| 00:00.17 | Esamynn | you're question was badly stated :P |
| 00:00.24 | Esamynn | s/you're/your/ |
| 00:01.36 | melin[] | meh - I cant find a proper guide to create a secure button frame |
| 00:05.08 | Tekkub | Industrial, I did answer your question... get spew and direct the thingy you want to see into it, it'll escape it all out nicely for you |
| 00:19.17 | melin[] | uhm.. how do I add that cooldown-timer texture to my button? |
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| 00:24.18 | Gngsk | melin[], want fish or fishing line? |
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| 00:25.05 | melin[] | I want the same as default UI uses |
| 00:25.25 | Gngsk | k, then you want to check out ActionButton.lua |
| 00:25.31 | melin[] | alright, thanks |
| 00:25.47 | NightHawkTheSane | http://p-userpic.livejournal.com/74273615/848687 i like this icon |
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| 00:33.15 | Shirik | My guild just came up with a great idea |
| 00:33.23 | Shirik | They should take the 19k mammoth and give it flight |
| 00:33.25 | Shirik | then charge 190k |
| 00:33.39 | Shirik | based on our research, lots of people would buy it |
| 00:33.48 | Shirik | great way to deflate the economy |
| 00:33.50 | Diao | a flying mammoth |
| 00:33.58 | Shirik | well we thought it would be more of a dumbo |
| 00:34.03 | Diao | lol |
| 00:34.54 | Zyndrome | rocketpropelled mammoth |
| 00:35.43 | Esamynn | Shirik: I take it your guild has done extensive research on this topic |
| 00:35.52 | Shirik | very extensive |
| 00:35.56 | Esamynn | judging from the fact that you got the price wrong :P |
| 00:35.56 | Shirik | We used /1 |
| 00:35.57 | Shirik | :D |
| 00:36.03 | Shirik | it's 18k99.99 |
| 00:36.15 | Esamynn | 20k actually, before discount |
| 00:36.20 | Shirik | o |
| 00:36.21 | Esamynn | 16k with exalted discount |
| 00:36.30 | Shirik | wut |
| 00:36.32 | Shirik | so what am I looking at? |
| 00:36.44 | [dRaCo] | and, as we all know, everything said in /1 is totally true. |
| 00:36.56 | Esamynn | absolutely |
| 00:37.01 | Shirik | yup |
| 00:37.34 | Shirik | But I see 19k |
| 00:37.36 | Shirik | so wtf happened |
| 00:37.42 | kd3 | oh wow |
| 00:37.44 | Esamynn | you're friendly, right? |
| 00:37.48 | Shirik | maybe |
| 00:37.51 | [dRaCo] | the dalaran guys don't like you |
| 00:37.55 | kd3 | maaven is win. "Nice. Photoshop that yourself?" |
| 00:38.02 | Shirik | linky! |
| 00:38.10 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14133728251&sid=1 |
| 00:38.23 | Esamynn | Shirik: let me rephrase that, you're reputation standing with the Kirin Tor is Friendly, correct? :P |
| 00:38.43 | Esamynn | s/you're/your/ |
| 00:39.33 | Shirik | Esamynn: Maybe |
| 00:40.15 | Esamynn | ~lart Shirik |
| 00:40.15 | purl | cuts off Shirik's head with a halberd that could have been a little bit sharper |
| 00:40.26 | Shirik | I thought there was only one discount level |
| 00:40.30 | Shirik | they have them at all reps now? |
| 00:40.30 | [dRaCo] | no |
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| 00:40.34 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 00:40.40 | kd3 | 5-20%, friendly-exalted |
| 00:40.52 | Esamynn | used to be just 10% at honored+, now 5% per level |
| 00:41.19 | Esamynn | ~failrik |
| 00:41.19 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
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| 00:53.21 | Cide | ~factinfo failrik |
| 00:53.21 | purl | failrik -- created by Cide <n=Cide@hus110a.bobbnet.com> at Mon Mar 17 17:36:58 2008 (295 days); it has been requested 13 times, last by Esamynn, 12m 2s ago. |
| 00:53.31 | Cide | 13 times? |
| 00:53.38 | Cide | the bot is broken |
| 00:53.41 | Esamynn | lol |
| 00:53.58 | Cide | it has to be |
| 00:54.00 | Cide | or am I delusional |
| 00:54.09 | Thunder_Child | you are broken Cide |
| 00:54.31 | Esamynn | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 00:54.31 | purl | breaks out the Hoover and sucks up Thunder_Child |
| 00:54.44 | Cide | Shirik: what do you think? |
| 00:54.48 | Shirik | 42 |
| 00:54.56 | Shirik | It was reset not too long ago |
| 00:55.01 | Cide | lua> 295/13 |
| 00:55.01 | lua_bot | Cide: 22.692307692308 |
| 00:55.04 | Cide | bah, too bad |
| 00:55.15 | Cide | well, let's make up for it slightly |
| 00:55.16 | Cide | ~failrik |
| 00:55.17 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 00:55.19 | Cide | 14! |
| 00:55.27 | Esamynn | ~lart Cid |
| 00:55.27 | purl | brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, Cid!" and lops off Cid's head |
| 00:55.32 | Cide | ha |
| 00:55.32 | Esamynn | sorry Cid |
| 00:55.36 | Esamynn | ~lart Cide |
| 00:55.36 | purl | calls Cide on the phone ... the lights are on but nobody's home |
| 00:55.40 | Cide | damn |
| 00:55.44 | Cide | couldn't /nick in time |
| 00:56.06 | Esamynn | oh, no Cid, just Cidan, he's the problem |
| 00:57.49 | Thunder_Child | ~dodge Esamynn |
| 00:57.50 | purl | at the last second thunder_child dodges out of the way of Esamynn's malicious and unprovoked attack. |
| 00:58.06 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: nothing malicious about it |
| 00:58.29 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, i got hoovered...thats very malicious |
| 00:59.33 | Esamynn | nah, nothing personal about it ;) |
| 01:00.03 | Thunder_Child | no one said something about personal |
| 01:00.13 | Thunder_Child | s/something/anything/ |
| 01:00.33 | Esamynn | if it was malicious, that you mean I held ill will towards you, which I do not |
| 01:00.59 | Esamynn | s/that you/that would/ |
| 01:01.00 | Thunder_Child | ill will can be impersonal. ill will simply means bad |
| 01:01.21 | Esamynn | just because I did something bad to you doesn't make it malicious |
| 01:01.34 | Thunder_Child | ~dict malicious |
| 01:01.57 | Thunder_Child | ~dict 1 malicious |
| 01:02.09 | Thunder_Child | ~dict ill will |
| 01:02.22 | Thunder_Child | ~dict 1 ill will |
| 01:02.48 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, yes, yes it does |
| 01:03.24 | Esamynn | no it doesn't |
| 01:03.33 | Esamynn | to be malicious I must INTEND to cause you harm |
| 01:03.52 | Thunder_Child | you larted me, that was intent |
| 01:04.25 | Esamynn | lart isn't necessarily harmful |
| 01:04.35 | Thunder_Child | that is interpretation |
| 01:04.56 | Esamynn | and intentions! 8) |
| 01:07.36 | Esamynn | have I split the hair fine enough? =D |
| 01:07.51 | Esamynn | s/fine/finely/ |
| 01:09.48 | Thunder_Child | no, i got distracted. you intened to lart me, lart has the posibilty of harm, ergo you did not care if i came to harm. indifference can be just as evil as hate. |
| 01:10.34 | WobWork | pft, you larted with full knowledge that it -might- be harmful |
| 01:10.43 | Thunder_Child | exactly |
| 01:10.45 | NightHawkTheSane | ~lart WobWork |
| 01:10.45 | purl | pries WobWork's back open with a screwdriver and flashes a new bootldr to WobWork |
| 01:11.02 | NightHawkTheSane | ooh... |
| 01:11.03 | Cairenn|afk | don't make me come over there and separate you two ... |
| 01:11.07 | Esamynn | still doesn't make it malicious |
| 01:11.14 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork$ rm -rf ./ |
| 01:11.28 | WobWork | NightHawkTheSane: Access Denied |
| 01:11.29 | Thunder_Child | by my stwisted logic Esamynn, yes it does |
| 01:11.32 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm... |
| 01:11.38 | Thunder_Child | s/stwisted/twisted. |
| 01:11.41 | Thunder_Child | :( |
| 01:11.46 | Esamynn | ~fail Thunder_Child |
| 01:11.47 | purl | Thunder_Child, you Fail! |
| 01:12.04 | Esamynn | now THAT was malicious :P |
| 01:12.10 | NightHawkTheSane | note to self: if you're going to try soloing a 5-man quest, don't do it while trying to reformat WobWork |
| 01:12.21 | WobWork | hehehe, unless you're a DK |
| 01:12.25 | Esamynn | lol |
| 01:12.31 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, but you had knowledge that fail cant harm |
| 01:12.56 | Esamynn | it's not in the knowledge, it's in the INTENTIONS |
| 01:13.02 | Esamynn | you cannot prove what my intentions were |
| 01:13.42 | Cairenn|afk | so help me, I'll turn this car around, and when your father hears ... |
| 01:13.48 | Thunder_Child | there is a common sense to it though, if you "intend" to harm me with a feather i would be very sceptical |
| 01:14.15 | Thunder_Child | is father with another woman? is that why he isnt in the car? |
| 01:14.54 | Esamynn | ~whaleslap Thunder_Child |
| 01:14.54 | purl | ACTION beats Thunder_Child upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 01:15.01 | kd3 | wait, wha? |
| 01:15.03 | Thunder_Child | ~whaledodge Esamynn |
| 01:15.04 | purl | 15 whales teleport around thunder_child, protecting thunder_child from any harm as a result of Esamynn's actions |
| 01:15.18 | Esamynn | ~whalenuke Thunder_Child |
| 01:15.19 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Thunder_Child with his mind powers. |
| 01:15.27 | Thunder_Child | ~whaleshield |
| 01:15.27 | purl | ACTION summons a rather dense leaden whale named Billy Bob to shield thunder_child from the blast. |
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| 01:15.36 | Esamynn | ~fishslap Thunder_Child |
| 01:15.37 | purl | ACTION slaps Thunder_Child up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 01:16.01 | Thunder_Child | ~surrender |
| 01:16.01 | purl | surrender is, like, when one ceases to fight back for what one believes in and gives up hope |
| 01:16.06 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* |
| 01:16.09 | Thunder_Child | ~surrender Thunder_Child |
| 01:16.15 | Esamynn | awww, how boring :( |
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| 01:16.23 | Arrowmaster | ~bunnyslap Thunder_Child |
| 01:16.24 | purl | ACTION smacks Thunder_Child with a fluffy bunny named Htogrek. |
| 01:16.32 | Thunder_Child | well i dont know any fish abilitys |
| 01:16.35 | Esamynn | lol |
| 01:16.39 | Thunder_Child | or bunny ones for that matter |
| 01:16.44 | Thunder_Child | ~cheeseslap Arrowmaster |
| 01:16.45 | purl | ACTION slaps Arrowmaster around with a slice of cheddar |
| 01:16.54 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: no matter, you're allowed to come back with whatever you like ;) |
| 01:17.05 | Esamynn | as long as it isn't ~lart and hasn't been used yet |
| 01:17.14 | Thunder_Child | ~nuke Esamynn |
| 01:17.15 | purl | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at Esamynn ... Bâ¢â¢M! |
| 01:17.16 | Arrowmaster | ~jarjarslap Thunder_Child |
| 01:17.17 | purl | ACTION ties Thunder_Child's ears to a lamppost |
| 01:17.32 | kd3 | o_O |
| 01:17.40 | Esamynn | sorry Thunder_Child, you already lost, don't embarrass yourself |
| 01:17.50 | Thunder_Child | to late Esamynn |
| 01:17.57 | Thunder_Child | ~burn Arrowmaster |
| 01:17.57 | purl | ACTION pours gasoline all over Arrowmaster, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze |
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| 01:18.41 | Esamynn | ~botsnack |
| 01:18.41 | purl | Esamynn: :) |
| 01:20.39 | Cairenn|afk | okay, I know what you guys need: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf8ywDU3_QM |
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| 01:22.42 | mikma | tem|work: hai |
| 01:22.59 | Tem | mikma, hai |
| 01:23.59 | mikma | tem: ok i read your comments now and understand what you mean. 5 points wasted :) |
| 01:24.29 | Tem | since the goal is to drop a rune strike on every swing, the better your gear gets, the worse that talent is |
| 01:24.38 | Tem | and even then, how often do you crit in tank gear? |
| 01:24.39 | mikma | that might be the reason why i don't see it proc often... |
| 01:25.15 | mikma | in other pve action it might, cause i usually spent some rp fr frost strike if rune strike aint up |
| 01:25.16 | Tem | *nod* |
| 01:25.28 | mikma | rp for* |
| 01:26.42 | mikma | now that means i can get death grip cd -10sec |
| 01:27.06 | WobWork | Tem: for Killing Machine? |
| 01:27.19 | Tem | WobWork, wha? |
| 01:27.25 | Tem | mikma, I would pick up |
| 01:27.26 | Tem | um |
| 01:27.29 | mikma | or... endless winter 2/2, "free" silence |
| 01:27.29 | WobWork | Oh, I assume that's what you were talking about |
| 01:27.30 | Tem | one sec |
| 01:27.39 | Tem | I don't remember what you didn't ahve |
| 01:27.48 | Tem | not endless winter either |
| 01:27.49 | Tem | oh |
| 01:27.54 | mikma | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=j0EZGxxthxdRhoVosx0g |
| 01:27.55 | Tem | the avoidance talent |
| 01:28.02 | Tem | frigid dreadplate |
| 01:28.03 | Tem | take it |
| 01:28.08 | WobWork | this^ |
| 01:28.14 | mikma | yeah but still got 2 left :) |
| 01:28.31 | mikma | so either death grip 2/2 or endless winter 2/2 |
| 01:28.36 | Tem | Morbidity |
| 01:28.50 | mikma | no, won't be touching that before they fix it :D |
| 01:28.59 | Tem | can't tank HoS, UP or Gothik without it imo |
| 01:29.39 | WobWork | mikma: chances are there will be a DK with morbidity in your raid =P |
| 01:29.51 | WobWork | so whether you take it or not because of the bug, is moot =P |
| 01:30.10 | mikma | lets see now. |
| 01:30.44 | mikma | dw hybrid, with 3/3 |
| 01:31.22 | mikma | unholy 'tank' with 3/3 .. |
| 01:32.00 | mikma | oh, finally he has gotten toughness and blade barrier :D |
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| 01:32.02 | WobWork | 3/3 whut? |
| 01:32.12 | mikma | Morbidity |
| 01:32.16 | Codayus | Hm, Virulence is a fairly strong talent. |
| 01:32.39 | WobWork | good for pvp |
| 01:32.41 | Codayus | Especially for frost. Spell misses are bad, mmkay? |
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| 01:33.11 | WobWork | hm, what badges are for the new relic? |
| 01:33.15 | WobWork | sigil |
| 01:33.26 | NightHawkTheSane | heroism i think? |
| 01:33.26 | mikma | heroic x30 ? |
| 01:33.31 | Codayus | I assume your planning on using oblit? In which case some points in subversion never go amiss. *shrug* |
| 01:33.31 | mikma | heroism* |
| 01:33.32 | WobWork | kk |
| 01:33.33 | NightHawkTheSane | x15 iirc |
| 01:33.37 | NightHawkTheSane | but i might be wrong |
| 01:34.32 | mikma | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/december/newsigils308.jpg |
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| 01:37.57 | Dashkal | Could someone confirm what I'm remembering regarding that def sigil? The "chance" is 100% and the duration 30s? |
| 01:38.30 | WobWork | that's what foxlit said |
| 01:39.24 | Dashkal | hmm, I'm 10 skill (not rating) points from the cap now, with that thing I could get the parry weapon and parry runeforge and skip the other new defense stuff entirely... pretty |
| 01:40.10 | mikma | i'm gonna stick with parry rune |
| 01:40.17 | WobWork | don't forget parry has DR |
| 01:40.25 | NightHawkTheSane | everything has DR |
| 01:40.30 | mikma | but most likely will get the sigil so i can change my +def clock to another |
| 01:40.48 | WobWork | mikma: The leatherworking one? |
| 01:40.56 | mikma | durable something |
| 01:40.57 | WobWork | I think that just has avoidance rather than def |
| 01:40.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Dashkal: well, if you have pieces that are better but have less def that you're not using, you can pick up the sigil and get away with it |
| 01:40.58 | mikma | i already have that |
| 01:41.11 | Dashkal | Hell, a couple def gems and the cloak enchant and I'm probably over 540 without the sigil. But it's either that sigil or a dps one and I'm not hurting for threat |
| 01:41.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Durable Nerubhide Cloak or something? yeah, its expertise+dodge |
| 01:41.47 | WobWork | I was thinking of getting that to replace my Wyrmrest cloak |
| 01:42.22 | Dashkal | I just want to get a defense cushion so I can upgrade into T7 without hurting myself |
| 01:42.39 | mikma | wobwork: |
| 01:42.41 | mikma | <0339> <Dashkal> hmm, I' |
| 01:42.44 | mikma | whops :D |
| 01:42.48 | mikma | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=43565 |
| 01:43.11 | WobWork | it's got some nice stats |
| 01:43.11 | mikma | i already got that, i use it with dps-gear atm :P |
| 01:43.15 | Dashkal | ooo, _that's_ a pretty cape |
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| 01:43.27 | WobWork | gluck getting the chitin if you've already done Icecrown =) |
| 01:43.42 | WobWork | I should have farmed the chitin before I phased out of the questline |
| 01:43.51 | mikma | which part? |
| 01:43.58 | mikma | tell me fast so i don't do the mistake ;D |
| 01:44.00 | WobWork | the first one at the argent camp |
| 01:44.11 | WobWork | you basically run around killing them, with npc help |
| 01:44.19 | WobWork | so basically you run around tagging the mobs |
| 01:44.25 | WobWork | and let the npcs kill them for you =P |
| 01:44.29 | mikma | kek |
| 01:44.38 | mikma | good. i'll remember to tell my friend about that :P |
| 01:44.43 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: its not so hard to get them from scourgeholme, really |
| 01:44.45 | WobWork | just like how you should farm the heavy frostweave bandage book |
| 01:44.48 | mikma | we did some massive AoE grinding in storm peaks last night |
| 01:44.50 | NightHawkTheSane | thats where i get mine when i need it |
| 01:45.02 | mikma | there's this cave that spawns almost right after we get it cleared + skinned |
| 01:45.05 | WobWork | NightHawkTheSane: yeah, but why do the work if you can get the game to do it for you =) |
| 01:45.22 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: because my skinner's already done all the quests in northrend. :p |
| 01:45.29 | WobWork | NightHawkTheSane: yeah =( |
| 01:45.41 | WobWork | hm, is the chitin only from skinning? |
| 01:45.45 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 01:45.47 | WobWork | I thought it dropped too |
| 01:45.52 | NightHawkTheSane | not that i'm aware |
| 01:45.52 | mikma | i just bought all the chitins from ah :D |
| 01:46.00 | WobWork | damn =) |
| 01:46.48 | mikma | wobwork: do you actually use Unbreakable Armor? |
| 01:47.16 | WobWork | yep |
| 01:47.26 | mikma | have you noticed it helping? :) |
| 01:47.42 | mikma | i mean, 1 frost armor for minor boosts |
| 01:47.58 | mikma | i'd still use IBF over that |
| 01:48.13 | mikma | yeah yeah they can be used together, but not like frost rune is up when you need it lol |
| 01:48.27 | WobWork | 25% armour |
| 01:48.30 | WobWork | plus 10% parry |
| 01:48.36 | mikma | 5% |
| 01:48.40 | WobWork | glyphed |
| 01:48.49 | mikma | so -str |
| 01:48.51 | WobWork | yeh |
| 01:49.30 | Tem | that's getting nerfed |
| 01:49.35 | mikma | Just macro a blood tap right into it. Problem solved. |
| 01:49.38 | mikma | rofl |
| 01:49.44 | mikma | blood tap + unbreakable armor |
| 01:49.46 | mikma | brilliant |
| 01:49.48 | Tem | to +more armor and no more +parry |
| 01:50.11 | WobWork | orly? |
| 01:50.15 | WobWork | hm |
| 01:50.17 | mikma | yarly |
| 01:50.27 | mikma | Glyph of Unbreakable Armor - Unbreakable Armor grants an additional 15% armor. (Old - Unbreakable Armor grants an additional 5% parry chance but no longer increases your Strength.) |
| 01:50.55 | WobWork | so 40% armor |
| 01:50.59 | mikma | huuuge |
| 01:51.09 | mikma | with the new and improved frost presence |
| 01:51.56 | Industrial | Anyone regularly sell deviate fish? what do they sell for |
| 01:51.59 | Industrial | im about to level ym fishing |
| 01:52.00 | Industrial | :P |
| 01:52.18 | Codayus | Oh, re discussion of parry runes - yes, everything has DR, but parry has VASTLY worse DR; not comparable. However current testing indicated neither the parry nor the def runeforge are subject to DR. |
| 01:52.57 | Dashkal | Parry and Def runeforges provide direct % and skill improvements, not rating |
| 01:53.11 | Tem | only rating is subject to DR |
| 01:53.53 | Dashkal | Exactly. The rate at which rating converts to % decays. They don't decay the % directly |
| 01:53.54 | WobWork | by vastly worse DR, you mean a larger diminishing return compared to say, dodge? |
| 01:54.43 | mikma | wobwork: hai there. your dk has skinning? |
| 01:54.48 | WobWork | does the weapon offer parry rating? |
| 01:54.52 | WobWork | mikma: nyet |
| 01:54.53 | Codayus | Yep. Except...defense rating doesn't have DR either. The DR comes on each of the stats DR converts into, so I would expect def skill to have the same DR as def rating, since it all turns into ratings eventually. *shrug* It doesn't though, so no use arguing about logic. :-) |
| 01:54.57 | Dashkal | The weapon offers rating, yes. |
| 01:54.57 | WobWork | mining/herbins |
| 01:55.02 | Dashkal | So it'll be subject to the DR |
| 01:55.04 | mikma | wobwork: fail. |
| 01:55.23 | WobWork | mikma: meh, I make more money from herbing and mining than I would from skinning |
| 01:55.57 | Codayus | WobWork: Parry has a lower cap, so a MUCH more aggressive DR curve. Plus the parry you get from str -> parry conversion is included, so basically, parry for DKs is *terribad*. Much worse than for warriors, for example. |
| 01:56.07 | WobWork | half an hour of idle herbing in Zuldrak nets me a few hundred gold |
| 01:56.19 | Codayus | The parry runeforge enchant, of course, is still awesome. |
| 01:56.19 | mikma | wobwork: wrooong! :I |
| 01:56.31 | WobWork | Codayus: so better to go for dodge for avoidance once def capped |
| 01:56.47 | Dashkal | Codayus: Defense rating has DR, and it's less punative than the DR on Parry rating. Defense skill converts directly into dodge % and parry %. It doesn't get hit a second time. (Someone correct me if I misunderstood the math?) The thing is defense converts into parry and dodge at a pretty low rate. |
| 01:57.17 | Codayus | For a DK, dodge is a bit better than def, yes. Parry isn't actually worthless, but you'd never stack it. |
| 01:57.51 | WobWork | well dodge is better than def cause the conversion from def to dodge is, as Dashkal pointed out, very low |
| 01:58.06 | Dashkal | Defense's boon is that it's in one stat Resilience (anti-crit, not less damage), dodge, and parry all at once |
| 01:58.16 | Codayus | Dashkal: Yes, I believe you did. The math is: Convert def into parry/miss/dodge, then apply a DR curve to each component seperately. DKs get less avoidance from def than warriors, because we have more parry, thus higher DR on 1/3 of def. |
| 01:58.30 | WobWork | what's the parry cap? |
| 01:58.45 | WobWork | or the point where it's not worth getting more =P |
| 01:58.52 | Dashkal | Codayus: source on that one? Cause that would mean defense rating converts directly into parry rating, which would make things that add defense _skill_ irelevant |
| 01:58.57 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 01:58.58 | purl | ~pong |
| 02:00.06 | frop | ~pong |
| 02:00.06 | purl | ~ping |
| 02:00.11 | Codayus | WobWork: Complex, but like ~40 something %. The curve is asymtotic, of course. So parry is ALWAYS good, but ALWAYS worse than dodge. (Don't forget, you gain less parry % per rating than dodge anyhow. Parry is ALWAYS been worse than dodge.) |
| 02:00.40 | Dashkal | The dodge and parry diminishing returns are implemented in the conversion from rating to percentage. The percentage isn't calculated by a static factor then diminished. |
| 02:01.04 | Codayus | WobWork: Right, 47.003525% for parry, 88.129021% for dodge. |
| 02:01.05 | WobWork | I heard somewhere that you should maintain similar parry and dodge levels in order to reduce the effects of DR |
| 02:01.54 | Codayus | WobWork: Yeah, but no. You should, but 1) Parry is worse than dodge, so "similar" means "more dodge than parry anyhow", and you get bonus parry just for being a DK, so the crossover point is insanely out of reach. |
| 02:01.57 | Corrodias | diminishing returns? on dodge? |
| 02:02.23 | WobWork | we get DK parry? |
| 02:03.34 | NightHawkTheSane | str->parry |
| 02:03.44 | Codayus | Dashkal: Right, defense rating does convert into parry rating, and THEN gets the parry DR applied. There is no def DR. Def skill is apparently coverted into parry skill, and has no DR applied. It's weird. |
| 02:03.46 | WobWork | oh point |
| 02:04.12 | WobWork | ... that's a bit confusing |
| 02:04.17 | Dashkal | Codayus: where was that discussed? I'l like to poke holes in the math |
| 02:04.24 | Codayus | http://www.tankspot.com/forums/f63/40003-diminishing-returns-avoidance.html |
| 02:04.34 | Codayus | And elsewhere on tankspot, and on EJ. That's a good summary. |
| 02:04.35 | Dashkal | Speaking as a programmer, that seems like completely screwed way to code it |
| 02:05.50 | Codayus | Yeah, probably. |
| 02:07.16 | Codayus | Note that where it says "example 1 - dodge" it says to convert all def rating to skill, all def skill to dodge, all dodge rating to dodge, all agility to dodge, sum that, apply DR, add in your base dodge, and thats your effective dodge. |
| 02:07.43 | Dashkal | reading that |
| 02:07.55 | Dashkal | which is different from converting defense skill back to its rating to convert over to dodge rating |
| 02:08.17 | Codayus | But that's not quite right, because you need to ignore def skill thats added directly via, for example, the runeforge enchant. (There was no way to get def skill prior to 3.0.8 since DR has been added.) |
| 02:08.39 | WobWork | thank god for RatingsBuster |
| 02:09.02 | AnduinLothar | 600 queue whee |
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| 02:09.16 | Dashkal | huh? it still makes sense. With your statement that the Def Rating -> Defense formula has no diminish returns, there's no problem |
| 02:09.28 | WobWork | oo http://www.tankspot.com/forums/f14/42074-balancing-avoidance-ratings.html |
| 02:09.31 | WobWork | I like this post |
| 02:09.45 | Codayus | Def rating HAS DR. Def skill does NOT have DR. |
| 02:09.55 | Dashkal | you still convert to skill |
| 02:10.05 | Dashkal | just add the 25 from the rune |
| 02:10.18 | WobWork | So, in summary, the titansteel defense weapon is better than the titansteel parry weapon |
| 02:10.22 | WobWork | generally |
| 02:10.46 | Codayus | Ah, but no. In step 1b the "defense skill" excludes the def from the runeforge. You'd add the dodge from the runeforge in after step 4. |
| 02:10.55 | WobWork | if, however, it were a titansteel -dodge- weapon, it might be worth switching |
| 02:11.14 | Codayus | WobWork: The titansteel parry weapon is absolute, utter, crap. A titansteel dodge weapon would be excellent for def capped DKs. |
| 02:11.19 | Dashkal | Codayus: how'd you make that jump? |
| 02:11.36 | WobWork | cause the defense skills do not suffer from DR |
| 02:11.39 | Codayus | Dashkal: The def runeforge enchant is not subject to DR. |
| 02:11.41 | WobWork | only thr rating |
| 02:11.54 | Dashkal | if parry is as useless as everybody claims, I'm gonna just forgo both of them and keep tanking in my dps weapon |
| 02:12.01 | WobWork | hehe |
| 02:12.12 | WobWork | I'm using the viking boat sword from CoS |
| 02:12.15 | WobWork | for tanking |
| 02:12.17 | Dashkal | Codayus: there's two diminish passes on defense. Is it immune to both? If so, source? |
| 02:12.22 | Codayus | Dashkal: NO> |
| 02:12.38 | WobWork | but I also have the Ebon knights dps two hander |
| 02:12.39 | Codayus | There is ONE DR pass, and it skips anything that adds skill or a flat %. |
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| 02:12.54 | WobWork | which is so not a DK weapon =( |
| 02:12.58 | Dashkal | That page says otherwise. There's the DR on Defense Rating -> Defense skill, then the one on Dodge itself |
| 02:13.31 | Codayus | Dashkal: It doesn't say either way; it was written before you could GET defense skill. |
| 02:13.41 | Codayus | In 3.0.8, you can. And hey, it has no DR. |
| 02:14.37 | Dashkal | ok, this really doesn't make any sense. The only way for your position of the pure skill forge to have skipped DR entirely is if it provides a completely different stat that's calculated apart |
| 02:14.39 | Codayus | DR is applied to dodge you get from: Defense rating, dodge rating, and agility. It is not applied to dodge you get from: Base dodge, dodge skill, dodge % enchants, defense skill, dodge talents. |
| 02:14.49 | Codayus | Dashkal: O |
| 02:15.10 | Codayus | I'm not saying whether it makes sense or not, I'm saying it DOES NOT HAVE DR. Go to PTR, test for yourself. |
| 02:15.39 | Dashkal | I'm saying either there's an error in someone's math or there's some extra stats we aren't being shown |
| 02:16.03 | Dashkal | Having never been taught statistics (and lacking the time to learn them) I don't have the ability to test it myself |
| 02:16.44 | Olorin | if an item shows socket bonus, is that per gem socketed or just one? |
| 02:16.59 | WobWork | for the whole set of sockets |
| 02:17.06 | Dashkal | Olorin: If you put gems that match the colors (BS sockets don't count) you get the bonus |
| 02:17.09 | WobWork | ie fill them in with the correct colour, and get the bonus |
| 02:17.20 | Olorin | ah, thanks kindly |
| 02:17.55 | Dashkal | ok, home time |
| 02:27.16 | procule | bonjour |
| 02:27.30 | procule | comment ca va ? |
| 02:29.47 | Kaso | ce va bien, et tu? |
| 02:30.21 | procule | (et toi) |
| 02:30.26 | Kaso | damn |
| 02:30.28 | procule | ca rock |
| 02:30.29 | Kaso | i was close! |
| 02:30.34 | procule | :) |
| 02:30.41 | procule | i just passed out |
| 02:30.49 | procule | back again |
| 02:31.10 | procule | wonder if my code is working |
| 02:31.16 | procule | my server is full |
| 02:31.34 | procule | like my uncle said |
| 02:31.40 | Kaso | lvl 1 alts on many servers for development, thats what i do |
| 02:31.46 | procule | "when the server's full, make coffee" |
| 02:31.55 | procule | so i'm making coffee |
| 02:32.12 | kd3 | heh. sweet |
| 02:32.16 | kd3 | didn't plan this at all |
| 02:32.21 | kd3 | exactly 1k songs on my ipod right now |
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| 02:32.52 | procule | i'm always on the same "channel" |
| 02:32.53 | Sixen | orly |
| 02:33.01 | Duman | hai |
| 02:33.05 | procule | 80's on winamp |
| 02:33.19 | procule | 1400min and still running ! |
| 02:37.11 | kd3 | har: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14135708226&pageNo=1&sid=1#18 |
| 02:38.04 | Duman | hahhaa |
| 02:38.12 | Sixen | DOODAD_ULR_DOOR_TITAN02_PLOX lul. |
| 02:39.55 | melin[] | why wont my button do anything?: HSButton:SetAttribute("type1", "item"); HSButton:SetAttribute("item1", "Hearthstone") |
| 02:40.59 | melin[] | the button is this: HSButton = CreateFrame("button", "SecureActionButtonTemplate", Minimap) |
| 02:41.50 | melin[] | do I need to register it for clicks aswell? |
| 02:42.43 | Thunder_Child | mmm...onion and banana smoothy |
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| 02:42.50 | Olorin | procule ya sound like one of them escort quests where npc keeps passing out, maybee we need to drench ya in water |
| 02:44.34 | melin[] | .. anyone? :P |
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| 02:46.51 | procule | lol |
| 02:46.53 | procule | well |
| 02:47.25 | procule | i passed out, i'm trying to dose coffee/beer |
| 02:47.45 | procule | the beer side was too much i think |
| 02:48.27 | Olorin | sounds like it, thats why i gave up drinking, was like being shot by tranqualizer dart |
| 02:48.59 | procule | now it's coffee for the night |
| 02:49.09 | procule | and 80's music |
| 02:49.14 | procule | ;) |
| 02:50.51 | Olorin | ok but please, leave the kareokee machine alone |
| 02:51.05 | procule | haha ok |
| 02:51.34 | NightHawkTheSane | "karaoke" |
| 02:51.44 | procule | the xml machine will rock on tho |
| 02:52.56 | Olorin | pardon me... I know I need a spell/grammer checker |
| 02:56.13 | procule | actually, karaoke is fun |
| 02:56.25 | procule | IMO |
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| 03:01.29 | Corrodias | the way most people pronounce it, you'd think it was kerioki |
| 03:01.50 | procule | oh but i'm french |
| 03:02.16 | procule | (the answer to all odd question) |
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| 03:06.44 | procule | ok now, why's that button not showing ! |
| 03:07.53 | Cairenn|afk | Olorin: don't feel bad, I always have to look that one up, too |
| 03:08.08 | Cairenn|afk | I can never spell it correctly without a dictionary |
| 03:09.10 | Tekkub | someone needs to tell our chineese buffet that leaving the TVs on a stupid "reality" show about overly-fat people working out and wearing clothes intentionally too small to make them look fatter... at a restaurant... bad idea |
| 03:09.31 | Tekkub | even worse, the show is in 4:3 but they stretch it onto their bigg-ass widescreen TVs |
| 03:09.52 | procule | lol |
| 03:12.50 | Olorin | must be genetic Cairenn, my sister has some wierd verbal sayings like parkcar instead of carpark, and hyperdemic nurdle etc.. |
| 03:13.42 | WobWork | Hypodermic Nurgle |
| 03:14.46 | Cairenn|afk | oh, I get my mords wixed all the time |
| 03:14.51 | procule | what actually "backdrop" means ? |
| 03:15.04 | procule | (i'm french) |
| 03:15.05 | Olorin | I think it was brought on by a traumatic event in childhood, such as monkey at the zoo that stole her sunglasses , she was so upset, was made worse by the monkey who then bounded around its cage wearing them and showing it to all its mates like 'im so cool' |
| 03:15.18 | Cairenn|afk | procule: the scenery behind the actors on a stage (typically) |
| 03:15.49 | procule | like, the screen ? |
| 03:15.55 | Cairenn|afk | aye |
| 03:16.06 | procule | so it's almost everywhere in a script |
| 03:17.29 | Cairenn|afk | oh, and if you keep using "I'm French", people are likely to get upset with you - we have a very large number of people in here for whom English is not their first language .... just ask, no qualification necessary :p |
| 03:17.44 | procule | lol ok |
| 03:17.59 | procule | but really, i have no idea what "backdrop" means |
| 03:18.17 | Cairenn|afk | this is an international channel - making issue of the fact you aren't English is really a case of "yeah, so?" |
| 03:18.19 | Arrowmaster | but hes french, its only natural to surender |
| 03:18.21 | End | it's the stuff that goes "behind" |
| 03:18.26 | Cairenn|afk | Arrowmaster! |
| 03:18.31 | procule | Arrowmaster got it lol |
| 03:18.42 | NightHawkTheSane | ~Arrowmaster++ |
| 03:18.42 | procule | but i'm AMERICAN french |
| 03:18.52 | procule | we fought ;) |
| 03:19.00 | NightHawkTheSane | so.. you'll surrender but be a jackass about it? >.> |
| 03:19.20 | Olorin | hey im british english but that doesnt mean I dont have my own strange dialect |
| 03:19.22 | procule | Juno beach FTW |
| 03:19.23 | procule | :) |
| 03:20.00 | procule | well |
| 03:20.26 | procule | so I want a button to appear, i have to put it in a backdrop container ? |
| 03:20.56 | mikma | nighthawkthesane: HAHAHAHA |
| 03:21.01 | mikma | Evil! EVIL! |
| 03:21.22 | procule | mikma: have you sleep yet ? ;) |
| 03:21.28 | procule | slept* |
| 03:22.02 | Olorin | procule no, if having trouble with stuff appearing make sure its got set width and height and set point |
| 03:22.14 | mikma | procule: yes i did, 10h or so |
| 03:22.35 | procule | that is good |
| 03:23.04 | procule | Olorin: ok, if those things are not set it goes offscreen ? |
| 03:23.51 | Olorin | hmm no, i thnik they are prerequisites to being shown at all, but anyone feel free to correct my assumptions |
| 03:24.37 | procule | what about the <Anchor point="CENTER"> ? |
| 03:24.39 | Olorin | but if your using templates for a frame it could be inherited |
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| 03:25.12 | Olorin | ack xml... <runs> ive done all my stuff in pure Lua |
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| 03:25.50 | procule | done too... i'm truying in xml now |
| 03:25.53 | procule | trying* |
| 03:26.03 | kmcguire | Guys. I know I have said this before. I am not looking for an answer, but honestly there has to be bugs in the WOW lua interpretor. |
| 03:26.23 | kmcguire | I have seen on multiple occasions some very weird flow control problems. |
| 03:26.40 | kmcguire | And returns from functions jumping back into the middle of functions.. =\ |
| 03:26.41 | procule | actually, XML seems easier |
| 03:28.06 | Olorin | mostly down to preference procule, I just prefer to be able to base frame creations on variables for dimensions which imo is much easier in lua |
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| 03:31.23 | procule | i'm quite new to all this, lua is really too simple i think |
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| 03:32.02 | procule | blizzard should have used perl |
| 03:32.04 | procule | :) |
| 03:32.17 | WobWork | yeah |
| 03:32.22 | WobWork | then people could write addons once |
| 03:32.26 | WobWork | but never be able to upkeep it |
| 03:32.43 | WobWork | Perl is such a write once read never language =P |
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| 03:33.29 | procule | whys that ? |
| 03:33.39 | Tekkub | hehe, WOM FTFW! |
| 03:33.42 | procule | perl is great |
| 03:34.04 | procule | slow... but great |
| 03:34.14 | Tekkub | the only thing perl's got over lua is the regexps |
| 03:34.21 | Tekkub | lua's are.... irregular |
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| 03:35.57 | fcrick | ahh here we are |
| 03:36.04 | procule | we do |
| 03:36.10 | fcrick | is there an active 'ui authors guild' right now? |
| 03:36.30 | fcrick | i tried looking for the ones on wowwiki but no one was online |
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| 03:36.50 | fcrick | also - anyone know the name of the Calendar frame is or what source file its in? |
| 03:36.52 | Cairenn|afk | not really, not on the live servers |
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| 03:37.18 | Cairenn|afk | most of the time if someone needs something tested, they hop in here first and ask someone else to log into it, otherwise ... |
| 03:37.25 | Cairenn|afk | PTRs tend to have author guilds |
| 03:37.37 | Tekkub | we need a live guild |
| 03:37.41 | NightHawkTheSane | http://wowcompares.com if you can't find it from here, no one can help you |
| 03:37.51 | Cairenn|afk | the guilds are there, people just need to use them :p |
| 03:37.57 | Tekkub | <I write addons> |
| 03:38.16 | procule | can someone tell me why my first button doesn't show up? (based on a tutorial): http://www.pastey.net/105726 |
| 03:38.17 | fcrick | Cairenn|afk: cool to see you're still kicking after all these years |
| 03:38.18 | Tekkub | we need a live guild that people actively play on |
| 03:38.26 | kmcguire | Ok, my problem was not a bug in the WOW lua interpreter.. but that does not dismiss the other strange events.. Although my credibility seems smashed now. |
| 03:38.27 | Cairenn|afk | fcrick: I'm still around ;) |
| 03:38.32 | Cairenn|afk | Tekkub: ^^ |
| 03:38.39 | fcrick | i remember when wowinterface seemed kinda ghetto hehe |
| 03:38.40 | NightHawkTheSane | fcrick: yeah, she's an old one, amazing she hasn't croaked yet. *fleeeeee* |
| 03:38.41 | Aiiane | Tekkub: <I code your addons> |
| 03:38.55 | fcrick | or empty, at least |
| 03:39.01 | Tekkub | <AFK making addons> |
| 03:39.18 | Cairenn|afk | ~lart NightHawkTheSane |
| 03:39.18 | purl | hauls NightHawkTheSane up by the scruff of the neck and spanks him until he waddles |
| 03:39.22 | Aiiane | <brb reloading ui> |
| 03:39.29 | fcrick | my poor addon was make redundant by Auctioneer :( |
| 03:39.32 | Cairenn|afk | oh how appropriate from me! |
| 03:39.35 | NightHawkTheSane | haha |
| 03:39.56 | Dewin | I like that onte |
| 03:40.13 | Tekkub | agreed |
| 03:40.19 | fcrick | no one knows what the calendar is called? |
| 03:40.40 | Dewin | only problem with trying to lump all addon authors in a regularly-playing guild, I'd think... |
| 03:40.42 | Thunder_Child | no Cairenn|afk, no |
| 03:40.43 | Tain | It just occured to me that there's very few people left who'd even understand why the guild on Draka is called <RegisterForSave> |
| 03:40.48 | fcrick | i doubt its the SparkleFrame... |
| 03:40.54 | Cairenn|afk | Tain: indeed |
| 03:40.56 | Dewin | is that developers tend to have more... differences of opinion... than normal people ;) |
| 03:41.03 | Hirsute | fcrick: Not off the top of my head. You could try poking around at http://wowcompares.com. |
| 03:41.07 | fcrick | Tain: hehe yeah hehe |
| 03:41.31 | Tain | Are we just old, Cairenn? Have we been depreciated? |
| 03:41.43 | fcrick | only deprecated |
| 03:41.43 | Seerah | I stopped doing a /who on Draka for that guild :P |
| 03:42.07 | Cairenn|afk | if you want in the guild, all you have to do is pop on here and ask someone for an invite :p |
| 03:42.21 | Seerah | I may have said something once... I forget :) |
| 03:42.21 | Cairenn|afk | the guilds are there, people just need to use them :p |
| 03:42.46 | Seerah | I have two tester toons on different servers. Draka one is Onetwothree and other server is Labrat :D |
| 03:42.52 | Cairenn|afk | Thunder_Child: why no? :( |
| 03:43.04 | fcrick | ahh maybe i'll hop on Draka |
| 03:43.26 | Dewin | if I felt like working on Progression again I might do that |
| 03:43.34 | Thunder_Child | be cause it is not yet time for it Cairenn|afk. when it is the right time, you will know |
| 03:43.46 | Cairenn|afk | poo, you're no fun |
| 03:43.49 | NightHawkTheSane | it's always the right time for whips |
| 03:44.08 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane, at a birth? |
| 03:44.14 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane, funeral? |
| 03:44.16 | Shirik|Ecole | what is a manacle? |
| 03:44.22 | NightHawkTheSane | start em young! |
| 03:44.27 | fcrick | ok i'm on Draka|Alliance |
| 03:44.29 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, like handcufs |
| 03:44.32 | Cairenn|afk | Shirik|Ecole: o.O |
| 03:44.36 | fcrick | anyone wanna invite me? name is 'fcrick' :) |
| 03:44.38 | Cairenn|afk | O.o |
| 03:44.39 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, just older and larger |
| 03:44.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik|Ecole: o_0 |
| 03:44.46 | Shirik|Ecole | what did I do... |
| 03:44.48 | Aiiane | Cairenn, I think shirik needs "educating" :D |
| 03:44.55 | Thunder_Child | ~dict manacle |
| 03:44.55 | Shirik|Ecole | did I say something bad :/ |
| 03:45.01 | NightHawkTheSane | you have the strangest gaps in your knowledge, Shirik |
| 03:45.15 | Shirik|Ecole | we call them handcuffs |
| 03:45.21 | Cairenn|afk | fcrick: logging in |
| 03:45.31 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, it's an english/old school way of saying it |
| 03:45.34 | Cairenn|afk | no, there is a difference between manacles & handcuffs |
| 03:45.38 | fcrick | manacles are typically much wider than handcuffs i think |
| 03:45.44 | Cairenn|afk | ^^ |
| 03:45.48 | Seerah | they are wider, but smaller than shackles |
| 03:45.51 | Shirik|Ecole | why would you want then wider? |
| 03:45.56 | Thunder_Child | again, older |
| 03:46.02 | Thunder_Child | the metal wasnt as refined |
| 03:46.08 | Cairenn|afk | fcrick: which side? ally or horde? |
| 03:46.08 | Thunder_Child | smaller was weaker |
| 03:46.20 | Thunder_Child | think iron |
| 03:46.30 | Cairenn|afk | Shirik|Ecole: wider means less likely to cause injury |
| 03:46.46 | Seerah | two half circles held together with pins/screws |
| 03:46.52 | fcrick | yeah metals were a lot more brittle back then |
| 03:46.54 | Cairenn|afk | frequently made with leather, too |
| 03:46.58 | procule | ~dict shagy |
| 03:47.01 | Shirik|Ecole | (22:44:56) (NightHawkTheSane) you have the strangest gaps in your knowledge, Shirik |
| 03:47.03 | Shirik|Ecole | this is so true |
| 03:47.13 | Cairenn|afk | fcrick: which side? ally or horde? |
| 03:47.15 | Seerah | :D |
| 03:47.15 | fcrick | ally |
| 03:47.36 | Seerah | oh oh! me too! |
| 03:47.42 | Seerah | onetwothree (gotta log) |
| 03:47.48 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, all the newbs are ally ;) |
| 03:48.12 | Seerah | psh |
| 03:48.22 | Cairenn|afk | "sticks and stones may break my bones, but whips and chains excite me" |
| 03:48.32 | Shirik|Ecole | ugh |
| 03:48.34 | Shirik|Ecole | MA_412_02DB MWF 09:15AM 10:15AM DB |
| 03:48.39 | Shirik|Ecole | why |
| 03:48.41 | Shirik|Ecole | whyyyyyy |
| 03:48.46 | Shirik|Ecole | nobody wants to get up that early :( |
| 03:49.09 | Shirik|Ecole | what am I supposed to do for the rest of the day |
| 03:49.20 | NightHawkTheSane | catch up on sleep |
| 03:49.31 | Shirik|Ecole | you can't go back to sleep after that |
| 03:49.33 | procule | kill bunnies |
| 03:51.19 | Thunder_Child | play wow and work on the wowi dl'er |
| 03:51.28 | Shirik|Ecole | working on it |
| 03:51.37 | Shirik|Ecole | though my goal was to have it done by today |
| 03:51.40 | Shirik|Ecole | not going to happen |
| 03:51.41 | Cairenn|afk | okay guys, anyone else want an invite to the guild(s) on Draka? |
| 03:52.10 | Shirik|Ecole | me! |
| 03:52.13 | Shirik|Ecole | But I can't get on right now |
| 03:52.26 | Cairenn|afk | poke me next time we're both awake :p |
| 03:52.41 | Shirik|Ecole | that shouldn't be too hard considering neither of us sleep |
| 03:52.48 | Seerah | can officers invite/promote, Cairenn? |
| 03:52.59 | Cairenn|afk | Seerah: yes |
| 03:53.05 | Seerah | then I can get it, too, Shirik |
| 03:53.26 | Cairenn|afk | occifers have all controls, other than making other occifers |
| 03:55.32 | Cairenn|afk | (and yes, the mis-spelling was deliberate :p ) |
| 03:56.21 | Shirik|Ecole | wait |
| 03:56.23 | Shirik|Ecole | Draka? |
| 03:56.27 | Shirik|Ecole | what is Draka? |
| 03:56.29 | Shirik|Ecole | that's not PTR |
| 03:56.31 | Cairenn|afk | no |
| 03:56.34 | Cairenn|afk | that's live |
| 03:56.47 | Shirik|Ecole | we have a guild on live? |
| 03:57.00 | Cairenn|afk | those were the first author guilds set up, but no one ever uses them |
| 03:57.12 | Cairenn|afk | they've been in place basically forever :p |
| 03:57.16 | Shirik|Ecole | well then I can go there! |
| 03:57.24 | Shirik|Ecole | I think I used to have a char there |
| 03:57.44 | Cairenn|afk | which side, ally or horde? we have guilds on both sides |
| 03:57.59 | WobWork | good ol RegisterForSave |
| 03:58.08 | procule | load for demand ? |
| 03:58.20 | Cairenn|afk | loadondemand |
| 03:58.24 | procule | oh |
| 03:58.24 | fcrick | we have members who haven't been online for 3 years hehe |
| 03:58.30 | Cairenn|afk | heh, no doubt |
| 03:58.51 | Cairenn|afk | Shirik|Ecole: which side, and char name? |
| 03:59.50 | fcrick | Cairenn|afk: hop in horde i'm 'Igoro' |
| 03:59.55 | Shirik|Ecole | Kimina, Alliance; Shirik, Horde |
| 04:00.05 | Shirik|Ecole | No I won't make this easy for you |
| 04:00.14 | Cairenn|afk | horde side first then, please - since I just logged into there for igor |
| 04:00.20 | Shirik|Ecole | crap |
| 04:00.24 | Shirik|Ecole | after I log in |
| 04:00.24 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |
| 04:00.27 | Cairenn|afk | inviter is Nneriac |
| 04:01.44 | Aiiane | !! she's a sneaky one, with her backwards names |
| 04:01.48 | Cairenn|afk | heh |
| 04:02.19 | Cairenn|afk | everyone (that played it) think it's a mis-spelled Nariak (from EQ days) |
| 04:04.20 | Shirik|Ecole | Cairenn|afk, can you see what I'm saying in guild? |
| 04:04.37 | Cairenn|afk | I saw you say "rawr" then "hmm, lag" then "school doesn't like wow" |
| 04:05.11 | Cairenn|afk | then I logged out because I'm switching sides to guild your other |
| 04:05.12 | Shirik|Ecole | I think my UI is broke |
| 04:05.12 | Shirik|Ecole | I can't see any guild messages |
| 04:05.12 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |
| 04:05.12 | Cairenn|afk | heh |
| 04:05.21 | Cairenn|afk | well, you're guilded on horde side, waiting for you on ally now |
| 04:05.37 | Shirik|Ecole | I might not do any work tonight |
| 04:05.42 | Cairenn|afk | heh |
| 04:05.46 | Shirik|Ecole | just go home and have some ice cream |
| 04:05.50 | procule | Shirik: je te souhaite la bonne année ! |
| 04:05.58 | Cairenn|afk | ice cream == good! |
| 04:06.28 | WobWork | ~x fr en je te souhaite la bonne année ! |
| 04:06.39 | WobWork | happy new year? =) |
| 04:06.43 | procule | yes :) |
| 04:06.51 | Cairenn|afk | I can see your text, Shirik, but no idea if you see mine |
| 04:06.58 | WobWork | gong xi fa cai! |
| 04:06.58 | Shirik|Ecole | I just reloaded UI |
| 04:07.00 | Cairenn|afk | anyway, you're successfully guilded on both sides now |
| 04:07.06 | Sixen | ~irc |
| 04:07.07 | purl | "Welcome to IRC: where the men are boys, the women are boys, and 14-year-old girls are FBI agents." |
| 04:07.19 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah something's really broke |
| 04:07.20 | Shirik|Ecole | Message: Error: Original call failed after running hooks for: ChatFrame_OnEvent |
| 04:07.20 | Shirik|Ecole | ..\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua line 2218: |
| 04:07.20 | Shirik|Ecole | bad argument #1 to 'strsub' (string expected, got nil) |
| 04:07.21 | Shirik|Ecole | yay |
| 04:07.24 | Cairenn|afk | logging back out |
| 04:07.36 | *** join/#wowuidev Iriel (n=Iriel@adsl-71-158-244-138.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 04:07.36 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Iriel] by ChanServ |
| 04:07.44 | Cairenn|afk | I'd love to see the guilds actually get used :) |
| 04:08.05 | Shirik|Ecole | I might actually level Kimina on that server |
| 04:08.08 | Shirik|Ecole | I always wanted a NE druid |
| 04:08.11 | fcrick | hey...fbi is doing a big hiring push if you want to catch irc criminals and get paid for it |
| 04:08.27 | Shirik|Ecole | My parents have been trying to push me to join the FBI |
| 04:08.30 | Endeavour | <lua |
| 04:08.39 | fcrick | Shirik|Ecole: seriously? |
| 04:08.41 | Endeavour | ~lua local function EatIceCream(who) if who=="me" then return "burp!" else return "Me got fat now" end end EatIceCream("me") |
| 04:08.44 | Shirik|Ecole | sure, they do a lot of work with my mom's organization |
| 04:08.46 | Endeavour | hm |
| 04:08.54 | Shirik|Ecole | it's lua> |
| 04:08.54 | fcrick | nsa is way cooler |
| 04:08.55 | WobWork | use lua> |
| 04:09.02 | fcrick | fbi is like a poor man's nsa |
| 04:09.04 | Endeavour | lua> local function EatIceCream(who) if who=="me" then return "burp!" else return "Me got fat now" end end EatIceCream("me") |
| 04:09.04 | lua_bot | Endeavour: No output |
| 04:09.16 | Shirik|Ecole | my mom works for FINRA |
| 04:09.23 | procule | fbi > rcmp |
| 04:09.48 | fcrick | rcmp lol... |
| 04:09.57 | procule | ;) |
| 04:10.01 | Shirik|Ecole | Hey |
| 04:10.03 | Shirik|Ecole | careful |
| 04:10.05 | procule | we have horses ! |
| 04:10.06 | Shirik|Ecole | Cairenn|afk likes RCMP |
| 04:10.14 | fcrick | well, you can always join the texas rangers |
| 04:11.00 | Shirik|Ecole | seriously? |
| 04:11.17 | Cairenn|afk | Shirik|Ecole: you didn't see the bear & moose I gave Dolby & Kudane? |
| 04:11.21 | Shirik|Ecole | nope |
| 04:11.25 | Cairenn|afk | I thought you had |
| 04:11.28 | Shirik|Ecole | I see that I'm not a friend though :( |
| 04:11.31 | Cairenn|afk | yeah, they were too cute for words |
| 04:11.36 | Cairenn|afk | bah |
| 04:11.41 | Shirik|Ecole | ^_^ |
| 04:11.48 | fcrick | i think i saw you at blizzcon 07 Cairenn|afk not sure i said hello |
| 04:12.05 | Shirik|Ecole | She was the hawt one, is how you can recognize her |
| 04:12.06 | *** join/#wowuidev Kathrin-24^away (n=kati-zh@126-39-239-77-pool.cable.fcom.ch) |
| 04:12.11 | Cairenn|afk | bah |
| 04:12.15 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-o+b Kathrin-24^away *!*@126-39-239-77-pool.cable.fcom.ch] by Shirik|Ecole |
| 04:12.15 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Kathrin-24^away!n=nospam@conspiracy/developer/Shirik] by Shirik|Ecole (bye) |
| 04:12.17 | Shirik|Ecole | whoops |
| 04:12.20 | Shirik|Ecole | crap |
| 04:12.29 | WobWork | Surprise! |
| 04:12.30 | fcrick | seems like a lot of ppl were at that 'how to make an addon' talk which was a little annoyin |
| 04:12.31 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-b *!*@126-39-239-77-pool.cable.fcom.ch] by Shirik|Ecole |
| 04:12.33 | mikma | lol what |
| 04:12.42 | mikma | shirik|ecole: what'cha doing? |
| 04:12.47 | Shirik|Ecole | Hitting the wrong button >.> |
| 04:13.11 | Shirik|Ecole | My touchpad is ultra-sensitive :/ |
| 04:13.20 | Cairenn|afk | how sad is it that we have /mode +b hotkeyed :p |
| 04:13.35 | Shirik|Ecole | Actually, it was that I saw the .ch in his hostmask, so I pulled up his details window to monitor him |
| 04:13.42 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Shirik |
| 04:13.43 | purl | You suck at everything in life, Shirik. I hate you because you fail. |
| 04:13.44 | Shirik|Ecole | unfortunately, the ban button is right next to that |
| 04:14.20 | Shirik|Ecole | though |
| 04:14.25 | Shirik|Ecole | looking at him, it may have been warranted |
| 04:14.38 | Cairenn|afk | fcrick: the addon panel this year was, quite literally, wall to wall people |
| 04:14.38 | WobWork | ch? |
| 04:14.51 | WobWork | Cairenn|afk: cause addons are cool now =P |
| 04:14.52 | Shirik|Ecole | china, no? |
| 04:14.52 | Cairenn|afk | people were sitting in the aisles, standing against the walls, etc |
| 04:14.57 | Cairenn|afk | aye |
| 04:15.02 | Arrowmaster | charon would yell at you if he were here |
| 04:15.04 | WobWork | oh, I keep thinking zh |
| 04:15.12 | Shirik|Ecole | charon? |
| 04:15.13 | fcrick | Cairenn|afk: hehe cool |
| 04:15.17 | Arrowmaster | ch is switzerland |
| 04:15.21 | Shirik|Ecole | oh :( |
| 04:15.21 | fcrick | i guess you'll get a bigger room next year |
| 04:15.35 | Arrowmaster | i made the same mistake once and got yelled at |
| 04:15.36 | WobWork | china is .cn |
| 04:15.40 | Shirik|Ecole | that's it |
| 04:15.52 | Shirik|Ecole | oh well, I invited him back |
| 04:15.55 | Shirik|Ecole | he can come if he wants |
| 04:16.35 | fcrick | i was hanging out with my evil friends at blizzcon so i was kind of busy |
| 04:16.42 | Cairenn|afk | heh |
| 04:16.51 | Shirik|Ecole | so was I |
| 04:16.59 | Shirik|Ecole | But I locked Tem out of the hotel |
| 04:17.03 | Shirik|Ecole | best part of blizzcon ^ |
| 04:17.08 | Thunder_Child | was the hotel? |
| 04:17.15 | Shirik|Ecole | the locking Tem out part |
| 04:17.25 | Thunder_Child | the people that set up blizzcon might be a bit put out at that |
| 04:17.43 | Shirik|Ecole | well |
| 04:17.55 | Shirik|Ecole | I would have said the best part of blizzcon was beating Lopeppeppy at SC2 |
| 04:17.58 | Shirik|Ecole | but she's not here |
| 04:18.01 | Shirik|Ecole | so that takes the fun out of saying it |
| 04:18.14 | Cairenn|afk | apparently my hugs don't rate |
| 04:18.20 | Shirik|Ecole | no |
| 04:18.30 | Shirik|Ecole | they're so far up they caused overflow on the scale |
| 04:18.33 | Shirik|Ecole | so they appear negative |
| 04:18.50 | Shirik|Ecole | Hey! You said I wasn't a friend! |
| 04:19.04 | Cairenn|afk | no, YOU said you weren't a friend |
| 04:19.35 | Shirik|Ecole | (23:10:48) * @Cairenn|afk brought RCMP-outfitted stuffed animals down to BlizzCon for all of her friends this year :) |
| 04:19.40 | Shirik|Ecole | ^ |
| 04:20.08 | Cairenn|afk | (2009-01-06 23:10:45) ***Cairenn brought RCMP-outfitted stuffed animals down to BlizzCon for _a couple_ of her friends this year :) |
| 04:20.13 | Cairenn|afk | :p |
| 04:20.20 | Cairenn|afk | don't make me ban you again |
| 04:20.22 | Shirik|Ecole | I like my quote better |
| 04:20.25 | Shirik|Ecole | you can't ban me |
| 04:20.31 | Cairenn|afk | wanna watch me? |
| 04:20.36 | Shirik|Ecole | you wouldn't |
| 04:20.40 | Cairenn|afk | try me |
| 04:20.41 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, i want to see this |
| 04:20.47 | Shirik|Ecole | I do too |
| 04:21.11 | WobWork | =\ |
| 04:21.18 | Shirik|Ecole | See, told you she wouldn't :) |
| 04:21.19 | WobWork | Now I want a RCMP-outfitted stuffed animal |
| 04:21.28 | Cairenn|afk | you sure about that Shirik? |
| 04:21.34 | Shirik|Ecole | Well you haven't yet :) |
| 04:22.56 | Shirik|Ecole | Now if you had gotten me an RCMP-outfitted stuffed animal |
| 04:22.59 | Shirik|Ecole | maybe I'd believe you |
| 04:23.21 | Shirik|Ecole | I do wonder what you're waiting for |
| 04:23.28 | mikma | http://www.wowmeteronline.com/combat/detail/33602516 |
| 04:23.30 | mikma | lolzies |
| 04:23.37 | mikma | blood dk nr.1 in dps :I |
| 04:24.04 | Shirik|Ecole | oh, Cairenn|afk! |
| 04:24.06 | Shirik|Ecole | check this out |
| 04:24.08 | Shirik|Ecole | ~weather kdab |
| 04:24.30 | Cairenn|afk | uh huh |
| 04:24.31 | Cairenn|afk | that's nice |
| 04:24.49 | Shirik|Ecole | some day Cairenn|afk is just going to explode and kill me |
| 04:24.53 | fcrick | ~weather redmond |
| 04:25.01 | fcrick | awe |
| 04:25.24 | Cairenn|afk | heh, he still hasn't figured it out |
| 04:25.58 | Shirik|Ecole | Well I don't know what I'm supposed to be figuring out :/ |
| 04:26.20 | fcrick | ~weather katx |
| 04:26.22 | mikma | -13C in here |
| 04:26.30 | Shirik|Ecole | I know you haven't removed my access; I have announcements for that sort of thing |
| 04:26.35 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah |
| 04:26.37 | Shirik|Ecole | I figured it out |
| 04:26.39 | Shirik|Ecole | right after I said that |
| 04:26.45 | fcrick | ~weather Seattle NEXRAD |
| 04:26.50 | Pernicius | ~wather eddb |
| 04:26.51 | Pernicius | ~weather eddb |
| 04:26.51 | Shirik|Ecole | You're a bit too scared to ban me here though, no? |
| 04:26.53 | fcrick | ~weather NEXRAD |
| 04:27.04 | Cairenn|afk | lol |
| 04:27.07 | fcrick | stupid weather bot :( |
| 04:27.14 | Shirik|Ecole | Not stupid weather bot, stupid user :) |
| 04:27.14 | Cairenn|afk | I never said anything about banning you _in here_ |
| 04:27.18 | Shirik|Ecole | You are not supplying ICAO codes |
| 04:27.21 | *** join/#wowuidev Paene (n=Jim@71.238.173.187) |
| 04:27.21 | *** join/#wowuidev Larana (n=Anaral@WoWUIDev/Norganna/QA-Engineer/Anaral) |
| 04:27.30 | fcrick | yeah i did |
| 04:27.34 | Shirik|Ecole | ICAO codes are always 4 letters |
| 04:27.36 | fcrick | KATX that's my code |
| 04:27.37 | Shirik|Ecole | NEXRAD is not an ICAO code |
| 04:27.39 | *** part/#wowuidev Paene (n=Jim@71.238.173.187) |
| 04:27.42 | fcrick | ~weather KATX |
| 04:27.52 | fcrick | http://weather.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/nsd_lookup.pl?station=KATX |
| 04:27.53 | Shirik|Ecole | what are you looking for? |
| 04:28.01 | Endeavour | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:28.12 | fcrick | seattle... |
| 04:28.17 | Shirik|Ecole | seattle? |
| 04:28.30 | fcrick | correct |
| 04:28.48 | Shirik|Ecole | ~weather KSEA |
| 04:29.16 | Shirik|Ecole | use airports, you'll get better results |
| 04:29.49 | Shirik|Ecole | Cairenn|afk's boring though; attempts to ban here are more fun |
| 04:29.52 | Shirik|Ecole | they usually backfire ^_^ |
| 04:30.25 | Shirik|Ecole | anyway, question |
| 04:30.29 | Shirik|Ecole | should I do more work or go home |
| 04:30.40 | Cairenn|afk | CYOW |
| 04:30.43 | Cairenn|afk | errr |
| 04:30.46 | Shirik|Ecole | huh? |
| 04:30.51 | Cairenn|afk | ~weather CYOW |
| 04:30.56 | Endeavour | ~weather EDDS |
| 04:30.59 | Shirik|Ecole | rofl |
| 04:31.02 | Shirik|Ecole | 3 F |
| 04:31.04 | Shirik|Ecole | wow |
| 04:31.16 | Shirik|Ecole | let's take a look at tomorrow's highs |
| 04:32.21 | WobWork | pft |
| 04:32.24 | WobWork | ~weather YSSY |
| 04:32.26 | fcrick | its crazy windy outside |
| 04:32.51 | WobWork | It's a nice day today |
| 04:32.55 | WobWork | (to be in aircon) |
| 04:33.07 | WobWork | I'm surprised humidity is so low though |
| 04:33.23 | Codayus | ~weather NZWN |
| 04:33.46 | Codayus | It's a wonderful, lovely day. |
| 04:33.48 | Shirik|Ecole | ok here we go |
| 04:34.03 | WobWork | woo 82% humidity |
| 04:34.26 | Codayus | Yeah, but at 19 C, that's actually really pleasant. |
| 04:34.30 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-o Shirik|Ecole] by Cairenn|afk |
| 04:34.38 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+b Shirik|Ecole!*@*] by Cairenn|afk |
| 04:34.40 | WobWork | woo sneaky |
| 04:34.42 | *** kick/#WoWUIDev [Shirik|Ecole!n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn|afk (Cairenn|afk) |
| 04:34.45 | fcrick | !weather nzsp |
| 04:34.50 | fcrick | ~weather nzsp |
| 04:34.51 | Tem | Codayus, let me tell you a secret about Humidity |
| 04:34.52 | WobWork | just when Shirik is looking the other way |
| 04:35.04 | Tem | it ALWAYS sucks |
| 04:35.07 | WobWork | *POW*, right in the kisser! |
| 04:35.08 | Codayus | Tem: Untrue. |
| 04:35.12 | Tem | ~weather klft |
| 04:35.22 | Tem | fuck you 93% humidity |
| 04:35.32 | Tem | I can make paper mache by walking out-fucking side |
| 04:35.36 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+b Cairenn|afk!*@*] by Shiibot |
| 04:35.40 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Cairenn|afk!n=Shiibot@WoWUIDev/Nospam] by Shiibot (Shiibot) |
| 04:35.56 | Cide | I like the ban masks |
| 04:36.02 | Cide | it's not like you can change your name and have it fixed |
| 04:36.22 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-b Shirik|Ecole!*@*] by Shiibot |
| 04:36.27 | *** join/#wowuidev Shirik|Ecole (n=nospam@conspiracy/developer/Shirik) |
| 04:36.31 | Shirik|Ecole | I do believe I win |
| 04:36.32 | WobWork | And shirik uses his backdoor =P |
| 04:36.35 | Shirik|Ecole | even though she is very sneaky! |
| 04:36.55 | procule | ~weather yul |
| 04:36.57 | Codayus | Okay, 93% is a little high, I grant you. |
| 04:37.21 | Cide | you could, you know |
| 04:37.25 | Cide | just changed your name |
| 04:37.33 | Shirik|Ecole | but she removed my access to ban :( |
| 04:37.41 | Codayus | But it really could hardly be nicer in Wellington. ...well, assuming your not a huge fan of the day star. |
| 04:37.46 | Cide | ya, but the ban mask only applied to your name |
| 04:37.54 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shirik|Ecole] by Shiibot |
| 04:38.02 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-b Cairenn|afk!*@*] by Shirik|Ecole |
| 04:38.12 | *** join/#wowuidev Cairenn|afk (n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn) |
| 04:38.12 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Cairenn|afk] by ChanServ |
| 04:38.27 | Shirik|Ecole | I still think Shiibot wins this round |
| 04:38.34 | procule | ~weather cyul |
| 04:38.36 | Cairenn|afk | next time I'll ban shiibot too |
| 04:38.38 | Cairenn|afk | :p |
| 04:38.41 | Shirik|Ecole | :p |
| 04:38.49 | WobWork | =P |
| 04:38.54 | Shirik|Ecole | ou're lucky you caught me while I was checking weather |
| 04:38.56 | Cairenn|afk | you can't beat me, if I put my mind to it, I'm channel owner :p |
| 04:39.02 | WobWork | . o O ("C-C-Combo breaker!") |
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| 04:39.14 | Codayus | See, -10 C is a Bad Thing. |
| 04:39.57 | procule | it's quite warm |
| 04:40.09 | fcrick | i dunno seems pretty warm compared to the south pole station |
| 04:40.15 | procule | usually it's around -20 -25 |
| 04:40.21 | Cairenn|afk | -10C is run from the car to the store without a jacket :p |
| 04:40.24 | Shirik|Ecole | I do wonder why I didn't get the access alert, though |
| 04:40.30 | Codayus | That is a Worse Thing. |
| 04:40.32 | Cairenn|afk | hehehe |
| 04:40.42 | Shirik|Ecole | ooh, 78 degrees tomorrow! |
| 04:42.12 | Shirik|Ecole | Anyway, I think I'm going to get going home |
| 04:42.15 | Shirik|Ecole | you guys are too distracting |
| 04:42.23 | Shirik|Ecole | real question is whether or not I get food on the way home, or just eat ice cream at home |
| 04:42.51 | Olorin | ok thought of icecream just makes me feel colder lol |
| 04:43.09 | Shirik|Ecole | it's hot outside |
| 04:43.13 | Olorin | got mountaineering socks on and still cant feel my feet |
| 04:45.06 | WobWork | It's cold outside |
| 04:45.10 | WobWork | There's no kind of atmosphere |
| 04:45.12 | WobWork | I'm all alone |
| 04:45.14 | WobWork | More or less |
| 04:45.20 | WobWork | I want to fly far away from here |
| 04:45.22 | WobWork | Fun fun fun |
| 04:45.25 | WobWork | In the sun sun sun |
| 04:45.35 | Shirik|Ecole | ... w@? |
| 04:45.44 | WobWork | I want to lie |
| 04:45.50 | WobWork | Shipwrecked and comatose |
| 04:45.54 | WobWork | drinking fresh, mango juice |
| 04:46.01 | Shirik|Ecole | that doesn't rhyme |
| 04:46.02 | WobWork | Goldfish shoals, nibbling at my toes |
| 04:46.03 | Shirik|Ecole | go away! |
| 04:46.07 | WobWork | fun fun fun |
| 04:46.10 | WobWork | in the sun sun sun |
| 04:46.13 | Shirik|Ecole | ~stab WobWork |
| 04:46.13 | purl | ACTION runs at WobWork with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 04:46.23 | WobWork | bloody americans with no taste in tv shows |
| 04:46.42 | Shirik|Ecole | I hate TVB |
| 04:46.47 | Olorin | dang its 21f here atm, in UK |
| 04:48.09 | Shirik|Ecole | http://media.putfile.com/gnome-lvl-2-pvp |
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| 04:49.13 | kd3 | red dwarf <3 |
| 04:49.28 | kd3 | it'd be nice if the movie ever got out of development hell |
| 04:50.38 | WobWork | yay kd3 |
| 04:51.23 | kd3 | oh shit. I've gotta open tomorrow (read: up at 6, at work at 7:30) |
| 04:52.07 | Olorin | lol powernap? |
| 04:52.10 | fcrick | WobWork: i like that The Chaser show... |
| 04:52.14 | fcrick | very funny |
| 04:52.22 | WobWork | The Chaser is very good =) |
| 04:52.29 | Shirik|Ecole | well, that's a fun bug in Chrome |
| 04:52.33 | Shirik|Ecole | how could they miss that |
| 04:53.00 | Shirik|Ecole | Attempting to view a website that requires a certificate for authentication when you don't have a valid cert = crash |
| 04:53.20 | fcrick | i guess my waiting to try chrome is justified |
| 04:53.30 | NightHawkTheSane | squirrel catapult! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti2LtyelUr4 |
| 04:53.33 | Shirik|Ecole | well it's not like that's a common case |
| 04:53.36 | WobWork | Chrome is quite good |
| 04:53.37 | Shirik|Ecole | however it should be a common test case |
| 04:53.48 | WobWork | as soon as they have adblocking, I'll switch permanently =) |
| 04:53.49 | fcrick | i'm gonna give em another 6 months |
| 04:53.51 | Shirik|Ecole | very few people use identity certificates client-side |
| 04:53.56 | WobWork | but I doubt they ever will |
| 04:53.58 | WobWork | being Google |
| 04:54.07 | fcrick | do they support firefox extensions? |
| 04:54.11 | WobWork | no |
| 04:54.16 | WobWork | (not afaik) |
| 04:54.19 | fcrick | well, i guess i'll never switch hehe |
| 04:54.20 | Tem | Vegeta! What does the scouter say about his power level!? |
| 04:54.22 | Shirik|Ecole | ok I go home |
| 04:54.29 | Shirik|Ecole | bibi |
| 04:54.31 | WobWork | IT'S OVER NINE THOUSAND! |
| 04:54.48 | WobWork | Tem: You just lost the game. |
| 04:56.02 | Tem | I'm playing Burst limit on my 360 |
| 04:56.06 | Tem | and that scene is totally in it |
| 04:56.17 | fcrick | anyone know why alt-tab works on my desktop but not on my laptop (running wow in a window) |
| 04:56.31 | fcrick | once wow is in focus i have to click on the taskbar its annoying |
| 04:56.47 | Zyndrome | http://break.com/index/japanese-human-slip-n-slide.html |
| 04:57.02 | Zyndrome | yes please |
| 04:57.34 | Olorin | fcrick xp or vista? |
| 04:58.11 | Thunder_Child | they dont pay thoes women enough |
| 04:58.32 | WobWork | I was just thinking that |
| 04:58.34 | fcrick | Olorin: vista on both |
| 04:58.35 | WobWork | those poor women |
| 04:58.57 | Olorin | windows-tab work? |
| 04:59.00 | fcrick | i'd run xp on the laptop but the drivers suck so bad its a no go |
| 04:59.18 | fcrick | no :( |
| 04:59.36 | Olorin | got the fn key turned on? |
| 04:59.44 | fcrick | even if I bring up the start menu then alt tab i can see the alt tab thing but it doesn't actually change the window when i finish |
| 05:00.12 | fcrick | Olorin: yes, i am on a MacBook Pro hehe |
| 05:00.28 | fcrick | i have it set so pressing the F-keys does it like a normal keyboard |
| 05:00.32 | Olorin | ah so not native? |
| 05:00.38 | fcrick | no, native |
| 05:00.50 | fcrick | just vista installed on my mac hardware |
| 05:00.58 | fcrick | its pretty |
| 05:01.55 | Olorin | shrugs, dunno macs lol, I woulda thought the OS was on top of an emulator thats not passing the keys to the correct window |
| 05:02.01 | Thunder_Child | and the really funny thing is that all of the drawn stuff is english style drawing, not asian |
| 05:02.54 | fcrick | far as i know its just like a normal computer with windows installed |
| 05:03.02 | fcrick | x86 and all |
| 05:03.35 | Bibi` | [05:54:07] <Shirik|Ecole> bibi |
| 05:03.36 | Bibi` | what :( |
| 05:04.27 | |Jelly| | How would I have an editbox fill in the name of the person I just clicked on? |
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| 05:06.00 | Olorin | EditBox:SetText("Text") |
| 05:06.00 | Olorin | an editbox? |
| 05:06.05 | |Jelly| | How would I have an editbox fill in the name of the person I just *clicked* on |
| 05:06.25 | fcrick | you can get the name of your target i think |
| 05:06.32 | fcrick | that what you mean? |
| 05:06.35 | |Jelly| | UnitName("target") Yeah |
| 05:06.50 | |Jelly| | But what Handler would I put that in? |
| 05:07.09 | fcrick | well, you could catch the event when your target changes |
| 05:07.34 | fcrick | just write a frame that will spew out all events should be easy to see which it is |
| 05:07.36 | |Jelly| | And put it in an <OnEvent> check. Thanks <3 |
| 05:07.47 | Olorin | PLAYER_FOCUS_CHANGED ? |
| 05:08.33 | fcrick | like /script xx = CreateFrame('Frame'); xx:RegisterAllEvents() xx:SetScript('OnEvent', function(event) DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(event) end) |
| 05:08.38 | fcrick | or something like that |
| 05:08.47 | fcrick | focus is something else |
| 05:09.01 | Olorin | ah i wasnt certain hence the ? |
| 05:09.23 | fcrick | let me fix my event spewer one sec |
| 05:09.37 | Olorin | PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED should do it |
| 05:10.14 | Olorin | Irel's Devtools has event trace for that sort of stuff |
| 05:10.15 | |Jelly| | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/Unit_Info <3 |
| 05:11.23 | fcrick | yeah i'd install that addon will probably be nice |
| 05:12.12 | |Jelly| | I have it. lol |
| 05:13.21 | fcrick | Olorin: link? |
| 05:13.29 | fcrick | oh |
| 05:13.32 | fcrick | Iriel's |
| 05:13.41 | fcrick | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info3999-DevTools.html |
| 05:13.47 | Olorin | aye |
| 05:14.10 | |Jelly| | BTW |
| 05:15.06 | Tem | ~devtools |
| 05:15.07 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 05:16.03 | fcrick | cause very few players are devs? |
| 05:17.32 | Seerah | it was a joke :P |
| 05:18.06 | Iriel | 8-) |
| 05:18.22 | Thunder_Child | more like development tools |
| 05:20.15 | Seerah | says development tools on the wowi page |
| 05:20.53 | Olorin | I need an easier project, was planning on a drilldown menu system that allows arguments to be passed that can be any frame and it will put in in a drilldown |
| 05:20.57 | Olorin | menu that is |
| 05:28.00 | |Jelly| | http://www.pastey.net/105731 <-- :( |
| 05:29.12 | Olorin | never triggers true? |
| 05:29.41 | |Jelly| | Well, it sure doesn't put the name of the target in the box and defocus. lol |
| 05:29.56 | Olorin | try ~= nil ? |
| 05:30.26 | |Jelly| | woot |
| 05:30.28 | |Jelly| | thanks. |
| 05:30.39 | |Jelly| | Wonder why it wouldn't work with True. :-\ |
| 05:30.45 | Olorin | hehe |
| 05:32.32 | NightHawkTheSane | probably because HasFocus() doesn't return what you seem to think it does? :P |
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| 05:32.45 | Olorin | well its 5:32am so im off to bed, gnight all |
| 05:33.19 | |Jelly| | It returned "False" so I assumed it would return "True" too |
| 05:33.28 | |Jelly| | I guess that's what I get for assuming! :( |
| 05:34.53 | |Jelly| | Besides, Lunessa told me something once. It's better to check for nil than for a value? Something to that effect. |
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| 05:48.23 | fcrick | dang these devtools are nice |
| 05:48.33 | fcrick | why did i never try this... |
| 05:49.17 | Thunder_Child | only you can say for sure my child |
| 05:49.55 | procule | Invalid anchor point in frame: (null) means what ? |
| 05:50.35 | procule | That the anchor point in the frame is null ? |
| 05:50.51 | procule | ;) |
| 05:51.45 | Tekkub | helps to give us the offending code |
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| 05:52.33 | WobWork | sounds like you're not passing in an anchor point =) |
| 05:52.56 | procule | got it |
| 05:53.11 | WobWork | lol@terrible xkcd |
| 05:53.45 | procule | what's xkcd ? |
| 05:54.36 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: hehe, indeed. i am amused :) |
| 05:54.38 | ckknight | ~xkcd |
| 05:54.39 | purl | [xkcd] http://xkcd.com/ or only the best webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math and language. |
| 05:54.39 | Tekkub | http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=xkcd |
| 05:55.13 | ckknight | lol @ alt test |
| 05:55.19 | ckknight | text* |
| 05:55.45 | procule | ok |
| 05:56.30 | procule | so that girl who told me to call her in japan and asked me to give the code xkcd... it was a sarcasm ? |
| 05:57.02 | ckknight | no |
| 05:57.33 | ckknight | it was a playful quip |
| 05:57.39 | procule | well... anyway I didn't get her hehe |
| 06:03.21 | WobWork | It could have been a Math |
| 06:03.25 | WobWork | Or even a Romance |
| 06:03.58 | Thunder_Child | or SARCASM |
| 06:05.17 | fcrick | Tekkub: heh fun never seen that be4 |
| 06:06.52 | WobWork | Thunder_Child: yeah right. |
| 06:07.13 | Thunder_Child | ~>.< |
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| 06:10.34 | procule | ok |
| 06:10.37 | procule | now |
| 06:10.53 | procule | they say "keep it simple" |
| 06:11.00 | procule | but it cannot be simpler than that |
| 06:11.34 | Thunder_Child | ~wtf kiss |
| 06:11.38 | Thunder_Child | ^^ |
| 06:11.56 | procule | http://www.pastey.net/105735 <--- what is wrong !! |
| 06:12.26 | Tekkub | XML? |
| 06:12.42 | procule | yes |
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| 06:22.38 | Thrae | Poor cats, they rely so much on their noses. They can only see black, white, and maybe mexican. |
| 06:30.05 | ckknight | lol, Thrae |
| 06:30.16 | ckknight | procule: don't use XML |
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| 06:33.49 | procule | why's that ? |
| 06:34.03 | procule | it *seems* easier |
| 06:34.46 | ckknight | it's not. |
| 06:34.48 | ckknight | at all |
| 06:34.52 | ckknight | it makes debugging hell |
| 06:34.52 | WobWork | it gets terribly complex |
| 06:34.57 | WobWork | after a few layers |
| 06:34.58 | ckknight | and lua is easier to manage |
| 06:35.02 | WobWork | and visualise |
| 06:35.03 | ckknight | especially if you want to duplicate things |
| 06:35.07 | ckknight | for loops and such |
| 06:35.10 | ckknight | rather than repetition |
| 06:35.43 | procule | well i was going to build the UI with xml and use lua for functions |
| 06:35.47 | procule | isnt that ok ? |
| 06:35.49 | ckknight | no |
| 06:35.51 | ckknight | well |
| 06:35.55 | ckknight | you can do it |
| 06:35.58 | ckknight | it's not recommended |
| 06:36.02 | ckknight | by practically anyone |
| 06:36.27 | procule | most of the addon i've seen use xml |
| 06:36.34 | procule | so... i was thinking it was ok |
| 06:36.53 | ckknight | which addons are these? |
| 06:36.54 | ckknight | :P |
| 06:37.08 | procule | well lol 2 or 3 i downloaded |
| 06:37.15 | procule | to test |
| 06:37.18 | ckknight | I request names |
| 06:37.52 | procule | ok... so i forget the 6 hours i've put in that damn button and start fresh in lua ? |
| 06:38.13 | ckknight | yep |
| 06:38.17 | procule | lol |
| 06:38.29 | procule | but really |
| 06:38.44 | procule | i would like to know what's the problem to that SIMPLE button |
| 06:38.55 | ckknight | oh |
| 06:38.58 | ckknight | it's invisible |
| 06:39.03 | ckknight | probably. |
| 06:39.18 | procule | i do a Show() |
| 06:39.19 | ckknight | also, readyframe isn't anchored to anything |
| 06:39.25 | ckknight | yea, but there are no textures or text |
| 06:40.12 | procule | text="READY!" in the button is not ok ? |
| 06:40.33 | ckknight | nope |
| 06:40.34 | ckknight | no font set |
| 06:40.43 | ckknight | anchoring's your big issue, though |
| 06:40.49 | ckknight | still, start over in scratch |
| 06:40.52 | ckknight | no XML files for making frames |
| 06:41.01 | ckknight | XML is fine for loading other XML files or lua |
| 06:41.35 | ckknight | but here's what you want: |
| 06:41.48 | ckknight | local MahButton = CreateFrame("Button", "MahButton", UIParent, "UIPanelButtonTemplate2") |
| 06:41.52 | ckknight | MahButton:SetText("Zomg!") |
| 06:41.57 | ckknight | MahButton:SetPoint("CENTER") |
| 06:41.58 | ckknight | done. |
| 06:42.07 | WobWork | (:Show()?) |
| 06:42.39 | procule | it does the fontset automatically ? |
| 06:43.07 | ckknight | WobWork: shown by default |
| 06:43.15 | ckknight | procule: that's inherited from UIPanelButtonTemplate2 |
| 06:43.19 | procule | ok |
| 06:43.37 | procule | i put Show() to be sure |
| 06:43.52 | procule | since it was not showing hehe |
| 06:43.53 | ckknight | if that makes you feel like more of a man |
| 06:44.06 | ckknight | you might need to set the width and height |
| 06:44.18 | procule | yeah i did that |
| 06:44.38 | procule | i reduce the code to the simplier possible |
| 06:45.15 | procule | ok |
| 06:45.33 | procule | so i keep the xml for the events and that's all ? |
| 06:45.40 | ckknight | no |
| 06:45.44 | procule | everything else is in lua ? |
| 06:45.48 | ckknight | everything in lua |
| 06:45.58 | ckknight | :RegisterForEvent("SOME_EVENT") |
| 06:45.59 | procule | oh |
| 06:46.10 | ckknight | :SetScript("OnEvent", function(self, event, ...) |
| 06:46.13 | ckknight | -- do stuff |
| 06:46.15 | ckknight | end) |
| 06:46.17 | procule | yeah i had that |
| 06:46.21 | procule | it was working |
| 06:46.38 | procule | i just thought that the UI must be in XML |
| 06:46.59 | procule | really, i prefer lua |
| 06:47.20 | ckknight | not since 1.10 |
| 06:47.27 | ckknight | I remember ... I was there |
| 06:47.30 | procule | my other things (without UI) works fine |
| 06:47.39 | ckknight | during the battle of Lua vs. XML when Lua finally won |
| 06:47.50 | procule | lol really |
| 06:47.57 | ckknight | I'm being facetious |
| 06:48.14 | procule | in the wiki they should tell it :P |
| 06:49.10 | Thunder_Child | ~vs Lua XML |
| 06:49.11 | purl | in a one on one showdown, XML wins. |
| 06:49.24 | Arrowmaster | ~vs XML Lua |
| 06:49.25 | purl | in a one on one showdown, everyone wins. |
| 06:49.36 | procule | lol |
| 06:49.36 | Arrowmaster | ~fail |
| 06:49.37 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, fail is what happens to you when you follow gamespot's game advice. |
| 06:49.55 | Arrowmaster | i loled |
| 06:50.11 | procule | ok i'm going to change all that in lua, bb to you ckknight |
| 06:58.32 | Tekkub | lol, fuck you perfect cuts |
| 06:58.38 | Tekkub | I tried to outsmart it tonight |
| 06:59.10 | Tekkub | cut, prefect... same cut, perfect... another of the same perfect... diff cut, normal... back to the first cut, perfect |
| 07:01.32 | ckknight | are you cutting up a body or something different? |
| 07:01.36 | ckknight | cause I'm good with the former |
| 07:01.48 | Tekkub | gems :P |
| 07:01.51 | ckknight | ah |
| 07:01.51 | ckknight | okay |
| 07:01.55 | ckknight | slightly different |
| 07:03.36 | Torhal | I thought he was talking about a hair salon. |
| 07:03.37 | Torhal | :D |
| 07:16.53 | Tekkub | http://www.awkwardzombie.com/comic1-123008.php |
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| 07:35.57 | Antiarc | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/keynote.png is delicious. |
| 07:37.18 | Syzgyn | So, Cirque was even more awesome than expected. |
| 07:38.09 | Tekkub | always is |
| 07:38.12 | Tekkub | which show? |
| 07:38.32 | Syzgyn | Kooza |
| 07:38.47 | Tekkub | hrm... must be a new one |
| 07:38.54 | Syzgyn | Its the current traveling one. |
| 07:39.01 | Tekkub | ah lovely all flash site, fucking artists |
| 07:39.04 | Syzgyn | Really amazing |
| 07:39.06 | Syzgyn | lol |
| 07:39.13 | Tekkub | there's lots of traveling ones |
| 07:39.28 | Tekkub | prolly just the newest |
| 07:39.32 | Syzgyn | I guess |
| 07:39.55 | Tekkub | VOLUME! |
| 07:39.59 | Tekkub | fucking flash sites... |
| 07:40.10 | Syzgyn | Ew, chris angel with cirque? |
| 07:40.31 | Antiarc | http://www.seisports.com/?,browse,31,163,49,042059 |
| 07:40.53 | Syzgyn | Ah, so there are several touring ones |
| 07:40.59 | Syzgyn | only one in the US though |
| 07:41.04 | Tekkub | "a melancholy loner in search of his place in the world" sounds like me, except I have an apartment already |
| 07:41.12 | Arrowmaster | why isnt Cide here so i can slap him |
| 07:41.42 | Tekkub | yea I saw Alegrea after Quidam, and it Quidam was the later creation |
| 07:41.54 | Syzgyn | yeah |
| 07:42.09 | Syzgyn | I have the music from 4 of em |
| 07:42.10 | fcrick | anyone know where it explains exactly what toplevel="true" means for a frame? |
| 07:42.11 | Tekkub | looks like Kooza's coming to Denver, I'll have to harass the mother for tickets |
| 07:42.19 | Syzgyn | and I'll prolly get Kooza too |
| 07:42.26 | fcrick | and how to set that in lua, hopefully |
| 07:42.41 | Tekkub | Trey didn't get to go to Alegrea cause my sister's hubby got all drunk and violent so my mom gave her Trey's ticket |
| 07:42.44 | Tekkub | he's still bitter |
| 07:43.00 | Tekkub | :SetTopLevel(true) |
| 07:43.34 | Tekkub | http://www.wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Frame/SetToplevel |
| 07:43.41 | fcrick | i just totally asked the wrong qn |
| 07:43.42 | fcrick | bleh |
| 07:43.47 | Tekkub | you don't have to ask us, it's not hard to find the answers yourself :P |
| 07:43.55 | Syzgyn | lol Tek |
| 07:44.00 | Arrowmaster | fuck |
| 07:44.03 | Tekkub | me |
| 07:44.11 | Arrowmaster | why the fuck does CT_RaidAssist get updated for 3.0 |
| 07:44.13 | fcrick | just ignore me i was just confused |
| 07:44.20 | Tekkub | lolol |
| 07:44.26 | Arrowmaster | when it clearly still does stuff thats broken from looking at the code |
| 07:44.31 | Tekkub | by the original author? |
| 07:44.33 | fcrick | i'd already done that one i and even wrote the code and somehow i forgot and then i got lost |
| 07:44.39 | Arrowmaster | its updated on ctmod.net |
| 07:44.40 | Tekkub | or some shitty "fan update"? |
| 07:44.44 | fcrick | maybe i need more coffeee |
| 07:44.58 | Arrowmaster | and it still hooks ChatFrame_OnEvent, which causes taint |
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| 07:45.32 | Arrowmaster | and still has a "CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_FRIENDLY_DEATH" check |
| 07:46.05 | Tem | Yay |
| 07:46.27 | Tem | You have been awarded the title Doloros the Argent Champion. |
| 07:46.53 | Tekkub | so by "updated" you mean, the TOC number? |
| 07:47.01 | Arrowmaster | fucking ohrly raid check |
| 07:47.20 | Tekkub | Tem, Doloros the Explorer, you must get it |
| 07:47.40 | Tem | meh |
| 07:47.40 | Tekkub | and wear it proudly |
| 07:47.51 | Arrowmaster | /headdesk |
| 07:47.59 | Tem | I think I'm making an RP decision with this title |
| 07:48.19 | Arrowmaster | fucking temp table with the exact same static data created on every reagent check |
| 07:48.39 | Tekkub | let me guess, reagent check still scans bags |
| 07:48.40 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: I thought CT was dead. WTF? |
| 07:48.51 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: IT SHOULD BE |
| 07:48.54 | Tekkub | you know what thought did... |
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| 07:50.01 | Torhal | Damn you, Tekkub. |
| 07:50.08 | Torhal | Now I feel like Firefox is bloated. |
| 07:50.09 | Arrowmaster | Tekkub: yes it still scans the bags |
| 07:50.19 | Tekkub | hehe |
| 07:50.23 | Tekkub | Arrowmaster, figures |
| 07:50.32 | Elkano | Torhal, QTip now has clicking but not scrolling, right? |
| 07:50.34 | Tekkub | is the previous version somewhere, I want a diff |
| 07:50.39 | Tekkub | I bet only the TOC changed |
| 07:50.45 | Torhal | Elkano: With LibQTipClick, yes |
| 07:50.57 | Torhal | No scrolling, aye. |
| 07:51.07 | Tekkub | Torhal, FF is great, chrome's just nicer "bare" |
| 07:51.25 | Elkano | sad... I don't want to page tooltips :/ |
| 07:51.26 | Tekkub | I fear many FF addons are shit, but I'm not about to make the mistake of digging into that code |
| 07:51.27 | Torhal | Tekkub: The speed difference is astounding. |
| 07:51.37 | Tekkub | it'll be wow addons x10000 for my OCD |
| 07:51.45 | Arrowmaster | what are the new lvl 80 reagents for class buffs? |
| 07:51.59 | Tekkub | Chrome just need greasemonkey for reals and some adblock, and flashblock |
| 07:53.00 | Tekkub | Arrowmaster, http://www.wowhead.com/?items=15.1#0-2+1 |
| 07:53.04 | Tekkub | the top three? |
| 07:53.14 | Arrowmaster | Tekkub: no it actually has updated reagent check it seems, which is funny since from what i remember the druid one never got updated for lvl 70 reagent so we could never update it in ora2 |
| 07:53.23 | Torhal | Elkano: You could set a cell to be an up/down arrow and draw the previous/next section. |
| 07:53.35 | Torhal | Or convince me that it needs a scrollbar :) |
| 07:53.49 | Tekkub | scrollywheel! |
| 07:54.03 | Tekkub | I don't do scrollbars till someone with a trackball comes along |
| 07:54.21 | Tekkub | I want to tell em to piss off and get a real mouse... but I still kinda like trackballs |
| 07:54.25 | Torhal | Every time I pick up a mouse, I cringe. Fucking trackball has me spoiled. |
| 07:54.33 | Tekkub | tho there was an MS one that had a scrollwheel |
| 07:54.51 | Torhal | I'm using a nine-year-old Logitech |
| 07:54.56 | Thunder_Child | Tekkub, looks like it has greasemonkey and a limited adblock |
| 07:55.04 | Tekkub | does anyone even manufacture trackballs anymore? |
| 07:55.08 | Torhal | Yah |
| 07:55.17 | Torhal | You just can't find 'em at, say, Wal-Mart |
| 07:55.26 | Tekkub | Thunder_Child, the GM is only the dev builds unless they ninja'd it in |
| 07:55.42 | Tekkub | and adblock can only be done through proxy creap or HOSTS blocking |
| 07:56.08 | Arrowmaster | rogues dont need flash power anymore right? |
| 07:56.38 | Thunder_Child | Tekkub, yes, hence the LIMITED |
| 07:56.56 | Tekkub | this is what I was thinking of: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104156 |
| 07:57.10 | Thunder_Child | http://www.mychromeaddons.com/chrome-addon-greasemetal-greasemonkey-for-chrome/ |
| 07:57.25 | Tekkub | Thunder_Child, yea but, that's not Chrome's adblock at all, as you could do the same with any browser |
| 07:57.37 | Tekkub | greasemetal is the same crap :P |
| 07:57.56 | Tekkub | I'm talking REAL support in the browser, not hack-ons |
| 07:58.11 | Thunder_Child | w/e, i'm fine with FF |
| 07:58.29 | Torhal | Tekkub: That looks exactly like my Trackball, but with a cord. |
| 07:58.38 | Elkano | Tekkub, I used to have this baby <3 http://www.krap.pl/mirrorz/atari/www.atari-computermuseum.de/pics/zubehoer/xl/cx80.jpg |
| 07:58.43 | Tekkub | so you have a wheel :) |
| 07:58.46 | Torhal | Aye |
| 08:00.26 | Tekkub | we'll see if my cat hair in the mouse hole issue ever bothers me enough to break my mouse |
| 08:00.26 | Shiibot | New WoW-US Server Alert: January 6, 2009,11:30 PM PST. |
| 08:00.26 | Shiibot | We will be performing rolling restarts tomorrow, January 7th beginning at approximately 5:00 AM PST for all US realms, and 10:00 AM PST for Oceanic realms. The entire process should take no longer than one hour. We appreciate your patience and understanding. |
| 08:03.11 | Torhal | Heh |
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| 08:06.01 | fcrick | huh? servers going down today too? |
| 08:06.04 | fcrick | ... |
| 08:09.15 | Elkano | Torhal, what I need that for is FactionsFu/FriendsFu/GuildFu ^^ |
| 08:10.07 | Tekkub | you just need fewer friends |
| 08:10.15 | Arrowmaster | Elkano: just keep using tablet |
| 08:11.24 | Elkano | :/ |
| 08:23.03 | fcrick | not that important, but is there a way to make a right justified FontString in code without xml? |
| 08:23.14 | fcrick | doesn't seem to be in the API :( |
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| 08:26.47 | zenzio | fcrick: http://www.wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/FontInstance/SetJustifyH |
| 08:27.11 | Arrowmaster | somebody should delete http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info12067-oRA2-FragedOut.html |
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| 08:34.39 | Thunder_Child | watching night court is making me nastalgic |
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| 08:35.00 | Thunder_Child | nostalgic* |
| 08:38.01 | Tekkub | I always liked the big guy |
| 08:38.08 | Thunder_Child | bull |
| 08:39.38 | Tekkub | yea |
| 08:39.48 | Tekkub | see I was a furry even when I was like, what, 7? |
| 08:40.22 | mikma | early-furry |
| 08:40.34 | Thunder_Child | Tekkub, he is bald |
| 08:40.44 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Tekkub |
| 08:40.45 | purl | Tekkub: FAIL! |
| 08:41.32 | mikma | thunder_child: there might be hair in somewhere else... like entire body |
| 08:42.09 | Tekkub | in most cases, the less hair on the head, the more everywhere else |
| 08:42.25 | Thunder_Child | mikma. doesnt matter if he looks like a shag carpet under his clothes |
| 08:42.35 | Thunder_Child | Tekkub, it's shaved bald, not natural |
| 08:42.36 | Tekkub | sure it does! |
| 08:42.42 | Tekkub | or IS IT |
| 08:42.45 | Tekkub | *boggle* |
| 08:42.48 | Thunder_Child | it is |
| 08:43.34 | fcrick | that's odd...new new frame fills the whole screen :/ |
| 08:43.40 | fcrick | guess i should fix that |
| 08:45.12 | fcrick | well at least i know how to turn down wow's brightness |
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| 08:50.50 | fcrick | aparently if you want to use the last two params of SetPoint you have to fill in the middle ones...passing nil won't go and find the defaults :/ |
| 08:55.54 | Thunder_Child | ~weather KLAX |
| 08:56.54 | Thunder_Child | ~weather KNKX |
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| 09:13.21 | fcrick | i feel that to continue working i must have graham crackers |
| 09:13.36 | fcrick | or some other calorie stream... |
| 09:13.40 | fcrick | hmmm |
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| 09:47.14 | Fetchboris | sry for fairly stupid question, but what is the name of the Blizzard frame sometimes visible at the top of the screen that is shows the basic pvp info for certain zones and things like the percentage status of BM or violet hold? |
| 09:50.15 | fcrick | might be in the Blizzard_BattlefieldMinimap addon |
| 09:50.22 | fcrick | not sure what the frame is called |
| 09:50.24 | Fetchboris | k thx |
| 09:51.23 | mikma | shirik: ping |
| 09:51.45 | fcrick | hmm maybe not... |
| 09:51.58 | Fetchboris | yeah doesn't look like it |
| 09:52.27 | fcrick | if there is some unique text you can track it down that way |
| 09:52.34 | Fetchboris | good point |
| 09:52.35 | mikma | some wowi admin that understands lua! |
| 09:52.41 | mikma | i need you! now! |
| 09:53.14 | fcrick | BattlefieldFrame.xml? |
| 09:53.35 | Fetchboris | i'll have a look, thx |
| 09:53.40 | fcrick | looks like that might be for joining |
| 09:54.17 | Fetchboris | yep looks like the queue frame |
| 09:54.47 | fcrick | been a while since i've been on the battlegrounds, i'm afraid |
| 09:54.56 | Fetchboris | yeah |
| 09:55.21 | Fetchboris | certain world zones and instances (VH & BM) also use this status frame |
| 09:55.21 | fcrick | is this in battlefields or just in pvp areas? |
| 09:56.03 | Fetchboris | it is the 2 lines of text at the top generally that say things like the % prison seal integrity in violet hold or % whatever in black morass too |
| 09:56.13 | Fetchboris | or the number of guards remaining in halaa |
| 09:56.17 | Fetchboris | when you are in that zone |
| 09:56.37 | fcrick | i must suck at this game hehe |
| 09:57.54 | fcrick | google /dtframestack |
| 09:58.19 | Fetchboris | ah thx :) |
| 09:58.21 | mikma | shirik: ping ping ping, wakey |
| 09:58.25 | fcrick | if you get that addon - the DevTools one you can turn that on and just check |
| 09:58.41 | Fetchboris | yeah cool stuff, thx heaps |
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| 10:17.29 | ZorbaTHut | yay exalted hodir! and 9000g of mammoth :( |
| 10:18.04 | fcrick | you got a mammoth? |
| 10:18.30 | mikma | zorbathut: dont! |
| 10:18.35 | mikma | its useless mammoth |
| 10:18.52 | ZorbaTHut | I'm a mount collector :P |
| 10:19.01 | mikma | oh. |
| 10:19.07 | mikma | poor bastard. |
| 10:19.08 | ZorbaTHut | +achievement collector |
| 10:19.12 | fcrick | expensive hobby hehe |
| 10:19.19 | ZorbaTHut | meh, it's something to spend my ridiculous amounts of AH manipulation money on |
| 10:19.36 | ZorbaTHut | I had 20k a few minutes ago, it's not like I really have anything to do with it |
| 10:20.02 | fcrick | you could have given it to poor noobs |
| 10:20.12 | fcrick | you can take a deduction now i think |
| 10:20.24 | ZorbaTHut | or I could stand around in Stormwind, on my giant, expensive, useless mammoth, and laugh at them |
| 10:20.30 | ZorbaTHut | I know which idea I like better! |
| 10:21.38 | fcrick | ZorbaTHut: woah by coincidence i just looked up Quest Helper on curse |
| 10:21.53 | fcrick | guess who i saw up there as project manager... :) |
| 10:22.14 | fcrick | nice work there man that addon is a fine piece of work |
| 10:22.33 | mikma | shusssssssss |
| 10:22.55 | mikma | zorbathut is the one who was able to write addon that stealts all your stuff |
| 10:22.56 | ZorbaTHut | thanks :) hoping to release 0.81 today, after I finish up some dailies and food and testing |
| 10:22.58 | mikma | in .lua! |
| 10:23.11 | ZorbaTHut | mikma, using my power of CODING THE IMPOSSIBLE! |
| 10:23.38 | fcrick | i was just gonna go look at how you represent everything |
| 10:23.45 | ZorbaTHut | fcrick, trust me you do not want to do that |
| 10:23.50 | ZorbaTHut | it's . . . bad |
| 10:24.04 | fcrick | you ever gonna add something to have it recommend quests to pick up |
| 10:24.14 | fcrick | instead of just working on the ones you already have |
| 10:24.16 | ZorbaTHut | definitely, but that's going to be after a significant amount of work on the core |
| 10:24.19 | ZorbaTHut | I have a *lot* of plans |
| 10:24.31 | ZorbaTHut | right now I'm just trying to make the data formats saner and more efficient. |
| 10:25.03 | ZorbaTHut | for example, right now whenever some bozo submits data from a private server, I have to rebuild the entire database from zero, which takes about a day and rising. I would prefer this be fixed *soon* :) |
| 10:25.39 | fcrick | eek |
| 10:26.26 | ZorbaTHut | (on the other hand, before some optimizations, it was slower - I estimate that without them it'd be taking about two months, and something on the order of 32gb of RAM. So, y'know. Progress.) |
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| 10:35.12 | ZorbaTHut | exalted frenzyheart :D |
| 10:35.28 | mikma | gz! |
| 10:35.38 | mikma | got anything good from the jar? |
| 10:35.47 | mikma | i got the brew in first |
| 10:35.51 | ZorbaTHut | I got the brew in the second |
| 10:35.54 | ZorbaTHut | I think that's the best thing you get |
| 10:35.57 | mikma | after that, different potions |
| 10:36.03 | ZorbaTHut | time to tell the frenzyheart to fuck off and join the oracles ;) |
| 10:36.45 | mikma | ya |
| 10:36.57 | mikma | dont think it will be any usefull to keep it |
| 10:37.08 | mikma | after all, oracles have minipets |
| 10:37.08 | ZorbaTHut | there's some equipment, but I'd rather start rolling on the oracle mount |
| 10:38.13 | mikma | hmm |
| 10:38.29 | mikma | right, you cant use them if you arent revered |
| 10:38.56 | mikma | like dps plate gloves |
| 10:39.04 | ZorbaTHut | yeah |
| 10:39.20 | ZorbaTHut | and they have a nice exalted trinket |
| 10:40.02 | mikma | remind me with link |
| 10:40.18 | ZorbaTHut | http://www.wowwiki.com/Frenzyheart_Insignia_of_Fury |
| 10:41.38 | mikma | useless fvor dk =( |
| 10:43.06 | Codayus | Well, it's okay for farming. |
| 10:44.37 | ZorbaTHut | oh man. just soloed artuis with . . . 240 hit points left |
| 10:44.39 | ZorbaTHut | that was close |
| 10:44.53 | Codayus | And better than the oracle version. |
| 10:45.19 | ZorbaTHut | I actually prefer the oracle version quite a bit, but it doesn't seem as useful for Ds |
| 10:45.21 | ZorbaTHut | DKs |
| 10:45.34 | Codayus | Note that the proc is 91 crit rating, and stacks up to 5 times, so you can have a LOT of fun with AoE farming. :-) |
| 10:45.54 | ZorbaTHut | okay, that does sound pretty fun :) |
| 10:46.21 | Codayus | Well, Oracle version is crit rather than haste on the equip, which is better, but the proc is a flat 40 RP, which is nice, but I'd rather have crit rating. :-) |
| 10:46.36 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, whereas I'm a warrior and really want the HP/rage regeneration :) |
| 10:46.55 | ZorbaTHut | although the crit sounds quite good as well, I gotta say |
| 10:47.12 | Codayus | Mmm, yeah |
| 10:47.18 | ZorbaTHut | hello oracles I am your friend now! no I haven't been brutally murdering hundreds of you for the past week or two, why do you ask, <3 |
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| 12:02.10 | m3lin | hmm.. when I do a SetTexture out of the icon for the hearthstone, I sometimes get a blank texture (transparent and all) when first loading the game - I guess it hasnt loaded the texture yet or something - how can I prevent this? |
| 12:02.31 | zenzio | when are you calling SetTexture? |
| 12:03.07 | m3lin | I create a button (secured template) with lua (createframe("button" etc etc) - after Ive set size and position I call the texture |
| 12:03.39 | zenzio | well when do you do this? |
| 12:04.05 | m3lin | at the bottom of my lua file.. not in any function so when the addon is loaded I guess |
| 12:06.01 | zenzio | try registering PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD to your frame, and in the handler for that call SetTexture, see if that helps. Not sure if that's the right event, but generally I think it would work then |
| 12:07.23 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, if you do stuff before the game is actually loaded, it has a high chance of not working |
| 12:10.09 | m3lin | right - trying |
| 12:12.50 | m3lin | will show next time I reboot the game I guess, but it's not giving any errors atleast :P |
| 12:13.35 | WobWork | http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/331/7531/1498 |
| 12:25.08 | m3lin | is there anyway I can change the cursor when it's over a button? |
| 12:25.17 | m3lin | say I want the UseDoodad cog cursor instead |
| 12:26.31 | Arrowmaster | yes theres a setcursor function |
| 12:26.51 | Arrowmaster | nothing to get the current cursor texture though |
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| 12:33.33 | m3lin | ok |
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| 12:51.35 | zenzio | don't suppose anyone has any clue how to add CDATA to a child element in PHP's SimpleXML? |
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| 13:03.25 | fcrick | how+to+add+CDATA+to+a+child+element+in+PHP's+SimpleXML |
| 13:03.30 | fcrick | http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=how+to+add+CDATA+to+a+child+element+in+PHP%27s+SimpleXML |
| 13:10.50 | Mackatack | lol @ fcrick :P |
| 13:19.30 | zenzio | fcrick: thanks, but I sort of already tried all my GoogleFu :-p |
| 13:24.48 | fcrick | node->setCDATA('data') didn't work? |
| 13:25.08 | fcrick | that seemed so promising |
| 13:25.34 | m3lin | the WoW TGA textures are 16bit right? |
| 13:25.37 | fcrick | oh i guess that just sets in anner text node...what a bummer |
| 13:25.46 | zenzio | I was hoping to find something that was built into SimpleXML, not casting to a different type first |
| 13:26.19 | fcrick | well, imho your problem is using php...heheh |
| 13:26.23 | fcrick | that's so...90s |
| 13:26.57 | fcrick | i write all my websites in assembly, of course |
| 13:26.58 | zenzio | PHP is fine for a lot of things; even if it's not the best =) |
| 13:27.16 | m3lin | I write my websites in QBasic |
| 13:27.35 | fcrick | i've been using python for my little projects actually |
| 13:28.00 | fcrick | course AppEngine doesn't support anything else yet i think |
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| 13:39.22 | Nom- | I hate anything that calls itself SimpleXML or some close variant of it |
| 13:39.40 | Nom- | They always to try to over-simplify it, and in the process make a terribad library |
| 13:40.53 | Nom- | But then I much prefer strictly type structures bound to POJO's |
| 13:41.17 | Nom- | This create-on-the-fly stuff is just doomed to failure :) |
| 13:42.14 | Codayus | DOOMED |
| 13:46.45 | m3lin | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:47.40 | foxlit | You display a "Working, go away!" message |
| 13:47.53 | foxlit | About as much use |
| 13:48.05 | m3lin | or is there any addon out there that shapes my XP and Reputation bars in a more artistic way? |
| 13:49.19 | ZorbaTHut | what the fuck. I just bought http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44210 for 15g |
| 13:49.25 | ZorbaTHut | I can't decide if I want to resell it or disenchant it |
| 13:51.09 | m3lin | guys - is there a library addon that allows me to make a circular progressbar? some ace stuff or such? |
| 13:51.40 | Codayus | ZorbaTHut: That's....uh...wow. |
| 13:51.59 | Nom- | wtb faster apt mirror |
| 13:52.00 | Nom- | *sigh* |
| 13:52.28 | m3lin | ZorbaTHut got it for 15g? :P |
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| 13:52.39 | m3lin | sell it on an RP realm for 8k :D |
| 13:53.00 | Codayus | Hm, resell it for 30g, you'll make a 100% profit! |
| 13:53.06 | Codayus | ...less AH fees. |
| 13:53.44 | m3lin | thanks to some retard on our realm I can buy mats for 200g and then sell the item for 5-600g, cause he sells the same item for around 900g |
| 13:53.46 | ZorbaTHut | looks like it's losing its profession requirement in 3.0.8 |
| 13:56.06 | m3lin | so.. no library addon for creating progressbars with various forms? |
| 13:56.47 | procule | you shalt not steal |
| 13:57.05 | m3lin | procule - library addons are made to be used, thus a library.. |
| 13:57.20 | procule | oh i was not talking to you |
| 13:57.31 | m3lin | oh :D |
| 13:57.33 | m3lin | nvm me then :P |
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| 13:57.53 | procule | ;) |
| 13:58.02 | m3lin | hmm.. is it StatusBar Im looking for? |
| 13:58.13 | m3lin | createframe("statusbar") and then set a texture to it? |
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| 13:58.47 | procule | i think it's progress bar, but i'm not sure |
| 13:59.11 | m3lin | I'll try :P |
| 13:59.13 | procule | oh |
| 13:59.16 | procule | slider |
| 13:59.18 | procule | maybhe |
| 13:59.19 | procule | be |
| 13:59.39 | m3lin | nah slider is something else - a slider lets you drag a button back and forth to set a value between two fixed values |
| 14:00.10 | procule | so a slider slildes... |
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| 14:01.44 | Lunessa | Station! |
| 14:03.16 | procule | i wonder if Mary had sex after she had Jesus... |
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| 14:04.59 | m3lin | probably |
| 14:05.23 | m3lin | why shouldnt she? kids was a way of survival in that region of the world |
| 14:05.37 | m3lin | its even likely that jesus had kids of his own |
| 14:05.52 | ZorbaTHut | m3lin, if you're going to bring logic into it, then technically the answer to "I wonder if Mary had sex before she had Jesus" is "almost certainly" |
| 14:06.30 | Lunessa | The answer to " I wonder if X had sex" is usually "Of course." |
| 14:06.34 | procule | maybe she didnt want |
| 14:06.57 | ZorbaTHut | lunessa, unless you're talking about WoW players |
| 14:06.59 | ZorbaTHut | (burrrrrn) |
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| 14:07.14 | Lunessa | ZorbaTHut: Dry spell for you then? |
| 14:07.28 | ZorbaTHut | eh, off and on. I just can't resist the opportunity to make an easy joke. |
| 14:07.49 | Lunessa | And I couldn't resist the snarky reply. :) |
| 14:07.57 | ZorbaTHut | Fair 'nuff :) |
| 14:08.22 | procule | do you believe in the theory that Jesus was a woman and black ? |
| 14:08.23 | ZorbaTHut | I do have an amazing screenshot of a Google search for WoW yielding an ad along the lines of "Ashamed of being a virgin?" |
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| 14:09.15 | m3lin | :P well.. Im an odd player.. I have a gf and we have kids.. however.. my gf plays WoW aswell and our 3yr old kid is starting to getting the hang of WoW controls |
| 14:10.53 | procule | i would only have kids if the government pays me |
| 14:11.31 | procule | if everyone thinks like that, they won't have a choice to pay us |
| 14:11.45 | m3lin | in sweden they do.. |
| 14:12.04 | m3lin | you get a small 'mount of cash every month for each kid under 18 |
| 14:12.11 | procule | oh here too |
| 14:12.14 | procule | (canada) |
| 14:12.18 | procule | but i mean, really pay |
| 14:12.27 | m3lin | if more than 1 kid you get an extra amount and so on |
| 14:12.39 | procule | like "you get 100 000$ for a kid" |
| 14:12.51 | m3lin | ah :P |
| 14:12.57 | m3lin | a one time payment :P |
| 14:13.04 | procule | i would have multiple women |
| 14:13.10 | procule | a kid for each a year |
| 14:13.15 | procule | i would be rich... |
| 14:14.10 | Lunessa | procule: You're in the wrong channel for that. |
| 14:14.20 | procule | lol |
| 14:14.22 | Lunessa | If you came to rabble-rouse, GTFO |
| 14:14.29 | procule | sorry i just woke up |
| 14:14.32 | fcrick | try /join #politics |
| 14:14.42 | fcrick | you can talk about _anything_ in there |
| 14:16.51 | procule | again a foot of snow today... |
| 14:17.09 | procule | we won't be able to get out soon, it will be too dangerous |
| 14:17.25 | eliteevil | it's doing the lovely sleet/freezing rain thing outside here. |
| 14:17.36 | eliteevil | *and* my realm's the only one still down. |
| 14:17.41 | procule | mine is too |
| 14:18.08 | Taladris | Oh, more went down, and Medivh is still down. |
| 14:18.20 | Taladris | been down for... at least an hour now |
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| 14:44.26 | m3lin | whats the global for reputation color? |
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| 14:55.30 | Mackatack | FACTION_BAR_COLORS in ReputationFrame.lua perhaps? |
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| 15:05.07 | m3lin | whats the name of the quest- and gear-damage-doll frames? |
| 15:15.38 | Lunessa | Today is Moam on the Year of Fear calendar. "Moam senses your fear." |
| 15:16.06 | Lunessa | m3lin: wowcompares.com - they're children of the MiniMap - so check FrameXML. |
| 15:16.15 | Mackatack | m3lin: DurabilityFrame |
| 15:17.01 | m3lin | Mackatack is that the paperdoll or the quests aswell? |
| 15:17.05 | m3lin | Lunessa ok, thanks |
| 15:17.06 | Mackatack | m3lin: and QuestLogFrame |
| 15:17.11 | m3lin | ah |
| 15:17.31 | Mackatack | see QuestLogFrame.xml and DurabilityFrame.xml ;) |
| 15:21.58 | m3lin | thanks |
| 15:22.14 | m3lin | and great website :P thanks Lunessa |
| 15:22.36 | Lunessa | You're welcome. WoWCompares is the shiz-nit. |
| 15:23.28 | m3lin | trying to move the castbar, questframe and paperdoll :P |
| 15:23.48 | m3lin | and not install an entire addon with 200 functions just for those 3 |
| 15:24.46 | Olorin | does fluidframes not work, think that adds move ability to all frames |
| 15:26.19 | m3lin | I'll check it |
| 15:26.20 | m3lin | thanks |
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| 15:29.12 | procule | aah my realm is still down, 2 hours now :( |
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| 15:54.41 | m3lin | Olorin yea, it did the trick |
| 15:55.30 | Olorin | m3lin cool :) |
| 15:56.55 | m3lin | wonder if they ever will remove the hearthstone as an item and make it a spell instead |
| 15:57.25 | Olorin | does seem bit silly having as item |
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| 15:58.16 | m3lin | yup.. especially since you can delete it and just get a new from any inn-keeper again |
| 15:58.29 | zenzelezz | feeling any better today? |
| 15:58.54 | tlund | what alternatives are there to the curse client? it is horribly outdated, very buggy and the developers dont even seem to read tickets anymore :( |
| 15:59.26 | Lopeppeppy | The medicines are worse than the illness, honestly, but I'm getting there. Thanks, zenzelezz. |
| 15:59.58 | Shirik | :( |
| 16:00.00 | Lopeppeppy | tlund, there really *aren't* alternatives. The various "convenient download clients" are being worked on, but it takes time. |
| 16:00.00 | Shirik | what's wrong? |
| 16:00.09 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik: kidney infection |
| 16:00.12 | Shirik | yuck |
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| 16:00.20 | Lopeppeppy | Very yuk. |
| 16:00.55 | pb_ee1 | tlund: Wowmatrix |
| 16:01.03 | Shirik | Should I kick you now or later? |
| 16:01.25 | pb_ee1 | explain before kicking, and don't be so quick to go on the nerves |
| 16:01.33 | Shirik | Wowmatrix is bad. Very bad. |
| 16:01.54 | pb_ee1 | That's obvious, and a well-thought demonstration of its badness indeed |
| 16:02.01 | Shirik | Depending on the country in question, the program may be illegal. |
| 16:02.15 | Shirik | It steals bandwidth without appropriate sourcing and violates author copyright |
| 16:02.32 | pb_ee1 | How come? |
| 16:02.45 | tlund | Shirik: how is wowmatrix different from -- firefox? |
| 16:03.14 | pb_ee1 | yeah, i don't see the problem at the moment, but you may have some sincere explanations so I'm listening |
| 16:03.19 | Shirik | because that's what it does. It connects to wowinterface/etc. to download these files without permission and essentially floods the servers. To the point where the majority of the time during the 3.0 patch was not spent trying to keep the server up, but rather keeping wowmatrix from killing the server. |
| 16:03.37 | Shirik | To top it off, wowmatrix denies the revenue from these sites |
| 16:03.37 | Lopeppeppy | pb_ee1, don't taunt the moderators. That's your first rule. |
| 16:03.45 | tlund | Shirik: it downloads addons without permission? i dont have permission to download the mods? |
| 16:03.46 | Shirik | thereby leeching from these sites for its own personal gain |
| 16:04.00 | pb_ee1 | Shirik: I can't disagree with that |
| 16:04.05 | Shirik | tlund: Firefox is how the site was intended to be viewed. The most important part is that firefox can view ads |
| 16:04.17 | Shirik | That is, the sites still can maintain themselves |
| 16:04.29 | pb_ee1 | Lopeppeppy: i'm not taunting anyone |
| 16:04.32 | Shirik | whereas if wowmatrix was used by everyone, the sites would not be able to support themselves and shut down |
| 16:05.04 | pb_ee1 | Shirik is right on this: it is not correct, and may not be legal to download from sites without VIEWING them |
| 16:05.21 | pb_ee1 | since these sites may only be supported by ads |
| 16:05.51 | pb_ee1 | firefox does not let download them easily without viewing the site |
| 16:06.42 | Lopeppeppy | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18358&highlight=wowmatrix -- read it and then come back for discussion. |
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| 16:06.43 | Shirik | Fact of the matter is that the wowmatrix application falls under the "bandwidth theft" category which is under debate on legality |
| 16:06.43 | Shirik | IANAL and all that junk |
| 16:07.21 | pb_ee1 | Lopeppeppy: thanks for the link |
| 16:07.48 | pb_ee1 | Ho and btw, if so many people use wowmatrix, it's not because it's the best one on the web atm |
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| 16:08.07 | Lopeppeppy | Morning cog-dear. |
| 16:08.16 | pb_ee1 | it's just it's one of the only one not too much bugged and usable out there ;) |
| 16:08.31 | nevcairiel | there are other updaters |
| 16:08.40 | nevcairiel | people are just too lazy to look for one |
| 16:08.44 | Shirik | well |
| 16:09.08 | Shirik | wowi's client could theoretically be as capable, if not more capable, than wowmatrix, depending on whether or not the modularity support is adopted by the community |
| 16:09.10 | tlund | nevcairiel: i am here, looking for one. do you have a pointer to share? |
| 16:09.26 | Shirik | I won't be writing modules for curse, etc., though, as I do not wish to get involved in a war with them |
| 16:09.31 | Shirik | if someone else wants to, I won't stop them |
| 16:10.01 | pb_ee1 | i'd like to, but i've got no time |
| 16:10.10 | pb_ee1 | and i really appreciate the efforts of the persons that do it |
| 16:10.39 | tlund | all i want is for the cursedownloader to actually start working |
| 16:10.42 | pb_ee1 | but i need a simple way to update the addons and the curse client couldn't just at all fit my needs unfortunately |
| 16:10.51 | tlund | no one has even touched tickets for over a month :( |
| 16:10.52 | pb_ee1 | yeah, as tlund said, it's way too much bugged |
| 16:10.53 | Syzgyn | How goes the new updater anyway Shirik? |
| 16:11.28 | nevcairiel | tlund: did you try the 2.1 alpha versions of the updater? if not, wait for the 2.1 final :P |
| 16:11.45 | Shirik | Syzgyn: Well; It's nearing alpha, I only have one knot I need to untie |
| 16:11.52 | tlund | nevcairiel: 2.1 or 2.0.1? |
| 16:11.52 | Syzgyn | Oh yea? |
| 16:11.58 | nevcairiel | 2.1 |
| 16:12.00 | nevcairiel | not 2.0.1 |
| 16:12.08 | tlund | no, whats the URL? |
| 16:12.38 | nevcairiel | i dunno |
| 16:12.40 | tlund | i do want to try it, it cant be worse than what i have now, it only found ~15 of my 100+ addons when i had to reinstall XP :( |
| 16:13.02 | tlund | if someone IS working on the downloader, it would be nice if the ack:ed tickets also :( |
| 16:13.30 | nevcairiel | its pointless to respond to tickets regarding the old updater if they write a completly new one |
| 16:14.21 | Shirik | I'm ignoring my tickets on the old updater too |
| 16:14.55 | Shirik | If people ignore the big huge notice "This program is End-of-life and not supported; wait for the new version" then they won't care to see my response to the ticket either |
| 16:14.59 | pb_ee1 | But jWU wasn't doing the same errors on its time or did the authors have the authorization of curse, wowinterface and/or wowace? |
| 16:15.30 | pb_ee1 | to download directly from the websites, i meant |
| 16:15.52 | nevcairiel | at least it didnt go and make money of it |
| 16:15.58 | Shirik | As far as I understand, jWU makes no attempt to make money off of its gains |
| 16:16.09 | Shirik | s/gains/use/ |
| 16:16.49 | Shirik | ack |
| 16:16.51 | Lopeppeppy | And comparing jWU to another downloader is apples to oranges... yes, they're both fruit, but the insides are different. Yes, they're both programs, but they aren't the same code. |
| 16:16.52 | Shirik | power fluctuations :( |
| 16:18.17 | pastamancer | jwu doesn't go to ridiculous lenghts to prevent sites from being able to block its traffic |
| 16:19.11 | nevcairiel | The fact alone that WoWMatrix client fakes its user agent to be a common browser is already indication of their shady doings |
| 16:20.36 | matt1s | Isn't there a webpage somewhere you can tell it that defense is the primary stat you are looking for, along with plate, sta, str etc and then it shows all items matching your search criteria and where to get them? |
| 16:20.40 | pastamancer | random common browser... it's eifferent every time you run it |
| 16:21.45 | Lopeppeppy | If you have to obfuscate and lie about your visit, you're not being above board. |
| 16:21.51 | matt1s | doesn't it just use curl? |
| 16:22.38 | tlund | nevcairiel: uuh, curse updater is discontinued and someone started over from scratch?! |
| 16:23.25 | nevcairiel | not completly from scratch, some stuff was reused, but not alot |
| 16:23.57 | tlund | nevcairiel: any pointers to where i can find more info, and perhaps even a beta/alpha/whatever of this rewrite? |
| 16:24.09 | tlund | nevcairiel: the current version is 100% useless to me right now :( |
| 16:24.15 | nevcairiel | slap Kaelten|away until he tells you |
| 16:24.27 | nevcairiel | but he is mighty busy |
| 16:24.58 | riveth | is there a list of keys that wow can see? e.g. the list from OnKeyDown/OnKeyUp? |
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| 16:36.56 | Shirik | Not bad |
| 16:37.02 | Shirik | we got a new priest last night for raiding |
| 16:37.07 | Shirik | he beat everyone except me on the healing meters |
| 16:37.12 | Lopeppeppy | Neat. Priesties are crunchy in milk. |
| 16:37.14 | Shirik | Granted, I beat him by 1.3 million |
| 16:37.22 | Shirik | but he still beat everyone else |
| 16:37.44 | zenzelezz | "1.3 million" is pointless to say if you don't give any reference values |
| 16:38.43 | Shirik | um |
| 16:38.49 | Shirik | 1.3 million, I totaled 6.5 million |
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| 16:41.20 | Shirik | here |
| 16:41.22 | Shirik | this is my favorite part |
| 16:41.35 | Shirik | 20:06'19.625Kimina gains Spirit of Redemption. |
| 16:42.24 | Shirik | 20:07'32.359Kimina's Spirit of Redemption is refreshed. |
| 16:42.29 | Shirik | still going |
| 16:42.45 | Shirik | it doesn't say when it falls off |
| 16:42.48 | Shirik | I assume about 5s after that |
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| 17:07.10 | Lopeppeppy | Hi hi Jelly-dear. |
| 17:07.22 | |Jelly| | Hey Peppy! |
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| 17:09.10 | mikma | shirik: ok you here now? :) |
| 17:09.16 | Shirik | rawr |
| 17:09.22 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 17:10.31 | mikma | shirik: what do you think about addons that have "nasty" code in them? |
| 17:10.37 | Shirik | that is bad |
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| 17:10.44 | mikma | shirik: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12147-WinterTime.html#info -> WinterTime.lua -> row 188 |
| 17:11.11 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr |
| 17:11.14 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 17:11.16 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 17:11.23 | nevcairiel | dont work for horde on his realm =P |
| 17:11.25 | nevcairiel | what an ass |
| 17:11.28 | Lopeppeppy | ~huggle Gryphen. |
| 17:11.39 | mikma | nevcairiel: bingo :P |
| 17:12.26 | Shirik | Is it obfuscated? |
| 17:12.30 | nevcairiel | no |
| 17:12.41 | nevcairiel | it just disables itself for horde players on his realm |
| 17:12.53 | Hirsute | 0.o |
| 17:12.58 | Hirsute | That's... some kind of funny. |
| 17:13.53 | m3lin | what app is best to use to check all icon textures with? |
| 17:15.03 | cog|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:15.06 | cog|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:15.08 | cog|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:15.11 | cog|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:15.57 | mikma | he's a dude on Alliance in US-Dethecus |
| 17:16.34 | mikma | tek noticed the addon and told me to suggest him a shared way of broadcasting data so the addons would work together |
| 17:16.47 | mikma | i did, until i noticed that part in the code -> deleted my comment |
| 17:16.58 | zenzelezz | amg cog... pastey!! ;-o |
| 17:17.05 | Hirsute | What a putz. |
| 17:17.07 | mikma | lawl |
| 17:17.12 | Hirsute | The dude, not you. |
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| 17:18.53 | cog|work | zenzelezz: only 4 lines! :P |
| 17:20.51 | nevcairiel | I should write a LibBlackList, include it in all addons i have, and blacklist people from using it :D |
| 17:21.04 | zenzelezz | cog|work: we always say "> 3 lines" ;-) |
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| 17:21.34 | cog|work | nevcairiel: LibKnownAsshats imo |
| 17:21.34 | nevcairiel | he has a +, he gets one more line |
| 17:21.46 | mikma | nevcairiel: that would be hot, really. |
| 17:22.15 | Hirsute | That's what the + means.... |
| 17:22.18 | nevcairiel | for maximum coverage, i do have access to Ace2 and Ace3 |
| 17:22.19 | mikma | "here is a list of addons that will disable my addons." |
| 17:22.35 | Hirsute | And @ means "Infinite scrolling privileges" |
| 17:22.52 | foxlit | cog|work: clearly need to check the realmList CVar too |
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| 17:23.13 | nevcairiel | I doubt he cares if he accidentally blacklists a EU server |
| 17:24.17 | Hirsute | What a putz. I mean, just... wow. That's really funny. |
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| 17:26.47 | mikma | my wife told me that dude is prolly the master of twinks |
| 17:27.13 | mikma | usually people who suck as max-lvl pvp roll a twink |
| 17:28.26 | Hirsute | <--Sucks at any level PvP, so he plays on a PvE server and pretends PvP doesn't exist as much as possible. |
| 17:30.01 | mikma | it's another form of art, that's why it's not easy |
| 17:30.14 | mikma | you need to play and play and play before you are good in it :I |
| 17:30.23 | nevcairiel | pvp in 3.0 is a joke, anyway |
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| 17:30.25 | mikma | and that means you also get gear for pvp |
| 17:30.44 | mikma | yeah. retardins 2 shotting rogues |
| 17:30.53 | mikma | rogues stunlocking everyone to death |
| 17:31.20 | Hirsute | Meh, it makes me too angry when my PvE fun get's stomped on because it doesn't work well in PvP. I prefer just to ignore PvP. |
| 17:31.36 | Lopeppeppy | I just do what I'm best at, happy fun time. |
| 17:31.48 | mikma | well, currently pve gear is damn imba in pvp |
| 17:31.56 | nevcairiel | I mostly dont do anything in wow anymore besides writing addons |
| 17:32.00 | mikma | sure they are squishy too but they really hurt |
| 17:32.21 | Hirsute | And thus comes the nerf to PvE because something's broken in PvP. |
| 17:32.30 | Hirsute | >:( |
| 17:32.51 | mikma | thats true |
| 17:32.57 | mikma | retardins witnessed this |
| 17:33.03 | mikma | still they hurt like hell |
| 17:33.26 | mikma | my friend just two-shotted a rogue in arena |
| 17:33.48 | nevcairiel | I just started a paladin for shit and giggles, i'm blazing lvl 3 |
| 17:33.55 | Hirsute | I'm sure, and I understand the difficulty here. Trying to have two completely different and separate types of gaming balanced at the same time.... |
| 17:33.56 | mikma | i was like "wtf, that rogue died" when he hit him. from full to 0 in two "hits" (almost insta) |
| 17:34.02 | nevcairiel | I mostly needed a new char to write addons on and where noone knows me |
| 17:34.12 | Hirsute | Heh |
| 17:34.19 | Hirsute | coding in anonymity ftw. |
| 17:34.20 | mikma | nevcairiel: lol. i usually park my main in some mountain |
| 17:34.45 | Anaral | What is making my scroll_it code move the minimap frame? http://www.pastey.net/105759 |
| 17:34.46 | Hirsute | Doesn't work for me. For most of the stuff I work on, I need to be in a major city. |
| 17:34.52 | Hirsute | In the old world. |
| 17:35.03 | nevcairiel | I could care less _where_ i'm actually at |
| 17:35.06 | mikma | WGT was exception too |
| 17:35.13 | mikma | i needed to be in front of the wg npc |
| 17:35.16 | nevcairiel | problem is people whispering me, expecting me to come to raids |
| 17:35.17 | nevcairiel | etc |
| 17:35.24 | mikma | and got invited into a wg raid all the time haha |
| 17:35.26 | Hirsute | *nod* |
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| 17:36.09 | Hirsute | I just throw up the DND flag and let my guild know that I'm burying myself in code, usually. |
| 17:36.16 | mikma | anyone tested Zygor's leveling guide? :) |
| 17:36.26 | Lopeppeppy | Nevcariel, just do a rename. |
| 17:36.37 | nevcairiel | Hirsute: my guild goes all ape if i want to skip a raid =P |
| 17:36.45 | Hirsute | Aaah |
| 17:37.02 | nevcairiel | but seriously, once i have a idea in my head, i suck at playing anyway |
| 17:37.07 | nevcairiel | because i need to code it |
| 17:37.22 | Hirsute | Yeah, my guild likes to raid, and is trying to get more serious about it, but they generally leave me alone, as we happen to be lousy with tanks and hunters right now, and that's generally what I play. |
| 17:37.32 | m3lin | how I check if my char is currently channeling the hearthstone? |
| 17:37.48 | nevcairiel | m3lin: UnitCastingInfo maybe? |
| 17:37.54 | nevcairiel | ~api UnitCastingInfo |
| 17:37.54 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitCastingInfo |
| 17:38.14 | nevcairiel | not sure if it works for hearthstones |
| 17:38.17 | nevcairiel | but probably will |
| 17:38.41 | foxlit | It should. |
| 17:40.46 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/punch_owned.jpg <- lolz |
| 17:40.57 | m3lin | meh.. I searched for casting - must be blind |
| 17:41.36 | mikma | cairenn|afk: http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/awwwww_cat.jpg |
| 17:42.18 | mikma | hahaa, nasty http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/ears2.jpg |
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| 17:43.34 | nevcairiel | thats awful |
| 17:43.59 | mikma | yes, cats are awful |
| 17:44.00 | m3lin | UNitCastingInfo worked for hearthstone |
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| 17:44.21 | mikma | ok, here's a oldie! http://kuvaton.com/bshit/browsers.jpg <- but the last line last image + caption = nevcairiel |
| 17:44.49 | p3lim | What is Gist Github? |
| 17:44.56 | p3lim | I know what Github is, but gist? |
| 17:44.59 | mikma | nothing you care of |
| 17:45.31 | Lopeppeppy | mikma is a bad ma |
| 17:45.35 | nevcairiel | some pastey service |
| 17:46.15 | mikma | lopeppeppy: i am? no, nevcairiel is! he's german and all the weird porn comes from german! trust me, i have seen! |
| 17:46.38 | nevcairiel | you watch german porn? you sick bastard |
| 17:46.40 | mikma | s/i have seen/i have been told ;) / |
| 17:46.47 | nevcairiel | yeah .. sure.. :P |
| 17:46.51 | mikma | hihi |
| 17:47.39 | mikma | only when i want to feel nausea and be turned on |
| 17:50.38 | mikma | official 3.0.8 patch notes -> http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=33198.0 |
| 17:50.49 | nevcairiel | you're late, mikma |
| 17:50.59 | mikma | sorry honey |
| 17:51.01 | mikma | i was sleeping |
| 17:51.08 | p3lim | mikma: the 2nd answer was the one I was looking for, the 1st one you could have kept for youself |
| 17:51.18 | p3lim | s/youself/yourself |
| 17:51.33 | mikma | p3lim: well i knew you are gonna start harassing the site if someone told you |
| 17:51.48 | p3lim | that someone is you |
| 17:51.58 | mikma | i didn't tell you |
| 17:52.42 | p3lim | yes you did |
| 17:52.53 | p3lim | ow wait |
| 17:53.03 | p3lim | nevcairiel: thanks for the answer |
| 17:53.22 | mikma | Glyph of Death Decay has been changed to grant 20% additional damage instead of its current effect. |
| 17:53.26 | mikma | NOOOOOOOOOOOO! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! |
| 17:53.38 | foxlit | Yes! |
| 17:53.41 | p3lim | hah no more aoe stuns |
| 17:54.05 | mikma | imho it's a great penallty for being stupid and fighting over AoE |
| 17:55.52 | mikma | Dancing Rune Blade: The weapon no longer echoes the Raise Dead and Army of the Dead spells. In addition it will now more closely match the master?s damage and will cast Rune Strike when its master does. |
| 17:57.27 | mikma | Arena: Dalaran Sewer: The Flush effect which pushes players out will now also remove the ability to use Demonic Circles summoned during the arena start time. |
| 17:57.31 | mikma | damn people are smart |
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| 17:57.57 | Lopeppeppy | People are friggin' stupid. Ya. |
| 17:58.23 | mikma | good thing we are not talking about same thing tho |
| 17:58.30 | Cairenn|afk | mikma: awwww |
| 17:58.37 | AbsolutRayne | Mining veins and deposits no longer require multiple hits to receive all the ore. Players will receive around the same amount of ore, stone, and gems they would have received from multiple hits. |
| 18:00.06 | AbsolutRayne | Hi, WoW isnt easy enough yet, please make it easier. |
| 18:00.13 | cog|work | NO U |
| 18:00.30 | mikma | that's one of the most annoying things as gatherer :I |
| 18:00.43 | Cide | I don't see how that has to do with difficulty at all |
| 18:00.48 | Hirsute | AbsolutRayne: Seriously? *cheer* |
| 18:00.59 | Hirsute | It has to do with time. |
| 18:01.05 | Hirsute | And ninja-ability. |
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| 18:01.37 | Seerah | mining change is a good thing, imo ;) |
| 18:01.41 | AbsolutRayne | You have to take the time to make something, what a sin. :/ |
| 18:01.53 | cog|work | AbsolutRayne: what about herbalists? |
| 18:01.58 | cog|work | they get it all at once... |
| 18:02.26 | cog|work | the only bad thing about this change is that you can't share nodes with people in your group to share the skillups |
| 18:02.30 | Seerah | you know which change made me frown? That druids can train aquatic form at lvl 16 :( |
| 18:02.37 | Hirsute | As do skinners. |
| 18:03.01 | Hirsute | Seerah: No more big quest for aquatic form? |
| 18:03.02 | Seerah | oh... skillups.... now you'll only get one skillup per node instead of 3+... |
| 18:03.05 | Seerah | *nod* |
| 18:03.06 | durcyn | there was a 'feature' where you could tag team a mining node back and forth, and get infinite skillups, did they ever fix that? |
| 18:03.20 | cog|work | Seerah: you never got more than one from the same node |
| 18:03.36 | mikma | i was able to |
| 18:03.37 | cog|work | but multiple people could get skillups from the same one |
| 18:03.43 | mikma | with 3min+ pause after each mining |
| 18:03.56 | cog|work | yeah, then it's a different node |
| 18:04.00 | Seerah | what game have I been playing? :P |
| 18:04.02 | cog|work | i'm pretty sure the contents respawn |
| 18:04.07 | alestane | Does it not work to open something without looting it? You should still be able to share, just not to hit repeatedly. |
| 18:04.19 | End | Hm |
| 18:04.21 | cog|work | alestane: that might be |
| 18:04.46 | cog|work | i haven't mined without autoloot since autoloot was implemented... |
| 18:04.59 | AbsolutRayne | I honestly just dont see the point for it. Its like they want this game to be easy, and its just getting weak now. Basically now what I oddly considered Fun because I had to compete to get something i wanted, whether it be gold or a new piece of gear, I know have to deal with more. |
| 18:05.07 | cog|work | AbsolutRayne: consistency, imo |
| 18:05.21 | AbsolutRayne | Then again, I may be on the only server where people actually arent general assholes about farming, unless on the opposite faction |
| 18:05.31 | Seerah | ^^^ |
| 18:05.58 | alestane | I don't see any reason why it was a critical change, but I don't see any reason why it's a bad one, either. |
| 18:06.16 | alestane | I also don't see it in the public patch notes, although it might be on the PTR forum. |
| 18:06.16 | mikma | REMINDER! http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/january/gamemasters.jpg |
| 18:07.28 | AbsolutRayne | mikma: Oh my god! I was so easily fooled by that talking Bunny :( |
| 18:07.38 | mikma | absolutrayne: oh, me too. me too. |
| 18:07.58 | AbsolutRayne | I gave him all my golds too :( |
| 18:08.01 | durcyn | gamemasters should appear on the palyer's screen as a talking paperclip. |
| 18:08.03 | durcyn | player* |
| 18:08.29 | mikma | "Hi there! I see you are exploring! Would you like me to ban you?" |
| 18:09.12 | End | Shut |
| 18:09.13 | End | er |
| 18:09.14 | End | Whut |
| 18:09.16 | AbsolutRayne | XD |
| 18:09.27 | End | They put priest and DK bug fixes in the warlock section |
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| 18:13.06 | AbsolutRayne | Heroic Throw no longer triggers the snare from Mage Frost Armor. That was such a fun bug |
| 18:13.06 | AbsolutRayne | :( |
| 18:14.32 | mikma | fun bug for mages |
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| 18:16.12 | AbsolutRayne | They repossessed my Dreadsteed, Hogswarth :( |
| 18:20.49 | ZealotOnAStick | how did they repossess it? |
| 18:28.25 | |Jelly| | http://www.pastey.net/105762 <-- What am I doing wrong? :( |
| 18:28.37 | Lunessa | The chimpanzee market could be huge. |
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| 18:31.40 | alestane | |Jelly|: Is something else using ADDONNAME for slashes? |
| 18:32.03 | Lunessa | I was going to ask the same thing. |
| 18:32.06 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, you're so weird. |
| 18:32.06 | alestane | And is anything actually calling EN_OnLoad()? |
| 18:32.22 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: That's why you keep coming back, right? |
| 18:32.27 | |Jelly| | Yes, on both accounts. |
| 18:32.59 | |Jelly| | What can I change ADDONNAME to? |
| 18:33.14 | Lopeppeppy | ENX? |
| 18:33.28 | nevcairiel | anything, really. a capitalized shortcut of your addon |
| 18:33.49 | alestane | Doesn't event actually have to be capitalized, just is by conention. |
| 18:34.25 | nevcairiel | On another topic, anyone know Oberon (the programming language)? |
| 18:34.47 | Hirsute | I was going to say, "Yes!" when I thought you were talking about the fairy king. |
| 18:35.46 | |Jelly| | When I change it to ENX, it doesn't work again. |
| 18:35.48 | Lopeppeppy | Don't pick on poor sick girl! *cries* |
| 18:36.02 | |Jelly| | nevermind. i'm stupid. |
| 18:36.20 | Lopeppeppy | What was wrong, Jelly? *is trying to learn* |
| 18:36.41 | |Jelly| | I changed the first ADDONNAME but not the other two. |
| 18:36.59 | |Jelly| | So now ... we're back in business. |
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| 18:38.02 | Lopeppeppy | Whee. |
| 18:38.10 | alestane | Whee? |
| 18:38.25 | Lopeppeppy | Jelly's addon worketh now. |
| 18:38.32 | alestane | Ah. Excellent. |
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| 18:40.44 | |Jelly| | Yeah. I turned down the Suck Knob and sure enough. Thanks Alestane, Peppy and Lunessa <3 |
| 18:41.51 | alestane | Well, I have just spent several hours porting an old BASIC game into Lua. It works, and it's much easier to understand, but it doesn't change the fact that the game kind of sucks. |
| 18:41.57 | Lopeppeppy | I didn't helped! But thank you for making me feel like I did. |
| 18:42.03 | Lunessa | Crank the Suck Knob down to zero, thanks. |
| 18:42.45 | |Jelly| | Mine generally hovers around 5, it seems |
| 18:42.56 | Shirik | I usually keep mine up around 8 |
| 18:42.58 | foxlit | out of 5? |
| 18:43.09 | Shirik | out of 5 |
| 18:43.16 | |Jelly| | Mine goes up to 11 |
| 18:43.25 | foxlit | So that's what, black hole level of suckiness? |
| 18:43.30 | Shirik | yes |
| 18:43.51 | foxlit | And yet you're still here. |
| 18:44.05 | Torhal | I think he _is_ here. |
| 18:44.38 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, cranking down the knob has side effects. Just sayin'. |
| 18:44.51 | Shirik | Less suck is not always a good thing |
| 18:45.14 | Lopeppeppy | Exactly |
| 18:45.21 | Lopeppeppy | I'd expect boys to be right on top of that concept. |
| 18:45.50 | alestane | "Suck, Cynthia, suck! 'Blow' is just a figure of speech!" |
| 18:45.56 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: To quote Butthead, "What we need are chicks who don't suck. ... Uh, waitaminit... " |
| 18:46.32 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah. |
| 18:46.35 | ScytheBlade1 | alestane: what game? |
| 18:46.46 | alestane | I do not remember the source of that quotation. |
| 18:47.20 | alestane | Or rather, the attribution. I got the quote from a book of quotes on the subject of sex. |
| 18:49.11 | Lopeppeppy | People drop huge chunks of IQ whenever they interact with retail environments. Proven fact. |
| 18:49.53 | procule | can you change the background color of a button ? like change the red to green ? |
| 18:50.36 | cog|work | setvertexcolor? or use a different texture |
| 18:51.20 | foxlit | SetBackdropColor would probably be more interesting |
| 18:51.24 | foxlit | Then again, depends on the button |
| 18:52.02 | procule | ok i will look for it, just wanted to know if it was possible instead of searching for nothing ;) |
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| 18:58.58 | AbsolutRayne | Friiiiick |
| 18:59.15 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: Make me stop dawdling and upload my UI |
| 18:59.52 | Lopeppeppy | AbsolutRayne. Go upload your UI **NOW**. Rawr. Or Peppy will bite! |
| 19:00.03 | ZealotOnAStick | Is that really discouraging? |
| 19:00.11 | Lopeppeppy | ... not that I'm at home to download it, but you said! You pwomist! |
| 19:00.28 | Lopeppeppy | AbsolutRayne is not normally eligible to be savaged by dinosaurs, ZealotOnAStick. |
| 19:00.31 | AbsolutRayne | D: |
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| 19:01.24 | AbsolutRayne | People are going to bitch about the castbar on this one, but I dont care |
| 19:01.26 | AbsolutRayne | lol |
| 19:01.41 | ZealotOnAStick | Put that in the change notes. |
| 19:01.49 | Lopeppeppy | What castbar is for bitching about? |
| 19:02.41 | |Jelly| | BTW, I'm glad to say that I've contributed to the warlock community in a positive way. I love all you warlocks! |
| 19:02.54 | alestane | What is this contribution? |
| 19:03.11 | |Jelly| | Your ability to make every healer hate your guts. |
| 19:03.18 | |Jelly| | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12148-LifeTapSpam.html |
| 19:03.45 | AbsolutRayne | |Jelly|: What have you done?! |
| 19:03.48 | NightHawkTheSane | |Jelly|: that addon is a fast track to /ignore and never being healed again. |
| 19:03.50 | AbsolutRayne | Youve created a monster!!! |
| 19:03.52 | m3lin | how do I make my own action buttons to show the proper tooltip (they contain spells) |
| 19:04.11 | ZealotOnAStick | Hmm. |
| 19:04.15 | ZealotOnAStick | You know what I miss? |
| 19:04.23 | alestane | |Jelly|: Funny, I'm always telling my healers NOT to heal me so much, I'm just lifetapping ferlegionssake. |
| 19:04.46 | End | lol |
| 19:05.09 | ZealotOnAStick | Before WoW 2.0, there was a teensy addon that I could bind to a key, and it'd use max rank tap until my health got below the amount it would use, then reduced the rank for me to the next one below my current health. |
| 19:05.22 | ZealotOnAStick | so you could tap down as close to 0 as possible before hellfiring. |
| 19:05.33 | NightHawkTheSane | alestane: i actually tell my locks they're free to tap when i'm not pressed for time/mana, and i'll toss em a heal. But there's a huge difference between that, and being told "heal me, i'm tapping" :p |
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| 19:05.45 | |Jelly| | Remember, Remember the fifth of December; The day all the addons were shot. :P |
| 19:05.47 | Lopeppeppy | My response to that is "die for tapping" |
| 19:06.00 | AbsolutRayne | Uploading, one second |
| 19:06.28 | ZealotOnAStick | The whole no-programmatic changes crap killed that addon. I miss it. I don't know a good workaround method though that doesn't involve multiple buttons. |
| 19:06.33 | |Jelly| | Trust me, that spam is so much less than my ... other ... monster. |
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| 19:06.38 | |Jelly| | AMIRITE Lunessa?! |
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| 19:06.59 | ZealotOnAStick | whatsyerother? |
| 19:07.02 | Lopeppeppy | Pineapple bumblebee tunafish! |
| 19:07.11 | |Jelly| | It spams Naxx fights. |
| 19:07.22 | |Jelly| | I get tired of, you know, telling people what to do on vent. |
| 19:07.29 | Lopeppeppy | Is for awesome. |
| 19:08.04 | Lunessa | ZOMG JELLY IS KING OF SPAM ADDONS. bitch. |
| 19:08.04 | AbsolutRayne | Upload rate on this ISP is so bad |
| 19:08.06 | |Jelly| | For now, it's mainly copy pasta from WoW Wiki Naxx 10 but I'm making it so that it'll whisper tanks what they're supposed to do, healers, dps, etc. |
| 19:08.06 | AbsolutRayne | :/ |
| 19:08.08 | NeoTron | we wiped on Noth last night... people forgot to decurse. It was actually kind of amusing |
| 19:08.17 | Lopeppeppy | ...forgot |
| 19:08.18 | Torhal | ZealotOnAStick: Macro-switching? |
| 19:08.18 | End | NeoTron: kind of? |
| 19:08.23 | End | more like completely hilarious |
| 19:08.25 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: ... o_0 |
| 19:08.39 | NeoTron | "now we're alive... now we're dead" |
| 19:08.39 | End | the curse is so trivial in 10man I only mentioned in 25man offhand |
| 19:08.48 | End | and it obliterated us |
| 19:09.01 | NeoTron | it was our first full 25-man naxx raid... and in 10-man the curse isn't really noticed |
| 19:09.26 | NightHawkTheSane | it's only not trivial if your decursers are retarded, or you only have like.. 2 |
| 19:09.27 | |Jelly| | http://www.pastey.net/105764 |
| 19:09.32 | NeoTron | I am guessing that mages primarily tried to DPS in the first attempt, forgetting about that all so important ability |
| 19:09.35 | ZealotOnAStick | Torhal : IIRC, macro-switching only works out of combat. |
| 19:09.44 | End | it has to get decursed |
| 19:09.48 | Torhal | Ah, yah. D'oh. |
| 19:09.49 | NeoTron | a 10-man must be able to function without decursing too |
| 19:09.53 | End | whereas in 10 you can survive without it |
| 19:09.59 | NeoTron | since you can't guarangtee a mage/resto shaman/druid in a 10-man |
| 19:10.20 | NightHawkTheSane | can you actually survive it in the 10 man? |
| 19:10.24 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: http://hdimage.org/images/xz2u7sj55xuaqultwlx_earth1.jpg Not casting || http://hdimage.org/images/5aqvtx3c5f3sgc1ngasu_hearth2.jpg Casting |
| 19:10.29 | NightHawkTheSane | (as a resto shaman, it's never been an issue for me :p) |
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| 19:10.43 | NeoTron | NightHawkTheSane: yeah you can |
| 19:10.53 | NeoTron | it does damage but doesn't instagib the raid. |
| 19:11.04 | NeoTron | one reason I like 25-mans better |
| 19:11.05 | NightHawkTheSane | interesting |
| 19:11.31 | NightHawkTheSane | one of these days i might just let the curse explode on 10 man, so i have something to -do- |
| 19:11.33 | Lunessa | PixelFonts make baby jesus cry. |
| 19:12.07 | Lopeppeppy | Why are they going to bitch that the cast bar only shows when casting? dur. |
| 19:12.39 | AbsolutRayne | Knowing people, and the insanely retarded emails I get, theyll say 'oh its misaligned outside the gradient how do I fix it? |
| 19:13.02 | AbsolutRayne | Ill file them next to the recolor it to grey / blue file |
| 19:13.48 | Lopeppeppy | "You fix it by uninstalling the UI or by doing it yourself. Bite me. I make it, I don't customize it to your every whim." |
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| 19:14.48 | ZealotOnAStick | "If you want an absolutely custom UI all of your own, make it your damn self instead of being lazy and using mine" |
| 19:15.09 | AbsolutRayne | I dont even use a castbar as a tank -__ |
| 19:15.10 | ZealotOnAStick | is what I'd go with. |
| 19:15.11 | Dashkal | Much as I liked the ability to trade mining hits for skillups, I'm going to love this change thanks to icecrown |
| 19:15.17 | AbsolutRayne | ive honestly considered just turning it off |
| 19:15.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Dashkal: wha? |
| 19:15.38 | Dashkal | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:15.46 | ZorbaTHut | whoa, crazy |
| 19:15.56 | Dashkal | new patch notes: http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php |
| 19:16.16 | ZorbaTHut | is it just me, or has blizzard been going back and eliminating some of the more idiotic classic design decisions? |
| 19:16.22 | Dashkal | I might have a node vanish as I approach, but no more "that node is already in use" in icecrown |
| 19:16.22 | ZorbaTHut | now if only they'd get rid of weapon skills |
| 19:16.27 | Dashkal | ^^^^ |
| 19:16.54 | AbsolutRayne | They should just make it so Nodes are tapped, theyre only tapped to you so people cant take them |
| 19:16.57 | AbsolutRayne | Makes more sense, sorry. |
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| 19:18.05 | Dashkal | they'd also have to code in a timeout on that tap. Much simpler solution this |
| 19:18.20 | NightHawkTheSane | they're not mutually exclusive, though :p |
| 19:18.40 | ZorbaTHut | they could also set it up so that, like every other resource gatherer in the game, it doesn't take 30 seconds to completely exhaust a node |
| 19:18.56 | Dashkal | which is what they did. one cast, get ore, move on |
| 19:19.05 | ZorbaTHut | exactly :D |
| 19:19.07 | Lunessa | Dashkal: I think ... I think... *tears up* I think I'm in love with that change. |
| 19:19.25 | NightHawkTheSane | the problem still arises that you can start the cast, be interupted by a mob, and have someone else steal it |
| 19:19.34 | Dashkal | Does mean I'm gonna have to be REALLY quick on my feet to gank that enemy mining titanium :p |
| 19:19.44 | NightHawkTheSane | and that's an issue for any resource node gathering |
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| 19:21.22 | Dashkal | This is going to so very much improve the time I have to spend doing icecrown runs. I love it |
| 19:21.25 | ZealotOnAStick | hah, they're giving polearms back to druids! |
| 19:21.41 | Dashkal | wtb purple DK polearm :p There's _one_ and it's a blue |
| 19:21.57 | Dashkal | and it drops off of one of the bosses in heroic VH... |
| 19:22.24 | alestane | I'm ont sure I get polearms for druids. |
| 19:22.26 | AbsolutRayne | I saw a Blood DK with the Polearm from Eye |
| 19:22.31 | AbsolutRayne | and about 10 people spitting on him |
| 19:23.38 | Dashkal | eh, eventually I'll go level my polearms up |
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| 19:23.45 | Dashkal | more for the achievement than anything |
| 19:24.20 | End | for hunters polearms are a stat-stick, so it's no surprise to me that Blizzard makes them a stat-stick for druids too |
| 19:25.42 | Shirik | Woot! |
| 19:25.44 | Shirik | I got The Immortal |
| 19:25.54 | zenzelezz | grats |
| 19:25.57 | Shirik | Well |
| 19:26.04 | Shirik | more of I was able to type /script SendChatMessage(" \124cffffff00\124Hachievement:2186:0000000000112162:1:1:7:9:4294967295:4294967295:4297967295:4294967295\124h[The Immortal]\124h\124r", "GUILD") |
| 19:26.12 | Shirik | but that's good enough for me! |
| 19:26.28 | End | haha |
| 19:26.39 | NightHawkTheSane | ~lart Shirik |
| 19:26.39 | purl | eats Shirik and falls over dead |
| 19:26.46 | ZorbaTHut | stupid stratholme. one misstep and 20 mobs jump down your throat >_< |
| 19:26.58 | End | purl: stop trying to eat Shirik |
| 19:26.58 | purl | ACTION leaps to his feet and stops trying to eat Shirik |
| 19:27.04 | Shirik | I tried to get the realm first ones |
| 19:27.07 | End | didn't you know he's immortal! |
| 19:27.07 | Shirik | but apparently those are checked? |
| 19:27.14 | zenzelezz | ZorbaTHut: that sounds like some sort of Japanese porn |
| 19:27.16 | Shirik | I got DCed when I did it |
| 19:27.37 | End | no |
| 19:27.42 | End | they'd jump other places too |
| 19:28.41 | ZealotOnAStick | Shirik, heh, is there a listing of other achievement messages like that? |
| 19:29.15 | Shirik | nah, I was just using devtools and my achievements list |
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| 19:33.04 | m3lin | meh.. whats the points in SetPoint if I want my frame to position its bottom at the parents top? :P |
| 19:34.24 | alestane | :SetPoint("BOTTOM", self:GetParent(), "TOP")? |
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| 19:36.53 | m3lin | hmm.. the frame is 64px high.. and it seems to position itself only 32px over it's parent |
| 19:36.59 | m3lin | ShamanSpellPanel[I]:SetPoint("BOTTOMLEFT", ShamanPanel, (I-1)*32, 0, "TOPLEFT") |
| 19:37.17 | alestane | Youre' out of order. |
| 19:37.44 | alestane | :SetPoint(point, relativeTo, relativePoint, xOffset, yOffset). |
| 19:37.53 | m3lin | ah :| |
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| 19:49.48 | kd3 | whee for turning my audio system up to 11 |
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| 19:57.43 | foxlit | "I uninstalled an addon a little while back but, when I did, the druid shapeshift bar did not return." |
| 19:57.43 | foxlit | "The addon that was uninstalled was Opie." |
| 19:57.59 | foxlit | Clearly, the answer is "THOU SHALT NOT UNINSTALL OPie" |
| 19:59.36 | Kirov | kd3 - You know, that particular phrase is one of those that I'm always surprised when people don't know what the reference is from or haven't seen the movie. |
| 20:00.47 | m3lin | I have a secured button, to cast a spell - when I click that spell I also want to hide a frame - is that possible? seems like adding SetScript("OnClick") to the button removes the spell from it |
| 20:00.52 | Kirov | Though, I guess I'm similarly annoyed by "klaatu barada nikto" and "we don't need badges" references. |
| 20:01.29 | zenzelezz | "# Tapping: All player spells which cause a creature to become aggressive to you will now also immediately cause the creature to be tapped. " -- tapped by Taunt? |
| 20:01.36 | Kirov | Or, rather, the mis-assigning of those references to movies that were actually using them in reference to another original movie. |
| 20:01.59 | alestane | The first is from The Day the Earth Stood Still. The second, if I had to guess, I'd say The Blues Brothers, but I'm not too sure. |
| 20:02.32 | durcyn | blazing saddles |
| 20:02.41 | alestane | Ah. Haven't seen that one. |
| 20:02.42 | Kirov | *BUZZZZ* WRONG |
| 20:02.56 | Kirov | durcyn - That's a reference to an older movie. |
| 20:02.59 | alestane | It's usually quoted to me as "badgers." |
| 20:03.04 | durcyn | Kirov: oh? |
| 20:03.21 | Gnarfoz | zenzelezz: why would you start a fight with taunt... but yes, that would apply to taunt. this change is for DoTs, though. DoTs and other abilities that don't do any damage for a while after application |
| 20:03.48 | Gnarfoz | Kirov: Spinal Tap for up to 11, but that was probably obvious |
| 20:03.58 | Kirov | The 1948 Humphrey Bogart movie The Treasure of Sierra Madre, which is based on a 1927 novel of the same name. |
| 20:03.59 | zenzelezz | Gnarfoz: hey, a 30-yard tap is okay with me |
| 20:04.01 | Gnarfoz | never heard of the other two :< |
| 20:04.08 | Gnarfoz | zenzelezz: since when can warriors taunt from 30y |
| 20:04.13 | zenzelezz | .0.8 |
| 20:04.17 | Gnarfoz | oh |
| 20:04.20 | Gnarfoz | neat, I guess |
| 20:04.26 | Gnarfoz | ;P |
| 20:04.39 | Kirov | Klaatu Barada Nikto is usually attributed to Evil Dead 3 |
| 20:05.32 | Gnarfoz | which would be wrong :O |
| 20:05.53 | Kirov | exactly |
| 20:06.15 | Kirov | now I'm scared by all the people who think The Day the Earth Stood Still is a shitty Keanu Reeves movie |
| 20:06.48 | Gnarfoz | that's how it's gonna be from now on |
| 20:06.49 | Gnarfoz | heh |
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| 20:07.38 | nevcairiel | people run out of good stories |
| 20:07.38 | Shiibot | New WoW-EU Server Alert: Due to population differences between the highest and lowest populated PvP realms, the following Free Character Migration will be available from January 7th to 13th:. . Horde only: Magtheridon --> Haomarush, Zenedar. |
| 20:07.39 | Shiibot | Burning Legion, Ravencrest --> Auchindoun, Chromaggus. Neptulon, Sylvanas --> Genjuros, Jaedenar. Grim Batol, Ragnaros --> Deathwing, Karazhan. Al'Akir, Twilight's Hammer --> Boulderfist, Laughing Skull |
| 20:07.39 | Shiibot | Outland, Stormreaver --> Shattered Halls, Xavius. Frostmane, Kazzak --> Daggerspine, Mazrigos. . Argent Dawn --> Darkmoon Faire, Steamwheedle Cartel, The Sha'tar. |
| 20:07.39 | nevcairiel | so 57 years later, they just redo an old movie |
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| 20:07.54 | nevcairiel | I should watch the original from 1951 soem day =P |
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| 20:14.09 | ZealotOnAStick | alestane : the badgers variant is from Weird Al's UHF |
| 20:14.32 | alestane | That doesn't surprise me in the least. |
| 20:15.31 | m3lin | meh.. I want Argent Dawn -> Talnivar |
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| 20:24.19 | m3lin | do I have to manually program my panel to remember where I last dropped it? |
| 20:29.13 | alestane | Not usually. |
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| 20:35.43 | AckisWork | hi Gnarfoz |
| 20:36.17 | m3lin | alestane ok.. so how do I get wow to remember where I dropped the panel? |
| 20:36.49 | alestane | If it's set as movable, and it's placed by using :StartMoving(), it should remember on its own. |
| 20:37.05 | m3lin | well.. I have SetPoint and it seems to reset it all the time |
| 20:37.30 | m3lin | should I just remove the SetPoint line? |
| 20:38.15 | alestane | One sec. |
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| 20:38.24 | alestane | !api :SetUserPlaced |
| 20:38.25 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for ':SetUserPlaced'. |
| 20:38.56 | m3lin | checking it on wowwiki =) |
| 20:39.44 | alestane | Looks like you can force it with frame:SetUserPlaced(true) |
| 20:39.52 | m3lin | ok |
| 20:41.29 | zenzelezz | !api SetUserPlaced |
| 20:41.29 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'SetUserPlaced'. |
| 20:42.46 | procule | !api Bonjour() |
| 20:42.47 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'Bonjour()'. |
| 20:42.49 | m3lin | however, it seems not to work.. it still wont remember |
| 20:42.53 | procule | :( |
| 20:43.51 | m3lin | hmm.. might have found why - checking |
| 20:43.58 | Lunessa | "We don't need no stinkin' badges' is originally from "Treasure of the Serra Madre' and was paordied in 'Blazing Saddles'. "This one goes to 11." is from Spinal Tap. |
| 20:44.15 | procule | Spïnal Täp |
| 20:44.21 | procule | something like that |
| 20:44.22 | m3lin | solved it |
| 20:45.45 | Lunessa | 'Gort, Klatuu baradda nicto.' |
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| 20:56.43 | durcyn | i believe the full title was "THIS IS SPINAL TAP", but with such great quotes as "lick my love pump", the title doesn't matter so much |
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| 20:58.26 | hipjipp | anyone knows a "fataal" in the UI area? |
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| 21:06.33 | Cide | hipjipp: no, he died. |
| 21:07.07 | hipjipp | how do you mean "died"? Died as in the manner of a person dieing, or died as in he quit? |
| 21:07.21 | Cide | hipjipp didn't get it. |
| 21:07.44 | Cide | maybe it was too subtle |
| 21:08.14 | durcyn | you forgot the <sarcasm> tag |
| 21:08.38 | Cide | I don't go that low |
| 21:11.40 | Pizik_afk | hehe |
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| 21:50.02 | Tem | ~weather klft |
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| 22:06.48 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/test/WoWScrnShot_010709_225444.jpg |
| 22:06.53 | mikma | pew pew peeeeew! |
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| 22:21.17 | KarlKFI | WTB Java optimization: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/105779 |
| 22:22.57 | KarlKFI | main points of complexity being the delimiter and conjustion |
| 22:23.04 | KarlKFI | conjunction* |
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| 22:30.19 | Lunessa | Microsoft Virtual PC is making me very very very angry |
| 22:31.36 | Hirsute | *nod* It does that. |
| 22:31.49 | Hirsute | Maybe that's why they made it free, yet another way to piss people off. |
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| 22:39.05 | KarlKFI | no takes for their optimization fix for the day? |
| 22:40.24 | Olorin | being lazy i know but could someone kindly tell me how to do a string format for converting a integer of say 28 to "0028" |
| 22:41.04 | alestane | %4d IIRC |
| 22:41.12 | Olorin | thanks alestane |
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| 22:49.03 | Olorin | cant work out if when i print that it still says 28 not 0028 because its converting it back to a number or not |
| 22:50.43 | alestane | lua> string.format("%04d", 28) |
| 22:50.44 | lua_bot | alestane: 0028 |
| 22:50.53 | alestane | There we go, leading 0. |
| 22:52.06 | Olorin | many thanks alestane, its appreciated, my brain has gone to sleep after my mum ordered somthing online and just spent last half hour tracking e-mails for fake companies etc... |
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| 22:53.12 | D`Jeff | hello |
| 22:53.30 | Hirsute | Hrmmm. |
| 22:54.04 | Hirsute | lua>local mynum = 28; string.format("%04d", mynum); print(mynum) |
| 22:54.04 | lua_bot | Hirsute: 28 |
| 22:54.14 | Hirsute | Oh, dur. |
| 22:54.22 | Hirsute | lua>local mynum = 28; string.format("%04d", mynum) |
| 22:54.23 | lua_bot | Hirsute: No output |
| 22:54.51 | Hirsute | Now, that's interesting. |
| 22:54.57 | Hirsute | Yeah, I fail at lua |
| 22:55.33 | Olorin | your string. format isnt assigning it to anyhting |
| 22:57.55 | Hirsute | *shrug* just not sure why string.format("%04d", 28) had an out put, but that previous one didn't. |
| 22:58.40 | Dashkal | single statement gets interpreted as an expression, your second test had two |
| 22:58.50 | alestane | lua>local mynum = 28; return string.format("%04d", mynum) |
| 22:58.50 | lua_bot | alestane: 0028 |
| 22:58.51 | Hirsute | Ah |
| 22:58.55 | Hirsute | Okay |
| 22:59.00 | Hirsute | So... |
| 22:59.23 | Hirsute | lua>local mynum = 28; print(string.format("%04d", mynum)) |
| 22:59.24 | lua_bot | Hirsute: 0028 |
| 22:59.30 | Hirsute | There we go. |
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| 23:11.14 | Lunessa | People the world over are making me want to serve them a big damned glass of "fuck off and die." |
| 23:12.27 | Hirsute | <_< |
| 23:12.30 | Hirsute | >_> |
| 23:12.37 | Olorin | uh oh.... hides in closet |
| 23:13.12 | Lunessa | Starting with the Domain Admin who blew up my Virtual XP Box. GRRRRR. |
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| 23:16.06 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-you-are-being-lied-to-about-pirates-1225817.html |
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| 23:30.20 | alestane | I liked http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/mark-steel/mark-steel-what-creationists-really-hate-is-that-we-emerged-by-accident-1229954.html |
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| 23:49.42 | mikma | anyone here knows what's the damage Corpse Explosion puts out in PTR? |
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| 23:51.44 | Shirik | :( |
| 23:52.03 | Thunder_Child | 'tis impolite |
| 23:54.16 | Cide | lua> 30/8, 30/7, 30/6, 30/5, 30/4 |
| 23:54.17 | lua_bot | Cide: 3.75, 4.2857142857143, 5, 6, 7.5 |
| 23:54.47 | Shirik | is it correct to say that "to rawr" is a valid verb? |
| 23:55.01 | Shirik | that is, the verb form of "rawr"? |
| 23:55.17 | ScytheBlade1 | roared? |
| 23:55.34 | NeoTron | mikma: well it's .. 2x of today no? |
| 23:55.47 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: p.t., rawred |
| 23:58.30 | Cide | rawr isn't a correct noun OR verb for that matter |
| 23:58.38 | Cide | see: http://www.answers.com/rawr |
| 23:59.39 | ckknight | Cide: rawr. |
| 23:59.59 | Shirik | It is totally a verb |
