| 00:00.32 | mikma | bleh. still can't find info about the tameable ooze |
| 00:00.32 | mikma | (ooze as a green blob, not the one with head) |
| 00:01.08 | [dRaCo] | tameable ooze? just a rumor or something more to it? |
| 00:03.23 | zenzelezz | wasn't there one that thought it was a crocolisk? |
| 00:06.28 | mikma | that's the one with the head |
| 00:06.36 | WobWork | http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/11/24/ghost-croc-crocoslime-hydradile/ |
| 00:06.37 | mikma | i saw a dragonkin ooze on some hunter |
| 00:07.02 | mikma | wobwork: yes, that's the wrong one. thats "not the one with head" |
| 00:09.08 | mikma | it looks like this: http://www.wowwiki.com/Disgusting_Oozeling |
| 00:11.26 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | Now am I nuts |
| 00:11.32 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | or am I nuts |
| 00:13.00 | WobWork | What were the choices again? |
| 00:13.17 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | Crazy or Crazt |
| 00:13.28 | WobWork | oh man, how will I -choose-? |
| 00:13.55 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | Not sure |
| 00:13.59 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | I know this is a toughy |
| 00:14.02 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | Push through, man!@ |
| 00:14.04 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | Be strong! |
| 00:14.13 | WobWork | I choose... |
| 00:14.16 | WobWork | Crazy |
| 00:14.24 | WobWork | (Man, I hope that was the right one) |
| 00:14.34 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | Ill let you know when this SS uploads |
| 00:14.36 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | >_< |
| 00:15.18 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | http://i43.tinypic.com/10h7nz5.jpg ok, is it me, or is the bottom gradient line on the Action bars NOT as sharp as the top one? |
| 00:16.07 | Pneumatus | look the same to me |
| 00:16.14 | [dRaCo] | to me, too |
| 00:16.23 | WobWork | possibly vaugely smaller? |
| 00:16.28 | Pneumatus | they both end in the same place and start fading in the same place |
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| 00:16.57 | Pneumatus | could be a trick of the eye, the fact you're looking down |
| 00:17.00 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | Blah, iunno |
| 00:17.02 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | Yeah |
| 00:17.03 | m3lin | how do I make a button to react on mousedown? buttonName:MouseDown ? |
| 00:17.08 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | I might just be too perfectionist atm, too |
| 00:17.19 | Pneumatus | kinda like how you have to space door hinges weirdly so the eye thinks they look equal |
| 00:18.08 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | Also, do you think theyre too thick? |
| 00:18.09 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | lol |
| 00:18.13 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | I cant decide on that either |
| 00:20.29 | m3lin | anyone? |
| 00:21.47 | Iriel | m3lin: You could RegisterForClicks("LeftButtonDown") |
| 00:22.02 | Iriel | m3lin: your question's a bit vague so that might not be the right answer |
| 00:22.21 | m3lin | I want my button to trigger when I press the mousebutton on it :P |
| 00:22.41 | m3lin | press and hold that is |
| 00:23.13 | m3lin | so seems that is what Im looking for yea |
| 00:23.32 | foxlit | AbsoRayne-SemiAF: actually, they're different. |
| 00:23.36 | foxlit | The top line ends up being thicker. |
| 00:23.49 | m3lin | however, Im working without an XML file so I want to work this inside lua only |
| 00:24.31 | m3lin | ah.. its SetScript - I should've known that |
| 00:24.46 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | foxlit: I figured it out |
| 00:25.01 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | They wernt different, just the way they were placed made them look so |
| 00:25.05 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | Hard to explain reallyu |
| 00:25.20 | foxlit | Actually, you can do that in a single word |
| 00:25.23 | foxlit | antialiasing. |
| 00:26.38 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | oh yeah >_< duh |
| 00:27.53 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | Cant decide if I want to add back in the red gradients or not... |
| 00:28.36 | Shirik | (19:28:19) (+Seerah) or were you talking about the horrible spelling/grammer? :) |
| 00:28.44 | Seerah | :P |
| 00:28.50 | Seerah | ~lart Shirik |
| 00:28.50 | purl | offers Shirik some herring |
| 00:28.59 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | IE: http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw19801.png |
| 00:29.16 | Seerah | you left out the part where I corrected my spelling mistake ;) |
| 00:29.28 | Corrodias | Abso: what's up with the "None" buff? |
| 00:29.39 | Seerah | nice UI, Rayne |
| 00:29.42 | Shirik | oh... oops.... I'm sorry Seerah, I have no idea how I could have forgotten that |
| 00:29.45 | Shirik | >.> |
| 00:29.59 | Seerah | hehe |
| 00:30.12 | TacticSiege | AbsoRayne-SemiAF that is a purdy UI |
| 00:30.52 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | Seerah: ty, im going to update it here tonight to what I posted a few ago |
| 00:31.05 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | Just deciding on the red gradient now |
| 00:32.02 | m3lin | is there anyway to check speed and type of the mounts? as in 60%, 100%, 280% and flying/running? |
| 00:32.13 | foxlit | no |
| 00:32.29 | Seerah | Rayne: gradient seems darker next to player frame than next to target... |
| 00:32.30 | duaiwe | tooltip parsing or comparing the spell id against a user created database are the only ways |
| 00:32.57 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | Seerah: Mountain BG vs Sky :P |
| 00:33.18 | m3lin | NightHawkTheSane so, basicly check if "can only be summoned in" is in the tooltip, thus it'd be a flying one |
| 00:33.32 | NightHawkTheSane | more or less. |
| 00:33.43 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | And I actually parented all my Panels this time! \o/ yay me |
| 00:33.46 | NightHawkTheSane | I search for either of the strings "Northrend" or "Outland" perseonally |
| 00:34.03 | NightHawkTheSane | and then look for "very fast" or "extremely fast" to determine speed |
| 00:34.12 | Seerah | Rayne: that might be it... but part of the one on the right has mountain behind it, too, and it doesn't seem as dark still |
| 00:34.13 | m3lin | alright |
| 00:34.39 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | Gah |
| 00:34.44 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | mt |
| 00:34.44 | NightHawkTheSane | that still fails on some mounts, though |
| 00:34.56 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh4Si6GxDgI&feature=related This makes me smile so much |
| 00:34.58 | Seerah | Rayne: but it could still be my imagination :) |
| 00:35.46 | Seerah | <3 that movie |
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| 00:38.03 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | Blah, already 23 Panels in the UI |
| 00:38.13 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | WOE BE THY FRAME PARENTING |
| 00:40.46 | Shirik | I'll parent your frames |
| 00:41.12 | Shirik | Drenden is Full: Position in queue: 235 |
| 00:41.20 | Shirik | There's more people in queue than there are on the server at one point in time |
| 00:41.22 | Shirik | amazing! |
| 00:43.35 | Syzgyn | I've got you beat Shirik, 259 on Kel'Thuzad |
| 00:43.39 | Shirik | yes |
| 00:43.43 | Shirik | but Kel'Thuzad has people on it |
| 00:43.47 | Syzgyn | this is true |
| 00:43.51 | TacticSiege | Syzgyn horde or ally? |
| 00:43.54 | Syzgyn | Ally |
| 00:44.05 | Shirik | Drenden has less people on the entire server than one of my old guilds on Eredar imo |
| 00:44.06 | TacticSiege | aye same here |
| 00:44.51 | Shirik | But you can listen to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYub1neLZmA and the pain and anger all goes away |
| 00:45.09 | Syzgyn | TacticSiege: http://www.armorylite.com/us/Kel'Thuzad/syzgyn |
| 00:45.44 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | KilJaeden can hit over 1000 some nights |
| 00:45.44 | Syzgyn | Shirik: wtf? |
| 00:45.45 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | :/ |
| 00:45.51 | Shirik | good song! |
| 00:45.58 | TacticSiege | Syzgyn: http://armorylite.com/us/Kel'Thuzad/rigahan |
| 00:46.10 | Syzgyn | AbsoRayne-SemiAF: I started at 750 in the queue tonight |
| 00:46.23 | Syzgyn | I expect its at 800+ now |
| 00:46.27 | Syzgyn | it breaks 1k easy |
| 00:47.26 | Shirik | :( |
| 00:47.33 | Shirik | Here I'll sing for you |
| 00:47.42 | Syzgyn | haha |
| 00:48.58 | Shirik | He put that bottle to his head and pulled the trigger, and finally drank away her memory. Life is short, but this time it was bigger than the strength he had to get up off his knees. We found him with his face down in the pillow with a note that said "I'll love her 'till I die." And when we buried him beneath the willow, the angels sang a whiskey lullaby... |
| 00:49.00 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | Its funny cause people bitched about it being so full |
| 00:49.02 | Shirik | ~dance |
| 00:49.03 | purl | <(*.*<) <(*.*)> \(*.*)/ (>*.*)> |
| 00:49.04 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | We got our Xfers |
| 00:49.07 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | and like no one left |
| 00:49.15 | AbsoRayne-SemiAF | We gained at least 4xs more than we lost. |
| 00:49.20 | NightHawkTheSane | ~lart Shirik |
| 00:49.20 | purl | takes out Shirik with the trash |
| 00:49.56 | Shirik | Brad Paisley has great stories |
| 00:50.02 | Shirik | but sometimes his lyrics don't fit with his songs |
| 00:50.07 | Shirik | but this is one of his better songs |
| 00:50.28 | WobWork | meh |
| 00:50.28 | WobWork | Alliance to Horde is 7:3 for my server |
| 00:50.46 | WobWork | makes trying for the warbear terribly difficult |
| 00:50.58 | WobWork | however, the horde side of my guild are so much friendlier than the alliance side |
| 00:51.02 | Shirik | WobWork, that's abou5t the same as our server, and we just did it on Saturday |
| 00:51.12 | Shirik | thing is my guild went in with a clear strategy, etc. |
| 00:51.14 | Shirik | Very focused |
| 00:51.20 | WobWork | well. We tried to also |
| 00:51.25 | Shirik | one of the most important things: hit stormwind first |
| 00:51.28 | WobWork | but the 50 alliance waiting sort of stopped it |
| 00:51.30 | Shirik | unless you're not going to do them all on the same day |
| 00:51.50 | Shirik | we had a good summon spot too |
| 00:51.56 | WobWork | whereabouts? |
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| 00:52.05 | WobWork | I know there's a good one for Darnassus |
| 00:52.06 | Shirik | let me see if I can get you the layout pics |
| 00:52.18 | xlander | Does anyone know if therer is a database for extract gas clouds? |
| 00:52.30 | Shirik | http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh56/Sobeyet/Stormwind.jpg |
| 00:52.41 | Shirik | we pulled the boss into the room we summoned at |
| 00:52.46 | Shirik | that way anyone who wanted to fight us had to come in |
| 00:52.53 | Shirik | helped a lot with controlling them |
| 00:53.42 | WobWork | cause noone goes into that room =) |
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| 00:54.17 | Syzgyn | I'm convinced horde have it easier killing the leaders |
| 00:54.44 | TacticSiege | eh, it was sorta a joke with a raid full of 80s in the middle of the night |
| 00:54.47 | Funkeh` | has there been some kind of file removal at wowi? Why have over 20 of my archived files dissapeared? |
| 00:55.00 | Shirik | We were considering it, but I didn't think we actually did it |
| 00:55.29 | WobWork | Syzgyn: really? |
| 00:55.41 | WobWork | although I guess the harbour can be considered SW's back door now |
| 00:55.56 | Funkeh` | Shirik, I wuite liked having a reference to every version, why have they been removed without my permission? |
| 00:56.20 | Shirik | Like I said, I didn't think it was actually done, however we periodically do cleanups |
| 00:56.35 | Funkeh` | So who should I be contacting |
| 00:56.37 | TacticSiege | comparing IF and org, the boss in IF is much closer to the population center than thrall is in org |
| 00:56.38 | Shirik | Dolby |
| 00:56.47 | Funkeh` | Dolby, ping |
| 00:56.49 | Shirik | I don't think he's here right now |
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| 00:58.58 | Cairenn | Funkeh`: no archived versions have been removed unless the author themselves have removed them |
| 00:59.01 | Syzgyn | Down to 50 in queue! |
| 00:59.31 | Cairenn | that said, it's _possible_ that Dolby has a limit on the number that are retained, with the oldest falling off ... he'd have to answer that, but he's at work right now |
| 00:59.48 | Funkeh` | I left him a message |
| 00:59.59 | Funkeh` | ...but if I reached a limit it would surely shave off 1 at a time |
| 01:00.02 | Funkeh` | not over 20 |
| 01:00.08 | Funkeh` | I'm down to 4 archives |
| 01:00.11 | WobWork | (except for the Terrible Addon Purge of ... 0something) |
| 01:00.12 | Funkeh` | I had... |
| 01:00.16 | Funkeh` | nearly 30 iirc |
| 01:00.23 | Cairenn | as I said ... |
| 01:00.48 | Funkeh` | and as I said |
| 01:00.51 | Funkeh` | I left him a message |
| 01:02.11 | AbsoRayne | Cairenn: :< |
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| 01:05.18 | NightHawkTheSane | *sigh* pallies who sacrifice BoL for kings are fail. |
| 01:05.39 | Eonid | Anyone familiar with FauxScrollFrame? |
| 01:06.01 | AbsoRayne | Running a Group with a Ret and Holy pali and neither of them having kings is totally fail. |
| 01:06.14 | Tem | Eonid, FSF is evil. do it yourself |
| 01:06.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Well, it's fail that ret didn't pick up kings, there really is NOTHING else for them to do with those points |
| 01:06.30 | Eonid | yeah i think im coming to that conclusion |
| 01:06.48 | NightHawkTheSane | holy is better off picking up the 5% crit talent in ret than spending points for kings |
| 01:06.57 | Eonid | FSF is based on another template correct? |
| 01:07.49 | Funkeh` | Hey I'm not the bad guy here :< |
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| 01:08.55 | AbsoRayne | http://i40.tinypic.com/rrjbs1.jpg This gradient look fluid and even to you guys? |
| 01:09.11 | AbsoRayne | on the AB and where the UFs would be |
| 01:10.08 | Corrodias | i think it's fine, if a little strange that they don't fade at the same distance |
| 01:11.07 | Corrodias | they might end a little abruptly. it's hard to tell. maybe it'd be easier on a white background. |
| 01:11.20 | TacticSiege | a little heavy at the ends imo, can clearly see a square edge instead of it dissapearing |
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| 01:11.48 | Eonid | I'm really just getting started with LUA and WoW addons, anyone have any links that might help me understand a bit more? or am i just better off disecting some existing addons? |
| 01:11.58 | TacticSiege | sexy nonetheless AbsoRayne |
| 01:12.01 | krka | Eonid: Don't call it that. ^_^ |
| 01:12.02 | Corrodias | cue pedantic rage about capitalization |
| 01:12.27 | Eonid | dont call it what? |
| 01:12.33 | Olorin | lol |
| 01:12.50 | Corrodias | cut to shot of horror and sorrow of whoever called it LUA in all caps |
| 01:12.52 | Olorin | Eonid try http://home.blarg.net/~tyroney/wow/uitutorial/ |
| 01:12.54 | Corrodias | fade to white. |
| 01:13.02 | Eonid | oh sorry |
| 01:13.15 | Olorin | handy for first intro but if tried stuff already it might be bit too basic |
| 01:13.50 | TacticSiege | does the name Lua have any significance |
| 01:14.11 | TacticSiege | like, since it isnt an acronym... is it... something else? or just a proper name? |
| 01:14.38 | Eonid | actually what would really help is if i could find a link that outlines the different predefined <tags> for .xml files |
| 01:14.50 | WobWork | TacticSiege: it's portugeuse for Moon |
| 01:15.27 | TacticSiege | WobWork: cool thanks, I will win a trivia game in your honor some day |
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| 01:18.57 | Iriel | Eonid: Sounds like you need to spend some time at wowwiki.com, in the UI section |
| 01:20.03 | Olorin | Eonid if you want purely xml layout theres http://fara.webeddie.com/ui/ but many prefer xml free code , mostly preference |
| 01:20.15 | AbsoRayne_ | http://i39.tinypic.com/2s7hwms.jpg Heres my 'Finished' Product |
| 01:20.17 | AbsoRayne_ | :) |
| 01:20.41 | zenzelezz | that is actually rather nifty |
| 01:21.02 | zenzelezz | I think I'd need a second actionbar at the bottom |
| 01:21.07 | TacticSiege | I like it, what is the bar with your name on it in the direct center? |
| 01:21.11 | Olorin | AbsoRayne you playing wow on 42" screen? lol text seems so small |
| 01:21.33 | zenzelezz | AbsoRayne: is this downloadable someplace? I might have to play around with it |
| 01:29.47 | zenzelezz | note to self: if you're going to mess around alone in MC, bring food |
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| 01:30.39 | zenzelezz | AbsoRayne: is that downloadable someplace? I might have to play around with it |
| 01:30.50 | AbsoRayne__ | zenzelezz: Ill be updating it tonight probably |
| 01:30.58 | AbsoRayne__ | Old version is still up, works fine |
| 01:31.04 | AbsoRayne__ | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8207-RaynesBurntBlackCherryLite.html |
| 01:31.10 | zenzelezz | cool |
| 01:34.23 | AbsoRayne__ | Hrm |
| 01:38.14 | Tem | Lore Wise: why do we go into the obsidian sanctum? |
| 01:38.38 | zenzelezz | I think the player consensus on that is "?" |
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| 01:44.26 | WobWork | Tem: Because every Winter Veil, there's a frost giant who offers phat lewts to any good boys and girls who come and kill him? |
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| 01:45.18 | zenzelezz | I'm confused, what does that have to do with the Obsidian Sanctum? |
| 01:45.37 | WobWork | absolutely nothing? |
| 01:45.47 | WobWork | Oh wait, I'm confusing it with thingie |
| 01:45.58 | WobWork | WG raid |
| 01:50.21 | ScytheBlade1 | They need to open up their Blizzard Accounts to WoW already so I can merge my accounts and hopefully share account-bound items -.- |
| 01:56.41 | Tekkub | I know it's not hard to do, but outsmarting Best Buy salestards is fun |
| 01:57.01 | Tekkub | we're looking at TVs, won't have the money to get one till Trey gets his tax return... |
| 01:58.17 | Tekkub | guy bugs us, tell him no, he starts to walk away... "oh, did anyone tell you about the promotion we've got going? who do you have for your TV service?" "No one" "Well will you be signing up when you buy the TV?" "No" |
| 01:58.49 | Tekkub | he looks confused... "we just download everything we watch" "oh..." and he wanders off |
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| 01:58.57 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:59.10 | Tekkub | I think we might make that a regular thing, it was fun |
| 01:59.19 | ScytheBlade1 | I have a friend, who back in the day |
| 01:59.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Bought a suprnova hoodie |
| 01:59.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Back during their prime time |
| 01:59.30 | kd3 | rofl |
| 01:59.39 | Tekkub | ah good ol supr |
| 01:59.41 | ScytheBlade1 | He went with his friend to a music store |
| 01:59.47 | ScytheBlade1 | His friend would pick up an album |
| 01:59.54 | ScytheBlade1 | He'd say, "Know why I'm not buying that?" |
| 01:59.55 | Tekkub | honestly though, mini's a much better site design |
| 02:00.02 | ScytheBlade1 | And pound his fist on his chest |
| 02:00.24 | kd3 | how often did the staff on the other side of the counter even know about supr? |
| 02:00.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Probably never |
| 02:00.41 | Tekkub | heh, I should go to the old CD store and ask them where I should go to download songs for free |
| 02:00.46 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:01.09 | Tekkub | "Man I want this album.. but $22? Where can I download it for free?" |
| 02:02.06 | TacticSiege | make sure you get a guy from the opposite corner of the store and have him walk over |
| 02:02.18 | Tekkub | heh |
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| 02:05.57 | Syzgyn | AbsoRayne: 1200+ Queue on Kel'Thuzad now |
| 02:06.15 | AbsoRayne | Syzgyn: Christ :/ |
| 02:11.46 | kd3 | copy faster, damn it! |
| 02:14.53 | Lukian | use something else? :p |
| 02:16.06 | kd3 | meh, if only my ipod came with a firewire cable, maybe I would |
| 02:17.21 | Arrowmaster | i thought usb2.0 was faster than firewire? |
| 02:17.39 | kd3 | meh, I'm just bemoaning the lack of speed period |
| 02:17.40 | Arrowmaster | or have there been firewire updates i just havent paid attention to |
| 02:17.49 | kd3 | even though I'm transferring a few gigs of data... |
| 02:18.21 | Arrowmaster | bet you cant wait for usb3.0 when we finally get full duplex transfer |
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| 02:18.30 | kd3 | <3 |
| 02:18.48 | kd3 | "Benchmarks show that the sustained data transfer rates are higher for FireWire than for USB 2.0, especially on Apple Mac OS X with more varied results on Microsoft Windows" |
| 02:18.52 | kd3 | ^wikipedia |
| 02:19.14 | AnduinLothar | usb rams up to a higher top sped but it's nto consistant |
| 02:19.38 | Arrowmaster | is firewire full duplex? |
| 02:19.46 | Arrowmaster | i bet that would explain it if it is |
| 02:19.50 | Tekkub | eSATA? |
| 02:19.56 | NightHawkTheSane | kd3: it kinda annoys me that apple has more or less phased out firewire :\ |
| 02:20.04 | Tekkub | does anyone even use eSATA? |
| 02:20.13 | AnduinLothar | pc world didnt' adopt it |
| 02:20.27 | NightHawkTheSane | fuck the pc worl |
| 02:20.28 | NightHawkTheSane | d |
| 02:20.30 | AbsoRayne | Blah |
| 02:20.31 | kd3 | meh, I've got an esata port on my case but I unhooked it because I needed to use all 6 sata ports on my mobo for internal goodies |
| 02:20.35 | AnduinLothar | apple likes to drop it like it's hot |
| 02:20.38 | AbsoRayne | Frostweave Bags are still like 100G per on my Server |
| 02:20.39 | AbsoRayne | :/ |
| 02:20.40 | Tekkub | firewire is apple's new SCSI :) |
| 02:20.56 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: and that is how we know you torrent anime. 6 SATA devices. |
| 02:21.16 | Arrowmaster | well i think the fact that only apple could call it firewire and everybody else had to call it ieee 1394 didnt help people to adopt it |
| 02:21.38 | kd3 | current `df -BG` output: http://wowi.pastey.net/105566 |
| 02:23.21 | kd3 | so... yes |
| 02:23.47 | Shirik | I think I'm getting fat |
| 02:23.54 | Shirik | I think I'm going to go run daily |
| 02:24.33 | Shirik | I'm serious :/ |
| 02:24.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: not until you finish said program |
| 02:25.10 | batrick | man |
| 02:25.21 | batrick | people who have been on the server the longest should get priority in queues |
| 02:25.24 | batrick | this is rediculous |
| 02:25.32 | batrick | 30 minute queue :( |
| 02:25.42 | ScytheBlade1 | batrick: nah forget that. People with Twilight Vanquisher get priority. WE HAVE VIRTUAL DRAGONS TO KILL. |
| 02:25.48 | AnduinLothar | ^^ |
| 02:26.01 | ScytheBlade1 | batrick: plus, with our queue, we're sitting at an hour thirty minutes |
| 02:26.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Probably 2 by now |
| 02:26.09 | batrick | sorry to hear that |
| 02:26.22 | batrick | blizzard needs to offer more transfers |
| 02:26.35 | Shirik | You know |
| 02:26.43 | Shirik | Blizzard could probably make a fortune selling "priority slots" |
| 02:26.50 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:26.51 | Shirik | $15 extra/mo, you go into a high priority queue |
| 02:27.10 | Cairenn | omg, I can hear the screams of outrage already! |
| 02:27.10 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd go against their "everyone pays the same fees and has access to the same stuff" though |
| 02:27.24 | smcn | heh someone in my raid said that earlier :P |
| 02:28.38 | Shirik | they do have access to the same stuff, ScytheBlade1 |
| 02:28.43 | Shirik | To quote animal farm |
| 02:28.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Except that by paying more |
| 02:28.53 | Shirik | all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others |
| 02:28.55 | ScytheBlade1 | They get a clear advantage over someone else |
| 02:28.58 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:29.17 | Shirik | the same advantage as TCG |
| 02:29.19 | Aiiane | or blizz just needs to stop trying to make more money off of overcrowded servers :P |
| 02:29.28 | Shirik | you get "more fun" for paying a little more |
| 02:29.30 | ScytheBlade1 | TCG is meaningless rewards |
| 02:29.32 | Shirik | but you still have access to the same content |
| 02:29.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Gametime is valuable |
| 02:30.24 | kd3 | whee at a non-broken implementation... 4.1 gigs of music... 27 megs of album art and other crap. compared to the 4.1 gigs of music and ~2 gigs of album art. |
| 02:30.26 | kd3 | >.< |
| 02:51.54 | WobWork | if they put that extra 15$ from each |
| 02:52.15 | WobWork | -priority- slot towards updating the hardware on that server to support more users online |
| 02:52.17 | WobWork | I'd be happy =) |
| 02:56.29 | Shirik | omfg |
| 02:56.31 | Shirik | 12520 mp5 |
| 02:56.33 | Shirik | while casting |
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| 03:29.40 | Olorin | is ingame common language somthing you learn or just turn on somehow? |
| 03:30.02 | TacticSiege | common is what you speak if youre alliance |
| 03:30.06 | sacarasc | it's automatically learnt and used by default |
| 03:30.09 | kd3 | common is the alliance standard race, orcish is the horde standard race |
| 03:30.17 | sacarasc | unless you meant that |
| 03:30.27 | AbsoRayne | DAMNIT |
| 03:30.36 | AbsoRayne | I just Solod Garr alone on Rayne to 11% |
| 03:30.49 | AbsoRayne | and Enraged Regen was off CD in 15 seconds |
| 03:30.52 | AbsoRayne | :( |
| 03:31.04 | sacarasc | Shirik: how? |
| 03:31.08 | Olorin | ah ok , thanks |
| 03:31.24 | Shirik | sacarasc: Well, I asked one druid for an innervate |
| 03:31.32 | sacarasc | got 3? |
| 03:31.33 | Shirik | at the same time, another druid saw that I was low on manna |
| 03:31.39 | Shirik | so I got two |
| 03:31.44 | Shirik | no, only 2 |
| 03:31.49 | Shirik | I have 1200-1300 normally |
| 03:32.01 | Shirik | 866 unbuffed spirit |
| 03:32.42 | WobWork | ninervate stacks? |
| 03:33.50 | Shirik | ya |
| 03:39.00 | WobWork | that's kinda cool |
| 03:39.17 | Zyndrome | herr |
| 03:39.58 | WobWork | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:41.27 | WobWork | dessen Ruhm |
| 03:47.09 | Syzgyn | Stupid 1500+ queues kept us from trying 3 drakes tonight >:( |
| 03:48.31 | sacarasc | move the guild to a less populated server |
| 03:49.55 | Zyndrome | Syzgyn : in our case, it was stupid people that kept us from doing 3 drakes |
| 03:51.08 | sacarasc | my guild dares not even 1 drake |
| 03:51.20 | Zyndrome | 2 drakes is a joke compared to 3 :C |
| 03:53.12 | Zyndrome | done 3 drakes once, and never again |
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| 03:56.24 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/europe_middle_earth.jpg |
| 03:58.48 | Syzgyn | Zyndrome: Not to say that wouldn't be the next obstacle, but we didnt even get that far. |
| 03:59.50 | WobWork | Mirkwood are italians |
| 03:59.53 | WobWork | it explains so much =P |
| 04:04.46 | Tem | WTB iPhone app with the same functionality of the blizzard authenticator |
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| 04:20.55 | Shirik | Tem: For WoW? |
| 04:20.58 | Shirik | or for something else? |
| 04:21.20 | Shirik | also, f iphone |
| 04:21.23 | Shirik | get a storm |
| 04:21.48 | haste | a what? |
| 04:23.00 | Shirik | ~wiki Blackberry Storm |
| 04:23.15 | Shirik | .... |
| 04:23.24 | Shirik | purl needs to learn how to strip infoboxes |
| 04:23.37 | Shirik | The BlackBerry Storm, or BlackBerry Thunder, is a smartphone developed by Research In Motion (RIM). It is part of the 9500 series of phones.[4] It is RIM's first touchscreen device and first device without a physical keyboard and will feature a touchscreen which reacts physically like a button via SurePress, a Research In Motion patented technology of providing haptic feedback. It will be available through Vodafone in the UK, Ireland and Au |
| 04:27.56 | WobWork | I'd like the haptic feedback |
| 04:28.10 | Shirik | It's pretty nice |
| 04:28.40 | WobWork | However, I'd never use the email enough to make it worthwhile |
| 04:29.45 | Dewin | Anybody know offhand of something like wowwebstats but self-hosted? |
| 04:31.22 | NightHawkTheSane | .. Kill Archavon-10, he drops 2x Pally T7. No pallys in the raid. Fuck. That. |
| 04:32.45 | Iriel | The storm got a HORRIBLE review |
| 04:32.46 | sacarasc | had that happen |
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| 04:33.17 | Iriel | The whole 'haptic touchscreen' thing is apparently horrible to actually use and an ergonomic nightmare |
| 04:33.41 | NightHawkTheSane | thats what i've heard |
| 04:34.35 | WobWork | NightHawkTheSane: That's what happened to our raid =( |
| 04:35.04 | WobWork | I wish they'd fix that |
| 04:35.18 | WobWork | or change it |
| 04:35.25 | WobWork | if they don't consider it something to fix |
| 04:35.27 | NightHawkTheSane | It's my long standing gripe with loot in WoW |
| 04:35.44 | WobWork | I don't mind if it drops and noone can use it but it can be sharded or sold... |
| 04:35.46 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: It's clearly a "we think this was a good idea", because its not like the token system doesn't exist |
| 04:35.50 | WobWork | but none of that can be sold/sharded |
| 04:36.46 | WobWork | A good idea to have stuff drop that nobody can use |
| 04:36.55 | WobWork | aside from typing "DELETE" |
| 04:37.12 | Tekkub | I totally sharded my pants |
| 04:37.56 | Tekkub | nah I just got an NPC to repair them |
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| 04:49.53 | Shirik|AFK | Iriel: I completely disagree |
| 04:50.06 | Shirik|Ecole | I love it, and can type rather fast on it |
| 04:50.12 | Shirik|Ecole | it takes some getting used to, admittedly |
| 04:50.17 | Shirik|Ecole | but I really like it |
| 04:50.32 | Shirik|Ecole | That being said, I have an interesting question |
| 04:50.59 | Shirik|Ecole | Every time I put my storm in its holder (belt clip), it auto-locks (and it's supposed to). It has a capability to know when it's in the holster, because it also changes its vibration settings while in the holster. |
| 04:51.02 | Shirik|Ecole | The question is: How does it know. |
| 04:51.15 | Iriel | My BB did the same |
| 04:51.18 | Shirik|Ecole | I was thinking RFID chip, but I tested that by placing it near, but outside the case, and it didn't trigger |
| 04:51.37 | Iriel | Magnet? |
| 04:51.37 | WobWork | light input to the sensor? |
| 04:51.51 | Shirik|Ecole | I think it might be a magnet |
| 04:52.02 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, BB's had a small peice of metal in the holster that created a trigger on the BB when inserted |
| 04:52.05 | Shirik|Ecole | that would explain the need for it to be facing a certain direction |
| 04:52.19 | Shirik|Ecole | I just tested it by folding the case flat and holding it against it, it locked |
| 04:52.19 | Iriel | if I remember where I put it I could look |
| 04:53.15 | Iriel | hm, no idea where it is |
| 04:53.37 | Shirik|Ecole | heh |
| 04:53.40 | Iriel | That seems to be consistent with either magnet or some kind of inductive loop (RFID or something MUCH simpler) |
| 04:53.42 | Shirik|Ecole | didn't use it that much? |
| 04:54.26 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah I agree it seems like a magnet |
| 04:54.43 | Iriel | the total lack of mac support annoyed me too much |
| 04:54.45 | Shirik|Ecole | hall effect sensors seem to be "in" these days |
| 04:54.48 | Iriel | I switched to a G1 |
| 04:54.57 | Shirik|Ecole | it's ok Iriel, the windows support isn't much better ^_^ |
| 04:55.05 | Thunder_Child | it was before RFID was practical |
| 04:55.10 | Thunder_Child | /cheap |
| 04:55.25 | Iriel | I used to have a keyboard with hall effect keys |
| 04:55.41 | Iriel | Picked it up at some random 2nd hand kind of place, a long time back |
| 04:55.47 | Shirik|Ecole | Thing that always bothered me about the iphone is the inability to feel the keys |
| 04:56.00 | Thunder_Child | haptics on the next one i assume |
| 04:56.14 | Shirik|Ecole | the storm alleviates that a little bit by being able to tell when you pushed a key; I still miss keys, but its autocorrect is amazingly smart |
| 04:56.35 | Shirik|Ecole | Though for a while it kept trying to correct Shirik into Shirk |
| 04:56.39 | Shirik|Ecole | ~dict shirk |
| 04:57.00 | Tekkub | that's what phones need... something that autocorrect "r" "u" and will NOT let you disable it |
| 04:57.13 | Shirik|Ecole | rofl |
| 04:57.19 | Thunder_Child | ~dict Shirik |
| 04:57.19 | WobWork | Tekkub: agreed |
| 04:57.20 | Shirik|Ecole | Verizon has the opposite |
| 04:57.24 | Thunder_Child | fail |
| 04:57.30 | Shirik|Ecole | Verizon has a feature to "TXT-ize" your message |
| 04:57.34 | Shirik|Ecole | turns it into that stuff |
| 04:57.40 | WobWork | ... |
| 04:57.42 | Tekkub | better yet, make it not accep the key sequence " r " |
| 04:58.03 | Tekkub | force the user to learn how to type correctly |
| 04:58.23 | Shirik|Ecole | o hi 2 u Tekkub, r u ok? |
| 04:58.33 | Tekkub | exactly |
| 04:58.39 | Shirik|Ecole | It is amusingly difficult to type like that for me |
| 04:58.43 | Shirik|Ecole | takes me like 3 times as long |
| 04:59.03 | Tekkub | if they made such a phone, and I had spawnlings, I'd force them to get that phone when, if ever, I got them a cell |
| 04:59.26 | Tekkub | yea, same here, I learned how to type propely, muscle memory is a bitch to overcome |
| 05:00.59 | Tekkub | every school needs a typing nazi like we had |
| 05:01.21 | Tekkub | she fucking scared proper typing posture and correct typing into people |
| 05:01.41 | Tekkub | she was great for accounting class too, threw erasers at people |
| 05:02.17 | Tekkub | and gave -5% on any assignment for every use of the word "receivables" |
| 05:02.33 | Tekkub | except my autocorrecter corrected that, fucker |
| 05:02.52 | Tekkub | recievables |
| 05:02.54 | Tekkub | ^^ |
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| 05:05.09 | Shirik|Berry | Y helo thar |
| 05:05.59 | Shirik|Berry | That was very hard to type with auto correct in the way... |
| 05:08.04 | Shirik|Ecole | my favorite part is that the wowi mod approval screen works perfectly ^_^ |
| 05:08.12 | Shirik|Ecole | on the blackberry |
| 05:08.23 | Shirik|Ecole | got a little auto-update screen |
| 05:08.30 | Tekkub | except the part where you delete the mod |
| 05:08.33 | Cairenn | :) |
| 05:08.41 | kd3 | sweet. welcome to tethering yourself to the crackberry wherever you go |
| 05:08.47 | kd3 | lemme know when you get committed |
| 05:08.50 | ScytheBlade1 | " |
| 05:08.53 | ScytheBlade1 | "10. Keep a text file handy containing Blizzard rep quotes. You never know when you can beat them over the head with their own words, properly interpreted." |
| 05:08.57 | Shirik|Ecole | Actually Tekkub, that's the most amusing part |
| 05:09.01 | ScytheBlade1 | --"Guide To Being a Lamewad on the Healing Forum" |
| 05:09.02 | Shirik|Ecole | I can't delete any mods |
| 05:09.13 | Shirik|Ecole | because the javascript that's used isn't supported for some reason |
| 05:09.19 | Shirik|Ecole | so the script just errors out |
| 05:09.35 | Shirik|Ecole | only approval works |
| 05:10.08 | Tekkub | also, agreed with kd3 |
| 05:10.18 | Tekkub | people are too goddamn dependent on their cell phones |
| 05:10.21 | Shirik|Ecole | My real reason for having it is for school |
| 05:10.25 | kd3 | my comment is why I only have a cell phone |
| 05:10.37 | kd3 | I fear getting a crackberry or a jesus phone |
| 05:10.39 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm involved on a lot of projects and I get a lot of slack for not checking my email neough |
| 05:10.40 | Tekkub | they're like little trained lab mice, the devices makes a noise and they answer it |
| 05:10.51 | Shirik|Ecole | so now I don't have that problem!! |
| 05:11.25 | Tekkub | I have a cell phone, for one stupid reason, so Trey can call from work every day and ask what I want for dinner, like it matters and he needs to know before he's home |
| 05:11.38 | Codayus | Heh |
| 05:12.01 | Shirik|Ecole | haha |
| 05:12.02 | Tekkub | put friggin 150 minutes on it every month to keep it active... it has... 657 unused minutes |
| 05:12.10 | Shirik|Ecole | rollover? |
| 05:12.20 | Tekkub | so long as I add time every month, da |
| 05:12.28 | Shirik|Ecole | oh is that the catch? |
| 05:12.31 | Shirik|Ecole | I was wondering about that |
| 05:12.37 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm with Verizon so I don't have that |
| 05:12.40 | Tekkub | just a ceapo prepaid |
| 05:12.42 | Shirik|Ecole | I just have unlimited plans |
| 05:12.59 | Tekkub | $15/mo is the cheapest service I can find, cell VoIP or... wait I won't consider a landline |
| 05:13.13 | Shirik|Ecole | I have a landline only for emergencies basically |
| 05:13.13 | kd3 | screw land lines |
| 05:13.16 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't even know the number |
| 05:13.21 | Shirik|Ecole | When it rings, I ignore it |
| 05:13.27 | Shirik|Ecole | I used to check caller ID, I don't even bother anymore |
| 05:13.34 | Tekkub | so you pay how much a month for "just for emergencies"? |
| 05:13.43 | Shirik|Ecole | hell if I know, I'm not paying for it |
| 05:13.57 | Tekkub | when a cell works fine unless your emergency is "I'm choking" |
| 05:13.59 | Codayus | Landlines aren't a bad idea for that. Cell networks are extremely liable to fall over in an emergency, and voip doesn't work so great without power, like as not. |
| 05:14.04 | Tekkub | ah one of THOSE |
| 05:14.12 | Tekkub | yea that's not you keeping a landline |
| 05:14.16 | Shirik|Ecole | Tekkub: I used to have a habit of not charging my phone :P |
| 05:14.24 | Tekkub | that's you not telling the phone co it's still hooked up |
| 05:14.41 | Shirik|Ecole | Oh! |
| 05:14.45 | Shirik|Ecole | I do have one other use for my landline |
| 05:14.50 | Shirik|Ecole | for calling my cell phone so I can find it |
| 05:14.55 | Tekkub | right |
| 05:15.11 | Tekkub | both of which could be fixed correctly with shock therapy |
| 05:15.24 | Shirik|Ecole | I probably could use some shock therapy right now |
| 05:15.40 | Tekkub | braindamage is not a valid excuse for paying for a landline |
| 05:15.44 | Tekkub | good thing you don't pay |
| 05:16.30 | Cairenn | my landline is my "home" phone, my cell is my "emergency" :p |
| 05:17.31 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah |
| 05:17.33 | Shirik|Ecole | but you're from canada |
| 05:17.37 | Shirik|Ecole | you do everything backwards |
| 05:17.43 | Cairenn | yeah - rates f'ing suck |
| 05:17.50 | Shirik|Ecole | I mean |
| 05:17.52 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah, rates |
| 05:17.54 | Tekkub | rate fucking suck here too |
| 05:17.55 | Shirik|Ecole | that's what I meant to say |
| 05:18.13 | Tekkub | the thing is, stupid americans are trained to pick up the thing when it rings |
| 05:18.20 | Tekkub | so they think they need all those minutes |
| 05:18.48 | Iriel | Cell plans dont seem to have rational international rates either |
| 05:19.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Which is why the internet exists |
| 05:19.40 | Tekkub | "3L - 2-Liter Bottle" |
| 05:19.41 | Tekkub | hehe |
| 05:19.47 | ScytheBlade1 | It has one of the most rational international rates ever! |
| 05:19.58 | Codayus | Tekkub: Heh, I was just reading that. |
| 05:20.02 | Cairenn | I'm quite happy with my $5/month for 16+hr long distance anywhere in Canada/US on my landline |
| 05:20.12 | Cairenn | not a chance in hell I could get that on a cell up here |
| 05:20.21 | Shirik|Ecole | that's pretty good |
| 05:20.28 | Shirik|Ecole | that's very good :/ |
| 05:20.37 | Codayus | I liked the mass table. |
| 05:21.48 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14133096173&sid=1 |
| 05:21.51 | Thunder_Child | make everyone call you, it's much cheaper |
| 05:21.53 | ScytheBlade1 | That guy is kind of insane |
| 05:22.05 | Adys | wow |
| 05:22.16 | Adys | since when is the facebook.com homepage... attractive and uncluttered? |
| 05:23.06 | Codayus | ScytheBlade1: The...hell?! |
| 05:23.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Codayus: my thoughts exactly |
| 05:23.27 | Thunder_Child | it's in the logs Shirik |
| 05:23.29 | Shirik|Ecole | I forgot to tell you the reason I got this blackberry |
| 05:23.38 | Shirik|Ecole | My mom sent my old phone through the wash, lol |
| 05:23.44 | Shirik|Ecole | right before my flight |
| 05:24.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Codayus: something tells me that this is related to totem stomping |
| 05:25.17 | Iriel | ScytheBlade1: he posted his code |
| 05:25.41 | Tem | Shirik, so you have a storm? |
| 05:26.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Now I'm just lost |
| 05:26.35 | Codayus | That code is making my head hurt. |
| 05:26.37 | Tekkub | Cairenn, yea $5 for a landline here? fuck no, they're at least $20, and probably more like $35 these days |
| 05:27.21 | Cairenn | no no - that's the LD plan - the local/having it is a separate cost |
| 05:27.34 | Codayus | I think he's...um...trying to make a button for everything nearby that can be cliked to target it, by...trying every possible combination of letters? Wait, that's not it. |
| 05:27.59 | Tekkub | ah |
| 05:29.08 | AbsoRayne | WHY IS FISH TYCOON SO HORRIBLY ADDICTING?! |
| 05:29.43 | Iriel | I think this may be an attempt to enumerate all local units |
| 05:29.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm thinking you're right |
| 05:30.04 | Iriel | Something which slouken directly said they have no interest in letting people do |
| 05:31.00 | Codayus | Oh, wait, that might make more sense.; |
| 05:31.03 | ScytheBlade1 | No other reason to index the alphabeta like that |
| 05:31.08 | ScytheBlade1 | s/beta/bet/ |
| 05:31.54 | Codayus | ...whatever it is, it's Bad. |
| 05:32.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 05:32.14 | ScytheBlade1 | "It's supposed to populate Targets_targets with the names of every visible unit." |
| 05:32.16 | Iriel | I wonder if I should suggest a limit on number of targetexact's in a single hardware event. |
| 05:32.31 | Tekkub | giving DOlby shit is so much fun |
| 05:32.38 | Tekkub | s/O/o/ |
| 05:33.28 | Tekkub | speaking of sed... |
| 05:33.48 | Codayus | Ah, right. Hm. I really don't see the point then. Still a Bad Thing. |
| 05:33.59 | Tekkub | so I joined this guild, and from general chat I wasn't thinking too highly of them... then I used s/.../.../ thinking no one would get it |
| 05:34.06 | Tekkub | but like 2 min later someone else did it too |
| 05:34.25 | Codayus | Heh |
| 05:39.22 | Arrowmaster | did they do it properly with the ending /? |
| 05:39.37 | Tekkub | yea, he did it correctly |
| 05:39.42 | Arrowmaster | wow |
| 05:39.59 | Tekkub | no one said anything,k I think they thought we had cats or something |
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| 05:43.27 | WobWork | hehe |
| 05:43.30 | WobWork | sed |
| 05:44.14 | WobWork | Back on a MUD I coded on, one of the Directors was explaining on cre channel how to use sar, and used the example "s/a/e/g" |
| 05:44.24 | WobWork | however, he forgot to prefix it with 'cre' |
| 05:44.34 | WobWork | so he changed every single file he had checked out with s/a/e |
| 05:45.03 | WobWork | It was surprising how little broke, but every single priest ritual then sounded like it had turned south african =P |
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| 06:03.57 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: thats hilarious |
| 06:07.02 | WobWork | no no, thet wes hillerious =) |
| 06:07.13 | NightHawkTheSane | hahah |
| 06:07.28 | NightHawkTheSane | or.. heheh |
| 06:09.46 | Tekkub | can you paid-transfer fro PvE to PvP now? |
| 06:09.50 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 06:09.58 | Tekkub | bum |
| 06:10.09 | Tekkub | I was hoping I could just say "oh, can't" |
| 06:10.32 | Tekkub | we're having a fucking fight because I refuse to go to a PvP realm |
| 06:11.02 | Tekkub | he seems to think that because he knows 3 people on that realm, he'll like it more than the PvE one we're on, and that he'd actually play more |
| 06:11.29 | Tekkub | where I think he'll play much MUCH less, considering he doesn't have the attention span already, and I hated PvP so he'll hate it even more |
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| 07:18.22 | Torhal | Tekkub: Some guy just tried to convince me to add a feature to Revelation by mentioning your name. |
| 07:18.26 | Torhal | I did a LOLWTF. |
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| 07:41.32 | grier | Hello, another addon noob come to beg for help |
| 07:41.51 | grier | anyone here? |
| 07:41.56 | Thunder_Child | nope |
| 07:42.59 | grier | So I have an addon that's supposed to respond to guild messages, but as far as I can tell it doesn't even get to the "register for event" part |
| 07:43.17 | grier | I threw a few message() calls in for debugging purposes, but nothing shows up |
| 07:43.36 | grier | should I put the code on the http://wowi.pastey.net/ site? |
| 07:44.23 | mikma | torhal: i know tekkub, can you add feature in your addon? |
| 07:49.23 | mikma | tekkub: make him play war nonstop for 6months. that'll take the pvp out of him. atleast it worked with my friend |
| 07:56.42 | grier | heh, I thought you were joking with the "nope" |
| 07:56.52 | grier | No matter, 2am isn't the best time to get help. |
| 08:02.54 | Fisker- | hey Torhal |
| 08:02.56 | Fisker- | i'm Tekkub |
| 08:02.59 | Fisker- | please add features |
| 08:03.30 | Aiiane | hey Fisker- |
| 08:03.32 | Aiiane | im Fisker- |
| 08:03.37 | Aiiane | please add Fisker-s |
| 08:03.54 | Fisker- | FFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU- |
| 08:05.57 | Tekkub | Torhal, okey so he thinks invoking my name gets things done? |
| 08:06.07 | Tekkub | if just get TC all hot for hit foxtail |
| 08:06.18 | Tekkub | *it *gets |
| 08:06.22 | Tekkub | fuck you fingers |
| 08:06.28 | Aiiane | ...kinky |
| 08:06.44 | Corrodias | oh dear, now you've gone and gotten me all excited |
| 08:06.45 | Tekkub | *his |
| 08:06.50 | Tekkub | god that was just fail |
| 08:06.56 | mikma | try again |
| 08:07.04 | mikma | it'll work nicely |
| 08:07.12 | Tekkub | blah blah inflatable dildo |
| 08:07.15 | Tekkub | there |
| 08:07.29 | mikma | ~inflatabledildos |
| 08:08.34 | Corrodias | hmm? |
| 08:08.51 | Corrodias | that wouldn't work well at all, unless you had some kind of pump |
| 08:09.19 | mikma | ... |
| 08:09.31 | Tekkub | it comes with a hand pump |
| 08:09.34 | mikma | why do you think it has "inflatablez" in it |
| 08:09.36 | Corrodias | not enough air pressure to maintain the shape, you see |
| 08:09.39 | mikma | -z |
| 08:09.51 | Corrodias | balloons are inflatable, but can be inflated orally |
| 08:09.51 | Tekkub | and I think I just had the greatest feature request ever.... |
| 08:09.52 | mikma | yes, enough preasure |
| 08:09.54 | Corrodias | they don't require a pump |
| 08:09.59 | mikma | the pump has a airlock |
| 08:10.23 | Corrodias | but i don't think you would generate enough air pressure to maintain a proper dildo shape without a pump, yes. |
| 08:10.50 | mikma | go and buy a reguåar dildo |
| 08:10.55 | Tekkub | "I expect this would be time consuming if not entirely unfeesable... I've not tried it myself so I don't know if it would work....... I don't really need this feature myself, but I'm sure someone does" |
| 08:10.56 | Corrodias | i could be wrong, of course. i have no practical experience in this matter. |
| 08:10.57 | mikma | see hoe it keeps the shape... |
| 08:11.29 | Corrodias | Tekkub: do they ever get around to saying what the feature -is-? |
| 08:11.40 | Tekkub | yea that doesn't matter |
| 08:11.49 | Tekkub | I just edited it down to the good parts |
| 08:11.57 | Aiiane | Tekkub: you should implement a submacopter |
| 08:12.38 | Aiiane | http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1294 |
| 08:12.47 | Tekkub | I could swear I bought cloth before we went off to watch Sanctuary |
| 08:14.24 | sacarasc | i stole it |
| 08:14.28 | sacarasc | mwahahahahaha! |
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| 08:37.41 | Fisker- | hey Tekkub |
| 08:37.45 | Fisker- | just how awesome is panda? |
| 08:38.16 | Tekkub | not awesome enough to get features added to Torhal's addon, stop fucking asking |
| 08:38.33 | Fisker- | :O |
| 08:39.08 | Fisker- | btw do you use ninjapanel for ldb? |
| 08:39.16 | Tekkub | no |
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| 08:53.56 | Fisker- | btw Tekkub level 75+ greens will yield GCE and not LCE |
| 08:54.33 | Tekkub | k |
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| 10:00.59 | m3lin | after created a frame with CreateFrame, how can I delete it? |
| 10:01.14 | Arrowmaster | you dont |
| 10:01.32 | m3lin | so what I can do is hide it? |
| 10:01.40 | Arrowmaster | i guess |
| 10:02.00 | m3lin | meh.. there _should_ be a way to remove frames :P |
| 10:02.02 | Arrowmaster | but frames once created can never be deleted |
| 10:03.09 | m3lin | another question then, to create a playermodel I do this: ABS_MountModel = CreateFrame("model", nil, ABS_MountMenu) right? |
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| 10:14.40 | m3lin | when I do SetModel to my modelframe, all I get is blue and white squares |
| 10:14.44 | m3lin | anyone know why? |
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| 11:08.23 | m3lin | on a SetScript("OnMouseDown".. how do I detect if its the left or right mousebutton? |
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| 11:09.51 | Mackatack | you'll also have to :RegisterForClicks("AnyUp"); |
| 11:10.25 | Mackatack | this will pass "LeftButton", "RightButton", "MiddleButton", "Button4", "Button5" as parameter to the event handler |
| 11:10.31 | m3lin | ah |
| 11:10.49 | Mackatack | normally it only passes LeftButton |
| 11:11.01 | m3lin | and then: :SetScript("OnMouseDown", function(button) |
| 11:11.19 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 11:11.27 | Arrowmaster | function(self, button, down) |
| 11:11.41 | m3lin | ok, thanks |
| 11:11.57 | Mackatack | perhaps you should look at the RegisterForClicks reference |
| 11:12.14 | Mackatack | coz i have only used it for MouseUp, not MouseDown events |
| 11:12.21 | Arrowmaster | er OnMouseDown is function(self, button) |
| 11:12.27 | m3lin | Im checking it now =) |
| 11:12.48 | Arrowmaster | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/scripts/OnMouseDown |
| 11:13.27 | Arrowmaster | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/scripts/OnClick |
| 11:14.47 | m3lin | yeps - working now =) |
| 11:15.01 | Arrowmaster | i think you only have to use :RegisterForClicks() with OnClick |
| 11:15.37 | Mackatack | you'll find out soon enough i guess ;) |
| 11:16.07 | m3lin | I dont have to use registerforclick at all for onclick |
| 11:16.23 | Mackatack | is it trapping rightclicks then? |
| 11:16.30 | Arrowmaster | if you want anything besides leftup you do afaik |
| 11:16.37 | m3lin | nope, but its not an onclick event, its mousedown =) |
| 11:16.50 | m3lin | for the onclick its only leftbutton usage - in this addon anyway |
| 11:17.04 | Arrowmaster | right and i dont think anything but onclick uses registerforclicks |
| 11:17.17 | Mackatack | kk, good to know |
| 11:17.36 | Arrowmaster | because registerforclicks doesnt show up in the api doc on wowprogramming.com for any frame type that doesnt have an onclick |
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| 11:19.01 | hipjipp | 'Day people! anyone else not being able to get into the world? (WoW ofc) |
| 11:19.59 | hipjipp | i can't get past the damned "authenticating" window.. <.< |
| 11:20.34 | sacarasc | it happens sometimes |
| 11:21.14 | hipjipp | any ideas? just wait it out? seems like blizzards servers are a bit tired atm.. :/ |
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| 12:30.53 | Mike-N-Go | Yay, I froze my WoW with unending recursion! |
| 12:31.26 | Kalroth | * Mike-N-Go is now known as Mike-No-Go. |
| 12:35.47 | Mike-N-Go | The script version I give you: /script function a() return a() end a() |
| 12:37.06 | Ian_corne | duh.. |
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| 13:44.50 | m3lin | anyone got a macro that will tell me the framename of the item Im pointing at? :P |
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| 13:50.14 | alestane | I think it's mentioned more than once on the forum. Something along the lines of /run print(GetMouseFocus():GetName()) |
| 13:51.42 | m3lin | oh.. we have a forum :D |
| 13:54.21 | alestane | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=11114&sid=1 |
| 14:00.01 | alestane | I like it when in the middle of telling someone something isn't possible, I realize that it is. |
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| 14:19.02 | m3lin | alestane you know if any event is triggered when I open the Auctions tab in the AH? (as in, my items gets listed) |
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| 14:20.36 | Kraps | you know what the worst thing about naax is? the bosses aren't hard. just some of the mechanics make you want to hang yourself |
| 14:22.14 | Wobin | m3lin: or use WheresMyCow |
| 14:22.49 | m3lin | Wobin? |
| 14:25.56 | Wobin | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7186-WheresMyCow.html |
| 14:27.19 | m3lin | ah |
| 14:27.23 | m3lin | nice |
| 14:27.26 | m3lin | and thanks =) |
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| 15:36.56 | alestane | Madness? |
| 15:37.32 | Lopeppeppy | Total madness. |
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| 15:41.52 | AbsoRayne | Lopeppeppy: Peppy!! |
| 15:42.22 | zenzelezz | omg, the Peppy's back :-o |
| 15:42.49 | Lopeppeppy | OMG, winter break is over, and here I am! *happy hugs* I missed you all! |
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| 15:44.19 | AbsoRayne | Friggin Fish Tycoon @)@ |
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| 15:44.24 | AbsoRayne | Too addicting |
| 15:44.38 | Lopeppeppy | What is a fish tycoon? |
| 15:45.23 | AbsoRayne | http://fishtycoon.com/ |
| 15:46.56 | Lopeppeppy | Oh dear. I like fishes. |
| 15:47.24 | AbsoRayne | Minus Media Player Classic |
| 15:47.29 | AbsoRayne | Whats a good player for MKV? |
| 15:49.43 | AbsoRayne | For some reason, the subtitles arent working |
| 15:50.03 | AbsoRayne | oh n, got em |
| 15:50.04 | AbsoRayne | @ |
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| 16:06.10 | AbsoRayne | Lopeppeppy: Poke |
| 16:06.32 | Lopeppeppy | AbsoRayne: Giggle |
| 16:06.42 | AbsoRayne | Lopeppeppy: New Cherry Lite tonight |
| 16:07.05 | Lopeppeppy | Really? Excellent! I won't get to install until Tuesday night, unless dinner date is canceled, but awesome. |
| 16:07.14 | AbsoRayne | http://i40.tinypic.com/rrjbs1.jpg || http://i39.tinypic.com/2s7hwms.jpg |
| 16:08.06 | Industrial | i'd like it better without textures |
| 16:08.11 | Industrial | but im crazy >_O |
| 16:08.15 | Lopeppeppy | Nummy. What resolution is it set up for natively, I forget? |
| 16:08.23 | AbsoRayne | 1440x900 |
| 16:09.15 | Lopeppeppy | Close to my laptop. I always have to adjust a bit since I'm a bit smaller. But it's pretty and yummy stuff. Thanks for the update! |
| 16:10.21 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Shirik! What's the Berry? Are you Crackberry enabled now? |
| 16:10.26 | Shirik|Ecole | yes I am |
| 16:10.35 | Shirik|Ecole | though that thing should not still be connected |
| 16:10.35 | Lopeppeppy | Oh dear, our world will never be the same. |
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| 16:10.46 | Lopeppeppy | I don't let my crackberry see the interwebs, too expensive. |
| 16:11.19 | AbsoRayne | Ive been considering setting up my wifes new Monitor with my UI |
| 16:11.22 | AbsoRayne | O_o |
| 16:11.50 | AbsoRayne | She has like the widest 16:9 ive ever seen O_o |
| 16:12.03 | Lopeppeppy | Oh dear. What dose she say about this monitor thievery? |
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| 16:13.20 | Industrial | AbsoRayne: that would also be the highest then :P |
| 16:13.40 | AbsoRayne | 1600x900 O_o Im so Jealous |
| 16:14.01 | Industrial | 1680x1050? |
| 16:14.06 | Industrial | oh, thats 16:10 |
| 16:14.11 | AbsoRayne | yeah thats 16:10 |
| 16:15.22 | zenzelezz | so you like it wide |
| 16:15.29 | AbsoRayne | I prefer it |
| 16:15.48 | AbsoRayne | Ive had this 19" for years, I either way yo get a second one, or a larger one |
| 16:16.18 | zenzelezz | way yo get? |
| 16:16.29 | zenzelezz | I like my 24", 24" and 19" |
| 16:16.42 | AbsoRayne | want to* |
| 16:16.48 | AbsoRayne | my god what is wrong with me today |
| 16:17.02 | Lopeppeppy | I have a 22" wide screen on my desktop, my laptop is 15" widescreen. |
| 16:17.12 | Tewan | http://i39.tinypic.com/2s7hwms.jpg |
| 16:17.16 | Tewan | That looks noic. |
| 16:17.25 | AbsoRayne | Tewan: ty :) |
| 16:19.24 | Tewan | AbsoRayne, I'm guessing you do the same as me... look up at the sky to have a nice bright uncluttered view to do your interface? |
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| 16:20.06 | AbsoRayne | Tewan: Its the only way to really make sure the gradients bled correctly, and all the lines are connected. |
| 16:21.00 | Tewan | Aye. :P |
| 16:21.37 | Tewan | Ugh |
| 16:21.40 | Tewan | I wanna play WoW |
| 16:21.46 | Lopeppeppy | Grblglblrgl. |
| 16:21.48 | Tewan | Gotta finish this damn website first though. |
| 16:22.00 | Shirik|Ecole | Lopeppeppy is a murlock? |
| 16:22.15 | AbsoRayne | Lopeppeppy: Dont eat me :< |
| 16:22.15 | Tewan | Murloc Warlock? :O |
| 16:22.25 | Lopeppeppy | If I had a murloc... *blrglblrglrblgleblblgl* |
| 16:22.28 | Lopeppeppy | If I had a murloc pet! |
| 16:23.06 | alestane | Oh if I had a murloc/I'd squish it in the morning/I'dsquish it in the evening/all over this land.... |
| 16:23.13 | Shirik|Ecole | what's that site that you can upload a file to and it scans it with like 20 different virus scanners? |
| 16:23.17 | Lopeppeppy | eeew, alestane. |
| 16:23.17 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: Steffani? |
| 16:23.45 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz... youtube! |
| 16:23.56 | zenzelezz | it fit the melody |
| 16:23.59 | Tewan | I hate myself |
| 16:24.18 | Tewan | I mistyped Web for my folder, so I made a file inside saying "This should actually be Web" instead of renaming it |
| 16:24.18 | Tewan | >_> |
| 16:25.07 | Dewin | Shirik: virusscan.jotti.org is one of them |
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| 16:29.59 | Olorin | anyone know what kinda hitpoints you can get up to on a paladin without actually raiding? ie with titansteel armor with bought frozen orbs etc... |
| 16:31.21 | ANTRat | Shirik|Ecole: virustotal.com |
| 16:34.04 | Shirik|Ecole | thanks Antiarc |
| 16:34.06 | Shirik|Ecole | ANTRat* |
| 16:34.09 | Shirik|Ecole | that's what I was looking for |
| 16:36.04 | Lyn | Industrial, ! |
| 16:36.31 | Lyn | indie, gief calamity grasp plx plx :) i thought you were a big elemental fan |
| 16:36.31 | Industrial | Lyn: ! |
| 16:36.32 | Industrial | sup |
| 16:36.36 | Industrial | HAHAHA |
| 16:36.40 | Lyn | :D |
| 16:36.42 | Industrial | s/A/E/g |
| 16:36.54 | Lyn | ^^ |
| 16:36.55 | Industrial | i rolled enhancement in wotlk |
| 16:36.59 | Lyn | nice nice, me too |
| 16:37.04 | Lyn | but i will test ele with patch |
| 16:37.09 | Lyn | cause my ele gear is better XD |
| 16:37.20 | Industrial | heh |
| 16:37.26 | Industrial | ele will be pretty imba |
| 16:37.30 | Lyn | hope so |
| 16:37.31 | Industrial | i do about 3k, 3.3k dps |
| 16:37.37 | Lyn | nais |
| 16:37.41 | Lyn | ptr up? |
| 16:37.43 | Industrial | patch tonight so i can test and link wws since last patch i got some upgrades |
| 16:37.46 | Industrial | dunno |
| 16:37.53 | Industrial | patchwerk* |
| 16:37.58 | Lyn | ah |
| 16:38.06 | Lyn | yeah show me your enhance dps :) |
| 16:38.33 | Industrial | im still not best in slot for everything tho |
| 16:38.37 | Lyn | i was patch yesterday, was dissapointing cause some DKs with low equip but with the omgrofl-6kdps-dw spec were there :x |
| 16:38.38 | Lyn | i know |
| 16:38.39 | Lyn | but |
| 16:38.41 | Industrial | need malygos head and gloves, trinkets etc |
| 16:38.46 | Lyn | :) |
| 16:38.55 | Industrial | 6kdps dw? |
| 16:38.57 | Industrial | do tell |
| 16:38.58 | Industrial | :P |
| 16:39.07 | Lyn | with frost/unholy spec |
| 16:39.11 | Industrial | our best dk is doing 4k |
| 16:39.15 | Lyn | what spec? |
| 16:39.20 | Industrial | dunno sec |
| 16:39.55 | Lyn | i currently play on english realm for raiding... for blood spec i was really good, but all other DKs were thes "aw so funky dw spec" :O sucks |
| 16:40.00 | Industrial | blood |
| 16:40.07 | Industrial | 51/13/7 |
| 16:40.16 | Lyn | yeah |
| 16:40.17 | Lyn | have same |
| 16:40.21 | Lyn | same dps |
| 16:40.22 | Lyn | 4k |
| 16:40.24 | Lyn | maximum |
| 16:40.32 | Lyn | some good times may 4,5 |
| 16:40.40 | Lyn | but thats the ultra maximum.. sadly |
| 16:41.41 | Lyn | you need more hit tbh :p |
| 16:41.55 | Industrial | more? na |
| 16:42.02 | Industrial | im already over the spell hit by 1% |
| 16:42.07 | Industrial | i need to cap expertise |
| 16:42.09 | sb | wtb 3.0.8 :/ |
| 16:42.13 | Industrial | first |
| 16:42.20 | Industrial | then APAPAPPAAPAP CRITCRITCRIT |
| 16:42.32 | Lyn | sb, me too :P and my ud priest have to hit 60 finally |
| 16:43.29 | Lyn | Industrial, which lvl i get lava burst? 75? |
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| 16:47.14 | Lyn | anyone knows a small swing timer? |
| 16:48.29 | Industrial | 75 y |
| 16:48.34 | Industrial | swing timer? for? |
| 16:48.38 | Industrial | dont really need it :P |
| 16:48.52 | Industrial | theres no timing in enhancement dps, just mash anything off cooldown |
| 16:49.08 | Lyn | i need one for 2h dk |
| 16:49.09 | Lyn | maybe |
| 16:49.11 | Lyn | wanna test it |
| 16:49.15 | Lyn | mh.. |
| 16:49.18 | Industrial | k |
| 16:49.24 | Lyn | ah no, dont need i |
| 16:49.28 | Lyn | t |
| 16:50.05 | Lyn | nice, so next level i got lava burst |
| 16:50.06 | Lyn | fine fine |
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| 17:08.01 | Industrial | yeah lyn |
| 17:08.13 | Industrial | I made some calculation for an elemental rotation |
| 17:08.30 | Industrial | /castsequence reset=target/combat Flame Shock, Lightning Bolt, Lava Burst, Chain Lightning, Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt, Chain Lightning, Lava Burst, Lightning Bolt, Chain Lightning |
| 17:08.34 | Industrial | :P |
| 17:09.02 | Industrial | next patch the 3.5sec chain lightning will disappear right? (or not?) |
| 17:09.13 | Lopeppeppy | Doesn't that hurt your I Win finger? |
| 17:09.35 | Industrial | anyway theres a lightningbolt in between FS and LB because the second time around there will be a cd on LB still on so you cant cast it right after FS |
| 17:09.53 | Industrial | Lopeppeppy: nah, i only have to hold the key to spam it |
| 17:10.00 | Industrial | <-- lazy |
| 17:10.17 | Industrial | ^^ |
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| 17:13.08 | Industrial | and I just got my first epic flying \o/ |
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| 17:15.05 | Lyn | Industrial, lol @ macro |
| 17:15.33 | Lyn | Industrial, i got my second \o/ |
| 17:15.35 | Lyn | :P |
| 17:15.41 | Lyn | installing ptr right now |
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| 17:16.58 | Lunessa | Well, as Enhancement Shaman DPS I use a macro - castsequence Stormstrike andLava Lash - makes life much easier in a fight. |
| 17:17.23 | Lyn | yy |
| 17:17.35 | Lyn | enhance only have 3-4 buttons w/o totems |
| 17:17.40 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa! |
| 17:17.43 | Lyn | thats awesome |
| 17:17.46 | Lunessa | Peppy! |
| 17:17.50 | Lopeppeppy | Oh my gosh, I haven't seen you in forever, how are you? :P |
| 17:17.58 | Lyn | i love to play my shammy, big dps for low effor |
| 17:18.17 | Lunessa | Awake, and cursing network swtich upgrades, and phone system overhaul. |
| 17:18.48 | Tem | I don't know what's going on above me, but it sounds like they're trying to tear down the floor |
| 17:18.55 | Tem | and enter my apartment from above |
| 17:19.00 | AbsoRayne | XD I already love this show |
| 17:19.16 | Tewan | [11:13] <Industrial> and I just got my first epic flying \o/ |
| 17:19.19 | Tem | but there's something loud and metal blocking their way |
| 17:19.31 | Lopeppeppy | Tem: Suggest moving to another room before you wear said huge metal thing. |
| 17:19.32 | Tewan | Why do you torture me? D: |
| 17:19.39 | Industrial | scuse me? |
| 17:19.45 | Industrial | i quesed myASS off for that. |
| 17:19.46 | Lunessa | Tem: Maybe they're just into really energetic, rough, furniture-enabled mating practices? |
| 17:19.55 | Industrial | Lunessa: what I do is use MacroSequence and then EnnhancementShamanDPS={reset={target=true,combat=true},[[/use 13/use 14],'/cast Stormstrike','/cast Earth Shock','/cast Lava Lash'} |
| 17:19.58 | Tem | I suspect they're getting new carpet |
| 17:20.04 | Tewan | I've been questing/professioning my ass off for mine |
| 17:20.05 | Tem | but it's fucking annoying |
| 17:20.09 | Tewan | and I'm still 2000g short |
| 17:20.12 | Tem | I'm /really/ glad I'm not trying to sleep |
| 17:20.22 | Industrial | Lunessa: this is the complete enhancement dps on 1 button except for lightningbolt because its dependent on 5*MW proc |
| 17:20.25 | Lunessa | Industrial: I didn't post the full macro, but I do a few more things in it. |
| 17:20.35 | Industrial | like? |
| 17:20.46 | Lopeppeppy | Metal for a new carpet, Tem? I was thinking plumbing work. |
| 17:20.49 | Lunessa | Here.. I'll dug up my pastey |
| 17:21.29 | Industrial | k |
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| 17:23.03 | Tem | oh fucking lol |
| 17:23.13 | Tem | at 350 BS I get to move on to northrend mats |
| 17:23.24 | Tem | I ran out of outland mats at 349 |
| 17:23.50 | Lyn | Industrial, boohja.. my shammy looks so hawt :) |
| 17:24.09 | Industrial | in t6? ^^ |
| 17:24.15 | Industrial | imgo t6 > t7 in looks |
| 17:24.19 | Lyn | nooo not in t6 |
| 17:24.20 | Lyn | in |
| 17:24.22 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, Tem. *hugs* |
| 17:24.25 | Industrial | best set so far in wow as far as looks go |
| 17:24.32 | Lyn | RANDOM-BT-MH-SWP-HEROIC stuff |
| 17:24.35 | Lyn | yy t6 was hawt |
| 17:24.38 | foxlit | what, not T2? |
| 17:24.42 | Industrial | no |
| 17:24.48 | Lyn | i hope ele will rock, so i can put it on again |
| 17:24.51 | Tem | T2 was the best looking set for almost everyone |
| 17:24.56 | Industrial | ele will OWN next patch |
| 17:25.03 | Shirik|Ecole | "The American Heart Association says 'For every hour of walking we do, we could live two hours longer.'" |
| 17:25.06 | Industrial | Tem: BANANAdin? |
| 17:25.07 | Shirik|Ecole | Anyone want to explain that one? |
| 17:25.07 | Cide | T2 was pro |
| 17:25.10 | Cide | <3 Transcendence |
| 17:25.13 | Shirik|Ecole | what if I never stop walking? |
| 17:25.26 | Lyn | my priest is only near thirty :( wanna lvl it |
| 17:25.31 | Lunessa | Here's my generic Melee Macro for my shaman: http://pastey.net/105593-25d9 |
| 17:25.35 | AbsoRayne | I almost solo'd Garr in MC last night |
| 17:25.37 | alestane | Shirik|Ecole: Then you fall off. |
| 17:25.37 | AbsoRayne | :( |
| 17:25.45 | Shirik|Ecole | the edge of the world? |
| 17:25.49 | Codayus | Priest T2 was ugly. :-( |
| 17:25.54 | alestane | The edge of something. |
| 17:26.10 | Codayus | It looked like Michael Jackson's bathrobe. |
| 17:26.46 | Shirik|Ecole | how do you know what Michael Jackson's bathrobe looks like? |
| 17:26.57 | Lunessa | Shirik: Keep walking, live forever bishes! |
| 17:27.02 | Lyn | want sexy priest in t6 or t7<33 |
| 17:27.28 | sb | i has! |
| 17:27.33 | sb | not... :/ |
| 17:27.34 | Lyn | i know :< |
| 17:27.35 | Lyn | lol |
| 17:27.43 | Lyn | sb, what classes do you need atm? :P nothing right? |
| 17:27.45 | AbsoRayne | T3 / 7 for Priests was the best looking |
| 17:27.50 | AbsoRayne | Same with T3/7 for Druids |
| 17:27.56 | Shirik|Ecole | T7 was ugly |
| 17:27.58 | Codayus | T3 > T7, IMHO. And yes. |
| 17:28.01 | Shirik|Ecole | so was T3 |
| 17:28.13 | Lyn | i love rogue t2 .. and the awesome shoulders of t1 :D |
| 17:28.14 | Shirik|Ecole | wait no, I don't know T3 |
| 17:28.18 | sb | Lyn: maybe warlock... but not critical at the moment |
| 17:28.21 | Olorin | damn some people have no ethics, trying to cut in on my mining a titanite node |
| 17:28.33 | AbsoRayne | The re-colored Lock T7 looks great compared to the old one |
| 17:28.37 | Lyn | sb, kk :) dont have this, only priest in some weeks/months XD and 60 orc dk |
| 17:28.39 | Shirik|Ecole | but T7 priest looks ugly, except the shoulders |
| 17:28.47 | sb | Olison: write ticket, he will get 24h ban :p |
| 17:28.47 | Shirik|Ecole | the shoulders are interesting.... but not great |
| 17:28.54 | sb | Olorin even |
| 17:29.16 | Lyn | oh some horde guys did same when i was farming saronite and titan :< |
| 17:29.40 | Olorin | its not even like its as rare as khorium was |
| 17:29.47 | Olorin | err is |
| 17:29.50 | sb | i heared something about 24h bans... :o |
| 17:29.56 | Lyn | :O |
| 17:29.59 | Lunessa | But depending on your server, very lucrative to farm. |
| 17:30.19 | Lyn | mh |
| 17:31.19 | Lyn | sb, who is this rogue of your guild.. with name.. meza.. moza.. dunno exactly, undead one |
| 17:32.14 | sb | level? |
| 17:32.25 | Lyn | 80 |
| 17:32.30 | Lyn | but not that super duper equip |
| 17:32.38 | Lyn | some epics, mostly blues and some 70 epics |
| 17:33.11 | sb | could be me :p |
| 17:33.18 | Lyn | mordac |
| 17:33.21 | sb | yap |
| 17:33.23 | Lyn | haha :P |
| 17:33.42 | cog|work | if an engine is 30% energy efficient and the car gets 20 MPG, what would the MPG be if the engine were 100% efficient? Would it simply be 20 / 0.3 = 66 2/3 MPG? |
| 17:34.15 | sb | what "haha"? |
| 17:34.25 | Lyn | nothing :) was just wondering |
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| 17:35.13 | Amarande | G'afternoon. :) |
| 17:36.21 | Lunessa | cog|work: 100% energy effiency is a myth, but... that looks more or less right to me. |
| 17:36.39 | Cide | the math is correct |
| 17:36.49 | Cide | but you'd need it to be 100% efficient across the board |
| 17:37.13 | ZorbaTHut | cide, we're only being told that the engine is 30% efficient |
| 17:37.16 | cog|work | yes i know this :P |
| 17:37.20 | ZorbaTHut | the other efficiencies are presumably just a hidden factor |
| 17:37.39 | Cide | in which case the answer would in practice be incorrect |
| 17:37.42 | ZorbaTHut | if the engine is 30% and the transmission is 50% and the car gets 20mpg, then the engine going up to 100% would still result in 66.6mpg |
| 17:37.46 | ZorbaTHut | even if the transmission is still 50% |
| 17:37.56 | cog|work | i'm still trying to convince my step grandpa that his electrolysis system won't do what he thinks |
| 17:38.09 | ZorbaTHut | it's multiplicative, not additive, so we assume that the other inefficiencies are just rolled into the fact that the car doesn't get infinite miles per gallon |
| 17:38.16 | Cide | I can do math, but thanks |
| 17:38.18 | cog|work | ZorbaTHut: exactly |
| 17:38.45 | cog|work | thanks for the math check |
| 17:38.53 | ZorbaTHut | cog, does he think it'll be infinite MPG or something? |
| 17:39.03 | cog|work | yes, but i don't think he realizes that |
| 17:39.05 | ZorbaTHut | honestly, if he's trying to claim something preposterous, you're probably just doomed |
| 17:39.26 | Lopeppeppy | We're all doomed anyway. *Eeyore* |
| 17:40.12 | zenzelezz | doom DOOM doom doom doom DOOM doom (etc) |
| 17:40.39 | AbsoRayne | O_o |
| 17:40.45 | Lunessa | Oh, woe is me. *Eyeore* |
| 17:41.34 | cog|work | ZorbaTHut: the sad part is that he's got a pretty strong mechanical/physics bacground. He used to be a jet mechanic in the airforce and works on cars for a living. |
| 17:41.50 | Lopeppeppy | It's not much of a tail, but I'm kind of attached to it. |
| 17:42.03 | Lopeppeppy | cog|work... excessive optimism? |
| 17:42.15 | cog|work | cognitive dissonance, i think |
| 17:43.12 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm. *hugs* |
| 17:43.34 | Amarande | hmm. I seem to be at the point where I need to defeat Drakuru |
| 17:43.49 | Amarande | is this going to be on the 'nicely challenging' list or the 'omgwtfbbqworstquestever' list? |
| 17:43.59 | Lunessa | He gonna show you real powah, mon! |
| 17:44.14 | ZorbaTHut | amarande, in zul'drak? the "that was pretty awesome, if a little tricky" list |
| 17:44.18 | Amarande | seems like I keep running into tale after tale of how people got pwnt by him. |
| 17:45.02 | Tem | Amarande, People are nubs |
| 17:45.12 | ZorbaTHut | you might die once or twice figuring out the (kind of weird) mechanics of the fight, but it's not too tough. no real reason to look it up unless you don't want to deal with repair costs. |
| 17:45.32 | ZorbaTHut | he took me out once 'cause I screwed up, I can imagine it happening twice if you have bad luck (especially if you're a little on the squishy side to begin with) |
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| 17:48.37 | Amarande | hm |
| 17:48.45 | Amarande | seems to be the buzz in trade chat that melee classes are currently OP |
| 17:50.19 | Olorin | trouble is blizzard have the impossible task of balanicng two very different combat systems, until they make spells react with varing degrees in pvp vs pve they'll never get it balanced |
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| 17:51.04 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, about the only way they'll ever balance it is by having a significant number of abilities that are only useful in one or the other |
| 17:51.36 | Amarande | something like, melee apparently are doing with auto attacks more per hit than us casters do with -crits- |
| 17:51.38 | ZorbaTHut | either by clever use of effects, or by just flat-out restricting them. or abilities that work substantially differently. |
| 17:53.18 | Amarande | yeah, even Guild Wars has apparently had to start forking skills into PvE and PvP versions |
| 17:54.03 | Amarande | so, are melee classes OP? |
| 17:54.21 | ZorbaTHut | that, I have no idea. I'm a prot warrior, I haven't felt OP in PvP since I started playing :P |
| 17:54.25 | Lopeppeppy | Everyone thinks that everything is OP. |
| 17:54.32 | ZorbaTHut | I can definitely kill guys now |
| 17:54.39 | AbsoRayne | Hrm |
| 17:54.40 | ZorbaTHut | which is a nice change |
| 17:54.40 | Lopeppeppy | I think we should just go back to everyone having the same skills, and a butter knife to fight with. done. |
| 17:54.51 | ZorbaTHut | but I don't feel OP, I still lose half the time or more ;) |
| 17:55.15 | Amarande | I'm being told that rogues auto attack though for more than my shadowbolt crits for |
| 17:55.44 | Amarande | that actually true, or is that trade chat BS? |
| 17:55.55 | Lopeppeppy | Trade chat BS |
| 17:55.57 | ZorbaTHut | well, rogues are kind of broken right now thanks to hat. but I don't think they're *that* broken. |
| 17:55.58 | Codayus | Amarande: Are you even 80? |
| 17:56.05 | ZorbaTHut | I think your trade channel is just stupid. :) |
| 17:56.15 | Codayus | HAT doesn't improve auto attack. Quite the reverse. |
| 17:57.19 | ZorbaTHut | codayus, I can see "rogues do lots of damage via HAT" quickly morphing into "omg rogues can oneshot pwn shield-walling prot warriors with their autoattack!" somewhere in the collective idiocy of /2 ;) |
| 17:57.20 | Codayus | Anyhow, if your low enough level, with poor enough gear, yes, a good rogue's autoattack will hit for more than your shadowbolt will crit for. |
| 17:57.59 | Amarande | Codayus: 79, so I do have the last rank of shadow bolt |
| 17:58.04 | cog|work | ZorbaTHut: Cide Lopeppeppy ZorbaTHut AbsoRayne Lunessa http://eternalblue.dnsalias.net/perpetual.html fwiw |
| 17:58.06 | Lyn | funny, respecced to unholy, made dailys and thought "why the hell does my scourge strike only do 3,9k crits" then i realized i only have rank 1 |
| 17:58.14 | Amarande | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Turalyon&n=Alvaerin |
| 17:58.17 | cog|work | ZorbaTHut: ZorbaTHut ZorbaTHut ZorbaTHut (sry lol) |
| 17:58.40 | cog|work | ir repetitivitivitive |
| 17:58.41 | ZorbaTHut | amarande, no leet purple lv80 heroic epicz though :) |
| 17:59.08 | ZorbaTHut | I finally got my first heroic drop. I had *32 badges* once I got the fucker. stupid uncooperative loot tables |
| 17:59.44 | Amarande | btw, does my helm not upgrade significantly until raiding time? |
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| 18:01.45 | Codayus | Amarande: Mmm, you can get a blue with twice the spell power, and a meta socket. Crown of Unbridled Magic, Heroic Occulus |
| 18:02.05 | ZorbaTHut | oh man I clearly need sleep |
| 18:02.10 | ZorbaTHut | I read that as "Cows of Unbridled Magic" |
| 18:02.28 | ZorbaTHut | which would, incidentally, be the most awesome helm ever. |
| 18:02.40 | ZorbaTHut | cog, ouch. good luck convincing him |
| 18:03.02 | cog|work | heh thanks |
| 18:03.07 | Codayus | ?Amarande: Incidentally, what DOES your shadowbolt crit for |
| 18:03.18 | Lopeppeppy | ZorbaTHut, there is no cow level |
| 18:03.29 | Codayus | Hm, silly cat. YOu can probably figure out where the question makr was meant to go... |
| 18:06.18 | cog|work | \o/ |
| 18:06.53 | Lunessa | Sounds like me arguing with my dad. |
| 18:07.34 | Amarande | Codayus: around 5000, apparently |
| 18:08.08 | Lopeppeppy | I don't argue, I just say, "that's nice dear" |
| 18:08.11 | Amarande | although I think I was in meta when I did that |
| 18:08.26 | cog|work | Lopeppeppy: the problem is when it isn't nice... |
| 18:08.43 | Lopeppeppy | I know. You're past the point where you can just let him think as he wants to. |
| 18:09.39 | Codayus | Mmm, yes. Well, the highest rogue autoattack I see on patchwerk is around 2300, with max raid buffs and debuffs, of course. That's probably fairly close to max possible with current gear. |
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| 18:10.36 | Codayus | Whereas I see a lock who got a 12.8k shadowbolt crit on patchwerk... |
| 18:10.36 | Lopeppeppy | I keep seeing people say that Patchwerk is NOT the best measure of DPS... why does it keep being used? Are they wrong? Are they right? |
| 18:10.39 | Codayus | And this is why you don't listen to trade chat, ever. |
| 18:10.39 | ZealotOnAStick | is that a special or white damage? |
| 18:11.24 | Codayus | Lopeppeppy: It's a great way to measure DPS on fights that are very similar to patchwerk. :-) |
| 18:12.09 | Codayus | Key issues are - the fight is immobile, there are no adds, there's no real AoE damage, and it's short enough you can go nuts with cooldowns. |
| 18:12.17 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah... there's the problem, Codayus. :) |
| 18:12.22 | Amarande | wait a minute. what weapon type IS "The Fire Extinguisher"? |
| 18:12.23 | Lunessa | Peppy - People keep using it as a yardstick because it's a long, melee-intensive fight where melee DPS gets to work on a single target from 5+ minutes. |
| 18:12.25 | Amarande | It doesn't specify one. |
| 18:12.33 | Lunessa | Amarande: It doesn't have one. |
| 18:12.54 | Codayus | But you could equally say "hey, fight X is terrible for DPS checks because it's mobile/has AoE/too short, too long/has adds!" |
| 18:14.12 | Codayus | It's not like there's any agreement on what a perfect fight for benchmarking DPS would look like. *shrug* |
| 18:14.41 | Lunessa | The best way to measure performance is with measuring lots of factors: Damage Output, Survival, Attitude and Teamwork. The only one of which you get raw numbers for is Damage Output, so people use that the measure their penis. |
| 18:14.46 | alestane | I.e., Patchwerk provides you with a sense of how much DPS someone's gear and rotations can do. |
| 18:14.58 | Amarande | Lunessa: which weapon skill does it use, then? |
| 18:15.04 | End | Patchwerk gives a sort of maximum value |
| 18:15.05 | Lunessa | Amarande: None. |
| 18:15.05 | ZealotOnAStick | Codayus: Sure there is. "Fight <x> which favors my class/spec/playstyle" |
| 18:15.12 | Aiiane | Lunessa: now if you were a tank, you could replace damage output with threat output |
| 18:15.22 | Aiiane | at which point, you'd want to measure everyone by their toast |
| 18:15.25 | Lunessa | Aiiane: Yes. |
| 18:15.29 | Codayus | (Notable on patchwerk - every DK who does well has the gargoyle talent. The gargoyle dies instantly if there's any AoE. Is patchwerk unfair to DK specs without gargoyle? Yeah, I guess. Are fights with constant mild AoE unfair to DK specs with gargoyle? Sure, I guess. |
| 18:16.01 | Aiiane | and then if they weren't performing well enough, you could tell them that their TOAST is soggy. |
| 18:16.22 | End | It takes work to keep pets alive even -with- avoidance, so I can see gargoyle being often worthless |
| 18:16.58 | Lunessa | Gargoyle isn't a real pet. It's a special effect for a fragile/removable DoT |
| 18:17.16 | Amarande | Melee DPS is probably harder to quantify than caster DPS, though. |
| 18:17.25 | End | Ghoul doesn't get avoidance either ;-) |
| 18:17.26 | Codayus | Yep. So...you don't neccesarily want to assume that a DK spec which kicks ass on patchwerk will do well anywhere else. BUt - and this is key - every other possible benchmark fight is worse. :-) |
| 18:17.37 | Codayus | End: Next patch they do. Weee. :-) |
| 18:17.41 | End | cool |
| 18:17.42 | Amarande | Caster DPS tend to do well in almost every fight other than ones where there's a special anti-caster gimmick, or there's so much mobility involved that they can't use anything but instants. Right? |
| 18:17.47 | Lopeppeppy | That's why people should stop looking for benchmark fights. *facepalm* |
| 18:18.08 | Aiiane | Codayus: "democracy isn't the best political system, everything else is just worse" |
| 18:18.20 | Codayus | Lopeppeppy: No data is worse than flaky data, as long as you keep in mind the limitations. |
| 18:18.34 | Lunessa | It's like Winston Churchill said, "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for every other form we've tried." |
| 18:18.42 | Lunessa | Haha. |
| 18:19.07 | Lopeppeppy | Exactly, Lunessa. |
| 18:19.31 | End | Well |
| 18:19.32 | Lopeppeppy | Flaky data is flaky, and unreliable. It cannot ever be reliable, so pretending it is and taking it as a reliable measure of anything is foolish in the extreme. |
| 18:19.52 | End | In any case, I guess Blizzard thought melee/hunters were doing too much damage in beta, since they upped all the armor |
| 18:19.54 | Codayus | Lopeppeppy: All data is flaky. |
| 18:19.56 | Lunessa | Caster DPS is best gauged in longer, largely static fights. I mean, if you have to move ever 1.5 seconds, and fireball is 2.5 seconds... |
| 18:20.17 | Codayus | We live in an imperfect world. That's true for everything from physics experiments to WoW combat log parses. :-) |
| 18:20.47 | Codayus | End: Then they accidentally broke hunter DPS anyhow. :-p |
| 18:20.59 | Lopeppeppy | Cogwheel, you seem rational, do you think Mrs. Cog will let me live in your basement away from the crazies? |
| 18:21.07 | Amarande | Codayus: you mean "accidentally" |
| 18:21.19 | ZorbaTHut | on the other hand, it also wouldn't surprise me if things like caster DPS were intentionally balanced partially with their limitations in mind |
| 18:21.23 | Codayus | I...suspect it really was a mistake, really... |
| 18:21.30 | Lunessa | Peppy - They don't have a basement... maybe the attic or the shed? |
| 18:21.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: crazies are everywhere. you can't escape them. |
| 18:21.50 | AbsoRayne | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:22.17 | Lopeppeppy | Which one, AbsoRayne? |
| 18:22.28 | AbsoRayne | With everything Visible |
| 18:22.38 | AbsoRayne | Wanted to know if theres anything youd change |
| 18:23.03 | Lopeppeppy | [11:07] AbsoRayne: http://i40.tinypic.com/rrjbs1.jpg || http://i39.tinypic.com/2s7hwms.jpg |
| 18:23.15 | AbsoRayne | Yeah, second one |
| 18:23.31 | cog|work | Lopeppeppy: what Lunessa said :P (well, garage not shed, but yeah) |
| 18:23.46 | AckisWork | wowi get a new frint oage/? |
| 18:23.53 | Lopeppeppy | If I could change anything, it would be the fadeouts. Those are what cause me issues on a smaller screen -- they bleed into the chat and combat log areas. |
| 18:24.10 | Lopeppeppy | The rest is healer-specific, not aesthetics. |
| 18:24.17 | AbsoRayne | hrm |
| 18:24.48 | AbsoRayne | Oh crap, thats what I didnt do, re-configure Grid for this one |
| 18:24.53 | Shirik|Ecole | I think I shall go to panera now |
| 18:25.11 | AbsoRayne | Since ive been using the Text and Barless Raid Frames. |
| 18:25.12 | Lunessa | Shirik: Have some lunch for me while you're there. |
| 18:25.19 | Shirik|Ecole | why don't you come :( |
| 18:25.31 | Lopeppeppy | Have some for me too... no Panera near me. |
| 18:25.46 | Lopeppeppy | "Text and Barless Raid Frames" ? |
| 18:25.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik|Ecole: can you bring me back something to? :) |
| 18:26.31 | AbsoRayne | Lopeppeppy: http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw19800.png Theyre just on the other side of the screen now |
| 18:26.52 | Lunessa | Shirik|Ecole: I want to, but I'm the only "Supervisor" at the moment. I'll go after 1. |
| 18:27.32 | Shirik|Ecole | It is after 1 |
| 18:27.33 | Shirik|Ecole | let's go :D |
| 18:27.42 | Lopeppeppy | ... interesting, AbsoRayne. But a bit less than a healer needs, ya. |
| 18:28.36 | AbsoRayne | Yeah |
| 18:28.44 | AbsoRayne | I got that idea from Saeto |
| 18:28.57 | Aiiane | pixel fonts make me sad :| |
| 18:30.13 | AbsoRayne | When I find one that looks good with this UI, ill stop using it |
| 18:32.53 | AbsoRayne | Lopeppeppy: But yeah, the configs for Grid are still there |
| 18:33.03 | AbsoRayne | Just have to reinstall it and move it from the right side |
| 18:33.29 | Lopeppeppy | I hates Grid, but I'll be willing to give it another shot as I do 5 mans leveling... I remember that it works in parties too, yes? |
| 18:33.37 | AbsoRayne | It does |
| 18:33.52 | AbsoRayne | But the Party Frames arent Text like the raid, theyre somewhat normal |
| 18:34.24 | Tewan | [12:26] <AbsoRayne> Lopeppeppy: http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw19800.png Theyre just on the other side of the screen now |
| 18:34.40 | Tewan | The only thing I dislike about that is how the art goes above the box at the left. |
| 18:34.57 | Tewan | Or wait, does it? |
| 18:35.00 | AbsoRayne | Tewan: Thats Cellular |
| 18:35.01 | Tewan | Hard to tell :P |
| 18:35.07 | AbsoRayne | I put it there during Raids |
| 18:35.09 | AbsoRayne | Just habbit |
| 18:35.25 | AbsoRayne | Lopeppeppy: http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw19801.png Party from the Previous Version |
| 18:35.48 | AbsoRayne | Laurexena was my previous GM, I was his Raid Leader. Always PSTing him Meters and such |
| 18:36.18 | Tewan | AbsoRayne, what do you use for your unit frames? |
| 18:36.22 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, I had to move the party more upwards, as a healer, so that I wasn't staring at the bottom of my screen and missing the fights/fire poo on floors, etc. |
| 18:36.25 | AbsoRayne | PitBull |
| 18:36.37 | Tewan | How'd you get rid of the border? |
| 18:36.44 | AbsoRayne | Disabled it? O_o |
| 18:36.56 | Tewan | Not really border, but padding? |
| 18:37.07 | AbsoRayne | (Whatever Unit Frame)\Other, theres an option for Border right there |
| 18:37.20 | NightHawkTheSane | there's an option for everything, really |
| 18:37.25 | AbsoRayne | ^ |
| 18:39.05 | Lopeppeppy | Sadly true. |
| 18:39.32 | AbsoRayne | Lopeppeppy: I can see your angle for moving the party frames, but I find just playing zoomed out to the furthest helps :P |
| 18:39.36 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* it's neither objectively good or bad. |
| 18:40.07 | Amarande | bah. without meta I only crit for about 4000 with my SB |
| 18:40.22 | alestane | Snce good and bad imply judgement, nothing can be. |
| 18:40.43 | nevcairiel | I like PitBull4, still has all the options, but coded lighter, for example it doesnt hard-depend on LibDogTag anymore, if you dont want advanced tags, you can just use simple HP values |
| 18:40.44 | AbsoRayne | Amarande: SB is so gimp now its retarded. |
| 18:40.59 | End | SB really hasn't chanted much |
| 18:41.00 | Lopeppeppy | AbsoRayne, I totally do zoom way out... but I still need them further up. My screen is only 15" ! |
| 18:41.08 | End | however, everything else has gotten a lot better |
| 18:41.10 | AbsoRayne | I never thought id see the day a Warlock was spamming a fire spell like a mage for top DPS |
| 18:41.12 | AbsoRayne | :/ |
| 18:41.13 | End | changed* |
| 18:41.40 | NightHawkTheSane | alestane: well if were going to argue moral/ethical philosophical semantics, yes. i was just intending to point out that having options for everything was not intrinsically anything, and that some people like it, some don't. :p |
| 18:41.44 | AbsoRayne | My wifes DPS went up at least 450 when she switched off SB to Incin. :/ |
| 18:41.46 | Torhal | AbsoRayne: I've been fire-destruction since 2.3 and had very good DPS. |
| 18:42.17 | nevcairiel | NightHawkTheSane: one could argue that alot of options add overhead to the code paths for checking whats set |
| 18:42.30 | AbsoRayne | Torhal: I was doing fine SB Destro for quite a long time until I stopped playing my Lock. Even in SSC/TK undergeared I could sit around 2-3rd DPS as long as I had the right buffs |
| 18:42.39 | AbsoRayne | Now its laughably bad |
| 18:42.53 | End | fire destruction wasn't very good until 2.4 though, since incinerate didn't have a good coefficient for it's cast time |
| 18:43.28 | Torhal | Immolate/Incinerate/Conflagrate |
| 18:43.31 | durcyn | End: you're forgetting the 3.0 ISB nerf |
| 18:44.24 | End | That nerf was more harmful to things not-shadow bolt |
| 18:44.47 | AbsoRayne | Either way |
| 18:45.01 | End | which is funny since shadow bolt users use a lot of non-shadow bolt spells :P |
| 18:45.07 | AbsoRayne | Locks are still not that good atm, even in Full T7. I cant find one that beats a mage now. :/ |
| 18:45.14 | End | I beat our mages |
| 18:45.21 | End | maybe our mages are awful though ;-) |
| 18:45.26 | AbsoRayne | Possibly |
| 18:45.44 | End | I'm full affliction though, so I have to work a bit harder, but have higher potential damage returns |
| 18:45.46 | AbsoRayne | Alot of the mages I run with sit at about 2600DPS |
| 18:45.51 | Lunessa | meh, everyone complains, "Class X is OP" and "I got nerfed" I call "Bull-pockey" and issue the age-old statement "L2Play." |
| 18:45.52 | End | that's low |
| 18:46.05 | Kirov | Considering prior to 3.0 me decked out in gear vs. a dungeon geared warlock and the warlock just needed to shadow bolt to beat my damage ... |
| 18:46.06 | AbsoRayne | End: Im not in a top T7.5 Guild |
| 18:46.18 | AbsoRayne | Ive been in Naxx Pugs with mages running 3400 before, theyre fucking scary. |
| 18:46.42 | Kirov | Some areas of Naxx it's easy to hit 6-7k dps. |
| 18:46.45 | Kirov | Lots of AoE |
| 18:46.52 | End | well, I tend to ignore AoE |
| 18:47.04 | Lunessa | As an Enhancement Shaman, I have to bust my hump to break 2.4K - but I'm not 'uber' geared either... yet. |
| 18:47.11 | End | although I -always- beat our mages on AoE if I'm careful |
| 18:47.20 | End | if I'm not careful, I die |
| 18:47.31 | AbsoRayne | I smile pulling 1400DPS as a Prot Tank |
| 18:47.32 | AbsoRayne | :3 |
| 18:47.36 | End | if I'm too lazy to be careful than I don't AoE at all :P |
| 18:47.54 | Kirov | Single target dps, with cooldowns, I hit 3k+ normally. With out I have issues breaking 2k |
| 18:48.09 | Kirov | Though I've hit 2.8k w/o cooldowns. |
| 18:48.19 | Kirov | I have the shittiest luck with my mage and crits. |
| 18:48.34 | End | I'm very rarely below 3k dps |
| 18:48.52 | End | I'm above 4k dps on Patchwerk now, but I have a handful of naxx25 epics |
| 18:49.18 | End | (gothik sword, helm and patchwerk neck) |
| 18:49.21 | Kirov | Hot Streak is a big big part of Mage DPS in 3.0, and somehow I can miss getting one even using combustion. |
| 18:49.31 | Lunessa | Hunters are rocking the damage output. Hunters in greens and blues have been routinely out-doing me damage-wise and I'm in purples/blues. It makes me cry. |
| 18:49.42 | Kirov | Then I'll get one fight with 100% crit. |
| 18:49.42 | End | yeah, one of our mages has really bad luck with rng for crit |
| 18:50.01 | Kirov | (and usually pull aggro and die) |
| 18:50.16 | End | we looked at one of the fights for him, and he was doing less than his character sheet in crit somehow |
| 18:50.43 | End | let figuring what crit he'd get from buffs |
| 18:50.46 | End | let alone* |
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| 18:51.04 | Kirov | Lunessa - yeah, I dropped by Hunter to go Mage because I was tired of every other class beating me in the upper levels. Now I see hunters doing 4k sustained damage. |
| 18:51.20 | End | but yeah, one of our hunters beats me often |
| 18:52.04 | AbsoRayne | I lack a good hunter that isnt a total friggin flake. |
| 18:52.04 | Kirov | End - I've sat with crit at 50%, actually have 50% on my damage done, but not get hot streak because they'd perfectly alternate crits. |
| 18:52.10 | AbsoRayne | Its rather upsetting |
| 18:52.11 | End | lol |
| 18:52.13 | End | oouch |
| 18:52.33 | Lunessa | I work hard at being really good. And I am. I never need to worry about a a raid invite or failing in a heroic. But... it still hurts to be busting my ass and see someone else getting more bang for less effort. But still, I need to L2PlayBetter |
| 18:52.35 | AbsoRayne | End: I have one now thats going SV when the patch comes out |
| 18:52.39 | Kirov | AbsoRayne - Yeah, good hunters are hard to find. Sooo many bad ones. |
| 18:52.57 | AbsoRayne | Kirov: Not really bad as so much Lackluster |
| 18:52.58 | End | we already have a -really- good SV hunter |
| 18:53.15 | End | he's not quite my damage, but he's like 3rd or 4th usually |
| 18:53.26 | Kirov | In my first raiding guild we amassed 7 hunters, and all of us went to nearly every raid (40 mans, mind you) because we were always in the top 10 damage. |
| 18:53.34 | End | the BM hunter that beats me is probably going to go MM though |
| 18:53.45 | AbsoRayne | MM is so boring now. |
| 18:53.45 | Kirov | Most of the other guilds on the server took one or two hunters, but only for the fights that needed tranq. |
| 18:53.48 | AbsoRayne | I cant stand it |
| 18:53.52 | AbsoRayne | I thought BM was bad |
| 18:54.23 | AbsoRayne | Then again, if im not tanking, I love being Utility, which is why I love SV so much |
| 18:54.24 | End | I dunno, all I've heard about MM is that it's horrible on the mana |
| 18:54.32 | AbsoRayne | It is |
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| 18:54.43 | Kirov | That guild was also the first to do clears of every 40 man in all but Naxx. |
| 18:54.44 | AbsoRayne | Youre using Viper usually the the end of your fourth full rotation |
| 18:55.54 | AbsoRayne | At least with SV, and having Hunting Party on top of Viper, youre usually back to Full Mana in about 6-7 Shots. |
| 18:56.45 | Kirov | Viper is almost worthless above 50% mana, at least last time I played my hunter. |
| 18:57.23 | Kirov | Did they change that, or is the falloff ramp still really hard on Viper? |
| 18:57.25 | AbsoRayne | Kirov: SV is already so 'meh' damage that being in Viper for an extra 10 seconds isnt going to change alot. |
| 18:57.33 | Kirov | heh |
| 18:57.46 | AbsoRayne | All about the Utility of the spec. |
| 18:57.47 | End | They changed Viper |
| 18:58.02 | Kirov | I used to be a survival hunter, but I was also my guild's main puller so the extra stam came in handy. |
| 18:58.09 | End | I'm not sure how much, but I think it's flat regen + regen on hit |
| 18:58.19 | Kirov | I was #2 hunter in damage. |
| 18:58.35 | Kirov | #6 in dps |
| 18:58.36 | AbsoRayne | I was topping DPS in Raids as SV until the huge MM and BM Change |
| 18:58.41 | AbsoRayne | Then MM was just untouchable. |
| 18:59.04 | AbsoRayne | amd the Steady Shot nerf hurt us bad, too |
| 18:59.12 | NightHawkTheSane | AbsoRayne: i hope they fix SV's dps, so some of our hunters spec into it >< only having 2 replenishments in a 25 man sucks |
| 18:59.27 | NightHawkTheSane | i actually dipped down to 60% mana at one point |
| 18:59.33 | nevcairiel | 2 is usually enough |
| 18:59.37 | nevcairiel | you dont have 25 mana classes |
| 18:59.46 | NightHawkTheSane | you haven't seen our raids >< |
| 18:59.48 | AbsoRayne | A ret Pali plus an SV hunter just helps 25s so much |
| 19:00.05 | Codayus | SV will be top DPS in 3.0.8 it seems... |
| 19:00.17 | NightHawkTheSane | and spriests aren't reliable enough imo.. |
| 19:00.18 | nevcairiel | We usually have at least one ret pally and a shadow |
| 19:00.22 | nevcairiel | alot of time even 2 ret |
| 19:00.35 | AbsoRayne | NightHawkTheSane: Its all about Disc now really |
| 19:00.45 | AbsoRayne | Pennance is pretty OP currently |
| 19:00.52 | NightHawkTheSane | AbsoRayne: i was speaking strictly in terms of replenishment uptime |
| 19:01.04 | NightHawkTheSane | that said, our spriest did some very nice dps last night |
| 19:01.05 | AbsoRayne | Ah, true, that too |
| 19:01.13 | nevcairiel | Hm, does WWS track uptime of that? |
| 19:01.25 | NightHawkTheSane | probably not effectively.. |
| 19:01.52 | nevcairiel | I think stasiscl had buff uptime, i should really set some auomated parsing up with that |
| 19:02.05 | NeoTron | WWS does a lot less than it should |
| 19:02.11 | NeoTron | for example it doesn't properly track pets :P |
| 19:02.28 | NightHawkTheSane | most of what i've seen is just emperical/anecdotal evidence, i just notice better uptime from ret pallies/sv hunters |
| 19:02.32 | durcyn | stasiscl > wws in just about every way |
| 19:03.39 | AbsoRayne | I wish I had a full Disc healer in Naxx :/ |
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| 19:04.53 | Codayus | Heh, I'm a disc healer, and I need to start raiding Naxx... :-p |
| 19:05.08 | AbsoRayne | I also think my guild is slowly dying |
| 19:05.23 | AbsoRayne | We cant down Grob, get him to like 5% every time and wipe. |
| 19:05.23 | NightHawkTheSane | we had a disc healer last night. he did okay, except for dying a bit. but he's kinda new to raiding and the encounters so |
| 19:05.35 | Codayus | Heh |
| 19:05.36 | NightHawkTheSane | AbsoRayne: need more dps |
| 19:05.51 | NeoTron | AbsoRayne: insufficient DPS or people unable to properly place blobs on the floor? |
| 19:05.54 | AckisWork | question: how do you make the lame ass raiding in wrath fun? |
| 19:06.05 | Lopeppeppy | Play better music. |
| 19:06.21 | NeoTron | AckisWork: you do 25-man and 10-man and do achievements |
| 19:06.21 | End | AbsoRayne: is that 10 or 25? |
| 19:06.21 | AbsoRayne | Blobs arent the issue at all |
| 19:06.21 | AbsoRayne | End: 10 |
| 19:06.29 | AbsoRayne | Ive really considered sitting my OT out for it |
| 19:06.29 | End | ah yeah |
| 19:06.29 | End | for 10 the dps requirement is much harder |
| 19:06.32 | NeoTron | I was pretty much just deciding that I'd be bored out of my midn until we went back to 25-man |
| 19:06.32 | AckisWork | NeoTron: doing 10 and 25 and getting achievements... and I'm bored |
| 19:06.33 | AbsoRayne | but I need him for Slimes |
| 19:06.39 | End | since you need to not reach the point where 2 healers get diseased |
| 19:06.55 | End | once that happens, you hope the tank will live through it :x |
| 19:07.01 | AckisWork | I'm having more fun playing facebook games than raiding in wow |
| 19:07.17 | AbsoRayne | Then again |
| 19:07.31 | AbsoRayne | If my Cat Druid is on, I could probably have him do it... |
| 19:07.32 | NightHawkTheSane | AckisWork, AbsoRayne: you |
| 19:07.50 | NightHawkTheSane | you're names are the same length and too similar. on behalf of my sanity, one of you needs to change names |
| 19:07.52 | AckisWork | you what? |
| 19:07.54 | NightHawkTheSane | your* |
| 19:07.59 | AckisWork | lmao |
| 19:08.09 | AbsolutRayne | Better? |
| 19:08.15 | NightHawkTheSane | actually, yes. ;) |
| 19:08.23 | NightHawkTheSane | i didn't expect either of you to actually listen to me.. |
| 19:08.37 | AbsolutRayne | It bothers me not having my Toons full name |
| 19:08.45 | AckisWork | I wasn't going to |
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| 19:10.20 | AbsolutRayne | Anyone a Tank in here? |
| 19:10.32 | NightHawkTheSane | sometimes, on my druid.. |
| 19:11.09 | Codayus | From time to time... |
| 19:11.12 | NeoTron | AbsolutRayne: yes for the most part |
| 19:11.14 | Lunessa | This one time, at tank camp... |
| 19:11.25 | AbsolutRayne | Ive actually been very much considering getting rid of my Gossamer Trinket |
| 19:11.26 | AbsolutRayne | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kil%27jaeden&n=Absolutrayne |
| 19:11.28 | AbsolutRayne | Heres my Armory |
| 19:11.29 | AbsolutRayne | Thoughts? |
| 19:11.37 | NightHawkTheSane | and replace it with what? |
| 19:12.04 | AbsolutRayne | I have the lvl 78 Def trinket |
| 19:12.38 | AbsolutRayne | I was thinking about using that until I get the Naxx Trinket, and switching what i had with Def back to Stam / HP where I could |
| 19:12.53 | Codayus | For warriors, defense is actually a pretty good avoidance stat. |
| 19:13.04 | Codayus | So... *shrug* |
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| 19:14.27 | AbsolutRayne | Im trying to get my Tier 7 Shoulders |
| 19:14.29 | AbsolutRayne | :/ |
| 19:14.55 | Codayus | Although I might swap it for Levanthor's. |
| 19:15.19 | Codayus | Instead. |
| 19:15.29 | AbsolutRayne | Codayus: Losing 4% SBR |
| 19:15.36 | AbsolutRayne | If I swapped it with Lav |
| 19:15.58 | AbsolutRayne | Im really hesitant to get rid of that trinket |
| 19:16.13 | zenzelezz | I only bother with the stamina trinket on a couple of fights, like Malygos |
| 19:16.19 | Lopeppeppy | Keep it in your bags and play around, AbsolutRayne. |
| 19:17.28 | AbsolutRayne | The only reason im so hesitant is because of the Shield Block Change. Whenever its not up, im basically getting punished for 30 seconds, even with my Midigation decently high for my gear level |
| 19:17.28 | zenzelezz | http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Eonar&n=Zenzio -- my general setup |
| 19:17.44 | Codayus | 4% SBR is...alright. *shrug* You probably get a fair chunk of avoidance from the Seal of the Pantheon though. Then again, the value of stam is...trick.y *shrug* |
| 19:19.19 | AbsolutRayne | zenzelezz: Quite curious, the Slower speed on Broken Promise doesnt hurt your TPS? |
| 19:19.29 | zenzelezz | rarely |
| 19:20.00 | zenzelezz | still switching it for the axe when that drops |
| 19:20.32 | AbsolutRayne | Hmm |
| 19:21.06 | AbsolutRayne | My GM took the Signet of the Accord from me >_< I still have that second blue ring and he had 2 purps already >_< cock |
| 19:21.11 | Lunessa | Grrr... Midigation NO. Mitigation Note the 't' and lack of a 'd'. |
| 19:21.27 | Amarande | I'm already pretty much set on trinkets until I'm in a raid |
| 19:21.27 | Lopeppeppy | That's why I like the guild rule "do not be an ass" |
| 19:22.22 | AbsolutRayne | Ah well |
| 19:22.32 | AbsolutRayne | My next goal is the Valor Ring anyway |
| 19:22.51 | NightHawkTheSane | haha.. awesome: http://thisisindexed.com/2009/01/inflation-deflation-whatever/ |
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| 19:24.07 | Shirik|Ecole | they're not leftover yet >.> |
| 19:24.12 | Shirik|Ecole | but you can have half of it :) |
| 19:24.21 | Lopeppeppy | Aww. *hugs* What flavor are we noming? |
| 19:24.30 | Lopeppeppy | Noming? Is that the verb form of "nom" ? |
| 19:24.52 | Lunessa | NHTS - Late night TV had a 'story' about a local woman who went to brazil to get her 38 FFF made into 38 KKK - Seriously, boobs that weight 30# each. *shudder* |
| 19:25.07 | Lopeppeppy | *wince* |
| 19:25.10 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 |
| 19:25.12 | NightHawkTheSane | thats insanity |
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| 19:25.27 | Lopeppeppy | Who is paying the chiro bills, that's what I want to know. |
| 19:25.30 | AbsolutRayne | zenzelezz: I think im just blinded by stam atm :/ |
| 19:25.49 | Lunessa | I don't know. But any woman who wants 'em that big has self-esteem issues. |
| 19:27.10 | Shirik|Ecole | Lopeppeppy |
| 19:27.13 | Lopeppeppy | Or a booming porn career. |
| 19:27.14 | Shirik|Ecole | Italian Combo |
| 19:27.17 | Shirik|Ecole | know what that is? |
| 19:27.25 | Shirik|Ecole | no tomatoes though because tomatoes are blah |
| 19:27.31 | Lopeppeppy | A lot of everything, including salami? |
| 19:27.40 | Lopeppeppy | I'd pick out the tomatoes and save you from them. I'm good that way. |
| 19:27.57 | NightHawkTheSane | mmm.. tomatos |
| 19:28.18 | Lunessa | You folks are making me hungry. |
| 19:28.34 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i haven't had breakfast yet |
| 19:28.37 | Lopeppeppy | I'm starving, Lunessa. Not enough lunches. |
| 19:28.38 | zenzelezz | peppy's always making me hungry |
| 19:28.54 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr, zenzelezz? |
| 19:28.59 | zenzelezz | you bet |
| 19:29.13 | Lunessa | RAWR indeed. |
| 19:29.31 | Lunessa | Peppy - I has cookies. I wants cheeseburger. |
| 19:30.09 | AbsolutRayne | I might make an Omlette |
| 19:30.31 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm thinking egg over easy on cheese toast, myself |
| 19:30.45 | AbsolutRayne | I have good fresh cheddar in the fridge. |
| 19:30.54 | AbsolutRayne | Canadian Cheddar > American |
| 19:31.00 | NightHawkTheSane | probably |
| 19:31.04 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, I trade you. |
| 19:31.08 | NightHawkTheSane | i bought a block of monterey jack lastnight |
| 19:31.34 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: *trades cookies for cheeseburger* |
| 19:32.08 | Lopeppeppy | *goes looking for cheeseburger to FedEx* |
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| 19:34.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: http://www.trekking-mahlzeiten.de/trekking-mahlzeiten-online-shop/produkte/Zwischenmahlzeiten_507/Cheeseburger_in_der_Dose_4641.html |
| 19:34.17 | Lopeppeppy | I will not send Lunessa a cheeseburger in a can! |
| 19:34.26 | Lopeppeppy | That's like making him live on MRE's again. |
| 19:34.27 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
| 19:35.00 | Lunessa | Oh lord. They were all TUNA |
| 19:35.44 | mikma | dont be a tunahead |
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| 19:36.33 | NightHawkTheSane | http://gizmodo.com/351304/cheeseburger-in-a-can-reviewed |
| 19:36.52 | Lunessa | After the hurricane I lived on pre-packaged food from the National Guard. All the meal kits were tuna-salad. It was pretty much all I got to eat for almost 3 weeks. |
| 19:37.00 | Lopeppeppy | I know, love. *hug* |
| 19:37.29 | Lyn | awww cheeseburger in a can |
| 19:38.16 | alestane | A can has cheezburger? |
| 19:38.22 | Lopeppeppy | Yes! |
| 19:39.49 | Lunessa | Can has cheeseburger, not so good actually. |
| 19:40.09 | Lopeppeppy | Probably. FedEx cheeseburger would probably also suffer. |
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| 19:42.47 | Lunessa | There are special containers for FedExing/express delivery of foods. But hot food isn't going to be hot. |
| 19:43.58 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy, http://gizmodo.com/350091/cheeseburger-in-a-can-is-both-the-best-and-worst-thing-ive-ever-seen will FedEx quite nicely |
| 19:45.59 | Lunessa | Today is "Gothik the Harvester" on my 2009 Year of Fear WoW Calendar. |
| 19:46.37 | zenzelezz | many whelps undead side! |
| 19:47.38 | End | strange looking whelps |
| 19:48.01 | zenzelezz | DEEP BREATH! |
| 19:48.21 | Lopeppeppy | No cheeseburgers in cans! Lunessa deserves the best fresh meat available. |
| 19:48.37 | *** join/#wowuidev Pernicius (n=chatzill@p50816836.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:48.49 | Pernicius | how can i display the | character ingame? |
| 19:48.54 | Lunessa | rawr - I is carnivore. |
| 19:48.58 | Pernicius | always displays invalid escape char... |
| 19:49.03 | ZorbaTHut | pernicius, || |
| 19:49.09 | Pernicius | thanks a lot!! |
| 19:51.03 | AbsolutRayne | Gothik is so boring on 10 man |
| 19:51.12 | Pernicius | ZorbaTHut: hm.. seems not to work if i try to send ../.||_......_||. via SendChatMessage, it says escape error |
| 19:51.21 | Pernicius | but no backslashes |
| 19:53.23 | ZorbaTHut | what if you just send "||"? |
| 19:53.50 | Pernicius | mom |
| 19:54.10 | Pernicius | works |
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| 19:55.45 | Pernicius | hmm.. if i type /script SendChatMessage(".././.../..../..../.||_......_||.\\....\\....\\...\\.\\..") ingame, it works. but if i do it in my .lua, it doesn't. |
| 19:56.11 | Pernicius | *confused* |
| 19:56.22 | ZorbaTHut | well, I'd isolate it down to the problematic character - I don't know what it could be offhand, but debugging will track it down :) |
| 19:56.40 | zenzelezz | isn't it something like |124 in lua? |
| 19:56.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Replace your pipes with \123 |
| 19:56.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Or \124 |
| 19:56.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Or whatever it is |
| 19:57.03 | Pernicius | ScytheBlade1: already did that |
| 19:57.09 | ZorbaTHut | but if || works, why wouldn't it work in that string? |
| 19:57.29 | zenzelezz | they're treated differently from the .lua and when typed in-game |
| 19:58.16 | ZorbaTHut | but if || works *in the lua*, why wouldn't it work in the lua in a slightly different location? :P |
| 19:59.09 | zenzelezz | because. |
| 19:59.10 | End | the chat edit box does nasty things to | characters |
| 19:59.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Because when you type it out in-game, it's passed through a different parser |
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| 19:59.26 | cog|work | what end said |
| 19:59.56 | Pernicius | hmm.. i'll have a look at the framexml |
| 19:59.56 | ZorbaTHut | okay, did anyone actually read my last line? |
| 20:00.01 | ZorbaTHut | I'm comparing lua to lua here :P |
| 20:00.13 | cog|work | but that's not the problem |
| 20:00.16 | cog|work | it's not lua to lua |
| 20:00.17 | Lopeppeppy | Location is everything. |
| 20:00.19 | zenzelezz | lua from the .lua and lua typed in-game are not the same |
| 20:00.21 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: there might be differences depending on how/where it's used in lua |
| 20:00.26 | cog|work | it's text typed in an edit box vs text typed in a text file |
| 20:00.31 | cog|work | the lua engine gets different code |
| 20:00.41 | ZorbaTHut | pernicius seemed to imply it was, although perhaps he wasn't testing it properly |
| 20:01.35 | Pernicius | what i did: |
| 20:01.53 | cog|work | in your lua file, use single pipes |
| 20:02.10 | Pernicius | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:02.14 | Pernicius | this works ingame |
| 20:02.44 | Pernicius | but if i type it in a .lua file |
| 20:02.44 | Pernicius | it doesn't. |
| 20:02.44 | ZorbaTHut | I doubt that line works, you don't even have matching quotes |
| 20:02.44 | cog|work | what do you mean by "works"? |
| 20:02.44 | Pernicius | tried with single | and || and \124 |
| 20:02.45 | cog|work | and that |
| 20:03.01 | Pernicius | yeah, i mistyped it here |
| 20:03.17 | Pernicius | if i do a /script SendChatMessage(".././.../..../..../.|_......_|.\\....\\....\\...\\.\\..") ingame, it works. |
| 20:03.35 | Pernicius | if i do a function() SendChatMessage(".././.../..../..../.|_......_|.\\....\\....\\...\\.\\..") end |
| 20:03.36 | cog|work | that's because |_ and |. arent' escape codes |
| 20:03.37 | Pernicius | it doesnt. |
| 20:03.38 | cog|work | but || is |
| 20:03.48 | cog|work | again, what do you mean by "works" vs "doesn't" |
| 20:04.34 | Pernicius | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:04.50 | Pernicius | if i do it in my .lua file it gives me an error |
| 20:04.56 | cog|work | what error? |
| 20:05.11 | Pernicius | SendchatMessage(): Invalid escape code in chat message |
| 20:05.13 | zenzelezz | why don't you just pick a different character from the escape character? |
| 20:05.23 | Pernicius | i thought of item links |
| 20:05.27 | Shirik|Ecole | Pernicius: Again, |. is not a valid escape code |
| 20:05.29 | Shirik|Ecole | you need to do ||. |
| 20:05.30 | Pernicius | i tracked it down to |_ |
| 20:05.37 | Shirik|Ecole | |_ is the same problem |
| 20:05.39 | Pernicius | i tried it with || ! |
| 20:05.41 | Shirik|Ecole | It needs to be ||_ |
| 20:05.45 | Shirik|Ecole | Then you didn't try hard enough |
| 20:05.47 | Pernicius | tried that, |
| 20:05.50 | Pernicius | ! ;D |
| 20:06.00 | Lyn | Industrial, chain lightning still have 3.5 cast time |
| 20:06.03 | Lyn | erm |
| 20:06.03 | Lyn | cd |
| 20:06.04 | Lyn | i mean |
| 20:06.28 | Shirik|Ecole | that being said, it looks like you're trying to spam chat with an ASCII picture |
| 20:06.34 | Pernicius | exactly |
| 20:06.43 | Pernicius | -.- |
| 20:06.43 | Shirik|Ecole | I have limited reasoning to help you for that |
| 20:07.10 | Pernicius | its for personal use. |
| 20:07.17 | Pernicius | i'll never commit it to public. |
| 20:07.18 | zenzelezz | sure it is |
| 20:07.29 | Shirik|Ecole | The act of using it makes its product public |
| 20:07.35 | Pernicius | good point. |
| 20:07.43 | Shirik|Ecole | the code is not what I'm worried about, the product is |
| 20:07.47 | zenzelezz | if you did DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(), it's be private |
| 20:07.56 | zenzelezz | *it'd |
| 20:08.01 | cog|work | and it wouldn't complain about escape codes |
| 20:08.12 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/rasta_surprise.jpg |
| 20:08.29 | Shirik|Ecole | mikma, why do you always go in the bshit folder? |
| 20:08.37 | Shirik|Ecole | aren't the ones that aren't there supposed to be funnier? |
| 20:10.35 | ZorbaTHut | pernicius, just tried out the || in the .lua myself and it worked fine. |
| 20:10.46 | Pernicius | hm... |
| 20:11.10 | mikma | shirik|ecole: i went through the normal one first. bshit has better shit :D |
| 20:11.52 | Pernicius | ZorbaTHut: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/105605 |
| 20:12.01 | Shirik|Ecole | mikma: It just seems like you ALWAYS link stuff from bshit :) |
| 20:12.02 | Pernicius | smashed ub tabulators |
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| 20:12.15 | Shirik|Ecole | that's because you said there was no language |
| 20:12.49 | Shirik|Ecole | that's definitely not fixed Pernicius |
| 20:12.52 | Pernicius | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/105606 |
| 20:13.05 | Shirik|Ecole | beyond that, I do not wish to provide further help based on the content of that paste |
| 20:13.10 | Pernicius | line 28. |
| 20:13.38 | Pernicius | i understand that, Shirik|Ecole. |
| 20:18.21 | alestane | Pernicius: You have to escape single pipes anywhere they're going to get sent through the chat system. If you want a generic case, you can do something like SendChatMessage(msg:gsub("|", "||")). |
| 20:18.38 | alestane | That said, yes, spamming is bad. It's annoying and reportable. |
| 20:18.53 | Pernicius | Yes it is. |
| 20:19.24 | kd3 | huh. it appears that the googlemobile can't handle covered bridges... http://preview.tinyurl.com/cbridge |
| 20:19.26 | Pernicius | this small piece of code is a joke between me and some friends. i'd never use it in public. |
| 20:20.02 | alestane | You don't have to escape "|"s typed into the chat wndow becasue the chat system automatically replaces any pipes that you type with double pipes. |
| 20:20.27 | durcyn | kd3: as long as it still catches people urinating behind parked cars, i see no reason to complain. |
| 20:24.41 | Shirik|Ecole | local scm = SendChatMessage; SendChatMessage = function(msg, ...) return scm(msg:gsub("\124", "\124\124"), ...) end |
| 20:24.44 | Shirik|Ecole | that would be fun ^_^ |
| 20:24.56 | Shirik|Ecole | no more escapes, EVER |
| 20:26.17 | Shirik|Ecole | ~rimshot |
| 20:26.18 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 20:26.27 | alestane | That would only eliminate the outgoing ones, though. |
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| 20:41.14 | Lunessa | off to get food. |
| 20:41.54 | Amarande | hmm |
| 20:42.04 | Amarande | is it possible to screw up the icecrown questing achievement in such a way that you can -never- obtain it? |
| 20:42.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Any mages around? If I'm Arcane specced, how many targets should there be before AE is really worth using? >.> |
| 20:43.42 | Amarande | or are there always 140 doable quests, no matter what order you do things in? |
| 20:43.48 | Lopeppeppy | Amarande, what is the icecrown questing achievement, and how can you mess it up? |
| 20:43.54 | Amarande | Lopeppeppy: 140 quests in Icecrown |
| 20:44.03 | Lopeppeppy | I found that I had more quests in the Ford than were required for the achievement. |
| 20:44.15 | Amarande | Apparently, Icecrown is HEAVILY phased, and it's possible to have quests disappear on you if you didn't do them before doing other quests that cause the phasing to change |
| 20:44.48 | Amarande | It's already tight enough that you actually have to do G5 quests to get the achievement, too |
| 20:45.11 | Amarande | (unlike, say, Dragonblight, where you can get the achievement without having to do more than a small number of group quests, which in my case were soloable) |
| 20:45.33 | Lunessa | Amarande: There's more than 140 quests in Icecrown. I earned the achievement this weekend and still have quests to do. |
| 20:45.44 | Amarande | Lunessa: How many G5's are needed? |
| 20:45.46 | kd3 | icecrown is full of quest chains |
| 20:45.56 | kd3 | a few |
| 20:46.12 | NightHawkTheSane | you really can't fuck up icecrown that badly |
| 20:46.33 | Lunessa | Amarande: I still have 3 of them to do. |
| 20:46.51 | Lunessa | And I know they unlock some more stuff. |
| 20:47.02 | Lunessa | It would be next to impossible not to get the achievement. |
| 20:47.05 | PProvost | Dolby or Cairenn|afk - I think perhaps my account on wowi is locked or soemthing... I can't update my mods or create new stuff. |
| 20:47.24 | Lunessa | ok.. really going for food now. |
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| 20:48.22 | Cairenn|afk | PProvost: that's odd, hang on a sec, I'll check it |
| 20:48.40 | PProvost | Thanks |
| 20:48.44 | Cairenn|afk | same name on the site, right? |
| 20:48.48 | PProvost | pprovost |
| 20:48.57 | Cairenn|afk | ah |
| 20:48.58 | durcyn | oh, you're in trouble now. |
| 20:49.01 | PProvost | You do not have permission to access this file or page. This could be due to one of several reasons: |
| 20:49.01 | Cairenn|afk | did you change your email addy? |
| 20:49.07 | PProvost | Yeah |
| 20:49.13 | PProvost | Do I need to confirm first? |
| 20:49.34 | Cairenn|afk | yeah, that's what the problem was, it was looking for the response to the confirmation email addy |
| 20:49.40 | PProvost | Doing that now |
| 20:49.42 | PProvost | Thanks |
| 20:49.44 | Cairenn|afk | doesn't matter, I've gone in and manually activated, you're good |
| 20:49.52 | Cairenn|afk | don't sweat it |
| 20:50.29 | Lyn | omfg.. my heart strike is so awesome on ptr |
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| 20:55.13 | KarlKFI | Ok so.... my friend is trying to convince me that canadian's don't east sandwiches like us silly americans.... |
| 20:55.28 | Dashkal | O.o |
| 20:55.32 | Cairenn|afk | o.O |
| 20:55.35 | Lopeppeppy | As in, don't eat sandwiches? Or um... bite them differently? |
| 20:55.36 | Gnarfoz | I'd not east sandwiches at all |
| 20:55.39 | KarlKFI | i told her she's crazy |
| 20:55.50 | Cairenn|afk | two (or more) slices of bread, something between them |
| 20:55.51 | Lopeppeppy | Cairenn went to subway with me at blizcon, I'd swear she ate. |
| 20:55.54 | Cairenn|afk | sandwich |
| 20:56.13 | |pez| | Woo, new computer is installing WoW :D |
| 20:56.26 | Cairenn|afk | open mouth, insert sandwich part way, bite down with teeth, tear off part, chew, swallow, repeat |
| 20:56.37 | |pez| | nomnom |
| 20:57.00 | Lopeppeppy | Exactly. |
| 20:57.06 | Lopeppeppy | Canadians nom just like everyone else. |
| 20:57.15 | KarlKFI | like she eats normal sandwiches "like grilled cheese, and peanut butter", but not all these fancy sandwiches |
| 20:57.28 | KarlKFI | i think it's just her and she's lookign for an excuse to be crazy |
| 20:57.29 | Cairenn|afk | fancy? howso fancy? |
| 20:57.51 | KarlKFI | "not italian meatball sandwich nonsense" or "cheese steak" |
| 20:57.57 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, like Panera fancy? I don't eat them either. |
| 20:57.58 | Cairenn|afk | oh give me a break |
| 20:58.02 | Cairenn|afk | of course we eat those |
| 20:58.07 | Lopeppeppy | That's not "american", that's "personal preference" |
| 20:58.08 | KarlKFI | that's what i said |
| 20:58.21 | |pez| | lol |
| 20:58.23 | Cairenn|afk | quite |
| 20:58.47 | KarlKFI | kk, just making sure |
| 20:59.01 | Lopeppeppy | Your lady friend is kinda schizo, Karl. Hate to break it to you. |
| 20:59.02 | KarlKFI | now i have legitimate candanians backign me up |
| 20:59.07 | NeoTron | In Sweden it's more common to have one slice of break + something on it than two slices |
| 20:59.22 | Cairenn|afk | as opposed to illegitimate Canadians? |
| 20:59.26 | KarlKFI | is swedish bread harder? |
| 20:59.36 | NeoTron | so I wouldn't say it's purely preference |
| 20:59.48 | NeoTron | no? Although we have much more interesting bread than I typically can get in the US |
| 20:59.51 | KarlKFI | she claims she grew up in canida, i met her in CA and now she lives in NY |
| 20:59.53 | Cairenn|afk | NeoTron: over here that's called an "open" or "open face" sandwich, and there are plenty of those here as well |
| 21:00.01 | KarlKFI | very illegitimate |
| 21:00.15 | zenzelezz | in ur open face sandwhich olol!!!1 |
| 21:00.31 | KarlKFI | there's lots of interesting bread here, you just have to look for it |
| 21:00.35 | NeoTron | Cairenn|afk: that is true but my point is that at least "at home" you never have a "closed sandwich" in sweden. I never did, ever and neither did my friends |
| 21:00.42 | Cairenn|afk | *nod* |
| 21:00.47 | Lopeppeppy | Oh dear, New York is kind of a crazy state. |
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| 21:01.21 | KarlKFI | CA isn't much better, so i guess she just likes crazy |
| 21:01.29 | KarlKFI | embraces the crazy juice |
| 21:01.31 | KarlKFI | er |
| 21:01.37 | KarlKFI | drinking the crazy cool aid |
| 21:02.01 | KarlKFI | or whatever combination of random colloquialisms you wish |
| 21:02.08 | Cairenn|afk | cool aid cool aid, tastes great, cool aid cool aid, can't wait |
| 21:02.16 | NeoTron | and I can't speak for places like Subway because in Sweden I never would have come up with the idea to go out to get a sandwhich which I can make perfectly well at home :P |
| 21:02.24 | Thunder_Child | KarlKFI, if i moved to NY that would be exactly me |
| 21:02.32 | Thunder_Child | except male |
| 21:03.22 | Thunder_Child | like i cant get through thoes Lopeppeppy, i do live in LA |
| 21:03.32 | Cairenn|afk | lol |
| 21:03.45 | Kirov | NeoTron - when you don't have a place to store food because the only frig you own is the size of 6 coke cans ... you learn to love subway |
| 21:03.59 | mikma | ok folks. DK and dualwielding... what kind of weapons for MH and OH? |
| 21:04.22 | Kirov | mikma - a fishing pole and a broom |
| 21:04.23 | NightHawkTheSane | slow as fuck mh, whatever you want oh, i guess? |
| 21:04.56 | NightHawkTheSane | maybe fast OH for killing machine procs if you have it |
| 21:05.01 | mikma | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44250 |
| 21:05.05 | mikma | i was thinking about that one x2 |
| 21:05.06 | KarlKFI | yeah now she's blaming it on being indian |
| 21:05.20 | Cairenn|afk | offs, it isn't that either |
| 21:05.24 | KarlKFI | "there is never enough flavor!" |
| 21:05.34 | KarlKFI | which is understandable, but a weak argument |
| 21:05.46 | KarlKFI | an excuse for crazy |
| 21:06.02 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: as i said, if you have killing machine, a FAST oh would probably be better to increase procs of that i think. |
| 21:06.30 | KarlKFI | either that or she doesn't have any taste buds left and needs large amounts of capsicum for them to be stimulated at all. |
| 21:06.37 | durcyn | i think the current theorycraft is double 1.5 weapons for DK DW |
| 21:06.53 | mikma | nighthawkthesane: well i think killing machine is part of the DW hybrid builds |
| 21:06.55 | durcyn | there's a wws parse from PTR with something like 90% crit rate on IT from killing machine |
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| 21:08.04 | mikma | kek, http://www.wowhead.com/?item=42435 |
| 21:08.08 | mikma | that's a perfect OH then |
| 21:09.23 | NightHawkTheSane | if DKs could use daggers, sure |
| 21:09.59 | mikma | they cant? :D |
| 21:10.34 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont think so? |
| 21:10.52 | mikma | i have absolutely no idea |
| 21:11.05 | NightHawkTheSane | afaik, only swords, axes, and maces |
| 21:11.05 | mikma | been using 2h since the start and haven't bothered visiting trainers |
| 21:11.58 | mikma | yeah that might be 100% accurate |
| 21:12.24 | Lyn | anyone knows when 3.0.8 hits live? :( |
| 21:12.30 | AbsolutRayne | My hands feel all ew :( |
| 21:12.35 | Thunder_Child | when its ready |
| 21:12.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Lyn: not soon enough |
| 21:12.40 | Lyn | meh |
| 21:12.40 | Lopeppeppy | Lyn, that is never announced definitively ahead of time. |
| 21:12.41 | AbsolutRayne | Dishwashing ftl. |
| 21:12.47 | mikma | ~lederhosen |
| 21:12.48 | purl | lederhosen is probably lyn, scheisse, lederhosen! SCHIMANSKI! |
| 21:13.03 | Lyn | i want my cleave... i dont wanna jump on the "OH WEE DW-DK"-train |
| 21:13.29 | Lopeppeppy | Then don't. *gentle shrug* |
| 21:13.47 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ |
| 21:13.53 | Lyn | yeah, i dont.. |
| 21:13.54 | mikma | lyn: dk-dw is the ultimate dps :P |
| 21:13.58 | Lyn | yeah |
| 21:14.00 | Lyn | but its lame |
| 21:14.11 | mikma | and it's still best there is :P |
| 21:14.31 | Lyn | i stay blood, even when it sucks atm :p |
| 21:14.37 | Lyn | *if |
| 21:14.42 | mikma | but not for long, gladly |
| 21:14.47 | KarlKFI | i solved that problem before it existed by rolling a pally |
| 21:14.50 | KarlKFI | 2h or death |
| 21:15.07 | KarlKFI | or more often 2h AND death |
| 21:15.09 | Lyn | hehe |
| 21:15.19 | Lyn | yeah my pally is still 71 or 70, dunno |
| 21:15.35 | Dashkal | mmm, cleave. My DPS is respectable as blood, and this can only help it. Long as we don't CC things right next to me anyway |
| 21:15.40 | Lyn | i hope for betrayer tomorrow :x |
| 21:15.52 | Cairenn|afk | PProvost: re Tipsy (just approved) - your description cut off - "If you want to use this addon with FuBar, you can use" |
| 21:16.00 | Lyn | Dashkal, funny is, on ptr my single target hs does more dmg with obli+glyph (no sigil, sadly) |
| 21:16.04 | PProvost | Thank Cairenn|afk |
| 21:16.07 | PProvost | I'll look at it |
| 21:16.12 | Cairenn|afk | np :) |
| 21:16.16 | PProvost | Can I update descriptions without reuploading? |
| 21:16.18 | Cairenn|afk | didn't notice if the one(s) before did that too |
| 21:16.19 | Cairenn|afk | yes |
| 21:16.22 | PProvost | Cool |
| 21:16.23 | Cairenn|afk | ditto pics |
| 21:17.07 | |pez| | This is probably stupid, but is it possible to have a macro that mounts me on a random mount? :D |
| 21:17.15 | Dashkal | Lyn: I'm not surprised. I'm under no illusions that my favorite spec isn't top DPS, but given that most of the DPS is below me, I have time before I'll have to fix it :p |
| 21:17.19 | Lopeppeppy | |pez|! |
| 21:17.26 | |pez| | Lopeppeppy! |
| 21:17.38 | Lopeppeppy | Of course there is. Google it! Or search the UI/Macros forum. :) |
| 21:17.46 | |pez| | Will do! |
| 21:18.11 | |pez| | I'll make it, when my new shiny mix'n'match computer is finished installing and updating WoW! |
| 21:18.19 | NightHawkTheSane | |pez|: /castrandom? :P |
| 21:18.59 | Lyn | Dashkal, hehe... blood fits my playstyle and i *hope* 3.0.8 comes soon.. wanna have a lil ae+ :O |
| 21:18.59 | |pez| | XD |
| 21:18.59 | AbsolutRayne | Some people would consider it strange that id want Ice Cream in the middle of a Canadian winter. |
| 21:19.00 | AbsolutRayne | To those people, I say |
| 21:19.00 | AbsolutRayne | piss off |
| 21:19.15 | Cairenn|afk | AbsolutRayne: ice cream in winter is good |
| 21:19.21 | Dashkal | Why would you not want ice cream? O.o |
| 21:19.23 | |pez| | ice cream is really better in winter. |
| 21:19.32 | Cairenn|afk | will actually warm you up faster than hot chocolate or whatever |
| 21:19.53 | NightHawkTheSane | but hot chocolate tastes so goooood |
| 21:20.00 | Cairenn|afk | yes, yes it does |
| 21:20.08 | Cairenn|afk | but so does ice cream |
| 21:20.12 | NightHawkTheSane | true. |
| 21:20.16 | Dashkal | The two aren't mutually exclusive... |
| 21:20.18 | Lopeppeppy | Chocolate ice cream is for win. |
| 21:20.20 | AbsolutRayne | Cairenn|afk: And its Fudge Icecream too :3 |
| 21:20.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Dashkal: also true. |
| 21:20.27 | Cairenn|afk | AbsolutRayne: nummy |
| 21:20.51 | Cairenn|afk | AbsolutRayne: so who thought you were crazy for wanting ice cream? |
| 21:21.01 | AbsolutRayne | teh wifes brother |
| 21:21.21 | Cairenn|afk | the wife's brother not a Canadian? |
| 21:21.26 | AbsolutRayne | Yeah he is |
| 21:21.31 | AbsolutRayne | Just |
| 21:21.32 | Cairenn|afk | how very odd then |
| 21:21.33 | AbsolutRayne | silly |
| 21:21.36 | AbsolutRayne | I suppose |
| 21:26.33 | mikma | http://www.wowhead.com/?items=2.7 <- it's funny how there's 2x Warglaive of Azzinoth -sets :D |
| 21:28.09 | Lopeppeppy | TTFN guys! |
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| 21:31.47 | NightHawkTheSane | oh dear lord... http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2009/01/05/because_you_want_your_dog_to_t |
| 21:35.04 | mikma | you know... finding a fast OH sword is not easy |
| 21:35.14 | mikma | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40703 |
| 21:35.20 | mikma | here's one, costs 60 EoH |
| 21:37.23 | mikma | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44187 maybe the easiest one to get |
| 21:38.26 | Cairenn|afk | :) |
| 21:39.35 | KarlKFI | ice cream with hot fudge imo |
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| 21:40.20 | Cairenn|afk | mmmmmmm |
| 21:41.35 | Lunessa | ... Hot fudge, ice cream, Cairenn|afk and Lopeppeppy - and a hot tub. And 6 50" plasmas to play WoW on. |
| 21:41.43 | Cairenn|afk | hehehe |
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| 21:43.00 | AbsolutRayne | God |
| 21:43.07 | AbsolutRayne | People amaze me sometimes. |
| 21:43.12 | mikma | cairenn|afk: you prolly know, is there a "woman" version of 'leader' ? :) |
| 21:43.19 | Tewan | expand, AbsolutRayne? |
| 21:43.20 | Lunessa | Outside it 40 F - inside it is 100 f. |
| 21:43.32 | AbsolutRayne | One second |
| 21:43.36 | Cairenn|afk | mikma: uhn, "leader" |
| 21:43.54 | AbsolutRayne | http://crushingblows.guildlaunch.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2001368&sid=bd334971ba8af291022f2519d25e9046&gid=60991 Apparently, this is a 'Guild Application'. |
| 21:43.59 | mikma | cairenn|afk: yeah, but needs to be nicer lol :D |
| 21:44.05 | Cairenn|afk | why? |
| 21:44.41 | mikma | because its going for our guild leader lol :D |
| 21:44.50 | mikma | "divine leader" sounds too plain |
| 21:45.00 | Cairenn|afk | o.O |
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| 21:46.53 | Lunessa | You want a feminine word for 'leader'? I hate to break it to you, but there really aren't any in English. |
| 21:47.14 | Cairenn|afk | aye |
| 21:47.25 | mikma | yes, i know that. was kinda looking for a cuter version of the word |
| 21:47.28 | mikma | like a slang-word or so |
| 21:47.55 | Cairenn|afk | the feminine of "Master" (as in guild master) is "Mistress" ... but given the other bastardized usages of that word, you like don't want to go there |
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| 21:48.08 | mikma | true. |
| 21:48.09 | foxlit | "matron" |
| 21:48.22 | Cairenn|afk | oh you REALLY don't want to go THERE |
| 21:48.29 | Amarande | "Great and Almighty Queen"? |
| 21:48.30 | mikma | matron sounds like a matress |
| 21:48.42 | foxlit | mm, mattress! |
| 21:48.44 | alestane | "Lady" too often comes out sounding delicate. |
| 21:48.44 | mikma | hmm, queen is pretty. |
| 21:48.53 | Lunessa | Seriously. Unless you want to find yourself on boot-licking duty for the rest of your (very short) life. |
| 21:49.45 | mikma | just having fun with guildnotes |
| 21:49.50 | Cairenn|afk | I'd say "administratrix", but that's my title >:) |
| 21:50.16 | mikma | changing public notes around is funny. but only if you keep them funny, not insulting. |
| 21:50.26 | foxlit | Cairenn|afk: "the person appointed by a court to handle probate on behalf of someone who died without a will. " |
| 21:51.06 | Cairenn|afk | that as may be, "matron" sounds _old_ |
| 21:51.17 | Cairenn|afk | it'll offend any woman you dare apply it to :p |
| 21:51.31 | alestane | Same problem with "Doyenne". |
| 21:52.27 | foxlit | ^ definition of administratrix :) |
| 21:52.44 | Cairenn|afk | heh |
| 21:52.52 | AbsolutRayne | Hrm, to buy more Fish Eggs, or a Temperature Regulator... |
| 21:52.57 | AbsolutRayne | or Should I save for Tank Research |
| 21:53.10 | foxlit | (my previous message, not your response) |
| 21:53.19 | Cairenn|afk | yeah, figured it out |
| 21:53.26 | Amarande | And the only other interesting sounding leader title I can think of right now is 'Dowayne', but that appears to be used for both male and female leaders, and its usage, well ... unless your guild is called <Servants of Naamah> or something like that ... LOL |
| 21:53.36 | Cairenn|afk | hehehe |
| 21:53.50 | alestane | Part of the problem is that in English most offices that don't specify a female person ("Waitress") default to assume a male. |
| 21:54.52 | alestane | I can say "Executress" or "Executrix", but they both draw attention to the fact that I'm specifically referring to a woman, which "Executor" does not. |
| 21:55.20 | alestane | An executor could be either. |
| 21:56.03 | alestane | Matriarch is perhaps a little better than matron. |
| 21:56.26 | Cairenn|afk | no |
| 21:56.40 | Dashkal | Just a thought... but is her name insufficiently feminine to get the point across even with a gender neutral title? |
| 21:57.02 | Cairenn|afk | if you're looking for amusingly flattering, though - queen, goddess, she that is all knowing and lovely, etc |
| 21:57.38 | alestane | I went with Queen, although that was partly because we named the gild <Air and Darkness>. |
| 21:58.20 | Cairenn|afk | heh |
| 21:58.33 | alestane | "Empress"? |
| 21:58.45 | Cairenn|afk | little Laurell K. Hamilton going on, huh? |
| 21:58.46 | alestane | It's hard to look down on an Empress. |
| 21:58.54 | Cairenn|afk | empress is good |
| 21:59.41 | alestane | Cairenn|afk: References to the "Queen of Air and Darkness" significantly predate the Meredith Nic Essus books. |
| 21:59.58 | Cairenn|afk | I know, was just poking at ya :p |
| 21:59.59 | Tekkub | Cairenn|afk == Queen of Hair |
| 22:00.10 | Lunessa | "In the place of a Dark Lord you would have a Queen! Not dark but beautiful and terrible as the Morn! Treacherous as the Seas! Stronger than the foundations of the Earth! All shall love me and despair!" |
| 22:00.10 | Cairenn|afk | o.O |
| 22:00.15 | Tekkub | and Darkness? |
| 22:00.19 | Tekkub | Queen of Dark Hair |
| 22:01.07 | Tekkub | Queen of Dark Haired Labeled Cats |
| 22:01.09 | Tekkub | there we go |
| 22:02.30 | NightHawkTheSane | http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2009/01/05/americans_are_morons |
| 22:02.45 | alestane | NightHawkTheSane: This needed stating? |
| 22:02.58 | NightHawkTheSane | no, but always needs reiterating. :p |
| 22:02.58 | Amarande | I considered naming a guild <Servants of Naamah> once actually :) |
| 22:02.59 | melin[] | whats the texture link for the black protodrake spell? |
| 22:03.07 | Amarande | I wonder if that's reportable ... LOL |
| 22:04.09 | alestane | I was considering <Sons of Moag> at one point (spelling might have needing checking first). |
| 22:05.00 | Tewan | NightHawkTheSane, /sigh |
| 22:05.27 | Mike-N-Go | What does 'Table index is nil' error mean? |
| 22:05.38 | Lunessa | Wait a second now. I'm an American, and I am distinctly NOT an idiot. |
| 22:05.45 | Tewan | As am I. |
| 22:05.46 | foxlit | Mike-N-Go: you're trying to do t[nil] = "blah" |
| 22:05.46 | Cide | Mike-N-Go: what do you think? |
| 22:05.53 | Cide | too kind, foxlit. |
| 22:06.02 | Arrowmaster | lua> { [nil] = true } |
| 22:06.03 | Tewan | Cidan, lol |
| 22:06.03 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: luabot:1: table index is nil |
| 22:06.14 | Mike-N-Go | Ahh. |
| 22:06.30 | Cide | lua> ({})[nil] |
| 22:06.30 | lua_bot | Cide: nil |
| 22:06.34 | Cide | interesting |
| 22:06.39 | Cide | >>> ({})[nil] |
| 22:06.40 | Cide | Cide: nil |
| 22:06.44 | Cide | that actually works? |
| 22:07.00 | Cide | >>> t = { 1, 2, 3 }; return t[nil] |
| 22:07.00 | Cide | Cide: nil |
| 22:07.03 | Cide | I guess it does. |
| 22:07.07 | alestane | You can retrieve the nil index of a table, but not set it. |
| 22:07.18 | Cide | so it's always nil |
| 22:07.28 | Cide | I was under the impression that it errored |
| 22:07.36 | alestane | I believe this was intended to enable certain metatable behaviors. |
| 22:07.50 | Cide | ah |
| 22:08.06 | Cide | I guess you can use it to safely call __index :P |
| 22:08.53 | foxlit | Hah, DK T7 shoulders are fail while swimming |
| 22:09.44 | |pez| | I'd like to see anyone swimming with any amount og mail/plate armor on them really. :P |
| 22:10.03 | foxlit | Arms end up clipping through completely, and there's nothing on the back side of them |
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| 22:10.24 | Tewan | [16:08] <foxlit> Hah, DKs are fail |
| 22:10.28 | Tewan | fixed, removed 27 characters. |
| 22:10.49 | Dashkal | ~lart Tewan |
| 22:10.49 | purl | drops a humongous exploding nuke on Tewan |
| 22:10.55 | foxlit | Let's try a retort. |
| 22:10.56 | mikma | i'd kick his ass out because of that! |
| 22:10.57 | foxlit | Your mom is fail! |
| 22:11.10 | Tewan | foxlit, unfixable. |
| 22:11.52 | mikma | actually... |
| 22:12.04 | mikma | your mom is even bigger fail than dk, so that pretty much overwrites it. |
| 22:12.44 | Tewan | mikma, *confused* |
| 22:12.46 | Amarande | The other guild name I've considered of late were I to found one, is <House Shahrizai> |
| 22:13.04 | Amarande | gaaahhhh Thrym sucks. |
| 22:13.25 | foxlit | "Too soon! You are slacking off too soon!" |
| 22:13.59 | Tewan | I hate downloading 1mb of stupid ass animated fanbars. |
| 22:14.05 | Tewan | In one persons signature. |
| 22:15.24 | Tekkub | adblock? |
| 22:15.29 | foxlit | sigh. |
| 22:15.36 | foxlit | They should make Stamina increase health regeneration rate |
| 22:15.49 | foxlit | Just like they did with Int and mana. |
| 22:15.57 | Lunessa | When I was a forum mod I would remove .sigs like that and issue warnings then bans for people who wouldn't change. |
| 22:15.58 | Tewan | Tekkub, they're .gifs |
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| 22:16.35 | Tewan | Lunessa, if I were a forum mod, I'd do the same |
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| 22:16.37 | Tewan | :D |
| 22:17.14 | Tekkub | Tewan, so? adblock can block them |
| 22:17.41 | Amarande | Zul'Drak = really annoying sometimes |
| 22:17.45 | Amarande | mainly because of all the gimmick battles |
| 22:17.57 | Lunessa | Heh... Cairenn knows the pain I'm sure. Back in the 90s .sig files got out of hand rapidly. I had to remind people that a) not everyone had boradband, and that b) some people didn't have flat-rate internet so they were being douches expecting everyone to d/l their giant vanity piece. |
| 22:18.05 | Tewan | Tekkub, it'd be worthless for me |
| 22:18.26 | Tewan | I want to view other images like that, but when I find a user's signature that is like it, I don't want to see it |
| 22:18.34 | Tewan | And finding one like that is 1/40 or so page views. |
| 22:19.00 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:19.05 | Tekkub | BLOCK HIS SIG AND ONLY HIS |
| 22:19.20 | Tewan | Tekkub, that's the only time I'm ever going to see that person |
| 22:19.30 | Tewan | hence the "[16:18] <Tewan> And finding one like that is 1/40 or so page views." |
| 22:19.54 | Tekkub | so? block it now and you won't have to bitch if he crops up again |
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| 22:20.51 | Tewan | It'd take longer to do that than to just ignore it though. |
| 22:20.55 | Tewan | It's just annoying -_- |
| 22:21.36 | Tekkub | right click add to adblock is too long? :P |
| 22:21.37 | Amarande | yay for "boss fight that must be won using only certain specific vehicle powers" |
| 22:21.50 | foxlit | But those are awesome |
| 22:21.51 | Tewan | Tekkub, on 6 images, yes. |
| 22:22.01 | foxlit | As opposed to "boss fight that must be won using only certain class abilities" |
| 22:22.02 | Amarande | foxlit: I can't seem to get the hang of Thrym |
| 22:22.16 | nevcairiel | thrym is awesome |
| 22:22.49 | nevcairiel | or rather, gymer is awesome, best vehicle ever =P |
| 22:23.26 | foxlit | Nah, the Titan construct in scholozar > gymer. |
| 22:23.52 | nevcairiel | mm yeah that one is great too |
| 22:24.09 | Arrowmaster | do emotes whenever you are riding a vehicle like that |
| 22:24.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 22:24.25 | Arrowmaster | they dont stop when you move |
| 22:24.26 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14133096357&sid=1 |
| 22:24.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Something tells me that's not a bug |
| 22:25.11 | Tekkub | Tewan, oh, that's just bad forum setup/admin then, should only allow one image |
| 22:25.12 | Arrowmaster | its not |
| 22:25.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah I'm replying |
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| 22:26.11 | Arrowmaster | you cant use any of the escape codes that are numbers in chat messages |
| 22:26.11 | foxlit | "Not specific to test realms" -> "GTFO my forum!" |
| 22:27.06 | Lunessa | Gymer and the Scholazar basin one. |
| 22:27.35 | jaxdahl | ScytheBlade1, any idea why they stopped allowing | in guild MOTDs? |
| 22:27.45 | jaxdahl | it was such a nice divider to use |
| 22:27.48 | nevcairiel | because people exploited it =P |
| 22:27.54 | ScytheBlade1 | jaxdahl: we exploited the ever living crap out of it on the PTR, back during the 2.4 phase |
| 22:27.55 | kd3 | bad things with images |
| 22:27.58 | kd3 | >.> |
| 22:28.02 | jaxdahl | what the heck can you exploit with it |
| 22:28.03 | foxlit | So forcefully excape it |
| 22:28.04 | ScytheBlade1 | jaxdahl: with zoot in guild and online |
| 22:28.16 | ScytheBlade1 | You can crash clients |
| 22:28.21 | nevcairiel | jaxdahl: image escape sequences |
| 22:28.22 | jaxdahl | you can't escape it in the gmotd |
| 22:28.24 | nevcairiel | used to crash it |
| 22:28.45 | foxlit | jaxdahl: meaningless remark. If Blizzard wanted to, they could make anything do anything. |
| 22:29.07 | foxlit | In their UI, it's a trivial :gsub("|", "||") on the GMOTD before setting it to the font string |
| 22:29.45 | jaxdahl | pretty sure i tried || |
| 22:30.10 | WobWork | "In Sydney, Penrith is tipped to be the hot-spot with a forecast of 41 degrees. Liverpool can expect 39 and Parramatta 38, while the CBD will reach a high of 31." |
| 22:30.13 | WobWork | hm, |
| 22:31.31 | foxlit | jaxdahl: what you tried is irrelevant |
| 22:31.35 | jaxdahl | it was 28.3 on saturday here in texas, it hit a low of 1.7 today |
| 22:31.42 | foxlit | I'm not talking about having you escape the gmotd before attempting to set it |
| 22:31.52 | Lunessa | Texas = Win |
| 22:32.09 | foxlit | I'm talking about blizzard fixing the issue by escaping it before attempting to output it, rather than this bailing on any | char. |
| 22:39.46 | AbsolutRayne | What is it with people that think that theyll get instantly invited to a Raiding guild without apping. |
| 22:40.22 | NightHawkTheSane | people are idiots |
| 22:45.06 | WobWork | jaxdahl: 28 is quite nice |
| 22:45.19 | WobWork | (we're talking celcius here, right? =P) |
| 22:45.27 | WobWork | (cause I sure am!) |
| 22:46.01 | Tewan | WobWork, Texas never gets cold, so yes, Celcius |
| 22:46.17 | Tewan | @weather report |
| 22:46.25 | WobWork | Hehe, I have a workmate currently in Chicago |
| 22:46.28 | Tewan | Oh, wrong channel. |
| 22:46.29 | Tewan | :P |
| 22:46.35 | WobWork | He's having a -terrible- time atm |
| 22:46.41 | Tewan | "Location: Bastrop, TX (78602) - Updated at: 1/5/09 4:25 PM CST - Temp: 36F (2C) - Feels like: 30F (-2C) - Wind: N 7 MPH - Conditions: Cloudy" |
| 22:47.13 | WobWork | ~weather YSSY |
| 22:50.31 | |pez| | Hm, I don't have a 3.0.1 to 3.0.2 .exe file on my computer with WoW installed... Would copying the folder in "Updates" do the trick. |
| 22:50.34 | |pez| | ? |
| 22:50.46 | |pez| | (if I ofcourse clicked the upgrade exe in that folder... ) |
| 22:53.45 | ZealotOnAStick | ~weather MAF |
| 22:53.56 | Thunder_Child | http://www.rlslog.net/british-police-allowed-to-hack-into-personal-pcs/ |
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| 22:56.00 | ZealotOnAStick | ~weather kmdd |
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| 23:35.31 | kd3 | ~weather kvpc |
| 23:35.51 | kd3 | it's still 59? feels colder than that |
