| 00:03.54 | Shirik | ~irc |
| 00:03.55 | purl | "Welcome to IRC: where the men are boys, the women are boys, and 14-year-old girls are FBI agents." |
| 00:06.49 | mikma | oh fuck you blizzard |
| 00:07.04 | mikma | arenapoints reseted at 2am or something |
| 00:07.10 | mikma | didn't get points for last week :I |
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| 00:23.08 | Shirik | Anyone know what this means? |
| 00:23.08 | Shirik | tar: A lone zero block at 176799 |
| 00:23.25 | Tekkub | it wants a friend |
| 00:25.20 | Thunder_Child | but it's a zero....and no one wants to be friends with a zero |
| 00:25.40 | nevcairiel | Shirik: your tarball was written by an very old tar version |
| 00:26.03 | nevcairiel | there are like 2 zero blocks between files |
| 00:26.05 | nevcairiel | now anyway |
| 00:26.11 | nevcairiel | along time ago there was only one |
| 00:26.16 | nevcairiel | so its lonely now :( |
| 00:26.34 | Tekkub | what did I say? you people never fucking listen to me |
| 00:27.09 | mikma | lol |
| 00:27.30 | zenzelezz | Tekkub: that's because you're a lone zero block |
| 00:30.14 | Amarande | so, exactly what is it with Recount these days anyway? :| |
| 00:30.18 | Amarande | glad I don't use it now, in any case :S |
| 00:34.39 | Shirik | I see nevcairiel |
| 00:34.53 | nevcairiel | from what i hear |
| 00:35.02 | nevcairiel | Archive_Tar in PEAR still writes one zero block |
| 00:35.05 | Shirik | seems like it extracted ok |
| 00:36.54 | Amarande | from what I've been reading on wowhead, it seems like recount breaks countless numbers of quests somehow |
| 00:36.59 | Amarande | wtf did they do? |
| 00:40.09 | NeoTron | ... how so? |
| 00:40.35 | nevcairiel | i doubt thats true |
| 00:40.48 | nevcairiel | i highly doubt thats even possible |
| 00:41.38 | mikma | yey |
| 00:41.42 | Arrowmaster | Amarande: its not possible |
| 00:41.49 | mikma | you got slapped by the fishmaster |
| 00:42.07 | Arrowmaster | people are now saying recount has a keylogger |
| 00:42.10 | Fisker- | I'm pretty dangerous |
| 00:42.23 | Arrowmaster | seems like people are trying to give it a bad rep like they did with questhelper |
| 00:42.28 | Tekkub | that reminds me, I need to write my recount spam blocker |
| 00:42.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Arrowmaster: and others are saying that they're safe because they "have a firewall" |
| 00:42.31 | Tekkub | name it Decount |
| 00:42.32 | Fisker- | of course Arrowmaster |
| 00:42.41 | Fisker- | just rightclick on a persons name and choose "Show account details" |
| 00:45.17 | mikma | arrowmaster: lol, .lua keylogger. people are funneh |
| 00:49.21 | NeoTron | where are people saying Recount has a key logger? |
| 00:49.41 | NeoTron | and although it uses a lot of memory, the combination QH/LH has been nice for my leveling |
| 00:50.20 | NeoTron | QH fails when quest givers move and on quests where the objective is "finished" at the quest give (i.e save drakes/ppl in stormpeaks) |
| 00:50.44 | NeoTron | QH/LH/Recount + raid => 120 MB ui memory used :P |
| 00:51.09 | ScytheBlade1 | QH should go away in a raid |
| 00:51.14 | nevcairiel | QH fails in general, it doesnt shut down in instances or even in combat |
| 00:51.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Argubably, LH should also |
| 00:51.23 | nevcairiel | it eats away your memory, and causes alot of lag |
| 00:51.37 | nevcairiel | LH is only static memory, i dont worry about that so much :) |
| 00:51.43 | NeoTron | it doesn't "go away" in that it will still use memory if loaded |
| 00:51.52 | NeoTron | but I just go toggle QH off on the main map for when I don't need it |
| 00:51.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Note: "should" as in "in an ideal world" |
| 00:52.07 | Tekkub | TG doesn't do that! |
| 00:52.13 | Tekkub | *shameless plug* |
| 00:52.23 | NeoTron | Tekkub: I MUCH prefer TG... but unfortunately past Dragonblight I'm SoL :P |
| 00:52.36 | Tekkub | there's only one solution to that |
| 00:52.39 | Tekkub | LEVEL WITH ME |
| 00:52.44 | NeoTron | I was very glad to get dragonblight in TG my 3rd time through though |
| 00:53.21 | NeoTron | TG is superior for leveling but has the drawback of being manually designed :) |
| 00:53.41 | mikma | your mom is manually designed |
| 00:53.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Which is also why it's better ;) |
| 00:53.49 | NeoTron | I'll likely turn off QH on my L80 characters and just use LH when needed for directions |
| 00:54.03 | NeoTron | ScytheBlade1: ofc |
| 00:54.08 | NeoTron | I don't think there's any real competition here. |
| 00:54.15 | Tekkub | I've considered making a "quest location" addon (I.E. QH's data, minus all the extra unneeded crap)... but I think that time's better spent leveling and working on TG |
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| 00:54.45 | Tekkub | with TG I never need that info really |
| 00:54.49 | NeoTron | Tekkub: btw I've forgotten to mention this but when using TG on my DK it failed to properly take into account my level |
| 00:55.01 | NeoTron | basically told me to pick up the druid quests before I could which messed it up |
| 00:55.03 | Tekkub | "take into account"? |
| 00:55.19 | Tekkub | TG never cares about level |
| 00:55.26 | NeoTron | right so it fails |
| 00:55.28 | nevcairiel | worked fine for me when i used it for 60-70 in outlands |
| 00:55.35 | Tekkub | or you fail |
| 00:55.40 | NeoTron | this is specifically in Borean Tundra, starting at level 68 |
| 00:55.54 | Tekkub | yup, you fail |
| 00:55.58 | NeoTron | as-is (or as-was at launch) it didn't work |
| 00:56.06 | nevcairiel | the guides have a level where its designed for :) |
| 00:56.09 | Tekkub | TG is designed for you to start there at 70 |
| 00:56.14 | NeoTron | which is fail :) |
| 00:56.20 | Tekkub | you skip ahead, it's your own problem |
| 00:56.47 | Amarande | no, it's pretty wise to start there at 70, actually |
| 00:56.58 | nevcairiel | It doesnt matter =P |
| 00:57.00 | NeoTron | it was very wise to start at 68 so I actually get upgrades from questing |
| 00:57.10 | nevcairiel | I started with 68 too on my DK |
| 00:57.15 | NeoTron | it's designed as a 68-72 zone |
| 00:57.19 | nevcairiel | but i didnt even try to use TG |
| 00:57.26 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:57.28 | nevcairiel | because WotLK is streamlined |
| 00:57.42 | Tekkub | if you can't get quests, the the "failure" is blizzy not designing the zone around 68s instead of 70s |
| 00:58.06 | NeoTron | I can agree that it was stupid to limit the druid quests while pretty much everything else worked fine |
| 00:58.26 | Tekkub | nevcairiel, honestly, I find myself using TG more for the "use items" than for the quest order |
| 00:58.28 | NeoTron | there were a few that had other limitations too, like carrot quests |
| 00:58.39 | Tekkub | since like, every fucking quest out there has some item now |
| 00:58.44 | nevcairiel | Tekkub: yeah .. i was meaning to write a automagic quest item bar for Bartender .. |
| 00:58.48 | NeoTron | I used a addon specifically for that |
| 00:59.10 | NeoTron | QBar to be exact |
| 00:59.31 | Tekkub | there is still a little streamlining in TG, but it's mostly just making sure you hit hubs in the best order, not doing quests in the best order |
| 00:59.36 | NeoTron | I used AutoBar before but AutoBar relies on a manually entered list vs automatically figuring it out, so it's not very 'auto' in this respect |
| 00:59.55 | Tekkub | Autobar's a monster :P |
| 01:00.00 | nevcairiel | AutoBar is evil |
| 01:00.01 | NeoTron | no argument |
| 01:00.06 | NeoTron | but it's a useful monster |
| 01:00.20 | mikma | OPie does well in questitems |
| 01:00.33 | NeoTron | it's one of those thigns I optimized away in an attempt to get a leaner UI and then eventually returned to because i missed it |
| 01:00.35 | Tekkub | it might be useful, but is the worth the cost of the eaten babies? |
| 01:01.00 | NeoTron | until there's a better alternative that does waht it does, yes it is :P |
| 01:01.00 | Tekkub | plus the only "auto" I ever needed was food/water/pot |
| 01:01.03 | Tekkub | so, Buffet |
| 01:01.07 | nevcairiel | Buffet does all i need for "dynamic" buttons |
| 01:01.30 | Larana | Want to play WoW. *whimpers in withdrawl* |
| 01:01.51 | Tekkub | I've thought about OPie for target marking and use items, but... motivation |
| 01:01.52 | NeoTron | I use it for quite a bit more than that. I find things like the list of elixirs, buff food, potions etc to be useful too |
| 01:02.21 | Tekkub | I never really user elixirs and buff foods while leveling |
| 01:02.47 | Tekkub | maybe on a G2 quest I'll "buff up" but not day-to-day leveling |
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| 01:04.00 | NeoTron | well when leveling, sure but this is in normal level 80 play. raiding and such |
| 01:05.41 | Tekkub | yea see, I never have "normal endgame play" so |
| 01:06.04 | Tekkub | besides, I only really carry one of each consumable type, so it's easy to just pop my bag open |
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| 01:17.40 | Amarande | by the way, anyone else think that G5 world quests are kind of a dumb idea? |
| 01:18.10 | Tem | what? |
| 01:18.26 | Amarande | Tem: I'm thinking on the lines of 'it's hard enough on most servers for people to get a 5-man group together for an actual instance, let alone just to go out to the middle of nowhere somewhere to kill one quest mob' |
| 01:18.51 | Tem | oh |
| 01:18.55 | Tem | 5man group quests |
| 01:18.56 | Amarande | especially since G5 quests usually require an actual balanced, instance boss style group. :| |
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| 01:19.02 | Tem | they really aren't |
| 01:19.14 | Tem | at level 78, I soloed most of the icecrown G5 quests |
| 01:21.15 | Amarande | also |
| 01:21.26 | Amarande | what's the purple portal in the stone room west of the entrance to Azjol'Nerub? |
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| 01:23.07 | Amarande | that Ahn'kahet? |
| 01:23.23 | End | yes |
| 01:23.29 | End | if it's below a bit |
| 01:23.41 | End | I can't really visualize which compass direction it is :P |
| 01:24.52 | Amarande | it's to the left, anyway |
| 01:24.55 | Amarande | and yeah, a little below |
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| 01:28.02 | Shirik | There is no reason a web application should make you install X11 libs |
| 01:28.04 | Shirik | wtf is that |
| 01:28.17 | ScytheBlade1 | which? |
| 01:28.26 | Shirik | atlassian confluence |
| 01:28.38 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 01:28.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Huh, never heard of it |
| 01:30.11 | Tekkub | Atlantian? Too much Stargate for you |
| 01:31.15 | Morril | no such thing as to much stargate.. |
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| 01:40.37 | Dewin | I should try to log into WoW 5 minutes before New Year's. That way I can write an angry letter to Blizz telling them how I entered the queue in 2008 and didn't make it out until 2009. |
| 01:42.03 | Thunder_Child | >.< |
| 01:42.52 | Dewin | (our server is having 500+ queues every night, again. I'm hoping it's just christmas break) |
| 01:43.07 | Dewin | fortunately, I have another game to keep me busy while I wait ;) |
| 01:43.56 | Zyndrome | I broke the game ... I'm over the honorcap :< |
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| 01:59.34 | Amarande | grrr, sometimes I hate my fast mount |
| 01:59.59 | Corrodias | my, left 4 dead has a somewhat... unintuitive game-creation/joining experience |
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| 02:01.44 | Corrodias | such that i don't really understand how to use it. i don't see a way to specify a server you know about... |
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| 02:02.25 | Corrodias | ah, it requires the use of the console. wtf man. |
| 02:04.34 | Lonny` | Any WoWi admins here ? |
| 02:06.11 | Lonny` | I'm having some problem with another author, I sent a PM to Cairenn about it |
| 02:08.24 | Corrodias | "This guide assumes you know how to forward the correct game ports to your computer if you are behind a router/firewall." -- well yeah, i do, but the guide forgets to actually say WHAT ports the game uses |
| 02:08.57 | Thunder_Child | Lonny`, Cairenn is afk for a few days, go bug Shirik since he wanted to hide |
| 02:09.07 | Lonny` | :D |
| 02:09.09 | Shirik | in boss fight, one sec |
| 02:12.17 | Shirik | ok, what's up Lonny` |
| 02:12.30 | Lonny` | Can we take it to private mate ? |
| 02:12.34 | Shirik | yup |
| 02:12.55 | tekkub | aw, we wanted stupid dramas |
| 02:13.22 | Shirik | what's with the lack of capital T |
| 02:14.14 | tekkub | harassing people on #github is all |
| 02:16.29 | Shirik | good |
| 02:16.34 | Shirik | git sucks anyway |
| 02:21.47 | mikma | we want drama! |
| 02:21.54 | mikma | lonny`: dont be a chicken |
| 02:27.19 | Lonny` | You want drama ? I'll give you one. |
| 02:27.29 | Lonny` | but not now. |
| 02:27.35 | Lonny` | ;p |
| 02:29.38 | mikma | now whats the fun in that |
| 02:30.15 | Lonny` | spoiler of it ? haha |
| 02:30.46 | Lonny` | enjoy it while it last :) |
| 02:32.49 | Tuller | quick: someone solve the problem of how to display buffs and debuffs in the perfect way, for all classes |
| 02:34.01 | Gngsk | ~perfect |
| 02:34.02 | purl | There is no such thing as absolute perfection. Perfection is completely subjective. [with the possible exception of Debian.] See Debian. |
| 02:34.13 | Thunder_Child | Tuller, thats easy |
| 02:34.15 | Gngsk | pfft debian? |
| 02:34.27 | Gngsk | someone was looking for drama/ |
| 02:34.30 | Thunder_Child | it's just that the tech doesnt exist yet for it |
| 02:34.39 | Tuller | bah |
| 02:34.46 | Tuller | laserbeams? |
| 02:35.12 | Gngsk | charged laserbeams! |
| 02:35.33 | Thunder_Child | first of all, laser beams exist |
| 02:35.52 | Wobin | what's a good totem addon? |
| 02:35.57 | Thunder_Child | 2nd, how exactly would that help with buffs/debuffs? |
| 02:36.37 | Gngsk | wobin, when I played my shaman I used poppins, unfortunately it wasn't ported to 3.0 |
| 02:38.23 | Tuller | Thunder_Child: easy, laserbeam your face with the proper smell of what you need to do next |
| 02:39.14 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Tuller |
| 02:39.15 | purl | Tuller: FAIL! |
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| 02:39.58 | Tuller | either way, I think there's a few sets of information: that that needs to be associated with a unit, and that that does not |
| 02:39.59 | Wobin | Tuller: What if he has no nose?! |
| 02:40.13 | Tuller | that's why it goes through the eyes |
| 02:40.21 | Thunder_Child | Tuller, huh? |
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| 02:40.42 | Tuller | buffs that needs to be associated with a specific unit: lifebloom, rejuv, other hots |
| 02:40.50 | Tuller | buffs that do not: gift of the wild, raid buffs |
| 02:41.02 | Wobin | Tuller: no no. You're supposed to say: "No nose?! How does he smell?!" |
| 02:41.05 | Tuller | your own self buffs, to an extent, I would think |
| 02:41.26 | Pytlask | Hey everyone :) |
| 02:41.52 | Thunder_Child | Tuller, what do you mean by associated? |
| 02:41.58 | Thunder_Child | and do you mean the caster or target? |
| 02:42.17 | Pytlask | Tuller: Are you complaining about the lack of buff association in combat log messages? |
| 02:42.22 | Tuller | no |
| 02:42.26 | Thunder_Child | and do you know you can do most of what i dont understand with ebb |
| 02:42.44 | tekkub | okey, this is bad... |
| 02:42.48 | Tuller | i'm just trying to think of a good way of visualizing things so |
| 02:43.05 | tekkub | blizzy's logic tests in the auction code is so wacky I'm making a fucking truth table |
| 02:43.08 | Thunder_Child | Tuller, ebb will let you pick and choose what to display...so will some of the others |
| 02:43.15 | tekkub | because I'm not sure my simplification is correct |
| 02:43.19 | Pytlask | tekkub: watcha mean? |
| 02:43.44 | tekkub | what do you mean what do I mean? |
| 02:44.08 | Tuller | Thunder_Child: without covering half of my screen :P |
| 02:44.09 | Wobin | why do you mean what does he mean by what does he mean? |
| 02:44.20 | Pytlask | Wobin beat me to it :( |
| 02:44.30 | Pytlask | tekkub: I was just wondering what part was strange |
| 02:44.33 | Hirsute | Hrmmm. http://norgdev.pastey.net/105309. When that code runs with no arguments, and tiftDB.phraseblacklist is empty (just initialized with tiftDB.phraseblacklist = {}), the result is printing "n is 0", but then nothing else happens. Anyone see any obvious reasons why? |
| 02:44.48 | tekkub | it's just convoluted logic tests |
| 02:44.53 | Wobin | why am I misreading tift as tit? |
| 02:44.58 | tekkub | I'm trying to simplify it, but I think I fucked it up |
| 02:45.23 | tekkub | so I have to make a truth table to ensure it's right... and I've NEVER had to use one of those outside stupid programming classes |
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| 02:45.32 | Tuller | mwahahaha |
| 02:46.09 | Hirsute | tekkub: were the convoluted logic tests in the code I posted above, or is that from an already running conversation? |
| 02:46.14 | Thunder_Child | Tuller, so create a multipane gui replacement |
| 02:46.19 | Thunder_Child | lazy bastard |
| 02:46.25 | Pytlask | Hirsute: You mean its not printing "No words are currently blacklisted"? |
| 02:46.50 | Hirsute | Pytlask: Not printing that, or erroring when it tries to print something involving the nil blacklist. |
| 02:46.53 | Tuller | Thunder_Child: I still have yet to define exactly what I want in a buff display |
| 02:46.55 | tekkub | god can I not make a random statement without confusing people? fuck |
| 02:47.03 | Wobin | Hirsute: try putting in a colour as the first argument for the print? |
| 02:47.06 | tekkub | also, stop distracting me for you confusion! :P |
| 02:47.10 | Tuller | just something with "just the right amount of information" |
| 02:47.26 | Hirsute | Wobin: You win! |
| 02:47.28 | Hirsute | Thanks! |
| 02:47.34 | Wobin | no worries =) |
| 02:47.59 | tekkub | and I did fuck it up, ugh |
| 02:48.02 | Hirsute | I've spent too much time on that code today. To miss that, when *I* wrote the the print function I was trying to use... that's just dumb. |
| 02:48.36 | Thunder_Child | Tuller, i always thought it was more about how it was visually represented than what was represented |
| 02:49.10 | Tuller | well, I don't like buffbars if that helps :P |
| 02:49.28 | Tuller | since its really no different to me than just displaying everything like the stock ui does right now |
| 02:49.31 | Tuller | only with more animation |
| 02:49.36 | Tuller | well, more blatant animation |
| 02:50.38 | Thunder_Child | sorry Tuller, i dont know an addon that makes buffs/debuffs dance a jig |
| 02:51.00 | Tuller | I do |
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| 02:52.33 | Tuller | hrm..bouncing buff icons like a dock? |
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| 03:19.46 | End | hm |
| 03:19.51 | End | I think I confused Ampere |
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| 04:17.05 | linear` | is the origin of a texture on the top left or bottom left |
| 04:18.49 | Iriel | TL, IIRC |
| 04:19.00 | Iriel | it's on the wiki page |
| 04:19.03 | Iriel | about coordinates |
| 04:19.37 | Iriel | http://www.wowwiki.com/SetTexCoord_Transformations |
| 04:19.58 | Iriel | Within an image, we'll use the term Image Coordinate to refer to the location within the contents of the image. The corners are (0,0) for the top left, (1,0) for the top right, (0,1) for the bottom left, and (1,1) for the bottom right. Notice that the image origin is in a different corner from the screen origin. |
| 04:20.36 | linear` | right above that paragraph |
| 04:20.48 | linear` | it says 0,0 is bottom left |
| 04:21.14 | Iriel | This is why we should always read ALL of a page, above that you'll see it says "Texture FRAME Elements" |
| 04:21.43 | linear` | o right |
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| 04:22.20 | linear` | because the origin of frames is bottom left |
| 04:26.29 | Shirik | bahhhh |
| 04:26.38 | Shirik | Bamboo falls victim to the same bug I reported about Fisheye months ago |
| 04:30.44 | Fogger | I'm following the TargetText tutorial in the WoW Programming book but I've hit a snag with the ManaBarColor index changing to PowerBarColor in WoTLK. its first value is no longer a string of the Power Type, ie. http://lua.pastey.net/105315 so the code no longer works and theres no obvious fix that I can see, any suggestions? my code > http://lua.pastey.net/105314 |
| 04:33.24 | Fogger | There's nothing in the wowprogramming.com forum that helps other than to say "Mana" becomes "Power" & I'm still waiting on the conformation email for my registration to the forum, so cant post there yet. |
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| 04:34.22 | linear` | the 2nd arg of UnitPowerType returns the type u need to do select(2, |
| 04:34.48 | Shirik | bad linear`! |
| 04:34.53 | linear` | o nvm |
| 04:34.54 | linear` | u dont need it |
| 04:35.17 | linear` | i didnt read the bottom part of the table |
| 04:37.09 | Fogger | problem is ManaBarColor[0].prefix no longer exists |
| 04:37.42 | Fogger | I guess it had 4 elements, "prefix,r,g,b", but now only 3 "r,g,b" |
| 04:40.33 | Fogger | yes, this is how it used to be in 2.4.3: http://lua.pastey.net/105316 |
| 04:43.01 | Fogger | oh, could I replace 'info.prefix' with 'select(2,UnitPowerType("target"))'? |
| 04:46.25 | linear` | u could probably do |
| 04:46.38 | linear` | _G[select(2,UnitPowerType("target"))] |
| 04:46.54 | linear` | yeah that works |
| 04:47.58 | Fogger | select(2,UnitPowerType("target")) works, thanks linear` :) |
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| 04:52.13 | bleetah | Adys: I think I'll stick with believing my lappy's ATI will play WoW Wine 3D before the 'leak' is found under nVidia ;) http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_r600_oss_3d&num=1 |
| 04:52.54 | kd3 | oh wow |
| 04:53.23 | kd3 | I think this may signal the tides changing... |
| 04:54.18 | bleetah | kd3: as you know... I've been saying fer months... nVidia are the devil and should DIAF ;) |
| 04:55.01 | kd3 | meh. right now I've got more pressing annoyances... like figuring out why banshee's using nearly a gig of my ipod's space on the cover art database >.< |
| 04:55.05 | Shirik | can anyone do me a favor and tell me if http://www.heresiarchguild.com is accessible? |
| 04:55.36 | kd3 | fx got the domain name, but it's stuck at connecting |
| 04:55.44 | Shirik | I broke something :/ |
| 04:55.48 | Shirik | But all I did was a wget |
| 04:55.52 | bleetah | kd3: stuffed if I know. I was using exaile until I tried using my iPod Classic with it. It was so bad at locking hard, I'm using rhythmbox instead |
| 04:56.18 | kd3 | meh, I'd like to use gtkpod but it can't do the 4th gen nano properly |
| 04:56.26 | kd3 | suppose I should look at rhythmbox too |
| 04:56.47 | bleetah | yar i wanted to use gtkpod to get some video onto mine, but.. :( |
| 04:57.48 | bleetah | i also wanted to play quake on an ipod of my own, and thought I was going to until I discovered my brother had again given me a lemon for christmas. hey, I shouldn't complain, at least this one powers up :D |
| 04:58.13 | kd3 | har |
| 04:58.38 | Amarande | Heresiarch ... I remember that name |
| 04:58.40 | Amarande | Hexen, right? :) |
| 04:58.58 | Thunder_Child | gee, and here i have never had a problem with itunes yet |
| 04:59.15 | kd3 | not that itunes 8 works on linux... |
| 04:59.35 | Thunder_Child | wine? |
| 04:59.51 | kd3 | it fails somewhere around the stage that the bonjour service gets installed |
| 05:02.59 | bleetah | btw |
| 05:03.09 | bleetah | yes, blizzard use a broken MD5 SSL signer |
| 05:03.14 | bleetah | in case anyone missed it |
| 05:03.18 | kd3 | failtastic |
| 05:03.28 | kd3 | any word on the other security situation? |
| 05:03.46 | bleetah | nope |
| 05:04.05 | bleetah | they're still advertising it as a one-time password |
| 05:04.08 | bleetah | so nfi |
| 05:05.29 | Gnarfoz | "the other security situation"? ^^ |
| 05:05.34 | Shirik | careful kd3 |
| 05:05.47 | Gnarfoz | bleetah: the question is: does their cert chain include any certs that actually use MD5 |
| 05:06.27 | bleetah | Gnarfoz: blizz use thawte |
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| 05:07.30 | Gnarfoz | that... does not answer the question |
| 05:07.56 | Gnarfoz | just because "that pdf" says "Thawte uses MD5" |
| 05:08.01 | Gnarfoz | doesn't mean they do so exclusively ^^ |
| 05:21.14 | MentalPower | Gnarfoz: it does |
| 05:21.19 | MentalPower | just inspect the CA cert |
| 05:21.28 | MentalPower | as provided here: https://www.blizzard.com/login/login.xml?referer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.worldofwarcraft.com%2Faccount%2F&loginType=wow |
| 05:22.43 | MentalPower | Signature Algorithm == md5RSA |
| 05:22.46 | Gnarfoz | well, if it's in the CA cert... |
| 05:23.02 | kd3 | fail. my bank uses md5 too |
| 05:23.05 | MentalPower | blizz itself has a sha-1 cert |
| 05:23.15 | bleetah | does shuttleworth still ahve shares in thawte? that'd be freakin hilarious if he did |
| 05:23.17 | Gnarfoz | == "PKCS #1 MD5 With RSA Encryption" btw, dunno what you're using that shows "md5RSA" oO |
| 05:23.22 | bleetah | first debian, the kinda ubuntu |
| 05:23.32 | bleetah | Gnarfoz: ie |
| 05:23.42 | Gnarfoz | (which is the same really, just "friendly text" ;P) |
| 05:23.57 | MentalPower | Gnarfoz: I exported it to a crt file |
| 05:24.06 | Gnarfoz | MentalPower: oh, heh |
| 05:24.08 | MentalPower | was gonna pastey it, but I'm too lazy |
| 05:24.33 | Gnarfoz | bleetah: how'd that be hilarious? (guess I don't know enough about that guy for that to make sense) |
| 05:24.56 | bleetah | Gnarfoz: he founded Thawte.. he sold it in 1999 to Verisign. In 2004 he started Ubuntu |
| 05:25.03 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 05:25.19 | bleetah | Ubuntu's based from Debian. Debian have .. a .. history.. with SSL kinda stuff ;) |
| 05:25.25 | mikma | hey i got a weird guestion |
| 05:25.31 | mikma | ququququ |
| 05:25.37 | Gnarfoz | "a history" is kind of exaggerating it, don't you think ;D |
| 05:25.51 | mikma | sorry... but how does the blizz authenticator work actually? |
| 05:26.03 | Gnarfoz | mikma: like SecurID does, too |
| 05:26.04 | MentalPower | interesting, both my bank and verisign use SHA-1, but VeriSign's root uses *MD2* WTF! |
| 05:26.05 | mikma | anyone knows the mechanism etc |
| 05:26.05 | kd3 | it's just an rsa key |
| 05:26.05 | Shirik | you get a number, you type it in |
| 05:26.13 | Gnarfoz | MentalPower: awesome! |
| 05:26.31 | MentalPower | "Class 3 Public Primary Certification Authority" |
| 05:26.34 | mikma | i enter code from device, device generates code, but how does it work? |
| 05:26.40 | Gnarfoz | mikma: everyone knows the mechanism, if they can be arsed to go to wikipedia.org/RSA_SecurID whatever |
| 05:26.49 | Shirik | ^^ |
| 05:26.54 | Shirik | SecurID tokens aren't new |
| 05:27.01 | Shirik | though RSA's SecurID tokens are a lot cooler |
| 05:27.04 | Shirik | they have a lot more flashing lights |
| 05:27.11 | Gnarfoz | do they employ... sound? |
| 05:27.13 | MentalPower | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SecurID |
| 05:27.13 | bleetah | mikma: big DB & calculator @ Blizz HQ use the time and serial number on the authenticator to 'know' what 'random' number appears on the display @ the user's end |
| 05:27.14 | mikma | no they arent but i didnt know how it works =) |
| 05:27.24 | Shirik | one blinks every second and then they have a little bar on them that goes down indicating how long until the next number comes up |
| 05:27.32 | Shirik | a lot more fun |
| 05:27.38 | Gnarfoz | flashy. |
| 05:29.01 | Shirik | my server is being a bitch, wtf |
| 05:29.07 | Shirik | it keeps locking up when I do a wget |
| 05:29.12 | Shirik | like, the entire thing freezes |
| 05:30.59 | Thunder_Child | stop doing it then |
| 05:31.02 | MentalPower | Shirik: does your server run on a PentiumII? |
| 05:31.10 | Shirik | I hope not |
| 05:31.11 | kd3 | or vista? |
| 05:31.14 | Shirik | fuck no |
| 05:31.19 | Shirik | It runs gentoo |
| 05:31.37 | Gnarfoz | --funroll-loops |
| 05:31.45 | Gnarfoz | did you compile with --work-damnit? |
| 05:32.09 | MentalPower | nice |
| 05:32.28 | Shirik | I would like to know what it's running though |
| 05:32.30 | Shirik | I never bothered to find out |
| 05:33.03 | Iriel | Shirik: is it a physical box or virtual server? |
| 05:33.32 | Shirik | virtual server, the box is split into a bunch of boxes with virtual root |
| 05:33.40 | bleetah | by the sounds of it, it's not running anything atm /shrug /duck /flee |
| 05:34.10 | Shirik | ~lart bleetah |
| 05:34.10 | purl | resizes bleetah's terminal to 40x24 |
| 05:34.17 | bleetah | oooh |
| 05:35.23 | bleetah | ~botsnack |
| 05:35.23 | purl | bleetah: thanks |
| 05:38.36 | Shirik | apparently the box is a quad xeon |
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| 05:51.03 | mikma | i'd hate to see this happen: http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/0/05/Fail_Blizzar_Authenticator.jpg |
| 05:52.51 | Thunder_Child | upsidedown? |
| 05:53.44 | Aiiane | what would the A be then? |
| 05:54.06 | Thunder_Child | misformated u |
| 05:55.22 | Iriel | I suspect that's what happens if the device experiences a significant failure or detects tampering |
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| 05:56.14 | Shirik | sigh |
| 05:56.37 | Shirik | I just spent the last 20 minutes trying to figure out why my server isn't coming back up, only to realize that when my server crashed the firewall settings weren't saved :/ |
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| 05:56.49 | Iriel | hehe, oops 8-) |
| 05:57.34 | Shirik | oh look, all of a sudden it works |
| 05:57.40 | Shirik | excuse me while I go bash my head against a wall please |
| 05:58.18 | mikma | thunder_child: whaddaya mean upsidedown, thats the correct position of authenticator |
| 05:59.34 | Thunder_Child | mikma, i know, it was a joke |
| 05:59.35 | Shirik | mikma: Does that really happen or is thatp hotoshopped? |
| 05:59.37 | Shirik | just curious? |
| 05:59.51 | Shirik | That would be an intelligent way of indicating that there's a detected problem |
| 05:59.53 | mikma | thats from wowwiki |
| 06:00.49 | Iriel | I dont see any reason to doubt it's legitimate |
| 06:02.11 | MentalPower | small sensor that pops if the unit is opened? |
| 06:02.14 | MentalPower | just a guess |
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| 06:21.39 | tekkub | weird, you have to explicitly pass nil to somebuttonframe:SetNormalTexture() |
| 06:22.22 | tekkub | every other Set* function out there works fine called with no args at all to clear the texture/text/whatever |
| 06:28.51 | MentalPower | I |
| 06:28.57 | MentalPower | I'd file a bug report on that |
| 06:29.55 | Shirik | uh oh |
| 06:30.04 | Shirik | Swap: 524280k total, 524280k used, 0k free, 9556k cached |
| 06:30.16 | Shirik | maybe that's why everything's breaking |
| 06:30.18 | Iriel | Well, is that because the 'default' for all the others IS the normal texture? so it can't be nil? |
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| 06:41.58 | squidbear | Is there a standalone keybound addon? |
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| 07:31.49 | tekkub | you know.. when you're in the bathroom doing your thing... guggly water noises are kinda disconcerting |
| 07:31.54 | tekkub | damn floorboard heater |
| 07:33.13 | Shirik | ... what? |
| 07:33.31 | tekkub | baseboard water heaters |
| 07:33.42 | tekkub | I'm on the top floor of our building, they get air in em a lot |
| 07:34.01 | Thunder_Child | "your thing" |
| 07:34.11 | Thunder_Child | i didnt know people had a "thing" in the bathroom |
| 07:34.39 | tekkub | when I'm in the bathroom, my "thing" is usually the main attraction |
| 07:35.50 | Thunder_Child | attraction? you sell tickets |
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| 07:36.53 | Corrodias | i bought a season pass |
| 07:38.18 | Thunder_Child | /cry |
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| 07:59.41 | amro | http://www.mninja.org/wowshots/no_rez_for_you.jpg anyone else ever get that? |
| 08:00.34 | Carepolice | horrible font :\ |
| 08:02.12 | amro | relevant |
| 08:02.27 | Carepolice | :P |
| 08:02.28 | amro | happened a couple of times and I had to run to corpse |
| 08:02.42 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 08:02.43 | purl | ~pong |
| 08:02.48 | Cidan | ~pong |
| 08:02.48 | purl | ~ping |
| 08:02.48 | Carepolice | are you absolutely sure that u are on the same 'level'? |
| 08:02.59 | amro | check the combat log |
| 08:03.01 | Carepolice | ~pang ; ouch ! fail |
| 08:03.15 | amro | I'm getting th especial immunity but I can't even see the healer |
| 08:03.25 | amro | nor anyone else |
| 08:03.28 | amro | look at the minimap |
| 08:03.37 | amro | I suspect it's a phasing bug |
| 08:04.00 | Shirik | ~stab Cidan |
| 08:04.01 | purl | ACTION runs at Cidan with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
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| 08:04.19 | Cidan | D= |
| 08:04.20 | Shirik | I have determined that my HTML skills suck |
| 08:04.26 | Shirik | like, beyond suck |
| 08:04.28 | Carepolice | horrible font again :P ; :\ o don't understand that :\\\\ i mean..... mMm... wtf? I never had that kind of 'bugs' or whatever |
| 08:04.34 | Shirik | I have managed to make a very basic webpage though |
| 08:05.14 | amro | phasing bugs a lot |
| 08:06.20 | amro | http://www.mninja.org/wowshots/invisible.jpg for instance |
| 08:07.21 | Carepolice | lolz |
| 08:08.14 | Shirik | that's my favorite bug |
| 08:08.18 | Shirik | I seen that too |
| 08:08.25 | Shirik | But you know, it's new, you can't expect it'll work perfectly |
| 08:08.32 | Shirik | it still works amazingly well and is really cool |
| 08:08.33 | Carepolice | I only saw that when the game has to load the world, environment, etc. and you see mounts with invisible riders, but some seconds later that's all on it's place. |
| 08:09.15 | amro | that's true it works pretty well for a new system |
| 08:09.29 | Shirik | I also hate you for your font |
| 08:09.41 | Cidan | I'm not sure how I ever played WoW without widescreen |
| 08:09.42 | Shirik | how can you live with that |
| 08:10.05 | amro | easily |
| 08:10.14 | Carepolice | I always played wow on WideScreen :\ |
| 08:10.32 | amro | I change it often though |
| 08:10.43 | amro | sometimes I pick randomly, I just like changing it |
| 08:11.30 | Carepolice | well... not always :P i changed a 14,5" (1280x800) to 17" (1600x1200) and then 20" (1680x1050) and now... waiting shipping of 22" (1920x1080) |
| 08:13.08 | Iriel | I hate your font, also. |
| 08:13.08 | Tewan | 1920x1080 22"? Where? |
| 08:13.08 | Iriel | Just for the record. |
| 08:13.08 | Carepolice | WideScreen is cool, of course, the problem comes when you download some UI that is not prepared for your resolution |
| 08:13.22 | Carepolice | Tewan so cheap BenQ only 149euro. |
| 08:13.36 | Carepolice | I hate that font too. |
| 08:13.42 | Cidan | Carepolice: I'm using a 24 inch on 1920 as well, it's... mm. |
| 08:13.51 | Iriel | 24" 1920 x 1200 here |
| 08:13.52 | Carepolice | 1920x1200 :P |
| 08:13.57 | Iriel | for wow anyway |
| 08:14.09 | Cidan | Glossy screen ftw! |
| 08:14.09 | Thrae | 30" 2560x1600. |
| 08:14.15 | Iriel | Eww, I hate glossy screens |
| 08:14.20 | Cidan | Really? |
| 08:14.23 | Iriel | Reflection FTL |
| 08:14.24 | Cidan | I can't use anything but |
| 08:14.46 | Carepolice | Thrae o_O what graphic card do you use? |
| 08:14.52 | Thrae | I need to tweak my UI scale with 2560x1600, everything's so damn small... |
| 08:14.54 | Iriel | Thrae: I keep trying to talk myself into a 30" , and failing |
| 08:14.55 | Tewan | amro, since you posted oyur interface, http://tewan.info/?n=myinterface = mine. |
| 08:15.01 | Tewan | Also, I hate that font as well. |
| 08:15.43 | Carepolice | what addon do you use for minimap? :\ |
| 08:15.47 | Thrae | Iriel: Talk yourself into this -- http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/one-screen-to-rule-them-all/gateway-xhd3000-extreme-hd-30+incher-reviewed-verdict-really-ties-the-room-together-307408.php |
| 08:15.56 | Tewan | pMinimap. :( |
| 08:16.28 | Carepolice | some time ago i only see minimaps on left side of the screen :\ |
| 08:16.29 | amro | Tewan: function keys? |
| 08:16.46 | Thrae | Carepolice: Overclocked 8800 GT 512MB |
| 08:16.52 | Iriel | Thrae: Well, right now the desk has 24" + 24" + 21", It'd become 24" + 30" and that may just be a bit too weird |
| 08:16.59 | Iriel | Plus, $1700 - a bit much, for now |
| 08:17.07 | ZorbaTHut | I've got 30" + 19" + 17" |
| 08:17.11 | Carepolice | wtf? 8800? |
| 08:17.14 | ZorbaTHut | it's quite nice |
| 08:17.45 | Carepolice | and that runs wow 2560x1600 30fps at least? :\\\\ |
| 08:17.49 | Tewan | amro, Function keys? What do you mean? |
| 08:17.51 | Iriel | One of my 24"'s is a gateway too, and i'm not all that happy with its picture quality |
| 08:17.55 | amro | for your hotkeys |
| 08:17.58 | ZorbaTHut | I run my WoW in a window ;) |
| 08:18.04 | amro | Carepolice: intel gma runs wow fine |
| 08:18.05 | Carepolice | ¬¬ |
| 08:18.09 | ZorbaTHut | seriously, with a 30" monitor, you kind of stop bothering with fullscreen |
| 08:18.11 | Tewan | Bartender + Button Facade. Check http://gallery.tewan.info/main.php?g2_itemId=68 |
| 08:18.23 | Carepolice | I run wow on max monitor resolution always |
| 08:18.24 | Thrae | Iriel: I talked myself into it because of the upconversion is quite nice when I can't get 2560x1600. This monitor still blows away any other I've used at 1920x1200. |
| 08:18.50 | Iriel | I've got an 8800 GT so i should be able to handle fullscreen (the big monitor would go on the mac) |
| 08:18.56 | Carepolice | I was watching some 37" FullHD TVs but... a bit expensive :\ |
| 08:19.26 | Carepolice | I guess you are (all) from USA |
| 08:19.29 | Thrae | Carepolice: Shatt was ~60FPS usually with my adjustments |
| 08:19.41 | Iriel | I wouldn't use for for anything but a 'monitor' since TV and stuff is in another room |
| 08:19.57 | Thrae | 8800 GT can't get you max settings of course, but close for an old engine like WoW |
| 08:20.03 | Tewan | I have two Samsung 22" monitors that I'm happy with. :P My current desk setup: http://gallery.tewan.info/main.php?g2_itemId=220 |
| 08:20.50 | Iriel | Tewan: I have their 24" big brother in front of me (just one, the other 24" isthe afforementioned gateway) |
| 08:20.50 | ZorbaTHut | at some point more pixels gets kind of silly. I mean, http://cams.pavlovian.net/lolhuge.jpg |
| 08:21.07 | ZorbaTHut | I'm not really gaining anything from the resolution at that point :P |
| 08:21.21 | ZorbaTHut | oh, mislink. http://cams.pavlovian.net/tdu/lolhuge.jpg |
| 08:21.39 | Thrae | This 30" has HDMI, Component, etc. so I use it for consoles and TV alike. Well actually I do TV on my PC because I like using my processor to further refine the picture. |
| 08:21.51 | Tewan | I wanted a 1920x1080 resolution, but I didn't want to go bigger than 22. |
| 08:21.57 | Iriel | ZorbaTHut: It depends how big the images you have are |
| 08:22.16 | Tewan | Also, it has to be Samsung. :P |
| 08:22.30 | Iriel | I'm happy with my samsungs |
| 08:22.30 | ZorbaTHut | iriel, my point is that for something like WoW, it starts to get rather silly |
| 08:22.30 | Tewan | ZorbaTHut, the thing is loading so slow. |
| 08:22.33 | Carepolice | I don't know if samsung has any 22 fullhd |
| 08:22.35 | Iriel | the 21" is starting to fail tho |
| 08:22.39 | ZorbaTHut | tewan, yeah, it's hosted on my home DSL. :P |
| 08:22.46 | ZorbaTHut | I'm lazy and didn't feel like uploading it elsewhere. |
| 08:22.47 | Thrae | Yeah, mine has a Samsung panel. |
| 08:22.48 | Tewan | Ah. |
| 08:23.11 | Iriel | (it's my oldest LCD monitor, cost me $1,300 when I got it) |
| 08:23.19 | Carepolice | o_O |
| 08:23.20 | Tewan | :P |
| 08:23.29 | ZorbaTHut | I have QOS turned on, you won't lag me all that much ;) |
| 08:23.43 | Tewan | Well forget you too. </3 |
| 08:24.27 | Tewan | I should really put the side of my case on my computer. |
| 08:24.31 | Tewan | I'm tired of hearing a jet. |
| 08:24.48 | ZorbaTHut | or get quieter fans (and put the side of the case on) |
| 08:24.55 | ZorbaTHut | my computer network is pretty much silent. it's nice. |
| 08:25.07 | Tewan | ZorbaTHut, GTX280 = no possible quiet fan |
| 08:25.20 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, there's a reason I don't have a GTX280 ;) |
| 08:25.33 | Corrodias | depends on what you consider to be quiet |
| 08:25.34 | Tewan | There's a reason I do |
| 08:25.35 | Tewan | :P |
| 08:25.38 | *** join/#wowuidev Srosh (n=Srosh@c209035.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 08:25.38 | Thrae | ZorbaTHut: 260 now has 55nm |
| 08:25.51 | Tewan | I saw that too, but I got mine a while back. D: |
| 08:26.04 | Corrodias | my computers are pretty damn loud by most standards, i think |
| 08:26.26 | Carepolice | Tewan Asus VH226H ; Asus VK246H ; BenQ E2200HD ; BenQ E2200HDA ; BenQ T2200HDA |
| 08:26.52 | Iriel | I wish my PC was as quiet as my mac |
| 08:26.56 | Iriel | since that's nearly silent |
| 08:26.56 | Carepolice | All 22" fullhd :P |
| 08:27.03 | Tewan | Carepolice, Samsung 2253BW ; Samsung 2253BW |
| 08:27.03 | Tewan | :P |
| 08:27.10 | Corrodias | then again, i exclusively use headphones for my audio |
| 08:27.19 | Carepolice | :\ that's for you |
| 08:27.29 | Carepolice | I only have a Samsung 2032BW |
| 08:27.32 | Corrodias | i could see fan noise being more of a problem for speaker users |
| 08:27.34 | Tewan | ah. |
| 08:27.48 | Tewan | I only use Samsungs. >_> |
| 08:27.55 | Carepolice | samsung rules |
| 08:28.05 | Carepolice | Eizo > Samsung > Shit. |
| 08:30.36 | Carepolice | http://i35.tinypic.com/2zindr5.jpg <- |
| 08:30.53 | Carepolice | A bit old... but it could be enough :P |
| 08:31.28 | amro | do I want to know what's on the left screen? |
| 08:31.38 | Tewan | Nice mousepad. :D |
| 08:32.08 | Carepolice | lolz |
| 08:32.10 | Carepolice | pwnd :_ |
| 08:32.26 | Carepolice | Fatal1ty Pad |
| 08:32.31 | ZorbaTHut | carepolice, synergy is golden for controlling two computers with one mouse/keyboard |
| 08:32.41 | Tewan | Mine's a 5$ Fry's Electronics mouse pad |
| 08:32.44 | Tewan | and it works fine ;P |
| 08:33.10 | amro | mine is the tabletop |
| 08:33.14 | amro | and it works fine |
| 08:33.17 | Cidan | ZorbaTHut: I <3 you. Thank you for making QH not take up all the CPU time on load. |
| 08:33.21 | Carepolice | ZorbaTHut i tried... but i coulnt :\ i use ssh and vnc :P laptop has linux :P |
| 08:33.25 | Tewan | QH? |
| 08:33.30 | Tewan | oh, QuestHelper |
| 08:33.36 | Tewan | Yes? |
| 08:33.38 | Tewan | o_o |
| 08:33.40 | Cidan | lol |
| 08:33.42 | Cidan | yes, =D |
| 08:33.55 | ZorbaTHut | cidan, np :) I've been sort of fighting back and forth with the best way to handle it |
| 08:33.56 | Carepolice | QH rules |
| 08:34.06 | ZorbaTHut | the current approach is not ideal, but it's generally acceptable |
| 08:34.30 | Shirik | Anyone here good with apache? |
| 08:34.33 | Cidan | It does take slightly longer to load, but it's well worth it. |
| 08:34.39 | Tewan | my old setup: http://tewan.info/desk.jpg |
| 08:34.40 | Cidan | Shirik: Depends, what do you mean by good? D= |
| 08:34.53 | Carepolice | I am from spain, and here... a lot of people uses Carbonite, they say its better than QH, i love QH |
| 08:34.54 | Shirik | I'm trying to get mod_proxy to work, but it seems like the module isn't even installed |
| 08:35.09 | Shirik | I use any commands for it and apache just spits errors at me about how it doesn't know what the command is |
| 08:35.11 | Iriel | Tewan: is that a 21" dell branded trinitron? |
| 08:35.16 | Tewan | 22" |
| 08:35.17 | Tewan | :D |
| 08:35.19 | Carepolice | Anyway... most people play wow in spanish -_-U |
| 08:35.29 | Cidan | Shirik: apache2? |
| 08:35.32 | Shirik | yes |
| 08:35.32 | Tewan | Wait, it might've been a 21. |
| 08:35.36 | Tewan | I think it's a 22" though. |
| 08:35.44 | Carepolice | I love that G15 Tewan :D |
| 08:35.45 | Iriel | It looks almost identical to one I have in my shed |
| 08:35.48 | Cidan | ls /etc/apache2/mods-available |
| 08:35.52 | ZorbaTHut | carepolice, what do they prefer about carbonite, out of curiosity? |
| 08:35.57 | Tewan | Iriel, I lurv them :O |
| 08:36.17 | Carepolice | ZorbaTHut no reason just "it's better" or "is the best" no reasons... |
| 08:36.25 | Tewan | Carepolice: Blue G15 > Orange G15 |
| 08:36.27 | Tewan | :D |
| 08:36.29 | ZorbaTHut | well, not much I can do about that then :) |
| 08:36.34 | Carepolice | Tewan 400% agree |
| 08:36.35 | Shirik | no such directory, Cidan |
| 08:36.40 | Cidan | wtf |
| 08:36.43 | Iriel | Agreed, except my blue G15 died, and Best Buy only had the orange |
| 08:36.44 | Cidan | are you sure apache2 |
| 08:36.44 | Cidan | ? |
| 08:36.52 | Iriel | Much QQ |
| 08:37.03 | Tewan | D:! |
| 08:37.10 | Shirik | Unless bash is lying to me, Cidan |
| 08:37.12 | Shirik | li23-154 apache2 # pwd |
| 08:37.12 | Shirik | /etc/apache2 |
| 08:37.17 | Tewan | Ah, my previous desk arrangement: http://tewan.info/mydesk.jpg |
| 08:37.27 | Cidan | what's in /etc/apache2? |
| 08:37.35 | Shirik | httpd.conf index.html jira-mod_proxy jk-workers.properties magic modules.d sites-available ssl vhosts.d |
| 08:37.38 | Carepolice | porn! :P |
| 08:37.45 | Tewan | Carepolice, lol |
| 08:37.47 | Cidan | ew |
| 08:37.55 | Cidan | your host is ftl |
| 08:38.02 | Carepolice | Tewan what's that SHARP 'monitor'? |
| 08:38.06 | Shirik | I can do whatever I want with it, it's just how gentoo set it up |
| 08:38.06 | Cidan | check modules.d |
| 08:38.13 | Tewan | A POS. |
| 08:38.16 | Tewan | It's a TV |
| 08:38.20 | Cidan | oh, that explains it, gentoo, :P |
| 08:38.25 | Shirik | only conf files in there |
| 08:38.43 | Shirik | Carepolice: |
| 08:38.45 | Shirik | just use ~wtf |
| 08:38.48 | Tewan | I rid myself of my Dell monitor: http://tewan.info/panoramadesk.jpg |
| 08:38.49 | Carepolice | :O |
| 08:38.51 | Tewan | T_T |
| 08:38.54 | Shirik | ~wtf pos |
| 08:38.58 | Carepolice | lolz |
| 08:39.06 | Carepolice | <- pwnd |
| 08:39.11 | Tewan | <-- agrees |
| 08:39.15 | Iriel | sleep time |
| 08:39.23 | Thunder_Child | ~bed Iriel |
| 08:39.24 | purl | ACTION tucks Iriel into a warm bed. |
| 08:39.25 | Carepolice | Noooo! :( |
| 08:39.32 | Tewan | My current desk is so messy |
| 08:39.32 | Shirik | you do raise a good point, though, Cidan |
| 08:39.33 | Tewan | lol |
| 08:39.34 | Cidan | Shirik: find /etc/apache2 | grep mod_ |
| 08:39.35 | Carepolice | just 9:39AM on spain |
| 08:39.36 | Tewan | want pix? |
| 08:39.37 | Shirik | because this is the line in my httpd.conf: |
| 08:39.47 | Carepolice | i want pics. |
| 08:39.52 | Tewan | fine, pix it is |
| 08:39.53 | Shirik | LoadModule proxy_module modules/mod_proxy.so |
| 08:39.59 | Shirik | And if there is no modules directory, then wtf is it doing |
| 08:40.04 | Cidan | lol |
| 08:40.05 | Carepolice | Pic or it didn't happen. |
| 08:40.13 | Cidan | gentoo might store it in a different location |
| 08:40.22 | Cidan | find / | grep mod_proxy.so |
| 08:40.48 | Shirik | found at /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_proxy.so |
| 08:41.23 | Cidan | did you load the http proxy module as well? |
| 08:41.27 | Shirik | yup |
| 08:41.29 | Cidan | you have to load mod_proxy and THEN http |
| 08:41.33 | Shirik | yup |
| 08:41.42 | Cidan | How do you know it's not loaded? |
| 08:43.23 | Shirik | I think I just fixed it |
| 08:43.31 | Carepolice | Tewan why you always have a drink over the table? lolz :P |
| 08:43.49 | Cidan | lulz? |
| 08:43.55 | Shirik | Gentoo autoconfigures httpd.conf to load these modules, but for some reason it wrapped it with <IfDefined PROXY> tags |
| 08:43.59 | Shirik | without actually defining that |
| 08:44.06 | Shirik | so I just commented those out |
| 08:44.50 | Tewan | Carepolice, http://tewan.info/messycurrentdesk.jpg |
| 08:45.26 | Tewan | also, http://tewan.info/fp.html |
| 08:45.31 | Carepolice | lol |
| 08:45.43 | Carepolice | well, i have 9 empty bottles here |
| 08:45.57 | Shirik | damn it |
| 08:45.59 | Fisker- | jnwhiteh |
| 08:46.00 | Fisker- | get him! |
| 08:46.01 | Shirik | now I have to wait for DNS servers to update |
| 08:46.02 | Cidan | l2debian |
| 08:46.13 | Cidan | should only take a few hours |
| 08:46.16 | Shirik | I wish I were back on dyndns, they actually listened to notifies :( |
| 08:46.21 | Shirik | dyndns updated in seconds |
| 08:46.27 | Cidan | <3 dyndns |
| 08:46.55 | Shirik | *** ns2.dc.cox.net can't find jira.shiibot.com: Non-existent domain |
| 08:46.56 | Shirik | YA FU |
| 08:47.01 | Shirik | try harder |
| 08:47.17 | Tewan | lol |
| 08:47.20 | Tewan | cox.net |
| 08:47.38 | Shirik | oh wait |
| 08:47.41 | Thunder_Child | speaking of shiibot...wtf Shirik |
| 08:47.48 | Shirik | * Starting named ... [ !! ] |
| 08:47.51 | Shirik | I should have paid more attention |
| 08:47.52 | Shirik | dododo |
| 08:48.08 | Shirik | yeah Thunder_Child I restarted the server today a few times, forgot to start him back up |
| 08:48.10 | Shirik | thanks for reminding |
| 08:48.26 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, it doesnt auto start? |
| 08:48.27 | *** join/#wowuidev Shiibot (n=Shiibot@WoWUIDev/Nospam) |
| 08:48.27 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shiibot] by ChanServ |
| 08:48.34 | Shirik | nah I was too lazy to write an init script for him |
| 08:48.59 | Thunder_Child | so remembering each time you restart is easier? |
| 08:49.08 | Tewan | lol |
| 08:49.09 | Shirik | I rarely restart |
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| 08:49.34 | Cidan | Shirik: Come to the dark side. |
| 08:49.38 | Cidan | Shirik: Install Debian. |
| 08:49.44 | Shirik | no f that |
| 08:49.50 | Shirik | WTF |
| 08:49.55 | Shirik | * Starting named ... [ ok ] |
| 08:50.00 | Shirik | I didn't even change anything except look at the logs |
| 08:50.02 | Shirik | what is that |
| 08:51.32 | Cidan | debian, imo |
| 08:51.42 | Shirik | I used to use ubuntu |
| 08:51.48 | Tewan | freebsd imo |
| 08:52.05 | Shirik | I use QNX from time to time |
| 08:52.07 | Thunder_Child | i prefer RH or FC |
| 08:52.07 | Shirik | but only on my robot |
| 08:52.26 | Shirik | and I think I just broke something |
| 08:52.56 | Shirik | !quote PRIVMSG #wowuidev :Hi! |
| 08:52.56 | Shiibot | Hi! |
| 08:52.56 | batbot | Shirik, privmsg has not said anything with your given pattern. |
| 08:53.03 | Shirik | Or my ssh connection just died |
| 08:53.04 | Shirik | ok then |
| 08:53.14 | Thunder_Child | lol |
| 08:55.53 | Shirik | for real though I think I need to give my server a little boost |
| 08:55.57 | Shirik | it's not happy lately |
| 08:56.03 | Shirik | it's doing way too many things |
| 08:56.04 | Shirik | I blame Java |
| 08:56.53 | Cidan | I blame Java for everything |
| 08:57.03 | Shirik | Swap: 524280k total, 524072k used, 208k free, 25476k cached |
| 08:57.24 | mikma | !quote shirik lol |
| 08:57.24 | batbot | mikma, shirik has not said anything with your given pattern. |
| 08:57.30 | mikma | bad shirik! |
| 08:57.37 | Shirik | now take a look at my top window, sorted by memory usage |
| 08:57.59 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/105320 |
| 08:58.11 | Shirik | Nice to see that java only accounts for OVER 60% OF THE MEMORY USAGE |
| 08:59.10 | Cidan | use htop |
| 08:59.11 | Cidan | =D |
| 08:59.21 | Shirik | bash: htop: command not found |
| 08:59.22 | Tewan | java fails |
| 08:59.30 | Cidan | install it |
| 08:59.34 | Cidan | just do apt-get install htop |
| 08:59.35 | Cidan | OH WAIT |
| 08:59.37 | Cidan | YOU CAN'T |
| 08:59.39 | Cidan | lololol |
| 08:59.41 | Shirik | nah, too many letters |
| 08:59.44 | Shirik | emerge htop |
| 08:59.51 | Cidan | that too, :P |
| 09:00.14 | Shirik | so what am I installing? |
| 09:00.17 | Cidan | asdlqajpdwj, GDMF rogue is taking my herbalism nodes |
| 09:00.19 | Cidan | you'll see |
| 09:01.41 | Tewan | Cidan, this damn shaman took one of mine when I was lagging extremely bad |
| 09:01.47 | Tewan | 3 second delay between press/cast |
| 09:01.54 | Tewan | I still managed to kill it >:l |
| 09:01.57 | Cidan | lol |
| 09:02.04 | Cidan | I prefer not to PvP |
| 09:02.07 | Cidan | I mean, while I'm farming |
| 09:02.10 | Shirik | * QA Notice: Package has poor programming practices which may compile |
| 09:02.11 | Shirik | * fine but exhibit random runtime failures. |
| 09:02.14 | Shirik | htop is bad! |
| 09:02.15 | Tewan | Then he/she got a damn paladin to come and kill me. |
| 09:02.21 | *** part/#wowuidev Pytlask (n=Pytlask@adsl-76-214-27-104.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net) |
| 09:02.21 | Cidan | wtf |
| 09:02.32 | Tewan | (I'm 71, she/he was 72, paladin was 78) |
| 09:02.38 | Shirik | It's just mad about |
| 09:02.39 | Shirik | * Meter.c:234: warning: implicit declaration of function 'mvadd_wchstr' |
| 09:02.39 | Shirik | * Panel.c:268: warning: implicit declaration of function 'mvadd_wchnstr' |
| 09:02.48 | Cidan | retarded |
| 09:02.57 | Shirik | seriously though, who does that these days |
| 09:03.01 | Cidan | though I hate it when people do that |
| 09:03.01 | Cidan | yeah |
| 09:03.13 | Shirik | holy shit |
| 09:03.14 | Shirik | colors |
| 09:03.16 | Cidan | lol |
| 09:03.17 | Cidan | =D |
| 09:03.22 | Tewan | lol |
| 09:03.32 | Shirik | I imagine that the memory bar and swap bar are full and red is bad |
| 09:03.40 | Cidan | Yes, yes it is. |
| 09:03.50 | Shirik | I know, I need to figure out what I'm going to do about my memory problem |
| 09:04.06 | Shirik | I could easily add some more space to the swap drive, but that's not really a good solution I think |
| 09:04.16 | Tewan | Alright, time to get an iced coffee to add to my desk |
| 09:04.17 | Tewan | :D |
| 09:04.19 | Tewan | AFK |
| 09:04.19 | Cidan | What's on there that is using Java? |
| 09:04.20 | Cidan | kk |
| 09:04.24 | Tewan | Way far AFK. |
| 09:04.27 | Shirik | jira, fisheye, confluence |
| 09:04.32 | Shirik | crucible |
| 09:04.42 | Shirik | I wanted bamboo and crowd too but they just died due to no memory errors |
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| 09:06.02 | Cidan | h8Jav |
| 09:06.03 | Cidan | a |
| 09:06.06 | Shirik | I know :( |
| 09:06.14 | Shirik | but my app is still gonna be in Java |
| 09:06.38 | Shirik | omg it responds to mouse too |
| 09:07.51 | Thunder_Child | which of the many apps are you refering to Shirik? |
| 09:08.01 | Shirik | about mouse? htop |
| 09:09.53 | *** join/#wowuidev Hey-WTF (n=burp@222-152-99-216.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 09:13.58 | Shirik | Well, I thought I was going to get stuff done tonight |
| 09:14.03 | Shirik | but I guess I'm just going to go to sleep |
| 09:19.26 | Fisker- | hai Shirik |
| 09:19.28 | Fisker- | wats up? |
| 09:19.51 | Shirik | hi |
| 09:19.54 | Shirik | not my head |
| 09:26.02 | Fisker- | :( |
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| 09:38.39 | Cidan | man |
| 09:38.41 | Cidan | I have got |
| 09:38.43 | Cidan | the munchies |
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| 09:40.15 | mikma | less weed duuuuuuuuude |
| 09:40.43 | |pez| | Ohoh, I've got to say Happy New Year! ... in advance. |
| 09:42.04 | Cidan | 2008 came and went so quickly |
| 09:42.49 | |pez| | I agree. |
| 09:45.33 | Tewan | Cidan, so did this iced coffee. |
| 09:45.34 | Tewan | QQ |
| 09:45.47 | Tewan | also, http://tewan.info/rr.html |
| 09:45.49 | leethal | ♫ curseforge is down, down, down ♪ |
| 09:45.52 | *** join/#wowuidev Saeris (n=Miranda@dsl-251-36.dynamic-dsl.frii.net) |
| 09:46.44 | leethal | which is totally ♿! |
| 09:47.27 | Tewan | wtf is [a^][trademark][upsidedownquestionmark]? |
| 09:47.51 | leethal | encoding ftl =/ |
| 09:47.56 | Tewan | indeed |
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| 09:48.44 | mikma | fagile minds watch out (shirik, nsfs!) http://www.break.com/index/five-sexiest-dance-moves-of-2008.html |
| 09:48.57 | Tewan | nsfs? school? |
| 09:49.05 | mikma | ~nsfs |
| 09:49.06 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, nsfs is not safe for shirik |
| 09:49.12 | Tewan | oh |
| 09:49.18 | Tewan | and oh my lord |
| 09:49.20 | Tewan | that is horrible |
| 09:49.34 | Tewan | it's all kinds of bad fapping |
| 09:53.06 | tekkub | I think we need to change that to not safe for prudes |
| 09:53.11 | |pez| | That was a rather large girl. |
| 09:53.21 | |pez| | Who didn't seem to be too embarresed about herself. |
| 09:53.24 | |pez| | Go her! |
| 09:53.34 | mikma | another nsfs + fragile mind warning! http://skoften.net/index/gallery/mcdonalds_kalender_2009 |
| 09:53.52 | Tewan | |pez|, embarrassed |
| 09:53.52 | Tewan | :P |
| 09:54.05 | |pez| | ;__; |
| 09:54.07 | |pez| | it was almost! |
| 09:54.08 | squidbear | Do you ever use curly brackets while coding in lua when it gets late at night? >_> |
| 09:54.09 | mikma | UAAAAUAAAAUAAAAA |
| 09:54.15 | Tewan | Indeed. :D |
| 09:54.18 | squidbear | function() { } |
| 09:54.19 | mikma | GRAMMARPOLICE! HALT! |
| 09:54.28 | Tewan | HALT! GRAMMAR TIME! |
| 09:54.33 | tekkub | local sometable = {1,2,3,4} |
| 09:54.37 | tekkub | all the fucking time |
| 09:54.41 | mikma | can't touch this |
| 09:55.05 | |pez| | I iz not englizh, mmkay? >__> |
| 09:55.16 | mikma | |pez|: scheisse |
| 09:55.22 | Tewan | |pez|, then what are you? >:l |
| 09:55.29 | |pez| | Norwegian! |
| 09:55.38 | Tewan | o_o |
| 09:55.39 | mikma | tursk! |
| 09:55.46 | Tewan | |pez|, come to my server. |
| 09:55.54 | Tewan | Slap some Brazillians for me, please. |
| 09:55.56 | |pez| | Don't wanna, I'm happy on my server. |
| 09:56.05 | tekkub | damn foreigners always come out at night |
| 09:56.05 | Tewan | Then slap the rest of my population for not know English. |
| 09:56.11 | tekkub | we need more russian bears |
| 09:56.20 | |pez| | "for not know English"? :P |
| 09:56.23 | Tewan | Yes. |
| 09:56.30 | Tewan | Not know English. |
| 09:56.30 | Tewan | :D |
| 09:56.48 | Tewan | Sadly I found that too after I typed it. |
| 09:56.54 | Tewan | I was in the process of correcting it. ._. |
| 09:57.10 | mikma | lololo |
| 09:57.14 | mikma | grammared! |
| 09:57.24 | tekkub | mikma, was it you bugging me to make the standalone Auc CompactUI? |
| 09:57.36 | mikma | tekkub: nope |
| 09:57.43 | tekkub | who the hell was it then |
| 09:57.53 | Tewan | Me. |
| 09:57.54 | |pez| | and, how would I be able to slap Brazillians. Don't they play on the US servers? |
| 09:58.11 | tekkub | I don't even know who you are |
| 09:58.12 | Tewan | tekkub, do it. :3 |
| 09:58.21 | mikma | pollo pollo jajaajjajaja |
| 09:59.15 | tekkub | anywho, I make unconsiousness now |
| 09:59.21 | |pez| | Anywaaay |
| 09:59.26 | |pez| | I got to take a shower. |
| 09:59.35 | Tewan | pix or it didn't happen, |pez| |
| 09:59.41 | mikma | tekkub: uh that reminds me of the song |
| 09:59.48 | |pez| | then get the turkey into the car, and drive to the middle of nowhere... And celebrate newyears with my folks. |
| 09:59.57 | Tewan | x.x |
| 09:59.58 | mikma | higher state of consiousness |
| 10:00.00 | Tewan | Have fun with that. |
| 10:00.08 | |pez| | Tewan: Then I guess it didn't happen. |
| 10:00.14 | Tewan | Darn. |
| 10:00.29 | |pez| | I've got pictures where I'm fully clothed though. |
| 10:00.33 | |pez| | and making faces. |
| 10:00.53 | Tewan | I wonder why my CPU usage is at 54%... o_o |
| 10:01.08 | Tewan | Oh, Photoshit |
| 10:02.41 | |pez| | Here, have a picture of me - http://cuddlebutt.com/wp-content/gallery/kenya/Kenya%20320.jpg XD |
| 10:03.14 | Tewan | |pez|, you look like someone I used to work with. |
| 10:03.16 | |pez| | I have since learned that sunscreen is good. |
| 10:03.23 | Tewan | Indeed. |
| 10:03.46 | Tewan | I like your eyes. :o |
| 10:04.08 | |pez| | Ok, I didn't like the fullview version of that image ;__; |
| 10:04.15 | |pez| | I can see all the hair in my face! |
| 10:04.16 | leethal | I accidentally the room |
| 10:04.17 | Cidan | lol |
| 10:04.26 | Cidan | leethal: accidentally what? |
| 10:04.31 | leethal | the room |
| 10:04.34 | leethal | doh! |
| 10:04.37 | Cidan | lol |
| 10:04.38 | Cidan | =D |
| 10:05.04 | Fisker- | Find jnwhiteh and destroy him |
| 10:05.17 | Tewan | o_o |
| 10:05.24 | leethal | http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/2/2d/AccidentallyEconomy.jpg |
| 10:05.43 | Fisker- | i saw what they did there leethal |
| 10:06.15 | leethal | mentlegen |
| 10:06.38 | Tewan | Fisker-: http://tewan.info/?n=icwatudidthar |
| 10:06.44 | Tewan | i c wat u did thar. |
| 10:07.33 | |pez| | Also, have some more pictures of my face! - http://cuddlebutt.com/2008/06/23/mandag-morgen/ |
| 10:08.09 | Tewan | Having fun? :P |
| 10:08.15 | Cidan | seriously |
| 10:08.15 | |pez| | According to the boyfriend, those faces are quite normal on me. |
| 10:08.22 | Tewan | Lol. |
| 10:08.49 | |pez| | It was early monday morning though, after a night without sleep. |
| 10:09.01 | Cidan | you said the b word |
| 10:09.06 | Cidan | now no one will give you attention |
| 10:09.14 | |pez| | Awwh |
| 10:09.16 | |pez| | boyfriend? |
| 10:09.32 | Cidan | yup |
| 10:09.36 | |pez| | Awwh XD |
| 10:10.18 | |pez| | I'll go take a shower with said boyfriend now. He's threatening to tickle me, and is pulling my hair. ;__; |
| 10:10.55 | Tewan | You know, I should probably learn my chemical symbols. |
| 10:10.56 | Tewan | x.x |
| 10:11.04 | Tewan | |pez|, I still say pix. |
| 10:11.05 | Tewan | D: |
| 10:11.15 | mikma | tewan: chemical symbols........ |
| 10:11.25 | mikma | tewan: NO MEANS NO! |
| 10:11.33 | Tewan | mikma, not always D: |
| 10:11.51 | Tewan | and yes, chemical symbols... (H: Hydrogen, He: Helium, etc.) |
| 10:11.53 | |pez| | When I say no, it sometimes means "I like it, do it more" >__> |
| 10:12.05 | Tewan | |pez|, so pix? :D |
| 10:12.10 | mikma | ahahaha |
| 10:12.13 | |pez| | No. :) |
| 10:12.16 | Tewan | D: |
| 10:12.30 | mikma | apparently you are up for buttsecks then |pez| |
| 10:12.38 | |pez| | mikma: sometimes. |
| 10:12.38 | Tewan | mikma, lmao |
| 10:13.19 | Cidan | You mean elements? |
| 10:13.38 | Tewan | Cidan, not exactly, the symbols that represent elements. |
| 10:14.20 | mikma | well good thing my pictures are hard to find |
| 10:15.15 | Tewan | mikma, pix or said statement is false. |
| 10:15.16 | Tewan | :P |
| 10:15.29 | mikma | tewan: http://www.ii2.org/user.php?nick=Mikma |
| 10:15.59 | Tewan | mikma, you scared me. |
| 10:15.59 | Tewan | o_o |
| 10:16.07 | mikma | i forgot that picture exists. |
| 10:16.10 | Tewan | lol |
| 10:16.14 | mikma | damn amazing |
| 10:16.38 | mikma | got aome uv-paint on my chest too lol |
| 10:17.24 | mikma | http:://irc.fi. go find yourself |
| 10:17.43 | Corrodias | reading about sex in games, "Fable - the encounters are presented with the screen going black and your sex partner saying some humorous things and moaning in a cockney accent. "You're so norty!" " |
| 10:18.16 | Corrodias | imagining a voice saying that line makes my intestines tingle with displeasure |
| 10:20.02 | Tewan | o.o |
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| 10:26.15 | mikma | haha |
| 10:26.17 | mikma | http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=14244 |
| 10:26.36 | mikma | i remember when i had a conversation with tek about that |
| 10:27.13 | mikma | i told him ima gonna post lolcat for him, and someone said "put the seriouscat" |
| 10:27.35 | Tewan | heh |
| 10:32.52 | Industrial | :p |
| 10:33.37 | Cidan | meh |
| 10:33.40 | Cidan | I need to level a druid |
| 10:34.31 | Industrial | yes you do |
| 10:34.35 | Industrial | stv is mega fun |
| 10:34.43 | Industrial | :P |
| 10:34.49 | Industrial | guess rogue works there |
| 10:35.05 | Tewan | Cidan, NE or Tauren? |
| 10:36.00 | Cidan | NE |
| 10:36.09 | mikma | http://www.worldofwar.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-374381.html |
| 10:36.12 | mikma | haha |
| 10:36.17 | Tewan | :( |
| 10:36.22 | mikma | me and tuplad... dempsey and makepeace |
| 10:36.29 | Tewan | I want a NE dr00d |
| 10:36.34 | Tewan | I hate being a tauren. |
| 10:36.36 | Cidan | I need one for farming |
| 10:36.42 | Tewan | Cat form = ugly, moonkin form = ugly |
| 10:36.47 | Tewan | Racial = suck against the NE's |
| 10:37.08 | mikma | ne racial |
| 10:37.31 | Tewan | Suck it. |
| 10:37.34 | sacarasc | :o |
| 10:37.45 | mikma | its really that good |
| 10:38.14 | krka | |pez|: vilken söt norska :) |
| 10:38.16 | Industrial | mikma: tuplad i remember that name |
| 10:38.23 | Industrial | someone i know :S? |
| 10:38.28 | Tewan | ugh |
| 10:38.32 | Tewan | I think I'm gonna roll a NE druid |
| 10:38.37 | mikma | industrial: russian dude that got banned |
| 10:38.38 | Tewan | What's a good alliance realm? PVP |
| 10:38.42 | Industrial | hm right |
| 10:38.53 | Industrial | Tewan:EU? Vashj :E? |
| 10:39.00 | Tewan | US. |
| 10:39.01 | Tewan | D: |
| 10:39.05 | Industrial | phaiL! |
| 10:39.13 | Industrial | my battlegroup is prety fun |
| 10:39.36 | Industrial | horde steamrolls alliance in av :P |
| 10:39.45 | Industrial | (I play alliance) |
| 10:40.01 | Industrial | so I actually have to try |
| 10:41.17 | mikma | tewan: you have experience from night elfs? |
| 10:42.02 | Tewan | mikma, what you mean? |
| 10:42.07 | Tewan | As in, have I played one before? |
| 10:42.54 | mikma | ya |
| 10:42.58 | Cidan | How do you select an argument from ... again? |
| 10:42.58 | mikma | after 3.0 |
| 10:43.16 | mikma | local arg1,arg2 = ... |
| 10:43.33 | krka | local argumentN = select(n, ...) |
| 10:43.34 | Tewan | mikma, only to like level 10 post-3.0 |
| 10:43.39 | Tewan | Why? |
| 10:43.54 | mikma | tewan: because they fooking rule in 3.0 |
| 10:43.58 | Cidan | krka: thanks |
| 10:44.04 | mikma | shadowmeld is basicly vanish now |
| 10:44.07 | Tewan | mikma: You're just making it worse. |
| 10:44.14 | Tewan | I already know this. |
| 10:44.15 | mikma | you can use it in combat! |
| 10:44.28 | Tewan | Quiet. |
| 10:44.29 | Tewan | >:l |
| 10:44.51 | Tewan | I need a good alliance realm to pewpew on. (US) |
| 10:44.53 | mikma | best use: you are about to get ganked, run, shadowmeld, birdie bird... |
| 10:44.54 | Tewan | PVP too. |
| 10:44.58 | mikma | buhbyeeee |
| 10:45.03 | Tewan | mikma, Yeah, it's lame |
| 10:45.09 | Tewan | Tauren druids are lame. |
| 10:45.28 | mikma | i use that same while grinding veins and herbs |
| 10:45.35 | Tewan | God damnit. |
| 10:45.44 | Tewan | mikma, see: http://blog.tewan.info/?p=46 |
| 10:45.52 | krka | Cidan: if possible, and not too inconvenient, i recommend against using select though |
| 10:45.58 | Tewan | "Another scenario is if theyÂ’re farming mining nodes. . . they go down to mine and you happen to aggro something on the last loot. Oh well, you can just pop Shadowmeld and fly off, without having to fight; especially helpful if itÂ’s an elite you aggro." |
| 10:46.02 | mikma | usually if i am lazy i do it too =) just run in cave or so, pull everyone with you, shadowmeld. |
| 10:46.35 | krka | if you know which order the argument is in, it's better to do local _, _, _, _, myArg = ... |
| 10:46.56 | Cidan | oh? |
| 10:47.05 | Cidan | okay, I'll do that, since I do know the order |
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| 10:47.08 | mikma | my wife also uses shadowmeld in instances to rest,, or to ress people with normal ress |
| 10:48.01 | Tewan | my god, this is old |
| 10:48.02 | Tewan | http://tewan.info/interfacehunt2.jpg |
| 10:49.50 | Tewan | If the new patch finally gets released, I can just powerlevel myself on a new realm. |
| 10:49.52 | Industrial | Tewan: druids should go herb not mine :P |
| 10:50.01 | Tewan | Industrial, my druid does both. |
| 10:50.17 | Cidan | That's what I want to do |
| 10:50.23 | Cidan | mine and herb on druid |
| 10:50.24 | nevcairiel | i have herbing on my druid and mining on my DK; both NE obviously |
| 10:50.39 | Tewan | I figured "Hell, I'm a tauren, I already get a 5% health bonus, why not get more via mining?" |
| 10:51.05 | Tewan | So I'm an awesome tank now. |
| 10:51.14 | Tewan | Regardless of being boomy. |
| 10:51.21 | mikma | my druid got mining and herbalism |
| 10:51.29 | mikma | with bugged tracking! |
| 10:51.43 | mikma | means, i can grack both at the same time. |
| 10:51.50 | Tewan | mikma, how? |
| 10:51.51 | Tewan | o_o |
| 10:51.55 | Tewan | http://gallery.tewan.info/main.php?g2_itemId=141 |
| 10:52.15 | mikma | switch one tracking on, migrate, switch another on and voila! |
| 10:52.23 | Tewan | migrate? |
| 10:52.24 | Tewan | >_> |
| 10:52.36 | nevcairiel | dont all trackings turn off when you die? |
| 10:52.48 | mikma | not with pve death |
| 10:53.09 | Tewan | Not on PVP death either. |
| 10:53.22 | Tewan | As far as I know, that is. |
| 10:53.24 | nevcairiel | I'm pretty sure i had mine turn off for some reason |
| 10:53.29 | mikma | last time i got it turned off in the zomvpbie event |
| 10:53.34 | mikma | that sucked |
| 10:53.44 | mikma | +tpyos |
| 10:54.24 | Tewan | Zombie event was lame. |
| 10:54.25 | mikma | after the last migrate it has been stahying on, even after deaths |
| 10:54.31 | Cidan | woot, perfect, <3 securehook |
| 10:54.35 | mikma | oh dear lord |
| 10:54.50 | mikma | why wont you rant about the zombie event now, too |
| 10:55.01 | Tewan | mikma, what do you mean migrate? >< |
| 10:55.24 | mikma | pay money to move char to another sever |
| 10:55.31 | Tewan | thought so |
| 10:55.31 | Tewan | lame |
| 10:57.14 | Tewan | Hmm, Archimonde or Stonemaul... |
| 10:57.22 | Tewan | or Illidan. x.x |
| 10:58.01 | mikma | oh i know |
| 10:58.05 | Tewan | I already have a level 4 druid on Illidan |
| 10:58.06 | Tewan | Sooooooooo~ |
| 10:58.12 | mikma | go and create a horde in proudmoore |
| 10:58.23 | Tewan | No, I'm not creating any more horde. |
| 10:58.30 | mikma | then /w snuusnu you suck balls, wishes: mikma |
| 10:58.39 | Tewan | Lol, why? |
| 10:58.51 | mikma | its wobin's dk |
| 10:59.20 | Tewan | Oh, wait. |
| 10:59.20 | Tewan | o_o |
| 10:59.28 | Tewan | No way, I think I have a 21 dr00d on Mannorath. |
| 11:00.14 | Tewan | Darn. |
| 11:00.19 | Tewan | I was close. D: |
| 11:00.20 | Tewan | 22! |
| 11:00.35 | Tewan | Yay. |
| 11:00.41 | |pez| | Happy New Year folks! |
| 11:00.45 | mikma | pick a server that has great amount of alliance |
| 11:00.57 | Tewan | |pez|, aww, you came back for pix? :D |
| 11:01.05 | |pez| | Tewan: No ^^ |
| 11:01.11 | Tewan | :( |
| 11:01.17 | Tewan | You disappoint me, |pez|. |
| 11:01.19 | mikma | remember..... |
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| 11:01.32 | |pez| | Bye! Have a great time today, and hope your country isn't stupid like Norway, and doesn't allow normal fireworks anymore. :P |
| 11:01.41 | Tewan | |pez|, lol |
| 11:01.43 | mikma | <1211> <|pez|> When I say no, it sometimes means "I like it, do it more" >__> |
| 11:01.50 | Tewan | True. |
| 11:01.53 | Tewan | |pez|, PIX! |
| 11:01.58 | |pez| | mikma: "sometimes" being the operative word there ;D |
| 11:02.09 | Cidan | lol |
| 11:02.21 | mikma | hmm yeah |
| 11:02.39 | Tewan | But.. |
| 11:02.39 | mikma | all countries are prohibiting good fireworks |
| 11:02.43 | Tewan | She had the "^^" face. |
| 11:02.43 | Tewan | :O |
| 11:03.00 | mikma | OMG THE KEKE FACE |
| 11:04.17 | mikma | ~lederhosen |
| 11:04.18 | purl | rumour has it, lederhosen is lyn, scheisse, lederhosen! SCHIMANSKI! |
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| 11:04.30 | mikma | ~tryme |
| 11:04.31 | purl | ACTION spins the revolver, points it at mikma and fires. Click. |
| 11:04.35 | Tewan | ~tewan |
| 11:04.36 | purl | it has been said that tewan is kwazy |
| 11:04.58 | Tewan | Wow. |
| 11:05.00 | Tewan | I'm stupid. |
| 11:05.13 | Tewan | I ran to the boat to go to Darnassus instead of flying. |
| 11:05.14 | Tewan | -_- |
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| 11:35.59 | Tewan | hmm |
| 11:36.54 | Tewan | My 22 druid has 666 HP. :O |
| 11:42.25 | Cidan | He's going to hell |
| 11:42.26 | Cidan | D= |
| 11:42.35 | Tewan | She* |
| 11:43.24 | Tewan | Hmm. |
| 11:43.29 | Tewan | Level 22, balance or feral? |
| 11:43.53 | Cidan | no clue |
| 11:43.53 | Cidan | feral I guess |
| 11:43.57 | Tewan | Hmm. |
| 11:44.13 | Tewan | I think I'll go balance regardless of your suggestion. |
| 11:44.14 | Tewan | :P |
| 11:44.54 | Cidan | Never played a druid, but, I imagine feral would be easier to level |
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| 12:02.01 | Cidan | yay |
| 12:02.07 | Cidan | new years stuff has spawned |
| 12:04.49 | ZorbaTHut | from what I've heard, feral is better until moonkin |
| 12:05.03 | ZorbaTHut | I switched to balance when entering outland |
| 12:05.19 | Tewan | ZorbaTHut, yeah, but all my gear is currently balance |
| 12:05.26 | Tewan | So I might aswell stay it for another 18 levels. |
| 12:05.42 | Tewan | Also considering I've played balance moreso than feral, so I know it better. |
| 12:05.54 | Tewan | Not that there's much to figure out about it :P |
| 12:06.35 | Tewan | I lurv Opeth. |
| 12:07.13 | Cidan | There, window animations done |
| 12:07.25 | Cidan | now to finish the OS X like zoom/dock menu code |
| 12:07.49 | Tewan | Cidan? |
| 12:07.52 | Cidan | Yes? |
| 12:07.58 | Tewan | What're you doin'? :O |
| 12:08.09 | Cidan | Working on the next release of OpenRDX |
| 12:08.24 | Cidan | Trying to make it more user friendly and pretty |
| 12:09.02 | Tewan | ah |
| 12:09.41 | Tewan | Sounds nifty. |
| 12:09.42 | Tewan | :O |
| 12:09.42 | Cidan | we're doing away with the ugly default bar, we have a much better one in place, and users will be able to dock it to an edge, and it will function like the OS X dock |
| 12:09.58 | Tewan | I've not used it, but I was wanting to. >_> |
| 12:10.51 | Tewan | Woah. |
| 12:10.56 | Tewan | I'm looking at the video. |
| 12:11.04 | Cidan | Yuh |
| 12:11.11 | Cidan | RDX is insanely powerful. |
| 12:11.21 | Cidan | You can make/do anything, all in one UI, using the in game editor |
| 12:11.35 | Cidan | well, almost anything, but we're working on expanding it |
| 12:11.37 | Tewan | Cidan, are those UIs included by default? |
| 12:11.40 | Tewan | There's like 3 I love. |
| 12:11.41 | Tewan | o_o |
| 12:11.54 | Cidan | no, but you can get a bunch on wowi |
| 12:11.57 | Cidan | or our forums |
| 12:12.06 | Cidan | you can make your own and export them |
| 12:12.15 | Tewan | Awesome. |
| 12:12.21 | Tewan | I may have to revamp my UI again. |
| 12:12.22 | Tewan | :P |
| 12:12.23 | Cidan | or you can make your own and send them to people in your guild, all in game |
| 12:12.28 | Cidan | without them having to log |
| 12:12.42 | Cidan | well, guild/party |
| 12:12.53 | Tewan | What's the ETA for the next release? Or do the UI's you make continue to work on newer versions? |
| 12:13.31 | Tewan | Unlike some addons I know. -_- |
| 12:13.31 | Cidan | They continue to work on all new versions |
| 12:13.31 | Cidan | Unless we do some major change |
| 12:13.31 | Cidan | which we're not going to anytime soon |
| 12:13.41 | Tewan | I see. |
| 12:13.49 | Cidan | but our next release is in 2-3 weeks maybe. Depending on how much we can get done |
| 12:13.49 | Tewan | How's the resource usage? |
| 12:14.30 | Cidan | Depends; on a whole at first, it will take up a bit of memory, but RDX/VFL recycles -everything- |
| 12:14.37 | Cidan | everything is reused |
| 12:15.01 | Tewan | Well, relating to 33.82MB right now, is it more or less? |
| 12:15.08 | Cidan | Hm |
| 12:15.21 | Cidan | by it self, not that much, but it might bring that number up |
| 12:15.42 | Cidan | but at the same time, you will be disabling UF mods, etc. |
| 12:15.43 | Tewan | Well by the way I see it, I can rid quite a few of the major addons. |
| 12:15.46 | Cidan | right |
| 12:15.57 | Tewan | Bartender/Pitbull/pMinimap |
| 12:16.23 | Cidan | you might want to hold on to Bartender until next release; I'm actually in the middle of totally redoing action bars so they have more features |
| 12:16.23 | Tewan | Satrina/maybe IceHUD |
| 12:16.38 | Tewan | My Bartender is quite minimap |
| 12:16.40 | Tewan | minimal* |
| 12:16.46 | Cidan | Yeah, I added features in the last patch that lets you make HUD's with OpenRDX |
| 12:16.47 | Tewan | And I'm really hating the limited number of pages. |
| 12:18.02 | Cidan | Well, try it out, it's a bit complex at first so use the forums to help you. |
| 12:19.00 | Tewan | More complex than Discord? :P |
| 12:19.13 | Cidan | Hmmmmmmm |
| 12:19.22 | Cidan | no |
| 12:19.32 | Tewan | Then I shouldn't have many issues :P |
| 12:19.32 | Cidan | Discord == makes me cry |
| 12:19.53 | Cidan | Well it's more sophisticated, if that makes sense. |
| 12:20.08 | Tewan | there's more to do |
| 12:20.11 | Tewan | essentially |
| 12:20.40 | Cidan | Kinndaa |
| 12:20.54 | Tewan | I know what you mean :P |
| 12:21.16 | Tewan | Oh, anyone know a good world map replacement that actually facking works? |
| 12:21.19 | Cidan | When you first use it, you think, okay that's neat, but then when you get to thinking and start putting things together, you realize you can do things you would have never thought of before |
| 12:21.31 | Cidan | I don't have a problem with Cartographer. |
| 12:21.37 | Cidan | ckknight fixed it, for the most part. |
| 12:21.52 | Tewan | Recently? |
| 12:21.59 | Tewan | I tried it about 2 weeks ago and it nearly killed me. |
| 12:22.30 | Cidan | I've been using it for about a month |
| 12:22.32 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, I've had no trouble with cartographer for a while either |
| 12:22.33 | Cidan | and it has no issues |
| 12:22.51 | ZorbaTHut | I mean, originally, it melted badly, but now it seems fine :) |
| 12:22.56 | Cidan | Indeed |
| 12:22.59 | Tewan | Hmm. Maybe a map mod was conflicting with it or something. |
| 12:23.15 | Cidan | I wonder if he's going to work more on Cartographer 3 |
| 12:23.56 | Tewan | I'm debating what I should get for my Major Glyph slot (only have one currently), Glyph of Wrath or Glyph of Healing Touch... |
| 12:24.14 | Cidan | I'm horrible, I only have like, one glyph |
| 12:24.26 | ZorbaTHut | I generally take the philosophy that you should be trying to improve what your goal is |
| 12:24.26 | Tewan | x.x |
| 12:24.35 | ZorbaTHut | and when you're soloing, your goal tends to be "kill shit faster" |
| 12:24.56 | ZorbaTHut | thus I would suggest Wrath :) |
| 12:25.31 | ZorbaTHut | I finally picked up my last glyph, I'd been 80 for about two weeks with only 5 glyphs :( |
| 12:25.45 | Tewan | Note: Wrath reduces pushback |
| 12:26.08 | ZorbaTHut | Yup. That means stuff dies faster. |
| 12:26.14 | Tewan | Somewhat |
| 12:26.22 | Tewan | If they never get to you, then that's different. :P |
| 12:26.36 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, but I mean, you're 22. Are you really going to be entangling every single critter and keeping it entangled? :P |
| 12:26.51 | ZorbaTHut | 'cause whenever I tried doing that I ran into mana issues. Easier to just take a few hits sometimes. |
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| 12:27.10 | ZorbaTHut | and if you have Glyph of Wrath, it's *even easier* :D |
| 12:27.15 | Tewan | heh |
| 12:27.25 | Tewan | Hmm. |
| 12:28.03 | Tewan | 25 wrath casts before I run out of mana, no regen included. |
| 12:28.06 | ZorbaTHut | I do find it weird how different the power levels are for different class's glyphs, though |
| 12:28.47 | ZorbaTHut | I actually have trouble finding glyphs I want on my druid, whereas on my warrior I'd undergo huge quest lines for a seventh slot. even if it was a minor slot. |
| 12:29.16 | Tewan | heh |
| 12:29.26 | ZorbaTHut | (there is no *way* Glyph of Charge should be a minor, but I ain't complaining) |
| 12:29.58 | Tewan | ZorbaTHut, I actually wouldn't mind another glyph slot |
| 12:30.01 | Tewan | but I'm not 80 yet |
| 12:30.14 | Tewan | Currently I have wrath/healing touch, and would like insect swarm |
| 12:30.23 | Tewan | For minors I have trouble finding things though :P |
| 12:30.32 | ZorbaTHut | well, how much would you like another four? 'cause you're getting another four. ;) |
| 12:30.49 | Tewan | What you mean? |
| 12:31.20 | ZorbaTHut | I'm just saying that when you have one slot it can be hard to choose. when you have a full six, there's a lot of choice |
| 12:31.37 | ZorbaTHut | only on some classes there's just nothin' to fill 'em with |
| 12:31.45 | Tewan | Nonono, I have a 71 druid already. |
| 12:31.50 | ZorbaTHut | oh, okay |
| 12:31.54 | Tewan | I'm making an NE because NE>Tauren |
| 12:31.56 | Tewan | >_> |
| 12:31.57 | ZorbaTHut | I thought the 22 was your first |
| 12:32.01 | Tewan | No :P |
| 12:32.02 | ZorbaTHut | pfft, you're crazy. tauren > NE |
| 12:32.05 | ZorbaTHut | (mine is NE) |
| 12:32.10 | Tewan | Trade you |
| 12:32.11 | Tewan | lol |
| 12:32.22 | ZorbaTHut | if you can figure out how to give me an Alliance Tauren Druid, I'll do it in a second ;) |
| 12:32.26 | Tewan | I'll take Shadowmeld over War Stomp every day. |
| 12:32.31 | Tewan | every = any |
| 12:32.36 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, okay, shadowmeld is pretty cool |
| 12:32.43 | ZorbaTHut | I can't argue that. it made leveling as cat form absolutely divine |
| 12:32.49 | Tewan | Also |
| 12:32.50 | ZorbaTHut | but tauren are just cooler. |
| 12:32.59 | Tewan | The cat form/moonkin form is so much cooler on NE |
| 12:33.03 | Tewan | It looks more evil |
| 12:33.07 | Tewan | Taurens like "LOLHIPPY" |
| 12:33.23 | Tewan | ZorbaTHut, http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Warsong&n=Drathel |
| 12:34.14 | ZorbaTHut | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Shattered+Halls&n=eugenix haven't had a lot of time to put into him lately :( |
| 12:34.56 | Tewan | D: |
| 12:35.30 | Tewan | ZorbaTHut, Owlkin Frenzy is awesome for AoE 'ya know. |
| 12:35.48 | Tewan | Saves you a barkskin cooldown. |
| 12:36.23 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, it looked pretty night, but right now I'm heading for Intensity. I want that mana regen. |
| 12:36.36 | ZorbaTHut | I'm actually planning on respeccing resto once I hit 80, I really made him for healing |
| 12:36.38 | Tewan | :P |
| 12:36.44 | ZorbaTHut | *nice |
| 12:37.00 | Tewan | I'm respeccing pretty soon |
| 12:37.09 | Tewan | Get rid of Nature's Focus and getting Intensity. |
| 12:37.18 | Tewan | Wait, no, I wasn't doing that |
| 12:37.39 | Tewan | I was removing one point from that and putting it in Natural Shapeshifter for Master Shapeshifter. |
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| 13:01.19 | Pizik_afk | Happy new year to any aussies |
| 13:02.31 | Tewan | http://pastey.tewan.info/?c=zedfcjliRH4O8 |
| 13:02.37 | Tewan | Pizik_afk, aussies only? |
| 13:02.43 | Tewan | Screw you too. :( |
| 13:02.51 | Pizik_afk | hehe |
| 13:03.28 | Pizik_afk | well, new zealanders, and central pacific islands also ;o) |
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| 13:34.50 | ZorbaTHut | man I wish UI mods could cast Disenchant |
| 13:44.31 | haste | they can! if you click |
| 13:46.03 | ZorbaTHut | yes, it's the clicking part I wish to avoid :) |
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| 14:17.12 | matt1s | Is there a replacement for sanity inventory? |
| 14:17.18 | matt1s | I can't find Sanity anywhere |
| 14:21.45 | matt1s | Or, I'd like something with as smooth searching interface as Sanity provides |
| 14:22.32 | Cidan | eh? |
| 14:22.36 | Cidan | No idea what Sanity does, so |
| 14:22.44 | Cidan | I do use Bagnon though for my bags |
| 14:23.09 | matt1s | Sanity shows your items as a list which is searchable |
| 14:23.18 | matt1s | I'm using Baggins |
| 14:23.37 | matt1s | Which is great, until I need to find stuff across bank and person |
| 14:29.41 | Olorin | altoholic is great for alts |
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| 14:30.57 | Olorin | it provides searching for all alts including what their wearing, whats in their bags/guild banks skills rested xp etc... |
| 14:39.58 | matt1s | thanks, I'll check it out |
| 14:44.25 | foxlit | load average: 35.40, 13.08, |
| 14:44.31 | foxlit | I wonder :/ |
| 14:45.00 | Cidan | foxlit: JAVA! |
| 14:45.01 | Cidan | lol |
| 14:45.03 | haste | stop forking yourself foxlit ! |
| 14:45.14 | foxlit | apache, actually |
| 14:45.49 | foxlit | but I somehow don't think it's actually us |
| 14:46.10 | foxlit | VPS server looks like it just fell over, died, and rebooted |
| 14:46.43 | foxlit | Plus this looks like the crappy variant where resource limitations are not transparent -- so I can see the state for the entire server rather than just my chunk of it |
| 14:47.18 | foxlit | at least as far as the load/memusage is concerned. |
| 14:52.34 | foxlit | Heard about the mass Zune suicides? |
| 14:53.05 | cbreak | were they depressed about the iPod's continuing success? |
| 14:53.15 | cbreak | or that they can't play plays-for-sure stuff anymore? |
| 14:53.59 | foxlit | http://news.google.co.uk/news?ncl=1285892142 |
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| 14:58.49 | cbreak | very interesting. I wonder what they did :) |
| 15:08.53 | foxlit | Assuming I have two types of accounts: users and groups, and I represent those as distinct classes extending a common superclass |
| 15:09.43 | foxlit | unfortunately, I don't know whether the account is a user/group before I actually query data |
| 15:10.34 | foxlit | which makes instancing things messy :/ |
| 15:12.22 | foxlit | This is sorely missing a "now, become class X" construction |
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| 15:16.52 | foxlit | The silence is odd. Let's check something |
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| 15:17.10 | foxlit | In your LUA, ACEing your Conspiracy. |
| 15:17.14 | krka | foxlit: The name of the language is Lua, not LUA. :-P |
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| 15:58.01 | *** topic/#wowuidev is http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.0.x ToC: 30000 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Help sick kids! http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19741 | Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to everyone! | Congrats Krka on baby girl!!! |
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| 16:04.23 | Cidan | rofl |
| 16:04.28 | Cidan | foxlit: I lawl'd |
| 16:04.57 | foxlit | hurray! |
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| 16:34.35 | zenzelezz | when people send me whispers like "we need a tank for <...>?", I can't help but respond "Don't ask me, I don't know what you need" |
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| 17:46.30 | batrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:46.31 | batrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:46.37 | batrick | that's amusing |
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| 18:17.48 | Amarande | I hate Crocolisks in the City. :| |
| 18:21.46 | foxlit | I thought the drop rate was about the same as any other quest fish |
| 18:22.56 | Amarande | foxlit: it's more the travel issues |
| 18:23.05 | foxlit | portal->hearth->done |
| 18:23.14 | foxlit | Unless, of course, you have to go back to Dalaran. |
| 18:23.30 | Amarande | Yeah, I end up having to go back to Dalaran. |
| 18:23.55 | Amarande | also speaking of dalaran: no-fly zones FTL |
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| 18:49.31 | KanadiaN | is GetGuildInfo usable at event PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD? |
| 18:50.04 | Olorin | if its like the friends list no |
| 18:51.35 | Olorin | give it a try, if not maybee try GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE as the trigger |
| 18:53.57 | foxlit | $ ps -ax | grep httpd | wc -l |
| 18:53.57 | foxlit | "132" |
| 18:54.02 | foxlit | And yet it's so painfully slow :/ |
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| 19:02.42 | Shirik | ~weather kdca |
| 19:02.51 | Shirik | 48 MPH winds wtf |
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| 19:31.51 | Anaral | Shirik I believe it. Our recycling can (as large as our garbage can, the type that are picked up by machine) got nocked down this morn and it's full to the brim with all Christmas stuff |
| 19:32.12 | Shirik | I was just curious because I was seeing leaves outside my window at my height |
| 19:32.17 | Shirik | and I live on top of a hill on the second story |
| 19:32.25 | Shirik | so I was kinda like "wtf how did they get there" |
| 19:32.51 | Anaral | Heh, just nature's wind blower clearing the leaves off your roof. ;) |
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| 19:51.36 | Thunder_Child | WTB your winds Shirik |
| 19:51.41 | Shirik | why? |
| 19:52.33 | Thunder_Child | i like a good breeze |
| 19:52.49 | Thunder_Child | and i dont get enough here |
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| 19:56.51 | Shirik | rofl, atlassian is crazy |
| 19:57.00 | Shirik | "It will take 10 to 14 days to review your application" |
| 19:57.03 | Shirik | I submitted this 6 hours ago |
| 19:57.13 | Shirik | Thanks for your application. |
| 19:57.14 | Shirik | I have had a review of your application and website, everything is in order save for the url to download your source: |
| 19:57.19 | Shirik | so much for 10 to 14 days |
| 20:00.59 | Shirik | mpdelbuono@li23-154 ~ $ tar -zcvf ./mmoimgr-2.0.0-78 > ./mmoimgr-2.0.0-78.tar.gz |
| 20:00.59 | Shirik | tar: Cowardly refusing to create an empty archive |
| 20:01.01 | Shirik | What did I do wrong? |
| 20:01.44 | Shirik | nm, figured it out, drop the -f |
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| 20:06.27 | Amarande | naxxramas looks hardly big enough on the outside to be the whole instance it is ... heh |
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| 20:07.40 | kontroll | Well... even Hellfire Citadel and Utgarde Keep suffer a bit from that. :P |
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| 20:10.10 | hipjipp | evening people! =) |
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| 20:18.57 | hipjipp | does anyone have an effective way of changing the MainMenuBar into the vehicle-bar when in/on a vehicle? Do i have to break something into it's basic parts and re-assemble it again or can i just make a simple workaround? |
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| 20:26.00 | hipjipp | anyone? :'< |
| 20:26.57 | foxlit | # There's life outside your apartment... Well, I guess I'll give it a shot *bang* |
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| 20:27.52 | hipjipp | nice foxlit =) |
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| 21:26.02 | Amarande | hmm |
| 21:26.05 | Amarande | words of warning |
| 21:26.14 | Amarande | do not attempt to enter Naxxanar for the Breaking Through quest with a flying mount. |
| 21:26.26 | NeoTron | Amarande: outside of naxx is a lot smaller than the inside for sure |
| 21:26.50 | NeoTron | compare the inside to naxx to the other citadels you can actually enter... |
| 21:27.17 | Ycarene | Naxx uses the same technology as the TARDIS. |
| 21:27.26 | NeoTron | shrinks you as you enter? |
| 21:27.37 | Ycarene | Bigger on the inside. |
| 21:27.49 | Amarande | apparently, if you try to enter Naxxanar with a flying mount instead of the crystal you are supposed to, you dismount, and go splat. |
| 21:28.07 | cncfanatics | nice :o |
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| 21:35.33 | Amarande | 7152 xp from one kill. Nice. :) |
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| 22:01.04 | KanadiaN | can someone tell me where I have made the mistake in this "local s1 = string.match(Msg, "|c(%x+)|Hachievement:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+|h%[(^%]-)%]|h|r")" i have been looking at it for 2 day and can't find it |
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| 22:02.16 | Adys | happy new year to all, from athens |
| 22:02.29 | Carepolice | mMm |
| 22:02.31 | Thunder_Child | gerece? |
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| 22:02.41 | Thunder_Child | greece* |
| 22:02.45 | KanadiaN | happy new you to you as well |
| 22:02.49 | Tekkub | happy aribtrarily chosen first day of the new calendar! :P |
| 22:02.49 | Carepolice | for sure, yes :P |
| 22:03.12 | Tekkub | ah the meaninglessness of holidays |
| 22:03.16 | hipjipp | hehe |
| 22:04.07 | Carepolice | I really don't understand the celebration of the end of the current year or the start of a new one :\ but... |
| 22:04.20 | Carepolice | hard party in spain tonight, of course :\ |
| 22:04.23 | Tekkub | same here |
| 22:04.37 | Adys | Thunder_Child: no, italy's athens |
| 22:04.37 | Tekkub | now if you worked for a calendar printer, sure it's something to celebrate |
| 22:05.37 | Carepolice | Tekkub where are you from? |
| 22:06.36 | Tekkub | the crappy US |
| 22:06.48 | Thunder_Child | Adys, cool |
| 22:07.10 | Carepolice | crappy? |
| 22:07.15 | Carepolice | USA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spain ;) |
| 22:07.34 | Thunder_Child | Carepolice, ignore Tekkub, he is just bitter |
| 22:07.56 | Carepolice | 'bitter'? I don't understand, sorry :( |
| 22:08.12 | Adys | means he likes biting in the butter |
| 22:08.14 | Thunder_Child | ~dict bitter |
| 22:08.38 | Codayus | Hmm, that's a fairly useless definition, in context. |
| 22:08.49 | Thunder_Child | true |
| 22:08.54 | Thunder_Child | i was hoping for better |
| 22:08.59 | Carepolice | :( |
| 22:10.04 | Codayus | 6. Marked by resentment or cynicism: "He was already a bitter elderly man with a gray face" |
| 22:10.49 | Codayus | 4. Proceeding from or exhibiting strong animosity: a bitter struggle; bitter foes. |
| 22:11.02 | Carepolice | :O |
| 22:11.56 | Carepolice | I am falling asleep... -_-U |
| 22:12.19 | KanadiaN | anyone able to help me with this? |
| 22:12.36 | Thunder_Child | ~asktoask |
| 22:12.37 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 22:12.56 | KanadiaN | i did ask |
| 22:13.00 | Carepolice | KanadiaN i can't sorry :\ |
| 22:13.31 | Shirik | KanadiaN: What did you get, and what did you expect to get? |
| 22:13.41 | Thunder_Child | sorry KanadiaN, i had to scroll |
| 22:14.16 | Tekkub | KanadiaN, the more complicated you make the regex, the harder it is to debug and the more likely it is to not match |
| 22:14.18 | KanadiaN | i got nothing and expected the achievement link from a string of text |
| 22:14.22 | Shirik | [(^%]-)%] |
| 22:14.25 | Shirik | that doesn't mean anything to me |
| 22:14.26 | Codayus | Hah, purl is far too optimistic about human nature. More accurate might be "and even if people are around, they'll probably ignore you or provide incorrect advice." :-p |
| 22:14.27 | Shirik | what is that? |
| 22:14.34 | Codayus | But yeah, that regex is scary. |
| 22:14.57 | Thunder_Child | ~factinfo asktoask |
| 22:14.57 | purl | asktoask -- created by Shirik <i=nospam@24.229.63.42.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net> at Wed Jul 18 00:33:40 2007 (532 days); it has been requested 44 times, last by Thunder_Child, 2m 20s ago. |
| 22:15.15 | Thunder_Child | Codayus, no that means Shirik is too optimistic |
| 22:15.26 | Codayus | purl shouldn't listen to shirik! |
| 22:15.43 | Shirik | KanadiaN: Is is extremely likely that this block is the problem: [(^%]-)%] |
| 22:15.49 | Shirik | Mostly because it doesn't look like it means anything logical |
| 22:15.56 | KanadiaN | Shirik: it is for the string of text within the [] of the achievement |
| 22:16.32 | Shirik | %[(^%]-)%] |
| 22:16.33 | Shirik | sorry |
| 22:16.34 | Tekkub | "|c(%x+)|Hachievement:[^|]+|h.([^|]+).|h|r" |
| 22:16.42 | Shirik | yes, what Tekkub said is much easier |
| 22:16.50 | KanadiaN | sorry i am not good witht he expressions part |
| 22:16.52 | Tekkub | keep it as simple as possible |
| 22:16.54 | Codayus | Okay, more substantively, that regex looks like your doing it wrong. If you just want the entire achievement link, you should be able to get away with just matching the first and end, since it should be greedy. |
| 22:17.11 | Thunder_Child | i'm greedy |
| 22:17.20 | Codayus | ...or hey, what Tekkub said, yeah. :-p |
| 22:17.20 | Tekkub | he wants the color and the name from what I can tell |
| 22:17.27 | Tekkub | but I think the color's always the same |
| 22:17.29 | Shirik | Your regex would be good for verifying that it's a valid link, but you don't really need to validate that because you KNOW it will be valid |
| 22:17.40 | Shirik | so make it simple like Tekkub's |
| 22:17.41 | Codayus | Ah, right. |
| 22:18.17 | Tekkub | so I'd do "|Hachievement:[^|]+|h.([^|]+).|h|r" |
| 22:18.42 | Shirik | what is those . for? |
| 22:20.14 | KanadiaN | i am trying to make a filter to switch !a with the achievement like addon i am making |
| 22:20.49 | KanadiaN | example.. when someone gets an achievement it says grats |
| 22:21.30 | Tekkub | eew |
| 22:21.39 | Tekkub | if care, grats them manually |
| 22:22.22 | KanadiaN | i am doing it more to learn the language then I am for anything |
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| 22:23.54 | KanadiaN | so %x+ is whats is matched so there for that is whats returned? |
| 22:24.17 | durcyn | spamming SendChatMessage is a bad way to make friends |
| 22:26.21 | KanadiaN | lol your funny have a addon do it for you is just the same as typeing it out, eather way you still "spamming" grats |
| 22:27.03 | durcyn | for the first two words of that alleged sentence alone, you should probably go choke yourself. |
| 22:28.56 | Shirik | KanadiaN: I don't agree; at least if you type it out, it's a personal feeling |
| 22:29.14 | Shirik | rather than an automated message, which to me says "you were so lazy you couldn't even congratulate me" |
| 22:29.26 | Shirik | I'm not saying you shouldn't make it, because that's your perogative; I just wouldn't use it myself |
| 22:30.22 | Dolby | Shirik: what post of twobits was bad? |
| 22:30.31 | Dolby | i dont read anything thats bad in that thread |
| 22:30.35 | KanadiaN | ya i agree but who would you even know i was using an addon if it just said Grats? |
| 22:31.08 | KanadiaN | sorry typo how |
| 22:37.25 | Tekkub | because you say the same thing the moment someone gets an achievement? |
| 22:37.40 | Tekkub | how about, make you adding make a noise to alert you to someone's achievement |
| 22:37.53 | Tekkub | then the you can grats them if you do care, and you get your practice coding |
| 22:38.59 | Tem|work | KanadiaN: the word is "you're" |
| 22:39.04 | Tem|work | get it right or pay the price |
| 22:39.06 | KanadiaN | that is a very good idea, i never even thought of that |
| 22:39.25 | Tem|work | spekaing of which |
| 22:39.33 | Tem|work | if someone sees Sixen around here, ping me |
| 22:39.37 | Tem|work | Sixen: oh hey |
| 22:39.39 | Tem|work | ping |
| 22:40.31 | Tem|work | do a s/your/you're/g on your BS sticky in the profession forums and it'll be better off than it is now |
| 22:40.46 | Tem|work | also, I'll be less likely to strangle you at the next blizzcon |
| 22:41.16 | Sixen | Ping |
| 22:41.21 | Sixen | Aw. |
| 22:41.49 | Sixen | Why so strangle Sixen? |
| 22:41.50 | Sixen | :( |
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| 22:43.50 | Sixen | do a s/your/you're/g on your BS sticky in the profession forums and it'll be better off than it is now |
| 22:43.54 | Sixen | What's that supposed to say? |
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| 22:46.08 | Sixen | Anyone here have an EU Account? |
| 22:54.09 | NeoTron | Sixen: replace references of "your" with "you're" in the sticky? |
| 22:54.32 | Sixen | do as you're on your BS sticky ... blah.. |
| 22:54.58 | Sixen | Oh. |
| 22:55.02 | Sixen | I see. |
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| 22:56.40 | Shirik | Any XML gurus here? I'm curious, what happens if you're in a <![CDATA[ block and you want to write the content ]]> ? Can you escape it? |
| 22:58.04 | Iriel | I'll have to look that up 8-) |
| 22:58.25 | Shirik | ! I found something Iriel doesn't know! |
| 22:58.32 | Iriel | A CDATA section cannot contain the string "]]>". Nested CDATA sections are not allowed. |
| 22:58.48 | Sixen | Iriel knows all. |
| 22:59.02 | Iriel | TBH I usually run into CDATA when people try and be lazy and think it gets it out of having to do proper XML escaping |
| 22:59.09 | Iriel | Iriel knows where to look. |
| 22:59.54 | Shirik | I think Iriel found the same page as me |
| 23:00.07 | Shirik | or maybe Iriel found the specification |
| 23:00.09 | Mikk | Happy New Year |
| 23:00.15 | Shirik | "Within a CDATA section, only the CDEnd string is recognized as markup, so that left angle brackets and ampersands may occur in their literal form; they need not (and cannot) be escaped using "<" and "&". CDATA sections cannot nest." |
| 23:00.36 | Iriel | I hit the spec 2nd, but it wasn't any more useful 8-) |
| 23:00.51 | Iriel | Personally I rarely use it, and rely on my XML parser to take care of un-cdata'ing things |
| 23:00.55 | Wobin | mikma: what was my DK? |
| 23:01.08 | Shirik | I was just kinda curious because it's been bugging me |
| 23:01.12 | Shirik | I like finding holes :P |
| 23:01.56 | Iriel | I like knowing where they are, it's handy for when you want to explain why someone's "great idea" wasn't |
| 23:02.23 | Iriel | such as 'we'll just use a sql query and put CDATA wrappers around allt he fields and never have to worry about escaping |
| 23:03.07 | Iriel | I guess you could argue that you CAN escape ]]> in a CDATA section.... |
| 23:03.14 | cbreak | how? |
| 23:03.29 | Iriel | If you escape it as ]]]]><<![CDATA[ |
| 23:03.36 | Shirik | yeah, the answer I saw was |
| 23:03.40 | Iriel | Sorry, >, not < |
| 23:03.47 | Shirik | <![CDATA[]]]]><![CDATA[>]]> |
| 23:03.52 | Shirik | that's the answer I got |
| 23:03.59 | Iriel | Oh yes, that works too |
| 23:04.00 | zenzelezz | Shirik: that's starting to look like perl |
| 23:04.02 | Iriel | shorter than mine |
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| 23:07.40 | Iriel | ANyone else find this zune thing darkly amusing? |
| 23:08.04 | Sixen | Microsoft Zune? =O. |
| 23:08.09 | Iriel | I'm trying to imagine the engineer whos bug this is, at the moment he realizes what he did wrong (or she, if it's a woman) |
| 23:08.16 | Iriel | Sixen: That's the one |
| 23:08.17 | Shirik | what bug? |
| 23:08.27 | Iriel | They're bricking |
| 23:08.32 | Iriel | Today |
| 23:08.37 | Iriel | looks like a time/date based thing |
| 23:08.54 | Shirik | ... |
| 23:09.02 | Shirik | "Microsoft blames leap year for Zune freeze" |
| 23:09.04 | Shirik | that? |
| 23:09.06 | Iriel | http://zuneinsider.com/archive/2008/12/31/30-gb-zune-issue-update.aspx#comments |
| 23:09.08 | Tekkub | trey was just babbling about that |
| 23:09.11 | zenzelezz | was the 30 GB one only? |
| 23:09.17 | Iriel | I've not seen any actual information from MS |
| 23:09.22 | Iriel | beyond 'we're looking at it" |
| 23:09.28 | Shirik | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28449091/ |
| 23:09.33 | Iriel | Sounds like it's mostly the 30gb's, though I saw someone post about 80gb too |
| 23:09.50 | zenzelezz | I would be surprised if it was only one size range |
| 23:09.51 | Iriel | Shirik: Aha |
| 23:10.18 | Sixen | That's kinda funny ;P |
| 23:11.53 | Sixen | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28392450/ ... That's interesting. |
| 23:13.00 | Iriel | 22:59:60 8-) |
| 23:13.02 | Amarande | it's a zune. nuff said. :P |
| 23:13.13 | Amarande | wow, that was perhaps the most epic quest ever that doesn't involve having to be in a raid |
| 23:13.17 | Iriel | 23:59:60, even |
| 23:13.20 | Iriel | silly off-by-one |
| 23:13.23 | Sixen | That, :P |
| 23:13.39 | Amarande | also, ret pallies suck. |
| 23:13.42 | Sixen | So 2008 will be 1 seconds longer. Hah. |
| 23:13.48 | Amarande | I say this because the ret pally I was with on that quest actually managed to DIE. |
| 23:14.01 | Iriel | 1 second longer than normal leap years, yes |
| 23:14.31 | Sixen | Mm., |
| 23:15.10 | Amarande | how, in hell's name, do you manage to die on a proper run of the undercity portion of wrath gate |
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| 23:18.45 | Tekkub | uh, the plague barrel putress tosses can kill a clothie quite nicely |
| 23:18.52 | Tekkub | *barrels |
| 23:19.32 | Fisker- | Tekkub |
| 23:19.33 | Fisker- | why so awesome? |
| 23:19.44 | Amarande | Tekkub: wouldn't know |
| 23:19.47 | Amarande | I'm pretty sure horde never meets Putress |
| 23:20.03 | Tekkub | yea then that's all just suck |
| 23:20.06 | Amarande | also: this was a ret pally who died. I was the clothie, and I never died |
| 23:20.18 | Tekkub | double suck |
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| 23:40.03 | Iriel | Mmm.. delicious chocolate cake |
| 23:45.21 | Amarande | Iriel, I think it's a lie |
| 23:45.26 | Amarande | and I need it for TWO achievements now, too :| |
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| 23:50.02 | Amarande | hmmm ... |
| 23:50.07 | Amarande | grizzly hills or zul'drak next ... |
| 23:51.54 | Amarande | Gah. Now I only get 7600 xp for the shattrath cooking daily, and still no sign of the cake from either that or the dalaran one |
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| 23:52.22 | zenzelezz | Amarande: tell me about it, same issue |
