| 00:03.24 | Wobin | abyx: If the stupid storm clouds are not bugged, he doens't pick them up like an npc |
| 00:03.31 | Wobin | he just absorbs it |
| 00:04.15 | Wobin | but in fact, none of these quests are never bugged. They all have some stupid flaw or mechanic that just -fails- to work. |
| 00:07.35 | foxlit | Grumble grumble. |
| 00:07.43 | foxlit | I wonder why they placed restrictions on GetAddOnMetadata |
| 00:08.35 | foxlit | (looking at SavedVariables and SavedVariablesPerChar would've made some things more interesting!) |
| 00:09.03 | foxlit | In fact, could someone post that up as a request? I'd like read access to all .toc fields for an addon, not just Title/Author/Notes/X-* |
| 00:11.57 | cbreak | I am happy it works with X-* :) |
| 00:13.23 | Olorin | out of interest the icons that normally surround the minimap for each addon (well ones with icon) are they held in a table or standard named frames so you can move/rearrage them with another addon? |
| 00:14.00 | Industrial | anyone did the achievement Watch Him Die? |
| 00:14.05 | ScytheBlade1 | standard frames |
| 00:14.17 | Industrial | kill the gatewatcher without the watchers deaD? |
| 00:14.36 | Olorin | thanks |
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| 00:21.10 | Thunder_Child | ~seen tuller |
| 00:21.12 | purl | tuller <n=Tuller@c-76-27-160-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #curseforge, 7d 3h 51m 54s ago, saying: 'dewdrop is evil anyway'. |
| 00:21.19 | Tekkub | ~seen cock |
| 00:21.20 | purl | cock <n=3ebd3982@mozrat01.vm.bytemark.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 822d 14h 42m 52s ago, saying: 'loop'. |
| 00:22.12 | Thunder_Child | ~seen Tekkub's intelligence |
| 00:22.13 | purl | i haven't seen 'tekkub's intelligence', Thunder_Child |
| 00:22.19 | Thunder_Child | thats what i have thought |
| 00:22.41 | Tekkub | obviosly you're the one failing here, since irc nicks can't have spaces |
| 00:23.33 | Tekkub | besides, purl has seen cock :P |
| 00:23.41 | mikma | ~seen penis |
| 00:23.42 | purl | mikma: i haven't seen 'penis' |
| 00:24.18 | mikma | ~seen the light |
| 00:24.19 | purl | mikma: i haven't seen 'the light' |
| 00:26.16 | Tekkub | ~seen balls |
| 00:26.17 | purl | Tekkub: i haven't seen 'balls' |
| 00:26.29 | Tekkub | stupid bot is stupid |
| 00:26.37 | Tekkub | why do we keep this thing around anyway? |
| 00:26.48 | mikma | minor entertainment value? |
| 00:27.03 | Tekkub | that wore off a year ago |
| 00:27.13 | mikma | ~loser |
| 00:27.24 | purl | somebody said loser was Al Gore |
| 00:27.24 | Tekkub | see |
| 00:27.24 | mikma | aye |
| 00:27.41 | mikma | purl: no, loser is MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! |
| 00:27.42 | purl | mikma: okay |
| 00:27.48 | Tekkub | oh make that 4 years ago! |
| 00:28.17 | cbreak | interesting... when I download opie from wowinterface, I get a file with the name "1229212902-OPie-wrath9.zip". What's the meaning of the leading numbers? |
| 00:28.37 | Tekkub | whatever the person that made the zip wants it to mean |
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| 00:29.27 | Tekkub | <symphonic> YOU ARE NOT REPAIRED!</symphonic> |
| 00:29.35 | Tekkub | damnit Echoes of War |
| 00:29.36 | foxlit | cbreak: that number doesn't come from me. |
| 00:29.43 | foxlit | but if I had to guess. |
| 00:29.58 | nevcairiel | didnt wowui name the files like that |
| 00:30.10 | nevcairiel | anyway i downloaded opie just last week, and it didnt have that =P |
| 00:30.21 | cbreak | I downloaded the update from today |
| 00:30.22 | foxlit | This one is a bit special :) |
| 00:30.43 | Thunder_Child | in the head |
| 00:30.56 | mikma | OPenis rouls ok |
| 00:31.27 | foxlit | UNIX TimeStamp: 1229212902: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 00:01:42 GMT |
| 00:32.05 | foxlit | I sneakily replaced the zip with one of the same filename. I'm guessing WoWI's name collision avoidance system just prepends time(). |
| 00:32.37 | mikma | now that leads to another question |
| 00:33.00 | mikma | WHY!?!?!? no just kidding, where does the unixtime come from anyway. wikipedia on the wayyyyy |
| 00:33.32 | Tekkub | Epoch cock |
| 00:34.04 | zenzelezz | *epic |
| 00:34.10 | Tekkub | no, epoch |
| 00:34.30 | cbreak | epoch is a fixed point in time |
| 00:34.38 | cbreak | a point where all time lines converge |
| 00:34.45 | cbreak | unix time stamp 0 |
| 00:34.45 | Tekkub | with cock |
| 00:36.26 | foxlit | Wonder what Tekkub is up to :) |
| 00:36.35 | Tekkub | boredom |
| 00:36.35 | mikma | cocks most likely |
| 00:36.44 | Tekkub | cocks would be an improvement |
| 00:37.26 | mikma | ~inflatabledildos |
| 00:37.35 | mikma | didn't that exist like year ago |
| 00:37.48 | mikma | or was it that the bot owner went emo about them |
| 00:37.54 | Tekkub | I dunno |
| 00:38.06 | Tekkub | purl's gone to shit either way |
| 00:38.15 | mikma | ~shit |
| 00:38.16 | purl | shit is, like, feces |
| 00:38.39 | mikma | ~poop |
| 00:38.40 | purl | for me to poop on! |
| 00:39.17 | foxlit | ## Title: Glass Clock ## Notes: Tick. |
| 00:39.25 | foxlit | Now to write some actual code :/ |
| 00:39.34 | Tekkub | who needs code? |
| 00:40.11 | mikma | glass cock |
| 00:43.30 | cbreak | what is it supposed to do? |
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| 00:44.38 | Tekkub | let you see the pink inside |
| 00:45.51 | cbreak | you need an addon for that? |
| 00:56.29 | foxlit | cbreak: imprison Time? Eliminate the unpredictability that humans cause through their everyday actions? |
| 00:58.15 | cbreak | one watch creates confidence. two watches create confusion. |
| 00:58.21 | cbreak | you're never sure which one is right |
| 00:59.01 | Tekkub | I have had no sense of time for about 3 years now |
| 00:59.03 | Tekkub | it's wonderful |
| 00:59.24 | Tekkub | also, I think "dudepussy" has got to be the dumbest word I've ever seen |
| 00:59.37 | mikma | i've seen a picture of that :P |
| 00:59.48 | mikma | it was in a "which one would you fuck" image |
| 00:59.58 | mikma | chick with dick and dudepussy |
| 01:01.43 | cbreak | I like watches. |
| 01:01.54 | mikma | i love lamp |
| 01:02.07 | Tekkub | I like cheese |
| 01:02.07 | cbreak | light is overrated. |
| 01:03.42 | foxlit | dark, on the other hand, is underpriced. |
| 01:03.51 | foxlit | s/,/ness,/ |
| 01:04.41 | Thunder_Child | not really |
| 01:05.20 | Thunder_Child | darkness is merely the absence of light, not the opposite |
| 01:05.22 | mikma | norly? |
| 01:05.36 | cbreak | finding good darkness for astronomy is hard |
| 01:05.48 | mikma | light pollution ftw |
| 01:06.06 | mikma | i blame kebab-lights |
| 01:08.09 | cladhaire | mikma: coded so you can have a bottom panel as well |
| 01:08.13 | cladhaire | and preped for options |
| 01:08.30 | mikma | cladhaire: omg you ninja! |
| 01:08.54 | mikma | cladhaire: dragging up and down works? |
| 01:09.08 | cladhaire | it will, yes |
| 01:09.12 | cbreak | can it hide in the shadows and throw shurikens at you? |
| 01:09.17 | mikma | people will pee honey i tell you! |
| 01:10.24 | mikma | clearly we now need "Ask a Ninja" database |
| 01:10.42 | cladhaire | oh i forgot to implement auto-hide |
| 01:10.46 | cladhaire | shouldn't be too bad I think |
| 01:11.12 | mikma | eww, jumping mainmenu and unitframes :( |
| 01:11.24 | cladhaire | huh? |
| 01:11.27 | mikma | or are you talking about SetAlpha() ? |
| 01:11.43 | foxlit | Thunder_Child: only in some places :) |
| 01:12.01 | cladhaire | no, it'd just hide |
| 01:12.04 | cladhaire | leaving stuff jostled |
| 01:12.05 | zenzelezz | Saturday->Sunday night, the time when trade chat again warps into a discussion of conspiracies and black hole theories |
| 01:12.05 | mikma | cladhaire: usually autohiding panels make other stuff move up and down with them |
| 01:12.09 | cladhaire | meh |
| 01:12.10 | cladhaire | fuck that |
| 01:12.13 | cladhaire | imo :P |
| 01:12.51 | mikma | i can't quite understand the whole need of autohide with this kind of panels |
| 01:13.16 | mikma | a) you will have a blank space where the panel is b) other stuff on screen will jump up and down |
| 01:13.19 | cbreak | me neither. but then I don't use them at all :) |
| 01:13.33 | cbreak | or you have the pannel on top of stuff if it's shown |
| 01:13.41 | cbreak | (that's what I would preferr) |
| 01:14.25 | mikma | what about taint with autohide? :P happens in combat? |
| 01:14.37 | cbreak | does taint matter? |
| 01:14.43 | cbreak | (does it cast/target?) |
| 01:15.03 | cbreak | and even if, you can set alpha of stuff independently of taint |
| 01:15.40 | mikma | i'm not sure are there stuff that can be tainted in the plugins |
| 01:16.23 | Anaral | Other than the feature that comes with Mobinfo-2, is there an addon for counting mob kills? |
| 01:16.53 | cbreak | there are kill related statistics in the achievement frame |
| 01:17.37 | Anaral | No I want it to count by each specific mob per session and overall. |
| 01:18.45 | Anaral | Like I want to kill x amount of Bogflare Needlers a day |
| 01:19.04 | cbreak | recap counts kills of mobs. but it's quite heavy for that purpose |
| 01:19.53 | Anaral | Aye, same with Mobinfo-2 |
| 01:23.11 | Thunder_Child | foxlit, in all places |
| 01:23.35 | foxlit | Begone, logic. |
| 01:24.32 | Anaral | cbreak I think I may have found something... KillLog Reloaded. Lets see if it does the job. |
| 01:25.45 | Industrial | wee got the hadronox achievement |
| 01:25.54 | Industrial | cant get the first and last boss down there tho for achievements :( |
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| 01:34.44 | Thunder_Child | the addon update format on wowi is m/d/y or d/m/y ? |
| 01:35.09 | Thunder_Child | nvm, figured it out |
| 01:35.53 | cbreak | just asume it's ISO :) |
| 01:36.05 | Thunder_Child | it's m/d/y/ |
| 01:36.17 | Thunder_Child | -/ |
| 01:36.19 | cbreak | how random |
| 01:36.29 | Thunder_Child | more like how US |
| 01:36.53 | mikma | cairenn: http://kuvaton.com/bshit/jaakaappi.jpg <- yeah i know this has been taken by you |
| 01:37.20 | foxlit | I'm surprised there isn't an option to alter it |
| 01:37.48 | Corrodias | the hell is that, mikma? |
| 01:37.59 | foxlit | bad vbulletin, bad. |
| 01:38.02 | mikma | corrodias: lots, and lots of snow, in a canada style! |
| 01:38.03 | Thunder_Child | stupid pic, anyone knows that beer drinkers are lazy which means they would ALL be shoved into the top of the snow |
| 01:38.29 | mikma | top? |
| 01:38.37 | mikma | try bottom (they usually go 4x4) |
| 01:39.01 | Thunder_Child | no one wants to bend down to pick up beer if they can help it |
| 01:39.02 | Corrodias | ah, beer cans stuck in snow |
| 01:39.20 | Thunder_Child | unless they are already on the floot |
| 01:39.22 | Thunder_Child | r* |
| 01:39.25 | Cairenn | mikma: rofl |
| 01:39.30 | mikma | thunder_child: 4x4, like i said :D |
| 01:39.33 | Cairenn | not me, though, I don't drink beer |
| 01:39.48 | NightHawkTheSane | argh |
| 01:39.49 | mikma | you know, crawl between toilet and fridge or so |
| 01:39.50 | Cairenn | now, if that were baileys, or vodka or rum, or ... |
| 01:39.59 | NightHawkTheSane | how do you "just realize" you never trained your level 80 skills, like two weeks later. |
| 01:40.09 | mikma | mmm bailays |
| 01:40.16 | mikma | only thing i miss about booze |
| 01:40.26 | Thunder_Child | if you have to crawl to get your drink there is something wrong |
| 01:41.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: only thing wrong is that you had to move in the first placec |
| 01:42.57 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane, agreed |
| 01:56.35 | NightHawkTheSane | ~seen pastamancer |
| 01:56.36 | purl | pastamancer is currently on #wowuidev #wowace #curseforge. Has said a total of 32 messages. Is idling for 17m 5s, last said: 'ah, on the ptr?'. |
| 01:56.40 | NightHawkTheSane | pastamancer: ping? |
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| 02:03.20 | mikma | ttp://matin.maapallo.org/site.pl/selain/?c=pennyarcade&i=1243 |
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| 02:05.55 | NightHawkTheSane | wtb that link with an h so i can click it |
| 02:06.57 | |pez| | lazy |
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| 02:20.44 | NightHawkTheSane | yep |
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| 02:49.55 | Thunder_Child | http://www.thunder-child.net/Misc/Story%20Of%20The%20Barely%20Dressed%20Mango%20Wildcats%20with%20Slow%20Motion%20Fists%20Of%20Fury.mp3 |
| 02:57.08 | abyx | how do i get a spell's icon that isn't a spell from my own class? |
| 02:57.23 | abyx | say i'm a rogue, how would i get grounding totem's icon |
| 02:58.26 | Arrowmaster | you would look up the spellid first |
| 02:58.30 | Corrodias | when you say "get", what do you mean? |
| 02:58.52 | abyx | the path to the spell's icon |
| 02:59.12 | Arrowmaster | !api GetSpellInfo |
| 02:59.12 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'GetSpellInfo' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetSpellInfo |
| 02:59.33 | abyx | that doesn't work for spells that i don't know when i use just the text version of the spell |
| 02:59.55 | pastamancer | NightHawkTheSane: pong |
| 03:00.13 | NightHawkTheSane | pastamancer: any chance of getting a "mine only" filter for auras in grid? |
| 03:00.26 | Arrowmaster | abyx: which is why i said you lookup the spellid first |
| 03:00.49 | pastamancer | NightHawkTheSane: yeah, I haven't gotten to overhauling the auras yet |
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| 03:01.12 | NightHawkTheSane | *nod* no worries |
| 03:02.29 | abyx | is there a way to get a spell's id given just the name of the spell? |
| 03:03.29 | pastamancer | no since multiple spells can have the same name |
| 03:03.55 | Arrowmaster | abyx: not unless its in your spellbook |
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| 03:12.42 | Adys | technically yes using GetSpellInfo |
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| 03:13.10 | Adys | but this prolly would freeze the game for a lil while |
| 03:13.52 | pastamancer | you wouldn't be able to know if that's really the right spell id unless it has a unique name though |
| 03:13.58 | Adys | aye |
| 03:14.18 | pastamancer | easier to just look them up on wowhead and hardcode the id instead of the name |
| 03:23.03 | abyx | ehm how exactly do i find the spellid of a spell? |
| 03:23.26 | Gnarfoz | look it up on wowhead |
| 03:23.36 | Gnarfoz | check the location bar of your browser. |
| 03:24.39 | abyx | thats what i tried but the icon path for blind (supposedly #2094) is Interface\Icons\Spell_Shadow_MindSteal and that doesn't sound like blind... but i suppose the icon doesn't have to match the spell name |
| 03:27.25 | Gnarfoz | nevermind the texture names. |
| 03:27.40 | Gnarfoz | they're "wrong" all over the place ;) |
| 03:28.27 | Gnarfoz | sometimes because they're used in multiple places, some times because they're designed quite early on and changing file names is more of a hassle than assigning a "weird" texture name to a spell of another name |
| 03:28.32 | Gnarfoz | etc |
| 03:29.22 | Gnarfoz | also, yep, that's both correct in ID and texture. for texture names, double-click the spell icon on the wowhead page ^^ |
| 03:32.21 | kd3 | yay work |
| 03:34.20 | Shirik|Ecole | have I mentioned that C is evil and ugly compared to C++? |
| 03:34.41 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm trying to read Minix's code and it is so .... wow. |
| 03:35.07 | Adys | I find C syntax to be clear, straight to the point and very attractive with an easy learning curve |
| 03:35.19 | Adys | But it might be just me |
| 03:35.26 | Shirik|Ecole | It can be clear |
| 03:35.35 | Shirik|Ecole | until you write it in such ugly form |
| 03:36.11 | Adys | also yeah about icons |
| 03:36.15 | Adys | counterspell's is Spell_Frost_IceShock |
| 03:36.44 | cbreak | C is almost completely contained in C++ |
| 03:37.53 | Adys | hehe |
| 03:37.58 | Adys | AI is Spell_Holy_MagicalSentry |
| 03:38.46 | Gnarfoz | which makes sense, since they just copied that over from war3 ;D |
| 03:38.53 | Adys | aye i remember |
| 03:39.00 | Adys | wonder about devotion |
| 03:39.14 | Adys | awh boring |
| 03:39.14 | Adys | Spell_Holy_DevotionAura |
| 03:39.43 | abyx | whats the best way to convert seconds to hours:minutes:seconds? |
| 03:40.06 | Adys | asking google |
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| 03:42.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Recommendations for a good tooltip addon? |
| 03:42.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Looks like TinyTip has died :( |
| 03:43.14 | Adys | quick, bring the jumper cables |
| 03:43.14 | Adys | good night |
| 03:43.14 | Corrodias | shit, i liked tinytip |
| 03:43.19 | Thunder_Child | i just started using tiptac ScytheBlade1, seems to be ok |
| 03:43.40 | Thunder_Child | did wow change it's default tooltip look? |
| 03:45.48 | Adys | http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview/id/250025.html |
| 03:45.51 | Adys | Clearly we need a better way of determining how many seconds are in a year. |
| 03:46.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Corrodias: yeah same :( |
| 03:47.58 | MentalPower | that looks and reads like a homework question |
| 03:50.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, sexymap is sexy. |
| 03:50.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: ^ |
| 03:51.12 | Antiarc | what |
| 03:51.14 | Antiarc | oh |
| 03:51.22 | Antiarc | yes, that's why I didn't call it NicePersonalityMap |
| 03:51.50 | ScytheBlade1 | I have to say that the button spam fading in/out on mouse in/out |
| 03:51.57 | ScytheBlade1 | THAT is the reason I'll be using it |
| 03:52.03 | Antiarc | :D |
| 03:52.09 | Antiarc | It makes button spam quite bearable |
| 03:52.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Only took us what, years to figure that out? |
| 03:52.31 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd give you $5 but I honestly have less than $1 now, just for this |
| 03:53.04 | MentalPower | anyone know of a program to split vob files by chapters into individual mpeg files? |
| 03:54.16 | Corrodias | not i |
| 03:54.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Now if only we had buff/debuff addons that were as well off as SexyMap... |
| 03:56.14 | Antiarc | People keep saying I need to write SexyBuff but I don't even know what they'd look like |
| 03:57.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Honestly? Sure your SexyMap looks good, but I'm taking it for the (sexy) functionality |
| 03:57.46 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't give a crap what it looks like, let ButtonFacade worry about that |
| 03:57.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Give me smart self buff-debuff filtering |
| 03:58.02 | Antiarc | I kinda do that with Elkano's |
| 03:58.05 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm a mage, I don't care that I have a 10s AP buff |
| 03:58.12 | Antiarc | I have my priority buffs in one bar set |
| 03:58.15 | Antiarc | Everything else in another one |
| 03:58.28 | ScytheBlade1 | hmm |
| 03:58.41 | Antiarc | The priority one is above my unit frame, the rest is tucked away in the corner |
| 03:58.52 | Gnarfoz | what 'sexy functionality' is there in sexymap, ScytheBlade1? |
| 03:59.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Install it for 20 seconds |
| 03:59.16 | Corrodias | it will win the game for you |
| 03:59.16 | Gnarfoz | I had it installed |
| 03:59.30 | Gnarfoz | or actually, it's still there, just disabled, because it doesn't do *anything* I can use :\ |
| 03:59.32 | ScytheBlade1 | The button spam around the minimap |
| 03:59.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Poof |
| 03:59.38 | Gnarfoz | what buttons? |
| 04:00.00 | Gnarfoz | it's not round anyway, it's square. square minimap + buttons? I beg you. :p |
| 04:00.10 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:00.11 | Gnarfoz | no buttons whatsoever on my minimap :O |
| 04:00.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: I've only ever seen Elk's like this: http://mediabeta.curse.com/Curse.Projects.ProjectImages/2398/3758/ElkBuffBars_003.jpg |
| 04:00.33 | Antiarc | sec |
| 04:00.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Which is about 15 too many buffs that I'm caring about |
| 04:01.02 | Corrodias | that is taking up WAY too much space |
| 04:01.11 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 04:01.22 | Corrodias | i stuck with the default buff bars when i played because they were honestly the most compact display i could find. |
| 04:01.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Which is actually why I still to this day use the stock blizzard buffs/debuffs |
| 04:01.38 | Corrodias | screen space was at a minimum on my setup |
| 04:01.41 | ScytheBlade1 | But then the other day... I managed to get more buffs than it could display, taking up three rows on my screen |
| 04:01.48 | ScytheBlade1 | And now I'm looking for a better solution |
| 04:02.01 | Gnarfoz | Buffalo :> |
| 04:02.08 | Antiarc | http://i33.tinypic.com/x1h6jm.jpg |
| 04:02.32 | Antiarc | Priority buffs and debuffs above the unit frames |
| 04:02.39 | Antiarc | Everything else in the upper left/lower right |
| 04:02.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah I see |
| 04:02.47 | Gnarfoz | at least Buffalo has configurable Row/Column settings, ScytheBlade1. otherwise it is pretty simple |
| 04:02.53 | abyx | is there a wow version of os.date()? i need to convert seconds to hours/minutes/seconds |
| 04:03.06 | ScytheBlade1 | abyx: just date() iirc |
| 04:03.33 | ScytheBlade1 | hmm |
| 04:03.45 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: the bars above player and target are not classtimer? oO |
| 04:03.52 | Antiarc | Elkano's |
| 04:04.27 | Antiarc | wait, no, debuffs are classtimer |
| 04:05.15 | Gnarfoz | :> |
| 04:06.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: the entire top right half of your screen is more or less dedicated to the display of buffs/debuffs, right? |
| 04:07.06 | Antiarc | yeah |
| 04:07.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah see that's my problem with it |
| 04:07.19 | Antiarc | tooltip is middle right |
| 04:07.22 | ScytheBlade1 | In an arena, not an issue, I won't ever have that many |
| 04:07.25 | Antiarc | I never look up there |
| 04:07.39 | ScytheBlade1 | In a 25s raid, the entire screen is going to be outright filled with buffs I don't even remotely care about |
| 04:07.55 | Antiarc | Elkano lets you blacklist things you don't want to see |
| 04:08.06 | ScytheBlade1 | I may look into that then |
| 04:08.11 | Antiarc | I have my priority buffs blacklisted from the top right |
| 04:08.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Right |
| 04:08.30 | ScytheBlade1 | And displayed above your unitframes |
| 04:09.24 | ScytheBlade1 | hmm k, thanks, I may poke with that in the near future |
| 04:09.41 | ScytheBlade1 | My FPS was hitting all of 3 in raids, so I got a UI setup under windows :( |
| 04:09.55 | ScytheBlade1 | But as a side effect, I'm running WoW at 1680x1050 instead of 1440x900 |
| 04:10.15 | ScytheBlade1 | So I've got a few more options |
| 04:12.00 | Tekkub | I fail to see the logic |
| 04:25.15 | Thunder_Child | anyone have a ss of the default tooltip? |
| 04:26.14 | Kirov_ | default tooltip of what? |
| 04:26.19 | Thunder_Child | npc |
| 04:31.24 | Shirik|Ecole | Pop quiz: Name a good x86 (preferably x86-64) assembler that can run under Windows |
| 04:33.28 | Corrodias | Bob the Builder! |
| 04:33.34 | Corrodias | can we assemble it? YES WE CAN |
| 04:33.58 | Corrodias | that doesn't exist, i'm just joking |
| 04:34.23 | Gnarfoz | whoever linked that Louis C.K. video yesterday... that guy is so awesome :D |
| 04:34.30 | cbreak | yasm? |
| 04:36.39 | cbreak | (the only one besides nasm I know... :) |
| 04:37.27 | Corrodias | yes'm |
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| 04:47.52 | Wobin | clad|sleep: the NinjaPanel has no global framename? |
| 04:53.11 | Wobin | Gnarfoz: what link? |
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| 04:59.16 | Gnarfoz | Wobin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbIGbZ6gq_Y < that one, but I went from related vid to related vid and watched as much of his stuff as I could find on youtube ;D |
| 04:59.34 | Gnarfoz | now watching Louis.C.K.Chewed.Up.720p.HDTV.x264-SYS and I'm in tears xD that guy is hilarious ;D |
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| 05:10.29 | Patrick_P | Damned wow programming book... lol I haven't passed through the lua chapters yet lol |
| 05:10.54 | Patrick_P | 1 more left so i can start the xml part... |
| 05:14.00 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/3.0/SboUI-3.0.png <-- yay mostly done |
| 05:17.41 | Patrick_P | err where's the actionbars? |
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| 05:21.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Patrick_P: all keybound |
| 05:21.52 | Patrick_P | i hate u |
| 05:22.43 | Patrick_P | i play till day 1 and i'm still a clicker... lol |
| 05:23.16 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: does the rune graphic spin? |
| 05:23.29 | MentalPower | actually, that would get distracting really fast |
| 05:23.32 | MentalPower | nm |
| 05:23.42 | Gnarfoz | it's SexyMap. yes, it moves. |
| 05:24.03 | Gnarfoz | or rather, it can, dunno if that exact one does |
| 05:24.04 | Gnarfoz | ;) |
| 05:24.45 | Patrick_P | i got it on my ui and i found it distrating for like 10 minutes... then i got used to it... |
| 05:25.06 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: yes, but slowly |
| 05:25.17 | ScytheBlade1 | It's not distracting at all |
| 05:28.25 | Patrick_P | i like the sun skin too |
| 05:28.37 | Patrick_P | looks like lotro minimap... |
| 05:34.04 | NightHawkTheSane | is tooltip scanning the only way to pull the DPS (or any stat value) from an item? |
| 05:34.05 | Xiro | anyone here good w/ vim? |
| 05:34.47 | ScytheBlade1 | NightHawkTheSane: probably |
| 05:34.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: EBB comes so close to what I want to do, but not quite :( |
| 05:35.16 | Antiarc | -Bug Elkano! He's good about adding features. |
| 05:35.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 05:35.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Boo he's not here |
| 05:37.11 | ScytheBlade1 | This may be too customized... I may just write something myself |
| 05:37.48 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, what is it that you want? |
| 05:37.59 | Xiro | nvm |
| 05:38.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: the ability to track both my target's debuffs and my buffs in a compact way |
| 05:38.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Or rather |
| 05:38.43 | ScytheBlade1 | A very select number of buffs/debuffs |
| 05:40.41 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, there are some buff addons that do that iirc |
| 05:41.08 | Thunder_Child | including EBB ScytheBlade1 |
| 05:41.23 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, it has a whitelist and blacklist |
| 05:41.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah but you have to pick between your target and your own player |
| 05:42.07 | ScytheBlade1 | I want to stick 1 self buff and 3 target debuffs on a bar |
| 05:42.18 | Thunder_Child | make 2 bars |
| 05:42.56 | Thunder_Child | if they are next to each other they will autoshift with expansion |
| 05:43.18 | Wobin | Gnarfoz: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=999OFGq7WwI&NR=1 |
| 05:49.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Is there any better way to configure EBB than a massive waterfall menu that is way to big even for 1680x1050? |
| 05:49.42 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, WTF? |
| 05:50.13 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, thats what i use and it takes up less than a 1/5th in height and far less in width |
| 05:51.01 | ScytheBlade1 | sec |
| 05:52.33 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/3.0/hugemenu.jpg |
| 05:52.53 | Thunder_Child | *snicker* |
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| 05:53.02 | Thunder_Child | have you tried command line? |
| 05:53.17 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm not sure if I want to relive my flexbar days :P |
| 05:53.39 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, can you manualy enter the data in the SV? |
| 05:54.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Not too much of an improvement :P |
| 05:54.41 | Thunder_Child | wont take up all of your screen |
| 05:55.17 | ScytheBlade1 | You don't know that for sure, it just may take up more :P |
| 05:55.27 | Thunder_Child | true |
| 05:56.06 | Thunder_Child | i see you are not the only one bitching about EBB ScytheBlade1 |
| 05:56.43 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
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| 06:15.24 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/3.0/SboUI-3.0-combat.png |
| 06:15.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Bit better |
| 06:26.44 | NightHawkTheSane | i seriously fucking hate tooltip scanning |
| 06:27.56 | ScytheBlade1 | So, I just ported to Dalaran |
| 06:28.04 | ScytheBlade1 | WoW pissed itself and died (crashed out) |
| 06:28.07 | ScytheBlade1 | And, magically |
| 06:28.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Elk's Buff Bars lost all settings |
| 06:28.15 | ScytheBlade1 | ALL |
| 06:29.50 | Thunder_Child | i shouldnt be, but i'l lol irl |
| 06:30.02 | Thunder_Child | s/i'l/i'm/ |
| 06:30.17 | NightHawkTheSane | did you, er, reload/log, whatever, since you set them up? |
| 06:30.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes |
| 06:30.30 | Thunder_Child | does the port count? |
| 06:30.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Twice |
| 06:30.35 | ScytheBlade1 | No |
| 06:30.40 | ScytheBlade1 | I reloaded mid way through |
| 06:30.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Logged out entirely, back in |
| 06:30.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Crashed |
| 06:30.50 | NightHawkTheSane | :\ |
| 06:30.52 | ScytheBlade1 | No EBB settings, at all |
| 06:30.58 | ScytheBlade1 | No .lua.bak in the SV folders either |
| 06:31.48 | Otixa | BOOOORED |
| 06:31.50 | Otixa | ARGHHH |
| 06:33.47 | Corrodias | i should make shirts. "i fap for FAP" |
| 06:35.16 | Corrodias | ...time for some games |
| 06:39.24 | ccox | hmm, are there no treasure chests in northrend? |
| 06:39.54 | Shirik|Ecole | This is a .... strange question |
| 06:39.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Or Outland |
| 06:40.03 | Shirik|Ecole | does anyone here have a floppy drive, or perhaps a VM? |
| 06:40.06 | ScytheBlade1 | There are no chests outside of the Azeroth |
| 06:40.27 | Corrodias | i've got a couple of VM's on my old computer, and i think it has a floppy drive as well |
| 06:40.56 | Shirik|Ecole | I swear I've written this code right, and my VM isn't saying "Operating system not found," But I'm not getting anything to display on the screen either when I boot to this (virtual) floppy |
| 06:41.13 | Shirik|Ecole | so I was thinking maybe someone else would like to try it to confirm my (in)sanity |
| 06:41.42 | Corrodias | i could give it a go |
| 06:44.06 | Shirik|Ecole | I thought I would try writing boot code (in preparation for playing around with kernel-mode code) and I didn't expect it to be this difficult >< I'm hoping it's that my VM is misconfigured |
| 06:44.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: try a real machine? |
| 06:44.39 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't have any with a floppy anymore :( |
| 06:45.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 06:48.04 | Corrodias | want to provide me an image or something? |
| 06:48.25 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 06:48.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Crashed again |
| 06:48.47 | Shirik|Ecole | sorry, Corrodias, was trying to transfer it to my server |
| 06:48.51 | Shirik|Ecole | Here's the image http://secure.heresiarchguild.com/test.img |
| 06:49.19 | Shirik|Ecole | It should just boot to a "hello world" and halt the CPU |
| 06:50.38 | Shirik|Ecole | I guess it's also possible I'm building the image wrong |
| 06:51.28 | Corrodias | okay, let's see |
| 06:52.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Hey Shirik, think I found your problem |
| 06:52.20 | ScytheBlade1 | [kyle@averageurl ~]$ file test.img |
| 06:52.20 | ScytheBlade1 | test.img: DOS floppy 1440k, x86 hard disk boot sector |
| 06:52.27 | ScytheBlade1 | hard disk boot sector? |
| 06:52.45 | Shirik|Ecole | uh |
| 06:52.50 | Shirik|Ecole | I dunno T_T |
| 06:52.54 | Shirik|Ecole | I just use the tools I was given! |
| 06:53.44 | Shirik|Ecole | Do you know of a good tool to create a bootable floppy from a compiled (bootable) program? |
| 06:54.26 | Corrodias | yeah, my VM does nothing |
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| 06:59.03 | Otixa | ARGH |
| 06:59.29 | Otixa | How does one add icons to the map and minimap which are at the exact world coords? >;/ |
| 07:03.07 | Thunder_Child | use an addon that has the preprogrammed in? |
| 07:03.33 | Otixa | But I wanna write a function that does that ;/ |
| 07:03.47 | Otixa | And all the examples I looked that are overengineered |
| 07:04.15 | Thunder_Child | that might be because you have to have an entire framework to do it |
| 07:04.29 | Otixa | But I don't want a framework >;/ |
| 07:04.51 | Thunder_Child | like i said, you might *have to* |
| 07:04.58 | Thunder_Child | i have no idea |
| 07:05.52 | Otixa | ;< |
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| 07:11.45 | MentalPower | Otixa: you have to |
| 07:11.54 | MentalPower | there's no "magic function" to do it |
| 07:12.16 | Otixa | Obviously |
| 07:12.18 | MentalPower | the simplest addon to do that is Astrolabe |
| 07:12.52 | Otixa | Bleh |
| 07:12.54 | MentalPower | the reason its not simple is because each zone's size relative to the minimap is different |
| 07:13.00 | Otixa | I'll just write something else instead... ;/ |
| 07:13.38 | MentalPower | and that relationship has to be derived via some rather interesting math and clever methods |
| 07:14.02 | MentalPower | you really should not write your own, Astrolabe is already proven and stable |
| 07:14.30 | Otixa | Yeah, but where's the fun in using other people's code? :/ |
| 07:14.56 | NightHawkTheSane | making your own project work sooner? :p |
| 07:15.03 | MentalPower | what's the fun in writing a rather complex framework that only you will use when there are viable alternatives? |
| 07:15.21 | Otixa | Bleh, I s'pose you have a point |
| 07:15.27 | Otixa | Thanks |
| 07:16.34 | Shirik|Ecole | sweet! |
| 07:16.46 | Shirik|Ecole | It.... kinda boots now |
| 07:16.53 | Shirik|Ecole | It puts what appears to be static on the screen |
| 07:16.58 | MentalPower | Otixa: http://wiki.esamynn.org/Astrolabe |
| 07:17.22 | Otixa | Stop breaking it |
| 07:17.39 | Shirik|Ecole | I have no idea what I'm doing wrong :( |
| 07:17.50 | Shirik|Ecole | I think the real problem is I have no idea how to make a boot image, only the bootable program |
| 07:17.53 | MentalPower | Otixa: /join #Astrolabe |
| 07:17.57 | NightHawkTheSane | im going to go with "being shirik" |
| 07:18.45 | Shirik|Ecole | All the documentation I can find on creating a bootable image requires an actual floppy drive :( |
| 07:19.43 | Otixa | I think there's an xkcd for this... |
| 07:20.12 | NightHawkTheSane | i think there's an xkcd for your MOM |
| 07:20.38 | Otixa | That's what she said |
| 07:21.27 | NightHawkTheSane | yes. yes it is. |
| 07:25.12 | Shirik|Ecole | $ file ./test |
| 07:25.13 | Shirik|Ecole | ./test: x86 boot sector |
| 07:25.18 | Shirik|Ecole | So I know at least the compiled file is correct (I think) |
| 07:28.10 | Otixa | Shirik|Ecole, http://xkcd.com/349/ |
| 07:28.14 | Otixa | ^ You |
| 07:28.32 | Shirik|Ecole | yes pretty much :( |
| 07:28.59 | Shirik|Ecole | except I haven't broken anything except my VM |
| 07:29.03 | Shirik|Ecole | and my VM didn't have anything on it |
| 07:29.05 | Thunder_Child | yet |
| 07:29.10 | Otixa | ^ |
| 07:30.07 | Otixa | Addons VS Toxia |
| 07:30.14 | Otixa | Or addons FOR Toxia |
| 07:30.18 | Otixa | ...Hmm... |
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| 08:06.15 | Shirik|Ecole | omg |
| 08:06.15 | Shirik|Ecole | it finally works |
| 08:06.15 | Shirik|Ecole | I can go to sleep in peace now |
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| 08:07.58 | Thunder_Child | Shirik|Ecole, would it bother you to know that wowiupdater abuses my cpu? |
| 08:08.22 | Shirik|Ecole | not really, because I know there is a lot wrong with that program, which is why it's being rewritten |
| 08:08.53 | Thunder_Child | see, thats what you get for not writing it like the new one in the first place... XD |
| 08:08.58 | Thrae | Make it Sex-Core aware! |
| 08:10.53 | Shirik|Ecole | I know, when it was written I followed very bad design practices |
| 08:10.59 | Shirik|Ecole | I have learned from my mistakes and hopefully won't make them again |
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| 10:02.15 | clad|sleep | Wobin: yes it does, or should |
| 10:03.28 | Wobin | ah, hm, probably not mouse active, so harder to pick up |
| 10:05.43 | cladhaire | its not mouse active, no |
| 10:05.46 | cladhaire | will be tho |
| 10:05.49 | cladhaire | working out the kinks |
| 10:05.50 | cladhaire | :P |
| 10:05.54 | cladhaire | any other feedback? |
| 10:07.14 | cladhaire | Just finished the refactoring that will allow a bottom bar as well |
| 10:13.54 | cladhaire | k k |
| 10:14.19 | Fisker- | wroom wroom |
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| 10:52.56 | Wobin | cladhaire: nah, I was just wanting to stick my xparkybar on the bottom of it =) |
| 10:53.10 | cladhaire | that'll be easier in the new version |
| 10:53.19 | cladhaire | if you shoot whatever you have my way I''ll put it in the core :P |
| 10:54.04 | Wobin | Oh, no issue with the coding really, Xparky just uses mouse active frames to pick the name to attach to |
| 10:54.31 | Wobin | It can be attached, they just have to know the name of the frame |
| 10:55.35 | Wobin | And since it's called "NinjaPanel" it's not that hard to figure out =) |
| 10:55.51 | cladhaire | it'll be NinjaPanelTop or NinjaPanelBottom in the next |
| 10:55.52 | cladhaire | but yeah :P |
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| 11:06.34 | Fisker- | ~seen Cairenn |
| 11:06.48 | purl | cairenn is currently on #waruidev (9h 2m 16s) #wowuidev (9h 2m 16s) #wowace (9h 2m 16s) #wowwiki (9h 2m 16s), last said: 'now, if that were baileys, or vodka or rum, or ...'. |
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| 11:15.10 | nevcairiel | Wobin does the new xparky work now actually or do you use the old one? =P |
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| 11:15.31 | Wobin | I'm using the old one =P |
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| 11:31.26 | cladhaire | So you know what really bothers me |
| 11:31.32 | cladhaire | when people call their own work "elegant" |
| 11:31.46 | cladhaire | like wtf |
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| 11:41.33 | Cidan | why does that bother you? |
| 11:42.07 | cladhaire | because, who are we to judge whether our own code is elegant or not? |
| 11:42.32 | Cidan | Uhm, we're us. |
| 11:42.38 | cladhaire | that's not really a quantifiable measure. |
| 11:42.52 | Cidan | And whom are you to judge that? ;P |
| 11:42.52 | Cidan | man |
| 11:42.54 | Cidan | 7 am |
| 11:42.55 | Cidan | bed time |
| 11:42.56 | Cidan | =D |
| 11:47.55 | cladhaire | I guess I just think its a nonsense word that doesn't really mean anything |
| 11:48.03 | cladhaire | so its own purpose is to toot the person's horn, which I don't like =/ |
| 11:48.19 | cladhaire | ah well, i'm fully aware that i'm weird |
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| 11:52.12 | Wobin | well.. |
| 11:52.19 | Wobin | Elegance is a personal opinion |
| 11:52.34 | Wobin | You can't say you've never written code that you look at and you're damn proud of? |
| 11:52.47 | Wobin | hopefully that code would have an element of elegance in it |
| 11:52.58 | cladhaire | yes, but I would not describe it as elegent |
| 11:53.01 | cladhaire | because I'm not that pompous |
| 11:53.03 | Wobin | It's neat, it does the job effectively |
| 11:53.08 | Wobin | It's just another descriptive term =P |
| 11:53.18 | cladhaire | no its not, thats my point |
| 11:53.22 | cladhaire | its meaningless |
| 11:53.30 | cladhaire | simple, neat, does job effectively, novel solution |
| 11:53.32 | cladhaire | those all mean something :P |
| 11:53.38 | cladhaire | to another person |
| 11:54.07 | cladhaire | me describing my software as "elegant" doesn't tell you anything about it other than the fact that I think it's "elegant" in some way |
| 11:54.33 | cladhaire | "my software <blah>, a novel approach to <application type here>" |
| 11:54.35 | cladhaire | as opposed to |
| 11:54.44 | cladhaire | "my software <blah>, a simple elegant <application type here>" |
| 11:54.53 | cladhaire | its just a nit-picky thing, but I don't like it |
| 11:54.53 | cladhaire | :P |
| 11:56.04 | cladhaire | I don't object to the use of simple there, because it means something to me.. either simple (code-wise) or simple (easy-to-use) |
| 11:56.06 | Wobin | novel is also an opinionated word =) |
| 11:56.15 | cladhaire | no, not really |
| 11:56.37 | cladhaire | of a new kind; different from anything seen or known before: a novel idea. |
| 11:56.39 | cladhaire | that's clearly defined |
| 11:58.55 | cladhaire | meh, perhaps I'm just too picky P |
| 11:59.01 | Wobin | That however is also a personal opinion. Novel would imply that it's somewhat unique and clever. |
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| 11:59.37 | Wobin | I think you're too picky =) |
| 12:00.09 | cladhaire | well, being in a field where novel solutions are required and peer reviewed, I do not consider novel to be an opinion of the person who wrote the solution |
| 12:00.30 | cladhaire | and someone describing someone else's work as novel elegant, sure that's great! |
| 12:00.50 | cladhaire | I prefer when people are describing their software to tell me what it does and how, not give me bullshit marketing propaganda |
| 12:00.53 | cladhaire | that just makes me not want to use it :P |
| 12:01.27 | Wobin | Oh naturally. |
| 12:01.45 | cladhaire | I strive to be humble, perhaps I should not hold the same expectation for other people |
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| 12:04.22 | Wobin | holding expectations like that does not mix with humbleness well =) |
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| 12:08.11 | cladhaire | woot |
| 12:08.13 | cladhaire | just looted 100g |
| 12:08.19 | cladhaire | well, got the 100g looted achievement :P |
| 12:08.30 | cladhaire | too bad it took me until level 65 |
| 12:10.18 | nevcairiel | i'm 78 now and only up to 380g on the second achievement |
| 12:10.25 | nevcairiel | need more gold drops |
| 12:12.06 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 12:12.10 | cladhaire | well this is a recruit-a-friend account |
| 12:12.18 | cladhaire | so i hardly looted anything from 1-60 |
| 12:12.26 | cladhaire | s/account/toon/ |
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| 12:16.41 | cladhaire | I just had four clearcasting procs in a row |
| 12:16.41 | nevcairiel | I'm a DK, i started at 55 |
| 12:16.43 | nevcairiel | so same deal |
| 12:16.55 | cladhaire | ah nice :P |
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| 12:21.01 | Wobin | grumblegrumble The Gods Have Spoken grumble |
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| 12:21.43 | Wobin | takes so long to solo =( |
| 12:21.57 | Wobin | although without diminishing returns, DKs can kite forevah |
| 12:30.54 | Fisker- | They should change the requirements for making death knights |
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| 12:33.07 | Fisker- | Change them to requiring a level 55 death knight before you can create one |
| 12:33.07 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 12:40.13 | Olorin | can anyone recommend a good minimap thats square and preferebly allows the minimap icons to be rearranged ? |
| 12:41.20 | cbreak | CreateFrame("Minimap", ...) not enough? |
| 12:41.30 | cbreak | maybe you can change the instance that's already active |
| 12:41.37 | cbreak | (probably a better Idea) |
| 12:41.45 | mikma | imho, sarifice a character to create dk |
| 12:42.03 | Wobin | pft Fisker, just cause you suck. |
| 12:42.04 | cbreak | I had to do that mikma |
| 12:42.05 | mikma | "change this character into death knight" |
| 12:42.10 | Wobin | (and quite well, I hear) |
| 12:42.24 | Wobin | I'd've been happy to do that |
| 12:42.44 | Wobin | Anyway, that wouldn't solve the OP of the DK |
| 12:42.52 | Wobin | it'd only lessen the number of useless DKs |
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| 12:43.42 | Adys | wouldnt |
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| 12:43.44 | Adys | most of the really useless ones dont get to 80 |
| 12:43.48 | Olorin | cbreak, quite possibly but ive not really looked into it, theres a lot of tallented programmers here and I dont believe in re-inventing the wheel lol |
| 12:44.09 | Wobin | Adys: If you had to grind from level 1, that'd filter out a lot of noobs |
| 12:44.09 | Adys | and if they do, they do 2 bgs, figure out they suck, and go back to their main |
| 12:44.23 | Adys | honestly? |
| 12:44.25 | Adys | it wouldnt |
| 12:44.26 | Wobin | although, it never did that for hunters |
| 12:44.36 | Wobin | Adys: Compared to the number of new dks now? Yes. |
| 12:44.55 | Wobin | Not talking about 80s |
| 12:44.56 | Adys | I dont see half of the DKs I was seeing about 3 weeks ago |
| 12:45.06 | Wobin | For which I'm thankful =P |
| 12:45.10 | Adys | why do you care about 79- ? |
| 12:45.13 | cbreak | I made a DK because the starting area quests are fun. |
| 12:45.20 | Wobin | Cause... I'm not 80 yet? |
| 12:45.21 | cbreak | unlikely she'll ever reach 60 |
| 12:45.32 | Adys | why do you care about death knight population then :P |
| 12:45.38 | Wobin | I don't |
| 12:45.40 | Adys | its only annoying in bgs |
| 12:45.46 | Wobin | I'm only responding to Fisker's idea |
| 12:45.57 | Adys | why don't you have him in ignore |
| 12:45.58 | Wobin | Go. Read up =P |
| 12:46.13 | Wobin | He's not worth the effort of typing it out |
| 12:46.17 | Olorin | persoanlly I only have one issue with DK's, "Many" not all are very arrogant when it comes to, oh we dont need healer... sod anyone else in group that cant at least partially self heal lol |
| 12:46.30 | Wobin | pft, I tank. I need heals tnks |
| 12:46.38 | Wobin | s/tnks/thx/ |
| 12:47.18 | Adys | personally I only have one issue with wow players, "Many" not all are total idiots |
| 12:47.55 | Adys | which eventually results into being an arrogant like you describe, but also and maybe even additionally, a lootwhore, a drama queen, a whiner, ... |
| 12:48.00 | Olorin | yesterday i joind group to do ring of blood, dk says we ok we have higher lvls and im tanking.... uh huh, joined group 2 were dead and running back... first mob they wiped.. i watched my agro on warlock so didnt lol after second attempt at first mob i left lol |
| 12:48.21 | Wobin | I once did a 5 dk ramparts run |
| 12:48.25 | Wobin | That was entertaining |
| 12:48.29 | Wobin | in a Benny Hill sort of way |
| 12:48.40 | Olorin | hehe |
| 12:48.53 | Wobin | We -were- remarkably resilient in regards to healing |
| 12:48.55 | Fisker- | i did one before you >* |
| 12:48.59 | Fisker- | :( |
| 12:49.03 | Adys | no one cares Fisker- |
| 12:49.04 | Wobin | and ghouling upon death |
| 12:49.31 | Wobin | so we had the dps there |
| 12:49.31 | Wobin | but there was a lot of running back from corpses =) |
| 12:49.31 | Fisker- | ghouls are for gimps |
| 12:49.31 | Fisker- | 5xBlood |
| 12:49.32 | Fisker- | though of course that was only relevant with the old blood aura and dnd :D |
| 12:49.34 | Wobin | Fisker-: yeah, and you take 5x longer |
| 12:49.59 | Fisker- | nah 5xblood in beta = invincible |
| 12:50.01 | Wobin | I might switch to blood once the changes are out |
| 12:50.04 | mikma | dk's arent OP, they are in the same spot than paladins |
| 12:50.26 | Wobin | I'm collecting 8-10 mobs of the same (maybe +1) level |
| 12:50.34 | Olorin | they seem fun but i'll wait till patch so dont get used to it way they are |
| 12:50.42 | Wobin | and finishing in a state where I can grab the next 10 |
| 12:50.45 | Wobin | with no downtime |
| 12:50.54 | Wobin | pallies have mana downtime at least =) |
| 12:51.07 | mikma | and have you seen paladins at lvl70 mass-soloing the mobs outside bt? |
| 12:51.11 | Wobin | and ffs, what's with my connection nowadays? |
| 12:51.32 | Wobin | I'm kinda glad I'm not instancing at this time of night |
| 12:51.44 | Wobin | cause 2k latency and disconnects is ridiculous |
| 12:51.55 | mikma | they were able to take 30 mobs on then =/ |
| 12:52.12 | Fisker- | that's only prot that are able to do that |
| 12:52.28 | Wobin | all DK specs are pretty hardy |
| 12:52.35 | Olorin | is their a particular point at which mages really dont have to med after every /every other fight, mine only 19 and havnt really grouped with any |
| 12:52.48 | Wobin | Olorin: That's why you get free water =P |
| 12:53.04 | cladhaire | can mages use maces? |
| 12:53.11 | Wobin | I don't thnk so |
| 12:53.19 | Fisker- | they can't |
| 12:53.20 | cladhaire | me neither, so i passed on it |
| 12:53.22 | Wobin | daggers, staves swords |
| 12:53.23 | mikma | i cant remember |
| 12:53.30 | cbreak | we can sell maces. |
| 12:53.39 | Olorin | well true I guess, just spoilt to my pally where if carefull he can generate mana to keep fighting one mob after another if get adds |
| 12:53.54 | Wobin | I -love- not being mana dependant |
| 12:53.56 | cbreak | I use mage armor |
| 12:53.59 | Wobin | or really rage dependant |
| 12:54.06 | cbreak | so I can chain pull solo kill mobs almost without downtime |
| 12:54.15 | Wobin | being rune dependant is nice and predictable |
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| 12:54.53 | Wobin | and with upcoming changes, like Horn of Winter, that's even less RP we need to generate and spend a gcd on |
| 12:55.22 | mikma | wobin: thing i noticed in instances is if the mob aint hitting you, you usually have to wait quite long to get skills from cd |
| 12:55.22 | cladhaire | Wobin: i quite enjoy undead for that reason |
| 12:55.34 | nevcairiel | I'm planning on playing undead tank |
| 12:55.43 | nevcairiel | been levelign undead all up until now |
| 12:55.43 | mikma | unholy <3 |
| 12:55.47 | nevcairiel | er |
| 12:55.51 | nevcairiel | undead = unholy |
| 12:55.55 | nevcairiel | damn you confusions! |
| 12:55.58 | Olorin | guess ill stick with mage a while longer then, made a priest but he hard work lol , had one to 35 before but this one being a pain, time to go clothes shopping lol |
| 12:56.48 | Wobin | mikma: how do you mean, ie, not having Rune Strike? |
| 12:57.59 | nevcairiel | i macro'ed runestrike into all my other abilities |
| 12:58.09 | Wobin | it's a nice RD |
| 12:58.14 | Wobin | rpd |
| 12:58.31 | Wobin | it doesn't have a gcd, does it? |
| 12:58.36 | nevcairiel | no |
| 12:58.37 | nevcairiel | its next-swing |
| 12:58.42 | nevcairiel | thats why i can macro it .) |
| 12:58.47 | Wobin | <mrburns>eeexxcellent</mrburns> |
| 12:59.34 | mikma | wobin: well if you are not getting hit, rune strike wont come up |
| 12:59.38 | Wobin | yeah |
| 12:59.48 | Wobin | but it's not really -in- a normal rotation |
| 12:59.52 | Wobin | it's just -there- on next hit |
| 13:00.12 | mikma | yea but the mobs *die* in the normal rotation =D |
| 13:00.18 | mikma | in instance they wont |
| 13:00.27 | Wobin | I occasionally have a short fraction of a while in the initial rotations where I can't fill in a gap with a RPD |
| 13:00.51 | mikma | so in instances, thece can be long pauses in abilities because of cd |
| 13:00.55 | Wobin | after that, it's refreshing the diseases every second rotation |
| 13:01.35 | Wobin | I've usually had no issue maintaining a relatively continuous chain of rotations |
| 13:01.47 | Wobin | by feeding in deathcoils if there's a gap |
| 13:02.01 | Wobin | or unholy blight if it's down |
| 13:02.23 | Wobin | but then again, I've not dps'd in an instance for a while |
| 13:02.27 | Wobin | I'll have to give it a go |
| 13:03.04 | mikma | wobin: try it, it's fun =) |
| 13:03.13 | Wobin | I actually enjoy tanking =P |
| 13:03.20 | Wobin | (I never thought I'd say that) |
| 13:03.35 | Wobin | previous to this, I've never played a tanking character |
| 13:03.35 | mikma | i would enjoy it also if i would have the gear |
| 13:03.37 | cladhaire | so we're in slave pens |
| 13:03.38 | cladhaire | last boss |
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| 13:03.42 | cladhaire | he disappeared before we could pull him |
| 13:03.50 | Wobin | Black stalker? |
| 13:03.55 | mikma | soloing 5man elite quests give me a feeling it might be fun |
| 13:04.08 | Wobin | mikma: get crafted gear |
| 13:04.15 | Wobin | saronite armour |
| 13:04.20 | cladhaire | he can put us into combat.. and he can kill us |
| 13:04.27 | cladhaire | but we can't see or targer him |
| 13:04.31 | Wobin | but he's not in the room? O.o |
| 13:04.32 | mikma | wobin: i got these daunting -gear or so |
| 13:04.44 | mikma | wobin: and doing heroics to get more gear |
| 13:05.09 | Wobin | although. |
| 13:05.12 | Wobin | With DK dps |
| 13:05.15 | mikma | got the epic tankpants from VH couple of days ago <3 |
| 13:05.17 | Wobin | What stats am I after? |
| 13:05.23 | Wobin | crit? |
| 13:05.30 | mikma | hit, crit? |
| 13:05.32 | Wobin | hit/crit/? |
| 13:05.48 | Wobin | armour penetration is more pvp, isn't it? |
| 13:05.55 | mikma | think so |
| 13:05.59 | Wobin | haste? |
| 13:06.04 | cladhaire | Wobin: he is, he's just invisible... or something like it. |
| 13:06.11 | mikma | agility, hit, crit, sta, str |
| 13:06.12 | Wobin | cladhaire: freaky |
| 13:06.18 | Wobin | agility?! |
| 13:06.19 | mikma | i am going after those |
| 13:06.33 | mikma | agility grants something good |
| 13:06.35 | Wobin | doesn't str offer better AP conversions? |
| 13:06.43 | mikma | cant remember what.. most likely armor |
| 13:06.51 | Wobin | nooo |
| 13:06.53 | Wobin | surely not |
| 13:06.56 | mikma | lessee |
| 13:07.10 | Wobin | granted, I've yet to see much plate with agility on it |
| 13:07.11 | cladhaire | str is better for dk, i thought |
| 13:07.27 | mikma | yes it is |
| 13:07.49 | mikma | but if the gear has agi in it, (addition to sta and str), i will use it =) |
| 13:09.20 | nevcairiel | a certain amount of armor-pen is good for PvE too, bosses have armor ;) |
| 13:10.10 | Wobin | nevcairiel: I guess I need some goal posts to aim for in regards to dps stats |
| 13:10.11 | mikma | ok now |
| 13:10.19 | mikma | lets see about the agi |
| 13:10.24 | Wobin | I know what they are (mostly) for tanking, but not dps |
| 13:12.57 | mikma | http://deathknight.info/2008/12/new-sigils-addes-in-308/ |
| 13:14.05 | mikma | wobin: 1 point of agility = 2 armor, and increased Dodge and crit (see below) |
| 13:14.16 | mikma | http://deathknight.info/wiki/index.php?title=Mechanics |
| 13:16.21 | Wobin | hm, 294 hr |
| 13:16.47 | mikma | wobin: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=j0EZ0xZfg0h0fogcq0fsut <- 2/2 pet avoidance :I |
| 13:16.55 | mikma | might try that in 3.0.8 for instances |
| 13:17.40 | mikma | or if i will start tanking, 3/3 Outbreak and -1 MoG and 2 NotD |
| 13:17.49 | mikma | -2 NotD that is, not 2 |
| 13:18.12 | Wobin | so we're not sure how agility ties into our dodge |
| 13:18.27 | mikma | apparently |
| 13:18.37 | mikma | or wait a moment |
| 13:18.42 | mikma | need to start me game to confirm it |
| 13:20.34 | Wobin | oh, I -like- http://deathknight.info/wiki/index.php?title=Regular_5_Man_Instance_Tank_Gear |
| 13:21.26 | mikma | wobin: +36 agility == +0.58% Crit, +0.49% Dodge, +72 Armor |
| 13:22.00 | Wobin | ~49/36 |
| 13:22.18 | purl | 1.361111111111 |
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| 13:22.41 | Wobin | so, 0.014% per agi at ... (80?) |
| 13:22.49 | mikma | 80 yes |
| 13:23.26 | mikma | the armor boost is nothing but a plus in my spec :D |
| 13:24.01 | mikma | 14853 armor without buffs in blood presence |
| 13:24.14 | mikma | 23528 in frost :) |
| 13:24.25 | Wobin | shiny |
| 13:24.26 | mikma | and after patch, 20% more, yey. |
| 13:24.50 | Wobin | rofl |
| 13:24.50 | Wobin | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Proudmoore&n=snuusnu |
| 13:24.57 | Wobin | I've apparently levelled without noticing =P |
| 13:25.01 | Fisker- | your name is bad and you should feel bad |
| 13:25.04 | Wobin | Cause I could have sworn I logged off as a 77 |
| 13:25.19 | Wobin | Coming from a person named Fisker? I'm going to disregard that advice entirely. |
| 13:25.31 | Fisker- | :( |
| 13:25.38 | mikma | please do so, he is 100% fail. |
| 13:25.39 | Fisker- | atleast it's not Fister |
| 13:25.47 | Wobin | You're one letter off |
| 13:26.30 | mikma | wobin: so, fun fun macro! |
| 13:26.52 | Wobin | hm, I could have sworn I had more health/armour than that |
| 13:27.36 | Wobin | damn the armoury for not showing frost presence =P |
| 13:27.49 | Wobin | lets see if I can log in |
| 13:27.57 | Olorin | gotta love quest in borean tundra, jump off boat to recover what the captain wants then boat goes off without ya lol |
| 13:28.06 | mikma | wobin: /castsequence Blood Presence, Frost Presence, Unholy Presence |
| 13:28.26 | mikma | wobin: spam spam spam everytime GCD flash has gone away from the button :D |
| 13:28.26 | Wobin | mikma: pft. Opie it |
| 13:28.30 | mikma | people will go mad |
| 13:28.38 | Wobin | hehe |
| 13:28.50 | Wobin | at least it doesn't have the *clang* from warrrior stances |
| 13:29.05 | mikma | but it's still quite annoying for others if you spam it :D |
| 13:29.32 | mikma | *POOF*POOF*POOF*POOF*POOF*POOF* |
| 13:30.30 | Fisker- | Not as annoying as a toy train set on the 4 horsemen chest though |
| 13:30.34 | Fisker- | in 25-man |
| 13:30.48 | mikma | it's the most epic item in the game atm |
| 13:30.56 | Wobin | I guess I can't |
| 13:31.06 | Wobin | well |
| 13:31.09 | Wobin | Equal epic |
| 13:31.14 | Wobin | to the Super Simian Sphere |
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| 13:31.57 | Wobin | The next time Blizzard screws up with arena vendors giving away free crap |
| 13:32.06 | Wobin | we should go in and lay down a series of toy trains |
| 13:32.15 | mikma | hah |
| 13:32.36 | Fisker- | I think they should ban everyone who buy the free stuff |
| 13:33.15 | Wobin | or have a flag on the item |
| 13:33.23 | Wobin | as soon as they get hit, it reduces it to 0 durability |
| 13:33.27 | mikma | wobin: did you see, i was lazy and coded myself some huge reminders about my own diseases on target |
| 13:33.37 | Wobin | mikma: nope, what's it called? |
| 13:33.57 | mikma | nothing yet, haven't think of a name, and don't think i will release it anywhere else than in wowi svn |
| 13:34.10 | mikma | wobin: http://wow.reaktio.net/test/WoWScrnShot_121208_051024.jpg |
| 13:34.24 | mikma | they aren't that huge anymore since now they get the uiparent scale |
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| 13:36.02 | Fisker- | why must i be so bald? |
| 13:37.44 | mikma | gah, i always forget that one good site that shows what's good gear for each class |
| 13:37.54 | mikma | lootlink.com, no. lootlist.com, no. |
| 13:38.16 | foxlit | Figure out what you want and search an item db site? |
| 13:38.39 | Wobin | heh, I just have dotimer bars |
| 13:38.46 | Wobin | If there's not three, I'm missing a disease |
| 13:39.16 | mikma | i didn't want to install it just because of those two debuffs, so i made my own :) |
| 13:39.20 | nevcairiel | lootrank.com @ mikma :P |
| 13:39.22 | foxlit | mikma: holy crappy texture quality! |
| 13:39.36 | mikma | nevcairiel: thanks baby |
| 13:39.42 | mikma | foxlit: aye, i play on low quality |
| 13:39.57 | Wobin | I use it cause it shows all in combat mobs disease status |
| 13:40.02 | mikma | i've used to it since my pc can't handle better gfx :( |
| 13:40.07 | Wobin | so I know "Ohshit, an add, better pestilence when I can" |
| 13:40.27 | nevcairiel | thats a lot of bars on trash pulls |
| 13:40.33 | Wobin | yeah, that's the only problem |
| 13:40.49 | mikma | i'm thinking about creating 4 bars |
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| 13:41.12 | mikma | 1) Blood Plague, 2) Frost Fever, 3) Bone Armor 4) Horn of the Winter |
| 13:42.28 | mikma | wobin: http://tinyurl.com/dktank1 |
| 13:42.53 | mikma | wobin: http://tinyurl.com/dkpve1 |
| 13:43.56 | Wobin | I think I'll go get the tempered saronite set made |
| 13:44.17 | Wobin | eee |
| 13:44.20 | Wobin | 148 saronite ore |
| 13:45.05 | Wobin | ok, so I'm not selling my saronite ore anytime soon |
| 13:45.16 | mikma | http://tinyurl.com/dkpve2 there's stuff without 10-25 man drops etc |
| 13:45.17 | Wobin | which means I need to grind more cobalt =P |
| 13:45.17 | foxlit | Saronite grows on trees. |
| 13:45.32 | Wobin | foxlit: I'm trying to save for epic flying =) |
| 13:45.58 | Wobin | but yeah, saronite appears actually cheaper than cobalt atm |
| 13:46.05 | Wobin | I think someone's flooding the market |
| 13:47.22 | foxlit | Saronite is everywhere, Cobalt is annoyingly scarce. |
| 13:48.14 | nevcairiel | cobalt is also rather useless |
| 13:48.29 | Wobin | well.. not for grinding up to saronite =) |
| 13:48.29 | foxlit | Not if you're leveling BS :) |
| 13:48.33 | nevcairiel | like fel iron, wtf did you need fel iron for |
| 13:48.39 | Wobin | Bolts! |
| 13:48.51 | foxlit | Reins of the Traveler's Tundra Mammonth: 1600g2c |
| 13:48.58 | foxlit | Halp, I'm 2c short. Donate today! |
| 13:49.02 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 14:13.27 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/ilmeella61.jpg |
| 14:14.51 | Wobin | ...ow |
| 14:17.44 | mikma | dear jebus, i'm in love again! http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars/4262351.html |
| 14:17.51 | Wobin | well the tempered saronite scores well in that list |
| 14:20.08 | Wobin | hm, that mpg is very nice, on that car |
| 14:20.40 | Wobin | I don't think it'll be easy to find here, though =P |
| 14:21.58 | mikma | wobin: see the license-plate |
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| 14:29.00 | mikma | wobin: can you see this image? http://clownstep.irc-galleria.net/j/images22/00/02/86/55/55319194.jpg?h=e0e923413062bc40bb890f6258adb4aa9453effc&t=1229802881 |
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| 14:29.51 | nevcairiel | people should get a real car before they start tuning |
| 14:30.27 | mikma | yeah, that's why i bought that with my own money back in 1998 |
| 14:31.37 | Wobin | what's that, Mik? |
| 14:32.20 | mikma | Volkswagen Polo 6N, my ex car :( |
| 14:36.45 | mikma | The Iron Boot Flask now costs 250 Relic of Ulduar, you might want to buy yours now just in case... |
| 14:37.14 | Adys | they prolly upped the droprate tons |
| 14:38.10 | mikma | You can now use Relic of Ulduar to level your reputation with the Sons of Hodir. Hodir's Tribute is a repeatable quest and will give you 250 (275 as a human) reputation for each turn-in. |
| 14:38.54 | Wobin | arghgh |
| 14:39.01 | Wobin | No -wonder- all these calcs are skewed |
| 14:39.15 | Wobin | I logged out (or was logged out with) my crappy dps gear worn |
| 14:40.15 | mikma | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/december/newsigils308.jpg <- need to buy the IT and SS :I |
| 14:40.53 | zenzelezz | I'm not going to tell our paladins how to spec, but I hate looking at my Greater Blessing of Kings and seeing the "2%" tooltip |
| 14:41.00 | Wobin | hm... |
| 14:41.09 | Wobin | can we swap these sigils out in combat? |
| 14:41.13 | Wobin | like druid relics... |
| 14:41.17 | Adys | zenzelezz: the tooltip doesnt get modified |
| 14:41.31 | Wobin | and goddamnit, no -wonder- I was having so much trouble soloing those quests with this crappy armour on |
| 14:41.48 | zenzelezz | Adys: I was certain it used to say 10% when they had the talented one? |
| 14:42.01 | Adys | it used to because there was only one talent rank before |
| 14:42.39 | zenzelezz | oh, so it's a new display issue only? That's good to know |
| 14:44.33 | Wobin | mmm |
| 14:44.36 | Wobin | 2.5k latency |
| 14:44.40 | Wobin | hm |
| 14:45.57 | Wobin | nope, not shaped |
| 14:49.32 | zenzelezz | so a while ago I bought a stack of Nerubian Chitin on my main, to make a quiver for my alt. Then I discovered I couldn't find the stack. Look all over my bags and bank, same on the alt, no sign of it anywhere. Today I discover them in my mailbox |
| 14:55.40 | mikma | woooo |
| 14:55.48 | mikma | New epic rewards have been added to Lake Wintergrasp, they can be bought with Wintergrasp Mark of Honor. |
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| 14:58.45 | mikma | Glyph of Rune Strike - Increases the critical strike chance of your Rune Strike by 10%. (No longer increases runic power cost) :D |
| 14:59.02 | mikma | Glyph of the Ghoul - Your Ghoul receives an additional 40% of your Strength and 40% of your Stamina. (Old - Your Ghoul receives an additional 20% of your Strength. :D |
| 14:59.07 | mikma | lots of love |
| 14:59.14 | mikma | aka, another version of "lol" |
| 15:00.30 | mikma | damn, death grip glyph <3 |
| 15:00.47 | [dRaCo] | I wonder if DKs really needed buffs |
| 15:01.10 | mikma | well these are more like fixs for annoying stuff |
| 15:01.46 | mikma | wobin: in case you haven't checked out: http://www.mmo-champion.com/ -> see dk changes :) |
| 15:04.04 | Wobin | zomg |
| 15:04.04 | Wobin | Glyph of Death Grip - When you deal a killing blow that grants honor or experience, the cooldown of your Death Grip is refreshed. |
| 15:04.07 | Wobin | O.O |
| 15:04.16 | Wobin | farmalicious |
| 15:04.26 | mikma | aye :) |
| 15:04.30 | Wobin | with emphasis on the malicious =P |
| 15:04.47 | nevcairiel | hm thats indeed very nice |
| 15:05.27 | mikma | also see the glyph of raise dead |
| 15:07.24 | Wobin | We just didn't want players going cat or travel and racing around with Starfall hitting everything. It is an unusual spell since it requires no channeling and moves with you. We have to make it a little restrictive to solve some of these creative uses. |
| 15:07.25 | Wobin | heheh |
| 15:07.28 | Wobin | "Awwwww!" |
| 15:07.47 | Wobin | -best- farm tagging spell ever |
| 15:08.03 | Wobin | (also best pvp flying griefing spell ever) |
| 15:09.57 | Wobin | That's some nice fanart |
| 15:10.02 | Wobin | and on that note, goodnight |
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| 15:10.40 | Wobin | also, <3 new tanking rune |
| 15:10.56 | Wobin | that'll make it easier to hit defcap |
| 15:10.58 | mikma | ya |
| 15:11.16 | nevcairiel | the weapon rune rocks .) |
| 15:11.18 | mikma | now we need to have a dps weapon and tanknig weapon |
| 15:11.32 | nevcairiel | you could just re-enchant when you go grind =P |
| 15:11.40 | Wobin | well.. it's not too difficult to rerune before each instance |
| 15:11.42 | nevcairiel | not like it costs something |
| 15:12.05 | Wobin | most people are quite happy to resummon you if you want to do something that'll help the group overall |
| 15:12.07 | mikma | i know, but try to remember doing that :D |
| 15:12.13 | Wobin | truedat =) |
| 15:12.22 | mikma | need some kind of LDB block that you can change to remind shit |
| 15:12.35 | mikma | [ Grind ] / [ Instance ] |
| 15:12.41 | Wobin | god knows I've been running around in my dps gear trying to solo crap after a group =P |
| 15:12.52 | mikma | mouseovering tells you "remember to switch rune in weapon! remember to swap gear! noob!" |
| 15:12.52 | nevcairiel | i solo most of the shit in dps gear |
| 15:13.09 | Wobin | I was having no issue with most stuff |
| 15:13.17 | Wobin | it's just the 3 person group quests |
| 15:13.20 | nevcairiel | moar dps = more heal with death strike! |
| 15:13.28 | Wobin | in that troll zone |
| 15:13.38 | nevcairiel | the final quest? |
| 15:13.40 | Wobin | zuldrak? |
| 15:13.41 | Wobin | yeah |
| 15:13.50 | nevcairiel | i did that in dps gear on lvl78 just an hour ago |
| 15:13.53 | mikma | Nerubian Leg Armor in DPS pants, and Jormungar Leg Armor in tanking pants? |
| 15:13.59 | Wobin | not enough mitigation on my part at 77 |
| 15:14.01 | nevcairiel | AMS to drop the debuff, occasionally |
| 15:14.21 | Wobin | nevcairiel: Well this is with my -crappy- dps gear |
| 15:14.31 | Wobin | which amounts to quest gear that wasn't tanking gear =P |
| 15:14.35 | nevcairiel | I only have quest shit =P |
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| 15:14.47 | nevcairiel | like 2 blues from some group quests or so |
| 15:14.51 | Wobin | yeah, but there's some good dps gear |
| 15:14.53 | nevcairiel | whereas my tank gear is like full blue now |
| 15:15.00 | Wobin | which I passed over due to tanking considerations |
| 15:15.08 | mikma | i wonder what cladhaire ninjachanged in ninjapanel :D |
| 15:15.22 | mikma | beta1 has been raised high in the latest list ;) |
| 15:15.23 | nevcairiel | usually one quest doesnt give you plate tank and dps gear |
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| 15:15.26 | Wobin | also, this was also gear I just considered the crit rating on =) |
| 15:15.27 | mikma | no changelog! |
| 15:15.38 | Wobin | nothing more complex than that |
| 15:15.46 | nevcairiel | yeah strength and crit rating |
| 15:15.48 | nevcairiel | all you need! |
| 15:16.07 | Wobin | I should probably dps in my tanking gear |
| 15:16.08 | nevcairiel | although my stamina has been rising over the last level or so |
| 15:16.19 | nevcairiel | 13k in dps gear now |
| 15:16.20 | Wobin | save myself the effort =P |
| 15:16.44 | Wobin | nevcairiel: hp? |
| 15:16.47 | foxlit | Elegence UI, cladhaire? |
| 15:16.50 | nevcairiel | ya |
| 15:16.53 | Wobin | ah |
| 15:17.08 | nevcairiel | not 13k stamina |
| 15:17.10 | nevcairiel | i wish, though! |
| 15:17.17 | Wobin | so http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Proudmoore&n=snuusnu is my tanking gear =\ |
| 15:17.22 | Wobin | I need to get that saronite set, stat |
| 15:17.34 | nevcairiel | you stole mikmas char name? |
| 15:17.45 | Wobin | Not intentionally =) |
| 15:17.47 | mikma | na, we share |
| 15:17.54 | nevcairiel | man wobin, do the damn arena quest in Zuldrak |
| 15:17.56 | mikma | snu(u)snu for everyone! |
| 15:17.59 | nevcairiel | and get a real weapon |
| 15:18.01 | Wobin | I thought "Death Knight Snuusnu" had a nice ring to it |
| 15:18.08 | Wobin | nevcairiel: hm, I have that weapon |
| 15:18.12 | Wobin | I haven't updated my tanking set |
| 15:18.18 | Wobin | or runed it yet |
| 15:18.18 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 15:18.25 | foxlit | It's an axe. |
| 15:18.28 | foxlit | Urgh, axes! |
| 15:18.29 | Wobin | yeah |
| 15:18.32 | Wobin | alas |
| 15:18.35 | Wobin | well... |
| 15:18.41 | Wobin | I have no racial bonus on a weapon |
| 15:18.44 | Wobin | so it bothers me not =) |
| 15:18.59 | foxlit | I've been tanking heroics with the Ebon Blade rep sword. |
| 15:19.06 | nevcairiel | its nice too |
| 15:19.14 | nevcairiel | but revered, no? |
| 15:19.29 | mikma | ~wowbible |
| 15:19.30 | purl | i guess wowbible is http://wowprogramming.com/docs |
| 15:19.30 | foxlit | Yeah, had to wear their tabard for one or two runs. |
| 15:19.46 | mikma | oh man :I that's down for me :( |
| 15:19.55 | foxlit | Ebon Blade dailies provide 1.5k rep/day, you can get there relatively quickly. |
| 15:19.56 | nevcairiel | I want to get the titansteel destroyer, even though its a damn mace |
| 15:20.13 | nevcairiel | I didnt even unlock their dailys yet, though =P |
| 15:20.18 | foxlit | I'm annoyed there aren't more craftable 2H swords. |
| 15:20.41 | mikma | hmmmmrph :I |
| 15:20.51 | mikma | apparently there's no need to scan through buffs anymore |
| 15:21.04 | zenzelezz | oh? |
| 15:21.05 | mikma | UnitAura("player","Bone Shield") :I |
| 15:21.12 | zenzelezz | sweet! |
| 15:21.14 | mikma | that returns all the good stuff if you have it on |
| 15:21.16 | mikma | nil if not |
| 15:21.17 | nevcairiel | yeah if you only want to check for one, thats possible |
| 15:22.32 | Wobin | cycling through them, however...? |
| 15:22.55 | Wobin | ie, only useful if you're after specific buffs |
| 15:23.09 | zenzelezz | obviously |
| 15:23.16 | nevcairiel | still nice for alot of stuff |
| 15:23.27 | mikma | if UnitAura("player","Bone Shield") then print("YEY!") else print("poop") end |
| 15:23.28 | Wobin | certainly for what Mikma needs it for =) |
| 15:23.29 | mikma | lolo |
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| 15:27.57 | Wobin | night! |
| 15:28.20 | nevcairiel | night |
| 15:32.12 | Otixa | DirectX is evil ;c |
| 15:38.29 | haste | in the way that it isn't cross-platform at least |
| 15:39.36 | Fisker- | crossplatform needs to die |
| 15:39.45 | Fisker- | linux = software piracy |
| 15:41.41 | haste | anyway, what's the store that sells retro games? |
| 15:41.59 | cbreak | any store that sells mac ports of games... |
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| 15:44.52 | Fisker- | gog.com |
| 15:45.13 | Fisker- | remember i haste you hate |
| 15:45.16 | Fisker- | or hate you haste |
| 15:45.18 | Fisker- | can't remember how it is |
| 15:48.36 | haste | oh hey, that's the site! |
| 15:48.38 | haste | awesome Fisker- :D |
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| 15:52.37 | mikma | anyone happens to know how can i get the golden-thingy in a button cooldown (the one blizzard uses in debuffs etc) |
| 15:53.15 | Adys | golden-what? |
| 15:53.44 | mikma | well, put a debuff on target and you will see it :O |
| 15:56.53 | haste | mikma: it's called drawEdge in the XML templates, and we didn't ahve any Lua toggle if it when it was added |
| 15:57.10 | haste | mikma: that's probably fixed now however, but I don't know what the widget API would be called :p |
| 15:57.16 | mikma | haste: yeah :I well i wonder are there any way to enable it now with lua? |
| 15:57.29 | mikma | and you just answered :) |
| 15:58.50 | haste | /run for k,v in pairs(getmetatable(CreateFrame'Cooldown').__index)) do if(k:match'Edge') then print(k) end end |
| 15:59.05 | haste | unless they have called it something else on the lua side that is :p |
| 16:00.13 | mikma | i fail, getting an error |
| 16:00.25 | mikma | [18:00:20] [string "for k,v in pairs(getmetatable(CreateFrame'Cooldown').__index)) ..."]:1: 'do' expected near ')' |
| 16:00.29 | mikma | i should be able to fix that but no |
| 16:00.31 | mikma | need more coffee |
| 16:00.44 | mikma | oh, one ) too much |
| 16:00.58 | haste | guess I have too much coffee :p |
| 16:01.11 | haste | I hate writing one liners like that also :D |
| 16:01.28 | mikma | haste: well, it wasn't the ) :D what's missing there? |
| 16:03.54 | haste | )) -> ) and it should be correct |
| 16:05.41 | mikma | yeah... 0 |
| 16:12.29 | haste | remove the if, and read the output :p |
| 16:21.31 | mikma | err |
| 16:21.36 | mikma | how's the line after that one then? |
| 16:21.51 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:25.01 | mikma | hmm yeah, no edge anywhere |
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| 17:03.23 | abyx | how can i convert hex to decimal in lua? |
| 17:03.46 | abyx | i half expected tonumber() to convert hex for me... and it did so nevermind |
| 17:03.59 | Adys | :P |
| 17:04.40 | abyx | i hate when i answer my own questions within 10 seconds of asking them >_>... i was trying tonumber(FF) and realized that i need to "hexify" it and do tonumber(0xFF) |
| 17:05.18 | foxlit | lua> return tonumber("ff",16); |
| 17:05.20 | lua_bot | foxlit: 255 |
| 17:05.34 | abyx | that works too i suppose |
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| 17:27.02 | p3lim | haste: http://www.wowinterface.com/portal.php?id=137&a=viewfeature&featureid=3184 |
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| 17:57.23 | foxlit | "LF1M either healer or tank" << never too promising. |
| 17:58.00 | abyx | either? LOL |
| 17:58.09 | abyx | LF24M naxx pst |
| 17:58.24 | foxlit | I presume there's an enterprising paladin at work. |
| 17:58.35 | haste | p3lim: I have it written, but not commited |
| 17:58.59 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: or druid, i gues |
| 18:02.01 | Thunder_Child | "According to the study, 46 percent of women and 30 percent of men would opt to forgo sex for two weeks instead of giving up access to their precious Internet for the same period." |
| 18:08.15 | p3lim | haste: nice! |
| 18:08.31 | p3lim | im playing with the git version now, gonna leave bug reports (if i find any bugs) |
| 18:08.47 | p3lim | but :RegisterSubTypeMapping() is gone, what replaced it? |
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| 18:19.15 | Shirik|Ecole | ~ping |
| 18:19.16 | purl | ~pong |
| 18:21.28 | p3lim | haste: :RegisterSubTypeMapping() is gone, what replaced it? |
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| 18:27.39 | foxlit | ~pong |
| 18:27.40 | purl | ~ping |
| 18:28.00 | Tekkub | ~ding |
| 18:28.01 | purl | dong |
| 18:28.07 | Tekkub | ~ling |
| 18:33.43 | Stanzilla | long |
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| 18:34.17 | ccox | ~lung |
| 18:35.58 | mikma | lang |
| 18:38.10 | foxlit | Meh. Three wipes on _normal_ Loken. |
| 18:38.21 | NightHawkTheSane | ~fail foxlit |
| 18:38.22 | purl | foxlit, you Fail! |
| 18:38.30 | foxlit | Oh, not me. |
| 18:38.38 | foxlit | I lived to explode in a lonely, lonely room :( |
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| 18:41.17 | NightHawkTheSane | ~confort foxlit |
| 18:41.25 | NightHawkTheSane | ~comfort foxlit |
| 18:41.25 | purl | There, there, foxlit. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 18:41.38 | NightHawkTheSane | clearly, i have not had enough of my tasty, tasty fresh brewed coffee |
| 18:45.51 | mikma | wasn't there some sort of GUI for creating .xml for wow? |
| 18:48.00 | p3lim | mikma: VisualStudio had a plugin |
| 18:48.04 | p3lim | i belive |
| 18:48.15 | mikma | but didn't blizzard code one |
| 18:48.25 | p3lim | it did basic Lua |
| 18:48.36 | p3lim | dont think it had any API in it from blizzard |
| 18:49.15 | Iriel | they released a tool for creating small snippets of lua for certain elements |
| 18:49.33 | mikma | bah :I |
| 18:49.37 | Iriel | it was on www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ |
| 18:50.07 | mikma | thanks iriel. |
| 18:50.19 | mikma | now, anyone has any idea how to create a cooldown template with .xml? :D |
| 18:50.19 | Shirik|Ecole | wow, I just crashed command prompt. I win |
| 18:51.07 | NightHawkTheSane | random question: resto shaman, 7% crit vs 125mp/5, any opinions? |
| 18:51.18 | Shirik|Ecole | those are huge numbers |
| 18:51.26 | Iriel | Shirik|Ecole: If it's your command prompt, then you probably lose because you're using dodgy software |
| 18:51.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik|Ecole: it's basically "crit gear" vs "regen gear" |
| 18:51.42 | Shirik|Ecole | and that's really 125 mp5 not while not casting? |
| 18:51.48 | Shirik|Ecole | I'd go with the 125 then, that's significant |
| 18:51.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: no, that's 125 mana per five seconds |
| 18:51.53 | Shirik|Ecole | Iriel: It was a batch file >< |
| 18:51.55 | NightHawkTheSane | while casting. |
| 18:52.05 | Shirik|Ecole | with no external commands |
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| 18:52.35 | Shirik|Ecole | well there were external commands, but system ones |
| 18:53.06 | NightHawkTheSane | also, woah.. DK wing starting trash isn't tied to razuvious? >.> |
| 18:54.16 | Fisker- | i hate you blizzard |
| 18:54.19 | Fisker- | you are my mortal enemy |
| 18:54.26 | Shirik|Ecole | I only have 300 mp5 while casting, NightHawkTheSane, but I should also point out I have a significant amount of spirit |
| 18:54.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Fisker-: everyone is your mortal enemy |
| 18:54.38 | Shirik|Ecole | that being said, I also don't know how to play a resto shaman |
| 18:54.43 | Shirik|Ecole | but 125 is al ot |
| 18:55.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik|Ecole: yeah. the thing is, when LHW or HW crit, i get water shield procs (~500 mana) |
| 18:55.35 | Shirik|Ecole | ok, so that math should be fairly easy to work out :) What's the cast time on HW? |
| 18:55.35 | NightHawkTheSane | plus Ancestral Awakening (talent) procs, smart healing a raid member for 30% of the heal |
| 18:56.30 | NightHawkTheSane | HW is 2.1s, 1.5 with Tidal Waves, LHW is 1.3, .9 with Tidal waves. ;) |
| 18:56.44 | Shirik|Ecole | we analyze one thing at a time :) |
| 18:57.00 | Shirik|Ecole | lua> 5/2.1 * .07 * 500 |
| 18:57.01 | lua_bot | Shirik|Ecole: 83.333333333333 |
| 18:57.07 | NightHawkTheSane | (also, apologies for being slow today, it's 11 am, and im still tiiiired) |
| 18:57.11 | Shirik|Ecole | lua> 5/1.3 * .07 * 500 |
| 18:57.12 | lua_bot | Shirik|Ecole: 134.61538461538 |
| 18:57.23 | Shirik|Ecole | If you spam HW, you're looking at 83 mp5 with the 7% crit |
| 18:57.31 | Shirik|Ecole | If you spam LHW, you're looking at 135 mp5 |
| 18:57.35 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm. |
| 18:57.41 | Shirik|Ecole | That's literally spamming it; do you? |
| 18:57.42 | NightHawkTheSane | you are way smarter than me. :D |
| 18:57.46 | NightHawkTheSane | not at all. |
| 18:57.55 | Shirik|Ecole | Then I would say the 125 mp5 is better |
| 18:58.00 | NightHawkTheSane | especially considering i mix in chain heals |
| 18:58.01 | Fisker- | NightHawkTheSane not me :( |
| 18:58.18 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah. i'm thinking. thanks, though :) |
| 18:59.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Fisker-: no, you are you're own biggest mortal enemy. |
| 19:00.15 | haste | p3lim: there is no direct replacement to it, .__elements is probably the closest however |
| 19:01.09 | p3lim | What about registering an event without leaving a function (2nd argument) to it? |
| 19:01.54 | p3lim | Also, I like the new registering of Elements/Plug-ins |
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| 19:06.20 | haste | p3lim: what about doing that :p ? |
| 19:06.46 | p3lim | Would that do what the old :RegisterSubTypeMapping did? |
| 19:07.15 | haste | no |
| 19:07.20 | NightHawkTheSane | *sigh* i really hate that FD/Invis actually removes you from combat, that's such BS |
| 19:07.25 | haste | then you've completely misunderstood subytepmapping |
| 19:07.41 | p3lim | clearly i have |
| 19:07.49 | haste | the mapping was so oUF knew what it should force update on show |
| 19:08.31 | p3lim | i used it to force global event updates |
| 19:08.33 | p3lim | atleast I though so |
| 19:09.36 | haste | all it did was add a string that oUF used to check if the event was registered |
| 19:10.01 | haste | if it was registered it would call the function for that event, which was the same as the event name |
| 19:10.21 | haste | it was only used in the general update al function |
| 19:11.43 | p3lim | yeah, exactly what I used it for :p |
| 19:12.54 | p3lim | looks like tags works with ToT now too, great |
| 19:13.02 | haste | that's not a global update |
| 19:13.54 | haste | anyway, I don't see how you managed to line that one up to :RegisterEvent |
| 19:14.13 | p3lim | me neither |
| 19:16.32 | p3lim | i had some issue with registering UNIT_NAME_UPDATE |
| 19:16.50 | p3lim | just saying, though now that tags works perfectly I have no need for it |
| 19:24.40 | NightHawkTheSane | pastamancer: ping? |
| 19:28.07 | ccox | sometimes I wonder what the MSVC team is thinking.. |
| 19:28.23 | zenzelezz | ccox: how so? |
| 19:28.28 | ccox | and sometimes I suspect it runs along the lines of "if we slow everyone else down, it'll make us look better" |
| 19:28.48 | ccox | more compiler bugs, plus lame runtime code |
| 19:29.08 | zenzelezz | got any examples? |
| 19:30.03 | ccox | start with the abomination that is _secure_scl |
| 19:30.21 | NightHawkTheSane | OMG. |
| 19:30.24 | ccox | then add stupid things like making isspace 20 times slower than a lookup table version of it |
| 19:30.39 | NightHawkTheSane | so we're wiping face over and over in naxx, right? i mean, wiping to trash.. |
| 19:30.45 | NightHawkTheSane | we finally figured out why |
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| 19:31.00 | NightHawkTheSane | we thought we were doing naxx-10, but the instance was set to 'heroic' >< |
| 19:31.05 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 19:31.07 | ccox | inconsistent optimization of simple, simple things |
| 19:31.10 | nevcairiel | ~epic fail NightHawkTheSane |
| 19:31.10 | purl | NightHawkTheSane, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you NightHawkTheSane, you are that epic failure. |
| 19:31.20 | ccox | ~fail NightHawkTheSane |
| 19:31.21 | purl | NightHawkTheSane: FAIL! |
| 19:31.28 | nevcairiel | however, the trash isnt that hard =P |
| 19:32.07 | ccox | zenzelezz: I love to pick on gcc for it's bad optimizations, but MSVC is worse, and regressing with each release |
| 19:33.11 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: well, we were getting through it, but it was a LOT harder than we expected :P |
| 19:33.35 | zenzelezz | ccox: I don't know, 6.0 to 2003.Net was pretty good, and 2005 was better still as far as I could tell |
| 19:33.47 | ccox | 2008 regressed, bigtime |
| 19:34.00 | zenzelezz | haven't tried that one |
| 19:34.03 | ccox | and compared to other compilers, 2005 is still a dog |
| 19:34.05 | mikma | god dammit, i fail at xml |
| 19:35.34 | zenzelezz | ccox: I'm not that great at C++, and certainly not optimization, so I won't speak too loud about it; but the alternative WIndows compilers aren't all that good in my book |
| 19:35.43 | ccox | mikma - thats's ok, it's like saying "I fail at failing |
| 19:36.03 | ccox | zenzelezz: the Intel compiler produces good code, when it works |
| 19:36.22 | ccox | zenzelezz: the problem is that it makes a habit of breaking |
| 19:36.42 | ccox | at this point, I think I'd use gcc 4.2 over MSVC 2008 on WIndows |
| 19:36.54 | ccox | (prior to 4.2, not so much) |
| 19:37.08 | zenzelezz | only way I'd use GCC on Windows is if it plugged straight into the VC++ IDE and debugger |
| 19:37.57 | nevcairiel | there is always the intel compiler |
| 19:38.08 | nevcairiel | gcc on windows is always so meh |
| 19:38.23 | zenzelezz | is the Intel compiler free, and does that work in the VC++ IDE+debugger? |
| 19:38.31 | nevcairiel | it works with it, but its not free |
| 19:39.39 | mikma | ccox: yah, xml is fail :I |
| 19:39.56 | cladhaire | I really don't understand why anyone uses HealBot |
| 19:40.13 | ccox | zenzelezz: Intel compiler is commercial, but does integrate (not perfectly) with VC IDE |
| 19:40.20 | mikma | cladhaire: it's unitframes and clickhealing in one |
| 19:40.30 | cladhaire | mikma: that's specifically why I don't understand why people use it |
| 19:40.38 | cladhaire | its shitty raid frames, there are so many better |
| 19:40.45 | mikma | cladhaire: they don't know of PerfectRaid and Clique obviously :) |
| 19:40.48 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:40.48 | cladhaire | and the configuration makes me want to cry |
| 19:40.51 | cladhaire | fuck perfectraid |
| 19:40.56 | cladhaire | even the default UI's raid frames are better :P |
| 19:51.24 | cladhaire | Holiday fun for the whole family: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/8590379841/lua-home-20 |
| 19:52.07 | Thunder_Child | praid is awesome |
| 19:56.03 | sylvanaar | cladhaire tell bliz to stop filtering the GetLFGTypeEntries() api. for x-mas |
| 19:56.12 | Lyn | mikma, druid is fun.. even if i am bored and depressed :O |
| 19:56.26 | mikma | lyn: i enjoy my dk more :D |
| 19:56.33 | cladhaire | sylvanaar: they're doing what? |
| 19:56.42 | sylvanaar | bored and depressed, perfect time to install Alamo 2.0 |
| 19:57.07 | Lyn | mikma, yeah.. but i have everything done i can do without raiding |
| 19:57.08 | Lyn | so i am bored |
| 19:57.10 | Lyn | :/ |
| 19:57.18 | sylvanaar | cladhaire the api to get the id's you need to query with, returns relative ID's based on your level |
| 19:57.23 | mikma | lyn: well code me a frame with xml then |
| 19:57.25 | cladhaire | Oh, that sucks =/ |
| 19:57.33 | cladhaire | Lua Programming Gems (new book) released: http://astore.amazon.com/worofwarproag-20/detail/8590379841/105-0720423-4475656 |
| 19:57.38 | Lyn | mikma, no thanks XD |
| 19:58.35 | sylvanaar | so i have no way to do a lfg query as level 5, for a level 80 instance. |
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| 19:59.59 | sylvanaar | well, /csay lookingforgroup LFG Occululs PST |
| 20:02.03 | sylvanaar | cladhaire is there a sample chapter? |
| 20:02.26 | cladhaire | sylvanaar: http://www.lua.org/gems/sample.pdf and http://www.lua.org/gems/front.pdf |
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| 20:03.34 | cladhaire | sylvanaar: those are linked on the store page (http://wowprogramming.com/store) |
| 20:04.20 | sylvanaar | thanks |
| 20:17.47 | Tekkub | 4 perfect cuts of the same gem in a row |
| 20:17.48 | Tekkub | damnit |
| 20:24.08 | p3lim | haste: will you release oUF 1.3 tomorrow? |
| 20:24.41 | haste | p3lim: preferably |
| 20:37.59 | Olorin | yikes, rode horse off mountain at top of howling fjord and didnt notice quest had put slowfall on me, so i floated all the way to utguarde keep, grrr |
| 20:39.50 | Iriel | Olorin: I did something similar |
| 20:40.17 | Iriel | the progression was "What the...?" "Oh, cool!" " Oh, crap." |
| 20:42.04 | Anaral | Is it just me or is it odd that WoWHead lists what lvl an herb is millable, but not what level you can pick said herb? |
| 20:42.56 | Olorin | well if their was a record for total falling damage during a characters existance I think i'd win it, lost track of times fallen to death whilst charging about mining... sooner I get epic flyer the better |
| 20:44.07 | Anaral | Heck even Curse's WoWDB only shows what lvl inscription an herb is at. |
| 20:45.02 | Anaral | nm, was confusing object and item |
| 20:45.03 | Olorin | gathermate addon pretty good for herb levels , filters quite handy when you only wanna go after stuff you can pick |
| 20:45.11 | Thunder_Child | wtb WoW for portable media device |
| 20:46.14 | Olorin | hmm 16g flash stick wont do? |
| 20:46.32 | Thunder_Child | not and be able to play it on the bus |
| 20:47.06 | Olorin | oh, hmm 3g card and lappy lol |
| 20:47.13 | Thunder_Child | to big |
| 20:48.28 | Thunder_Child | i mean, blizz isnt hiring for mobile apps for noting |
| 20:49.12 | Thunder_Child | http://www.blizzard.com/us/jobopp/designer-ui-wow.html |
| 20:49.17 | Thunder_Child | and that ^ |
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| 20:54.12 | Olorin | hmm not many mobile devices are gonna have enough keys for the 2 doezen hotkeys some classes have |
| 20:54.22 | Thunder_Child | verbal |
| 20:54.29 | Thunder_Child | or touchscreen |
| 20:54.49 | NightHawkTheSane | do you want to be anywhere in public screaming "backstab! backstab! backstab!" into your phone? |
| 20:55.07 | Olorin | haha |
| 20:55.15 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 20:55.25 | Thunder_Child | they think i simply work for the government |
| 20:55.35 | Thunder_Child | or the stockmarket |
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| 20:58.27 | |pez| | lol? |
| 20:58.38 | NightHawkTheSane | srsly |
| 21:00.15 | NightHawkTheSane | most of the problem is really one mage. let's just say i can out-dps her. i'm a resto shaman. |
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| 21:05.11 | NightHawkTheSane | >.> what? |
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| 21:05.20 | Otixa | Nuffin :> |
| 21:05.25 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, okay |
| 21:05.40 | Otixa | You were supposed to bleed ;/ |
| 21:06.13 | steezo | since ChangeActionBarPage() doesn't work in combat... is there any way to accomplish the same thing while in combat? |
| 21:06.29 | NightHawkTheSane | i don't bleed. i'm made of cheese. |
| 21:06.34 | Otixa | ;o |
| 21:06.54 | Otixa | steezo, change all the buttons on it? :B |
| 21:07.30 | steezo | do you know offhand what function does that? :D |
| 21:07.39 | NightHawkTheSane | ack! |
| 21:07.40 | Otixa | Noe ;< |
| 21:07.43 | Thunder_Child | gargalethesia |
| 21:13.09 | p3lim | haste: http://pastey.net/104375 |
| 21:13.26 | p3lim | haste: got that when I entered a raid using (an updated) version of oUF_Perfect |
| 21:13.31 | p3lim | haste: git version ofcourse |
| 21:51.37 | Shirik|Ghost | Documentation: |
| 21:51.57 | Shirik|Ghost | "It can respond with one of these error messages if something goes wrong: "..."Wangtek unsupported " |
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| 22:06.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Wangtek? |
| 22:08.34 | p3lim | haste: http://pastey.net/104385 |
| 22:08.47 | p3lim | feature request before tomorrow |
| 22:13.20 | NightHawkTheSane | wtb dual specs. respeccing 4 times in a weekend is fail. |
| 22:13.40 | Thrae | NightHawkTheSane: Haha, but what else are you going to do with that gold? Besides fly around a lot ;) |
| 22:13.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: buy expensive mounts, obviously |
| 22:14.01 | Thrae | NightHawkTheSane: Oops, wrong channel |
| 22:14.12 | NightHawkTheSane | huh? |
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| 22:17.06 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/64117945 |
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| 22:26.00 | Corrodias | Adys: i'm not sure whether garfield was ever -in- that one. it's so perfect without him. |
| 22:26.09 | Adys | :D |
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| 22:28.37 | Iriel | I wonder if the author of that site knows his 'Next Comic' link is busted |
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| 22:30.15 | AnduinLothar | works for me iriel |
| 22:30.33 | Iriel | AnduinLothar: For me 'Next comic' always goes to the same one, on every page |
| 22:30.44 | Iriel | Previous works just fine |
| 22:30.54 | Shirik|Ghost | which site is this? |
| 22:31.50 | Iriel | Shirik: Garfield minus Garfield |
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| 22:33.00 | zenzelezz | works for me too |
| 22:33.01 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah they work for me too :/ |
| 22:33.36 | Iriel | So if you go to this link: http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/63189201 |
| 22:33.38 | Iriel | And iht 'Next Comic' |
| 22:33.54 | Iriel | Sorry, try this one http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/45193465 |
| 22:33.57 | AnduinLothar | goes to 8 |
| 22:34.03 | Iriel | Next comic should be Aug 12 |
| 22:34.03 | AnduinLothar | as tishould |
| 22:34.12 | Iriel | but it's always Dec 8 |
| 22:34.51 | AnduinLothar | ok so that one page is borken |
| 22:35.03 | AnduinLothar | oh no |
| 22:35.06 | Iriel | No, pretty much every page outside of december is broken |
| 22:35.11 | AnduinLothar | ya |
| 22:35.14 | Iriel | and possibly all of december too |
| 22:35.15 | Iriel | 8-) |
| 22:35.17 | Iriel | it's in bad shape |
| 22:35.20 | AnduinLothar | nah dec works |
| 22:35.28 | AnduinLothar | or not |
| 22:35.53 | AnduinLothar | works till i clickked your link. gg you broke it iriel |
| 22:36.04 | Shirik|Ecole | it.... works for me |
| 22:36.24 | Shirik|Ecole | When I clicked "Next Comic" on Iriel's it went to Dec 8, then 9, then 10, ... |
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| 23:00.57 | pastamancer | NightHawkTheSane: pong |
| 23:02.39 | NightHawkTheSane | pastamancer: more grid stuff. ;) DK ghouls aren't showing up as pets (even unholy perma-ghouls), and sometimes when people release out of naxx and spawn at Venomspite, it shows them with zero health.. i seem to recall that being an issue sometimes with TK as well, though... |
| 23:02.59 | NightHawkTheSane | none of this is a big deal, just wanted to be sure you knew :) |
| 23:04.04 | pastamancer | NightHawkTheSane: go grab the unitguid branch |
| 23:04.39 | NightHawkTheSane | unitguid branch? o_0 |
| 23:04.55 | pastamancer | yeah, check it out of svn |
| 23:05.13 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, looking at it now, i didn't see that |
| 23:07.10 | Gnarfoz | how's interaction with non-updated Grid plugins, though? |
| 23:07.22 | Gnarfoz | do they all need to be adjusted somehow? |
| 23:07.24 | mikma | anyone remembers where can i find the example of creating statusbar? there was a webpage someone made |
| 23:07.41 | pastamancer | they'll just be broken unless they also have a unitguid branch |
| 23:07.42 | mikma | err, statusbar = graphical bar, or so |
| 23:09.11 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm, good point. i'd have to give up grid_quickhealth.. |
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| 23:25.45 | Olorin | for the healthbar Mikma? |
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| 23:26.47 | mikma | olorin: well i am doing a timerbar |
| 23:27.01 | ZorbaTHut | I just lead the damage charts in a heroic! |
| 23:27.03 | ZorbaTHut | As the tank. |
| 23:27.05 | Olorin | sec i got the example webpage your thinking of, lemme find it |
| 23:27.11 | ZorbaTHut | With 900dps. |
| 23:27.13 | ZorbaTHut | arrrrgh |
| 23:27.14 | zenzelezz | ZorbaTHut: O_O |
| 23:27.17 | zenzelezz | class/instance? |
| 23:27.26 | Corrodias | damn useless dpsers |
| 23:27.30 | ZorbaTHut | warrior/vh. two mages and a rogue under me |
| 23:27.35 | ZorbaTHut | the rogue with a whopping 550dps :( |
| 23:27.44 | Industrial | LOLOL |
| 23:27.53 | zenzelezz | did he even do white damage? |
| 23:27.53 | Industrial | thats.. why do you pug anyway |
| 23:28.11 | ZorbaTHut | industrial, because a lot of people on my server are surprisingly good |
| 23:28.16 | ZorbaTHut | but . . . some also aren't |
| 23:28.16 | Industrial | i do 1700 with just white damage lmao |
| 23:28.58 | Olorin | Mikma - http://home.blarg.net/~tyroney/wow/uitutorial/ |
| 23:29.01 | WobWork | 550 dps? |
| 23:29.08 | WobWork | Was he even -facing- the mob? |
| 23:29.08 | ZorbaTHut | wob, yes. |
| 23:29.14 | Olorin | Hope thats one your thinking of |
| 23:30.02 | ZorbaTHut | well |
| 23:30.05 | ZorbaTHut | I assume he was facing the mob |
| 23:30.07 | ZorbaTHut | I don't actually know |
| 23:30.11 | ZorbaTHut | the yes was to "550 dps" :( |
| 23:30.42 | zenzelezz | my guild is trying Sartharion with three drakes... real DPS race getting Tenebron in time, and adds is a freaking nuisance >.< |
| 23:30.53 | WobWork | maybe he was sitting there yelling insults. I think my rogue can do that damage like that. |
| 23:31.25 | zenzelezz | the mobs actually cut themselves on his behalf, they pitied him so much |
| 23:32.20 | Arrowmaster | zenzelezz: wait, you mean your tank isnt getting oneshot from breaths? |
| 23:32.56 | zenzelezz | Arrowmaster: not until after Tenebron dies |
| 23:32.57 | mikma | olorin: thanks dude! that's exactly the address i was searching! |
| 23:33.11 | Olorin | :) |
| 23:33.11 | zenzelezz | Arrowmaster: but that was our main problem for the last two hours |
| 23:33.53 | Adys | How do I list all the functions a frame has, ingame? |
| 23:34.20 | Arrowmaster | we could kill the first drake before the 3rd drake came into the fight, but as soon as the 3rd drake came into the fight out MT would get 1shot on every breath |
| 23:34.22 | foxlit | Pestulent horrors are surprisingly good training dummies. |
| 23:34.42 | WobWork | hm 64bit Wine? |
| 23:34.51 | Adys | what about it? |
| 23:34.52 | cbreak | foxlit: so are training dummies |
| 23:35.02 | foxlit | cbreak: no weapon skill off those. |
| 23:35.09 | zenzelezz | Arrowmaster: yeah, that's just about what's happening to us |
| 23:35.12 | cbreak | yeah, but weapon skill... |
| 23:35.21 | cbreak | I got four to 400 without any trickery |
| 23:35.23 | cbreak | and I am a mage. |
| 23:35.29 | WobWork | Adys: You could ipair the frame |
| 23:35.40 | zenzelezz | cbreak: you can use training dummies for weapon skills? I thought they didn't work like that |
| 23:35.45 | WobWork | and if typeof(v) is a function, then you have the name at least |
| 23:35.45 | foxlit | You're a mage. |
| 23:35.47 | Gnarfoz | sheesh |
| 23:35.49 | cbreak | no |
| 23:35.52 | cbreak | I used real mobs |
| 23:36.00 | Gnarfoz | he was using the phrase "training dummy" |
| 23:36.02 | Adys | WobWork: tried, i only get the functions I set myself on it |
| 23:36.05 | WobWork | You -can- use training dummies for weapon skills |
| 23:36.12 | WobWork | Adys: They could be metatabled |
| 23:36.12 | cbreak | I only use training dummies for spec or addon debugging |
| 23:36.19 | Gnarfoz | he wasn't talking about the training dummy mobs in cities. |
| 23:36.23 | WobWork | I certainly did for my DK |
| 23:36.45 | Arrowmaster | zenzelezz: its a retarded fight imho since the 30-50k flame breaths perty much make you have to rely on stupid shit like guardian spirit, and you cant use FR gear because once all 3 drakes are dead sarth is going to rape your MT with melee damage |
| 23:36.46 | WobWork | Gnarfoz: I was responding to zenz's comment |
| 23:36.59 | Gnarfoz | WobWork: and I wasn't talking to you. :p |
| 23:37.08 | foxlit | WobWork: they seem to have no effect. |
| 23:37.14 | cbreak | can't you just kill the drakes before hand? |
| 23:37.20 | cbreak | my guild had good success with that |
| 23:37.30 | Gnarfoz | uhm that's kind of the point, right there, cbreak |
| 23:37.33 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 23:37.41 | WobWork | foxlit: the training dummies? You have to be close to your max weaponskill |
| 23:37.42 | zenzelezz | Arrowmaster: actually, I thought you could use FR if you could ensure that you'd have a free normal-gear tank ready to taunt by then; but we're not gunning for that tactic anyway |
| 23:37.51 | WobWork | by about maybe 30-40 levels maybe |
| 23:37.54 | foxlit | "cbreak: and I am a mage." << precisely the issue, too. |
| 23:38.11 | foxlit | When you whack stuff with your staff, mobs laugh at you |
| 23:38.21 | Arrowmaster | zenzelezz: thats about the only tactic i see working |
| 23:38.23 | foxlit | When I whack stuff with my axe, I have to find a new mob to pull. |
| 23:38.35 | WobWork | Or, more to the point, I think misses don't count on training dummies, while they count on real mobs for levelling up weaponskill |
| 23:38.37 | cbreak | you can use a worse axe |
| 23:38.52 | Arrowmaster | zenzelezz: but we also had problems with the drakes breathing the raid because we had 1 tank trying to tank 2 at a time and the stupid hunter pet bug kept coming up |
| 23:38.56 | cbreak | stoppable force or what ever. |
| 23:39.03 | zenzelezz | Arrowmaster: I'm new to the guild so my opinions don't matter much yet :-p How we end up doing it I can't say |
| 23:39.03 | cbreak | (hmm... or was that a mace?) |
| 23:39.07 | Arrowmaster | where the one he wasnt targetting wanted to fly behind him |
| 23:39.19 | foxlit | WobWork: any other limitations, then? |
| 23:39.27 | WobWork | foxlit: not that I noticed. |
| 23:39.41 | zenzelezz | Arrowmaster: ouch :-| |
| 23:40.09 | WobWork | Arrowmaster: Are we talking about the generic petclass vehicle bug? |
| 23:40.33 | Arrowmaster | WobWork: no the bug where all mobs want to attack tanks from behind if the tank isnt targetting them |
| 23:40.34 | WobWork | cause as an unholy DK, I've never -not- had an issue with a vehicle quest ever |
| 23:41.03 | WobWork | Arrowmaster: hehe, I'd call that clever on the part of the npc, myself =) |
| 23:41.23 | Arrowmaster | and when said mob is a drake that can fly out over lava and has a frontal cone aoe |
| 23:41.29 | zenzelezz | if it was intentional, then it would be clever |
| 23:41.30 | WobWork | Mob: "Hey.. if we don't attack from the front we won't get parrygibbed! Wait.. does that count for us?" |
| 23:41.40 | zenzelezz | but that's not the way mobs tend to think, thankfully :) |
| 23:41.50 | WobWork | Mob2: "Quick! Check EJ!" |
| 23:42.29 | foxlit | WobWork: doesn't appear to work :/ |
| 23:42.30 | Arrowmaster | its bad |
| 23:44.54 | WobWork | foxlit: hitting the training dummies? |
| 23:45.04 | foxlit | yep, no effect. |
| 23:45.12 | WobWork | are you -hitting- the training dummies? |
| 23:45.21 | foxlit | Yes. |
| 23:45.23 | WobWork | hm |
| 23:45.30 | WobWork | maybe it's only the Ebon Hold ones... |
| 23:45.32 | WobWork | but that'd be weird |
| 23:45.35 | foxlit | 396/400, in Ebon Hold. |
| 23:45.49 | WobWork | well... it may take a while =P |
| 23:46.03 | WobWork | I never got up to full max |
| 23:46.09 | WobWork | cause I got bored |
| 23:46.20 | WobWork | but it definitely increased prior to that |
| 23:46.36 | Arrowmaster | i thought they disabled it on training dummies |
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| 23:46.53 | WobWork | Arrowmaster: not at launch |
| 23:46.56 | Arrowmaster | it still works on the banished guy outside of black temple though |
| 23:47.02 | Arrowmaster | the demon |
| 23:47.26 | WobWork | hehe one of these days, he'll get free. |
| 23:47.35 | WobWork | and people will log on to a surprise ganking =P |
| 23:47.38 | WobWork | cause he'll have a list! |
| 23:47.57 | cbreak | just keep him perma-sheeped instead... |
| 23:48.19 | WobWork | that's a bit painful to level weapons on if you have to sheep between each hit |
| 23:48.44 | WobWork | and I'm sure any mage you hire to chain sheep would die a little inside each time you broke it |
| 23:48.54 | cbreak | true words |
| 23:49.13 | cbreak | I am famous for a whisper macro for sheep breaking |
| 23:49.27 | cbreak | when the whole raid targets the wrong mob, I get disconnected from the server :( |
| 23:50.56 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 23:51.37 | foxlit | Also fun: Azure Manashapers. |
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| 23:52.31 | WobWork | cbreak: hehe change it to "When number of people > 4 then switch from whisper to yell" =) |
| 23:52.57 | cbreak | I added a cooldown after the first few disconnects |
| 23:53.05 | cbreak | now it only whispers once every 5 secs |
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