| 00:00.35 | Corr-work | rawr! :3 |
| 00:01.06 | Tem | Oh, I see |
| 00:01.19 | Tem | Lunessa said the big gay al thing |
| 00:01.22 | Olorin | no Wobin why you ask? |
| 00:01.26 | Tem | but why the "Matt" part? |
| 00:01.35 | Wobin | Olorin: Similar username |
| 00:01.40 | Lunessa | My real name is Matt. |
| 00:01.54 | Corr-work | big gay matt |
| 00:02.02 | Lunessa | Jelly knows this. Now so does everyone else. |
| 00:02.21 | Olorin | ah, sorry was busy making rude jestures at someone who overtook me one mob before quest mob , grrr |
| 00:02.41 | Tem | Lunessa, *sigh* |
| 00:02.57 | Lunessa | Tem: Lots of them. |
| 00:03.07 | Lunessa | LOTS AND LOTS OF THEM |
| 00:03.09 | Tem | 3 before I finish with +o and +v |
| 00:03.32 | Lunessa | Because someone about 1965 said "Matt is a good anme for a boy!" |
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| 00:04.46 | |Jelly| | Well, I /thought/ that was common knowledge. Sorry :( |
| 00:05.09 | Wobin | If it makes you feel any better... |
| 00:05.12 | Wobin | My name isn't Matt |
| 00:05.19 | |Jelly| | Neither is mine. |
| 00:08.27 | ckknight | Lunessa? |
| 00:08.57 | Lunessa | Yeah? |
| 00:12.54 | Olorin | dangit my quest npc, a murloc just said so long suckers, im outta here, and ran off lol |
| 00:13.39 | Wobin | hehe, I have no idea what's with that npc |
| 00:13.44 | Wobin | but the other one is the escort |
| 00:14.12 | Wobin | PS, can the tadpoles BE ANY CUTER? |
| 00:14.52 | Wobin | (also, short sighted? Calling a 8ft tall fuzzy tauren "Da-da"?) |
| 00:15.05 | Olorin | dunno but im not sure i wanna be friends with fishy creatures |
| 00:15.42 | Olorin | haha not seen that one yet |
| 00:19.51 | cbreak | yay! I got my flying carpet today! |
| 00:20.08 | cbreak | but it seems to be not a normal mount |
| 00:20.13 | Olorin | gratz |
| 00:20.15 | cbreak | more like those vehicles |
| 00:20.32 | cbreak | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:20.35 | cbreak | sometimes |
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| 00:22.49 | NightHawkTheSane | cbreak: you can mount it in the non-flying areas of dalaran? |
| 00:23.00 | cbreak | sometimes |
| 00:23.12 | NightHawkTheSane | 'sometimes'? |
| 00:23.21 | cbreak | yes. I am not sure on what it depends on |
| 00:23.29 | cbreak | I tried it at the mail box in front of the bank |
| 00:23.36 | cbreak | (the one that's near the black smith trainer |
| 00:23.39 | Shirik | whenever he's haxing he can |
| 00:23.41 | cbreak | and it worked |
| 00:23.50 | NightHawkTheSane | cbreak: sounds like glitches/bugs, to me. |
| 00:23.52 | cbreak | but after a few seconds I got the no fly debuff |
| 00:23.58 | cbreak | but after that I can't mount |
| 00:24.01 | Arrowmaster | you can also use it to get the minefield achievement |
| 00:24.04 | cbreak | for some time... and then it goes again |
| 00:24.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: that's hax >< |
| 00:24.13 | cbreak | I already have that :) |
| 00:24.21 | Arrowmaster | i cant get that damn achievement |
| 00:24.30 | Arrowmaster | keep getting tosed into safe spots |
| 00:24.38 | NightHawkTheSane | a spriest guildy got it the "proper" way |
| 00:24.42 | cbreak | I just blinked in, let it throw me around for some time and then blinked out again |
| 00:24.59 | Arrowmaster | i always land in safe spots |
| 00:25.08 | cbreak | you're lucky :) |
| 00:25.08 | NightHawkTheSane | it's a little bit luck, a little bit skill, you need to turn while falling, and break for the nearest mine as soon as you land |
| 00:25.20 | NightHawkTheSane | but yeah, there's some luck involved |
| 00:29.47 | Arrowmaster | ok i got it now |
| 00:35.29 | cbreak | grats :) |
| 00:39.47 | foxlit | Hm, 79 emblems of Heroism. |
| 00:39.50 | foxlit | What to get, what to get. |
| 00:40.53 | Dewin | Oh. Bleh. I broke Notepad++ good. |
| 00:41.08 | ZorbaTHut | can anyone think of a way to get a lot of containers easily? i.e. "right-click to open" that brings up a loot window? |
| 00:41.29 | Dewin | Zorba: I'd say clams, but they changed them |
| 00:41.37 | Dewin | umm |
| 00:41.37 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, I already tried those :/ |
| 00:41.40 | Dewin | the gnome thingies. |
| 00:41.46 | Dewin | grime-encrusted objects |
| 00:42.12 | Dewin | if those aren't similiarly changed |
| 00:42.20 | Corr-work | gnome-encrusted objects |
| 00:42.28 | ZorbaTHut | hmm, good idea |
| 00:42.31 | ZorbaTHut | I shall try that |
| 00:42.50 | Dewin | Is this for Questhelper? |
| 00:42.53 | ZorbaTHut | yeah |
| 00:42.55 | Dewin | (<3 it btw) |
| 00:43.02 | ZorbaTHut | I'm trying to track items a little better |
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| 00:43.29 | Wobin | of course that means you'll have to get the items |
| 00:43.33 | Wobin | then put them in the cleaner |
| 00:43.36 | Wobin | and they don't stack |
| 00:43.43 | Dewin | Any idea if we'll ever see stuff that handles non-tracked quest objectives better? i.e. "Collect X of item Y to use as reagent for item Z" type quests? |
| 00:43.44 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, whatever, I can do that |
| 00:43.52 | ZorbaTHut | it's not like gnomeregan is hard to get through |
| 00:43.56 | ZorbaTHut | dewin, "eventually" |
| 00:44.09 | Dewin | The one that always drove me nuts pre-wotlk was the magic dust SSO daily. |
| 00:44.10 | Lunessa | foxlit: for ditch 10 of them for a more harmonious number? |
| 00:44.29 | foxlit | Meh, get one more and get the chest token, maybe |
| 00:45.54 | Amarande | arrrgh. |
| 00:45.56 | Amarande | my TV is stuck |
| 00:46.15 | Amarande | wonder if the remote batteries are dying |
| 00:47.59 | mikma | gah! |
| 00:48.09 | mikma | need a leveling guide for Icerown :( |
| 00:49.49 | NightHawkTheSane | go to argent vanguard, do the quests. follow as you are led by the nose to 99% of the quests in the zone. |
| 00:49.59 | NightHawkTheSane | there, done. can i get a tip? |
| 00:51.25 | mikma | no, i want a written guide that tells me where to find quests "grouped" in one place so i don't have to fly around the fucking place |
| 00:51.56 | NightHawkTheSane | the zone itself does a decent job of that |
| 00:52.08 | foxlit | Indeed. |
| 00:52.10 | NightHawkTheSane | i really wasn't flying all over that much |
| 00:52.18 | foxlit | Read quest text -> ??? -> profit. |
| 00:52.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2003/10/22/55388.aspx |
| 00:53.00 | Shirik | is that a backwards compatible msdn post? I see it's from 2003 |
| 00:53.45 | ScytheBlade1 | It's relevant to your earlier rant |
| 00:54.43 | mikma | http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4518820/Zygor_ALLIANCE_1-80_IN-GAME_Guide_ <- love the last comments :D |
| 00:54.45 | Shirik | ok that's different |
| 00:55.07 | Shirik | there isn't really a reason NOT to support names like "COM10" |
| 00:55.22 | Shirik | we can still support \\.\COM10 if we want to |
| 00:55.26 | Shirik | but why can't we support COM10 too |
| 00:55.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Because it wasn't created or documented back then |
| 00:56.08 | Shirik | so what! |
| 00:56.12 | Shirik | We're adding features, not removing them |
| 00:56.25 | ScytheBlade1 | YOU were the one in favor of removing them entirely ;) |
| 00:56.35 | Shirik | admittedly I did say I want to get rid of \\.\COM10 |
| 00:56.37 | mikma | ~poop |
| 00:56.38 | purl | for me to poop on! |
| 00:56.39 | Shirik | but why can't we at least add COM10 |
| 00:56.46 | ScytheBlade1 | If anything |
| 00:56.52 | ScytheBlade1 | They should remove COM1-9 |
| 00:56.57 | ScytheBlade1 | And force you to use their proper names |
| 00:57.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub: I still get nil errors in the Glyphs pane of Panda. >< |
| 00:57.02 | Shirik | no f that |
| 00:57.10 | Shirik | if they do that then we should just revamp the entire system |
| 00:57.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah, so you want to have your cake and eat it too |
| 00:57.15 | Shirik | because the system is jacked up as it is |
| 00:57.23 | Wobin | isn't the cake a lie? |
| 00:57.43 | Shirik | ~lart Wobin |
| 00:57.43 | purl | slaps a compatible dib on Wobin's head |
| 01:04.46 | Lunessa | Shirik: 'cause COM ports are totally out-moded, a legacy of limitations we no longer have, and all that shit should just be something better! |
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| 01:06.13 | kd3 | wth? I still want to ditch the mouse/keyboard ports on new computers... everything should be using usb these days |
| 01:06.22 | kd3 | com/lpt ports can die too |
| 01:06.34 | Shirik | I'm still using com/lpt ports rather frequently tbh |
| 01:06.43 | Shirik | I just prefer there were a better way to access them |
| 01:06.47 | Shirik | UNIX's makes sense |
| 01:06.54 | Shirik | like on QNX is /dev/ser1, /dev/ser2, etc. |
| 01:07.44 | Amarande | people still use QNX? |
| 01:07.47 | Amarande | I thought that disappeared years ago |
| 01:07.48 | Shirik | I <3 QNX! |
| 01:07.54 | Shirik | no, they just came out with a new version |
| 01:08.05 | Shirik | 6.4 is pretty rocking actually |
| 01:08.57 | Shirik | I'm really getting sick of the whole "Omg Linux is the answer to EVERYTHING" that seems to be floating around |
| 01:09.08 | Shirik | I start talking about embedded systems and people are all "Let's put Linux on it!" |
| 01:09.26 | Shirik | I retaliate with "It's not a realtime OS..." and their reply is "Well we can use RT Linux!" |
| 01:09.47 | Shirik | ... yes, let's take a kernel that was completely not designed for this purpose and hack it up to make it work, instead of using one that was made from the ground up with that purpose |
| 01:11.57 | Lysistrata | Lunessa comports are still useful if it comes to some specific things like ROM programming etc (i believe) though for the modern gamer/office dude its most likely not relevant anymore. Thats right. :) |
| 01:12.35 | Lysistrata | Shirik but its so nice! ;) Though it depends on the device and RT Linux sure isn't a good option. ^^; |
| 01:14.05 | Lunessa | Lysistrata: I was adding a mean and nasty sarcastic point to Shirik 's rant, but the point is valid - for most computer use, that model is largely outdated. Like the 1.44mb floppy. |
| 01:16.11 | Lysistrata | Yeha I just read the last few lines, I should've scrolled up a bit. *g* |
| 01:16.11 | Shiibot | New WoW-US Server Alert: December 8th, 2008 5:00pm PST. |
| 01:16.11 | Shiibot | We will be performing a series of rolling restarts on all realms for our scheduled weekly maintenance on Tuesday, December 9th. The restarts for all US realms will begin at 5:00am PST and all Oceanic realms will begin at 10:00am PST (Wednesday, December 10th, 5:00am AEDT). The realms will be down for approximately 15 minutes each for the rolling restarts. |
| 01:16.11 | Shiibot | Thank you,. . Blizzard Entertainment |
| 01:16.26 | kd3 | oh wow. only rolling restarts |
| 01:16.43 | kd3 | are those... pigs in the sky? |
| 01:17.42 | Lysistrata | No homing sheeps |
| 01:17.56 | |pez| | rolling restarts? |
| 01:17.58 | kd3 | bah. I need to play worms again. it's been too long |
| 01:18.19 | Lysistrata | Not all realms are down at the same time |pez| |
| 01:18.25 | |pez| | Ooh, rightright. |
| 01:18.35 | |pez| | I can facepalm now. |
| 01:18.41 | Lysistrata | hf |
| 01:20.24 | bleeter | 10AM? HOLY SHEET |
| 01:21.06 | bleeter | only one month of 12PM restarts after I was promised no more 12PM restarts |
| 01:21.22 | bleeter | hell, at this rate I might even resubscribe again |
| 01:21.58 | bleeter | kd3: ^^ yes, there are pigs in the sky |
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| 01:33.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub: ping? |
| 01:33.37 | mikma | woooooot |
| 01:33.50 | mikma | badly coded stuff = <3 |
| 01:35.01 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_120908_033420.jpg |
| 01:35.03 | mikma | BOOOYAH! |
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| 01:37.24 | bleeter | ~lobotomy Bleetor |
| 01:37.25 | purl | ACTION pulls out a rusty saw to perform a lobotomy on Bleetor |
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| 01:39.32 | Thunder_Child | If a box with a square base and open top is to have a volume of 4 ft. ^3, find the dimensions that require the least material. (disregard the thinkness of the material and waste in construction) |
| 01:39.55 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, think you could solve the above? |
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| 01:40.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh wow |
| 01:40.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Troooooooooool: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13275700785&pageNo=1&sid=1#10 |
| 01:41.51 | Shirik | yay |
| 01:41.52 | Shirik | malygos down |
| 01:43.13 | Corrodias | grats |
| 01:43.18 | Shirik | find the dimensions that require the least material? |
| 01:43.27 | Shirik | give me the formula for surface area |
| 01:43.40 | Thunder_Child | there is none |
| 01:43.59 | Cralor` | x * x! |
| 01:44.01 | Thunder_Child | or rather you just have to know it |
| 01:44.05 | Shirik | 2bh + 2lb + 2lh |
| 01:44.06 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: at what speed is said box travelling? |
| 01:44.08 | Corrodias | it depends on the shape |
| 01:44.12 | Cralor` | oh that 1 |
| 01:44.16 | Shirik | wait, open top? |
| 01:44.17 | Shirik | wtf |
| 01:44.22 | Shirik | Screw this question, I can't think about this right now |
| 01:44.22 | Thunder_Child | ~lart bleeter |
| 01:44.22 | purl | shoots bleeter in the head |
| 01:44.25 | bleeter | 'coz I'm sure at certain speeds relativity comes into play |
| 01:44.25 | Shirik | but it should just be algebra |
| 01:44.30 | Thunder_Child | anyone else? |
| 01:44.34 | Shirik | ~lart bleeter |
| 01:44.35 | purl | farts in bleeter's general direction |
| 01:45.01 | bleeter | don't go asking a scientific question if yer going to phrase the question poorly |
| 01:45.10 | bleeter | ~whaleparry |
| 01:45.17 | Thunder_Child | hey, thats what it says in the book damit |
| 01:45.27 | bleeter | BURN TEH BUUK |
| 01:45.56 | bleeter | damn heathen texts |
| 01:47.25 | Arrowmaster | mikma: inventory full? |
| 01:47.49 | Lunessa | ScytheBlade1: Inc perma-ban. |
| 01:48.54 | mikma | arrowmaster: nope |
| 01:50.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: oddly no. GC also replied to him, and he posted again, saying the same things but more forceful |
| 01:50.30 | Lunessa | I'm still reading the initial thread of fail you linked. |
| 01:50.42 | ScytheBlade1 | It's pretty much fail, yeah |
| 01:54.38 | Lunessa | His post boils down to "QQ, Rouges stun-lock me in PvP. Make that stop happening so my Mage/Warlock can roll more teams. QQ I will keep posting this everyday until you do. QQ" |
| 01:54.52 | cbreak | blink ftw. |
| 01:56.16 | Shirik | night all |
| 01:56.31 | Cralor` | bye |
| 01:56.34 | bleeter | gnight Shirik rest well mate |
| 01:57.06 | Corrodias | they shouldn't have even responded without banning him |
| 01:57.33 | Corrodias | whether to leave the thread there as an example to others is debatable, and not something i want to take a stand on either way |
| 01:58.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: missing a few QQs in there |
| 01:58.14 | Corrodias | now i'm whining about the way the post was handled, to people who aren't involved :) |
| 01:58.14 | Lunessa | QQ MOAR |
| 01:58.28 | bleeter | ~emulate bleeter |
| 01:58.28 | purl | ACTION rant RANT rant waaa MOAR COFFEE <sub>GOOD IDEA</sub>rant waa MOAR COFFEE rant rant MOAR MOAR <blink><h1>terribad idea</h1></blink> rant |
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| 02:03.52 | Shirik|zZz | uh |
| 02:04.04 | Shirik|zZz | whoops |
| 02:04.16 | Shirik|zZz | http://wowwebstats.com/w5zeqkau5ovau?a=x112162 |
| 02:04.22 | Shirik|zZz | Apparently I managed to hit malygos 14 times |
| 02:08.45 | |Jelly| | yay ... we're throwing more money at 25 man Thaddius |
| 02:08.57 | |Jelly| | ...even though we simply don't have the DPS for it |
| 02:11.28 | Syzgyn | o.O |
| 02:11.50 | Syzgyn | dps keep dying? |
| 02:12.52 | mikma | if so, you dont have enough healpowah! |
| 02:13.10 | selckin | yeah definitly the healers |
| 02:13.37 | mikma | always the healers. remember that |
| 02:13.49 | selckin | thats why i rerolled tank |
| 02:13.56 | Lunessa | No, always the tanks. Then the Healers. DPS is NEVER at fault. |
| 02:13.59 | Syzgyn | lol |
| 02:14.05 | mikma | heh |
| 02:14.15 | Lunessa | I mean, like srsly |
| 02:14.19 | Amarande | ok, is this a bug or something else? |
| 02:14.30 | Corrodias | it's your fault, no bug |
| 02:14.34 | Amarande | I was in Riplash Strand |
| 02:14.42 | Amarande | there was this one Tuskarr guy with a yellow ! over him |
| 02:14.58 | Amarande | but he kept moving so I couldn't get his quest, and eventually he left the Strand |
| 02:15.07 | Amarande | and this area seems to be phased so I can't find him once I follow him out |
| 02:16.20 | cbreak | Thaddius? |
| 02:16.29 | Syzgyn | Hah, I'm a Jormungard |
| 02:16.34 | Corrodias | were "phased" areas a good idea? |
| 02:16.38 | cbreak | the mushrom guy? Or was it the frankenstein guy? |
| 02:16.45 | cbreak | Corrodias: yes. |
| 02:16.50 | cbreak | Wrathgate! |
| 02:17.57 | mikma | syzgyn: tamed cockmuncher? |
| 02:18.21 | Syzgyn | Storm peaks quest |
| 02:18.35 | mikma | i just did it 30min ago =D |
| 02:18.40 | Amarande | anyway |
| 02:18.44 | Amarande | does that tuskarr guy come back at some point |
| 02:18.48 | Amarande | or is that a quest I can't get now, ever? |
| 02:18.52 | mikma | my cockmuncher had 3100hp left when the giant died |
| 02:18.59 | Syzgyn | And I believe thats all I have left in storm peaks |
| 02:19.20 | Amarande | ah, apparently I have to kill mobs again |
| 02:20.03 | Corrodias | i'm sorry |
| 02:20.05 | Syzgyn | All I have left now is the majority of Howling Fjord :V |
| 02:20.06 | Corrodias | did you say "cockmuncher"? |
| 02:20.38 | Lunessa | he did. Repeatedly. With vigor. |
| 02:20.38 | mikma | yea, thats what i call them |
| 02:20.44 | Corrodias | only you? :( |
| 02:20.57 | mikma | i hate them roo damn much |
| 02:24.12 | Amarande | ok, is cobalt just rare in the starter northrend areas? |
| 02:24.26 | Amarande | I've only ever seen two ore nodes in my total time in NR |
| 02:24.47 | cbreak | I got 6 cobalt so far by fishing up wreckage |
| 02:24.59 | Wobin | it's not too bad |
| 02:25.15 | Wobin | BT has a few nodes |
| 02:25.26 | Wobin | head more to the mountains |
| 02:25.34 | Wobin | and glacial areas |
| 02:28.29 | Wobin | I've gotten to 427 by the time I got to Grizzly through no real effort of mining |
| 02:28.58 | Wobin | Amarande: get gathermate |
| 02:29.04 | Wobin | and import the wotlk data |
| 02:30.16 | Amarande | Wobin: does that work with cartographer? |
| 02:30.33 | Wobin | no idea |
| 02:30.41 | Wobin | i've stopped using cartographer a long time ago |
| 02:31.08 | Wobin | but import -some- kind of wotlk data |
| 02:31.18 | Wobin | that will help you find the nodes, instead of searching blindly |
| 02:32.59 | Wobin | hm, armoury doesn't show presence boosted armour values |
| 02:35.55 | cbreak | I switched to GatherMate from Cartogrpher before 3.0 |
| 02:35.59 | cbreak | worked without problem |
| 02:36.04 | cbreak | and it continues to work now |
| 02:36.10 | cbreak | (as far as I can judge) |
| 02:36.43 | cbreak | main difference is that GatherMate uses less than 20% of the cpu time and memory of cartographer. |
| 02:38.44 | Arrowmaster | fyi do NOT go exploring after killing malygos |
| 02:38.47 | Arrowmaster | you will get stuck |
| 02:39.20 | selckin | so dismount an run back? |
| 02:39.41 | Arrowmaster | i did dismount |
| 02:39.45 | Arrowmaster | im falling through space |
| 02:39.54 | selckin | then you die |
| 02:40.12 | Arrowmaster | no you dont |
| 02:40.15 | Arrowmaster | not if you go too far |
| 02:40.40 | |pez| | So, I realized today I've never seen the Draenei male dance... before today. |
| 02:40.41 | |pez| | I loled. |
| 02:43.32 | Arrowmaster | stuck floating in space.... |
| 02:43.48 | Arrowmaster | waiting on a summon to go do a heroic |
| 02:44.51 | selckin | get a bg queue |
| 02:48.00 | Wobin | hoho |
| 02:48.03 | Wobin | quu is back |
| 02:48.58 | Wobin | You crazy americans |
| 02:49.04 | Wobin | You call the main meal "Entree"? |
| 02:49.16 | NightHawkTheSane | epic fail: doing 10 man thaddius. BOTH tanks failed to make the jump to thaddius' platform. |
| 02:49.49 | selckin | we all got lazored after both died while jumping once, and everyone missed the jump because of it |
| 02:50.02 | Arrowmaster | no epic fail is me having done 10 man naxx twice now and not killing sapph or kt either time |
| 02:50.08 | Amarande | Night: were they gnomes? |
| 02:50.15 | Amarande | I've heard gnomes -always- have issues with thaddius |
| 02:50.26 | selckin | gnomes just have issues |
| 02:50.32 | Amarande | selckin: that too |
| 02:51.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: belfs |
| 02:51.13 | |Jelly| | I wasn't paying attention. We're not pulling 85kdps raid wide. |
| 02:51.33 | NightHawkTheSane | one of them MAY have mini'd though |
| 02:52.02 | |Jelly| | And well, he's got 30400100hp with a 6min enrage timer :( |
| 02:53.07 | NightHawkTheSane | if people don't get the whole "cross on the right" thing this time, i may have to chokabitch. |
| 02:53.09 | NightHawkTheSane | +c |
| 02:53.17 | NightHawkTheSane | er, +e, i mean |
| 02:59.57 | Wobin | hokay |
| 03:00.03 | Wobin | Theme: Good Vs Evil |
| 03:00.11 | Wobin | simple but clever costume ideas |
| 03:00.12 | Wobin | must be cheap |
| 03:00.31 | Wobin | My idea was to wear a Santa hat, and a namebadge for the "National Dyslexic Assocation" |
| 03:00.50 | Wobin | But my friend thinks that it's a bit too clever for the audience |
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| 03:04.22 | selckin | i don't get it. |
| 03:04.51 | Wobin | What's one of the names for the Prince of Lies? |
| 03:05.53 | selckin | never heared of it. |
| 03:08.32 | Wobin | could be a cultural thing then |
| 03:08.35 | Cairenn | your friend is right, though, a lot won't get it |
| 03:09.21 | Wobin | any other ideas, though? |
| 03:10.04 | Cairenn | I really like it, myself, but /shrug |
| 03:11.27 | Wobin | Probably because you could go and look smug at people who ask "What's your costume", eh, Cair? =) |
| 03:12.52 | Wobin | It's such an abstract 'theme' |
| 03:12.55 | Cairenn | heh |
| 03:13.04 | Wobin | It's hard to come up with anything classy that's also cheap =) |
| 03:13.15 | Cairenn | I think you should go with it |
| 03:13.54 | Cairenn | people may very well end up asking you what it means, but what the heck, it's a good costume idea |
| 03:14.01 | Cairenn | definitely fits the theme |
| 03:17.54 | Amarande | I think there's a typo in my quest log |
| 03:18.03 | Amarande | it should say "Chilled meat cannot be found on any Northrend beast" |
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| 03:18.26 | Wobin | I have heaps of it |
| 03:18.45 | Wobin | which quest asks for it? |
| 03:19.11 | Amarande | Wobin: Northern Cooking |
| 03:19.18 | Amarande | the rhinos don't drop it, the moths don't drop it ... |
| 03:19.21 | Wobin | ah, one thing I haven't ground up |
| 03:19.23 | Amarande | the spiders and such aren't beasts ... |
| 03:19.29 | Wobin | deer |
| 03:19.31 | Wobin | bear |
| 03:19.36 | Wobin | wolf |
| 03:19.49 | Wobin | not sure about mammoths |
| 03:20.09 | Sagiv_Saffi | >GetMacroIndexByName("MyMacro") is returning 0 before I run CreateMacro, after it is returning 1, but I go into my macros and it doesn't exist?? any1 have any ideas |
| 03:21.07 | Lunessa | For random crap: Santa Baby - Just slip a sable under the tree - For me - Been an awful good girl - Santa Baby, so hurry down the chimney tonight |
| 03:22.33 | Lunessa | I figured you did. :) |
| 03:24.43 | Thunder_Child | she like it becuse she has never been a good girl |
| 03:25.51 | Thunder_Child | heh, i totaly heard that with a southern belle accent |
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| 03:26.47 | Xiro | question, if ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler requires its first param to be self, how would I call it? for example the code I'm trying to update calls it as ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler(event), viewing it on wowcompares shows ChatFrame_Message_EventHandler(self,event,...) |
| 03:27.01 | Sagiv_Saffi | no1 have an answer to my macro qyestion? |
| 03:28.27 | Lunessa | The day Cairenn sounds like a Southern Belle, the Canadians have invaded. |
| 03:29.17 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 03:29.38 | Sagiv_Saffi | GetMacroIndexByName("MyMacro") is returning 0 before I run CreateMacro, after it is returning 1, but I go into my macros and it doesn't exist?? any1 have any ideas |
| 03:30.07 | Lunessa | Of course, some invaders would be more welcome than others. |
| 03:30.57 | Lunessa | Sagiv_Saffi: pastey your code. |
| 03:31.33 | Gngsk | Xiro, ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler(ChatFrameX, event, ...) ? |
| 03:31.40 | Xiro | aha! |
| 03:31.49 | Xiro | so simple... |
| 03:32.07 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, the canadians already invaded |
| 03:32.08 | Thunder_Child | once |
| 03:32.27 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: And the gave a good showing too. But it works both ways. |
| 03:32.33 | Sagiv_Saffi | Lunessa: http://ace.pastey.net/103984 |
| 03:36.44 | Lunessa | Sagiv_Saffi: looks like it should do as advertised and write an empty macro by that name. |
| 03:37.13 | Lunessa | but you wan " not ' |
| 03:37.25 | Lunessa | Er, you want to use " not ' |
| 03:37.47 | Sagiv_Saffi | Lunessa: why? if it = 0 that means it doesnt exist and I need to make on, correct? |
| 03:38.06 | Lunessa | I'm saying your string should be enclosed in " " not ' ' |
| 03:38.33 | Lunessa | But yes, your logic looks right to me. |
| 03:40.01 | Sagiv_Saffi | oh right x_x... still isnt working |
| 03:42.04 | Lunessa | What happens if you look for the macro with GetMacroInfo after the create? |
| 03:44.45 | Sagiv_Saffi | i printed it out the very next line, got the name (by calling from the "MyMacro", not the index number) and got the name and icontexture back |
| 03:44.54 | Sagiv_Saffi | since the body text is empty i expect this |
| 03:46.21 | Cide | hmm |
| 03:46.22 | Cide | for svn.. say I want to revert a file to an older revision and commit it |
| 03:46.22 | Lunessa | So you're saying the macro interface in-game doesn't show the new macro? |
| 03:46.22 | Cide | how do I do that? |
| 03:46.27 | Cide | I can revert it just fine, but svn doesn't recognize it as modified then |
| 03:46.42 | Cide | since it's not modified according to the old revision, but it is modified compared to the head revision |
| 03:47.06 | Sagiv_Saffi | Lunessa: correct |
| 03:47.24 | Lunessa | Sagiv_Saffi: Honestly, I don't know. It looks right to me. |
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| 03:49.41 | Cide | anyone? |
| 03:49.57 | Lunessa | Sorry Cide Not an SVN guy. |
| 03:50.03 | Cide | same :P |
| 03:50.07 | Iriel | cide: what's the question? |
| 03:50.17 | Cide | I'll c&p from just before you joined |
| 03:50.36 | Cide | for svn.. say I want to revert a file to an older revision and commit it. I can revert it just fine, but svn doesn't recognize it as modified then, since it's not modified according to the old revision, but it is modified compared to the head revision |
| 03:50.53 | Iriel | I usually do svn cat -r<someoldversion> Filename > Filename |
| 03:50.57 | Iriel | then svn commit that |
| 03:51.19 | Iriel | I think there's a trick with svn cp too, but I'm not 100% of which syntax(es) you can use |
| 03:51.24 | Cide | that overrides the file with the old revision, it doesn't "update to revision"? |
| 03:51.53 | Iriel | Right you need the file to be on the head of whatever branch you're committing against first |
| 03:52.34 | Cide | an ugly version would of course to be to revert to old revision, delete, update, paste, commit... |
| 03:52.47 | Iriel | That wont work though |
| 03:52.52 | Cide | why not? |
| 03:52.52 | Iriel | Oh, yes it will |
| 03:53.00 | Iriel | but that's essentially what I suggested, just uglier |
| 03:53.04 | Cide | aye |
| 03:53.15 | Iriel | Let me check the cp thing |
| 03:53.18 | Iriel | wont take me long |
| 03:53.45 | Cide | sure, thanks |
| 03:58.17 | Iriel | The cleanest way seems to be... |
| 03:58.20 | Iriel | svn rm somefile |
| 03:58.29 | Iriel | svn cp -rOLDREVISION somefile . |
| 03:58.31 | Iriel | svn commit somefile |
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| 03:58.54 | Iriel | (Assuming you want to lose all log entries between the two) |
| 03:58.57 | Iriel | OR.... |
| 03:59.18 | Iriel | svn merge -rHEAD:OLDREVISION somefile |
| 03:59.19 | Iriel | e.g. |
| 03:59.28 | Iriel | svn merge -rHEAD:1110 a.txt |
| 03:59.39 | Iriel | if you want the 'reversion' to look like a reguilar commit at the end of the log chain |
| 03:59.59 | pastamancer | Iriel: I need a moment of your time regarding how best to approach blizzard to get some changes made to the secure driver code, namely adding a vehiclewatch similar to the existing unitwatch. If you don't have time now, I'd appreciate your input in this thread http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=15264 |
| 04:01.32 | Iriel | pastamancer: Can you post a request on the official forum? |
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| 04:01.44 | Cide | Iriel: ah, merge seems to work great |
| 04:01.49 | Cide | thanks |
| 04:02.19 | Iriel | Cide: The 'right' tool for the job depends heavily on what you want your revision tree to look like afterwards |
| 04:02.24 | Cide | aye |
| 04:02.38 | pastamancer | Iriel: I was afraid the official forum would move too fast. I'm also not sure what to do about the SecureRaidHeader and VehicleWatch both wanting to set the unit on a frame |
| 04:03.48 | Iriel | pastamancer: well, post a link to your thread in Cog's suggestions thread, that will pin it down a little |
| 04:04.15 | Iriel | pastamancer: Generally the best suggestions for something 'large' are to explain the issue and what you think the solution needs to consider, rather than trying to build the whole thing in advance |
| 04:04.21 | pastamancer | ok thanks |
| 04:04.56 | Iriel | pastamancer: so I wouldnt' worry TOO much if there are some conflicts, though calling them out as potential 'gotchas' is probably useful |
| 04:05.29 | Iriel | Obviously if a VehicleWatch system was integrated that overlaid the unit attribute then they'd have to make sure other headers worked cooperatively with it |
| 04:05.29 | pastamancer | well, my goal is to get grid via the secure headers to support unit/vehicle swapping just like the default interface |
| 04:05.36 | pastamancer | right |
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| 04:06.52 | Iriel | I'm a bit behind at the moment with my forum-ing |
| 04:07.31 | pastamancer | I probably won't get around to posting on the official forums until tomorrow |
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| 04:18.47 | linear` | anyone have experience coding bossmods using rdx |
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| 04:31.59 | Lunessa | Night all. |
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| 04:35.08 | NightHawkTheSane | sigh |
| 04:35.17 | NightHawkTheSane | naxx-10 cleared, and none of the shaman token drops. |
| 04:35.27 | Tekkub | and the problem is? |
| 04:35.31 | NightHawkTheSane | we had 4 shaman. >< |
| 04:35.38 | Tekkub | that is a problem |
| 04:36.35 | NightHawkTheSane | our ONE death knight got -3- pieces of t7 (non-badge ones, at that) |
| 04:38.54 | NightHawkTheSane | granted, the guy dinged 80 a week or so previous, so he desperately needed the gear. |
| 04:41.17 | cbreak | unlike everyone else? :) |
| 04:42.12 | NightHawkTheSane | actually, generally yes |
| 04:42.37 | NightHawkTheSane | at least 4 of us in the raid have been 80 for a couple weeks and been running the hell out of heroics, so. :p |
| 04:42.53 | NightHawkTheSane | the others i think were somewhere in between |
| 04:43.51 | TC-Away | i'm still 70 |
| 04:44.31 | Corrodias | now you should feel jealous that he gets this without doing all the work you guys did |
| 04:44.39 | NightHawkTheSane | nah, not at all |
| 04:44.52 | NightHawkTheSane | im glad it means another tank getting geared up |
| 04:45.15 | Corrodias | give in to your hatred, and your journey towards the dark side will be complete. |
| 04:45.18 | cbreak | we did our first 25 person raid today |
| 04:45.44 | cbreak | was fun :) but patchwerk hits like a truck. |
| 04:49.21 | NightHawkTheSane | We learned that unkilled aboms from the previous room will add on patchwerk. (i'd forgotten that..) |
| 05:01.26 | Amarande | cbreak: I'm pretty sure your average semi is pleasant compared to being hit by Patchwerk |
| 05:04.36 | cbreak | I meant a real truck, like this one: http://gruener-tag.de/lordb-blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/colani-truck.jpg |
| 05:08.20 | Thunder_Child | cbreak, thats a lifesize toy, not a real truck |
| 05:11.21 | NightHawkTheSane | your MOMs a lifesize toy |
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| 05:15.59 | Thunder_Child | # |
| 05:15.59 | Thunder_Child | # iPod Touch 2nd Gen Touch-Thru Hard Case |
| 05:16.02 | Thunder_Child | bah |
| 05:16.27 | Thunder_Child | what i was looking for: iPod Touch 2nd Gen Touch-Thru Hard Case, what was suggested: "Did you mean: ipod touch 2nd men touch-thru hard case" |
| 05:18.08 | Wobin | Clearly you need more men |
| 05:18.25 | Thunder_Child | so sayeth amazon, so it shall be |
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| 05:22.44 | Thunder_Child | wow, teh ipod touch is win |
| 05:28.17 | zarious | cidan you awake? |
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| 05:48.32 | Wobin | Thunder_Child: I like mine |
| 05:49.28 | Hirsute | I'll consider the iPod touch when they have an 80gb model for less than $400. |
| 05:50.01 | Hirsute | Until then, it may be slick, but it won't hold all my media, and that would make me a sad sandwich. |
| 05:53.57 | Amarande | how much space do the current iPod touch's have? |
| 05:54.47 | Hirsute | 30-40gb, I think |
| 06:05.31 | ScytheBlade1 | cladhaire: I hope you feel good about yourself: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13275672152&sid=1 |
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| 06:13.15 | Tem | ~ping |
| 06:13.15 | purl | ~pong |
| 06:14.32 | Thunder_Child | Amarande, 32gb max, and it goes down with formating |
| 06:14.57 | Thunder_Child | Hirsute, it would take 500gb or so to fit in all of mine |
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| 06:15.26 | Hirsute | Thunder_Child: eek |
| 06:16.33 | Thunder_Child | Hirsute, well my music videos alone take up 300gb |
| 06:17.10 | cladhaire | ScytheBlade1: I really really want to respond to that post |
| 06:17.13 | cladhaire | but I can't at the moment =/ |
| 06:17.30 | cladhaire | is that the US forums? |
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| 06:18.50 | cladhaire | Anyone mind posting for me |
| 06:18.55 | Wobin | wow |
| 06:18.59 | Wobin | Sure |
| 06:20.07 | ScytheBlade1 | I could, yeah |
| 06:20.29 | ScytheBlade1 | cladhaire: I just thought that you'd enjoy knowing that you are the reason that thread exists ;) |
| 06:22.21 | Tekkub | *hides* |
| 06:22.37 | Hirsute | Always makes me laugh to see generalized addon hate out there. |
| 06:23.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Hirsute: there's a questhelper thread up on general too. It's equally terrible |
| 06:23.26 | Hirsute | People are silly. |
| 06:24.04 | Wobin | hm |
| 06:24.12 | Wobin | This thread reminds me why I don't read the forums |
| 06:24.18 | Wobin | cause it's full of utter shit |
| 06:25.26 | Wobin | ok, going home |
| 06:25.33 | Wobin | bbiab |
| 06:26.02 | Tekkub | yea what you you idiots doing on the forums |
| 06:26.10 | Tekkub | you like to cut yourselves too? |
| 06:26.54 | pastamancer | oh god, why the hell were you reading general |
| 06:27.30 | Hirsute | Meh. I used to read the forums for entertainment. Then patch 3.0 hit and people turned into even bigger idiots. I couldn't stomach the forums any more after that. |
| 06:27.42 | Hirsute | 3.0.2, to be precise. |
| 06:27.58 | ScytheBlade1 | I read general every so often when I'm bored |
| 06:28.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Occasionally I stumble across gems such as that thread |
| 06:29.10 | Hirsute | My last favorite before that one was the thread about TrackerAlarm. |
| 06:29.21 | Hirsute | I smiled for a couple of days when it disappeared. |
| 06:29.39 | Hirsute | It didn't look like the dude got banned, however. |
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| 06:36.17 | End | godammit |
| 06:36.22 | End | I can't loot instance chests |
| 06:36.29 | Cide | cladhaire: small feature request for tomtom.. you should call :EnableMouse(false) on the waypoint arrow when the right-click menu is disabled |
| 06:36.36 | Cide | so that you can click through it |
| 06:36.39 | cladhaire | already fixed :P |
| 06:36.43 | Cide | ah, cool |
| 06:36.50 | cladhaire | ScytheBlade1: http://cladhaire.pastey.net/103995 if you wouldn't mind. |
| 06:36.56 | Cide | I guess I should update then? |
| 06:37.06 | cladhaire | hasn't been pushed |
| 06:37.10 | Cide | alright |
| 06:37.15 | cladhaire | if you use svn sure tho :P |
| 06:37.37 | Cide | I don't, but I can fix it locally if you don't mind :) |
| 06:37.49 | cladhaire | hehe that's fine :P |
| 06:37.49 | ScytheBlade1 | cladhaire: sure, sec |
| 06:38.48 | Hirsute | I could have sworn that the statistics page on the armory used to list things like "highest gold", "gold from auctions", etc. |
| 06:38.58 | cladhaire | yes, they removed it |
| 06:39.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Hirsute: did. I suspect they removed that |
| 06:39.01 | cladhaire | for privacy reasons |
| 06:39.23 | Hirsute | Bummer. |
| 06:39.27 | Hirsute | It was interesting information. |
| 06:40.03 | Thrae | Yeah, you don't want to see someone with 500,000 gold and wonder if it's all legal! |
| 06:40.14 | ScytheBlade1 | cladhaire: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13275672152&postId=132862775576&sid=1#65 |
| 06:40.36 | cladhaire | thanks mate |
| 06:40.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Sure thing |
| 06:40.55 | Hirsute | I'd just assume they were using an AH mod to help them play the markets. |
| 06:41.00 | Hirsute | And that they don't do much else. |
| 06:41.01 | Amarande | cladhaire: lemme guess, exactly the reason that I suggested they be removed |
| 06:41.10 | Amarande | namely, that it helps gold sellers find targets to hack |
| 06:41.20 | ScytheBlade1 | No, because the player base whined |
| 06:41.20 | Hirsute | Amarande: I suppose that's a good point. |
| 06:41.24 | Amarande | bah, I should go into computer security or something :S |
| 06:41.34 | ScytheBlade1 | If it magically made it easier to hack people, then it never would have appeared in the first place |
| 06:41.57 | Hirsute | Not easier to hack people, just easier to determine which targets would be the highest yield hacks. |
| 06:42.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Which equates to removing all of their gold? |
| 06:42.53 | ScytheBlade1 | There's still a gap the size of the grand canyon between pointing at people and "hacking" them |
| 06:43.40 | Hirsute | Absolutely. |
| 06:44.01 | Hirsute | I just never considered that having that information exposed might make someone a more interesting target. |
| 06:44.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Sure, of course |
| 06:44.20 | ScytheBlade1 | The same concern was voiced when Steam let other see what games you had on your account |
| 06:44.33 | ScytheBlade1 | "zomg the HACKERS! MY ACCOUNT WON'T BE MINE ANY LONGER! THANKS STEAM!" |
| 06:44.53 | Hirsute | Everyone has to worry about teh Haxxorz. |
| 06:44.54 | ScytheBlade1 | When in reality the account security was still entirely dependant on the owner being pants on head retarded or not |
| 06:45.16 | Hirsute | "pants on head retarded" just became my new favorite descriptive phrase. |
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| 06:45.39 | ScytheBlade1 | hehe |
| 06:45.52 | ScytheBlade1 | I like it |
| 06:47.19 | Hirsute | I think I might make it be the auto-response I'm considering building into the inane-trade-spam filtering addon I'm planning to make. |
| 06:47.43 | ScytheBlade1 | hehe, power to you |
| 06:47.46 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd be awesome |
| 06:48.07 | Tem | ouch |
| 06:48.20 | Hirsute | [2.Trade]<Some Retard>Anal [Penetration] |
| 06:48.26 | Hirsute | Filtered |
| 06:48.39 | Tem | venture bay dailies not so nice when 2 level 80s decide I won't be completing mine |
| 06:48.41 | Hirsute | Whisper To: <Some Retard> You sir, are pants on head retarded. |
| 06:49.15 | Hirsute | The ganking, too, shall pass. |
| 06:50.20 | Hirsute | I probably won't make it auto-respond. But thinking about doing so makes me chuckle. |
| 06:50.32 | Hirsute | Especially if I made it pull a random phrase from a table to respond with. |
| 06:51.00 | Hirsute | And add the sender to an auto-ignore/auto-insult list for the next hour or so. |
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| 06:51.08 | Tem | ganking doesn't really bother me |
| 06:51.23 | Hirsute | The fun conversations that could be had without me ever typing anything directly to that person. |
| 06:51.35 | Hirsute | Tem: Fair enough. It freaking drove me nuts. |
| 06:52.04 | Tem | it's that it was 2 level 80 blood elf dks |
| 06:52.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Hirsute: right-click someone in chat, "Send Insult" |
| 06:52.18 | Tem | that I could beat one on one any day of the week because they're fucking dumb |
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| 06:52.46 | Tem | (I can tell because it took upwards of 40 seconds for the two of them to kill me) |
| 06:53.21 | Hirsute | ScytheBlade1: It makes the misogynist in me chuckle with glee. |
| 06:53.25 | Cide | that's funny |
| 06:53.38 | Cide | it took less time than that for me to kill a 78 mage, as a 74 dk |
| 06:53.54 | Tem | yeah, Cide |
| 06:53.57 | Tem | bad players are bad |
| 06:54.02 | Hirsute | DKs=The new face-rolling class. |
| 06:54.43 | Hirsute | Anyhow. Off to dream about never seeing guild recruitment in the trade channel again. Have a good night everyone. |
| 06:55.00 | Cide | sleep is for the weak |
| 06:55.15 | Cide | I only hibernate |
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| 06:58.23 | Tekkub | sleep is for the times between hibernations |
| 06:59.33 | Tem | Oh |
| 06:59.38 | Tem | I also know they're retarded by their names |
| 07:00.00 | Tem | both of them are variations on the ever so creature "death<something>" |
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| 07:00.28 | Tem | in fact, on of them is Deathiroth |
| 07:00.30 | Tem | sigh |
| 07:00.35 | Tem | I really didn't need to notice that |
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| 07:00.43 | Tekkub | and you died to them |
| 07:00.45 | Tekkub | wow |
| 07:00.47 | Tekkub | reroll |
| 07:00.54 | Tem | fuck off and die, Tekkub |
| 07:01.03 | Tekkub | you know it's the only option |
| 07:01.04 | Tem | 2 level 80s vs a level 75 |
| 07:01.15 | Corrodias | ohly retards like puns |
| 07:01.28 | Tem | it's not a pun |
| 07:01.36 | Corrodias | only retards think there's only one option in any situation |
| 07:01.43 | Tekkub | you've been permanently soiled by a seffy wannabe |
| 07:01.47 | Tem | All names that are references to Sephiroth are FUCKING RETARDED |
| 07:02.08 | Tekkub | I go for the more obscure, and more appropriate ones |
| 07:02.15 | Tekkub | my DK is names Raogrimm :) |
| 07:02.32 | Corrodias | i used to think my least favorite players would be the griefers, the cheaters, and such |
| 07:02.47 | Tekkub | then you realized it's sephiroths? |
| 07:03.11 | Tekkub | and Legolii? |
| 07:03.12 | Corrodias | no. i learned over the course of a couple of years that the ones who truly soiled the game were those who took things so seriously that they thought badly of people when they didn't take them as seriously. |
| 07:03.20 | Corrodias | like those who get upset over someone's goofy name |
| 07:03.54 | Tekkub | there's a difference between a "goofy" name and the sephiroths and legolas' |
| 07:04.17 | Corrodias | or generate a massive ignore list of people who talk in Trade, or toss insults left and right about the other players being less mature |
| 07:04.46 | Corrodias | (note that you can't tell who gets a big list like that unless they -tell everyone about it-, which is what i really mean) |
| 07:04.47 | Tekkub | using trade in general is just a sign of bad taste |
| 07:05.16 | Tekkub | I mean, unless you're still under the illusion that trade gets done there, which is just as sad really |
| 07:05.25 | Corrodias | heh |
| 07:06.02 | Tekkub | or the DK's named Arrthass and such |
| 07:06.05 | Corrodias | well, i haven't seen it for a few months. it was usable when i played, alongside the chat, as the AH took care of most economic needs. at least, on my realm. |
| 07:06.08 | Tekkub | they're just as retarded |
| 07:06.28 | Corrodias | they've put no creativity into their names, and should strongly consider changing them |
| 07:06.44 | Tekkub | 23k gold, just bought two epics... and never been in trade for years |
| 07:06.46 | Corrodias | and wow, a humidifier really makes a big difference in the perceived temperature of this room |
| 07:06.48 | Tekkub | yea, the AH works fine |
| 07:07.37 | Tekkub | I want to see a damn DK named Artie |
| 07:07.41 | Amarande | yeah, some names probably should even be reported |
| 07:14.37 | Tem | ugh |
| 07:14.57 | Tem | wtf was I doing these dailies for |
| 07:15.07 | Tem | I can't buy anything with them |
| 07:15.20 | Tem | not one thing they sell it's worth the effort |
| 07:15.58 | Tekkub | because your OCD makes you need to do them simply because they're dailies? |
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| 07:16.35 | Tem | actually, I went down there because someone attacked the area and I got the local defense notice |
| 07:17.03 | Tem | I was expecting something like a level 74 retardin like I found the other day who couldn't take me below 75% hp before I waxed him |
| 07:17.12 | Tem | instead, I found 2 level 80 dumb knights |
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| 07:18.09 | Tekkub | and then they raped you |
| 07:18.12 | Tekkub | slooooowly |
| 07:18.48 | Tem | Oh shit |
| 07:18.50 | duaiwe | ... |
| 07:18.53 | Tem | Crusader Lord Langinga |
| 07:20.30 | Tem | s/ginga/tinga/ |
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| 07:29.16 | End | Tem: buh? |
| 07:29.30 | Cairenn | End: slouken |
| 07:29.34 | End | no I mean |
| 07:29.35 | End | whre? |
| 07:29.37 | End | where? |
| 07:29.42 | End | in game? |
| 07:30.15 | End | I have a horrible feeling I saw him and didn't notice :P |
| 07:30.22 | Amarande | Night folks :) |
| 07:30.27 | Cairenn | night Amarande |
| 07:30.29 | Cairenn | sweet dreams |
| 07:30.38 | Amarande | you too, when you go :) |
| 07:30.41 | Tem | End Zul'Drak |
| 07:30.46 | End | ah |
| 07:30.47 | Tem | Light's Breach |
| 07:31.14 | End | yeah, I definitely didn't notice >_> |
| 07:35.56 | Tem | so what the hell do I do with this Fire Extinguisher? |
| 07:35.56 | Tem | it doesn't have a weapon type |
| 07:36.00 | Tem | so I can't use any abilities with it equipped |
| 07:36.00 | End | I dunno |
| 07:36.10 | End | I didnt destroy it because I couldn't figure out what its for |
| 07:36.20 | Tem | yeah.. |
| 07:36.28 | Tem | the 15g vendor price is calling me, though |
| 07:36.54 | Tem | screw it |
| 07:36.57 | Tem | 15g for me |
| 07:36.59 | bleeter | can ya Use it on a cooking fire? |
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| 07:37.36 | Diao | nce |
| 07:38.40 | Cairenn | ? |
| 07:50.49 | Arrowmaster | this wow-achievements.com is fail, i got an IIS 404 error page |
| 07:50.59 | Arrowmaster | and fuck durcyn |
| 07:52.36 | Tekkub | lol |
| 07:52.42 | Tekkub | that's like, double fail |
| 07:53.49 | Arrowmaster | guildmate claims hes listed in the top 1000 or something on there in the world now but i dont even see where the fuck a top 1000 list is |
| 07:55.22 | End | hm, I'm probably top 2000 or so, but meh :P |
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| 08:06.12 | Cide | Tem: that's the whole point of it |
| 08:06.27 | Tem | Cide, ? |
| 08:06.44 | Cide | the fire extinguisher |
| 08:06.50 | Cide | is essentially a free 15g |
| 08:07.05 | Tem | oh |
| 08:07.09 | Tem | okidokie |
| 08:07.39 | End | it reminded me too much of the temp test item to vendor! |
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| 09:01.19 | Wobin | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37254 |
| 09:02.57 | Corrodias | i like how it lasts 5 minutes and you can only use it once per -hour- |
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| 09:03.06 | Corrodias | i never understood why they did that... |
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| 09:36.42 | Nechckn | I just got exaulted w/ Timbermaw |
| 09:37.13 | Elkano | gz :) |
| 09:37.17 | Nechckn | Question... it says 999/1000 exaulted.. is that normal? |
| 09:37.21 | Elkano | yeah |
| 09:37.43 | Nechckn | man... I'll be cleaning furblog blood from my rogue for days! |
| 09:37.50 | Nechckn | hehehe.. thank you, Elkano |
| 09:38.16 | Elkano | did Shattered Sun yesterday ^^' |
| 09:38.23 | Nechckn | Oh wow |
| 09:38.34 | Nechckn | Well, yours is more impressive... |
| 09:38.50 | Nechckn | I still get the little timbermaw to hang with me, though. =) |
| 09:38.54 | Elkano | well, I was only about 1k rep short for exalted |
| 09:40.17 | Nechckn | it's always that last bit... I've never actually been to exaulted for any of them, so I'm pleased, anyway. =) |
| 09:40.29 | Nechckn | I am after the ambassador title thinger |
| 09:40.48 | Nechckn | plus, I went from 53-57 just churning through bear men |
| 09:45.49 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 09:47.17 | Nechckn | not with any of the non-major city reps, anyway.. =) |
| 09:47.39 | Nechckn | Has anyone done the quest to kill the final demon to get the timbermaw assistant? |
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| 10:15.42 | Nechckn | Ha ha... a horde 67 was in Timbermaw when I went to get the final quest... |
| 10:15.57 | Nechckn | she was talking to the dude that gives the quest, so I waved, etc |
| 10:16.15 | Nechckn | she took off.. I grabbed the quest, went to cave and she was there killing the demon |
| 10:16.39 | Nechckn | She was getting hammered pretty bad, so instead of standing back, I helped her. |
| 10:17.05 | Nechckn | Then, BAM, what do you know- even though I am a gnome and she was undead- we both got the drop! |
| 10:17.49 | Nechckn | So... once every decade, being nice pays off. Maybe twice... |
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| 10:20.09 | Wobin | Corrodias: It's like the train set |
| 10:20.18 | Wobin | (which btw, is still the best toy ever) |
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| 10:23.12 | Nechckn | The flute is pretty neat, too... |
| 10:23.20 | Nechckn | but, yeah, I do like the train set |
| 10:36.15 | Arrowmaster | somebody droped a train set while we were buffing for malygos, best item ever |
| 10:36.36 | Adys | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=7120153798&sid=1 |
| 10:37.18 | Arrowmaster | rofl |
| 10:38.43 | Kalroth | haha |
| 10:46.37 | sylvanaar | if someone has the lates 5.3 of um...a popular disasm, i want to try it pst me |
| 10:47.34 | Kalroth | IDA has made a new version? :) |
| 10:47.53 | sylvanaar | they were bought out by hex-ways |
| 10:48.04 | sylvanaar | and they released an update to 5.2 |
| 10:48.43 | sylvanaar | AND my support ended in august |
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| 10:49.56 | Kalroth | owned! |
| 10:51.04 | Kalroth | I've never tried the 5.x serie though |
| 10:51.21 | Kalroth | But I've spent a lot of months in 4.2 (I think) |
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| 11:00.16 | sylvanaar | i have 5.3 |
| 11:00.20 | sylvanaar | ,2 |
| 11:00.25 | sylvanaar | its very nice |
| 11:00.48 | sylvanaar | esp the new debugger |
| 11:01.20 | sylvanaar | and they repllaced it completely in 5.3 |
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| 11:45.36 | Olorin | anyone know an addon that lists bags like he auction house but more compact, i can never find my quest items lol, got bagnon which is quite good since its got search but.... |
| 11:55.50 | cbreak | like sanity2? |
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| 12:14.51 | Shirik | ohohoho |
| 12:14.55 | Shirik | big mistake |
| 12:16.40 | batrick | o ya? |
| 12:16.47 | Shirik | I was messing around on a website and found a ... little bug. You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'hello': SELECT * FROM prog_guilds WHERE guildID = 4;hello; |
| 12:19.23 | Fisker- | xD? |
| 12:19.47 | nevcairiel | looks like reading an integer without validating the var content, worst mistake to do |
| 12:20.14 | batrick | how terribad |
| 12:20.21 | batrick | batbot: right? |
| 12:20.22 | batbot | batrick, \(o_O)/ |
| 12:20.34 | batrick | haven't taught batbot sql yet |
| 12:20.38 | batrick | not his fault |
| 12:20.43 | Fisker- | batrick wanna make out? |
| 12:20.48 | batrick | hell ya |
| 12:20.55 | Fisker- | awesome |
| 12:25.48 | Shirik | I just use mysqli these days |
| 12:25.52 | Shirik | so much better for security |
| 12:26.01 | Shirik | Don't have to worry about all these injection attacks |
| 12:26.43 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/beach_balls.jpg <- ahahahahahahaha |
| 12:26.49 | mikma | lesson learned |
| 12:27.30 | batrick | I can't imagine how painful that must have beeen when he stood up |
| 12:28.05 | mikma | imho, it's not nearly as painful as kick in the groin |
| 12:28.21 | batrick | depends how quickly he got up imo |
| 12:28.38 | batrick | or "tried to get up" lol |
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| 12:29.55 | batrick | man yesterday's episode of heroes has restored my faith in the series |
| 12:30.08 | Olorin | that makes ya eyes water lol |
| 12:30.19 | mikma | batrick: what season is going on? |
| 12:30.25 | batrick | season 3? |
| 12:30.37 | mikma | and when you losted your faith? |
| 12:30.54 | batrick | mid season 3 |
| 12:31.11 | batrick | it seemed like they were moving aimlessly plot wise |
| 12:31.12 | mikma | mmkay, i lost my hope near the end of season 1 |
| 12:31.46 | batrick | actually season 2 sucked pretty hard too so a little earlier i guess |
| 12:32.11 | mikma | i've seen like 4 episodes of season2 and that was it for me |
| 12:32.22 | mikma | s01 ending was great, great flop |
| 12:32.27 | krka | i lost the faith fairly early in season 3 |
| 12:32.37 | krka | i blamed season 2 on the strike |
| 12:32.46 | batrick | ^ |
| 12:32.52 | krka | season 1 actually had a coherent plot, that was nice |
| 12:33.03 | batrick | sylar is back in business so it's going to get much better me thinks |
| 12:33.37 | Shirik | can you write mail across factions? |
| 12:33.48 | batrick | no |
| 12:34.29 | Shirik | what's the fastest way to get to a mailbox? |
| 12:34.32 | Shirik | I can't create a DK |
| 12:34.40 | mikma | shirik: create a gnome |
| 12:34.49 | mikma | or human |
| 12:34.54 | mikma | human is closest to mailbox |
| 12:35.07 | mikma | goldshire is just outside the starting area |
| 12:35.10 | krka | ne is fairly close too, afaik |
| 12:35.11 | batrick | human is right |
| 12:35.21 | batrick | nah NE is longer walk than human |
| 12:35.42 | krka | or create a new char and ask for a summon |
| 12:36.11 | Shirik | no one to ask for summon from :) |
| 12:37.28 | mikma | what are you abusing now |
| 12:37.32 | Fisker- | fail Mikk |
| 12:37.35 | Fisker- | fail mikma * |
| 12:37.42 | Fisker- | what about dousing your nuts in cold water :E |
| 12:37.44 | Fisker- | should've worked |
| 12:37.47 | Shirik | aww |
| 12:37.48 | Rageon | is this correct you can send these to a level 1 chacarter? http://www.wowhead.com/?item=42949 |
| 12:37.52 | Shirik | 4th anniversary over? |
| 12:37.57 | Rageon | powerlevel for sure. |
| 12:38.03 | Shirik | yes Rageon |
| 12:38.07 | mikma | ya, but try walking in the ocean with beachchair stucked in your balls |
| 12:38.10 | Rageon | wow that's prittey neat |
| 12:38.12 | Shirik | they change stats based on level |
| 12:38.49 | Fisker- | indeed mikma |
| 12:38.50 | Shirik | gdit |
| 12:38.53 | Shirik | I don't have 30 copper to send mail |
| 12:38.53 | mikma | lols, http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/september/upgradeitem_11.jpg |
| 12:39.01 | mikma | apparently the mail shoulders change into plate too! |
| 12:40.56 | nevcairiel | yeah they do |
| 12:41.10 | Rageon | oh that soundsl ovely |
| 12:41.53 | cbreak | pay for a dalaran portal |
| 12:41.59 | cbreak | instant-everywhere |
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| 12:59.05 | Mikk | and there fisker- goes again pinging me |
| 12:59.21 | Mikk | The definition of intelligence: Being able to learn from past experiences |
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| 13:11.03 | Wobin | Rageon: I hear it scales =P |
| 13:11.34 | Rageon | Wobin: the 10% exp gear |
| 13:11.37 | Rageon | yeah sounds awsome |
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| 13:43.21 | Wobin | http://www.yankodesign.com/ is such a great site |
| 13:43.33 | Wobin | but every time I see a design I get disappointed cause I -can't- buy it easily =P |
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| 13:55.41 | Uhmnet | depends on where you live, doesn't it? |
| 13:55.52 | Uhmnet | Here it's just cold and raining =/ |
| 13:57.40 | Lopeppeppy | Northern New York, messy slushy commute, a bit of ice under the slush in some areas. |
| 14:04.11 | mikma | Oe's Scourge Strike hits Halof the Deathbringer for 10034 Shadow.(Critical) |
| 14:04.22 | Lopeppeppy | Whoof. |
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| 14:05.26 | mikma | you get the sick buff in that quest called The Battle for Crusaders' Pinnacle that triples your damage, or so |
| 14:08.32 | Lopeppeppy | Ah. |
| 14:09.44 | mikma | http://matin.maapallo.org/site.pl/selain/?c=smbc&i=512 |
| 14:11.54 | batrick | Sorta annoyed this professor wants me to print out 40 pages of code and output when he has digital copies of both |
| 14:11.54 | Shiibot | New WoW-EU Server Alert: This Wednesday there will be a scheduled maintenance. Please note that all European realms will be offline from 03:00 until 11:00, Paris time (CET).. . Thank you for your patience and understanding.. . 03/12 FREE MIGRATION |
| 14:11.54 | Shiibot | The following free migration is scheduled to last until Tuesday, December 9th. . |
| 14:11.54 | Shiibot | To the NEW realm named Chamber of Aspects: Anachronos, Bronze Dragonflight, Bronzebeard, Darkspear, Ghostlands, Hellfire, Khadgar, Kilrogg, Kul Tiras, Nagrand, Terenas, Wildhammer. . Drak'thul, Grim Batol, Sylvanas --> Bladefist |
| 14:11.57 | batrick | think of the trees! |
| 14:14.53 | Lopeppeppy | Can you print to a printer that does double sided, at least? |
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| 14:16.33 | batrick | if the printer in the lab isn't being retarded, yes |
| 14:17.15 | Lopeppeppy | That's good at least. 20 pages is still 20 pages, but it's better than 40. |
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| 14:24.52 | Shiibot | New WoW-EU Server Alert: This Wednesday there will be a scheduled maintenance. Please note that all European realms will be offline from 03:00 until 11:00, Paris time (CET).. |
| 14:24.52 | Shiibot | In addition the European website and forums will not be available during this time. . . Thank you for your patience and understanding.. . 03/12 FREE MIGRATION |
| 14:24.52 | Shiibot | The following free migration is scheduled to last until Tuesday, December 9th. . |
| 14:26.06 | Adys | You are a founding member of: PH MODEL TASK FORTYTWO! |
| 14:26.08 | Adys | \o/ |
| 14:26.15 | Lopeppeppy | Yay? |
| 14:26.27 | Adys | Im reserving guild names |
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| 14:28.49 | Elkano | Adys, that one is really f#&king win ^^ |
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| 14:35.40 | Jelly-School | :( |
| 14:35.52 | Jelly-School | 1 exam down. |
| 14:35.54 | Jelly-School | 2 to go. |
| 14:35.59 | Jelly-School | What's going on with your day? |
| 14:37.08 | Lopeppeppy | Winter weather driving to work... much of suck. |
| 14:37.15 | nevcairiel | hey foxlit, do you mind if i borrow your usable-quest-item detection from OPie for a Quest-Item bar for Bartender? :) |
| 14:37.19 | Lopeppeppy | I'm still cranky about it an hour later. :( |
| 14:37.36 | Jelly-School | :( You know, it's not nearls as cold in Tejas and we definitely don't have that white stuff on the ground. |
| 14:37.58 | Jelly-School | s/nearls/nearly/ |
| 14:38.07 | Adys | Elkano: yeah cant have numbers in it meh |
| 14:39.22 | Lopeppeppy | Jelly-dear, I hear that about Florida and California too. *grin* |
| 14:39.49 | Jelly-School | But Texas has one thing those two states don't -- meh! |
| 14:40.00 | Jelly-School | ...and Malreth and Lunessa, if you wanna get technical but yeah. |
| 14:42.20 | Lopeppeppy | Three male programmers/gamers in one state, it's going to implode from the strain. *fond hug* |
| 14:42.54 | Jelly-School | That's the great thing about Texas; it's big enough to house all of our egos. |
| 14:43.07 | Lopeppeppy | You sure? |
| 14:43.09 | Lopeppeppy | :P |
| 14:43.17 | Lopeppeppy | malreth's is pretty big, I thinks. |
| 14:43.38 | Jelly-School | Well, the buildings hurt sometimes but for the most part, we're good. :P |
| 14:43.54 | Jelly-School | On a clear day, I can see Malreth's orb coming from the south. |
| 14:44.06 | Lopeppeppy | What color is it? |
| 14:44.15 | Jelly-School | pink with purple stripes |
| 14:44.25 | Lopeppeppy | Smexy. And Lunessa's? |
| 14:44.59 | Jelly-School | I'm not sure. Malreth's blocks the view |
| 14:45.17 | Lopeppeppy | Yours? |
| 14:45.43 | Jelly-School | Black as the night! I have a ninja ego. |
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| 14:48.50 | Seerah | hehe |
| 14:49.36 | Seerah | morning :) |
| 14:50.53 | Jelly-School | Hmm. I forgot to check my lottery ticket. |
| 14:51.33 | Jelly-School | ...calling in Rich from work this Friday would be awesome. |
| 14:51.40 | Lopeppeppy | Sure would be. |
| 14:51.59 | Seerah | night :) |
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| 14:52.10 | Jelly-School | Are we talking about like ... sleep or like ... "Lunessa Sleep" ? |
| 14:52.49 | Lopeppeppy | sleep sleep, not "a guys version of two girls "sleeping" " |
| 14:53.07 | Jelly-School | Damn. As per usual, my imagination > rl\ |
| 14:53.31 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, sorry dear. |
| 14:53.37 | krka | Thread.sleep(8*3600*1000); |
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| 14:55.24 | Jelly-School | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:55.39 | Jelly-School | ...and just like in 10-man, not one tank piece dropped. :( |
| 14:55.57 | Lopeppeppy | Nice. |
| 14:56.13 | Jelly-School | Yeah .. |
| 14:56.13 | Olorin | anyone good with stats etc.. does it really matter to the proc heal on judgement spells how often they fire if you use a 2.6 delay weapon or 1.7delay, ie will it be about teh same healing over the duration of a fight or...? |
| 14:57.27 | Jelly-School | I'm not sire if judgements are PPM or not; that would be the determining factor though although I suspect that the faster the weapon, the better because it seems that since I went from my 2.6 to a 1.6, my procs have increased but it could just be me. |
| 14:57.31 | Jelly-School | sure* |
| 14:58.25 | Olorin | not sure either, just made 1h axe thats 91 dps not 84 of my sword but I dont wanna cripple my heals/mana regen |
| 14:59.07 | Jelly-School | Well, you can get recount which will track how many times you heal yourself with either judgement or seal and then just time a battle and do some math. |
| 14:59.49 | Olorin | ah good thinking :) have it installed but didnt think it had that facility, thanks |
| 15:00.04 | Jelly-School | Just make sure your skill is equal (maxed preferably, obviously) and that the mobs are the same, if not identical to eachother |
| 15:00.21 | Jelly-School | Yeah. Go to the healing done and click on your name. It should open a new frame with more detailed stats. |
| 15:01.34 | Olorin | ah true, I'm still working on 1h axe, was about 150 at 73 lol |
| 15:01.43 | Jelly-School | hehe |
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| 15:03.34 | Jelly-School | To be honest, I used http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44735 until I got my http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37401 and never had threat issues in 10-man Naxx and 1 wing of 25-man Naxx (but I was only OT and replaced the axe after the first trip) |
| 15:04.23 | Jelly-School | So while I can attest to seeing a nice increase of JoL/SoL procs, I don't think you'll be necessarily gimping yourself by using a slower weapon. |
| 15:05.34 | Jelly-School | Taken from Maintankadin: Q: What weapon do I use? A: Tanking weapon. Spell-power weapons are for healing, not tanking. Weapon speed is irrelevant. |
| 15:06.53 | Olorin | I suppose so, though for now I solo/duo but havnt really gotten into dungeon grouping... |
| 15:18.30 | Fisker- | damn Jelly-School |
| 15:18.40 | Fisker- | i'm sure a lot of warlocks and mages are whining now :( |
| 15:19.07 | Jelly-School | Eh? |
| 15:19.29 | Fisker- | "Spell-power weapons are for healing" |
| 15:19.36 | Lopeppeppy | They are. *grin* |
| 15:19.42 | Jelly-School | lol |
| 15:20.02 | Jelly-School | Our priest got a +hit weapon the other night. Was kind of sad. |
| 15:20.08 | Jelly-School | Well, one of our priests. |
| 15:21.43 | Lopeppeppy | I'm just glad that tankadins no longer have to fight for spellpower weapons. |
| 15:21.54 | Jelly-School | lol |
| 15:22.01 | Jelly-School | I straight up jacked my Amani Punisher |
| 15:23.56 | Olorin | someone told me sta is converted to spellpower on paladin but I cant see where thats indicated |
| 15:24.13 | Jelly-School | It's like Tier 7 or Tier 8 in your talent tree |
| 15:24.14 | Mikk | Olorin: it's a talent in the prot tree |
| 15:24.41 | Mikk | Jelly-School: actually, on razuvious in naxx25 there's a case for +hit on priests :P |
| 15:24.58 | Jelly-School | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=53592 |
| 15:25.05 | Jelly-School | Yeah ... we failed hard on him last night |
| 15:25.23 | Jelly-School | 2 priests = 2 healers gone too |
| 15:25.31 | Jelly-School | Since our SP decided not to show up :( |
| 15:25.41 | Mikk | mmm we ended up 2healing that with a druid + priest |
| 15:25.43 | Mikk | was teh funz! |
| 15:26.02 | Jelly-School | CoH / WG lulz |
| 15:26.05 | Olorin | ah touched by light, wondered where that was |
| 15:26.06 | Mikk | mhm |
| 15:28.38 | cbreak | traveling is expensive :( |
| 15:28.52 | cbreak | IRL that is |
| 15:30.57 | Jelly-School | Ok. Going to go take my spanish exam. be back in a bit. |
| 15:31.12 | Lopeppeppy | Good luck, dear. |
| 15:31.22 | Jelly-School | :) Thanks |
| 15:33.16 | Shirik | Mikk: Honestly, I haven't had any problems with +hit |
| 15:33.25 | Shirik | However, I should point out that some of my gear is +hit accidentally |
| 15:35.40 | Kaelten | g'morning |
| 15:36.22 | Hirsute | what's that breaking news url again? |
| 15:36.22 | Hirsute | ~breakingnews |
| 15:37.09 | nevcairiel | ~wowalert |
| 15:37.10 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 15:37.32 | Hirsute | nevcairiel: Thanks! |
| 15:37.55 | Lopeppeppy | RAWR! |
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| 15:46.25 | Shirik | Is "SELECT 1" a valid query? |
| 15:46.43 | krka | yes |
| 15:46.59 | krka | in atleast one query language anyway |
| 15:47.10 | foxlit | should be. |
| 15:47.30 | Shirik | This is for MySQL |
| 15:47.47 | Shirik | I found a security hole on a site that I'm probing before I give details to the webmaster, and I'm playing around with it and I came across a strange issue |
| 15:48.28 | Shirik | It's a classic SQL injection attack, and if I do ";SELECT 1" I get an error, but if I do (SELECT 1) (a subquery) I don't. Example: |
| 15:48.44 | Shirik | Error Getting Result: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near ';SELECT 1' at line 1 |
| 15:48.44 | Shirik | SELECT * FROM prog_guilds WHERE guildID = 3;SELECT 1; |
| 15:49.00 | Shirik | Whereas if I change it to be "SELECT * FROM prog_guilds WHERE guildID = (SELECT 3)" it works fine |
| 15:49.32 | Shirik | And I'm kinda confused as to why that first one would fail |
| 15:49.46 | foxlit | Your first query fails? |
| 15:49.56 | foxlit | SELECT ... WHERE guildID = ; SELECT 3 |
| 15:49.56 | Shirik | yeah the error is for that first query |
| 15:50.11 | Shirik | SELECT * FROM prog_guilds WHERE guildID = 3;SELECT 1; |
| 15:50.12 | Shirik | that fails |
| 15:50.14 | Shirik | with the above erro |
| 15:50.16 | Shirik | error |
| 15:50.17 | foxlit | Also, depending on the driver, multiple queries may not be supported. |
| 15:50.21 | Shirik | ah |
| 15:50.45 | foxlit | (The usual PHP approach of mysql_query('BLAH') only works for single queries, iirc) |
| 15:50.56 | Shirik | that would do it then |
| 15:51.03 | Shirik | it's still just as bad though as I can run any subquery |
| 15:51.20 | foxlit | "mysql_query() sends an unique query (multiple queries are not supported) to the currently active database on the server that's associated with the specified link_identifier ." << http://dk2.php.net/mysql_query |
| 15:51.32 | Shirik | ok then that's it |
| 15:54.32 | Fisker- | injection attacks are fun |
| 15:55.26 | Fisker- | Especially when we were doing C#/ASP.Net |
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| 15:55.44 | Fisker- | sanity checks were probably some of the last lessons we learned |
| 15:56.00 | Shirik | are the forums down? |
| 15:56.05 | Fisker- | what forums? |
| 15:56.07 | Shirik | wow |
| 15:56.12 | Shirik | I can't log in |
| 15:56.36 | Fisker- | don't got access to the US ones, but they're up here |
| 15:56.41 | Fisker- | dunno about login though |
| 15:57.20 | foxlit | "Due to a security bug found in the PHP 5.2.7 release, it has been removed from distribution. The bug affects configurations where magic_quotes_gpc is enabled, because it remains off even when set to on." |
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| 15:58.41 | Shirik | magic quotes is a bitch anyway |
| 15:58.49 | Shirik | People rely on it too much, and it only causes problems |
| 15:58.52 | Shirik | it makes people lazy |
| 15:59.24 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, today is Tuesday, there are always forum issues. |
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| 16:01.39 | Shirik | yes, f register_globals too |
| 16:02.03 | zenzelezz | I have to maintain a 2000-ish PHP4 project that loves register_globals :-| |
| 16:03.22 | Shirik | (Ignore that magic_quotes_gpc is on, I just haven't bothered to turn it off due to no reason yet) |
| 16:03.40 | Shirik | but |
| 16:03.41 | Shirik | register_globalsOffOff |
| 16:03.43 | foxlit | Shirik: .htaccess, anyway. |
| 16:03.47 | Fisker- | magic_quotes_gpc is on Shirik |
| 16:03.49 | Fisker- | hohooh |
| 16:03.51 | Fisker- | i am having fun |
| 16:05.14 | foxlit | Environment: User: root |
| 16:05.20 | Shirik | yeah.... |
| 16:05.37 | Shirik | what? |
| 16:05.38 | foxlit | Gogo exec("rm -fr /") |
| 16:06.01 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 16:06.06 | Shirik | where do you see this? |
| 16:06.21 | foxlit | What, root? |
| 16:06.44 | Shirik | oh wow it is running as root |
| 16:06.45 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 16:06.53 | Fisker- | :D |
| 16:07.06 | Fisker- | I thought it automatically would bitch at you for doing that |
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| 16:08.46 | Lyn | anyone knows a alliance guild on eu which need a dk and a def warrior? :x |
| 16:09.36 | [SW]Dodge | Lyn: go and play healer ;) |
| 16:09.42 | Lyn | na.. |
| 16:09.43 | [SW]Dodge | we need some :P |
| 16:10.57 | Lopeppeppy | Hah! |
| 16:11.04 | cog|work | HAI2U! |
| 16:11.05 | Shirik | uh |
| 16:11.08 | Shirik | foxlit? |
| 16:11.15 | foxlit | Shirik? |
| 16:11.29 | Shirik | wtf >< |
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| 16:11.40 | Shirik | why does it say in one place it's running as apache and another it's running as root |
| 16:14.16 | foxlit | What's the other place? |
| 16:14.23 | Shirik | on that same page |
| 16:14.30 | foxlit | Can only see apache as references to the host software |
| 16:14.34 | foxlit | not user |
| 16:14.38 | Shirik | User/Group apache(1000)/1000 |
| 16:16.03 | foxlit | mm, who knows where it's taking the ENV stuff from |
| 16:16.20 | foxlit | "These variables are imported into PHP's global namespace from the environment under which the PHP parser is running. Many are provided by the shell under which PHP is running and different systems are likely running different kinds of shells, a definitive list is impossible." |
| 16:16.30 | Trixer | Man, I went and spent the night with a friend of mine, and me and her were werstleing and it looks like I got in a fight with like 50 cats.. |
| 16:19.42 | Shirik | oops |
| 16:19.46 | Shirik | ok don't do that |
| 16:20.23 | Shirik | tried doing chmod +s /etc/sbin/apache2 with it chowned to apache2 |
| 16:20.23 | Lyn | [SW]Dodge, where are you playing? |
| 16:20.32 | [SW]Dodge | senjin eu |
| 16:20.35 | Shirik | It got pissed about not being able to bind to ports anymore |
| 16:20.39 | foxlit | +s? |
| 16:20.50 | Shirik | isn't that suid? |
| 16:20.59 | foxlit | I have no idea :) |
| 16:20.59 | Lyn | ah |
| 16:21.03 | Shirik | ah |
| 16:21.10 | Trixer | ah |
| 16:21.14 | Shirik | forces it to run as the user that owns it |
| 16:21.46 | Shirik | (this allows you to do strange things, like have it owned by root but executable by everyone so that the program gets root permissions without giving the user root permissions) |
| 16:21.57 | Shirik | Or in my case, have it execute as apache even if it is executed by root |
| 16:22.04 | Shirik | that was bad though |
| 16:22.23 | foxlit | apache likely doesn't even have read access to most of your website |
| 16:22.35 | foxlit | Let alone write :) |
| 16:22.50 | Shirik | well this is bothering me now |
| 16:22.54 | Shirik | why does it says the environment is root |
| 16:23.16 | foxlit | Perhaps apache itself was started by root? |
| 16:23.27 | Shirik | well it was started by init.d |
| 16:23.51 | Trixer | have you checked to see how init.d is running it? |
| 16:24.10 | nevcairiel | apache itself changes its user to the one configured in the apache config |
| 16:24.13 | nevcairiel | checked there? =P |
| 16:24.17 | Shirik | well, init.d would definitely run it as root |
| 16:24.22 | Shirik | but as nevcairiel says, it changes to the specified user |
| 16:24.26 | Shirik | and in httpd.conf it says: |
| 16:24.31 | Shirik | User apache |
| 16:24.31 | Shirik | Group apache |
| 16:24.36 | nevcairiel | the user exists, yes? |
| 16:24.45 | Shirik | I hope so, or all of these files don't have a user |
| 16:25.04 | Trixer | ohh mystery of the haunted linux system... |
| 16:25.06 | nevcairiel | oh btw |
| 16:25.10 | Trixer | Who murdred the files user! |
| 16:25.13 | Shirik | apache:x:1000:1000::/home/apache:/bin/bash |
| 16:25.19 | nevcairiel | its perfectly normal to have *one* apache task running as root |
| 16:25.22 | nevcairiel | started by pid 1 |
| 16:25.28 | nevcairiel | all other tasks are started as your apache user |
| 16:25.38 | nevcairiel | with parent = that parent task |
| 16:25.45 | Shirik | That's how it is right now, according to ps -le |
| 16:26.33 | nevcairiel | http://pastey.net/104025 |
| 16:26.37 | nevcairiel | thats what ihave, basically |
| 16:26.40 | nevcairiel | and thats wrong, how? |
| 16:27.24 | nevcairiel | hm wow that thign is running over a year =P |
| 16:27.43 | Fisker- | nevcairiel my friend |
| 16:27.44 | Shirik | http://pastey.net/104026 |
| 16:27.45 | Fisker- | my AWESOME FRIEND |
| 16:27.46 | Shirik | That's mine |
| 16:27.55 | Fisker- | giev link to that german hardware site |
| 16:27.58 | Shirik | but, nevcairiel, foxlit pointed out my phpinfo page states that it is running as root |
| 16:28.05 | Shirik | http://secure.heresiarchguild.com/phpinfo.php |
| 16:28.06 | nevcairiel | huh |
| 16:28.19 | nevcairiel | uid 1000 was your apache, right |
| 16:28.23 | Shirik | yes |
| 16:29.07 | nevcairiel | hehe my phpinfo doesnt fill the user var under environment |
| 16:29.35 | nevcairiel | i guess thats soem quirk of your shell |
| 16:29.39 | nevcairiel | setting those vars |
| 16:29.44 | nevcairiel | or am i missing something? |
| 16:30.03 | nevcairiel | all it outputs with root in it are the environment vars from the invoking shell |
| 16:31.11 | nevcairiel | http://dev.c-maxx.net/php.php |
| 16:31.12 | nevcairiel | thats mine |
| 16:31.50 | Shirik | so why does it do that >< |
| 16:32.08 | Shirik | maybe I should jail apache instead of having it use bash |
| 16:32.16 | Shirik | shouldn't matter though |
| 16:32.59 | Anaral | Okay I have LibQuixote-2.0 in both the libs folder of Everyquest and in my addons folder, yet Everyquest keeps saying that it's not... |
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| 16:47.42 | durcyn | Arrowmaster: that's not polite =( |
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| 16:50.03 | Trixer | anyone here do any miniture wargaming like warhammer 40k or warhammer? |
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| 16:51.44 | Trixer | ok could anyone perhaps explain a little more detail about what a painting method for models called "washing" is? |
| 16:53.01 | Lopeppeppy | Washing for painting involves using watered down paint, so it's not a solid coat, more a slightly transparent wash that allows a background/underneath color to show through. |
| 16:53.13 | Lopeppeppy | Not sure how that adapts to models, but that's the basic for when I do walls or staining that way. |
| 16:53.47 | Shirik | I used to Trixer |
| 16:53.52 | Shirik | I <3ed 40k |
| 16:53.58 | Shirik | washing is like |
| 16:54.05 | Shirik | you use a really watered down paint |
| 16:54.10 | Shirik | it's a good w... Lopeppeppy never answered |
| 16:54.14 | Shirik | already* |
| 16:54.17 | Shirik | :( |
| 16:54.32 | Shirik | It's a good way to, example, put like a "Dirt" look on your armor or something |
| 16:54.44 | Shirik | you would paint the armor "new" and then put on the extra texture, etc. |
| 16:54.45 | Trixer | *nods* |
| 16:54.52 | Trixer | I was looking for how to od it |
| 16:54.55 | Trixer | not what it does but thanks :P |
| 16:54.59 | Shirik | GW sells washes I think |
| 16:55.22 | Trixer | yeah |
| 16:55.23 | Trixer | they do |
| 16:55.53 | Trixer | Im debating on picking up some 40k models just to paint them up nice |
| 16:56.14 | Trixer | none in this area plays its like a 2 hour drive to anywhere were they have a hobby shop.. but I kind of just want to paint them lol |
| 16:56.19 | Shirik | eldar ftw |
| 16:56.56 | Trixer | been there done the eldar |
| 16:56.57 | Trixer | and nids |
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| 17:05.17 | pastamancer | bah, don't buy a wash, just dilute your own paint |
| 17:06.17 | Lopeppeppy | Seriously, it's just water or oil (depending on the paint type) |
| 17:06.44 | Trixer | right right |
| 17:06.51 | Trixer | but how do you wash something? |
| 17:06.58 | pastamancer | with a paintbrush |
| 17:07.00 | Trixer | Do you just paint it over the model like it was normal paint? |
| 17:07.03 | pastamancer | yup |
| 17:07.07 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. |
| 17:07.13 | pastamancer | and it'll only stick in the crevices |
| 17:07.17 | Trixer | ahh ok |
| 17:07.26 | pastamancer | you can then blot it with a paper towel if you want things splotchy |
| 17:07.41 | Lopeppeppy | As Shirik said, it's usually an overcoat for another color, or if not over a base coat, meant to highlight cracks/folds/flaws. |
| 17:07.52 | Trixer | *nods* |
| 17:07.53 | Trixer | ok! |
| 17:08.02 | pastamancer | basically you're diluting the paint so it'll flow into all the nooks and crannies and then just let it dry there |
| 17:08.22 | Lopeppeppy | Buy some scrap pipe of the same metal from a hardware store, experiment on that. |
| 17:08.51 | pastamancer | just get a bag of cheap pewter figurines |
| 17:09.03 | pastamancer | like the d&d knockoff stuff |
| 17:09.23 | Trixer | right |
| 17:10.07 | Trixer | well I mean I can paint decently enough.. like my models have never looked bad |
| 17:10.15 | Trixer | I just never got into the advanced sides of painting yeah know? |
| 17:10.40 | Trixer | highlights, washing, stuff like that.. Ive done a bit of dry brushing to show like rust on stuff.. |
| 17:10.49 | Lopeppeppy | *nod* Practice is fun. |
| 17:10.56 | pastamancer | washing is really easy :) |
| 17:11.24 | Trixer | Yeah I might buy the newest warhammer boxxed set just to give me plenty of models to practice on |
| 17:11.55 | pastamancer | can't you get something cheaper than GDW stuff for practice? |
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| 17:12.34 | pastamancer | I never practiced in ral partha stuff, but there was always lots of cheap pewter stuff in the next display over |
| 17:12.47 | Trixer | Im ordering online |
| 17:12.54 | Trixer | there arent any hobby shops even kind of close to here |
| 17:13.08 | Trixer | that would think of selling this stuff lest they get run out of town with flaming pitch forks |
| 17:13.57 | Lopeppeppy | I'm tellin' ya, get some cheap pipe remnants from a local hardware store to practice on. :) |
| 17:14.42 | Trixer | ok ok lope I will |
| 17:14.47 | Trixer | but I dont even know what im practising yet |
| 17:14.48 | Trixer | lol |
| 17:15.33 | Lopeppeppy | Which is exactly why you should NOT practice on your expensive miniatures. :) |
| 17:15.56 | Trixer | lol |
| 17:16.05 | Trixer | They really arent that expensive.... |
| 17:16.31 | Trixer | I really just want to sit down and paint them |
| 17:16.41 | Trixer | I dont want to have to worry about playing with pipes and other figures just to learn to paint them |
| 17:17.03 | Trixer | The ones I really want to paint.. and do a good job on.. like the troll I would save until later |
| 17:17.09 | Trixer | http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1430009&prodId=prod1160007&rootCatGameStyle=wh |
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| 17:18.47 | Lopeppeppy | Your hobby, hop to it however you think best. |
| 17:18.59 | Trixer | lol |
| 17:19.15 | Trixer | Im just suddenly feeling over welmed aobut it... |
| 17:19.24 | Trixer | all I wanna do is paint mintures all sexah like these guys... |
| 17:19.26 | Trixer | lol |
| 17:19.35 | Hirsute | <--Thinking about trying to get an table-top game going over the holidays. Could be fun. |
| 17:19.54 | Lopeppeppy | Being good at a detail craft takes practice, sad to say. |
| 17:20.17 | Trixer | Hirsute: Its really fun if you can ever get an opponent |
| 17:20.35 | Hirsute | There's a gaming shop nearby that often has games. |
| 17:20.41 | Trixer | Lope: Yeah, I agree..its really not the practise part that bothers me, its the sad feeling of me knowning I have no artist ability setting in. |
| 17:20.48 | Hirsute | Well, 30-40 minutes away. |
| 17:20.51 | Trixer | Hirsute: If thats the case you defently should go |
| 17:21.01 | Lopeppeppy | technique of painting does not equal artistic ability. |
| 17:21.20 | Trixer | Lope: please explain how and why? |
| 17:21.22 | zenzelezz | sometimes technique is all it takes |
| 17:21.23 | Hirsute | Cool thing is, my wife likes table-top gaming, too. Now to find someone to watch the kids... |
| 17:21.35 | Lopeppeppy | exactly, zenzelezz. |
| 17:21.51 | Trixer | It takes artist ability to know which techniques to use |
| 17:21.54 | Trixer | to make a model look good... |
| 17:22.00 | Lopeppeppy | Nope. Just reading carefully. |
| 17:22.03 | zenzelezz | Trixer: depends on the subject |
| 17:22.06 | Trixer | Hirsute: Well heck why not get them involved and bring them along? |
| 17:22.13 | Trixer | Zen: We are talking table top minitures |
| 17:22.17 | Trixer | lope: explain? |
| 17:22.24 | zenzelezz | Trixer: maybe you are |
| 17:22.29 | Hirsute | Trixer: the boy's 2 years old, and my daughter is 9 months. |
| 17:22.30 | Lopeppeppy | What zenzelezz said. |
| 17:22.43 | Hirsute | They'd just beat each other with, and eat, the miniatures. |
| 17:22.52 | Trixer | Hirsute: agreed |
| 17:22.56 | Trixer | Zen: Im so confused... |
| 17:22.59 | Lopeppeppy | I have no real artistic ability, but I can look at pictures of things and say, "that looks good" and see that it requires a wash of light blue over a base of dark red, and go do it. |
| 17:23.09 | Hirsute | Once my son's a little older, absolutely. |
| 17:23.15 | Lopeppeppy | That's technique. |
| 17:23.38 | Trixer | Yeah but I dont want to copy however one else is painting their models |
| 17:23.42 | Trixer | I want to do my own color scheme... |
| 17:23.56 | Lopeppeppy | That's how you start, and learn. Then you get creative and artistic as you learn. |
| 17:23.59 | Trixer | ahh |
| 17:24.08 | Trixer | so its one of those crawl before you walk things |
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| 17:24.19 | Lopeppeppy | That's the purpose of practice, yup. |
| 17:24.25 | Trixer | See theres god for you.. always trying to find a way to put me on my knees *sigh* |
| 17:24.56 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr. |
| 17:26.00 | Trixer | WTT: Stuff for artistic talent? |
| 17:26.47 | Trixer | http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat50034&prodId=prod840934 |
| 17:26.54 | Trixer | like that man I would kill to be able to do that! |
| 17:27.47 | Lopeppeppy | I doubt all are actual minis, some look to be photoshopped drawings instead. |
| 17:28.10 | Trixer | no |
| 17:28.11 | Trixer | they are minis |
| 17:28.15 | Trixer | I promise |
| 17:28.28 | Trixer | The dudes who work for GW are all that good |
| 17:28.37 | Lopeppeppy | Some look dreadfully flat, some look 3D. *gentle shrug* |
| 17:29.06 | Trixer | Ive been in the GW hobbys for a while, they dont photoshop anything, all of the models shown are proffessinally painted |
| 17:31.09 | Trixer | but I gues if thats all you did 8 hours a day all day everyday was paint |
| 17:31.13 | Trixer | you would get pretty good at it pretty fast |
| 17:35.15 | Olorin | yikes just had longest fight ever 73 prot pally with prince valanar lol i won but damn was fun fight lol |
| 17:37.01 | foxlit | "Gold in stock!if no stock, no spamming!So Buy wow gold from ..." |
| 17:37.17 | |pez| | lol |
| 17:37.37 | Trixer | someone should write an addon that works for gold, stock, and buy in the same sentence and filters the message |
| 17:38.51 | Olorin | why complicate things, 6 of the same letters in their name would be enough lol |
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| 17:39.09 | foxlit | Wouldn't work. |
| 17:39.10 | pastamancer | it would also block people wanting to buy a stockades run with gold :p |
| 17:39.24 | foxlit | Giurftamelsn is almost pronounceable, too. |
| 17:39.25 | Lopeppeppy | Like blocking them is bad? |
| 17:40.04 | Trixer | yeah |
| 17:40.07 | Trixer | because it does no good |
| 17:40.15 | Trixer | 20 mins later your just spammed by more |
| 17:40.22 | pastamancer | false positives are false positives |
| 17:40.26 | Trixer | and Im not suprised my block isnt full by no |
| 17:40.29 | Trixer | now* |
| 17:40.54 | Trixer | Im sure that you could write an addon that could block those messages with pretty good accruacy |
| 17:41.16 | pastamancer | you try writing email spam filters and let me know how that goes |
| 17:42.12 | Trixer | email spam I would imagen would be a big diffrent.. there are many more things that need to be spammed out |
| 17:42.19 | Olorin | very few actual spam filters work on matching these days, mostly people like hotmail selling blacklisted e-mail databases |
| 17:42.27 | Trixer | but I think just writing one for WoW that would block gold spammers seriously wouldnt be to hard you think? |
| 17:42.43 | ZorbaTHut | come on, do you honestly think you have better resources to write a spam blocker than *blizzard* does? |
| 17:42.46 | zenzelezz | if it was easy, don't you think it would have been in the stock UI by now? |
| 17:42.59 | pastamancer | blocking spam is easy, not getting false positives is hard |
| 17:43.28 | foxlit | ZorbaTHut: better resources, no. Better motivation, sure. |
| 17:43.30 | Trixer | Well no, but at the same time I wouldnt say blizzard is putting to many resources towards doing it.. |
| 17:43.52 | Trixer | so no I dont think it would be in the stock UI by now... |
| 17:43.55 | foxlit | They are not not doing it because it's "hard". They're not doing it because it's not a priority to them. |
| 17:44.03 | Trixer | Thank you fox... |
| 17:44.16 | Olorin | they dont need to, they just ban accounts that are reported by users for spamming say 50 times per 10mins... or somthing like that |
| 17:44.17 | Trixer | Banned accounts means more copys sold?:P |
| 17:44.45 | Olorin | trouble is they arnt bought copies, all trial accounts arent they? |
| 17:45.03 | Lopeppeppy | Or hacked accounts. |
| 17:45.19 | Trixer | you cant talk on public channels with a trail account |
| 17:45.35 | Trixer | so no I doubt its a trial account honestly |
| 17:47.07 | Trixer | I also dont think bliz perm banns the accounts, they just slap some generic 10-30 day ban |
| 17:47.17 | Trixer | and the gold sellers go about using another account while that ones on "cooldown" |
| 17:47.53 | |pez| | ... that sounds weird |
| 17:47.53 | |pez| | not being able to talk on public channels... |
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| 17:48.48 | Lopeppeppy | Not for a trial account. Keeps the goldsellers from using them. |
| 17:52.19 | Olorin | is saronite a rare or just found in higher zones? |
| 17:52.30 | NightHawkTheSane | higher level zones. |
| 17:52.58 | zenzelezz | yeah, it's all over when you get out of the starter zones |
| 17:53.03 | zenzelezz | titanium's the rare one |
| 17:53.06 | Olorin | ah thanks :) |
| 17:53.38 | Olorin | wanting to make new shield for my pally but hadnt seen any of them mines yet |
| 17:55.06 | NightHawkTheSane | holy corruption, batman, IL Gov. arrested for bribery, including trying to "sell" obama's vacant senate seat. http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2008/12/source-feds-take-gov-blagojevich-into-custody.html |
| 17:55.59 | Olorin | lol senate seat on ebay |
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| 17:59.43 | Jelly-School | That final was terribad. |
| 18:01.21 | Lopeppeppy | Eew. Did you do okay? |
| 18:01.32 | Jelly-School | Umm. No. |
| 18:01.38 | Jelly-School | Yeah ... I'm going to go with no. |
| 18:01.43 | Lopeppeppy | *wince* I'm sorry, dear. |
| 18:01.52 | Jelly-School | *shrug* It's life |
| 18:01.55 | Shirik | :( |
| 18:02.29 | Jelly-School | No hablo espanol. It's that simple. :\ |
| 18:02.43 | Lopeppeppy | But... class all semester! |
| 18:03.02 | Jelly-School | Well, I know more than I did, that's for sure but as far as being tested on it, yeah ... |
| 18:03.17 | Shirik | Well I had 2 finals for the same class today. |
| 18:03.25 | Shirik | On the second one I asked the professor "Are the questions seriously this easy?" |
| 18:03.32 | Jelly-School | lol |
| 18:03.43 | Lopeppeppy | *poke* |
| 18:03.49 | Shirik | The second one was actually the final from the prerequisite class last semester |
| 18:03.53 | Shirik | he wanted to see how well we improved |
| 18:04.07 | Shirik | Last year I hated that class, this year I'm like "I can't believe this was ever hard" |
| 18:04.39 | Jelly-School | hehe |
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| 18:04.51 | Shirik | that being said, night |
| 18:05.02 | Jelly-School | Justnow going to bed? :P |
| 18:05.21 | Shirik|zZz | that's a complicated question |
| 18:05.33 | Jelly-School | Well, I have two hours. |
| 18:07.40 | Jelly-School | Either way, I think I passed the class so I met my goal. |
| 18:08.08 | Lopeppeppy | *nod* |
| 18:09.04 | Jelly-School | So how's your day going? Getting over the crappy drive in? |
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| 18:09.31 | Lunessa | station |
| 18:10.22 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Lunessa! |
| 18:10.30 | Lunessa | hi hi |
| 18:10.38 | Lopeppeppy | Crappy drive is over, crappy emergency site for college is new focus of ire. |
| 18:11.23 | Lunessa | Wrath of the Lopeppeppy: Emergency Web Site Edition |
| 18:11.53 | Lopeppeppy | RAWR! |
| 18:11.55 | Lopeppeppy | *giggle* |
| 18:12.24 | Lopeppeppy | I really like, we need it by the end of today, and then 2 hours without feedback.... |
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| 18:18.45 | Trixer | Lope you do web design? |
| 18:21.05 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. |
| 18:22.28 | Trixer | . Basecoat the Goblin's skin with an application of Dark Angels Green. Leave recessed areas of the flesh Chaos Black in order to achieve a nice shadow for the green flesh. <--- does the word "application" here mean just standard painting or is that techinque? |
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| 18:22.48 | Lopeppeppy | Standard painting. |
| 18:23.12 | Trixer | and when it says water colors down.. how much? |
| 18:23.38 | Lopeppeppy | That is something to figure by experimentation, sadly... start with X%, see what it looks like... |
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| 18:23.57 | Trixer | would a 1:1 be a good place to start? |
| 18:24.09 | Lopeppeppy | 50% dliute? Perhaps. |
| 18:24.56 | Trixer | yeah basicaly equal parts water to paint |
| 18:25.08 | pastamancer | depends on the effect you want |
| 18:25.19 | Lopeppeppy | All you can do is try it and see. |
| 18:25.19 | Trixer | I dont know what effect I want.. |
| 18:25.24 | Trixer | http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?community=&catId=cat50030&categoryId=400025&aId=1300016 |
| 18:25.29 | Trixer | im just reading over this guide.. |
| 18:25.46 | Lopeppeppy | That link doesn't get me to the guide, just to their main page. |
| 18:26.04 | Trixer | wierd it takes me to the guide when I clikc it |
| 18:26.14 | Lopeppeppy | You're probably already logged in or whatever. |
| 18:26.29 | Lopeppeppy | Water this color a bit is probably not 50/50. |
| 18:26.32 | Trixer | So as I understand it, dry brushing is like the opposent of washing.. dry brushing gets raised areas and washing gets creaves? |
| 18:26.59 | Lopeppeppy | Ish, yes. |
| 18:27.27 | Trixer | Highlighting is another part that I know is going to take some practise |
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| 18:27.41 | pastamancer | ah, yeah... it looks like they want about 80% or 90% paint |
| 18:29.19 | Trixer | thanks past |
| 18:30.49 | Trixer | Ive always liked the nightgoblins and they seem like a pretty decent place to start learning.. not alot of extreme detail to them like metal armor and stuff |
| 18:32.05 | Lunessa | Trixer: Actually 2:1 pait:water |
| 18:32.55 | Jelly-School | Happy 12:34 everyone! |
| 18:32.59 | Lunessa | Textures on minis are easy with washing and drybrushing. |
| 18:33.28 | Trixer | Thanks Lune |
| 18:33.46 | Trixer | Im learning.. right now none if its really easy |
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| 18:36.54 | Trixer | I really dont like painting metal minis either.. I would rather always stick with plastic ones lol |
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| 18:45.22 | kd3 | wth... an f/a18 crashed in san diego!? |
| 18:45.46 | Jelly-School | ... |
| 18:47.16 | Lopeppeppy | Yuppers. |
| 18:47.25 | Jelly-School | Interesting. |
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| 18:47.29 | Lopeppeppy | Last I read, no word on casualties. |
| 18:47.38 | Jelly-School | http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081208/ap_on_re_us/military_jet_crash |
| 18:47.45 | Jelly-School | Says 2 dead on the ground |
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| 18:54.44 | Lopeppeppy | Still, sucks. *sigh* |
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| 19:20.30 | NightHawkTheSane | nice.. http://notalwaysright.com/thisisspyware/1371 |
| 19:22.03 | Lopeppeppy | Wicked damn funny. *snark* |
| 19:22.46 | Lopeppeppy | I wish I could print those and wallpaper my office with them. |
| 19:22.50 | Lopeppeppy | I need a tree on my desk. |
| 19:22.52 | Lopeppeppy | Like now. |
| 19:23.01 | mikma | why do they seem like invented |
| 19:23.49 | Lopeppeppy | No, you can't invent such pathetically stupid people. Trust me, I worked retail for 6 years. |
| 19:24.15 | kd3 | oh, idiots in retail are great |
| 19:24.34 | kd3 | it breaks up the monotony of me part-timing in the starbucks of a supertarget |
| 19:25.39 | Lopeppeppy | " |
| 19:25.55 | Lopeppeppy | "Can I have a double-shot no fat latte?" |
| 19:25.59 | Lopeppeppy | "What size?" |
| 19:26.04 | Lopeppeppy | "Double shot." |
| 19:27.05 | mikma | but some stuff in there sound like "only in america" stories |
| 19:27.08 | Lopeppeppy | "Grande then" |
| 19:27.30 | Tekkub | stupid coffee people |
| 19:27.33 | Lopeppeppy | "No! Double shot, you idiot! How can you work here and not know that size, it's right on your.... oh, nevermind, it's not on THIS menu." |
| 19:27.38 | Lopeppeppy | "Skinny" was my favorite. |
| 19:28.00 | kd3 | I still can't figure out people who order skinny drinks with whip |
| 19:28.05 | mikma | i rather make some coffee at home |
| 19:28.18 | Corr-work | what's "skinny"? a size? |
| 19:28.27 | kd3 | no fat, sugar-free flavoring |
| 19:28.34 | kd3 | er, no-fat milk |
| 19:28.35 | Corr-work | ah |
| 19:28.42 | mikma | also, god damnit, my headphones are breaking up =( |
| 19:29.22 | Trixer | what someone say double shot choclet expresso? |
| 19:29.23 | Corr-work | i am not an executive with a 5-bedroom home, and i buy computers and games and stuff, so i can't afford to buy things where drinks are more than $1 and a meal is more than $5 |
| 19:29.41 | Corr-work | so i have never experienced these things at coffee shops |
| 19:29.42 | Trixer | you dont pay less the $5 for a meal? |
| 19:29.47 | Trixer | dude where do you live? |
| 19:29.54 | Tekkub | man that's hard to do even at wendy's |
| 19:30.10 | Lopeppeppy | The espresso is already double shot, they can add chocolate if they want. |
| 19:30.15 | Tekkub | I'm generally happy with "fast food" at like $20 for two people |
| 19:30.19 | mikma | omnomnom |
| 19:30.23 | Corr-work | i don't pay -more- than $5 for meals, most of the time. $6 i suppose, like subway. |
| 19:30.32 | Lopeppeppy | Ramen is your friend. |
| 19:30.53 | Corr-work | most food around here i can get away with closer to $4 if i don't buy stupidly overpriced things |
| 19:30.57 | Trixer | Corr: Dude, you need to call your grandmother and have her come feed you, cause I know your not eating good :P |
| 19:31.04 | NightHawkTheSane | cheap ramen is no-one's friend |
| 19:31.06 | Tekkub | Corr isn't fat people |
| 19:31.14 | Trixer | Defently not! |
| 19:31.28 | Tekkub | we have to at least get a cup of soup too |
| 19:31.29 | Trixer | What does a normal 4 dollar meal consist of for you cor? |
| 19:31.33 | Corr-work | Trixer: i live in a small city in Wisconsin. food isn't like California here. |
| 19:31.48 | Trixer | I live in a hole in the wall town in alabama |
| 19:31.54 | Tekkub | Chipotle used to be like $5 a pop |
| 19:32.01 | Tekkub | but now it's like $6.50 |
| 19:32.04 | Corr-work | a whole frozen pizza would be about $3.33, for example, and that's way more than i can eat at once |
| 19:32.06 | Tekkub | and of course, I get extra meat |
| 19:32.25 | Corr-work | sure we have our restaurants that charge $13 for a plate of microwaved pasta, but i don't eat there |
| 19:32.40 | Trixer | I buy my lunch from the swans man, I can get a whole weeks worth of food for about $30-40 and be set up.. good stuff too |
| 19:32.58 | Tekkub | Schwan's? |
| 19:33.02 | Tekkub | they were good |
| 19:33.09 | Trixer | schwans yeah lol |
| 19:33.11 | Corr-work | okay, a week of meals is somewhere around 20 meals, and if you get that for $40 that's $2 per meal |
| 19:33.24 | Trixer | Corr: no.. im talking about lunch at work.. thats it.. |
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| 19:33.32 | Corr-work | oh. |
| 19:33.35 | Trixer | I dont eat breakfast... |
| 19:33.48 | Tekkub | My food's been super cheap this week |
| 19:33.54 | Trixer | and dinner I will cook something from the grocey I have purchased.. which is some where around $150-200 a month depending |
| 19:33.54 | Tekkub | I've had no fucking appetite |
| 19:34.04 | Tekkub | yesterday I ate a peanut granola bar |
| 19:34.04 | Lopeppeppy | I spend about 45-50 about every 9 days. I eat english muffins, cereal, hamburgers, ham sandwiches, ramen, hamburger helper, salads and fun. |
| 19:34.14 | Lunessa | I spend about $150-200 on groceries for a month. I eat pretty well. |
| 19:34.23 | Trixer | Lunessa: Me too! |
| 19:34.34 | Lopeppeppy | I try to eat more healthy, that's more expensive. |
| 19:34.37 | Lunessa | I get paid monthly, so I have to be wise about spending. |
| 19:34.38 | Tekkub | we spend $600-800 on groceries and dining out a month, normally |
| 19:34.43 | Tekkub | but we do eat a lot |
| 19:34.52 | Corr-work | a can of Campbell's chunky chili is like $2.60, and it's surprisingly healthy according to the nutrition label |
| 19:34.52 | Tekkub | that's for two people :P |
| 19:34.55 | Trixer | I dont know, I just buy stuff I want.. I dont worry to much about the price.. I mean im not rich by any means but I make enough money to live decently.. and not have to worry about only spending 5 dollars on my food |
| 19:34.58 | Corr-work | very filling |
| 19:35.22 | Trixer | I dont have time to cook stuff like that at work. |
| 19:35.24 | Tekkub | we also buy a lot of soda tho |
| 19:35.48 | Trixer | and at home, I normaly eat like pastas and stuff ill cook in large batches and freeze the sauce then just make the noodles |
| 19:37.22 | Lunessa | Corr-work: Make your life better. Buy a $15 rice-cooker/steamer. Make 3 cups of rice every 2 days. You'll have a good staple that goes with everything. |
| 19:37.22 | Lunessa | rice is CHEAP. |
| 19:37.22 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 19:37.22 | Tekkub | <3 rice |
| 19:37.22 | NightHawkTheSane | rice and a fried egg is a great meal |
| 19:37.22 | Lopeppeppy | And if you make it with various broths, tastes awesome. |
| 19:37.22 | Lunessa | And so tasty! |
| 19:37.22 | Tekkub | rice and brown sugar |
| 19:37.22 | Tekkub | and butter |
| 19:37.23 | Corr-work | i don't like rice |
| 19:37.23 | Tekkub | *moan* |
| 19:37.23 | Lopeppeppy | A little cheese over rice, a little chili powder in it, or butter and garlic... |
| 19:37.23 | Corr-work | actually, i -dislike- rice |
| 19:37.23 | mikma | tekkub: you dont eat breakfast? |
| 19:37.23 | Tekkub | I don't eat anything right now |
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| 19:37.23 | Lunessa | Corr-work: Oh well. |
| 19:37.23 | Tekkub | but no, we usually eat one big meal a day |
| 19:37.23 | Tekkub | and maybe snack a bit |
| 19:37.23 | Trixer | Corr: I agree with the rice thing, I dont eat much rice.. some times ill cook it with an egg and kiction but im not really a rice fan |
| 19:37.53 | Corr-work | i don't mind if other people do rice, of course, but it really doesn't appeal to me. i dislike bread, too, except as a way to hold sandwiches together. |
| 19:37.53 | mikma | tekkub: usually i just cant eat anything at the morning. food makes me wanna barf at morning =/ |
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| 19:38.08 | Tekkub | eating makes me tired |
| 19:38.16 | Tekkub | so morning, not good idea |
| 19:38.23 | Lopeppeppy | Bring a bagel to work? |
| 19:38.26 | Corr-work | small amounts of caffeine make me drowsy, i think, which seems odd |
| 19:38.41 | Corr-work | maybe i'm just more aware of how tired i am |
| 19:38.56 | Tekkub | large amounts of caffine ("energy" drinks) make me tired |
| 19:39.05 | mikma | huh |
| 19:39.09 | Tekkub | give me one of those Amp things and I'll pass out |
| 19:39.24 | mikma | i usually start my day with 1 litre of coffee hee |
| 19:39.25 | Corr-work | hah |
| 19:39.30 | ZorbaTHut | reversed reactions to stimulants are a pretty common side-effect of whatever it is that causes ADD |
| 19:39.32 | End | I've heard of people that happens with |
| 19:39.57 | Trixer | I have ADD and your right! |
| 19:40.01 | End | too much caffeine just gives me a headache though :P |
| 19:40.07 | ZorbaTHut | in fact, most ADD treatments are mild amphetamines, which, in that case, often calms and lets people focus better :) |
| 19:40.07 | Tekkub | Why is Worf a perv? |
| 19:40.09 | Trixer | Like most things that would make people uppity makes me calmer |
| 19:40.19 | Tekkub | he keeps telling me that the "King's on her friend" |
| 19:40.36 | Trixer | Tek: I dont get it? |
| 19:40.47 | Tekkub | I've been in SW too much |
| 19:42.31 | Trixer | You guys want to know an akward conversation? |
| 19:43.09 | Lopeppeppy | King's Honor, Friend. *poke* |
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| 19:44.26 | Corr-work | i suppose that's why they use ritalin |
| 19:44.32 | Trixer | Trying to explain that the two large scratches across your cheek came from a woman that you were westling with and not trying to stuff in your trunk? |
| 19:44.34 | Corr-work | or used to |
| 19:45.22 | Corr-work | a minor OD of ritalin will make one shake involuntarily |
| 19:45.24 | ZorbaTHut | trixer, I can see how that would be awkward if *you* brought it up, but otherwise, not hugely |
| 19:45.33 | Tekkub | I have a lovely, depp, scratch down my right index finger |
| 19:45.37 | Tekkub | fucking cat |
| 19:45.49 | Trixer | Zorba: I walked into the office today and everyone just stared at me |
| 19:45.49 | ZorbaTHut | "You see these scratches? I *totally* was not trying to stuff a girl into a trunk." |
| 19:45.51 | ZorbaTHut | ". . ." |
| 19:45.52 | Tekkub | across both knuckles |
| 19:46.05 | Corr-work | wash it out with dish soap or hydrogen peroxide, slap a bandage on it with some antibacterial salve, and you'll be healed up in no time |
| 19:46.18 | Tekkub | neosporin! |
| 19:46.23 | Trixer | Zorba: I everyone was like what happend to you, and I was like oh me and this girl were fighting.. and I could feel all off them dialing the police number in their minds and telling the cops to look in ditches or something. |
| 19:46.30 | Corr-work | sure, neosporin's a good example |
| 19:46.38 | Tekkub | you can tell which part I was about to put on neo and bandaid it too |
| 19:47.02 | Tekkub | I couldn't do the entire scratch or I wolodn't've been able to type |
| 19:47.09 | Trixer | Or you could do what my mom always says |
| 19:47.09 | Corr-work | washing it first can be very useful, too |
| 19:47.12 | Trixer | and go rub some dirt on it! |
| 19:47.32 | Lopeppeppy | You can put neo on the scratch, just not bandage it. |
| 19:47.48 | Tekkub | and get it all over my keyboard? |
| 19:47.50 | Corr-work | Lopeppeppy is right about that, too, although take care not to rub it off on stuff >_> |
| 19:48.39 | Tekkub | the real problem is, the deepest parts of the scratch are at the knucles |
| 19:48.46 | Corr-work | i used to have more cat scratches before my kitty learned not to use his claws when jumping on my lap |
| 19:48.47 | Tekkub | I'm sure his claw got stuck there |
| 19:48.48 | Lunessa | For awkward conversation, watch me try to gracefully exit a conversation after getting rejected for a date. |
| 19:49.11 | Corr-work | and when i was keeping a bunch of kittens company, and they wanted to play with my hands... |
| 19:50.08 | Trixer | Lunessa: Thats easy, you simply just smile and walk away. |
| 19:50.44 | Lopeppeppy | Girls suck. |
| 19:50.49 | Lopeppeppy | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/funny-pictures-kitten-begs-you-not-to-sit-on-him.jpg |
| 19:51.22 | mikma | awwww |
| 19:51.32 | Lunessa | Trixer: Of course, but there's those 10-15 seconds of awkward silence as both parties realize... "shit ain't ever going to be the same or comfortable again." |
| 19:51.56 | Corr-work | i am brimming with advice, but none of it is from experience |
| 19:52.21 | Trixer | Lune: perhaps.. or you could just use my method and thats ask twice everyday until you wear them down and they give you date to shut you up |
| 19:52.34 | Trixer | then you blow their minds at the date and they relise there were completely wrong about you |
| 19:52.39 | Trixer | and thus happly ever after blah blah |
| 19:52.40 | Lunessa | Trixer: I'm older, more canny than that. |
| 19:52.43 | Corr-work | http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6506/img2909rq3.jpg |
| 19:52.55 | Trixer | lol |
| 19:53.06 | Trixer | Corr: t hats cute |
| 19:53.17 | Trixer | Lune: yeah I dont get dates much.. I got alot of restraining orders though! |
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| 19:54.28 | Lopeppeppy | I don't get dates much either, but it's because I'm a crazy cat lady. |
| 19:54.55 | Lunessa | Trixer: I'm trying to avoid any of those. I dislike the pain that comes from dealing the machinery of justice. |
| 19:55.43 | Lopeppeppy | If you get a lot of restraining orders, I'm not so interested in baking cookies with you. |
| 19:55.44 | kd3 | bah. cats in trees are the bane of my parents' existence. they can't put up any breakable ornaments |
| 19:56.21 | Lopeppeppy | My cat doesn't get in trees, still can't have breakables. |
| 20:01.00 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Your cat would eat breakable ornaments. Or at least hunt them to pieces. |
| 20:01.34 | Lopeppeppy | Yuppers. She hates stuff. |
| 20:01.36 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr, dead. |
| 20:01.46 | Lopeppeppy | Then she shows me her handiwork. |
| 20:01.49 | Lopeppeppy | Proud, rawr. |
| 20:01.57 | NightHawkTheSane | i hate stuff too.. |
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| 20:09.31 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: You hate everything. So that's not as leap or anything. |
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| 20:09.48 | NightHawkTheSane | i don't hate -everything- |
| 20:10.00 | NightHawkTheSane | just most things. |
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| 20:24.41 | Shirik|zZz | (15:00:57) (+Lopeppeppy) Yuppers. She hates stuff. |
| 20:24.41 | Shirik|zZz | (15:01:00) (+Lopeppeppy) Rawr, dead. |
| 20:24.41 | Shirik|zZz | (15:01:10) (+Lopeppeppy) Then she shows me her handiwork. |
| 20:24.41 | Shirik|zZz | (15:01:13) (+Lopeppeppy) Proud, rawr. |
| 20:24.46 | Shirik|zZz | o.O |
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| 20:45.04 | christy_arnold | whats up mah wow friends |
| 20:45.08 | christy_arnold | who wants to have a scrim |
| 20:46.20 | christy_arnold | who wants to level up? |
| 20:46.28 | christy_arnold | YA HERD? |
| 20:46.44 | Lopeppeppy | Most of us are stuck at work, not playing ATM. |
| 20:47.38 | Lunessa | ... scrim - n. 1. a cotton or linen fabric of open weave used for bunting, curtains, etc. - are you offering to decorate my house? |
| 20:49.43 | Olorin | decorating house.. id take someone up on that offer, my house looks like the gods have used it as a snow globe, stuff all over the place |
| 20:50.48 | Lopeppeppy | Scrum = scrimmage, no? |
| 20:51.35 | Tekkub | either way, someone's smoking crack |
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| 20:56.00 | Tekkub | that was scary |
| 20:56.59 | Lopeppeppy | ~comfort Tekkub |
| 20:56.59 | purl | There, there, Tekkub. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
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| 21:02.01 | Shirik|zZz | .... |
| 21:02.10 | Shirik|zZz | I just typed into a calculator log(2^24)/log(2) |
| 21:02.17 | Shirik|zZz | literally, with the power |
| 21:02.18 | Lopeppeppy | Go back to sleep dear, it was just a troll. |
| 21:02.28 | Shirik|zZz | oh! |
| 21:02.38 | Shirik|zZz | I missed fun times :( |
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| 21:02.51 | bleeter | Shirik|zZz: U R TEH PHUN THYMEZ!!! |
| 21:02.54 | Tekkub | poor shirik, playing with powers he doesn't understand |
| 21:02.57 | Lopeppeppy | No you didn't, I saved you some. :) |
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| 21:14.27 | Trixer | http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat50045&prodId=prod1050097 |
| 21:14.32 | Trixer | that mini is so awesome |
| 21:15.21 | Trixer | I could only imagen how horrible it would look after I got done painting it lol |
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| 21:19.03 | Shirik|zZz | Is that Warhammer Fantasy, Trixer? |
| 21:19.21 | Shirik|zZz | I don't recognize the model, and the base is square which tends to indicate fantasy |
| 21:20.03 | Fisker- | why so zzz when not zzz'ing Shirik|zZz ` |
| 21:20.04 | Fisker- | ? |
| 21:20.22 | Shirik|zZz | why so not zzz when not zzzing? |
| 21:22.35 | Shirik|zZz | killer bees? |
| 21:22.56 | Lopeppeppy | ZZZZZZZZZZ |
| 21:23.02 | Shirik|zZz | o |
| 21:23.05 | Shirik|zZz | sorry I killed you :( |
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| 21:23.55 | Shirik|zZz | :( |
| 21:23.55 | NightHawkTheSane | >< |
| 21:24.02 | NightHawkTheSane | note to self: do not try to pull out toaster oven rack with bare hands mere moments after it finishes cooking |
| 21:24.59 | kd3 | fail nhts is fail |
| 21:25.36 | Tekkub | wheeeeee |
| 21:25.40 | Tekkub | Trey's diabetic |
| 21:26.16 | kd3 | gack. I feel for ya. my little brother got diagnosed type 1 diabetic some time back |
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| 21:29.40 | TranceControl | Hey guys :) Just wanted to know if there is something like an addon which can contain people's (mostly guildies) link for their tradeskills, so that you dont have to ask them all the time? and maybe also be able to show it again if someone needed ?. |
| 21:30.03 | Shirik | Definitely possible, I don't know if it exists or not |
| 21:30.29 | TranceControl | what would something like that be called? if i were to search for it on google? . |
| 21:30.31 | Cairenn | welcome back! |
| 21:30.58 | Shirik | not a clue TranceControl >< |
| 21:30.59 | kd3 | oh wow, failtastic. no wonder I've been having troubles with osCommerce today. the usps api is broken |
| 21:31.03 | Shirik | Cairenn? |
| 21:31.16 | TranceControl | Shirik thx anyway :D |
| 21:31.16 | End | hm |
| 21:31.27 | Shirik | did services just die? |
| 21:31.29 | NightHawkTheSane | i've been meaning to add that to TradeBook, but i've been lazy about making the UI not suck |
| 21:31.29 | Shirik | nm |
| 21:31.35 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 21:31.49 | End | too bad you can get the name from a guid |
| 21:32.02 | End | otherwise you could just cache if they linked it in guild chat |
| 21:32.22 | Cairenn | Shirik: was referring to the fact that I went out for a few hours, the channel was full .... came back, and there were only 9 people in here :p |
| 21:32.36 | Cairenn | alestane told me there was two massive netsplits |
| 21:32.37 | End | it's been netsplit-tastic |
| 21:32.39 | NightHawkTheSane | end, do you mean "can't"? |
| 21:32.39 | TranceControl | NightHawkTheSane about the remembering the link from other people?. |
| 21:32.43 | Cairenn | alestane: yum! thank you |
| 21:32.46 | NightHawkTheSane | TranceControl: yeah. |
| 21:32.58 | TranceControl | NightHawkTheSane that would really help alot of people out alot :D |
| 21:33.10 | Shirik | oh |
| 21:33.11 | Shirik | well hi |
| 21:33.12 | End | there's no direct mapping from guid->name. if you have the unit on hand (like they're in party) or you see them in your combat log you can store that |
| 21:33.34 | End | it'd be really nifty if you could though, since the guid is in the trade: link |
| 21:33.37 | pastamancer | do the tradeskill links use the guid of the player? |
| 21:33.43 | End | sort of |
| 21:33.43 | pastamancer | oh, well then |
| 21:33.45 | End | they store them |
| 21:33.57 | End | but the "real" data is in another field of the link |
| 21:34.04 | TranceControl | especially for guilds, which has certain people who are the main tailors/BS's and other stuff :) |
| 21:34.17 | pastamancer | do those tradeskill links remain valid after a server restart? |
| 21:34.21 | End | Yes |
| 21:34.22 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 21:34.23 | End | but |
| 21:34.33 | End | not always after a patch |
| 21:34.41 | pastamancer | ah |
| 21:34.48 | TranceControl | well then they would just need to be updated manually :) |
| 21:34.48 | NightHawkTheSane | if you actually click and view a tradeskill link, its trivial to get the name then.. *shrug* |
| 21:35.04 | End | does clicking a link show the name? |
| 21:35.21 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont know, but there's a function that returns it.. IsLinkedTradeSkill() i think? or something like that |
| 21:35.35 | End | that just returns if you're looking at a link |
| 21:35.39 | ScytheBlade1 | The thing is that clicking the link is the required part, as showing the window is all C-side. You can't progrmatically get the name from just a tradeskill link without user interaction |
| 21:35.58 | NightHawkTheSane | End: it has two returns |
| 21:36.17 | End | does it? |
| 21:36.18 | NightHawkTheSane | the first is a 1/nil, if the tradeskill you're looking at is linked, the second is the name of the player whose tradeskill it is |
| 21:36.34 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: You should be able to mimic that, no? |
| 21:36.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: er? |
| 21:36.42 | End | ok, now I gotta find the real name of the function |
| 21:36.49 | NightHawkTheSane | IsTradeSkillLinked() |
| 21:36.50 | TranceControl | Well wouldnt it be possible to make it, so that each time you open a Tradeskill link, you get the option to put a name to it? Like tagging it?. |
| 21:36.50 | Shirik | getting the tradeskill link to show |
| 21:37.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Displaying it isn't a problem, opening the trade window with that link's data is |
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| 21:37.18 | Shirik | why is that such a problem? |
| 21:37.22 | Shirik | Note I haven't looked at the code |
| 21:37.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Because it's all done C-side and we can't do that period without the user clicking the link |
| 21:37.33 | End | it might not be |
| 21:37.34 | nevcairiel | because its C :P |
| 21:37.42 | End | ScytheBlade1: sure? |
| 21:37.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Very |
| 21:37.47 | Tekkub | you can open links |
| 21:37.47 | End | oh |
| 21:37.49 | Shirik | You can't make the same calls? It literally is entirely C? |
| 21:37.53 | ScytheBlade1 | You can parse them yourself |
| 21:37.57 | End | I thought you could use :SetHyperLink |
| 21:38.02 | End | and just "hide" the window |
| 21:38.06 | End | until you get the name |
| 21:38.11 | ScytheBlade1 | But no one has managed to open the tradeskill window with a link's data |
| 21:38.18 | ScytheBlade1 | The function simply isn't visible to us |
| 21:38.20 | Tekkub | yea they have |
| 21:38.23 | ScytheBlade1 | They have? |
| 21:38.25 | ScytheBlade1 | wtf when? |
| 21:38.26 | End | well |
| 21:38.26 | Tekkub | they have |
| 21:38.29 | Tekkub | SetItemRef |
| 21:38.29 | Shirik | yey |
| 21:38.31 | End | you can use SetItemRef |
| 21:38.32 | End | or |
| 21:38.46 | End | even the code in SetItemRef |
| 21:38.53 | End | which involves :SetHyperlink |
| 21:38.58 | Tekkub | the code isn't in SetItemRef |
| 21:39.04 | Tekkub | it's weird |
| 21:39.07 | End | sure it is |
| 21:39.32 | End | It all comes down to when the link it set to ItemRefTooltip:SetHyperlink() |
| 21:39.37 | End | or whatever the tooltip is called |
| 21:40.25 | End | There might be something weird about that tooltip that let's it work....I didn't try with GameTooltip, but I did get it to show without actually calling SetItemRef itself |
| 21:40.37 | End | I just copied the contents of the else at the end |
| 21:40.59 | Tekkub | hum |
| 21:41.06 | Tekkub | either way, yes it can be done now |
| 21:41.12 | Tekkub | back in beta it didn't work |
| 21:41.30 | End | I think I did this right after 3.0 came out |
| 21:42.01 | End | in beta I only tried to extract the item list, but Maldivia found the tables you need for that |
| 21:42.06 | Tekkub | when the links were first added, we couldn't open them |
| 21:42.23 | Tekkub | hence why maldy did that |
| 21:42.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, that fits better. I hadn't looked at it since day one |
| 21:42.36 | Tekkub | at some point, they changed it so we could open them |
| 21:42.37 | End | it might require a hardware event |
| 21:42.59 | Tekkub | it might, that I've not tested |
| 21:43.36 | End | also, like I said, there might be something weird about what it does with that tooltip |
| 21:45.10 | End | nuts |
| 21:45.15 | End | now I can't make it work |
| 21:45.15 | End | oh |
| 21:45.21 | End | right, I need to strip stuff of |
| 21:47.21 | End | ok, either I'm full of shit and was imagining things, or I'm doing something wrong |
| 21:47.46 | TranceControl | sorry :) was just away :) ... So can it be done or it is totally impossible to make an addon that gathers the link to a database and stores it for future show?. :D |
| 21:48.07 | End | it's definitely possible if both sides have an addon |
| 21:48.16 | NightHawkTheSane | its trivial to do, as long as you click on links you want to save. |
| 21:48.38 | End | yes, and you can do it less elegantly with only the reciever caching if they reciever clicks |
| 21:48.56 | NightHawkTheSane | whether you can just passively save anything that vaguely crosses your chat window is another matter, but frankly asking users to click links they want isn't much of a hassle, if you ask me |
| 21:49.32 | NightHawkTheSane | End: i think it's more elegant to avoid unnecessary cross addon communication. |
| 21:49.58 | Tekkub | I'd just save a log of every chat link seen |
| 21:50.06 | Tekkub | but that's me |
| 21:50.15 | Tekkub | s/chat/trade |
| 21:50.29 | End | wtf |
| 21:50.33 | End | I figured out my problem |
| 21:50.39 | NightHawkTheSane | you could do that, actually, but unless you can extract a name, you'd have no way of linking it to anyone |
| 21:50.40 | End | my pattern is fucked up |
| 21:50.51 | End | halp, I need a pattern to extract a trade link |
| 21:50.58 | Tekkub | yea Night, I'd save the name |
| 21:51.08 | Tekkub | basically just the whole chat line with the link |
| 21:51.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub: except there's no guarantee that the person sending the chat message is the owner of the tradeskill linked |
| 21:51.36 | Tekkub | so? |
| 21:52.07 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* depends on what your trying to do, i guess |
| 21:52.28 | End | so, why isn't "trade:[^|]+" matching the final \ in my tradeskill link |
| 21:52.34 | Tekkub | nothing, I'm not even in a guild right now, so I don't care |
| 21:52.51 | Tekkub | because you suck! |
| 21:52.54 | End | yes |
| 21:52.59 | End | but that doesn't fix the problem |
| 21:53.00 | TranceControl | Tekkub thats the whole idea about it :) To save it and then be able to see what that person can make :) To be able to show what that certain person can make if asked about it and the peerson is offline :) |
| 21:53.01 | End | 8-) |
| 21:53.27 | End | wait a second, I figured it out I think |
| 21:53.33 | Tekkub | TranceControl, which is why you just keep a log of every chat line with a trade link |
| 21:53.42 | Tekkub | I understand the point of the addon |
| 21:53.55 | Tekkub | I'm saying, I have no use for it or I would have already written it |
| 21:54.11 | Trixer | wow crazy |
| 21:54.17 | Trixer | wizkids is shutting down production |
| 21:54.43 | End | ok, now I need to make sure I can open the tradeskill window without a hardware event |
| 21:55.29 | TranceControl | Tekkub then maybe you could help others figure out how to make it? To make life easier for others? :) |
| 21:55.31 | alestane | Trixer: I think that was announced a month or so ago. |
| 21:56.08 | End | ok |
| 21:56.13 | End | it can be done without a hardware event |
| 21:56.21 | Trixer | Ale: yeah, I dont really keep track of it to much, it just blows my mind.. I always saw heroclix as a very successful game. |
| 21:56.37 | NightHawkTheSane | End: hmm, can you pastey the code for that? |
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| 21:56.44 | End | sure one sec |
| 21:56.51 | Tekkub | TranceControl, I already told you what I'd do |
| 21:57.01 | Tekkub | anything more would be me writing the thing :P |
| 21:57.13 | NightHawkTheSane | hey Tekkub, want to write a gui? ;) |
| 21:57.40 | Tekkub | ScrollingChatFrame in my auction panel thing :P |
| 21:57.49 | TranceControl | Tekkub hehe well i know that ;) But any help to people who actually is working on it, wouldnt that be a satisfaction also? :D |
| 21:57.51 | End | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/104057 |
| 21:57.57 | End | synergy is failing at copy and paste |
| 21:58.02 | End | so I had to copy the url by hand |
| 21:58.03 | Tekkub | no, it wouldn't |
| 21:58.06 | End | keep in mind though |
| 21:58.11 | End | MY_TRADE_LINK needs to be set |
| 21:58.18 | End | to a tradeskill link |
| 21:58.34 | Tekkub | I hated when synergy's copy/paste would randomly not work |
| 21:58.53 | Trixer | Its like games workshop is the only good wargaming company now |
| 21:58.53 | End | I did /script MY_TRADE_LINK = "(clicked the link button in my window)" to set it |
| 21:59.25 | End | since you have to get the link from somewhere and it's easier to make sure it opens if it is already open 8-) |
| 21:59.29 | End | er |
| 21:59.32 | End | not already open |
| 21:59.35 | End | >_> |
| 22:00.10 | End | (also, I'm sure you could improve my string matching bit) |
| 22:00.54 | Tekkub | End, does it work if you drop the other shit and just call sethyperlink? |
| 22:00.59 | End | dunno |
| 22:01.08 | End | hold on, I'm gonna try with a different tooltip too |
| 22:01.18 | Tekkub | I bet you the other bits are useless as it's not a tooltip link |
| 22:01.19 | End | the other shit doesn't bother me as much as using that tooltip does |
| 22:01.31 | End | yeah, I think you're right |
| 22:01.46 | foxlit | Hm, a shaman with a buckler. |
| 22:01.53 | End | yaaaay |
| 22:02.03 | End | you can use any tooltip without that shit before it |
| 22:02.10 | End | well it works with GameTooltip |
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| 22:02.23 | Tekkub | good now get rid of your naste string.sub string.find shit |
| 22:02.26 | Tekkub | l2regexp |
| 22:02.27 | End | :( |
| 22:02.30 | End | I fail! |
| 22:02.45 | Tekkub | does the link even need to be stripped down? |
| 22:02.48 | End | yes |
| 22:03.14 | End | basically you want the inside bits between |H and the next |, just like any other hyperlink |
| 22:03.40 | Tekkub | every other hyperlink I've worked with you could throw the entire link at it |
| 22:03.53 | End | it didn't work when I tried it in this case |
| 22:03.55 | Tekkub | you didn';t have to extract out the first chunk |
| 22:04.21 | End | huh |
| 22:04.23 | End | that's weird |
| 22:04.40 | End | maybe I should be matching until |h |
| 22:05.22 | alestane | End: Posted a reply, a little cleaner. The sub(find()) thing is kind of ugly. |
| 22:05.28 | End | yay |
| 22:05.37 | NightHawkTheSane | I use link:match("|H([^|]+)") to pass to SetItemRef, and that works.. |
| 22:07.13 | End | I just posted an even shorter reply :P |
| 22:07.45 | End | ideally you'd want to use your own hidden tooltip, since ItemRefTooltip gets used for itemlinks |
| 22:08.15 | End | and the next step is to temporarily keep the tradeskill window from showing when you grab the player name |
| 22:09.18 | End | NightHawkTheSane: that doesn't work for me, for some reason |
| 22:09.27 | NightHawkTheSane | hm. |
| 22:09.49 | End | wait a sec |
| 22:09.54 | End | I'm using it wrong :P |
| 22:10.48 | End | wait, no I'm not |
| 22:11.19 | End | see, if I include that extra last character |
| 22:11.20 | End | it works |
| 22:11.36 | End | so link:match("|H([^|]+.)") works for me |
| 22:12.56 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm. |
| 22:13.06 | NightHawkTheSane | thats confusing |
| 22:13.13 | End | it is |
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| 22:14.53 | End | I have a theory |
| 22:16.37 | End | I'm bad :P |
| 22:17.27 | End | so, my problem was how I was obtaining the link |
| 22:17.39 | Tekkub | you fail |
| 22:17.42 | End | yes |
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| 22:23.09 | ReAn | anyone know the name of the quest where you go save undercity? |
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| 22:24.52 | zenzelezz | I just can't help myself casting Beast Lore on druids :-| |
| 22:25.51 | End | people need to stop using trade for looking for group >_> |
| 22:25.54 | alestane | What does it return? |
| 22:26.43 | zenzelezz | alestane: "Cannot be tamed", armor, HP, some damage range which I don't know if is accurate |
| 22:27.09 | alestane | I'm told that "Scare Beast" also works. |
| 22:27.47 | mikma | yes it works |
| 22:27.50 | Kaso | scare beast does but i think they can shift to get out of it |
| 22:27.56 | mikma | also banish works for theeform |
| 22:27.59 | End | yay |
| 22:28.11 | End | other than the tradeskill frame not always being loaded >_> |
| 22:28.13 | End | it works |
| 22:28.15 | mikma | scare beast is not cancellable by shapeshift |
| 22:28.39 | Kaso | oh yes? i was mistaken clearly |
| 22:29.01 | mikma | if its casted on you, you'll run away no matter if you shapeshift to normal form |
| 22:29.38 | mikma | the banish on treeform is also a nice touch |
| 22:29.45 | NightHawkTheSane | you can't shift out of fear effects, and it's a fear effect, so.. |
| 22:29.59 | End | you can shift while feared, of course |
| 22:30.08 | mikma | you can shift out but the fear wont be removed |
| 22:30.17 | End | that's only because at one time you couldn't use trinkets in form :P |
| 22:30.22 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, thats what i meant |
| 22:30.26 | End | which was dumb |
| 22:30.30 | mikma | its just stupid, you'll die easily out of fur |
| 22:31.01 | End | well, yeah, there's not really any reason to shift out now |
| 22:32.22 | Adys | could someone explain me what the hell questhelper actually does to crash the game? |
| 22:32.53 | NightHawkTheSane | eats babies. |
| 22:33.02 | Adys | I do that it never crashed wow |
| 22:33.02 | mikma | zorbathut: please tell adys he sucks |
| 22:33.03 | End | fucking hell |
| 22:33.31 | End | thank god hack had a saved version |
| 22:33.42 | Adys | mikma: I have no idea, I just used questhelper while lvl-racing and never used it since then |
| 22:33.44 | Adys | never had problems |
| 22:33.54 | End | accidently selected every thing right before I typed something |
| 22:35.40 | TranceControl | End hows the headcraking going with the tradeskill link addon? :p |
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| 22:36.11 | End | I had Blizzard's multiline edit box |
| 22:36.13 | End | hate* |
| 22:36.24 | Adys | Which tradeskill link addon? |
| 22:36.28 | End | I should probably make an addon instead of messing around in Hack now |
| 22:36.37 | Adys | thought it was getting changed in next patch |
| 22:36.45 | End | which now? |
| 22:36.52 | Adys | tradeskill links |
| 22:37.08 | TranceControl | Adys one that can remember other people's Tradeskill links and be able to show it again if needed :) |
| 22:37.14 | End | the encoded bitlist gets outdated every patch |
| 22:37.15 | End | I' |
| 22:37.21 | End | I'm not aware of any other change though |
| 22:37.44 | Adys | afaik they're changing the links in next patch |
| 22:37.50 | Adys | either way didnt Maldivia make a lib? |
| 22:38.04 | End | the lib isn't really needed here |
| 22:38.18 | End | it's basically just a tradeskill cache, it doesn't care about the contents |
| 22:38.27 | Adys | then why do you care about the bitlist getting changed? :P |
| 22:38.49 | End | I don't, other than maybe throwing away old links |
| 22:38.56 | Adys | oh |
| 22:39.05 | Adys | save the build? |
| 22:39.09 | End | yeah |
| 22:39.14 | End | but I wasn't worried about that :P |
| 22:42.25 | NightHawkTheSane | End: have you worked out how to keep the tradeskill window from showing while doing that, or do i have to actually do some real work ;) |
| 22:42.34 | End | yes, but one issue |
| 22:43.06 | End | I think the game triggers the "open window" sound outside of lua |
| 22:43.30 | End | actuslly, no, I dunno |
| 22:43.34 | End | I stopped getting the sound |
| 22:43.37 | Adys | er not afaik |
| 22:45.10 | End | ok |
| 22:45.15 | End | I must have imagined the sound |
| 22:45.58 | NightHawkTheSane | what the fuck? http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2008/12/09/kids_these_days |
| 22:46.17 | End | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/104068 |
| 22:46.59 | End | it basically just prints out the owner of the first link of each channel message |
| 22:47.03 | End | or nil if there's nothing |
| 22:47.07 | End | it's very spammy 8-) |
| 22:47.36 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
| 22:47.40 | Adys | NightHawkTheSane: I'm waiting for every dumbhead on the planet to insert a sharp piece of glass through their head so we can finally have a better world |
| 22:47.40 | NightHawkTheSane | nice |
| 22:47.45 | Adys | it's evolution, let it be |
| 22:47.54 | End | also, I'm hoping there's reason for the event not to immediately fire :P |
| 22:48.00 | End | no reason* |
| 22:48.44 | End | if suddenly it can't tell us the player name "right away", than you'd have to wait for TRADE_SKILL_SHOW or some similar event |
| 22:50.20 | Adys | End: gonna sound hacky but why dont you set up a unit tooltip with the guid from the link and read the name there? if that's the problem |
| 22:50.37 | End | can you? |
| 22:50.41 | Adys | sure |
| 22:51.41 | Adys | in most cases the game already cached the player so you would have it right away too |
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| 22:52.46 | End | you'll have to explain what you mean by unit tooltip though :P |
| 22:53.06 | Adys | setup a new tooltip with er |
| 22:53.06 | Adys | sec |
| 22:53.35 | End | I wasn't aware of any simple method to go from guid->name |
| 22:53.41 | Adys | local link = "|cffffffff|Hunit:" .. guid .. ":" .. name .. "|h[" .. name .. "]|h|r" |
| 22:53.52 | End | ah, that's interesting |
| 22:53.54 | Adys | name part is optional |
| 22:54.04 | Adys | actually thats wrong sec |
| 22:54.09 | Adys | local guid = "0xF13000" .. hexid .. "000000" |
| 22:54.24 | End | when does the game actually use this? |
| 22:54.28 | Adys | combat log |
| 22:54.31 | End | ah |
| 22:54.57 | Adys | also it might be 0xF00 for players I dont remember and cant start wow atm |
| 22:55.15 | End | I thought it was just plain 0000...id |
| 22:55.17 | End | but whatever |
| 22:56.20 | Adys | brb |
| 22:56.35 | End | yeah, my guid starts with zeros at least :P |
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| 22:59.36 | Adys | interesting |
| 22:59.45 | Adys | http://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git//wine.git?a=commitdiff;h=acbdd807b6164e155357a9c8a49692dc574d7e20 / http://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git//wine.git?a=commitdiff;h=50a87e23e70744c8b881fa2943aece617ab5a158 |
| 23:00.01 | Adys | might be a fix for the shader problems |
| 23:04.07 | ReAn | anyone know the name of the quest which sends you off to defend undercity? |
| 23:06.10 | mikma | battle of undercity? |
| 23:06.20 | mikma | of, for, of the, for the |
| 23:06.44 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:The_Battle_For_The_Undercity_(Alliance) |
| 23:08.22 | mikma | is there a horde version of it? |
| 23:08.29 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 23:08.30 | kd3 | clicky |
| 23:08.36 | kd3 | and then look at the "for the horde version..." |
| 23:08.43 | pastamancer | End: guid:sub(5,5) == "0" tells you if it's a player |
| 23:09.16 | End | all the ids I see have all the digits up to the end as zero |
| 23:09.27 | End | is there any place where that isn't the case? |
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| 23:10.03 | End | I guess I could just look at slouken's post :P |
| 23:10.11 | End | I vaguely remember he did describe everything |
| 23:12.45 | pastamancer | that's the only byte that matters according to slouken's post |
| 23:15.08 | mikma | does horde have any cool animations before attack to uc? |
| 23:16.57 | Adys | winehq's new bugzilla design is hot |
| 23:16.57 | Adys | http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15925 |
| 23:19.40 | foxlit | Hm, there are no aerial guards in wotlk |
| 23:20.06 | *** join/#wowuidev Wobin (n=Wobin@203-206-178-228.perm.iinet.net.au) |
| 23:20.19 | Tekkub | over faction towns? |
| 23:20.44 | Tekkub | they realize those do no good except to rape afk-fliers eh? |
| 23:21.04 | pastamancer | nice |
| 23:21.44 | foxlit | Tekkub: or maybe it's immersion and they haven't learned flying skill yet. |
| 23:21.57 | mikma | there also arent any chests in wotlk =( |
| 23:21.58 | foxlit | Adys: "*** This bug has been confirmed by popular vote. ***" << awesome. |
| 23:22.12 | Adys | Your mom has been confirmed by popular vote |
| 23:22.23 | Tekkub | yea there were never chests in BC either |
| 23:22.35 | foxlit | Oh yes, my mom is very popular. Unlike your mom, I might add. |
| 23:22.37 | mikma | yes thewe are, small ones |
| 23:22.41 | Tekkub | I'm fine with it, they always sucked anyway |
| 23:22.50 | mikma | fel iron chest etc |
| 23:22.52 | Tekkub | the new rare elites are better anyway |
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| 23:23.01 | foxlit | The problem with the new rare elites |
| 23:23.07 | foxlit | Is that I haven't met any of them. |
| 23:23.16 | mikma | i have met two |
| 23:23.17 | Adys | you need to be alone in a zone |
| 23:23.17 | Tekkub | that's not a problem :P |
| 23:23.19 | foxlit | Whereas old-world chests are so abundant everyone knows what they are. |
| 23:23.20 | Lopeppeppy | They're rare! |
| 23:23.24 | Tekkub | I got one the other night |
| 23:23.36 | Adys | I think I killed 10 of the rare elites or something |
| 23:23.37 | Tekkub | abundant... right |
| 23:23.37 | mikma | a helicopter in borean and a protodrake in storm peaks |
| 23:23.38 | Adys | all while levelling |
| 23:23.42 | Tekkub | and full of lv1`5 bread |
| 23:23.50 | Tekkub | and a gold bar |
| 23:23.53 | Adys | abundant lvl 5 bread, Tekkub |
| 23:24.12 | Tekkub | maybe a few pieces of leather |
| 23:24.15 | mikma | but there really is "chests" in bc areas |
| 23:24.31 | mikma | adamantite bount chest, fel iron chest, etc |
| 23:24.39 | Adys | most are in instance |
| 23:24.43 | mikma | bound* more likely |
| 23:24.57 | mikma | no, there is quite alot outdoors too |
| 23:25.02 | Tekkub | the only ones I ever saw were in instances |
| 23:25.06 | Adys | quite a lot... |
| 23:25.12 | mikma | just get gathermate + data and you will see |
| 23:25.48 | Tekkub | http://www.wowhead.com/?object=181798 |
| 23:25.51 | Tekkub | yup |
| 23:25.53 | Tekkub | full of shit |
| 23:26.22 | Adys | rofl |
| 23:26.25 | Adys | gold ore? |
| 23:26.26 | Adys | wtf? |
| 23:26.34 | Adys | and sungrass.. |
| 23:26.35 | mikma | ya |
| 23:26.40 | Tekkub | exactly! |
| 23:26.43 | foxlit | I wouldn't trust wowhead drop data for chests. |
| 23:26.52 | Tekkub | why? |
| 23:27.04 | foxlit | There's no reliable mechanic to detect whether the chest is new, and theres no mechanic at all to detect whether a chest is untouched by someone else. |
| 23:27.23 | Adys | i doubt someone opened the chest and put his gold ore inside |
| 23:27.35 | Tekkub | but that just means it *might* be lacking info |
| 23:27.37 | Adys | its bs you can even find that kind of stuff in bc chests |
| 23:27.44 | Tekkub | not that the info it has is wrong |
| 23:27.45 | foxlit | Yes, but someone might've taken something else out before the (presumably minor) faction of wowhead data reporters gets to the chest. |
| 23:27.56 | Lopeppeppy | People do that all the time. |
| 23:27.57 | foxlit | So drop percentages would be skewed towards crap. |
| 23:28.14 | Adys | as true as it is |
| 23:28.21 | Adys | why is there lvl 30 items |
| 23:28.23 | Adys | in a bc chest. |
| 23:28.31 | Adys | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=4304 come on |
| 23:28.31 | Tekkub | because chests suck |
| 23:28.52 | mikma | http://www.wowhead.com/?object=181802 |
| 23:29.03 | Tekkub | the instance chests have better shit, tho not spectacular |
| 23:29.04 | Tekkub | http://www.wowhead.com/?object=184931 |
| 23:29.04 | Kaelten | http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081208/od_nm/us_kiss |
| 23:29.17 | Kaelten | Tekkub: guess what? |
| 23:29.29 | Tekkub | YOU GIEV ONEBANC |
| 23:29.33 | mikma | the adamantite bound chests seem to have good stuff in them |
| 23:29.45 | Kaelten | Tekkub: this week hopefully |
| 23:30.01 | Tekkub | bout damn time |
| 23:30.15 | Tekkub | working on new features when the damn base addon wasn't even done :P |
| 23:30.24 | Kaelten | lol |
| 23:30.30 | Kaelten | well I got the base plugin architecture in place |
| 23:30.36 | Kaelten | so I have an idea of how to build around that now |
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| 23:31.33 | mikma | combuctor <3 |
| 23:31.54 | mikma | oh right, need to whine at tuller about omnicc and dk |
| 23:31.57 | Tekkub | Combuctor never really wow'd me |
| 23:32.12 | Tekkub | I think it was the way it scaled the buttons that bothered me |
| 23:32.18 | Tekkub | and that I couldn't do "bag break" |
| 23:32.28 | Kaelten | I'm happy with the code base on the new onebag so far |
| 23:32.36 | Kaelten | only a few hundred lines unique to onebag itself |
| 23:33.21 | mikma | gief example ss of 3.0.x or it didnt happen |
| 23:35.17 | Dewin | that sucked, killed Thrall and not a single one of us got the achievement >.> |
| 23:35.24 | Dewin | at least I already had it from before. |
| 23:37.00 | Wobin | hm, hunter nerfs |
| 23:38.34 | Dewin | link? |
| 23:39.11 | Wobin | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13275172587&sid=1 |
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| 23:41.08 | Kaelten | mikma ? |
| 23:42.09 | mikma | me! |
| 23:42.12 | Kaelten | eek |
| 23:42.16 | Kaelten | gotta run |
| 23:42.18 | Kaelten | bbiab |
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| 23:48.47 | Kraps | Blizz needs to rotate GC with someone else, before he loses it and goes the way of Tseric |
| 23:48.57 | cladhaire | I GOT KICKED FROM A GROUP FOR NOT USING CLIQUE LOL |
| 23:49.06 | End | what? |
| 23:49.08 | ScytheBlade1 | cladhaire: your post killed the thread |
| 23:49.10 | ScytheBlade1 | =[ |
| 23:49.15 | cladhaire | yeh i saw |
| 23:49.20 | cladhaire | i have a problem with doing that :P |
| 23:50.06 | |pez| | Woo, SW and IF raaaid! |
| 23:50.12 | NightHawkTheSane | cladhaire: wait, waht? |
| 23:50.13 | Lopeppeppy | ... that's funy, cladhaire. |
| 23:50.27 | cladhaire | someone posted that this morning |
| 23:50.29 | cladhaire | seriously |
| 23:51.08 | Lopeppeppy | I know people get booted for not using like.... boss mods or whatnot, but Clique? I mean, I LOVE it, but.... |
| 23:51.30 | mikma | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13275671504&sid=1 |
| 23:51.34 | mikma | ah hihihih |
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| 23:52.41 | Kraps | You're playing a game with dragons, wizards, undead, and gnomes, and worried about the physics of crystalized fire? |
| 23:52.46 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:53.14 | Amarande | Kraps: Tseric was the one who wanted us to spec prot, right? :) |
| 23:53.16 | Lunessa | Santa baby, a 54 convertible too, Light blue. I'll wait up for you dear, Santa baby, so hurry down the chimney tonight. |
| 23:53.26 | ZorbaTHut | adys, as far as I know, questhelper doesn't crash the game :) |
| 23:53.48 | Kraps | Amarande: idk, i came after his time |
| 23:53.57 | Amarande | have there actually been addons that actually crashed WoW? |
| 23:53.59 | Kraps | i do agree though :D |
| 23:54.00 | ZorbaTHut | used to, admittedly, in some situations, but that was one of the first things I fixed after taking it over. and it created some fascinating logon problems lately, which I believe are also fixed. |
| 23:54.04 | Wobin | Amarande: yes |
| 23:54.08 | ZorbaTHut | amarande, there's more than a few ways to do it |
| 23:54.12 | Amarande | I know there's been ones that made the game unplayable by tainting something important, but I haven't heard of ones that crashed the game itself |
| 23:54.13 | ZorbaTHut | questhelper has done several of them ;) |
| 23:54.17 | Wobin | If you get caught in an infinite loop |
| 23:54.19 | ZorbaTHut | infinite loops, for example |
| 23:54.23 | ZorbaTHut | infinite memory allocation |
| 23:54.27 | ZorbaTHut | tickling Blizzard bugs |
| 23:54.38 | ZorbaTHut | (I've done all three of these at various times :P) |
| 23:54.45 | Lunessa | Actually, lots that have crashed the game. They tend to die out in the wild though. |
| 23:54.56 | Wobin | Survival of the fittest |
| 23:55.05 | mikma | i know few occasions where addon has crashed the game |
| 23:55.06 | ZorbaTHut | on the other hand, they're also my highest priority, and *usually* don't touch too many people, since I do quite a bit of testing. |
| 23:55.06 | Wobin | Or perhaps lack of Intelligent Design =) |
| 23:55.22 | Fisker- | I don't think i can adapt to these crazy rules |
| 23:55.24 | ZorbaTHut | Still, without solving the halting problem, they're kind of inevitable. |
| 23:55.28 | mikma | 1) agUF, bad highlight image, crashed on os x |
| 23:55.40 | Fisker- | If a pedestrian has a red light and i have a green light, then i can't run him over for jaywalking |
| 23:55.41 | Fisker- | :( |
| 23:55.56 | mikma | 2) rock, did infinite loop if scrooge was enabled |
| 23:56.06 | Wobin | You can scare the living hell out of him by almost running him over though |
| 23:56.15 | Amarande | Fisker: of course you can't, that would defeat the point of jaywalking statues |
| 23:56.17 | Amarande | *statues |
| 23:56.20 | Amarande | er |
| 23:56.22 | Amarande | *statutes! |
| 23:56.24 | Fisker- | you failed! |
| 23:56.27 | Kraps | mikma: that thread is 8 pages long O_o |
| 23:56.33 | Lunessa | Wobin: Well played sir, well played indeed. |
| 23:56.42 | Wobin | I stopped reading after the first few posts =P |
| 23:56.48 | Wobin | as soon as I hit E = mc2 |
| 23:56.51 | Wobin | ^ |
| 23:56.55 | Amarande | the whole purpose of minor laws like jaywalking are to catch some people in it anyway so the municipality can make a little extra money |
| 23:56.59 | Fisker- | that's totally wrong Wobin ! |
| 23:57.00 | Wobin | Lunessa: ^^ |
| 23:57.01 | mikma | kraps: aye, sick |
| 23:57.02 | Fisker- | It's mc^2 not mc*2 |
| 23:57.05 | Fisker- | OH SNAP |
| 23:57.09 | Amarande | if you run them over, then they will need disability and medical care, which costs the municipality money :) |
| 23:57.19 | Wobin | Fisker-: thus my correction the line after =P |
| 23:57.26 | Fisker- | :( |
| 23:57.37 | mikma | failsker- |
| 23:57.41 | Kraps | crystalized shadow = bratz dolls or miley cyrus cds |
| 23:57.47 | Kraps | nice |
| 23:58.09 | Wobin | what does crystalised shadow drop from? |
| 23:58.11 | Lunessa | Most parts of the US have a "Pedestrians have the right of way" clause to prevent lots of people from getting run over who so richly deserve it. |
| 23:58.14 | Wobin | I've yet to encounter any |
| 23:59.13 | mikma | miley cyrua ahould be shot in the moon with her 7 things |
| 23:59.16 | Lunessa | Wobin: Mostly I get it mining. |
| 23:59.39 | Lunessa | I usually have lots of it from mining Saronite in particular. |
| 23:59.44 | Kraps | i think its time to farm these things to finance my epic flying |
| 23:59.49 | Amarande | hmm |
| 23:59.58 | Amarande | are there any rogue voidwalkers and such in northrend like there were in outland? |
