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| 00:02.33 | Amarande | ahh, good old fortune cookies |
| 00:02.47 | Amarande | we actually get customers regularly at work who will bet the lucky numbers off them, too |
| 00:03.16 | Amarande | usually attempting to do so in games where one or more of the numbers are too high to use LOL |
| 00:11.41 | AbsoRayne | Blah |
| 00:11.59 | Lopeppeppy | Blargle? |
| 00:12.05 | cbreak | using high numbers in lotto is beneficial |
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| 00:12.26 | cbreak | since the probability you have to share a win in case you win is smaller, due to the bigger density of bets on birthdates |
| 00:12.31 | Codex| | so nquestlog has been workin fine, then it broke out of nowhere. anyone else? |
| 00:13.10 | AbsoRayne | Lopeppeppy: BRWBAGWABGWAGRBAWG! |
| 00:13.18 | Amarande | cbreak: yeah, but oftentimes fortune cookie numbers are too high to use in a particular game |
| 00:13.25 | Lopeppeppy | AbsoRayne, stop channeling insane murlocs, dear. *hug* |
| 00:13.38 | Amarande | Lopeppeppy, I'm going to have to keep an eye on you, just in case you caught that disease :) |
| 00:13.42 | Amarande | it's ten times worse than the scourge |
| 00:13.44 | AbsoRayne | Lopeppeppy: But theyre cute :( |
| 00:13.50 | cbreak | you can always use a modulo op .) |
| 00:13.56 | Amarande | at least the scourge only turns you into an undead ... this one turns you into a murloc :) |
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| 00:14.21 | Amarande | Codex: what kind of breakage? I used to use nQuestLog |
| 00:14.27 | Amarande | although I've been using QuestGuru since 3.0 |
| 00:14.50 | Codex| | popping a ton of errors to bugsack |
| 00:14.51 | Amarande | anyway, with the lottos around here in Connecticut |
| 00:14.58 | Lopeppeppy | Amarande, I speak Murloc fluently, I have a toddler in the family. :) But AbsoRayne needs to speak Engrish. |
| 00:15.06 | Shirik | ok this is new |
| 00:15.10 | Shirik | can't summon someone |
| 00:15.12 | AbsoRayne | :( |
| 00:15.13 | Shirik | due to "Player Not Found" |
| 00:15.32 | Amarande | we have powerball, which needs 5 numbers 1-55 and one number 1-42, we have cash five, which is a 5/35 lotto with an optional bonus number for an extra 50 cents, and we have lotto, which is a straight 6/44 game |
| 00:15.43 | Amarande | Shirik: warlock? |
| 00:15.48 | Shirik | stone |
| 00:15.54 | Amarande | I've had strange behavior with warlock summons at least since 3.0 |
| 00:15.58 | Amarande | did I mention that time I broke my GM? |
| 00:16.06 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, did they recently transfer or rename? |
| 00:16.12 | Shirik | They is me! |
| 00:16.15 | Shirik | and no |
| 00:16.17 | Codex| | nQuestLog-1.0 r%d.75646\nQuestLogCore.lua:295: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'iGot' (a nil value) |
| 00:16.17 | Codex| | nQuestLog-1.0 r%d.75646\nQuestLogFuBar.lua:164: in function <Interface\AddOns\nQuestLog\nQuestLogFuBar.lua:163> |
| 00:16.17 | Codex| | (tail call): ?: |
| 00:16.30 | Lopeppeppy | WTF then, Shirik. I see you just fine, go be summoned like a good priestie. |
| 00:17.25 | Amarande | Shirik: it was like, the day or the day after 3.0.2 patch day |
| 00:17.34 | Amarande | our gm decided we would all be going for the jenkins title |
| 00:17.50 | Amarande | except we got into LBRS, got to the door to UBRS and he realized he left the UBRS key in bank |
| 00:17.54 | Amarande | so he hearthed to get it and told me to re-summon him |
| 00:18.05 | Amarande | I did, and when he accepted summons back into LBRS he DC'd |
| 00:18.25 | Amarande | and every time he tried to log back on that toon after that, he DC'd immediately again ... he had to get a GM to fix it |
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| 00:18.50 | Kaso | what caused that then? |
| 00:18.50 | Amarande | Kaso: we're not sure |
| 00:18.58 | Lopeppeppy | instance hate! |
| 00:19.04 | Amarande | I presume it was something to do with patch day instabilities |
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| 00:19.09 | Amarande | combined with the fact that he was being summoned cross-server |
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| 00:19.21 | Shirik | I personally liked the time we wiped in BT, and someone released to the barrens |
| 00:19.21 | Amarande | since I understand WoW uses a different world server for instances vs. world |
| 00:19.42 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet. |
| 00:19.52 | Shirik | I think they might have DCed and returned in the barrens |
| 00:19.54 | Shirik | it was something ilke that |
| 00:20.34 | Amarande | I do remember there was a hell of a lot of instability with the instance servers the first few days after 3.0 |
| 00:20.41 | Kaso | When BWL first came out remember people appearing under arithi after wipes? |
| 00:20.42 | Amarande | to the point that people were afraid to do instances |
| 00:25.23 | zenzelezz | a lot of people seem to end up in Westfall these days |
| 00:27.45 | AnduinLothar | center of the universe |
| 00:28.20 | Shirik | wtf |
| 00:28.23 | Amarande | I'm glad I don't end up in XR very often |
| 00:28.24 | Shirik | noody can summon to northrend |
| 00:28.26 | Amarande | it's usually under attack on Turalyon |
| 00:28.35 | Shirik | I can't be summoned from org, someone else can't be summoned from outlands |
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| 00:29.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Phasing? |
| 00:29.38 | Amarande | Shirik: asked Turalyon /2 and they're not sure either, except it's "kinda buggy" |
| 00:30.05 | Shirik | what phasing is there in org? |
| 00:30.14 | Amarande | wtf, someone just asked /1 in orgrimmar for help researching Emily Rose |
| 00:30.27 | ScytheBlade1 | There's the UC event chain |
| 00:30.28 | Fisker- | Wrathgate event |
| 00:30.33 | Shirik | ok |
| 00:30.37 | Shirik | I'm passed that ScytheBlade1 |
| 00:30.37 | ScytheBlade1 | But I was thinking more like phasing in Northrend |
| 00:30.41 | Amarande | Shirik: maybe the place you're in is phased? |
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| 00:30.52 | Fisker- | did you complete the battle for undercity Shirik ? :3 |
| 00:30.54 | Shirik | yes |
| 00:30.58 | Fisker- | awright |
| 00:32.03 | zenzelezz | lies |
| 00:32.07 | zenzelezz | he leeched off of Varian |
| 00:33.06 | Fisker- | i remember someone complaining about being unable to do raids on other cities |
| 00:33.06 | Fisker- | :D |
| 00:33.27 | Fisker- | Because the bosses would be invisible, and he would be ported to stormwind(In UC because of the event) |
| 00:33.43 | Fisker- | but of course he hadn't done battle for UC :D |
| 00:35.27 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=7120112271&pageNo=1&sid=1 <-OMG I'M IN THE ALPHA |
| 00:35.45 | Fisker- | natural selection is awesome |
| 00:36.26 | zenzelezz | did they ever port it to one of the newer game engines? |
| 00:36.32 | Arrowmaster | valkyrion harpoon guns are epic, you can grief your own faction with them |
| 00:39.40 | Amarande | hmm |
| 00:39.51 | Amarande | frostwolf perfection should be 50 or even 100 achievement points. |
| 00:40.52 | Amarande | -not only- do I not know if Horde on ANY battlegroup are good enough to pull that one off |
| 00:40.59 | Amarande | but even if you ARE good enough, it has huge mechanical difficulties |
| 00:41.30 | Amarande | for instance, how are you going to convince your horde team not to kill Bal ... yet, you actually -must not- kill Bal for that achievement, despite it being called 'perfection' heh |
| 00:41.49 | Fisker- | wat? |
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| 00:42.08 | End | which is the perfection one? |
| 00:42.22 | Amarande | Frostwolf Perfection requires you to win AV without losing either of your generals, AND you must be in control of ALL towers |
| 00:42.39 | Amarande | The reason you cannot kill Bal, is because if you do, Alliance will hit 0 before you can control all required points |
| 00:42.39 | Corrodias | ...achievement -points-? what are those for? |
| 00:42.50 | zenzelezz | nothing |
| 00:42.52 | zenzelezz | epeen |
| 00:42.58 | Corrodias | eyeroll~ |
| 00:43.11 | Amarande | but yeah, that one should be worth way more than 20 |
| 00:43.16 | Amarande | hell, you get 25 for exploring outland |
| 00:43.21 | Amarande | which is probably the easiest exploration there is |
| 00:43.26 | Fisker- | well i've done it with killing balinda |
| 00:43.30 | Amarande | actually, close to 100 for exploring outland when you count the zone ones |
| 00:44.28 | Wobin | Amarande: You'd be better off making a 25 premade for that achievement =P |
| 00:48.13 | Gnarfoz | http://media.putfile.com/WizardsofWinter-SM < remember this? if so, check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W7xj5f-eCs :D (same guys) - and click 'watch in hq', too. (isn't there some way you can force HQ via the link? :\) |
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| 00:48.54 | Gnarfoz | although I have to say, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZJfWMva8Sk beats that :D |
| 00:49.22 | Amarande | I'm still also wondering if we'll ever have a horde team that can win av in 6 min, either |
| 00:49.31 | Amarande | and this is on stormstrike, which is one of the battlegroups where Horde is best at AV |
| 00:51.09 | ecs | argh, you triggered my highlight gnarfoz |
| 00:51.21 | Gnarfoz | ecs: ahahaha. :D |
| 00:51.34 | ecs | 5W7xj5f-eCs |
| 00:51.42 | bleeter | hah, people reporting website/forum login problems again |
| 00:51.56 | bleeter | last time they did that was blizz's first lame attempt at a fix for the authenticator |
| 00:52.02 | End | we've had a horde team "win" in 6 minutes |
| 00:52.05 | End | however... |
| 00:52.11 | End | it was because there weren't enough players |
| 00:52.18 | Amarande | End: they didn't arrange to have Alliance give up, did they? :P |
| 00:52.46 | End | nono, the server forced the game to end in 6 minutes and noone won, but it counted it as a win for horde |
| 00:52.53 | End | well, for the achievement at least :P |
| 00:52.55 | AnduinLothar | thats how i got it |
| 00:52.59 | End | yeah |
| 00:53.53 | End | I wonder if it gives it to both sides when that happens |
| 00:54.11 | Fisker- | fuck |
| 00:54.18 | AnduinLothar | no, one side wins |
| 00:54.30 | Fisker- | Should've waited when using AV to port at level 80 when i were among the first on the servers :P |
| 00:55.03 | Fisker- | btw |
| 00:55.08 | Fisker- | the frostwolf perfection game we got |
| 00:55.13 | Fisker- | It was actually quite long |
| 00:55.17 | End | I thought of doing that, but I forgot |
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| 00:55.21 | Amarande | hmm |
| 00:55.24 | Fisker- | so it's possible that they've probably regained enough points for us to win it that way |
| 00:55.46 | Amarande | we also might only have a few more weeks or so to practically do The Sickly Gazelle, too |
| 00:56.22 | Amarande | unless by luck |
| 00:56.25 | End | sickly gazelle is a really bad one for my spec |
| 00:56.38 | Amarande | End: Aff lock? |
| 00:56.40 | End | yup |
| 00:56.51 | Amarande | It's going to be more or less impossible for you soon, unless you respec |
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| 00:57.13 | Amarande | or you get really lucky in a zerg and finish a player's last sliver |
| 00:57.48 | Amarande | It just occurred to me that blitzing someone that quickly is going to spike massively in difficulty once Arena starts and the 80 PvP gear is released |
| 00:59.08 | Amarande | End: how much do you think resilience will impact the difficulty of that? |
| 00:59.23 | Amarande | right now, I'd say it's not so bad at least for -someone- to get that achievement many av's if you zerg someone in the Fields |
| 00:59.33 | Amarande | but right now, also, 80's are really squishy |
| 00:59.48 | Amarande | because they probably gave up their 70 pvp gear while leveling, and the 80 pvp gear isn't out yet |
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| 01:00.23 | End | mm I dunno |
| 01:00.45 | End | it's a pity people can dismount while feared :P |
| 01:00.56 | End | the problem is people realizing what you're trying to do :P |
| 01:01.19 | Amarande | End: I'm not sure what it would be to them to dismount then though |
| 01:01.31 | Amarande | seeing as whether you get the achievement or not, they're still going back to the graveyard, and you're still getting an HK |
| 01:01.37 | End | I'm making an assumption they are assholes :P |
| 01:01.45 | Codex| | who else uses nquestlog here |
| 01:01.56 | Amarande | speaking of which, I still wonder about folks in AV who insist that HK's aren't important |
| 01:04.11 | Amarande | I wonder what they plan to do with all those marks without honor? |
| 01:04.15 | Amarande | or do they only plan to get mounts :S |
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| 01:05.00 | Amarande | well, going out of your way to get an HK at the expense of the battle is bad |
| 01:05.18 | Amarande | however, drawn-out skirmishes that result in a lot of battle honor without really changing the state of the BG are generally good |
| 01:06.17 | zenzelezz | I remember when people used to complain about AV lasting hours |
| 01:06.41 | bleeter | buncha wimps... I complain that it no longer lasts days |
| 01:07.12 | bleeter | the reward system blew goats, wasn't anything wrong with an epic battle lasting days... makes it epic ffs |
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| 01:09.20 | foxlit | Tbh, AV needs more minefield |
| 01:09.21 | foxlit | s |
| 01:09.24 | foxlit | And Korrak |
| 01:09.25 | zenzelezz | coincidentally, that was around the time people kept linking [Your Mom Is The Immovable Object] |
| 01:10.19 | Amarande | ok ... tonight's Original Name Award goes to a shaman in trade chat. |
| 01:10.21 | Amarande | name: "Enhåncement" |
| 01:10.41 | AnduinLothar | win |
| 01:10.55 | zenzelezz | slightly better than all the "Survivalhunt"s |
| 01:12.13 | Amarande | my last few Belves, I actually looked through an Elvish dictionary for words to use as names |
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| 01:14.45 | foxlit | conincidentially, what's elvish for "dictionary" "fuck" and "thesaurus". |
| 01:18.43 | Gnarfoz | zenzelezz: immovable object hmmm I think that was referenced in the last Heroes episode ;D |
| 01:20.55 | Amarande | there is no Quenya word for 'fuck' :P |
| 01:21.23 | Gnarfoz | kind of weird, considering all the fucking going on in the Silmarillion :p |
| 01:21.45 | zenzelezz | the problem with "elvish" is that there's so incredibly many different kinds |
| 01:22.14 | Amarande | aw. crud. |
| 01:22.16 | Amarande | I forgot to get off the zepp |
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| 01:43.24 | Tekkub | huh huh... hubby on autofollow, every time I stop his cat shoves it head up my bear's ass |
| 01:43.54 | zenzelezz | like owner, like... |
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| 01:52.40 | Amarande | hmm |
| 01:52.44 | Amarande | are northrend quest rewards non-vendorable? |
| 01:52.57 | Corrodias | that would be shameful |
| 01:53.05 | AnduinLothar | no |
| 01:53.12 | AnduinLothar | i vendor al mine |
| 01:58.08 | Amarande | bah, need to see if there's a new auctioneer then I guess |
| 01:58.19 | Amarande | the tooltips I have right now don't give me prices for NR quests apparently |
| 01:58.41 | Anaral | Newest beta does Amarande |
| 01:59.38 | Amarande | I'm also noting that NR is a good bit more fun as demo than it was as aff |
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| 02:48.12 | Amarande | wow |
| 02:48.15 | Amarande | I haven't seen it this quiet in ages |
| 02:48.39 | ScytheBlade1 | It comes and goes |
| 02:51.06 | Tem | a whole 40 minutes without someone talking |
| 02:51.10 | Tem | that's pretty rare in here |
| 02:52.53 | Amarande | I'm also surprised at the number of 80s on this realm already |
| 02:52.59 | Amarande | people don't take their time, do they LOL |
| 02:53.35 | Anaral | What you haven't cleared 25 Naxx yet? Slow poke. ;p |
| 02:53.37 | Anaral | j/k |
| 02:53.58 | keias | hrm |
| 02:54.04 | keias | Has anyeon else got a lmemPool.cpp error? |
| 02:54.43 | Cide | Amarande: no, I don't think they're laughing out loud. |
| 02:58.42 | Amarande | lol, my felguard rides the failboat |
| 02:58.54 | Amarande | he stumbled and fell down a cliff and had to mob-glide back up it while intercepting a nerubian |
| 03:00.09 | Amarande | also, intercept seems to be slightly buggy |
| 03:00.17 | Amarande | the target gets stunned when it's cast, rather than when the felguard gets there :S |
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| 03:01.17 | Amarande | or is that one of those design decisions that's intended but illogical? |
| 03:02.00 | zenzelezz | aren't all charge-type spells like that? |
| 03:03.21 | Amarande | zenzelezz: not sure off the top of my head, since I don't play a warrior or druid much |
| 03:03.58 | Anaral | Geez the last point of weapon skill (in this case unarmed) takes forever! |
| 03:04.19 | Amarande | also: nerub'ar corpse harvesters sound like horses when hit :| |
| 03:04.42 | zenzelezz | better than the blood-elves sounding like cats |
| 03:05.24 | Adys | uhhhh if you're not 80 yet you're not "taking your time" |
| 03:05.28 | Adys | you're just not playing at all |
| 03:05.42 | Adys | or lvling 3 alts at the same time |
| 03:06.30 | Anaral | Adys, there are those with work and lives... and families. Not everyone can spend at min 3 hours a day for a week. |
| 03:06.36 | sacarasc | guildy already 5 boxed to 80 |
| 03:06.37 | Adys | what? |
| 03:06.44 | Adys | getting to 80 is a whooping 38-40 hours of playtime non rested, rested its prolly 30 hours |
| 03:06.53 | Adys | supposing you play 1 hour a day you'd be 80 |
| 03:07.09 | |pez| | I'm 75 |
| 03:07.16 | AnduinLothar | i just got to 80 2 days ago and some guildies got it yesterday |
| 03:07.21 | |pez| | and I've been playing since WotLK got out. :P XD |
| 03:07.37 | Amarande | zenzelezz: or the dragon whelps that go SPROING like some kind of machine |
| 03:07.55 | Adys | i dont have anything against ppl levelling slowly |
| 03:08.02 | Anaral | I only turned 80 on this past Tuesday. But my father also had cancer removed from his chest and was in the hospital for a week, so yeah, not everyone can play everyday. ;) |
| 03:08.03 | Adys | when i got to 60 i had over 40 days /played |
| 03:08.12 | Amarande | yeah, some of us were doing other things, like finishing the old world explorations before moving on to outland :) |
| 03:08.19 | Adys | but saying "you're not taking your time" or whatever ... |
| 03:08.25 | AnduinLothar | i leveled fishing and cooking :P |
| 03:08.38 | AnduinLothar | and BS and mining |
| 03:08.42 | AnduinLothar | tho mining is easy |
| 03:08.52 | AnduinLothar | so is first aid |
| 03:09.00 | Amarande | mining is easy? |
| 03:09.03 | Anaral | I think the only people we can say didn't take their time are those that lvled within the first 48 hours without stopping or logging off. ;) |
| 03:09.04 | Adys | yes |
| 03:09.05 | AnduinLothar | hell yes |
| 03:09.06 | Amarande | maybe if you stay in outland till 400-425 or so |
| 03:09.11 | Adys | no need to |
| 03:09.13 | Adys | mining is piss easy |
| 03:09.13 | Amarande | Adys: server dependent |
| 03:09.19 | Adys | no |
| 03:09.24 | Adys | not server dependent |
| 03:09.27 | Adys | mining is piss easy. |
| 03:09.31 | Amarande | on this realm, I'm hearing people go on and on about how cobalt seemed to be all over the place when the expansion came out |
| 03:09.34 | Amarande | and now they can't find any |
| 03:09.35 | AnduinLothar | once you get flying mount oyu can level mining in like a day |
| 03:09.52 | AnduinLothar | cobalt just farm drak |
| 03:09.56 | Adys | because they're looking in the wrong spots? |
| 03:10.09 | AnduinLothar | for saronite the basin or icecrown |
| 03:10.43 | |pez| | Question, mining nodes and such in instances... do they re"spawn" when you reset the instance? |
| 03:10.58 | Adys | yes |
| 03:11.04 | AnduinLothar | i had sold my pick accidently so i didn't even pick one up until i was 73 and then got mining to max before i even hit 78 |
| 03:11.08 | |pez| | Well, that's sort of cool. |
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| 03:11.54 | |pez| | I'm thinking maybe bringing some good guildies to instance runs would be a good plan if I need ores XD |
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| 03:17.29 | linear` | mining is so lucrative i made 10k in 3 days mining for 3 hrs a day in icecrown |
| 03:18.03 | |pez| | :o |
| 03:18.40 | |pez| | I'd love to have enough gold for epic flying and cold weather flying when I hit 77 XD |
| 03:20.42 | AnduinLothar | i had already made 2500g from lvling 70-77 |
| 03:20.50 | Amarande | hmm |
| 03:20.56 | Amarande | do any of the old money maker dailies give any gold anymore? |
| 03:21.01 | Amarande | or do they only give 12650xp and no gold? |
| 03:21.19 | AnduinLothar | xp would be hax |
| 03:22.44 | Adys | xp decays once quests are gray |
| 03:22.48 | Adys | they give like 1k xp |
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| 03:26.41 | Tem | oh my god |
| 03:26.46 | Tem | I'm going to make myself sick |
| 03:26.55 | Tem | I'm eating the last of the leftovers from thanksgiving |
| 03:27.03 | Tem | but omfg it's so much better once it's a week old |
| 03:27.08 | Tem | like holy crap |
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| 03:27.15 | Tem | I didn't even like this stuff that much last week |
| 03:27.25 | Tem | but now I can't stop eating |
| 03:29.07 | Amarande | Adys: I was more thinking at 70 |
| 03:29.28 | Adys | about 10k xp and 4g |
| 03:29.43 | Adys | i stocked up 25 dailies i could handin within 5 mins at 70 |
| 03:29.53 | Adys | got me about 350k headstart |
| 03:30.02 | AnduinLothar | Additional instances cannot be launched, please try again later. FAIL |
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| 03:31.17 | |pez| | AnduinLothar? 0.o |
| 03:35.54 | AnduinLothar | did blizzard breat CASTABLE in UnitBuff? |
| 03:36.05 | Tem | break? |
| 03:36.14 | AnduinLothar | it's the 3rd argument, right? |
| 03:36.30 | Adys | which class, AnduinLothar ? |
| 03:36.35 | Tem | ~api UnitBuff |
| 03:36.35 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitBuff |
| 03:37.00 | AnduinLothar | yeah it's not workign on party |
| 03:37.01 | Tem | actually, I think the wiki is wrong |
| 03:37.11 | Tem | I think the third argument is filter |
| 03:37.33 | Tem | which is things like "HARMFUL" |
| 03:37.35 | AnduinLothar | oh i do remeber somehting abotu that |
| 03:37.43 | Adys | also shouldnt isStealable be isPurgeable |
| 03:38.28 | AnduinLothar | think the target code says stealable |
| 03:39.04 | Adys | purge/dispell used the same arg afaik |
| 03:39.23 | Adys | value even |
| 03:39.25 | Adys | tired |
| 03:39.55 | AnduinLothar | ya http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitBuff |
| 03:40.23 | AnduinLothar | that sounds wrong too |
| 03:40.27 | p3lim | ckknight: ping |
| 03:40.32 | AnduinLothar | cause i dont think 1 works |
| 03:40.34 | ckknight | hey p3lim |
| 03:40.40 | p3lim | ckknight: how does PitBull handle the new vehicles? |
| 03:40.48 | p3lim | have you added any support for that yet? |
| 03:40.50 | ckknight | not as well as I'd hoped |
| 03:40.58 | p3lim | i need to fix the same issue for oUF |
| 03:41.02 | ckknight | I believe Shefki helped out with that, though |
| 03:41.04 | ckknight | I'd ask him |
| 03:41.11 | Tem | you kind of can't atm |
| 03:41.13 | p3lim | using events and resetting attributes, but it doesnt work in combat |
| 03:41.14 | Tem | that's the problem |
| 03:41.39 | Tem | you can be visually accurate, at least |
| 03:41.48 | Tem | but clicky stuff won't work right |
| 03:41.56 | Adys | ckknight: while you're here, any idea if the combat error was fixed on target/focus ? |
| 03:42.06 | p3lim | so its not just to set new attributes when the event hits? |
| 03:42.20 | ckknight | I don't know, Adys, sorry |
| 03:42.32 | Adys | aight |
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| 03:46.58 | p3lim | atleast with out |
| 03:47.24 | p3lim | maybe on an event function, if(self.unit ~= unit) then self.unit = unit end |
| 03:47.42 | p3lim | gonna work a bit with it, but i doubth that would work, even though its simplicity |
| 03:57.12 | AnduinLothar | yeah, i cant get UnitBuff 3rd argument to do anythign |
| 03:57.20 | p3lim | what events is run when one enters vehicle? |
| 03:58.12 | p3lim | or leaves, for that matter |
| 03:59.06 | linear` | player_entered_vehicle, player_entering_vehicle, and exiting |
| 03:59.18 | mikma | propably ZOMG_THE_LASERZ |
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| 04:05.50 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/area51ghetto.png |
| 04:07.56 | mikma | so, there was these Radio Rock Finlandia -awards yesterrdya. |
| 04:08.32 | mikma | Nightwish won, but Amorphis rules. They did play two song |
| 04:08.44 | mikma | Her Alone, from the latest album |
| 04:09.13 | mikma | Alone, frim Am Universum, 2001, when they had the old singer in the band |
| 04:09.27 | mikma | and god damn that song rules so samn much |
| 04:11.42 | mikma | shadowed: |
| 04:11.52 | Shadowed | mikma pinging me is never a good thing |
| 04:11.58 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz04FHL6U_I |
| 04:13.29 | Shadowed | Yea I got that album, it's a great song |
| 04:13.42 | Shadowed | except the nose ring is a bit much |
| 04:13.44 | mikma | the melodies rule so damn much |
| 04:14.22 | Shadowed | yea |
| 04:14.32 | mikma | the new singer did awesome job singing that song too |
| 04:16.07 | mikma | hmm |
| 04:17.04 | mikma | the tv channel might have it online |
| 04:18.16 | mikma | shadowed: i also have problems with Damn Mount |
| 04:18.20 | Shadowed | I fixed that |
| 04:18.30 | Shadowed | forgot to ping you on it |
| 04:18.36 | Shadowed | pushed a fix yesterday |
| 04:18.40 | mikma | ok another question about it |
| 04:18.44 | Shadowed | ? |
| 04:18.53 | mikma | do you have a check if the char is lower than 77 ? |
| 04:19.00 | Shadowed | nope |
| 04:19.20 | mikma | nugMount tries to put flying mount on in the landing zone of dalaran on my lvl71 shaman :D |
| 04:19.27 | Shadowed | basically |
| 04:19.35 | Shadowed | You have to run a scan twice anyway to setup the mounts |
| 04:19.44 | Shadowed | so you might as well just not run the scan, and put it on manually |
| 04:20.06 | Shadowed | oh right |
| 04:20.21 | Shadowed | It's because you can't check if you're in Northrend specifically or something |
| 04:27.51 | mikma | shadowed: http://nelonen.fi/nettitv/default.asp?videoID=532¤tPage=7&liftCategory=1&liftType=0&vidType=1 |
| 04:28.01 | mikma | shadowed: don't mind about the stupid ad at the beginning |
| 04:28.12 | Shadowed | "We are sorry to inform you that for copyright reasons the program/series you chose is only available in Finland. Most of the Finnish programs/series can be viewed from foreing countries." |
| 04:28.13 | mikma | shadowed: amorphis starts at 1:20 |
| 04:28.19 | mikma | pffff |
| 04:29.15 | mikma | now i wonder how in the hell can i save it |
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| 04:36.18 | mikma | oh well, i can't figure out how to get the video from there |
| 04:38.48 | mikma | http://mikma.reaktio.net/foo.txt <- source code, propably contains the link of the video but i can't "decrypt" it :D |
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| 04:53.29 | mikma | cairenn: wut? http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info11852-ManualfixestalkedaboutbyCosmicClericforWotLKbugs.html |
| 04:54.19 | mikma | needs a better name imho |
| 04:54.49 | mikma | only one places points out its a patch for color blind or so |
| 04:58.37 | mikma | i wanna change my wowi name to "Mikma the mighty" =/ other people have cool names too! like "Cosmic Cleric", or "Ethan Centaurai" |
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| 05:15.25 | ScytheBlade1 | holy crap |
| 05:15.33 | ScytheBlade1 | So I'm looking at this laptop that supposedly has a virus on it |
| 05:15.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Evidently the owner noticed it slowing down, so he installed an anti-virus |
| 05:15.46 | Amarande | and? |
| 05:15.54 | ScytheBlade1 | It slowed down more (duh?) so he installed another |
| 05:15.54 | Amarande | don't tell me, the virus has mutated to a super AI |
| 05:15.56 | ScytheBlade1 | And another |
| 05:16.01 | Amarande | and is trying to take over the network? |
| 05:16.17 | ScytheBlade1 | And then there were no less than four full-content hard drive indexing programs |
| 05:16.40 | Amarande | heh, they should do a world event in WoW like the .hack games |
| 05:23.40 | Shirik | Is there any meta gem like the old chance to regen mana per spellcast? |
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| 05:48.54 | pompy_ | Shirik: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41401 |
| 05:53.58 | ScytheBlade1 | kinda NSFW but quite lol worthy: http://penny-arcade.com/ |
| 05:54.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Ignore the first post, read the last three |
| 05:56.12 | Tem | GOD DAMNIT I'M TRYING TO RUN A CHARITY HERE |
| 05:56.24 | ScytheBlade1 | right below the dickerdoodles, hahahaha |
| 05:57.30 | Shirik | HI ScytheBlade1!!! |
| 05:57.39 | Corrodias | hah |
| 05:58.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Hi Shirik |
| 06:00.23 | ScytheBlade1 | What'd you break this time? |
| 06:04.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Nothing? This is a first |
| 06:07.28 | Shirik | :( I have more int than spirit atm |
| 06:07.35 | Shirik | anyway, ScytheBlade1, everything works!! |
| 06:07.41 | Shirik | I'm still not using linode's dns though |
| 06:07.52 | Shirik | and I want to set up an automated backup but my other server isn't in the same data center |
| 06:07.58 | Shirik | not to mention I don't actually have access to that server anyway |
| 06:08.23 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 06:08.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Automated backup of your DNS? |
| 06:08.48 | Adys | How would I make a frame that covers entire UIParent in XML? eg. without setting the size or something |
| 06:08.58 | Adys | (or a good example of it?) |
| 06:09.07 | Shirik | you wouldn't |
| 06:09.11 | Shirik | because you hate XML |
| 06:09.14 | ScytheBlade1 | <Frame parent="UIParent" setAllPoints="true"> |
| 06:09.14 | Shirik | and you would rather do it in Lua |
| 06:09.30 | Adys | Shirik: I know |
| 06:09.37 | Shirik | night |
| 06:09.44 | Adys | I just have a bug in my lua which I'm trying to track down =/ |
| 06:09.51 | Adys | cheers ScytheBlade1, night Shirik|zZz |
| 06:10.03 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 06:10.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik|zZz: DNS backups are easy |
| 06:14.40 | Thunder_Child | Shirik|zZz, why not just back it up to your computer, it's a remote location |
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| 06:37.05 | Adys | ScytheBlade1: I still have to set the size, any way to work around that? |
| 06:37.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Adys: you shouldn't, with setAllPoints="true" |
| 06:37.30 | Adys | if I dont, it doesn't show |
| 06:37.51 | ScytheBlade1 | <Size><RelDimensions x="1" y="1" /></Size> |
| 06:37.55 | ScytheBlade1 | iirc |
| 06:38.03 | Adys | ok lemme try |
| 06:38.15 | ScytheBlade1 | It's either Dimension*s* |
| 06:38.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Or without the s |
| 06:38.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Can't remember |
| 06:39.20 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, common usage is () |
| 06:40.58 | Adys | ScytheBlade1: got it, i had to remove the anchor too |
| 06:41.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah, yes, you would |
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| 06:52.40 | Patrick_P | hi |
| 06:53.10 | Patrick_P | can any1 tell me what's the book bout wow addons again? |
| 06:53.20 | Patrick_P | the cogwheel's one |
| 06:53.28 | Patrick_P | i'm gonna buy it i think... |
| 06:54.00 | Patrick_P | well i think it's cogwheel |
| 06:54.53 | Thunder_Child | ~wowprograming |
| 06:54.57 | Thunder_Child | err |
| 06:55.58 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn: ^^ my brain died |
| 06:56.11 | Cairenn | ~wowprogramming |
| 06:56.12 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons (http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob) a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 06:56.21 | Thunder_Child | oh...i just cant spell, got it |
| 06:56.30 | Thunder_Child | ty Cairenn :) |
| 06:56.36 | Cairenn | welcome |
| 06:56.48 | Patrick_P | lol thx |
| 06:57.57 | Patrick_P | and it worth it? and is it up to date? |
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| 06:58.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Up to date for what? |
| 06:59.56 | Patrick_P | well basic wow programming... with the current wow api and all the thing... |
| 07:00.04 | ScytheBlade1 | It's out of date in two areas |
| 07:00.19 | ScytheBlade1 | (1) combat log parsing and (2) a subsection of secure frames |
| 07:00.31 | ScytheBlade1 | (1) is very easy to pick up |
| 07:00.46 | ScytheBlade1 | (2) is a bit more involved but infinitely easier now than when it was published |
| 07:01.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, and unitbuffs/debufss |
| 07:01.13 | ScytheBlade1 | But if your goal is to learn how to write addons, it'll be of value to you |
| 07:01.24 | Thunder_Child | all of the updates are on the site iirc |
| 07:02.50 | Patrick_P | k well i'm gonna buy it... it's onl 30$ afterall... |
| 07:03.00 | ScytheBlade1 | It is very affordable, it's true |
| 07:03.05 | ScytheBlade1 | And it's a fantastic reference |
| 07:04.15 | Patrick_P | around how many pages it have? i mean it's not a 10 pages prank? lol |
| 07:04.22 | ScytheBlade1 | ~1100 |
| 07:04.29 | Patrick_P | nice:) |
| 07:04.29 | ScytheBlade1 | It's not a tiny book |
| 07:04.42 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got a copy here, and well |
| 07:04.46 | ScytheBlade1 | I could kill with it :P |
| 07:05.12 | Patrick_P | lol |
| 07:05.55 | Amarande | ScytheBlade1: nah, if you want to use something geeky to kill someone, I'm sure nothing yet beats dropping a classic Xbox on their head LOL |
| 07:05.58 | Thunder_Child | pfft, i can kill people |
| 07:06.00 | Patrick_P | loa seems to be a really basic language tho... i don't think i'd need any paper reference to learn it... |
| 07:06.01 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 07:06.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Patrick_P: no, you wouldn't - but appling it to the WoW API |
| 07:06.20 | ScytheBlade1 | That's another thing entirely |
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| 07:06.27 | Amarande | I remember the Xbox had to have special warnings in the manual about the dangerousness of it falling on small children and such :P |
| 07:06.52 | Patrick_P | yeah i know that's why i want this book |
| 07:07.50 | Patrick_P | well do you think there's an other book i'd absolutely need too? |
| 07:07.54 | ScytheBlade1 | No |
| 07:08.02 | Patrick_P | cool... |
| 07:08.11 | Amarande | I wonder how long before the Glacial Bag will be seen on the AH |
| 07:08.23 | Amarande | or if it will -ever- actually be considered a practical alternative on many servers to Haris' |
| 07:10.21 | Patrick_P | hey btw... i'm french... if any of u need help with some localisations... i can help:) |
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| 07:12.20 | Amarande | I know we won't see Glacial Bags for a while yet on Turalyon at least |
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| 07:21.03 | Patrick_P | can't wait to start my own addon... i did studied computer siences at the college... i did 2 programmation courses... and it never served... lol |
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| 07:27.40 | MentalPower | Patrick_P: http://localizer.norganna.org |
| 07:28.21 | Patrick_P | what's this? |
| 07:28.38 | MentalPower | for localizations |
| 07:29.52 | Patrick_P | kk |
| 07:31.24 | Patrick_P | so i submit my translations and they approve it? |
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| 07:43.39 | ccox | Sigh. Will tekkub ever update TourGuide for northrend? |
| 07:43.55 | Tekkub | way to pay attention |
| 07:44.37 | ccox | well, I even checked your depot and all you seem to have is a little bit of howling fjord |
| 07:45.03 | ccox | unless I missed some files |
| 07:46.29 | Patrick_P | lol there's people doing a really bad job translating this project... |
| 07:47.47 | Patrick_P | can't belive auctioneer is so wrongly translater... well... in french at least... |
| 07:47.57 | Patrick_P | translated* |
| 07:50.21 | Thunder_Child | so go over to #norganna and poke them about it |
| 07:50.26 | Thunder_Child | norgana? |
| 07:50.31 | Thunder_Child | something like that |
| 07:50.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Nah, use the site |
| 07:50.39 | Adys | norganna yes |
| 07:50.42 | ccox | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:50.42 | ScytheBlade1 | That's what it's there for |
| 07:50.55 | ccox | better yet, go fix the translations in the localizer for the norganna addons |
| 07:51.04 | ccox | even the translations are open source... |
| 07:51.24 | ccox | there's even some info about it in the auctioneer forums |
| 07:51.40 | Adys | http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12893 "GTA2 doesn't work on the eeepc but works fine on an nvidia card (...) it is too slow to be playable." |
| 07:51.51 | Adys | did that guy expect the eeepc to run a 3d game fast or something |
| 07:52.44 | Amarande | maybe he thought EEE meant Electronic Entertainment Expo :| |
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| 07:58.43 | ZorbaTHut | GTA2 is barely 3d |
| 07:58.50 | ZorbaTHut | it's more 2d. it used to run fine in software. |
| 08:00.27 | Adys | I don't play games, I wouldn't really know |
| 08:00.52 | MentalPower | Patrick_P: hence why I pointed you at it :) |
| 08:01.11 | Amarande | some bugs don't get fixed, anyway |
| 08:01.17 | Amarande | like this one graphics bug I keep getting in WoW every now and then |
| 08:01.35 | Amarande | apparently, if the green bar under my name in my unit frame becomes empty, the graphics all become monochrome |
| 08:01.35 | ZorbaTHut | sometimes they're just not worth fixing |
| 08:01.39 | Amarande | it also seems to cause most actions to be disabled |
| 08:01.43 | ZorbaTHut | that's curious |
| 08:01.50 | ZorbaTHut | it's like an instant noir mode |
| 08:01.53 | Amarande | usually keeps trying to tell me I'm 'dead' |
| 08:02.03 | Amarande | must be some kind of data error |
| 08:02.16 | Adys | addon, default ui..? |
| 08:02.33 | Amarande | Adys: yeah, it seems to happen with both x-perl addon frames and the default ui |
| 08:02.37 | Adys | which graphics become monochrome, where? |
| 08:02.43 | Amarande | when the green bar becomes empty, the world graphics become grey |
| 08:02.52 | Adys | ok |
| 08:02.54 | Amarande | and most of the mobs disappear |
| 08:02.58 | Adys | hold on |
| 08:03.00 | Amarande | and I keep seeing this angel mob that doesn't show up at other times |
| 08:03.18 | Amarande | once it helped me get into teldrassil without being flagged |
| 08:03.26 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Death |
| 08:03.28 | Adys | have a nice read |
| 08:05.56 | MentalPower | lol |
| 08:06.06 | MentalPower | took me a while to connect the dots |
| 08:06.11 | MentalPower | I need sleep |
| 08:06.30 | Adys | No, you need a better hobby than connecting dots |
| 08:06.34 | Adys | I stopped doing that at 8 |
| 08:06.45 | MentalPower | ~lart Adys |
| 08:06.45 | purl | changes Adys's permissions to 0777 and tells the world |
| 08:19.32 | Thunder_Child | Adys, that just makes you bad at it |
| 08:19.53 | Adys | qq |
| 08:20.00 | Thunder_Child | ~qq Adys |
| 08:20.01 | purl | CRY MOAR Adys |
| 08:20.09 | Adys | ~whaleqq Thunder_Child |
| 08:20.15 | Thunder_Child | HAH!~ |
| 08:20.20 | Thunder_Child | HAH!* |
| 08:20.20 | Adys | ~hah |
| 08:20.21 | purl | i guess hah is everone's second favorte word (see bah, heh) |
| 08:20.30 | Adys | ~heh |
| 08:20.30 | purl | heh |
| 08:21.07 | Adys | ~meh |
| 08:21.08 | purl | meh int. /meh/ [The Simpsons] An interjection expressing apathy |
| 08:23.12 | Thunder_Child | whaleqq $1 is $1 gets slapped up side the head with the qq whale of fail |
| 08:23.19 | Thunder_Child | ~whaleqq $1 is $1 gets slapped up side the head with the qq whale of fail |
| 08:23.20 | purl | Thunder_Child: okay |
| 08:23.20 | Adys | ~fail Thunder_Child |
| 08:23.21 | purl | Thunder_Child: FAIL! |
| 08:23.21 | AnduinLothar | lol @ bear train in dalaran |
| 08:23.31 | Thunder_Child | ~whaleqq Adys |
| 08:23.32 | purl | Adys gets slapped up side the head with the qq whale of fail |
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| 08:34.30 | Adys | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13287569382&sid=1 |
| 08:34.35 | Adys | people are ridiculous |
| 08:34.42 | Adys | Please at least drop a line to simply say "we know it's an issue and we're working on it". That's all we're asking, for now. |
| 08:34.46 | Adys | 4 posts later |
| 08:34.53 | Adys | Zip timetable in her response, though. No hint that it'll be the next patch, or even a patch over the next few months. |
| 08:44.09 | batrick | grr Patrick_P messes up my highlighting qq |
| 08:50.22 | Thunder_Child | dont whine batrick, it's not becoming |
| 08:50.50 | Thunder_Child | damit Adys, didnt you hear me call dibs on messing around with batrick? |
| 08:51.10 | Adys | No =( |
| 08:51.19 | Thunder_Child | Le Sigh |
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| 09:13.11 | Nechckn | Folks.. any way to make yourself invisible to only 1 user |
| 09:13.15 | Nechckn | or maybe a couple? |
| 09:14.11 | Wobin | http://www.unitednuclear.com/magnets.htm |
| 09:14.20 | Nechckn | Yes, I'm trying to hide from Thunder_Child, again... |
| 09:14.26 | Wobin | Nechckn: Just ignore him |
| 09:14.33 | Wobin | (literally) |
| 09:15.12 | Nechckn | btw, Hiya, Wobin! |
| 09:15.22 | Wobin | Heya Nechckn =) |
| 09:15.25 | Nechckn | have you actually ordered from that site? |
| 09:15.28 | Wobin | no |
| 09:15.30 | Wobin | =) |
| 09:15.32 | Nechckn | kk |
| 09:15.37 | Nechckn | looks good, though |
| 09:15.50 | Wobin | any site that offers 'dangerous magnets' can't be too bad =) |
| 09:16.09 | Nechckn | rofl - true |
| 09:17.48 | Thunder_Child | Nechckn, the fact that you are trying to hide AGAIN just says what kind of failure you are |
| 09:18.07 | Nechckn | =( |
| 09:18.29 | Nechckn | Just because you had the NSA track me down... doens't mean I can't do it again! |
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| 09:26.12 | Thunder_Child | if you can hide from the NSA Nechckn, you deserve it |
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| 10:58.23 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/why_so_serious2.jpg |
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| 11:05.01 | cladhaire | lol 44.2k |
| 11:05.02 | cladhaire | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/8036dd74bd4158aa02782c254cba2ab0.png |
| 11:05.13 | cladhaire | Now to put in ordering/dragging and alignment and i'm pretty much done. |
| 11:05.34 | mikma | ... |
| 11:05.38 | mikma | that's sick |
| 11:06.49 | abyx | does lua have function prototypes? or a way to use a function before you actually define it? |
| 11:08.19 | cladhaire | thats with CallbackHandler, LibStub and LibJostle |
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| 11:27.17 | AnduinLothar | Sexy Map? |
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| 11:32.20 | mikma | anyone else has some fps issues in wow? mine always starts to "lag" and i need to alt-tab to windows and back to get rid of it |
| 11:34.40 | cladhaire | AnduinLothar: yeah, addon Antiarc wrote |
| 11:34.47 | cladhaire | I may end up scrapping it in the end.. but its really really nice :P |
| 11:37.57 | cladhaire | now to make a data feed for TomTom |
| 11:38.01 | cladhaire | two feeds actually |
| 11:40.40 | AnduinLothar | so, piece of dumb here: UnitDebuff and UnitBuff now take "RAID" as their 3rd argument when it's sposed to be only castable or dispellable |
| 11:41.08 | AnduinLothar | instead of just any true value |
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| 11:47.21 | cladhaire | AnduinLothar: I'm not sure I understand.. |
| 11:47.55 | AnduinLothar | UnitBuff(unit, i, "RAID") instead of UnitBuff(unit, i, true) |
| 11:48.03 | cladhaire | yes, this is well documented in the API changes |
| 11:48.09 | cladhaire | the function signature was changed completely |
| 11:48.41 | AnduinLothar | well it's not well documented anywhere else then |
| 11:48.51 | cladhaire | O.o.. where else would you want it documented? |
| 11:49.05 | cladhaire | The new parameters and return values are: |
| 11:49.05 | cladhaire | name, rank, icon, count, debuffType, duration, expirationTime, isMine, isStealable = UnitAura("unit", [index] or ["name", "rank"][, "filter"]) |
| 11:49.11 | cladhaire | UnitBuff() and UnitDebuff() are aliases for UnitAura() with built in helpful/harmful filters. |
| 11:49.17 | cladhaire | it then goes on to explain what/how the filters work |
| 11:50.22 | AnduinLothar | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitBuff and http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitBuff are both outdated |
| 11:50.38 | cladhaire | yes they are, the website has not been fully updated for 3.X, nor is any site |
| 11:50.43 | AnduinLothar | and the change was not reverse compatible for who knows what reason |
| 11:50.52 | cladhaire | which is why we should all be familiar with the upcoming changes thread |
| 11:51.06 | cladhaire | it was not reverse compatible because it was a major version change, and it wasn't necessary |
| 11:51.19 | cladhaire | much like many of the other breaking changes that were made ,to force people to update their code to work correctly with the new system |
| 11:51.20 | cladhaire | O.o |
| 11:51.27 | AnduinLothar | breakign reverse compatibility just because is silly. |
| 11:51.39 | cladhaire | >< |
| 11:51.46 | cladhaire | except.. they added a lot of functionality to that system |
| 11:51.48 | cladhaire | people HAD to update their code |
| 11:52.07 | cladhaire | so jumping through hoops to make stuff backwards compatible when there's a good reason not to.. doesn't make much sense |
| 11:52.16 | AnduinLothar | what new functionality? there's only castable or not castable for UnitBuff... |
| 11:52.26 | cladhaire | you know as well as I do that the UI team doesn't just break compatibility recklessly |
| 11:52.28 | cladhaire | well, if you would READ |
| 11:52.35 | cladhaire | the buff system was completely revamped |
| 11:52.41 | cladhaire | everything is an aura now, and comes through UnitAura |
| 11:52.44 | cladhaire | which got quite a bit of functionalithy |
| 11:53.00 | cladhaire | this change was to bring the ALIASES of UnitBuff/UnitDebuff in line with that change |
| 11:53.09 | cladhaire | and, it was announced.. a long time ago. |
| 11:53.34 | AnduinLothar | that's fine, but if UnitBuff is an alias then why did they change how it worked... |
| 11:53.49 | cladhaire | BECAUSE THE UNDERLYING IMPLEMENTATION CHANGED |
| 11:54.04 | cladhaire | because it uses UnitAura now, which does not have a "castable" argument.. but instead has a series of filters |
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| 11:54.26 | cladhaire | They revamped the entire system, not just the API |
| 11:55.17 | AnduinLothar | right, so now UnitBuff passes "RAID" or "HELPFUL", a boolean using non-booleans sweet. |
| 11:55.35 | AnduinLothar | and nil does the same thing as HELPFUL |
| 11:55.39 | cladhaire | what boolean are you talking about? |
| 11:55.44 | cladhaire | Karl, I'm sorry but this is all documented |
| 11:55.47 | cladhaire | nothing silly is happening here |
| 11:55.53 | AnduinLothar | in fact everything does the same thing as ~= "RAID" |
| 11:56.03 | AnduinLothar | it's dumb |
| 11:56.12 | cladhaire | and I'm not going to argue with you about whether or not the change made sense.. considering we were notified of it oh, four months ago? |
| 11:56.30 | AnduinLothar | notified of a dumb change doesn't make it not dumb |
| 11:56.35 | cladhaire | I didn't mean to argue with you in the first place, I was just trying to answer your question since its clear that you hadn't read the upcoming changes thread |
| 11:56.40 | cladhaire | well, you had five months to make your objection known |
| 11:56.48 | cladhaire | waiting until its pushed to the live servers is your problem |
| 11:57.05 | AnduinLothar | if i were objecting i wouldn't report it to you anyway |
| 11:57.09 | AnduinLothar | chill |
| 11:57.14 | cladhaire | I'm not upset, thanks. |
| 11:57.25 | AnduinLothar | all caps is not upset? |
| 11:57.43 | cladhaire | it was for clarity, since you seemed to miss that point the first few times I said it. |
| 11:57.56 | cladhaire | forgive me, but I find the need to restate things when information I am providing is being ignored |
| 11:58.24 | AnduinLothar | it was irrelevant to my statement |
| 11:58.38 | cladhaire | If you insist |
| 11:59.06 | haste | in all honestly, they could have made it backwards compat., but it would create some irregular behaviour we don't have anywhere else in the UI |
| 11:59.21 | AnduinLothar | how is that |
| 11:59.43 | AnduinLothar | a boolean not acting liek a boolean is regular? |
| 11:59.48 | cladhaire | haste: indeed they could have, but it woudl have been inconsistent. |
| 11:59.53 | haste | AnduinLothar: your missing it now |
| 11:59.58 | cladhaire | AnduinLothar: Can you be clearer about what you mean with "a boolean not acting like a boolean"? |
| 12:00.03 | cladhaire | there are no more boolean arguments to either function |
| 12:00.08 | haste | AnduinLothar: the function would have two behaviours, one for string and one for boolean |
| 12:00.09 | cladhaire | so now we're confused.. |
| 12:00.22 | abyx | is there a function to get the name of the continent the player is currently on? |
| 12:00.32 | AnduinLothar | there are 2 options for UnitBuff and 2 options for UnitDebuff |
| 12:00.33 | haste | AnduinLothar: the old function could take a function as a third argument and behave correctly afaik :p |
| 12:00.42 | AnduinLothar | "RAID" and not "RAID" |
| 12:00.55 | haste | you have more than that |
| 12:01.06 | cladhaire | that's not true.. they accept any combination of the filters so long as it doesn't conflict with the "HELPFUL" or "HARMFUL" already included. |
| 12:06.54 | cladhaire | So for my panel addon, "CrownMolding" a good name? |
| 12:07.10 | AnduinLothar | what's it do |
| 12:15.37 | mikma | anduinlothar: it's TitanPanel, but it doesn't have any Titan in it, only Broker! |
| 12:16.16 | AnduinLothar | oh. said panel and i thought ui options panel |
| 12:16.33 | mikma | <1304> <@cladhaire> http://images.gammatester.com/pics/8036dd74bd4158aa02782c254cba2ab0.png |
| 12:16.54 | AnduinLothar | i saw that, but i thought it was fubar lol |
| 12:17.07 | mikma | cladhaire: lolPanel |
| 12:18.17 | AnduinLothar | also: is there an option to not have them all compated liek that? |
| 12:18.35 | AnduinLothar | padding or something |
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| 12:19.45 | mikma | no! cladhaire likes it toight. toight like a toiger. |
| 12:19.59 | AnduinLothar | thats why i said option.. |
| 12:22.07 | mikma | i hope he'll option you good! |
| 12:23.05 | AnduinLothar | glad to know i'm not the only one going crazy |
| 12:23.22 | mikma | imho, being crazy only helps |
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| 12:27.20 | AnduinLothar | night |
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| 12:48.17 | Shirik|zZz | Mac comes with tar by default, right? |
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| 13:08.34 | Nechckn | It has compressed support built in, Shirik |
| 13:08.56 | Nechckn | like Win does finally... |
| 13:09.14 | nevcairiel | except win only does zip, not tar =P |
| 13:09.16 | Nechckn | so, I believe it should |
| 13:09.27 | Nechckn | nevcairiel right, right |
| 13:09.34 | Nechckn | but that's better than before |
| 13:09.38 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 13:09.45 | Nechckn | eventhough I like 7zip |
| 13:09.50 | nevcairiel | hey i downloaded this unzip tool, but it came in a zip |
| 13:09.52 | nevcairiel | HALP! |
| 13:09.59 | Nechckn | lol |
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| 13:23.22 | Fisker- | what are you going to do? |
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| 13:25.42 | Fisker- | that's what i thought |
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| 13:40.23 | Rageon | guys you've ever experienced the problem when the addons button dissapears even tough you ahve addosn in your itnerface\addons folder? |
| 13:40.35 | Rageon | i hear it's somethign to do with addosn with to many subfolders? any trouth to that? |
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| 14:01.06 | Wobin | well |
| 14:01.12 | Wobin | hats off to Blizz for the Wrathgate chain |
| 14:01.30 | Wobin | That's the first time I've been truly impressed by the game |
| 14:01.54 | Wobin | I can't believe people skip it, just to get to 80 |
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| 15:01.12 | p3lim | anyone know if theres a mail box in Felwood? |
| 15:01.14 | p3lim | (alliance) |
| 15:05.32 | alestane | I don't believe there is...neither of the two locations is an inn. But on second thought, there may be one at Talonbranch Glade, the north flight path. |
| 15:06.00 | Mikk | i'd give it a 50/50 chance of there being one up there |
| 15:09.56 | alestane | I have a rather vague memory of one up there. |
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| 16:54.36 | Shirik | holy shit |
| 16:54.40 | Shirik | my staff flaps its wings |
| 16:54.56 | Shirik | I didn't notice this when I got it >< |
| 16:55.10 | zenzelezz | if that doesn't impress the ladies, I don't know what will |
| 16:55.35 | |pez| | .... |
| 16:58.14 | |Jelly| | Shirik! <3 |
| 16:58.43 | |Jelly| | That is a sexy staff. |
| 16:59.05 | |Jelly| | I've done full clear Naxx10 and half clear Naxx25 and one piece of tanking gear has dropped. :( |
| 17:00.10 | zenzelezz | it comes and goes |Jelly|. Last Naxx25 I picked up four pieces, and that wasn't all that dropped |
| 17:00.42 | |Jelly| | Patchwerk 25man is rough. :( |
| 17:00.52 | |pez| | I can't seem to get anything I want for my hunter in instances XD |
| 17:01.08 | Shirik | Patchwerk is pretty easy :) |
| 17:01.27 | nevcairiel | whole raid content is pretty easy |
| 17:01.32 | Shirik | Actually |Jelly|, I have a question |
| 17:01.36 | Shirik | I'm thinking about respeccing slightly |
| 17:01.40 | |Jelly| | Hitting for 27k isn't fun. |
| 17:01.45 | |Jelly| | Or rather, getting hit for |
| 17:01.47 | Shirik | Let me show you what I have and what I want to get |
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| 17:02.20 | nevcairiel | patchwerk does say that there is no more play, and no play = no fun =P |
| 17:02.51 | |Jelly| | I just ... wow. |
| 17:04.04 | |Jelly| | Shirik, shoot. |
| 17:04.57 | Shirik | This is what I currently have http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bAh0zhhZfbxcf0aihVcst |
| 17:05.01 | Shirik | I want to pick up Serendipity, though |
| 17:06.01 | Shirik | This is what I'm thinking about http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bAc0zhhZfbxcf0aihVhst |
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| 17:06.55 | nevcairiel | move mental agility to serendipity, done =P |
| 17:07.11 | |Jelly| | I agree |
| 17:07.15 | Shirik | I really wish I could fit 5/5 in mental agility |
| 17:07.41 | nevcairiel | its only instant casts, i mean whats that? |
| 17:07.44 | nevcairiel | renew, shield? |
| 17:07.45 | nevcairiel | pom |
| 17:07.46 | Shirik | coh |
| 17:07.52 | nevcairiel | which gets a cooldown soon |
| 17:07.53 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 17:07.57 | Shirik | yeah f that |
| 17:08.08 | Shirik | I'm sick of people saying "You shouldn't do that, it won't work soon" |
| 17:08.13 | Shirik | ... it works now, and that's all I care about |
| 17:08.20 | Shirik | I'll care about what happens when it happens |
| 17:08.23 | |Jelly| | They've been talking about a CD for CoH forever. I'll believe it when I see it actually happen. |
| 17:08.34 | |Jelly| | ...and if WG doesn't get a CD, that'll be extreme bullshit. |
| 17:08.59 | |Jelly| | Yes. I'm one of /those/ people |
| 17:09.01 | nevcairiel | Current WG with a CD would be so inferiour to CoH |
| 17:09.03 | fauxpas``` | hello haste, i really don't wanna bother you, but the guys in #wowace made me do so (:P) .. i hardly know any lua/wow api stuff so it may be difficult to help me, but i'd really like to know how i get ouf_ammo to show instant mana updates like e.g. ouf_dlx does .. any idea where i should start looking? :) |
| 17:09.09 | nevcairiel | they need to buff it if they want to add a CD to it |
| 17:09.36 | nevcairiel | Its only useful because you can spam it on the whole raid |
| 17:09.47 | |Jelly| | Hmm |
| 17:09.52 | |Jelly| | Sounds a lot like CoH |
| 17:10.19 | haste | fauxpas```: take a look in oUF/elements/power.lua it has a short description about what options the element can take |
| 17:11.23 | Shirik | WG? |
| 17:11.31 | |Jelly| | Wild Growth |
| 17:11.36 | Shirik | o |
| 17:11.47 | Shirik | wild growth is op |
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| 17:12.09 | Shirik | see? I can be a paladin too |
| 17:12.15 | Shirik | coh is op, wild growth is op, buff beacon of light |
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| 17:13.20 | fauxpas``` | wow, that was easy. thanks haste :) |
| 17:14.35 | fauxpas``` | if only i knew why yata disappeared upon reloading my ui ... i really miss numen :( |
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| 17:18.42 | Shirik | so you really think I should keep imp holy conc and drop mental agility, |Jelly|? |
| 17:19.10 | |Jelly| | I dunno. I mean, Imp is kinda :| |
| 17:20.21 | Industrial | Xinhuan: thanks for EasySerum. Now I can do the dailies. |
| 17:20.27 | Industrial | cba before |
| 17:20.27 | Industrial | ;D |
| 17:20.54 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 17:21.34 | Xinhuan | remember to rate up :p |
| 17:22.04 | Shirik | |Jelly|, I really don't care about the haste. The improved 15% is kinda nice though |
| 17:22.32 | |Jelly| | Well, do you CoH a lot? Cause I mean 15% for CoH is kind of a waste but if you're single targetting, it's more beneficial IMO. |
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| 17:25.11 | Shirik | I guess I use it less than I thought, http://wowwebstats.com/h43b3g6wwcu1c?a=x112162 |
| 17:26.22 | Shirik | Maybe it was just that wing, http://wowwebstats.com/r13cqp3tlatak?a=x112162 |
| 17:28.25 | Fisker- | wat palas |
| 17:28.27 | Fisker- | :3 |
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| 17:53.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: DNS is easy to back up |
| 18:02.40 | ScytheBlade1 | If that's what you were talking about |
| 18:03.17 | Tekkub | man, you know it didn't matter with ore... but the "5 of the same herb" thing blows big fat tanuki balls with milling |
| 18:03.30 | Tekkub | I have *two* herb bags in my bag, just to hold misc bits |
| 18:08.24 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: No |
| 18:08.35 | Shirik | I mean all my data |
| 18:08.38 | Shirik | databases, etc. |
| 18:08.48 | Shirik | But in particular, not just back it up, but automatically get it to another box |
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| 18:13.30 | Tem | ugh |
| 18:13.45 | Tem | the first 20 seconds after I arive in a new area are unbearable |
| 18:14.03 | Tem | I get horrible fps |
| 18:14.24 | Tem | and flights are really just a slideshow of the flight |
| 18:14.28 | Tem | one picture every 15 seconds |
| 18:15.15 | Anaral | Tem, lowering the scale to see far off made my issues much more barable. |
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| 18:19.10 | Tem | I think part of my problem is actually harddrive fragmentation |
| 18:19.48 | Tem | when I get to a new area and it's got to read geometry off the disk it gets into a seekfest of pain and misery |
| 18:20.05 | Tem | I haven't defragged in like a year |
| 18:20.28 | Tem | so a heavily used portion of the drive (like, say, my wow folder) is probably in pretty bad shape |
| 18:23.33 | Kaso | wouldnt it be a wise idea to defrag your hard drive? |
| 18:26.05 | mikma | tem: nvidia? |
| 18:26.21 | Tem | Kaso, if I weren't so damn lazy, it would |
| 18:26.30 | Tem | mikma, yeah an oldish nvidia card |
| 18:26.52 | mikma | tem: oh. i just grabbed nvidia omega's for my gf4ti |
| 18:29.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: ah, that's a bit more complicated, as I'm guessing all of your offsite stuff has a dynamic IP |
| 18:29.45 | Shirik | nope |
| 18:29.50 | Shirik | but I don't actually have access to the box anyway |
| 18:31.38 | Tem | so, how do you get to sholazar basin? |
| 18:31.47 | Tem | I've only ever been there after 77 |
| 18:32.26 | zenzelezz | guy in Dalaran offers to send you there IIRC |
| 18:32.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Walk from the Tundra, or the quest from Dalaran at 76 |
| 18:32.45 | mikma | tem: the dude in krasus landing has a quest |
| 18:32.52 | Tem | hum |
| 18:33.00 | mikma | tem: you talk to him, and he sends you there with some cool event :D |
| 18:33.01 | Tem | so it's a level 77ish place? |
| 18:33.04 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 18:33.08 | Tem | d'oh |
| 18:33.10 | ScytheBlade1 | 76-77-78 |
| 18:33.20 | ScytheBlade1 | You're expected to get flying mid way through there |
| 18:33.26 | ScytheBlade1 | You want the hills or Zul'Drak |
| 18:33.32 | Tem | yeah, I'll do ZD |
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| 18:33.45 | Tem | I'm a little fuzzy on 74-78 |
| 18:33.53 | Tem | since in beta, I did that entire section in instances |
| 18:34.09 | Tem | that was when the world server was so lagged that questing was impossible |
| 18:34.11 | ScytheBlade1 | dragonblight --> grizzly hills --> zul'drak --> basin --> storm peaks --> icecrown |
| 18:34.17 | Tem | I dislike the hills |
| 18:34.22 | Shirik | whee |
| 18:34.25 | Shirik | 880 spirit unbuffed |
| 18:34.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Your loss, it's incrediblr |
| 18:34.29 | mikma | tekkub: beat tem with a stick |
| 18:34.32 | ScytheBlade1 | s/le/le/ |
| 18:34.36 | ScytheBlade1 | sigh |
| 18:34.41 | mikma | le sigh |
| 18:34.41 | ScytheBlade1 | *incredible |
| 18:34.47 | Tem | everything was so spread out |
| 18:34.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Then you're doing it wrong |
| 18:34.58 | Tem | Go eat some poo |
| 18:35.01 | mikma | tem: www.wtbblue.com |
| 18:35.06 | Tem | now go poo in this shed |
| 18:35.08 | ScytheBlade1 | DOIN' IT WRONG |
| 18:35.12 | Tem | did you get the key yet? |
| 18:35.13 | Tem | no? |
| 18:35.15 | Tem | go poo some more |
| 18:35.20 | ScytheBlade1 | the key? |
| 18:35.25 | Tem | Hey! Let's dig through some poo! |
| 18:35.35 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:35.43 | Tem | The only thing I enjoyed in that place was killing bambi |
| 18:35.44 | mikma | tem ain't a poopfan |
| 18:35.46 | mikma | ~poop |
| 18:35.47 | purl | for me to poop on! |
| 18:36.42 | Tem | Deathvader: Level 69 Night Elf Hunter - Dragonblight |
| 18:37.02 | Tem | General Deathvader: were do i get quests? |
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| 18:37.42 | Tem | ScytheBlade1, well, if I was doing it so wrong, where should I start? |
| 18:37.55 | Tem | I started at westfall brigade last time |
| 18:38.00 | Tem | and within minutes I wanted to stab someone |
| 18:38.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Ow |
| 18:38.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, that's wrong |
| 18:38.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Start at the Amberpine Lodge |
| 18:38.18 | Tem | in general, I trust you |
| 18:38.23 | Tem | so I'll give the zone another shot |
| 18:38.55 | Tem | Lodge? |
| 18:38.59 | Tem | oh nevermind |
| 18:39.01 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah |
| 18:39.02 | Tem | I misread you |
| 18:39.07 | Tem | I thought you said Amberping Ledge |
| 18:39.08 | ScytheBlade1 | 31,57 |
| 18:39.12 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:39.45 | Tem | yeah, I can see it on the map |
| 18:39.59 | Tem | just being shallow and pedantic |
| 18:40.06 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:40.19 | Tem | name that quote? |
| 18:40.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Off the top of my head, I can't |
| 18:40.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Busy picking Lichbloom, that goes for >100g/stack |
| 18:41.32 | Tem | nice |
| 18:41.44 | |pez| | Wonder how much a stack of Cobalt Ore goes for on my server. |
| 18:42.10 | |pez| | Should probably scan the AH more often. |
| 18:42.27 | Tem | I've gotten in the habit of twice a day scans |
| 18:42.47 | Tem | blizzard probably hates me for it, but I have a pretty good idea what everything costs now |
| 18:45.21 | Tem | Tekkub, is there a tourguide for grizzly hills? |
| 18:45.25 | Tem | I don't think I feel like thinking |
| 18:45.40 | Tem | I just want level 75 so I can wear my new duds |
| 18:45.45 | Tekkub | you'll notice I'm workin on dragonblight |
| 18:45.50 | Tekkub | so what do you think? |
| 18:46.06 | alcaras | Any suggestions on a mod that blocks 'XX passed on' and 'YY passed on' without disabling Detailed Loot Information? That way mods like teksLoot will still be able to see who rolled on what and display it in their interface, but without me being spammed to tears... |
| 18:46.54 | Tekkub | alcaras, GreedBeacon :P |
| 18:47.01 | haste | can any US player link me the torrent download for the wotlk client? |
| 18:48.17 | alcaras | tekkub: thank you :) |
| 18:48.40 | alcaras | Tekkub: I knew there was a mod that did it, but couldn't remember the name :) |
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| 18:59.40 | zenzelezz | anyone EU having trouble with WoW at the moment? |
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| 19:04.01 | sacarasc | not me |
| 19:05.05 | zenzelezz | I'm having trouble loading the forums at the moment, and really huge latency fluctuations in-game, and some DCs... but no other part of my net is affected as far as I can tell; disabled crap and stopped downloads :-| |
| 19:08.10 | zenzelezz | then again, my ISP has had some interesting issues before, wouldn't be surprised if it is some issue that is only apparent with WoW right now |
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| 19:40.04 | Shirik | Oh this is awesome |
| 19:40.46 | Shirik | [Terrinoth] has earned the achievement [Make Love not Warcraft]! [G] [Terrinoth] Got it! I can finally stop camping this guy! [G] [Kimina] You were camping some guy just to get that achievement? [G] [Terrinoth] Yeah I had to kill him like 6 times |
| 19:41.11 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 19:41.46 | Shirik | ha |
| 19:41.49 | Shirik | he had to make a macro for it |
| 19:41.59 | Tem | this quest to blow up the horde boat is gay as hell |
| 19:42.27 | ScytheBlade1 | That's a PvP daily |
| 19:42.31 | ScytheBlade1 | You can ignore it entirely |
| 19:43.50 | Tem | I can't ignore it |
| 19:43.54 | Tem | I accepted it |
| 19:43.59 | Tem | so I'm going to do it |
| 19:44.05 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:44.20 | Coren{de} | yay, new wine version... this (and maybe some sacrificed chickens) might stop Dalaran from crashing! anyone got some spare chickens? |
| 19:44.44 | Tem | Go figure |
| 19:44.52 | Tem | it was easier with keyboard turning than mouse turning |
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| 19:47.09 | ScytheBlade1 | All of those quests at that lake are PvP dailies |
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| 19:49.20 | Tem | I know |
| 19:49.25 | Tem | but they give experience |
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| 19:49.34 | Tem | and some kind of currency that I don't know where to spend |
| 19:49.37 | Tem | AND gold |
| 19:50.07 | Tem | so I'd say they were definitely not a waste of time |
| 19:50.36 | Tekkub | what exactly is involved in those |
| 19:51.04 | Tekkub | is it like "go get x HKs" or is it "go do this thing, oh and you'll get flagged |
| 19:51.38 | sacarasc | both, iirc |
| 19:56.14 | Tem | it's a combination |
| 19:56.21 | Tem | go do this and you'll be flagged |
| 19:56.29 | Tem | go kill X horde units (npcs or players) |
| 20:02.21 | Shirik | f that don't kill horde units |
| 20:02.23 | Shirik | kill alliance units |
| 20:02.32 | cncfanatics | anyone using an hp pavillion laptop that knows how to get the mic working on linux ? (the integrated one) |
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| 20:19.16 | Fisker- | Tem at the keep |
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| 20:27.41 | SNiLD | any idea where i could get a list of the ingame sounds playable through lua? |
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| 20:28.54 | Iriel | SNiLD: have you tried the wiki (wowwiki.com) ? |
| 20:30.05 | SNiLD | Iriel: no, just google :S |
| 20:30.23 | SNiLD | Iriel: but seems i have the same problem, can't find good enough search word |
| 20:31.29 | Kaso | http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=wowwiki+play+sound |
| 20:33.18 | ScytheBlade1 | whoo |
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| 20:33.36 | ScytheBlade1 | mod_wombat (soon to be named mod_lua) will be in the next major apache release |
| 20:35.00 | Kaso | So that means we should expect to see it on production servers in 5 years? |
| 20:35.33 | SNiLD | Kaso: omg thanks a million! |
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| 20:54.21 | sudvabalis | help me surprise my girlfreind, watch this video on youtube, thanx! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHsitCVMbgE |
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| 21:00.00 | |pez| | ... |
| 21:00.17 | Tem | ... |
| 21:00.30 | Tem | I'm gonna go downvote his video |
| 21:00.34 | Tem | because he pissed me off |
| 21:00.41 | Kaso | what is the video? |
| 21:00.46 | Kaso | i didnt want to click on it |
| 21:00.56 | Tem | no idea |
| 21:01.07 | Tem | I just visited the page long enough to give it a low rating |
| 21:01.30 | Kaso | lol |
| 21:08.30 | Tem | well this is weird |
| 21:08.42 | Tem | my dad supposedly has good news for me |
| 21:08.47 | Tem | but he wouldn't tell me over the phone |
| 21:11.18 | Thunder_Child | so...he wants to hit you in person? |
| 21:12.00 | Thunder_Child | and with all of the admins idling here you think one could have poped out the banhammer |
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| 21:27.35 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: |
| 21:27.56 | Shirik | oh sorry |
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| 21:28.34 | Shirik | bleh |
| 21:28.38 | Shirik | mirc does not handle /whowas very well |
| 21:28.58 | Thunder_Child | never let it be said that i didnt let you join in on the fun Shirik |
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| 21:34.30 | Thunder_Child | hmm...i wonder if horseradish goes bad |
| 21:34.51 | Iriel | Given enough time, pretty much everything goes bad |
| 21:35.09 | Thunder_Child | except honey |
| 21:36.33 | Iriel | that would depend how long you give it and how it's stored |
| 21:37.30 | Thunder_Child | they found jars of it in the pyramid's so it beats out anything else |
| 21:42.38 | linear` | what is 'arg' suppose to be, is that a global for something |
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| 21:59.40 | Coren{de} | 'arg', that's a global... curse when you do random pug BGs and always have to stand up against made-up groups :> |
| 22:09.33 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 22:09.38 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13287571198&sid=1 <-- the GM response is amazong |
| 22:10.09 | ScytheBlade1 | *amazing |
| 22:10.29 | Thunder_Child | amazong was so much better |
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| 22:19.07 | zenzelezz | found a picture of Lopeppeppy's cat: http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/12/07/funny-pictures-saiz-iz-5-o-clock-somewherez/ |
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| 22:26.20 | Scytal | hey guys |
| 22:28.07 | Scytal | excuse me guys, anyone around? |
| 22:28.29 | cog|away | ~asktoask |
| 22:28.30 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 22:28.54 | Scytal | ¬_¬ thanks |
| 22:29.43 | Scytal | ok well, I've been working on UI graphics for sometime, directly on photoshop. But then I wondered if it was better to design the graphics (or skin) in another software before |
| 22:30.21 | cog|away | use what's easiest. if it can't save in .tga, you can always use a different program to convert it. |
| 22:30.28 | zenzelezz | if you're talking about textures, use whatever program you're comfortable with |
| 22:30.48 | Scytal | was more talking about shapes |
| 22:31.07 | Scytal | for exemple, the reborn UI |
| 22:31.17 | Scytal | it has many curves, complex little forms too |
| 22:31.30 | cog|away | ah you need a drawing program |
| 22:31.33 | Scytal | doing it in photoshop isnt really easy |
| 22:31.34 | cog|away | rather than a paint program |
| 22:31.37 | Scytal | yeah |
| 22:31.41 | cog|away | e.g. illustrator, inkscape |
| 22:31.45 | cog|away | flash even |
| 22:31.53 | Scytal | yeah, flash is pretty intuitive |
| 22:32.01 | Shirik | Illustrator is really nice, that's what the guys at crayola I worked with use |
| 22:32.04 | zenzelezz | basically any vector-capable editor? |
| 22:32.05 | Scytal | and can modify curves easily with it |
| 22:32.21 | cog|away | inkscape is getting pretty good and is free |
| 22:32.32 | Scytal | works on mac? |
| 22:32.40 | zenzelezz | think so |
| 22:32.44 | cog|away | it's open source and cross platform :) |
| 22:32.53 | cog|away | uses gtk iirc |
| 22:33.03 | Scytal | wonderful |
| 22:33.05 | zenzelezz | http://www.inkscape.org/download/?lang=en |
| 22:33.10 | Scytal | thanks |
| 22:33.15 | zenzelezz | lists Mac OS X builds for 10.3-10.5 |
| 22:34.16 | Scytal | your forums are a gold mine revision3 videos are great |
| 22:34.31 | Scytal | woops, forgot to put a dot in that sentence -_- |
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| 22:53.47 | Shirik | rofl |
| 22:53.48 | Shirik | I have this item |
| 22:53.56 | Shirik | And whenever I link it, it shows up with a ton of spaces in its name |
| 22:54.11 | Shirik | [Librarian's Paper Cutter ] |
| 22:54.13 | zenzelezz | there are a few such WotLK items |
| 22:54.16 | Shirik | well, with multiple spaces |
| 22:54.21 | Shirik | but my client is being too intelligent |
| 22:54.21 | zenzelezz | that one being the most common one |
| 22:56.19 | Shirik | holy shit |
| 22:56.26 | Shirik | that thing's going for 750g on my server |
| 23:00.53 | cog|away | "Dryads do it from behinder" |
| 23:01.30 | Tekkub | hrm... my weapon enchant makes it look like my gryphen is blleding from his ass as he flies |
| 23:02.34 | Scytal | hey guys I just wondered, if I create an art background to put behind my buttons, I don't know wich resolution to chose |
| 23:03.02 | Scytal | like, do I take my game resolution and create my art on only a part of it. or can I use a smaller canvas |
| 23:04.13 | Gngsk | resolution or dimension? |
| 23:04.32 | Scytal | gah, bad use of words, I meant dimensions |
| 23:04.58 | Tem | Sbo, the grizzle is growing on me |
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| 23:05.18 | Gngsk | Scytal, http://www.wowwiki.com/BLP_files |
| 23:05.19 | Iriel | Use the smallest resolution you can that looks good when scaled up to 1920 x 1200 or so |
| 23:05.28 | Scytal | k |
| 23:05.40 | Iriel | (You'll have to figure out what that means for your UI, depending on how much of the screen it might cover) |
| 23:05.58 | Scytal | I'm sure I can do that much |
| 23:06.04 | Scytal | thanks |
| 23:06.10 | Scytal | for the link |
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| 23:44.54 | Shirik | Cairenn: ping |
| 23:45.12 | Cairenn | Shirik: pong |
| 23:45.18 | Shirik | What's the last letter of the alphabet? |
| 23:45.33 | Cairenn | George |
| 23:45.37 | Shirik | er |
| 23:45.41 | Cairenn | lol |
| 23:45.41 | Cairenn | zed |
| 23:45.41 | Shirik | what? >.> |
| 23:45.46 | Shirik | so you do say zed |
| 23:45.47 | Tekkub | ø |
| 23:45.52 | Cairenn | of course |
| 23:45.55 | |pez| | å |
| 23:46.02 | Cairenn | only americans say zee |
| 23:46.06 | cbreak | Ω |
| 23:46.24 | Tekkub | I say "zeh" |
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| 23:46.29 | Tekkub | like "meh" |
| 23:47.20 | Tekkub | and according to charmap, ﻼ is the last letter |
| 23:47.33 | Tekkub | heh, and it doesn't even show up |
| 23:48.01 | cbreak | I have ѹ as last. A glyph variant. |
| 23:48.23 | Tekkub | in comic sans, the last letter is ï¬ |
| 23:48.38 | Tekkub | another doesn't wanna copy |
| 23:48.48 | Tekkub | ⪠|
| 23:48.53 | Shirik | lua> string.char(0xFFFF) |
| 23:48.53 | Tekkub | there we go! |
| 23:48.53 | lua_bot | Shirik: luabot:1: bad argument #1 to 'char' (invalid value) |
| 23:48.56 | Shirik | lua> string.char(0xFF) |
| 23:48.56 | lua_bot | Shirik: ÿ |
| 23:49.06 | Shirik | ah right, how could I not know that character |
| 23:49.16 | Shirik | lua> string.char(0xCC), string.char(0xCD) |
| 23:49.17 | lua_bot | Shirik: Ì, Í |
| 23:49.21 | Shirik | heh |
| 23:49.37 | cbreak | 2FFFF is the last entry in my unicode table |
| 23:49.48 | Tekkub | xmas char! ЮЮЮ |
| 23:50.06 | Shirik | It's strange, after you program using Visual Studio for a while you begin to recognize Ì, Í, and ÿ |
| 23:50.10 | cbreak | (UTF8: F0 AF BF BF) |
| 23:50.22 | Tekkub | you do? |
| 23:50.30 | cbreak | what do they have to do with VS? |
| 23:50.33 | Shirik | since Visual Studio injects 0xCC for uninitialized data, 0xCD as freed data, and 0xFF as uninitialized stack |
| 23:50.38 | Shirik | in debug mode |
| 23:50.46 | Shirik | they're all debug codes |
| 23:51.15 | cbreak | hmm... might even make sense. |
| 23:51.29 | Shirik | There's some other ones but they're not as common |
| 23:51.59 | Shirik | I think 0xFD is used at the end and beginning of every memory block, an extra two bytes allocated to help detect if you did a buffer over/underrun |
| 23:52.03 | Shirik | etc. |
| 23:52.24 | cbreak | wouldn't that screw up byte alignment? |
| 23:52.33 | cbreak | (well, 4 byte) |
| 23:52.47 | Shirik | well you shouldn't actually use that memory :) |
| 23:52.59 | cbreak | obviously... :) |
| 23:53.35 | Shirik | Like, if you do __declspec(align:8) then the actual block will be aligned on an 8 byte boundary, and the 0xFD blocks will be at 8n-1 and 8n+1 |
| 23:53.46 | cbreak | but you probably lose more than 2 bytes because the blocks from the Virtual Memory are likely 4kb aligned... I think I should read up on the details though :/ |
| 23:54.18 | Shirik | well this is why you don't release a program with this too :) |
| 23:54.22 | Shirik | The release version doesn't do this |
| 23:54.34 | Shirik | Especially because it never actually "frees" memory |
| 23:54.47 | Shirik | It holds on to all deallocated memory to check that you never use it again in debug mode |
| 23:55.16 | Shirik | I <3 VS's memory debugging features |
| 23:55.43 | cbreak | I bet xcode has that too... I only bet one euro cent though :) |
| 23:55.58 | Shirik | heh |
| 23:56.09 | Shirik | I wouldn't be surprised if valgrind did something similar |
| 23:56.46 | Shirik | I only know this because one time I overloaded operator new to do some memory debugging of my own (looking for memory leaks) and noticed it kept allocating very strange sizes |
| 23:57.02 | Coren{de} | I wished the COM-Interface debugging would be as great as the memory stuff :D |
| 23:58.01 | Shirik | What I've recently fallen in love with is VS's automated tests |
| 23:58.08 | Shirik | writing tests is easy as cake |
| 23:58.36 | Coren{de} | stuff like "does this pointer really belong into this apartment, or had it been necessary to marshal and someone didn't" :> |
| 23:59.09 | Shirik | COM always confused me |
| 23:59.24 | Shirik | I did some stuff with DirectShow recently and it took me quite a while to get working |
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| 23:59.42 | Coren{de} | that's DirectShow's fault, not COM's ;) |
| 23:59.53 | Shirik | isn't DirectShow based on COM? |
