| 00:01.39 | bleeter | 400's tiny |
| 00:01.45 | kd3 | oh I knowo |
| 00:01.49 | kd3 | it's only gonna get worse |
| 00:01.52 | kd3 | it's 19:00 over here |
| 00:02.06 | bleeter | I heard of an 1800 last night |
| 00:02.23 | bleeter | took that with a pinch of salt... dunno |
| 00:04.52 | Sixen | What is "World of Warcraft Beta Club Authentication Key"? |
| 00:04.56 | Sixen | The BlizzCon Beta key? |
| 00:05.30 | Sixen | On the Upgrade page: |
| 00:05.31 | Sixen | You may also use the fields above to upgrade your account to Collector's Edition or Beta Club access. Simply enter your unique World of Warcraft: Collector's Edition, Burning Crusade Collector's Edition, or World of Warcraft Beta Club Authentication Key. |
| 00:10.09 | Sixen | Apparently: "It's a perk for purchasing the Dell "WoW Edition" Laptops. Allows access to Blizz Betas" |
| 00:11.01 | NightHawkTheSane | so. here's something i don't get. |
| 00:11.30 | NightHawkTheSane | how, after 4 or 5 years, does blizzard still not seem to realize that "must tap single unique mob" quests are at all a good idea? |
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| 00:22.09 | foxlit | Why haven't you, after 4 or 5 years, found a good way to do those quests? :) |
| 00:22.22 | NightHawkTheSane | there is none. |
| 00:22.55 | NightHawkTheSane | standing there spamming a "/tar <mob>; /cast <instant>" is not "good" and isn't even foolproof |
| 00:26.21 | alestane | Those quests are only really problematical during launch. |
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| 00:27.20 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, they can be problematic any time you have more than one person of each faction needing it, but the point is.. they've shown they don't NEED to do it , so why bother? |
| 00:27.40 | foxlit | Why not? Variety. |
| 00:27.49 | foxlit | More or less every quest has issues with overpopulation |
| 00:27.49 | NightHawkTheSane | it does not, in any way, improve the gameplay experience |
| 00:28.12 | zenzelezz | OMG GUYS DONT KILL PROTO DRAKES!!! |
| 00:28.13 | NightHawkTheSane | most of them are pretty managable though. |
| 00:28.15 | foxlit | Unique mobs tell a story :) |
| 00:28.40 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: for their .5s out of every 5 minutes of life, sure. the rest of the time the story is "this quest sucks" |
| 00:29.30 | NightHawkTheSane | again, the point is, forcing you to have a tag is something they've provably been able to avoid. it makes no sense to ever use it |
| 00:29.55 | foxlit | Besides, form a group. Groups are good. |
| 00:30.02 | NightHawkTheSane | can't group cross faction |
| 00:30.10 | foxlit | Then kill the other guy |
| 00:30.20 | foxlit | "carebear servers" |
| 00:30.22 | NightHawkTheSane | can't on a pve server. |
| 00:30.35 | NightHawkTheSane | even if you could, i wouldn't. pvp is not a viable answer to that |
| 00:30.43 | cbreak | Opie's mage transport ring needs the Dalaran Portal/Teleport. |
| 00:31.38 | foxlit | That it does. |
| 00:31.44 | foxlit | And Death Knights need a utility ring |
| 00:32.35 | foxlit | And there's a bug report :/ |
| 00:32.44 | foxlit | I really should stop dreaming of cake and push out another version |
| 00:32.55 | leethal | in "for i=1,40 do" - will lua automatically make the 'i' local? |
| 00:33.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes |
| 00:33.55 | Arrowmaster | ScytheBlade1: its item-info.xml that has the sellvalue and not item-tooltip.xml =( |
| 00:34.03 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 00:34.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Luckily that too is easy |
| 00:34.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Just long |
| 00:34.27 | cbreak | leethal: it even hides all other i |
| 00:34.49 | cbreak | so if you have an i, local or not, it won't be affected |
| 00:35.04 | leethal | I see, thanks |
| 00:35.13 | Arrowmaster | 35k-45k actually seems to be where the wrath stuff is |
| 00:35.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Sure you don't want anything else? |
| 00:35.42 | foxlit | a pony? |
| 00:37.02 | Arrowmaster | could you extract the sellvalue from the xml and put it into a tsv with itemid as first column, sellvalue in copper as the second column, and item name as the third column? |
| 00:37.09 | ScytheBlade1 | no =] |
| 00:37.13 | Arrowmaster | ok |
| 00:38.52 | foxlit | "why not?" "lazy" |
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| 00:47.43 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 00:48.02 | AbsoRayne | guh |
| 00:48.05 | AbsoRayne | almost 65 now |
| 00:48.11 | AbsoRayne | er |
| 00:48.12 | AbsoRayne | 75 |
| 00:49.26 | leethal | meh.. http://wowuidev.pastey.net/101861 |
| 00:49.34 | leethal | occurs on UNIT_BUFF (if the unit == 'player') |
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| 00:54.17 | Wobin | awaaagghh |
| 00:54.20 | Wobin | Cairenn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idRc_KkInds |
| 00:54.55 | Cairenn | awwwwwwww |
| 00:55.16 | Wobin | zomg widdle paws |
| 00:55.29 | Cairenn | so CUTE! |
| 00:56.55 | foxlit | The 30 point gap in BC first aid hurts |
| 00:57.13 | foxlit | (netherweave bandages require 330 skill to learn) |
| 00:57.21 | kd3 | ooh the shuttle's launching |
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| 01:01.55 | Sixen | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:01.59 | Sixen | Is there anything wrong with that? |
| 01:02.21 | foxlit | Does it work? |
| 01:02.24 | Sixen | The item link pops up, but it gets stuck at "Retrieving Item Information" |
| 01:02.32 | bleeter | Wobin: barthilas has it's server first 80 |
| 01:02.47 | Wobin | hurrah? |
| 01:03.20 | bleeter | not me, no :P |
| 01:03.50 | |pez| | Sweet, gathering proffs doesn't have any level requirements anymore. |
| 01:05.28 | bleeter | hah, mate of mine just bought the big mammoth. 'tis as cool as I expected :) |
| 01:05.42 | |pez| | :D |
| 01:05.56 | |pez| | the traveler one, or one of those others? |
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| 01:08.52 | bleeter | the 20k gold one |
| 01:09.17 | bleeter | 'pocket change' is what my friend calls it =)) |
| 01:09.42 | cbreak | on my server we had a level 80 about 9 hours ago |
| 01:09.48 | Syzgyn | goddamn |
| 01:10.00 | cbreak | and I just dinged 72 a bit more than 2 hours ago :( |
| 01:10.10 | Syzgyn | I dont think we have any 80's, but we have a 78 I think |
| 01:10.12 | cbreak | ah well, at least I enjoyed those 2 levels :) |
| 01:10.16 | Syzgyn | I'm almost 76 :P |
| 01:10.28 | cbreak | addict! |
| 01:12.38 | Wobin | hehe http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/thewickerman89/CTRLALTDEL-1.jpg |
| 01:12.47 | Wobin | . o O ("heeheebitchking") |
| 01:14.18 | Wobin | also, whee =P http://www.bigredkitty.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/brk_rhino_blue1.jpg |
| 01:16.18 | Cairenn | lol |
| 01:16.21 | Cairenn | bitchking |
| 01:17.03 | NightHawkTheSane | if only tim buckley weren't such a tool |
| 01:21.29 | Wobin | s'true |
| 01:21.36 | Wobin | he has amusing one offs |
| 01:21.40 | Wobin | now |
| 01:21.54 | Wobin | The last thing I want to do is read c-a-d for the story arcs |
| 01:22.30 | NightHawkTheSane | s/for the story arcs// |
| 01:23.57 | Wobin | aw man |
| 01:24.01 | Wobin | Proudmoore has a queue |
| 01:24.18 | Wobin | I never thought I'd have to get into the habit of logging on first before doing other stuff |
| 01:24.20 | NightHawkTheSane | your mom has a queue |
| 01:24.25 | Wobin | And I don't want to switch to AD |
| 01:24.29 | Wobin | cause that'll be even worse |
| 01:24.39 | Wobin | NightHawkTheSane: Well, my mom's -always- been popular |
| 01:24.48 | NightHawkTheSane | indeed. |
| 01:24.50 | Wobin | I attribute it to her winning personality |
| 01:25.09 | Wobin | Or is that "I personally it to her winning attributes"? |
| 01:25.28 | Wobin | (estimated time... 20min) |
| 01:25.32 | Wobin | =( |
| 01:25.44 | NightHawkTheSane | 20m? feh, come back when it's 60+ :p |
| 01:25.52 | Wobin | I will in an hour =P |
| 01:26.01 | Wobin | (like your mom?) |
| 01:26.29 | NightHawkTheSane | probably, your mom, at least, is faster. :) |
| 01:26.36 | Wobin | much more efficient |
| 01:26.43 | Wobin | oh look, it's going -up- |
| 01:26.47 | Wobin | unlike your mom =) |
| 01:27.29 | Wobin | This is like microsoft time |
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| 01:30.47 | leethal | is there a list of the available forts somewhere? |
| 01:30.56 | leethal | fonts, even |
| 01:32.02 | Wobin | hehe http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2008/11/06/scrabble-enthusiasts-take-love-of-board-game-to-extreme-lengths-115875-20874258/ |
| 01:32.43 | NightHawkTheSane | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_forts |
| 01:36.05 | cbreak | leethal: did you consider using google? :) |
| 01:36.14 | leethal | yep, didn't find anything |
| 01:36.23 | cbreak | adobe also sells fonts |
| 01:36.31 | cbreak | but they are pricy, even though of very high quality |
| 01:36.35 | leethal | was thinking the in-game fonts |
| 01:36.40 | leethal | thinking of* |
| 01:37.14 | NightHawkTheSane | have you, say, looked in the framexml? |
| 01:37.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Arrowmaster: almost done |
| 01:37.34 | leethal | NightHawkTheSane: will do! |
| 01:37.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Arrowmaster: few thousand more and that's it |
| 01:37.42 | leethal | it's not like I have a clue where to look for these things, sorry =/ |
| 01:38.20 | cbreak | got the UI extraction thingie? |
| 01:38.34 | leethal | yeah I have all those source file thingies available |
| 01:38.37 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm. BT done, ~halfway through HF. Level 73.4. Dragonblight or finish off HF. |
| 01:38.44 | NightHawkTheSane | ~framexml |
| 01:38.44 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/ |
| 01:38.45 | NightHawkTheSane | ~wowcompares |
| 01:38.46 | purl | hmm... wowcompares is http://wowcompares.com |
| 01:39.05 | NightHawkTheSane | bookmark those. |
| 01:41.28 | NightHawkTheSane | oh man, this is awesome.. |
| 01:41.30 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article5147422.ece |
| 01:41.41 | cbreak | hmm... the fonts are not extracted as part of UI art |
| 01:41.56 | NightHawkTheSane | Mr Sarkozy thought he had misheard. âHang him?â â he asked. âWhy not?â Mr Putin replied. âThe Americans hanged Saddam Hussein.â Mr Sarkozy, using the familiar tu, tried to reason with him: âYes but do you want to end up like [President] Bush?â Mr Putin was briefly lost for words, then said: âAh â you have scored a point there.â |
| 01:42.27 | Wobin | hehe |
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| 01:42.28 | bleeter | NightHawkTheSane: how the hell did you manage to rename my putty window? |
| 01:42.36 | cbreak | fonts.xml lists "Fonts\\FRIZQT__.TTF" |
| 01:42.39 | NightHawkTheSane | bleeter: i hax. |
| 01:42.42 | Corrodias | never trust Russia |
| 01:42.44 | Wobin | Truly, this is the way to control all future world leaders |
| 01:42.45 | Corrodias | end of story, end of plan |
| 01:42.53 | Wobin | "You'll look like Bush if you do that..." |
| 01:43.17 | Wobin | In Brussels in 2002 he threatened a French journalist with circumcision â remarks that the news conference interpreter failed to translate. âI will recommend that they carry out the operation in such a way that nothing grows back,â he added. |
| 01:43.17 | bleeter | nhts: I was 'wtf a window called "Mr Putin"??' hah |
| 01:43.27 | Wobin | You have to admit, he has a certain way with words =) |
| 01:43.31 | NightHawkTheSane | bleeter: interesting. |
| 01:43.57 | Wobin | ?â DoodooheadBleeter |
| 01:44.13 | bleeter | Wobin: seems to be it |
| 01:44.18 | Wobin | hehe |
| 01:44.21 | cbreak | there are also other fonts mentioned, like Fonts\MORPHEUS.ttf, Fonts\skurri.ttf and Fonts\ARIALN.TTF |
| 01:44.23 | Wobin | crazy |
| 01:44.32 | NightHawkTheSane | â BleetersAnAss |
| 01:44.38 | NightHawkTheSane | :D |
| 01:44.56 | NightHawkTheSane | is it just the smart quote? r the combination of the two characters? |
| 01:45.11 | Wobin | I put in both |
| 01:45.20 | Wobin | just in case =P |
| 01:45.28 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah and i had just the quote, which is why i'm asking ;) |
| 01:47.15 | Wobin | http://www.bluecollardistro.com/indietech/product_info.php?products_id=1721 |
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| 01:49.18 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, if you're at max level, do you still get gold from grey quests as if you got full xp? |
| 01:50.23 | Corrodias | that's a fabulous question |
| 01:51.27 | Wobin | we need a minigame we can play in the queue |
| 01:51.36 | Wobin | that if you win, you get promoted up a few spots =P |
| 01:51.44 | kd3 | whee, just got the first lv80 on medivh |
| 01:52.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Nice |
| 01:52.23 | NightHawkTheSane | kd3: thats insane. |
| 01:52.38 | Wobin | kd3: was it a valid 80? =) |
| 01:52.42 | kd3 | afaik |
| 01:52.45 | Wobin | or a guild powerlevelled one |
| 01:52.46 | kd3 | some hordie |
| 01:52.47 | kd3 | I'm alliance |
| 01:52.54 | NightHawkTheSane | can anyone answer my question, though? :D i'm debating finishing HF or not.. |
| 01:53.06 | Wobin | ~magiceightball |
| 01:53.07 | cbreak | weird. Our first 80 was horde too |
| 01:53.31 | cbreak | over seven hours ago. |
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| 01:59.07 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:59.08 | Wobin | zomg |
| 01:59.15 | Wobin | double digits in the queue |
| 01:59.46 | Amarande | hmm |
| 02:00.00 | Wobin | NightHawkTheSane: looks like it took 40 minutes or so =P |
| 02:00.03 | Amarande | guess it's time for me to create a secret unguilded character so I can work on Lua without being disturbed by guild business heh |
| 02:00.13 | Wobin | Amarande: always a good thing |
| 02:00.18 | Wobin | or just make a toon on Draka |
| 02:00.23 | Wobin | and join the wowicoding guilds |
| 02:00.39 | cbreak | just make a char on every server so you get free days by server downtimes... |
| 02:01.03 | kd3 | whee. our queue's 67 minutes long |
| 02:01.33 | Amarande | uh oh |
| 02:01.38 | Amarande | cbreak, are servers breaking lately? |
| 02:01.53 | cbreak | no idea. but chars are free :) |
| 02:02.00 | cbreak | my server was a bit less stable than usual |
| 02:02.14 | cbreak | but the queues are mainly due to overpopulation I think |
| 02:04.15 | Wobin | woo |
| 02:04.19 | Wobin | I'M IN |
| 02:04.35 | Wobin | (now watch me crash and head to the end of the queue) |
| 02:05.35 | elite3vil | someone just hit 80 on our server. |
| 02:05.48 | Sixen | There's at least 2 80's on my server... Both in the same guild. |
| 02:05.51 | Sixen | A hunter and a priest. |
| 02:05.54 | elite3vil | Ret pally |
| 02:06.30 | Amarande | wow ... I thought rets were broken by the patch |
| 02:06.39 | Amarande | do they get back into their own after 70? |
| 02:06.57 | NightHawkTheSane | you only thought that because you're reactionary and extremist :p |
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| 02:08.22 | Wobin | Reactionary!!!? |
| 02:41.56 | |Jelly| | So the new Indiana Jones ... wasn't good. |
| 02:42.21 | mikma | i know :O |
| 02:42.33 | NightHawkTheSane | .. old news? |
| 02:42.36 | |Jelly| | I really should have asked my fellow nerds before I rented it. |
| 02:42.46 | NightHawkTheSane | you should have pirated it instead |
| 02:42.48 | mikma | but |
| 02:42.53 | mikma | you wouldn't have believe them anyway |
| 02:43.00 | |Jelly| | Well, it was only 99 cents but whatever. |
| 02:43.04 | mikma | you still would have watched it and then say the same thing |
| 02:43.23 | |Jelly| | *shrug* Perhaps. |
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| 02:48.13 | Antiarc | http://i36.tinypic.com/hsuxba.jpg |
| 02:48.44 | Corrodias | i like the bondage blindfold |
| 02:49.03 | Antiarc | It's the Illidan blindfold :P |
| 02:49.25 | mikma | yes, bondage, like he said |
| 02:49.50 | Amarande | what's the actual name of that item? |
| 02:50.39 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_111508_044557.jpg <- funny quest! |
| 02:55.37 | Antiarc | Cursed Vision of Sargeras |
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| 03:30.03 | Cairenn | yes |
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| 03:34.52 | Coren{de} | if anyone's not asleep: is the English keyword for /who c-<class> "deathknight" or "death knight"? (and is there a female diversion?) |
| 03:35.34 | Coren{de} | (second guess is with space between death and knight) |
| 03:36.10 | Shirik|Ecole | with space |
| 03:36.44 | Coren{de} | thank you :) |
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| 03:54.07 | kd3 | holy hell the last boss in ahn'kahet is the coolest fight ever |
| 03:56.21 | NightHawkTheSane | seriously |
| 03:56.32 | NightHawkTheSane | that single encounter may be one of the best ones in the game |
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| 04:27.16 | kd3 | ouch. 960 queue, 2 hours long |
| 04:27.24 | NightHawkTheSane | harsh |
| 04:27.47 | Xinhuan | hi kd3 :) |
| 04:27.53 | Xinhuan | http://kinkou.net/xinftp/queue2.jpg <-- 9 hour wait? |
| 04:28.16 | Xinhuan | http://kinkou.net/xinftp/queue.jpg <-- what it looked like when i started queueing 1 hour ago |
| 04:28.49 | Corrodias | Flintstones Online queues: Bedrock is full. |
| 04:31.09 | Shirik|Ecole | So my friend's dad is an electrician, he works on tower cranes |
| 04:31.31 | Shirik|Ecole | he works on them live, while they're running, because it's too expensive to shut down the cranes for these repairs |
| 04:31.48 | Shirik|Ecole | He tells me his dad fell today, so I'm thinking "wow is he still alive?" |
| 04:32.22 | Shirik|Ecole | He fractured his arm, tore his rotator cuff, but this is so awesome -- he works like 500 feet in the air, and of all the things he could do wrong |
| 04:32.32 | Shirik|Ecole | he was directing traffic while walking backwards and tripped over an I-beam |
| 04:32.37 | Shirik|Ecole | on the ground |
| 04:32.52 | Corrodias | excellent |
| 04:33.00 | Shirik|Ecole | the irony is amazing |
| 04:44.47 | Kaso | Apparently i've permanently lost all the songs i bought on iTunes now |
| 04:44.58 | kd3 | this is why drm is fail |
| 04:44.59 | Corrodias | how's that? |
| 04:45.02 | Wobin | how does one 'alt-tab' in mac? |
| 04:45.10 | Kaso | cmd tab |
| 04:45.22 | Kaso | wait no |
| 04:45.25 | Corrodias | move your mouse to the DOCK and click on your app. will it switch? will it just launch another instance of it? |
| 04:45.25 | Kaso | its option tab |
| 04:45.32 | Corrodias | FIND OUT the fun way! |
| 04:45.39 | Kaso | lol |
| 04:45.50 | Amarande | Kaso: you're only able to download itunes songs once per purchase |
| 04:46.01 | Amarande | I sync mine back from the iPod if I have to format |
| 04:46.08 | Amarande | are you getting the 'computer is not authorized' message after that? |
| 04:46.11 | Corrodias | huh? Then they're stuck on your one computer and you can't do anything with them? |
| 04:46.27 | Amarande | Corrodias: you can authorize up to five computers to play stuff you bought from iTunes |
| 04:46.34 | Corrodias | i am consistently amused by Apple's draconian rule over their devices and services |
| 04:46.43 | Kaso | its not that ive not got the files, i've lost access because i've authed on 5 installs through the ages which have become unavailable to me to deauth |
| 04:46.43 | Amarande | but the only way to actually put them on those computers is to put them on an iPod and then copy them to the other computers via iTunes |
| 04:47.04 | Amarande | Kaso: hmm, it should let you deauth one |
| 04:47.19 | Amarande | although I think you can only deauth like one a month or something like that |
| 04:47.30 | mikma | heh |
| 04:47.36 | mikma | 15 servers on the list |
| 04:48.04 | Kaso | "This computer is not authorized" when i try to deauth |
| 04:48.35 | Corrodias | "Yeah, you're gonna need itunes to use your ipod. Oh yeah, you're gonna need an ipod to use itunes to any serious extent." |
| 04:49.01 | Corrodias | "Yeah, i'm gonna need you to come in on saturday and get down on your knees while i unzip." |
| 04:52.14 | Kaso | Ah, actually Amarande you're right there is a function to deauth all computers |
| 04:53.31 | Coren{de} | rolling restarts ftw... |
| 04:53.49 | mikma | lol what the hell |
| 04:54.00 | mikma | only 1 server up, Garrosh, german server, and it's locked :D |
| 04:54.02 | mikma | wasn't moment ago |
| 04:54.09 | Coren{de} | guess some hotfix stuff coming up... |
| 04:54.34 | kd3 | 1400 queue |
| 04:54.38 | kd3 | it's freaking midnight |
| 04:54.40 | kd3 | what the hell |
| 04:54.42 | Coren{de} | maybe a final death to Athene's exploit... |
| 04:55.03 | Kaso | what exploit is this? |
| 04:55.26 | Coren{de} | getting full xp in instance if you tagged, no matter how much damage you did to the mob |
| 04:55.27 | mikma | btw, seems like the place where the warlock aoe-grinded to 80 is nerfed |
| 04:55.40 | mikma | mobs there don't give you xp |
| 04:55.51 | kd3 | ta-da |
| 04:58.05 | Coren{de} | did anyone program against the archievement interface? I'd like to scan players in the group if they got a "Real first!" stuff, so I can kick them... :> |
| 04:58.12 | mikma | i hope we get some info what was this downtime about :) |
| 04:58.19 | mikma | coren{de}: haha |
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| 04:59.32 | laninak | does anybody have a good unholy spec? |
| 04:59.44 | mikma | http://deathknightbuilds.com/ |
| 05:02.01 | Coren{de} | no function prototypes yet for AddAchievementComparisonUnit/GetAchievementComparisonInfo on WoWWiki :/ |
| 05:02.13 | mikma | ~wowbible |
| 05:02.14 | purl | hmm... wowbible is http://wowprogramming.com/docs |
| 05:02.18 | mikma | see that one also |
| 05:03.37 | Syzgyn | Coren{de}: What're you trying to get specifically? |
| 05:04.47 | Coren{de} | no prototypes there either, but thanks for the link :) |
| 05:05.19 | Coren{de} | Syzgyn, I want to check Feats of Strength against "Realm First!" achievements |
| 05:05.51 | Syzgyn | As in, check if a character has completed them? |
| 05:05.57 | Coren{de} | aye |
| 05:06.07 | Syzgyn | Oh, and you need the name of the character that has |
| 05:06.13 | Coren{de} | a foreign unit that is |
| 05:07.41 | Syzgyn | So you need help getting which part of it? |
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| 05:09.32 | Coren{de} | the unclearest part atm is the second argument for GetAchievementComparisonInfo(achievementID, comparisonNum) |
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| 05:10.38 | Syzgyn | It's the month if completed |
| 05:11.03 | Coren{de} | I expect the AchievementIDs to be globally constant, so that's just finding out numbers... but what is comparisonNum... |
| 05:11.06 | Syzgyn | Basically, arg1 is a boolean if that achievement has been completed |
| 05:11.14 | Syzgyn | oh, arg |
| 05:11.40 | Syzgyn | it's always 1 |
| 05:11.49 | Coren{de} | oh 8) |
| 05:11.56 | Syzgyn | The reasoning behind it was |
| 05:12.07 | Syzgyn | originally you were gonna be able to compare against multiple units at once |
| 05:12.15 | Syzgyn | so it'd be 1-4 or whatever |
| 05:12.25 | Syzgyn | but that got scrapped, and the function stayed the same. |
| 05:13.16 | Coren{de} | Ah, interesting... |
| 05:15.50 | Coren{de} | I assume there's a delay after SetAchievementComparisonUnit before one can access GetAchievementComparisonInfo...? checking events |
| 05:19.32 | Syzgyn | Yes |
| 05:19.45 | Syzgyn | INSPECT_ACHIEVEMENT_READY |
| 05:22.15 | Coren{de} | ah, should've just looked into the Blizzard_AchievementUI.lua, it's all there ;) thanks anyways, Syzgyn :) |
| 05:23.42 | Coren{de} | servers are back up, woot :D |
| 05:30.15 | Wobin | tauren dk /train sounds like someone's hanging onto my tackle =P |
| 05:42.22 | Amarande | meh, I stand by my previous decision that my DK will be a blood elf woman |
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| 05:51.30 | Wobin | interestingly enough |
| 05:51.34 | Wobin | in a 5dk ramp run |
| 05:51.44 | Wobin | I'm outdpsing the 63s |
| 05:51.46 | Wobin | as 58 |
| 05:51.53 | Wobin | truly unholy is the way to go |
| 05:52.12 | NightHawkTheSane | or they suck :p |
| 05:52.36 | Wobin | this is also possible |
| 05:52.49 | Wobin | as I'm actually using a cycle =P |
| 05:52.59 | Wobin | I'm so glad I could look that up on EJ |
| 05:53.18 | Wobin | as figuring out a cycle that works on all rune cooldowns would have driven me insane |
| 05:53.42 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* i haven't played unholy, but most of the cycles are reasonably straightforward, at least i thought so |
| 05:54.01 | Wobin | yeah |
| 05:54.08 | Wobin | they are |
| 05:54.35 | Wobin | but using a cycle helps =P |
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| 06:05.41 | Amarande | Addons that worked in 3.0.2/3.0.3 BC still work with WotLK installed, right? |
| 06:06.21 | Shirik | yes |
| 06:11.02 | bleeter | aargh, modal dialogs |
| 06:11.16 | bleeter | 1200+ queue, and gotta cancel to disable sound in backgroun >< |
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| 06:12.42 | Amarande | my realms are all Medium |
| 06:12.51 | Amarande | even Stormrage, which used to be consistently High before the expansion |
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| 06:20.08 | Tekkub | MY TASK IS DONE! |
| 06:20.25 | Tekkub | Auc should use that for the scan complete sound |
| 06:20.41 | kd3 | win |
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| 06:23.24 | Amarande | Deathknight created. |
| 06:29.17 | Shirik | Welp, I have successfully killed my character, permanently |
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| 06:31.45 | Amarande | how did you do -that-? |
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| 06:39.42 | bleeter | hmm, so... I'm in queue. Get down from ~1000 to ~800. Decide I'll just change one network setting in XP. I press 'OK', I get kicked. Straight away, relog back to the game. Back at the head of the queue? |
| 06:40.02 | bleeter | maybe they've changed the queue's behaviour :/ |
| 06:40.07 | Corrodias | sounds familiar |
| 06:40.16 | Corrodias | keeping your place in line, i mean |
| 06:40.42 | bleeter | yeah, it didn't though. I was out of the queue for at most 15 seconds |
| 06:40.59 | bleeter | (disabled ye olde checksum offloads, people had been moaning at me in vent) |
| 06:41.07 | Tekkub | uh, you have a timeout before you go into queue again if you were logged in |
| 06:41.11 | Corrodias | so when you say head of the queue, you mean the entrance |
| 06:41.15 | Tekkub | but just waiting, nope :P |
| 06:42.03 | bleeter | I had the WoW thing resized so as soon a the network came back up after being reset, I could log back in. Took all of 10 seconds.. /shrug |
| 06:42.33 | smcn | oh dalaran how i missed ye |
| 06:43.33 | NightHawkTheSane | indeed. |
| 06:44.28 | Tekkub | someone start farming herbs on my realm damnit |
| 06:45.02 | bleeter | I tried farming them on my realm earlier, either terribad repop, or a bajizillion others trying to farm |
| 06:45.10 | bleeter | I suspect the truth is halfway between the two |
| 06:47.33 | Tekkub | man the tuskaar quary in Borean was so bad with the repoppink |
| 06:47.47 | Tekkub | in beta it wouldn't repop fast and it was a big game of tag |
| 06:48.01 | Tekkub | tonight they popped so fast you couldn't interact with th eobjects |
| 06:52.02 | Amarande | hmm |
| 06:52.10 | Amarande | you can't have both a rune and an enchant on a DK weapon, I'm presuming |
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| 06:53.59 | NightHawkTheSane | no |
| 06:55.04 | Amarande | also, what's this I'm reading on the wow forums |
| 06:55.09 | Amarande | the first person to reach level 80 got *banned*? |
| 06:57.05 | NightHawkTheSane | serves him right |
| 06:57.58 | Amarande | I'm still trying to find out what's with that |
| 06:58.06 | Amarande | saw a thread in WoW general, but it was deleted before I clicked on it |
| 06:58.10 | Kaso | Hah that'd be delicious if true |
| 06:58.42 | Tekkub | uhm, well I'm betting he played nonstop for like what, 36 hours? |
| 06:58.55 | Tekkub | that's instant "powerelevel service" flagging :) |
| 07:00.08 | Amarande | haha, Bazz already hit 80, too |
| 07:00.36 | Tekkub | what's wrong with people? |
| 07:00.48 | bleeter | there was some exploit posted on some fan site, about fast respawns and getting more XP per hour than possible from queting |
| 07:00.53 | bleeter | or so the story goes |
| 07:00.56 | Tekkub | the only thing that says about you is "I have no life" |
| 07:01.32 | Wobin | goddamnit |
| 07:01.35 | Tekkub | hrm... considering the repopping in the tuskarr quary tonight, I could see someone grinding nonstop there |
| 07:01.36 | Amarande | bleeter: wait, if grinding happens by some happenstance to give a better xp rate than questing, that's officially considered cheating? |
| 07:01.37 | Wobin | I quit the game |
| 07:01.39 | Wobin | instead of idling |
| 07:01.51 | bleeter | is there somewhere in NR where a rogue can skillup on world lock obxes? (asking on behalf of a guildy) |
| 07:02.04 | Tekkub | bleeter, tell him I hate him |
| 07:02.35 | bleeter | Amarande: fast repop is in there because of launch day and heavy population. taking advantage of that mechanic to bypass what the game designers intended is, abuse of mechanics/exploiting |
| 07:02.50 | Amarande | and idiots are already complaining that DKs need a nerf |
| 07:03.09 | bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12661599846&sid=1 << thread talking about someone who got banned using the exploit |
| 07:03.15 | bleeter | *allegedly |
| 07:03.22 | bleeter | hit 80 in 27 hours |
| 07:03.42 | bleeter | 500k XP in one hour, etc. etc. |
| 07:04.02 | Tekkub | that's just too funny, especially since in some areas the instarepop makes it so you can't do some "normal" quests unless you have someone to draw aggro while you open objects |
| 07:04.41 | bleeter | i was having trouble using quest items 'coz of repop interrupts hitting me :/ |
| 07:04.48 | Amarande | Tekkub: not to mention we KNOW the repop rate won't ever be significantly lowered from now |
| 07:04.54 | Amarande | point in case: Hellfire Peninsula, Zeth'Gor |
| 07:05.21 | bleeter | Tekkub: sorry, 'tell him I hate him'? you mean my rogue friend? he ain't skilled up, he's wondering where the hell to do so. I claims he's not seen a lockbox at all anywhere yet |
| 07:05.29 | Amarande | I am -almost certain- the reason that the repop rate there is such absolute hell, is because it had to be when BC was new and everyone had to pass through the Hellfire bottleneck unless they had high enough gear to go straight to Zangarmarsh instead |
| 07:05.38 | Tekkub | bleeter, yes, tell him I hate him |
| 07:05.44 | bleeter | Tekkub: why? |
| 07:05.45 | Amarande | and of course, they never rebalanced it once the rush was over |
| 07:05.57 | Tekkub | bleeter, you don't get it, you suck |
| 07:06.02 | Tekkub | I hate you too |
| 07:06.06 | bleeter | Tekkub: no u |
| 07:06.10 | Amarande | bleeter: not like that's new at all, either, with repops being too fast to hit quest items |
| 07:06.32 | Tekkub | Amarande, I went directly to zangar |
| 07:06.36 | Amarande | Ever try that one horde quest in EPL where you have to go up into that lodge near the path to ghostlands and kill elves and get that book for what's his name Sylvanas' champion? |
| 07:06.42 | Tekkub | but I don't want to go directly to dragonblight |
| 07:06.45 | Corrodias | i've done that one |
| 07:06.56 | Corrodias | i think |
| 07:07.03 | Amarande | mobs there have an aggro radius the size of Bill Belichick's ego, and they respawn faster than Tribbles |
| 07:07.13 | pompy_ | im leveling prot.. no point in respecing dps lo |
| 07:07.14 | Amarande | I was an -aff lock- and had to get help there |
| 07:07.25 | Corrodias | AFLACK |
| 07:08.52 | bleeter | so I discovered the source of my WoW/Vent pain, aka getting abused for crappy vent chat and running in place, ever since launch day |
| 07:09.26 | bleeter | I updated the network card drivers, now has Checksum Offloading option (never did before), and guess what it was set to >< |
| 07:09.37 | Amarande | in any case, how do we know it's not going to start going down like |
| 07:09.42 | bleeter | ~fail bleeter |
| 07:09.42 | purl | bleeter: FAIL! |
| 07:09.52 | Amarande | they -don't- rebalance the repop rate (which judging by Quel'lithien and HFP is fairly likely) |
| 07:10.07 | Amarande | people continue to realize that grinding is better than questing, and Blizzard punishes them for being smart? |
| 07:10.17 | Wobin | bleeter: it's cause Tekkub sucks as a rogue |
| 07:10.20 | Wobin | and not in the good way |
| 07:10.32 | Amarande | wonder if 'failure to do X number of quests per level' is going to start getting legit players labeled as 'powerlevel service' |
| 07:10.49 | Tekkub | Wobin doesn't get it either |
| 07:10.51 | NightHawkTheSane | with luck :p |
| 07:10.56 | Wobin | Tekkub: nobody does |
| 07:11.00 | bleeter | Tekkub: we don't get it.. because |
| 07:11.00 | Wobin | thus the point |
| 07:11.01 | bleeter | YOU SUCK |
| 07:11.02 | Wobin | that you suck |
| 07:11.06 | |Jelly| | What defense do you need in WotLK for uncritable |
| 07:11.16 | Tekkub | nope, I cannot be responsible for your failure |
| 07:11.28 | bleeter | hfmnfhnfh dfjkghdfgj jkeruiertiuxcgvb |
| 07:11.28 | Wobin | sure you can |
| 07:11.38 | Wobin | since it's in your own little dream world =P |
| 07:12.22 | Wobin | clearly tekkub failed miserably as a rogue at some point in time |
| 07:12.34 | Wobin | and so has thereforth held a dislike of any rogue that has 'made it' |
| 07:12.38 | Tekkub | never played a rogue and never will |
| 07:12.47 | Wobin | he's repressed it, see? |
| 07:12.59 | bleeter | even fails at failing |
| 07:13.03 | Wobin | it's terrbile |
| 07:13.06 | bleeter | that's some awesome fail you got going there, Tekkub |
| 07:13.11 | bleeter | you should bottle it and sell it |
| 07:13.11 | Tekkub | Farnsworth: "Who are those horrible orange creatures over there?" |
| 07:13.11 | Tekkub | Glurmo: "Why those are the Grunka Lunkas. They work here in the Slurm factory." |
| 07:13.11 | Tekkub | Farnsworth: "Tell them I hate them!" |
| 07:13.16 | bleeter | under license from Blizz, though :P |
| 07:13.42 | Wobin | Tekkub: that would be amusing... if there was any sort of reference aside from your last line =P |
| 07:14.02 | Wobin | if say, Mr Rogue was asking "Who are those mobs over there?" |
| 07:14.27 | Wobin | however, your reference failed because there was no context whatsoever for the quote |
| 07:14.36 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12661339630&sid=1&pageNo=2#24 |
| 07:14.39 | ScytheBlade1 | irl lol |
| 07:14.42 | Tekkub | there's no context whatsoever IN the quote |
| 07:14.45 | Tekkub | that's the POINT |
| 07:14.47 | ScytheBlade1 | successful troll is successful |
| 07:15.34 | Wobin | " Lol@keyloggednubs who think s in https is secure, it stands for singaporean host, meaning it is obviously keylogger territorial advantage priority code blue. Nice try bud. " |
| 07:16.00 | Wobin | Tekkub: that is no point, it merely means that it's a sucky quote |
| 07:17.20 | bleeter | lol the Beta Optin is still available on Acct Mgt page |
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| 07:21.01 | Amarande | lol all these people complaining about queues |
| 07:21.09 | Amarande | my main server hasn't had queues at all that I know of |
| 07:21.38 | Amarande | it was medium pop before xpack launch and it's -still- steady medium pop |
| 07:22.33 | Tekkub | lucky you |
| 07:22.45 | Tekkub | my server went from high pop to 1000 in queue |
| 07:23.18 | Amarande | well, my other main server was fuhgeddaboutit last night, but seems to have calmed down tonight |
| 07:23.18 | Tekkub | and this server was a queue-refugee server back when BC came out, that's why we transferred |
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| 07:23.58 | Tekkub | I shoulda gone to Grizzly Hills /sadgrizzly |
| 07:24.07 | Amarande | omg. people on the wow forums who don't get the siouxsie the banshee reference |
| 07:24.11 | Amarande | I feel old :( |
| 07:24.21 | Tekkub | sushi? |
| 07:25.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: yeah, that's a shame. :( |
| 07:25.12 | NightHawkTheSane | such an awesome reference too |
| 07:25.25 | |Jelly| | Amarande: Where is it? |
| 07:25.34 | NightHawkTheSane | ebon hold |
| 07:26.24 | bleeter | I dare not check, but I suspect every Oceanic is Locked |
| 07:26.33 | bleeter | coz to check, I'd have to drop my queue position |
| 07:26.41 | Tekkub | DO IT |
| 07:26.47 | Tekkub | DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT |
| 07:27.06 | Amarande | Dreadmaul is High, all other Oceanics are Locked |
| 07:27.38 | Amarande | and apparently all five US realms I have characters on are Medium or Low. |
| 07:28.20 | bleeter | 9/10 locked? nice |
| 07:29.29 | Tekkub | Artie reads the quest now? fuuuuuuck |
| 07:29.41 | bleeter | nicer, the online upgrade to wotlk is working, (as indicated in the post ScytheBlade1 referenced, my friend thanks you! :) |
| 07:29.55 | Amarande | meanwhile, here's my paradise: |
| 07:29.56 | Amarande | http://www.lunasanguine.com/images/WoWScrnShot_111508_022749.jpg |
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| 07:37.59 | bleeter | lol someone's asked the US GM forum for a generic email address to sendtheir thanks and apreciation to everyone @ Blizz for Wrath etc. |
| 07:38.11 | bleeter | GM had to reply 'ah yeah, don't really have one of those' |
| 07:45.47 | pompy_ | two ppl just hit 79 on my server |
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| 07:57.09 | smcn | heh questhelper is practically useless in grizzly hills with all these recurring npcs from ZA :P |
| 07:57.18 | smcn | and the drakuru braziers |
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| 08:33.24 | cog|away | /headdesk |
| 08:33.25 | cog|away | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12661339630&sid=1 |
| 08:49.43 | batrick | I think i just got insta approved |
| 08:50.12 | batrick | wowi mods are quick |
| 08:53.00 | batrick | uploading my new addon file to curse is always a pleasant exercise of patience |
| 08:53.19 | batrick | anyone else feel that way? |
| 08:53.34 | cog|away | i gave up on multiple sites |
| 08:53.55 | batrick | wowi is so easy |
| 08:54.12 | batrick | curse makes it more and more difficult to update the damn things |
| 09:02.27 | mikma | i got an idea |
| 09:02.41 | mikma | weirdofwarcraft.com |
| 09:04.21 | cog|away | my wife started calling our dog "Basement Poodle" |
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| 09:14.11 | mikma | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44464 <- own. |
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| 10:31.02 | Nom- | woot finally got a new item |
| 10:31.18 | Nom- | from the Amphitheatre of Anguish |
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| 10:36.33 | zenzelezz | [Guild] [...]: There isnt one single mob alive in Hellfire pen.... its worse then northrend.. |
| 10:44.13 | Nom- | that's not surprising |
| 10:44.31 | Nom- | unlike northrend, there's no split between 2 zones |
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| 11:32.08 | abyx | is there a reason why i can't use string.gmatch(...) in my addon? |
| 11:46.29 | haste | abyx: my guess is that you feed it the wrong arguments |
| 11:49.51 | abyx | right you are |
| 11:50.53 | abyx | but now i'm getting an error saying table expected, got nil with something that looks like this: local args = {}; table.insert(args, foo); |
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| 11:56.05 | haste | abyx: then your args is a nil value :p |
| 11:56.28 | haste | read the error, it should tell you what argument is X instead of Y |
| 11:56.54 | abyx | it says table expected, got nil |
| 11:57.22 | abyx | but how can it get nil if i declare an empty table directly before i call table.insert() ? |
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| 12:02.49 | Wobin | xJust had a tauren shaman hit 80 |
| 12:02.56 | Wobin | on our server |
| 12:03.02 | Wobin | I guess we're a little slow =P |
| 12:03.10 | abyx | mage got 80 first on mannoroth |
| 12:03.47 | abyx | which happens to be down right now =( |
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| 12:07.59 | zenzelezz | our first was a warlock |
| 12:08.58 | pompy_ | nathrezim just had a tauren warrior hit 80 |
| 12:09.09 | pompy_ | and a troll hunter is just about to hit 80 |
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| 12:17.05 | haste | abyx: it can't be nil unless you have a typo :) |
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| 12:26.55 | Wobin | zomg |
| 12:26.59 | Wobin | the Dalaran crater =) |
| 12:27.03 | Wobin | looks so cool |
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| 12:45.50 | pompy_ | second person jus hit level 80 on my server |
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| 13:08.26 | XTZGZoReX | Where could I go for some help on coloring text in WoW? :P |
| 13:08.34 | XTZGZoReX | Like, |C, |R, etc. |
| 13:14.04 | Robsato | XTZGZoReX: http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_Escape_Sequences |
| 13:14.24 | XTZGZoReX | Thanks |
| 13:19.41 | AbsoRayne | Blah, halfway to 76 |
| 13:19.50 | AbsoRayne | Then off to Sholazar |
| 13:20.03 | abyx | i'm halfway to 75 =( |
| 13:21.33 | Wobin | hehe |
| 13:21.34 | Wobin | reboot |
| 13:21.39 | Wobin | IN B4 Q |
| 13:22.16 | XTZGZoReX | Robsato: Can I by chance make font bold/underline? |
| 13:22.45 | Robsato | I don't think so |
| 13:24.13 | cbreak | WoW does not have bold or underlined fonts |
| 13:24.52 | cbreak | you could provide your own fonts I guess, but I am not sure if font switching is supported inside font strings. |
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| 13:27.06 | Antiarc | Ding 77, and DAMN does it feel good to have my wings back |
| 13:27.15 | Wobin | hehe grats |
| 13:33.23 | cbreak | I feel slow... |
| 13:33.36 | Wobin | You're just getting old |
| 13:34.01 | cbreak | maybe... |
| 13:34.18 | cbreak | most in my guld are around level 72 still, me included... |
| 13:34.27 | Antiarc | Hm |
| 13:34.32 | Antiarc | So our server rolling restarted |
| 13:34.36 | Antiarc | And my wife is back in |
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| 13:34.41 | Antiarc | But I can't even get the character list |
| 13:35.55 | Robsato | Anyone know if it is possible to read the story from the installation again without re-installing the game? I got called away during installation so was not able to read it all :-( |
| 13:35.59 | cbreak | queue or just slow? |
| 13:36.08 | Antiarc | No queue, just insta-disconnect |
| 13:36.41 | cbreak | Robsato: did you try to rename WTF/Config.wtf? |
| 13:38.59 | Robsato | Nope, lemme try |
| 13:41.20 | pompy_ | antiarc: my server too |
| 13:41.21 | pompy_ | gayy |
| 13:41.46 | Robsato | No, doesn't work. Ah, well. It was basically the story of Arthas, guess I can read it on the Wiki also |
| 13:57.36 | leethal | how do you get the size of a table? |
| 13:57.41 | leethal | as in, amount of items in it |
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| 14:19.06 | p3lim | is it possible to add custom coords to tomtom? |
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| 14:28.52 | pompy_ | yes |
| 14:29.04 | pompy_ | .. /way (yuor coords) |
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| 14:52.04 | Gnarfoz | someone suggested "ExitVehicle()" yesterday - that doesn't exist :?\ |
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| 15:02.55 | |pez| | Woo, first run through The Nexus! XD |
| 15:04.14 | zenzelezz | :) |
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| 15:59.02 | p3lim | thanks pompy_ |
| 15:59.31 | leethal | nihilum pwnd naxx |
| 15:59.39 | pompy_ | p3lim: np |
| 15:59.54 | zenzelezz | leethal: link? |
| 16:00.47 | leethal | some ex nihilum told me in guildchat, trying to find a link |
| 16:11.10 | digmouse | see their site |
| 16:11.15 | digmouse | KT down already |
| 16:16.55 | _Stan_ | http://www.twentyfifthnovember.com/ - 10man: Cleared - 25man: Sartharion, Naxxramas down. < irc ftw |
| 16:27.33 | leethal | digmouse: nihilum.eu? |
| 16:27.38 | leethal | can't find anything about it there |
| 16:27.56 | leethal | oh, they have a new website now? Sk and nihilum merged or smt.? |
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| 16:44.43 | _Stan_ | leethal: yes |
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| 16:59.54 | mikma | http://media.fukung.net/images/1678/Super_Happy_Fun_Futurama_Show_by_spacecoyote.jpg |
| 17:05.17 | |pez| | I made a DK XD |
| 17:05.53 | Iriel | yay |
| 17:06.03 | Iriel | just started, or just completed the intro quests/ |
| 17:06.05 | Iriel | ? |
| 17:11.26 | leethal | dks makes me want to reroll alliance, for a gnome |
| 17:17.24 | Wobin | I just tanked my first instance as a DK |
| 17:17.29 | Wobin | undead strat |
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| 17:23.23 | Iriel | Nice, there's a realm-global announcement for the first Level 80 of each class |
| 17:23.38 | alestane | And grand master of each profession. |
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| 17:24.17 | alestane | There were originally going to be titles that went with them too. |
| 17:27.51 | alestane | But the obsessives complained that they'd be so busy trying to claim the titles, DSS woudl take their kids away. |
| 17:29.00 | Iriel | it's funny but it's true 8-( |
| 17:29.26 | mikma | leethal: lol, for the gnome! |
| 17:30.38 | mikma | wobin: so how was the dk tanking? |
| 17:30.59 | Wobin | you need a good healer =) |
| 17:31.06 | Wobin | but not too hard |
| 17:31.11 | Wobin | for unholy, it's basically aoe tanking |
| 17:31.37 | mikma | and deaths grip works well if boss gets away? |
| 17:31.56 | Wobin | deathgrip is the taunt |
| 17:32.09 | mikma | ya |
| 17:32.17 | mikma | says basicly in the tooltip |
| 17:32.21 | Wobin | basically you set up the diseases on the main target |
| 17:32.29 | Wobin | then use pestilence to spread it |
| 17:32.39 | Wobin | occasionally cycle bloodboil in |
| 17:32.45 | Wobin | although I'm not sure how much that does |
| 17:32.55 | Wobin | Frost Presence is a major help |
| 17:33.10 | Wobin | Use Strangulate to pull casters |
| 17:33.15 | Wobin | (or death grip) |
| 17:33.30 | Wobin | although I tend to keep DG for an 'reverse intercept' |
| 17:34.05 | Wobin | and chains of ice + deathgrip = slowmo through the air =) |
| 17:34.17 | mikma | loooool |
| 17:34.22 | mikma | gotta test that |
| 17:34.44 | mikma | is there a range increse for ice-stuff |
| 17:34.48 | leethal | wow, why have I been asking you guys, everything I need to know is in clads book |
| 17:35.00 | mikma | we knoe |
| 17:35.06 | haste | you suck leethal ! |
| 17:35.07 | mikma | ~wowbible |
| 17:35.08 | purl | wowbible is, like, http://wowprogramming.com/docs |
| 17:35.27 | mikma | thats the reason why we call it bible |
| 17:35.45 | Wobin | my cycle tends to be plague strike, icy touch, blood strike x 2, Scourge Strike x 2 then deathcoil til runepower drained |
| 17:35.56 | Wobin | swap in pestilence and bloodboil as needed |
| 17:36.09 | Wobin | or gargoyle if you've enough runepower |
| 17:36.19 | leethal | so what's that supposed to mean? Everything I need to know about life is in the bible?!??111 |
| 17:36.20 | zenzelezz | lol, "Future You" likes to diss you |
| 17:36.29 | Wobin | garg is nice, you just have to maintain enough runepower to keep him around |
| 17:36.37 | Wobin | although don't use it on trash in the Ramps |
| 17:37.30 | Wobin | hm, Dark Command at 65 will be nice |
| 17:37.37 | Wobin | as an actual taunt |
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| 17:38.38 | Wobin | after running with a 70 mage as a 58 dk, I realised that trying to maintain aggro without an actual taunt was pointless =P |
| 17:39.31 | Wobin | and once I get death and decay, it'll be easier to maintain aggro |
| 17:40.26 | mikma | death wobin |
| 17:41.00 | leethal | why do i get '33144' for the timeLeft part of a UnitBuff call, for a buff that has 12 seconds left? |
| 17:42.15 | mikma | its gametime |
| 17:42.24 | leethal | aha |
| 17:42.39 | mikma | itts when the buff started |
| 17:42.55 | mikma | or something |
| 17:43.04 | leethal | current time and duration to the rescue, then |
| 17:43.51 | Wobin | rofl |
| 17:43.54 | Wobin | DK get a sentry totem |
| 17:44.57 | mikma | lol? link from wowhead |
| 17:45.16 | Wobin | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=57532 |
| 17:46.43 | mikma | is that a skill or talent? |
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| 17:46.57 | Wobin | skill |
| 17:47.01 | Wobin | lvl 69 |
| 17:47.03 | Lunessa | station |
| 17:47.22 | mikma | battle |
| 17:47.26 | Wobin | actually there doesn't seem to be an applicable trainer |
| 17:47.30 | Wobin | so who knows if it exists |
| 17:49.51 | Wobin | I also raised one of my partymates after he died |
| 17:49.54 | Wobin | as a ghoul |
| 17:49.57 | Wobin | but he just stood there =( |
| 17:50.05 | Wobin | so I don't know how effective stuff is for that |
| 17:50.26 | mikma | raise dead <3 |
| 17:50.39 | mikma | its fun to ress your friend |
| 17:50.48 | Wobin | I'm really liking unholy |
| 17:51.00 | mikma | then run to someone and and corpse explosion |
| 17:51.08 | Wobin | although I'm -thinking- of respeccing to blood for levelling |
| 17:51.33 | Wobin | once I grind my bloody tradeskills up =P |
| 17:51.56 | Lunessa | Wobin: I liked frost, but it was too hard to play well for leveling. Blood was faster, but Unholy was way more fun. :) |
| 17:52.08 | Wobin | yeah =) |
| 17:52.14 | Wobin | what's the good thing about frost? |
| 17:52.22 | Wobin | I've yet to see anyone use it well =\ |
| 17:52.27 | Lunessa | Frost is too many gorram cooldowns to track, but I liked having CC. |
| 17:52.35 | mikma | wobin: http://deathknightbuilds.com/ |
| 17:52.44 | mikma | wobin: see blood, nr.5 |
| 17:52.50 | Wobin | ooh, nice |
| 17:53.38 | Lunessa | I think once more people get used to the ghoul trick, it'll be more useful. |
| 17:54.05 | Wobin | yeah |
| 17:54.16 | leethal | hmm, odd. The UnitBuff call inside this OnUpdate returns the timeLeft as it was when the buff first was applied, not the current time left -- http://wowuidev.pastey.net/101891 |
| 17:54.19 | Wobin | it took me a while to figure out that my shadow of death procced |
| 17:54.30 | Wobin | and I was like "woah, someone raise deaded me!" |
| 17:54.32 | leethal | doesn't UnitBuff work inside an OnUpdate, or something? |
| 17:54.37 | Wobin | then I realised it was myself =P |
| 17:54.44 | mikma | hehe |
| 17:54.53 | leethal | (or are there any better ways to track the time left of a buff you know the buff index of, maybe?) |
| 17:55.13 | leethal | oh, wait, i think I missed a 'school' variable between count and duration |
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| 17:55.45 | Wobin | is mark of blood a once off buff? |
| 17:55.59 | Wobin | or however many times the target is hit in the 20secs |
| 17:56.08 | NightHawkTheSane | it lasts the entire 20s |
| 17:56.10 | leethal | does that mean http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitBuff is wrong and http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitBuff is right? |
| 17:56.13 | Wobin | oh that's nice |
| 17:56.17 | NightHawkTheSane | yes it is :) |
| 17:57.50 | Iriel | leethal: it changed for 3.0, so yes |
| 18:00.12 | leethal | odd.. this code http://wowuidev.pastey.net/101892 produces this output http://skitch.com/leethal/5arr/output |
| 18:00.25 | leethal | it shows 'Medidation -- 15 -- 34....' for the full duration of the buff |
| 18:01.21 | leethal | the timeLeft looks very epoch-ish. Is it a timestamp of when the buff started, maybe? |
| 18:01.34 | leethal | s/epoch/epoc |
| 18:02.15 | Iriel | * MODIFIED - name, rank, icon, count, debuffType, duration, expirationTime, isMine, isStealable = UnitBuff("unit", [index] or ["name", "rank"]) |
| 18:02.19 | Iriel | That's the ACTUAL signature |
| 18:02.21 | Lunessa | http://cad-comic.com/comic.php?d=20081114 |
| 18:02.26 | Iriel | notice it's the time it expires, not how long it has left |
| 18:02.39 | leethal | ah, i see |
| 18:03.04 | leethal | how do I get the current time in the same format as the expirationTime? |
| 18:03.13 | Iriel | it's that way in part to say 'Dont keep calling UnitBuff, just cache the result the first time' |
| 18:03.16 | Iriel | GetTime() |
| 18:03.34 | leethal | yeah, that makes a lot more sense to do anyway |
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| 18:09.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope |
| 18:09.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Err |
| 18:09.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Wrong window |
| 18:12.11 | Lunessa | http://www.pvponline.com/2008/11/14/art-imitates-game-imitates-life/ - so wrong. |
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| 18:16.27 | bleeter | wheeee 10 days to go... so excited i think I might go hug the joey in the back yard |
| 18:16.27 | NightHawkTheSane | and yet, so true |
| 18:16.32 | bleeter | whut |
| 18:16.33 | bleeter | oh |
| 18:17.38 | Lunessa | bleeter: You're just saying you haver a joey in the backyard to get girls to gush over you. |
| 18:17.59 | bleeter | nah, if I wanted girls to gush I'd hug the joey's mum too |
| 18:18.27 | Lunessa | I don't think they call that "hugging." |
| 18:18.56 | mikma | http://media.fukung.net/images/6305/15778.jpg |
| 18:19.05 | mikma | i remember seeing the internetarticle about that one |
| 18:19.10 | mikma | escape-tunnels and all :D |
| 18:19.58 | bleeter | anyone else see that story yesterday about the german prisoner who worked in the prison to make envelopes and stuff? |
| 18:20.01 | Lunessa | Some people will go to great lengths to grow that stuff. |
| 18:20.18 | bleeter | jumped into a box he made for himself and the courier took him outside the walls and he escaped >< |
| 18:20.23 | Wobin | bleeter: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7730018.stm |
| 18:20.39 | Lunessa | Yeah, it was on the radio here yesterday. |
| 18:20.42 | mikma | lol |
| 18:20.50 | bleeter | Wobin: that's the one :) |
| 18:21.17 | bleeter | Wobin: you hear the Fat Pizza guys are making a show about bogans? |
| 18:21.30 | Wobin | dagos were too easy, eh? |
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| 18:22.07 | bleeter | Wobin: http://www.themercury.com.au/article/2008/11/16/38701_todays-news.html |
| 18:22.34 | bleeter | Wobin: that guy had been in the paper the previous day trying to get on the show. |
| 18:22.40 | Wobin | wow |
| 18:22.42 | Wobin | tasmanian news |
| 18:22.44 | bleeter | oh, hang on, that's not the main article |
| 18:22.58 | bleeter | http://www.themercury.com.au/article/2008/11/15/38525_todays-news.html |
| 18:23.00 | bleeter | that one |
| 18:23.18 | bleeter | gagebrook is like ... the whole western suburbs rolled into 2sq km's |
| 18:23.40 | Wobin | ... |
| 18:23.47 | Wobin | First order of importance |
| 18:23.53 | Wobin | hotted up V8 and bike |
| 18:23.58 | Wobin | -then- family and friends |
| 18:24.15 | bleeter | 2nd order of importance, son assault police officer when police officer tries to check house for others inside |
| 18:24.37 | Lunessa | Makes you wonder how big the kid's stash was. |
| 18:24.56 | Wobin | ah, I was wondering how that sentence parsed |
| 18:25.05 | Wobin | it could have meant "didn't let the son in" |
| 18:25.10 | Wobin | or "son didn't let the officer in" |
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| 18:25.22 | bleeter | I should have some coffee before I try typing more |
| 18:26.40 | Wobin | yuck |
| 18:26.41 | Wobin | night |
| 18:26.43 | Wobin | goddamnit |
| 18:27.13 | Wobin | I haven't gone to bed with the sky lighting up in a while |
| 18:27.21 | Wobin | >< |
| 18:28.07 | bleeter | aww I made him run away |
| 18:33.33 | Lunessa | "Welcome to the text based world. If you can't use English (or any other language) remotely properly then you appear to be stupid because what you write is stupid. I can't help stupid. " - I love this guy. |
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| 18:51.24 | bleeter | ffs... another 7AM restart, tagged as 12PM PST |
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| 19:01.17 | bleeter | hehe |
| 19:01.30 | bleeter | new kernel and stuff? |
| 19:01.31 | kd3 | ya |
| 19:01.52 | kd3 | and it's still failing. time to reinstall the nvidia drivers |
| 19:02.02 | bleeter | I noticed it was .27, so I left it disabled |
| 19:02.08 | bleeter | bah hah |
| 19:02.53 | Dewin | hmm. |
| 19:03.04 | Dewin | Should I work or level death knight... decisions decisions |
| 19:03.35 | bnovc | are there any useful addons for gathering professions (mining/herb) beside gatherer |
| 19:04.33 | Dewin | I've heard of gathermate as an alternative |
| 19:04.36 | Dewin | Don't really know though |
| 19:08.57 | NightHawkTheSane | gathermate is very nice |
| 19:10.06 | Dewin | hmm, so... |
| 19:10.15 | Dewin | how exactly do draenei death knights exist? |
| 19:10.32 | NightHawkTheSane | the same way any other ones do? |
| 19:10.52 | bleeter | holy shit |
| 19:10.55 | Dewin | The events in the DK questline are somewhat in the past -- before Exodar crashed, I believe. |
| 19:10.59 | bleeter | I got a blue response to my latest moan |
| 19:11.31 | bnovc | i cant imagine how i played without quest helper before |
| 19:11.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Should stop trolling blues |
| 19:11.39 | Dewin | bleeter: Link? :-p |
| 19:12.14 | bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12666299487&sid=1&pageNo=17#325 |
| 19:12.20 | bleeter | CSF OT discussion |
| 19:12.24 | bleeter | of all bloody places |
| 19:12.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Dewin: well, for one, draenei existed beyond the strict context of the exodar :p |
| 19:12.59 | bleeter | mind you, it's the second time that Syndri's asked me to do a simple lookup that they should be more than capable of doing themselves |
| 19:13.09 | bleeter | I should bloody send them a bill for my time and efforts |
| 19:13.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Dewin: second, "timeline" in wow is a not-quite-static concept |
| 19:13.42 | bnovc | do you have to wait till 80 to fly in northrend? |
| 19:13.48 | Dewin | 77. |
| 19:13.51 | Dewin | and 1000 gold |
| 19:14.20 | bnovc | uh |
| 19:14.26 | bnovc | even though i already have flight form? |
| 19:14.58 | Dewin | You need to learn how to fly in the cold weather of Northrend. |
| 19:15.15 | NightHawkTheSane | flight form is just another mount |
| 19:15.19 | Dewin | Despite the trees and grass with no snow covering it, it's even colder than the area around Ironforge! (Well, technically, those gryphons might have CWF too) |
| 19:15.20 | bnovc | cant i just buy a coat? |
| 19:15.28 | bleeter | aka 'stop bloody flying over the top of all the content we create' |
| 19:15.34 | bleeter | ^^ problem with BC |
| 19:15.45 | Dewin | Eh, it wasn't a problem with TBC |
| 19:15.52 | Dewin | just any new flyable content that comes after it |
| 19:15.52 | bleeter | people would avoid lots of content 'coz they'd ding 70 in, say, Nagrand |
| 19:16.11 | Dewin | people will avoid lots of content as soon as they ding 77 in Northrend too |
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| 19:16.22 | bleeter | though, I'm still not sure how that fixes stuff, just makes it easier for toons that hit 70 to continue on into NR |
| 19:16.39 | bleeter | kd3: I wa saying before you d/c'd, it's a .27 kernel, so.. ymmv ;) |
| 19:16.40 | Dewin | They want you to enjoy the actual world for at least 7 levels :) |
| 19:16.58 | kd3 | ya. I'm probably gonna roll back to the last one |
| 19:17.01 | bnovc | most people dont play to enjyo the game anyway |
| 19:17.07 | bnovc | they just want to be 80 faster than others |
| 19:17.15 | Dewin | heh, I already know I won't be 80 any time soon. |
| 19:17.26 | bnovc | im 71.25 so far |
| 19:17.28 | Dewin | Since I've had maybe ~6 hrs total playtime |
| 19:17.29 | bnovc | er 70.25 |
| 19:17.32 | Dewin | My hunter is still 70. |
| 19:17.43 | Dewin | and he's main |
| 19:17.44 | NightHawkTheSane | "most people don't play to enjoy the game"? wtf? are you some kind of idiot? :P |
| 19:17.51 | bnovc | im only going to level with my gf this time since its more fun |
| 19:17.54 | bnovc | im not in a rush anyway |
| 19:18.38 | Dewin | bnovc: That's exactly why my hunter is only 70. |
| 19:18.50 | bnovc | where do i buy the fishing book :\ |
| 19:18.53 | bnovc | thought it was in ashenvale |
| 19:18.55 | bnovc | er cooking |
| 19:19.09 | Anaral | bnovc: your two statements are separate, why can't people enjoy the game while getting to 80 faster than others? |
| 19:19.19 | NightHawkTheSane | how about looking it up on one of many different database sites. |
| 19:19.25 | Dewin | I should log on my warlock and see if I can drum up any business |
| 19:19.26 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Cooking#Advancement |
| 19:19.36 | Dewin | lv30 warlock in Dalaran |
| 19:19.39 | bnovc | NightHawkTheSane: it was more of a rhetorical question... i did look it up :D |
| 19:21.01 | bnovc | Anaral: there probably are people that do enjoy it but i don't know any... the people i know who are speed leveling are just addicted |
| 19:21.20 | bleeter | oO new ventrilo client |
| 19:21.22 | bnovc | i was pretty addicted to arenaing for a while but i'm glad i stopped that |
| 19:22.36 | NightHawkTheSane | bnovc: you should stop making stupid generalizations about how people choose to enjoy the game |
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| 19:25.05 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: People don't enjoy WoW. They're hooked on it like crack cocaine and can't escape. I bet, right now, there's some guy out there sucking dick to support his WoW habit. Congress should DO something. |
| 19:25.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: honestly, i'm playing wow AND sucking dick, right this moment. |
| 19:25.30 | NightHawkTheSane | it's a VISCIOUS CYCLE! |
| 19:25.35 | ScytheBlade1 | .......... |
| 19:25.37 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: I'll be right over. |
| 19:25.43 | NightHawkTheSane | or is that a viscous cycle? >.> |
| 19:25.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Joking or not |
| 19:25.47 | ScytheBlade1 | WTF? |
| 19:25.54 | bleeter | at least nhts is sucking his own |
| 19:25.55 | Lunessa | Totally joking. |
| 19:26.09 | NightHawkTheSane | bleeter: pfft. like hell, i've got a line. |
| 19:28.11 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: Ever seen the movie "Half-Baked"? |
| 19:28.19 | cogwheel | MACRO 16777235 "I Am Murloc" INV_Misc_QuestionMark |
| 19:28.19 | cogwheel | #showtooltip |
| 19:28.19 | cogwheel | /castsequence reset=shift/ctrl/alt Murky, Big Blizzard Bear, Murloc Costume |
| 19:28.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: yeah :) |
| 19:28.24 | cogwheel | erm... |
| 19:28.28 | cogwheel | mis-click |
| 19:28.33 | bleeter | YAY! A WIN |
| 19:28.49 | Lunessa | http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=3914279 |
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| 19:30.13 | bleeter | but once again, it's the GMs doing the CMs job. |
| 19:32.40 | bleeter | interesting side effect of the issue, though |
| 19:33.05 | bleeter | restart time has nothing to do with what they observe as low load time form a week to week point of view |
| 19:33.12 | leethal | how do you add your public key to curseforge? |
| 19:33.16 | leethal | the navigation is pretty messy >< |
| 19:33.49 | leethal | yay found it |
| 19:36.23 | leethal | wow, apart from the navigation, curseforge is pretty neat |
| 19:36.39 | leethal | nice to be able to have the latest revision of your git repo available as a downloadable .zip |
| 19:42.01 | leethal | any curseforge adminz around? approveapproveapproveapprove! \o/ |
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| 19:57.45 | cogwheel | ENOUGH WITH THE GD JENKINS TITLES RAAAAWWWWRRRR!!!! |
| 19:57.49 | cogwheel | </rant> |
| 19:59.47 | mikma | lol |
| 19:59.55 | mikma | also, i found a tpyo :) |
| 20:01.42 | Fisker- | hai cogwheel |
| 20:01.44 | Fisker- | I saw you today |
| 20:01.47 | Fisker- | Did a quest for you |
| 20:01.53 | Fisker- | And you didn't even say hi :( |
| 20:01.57 | cogwheel | "Valiance Expedition" -> "Valiant Sex Position" |
| 20:02.06 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/test/WoWScrnShot_111508_215957.jpg <- lookie at the buff mouseovered |
| 20:02.19 | Lunessa | Hiya Cog. |
| 20:02.20 | cogwheel | Fisker-: ...? |
| 20:02.25 | cogwheel | hai Lunessa |
| 20:02.32 | Fisker- | Specialist Cogwheel, etc. |
| 20:03.03 | cogwheel | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=28284#comments |
| 20:03.04 | Fisker- | y so srs :( |
| 20:03.08 | cogwheel | :P |
| 20:03.27 | Lunessa | cogwheel: I have the title, but I only use it for durations < 3 mins, mostly for jokes. The rest of the time I'm "Unkle, Champion of the Narru." |
| 20:03.29 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: I replied to my own post on wowhead =[ |
| 20:04.09 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=28374#comments |
| 20:04.16 | cogwheel | ScytheBlade1: <3 |
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| 20:04.43 | Fisker- | qq moar |
| 20:04.50 | cogwheel | queuequeue moar |
| 20:04.52 | ScytheBlade1 | "Sadly." |
| 20:05.06 | cogwheel | moo |
| 20:05.14 | cogwheel | wowhead added body click popup ad grrr |
| 20:05.17 | haste | quest quest more |
| 20:05.59 | Xiro | why does everyone choose wowhead over thottbot? I prefer thottbot myself |
| 20:06.21 | cogwheel | simpler interface, less redundant /incorrect data |
| 20:06.23 | cogwheel | imo |
| 20:06.27 | Lunessa | I like WoWHead's design/layout better. |
| 20:06.37 | cogwheel | i use thott to check whether things are on gcd though |
| 20:06.58 | Lunessa | And Thott still has lots of bad data in it's database for items/quests. |
| 20:06.58 | Xiro | thottbot is becoming better about accuracy |
| 20:07.16 | keias | Hard to make a switch just because another is catching up |
| 20:07.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Xiro: "becoming" says nothing, "is" is what matters. Then you add the piles of features, simplicity, and in general -far- less spam |
| 20:09.11 | Lunessa | WoWHead is slick. Thott was first, but it's an early blackberry compared to WoWHead's iPhone 3G. |
| 20:09.15 | Xiro | meh, wowhead is still a lesser product imo |
| 20:09.33 | Xiro | they've been know to do shady business, 'steal' features |
| 20:09.37 | mikma | oh...my...god |
| 20:09.48 | mikma | people are actually whining that corpse dust costs too much |
| 20:10.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Xiro: shady business? stolen features? Both are new to me |
| 20:10.17 | haste | I use wowhead it because it's TONS faster :p |
| 20:10.18 | Xiro | but that's just my personal opinion |
| 20:10.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Do you have any examples? |
| 20:10.35 | keias | How can shady business and stolen features be opinions? lol |
| 20:11.35 | NightHawkTheSane | keias: well, ethics is a matter of opinion. |
| 20:11.57 | keias | True enough. |
| 20:12.08 | Xiro | http://thottbot.com/power was thottbot first |
| 20:12.19 | cogwheel | so? |
| 20:12.21 | cogwheel | did they patent it? |
| 20:12.22 | Xiro | but that's not really significant.. bad example |
| 20:12.22 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 20:12.29 | cogwheel | GUIs were xerox first |
| 20:12.30 | ScytheBlade1 | That's... that's... so not even a little bit unique |
| 20:12.43 | cogwheel | should wow not be allowed to make one? |
| 20:12.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Not that you're wrong, but |
| 20:12.54 | haste | providing APIs for others is just a nice action |
| 20:13.03 | haste | complaining about "other" doing it first is kinda, odd |
| 20:13.42 | Xiro | I really can't 'prove' what was taken... but knowing the backend of thottbot, I can tell you they have a lot of the _exact_ code on wowhead before it was on thottbot. |
| 20:14.01 | ScytheBlade1 | ....... |
| 20:14.06 | ScytheBlade1 | So code thieft |
| 20:14.28 | ScytheBlade1 | More or less someone hacked thott, stole the code, and made wowhead with it? |
| 20:14.37 | Xiro | basically, I should have kept that comment to myself... My whole point though was just trying to figure out why people preferred wowhead |
| 20:14.57 | cbreak | wowhead has a cleaner UI |
| 20:15.05 | haste | and it's faster (at least here) |
| 20:15.08 | bleeter | I R WINNAR IZ CONFIRMED> http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12666299487&postId=126600302770&sid=1#349 |
| 20:15.16 | NightHawkTheSane | and it's less full of idiot commenters. |
| 20:15.23 | NightHawkTheSane | and it's better organized. |
| 20:15.31 | NightHawkTheSane | and it's a less sucktacular site. |
| 20:15.41 | cbreak | NightHawkTheSane: did you know thottbott is clearly hunter loot? |
| 20:16.37 | mikma | bleeter: what's the whole idea of that thread? |
| 20:17.14 | bleeter | mikma: the CSF OT thread? Regular posters to the CSF (the US GM forum) have one thread designated at any one time to talk about non-forum related stuff |
| 20:17.44 | bleeter | the idea being, keep all OT from regulars in one spot to make everyone's life (GMs, and people helping other players) easier |
| 20:18.06 | mikma | and what's the idea of the post you linked? |
| 20:18.10 | bleeter | so yeah, bizarre place to get the issue 'fixed' after bitching everywhere else on the forums for.. 4 weeks |
| 20:18.33 | bleeter | mikma: since Oceanic servers got switched to summertime, our scheduled restarts have gone from 5AM to 7AM |
| 20:19.00 | bleeter | aka 'some folks inside Blizz need to learn timezone differences' |
| 20:19.36 | bleeter | Oceanic timezone foo has been bugged on and off from both code base and operational base point of view for 12+ months |
| 20:23.33 | zenzelezz | is phasing (or whatever it was called) already in WoW/WotLK? |
| 20:23.46 | NightHawkTheSane | "already"? |
| 20:23.50 | NightHawkTheSane | er... yes? |
| 20:24.16 | zenzelezz | I didn't remember when it was scheduled for, release or some other time :-) |
| 20:24.19 | Tekkub | uhm no, they figured they'd put that big mechanic is they use everywhere in the first patch |
| 20:24.30 | NightHawkTheSane | zenzelezz: it's used very extensively :P |
| 20:24.54 | zenzelezz | NightHawkTheSane: didn't see a situation where it seemed blatantly obvious until now, which was why I asked |
| 20:25.13 | NightHawkTheSane | where is "now"? out of curiosity? |
| 20:25.14 | bleeter | woohoo SNOW |
| 20:25.36 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: "Yes, I'm still ranting at the API guys about privacy 'coz of my stalker... maybe one day I might even get that one solved. :/"? |
| 20:25.36 | zenzelezz | NightHawkTheSane: Dragonblight, the wrath gate part |
| 20:25.53 | NightHawkTheSane | zenzelezz: there's a number of places it's used before then |
| 20:26.24 | zenzelezz | NightHawkTheSane: didn't contend that; just said I hadn't noticed any |
| 20:26.53 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, im just saying. :) plus the wrath gate bit is fairly early on in in the overall content |
| 20:27.00 | zenzelezz | probably obvious that I'm not very perceptive :) |
| 20:27.57 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: ask me when I'm in a better mood |
| 20:28.01 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 20:28.14 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm kinda glad tbh, I wasn't 100% sure if I wanted an answer ;) |
| 20:30.08 | bleeter | basically, someone's 'tracking' me in game, and prolly here, and sending me hate emails when I log in. I'm fairly certain I know who it is, but /ignore is pointless as (a) they can still see me via the API/friends list (b) I can't /ignore their account and have them never see me. |
| 20:30.28 | bleeter | the only thing I can do is involve the aussie feds,interpol and the fbi |
| 20:30.37 | Shirik|Ecole | you sure blizzard can't do anything about it? |
| 20:30.50 | Shirik|Ecole | surely there's some way they can find out who has you friended |
| 20:30.55 | zenzelezz | bleeter: how did someone develop such an unlove for you? |
| 20:31.27 | bleeter | Shirik|Ecole: what could blizz do to folks who have me as a /friend? they do nothing in game to warrant GM attention |
| 20:31.27 | NightHawkTheSane | zenzelezz: well its bleeter, so more like 'what did bleeter do this time' ;) |
| 20:31.44 | Shirik|Ecole | bleeter: Did you even bother to ask and explain your situation? |
| 20:31.44 | zenzelezz | NightHawkTheSane: yeah, I was being diplomatic =D |
| 20:32.05 | Shirik|Ecole | maybe they can unfriend, etc. |
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| 20:33.15 | kd3 | sigh |
| 20:33.23 | kd3 | had to resort to getting the tarball from nvidia |
| 20:33.39 | bleeter | couldn't rebuild the rpmfusion akmod? |
| 20:34.42 | kd3 | was trying to stick to precompiled, but they didn't have matching library/kmod versions for the last 2.6.26 kernel |
| 20:35.49 | Lunessa | kd3: Every time I contemplate making the switch to Linux, your daily rants convince me to wait another year. |
| 20:36.32 | bleeter | akmods are kernel mods that dynamically recompile when you boot a new kernel |
| 20:37.03 | kd3 | which would probably make things easier |
| 20:37.05 | bleeter | personally never tried it, just read the theory. install akmod, and boot |
| 20:37.12 | kd3 | and wtf... it's 3:30 and there's already a queue |
| 20:37.36 | bleeter | barthilas (oceanic) is showing Full at 7AM ;) |
| 20:38.11 | bleeter | Shirik|Ecole: problem is, providing 'proof'. All I have is a bunch of hotmail/ymail/gmail abuse (no source IP) and some tor based IRC abuse |
| 20:38.38 | bleeter | Shirik|Ecole: based on other ingame abuse issues, I doubt they'd /unfriend everyone who has me friended just on my request |
| 20:38.54 | bleeter | and the way I'd get that proof... see above re feds/interpol etc. |
| 20:39.23 | Lunessa | bleeter: Sorry to hear that man. |
| 20:39.45 | bleeter | and if the stalker is real smart, they're using API lookups in a /script and not the /friend |
| 20:39.56 | bleeter | so Blizz couldn't even /unfriend if they tried |
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| 20:42.40 | bleeter | the only solution is a proper privacy API that conforms to industry best practice |
| 20:42.55 | bleeter | and not something that makes the old Y!IM privacy look stellar |
| 20:44.45 | ScytheBlade1 | err:ntdll:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection section 0x189c28 "rtl.c: RTL_RWLOCK.rtlCS" wait timed out in thread 0033, blocked by 0000, retrying (60 sec) |
| 20:44.52 | ScytheBlade1 | mmm, nothing quite like wine |
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| 20:51.41 | Lunessa | Red, red wine? |
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| 20:56.48 | cogwheel | make me feel so fine |
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| 20:59.43 | zenzelezz | okay, "Doing Your Duty" is one weird quest... |
| 20:59.57 | Syzgyn | Yaay 77, I missed my dragon |
| 21:00.30 | Fisker- | haste |
| 21:04.09 | AbsoRayne | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:05.32 | Lunessa | There's usually a titanium node near that spot. |
| 21:06.01 | AbsoRayne | yeah |
| 21:06.04 | AbsoRayne | ive found a ton |
| 21:06.13 | haste | Fisker- |
| 21:07.09 | Lunessa | I spent a LOT of time mining in that zone during alpha and beta. Haven't been yet though. Taking it easy this time and just enjoying things. |
| 21:07.46 | AbsoRayne | Im just trying hard to max out my blacksmithing by 80 |
| 21:07.55 | AbsoRayne | Im drooling all over Titansteel Shield Wall |
| 21:08.56 | bleeter | toot toot chugga chugga big red car |
| 21:09.20 | bleeter | woots! snow in November! |
| 21:09.43 | Lunessa | AbsoRayne: I had zero trouble getting smithing to max before 80. The hard part was getting all the titansteel made for my level 80 mace. |
| 21:10.34 | AbsoRayne | yeah, ive already got one bar made |
| 21:10.36 | AbsoRayne | Did it today |
| 21:10.38 | AbsoRayne | 2 more to go |
| 21:11.07 | cogwheel | man... i only have one piece of gear that didn't get an upgrade in my first round of northrend quests... |
| 21:11.13 | Lunessa | It makes me want to level my warrior alt just so I canhave two toons with a cooldown for the transmute. |
| 21:11.28 | AbsoRayne | cogwheel: Oh hai, I was blowing kisses to your NPC |
| 21:11.35 | AbsoRayne | But you didnt return any |
| 21:11.38 | AbsoRayne | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:11.41 | cogwheel | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=28284#comments |
| 21:11.44 | Lunessa | cogwheel: I'm finding surprisingly more gear upgrades than I envisioned. |
| 21:12.05 | Lunessa | Especially based on my beta experiences. |
| 21:12.38 | bleeter | hmm, the new zepp masters can't tell you where the zepps are? |
| 21:12.40 | AbsoRayne | Ive yet to replace any of my t5/6 |
| 21:12.44 | AbsoRayne | Pieces have come CLOSE |
| 21:12.49 | AbsoRayne | but no replacements yet |
| 21:13.32 | AbsoRayne | also, \o/ for leveling Prot |
| 21:13.52 | Lunessa | Rayne - I'm mostly in t4/SSO bage gear/crafted epics. I was "not leet" |
| 21:14.24 | cogwheel | my best piece of gear is Sergeant's Heavy Cloak |
| 21:14.33 | Lunessa | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kirin+Tor&n=Unkle |
| 21:14.39 | cogwheel | Next best was a few pieces of Grand Marshal's plate |
| 21:15.05 | Lunessa | I keep going back to the Ogri'la tinket becase, well... it pwns. |
| 21:15.57 | Lunessa | But I picked up a couple of WotLK blues that will be nice replacements for some gear once I enchant them. |
| 21:15.58 | NightHawkTheSane | the +weapon damage one? |
| 21:16.01 | Lunessa | Yeah. |
| 21:16.08 | |pez| | I've learned something today, bringing an extra bow to an instance, is sometimes a good idea! |
| 21:16.21 | NightHawkTheSane | the 1m CD on that is really nice, but i was never hugely impressed with it, even on my druid. |
| 21:16.51 | cogwheel | omg bladestorm kicks ass |
| 21:16.54 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: I mean the Crystal Forged Trinket. Which is nice for a dual-weilder. |
| 21:17.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: yeah, thats what i mean |
| 21:17.59 | Lunessa | It's really good for me, but I think it'll be retiring when I get some higher-end stuff. |
| 21:18.12 | NightHawkTheSane | what level are you now? |
| 21:18.17 | cogwheel | i took down a group of 5 wooly rhinos in about 5 secs |
| 21:18.24 | cogwheel | and was at ~95% health |
| 21:18.31 | Lunessa | 71. I'll hit 72 in about 30 mins after I get home from work. |
| 21:18.34 | NightHawkTheSane | honestly, my melee theorycrafting is pretty outdated, but i've found a couple nice melee trinkets already |
| 21:18.53 | NightHawkTheSane | ahh, yeah, there's a few nice blue trinkets you get as quest rewards that i thought were rather nice |
| 21:19.09 | Lunessa | The one from the Scalawag quests are ... nice. |
| 21:19.45 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i just did those |
| 21:20.00 | Lunessa | Also, I'm a trinket junkie. I keep them all around, even if I don't use them anymore. I have something like ... 36 trinkets in the bank. |
| 21:20.17 | NightHawkTheSane | there's two actually, one from scalawag quests and one from the kalu'ak followups |
| 21:21.03 | Lunessa | Yeah, I decided to do the Howling Fjord quests first since I like the zone more. Once I finish it, I'll go do boring tundra. |
| 21:21.19 | NightHawkTheSane | *nod* I did BT first, finishing up HF now |
| 21:21.39 | Lunessa | I did it multiple ways during beta. |
| 21:21.39 | NightHawkTheSane | I really like the HF zone and the quests are neat, but BT flows so much nier |
| 21:21.41 | NightHawkTheSane | nicer. |
| 21:21.45 | Lunessa | .... er, that sounds dirty. |
| 21:21.53 | |pez| | I'm in Boring Tundra ;__; I won't switch to HF though. I like finishing up on a zone as much as possible. |
| 21:22.12 | Tem | I didn't like Boring Tundra either |
| 21:22.28 | Tem | but the dps plate itemization is way better there than in HF for DKs |
| 21:22.34 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 21:22.42 | Lunessa | |pez|: By doing Borean Tundra, Howling Fjord and some Dragonblight I hit 80 pretty easily. |
| 21:23.17 | Tem | you guys see that nihilum/skgaming already killed KT, Malygos and Sar |
| 21:23.20 | Lunessa | I did a lot of quests at "maxLevel" during beta. |
| 21:23.45 | Tem | yeah, I hit 80 before I did anything in Storm peaks or Icecrown |
| 21:23.56 | Tem | and I went in at 68! |
| 21:24.07 | Lunessa | Good for them. I hope they're going to be bored in 3 months. :P And then Tem can x-fer to tank for me. |
| 21:24.32 | Tem | Lunessa, you have a guild somewhere? |
| 21:24.38 | Tem | I'll transfer to be the MT |
| 21:24.50 | mikma | ... |
| 21:24.50 | Tem | I don't want to lead a guild |
| 21:24.51 | Lunessa | You wouldn't like these guys. WAY too casual. |
| 21:25.04 | Tem | but it seems I have to on my server if I want to tank |
| 21:25.12 | Tem | it seems that my own guild is going to stick me as dps |
| 21:25.19 | mikma | how in the hell do you people already have lvl80 :D |
| 21:25.25 | Tem | I don't |
| 21:25.28 | Tem | my DK is level 63 |
| 21:25.34 | Tem | I've done 1 level per day |
| 21:25.34 | Lunessa | But I'm considering starting a new guild because, well... all the usual reasons someone starts one. |
| 21:25.44 | Tem | I might get 2 levels today |
| 21:25.49 | Tem | it depends on how I feel later |
| 21:26.02 | mikma | awesomly boring to level alone |
| 21:26.05 | Tem | first level 80 on my realm happened earlier while I was online |
| 21:26.08 | Tem | I disagree |
| 21:26.09 | Lunessa | Yeah, Tem... You're more hardcore than I am. |
| 21:26.23 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: honestly, i dont always like leveling with a group, they're usually slower than me |
| 21:26.25 | Tem | leveling alone is my preferred method |
| 21:26.31 | ZorbaTHut | I saw the achievement for realm-first 450 Blacksmithing on my server late yesterday |
| 21:26.38 | ZorbaTHut | I can only imagine how expensive that must have been |
| 21:26.40 | Tem | Lunessa, I've been hella casual since LK |
| 21:26.42 | Lunessa | And on my RP server, I'm accounted pretty hardcore about play time, but not accomplishment in the raiding scene. |
| 21:27.03 | Tem | I've only played like 7 hours since Wednesday night |
| 21:27.08 | Lunessa | Yeah, I just liked having you as a tank in beta. Rock solid and good attitude. |
| 21:27.23 | Tem | I love tanking |
| 21:27.24 | Lunessa | Fun time. |
| 21:27.30 | Tem | and I don't get discouraged by wipes |
| 21:27.46 | Tem | (unless the reason for them is PEOPLE NOT KILLING THEIR GODDAMN GHOSTS) |
| 21:27.58 | ZorbaTHut | tem, <3 |
| 21:28.03 | Lunessa | If I start a guild, how would you feel about playing on a "terribad, lol-RP" server? |
| 21:28.04 | ZorbaTHut | man I'm so tired of people giving up after two wipes |
| 21:28.13 | Tem | not terribly bad |
| 21:28.32 | Tem | ZorbaTHut, as long as we make progress every wipe, what more can you ask for? |
| 21:28.35 | ZorbaTHut | it's a new boss, none of us have fought them before, I'm wearing plate, you're wearing cloth, stop griping about wipes. |
| 21:28.40 | mikma | tem: BT wipe much? ;) |
| 21:28.55 | Tem | mikma, a few times... |
| 21:29.04 | ZorbaTHut | tem, I had someone pull a hissy fit and leave a Kara run after we wiped twice on Mirkblood |
| 21:29.06 | mikma | <2327> <+Tem> (unless the reason for them is PEOPLE NOT KILLING THEIR GODDAMN GHOSTS) |
| 21:29.10 | ZorbaTHut | took three of his friends with him too |
| 21:29.11 | mikma | so awesome :D |
| 21:29.19 | mikma | "where did all these ghosts come from?" |
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| 21:29.40 | Tem | ZorbaTHut, my guild gave up on felmyst after only a few attempts because people couldn't avoid the "YOU DIE NOW" explosions |
| 21:29.51 | Tem | we never even went back after the nerf |
| 21:29.52 | Lunessa | I just like to run with people who can do the instances in WotLK in 30 - 45 minutes AS DESIGNED. |
| 21:30.04 | Tem | I want to raid |
| 21:30.06 | ZorbaTHut | that just means you need more practice or fewer morons |
| 21:30.09 | Tem | and I want to raid as a tank |
| 21:30.16 | Tem | ZorbaTHut, more practice |
| 21:30.22 | Tem | I left the guild that had too many morons |
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| 21:30.35 | Tem | (i.e. the ones who couldn't kill their ghosts) |
| 21:30.41 | ZorbaTHut | I'm thinking of trying to start a raiding guild on my server |
| 21:30.50 | Tem | (same idiots who couldn't kill their inner demons in SSC, /sigh) |
| 21:30.56 | ZorbaTHut | there's basically one competent guild, and it's largely a PvP guild, but there's a bunch of people who are clearly looking for good guilds |
| 21:30.59 | foxlit | "!-- ValueClick Media 468x60 and 728x90 Banner CODE for mmointerface.com FIXED INT-->" is still on WoWI |
| 21:31.07 | foxlit | You're getting it from one of the ad servers. |
| 21:31.07 | NightHawkTheSane | it always made me cry when a mage failed to kill their demon |
| 21:31.13 | mikma | tem: healers had hard time with those nutsacks :O |
| 21:31.17 | Tem | Hi |
| 21:31.18 | Tem | I'm a healer |
| 21:31.20 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: not after it was nerfed to hell |
| 21:31.22 | Tem | I killed mine just fine |
| 21:31.35 | Lunessa | I really don't want to x-fer myself - too many people on the server I don't want to leave behind - people who would find an x-fer impossible. |
| 21:31.39 | mikma | nighthawkthesane: ya, after 3.0 it might have been piss-easy |
| 21:31.45 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: no, before then |
| 21:31.57 | Tem | I'm sort of ambivilant about an xfer atm |
| 21:32.03 | NightHawkTheSane | with the 1/3 +heal as +dmg change, and made them vulnerable to holy/nature/arcnae |
| 21:32.05 | ZorbaTHut | I wish they'd do like a weekly free xfer or something |
| 21:32.11 | ZorbaTHut | maybe with gold bounties for transferring to a less-populated server |
| 21:32.14 | Tem | I have a couple people that I wouldn't really want to leave behind |
| 21:32.23 | AbsoRayne | blah |
| 21:32.28 | ZorbaTHut | connect it to raid lockouts |
| 21:32.42 | foxlit | ie from http://s.wowinterface.com/code/728x90.html |
| 21:32.48 | AbsoRayne | Keep yawnin |
| 21:32.51 | Tem | but they're all either able to transfer or the douchebags telling me I probably won't have a raid spot |
| 21:33.10 | Tem | foxlit, ping Dolby |
| 21:33.18 | foxlit | Tem, you just did :) |
| 21:33.22 | Tem | I know =P |
| 21:33.33 | Lunessa | That's the boat I'm in. A relative, a local friend who followed me here 3 years ago, and several friends/guildmates who wouldn't move just 'cause I did. |
| 21:33.55 | Tem | I've got a couple RL friends on my server |
| 21:34.03 | Tem | but I could probably convince them to transfer |
| 21:34.16 | Tem | I can't move my mage over |
| 21:34.24 | Tem | because she's GM of my old guild |
| 21:34.27 | Tem | and she WILL |
| 21:34.28 | Tem | NOT |
| 21:34.29 | Tem | EVER |
| 21:34.32 | Tem | leave it |
| 21:34.49 | Tem | unlike the traitors who left at BC launch |
| 21:34.58 | Lunessa | *cough* |
| 21:35.37 | Tem | hmm |
| 21:35.44 | Tem | so I have this movie in 1080p |
| 21:35.57 | Tem | and it appears that whatever decoder I have is having a hard time decoding it |
| 21:36.03 | Tem | such that I'm getting a low framerate |
| 21:36.09 | Tem | and missing about every other sub |
| 21:36.09 | Lunessa | I'm looking at the concept of a "light schedule" raiding guild - "Official" raids like 2 days a week - focusing on 10 man tracks. |
| 21:37.27 | Lunessa | And filling it with people who are "Casual play time, but dedicated to successful play" |
| 21:37.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: man, if i wasn't really invested in my horde characters i'd almost roll and help with that ;) |
| 21:38.14 | Tem | I swing back and forth between what you're describing and a "ZOMG I MUST RAID EVERY DAY" |
| 21:38.21 | Lunessa | That's my issue with a switch to horde. 4 level 70 or 70+ allaince toons. |
| 21:38.45 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah. i've got 4 horde ~70+ toons :\ |
| 21:38.48 | Tem | any ideas for improving the quality of this movie? |
| 21:38.53 | Tem | I can't watch it like this |
| 21:39.06 | Lunessa | Tem - what's the movie's file format? |
| 21:39.12 | Tem | matroska |
| 21:39.20 | Tem | checking now to find out what encoding |
| 21:39.44 | haste | Tem: what player do you use? |
| 21:39.53 | Tem | mplayer |
| 21:39.55 | haste | Tem: cccp+mpc or mplayer is usually a sure hit :p |
| 21:39.57 | Tem | mpc* |
| 21:40.03 | ZorbaTHut | I kind of wish they'd let us switch races someday also |
| 21:40.07 | Tem | pretty sure I'm running cccp |
| 21:40.14 | haste | tried using a different vo on mplayer? |
| 21:40.42 | Tem | not really using mplayer |
| 21:40.47 | Tem | I'm in windows |
| 21:40.55 | haste | you can use mplayer on windows also :p |
| 21:40.59 | Tem | oro? |
| 21:41.38 | haste | http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=138725 for example |
| 21:41.41 | Lunessa | Well, if you have or x-fer a 55+ you could roll opposite faction DKs... |
| 21:42.05 | Lunessa | Or you could get someone to "Recruit a Friend" you. |
| 21:42.33 | NightHawkTheSane | i actually do have a 70 alliance warrior... >.> |
| 21:42.45 | Tem | hey, vlc plays it pretty well |
| 21:43.00 | Tem | but the subtitle track went to hell |
| 21:43.15 | Tem | yay for vlc not supporting proper sub formats |
| 21:46.30 | Lunessa | I have like a 35 or 36 horde rogue somewhere, but... well, I haven't played them in forever. |
| 21:47.41 | Tem | ZorbaTHut, if they ever let us switch races, my mage becomes undead on the spot |
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| 21:52.23 | Tem | haste, mplayer craps itself in vista |
| 21:52.36 | Tem | however, reinstalling cccp fixed my performance issue in mpc |
| 21:52.44 | haste | no it doesn't D: |
| 21:53.36 | Tem | it causes vista to turn off aero |
| 21:54.00 | Tem | then, after making the one feature of vista that I like turn to ugly crap, it just sits there eating memory for 20-30 seconds |
| 21:54.13 | Tem | then, it starts to play the sound of the movie with no video |
| 21:54.22 | Tem | well, that's not fair, it tries to show the video |
| 21:54.45 | Tem | but I'm fairly certain that a giant black screen with a green square is what I should be seeing |
| 21:55.07 | haste | I know of at least one person using mplayer on vista, oh well :p |
| 21:55.18 | haste | he compiles it himself also tho' |
| 21:55.26 | Tem | that's probably some of it |
| 21:55.33 | haste | so there might be some patch/workaround to it |
| 21:55.56 | digmouse | which font link does the number showing in CharacterFrame use? trying setting up it in fontain but unable to make the stat number smaller |
| 21:59.52 | Lunessa | got sick of trying to manually manage Stormstrike and Lava Lash while using the right shocks. Made Stormstrike and Lava Lash into a /castsequence. Turns out the macro system is better at DPSing than I was. |
| 22:01.40 | zenzelezz | Lunessa: never send a human to do a machine's job |
| 22:01.51 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: Indeedy. |
| 22:02.11 | Lunessa | Now I mash 2 buttons and the occasional special use ability .. and I play much better. :) |
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| 22:11.07 | mikma | tem: what's the "grey aoe skill" DK has? hands and stuff are coming out of the ground :D |
| 22:11.42 | kd3 | whee, "Transfer Aborted: instance is full" |
| 22:13.32 | Lunessa | kd3: WHEE! Maybe I should go to a movie tonight instead of playing WoW. |
| 22:13.39 | foxlit | That's Desecration |
| 22:14.08 | foxlit | talent on top of plague strike |
| 22:14.43 | mikma | lol nice |
| 22:15.19 | foxlit | Doesn't actually cause damage. |
| 22:15.28 | Lunessa | I rolled my DK the other night, watched the intro, and logged out. Now I ned to figure out which direction I plan to take him in. |
| 22:17.03 | mikma | onholy has increased mountspeed :P |
| 22:19.24 | foxlit | I think regardless of what tree you end up picking, you're going to be happy |
| 22:20.56 | Tem | mikma, that's an unholy talent |
| 22:20.58 | Tem | desecration |
| 22:21.11 | Tem | when standing on the desecrated ground, the DK gets +5% damage |
| 22:21.16 | Lunessa | foxlit: I know, I tooled around on on in beta for a while. |
| 22:21.21 | Tem | and enemies on the terrain get -50% movement speed |
| 22:22.25 | foxlit | Wonder why they didn't make every pet spell autocastable |
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| 22:23.48 | foxlit | Seems rather arbitrary |
| 22:27.53 | zenzelezz | running around Dalaran, I almost can't fight the urge to /1 is there a mailbox anywhere? |
| 22:28.30 | foxlit | point being that there are too many? |
| 22:28.54 | zenzelezz | not too many, just more than I had expected. It's great in my opinion =) |
| 22:32.20 | foxlit | Anyone got more opie bug reports from northrend? :) |
| 22:36.45 | zenzelezz | that reminds me, need to move some abilities to oPie now that I actually use them |
| 22:37.20 | foxlit | Hm, wonder which abilities |
| 22:37.35 | zenzelezz | mostly tradeskills |
| 22:37.48 | foxlit | Should work by default? |
| 22:38.12 | zenzelezz | I messed around with the settings when I was trying the addon out :) |
| 22:38.51 | foxlit | I'd recommend the defaults button, but I have a feeling it wipes a little too much |
| 22:39.25 | End | why, does it just nil out everything or something? |
| 22:39.36 | zenzelezz | wouldn't matter, I haven't been using them for a while; was waiting for WotLK before I set up the addon |
| 22:39.46 | zenzelezz | so I didn't remember there was a defaults button :-p |
| 22:40.03 | foxlit | No, End, it tries to restore the original settings. |
| 22:40.15 | End | ah |
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| 22:40.26 | foxlit | Unfortunately, options semantics only give "default this page" or "default all pages" |
| 22:40.43 | foxlit | And I have too much stuff exposed on every page. |
| 22:41.23 | kd3 | rofl. they left "Demoralizing Mmmrrrggglll" in the game |
| 22:41.37 | Lunessa | foxlit: You should put things like Smelting on the tradeskills ring. |
| 22:42.14 | foxlit | along with disenchant, prospect et al? |
| 22:42.28 | End | disenchant and prospecting might not make much sense |
| 22:42.31 | End | but smelting would |
| 22:42.36 | End | since it's an actual tradeskill window |
| 22:42.37 | Lunessa | No, those don't open a window like smelting does. |
| 22:43.00 | End | (although you can't link smelting, interestingly enough) |
| 22:43.07 | Lunessa | And I STILL can't raid mark with it. |
| 22:43.29 | foxlit | oh; last version? |
| 22:43.35 | Lunessa | Wrath Beta 6 |
| 22:44.08 | Lunessa | Bah, now I want to go check my machine at home (is at work) |
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| 22:47.48 | foxlit | Theoretically, it works |
| 22:48.45 | foxlit | (hooking SetRaidTarget with print produces expected results) |
| 22:49.49 | foxlit | but meh, work on a saturday? |
| 22:50.02 | |pez| | Strand of the ancients, awesomesauce! :D |
| 22:51.03 | Lunessa | foxlit: Originally I worked every sat, now it's just once a month. |
| 22:51.48 | foxlit | What sort of slavery? :) |
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| 22:54.11 | Lunessa | I work for a University. |
| 22:54.22 | Lunessa | in IT. |
| 22:55.19 | zenzelezz | Lunessa puts the IT in UniversITy |
| 22:55.48 | Corrodias | clever |
| 22:56.06 | zenzelezz | I wouldn't call it clever |
| 22:56.13 | Lunessa | Haha... We have these old flyers that say Supporting U through Technology. I point out that it's a stupid slogan, considering we're an institution of higher learning. |
| 22:57.09 | zenzelezz | [Guild] [...]: in AV 65 death knights 14 other |
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| 23:00.22 | |pez| | zenzelezz, sweet XD |
| 23:03.13 | Proditor | hey, does any1 here have experience with fetching armory data using php? |
| 23:03.29 | Proditor | not really a ui question but I didnt know where to ask ;) |
| 23:03.41 | Lunessa | ok, I'm out. Later guys. |
| 23:03.43 | ScytheBlade1 | It's just like any other web request |
| 23:03.47 | foxlit | file_get_contents('http://evil.com') |
| 23:07.47 | zenzelezz | probably want suppress errors (with @) in case it somehow fails |
| 23:08.06 | zenzelezz | at least if it's being displayed somewhere |
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| 23:27.45 | kd3 | whee. hf/bt done... off to DB |
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| 23:31.52 | Tem | . . . |
| 23:31.56 | Tem | laaaaaame |
| 23:33.32 | Tem | I hope I never watch another anime that chooses to end (or not end) this way |
| 23:33.49 | Tem | the art was incredibly well done |
| 23:33.53 | Tem | but there's only half a story :( |
| 23:34.01 | Corrodias | heheh |
| 23:34.09 | Corrodias | good luck finding any |
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| 23:35.29 | Tem | I know looking for anime with reasonable endings is a wasted effort |
| 23:35.33 | Tem | but there's not even an ending here |
| 23:35.38 | Tem | it just... ends |
| 23:35.45 | foxlit | What's "here"? |
| 23:35.57 | Tem | the main character is like "yeah, I'm depressed. I quit my job. -- END" |
| 23:36.08 | Tem | 5 centimeters per second |
| 23:36.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Could anyone help me out real quick? Just a quick favor: lua up a button that I can click in combat to do something, that has a keybinding |
| 23:36.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Any spell any "do something" etc |
| 23:36.59 | foxlit | secureactionbuttomtemplate and setbindingclick, go |
| 23:37.06 | foxlit | s/om/on/ |
| 23:37.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah that's about as much as I know :P |
| 23:37.19 | foxlit | That's about as much as you need to know :) |
| 23:38.15 | Tem | CreateFrame("Button","SbosButton","UIparent","SecureActionButtonTemplate,ActionBarButtonTemplate"):SetPoint("CENTER") |
| 23:38.28 | Tem | SbosButton:SetAttribute("type","spell") |
| 23:38.40 | Tem | SbosButton:SetAttribute("spell","Teleport: Dalaran") |
| 23:38.44 | ScytheBlade1 | This is why Tem is awesome |
| 23:39.02 | Tem | see if it works first |
| 23:39.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Wouldn't I need to :SetTexture + Size? |
| 23:39.40 | Tem | ActionBarButtonTemplate should do that for you |
| 23:40.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Didn't do the texture, and it threw an error when clicked |
| 23:40.49 | ScytheBlade1 | But that did indeed start casting |
| 23:41.59 | leethal_ | are there any libs around for getting the spec of a player? Say, if it's a priest, know if it's 'holy', 'disc', or 'shadow' |
| 23:42.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Thanks, Tem |
| 23:42.11 | Tem | np |
| 23:45.54 | Tem | ScytheBlade1, SbosButtonNormalTexture:SetTexture(select(3,GetSpellInfo("Teleport: Dalaran"))) |
| 23:46.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Tem: yeah, I can do that as needed |
