| 00:01.53 | bleeter | http://www.google.com/mail/help/videochat/learnmore.html |
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| 00:04.34 | Dewin | so... apparently Gamestop is starting the wotlk launch at 10PM |
| 00:04.36 | Dewin | wednesday night |
| 00:04.56 | Dewin | Can't actually get it and leave until after midnight, but... yeah |
| 00:05.03 | Dewin | <-- just got the automated call |
| 00:05.04 | Neuro_Medivh | but they aren't selling them till midnight htough |
| 00:05.12 | Dewin | technically that's not true |
| 00:05.19 | cbreak | australians will be able to play earlier than americans? :) |
| 00:05.25 | Dewin | prior to midnight, they'll go in and process the transaction |
| 00:05.26 | Neuro_Medivh | no |
| 00:05.29 | cbreak | lame. |
| 00:05.44 | cbreak | europeans will be, and we're after them in the time line. |
| 00:05.45 | Dewin | so once you've paid, you'll just wait until midnight and they'll be like "Here!" |
| 00:05.45 | smcn | go figure the nearest 7/11 is the only one in the U.S. obeying the street date |
| 00:05.56 | smcn | but at least ehy're selling at midnight |
| 00:06.02 | Dewin | smcn: How do you know? :) |
| 00:06.10 | Neuro_Medivh | the 7-11s near here don't even carry video game |
| 00:06.22 | Dewin | That one picture I saw the other day doesn't say/confirm anything ;) |
| 00:07.19 | Gnarfoz | fucking 7/11 |
| 00:07.28 | Gnarfoz | why aren't there 7/11's in Germany >_< |
| 00:07.34 | ajmitch | Dewin: sounds identical to what I was told here (except thursday night, NZ) |
| 00:07.51 | Dewin | ajmitch: Did "Ashley" call you? |
| 00:08.03 | ajmitch | no, I walked into the local EB games & talked to someone |
| 00:08.07 | Dewin | Oh. |
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| 00:08.13 | Dewin | Automated call from their reservation system |
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| 00:08.21 | Dewin | I feel really, really sorry for the girl who had to record it lol |
| 00:08.22 | ajmitch | nothing automated, but it's the same 10pm pay for it, get it at 12 |
| 00:08.39 | Dewin | yeah, if you reserved you'll get a a call. you just probably haven't got yours yet. |
| 00:08.42 | ajmitch | I feel sorry for the guy at the local shop who had to ring everyone on the preorder list |
| 00:08.54 | Dewin | Mine are both paid-in-full already sooo. |
| 00:08.55 | erikd | the girl that called me from gamestop was WAY too happy |
| 00:09.06 | bleeter | my local EB told me the order for .au was so screwed up, better not to bother preordering and just turn up |
| 00:09.08 | Dewin | erikd: Agreed. :) |
| 00:09.08 | erikd | i assume it's the same one from EB |
| 00:09.16 | Lopeppeppy | Mine is shipping from Amazon, the rest of the world can bite me! :) |
| 00:09.21 | bleeter | oooh |
| 00:09.22 | Dewin | Erikd: They're the same company. "Ashley" probably. |
| 00:09.29 | erikd | yeah |
| 00:09.36 | cbreak | one in my guild has two WotLKs already... |
| 00:09.39 | |Jelly| | YAY! Get to replace a radiator this week! It's going to be plusgood. |
| 00:09.42 | ajmitch | not sure if I care enough to stand around in line at midnight |
| 00:09.46 | Dewin | You mean doubleplusungood? |
| 00:09.47 | cbreak | (he claims one is a colectors edition... ) |
| 00:09.48 | erikd | i don't remember the name, i just remember my ear hurt after listening to it |
| 00:09.54 | |Jelly| | No |
| 00:10.01 | Dewin | erikd: Yeah, I was holding the phone about a foot from my ear |
| 00:10.21 | |Jelly| | It will be plusgood. (Doublethink :P) |
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| 00:10.38 | Lopeppeppy | I don't think that's good, Jelly. Radiators aren't meant for replacing. |
| 00:11.53 | mikma | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=23717 :D |
| 00:13.31 | Dewin | I want one. |
| 00:14.00 | erikd | tomorrow is going to go sooooooooooo slow at work |
| 00:14.05 | erikd | i hope i'm really busy |
| 00:14.24 | Dewin | Did anybody else notice that wowhead got rid of being able to search quests by reputation? |
| 00:15.15 | Lopeppeppy | Huh. Interesting. |
| 00:15.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow, the servers are offline? |
| 00:15.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Still? I'm impressed |
| 00:15.55 | cladhaire | me hugs his server |
| 00:15.59 | erikd | that's not good |
| 00:15.59 | cladhaire | which is still online :P |
| 00:16.04 | mikma | am i the only one who is not excited about wotlk release |
| 00:16.05 | erikd | we're supposed to have our last tbc raid tonight |
| 00:16.07 | ScytheBlade1 | cladhaire: come tomorrow... ;) |
| 00:16.10 | erikd | mikma: yes |
| 00:16.11 | cladhaire | ScytheBlade1: hehe |
| 00:16.13 | Dewin | erikd: We had ours yesterday. |
| 00:16.16 | mikma | thought so |
| 00:16.20 | Dewin | Illidan to 11% >.> |
| 00:16.28 | mikma | i really don't feel like leveling all my chars to 80 :( |
| 00:16.30 | erikd | doh, so close =/ |
| 00:16.32 | |Jelly| | You know you're having a bad day when: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/browse_thread/thread/30d77a82981715f2?pli=1 |
| 00:16.34 | cbreak | our last two planed raids had to be canceled :( |
| 00:16.35 | Dewin | Our best attempt was the one where the warlock tank D/C'd midfight. |
| 00:16.51 | ajmitch | Dewin: that's a shame - we got illidan down on monday, so the guild is fairly happy |
| 00:16.53 | cbreak | at least we managed to kill illidan a few times before the big reset |
| 00:16.59 | Dewin | yeah, I think we did ~16 tries (our *first* 16 attempts) |
| 00:17.37 | cbreak | we got kalecgos to 3% once. a week ago. never again managed to get enough people for it :( |
| 00:17.48 | ScytheBlade1 | cladhaire: oh, right. Clique. I'm still running an earlier version from when 3.0 launched, but you know that your tab is still visiable when you're on the glyphs page, right? (Was that fixed already?) |
| 00:17.56 | cladhaire | yes. |
| 00:18.20 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: Alert update due in less than 2 mins ;) |
| 00:19.58 | Lopeppeppy | Sleep well, clad|sleep. |
| 00:19.59 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: indeed |
| 00:20.04 | ScytheBlade1 | later, clad |
| 00:20.10 | bleeter | gnight clad|sleep |
| 00:20.30 | bleeter | and I was so hoping to get out of doing housework today... DAMN YOU BLIZZ! :P |
| 00:20.32 | clad|sleep | night guys |
| 00:20.48 | Dewin | bleeter: I know the feeling. |
| 00:21.25 | ajmitch | we've still got a raid planned for tonight, if all goes well |
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| 00:22.31 | bleeter | as I was saying, I think in another channel, only thing my guild's worked out for the coming week is the rotation for questing/instancing/camping the daylights out of Hellfire after launch |
| 00:23.01 | bleeter | all your lowbie DK's will be.. not HK's to me but still lolol |
| 00:23.33 | Dewin | http://notalwaysright.com/must-be-one-of-them-transdimensional-cameras/1332 |
| 00:24.10 | mikma | i really really hate the idea of leveling 3+ characters into lvl80 :( |
| 00:24.52 | Osagasu | I have 7 60+ right now |
| 00:24.56 | Osagasu | Plus 2 DK alts |
| 00:24.59 | Osagasu | Ergh |
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| 00:25.34 | mikma | i already have a plan: 1) druid to level 80, 2) shaman to level 80, 3) xxx to level 80, 4) profit |
| 00:25.54 | Dewin | I have... 1 70. >.> |
| 00:26.02 | Dewin | next highest is 51. |
| 00:27.05 | mikma | for the past weeks i've been collecting some good epic-gear :O |
| 00:27.08 | mikma | makes it easier to level heh |
| 00:29.13 | smcn | woot |
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| 00:31.32 | Lunessa | New and improved: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6757867106&sid=1 |
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| 00:38.35 | smcn | so how many people are your gamestops expecting? 300 at my local mall, to think the same gamestop only 5 people were there for the initial launch :P |
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| 00:41.15 | NightHawkTheSane | I don't know. I'm just hoping i can get in, pay for it, get out, and be home as close to 9pm as possible :p |
| 00:41.47 | NightHawkTheSane | spending time at a gamestop is not precisely my idea of fun |
| 00:41.53 | smcn | yeah mall is closing at 9 and reopening at 10... i'll probably be there ~9:45 :P |
| 00:42.06 | smcn | pst* |
| 00:42.34 | NightHawkTheSane | reopning at 10 pst? wouldn't they just stay open? if it's going live at 9 pst.. |
| 00:42.56 | smcn | 9pst? you sure? |
| 00:43.29 | NightHawkTheSane | this post seems to indicate that wotlk is going live at 12 est/9pst: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/12454671831-can-westcoast-people-login-900-pm-for-wotlk.html |
| 00:44.10 | smcn | that's lame :/ |
| 00:44.20 | smcn | oh well, i'm on a pst realm anyways :P |
| 00:44.32 | Dewin | smcn: That's fairly usual for mall stores. |
| 00:44.46 | NightHawkTheSane | it shouldn't matter what realm you're on, presumably it would go live simultaneously everywhere |
| 00:44.48 | Dewin | the mall proper closes, then they barricade off sections so you can pretty much only access the store. |
| 00:45.45 | smcn | NightHawkTheSane: well i mean, the majority of people won't have it until midnight or even the next day |
| 00:45.58 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, yeah. |
| 00:46.01 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* |
| 00:46.18 | smcn | i guess i'm not really a "omg first" type of person anyways |
| 00:46.29 | smcn | i just want to play wrath damn it |
| 00:46.31 | smcn | ;P |
| 00:46.52 | NightHawkTheSane | im not usually that kind of person, but some of my friends are planning to get it for midnight, so *shrug* |
| 00:47.14 | NightHawkTheSane | I didn't do the midnight think for TBC, i just strolled into gamestop at like 10 am the next morning |
| 00:47.15 | Lunessa | I'm going, just for the novelty of buying stuff at a store that's normally closed. |
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| 00:47.41 | |Jelly| | Should be able to download it imo |
| 00:47.47 | smcn | yeah this will be the first time i've ever actually waited for a store to open. a milestone in my life to remember |
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| 00:48.17 | smcn | i may tell my grandchildren about it, if i ever stop playing wow long enough to procreate |
| 00:48.29 | NightHawkTheSane | smcn: you have to stop playing wow to procreate? |
| 00:48.30 | Lunessa | That might be difficult. |
| 00:48.51 | smcn | NightHawkTheSane: oh yeah |
| 00:49.07 | Shirik | yay, cookies in the oven! |
| 00:49.15 | NightHawkTheSane | what kind? |
| 00:49.16 | smcn | yay |
| 00:49.17 | Lunessa | I mean, I might fall behind on DPS while I hit something else. :) |
| 00:49.22 | smcn | (::) |
| 00:49.30 | Shirik | not quite chocolate chip |
| 00:49.33 | Shirik | they're those new hershey thingies |
| 00:49.36 | Shirik | kinda like m&ms |
| 00:49.38 | Shirik | but not |
| 00:49.48 | NightHawkTheSane | sounds not-quite appetizing? :p |
| 00:49.49 | |Jelly| | fail cookies |
| 00:49.58 | smcn | NightHawkTheSane: http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/lax/878989144.html |
| 00:50.06 | smcn | surely it's old news |
| 00:50.13 | Dewin | saw that a few days ago. |
| 00:50.16 | smcn | but it pertains to the conversation |
| 00:50.30 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, seen it |
| 00:50.56 | Shirik | these: http://cgi.ebay.com/20-Pillsbury-Cookies-Hershey-Kissables-55-Coupons_W0QQitemZ270276975688QQihZ017QQcategoryZ57742QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting |
| 00:51.28 | Shirik | also |
| 00:51.35 | Shirik | why the hell is some guy selling a $0.55 coupon for $2.50 |
| 00:51.42 | Lunessa | smcn: that's... wrong. |
| 00:52.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: 20 coupons |
| 00:52.05 | Shirik | oh |
| 00:52.08 | NightHawkTheSane | lua>20*.55 |
| 00:52.08 | lua_bot | NightHawkTheSane: 11 |
| 00:52.28 | Shirik | of course, that voids the coupon |
| 00:53.16 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* |
| 00:54.29 | ZorbaTHut | it's not like anyone would ever know |
| 00:54.57 | Shirik | Hi Spellshaper |
| 00:55.25 | Fisker- | Shirik |
| 00:55.28 | Fisker- | my core is still bigger |
| 00:55.44 | Shirik | /yell ----> Tainted core to Fisker- |
| 00:55.53 | Lopeppeppy | Yay. |
| 00:56.24 | Fisker- | Any of you guys know mandarin? :3 |
| 00:56.32 | Dewin | ni hao? |
| 00:56.38 | Lopeppeppy | I know Mandarin oranges, but that's about it. |
| 00:56.38 | Fisker- | no more than that |
| 00:56.39 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 00:56.40 | Dewin | And... that's about it. |
| 00:57.00 | Shirik | gang quai |
| 00:57.02 | Shirik | or something like that |
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| 00:57.09 | Shirik | ~x en zh hurry up |
| 00:57.14 | Shirik | ... |
| 00:57.16 | Shirik | worthless |
| 00:57.18 | Lopeppeppy | Bless you. |
| 00:57.30 | AbsoRayne | :iconxxshadowxxhedgehogxx: ~XxShadowxxHedgehogxX - Romantic Writer - [Reply] |
| 00:57.30 | NightHawkTheSane | worthless? |
| 00:57.32 | AbsoRayne | ~SinOfDreams No, the XX in my username have a powerful meaning... |
| 00:57.33 | AbsoRayne | Oh |
| 00:57.35 | AbsoRayne | my |
| 00:57.36 | AbsoRayne | god |
| 00:57.38 | AbsoRayne | I |
| 00:57.40 | AbsoRayne | cant |
| 00:57.41 | AbsoRayne | stop |
| 00:57.43 | AbsoRayne | laughing |
| 00:57.45 | Fisker- | ~x zh en xD |
| 00:57.51 | Shirik | AbsoRayne: Never do that again |
| 00:57.51 | Fisker- | ~x zh en 赶紧 |
| 00:57.53 | Lopeppeppy | AbsoRayne, take a deep breath, dear. |
| 00:57.56 | Fisker- | fail |
| 00:57.59 | Fisker- | ~x zh en ni ma bi |
| 00:58.02 | Cairenn | AbsoRayne: single line, please |
| 00:58.04 | Fisker- | bah |
| 00:58.20 | Fisker- | fail translator! |
| 00:58.25 | Shirik | Fail Fisker- imo |
| 00:59.03 | Fisker- | my core is bigger than yours |
| 00:59.06 | Fisker- | don't you forget |
| 00:59.47 | Shirik | ROFL |
| 00:59.51 | Shirik | I love this email I got |
| 00:59.58 | AbsoRayne | Sorry guys, but I really think one of my Kidneys just imploded. |
| 01:00.05 | AbsoRayne | Ill never do that again, I promise. |
| 01:00.05 | Shirik | "Unlike George W. Bush, the president-elect is a strong supporter of Net Neutrality and universal, affordable Internet access. " ... "While Free Press is a tax-deductible, nonpartisan organization that cannot and does not endorse political candidates, we are heartened by our nations new direction." |
| 01:00.22 | Cairenn | best get yourself to the nearest hospital then luv ;) |
| 01:00.50 | AbsoRayne | Ill be ok, I got that looked up on Medical.com |
| 01:00.58 | AbsoRayne | I just need the nearest funeral home. |
| 01:01.27 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, no, come to me, AbsoRayne. Discount, you likee or your money back! |
| 01:01.57 | AbsoRayne | Lopeppeppy: Are you going to take my wallet again? |
| 01:02.44 | AbsoRayne | I told you last time you took it that im poor :( |
| 01:03.09 | AbsoRayne | Citizenship costs are not cheap :( |
| 01:06.09 | Lunessa | Ok, I'm off for dinner and home. |
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| 01:06.17 | AbsoRayne | Cairenn: Why does Canada hate Americans so much :( |
| 01:06.34 | NightHawkTheSane | AbsoRayne: because we mock them tirelessly. |
| 01:06.48 | bleeter | AbsoRayne: because they deserve it |
| 01:06.55 | Shirik | I thought wotlk comes out the 13th? |
| 01:07.13 | bleeter | Shirik: correct |
| 01:07.14 | AbsoRayne | I just wanna move up there and be with my wife. :/ Why the hell does this need to be so complicated and expensive. |
| 01:07.19 | Lopeppeppy | Night, Lunessa! |
| 01:07.25 | Shirik | soooo why are people saying they'll be outside at midnight tonight? |
| 01:07.33 | bleeter | Shirik: well, unless you're in .au, then it's the 14th... one day behind NZ, Singapore, Malaysia etc. |
| 01:07.39 | NightHawkTheSane | because they can't tell time? |
| 01:07.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: because they're wrong and broken |
| 01:07.42 | Lopeppeppy | I don't need you to be rich, AbsoRayne. I'm going to sell the other kidney. |
| 01:07.43 | Shirik | ah ok |
| 01:07.49 | ScytheBlade1 | NightHawkTheSane: I like my answer better |
| 01:07.52 | Shirik | Well Amazon promised me it would be on my doorstep the 14th |
| 01:07.54 | Shirik | 13th * |
| 01:07.56 | Shirik | good enough :) |
| 01:07.58 | bleeter | Shirik: you must be new here. lemme explain. PEOPLE ARE EEDJETS |
| 01:08.00 | AbsoRayne | Lopeppeppy: No one will want it. It has ugly wallpaper. |
| 01:08.20 | Lopeppeppy | Your kidney has ugly wallpaper? |
| 01:09.05 | AbsoRayne | Yeah |
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| 01:09.14 | AbsoRayne | its all retro floral print |
| 01:09.17 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm. I'll steam it off. |
| 01:09.24 | Lopeppeppy | But Retro is the new New. |
| 01:09.35 | AbsoRayne | Retro is the retro new. |
| 01:09.43 | Shirik | cookies done! |
| 01:09.48 | Lopeppeppy | Yay cookies! |
| 01:09.59 | AbsoRayne | Cake in a Mug > Cookies |
| 01:10.18 | Lopeppeppy | .... Guinness? |
| 01:10.25 | NightHawkTheSane | yay ambiguously chocolate chip cookies! |
| 01:10.29 | Shirik | all realms are currently offline? |
| 01:10.41 | AbsoRayne | Shirik: Have been since...well, last night |
| 01:10.42 | NightHawkTheSane | all realms are currently offline, w hile they unfuck our mail |
| 01:10.47 | AbsoRayne | they went up for like 20 minutes tops |
| 01:11.08 | Lopeppeppy | Just in time for some desperate fuckery to be noticed. |
| 01:11.10 | Shirik | I wonder what it's like tow ork for blizzard on a night like this |
| 01:11.16 | bleeter | kidneys, as interpreted by a rather famous aussie I ... kinda... know http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=SEoF4KkAknQ |
| 01:11.18 | Lopeppeppy | Hell. |
| 01:11.19 | Shirik | I know when I worked for AD it was hell |
| 01:11.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: painful. very painful. |
| 01:11.35 | Shirik | At least Blizzard has separate teams, though |
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| 01:11.45 | AbsoRayne | Id have to imagine they allow alchohol in the workplace for nights like this. |
| 01:11.47 | Shirik | a team dedicated to controlling the masses, etc. |
| 01:11.49 | NightHawkTheSane | true. but for the people who ARE fixing this.. its painful |
| 01:11.55 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, that's what tazers are for. |
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| 01:12.04 | pompy | they are too busy counting our money |
| 01:12.04 | JamesJr | Hi |
| 01:12.12 | Shirik | I don't think that's really fair t hing to say |
| 01:12.13 | Lopeppeppy | Why hello there. |
| 01:12.19 | JamesJr | So how long is this suppose to last? |
| 01:12.30 | Lopeppeppy | What is "this", JamesJr? |
| 01:12.31 | Shirik | until it's fixed |
| 01:12.39 | End | ^ |
| 01:12.39 | AbsoRayne | Until everyone gets their mail |
| 01:12.42 | AbsoRayne | you know |
| 01:12.49 | Lopeppeppy | The servers being down? Until they are fixed. The Customer Service forum will get updates out as soon as they can, I'm sure. |
| 01:12.58 | JamesJr | The forums are slow as heck. |
| 01:13.08 | AbsoRayne | This might seem a little out of taste, but isnt it somewhat funny that the mail system broke on a holiday where there is no mail? |
| 01:13.20 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, because people are bored and whiny, JamesJr. Is sad but true. |
| 01:13.25 | Shirik | it's everyone sending out their christmas gifts |
| 01:13.25 | JamesJr | What is bad is it broke on a holiday when people actually have time to play! |
| 01:13.28 | bleeter | what holiday? |
| 01:13.32 | bleeter | no bloody holiday here |
| 01:13.32 | Shirik | veteran's day |
| 01:13.39 | Shirik | that's because you live in stupid country, bleeter |
| 01:13.39 | Lopeppeppy | I'd rather they be fixing things today, all day, however long it takes, than have it not work for the release of Wrath. |
| 01:13.40 | bleeter | and we're the world capital of public holidays |
| 01:13.43 | AbsoRayne | Its Veterans Day in the states. |
| 01:13.56 | Lopeppeppy | And remember, not everyone gets that day off, either. |
| 01:14.04 | Shirik | I was at school all day |
| 01:14.06 | JamesJr | I have never bought the other expansion and dont plan on buying this one, it makes no difference to me |
| 01:14.19 | AbsoRayne | Enjoy being 60 forever then |
| 01:14.40 | Lopeppeppy | Well, it makes a lot of difference to Bliz as a company, so they're working hard to get things fixed, right, ready and repaired. Regardless of the Wrath release, they would be doing that. |
| 01:14.47 | JamesJr | I never said I wouldn't, just not at this time |
| 01:14.52 | bleeter | what's wrong with maxing gold<>XPreturns as much as possible? |
| 01:14.56 | bleeter | and rep foo |
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| 01:15.21 | bleeter | I'm sure as hell moving my lowbies to my second account, and not upgradingit |
| 01:15.25 | AbsoRayne | LF39M MC |
| 01:15.25 | Lopeppeppy | Think of the kittens, bleeter. |
| 01:15.39 | ScytheBlade1 | s/39/6/ |
| 01:15.46 | bleeter | every time I kill a kitten, god masturbates? |
| 01:15.49 | Lopeppeppy | This is soooo not me getting my yoga mat bag sewn. I love you guys, but afk on and off. |
| 01:15.52 | Lopeppeppy | BLEETER! |
| 01:15.52 | bleeter | see,I did think of them |
| 01:15.52 | Shirik | not when you're 60, ScytheBlade1 |
| 01:15.55 | JamesJr | What if they can not restore the mail, what happens to all the lost merchandise and gold? |
| 01:15.57 | Lopeppeppy | ~whalenuke bleeter |
| 01:15.58 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around bleeter with his mind powers. |
| 01:16.11 | NightHawkTheSane | JamesJr: it goes away. |
| 01:16.25 | JamesJr | They will not recompensate us? |
| 01:16.32 | NightHawkTheSane | why should they? |
| 01:16.36 | bleeter | only if they can find records in their logs |
| 01:16.44 | bleeter | and if they find records in their logs, they'll return it.. so... |
| 01:16.50 | *** part/#wowuidev kaithecat (n=asfdasfd@67.159.153.112) |
| 01:16.58 | bleeter | it's a bit of a null question |
| 01:17.08 | JamesJr | I put things in the auction this week after not putting anything up for the past 3 weeks...i sure did pick a good weekend to auction stuff |
| 01:17.10 | ajmitch | general forums are funny, so many people up in arms |
| 01:17.13 | bleeter | though, the whole pet/mount restore thing does kinda.. leave the question hanging |
| 01:17.25 | JamesJr | Whats wrong with the mounts |
| 01:17.42 | Dewin | People who used their mounts at the wrong time on patch 3.0 day lost them |
| 01:17.47 | AbsoRayne | 1 days = 30 Cents |
| 01:17.50 | bleeter | was an issue at the launch of the 3.0.2 client |
| 01:17.53 | AbsoRayne | I want my quarter back. |
| 01:18.01 | Dewin | their inventory saved without the item but their character rolled back to before they learned it. |
| 01:18.02 | JamesJr | Wrong time? |
| 01:18.11 | AbsoRayne | They can keep the nickel, too much change in my pocket at that point |
| 01:18.32 | Dewin | Abso: Blizzard has already stated there will be compensation |
| 01:19.04 | AbsoRayne | Eh |
| 01:19.21 | bleeter | never hold yer breath for compensation |
| 01:19.21 | Dewin | I don't have the original post handy, however |
| 01:19.21 | AbsoRayne | 1 Day isnt going to end the world. How about over 30. :/ |
| 01:19.24 | Dewin | and they didn't state specifics. |
| 01:19.35 | bleeter | 3 months of intstability from 2.4.0 amounted to 0 days credit |
| 01:19.36 | NightHawkTheSane | "Additionally, information will be sent shortly to all characters through the in-game mail system. This message will provide further details concerning today's mail issue." that doesn't sound good. |
| 01:19.38 | JamesJr | The one day I have off and Blizzard goes and screws it up. Now I have to watch a disney movie with my son. |
| 01:19.41 | Nosnam | If anyone is so up in arms that they just lost 30 cents of gametime, imo they should probably get a job |
| 01:19.54 | Dewin | Abso: It's to compensate for all of the patch 3.x issues over the span of... what, two weeks now? |
| 01:19.56 | bleeter | NightHawkTheSane: /cower |
| 01:20.07 | bleeter | JamesJr: oh noes, family time! |
| 01:20.08 | End | Nosnam: you assume I play 24/7 |
| 01:20.11 | Dewin | And like I said, they SAID there would be compensation. They did not say what form it'd take. |
| 01:20.16 | AbsoRayne | Did you REALLY just bitch that you have to spend time with your kid? |
| 01:20.18 | AbsoRayne | :S |
| 01:20.36 | End | although, I don't care that much either ;-) |
| 01:20.40 | NightHawkTheSane | JamesJr: god forbid you spend time with your kid. |
| 01:20.51 | End | if say...thursday, there was issues...I'd be a little more annoyed |
| 01:20.54 | JamesJr | He is 24yrs old he can get over it |
| 01:20.55 | AbsoRayne | Thats....pretty sad. |
| 01:21.00 | End | although I'd be less surprised if there was issues too... |
| 01:21.11 | bleeter | some kids never get over parental neglect |
| 01:21.36 | NightHawkTheSane | why does it matter how old he is? he's still family. *shrug* |
| 01:22.23 | JamesJr | How money is considered good to be making a day? |
| 01:22.34 | bleeter | NightHawkTheSane: must be some new definition of 'brought online' meaning 'nothing in realm selector' ;) |
| 01:22.47 | bleeter | *nothing worthwhile |
| 01:22.51 | NightHawkTheSane | bleeter: it takes time to bring realms online, i'm sure |
| 01:22.52 | Shirik | ok, what is "webex"? |
| 01:22.57 | *** part/#wowuidev JamesJr (n=jameswcr@71-87-226-168.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com) |
| 01:23.01 | Dewin | shirik: webconferencing |
| 01:23.12 | bleeter | NightHawkTheSane: LIZE! ;) |
| 01:23.18 | Shirik | well I kinda figured that out -- could the guy doing this be able to show us software in demonstration, etc? |
| 01:23.32 | Nosnam | Heh, there was probably enough money in my inbox to finally get artisan riding... looks like I am going to be welfare flying for a while longer >.< |
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| 01:24.34 | JamesJr | They lost it all :( |
| 01:24.48 | Fisker- | good night Shirik |
| 01:24.52 | Dewin | Heh, my mage probably lost all of his gold then, was all tied up in AH bids. |
| 01:24.54 | Fisker- | i will dream about my core being bigger than yours |
| 01:25.50 | NightHawkTheSane | Dewin: during the few minutes realms WERE up, i noticed AH related mail was fine. *shrug* |
| 01:26.05 | Nosnam | Oh that would be nice |
| 01:26.22 | Nosnam | If the only loss is all that [Troll Sweat] I mailed to everyone in my guild, I can deal with that |
| 01:26.35 | Dewin | Heh, anything mailed COD... |
| 01:26.57 | JamesJr | anything mailed COD what/ |
| 01:27.16 | End | NightHawkTheSane: not entirely |
| 01:27.26 | bleeter | Nosnam: if you're buying wrath, you won't be able to fly in northrend for some time so it's not really a massive issue |
| 01:27.29 | ajmitch | oh what a shame, I'd lose all the low-level junk that was being transferred between characters |
| 01:27.41 | bleeter | Nosnam: by the time you get to learn the flying skill for NR, you'll have the gold for the mount |
| 01:27.53 | NightHawkTheSane | End: *shrug* i didn't exactly study it in depth :p |
| 01:28.12 | End | I got 4 out of...8 or 9 of my items |
| 01:28.14 | JamesJr | Anything mailed COD....what?!?!? Dewin |
| 01:28.29 | End | well...uh..my guild bank's items actually :P we're trying to clear out the bank of gems and whatnot |
| 01:28.34 | End | it's my job to sell them all |
| 01:29.32 | Cidan | oi |
| 01:29.40 | Cidan | What the hell did Blizzard do during maint? |
| 01:29.51 | Osagasu | Who knows |
| 01:29.56 | Cidan | Take firebombs to the servers? |
| 01:30.03 | Osagasu | likely |
| 01:30.04 | JamesJr | They lost all the mail. |
| 01:30.12 | JamesJr | So they had to attempt to restore it. |
| 01:30.17 | Cidan | Whoops |
| 01:30.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Cidan: someone did "delete from mail;" on the database. ;) |
| 01:30.24 | Cidan | rofl |
| 01:31.10 | Cidan | That's... nice. |
| 01:32.09 | Cidan | Shirik: I'm going to vastly expand units, so they hold a lot more stats, like armor, AP, spell power, etc, and will update when it changes. |
| 01:32.48 | Shirik | mmmmm |
| 01:33.00 | Fisker- | RAWR |
| 01:33.03 | Fisker- | I NEED TO REBOOT |
| 01:33.07 | Fisker- | i am having hate |
| 01:33.11 | Shirik | you can if you really want to; the idea behind that whole subsystem was solely to improve performance |
| 01:33.24 | Shirik | so that repeated attempts would yield the same value without trying to get it again |
| 01:33.30 | Shirik | that and tracking |
| 01:33.38 | Shirik | servers being brought back online btw |
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| 01:34.31 | *** part/#wowuidev JamesJr (n=jameswcr@71-87-226-168.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com) |
| 01:35.17 | bleeter | Shirik: so they say, I ain't seenany servers come up for 5 mins since I saw the announcement ;) |
| 01:35.37 | Shirik | well they did say 6 PM |
| 01:35.43 | Shirik | COOKIE |
| 01:35.59 | bleeter | 6 more hours?! |
| 01:36.01 | bleeter | :P |
| 01:36.12 | NightHawkTheSane | pst. |
| 01:36.21 | NightHawkTheSane | but, just for you, YES. SIX MORE HOURS. |
| 01:36.37 | Cidan | Shirik: Yeah, that's what I want to do, hold the values locally, without having to touch the Blizzard API unless it changes, like what you did. |
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| 01:37.20 | Cidan | Just, going to add a lot more to it |
| 01:38.40 | Cidan | Also |
| 01:38.45 | Cidan | If you have yet to try it everyone |
| 01:38.49 | Cidan | Left 4 Dead is fun as shit |
| 01:38.53 | Cidan | Only in multiplayer though |
| 01:38.55 | Cidan | single player is boring |
| 01:39.05 | Cidan | The engine is a bit dated, but, it's still so much fun. |
| 01:39.38 | Shirik | I've been playing SC |
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| 01:40.09 | Lopeppeppy | I've been sewing. |
| 01:40.14 | Cidan | SC? |
| 01:40.17 | Fisker- | i've been destroying |
| 01:40.17 | Shirik | starcraft |
| 01:40.19 | Cidan | Starcraft? |
| 01:40.21 | Cidan | Neat |
| 01:40.26 | Cidan | What's your favorite race? |
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| 01:40.28 | Lopeppeppy | I will kick your behind in Starcraft one day. |
| 01:40.30 | Cidan | What's that? Not protoss? |
| 01:40.43 | Cidan | Good, becaues Protoss suck |
| 01:40.48 | Cidan | h8 Protoss fanbois |
| 01:40.48 | Esamynn | lol |
| 01:40.55 | Cidan | because, even. |
| 01:40.55 | Esamynn | ~lart Cidan |
| 01:40.55 | purl | farts in Cidan's general direction |
| 01:41.07 | Shirik | I like terran |
| 01:41.14 | Cidan | Not bad, brave. |
| 01:41.19 | Shirik | brave? |
| 01:41.21 | Cidan | Really good race, people underestimate them. |
| 01:41.24 | Cidan | brave. |
| 01:41.27 | Cidan | BRAVE I SAY. |
| 01:41.32 | Cidan | To like Terran. |
| 01:41.53 | Shirik | why:( |
| 01:41.58 | Lopeppeppy | He's decent with them. |
| 01:42.06 | Shirik | Yeah I kicked Lopeppeppy's butt |
| 01:42.12 | Shirik | though... |
| 01:42.14 | Lopeppeppy | Did not. |
| 01:42.17 | Shirik | she killed all my attacking force with buildings |
| 01:42.19 | Esamynn | lol |
| 01:42.26 | Lopeppeppy | I soooo almost had you, until I got distracted by exploring the tech tree some more. |
| 01:42.33 | Shirik | uh huh |
| 01:42.42 | Esamynn | Lopeppeppy: close only counts in horseshoes |
| 01:42.46 | Cidan | zerg kekekeke. |
| 01:43.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Esamynn: and hand grenades, and global thermonuclear war. |
| 01:43.05 | Lopeppeppy | And zerg players, since as he says, my **buildings** were winning the fight. |
| 01:43.06 | Esamynn | Cidan: you know what you said about Protoss fanbois? the same applies to Zerg fanbois :P |
| 01:43.12 | Esamynn | NightHawkTheSane: granted |
| 01:43.19 | Cidan | Except the protoss are horrible |
| 01:43.19 | Esamynn | my fingers were being lazy |
| 01:43.20 | Shirik | screw zerg |
| 01:43.21 | Cidan | Horrible |
| 01:44.03 | Esamynn | Cidan: more like you're just horrible with them :P |
| 01:44.16 | Cidan | No, they are horrible, no one plays Protoss on the ladders |
| 01:44.22 | Cidan | And if you do, you certainly won't win |
| 01:44.30 | Esamynn | really? |
| 01:44.38 | Esamynn | I find that surprising |
| 01:44.41 | Cidan | it's either zerg or terran |
| 01:45.09 | Cidan | It'll be interesting to see how SC2 works out, sooo excited about that game. |
| 01:45.21 | Esamynn | one of the things SC is hailed for is its balance |
| 01:45.25 | Cidan | Pissed that it's a 3 part game, but, since each race will have 30 or so missions... |
| 01:45.35 | Cidan | That's not toooo bad. |
| 01:45.46 | Esamynn | Cidan: and each part of the trilogy won't be exclusively missions for that race either |
| 01:45.58 | Cidan | Yeah |
| 01:46.23 | Esamynn | basically, instead of announcing just the game, they've announced two planed expansion packs too ;) |
| 01:46.36 | Shirik | ok so I'm a bit confused |
| 01:46.43 | Shirik | I was spamming the "change realm" button to see if servers are up |
| 01:46.52 | Shirik | And it recommended a different realm, so I went to look |
| 01:46.55 | Shirik | .... and they disappeared |
| 01:46.58 | Cidan | lol |
| 01:47.01 | Shirik | Half of the servers are no longer offline |
| 01:47.02 | Esamynn | Shirik: no need to spam, the list is dynamic, it changes if you leave it open |
| 01:47.03 | Shirik | just gone |
| 01:47.06 | Shirik | oh really? |
| 01:47.08 | Esamynn | my realm disappeared off the list too |
| 01:47.10 | Esamynn | yah |
| 01:47.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: it's there to fuck with you |
| 01:47.51 | Dewin | Well... Earthen Ring will be up last as usual :) |
| 01:48.22 | Shirik | Eredar's gone, Drenden's gone |
| 01:48.26 | Shirik | I think California asploded |
| 01:48.43 | Cidan | Eredar isn't in Cali, I thought it was Texas or something. |
| 01:48.50 | Shirik | yeah I know |
| 01:48.53 | Shirik | I was messing around |
| 01:48.57 | alcaras | Shirik: ETA on new updater? :) |
| 01:49.05 | Shirik | soon (tm) |
| 01:49.13 | Cidan | When It's Done? |
| 01:49.14 | Cidan | =D |
| 01:49.41 | Shirik | I'm still a student in master's program, a GTA, and working on 2 research projects. I only put in time where I have it |
| 01:49.56 | Cidan | Amen |
| 01:50.57 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/superman.jpg |
| 01:51.05 | Dewin | Oh ninja update, the alert changed from 6 PM to 7 PM |
| 01:51.08 | Shirik | ya |
| 01:51.10 | Shirik | was about to say that Dewin |
| 01:51.15 | Shirik | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert |
| 01:51.25 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3|hate`net (n=kd3@wikia/kaydeethree) |
| 01:51.40 | Dewin | Yeah, it said 6 PM and then I started the client and it said 7. |
| 01:52.15 | Dewin | oh bleh. |
| 01:52.20 | Dewin | I'll need to redownload patch 3.0.2? |
| 01:53.03 | Antiarc | http://i37.tinypic.com/23po3k.jpg |
| 01:53.11 | Antiarc | One of my guildmates just dinged her 9th 70 |
| 01:53.52 | Esamynn | I still don't see any online realms :( |
| 01:54.23 | Esamynn | Antiarc: 9th? O_o |
| 01:54.30 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 01:54.32 | Esamynn | one of each class? |
| 01:54.34 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 01:54.39 | Antiarc | And a bank alt mage |
| 01:54.44 | Esamynn | so I guess a DK is next huh? |
| 01:54.48 | Esamynn | or not |
| 01:54.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: a guildy on my last server had 9 70's too |
| 01:54.59 | NightHawkTheSane | he was working on a 10th |
| 01:56.44 | cbreak | I have one. And I doubt I'll ever have a second. |
| 01:57.05 | Antiarc | I have three, and I just dinged the third 70 a week and a half ago |
| 01:57.10 | Antiarc | Not from lack of trying, just lack of caring |
| 01:57.15 | Antiarc | I tend to get alts into the mid-40s and lose interest |
| 01:57.19 | Antiarc | I have a whole gaggle of them there |
| 01:57.26 | ScytheBlade1 | +1 hour on maint |
| 01:58.03 | alcaras | Shirik: Np, good luck |
| 01:59.26 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: welcome to 10 minutes ago. :p |
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| 02:00.20 | bleeter | Esamynn: I'm am in your Realmlist, eating your offline realms >< |
| 02:00.48 | Esamynn | bleeter: meh, I'm going out to dinner, I don't care for another hour and a 1/2 or so |
| 02:01.13 | bleeter | I've got a hot date tonight... I care.. don't you care about my chance for nookie? :( |
| 02:01.23 | Esamynn | later folks |
| 02:01.30 | NightHawkTheSane | i care, bleeter. |
| 02:01.45 | bleeter | aww, thanks NightHawkTheSane :) |
| 02:01.48 | Esamynn | bleeter: No, I don't :P |
| 02:02.00 | NightHawkTheSane | bleeter: and by "i care", what i really mean is that "i hope you don't get any" |
| 02:02.07 | Esamynn | lol |
| 02:04.03 | bleeter | don't get too upset, only a chance |
| 02:04.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Cairenn: i know! thats why i care very much that he doesn't! |
| 02:05.22 | Nom- | lol the downtime message i saw last night said it was only going to be down for 4 hours |
| 02:05.36 | bleeter | Cairenn: (NSFW) http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=DeWAdzFmI10 |
| 02:05.36 | Nom- | I guess they forgot to update it to say it'll be down until launch |
| 02:05.41 | Lopeppeppy | Nom-, things change. *gentle shrug* Do you want them up, or do you want them FIXED. |
| 02:05.46 | Dewin | until after launch. :-p |
| 02:05.58 | Dewin | Nom-: Did you convert between Blizzard time to Real Time? |
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| 02:06.54 | Dewin | looks like kd3 is having server issues too |
| 02:07.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: i'd be pretty happy i they stayed down until sometime thursday afternoon, honestly ;) |
| 02:07.38 | mikma | bleeter: was that youtube-song supposed to be funny or something |
| 02:08.15 | Cidan | sigh |
| 02:08.20 | bleeter | Nom-: would you class Kevin Bloody Wilson as funny? |
| 02:08.22 | Cidan | wtb decent mac keyboard + mouse |
| 02:08.29 | Cidan | hate this mac wireless keyboard |
| 02:08.41 | Cidan | and this little mouse is shit |
| 02:08.43 | Cidan | pure shit |
| 02:09.10 | Nom- | bleeter: Not really, no. |
| 02:09.28 | bleeter | mikma: there's your answer |
| 02:11.54 | Nom- | Is it just me, or is worldofwarcraft.com and the forums broken too? |
| 02:12.00 | bleeter | not you |
| 02:12.09 | Nom- | hmm |
| 02:12.12 | mikma | but you |
| 02:13.46 | Cidan | whew |
| 02:13.50 | Cidan | most servers are off the list |
| 02:13.54 | Dewin | and I was going to get my last 2000 rep. |
| 02:13.58 | Cidan | they are dropping fast |
| 02:14.01 | Cidan | one by one |
| 02:14.12 | Cidan | they should be coming up soon, I HOPE |
| 02:14.38 | Nom- | hmmm so blizz says servers will be up by 4PM Thursday |
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| 02:14.46 | Cidan | lol |
| 02:14.57 | JamesJr | I thought the servers were suppose to be up 15mins ago? |
| 02:15.01 | Nom- | What a kick in the balls... can't buy the wrath expansion until 9AM the next day :( |
| 02:15.13 | bleeter | Nom-: blizz hate us |
| 02:15.14 | Nom- | This is expansion content |
| 02:15.34 | Cidan | what? |
| 02:15.42 | Cidan | The exp content will be up tomorrow, at 9PM PST |
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| 02:15.48 | Cidan | 12AM EST |
| 02:16.01 | NightHawkTheSane | technically, thursdasy at 12 am. |
| 02:16.02 | mikma | aint it up already? |
| 02:16.06 | Nom- | Yeah, add 16 hours to convert to my timezone |
| 02:16.09 | NightHawkTheSane | thursday* |
| 02:16.18 | Cidan | Yes yes, 00:00 Thursday |
| 02:16.21 | mikma | you just need a upgraded account |
| 02:16.28 | Cidan | nosir |
| 02:16.42 | Cidan | They won't activate the content it self until 00:00 |
| 02:16.47 | ajmitch | bleeter: you don't get to experience the joy of a midnight launch? |
| 02:16.48 | JamesJr | Why has the realm list gone so down in number? |
| 02:16.52 | Cidan | Same with TBC, the servers were rebooted |
| 02:17.02 | Lopeppeppy | JamesJr, so many of them are offline still? |
| 02:17.05 | bleeter | ajmitch: yeah, we can.. but it's compeltely pointless |
| 02:17.09 | JamesJr | No, they show offline |
| 02:17.13 | mikma | well i dunno about tbc, wasnt playing back then |
| 02:17.21 | JamesJr | But it used to list so many and now there are 7ish |
| 02:17.40 | Cidan | Yeah, because the servers them self are actually coming offline |
| 02:17.41 | bleeter | bleeter: timezone differences, inevitable crashes etc. as someone said on a major local game forum the other day 'there's only so many big MMO XPAC releases one can bring oneself to live through.. I'm gunna sleep the day off' |
| 02:18.06 | bleeter | JamesJr: when a server is 'powered up', it sends a ping to the realm list server. |
| 02:18.30 | bleeter | JamesJr: the realm doesn't have to be 'online' for that ping to be sent. the realmlist server shows the list based on those 'pings'. so what you're seeing is... |
| 02:18.34 | bleeter | ... disaster |
| 02:18.47 | bleeter | it's prolly technically wide oof the mark what' going on, but vaguely matches |
| 02:19.00 | Nom- | blue past made on the 11th : The expansion content will be fully accessible by 9 pm pacific time tomorrow night. |
| 02:19.11 | Nom- | Which means they're saying 9PM PST on Wednesday night |
| 02:19.19 | Dewin | because midnight EST |
| 02:19.24 | NightHawkTheSane | which is 12 am thursday, est |
| 02:19.25 | Nom- | Yep |
| 02:19.26 | JamesJr | Now there is only one realm listed on the realm list in game! |
| 02:19.44 | Lopeppeppy | That's because they are down. |
| 02:19.49 | bleeter | JamesJr: I am on your realms, sharding your purps |
| 02:19.49 | Nom- | Right, add 16 hours to that... actually that's 1PM local time for me |
| 02:19.59 | Cidan | Arathor is the last one left |
| 02:20.06 | JamesJr | Yep. |
| 02:20.24 | Nom- | Add another 20 hours... that's when I can finally pick up the game |
| 02:21.36 | bleeter | have blizz come out with a 'patch anything -> 3.0.2' patch yet? |
| 02:21.50 | bleeter | looking at all my older mass patches I have, wondering if I can safely blow them away |
| 02:22.01 | erikd | is there a version of fubar that's updated for wotlk? the last version of fubar i see on wowi is from 3/2008 |
| 02:22.18 | erikd | the last big patch was 2.4 bleeter |
| 02:22.18 | Cidan | oh |
| 02:22.21 | Cidan | there's a fix for fubar |
| 02:22.30 | Cidan | go to interface\addons\FuBar |
| 02:22.35 | Cidan | highlight the folder |
| 02:22.38 | Cidan | shift+delete |
| 02:22.39 | Cidan | enter |
| 02:22.41 | Cidan | boom |
| 02:22.41 | erikd | >< |
| 02:22.42 | Cidan | solved |
| 02:22.56 | Nom- | omg this is a disaster! |
| 02:23.04 | Cidan | It's madness! |
| 02:23.05 | End | no |
| 02:23.08 | JamesJr | what? |
| 02:23.08 | End | this is dinosaur |
| 02:23.11 | Nom- | I was about to make myself a bacon and egg sandwitch. But we're out of bread!!!! |
| 02:23.16 | End | THIS IS DINOSAUR!!! |
| 02:23.23 | Lopeppeppy | RAWR. |
| 02:23.26 | erikd | i needs mah fubar! |
| 02:23.33 | bleeter | Nom-: put the bacon and egg... between two pieces of bacon and egg? |
| 02:23.38 | bleeter | sorta a sammich |
| 02:23.44 | JamesJr | even the realm status page is down |
| 02:23.54 | JamesJr | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/realmstatus/ |
| 02:24.56 | Nom- | I can't even get to the realm status page :P |
| 02:25.11 | Nom- | Consider yourself lucky. |
| 02:25.16 | JamesJr | ? |
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| 02:25.48 | Nom- | Well, that settles it then. I'm off to get some lunch. |
| 02:28.19 | Shirik | You must construct additional pylons |
| 02:28.31 | Shirik | archons cost a lot of psi :( |
| 02:29.21 | erikd | so do servers |
| 02:30.25 | mikma | who has the largest achievement-value before wotlk? |
| 02:30.30 | End | I do! |
| 02:30.32 | End | no, I dunno |
| 02:30.43 | erikd | a guy in my guild has ~3800 |
| 02:30.44 | End | someone on my server has 3.5k |
| 02:30.48 | End | oh wow |
| 02:30.48 | erikd | i'm only at 2.3 |
| 02:30.56 | End | personally, I have 3k |
| 02:31.16 | erikd | i don't have any of the azeroth quest ones |
| 02:31.21 | erikd | and only 2 from outland |
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| 02:31.44 | Arrowmaster | erikd: fubar isnt kept updated on wowi, goto curse |
| 02:31.57 | erikd | i just got titanpanel instead :) |
| 02:32.01 | erikd | it's what i used before fubar |
| 02:32.08 | Arrowmaster | eww |
| 02:32.10 | Lopeppeppy | I am using DataText for now. |
| 02:32.36 | erikd | i just need a bar at the top of my screen that tells me my durability, money, bag space and time |
| 02:32.48 | Cidan | I think I'm going back to TitanBar |
| 02:32.50 | Cidan | or, I might make my own |
| 02:32.55 | mikma | arrowmaster: i'll ewww you good! |
| 02:33.13 | erikd | cidan: what don't you like about fubar? |
| 02:33.17 | mikma | cidan: DataBroker =/ |
| 02:33.27 | Cidan | erikd: Everything everywhere is always broken and bugged? |
| 02:33.33 | Lopeppeppy | Erikd, Datatext does that. |
| 02:35.09 | erikd | hmm, maybe i'll get that |
| 02:36.59 | Fisker- | damnit |
| 02:37.01 | Fisker- | poor Mike-N-Go |
| 02:37.03 | mikma | so. 45mins ago (at 3.45am) sone punks decided to shoot a firework near our window |
| 02:37.59 | mikma | Failer- |
| 02:38.03 | Dewin | http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/ldn/783766933.html hmm... |
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| 02:47.56 | JamesJr | y r dey still down |
| 02:48.46 | Cidan | new ETA is at 10 EST |
| 02:48.53 | JamesJr | what? |
| 02:49.00 | JamesJr | they said 9 |
| 02:49.08 | Cidan | And did you not read what I just said? |
| 02:49.13 | Cidan | new ETA is at 10 EST. |
| 02:49.31 | erikd | are the servers back up yet? |
| 02:49.35 | JamesJr | nopw |
| 02:49.40 | JamesJr | 3 more hours |
| 02:49.57 | Cidan | no? |
| 02:50.00 | Cidan | 10 EST is like |
| 02:50.00 | erikd | what about now? |
| 02:50.02 | Cidan | 10 minutes away |
| 02:50.12 | JamesJr | it will be 3hrs |
| 02:50.16 | Cidan | Likely. |
| 02:51.37 | JamesJr | So a friend of mine got back from Amsterdam a few months back, after spending a stint there with a bunch of his mates. Told me quite possibly one of the funniest stories I?ve heard. They had picked up some shrooms and acid, and decided to take it in the wee hours of the morning, and spend the day exploring the city while they tripped?sure enough 20min into it, one of the group vanishes. So, after 7 or so hours of struggling to |
| 02:51.37 | JamesJr | lost friend, they decide it?d be best to head back to their hotel, sober up, regroup, and go looking when the gears worn off and they?d be of more use. |
| 02:52.09 | Cidan | Continue |
| 02:52.11 | opant | if(wotlk++) then (realmsDown) |
| 02:52.38 | JamesJr | Anyway, upon arrival at the hotel, surprise suprise they find their friend standing in the lobby, dazed and staring at the ceiling muttering to himself. Understandably they were all pissed off with him for making them worry and bringing their trip down as a result of their half assed search. However all the friend can reply with is ?this fucking town is full of gremlins!?? They tried to calm him down and tell him that it was th |
| 02:52.38 | JamesJr | hallucinate, to which he replied ?I knew you?d say that so I captured one and locked it in the bathroom?? |
| 02:53.00 | Cidan | Oh |
| 02:53.04 | Cidan | old story |
| 02:53.46 | Dewin | I haven't heard it. |
| 02:53.54 | JamesJr | as you?d expect they thought he was losing the plot, but he insisted they come to his room and look for themselves. So, they head to the room, and sure enough, the bathroom door is baracaded shut with chairs, lamps, mattress and the bed?they're getting a little worried now, so they cautiously move the furniture away and inch the door open? |
| 02:54.19 | JamesJr | ...Laying on the floor is a 10 year old kid with Down syndrome grinning ear to ear. |
| 02:54.35 | JamesJr | The mate had come across one of those outing groups or retarded kids - freaked out, balled up one of those poor little bastards carried him back to the room and locked him in the bathroom for proof? |
| 02:55.48 | Cidan | JamesJr: Word of warning, this is treading into the unfunny. |
| 02:56.02 | NightHawkTheSane | not to mention being long. |
| 02:57.50 | Nom- | A punch line would be nice, before I fall to sleep from boredom. |
| 02:59.04 | JamesJr | yall never saw that at bash? |
| 02:59.12 | JamesJr | http://bash.org/?top |
| 02:59.34 | NightHawkTheSane | see. a link would have been much better than copying and pasting the entirety of that idiocy. |
| 02:59.53 | NightHawkTheSane | before, we might have said "meh, whatever", now we think you're a spamming moron. :p |
| 03:00.34 | JamesJr | I see |
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| 03:02.23 | Dewin | they said 7:00 PST right? |
| 03:03.02 | JamesJr | now |
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| 03:06.46 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm. its a bad thing when launcher.worldofwarcraft.com appears to be down, isn't it |
| 03:07.00 | Dewin | It worked after a few refreshes |
| 03:07.09 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, it just did, took a bit though |
| 03:07.12 | Dewin | no update |
| 03:07.14 | bleeter | for those who've not seenthe blue post about the mail... check mmo champ |
| 03:07.31 | bleeter | seems they've 'lost' (ie, misplaced) all mails that were in inboxed from 3.0.3 |
| 03:07.59 | bleeter | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/12640063922-ingame-mails.html |
| 03:08.19 | ajmitch | but they haven't actually lost the items or gold |
| 03:08.22 | ajmitch | how boring |
| 03:08.26 | Jamash | yeah, thank goodness |
| 03:08.35 | Jamash | you nearly gave me a heart attack bleeter |
| 03:08.51 | bleeter | ajmitch: duno about that, people are still allegedly missing pets from the 3.0.2 launch |
| 03:09.07 | Lopeppeppy | Zarhym rocks my world. |
| 03:09.11 | Jamash | I mailed every item from one of my bank alts to my main a few days ago, if I'd lost all that I'd be super pissed |
| 03:09.46 | bleeter | somewhere, somehow, I think there's some DBA who's being prepared for a big time ass kicking |
| 03:10.27 | bleeter | as well as probably some risk assesment project manager (if there's such a role @ blizz) |
| 03:11.00 | Arrowmaster | makes me happy i didnt mail my big blizzard bear off to an alt yet |
| 03:11.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: eh, all the stuff will be sent back by blizz, so they say, so theoretically it shouldn't matter |
| 03:11.33 | bleeter | I'd be real pissed if I'd just manaegd to get my pets back in the mail, but not actually grab them |
| 03:11.50 | NightHawkTheSane | bleeter: it's pretty impossible to say exactly what went wrong, so who knows who's fault it is |
| 03:12.22 | kd3 | oh wow |
| 03:12.26 | kd3 | are the servers still not up? |
| 03:12.31 | NightHawkTheSane | indeed they are not |
| 03:12.34 | kd3 | O_O |
| 03:12.35 | bleeter | NightHawkTheSane: I just think 'last 15 days, what happened 15 days ago.. oh, patch and probably some DB table translations' |
| 03:12.55 | bleeter | but generally, i do agree. wild stabs in the dark ;) |
| 03:13.08 | JamesJr | I got mail from 15days ago, am i getting double now??? |
| 03:13.08 | kd3 | geez... how many DBAs heads are on platters already? |
| 03:13.12 | NightHawkTheSane | bleeter: *shrug* a good bet, but yeah, we really have no clue :) |
| 03:13.33 | bleeter | kd3: clearly... and it pains me to say it 'coz DBA is a thankless task... 'not enough' |
| 03:13.52 | Lopeppeppy | Before I go to bed, a last word of Peppy Wisdom.... |
| 03:14.11 | Lopeppeppy | Relax. Eat a cookie. Eat a sammich. Perspective helps. |
| 03:14.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: i don't have any cookies :( |
| 03:14.31 | kd3 | meh. I just got back from work |
| 03:14.38 | Cairenn | go bake a batch |
| 03:14.45 | kd3 | shame that I'm failing a daily request at the 4 day mark again |
| 03:14.46 | Lopeppeppy | Make a sammich. Eat your hamster, I don't care. But the vibes in here are hateful enough to make a redwood tree drown in it's own sap. Chill! |
| 03:14.46 | kd3 | >.< |
| 03:14.51 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont have the stuff to make cookies. |
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| 03:15.18 | NightHawkTheSane | i could pop off to the store and get cookies, though. i need a couple other things. |
| 03:15.38 | kd3 | har. forums have taken a dive too |
| 03:17.07 | Shirik | wow |
| 03:17.10 | Shirik | only one server exists |
| 03:17.16 | Sargeras | arathor? |
| 03:17.17 | NightHawkTheSane | heh, zarhym made a post saying (among other things) "The web database is currently maxed at 100% CPU usage." |
| 03:17.17 | Shirik | did we get free server transfer there or do I have to start over? |
| 03:17.26 | Corgan | lol |
| 03:17.43 | Nom- | ROOOOOOOOFL |
| 03:17.47 | Sargeras | this is why I didnt ask for Thursday and Friday off ;p |
| 03:17.55 | Sargeras | because... yeah |
| 03:18.04 | Nom- | bleeter: iiNet now shows up as a search for "largest australian isp" |
| 03:18.22 | Cidan | shit |
| 03:18.25 | Cidan | I know what I'll do |
| 03:18.29 | Nom- | Due to a misquote by the press |
| 03:18.32 | Cidan | I was trying to figure out what to write for Android |
| 03:18.33 | Nom- | That's just funny |
| 03:18.36 | bleeter | Nom-: hahaha |
| 03:18.37 | Cidan | I'll write an e-book reader |
| 03:18.46 | bleeter | I was about to say 'wtf largest??' |
| 03:19.29 | Dewin | realmlist completely empty now. |
| 03:19.34 | bleeter | Shirik: don't transfer mate, you'll probably get stuck in the queue and your credit card charged each time they try and get out unstuck ;) |
| 03:19.47 | Nom- | we even got slashdotted as "Michael Malone, head of Australia's largest ISP iiNet announced..." |
| 03:19.51 | bleeter | (qualification: I beleive that issue resolved itself early last week) |
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| 03:22.06 | JamesJr | OMG i died |
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| 03:23.51 | ScytheBlade1 | The servers are currently being brought back online and should be playable by approximately 7:45PM PST |
| 03:23.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Ninja'd! |
| 03:24.11 | JamesJr | they keep moving it |
| 03:24.14 | JamesJr | i was 9pm |
| 03:24.16 | JamesJr | then 10pm |
| 03:24.21 | JamesJr | no 10:45pm |
| 03:24.22 | bleeter | damn you blizzard, I beleived your promises of realms being up! now I haven't done any housework because of your lies. I demand compensation. I DEMAND ORDINN VACUUM MY HOUSE! |
| 03:24.46 | bleeter | ideally while wearing a pink frilly tutu |
| 03:24.49 | bleeter | coz that'd be such win |
| 03:24.59 | Cidan | 10:45, lol |
| 03:25.01 | Dewin | they added 45 more minutes again? |
| 03:25.03 | Cidan | they need to stop |
| 03:25.08 | Dewin | I haven't been able to get the page to update. |
| 03:25.09 | Cidan | putting time on it |
| 03:25.26 | bleeter | Soon(TM) |
| 03:25.46 | Dewin | and bleeter: you vacuum? I just bust out my lowly underpaid serva^H^H^H^H^Hroomba. |
| 03:26.11 | Qzot | :( We've been through 3 roombas now. Love them. Hate having to replace them. |
| 03:26.24 | JamesJr | why do they break? |
| 03:26.27 | bleeter | Dewin: I live at the butt end of the planet, barely have toobs down this way let alone roomas |
| 03:26.30 | bleeter | roombas |
| 03:26.53 | Qzot | I know where the armpit of the planet is, but where is the butt end? |
| 03:27.05 | Shirik | New Jersey? |
| 03:27.20 | bleeter | Australia... a former Prime Minister referred to it as 'the arse end of the world' |
| 03:27.21 | Dewin | Qzot: I'm on roomba #2 myself |
| 03:27.25 | Cidan | Shirik: Amen |
| 03:27.29 | Dewin | the first one stopped charging. |
| 03:27.44 | bleeter | which means, I think, technically I'm on the chocolate starfish part |
| 03:27.45 | Dewin | They sent me a replacement battery, which didn't fix it, so now I have an new roomba + bonus extra battery |
| 03:27.49 | Qzot | Ours just stop. |
| 03:27.55 | Shirik | I <3 my roomba |
| 03:28.01 | Shirik | I also wrote an API for roombas |
| 03:28.03 | Shirik | if you all want it |
| 03:28.03 | Shirik | :P |
| 03:28.12 | Qzot | We're thinking of packing up all 3 and mailing them to Roomba HQ. |
| 03:28.15 | Shirik | so you don't have to mess with that awkward serial protocol |
| 03:28.15 | bleeter | Shirik: can I control it from WoW? |
| 03:28.24 | Shirik | eh, no, you need a JRE :P |
| 03:28.31 | bleeter | what's the point, then? :P |
| 03:28.33 | Shirik | though that would be awesome |
| 03:28.37 | MentalPower | you and Java |
| 03:28.40 | Dewin | lol, wasd roomba. |
| 03:28.48 | Shirik | MentalPower, honestly I hate java |
| 03:28.52 | Dewin | but... what would the jump button do. |
| 03:29.02 | Shirik | But unfortunately I'm a GTA, and the majority of our classes are in Java |
| 03:29.07 | bleeter | Shirik: you might be able to hack the G15 lib calls and control it that way, would be difficult as hell, but maybe doable |
| 03:29.08 | Cidan | h8 Java |
| 03:29.08 | Shirik | so when I'm told to write an API for a class, it has to be in Java |
| 03:29.10 | MentalPower | Shirik: doesn't look it :P |
| 03:29.13 | Cidan | Android uses it, but, it's eh. |
| 03:29.23 | Qzot | Shirik: I hate Java, too. Too bad it's better than just about everything else for production code. |
| 03:29.32 | Shirik | I use C++ every chance I can get |
| 03:29.37 | Cidan | yep |
| 03:29.45 | Shirik | OH! |
| 03:29.46 | Shirik | Cidan! |
| 03:29.49 | Cidan | Real men use C/C++, and ASM |
| 03:29.49 | Shirik | You'll love this |
| 03:29.50 | Cidan | Sup |
| 03:29.57 | Shirik | This AMAZING line of code I wrote today |
| 03:30.02 | Cidan | Oh lord. |
| 03:30.13 | Qzot | c++ for toy projects is one thing. For projects in the real world, well... *shudder* |
| 03:30.27 | Shirik | Actually, C++ is one of the best embedded languages, especially if you need OOP |
| 03:30.27 | Cidan | For projects in the real world, it's wonderful. |
| 03:30.33 | Cidan | Totally. |
| 03:30.36 | Shirik | in fact, it is the only OOP language you can use in avionics applications |
| 03:30.47 | Qzot | Fair enough. |
| 03:30.50 | Cidan | So long as you're not a moron, you'll be fine. |
| 03:30.57 | Shirik | C++ does let you shoot yourself in the foot, though |
| 03:31.03 | Shirik | As will be shown by this line |
| 03:31.05 | Qzot | Though I'd still pick c over c++ for really large projects. |
| 03:31.06 | Cidan | Ya, but so does Lua |
| 03:31.17 | Qzot | Cidan: False. |
| 03:31.33 | Cidan | False? |
| 03:31.34 | Qzot | Cidan: As long as *no one on your project* is an idiot, you'll be fine. |
| 03:31.41 | Cidan | True |
| 03:31.48 | Cidan | So don't work with morons |
| 03:31.52 | Qzot | That's inversely proportional to the size of the project. |
| 03:32.06 | Qzot | Morons are too ingenious to avoid completely. |
| 03:32.23 | Qzot | Some of the worst morons have high IQs. :P |
| 03:32.30 | bleeter | wow's C++ isn't it? |
| 03:32.58 | Cidan | Ya, of course |
| 03:33.04 | Shirik | Check out the first line of this function http://wowi.pastey.net/101667 |
| 03:33.08 | Shirik | This is an example of how not to write C++ |
| 03:33.09 | Qzot | Afaik, WoW has amazingly few devs. That helps. |
| 03:33.12 | ajmitch | bleeter: and the servers have been down for how long? :) |
| 03:33.59 | Qzot | Cute. ^..^ |
| 03:34.10 | Shirik | And how it works: http://wowi.pastey.net/101668 |
| 03:34.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: len ^_^ 0; |
| 03:34.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: die |
| 03:34.23 | Cidan | rofl |
| 03:34.23 | Cidan | what |
| 03:34.25 | Cidan | ahahahha |
| 03:34.26 | Cidan | wtf |
| 03:34.36 | Shirik | I had to put it in somehow |
| 03:34.43 | Shirik | ajmitch: See the second pastey on why it compiles :) |
| 03:34.52 | ajmitch | yeah |
| 03:34.53 | ajmitch | you scare me |
| 03:35.11 | Cidan | Shirik: That's done with style though, nicely done |
| 03:35.15 | Shirik | len ^_^ 0; is identical to assert(len != 0); |
| 03:35.15 | Cidan | I lawl'd |
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| 03:36.13 | Qzot | Speaking of WotLK, has anyone in beta measured xp/hour in Netherstorm or SMV vs Northrend? |
| 03:36.23 | Shirik | In particular, the reason I wrote this line of code is actually a test |
| 03:36.27 | Cidan | it's... OVER NINE THOUUSAAANND |
| 03:36.28 | Shirik | to ensure the people doing code reviews are ACTUALLY doing them |
| 03:37.56 | Qzot | Jerry Weinberg argued for programming buddies to intentionally insert bugs into each other's code. |
| 03:42.40 | Jamash | that kind of code is proof that C++ is inherently evil |
| 03:42.51 | Shirik | No |
| 03:42.58 | Shirik | That kind of code is proof that you can MAKE C++ be evil to you |
| 03:43.15 | Jamash | of course I use perl so who am I to talk |
| 03:43.19 | Shirik | rofl |
| 03:43.44 | Shirik | Just like perl has a spaceship operator |
| 03:43.47 | Shirik | now C++ has the smiley operator :D |
| 03:43.54 | Corgan | lol |
| 03:44.08 | Shirik | I really hoped to find a way to get :) to work |
| 03:44.10 | Shirik | but I can't |
| 03:45.26 | Cidan | lolwut |
| 03:45.37 | Cidan | login to WoW, and on the realm pick list option thing |
| 03:45.47 | Cidan | for preferred location |
| 03:45.51 | Cidan | "Development" |
| 03:45.57 | Cidan | Never seen that option before. |
| 03:46.02 | Shirik | you haxed wow! |
| 03:46.15 | Cidan | Clearly. |
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| 03:46.38 | bleeter | dev turns up when everything else is dead |
| 03:46.39 | ScytheBlade1 | It's there when -no- realms are even slightly up |
| 03:46.41 | Dewin | Development shows as an option when no realms are up |
| 03:46.42 | bleeter | realm group of last resort |
| 03:46.43 | ScytheBlade1 | That's working as intended |
| 03:46.47 | Cidan | jesus |
| 03:46.50 | Cidan | thanks for the answer? |
| 03:46.51 | Cidan | lol |
| 03:46.53 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 03:46.56 | ScytheBlade1 | x3! |
| 03:47.03 | Qzot | So ... it's 7:45PDT. The realms are up? |
| 03:47.04 | bleeter | Cidan: in case you didn't know |
| 03:47.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope |
| 03:47.08 | bleeter | when no realms are up |
| 03:47.11 | Shirik | ~serveralert |
| 03:47.13 | bleeter | you'll see |
| 03:47.19 | Shirik | purl needs to know how to read serveralert messages |
| 03:47.20 | bleeter | on the right side, for your zones |
| 03:47.26 | bleeter | for realms you can select |
| 03:47.30 | bleeter | oh, I give up |
| 03:47.48 | bleeter | DOES IT BLEND??? |
| 03:48.00 | Corgan | ~wowalert |
| 03:48.01 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US), http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) |
| 03:48.05 | Shirik | no |
| 03:48.06 | Cidan | if it doesn't, you're not using a big enough blender |
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| 03:48.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I like how the DVD still has five different MPQs |
| 03:48.33 | Shirik | I mean actually go to the site and say the contents |
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| 03:48.42 | ScytheBlade1 | You can tell it was mastered for CDs but they eventually dropped them in favor of just DVDs |
| 03:48.56 | Shirik | eh, actually |
| 03:49.00 | Shirik | Shiibot should be able to do that |
| 03:49.01 | ScytheBlade1 | We are currently working to bring all realms back online. |
| 03:49.30 | bleeter | aka 'nfi either'? |
| 03:49.47 | *** part/#wowuidev JamesJr (n=jameswcr@71-87-226-168.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com) |
| 03:49.51 | *** join/#wowuidev Thunder_Child (i=TC@cpe-76-169-230-188.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 03:50.19 | bleeter | think I might go watch The Aristocrats again |
| 03:50.28 | bleeter | while demanding Ordinn vacuum my home |
| 03:50.41 | Qzot | Um. What was "today's mail issue"? |
| 03:50.47 | ScytheBlade1 | All mail was lost |
| 03:50.49 | Jamash | BALEETED |
| 03:50.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Gone go poof |
| 03:51.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Gold, items |
| 03:51.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Gone! |
| 03:51.05 | bleeter | all mail that was in your INBOX from 15 days ago until shutdown, is gone bye bye |
| 03:51.05 | Jamash | they're trying to restore it all |
| 03:51.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Qzot: Human sacrifice! dogs and cats living together! Mass Hysteria! |
| 03:51.39 | Qzot | Oh, shit. |
| 03:51.42 | Jamash | they'd better be able to restore my mail |
| 03:51.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope. All gone. |
| 03:51.57 | Jamash | I mean the items |
| 03:52.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope. All gone. |
| 03:52.22 | Jamash | says who? |
| 03:52.33 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd link you the posts but there's a reason the forums are down |
| 03:52.36 | NightHawkTheSane | the omniscient ScytheBlade1 |
| 03:52.39 | Qzot | What about stuff that I received *more* than 15 days ago, but still in the inbox? |
| 03:52.46 | ScytheBlade1 | That should be intact |
| 03:53.02 | Qzot | My entire gem wealth is somewhere near that edge. |
| 03:53.20 | *** join/#wowuidev galf_ (n=williamm@118-93-3-50.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 03:53.36 | Jamash | I deleted one of my bank alts to make room for my DK, so I had an entire alt worth of items in transit |
| 03:53.55 | Qzot | Ouch. |
| 03:54.08 | ScytheBlade1 | .. okay, truth be told, I just like watching people squirm |
| 03:54.09 | ScytheBlade1 | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/12640063922-ingame-mails.html |
| 03:54.19 | ScytheBlade1 | It's fine and you'll get all of your items back "soon" |
| 03:54.28 | Jamash | hopefully |
| 03:54.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, people are still trying to get mounts restored, so hopefully indeed |
| 03:55.04 | NightHawkTheSane | honestly, i didn't have -huge- amounts of valuable stuff. some auctions, a few thousand pieces of assorted cloth, and like ~6/7 haunted mementos. it's the mementos i really care about >.> |
| 03:55.39 | Jamash | I don't think I had anything irreplaceable in mail |
| 03:55.51 | bleeter | heh, I think I've got a bunch of bugged DMFcards and mechanical squirrels in my various mails |
| 03:55.59 | bleeter | wonder if they'll restore the fixed or bugged variants |
| 03:56.11 | NightHawkTheSane | well, the bugged version, obviously. ;) |
| 03:56.21 | bleeter | NightHawkTheSane: goodo, was getting worried :D |
| 03:59.20 | Dewin | alert message now has *no* time estimate |
| 04:00.11 | Jamash | maybe I'll play the L4D demo again |
| 04:02.30 | bleeter | wonder if they got partially through a restore, then decided to stop the procedure, now they're having to rollback the restore... ugh |
| 04:02.58 | bleeter | yes, Aristoracts is highly appropriate right now methinks |
| 04:06.42 | ccox | I love that the normal client is currently offering me development realms. |
| 04:06.51 | Cidan | hey |
| 04:06.52 | Cidan | hey guys |
| 04:06.53 | Cidan | hey |
| 04:07.02 | Cidan | did you know that it's telling me to pick development realms? |
| 04:07.26 | ajmitch | no, we never knew |
| 04:08.07 | ccox | 6, no strike that, 7, nope can't do that one, 8, do I hear a bid for 9pm PST? |
| 04:08.31 | Qzot | I'm betting 12:50. |
| 04:08.44 | Jamash | I'm just hoping they're up by the time my sister gets off work tomorrow so we can run dire maul for my dreadsteed |
| 04:08.49 | Qzot | It'll 10 to 1 if they make that. (badum-ching) |
| 04:10.06 | *** join/#wowuidev Asuah (i=Asuah@65.50.74.112) |
| 04:10.15 | Dewin | I blame the people who already got their wotlk keys. |
| 04:10.34 | ccox | Dewin - won't do them any good until Thursday |
| 04:11.16 | Shirik | this is so going to fail miserably |
| 04:11.18 | Shirik | !reload |
| 04:11.19 | Shiibot | AI routines & configuration reloaded |
| 04:11.24 | Shirik | !serveralert |
| 04:11.24 | ccox | personally, I think it was my 800 bids in AH on one realm |
| 04:11.38 | Qzot | Bids? |
| 04:11.39 | Shirik | well, it didn't fail as miserably as I had expected |
| 04:11.51 | Qzot | I've have 800 items up for sale, but never that many bids. |
| 04:11.58 | Dewin | ccox: Yeah, but apparently the account upgrade page is already up :) |
| 04:12.16 | ccox | I was trying to see how much gold I could make on a lowbie, started with 12 silver, currently have about 300g |
| 04:12.31 | Dewin | My lv20 priest has ~300g. |
| 04:12.31 | Shirik | !reload |
| 04:12.31 | Shiibot | AI routines & configuration reloaded |
| 04:12.34 | Qzot | Ah. I did the same thing recently. |
| 04:12.36 | Shirik | !serveralert |
| 04:12.41 | Dewin | He started with an allocation of 10g + 4 bags. |
| 04:12.47 | ccox | Dewin: so far my lowbie is level 11 |
| 04:12.50 | Dewin | just from inscription (mostly slow fall glyphs ;)) |
| 04:12.53 | Qzot | Got to about 300g on a level 12, and got bored. The Darkmoon faire makes it too easy. |
| 04:13.04 | ccox | Dewin: vendor items, DE and just learning inscription (to see if I can make it profitable) |
| 04:13.13 | *** join/#wowuidev Adys (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 04:13.31 | Dewin | well, I've also shopped ;) |
| 04:13.36 | Jamash | the official forum has gone all picasso on me |
| 04:13.49 | Shirik | lua> ("@conspiracy/developer/Shirik"):match("@conspiracy/developer/Shirik") |
| 04:13.49 | lua_bot | Shirik: @conspiracy/developer/Shirik |
| 04:13.53 | Thunder_Child | old and expensive? |
| 04:14.09 | Jamash | I think the style sheet failed to load |
| 04:14.32 | ccox | forums aren't loading at all for me |
| 04:15.02 | Shirik | !quit |
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| 04:15.10 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shiibot] by ChanServ |
| 04:15.36 | ccox | maybe they unplugged the forums to mop up all the QQ |
| 04:15.45 | ccox | ah, now "forum maintenance notification" |
| 04:15.49 | ccox | yep, cleaning up the QQ |
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| 04:16.45 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shiibot] by ChanServ |
| 04:17.25 | Shirik | Ok, now for the real test |
| 04:17.32 | Shirik | !serveralert |
| 04:17.33 | Shiibot | <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN"> | <html><head> |
| 04:17.33 | Shiibot | <title>400 Bad Request</title> | </head><body> |
| 04:17.33 | Shiibot | <h1>Bad Request</h1> | <p>Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand.<br /> |
| 04:17.36 | Shirik | er... |
| 04:17.43 | Shirik | :( |
| 04:17.48 | Jamash | FAIL |
| 04:18.07 | Thunder_Child | indeed |
| 04:19.50 | ScytheBlade1 | How do you break an HTTP request? |
| 04:19.53 | ScytheBlade1 | That's all sorts of bad |
| 04:20.24 | Shirik | I did "HTTP/1.1 GET /alert" instead of "GET /alert HTTP/1.1" |
| 04:20.32 | Shirik | going off memory :( |
| 04:20.40 | Shirik | !quit die die die |
| 04:20.49 | Jamash | he's coloring outside the lines |
| 04:20.57 | kd3 | ~failrk |
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| 04:21.06 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 04:21.11 | *** join/#wowuidev Shiibot (n=Shiibot@WoWUIDev/Nospam) |
| 04:21.11 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shiibot] by ChanServ |
| 04:21.12 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: +i |
| 04:21.19 | Thunder_Child | failrik maybe |
| 04:21.21 | Shirik | !serveralert |
| 04:21.47 | Thunder_Child | was the alert supposed to be this century? |
| 04:21.50 | ScytheBlade1 | ~failrik |
| 04:21.51 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 04:22.00 | Shiibot | SERVERALERT: | November 11th, 2008 7:50PM PST |
| 04:22.00 | Shiibot | Maintenance Update | We are currently working to bring all realms back online. Additionally, information will be sent shortly to all characters through the in-game mail system. This message will provide further details concerning today's mail issue. |
| 04:22.00 | Shiibot | Thank you for your understanding. | November 10, 2008, 12:10PM PST |
| 04:22.04 | Shirik | well that took forever |
| 04:22.05 | ScytheBlade1 | There you go |
| 04:22.09 | Cidan | There you go |
| 04:22.10 | ScytheBlade1 | The server sucks atm |
| 04:22.12 | Cidan | No time this time |
| 04:22.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Perhaps add caching? |
| 04:22.14 | Shirik | It's supposed to be on a 15s timeout though |
| 04:22.29 | Cidan | !serveralert |
| 04:22.38 | Shirik | Only I can do it atm |
| 04:22.51 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, what time is it set for? |
| 04:22.52 | Shirik | I need to figure out how to make it workable without abuse |
| 04:22.59 | Shirik | what do you mean, Thunder_Child? |
| 04:23.15 | Thunder_Child | 7:50 pst is not right |
| 04:23.36 | ajmitch | that's the time in the http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert |
| 04:23.56 | Thunder_Child | then whats the second time for? |
| 04:24.17 | ajmitch | separate messages |
| 04:24.18 | NightHawkTheSane | heroes has been kinda lame lately >.> |
| 04:24.33 | Shirik | Separate messages, it cut off so I don't spam the channel |
| 04:24.34 | ajmitch | the top one has been updating throughout the day |
| 04:24.43 | Shirik | If more than 3 lines exist, then it first tries to compress it into 3 lines |
| 04:24.50 | Shirik | if it can't, it gives up and gives the compressed 3 lines with the rest cut out |
| 04:25.12 | WobWork | hehe |
| 04:25.12 | WobWork | http://www.builderau.com.au/news/soa/Google-details-reboot-bug-Android-security-fixes/0,339028227,339293211,00.htm |
| 04:25.31 | WobWork | time to send an SMS to all the android users: "Hey, what's that command to 'rm' recursively from the root dir?" |
| 04:25.37 | *** join/#wowuidev azazrael (n=gamer@adsl-71-146-1-89.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 04:25.44 | kd3 | rofl |
| 04:25.45 | ccox | if we're going for andriod bugs - "execute everything I type as root" has to top the list |
| 04:25.51 | Dewin | Is that like /2 how do you leave a guild? |
| 04:26.08 | ccox | WobWork: and you're about 2 days behind on that one |
| 04:26.38 | Qzot | Have you guys gotten the servers back up yet? |
| 04:26.38 | WobWork | I take my time through my rss feeds |
| 04:27.01 | ccox | Dewin: "you have been reported AFK, type /afk clear to rejoin the battleground" |
| 04:27.41 | Shirik | !reload |
| 04:27.42 | Shiibot | AI routines & configuration reloaded |
| 04:27.42 | WobWork | ccox: Or "/bg Hey, <X> is an afker! type /afk <X> to flag him!" |
| 04:27.45 | Shirik | !serveralert |
| 04:27.54 | Shirik | WHY ARE YOU NOT TIMING OUT!! qq |
| 04:27.56 | ccox | WobWork: oooh, I haven't seen that one yet |
| 04:28.02 | Thunder_Child | !fail |
| 04:28.04 | Jamash | backslash n was always good |
| 04:28.11 | kd3 | shame that they fixed \n |
| 04:28.17 | kd3 | I liked abusing that to quickly log out |
| 04:28.27 | Shiibot | SERVERALERT: | November 11th, 2008 7:50PM PST |
| 04:28.27 | Shiibot | Maintenance Update | We are currently working to bring all realms back online. Additionally, information will be sent shortly to all characters through the in-game mail system. This message will provide further details concerning today's mail issue. |
| 04:28.27 | Shiibot | Thank you for your understanding. | November 10, 2008, 12:10PM PST |
| 04:28.40 | Shirik | DIE |
| 04:28.46 | WobWork | hehe |
| 04:28.50 | ccox | Shirik: your bot is SLOW |
| 04:28.58 | Shirik | no, wow's servers are slow |
| 04:29.00 | WobWork | !serveralert |
| 04:29.05 | Shirik | my bot is having troubles with timeouts |
| 04:29.07 | ccox | Shirik: is that the short yellow bot? |
| 04:29.07 | Jamash | ideally shiibot would check every few minutes and report to the channel only when the message changes |
| 04:29.08 | WobWork | not cached? |
| 04:29.16 | Shirik | WobWork: No, and also only I can do it :) |
| 04:29.20 | Thunder_Child | ~lart ccox |
| 04:29.20 | purl | nukes ccox with a single large nuke |
| 04:29.22 | Shirik | that's not a bad idea Jamash |
| 04:29.35 | Shirik | but based on my current architecture, not entirely easy |
| 04:29.52 | WobWork | Shirik: pft, if only you can use it, I call it a spambot =P |
| 04:30.13 | ccox | or, is there an intermediate site that caches the reports? |
| 04:31.09 | Cidan | so |
| 04:31.17 | Cidan | right now I'm just coding Conspiracy, while offline |
| 04:31.18 | Cidan | damn it |
| 04:31.19 | Shirik | oh..... |
| 04:31.26 | Shirik | From documentation: "The amount of time to wait is specified as the value parameter, in seconds." |
| 04:31.36 | Shirik | From code: co:settimeout(10000, 't'); |
| 04:31.38 | Shirik | dododo |
| 04:32.02 | Shirik | !reload |
| 04:32.03 | Shiibot | AI routines & configuration reloaded |
| 04:32.04 | Shirik | !serveralert |
| 04:32.19 | WobWork | !failrik |
| 04:32.19 | Thunder_Child | ~shiibot |
| 04:32.20 | purl | my slower, dumber, less evolved companion bot. but the sex is great. |
| 04:32.23 | Shirik | me cries :( |
| 04:32.26 | WobWork | ~failrik |
| 04:32.27 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 04:32.51 | Shiibot | SERVERALERT: | November 11th, 2008 7:50PM PST |
| 04:32.51 | Shiibot | Maintenance Update | We are currently working to bring all realms back online. Additionally, information will be sent shortly to all characters through the in-game mail system. This message will provide further details concerning today's mail issue. |
| 04:32.51 | Shiibot | Thank you for your understanding. | November 10, 2008, 12:10PM PST |
| 04:33.07 | Thunder_Child | getting faster Shirik |
| 04:34.10 | Shirik | The real question is how can I automate it without screwing up the spam capabilities |
| 04:34.19 | Shirik | I would need a second thread |
| 04:34.31 | Thunder_Child | a delay like purl? |
| 04:34.37 | *** part/#wowuidev azazrael (n=gamer@adsl-71-146-1-89.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 04:34.39 | Shirik | no |
| 04:34.50 | Shirik | I mean how can it analyze incoming messages so it can lock the channel while reading the server alerts |
| 04:35.02 | ccox | or another site that grabs the data periodically, and you pull from that site (quickly) instead of going direct |
| 04:35.10 | Shirik | that's it |
| 04:35.11 | Thunder_Child | and you want to lock the channel why? |
| 04:35.20 | Shirik | I can create a cron job to pull the site, good idea ccox |
| 04:35.25 | Dewin | It'd be nice to have a periodic "The server message has changed" announcement... |
| 04:35.48 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: The PURPOSE of shiibot is to analyze spam conditions and temporarily lock the channel |
| 04:35.57 | Shirik | he was created when we were having all those spam attacks a few months ago |
| 04:36.01 | WobWork | Dewin: but how do you konw to reset it? |
| 04:36.04 | Thunder_Child | right |
| 04:36.17 | Shirik | So, if I'm busy waiting for wow's servers to respond |
| 04:36.19 | Shirik | and an attacker comes in |
| 04:36.28 | Shirik | I'll be locked up in trying to read the server |
| 04:36.39 | Thunder_Child | but why would Shiibot lock it's self up |
| 04:36.47 | Shirik | because it's reading wow's serveralert |
| 04:36.51 | ccox | because it likes bondage |
| 04:37.02 | WobWork | how about having another bot do the stuff you want? =) |
| 04:37.15 | WobWork | while keeping shiibot pure =P |
| 04:37.19 | Thunder_Child | oh...ok, i get it now |
| 04:37.27 | Jamash | let's all write bots and they can chat with each other |
| 04:37.32 | WobWork | I'm a bot |
| 04:37.39 | Qzot | Shilbot the Paladin. |
| 04:37.39 | Jamash | a meatbot |
| 04:37.41 | Thunder_Child | i thought you were worried about someone spaming Shiibot's stuff making Shiibot lock it'self up |
| 04:37.50 | Shirik | WobWork: I already have too many nicks :) |
| 04:37.53 | ccox | Jamah - I think they already did that, and called it 4chan |
| 04:38.14 | WobWork | Call it "HeeBot" |
| 04:41.00 | ccox | hmm, forums came up for a moment - and took me to the LK beta forums |
| 04:42.08 | ccox | Support Vector Machines - why can't any 2 researchers agree on how they should work? |
| 04:42.13 | Dewin | Realms are coming up. |
| 04:42.40 | ccox | who's taking bets on bounces and general instability? |
| 04:43.00 | Dewin | 50 macaroons on the black horse, sir. |
| 04:44.04 | *** join/#wowuidev d87 (n=x@host89-251-107-19.hnet.ru) |
| 04:44.41 | Dewin | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/164.html is so what I've been doing on my gnome |
| 04:46.20 | NeoTron | lol |
| 04:46.27 | NeoTron | Moonrunner has a 6.6k queue |
| 04:46.40 | kd3 | rofl. that's cause everyone got assigned to it |
| 04:47.08 | NeoTron | I am aware. still kind of amusing |
| 04:47.10 | kd3 | whee, another 7 popped |
| 04:47.11 | abyxx | say i have a Frame called fooframe. what does fooframe.texture = sometexture do? does it do the same thing as fooframe:SetTexture(...)? |
| 04:47.18 | Jamash | nope |
| 04:47.23 | NeoTron | and this is why wow has more than 3 servers |
| 04:47.46 | NeoTron | abyxx: it just stores the value in the with "texture" as the key |
| 04:48.00 | NeoTron | a "frame" is just a hashmap like all lua "objects" |
| 04:48.18 | abyxx | it store the value in the what? |
| 04:48.54 | NeoTron | in fooframe |
| 04:50.04 | NeoTron | ah my server is up |
| 04:50.09 | Cidan | the second argument that is passed to something attached to OnUpdate |
| 04:50.11 | abyxx | does it actually do anything? |
| 04:50.13 | Cidan | what is it? |
| 04:50.23 | Cidan | like, time elapsed since last update call? |
| 04:50.39 | Cidan | nm |
| 04:50.44 | Cidan | sure is |
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| 04:54.58 | Shirik | I wonder |
| 04:55.00 | Shirik | !serveralert |
| 04:55.00 | Shiibot | Could not retrieve serveralert message: connection refused |
| 04:55.03 | Shirik | oh yay |
| 04:55.11 | Shirik | At least that works |
| 04:56.59 | Thunder_Child | one would think that means it isnt working..... |
| 04:57.47 | Dewin | it refused your spurious advances? You should offer more chocolate first. |
| 04:58.21 | Qzot | Heh. Zuluhed is one of the few servers thats not whacked. |
| 04:58.55 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: It correctly detected that wow's launcher server is borked |
| 04:59.40 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, of most of the people around here you should be able to tell when i am joking |
| 04:59.46 | Shirik | :( |
| 04:59.56 | Shirik | too busy coding auto-serveralert-detection! |
| 05:00.06 | ccox | Qzot - groan |
| 05:00.11 | kd3 | whee stormrage |
| 05:00.13 | kd3 | wru medivh? |
| 05:00.18 | Qzot | ccox: hehe |
| 05:00.21 | Thunder_Child | you know you used to be a lot less.....intense |
| 05:02.00 | Shirik | Okay, no way this is going to work the first time |
| 05:02.02 | Shirik | !reload |
| 05:02.04 | Shirik | er |
| 05:02.07 | Shirik | well, like I said |
| 05:02.30 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, new update message, i htink.. |
| 05:02.34 | NightHawkTheSane | alert message* |
| 05:04.05 | *** join/#wowuidev Shiibot (n=Shiibot@WoWUIDev/Nospam) |
| 05:04.05 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shiibot] by ChanServ |
| 05:04.27 | bleeter | well, ordinn, I hope you're satisfied. I've cleaned my house... a little bit! you are shameless! |
| 05:04.27 | NightHawkTheSane | realms are online and/or coming up.. |
| 05:05.38 | Thunder_Child | ~odd bleeter |
| 05:05.39 | purl | ACTION stares at bleeter oddly |
| 05:05.39 | Shiibot | New WoW-US Server Alert: November 11th, 2008 7:50PM PST | | Maintenance Update | | Testing the server alert detections! | |
| 05:05.39 | Shiibot | We are currently working to bring all realms back online. Additionally, information will be sent shortly to all characters through the in-game mail system. This message will provide further details concerning today's mail issue. | |
| 05:05.39 | Shiibot | Thank you for your understanding. | | | November 10, 2008, 12:10PM PST | |
| 05:05.43 | Duman | man, oh man |
| 05:05.46 | Shirik | oh |
| 05:05.47 | Duman | poor servers |
| 05:05.52 | Shirik | I think it works, yay! |
| 05:05.53 | Shiibot | New WoW-US Server Alert: November 11th, 2008 7:50PM PST | | Maintenance Update | | Testing the server alert detections! | |
| 05:05.53 | Shiibot | We are currently working to bring all realms back online. Additionally, information will be sent shortly to all characters through the in-game mail system. This message will provide further details concerning today's mail issue. | |
| 05:05.53 | Shiibot | Thank you for your understanding. | | | November 10, 2008, 12:10PM PST | |
| 05:05.56 | Shirik | or not |
| 05:05.57 | Shirik | !quit |
| 05:06.00 | Thunder_Child | lol |
| 05:06.07 | Duman | lol |
| 05:06.12 | Shirik | let me test this in #shiibot |
| 05:06.18 | ccox | yes, let you |
| 05:06.24 | Thunder_Child | have to love it when the no spam bot spams more than anything else |
| 05:06.30 | Shirik | :( |
| 05:06.34 | mikma | shirik: can we have the same but as eu please! |
| 05:06.42 | Shirik | one thing at a time! |
| 05:07.44 | ccox | if he gets the cron job/caching to work correctly - that shouldn't be too difficult |
| 05:07.45 | *** join/#wowuidev Shiibot (n=Shiibot@WoWUIDev/Nospam) |
| 05:07.45 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shiibot] by ChanServ |
| 05:08.06 | ccox | of course, I don't think Shirik speaks EU :-) |
| 05:09.24 | Shirik | problem is |
| 05:09.27 | Shirik | I dunno if my cron job is running |
| 05:09.29 | Thunder_Child | everyone speaks ewww |
| 05:09.34 | Thunder_Child | s/ewww/EU/ |
| 05:09.42 | Shirik | Because of Connecting to launcher.worldofwarcraft.com|12.129.242.21|:80... failed: Connection refused. |
| 05:10.07 | ccox | No, je ne parle pas EU. |
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| 05:10.43 | Shirik | You can speak french? |
| 05:10.55 | Thunder_Child | no, he only types it |
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| 05:12.06 | Kraps | wow, this shit's crazy! |
| 05:12.08 | NightHawkTheSane | I dont suppose anyone here uses TitanPanel? |
| 05:13.19 | ccox | Kraps: which part is crazy? |
| 05:13.28 | NightHawkTheSane | ccox: the shit part, obviously. |
| 05:13.40 | Kraps | the whole shit |
| 05:13.43 | linear` | whats |
| 05:13.44 | linear` | the zone called |
| 05:13.47 | linear` | that deathknights start in? |
| 05:13.53 | Kraps | epl |
| 05:13.57 | Jamash | Acherus |
| 05:13.59 | Kraps | ya? |
| 05:14.01 | linear` | acherus? |
| 05:14.03 | mikma | epl |
| 05:14.08 | linear` | kk |
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| 05:14.52 | Kraps | my server isnt up yet |
| 05:15.28 | mikma | awww |
| 05:15.34 | mikma | poor little chap |
| 05:16.11 | Kraps | even the one with my lonely BE pally |
| 05:16.58 | ccox | well, one of my 10 realms is up |
| 05:17.09 | kd3 | geez at the wow torrent on pirate bay |
| 05:17.13 | kd3 | 4400 peers |
| 05:17.50 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub: ping? |
| 05:17.54 | linear` | in the who window |
| 05:17.56 | linear` | is death knight |
| 05:17.57 | Tekkub | ow |
| 05:18.00 | linear` | spelled Deathknight or Death Knight? |
| 05:18.07 | kd3 | the latter |
| 05:18.12 | Kraps | ccox: 10 realms? |
| 05:18.33 | ccox | lots of lowbies for addon testing |
| 05:18.49 | Shirik | okay, now, does anyone have a recommendation on how I can know if my cronjob is executing? Some easy way? |
| 05:19.14 | Shirik | If I add an export to the shell script, will it show up in other shells? It only shows up in the current environment, right? |
| 05:19.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub: can you take a look at this zip and see if it works right? http://www.asylumsw.com/misc/TradeBook.zip |
| 05:19.32 | kd3 | crontab -l? |
| 05:19.37 | Tekkub | looks fine |
| 05:19.37 | Shirik | I know it's in the crontab |
| 05:19.42 | Shirik | I just don't know if it's executing :) |
| 05:19.50 | Shirik | trust it? :) |
| 05:19.55 | Kraps | whats your opinion on reimbursement? |
| 05:20.04 | kd3 | have your script print a "hi. if you can see me, I'm working" debug message? |
| 05:20.12 | Shirik | Would I see it though? |
| 05:20.20 | Shirik | I figured it would just go to nowhere |
| 05:20.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub: hmm. >< well, cleanarchiver seems to make zips that windows doesn't barf on, so I guess ill start using that for now. |
| 05:20.32 | kd3 | depends on how you print it. firing off an email or something? |
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| 05:20.45 | Tekkub | yatta! |
| 05:20.48 | Shirik | Well I'll just assume it's working. We'll know soon enough I guess |
| 05:20.55 | Shirik | as soon as launcher.worldofwarcraft.com comes up we'll know |
| 05:22.16 | Kraps | more servers are up |
| 05:22.29 | Shirik | really? I don't see any |
| 05:22.29 | abyxx | why wouldn't the OnEnter or OnLeave event fire for my frame? |
| 05:23.30 | abyxx | i have the mouse enabled for my frame but the event never fires but it does fire for another one of my frames.... i can't figure out why it works for one but not the other |
| 05:23.38 | Kraps | Shirik: hmm? |
| 05:23.44 | Shirik | nm |
| 05:23.47 | Shirik | I needed to restart wow apparently |
| 05:24.10 | Cidan | Oh shit |
| 05:24.12 | Cidan | huge bug |
| 05:24.12 | Cidan | in wow |
| 05:24.15 | Cidan | Someone |
| 05:24.16 | Shirik | ? |
| 05:24.17 | Cidan | shit |
| 05:24.24 | Cidan | Unless this isn't a bug |
| 05:24.28 | Cidan | but pretttty sure this is |
| 05:24.30 | Kraps | or just go in and out of the realm list Shirik |
| 05:24.31 | Shirik | you got 5 million golds? |
| 05:24.35 | Cidan | all arena equipment is free |
| 05:24.38 | Shirik | didn't work Kraps |
| 05:24.38 | Cidan | like if you go there |
| 05:24.40 | Cidan | no cost |
| 05:24.42 | Cidan | for warlocks |
| 05:24.53 | Cidan | armor equipment in stormwind == no cost at all for warlocks |
| 05:25.04 | Jamash | :-O |
| 05:25.06 | Cidan | I have right now the entire set, at level 40 |
| 05:25.23 | Cidan | Everyone on my server is freaking out |
| 05:25.56 | mikma | lol |
| 05:26.36 | Kraps | maybe i should roll an RP server... |
| 05:26.51 | Jamash | is it just warlocks? |
| 05:26.56 | Cidan | and priests |
| 05:26.58 | Cidan | free eq |
| 05:27.00 | Cidan | Man |
| 05:27.04 | Cidan | someone is going to get fired hard today |
| 05:27.05 | Cidan | lol |
| 05:27.11 | Cidan | first, mail |
| 05:27.13 | Cidan | now, this |
| 05:27.31 | mikma | and lots of people are going to lose their free pvp epix |
| 05:28.55 | Shirik | they were always free >< |
| 05:29.02 | Shirik | people so lazy |
| 05:29.30 | Kraps | i thought warhammer was already released |
| 05:29.35 | Corrodias | indeed. pvp takes no effort or time. |
| 05:29.38 | Corrodias | raiding is much the same. |
| 05:29.40 | ccox | Cidan - wow, I hope that holds on other servers... |
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| 05:29.55 | Corrodias | world of warcraft, as a whole, can be won within 5 minutes. |
| 05:29.56 | Gngsk | Tekkub, is TG gonna have guides to 80 for tommorow? |
| 05:30.01 | Tekkub | no |
| 05:30.04 | Gngsk | okay, thx |
| 05:30.05 | Mundy[wrk] | anyone know the url that the login screen gets it's news and announcements |
| 05:30.08 | Corrodias | you win by realizing what you're doing and quitting the game. |
| 05:30.12 | Tekkub | you don't need guides |
| 05:30.18 | Gngsk | oh? |
| 05:30.21 | Gngsk | I didn't play beta |
| 05:30.35 | Tekkub | which is exactly why you don't need guides |
| 05:30.42 | Cidan | lol |
| 05:30.43 | Cidan | Welp |
| 05:30.45 | Corrodias | nobody needed a guide to 70... |
| 05:30.47 | Cidan | Servers will go back down again tonight |
| 05:30.53 | Gngsk | well |
| 05:30.57 | Corrodias | it's a very simple formula: get experience, get levels |
| 05:30.58 | Gngsk | I know what he's getting at and all |
| 05:31.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Corrodias: launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert |
| 05:31.10 | Tekkub | Corrodias, guides help streamline that |
| 05:31.26 | Gngsk | but after leveling with guides I dunno if I can go back |
| 05:31.30 | Corrodias | my browser cannot connect, ScytheBlade1 |
| 05:31.33 | Tekkub | but you don't need streamlining through BRAND NEW FUN SHIT |
| 05:31.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Then their server is down |
| 05:31.40 | Gngsk | I'll eat myself up if I find myself going back a zone |
| 05:31.46 | Corrodias | what did you want to show me? |
| 05:31.52 | Gngsk | Tekkub, I know I just wanna get a zone ahead of the rush real quick |
| 05:32.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Corrodias: didn't you ask? |
| 05:32.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh |
| 05:32.04 | Tekkub | don't skip ahead, you'll be fine |
| 05:32.05 | ScytheBlade1 | SOrry, wrong person |
| 05:32.06 | Mundy[wrk] | that was me scythe =) |
| 05:32.07 | ScytheBlade1 | *Sorry |
| 05:32.09 | Corrodias | :) |
| 05:32.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Mundy[wrk]: read my link ;) |
| 05:32.18 | Tekkub | I don't think NR is gonna be nearly the clusterfuck HF was |
| 05:32.32 | Mundy[wrk] | yeah i can't connect either |
| 05:32.33 | Corrodias | my recommendation, instead of rushing through the game and skipping ahead of other people, is to go do something else for a couple of weeks so the population spreads out a little |
| 05:33.04 | Gngsk | Corrodias, that'd be a great idea if I didn't have my first 25m raid 2 weeks after release |
| 05:33.08 | Corrodias | that's what i did for BC; i played a little mage alt for a couple of weeks before proceeding with my ol' druid. everything was smooth and stable. |
| 05:34.11 | ccox | Corrodias: that's almost exactly what I'm planning |
| 05:34.14 | Gngsk | anyway, I'm sure it'll be fine I'm just anxious |
| 05:34.17 | ccox | (got my mage to 56 last night) |
| 05:34.21 | Corrodias | i have no solution for you, then, but let me make sure i understand your motivation. are you intending to thoroughly explore the quests and areas after you're raidworthy? |
| 05:34.38 | Gngsk | yeah, definitely |
| 05:34.41 | Mundy[wrk] | Gngsk, imo the best way to level would be to pick 4 reliable guildies/friends and level in instances for the first week or so |
| 05:35.18 | Gngsk | Mundy[wrk], not a bad idea, but I'm also fairly new to this raiding guild so I haven't really filled any concrete niche yet |
| 05:35.48 | Corrodias | that makes sense, alright. i was going to say, if your answer was no, that it would be awfully silly to rush forward so you can see lots of repetetive raid content when it required you to skip some wonderful nonraid content. glad that's not the case. |
| 05:35.51 | Mundy[wrk] | do you have any irl friends you could party with |
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| 05:36.34 | Gngsk | nah, they're mostly casual and on other realms |
| 05:37.02 | Mundy[wrk] | ahk |
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| 05:37.12 | Mundy[wrk] | then yeah i guess you're going to be competing alot =/ |
| 05:37.18 | Mundy[wrk] | what realm are you playing on |
| 05:37.28 | Gngsk | us kargath, pve |
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| 05:38.21 | Cidan | man |
| 05:38.28 | Cidan | the S2 vendor in SW |
| 05:38.30 | Cidan | has like |
| 05:38.33 | Cidan | 2000 people in it |
| 05:41.01 | Shirik | on Eredar? |
| 05:41.01 | Shirik | ya |
| 05:41.11 | Cidan | It's insane. |
| 05:41.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub: i hope you're happy. i've re-zipped and re-uploaded all my mods now. >< |
| 05:41.33 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 05:41.39 | Tekkub | I don't have to download them do I? |
| 05:41.40 | Corrodias | funny |
| 05:41.48 | Corrodias | i wonder why people think they'll get to keep their free gear |
| 05:41.54 | Corrodias | don't they remember the last time this happened? |
| 05:42.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub: well, not if you want to >.> |
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| 05:42.27 | Corrodias | actually, i never heard the end result of all that. did they eventually track down and remove all the free shit? |
| 05:42.48 | Cidan | I'm sure. |
| 05:42.50 | Corrodias | last thing i read was just their assertion that they were dedicated to doing it, or something |
| 05:42.55 | Cidan | It would be trivial to check |
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| 05:43.58 | Corrodias | as long as they keep sale and trading records, and i think they do (jesus, that must be a massive set of logs, depending on how far back they go), it should be |
| 05:44.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Corrodias: i'd really hate to see their database logs, really |
| 05:44.34 | erikd | i'd love to see them |
| 05:44.48 | erikd | i'd love to work in their datacenter, that's gotta be so much fun |
| 05:45.08 | NightHawkTheSane | except when shit hits the fan |
| 05:45.13 | Corrodias | i'd love to learn more about their operation |
| 05:45.17 | Corrodias | not necessarily be involved |
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| 05:47.07 | WobWork | I suspect that watching their operation would be like a giant Jenga City with King Kong having "that time of month" |
| 05:47.25 | WobWork | Fascinating to see, but much more dangerous at ground zero =P |
| 05:47.42 | Corrodias | i know a customer support supervisor who could play the role of kong |
| 05:49.36 | abyxx | anyones' server just crash? |
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| 05:50.06 | Syzgyn | Nope |
| 05:51.18 | Tekkub | http://www.xkcd.com/ |
| 05:51.31 | Shirik | haha |
| 05:52.05 | abyxx | so far all of warlock'/priest s2 is free |
| 05:53.24 | abyxx | and the some of the rings/necks |
| 05:53.38 | Shirik | bleeter: Can you tell me what EU's server status page is? |
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| 06:05.32 | ccox | sigh, main realm still isn't up |
| 06:06.12 | Shirik | well, with things going wrong it's possible they stopped bringing them up to see wtf is going on |
| 06:06.14 | Shirik | just speculation, though |
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| 06:09.57 | batrick | destrodown |
| 06:10.15 | Mundy[wrk] | http://animalsaviors.org/ |
| 06:10.17 | Mundy[wrk] | jesus christ |
| 06:10.24 | Mundy[wrk] | that is the most fucked up thing i've seen in a long time |
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| 06:11.10 | Tekkub | everyone knows you don't skin a kitten, god |
| 06:11.15 | Tekkub | you wait a year till they're bigger |
| 06:11.19 | Tekkub | more fur |
| 06:11.56 | Corrodias | indeed |
| 06:12.04 | Corrodias | that would just be stupid |
| 06:12.06 | Mundy[wrk] | its still fucked up |
| 06:12.37 | Shirik | I'm not entirely sure I believe it |
| 06:12.38 | Corrodias | not only that, but cat fur is a good source of allergens, and cats are small and eat a lot. i call shennanigans on that whole concept. |
| 06:12.41 | Shirik | but if it is, that's kinda messed up |
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| 06:13.18 | Mundy[wrk] | watch the video |
| 06:13.26 | Mundy[wrk] | i doubt its cats and dogs |
| 06:13.30 | Mundy[wrk] | but its still really fucked up |
| 06:13.34 | AbsoRayne | all the pvp vendors are messed |
| 06:13.35 | Tekkub | "convulsing in agony is BS anyway |
| 06:13.37 | AbsoRayne | people are getting free gear. |
| 06:13.50 | Tekkub | you'd sedate them to make it easier :P |
| 06:13.51 | Mundy[wrk] | watch the video tekkub |
| 06:13.57 | Tekkub | no thanks |
| 06:14.09 | Mundy[wrk] | they dont sedate them |
| 06:14.13 | Mundy[wrk] | at least in the video they didnt |
| 06:14.26 | Mundy[wrk] | not medically anyway |
| 06:14.53 | Corrodias | chinese people are poor |
| 06:14.56 | Corrodias | they can't afford that |
| 06:15.08 | Mundy[wrk] | ^ |
| 06:15.10 | Mundy[wrk] | china is fucked |
| 06:15.26 | Tekkub | yea china's fucked... |
| 06:15.27 | Corrodias | good thing they're so good at math lul |
| 06:15.33 | Tekkub | who's the bored people here with no wow? |
| 06:15.35 | Tekkub | yea |
| 06:15.37 | Tekkub | thought so |
| 06:15.46 | Corrodias | i don't play WoW any more |
| 06:15.56 | Corrodias | thus i am lonely |
| 06:16.11 | Tekkub | I hear you can get a skinless cat for cheap |
| 06:17.26 | Cairenn | hey! no skinning the Cairenn! |
| 06:17.38 | ccox | hmm, still no main server |
| 06:17.45 | Tekkub | it's not going to work cair |
| 06:17.51 | Tekkub | you won't trick me into saying it |
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| 06:19.13 | Shirik | haha |
| 06:19.15 | Shirik | Cairenn |
| 06:19.19 | Shirik | you do this intentionally |
| 06:19.25 | Cairenn | do what? |
| 06:19.51 | Shirik | oh what bs |
| 06:20.12 | Cidan | Shirik: If I set the time between task calls for a task to 0, will it call it as often as possible? |
| 06:20.13 | Tekkub | http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2008/10/13519/ |
| 06:20.16 | Tekkub | tempting |
| 06:20.19 | Shirik | ummmm |
| 06:20.22 | Tekkub | you can get one for like $350 |
| 06:20.24 | Shirik | let me check real quick, good question |
| 06:20.50 | ccox | I don't think I could describe Cairenn as innocent, at least not with a straight face |
| 06:20.56 | Cairenn | ! |
| 06:21.12 | ccox | "instigant", maybe |
| 06:21.13 | Cairenn | big meanies, always picking on me |
| 06:21.54 | Shirik | yes Cidan |
| 06:22.00 | Shirik | BUT |
| 06:22.04 | ccox | although "instigant" sounds a bit like me, too |
| 06:22.04 | Shirik | be sure not to add a time dilation factor |
| 06:22.08 | Cidan | yeah |
| 06:22.09 | Cidan | wait |
| 06:22.09 | Shirik | because that will probably try to kill your FPS |
| 06:22.11 | Cidan | wh NOT |
| 06:22.13 | Cairenn | ccox: ;) |
| 06:22.17 | Cidan | okay |
| 06:22.20 | Cidan | will set it to 0 |
| 06:22.24 | Cidan | hm |
| 06:22.24 | Shirik | because, it multiplies it by t |
| 06:22.26 | Shirik | t is 0 |
| 06:22.30 | Cidan | oh then |
| 06:22.33 | Shirik | it will probably go into an infinite loop |
| 06:22.34 | Cidan | it will be 0 anyway |
| 06:22.45 | Cidan | yeah, it will, but I have it manually unsched |
| 06:22.59 | Shirik | so long as you only supply the first 2 parameters you should be ok |
| 06:23.08 | Shirik | ccox, only can use godiva, etc. |
| 06:23.09 | Cairenn | oooooohhhhhhhhh |
| 06:24.39 | ccox | seems like they've stopped bringing up realms |
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| 06:29.52 | Shirik | somebody in my guild is claiming the servers went down because the lich king attacked them, it's actually part of the event |
| 06:30.04 | erikd | riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight |
| 06:30.11 | Tekkub | lies |
| 06:30.21 | Tekkub | if you're talking to a guilding your sever isn't down |
| 06:30.26 | Qzot | I'm hearing of people being bumped offline. |
| 06:30.33 | Shirik | no it's not |
| 06:36.07 | Syzgyn | Ok, so apparently I fail at regex |
| 06:36.31 | Shirik | need help? |
| 06:36.39 | Syzgyn | please |
| 06:36.42 | Syzgyn | from this string: |
| 06:36.43 | Syzgyn | "1018|TInterface\\MoneyFrame\\UI-GoldIcon:12:12:2:0|t |
| 06:36.50 | Syzgyn | I need to get the 1018 and the Gold |
| 06:36.55 | Shirik | I have a regex debugger :) |
| 06:36.57 | Shirik | oh that's not a regex |
| 06:37.05 | Shirik | you need a Lua pattern |
| 06:37.18 | Syzgyn | are they not the same thing? |
| 06:37.26 | Shirik | lua patterns are not regexes, no |
| 06:37.37 | Syzgyn | ok then |
| 06:37.47 | Syzgyn | Apparently I fail at lua patterns then |
| 06:38.12 | Shirik | lua> return ("1018|TInterface\\MoneyFrame\\UI-GoldIcon:12:12:2:0|t"):match("(%d+).-(%d+):(%d+):(%d+):(%d+)|t") |
| 06:38.13 | lua_bot | Shirik: 1018, 12, 12, 2, 0 |
| 06:38.15 | Shirik | how's that? |
| 06:38.41 | Syzgyn | I only need the first number, and the string |
| 06:38.49 | Syzgyn | I can get the number, or the string |
| 06:38.56 | Syzgyn | but putting em together is messing me up |
| 06:39.14 | Shirik | wait |
| 06:39.18 | Shirik | you need the number, got that obviously |
| 06:39.22 | Shirik | and what string? |
| 06:39.28 | Shirik | 12:12:2:0? |
| 06:39.37 | Syzgyn | 1018 |
| 06:39.39 | Syzgyn | oh |
| 06:39.45 | Syzgyn | UI-GoldIcon |
| 06:39.49 | Shirik | ok |
| 06:39.52 | Syzgyn | specifically the Gold part |
| 06:39.53 | Shirik | you only want the last part? |
| 06:40.05 | Shirik | ok, what other possibilities are there? |
| 06:40.11 | Shirik | what are you trying to accomplish with this? |
| 06:40.11 | Syzgyn | Silver or Copper |
| 06:40.14 | Shirik | ok |
| 06:40.25 | Shirik | They're all UI-xxxIcon ? |
| 06:40.29 | Syzgyn | Yes |
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| 06:40.40 | Syzgyn | I'm pulling strings from the achievement API |
| 06:40.58 | Syzgyn | I was just getting the numbers, but it was being inaccurate if not all 3 were there |
| 06:41.15 | NightHawkTheSane | dammit. |
| 06:41.20 | Shirik | lua> ("1018|TInterface\\MoneyFrame\\UI-GoldIcon:12:12:2:0|t"):match("(%d+)\124T.-\\UI%-(.-)Icon:") |
| 06:41.20 | lua_bot | Shirik: 1018, Gold |
| 06:41.21 | Mundy[wrk] | anyone know of a roll tracking mod |
| 06:41.23 | Shirik | how's that? |
| 06:41.24 | NightHawkTheSane | the realm my rogue is on isn't up. i kinda wanted to play him some. >< |
| 06:41.49 | Syzgyn | That'd be it! |
| 06:42.37 | AbsoRayne | night all |
| 06:43.40 | Syzgyn | It's not working in game though :V |
| 06:43.51 | Syzgyn | nevermind |
| 06:45.15 | Syzgyn | Thanks Shirik |
| 06:45.19 | Shirik | np |
| 06:45.22 | Syzgyn | ~hug Shirik |
| 06:45.23 | purl | ACTION hugs Shirik |
| 06:46.54 | Tekkub | 314110 |
| 06:46.56 | Tekkub | hrm... |
| 06:46.59 | Tekkub | it's trying to get pi |
| 06:47.15 | NightHawkTheSane | i want some pi. |
| 06:47.32 | Thunder_Child | is not pi |
| 06:47.37 | Jamash | pi and ice cream |
| 06:50.31 | NightHawkTheSane | some nice pumpkin pi, with whipped cream, and maybe some phi drizzled on top |
| 06:52.04 | Tekkub | pumpkin ice cream pie >> all |
| 06:52.19 | Shirik | These guys are pretty good. Anyone ever heard of Twilightning? |
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| 06:56.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub: heh, nice twitter. ;) |
| 06:56.14 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 06:56.20 | Mundy[wrk] | is there an event that triggers when someone /rolls? i cant seem to find much on http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_A-Z_(full_list) |
| 06:56.37 | Tekkub | went to grab a soda and tell roomie, but he sleepink, so I had to share elsewhere |
| 06:56.38 | Syzgyn | It'd be a system message of some sort wouldnt it? |
| 06:56.48 | Tekkub | yes |
| 06:56.55 | Mundy[wrk] | thats what i was thinking |
| 06:56.55 | Tekkub | everything's a damn system message |
| 06:57.06 | Mundy[wrk] | i can only find the events for the automated loot rolls though |
| 06:57.12 | Tekkub | logins, rolls, system messages |
| 06:57.22 | Tekkub | uh... one sec |
| 06:57.41 | Shirik | Mundy-: CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM |
| 06:57.42 | Tekkub | http://github.com/tekkub/greedbeacon/tree/master/GreedBeacon.lua |
| 06:57.43 | Shirik | Mundy[wrk]* |
| 06:57.49 | Tekkub | pick that apart, it catches them |
| 06:57.52 | Mundy[wrk] | thanks Shirik |
| 06:57.55 | Mundy[wrk] | thanks tek |
| 06:57.58 | Shirik | Also |
| 06:57.59 | Shirik | ~devtools |
| 06:58.00 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
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| 06:58.16 | Tekkub | spew >> devtools :) |
| 06:59.07 | Mundy[wrk] | ah right |
| 06:59.08 | Mundy[wrk] | nice |
| 06:59.21 | Tekkub | besides these days you can watch events really easily... f:SetScript("OnEvent", print) |
| 06:59.26 | Tekkub | and register your events |
| 06:59.42 | Tekkub | obviously you need a frame to attach that to |
| 07:00.16 | Mundy[wrk] | yeah |
| 07:00.27 | Mundy[wrk] | addons are fun |
| 07:00.28 | Shirik | uh, /dtchatevent is much niceer :) |
| 07:01.07 | Tekkub | lies! |
| 07:04.34 | Cidan | I'm surprised they haven't shutdown the servers yet. |
| 07:05.30 | Tekkub | "Buy a Leopard License, and then go and download Leopard from one of a plethora of Torrent websites. " |
| 07:05.32 | Tekkub | "Who cares, just download it. This is the most common method, and also the least legal." |
| 07:05.34 | Tekkub | heh |
| 07:06.07 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, the only difference between a downloaded copy of leopard and a purchased one is $130 |
| 07:06.28 | NightHawkTheSane | (or whatever it is they're charging for it these days) |
| 07:06.54 | klip | poor animal |
| 07:07.29 | Thunder_Child | cloneing is legal now |
| 07:07.42 | Thunder_Child | cloning* |
| 07:08.05 | klip | yeah but how do you download even a clone? :p |
| 07:08.23 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, go to bed, fix it tomorrow |
| 07:08.24 | Tekkub | Shirik, just go to sleep |
| 07:08.25 | Tekkub | tool |
| 07:08.32 | Shirik | then I'll miss the serveralert |
| 07:08.40 | Tekkub | so? |
| 07:08.46 | Shirik | And I won't know if it's working! |
| 07:08.48 | Tekkub | here do this |
| 07:08.51 | Tekkub | go to bed |
| 07:09.24 | Shirik | and? |
| 07:09.30 | Shirik | Was there a second part of that? |
| 07:09.32 | Shirik | Or just "go to bed" |
| 07:09.39 | Shirik | rofl |
| 07:09.41 | klip | lol |
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| 07:09.47 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, just go to bed |
| 07:09.50 | Shirik | hi Tekkub |
| 07:09.52 | klip | haha |
| 07:09.55 | Shirik | obviously freenode disagreed with you |
| 07:10.04 | Tekkub | and why is my connection being fucktardery tonight |
| 07:10.06 | Shirik | it didn't even let me see what you were going to say |
| 07:10.08 | Tekkub | paused the wrath dvd download... lets see if I stay on now |
| 07:10.16 | Tekkub | here do this |
| 07:10.18 | Tekkub | go to bed |
| 07:10.22 | Tekkub | if you can't sleep, come back in an hour and check |
| 07:10.24 | Tekkub | if it's not up, take a drink, GOTO 01 |
| 07:10.29 | Shirik | 10? |
| 07:10.48 | Tekkub | *sigh* |
| 07:10.57 | Shirik | cmon, pro basic programmers always programmed in 10s |
| 07:10.58 | Tekkub | can't even make a fucking nerd joke |
| 07:11.15 | Tekkub | hey I was like *8* when I did BASIC |
| 07:11.19 | Shirik | So was I! |
| 07:11.22 | Shirik | I was in... 5th grade |
| 07:11.25 | Shirik | what's that |
| 07:11.33 | NightHawkTheSane | ~9 |
| 07:11.34 | purl | hmm... 9 is less than 10. the standard port for DISCARD |
| 07:11.34 | Tekkub | uh |
| 07:11.44 | Shirik | I wrote a pitcher tracking program for my brother's all-star team |
| 07:11.45 | Tekkub | well I was 17 when I gadeated |
| 07:11.45 | NightHawkTheSane | ... |
| 07:11.48 | Tekkub | that's 12th grade |
| 07:11.58 | Tekkub | so grade + 5? |
| 07:12.12 | Shirik | Well I was 18 when I graduated so |
| 07:12.13 | NightHawkTheSane | sure, roughly |
| 07:12.16 | Shirik | 5 or 6 |
| 07:12.24 | Tekkub | <--- summer BD |
| 07:12.25 | NightHawkTheSane | it depends on your birthday, and how it syncs up with school years |
| 07:12.29 | Shirik | <-- Jan |
| 07:12.32 | NightHawkTheSane | it could probably be 4-6 |
| 07:13.24 | Tekkub | it was before 5th grade for me |
| 07:13.24 | Shirik | Tekkub is more pro than me |
| 07:13.24 | Shirik | BUT |
| 07:13.28 | Shirik | I WAS ALSO PROGRAMMING IN DBASE AT 5th GRADE! |
| 07:13.30 | Shirik | so RAWR |
| 07:13.43 | Tekkub | 5th was a wasted year, they were rebuilding the school so we were in this new emty building that later became the town "visitor's center" |
| 07:14.05 | Tekkub | all I did that year was destroy my math book with my compass |
| 07:14.15 | Tekkub | I was *soooooooo* bored |
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| 07:14.46 | Tekkub | oh and once I fucked with the TV's controls on the back cause I hated the stupid video they had us watching |
| 07:14.49 | Tekkub | ah good times |
| 07:15.22 | Shirik | ok I go lay down |
| 07:15.23 | Shirik | bye byes |
| 07:15.28 | Tekkub | good |
| 07:15.50 | Tekkub | oh look the message is up now |
| 07:16.01 | Shirik|zZz | I hate you |
| 07:16.04 | Tekkub | I KNEW IT |
| 07:16.09 | Tekkub | LIAR! |
| 07:16.11 | Shirik|zZz | I learned from Cairenn |
| 07:16.28 | Cairenn | lol |
| 07:16.30 | Tekkub | Hickory smoked is so crazy WHAT WORNG WITH YOU |
| 07:16.49 | Cairenn | hickory smoked is yummy yummy yummy |
| 07:17.13 | Shirik|zZz | Cairenn doesn't get it |
| 07:17.15 | Shirik|zZz | probably a good thing |
| 07:17.27 | Cairenn | probably :p |
| 07:17.28 | Tekkub | FROM A CUP |
| 07:17.47 | Tekkub | Cairenn, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO0kRE5OTZI |
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| 07:18.19 | Tekkub | gotta rewatch it every few months |
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| 07:18.45 | [SW]Dodge | wtb a "Update #4 - It also looks like the EU Downloader for Wrath of the Lich King is available. " news+link on mmo champ :( |
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| 07:20.39 | Wobin | http://www.foddy.net/Athletics.html |
| 07:21.38 | linear` | 1.5 meters |
| 07:21.40 | linear` | im so good |
| 07:24.07 | NightHawkTheSane | woo! -0.5 meters |
| 07:24.09 | Tekkub | YOU MAKEA MY TEETH HURT SO BAD! |
| 07:24.18 | Mikk | 2.5 meters! |
| 07:25.32 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, oh, -1 meter~! |
| 07:25.59 | Wobin | there totally should be a prize for the largest negative distance =P |
| 07:26.14 | Mikk | i wonder if you can do flips |
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| 07:26.55 | Wobin | hehe, apparently arena vendors are giving away free loot |
| 07:27.04 | Mikk | 3.6! |
| 07:27.11 | Mikk | doh, again |
| 07:27.15 | Jamash | 4.5 |
| 07:27.15 | linear` | i managed to get to 6.2 with just q and w |
| 07:27.16 | Tekkub | not mine! |
| 07:28.27 | NightHawkTheSane | woo! 13.5 meters! suck it! |
| 07:28.35 | Wobin | rofl |
| 07:28.41 | Wobin | if you make it to 50m |
| 07:28.43 | Wobin | there are hurdles =P |
| 07:28.58 | NightHawkTheSane | >.> thats not fair |
| 07:29.58 | linear` | how do u get so high |
| 07:29.58 | Mikk | .... |
| 07:30.12 | Mikk | seriously whoever made those controls needs to be shot |
| 07:30.18 | Mikk | it's not like there any logic to them >.< |
| 07:30.25 | Tekkub | qwerty? |
| 07:30.28 | Mikk | HEY, HOW DO YA LIKE THIS ONE! *ctrl-w* |
| 07:31.05 | Shirik|zZz | hrm |
| 07:31.06 | Shirik|zZz | it didn't work |
| 07:31.14 | linear` | k i figured out |
| 07:31.19 | Tekkub | that's because YOU DIDN'T GO TO BED |
| 07:31.20 | linear` | u can just spam qw |
| 07:31.22 | linear` | to go super far |
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| 07:33.49 | Shirik|zZz | sigh |
| 07:33.53 | Shirik|zZz | I forgot to put -f in my shell script |
| 07:35.04 | Tekkub | that's what happens WHEN YOU SHOULD BE IN BED |
| 07:35.12 | Shirik|zZz | no |
| 07:35.14 | Shirik|zZz | must fix bot |
| 07:35.29 | Tekkub | THAT WAS MORE THAN TEN LIES |
| 07:35.34 | Shirik|zZz | I went to bed for a bit, finished watching emperor's new school |
| 07:35.38 | Shirik|zZz | then it was over and I came back to check |
| 07:35.38 | Shirik|zZz | ok? |
| 07:36.00 | Tekkub | I COUNTED THAT ONE! |
| 07:36.14 | Tekkub | someone make OSeX download faster :P |
| 07:36.14 | Shiibot | New WoW-US Server Alert: November 11th, 2008 9:20PM PST | | Maintenance Update | |
| 07:36.14 | Shiibot | Realms are being brought back online now and we expect all realms to be playable within the next hour. Please check your in-game mail for more information about today's extended down time. Thank you all once again for your continued patience. |
| 07:36.14 | Shiibot | Thank you for your understanding. | | | November 10, 2008, 12:10PM PST | |
| 07:36.22 | Shirik|zZz | ok, so it's juts my cron script that's not working |
| 07:36.31 | Shirik|zZz | the Lua part works perfectly |
| 07:36.49 | Shirik|zZz | is this not valid to put in my crontab? |
| 07:36.50 | Shirik|zZz | * * * * * /home/mpdelbuono/spambot/updatealert.sh |
| 07:37.38 | NightHawkTheSane | is that set +x? |
| 07:37.53 | NightHawkTheSane | you might want to consider doing /bin/sh /home/blah/updatealert.sh |
| 07:38.02 | NightHawkTheSane | (or wahtever shell you want it to execute with) |
| 07:38.08 | Shirik|zZz | it is set +x, but I'll try |
| 07:39.58 | Shirik|zZz | oh I had it set to mode 744 |
| 07:40.04 | Shirik|zZz | so maybe whatever user that cron runs as couldn't do it |
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| 07:40.28 | NightHawkTheSane | most likely. |
| 07:40.38 | Shirik|zZz | still nothing no :( |
| 07:41.05 | Shirik|zZz | well it's definitely TRYING to do something |
| 07:41.05 | Shirik|zZz | Nov 12 02:40:01 localhost cron[10147]: (root) CMD (/bin/bash /home/mpdelbuono/spambot/updatealert.sh) |
| 07:41.15 | klip | is your cron running? :p |
| 07:41.21 | klip | ah |
| 07:41.23 | klip | I see |
| 07:41.26 | klip | nvm |
| 07:41.39 | Shirik|zZz | maybe |
| 07:41.43 | Shirik|zZz | maybe, I use wget |
| 07:41.48 | Shirik|zZz | could it be putting it in the wrong place? |
| 07:43.31 | Shirik|zZz | I think it was putting it in the working directory of cron :) |
| 07:43.32 | Shirik|zZz | fun |
| 07:43.49 | bleeter | Shirik|zZz: nfi |
| 07:43.58 | Shirik|zZz | ? |
| 07:44.02 | bleeter | oh, that was from some time ago.. guess you're past that now |
| 07:44.07 | Shirik|zZz | oh no |
| 07:44.10 | bleeter | 16:53 #WoWUIDev: <@Shirik> bleeter: Can you tell me what EU's server status page is? |
| 07:44.12 | Shirik|zZz | didn't you tell me to earlier? |
| 07:44.16 | bleeter | nope |
| 07:44.16 | Shirik|zZz | like you asked for that feature? |
| 07:44.20 | bleeter | well, if I did |
| 07:44.24 | Shirik|zZz | I must have you confused with someone else |
| 07:44.31 | Shirik|zZz | yayaya |
| 07:44.32 | Shirik|zZz | works now |
| 07:44.33 | bleeter | it would've been a stunning piece of sleep talking and long distance communications |
| 07:44.42 | Shirik|zZz | Just to double check... |
| 07:44.44 | Shirik|zZz | !quit |
| 07:45.13 | bleeter | don't forget to rate limit check your cron, you don't want no nasty 3x30sec timeouts having the script stumble over it's own feet ;) |
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| 07:45.43 | Shirik|zZz | It's done by two separate processes |
| 07:46.00 | Shirik|zZz | cron can fail for all I care |
| 07:46.07 | Shirik|zZz | the bot will continue, it just checks the file asynchronusly |
| 07:46.19 | bleeter | i didn't read scrollback much, just what you asked and you were mumbling about cron |
| 07:46.20 | Shiibot | New WoW-US Server Alert: November 11th, 2008 9:20PM PST | | Maintenance Update | |
| 07:46.20 | Shiibot | Realms are being brought back online now and we expect all realms to be playable within the next hour. Please check your in-game mail for more information about today's extended down time. Thank you all once again for your continued patience. |
| 07:46.20 | Shiibot | Thank you for your understanding. | | | November 10, 2008, 12:10PM PST | |
| 07:46.26 | Shirik|zZz | yay |
| 07:46.39 | Shirik|zZz | I need to teach it how to deal with blank lines better |
| 07:46.41 | Shirik|zZz | but for now, close enough |
| 07:46.47 | bleeter | course the *real* trick is to somehow identify when all realms are offline, and ignore the server alert ;) |
| 07:47.13 | bleeter | but alas, such sane network diagnostics by customers is in extreme EULA/ToS violation territoty |
| 07:47.34 | bleeter | hence, I'd be very interested if you manage to work out how the hell to do it ;) |
| 07:47.37 | bleeter | toodles! |
| 07:47.37 | Shirik|zZz | well |
| 07:47.42 | Shirik|zZz | couldn't we use their server status page? |
| 07:47.45 | Shirik|zZz | Anyway, I go to sleep now |
| 07:47.45 | bleeter | no |
| 07:47.48 | bleeter | I mean |
| 07:48.03 | bleeter | without referincg their probably incorect/unavailable websites |
| 07:48.05 | bleeter | ;) |
| 07:48.06 | Shirik|zZz | ah |
| 07:48.15 | bleeter | ie |
| 07:48.19 | bleeter | yeah |
| 07:48.20 | bleeter | :P |
| 07:48.23 | bleeter | rest well mate |
| 07:52.01 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, are you nuking dates again |
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| 09:13.51 | Cidan | man |
| 09:13.54 | Cidan | 4 am already |
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| 09:17.21 | leethal | I totally do not grok LibStub. Any write-ups around? |
| 09:20.33 | leethal | hmm. Is it so that you can have multiple versions of a library running at the same time? |
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| 09:33.49 | Elkano | leethal, multiple major version but only the recent minor per major |
| 09:34.01 | Elkano | www.wowwiki.com/LibStub |
| 09:41.48 | leethal | yay, thanks |
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| 09:59.34 | Neuro_Medivh | sigh.. have the devs ever answered whether the servers will be LK accessable all at midnight EST, or each at their own midnight server time |
| 10:01.45 | Fisker- | Midnight EST as far as i recall |
| 10:03.30 | Neuro_Medivh | that's what I was afraid of |
| 10:05.27 | Nom- | Neuro_Medivh: Consider yourself lucky that retail stores where you are don't get fined for handing out copies of lich king before midnight friday morning |
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| 10:10.49 | Neuro_Medivh | yeah... I'm gonna scour the local area for a 7-11 |
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| 10:23.58 | Kalroth | it's cladhaire's evil clones :( |
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| 10:27.19 | leethal | hehe, local WotLK = not not ToggleAchievementFrame |
| 10:27.27 | Kalroth | wat |
| 10:27.44 | ZorbaTHut | I've done stuff like that :D |
| 10:27.48 | leethal | from LibSimpleOptions |
| 10:28.08 | leethal | gotta love apis where people have to do guesswork like that =) |
| 10:28.39 | tlund | 12 hours 30 minutes until LK is released here in europe :) |
| 10:28.40 | leethal | there's no GetReleaseNumber() (or something similar)? |
| 10:28.54 | ZorbaTHut | personally I just got the build info, but the achievement frame is probably faster honestly |
| 10:29.03 | leethal | tlund: yes yes yes. Gief finished at work so that I can fetch a thick jacket and coffee and get in line! |
| 10:29.13 | tlund | haha :) |
| 10:29.31 | leethal | I pre-ordered, but still. I love release queues |
| 10:29.54 | krka | wait, isn't the achievement frame there in all releases now? |
| 10:30.08 | leethal | yes, so it's pointless now |
| 10:30.41 | leethal | I guess it was useful when people wanted the code to work in both live and beta? |
| 10:30.55 | krka | i suppose so |
| 10:33.08 | leethal | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/101681 =) |
| 10:33.47 | Kalroth | >< |
| 10:39.22 | Corrodias | people who preorder should be on separate queues on the realms |
| 10:39.44 | Corrodias | also separate servers |
| 10:39.49 | ZorbaTHut | krka, I've got some test-to-see-if-it's-3.0 code that I haven't yet removed |
| 10:39.55 | Corrodias | and, when technologically feasible, on separate planets |
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| 11:03.12 | Shiibot | New WoW-US Server Alert: November 12, 2008, 3:00AM PST | |
| 11:03.12 | Shiibot | We will be performing an urgent maintenance on all realms beginning at 4:00 AM PST. We anticipate no more than three hours of downtime. This maintenance is designed to correct a very recent issue where players were able to obtain certain PvP items without paying the intended price. |
| 11:03.12 | Shiibot | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:03.51 | zenzio | tsk, people still think they can get away with their free items when things bug like that? |
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| 11:04.49 | Fisker- | Where's the bans? |
| 11:06.57 | Fisker- | no u |
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| 11:48.29 | Cidan | annndd |
| 11:48.34 | Cidan | Here comes the shutdowns |
| 11:50.45 | tlund | Cidan: what time is it in your TZ? |
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| 11:53.53 | Lothaer | evening |
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| 12:00.00 | Cidan | 7 |
| 12:00.02 | Cidan | EST |
| 12:00.05 | Cidan | 0700 |
| 12:00.14 | ajmitch | and we just got up to mother in BT, what a shame |
| 12:00.27 | Cidan | well, they had to pull the loot |
| 12:00.54 | Nom- | meh they can backtrack all the purchases anyway |
| 12:01.00 | Nom- | I wouldn't have considered it a high priority |
| 12:01.04 | ajmitch | there'll be a few disappointed people about that |
| 12:01.45 | Corrodias | it's probably a lot of work to track down bad purchases |
| 12:02.00 | Corrodias | and follow the chains of disenchants, trades, enchantments, etc |
| 12:02.46 | Cidan | not just that |
| 12:02.50 | pompy | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:02.51 | Cidan | people raiding with the loot |
| 12:02.54 | Corrodias | that would make it a high priority, especially since the longer the cleanup process takes, the more complex it gets, moreso as the time before you even START cleaning up gets longer |
| 12:03.12 | Corrodias | and Cidan is right, too |
| 12:04.20 | Corrodias | i sleep now. 'ni |
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| 12:26.41 | Kalroth | kd3 sux! |
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| 12:34.46 | cbreak | just because he's made of rubber? |
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| 12:38.57 | Kalroth | He's too bouncy! |
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| 12:41.22 | sacarasc | if you freeze him, he won't bounce anymore |
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| 13:10.15 | Lothaer | evening |
| 13:10.24 | Cidan | NO |
| 13:10.26 | Cidan | IT IS MORNING |
| 13:10.41 | zenzio | it's afternoon |
| 13:10.44 | cbreak | good afternoon Lothaer. |
| 13:10.53 | Lothaer | its 11:40pm |
| 13:10.58 | Lothaer | :P |
| 13:11.16 | Lothaer | so whats new? |
| 13:11.19 | Cidan | nothing |
| 13:11.22 | Cidan | servers are down again |
| 13:11.30 | Lothaer | i know S2 fix |
| 13:11.34 | Cidan | yup |
| 13:12.00 | Lothaer | and i got my full S2 set and put some epic gems and the SSG pvp helm chant :D |
| 13:12.02 | Lothaer | owell |
| 13:12.17 | Cidan | why would you waste your gems like that? |
| 13:12.28 | Lothaer | meh |
| 13:12.34 | cbreak | I bought a few epic gems from arena points |
| 13:12.38 | cbreak | and a few more from pvp |
| 13:12.42 | Lothaer | they were heroic gems |
| 13:13.01 | Lothaer | so im out some time and 80g big deal :D |
| 13:13.39 | Lothaer | im thinking about adding something to my mod but no idea how :D |
| 13:13.51 | Cidan | what mod? |
| 13:13.56 | Lothaer | ComeHere |
| 13:14.11 | Lothaer | i wanna add something to it and get a update before the release tonight |
| 13:14.22 | Cidan | What do you want to add? |
| 13:14.57 | Lothaer | i want to make it say something over yell |
| 13:15.03 | Cidan | then do it? |
| 13:15.40 | cbreak | SendChatMessage("Anyone out there?", "YELL") |
| 13:15.43 | Lothaer | what ComeHere does is when a DK uses Death Grip you will here scorpions "Come Here" or "Get Over Here" or "Come to Daddy... Come Here" audio clips from Mortal Kombat |
| 13:16.24 | Lothaer | so say u use the abilit and you here "Come Here" then over yell channel you'll yell COME HERE!!! |
| 13:16.34 | Cidan | http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API |
| 13:16.38 | Lothaer | nd if its "Get Over Here" then youll yell Get Over Here!!! |
| 13:16.45 | Cidan | If you need to look up a function, look it up there. |
| 13:16.50 | cbreak | oh, btw |
| 13:17.10 | cbreak | people like you are the reason I banned yell to my "Read once in a blue moon" tab :) |
| 13:17.23 | Lothaer | i had help from 4 capable authors on this somewhat trivial mod |
| 13:17.42 | Lothaer | lol |
| 13:19.14 | cbreak | tip: add a timeout or something. Or use /say instead of /yell |
| 13:19.20 | cbreak | to limit the range somewhat |
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| 13:20.16 | AbsoRayne | I did NOT want to be up this early. |
| 13:20.23 | Lothaer | local RanNum = math.random(3); |
| 13:20.23 | Lothaer | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:20.23 | Lothaer | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:20.23 | Lothaer | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:20.24 | Lothaer | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:20.24 | Lothaer | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:20.26 | Lothaer | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:20.28 | Lothaer | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:20.30 | Lothaer | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:20.32 | Lothaer | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:20.33 | zenzio | FAIL |
| 13:20.34 | Lothaer | end |
| 13:20.36 | Lothaer | end |
| 13:20.38 | Lothaer | end |
| 13:20.39 | Cidan | Do |
| 13:20.40 | Lothaer | end |
| 13:20.40 | Cidan | Not |
| 13:20.41 | Cidan | do |
| 13:20.42 | Cidan | that |
| 13:20.42 | Lothaer | would that work? |
| 13:20.42 | cbreak | try pastebin next time |
| 13:20.44 | Lothaer | thought so lol |
| 13:20.44 | Cidan | ever again |
| 13:20.48 | Lothaer | sorry |
| 13:20.50 | Cidan | Do not ever paste code in here. |
| 13:20.51 | cbreak | or someone will kick you |
| 13:20.58 | Lothaer | didnt know sorry :D |
| 13:21.02 | Cidan | cbreak is right, you will get kicked. |
| 13:21.09 | Cidan | Do you see the link on the topic? |
| 13:21.10 | zenzio | that's why there's a pastey link in the channel topic Lothaer |
| 13:21.21 | Cidan | Use that, paste it there, give us the result URL |
| 13:21.54 | cbreak | first, proper indenting please |
| 13:22.12 | cbreak | and you have too many ends for the code you pasted. |
| 13:22.19 | Cidan | lol |
| 13:22.23 | Cidan | let's wait for the entire thing |
| 13:22.32 | cbreak | it's bad looking code |
| 13:22.49 | Cidan | well let's wait for the pasty |
| 13:23.37 | Lothaer | http://www.pastey.net/101685-3llo |
| 13:23.50 | Lothaer | sorry bout that again :D |
| 13:24.12 | Cidan | yep, one too many end's there |
| 13:24.18 | Cidan | no nm |
| 13:25.37 | Cidan | Okay, so, that seems right. |
| 13:25.40 | Cidan | Granted |
| 13:25.46 | Cidan | people will hate you. |
| 13:25.48 | Cidan | lol |
| 13:25.53 | Lothaer | kk |
| 13:26.04 | Cidan | hm |
| 13:26.14 | Cidan | So I'm almost done with this e-book reader for the Android |
| 13:26.20 | Lothaer | ill have yo wait about 90mins for the servers to come back to test it though |
| 13:26.21 | Cidan | but I want to make an IRC client for it now |
| 13:26.31 | leethal | Cidan: almost done ftl |
| 13:26.39 | Cidan | leethal: D= |
| 13:26.52 | Cidan | leethal: When it's done, it will rock. |
| 13:27.02 | Lothaer | how hard world it be to make a option to disable to chat messages? |
| 13:27.23 | Cidan | eh, not too hard. |
| 13:27.32 | cbreak | apart from the bad indenting this should be ok |
| 13:27.35 | cbreak | but add a timer |
| 13:27.35 | Cidan | But what you should do is look up tutorials on wowwiki.com |
| 13:27.37 | cbreak | or use SAY |
| 13:28.10 | Lothaer | yeah i might use say instead |
| 13:30.22 | AbsoRayne | Are the WoW Forums still locked? |
| 13:30.34 | Cidan | mayybeee |
| 13:30.57 | Cidan | They are schrodinger's forums, after all. |
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| 13:48.43 | zenzio | afternoon, peppy |
| 13:49.21 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, zenzio. |
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| 13:50.33 | Tsurphr | mornin |
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| 13:52.36 | Tsurphr | anyone know a source for some decent pngs of wow graphics? |
| 13:53.14 | AbsoRayne | I have, in my hands |
| 13:53.19 | AbsoRayne | a french toast bagel. |
| 13:53.23 | AbsoRayne | And it is AMAZING. |
| 13:54.23 | Lopeppeppy | I have strawberries and whipped cream and chocolate milk. |
| 13:55.30 | AbsoRayne | Sex for breakfast? O_o |
| 13:56.13 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, don't I wish! |
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| 13:57.34 | Lothaer | Tsurphr, what you working on? |
| 13:59.09 | Tsurphr | logos for guild web site |
| 14:00.19 | Lothaer | go here |
| 14:00.20 | Lothaer | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6127-BLP2PNG.html |
| 14:00.23 | |pez| | Blizzard should really put some limit options into the downloader for p2p downloads. |
| 14:00.26 | alestane | Now if that were actually nourishing, I don't think ANYONE would ever get out of bed. |
| 14:00.27 | Lothaer | use this to convert jpg to png |
| 14:00.28 | |pez| | so I don't have to disable it completely. |
| 14:00.43 | zenzio | |pez|: yes, but until they do there is a simple solution, use a normal bittorrent client |
| 14:00.58 | |pez| | ... XD ! |
| 14:01.18 | Tsurphr | ah nice tool |
| 14:01.33 | Lothaer | :P |
| 14:01.45 | Lothaer | ive been using it to "make" some graphics for LunarSphere |
| 14:02.09 | Tsurphr | don't know what BLP's are tho.. I'm guessing alpha-blended graphics used in the interface? |
| 14:02.12 | Lothaer | it also converts .blp to .png and vice versa :D |
| 14:02.21 | |pez| | Aaand, I get a 503 when trying to update my account. |
| 14:02.22 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, strawberries are nourishing. |
| 14:02.28 | Lothaer | ~.blp |
| 14:02.29 | |pez| | can I update my account to WotLK yet? |
| 14:02.44 | Lopeppeppy | Do you have the game in hand, |pez| ? |
| 14:02.56 | opant2 | dont you need a cd-key for that? |
| 14:03.03 | |pez| | Lopeppeppy: I do, actually. |
| 14:03.09 | |pez| | got it in my mail today. |
| 14:03.12 | Tsurphr | you have to link a valid WoTLK serial key to your account, which is only obtainable from a box set atm |
| 14:03.21 | Lopeppeppy | Then go ahead and try, but I doubt that you'll be able to, until the actual date Bliz set. |
| 14:04.24 | opant2 | with the recent 'problems' they are having....I would be hesitant to enter it before 12AM EST |
| 14:04.24 | Tsurphr | but even if you have a box set in hand, you still can't upgrade yet |
| 14:04.36 | opant2 | tsur: sure you can |
| 14:04.44 | |pez| | Aww, poop then. I was hoping to just be able to log in at 0:01 and start pplaying XD |
| 14:05.20 | |pez| | Can upgrade WoW, but need to wait with the account upgrade I guess. |
| 14:05.33 | Lothaer | http://www.worldofwar.net/blog/eu-account-upgrade-available/ |
| 14:05.40 | Lothaer | thats for EU not US though |
| 14:05.44 | Tsurphr | they don't want everyone doing that tho, it causes server flooding |
| 14:05.57 | AbsoRayne | om nom nom |
| 14:06.02 | Tsurphr | one of the reasons they don't offer a download installer |
| 14:07.03 | |pez| | Understandable. |
| 14:07.08 | cbreak | evil... |
| 14:07.11 | Lothaer | with any luck ill have my CE WotLK in about 10hrs |
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| 14:07.27 | Tsurphr | Lothaer: where can I find the BLP files .. are they packed inside MPQ's ? |
| 14:07.32 | Lothaer | yes |
| 14:07.32 | |pez| | I got a CE WotLK for the boyfriend, it appeared in the mail today too. |
| 14:07.42 | Tsurphr | got a link to a good MPQ explorer? |
| 14:07.42 | Lothaer | winmpq |
| 14:07.46 | Lothaer | google it |
| 14:07.49 | alestane | You can extract the BLPs with the AddOn Kit |
| 14:07.49 | Tsurphr | kk |
| 14:07.56 | Lothaer | yeah or get the addin toolkit |
| 14:08.02 | Lothaer | adon* |
| 14:08.23 | |pez| | AddOn Kit sort of broke some of the BLPs though. Last time I tried it. |
| 14:08.45 | AbsoRayne | I want to meet whoever thought of the french toast bagel |
| 14:08.48 | AbsoRayne | and shake his hand |
| 14:08.55 | AbsoRayne | or hers |
| 14:09.00 | Lothaer | itll be a dude |
| 14:09.43 | Lopeppeppy | Women only cook with pancakes |
| 14:10.21 | Lothaer | lol |
| 14:11.00 | Tsurphr | I made a sausage/egg/cheese sandwich this morning using eggo waffles as the bread |
| 14:11.04 | Tsurphr | it was exquisite |
| 14:11.19 | Tsurphr | we ran out of eng muffins |
| 14:12.04 | Lothaer | Tsurphr: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ |
| 14:14.34 | |pez| | I want my own internet connection, so I can use the entire connection into the appartment. :P |
| 14:16.09 | leethal | is there a list of procs somewhere? |
| 14:17.10 | leethal | can't seem to find a filter for that on wowheads spell list |
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| 14:19.45 | AbsoRayne | Hmmm |
| 14:19.50 | AbsoRayne | I wanna play Max Payne 2 |
| 14:20.03 | zenzio | oh man |
| 14:20.06 | Lopeppeppy | I want a pwny |
| 14:20.07 | zenzio | Rayne has finally lost his mind |
| 14:20.14 | leethal | after Far Cry 2 I don't wanna play anything other than Far Cry 2 =/ |
| 14:20.33 | Lothaer | RA3 |
| 14:20.51 | AbsoRayne | I find Farcry 2s ending to be rather disapointing. :/ |
| 14:21.01 | Tsurphr | gah |
| 14:21.04 | Lothaer | what about when SC2 or D3 is released? |
| 14:21.10 | Tsurphr | blp2png doesnt support wildcards :O |
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| 14:21.24 | Shiibot | New WoW-US Server Alert: November 12, 2008, 3:00AM PST | |
| 14:21.24 | Shiibot | We will be performing an urgent maintenance on all realms beginning at 4:00 AM PST. We anticipate no more than three hours of downtime. This maintenance is designed to correct a very recent issue where players were able to obtain certain PvP items without paying the intended price. |
| 14:21.24 | Shiibot | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:21.42 | Tsurphr | I'll have to work some autohotkey magic with that one |
| 14:21.55 | Lothaer | what you mean wildcards? |
| 14:22.07 | Tsurphr | like *.blp |
| 14:22.17 | Lothaer | ahh kk |
| 14:22.34 | Tsurphr | there some other way to batch convert them? |
| 14:23.30 | Lopeppeppy | Thank you, Shiibot. |
| 14:23.51 | Tsurphr | I'll just write an ahk batch tool |
| 14:23.51 | Lothaer | there was a blp-tga converter but i dont know if it works |
| 14:23.54 | AbsoRayne | So ensues the question... |
| 14:24.01 | AbsoRayne | 'What the hell did they break this time?' |
| 14:24.06 | AbsoRayne | Minus the mail. |
| 14:24.16 | Lopeppeppy | Server hamsters at the wiring again. Nom nom nom. |
| 14:24.20 | Lothaer | Priest and Warlock S2 gear was free |
| 14:24.33 | Lothaer | as well as some PvP necks and rings |
| 14:25.06 | Lothaer | heaps of people bought them (including me) so imho they are rolling the servers back to removed them from people that didnt earn them |
| 14:26.39 | AbsoRayne | I know about that <_< |
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| 14:27.07 | Lothaer | servers should be up in 34mins |
| 14:29.00 | leethal | is elseif-ing on eventType in a COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED the most sensible thing to do? |
| 14:29.06 | leethal | cause lua doesn't have switch statements, right? |
| 14:29.45 | krka | you can use a table that maps eventType to a function |
| 14:30.03 | leethal | what's most efficient? |
| 14:30.09 | leethal | I don't wanna spend to much time in there =) |
| 14:30.27 | krka | time it |
| 14:30.38 | leethal | aight |
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| 14:32.10 | Lopeppeppy | Heyo, Shirik. |
| 14:32.16 | Shirik | hi |
| 14:32.25 | Shirik | I see shiibot worked while I was gone :) |
| 14:33.10 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, he was very good. |
| 14:34.20 | Shirik | The EU people are feeling left out though :( |
| 14:34.47 | Lopeppeppy | Because Shiibot only knows what goes on in his own country? |
| 14:34.50 | AbsoRayne | O_o |
| 14:35.27 | zenzio | Lopeppeppy: wouldn't worry about that, that's more than most Americans do |
| 14:35.41 | Shirik | soon he'll work for EU |
| 14:35.52 | Shirik | I just need a clean way to do it |
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| 14:41.18 | Fisker- | i hate you |
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| 14:42.25 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Beladona and |Jelly|. |
| 14:43.19 | |Jelly| | ~hug Peppy |
| 14:43.19 | purl | ACTION hugs Peppy |
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| 14:48.15 | |Jelly| | So it seems the servers are /still/ down. Any idea what the hell is going on? :( |
| 14:48.22 | Beladona | morning |
| 14:48.45 | alestane | They're supposed to be back in ten or fifteen minutes. |
| 14:49.34 | |Jelly| | What happened? |
| 14:50.37 | Shirik | free gears |
| 14:51.29 | batrick | hello friends |
| 14:51.51 | |Jelly| | ...and the to add insult to injury, Windoz decided to restart last night closing Firefox and with it, the list of macros Lunessa gave me for my shaman friend as well as the video.google.com site that had all of 1984 downloaded and ready to play. :( |
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| 14:52.13 | Shirik | :( |
| 14:52.35 | leethal | they should hire a guy to be in the server rooms and constantly bug the server admins so that he could post updates to a RSS feed. "What's happening now? How about now? And now? Now? OK, and now?" |
| 14:52.47 | |Jelly| | rofl |
| 14:53.16 | |Jelly| | "Hey guys, what the hell? Get out of those akkuntz! STOP SHARDING PURPELZ!" |
| 14:53.33 | Diskmaster | "aaaaaagh" |
| 14:53.37 | batrick | so what happened with the cheap arena/honor epics? |
| 14:53.43 | batrick | I wasn't on to see |
| 14:54.10 | weziman | batrick, they apparently are removing all of them that were purchased and 'purchased', and refunding points spent if any |
| 14:54.30 | batrick | well I saw that, but how were they cheap or easy to get |
| 14:54.30 | weziman | no idea if they are refunding gems and enchants that were on the items |
| 14:54.34 | weziman | idk |
| 14:55.46 | |Jelly| | IMO if you purchased them, knowing something to be wrong, you deserve what you get in losing the gems/chants. |
| 14:56.40 | opant2 | "Due to our stupid mistake of letting this happen and the realm troubles that occurred yesterday...we are letting everyone keep the S2 gear that they bought for free!" |
| 14:56.51 | Shirik | yeah no |
| 14:57.22 | |Jelly| | I can just see the QQ now. |
| 14:59.44 | |Jelly| | weak |
| 15:00.05 | AbsoRayne | ~slap Jelly |
| 15:00.06 | purl | ACTION slaps Jelly, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 15:00.33 | |Jelly| | errm. I don't recall putting my fingers ... on ... anything |
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| 15:04.18 | AbsoRayne | Of course you wouldnt |
| 15:04.20 | AbsoRayne | you drunkard! |
| 15:05.10 | |Jelly| | shh |
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| 15:10.10 | |Jelly| | WTB servers |
| 15:10.28 | erikd | blizz needs to put the download install back online so i don't have to get this torrent |
| 15:10.47 | Tsurphr | http://www.autohotkey.net/paste/6i7z2f |
| 15:12.34 | mikma | servers, who needs them! |
| 15:14.31 | opant2 | WTB servers, but better than the ones we have. |
| 15:15.11 | Fisker- | JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY |
| 15:18.30 | leethal | then, suddenly, out of the blue, he asked: anyone here living in Oslo, Norway? |
| 15:18.31 | Shiibot | New WoW-US Server Alert: November 12, 2008, 7:15AM PST | | We ran into some database issues during the maintenance which will require additional downtime. We have no current ETA to provide at this time, however, we will provide an update within the hour. |
| 15:18.31 | Shiibot | November 12, 2008, 3:00AM PST | |
| 15:18.31 | Shiibot | We will be performing an urgent maintenance on all realms beginning at 4:00 AM PST. We anticipate no more than three hours of downtime. This maintenance is designed to correct a very recent issue where players were able to obtain certain PvP items without paying the intended price. |
| 15:19.09 | Fisker- | leethal no but i live close enough to despise them :3 |
| 15:19.20 | mikma | rofl more downtime |
| 15:19.50 | |pez| | Wah! :D http://bildr.no/view/285912 |
| 15:19.59 | Fisker- | oooooooowld |
| 15:20.11 | |pez| | Never seen it, but damned funny! |
| 15:21.14 | AbsoRayne | I expected the day of / day after the expansion to be unplayable, not the two days before it. :/ |
| 15:22.04 | leethal | Fisker-: I wonder where I should line up for the queue with the most dressed up people in it >< |
| 15:22.12 | leethal | there's like 5 midnight openings in Oslo |
| 15:22.15 | |pez| | wait, servers are down? |
| 15:22.23 | |pez| | Nuuuh, I didn't get to 70 ;__; |
| 15:22.33 | |pez| | leethal: I just ordered mine online from Elkjøp |
| 15:22.55 | leethal | I pre-ordered, but release queues ftw! |
| 15:23.15 | AbsoRayne | Im going to pick mine up tonight at Gamestop :P |
| 15:23.30 | |pez| | Eh, I'm pefectly fine not having to go to EB Games or somesuch late at night. |
| 15:24.05 | AbsoRayne | I need to go up there shortly, actually, and get another copy of my receipt :| |
| 15:24.15 | AbsoRayne | Mine took a ride through the wash |
| 15:24.43 | |pez| | haah |
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| 15:25.09 | |pez| | I hope they don't expect me to show the pre-order thing I have for SC2 when it gets released. |
| 15:25.18 | |pez| | I pre-ordered that like.. over a year ago. |
| 15:25.35 | p3lim | Bleh nothing in the mail yet :/ |
| 15:25.43 | zenzelezz | you think that's bad? I pre-ordered TF2 in October 2000 |
| 15:25.53 | |pez| | TF2? :D |
| 15:26.06 | Lothaer | damn servers still down grrrr |
| 15:26.10 | leethal | I preordered Duke Nukem 9 years ago |
| 15:27.29 | Lothaer | they ran into some database errrors GG blizz |
| 15:30.23 | |Jelly| | alestane: /tap |
| 15:30.52 | alestane | Well, that's one way to get my attention. |
| 15:31.35 | |Jelly| | [08:48]<alestane>They're supposed to be back in ten or fifteen minutes. <-- You're the all knowing, all seeing green of the world ... aren't you? |
| 15:31.53 | alestane | That was just based on the announcement. |
| 15:33.13 | alestane | They had said three hours starting at 0400PST, that was about to end. |
| 15:34.40 | Lothaer | its currently 0730 PST??? |
| 15:34.50 | alestane | Yes, yes it is. |
| 15:34.55 | alestane | Or thereabouts. |
| 15:35.09 | Lothaer | kk <--- Aussie |
| 15:35.20 | Fisker- | hey cladhaire |
| 15:35.22 | Lothaer | atm its 0200 |
| 15:35.23 | Fisker- | having fun on veklinash? |
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| 15:36.51 | Shirik|zZz | ooh |
| 15:36.54 | Shirik|zZz | package came today :D |
| 15:37.40 | Lothaer | bomb? |
| 15:37.53 | Lothaer | make sure its not ticking |
| 15:38.02 | Lothaer | if it is the return to sender :D |
| 15:38.06 | Shirik|zZz | heh no, it's from Crayola |
| 15:38.10 | opant2 | if it is, its probably blizz's server |
| 15:38.11 | Shirik|zZz | they finished one of the products I worked on with them |
| 15:38.18 | Shirik|zZz | so they sent it to me |
| 15:38.23 | opant2 | and it will self destruct |
| 15:38.30 | Lothaer | what product? |
| 15:38.39 | Lothaer | come on spill the beans |
| 15:38.46 | Fisker- | my core is bigger than yours |
| 15:38.56 | Shirik|zZz | it's basically a pen that draws with light |
| 15:39.01 | Lothaer | nice |
| 15:39.08 | Shirik|zZz | I designed the safety circuit in it so kids don't blind themselves with the UV light in it |
| 15:39.11 | Lothaer | how much you get for the idea? |
| 15:39.20 | Shirik|zZz | I didn't give them the idea |
| 15:39.24 | Beladona | I think they want to increase anticipation by giving everyone withdrawal symptoms prior to wotlk tomorrow |
| 15:39.25 | Lothaer | lol |
| 15:39.27 | Shirik|zZz | I was an intern at crayola when they were working on it 2 years ago |
| 15:39.33 | Beladona | amirite? |
| 15:39.38 | Lothaer | nice |
| 15:39.39 | Lothaer | hey bela |
| 15:39.46 | Beladona | hi |
| 15:39.56 | Lothaer | how goes LH? |
| 15:39.59 | |pez| | ... in which zone is Dalaran? 0.o |
| 15:40.03 | Beladona | LH? |
| 15:40.04 | Shirik|zZz | heh, they still have the laser warning on it though |
| 15:40.08 | Lothaer | Crystalsong Forest |
| 15:40.34 | |pez| | Lothaer: Ooh, right, thaanks. |
| 15:40.50 | Lothaer | u need to take a portal to get in to Dalaran but to use it you have to complete a quest that start in Dalaran and u need to be 75 if memory servers me right |
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| 15:41.00 | Beladona | no not 75 |
| 15:41.08 | Beladona | but the quest starts like 71 or 72 |
| 15:41.16 | Lothaer | yeah in Dalaran though |
| 15:41.20 | Lothaer | afaik |
| 15:41.34 | Beladona | not last I checked |
| 15:41.47 | Beladona | I can't remember where, but the quest told me to use the crystal on the ground |
| 15:41.49 | Beladona | it ports you up |
| 15:41.54 | Beladona | then you ahve to use the crystal to get back down |
| 15:41.57 | Lothaer | last time i played in the beta you could only pick up the quest inside dalaran |
| 15:41.59 | Beladona | to complete teh quest |
| 15:42.11 | Beladona | there WERE bugs with it though |
| 15:42.16 | Beladona | so that might be why |
| 15:42.17 | Lothaer | yeah i go tit inside dalara you have to use it both ways |
| 15:42.21 | Lothaer | port down and up |
| 15:42.42 | Lothaer | it was stupid lol |
| 15:42.50 | Beladona | they better not require you to be able to fly in Northrend before you can get there |
| 15:42.51 | opant2 | people getting dressed up for a release disturb me |
| 15:42.51 | Beladona | thats dumb |
| 15:43.02 | Beladona | I am dressing up as Sacrolash |
| 15:43.10 | |pez| | opant2: aww, it's cute |
| 15:43.12 | Beladona | bear in mind I am a male |
| 15:43.13 | Lopeppeppy | I'm dressing up as a dark iron dwarf. |
| 15:43.26 | Beladona | and she has almost no clothes |
| 15:43.42 | Lothaer | lol |
| 15:44.52 | opant2 | I always assume that the dressed up people are strange. |
| 15:44.57 | Shirik|zZz | now I need to make him work for the EU servers |
| 15:45.03 | Shirik|zZz | anyone know the EU serveralert URL? |
| 15:45.14 | Lothaer | im gonna be dressing up for the final HP movies |
| 15:45.15 | |Jelly| | Shirik! You're not zZz!!! |
| 15:46.12 | Shirik | any vim pros here? How can I tabulate a block of text? I can select it all with Shift+V, but then what? |
| 15:47.21 | Aesir | Shirik: You need the Rockwell Automation Retro-Encabulator plug-in. |
| 15:47.36 | Aesir | oh, tabulator... sorry. I misunderstood. |
| 15:48.26 | ANTRat | reciprocating dingle arms |
| 15:48.50 | Aesir | they help reduce side-fumbling. |
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| 15:49.27 | AbsoRayne | Easily one of the worst feelings in the world: Getting Prell Shampoo in your eyes. |
| 15:52.35 | Beladona | wait |
| 15:52.42 | Beladona | so you can get the game at midnight tonight |
| 15:52.53 | Beladona | but they aren't actually enabling Northrend until 9pm tomorrow? |
| 15:52.59 | Lopeppeppy | AbsoRayne, how about getting your eyes into the Prell bottle? |
| 15:53.03 | Beladona | oh wait this post was yesterday |
| 15:53.04 | Beladona | my bad |
| 15:53.08 | Beladona | so 9pm tonight |
| 15:53.10 | Aesir | I read that as 9pm PST tonight |
| 15:53.24 | Beladona | I wish gamestop would ship my copy already |
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| 15:53.41 | Beladona | morons are waiting, even though they got the go ahead to ship early |
| 15:53.55 | AbsoRayne | Lopeppeppy: Youre silly |
| 15:55.52 | Lopeppeppy | AbsoRayne, that I am. |
| 15:56.15 | Beladona | good thing I play on an EST server |
| 15:56.33 | Beladona | 9pm PST means it will be enabled at midnight my time |
| 15:56.42 | Beladona | which is when I should be getting a copy |
| 15:57.17 | Aesir | My best buy closes 10pm EST. I won't be in until tomorrow night. That's ok though, because by then the realms might be up/stable. I hope. |
| 15:57.36 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe. |
| 15:58.33 | Shirik | ~serveralert |
| 15:58.39 | Shirik | hm |
| 15:58.46 | Shirik | ~wowalert |
| 15:58.47 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US), http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) |
| 15:59.12 | pompy | database issues lol |
| 15:59.14 | pompy | ugh |
| 15:59.21 | Shirik | !reload |
| 15:59.50 | Aesir | Shirik: Please stop reloading the realms. It's screwing everyone up. |
| 16:00.10 | Shirik | For some reason the error didn't even get logged |
| 16:00.12 | Shirik | that's really bad |
| 16:00.19 | Shirik | Reloading components per request... |
| 16:00.22 | Shirik | <end of log> |
| 16:00.34 | erikd | what's shiibot written in? |
| 16:00.37 | erikd | lua? |
| 16:01.13 | Shirik | yes |
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| 16:01.22 | Beladona | GRRR, gamestop says it shipped, and even has a tracking number, but UPS can't find that shipment |
| 16:01.34 | Beladona | which must mean they haven't picked it up yet |
| 16:01.45 | Shirik | Beladona: It's on an armored truck |
| 16:01.56 | Beladona | lol |
| 16:02.13 | Beladona | I guess my plans of going to walmart at midnight are still going to have to do =( |
| 16:02.32 | Shirik | psh |
| 16:02.43 | Shirik | Amazon says it's being shipped and is on time for the 13th |
| 16:02.47 | Shirik | Good enough for me |
| 16:03.08 | Beladona | starting at 4pm I am home for the weekend |
| 16:03.16 | Beladona | I wanna play right at midnight |
| 16:03.26 | erikd | 5pm for me |
| 16:03.30 | erikd | until monday! |
| 16:03.36 | erikd | err, through monday |
| 16:04.10 | Shirik | ok, in theory shiibot is now monitoring both EU and US server alerts |
| 16:05.08 | Seerah | ours is supposedly coming tomorrow from Amazon, too, but UPS doesn't usually get to our apartment until around 5: or 6:.... :( |
| 16:05.18 | Shirik | :( |
| 16:05.23 | Shirik | UPS usually gets to my apartment really early |
| 16:05.36 | Shirik | we live next to a DC |
| 16:05.46 | Shirik | I have class all day tomorrow anyway |
| 16:05.49 | Seerah | but I'll be working most of the day/evening anyway, and hubby didn't take off until Friday |
| 16:06.23 | Lopeppeppy | UPS usually hits my apartment sometime while I'm at work, so my baby CE better not get stolen or I'll kick their arses. |
| 16:07.00 | Shirik | same |
| 16:07.28 | Seerah | what would suck would be if they took it back to the dist. center and you had to wait until the truck got back from its route to get it |
| 16:08.12 | Shirik | happened before |
| 16:08.13 | Shirik | it does suck |
| 16:08.23 | Seerah | hahaha - GameStop newsletter is telling me to reserve a copy of wotlk online or go to a midnight release :P |
| 16:08.37 | Seerah | they're all going to be sold out |
| 16:09.46 | Beladona | woot |
| 16:09.56 | Beladona | just called my local walmart. they will be open at midnight |
| 16:10.18 | Shirik | Just called my school |
| 16:10.22 | Shirik | they will be open at midnight for me |
| 16:10.25 | Shirik | and will expect me to be there |
| 16:10.38 | Beladona | suck to be you |
| 16:10.52 | nevcairiel | I wouldnt go to my school at midnight, no matter what |
| 16:11.08 | Beladona | I would if I had no itnernet |
| 16:11.14 | Beladona | but otherwise no |
| 16:11.57 | Shirik | I've been there while security was opening up the building |
| 16:12.06 | Shirik | they used to get confused when they saw me inside, ask for my card, etc. |
| 16:12.09 | Shirik | Now they just wave at me |
| 16:12.31 | Lopeppeppy | I've made security open the buildings for me. *grin* Being a ghost student is wicked fun. |
| 16:12.39 | Lopeppeppy | Never wait for a computer in a lab again. |
| 16:12.42 | Shirik | Oh see I have my own keys |
| 16:13.06 | Shirik | and most of our buildings are locked electronically |
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| 16:13.15 | Shirik | so I just have to swipe my card to get in |
| 16:13.51 | Lopeppeppy | Electronic locks weren't really around while I was in college. |
| 16:15.29 | Shirik | I couldn't live without them |
| 16:15.30 | Seerah | we had them for dorms |
| 16:15.33 | nevcairiel | I just go there while its open, and i think from 8 to 20 is long enough already |
| 16:15.35 | Shirik | that and vending machines that I can use my card for |
| 16:15.53 | Lopeppeppy | I guess I went to a very rural school, dorms still aren't even locked. |
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| 16:21.47 | AbsoRayne | Running up to Gamestop, bbs |
| 16:21.53 | Industrial | =) |
| 16:22.17 | Industrial | 6 HOURS AND 38 MINUTES |
| 16:22.36 | cladhaire | I won't get my box until tomorrow |
| 16:22.37 | Industrial | madness |
| 16:22.41 | cladhaire | and I won't be doing anythign with it anyway |
| 16:22.55 | Industrial | im getting it at 00:00 and im going to play til 00:00 :P |
| 16:22.59 | cladhaire | hopefully we don't have 15,000 horde death knights tho |
| 16:23.09 | cladhaire | perhaps we should avoid EP entirely, as a matter of fact |
| 16:23.24 | Industrial | eh, you can level as 70 and the DK's are all 55 |
| 16:23.30 | Industrial | you are 80 way faster? |
| 16:23.33 | Beladona | I plan to make a DK, but I am leaving EP as soon as I leave the instanced area |
| 16:23.37 | Industrial | ah k |
| 16:23.50 | Industrial | Beladona: to outland? |
| 16:23.55 | Beladona | no |
| 16:24.00 | Beladona | well if I am 58 sure |
| 16:24.10 | Beladona | but most likely there will be a level in between |
| 16:24.26 | Industrial | I guess you can do it with a group of dk's, kill level 59 mobs in outland to grind or something |
| 16:24.40 | Beladona | or have guildies join you |
| 16:25.02 | mikma | geforce en8600gt = geforce 8 ? |
| 16:25.14 | Beladona | en? |
| 16:25.22 | Beladona | never seen that prefix before |
| 16:25.34 | mikma | fanless |
| 16:25.39 | nevcairiel | its probably retailer specific |
| 16:25.45 | Industrial | I'm going on a rampage trying to do the full first area in 1 day on northrend and then sleep and do other stuff (unfortunately) |
| 16:25.56 | nevcairiel | but its probably just a default 8600gt chipset =P |
| 16:25.56 | mikma | asus en8600gt but the core is geforce |
| 16:25.58 | nevcairiel | so yes, a 8 |
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| 16:26.16 | Beladona | I have two accounts, but will likely only have 1 key at midnight |
| 16:26.21 | Beladona | otherwise I would dual box level |
| 16:26.35 | Industrial | ive got a 8800gts from club3d, the card has its own casing. its mad large and the fan is like a vacuum cleaner >_> |
| 16:27.31 | Beladona | anyone know if its still possible to log into curse with openid? |
| 16:27.38 | nevcairiel | i dont think so |
| 16:27.43 | Beladona | I had created an account a while ago using openid, and now I can't get in |
| 16:28.12 | nevcairiel | i think they scrapped openid support, for whatever reason |
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| 16:34.02 | Lothaer | jeez this sucks |
| 16:34.18 | Lothaer | no there is only like 5 servers the rest are down |
| 16:34.20 | Lothaer | GG blizz |
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| 16:35.19 | Lothaer | wow more realm and some are online too :D |
| 16:35.32 | alcaras_ | 7:15 AM PST (more than an hour ago): "We ran into some database issues during the maintenance which will require additional downtime. We have no current ETA to provide at this time, however, we will provide an update within the hour." |
| 16:35.38 | Shirik|zZz | alcaras |
| 16:35.45 | Shirik|zZz | Is that really necessary? |
| 16:35.49 | Shirik|zZz | To spam that across multiple channels? |
| 16:36.08 | mikma | ummmm |
| 16:36.12 | Shirik|zZz | Blizzard is doing the best they can, I'm sure. Let's think about this for just a second |
| 16:36.14 | Lothaer | servers are comming up |
| 16:36.20 | mikma | how much is the collectors edition package? |
| 16:36.22 | Shirik|zZz | (A) They can spend time working on the servers |
| 16:36.24 | alcaras_ | Shirik|zZz: no, not necessary :p |
| 16:36.28 | Shirik|zZz | (B) They can waste time putting up notices |
| 16:36.31 | Shirik|zZz | Which would you prefer? |
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| 16:36.58 | Shirik|zZz | If they have no new information, is it really necessary to say "We have no new information" or maybe they're right on the verge of getting it working |
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| 16:37.28 | Shirik|zZz | mikma: 70 USD iirc? |
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| 16:37.59 | alcaras_ | You're right Shirik. I'm just frustrated at not being able to log in for so long :-( |
| 16:38.23 | Shirik|zZz | so is everyone, and so is Blizzard |
| 16:38.26 | mikma | god damn, no way in hell i am gonna pay that much |
| 16:38.32 | Shirik|zZz | my advise: go out in the sun some |
| 16:38.32 | Osagasu | Well, they said they'd provide an update in the hour |
| 16:38.43 | Shirik|zZz | my watch has ran out of charge which indicates that I haven't been outside enough |
| 16:38.57 | alcaras_ | Shirik|zZz: I went to sleep, servers down, woke up, servers down... :p |
| 16:39.22 | p3lim | will variables be loaded at ADDON_LOADED ? |
| 16:39.28 | Shirik|zZz | no |
| 16:39.32 | Shirik|zZz | they'll be loaded at VARIABLES_LOADED |
| 16:39.50 | alestane | Variables will be loaded at ADDON_LOADED for that addon. |
| 16:40.00 | alcaras_ | Hmm, servers up. I log in: Shutdown in 15 minutes. |
| 16:40.12 | p3lim | if thats true alestane, I thank you for your confirmation |
| 16:40.19 | Shirik|zZz | believe alestane over me |
| 16:40.28 | Shirik|zZz | I just choose to make my code obvious :P |
| 16:40.29 | Osagasu | I have two levels left to get today. :( |
| 16:40.41 | Osagasu | I'm not gonna have enough time |
| 16:41.00 | Lothaer | i paid AUD$99 |
| 16:41.03 | Lothaer | for CE |
| 16:41.06 | opant2 | so, uh guys |
| 16:41.13 | opant2 | some of the realms are up :p |
| 16:41.17 | Lothaer | $89* even |
| 16:41.45 | Osagasu | Not mine |
| 16:42.08 | Shirik|zZz | OH! |
| 16:42.12 | Shirik|zZz | I don't have to teach today, yes! |
| 16:42.24 | Shirik|zZz | I do have to go to the class though in case anyone comes in wanting help, but it won't be nearly as bad as usual >< |
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| 16:43.45 | Beladona | Kaelten: ping |
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| 16:46.31 | Dewin | there needs to be a greentracker |
| 16:47.20 | weziman | mvptracker? |
| 16:48.16 | Duman | man, no ETA on servers coming back up? |
| 16:48.27 | Anaral | Some are up now |
| 16:48.28 | Duman | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert |
| 16:48.35 | Duman | oh? ok |
| 16:48.38 | Shirik|zZz | shh Duman |
| 16:48.39 | Anaral | Who knows for how long though. |
| 16:48.39 | Duman | was jsut reading the alert |
| 16:48.40 | opant2 | 50% about |
| 16:48.47 | Shirik|zZz | Shiibot will let you know when a new alert comes out :) |
| 16:48.48 | Anaral | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/realmstatus/ |
| 16:48.56 | Duman | shirik: ooh :) |
| 16:48.59 | Shirik|zZz | (in theory) |
| 16:49.07 | Duman | my bad ;) |
| 16:49.09 | Anaral | ~love Shiibot |
| 16:49.09 | purl | If you love Shiibot so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh) |
| 16:49.10 | Shirik|zZz | it worked before; I just recently added EU so hopefully I didn't break anything in the process |
| 16:49.34 | Osagasu | Arthas... doooown |
| 16:49.56 | Lothaer | Spinebreaker is the same |
| 16:50.03 | Lothaer | usually one of the last to come up aswell |
| 16:50.09 | Anaral | I wish I was more active on the other servers I have alts on. |
| 16:50.16 | Lothaer | :D |
| 16:50.46 | Anaral | And I am now seeing servers go offline. :( |
| 16:51.06 | Osagasu | yeeep |
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| 16:51.59 | Osagasu | Some servers are coming up, others are going down |
| 16:52.03 | mikma | shirik|zzz: eu in yet? |
| 16:52.13 | Shirik|zZz | in theory |
| 16:52.15 | Shirik|zZz | untested |
| 16:52.23 | Shirik|zZz | but all I did was wrap the old call in a function |
| 16:52.27 | Shirik|zZz | so it should be the same |
| 16:53.19 | Shirik|zZz | so instead of local function --[[ code that checks stuff ]] end, I now have local function genServeralert(eu or us) return function() --[[ code that checks stuff]] end end |
| 16:54.16 | mikma | well we'll see when eu status changes =) |
| 16:54.22 | Shirik|zZz | well |
| 16:54.25 | Shirik|zZz | I guess I can test it like this |
| 16:56.42 | Shirik|zZz | sigh, it's too fast |
| 16:57.09 | mikma | chicks dig a slower one |
| 16:57.09 | Shiibot | New WoW-EU Server Alert: Due to population differences between the highest |
| 16:57.09 | Shiibot | To: Shattered Halls, Burning Steppes |
| 16:57.09 | Shiibot | Please note that this migration may be closed at |
| 16:57.18 | Shirik|zZz | ok well apparently it... sorta works |
| 16:57.31 | Osagasu | My server is up! To level like mad till it goes back down... lol |
| 16:57.47 | mikma | shirik|zzz: you could just make small line like: |
| 16:58.01 | zenzelezz | apparently the mail system is still confused... it keeps sending the Black War Bear to a guildie of mine, he has received 24 so far |
| 16:58.11 | Osagasu | Nice |
| 16:58.11 | Shiibot | New WoW-EU Server Alert: Due to population differences between the highest |
| 16:58.11 | Shiibot | To: Shattered Halls, Burning Steppes |
| 16:58.11 | Shiibot | Please note that this migration may be closed at |
| 16:58.13 | mikma | "EU Status changed! see: http://url" |
| 16:58.15 | Shirik|zZz | nice zenzelezz |
| 16:58.17 | Shirik|zZz | oh that's not good |
| 16:58.19 | Shirik|zZz | !quit die |
| 16:58.39 | Shirik|zZz | ROFL |
| 16:58.40 | Shirik|zZz | :verne.freenode.net 421 Shiibot . :Unknown command |
| 16:58.45 | ambethia | forward me one of those war bears please |
| 16:58.46 | Shirik|zZz | Aparently I'm spammin freenode with . |
| 16:58.53 | mikma | zenzelezz: some dude in the server i am in got 5 in mail, before maintenance |
| 16:59.04 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 16:59.57 | Beladona | are there no curse people here? like people that work on the site? |
| 17:00.15 | mikma | kaelten and ckknight ? |
| 17:00.43 | Shirik|zZz | mikma: Damn you EU people! |
| 17:00.48 | Shirik|zZz | Putting newlines in your serveralerts! |
| 17:00.56 | mikma | shirik|zzz: gigglez! |
| 17:01.20 | mikma | shirik|zzz: hey why wont you just paste the small line i said instead of the whole crap? |
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| 17:01.41 | nevcairiel | Shirik|zZz: actually, there are newlines in there http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert |
| 17:01.44 | mikma | reduces spam and people can check it out theirself |
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| 17:02.12 | Shirik|zZz | nevcairiel: I know, that's the problem |
| 17:02.21 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 17:02.24 | nevcairiel | you didnt want them |
| 17:02.27 | nevcairiel | i misunderstood |
| 17:02.30 | Shirik|zZz | mikma: Because that means people have to check something else :) |
| 17:02.41 | Shirik|zZz | nevcairiel: It's injecting them into my IRC commands |
| 17:02.44 | Shirik|zZz | so my log file is filled with |
| 17:02.56 | Shirik|zZz | :verne.freenode.net 421 Shiibot . :Unknown command |
| 17:02.57 | mikma | shirik|zzz: yeah, little effort when news are interesting |
| 17:02.58 | Shirik|zZz | over and over and over |
| 17:03.03 | nevcairiel | strip newlines? |
| 17:03.07 | Shirik|zZz | working on it :) |
| 17:03.38 | Shirik|zZz | lua> line = "foobar\r\n" return line:match("^(.-)\r?\n?$"); |
| 17:03.38 | lua_bot | Shirik|zZz: foobar |
| 17:03.43 | Shirik|zZz | lua> line = "foobar\n" return line:match("^(.-)\r?\n?$"); |
| 17:03.43 | lua_bot | Shirik|zZz: foobar |
| 17:03.45 | Shirik|zZz | yay |
| 17:03.58 | Neuro_Medivh | Ok, hypothetical question... say I found a 7-11 willing to sell me a copy of Lich King early... should I go ahead and install and upgrade my account now, or wait till later in the day? |
| 17:04.03 | mikma | shirik|zzz: "US status changed, see http://url" or "EU status changed, see http://url" ... |
| 17:04.18 | mikma | shirik|zzz: then you dont neec to do all that crap lol |
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| 17:04.31 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shiibot] by ChanServ |
| 17:04.31 | Shirik|zZz | mikma: But then people have to go check :( |
| 17:04.45 | mikma | shirik|zzz: yes! thats the beauty of it! |
| 17:04.51 | Shirik|zZz | that's annoying! |
| 17:04.56 | mikma | they need to do something |
| 17:05.09 | kd3 | sigh; fark: [Followup] Paulson: The Empire will not purchase toxic assets. Jar Jar Banks: That was never a condition of our agreement. Paulson: I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further. It would be unfortunate if I had to leave a garrison here |
| 17:07.00 | |pez| | Neuro_Medivh: I've got WotLK installed and ready to go! |
| 17:07.08 | |pez| | Just need to upgrade my account. |
| 17:07.16 | |pez| | and... 7-11 sells games over there? 0.o |
| 17:07.45 | Neuro_Medivh | yes |
| 17:07.56 | |pez| | sweet XD |
| 17:07.58 | Neuro_Medivh | and they don't understand the concept of street dates |
| 17:08.01 | Shirik|zZz | 7-11 needs to be renamed 0-23:59 |
| 17:08.10 | Shirik|zZz | it used to be named 7-11 for the times it was open |
| 17:08.12 | Shirik|zZz | now it's upen 24-7 |
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| 17:09.25 | |pez| | street dates? |
| 17:09.34 | Shirik|zZz | ? |
| 17:09.51 | AbsoRayne | I returneth! |
| 17:10.01 | |pez| | never heard of street dates. :P |
| 17:10.14 | |pez| | like... a random date in the street? XD |
| 17:10.17 | Shirik|zZz | oh |
| 17:10.21 | Shirik|zZz | street date = when it's released |
| 17:10.21 | Neuro_Medivh | Street date is when a product is ok to sell |
| 17:11.11 | Neuro_Medivh | it's designed to give everyone the same advantage to sell products at the same time |
| 17:11.32 | Osagasu | This is the same as the ship date in most cases |
| 17:11.33 | Osagasu | not all |
| 17:11.41 | Shirik|zZz | not in the US |
| 17:11.56 | Neuro_Medivh | right... on games/movies/music, they often ship a few days in advance |
| 17:12.07 | Shirik|zZz | when I worked at Best Buy, we had BC like a week early |
| 17:12.12 | Shirik|zZz | naturally, we couldn't sell it |
| 17:12.15 | Shirik|zZz | but it was in the back |
| 17:12.40 | Shirik|zZz | Amazon, etc., are shipping today with rush shipping |
| 17:13.08 | Osagasu | I have 3 copies coming to me |
| 17:13.22 | Osagasu | 2 accounts that I own, and one is an early christmas present |
| 17:14.50 | Shirik|zZz | oh shit |
| 17:14.56 | Shirik|zZz | I just realized Amazon is shipping to the wrong address |
| 17:15.05 | |Jelly| | ownt |
| 17:15.09 | Shirik|zZz | they're shipping to my school |
| 17:15.14 | Shirik|zZz | Now I'm going to have to actually check my mailbox |
| 17:17.19 | Osagasu | ow |
| 17:17.29 | Shirik|zZz | it's not really an issue |
| 17:17.33 | Shirik|zZz | it's just I NEVER check that box |
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| 17:20.02 | Shirik|zZz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBcK7KVxic4 <-- Guitar sequence starting at 2:53 is so awesome |
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| 17:22.52 | Lothaer | just updated ComeHere at wowui and wowi, thanks for the help :P |
| 17:23.45 | mikma | shirik|zzz: that one sounds like "northern kings" |
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| 17:29.42 | Shirik|zZz | ok, time to go to lab |
| 17:29.43 | Shirik|zZz | byes |
| 17:30.55 | kd3 | whee. gold's down to $56. c'mon $1.50/gal gas |
| 17:30.59 | kd3 | s/gold/oil/ |
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| 17:33.33 | weziman | oh kd3 |
| 17:33.36 | weziman | you gave me a heart attack |
| 17:34.04 | mikma | gz on your heart attack! |
| 17:34.24 | weziman | yes, i'm recuperating in the hospital as we speak |
| 17:34.32 | weziman | thank god for health insurance |
| 17:34.42 | kd3 | somehow I think if gold hit 56 (it's 720 atm) I think we'd know |
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| 17:47.37 | Shiibot | New WoW-EU Server Alert: Due to population differences between the highest . and lowest populated PvP realms, the following . Free Character Migration will be available from . October 29th to November 11th:. . From: Grim Batol, Sylvanas |
| 17:47.37 | Shiibot | To: Shattered Halls, Burning Steppes. From: Frostmane, Kazzak. To: Karazhan, Xavius. From: Outland, Al'Akir. To: Haomarush, Auchindoun. From: Burning Legion, Ravencrest. To: Bladefist, Veknilash. |
| 17:47.37 | Shiibot | Please note that this migration may be closed at . any time should a destination realm's population . rise too high.. . For questions and additional information, please . see the migration thread in the General forum.. . . . . . . |
| 17:48.01 | Pneumatus | ooh, Shiibot monitors the alert page? :o |
| 17:48.14 | End | yeah, as of...like last night :P |
| 17:48.18 | Pneumatus | sexy |
| 17:48.53 | leethal | a RSS feed for Shiibot would be approved |
| 17:49.02 | ScytheBlade1 | You have one |
| 17:49.07 | ScytheBlade1 | It's called #wowuidev |
| 17:49.18 | ScytheBlade1 | aka multiplayer notepad! |
| 17:49.24 | |pez| | Haaaaaaah, I made it! :D |
| 17:49.40 | leethal | >< |
| 17:50.43 | nevcairiel | just in time, eh |
| 17:50.52 | |pez| | nevcairiel: mhmmmm! |
| 17:51.16 | |pez| | So... where do I go to get to Northrend tonight? XD Can I zeppelin my way there? |
| 17:51.44 | nevcairiel | horde? then yes |
| 17:51.48 | nevcairiel | org or uc |
| 17:51.58 | nevcairiel | alliance takes boat from stormwind or menethil |
| 17:51.59 | alestane | |pez|: Horde should be able to reach it from outside Orgrimmar or Undercity. The towers are already up. |
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| 17:52.14 | |pez| | Alright! I'll go there, and log off. XD |
| 17:52.22 | |Jelly| | Lunessa: PIIIIIIIIIIIIING |
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| 17:54.37 | AbsoRayne | So how long are we betting it takes my hunters pets name to get reported? |
| 17:54.57 | AbsoRayne | I currently have one of those Firefly Wasps from Zangar named 'Fleshlight' |
| 17:55.09 | Lopeppeppy | |Jelly| Ping! |
| 17:55.12 | Lopeppeppy | Do want! |
| 17:55.31 | erikd | peppy, got a DataText question for you :) |
| 17:55.49 | erikd | is there a bar or anthing you can attach the stuff to? |
| 17:56.02 | erikd | similar to fubar where it pushes the minimap down |
| 17:56.17 | mikma | absorayne: so whats so bad about that name? |
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| 17:56.46 | Lunessa | skidoosh! |
| 17:56.50 | erikd | go look up fleshlight (nsfw) |
| 17:57.04 | Lunessa | Seriousln NSFW |
| 17:57.17 | NeoTron | lol |
| 17:57.34 | NeoTron | summary: Tool for male self-satisfaction |
| 17:57.35 | zenzelezz | AbsoRayne accidentally the whole fleshlight!! |
| 17:57.41 | opant2 | I knew it was that thing |
| 17:57.48 | opant2 | with the 'lips' |
| 17:58.38 | AbsoRayne | zenzelezz: Thats not good |
| 17:58.50 | zenzelezz | I take it you didn't see that thread |
| 17:59.14 | AbsoRayne | meh |
| 17:59.17 | AbsoRayne | it got old fast |
| 17:59.32 | AbsoRayne | About as fast as the 'anal' trend in Trade Chat |
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| 18:00.58 | Lopeppeppy | Erikd, it deliberately doesn't have a bar, put it where you want it to be. Move 'em around. |
| 18:01.09 | weziman | is it as annoying as when people say candlejack and then their sentences aren't co |
| 18:01.09 | Shiibot | New WoW-US Server Alert: November 12, 2008, 10:00AM PST. . We have completed maintenance and all realms are now available for play. Thank you for your patience.. . November 12, 2008, 3:00AM PST. |
| 18:01.09 | Shiibot | We will be performing an urgent maintenance on all realms beginning at 4:00 AM PST. We anticipate no more than three hours of downtime. This maintenance is designed to correct a very recent issue where players were able to obtain certain PvP items without paying the intended price. |
| 18:01.09 | Shiibot | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:01.15 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Lunessa |
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| 18:01.33 | ScytheBlade1 | boo |
| 18:01.36 | ScytheBlade1 | My free epix |
| 18:01.46 | zenzelezz | Mr. T pities the fool who gets tired of "I accidentally the whole <whatever>" |
| 18:02.26 | ScytheBlade1 | "I accidentially the whole economy" is probably my favorite |
| 18:03.21 | erikd | i guess it's a good thing i didn't have enough points to buy my feral staff |
| 18:03.24 | erikd | i would've been sad |
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| 18:04.37 | erikd | In soviet russia, the fool who gets tired of "I accidentally the whole <whatever>" pities an hero, Mr. T. |
| 18:04.46 | AbsoRayne | I really wish that T.N.T. procced as much as it says it does. :/ |
| 18:04.53 | zenzelezz | no-one gives a damn about Soviet Russia, it collapsed long ago |
| 18:04.55 | zenzelezz | ;) |
| 18:05.00 | AbsoRayne | And Deep SV didnt fail @ 70 :/ |
| 18:05.52 | zenzelezz | deep SV? |
| 18:07.28 | mikma | haha |
| 18:07.51 | ScytheBlade1 | lol my teacher is going over basic SQL |
| 18:07.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Time to fall asleep in class |
| 18:08.07 | mikma | i told here last night that everyone will lose the free epix |
| 18:08.56 | AbsoRayne | zenzelezz: Survival |
| 18:09.35 | Lunessa | Maybe Mr. T hacked the game and created a Mohawk class! |
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| 18:11.51 | erikd | so i was sitting here at work and looking at my wow figures i have sitting on my desk and i realized that the staff the druid is holding is the feral staff that drops off Kel'Thuzad in 25 man naxx |
| 18:12.04 | erikd | (yes, i have wow figures on my desk. yes, i'm a geek) |
| 18:12.26 | AbsoRayne | Nothing wrong with that |
| 18:12.44 | Lunessa | Really? I hadn't checked to make sure the staff he had was actually in the game. |
| 18:12.56 | erikd | yup |
| 18:13.01 | Lunessa | Yes, I have 8 WoW action figures on my desk. |
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| 18:13.39 | erikd | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/wotlk/items/beta/items_9061_971.jpg |
| 18:14.02 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm |
| 18:14.22 | Lunessa | http://xkcd.com/503/ |
| 18:14.23 | Shiibot | New WoW-EU Server Alert: Due to population differences between the highest . and lowest populated PvP realms, the following . Free Character Migration will be available from . October 29th to November 11th:. . From: Grim Batol, Sylvanas |
| 18:14.23 | Shiibot | To: Shattered Halls, Burning Steppes. From: Frostmane, Kazzak. To: Karazhan, Xavius. From: Outland, Al'Akir. To: Haomarush, Auchindoun. From: Burning Legion, Ravencrest. To: Bladefist, Veknilash. |
| 18:14.23 | Shiibot | Please note that this migration may be closed at . any time should a destination realm's population . rise too high.. . For questions and additional information, please . see the migration thread in the General forum.. . . . . . . |
| 18:14.30 | NightHawkTheSane | nothing is quite as disturbing as typing my password twice into wow, not seeing it show up, but having -no- idea where it went. |
| 18:15.12 | Lunessa | You know what bugs me about that staff? The BONUS attack power is greater than I have total. |
| 18:15.20 | ScytheBlade1 | NightHawkTheSane: password change go! |
| 18:15.21 | erikd | i'm in ur notepad, stealin' your passwords |
| 18:15.55 | erikd | i have about 3700 in cat form |
| 18:15.55 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: well, as far as i can tell, i didn't type it here, or IM, so im pretty sure it didn't leave the computer. but i don't think i had any other active applications.. |
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| 18:16.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: you know what bugs me about that staff? they -still- use feral AP |
| 18:17.27 | Lunessa | Cat, Dire bear and Moonkin... Moonkin are not feral! They're fluffy and have soft feathers for making pillows. |
| 18:18.54 | erikd | nighthawk: that's really the only way they can give druids AP without making it OP and making it so much better than the alternative for other classes |
| 18:19.29 | NightHawkTheSane | erikd: not really, they just need to scale feral attacks with weapon damage. |
| 18:19.34 | NightHawkTheSane | thats all feral ap does anyway. |
| 18:20.17 | erikd | then you'd be spending more item points on weapon damage and less on stats |
| 18:20.34 | erikd | feral ap is cheaper than weapon damage, i think |
| 18:20.36 | Lunessa | Code Monkey get up get coffee. Code Monkey go to job. |
| 18:20.41 | NightHawkTheSane | it shouldn't be. |
| 18:21.25 | erikd | if they made weapon damage cheaper then classes who actually use weapon damage would be too powerful |
| 18:21.27 | NightHawkTheSane | since ferals don't get any bonus from a weapons actual damage, itemization points spent in feral ap ought to match those spent in weapon dps for non-feral weapons |
| 18:22.56 | erikd | would you really rather see an upgrade as 880 -> 890 top end instead of 300 more ap? (numbers obviously not right :P) |
| 18:23.10 | erikd | seems to me it'd be easier to theorycraft with bigger numbers |
| 18:23.27 | erikd | you'd get into fractions of weapon damage for small upgrades |
| 18:23.38 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* |
| 18:24.04 | NightHawkTheSane | i'd rather see weapons usable by more classes than having the token "feral ap" staff dropping off a boss, or as a quest reward. |
| 18:24.10 | NightHawkTheSane | theorycrafting can adapt :p |
| 18:24.17 | erikd | hehe |
| 18:24.37 | Lunessa | "Posting is currently restricted on this forum" Is there a problem, or did I get a break? |
| 18:24.37 | erikd | i do agree that having moonkin listed on feral ap is dumb |
| 18:24.41 | Thunder_Child | http://www.thinkgeek.com/electronics/home-entertainment/aed3/?cpg=81H |
| 18:24.48 | erikd | they locked all the forums |
| 18:25.13 | NightHawkTheSane | erikd: its probably a relic from when moonkin form returned mana on melee :p |
| 18:25.43 | Lunessa | Ah, ok. I said something snarky last night and wondered if it got me a vacation. :P |
| 18:26.14 | Lunessa | For said snark: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12454622264&sid=1 |
| 18:26.15 | erikd | nighthawk: yeah, i'm sure it is |
| 18:27.39 | Lunessa | That always seemed counter-design intent to me. I mean, really. Moonkin? Melee? Leave that to shaman and feral-specs. |
| 18:28.19 | NightHawkTheSane | It was an awkward design, but I imagine the thought was that moonkin have no "wand", so melee was the only other option for manaless actions |
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| 18:28.47 | NightHawkTheSane | granted, the entire premise was kinda flawed, but meh |
| 18:29.16 | Lunessa | Indeed. Then again, I'm an enhancement shaman, so WTF do I know? |
| 18:29.53 | mikma | PEOPLE WITH WOTLK! if you did a fresh install with WOW+BC, do you need to get the 2.x -> 2.4 patch or is it included in the DVD? |
| 18:29.53 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* i really do wish non-melee shaman, druids, and paladins had something to do that didn't involve using mana or getting into melee. |
| 18:29.58 | erikd | i thought it was dumb as well |
| 18:30.14 | p3lim | Anyone mind posting this on the US forums please? http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=6790689757&postId=68473886396&sid=1#0 |
| 18:30.25 | Lunessa | US forums -= LOcked |
| 18:31.20 | mikma | anyone? |
| 18:31.29 | p3lim | oh ok |
| 18:32.12 | ScytheBlade1 | So the teacher here is using the unencrypted wifi... |
| 18:32.24 | erikd | change the grades! |
| 18:32.31 | Lunessa | mikma: To early for me to tell. I pick up my discs at midnight. |
| 18:32.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Not quite possible but |
| 18:32.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Hijacking her browser sure is |
| 18:32.49 | mikma | someone here did install it already |
| 18:33.59 | erikd | anyone here with a linode? |
| 18:34.05 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 18:34.12 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm talking to you through it now |
| 18:34.34 | erikd | if i upgrade my account with more drive space and create a new image, can i mount it as a seperate drive in the running image? |
| 18:34.45 | ScytheBlade1 | No, requires a reboot |
| 18:35.03 | ScytheBlade1 | hmm class over |
| 18:35.04 | ScytheBlade1 | bbs |
| 18:35.04 | erikd | hrm, so if i wanted more space i'd have to recreate my image? |
| 18:35.07 | erikd | k |
| 18:35.11 | ScytheBlade1 | No, you can resize it |
| 18:35.15 | ScytheBlade1 | (offline) |
| 18:35.18 | erikd | ah |
| 18:36.20 | mikma | oh well |
| 18:36.57 | mikma | i'm just gonna try my luck with WOTLK and hope it will upgrade the game to proper version = i don't have to download the 2.x -> 2.4 |
| 18:37.17 | erikd | you can get it from fileshack in one big file |
| 18:37.19 | kd3 | the wrath dvd has patch 3.0.1 |
| 18:38.25 | mikma | the current problem is the 1.2gb patch that is required for TBC :I |
| 18:38.47 | mikma | hoping i don't have to download that, and i can just install wotlk and it has all the parts needed |
| 18:39.11 | kd3 | the wrath dvd'll get you patched as long as bc's been installed. |
| 18:39.47 | mikma | even with the 2.0 BC? |
| 18:39.51 | kd3 | yes |
| 18:39.59 | mikma | now that's cool. eliminates alot of problems :) |
| 18:43.35 | Beladona | the downloader that was posted supposedly installs WotLK with 3.0.3 |
| 18:43.43 | Beladona | that is, it it begins working again |
| 18:43.53 | kd3 | 30.7% |
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| 18:44.05 | kd3 | guess that means I'll have to run to eb tonight to get install media |
| 18:44.30 | Beladona | thankfully, I can remote in from work, and start the install on my home machine |
| 18:44.43 | durcyn | if they'd just made the client available for download two weeks ago, then sold keys on their website at midnight... |
| 18:44.47 | erikd | if you can get the download installer working |
| 18:44.59 | Beladona | not looking forward to the copy from desktop to laptop over network though |
| 18:45.08 | durcyn | erikd: it checks for a kill bit at blizzard before resuming from akamai, i wouldn't expect it to work before 9PM PST |
| 18:45.18 | clad|gym | Beladona: USB hard drive |
| 18:45.22 | clad|gym | or firewire 800 if possible |
| 18:45.25 | Beladona | yeah |
| 18:45.28 | erikd | ahh, that'd explain it |
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| 18:47.14 | clad|gym | so is my EU server gonna like assplode at midnight EST? |
| 18:47.56 | [dRaCo] | yes |
| 18:48.00 | clad|gym | cool |
| 18:48.15 | [dRaCo] | yes |
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| 18:51.27 | Lunessa | <3 my firewire drive. |
| 18:53.13 | Syzgyn | My server better not asplode at midnight or I'mma be pissed |
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| 18:54.54 | Lunessa | I was able to login to my server briefly before leaving for work. |
| 18:56.05 | Lopeppeppy | Whee! |
| 18:56.12 | Shirik | pregunta: Did Shiibot detect the change in server alert? |
| 18:57.41 | mikma | it did the eu -one 40mins+ ago |
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| 18:59.29 | Lunessa | Shirik: Shiibot is a spammy bitch. |
| 19:00.39 | Lopeppeppy | At least it's server announcements and not stupid 4chan jokes. |
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| 19:03.11 | [dRaCo] | I want a bot that spam stupid 4chan jokes :/ |
| 19:03.55 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/hypnotoad.jpg |
| 19:05.06 | [dRaCo] | what's th... ALL HAIL HYPNOTOAD! |
| 19:09.10 | erikd | http://www.r33b.net |
| 19:09.16 | zenzelezz | ... so I finally vendored lots of green resistance gear or pre-BC epics... my Hearts of Noxxion... so much free space now! |
| 19:10.04 | nevcairiel | you still had the nature resist? |
| 19:10.38 | mikma | cairenn: http://fukung.net/v/283/puppy_pile.jpg |
| 19:10.39 | Shiibot | New WoW-EU Server Alert: Due to population differences between the highest . and lowest populated PvP realms, the following . Free Character Migration will be available from . October 29th to November 11th:. . From: Grim Batol, Sylvanas |
| 19:10.39 | Shiibot | To: Shattered Halls, Burning Steppes. From: Frostmane, Kazzak. To: Karazhan, Xavius. From: Outland, Al'Akir. To: Haomarush, Auchindoun. From: Burning Legion, Ravencrest. To: Bladefist, Veknilash. |
| 19:10.39 | Shiibot | Please note that this migration may be closed at . any time should a destination realm's population . rise too high.. . For questions and additional information, please . see the migration thread in the General forum.. . . . . . . |
| 19:10.46 | Lunessa | I have this ugly compulsion to save every trinket that ends up in my inventory. |
| 19:10.59 | mikma | shirik: lol, "forum.. . . . . . ." |
| 19:11.09 | Cairenn | mikma: seen it before, but too cute |
| 19:11.40 | Cairenn | All forums on the official World of Warcraft forums will be temporarily switched over to read-only mode. While we would like to make every effort to ensure the forums allow the community to interact with each other, the current situation does not allow for this, or allow Blizzard to relay information to the community. Thus, all forums will be available as read-only to allow us to share information with the public. We hope that we can keep t |
| 19:11.54 | mikma | cairenn: "We hope that we can keep t" |
| 19:12.06 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:12.35 | AbsoRayne | Basically, they dont want 100 threads of 'Wheres my Mail?!' |
| 19:12.37 | Lunessa | "If Happy Fun Ball begins to smoke, get away immediately. Seek shelter and cover head. " |
| 19:12.43 | duaiwe | you know, read-only forums sure make it a much more pleasant experience |
| 19:12.52 | Lopeppeppy | I agree, duaiwe. |
| 19:12.59 | alestane | Lunessa: Isn't that Phil Hartman? |
| 19:13.04 | Lopeppeppy | I regret that I can't give anyone help in the UI forum, but I think it's a wicked smart move. |
| 19:13.05 | Lunessa | Yes. |
| 19:13.07 | opant2 | it wouldn't be a forum if its read only now would it? :p |
| 19:13.21 | opant2 | more like..a blog of sorts |
| 19:13.28 | Lunessa | "Happy Fun Ball Contains a liquid core, which, if exposed due to rupture, should not be touched, inhaled, or looked at. " |
| 19:13.29 | mikma | nsfw, funny: http://media.fukung.net/images/4849/maleaniston.jpg |
| 19:13.34 | NightHawkTheSane | opant2: and thus, you see the joy of it. ;) |
| 19:13.45 | opant2 | true |
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| 19:17.06 | Lunessa | Totally safe for work: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7358768984043835546 |
| 19:17.17 | kd3 | hm... wrath in ~10 hours... the shuttle launch in 2 days |
| 19:17.17 | Dashkal | Hrm, question about Sartharion. Ok, killing drakes nets badges, and not killing them nets extra items from the boss himself. The question is are those extra items at a cost of the badges you would have got for killing the drakes? |
| 19:17.20 | kd3 | busy busy |
| 19:17.43 | kd3 | dash; dunno. I was only ever part of raids that killed all 3 |
| 19:17.44 | zenzelezz | 10 hours? More like three and three quarters |
| 19:17.44 | NeoTron | Dashkal: and you get a dargon! |
| 19:18.07 | nevcairiel | Dashkal: the items are definately worth it, and you know, its something to achieve |
| 19:18.17 | Dashkal | nevcairiel: Not saying it's a bad thing, just curious |
| 19:18.23 | nevcairiel | whats 3 badges worth |
| 19:18.26 | nevcairiel | like, nothing |
| 19:18.28 | NeoTron | a few items > a few badges |
| 19:18.30 | Dashkal | well, that's 30 badges... |
| 19:18.46 | nevcairiel | the items dont drop in his normal loot table |
| 19:18.51 | NeoTron | 30 badges buys perhaps 1 low item? |
| 19:19.00 | NeoTron | also the special items are higher ilevel so basically one tier higher |
| 19:19.45 | Dashkal | *nods* not saying the items are bad, just trying to get a feel for how the loot works. Consider a raid that simlpy cannot handle all three but anybody who can use one of the extra items already has it or better |
| 19:19.56 | Dashkal | edge case to be sure |
| 19:20.09 | NightHawkTheSane | haha, "The Sofa King is Sofa-King finished here" hehe, great line. |
| 19:20.34 | NeoTron | do you pretty much need 3 tanks to do it that way btw? (in a 10-man) |
| 19:22.24 | Tekkub | NightHawkTheSane, Read aloud: Eye yam sofa king whee Todd Ed |
| 19:22.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub: yeah, yeah, seen it. :p |
| 19:22.48 | Tekkub | we did that to my insane dyslexic calc teacher... she kept reading it aloud for 5 min before she got it |
| 19:22.53 | Tekkub | it was great fun |
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| 19:28.07 | kd3 | hm, a new forum. 'service status'. hopefully it gets more visibility than 'realm status' |
| 19:28.26 | kd3 | that or they just renamed it. blah |
| 19:29.11 | Shirik | Lunessa? |
| 19:31.37 | Lunessa | Shirik: ? |
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| 19:37.01 | Shirik | Lunessa: You said Shiibot is spammy? |
| 19:37.06 | mikma | http://media.fukung.net/images/6370/hymen-gel.jpg <- that's so pervert eventho nothing bad is being shown |
| 19:37.13 | mikma | so, it's SAFE FOR SHIRIK |
| 19:37.30 | Lunessa | Shirik: It nailed me with status messages bunches when I first logged in. |
| 19:38.13 | Lunessa | mikma: That's what they call "positioning" marketing. |
| 19:39.06 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, I think that was coincidence. Shiibot doesn't do them on join, it just does them when it gets them. |
| 19:40.05 | mikma | http://media.fukung.net/images/9973/d250387de12e5a255a8bf8865ae06ba7.gif |
| 19:40.07 | mikma | damn! |
| 19:40.10 | Lunessa | Probably so, it was just.. unexpected - perhaps if Shiibot said "New status updates! tinyurl.com" and said that it would be better. |
| 19:40.32 | mikma | that makes me realize how god damn huge the tzar actually was |
| 19:41.52 | Dashkal | hrm, that's now as I remember it. Apparently the Savage Gladiator (blue) set no longer requires arena points. Good. |
| 19:42.33 | mikma | dashkal: http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=b8e7c81d659c5ea296a3397900cd042a&page=821 |
| 19:43.06 | Dashkal | mikma: that's the page I'm on |
| 19:45.50 | AbsoRayne | The warrior gear is so ugly |
| 19:45.53 | AbsoRayne | im so glad I dont pvp |
| 19:46.24 | Dashkal | I'll get my blue set eventually. The arena sets can burn for all I care. |
| 19:46.30 | Lunessa | WTB: Sporelings as pets. |
| 19:47.58 | AbsoRayne | all of them are hideous |
| 19:48.00 | AbsoRayne | actually |
| 19:48.02 | AbsoRayne | :/ |
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| 19:48.25 | Dashkal | I like the DK one more than tier 7 (except the helm, but I find most helms suck) |
| 19:49.04 | mikma | http://media.fukung.net/images/1311/blogmonks.gif |
| 19:49.06 | Dashkal | I didn't love Blade's edge so much that I want to dress up as the zone... |
| 19:49.07 | keias | mikma, that gel ad is amazing. |
| 19:49.09 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm. silly question.. is it possible to just run to the translocator thingy in crystalsong at 70 and port up to dalaran? |
| 19:49.21 | |Pixel| | no |
| 19:49.32 | |Pixel| | you can't get to dalaran until level whatever (74 ?) |
| 19:49.45 | |Pixel| | and it's done through a quest from one of the starting area |
| 19:49.45 | NightHawkTheSane | er, yes you can |
| 19:49.49 | Dashkal | I never did find out how you're supposed to get in... Got ported in during my 60s |
| 19:49.56 | |Pixel| | no you can't |
| 19:49.58 | NightHawkTheSane | you can be lock summoned or mage ported in at any level |
| 19:50.03 | |Pixel| | yeah, okay |
| 19:50.07 | alcaras_ | breadcrumb quest at 74 or so |
| 19:50.12 | alcaras_ | i think from an innkeeper, not sure though |
| 19:50.20 | |Pixel| | that was to answer your question about "can you run to the translocator thingy" |
| 19:50.26 | |Pixel| | answer is "no" |
| 19:50.40 | NightHawkTheSane | have you tried? :p |
| 19:50.47 | |Pixel| | yes |
| 19:50.48 | Lunessa | The level 74 quest is from NPCs in the Inns of almost every zone. |
| 19:51.03 | |Pixel| | that got changed during the beta |
| 19:51.03 | *** join/#wowuidev Adys (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 19:51.30 | Adys | unless you're a mage \o/ |
| 19:51.37 | NightHawkTheSane | guess i'll have to harass some mages |
| 19:51.42 | Adys | you get some free attunement q at lvl 71 |
| 19:51.48 | |Pixel| | mais chut toi |
| 19:51.49 | Dashkal | I'm still disappointed that the faction specific dalaran reputations never got implemented |
| 19:51.53 | Adys | :D |
| 19:51.53 | |Pixel| | espèce de tricheur |
| 19:52.06 | keias | What level do mages learn the Dalaran port? |
| 19:52.14 | Adys | tp 71 |
| 19:52.17 | Adys | portal 75 (?) |
| 19:52.40 | mikma | http://media.fukung.net/images/4719/fail.png |
| 19:52.46 | |Pixel| | 74 |
| 19:52.50 | Dashkal | Not to mention the Kirin Tor rep... I failed to make friendly as a human without daily quests... |
| 19:52.50 | keias | ha, awesome. |
| 19:52.57 | |Pixel| | http://www.wowhead.com/?search=Dalaran#abilities |
| 19:53.02 | keias | Guess I might as well level my mage first. |
| 19:53.08 | Dashkal | mikma: bah, that's an easy one to correct |
| 19:53.09 | Adys | yeah mages also start friendly with kirin tor |
| 19:53.10 | Adys | :D |
| 19:53.39 | NeoTron | do DK's start friendly with the Ebon Blade? |
| 19:53.53 | Adys | i believe so |
| 19:54.02 | |Pixel| | can't remember |
| 19:54.05 | kd3 | after they finish the quest chain, yes |
| 19:54.11 | Dashkal | NeoTron: Mine didn't, but it was made relitively early in beta (Before they moved crusader to 70) |
| 19:54.22 | NeoTron | just curious since it would only make sense |
| 19:54.43 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:The_Light_of_Dawn |
| 19:54.45 | Dashkal | Is there an ebon blade rep vendor available before l80? |
| 19:55.04 | kd3 | soon as you finish that quest and wind up on the open world, there's one in acherus |
| 19:55.39 | Dashkal | hrm, wonder if I did get friendly and not notice or if that was changed. Could have sword I was neutral and go friendly in icecrown |
| 19:56.16 | kd3 | did you roll your dk before they implemented acherus? |
| 19:57.04 | |pez| | Maybe I should get a Rhino pet when I get to WotLK |
| 19:57.08 | |pez| | Or.. Northrend. |
| 19:57.12 | alcaras_ | kd3: all pre-acherus dks were wiped (alpha) |
| 19:57.20 | alcaras_ | kd3: but archerus' final quest wasn't in until later |
| 19:57.57 | Dashkal | kd3: It was the new one, but before the second overhaul (I had fallen crusader immediately) |
| 19:58.24 | alcaras_ | oh fallen crusader, how i miss thee |
| 19:58.30 | alcaras_ | now i must wait until level seventy |
| 19:58.36 | Lyn | sb, http://www.deichkurier.de/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/20081111_wow.jpg haha |
| 20:00.00 | NeoTron | alcaras_: it's l70 now? |
| 20:00.02 | NeoTron | dang |
| 20:00.08 | Adys | I'd love to know |
| 20:00.10 | mikma | lyn: scheisse |
| 20:00.25 | Adys | who's actually happy leaving shattrath as home? |
| 20:01.09 | Lyn | mikma, haha |
| 20:01.11 | smcn | i'd hate to be the first 74 mage |
| 20:01.22 | Adys | smcn: /dnd |
| 20:01.39 | mikma | lyn: http://media.fukung.net/images/5155/INTERNETS.gif |
| 20:02.04 | Lyn | :O |
| 20:02.06 | Lopeppeppy | Oh hilarious, "used" copies of the Wrath CE on Amazon for $150 and $199. Hilarious. |
| 20:02.10 | mikma | nsfw, haha! http://media.fukung.net/images/803/sprung_a_leak.jpg "OOH LA LA!" |
| 20:04.13 | Lyn | lol mikma |
| 20:06.20 | Legorol | Lopeppeppy: it's not that unreasonable. A "used" copy still has all the physical goodies (artbook, dvd etc.) that someone might want. |
| 20:06.34 | Legorol | If they buy a regular copy of WotLK for account upgrade purposes, all they miss out on is the in-game pet |
| 20:07.10 | Lopeppeppy | I'm willing to bet they aren't "used" at all, honestly, just being re-sold unopened. |
| 20:07.57 | Lunessa | *huggles his collectors edition recipt* |
| 20:08.18 | Legorol | Lopeppeppy: the funny part is, that reselling one unopened is (whilst highly immoral imo) actually legal |
| 20:08.29 | Legorol | whereas reselling the opened one isn't, as far as i understand |
| 20:08.30 | Dashkal | immoral? |
| 20:08.44 | Dashkal | not a fan of First Sale Doctrine I take it? |
| 20:09.02 | Legorol | morality is based on subjective opinion |
| 20:09.13 | Legorol | therefore i can label it immoral :) |
| 20:09.14 | Shiibot | New WoW-US Server Alert: November 12, 2008, 10:00AM PST. . We have completed maintenance and all realms are now available for play. Thank you for your patience.. . November 12, 2008, 3:00AM PST. |
| 20:09.14 | Shiibot | We will be performing an urgent maintenance on all realms beginning at 4:00 AM PST. We anticipate no more than three hours of downtime. This maintenance is designed to correct a very recent issue where players were able to obtain certain PvP items without paying the intended price. |
| 20:09.14 | Shiibot | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:10.03 | Legorol | Dashkal: i don't tknow what the first sale doctrine is |
| 20:11.14 | Legorol | The reason I think it's immoral is because it results in people buying CEs purely for the purposes of reselling, thereby reducing supply and so the number available at the original price for those only interested in getting a copy and not profiting is lower. |
| 20:11.38 | Lopeppeppy | Like scalping tickets. |
| 20:11.42 | Dashkal | The legal precedent that allows used book stores to operate. Once sold, the object becomes property of the purchaser and may be resold. |
| 20:12.03 | Legorol | Dashkal: that's true, but there is a difference here |
| 20:12.10 | alestane | It's mostly just about the people who are trying to convert scarcity directly into money. |
| 20:12.16 | Dashkal | I'm not a fan of artificial scarcity |
| 20:12.24 | Legorol | The EULA/ToU that you agree to when you upgrade your account prevents you from selling on the physical goodies afaik |
| 20:12.26 | *** part/#wowuidev Beladona (n=Beladona@24.129.136.26) |
| 20:12.26 | Dashkal | So I dislike the collector's edition on general principal |
| 20:12.30 | Lunessa | I like things to be my property after I've exchanged cash for them. |
| 20:13.16 | Dashkal | Legorol: those clauses may or may not actually count for anything depending on jurisdiction. |
| 20:13.18 | |Jelly| | Lunessa/Peppy transfer to my server and roll horde. I need a healer. <3 |
| 20:13.36 | alestane | The collector's is partly about scarcity and prestige, but also about more cash for more goodies, which is a perfectly reasonable trade. |
| 20:13.37 | Lunessa | |Jelly|: I'm sick to death of being a main healer. |
| 20:13.40 | Lopeppeppy | |Jelly|, re-rolling as your healer won't get me all caught up to your 70, but thanks. |
| 20:13.57 | Lunessa | What we need is some R-A-F action going on. |
| 20:14.05 | Lopeppeppy | ? |
| 20:14.11 | |Jelly| | Sure it will, I don't need anything and I'm the ML. :P |
| 20:14.11 | Lunessa | Recruit A Friend |
| 20:14.58 | Legorol | Dashkal: it's also possible i remember wrong, it's been a while, and the clauses don't prevent you from transferring physical goods |
| 20:15.07 | Legorol | I may be mixing it up with the clauses on transferring account ownership |
| 20:16.05 | Legorol | btw, has anyone noticed the change to EULA to now include a reference to Locked Software? |
| 20:16.17 | Legorol | I bet that's a result of the wowglider lawsuit |
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| 20:19.12 | Gnarfoz | lua> string.format("%s%s(100 - 51) |
| 20:19.13 | lua_bot | Gnarfoz: luabot:1: unfinished string near '<eof>' |
| 20:19.22 | NeoTron | ~fail Gnarfoz |
| 20:19.23 | purl | Gnarfoz: FAIL! |
| 20:19.29 | Gnarfoz | yadda yadda |
| 20:20.01 | Gnarfoz | lua> string.format("%s%s(100 - 51)", prior or "", prior and " and " or "") |
| 20:20.01 | lua_bot | Gnarfoz: (100 - 51) |
| 20:20.50 | Gnarfoz | lua> string.format("%s%s(100 / 51)", prior or "", prior and " and " or "") |
| 20:20.51 | lua_bot | Gnarfoz: (100 / 51) |
| 20:21.32 | Gnarfoz | what |
| 20:21.35 | Gnarfoz | hm. |
| 20:21.39 | NeoTron | prior is nil |
| 20:22.06 | Shirik | mikma: The .. . . . . . . is due to your stupid EU server alert messages |
| 20:22.08 | NeoTron | lua> prior = "Gnarfoz" string.format("%s%s(100 / 51)", prior or "", prior and " and " or "") |
| 20:22.09 | lua_bot | NeoTron: No output |
| 20:22.11 | Shirik | that have five million newlines after it |
| 20:22.16 | mikma | shirik: fix it lol |
| 20:22.24 | NeoTron | lua> prior = "Gnarfoz" return string.format("%s%s(100 / 51)", prior or "", prior and " and " or "") |
| 20:22.25 | lua_bot | NeoTron: Gnarfoz and (100 / 51) |
| 20:22.26 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: that's not a problem ^^ |
| 20:22.44 | Gnarfoz | I'm trying to fix Aloft showing 0% for mobs that have 0.9% hp |
| 20:22.59 | Gnarfoz | but it's so damn convoluted that I'm having a hard time finding the actual code |
| 20:23.13 | Gnarfoz | it has its own damn TagCompiler thing :O |
| 20:23.26 | *** join/#wowuidev Adys (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 20:23.30 | NeoTron | hehe |
| 20:23.36 | Gnarfoz | which I think is based on the original WatchDog tags? |
| 20:23.48 | Gnarfoz | but anyway :O I guess I'll wait until the new maintainer fixes it himself |
| 20:23.56 | NeoTron | part of why it's so resource hungry, other than the difficulty of actually dealing with the nameplates? |
| 20:24.08 | Gnarfoz | quite probably, yes |
| 20:24.21 | Gnarfoz | it can do a shitton of things, most of which I don't even use, so they hopefully don't have much of an impact |
| 20:24.27 | Gnarfoz | but it can do them. :D |
| 20:25.13 | Shirik | Okay guys, pop quiz |
| 20:25.13 | Shiibot | New WoW-EU Server Alert: Due to population differences between the highest . and lowest populated PvP realms, the following . Free Character Migration will be available from . October 29th to November 11th:. . From: Grim Batol, Sylvanas |
| 20:25.13 | Shiibot | To: Shattered Halls, Burning Steppes. From: Frostmane, Kazzak. To: Karazhan, Xavius. From: Outland, Al'Akir. To: Haomarush, Auchindoun. From: Burning Legion, Ravencrest. To: Bladefist, Veknilash. |
| 20:25.13 | Shiibot | Please note that this migration may be closed at . any time should a destination realm's population . rise too high.. . For questions and additional information, please . see the migration thread in the General forum.. . . . . . . |
| 20:25.21 | Shirik | er...... how did that change! |
| 20:25.23 | Shirik | You lie |
| 20:25.45 | Gnarfoz | most importantly, it's the only mod that does actual frame modification :\ |
| 20:25.50 | Lyn | I AM BOOOOOOOOOOOORED |
| 20:25.52 | Shirik | Anyway, pop quiz |
| 20:26.25 | Shirik | SEE MIKMA |
| 20:26.28 | Shirik | YOUR EVIL EU ALERTS |
| 20:26.52 | mikma | yes, i told you what to do but you said people don't want to check stuff by theirself :D |
| 20:27.41 | Lunessa | Gnarfoz: Bah, just use art overrides and call it good? |
| 20:28.02 | Gnarfoz | Lunessa: that's why I said: it's the only one that does frame modification |
| 20:28.07 | Shirik | it keeps going back and forth between two serveralerts on EU |
| 20:28.08 | Shirik | it's strange |
| 20:28.18 | Shirik | are you guys doing something crazy? |
| 20:28.19 | Gnarfoz | I want the name above the rest |
| 20:28.24 | Shirik | ~serveralert |
| 20:28.41 | Gnarfoz | if that can somehow be done with just art modification a la evl_nameplates, then I wants it :D |
| 20:28.57 | Lunessa | Gnarfoz: I know. I ditched it for being a huge resource pig that I hardly ever used. If I want name plates to look different, I just create an Interface folder with new art for them. |
| 20:29.08 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, ! maybe |
| 20:29.16 | Shirik | no, I was addressing purl |
| 20:30.02 | Gnarfoz | Lunessa: well, that's the point, I think that's not doable with art |
| 20:30.07 | NightHawkTheSane | heh.. http://notalwaysright.com/pbjs-in-my-pjs/1349 |
| 20:30.29 | Gnarfoz | Lunessa: http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/strath.jpg |
| 20:30.42 | Gnarfoz | note the light red background behind the name text |
| 20:30.47 | Lunessa | Gnarfoz: http://www.vranx.com/nameplates.htm |
| 20:30.53 | Gnarfoz | I know the page |
| 20:31.10 | Lunessa | Ok, I see what you're looking for. |
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| 20:31.34 | Shirik | !reload |
| 20:31.35 | Shiibot | AI routines & configuration reloaded |
| 20:31.36 | Gnarfoz | granted, it's minor, but meh, I think I have more serious ressource hogs hidden somewhere |
| 20:31.45 | Gnarfoz | I need to do some raiding with profiling enabled some time soon |
| 20:31.56 | Gnarfoz | I'm missing HUGE chunks of performance recently :\ |
| 20:32.27 | NightHawkTheSane | i stole them. |
| 20:32.29 | Gnarfoz | 8800gtx, c2d e6750, 4gb ram should not drop down to 15fps during trash pulls in a 25man raid (with no AA, shadows at medium, texture filtering not maxed out) |
| 20:33.35 | Lunessa | Gnarfoz: I'm also using an 8800 card (but not the gtx) and 2gb of ram. I have most everything cranked way up. And I rarely drop below 20 fps even on the most AoE heavy fights. |
| 20:34.04 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I'm aware something is seriously chewing up my fps :O |
| 20:34.10 | Gnarfoz | just not sure what's to blame, yet |
| 20:34.24 | pompy | i get 3-7 fps in hyjal :( |
| 20:34.28 | Gnarfoz | one thing that makes it hard is the fact that all profiling addons I know don't have an option to reset counters to 0 |
| 20:34.37 | Gnarfoz | so startup CPU churn doesn't skew numbers |
| 20:35.04 | Gnarfoz | if I trusted numbers that appear for like, the first 5 minutes after enabling profiling, AckisRecipeList would be the biggest ressource hog of my UI. |
| 20:35.07 | Gnarfoz | that's just not true :P |
| 20:35.22 | Gnarfoz | it does some heavy stuff on login, it seems, but after that, nothing |
| 20:36.04 | Lunessa | Hrm according to http://www.wowwiki.com/Combat_rating_system my lousy 44points of Expertise ought to be enough for most fights at 80. |
| 20:36.53 | Lunessa | Ah, no. I see my mistake. I need much more. |
| 20:37.28 | Gnarfoz | yep. :> |
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| 20:38.38 | Lunessa | What I have is fine at 70. Not much good beyond that. :P |
| 20:41.35 | Shirik | wtf? http://notalwaysright.com/the-perfect-customer/1345 |
| 20:42.48 | Lopeppeppy | Stupid is as stupid does, that's what my Momma always said. |
| 20:43.17 | Shirik | did you tell her that stupid is not a person? |
| 20:44.02 | Lopeppeppy | Oh yes, it very much is, that's what the Darwin Awards are all about. |
| 20:44.37 | Dashkal | Shirik: I'm not even surprised by that one. Some people are so phobic of change they really would prefer to pay more and leave things as they are |
| 20:47.26 | erikd | dashkal: like this person? http://notalwaysright.com/the-perfect-customer/1345 |
| 20:47.53 | Dashkal | erikd: Um, he just linked that :p |
| 20:47.59 | erikd | oh |
| 20:47.59 | NightHawkTheSane | erikd: ... that would be precisely what Dashkal was replying to, yes. |
| 20:48.00 | erikd | HAH |
| 20:48.03 | erikd | i didn't even see that |
| 20:48.06 | NightHawkTheSane | reading up six lines ftw? :) |
| 20:48.22 | erikd | i read up to see if it was linked but it was hidden in some quits so i missed it |
| 20:48.27 | erikd | TOO MANY SYMBOLS |
| 20:48.40 | Dashkal | mmm, conference mode |
| 20:49.21 | erikd | today is shaping up to be a good day |
| 20:49.28 | NightHawkTheSane | i tried using conference mode. But i got really confused and started talking to people who had left like 5 minutes ago |
| 20:49.36 | erikd | got stuff at work done to where my goal was for the week, jimmy johns for lunch and wotlk tonight! |
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| 20:50.04 | Shiibot | New WoW-EU Server Alert: Due to population differences between the highest . and lowest populated PvP realms, the following . Free Character Migration will be available from . October 29th to November 11th:. . From: Grim Batol, Sylvanas |
| 20:50.04 | Shiibot | To: Shattered Halls, Burning Steppes. From: Frostmane, Kazzak. To: Karazhan, Xavius. From: Outland, Al'Akir. To: Haomarush, Auchindoun. From: Burning Legion, Ravencrest. To: Bladefist, Veknilash. |
| 20:50.04 | Shiibot | Please note that this migration may be closed at . any time should a destination realm's population . rise too high.. . For questions and additional information, please . see the migration thread in the General forum.. . . . . . . |
| 20:51.37 | Dashkal | NightHawkTheSane: I've done that a time or two |
| 20:51.56 | nevcairiel | Shirik: i dont see the alert changing, you sure it works? |
| 20:52.00 | Dashkal | But it's rare enough that the reduction in spam is good |
| 20:52.00 | Lunessa | Shirik: Isn't that essentially the same damned update? |
| 20:52.10 | Shirik | Yeah I'm going to disable the EU one temporarily |
| 20:52.13 | Shirik | something's jacked up with it |
| 20:52.18 | NightHawkTheSane | the spam really only bothers me when there's a netsplit. |
| 20:52.32 | Shirik | !reload |
| 20:52.32 | Shiibot | AI routines & configuration reloaded |
| 20:52.40 | Shirik | For some reason it's detecting two different EU alerts |
| 20:52.41 | NightHawkTheSane | i've got the colors set to joins/parts/nick changes are a dull grey, so i can skim over it easily |
| 20:54.19 | Shirik | I know what it is |
| 20:54.25 | Shirik | it's a damn race condition |
| 20:54.36 | Shirik | If I check while it's updating the file |
| 20:56.06 | Lunessa | Well, I'm going to need a crapton more hit at 80. Like, a metric craptonne. |
| 20:56.37 | NightHawkTheSane | you and everyone else |
| 20:57.22 | Dashkal | The hit requirements at 80 are pretty *blink* worthy. I'm gonna have to troll EJ and see if it's still really worth capping at the cost of everything else |
| 20:57.49 | cbreak | why? it's still 17%. |
| 20:57.58 | NightHawkTheSane | for casters. |
| 20:57.59 | cbreak | and it was never a good idea to cap it at the cost of everything else |
| 20:58.08 | cbreak | it was just the cheapest stat to improve dps on gear |
| 20:58.28 | Dashkal | cbreak: some argued otherwise, claiming that the item budget -> DPS increase was flat-out better for hit over pretty much anything |
| 20:59.00 | cbreak | they were dumb. |
| 20:59.06 | Dashkal | I'm not sure I agree with that but it's so easy for druids it was a moot point |
| 20:59.23 | cbreak | 1 hit rating was better than 1 crit rating, but 1 hit rating was never better than 10 spell damage. |
| 20:59.52 | Dashkal | I'm always phys DPS. So the comparason for me is ATP or Strength/Agi |
| 21:00.42 | Dashkal | Also, isn't 1 hit rating on a similar stat cost to 1 AP or 1 SP? (rating, not %) |
| 21:01.20 | cbreak | probably |
| 21:01.26 | cbreak | I never bothered to look at that |
| 21:01.30 | Dashkal | Been a long while since I've seen the budget values |
| 21:01.33 | NeoTron | cbreak: actually from a pure dps increase point of view, hit greatly outvalued other stats |
| 21:01.38 | cbreak | but 1 hit rating gives more power than 1 crit rating (for casters) |
| 21:01.40 | NeoTron | for casters at least |
| 21:01.56 | cbreak | it rating does, but not hit% |
| 21:01.56 | NeoTron | and it was better than the equivalent spell dmg |
| 21:02.06 | Dashkal | I have to care more now since I'm switching to a DK. Hit raiting isn't quite as cheap on plate as it was on leather |
| 21:02.12 | cbreak | and if I have to chose between 1 hit and 10 damage, I chose the damage... |
| 21:02.15 | Dashkal | I'm not going to 'automatically' hit cap anymore |
| 21:02.23 | cbreak | capping hit is worthless. |
| 21:02.35 | NeoTron | cbreak: so very wrong |
| 21:02.42 | Dashkal | Run some DPS charts and see just how much you lose to misses |
| 21:02.57 | cbreak | it's true NeoTron. |
| 21:03.01 | NeoTron | I think hit rating was worth about 50% more than spell dmg in my spreadsheet |
| 21:03.11 | cbreak | if you sacrifice everything for it, you won't get good dps |
| 21:03.24 | foxlit | And reality has a well-known spreadsheet bias! |
| 21:03.33 | cbreak | hit is one way to improve damage, it's not the only one. :) |
| 21:03.36 | Dashkal | "sacrificing everything" shouldn't be taken literally. You'll always get the otehr stats |
| 21:03.39 | NeoTron | you don't have to sacrifice a lot |
| 21:03.47 | NeoTron | but gem for it if you have a choice |
| 21:03.50 | Dashkal | Gear doesn't comple utterly blank of stats with lots of gen slots |
| 21:04.11 | NeoTron | Dashkal: and for DK's hit is more or less equal to strength |
| 21:04.26 | Dashkal | NeoTron: Oh? Sweet |
| 21:04.31 | NeoTron | and both are greatly more advantageous than any other stat |
| 21:04.34 | Dashkal | That lets me stress quite a bit less |
| 21:04.38 | NeoTron | http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t36303-death_knight_dps_compendium/ |
| 21:04.41 | Dashkal | NeoTron: How is haste for a 2h? |
| 21:04.59 | NeoTron | bad |
| 21:05.12 | NeoTron | haste and agility are the worst stats |
| 21:05.17 | NeoTron | least "bad" for blood |
| 21:05.33 | NeoTron | actually least bad for unholy .. for some reason |
| 21:06.11 | Dashkal | *nods* I'll take your word on that, I don't know the white percentages for frost or unholy |
| 21:06.32 | Shirik | !reload |
| 21:06.33 | Shiibot | AI routines & configuration reloaded |
| 21:06.37 | Shirik | ok hopefully I fixed it Lunessa |
| 21:06.40 | NeoTron | overall though haste is never good |
| 21:06.55 | Shirik | I reworked how the processes communicate with each other |
| 21:07.13 | Dashkal | NeoTron: *nods* that's what I needed to know. I'm looking at Str == Hit > Crit > AP then? |
| 21:07.39 | Dashkal | there's the table, ok, I can stop pestering you now |
| 21:07.48 | NeoTron | str == hit > exp > crit > ap |
| 21:08.08 | Dashkal | oh wow haste is bad |
| 21:08.11 | NeoTron | agility is really low too |
| 21:08.22 | NeoTron | because it only gives us crit and a tiny amount of AP if you get the talent |
| 21:08.26 | NeoTron | but it doesn't give spell crit |
| 21:08.37 | Dashkal | Blood is currently top DPS? O.o |
| 21:08.51 | NeoTron | theorycrafting |
| 21:08.54 | NeoTron | and likely single target |
| 21:09.01 | Dashkal | I was under the impression I was getting away with it only because my guild never forces specs unless absolutely necessary |
| 21:09.07 | weziman | CEST = GMT +/-??? |
| 21:09.12 | NeoTron | all specs are capable of good dps |
| 21:09.19 | NeoTron | unholy likely would top out in naxx due to... aoe |
| 21:09.32 | Dashkal | I'd still like to blood tank, but I think I'll prolly bite it and unholy tank |
| 21:09.45 | Lunessa | I'm considering my gearing plan to be Hit > Attack Power > Haste > Crit > Agility for my Enhancement shaman, dual-wielding and using either dual-WF or WF/Ft combo. |
| 21:10.18 | NeoTron | and of course that is 2H stats |
| 21:10.23 | NeoTron | it would be different for DW |
| 21:10.29 | NeoTron | like haste being more valuable |
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| 21:10.42 | Lunessa | CEST? |
| 21:10.43 | Dashkal | Stupid question: APR means what? |
| 21:10.57 | Shirik | annual percentage rate |
| 21:11.23 | weziman | Lunessa, european something |
| 21:11.29 | Lunessa | weziman: Central Standard Time = GMT -6 |
| 21:11.29 | Dashkal | heh, in DPS terms... I don't recognize the abbreviation |
| 21:11.36 | weziman | Lunessa, CEST not CST |
| 21:11.40 | Shirik | attack power? |
| 21:11.52 | Dashkal | There's an "AP" above it in the table |
| 21:11.59 | nevcairiel | CEST is over |
| 21:12.02 | nevcairiel | we have CET now |
| 21:12.03 | Lunessa | http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/eu/cest.html |
| 21:12.03 | Shirik | APR = AP + R |
| 21:13.47 | NeoTron | armor penetration rating |
| 21:14.07 | Dashkal | NeoTron: Aha, danke |
| 21:14.09 | Shirik | well, Lunessa either it's fixed or really broke |
| 21:14.16 | Shirik | it seems Shiibot has decided to stop spamming the EU alert |
| 21:14.17 | Dashkal | It's valued above hit rating for blood |
| 21:14.21 | Lunessa | Shirik: /comfort. |
| 21:14.24 | Shirik | now the real question is, will he pick up the correct alerts |
| 21:14.41 | Dashkal | *facepalm* of course it is, our primary nuke is physical (Heart Strike) |
| 21:14.42 | NeoTron | Dashkal: no it's not! |
| 21:14.57 | Dashkal | NeoTron: crossed wires, meant to say attack power |
| 21:14.58 | NeoTron | 1 hit = 2.66, 1 apr = 1.04 |
| 21:15.05 | NeoTron | ah. yep |
| 21:15.15 | NeoTron | blood is very physical |
| 21:15.41 | Dashkal | Most importantly to me it means about the only stats I need to explicitly avoid are agility and haste |
| 21:16.16 | Shirik | p.s. |
| 21:16.16 | Shirik | This is the EXACT REASON why RTOSes exist |
| 21:16.16 | NeoTron | those numbers btw are ~25m naxx level gear |
| 21:16.26 | Shirik | I wonder if I can convince Linode to let me install an RTOS on the server |
| 21:16.29 | weziman | APR = armor penetration |
| 21:16.44 | Lunessa | Where as for me, I think I need lots of of haste so I can use big, hard-hitting, slow weapons dual wield. |
| 21:16.47 | Shirik | how the hell do you get APR out of armor penetration |
| 21:16.59 | Dashkal | Shirik: Armour Pen is a rating now |
| 21:17.03 | Shirik | no |
| 21:17.07 | Shirik | how do you get the acronym APR |
| 21:17.08 | weziman | Armor Penetration Rating |
| 21:17.11 | Lunessa | Armor Penetratio Rating |
| 21:17.12 | Shirik | oh |
| 21:17.31 | weziman | i typically say ArP |
| 21:17.46 | weziman | but i guess APR will work now |
| 21:17.54 | Lunessa | As long as it's not AARP, I'm down. |
| 21:17.58 | NeoTron | since it's a ratign APR ~= ArP |
| 21:18.20 | Dashkal | ArP made sense when it was a flat scaler. I like the new math better since it no longer has a heavy bias vs clothies |
| 21:18.49 | Adys | What are the functions for current xp and max xp? |
| 21:19.07 | weziman | UnitXP something like that |
| 21:19.15 | weziman | UnitXP('player') |
| 21:19.23 | kd3 | UnitXP, UnitXPMax? |
| 21:19.29 | Adys | bingo |
| 21:19.30 | Adys | thanks |
| 21:20.02 | weziman | GetPetExperience for hunter pets |
| 21:22.23 | NeoTron | man some people are excessive |
| 21:22.35 | NeoTron | "300 health potions, 100 flasks of relentless assault, 50 adamantite sharpening stones" |
| 21:22.43 | NeoTron | "1 fully enchanted set of gear for level 63, 1 fully enchanted set of gear for level 68" ... |
| 21:22.51 | NeoTron | wow |
| 21:23.05 | Dashkal | Nothing better to do waiting for WotLK? |
| 21:24.02 | Lopeppeppy | Committed to their PvP? |
| 21:24.07 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: proof positive that there IS such a thing as -far- too much time on your hands |
| 21:24.07 | NeoTron | funny thing is I think I used a total of like 3-4 health pots on till 70 |
| 21:24.32 | NeoTron | enchanted gear at 68.. that will be outclassed by quest gear between 68-70.. :P |
| 21:24.35 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: yeah, but were you leveling 60-70 when blood was stupidlyl OP? :P |
| 21:24.38 | kd3 | crap. did they fix first aid so we can start using frostweave cloth at 375? |
| 21:24.51 | NeoTron | also got all pre-collected quest items for the outlands zones |
| 21:25.03 | NeoTron | kd3: pretty sure you always could |
| 21:25.05 | NightHawkTheSane | kd3: er, it was always that way, wasn't it? |
| 21:25.12 | NeoTron | netherweave doesn't bring you past 380 at most |
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| 21:25.17 | kd3 | not in alpha |
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| 21:25.34 | kd3 | we had to get close to 400 the first time around before we could use fw |
| 21:25.49 | NightHawkTheSane | well, when i played beta, you could use frostweave right away |
| 21:26.08 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont know what tweaks they made since then, but i doubt they made it harder again |
| 21:26.21 | Cidan | Shirik: Wee, fancy new animations added for opening and closing windows. |
| 21:26.40 | |pez| | Aww, that sucks. |
| 21:26.42 | mikma | heh |
| 21:26.57 | |pez| | I jumped on the zep to Northrend (early?) and I got bumped to Durotar. :\ |
| 21:27.44 | mikma | lots of people here waiting for 0:00 |
| 21:27.44 | erikd | BOOM |
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| 21:29.07 | cbreak | Hmm... We have death knights on our server. at 22:25 |
| 21:29.07 | mikma | gamemasters! |
| 21:29.07 | Lopeppeppy | Report them, let the GMs sort it out. |
| 21:29.07 | |pez| | I think blizzard has done a booboo |
| 21:29.08 | Stanzilla | same cbreak |
| 21:29.08 | mikma | they are gm's lol |
| 21:29.08 | |pez| | since I just saw the zep to ... Borean Tundra. |
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| 21:29.08 | Stanzilla | and some people leveling on tundra etc, too |
| 21:29.08 | cbreak | a guildie used the boat, got ported back... :/ |
| 21:29.08 | *** part/#wowuidev Lopeppeppy (n=Lopeppep@141.222.30.131) |
| 21:29.29 | |pez| | cbreak: that's pretty much what happened to me now, and it said I didn't have WotLK installed. ;__; |
| 21:29.43 | Shirik | hmmmm |
| 21:29.43 | Shirik | That's a good idea |
| 21:29.43 | Shirik | I should be able to make a ;_; operator too |
| 21:30.10 | |pez| | Ah, account manager says WotLK account |
| 21:30.29 | |pez| | yay for me. |
| 21:30.29 | |pez| | I'll go away now. |
| 21:30.53 | NightHawkTheSane | is it just me, or does this release seem.. disorganized? |
| 21:31.03 | NeoTron | NightHawkTheSane: business as usual |
| 21:31.30 | NightHawkTheSane | maybe, maybe its just an artifact of the sheer scale of it |
| 21:31.30 | alestane | It's hard to practice these things. |
| 21:31.41 | Esamynn | WotLK isn't "enabled" until 9pm PST |
| 21:31.42 | nevcairiel | it was 0:00 in russia when wrath went live on EU servers |
| 21:32.04 | Esamynn | at which point, you will have to log out and log back in for your account to show up as WotLK enabled |
| 21:32.32 | Esamynn | oh, EU, has it actually gone live there? |
| 21:32.36 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 21:32.54 | cbreak | and I am still waiting for my Box... *grumble* |
| 21:32.59 | Esamynn | if it's still saying you dont have wotlk installed, try relogging |
| 21:33.03 | Esamynn | all the way to the login screen |
| 21:33.15 | nevcairiel | I only get my box tomorrow, so shrug |
| 21:33.54 | Shirik | oh wow |
| 21:34.01 | Esamynn | yuck |
| 21:34.37 | NightHawkTheSane | yikes |
| 21:34.49 | NightHawkTheSane | that must have been a hell of a split |
| 21:35.04 | kd3 | 10k and services |
| 21:35.07 | kd3 | eesh |
| 21:35.31 | erikd | it's anarchy! |
| 21:35.31 | erikd | run for your lives! |
| 21:35.31 | *** kick/#wowuidev [erikd!n=nospam@conspiracy/developer/Shirik] by Shirik (anarchy this) |
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| 21:35.38 | erikd | >< |
| 21:35.45 | erikd | just wait until the zombies come for you |
| 21:35.51 | erikd | then you'll be glad i warned you |
| 21:35.57 | Shirik | What makes you think I'm not one of them? |
| 21:36.01 | erikd | ... |
| 21:36.07 | NightHawkTheSane | your |
| 21:36.11 | NightHawkTheSane | you're a bit too coherent |
| 21:36.16 | Shirik | !! |
| 21:36.19 | Shirik | Someone just called me coherent |
| 21:36.20 | erikd | Shiibot's a zombie |
| 21:36.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: i know, a first i'm sure |
| 21:39.34 | mikma | rofl |
| 21:39.53 | mikma | some dudes look like they have been awake for 48h+ |
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| 21:41.12 | cbreak | the achievement spamm of tradeskill levelers is annoying :/ |
| 21:41.55 | NeoTron | lol |
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| 21:48.30 | mikma | meh, inside the store |
| 21:48.30 | mikma | but still 10min to go lawl |
| 21:48.42 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+rRf #shiibot] by Shiibot |
| 21:48.42 | Shiibot | Channel locked temporarily. Elapsed time: 285 minutes |
| 21:48.57 | NightHawkTheSane | thank you, Shiibot. |
| 21:49.18 | mikma | awesome queue, we got posters *shocked* (wake up and smell the irony) |
| 21:49.53 | Kaso | ~seen Sagaci |
| 21:50.05 | purl | sagaci <n=Sagaci@203.221.13.76> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowhead, 42d 18h 31m 51s ago, saying: 'i see'. |
| 21:52.38 | cbreak | I wonder if IRC would be more stable if it were a ring instead of a chain. |
| 21:53.02 | nevcairiel | isnt it a star? |
| 21:53.18 | nevcairiel | well multiple stars, anyway |
| 21:53.23 | nevcairiel | sucks when the hub goes down |
| 21:53.24 | cbreak | hmm... |
| 21:55.27 | cog|work | If you hook two switches together with two cables, will they intelligently use them? Does it depend on the model? |
| 21:55.46 | nevcairiel | depends on model |
| 21:55.57 | nevcairiel | if they dont support it, you get a loop |
| 21:55.59 | nevcairiel | and its bad :D |
| 21:56.16 | nevcairiel | if they are half-smart, one link is disabled as fallback |
| 21:56.24 | nevcairiel | and if they are really smart, they aggregate the links |
| 21:56.48 | nevcairiel | look for Spanning Tree or LACP support |
| 21:56.53 | Lunessa | But really smart generally = spendy enterprise-level hardware. |
| 21:56.55 | NeoTron | so most likely you'll create a loop! |
| 21:57.08 | nevcairiel | Lunessa: nah, LACP can be found in entry-level switches these days |
| 21:57.23 | nevcairiel | (Link Aggregation Control Protcotol) |
| 21:57.24 | NeoTron | I remember back when buying a switch was an economical investment over buying a hub |
| 21:57.50 | nevcairiel | Protocol* |
| 21:57.52 | nevcairiel | what a typo |
| 22:03.03 | Dashkal | One thing I notice about this EJ post's discussion of blood is that it still considers blood presence better than unholy. I found unholy better because I found myself pretty badly GCD constrained. I guess that may be less of an issue at T7.25 level thanks to far less misses and dodges |
| 22:03.45 | NeoTron | I think further testing is needed |
| 22:04.02 | NightHawkTheSane | it may depend on your build too |
| 22:04.16 | NightHawkTheSane | i didn't feel -too- gcd constrained as blood, but did moreso as frost |
| 22:04.30 | Dashkal | My preferred spec is non-optimal. 51/0/20 (I refuse to live without pale horse) |
| 22:04.31 | NeoTron | Unholy doesn' tneed unholy aura at all, but both frost and blood to me seem somewhat gcd starved |
| 22:04.36 | Dashkal | And I take sudden death |
| 22:04.49 | NightHawkTheSane | i never liked sudden death |
| 22:04.50 | NeoTron | NightHawkTheSane: using SD when it's optimal can change things |
| 22:04.53 | NeoTron | i.e after every proc |
| 22:05.04 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 22:05.05 | NightHawkTheSane | i know |
| 22:05.10 | cog|work | I left a trade school because I didn't want to do IT. Programming is much more interesting to me. Now here i am doing IT |
| 22:05.17 | NeoTron | w/o SD blood aura is likely brtter but it seems silly not to take it now |
| 22:05.24 | NightHawkTheSane | maybe in a raid setting its different, i just felt like it was fairly wasted while leveling |
| 22:05.34 | Lunessa | cog|work: Welcome to my hell. |
| 22:05.46 | NeoTron | leveling is a bit different |
| 22:06.02 | Dashkal | SD was a very significant DPS boost for me. Much of my damage is death coil now. Which in turn made virulence more valuable. But I'll probably use the 51/14/7 once my druid gets to 70 and I can use her to farm and such |
| 22:06.10 | cog|work | Crawling around in the building's attic among fiberglass, dust, sharp things, and the ever popular rat shit wasn't exactly my idea of a wonderful day |
| 22:06.14 | NeoTron | like if i go blood for leveling I'm taking all self healing abiltiies |
| 22:06.16 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah. and ill readily admit my dk never made it to 80 on beta, so i dont relly know how things pan out in the end game |
| 22:06.23 | Dashkal | cog|work: ouch |
| 22:06.36 | NightHawkTheSane | im still debating blood or frost for leveling. blood' |
| 22:06.39 | NeoTron | I did some premade naxx |
| 22:06.43 | NightHawkTheSane | blood's self healing is still really good |
| 22:06.43 | cog|work | But hey... everything worked exactly as expected the first time i hooked it all up... |
| 22:06.44 | Dashkal | NightHawkTheSane: nor do I for endgame. I made it to heroics then 3.0 hit live and I stopped playing beta |
| 22:06.45 | NeoTron | and got my non-premade to 80 but didn't really play |
| 22:06.57 | NeoTron | NightHawkTheSane: I'd say blood is faster but do whatever fits |
| 22:07.03 | Dashkal | ^^ |
| 22:07.12 | NeoTron | I am going blood/unholy (faster riding helps a lot, probably permaghoul) |
| 22:07.33 | Dashkal | Blood seems to be the best in terms of pure speed (zero downtime) but unholy is pretty close so if you prefer that style go for it |
| 22:07.46 | NightHawkTheSane | i could never quite get the hang of unholy |
| 22:08.20 | Dashkal | Frost is arguably the worst for leveling, but even frost isn't bad if you get the rotation down. |
| 22:08.27 | Dashkal | I never did. |
| 22:08.49 | NightHawkTheSane | i went frost at like ~72ish, i really liked it. |
| 22:08.59 | NeoTron | mind you |
| 22:09.08 | NeoTron | the specs all had their periods of insane OP in beta |
| 22:09.10 | NightHawkTheSane | i didn't really feel much slower than blood, honestly. |
| 22:09.14 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 22:09.31 | Dashkal | While blood is the best of the three, it's not ahead by enough that it would warrang choosing it over your preferred playstyle. It's hard to make a mistake with DK leveling, really. |
| 22:09.39 | NeoTron | back when scourge strike and howling blast did 6-7k crits at low 70s |
| 22:09.47 | Dashkal | warrant* |
| 22:09.58 | Dashkal | They did a damn good job with the specs |
| 22:09.59 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: or when icy touch was critting for 3+k? :p |
| 22:10.09 | NeoTron | that was much later :P |
| 22:10.15 | Dashkal | I liked the 7k scourge strikes :p |
| 22:10.18 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, but it was hella fun |
| 22:10.19 | NeoTron | but it was still significantly less OP |
| 22:10.40 | NeoTron | the IT/PS/SS dead or IT/Ps/HB dead method was a bit insane |
| 22:11.14 | Thunder_Child | notice from christel: [Global Notice] Hi all! Terribly sorry for that (fairly substantial) split! Unfortunately one of our sponsors experienced routing issues affecting our secondary US hub, Services and one of our largest MRS servers.. The issues are hopefully fixed for now, but if you have some spare connectivity and hardware, perhaps you should consider helping us not keep all our eggs in one basket! Again, sorry and thanks for |
| 22:11.27 | Thunder_Child | heh, so, who is going to help them out? |
| 22:12.22 | Lunessa | If I had some hardware and bandwidth... |
| 22:12.56 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: I think the statement was not "help us out with bandwidth" |
| 22:12.58 | cog|work | On the brighter side, we now actually have an IT room for me to call my own. Previously our server was sitting on top of a UPS in a nightmarishly dusty/moldy/chemical-y utility closet and various switches were scattered throughout crawlspaces |
| 22:13.05 | Shirik | I think the statement was "get the hell off that server and use some of our other ones!" |
| 22:13.18 | NeoTron | has anyone written a LDB badge tracker yet? (i.e keep track of when party members loot a badge and when you do, so you can see if you missed any at a glance) |
| 22:13.44 | Shirik | also, sorry about Shiibot locking the channel. I kinda reset him after the netsplit |
| 22:13.45 | pompy | NeoTron: BadgeWatch does that |
| 22:13.45 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, it says spares, L2Read |
| 22:13.46 | Shirik | so he didn't remember the netsplit |
| 22:13.48 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: damn, that's a smart idea |
| 22:13.50 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-rRf] by Shirik |
| 22:14.30 | pompy | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/badge-watch.aspx |
| 22:15.07 | Dashkal | NeoTron: Do you remember which naxx boss was the one that was pretty much untankable as a blood DK? |
| 22:15.09 | Shirik | !reload |
| 22:15.10 | Shiibot | AI routines & configuration reloaded |
| 22:15.34 | Syzgyn | pompy: Sounds like a supremely annoying mod |
| 22:15.50 | NeoTron | Dashkal: can't recall which one that would be |
| 22:15.58 | NeoTron | Dashkal: I didn't do even half of the place though |
| 22:16.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Dashkal: o_0 why would anything be untankable as blood? |
| 22:16.06 | Dashkal | Must be thinking of someone else |
| 22:16.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Dashkal: Saph is untankable as frost... |
| 22:16.14 | Dashkal | hrm, there was one with a steady stream of adds and blood couldn't aoe enough |
| 22:16.19 | NeoTron | oh oh right |
| 22:16.22 | NeoTron | gothik |
| 22:16.24 | NeoTron | it was tough |
| 22:16.25 | Dashkal | It was you :p |
| 22:16.41 | NeoTron | yeah the cooldowns didn't make it very blood friendly |
| 22:16.43 | Dashkal | I figure I can prolly get away with it as long as I have an offtank |
| 22:16.58 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm, i guess. |
| 22:17.11 | NeoTron | on the other hand a blood DK on maexxna is OP |
| 22:17.18 | NeoTron | the haste reduction is nice :P |
| 22:17.21 | NeoTron | for the enrage |
| 22:17.34 | Dashkal | As long as _someone_ nearby nabs the adds I miss I figure I should be able to snap them back on my next pestelence/bloodboil |
| 22:17.47 | Legorol | wth? "You must have an existing character of at least level 55 on this realm to create a Death Knight", but I do! |
| 22:17.54 | Dashkal | but that's just pondering until I actually do the fight |
| 22:18.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Legorol: lies |
| 22:18.12 | Syzgyn | Legorol: Means name is taken then. |
| 22:18.28 | NeoTron | Dashkal: it was the first time I did the boss. |
| 22:18.38 | NeoTron | Dashkal: I could have completely ignored the non-elite adds which would have helped |
| 22:19.05 | Dashkal | NeoTron: *nods* I'll keep that in mind when I finally get a chance to tank it then. |
| 22:19.19 | Dashkal | I just want to tank with a rotation resembling the one I'm used to |
| 22:19.29 | Dashkal | Having to go unholy makes the learning curve that much higher |
| 22:19.33 | Legorol | Syzgyn: really? *cry* |
| 22:19.43 | Syzgyn | Legorol: Apparently. |
| 22:19.54 | Legorol | i spent a week coming up with this name, bah |
| 22:20.01 | NeoTron | yeah the different specs are very different |
| 22:20.04 | Dashkal | So glad I reserved my name... |
| 22:20.05 | NeoTron | but i doubt you HAVE to go anything |
| 22:20.13 | NeoTron | just have someone (a dpser0 tank the non-elites if needed |
| 22:20.23 | Dashkal | So far all indicators say that's the case. About the only really bad case is frost vs saph |
| 22:20.28 | NeoTron | a hunter + gorilla or so should be more than perfect :) |
| 22:21.02 | Legorol | Syzgyn: I tried with a random sequence of alphas and it still gives the same error |
| 22:21.13 | Syzgyn | huh, maybe not then |
| 22:21.34 | Syzgyn | or you're very unlucky :P |
| 22:22.34 | cbreak | grumble... swiss government shreddered important evidence in a case of nuclear material smuggling. So now they have to let the suspect go... |
| 22:22.48 | cbreak | rumors are that the suspect has ties with the CIA... |
| 22:23.21 | foxlit | Did you know that the population of elephants has tripled in recent years? |
| 22:23.56 | Syzgyn | foxlit: Three elephants fall out of a plane. Two hit land, one hits water. Ba Dum Psh! |
| 22:24.16 | foxlit | I was expecting something... worthy of a rimshot. |
| 22:24.24 | Syzgyn | Then you missed the joke :P |
| 22:24.42 | NightHawkTheSane | i wish i had.. it may have been funnier |
| 22:24.49 | Syzgyn | haha |
| 22:36.10 | Lunessa | How the hell are you even upgrading your account prior to midnight us? |
| 22:36.10 | Shiibot | New WoW-US Server Alert: November 10, 2008, 12:10PM PST. |
| 22:36.10 | Shiibot | To help ensure the smoothest experience possible for players with the launch of Wrath of the Lich King, we have opened free character moves to a brand new PvE realm, Fizzcrank, for select high population realms to help alleviate population issues. To access this feature and see if your realm is available for transfers, please visit your Account Management page at www.worldofwarcraft.com/account and select the "Free Character Move" link. The realms bel |
| 22:36.11 | Shiibot | Aggramar. Alexstrasza. Arygos. Blackhand |
| 22:36.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: EU? |
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| 22:38.24 | Lunessa | Bah, time zones should always work in MY favor. Not people in some European Country! |
| 22:38.40 | cbreak | feel with the australians. |
| 22:38.49 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* i got used to it when i moved to the west coast |
| 22:39.04 | Syzgyn | East Coast > *} |
| 22:39.09 | Syzgyn | * |
| 22:41.03 | Lunessa | Oh snap. http://www.webmonkey.com/blog/First_Look%3A_Parallels_4_Offers_Mac_Fans_Blazing_Fast_Windows_Virtualization_Tools |
| 22:42.01 | Cidan | yeah |
| 22:42.08 | Cidan | I saw that this morning Lunessa |
| 22:42.10 | NightHawkTheSane | oh snap, indeed |
| 22:42.19 | Cidan | Looks nice |
| 22:42.33 | NightHawkTheSane | that might be worth paying for |
| 22:43.45 | Lunessa | I was using Parallels 3.0 but switch to VMWare's Fusion for the better desktop integration. Now I'm eyeing 4.. |
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| 22:45.32 | cbreak | You actually use the desktop integration? |
| 22:45.49 | cbreak | I banished VMWare to space 6, where it runs in it's window... |
| 22:46.22 | NeoTron | so fusion or parallels, can they run WoW or anything like that? |
| 22:46.31 | Cidan | what does it matter? |
| 22:46.33 | NeoTron | not that it's necessarily "smart", just curious if it works |
| 22:46.41 | Cidan | Yeah, likely |
| 22:46.51 | Cidan | tbh |
| 22:46.55 | NeoTron | traditionally, 3D hasn't worked in virts |
| 22:47.04 | Cidan | if I could run everything I use in linux, I'd wipe windows |
| 22:47.06 | NeoTron | but I'm hardly up to speed |
| 22:47.32 | Lunessa | Cidan: I can run wow in virt, but it's faster native. |
| 22:47.51 | Lunessa | Sorry, NeoTron |
| 22:47.52 | ajmitch | probably faster than running in wine at the moment |
| 22:47.59 | Cidan | likely not |
| 22:48.09 | Cidan | Well, maybe |
| 22:48.21 | NeoTron | Lunessa: well I would hope it's faster nativ |
| 22:48.22 | Cidan | In linux, wine + WoW is faster than Windows + WoW |
| 22:48.25 | Cidan | For me, anyway. |
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| 22:48.30 | NeoTron | or the mac version of WoW (or openGL) sucks :p |
| 22:48.34 | ajmitch | Cidan: not for many people at the moment |
| 22:48.47 | Lunessa | Mostly I use VMWare so I can run legacy applications and so that I can avoid keeping another box on my desk. |
| 22:49.18 | cbreak | NeoTron: VMWare Fusion and Parallels also virtualize some 3D accelleration |
| 22:49.23 | Lunessa | Mac version of WoW is pretty sweet. I think the only thing holding it back is the video system in this IMac. |
| 22:49.29 | cbreak | the new parallels does open gl and direct x |
| 22:49.33 | cbreak | vmware just direct x |
| 22:49.46 | cbreak | but it's slow |
| 22:49.56 | cbreak | nowhere fast enough for current games |
| 22:52.24 | Legorol | Just in case someone encounters the same problem in US tomorrow, I thought I'll mention it here: |
| 22:52.52 | Legorol | If you can't create a DK and you get an error message saying you need a 55+ char, even though you have one, the workaround is to create a random level 1 of any other class, and delete it. |
| 22:52.59 | Legorol | It worked for me and a lot of other forum posters too. |
| 22:54.31 | Lunessa | Headline in my Wired RSS feed: Fisker's On a Roll and Michigan Gets Karma |
| 22:54.41 | Lunessa | I did a double-take. |
| 22:55.13 | cog|work | ~Michigan++ |
| 22:55.19 | cog|work | ~karma Michigan |
| 22:55.19 | purl | michigan has karma of 1 |
| 22:55.33 | Lunessa | http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/11/detroit-now-has.html |
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| 22:56.39 | NeoTron | Legorol: bizarre |
| 22:56.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: lol |
| 22:56.51 | Lyn | haha, there was a loot card in my ce |
| 22:57.06 | NightHawkTheSane | which one? |
| 22:57.32 | Lyn | just the cookie for pets ^^ but anyway, a loot card! xD |
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| 23:03.53 | mikma | moooo! |
| 23:04.02 | mikma | got my game, and my wife got the last CE of the store xD |
| 23:04.30 | Gngsk | congrats mikma |
| 23:04.35 | NightHawkTheSane | die, good sir. :) |
| 23:04.49 | mikma | roflcopter to safety -> |
| 23:06.02 | Lunessa | Literally hot - http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/11/secret-rocket-b.html |
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| 23:10.37 | ScytheBlade1 | http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/NotAlwaysRight/~3/451031884/1351 |
| 23:12.51 | mikma | testes |
| 23:12.57 | Lyn | mikma, gz ;) |
| 23:13.51 | mikma | lyn: gz about testes? |
| 23:13.51 | Lyn | no |
| 23:13.51 | Lyn | about game and ce :p |
| 23:14.00 | mikma | well gz about testes too? |
| 23:15.53 | Lyn | mikma, just because its you, yes gz about testes :P |
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| 23:17.03 | mikma | lyn: yey, thx |
| 23:17.14 | Lyn | so |
| 23:17.18 | Lyn | *updating* |
| 23:17.48 | Lyn | and finally installing ComeHere.. XD |
| 23:18.01 | mikma | lol |
| 23:18.06 | Lyn | :D |
| 23:19.07 | NightHawkTheSane | so that was a fascinating thing. something locked up this machine for a good five minutes |
| 23:19.26 | mikma | (insert nelson laugh) |
| 23:21.10 | WobWork | pft |
| 23:21.18 | WobWork | I'm glad the interwebs is there to edumacate me http://www.conservapedia.com/Barack_Obama |
| 23:21.27 | WobWork | How else would I learn about Obama? |
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| 23:22.07 | mikma | wobwork: C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER! |
| 23:23.12 | WobWork | mikma: http://mightygodking.com/images/combobreaker.jpg |
| 23:23.23 | mikma | booya! |
| 23:23.25 | Lyn | lol |
| 23:27.35 | mikma | i'm having a feeling most of the stories in http://notalwaysright.com are fake |
| 23:27.35 | Shiibot | New WoW-EU Server Alert: There will be rolling restarts of all realms, starting at approximately 04:00, Paris time (CET). Each realm will receive a 15 minute notice prior to being restarted.. . Thank you for your patience and understanding. |
| 23:27.56 | mikma | shirik: poop |
| 23:28.32 | Lunessa | WobWork: Without reading the site, it appears to have a very obvious slant. However, that doesn't mean you won't find some truth mixed in there somewhere. But then, the internet is full of cooks with axes to grind on all sides of an issue. |
| 23:28.47 | WobWork | pst. That was mikma |
| 23:29.00 | WobWork | oh |
| 23:29.02 | mikma | no no, he meant the obama story |
| 23:29.04 | WobWork | Conservapedia? =) |
| 23:29.33 | WobWork | yes, conservapedia is like the most ridiculously slanted site you can be without sliding into parody |
| 23:29.51 | WobWork | even then, noone's sure that it's not some huge joke |
| 23:31.01 | Lunessa | I just remind myself that opinions are alike assholes; everyone has one, and they all stink. |
| 23:31.12 | mikma | oh poop! |
| 23:31.19 | Lunessa | And I try to find fact where I can. |
| 23:31.40 | mikma | how's your poophole then? |
| 23:31.45 | Lunessa | mikma: Borean Tundra and Grizzly hills for you then. |
| 23:31.45 | mikma | stinky like usual? |
| 23:32.02 | mikma | or, EPL :I |
| 23:32.03 | Lunessa | mikma: All poopholes stink. ALL. |
| 23:32.14 | WobWork | There are more dung gathering quests in wotlk? |
| 23:32.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes. =] |
| 23:32.26 | mikma | rofl |
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| 23:32.34 | ScytheBlade1 | One in specific |
| 23:32.45 | Lunessa | At least two. |
| 23:32.55 | mikma | blizz with their poopfetish |
| 23:33.07 | Lunessa | Although one is more about .. production ... than gathering. |
| 23:33.08 | smcn | i dont' remember any poop quests |
| 23:33.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, Lunessa, you know the *one* I speak of. In the Hills. |
| 23:33.14 | smcn | on horde* |
| 23:33.15 | Lunessa | Grizzly Hills. |
| 23:33.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 23:34.04 | Lunessa | ScytheBlade1: That quest made me laugh so hard I think my theoretical off-spring can feel it. |
| 23:34.10 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 23:34.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Mmm, poop quests |
| 23:34.29 | mikma | more poop for you! |
| 23:34.46 | Lunessa | The one in Borean Tundra... not anywhere near as good/funny. |
| 23:35.09 | Dashkal | The GH one was... disturbing. Not the quest itself, but the line said after turning it in |
| 23:36.26 | WobWork | "Om nomnomnom"? |
| 23:36.52 | mikma | hehe |
| 23:36.58 | mikma | you'd like that wobblypooply |
| 23:37.18 | Lunessa | Dashkal: I didn't get anything else done for 15 mins. I was laughing too damned hard. |
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| 23:39.05 | WobWork | http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_msCsZPPP3wo/SRnMVb8IcyI/AAAAAAAAAJ4/h_lDd_-beZY/s400/lolnecropolis.jpg |
| 23:40.23 | mikma | why my firefox wants to download that image |
| 23:40.26 | mikma | is it a virus? |
| 23:40.41 | WobWork | ...no? |
| 23:40.50 | mikma | (i already checked it ;) |
| 23:40.52 | NightHawkTheSane | its a TRAP |
| 23:40.56 | mikma | checked = viewed |
| 23:41.11 | NightHawkTheSane | i "checked" your mom |
| 23:41.20 | WobWork | how's she doing? |
| 23:41.34 | NightHawkTheSane | quite good, though she wishes you'd call more. |
| 23:41.56 | WobWork | yeah |
| 23:42.04 | WobWork | I was going to see her this week, but had to skip |
| 23:42.31 | Anaral | *Smirk* |
| 23:42.33 | Anaral | [18:41:00] (Fazamania) [G] [70:Fazinator]: so is everyone excited for tomorrow |
| 23:42.33 | Anaral | [18:41:16] (Kimbeli) [G] [70:Atombomb]: why whats tomorrow ? |
| 23:42.33 | Anaral | [18:41:18] [G] [70:Vilhelmriker]: I'm excited for tonight! |
| 23:43.03 | mikma | analral: explain |
| 23:43.23 | Anaral | A guy in my guild didn't know what tomorrow is. |
| 23:44.14 | mikma | what's tomorrow? |
| 23:44.19 | mikma | a day after today? |
| 23:44.27 | Anaral | Bah. |
| 23:44.28 | Torhal | Mass server downs, methinks. |
| 23:44.34 | Torhal | That's tomorrow. |
| 23:44.34 | Anaral | ~smack mikma |
| 23:44.35 | purl | ACTION smacks mikma upside the head. |
| 23:44.35 | Torhal | :D |
| 23:44.36 | NightHawkTheSane | with luck :D |
| 23:44.49 | NightHawkTheSane | tomorrow is thursday, by the way |
| 23:44.51 | mikma | what the heck are you two talking about |
| 23:44.57 | foxlit | tomorrow is today |
| 23:45.23 | Thunder_Child | http://www.onlinepc.com.au/movies/Technology.wvx |
| 23:45.26 | Lunessa | Here at YoYoDyne The Future Begins Tomorrow! |
| 23:45.46 | Thunder_Child | i do wonder when that was made since there is one fact that is already outdated |
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| 23:45.53 | foxlit | Lunessa: We've got you beat here at FutureLabs: the future begins next month. |
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| 23:46.54 | WobWork | tomorrow is friday |
| 23:46.58 | WobWork | geez. keep up will you? |
| 23:47.02 | ajmitch | agreed |
| 23:47.13 | NightHawkTheSane | im working on it, but this damn rock only goes so fast |
| 23:47.22 | WobWork | You'll never be a contender if you're always behind like that |
| 23:47.32 | mikma | what's the song in that? "Right here, Right now", can't remember the artist |
| 23:47.32 | ajmitch | says you back in the past |
| 23:47.49 | Thunder_Child | fat boy slim |
| 23:47.52 | foxlit | we must erase the past to go back to the future? |
| 23:47.54 | foxlit | or something. |
| 23:47.55 | Thunder_Child | some song of thiers |
| 23:47.58 | mikma | ah, fbs :) |
| 23:48.00 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: it's amazing how you can be 12 hours in the future, and always be a second behind us ;) |
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| 23:48.36 | WobWork | It's a talent |
| 23:48.40 | Thunder_Child | the amusing part is that it says by 2013 we will have a computer that thinks faster than a human, well we beat that this year |
| 23:48.57 | WobWork | Are we talking about an average human? |
| 23:49.05 | foxlit | someone defined the speed of thought while I wasn't looking? |
| 23:49.05 | Cidan | Thunder_Child: I highly doubt that |
| 23:49.14 | foxlit | How many meters per second? |
| 23:49.15 | Cidan | foxlit: Right. |
| 23:49.58 | WobWork | I hear they're measuring speed of thought by how quickly one can come up with a 'Ya Mom' quip |
| 23:50.11 | foxlit | "computational capatibilities" |
| 23:50.41 | Cidan | 5 hours to go! |
| 23:50.51 | Thunder_Child | Cidan, the RoadRunner puter does at 1.7 petaflops |
| 23:50.52 | foxlit | That's a nice we-don't-know-what-we-mean-either way to put it |
| 23:50.54 | Torhal | WobWork: You sure it's not a "That's what she said." response? |
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| 23:51.08 | WobWork | Torhal: That quip doesn't require thinking =P |
| 23:51.12 | Torhal | Haha |
| 23:51.21 | WobWork | That's what -she- said! |
| 23:51.46 | foxlit | "The opinions expressed here are solely those of Ron Paul" |
| 23:51.54 | foxlit | That so needs to be in a comic. |
| 23:51.55 | Cidan | Thunder_Child: There is no way to scale that to the human mind, we can't just point and look at a brain and say, "Well, it can handle 1.3 petaflops of information." |
| 23:51.58 | WobWork | wasn't he a pornstar? |
| 23:52.15 | Thunder_Child | Cidan, someone did, now i just have to find it again |
| 23:52.22 | Lunessa | WobWork: Ron Jeremy not Ron Paul. |
| 23:52.25 | Cidan | Whoever did is guessing, I promise |
| 23:52.40 | WobWork | Lunessa: oh, all you wacky americans and your confusing double barreled names |
| 23:52.58 | foxlit | Hm, here's a fun metric |
| 23:53.00 | WobWork | ALIAL? |
| 23:53.09 | Lunessa | WobWork: Hey, at least we don't put family names first, like those confusing asians. |
| 23:53.19 | foxlit | It'll be accomplished when a supercomputer can simulate a human brain physically in what amounts to faster than real time |
| 23:53.19 | mikma | wobwork: hi, i need a name for gnome female :) |
| 23:53.27 | WobWork | mikma: class? |
| 23:53.32 | mikma | wobwork: shall i name it "Wobbly" |
| 23:53.35 | mikma | wobwork: guess ^^ |
| 23:53.46 | foxlit | cuddles! |
| 23:53.49 | WobWork | dk? |
| 23:53.53 | mikma | correct |
| 23:54.04 | WobWork | Schmuckles |
| 23:54.04 | mikma | cuddles taken :I |
| 23:54.14 | mikma | wobwork: too hard to type correctly :D |
| 23:54.27 | WobWork | That was the name of my Witch, when I played on a DW mud |
| 23:54.28 | foxlit | just get used to using the word schmuck |
| 23:54.47 | mikma | hehe... i got a name "iu" |
| 23:54.53 | foxlit | too short |
| 23:54.55 | foxlit | iuu? |
| 23:55.04 | WobWork | Ew? |
| 23:55.16 | mikma | and "oe" |
| 23:55.25 | WobWork | ilililililil |
| 23:55.36 | mikma | that is a subject to be named again :D |
| 23:55.45 | mikma | ass as sin |
| 23:56.08 | mikma | i'll just whack random crap into google again :D |
| 23:56.12 | foxlit | But yeah, annoying |
| 23:56.13 | WobWork | EvilDonkey |
| 23:56.27 | foxlit | Half the literature references I can think of are taken by some inactive level 1 alts |
| 23:56.30 | foxlit | (annoying!) |
| 23:56.36 | WobWork | yeah terrible =( |
| 23:56.41 | WobWork | damn those placeholders |
| 23:56.47 | Industrial | I HAS A WOTLK |
| 23:56.48 | Industrial | I HAS A WOTLK |
| 23:56.48 | mikma | even this nick is taken in that server, which is odd |
| 23:56.59 | WobWork | (But you ated it?) |
| 23:57.08 | mikma | om nom nom |
| 23:57.09 | Industrial | nay, i upgraded my account with it |
| 23:57.17 | WobWork | Industrial: Now you can upgrade |
| 23:57.25 | WobWork | and then wait for the next three days before you can log in |
| 23:57.53 | Industrial | how so WobWork |
| 23:57.58 | WobWork | mikma: Shandy |
| 23:58.06 | WobWork | Carbomb |
| 23:58.16 | WobWork | Caprioska |
| 23:58.33 | WobWork | Toblerone |
| 23:59.44 | Thunder_Child | isnt the last one that disgusting chocolate crap? |
| 23:59.56 | WobWork | It's also a cocktail |
