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| 00:04.44 | Dewin | Is wow map viewer/model viewer 'acceptable' conversation for this channel? wowwiki seems to have no qualms about mentioning their existence at least. |
| 00:05.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Viewer is fine |
| 00:05.46 | Kaso | Why would there be any issue, you're just viewing datafiles available in your wow directory |
| 00:06.02 | ScytheBlade1 | The actual wikipedia says that one of lua's uses is customizing private wow servers, so.. ;) |
| 00:06.29 | Dewin | Well in that case, has anybody found a working map viewer for patch 3.x? :) |
| 00:06.42 | ScytheBlade1 | A few people here wrote their own, actually |
| 00:06.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Who I can't remember |
| 00:07.39 | Dewin | I vaguely recall something about the fact that a) there used to be source available, and b) something changed in the m2 files which broke it, but could be fixed in the source |
| 00:07.46 | pompy | Is !SurfaceControl worth having installed as an addon? |
| 00:07.47 | Dewin | And now that I'm actually looking for it, I can't find even a trace of it |
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| 00:25.12 | Shirik | Does d^_^b look like someone wearing headphones? |
| 00:25.19 | Shirik | or do I need to add something? |
| 00:25.35 | NightHawkTheSane | it looks like someone with large ears |
| 00:25.50 | Shirik | That'll work |
| 00:25.55 | Shaboo | how do I do an if with mutiple conditions is it "if (a == b) && ( b!= c)" |
| 00:26.04 | Shirik | Shaboo: and |
| 00:26.07 | NightHawkTheSane | by reading the pil |
| 00:26.21 | NightHawkTheSane | or possibly google |
| 00:26.46 | Wobin | Shirik: or someone giving two thumbs up! |
| 00:27.02 | Shaboo | k thx |
| 00:29.03 | Shaboo | what's the pil ? |
| 00:29.08 | Wobin | ~pil |
| 00:29.08 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 00:29.17 | Shaboo | ah cool |
| 00:29.53 | Wobin | Shirik: Я^_^R |
| 00:30.02 | Shirik | That's not valid C++ code |
| 00:30.12 | Shirik | the objective is to make it C++ |
| 00:30.14 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: you're going to hell. |
| 00:30.22 | Shirik | d^_^b is valid C++ code |
| 00:30.34 | Dewin | Я isn't a valid identifier? |
| 00:30.39 | Shirik | I don't believe so |
| 00:31.05 | NightHawkTheSane | most languages aren't fond of high ascii or such, i think |
| 00:31.40 | Dewin | hmm |
| 00:32.16 | Dewin | It gets mangled when I try to take it out of the chat window into a text editor so I can't test |
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| 00:39.12 | Dewin | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174599212&sid=1&pageNo=1 If you want some ancient history for laughs. |
| 00:39.16 | Cide | Antiarc: ping |
| 00:39.24 | NightHawkTheSane | :o wizkids just.. shut down |
| 00:39.29 | Antiarc | Cide: Pong |
| 00:39.57 | Shaboo | so is ~= "NOT" |
| 00:40.08 | NightHawkTheSane | well, "not equal" |
| 00:40.16 | Shaboo | ah ok |
| 00:41.03 | Syzgyn | Dewin: rofl |
| 00:42.20 | End | wow, that was fucked up |
| 00:42.29 | End | finally got my new phone working |
| 00:42.41 | End | when it finally works, it just...works |
| 00:42.51 | End | I have no fucking idea what I did to make it work though |
| 00:43.16 | Dewin | I hate that. |
| 00:43.32 | Lopeppeppy | Damn circuits. |
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| 00:43.58 | NightHawkTheSane | End: .. possibly by turning it on? :D |
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| 00:47.58 | End | NightHawkTheSane: no |
| 00:48.14 | End | turning it off might have helped (well, technically I did a full reset as well) |
| 00:48.27 | End | it took the second reset + a sim card replacement to do it though I guess |
| 00:48.45 | End | yeah I had a lot of fun with customer service |
| 00:49.12 | Dewin | End: It didn't believe you on the first reset, but on the second reset it realized you meant srs bzns? |
| 00:49.33 | End | maybe |
| 00:49.35 | End | I dunno |
| 00:51.02 | Wobin | Sadness is someone buying a 400d and using the 'sport' mode |
| 00:51.06 | Lunessa | Haha... Outland came before Northrend, and reading that thread now it epic lulz. |
| 00:51.37 | Wobin | I mean, Oy, if you're going to spend so much money on a digital slr, for gods sake, learn how to use one |
| 00:52.11 | Lunessa | How much does such a camera cost? (not a photography buff anymore). |
| 00:56.37 | Wobin | I think he paid about 1,300AUD |
| 00:56.58 | NightHawkTheSane | oh man that thread is win.. "Northrend sounds terribly boring" |
| 00:57.02 | Wobin | granted, this man has money to burn |
| 00:57.18 | Wobin | he took a trip to Hawai'i just last week |
| 00:57.27 | Codayus | Lunessa: US$900 list price with a lens, $800 without. They're cheaper now. Like...hmm, US$650 with lens. |
| 00:58.32 | Lunessa | For a camera, that's... cheap. |
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| 00:59.09 | Wobin | It's the low end of the digital slrs |
| 00:59.23 | Wobin | relatively speaking |
| 01:01.34 | Lopeppeppy | I got a point and click middle grade for $200ish. There are cheaper out there, but pixel quality varies, as does durability. |
| 01:01.41 | Codayus | *shrug* Depends on your standards. It's entry level as DSLRs go, I'd say. Nikon D2X is...hmm, over US$4k without lens. But if you want a point-n-shoot camera for holiday snaps, you could do abut as well for a LOT less... |
| 01:01.57 | Wobin | s'true |
| 01:02.10 | Wobin | you needn't bother with a slr if you just want happysnaps |
| 01:02.32 | Wobin | You can get decent enough shots with a normal digital camera |
| 01:02.55 | Codayus | Then again, it depends on what you want. I've not used Canon's range, but if it's like the Nikon it's good for shooting several pictures very fast. Cheap cameras normally have small buffers and slow write speeds... |
| 01:02.55 | Wobin | the slrs are all about their flexibility |
| 01:04.45 | kd3 | whee... 1168 spell power unbuffed 2 days before I outlevel all of my gear |
| 01:05.23 | cbreak | most gear will be fine until 77 or so I bet |
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| 01:06.14 | Codayus | I'm kind of depressed by the expansion. On the one hand, I find achievements incredibly addicting, so I just want to play my main. But DKs sound like fun too... :-( |
| 01:06.44 | Wobin | well |
| 01:06.48 | Wobin | I don't care about achievements |
| 01:07.06 | Wobin | and I've kinda lost hope about my mains |
| 01:07.17 | Wobin | I haven't played my rogue in ages, and everything has changed since he was around =P |
| 01:07.38 | Wobin | I don't think there's too much new to learn about my hunter |
| 01:07.58 | Codayus | *nod* Similar deal. My main is a priest, and that's been changed/buffed/stuck into a blender fairly heavily. |
| 01:08.12 | Wobin | pft, I don't want to think about my priest =\ |
| 01:08.21 | Wobin | Mage is meh |
| 01:08.24 | Codayus | I mean, if your into PvE, which I am, they basically just added a new tree - we now have three instead of the two we've had for years. |
| 01:08.29 | Wobin | Druid, is a boomkin |
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| 01:08.46 | Wobin | Codayus: whut disc is now viable? |
| 01:09.17 | Wobin | I don't recognise the priest trees anymore =( |
| 01:09.34 | Codayus | Wobin: Sure. |
| 01:11.09 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/funny-pictures-cat-eyes-bosom.jpg <- lolcats, nsfw by nature |
| 01:11.37 | Lunessa | I'm actually still excited. I know that WotLK is not a gear-reset like TBC was, and that I can and do level nicely playing as a shaman. I also have my priest, warlock and mage, and a second shaman, a druid and I want to play DK and maybe add a paladin, rogue and hunter to my stable of characters. Figuring out what I want first is going to be thae worst bit. |
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| 01:11.46 | Wobin | mikma: rofl |
| 01:11.54 | Codayus | Wobin: I'm actually pretty happy with all the priest trees... |
| 01:12.03 | mikma | wobin: <0304> <mikma> http://apina.nwpshost.com/10584.jpg nsf shirik |
| 01:12.09 | mikma | you might like that one too |
| 01:12.17 | mikma | i giggled like a schoolgirl |
| 01:12.27 | Wobin | mikma: that's... inventive |
| 01:12.59 | Wobin | the table of dildos must have required a mind so twisted to even conceive of it... |
| 01:14.32 | Wobin | Codayus: hm, yeah |
| 01:14.36 | Lunessa | some people work really hard for the funny. |
| 01:14.39 | Wobin | Codayus: Doesn't answer the question I have though... |
| 01:14.50 | Wobin | Codayus: what the hell do I spec as for Wotlk? =P |
| 01:14.53 | Lunessa | And right now, I'd work really hard for a cheeseburger. |
| 01:14.58 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: whatever you want? :P |
| 01:15.10 | Lunessa | Wobin: What do you want to /do/. |
| 01:15.17 | Wobin | That's just it |
| 01:15.19 | Wobin | I don't know =\ |
| 01:15.30 | Wobin | I'm not champing at the bit to play the expansion |
| 01:15.33 | Lunessa | So, roll a DK and PWN some faces. |
| 01:15.40 | Wobin | I might do that |
| 01:15.44 | Wobin | just for a change |
| 01:15.51 | Lunessa | They're hellaciously fun. |
| 01:15.56 | Wobin | I'll need a good name |
| 01:16.02 | mikma | wobin: i just noticed that the buttcheeks are red in the legoporno |
| 01:16.08 | Wobin | mikma: hehe yeah |
| 01:16.20 | Lunessa | Well, she does have that whip going. |
| 01:16.33 | Wobin | are dk faction neutral, or end up the faction the race is |
| 01:17.48 | Wobin | how would you describe each of the DK trees, if you were to equate them to another class? |
| 01:18.17 | Codayus | Wobin: I'm...not sure. I like healing, and the disc playstyle looks fuun. Penance is nice. Then again, they buffed shadow in some amazing ways...so...ahh.... |
| 01:18.23 | NightHawkTheSane | they're all reasonably unique, i think |
| 01:18.44 | NightHawkTheSane | they're similar to each other, and vaguely similar to a rogue/warrior/ret pally play style |
| 01:18.53 | Codayus | Wobin: DK trees - you get your choice of dps/tanking, dps/tanking, and dps/tanking. |
| 01:18.54 | End | Wobin: they take the faction of their race |
| 01:19.11 | End | you won't even see anyone of the other faction until you exit the starting areas iirc |
| 01:19.13 | Wobin | Codayus: man, how can you choose?! =) |
| 01:19.31 | NeoTron | I'd explain them in a different way |
| 01:19.50 | Wobin | hehe, Summon Gargoyle sounds like you've summoning a giant ugly pigeon |
| 01:19.51 | NeoTron | with their focus: physical/healing, magic/frost/DW, magic/AoE |
| 01:20.04 | NeoTron | magic/aoe/pet even |
| 01:20.16 | Wobin | DW - Dual wield? |
| 01:20.20 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 01:20.25 | NeoTron | blood is more physical damage, worst AoE, best healing |
| 01:20.30 | Codayus | Unholy does have the best AoE, and does the highest magic damage. Blood is physical damage focused. DW...you'd probably go with a tri-spec. |
| 01:20.51 | NeoTron | frost has somewhat better AoE, more magical damage and the best treee for dual wielding (obviously not required though, just good talent synergy) |
| 01:21.13 | NeoTron | while unholy has the best AoE, permanent pet and the largest chunk of damage coming from magical sources |
| 01:21.29 | Codayus | Most people seem to be leaning frost-ish for tanking... But all three trees are good for tanking really. |
| 01:21.29 | NeoTron | DW would be a frost heavy tri-spec |
| 01:21.59 | NeoTron | Codayus: strongly disagree there |
| 01:22.24 | NeoTron | I could agree with "most people that don't know better, think frost is the tank tree" |
| 01:22.28 | Codayus | Heh |
| 01:23.07 | NightHawkTheSane | all three trees are pretty solid for tanking. I think blood only has a slight disadvantage due to a lack of comparable aoe, but meh, death and decay is probably good enough |
| 01:23.33 | Wobin | frost appears to work through maintaining some level of CC in an aoe |
| 01:23.34 | abyx | are there any websites that have advanced information on addon creation? like xml/frame creation specifically |
| 01:23.37 | NeoTron | D&D/Pestilence/BB are pretty decent but it's no 51+ unholy level of threa |
| 01:23.52 | NeoTron | Wobin: not really |
| 01:24.02 | NeoTron | but desecration is some level of CC |
| 01:24.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: there's surprisingly little actual CC in the frost tree |
| 01:24.08 | NeoTron | in unholy |
| 01:27.20 | Wobin | how does the runic power mechanic work? |
| 01:28.05 | NightHawkTheSane | abilities that use runes (and some talents) give you RP, you spend that RP on other abilities. |
| 01:28.07 | Codayus | Wobin: A little like rage. Abilities that use runes generate RP; a small number of abilities are RP sinks. |
| 01:29.00 | Codayus | Wobin: If your curious, this is DPS focused but has some very good info on DKs in general: |
| 01:29.06 | Codayus | http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t36303-death_knight_dps_compendium/ |
| 01:30.10 | Wobin | thank you =) |
| 01:30.15 | Lunessa | ~wowprogramming |
| 01:30.16 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons (http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob) a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
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| 01:44.49 | Arrowmaster | ScytheBlade1: so you should dl http://www.mininova.org/tor/1997508 on your server so we can leach it from you faster |
| 01:45.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Or you could torrent it |
| 01:45.24 | ScytheBlade1 | I like that option |
| 01:45.31 | Arrowmaster | i will be |
| 01:45.35 | Lunessa | What, no warez? |
| 01:45.36 | Corrodias | is blizz planning to sell keys to that game outside retail boxes yet? |
| 01:45.45 | ScytheBlade1 | No |
| 01:45.52 | Syzgyn | Neg |
| 01:45.59 | Corrodias | does bliz just hate us? |
| 01:46.04 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 01:46.06 | Wobin | yes |
| 01:46.17 | NightHawkTheSane | well, not so much us, as you personally |
| 01:46.18 | ScytheBlade1 | They have a good relation with physical stores. They'd like to keep that relation. |
| 01:46.21 | Corrodias | apparently |
| 01:46.30 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: by they, you mean vivendi, but meh |
| 01:46.35 | NeoTron | Codayus: they are planning to do it... as soon as it's no longer the hottest game on the retail shelves |
| 01:46.37 | kd3 | hm... 7.7 gigs. don't think I'll have that download done in 52ish hours |
| 01:46.54 | Corrodias | phht, they have a good relationship because the games sell well and have no vaguely sexual content |
| 01:47.09 | NightHawkTheSane | frankly, im sure blizzard them selves doesn't care WHERE their game is sold |
| 01:47.13 | ScytheBlade1 | And if they cut them out said relationship would dissapear |
| 01:47.24 | Shadowed | Arrowmaster: It's capped, chances are you won't get it done until Wednesday, if at that |
| 01:47.30 | Shadowed | haven't gotten more than 40-50 KB/s from it |
| 01:47.33 | Corrodias | "cut them out"? who said anything about cutting them out? |
| 01:47.51 | Corrodias | most, if not all, big titles available via DD are also available via box |
| 01:47.51 | NeoTron | Corrodias: if it's avaialble online, a large chunk of people wouldn't get it from an actual store |
| 01:47.57 | ScytheBlade1 | If they let you buy the keys online, boxed copies would go poof almost instanty |
| 01:48.03 | ScytheBlade1 | (At launch) |
| 01:48.13 | NeoTron | it's evil collusion at its best |
| 01:48.17 | Corrodias | i only wish |
| 01:48.21 | Shadowed | just get friends |
| 01:48.25 | Shadowed | who you can bribe to buy you a copy |
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| 01:48.45 | NeoTron | wonder at what time the server content is unlocked for LK |
| 01:48.58 | Shadowed | 12 EST for US is what I heard |
| 01:48.59 | Corrodias | so let me ask you this: do you think this relationship with box stores ("you inconvenience your customers and we'll milk them with increased production costs, win win!") is a good thing? |
| 01:49.22 | NeoTron | Corrodias: for the stores it is. I hate the fact that it is that way |
| 01:49.39 | NeoTron | Corrodias: but what's eevn worse was that to get another copy of WoW I couldn't do it from blizzard |
| 01:49.41 | Corrodias | well yes, i meant more for the other side, blizz/activition/vivendi |
| 01:49.42 | ScytheBlade1 | PS |
| 01:49.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Org is being razed atm |
| 01:49.49 | End | wee irc on my.phone |
| 01:49.58 | kd3 | holy hell it's finally starting |
| 01:49.58 | NeoTron | it cost me $30 to get a battle chest (with two retarded guides) and would ahve cost like $55 to do it online from blizzard |
| 01:49.59 | End | connectbot ftw |
| 01:50.13 | NeoTron | THAT irked me to no end |
| 01:50.16 | Wobin | razed? |
| 01:50.22 | End | plus irssi and screen of course |
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| 01:51.05 | Corrodias | i don't see how they'd suffer too much if the retail stores lost some business on them. you think wal-mart would refuse to carry diablo 3 if it were also available online? |
| 01:51.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes, razed |
| 01:51.42 | NeoTron | ScytheBlade1: EU too? |
| 01:52.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Dunno, not on EU |
| 01:53.26 | NeoTron | if I miss the whole event due to work I'll be pissed :P |
| 01:53.41 | Corrodias | i don't think any such outlet would throw away money like that just to empower a hissy fit |
| 01:54.37 | Corrodias | they might refuse to carry the publisher's other, lower-budget games, but... to be honest, i've bought five small games on Steam that i never would have so much as glanced at in a box store |
| 01:55.10 | Corrodias | i don't know how similar that is to the general public's experiences, though |
| 01:59.31 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: define.. razed? >.> |
| 01:59.48 | Kirov | ~define razed |
| 01:59.48 | purl | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 01:59.54 | Kirov | ~dict razed |
| 02:00.08 | NightHawkTheSane | i know what razed MEANS. |
| 02:00.13 | NightHawkTheSane | i want to know what ScytheBlade1 means. |
| 02:00.37 | NightHawkTheSane | because i'm seeing a very distinct lack of razing in org, right now :p |
| 02:01.09 | End | re: walmart having a hissy fit...not with any Blizzard's games, that's for sure! |
| 02:02.03 | Lunessa | Am I missing an event by being at work? f-beans! |
| 02:02.20 | kd3 | presumably it'll last until release |
| 02:02.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: *shrug* im not seeing any event |
| 02:02.49 | End | I've seen aboms and frostwyrms |
| 02:03.07 | Kirov | the semi-shitty thing is Wal-Mart sells more games than any other single distribution method, for some games more that 50% of the sales are from Wal-Mart |
| 02:05.25 | pompy | is auf_CC being managed lately? |
| 02:06.04 | Corrodias | i'd like to see some good statistics for big-name game titles available both via box and via at least one form of DD |
| 02:06.10 | Lunessa | No major game publisher wants to eliminate retail stores from their array of distribution tools. Especially when retail stores are the predominant means by which US consumers purchase goods of all sorts. |
| 02:06.15 | Corrodias | ocer time |
| 02:06.44 | Corrodias | *over time. and besides, i never suggested eliminating boxes. :| the box stores wouldn't dare throw away gauranteed profits from selling a Blizzard game |
| 02:07.00 | Lunessa | Despite all the online shopping options, mommy is more likely to buy Jr. GameX if it's in a store with a box. |
| 02:07.27 | Corrodias | my only concern was for the publisher's lower-budget titles that they might have the balls to omit from their shelves as "revenge" |
| 02:07.45 | Lunessa | That said, I don't know that Blizzard will sell just X-Pac keys in their online store until after the Christmas Holiday. |
| 02:08.27 | Lunessa | And me, personally - I like buying the boxed discs at a store. Call me a Luddite. |
| 02:08.34 | End | Luddite |
| 02:08.45 | abyx | is there a menu or something that goes with the addon "EditingUI" thats linked from wowprogramming.com? |
| 02:08.50 | Lunessa | OMG. I used a computer. |
| 02:09.49 | Lunessa | abyx: That's a blizzard released item. The instructions are on http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ - all 2 lines of them. |
| 02:10.19 | kd3 | hm... |
| 02:10.21 | abyx | so uh |
| 02:10.23 | abyx | how do i use it? |
| 02:10.32 | kd3 | unzip it and look through the code? |
| 02:10.40 | NightHawkTheSane | what are the two companion type strings? MOUNT and.. ? |
| 02:10.42 | kd3 | install it like a regular mod? |
| 02:10.47 | abyx | i have it "installed" |
| 02:10.51 | Lunessa | CRITTER |
| 02:10.57 | NightHawkTheSane | ah yes, thank you |
| 02:11.04 | abyx | theres no slash commands registered in the addon either |
| 02:11.17 | abyx | looks like a bunch of functions related to editing frames but thats it |
| 02:12.55 | Lunessa | It has keybinds. |
| 02:13.23 | Lunessa | Check your keybindings menu and assign them. :) |
| 02:16.37 | abyx | hmm |
| 02:17.17 | End | nooo, my opie key binds reset :( |
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| 02:17.44 | Lunessa | End: I blame Foxlit. |
| 02:19.14 | abyx | is www.wowprogramming.com down? D: |
| 02:19.38 | Lunessa | Slow going here. |
| 02:20.39 | kd3 | the hell? I just *fished* up Formula: Enchant Shield - Lesser Protection |
| 02:21.07 | Lopeppeppy | Occasionally you get good stuff from fishing.... |
| 02:24.01 | Antiarc | http://i34.tinypic.com/9ur908.jpg |
| 02:24.37 | Lunessa | that's a big... whatever the fuck that is. |
| 02:25.32 | End | Lunessa: hehehehe |
| 02:25.40 | End | I blame him too 8-) |
| 02:34.48 | abyx | i want to make wow addons but the one thing holding me back is XML/frames :| |
| 02:35.06 | Wobin | so don't use them =) programmatic frames ftw |
| 02:47.03 | abyx | are there any tutorials on programmatic frames? i know theres an api but that doesn't help much more once i get past CreateFrame(...) |
| 02:48.51 | Lunessa | this is very old.... but still not unuseful: http://home.blarg.net/~tyroney/wow/uitutorial/ |
| 02:53.06 | abyx | is there an api command to start the newly implemented stopwatch feature in wow? |
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| 02:56.14 | alestane | I don't think it's inherent API, but there's a UI function IIRC. |
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| 03:03.51 | Lunessa | It's on WoWWiki. |
| 03:04.21 | Tekkub | *ponder* I wonder if I could add chat links to spew's table output, so that you can quickly dig deeper into a table... |
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| 03:12.37 | NightHawkTheSane | >.> do i want to go prot or ret for leveling? |
| 03:12.45 | NightHawkTheSane | (70-80, i mean) |
| 03:15.38 | abyx | is it possible to destroy a frame? i'm looking and there doesn't seem to be something like DestroyFrame() |
| 03:16.57 | mikma | well.... |
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| 03:17.10 | mikma | thr best way to do that is /console reloadui |
| 03:17.51 | abyx | well i mean i can CreateFrames() all day but theres no way to destroy them? |
| 03:18.42 | mikma | no. |
| 03:18.46 | abyx | i suppose there shouldn't be a need for destroy frame if you only create frames onload and show/hide them instead of creating new ones everytime you need to show it... |
| 03:20.00 | mikma | would be foolish to create a new frame everytime someghing needs to be shown |
| 03:20.09 | Lunessa | correct. Don't create extra frames. Just makes the one you need and use show/hide. Otherwise you're going to clutter up memory. |
| 03:20.24 | NightHawkTheSane | thinking about what you write is a fascinating concept. :P |
| 03:21.00 | Lunessa | No, I'm not thinking at all. Can't make me. I don't want to. |
| 03:21.25 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, well.. |
| 03:22.41 | abyx | i'm thinking more from a c++ game programming side so i was thinking of rendering all the menu items needed as creating a new frame rather than showing a pre-created frame |
| 03:23.20 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm. |
| 03:24.55 | NightHawkTheSane | ~seen Xinhuan |
| 03:24.56 | purl | xinhuan <i=xinhuan@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/xinhuan> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 5h 15m 51s ago, saying: 'of course, i never did'. |
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| 03:29.12 | AnduinLothar | wheee, 15min queue |
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| 03:44.11 | Lunessa | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=25730.0 |
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| 04:05.15 | Wobin | looks kinda cool |
| 04:05.47 | abyx | why does blizzard use their own image format T_T? |
| 04:05.55 | Wobin | cause they can |
| 04:06.34 | abyx | is there an easy way to view all the .blp files that the blizzard interface addonkit creates? |
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| 04:07.55 | NightHawkTheSane | uh, any sane image reader should probably do it |
| 04:08.58 | NightHawkTheSane | but i just use the finder, in osx. *shrug* |
| 04:09.29 | Wobin | woah |
| 04:09.32 | Wobin | http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/081110/earns_starbucks.html?.v=6 |
| 04:10.08 | Wobin | 97% >< |
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| 04:25.06 | kd3 | rofl |
| 04:25.17 | kd3 | "Highlord Bolvar Fordragon's medallion shatters." yay for leaving that in even after prestor's been vanquished |
| 04:33.37 | Shaone | Anyone have any idea how Cartographer calculates yards based on the map coordinates? I've got a distance between two points based on the continent map you're on, but each continent has a different value for yards. |
| 04:33.50 | Iriel | careful calibration |
| 04:33.53 | Shaone | Are there any libraries or anything that already have the conversions mapped out? |
| 04:34.04 | Iriel | I think Astrolabe is the library you're after |
| 04:34.31 | Iriel | http://wiki.esamynn.org/Astrolabe |
| 04:34.45 | Shaone | Thank you |
| 04:34.49 | |Jelly| | Are there any tutorials that map out of to make animations in WoW via the use of (assuming) http://www.wowwiki.com/SetTexCoord_Transformations ? |
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| 04:42.27 | Shaone | -- Kalimdor { -- [1] parentContinent = 0, height = 24533.025279205, width = 36800.210572494, |
| 04:42.30 | Shaone | Woohoo |
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| 04:50.03 | smcn | did female taunka get a new model before beta ended? |
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| 04:57.14 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: pign |
| 04:57.17 | Shirik | ping too |
| 04:58.13 | ScytheBlade1 | ~stab Shirik |
| 04:58.14 | purl | ACTION runs at Shirik with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 04:59.38 | Shirik | what was that DNS program again? |
| 05:01.15 | ScytheBlade1 | ISC BIND |
| 05:01.16 | ScytheBlade1 | aka named |
| 05:04.05 | Shirik | where is this on portage? |
| 05:04.06 | Shirik | I can't find it :( |
| 05:04.17 | Iriel | try looking for bind |
| 05:04.20 | Iriel | or or bind9 |
| 05:04.49 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.gentoo-portage.com/net-dns/bind |
| 05:04.54 | Shirik | that's it? |
| 05:04.56 | Shirik | what's ISC? |
| 05:05.01 | ScytheBlade1 | The company |
| 05:07.43 | Shirik | hm, ok |
| 05:07.51 | Shirik | it doesn't say ISC in the build :/ |
| 05:07.53 | Shirik | but thanks |
| 05:10.25 | Iriel | There is only one 'bind' |
| 05:10.32 | Shirik | oh |
| 05:10.37 | Iriel | it's not like there's Microsoft bind, and apple bind, and IBM bind |
| 05:10.39 | Shirik | then that must be them :P |
| 05:10.49 | Iriel | ISC (Internet Systems Consortium) just happens to be who created it |
| 05:10.54 | Shirik | I never had to do any DNS stuff before |
| 05:11.08 | Shirik | I'm perfectly content with my li23-154.members.linode.com name |
| 05:11.13 | Shirik | but my guild is being all whiney |
| 05:11.46 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 you can water walk while mounted now? |
| 05:16.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: you're in for a long, exciting ride |
| 05:16.44 | Shirik | ... |
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| 05:17.59 | Shirik | whose idea was it to make the WoW account management page lock you out after 2 failed attempts? |
| 05:18.04 | Shirik | I need to stab someone |
| 05:18.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Two attempts isn't much, it's probably a very short lockout |
| 05:22.41 | Torhal | Shirik: You didn't know that most account hacks aren't through keyloggers at all, but through "third-time's-a'charm" brute-force methods? |
| 05:22.49 | Torhal | :D |
| 05:22.55 | Shirik | Hm |
| 05:22.57 | Shirik | Let's see |
| 05:23.04 | Shirik | Assuming I use only lowercase, uppercase, and alphanumerics |
| 05:23.27 | Shirik | AND assuming you know my account name, which no it is not my character name |
| 05:23.42 | Shirik | AND assuming it's 8 characters long |
| 05:23.51 | Shirik | lua> 1/((26+26+10)^8 + 10^6) |
| 05:23.52 | lua_bot | Shirik: 4.5800105882571e-15 |
| 05:24.00 | Shirik | Good luck with those chances |
| 05:29.07 | Shirik | lua> string.byte('a') |
| 05:29.08 | lua_bot | Shirik: 97 |
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| 05:49.12 | Syzgyn | Woooo Kil'Jaeden down |
| 05:49.18 | Syzgyn | And server first alliance side bow |
| 05:52.20 | kd3 | wow, the alliance-side event is failtastic |
| 05:52.50 | NeoTron | some undead in the harbror? |
| 05:52.56 | kd3 | ya |
| 05:53.10 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Scourge_Invasion#Capital_city_invasions |
| 05:53.14 | kd3 | compare the two capitals |
| 05:53.43 | Tekkub | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12454665647&pageNo=1&sid=1#4 |
| 05:53.44 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 05:53.55 | Tekkub | make sure you read the last post |
| 05:54.06 | kd3 | rofl |
| 05:57.08 | NeoTron | kd3: still, neither of them are exactly exciting |
| 05:57.18 | NeoTron | when I heard "razing of ogrimmar"... this was not it :P |
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| 06:05.22 | kd3 | meh. we've got a little under 48 hours left. hopefully the fire and brimstone'll happen post-maintenance |
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| 07:05.25 | AbsoRayne | brbsexyparty |
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| 07:12.41 | Shaboo | allo |
| 07:12.48 | cog|away | nice try AbsoRayne |
| 07:13.02 | cog|away | allo |
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| 07:14.05 | Shaboo | I want my mod to pop up or hide when I enter a senario. I know how to check to see if I'm in one but what do i use a a trigger, obviously I don;t want to check every second |
| 07:15.06 | cog|away | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_(API) |
| 07:15.15 | NightHawkTheSane | "scenario"? are you referring to WAR? |
| 07:15.44 | Shaboo | k thx |
| 07:15.58 | Shaboo | lol whoops I joined the wrong chan |
| 07:16.48 | Shaboo | sorry :) |
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| 07:31.47 | cog|away | happy Week of the Lich King! |
| 07:31.48 | cog|away | nn |
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| 08:08.24 | AbsoRayne | Augh, this is driving me crazy |
| 08:10.21 | AbsoRayne | Something is creating this like...popping or pinging noise. Its eithe WoW or Ventrilo. |
| 08:10.54 | zenzio | how often does it happen? |
| 08:11.26 | AbsoRayne | very ofter |
| 08:11.27 | AbsoRayne | n |
| 08:11.45 | AbsoRayne | It MIGHT be Vista hating on me from tanking, since its basically key mashing |
| 08:11.52 | AbsoRayne | now that I think about it |
| 08:12.17 | AbsoRayne | Ill have to try |
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| 08:17.13 | Tem | THE GAME |
| 08:17.16 | Tem | You just lost it. |
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| 08:23.03 | Tekkub | tem, you seen any odditiy in chat with textures when scaled |
| 08:23.18 | Tem | depends on your font |
| 08:23.20 | Tekkub | I just realized I only see the uglies in lines that have a texture |
| 08:23.30 | Tekkub | whatever that one is in tekticles |
| 08:23.32 | Tem | and I don't think it has anything to do with your scale |
| 08:23.39 | Tem | but yes |
| 08:23.47 | Tem | textures in chat can sometimes cause artifacts |
| 08:23.48 | Tekkub | yea I'm beginning to think that too |
| 08:24.00 | Tem | I reported it to zoot like a YEAR AGO |
| 08:24.06 | Tekkub | damn him |
| 08:24.27 | Tem | they fixed one of the bugs with it |
| 08:24.35 | Tem | where it would completely screw with the kerning in the font |
| 08:25.17 | Tem | but they either could reproduce the artifacts issue or just haven't been able to fix it with wrath looming |
| 08:25.38 | Tem | doesn't bother me all that much since the font I use isn't affected |
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| 08:47.21 | abyx | does anyone know the path of the raid target icons? |
| 08:50.16 | Thunder_Child | lol, "Order WpW lich king by the 11th choose fedex 2 day and get it delivered by the 13th." why yes, i CAN do basic math |
| 08:50.23 | Thunder_Child | s/WpW/WoW/ |
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| 09:08.01 | AbsoRayne | OH |
| 09:08.06 | AbsoRayne | I figured out what it is! |
| 09:09.06 | AbsoRayne | Gah, wheres Mikk |
| 09:09.41 | AbsoRayne | nm, found it |
| 09:10.44 | haste | I still haven't ordered wotlk :p |
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| 09:24.32 | zenzio | haste: do you think you'll need to? Around here the stores seem to carry enough to just drop by and pick it up, unless you want the collector's edition |
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| 09:52.59 | Nom- | bugger... looks like the store i ordered from isn't opening on Thursday night :( |
| 09:53.04 | Nom- | So I can't get my copy until Friday morning |
| 09:53.08 | Nom- | 9:00am |
| 09:53.21 | cog|sleep | isn't the 13th thursday? |
| 09:54.16 | zenzio | yes |
| 09:54.21 | Nom- | Yes, but they can't sell me the game until Friday |
| 09:54.31 | zenzio | how come? |
| 09:54.37 | Nom- | Because Blizzard did it again... made the 14th the official release date in Australia |
| 09:54.41 | Nom- | *sigh* |
| 09:54.50 | cog|sleep | oh... serves you right for not being american |
| 09:54.51 | zenzio | O_o |
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| 09:56.41 | cog|sleep | ~poke bleetah |
| 09:56.42 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind bleetah, pokes bleetah repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 09:56.52 | Nom- | and if it's anything like last launch, the servers come up at like 10AM local time, then we have to wait nearly 24 hours before we can get it from the shops :( |
| 09:56.55 | bleetah | oh noes not teh frost wyrms and towering horrors!!!! |
| 09:56.57 | bleetah | fleeeee |
| 09:58.02 | cog|sleep | i think everyone should go by gmt. If midday is at 9:47pm so be it |
| 09:58.15 | bleetah | UGT OR DETH |
| 09:58.43 | bleetah | I think thrall is a bot, he's got all these defenders running around after him |
| 09:58.51 | bleetah | and it's def. NOT a multibox setup |
| 10:09.58 | bleetah | bah, thrall's a fool.. he's talking to hellscream and sylvanas and stuff about attacking northrend |
| 10:10.05 | bleetah | and northrend's not even on the map he has! |
| 10:10.08 | bleetah | EEDJET!! |
| 10:10.57 | bleetah | cog|sleep: rest well mate :) |
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| 11:00.31 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:02.16 | zenzio | all this what before which opening? The attacks on Stormwind and Orgrimmar? |
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| 11:06.42 | Wobin | yeg |
| 11:06.43 | Wobin | h |
| 11:08.15 | zenzio | depends what you mean "once". I read that it repeats about every 15 minutes |
| 11:15.30 | Elkano | don't think so, would have been a bit short to enjoy |
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| 12:21.54 | Movix | hi all ! |
| 12:22.46 | Movix | is there a place where i can get all the calendar related event that can be fired ? for now i only got those out of the Blizzard_Calendar.lua |
| 12:31.38 | Arrowmaster | ~wowprogramming |
| 12:31.38 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons (http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob) a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 12:32.17 | Mikk | AbsoRayne: whut? |
| 12:33.06 | cladhaire | Movix: This is a list of every single event that can fire in-game |
| 12:33.12 | cladhaire | not all are fully documented, but this is at least the names: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events |
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| 12:38.46 | Movix | thx a lot |
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| 13:20.08 | zenzio | http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1886349 - The Matrix runs on Windows (might be old news) |
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| 13:33.30 | Lonny`afk | What's the best way to check a player is AFK'ing ? is it better to use CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM event and check against MARKED_AFK_MESSAGE or just using the CHAT_MSG_AFK event ? I suspect that CHAT_MSG_AFK is just an alias of the former, at least literally ? |
| 13:35.12 | zenzio | what sort of player? Someone you have a unit ID for? |
| 13:35.32 | Lonny`afk | hmm well, the 'player' :) |
| 13:35.42 | zenzio | http://www.wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitIsAFK might work |
| 13:36.15 | zenzio | if I understood your question at least |
| 13:38.54 | Lonny`afk | I'll rephrase, what's better to use, CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM or CHAT_MSG_AFK to figure whether one is AFK'ing ? :P |
| 13:38.55 | sylvanaar | chat_msg_afk is the message you get from the other player when they are afk |
| 13:39.01 | Lonny`afk | ahh |
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| 13:40.00 | Lonny`afk | Thank you both :) |
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| 13:49.35 | Slakah | Lonny`afk: couldn't you use "PLAYER_FLAGS_CHANGED"? |
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| 13:52.07 | Lonny`afk | I can :) |
| 13:53.38 | Lonny`afk | Thanks, that's seems to be better |
| 13:53.55 | Lonny`afk | at least in my case |
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| 13:58.36 | Lonny`afk | Hmm another issue, it seems to be that 'UnitIsAFK' only working for friendly targets, correct ? |
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| 13:58.46 | sylvanaar | theres a bug in the chatframe code for raid icons, has anyone observed it? |
| 13:58.50 | sylvanaar | if ( arg7 < 1 or ( arg7 >= 1 and CHAT_SHOW_ICONS ~= "0" ) ) then |
| 14:00.15 | sylvanaar | CHAT_SHOW_ICONS starts out as "0", then it gets set to either true or false |
| 14:00.50 | sylvanaar | which i believe "0" is supposed to be |
| 14:02.16 | sylvanaar | I guess this would manifest as, not being able to see icons in chat, even when you change the option |
| 14:03.25 | sylvanaar | or rather, not being able to turn icons off once you change the option |
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| 14:21.43 | Lothaer | morning |
| 14:22.03 | Lopeppeppy | Morning. |
| 14:22.06 | zenzio | I fully understand the reasoning, but it still saddens me when I have to intentionally use incorrect grammar on a client's website because they worry so much about Google rankings |
| 14:22.31 | zenzio | "no comma!" |
| 14:24.56 | Lopeppeppy | Awwww... what they gain in intangible rankings they lose by offending smart customers. |
| 14:25.02 | |Jelly| | ~hug Peppy |
| 14:25.03 | purl | ACTION hugs Peppy tightly until Peppy turns slightly blue |
| 14:25.11 | Lothaer | hey are mods that contian java stuff ok to use? |
| 14:25.48 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Jelly=dear. |
| 14:26.18 | Lopeppeppy | Lothaer, in what manner do they contain "java stuff" ? Legitimate addons should be entirely Lua/XML, as I understand. |
| 14:26.30 | Lothaer | same |
| 14:27.07 | Lothaer | im a admin at wowui and its been uploaded there pending approval atm, ive search wowi and curse its at curse but idk |
| 14:27.20 | Lopeppeppy | Then "don't touch it with a 10 foot pole" is the prevailing wisdom. Unless it's an addon updater and not an actual addon itself? There are java updater things. |
| 14:27.23 | Lothaer | it contains .vbs and .js |
| 14:27.41 | Lopeppeppy | WoW can't even execute that, from what I understand. There's no reason for it to be there. |
| 14:27.49 | Lothaer | form what i can tell it gathers arena information and lets you upload it to your website |
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| 14:28.01 | Lothaer | it gathers data from your SVs |
| 14:28.03 | Lopeppeppy | Real time? Very no-no. Extremely so. |
| 14:28.13 | |Jelly| | Give it to Shirik imo. |
| 14:28.16 | Lopeppeppy | Or is this a program and not an addon, runs while WoW is not open? |
| 14:28.17 | |Jelly| | But decline it all the same. |
| 14:28.54 | Lothaer | yeah i think imma nuke it, it is at curse the mod is called ArenaDB |
| 14:29.06 | Lopeppeppy | I'm with Jelly, declining suspicious things is easier than defending them later. |
| 14:29.18 | Lothaer | true that |
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| 14:31.09 | Lopeppeppy | The description does say that you run it after you log out... but I've used updaters similar to this that you run after you log out, and do NOT require being placed in the WoW folder... Meh. Suspicious is suspicious. |
| 14:31.12 | cbreak | is there a readme file explaining the js/vbs? |
| 14:31.40 | cbreak | maybe it only needs to be there to know what to upload. app relative paths :/ |
| 14:31.48 | cbreak | (or it does evil things :) |
| 14:31.51 | zenzio | Lopeppeppy: being placed in the WoW folder could just be to make it easier for the script to determine where the SV files are stored |
| 14:32.02 | Lopeppeppy | Easy? Bah. |
| 14:32.04 | zenzio | curse you for typing faster cbreak |
| 14:32.17 | Lopeppeppy | The readme is very short, just a list of the slash commands. |
| 14:32.19 | |Jelly| | Or maybe it wants your keys. |
| 14:32.24 | |Jelly| | And your purpelz. |
| 14:32.27 | Lopeppeppy | I like my keys, do not need to share. |
| 14:32.40 | Lopeppeppy | Give it to Shirik to treat like ebola! |
| 14:33.07 | |Jelly| | IT'S EATING MY INSIDES! |
| 14:34.30 | Lothaer | grr wtb itemsync update :D |
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| 14:35.39 | |Jelly| | grr wtb winning lottery ticket :D |
| 14:37.12 | Lothaer | hey guys if you had to play with ONE mod only what would it be? |
| 14:37.20 | Lopeppeppy | Clique. |
| 14:37.28 | Lothaer | Titan |
| 14:37.33 | |Jelly| | Clique |
| 14:37.54 | Nom- | One mod? Probably Pitbull or agUF |
| 14:38.01 | Slakah | bejeweled |
| 14:38.02 | Nom- | I can't deal with the default unit frames |
| 14:38.05 | Lothaer | lol |
| 14:38.09 | Lothaer | hey Slakah |
| 14:38.10 | zenzio | hm... think I'd go with MSBT |
| 14:38.35 | Lopeppeppy | I can deal with anything else at all... but without Clique, I would go mad in a heartbeat. |
| 14:38.39 | Lopeppeppy | < -- healer. |
| 14:38.40 | Nom- | hmm i tried that, zenzio ... couldn't stand it - SCT better imo |
| 14:38.43 | Lothaer | <---- beta tested Bejeweled |
| 14:38.56 | clad|away | I could manage without Clique |
| 14:38.59 | clad|away | but I'd want to stab myself |
| 14:39.05 | zenzio | Nom-: that's just a matter of personal taste. MSBT is still the one addon I'd keep |
| 14:39.10 | Lothaer | what does clique do? |
| 14:39.15 | Lothaer | im a healer and i dont use it |
| 14:39.16 | clad|away | I'm fine with Blizzard's FCT |
| 14:39.18 | Lopeppeppy | I would stab myself so I had a reason to go AFK and leave the raid. |
| 14:39.19 | |Jelly| | Peppy went back to healing? |
| 14:39.26 | clad|away | ~clique |
| 14:39.27 | purl | hmm... clique is a click-casting addon by Cladhaire, which you can download from WoWInterface: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5108-Clique.html |
| 14:39.36 | Lopeppeppy | Lothaer, in very very very short, it helps you bind spells to your mouse. OH MY GOD sexy. |
| 14:39.38 | |Jelly| | ~hug Clad |
| 14:39.39 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Clad |
| 14:39.49 | Slakah | Lothaer: Click on a unitframe with a modifier down and it casts a spell onto that unit. |
| 14:39.53 | Lopeppeppy | |Jelly|, I have no other characters ready for wrath but healers. |
| 14:39.54 | zenzio | I like MSBT in that I can configure it to display all sorts of stuff in a way that lets me keep up with what's going on while tanking |
| 14:39.57 | Lothaer | might give it a whirl |
| 14:40.13 | |Jelly| | ohey. Servers be down .. can't test anything! |
| 14:40.17 | Lopeppeppy | Lothaer, it will rock your socks. It will put cream in your coffee for you, it will buy you donuts, it's the very best ever. |
| 14:40.19 | clad|away | use EU servers :P |
| 14:40.38 | |Jelly| | I'm not one of those dirty EU people! |
| 14:40.52 | Lopeppeppy | clad|gym showers! |
| 14:41.03 | clad|gym | truth! |
| 14:41.09 | Lothaer | my must have mods are Titan, X-Perl, LunarSphere, Bagnon, Bartender |
| 14:41.29 | clad|gym | I think I want to download TItan again |
| 14:41.32 | zenzio | I don't even use a unit-frame addon :-o |
| 14:41.34 | Lothaer | do eet |
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| 14:41.44 | Lothaer | clad do eet |
| 14:41.46 | Lopeppeppy | Titan makes me want to let the tank die so I have a reason to log out and de-install it. |
| 14:41.59 | clad|gym | ? |
| 14:41.59 | Lopeppeppy | DataText is working wonderfully for me as a replacement. |
| 14:42.01 | |Jelly| | Same with X-Perl |
| 14:42.02 | Slakah | L2/console reloadUI |
| 14:42.03 | Lothaer | ~slap Lopepeppy |
| 14:42.04 | purl | ACTION slaps Lopepeppy, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 14:42.25 | Lothaer | have u used Titan lately? |
| 14:42.50 | Nom- | aaaaaaaaaargh epic fail |
| 14:43.12 | opant | hmm |
| 14:43.15 | Nom- | If I was in Sydney, Melbourne or Brisbane I could get my copy of wrath at midnight on friday |
| 14:43.18 | opant | I need to check out datatext |
| 14:43.30 | Lothaer | where u at Mom? |
| 14:43.42 | Slakah | PopCap clearly need to port Peggle to WoW. |
| 14:43.51 | Nom- | wtb ebgames that opens at midnight in Perth |
| 14:43.52 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, it eats my memory, and hogs my screen. I don't like how it looks or feels. Fubar was better or a while, but then it very obviously wasn't. DataText is the next gen, starting out promising at least. |
| 14:43.54 | clad|gym | peggle in wow would be death |
| 14:43.56 | Lothaer | LOL |
| 14:44.03 | clad|gym | whats DataText? |
| 14:44.04 | clad|gym | link? |
| 14:44.14 | Lothaer | SA here and im getting mine midnight on thursday |
| 14:44.25 | Nom- | Very lucky, Lothaer |
| 14:44.33 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm. It's on WoWInterface, IIRC clad. It's just the basic stuff people used Titan/Fubar for. FPS, bags, mail... |
| 14:44.40 | Lothaer | :D |
| 14:44.43 | Nom- | If I'm that bored, I might cruise down to the EBGames just in case... I doubt they'll be opening though |
| 14:44.48 | Lothaer | why do u have to wait linger? |
| 14:44.49 | Slakah | clad|gym: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8539-SLDataText.html |
| 14:45.00 | Lopeppeppy | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8539-SLDataText.html |
| 14:45.12 | Slakah | ~fail Lopeppeppy |
| 14:45.13 | purl | Lopeppeppy: FAIL! |
| 14:45.28 | Lothaer | longer* |
| 14:45.32 | Anaral | ~win Lopeppeppy |
| 14:45.32 | purl | Congratulations, Lopeppeppy! You have won a one way ticket to baghdad! |
| 14:45.39 | |Jelly| | nice |
| 14:45.45 | clad|gym | I apparently have no LDB addons |
| 14:45.45 | Lopeppeppy | Okie dokie, y'all totally woke up pretty cranky. At least purl offers me a vacation. |
| 14:45.55 | clad|gym | otherwise I was under the impression they would appear in titan |
| 14:45.56 | |Jelly| | I didn't! |
| 14:45.59 | |Jelly| | ~love Peppy |
| 14:45.59 | purl | If you love Peppy so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh) |
| 14:46.07 | |Jelly| | Peppy isn't an it! |
| 14:46.33 | Lothaer | Mom-: when are ypu getting your copy? |
| 14:46.49 | Nom- | Lothaer: It'll be 9:00am Friday... the first time the store is open |
| 14:46.56 | Lothaer | kk |
| 14:47.11 | Anaral | Lothaer: Nom is your mom? o.O |
| 14:47.15 | Lothaer | im getting mine from the local computer store, WTB EB store |
| 14:47.27 | Lothaer | have drive 40mins to my closest EB |
| 14:47.32 | Lothaer | lol |
| 14:47.48 | Nom- | I ordered mine from the city tho... it's about a 30 min drive |
| 14:47.54 | Nom- | And at that time of the morning, probably longer |
| 14:47.59 | Nom- | I might just go down at lunch time |
| 14:48.06 | Lothaer | woops been pressing M instead of N |
| 14:48.32 | Lothaer | kk lol |
| 14:48.33 | Nom- | Jump on the bike, cruise to the city ... at least it's actually possible to find a spot to leave a bike for 5 minutes...forget parking a car tho |
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| 14:49.05 | cbreak | no bus? |
| 14:49.30 | Nom- | Yeah, but I'd like to actually get home before midday on Sunday |
| 14:49.33 | Lothaer | im going to take my comp to the shop Thursday arvo install wotlk then goto work and comback after work for the launch |
| 14:49.43 | Nom- | Public transport in this city is shite |
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| 14:50.12 | Nom- | It's actually cheaper for me to ride my motorcycle to and from work than it is to catch the train in |
| 14:50.30 | Nom- | Even with the current petrol prices |
| 14:50.50 | Lothaer | how much u paying in Perth? |
| 14:51.09 | Nom- | Costs me about $3.20 each way on the train |
| 14:51.18 | Lothaer | for petty |
| 14:51.32 | Nom- | Now, the EB store is about 10 minutes by foot from work, so about the same distance |
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| 14:51.44 | clad|gym | is there a titan/ldb plugin for addon memory/cpu usage? |
| 14:51.45 | Nom- | I ride to work every day, and it costs me $20 a week on petrol |
| 14:51.57 | clad|gym | OH NVM |
| 14:52.04 | Nom- | Do the math.. $6.40 a day by train... $20 a week by petrol |
| 14:52.04 | clad|gym | the default perf plugin does it |
| 14:52.23 | Lothaer | atm in adelaid its about $1.10 a liter but in Victor Harbor where i live its $1.40 |
| 14:52.41 | Nom- | I've never had a tank of petrol in my bike cost more than $19 |
| 14:52.44 | Nom- | it's a pretty small tank |
| 14:53.00 | Lothaer | lol |
| 14:53.07 | Lothaer | very ecconomical |
| 14:53.23 | Nom- | given that lasts me a whole week of travel to and from work |
| 14:53.37 | Nom- | and i'm not exactly sparing on the throttle... it is a powerful bike :) |
| 14:54.12 | Nom- | If I wanted to, I could probably stretch the tank further... but that's no fun :P |
| 14:54.28 | Lothaer | LOL |
| 14:54.44 | Lothaer | whats the point of being able to go fast if your not going to do it :D |
| 14:56.35 | Nom- | exactly :P |
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| 15:05.45 | opant | hmm |
| 15:06.07 | opant | I may be switching to datatext, looks better than fubar |
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| 15:10.25 | ZorbaTHut | haha. the latest version of questhelper uses an achievement function or two |
| 15:10.43 | ZorbaTHut | and now I'm having people submitting error reports from 2.4.3 servers, saying "it worked yesterday, why did questhelper stop working" |
| 15:11.14 | ZorbaTHut | an unexpected, but amusing side effect. |
| 15:11.15 | Stanzilla | idiots with no future.. |
| 15:12.07 | clad|gym | lol |
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| 15:12.55 | AbsoRayne | brbquantumofsolace! \o/ |
| 15:13.47 | opant | afterall, all bugs are your fault zorba |
| 15:14.05 | cbreak | there are no 2.4.3 servers. |
| 15:14.08 | ZorbaTHut | opant, especially ones on private servers :D |
| 15:14.15 | opant | muhhahaah :D |
| 15:14.57 | ZorbaTHut | although I have to admit a small amount of the non-QH bug reports are my fault, since QH is a little overzealous about claiming crashes as being possibly its fault. |
| 15:14.59 | Legorol | morning |
| 15:15.47 | Legorol | Does anyone know a good MySQL extension to Lua? I want to write a client to query a MySQL table located on some random server. |
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| 15:17.10 | cbreak | maybe you should ask in #lua |
| 15:17.19 | cbreak | since that has nothing to do with wow. |
| 15:19.11 | Legorol | you are absolutely right |
| 15:19.35 | Legorol | at the same time, i have many familiar faces here whose opinions I trust, and this channel is often used for non-WoW discussions |
| 15:19.37 | opant | maybe: http://www.fastflow.it/mylua/ |
| 15:19.42 | Legorol | so you are also wrong :) |
| 15:19.49 | opant | I really dont know leg...so dont trust me :X |
| 15:20.48 | Legorol | opant: don't worry, i won't.. especially since you just googled that link without checking what it actually is ;-) |
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| 15:21.19 | opant | true. |
| 15:21.21 | opant | :D |
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| 15:21.39 | Legorol | I know that because I found it before and I happen to know what that link is. |
| 15:22.00 | opant | heh, just trying to help :p |
| 15:22.04 | Legorol | google is available on my Internet too :P |
| 15:22.29 | Legorol | it would've been extremely rude of me to come here ask for help without having attempted my own research first (starting with google) |
| 15:22.53 | Legorol | i appreciate you trying to help though |
| 15:24.44 | cbreak | I haven't seen anything useful on lua-users.org. That page really needs a search function |
| 15:25.51 | Nom- | man assassins creed looks hot in DX10 + max quality :) |
| 15:26.37 | Pneumatus | Legorol: http://www.keplerproject.org/luasql/manual.html appears to support mySQL among other DBMS |
| 15:27.06 | AbsoRayne | Nooooooo the sound got out of sync ;_; |
| 15:28.10 | opant | pneumatus: I was going to post that link, but it comes up in google :P |
| 15:28.30 | Legorol | Pneumatus: thanks, i haven't tried that link yet |
| 15:28.40 | Legorol | opant: my googlefu is not infallible, apologies :) |
| 15:29.06 | Legorol | I was kind of hoping for someone who actually tried to use something before, i'll see where I get with LuaSQL |
| 15:29.46 | cbreak | you could also bind a C/C++ api if needed :) |
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| 15:31.44 | foxlit | Legorol: I've used luasql, albeit against sqlite |
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| 15:32.16 | foxlit | Wasn't bad, really |
| 15:32.34 | Legorol | thanks foxlit |
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| 15:40.52 | zenzelezz | fill me in here... didn't they remove crushing blows in 3.0? Or is that yet to come? |
| 15:41.18 | zenzelezz | or was it only crushing blows from mobs close to your own level they removed |
| 15:41.42 | foxlit | probably the latter |
| 15:43.23 | durcyn | zenzelezz: it was changed from +3 levels to +4 levels in 3.0 |
| 15:44.10 | zenzelezz | oh, that was all they did? I really misread the notes during development then :) |
| 15:46.09 | cbreak | there will be no +4 unless you are below max level |
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| 15:46.38 | zenzelezz | yeah, but I still misread it; all I saw was "no more crushing blows" |
| 15:46.57 | zenzelezz | then my guildies started talking about crushing blows on the horde bosses and I figured I must have missed something |
| 15:47.06 | durcyn | oh, trust me, go try to do the opposite faction city leaders and you'll get crushed and crit all night long |
| 15:47.26 | zenzelezz | yeah, that's what they were saying :-p |
| 15:47.55 | durcyn | i <3 my black war bear though |
| 15:48.20 | cbreak | I have a black war kitten... much cuter... |
| 15:48.54 | durcyn | though it is rather disconcerting that its mouth -never- -closes- |
| 15:49.34 | zenzelezz | like owner, like... |
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| 16:08.34 | Wikwocket | Is there a place where I can find the definition of UnitAura(), or is there anything beyond say the wowwiki documentation? |
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| 16:10.50 | cladhaire | Wikwocket: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10043170854&sid=1 is not sufficient for your needs? |
| 16:11.01 | cladhaire | name, rank, icon, count, debuffType, duration, expirationTime, isMine, isStealable = UnitAura("unit", [index] or ["name", "rank"][, "filter"]) |
| 16:11.28 | Wikwocket | It is, I am however wondering if the isCastable argument from UnitBuff disappeared in the change to UnitAura() |
| 16:12.11 | nevcairiel | yes isCastable vanished ;) |
| 16:12.21 | nevcairiel | you can achieve that with a filter now, iirc |
| 16:13.50 | Wikwocket | I thought that might be the case, just couldn't tell which filter |
| 16:14.28 | Wikwocket | There are "PLAYER" and "RAID" but I am not clear what those refer to :( |
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| 16:16.48 | nevcairiel | RAID are buffs that you can cast |
| 16:16.55 | nevcairiel | not sure what PLAYER is |
| 16:18.34 | Wikwocket | Hrm |
| 16:18.48 | Wikwocket | I'll give RAID a shot and see what it returns, when the servers come back |
| 16:18.52 | Wikwocket | Thank you! :) |
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| 16:27.13 | Wikwocket | Hmmm Slouken writes, "UnitAura("HELPFUL|RAID") will return only buffs that you can cast on your raid and UnitAura("HARMFUL|RAID") will return only buffs that you can dispel from your raid." |
| 16:27.42 | Wikwocket | So I guess PLAYER is buffs you can cast on yourself? So like PW:Fort as well as Inner Fire maybe... |
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| 16:30.43 | ScytheBlade1 | So I was going to login and do some /trade recruiting for Wrath |
| 16:30.50 | ScytheBlade1 | ...then the servers were doen |
| 16:30.53 | ScytheBlade1 | *down |
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| 16:32.16 | cbreak | yay. Seems I'll get WotLK thursday mornings. |
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| 16:32.52 | Hjalte | Seerah: Hi! Those textures, that you are using on one of the pictures describing features of PocketPlot, are they available somewhere? :) |
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| 16:33.38 | Seerah | Hjalte: you mean the flowers and stuff on the picture with 3 minimaps in it? |
| 16:33.46 | Hjalte | Seerah: Yeah. |
| 16:33.53 | Seerah | they were brushes from deviant art |
| 16:33.58 | durcyn | cladhaire: WowLua r25's toc has "X-LoadOn-Shash" instead of "Slash". on top of that, the first time WowLuaFrame is shown after LoadAddOn is called (with or without AddonLoader), the text entry wraps at about ten characters. closing and re-opening sets it to the full width of the frame |
| 16:34.00 | Seerah | for photoshop |
| 16:34.03 | cladhaire | lol |
| 16:34.18 | cladhaire | durcyn: thanks, I hadn't had a chance to test it :P |
| 16:34.31 | cladhaire | I was apparently drunk on Brewfest beer at the time I wrote it |
| 16:34.42 | durcyn | heh, no worries |
| 16:34.49 | durcyn | the text wrapping had me scratching my head though |
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| 16:37.43 | ScytheBlade1 | http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/NotAlwaysRight/~3/448743481/1346 |
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| 16:39.49 | Aqua | Hi i have a question, does anyone know if Wow Bench ever got updated? |
| 16:40.12 | Aqua | trying to work on my addon today with the servers being down and i can't test my major changes |
| 16:42.25 | ScytheBlade1 | http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/50-Cash-Fast.aspx is pretty good too |
| 16:44.09 | Aqua | ? |
| 16:44.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Aqua: unrelated to your question, sorry |
| 16:45.18 | Aqua | ScytheBlade1: no problem, misunderstood |
| 16:45.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Aqua: in any case no I don't think it was ever updated (or incredibly useful ever... it had potential but that was about it) |
| 16:46.15 | cladhaire | durcyn: fixed, will push a new version |
| 16:46.46 | Aqua | ScytheBlade1: Suggestions for (off)line testing? |
| 16:46.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Test online. Sorry. :( |
| 16:47.19 | Aqua | /sigh |
| 16:47.20 | AbsoRayne | Kay, movie over! ^_^ |
| 16:50.34 | AbsoRayne | O_o |
| 16:50.39 | mikma | owned |
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| 16:50.57 | Lopeppeppy | I am fairly confident that cladhaire can swim. |
| 16:51.02 | Aqua | i can't |
| 16:51.21 | Aqua | water scares me |
| 16:51.25 | mikma | and your nick is aqua |
| 16:51.30 | Aqua | yea |
| 16:51.30 | mikma | how convenient |
| 16:51.34 | Aqua | irony |
| 16:51.56 | Aqua | i think thats right atleast, i'm working on an all nighter |
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| 17:21.31 | kylapup | Can you call :EnableMouse(true/false) on a SecureUnitButton while InCombatLockdown? |
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| 17:22.31 | cbreak | if you could, secure buttons would not be secure, right? |
| 17:22.38 | cbreak | I bet 1 gold you can't. |
| 17:23.44 | Kraps | holy !!@#$, i did not know the psychotic backstory of Jaina Proudmoore! |
| 17:23.47 | kylapup | Well, I know you can call :SetAlpha(0/1) to spoof a show/hide, but you can't click through the frames if :EnableMouse is true. Was hoping for a way to truly hide or show em (:Hide/Show() doesn't work, I found) |
| 17:24.32 | foxlit | kylapup: What you're trying to do is in violation of the general goals of blizzard's API design. |
| 17:24.43 | Lopeppeppy | Kraps, she's a messed up chick with an Elektra complex. |
| 17:24.51 | foxlit | it's best to abandon that course; if you find some way to make it work, they'll just patch over you :) |
| 17:24.54 | Wikwocket | I would think that if you could truly hide buttons, you could stack 25 "dispel raidX" buttons and recreate Decursive |
| 17:24.57 | cbreak | kylapup: it doesn't matter if a button is visible or not |
| 17:25.02 | cbreak | if it's shown it's active |
| 17:25.35 | kylapup | So, if you have a target frame, you have to have it interactive but alpha'd off when the player has no target in combat? |
| 17:25.35 | cbreak | no |
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| 17:25.35 | cbreak | it's hidden |
| 17:25.45 | cbreak | secure state drivers or other secure code can react to such things |
| 17:26.22 | cbreak | (I have stayed far away of that stuff... way too needlessly complicated) |
| 17:26.38 | kylapup | So then there -is- a way to fully hide/show a frame in combat then, just not the way I'm thinking, you say? |
| 17:26.52 | foxlit | It depends entirely on what you're thinking. |
| 17:27.03 | foxlit | What frame are you attempting to show/hide, based on what conditions? |
| 17:27.17 | alestane | You can do it, but only in response to certain conditions and triggers. |
| 17:27.37 | cbreak | kylapup: there's no way to hide or show secure frames for _you_ |
| 17:27.46 | cbreak | there's a way to tell the game to do it for you |
| 17:27.50 | cbreak | based on certain conditions |
| 17:27.59 | cbreak | because the game has more rights than addon code it can do it |
| 17:28.28 | cbreak | I think the easiest way is RegisterUnitWatch, but that has always seemed a bit crude |
| 17:28.35 | kylapup | Right. Hmm. foxlit: They're custom playertarget, targettarget, focus frames. |
| 17:28.37 | cbreak | (I read it puts an OnUpdate into the frame...) |
| 17:30.23 | kylapup | My initial thought was :Show() :Hide(), tested, but can't in-combat. Then I went with :SetAlpha(0/1), but you can't click through the frames. I'll look into your UnitWatch thing there. |
| 17:31.08 | cbreak | don't |
| 17:31.10 | cbreak | it's evil |
| 17:31.14 | kylapup | lol |
| 17:31.16 | cbreak | look at the Secure state api |
| 17:31.29 | cbreak | I also heard about a new thing, secure handlers |
| 17:31.33 | cbreak | but they are terribly undocumented |
| 17:31.38 | cbreak | so I have no idea how they are used |
| 17:31.54 | alestane | secure handlers have replaced the secure state API (it's gone) and they are moderately well documented by now. |
| 17:32.22 | cbreak | the only docs I found wasSecureHandlers.lua |
| 17:32.34 | foxlit | You do NOT want to read the new code. |
| 17:32.55 | cbreak | you sure the old is gone |
| 17:32.58 | foxlit | It's long, spread out, and you need an even bigger bigger picture before you can make sense of it. |
| 17:33.13 | foxlit | But there are some "how to use this" stickies and pdfs somewhere |
| 17:33.17 | alestane | Yes, SecureStateHeader.lua is gone. |
| 17:33.32 | alestane | They're on the UI forum, and they are indeed stickied. |
| 17:34.00 | cbreak | there's still SecureTemplates.lua |
| 17:34.02 | alestane | And there should be a link to the PDF (more of a tech reference than a tutorial) in the sticky as well. |
| 17:34.59 | cbreak | hmm... the US forum? |
| 17:35.03 | alestane | Yes. |
| 17:35.06 | cbreak | lame... |
| 17:35.15 | alestane | "Intro to the Secure Handlers." |
| 17:35.24 | alestane | I don't have post access on the EU forums. |
| 17:36.25 | cbreak | there it is: |
| 17:36.27 | cbreak | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11162847431&sid=1 |
| 17:36.49 | alestane | I was just coming back to link it. |
| 17:36.57 | cbreak | sorry :) |
| 17:37.03 | kylapup | Mmk, I'll pour over it. It's not my intention to work around the game's limitations, but to figure out what the provisions for performing the actions I'm hoping for is all. :p |
| 17:37.18 | cbreak | the limitations are intentional |
| 17:37.24 | cbreak | if that makes you feel better :D |
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| 17:38.52 | kylapup | Bah, they don't bother me all that much or anything. It's a good thing in the end. |
| 17:43.30 | Shirik|Ecole | Strange questions |
| 17:43.42 | Shirik|Ecole | "Do you consider yourself an individual with a disability" <--? |
| 17:43.46 | Shirik|Ecole | strange way of wording that |
| 17:45.14 | Lopeppeppy | Nope. Very extremely PC way to phrase it. Not whether you have been legally diagnosed, but whether you consider yourself to be disabled. HUGE difference. |
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| 17:47.52 | Lunessa | station |
| 17:48.01 | alestane | ...skdioosh? |
| 17:48.33 | Lopeppeppy | Whistle! |
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| 17:50.50 | Shirik|Ecole | SWEET! |
| 17:50.55 | Shirik|Ecole | I finally managed to make my mailbox say 100% full |
| 17:51.00 | NightHawkTheSane | "It's called 'Civilization' No, wait, there's already a game called that. OK, It's called 'Society'. haha, i love oots. |
| 17:51.05 | Shirik|Ecole | It actually turns red instead of yellow when that happens, interesting |
| 17:52.09 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, that's BAD, mmmkay? |
| 17:52.15 | Lopeppeppy | Empty your mail sometimes, sweetheart. |
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| 17:53.03 | zenzelezz | I wonder how many stacks of Netherweave Cloth I have in my alt's mailbox and bank now |
| 17:53.47 | Duman | heh |
| 17:53.56 | Duman | I was thinking that the other day, as I mailed it another 5 stacks |
| 17:54.00 | Shirik|Ecole | oh what the hell |
| 17:54.04 | Shirik|Ecole | These guys are awesome! |
| 17:54.06 | NightHawkTheSane | zenzelezz: too many |
| 17:54.26 | Lopeppeppy | What is being awesome now, Shirik? |
| 17:54.28 | zenzelezz | NightHawkTheSane: probably, but I wanted to make sure I had enough |
| 17:54.43 | Shirik|Ecole | We started working with this new company at school, and I sent them an email with some questions, the next day they assigned us a senior engineer and had very detailed technical answers for all our questions, which was nice |
| 17:54.46 | Shirik|Ecole | but today I got an email.... |
| 17:54.57 | Shirik|Ecole | Hi Matthew, |
| 17:54.58 | Shirik|Ecole | Did you want to schedule a phone/Webex meeting sometime soon to discuss your tool needs? We can also elaborate on any area you are unclear on or need more detail. |
| 17:55.02 | Shirik|Ecole | .... these guys are amazing :D |
| 17:55.26 | zenzelezz | "tool needs"? Sounds like an invitation to hawt cybor |
| 17:55.28 | Lopeppeppy | Or they are desperately trying to damage-control you. :) |
| 17:55.35 | Duman | lol |
| 17:56.58 | Shirik|Ecole | They have many software packages that we will be using |
| 17:57.09 | Shirik|Ecole | They're donating us approximately $50k in hardware and $100k in software |
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| 17:57.41 | Shirik|Ecole | To develop, simulate, test, and analyze the vehicle we're creating |
| 17:58.02 | alestane | What do they get out of it? |
| 17:58.14 | cbreak | that sounds nice |
| 17:59.47 | mikma | shirik|ecole: yey! |
| 18:00.00 | mikma | more NSFshirik links! |
| 18:00.07 | mikma | NEED.....MORE! |
| 18:00.25 | Shirik|Ecole | alestane: Good question |
| 18:00.31 | Shirik|Ecole | I really don't know |
| 18:00.51 | zenzelezz | Shirik's building a fembot |
| 18:01.05 | mikma | eath by snusnu! |
| 18:01.10 | mikma | death* |
| 18:01.14 | Shirik|Ecole | http://www.ecocarchallenge.org/ |
| 18:02.49 | cbreak | maybe they just want the research |
| 18:02.59 | Wikwocket | In that case what the company gets is free publicity, and good feelings |
| 18:03.06 | cbreak | or the researchers |
| 18:03.23 | Wikwocket | AutomationFirect donates a lot to car and robot challenges like that, they publicize them as app notes and so on |
| 18:03.30 | Wikwocket | *AutomationDirect |
| 18:03.32 | cbreak | at my former university, Disney opened a laboratory and snatched away some talented people for it |
| 18:04.00 | Wikwocket | They also effectively get a team of students who are grateful to them and very experienced with their products |
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| 18:13.21 | Shirik|Ecole | I know why some companies are doing it |
| 18:13.32 | Shirik|Ecole | GM is giving a LOT because they want to hire people already trained on their tools |
| 18:13.52 | Shirik|Ecole | dSPACE, though, maybe they have students going out to companies familiar with their tools and make recommendations to their hiring managers? |
| 18:13.55 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm not sure |
| 18:14.27 | NightHawkTheSane | this is fascinating.. http://now.sprint.com/widget/ |
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| 18:17.08 | Movix | did i correctly understood that tagged instance names are only submited by the server in the localized client language. I'd like to build a tag analyser but this seems not very secure fo me if i had to make translation table to detect the instance name in a language abstract way |
| 18:17.20 | Movix | hope this was understandable |
| 18:18.24 | cbreak | tagged? |
| 18:18.31 | cbreak | you mean instances you are saved to? |
| 18:18.41 | Movix | yes that's it |
| 18:19.03 | Movix | instance that i have an ID bound to |
| 18:20.21 | Movix | i did not find any iunstance name variables, nor in globastrings.lua, nor in raidframe.lua |
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| 18:20.22 | cbreak | maybe you can do something with the ID |
| 18:20.22 | cbreak | but I would mentally prepare to write a table for it |
| 18:20.22 | cbreak | in various languages |
| 18:20.23 | Movix | the id is a unique number assigned to the instance |
| 18:20.31 | cbreak | (I had the same problem with identifying water elementals, and gave up) |
| 18:20.34 | cbreak | yes |
| 18:20.39 | cbreak | but maybe not all bits are random |
| 18:20.51 | cbreak | maybe some are based on the instance |
| 18:20.59 | cbreak | (probably not) |
| 18:21.06 | Movix | ah ok i see, yes ican check this |
| 18:21.12 | Movix | i think so to |
| 18:21.56 | Movix | will look closer to calendar perhaps there are some string within this addon |
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| 18:27.41 | Movix | seems also submitted by the server ! :| |
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| 18:28.57 | Movix | but linked to the texture that should be international, and the cache also stores the name, so this is perhaps a way |
| 18:30.02 | Lopeppeppy | Re-hello, Lunessa. |
| 18:30.35 | Lunessa | thanks. . :) CMD-Q while the wrong window is focus doesn't help. :) |
| 18:30.35 | AbsoRayne | yay! KJ is up! \o/ |
| 18:30.59 | zenzelezz | most people prefer it when he's down |
| 18:30.59 | Lopeppeppy | Huzzah! |
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| 18:31.18 | AbsoRayne | Ive never seen him down |
| 18:31.20 | AbsoRayne | oh well |
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| 18:32.34 | Jelly-School | ~hug Peppy |
| 18:32.34 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Peppy |
| 18:33.49 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Jelly-dear. |
| 18:36.04 | Jelly-School | How are you? |
| 18:36.16 | Lopeppeppy | Very-cold! |
| 18:36.17 | Duman | hmm, was there actually a patch today? |
| 18:36.43 | NeoTron | so a guildy just reported that he saw a level 80 character |
| 18:36.59 | durcyn | NeoTron: a character or a GM? |
| 18:37.05 | NeoTron | I am not sure |
| 18:37.11 | Jelly-School | SS or it didn't happen. |
| 18:37.24 | NeoTron | I agree |
| 18:37.37 | NeoTron | seems unlikely to me |
| 18:39.00 | zenzelezz | NPC? |
| 18:39.13 | NeoTron | asking for a screenshot. I don't believe him. |
| 18:40.10 | Lopeppeppy | It's so cold in my office that my hands are shrinking, my rings are way too loose. |
| 18:40.31 | Jelly-School | :( space heater |
| 18:40.38 | Lunessa | I thought women wanted to shrink, at least in specific places. |
| 18:41.02 | Lunessa | Oh, and "They Love Me in That Tunnel." |
| 18:41.03 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, this is painfully cold. Like everyone else, take 20 pounds off me, please...but not because I'm shivering! |
| 18:42.18 | NeoTron | Lunessa: I prefer a dash of baileys myself |
| 18:42.35 | Lopeppeppy | I need a new space heater, this one is starting to get that "motor burning out" smell I don't like. So I can't use it. |
| 18:42.43 | Lunessa | I suppose. But ... where's all the rum gone? |
| 18:44.18 | Lopeppeppy | Drank it. |
| 18:44.48 | Movix | do you think that the table {CalendarEventGetTextures(CALENDAR_EVENTTYPE_RAID)} is reliable. i tested it on 3 clients and got the same result |
| 18:44.58 | Jelly-School | Just so everyone knows, Off-Topic is doubleplusgood these days. Lots of great reading. |
| 18:46.34 | Lopeppeppy | Drama llama feasts? |
| 18:46.44 | Jelly-School | And how. |
| 18:46.53 | Shirik|Ecole | Jelly-School, that comment is off-topic here |
| 18:46.56 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet. I love the tears of the QQ Nooblets. |
| 18:47.06 | Jelly-School | Shirik|Ecole: Pot, Kettle. |
| 18:47.18 | Lopeppeppy | Purple! |
| 18:47.19 | Lopeppeppy | Wait. |
| 18:47.21 | Lopeppeppy | Wrong color. |
| 18:47.24 | Lopeppeppy | Um.... orange? |
| 18:47.25 | Jelly-School | RED! |
| 18:47.35 | Shirik|Ecole | blue obviously |
| 18:47.36 | Lunessa | QQ Nn00blets. their tears fuel my super powers. |
| 18:47.37 | Shirik|Ecole | everyone likes blue |
| 18:47.51 | Lopeppeppy | I hate blue. |
| 18:47.55 | Lopeppeppy | Blue is the color of the devil! |
| 18:47.56 | Shirik|Ecole | what?! |
| 18:48.01 | Lopeppeppy | SATAN IS BLUE!!!! |
| 18:48.09 | Lunessa | You know Shirik|Ecole, not everybody likes onions. You know what everybody likes? Parfait. Everybody likes parfait! |
| 18:48.11 | Jelly-School | This guy is going around reporting essentially all the posts that he doesn't agree with. It's funny. |
| 18:48.23 | Jelly-School | Onions have layers! |
| 18:48.39 | Shirik|Ecole | hurricanes are blue |
| 18:48.57 | Lopeppeppy | Hurricanes are red, with cute umbrellas. |
| 18:50.54 | Lunessa | As long as they aren't named Ike. |
| 18:52.07 | cbreak | what's parfait? |
| 18:52.36 | Lopeppeppy | Oh...my... god.... |
| 18:52.51 | Shirik|Ecole | did you seriously just ask that? |
| 18:52.54 | NightHawkTheSane | http://google.com/search?q=define:parfait |
| 18:53.01 | Lunessa | cbreak: Everybody likes parfait. |
| 18:53.05 | Jelly-School | ~whalenuke cbreak |
| 18:53.06 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around cbreak with his mind powers. |
| 18:53.12 | Lopeppeppy | Don't no nobody don't like no parfait. |
| 18:53.12 | Movix | parfaitement ! |
| 18:53.22 | cbreak | everybody likes pizza. |
| 18:53.33 | Shirik|Ecole | I need food now |
| 18:53.35 | Shirik|Ecole | you all suck |
| 18:53.43 | Lopeppeppy | *big eyes* |
| 18:54.46 | Shirik|Ecole | what am I going to eat today |
| 18:54.47 | Shirik|Ecole | hm |
| 18:55.08 | cbreak | I am eating racelette. tasty. |
| 18:55.52 | Shirik|Ecole | wtf is racelette? |
| 18:56.05 | cbreak | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raclette |
| 18:56.07 | Shirik|Ecole | purl needs a random food function |
| 18:56.08 | Shirik|Ecole | ~food |
| 18:56.09 | purl | methinks food is essential to life |
| 18:56.20 | Jelly-School | ~botsnack |
| 18:56.20 | purl | Jelly-School: thanks |
| 18:56.29 | cbreak | (my spelling is classified as type2 weapon) |
| 18:56.42 | Shirik|Ecole | so it's food |
| 18:56.52 | Shirik|Ecole | I mean cheese |
| 18:57.03 | Jelly-School | I mean food. |
| 18:57.04 | Lopeppeppy | Cheese is not food. |
| 18:57.06 | Jelly-School | And off-topic. |
| 18:57.17 | cbreak | a special type of cheese molten and put on potatoes. or other things :) |
| 18:57.22 | *** topic/#WoWUIDev by Shirik|Ecole -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.0.x ToC: 30000 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | "I really do need to get off" - Tem | Cheese |
| 18:57.25 | Shirik|Ecole | Not off topic now |
| 18:57.41 | Jelly-School | touche |
| 18:57.43 | Lopeppeppy | *grin* But still not food. |
| 18:57.59 | Shirik|Ecole | seriously! what food for me!! |
| 18:58.07 | *** topic/#WoWUIDev by Shirik|Ecole -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.0.x ToC: 30000 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | "I really do need to get off" - Tem |
| 18:58.15 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm hungry and suck at making decisions |
| 18:58.21 | cbreak | suisse cuisine isn't that elaborate... but try it :) |
| 18:58.22 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, I recommend a subs place. |
| 18:58.24 | NightHawkTheSane | why is cheese not food? |
| 18:58.31 | Shirik|Ecole | hm, subway |
| 18:58.32 | Lopeppeppy | NightHawkTheSane, it's a condiment. |
| 18:58.42 | NightHawkTheSane | why are condiments not food? |
| 18:58.51 | Shirik|Ecole | ~dict food |
| 18:58.52 | cbreak | american cheese might not be food... |
| 18:59.04 | NightHawkTheSane | cbreak: well, yeah, american cheese is flavored plasic. :p |
| 18:59.08 | NightHawkTheSane | plastic* |
| 18:59.15 | Shirik|Ecole | hey! |
| 18:59.19 | erikd | not wisconsin cheese |
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| 18:59.24 | erikd | maybe that crappy CA stuff |
| 18:59.25 | erikd | :P |
| 18:59.30 | Shirik|Ecole | Any american food is flavored plastic |
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| 18:59.33 | Shirik|Ecole | except steak |
| 18:59.36 | Jelly-School | Cheese can not be metabolized to create energy or tissue. :P |
| 18:59.39 | Shirik|Ecole | other countries don't have anything on our steak |
| 18:59.44 | cbreak | I read on digg that any american fast food is corn. |
| 18:59.49 | Movix | hahaha |
| 19:00.05 | cbreak | cheese is mostly fat... lots of energy... :) |
| 19:00.08 | Lopeppeppy | Mmmm.... philly cheese steak sub with extra cheese! |
| 19:00.14 | Shirik|Ecole | I might go get a tuna sub |
| 19:00.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: now that's food. :D |
| 19:00.33 | Jelly-School | Shirik: While I love a good steak as much as the next "red-blooded American" I will have to disagree with you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobe_beef <3 |
| 19:00.46 | Shirik|Ecole | I used to go to outback almost weekly |
| 19:00.49 | Jelly-School | cbreak: I was being an asshole |
| 19:01.06 | Lopeppeppy | Outback bread = fan-fucking-tastic. |
| 19:01.24 | Jelly-School | Outback anything but the bread = terribad |
| 19:01.41 | Shirik|Ecole | WTF |
| 19:01.46 | Shirik|Ecole | get victoria's filet |
| 19:01.47 | Shirik|Ecole | so good |
| 19:02.08 | Shirik|Ecole | I could live off Outback and Benihana's |
| 19:02.10 | Jelly-School | Sorry Shirik, I'm going to have to agree with myself |
| 19:02.13 | Shirik|Ecole | unfortunately that's not in my budget |
| 19:02.52 | Jelly-School | Go knock over a couple liquor stores. |
| 19:02.55 | cbreak | maybe a banana is in budget. |
| 19:03.13 | cbreak | you save on packaging :) |
| 19:03.38 | Jelly-School | Shirik: Then you could go chill with Lunessa and probably get a /real/ steak from some hole-in-the-wall steakhouse |
| 19:03.51 | Shirik|Ecole | ... |
| 19:03.59 | Shirik|Ecole | I am very sorry for your lack of tastebuds |
| 19:04.04 | Shirik|Ecole | can you get a handicapped permit for that? |
| 19:04.15 | Lopeppeppy | Banana bread! |
| 19:04.24 | Lunessa | Oh man... I know a great place for steak... at about $50/person. SO GOOD. |
| 19:04.30 | Industrial | what except mcdonalds is american food I ask you |
| 19:04.30 | Shirik|Ecole | now I see the reason for the "Do you consider yourself disabled?" question |
| 19:04.31 | Lopeppeppy | Do want. |
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| 19:04.32 | Industrial | :P |
| 19:04.39 | Jelly-School | I'm very sorry that you're equivalent of Pancho's Mexican Food is "great steaks" :P |
| 19:05.05 | Movix | come to france ! |
| 19:05.19 | Lopeppeppy | Be nice, guys. The bitchy level in this channel is going up as Wrath gets nearer. Don't make me ground you away from your game when it's released! |
| 19:05.21 | Industrial | dont come to the netherlands ! |
| 19:05.26 | Jelly-School | WRATH! |
| 19:05.32 | Industrial | dutch food sucks :P |
| 19:05.39 | Jelly-School | I went to France. |
| 19:05.41 | cladhaire | I disagree |
| 19:05.43 | Jelly-School | *shrug* |
| 19:05.46 | cladhaire | some dutch food is nom nom |
| 19:05.51 | cladhaire | specially spaced cake |
| 19:05.52 | Industrial | like what |
| 19:05.54 | Industrial | HAHA |
| 19:05.58 | NightHawkTheSane | spaced? |
| 19:05.59 | Jelly-School | By the way, "12:50LopeppeppyAgitator!" <3 |
| 19:05.59 | Industrial | yes, cept the green wares. |
| 19:06.01 | Lopeppeppy | Space cake!! |
| 19:06.11 | Lopeppeppy | Jelly-School, am so! |
| 19:06.13 | cladhaire | i dunno most of the food i had in dutchland was good! |
| 19:06.15 | cbreak | sounds very unhealthy. |
| 19:06.27 | Jelly-School | Never said I wasn't. :P |
| 19:06.35 | Industrial | i prefer mexican, asian or italian or greek |
| 19:06.43 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, I thought you were saying I was, I was agreeing. |
| 19:06.59 | Industrial | greek food > * |
| 19:07.30 | Movix | greek very salty ! |
| 19:07.48 | Lopeppeppy | Many olives. |
| 19:08.11 | Lopeppeppy | Para kalo tho se mu. I can't spell it, but I can say it. I think I said I want milk. I could have asked for a dogburger though. |
| 19:09.19 | Movix | so the dungeon and raid textures are definitly a way of abstracting the names language !! YES ! |
| 19:09.39 | Lopeppeppy | Sure! |
| 19:09.50 | cbreak | Movix: hack! |
| 19:10.01 | Movix | ? |
| 19:10.12 | cbreak | that's so convoluted it's almost elegant again :) |
| 19:10.28 | Jelly-School | Off-Topic! |
| 19:10.34 | Movix | sorry i did not understand |
| 19:10.36 | Shirik|Ecole | Let's talk about convolution! |
| 19:10.49 | Jelly-School | Off-Topic! |
| 19:11.01 | Movix | my post is O T ? |
| 19:11.11 | Jelly-School | No. Shirik is! |
| 19:11.15 | Movix | ah ok |
| 19:11.22 | Jelly-School | He is NOT talking about cheese or ... Tem! |
| 19:11.32 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm talking about digital signal processing |
| 19:11.43 | Lopeppeppy | That's always good fun. |
| 19:12.00 | Lopeppeppy | Oh. I finally watched a few episodes of The Guild on Sunday. |
| 19:12.12 | Jelly-School | I'm talking about .. well, I'm not really talking. Hmm. I bet there's some homework I'm not doing. |
| 19:12.36 | Shirik|Ecole | I bet there's some food I'm not eating |
| 19:12.45 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, go get lunch before you starve. |
| 19:13.00 | Jelly-School | Seriously. |
| 19:13.13 | Jelly-School | You're like 6'4" at what? a buck-twenty? Go eat! |
| 19:14.22 | Shirik|Ecole | >< |
| 19:14.40 | Lopeppeppy | 6'4" ? Hmm, I think shorter than that. |
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| 19:14.49 | Shirik|Ecole | I agree |
| 19:14.52 | Shirik|Ecole | not quite that tall |
| 19:15.08 | Jelly-School | Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't get to actually meet him. |
| 19:15.21 | Shirik|Ecole | SHOULD TRY HARDER NEXT TIME TO GET TICKET |
| 19:15.23 | Jelly-School | But I do remember him asking me not to murder him in his sleep if we were to share a hotel room. |
| 19:15.23 | Shirik|Ecole | rawr |
| 19:15.28 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 19:15.31 | Jelly-School | YES! SUCCESS! |
| 19:15.45 | Shirik|Ecole | success! |
| 19:15.50 | Tem | what in the HELL are you guys talking about? |
| 19:16.16 | Jelly-School | DoublePlusImportant stuff. |
| 19:16.43 | Movix | hmmmm, the textures are not the way !! :( |
| 19:16.51 | Lopeppeppy | I only murder people if they are asleep. Keeps down the blood splatter, I find. |
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| 19:17.29 | Jelly-School | Lunessa/Peppy: So I think I was getting a little too ... carried away with the UI idea last night. I need to KISS (keep it simple stupid) so I think I'm going to rethink it tonight when I get home. |
| 19:18.03 | Lopeppeppy | Nooo! |
| 19:18.12 | bleeter | YESSSS |
| 19:18.36 | Lunessa | Jelly-School: No animated widgets galore? |
| 19:18.40 | Jelly-School | Peppy: I don't know how to animate it so I don't think that will exactly work. |
| 19:18.58 | Jelly-School | Lunessa: No. I'm too dumb and no one can show me an example that makes sense to me. |
| 19:19.25 | Shirik|Ecole | That's a great idea Jelly-School |
| 19:19.33 | Shirik|Ecole | think you can make a skin for Conspiracy for KISS? |
| 19:19.36 | Shirik|Ecole | the band? |
| 19:19.39 | Lunessa | Jelly-School: The math kicks my ass too. |
| 19:19.50 | Lopeppeppy | Jelly, what on earth were you animating? |
| 19:19.51 | Jelly-School | I really with Elloria would come in here. She's got the Photoshop know how that I think I need. |
| 19:19.53 | Movix | there a some raids with no assigned texture and a default texture is taken |
| 19:20.12 | Jelly-School | COGS AND GEARS AND FANS AND STEAM! |
| 19:20.15 | Shirik|Ecole | It's more fun when a 3D model is loaded that doesn't exist |
| 19:20.31 | Shirik|Ecole | taurens with blue and white cubes as heads |
| 19:20.32 | Shirik|Ecole | now that's fun |
| 19:20.34 | Lopeppeppy | Jelly... no animation, love. Just pretty pictures. |
| 19:21.11 | bleeter | 'when realm be available' lololol... translation = 'it can has be coffee times' |
| 19:21.23 | Jelly-School | Lunessa: I bet Shirik could do the math for me. ... and I can cook a mean ass steak. TRADE IMO |
| 19:21.34 | Lopeppeppy | Barter is good. |
| 19:22.14 | Lunessa | Good trade too. |
| 19:22.16 | Shirik|Ecole | math? |
| 19:22.17 | Shirik|Ecole | what math? |
| 19:22.21 | Shirik|Ecole | 1+1=3 yes |
| 19:22.30 | Jelly-School | 2+2=5, says O'Brien. |
| 19:22.37 | Lunessa | Steak + Shiner. |
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| 19:22.58 | Shirik|Ecole | well, 2=1, therefore 1+1=3 |
| 19:22.59 | bleeter | Jelly-School: 2+2 does = 5 |
| 19:23.00 | Lunessa | Shirik|Ecole: Texture rotations using SetTextCoords |
| 19:23.03 | bleeter | yeah |
| 19:23.05 | bleeter | big values of 2 |
| 19:23.14 | Jelly-School | The Shiner can be done but I'll be having a Blue Moon |
| 19:23.18 | bleeter | can even make it 6 if you try real hard |
| 19:23.23 | Shirik|Ecole | just use matrix mulitplication |
| 19:23.25 | Shirik|Ecole | it's fairly easy |
| 19:23.36 | Jelly-School | Well, write an idiot's guide and email it to me plox. < |
| 19:23.37 | Jelly-School | 3 |
| 19:23.41 | Kraps | Arthas Menethil, Ner'zhul and the LK are the same person? |
| 19:23.50 | Shirik|Ecole | what is the transform matrix, [[sin(x) 1] [1 cos(x)]] I think? |
| 19:24.01 | Jelly-School | Yeah. My face just exploded. |
| 19:24.17 | Shirik|Ecole | oh wow I was way off |
| 19:24.36 | Shirik|Ecole | [[ cos(x) -sin(x) ] [ sin(x) cos(x) ] ] |
| 19:24.49 | zenzelezz | fail |
| 19:24.52 | Shirik|Ecole | so here's what you do Jelly-School |
| 19:24.59 | Shirik|Ecole | If you have some coordinate [x y] |
| 19:24.59 | Jelly-School | Wow. How could you screw that up, Shirik? |
| 19:25.06 | Shirik|Ecole | you can multiply it by a matrix to get the rotated coordinates |
| 19:25.07 | Jelly-School | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:25.17 | zenzelezz | Kraps: not entirely. Arthas Menethil and Ner'zhul were not the same person, but they merged into the Lich King |
| 19:25.51 | Kraps | ah |
| 19:25.51 | Shirik|Ecole | [[a] [b]] = [[ cos(x) -sin(x) ] [sin(x) cos(x) ]] * [[x] [y]] |
| 19:25.53 | Shirik|Ecole | Where x and y are the untransformed coordinates, and a and b are the rotated coordinates |
| 19:26.03 | Jelly-School | Yup. Face is gone again. |
| 19:26.06 | Shirik|Ecole | and x is the angle you wish to rotate |
| 19:26.16 | Shirik|Ecole | oh please this is easy |
| 19:26.23 | Shirik|Ecole | You should have seen the matrix I wrote up for Crayola |
| 19:26.34 | Shirik|Ecole | 8x8 matrix to calculate a 4x4 matrix to perform perspective correction |
| 19:26.44 | Jelly-School | Congratulations? |
| 19:26.52 | Shirik|Ecole | This is kid stuff! |
| 19:27.06 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm going to go get something to eat, I'll explain better later, kk? |
| 19:27.31 | Jelly-School | k |
| 19:29.01 | Shirik|Ecole | this is so confusing |
| 19:29.05 | Shirik|Ecole | my transcript looks jacked up now |
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| 19:29.20 | Shirik|Ecole | up at the top it lists my old grades, starting with |
| 19:29.21 | Shirik|Ecole | *** Fall 2005 *** (08/29/05 - 12/16/05) BS Computer Engineering |
| 19:29.37 | Shirik|Ecole | Then under my details, it shows when I "applied" to the university |
| 19:29.49 | Shirik|Ecole | APP STAT..: Deposited/Regular STAT DATE: 11/06/2008 APPL DATE: 11/06/2008 |
| 19:29.50 | cbreak | I use rotations of textures in one of my addons. I use this function: http://pastebin.com/d339d9cb1 |
| 19:30.20 | mikma | is that a good thing |
| 19:30.21 | Shirik|Ecole | ANT START: 09/SP |
| 19:30.21 | Lopeppeppy | Happy Lun-aversary! |
| 19:30.38 | foxlit | cbreak: real people do affine transforms in their heads. |
| 19:31.05 | cbreak | I don't want to put my head into the addon, that would only needlessly increase the archive size |
| 19:31.24 | Shirik|Ecole | but it would decrease the CPU load |
| 19:31.33 | Lunessa | foxlit: Just because you do a zillion of them in OPie... |
| 19:31.35 | foxlit | Get some RLE on it, and it'll only take a few bytes, np. |
| 19:32.17 | cbreak | RLE doesn't work on non linear data. |
| 19:32.21 | Fisker- | Shirik|Ecole |
| 19:32.25 | Fisker- | my core is still bigger than yours |
| 19:32.25 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 19:32.33 | foxlit | I'm suggesting your head is linear. |
| 19:33.04 | foxlit | In fact, I'm probably suggesting that it's all filled with 0s :) |
| 19:33.17 | cbreak | it's not even binary. |
| 19:33.26 | cbreak | I have an original all-matter head |
| 19:33.32 | cbreak | consisting of matter. |
| 19:33.49 | foxlit | That just can't be practical. |
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| 19:35.15 | Jelly-School | It's funny listening to this guy behind me trying to talk this girl into "taking a break" with him. lol |
| 19:35.41 | zenzelezz | give Shirik a break Jelly :( |
| 19:35.57 | Jelly-School | aww |
| 19:36.00 | Jelly-School | ~hug Shirik |
| 19:36.00 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Shirik |
| 19:36.11 | foxlit | It's np, he can explain 3D coordinate system transforms when he comes back. |
| 19:37.12 | cbreak | those are nasty :/ |
| 19:37.26 | cbreak | stupid homogenous coordinate systems... |
| 19:38.27 | cbreak | quaternions were a bit better... but not much |
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| 19:43.36 | Jelly-School | ok guys. time to go take (fail) a sociology test. ily |
| 19:44.02 | bleeter | ~comfort Jelly-School |
| 19:44.03 | purl | There, there, Jelly-School. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
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| 19:45.54 | Maldivia | hmm... wotlk installers available as a torrent - non-official though |
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| 19:49.56 | haste | stores already have the game so |
| 19:50.52 | cbreak | perfect place to place a trojan horse in. |
| 19:55.23 | NightHawkTheSane | this game is fairly amusing: http://www.gamereclaim.com/2008/10/128/ |
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| 20:05.49 | Lyn | mikma, http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n311/boko52/KFC.gif |
| 20:08.32 | mikma | lyn: if it's not lederhosen, i'm gonna be disappointed! |
| 20:08.49 | Lyn | it is JORDIE LAFORGE! |
| 20:08.58 | Lyn | or i think he is |
| 20:09.00 | Lyn | Oo |
| 20:09.04 | Lyn | not that big trekkie |
| 20:09.19 | mikma | i could pimp my nokia n810 to look like that, but, meh |
| 20:09.39 | Lyn | xD |
| 20:09.51 | mikma | let's see if i can find a screenshot for you |
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| 20:10.58 | mikma | lyn: http://synthesize.us/images/6/6a/Okuda_home_photo.jpg |
| 20:11.15 | Lyn | NAIS! |
| 20:11.22 | Lyn | looks funny |
| 20:11.43 | mikma | i like this default more: http://mikma.reaktio.net/maemo/test1.png |
| 20:12.22 | mikma | lyn: http://synthesize.us/LCARS_PADD <- nais indeed |
| 20:12.35 | Lyn | i've found an lcars ubuntu login and gtk2 skin |
| 20:15.02 | erikd | i never understood lcars themes |
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| 20:18.11 | erikd | mmm, november is going to feel like an entire month off work |
| 20:18.28 | erikd | 3 day week this week, 4 day week next week and a 3 day week the week after |
| 20:19.49 | mikma | lyn: http://kuvaton.com/bshit/kenkat_kuluu.gif |
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| 20:20.36 | mikma | haste: UH! New House today! |
| 20:21.28 | mikma | lyn: http://apina.nwpshost.com/10584.jpg (usa people don't even bother) |
| 20:21.41 | Lyn | LOL @ gif |
| 20:22.35 | Lyn | and lol @ lego |
| 20:22.52 | mikma | wobin was impressed about the lego :D |
| 20:24.08 | Lyn | i love that gif lol |
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| 20:26.12 | Lunessa | I killed the forums. :( |
| 20:26.53 | nevcairiel | how dare you |
| 20:27.20 | Lunessa | It was easy. I slipped a tablet into its coffee. |
| 20:28.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Lyn: a) it's "Geordi", i believe. and b) no, it's not. *cough* >.> |
| 20:28.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: and we all thank you for it |
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| 20:28.46 | Lyn | NightHawkTheSane, :( |
| 20:28.50 | Lyn | NightHawkTheSane, TREKKIE!!! |
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| 20:29.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Lyn: yes, and? :) |
| 20:29.24 | Lyn | not bad :D |
| 20:29.26 | Shirik|Ecole | rawr |
| 20:29.32 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 20:29.37 | Shirik|Ecole | NHTS is a trekkie? |
| 20:29.38 | Shirik|Ecole | Voyager? |
| 20:29.49 | Lyn | mikma, http://kuvaton.com/bshit/wraolqbfw6ghzbzydfsqtctc_500.gif haha that rocks |
| 20:30.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik|Ecole: i'm a tng/ds9 fan myself, voyager was "alright" |
| 20:31.10 | Shirik|Ecole | voyager was amazing |
| 20:31.15 | Shirik|Ecole | though tng/ds9 weren't bad either |
| 20:31.30 | NightHawkTheSane | voyager got a lot better as it went on, it started off really weak, though. |
| 20:31.39 | Shirik|Ecole | you can't dis tng when the rest of the series..es wouldn't be there without it |
| 20:31.57 | NightHawkTheSane | eah |
| 20:31.59 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah* |
| 20:32.09 | Shirik|Ecole | what's the plural of series? |
| 20:32.17 | smcn | series |
| 20:32.32 | Shirik|Ecole | that can't be right |
| 20:32.38 | zenzelezz | yes it can |
| 20:32.40 | Shirik|Ecole | there's no way to tell what I mean when I say "The rest of the series" |
| 20:32.53 | zenzelezz | when did that ever stop the English language? |
| 20:32.54 | NightHawkTheSane | just like there's no way to tell when you say "the rest of the fish" |
| 20:32.58 | Shirik|Ecole | no |
| 20:33.01 | Shirik|Ecole | because you can tell that's plural |
| 20:33.03 | bleeter | 'rest of the sheep' |
| 20:33.03 | Shirik|Ecole | from context |
| 20:33.06 | NightHawkTheSane | is it? |
| 20:33.07 | Shirik|Ecole | same. |
| 20:33.11 | Shirik|Ecole | You can't be referring to one sheep or fish |
| 20:33.13 | zenzelezz | Shirik|Ecole: what happened to the fish? |
| 20:33.14 | Shirik|Ecole | "the rest" implies it |
| 20:33.16 | NightHawkTheSane | "i have the head here, but i don't know what to do with the rest of the fish" |
| 20:33.21 | Shirik|Ecole | ... |
| 20:33.23 | Shirik|Ecole | fine |
| 20:33.26 | zenzelezz | Shirik|Ecole: was that sentence singular or plural? |
| 20:33.32 | Shirik|Ecole | is still stupid |
| 20:33.35 | smcn | "It is an irregular plural noun. Which means the same word is used for both the singular and the plural - like fish or headquarters." |
| 20:33.46 | smcn | first google result ;P |
| 20:33.46 | zenzelezz | Shirik|Ecole: you're just looking for an excuse to call it "serii", admit it |
| 20:33.51 | Shirik|Ecole | yup |
| 20:33.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik|Ecole: no argument there :p |
| 20:33.57 | Shirik|Ecole | serii is awesome |
| 20:34.03 | smcn | or how about sereis |
| 20:34.04 | mikma | lyn: here, i found a new avatar for you! http://apina.nwpshost.com/10441.gif |
| 20:34.05 | bleeter | just like fora =)) |
| 20:34.52 | mikma | also, ALL HAIL TECHNOVIKING! http://rantapallo.apina.biz/10377.gif |
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| 20:35.39 | hipjipp | Evening crowd =) |
| 20:36.26 | hipjipp | No-one awake in here? |
| 20:36.29 | zenzelezz | silence must be heard |
| 20:37.15 | zenzelezz | ... |
| 20:37.17 | mikma | be quiet you! |
| 20:37.23 | hipjipp | never! |
| 20:37.23 | zenzelezz | what's with all the CTCPs? |
| 20:37.25 | Lyn | mikma, awesome |
| 20:37.42 | Lyn | mikma, can i use such a big avatar on ace? |
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| 20:38.36 | mikma | err, who cares about wowace :D |
| 20:38.41 | Lunessa | General Error? |
| 20:38.50 | hipjipp | any decent coder willing to help me resolve two issues i've been having with my mods? |
| 20:39.06 | kneeki | hipjipp: Don't ask to ask |
| 20:39.12 | Thunder_Child | why are you looking for a decent coder here? |
| 20:39.28 | hipjipp | Thunder_Child: how so? :P |
| 20:39.28 | mikma | lyn: http://eurodance.irc-galleria.net/this/trinket/8/trinket_107548.gif <- house-fans ahoy! |
| 20:39.36 | Lyn | YEAH! |
| 20:39.37 | Lyn | lol |
| 20:39.44 | Thunder_Child | hipjipp, that was my general bee an ass statement |
| 20:39.51 | Thunder_Child | be* |
| 20:39.52 | bleeter | ~asktoask |
| 20:39.52 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 20:39.56 | kneeki | mikma: hahahaha |
| 20:40.13 | bleeter | wish there was the qualifying 'if they can' at the end of that |
| 20:40.31 | kd3 | oh geez. what'd they do to the mail system? |
| 20:40.42 | NightHawkTheSane | broke it, apparently. |
| 20:41.17 | Shirik|Ecole | I HATE ONLINE REGISTRATION |
| 20:41.19 | NightHawkTheSane | bleeter: it's purl.. change it. |
| 20:41.33 | Thunder_Child | so do it in person Shirik|Ecole |
| 20:41.39 | Shirik|Ecole | Closed today |
| 20:41.56 | Thunder_Child | do it tomorrow? |
| 20:42.06 | Shirik|Ecole | Spring 2009 UNSUCCESSFUL registration: MA_412_02DB (121371) Probability and Statistics: MA_412_02DB - Course MA_412 prerequisites have not been started. |
| 20:42.09 | Shirik|Ecole | I always get stupid stuff like this |
| 20:42.18 | Shirik|Ecole | because I got highschool credit for the prerequisite |
| 20:42.30 | bleeter | kd3: hopefully sent me everyone's stuffs |
| 20:42.33 | hipjipp | coders: since 3.0.3 my addon broke to not show at login, it works overall, but just not on login.. :< |
| 20:42.35 | hipjipp | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/101568 |
| 20:43.17 | Shirik|Ecole | It also yells at me for having a Flight Medical Hold |
| 20:43.21 | Shirik|Ecole | when I register for software classes... |
| 20:43.27 | Shirik|Ecole | because software is definitely flight-related |
| 20:43.52 | mikma | dear lord hahahahaha |
| 20:44.04 | mikma | in san francisco prison they found a handgrenade from prisoners ass |
| 20:44.12 | Shirik|Ecole | ... |
| 20:44.50 | hipjipp | meh.. i don't believe in ircs ask-to-ask policy... =/ |
| 20:45.07 | kneeki | hipjipp: What is it not doing on load? |
| 20:45.09 | Shirik|Ecole | Oh this is awesome |
| 20:45.11 | kneeki | err, login* |
| 20:45.33 | mikma | shirik|ecole: want some NSFshirik pastes? |
| 20:45.34 | Shirik|Ecole | Unable to register for CEC-421 (senior design) because a prerequisite is EE420... We don't even HAVE an ee420... |
| 20:45.43 | Shirik|Ecole | The prerequisite is CEC 420! |
| 20:45.44 | Shirik|Ecole | gah |
| 20:45.59 | bleeter | Shirik|Ecole: you SURE you're not going to the University of Tasmania? sure as heck sounds like it from that crap :/ |
| 20:46.07 | hipjipp | kneeki: its supposed to create a small viewport witch resizes with the chatframe (mainly built for chicchai), and 3.0.3 broke that |
| 20:46.08 | Shirik|Ecole | I wouldn't be surprised |
| 20:47.17 | zenzelezz | Shirik|Ecole: you wouldn't br surprised if you were going to the University of Tasmania? |
| 20:47.22 | Shirik|Ecole | yup |
| 20:48.01 | hipjipp | kneeki: its working overall, but just not on login... :< |
| 20:48.44 | NightHawkTheSane | fetus cookie cutter! http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/11/you_gonna_eat_that_2 |
| 20:49.29 | bleeter | wasn't some weirdness wrt addons and login observed in 3.0.3? I've not been on IRC lately, dunno what was confirmed etc. |
| 20:49.34 | kneeki | hipjipp: Did you put a dump to the chat window to make sure that its firing through your :renew? |
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| 20:50.32 | hipjipp | kneeki: i'm absolutely terrible (witch is a major understatement) at print/dump functions, so feel free to help me out there.. :P |
| 20:50.44 | Shirik|Ecole | Am I evil for chuckling at this? |
| 20:50.46 | Shirik|Ecole | Title: Mdrn Middle East World Affairs, Course Section Number: SS_336_01DB |
| 20:50.46 | Shirik|Ecole | Faculty name: Mohamed S. Camara |
| 20:50.53 | kneeki | hipjipp: DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("It fired") |
| 20:51.27 | hipjipp | kneeki: i thought you meant some kind of print function.. :P |
| 20:51.32 | kneeki | that is |
| 20:51.36 | Shirik|Ecole | kneeki: ... use print |
| 20:51.44 | kneeki | print("it worked") |
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| 20:52.07 | hipjipp | kneeki: i'll try.. |
| 20:57.03 | hipjipp | kneeki: it wont fire anything on the first initial login, after that if prints what happens, even though new fires twice and then renew fires, in the same second.. =/ |
| 20:57.10 | hipjipp | quite frustrating.. :< |
| 20:57.44 | kneeki | because that event is firing more than once |
| 20:57.56 | kneeki | do a check to see if it's loaded with a local variable |
| 20:58.17 | kneeki | like, local created = false in the first line of your mod |
| 20:58.37 | kneeki | then in your event handler: if fired = false then createStuff else renewStuff end |
| 20:59.19 | hipjipp | nice idea, i'll try it anyway.. :P |
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| 23:16.40 | bleeter | so, I was just wondering.. how strong are the false advertising laws in the US? |
| 23:17.01 | bleeter | 'coz I might go buy a ticket to fly to NZ to buy Wrath tomorrow, then sue blizz if it's not available until the 14th |
| 23:17.06 | bleeter | :p |
| 23:17.27 | NightHawkTheSane | that wouldn't hold water. :p |
| 23:17.39 | bleeter | 'coz their ad says australia on the 14th,nothing about NZ, singapore, malaysia, thailand etc. |
| 23:18.15 | bleeter | well, truthfully speaking, the clarification for australians is an impossible date.. so maybe we'll just never be allowed to buy it |
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| 23:18.30 | NightHawkTheSane | with luck :D |
| 23:19.56 | galf_ | Does anyone know if there is a addon that works for 3.0 that tracks party member cooldowns? Only ones I can find are old 2.4 ones that dont work |
| 23:20.16 | AbsoRayne | Cant. Stop. Yawning. @_@ |
| 23:20.56 | AbsoRayne | Should probably take this time to update Cherry Boxes at least... |
| 23:21.13 | AbsoRayne | Just i could get some more feedback though :s |
| 23:21.18 | NightHawkTheSane | i want my mail. :( |
| 23:21.46 | bleeter | MINE |
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| 23:27.54 | bleeter | so did slouken get away for his holiday yet? |
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| 23:31.48 | Neuro_Medivh | Don't suppose there's any way to use the Beta Client for the released game, eh? Would save on install time |
| 23:32.22 | bleeter | could try copying the .mpqs and the like, then using the live client's repair |
| 23:32.35 | bleeter | if it bitches it needs to complete download again, just cancel |
| 23:32.57 | bleeter | but as you'd till need to install Live to get the repair |
| 23:33.13 | bleeter | unless Blizz manage to get the repair on their FTP site in speedy time... etc. etc. |
| 23:33.19 | Neuro_Medivh | eh, I'll just cheat and dl one of these ISO files |
| 23:33.24 | bleeter | or if you have a mac, no chance ;) |
| 23:34.36 | erikd | do they have iso's available for wotlk? one of my guildies doesn't have a dvd drive and since they might not have the client up for download he might be screwed |
| 23:34.42 | erikd | if he could get an iso he'd be set |
| 23:34.58 | Dewin | It's a DVD? Cripes. |
| 23:35.06 | erikd | yeah |
| 23:35.10 | Dewin | oh wait, I finally gave my wife a DVD drive, nvm :) |
| 23:35.12 | erikd | dvd only |
| 23:35.16 | Neuro_Medivh | yeah, on piratebay there's a Euro and a US iso up |
| 23:35.19 | Dewin | I used to have to share them out and have her install over the network. |
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| 23:36.57 | Neuro_Medivh | hopefully, this way I can just buy the game, come home, upgrade the account, and be ready to go |
| 23:37.33 | Lunessa | http://howto.wired.com/wiki/Make_Cake_in_a_Mug |
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| 23:39.09 | Dewin | yummy |
| 23:39.14 | Dewin | too bad my wife can't handle chocolate |
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| 23:40.23 | Neuro_Medivh | a woman who can't handle chocolate? |
| 23:40.29 | Neuro_Medivh | does such a creature exist? |
| 23:40.31 | Lopeppeppy | Nope. |
| 23:40.35 | Lopeppeppy | If she does, I'll take her share. |
| 23:40.36 | AbsoRayne | Neuro_Medivh: Im in shock myself! |
| 23:40.43 | Dewin | She's allergic to it :-/ |
| 23:40.46 | AbsoRayne | Lopeppeppy: Bwah! <3 |
| 23:40.56 | Dewin | She can handle small amounts but anything beyond and she gets sick |
| 23:40.59 | Lopeppeppy | allergic is one thing, "can't handle" is different! :) |
| 23:41.03 | Dewin | White chocolate is okay however |
| 23:41.15 | keias | My mom was the same way. |
| 23:41.17 | Neuro_Medivh | I have a friend who is allergic to chocolate, doesn't mean he doesn't still eat it |
| 23:41.18 | Lopeppeppy | 'cause it's not chocolate, it's an abomination. :) |
| 23:41.31 | cbreak | I agree. |
| 23:41.38 | cbreak | I like it, but it's not chocolate. |
| 23:41.56 | AbsoRayne | Lopeppeppy: Not even strawberry? :( |
| 23:42.05 | Lunessa | You know... I need to get a microwave JUST so I can make that damned cake. |
| 23:42.32 | Dewin | The funny thing is, she can handle the 'chocolate' they use on the $1 sundaes at McDonalds just fine |
| 23:42.42 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, strawberries..... |
| 23:43.30 | cbreak | Dewin: maybe McDonalds doesn't use chocolate... *conspiracy music* |
| 23:43.31 | AbsoRayne | :D |
| 23:43.41 | Dewin | cbreak: There's a reason I used quotes. |
| 23:45.51 | Dewin | ETA: 3d 2h |
| 23:45.52 | Dewin | Hmm. |
| 23:46.26 | Dewin | well, my otherETA is 1d 8h 15m sooo |
| 23:48.30 | Neuro_Medivh | they'll speed up as more people complete |
| 23:49.50 | Dewin | Possibly |
| 23:49.52 | Dewin | ... |
| 23:49.58 | Dewin | my download just went from 80kbps to 400kbps |
| 23:50.01 | Dewin | but my ETA went *up*? |
| 23:50.22 | Dewin | hah comcast, very funny |
| 23:50.41 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, I always tell you that you're a crazy, wonderful person. Now, I am in twooo wuf! |
| 23:51.07 | Lunessa | Wuf, twue wuff. |
| 23:52.18 | Dewin | All realms down? <achmed>Ohhh, this is not good.</achmed> |
| 23:52.31 | bleeter | ~impressiveclergyman |
| 23:52.31 | purl | Mawage. Mawage is wot bwings us togeder tooday. Mawage, that bwessed awangment, that dweam wifin a dweam... And wuv, tru wuv, will fowow you foweva... So tweasure your wuv. |
| 23:52.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Dewin: realms down and mail is in limbo! |
| 23:52.51 | Dewin | NightHawkTheSane: Well, they said mail is in limbo, didn't say it was in such limbo I couldn't even log in to not have any |
| 23:53.06 | erikd | what's a good bt client for linux? |
| 23:53.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Dewin: well, they have to fix it somehow, and thats not going to happen with the realms up |
| 23:53.14 | NightHawkTheSane | erikd: rtorrent is nice, i hear |
| 23:53.15 | bleeter | cat ALL_UR_MAILZ > /dev/bleeters_inbox |
| 23:53.21 | Dewin | erikd: what Night said. |
| 23:53.26 | erikd | k, thanks :) |
| 23:53.53 | NightHawkTheSane | I've been meaning to get rtorrent installed on this box, but i'm really lazy. |
| 23:54.04 | Dewin | I use utorrent on windows so ;) |
| 23:54.16 | erikd | oooh, rtorrent is console based |
| 23:54.19 | erikd | i like |
| 23:54.35 | Lunessa | Seriously, I should never have chosen today to update my vista article. |
| 23:54.36 | NightHawkTheSane | indeed. there are GUIs for it |
| 23:54.46 | erikd | pfft, who needs a gui? |
| 23:54.51 | NightHawkTheSane | just saying, is all ;) |
| 23:54.56 | ajmitch | lazy people like me? |
| 23:54.58 | cbreak | Transmission. Works. |
| 23:55.18 | NightHawkTheSane | transmission is okay, i've had some odd issues with it on certain trackers |
| 23:55.47 | NightHawkTheSane | its what i'm using currently, but only because im too lazy to get rtorrent working with a GUI, and azureus on the mac blows |
| 23:56.06 | Dewin | azureus blows, no "on the mac" required :) |
| 23:56.23 | NightHawkTheSane | well, true, i just didn't want to speak too far outside my experience ;) |
| 23:57.00 | Dewin | granted, I used to use getright's torrent client |
| 23:57.35 | bleeter | whoa, gmail finally added jingle support? |
| 23:59.08 | Dewin | jingle? |
| 23:59.18 | bleeter | xmpp voice/video |
| 23:59.28 | Dewin | hm |
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