| 00:00.18 | Dewin | wasd is just weird in a game that's not first-person or near first person |
| 00:00.28 | foxlit | WoW? |
| 00:00.51 | Dewin | that's what I meant by near-first-person |
| 00:01.09 | foxlit | Fable's over-the-shoulders view is more or less the same thing as WoW's camera. |
| 00:01.22 | Dewin | I don't remember fable being over the shoudlers |
| 00:01.28 | foxlit | Actually, you're right. |
| 00:01.46 | foxlit | You could get a free-roaming camera around you for vanity purposes, but that was it. |
| 00:02.06 | foxlit | Think actual combat and stuff were first person. |
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| 00:02.21 | Dewin | I remember it being more of moving yourself around the map. |
| 00:02.32 | Dewin | i.e. you move in the world, rather than the world revolves around you ;) |
| 00:02.35 | foxlit | http://www.trustedreviews.com/images/article/inline/1944-image1.jpg |
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| 00:02.59 | Dewin | that's fable 1 or fable 2? |
| 00:03.06 | foxlit | TLC |
| 00:03.07 | foxlit | So 1 |
| 00:04.27 | foxlit | So it's wow's camera style after all |
| 00:05.17 | Dewin | hmm |
| 00:05.21 | Dewin | "Scientists Turn Tequila Into Diamonds" |
| 00:05.31 | Dewin | great. As if alcohol wasn't overpriced enough already. |
| 00:05.46 | Dewin | I look forward to our Shane Company Liquor Stores. |
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| 00:06.27 | Dewin | ( http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/11/07/2016240&from=rss ) |
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| 00:13.45 | cbreak | diamonds are rather cheap |
| 00:13.53 | cbreak | if you buy artificially created ones |
| 00:14.08 | cbreak | only the real ones are expensive due to DeBeer's Cartell. |
| 00:14.52 | Lopeppeppy | And diamonds have gone down in price in recent years, as colored stones have gotten more popular. |
| 00:15.22 | cbreak | I like diamonds because they are hard. |
| 00:15.35 | cbreak | but if I wanted a stone for the looks I'd chose Onyx |
| 00:17.57 | Lopeppeppy | I'm fond of emerald. |
| 00:18.00 | cbreak | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_vapor_deposition_of_diamond |
| 00:18.19 | Dewin | well, the only real jewelry I've purchased was my wife's wedding & engagement ring (both white gold), and then a silver necklace (I was too cheap to buy gold, and my intent was that she had somewhere to wear her rings when she was doing massage work) |
| 00:18.20 | cbreak | (very cool, diamond coated cooling for CPUs or similar things are possible) |
| 00:18.36 | cbreak | silver is more beautiful than gold anyway. |
| 00:19.04 | Dewin | Yeah, but silver wedding ring just seems weird :) |
| 00:19.06 | Dewin | so white gold ftw |
| 00:19.41 | Lopeppeppy | I have a gold ring, but it's 10K so that I couldn't bend it with the hard work I was doing with my hands at the time. |
| 00:20.05 | Lopeppeppy | I got unending crap because I hadn't demanded higher quality gold. *rolls eyes* Get the jewelery you like, and the rest of the world can go hang. |
| 00:20.39 | Dewin | Well, the reason for necklace wasn't concern for the rings being damaged but more concerned for the fact that diamonds aren't exactly something you want crushed into your back in the middle of a massage ;) |
| 00:20.44 | cbreak | The only jewelery I would consider buying are watches... |
| 00:20.59 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: should've just told them you're not as shallow as the they are |
| 00:21.18 | Dewin | I wear my wedding ring and that's it. Neither me nor my wife (thank god) are big on jewelry. |
| 00:22.39 | Shirik | I had a nice watch for a while |
| 00:22.46 | Shirik | it disappeared |
| 00:23.00 | Shirik | other than that, I has nothing |
| 00:23.03 | NightHawkTheSane | speaking of which, i've got this nice watch.. |
| 00:23.04 | NightHawkTheSane | ;) |
| 00:23.07 | Shirik | die |
| 00:23.23 | Lopeppeppy | I need a new watch. Tomorrow I will achieve one, just you wait and see. |
| 00:23.32 | zenzelezz | I feel naked when I'm not wearing a wristwatch |
| 00:23.33 | Dewin | watches are overrated. |
| 00:23.36 | NightHawkTheSane | i actually don't like watches. |
| 00:23.45 | cbreak | !!? |
| 00:24.10 | Dewin | my cellphone works perfectly fine. I also occasionally actually make phone calls. |
| 00:24.12 | cbreak | just look at that miracle of technology: http://www.omega.ch/index.php?id=303 |
| 00:24.38 | Dashkal | I haven't worn a watch in years. I keep it in my pocket |
| 00:24.42 | zenzelezz | cellphones are harder to carry on your wrist, and need recharging all the time |
| 00:25.33 | mikma | heh |
| 00:25.51 | mikma | i still carry my nit and/or phone with me |
| 00:25.57 | foxlit | meh, no digital indication |
| 00:25.59 | foxlit | failomega! |
| 00:26.07 | cbreak | omega rocks |
| 00:26.26 | cbreak | they are certified for space flight by nasa :) |
| 00:26.26 | mikma | alpha, beta, gamma, delta.... |
| 00:26.32 | cbreak | (not that many people will use it) |
| 00:27.05 | foxlit | "Factose Intolerant" |
| 00:27.12 | Dewin | ... lol. |
| 00:27.58 | Dewin | ... nevermind |
| 00:29.07 | mikma | purl: foxlit is Factose Intolerant |
| 00:29.07 | purl | okay, mikma |
| 00:30.34 | foxlit | http://www.casio-europe.com/euro/images/watch/detail/WVA-107HE-1A2VER.jpg |
| 00:30.50 | cbreak | bah. Electronic crap. |
| 00:30.56 | cbreak | A real watch is mechanical. |
| 00:31.10 | foxlit | Good luck with that :) |
| 00:31.17 | Dewin | real geeks use http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/watches/6a17/ |
| 00:31.34 | Dewin | I can't find the wristworn sundial that I saw on thinkgeek awhile back |
| 00:32.22 | cbreak | I love omega watches. Despite me not being able to afford one :( |
| 00:32.26 | Shirik | I love gdb |
| 00:32.42 | Shirik | I'm all pissy about how my program isn't working. I don't even have to DO anything and it tells me what my problem is |
| 00:32.49 | Shirik | warning: Source file is more recent than executable. |
| 00:33.04 | cbreak | you need a better build system :) |
| 00:33.10 | Shirik | yes I do |
| 00:33.13 | Fisker- | ~kiss Shirik |
| 00:33.14 | purl | ACTION forces Shirik to give Stanzilla a big kiss on the lips |
| 00:33.14 | Dewin | http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/stickers/9b3f/?cpg=ab |
| 00:33.22 | foxlit | int main() { printf("User error.\n"); return 0; } |
| 00:33.42 | Dewin | bah |
| 00:34.01 | Dewin | DWIM EAX, AL; |
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| 00:39.51 | Ryan123 | hello, i got a question ... is it possible to rightclick a NPC with a wow addon? |
| 00:40.00 | foxlit | No. |
| 00:40.03 | Lopeppeppy | Nope. |
| 00:40.10 | cbreak | only with a button |
| 00:40.16 | Ryan123 | that means? |
| 00:40.18 | Ryan123 | a API command? |
| 00:40.22 | cbreak | (on a mouse, theoretically on a keyboard) |
| 00:40.59 | Ryan123 | thats what im searching, a way to talk to a vendor just using the keyboard, as best a macro |
| 00:41.26 | cbreak | not possible with in-game means. |
| 00:41.50 | cbreak | there are ways to right click with keyboard only on mac os x |
| 00:42.10 | Ryan123 | ok :/ thank you anyways |
| 00:42.21 | cbreak | possibly on windows too (It's in Universal Access for users with disabilities) |
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| 00:42.48 | Ryan123 | sorry, what did you just write as last? |
| 00:42.51 | Tem | ASDKFJASDLFKJASDF |
| 00:42.52 | Tem | FUCK |
| 00:42.56 | cbreak | possibly on windows too (It's in Universal Access for users with disabilities) |
| 00:43.02 | Tem | My ticket for the game tomorrow was just given away |
| 00:43.12 | Lopeppeppy | What, Tem? |
| 00:43.24 | cbreak | the settings for keyboard based mouse controll |
| 00:43.29 | Tem | My friend who promissed me a ticket to the game tomorrow just gave it away |
| 00:43.30 | Ryan123 | ok |
| 00:43.44 | Tem | because he "forgot" that he promissed me the ticket 2 months ago |
| 00:43.53 | cbreak | (I mean on os x. Not sure where microsoft put it) |
| 00:44.41 | Shirik | hm |
| 00:44.43 | Shirik | That's a fun error |
| 00:44.54 | Lopeppeppy | Oh Tem, that sucks. I'm sorry to hear that! |
| 00:45.06 | Tem | I planned my whole fucking weekend around this |
| 00:45.11 | Tem | fucking lame |
| 00:45.19 | cbreak | See the bright side. |
| 00:45.21 | Shirik | :( Tem |
| 00:45.22 | cbreak | it's AV weekend. |
| 00:45.30 | Tem | cbreak, it's EOTS weekend |
| 00:45.34 | Tem | I HATE eots |
| 00:45.41 | Tem | also, what the fuck do I need honor for? |
| 00:45.43 | cbreak | on my server it's av weekend |
| 00:45.47 | Tem | I'm rerolling in 4 days |
| 00:45.53 | Shirik | to horde?! |
| 00:45.57 | Tem | nay |
| 00:45.59 | Shirik | ... |
| 00:46.01 | cbreak | to DK? |
| 00:46.07 | Shirik | why would you remake the same mistake |
| 00:46.19 | Gnarfoz | you get to play as DK early? :> |
| 00:47.18 | Shirik | ../../gdb/valops.c:218: internal-error: !!"Why did coercion fail?!"; A problem internal to GDB has been detected. Further debugging may prove unreliable. Quit this debugging session? (y or n) |
| 00:47.21 | Shirik | Awesome. |
| 00:47.31 | Shirik | I love error messages that have !!?! in them |
| 00:47.54 | Dashkal | mmm mmm, errors that the devs never expected to see :p |
| 00:49.56 | cbreak | mplayer prints "Core Dumped ;)" when it has completed a stream dump. |
| 00:50.03 | cbreak | a quite popular bug report. |
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| 00:51.12 | Shirik | gdb on qnx is somewhat unreliable when you do very unusual things |
| 00:51.18 | Shirik | I think it doesn't have a very large test base |
| 00:51.40 | End | Note to self: |
| 00:51.52 | End | don't automatically assume there was a TOC version bump |
| 00:51.55 | Shirik | haha |
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| 00:59.12 | Lopeppeppy | I have the most wicked stupid baby shaman question ever... be nice... how do you "recall" a totem? |
| 00:59.28 | foxlit | Totemic Call |
| 00:59.34 | cbreak | isn't there a spell that makes mana out of them? |
| 00:59.42 | Lopeppeppy | I take it that's something I have to learn when I grow older? |
| 00:59.43 | foxlit | There should also be a UI element taht'd let you cancel them |
| 00:59.43 | cbreak | read in a patchnote about it |
| 00:59.46 | foxlit | at 30 |
| 00:59.51 | haste | try to imagen, pain forever! |
| 01:00.09 | haste | think about it~ |
| 01:02.03 | foxlit | Hm, funny |
| 01:02.16 | foxlit | The ZIP I get from WoWI is smaller than the ZIP I get from my own site |
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| 01:02.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: if you have the default UI, you can right-click the timer for a particular totem to "dismiss" it. |
| 01:02.44 | cbreak | zip has several compression levels |
| 01:03.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: some UF addons will do this as well, I believe pitbull can, but I don't know about others |
| 01:03.31 | NightHawkTheSane | And yes you get "Totemic Call" at level 30. which dismisses all your totems and refunds 1/4 of the base mana cost. |
| 01:03.32 | foxlit | cbreak: I'm somewhat aware of that, but that wouldn't be interesting. |
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| 01:04.00 | foxlit | I doubt wowi re-compresses stuff. And the MD5 matches between the two, which leads me to think that Safari is doing something weird. |
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| 01:04.22 | cbreak | if the md5 match, the file size must match |
| 01:04.57 | foxlit | I wonder what makes you think that :) |
| 01:05.08 | Laraul | Does anyone know the details of the quest that allows you to exceed the 70 lvl cap? |
| 01:05.13 | cbreak | if the file was bigger, it would have more content |
| 01:05.18 | cbreak | and that content would change the hash |
| 01:05.22 | cbreak | with high probability |
| 01:05.29 | foxlit | See, no "must" :) |
| 01:05.54 | Laraul | foxlit: is this a download? |
| 01:06.06 | foxlit | yes. |
| 01:06.18 | cbreak | Laraul: quest? |
| 01:06.29 | Laraul | You do know that it stores the data as a bundle until finished |
| 01:06.44 | foxlit | so what? |
| 01:06.56 | Laraul | Do you know what a bundle is? |
| 01:07.45 | foxlit | In general terms, yes. I don't see how it applies to what's being reported as the final size after it has finished downloading. |
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| 01:08.33 | cbreak | are you absolutely sure that the file size differs? |
| 01:08.42 | foxlit | cbreak: on disk, no. |
| 01:08.47 | foxlit | As displayed by the browser, yes. |
| 01:08.56 | cbreak | don't trust the browser. |
| 01:09.04 | cbreak | some servers use on-the-fly compression |
| 01:09.15 | Laraul | Don't trust the browser? |
| 01:09.19 | cbreak | (although I don't see why a server would do that for compressed content) |
| 01:09.19 | Laraul | This isn't IE |
| 01:09.37 | Laraul | On the fly compression is for text |
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| 01:11.55 | Syzgyn | So I'm trying to come up with a good way to show server progression for LK, with both 10 and 25mans in the same table. Any ideas? |
| 01:12.19 | Corrodias | make it blindingly purple colored |
| 01:12.24 | foxlit | You need to figure out how you want to treat the difference between 10 and 25 mans |
| 01:12.49 | foxlit | Are they distinct clears? Does the 25 man version count as the 10 man version? |
| 01:13.19 | Syzgyn | AFAIK, no. Though it's probably a safe bet that if it's been cleared as a 25 man, it's been cleared as a 10 man. |
| 01:13.48 | foxlit | Point is, would you want to display the status of the 10 man clear if you know someone cleared the 25 man version? |
| 01:14.19 | Syzgyn | No |
| 01:14.44 | Laraul | foxlit is a Mac user alright... |
| 01:14.53 | Syzgyn | But what's a good, intuitive way to make the distiction? |
| 01:15.02 | Laraul | 25 is bigger than 10 |
| 01:15.17 | foxlit | bigger epeen checmark, Syzgyn :) |
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| 01:15.25 | Laraul | Ugh NO! |
| 01:15.35 | Syzgyn | haha |
| 01:15.38 | foxlit | s/cm/ckm/ |
| 01:16.09 | Laraul | i never understand the purpose of useless IRC bots |
| 01:16.18 | Syzgyn | ~botsnack |
| 01:16.18 | purl | Syzgyn: :) |
| 01:16.30 | foxlit | I think you could shorten that to |
| 01:16.38 | foxlit | "I never understand purpose of things I don't understand purpose of" |
| 01:16.45 | foxlit | Of course, that may appear longer. |
| 01:17.23 | Syzgyn | foxlit: I guess It'd help to mention it's for wowwiki, so it has to be simple enough in the template that everyone using it can do it [hopefully] correctly. |
| 01:18.17 | foxlit | Generally, there's just two words for wowwiki progression templates: "universal failure" |
| 01:18.20 | Syzgyn | lawl |
| 01:18.35 | Syzgyn | well I had our progression in a nicely formatted, sortable table |
| 01:18.49 | Syzgyn | then some tard gutted it and put it in a shitty looking one |
| 01:19.15 | Codex| | whats the name of the old mod that spams emotes while ur on a gryphon |
| 01:19.17 | Codex| | like wave |
| 01:19.36 | Laraul | omigod why would someone want to use that addon |
| 01:20.04 | ScytheBlade1 | CreateFrame:("Frame", "LinkTradeskillsChildFrame", "TradeSkillFrame"):SetScript("OnShow", GetLink) |
| 01:20.10 | ScytheBlade1 | That's valid/will do what I want, right? |
| 01:20.36 | Codex| | laraul: do u remeber the name? |
| 01:20.44 | Laraul | I have no idea... |
| 01:20.51 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: Missing a () |
| 01:20.55 | Shirik | after CreateFrame |
| 01:21.00 | Shirik | or, have an extra :, rather |
| 01:21.19 | Codex| | i cant rmemeber who made it |
| 01:21.21 | Codex| | or if it still works |
| 01:21.43 | Shirik | other than that it looks ok |
| 01:21.46 | Shirik | with basic thinking |
| 01:21.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Wait what? |
| 01:21.53 | ScytheBlade1 | OH |
| 01:21.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Doh |
| 01:22.02 | ScytheBlade1 | CreateFrame("Frame", "LinkTradeskillsChildFrame", "TradeSkillFrame"):SetScript("OnShow", GetLink) |
| 01:22.23 | ScytheBlade1 | That : was me being stupid |
| 01:23.11 | Codex| | what was the name of the old wowace developer who left a year or 2 ago |
| 01:23.15 | Codex| | he always had real creative addon names |
| 01:23.20 | Codex| | maybe had an S in it |
| 01:23.31 | Laraul | You are desperate for this thing |
| 01:23.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: after your "put a flag on it" but I'm pretty sure I'm never asking again |
| 01:23.56 | Laraul | And the fact that it's from the same person behind ACE scares me more |
| 01:24.07 | Codex| | whats his name? |
| 01:25.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: what's the call to get your server name? You remember offhand? I'm searching for "server" on the API docs and nothing.. |
| 01:25.29 | End | GetRealmName() |
| 01:25.40 | ScytheBlade1 | duh |
| 01:25.41 | Dewin | GetServerName()? |
| 01:25.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Thanks, End |
| 01:25.45 | End | :) |
| 01:25.45 | Codex| | he always had the cleverest named addons |
| 01:25.47 | ScytheBlade1 | and Dewin |
| 01:25.53 | Shirik | and Shirik |
| 01:25.57 | ScytheBlade1 | err, not Dewin ;) |
| 01:25.58 | ScytheBlade1 | And uh |
| 01:26.01 | ScytheBlade1 | ~stab Shirik |
| 01:26.02 | purl | ACTION runs at Shirik with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 01:26.07 | Shirik | I was too busy breaking gdb |
| 01:26.15 | Dewin | oh yeah, GetServerName() is glue only apparently ;) |
| 01:26.26 | Codex| | who wast he guy who started ace? his name |
| 01:27.45 | |Jelly| | So I got uncritable ... and maintained 16307hp (have never ran SSC/TK so blah blah blah) |
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| 01:33.09 | Codex| | so who was the guy who started ace? |
| 01:33.29 | Lopeppeppy | Which version? :) |
| 01:33.54 | cbreak | <batman>it was... the joker!</batman> |
| 01:34.24 | Codex| | Lopeppeppy: it was a guy who had lots of addons which clever names |
| 01:34.29 | Codex| | and his name possibly had an S in it |
| 01:34.39 | Codex| | silly addons |
| 01:34.45 | Codex| | he left a while back |
| 01:34.55 | cbreak | have you considered downloading an old ace version and reading the copyright notices in the file header? |
| 01:35.28 | cbreak | assuming they exist. |
| 01:35.47 | Codex| | nope, didnt think of that :P |
| 01:36.00 | shadowfaux | Kaelten or Turan? |
| 01:36.24 | End | I kept think Kaelten |
| 01:36.30 | End | but neither of those have an s in them :P |
| 01:36.38 | End | thinking* |
| 01:36.44 | shadowfaux | yeah thats the thing, and Turan left a while back |
| 01:37.12 | End | yeah, and Kaelten is still around, just focused on slightly different things |
| 01:37.20 | shadowfaux | yeah |
| 01:37.26 | shadowfaux | but still no S |
| 01:38.23 | cbreak | Ksaseslstsesn, Tsusrsasn. So there. |
| 01:39.46 | Codex| | hmm |
| 01:39.54 | Codex| | neither of those were the guy i was thinking about :( |
| 01:40.06 | Lopeppeppy | Fizzwidget? |
| 01:40.12 | Corrodias | fizzwidget was the name i was JUST about to say |
| 01:40.17 | Codex| | nah not fizz |
| 01:40.21 | cbreak | maybe google knows. /me goes check |
| 01:40.39 | Codex| | he had this funny addon that spams emotes on gryphons |
| 01:40.44 | Codex| | and i forgot its name :P |
| 01:41.06 | cbreak | google is not yet self aware. |
| 01:41.41 | Codex| | whats that mean? |
| 01:42.39 | |Jelly| | There aren't any level 70 raids in Wrath, is there? (Where say for instance, you need to be uncrushable) |
| 01:42.47 | cbreak | it didn't answer the question. |
| 01:42.57 | cbreak | http://www.wowace.com/profiles/?sort=date_joined has a sorted list of all devs of wowace |
| 01:44.38 | Codex| | 45 pages |
| 01:44.40 | Codex| | worth of em |
| 01:44.46 | Codex| | eek |
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| 01:45.25 | cbreak | they have the number of projects listed too :) |
| 01:46.43 | Codex| | lol wowaceSVN 09/04/2008 487 |
| 01:46.49 | Codex| | 487 projects on the svn |
| 01:50.28 | Shirik | ~dict parent |
| 01:50.34 | Shirik | ~dict 2 parent |
| 01:50.40 | Shirik | ~dict 3 parent |
| 01:50.45 | Shirik | bleh |
| 01:50.50 | Shirik | ok fine, it can be a verb, ScytheBlade1 |
| 01:50.56 | Lopeppeppy | :P |
| 01:52.19 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy, are you still being good? :) |
| 01:52.26 | Shirik | I'm watching you! |
| 01:52.53 | Lopeppeppy | I am, Shirik. No caffeine. It hasn't been all that hard, really.... |
| 01:53.06 | Lopeppeppy | I did just finish a Godiva/Baileys drink though, that was naughty. |
| 01:53.13 | Shirik | oh |
| 01:53.33 | Corrodias | i live largely caffeine free~ |
| 01:54.54 | Dewin | godiva/baileys? Oh, that sounds really tempting right now. |
| 01:55.24 | Shirik | I'm confused |
| 01:55.31 | Shirik | I know I don't drink much, but isn't godiva chocolate? |
| 01:55.41 | Lopeppeppy | Godiva chocolate liqueur. *grin* If I spelled that right. |
| 01:55.50 | Shirik | oh wow |
| 01:56.03 | Dewin | it's goooood |
| 01:56.07 | shadowfaux | caffeine free? wish i was, more caffeine than blood in my body i think... |
| 01:56.10 | Shirik | I bet it's expensive |
| 01:56.31 | Dewin | I had some white chocolate liqueor |
| 01:56.36 | Lopeppeppy | Meh, not too bad as they go. $15 for the mid-sized bottle. A bit cheaper than Baileys, IIRC |
| 01:56.41 | Dewin | add some baileys and maybe some kahlua and... yum |
| 01:56.57 | Lopeppeppy | Godiva makes a white chocolate too, yup. |
| 01:57.03 | Dewin | that's what we had ;) |
| 01:57.13 | Dewin | presently out |
| 01:57.17 | Dewin | Another thing I've found dangerous |
| 01:57.37 | Shirik | think fast: Easiest way to output a constant stream 01010101 to /dev/ser1 |
| 01:57.38 | Dewin | is creme de mint + irish cream + chocolate milk |
| 01:58.21 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, yup. Or any of the things we've mentioned in hot cocoa. |
| 01:58.27 | Dewin | <-- is the guy that always goes for the girly drinks. |
| 01:59.15 | Lopeppeppy | < - the girl who does shots |
| 01:59.26 | Dewin | well |
| 01:59.30 | Dewin | I do shots, depending on what they're shots of. |
| 01:59.32 | Cairenn | <-- another girl who does shots |
| 01:59.40 | Dewin | And then there's jello shots (... ahh... memories) |
| 01:59.42 | Cairenn | <-- also does scotch |
| 02:00.02 | Lopeppeppy | < -- does the Irish, Italian.... non-discriminatory. :) |
| 02:00.14 | Dewin | Don't think I've yet had the opportunity to try scotch.;-/ |
| 02:00.14 | Cairenn | yes, well ... ;) |
| 02:00.22 | cbreak | chinese & japanese green tea. |
| 02:00.33 | Dewin | <3 chai |
| 02:00.47 | Dewin | even beyond the charbucks latte variety ;) |
| 02:00.55 | Lopeppeppy | Chai is good stuff. |
| 02:01.21 | Dewin | makes me want to go back to Teavana and get some more of their chai. |
| 02:01.28 | Lopeppeppy | So go! |
| 02:01.30 | Lopeppeppy | Chai am good! |
| 02:01.53 | Dewin | a) I'm without car at the moment (wife at work), b) I really need to shower (fixing to afk to do that), c) It's ~25 miles away in a mall. |
| 02:02.04 | Lopeppeppy | Tomorrow then. |
| 02:02.18 | Dewin | leave the house on a weekend, are you nuts? :-p |
| 02:02.31 | Dewin | What I really miss is the chai shop that was in Tacoma Mall |
| 02:02.59 | Dewin | Let's just say their menu had ~30 items, and they were all chai. |
| 02:03.31 | Dewin | afk! |
| 02:04.18 | Shirik | sigh |
| 02:04.45 | Shirik | electrical team needs to die |
| 02:04.57 | Lopeppeppy | Die, diaf! Rawr! |
| 02:05.05 | Lopeppeppy | ~nuke electrical team |
| 02:05.05 | purl | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at electrical team ... Bâ¢â¢M! |
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| 02:05.30 | cbreak | I like that. |
| 02:05.36 | cbreak | Unicode rocks. |
| 02:06.22 | Shirik | so now, instead, I do |
| 02:06.28 | Shirik | cat /dev/urandom > /dev/ser1 |
| 02:06.32 | Shirik | and start probing pins until I find it |
| 02:06.38 | Shirik | thank god for oscilloscopes |
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| 02:11.01 | Shirik | wow |
| 02:11.13 | Shirik | I accidentally disconnected the power supply from my robot, and it stayed on |
| 02:11.34 | Shirik | That was scary until I checked the second power supply and noticed the current was double its normal output |
| 02:12.02 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm. That could be bad. |
| 02:12.07 | Shirik | well |
| 02:12.12 | Shirik | it's good that it didn't self-replicate |
| 02:12.37 | duaiwe | "So, blue as in triangle right?" |
| 02:12.39 | Shirik | The power supplies I'm using have OCP, they won't blow up :) I'm intentionally not using the batteries right now |
| 02:12.41 | Corrodias | better hope lightning doesn't strike it, then |
| 02:13.36 | Lopeppeppy | No blowing yourself up. That's my job. |
| 02:14.31 | cog|away | /headdesk http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12454626966&sid=1 |
| 02:14.34 | Shirik | hmmmmm this isn't good though |
| 02:14.48 | cog|away | ~lart NightHawkTheSane |
| 02:14.48 | purl | slaps NightHawkTheSane upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 02:14.51 | cbreak | â â¢â£. And full chess piece support: ââââ... |
| 02:14.54 | Shirik | I turn on the power supply and it goes straight to OCP mode :/ |
| 02:14.58 | Shirik | something's not right >.> |
| 02:15.17 | NightHawkTheSane | cog|away: >.> what i do? |
| 02:15.31 | Lopeppeppy | Cogwheel, I had to explain to someone that a link needed the http:// in order to work (in the particular application she was using it). "What's an HTTP?" she asks me. |
| 02:15.33 | cbreak | Maybe it runs on â Power :) |
| 02:16.23 | cog|away | NightHawkTheSane: i was looking to ping you a few minutes ago... |
| 02:16.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: "magic" |
| 02:16.38 | Shirik | what's that symbol, cbreak? |
| 02:16.41 | Shirik | It shows as a box to me |
| 02:16.41 | cog|away | :P |
| 02:16.59 | cbreak | it's the "ATOM SYMBOL" glyph |
| 02:17.00 | NightHawkTheSane | cog|away: oh, sorry.. yeah, when my client reconnects it uses that nick instead. i could probably change that to something saner. |
| 02:17.04 | NightHawkTheSane | .. no pun intended. |
| 02:17.10 | Shirik | wtf is an "atom symbol"? |
| 02:17.14 | cbreak | unicode 269B |
| 02:17.36 | cog|away | ~rimshot |
| 02:17.37 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 02:17.38 | Shirik | http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/269b/index.htm |
| 02:17.39 | Shirik | ? |
| 02:17.45 | cbreak | http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/269b/index.htm |
| 02:17.49 | cbreak | indeed |
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| 02:25.21 | Shirik | :< |
| 02:25.39 | Lopeppeppy | Get some more. |
| 02:25.43 | Shirik | that's not the real problem |
| 02:25.43 | Lopeppeppy | Before you starves. |
| 02:25.49 | Shirik | the real question is where do I go after getting food |
| 02:25.53 | Shirik | do I come back to school or go home |
| 02:26.00 | Lopeppeppy | Home. |
| 02:26.07 | Lopeppeppy | It's Friday night, stop working and go home. |
| 02:26.17 | Shirik | friday night is a great day to work |
| 02:27.18 | Lopeppeppy | It's a great time to read a book and relax, too. |
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| 02:27.54 | Shirik | relaxing is a waste of time |
| 02:28.07 | Shirik | I have plenty of time to relax at next blizzcon :) |
| 02:28.19 | Lopeppeppy | Darlin'. Do not make me drive down there and kick your arse. |
| 02:28.31 | Shirik | wait, are you saying if I keep this up you'll come down here? |
| 02:29.29 | Tekkub | http://github.com/blog/207-brand-new-feature-we-don-t-want-you-to-use |
| 02:29.30 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 02:29.36 | Tekkub | I'M A REAL BLOGGER NOW! |
| 02:30.30 | Lopeppeppy | I'd have to, Shirik, and it wouldn't be pretty! |
| 02:30.36 | Shirik | I disagree |
| 02:31.05 | Lopeppeppy | Aww, how sweet. :P |
| 02:41.36 | ScytheBlade1 | How do I add an option to the player name right-click in chat? |
| 02:41.42 | ScytheBlade1 | (to the menu that pops up) |
| 02:41.54 | ScytheBlade1 | ie, Whisper/Invite/etc |
| 02:41.58 | Tekkub | hax |
| 02:42.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Well it's related to the chat code |
| 02:42.11 | ScytheBlade1 | That goes without saying |
| 02:42.20 | Tekkub | http://github.com/tekkub/tekplayermenu/tree/master/tekPlayerMenu.lua |
| 02:46.22 | mikma | pokeypokey |
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| 02:48.01 | ScytheBlade1 | What does getn() do? |
| 02:49.10 | End | I thought they removed getn() |
| 02:49.15 | End | or maybe it was just setn |
| 02:49.27 | Tekkub | just use # |
| 02:50.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh |
| 02:50.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha, k |
| 02:54.32 | Antiarc | http://i34.tinypic.com/mrg6ip.jpg - minimap overlay with resource blips and Gathermate/Routes support :D |
| 02:54.54 | Corrodias | awesomes. |
| 02:55.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: did I ever tell you that you scare me? |
| 02:55.41 | Antiarc | It's -awesome- |
| 02:55.45 | Lopeppeppy | It's very awesome. |
| 02:55.46 | Dewin | The heck? |
| 02:55.50 | Antiarc | Herbing with it is so easy |
| 02:55.54 | Dewin | Is that a tracking icon I see? |
| 02:55.59 | Antiarc | yes |
| 02:56.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Tekkub: why are we hooking _HideButtons? |
| 02:56.14 | Dewin | Neat. |
| 02:56.15 | shadowfaux | very tidy as well |
| 02:56.22 | Dewin | What are the lines? |
| 02:56.27 | Antiarc | That's Routes |
| 02:56.35 | Antiarc | It computes the most efficient path between resource nodes |
| 02:56.37 | Antiarc | It's optional |
| 02:56.38 | Dewin | ahhhh |
| 02:56.49 | Antiarc | I have two routes there, one for silverleaf and one for peacebloom |
| 02:56.57 | Antiarc | Hence the colors |
| 02:56.57 | Dewin | bah... only 30 minutes in which to cook. |
| 02:57.06 | Dewin | makes sense |
| 02:57.17 | Tekkub | ScytheBlade1, to hide them when they aren't in context I think |
| 02:57.17 | cog|away | *sniff* |
| 02:57.30 | Antiarc | they shut it down? |
| 02:57.48 | Lopeppeppy | I need to delete my Beta install soon too. |
| 02:57.54 | cog|away | earlier this week iirc |
| 02:58.00 | Tekkub | yea few days ago |
| 02:58.09 | Tekkub | rather anticlimactically |
| 02:58.35 | Tekkub | this year's end of beta even was "/serverquit" |
| 02:59.42 | End | :( |
| 02:59.48 | End | I wasn't even aware! |
| 02:59.54 | End | but it sounds like it was lame anyways |
| 02:59.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Tekkub: hmm k |
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| 03:03.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Tekkub: <3 |
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| 03:16.20 | Corrodias | it's HELPING you. like microsoft products! :D |
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| 03:16.50 | shadowfaux | that sort of strange help XD |
| 03:16.55 | Shirik | Yeah... |
| 03:16.59 | Lopeppeppy | ~lart GCC |
| 03:16.59 | purl | slaps GCC upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 03:17.03 | Shirik | I can't debug this code, because the variable doesn't exist! |
| 03:17.10 | Shirik | gcc decided it would be better to stick it in a register |
| 03:17.19 | Shirik | which I can understand, but gdb is all "variable does not exist!" |
| 03:38.42 | Shirik | I love people that use the word "effect" effectively, where it looks like you should have written "affect" but not true |
| 03:38.55 | Shirik | "To effect a poll, the timeout argument should be a non-NULL pointer, pointing to a zero-valued timeval structure." |
| 03:39.10 | Lopeppeppy | I c wut you did ther. |
| 03:39.15 | Shirik | I think there's an xkcd comic about that |
| 03:39.35 | shadowfaux | yeah there is |
| 03:39.41 | shadowfaux | seen the latest one? |
| 03:41.35 | Corrodias | i stopped checking xkcd. too many duds. |
| 03:41.50 | Yssaril | Antiarc: how did you get minimap without the background? |
| 03:41.59 | Antiarc | Secretz! |
| 03:42.04 | Antiarc | Actually, it's just set to an alpha of 0 |
| 03:42.11 | Antiarc | Blips don't obey alpha, conveniently |
| 03:42.27 | Yssaril | Antiarc: put it in sexymaps as a gathering mode :) |
| 03:42.33 | Antiarc | It's in sexymap |
| 03:42.36 | Antiarc | It's called HudMap :P |
| 03:42.43 | Corrodias | sexual mapping |
| 03:42.47 | Corrodias | i like this concept. |
| 03:42.56 | Yssaril | can you switch between them easyly? |
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| 03:43.06 | Corrodias | what, like, bisexual mapping? |
| 03:43.08 | Yssaril | say on button press ? |
| 03:44.02 | Antiarc | Yeah, there's a keybind setting |
| 03:44.05 | Antiarc | I use ctrl-M |
| 03:44.10 | Yssaril | woot |
| 03:44.48 | Yssaril | final thought did you make coordinates that will disapear when not hovering ove the minimap |
| 03:45.42 | Antiarc | Oh, no, coords are always on |
| 03:45.46 | Antiarc | I guess I should make them fadable |
| 03:46.48 | Syzgyn | lol, alliance mounted a 100 man raid on silvermoon, crashed outlands. |
| 03:46.50 | Yssaril | that be nice cause they are not sexy :P |
| 03:47.48 | NightHawkTheSane | you should make them sexier, too. ;) |
| 03:53.22 | Shirik | Syzgyn: post hoc ergo propter hoc? |
| 03:54.27 | Lopeppeppy | Bless you, Shirik. |
| 03:54.31 | Shirik | ... |
| 03:54.31 | Lopeppeppy | You should have the cold looked at. |
| 03:55.07 | Syzgyn | Shirik: Hugbwhghwa? |
| 03:55.20 | Shirik | I was pointing out a fallacy in your statement |
| 03:55.40 | Syzgyn | What statement? |
| 03:55.52 | Shirik | You make the assumption that "Because outlands crashed after the 100 man raid started, the 100 man raid caused the crash" |
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| 03:56.04 | Syzgyn | this is true |
| 03:56.12 | Syzgyn | But I'd be willing to bet money on it. |
| 03:56.24 | Syzgyn | also |
| 03:56.28 | Syzgyn | ~lart Shirik |
| 03:56.28 | purl | takes out Shirik with the trash |
| 03:56.41 | Shirik | I only find it odd, considering there are generally more than 100 people attacking mobs in Outlands |
| 03:57.03 | Syzgyn | Not 100 people in the same place, at the same time, attacking the same mob. |
| 03:57.20 | Shirik | never done Doomwalker with 100 people? |
| 03:57.26 | Syzgyn | ...no. |
| 03:57.27 | Shirik | It's somewhat fun, despite the fact that only 40 can get credit |
| 03:57.42 | ZorbaTHut | bah, I assume the Wrath beta server has been taken down entirely? |
| 03:57.51 | Syzgyn | On top of that, there's the unknown number of horde defending |
| 03:57.59 | Syzgyn | and all the NPC's in the area, the guards spawning |
| 03:58.09 | Shirik | admittedly I have no idea of the circumstances involved |
| 03:58.10 | ccox|work | Shirik - Doomwalker only needs 40 |
| 03:58.15 | Shirik | I never said it needed 100 |
| 03:58.23 | Shirik | we do it with 15ish |
| 03:58.37 | Shirik | It just happens that when we pull it, generally the other 3 alliance guilds sitting outside BT start attacking too, etc. |
| 03:59.05 | Shirik | anyway |
| 03:59.07 | Shirik | back to code |
| 03:59.09 | Syzgyn | World PvP is more than capable of crashing a server :P |
| 03:59.18 | Shirik | that's depressing |
| 03:59.22 | Shirik | World pvp used to be great |
| 03:59.23 | ccox | Shirik - my method: kill the alliance guilds first |
| 03:59.26 | Shirik | then battlegrounds came around |
| 03:59.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: no, it really never did. it's just "good old days" syndrome |
| 03:59.47 | Syzgyn | ^^ |
| 03:59.56 | Shirik | you never had fun at southshore vs tarren mill? |
| 03:59.59 | NightHawkTheSane | s/did/was, but whatever. |
| 04:00.01 | Syzgyn | I have |
| 04:00.12 | Syzgyn | but I wouldn't want that to be the one place to PvP |
| 04:00.14 | Shirik | I also liked the old-style AV |
| 04:00.14 | NightHawkTheSane | sure, I did, but I wouldn't say it was more fun than battlegrounds/arenas |
| 04:00.20 | Corrodias | nostalgia |
| 04:00.27 | Shirik | and then they're all like "You know what, AV shouldn't last this long. Let's put in reinforcements" |
| 04:00.39 | Syzgyn | AV shouldn't last that long |
| 04:00.40 | Lopeppeppy | Southshore! Tarren Mill! |
| 04:00.44 | Shirik | That was pretty much the end of BGs for me |
| 04:00.46 | NightHawkTheSane | heh, there were a lot of changes before 'reinforcements' was added |
| 04:00.52 | Syzgyn | Yea |
| 04:01.07 | NightHawkTheSane | were added. man my english is fail tonight |
| 04:01.09 | Syzgyn | I remember people leaving progression raids because their AV queue finally popped. |
| 04:01.09 | Shirik | nothing that major that I saw |
| 04:01.19 | Shirik | ok now the AV queue was another issue |
| 04:01.20 | Syzgyn | And they'd last for days and days |
| 04:01.23 | keias | Old Style AV was fun |
| 04:01.27 | keias | Even the 48 hour games. |
| 04:01.28 | Syzgyn | Meh |
| 04:01.33 | Lopeppeppy | AV for 48 hours was sweet. |
| 04:01.42 | Syzgyn | For an hour, maybe |
| 04:01.42 | keias | wake up and hop back in the same game :D |
| 04:01.44 | Syzgyn | lol |
| 04:01.47 | NightHawkTheSane | the queue was just because you were typically limited to your server for pvpers. x-realm bgs helped that some |
| 04:01.52 | Syzgyn | yeah |
| 04:01.54 | Syzgyn | thats true |
| 04:02.24 | NightHawkTheSane | plus, AV was really honor inefficiant, so all the honor-grinders went to WSG |
| 04:03.36 | Shirik | I have no problem with that |
| 04:03.41 | Shirik | I play for fun, not honor |
| 04:04.44 | Lopeppeppy | I just like to follow people around and get things to turn in for rep. |
| 04:06.24 | cog|away | hmpf... war2 no likey 98se under virtual pc |
| 04:06.27 | Kaelten | hrm, I got pinged but reading back I have no idea what the conversation was about |
| 04:06.38 | Syzgyn | Kaelten: ping |
| 04:06.44 | Syzgyn | :P |
| 04:06.45 | cog|away | Ping: Kaelten |
| 04:06.46 | Kaelten | hi |
| 04:06.48 | Kaelten | :P |
| 04:06.52 | Lopeppeppy | That sounds vile, cog|away. |
| 04:06.55 | Lopeppeppy | Hi Kaelten! |
| 04:06.58 | Lopeppeppy | We missed you. |
| 04:07.01 | Kaelten | heya peppy |
| 04:07.13 | Kaelten | uh huh |
| 04:07.15 | Kaelten | that's likely |
| 04:07.16 | Lopeppeppy | We were talking about Ace-stuff, someone was trying to remember an addon author, but we never did figure it out. |
| 04:07.22 | Lopeppeppy | I did too misses you. *sniff* |
| 04:07.29 | Kaelten | what did they write? |
| 04:08.33 | Kaelten | I never meant to doubt you |
| 04:10.16 | Kaelten | gods the textmate lua bundle sucks :( |
| 04:10.53 | NightHawkTheSane | sucks how? |
| 04:11.29 | Kaelten | NightHawkTheSane: The outlining functionality that normally has stuff int he drop down on the bottom right |
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| 04:11.43 | Kaelten | doesn't work |
| 04:11.48 | Lopeppeppy | Kaelten, some addon that when you got onto your mount would help you spam emotes. |
| 04:11.58 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 04:12.04 | Kaelten | I don't remember that |
| 04:12.20 | Lopeppeppy | Neither did we. :) |
| 04:12.27 | shadowfaux | think it was the taxi they meant |
| 04:12.54 | Kaelten | you could look around in oldsvn.wowace.com/wowace/tags/ |
| 04:13.00 | Kaelten | it might be in there |
| 04:13.18 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah... I think said person was gonna go pawing. I'm surely not interested enough to paw around myself. |
| 04:13.28 | Kaelten | me either, heh |
| 04:19.46 | Shirik | pawing? |
| 04:20.44 | Shirik | if (type != MESSAGE_REGISTER || type != MESSAGE_UNREGISTER) throw std::bad_alloc(); |
| 04:20.49 | Shirik | I really think I was drunk when I wrote a lot of this code |
| 04:24.40 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik. Bad monkey. |
| 04:25.19 | Gnarfoz | I just made a wow addon that has the refrain of the Code Monkey song as it's filename. |
| 04:25.40 | Shirik | code monkey song? |
| 04:25.48 | Gnarfoz | google code monkey, first hit |
| 04:25.50 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
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| 04:28.42 | NightHawkTheSane | >.> |
| 04:28.44 | Lopeppeppy | "Code Monkey think maybe manager want write goddamn login page himself!" |
| 04:29.14 | Shirik | that's pretty awesome |
| 04:29.29 | Lopeppeppy | I love the dance, if that's not the one you watched... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lLRBiEBRAc |
| 04:34.08 | Lopeppeppy | 52 more songs, Shirik. http://www.jonathancoulton.com/category/thing-a-week/ |
| 04:35.13 | Gnarfoz | Lopeppeppy: lol she's awesome (as the shirt says. :D) |
| 04:36.39 | Lopeppeppy | She totally is. I saw a video where she got to go up on stage and do the song with JC live. |
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| 04:40.33 | Lopeppeppy | Night everyone. |
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| 04:43.49 | Corrodias | NEEDS MORE SWEDISH METAL |
| 04:45.51 | Gnarfoz | sure |
| 04:45.52 | Gnarfoz | np: Sonic Syndicate - Only Inhuman · [>---------] (10%/4:13) |
| 04:58.40 | |Jelly| | So I make something for someone, right? They don't tip me. Then they ask me if I'd tank their Kara. |
| 04:59.20 | cbreak | people actually expect tips if they help each other? |
| 04:59.45 | Gnarfoz | at least in america |
| 05:00.09 | |Jelly| | Yeah, we can't automatically include it in the total ... in WoW either. |
| 05:00.24 | Gnarfoz | heh |
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| 05:09.52 | Shirik | Note to self: When using an RTOS, don't do "while (true) {}" as a test on high priority processes |
| 05:10.01 | Shirik | I think this is a good time to go home |
| 05:10.35 | ccox | Shirik - if you did that on an RTOS, yes, it's time to go home |
| 05:10.40 | Shirik | yeah... |
| 05:10.48 | Shirik | but the fact that it got there means I fixed the bug! |
| 05:10.58 | Shirik | Except now I have to restart |
| 05:11.10 | Shirik | so instead, shut down, go home :P |
| 05:19.34 | NightHawkTheSane | This comment is hilarious. http://community.livejournal.com/seattle/5533828.html?thread=98485124#t98485124 |
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| 05:45.24 | NightHawkTheSane | ~whaledodge Shirik |
| 05:45.25 | purl | 15 whales teleport around nighthawkthesane, protecting nighthawkthesane from any harm as a result of Shirik's actions |
| 05:45.48 | Shirik | no harm, just tackle :( |
| 05:47.04 | NightHawkTheSane | ooh, starcraft |
| 05:47.56 | Shirik | I am, however, confused |
| 05:48.06 | Shirik | I'm now actually paying attention to all the briefings before the missions |
| 05:48.28 | Shirik | and I thought the zerg were created by the terran as a "secret weapon" |
| 05:48.52 | Shirik | But I'm on zerg campaign 10 and it mentions that the overmind's creators were the xel'naga |
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| 05:50.28 | NightHawkTheSane | im not terribly up on starcraft lore, but could there not be a difference between the overmind and the 'zerg'? |
| 05:50.38 | Shirik | maybe |
| 05:53.46 | End | so |
| 05:53.56 | MentalPower | the zerg were studied by the terran for war purposes, and the brood war terrans tried to imprision the zerg overmind |
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| 05:54.14 | End | Professions with specialties...Leatherworking, Engineering, Alchemy, Tailoring and Blacksmithing...am I missing any? |
| 05:54.20 | MentalPower | but the zerg were originally shepered/created by the xel'naga same as the protoss |
| 05:55.26 | Shirik | looks like you're right, NightHawkTheSane |
| 05:56.24 | Shirik | The xel'naga only "helped develop" the protoss and zerg. For the protoss, they were granted a technological spike, the khaydarin crystal formation, etc. For the zerg, in particular to avoid their failure with the protoss, they created the overmind |
| 06:00.22 | MentalPower | purity of form vs purity of mind |
| 06:00.57 | MentalPower | night all |
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| 06:05.24 | Arrowmaster | need GoW2 coop partner, act3 chapter4 hardcore |
| 06:05.38 | Corrodias | this makes me realize that i have never seen zerg-on-protoss porn |
| 06:06.58 | Corrodias | and i ask myself, "why?" |
| 06:07.03 | Corrodias | it's so obvious |
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| 06:27.42 | UltraNurd | hey all. quick repository tagging question |
| 06:28.02 | UltraNurd | if I tag as "v1.0-30000-alpha"... why does the packager designate it a beta? |
| 06:28.21 | UltraNurd | or is it just always beta if it's tagged, but not a release pattern? |
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| 06:59.50 | NightHawkTheSane | burner conceeded wa-08. :( |
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| 07:25.43 | bongobingo | hi everybody |
| 07:25.56 | bongobingo | i hope i came to the right place |
| 07:26.45 | bongobingo | is it allowed here to ask about editing or inspecting UI in wow ? |
| 07:26.56 | bongobingo | anyone ? |
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| 07:29.14 | End | bongobingo: of course, but we don't promise an answer |
| 07:29.26 | bongobingo | ah praise you |
| 07:29.31 | bongobingo | here goes |
| 07:29.49 | Tekkub | 6 lines of leadin to the question |
| 07:29.51 | bongobingo | its actually nothin big.. |
| 07:29.53 | Tekkub | better be damn good |
| 07:29.58 | Tekkub | 7 lines |
| 07:30.00 | End | lol Tekkub |
| 07:30.02 | bongobingo | :) |
| 07:30.05 | Tekkub | 8 |
| 07:30.05 | End | 8 lines |
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| 07:30.10 | End | we're counting! |
| 07:30.31 | Shirik | you guys are mean |
| 07:30.37 | End | Shirik: No you |
| 07:30.40 | bongobingo | id like to set up a macro that calls up character pane, another for talents, another for game menu |
| 07:30.46 | bongobingo | is it possible |
| 07:30.48 | bongobingo | ? |
| 07:31.04 | Shirik | Uh, sure, but what's wrong with the keybinds? |
| 07:31.05 | Tekkub | 'C' 'N' and 'ESC' :P |
| 07:31.06 | bongobingo | because i read that those were the protected functions of blizz |
| 07:31.15 | Shirik | you read wrong |
| 07:32.01 | bongobingo | i dont use keyb much and im ussing an addon to make new bars and id like to completely remove the blizz main bar below but i cant make a macro to make those appear |
| 07:33.05 | End | some "actionbutton addons" let you detach the micro buttons |
| 07:33.17 | Tekkub | *sigh* should I try to make greater darkmoon cards, or just vendor all my uncommon inks? |
| 07:33.25 | Tekkub | all the other unc inks are worthless |
| 07:33.30 | bongobingo | hmm |
| 07:33.36 | bongobingo | have an example ? |
| 07:33.41 | Tekkub | Bongos |
| 07:33.59 | Tekkub | Bartender also I think |
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| 07:34.51 | bongobingo | hmm ill go give it a try.. il b back.. :) thanx.. |
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| 07:58.26 | bongobingo | thanx loads people :) |
| 07:58.39 | bongobingo | ive got my little problem solved |
| 07:58.41 | bongobingo | :) |
| 07:58.46 | bongobingo | seeya |
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| 08:27.06 | Thunder_Child | ahhhh...the new legend of the seeker is horrid! |
| 08:27.53 | Thunder_Child | it completely skull fucks the origional storyline |
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| 08:28.23 | darkus | plz i want a cracked server |
| 08:28.42 | nevcairiel | wonder if Cairenn is awake |
| 08:29.17 | darkus | away |
| 08:29.18 | darkus | :/ |
| 08:29.48 | Thunder_Child | darkus, comments like that are against the rules |
| 08:29.55 | Thunder_Child | yes Fisker-? |
| 08:29.59 | Cairenn | nevah |
| 08:30.06 | darkus | :'( |
| 08:30.10 | Fisker- | snap out of it Thunder_Child |
| 08:30.19 | darkus | why? |
| 08:30.33 | Cairenn | nevcairiel: what's up? |
| 08:30.33 | Thunder_Child | leave me with my misery |
| 08:30.41 | darkus | it's like a private server |
| 08:30.42 | nevcairiel | just that darkus guy =P |
| 08:30.51 | Thunder_Child | darkus, because it's against the rules |
| 08:30.53 | Cairenn | darkus: because it's against Blizz's ToS/EULA |
| 08:31.05 | Cairenn | and discussion of such in here isn't allowed |
| 08:31.11 | Cairenn | so either change the topic or leave |
| 08:31.13 | darkus | ok |
| 08:31.26 | darkus | thx |
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| 09:29.11 | Tekkub | anyone run a raid array? |
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| 09:35.51 | Iriel | Yes, ish |
| 09:36.00 | Iriel | I have some software raid (mirroring) going on |
| 09:36.10 | Iriel | and I used to have a software raid 5 array |
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| 09:45.26 | Tekkub | well I'm pondering a RAID0 with two cheap SATA drives, for speed |
| 09:45.45 | Tekkub | I don't really need space, and I'm still kinda iffy about getting a SSD |
| 09:48.07 | Iriel | I'm not sure what 'real world' performance is from a two disk striping array, buti'm sure folks have measured it |
| 09:51.03 | Tekkub | yea I don't know if it's even worth doing, it'd really only be for WoW |
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| 10:06.43 | Iriel | I guess i'd be surprised if that was the best investment for speeding up WoW, but I can't say I've run any profiling on my system while playing to know for sure. |
| 10:10.22 | Thunder_Child | is that really an issue Tekkub? most of wow seems to be cached in ram |
| 10:20.39 | KarlKFI | I thought about getting a 10k drive a month ago |
| 10:21.11 | KarlKFI | realized that for less than the price of a 300gb 10k drive i could get another 4gb ram |
| 10:21.54 | KarlKFI | ssd's are tempting, but keep in mind their write speed is the same as 7.2k drives |
| 10:22.11 | KarlKFI | but their read speed is a lot faster |
| 10:22.19 | KarlKFI | and they're pretty expensive |
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| 10:51.31 | AbsoRayne | oh hai |
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| 10:58.04 | XTZGZoReX | Bleh. |
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| 11:57.34 | cbreak | KarlKFI: the main benefit of SSDs is not the speed of reading but the speed of seeking |
| 11:58.15 | cbreak | SSDs are great for the OS disk, or other drives on which data resides that is often read |
| 11:58.49 | cbreak | they are completely immune to fragmentation related speed penalties on reading. Their problem is writing. |
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| 12:39.38 | zenzelezz | cbreak: IIRC, SSD seek time is constant? |
| 12:40.01 | cbreak | it's random access, correct |
| 12:40.19 | cbreak | so there's no seeking |
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| 13:11.36 | p3lim | any wowi admins awake? |
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| 13:34.05 | cladhaire | p3lim: why |
| 13:34.44 | sacarasc | easier to do an attack when they're asleep |
| 13:34.46 | sacarasc | duh |
| 13:34.58 | p3lim | sacarasc: <3 |
| 13:35.31 | p3lim | Just need to move one of my addons to a different category |
| 13:35.36 | cladhaire | then PM one of us |
| 13:35.42 | cladhaire | or tell us |
| 13:35.44 | Matrix110 | cbreak thats not entirely true though SSDs have different seek times (its minimal though and still far less than any mechanical HDD has :P) |
| 13:43.59 | p3lim | cladhaire: youre able to do that kind of action? |
| 13:53.03 | zenzelezz | p3lim: I'm guessing that's why he said "us" :-p |
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| 14:51.05 | Antiarc | Dear everyone: Save gold. Love, me. -> http://www.wowace.com/projects/aieeeeee/ |
| 14:52.15 | Fisker- | your addon sucks on account of me being invulnerable to fall damage |
| 14:52.31 | Kalroth | hahah Antiarc |
| 14:52.43 | Kalroth | You must be REALLY bored :P |
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| 15:07.27 | cladhaire | p3lim: given that I'm wowi staff, yes. |
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| 15:20.30 | Antiarc | http://www.wowace.com/projects/aieeeeee/ <-- there, proper description |
| 15:22.50 | p3lim | looks like a good addon :) |
| 15:22.58 | p3lim | anyone here good with sourceflags? |
| 15:24.01 | p3lim | would like to get some explanation on this line: CombatLog_Object_IsA(sourceFlags, bit.bor(0x00000008,0x00000040,0x00000100,0x00000400)) |
| 15:24.09 | p3lim | (used inside an event handler for CLEU) |
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| 15:27.31 | cladhaire | what about it? |
| 15:27.37 | cladhaire | those are bitmask constants |
| 15:27.42 | p3lim | i figured out the constants |
| 15:27.47 | cladhaire | well don |
| 15:27.47 | cladhaire | 't |
| 15:27.55 | cladhaire | the names are way more important than thevalues. |
| 15:28.12 | p3lim | hm? |
| 15:28.27 | cladhaire | it checks to see if the object fulfills the criteria listed |
| 15:28.36 | cladhaire | 0X00000008 is meaningless |
| 15:28.39 | cladhaire | you need the name of the constant |
| 15:28.42 | cladhaire | THEN i can tell you what its doing. |
| 15:29.01 | p3lim | 0x00000008 stands for COMBATLOG_OBJECT_AFFILIATION_OUTSIDER |
| 15:29.13 | cladhaire | then don't use 0x0000008 |
| 15:29.19 | p3lim | why not |
| 15:29.21 | cladhaire | use COMBATLOG_OBJECT_AFFILIATION_OUTSIDER |
| 15:29.24 | cladhaire | the numbers are meaningless |
| 15:29.25 | cladhaire | they could change at any time |
| 15:29.28 | cladhaire | they are meaningless |
| 15:29.31 | p3lim | hm |
| 15:29.33 | cladhaire | use the constants, please. |
| 15:29.43 | zenzelezz | also, they make it way easier to read |
| 15:29.50 | p3lim | what does that bit.bor function do? |
| 15:30.00 | zenzelezz | binary or |
| 15:30.01 | cladhaire | googl eit |
| 15:30.03 | zenzelezz | combines them |
| 15:30.03 | cladhaire | binary or |
| 15:30.12 | zenzelezz | C/C++'s | |
| 15:30.12 | cladhaire | will make a resulting bitmask with the bits of the arguments turned on |
| 15:30.23 | cladhaire | lua> bit.bor(2,4,6) |
| 15:30.23 | lua_bot | cladhaire: luabot:1: attempt to index global 'bit' (a nil value) |
| 15:30.30 | cladhaire | i should fix that |
| 15:30.34 | p3lim | :p |
| 15:30.45 | zenzelezz | so if I'm reading the old change thread right, it's checking for a hostile player outside your party that's under player control and is a playher |
| 15:30.47 | zenzelezz | *player |
| 15:31.03 | p3lim | so, if i have the 4 constants those bitmasks stands for, how would the line look? |
| 15:31.14 | cladhaire | ... |
| 15:31.19 | cladhaire | I dont understand the question |
| 15:31.19 | zenzelezz | the same, except with the constant names |
| 15:31.25 | cladhaire | it would look the same, with the constant names |
| 15:31.26 | cladhaire | >< |
| 15:31.51 | p3lim | doh |
| 15:31.52 | p3lim | :p |
| 15:32.05 | zenzelezz | CombatLog_Object_IsA(sourceFlags, bit.bor(COMBATLOG_OBJECT_AFFILIATION_OUTSIDER,COMBATLOG_OBJECT_REACTION_HOSTILE,COMBATLOG_OBJECT_CONTROL_PLAYER,COMBATLOG_OBJECT_TYPE_PLAYER)) |
| 15:32.30 | XTZGZoReX | 15:51:05 | Antiarc: Dear everyone: Save gold. Love, me. -> http://www.wowace.com/projects/aieeeeee/ -- Fucking awesome, haha. |
| 15:32.39 | foxlit | Assuming they're non-intersectng, just + them |
| 15:36.30 | Fisker- | lets smoke him! |
| 15:36.49 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:36.58 | Fisker- | haste :( |
| 15:37.02 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:37.12 | Fisker- | i couldn't take damage from falling |
| 15:37.19 | Fisker- | And then i was like "Better report this" |
| 15:37.26 | Fisker- | and then the GM was like "lol kill yourself" |
| 15:37.27 | Fisker- | :( |
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| 15:48.57 | cladhaire | So in european locales where they use comma as the decimal separator.. how do they separate a list of numbers (as in coordinates x, y) |
| 15:49.08 | cladhaire | is it always 45,00; 64,00? |
| 15:51.44 | Carancu | ,space is quite common too. |
| 15:51.54 | cladhaire | so just 45,00 64,00? |
| 15:52.01 | foxlit | cladhaire: we hate ourselves. |
| 15:52.28 | foxlit | "45,00, 64,00" I would think |
| 15:52.34 | Carancu | that is. |
| 15:52.35 | cladhaire | oh jesus |
| 15:52.47 | foxlit | You haven't seen the worst |
| 15:52.54 | foxlit | , can also be used as the thousands separator |
| 15:52.58 | cladhaire | no i know that |
| 15:52.59 | cladhaire | i hates it |
| 15:53.01 | cladhaire | but i know that |
| 15:53.07 | cladhaire | I need to some up with ONE format that I can use for everyone |
| 15:53.09 | cladhaire | only |
| 15:53.11 | cladhaire | that doesn't work |
| 15:53.16 | cladhaire | I'm just going to use ; |
| 15:53.17 | cladhaire | fuck it. |
| 15:53.19 | foxlit | Nah |
| 15:53.24 | cladhaire | this localization problem is NASTY |
| 15:53.27 | cladhaire | much worse than I thought it was |
| 15:53.29 | foxlit | gdub the , into a . |
| 15:53.31 | cladhaire | its not string.format() that has the problem |
| 15:53.34 | cladhaire | foxlit: you can't. |
| 15:53.43 | cladhaire | its the actual game widgets that have the problem |
| 15:54.10 | cladhaire | do /run PlayerName:SetText("45.00") |
| 15:54.16 | cladhaire | the widget does the conversion |
| 15:54.28 | foxlit | urgh. |
| 15:54.30 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 15:54.31 | cladhaire | its terrible |
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| 15:54.42 | cladhaire | so I HAVE to haev something diff for where the comma is used as a dec sep |
| 15:54.47 | cladhaire | so ; will have to do |
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| 15:55.00 | foxlit | Hm, you could just move to four-digit coordinates |
| 15:55.12 | foxlit | instead of using the decimal component |
| 15:55.28 | cladhaire | yeah but those are hard for people to read and comprehend |
| 15:55.59 | cladhaire | who wants to see a hack? :P |
| 15:57.02 | cladhaire | local coord_test = CreateFrame("Frame"):CreateFontString(nil, "BACKGROUND", "GameFontNormal") |
| 15:57.02 | cladhaire | coord_test:SetText(string.format("%0.2f", 69)) |
| 15:57.03 | cladhaire | local decimal_sep = coord_test:GetText():sub(3,3) |
| 15:58.03 | AbsoRayne | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12454617660&sid=1 Tanks, thoughts? |
| 15:58.59 | Lonny` | Can't you use squared brackets ? [x][y] ? :P |
| 15:59.13 | cladhaire | it makes it hard to see that they are a single coordinate |
| 15:59.13 | cladhaire | so no |
| 15:59.26 | Lonny` | yeah true |
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| 16:00.15 | Lonny` | Well I guess that semicolon is fine |
| 16:00.58 | Adys | cladhaire: cant you use a colon? |
| 16:01.08 | Adys | eg 45:60; 65:40; .. |
| 16:01.14 | Adys | (I didnt follow so no idea) |
| 16:01.16 | cladhaire | I opted for always using a comma |
| 16:01.20 | cladhaire | Adys: those don't look like coordinates, in the least |
| 16:01.22 | cladhaire | to any locale :P |
| 16:01.33 | Adys | they're map coords? |
| 16:01.37 | cladhaire | yes |
| 16:02.09 | Lonny` | you can use a hyphen ? |
| 16:02.19 | cladhaire | where? |
| 16:02.23 | cbreak | you could switch to fuzzy logic |
| 16:02.40 | Lonny` | instead of semicolon ? xx-yy ? |
| 16:02.57 | cladhaire | again |
| 16:03.00 | cladhaire | doesn't look like a coordinate |
| 16:03.01 | cladhaire | to anyone |
| 16:03.53 | cbreak | and just write hot... warm... warmer... cold... HOT! |
| 16:04.03 | Iriel | 45w40n ? |
| 16:04.33 | Iriel | (I totally dont know what the original problem is 8-) ) |
| 16:04.36 | haste | http://xkcd.com/407/ obligatory |
| 16:04.37 | cladhaire | I can provide 45.00, 61.00 in EN locales, and 45,00, 61,00 in others |
| 16:04.39 | cladhaire | so I'm solved |
| 16:04.48 | cladhaire | Iriel: widgets in Wow take it upon themselves to do localization of numbers |
| 16:04.53 | cladhaire | and the code for it isn't very good :P |
| 16:05.22 | Adys | ummm |
| 16:05.37 | Iriel | cladhaire: ah, so trying to work around the 'not very good' ness |
| 16:05.39 | Adys | cant you fake the dot ? |
| 16:05.43 | cladhaire | Adys: no |
| 16:05.45 | cladhaire | you cannot. |
| 16:05.49 | Adys | well that sucks |
| 16:05.54 | cladhaire | the widget converts it |
| 16:05.56 | cladhaire | and badly |
| 16:06.10 | cbreak | not even when using a text field? |
| 16:06.16 | cladhaire | every single widget |
| 16:06.18 | cbreak | and writing pure char based text? |
| 16:06.20 | cladhaire | :SetText, AddMessage |
| 16:06.25 | cladhaire | do this |
| 16:06.30 | Adys | use some obscure ascii ! |
| 16:06.34 | cladhaire | you can /run PlayerName:SetText("45.00") |
| 16:06.36 | cladhaire | it is converted |
| 16:06.38 | cbreak | That sounds extremely stupid to do. |
| 16:06.41 | cladhaire | dunno how much clearer I can be :P |
| 16:06.59 | cbreak | maybe there's a Unicode dot that looks like a dot but is not |
| 16:07.07 | Adys | · |
| 16:07.11 | cladhaire | I'll take terrible ideas for 200, Alex! |
| 16:07.11 | Adys | all i can come up with =P |
| 16:07.38 | cbreak | I have worse ideas... :) |
| 16:07.43 | Iriel | Can you do 45|r.00 ? |
| 16:08.05 | cladhaire | shows up as 45|r.00 in the fontstring |
| 16:08.14 | cbreak | you could use two widgets, one for "45", one for ".12" |
| 16:08.17 | Iriel | No it doesn't |
| 16:08.40 | Iriel | Unless they've all suddenly stopped responding to control characters? |
| 16:09.02 | cladhaire | i had to convert the pipe |
| 16:09.04 | cladhaire | as per usual |
| 16:09.13 | cladhaire | that appears to work correctly |
| 16:09.15 | cladhaire | should I really rely on that |
| 16:09.23 | cladhaire | or is it better just to localize the damn display |
| 16:09.48 | Iriel | It may be a moderately good interim choice until they fix their bugs? |
| 16:09.57 | Iriel | (or poor implementation choices) |
| 16:10.00 | cladhaire | I can just manually localize each of them |
| 16:10.02 | cladhaire | to something that "works" |
| 16:10.04 | cbreak | my locale uses ., so I am happy :) |
| 16:10.04 | cladhaire | until I hear otherwise |
| 16:11.55 | cbreak | 49°30'02"N, 123°30'30"W |
| 16:12.11 | Adys | oh |
| 16:12.19 | Adys | '" are good choices i guess |
| 16:12.58 | cbreak | ' means minute, " means seconds, in this context |
| 16:13.13 | Adys | it can mean tons of things |
| 16:13.25 | cbreak | in other contexts :) |
| 16:13.26 | Iriel | Yes but... |
| 16:13.38 | Iriel | it's 49(deg)30'02.37 |
| 16:13.38 | cladhaire | Iriel: I can't use |r in a hyperlink |
| 16:13.40 | Iriel | if you get beyond that |
| 16:13.42 | cladhaire | have any other ones up my sleeve? |
| 16:13.52 | Iriel | cladhaire: make it 2 adjacent links 8-) |
| 16:13.55 | Iriel | cladhaire: horrible I know |
| 16:14.12 | cladhaire | this is miserable |
| 16:14.13 | cladhaire | lol |
| 16:14.21 | Adys | cladhaire: if you color the dot, is it still converted ? |
| 16:14.29 | Iriel | You're giving me flashbacks to my issues working with SimpleHTML |
| 16:14.29 | cladhaire | the comma is the issue here |
| 16:14.30 | cladhaire | not the dot |
| 16:14.33 | Adys | er yes |
| 16:14.34 | Adys | the comma |
| 16:14.44 | Iriel | I used to have the craziest hacks to fix all manner of buugs |
| 16:14.45 | cladhaire | how do you end a color? |
| 16:14.49 | cladhaire | and do nested colors work? |
| 16:14.50 | Iriel | |r |
| 16:14.53 | Iriel | and no |
| 16:14.59 | cladhaire | so you can't color mid-hyperlink |
| 16:15.01 | Iriel | At least, i'm pretty sure they dont |
| 16:15.02 | Adys | >_< |
| 16:15.09 | Lonny` | they don't |
| 16:15.38 | Adys | isnt there some invisible char you can fit between both? |
| 16:15.45 | Iriel | Hm, does wow support any invisible space or micro space chars? |
| 16:15.50 | Adys | hehe |
| 16:15.59 | cbreak | a bell character? :) |
| 16:16.05 | Fisker- | Doesn't support "Â " last i checked |
| 16:16.06 | Fisker- | :E |
| 16:16.57 | Lonny` | "xXXyYY" dunno haha :P |
| 16:17.45 | AbsoRayne | This flash game is just too fun |
| 16:18.19 | Adys | which one? |
| 16:19.08 | AbsoRayne | http://armorgames.com/play/2377/straw-hat-samurai |
| 16:19.39 | cbreak | I still have a mild Desktop Tower Defence addiction. |
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| 16:48.15 | AbsoRayne | Hey, can anyone access the Account Management section on the WoW Page? |
| 16:48.27 | Fisker- | EU or US? |
| 16:48.50 | AbsoRayne | US |
| 16:49.50 | Fisker- | EU here :E |
| 16:49.55 | AbsoRayne | ah |
| 16:50.20 | AbsoRayne | I wanted to check if I should go get a new gamecard or not.. |
| 16:52.18 | keias | I added a gamecard last night if that helps any |
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| 16:52.58 | AbsoRayne | It doesnt, because you didnt add it to my account :( |
| 16:53.03 | keias | :P |
| 16:54.09 | keias | Can't get to Account Management now though o_O |
| 16:54.16 | keias | They changed the login page too |
| 16:54.39 | keias | nm, tried again and it worked. |
| 16:55.08 | Fisker- | new login page? :3 |
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| 16:55.15 | Fisker- | nice |
| 16:55.24 | Fisker- | any point or just lulz? |
| 16:56.00 | AbsoRayne | hmm |
| 16:56.38 | AbsoRayne | nope, still 404 for me :? |
| 16:56.42 | AbsoRayne | :/ * |
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| 17:30.57 | Shirik | Anyone here know music theory? |
| 17:31.13 | Shirik | Specifically, is A-C-E# (A-C-F) an augmented sixth? |
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| 17:33.02 | Lothaer | blink blink |
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| 17:35.50 | Shirik | A-C#-E# |
| 17:35.55 | Shirik | I was close |
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| 17:43.05 | cladhaire | so |
| 17:43.07 | AbsoRayne | I still cant access it -_- wtf |
| 17:43.11 | cladhaire | my leather pants may not make it through the night |
| 17:43.17 | cladhaire | they're a women's 16/18 |
| 17:43.22 | cladhaire | which is just a tad too small fo rme |
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| 17:47.18 | ZorbaTHut | I'm kind of amused by how many people just send me an email with the subject "Questhelper.lua" |
| 17:47.33 | Nom- | heh... at level 15 the ony buff gives like 20% crit |
| 17:47.36 | Nom- | so cool :D |
| 17:47.59 | Recompense | Isn't the subject supposed to be something more identifying than that? |
| 17:48.14 | ZorbaTHut | recompense, more specifically, they should probably be *attaching the file* |
| 17:48.20 | ZorbaTHut | not just emailing me the filename |
| 17:48.25 | Recompense | ... hahahah |
| 17:49.00 | Recompense | Well, perhaps if WoW named its saved variables files more robustly, you'd have the info you needed in the filename |
| 17:49.03 | Recompense | Blame Blizzard |
| 17:49.17 | NightHawkTheSane | how much more robust are you looking for, exactly? :P |
| 17:49.18 | ZorbaTHut | I don't think I want people sending me emails with a meg of data in the subject ;) |
| 17:49.34 | NightHawkTheSane | "QuetHelper-[1] => Data Here, [2] => More Data Here.lua"? |
| 17:50.12 | Recompense | Why not, that seems logical and perfectly legible for nested or complicated tables. |
| 17:50.23 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: given the filname limitations, it wouldn't actually be that much. But I hope you're okay with only a few bytes of storage ;) |
| 17:50.38 | ZorbaTHut | this would be substantially less useful than what I currently collect :D |
| 17:50.50 | Recompense | In that case, blame Microsoft |
| 17:51.11 | Recompense | Or whoever's really responsible for the limitation on file names |
| 17:51.24 | NightHawkTheSane | "reality"? or maybe "common sense"? ;) |
| 17:52.19 | Recompense | I don't make the rules, I just arbitrarily rail against them |
| 17:53.49 | Recompense | Glyph of Levitate is neat, but fishing with it leads to mixed results when I forget to refresh it and I fall in the middle of a cast. |
| 17:55.31 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: ping |
| 17:56.06 | Tem | So, |
| 17:56.12 | Tem | There's a ret pally on my server |
| 17:56.15 | Tem | his name is Arthaz |
| 17:56.36 | Tem | I told him his name is high on the "wtf were you thinking" list of fucking dumb names |
| 17:56.47 | Tem | and now he's trying to defend it |
| 17:57.11 | Gnarfoz | hey, we have a paladin in our guild that has an alt paladin (yes, he has two 70 paladins) named "Ashbringer" |
| 17:57.46 | NightHawkTheSane | haha |
| 17:57.58 | Tem | Gnarfoz, so report him |
| 17:58.02 | Tem | like I just did this guy |
| 17:58.21 | Tem | (oh and be sure to /friend him so you can watch a GM force the name change) |
| 17:58.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: so uh... the icons for pvp objectives (like HFP) show up as -GINORMOUS- icons in hudMap |
| 17:58.37 | foxlit | Tem: on a RP server, are you? |
| 17:58.43 | Tem | no |
| 17:58.50 | Tem | I'm just a name nazi |
| 17:58.53 | foxlit | So what are you reporting people under? |
| 17:59.03 | NightHawkTheSane | "general idiocy" |
| 17:59.12 | foxlit | not punishable, I'm afraid |
| 17:59.14 | Tem | it's an oversight that he can use it at all |
| 17:59.19 | Tem | foxlit, I disagree |
| 17:59.20 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: sadly |
| 18:00.13 | Recompense | I'm fairly confident there's a naming rules bit that mentions you can't name yourself after in-game characters |
| 18:00.27 | Recompense | Also, is he aware that Arthas hasn't been a paladin for some time now? |
| 18:01.01 | Tem | I'll let you know |
| 18:01.08 | foxlit | http://www.wow-europe.com/en/policy/namingp1.html knock yourself out :) |
| 18:01.31 | Tem | foxlit, I know they are constantly adding names to the blacklist |
| 18:01.38 | foxlit | The only relevant one you might be able to claim on non-RP ones is "Popular Culture and Media Figures" |
| 18:01.52 | Tem | no, I can claim he's taking a major lore character's name |
| 18:02.01 | foxlit | Unless that's in that policy |
| 18:02.01 | Tem | changing an 's' to a 'z' isn't good enough |
| 18:02.04 | foxlit | You have no claim :) |
| 18:02.04 | Tem | it is |
| 18:02.19 | foxlit | Quote. |
| 18:02.24 | Tem | why do you think Anduinlothar was forced to change his name |
| 18:02.38 | foxlit | RunOn |
| 18:02.48 | Recompense | Yup, there it is, under Intellectual Property |
| 18:03.13 | Tem | foxlit, I've done this before |
| 18:03.15 | Tem | trust me |
| 18:03.29 | foxlit | Oh, I don't doubt that you have. |
| 18:03.45 | Recompense | (apparently, although Blizzard owns the characters, you're not allowed to name them after other fantasy characters they also own) |
| 18:03.46 | foxlit | I just want to see whether the policy agrees with you. |
| 18:04.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Recompense: since they own both, its perfectly valid for them to tell you what you can and can't do :) |
| 18:04.34 | Recompense | Oh, I know :) |
| 18:05.24 | Recompense | Copyright sometimes seems silly, is all |
| 18:06.10 | amro | you're not allowed to name them anything blizzard doesn't want you to use, regardless of copyright |
| 18:06.13 | Tem | AHAHAHAHA |
| 18:06.20 | Tem | He made me duel him |
| 18:06.25 | Tem | I kicked his ass |
| 18:06.29 | Tem | he didn't even touch me |
| 18:06.40 | Tem | so then he sent me a tell saying my spec made me a scrub |
| 18:06.44 | amro | wow you beat arthas? |
| 18:06.51 | Recompense | A scrub who wins duels, apparently |
| 18:07.02 | Tem | so I was going to reply "would you like me to go respec and kick your ass again?" |
| 18:07.05 | Tem | but he logged |
| 18:07.18 | Recompense | I'm sure you're heartbroken :( |
| 18:09.03 | Recompense | Interesting - I'm repeating the behavior I hated having to do in Everquest because it was necessary to complete a quest, but find relaxing in WoW because it's for an achievement |
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| 18:34.51 | Fisker- | suddenly Shirik|Ecole gets slapped |
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| 18:37.36 | p3lim | I know of Parrot, MSBT and SCT, are there any other addons that does something like this? |
| 18:37.45 | p3lim | that and the default blizzard ofcourse |
| 18:39.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: pong |
| 18:39.15 | Shirik | hey ScytheBlade1 |
| 18:39.20 | Shirik | what NS do you use? |
| 18:39.24 | ScytheBlade1 | My own |
| 18:39.29 | Shirik | ... yes |
| 18:39.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 18:39.32 | Shirik | did you write the software? |
| 18:39.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 18:39.38 | ScytheBlade1 | In PHP |
| 18:39.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Works like a dream |
| 18:39.40 | Shirik | ... |
| 18:39.44 | ScytheBlade1 | (ISC BIND) |
| 18:39.44 | Shirik | you go away now |
| 18:40.05 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:40.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Looking to run your own also? |
| 18:41.24 | Shirik | yes |
| 18:41.26 | Shirik | is that on portage? |
| 18:41.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes |
| 18:42.21 | ScytheBlade1 | and *in |
| 18:50.16 | Movix | hi, is there any reason to not call collectgarbage("collect") ? |
| 18:50.28 | ScytheBlade1 | No |
| 18:50.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh sorry |
| 18:50.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I misread |
| 18:50.45 | ScytheBlade1 | You should not because lua's GC is incremental |
| 18:51.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Invoking it manually tends to throw it off for no real benefit |
| 18:51.57 | Movix | ok, i ask because my addon does a lot of garbage (shame on me) and i wounder if it's ok to clear this after the addon did his job |
| 18:52.45 | ScytheBlade1 | You -can- |
| 18:52.49 | ScytheBlade1 | There's nothing stopping you |
| 18:53.01 | ScytheBlade1 | But it's best to let the GC do it's job on it's own |
| 18:53.41 | nevcairiel | (work on the high garbage, imho) |
| 18:53.45 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
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| 18:56.13 | NighthawkTheSane | eggs over easy on cheese toast is epic win. |
| 18:56.23 | Iriel | Personally I'd say if your addon creates a large amount of garbage that's all referenced and then released (so the REFERENCED memory usage spikes up, and then drops back down) then calling collectgarbage may be justified, but it depends WHEN your addon does that |
| 18:56.41 | Iriel | Assume that collectgarbage will hang the system for a second, and make sure it's appropriate 8-) |
| 19:01.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Bah, which file is it that has the UI addons options panel 'tutorial' in it? |
| 19:01.24 | Movix | ok, thx for your answers, i will try to reduce my garbage ! on some actions of my addon, PerfomanceFu shows me 5.xx MiB, after GC this comes back to 1.8MiB; I have no experience whith that and don't know if it's a lot or not, but with 5.xx MiB my addon is on top of list |
| 19:01.51 | foxlit | ScytheBlade1: UIOptionsFrame.lua sounds like a good bet |
| 19:02.10 | ScytheBlade1 | I checked that already :( |
| 19:02.15 | foxlit | Check harder! |
| 19:02.17 | cbreak | Movix: don't create so many tables, especially don't create tables for argument passing only |
| 19:02.17 | ScytheBlade1 | .... or they moved it to the bottom of the file |
| 19:02.18 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 19:02.30 | foxlit | Was always there, iirc. |
| 19:02.39 | foxlit | It's just above function InterfaceOptions_AddCategory |
| 19:02.45 | ScytheBlade1 | First time I saw it, it was at the top of the file |
| 19:02.56 | foxlit | wowcompares.com, go :) |
| 19:03.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Way ahead of you |
| 19:03.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Well |
| 19:03.12 | ScytheBlade1 | To read the doc |
| 19:03.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Not compare ;) |
| 19:03.26 | foxlit | http://wowcompares.com/2408089/FrameXML/UIOptionsFrame.lua << towards the bottom in 2.4 |
| 19:03.38 | ScytheBlade1 | hmm |
| 19:03.45 | ScytheBlade1 | I may just be broke then |
| 19:04.18 | NighthawkTheSane | "may"? |
| 19:04.31 | ScytheBlade1 | ~lart NighthawkTheSane |
| 19:04.31 | purl | puts NighthawkTheSane into a headlock and administers a mighty noogie, rubbing half of NighthawkTheSane's hair of |
| 19:04.45 | NighthawkTheSane | ... of? |
| 19:04.49 | Recompense | Yes, of |
| 19:04.51 | ScytheBlade1 | ask purl |
| 19:05.11 | NighthawkTheSane | that of is more offensive than the actual lart. :p |
| 19:07.10 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:07.17 | ScytheBlade1 | <!-- The Tutorials button LOVES being special --> |
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| 19:08.01 | Industrial | urm |
| 19:08.33 | Industrial | why doesnt this reset after 6 secs? it just finishes the sequence ... /cast Tidal Force/castsequence reset=6 Riptide, Chain Heal, Chain Heal, Chain Heal, Chain Heal |
| 19:08.55 | Recompense | Don't spam the button and it'll reset after 6 seconds |
| 19:09.12 | Fisker- | Roll paladin |
| 19:09.17 | Recompense | reset=# is an idle timeout, not a reset after first use |
| 19:09.18 | Fisker- | Just have to mash one button |
| 19:09.19 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 19:09.49 | Industrial | damnit :P I cant make it reset nonetheless? |
| 19:09.54 | Industrial | Fisker-: well NUH :P |
| 19:10.10 | Recompense | You can build a modifier into the reset to force it to reset when you press the modifier |
| 19:10.15 | NighthawkTheSane | feh, who wants to play a paladin, they're worthless these days. :p |
| 19:10.19 | Industrial | I want to make this haste proc proof :P |
| 19:10.43 | Industrial | oh wait doesnt haste modify the cooldowns too? :S |
| 19:10.47 | Recompense | Yes |
| 19:10.48 | Recompense | ERrr |
| 19:10.49 | NighthawkTheSane | no |
| 19:10.54 | NighthawkTheSane | only the GCD |
| 19:10.57 | Recompense | GCD, yes, cooldowns for spells, no |
| 19:11.08 | Industrial | meh then I have to use a separate button for riptide :( |
| 19:11.27 | Fisker- | shit sucks |
| 19:11.28 | NighthawkTheSane | use clique like everyone else, and its all easy |
| 19:11.28 | Recompense | Odds are you'll adapt and survive! |
| 19:11.35 | Fisker- | Then you roll a paladin lolol |
| 19:11.50 | Recompense | I don't use Clique :) |
| 19:12.14 | ccox | what is clique? |
| 19:12.15 | NighthawkTheSane | fine, s/everyone else/everyone that matters/ ;) |
| 19:12.43 | zenzelezz | the thing I'm not looking forward to about WotLK is that I've finally got my actionbars sorted with the new stuff from 3.0, now I'll have to fit even more abilities |
| 19:12.48 | Recompense | After the main tank said that you can't heal effectively without Clique, when I've been doing it fine for years, I refuse to use it |
| 19:13.09 | Recompense | Zenz, you're only going to be getting about 3-5 new spells from 71-80 |
| 19:13.15 | Recompense | Depending on class |
| 19:13.29 | zenzelezz | Recompense: yes, but I only have two spots on my primary bars :-p |
| 19:13.32 | Recompense | ccox, Clique is an addon that lets you cast spells on unit frames with modified clicks |
| 19:13.39 | zenzelezz | I try to fit everything on main and bottom-left bar |
| 19:14.01 | NighthawkTheSane | zenzelezz: use more bars, macro more, etc. ;) |
| 19:14.02 | Industrial | Recompense: uh, cause hte main tank knows all about healing, not the healer - right? |
| 19:14.08 | Industrial | >_> |
| 19:14.17 | NighthawkTheSane | Industrial: thats not a valid assumption. lots of people know things about multiple classes. |
| 19:14.20 | Recompense | Learn the ways of keybinding ;) |
| 19:14.23 | zenzelezz | NighthawkTheSane: there's a reason I only use two bars :) But yeah, the way I've solved things so far is macros |
| 19:14.26 | NighthawkTheSane | and there's plenty of people who don't know jack shit about their own class |
| 19:14.39 | Recompense | It's especially not a valid assumption because our MT happens to be highly opinionated about everything -_- |
| 19:14.50 | Industrial | NighthawkTheSane: so you are saying Recompense doesnt know jack shit about his own class or healing :D? |
| 19:14.54 | NighthawkTheSane | zenzelezz: i use macros pretty heavily on my druid to condense bear/cast/caster stuff into a single keybind |
| 19:15.05 | Industrial | I assume everyone knows his class best unless they just rerolled |
| 19:15.11 | NighthawkTheSane | Industrial: no, im just saying the "tanks shouldn't tell healers how to heal" is invalid |
| 19:16.54 | Recompense | What about warrior tanks who insist on watching the damage meters for themselves during fights we don't blatantly outgear yet? |
| 19:17.13 | Industrial | ill tell the tank how to tank, as a healer. |
| 19:17.15 | Industrial | ;D |
| 19:17.25 | Industrial | er, being a healer* |
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| 19:41.30 | Lyn | haste, i know its a dumb question but how do i change the names of the channels in ochat? i mean how they are displayed (currently 1. Name: xxx) .. :x |
| 19:41.55 | Anaral | Shirik or anyone else that may know... is the WoWI updater working and/or good? |
| 19:42.09 | Shirik | maybe, no |
| 19:42.17 | Shirik | It is under revision |
| 19:42.24 | Shirik | the current version is end-of-life |
| 19:42.33 | haste | Lyn: just read my comments :p ? |
| 19:42.56 | Lyn | mh :o saw them now, sry |
| 19:42.59 | Fisker- | <-hardcore |
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| 19:47.25 | foxlit | Meh. |
| 19:47.35 | foxlit | WTS [RSS], pst. |
| 19:47.59 | Shirik | done |
| 19:48.01 | Shirik | how did you end up doing it? |
| 19:48.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Take a look, it's pretty simple |
| 19:49.00 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info11609-LinkTradeskills.html |
| 19:49.03 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ awesome |
| 19:49.04 | NighthawkTheSane | Has anyone written a "store all the tradeskill links from all your characters" addon yet, or do I have to write one? :p |
| 19:49.08 | foxlit | Throw a link to RSS feed into .toc; get updater to check those every so often. |
| 19:49.22 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 19:49.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Mine comes close :P |
| 19:49.41 | ScytheBlade1 | http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw20269.png |
| 19:49.55 | NighthawkTheSane | but not quite what i said :P |
| 19:50.12 | NighthawkTheSane | i want to view my shaman's tradeskills while i'm on other characters, for example :p |
| 19:50.12 | ScytheBlade1 | It stores them for one character ;) |
| 19:50.16 | foxlit | urgh, Scythe |
| 19:50.20 | foxlit | local Secondary = {"Cooking", "Fishing", "First Aid"} |
| 19:50.23 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah |
| 19:50.25 | ScytheBlade1 | It's cheap :P |
| 19:50.27 | ScytheBlade1 | It's dirty :P |
| 19:50.27 | foxlit | Use IDs. |
| 19:50.28 | ScytheBlade1 | It works :P |
| 19:50.36 | foxlit | Not on anything other than enUS :) |
| 19:50.42 | ScytheBlade1 | That much I know |
| 19:50.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Where are the IDs? |
| 19:51.08 | Fisker- | I think i'm going to make some BUG REPORTS ScytheBlade1 |
| 19:51.23 | foxlit | Trade skills are actually spells |
| 19:51.30 | foxlit | so you can "cast" Blacksmithing :P |
| 19:51.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Right |
| 19:51.42 | NighthawkTheSane | just lookup the spellid on wowhead or something |
| 19:51.46 | ScytheBlade1 | I do that all the time to open them |
| 19:52.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Well then I'd have to compare that to the ID I got from the UI "somehow" |
| 19:52.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Looking the number up on wowhead is useless if I can't pull it out of the game |
| 19:52.30 | foxlit | GetSpellInfo("Blacksmithing") |
| 19:52.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Tried it |
| 19:52.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Does not have a spellID |
| 19:52.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Unless enchanting and tailoring share an ID of 0 |
| 19:53.23 | foxlit | You're forcing me to start the wow client. I hope you're happy. |
| 19:53.31 | End | the id for cooking is 33359 |
| 19:53.43 | ScytheBlade1 | I can get the IDs easily |
| 19:53.44 | End | First Aid is...27028 |
| 19:53.50 | ScytheBlade1 | I can't pull them out of the tradeskill UI easily |
| 19:53.51 | End | I don't know Fishing |
| 19:53.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Which is the problem |
| 19:53.56 | End | sure you can |
| 19:53.59 | ScytheBlade1 | How? |
| 19:54.00 | End | the the spell link |
| 19:54.01 | End | er |
| 19:54.04 | End | tradeskill link |
| 19:54.09 | End | it's embedded in there |
| 19:54.58 | End | of course, I'm completely unaware of what you're trying to do :P |
| 19:55.09 | Shirik | Fatal error: Unable to find an intialize required class java/lang/Object |
| 19:55.09 | ScytheBlade1 | That actually answers it perfectly |
| 19:55.13 | Shirik | that's a serious problem... |
| 19:55.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: break less stuff |
| 19:55.20 | End | ~failrik |
| 19:55.21 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 19:55.38 | Shirik | anyway |
| 19:55.43 | Shirik | Netbeans 6.5 in RC2! |
| 19:55.45 | Shirik | yayay! |
| 19:55.57 | Shirik | Somehow they jumped from 6.1 to 6.5 |
| 19:55.58 | foxlit | And Ganymede is out :) |
| 19:56.53 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 19:57.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Posted on the RA3 forums, about the game quality |
| 19:57.01 | ScytheBlade1 | "I am actually impressed with how bad this game is. I live in my parents basement and my mom heard so much yelling that she thought I had started playing WoW again. |
| 19:57.05 | ScytheBlade1 | " |
| 19:57.09 | End | haha |
| 19:57.40 | foxlit | Meh, it hasn't actually been that bad |
| 19:57.55 | foxlit | Fallout3, however, crashes every time you attempt to exit it. |
| 19:58.15 | foxlit | I suspect they secretly don't want you to. |
| 19:58.19 | End | I get that too |
| 19:58.25 | Tekkub | Björn... *giggle* his name's bear! |
| 19:58.31 | Tekkub | silly deDEners |
| 19:58.57 | ScytheBlade1 | foxlit: odd. FO3 works great for me, no crashes. RA3 refuses to accept every other order I give the UI |
| 19:59.21 | foxlit | I'm more annoyed by its mission design |
| 19:59.40 | End | hm, I should file a bug report. I've convinced Broker_TradeCooldowns that I have every tradeskill |
| 19:59.41 | foxlit | And the roller coaster difficulty curve of some of those missions. |
| 20:00.13 | foxlit | Taking control away from the player without pausing the game is a crime against humanity. |
| 20:00.32 | foxlit | ("Hey, let's show you some pretty pictures while the AI destroys your base.") |
| 20:02.05 | haste | everybody dance now. |
| 20:02.14 | ScytheBlade1 | See every other order I give it |
| 20:02.18 | ScytheBlade1 | The units don't do anything |
| 20:02.25 | ScytheBlade1 | And then the UI essentially locks up |
| 20:02.40 | ScytheBlade1 | I can scroll the map, but clicking on anything with any button does -nothing- |
| 20:02.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Which is a problem in an RTS |
| 20:03.06 | foxlit | I'd start by replacing your mouse :) |
| 20:03.17 | foxlit | but meh, works for me. |
| 20:03.37 | ScytheBlade1 | My mouse works fine everywhere else |
| 20:03.43 | ScytheBlade1 | In FO3, back under linux, on another computer |
| 20:03.53 | ScytheBlade1 | It's just a generic USB mouse, no special drivers |
| 20:04.09 | foxlit | wired? |
| 20:04.31 | ScytheBlade1 | yup |
| 20:04.51 | ScytheBlade1 | But it's entirely maddening to try and play |
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| 20:22.27 | ScytheBlade1 | foxlit: hope you're happy, it'll work elsewhere now :P |
| 20:22.35 | ScytheBlade1 | (as soon as it's approved) |
| 20:22.41 | foxlit | Oh but will it? :) |
| 20:22.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Should |
| 20:22.51 | foxlit | May? |
| 20:22.57 | ScytheBlade1 | If you have a non enUS client, feel free to test it |
| 20:23.14 | foxlit | cba, I'd have to launch it :/ |
| 20:23.23 | foxlit | But you can test it with a low level character :P |
| 20:23.33 | ScytheBlade1 | And I'd have to install a client other than enUS ;) |
| 20:23.46 | foxlit | Nah, just see if it detects the professions of your level 25 alt |
| 20:24.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh I included a "reset DB" bit |
| 20:24.05 | ScytheBlade1 | It'll work fine |
| 20:24.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I tested it several times |
| 20:24.29 | foxlit | On lower level characters? :) |
| 20:24.40 | ScytheBlade1 | ... oh I see what you're saying |
| 20:24.42 | ScytheBlade1 | And I hate you |
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| 20:25.39 | End | let me guess, only checking max rank of skills? |
| 20:25.56 | Thunder_Child | i smell the scent of fail |
| 20:26.13 | ScytheBlade1 | I didn't think to check if the spellID changed with level |
| 20:26.15 | NighthawkTheSane | you should shower more often, Thunder_Child |
| 20:26.17 | ScytheBlade1 | This saddens me, but it is likely |
| 20:26.38 | NighthawkTheSane | different ranks of skills have differnt spellids :) |
| 20:26.49 | Thunder_Child | NighthawkTheSane: agreed. however the scent eminates from somewhere else |
| 20:26.51 | End | yeah they do |
| 20:27.08 | End | I'm guessing you're only checking against secondary skills at least |
| 20:27.21 | End | otherwise you have profession specialties to deal with too :P |
| 20:27.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah only checking against secondary |
| 20:27.36 | End | I just wrote a similar addon, but it sends the tradeskill links in sekret |
| 20:27.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Much smaller list |
| 20:27.42 | End | oj |
| 20:27.43 | End | oh |
| 20:27.44 | End | fuck |
| 20:27.45 | foxlit | End: you don't have to bother with those |
| 20:27.51 | End | how are you caching your data? |
| 20:28.06 | foxlit | Since you keep your main profession spell regardless of how you specialize |
| 20:28.06 | Thrae | Caching in. |
| 20:28.15 | End | you can open tradeskills from the specialty, and it's -another- link |
| 20:28.24 | End | so your cache might have two entries for the "same" skill |
| 20:28.37 | End | most people won't randomly switch which one they use |
| 20:28.39 | End | but it could happen |
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| 20:31.47 | ScytheBlade1 | I use GetTradeSkillLine() for the key in the table, which always returns the "root" profession |
| 20:31.56 | End | ok, cool |
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| 20:37.23 | ScytheBlade1 | k there, foxlit :P |
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| 20:43.52 | ScytheBlade1 | I know Shirik did at least once |
| 20:43.56 | ScytheBlade1 | The other two I know not |
| 20:44.04 | Shirik | kjnl,' |
| 20:44.11 | Cairenn | lol |
| 20:44.28 | Cairenn | (shh, don't tell anyone, was me) |
| 20:44.46 | End | (I won't say a thing) |
| 20:45.00 | End | :) |
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| 21:00.42 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 21:00.47 | ScytheBlade1 | There's a bug |
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| 21:19.14 | |pez| | QuestHelper stopped workiiing ;___; |
| 21:19.22 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:20.02 | Gnarfoz | I approve. |
| 21:21.31 | Tekkub | lawl: http://www.flickr.com/photos/26681170@N03/3013101323/ |
| 21:22.36 | End | do you have a really big monitor? |
| 21:22.39 | End | I need to know! |
| 21:22.51 | End | it says you do, but I need to hear it from you! |
| 21:25.01 | Shirik | jkl;' |
| 21:25.14 | End | Shirik: ? |
| 21:25.21 | Shirik | That's what happens when you sit next to somg beovhne |
| 21:25.23 | Shirik | someone |
| 21:25.24 | Shirik | ... |
| 21:25.31 | End | ah |
| 21:25.38 | End | that's the second time you've done that |
| 21:26.07 | Shirik | I know... |
| 21:27.03 | Shirik | for the record, I didn't do it |
| 21:27.15 | End | lol |
| 21:28.17 | |pez| | Did you /bravo and approve of my questhelper stopping to work? :P |
| 21:28.47 | End | That was Tekkub |
| 21:28.55 | End | oh, right. |
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| 21:42.18 | NighthawkTheSane | If i have a tradeskill link in a variable, is there a way to open the tradeskill window as if i had clicked on said link, without actually clicking on it? |
| 21:44.07 | End | SetItemRef(link) |
| 21:44.43 | End | if you try to figure out how it works...well...that's a big wtf moment, since actually sending the link to :SetHyperlink() can open the tradeskill window |
| 21:46.04 | NighthawkTheSane | >.> that does not appear to work? |
| 21:46.28 | End | hmmmmmmm |
| 21:46.50 | End | might be you have to trim off the color code and label |
| 21:46.56 | End | so you just have the trade:443543543543 bits |
| 21:47.01 | NighthawkTheSane | hmmmm |
| 21:54.08 | End | NighthawkTheSane: well, I figured out how to extract it |
| 21:54.31 | End | but I think my SetItemRef usage is incorrect |
| 21:54.43 | NighthawkTheSane | End: oh? it shouldn't be that hard, i don't think? I'm being stupid and forgetting how to match | or something >< |
| 21:55.24 | End | select(3, string.find(link, "|H([^|]+)")) |
| 21:57.07 | End | that's not helpful to me at all |
| 21:57.10 | End | I know why I'm failing |
| 21:57.18 | NighthawkTheSane | ahah. no, that works fine, but your pattern is screwy |
| 21:57.30 | End | my pattern is screwy? |
| 21:57.43 | NighthawkTheSane | it returns nil |
| 21:57.47 | NighthawkTheSane | string.find(link, "H([^|]+)") works, though |
| 21:57.57 | End | hrm |
| 21:58.01 | End | well, whatever |
| 21:58.20 | End | I was having trouble getting SetItemRef to do anything |
| 21:58.28 | End | two things were conspiring against me |
| 21:58.36 | NighthawkTheSane | but yeah, SetItemRef(select(3,string.find(link, "H([^|]+)"))) pops open the tradeskill window properly |
| 21:58.41 | End | does it? ok |
| 21:58.42 | End | good |
| 21:58.51 | End | I was trying to run it with the window open already |
| 21:58.58 | Tem | what the fuck, Jarett Lee |
| 21:58.59 | End | since my code needed it open to get the link >_> |
| 21:59.01 | Tem | you're so fucking out |
| 21:59.01 | NighthawkTheSane | heh, yeah, that doesn't quite work properly i dont think :) |
| 21:59.11 | NighthawkTheSane | End: ah, yeah, i just dumped it into a global |
| 21:59.15 | End | yeah |
| 21:59.22 | End | I was in the process of doing that just now |
| 21:59.28 | End | but if you got it to work, I won't bother |
| 21:59.28 | NighthawkTheSane | :) |
| 21:59.52 | NighthawkTheSane | I'd like to know why i'm not able to get find/match patterns to match | correctly, but meh. |
| 22:00.07 | End | is it a special character I wonder? |
| 22:00.19 | End | oh |
| 22:00.23 | End | I know why |
| 22:00.26 | End | er |
| 22:00.30 | End | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:00.58 | End | editbox converts it to || so that it goes across the wire properly |
| 22:01.03 | NighthawkTheSane | ooh. |
| 22:01.04 | NighthawkTheSane | yeah |
| 22:01.14 | End | you need to do...\127 or something like that? |
| 22:01.14 | NighthawkTheSane | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:01.23 | End | hehe |
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| 22:03.52 | NighthawkTheSane | it's \124, but yeah. thanks. :) |
| 22:04.18 | End | np ;-) |
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| 22:05.30 | Mike-N-Go | How is ACSII art 'trade' in the trade channel |
| 22:05.33 | Mike-N-Go | ? |
| 22:06.26 | Anaral | As much as stupid Chuck Norris jokes. |
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| 22:39.33 | Gnarfoz | soo |
| 22:39.41 | Gnarfoz | HideNameplates() is gone |
| 22:39.43 | Gnarfoz | what replaced it? |
| 22:40.48 | Gnarfoz | it looks like nothing did :\ |
| 22:42.35 | Gnarfoz | they just set the cvar instead, fucking great :O |
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| 22:47.46 | |pez| | Hohum, QuestHelper might not have all the quests.... SO that's probablty why it isn't tracking the ones I have left in terokkar... |
| 22:49.06 | |pez| | uh, nevermind, it just randomly breaks. :P |
| 22:49.13 | |pez| | It tracks my quests now. |
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| 22:59.56 | Lyn | mikma, ! |
| 23:00.31 | mikma | lyn: Schimanski! |
| 23:00.38 | Lyn | LEBERWURST! |
| 23:00.39 | Lyn | :D |
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| 23:00.55 | Lyn | mikma, I made myself a Logon screen for xp! i am so proud of myself lol |
| 23:01.15 | cbreak | how often do you log in? |
| 23:01.59 | Lyn | fake_elenril, everytime my pc starts :p |
| 23:02.00 | Lyn | but |
| 23:02.14 | Lyn | x) |
| 23:02.17 | cbreak | hmm... |
| 23:02.26 | Lyn | next is an xp theme |
| 23:02.27 | Lyn | :O |
| 23:02.33 | cbreak | I try to reboot only once a month or so |
| 23:02.49 | Lyn | nyo |
| 23:02.50 | cbreak | remove the window borders, they are ugly :) |
| 23:02.51 | Lyn | xp is on my laptop |
| 23:02.55 | Lyn | so |
| 23:03.03 | Lyn | it reboot or logout often so |
| 23:03.19 | cbreak | I always put mine to sleep |
| 23:03.25 | Lyn | :O |
| 23:03.44 | Lyn | did that ~20 times with vista, but somehow vista crashed sometimes by doing it |
| 23:03.45 | Lyn | :O |
| 23:04.08 | cbreak | I did read that SP3 comes out soon. Or was it sp2? |
| 23:04.28 | bleeter | would be sp2 my guess |
| 23:04.29 | Lyn | sp3 is out |
| 23:04.32 | Lyn | ah |
| 23:04.33 | Lyn | you mean vista |
| 23:04.34 | Lyn | yes |
| 23:04.35 | Lyn | sp2 |
| 23:04.50 | Lyn | i wait for windows7 lol :p |
| 23:04.58 | bleeter | from what I saw, though, windows 7 = vista sp2 = what vista should've been on release |
| 23:05.02 | cbreak | I wait for SnowLeopard. :) |
| 23:05.12 | bleeter | I'll wait for my belly button lint |
| 23:05.12 | Lyn | snowwhat? |
| 23:05.14 | cbreak | you mean WinFS? |
| 23:05.37 | Lyn | i have an .iso for os86x here *g* |
| 23:05.48 | cbreak | I have the DVDs. HA! |
| 23:06.02 | Lyn | :o |
| 23:06.11 | Lyn | dunno if it works on my dell studio 15 :x |
| 23:06.20 | cbreak | it shouldn't. |
| 23:06.42 | Lyn | :O |
| 23:06.58 | linear` | how does m y cooldown frame not have cd text on it when i have omnicc installed |
| 23:07.00 | cbreak | (apple does a few things to try to prevent os x running on non apple hardware) |
| 23:07.22 | bleeter | anyone played with Coda or Lustre filesystems? |
| 23:07.58 | Lyn | cbreak, that isn't normal mac osx so ... |
| 23:08.09 | cbreak | but still |
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| 23:08.24 | cbreak | try it :) but I wouldn't bet on success |
| 23:08.47 | Lyn | nah.. |
| 23:08.52 | Lyn | xp runs fast as hell atm |
| 23:08.55 | Lyn | dont want to |
| 23:09.24 | cbreak | os x is fast too... and you should be able to multi boot anyway :) |
| 23:09.44 | Lyn | :O |
| 23:10.07 | Lyn | osx has to wait till i have enough money for one of these sweet macbooks |
| 23:10.42 | bleeter | or gluster |
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| 23:22.02 | Anaral | Will someone please help me figure out why I keep getting these two errors on load? http://www.pastey.net/101084 |
| 23:22.38 | cbreak | Anaral: you pass the wrong arguments |
| 23:22.46 | cbreak | probably you don't pass the frame as first |
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| 23:23.31 | Anaral | Okay. I've been trying to isolate which addon is the culprit since yesterday, but can't figure it out. |
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| 23:28.24 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: ping |
| 23:34.08 | Anaral | Woot! Found the addon causing the two errors I posted. It's Mobinfo2. |
| 23:36.55 | kd3 | whee |
| 23:36.59 | kd3 | eots is bugging out |
| 23:37.02 | kd3 | the horde can't res |
| 23:37.06 | kd3 | we're 4-capping |
| 23:38.05 | Fisker- | The only times alliance can win |
| 23:38.08 | Fisker- | let alone 4-cap shit |
| 23:38.10 | kd3 | yup |
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| 23:41.14 | Fisker- | I've spent a couple of hours of 4bases/5bases/4bases/5bases/etc. in AB |
| 23:41.19 | Fisker- | stupid alliance |
| 23:41.22 | Fisker- | just lie down and die |
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| 23:44.17 | kd3 | yup |
| 23:44.45 | Lopeppeppy | Betcha my baby shaman is very very dead when I log back in. *sigh* Running all the way back from Azure Watch is gonna suck. |
| 23:44.53 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed is evil :( |
| 23:45.43 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Shirik! |
| 23:45.48 | Shirik | morning? |
| 23:45.50 | Lopeppeppy | How are you holding up? |
| 23:45.54 | Lopeppeppy | ~ugt |
| 23:45.54 | purl | somebody said ugt was Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
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| 23:47.31 | kd3 | whee. looks like it's game-wide |
| 23:47.34 | kd3 | cs just exploded |
| 23:47.43 | Lopeppeppy | Aww, I feel bad for the CS forums sometimes. |
| 23:48.02 | Shirik | ah |
| 23:48.05 | Shirik | yes, ugt |
| 23:48.34 | Lopeppeppy | I know we're in the same time zone, dear, I just like messin' wit' yer head. :P |
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| 23:52.12 | ccox | can't log in right now |
| 23:52.26 | kd3 | auth took a dive |
| 23:52.31 | kd3 | along with a few battlegroups |
| 23:52.48 | zenzelezz | people recruiting for "For the Alliance!" in trade channel... I'm sure that means the horde will be entirely unprepared |
| 23:52.59 | Lopeppeppy | I am feeling unloved by my auth server. |
| 23:53.46 | ccox | (and, of course, beta realms are all down) |
| 23:53.49 | Lopeppeppy | Aww, thank you zenzelezz. I think this could be my hint to make dinner or something. |
| 23:54.03 | kd3 | I'm still QQing over the fact that there wasn't a leet end of beta event |
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| 23:54.34 | ccox | wow - can't connect to http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ |
| 23:54.44 | Lopeppeppy | Big hit. |
| 23:54.46 | ccox | must be some nice net suckage they're having |
| 23:55.15 | Lopeppeppy | The aliens at Area 52 broke out and are holding Blizz hostage, waiting for the Protoss to warp in and conquer our world. |
| 23:55.24 | Lopeppeppy | See, the aliens think our games are reality. *nodnod* |
| 23:55.27 | zenzelezz | maybe the ISPs decided that routing to the WoW servers would be a nice way to charge customers extra |
| 23:55.31 | Shirik | ~x de en ohne dich |
| 23:55.57 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz, do NOT give them any ideas, kk? |
| 23:56.53 | Fisker- | remember Shirik |
| 23:56.55 | Fisker- | you will be hurt |
| 23:57.51 | Lopeppeppy | I would never. |
| 23:58.11 | Fisker- | but i would |
| 23:58.12 | Fisker- | and now |
| 23:58.14 | Fisker- | good night |
| 23:58.19 | Fisker- | i will dream of nehalem and wotlk |
| 23:58.39 | ccox | dream of a GPU to go with that |
| 23:58.51 | ccox | then dream about how much that's gonna cost you |
| 23:59.08 | Lopeppeppy | Dreams are the opium of the masses. |
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