| 00:01.18 | Coren{de} | that "Administrator" on top is good for nothing, I tell you... I hate Vista on a daily basis from Delphi6 :/ |
| 00:03.03 | Shirik | I use Vista on more than a daily basis and I have no problems with |
| 00:03.03 | Shirik | it |
| 00:03.06 | Shirik | ... except this |
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| 00:03.18 | Lopeppeppy | That is not the problem. This is. |
| 00:03.25 | Lopeppeppy | Go back and look it over again, you'll understand. |
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| 00:05.30 | Aznamir | hello all |
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| 00:07.44 | Aznamir | has anyone seen an addon that crashes wow ? |
| 00:08.03 | cbreak | maybe |
| 00:08.14 | cbreak | my wow crashes when I do /chatlist 4 |
| 00:08.17 | Coren{de} | define "crashes"... :D |
| 00:08.26 | cbreak | I didn't bother to find out if it's a wow crash or caused by addons |
| 00:09.03 | Aznamir | ERROR #132 (0x85100084) Fatal Exception |
| 00:09.03 | Aznamir | Program: D:\World of Warcraft\Wow.exe |
| 00:09.04 | Aznamir | Exception: 0xC0000005 (ACCESS_VIOLATION) at 0023:00600D15 |
| 00:09.14 | Aznamir | with the new Prat beta 12 |
| 00:09.19 | Coren{de} | I found out by many crashes that an AddOn shalt not read questlog info until some time after the last event of the loading process... |
| 00:09.20 | Aznamir | no crash if I disable it |
| 00:09.45 | cbreak | does windows wow have a crash reporter? |
| 00:09.54 | cbreak | when WoW crashes here, it sends the log to blizzard |
| 00:09.58 | Aznamir | yes it does |
| 00:09.59 | cbreak | (or apple, not sure :) |
| 00:10.50 | amro | yes |
| 00:10.54 | amro | WoWError.exe |
| 00:12.10 | bnovc | cbreak: yep just saw it twice :D |
| 00:12.27 | cbreak | don't do evil things ... :) |
| 00:14.55 | bleeter | OMG FWF 3.11 IS NO MOAR??? HOW CAN I GO ON!!! |
| 00:14.59 | bleeter | *WFW |
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| 00:22.34 | Coren{de} | Aznamir, to me it sounds as if the AddOn is just a catalyst, not a cause, triggering an access violation from a virtual machine is *almost* impossible... I'd rather wager an error in your installation. Tried the (correct version of) Repair.exe? |
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| 00:24.18 | NeoTron | Findows Wor Forkgroups |
| 00:24.26 | NeoTron | mmm. forkgroups |
| 00:24.33 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, spork |
| 00:24.34 | NightHawkTheSane | ill fork YOUR group |
| 00:25.14 | Aznamir | I ran repair.exe and it is fine |
| 00:25.20 | Aznamir | beta 11 worked fine |
| 00:25.25 | Aznamir | beta 12 crashes wow |
| 00:27.55 | cbreak | make a diff |
| 00:28.00 | cbreak | maybe you can find the bug :) |
| 00:30.01 | Aznamir | diff of what? |
| 00:30.20 | cbreak | between beta11 and beta12 |
| 00:31.40 | Aznamir | authors must have the svn diff |
| 00:32.05 | Aznamir | I just wonder how the heck is that possible |
| 00:32.25 | cbreak | bug in the API |
| 00:32.31 | cbreak | maybe a format string |
| 00:33.34 | alestane | Aznamir: It's occasionally possible, although very rare, for WoW Lua to set off a bug in the WoW engine...if you can identify exactly what's causing it, you should make a bug report post. |
| 00:33.48 | Jeromy | how would I hook the guild tab click event? |
| 00:34.09 | cbreak | SetScript? |
| 00:34.35 | Jeromy | or it's Show() property |
| 00:35.09 | Jeromy | got it, thanks cbreak |
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| 00:42.47 | Tem | is it not possible to undo an svn move command? |
| 00:43.34 | NightHawkTheSane | .. move it back? :P |
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| 00:43.44 | Tem | it deleted files it wasn't supposed to |
| 00:43.53 | Tem | aparently moving a folder deletes whatever is inside of it |
| 00:45.51 | zenzelezz | committed move or only issued command? |
| 00:46.05 | zenzelezz | *issued move command |
| 00:46.18 | Tem | oh duh |
| 00:46.24 | Tem | I haven't commited it |
| 00:46.26 | Tem | thanks >< |
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| 00:50.26 | Shirik|Ecole | soooo |
| 00:50.39 | Shirik|Ecole | as I'm sitting here in this lab, someone from Lockheed Martin comes in and asks "Hey, do you have a resume by any chance?" |
| 00:51.53 | Aznamir | Tem: if you moved a folder on a local system what had SVN content |
| 00:52.02 | NeoTron | Shirik|Ecole: ITGOB? |
| 00:52.04 | Aznamir | you can work with it as if it was at the old place |
| 00:52.10 | Tem | svn move |
| 00:52.15 | Shirik|Ecole | huh? |
| 00:52.19 | Aznamir | in svn? |
| 00:52.21 | NeoTron | Is That Good Or Bad |
| 00:52.28 | Shirik|Ecole | good and bad |
| 00:52.40 | Shirik|Ecole | I didn't have a resume with me, but he asked me to see him tomorrow |
| 00:52.51 | Aznamir | do a revert? |
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| 00:53.39 | Tem | Aznamir, I've got it under control, thanks |
| 00:53.39 | Lunessa | http://www.webmonkey.com/blog/Firefox_s_Private_Browsing__AKA__Porn_Mode__Arrives |
| 00:54.04 | NeoTron | any idea why he came to see you ? seems a bit weird :P |
| 00:54.07 | Tem | old news is old, Lunessa? |
| 00:54.19 | Lunessa | It's from today. :P |
| 00:55.12 | Tem | I heard about this a while back, though, I think |
| 00:55.25 | Lunessa | Chrome has it, Safari has it, etc. |
| 00:55.25 | Tem | like they announced the addition a while ago, maybe |
| 00:55.28 | zenzelezz | it was announced right after Chrome's beta release |
| 00:55.38 | Tem | okay, that's what I though |
| 00:55.41 | zenzelezz | this article seems to say it's been implemented |
| 00:55.41 | Tem | thanks, zenzelezz |
| 01:01.11 | cbreak | in beta |
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| 01:09.38 | Shirik|Ecole | Anyone here know anything about MATLAB? In particular, how to run a function in a DLL |
| 01:10.17 | bleeter | heh, if you're a hunter, spec BM, go get an exotic pet, stable it, respec marks or surv, you can't get your exotic pet out of the stable to abandon it unless you do a full respec back to BM, destable the pet, then spec back to the spec you wanted to be :/ |
| 01:10.22 | bleeter | Shirik|Ecole: soz mate, nfi |
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| 01:11.42 | NightHawkTheSane | bleeter: working as intended, i believe |
| 01:12.33 | bleeter | NightHawkTheSane: would be nice to be able to tell the stable master to abandon the pet for me ;) |
| 01:13.12 | Wobin | http://j-walkblog.com/images2/pdhungover.jpg |
| 01:13.14 | Wobin | aiee |
| 01:13.52 | Corrodias | what? |
| 01:14.06 | cbreak | bleeter: sell it |
| 01:14.14 | Corrodias | what am i seeing, Wobin? |
| 01:14.21 | cbreak | some meat vendor will want it |
| 01:14.40 | Wobin | Lets just say: "Anatomy does -not- work that way" |
| 01:14.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Corrodias: it's called a woman |
| 01:15.01 | NightHawkTheSane | a very badly photoshopped one, though, wow. |
| 01:15.06 | Corrodias | oh dear! |
| 01:15.07 | Wobin | (unless you're a badly built Ikea hat stand) |
| 01:15.59 | Thunder_Child | i know some people that would be happy with just the leg |
| 01:16.25 | Adys | thats some sex leg |
| 01:19.37 | cbreak | ouch. |
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| 01:25.24 | Lunessa | Wow... see what taking heroin does to you kiddies? |
| 01:29.19 | Shirik|Ecole | o.O |
| 01:30.45 | ScytheBlade1 | http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1019609&cid=25649507 |
| 01:31.34 | Shirik|Ecole | rofl |
| 01:31.36 | Shirik|Ecole | that's pretty awesome |
| 01:32.56 | Coren{de} | a+x seems to be a bit overzealous to me... collateral damage etc. |
| 01:33.03 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 01:33.16 | Shirik|Ecole | no |
| 01:33.24 | Shirik|Ecole | it just ensures that the world can execute bin laden |
| 01:33.27 | Shirik|Ecole | that's all |
| 01:33.34 | Shirik|Ecole | I see nothing wrong with this |
| 01:34.53 | Coren{de} | I get the joke, I just think that justice is better served by an institution than by mob law |
| 01:35.16 | cbreak | he's probably dead by now. |
| 01:35.18 | NightHawkTheSane | .. see, that's why it's a joke. |
| 01:35.31 | Shirik|Ecole | so you'd prefer chmod 770 /bin/laden && chown usgov:usgov /bin/laden ? |
| 01:35.54 | ScytheBlade1 | shred -fu /bin/laden |
| 01:35.54 | ScytheBlade1 | imo |
| 01:35.57 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |
| 01:35.59 | Coren{de} | the chown was already done in the 70s, afaik |
| 01:36.04 | cbreak | chroot ftw. |
| 01:36.07 | cbreak | put him into jail |
| 01:36.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik|Ecole: i'd prefer un over usgov, but *shrug* |
| 01:36.14 | Coren{de} | so, just a ug+x |
| 01:36.25 | Shirik|Ecole | must restart |
| 01:36.30 | Shirik|Ecole | bye bye bye |
| 01:36.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik|Ecole needs less windows |
| 01:36.35 | ScytheBlade1 | And less mirc |
| 01:36.38 | Shirik|Ecole | no |
| 01:36.41 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 01:36.42 | Shirik|Ecole | need less crappy NI products |
| 01:36.44 | ScytheBlade1 | now go restart |
| 01:37.07 | ScytheBlade1 | At least he's obedient ;) |
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| 01:43.07 | Shirik | ~~~~~~~~ |
| 01:43.07 | purl | You know, this got old a long time ago. |
| 01:43.36 | cbreak | purl, what is the meaning of life? |
| 01:43.38 | purl | I think you lost me on that one, cbreak |
| 01:43.48 | ScytheBlade1 | One of these days, purl will tackle back. And then you'll know pain. |
| 01:44.37 | Shirik | then I'll use Quick Attack |
| 01:45.29 | ScytheBlade1 | .. what are you, a pokemon? |
| 01:45.36 | Shirik | :D |
| 01:47.19 | Tem | anyone know what the second return of UnitClass is for DKs? |
| 01:47.34 | Shirik | I could go check for you real quick |
| 01:48.03 | Tem | can you? |
| 01:48.14 | Tem | I was under the impression that the beta realms were down |
| 01:48.20 | Shirik | oh |
| 01:48.22 | Shirik | then no I can't |
| 01:48.28 | cbreak | coldarra is down :( |
| 01:52.08 | Tem | I'm mostly curious if it's DEATHKNIGHT or DEATH KNIGHT |
| 01:52.18 | Tem | I think the former is probably a better guess |
| 01:52.27 | Shirik | I agree |
| 01:53.20 | NeoTron | it's DEATHKNIGHT |
| 01:58.16 | mikma | tem: first one |
| 01:58.24 | Tem | thanks |
| 01:58.29 | mikma | "Death Knight","DEATHKNIGHT" |
| 01:58.37 | mikma | i can go and recheck but i'm 95% sure |
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| 01:59.42 | mikma | meh, i can't because <0348> <cbreak> coldarra is down :( |
| 02:02.53 | Shirik | time to goes |
| 02:02.58 | Shirik | I know you all will miss me |
| 02:03.02 | Shirik | but I will return, don't you worry! |
| 02:03.13 | Shirik | aww |
| 02:03.21 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 loves me so much he is trying to hook on to me so I don't leave |
| 02:03.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes. |
| 02:03.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Hook you into the ground. |
| 02:03.37 | ScytheBlade1 | =] |
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| 02:14.09 | Guest58155 | I love ScytheBlade1 too |
| 02:14.35 | Thunder_Child | lies |
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| 02:39.57 | Codex| | whats the best way to lock the haunted mementos and keep it from being thrown to another player by mistajke |
| 02:40.35 | NightHawkTheSane | don't right click it |
| 02:41.05 | mikma | yeah lol |
| 02:52.03 | Codex| | lol |
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| 03:10.43 | Wobin | http://www.questionablecontent.net/images/cogito.png |
| 03:10.50 | Wobin | win |
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| 03:29.32 | vithos_ | haste: bad news, found another situation where the castbar disappers when it shouldn't |
| 03:29.48 | vithos_ | start casting volley, then hit the button again during the GCD |
| 03:34.00 | NightHawkTheSane | 1700 successful casts from 1-375. |
| 03:34.05 | linear` | if a frame is already shown |
| 03:34.07 | linear` | and you do :Show() on it |
| 03:34.10 | linear` | will it call OnShow |
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| 03:37.05 | Xinhuan | linear`: no |
| 03:40.35 | vithos_ | haste: looks like it's probably because castbar.channeling is true instead of castbar.casting |
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| 03:55.17 | kd3 | wiping because of server issues is fail and a half |
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| 03:58.38 | Nom- | kd3: I've been used to that on Thaurissan since I moved there last year. |
| 03:58.54 | Nom- | It's highly irregular for us to *not* have server issues on any given raid night |
| 04:01.24 | vithos_ | haste: in oUF:UNIT_SPELLCAST_FAILED, "if(castbar.casting or castbar.channeling) then return end" fixes it |
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| 04:50.10 | jaxxom | evening |
| 04:50.44 | Seerah | hola! |
| 04:50.55 | jaxxom | thanks Seerah |
| 04:51.01 | Seerah | :) |
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| 04:51.42 | jaxxom | was hoping ammo was at the keys |
| 04:52.23 | Seerah | ~seen [Ammo] |
| 04:52.24 | purl | [ammo] is currently on #norganna (18d 20h 55m 9s) #wowuidev (18d 20h 55m 9s) #wowace (18d 20h 55m 9s). Has said a total of 107 messages. Is idling for 1d 19h 47m 40s, last said: 'hi asmodai'. |
| 04:52.44 | jaxxom | yea, that would make him "away" hehe |
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| 04:52.59 | Seerah | :) |
| 04:55.57 | jojo_ | Any one know what I need to replace this function with? " hooksecurefunc(): ShowNameplates" so the addon works again? used to work before 3.0 |
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| 05:15.21 | Xinhuan | ~seen Iriel |
| 05:15.22 | purl | iriel <n=Iriel@adsl-71-158-244-138.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 3d 35m 26s ago, saying: 'House sweet house, I should have done that ages ago!'. |
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| 05:29.06 | Tem | Opinion time |
| 05:29.21 | Tem | so, should I roll on these t6 pants for my offspec |
| 05:29.28 | Tem | over some alts |
| 05:32.14 | Tem | sigh |
| 05:32.25 | Tem | so, I've lost 2 main spec items to alts |
| 05:32.32 | Tem | and now I get to lose what I actually came for to alts |
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| 05:41.47 | Torhal | Tem: Shoot them. |
| 05:41.58 | Tem | I wish |
| 05:42.11 | Tem | if Illy drops vanq and alts take it again I'm going to be pissed |
| 05:42.20 | Tem | I only came because I might be able to get some feral ear |
| 05:42.21 | Tem | gear |
| 05:47.56 | Lothaer | lol |
| 05:49.43 | NightHawkTheSane | oh man, i want feral ear. |
| 05:50.14 | Lothaer | ~chuck |
| 05:50.14 | purl | [chuck] the freebsd daemon |
| 05:51.59 | Nom- | meh ... t6 doesn't mean much in 8 days |
| 05:52.13 | NightHawkTheSane | er... yeah, it kinda does |
| 05:52.31 | NightHawkTheSane | you're not going to just replace t6 with some quest reward in HF :p |
| 05:52.45 | Nom- | Depends how quick you level |
| 05:53.00 | Nom- | I plan to be level 75 before Sunday night |
| 05:53.22 | NightHawkTheSane | t6 will still last into heroics and potentially raiding, depending the piece, and your luck |
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| 06:03.35 | Nom- | I disagree |
| 06:03.42 | Nom- | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=37114 <-- easily replaces T6 healing for druids |
| 06:04.49 | NightHawkTheSane | as i said, depending on the piece. |
| 06:05.19 | NightHawkTheSane | there were some pieces i didn't get any replacement for on my shaman |
| 06:05.37 | Nom- | some, sure... but not many |
| 06:05.56 | Nom- | somehow your healers have to go from 1000 to 1500 spell damage between 70 and 80 |
| 06:06.05 | Nom- | (note: i know some healers *already* have well over 1000) |
| 06:06.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Eh. I'd say that pieces from non-heroics that can replace t6 level gear will be the minority. |
| 06:06.49 | Nom- | My biggest dissapointment has been how few replacements there are for weapons |
| 06:06.55 | Nom- | armor hasn't been a problem |
| 06:07.08 | Nom- | In beta, my 75 Ret Pally still hasn't replaced Gorehowl |
| 06:07.22 | Nom- | And that's certainly not a great weapon |
| 06:08.03 | Lothaer | wow |
| 06:08.05 | Lothaer | u serious |
| 06:08.22 | Lothaer | i wonder when my priest will repleace the Solarians staff |
| 06:09.17 | Nom- | Looks like I can replace it at 78 |
| 06:09.17 | Nom- | But not before |
| 06:09.17 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, I replaced the badge healing mace with the zuldrak arena reward |
| 06:09.17 | NightHawkTheSane | and i think i replaced the hyjal dps mace with something from a heroic |
| 06:09.26 | NightHawkTheSane | (which actually also replaced my healing weapon, but i digress) |
| 06:11.55 | Tem | fucking sigh |
| 06:12.04 | Tem | I lost t6 chest to a second alt |
| 06:13.19 | Lothaer | ~facepalm |
| 06:13.20 | purl | ACTION facepalms at the situation |
| 06:18.38 | Nom- | anyone here play enhance shaman regularly ? |
| 06:18.57 | Tem | Nom-, I have a level 48 enh shammy! |
| 06:19.01 | Tem | do I count? |
| 06:19.07 | Tem | I regularly play him right now |
| 06:19.13 | Tem | because I'm fucking sick of my guild |
| 06:19.23 | Tem | (see losing my feral set to fucking alts) |
| 06:19.38 | Nom- | heh |
| 06:19.45 | Tekkub | whiner |
| 06:19.51 | Nom- | I was always under the impression they don't need to manage their mana at all |
| 06:19.53 | Nom- | is that right ? |
| 06:20.00 | Tem | not sure |
| 06:20.14 | Tem | I have to use water shield all the time at my level or else I go oom fast |
| 06:20.27 | Tem | it'll probably get better once I get shammy rage |
| 06:20.55 | Tekkub | I remember the roomie creaming his pants over Water Shield |
| 06:21.00 | Tekkub | so I'd say, use it |
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| 06:21.39 | Tem | I finally understand how shammies/pallies/druids felt before BC |
| 06:21.49 | Tem | when they had to heal even if they didn't really want to |
| 06:22.01 | Tem | I only have a glympse at that feeling since I don't mind healing |
| 06:22.06 | Tem | but I'd much rather be feral |
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| 06:22.12 | Tem | GG no raid slots for ferals |
| 06:22.18 | Shirik | why? |
| 06:22.21 | Nom- | I'm just wondering how the new pally lonjevity compares is all |
| 06:22.27 | Tekkub | roll a rogue ass :P |
| 06:22.34 | Shirik | doesn't matter Nom- |
| 06:22.34 | Tem | I fucking hate kitty dps |
| 06:22.40 | Shirik | It is important that things stay the same as they are now |
| 06:22.43 | Tem | I'm a tank |
| 06:22.44 | Tekkub | LF39M MC FULL ON ROGUES! |
| 06:22.45 | Shirik | because priests are the only true healers |
| 06:22.46 | Shirik | rawr |
| 06:23.03 | Nom- | Pallies can tank and dps... leave the priests to heal |
| 06:23.04 | Tem | Shirik, I beat our priests tonight in the black temple "fun run" |
| 06:23.19 | Tem | (which wasn't very fun and has left me in a pretty shitty mode) |
| 06:23.28 | Shirik | Have I mentioned my philosophy on healing priests and how about 75% of them don't know how to heal? |
| 06:23.36 | Shirik | I think you've heard it |
| 06:23.55 | Nom- | Well, they all know how to pad their numbers now :P |
| 06:23.57 | Tem | you're absolutely right about that |
| 06:24.12 | Nom- | Circle of Healing ======> uber high heals done |
| 06:24.14 | Tem | because if they knew how to heal, I wouldn't have beaten the pants off them tonight |
| 06:24.31 | Nom- | stealing all the thunder from my resto druid |
| 06:24.40 | Shirik | It's really strange actually |
| 06:24.48 | Tem | on illy phase 2, I was keeping hots on both our flame tanks while doing more aoe healing than the priests |
| 06:25.09 | Shirik | a lot of people on my server know me as one of the better healers.... and my gear isn't THAT great... (Admittedly, my server is tiny so we kinda all know each other, but still) |
| 06:25.14 | Nom- | Druid AoE heals are fricken awesome now |
| 06:25.33 | Shirik | The fact of the matter is pretty much the rest of the server knows "spam flash heal" |
| 06:25.44 | Shirik | Which is just *stab* |
| 06:25.45 | Tem | heh |
| 06:25.48 | Nom- | I love my druid heals now... fights which used to be hard are now insanely easy |
| 06:25.51 | Tem | spam flash works for pallies |
| 06:25.54 | Shirik | sure |
| 06:25.56 | Shirik | not priests |
| 06:26.14 | Shirik | Also, have I mentioned how much I hate zerg? |
| 06:26.16 | Nom- | Yeah, coz pally healing is built around using flash |
| 06:26.18 | Nom- | otherwise you go oom |
| 06:26.30 | Shirik | It's soooooo boring |
| 06:26.31 | Shirik | gah |
| 06:26.43 | NightHawkTheSane | priest healing: 1) bind every key to CoH, 2) target self, 3) faceroll keyboar, 4) jump around like a retarded monkey |
| 06:26.46 | Shirik | Not to mention the music is blah |
| 06:26.57 | NightHawkTheSane | keyboard* |
| 06:27.03 | Shirik | Sigh |
| 06:27.09 | Shirik | That's the other half of priests that I hate |
| 06:27.18 | Tem | Shirik, build more overlords |
| 06:27.25 | Tem | Shirik, what don't you like about zerg? |
| 06:27.32 | Tem | they're going to win, btw |
| 06:27.33 | Nom- | lol that's the group that tops healing meters, Shirik :P |
| 06:27.50 | Shirik | And that's why I yell at anyone in my raid that links healing or damage meters |
| 06:28.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Nom-: the best part is that they don't go oom doing it. >< |
| 06:28.09 | Shirik | Admittedly, I'm usually at or near the top, but that means nothing. Effectiveness is not measured by numbers |
| 06:28.58 | Nom- | hmmmpf |
| 06:29.01 | Nom- | no beta realms any more? |
| 06:29.11 | Nom- | *sigh* |
| 06:29.21 | Nom- | you go into hospital for a week and then shit like this happens |
| 06:29.37 | Shirik | Case in point: You are assigned to mage tank on Maulgar. You can (A) keep the mage tank alive the entire time and kill the boss, or (B) take a few risks, heal others as well as the mage tank, and fail to heal on one of the off-fireballs and wipe the raid |
| 06:29.38 | Tekkub | that'll lern you to get things lodged in your anus |
| 06:29.48 | Shirik | in case (B) you get the top of the meter, but you've also wiped the raid |
| 06:29.54 | Shirik | is that the better choice? |
| 06:30.09 | Tekkub | is there a choice? |
| 06:30.14 | Tekkub | meters >> all |
| 06:30.21 | Tekkub | if you don't win meters, you fail |
| 06:30.36 | Tekkub | I have no meters |
| 06:30.40 | Nom- | heh |
| 06:30.47 | Nom- | i heal others when i'm healing the mage tank |
| 06:30.53 | Shirik | NOT THE POINT |
| 06:31.01 | Shirik | I healed the maulgar tank and the mage tank the other day, lol |
| 06:31.05 | Nom- | but i'm a druid, so i just keep a full stack of hots on the mage tank |
| 06:31.05 | Nom- | :P |
| 06:31.06 | Shirik | 5 man gruul ftw |
| 06:31.45 | Nom- | 5 man HK you mean ? |
| 06:31.52 | Nom- | You couldn't 5-man gruul due to the grows |
| 06:31.55 | Shirik | yes |
| 06:32.01 | Shirik | we didn't actually down HKM |
| 06:32.04 | Shirik | not the point though |
| 06:32.08 | Nom- | lol |
| 06:32.38 | Shirik | Why can't you down him? |
| 06:32.44 | Shirik | I think you could |
| 06:32.47 | Tekkub | shit, I must name my DK Artie now |
| 06:32.55 | Tekkub | and here he was gonna be Raogrimm |
| 06:33.08 | Nom- | Gruul? |
| 06:33.14 | Shirik | yeah |
| 06:33.15 | Shirik | why not? |
| 06:33.17 | Nom- | You'd need a tank that could tank 25 growths |
| 06:33.28 | Shirik | how do you arrive at that number? |
| 06:33.32 | Shirik | not that I disagree |
| 06:33.50 | Nom- | Coz with only 5 people you wouldn't have enough dps to do it before hitting that number of growths |
| 06:34.18 | Nom- | sorry, 30 growths |
| 06:34.20 | Tekkub | I'll talk 25 growths |
| 06:34.20 | Nom- | 30 is the cap |
| 06:34.31 | Tekkub | hell I could probably fit 30 if I tried |
| 06:34.42 | Tekkub | *tank |
| 06:34.52 | Shirik | I don't think you can make that argument, Nom- |
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| 06:35.26 | Nom- | For 30 growths you'd need 18.5k just to tank the hurtful |
| 06:35.42 | Nom- | i don't know how much he'd be doing in melee at that point |
| 06:35.48 | Shirik | no |
| 06:36.02 | Shirik | How do you argue that with 5 people you need 30 growths |
| 06:36.15 | Nom- | because you have a time limit |
| 06:36.22 | Yssaril | Shirik: takes to long to dps him down with jsut 5 |
| 06:36.22 | Nom- | 30 seconds per growth |
| 06:36.30 | Shirik | ... |
| 06:36.36 | Tem | Nom-, you are aware that gruul has been 5 manned, right? |
| 06:36.39 | Tem | it's been done |
| 06:36.44 | Shirik | You two should never join a debate team, fyi |
| 06:36.59 | Nom- | I've solo'ed gruul too |
| 06:37.05 | Shirik | What you should be telling me is how much DPS I need to get him down |
| 06:37.07 | Nom- | But not under the *normal* game mechanics |
| 06:37.33 | Shirik | don't just keep saying "It takes too long" |
| 06:37.39 | Shirik | Because that is defined by how much DPS I have |
| 06:37.41 | Tem | Nom-, he's been 5manned under normal game mechanics |
| 06:37.49 | Tem | pre-3.0, in fact |
| 06:37.59 | Nom- | You'd need about 6000 dps to get him down in 20 growths |
| 06:38.14 | Shirik | ok so 3000 dps assuming 2 dps classes |
| 06:38.18 | Yssaril | Tem: using an evasion tank? with 100% evasion? |
| 06:38.23 | Tem | the growths stop at something |
| 06:38.28 | Shirik | 30 |
| 06:38.30 | Tem | and they go away completely 5 minutes after that |
| 06:38.38 | Shirik | oh really? |
| 06:38.41 | Shirik | I didn't know that |
| 06:38.42 | Tem | Yssaril, 102.5% avoidance |
| 06:39.00 | Tem | the non-tanking public would know that as evasion tanking |
| 06:39.13 | Yssaril | thats waht i meant :) |
| 06:39.19 | Tem | I find the term ugly |
| 06:39.27 | Tem | dirty rogues |
| 06:40.18 | Yssaril | thats the only way you would be able to do 5 man gruul without being 80 i think |
| 06:40.35 | Tem | I think it's probably doable now |
| 06:40.51 | Tem | your setup might have to be 5 druids |
| 06:40.58 | Tekkub | I think "nah nah nah you can't hit me tanking" is better |
| 06:40.59 | Shirik | ... |
| 06:41.00 | Shirik | Tem |
| 06:41.06 | Shirik | Haven't we already gone over this |
| 06:41.07 | Tem | think about it |
| 06:41.10 | Shirik | Priests are the only healers |
| 06:41.10 | Tem | 5 innervates |
| 06:41.11 | Shirik | period |
| 06:41.22 | Tem | + innervate glyph |
| 06:41.34 | Yssaril | and 5 battle rezez :P |
| 06:41.39 | Tem | eh |
| 06:41.45 | Tem | no one's gonna die |
| 06:41.51 | Tem | there's so much space |
| 06:42.07 | Tem | the shatter mechanic is dumb with less than 20 people doing it |
| 06:42.15 | Tem | there's a boss in Halls of Stone that does it |
| 06:42.19 | Tem | and it's totally lame |
| 06:42.22 | Tem | too easy to avoid |
| 06:42.26 | NightHawkTheSane | it really is |
| 06:42.29 | Yssaril | true though in my expriance people always find a way to screw things up |
| 06:42.49 | Tem | anyway, I'm tired |
| 06:42.56 | NightHawkTheSane | although if you bring 3 melee dps the area is just small enough that they might take some damage if they're mildly retarded |
| 06:42.58 | Tem | mostly from being pissed off at my raid |
| 06:45.04 | Tem|afk | later guys |
| 06:45.07 | Shirik | nini' |
| 06:45.11 | Tem|afk | enjoy arguing agbout 5mgurul' |
| 06:45.18 | Tem|afk | my typeing is super stnading up |
| 06:45.37 | Nom- | If you've got a rogue who can't be hit to tank, sure |
| 06:45.49 | Nom- | That doesn't work post 3.0 though afaik... they nerfed dodge |
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| 06:46.04 | Shirik | I see no reason to argue :) |
| 06:46.17 | Nom- | then all ranged dps |
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| 06:55.37 | Nom- | beta servers are definately offline now, ryeah ? |
| 06:55.53 | Tekkub | yes |
| 06:56.20 | Nom- | seriously considering rolling a shaman now ... not happy about the mana nerf to pallies :( |
| 06:56.33 | Tekkub | nerf? |
| 06:56.42 | Nom- | 33% base mana to 15% base mana |
| 06:56.43 | Nom- | ret |
| 06:57.04 | Tekkub | have you actually PLAYED ret? |
| 06:57.07 | Tekkub | it's fucking fun |
| 06:57.13 | Nom- | Yes lol |
| 06:57.22 | Nom- | Go OOM still pretty qucik |
| 06:57.50 | Tekkub | I havn't, but then I always tend to the wisdom spells |
| 06:58.04 | Nom- | Yeah, try PvP ... burn teams are deadly |
| 06:58.10 | Tekkub | I don't pvp |
| 06:58.18 | Nom- | You're oom and then have absolutely nothing left to go at them with |
| 06:58.24 | Yssaril | i think they brought pallies mana usage in line with other classes |
| 06:58.30 | Shirik | Anyone here know MATLAB and MEX? |
| 06:58.43 | Tekkub | I know MEXLAB |
| 06:58.50 | Tekkub | wait, no, that was METHLAB |
| 06:59.13 | Yssaril | though the mana burn issue is a problem with the small mana pool ret usually has |
| 06:59.27 | Nom- | usually? always has |
| 06:59.29 | Tem|afk | Anyone use Chrome? |
| 06:59.36 | Tekkub | da |
| 06:59.36 | Yssaril | Tem|afk: i do |
| 06:59.38 | Nom- | I've tried it, Tem|afk |
| 06:59.51 | Tekkub | needs more greasemonkey |
| 06:59.54 | Tem|afk | Yssaril, did your browsing history poof recently? |
| 07:00.13 | Yssaril | Tem|afk: not that i have noticed |
| 07:00.22 | Tem|afk | hmm |
| 07:00.23 | Tekkub | Tem, I seem to lose sessions a lot, I think it happens when chrome updates itslef |
| 07:00.34 | Tem|afk | ah maybe that's it |
| 07:00.43 | Shirik | rawr |
| 07:00.45 | Shirik | time for sleep |
| 07:00.46 | Tekkub | I'll get up one day and have to log in to everything |
| 07:00.46 | Shirik | byes |
| 07:00.55 | Yssaril | history goes back to nov 1st |
| 07:02.46 | Tem|afk | ooh |
| 07:02.48 | Tem|afk | no |
| 07:02.52 | Tem|afk | my problem is my clock |
| 07:03.01 | Tekkub | lern2DLST |
| 07:03.10 | Tem|afk | aparently my machine has decided that it is 1 AM on Sunday November 6th |
| 07:03.11 | Tem|afk | 2011 |
| 07:04.19 | Tekkub | lemonade-wild cherry nerds are the best |
| 07:04.21 | Tem|afk | so it probably purged the old history |
| 07:04.33 | Tekkub | .... until you hit a nerve, fuck that hurt |
| 07:14.17 | Thunder_Child | huh....there is a 2 part The Colour of Magic TV movie |
| 07:14.22 | Thunder_Child | go figure |
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| 07:15.23 | Thunder_Child | as usual it's Wobin's fault |
| 07:20.09 | Wobin | s'true |
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| 07:37.19 | foxlit | damn you, wireless, damn you :( |
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| 07:52.52 | zenzio | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/11/05/funny-pictures-innocence/ |
| 07:55.37 | Thunder_Child | zenzio, /agreed |
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| 09:30.18 | Nom- | combat still the way to level on rogues these days ? |
| 09:30.29 | Nom- | haven't touched my rogue in ages lol |
| 09:33.08 | Thunder_Child | well gaining XP is the way to level these days |
| 09:34.54 | Nom- | ha ha |
| 09:34.59 | Nom- | a smrt ass |
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| 10:38.30 | bleeter | XP's always been the way to level... but I could've sworn that doing random quests with no sense of story flow, lore, world feeling etc. was the way to level these days. |
| 10:39.03 | bleeter | I seem to recall a time where you were practically forced to do some lore foo... now, meh, it's all about the rush to MAXLEVEL |
| 10:41.54 | krka | anyone know if ther are any problems with the patch in Us? |
| 10:42.10 | bleeter | #define problems |
| 10:42.11 | krka | in EU, patchday was yesterday and now they're doing some emergency patch it seems, thnigs are down |
| 10:42.30 | krka | it must be thursday, blizzard could never get the hang of thursdays |
| 10:42.40 | bleeter | yeah, they had rolling restarts across all realms yesterday |
| 10:43.01 | bleeter | lol... weekdays are an illusion, patch weeks doubly so |
| 10:43.26 | krka | true |
| 10:44.40 | bleeter | either way, the game prolly won't be stable until around early december at the earliest. wrath release a week away, then a week of emergency patches, then two weeks for fixing up the snafu stuff that still ain't fixed |
| 10:45.05 | krka | yeah |
| 10:45.18 | bleeter | so with some luck, we can have some fun over the annual break |
| 10:46.07 | bleeter | all in time for late january, the 3.1 PTR and breakage again early Feb ;) |
| 10:46.46 | zenzio | I find your lack of faith disturbing |
| 10:47.21 | nevcairiel | I agree, have some faith |
| 10:47.28 | nevcairiel | Beta was really smooth to the end |
| 10:48.57 | bleeter | I'm sure all the internal testing of migration to 3.0 was smooth, but failed to predict PCT/PCN breakage, pet/mount breakage, etc., or at least have migratory steps in place good to go |
| 10:49.49 | zenzio | I do believe there'll be hiccups, but your estimate seemed a little over the top :-p |
| 10:50.11 | bleeter | if I've told you once, I've told you a bajilzillion times |
| 10:50.17 | bleeter | I never exaggerate |
| 10:50.29 | bleeter | :P |
| 10:51.17 | zenzio | that's irrelevant, I have both poor memory and poor skills in comprehension! |
| 10:51.28 | bleeter | hehe :) |
| 10:52.17 | zenzio | I'm considering asking for a week off from work, either the week after release or the week after the week after release... so I don't fall behind my guild :-o |
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| 11:01.19 | Adys | bleeter: you run wow under wine dont you? |
| 11:02.06 | Adys | krka: same question |
| 11:02.39 | bleeter | Adys: from time to time. not atm, coz something's killed my machine dead |
| 11:02.45 | Adys | oh |
| 11:02.51 | Adys | did recently? (since 3.0.2) |
| 11:02.54 | Adys | (or beta) |
| 11:03.20 | bleeter | yeah, I think I got to run 3.0.2 before it exploded |
| 11:03.23 | bleeter | yup... I did |
| 11:03.45 | Adys | http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15926 http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15925 |
| 11:03.51 | Adys | Did either bugs happen to you? |
| 11:04.05 | bleeter | lemme look, I recall kd3 bitching about pulse and alsa |
| 11:04.23 | Adys | Dont have pulse installed on here |
| 11:04.33 | Adys | kd3: if you're around, same question |
| 11:05.55 | bleeter | Adys: neither of those that I'm aware of, but to be brutally honest I wasn't really looking for such behaviour. My Linux machine is my AH's 2nd account, maybe used 3 or 4 times a day |
| 11:06.34 | Adys | if you restart the game once in a while, 15926 is obvious |
| 11:07.10 | bleeter | if the game is it's own login and starts it's X server up, you prolly wouldn't see it ;) |
| 11:07.27 | Adys | bler |
| 11:07.38 | bleeter | aye |
| 11:08.43 | cladhaire | Adys: I lost the ability for my wow to load 2d textures |
| 11:08.47 | cladhaire | under wine |
| 11:08.54 | Adys | how so? |
| 11:09.05 | cladhaire | anywhere there is something that is not a model |
| 11:09.06 | cladhaire | it appears black |
| 11:09.08 | Adys | Icons, UI etc ? |
| 11:09.15 | cladhaire | think the character selection screen |
| 11:09.17 | Adys | seen this happen under ATI |
| 11:09.18 | cladhaire | I can see the background |
| 11:09.19 | cladhaire | and my character |
| 11:09.23 | cladhaire | cannot see anything else, it's all black |
| 11:09.37 | Adys | d3d or opengl? |
| 11:09.41 | cladhaire | opengl |
| 11:09.51 | Adys | graph card? |
| 11:09.52 | bleeter | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:10.43 | cladhaire | ATI 4870 graphics card |
| 11:10.48 | cladhaire | bleeter: which setting for uifaster? |
| 11:10.54 | Adys | umm |
| 11:10.55 | cladhaire | I'm sure i need to customize some things in my config.wtf, just not sure what |
| 11:10.57 | bleeter | i thought d3d was the preferred wine renderer these days. I know I'm using that on my wine box, no problems |
| 11:11.00 | Adys | its the disable Ui lag i think |
| 11:11.11 | cladhaire | and I can't open the video options, since they just appear black |
| 11:11.14 | bleeter | yeah, I can't recall exactly which one it is |
| 11:11.16 | cladhaire | bleeter: if i use d3d my machine crashes |
| 11:11.18 | Adys | bleeter: thats me filing bug 15927 atm |
| 11:11.23 | Adys | d3d crashes under 86xx |
| 11:11.26 | cladhaire | but thats a driver issue on one machine |
| 11:11.35 | bleeter | oh, bummer :( |
| 11:12.12 | Adys | bleeter: http://pastebin.com/d40d2efdd |
| 11:12.20 | bleeter | I've still got issues with Win32 and X1700 ATI driver... but as I never test anything I haven't provided dxdiags and the like |
| 11:12.26 | Adys | WINED3DFMT_R32F whatever that is |
| 11:12.40 | bleeter | nameplates are all screwed up, invariably missing the last few chars on long toon and guild names |
| 11:12.54 | cladhaire | oh yeah i should edit my registry |
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| 11:14.52 | bleeter | why is my IRC lag out at 25 seconds? |
| 11:16.31 | krka | Adys: yes i run in wine |
| 11:16.37 | Adys | krka: see above |
| 11:16.43 | krka | i'll take a look later |
| 11:18.31 | bleeter | Adys: I don't wanna sound dismissive, really. I'd love to investigate, I'm just knackered atm. If I manage to get my machine going again, and hospital visits don't take too long, I'll check it out. |
| 11:18.45 | Adys | Yah no worry at all :) |
| 11:18.49 | bleeter | for now though, really need some shuteye. gnight mate, and g'luck :) |
| 11:18.54 | Adys | night ;p |
| 11:19.02 | bleeter | don't hesitate to ping me again, I might forget :D |
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| 11:23.33 | cladhair_ | Damn |
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| 11:24.36 | cladhaire | Adys, did you see this before I got d/c? http://images.gammatester.com/pics/a760e74b3610b5720c8fbb1e7e5160d0.jpg |
| 11:24.39 | cladhaire | thats the problem that I'm having |
| 11:24.41 | cladhaire | UIFaster 2 didn't fix it |
| 11:24.43 | cladhaire | but removing the registry OpenGL hack did speed things up a little bit |
| 11:24.47 | cladhaire | I should probably compile wine on my own so I can get new bugfixes and stuff. |
| 11:24.53 | Josh_Borke | cladhaire: you suck at wine |
| 11:24.58 | Josh_Borke | you should just quit and install windows |
| 11:25.03 | cladhaire | ZOMG K K |
| 11:25.10 | Adys | oh |
| 11:25.21 | Adys | *scratches head* |
| 11:25.23 | Adys | amro: ping |
| 11:25.28 | cladhaire | and I get that in-game as well :P |
| 11:25.36 | cladhaire | so the names over players heads are black.. and all UI elements |
| 11:25.41 | cladhaire | but the world and my character I can see :P |
| 11:25.54 | Adys | all text too |
| 11:26.45 | zenzio | it's the new profanity filter; they realized people were getting around it, so they censor all text instead |
| 11:26.57 | Adys | CONSPIRACY |
| 11:26.58 | Adys | OSHI |
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| 11:27.54 | Adys | i seriously gotta dual boot windows somewhere tho |
| 11:27.59 | Adys | cant test some stuff |
| 11:31.50 | amro | cladhaire: I had that at one point, but they were whitish scrambled instead of black. wine update fixed it |
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| 11:41.01 | Adys | # |
| 11:41.01 | Adys | SET Sound_EnableDSPEffects "1" |
| 11:41.05 | Adys | What's that? |
| 11:41.08 | cladhaire | amro: yeah i should download and compile wine =/ |
| 11:41.32 | Adys | cladhaire: do so, i dont regret this for wine |
| 11:41.44 | Adys | but might be related to the debian debs still being on 1.1.1. |
| 11:41.55 | cladhaire | <-- debian as well |
| 11:42.55 | Adys | they're stupidly outdated |
| 11:42.57 | hipjipp | are people enjoying their day/night? =) |
| 11:43.06 | Adys | cladhaire: you can also use the ubuntu debs tho |
| 11:43.13 | cladhaire | http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb |
| 11:43.19 | cladhaire | i suspect even those beta packages are up to date |
| 11:43.21 | cladhaire | or more so |
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| 11:44.11 | hipjipp | g'day lyn =) |
| 11:44.11 | Adys | thats the problem |
| 11:44.12 | Lyn | hello ^^ |
| 11:44.19 | Adys | ubuntu debs are up to date, usually within the day |
| 11:44.20 | Arrowmaster | you shouldnt use debian stable for a desktop |
| 11:44.32 | cladhaire | i |
| 11:44.32 | Adys | and debian ones are ... 4-5 months old |
| 11:44.33 | cladhaire | i'm not |
| 11:44.38 | cladhaire | i'm using debian lenny |
| 11:45.21 | Adys | http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/etch/main/binary-i386/Packages |
| 11:45.24 | Adys | 1.1.1 =/ |
| 11:45.34 | Arrowmaster | thats etch |
| 11:45.35 | cladhaire | yes, you'r enot listening. |
| 11:46.02 | cladhaire | what I just linked are non-standard debs |
| 11:46.05 | cladhaire | why won't those work? |
| 11:46.12 | Adys | Which ones? |
| 11:46.16 | cladhaire | http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb |
| 11:46.20 | ZorbaTHut | dammit, blizzard didn't fix a largely-inconsequential achievement-related crash bug I found. :( |
| 11:46.22 | Adys | they're standard O_o |
| 11:46.30 | cladhaire | Adys: not according to the site.. no |
| 11:46.31 | nevcairiel | the intrepid repo has 1.1.7 |
| 11:46.39 | nevcairiel | just dont use etch |
| 11:46.53 | Adys | seems there isnt even a lenny repo.. |
| 11:47.15 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 11:47.16 | cladhaire | i see this now |
| 11:47.16 | cladhaire | heh |
| 11:47.38 | Kalroth | adys broke debian :( |
| 11:47.48 | Adys | if you're lazy you can use the ubuntu repos really, i did this for a while without real problems |
| 11:48.01 | Adys | otherwise, compiling is the way |
| 11:48.07 | Adys | Kalroth broke my heart |
| 11:48.12 | Kalroth | </3 |
| 11:48.17 | Adys | stop whining kalle |
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| 11:55.34 | hipjipp | anyone interested in coming up with an idea for a addon so i can have something to do? :/ |
| 11:56.15 | Adys | a guildcraft saver that only saves tradelinks |
| 11:56.35 | hipjipp | doesnt that exist already? |
| 11:57.02 | Adys | dunno |
| 11:57.35 | haste | oUF patches. |
| 11:57.45 | Adys | fix pitbull too |
| 11:57.51 | Adys | the buff timer resets are annoying |
| 11:58.02 | Adys | and the pvp icon doesnt support the builtin timer |
| 11:58.12 | Arrowmaster | finish any one of the many projects ive started and never finished |
| 11:58.29 | Adys | do an item database |
| 11:58.35 | Adys | it's the new "in" thing to do this year |
| 11:58.40 | Adys | i heard. |
| 11:58.52 | haste | kinda late |
| 11:58.52 | hipjipp | i'd rather play with oUF then.. oUF is fun.. :P |
| 11:59.55 | haste | you can add onshow updating to tags! |
| 12:00.10 | haste | that's possibly the easiest task that needs to get done atm |
| 12:00.41 | Adys | hipjipp: pitbull plx =( |
| 12:01.05 | hipjipp | adys: i'd rather not play with pitbull.. it tries to bite me every time ;( |
| 12:01.15 | Adys | pvptimer! :( |
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| 12:05.00 | hipjipp | if str:match([%s]) then oUF.tags:Show() end ? |
| 12:05.40 | haste | no, it's a bit more complicated than that |
| 12:06.07 | hipjipp | i know.. but i'm terrible with getting things from tables and strings |
| 12:06.35 | haste | what is is that you don't understand? |
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| 12:07.33 | hipjipp | most of it, i'm also not sure about how to use the vararg |
| 12:08.00 | haste | vararg is for functions |
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| 13:34.35 | Maldivia | ~seen ScytheBlade1 |
| 13:34.36 | purl | scytheblade1 is currently on #utah (9d 10h 14m 37s) #wowuidev (9d 10h 14m 37s) ##pxe (9d 10h 14m 37s). Has said a total of 509 messages. Is idling for 11h 30m 59s, last said: '=]'. |
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| 13:43.48 | Nom- | *sigh* |
| 13:43.57 | Nom- | damn u blizz and your restarts in the middle of prime time |
| 13:43.57 | Maldivia | now what? |
| 13:44.16 | Maldivia | prime time... |
| 13:44.28 | Maldivia | ohh, Australia ? |
| 13:44.36 | Nom- | Yeah, they just kicked over the oceanic realms |
| 13:44.48 | Nom- | le sigh |
| 13:44.50 | Maldivia | think they flipped all servers across the globe |
| 13:45.06 | Nom- | yeah, but the login message said "US servers" |
| 13:45.08 | Nom- | not oceanic |
| 13:45.19 | Nom- | 170k left on ZJ when server went down |
| 13:45.24 | Lukian | oceanic are us servers :p |
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| 13:46.00 | Lukian | realm? :p |
| 13:47.54 | Nom- | Thaurissa |
| 13:47.56 | Nom- | +n |
| 13:48.10 | sacarasc | ZJ? KJ? |
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| 13:48.16 | Nom- | ZJ |
| 13:48.19 | Nom- | Zul'Jin |
| 13:48.22 | sacarasc | ah |
| 13:48.23 | zenzio | hai 2 u peppy |
| 13:48.32 | sacarasc | thought it was a big one ;p |
| 13:48.42 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, zenzio. *hugs* |
| 13:48.47 | zenzio | \o/ |
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| 14:12.11 | Bogenlampe | is it ok to ask here if someone wants to test an addon i updated (not sure whether it works 100% the way i want it to)? |
| 14:13.16 | Lopeppeppy | You can ask, but if it's not hosted on a reputable site not a lot of people are going to bite.... |
| 14:15.07 | Bogenlampe | it's not. |
| 14:15.55 | Bogenlampe | i'll still ask: anyone who uses gridstatushots on? (especially druids, paladins or shamans) |
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| 14:22.35 | Remaxer_ | does xperl have a Death Knight support |
| 14:22.38 | Remaxer_ | what i mean is |
| 14:22.46 | Remaxer_ | do runes show up in DK? |
| 14:23.02 | Remaxer_ | with xper |
| 14:23.05 | Remaxer_ | xperl |
| 14:23.08 | haste | try it and you wil see |
| 14:23.13 | haste | s/l/ll/ |
| 14:23.59 | Remaxer_ | Beta is over lols...and even if not i dont have a beta account |
| 14:24.01 | Remaxer_ | ^ |
| 14:24.17 | haste | enjoy the wait :) |
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| 14:26.24 | Lopeppeppy | It's listed as Wrath-ready on Curse, so I would imagine it has DK frames. |
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| 14:29.43 | Kraps | is there a macro or script that will reapply Lightning Shield when it gets used up? |
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| 14:31.02 | Lopeppeppy | Only if you press the button... macros can't sense a condition and respond to it. |
| 14:31.31 | Kraps | meh |
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| 14:44.05 | |pez| | I just discovered the wonders of QuestHelper <3 |
| 14:45.57 | Kalroth | cheater! |
| 14:46.42 | Lopeppeppy | I love LightHeaded. |
| 14:46.52 | |pez| | Kalroth: If you've leveled one, you've leveled them all! ... or something. |
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| 14:47.47 | |pez| | I've started playing with a friend of mine on the same server as my main.. and I decided I wanted to level her and me quickly to catch up with my main. :P |
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| 14:57.25 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, darlin'. |
| 14:57.26 | Shirik | :P |
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| 14:58.00 | Shirik | I has an interview with Lockheed Martin today ^_^ |
| 14:58.35 | Kalroth | Are you going to design airplanes?! |
| 14:58.41 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, Shirik, that's excellent! What time, so I can cross my fingers for you? |
| 14:58.55 | Shirik | 2:30 |
| 14:59.05 | Shirik | I still need to give them my resume though, and I have a problem |
| 14:59.10 | Kalroth | Also please put your name on the planes, so we know which to avoid |
| 14:59.11 | Lopeppeppy | Okay, fingers crossed from 2:15 to 3:30. It's gonna suck to try to type. :) |
| 14:59.16 | Kalroth | "Made by Shirik" |
| 14:59.20 | Lopeppeppy | Problem with resume? |
| 14:59.22 | Shirik | I've always been told that a resume should be 1 page long |
| 14:59.28 | Shirik | And mine is 2 |
| 14:59.31 | Shirik | can I do it both sides? :/ |
| 14:59.36 | elite3vil | Yeah, one page, single sided. |
| 14:59.38 | Lopeppeppy | Mostly true, Shirik. Do not do two sided. |
| 14:59.41 | Industrial | make it 1. |
| 14:59.46 | Shirik | Then I need to figure out what to drop off |
| 14:59.49 | Lopeppeppy | If you must have 2 pages, do two pages. But try to narrow it down to 1. |
| 15:00.00 | Lopeppeppy | If you want to email it to me I can look at it in an hour and give suggestions. |
| 15:00.02 | Kalroth | It should be 1 page, -but- don't kill important info to limit yourself to 1. |
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| 15:03.46 | Shirik | sorry had to change computers :) |
| 15:04.02 | Lopeppeppy | To repeat, if you email it to me, I can look at it in about an hour and make suggestions. |
| 15:04.12 | Shirik | let me touch it up first |
| 15:04.14 | Lopeppeppy | As long as it's openable in Microsloth programs. |
| 15:04.15 | Shirik | because it's missing some things, too |
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| 15:29.27 | Fisker- | can't stop me |
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| 15:31.22 | Fisker- | no |
| 15:31.27 | Fisker- | it's the zombie apocalypse |
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| 15:35.35 | Lopeppeppy | My Shirik, spit him out at once or I'm gettng the ipecac. |
| 15:49.06 | Seerah | Lopeppeppy: what did Shirik put in his mouth this time? ;) |
| 15:49.44 | Shirik | ... |
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| 15:51.51 | Lopeppeppy | No. Fisker is trying to eat him. Bad. |
| 15:51.58 | Lopeppeppy | Bad Fisker-, bad! |
| 15:52.23 | Seerah | ohhhh! |
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| 15:54.26 | Shirik | here Lopeppeppy I give this to you and then go to class |
| 15:54.38 | Shirik | I am missing one person's phone number so I'll add that later |
| 15:55.10 | Shirik | how can I get it to you? |
| 15:55.12 | Shirik | Can you accept DCCs? |
| 15:55.52 | Lopeppeppy | PM |
| 15:56.11 | zenzelezz | now now peppy, you know Shirik likes using the channel for personal business |
| 15:56.28 | Lopeppeppy | No wai! |
| 15:59.22 | Fisker- | it's the zombie apocalypse Shirik |
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| 17:01.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Maldivia: quit stalking me! |
| 17:01.57 | ScytheBlade1 | (ping) |
| 17:03.49 | Maldivia | heh |
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| 17:08.17 | Guest58155 | so Lopeppeppy |
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| 17:08.34 | Shirik | did you get a chance to check it out? |
| 17:09.52 | Shirik | nm I see the email |
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| 17:11.13 | Lopeppeppy | Hi hi. *hugs* |
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| 17:17.34 | cogwheel | kd3: care to update http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7806.html ? ;) |
| 17:18.18 | Lopeppeppy | Ya-ya-ya? |
| 17:27.41 | Movix | hi, I'am looking for the files contained in FrameXML and Addons like on wowcompare but in FR, any hints ? |
| 17:28.18 | Kaso | ~framexml |
| 17:28.19 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/ |
| 17:28.29 | Kaso | use the addon kit to extract it from your install |
| 17:36.58 | alestane | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12354807516&sid=1 : I love problems with simple solutions. |
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| 17:55.30 | erikd | http://dl.omgninja.net/images/ss/black_bear_org.jpg |
| 17:55.45 | erikd | had some fun last night :) |
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| 17:58.20 | pb_ee1 | Hum... is it possible to delete an owned project on Wowinterface? |
| 17:58.35 | Lopeppeppy | As in, your own project? Or someone else's? |
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| 18:06.19 | Lunessa | station |
| 18:06.54 | mikma | BATTLESTATIONS! |
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| 18:07.19 | Lunessa | Fire the Wave-Motion Gun! |
| 18:07.20 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa dear. |
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| 18:10.26 | hipjipp | anyone awake in here? =) |
| 18:10.35 | Kirov | nope |
| 18:10.36 | zenzelezz | erikd: haxx |
| 18:10.40 | Lopeppeppy | morning. |
| 18:10.45 | KarlKFI | no |
| 18:10.49 | KarlKFI | make it go away |
| 18:11.21 | KarlKFI | i dont know how i got to work |
| 18:11.29 | hipjipp | hehe |
| 18:11.31 | KarlKFI | i think i was sleeping on the drive over |
| 18:11.47 | Adys | holy crap, got d3d working under wine, trying it for the first time in months. fps has amazingly improved |
| 18:11.47 | hipjipp | whats the time for you? 10am? |
| 18:11.58 | hipjipp | nice adys |
| 18:12.08 | KarlKFI | yeah 10am |
| 18:12.27 | hipjipp | its 19:12 here (7:12pm) |
| 18:12.43 | KarlKFI | my internal/sleeping clock is all sorts of fucked up |
| 18:12.44 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Karl. *hugs* I'm sorry you're still in a coma. Let me get the CPR cart rolling. |
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| 18:13.01 | hipjipp | =) |
| 18:13.24 | KarlKFI | you'd think 7 hours would be enough |
| 18:13.33 | KarlKFI | guess i need to crash at like 9pm tonight |
| 18:14.05 | KarlKFI | (lol, yeah right) |
| 18:14.15 | Lopeppeppy | If I thought you'd do that... *laugh* |
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| 18:14.50 | KarlKFI | i blame fallout. i must have radiation poisoning from staring at the screen killing mutants for too long |
| 18:15.06 | Lopeppeppy | I thought you were one of the mutants? |
| 18:15.11 | KarlKFI | um |
| 18:15.13 | KarlKFI | no |
| 18:15.17 | Lopeppeppy | You sure? |
| 18:15.20 | KarlKFI | um |
| 18:15.26 | KarlKFI | mo |
| 18:15.34 | Lopeppeppy | Because all the aliens say they're human, you know. |
| 18:15.38 | KarlKFI | the cows have 2 heads |
| 18:15.41 | erikd | zenzelezz: :) |
| 18:16.07 | alestane | Goldfish crakers I know about. Graham crackers I knew about. Goldfish Graham crackers are a new and intriguing concept. |
| 18:16.30 | KarlKFI | what's a craker |
| 18:16.45 | Lopeppeppy | Karl, don't get me started. *redneck jokes inbound* |
| 18:16.50 | KarlKFI | like a cakie cracker? |
| 18:17.03 | durcyn | it's kind of like a honkey, depending on the mullet. |
| 18:17.12 | Lopeppeppy | I got them at an employee fair yesterday as a handout. Giant Goldfish Grahams, cinnamon flavored! |
| 18:17.32 | Lopeppeppy | They're big enough to make a s'more on, but slightly smaller than a regular graham. |
| 18:19.13 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: u geif plox, k'thanks |
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| 18:21.40 | Adys | any idea what the cvar "forceEnglishNames" does ? |
| 18:23.02 | Lunessa | It beats English Names into submission in a cage match! |
| 18:23.54 | cbreak | it rejects all names that can't be found in a Dictionary. |
| 18:24.10 | erikd | are any of you familiar with sockets in .net? |
| 18:24.11 | hipjipp | lol |
| 18:24.13 | cbreak | (maybe) |
| 18:24.45 | KarlKFI | are those different than electrical sockets? |
| 18:24.55 | erikd | just slightly |
| 18:25.22 | Lyn | hm |
| 18:25.32 | erikd | i mean, technically it's all just a series of tubes |
| 18:25.44 | cbreak | are they different from unix sockets? |
| 18:25.51 | erikd | yeah =/ |
| 18:25.52 | KarlKFI | like hampster tubing? |
| 18:25.55 | erikd | that's what's causing me problems |
| 18:26.01 | erikd | i'm used to bsd sockets |
| 18:26.15 | KarlKFI | or more like inner tubes? |
| 18:27.14 | erikd | it's more like hampster tubing |
| 18:27.26 | erikd | that's how electricity gets to your house. electrified hampsters |
| 18:27.43 | erikd | hamster? |
| 18:27.45 | KarlKFI | mmmm tasty |
| 18:28.04 | alestane | They run down special little tubes coated with fleece on the inside and get all staticy-ppofy. |
| 18:28.24 | erikd | that's why when an electrical cord gets cut it smells like burning |
| 18:28.27 | erikd | it's the hamsters |
| 18:28.33 | alestane | So they're full of sparks by the time they get to your house. |
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| 18:29.41 | Lopeppeppy | karl... you seriously gotta get more sleep, dear. |
| 18:29.47 | erikd | the thing that's confusing me about .net sockets is there's like 5 different ways to do the same thing |
| 18:29.51 | Lopeppeppy | and alestane, don't feed the karl! |
| 18:30.28 | KarlKFI | afaik, no hamster in it |
| 18:30.32 | erikd | you can go event driven, something similar to bsd sockets with select() and poll() and then you can hack it by using try/catch for program control |
| 18:31.09 | erikd | and it seems like nobody can agree on which way to do it >< |
| 18:31.29 | cbreak | try/catch for regular program flow? |
| 18:31.35 | cbreak | that seems unorthodox. |
| 18:31.41 | erikd | just a bit |
| 18:32.26 | erikd | that's how you used to check if a string was an integer or not in .net 1. you'd do an integer.parse() on a string and if you caught an exception it wasn't an integer :) |
| 18:32.52 | cbreak | I like Lua. |
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| 18:45.35 | alestane | Her own server, or someone else's? |
| 18:46.02 | Lopeppeppy | The web servers at school. *grin* They're... limping, in great pain, and I cannot be using them while they are being in surgery. |
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| 18:48.07 | Industrial | it starts out with someone grunting YOU FAIL, so its made of win =D? |
| 18:49.58 | Lopeppeppy | If you say so, Indie. |
| 18:51.32 | Industrial | wass supposed to see me in concert tomorrow but it got canceled :< |
| 18:51.38 | Industrial | still seeing Unearthed tho =) |
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| 19:11.13 | zenzelezz | I must say, being a reflection tank on Kil'jaeden is tough |
| 19:11.31 | zenzelezz | I swear they keep spawning in whatever spot they'll be hardest to see |
| 19:11.54 | Lopeppeppy | Of course they do. |
| 19:21.29 | |pez| | I'm getting killed by murlocs in tirisfall ;___; |
| 19:21.48 | Lopeppeppy | Owies. I hate murlocs |
| 19:21.50 | Tekkub | what's the flight path performance test command? |
| 19:22.12 | |pez| | Lopeppeppy: me too! |
| 19:22.21 | |pez| | they hit damned hard. |
| 19:22.22 | NightHawkTheSane | i love murlocs |
| 19:22.27 | Movix | hi, i did not found any events fire when a player out of the friendlist or guildroster comes off or online. Is parsing the chat the only way ? |
| 19:23.30 | Josh_Borke | Movix: no, you must have been doing it wrong |
| 19:23.51 | Josh_Borke | movix: install DevTools then use the dtchatevent command to make it blatantly obvious what event fires |
| 19:23.53 | Josh_Borke | ~devtools |
| 19:23.53 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 19:24.00 | Tekkub | CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM is what you have to watch |
| 19:24.05 | Tekkub | and yes, you have to parse it |
| 19:24.14 | Tekkub | there's lots of other messages on it |
| 19:24.29 | Josh_Borke | i hate you tekkub |
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| 19:27.11 | Movix | ok, i will have a look at devtools, because parsing is quite complicated while localisation string did not seem reliable to me |
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| 19:32.44 | Movix | devtools told me what i already find out. after looking the strings source in the globalstring.lua, i asked my self if it's secure to use the variable names to get the localized strings to parse |
| 19:33.16 | Movix | or if it's better to build my own list of localized strings |
| 19:33.54 | Kaso | Its better to use globalstrings definately |
| 19:34.13 | Movix | hmmm |
| 19:34.22 | Kaso | globals for localizing is basically why they exist |
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| 19:36.29 | Draza | Anyone wanna buy a Glider key? conntect me on msn MDR_Draza@hotmail.com (its the best wow bot) |
| 19:36.37 | zenzelezz | ... |
| 19:36.38 | Kaso | piss off |
| 19:37.32 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 immol'thar is the "final" boss of DM:North, not the prince dudE? |
| 19:37.39 | Lopeppeppy | ccknight, cladhaire: ping? |
| 19:37.46 | zenzelezz | NightHawkTheSane: yup |
| 19:37.49 | Draza | Anyone wanna buy a Glider key? conntect me on msn MDR_Draza@hotmail.com (its the best wow bot) |
| 19:37.56 | Dashkal | Kaelten: he's here as well |
| 19:37.57 | cladhaire | Lopeppeppy: pong |
| 19:37.57 | NightHawkTheSane | zenzelezz: crazy |
| 19:37.59 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Draza!n=jnwhiteh@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire] by cladhaire (cladhaire) |
| 19:38.01 | erikd | WTB A BAN PLEASE |
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| 19:38.06 | Dashkal | danke, cladhaire |
| 19:38.10 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+b *!*@ti511220a080-2240.bb.online.no] by Kaelten |
| 19:38.10 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Draza!n=Kaelten@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/WoWIFA/CurseStaff/kaelten] by Kaelten (Kaelten) |
| 19:38.24 | Lopeppeppy | Thank you claidhaire and Kaelten, that's what I was on about. :) |
| 19:38.26 | cladhaire | was faster to kick him and then take care of the ban, thanks kaelten |
| 19:38.27 | cladhaire | heh |
| 19:38.37 | Kaelten | my client does it in one click :) |
| 19:38.45 | cladhaire | i dont touch my mouse |
| 19:38.48 | cladhaire | clicks ftl |
| 19:38.51 | Kaelten | lol |
| 19:38.56 | erikd | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:39.07 | Kaelten | cladhaire: if you're still on mac, check out linkinus |
| 19:39.09 | Kaelten | it's neat |
| 19:39.15 | cladhaire | I use Limechat |
| 19:39.17 | cladhaire | its <3 |
| 19:39.21 | cladhaire | and has one-click kickban as well |
| 19:39.22 | mikma | ssh + irssi <3 |
| 19:39.24 | cladhaire | but again, wasn't using my mouse :P |
| 19:39.26 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 19:39.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaelten: i saw that, but it's not free :P |
| 19:39.35 | erikd | speaking of macs, do they still make anything remotely close to a mac mini? |
| 19:39.36 | *** kick/#wowuidev [mikma!n=jnwhiteh@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire] by cladhaire (screen -D: force detact) |
| 19:39.37 | cladhaire | damn |
| 19:39.43 | Kaelten | NightHawkTheSane: worth it, imho |
| 19:40.01 | Kaelten | erikd: maybe, rumors abound atm |
| 19:40.06 | alestane | Do they not still make the Mac Mini? |
| 19:40.08 | zenzelezz | woot, got to kill Kil'jaeden before WotLK... now I'm only missing one Outland instance achievement... Slave Pens |
| 19:40.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaelten: it -did- seem nice, I'm just not really sure it had anything that made it hands down better than x-chat aqua |
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| 19:40.27 | mikma | hi! |
| 19:40.27 | erikd | i use ssh + irssi, don't kick me! |
| 19:40.28 | cladhaire | i spelled detach wrong =/ |
| 19:40.30 | cladhaire | mikma: <3 |
| 19:40.33 | Kaelten | alestane: it's out of stock atm |
| 19:40.47 | mikma | cladhaire: screen -x is the most ultimate ever |
| 19:40.49 | Kaelten | rumor is they're reworking it |
| 19:41.01 | mikma | allows you to irc from unlimited amount of computer as the same time :D |
| 19:41.14 | cladhaire | mikma: i know :P |
| 19:41.19 | Cairenn | Kaelten: thanks for taking care of the ban |
| 19:41.30 | erikd | i've wanted a mac to play with but i don't want a huge (and expensive) space user |
| 19:41.34 | mikma | like, atm i have irc open on NIT infront of my screen + putty on pc :D |
| 19:41.49 | NightHawkTheSane | erikd: grab a macbook? >.> |
| 19:42.09 | erikd | no room on my desk |
| 19:42.16 | Kaelten | Cairenn: :) |
| 19:42.23 | erikd | err, folding table :) |
| 19:42.31 | NightHawkTheSane | get a bigger desk, imo ;) |
| 19:43.00 | erikd | i probably will when i move but for now i already have my workstation, fileserver and toy server |
| 19:43.06 | erikd | so that's using a lot of space |
| 19:44.55 | erikd | hmmm, maybe i could pick up a 13" macbook |
| 19:45.25 | NightHawkTheSane | *nod* they're not very big, portable, and fairly cheap, and pretty decent |
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| 19:46.06 | erikd | do they run smoothly? |
| 19:46.14 | erikd | could i run xcode well? |
| 19:46.24 | erikd | and maybe a little wow... :P |
| 19:46.34 | Lunessa | Haha... login to read forums... BHAM! Maintenance. |
| 19:46.35 | NightHawkTheSane | you'd have to ask someone else about that kind of stuff, i dont have one |
| 19:46.49 | cogwheel | BAM |
| 19:46.59 | erikd | ack, they're still $1300 =/ |
| 19:47.00 | zenzelezz | Lunessa: you broke the forums! |
| 19:47.03 | Lunessa | It's not like I even kicked it up a notch. |
| 19:47.05 | Shirik | rawr |
| 19:47.11 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 19:47.31 | cogwheel | U NO TAKE RAWR |
| 19:47.34 | Lopeppeppy | ~hugle Gryphen |
| 19:47.48 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, I can spell. |
| 19:48.08 | Lopeppeppy | Fingers and toes crossed.... |
| 19:48.20 | cogwheel | silly peppy huggling the autoresponder\ |
| 19:48.26 | Shirik | you can uncross them now |
| 19:48.27 | cogwheel | s/\// |
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| 19:49.33 | Lopeppeppy | That quickly, really? |
| 19:49.42 | cogwheel | New Record! |
| 19:49.52 | Shirik | well I actually went at like.... 1:30 or so |
| 19:50.17 | Shirik | and my interview isn't until tomorrow. Today was more of a "find all the companies you're going to have an interview with" |
| 19:50.17 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, I guess I had the times wrong, I didn't cross anything until after 2! |
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| 19:51.00 | Shirik | doesn't matter, it worked |
| 19:51.14 | Shirik | The guys at Insitu loved me apparently |
| 19:51.20 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet! |
| 19:51.32 | Shirik | But I have an interview with both Lockheed Martin and Rockwell Collins tomorrow |
| 19:52.07 | amro | nice |
| 19:52.26 | Lopeppeppy | More interviews is not a bad thing. |
| 19:52.37 | cogwheel | 3 |
| 19:52.45 | Lopeppeppy | 5 |
| 19:52.58 | cogwheel | no... 3 beetles... |
| 19:53.06 | durcyn | there are three lights. |
| 19:53.26 | NightHawkTheSane | four lights. |
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| 19:55.48 | Lopeppeppy | Red versus Blue. |
| 19:57.17 | Lunessa | Not only have I died, I did it while simultaneously achieving enlightenment and inner-peace. |
| 19:57.31 | Lopeppeppy | is that good or bad? |
| 19:58.33 | Lunessa | I don't know. Strangely, inner-peace is accompanied by a nigh-insatiable craving for the flesh of the living. |
| 19:58.55 | bleeter | craazy question of the morning: has anyone tried to Repair a Mac install using Wine and the Win32 Repair.exe? I've no idea how the repair tool works, but I could imagine this *might* work, but probably wouldn't. |
| 19:59.27 | bleeter | (for those who don't know, Mac WoW has no repair tool) |
| 19:59.46 | Lunessa | bleeter: That's... a monsterously bad idea. |
| 19:59.49 | Lopeppeppy | Braaaaainz. |
| 20:00.51 | alestane | bleeter: if the installation is on a drive that you can connect to a Windows machine, you could try copying in the Windows executables (they use the same data files) and running the repair tool there. I don't know about trying to do it through wine though. |
| 20:01.02 | bleeter | Lunessa: any other ideas how to repair an install if a Mac user has a damaged install and damaged disks, without completely re-downloading and reinstalling? |
| 20:01.30 | Lunessa | bleeter: backups are good, m'kay? |
| 20:01.34 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/this_is_amazing.jpg NSFW if your coworkers can read |
| 20:01.55 | Lunessa | The answer is download the TBC client from the blizzard site. |
| 20:03.01 | bleeter | Lunessa: in other words, no you donn't :P |
| 20:03.12 | bleeter | alestane: yeah, been thinking of that. not ideal, but.. heh. |
| 20:03.38 | Lunessa | bleeter: because there isn't really any other way... Unless they Time Machined ? |
| 20:03.44 | alestane | We have a WoW install on our iPod, and we loaded both executables on it so it can be used with either platform. |
| 20:03.57 | alestane | It's a pain to patch, though. |
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| 20:05.49 | bleeter | wonder why Repair's never been offered on the Mac. wonder if anyone ever reverse engineered it to see how it works. |
| 20:05.52 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, that is the most unreal thing I have ever heard of. You win. |
| 20:05.54 | bleeter | hmmmm |
| 20:06.17 | bleeter | yar, alestane's description is quite win indeed |
| 20:06.45 | alestane | And I actually heard the idea from someone on the forums, although I think they had a single-platform install. |
| 20:09.27 | bleeter | ugh, this is going to be a right pain. to repair what appears to be an ever so slightly broken install, gunna have to download original, BC and 3.0.x :/ |
| 20:09.35 | bleeter | thanks for the tips, folks ;) |
| 20:09.36 | Lunessa | I have an external FireWire drive on which several versions of WoW Reside. |
| 20:10.22 | Lopeppeppy | you're too much of a geek for me. |
| 20:10.33 | bleeter | fwiw, this is not my machine I'm attempting to fix, all lack of backups etc. are not my responsibility ... although lack of Repair... ;) |
| 20:11.32 | Lunessa | bleeter: I know. I just never miss a chance to tell users about backing up data. |
| 20:14.18 | bleeter | Lunessa: my friend did backups. however, his teenage daughter decided that his request that she not turn up drunk etc. etc. should be retalited by ... destroying backups. |
| 20:14.51 | Lunessa | bleeter: -obligatory 'is she hot?' question. |
| 20:15.14 | Lunessa | Ok, ok... maybe it wasn't funny. |
| 20:15.42 | bleeter | Lunessa: obligatory 'do you really care whether a 13 year old girl is hot? are you really a pedophile?' response. |
| 20:16.04 | Lunessa | ... Ugh, I assumed 18 as teen-age. |
| 20:16.23 | bleeter | there are more years in the 'underage' teenage bracket, than over |
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| 20:17.34 | bleeter | think my current best option would be go into the local Mac shop, get them to install and patch up, then copy all that to my USB drive. |
| 20:17.41 | bleeter | WTB: [Mac Repair tool] |
| 20:18.00 | Lunessa | bleeter: You can fit the installer on a large flash drive too. |
| 20:18.16 | bleeter | Lunessa: ooh, are you express mailing me one free of charge? |
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| 20:18.33 | bleeter | I thank you so much |
| 20:18.35 | Lunessa | Negative. You live in a land down under. Cobble one up from vegimite. |
| 20:18.38 | p3lim^ | haste: http://pastey.net/100858 |
| 20:18.58 | bleeter | Oh, I thought there'd be a reason you'd point out the bleeding obvious |
| 20:19.23 | Lunessa | Just planting a thought so that next time his machine gets fubared... |
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| 20:24.53 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: loverly :) |
| 20:25.51 | Lunessa | peppy - you're a serious geek. <3 |
| 20:26.30 | haste | p3lim^: version? |
| 20:26.40 | p3lim^ | git |
| 20:27.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: that's disturbing, scary, geeky, and awesome. |
| 20:27.49 | haste | p3lim: then why is your .Buffs a number? |
| 20:28.04 | p3lim | .Auras |
| 20:28.11 | p3lim | and what do you mean by a number? |
| 20:28.13 | haste | you have a .Buffs also |
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| 20:28.37 | Lopeppeppy | NightHawkTheSane, that's me in a nutshell. :) |
| 20:28.57 | p3lim | I only got this bug when i spawned my pet |
| 20:29.03 | p3lim | and all buffs my pet gains |
| 20:29.12 | p3lim | so im pretty sure its my pet's aura frame |
| 20:29.19 | p3lim | http://pastey.net/100859 is the code for it |
| 20:29.42 | haste | it's unrelated |
| 20:30.13 | haste | anyway, git is untested, don't use it |
| 20:30.25 | p3lim | im testing it, and reporting any bugs to you |
| 20:30.29 | p3lim | isnt that the idea? :p |
| 20:30.53 | durcyn | oh, speaking of git, p3lim, have you noticed issues with tags in the past week or so? |
| 20:31.04 | p3lim | which version? |
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| 20:31.42 | durcyn | your .39, latest git oUF |
| 20:31.59 | haste | p3lim: in a way, yes |
| 20:32.24 | p3lim | durcyn: ofcourse, you arent supposed to use the git version |
| 20:32.53 | durcyn | p3lim: duh. just making sure you're aware. reporting bugs, you know. |
| 20:33.31 | p3lim | yeah, the issues with tags is on the oUF part, since its unfinished piece of work |
| 20:34.04 | NightHawkTheSane | ... /cry |
| 20:34.32 | NightHawkTheSane | so im running DM:East for the key/achievement. Get to the Rich thorium veins at the end, and forget i destroyed my mining pick a few days ago to make bag spacec |
| 20:36.21 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: who's your daddy? :P (yes, I'm watching it again hehe) |
| 20:36.43 | Lopeppeppy | bleeter, his name is Robert. :P |
| 20:37.23 | opant | nighthawk: good amount of runecloth in there? |
| 20:37.31 | NightHawkTheSane | in east? hell n o |
| 20:37.44 | NightHawkTheSane | half of it is plants that don't drop cloth |
| 20:37.47 | p3lim | haste: doing some more testing to my aura frame now |
| 20:38.33 | haste | I know what the issue is |
| 20:39.39 | opant | im working on cenarian rep :\ |
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| 20:41.05 | p3lim | haste: ok then :) |
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| 20:41.56 | p3lim | will you push a commit for it tonight? |
| 20:42.02 | p3lim | (you dont have to, i can live without auras until you actually do) |
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| 20:48.59 | Shirik|Ecole | seriously who is that |
| 20:49.05 | Shirik|Ecole | that's the third time I've seen that happen in a month |
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| 20:54.08 | haste | p3lim: no idea |
| 20:54.21 | p3lim | ok :) |
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| 20:57.35 | Shirik|Ecole | ok, I REALLY need to learn Ada now |
| 20:57.49 | nevcairiel | Isnt Ada dead? |
| 20:57.54 | Shirik|Ecole | apparently not |
| 20:58.23 | nevcairiel | well its not that weird language |
| 20:58.24 | Shirik|Ecole | All the talks I had with companies today I told them I wanted to learn Ada and they were all "oh god yes, please do" |
| 20:58.46 | nevcairiel | wtf do people still do in ada |
| 20:58.47 | Shirik|Ecole | take note that these are all mostly avation companies |
| 20:58.51 | Shirik|Ecole | The FAA loves it |
| 20:58.53 | Shirik|Ecole | I've always known that |
| 20:58.59 | nevcairiel | its so old |
| 20:59.06 | Lunessa | Acrobat Pro 8.1.2 is making me very very angry. |
| 20:59.07 | Shirik|Ecole | It's also very strict |
| 20:59.30 | Shirik|Ecole | It's perfect for safety-critical realtime embedded systems |
| 20:59.58 | nevcairiel | Just because it does some more type checking? <.< |
| 21:00.03 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't know |
| 21:00.06 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't know Ada! |
| 21:00.23 | Shirik|Ecole | I think it also does things like every time you end the function you have to specify what you just ended, etc. |
| 21:00.27 | nevcairiel | Well Ada95 is also OO |
| 21:01.14 | nevcairiel | apparently wikipedia agrees with you, about the use in critical systems |
| 21:01.24 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm not making this up :P |
| 21:01.33 | nevcairiel | who knows |
| 21:02.11 | nevcairiel | I'm learning ABAP right now. Worst. Language. Ever. |
| 21:02.47 | Shirik|Ecole | never heard of it |
| 21:03.08 | nevcairiel | its the language SAP uses |
| 21:03.29 | nevcairiel | their own creation based on modulo or something |
| 21:03.35 | nevcairiel | or COBOL |
| 21:03.37 | nevcairiel | what do i know |
| 21:03.39 | nevcairiel | its teh suck |
| 21:04.16 | nevcairiel | you have to use temporary variables for like everything |
| 21:04.33 | nevcairiel | you cannot use expressions inside comparisons or anywhere, for that matter |
| 21:04.40 | bleeter | ohhhh... SAP? |
| 21:04.43 | nevcairiel | if ( (a+b) > 2 ) is not possible |
| 21:04.44 | bleeter | ~comfort nevcairiel |
| 21:04.45 | purl | There, there, nevcairiel. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 21:04.53 | nevcairiel | you need to stuff a+b in an extra var before |
| 21:04.54 | nevcairiel | <.< |
| 21:05.20 | bleeter | I'm sure my two weeks of dealing with SAP resulted in loss of a large percentage of my IQ |
| 21:05.32 | bleeter | merely from smacking my head into the desk so frequently |
| 21:05.46 | nevcairiel | its a university class |
| 21:05.52 | Lopeppeppy | When you bleed out of the ears, stop with the smack. |
| 21:05.58 | nevcairiel | and frankly, the money is in SAP ... but i really dont want to work on it <.< |
| 21:06.11 | Lunessa | COBOL the only language where "do" has an "until" parameter. |
| 21:06.35 | bleeter | yeah, SAP's the big $$... and now you're seeing why. no one really chooses to code for it unless they really really want the mega $ |
| 21:06.53 | zenzelezz | Lunessa: doesn't VB have a version like that? |
| 21:07.09 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: I forget. don't do much VB. |
| 21:07.18 | Shirik|Ecole | nevcairiel: I can partially understand that |
| 21:07.33 | bleeter | nevcairiel: after my two weeks, I decided I'd rather slam my willy into a cheese grater daily than deal with it, so I left the project ;) |
| 21:07.40 | Shirik|Ecole | Eliminating the potential to "randomly" create temporary variables is good |
| 21:07.41 | Lunessa | And once someone has gone the SAP route, the cost to switch is so high no one ever abandons it. |
| 21:07.43 | zenzelezz | Lunessa: googled, seems VB has (or had) a "Do Until ... Loop" |
| 21:07.59 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: Will, I stand corrected. :) |
| 21:08.04 | Shirik|Ecole | However, for something like if ((a+b) > 2) can be done with just the accumulator |
| 21:08.13 | Lunessa | Will/Well |
| 21:08.16 | zenzelezz | Lunessa: well we *are* talking VB... it's questionable if it can be called a language |
| 21:08.31 | nevcairiel | Shirik|Ecole: its just plainly annoying, you start creating vars for everything |
| 21:09.06 | Shirik|Ecole | Gonna run |
| 21:09.10 | Shirik|Ecole | bbl |
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| 21:25.20 | p3lim | haste: is :SetAuraPosition only called once? |
| 21:27.00 | p3lim | also, update line 90 in aura.lua |
| 21:27.20 | haste | why would it be called more than once per update? |
| 21:27.33 | Adys | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=creative_xfi_gift&num=1 |
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| 21:29.02 | p3lim | locals table_insert and math_floor are still there, just letting you know |
| 21:29.56 | p3lim | other than those 3 lines it works perfectly :) |
| 21:31.54 | p3lim | math_floor at line 155 and 156 are the remaining two |
| 21:32.17 | haste | it's already committed |
| 21:32.56 | bleeter | Adys: happy days :) here's hoping nvidia can start opening up RSN ;) |
| 21:33.20 | zenzelezz | so many epics in tonight's BT... reached Council now and already had three Swiftsteel Bludgeons and a lot of other crap |
| 21:33.42 | Adys | bleeter: nvidia is a lot more open to foss than ati at least |
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| 21:35.19 | haste | vithos: you should post a bug report btw (and your fix is invalid afaik) |
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| 21:37.18 | bleeter | Adys: really? there's two 'competing' radeon HD style foss drivers at the moment, both based off ATI's released docs. Last I looked, nouveau was a reverse engineered effort. |
| 21:37.32 | Adys | thing is |
| 21:37.38 | Adys | ATI on linux sucks to bits |
| 21:37.43 | Adys | nvidia on linux works flawlessly |
| 21:38.04 | bleeter | three words... kernel mode switching |
| 21:38.13 | bleeter | *setting |
| 21:39.13 | Adys | sec |
| 21:40.03 | bleeter | Adys: regarding your X leaks... just wondering if it still leaks under something like Wayland (ie, a different X server) |
| 21:40.25 | Adys | it seems pixel shader is completely fucked up in wotlk |
| 21:40.28 | Adys | it crashes d3d |
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| 21:40.38 | Adys | basically its the origin of all 3 bugs |
| 21:40.46 | |Pixel| | rho, de suite |
| 21:41.03 | Adys | ben ouais :( |
| 21:41.13 | Adys | j'ai gagne 80 fps en le disablant |
| 21:41.39 | bleeter | Adys: blizzbug notawinebug? |
| 21:41.45 | Adys | Im not sure |
| 21:41.57 | Adys | it worked fine before some wotlk patch |
| 21:42.14 | Adys | and reverting to old versions of wine doesnt do anything |
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| 21:42.37 | bleeter | hmmm I'm reminded of the transition to the new sound engine, and how Wine showed up the bug. Wondering, just wondering, if the wotlk render engine does have a bug that somehow WIndows glosses over in much the same way |
| 21:44.01 | bleeter | not that I've ever tried, but if I get my machine up and running I'd look, have you tried valgrinding it or similar? lol |
| 21:44.35 | Adys | not yet |
| 21:45.24 | bleeter | spose the other thing to do is compare it on other platforms, a BSD and say OpenSolaris (as egs) |
| 21:46.46 | Anaral | Are there still issues with disembedded libs and wow 3.0? |
| 21:48.07 | zenzelezz | disembedded? |
| 21:49.03 | Anaral | Aye. When you only have one set of libs for all your addons instead of 20 copies within each addon folder. |
| 21:50.04 | NightHawkTheSane | "I built a little empire out of some crazy garbage called the blood of the exploited working class, but they've overcome their shyness, now they're calling me 'your highness'..." |
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| 22:04.46 | Tekkub | wewt new hardware |
| 22:05.46 | NightHawkTheSane | wooo, markley won in oregon. |
| 22:07.18 | p3lim | haste: thanks for fixing those bugs so fast :) |
| 22:07.27 | p3lim | just waiting for the tags now and ive got everything set ;) |
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| 22:14.58 | haste | p3lim: there will probably not be a release in a while.. it's all really just floating around for the time being |
| 22:15.34 | NightHawkTheSane | somewhat disturbing: http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/11/chickens_1_gays_0 |
| 22:17.56 | NeoTron | welcome to the US of A |
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| 22:20.03 | bleeter | lol http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12197387905&sid=1 |
| 22:21.08 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 22:21.45 | cogwheel | NightHawkTheSane: without looking, is that about california? |
| 22:22.56 | NeoTron | cogwheel: ding ding ding |
| 22:23.16 | cogwheel | my fellow citizens confuse me greatly |
| 22:24.15 | amro | you are not alone |
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| 22:26.23 | NightHawkTheSane | bleeter: heh, thats win. |
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| 22:28.08 | haste | revengeance signature =/ |
| 22:29.46 | haste | pleased to meet you! my name is takuchishiyan. I'm a college/university student. fourth year. what's your name? what year student (with a typo)? |
| 22:30.06 | haste | now why would you have that there? |
| 22:30.13 | amro | bleeter: he has a point, especially with horde now needing a badass to cancel out the BE effect |
| 22:30.20 | haste | except for the OMGJAPANESE |
| 22:30.50 | bleeter | NightHawkTheSane: it's a rare day indeed when the forum GMs allow themselves to be trolled, and leave the thread open |
| 22:31.05 | bleeter | such threads are generally total win :) |
| 22:31.07 | NightHawkTheSane | that IS a really good one, t hough |
| 22:31.27 | haste | actually, it's not a typo there, I just failed to read it with the lack of kanji |
| 22:31.36 | bleeter | amro: don't get me started on lolore ;) |
| 22:31.40 | Dewin | *scrolls up* *reads* lol @ forum post. |
| 22:34.08 | bleeter | oh lord grom's still going off in that thread hahaha |
| 22:34.41 | bleeter | something tells me the GMs are letting it live 'coz after the pressure of the past couple of weeks, they need a dang good laugh |
| 22:35.40 | Dewin | ^ |
| 22:35.46 | Dewin | I agree completely. |
| 22:36.02 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm. go to the store to buy bread & make a sandwich, or be lazy and not. |
| 22:36.03 | Dewin | You know, I'd love to know what the lore reasons are for players being able to ressurect after death anyways |
| 22:36.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Dewin: there are none, not everything has a lore "reason" |
| 22:36.44 | NightHawkTheSane | wow is, ultimately, not "hard" rp. |
| 22:37.04 | Dewin | It would be nice to have one, even if it's fairly contrived |
| 22:37.22 | NightHawkTheSane | id rather it be blatantly meta than have some contrived reason |
| 22:37.40 | NightHawkTheSane | but I also don't think highly of rp in wow. |
| 22:37.49 | bleeter | Dewin: I blame undiscovered dragonflight quest lines from either Emerald Dream or a different Xpac ;) |
| 22:37.51 | amro | kind of like heroes in wc3 |
| 22:38.21 | amro | except after all those heroes died, denizens of azeroth decided that it needed 100% temple coverage |
| 22:38.21 | bleeter | eg, 'we're to feakin' lazy to sort the mess out, let's play with these mortals while we mostly sit on our butts' |
| 22:38.26 | Dewin | NHTS: If Blizz actually had a very strict RP server it'd work fairly well, IMHO. |
| 22:38.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Dewin: nah, its not that that's the problem for me, it's the underlying game design |
| 22:39.29 | Dewin | True, but that's ultimately a flaw in any (graphical at least) MMO. |
| 22:39.46 | bleeter | Dewin: except, with the XP rate gain buffs, it's actually quite hard these days to level and stick with lore. for example, yesterday I picked up a quest to go see Yucka Screwspigot in Flame Ridge. I first had to get Kargath and Thorium Point flight paths, giving you an indication of how much lore development my toon had missed. |
| 22:39.47 | amro | you can hardly compete with MUDs in terms of rp flexibility |
| 22:39.58 | Dewin | I used to play (and briefly GM'd) a pay-to-play mud that often had GM run events |
| 22:40.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Dewin: well most current ones, yes. but it's a by-design flaw, because it's moronically difficult to create a properly dynamic world |
| 22:40.48 | cbreak | if WoW had destructable buildings |
| 22:40.53 | cbreak | it had no buildings by now. |
| 22:41.03 | NightHawkTheSane | not to mention that sheer player scale means that a properly dynamic world wouldn't even work. |
| 22:41.03 | cbreak | or tons of construction workers :) |
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| 22:42.28 | Dewin | cbreak: Well, if you think about it, casting dangerous magic would be prohibited in towns and mages would be apprehended before they were able to inflict any serious damage. |
| 22:42.45 | cbreak | we have invis. |
| 22:43.01 | amro | Guards wouldn't suck as much as they do now |
| 22:43.06 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 22:43.14 | cbreak | are you alliance? |
| 22:43.17 | NightHawkTheSane | if we're going that route, guards would have perma-detect invis :p |
| 22:43.29 | cbreak | there was a horseman event in elwyn where he tried to burn down the city |
| 22:43.34 | cbreak | he never managed it. |
| 22:43.36 | bleeter | I'd still love it if guards dismounted you and you lost some city rep if you were found DUI while mounted >< |
| 22:43.39 | Dewin | NightHawkTheSane: Certain guards, and the stormwind government would be paying the mages in their tower a hefty sum for the boon. |
| 22:43.49 | amro | lol bleeter |
| 22:44.05 | bleeter | and prolly some unable to mount in cities debuff for a short period of time |
| 22:44.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Dewin: sure, but that's all relatively meaningless internal affairs. ;) |
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| 22:46.13 | amro | bread and |Jelly| |
| 22:47.46 | |Jelly| | GRAPE JELLY! |
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| 22:55.09 | Dewin | actually it was pesto chicken |
| 23:03.10 | |Jelly| | Maybe I'm an ass but it really makes me mad when I DI someone ... and end up running back. |
| 23:05.05 | cbreak | that should teach you not to DI the tanks during a fight :) |
| 23:08.29 | cbreak | (yes, that was a joke) |
| 23:09.10 | |Jelly| | (I'm the tank) |
| 23:13.03 | cbreak | pala tank! nice to see they still exist :) |
| 23:15.27 | zenzelezz | personally I like the combination warrior+paladin tank |
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| 23:39.20 | |pez| | I just saw this fascinating message when drinking a healing potion... "Cooldown will start after battle" or something similair. |
| 23:39.29 | |pez| | does that mean Ic an drink as many as I want, in one battle? |
| 23:40.37 | [dRaCo] | no |
| 23:40.43 | [dRaCo] | one per battle |
| 23:40.52 | [dRaCo] | then the cooldown starts |
| 23:41.05 | [dRaCo] | once it finishes, you can drink another pot |
| 23:41.08 | |pez| | thaaat's silly. :\ |
| 23:41.12 | |pez| | But ok. |
| 23:41.49 | [dRaCo] | *goes back to reading LaTex books* |
| 23:41.57 | |pez| | or, not really silly, but... dissapointing. |
| 23:42.23 | zenzelezz | |pez|: you should've been around when they implemented that :-p |
| 23:45.00 | p3lim | haste: im guessing its gonna be delayed past the expansion release then.. |
| 23:45.47 | p3lim | and then, if youre playing, im guessing youre leveling some char instead of writing addons (as long you dont encounter some bug, i can stop right up while doing anything to fix something that annoys me :P) |
| 23:47.48 | Syzgyn | Ok, question time: You call someone up, someone picks up the phone and says 'sorry, ____ isn't here'. Do you A) Ask to leave a message, B) Say you'll call back later, or C) Hang up immediately without saying another word. |
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| 23:48.23 | Syzgyn | These motherfuckers who keep calling me keep choosing C |
| 23:49.26 | Thunder_Child | so start saying some thing to the effect of "yes, so and so is here however he/she hates your guts and never wants you to call again" |
| 23:49.28 | p3lim | D) Call back every 5 minutes until you get the one you were searching for |
| 23:49.41 | p3lim | Annoying the shit outta the person who actually picks up the phone |
| 23:49.56 | Syzgyn | Thunder_Child: I don't even know who the hell these people are who are calling, but that's an amusing option |
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| 23:54.31 | mikma | cairenn: hi, these pictures are kinda "not working" -> http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info11135-oUF_Tarnation.html |
| 23:55.07 | Cairenn | hrm, I see what you mean |
| 23:55.31 | mikma | the two from the bottom are fine |
| 23:55.45 | vithos | haste: sorry, i'm a retard. my updater had gone back to the wowi version, from git it works fine |
| 23:55.59 | Codex| | http://scoots.wordpress.com/2007/05/06/ever-just-missed-the-boat/ |
| 23:56.14 | foxlit | Hm, I wonder |
| 23:56.35 | foxlit | Ah yes. |
| 23:56.38 | foxlit | My circle graphics <3 |
| 23:58.18 | foxlit | They'd bloody well rotate in there :/ |
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| 23:59.11 | Dewin | Codex|: The other day I jumped for the boat and was somehow standing on the side of it. |
| 23:59.12 | Dewin | I decided to fall off into the water since I didn't think I'd still be standing on it after the zone. |
| 23:59.42 | foxlit | And they do spin. Hmm :) |
