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| 00:13.12 | Neuro_Medivh | Happy Halloween everyone |
| 00:13.26 | Corrodias | boo! |
| 00:13.31 | Neuro_Medivh | eek! |
| 00:13.35 | Neuro_Medivh | you scared me! |
| 00:17.52 | Shirik | happy halloween |
| 00:18.58 | Wobin | om nomnomnom |
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| 00:21.12 | Sixen | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12065279224 -- Anyone who wouldn't mind giving it a bump will get a hug. |
| 00:29.46 | Dewin | Bah. Swords are annoying. |
| 00:30.11 | Dewin | Note to self: buy dagger next ren faire. Having the sheath hit the ground whenever you sit = annoying. |
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| 00:30.59 | Dewin | (I'm wearing renassaince faire garb for my halloween costume) |
| 00:31.03 | Corrodias | there's a certain style to wearing a sword |
| 00:31.06 | Corrodias | i certainly don't know it |
| 00:32.29 | Dewin | Well, this belt is a pain to properly put on too so I'm likely stuck with the sheath |
| 00:32.53 | Dewin | Real (though inexpensive) sword however |
| 00:33.46 | Dewin | And yeah, I think it's supposed to go somewhat diagonal |
| 00:33.48 | Dewin | but meh. |
| 00:33.52 | Wobin | wear it on your back? |
| 00:34.05 | Dewin | It's not a back sheathe |
| 00:34.16 | Wobin | well, that's an alternative solution |
| 00:34.33 | Dewin | And since I'm simply answering the door, nobody would see it anyways |
| 00:35.24 | Dewin | Maybe I'll take it off, but I figured people'd get a kick out of it being a real sword. |
| 00:36.25 | Wobin | pft |
| 00:36.25 | Dewin | yeah, I think I'm going to take it off |
| 00:36.30 | Wobin | answer the door with it unsheathed |
| 00:36.34 | Dewin | LOL' |
| 00:36.36 | Dewin | I thought about that. |
| 00:36.38 | Xuerian | Dewin: 'cept the cops. |
| 00:36.45 | Wobin | "You want to trick, eh?" |
| 00:36.57 | Dewin | Wobin: Well, the sign outside my door /does/ say tricks. |
| 00:37.24 | Dewin | Xuerian: Nothing illegal (to my knowledge) about owning a sword. |
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| 00:38.07 | Dewin | I don't know though, it could be useful |
| 00:38.13 | steezo | was frame:SetBackdropColor changed in 3.0? It isn't working at all for me anymore |
| 00:38.14 | Xuerian | Dewin: Course not. |
| 00:38.21 | Dewin | Maybe someone will try to rob the place under the guise of trick-or-treating to get me to open the door and I could go highlander on their ass. |
| 00:38.22 | Xuerian | Brandishing it could raise hackles, though |
| 00:38.25 | Corrodias | it depends on your state |
| 00:38.38 | Corrodias | in Wisconsin, there is no restriction on owning and wielding a sword on private property |
| 00:38.46 | Neuro_Medivh | nor in Texas |
| 00:38.47 | Dewin | (Disclaimer: I don't actually know how to *use* the sword |
| 00:39.11 | Corrodias | it qualifies as a "dangerous weapon" which means you cannot carry it concealed on public property or car, nor carry it into a public building |
| 00:39.16 | Neuro_Medivh | then again, in Texas, there's no restriction on a gun, rifle, shotgun, assault rifle, grenade, or tank. |
| 00:39.27 | Neuro_Medivh | as long as it's on your property |
| 00:39.38 | Dewin | Corrodias: It's a large sword in a sheath that makes it fairly obvious what it is. No 'concealment' whatsoever. |
| 00:39.46 | Wobin | can you imagine answering your door for trick or treaters with a tank? |
| 00:40.07 | Dewin | Yeah, because you can SO fit the tank inside your front door |
| 00:40.10 | Neuro_Medivh | it'd rock, especially if the muzzle of the gun fired candy instead of artilery shells |
| 00:40.17 | Corrodias | hahah |
| 00:40.28 | Neuro_Medivh | "Trick or" THUMP! |
| 00:40.36 | Dewin | yes, launch candy out of a cannon with little parachutes |
| 00:40.58 | Neuro_Medivh | parachutes? Why? Just fire directly at the little bastards |
| 00:41.15 | Wobin | candy grenade |
| 00:41.15 | Neuro_Medivh | "You want some candy? HERE YA GO! Don't worry, kids, it's subsonic" |
| 00:41.18 | steezo | does anyone know if frame:SetBackdropColor changed in 3.0? It isn't working at all for me anymore. It also doesn't say that it was changed in any of the changelogs in UI & Macros forum. |
| 00:41.27 | Neuro_Medivh | Wobin: They explode with flavor |
| 00:41.31 | Dewin | yeah, I'm going to take this off. |
| 00:41.47 | Wobin | Neuro_Medivh: Taste the rainbow IN YOUR FACE |
| 00:43.19 | Neuro_Medivh | actually, take a small pack of Skittles, put a cherry bomb inside, light the fuse and throw it in the candy bucket of the trick-r-treater! |
| 00:43.37 | Neuro_Medivh | Dewin, at this rate, you'll be naked by the end of the night |
| 00:43.43 | Neuro_Medivh | first the sword, now the belt... |
| 00:43.52 | Corrodias | now that's a good costume |
| 00:43.56 | Neuro_Medivh | "God, I hate these pants" |
| 00:44.03 | Dewin | no, I had to take the belt off to take the sword off of it |
| 00:44.15 | Dewin | the belt has other uses, which I have yet to explore :) |
| 00:44.23 | Wobin | "These pants are making me itch..." |
| 00:44.31 | Dewin | 10' strips of leather tend to have alternative uses |
| 00:44.36 | Neuro_Medivh | well, good... cause while the sword thing isn't an issue, lack of pants on Halloween just might get you in trouble |
| 00:44.43 | NightHawkTheSane | woo! take it off! |
| 00:44.45 | NightHawkTheSane | take it all off! |
| 00:44.51 | Wobin | "Trick or ARRARARARRRGH!!?" |
| 00:44.57 | Dewin | oh crap |
| 00:45.03 | Dewin | I'm not fully dressed yet and the doorbell jsut rang |
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| 00:45.18 | Neuro_Medivh | Answer the door in your Baby Elephant costume! |
| 00:45.19 | NightHawkTheSane | just answer the door |
| 00:45.27 | NightHawkTheSane | what's life without a little psychological trauma |
| 00:45.34 | Neuro_Medivh | boring, that's what! |
| 00:46.28 | Wobin | hehe |
| 00:46.33 | Wobin | "One second! Just putting my pants on!" |
| 00:47.08 | Neuro_Medivh | Dewin, maybe that'll be the time that two sexy college girls are trick-r-treating, dressed as an angel and devil |
| 00:47.11 | shadowfaux | pants off and on the internet = bad thing to let people know |
| 00:47.39 | Neuro_Medivh | that's their new slogan. "The Internet - Pants optional!" |
| 00:48.09 | Corrodias | one dressed as a draenei dressed as an angel and the other dressed as a bloof elf dressed as an devil |
| 00:48.41 | |pez| | I have a slogan! It goes well with my company name! |
| 00:48.41 | |pez| | WebMistress - Satisfying your online needs! ;P |
| 00:48.56 | Corrodias | i like where this is going |
| 00:49.34 | shadowfaux | haha i like it, you'll be recieveing millions of hits, but without the business |
| 00:50.17 | |pez| | I need to actually get the company going though. |
| 00:50.49 | shadowfaux | ah, a drawback |
| 00:51.06 | |pez| | I do web development btw, if someone wondered ;P |
| 00:51.41 | |pez| | Actually, I will do webdevelopment. Haven't started yet. XD |
| 00:53.37 | Dewin | whew. |
| 00:53.44 | Dewin | lol, it wasn't a trick-or-treater |
| 00:53.53 | Dewin | I now know the official worst job to have on Halloween: UPS delivery guy. |
| 00:53.58 | Corrodias | hmm. naked web development? |
| 00:54.29 | shadowfaux | was he in fancy dress? |
| 00:54.34 | Dewin | lol, no. |
| 00:54.47 | shadowfaux | damn, not getting into the spirit og things |
| 00:54.50 | shadowfaux | *of |
| 00:55.12 | Dewin | My wife works at a bank... also not a fun place to work on halloween. |
| 00:55.47 | shadowfaux | my workplace didn't let us dress up, everywhere around us did, we were lame |
| 00:56.08 | Dewin | blah |
| 00:56.12 | Dewin | I forgot how warm this garb is |
| 00:56.18 | Dewin | And to think I wanted to wear my cloak. |
| 00:56.29 | Dewin | (My wife requisitioned it for her own costume) |
| 00:57.06 | steezo | does anyone know if frame:SetBackdropColor changed in 3.0? It isn't working at all for me anymore. It also doesn't say that it was changed in any of the changelogs in UI & Macros forum. |
| 00:58.04 | Wobin | he totally should have been |
| 00:58.26 | Wobin | I bet he gets a lot of candy for his deliveries |
| 00:58.29 | Dewin | who here said they do web development? |
| 00:58.32 | Neuro_Medivh | Dewin, now you're talking about how hot your clothes are... just get naked now and skip the buildup |
| 00:58.49 | Neuro_Medivh | The Internet - We don't judge you |
| 00:58.59 | shadowfaux | |pez| |
| 00:59.36 | |pez| | shadowfaux |
| 00:59.42 | Dewin | |pez|: What kind of work do you do? |
| 01:00.09 | |pez| | I will at some point, do webdesign, and offer Magento installation and customization, and also WordPress stuff. |
| 01:00.14 | |pez| | And then work my way from there. :P |
| 01:00.46 | Dewin | Familiar with PHP? |
| 01:00.52 | |pez| | Yes. |
| 01:01.07 | |pez| | I lack the OOP part of PHP though, but I guess I'll learn at some point. |
| 01:01.27 | Dewin | Have any samples of your work, etc online? |
| 01:01.49 | |pez| | Not really, no. |
| 01:02.05 | |pez| | I'm partially working on that stuff, slowly (horribly so), while studying. |
| 01:02.15 | Dewin | aand... roughly whereabouts do you live? (I don't need specifics) |
| 01:02.23 | Corrodias | i do |
| 01:02.36 | Corrodias | i kid! ;P |
| 01:02.44 | Dewin | Serious conversation is serious. |
| 01:03.22 | |pez| | Dewin: Norway. |
| 01:03.24 | AnduinLothar | Neuro_Medivh: the internet doesn't judge? what internet are you on? |
| 01:03.28 | Dewin | lol, that'd be a hell of a commute. |
| 01:03.44 | |pez| | Dewin: was that a job offer? XD |
| 01:04.08 | Dewin | |pez|: Potentially. I don't have hiring authority but I can pretty much veto or recommend any candidate. |
| 01:04.38 | Dewin | I'm mostly antisocial though so I don't really know of any candidates at the moment, so I'm listening where I can :) |
| 01:04.46 | |pez| | hehe |
| 01:04.51 | |pez| | Where would this be? |
| 01:05.03 | |pez| | just out of curiosity. |
| 01:05.29 | Dewin | Mostly work-at-home but I think my boss would rather not try to deal with an international contract. Oregon, US |
| 01:05.53 | |pez| | Sounds warm and awesome. |
| 01:06.00 | Dewin | And by 'boss', I mean "I own my own company, but I have exactly one client so they are basically my boss." |
| 01:06.29 | |pez| | Except I've watched Cow and Chicken, which claims Oregan are full of headhunters! |
| 01:07.18 | Dewin | Nah. Not a headhunter. |
| 01:07.39 | Dewin | Just pretty much the sole developer on a way-behind project and looking for reinforcements :) |
| 01:08.21 | |pez| | Aah, I'm not one for stress-projects which should have been done around... now. |
| 01:09.08 | Dewin | well, it's the sort of thing that if there was more manpower it wouldn't be so far behind |
| 01:10.25 | |pez| | Ah. |
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| 01:11.14 | |pez| | Well, since I'm waay over on the other side of the pond, I'm sure your "boss" would atleast want some proof of skills, which I don't have. |
| 01:11.14 | |pez| | I should really do something about that. |
| 01:11.18 | |pez| | Get some plugins and themes out for WordPress, and see if I could make a couple of dollars while in school. |
| 01:11.37 | |pez| | And also learn the themeing system of Magento properly, and make more with that.. :p |
| 01:11.41 | Dewin | (There's three distinct parts, parts 2 and 3 can be done simultaneously by 2+ separate people, but I'm the only dev atm) |
| 01:12.29 | |pez| | Ofcourse, all will be sold under my boyfriends organization number, since I don't want to lose my scholarship and stuff if I happen to make more than anticipated. |
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| 01:15.10 | Shirik | hihihih |
| 01:15.30 | |pez| | Iihihihihi? |
| 01:15.42 | Shirik | trick or treat |
| 01:16.30 | Corrodias | trick me, big boy |
| 01:18.38 | |pez| | My internet makes me sad. |
| 01:25.00 | Sixen | ~hug bleeter |
| 01:25.00 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on bleeter and suddenly hugs bleeter tightly |
| 01:25.36 | Sixen | ~hug Neuro |
| 01:25.37 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Neuro |
| 01:26.01 | steezo | halp! http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12197380885 |
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| 01:33.32 | Shirik | ~hug |Jelly| |
| 01:33.33 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on |Jelly| and suddenly hugs |Jelly| tightly |
| 01:47.22 | Wobin | we're 3.0.2 now aren't we? |
| 01:48.21 | Lukian | yus |
| 01:50.36 | Neuro_Medivh | no, WE are at 3.2.3... cause we're in the super-secret ultrabeta |
| 01:51.14 | Wobin | pft |
| 01:51.19 | Wobin | What care I for your cliques? |
| 01:51.28 | Wobin | Nil, nada, zilch |
| 01:53.23 | nevcairiel | You know, its kidna funny reading class forums |
| 01:53.35 | Neuro_Medivh | funny? |
| 01:53.53 | nevcairiel | every forum has the same QQ and flame |
| 01:53.56 | nevcairiel | _every_ :P |
| 01:53.59 | Neuro_Medivh | is this a new canadian version of the work that means "painful and excruciating"? |
| 01:54.11 | nevcairiel | all claim that they wont be invited to raids, and that they fail in pvp on general principle |
| 01:54.21 | nevcairiel | i think its funny, really :) |
| 01:54.41 | Neuro_Medivh | actually, Pally forums have a different QQ. Theirs is "Why is it so wrong that we smash face now?" |
| 01:54.45 | nevcairiel | i can just laugh at those people |
| 01:55.31 | nevcairiel | hm nah, pallys started to join the general QQ noise after all the nerfs now |
| 01:55.34 | Neuro_Medivh | to be fair, the people who WILL get invited into raids never post. |
| 01:55.49 | nevcairiel | but they are in all classes, too |
| 01:55.55 | Neuro_Medivh | you never hear a resto shaman say "Wow, with my amazing heals, I'll never get invited to a raid!" |
| 01:56.11 | Neuro_Medivh | unless it's a retarded resto shammy |
| 01:56.14 | nevcairiel | resto shamans are not as amazing as they were before 3.0, though =P |
| 01:56.31 | Neuro_Medivh | oh, is that the new QQ? "We don't completely dominate healing anymore, QQ" |
| 01:56.47 | nevcairiel | from shamans? yeah, they are stupid like that |
| 01:57.04 | nevcairiel | they go and troll druids now because we own their asses in meters |
| 01:57.12 | Neuro_Medivh | I play Enhancement, every guild I ever talked to about joining said "Um, would you be willing to go resto? Oh, nm then, when we said we needed shaman, we meant resto" |
| 01:57.31 | nevcairiel | well in sunwell that was just a given |
| 01:57.35 | nevcairiel | damn encounter design |
| 01:57.54 | nevcairiel | shamans made it alot easier |
| 01:58.08 | Neuro_Medivh | spam heroism/bloodlust? |
| 01:58.39 | nevcairiel | not only that, chain heal was irreplacable, and the totem raid support was good too |
| 02:00.00 | nevcairiel | but every class has at least one "stop ignoring us" post |
| 02:00.00 | nevcairiel | i still think its funny :D |
| 02:00.18 | Neuro_Medivh | my only complaint with enh shaman now is that the devs have an annoying habit of trying to put every fix into Shamanistic Rage |
| 02:00.44 | Neuro_Medivh | I miss the Ghost Wolf talent... we hardly knew ya |
| 02:02.32 | Neuro_Medivh | hahah, more ret nerfs |
| 02:02.43 | Neuro_Medivh | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12065281479&sid=1 |
| 02:02.55 | nevcairiel | I miss the original Flourish, but you know, even druids admited that it was too OP :P |
| 02:03.47 | nevcairiel | Ret Pallys are silly. They melt faces in PvP like noone else, then they get nerfed into some acceptable shape, and they all talk like the world is ending and everyone quits |
| 02:04.06 | End | That's because most ret paladins are what you call "fotm" |
| 02:04.27 | End | a whole bunch of people with crappy paladin alts suddenly noticed they weren't crappy |
| 02:04.34 | nevcairiel | now you need some skill again to be good, of course crying is easier then learning :) |
| 02:04.42 | End | crappy alts should stay crappy dammit! :P |
| 02:04.50 | Duman | too much QQ |
| 02:04.59 | Duman | anyone who thought pallys were balanced (at 70) was high |
| 02:05.04 | Duman | (and I'm a paladin) |
| 02:05.09 | nevcairiel | oh noes, paladins need to watch their mana pool now, no unlimited mana for ever anymore |
| 02:05.10 | End | (I don't include good alts there. good alts can be good. just not crappy ones) |
| 02:05.13 | nevcairiel | how unfair is that! |
| 02:05.25 | Sixen | hai duman |
| 02:05.30 | Duman | O HAI |
| 02:05.33 | Sixen | hour u |
| 02:05.37 | Duman | not bad |
| 02:05.41 | Sixen | ;) |
| 02:05.43 | Duman | haven't seen Maaven in like 2 days tho |
| 02:05.46 | Duman | wonder what's up |
| 02:09.06 | cbreak | they can do what mages are supposed to do nevcairiel, just stop dpsing and start wanding to use spirit regen from all the spirit on the gear... |
| 02:11.14 | End | mages have more than that... |
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| 02:49.24 | Dewin | 3 bags of candy. |
| 02:49.28 | Dewin | 0 trick-or-treaters. |
| 02:49.31 | Dewin | >.> |
| 02:49.40 | ScytheBlade1 | SOUNDS LIKE YOU WIN THREE BAGS OF CANDY! |
| 02:49.47 | |Jelly| | Same. |
| 02:49.59 | |Jelly| | Same numbers of bags too, oddly. |
| 02:49.59 | Dewin | Last time I had this happen for halloween |
| 02:50.13 | Dewin | I bought 0 bags of candynext year and had 10 (ignored) trick-or-treaters. |
| 02:50.26 | Dewin | At least we picked candy we liked :) |
| 02:50.37 | |Jelly| | That's 90% of the point of Halloween imo |
| 02:50.46 | Dewin | but... that's a LOT of candy |
| 02:51.05 | Corrodias | halloween is for murder |
| 02:51.23 | Corrodias | cut the body into tiny chunks, put them in wrappers, and hand them out to children |
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| 02:57.21 | Tem | well |
| 02:57.26 | Tem | 3h to 60 |
| 02:57.28 | Tem | I like that |
| 02:57.50 | Tem | that puts me going to bed by ~4:30 on release day |
| 03:00.53 | batrick | Anyone know how to set spellids for a secure button rather than using localized spell names? |
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| 03:02.43 | Tem | batrick, can't be done |
| 03:02.49 | Tem | have to use localized spell name |
| 03:02.55 | batrick | that's too bad : / |
| 03:03.01 | Tem | why does it matter? |
| 03:03.13 | Tem | button:SetAttribute("spell",GetSpellInfo(spellID)) |
| 03:03.22 | batrick | it's just annoying collecting portal/teleport names for all the locales for my addon |
| 03:03.30 | batrick | wow that easy? |
| 03:03.46 | Tem | the first return is the spell name, iirc |
| 03:03.56 | batrick | sweet thank you Tem :) |
| 03:03.58 | Tem | np |
| 03:04.05 | Tem | FUCK |
| 03:04.10 | Tem | the name I had picked out for my DK is taken |
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| 03:05.30 | vithos_ | Deathtem |
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| 03:08.49 | Dewin | Hmm. |
| 03:09.02 | Dewin | I haven't even though up a DK name |
| 03:09.40 | Tem | vithos_, amusingly, that name isn't taken on my server |
| 03:09.48 | Tem | I do have "Knigget" saved |
| 03:09.55 | Tem | but I don't think I'll use it |
| 03:11.36 | Dewin | hmm |
| 03:11.55 | Dewin | 2 of my realms are available for free character moves |
| 03:12.02 | Dewin | a shame I can't move from one to the other |
| 03:16.50 | smcn | Tem: i'd bet someone would report that :P |
| 03:17.00 | Tem | which? |
| 03:17.16 | smcn | knigget |
| 03:17.20 | Tem | why? |
| 03:17.52 | Tem | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V7zbWNznbs |
| 03:19.01 | Cairenn | rarr! |
| 03:20.19 | Tem | smcn, watch that at least to 2:20 |
| 03:20.53 | smcn | assuming it's a link to holy grail, i know what knigget really is, i mean SOMEONE would report it. not me :P |
| 03:21.16 | Tem | I have more faith in humanity than you |
| 03:21.21 | smcn | remember the debacle about niggardly a few years ago? |
| 03:21.58 | Corrodias | chortle |
| 03:22.00 | Corrodias | i love that word |
| 03:22.01 | Tem | no |
| 03:22.23 | smcn | yes, it's a perfectly cromulent word |
| 03:22.53 | Tem | cromulent |
| 03:22.54 | Tem | awesome |
| 03:23.05 | Corrodias | holy shit, that's a great word too :o |
| 03:23.14 | Corrodias | i don't even know it |
| 03:23.48 | Tem | you should embiggen your mind, Corrodias |
| 03:23.56 | Corrodias | XD |
| 03:28.03 | Tem | So, I'm leaning towards Motif for my DK |
| 03:28.23 | Tem | There's also Tremolo |
| 03:30.45 | Corrodias | what about... Poop |
| 03:31.37 | Tem | I'm pretty set on a music term |
| 03:32.31 | Tem | Though, I am a big fan of single-syllable names |
| 03:33.20 | Corrodias | there's always Forte |
| 03:33.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Decrescendo. |
| 03:33.39 | Corrodias | Acapella? |
| 03:34.11 | NightHawkTheSane | hell i might use that one myself. |
| 03:35.01 | Tem | taken |
| 03:35.07 | NightHawkTheSane | that sucks |
| 03:35.46 | Tem | Names I liked but are already taken: (mostly by characters of level <30 who havne't logged in since December of last year) |
| 03:35.55 | Tem | Legato (the name of my DK on beta) |
| 03:36.00 | Tem | Staccato |
| 03:36.24 | Tem | (I could spell that one wrong and get the name, but the misspelling would haunt me) |
| 03:36.30 | Corrodias | hahah |
| 03:36.42 | Tem | Requiem |
| 03:36.47 | Corrodias | Instrumental |
| 03:36.53 | Corrodias | Dirge. i've always liked that word. |
| 03:36.56 | batrick | i called my hunter Fugue and my pet Tocatta |
| 03:37.00 | batrick | err, toccata |
| 03:37.14 | Tem | yeah, Dirge is very taken |
| 03:37.19 | Corrodias | i would assume so :( |
| 03:37.23 | Tem | batrick, nice :) |
| 03:37.31 | Tem | my original idea was Grave |
| 03:37.37 | Tem | (as in the tempo marking) |
| 03:37.49 | Tem | but then I realized that it was spelled the same way |
| 03:37.53 | Corrodias | biondo za gureivu |
| 03:37.59 | Tem | so I figured no one would get it |
| 03:38.09 | NightHawkTheSane | batrick: i like that :) |
| 03:38.35 | Tem | hmm |
| 03:38.37 | Tem | Lamento |
| 03:39.23 | Tem | I should go with Mixolydian just so no one can pronounce my name |
| 03:39.48 | Tem | hmm |
| 03:39.49 | Tem | mordent |
| 03:40.52 | Tem | taken |
| 03:40.54 | Tem | *cry* |
| 03:41.17 | Corrodias | Gothicus |
| 03:41.31 | Corrodias | Dreadlicker |
| 03:42.00 | NightHawkTheSane | you know, if this were a bit better done, it'd be damn neat: http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info11501-StartrekLCARSui.html |
| 03:42.56 | Tem | that's embarassing, NHTS |
| 03:43.10 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 03:43.46 | Tem | requiescat |
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| 03:45.11 | Corrodias | name your character |
| 03:45.13 | Corrodias | Cooooooookie |
| 03:45.46 | Corrodias | i rather like Gothicus |
| 03:46.06 | Corrodias | in a campy sort of way |
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| 03:46.28 | Corrodias | how about... Adagio |
| 03:47.13 | Tem | taken |
| 03:47.13 | Corrodias | my god, Dexter's Lab was hilarious |
| 03:47.27 | Tem | (I also liked that one and tried it before D:) |
| 03:48.56 | Corrodias | oh here we go, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_musical_terms_used_in_English |
| 03:49.05 | Corrodias | what's the race of this character? |
| 03:49.22 | Tem | Human |
| 03:49.28 | Tem | (sadly) |
| 03:49.45 | Corrodias | gender? |
| 03:49.49 | Tem | male |
| 03:49.56 | Tem | I could not play another human female |
| 03:50.12 | Tem | after 3 years on my mage, I just couldn't do it again |
| 03:50.25 | Corrodias | then may i recommend "Chiuso", "Calls for a horn to be muted by hand" |
| 03:50.33 | Corrodias | get it, cuz it's horn |
| 03:50.35 | Corrodias | and by hand |
| 03:50.41 | Corrodias | wink wink nudge nudge |
| 03:50.54 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:51.12 | Tem | Tenuto |
| 03:51.18 | Tem | almost the same meaning as Legato |
| 03:51.27 | Tem | and not taken! |
| 03:51.35 | Corrodias | Molto is a magnifier... but Tenuto sounds good too |
| 03:52.25 | Tem | Maestoso is a favorite term of mine |
| 03:52.32 | Tem | but I don't think I could pull it off as a name |
| 03:52.34 | Corrodias | Mantissa |
| 03:52.41 | Tem | Mandible? |
| 03:52.45 | Corrodias | Ritardando |
| 03:52.57 | Tem | heh |
| 03:53.19 | tardmrr | names that are similar to retard are often welcome |
| 03:53.43 | Corrodias | well, on the WoW forums it'd fit right in |
| 03:54.08 | Corrodias | i like Capriccio |
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| 03:58.40 | tardmrr | doloroso |
| 03:59.04 | Corrodias | Aretha |
| 03:59.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Soo |
| 03:59.13 | ScytheBlade1 | We're tanking Black Morass with hunter pets |
| 03:59.54 | Corrodias | what level? |
| 04:00.00 | ScytheBlade1 | 70 |
| 04:00.14 | Corrodias | i would not want to do that, i'll say it that way |
| 04:00.19 | Tem | ScytheBlade1, I want to fucking stab that hunter who was like "can my pet tank?" at blizzcon |
| 04:00.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Tem: I agree |
| 04:00.33 | Tem | I was within range, too |
| 04:00.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Tem: but this hunter was our healer, and REALLY WANTS THE HOURGLASS! |
| 04:00.40 | Tem | lucky for me I was eating |
| 04:00.45 | ScytheBlade1 | ... a level 68 blue trinket |
| 04:00.56 | Corrodias | they can easily handle the adds, but the big guys and the bosses would be too much for my kitty |
| 04:01.01 | Tem | how is your hunter also the healer? |
| 04:01.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Our tank swapped for his healer |
| 04:01.12 | Corrodias | guild healer? |
| 04:01.18 | Tem | Corrodias, you don't "tank" with a kitty |
| 04:01.27 | Tem | you would do it with a bear or boar or turtle |
| 04:01.30 | Corrodias | meh, you can |
| 04:01.39 | Corrodias | but it's not advised |
| 04:01.42 | ScytheBlade1 | atm it's a scorpid |
| 04:01.49 | Tem | I think I'm going to go with "Doloros" |
| 04:02.04 | Tem | people who want to can get the Doloroso reference |
| 04:02.14 | Tem | meanwhile, it sounds like a name |
| 04:02.18 | Corrodias | it's like, what... a 15% armor difference. but you'd also want the armor ... feats, whatever they're called |
| 04:03.07 | Tem | no idea |
| 04:03.13 | Tem | I have a general hatred for hunters |
| 04:03.19 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 04:03.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Well |
| 04:03.27 | ScytheBlade1 | I have about two exceptions |
| 04:03.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Two outright amazing hunters |
| 04:03.40 | Tem | I have two exceptions as well |
| 04:03.43 | Tem | Cairenn and Iriel |
| 04:03.52 | Cairenn | awww, thanks Tem :) |
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| 04:05.20 | ScytheBlade1 | ... so we just killed the second boss in record time |
| 04:05.27 | ScytheBlade1 | With hunters and mages tanking |
| 04:05.28 | ScytheBlade1 | ....... |
| 04:08.01 | Tem | lawl |
| 04:09.38 | selckin | i tanked and healed bm heroic on my paladin at the same time pre 3.0 |
| 04:09.41 | selckin | that place is a joke |
| 04:11.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Cleared |
| 04:20.40 | Corrodias | this is one freaky music video |
| 04:20.50 | Corrodias | Herbie Hancock - Rockit |
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| 04:34.45 | batrick | so uh |
| 04:35.04 | batrick | logging on a latin american server doesn't change the locale? |
| 04:35.26 | Neuro_Medivh | no |
| 04:38.46 | ScytheBlade1 | servers are locale independant |
| 04:40.48 | batrick | ya well it wouldn't let me change it in config, guess i need different client o wel |
| 04:40.51 | batrick | well* |
| 04:41.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
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| 05:17.01 | Neuro_Medivh | has anyone played Fallout 3? |
| 05:18.10 | Corrodias | someone has. |
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| 05:57.25 | Wobin | ckk has it I believe |
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| 06:45.19 | Thunder_Child | Neuro_Medivh, i will as soon as it comes out for PC |
| 06:53.54 | Tekkub | interesting |
| 06:54.00 | Tekkub | pets don't take fall damage now |
| 06:54.12 | Tekkub | I have to throw him off outland if I want to test crap |
| 06:54.19 | Corrodias | they ever did? |
| 06:54.23 | Tekkub | they did |
| 06:54.41 | Corrodias | have they always? |
| 06:54.42 | Tekkub | I jumped my bear off aldor rise many a time when I was working on FuzzyLogic |
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| 07:05.35 | ReAn | Tekkub, i should report you to PETA! |
| 07:05.39 | ReAn | :) |
| 07:07.48 | Thunder_Child | doesnt wow have a diff name for them? |
| 07:07.53 | ReAn | DETA |
| 07:08.02 | ReAn | Druids for the Ethical Treatment of Animals |
| 07:08.27 | Thunder_Child | ~wtf DETA |
| 07:08.39 | Thunder_Child | DETA is Druids for the Ethical Treatment of Animals |
| 07:08.45 | Thunder_Child | purl, DETA is Druids for the Ethical Treatment of Animals |
| 07:08.46 | purl | okay, Thunder_Child |
| 07:08.48 | Thunder_Child | ~wtf DETA |
| 07:08.53 | Thunder_Child | ... |
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| 07:10.51 | amro|afk | shouldn't it be PETD, People for the Ethical Treatment of Druids? |
| 07:23.08 | Tekkub | :P |
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| 07:42.51 | Wobin | whut, fallout3 doesn't have a pc port? |
| 07:42.58 | Wobin | what were they -thinking-?! |
| 07:42.59 | Tekkub | DOOM |
| 07:43.15 | Tekkub | Wobby, was it you that sent me the TimTam? |
| 07:43.28 | Wobin | ages ago, yeah =) |
| 07:43.37 | Tekkub | guess what we found at Target today |
| 07:43.43 | Wobin | when you had issues with the ups dude |
| 07:43.44 | Tekkub | seems they're making it here now |
| 07:43.50 | Wobin | oh no! |
| 07:43.57 | Wobin | tell me -not- with corn syrup? |
| 07:44.01 | Tekkub | USPS, UPS (sadly) wasn't nearly as retarded |
| 07:44.09 | Tekkub | I bet they are, didn't check |
| 07:44.15 | Tekkub | they had carmel ones too |
| 07:44.18 | Wobin | That's a terrible blasphemy |
| 07:44.34 | Tekkub | everything over here has corn syrup |
| 07:44.37 | Wobin | yeah |
| 07:44.40 | Tekkub | we don't use sugar anymore |
| 07:44.42 | Wobin | it's the tool of the devil, I tell you |
| 07:44.47 | Tekkub | it's like, evil or something |
| 07:47.37 | MentalPower | its half as cheap as sugar |
| 07:48.07 | Tekkub | that doesn't make it better |
| 07:48.29 | Wobin | I believe there's some law in the states, that -require- corn syrup to be used in all products |
| 07:49.06 | Wobin | and it was put in place to save the corn farmers |
| 07:49.06 | Tekkub | there doesn't need to be a law, if it's the ceapest thing people will use it |
| 07:49.26 | Tekkub | if there is a law, I bet it's a sugar tax :) |
| 07:49.35 | Wobin | yeah, something like that =) |
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| 07:52.36 | MentalPower | its a combination of the sugar tax and corn incentives |
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| 07:53.41 | MentalPower | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-fructose_corn_syrup |
| 07:54.24 | Tekkub | it's a cornspiracy! |
| 07:54.27 | Tekkub | okey I'm done |
| 07:54.49 | Thunder_Child | you all fail |
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| 08:00.35 | Wobin | cause coke and stuff tastes so much better out of the US |
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| 08:21.37 | Xuerian | Anyone interested in a bar motion smoothing plugin for oUF? >_> |
| 08:24.48 | Tekkub | "smoothing"? |
| 08:26.48 | amro|afk | I think it means you can get smoothies from the bar |
| 08:29.28 | Xuerian | Tekkub: Smooth animation.... "Sliding"? |
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| 08:30.23 | kromar | hi |
| 08:32.15 | kromar | can someone tell me what has changed with fauxscrollframes in 3.0? |
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| 09:00.18 | kromar | someone here? |
| 09:03.51 | Xuerian | No. |
| 09:04.14 | kromar | damn |
| 09:05.39 | kromar | do you know what has changed in 3.0 with fauxscrollframes? |
| 09:08.21 | Tekkub | http://www.explosm.net/comics/1448/ |
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| 09:25.33 | Mikk | ~fauxscrollframe |
| 09:25.33 | purl | fauxscrollframe is probably one of the first Lua/XML systems written by Blizzard for the WoW user interface. Its learning curve resembles an inverted L, and Zootfizzle hates it. Along with cogs, it is in the top five on his "dead to me" list. |
| 09:26.03 | Mikk | Generally speaking, don't use fauxscrollframes. Just use a slider. |
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| 09:26.42 | Tekkub | I don't like the FSF templates, but hand-made FSF's ain't bad at all |
| 09:27.10 | kromar | it is some old code which worked great before 3.0 but no the text doesent show anymore:/ |
| 09:28.04 | Mikk | I dont' see the point of them at all. The Slider gives you everything you need. |
| 09:29.08 | kromar | that doesent change the fact that i cant see the text in my fsf... |
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| 09:35.50 | amro|afk | kromar: http://wowcompares.com/ |
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| 09:50.26 | Tekkub | Mikk, I don't like creating 100 frames when only 8 are shown at any given time, they're all the same, and I can make a small function that updates them? :P |
| 09:51.08 | Tekkub | when I would need a similar function to maintain the "real" SF's anchoring |
| 09:51.52 | Mikk | Tekkub: uhhh that's why I said "Slider" |
| 09:51.54 | Mikk | Not scrollframe |
| 09:52.08 | Mikk | You just make your 8 frames, and update their contents when someone touches the slider |
| 09:52.10 | Tekkub | well bah on you! |
| 09:52.26 | Mikk | All the wrapping with the faux shit is just ... totally unnecessary |
| 09:52.35 | Tekkub | that works exactly the same as FSF, minus blizzy's icky template |
| 09:52.40 | Mikk | Exactly |
| 09:52.43 | Mikk | Minus the icky shit |
| 09:52.53 | Tekkub | okey, well then yea |
| 09:53.01 | Mikk | And suddenly things make sense and the learning curve looks like "/" and not an inverted L |
| 09:53.08 | Tekkub | I thought all this FSF hate that goes around was hate for the whole design |
| 09:53.17 | Tekkub | not just hate for Blizzy's implementation |
| 09:53.40 | Tekkub | inverted 'L' my ass |
| 09:54.10 | Mikk | Yeah It's more like a _M imo |
| 09:54.14 | Mikk | or maybe even ____M |
| 09:54.46 | Mikk | Nothing at all........... until HEY I understand it! but then you realize that you don't, quite.... and THEN you understand it. And then you toss it. |
| 09:55.18 | Tekkub | Blizzy's FSF curve is: ... |
| 09:55.20 | Tekkub | damnit |
| 09:55.26 | Tekkub | CHARMAP GIVE ME WHAT I WANT |
| 09:55.50 | Tekkub | Ã this will have to do for the moment |
| 09:56.23 | Tekkub | ζ is kinda close |
| 09:57.52 | Tekkub | well fuck it I can't find it. We'll just say FSF's learning curve is something like: ⪠|
| 09:58.36 | Tekkub | and it's like 4, I go make pass out now |
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| 10:09.15 | bleeter | I just heard some story on BBC World Service about some uni or museum in the UK setting up a video game archive 'so the industry doesn't have it's legacy go the same way as film and tv's did'... quite interesting story, no idea where on their site the details might be tho |
| 10:09.51 | bleeter | seemed to be a lot of support for Dave Braben's titles hehe |
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| 10:24.23 | bleeter | http://www.savethevideogame.org/ |
| 10:24.42 | Aiiane | http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/10/30/0437240 |
| 10:25.01 | Aiiane | that's the archive in question, bleeter |
| 10:26.30 | bleeter | Aiiane: yup, I found the URL on the BBC world service page direct, didn't need no /. :P |
| 10:26.37 | bleeter | 'cept |
| 10:26.43 | Aiiane | meh, that was where I had read it |
| 10:26.47 | bleeter | I woulda missed the bit about the austin place |
| 10:28.06 | Industrial | "We're going to preserve videogames for the nation." |
| 10:28.10 | Industrial | damnit, quit thinking american |
| 10:28.14 | Industrial | the internet isnt yours |
| 10:28.16 | Industrial | >:( |
| 10:30.17 | bleeter | I'd nominate any Braben title, Crammond's Revs, and of course the open source port of Maelstrom >< |
| 10:32.05 | bleeter | I have a sudden burning desire to play Zarch |
| 10:33.03 | bleeter | oO someone ported Zarch to linux? woots! |
| 10:33.13 | bleeter | http://thom.best.vwh.net/software.html |
| 10:36.18 | bleeter | hmm wonder if The Outsider will be any good.. hope so |
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| 10:55.28 | Nechckn_AFK | Quiet, you dirty wooley! |
| 10:55.33 | Nechckn_AFK | ;-) |
| 11:09.04 | zenzelezz | "Microsofts solution is NOT multiplatform. Anything that runs jabber protocol has a multiplatform client." --> "What do you mean? It runs on both kinds of computer, XP and Vista." |
| 11:09.16 | zenzelezz | every now and then Slashdot comments can prove fun to read |
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| 12:51.54 | p3lim | Lyn, you got Burnout or something? :p |
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| 13:34.52 | coffeedude | (warning: potential noob question): I'm having some problems debugging an addon (someone else's). It seems to come down to a problem with the UNITDIESOTHER constant. This is still listed on http://www.wowwiki.com/WoW_constants but I get "bad argument #1 to 'gsub' (string expected, got nil)". Any pointers? |
| 13:35.38 | nevcairiel | it sounds like an old constant from the old combatlog |
| 13:35.40 | nevcairiel | before 2.4 |
| 13:35.46 | nevcairiel | wowwiki is usually outdated |
| 13:39.07 | coffeedude | The addon worked fine up to the 3.0.2 patch. |
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| 13:39.36 | alestane | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:39.42 | coffeedude | nevcairiel: yeah. I think the constant has been renamed or is outdated. but do you know another list of current constants? |
| 13:39.49 | foxlit | alestane: no need, it's nil :) |
| 13:39.50 | coffeedude | Thanks. |
| 13:39.51 | alestane | wowcompares.com |
| 13:40.01 | foxlit | considering bad argument #1 is nil :) |
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| 13:41.02 | coffeedude | yeah. And from the wowdiff it looks like it was removed from 3.0.2 but fixing that one error, the mod just trips up on the next one. So..... Am I going to have to go through the constants one byu one ? |
| 13:41.03 | foxlit | coffeedude: More specifically, FrameXML\GlobalStrings.lua |
| 13:41.22 | coffeedude | foxlit: ok. Thanks. Let me look. |
| 13:42.54 | foxlit | "Consecutive silent characters are not allowed." |
| 13:42.57 | foxlit | ^^ smart |
| 13:43.24 | foxlit | Then again, ""Silent characters are now allowed at the beginning or end of a name." << now should be not. |
| 13:45.41 | foxlit | /disableaddons actually exists |
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| 13:46.27 | Xinhuan | what does /disableaddons do |
| 13:46.32 | coffeedude | foxlit: ?? is that intended for me? If so, u lost me . Or another conversation? |
| 13:46.36 | Xinhuan | disable all or one addon? lol |
| 13:46.52 | foxlit | No, coffeedude, I'm just scrolling through those strings |
| 13:47.03 | coffeedude | foxlit: k. |
| 13:47.52 | foxlit | Xinhuan: DisableAllAddOns();ReloadUI(); |
| 13:48.27 | Xinhuan | no ty :) |
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| 13:50.33 | Xinhuan | does anyone know if fontstrings in wow have a string length limit? |
| 13:51.41 | cladhaire | so if I'm a level 70, with two level 31s |
| 13:51.50 | cladhaire | is it better to kill level 31 mobs, or higher? |
| 13:52.08 | Lukian | higher |
| 13:52.16 | cladhaire | hrm okay |
| 13:52.27 | cladhaire | not really sure how the penalty for having a level 70 works |
| 13:52.32 | Lukian | highest instance they can zone into preferably |
| 13:52.44 | cladhaire | hrm okay |
| 13:52.47 | cladhaire | i think thats SM right now |
| 13:52.49 | cladhaire | maybe ZF |
| 13:52.59 | cladhaire | but i'm just pushing them to 40 at the moment |
| 13:53.15 | cladhaire | I got sick of Gnomeregan, but it was a level per run |
| 13:53.28 | Lukian | hehe |
| 13:54.07 | cladhaire | so I'll take them into cath |
| 13:54.08 | cladhaire | fun |
| 13:54.18 | cladhaire | should do library first, they need doan-gear :P |
| 13:54.36 | cladhaire | 3750 experience per candy bucket |
| 13:54.42 | cladhaire | now that is win! |
| 13:54.56 | foxlit | Hm, I wonder how gmatch actually works |
| 13:55.13 | Industrial | cladhaire: go to uldaman |
| 13:55.18 | cladhaire | Industrial: hrm, yathink? |
| 13:55.25 | Industrial | then at level 35 dont go to zul farrak, but sunken temple. |
| 13:55.28 | cladhaire | they need stuff from sm |
| 13:55.42 | cladhaire | i'm mnot sure i can solo ST |
| 13:55.46 | Industrial | meh, if they are 40 from having ran hrough ST they dont anymore :P |
| 13:55.48 | cladhaire | i'm full pvp gear, lol |
| 13:55.49 | Industrial | ah k |
| 13:56.13 | Industrial | I was boostng myself with a t6 prot war with insane-o ao dmg :P |
| 13:56.17 | Industrial | aoe* |
| 13:56.38 | cladhaire | hehe see that makes sense |
| 13:56.45 | cladhaire | well the boosting is extra special cause of refer-a-friend :P |
| 13:57.15 | cladhaire | I'm in SM if you wanna come :P |
| 13:57.21 | Industrial | hm k so you arent playing with 3 chars at the same time? :P get someone else to run the 2 mages at the same time :D:D:D |
| 13:57.24 | Industrial | im working :( |
| 13:57.36 | Industrial | :)* |
| 13:57.54 | cladhaire | Industrial: yes I have 3 chars |
| 13:58.08 | cladhaire | draoi running it |
| 14:02.22 | haste | cladhaire, Industrial: could you guys look at the :SetAttribute in cobmat issue in oUF? |
| 14:02.38 | haste | that or I have to read through the entire securehandlers code D: |
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| 14:02.46 | cladhaire | haste: hrm? |
| 14:02.50 | cladhaire | what issue |
| 14:02.55 | alestane | haste: I know exactly what the problem is. |
| 14:03.13 | haste | they made tehir OnAttribute soft error if you executed :SetAttribute in combat |
| 14:03.39 | nevcairiel | its a bug in blizz code |
| 14:03.47 | nevcairiel | there is a minimal test case to reproduce it |
| 14:03.53 | haste | oh |
| 14:03.58 | alestane | It shouldn't fly on ANY :SetAttribute error...it errors if a new frame is created in combat. |
| 14:03.59 | haste | then I can flag it as can't fix \:D/ |
| 14:04.35 | haste | I'll probably dry-code the template based tags today cladhaire |
| 14:04.39 | haste | and add eventless units |
| 14:04.39 | alestane | haste: There's a fix, but we may not get it for a while. |
| 14:04.41 | kagaro | cladhaire: have you played around with the radial secure button stuff yet? |
| 14:05.01 | haste | alestane: well, I don't play regardless, so it doesn't matter much atm :P |
| 14:05.15 | alestane | haste: If you force the header to create everyone's frames at load time, I *think* that'll avoid it. |
| 14:05.21 | nevcairiel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11829374079&postId=118282996524&sid=1#0 |
| 14:05.33 | nevcairiel | blue never found the post, apparently |
| 14:06.05 | haste | alestane: how would you go aobut doing that? |
| 14:07.01 | nevcairiel | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/100323 <-- the minimal case that already errors |
| 14:07.14 | alestane | I'm not really the expert on the Group Header. The relevant code is in SecureTemplates.lua, not SecureHandlers.lua. |
| 14:07.18 | nevcairiel | someone should abuse some direct channel to slouken to get it fixed |
| 14:08.12 | alestane | It requires a patch to fix, so it would take someone over slouken's head to get it okayed. |
| 14:08.31 | nevcairiel | well he could at least let us know that he is on top of things for the next patch |
| 14:08.33 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 14:08.44 | kagaro | inst a patch scheduled for tuesday? |
| 14:09.07 | Lukian | don't believe so |
| 14:09.42 | nevcairiel | i didnt mean "fix now", but more like "fix in the next patch where he can sneak UI changes in" |
| 14:09.51 | nevcairiel | its still some time to addon release, and that requires patches anyway |
| 14:12.34 | alestane | I notified Iriel of the issue and the fix within a day of seeing that post. But it's an issue that 1) only affects add-ons; 2) throws an error, but doesn't actually break them completely AFAIK; and 3) has workarounds; which means it's not exactly stop-the-presses material. |
| 14:12.49 | Gnarfoz | kagaro: probability is high, yes. 3.0.3 is still out there and the time left to implement is is getting shorter and shorter ^^ |
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| 14:13.21 | cbreak | anyone else got problems with /chatlist in WoW? |
| 14:13.29 | kagaro | if he is sneaking if, he neds to fix spell_aura_refresh |
| 14:13.36 | cbreak | my client crashes when I try to list the people in a channel |
| 14:14.08 | nevcairiel | yeah SPELL_AURA_REFRESH and SPELL_AURA_APPLIED_DOSE need some love :/ |
| 14:14.16 | cbreak | with a EXC_BAD_ACCESS KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE |
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| 14:15.27 | alestane | With addons disabled? |
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| 14:15.44 | nevcairiel | it didnt crash me, just now |
| 14:15.53 | cbreak | no, with some addons enabled |
| 14:16.09 | cbreak | but addons should not be able to crash the client either |
| 14:16.25 | cbreak | maybe it's a problem in the mac client |
| 14:16.28 | alestane | That error makes it sound like a bad font file. |
| 14:16.39 | cbreak | font? |
| 14:17.14 | alestane | Do you use any theme addons like SharedMedia? |
| 14:17.22 | cbreak | maybe indirectly |
| 14:17.25 | alestane | Chat addons like Prat? |
| 14:17.28 | cbreak | no |
| 14:17.50 | cbreak | why do you think it's font related? |
| 14:18.02 | alestane | KERN_PROTECTION |
| 14:18.12 | alestane | Kerning is a font design and text layout term. |
| 14:18.31 | cbreak | haha, no |
| 14:18.38 | cbreak | that's memory access related |
| 14:18.44 | nevcairiel | google thinks thats faulty memory |
| 14:18.47 | alestane | Oh, for KERNEL. |
| 14:19.12 | Industrial | haste that or I have to read through the entire securehandlers code D: <-- no lol im worse then you with that :P |
| 14:19.16 | cbreak | yeah, but it's a programming error |
| 14:19.32 | cbreak | when a program accesses memory it should not access you get it |
| 14:19.38 | cbreak | dangling pointers for example |
| 14:19.41 | haste | Industrial: thing is that you would only have to be a test subject, cladhaire could do the actual testing :P |
| 14:19.44 | nevcairiel | it could still be faulty memory, hardware issue |
| 14:19.51 | cbreak | I doubt that |
| 14:20.07 | cbreak | my computer would tell me if I had faulty memory |
| 14:20.15 | Industrial | haste: ouch :( but i cant right now :p |
| 14:20.17 | Adys | after which SSC boss is the guy from the attunement qline? |
| 14:20.18 | nevcairiel | you're on a mac? |
| 14:20.25 | cbreak | yes |
| 14:20.27 | haste | Industrial: not needed |
| 14:20.49 | cbreak | EEC on both modules is ok |
| 14:20.52 | zenzelezz | Adys: Karathress |
| 14:20.57 | Adys | ah |
| 14:21.01 | Adys | cheers |
| 14:22.05 | nevcairiel | alot of people on google claim that some <random application> just started crashing with that error out of the blue |
| 14:22.38 | nevcairiel | oh well i have no idea about macs anyway |
| 14:22.45 | alestane | cbreak: Does this occur when you /chatwho ANY channel, or only certain ones? |
| 14:22.57 | cbreak | all I tried |
| 14:23.09 | cbreak | (I didn't try general and trade, but some custom ones) |
| 14:23.20 | alestane | With fairly small membership? |
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| 14:23.36 | cbreak | yes, less than 10 |
| 14:24.06 | cbreak | my list of suspects are WoW, WoW with interaction with an addon, or something else |
| 14:24.12 | alestane | So it's not a memory overflow problem. |
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| 14:24.56 | nevcairiel | some guy claimed a corrupted reference file can cause that, but no idea (not even what a reference file is, curse macs :P) |
| 14:25.02 | cbreak | EXC_BAD_ACCESS/KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE â This is caused by the thread trying to write to read-only memory. This is always caused by a data access. |
| 14:25.10 | cbreak | from an apple TechNote |
| 14:25.24 | cbreak | preference file? Hmm... |
| 14:25.48 | cbreak | (=settings file) |
| 14:26.08 | nevcairiel | it was probably specific to that application |
| 14:26.18 | nevcairiel | unless MacOS keeps such a file somewhere for every app |
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| 14:26.39 | cbreak | oh, yes. Windows uses the registry for application settings |
| 14:26.45 | cbreak | mac os uses plain files |
| 14:26.55 | cbreak | but how they are used is app specific |
| 14:26.58 | zenzelezz | "application settings" in what way? |
| 14:27.14 | zenzelezz | information that Windows keeps about programs, or whatever a program chooses to store? |
| 14:27.25 | cbreak | what the programs want to store |
| 14:27.37 | cbreak | some apps do special, non standard things, like WoW |
| 14:27.42 | cbreak | which uses files in WTF |
| 14:27.43 | zenzelezz | then it's not accurate to say Windows uses the registry; the programs can do whatever they like |
| 14:27.59 | cbreak | yes, not unlike here |
| 14:28.13 | nevcairiel | well WoW still stores some stuff in registry |
| 14:28.15 | nevcairiel | but not alot |
| 14:28.18 | cbreak | but the standard is to use files in ~/Library/Preferences/ |
| 14:29.03 | malreth | the standard is to use XML formatted .plist files. Means you can control all application settings with MCX policy |
| 14:29.33 | alestane | cbreak: WoW doesn't conform to that so that it can keep directory structure consistent across Mac and Windows implementations. |
| 14:29.40 | cbreak | or binary plist, or plist format plist |
| 14:29.49 | cbreak | I know |
| 14:29.53 | cbreak | I like it that way :) |
| 14:30.01 | cbreak | WoW is a special case in many ways |
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| 14:30.14 | cbreak | it is one of the few applications that writes into it's own directory |
| 14:30.17 | malreth | ~love MCX |
| 14:30.18 | purl | If you love MCX so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh) |
| 14:30.41 | malreth | they should have made it a bundle, just to confuse everyone |
| 14:31.20 | cbreak | it is a bundle... but the data files aren't in it |
| 14:31.51 | malreth | hey, you know what? |
| 14:31.59 | malreth | i don't need you to tell me what i know or not |
| 14:32.07 | malreth | i got my wife for that |
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| 14:32.28 | malreth | she's really good at that, too |
| 14:32.36 | malreth | too good |
| 14:32.50 | Shirik | o.o |
| 14:33.03 | |Jelly| | Apparently I hug too much. lol |
| 14:33.47 | cbreak | hmm... blizzard still didn't sign the binary |
| 14:34.55 | Industrial | (:D) |
| 14:35.01 | |Jelly| | hawt |
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| 15:04.28 | foxlit | Hm, Fallout and Far Cry. Wonder if either is worth buying. |
| 15:04.37 | foxlit | (3 and 2, respectively) |
| 15:07.59 | cbreak | I have read a review on fallout on arstechnica that states that it's a worthy game |
| 15:09.27 | foxlit | And there's also RA3 :/ |
| 15:09.38 | foxlit | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/ seems oddly appropriate |
| 15:09.59 | foxlit | (dates seem weird, though) |
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| 15:17.33 | nevcairiel | wrath date is right, thats important =P |
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| 15:18.00 | foxlit | There's a nice joke about that line continuing on forever |
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| 16:22.05 | mikma | ~MI |
| 16:22.06 | purl | from memory, mi is More Information; saying something "doesn't work" means absolutely nothing, because there are so many millions of ways in which a computer can fail; someone saying "X doesn't work" is really saying nothing, but if they "X says no screens were found", that at least gives the people on #debian a clue as to the area where the problem is. Even better, tell us what hardware you're using, what version of X, what command you tried when X ... |
| 16:22.11 | mikma | .. right |
| 16:22.20 | mikma | what's MI state/town in US and A= |
| 16:22.26 | foxlit | Michigan? |
| 16:23.20 | foxlit | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-2:US |
| 16:24.02 | mikma | foxlit: thank you |
| 16:29.34 | foxlit | lua> s = "foo bar phase"; for phrase in s:gmatch("%a+ %a+") do print(phrase); end |
| 16:29.34 | lua_bot | foxlit: foo bar |
| 16:29.54 | foxlit | which poses a problem :/ |
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| 16:32.04 | Shirik|zZz | foxlit: Do you want every 2 but if only one's left, get the last one? |
| 16:32.20 | foxlit | I want every pair of adjacent words |
| 16:32.32 | Shirik|zZz | foo bad, bar phase? |
| 16:32.35 | Shirik|zZz | foo bar* |
| 16:32.38 | foxlit | yep |
| 16:32.54 | foxlit | eventually "phase stuff" "stuff evil" "evil and" "and so" "so on" |
| 16:33.05 | alcaras | is wowi's new updater out yet? |
| 16:33.36 | Cairenn | no |
| 16:33.52 | foxlit | The easiest mechanic I can think of is shifting it by a word or two. |
| 16:34.36 | alcaras | wtb working skillet or atsw + lil'sparky's workshop or some sort of reagent cost mod |
| 16:34.50 | Shirik|zZz | --> function getIterator(s) local iter = s:gmatch("%S+"); local next = iter(); return coroutine.wrap(function() repeat local this = iter(); if this then coroutine.yield(next, this); next = this; else break; end end) end |
| 16:34.50 | batbot | Shirik|zZz: @ [string "function getIterator(s) local iter = s:gmatch("%S+"); local nex..."]:1: 'until' expected near 'end' |
| 16:34.58 | Shirik|zZz | --> function getIterator(s) local iter = s:gmatch("%S+"); local next = iter(); return coroutine.wrap(function() repeat local this = iter(); if this then coroutine.yield(next, this); next = this; else break; until false end end) end |
| 16:34.59 | batbot | Shirik|zZz: @ [string "function getIterator(s) local iter = s:gmatch("%S+"); local nex..."]:1: 'end' expected near 'until' |
| 16:35.01 | Shirik|zZz | ... |
| 16:35.23 | Shirik|zZz | --> function getIterator(s) local iter = s:gmatch("%S+"); local next = iter(); return coroutine.wrap(function() while true do local this = iter(); if this then coroutine.yield(next, this); next = this; else break; end end) end |
| 16:35.23 | batbot | Shirik|zZz: @ [string "function getIterator(s) local iter = s:gmatch("%S+"); local nex..."]:1: unexpected symbol near ')' |
| 16:35.26 | Shirik|zZz | I HATE YOU |
| 16:35.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik|zZz: quit spamming the channel |
| 16:35.46 | Shirik|zZz | I'm in PMs now... |
| 16:35.54 | foxlit | You know, the presence of coroutine probably implies that you're over-thinking this :) |
| 16:36.03 | Shirik|zZz | coroutine just makes it easier actually |
| 16:36.06 | Shirik|zZz | it can be done without it |
| 16:36.57 | Shirik|zZz | --> for a,b in getIterator("foo bar baz") do print(a," + ", b," | ") end |
| 16:36.57 | batbot | Shirik|zZz: foo + bar | bar + baz | |
| 16:37.03 | Shirik|zZz | how's that? |
| 16:38.25 | foxlit | function toWords(s) local wi = s:gmatch("%a+"); local p, o = wi(); return function() p, o = wi(), p; if p then return p, o; end end end |
| 16:38.33 | foxlit | clearly, two, not to |
| 16:39.20 | foxlit | and o,p not p,o; but yeah, that's good :) |
| 16:39.26 | Shirik|zZz | I guess I didn't need that coroutine. I've just gotten into the habit of using them for iterators |
| 16:39.30 | Shirik|zZz | because it makes things so easy |
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| 16:41.14 | foxlit | I'm actually trying to pick out distinguishing phrases from a text, but this doesn't quite net me what I want |
| 16:43.09 | mikma | how far are minnesota and michigan away from each other? |
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| 16:45.36 | Gngsk | mikma, 610 miles according to google maps |
| 16:46.00 | mikma | now that was a smart move gngsk :D |
| 16:46.23 | foxlit | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&saddr=Minnesota,+Minnesota&daddr=michigan&hl=en&geocode=&mra=pe&mrcr=0&sll=44.314844,-87.697174&sspn=18.54872,26.147461&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=6 ? |
| 16:46.24 | Gngsk | only wisconsin and a lake are between them |
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| 16:55.39 | Shirik|zZz | lol: http://wow.guildregister.com/mkportal/modules/gallery/album/a_48.jpg |
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| 17:06.29 | Hirsute | Only Wisconsin and "a like" are between them? |
| 17:06.37 | Hirsute | s/a like/a lake/ |
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| 17:27.48 | Sixen | Arcane Mages are srtong... |
| 17:27.52 | Sixen | strong* |
| 17:28.02 | foxlit | nerf arcane fortitude, clearly |
| 17:28.20 | ScytheBlade1 | No, they just have one ability tuned around stamina at 80 not 70 |
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| 17:33.20 | Neuro_Medivh | Happy All-saints day! |
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| 17:45.35 | zenzelezz | "so i herd u liek mudkipz"... interesting guild name |
| 17:47.20 | Duman | man |
| 17:47.38 | Duman | blizzard really botched this pally hotfix |
| 17:47.44 | Duman | and did it on a Friday, nonetheless |
| 17:47.47 | Hirsute | Oh? |
| 17:47.59 | foxlit | are paladins still in the game? :/ |
| 17:48.00 | Hirsute | <--Doesn't have a pally. What'd they botch? |
| 17:48.09 | Duman | they did it to lower Ret DPS, but they totally broke protection |
| 17:48.57 | Duman | there is some bug now where if you activate Avenging Wrath when tanking, Divine Guardian (redirect 30% of all your party/raid's damage to you... meant to go off under Divine SHIELD) |
| 17:49.05 | Duman | err, Divine Guardian activates |
| 17:49.14 | Hirsute | Wow. |
| 17:49.29 | Duman | so when the tank hits AW to get some snap aggro or whatever, he explodes |
| 17:49.40 | Duman | especially now that AW induces Forbearance again |
| 17:49.41 | Hirsute | Ick. That is bad. |
| 17:49.45 | Duman | I don't like how they fixed this |
| 17:49.57 | Duman | they should have just given AW and DS linekd cooldowns |
| 17:50.07 | Duman | since that's what the problem was (they claim) |
| 17:50.37 | foxlit | Duman: that might require a client patch |
| 17:51.00 | Duman | yeah, it might... but at least it wouldn't completely ruin people's weekends |
| 17:51.01 | Duman | :) |
| 17:51.10 | foxlit | meh, shush. |
| 17:51.18 | Duman | I don't udnerstand the need to push that hotfix FRIDAY... versus wait until tuesday? |
| 17:51.18 | foxlit | Like anyone does anything worthwhile on weekends :) |
| 17:51.22 | Duman | hehe |
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| 18:37.29 | Dotted | änyone know an alternative to inflight? |
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| 18:54.42 | zenzelezz | so I've been sitting around Ironforge for an hour doing nothing, when out of the blue I get a whisper from some level 30 in Dun Morogh... "u rock" |
| 18:55.00 | zenzelezz | nothing follows, no request for boost, gold, anything o_O |
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| 19:37.29 | Xuerian | zenzelezz: Haha, reminds me of the NSFW "Who rocks? You do" poster |
| 19:38.31 | [SW]Dodge | Xuerian: XLoot *cough* :P |
| 19:38.45 | Xuerian | [SW]Dodge: Good lord you're persistent. |
| 19:39.31 | [SW]Dodge | yeah :P (sorry if i annoy you :D:D) |
| 19:39.32 | Torhal | Xuerian: Count how many channels he's asked you that on yet? |
| 19:39.47 | [SW]Dodge | Torhal: 2 :D |
| 19:39.48 | Xuerian | Torhal: Well, every one I'm in so far :p |
| 19:40.08 | [SW]Dodge | to bad he isnt in #curseorge |
| 19:40.50 | [SW]Dodge | but i didnt ask here, i youst *cough*'d :D |
| 19:40.58 | [SW]Dodge | dunno why it sounds like xloot :D |
| 19:41.15 | Xuerian | Uh-huh. |
| 19:59.01 | bleeter | oh lordy, progress has been made https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79525 |
| 19:59.15 | bleeter | ^^ 7 year old RFE haha |
| 20:00.43 | bleeter | I love how that originally was set to 'WILLNOTFIX', wonder if gmail implementing imap changed their mind ;) |
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| 20:01.48 | Shirik | rawr |
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| 20:03.17 | bleeter | Shirik: just wondering whether a bunch of us unix heads might be able to get away with harassing blizz into using SPF |
| 20:03.30 | bleeter | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sender_Policy_Framework |
| 20:03.53 | bleeter | I get the feeling I've failed in convincing them to pgp type sign their mails... that's prolly second best option |
| 20:04.11 | Corrodias | okay wtf... |
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| 20:05.41 | Corrodias | interesting concept |
| 20:05.54 | Shirik | Sorry bleeter, one sec |
| 20:06.02 | bleeter | Shirik: in yer own time mate :) |
| 20:06.11 | Shirik | robot won't turn on and god knows why we have a software engineer and a mechanical engineer trying to resolve an electrical issue |
| 20:06.16 | Shirik | I need to go stab them |
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| 20:07.11 | zenzelezz | Shirik: commas, please |
| 20:07.24 | Fisker- | NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERD RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
| 20:07.26 | bleeter | ,,,,,,, |
| 20:07.38 | bleeter | Fisker-: RAAAAAAAAAAAR |
| 20:08.33 | Fisker- | Fallout 3 doesn't work properly here ;_; |
| 20:08.45 | bleeter | MOOOAAARRR NEEERRRDD RAAAGGEEEE |
| 20:10.39 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: needs less emo |
| 20:10.41 | Corrodias | work properly? |
| 20:10.58 | Fisker- | Funny story actually |
| 20:11.12 | Fisker- | If the game is launched through Steam (I got it on steam) then the game crashes on startup |
| 20:11.25 | Fisker- | If i just bypass the loader and run Fallout3.exe it works fine |
| 20:11.28 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: needs better understanding of aussie psychology |
| 20:13.33 | Corrodias | well that's strange |
| 20:13.52 | Corrodias | at least you have a workaround :| |
| 20:15.20 | ccox | anyone know of a 3.0 compatible addon that can auto-loot all AH money from the mailbox? |
| 20:15.31 | Dewin | Postal |
| 20:16.45 | ccox | thanks |
| 20:17.40 | Syzgyn | Augh... someone just requested a feature to add a minimap button for the achievement frame >_> |
| 20:17.59 | Dewin | Szygyn: Are you the urban achiever guy? |
| 20:18.03 | Syzgyn | Yar |
| 20:18.21 | Dewin | Nice addon ;) |
| 20:18.35 | Dewin | Though I came close to writing my own for a very specific achievement |
| 20:18.46 | Syzgyn | Thanks :) |
| 20:20.07 | Dewin | It would be nice if there was a way for, say, the world explorer achievements |
| 20:20.18 | Dewin | to track just the most specific unfinished one |
| 20:20.27 | bleeter | Syzgyn: congratulaions ... on being the author of 'that addon' which I've been meaning to install for some time but continually manage, for some inconceivable reason, to forget about |
| 20:20.41 | Syzgyn | haha |
| 20:20.52 | Dewin | say I'm in Barrens and missing one section of it for world explorer. It'd be nice to have it tell me which section of Barrens I'm missing on the tracker... and then... |
| 20:20.57 | Syzgyn | You could be any one of my guildies then :P |
| 20:21.14 | Dewin | once I'm no longer missing something from barrens, tell me what zones I'm still missing stuff from on on the rest of continent |
| 20:21.20 | Dewin | until I enter one where I'm missing something else |
| 20:21.29 | Syzgyn | Dewin: That's way beyond the scope of it. |
| 20:21.31 | Dewin | I had to keep juggle which achievement(s) I was tracking. |
| 20:21.34 | Dewin | Yeah, I figured as much |
| 20:23.07 | Dewin | Right now I want to write something so my questlog, omen, recount, achievement tracker, etc. all 'stack' on each other. |
| 20:23.41 | Syzgyn | Heh |
| 20:23.44 | Dewin | I'm always needing to juggle stuff on that side of the screen |
| 20:23.45 | Corrodias | i wish my blinds were better at blocking light |
| 20:23.54 | Syzgyn | Wait, why omen and recount too? |
| 20:24.20 | Dewin | Syz: The right side of my screen has Recount, Omen, quest tracker, achievements tracker |
| 20:24.31 | Syzgyn | They're used at different times though |
| 20:24.35 | Dewin | It'd be nice if I could, say, get it where they all show below each other |
| 20:24.41 | Syzgyn | not like you're using omen while tracking quests usually |
| 20:24.49 | Dewin | and then 'minimize' (to say just a title bar) the ones I'm not currently concerned about |
| 20:25.07 | foxlit | I'm surprised people are still using Omen :) |
| 20:25.14 | Syzgyn | Dewin: I'd say throwing em in dock would be easier. |
| 20:25.23 | Syzgyn | foxlit: Why so? |
| 20:25.30 | Dewin | foxlit: It's still useful. |
| 20:25.45 | Dewin | Dock sounds like something like what I'm looking for :) |
| 20:25.51 | foxlit | Dewin: only for the lack of something better. |
| 20:26.28 | Dewin | I do miss the aoe mode. |
| 20:26.52 | foxlit | Syzgyn: easier access to threat data for other addons should've made threat indication more integrated into other things, rather than still displaying a bar chart. |
| 20:27.05 | Syzgyn | *shrug* being able to see my whole raid's threat is so nice as a raid leader. |
| 20:27.24 | foxlit | Are you the kind of leader that shouts "Bob, more dots!" on vent? |
| 20:27.32 | Syzgyn | Haha no |
| 20:27.38 | Dewin | I'm guilty of calling out hunters and telling them to FD |
| 20:27.41 | foxlit | Then no, you really couldn't care more :P |
| 20:27.46 | Syzgyn | I could |
| 20:27.48 | foxlit | s/more/less/ |
| 20:27.48 | Dewin | But I'm also a hunter, so I have a good excuse. And I'm not the RL by any means. |
| 20:28.02 | Syzgyn | tells me who to intervene to drop threat, or salv, or put vigilance on, ect |
| 20:28.12 | Xuerian | foxlit: I enjoy competing on the threat meters as a destro lock :P |
| 20:28.26 | Dewin | I'm a DPS so single target threat is (usually) all I'm concerned with |
| 20:28.29 | foxlit | I see your destro lock and raise you to pre-3.0 Balance Druid :P |
| 20:28.43 | foxlit | (cause subtlety is for those with shitty tanks) |
| 20:28.48 | Xuerian | foxlit: I can't hate you, your aura is too om-nom-nom |
| 20:29.02 | Xuerian | And your addon is teh win |
| 20:29.08 | Dewin | aura of awesome? |
| 20:29.24 | foxlit | Yeah, next thing you know, that aura will also give you wings. |
| 20:29.26 | Xuerian | Dewin: If I got a boomkin aura and then totem of wrath+elemental buff... <creams> |
| 20:29.53 | foxlit | And earth and moon mean that warlocks can just use dps curses. |
| 20:30.24 | Xuerian | Doesn't stack with CoE? |
| 20:30.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope |
| 20:30.34 | Xuerian | That's stupid. |
| 20:30.34 | foxlit | Nothing stacks with anything any longer. |
| 20:30.53 | foxlit | Nah, it's reasonable. |
| 20:30.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Every class (but mages...) has a raid debuff shared with another class |
| 20:31.01 | ScytheBlade1 | That does not stack with said other class |
| 20:31.11 | foxlit | You'd feel compelled to bring a balance druid if CoE and EaM stacked |
| 20:31.41 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 20:31.47 | ScytheBlade1 | @ sinister logic, haha |
| 20:31.48 | Corrodias | damn them and their "bring what you want"ness |
| 20:32.05 | Corrodias | more like "get rid of druids"ness, amirite! ;) |
| 20:32.24 | Xuerian | I play a druid too >.> |
| 20:33.00 | foxlit | Had a lot of fun soloing an invasion cluster yesterday. |
| 20:33.13 | foxlit | Apparently interest died to a point where I had it all to myself :/ |
| 20:33.28 | Xuerian | foxlit: It followed a rather nice bell curve =X |
| 20:33.39 | Xuerian | foxlit: I've watched you balance druids soloing that now, it's entirely OP XD |
| 20:33.56 | foxlit | Xuerian: I've soloed it on a mage way back in 1.12 |
| 20:34.25 | Xuerian | Haha, that was fun. I was but a wee feral back then. |
| 20:34.35 | foxlit | Heck, anyone with a working CC/snare can probably do it |
| 20:34.47 | foxlit | (Shades, however, are leashed -- spent a lot of time cursing at that last night) |
| 20:37.34 | Dewin | Heh... invasion clusters |
| 20:37.49 | Dewin | I still had 53 necrotic runes from the pre-Naxx invasion way back when |
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| 20:47.59 | NightHawkTheSane | pfft, snare/cc's are for wimps |
| 20:48.09 | NightHawkTheSane | i solo the clusters on my prot pally |
| 20:48.37 | foxlit | Come back after they nerf you to shreds. |
| 20:48.49 | NightHawkTheSane | i said prot, not ret :P |
| 20:48.57 | foxlit | Collateral damage, np. |
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| 20:49.11 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, most of the ret nerfs really wont hurt prot |
| 20:49.39 | NightHawkTheSane | seals * judgements might do slightly less damage, but so much of prot's awesomeness is from talents. |
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| 21:31.31 | Neuro_Medivh | does anyone know how the LK release will work? Will all servers be up at 12 server time, or 12 est, or 12 pst? |
| 21:32.09 | foxlit | Perhaps you're underestimating the time it'll take you to apply the patch :) |
| 21:32.41 | Neuro_Medivh | No, I'm asking because I live in CST but my main server is PST |
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| 21:32.53 | Gnarfoz | release is on a thursday |
| 21:32.58 | Gnarfoz | servers won't be down at all |
| 21:33.07 | malreth | They'll be up sometime around... oh... Sunday |
| 21:33.12 | Gnarfoz | maybe they will go down *afterwards*, heh |
| 21:33.25 | Neuro_Medivh | sigh, yes, but when will LK content be available is the q |
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| 21:34.02 | malreth | i won't even bother installing until Monday |
| 21:34.11 | malreth | servers should be usable around then |
| 21:34.14 | Neuro_Medivh | for example, for BC, I had it installed and updated by 10pm the night before |
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| 22:28.02 | Lynout3 | meh |
| 22:28.10 | Lynout3 | fallout 3 was a little bit dissappointing |
| 22:28.21 | Lynout3 | (1 or 2 p? :x) |
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| 22:50.41 | foxlit | Lyn: bioshock opening :/ |
| 22:50.51 | Lyn | ^^ |
| 22:51.49 | foxlit | and then fallout opening |
| 22:52.43 | Corrodias | i'm playing bioshock right now, but haven't seen fallout 3 yet |
| 22:52.55 | Corrodias | what are you saying about it? |
| 22:54.09 | foxlit | Nothing yet; just watching the opening cinematics |
| 22:54.30 | foxlit | steam seems to be paranoid about the game requiring a product key :/ |
| 22:54.49 | Corrodias | what do you mean? |
| 22:54.56 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbEwKcs-7Hc |
| 22:55.03 | Lyn | haha, copy protection is fun of fallout 3 ... there is none (except dvd check) |
| 22:55.26 | Lyn | fallout itself is nice.. yeah.. but story is too short - too much walking to stretch it |
| 22:56.04 | Corrodias | what does foxlit mean about a product key? Steam games don't seem to require one as i recall, unless you're unlocking it on Steam with a key. |
| 22:57.27 | Corrodias | i guess i'll come back later and see if he responded between now and then |
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| 23:08.17 | Xinhuan | so which wowi moderator is active atm? |
| 23:08.30 | Cairenn|afk | none |
| 23:08.53 | Xinhuan | i'll like omen's category to be changed from "Ace: Raid" to something else more appropriate ;p |
| 23:09.08 | Cairenn|afk | direct link and decide which :) |
| 23:09.39 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8459-OmenThreatMeter.html |
| 23:09.45 | Xinhuan | probably Combat Mods, or Raid Mods |
| 23:10.02 | Cairenn|afk | pick one |
| 23:10.03 | Xinhuan | can't be in more than 1 category right? |
| 23:10.10 | Cairenn|afk | not at present |
| 23:10.15 | Xinhuan | Combat then |
| 23:10.36 | Cairenn|afk | done |
| 23:10.57 | Xinhuan | thanks :) |
| 23:11.03 | Cairenn|afk | you're welcome |
| 23:11.42 | foxlit | Good heavens. HL2 did the facial animations/voice sync better :/ |
| 23:12.39 | Xinhuan | why the :/ |
| 23:14.36 | zenzelezz | better than what? |
| 23:14.41 | Gnarfoz | Fallout 3, I guess? |
| 23:16.57 | |pez| | Does anyone here know how to ban a mibbit user? |
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| 23:19.41 | zenzelezz | mibbit? |
| 23:19.56 | foxlit | zenzelezz: Fallout 3; Xinhuan: because of the time interval between the two; you'd think tech would move forward. |
| 23:20.05 | foxlit | pez: probably through their i= string |
| 23:20.27 | Kaso | mibbit is an ajax irc client zenzelezz |
| 23:20.34 | zenzelezz | aha |
| 23:20.45 | zenzelezz | foxlit: are there many up-close conversations in Fallout 3? |
| 23:21.13 | |pez| | We've got a idiot in #magento who's trolling and calling us nazis because we're not letting him advertise in the channel. |
| 23:21.29 | Tem | I want to analyze the effect of avoidance DR on TTL |
| 23:21.43 | foxlit | more or less every "conversation" is up-close |
| 23:22.53 | foxlit | There's some background speaking, but you're generally not required to listen to that |
| 23:23.21 | zenzelezz | foxlit: then it does seem a little odd if it's not that good, their games usually feel pretty "smooth" |
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| 23:23.53 | foxlit | There's no specular reflection in the eyes, hair looks static... all in all, people look dead :/ |
| 23:24.01 | foxlit | damn you, uncanny valley, damn you. |
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| 23:28.18 | foxlit | You are approached by a frenzied vault scientist, who yells, "I'm going to put my quantum harmonizer in your photonic resonation chamber" |
| 23:29.20 | zenzelezz | at least he's still talking to you. All the "people" I meet in Dead Space just want to kill me |
| 23:29.20 | Lyn | hehe |
| 23:30.17 | foxlit | "Your grandmother invites you to tea, but [...] orders you to kill another vault resident. What do you do?" |
| 23:30.26 | foxlit | Oh the moral quandaries. |
| 23:30.38 | Lyn | i chose the first one |
| 23:30.42 | Lyn | i take the gun and kill her |
| 23:30.42 | Lyn | :D |
| 23:31.30 | foxlit | I thought the first one was take the gun and kill him. |
| 23:31.49 | foxlit | The only grandmother-hostile option was throwing tea in your face, which seemed odd. |
| 23:32.31 | foxlit | s/your/her/ |
| 23:33.11 | Lyn | hm |
| 23:33.47 | Lyn | then i should read the description more carefully |
| 23:33.58 | foxlit | "the next vault... chaplain" |
| 23:35.36 | *** join/#wowuidev bleeter_ (n=bleeter@guifications/developer/bleeter) |
| 23:35.50 | Lyn | gief wotlk.. or wait, still have red alert 3 left but i am bad at rts games |
| 23:36.04 | foxlit | Lyn: tank spam, go. |
| 23:36.17 | Lyn | ^^ |
| 23:36.33 | Lyn | i loved generals and the tunnels of the terrorists |
| 23:36.34 | Lyn | ! |
| 23:46.10 | Corrodias | so foxlit. what was that about a product key? |
| 23:46.11 | *** join/#wowuidev AbsoRayne (n=chatzill@pool-72-73-223-149.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) |
| 23:46.28 | foxlit | steam is paranoid, apparently |
| 23:46.45 | foxlit | It's saying that I'll need to type in the key it's showing me, but that opportunity never arose |
| 23:46.46 | AbsoRayne | Quick, how do I tell a GM who cant stop being a lootwhore and ignoring his Officers and Raid Leaders that were not ready |
| 23:47.04 | Corrodias | AbsoRayne: /gquit |
| 23:47.14 | AbsoRayne | He wants to drag us into Sunwell just because 'Wushi wants to'. |
| 23:47.21 | AbsoRayne | Corrodias: Im close to, but not yet. |
| 23:54.01 | |Jelly| | drag? |
| 23:57.04 | mikma | queen? |
| 23:57.21 | Lyn | ! |
| 23:58.14 | zenzelezz | he just wants his welfare legendary bow |
