| 00:01.00 | Amarande | well, I think I just figured out the best weapon for non-melee class 1-10 characters to be wielding |
| 00:01.10 | End | ARGG |
| 00:01.17 | Amarande | Strong Fishing Pole. :) |
| 00:01.47 | Amarande | Might even be best overall for such classes until you get a real stat stick |
| 00:02.21 | Amarande | seeing as until then, the max fishing skill (which is your weapon skill with a fishing rod) is always WAY more than you can ever have as a weapon skill on a regular melee weapon anyway |
| 00:02.58 | mikma | amarande: umm, aint that outlands quest |
| 00:03.41 | KarlKFI | no, that's a blue |
| 00:04.14 | mikma | blue? |
| 00:04.22 | KarlKFI | the one from outlands |
| 00:04.28 | KarlKFI | it's +15 i think |
| 00:04.38 | KarlKFI | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=6365 is the one without lvl req |
| 00:05.00 | Amarande | mikma: no, strong fishing pole is the +5 one that's limited supply from vendors |
| 00:05.01 | KarlKFI | well lvl 5 |
| 00:05.19 | Amarande | however, once you get your hands on that |
| 00:05.25 | mikma | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25978 |
| 00:05.34 | mikma | thats the outlands pole |
| 00:05.41 | Amarande | I only really just realized tonight how much it outclasses regular weapons for nonmelee classes at low level |
| 00:06.15 | KarlKFI | mmm guess the fishing event one is the onyl blue one |
| 00:06.16 | Amarande | maybe even higher levels too if you -really- need to melee things (*cough* running people through SFK *cough*) |
| 00:06.45 | mikma | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44050 ... wowzies |
| 00:07.27 | NightHawkTheSane | just in case you want to fish underwater.. :p |
| 00:07.30 | ScytheBlade1 | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/october/wotlkworldevent_7.jpg |
| 00:08.25 | Amarande | heh, didn't underwater breathing items just become pretty much not worth getting with the 3.0 patch, though? |
| 00:08.35 | Amarande | I'm not even sure if it's worth carrying shiny fish scales on my shaman anymore |
| 00:09.03 | mikma | wow needs more aids-type of illness |
| 00:09.03 | Xuerian | ScytheBlade1: Had a horde of them =D It's also worth nothing that Mangle stacks 20 times |
| 00:09.08 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* it still handy in some places, just so you dont have to orry about it |
| 00:09.15 | Amarande | mikma: that would actually be fairly easy to implement in WoW |
| 00:09.18 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: wow needs the old-school hakkar disease. ;) |
| 00:09.24 | Amarande | "Increases your chance of being affected by Disease-type debuffs by X%" |
| 00:09.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: it's been done, actually :p |
| 00:09.28 | mikma | aye, hakkar <3 |
| 00:09.39 | Xuerian | hakkar was fun :3 |
| 00:09.42 | mikma | splat, splat, splat, splat |
| 00:09.58 | Xuerian | WHO WASN'T POISONED?! |
| 00:10.25 | Xuerian | <Whole raid turns to one person, 18 fingers point> .. that was fun. |
| 00:10.25 | mikma | whole realm was, always |
| 00:10.36 | mikma | and hunterr pets made it happen =D |
| 00:11.19 | mikma | wow-aids for goldsellers |
| 00:11.23 | mikma | what a dream |
| 00:11.43 | Shirik|AFK | clad|sleep: ping |
| 00:11.46 | mikma | "if you are level 1 over 5min you get aids" |
| 00:12.43 | NightHawkTheSane | http://wowaids.ytmnd.com/ |
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| 00:13.42 | mikma | oh wow |
| 00:13.52 | mikma | that dont have any lenght in it |
| 00:14.03 | mikma | the one i witnessed had 10sec or so |
| 00:15.20 | mikma | got the poison, hot while you ran into distance = hot won and you survived |
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| 00:16.55 | Lopeppeppy | For the record, I officially despise Stormwind Harbor. *sigh* |
| 00:17.12 | NightHawkTheSane | whyso? |
| 00:18.18 | Lopeppeppy | Run up the wall. Run around the whole damn city to get out of the city. *sigh* PITA |
| 00:18.19 | Amarande | Lopeppeppy: too used to SW the way it was? |
| 00:20.28 | Lopeppeppy | Really despise Stormwind, actually, I hate the whole canal run around system, always have. |
| 00:20.51 | NightHawkTheSane | SW is laid out kinda obnoxiously, yeah |
| 00:22.35 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. Add the harbor and its somewhere I'd rather not go, ever. |
| 00:22.44 | NightHawkTheSane | damn, crossroads is already infected. |
| 00:22.54 | NightHawkTheSane | i guess i can shamble on up to org. |
| 00:23.14 | NightHawkTheSane | very.. slowly.. |
| 00:23.32 | Codex| | whatever you do, stay off zeppelins and boats |
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| 00:25.40 | Lunessa | Configuring multiple XP installations using Virtual PC under Windows Vista Enterprise is a lot of trouble for not that much gain... |
| 00:25.47 | Lopeppeppy | Hiya, Dolby again! |
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| 00:27.42 | Codex| | you would think, with the crates being right next to the stv -> ratchet boat, that SOMEONE, would have beta tested turning into a zombie THEN taking the boat |
| 00:27.45 | Codex| | really... i mean, come on |
| 00:29.49 | Dolby | hi yas Lopeppeppy :) |
| 00:30.43 | AbsoRayne | >_> |
| 00:30.50 | AbsoRayne | |Jelly|: ping |
| 00:31.35 | Lopeppeppy | AbsoRayne, which addon is it that hides error messages such as, "You cannot take a taxi while shapeshifted". I didn't see ErrorMonster... |
| 00:32.06 | AbsoRayne | Errormoster was broken 2 weeks ago. See if its been updated? |
| 00:32.16 | AbsoRayne | I know theres another one but I cant think of the name |
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| 00:32.28 | Lopeppeppy | What is it in Cherry Light that does it? |
| 00:32.44 | AbsoRayne | it was Errormonster, but it was throwing LUA Errors at me on the Beta server |
| 00:32.50 | krka | AbsoRayne: Don't call it that. |
| 00:33.09 | jaxdahl | hm |
| 00:33.14 | AbsoRayne | Sorry? |
| 00:33.31 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm. Like I said, I don't see that in the package, but *something* in Cherry Light is eating my error messages. |
| 00:33.44 | AbsoRayne | O_o odd |
| 00:33.51 | alestane | There's a certain knee-jerk reaction to capitalizing Lua as if it were an acronym. |
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| 00:34.11 | Gngsk | Tekkub, ping |
| 00:34.16 | NeoTron | luA |
| 00:34.18 | TwystNeko | hey folks. Can I ask about Ace coding in here? |
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| 00:34.20 | Tekkub | wut |
| 00:34.31 | Gngsk | would you consider adding a 'clear' button to the spew frame? |
| 00:34.44 | NeoTron | TwystNeko: I'm sure you can but #wowace might be better, possibly |
| 00:34.46 | Tekkub | why? :P |
| 00:34.55 | TwystNeko | NeoTron: thanks. |
| 00:34.56 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah. If you don't know, I'll just binary it out to figure out which one is hungry for messages and kick it in the teeth. |
| 00:35.10 | Gngsk | cause sometimes those grey curley braces aren't enough for me and I'd rather just start fresh |
| 00:35.19 | TwystNeko | bleh |
| 00:35.25 | TwystNeko | I can't join the channel |
| 00:35.29 | Tekkub | let me finish playing with autohotkey |
| 00:35.34 | Gngsk | no rush |
| 00:35.35 | AbsoRayne | XD |
| 00:35.37 | Gngsk | just saying |
| 00:35.47 | Gngsk | also those empty button spaces are just screaming for something to fill them up |
| 00:36.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: i noticed nQuestLog was eating my errors on beta, due to some improper hooking, so it might be some addon that sends messages to that frame |
| 00:36.31 | Lopeppeppy | Ah. I do have nQuestlog. Hmm. |
| 00:39.05 | NightHawkTheSane | it looks like a fix was committed on the 16th (r194), though, so you might try updating from here: http://www.wowace.com/projects/n-quest-log/ |
| 00:39.31 | Lopeppeppy | <3 ! |
| 00:44.20 | Amarande | I remember nQuestLog :) |
| 00:44.34 | Amarande | I was introduced to it by an earlier version of Mirage UI |
| 00:44.46 | Lopeppeppy | I like it pretty well. |
| 00:44.52 | Amarande | as I recall, one of the reasons I stopped using Mirage was that the 2.4 version of it switched to MonkeyQuest, which sucked by comparison |
| 00:45.11 | Amarande | Eventually I switched to QuestsFu, I'm not exactly sure why |
| 00:45.15 | Amarande | and now I use QuestGuru |
| 00:45.24 | Amarande | since I don't have FuBar anymore |
| 00:45.53 | Amarande | I keep thinking to redo my UI back to the old fubar-based UI now that things are more updated, but I haven't got around to it, so titan panel it is for now lol |
| 00:47.00 | Tekkub | LDB :P |
| 00:47.58 | NightHawkTheSane | i like the way nQuestLog looks too much to give it up |
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| 00:54.51 | Lunessa | Night all. |
| 00:55.02 | Lopeppeppy | Night, drive safe |
| 00:55.20 | Xuerian_Alt | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:55.30 | Codex| | zombies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVnfyradCPY |
| 00:56.54 | TwystNeko | well, since #wowace seems to have nothing but sleeping people in it - can anyone help me with AceConfig-3.0? I'm trying to make a multiselect from the list of non-combat pets (which I can get) |
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| 00:58.07 | swall | hello |
| 01:00.38 | Syzgyn | hallo |
| 01:00.46 | |Jelly| | amg hai |
| 01:01.02 | Lopeppeppy | Ni hao |
| 01:01.26 | Shirik | win |
| 01:01.29 | Shirik | akama down, 35 seconds |
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| 01:01.46 | swall | hi, i was wondering if anyone could maybe help me out with some script basics... im trying to figure out how i can get the information out of one part of a function when it has multiple return info |
| 01:01.56 | swall | for a macro i mean |
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| 01:02.09 | Shirik | local a, b, c = somefunction() |
| 01:02.19 | swall | can i put that in a macro shirik? |
| 01:02.21 | Shirik | sure |
| 01:02.25 | Shirik | assuming /script |
| 01:02.28 | swall | oh jeez |
| 01:02.37 | Gngsk | what're you trying to do? |
| 01:02.39 | swall | thanks let me try |
| 01:02.48 | Shirik | then just use whatever you need |
| 01:02.56 | swall | im trying to make a macro to check in my squashling is summoned, and if not summon it |
| 01:03.04 | Shirik | ummm |
| 01:03.08 | Shirik | how do you intend to do that second part? |
| 01:03.47 | swall | CallCompanion? |
| 01:03.57 | Shirik | oh |
| 01:04.00 | Shirik | I was thinking warlock pets |
| 01:04.06 | Syzgyn | ~failrik |
| 01:04.06 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 01:04.07 | TwystNeko | oh |
| 01:04.16 | TwystNeko | a callCompanion macro is pretty simple. |
| 01:04.26 | swall | not for me! |
| 01:04.30 | TwystNeko | sec |
| 01:05.02 | Shirik | Shh, TwystNeko |
| 01:05.05 | Shirik | don't you dare tell him how to do it |
| 01:05.24 | TwystNeko | Yea, why should I help people, eh? |
| 01:05.29 | Shirik | You're not helping him |
| 01:05.35 | Shirik | ~fish |
| 01:05.36 | purl | from memory, fish is FISHFISHFISH! DO THE FISH DANCE! "Give a man a fish and you'll feed him a day. Teach him how to fish and he'll feed himself for the rest of his life." This is so appropriate, instead of asking us to tell you exactly what to do, why not read some docs, then come back and ask specific questions which aren't covered?, or http://www.p-nand-q.com/maldives/rbr/fish/sf25.jpg |
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| 01:05.48 | swall | hehe dont worry this his kinda fun i just couldnt for the life of me figure out howto get that one part out of the other stuff |
| 01:05.50 | Shirik | Ever heard that phrase? |
| 01:05.58 | TwystNeko | Yea. way to go, guys. |
| 01:05.59 | Shirik | Giving him the script is going to teach him nothing |
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| 01:06.13 | Shirik | I gave him the info he needs so that he can learn how to do it, try to experiment, etc. |
| 01:06.15 | Shirik | Which is FAR more valuable |
| 01:06.36 | Shirik | The second half of what purl said doesn't really apply |
| 01:06.41 | Shirik | but... "Give a man a fish and you'll feed him a day. Teach him how to fish and he'll feed himself for the rest of his life." |
| 01:07.04 | Shirik | he was willing to learn; don't take that away from him |
| 01:07.12 | Shirik | swall, if you have additional questions, feel free to ask |
| 01:07.16 | Kraps | anyone else having problems connecting to a server? |
| 01:07.37 | Shirik | I haven't had any issues |
| 01:07.42 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, more like "set a man on fire and you will keep him warm for the rest of his life" |
| 01:07.50 | Thunder_Child | admitedly short |
| 01:08.01 | Shirik | you are a cynical man |
| 01:08.17 | Thunder_Child | please tell me you are not just figureing this out now? |
| 01:08.26 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, I think that's part of kamdis' forum tag line.... |
| 01:08.32 | Shirik | It used to be part of mine |
| 01:08.49 | Thunder_Child | yes, but i like it and dont want to change |
| 01:08.54 | Thunder_Child | i also like being an asshole |
| 01:09.21 | Shirik | well, you do use a digital camera so |
| 01:09.27 | Shirik | I expect you to be evil |
| 01:09.35 | Thunder_Child | so is everyone else then |
| 01:09.40 | Lopeppeppy | But his pictures are already posted. :) |
| 01:09.42 | Thunder_Child | since you seem to be the only one NOT |
| 01:09.49 | Shirik | :( |
| 01:09.59 | Thunder_Child | speaking of which Lopeppeppy, where are yours? |
| 01:10.31 | Kraps | i think i lost all my bg marks... |
| 01:11.10 | Lopeppeppy | I've put some up in Esamynn's album, TC |
| 01:11.10 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy suddenly clammed up when you asked that :( |
| 01:11.36 | Gngsk | Kinda late on the fish topic but the reason I asked what the macro was for is cause sometimes you can be fishing for extinct species of fish. |
| 01:11.36 | Lopeppeppy | Look for the ones owned by me. I didn't bother to duplicate anything Esamynn already had, unless my shots were better somehow. |
| 01:13.09 | Shirik | Gonna go take a nap |
| 01:13.10 | Shirik | bbl |
| 01:13.25 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy, so you have. i withdraw my statment |
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| 01:14.24 | NightHawkTheSane | orgrimmar battlemasters: infected. |
| 01:14.25 | Amarande | hmm, I can imagine how Arthas got sent down the path to becoming a death knight: |
| 01:14.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: because this is fun as hell? :D |
| 01:14.37 | Amarande | Sometime during the culling of Stratholme. Repeat this enough times to drive even the strongest will insane: |
| 01:14.45 | Amarande | ARTHAS: Child, did you eat any of those honeycakes? |
| 01:14.58 | Amarande | KID: Please, good Prince ... our family is poor, we hardly ever get to have hon -- |
| 01:14.59 | Amarande | *SQUISH* |
| 01:15.58 | Amarande | ARTHAS: Did you buy any of that bread being sold for extra cheap? |
| 01:16.00 | Lopeppeppy | I do still have some to edit, Thunder_Child, but I was out of batteries for half of the event and just lazy |
| 01:16.07 | Amarande | POOR MAN: I was starving, good Prince, it's all I could aff -- |
| 01:16.09 | Amarande | *SQUISH* |
| 01:16.33 | Amarande | Yeah, I think that's the sort of thing to send almost anyone down the dark side |
| 01:16.58 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy, i know you had pics, i just didnt realize you had put them up. and no need to talk to me about lazy, i put up the 2007 blizzcon dinner pictures up just one month before 2008 blizzcon |
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| 01:18.11 | Lopeppeppy | Dolby got up the Pole Dancing picture, that one is the awesome. |
| 01:18.26 | Cairenn | hehehhe |
| 01:18.36 | Thunder_Child | yes...that one.....*sigh* |
| 01:18.36 | Cairenn | he even put a name on the pole ;) |
| 01:18.49 | Lopeppeppy | I will always think of it as pole dancing, even if it's more a pole-sandwich. |
| 01:19.15 | Thunder_Child | must...not...take....openings..... |
| 01:19.22 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: hehehehe |
| 01:19.26 | Cairenn | coward ;) |
| 01:19.28 | Lopeppeppy | No, that would be crude and sooooo unlike you, amirite? |
| 01:20.07 | Thunder_Child | yes i am a coward. Lopeppeppy "little 'ol me" |
| 01:20.20 | Thunder_Child | wow...thanks Cairenn, that seems to come in rather handy |
| 01:20.37 | Lopeppeppy | I am still ravenous, what is *UP* with this? |
| 01:20.50 | Cairenn | sorry luv |
| 01:21.56 | NightHawkTheSane | what the crap? http://bread-and-honey.blogspot.com/2008/10/wtf-broccoli.html |
| 01:23.37 | Cairenn | that's positively frightening |
| 01:24.12 | Lopeppeppy | Subliminal advertising on vegetables. |
| 01:24.13 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet. |
| 01:25.50 | Fisker- | i hate you clad|sleep |
| 01:25.54 | Fisker- | also you |
| 01:26.20 | Thunder_Child | we hate you too Fisker- |
| 01:26.41 | swall | sweet! i think i did it guys |
| 01:27.04 | swall | this works, its not gonna do anything wierd is it? /script local a, b, c, d, e = GetCompanionInfo("CRITTER", 13); if (e == nil) then CallCompanion("CRITTER", 13); end |
| 01:28.26 | NightHawkTheSane | swall: nil values evaluate to false on their own, so you can typically just to `if not e then` |
| 01:28.28 | Fisker- | np Thunder_Child |
| 01:28.30 | Fisker- | but i hate you the most |
| 01:28.47 | swall | ok ill give it a shot |
| 01:29.00 | |Yssaril| | clad|sleep: ping |
| 01:29.11 | Thunder_Child | promises promises Fisker- |
| 01:30.05 | swall | NightHawkTheSane that worked thanks |
| 01:30.23 | swall | any other hints on how i could make it a bit smaller to fit it into my mount macro? |
| 01:32.34 | NightHawkTheSane | weee, argent crusader npcs at the bulwark: infected. irony: check. |
| 01:35.06 | Amarande | hopefully it doesn't come to eversong too quickly |
| 01:35.09 | swall | thanks for all the help guys |
| 01:35.18 | Amarande | not that I'm likely to catch it, since I've been hanging out at pretty remote places |
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| 01:35.27 | Amarande | but it'll be REALLY annoying if I can't turn in all my quests because of dead npcs |
| 01:35.44 | Lopeppeppy | Y'all make it sound like chicken pox. I couldn't catch it standing around Stormwind BEGGING for it. |
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| 01:35.49 | Aznamir | HI all |
| 01:36.00 | Lopeppeppy | Ya-hi |
| 01:36.01 | Amarande | apparently people have been using it to kill NPCs |
| 01:36.09 | Aznamir | Who's good with them... algorithms? |
| 01:36.17 | Amarande | someone, Alliance I presume infected and killed off all the Horde battle masters in Shattrath |
| 01:36.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: well, there's not really a whole lot else to do with it, aside from suicide-infect groups of players or npcs |
| 01:36.34 | Lopeppeppy | what kind of algrithhms, Aznamir? |
| 01:36.37 | Aznamir | I need a code review for http://wowuidev.pastey.net/99297 |
| 01:37.06 | Amarande | yeah, there's not even an achievement associated with it that I know of, is there? |
| 01:37.17 | Amarande | though stupid me looked at the halloween achievements instead of the scourge invasion ones :P |
| 01:37.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: its not really that hard to get, i mean just go to bb :P |
| 01:37.38 | Amarande | speaking of which, will the Halloween achievements from this year still be obtainable at Hallow's End 09? |
| 01:38.02 | NightHawkTheSane | seems likely |
| 01:38.13 | NightHawkTheSane | considering the brewfest ones have to be |
| 01:38.27 | Lopeppeppy | NightHawkTheSane, running to BB at 20 is more pain than it could ever be worth |
| 01:38.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: oh. you're 20? well.. yeah.. |
| 01:39.10 | Amarande | Lopeppeppy: Alliance? |
| 01:39.22 | NightHawkTheSane | (she said stormwind, so i assume) |
| 01:39.32 | Amarande | hmm |
| 01:39.49 | Amarande | probably your easiest way is to go to darkshore, go over into ashenvale, then through the tunnel into stonetalon and through the barrens to ratchet |
| 01:40.00 | Amarande | what class are you? |
| 01:40.13 | Lopeppeppy | Amarande, yes |
| 01:40.36 | Kraps | loading screen for 15 minutes now |
| 01:40.40 | Lopeppeppy | The run isn't worth it for a minor wheeee-infection thing. Next year will be soon enough to hunt zombies |
| 01:40.41 | Amarande | I know for Shamans it's ridiculously easy because even if you aggro any horde guards going through the Barrens, they are unable to catch up to you in ghostwolf form |
| 01:40.49 | Amarande | um |
| 01:40.53 | Amarande | the infection thing isn't halloween |
| 01:41.00 | Amarande | that's the scourge invasion world event for pre-WOTLK :) |
| 01:41.21 | Lopeppeppy | Oh well, then I don't go hunting zombies again! |
| 01:41.37 | NightHawkTheSane | to be honest, its fairly mild at the moment |
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| 01:42.01 | NightHawkTheSane | who knows if it will become more interesting later, but for now it's a mild distraction |
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| 01:43.44 | NightHawkTheSane | damn, there's argent healers all over undercity |
| 01:44.11 | |Jelly| | Is it just me or are there no more holy paladins? |
| 01:44.14 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. Very energetic, those Argent Assholes. |
| 01:44.19 | |Jelly| | like ... not ONE |
| 01:44.30 | |pez| | Ooh, fuckit, I'm getting drugs to help me sleep on monday. I can't take this anymore. |
| 01:44.31 | Lopeppeppy | |Jelly|, holy got screwed. Why use it until your raid group forces you to? |
| 01:45.03 | |Jelly| | Welcome to the life of a priest? Deal with it and heal "you" tards. |
| 01:45.14 | Kraps | hey, my server is on the login screen list of problems! .... oh wait thats not a good thing |
| 01:45.26 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. Except we don't scale in T6 and T7, so even "healing" is beyond a holydin. |
| 01:45.29 | NightHawkTheSane | am i the only one who saw holy priests easily being competetive healers in beta? ..> |
| 01:46.23 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, they totally are, NightHawkTheSane. Holy priests do well. |
| 01:46.23 | NightHawkTheSane | er |
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| 01:46.23 | NightHawkTheSane | i meant paladins |
| 01:46.24 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 01:46.48 | NightHawkTheSane | sorry, was talking about priests to someone in wow. ;) |
| 01:46.57 | Lopeppeppy | They got... some balancing. But the Beacon talent is a joke, and the T6/T7 imbalance issue really hurt players' willingness to keep on trying, you know? |
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| 01:47.17 | Lopeppeppy | When your raid leader is benching you because the fights don't let you heal, then keeping you benched as the raid outgears you... that sucks ass. |
| 01:47.22 | |Jelly| | I guess I should heal (priest) some before Wrath comes out and I play my paladin almost exclusively |
| 01:47.42 | NightHawkTheSane | i don't know what t7 issue you're talking about, but anyone who assumes that tbc issues will necessarily persist into wrath are being silly |
| 01:48.07 | NightHawkTheSane | in beta, i saw paladins doing -very- well as healers in t7 content |
| 01:48.18 | Lopeppeppy | The issues don't have to persist if you're already fed up with your class, NightHawkTheSane. Many of them swapped earlier than this patch. |
| 01:48.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: but that's not a problem with the class at all |
| 01:49.10 | |Jelly| | I guess I never saw an issue with paladin healing in earlier T6 raiding (never got past bloodboil) |
| 01:49.18 | Amarande | this sounds like an issue with bad raid leaders rather than with game design |
| 01:49.27 | Lopeppeppy | Ghostwalker has admitted that holy paladins faced imbalance in T6/t7 content, and many holy paladins saw it quite glaringly clearly. |
| 01:49.58 | |Jelly| | *shrug* I guess the game will end when no one wants to play healers. |
| 01:50.00 | NightHawkTheSane | |Jelly|: well, bloodboil, and that area of content is where paladins started to fall behind in tbc raids, largely because aoe-healing became more necessary |
| 01:50.02 | Amarande | unfortunately, there are a lot of bad raid leaders |
| 01:50.24 | Lopeppeppy | Exactly, to both NightHawkTheSane and Amarande |
| 01:51.00 | Amarande | hmm, speaking of that |
| 01:51.16 | Amarande | are there any particular raid fights you can think of where the healer(s) MUST be one particular class or another? |
| 01:51.32 | Amarande | I know there's a few where the tank has to be a specific class, but I can't think of any where the healer has to be |
| 01:51.38 | Lopeppeppy | Past bloodboil, don't be a paladin. |
| 01:51.41 | |Jelly| | AFAIK, there's a lot of fights that need the healer to be able to AoE. |
| 01:51.57 | Lopeppeppy | And a lot of fights for cleansing things paladins can't cleanse. |
| 01:52.04 | |Jelly| | But like I said, I never got to see them because people are stupid in the face. |
| 01:52.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: yeah, i'm certainly not denying that the end of TBC content was bad for holy pallies |
| 01:52.25 | |Jelly| | "Wait. I'm supposed to move IN FRONT of the line?" |
| 01:52.41 | NightHawkTheSane | all im saying is that in beta, i never noticed them having any problems |
| 01:53.18 | NightHawkTheSane | (which isn't to say there WERENT any, but I suspect that most of them are reasonably diminished) |
| 01:53.59 | Lopeppeppy | I haven't heard anything that is luring back the paladins who left holy. The Beacon is a joke... if the talents are going to be that screwy, what hope is there of catching back up in raid utillity? |
| 01:54.44 | NightHawkTheSane | well, i'm not going to sit here trying to convince anyone. :) |
| 01:54.57 | |Jelly| | hate these people |
| 01:55.00 | |Jelly| | inc minispam |
| 01:55.09 | |Jelly| | [Fluffyyeti]: I'll give BoK |
| 01:55.11 | |Jelly| | [Fluffyyeti]: Lesli give sanc/wis |
| 01:55.13 | |Jelly| | [Fluffyyeti]: Sco give might |
| 01:55.16 | NightHawkTheSane | But it's certainly a mistake to call a class broken just because certain people were turned off once and don't want to go back. |
| 01:55.29 | |Jelly| | Die in a fire. I'll cast whatever in the hell I want to. |
| 01:55.37 | Lopeppeppy | Ghostcrawler gave me the "broken" line. *shrug* |
| 01:55.37 | NightHawkTheSane | But hey, if pallies ARE broken and don't get raid spots, it means my resto shaman will be in more demand, win-win. :D |
| 01:55.40 | |Jelly| | Translation: "You fuckers are eating sanc" |
| 01:55.44 | Corrodias | WoW is broken because i don't want to play it any more |
| 01:55.54 | Corrodias | deal with that |
| 01:56.03 | kd3 | damn it queue... |
| 01:56.05 | |Jelly| | I don't think I can. |
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| 01:57.42 | Lopeppeppy | Hey! |
| 01:57.43 | Lopeppeppy | *pout* |
| 01:57.45 | Lopeppeppy | Not nice. |
| 01:58.03 | NightHawkTheSane | i'd rather have retards dpsing, honestly |
| 01:58.25 | NightHawkTheSane | i mean, you really dont want your retards healing or tanking, that just never goes well |
| 01:58.36 | Corrodias | well yes |
| 01:58.44 | Corrodias | but a raid can fail if the retards are dpsing too |
| 01:58.50 | Corrodias | you're right, it's less vital |
| 01:59.48 | Kraps | as a prot pally, whats your first talent choices? |
| 01:59.55 | Kraps | *ret |
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| 02:04.05 | Kraps | deflection or benediction? |
| 02:04.48 | NightHawkTheSane | for a ret build, it should be reasonably obvious. |
| 02:05.46 | Kraps | its not to me, thats why i asked |
| 02:05.57 | Mikk | deflection is a tanking talent |
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| 02:06.06 | NightHawkTheSane | well, take a moment and think. The point of a retribution build is primarily dps. |
| 02:06.19 | Kraps | yes |
| 02:06.37 | NightHawkTheSane | so you want to take talents that improve your dps and sustainability |
| 02:07.04 | Kraps | Mikk: deflection is in the ret tree |
| 02:07.14 | NightHawkTheSane | deflection only provides 5% parry, if you're not tanking, that's a pretty worthless talent. |
| 02:07.19 | Mikk | i know. it is still a tanking talent :P |
| 02:07.36 | NightHawkTheSane | remember, parry is meaningless if you're not getting hit. |
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| 02:07.57 | Mikk | not that everyone knows that parrying = speedy next swing |
| 02:08.02 | NightHawkTheSane | benediction, on the other hand, provides a 10% reduction for all your instant spells. As a ret pally, almost all the spells you cast, are instant |
| 02:08.27 | Kraps | playing my level 15 be pally while my main sever is down |
| 02:08.32 | Kraps | ok thanks |
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| 02:11.36 | Amarande | how long does this zombie thing go on for :| |
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| 02:12.06 | Lopeppeppy | Until it stops? |
| 02:12.31 | AnduinLothar | purl, lock anduinlothar |
| 02:12.31 | purl | locking factoid anduinlothar, AnduinLothar |
| 02:12.35 | AnduinLothar | yay |
| 02:12.44 | Amarande | apparently people are using it to grief their own faction :| |
| 02:13.04 | Kraps | the lag issues are getting ridiculous |
| 02:13.45 | jaxdahl | someone got 2 deathchargers in 19 runs |
| 02:14.13 | Lopeppeppy | ~anduinlothar |
| 02:14.14 | purl | i heard anduinlothar is an addon author and former Cosmos Team lead. He also goes by KarlKFI and plays a paladin on Doomhammer called Anduinlothar. For more information see http://www.karlkfi.com or http://www.wowwiki.com/User:KarlKFI For addons by Karl see http://www.wowinterface.com/list.php?skinnerid=18098 |
| 02:14.51 | ScytheBlade1 | So |
| 02:14.56 | ScytheBlade1 | We managed to get Khadgar infected |
| 02:15.05 | Lopeppeppy | Sbo. *laugh* |
| 02:15.06 | ScytheBlade1 | That was amusing |
| 02:15.15 | ScytheBlade1 | I now have a screenshot of a dead Khadgar zombie |
| 02:15.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Which was zapped by the nearby cleansing NPC |
| 02:15.33 | NightHawkTheSane | i really need to get my student loan mailings sent to my apartment, and not my moms house |
| 02:15.43 | Lopeppeppy | That's rude and wrong and sexy awesome, ScytheBlade1. |
| 02:15.45 | Lopeppeppy | NightHawkTheSane, yes. |
| 02:15.52 | NightHawkTheSane | i swear, she gets ONE late notice, and spends ALL night calling me >< |
| 02:16.34 | Tem | This instance not found crap is annoying as hell |
| 02:16.47 | Amarande | I wouldn't know, I'm killing the more retarded Amani trolls |
| 02:16.55 | Amarande | the ones who apparently aren't smart enough to level to 70-72 and become elite |
| 02:17.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: well, 50% of the population has to be below average. ;) |
| 02:17.47 | Lopeppeppy | Tem, where did you misplace your instance *THIS TIME* ? :P |
| 02:18.09 | Tem | I keep losing arena matches because I'm trained to click the button immediately |
| 02:18.34 | Amarande | hmm, apparently someone came up with a new wow spoof song idea! |
| 02:18.35 | |Jelly| | ckknight: Ping |
| 02:18.42 | Amarande | "I love you, you love me, unless you're flagged for P v P" |
| 02:18.55 | ckknight | hey |Jelly| |
| 02:19.03 | Amarande | Someone should make an album of these. |
| 02:19.10 | Amarande | Along with things like "Tainted Ooze" and "Addicted to WoW." |
| 02:19.43 | Lopeppeppy | Tem -- you have to wait to click on an arena button now? Huh? |
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| 02:20.27 | Redguard | yes Lopeppeppy, make sure you wait 61 seconds if you are faced against me |
| 02:20.51 | Redguard | :o |
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| 02:21.09 | Lopeppeppy | Ouchies! |
| 02:21.11 | kd3 | whee. made it to strat and wow crashed |
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| 02:21.22 | Gngsk | Tem, write an addon that prevents the button from showing up for 15s! |
| 02:21.32 | Lopeppeppy | Or grit your teeth and count to 10. |
| 02:21.34 | Lopeppeppy | In Greek. |
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| 02:22.28 | kd3 | oh c'mon... wtb strat zone-in |
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| 02:23.17 | kd3 | meh, tried to zone in as a zombie |
| 02:23.19 | kd3 | logged in dead |
| 02:23.21 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:23.22 | Redguard | kd3 which server are you on |
| 02:23.27 | kd3 | medivh |
| 02:23.29 | Redguard | so I can bring down the instance |
| 02:23.34 | Redguard | alright 1 second |
| 02:23.35 | Lopeppeppy | Um. That doesn't sound like it worked all that well, kd3. *laugh* |
| 02:23.39 | Redguard | :P |
| 02:24.04 | Amarande | hrm. |
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| 02:24.51 | Lopeppeppy | Ruh-oh. |
| 02:24.51 | Amarande | I take it this world event is a friendly indication that it's no longer time to level characters |
| 02:24.51 | Gngsk | Tekkub, thanks clear button works wonders |
| 02:24.51 | kd3 | hm... wonder if there are any plagued crates in epl? |
| 02:24.51 | Amarande | like ... where are we supposed to level? |
| 02:24.51 | kd3 | wherever the plague isn't |
| 02:24.51 | Lopeppeppy | Nah, it's a friendly reminder that the expansion is in less than a month!!!!! |
| 02:24.51 | Amarande | everyone's getting their jollies getting quest npcs killed |
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| 02:25.00 | Amarande | can't quest STV either on half of servers because people are slaughtering BB for the pirate hat |
| 02:25.25 | Lopeppeppy | Give them 24 hours to get over the fun of the plague, Amarande. And skip STV if people are swarming there. |
| 02:25.25 | Redguard | lol |
| 02:25.45 | Amarande | Lopeppeppy: you know what's really annoying on that ground, though |
| 02:25.49 | End | trash is a lot more fun like this |
| 02:25.55 | Amarande | my shaman was in the middle of full-tilt STV questing when the patch hit :S |
| 02:26.41 | Amarande | people are saying there probably will end up being a hotfix though |
| 02:26.49 | Amarande | to at least keep people from griefing the starter zones |
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| 02:27.28 | Amarande | Especially Horde starter zones, because Horde are more restricted on what starter quests they can do |
| 02:27.46 | Amarande | I know Alliance can go all the way back to lv1 quests for another race, but many more Horde starter zone quests are unavailable to non-native races |
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| 02:29.22 | Arrowmaster | yeah for the horde you cant do the lvl 1 quests but you can do like the lvl 5+ ones |
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| 02:30.13 | Amarande | Arrowmaster: which seems really odd to me |
| 02:30.28 | Amarande | because Horde NEED the extra rep (if shooting for exalteds) from the starter quests more than Alliance do |
| 02:30.36 | Amarande | Alliance already start out with 3,000 rep higher than Horde to their factions |
| 02:31.15 | Amarande | hmm |
| 02:31.22 | Amarande | fifteen quests complete, let's see which ones I can turn in :) |
| 02:31.31 | Arrowmaster | im exalted with all but silvermoon now |
| 02:31.33 | Arrowmaster | and at like 14k/21k of that i think |
| 02:31.50 | Arrowmaster | i did eversong and got like 10k silvermoon rep |
| 02:31.59 | Arrowmaster | was kinda nuts |
| 02:33.31 | Codex| | the wow change password page is broken :( |
| 02:33.40 | Codex| | the form doesnt do anything :/ |
| 02:34.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Turn on javascript |
| 02:34.15 | Codex| | its on :P |
| 02:34.38 | Lopeppeppy | Try another browser? |
| 02:35.11 | Codex| | will do |
| 02:35.35 | Amarande | hmm, I predict a lot of late night WoW soon |
| 02:35.49 | Codex| | why do allies start our with more rep :/ |
| 02:35.51 | Codex| | doesnt make sense |
| 02:36.07 | Corrodias | because horde is better. they make up the difference. |
| 02:36.15 | Corrodias | *flame on!* |
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| 02:37.11 | Lopeppeppy | Good night, everyone. Sleep well. |
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| 02:38.04 | Codex| | yea internet explorer changed the pw just fine.. |
| 02:38.12 | Codex| | but my firefox's java is working :/ |
| 02:38.48 | Codex| | anyone who zoned as a zombie able to get in yet? |
| 02:39.32 | WobWork | damnit |
| 02:39.39 | WobWork | Fable 2 is only available on xbox? |
| 02:40.23 | Iriel | I think so, consistent with the original Fable's release |
| 02:40.49 | Tekkub | bamn that fable |
| 02:40.58 | Tekkub | I've not heard too much hype this time around |
| 02:41.11 | WobWork | What I've seen looks like fun |
| 02:41.22 | WobWork | I quite enjoyed Fable, the original |
| 02:41.23 | WobWork | hm |
| 02:41.24 | Tekkub | are they aiming to make the game "seem" better than the last one by reducing the hpye-to-disappointment ratio? |
| 02:41.48 | Tekkub | I liked fable too, but it still sucked because it didn't live up to it's hype |
| 02:41.54 | Tekkub | by like, miles... |
| 02:42.01 | Tekkub | I did enjoy flirting with guys though |
| 02:42.53 | Tekkub | "every action you take effects the world" turned into "every action you take effects the color of your clothes" |
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| 02:43.27 | WobWork | and eyes |
| 02:43.31 | WobWork | It's very Molyneux |
| 02:43.36 | AnduinLothar | wow... where did this queue come from.. |
| 02:43.59 | AnduinLothar | i haven't seen a queue in over a year |
| 02:44.00 | Tekkub | from ARTIE! |
| 02:44.01 | ScytheBlade1 | AnduinLothar: was there last night too |
| 02:44.21 | Tekkub | queues came back with 3.0, and got worse with the new event |
| 02:44.22 | AnduinLothar | is it cause of the ghoulishness? |
| 02:44.29 | Tekkub | da |
| 02:44.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Probably achievements and 3.0 |
| 02:45.13 | AnduinLothar | oo Turn In got updated. yay |
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| 02:46.04 | |pez| | queues? |
| 02:46.12 | |pez| | Ooh, realm login queues? |
| 02:46.14 | |pez| | logon* |
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| 02:50.43 | Codex| | i couldve sworn cenarius was medium pop when i first joined it.. |
| 02:55.05 | kd3 | gah |
| 02:55.14 | ScytheBlade1 | So |
| 02:55.14 | kd3 | can't open any gates while a zombie |
| 02:55.18 | ScytheBlade1 | I just poisoned the Gnome King |
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| 02:57.40 | ScytheBlade1 | AnduinLothar: DIE |
| 02:57.47 | AnduinLothar | rofl |
| 02:57.55 | Kraps | interesting rework of the judgment system |
| 03:02.32 | Xinhuan | http://code.google.com/p/simulationcraft/wiki/SampleOutput |
| 03:02.40 | Xinhuan | those people sure have been at it with theorycrafting ;p |
| 03:04.12 | Codex| | whyd they bring queues back :( |
| 03:04.23 | AbsoRayne | O_o |
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| 03:05.30 | AnduinLothar | mmm 2 ret pally arenas |
| 03:05.32 | Yssaril | Codex|: server queues? |
| 03:06.49 | Amarande | hmm |
| 03:06.56 | Amarande | apparently new characters are still subject to the achievement date bug |
| 03:07.08 | Amarande | I just noticed "25 Fish" has moved to being *newer* than "50 Fish" on my new character |
| 03:07.21 | Amarande | even more weirdly since I haven't even done any fishing today |
| 03:07.55 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, sorry, i hacked your account and leveled up your fishing. |
| 03:08.05 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11676579219&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 03:08.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Win thread is win |
| 03:08.30 | End | Amarande: yeah, me too |
| 03:08.39 | End | I've got 5 or 6 that always reset date |
| 03:09.17 | End | ScytheBlade1: haha |
| 03:09.35 | kd3 | yeah, that thread was pretty funny |
| 03:09.55 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11675539797&pageNo=1&sid=1#6 |
| 03:09.58 | ScytheBlade1 | As is Bornakk's post |
| 03:11.36 | [Liquidor] | Ehm what event am I looking for when a quest is turned in? |
| 03:13.43 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/Quest |
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| 03:16.12 | [Liquidor] | kd3, doesn't help me much |
| 03:16.23 | kd3 | "QUEST_COMPLETE"? |
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| 03:16.33 | [Liquidor] | fires before hitting complete |
| 03:17.11 | [Liquidor] | I need to get the current XP of a player after turning in a quest. |
| 03:18.45 | swall | hello, is there anyway to use "mounted" inside of a script? |
| 03:18.58 | swall | like only run the script if i am mounted? |
| 03:19.06 | cog|away | all of the macro conditions are implemented in Lua so yes ;) |
| 03:19.12 | cog|away | !api IsMounted |
| 03:19.13 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'IsMounted' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/IsMounted |
| 03:19.38 | swall | hmmm |
| 03:19.41 | NightHawkTheSane | even if they werent, you could use SecureCmdOptionParse, or wahtever |
| 03:20.12 | swall | i surrounded my script with if (mounted) ... end and im getting errors |
| 03:20.32 | NightHawkTheSane | you clearly werent paying attention to what cog said. |
| 03:21.21 | [Liquidor] | swall: if IsMounted() |
| 03:21.59 | swall | yea i just got it from that website |
| 03:22.01 | swall | thanks |
| 03:22.09 | swall | is there one for isCasting? |
| 03:22.15 | NightHawkTheSane | read wowwiki. |
| 03:22.27 | cogwheel | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api_categories |
| 03:22.38 | NightHawkTheSane | or wowprogramming |
| 03:24.09 | AnduinLothar | rofl |
| 03:24.15 | AnduinLothar | we just won a 2s match in 7s |
| 03:24.34 | Tekkub | where did the other 5s come from? |
| 03:24.47 | AnduinLothar | 7 seconds :P |
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| 03:26.30 | NightHawkTheSane | you won a 2 second match in 7 seconds? yeesh. talk about fail. |
| 03:26.52 | Tekkub | that's what I'm saying |
| 03:27.24 | AnduinLothar | it's hillarious when we burst a ret pally so fast he cant bubble |
| 03:27.51 | |Jelly| | Can you get into Cath at 22? |
| 03:27.58 | Tem | AnduinLothar, what's your comp? |
| 03:28.03 | AnduinLothar | 2 ret pallies |
| 03:28.36 | Tem | lol |
| 03:30.01 | AnduinLothar | it's so fucking great |
| 03:33.14 | bleeter | oO crossfaction /trade works as a zombie? |
| 03:33.35 | kd3 | yes |
| 03:33.54 | NightHawkTheSane | well, all zombies are friendly to each other |
| 03:34.10 | kd3 | need to go on a baron run that doesn't actually kill the baron |
| 03:34.24 | kd3 | zombies can't open gates on their own... >.> |
| 03:34.25 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 what? |
| 03:34.37 | kd3 | curious if he'll lend me his mount |
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| 03:34.48 | bleeter | kd3: yeah, we were trying to work out how to get there fast then kill him |
| 03:35.08 | Tekkub | friendly... UNTIL THEY EAT YOUR FACE |
| 03:35.14 | bleeter | oO zombies can take alliance portals too (hearing this on vent, unsure of details but I can imagine) |
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| 03:35.21 | Qzot | Heh. I never sold my [Magic Broom] from last year, and now it's become an [Old Magic Broom]. |
| 03:35.25 | bleeter | ie, crossfaction portals |
| 03:39.23 | swall | well |
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| 03:40.08 | swall | i cant find anything like isCasting, guess ill try UnitCastingInfo will that just return the first value as nil if nothing is being cast? |
| 03:41.20 | NightHawkTheSane | is there a min fishing skill you need for the city-specific fish? |
| 03:42.06 | cogwheel | swall: sounds about right |
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| 03:47.59 | Xinhuan | NightHawkTheSane: no |
| 03:48.01 | bleeter | NightHawkTheSane: afaik, yes. skill 1. |
| 03:48.06 | Xinhuan | you just need skill 1, at min lvl 5 |
| 03:48.37 | NightHawkTheSane | okay, so in my lame-brained idea to skillup fishing for once.. i may actually have a chance at that sitting in here in org. :p |
| 03:48.43 | bleeter | yup |
| 03:48.47 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 03:48.54 | Xinhuan | just don't do it in the enemy city |
| 03:48.58 | Xinhuan | heaps of fishers everywhere lol |
| 03:49.11 | NightHawkTheSane | heh, yeah, ill wait till im higher skill for that ;)p |
| 03:49.13 | bleeter | 3-5AM server time for that type of foo is good |
| 03:49.51 | NightHawkTheSane | but i figure by the time i actually get to 375, ill have either killed myself, or the excitement will have died off |
| 03:50.25 | bleeter | when I'm doing BGs, I queue near the city fishing spot and race and catch a few before the queue pops |
| 03:50.40 | bleeter | may not suit you, though, your queues may be fast |
| 03:50.48 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont do bgs. :) |
| 03:51.06 | bleeter | or that hehe :) |
| 03:51.17 | swall | dang |
| 03:51.21 | swall | guys |
| 03:51.25 | swall | i have a question |
| 03:51.36 | NightHawkTheSane | i have an answer. i wonder if they match |
| 03:51.49 | bleeter | 42 |
| 03:52.10 | NightHawkTheSane | 42 is the .* of answers. |
| 03:52.24 | swall | i have this macro which works: /script if not UnitCastingInfo("player") then local a, b, c, d, e = GetCompanionInfo("CRITTER", 13); if not e then CallCompanion("CRITTER", 13); end end |
| 03:52.51 | swall | but if i put a /cast <realy long spell> above it, it doesnt see that im casting |
| 03:52.57 | swall | is that because of lag? |
| 03:53.00 | Shirik | Yes, swall |
| 03:53.00 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 03:53.11 | Xinhuan | a macro executes all at once. |
| 03:53.28 | swall | alright thanks... that was a waste of time lol |
| 03:53.30 | Xinhuan | you don't actually start casting until you tell the server yu want to cast something, and the server replies you started casting |
| 03:54.14 | swall | good to know |
| 03:55.15 | swall | is there a way to tell the macro to not give me a "ability not ready" message for just the next second? |
| 03:56.44 | AnduinLothar | so the only team we've lost to so far is another grp of 2 ret pallies |
| 03:58.59 | Amarande | so basically, if you are not a paladin, you do not play 2's |
| 03:59.23 | Amarande | great, yet another reason my warlock may be shelved at 80 other than to level up tradeskills :| |
| 03:59.39 | Amarande | if 2's are being utterly dominated almost exclusively by retadins |
| 03:59.56 | Amarande | and locks are well known now to be a bad idea in 5's ... so unless 3's are viable, that's that for locks in arena |
| 04:00.25 | Amarande | How *are* locks doing in 3's right now? |
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| 04:02.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: do you think you could be more reactionary? its not quite convincing enough |
| 04:02.18 | AnduinLothar | we're onyl at 1850, so i dunno what the higher ratings look like yet |
| 04:02.43 | AnduinLothar | we did also lose once on our 1st game together, but that doesn't rly count cause i was a dumbass |
| 04:03.01 | AnduinLothar | and then we lost 2 to the failign to join instance |
| 04:03.09 | AnduinLothar | and then 2 to the 2ret team |
| 04:03.23 | AnduinLothar | and then won the other 20+ |
| 04:04.18 | bleeter | only one solution to the pally problem, then... buff doorids |
| 04:05.38 | cogwheel | AnduinLothar: zomg what did u do?!!!11 http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11676469660&sid=1 |
| 04:05.43 | cogwheel | <.< |
| 04:05.57 | Amarande | Night: maybe I'm being too reactionary on the 2's |
| 04:06.09 | Amarande | on the other hand, the warlock problem in 5's apparently has existed for some time now, and shows no sign of abating |
| 04:06.16 | AnduinLothar | he prolly launched wow using the patcher |
| 04:06.30 | Amarande | it's more a matter of game mechanics being against warlocks in larger PvP groups, something which there really isn't something to be done about |
| 04:06.38 | Amarande | although the pushback changes help things a little, since fear is easier to get off now |
| 04:06.38 | AnduinLothar | or didn't close wow to delete the addons |
| 04:07.21 | Amarande | The basic problem with warlocks in 5's is that they are, despite having more HP than most other casters, almost defenseless against an organized assist train (aka zerg) |
| 04:07.24 | |Jelly| | AbsoRayne: PIIIIING |
| 04:07.30 | AbsoRayne | WHAT |
| 04:07.36 | AbsoRayne | IM RIGHT HERE STOP PINGING |
| 04:07.45 | Amarande | In 3's and 2's, you don't have enough offense to mount a sufficient zerg to break the balance |
| 04:08.42 | AnduinLothar | yeah warlocks are hard-ish to kill |
| 04:08.47 | AnduinLothar | and annoying with fear |
| 04:09.12 | AnduinLothar | and moonkins hurt |
| 04:09.19 | AnduinLothar | but die fairly easily |
| 04:09.39 | Amarande | hard to kill in 2's and 3's |
| 04:10.01 | Amarande | in 5's, though ... a team with a warlock and a team with melee dps meet up, you can put money on the latter |
| 04:10.03 | Xinhuan | i heard best combo in 3s atm is ret/ret/rogue |
| 04:10.15 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 04:10.31 | AnduinLothar | our ret,ms,restosham worked pretty well |
| 04:10.49 | Amarande | problem: the warlock has no escapes, and despite having high health, they will be taking a large percentage of physical hits from any competent team at ZERO armor |
| 04:11.04 | Amarande | due to Blizzard being so bloody generous with armor penetration ever since ZA was introduced |
| 04:11.12 | Amarande | and they're going to be even more generous with it in WOTLK |
| 04:11.27 | Xinhuan | why do you think all the tournaments use s2 gear? |
| 04:11.35 | Xinhuan | cos its the most balanced |
| 04:11.42 | Amarande | well, sure, tournaments |
| 04:11.51 | Amarande | however, given that all PvP players will have to play arena at 80 |
| 04:12.13 | Xinhuan | balance won't be the same at 80 comapred to 70 |
| 04:12.22 | Amarande | and who knows what the 80 tournaments will be like, I hardly think Blizzard will expect later tournaments to continue to use 70 gear :) |
| 04:12.38 | Amarande | nor do I expect them to take the time to tune and balance entire sets of gear merely for one event |
| 04:12.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: i dont know, i think that'd be interesting. ;) |
| 04:13.56 | bleeter | if there were pvp scaling gear, used in tournies... i might even consider arena/new pvp foo |
| 04:13.57 | Amarande | anyway, the warlock has little to do but unwillingly allow enemies to wail on him |
| 04:14.20 | Amarande | seeing as so many things Warriors in particular use are Red debuffs that cannot be dispelled |
| 04:14.39 | Amarande | and there's enough armor ignore in the game that for all practical intents and purposes they can consider themselves to have 0 |
| 04:15.16 | Amarande | Meanwhile: Any debuff the lock attempts to apply is most likely something that will be dispelled in the next five seconds. |
| 04:15.20 | Amarande | (And they NERFED UA.) |
| 04:16.02 | Mike-N-Go | I am on Mac OS X Leppard. I wish for spotlight to index my addon files, including .lua, .toc, and .xml. I ran mdimport on the directory that houses my addons, yet spotlight does not seem to have indexed them. Do you know how I can index the metadata of said files? |
| 04:16.12 | bleeter | can't be a zombie in BGs :( |
| 04:16.13 | NightHawkTheSane | "leppard"? |
| 04:16.15 | Amarande | So the lock has no choice but to take it up the bum sideways, and either will die, or the melee dps team will be able to oom the lock team's healer with the pressure |
| 04:16.21 | Amarande | In either case, it is a win for the melee dps team. |
| 04:16.28 | Mike-N-Go | leopard, rather. |
| 04:16.34 | bleeter | MOAR ZOMBEEZ MOAR BRAAAINNNNZZZ |
| 04:16.49 | Amarande | actually, come to think of it |
| 04:17.03 | Amarande | -are- there any caster based teams in 5's that are viable vs. a hard-line melee dps team? |
| 04:17.21 | Amarande | or has Blizzard decided that casters are for PvE and PvP belongs to the melee? |
| 04:17.46 | ccox|work | hmm, did we start some world event with zombies? |
| 04:17.52 | Amarande | ccox: we did |
| 04:18.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Mike-N-Go: don't know what to tell you, it indexes my stuff just fine, and i haven't done anything special. you might check your spotlight pref pane and see if any of your wow folders are excluded |
| 04:18.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: it's not that pvp is melee and pve is casters. (the latter isnt even true), it's that pvp has never been, is not, and will never be balanced as well as pve. |
| 04:18.44 | NightHawkTheSane | wow pve is a poor joke, really. |
| 04:18.46 | NightHawkTheSane | pvp* |
| 04:19.24 | Mike-N-Go | NightHawkTheSane: I ony see an option for "documents" not any special kind. |
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| 04:20.35 | Amarande | Yeah, even Guild Wars had to break down when it came to the whole PvP balance thing |
| 04:21.19 | Amarande | They tried probably the hardest of any game to make both sides balance as best as possible, and recently they had to go to the length of starting to fork skills into PvE and PvP variants in order to keep PvP balanceable without ruining it for the PvE folks |
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| 04:22.35 | Amarande | however, it does seem to be the general agreement that PvP 'balance' changes keep making things favor melee more |
| 04:22.42 | Amarande | as if melee even had problems in the past :) |
| 04:22.51 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* im not going to agree or disagree there. |
| 04:23.06 | NightHawkTheSane | because ultimately it doesn't matter. it's not balanced, so it doesn't matter who's more powerful :p |
| 04:23.10 | WobWork | Amarande: That would be the best way to avoid pve/pvp misbalance |
| 04:23.11 | Amarande | I started in ... 2.2 or so, and melee still was doing things like whirligig that own about 99% of casters |
| 04:23.18 | WobWork | but ultimately the most work |
| 04:23.33 | WobWork | (having pve and pvp variants on spells/skills) |
| 04:23.42 | AnduinLothar | so which is better for pally. 120ap or 60crit rating |
| 04:24.02 | NightHawkTheSane | how much is 60crit, 2%ish? |
| 04:24.10 | WobWork | also the most confusing |
| 04:24.10 | Amarande | whirligig = constantly circle strafing around target caster so they can do almost nothing because target has to be in front of you and it would take GOD to be able to simultaneously rotate camera, cast spell, and keep rotating camera so that the rogue/warrior is STILL in front of you when you finish |
| 04:24.11 | AnduinLothar | 2.72. |
| 04:24.27 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* i'd say AP, but that's just an off-the-cuff guess, so dont lisen to me |
| 04:24.29 | Amarande | no matter -how- well balanced the game was, melee would still have an edge from that alone |
| 04:24.43 | WobWork | WAR at least autorotates you to face your casting target |
| 04:24.55 | Amarande | Wob: yeah, that's been suggested SEVERAL times in the WoW forums |
| 04:25.07 | NightHawkTheSane | im pretty sure it's also been shot down, several time |
| 04:25.07 | Amarande | but other people keep saying "oh that would make it too imba ez QQ" |
| 04:25.07 | NightHawkTheSane | s |
| 04:25.11 | WobWork | I saw this lecture on 'hacking WoW' |
| 04:25.26 | AnduinLothar | ok so which is better 120ap or 44 expertise (for pvp) |
| 04:25.33 | Amarande | I'm not sure why they insist on not changing that |
| 04:25.33 | WobWork | where the guy had a 'bot' that consistantly placed themself -behind- a specified target |
| 04:25.49 | Amarande | especially if WAR can get away with it |
| 04:25.54 | WobWork | by manipulating how it faced and stepping back |
| 04:25.55 | AnduinLothar | 44 exp rating == 11 exp |
| 04:25.59 | Amarande | and it would quash the whirligig strategy entirely ... |
| 04:26.10 | Amarande | on the other hand, it would turn rogues into caster meat I suppose |
| 04:26.15 | WobWork | yeah |
| 04:26.17 | AnduinLothar | reduced dodged or parried by about 3% |
| 04:26.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: 2 sides to every coin. :p |
| 04:26.27 | Amarande | which really is the crux of the whole problem :) |
| 04:26.30 | WobWork | it works in WAR because pvp is hardly ever one on one |
| 04:26.33 | Amarande | Class X is meat for Class Y. |
| 04:26.42 | Amarande | You fix this, and next thing Class Y is meat for class Z. |
| 04:26.51 | WobWork | that's how it'll always work |
| 04:27.00 | Amarande | Fix that, and class Z is meat for class X, who then becomes meat for class Y |
| 04:27.11 | WobWork | if you want all classes to fare the same against every other class there's only one solution |
| 04:27.14 | Amarande | hell, even Guild Wars is a giant game of rock paper scissors in the final analysis |
| 04:27.15 | WobWork | Make them all the same class |
| 04:27.19 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: indeed. |
| 04:27.43 | NightHawkTheSane | if there's anything history has taught us it's that separate but equal doesn't work. |
| 04:27.50 | NightHawkTheSane | (also, never engage in a land war in asia..) |
| 04:27.59 | WobWork | oh but who needs history? |
| 04:28.06 | WobWork | (certainly not mccain/palin =P) |
| 04:28.16 | NightHawkTheSane | hah |
| 04:28.39 | WobWork | You know, these parties need a catchy ship name |
| 04:28.54 | NightHawkTheSane | you know, for an aussie, you seem pretty interested in US politics. :p |
| 04:29.14 | WobWork | NightHawkTheSane: More like, I'm terrified that Palin will become president |
| 04:29.20 | Amarande | heh, making all the classes the same would not do |
| 04:29.24 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, you're not the only one. :P |
| 04:29.42 | WobWork | I can only hope that the majority of the US agrees with me |
| 04:29.51 | WobWork | but seeing some of the rallies and the like... well.. it worries me |
| 04:30.00 | WobWork | cause even if Obama wins, it won't be a very... safe... victory |
| 04:30.19 | Amarande | wasn't there QQ all over the place that 3.0's attempts to make it easier to balance class selection for a raid was going to erode differences between classes? |
| 04:30.24 | WobWork | Hm. McPalin? Obiden? |
| 04:30.27 | NightHawkTheSane | you should look at fivethirtyeight.com, it may be slightly reassuring |
| 04:30.37 | WobWork | PalCain? Bidama? |
| 04:30.41 | Amarande | well, FWIW, I'm voting for McCain/Palin |
| 04:30.54 | Amarande | which will be absolutely irrelevant, really |
| 04:30.56 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: that's a shame. |
| 04:30.58 | Amarande | because Connecticut always goes Democrat anyway :P |
| 04:31.03 | Mike-N-Go | NightHawkTheSane: I think I'll take a gander at http://guides.macrumors.com/Adding_filetypes_to_Spotlight. |
| 04:31.03 | WobWork | Moo? |
| 04:31.12 | ScytheBlade1 | AnduinLothar: zombie raid on SW? |
| 04:31.19 | ScytheBlade1 | AnduinLothar: ie, as a zombie, not killing zombies :P |
| 04:31.21 | Amarande | I live in a Republican leaning town in a Democratic state. Our votes don't matter LOL |
| 04:31.30 | WobWork | Amarande: I say we all become Shaman |
| 04:31.31 | AnduinLothar | i like killing zombies |
| 04:31.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Want to be one?! |
| 04:31.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: for which i thank whatever gods exist. :) |
| 04:31.43 | WobWork | AnduinLothar: That's only cause of holy damage =P |
| 04:31.59 | Corrodias | Amarande: do not trust polls |
| 04:32.03 | AnduinLothar | i'm a paladin, it's what i do |
| 04:32.51 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: the l75 guards really make it obnoxious to zombify cities :( |
| 04:33.03 | ScytheBlade1 | NightHawkTheSane: well we're up to... 22 people |
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| 04:33.09 | Amarande | Night: ehh, they're weaker than they seem |
| 04:33.11 | Corrodias | "a phrase attributed to Benjamin Disraeli and popularised in the United States by Mark Twain: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."" |
| 04:33.16 | ScytheBlade1 | In any case, 22 zombies in the SW mage area is kinda win |
| 04:33.18 | ScytheBlade1 | No guards there |
| 04:33.25 | AbsoRayne | blah |
| 04:33.27 | Amarande | at least, my warlock took a few hits in SW when I was going to Stockades |
| 04:33.47 | WobWork | hehe I remember the Naxx events |
| 04:33.47 | WobWork | I was a puny level 12 mage |
| 04:33.49 | NightHawkTheSane | zombies are pretty weak, though |
| 04:33.51 | AbsoRayne | Wheres my updated ClassTimer :( |
| 04:33.54 | WobWork | and I ended up with that spelldamage potion |
| 04:33.55 | WobWork | That I couldn't use til 55 |
| 04:34.12 | WobWork | mostly due to fireball spam that probably hit it for about 1 damage =P |
| 04:34.21 | WobWork | in the whole encounter =P |
| 04:35.12 | NightHawkTheSane | i wonder if i can write a fishing bot >.> |
| 04:35.22 | WobWork | screen scraping? |
| 04:35.29 | WobWork | pixel scanning! |
| 04:35.33 | NightHawkTheSane | probably. im mostly too lazy though |
| 04:35.42 | WobWork | yes |
| 04:35.43 | NightHawkTheSane | gives me a good opportunity to FINALLY watch bsg, though |
| 04:35.44 | WobWork | I figured that much |
| 04:36.02 | WobWork | I can't seem to get into tv series |
| 04:36.02 | WobWork | I watch one episode |
| 04:36.09 | WobWork | think "Hm, that's kinda cool" |
| 04:36.12 | WobWork | but then, can't be bothered watching any more |
| 04:36.17 | WobWork | I'd rather read a book =\ |
| 04:36.27 | NightHawkTheSane | heh, that's not a terrible thing |
| 04:36.48 | WobWork | yeah, I guess. Means I don't have to spend money on buying cable TV =) |
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| 04:37.00 | NightHawkTheSane | just buying books. :P |
| 04:37.07 | WobWork | ebook ftw =P |
| 04:37.15 | NightHawkTheSane | touché |
| 04:37.22 | WobWork | or rather, #bookz on Undernet ftw =) |
| 04:37.27 | NightHawkTheSane | haha |
| 04:37.29 | NightHawkTheSane | well, yes |
| 04:37.48 | WobWork | well, I -do- buy from the authors I like |
| 04:37.56 | WobWork | I just get electronic copies afterwards |
| 04:38.03 | WobWork | cause they're easier to lug around |
| 04:38.20 | NightHawkTheSane | true |
| 04:38.25 | NightHawkTheSane | i find them a bit harder to read, though. |
| 04:38.35 | WobWork | yeah |
| 04:38.52 | WobWork | PS, if you haven't read Patrick Rothfuss' In the Name of the Wind, I recommend it |
| 04:39.13 | NightHawkTheSane | I have, last year. :p |
| 04:39.26 | WobWork | yeah =) |
| 04:39.40 | WobWork | I took it on a trip up to Thailand |
| 04:39.49 | WobWork | (then finished it on the plane trip up...) |
| 04:39.55 | NightHawkTheSane | likewise, if you haven't read Neil Gaiman's The Graveyard book yet, that's very good as well |
| 04:40.13 | WobWork | The Graveyard, eh? |
| 04:40.14 | WobWork | Hm, I've not seen that one |
| 04:40.23 | NightHawkTheSane | 'The Graveyard Book' |
| 04:40.36 | NightHawkTheSane | it's fairly new, only came out.. a few weeks ago? |
| 04:40.52 | WobWork | ah, probably why =) |
| 04:41.15 | WobWork | I should probably put Neil on my rss feed |
| 04:41.20 | NightHawkTheSane | okay, im going to get to 150 fishing, and stop for tonight |
| 04:41.27 | NightHawkTheSane | you should |
| 04:41.41 | WobWork | "After finishing The Graveyard Book, I had only one thought -- I hope thereâs more. I want to see more of the adventures of Nobody Owens, and there is no higher praise for a book." -- Laurell K. Hamilton |
| 04:41.44 | WobWork | rofl |
| 04:41.52 | WobWork | That coming from Hamilton =P |
| 04:42.06 | WobWork | "No higher praise" =P |
| 04:44.08 | Amarande | Wob, are you implying something negative about Laurell K. Hamilton? |
| 04:49.26 | AnduinLothar | woot. i got turned into a diablo |
| 04:50.15 | Tekkub | you know how your brain can fil in the rest of the word if you see just the first and last letters correctly.... |
| 04:50.21 | Tekkub | I didn't read "diablo" :) |
| 04:51.19 | NightHawkTheSane | hahah |
| 04:51.36 | NightHawkTheSane | you only wish, im sure tek |
| 04:52.14 | Tekkub | hrm... time to rip apart beancounter and make my own price history addon |
| 04:52.40 | Amarande | tekkub: are auctioneer tooltips still b0rked? |
| 04:52.46 | Shirik | uh... no? |
| 04:52.52 | Tekkub | how the hell would I know? |
| 04:52.52 | Shirik | They haven't been borked unless you haven't updated |
| 04:52.52 | WobWork | Amarande: yes? =) |
| 04:53.13 | Shirik | ~lart WobWork |
| 04:53.13 | purl | beats the living hamstercrap out of WobWork |
| 04:53.17 | Shirik | stop spreading misinformation |
| 04:53.19 | WobWork | (in that, yes, I am implying something negative about Hamilton) |
| 04:53.35 | WobWork | ~lart Shirik |
| 04:53.35 | purl | puts Shirik through a wood chipper |
| 04:53.40 | Tekkub | I should name my NutCounter just cause |
| 04:56.05 | Mike-N-Go | NightHawkTheSane: Do you know what it is called when, on Mac OS X, when one presses space on a file in the finder? Instant view? |
| 04:56.20 | NightHawkTheSane | quickview |
| 04:56.40 | Amarande | Wob: what's to say negative about Hamilton? |
| 04:57.09 | Amarande | and btw ... I'm going to say two letters back to you if you try to complain about 'oversexualized dark fantasy fiction' |
| 04:57.14 | Amarande | I believe you know them well |
| 04:57.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: .. "you're right" is more than two letters. |
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| 04:58.38 | Amarande | Night: "QQ" is two letters |
| 04:59.15 | Amarande | some of us LIKE our heavily sexualized dark fantasy fiction |
| 04:59.32 | Amarande | remember, you are talking to someone who regards Jacqueline Carey's Kushiel as the pinnacle of fiction writing :) |
| 05:01.02 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the black jewels trilogy, which is basically half romance novel half fantasy novel. But in general, most novels that stray too far into romance novel territory tend to get the "trashy" part of it along with :p |
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| 05:05.24 | Shirik | fast fourier transform? |
| 05:05.30 | Amarande | Night: do you get vaguely reminded of Briarwood now every time you see Briarthorn too? |
| 05:05.30 | Shirik | I didn't realize you could make a game out of it |
| 05:05.36 | Amarande | I do, and it makes that herb feel creepy heh |
| 05:05.45 | Shirik | Do you try to analyze sine waves in your head and see if you can guess the peak frequency? |
| 05:06.04 | Amarande | I am 100.5% certain that that is the single most evil place ever written about in the whole of fantasy literature |
| 05:08.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: final fantasy tactics >.> |
| 05:08.40 | NightHawkTheSane | ~lart shirik |
| 05:08.40 | purl | slaps shirik upside the head with a wet fish |
| 05:08.48 | Shirik | A lot of what I do is signal processing |
| 05:08.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: no... i don't >.> |
| 05:08.53 | Shirik | Let's see what google says |
| 05:08.57 | Shirik | ~wtf fft |
| 05:09.01 | Shirik | !g FFT |
| 05:09.02 | batbot | Shirik: Fast Fourier transform - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_Fourier_transform> |
| 05:09.04 | Shirik | oh look |
| 05:09.14 | Shirik | ~fft |
| 05:09.15 | purl | it has been said that fft is Fast Fourier Transform |
| 05:09.17 | Amarande | I've got Disgaea, Makai Kingdom, La Pucelle: Tactics, Phantom Brave, Rhapsody, Wild Arms: XF, and I don't have FFT. |
| 05:09.22 | Shirik | Seems like everyone thinks it's fast fourier transform :D |
| 05:09.33 | Shirik | ~dtft |
| 05:09.38 | Shirik | !g DTFT |
| 05:09.39 | batbot | Shirik: Discrete-time Fourier transform - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrete-time_Fourier_transform> |
| 05:09.46 | Shirik | oh I have a new love for wikipedia |
| 05:09.49 | Shirik | it knows all my acronyms |
| 05:10.06 | Shirik | anyway, night |
| 05:10.50 | Amarande | Night: generally speaking though, most novels are in the final analysis trash, whatever their genre |
| 05:11.29 | Amarande | It is always good to be supportive of people seeking to try their way in the authorship field. On the other hand, it is not necessarily the case that one should feel too pressured to actually read said works when finished. |
| 05:11.56 | Amarande | Anyway I'm not sure where Black Jewels fits in my list of good books, other than that it's surely somewhere in my top ten series |
| 05:12.07 | Amarande | but not in the top two ... for that #1 is Kushiel and #2 is Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time |
| 05:15.15 | bleeter | kd3: The Alliance and Horde have no hope! http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11693921093&sid=1 |
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| 05:18.25 | End | haha |
| 05:18.29 | AnduinLothar | how much hit rating do i need for pvp 2h? 5%? |
| 05:18.35 | End | "The Bronze Dragon Flight is gunna be really, really mad. I'm telling. " |
| 05:18.50 | WobWork | Amarande: |
| 05:19.03 | WobWork | Amarande: I quite enjoyed Anita Blake for the first.. 4 books |
| 05:19.17 | WobWork | Until it became all about the clown car that is Anita's bed |
| 05:19.46 | AbsoRayne | |Jelly|: PIIIINNGGGGGG |
| 05:20.53 | WobWork | also, in regards to the way women are portrayed in Wheel of Time? |
| 05:22.17 | WobWork | "Boy I wish I were <alternate male character>, he knows all about women!" |
| 05:23.23 | WobWork | I lost interest in and about Path of Daggers |
| 05:23.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | oy |
| 05:24.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i missed you already said that |
| 05:24.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | :( |
| 05:24.04 | WobWork | hehe |
| 05:24.23 | End | If you got to crossroads of...whatever...now that was a boring book |
| 05:24.33 | End | it was like the second or third to last book |
| 05:24.49 | Mike-N-Go | NightHawkTheSane: I found I need to add file type "dyn.ah62d4rv4ge8027pb" to my spotlight thing. |
| 05:25.19 | Mike-N-Go | mdimport -n -d1somefile.lua" |
| 05:25.22 | Mike-N-Go | I did |
| 05:27.15 | Amarande | Crossroads of Twilight ... |
| 05:27.18 | Amarande | yeah, that one was kinda meh |
| 05:27.28 | Amarande | to the point that Borders can't even sell its back stock of them for $2, in HARDCOVER |
| 05:27.39 | End | lol |
| 05:27.40 | WobWork | That's kinda terrible =) |
| 05:27.49 | End | it was a kinda terrible book :P |
| 05:28.01 | WobWork | hm |
| 05:28.09 | WobWork | Enjoy a Deconstructed Sachertorte, Austria's legendary bitter sweet chocolate tart and your choice of a glass of Brown Brothers dessert wine or Hennessy Cognac |
| 05:28.38 | WobWork | Berry Delights - Spoil yourself with a heavenly combination of strawberry and rhubarb mascarpone dacquoise with cream fraiche ice-cream accompanied by licorice infused strawberries, complemented with Brown Brothers Cienna Dessert wine. |
| 05:28.55 | Amarande | ehh, not so terrible a book as that not really much -happens- during it to my recollection other than Elayne's belly getting big. :P LOL |
| 05:29.12 | WobWork | and that takes 34 chapters, I bet |
| 05:29.13 | Amarande | You know how some books have plot but don't go to the trouble to flesh out details of everything? |
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| 05:29.30 | Amarande | WoT 10 fleshes out the details of everything, but has hardly much in the way of plot progress |
| 05:29.35 | WobWork | Jordon does not suffer from that =) |
| 05:29.47 | Amarande | fortunately, I tend to like details |
| 05:30.18 | End | unfortunately I tend to gloss over details if there's not much plot development |
| 05:30.24 | Amarande | and also fortunately, I'm not a big fan of Elayne |
| 05:30.29 | Amarande | never have been, never will be :P |
| 05:30.32 | End | so I pretty much glossed over that entire book |
| 05:30.33 | WobWork | I was hoping he'd finish it in 12 books |
| 05:30.40 | WobWork | That would have made nice loreish sense |
| 05:31.10 | Amarande | If I had to pick a favorite female character from WoT ... in the first five books it would be Moiraine |
| 05:31.10 | WobWork | as I vaugely recall some cycle of 12s in there |
| 05:31.19 | Amarande | I also seem to have some sort of liking for Alviarin for some reason :S |
| 05:31.21 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont care how many books it takes, i just wanted him to finish it before he died. |
| 05:31.38 | WobWork | well, Moiraine was the least self absorbed |
| 05:32.16 | Amarande | Night: At least Brandon Sanderson is a super win and awesome guy |
| 05:32.24 | NightHawkTheSane | so i hear. |
| 05:32.38 | Amarande | he is. I met him at Dragon Con this year |
| 05:32.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Also, I like a lot of the characters in wot, even the typically unlikable ones. |
| 05:33.24 | NightHawkTheSane | The iconic behavioral/conversational ticks annoy me, but there's a fair bit of contrast between characters. |
| 05:33.35 | WobWork | I, unfortunately have equated 'Perrin' with a person I know in RL with a surname of 'Percy' |
| 05:33.42 | WobWork | So I have a permanent mental picture |
| 05:33.47 | WobWork | and it's not a flatterng one |
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| 05:34.34 | WobWork | especially since he's physically the opposite of how Perrin is supposed to be |
| 05:34.57 | Amarande | Actually, I guess liking Alviarin is not surprising for me. |
| 05:35.11 | WobWork | cause she's cunning and sneaksie? |
| 05:35.30 | Amarande | something like that :) |
| 05:35.44 | Amarande | and you can probably guess who my favorite from the Kushiel series is, too |
| 05:36.58 | Amarande | Ah, Melisande ... *dreamy sigh* |
| 05:38.34 | Mike-N-Go | NightHawkTheSane: Toc have the file type 'dyn.ah62d4rv4ge81k55d' |
| 05:39.04 | AnduinLothar | LOL, goign around cleansing people's zombie debuffs is so entertaining |
| 05:39.32 | Amarande | I've somehow managed to avoid the whole zombie hoo-hah so far |
| 05:39.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Mike-N-Go: as i said, my files are already indexed just fine by spotlight. :p |
| 05:40.03 | Amarande | it hardly got to Eversong at all for a while, and when it did, I was busy with the northeastern part with the mana serpents and ether ghosts, and then I was in the troll area |
| 05:40.09 | Amarande | and by the time I got back to town it had died down |
| 05:40.27 | Mike-N-Go | I gained zombi debuff when I was in the air, dismounted, fell to my death of 11459 hp. |
| 05:41.50 | AnduinLothar | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41589 > http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34472 ?? |
| 05:41.53 | AnduinLothar | for arena |
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| 05:42.28 | Antiarc | So. Glyph of Blurred Speed lets you run cross water while mounted. |
| 05:42.47 | Mike-N-Go | NightHawkTheSane: Lucky you. |
| 05:42.48 | NightHawkTheSane | while mounted? |
| 05:42.59 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 sounds like a bug to me.. |
| 05:43.16 | Antiarc | yeah, while mounted |
| 05:43.16 | Mike-N-Go | Death knights can do that with their ability in the beta. |
| 05:43.23 | Antiarc | I sprint, mount, and can run across water |
| 05:43.24 | Mike-N-Go | Ice something |
| 05:43.44 | End | Path of Frost or something like that? |
| 05:43.51 | NightHawkTheSane | ahh. heh. so kinda working as intended, but probably not. |
| 05:43.56 | NightHawkTheSane | interesting, though |
| 05:43.57 | End | I think it had Path in the name |
| 05:44.05 | NightHawkTheSane | End: yes, it's path of frost. |
| 05:44.07 | End | it was funny when all of dalaran was getting the DK water walking... |
| 05:47.03 | Amarande | people are already selling DK glyphs on the AH |
| 05:48.06 | NightHawkTheSane | sure, why not |
| 05:48.13 | End | wow |
| 05:48.28 | End | DK glyphs are cheap |
| 05:48.32 | AnduinLothar | they've been putting them up anyway, dunno if they sell |
| 05:48.57 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* i put up some raise dead glyphs, sold a couple for ~80g each |
| 05:49.09 | AnduinLothar | O.o |
| 05:49.09 | End | lol glyph of searing pain is 35 silver |
| 05:49.42 | End | is that a minor? |
| 05:50.36 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 05:50.54 | End | none of those on the AH here :P |
| 05:52.30 | WobWork | what's the zombie debuff do? |
| 05:53.00 | End | it's mostly a disease thing |
| 05:53.23 | End | you turn into a zombie :P |
| 05:53.28 | End | and you can spread it :P |
| 05:54.10 | WobWork | didn't they learn from the red plague? =P |
| 05:55.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh man |
| 05:55.32 | ScytheBlade1 | I have 55 screenshots taken |
| 05:55.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Of a -large- zombie raid |
| 05:55.52 | ScytheBlade1 | We were killing 75 guards in about 20 seconds each |
| 05:55.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Level 70s in less than 7 |
| 05:59.09 | AnduinLothar | red plague was an accident. |
| 05:59.16 | AnduinLothar | this was on purpose |
| 06:00.23 | Codex| | red plague? |
| 06:01.05 | WobWork | hm, patch downloaded |
| 06:01.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Codex|: http://wowaids.ytmnd.com/ |
| 06:01.51 | Codex| | from hakkar? |
| 06:01.58 | Yssaril | Codex|: yar |
| 06:02.14 | Yssaril | back in the day you could hearth out keep the debuff and kill people :) |
| 06:02.18 | WobWork | hehe, is there -anything- ytmnd can't educate on? |
| 06:02.56 | AnduinLothar | proper use of condoms? |
| 06:04.34 | WobWork | http://aidsisnojoke.ytmnd.com/ |
| 06:04.57 | AnduinLothar | close |
| 06:05.36 | AnduinLothar | but no |
| 06:06.08 | WobWork | http://condomsinbad.ytmnd.com/ |
| 06:06.13 | Mike-N-Go | Or5 put it into a pet |
| 06:07.09 | AnduinLothar | he doesn't exaclty tell you HOW to use them... |
| 06:07.27 | AnduinLothar | but closer |
| 06:07.38 | WobWork | pft |
| 06:07.42 | WobWork | search for it yourself |
| 06:07.54 | WobWork | ytmnd can educate you on proper condom usage |
| 06:07.56 | AnduinLothar | it's much more fun making you do it |
| 06:07.57 | WobWork | you just have to find it =P |
| 06:08.02 | WobWork | nah, I gotta go |
| 06:08.07 | WobWork | It's NOODLE MARKET time |
| 06:08.13 | WobWork | followed by SUGAR HIT |
| 06:08.15 | AnduinLothar | that's what she said |
| 06:08.38 | WobWork | om nomnomnom |
| 06:08.49 | WobWork | http://gfm.smh.com.au |
| 06:09.06 | [SW]Dodge | someone knows who to contact for sending info about the world event? :D |
| 06:09.35 | [SW]Dodge | @mmochamp^^ |
| 06:09.36 | [SW]Dodge | :P |
| 06:09.53 | [SW]Dodge | they miss a rly nice info^^ |
| 06:10.07 | Arrowmaster | ScytheBlade1: our raid was killed by the hotfix |
| 06:10.24 | AnduinLothar | lol what hotfix? |
| 06:10.25 | [SW]Dodge | its possible to trade and talk as zombie with the other faction ally/horde |
| 06:10.39 | Arrowmaster | it was a no server restart hotfix |
| 06:10.46 | Arrowmaster | they just somehow fixed it |
| 06:10.53 | AnduinLothar | to fix the trding? |
| 06:10.56 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 06:11.12 | Arrowmaster | the weapon swaping to go back to 100% hp |
| 06:11.19 | AnduinLothar | oh lol |
| 06:11.20 | Arrowmaster | even has a /use 0 1 macro |
| 06:11.28 | Arrowmaster | had |
| 06:11.45 | Gngsk | feels like test server |
| 06:11.48 | Arrowmaster | was an epic goldshire raid |
| 06:12.16 | Mike-N-Go | NightHawkTheSane: I got my spotlight to index my .lua files, yay. |
| 06:16.34 | Bibi | [SW]Dodge : talk to Bibi |
| 06:16.36 | Bibi | he's nice |
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| 06:17.02 | Bibi | (and he doesn't really miss any info, he just felt asleep 6 hours ago) |
| 06:19.42 | Mike-N-Go | NightHawkTheSane: Does your quickview show .lua files? |
| 06:20.36 | NightHawkTheSane | it does not, as i have no .lua quickview plugin |
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| 06:21.50 | Mike-N-Go | After I open and save my .lua files in Text Wrangler, they then work with quick view. |
| 06:23.09 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont really use quick view all that often |
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| 06:25.11 | AnduinLothar | "A new research study out of the US reveals that gamers are more likely to socialize and generally earn more money (read: have more epics) than nongamers. They also go out on more dates." |
| 06:26.45 | Antiarc | http://www.gamevee.com/viewVideo/World_of_Warcraft/PC/Glyph_of_Blurred_Bear/1071116 |
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| 06:30.03 | Bibi | AnduinLothar : this is where interpretation is important. |
| 06:30.20 | Bibi | [...] gamers [...] go out on more dates. |
| 06:30.44 | Bibi | [...] more money [...] more dates |
| 06:30.46 | Bibi | pick one. |
| 06:31.28 | AnduinLothar | more of a cause and effect relationship i would imagine |
| 06:31.33 | AnduinLothar | which comes first |
| 06:31.46 | AnduinLothar | or are they both product of some other quality |
| 06:32.41 | AnduinLothar | better yet: how di they survey the people |
| 06:33.01 | AnduinLothar | or select the people to be survey'd rather |
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| 06:38.51 | NightHawkTheSane | this is kind of amusing: http://www.cnnbcvideo.com/index.html?r=31274&id=14592-19055-paFQQ.x&nid=FXo7mZMFQiE8d5xQG9rAVjU2NjkwNQ-- |
| 06:41.54 | Codex| | is that true? |
| 06:42.02 | Codex| | im canadian, i dont know.. |
| 06:42.39 | Codex| | lol nvmd that i asked that |
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| 06:46.40 | Xuerian | Antiarc: Lol |
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| 07:03.08 | Thunder_Child | ~shout |
| 07:03.09 | purl | ACTION screams NOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooOOOOoooooOOOOooo!!!1!!11!!! |
| 07:03.23 | Thunder_Child | ~splay |
| 07:03.24 | purl | MPEG-1/2 layer 1,2,3 and wave file player.. URL: http://synergy.kaist.ac.kr/~jwj/ |
| 07:07.33 | Thunder_Child | ~splat |
| 07:07.33 | purl | Stampede Package Listing and Administration Tool. URL: http://outlyer.org/stampede/splat.html |
| 07:07.45 | Thunder_Child | ~spit |
| 07:07.50 | Thunder_Child | ~spit Thunder_Child |
| 07:07.50 | purl | ACTION hurls a huge goober onto Thunder_Child. |
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| 07:26.31 | |stefan_| | morning =) |
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| 07:51.14 | Tekkub | fuck me |
| 07:51.22 | Tekkub | so I just got the helm from a treat bag |
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| 07:51.31 | Tekkub | and my leveling partner gets the fucking pet |
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| 08:01.55 | Tekkub | and then a pumpkin bag drops, I win it, and he bitches |
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| 08:02.52 | leethal | is it true that cross faction zombies can trade with eachother |
| 08:04.02 | NightHawkTheSane | supposedly they hotfixed that |
| 08:04.13 | NightHawkTheSane | or maybe that was something else. i forget. |
| 08:04.27 | leethal | would be a pro way to get some kittens for a hordie =P |
| 08:04.31 | Tekkub | GNERDS are 14 day cooldown now |
| 08:04.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub: all candy pot candy is i believe |
| 08:04.50 | NightHawkTheSane | assuming by cooldown you mean duration |
| 08:04.50 | Industrial | cross faction zombies? o_O |
| 08:05.05 | Tekkub | yea |
| 08:05.10 | Tekkub | it was 1day before |
| 08:05.29 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 08:05.46 | NightHawkTheSane | the buffs are so minor i didnt mind it being 1 day honestly |
| 08:06.01 | NightHawkTheSane | and its not like it was hard to just hop in an AV to get the achievement |
| 08:06.50 | Xuerian | Haha, direct cross-faction trading? Awesome. |
| 08:07.01 | Tekkub | yea the problem was that they stack to 200 and don't refresh when you get new ones, so you were stuck with the initial expiration |
| 08:07.13 | Tekkub | ex-roomie did em all in one day and lost the candy |
| 08:07.18 | Xuerian | You could always offer 5g for 50 of them |
| 08:07.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub: yeah, as did i |
| 08:07.57 | Xuerian | I trick-or-treated them all for the achievement, forgot to do it, then just asked in trade... people couldn't get rid of them fast enough. |
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| 08:16.03 | Tekkub | CONSUMER ALERT CONSUMER ALERT CONSUMER ALERT: at this time of year, unscrupulous retailers can be found making promises of notebooks for unnaturally low prices â sometimes as low as nine cents. When the customer gets his or her ânotebookâ home, they discover that itâs merely a bunch of lined paper held together with a wire. |
| 08:16.05 | Tekkub | I love woot |
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| 08:19.29 | Wraanger | heyaz |
| 08:22.12 | Punkie | yo |
| 08:26.54 | Industrial | Anyone got a resouce with good quality anime wallpapers? There's too many sites that have overlapping stuff and all bad quality and low resolution and not all that much anyway. I bet it would be the same crap if I'd download a megapack torrent... |
| 08:27.59 | Punkie | just find some high res anime pictures and make your own, i've never found a decent website with good anime wallpapers either |
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| 08:31.50 | Wraanger | how's going, Punkie ? +) |
| 08:32.22 | Punkie | Hey Wraanger! I'm good, not too much wow lately for me though ;) |
| 08:42.21 | Wraanger | same here ... was like ...two weeks offline |
| 08:42.52 | Wraanger | came online yesterday ... and found out that my guild killed M'uru while I was offline (( |
| 08:54.36 | |stefan_| | ehm. dependencies in toc. before 3.0.2 i could enter blizzard ui stuff there like socketingui etc. but now i can't. anyone know anything about this ? |
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| 09:24.01 | |pez| | Anyone here got some lighthttpd experience? |
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| 09:31.19 | Punkie | Wraanger: I mean like for the past 6+ months ;) |
| 09:32.45 | |stefan_| | |pez| like ? |
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| 10:03.57 | leethal | Industrial: I guess deviantart has plenty |
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| 10:09.09 | |pez| | |stefan_|; Oh hi! XD |
| 10:09.25 | |pez| | I'm wanting to make all the vhosts on my new linode ready and such, but I don |
| 10:09.40 | |pez| | t want to transfer the domains before UI've moved the sites and stuff. |
| 10:10.01 | |pez| | So I was wondering how I could access the sites, without the domains. |
| 10:15.04 | |stefan_| | easiet way ? symlinks =) |
| 10:15.09 | |stefan_| | easiest =) |
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| 10:17.59 | Castigo | hi guys |
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| 10:19.24 | Castigo | is anyone here practice with ace3 config? |
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| 11:59.59 | Pheredhel | anybody knows a complete list of spellids ? |
| 12:01.13 | Nom- | !@#$! |
| 12:01.34 | Nom- | Was trying to resolve a problem with my GIT repository and inadvertently deleted about 8 hours worth of work |
| 12:01.38 | Nom- | *sigh* |
| 12:02.39 | Kalroth | not so nomnomnom |
| 12:02.53 | [melin2] | Nom- > you mean your life hates you? :D |
| 12:03.38 | Pheredhel | omg... well normally this is the point where you'd say "use a vcs" but this way... damn |
| 12:03.54 | haste | how did you manage to do that? |
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| 12:17.48 | Nom- | well my git repo is failing to pull in svn for some reason |
| 12:17.58 | Nom- | so i decided to re-copy it from a mate |
| 12:18.11 | Nom- | did rm -rf before i remembered my changes hadn't been pushed to svn yet |
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| 12:38.46 | leethal | to the scandinavian people around: http://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/signert/article2728293.ece |
| 12:39.06 | leethal | guess you could sort of get what it says via google translate or smt. if you're not scandinavian |
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| 12:39.53 | leethal | question asked: why does spending all your youth on chess make you skilled, and spending all your youth on wow make you an addict? |
| 12:40.10 | Nom- | which would be... all of us? |
| 12:40.42 | Nom- | Because chess is boring, and WoW is fun. |
| 12:40.58 | Nom- | If you persist at something boring, you're dedicated and become skilled at it. |
| 12:41.08 | Drakhaon | hmm.. how do I use getGlobal to call for an item? |
| 12:41.24 | krka | interesting read |
| 12:42.11 | krka | one could argue that for most people, wow isn't as developing as something like playing chess would be |
| 12:42.47 | Drakhaon | I have 4 buttons, named like Button0 - Button3, how do I perform say Hide() on them within a for end loop? |
| 12:43.13 | krka | you rewrite your code to put the buttons in a table |
| 12:43.36 | Drakhaon | can also be 300 buttons, I just wanna perform the same action on all of them without having to type one line of code for each button |
| 12:44.37 | leethal | Drakhaon: tables. |
| 12:44.49 | leethal | for k, v in pairs(theTable) etc. |
| 12:44.56 | Drakhaon | ah ok |
| 12:45.53 | leethal | but hey, blizz does it, too |
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| 12:46.01 | leethal | SLASH_ADDONNAME1 etc. |
| 12:49.03 | Drakhaon | and gah! how do I remove the "Min" "Max" labels from the slider :P |
| 12:54.07 | Drakhaon | leethal > what event should I use for the slider to recognize a change in it? |
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| 13:06.25 | Drakhaon | I have a textfield created with local myText = myFrame:CreateFontString(yada yada |
| 13:06.38 | Drakhaon | how do I settext on it later on, from another function? |
| 13:07.47 | Kaso| | myText:SetText() ? |
| 13:11.05 | Kaso| | I presume you mean how do you get reference to it from another function |
| 13:11.20 | Kaso| | you need to learn about scoping variables i think |
| 13:11.29 | Kaso| | http://www.wowwiki.com/Lua_variable_scoping |
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| 13:13.56 | [melin2] | I hate this wireless connection |
| 13:15.32 | Drakhaon2 | so.. anyone know? (repeating:) I have a textfield created with local myText = myFrame:CreateFontString(yada yada - how do I settext on it later on, from another function? |
| 13:15.53 | Kaso| | Drakhaon2, i responded to that a moment ago |
| 13:16.00 | Kaso| | <Kaso|> myText:SetText() ? |
| 13:16.00 | Kaso| | <Kaso|> I presume you mean how do you get reference to it from another function |
| 13:16.00 | Kaso| | <Kaso|> you need to learn about scoping variables i think |
| 13:16.00 | Kaso| | <Kaso|> http://www.wowwiki.com/Lua_variable_scoping |
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| 13:16.49 | Drakhaon2 | ok, cause I have a textfield, but when I try myText:SetText it tells me it doesnt exitst |
| 13:16.51 | Drakhaon2 | exist* |
| 13:16.58 | amro | Drakhaon2: one way would be to do myFrame.myText = myFrame:CreateFontString... and you can then access it from myFrame.myText |
| 13:17.28 | Kaso | then yah the variable is out of scope, you should check out that wiki link to get a better understanding of how variables and scope works in lua |
| 13:17.45 | Drakhaon2 | Kaso > already am |
| 13:19.20 | Pheredhel | how can you delete a repo on wowi ? |
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| 13:21.48 | Mikk | It might be that you need to ask an admin to do it |
| 13:21.54 | Mikk | It certainly is the case for deleting normal projects |
| 13:22.23 | Cairenn | you need to talk to D.olby, when he's awake |
| 13:22.43 | Pheredhel | ah ok, just misclicked on create before entering the name ... trackpad ... hmpf |
| 13:22.46 | Pheredhel | ok thanks |
| 13:23.32 | Pheredhel | any idea when you can talk with him? don't want to wake somebody up ;) |
| 13:24.05 | Pheredhel | i.e. what timezone is he in |
| 13:25.23 | Drakhaon2 | Kaso > to bring it in scope.. seems like all I need to do is not use local? |
| 13:25.29 | Lopeppeppy | Timezone /= work hours, sadly.... |
| 13:26.12 | Kaso | that would work, however using globals is usually not the best course of action |
| 13:26.34 | Kaso | because if any other addon uses a global with the same name it'll cause problem. |
| 13:26.53 | Drakhaon2 | so drop a local infront of my myText:SetText..? |
| 13:27.11 | amro | Drakhaon2: no |
| 13:27.33 | Drakhaon2 | I cant figure out how it works :/ |
| 13:27.53 | Kaso | You could make it a file-scoped local by doing some thing like "local varname" at the top of the file then treating the variable like a global, or the best way is how amro suggested and adding the fontstring as a item in the table of the main frame (which is global scoped) |
| 13:28.08 | amro | like I said, use myFrame.myText = myFrame:Create... this creates a refernce to your text in the frame table |
| 13:28.19 | amro | then you can access it, myFrame.myText:SetText("boo") |
| 13:28.31 | Drakhaon2 | I tried that |
| 13:28.35 | amro | what happens? |
| 13:28.44 | Drakhaon2 | same error, the fontstring doesnt exist |
| 13:28.49 | Drakhaon2 | tho I can see it :P |
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| 13:29.11 | amro | can you pastebin your code? |
| 13:29.27 | Drakhaon2 | sure |
| 13:29.50 | Drakhaon2 | I'll strip out the parts that has nothing to do with it |
| 13:30.12 | Pheredhel | well let's just try |
| 13:30.23 | Pheredhel | Dolby : ping |
| 13:33.38 | Drakhaon2 | heh.. atleast Im trying to pastebin it :P seems my wireless wont let me |
| 13:33.46 | Cairenn | he's not on the site, so he's still asleep |
| 13:34.27 | Cairenn | just keep an eye on the users online list :) |
| 13:34.46 | Pheredhel | oh, good idea, thanks |
| 13:35.43 | Cairenn | I'd say I'd poke him when I see him awake, but since I haven't slept yet, I may very well be asleep when he wakes |
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| 13:37.27 | Pheredhel | yes, and even then, the question would be if I'm alive then |
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| 13:38.22 | Drakhaon2 | amro > my connection wont let me paste :P so.. first - in a OnLoad function I do this: TNTMain.lblAutoSellBagName = TNTMain:CreateFontString(nil, nil, "GameFontNormalSmall") |
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| 13:38.48 | Drakhaon2 | and later - in a OnValueChange I do this: TNTMain.lblAutoSellBagName:SetText("|cffccff33"..GetBagName(bagID)) - and that one errors |
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| 13:40.00 | Kaso | What is the scope of TNTMain Drakhaon2 ? |
| 13:40.17 | Drakhaon2 | TNTMain is an XML created frame |
| 13:40.25 | Drakhaon2 | <Frame name="TNTMain" frameStrata="HIGH" toplevel="true" enableMouse="true" movable="true" parent="UIParent" visible="false"> |
| 13:41.03 | Kaso | what's the exact error you get |
| 13:41.31 | Drakhaon2 | that lblAutoSellBagName is nil |
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| 13:43.29 | Kaso | That shouldn't be happening with what you've shown us, really i'd have to see the full lua and perhaps the full error to help more |
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| 13:43.40 | Kaso | try http://pastey.net if pastebin is not working |
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| 13:44.01 | Drakhaon2 | its the same error as youd get if you did a /script message(getglobal("kjsdfgkjsdnfsdnfsdfnk"):GetText()) |
| 13:44.07 | Drakhaon2 | as if the item doesnt exist |
| 13:44.36 | Drakhaon2 | http://pastey.net/99336 |
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| 13:47.37 | Kaso | are you sure BagUpdate isnt getting called before Initialize? |
| 13:47.37 | [Liquidor] | Just curious but why = TNTMain:CreateFontString(nil, nil, "GameFontNormalSmall") and not = CreateFontString(nil, nil, "GameFontNormalSmall") |
| 13:48.06 | [Liquidor] | Just curious but why "= TNTMain:CreateFontString(nil, nil, "GameFontNormalSmall")" and not "= CreateFontString(nil, nil, "GameFontNormalSmall")" ? |
| 13:48.28 | Drakhaon2 | yea - cause the bagupdate is from an item inside the frame calling initialize |
| 13:48.31 | Lyn | sb, we can now talk to each other ingame! you just have to get infected by the plague x) |
| 13:49.17 | Lyn | test |
| 13:49.17 | Lyn | ah |
| 13:49.29 | Drakhaon2 | its from a slider OnValueChange |
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| 13:49.37 | Drakhaon2 | and you can see in the lua code when the value changes |
| 13:51.23 | amro | what happens when you /dump TNTMain.lblAutoSellBagName? |
| 13:52.20 | Drakhaon2 | Kaso > any ideas? :D |
| 13:53.21 | Kaso | The code shown there does not seem to be causing the issue, try doing debug dumps like amro so you can see when TNTMain.lblAutoSellBagName exists and when it ceases to exist |
| 13:53.33 | Drakhaon2 | I'll just add an IF statement before to check if lblAutoSell exists |
| 13:53.53 | Kaso | thats a hack-fix really |
| 13:54.02 | cladhaire | yay |
| 13:54.09 | cladhaire | Drao the Hallowed |
| 13:54.10 | Kaso | you should work out what is going causing the problem rather than stopping the symptom |
| 13:54.12 | cladhaire | draoi rather |
| 13:54.13 | amro | it SHOULD exist, you want to know why it doesn't and fix it |
| 13:54.16 | cladhaire | and not yet, next patch tho :P |
| 13:54.27 | Kaso | Drakhaon2, try pasting the xml too |
| 13:56.35 | Castigo | guys is there any addon to "profile" |
| 13:56.44 | Castigo | out of the blue my addon started going really "slow" |
| 13:57.15 | Castigo | (and sincerly i got now clue why) |
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| 13:57.59 | Drakhaon | Kaso > can this error occur cause the frame isnt showing? |
| 13:58.21 | malreth | there's a female grackle here in this coffee shop |
| 13:58.40 | Kaso | hmm? the frame isnt visible? |
| 13:58.48 | malreth | she's just strutting around, gobbling up all the little bits of bread dropped from the tables up here |
| 13:58.50 | Kaso | that could be somewhat to blame |
| 13:59.31 | malreth | it's like an all you can eat buffet for her |
| 14:01.40 | malreth | http://twitpic.com/hrca |
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| 14:02.18 | Lopeppeppy | She's lovely, malreth |
| 14:02.46 | malreth | yeah... well austinites don't think so |
| 14:03.04 | Lopeppeppy | Bah to them. |
| 14:03.08 | ShaneSveller | Castigo: idk but let me know if you find one. there was a fubar plugin i used to use, http://www.wowace.com/projects/fu-bar_usage/ but i don't anymore |
| 14:03.18 | malreth | twice every year during their migrations, every tree and powerline is packed with grackles |
| 14:03.24 | malreth | and there are a lot of trees in austin |
| 14:03.34 | malreth | you can't walk anywhere without an umbrella |
| 14:04.39 | malreth | still though, i have to admire her boldness. she's just jaunting around from table to table cleaning up the floor |
| 14:05.04 | Drakhaon | how do I make sure a frame is hidden from start (without using onload myFrame:Hide() |
| 14:05.41 | malreth | Drakhaon: you don't need an onload handler to hide your frame from the start |
| 14:05.54 | malreth | Drakhaon: just Hide() it after you create it |
| 14:06.20 | Drakhaon | Im creating it using XML code atm |
| 14:06.26 | malreth | Drakhaon: oh, even easier |
| 14:06.35 | malreth | just specify for it to be hidden |
| 14:06.39 | malreth | i forget the property name |
| 14:06.43 | Drakhaon | me too :P |
| 14:06.54 | Drakhaon | visible="false" seems to be wrong |
| 14:07.29 | cog|sleep | hidden="true" |
| 14:07.32 | malreth | it's hidden... doh |
| 14:07.34 | malreth | yeah |
| 14:07.38 | Drakhaon | heh |
| 14:07.48 | cog|sleep | oh and lern2UI.xsd ;) |
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| 14:07.55 | malreth | http://fara.webeddie.com/ui/ |
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| 14:08.28 | cog|sleep | xml editor with code completion based on the schema = never having to remember things like that :P |
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| 14:09.04 | malreth | using lua to create frames also means not having to remember those things |
| 14:09.09 | malreth | also, not caring helps |
| 14:09.20 | Drakhaon | =) |
| 14:09.36 | cog|sleep | nah... using lua just means you have to memorize APIs and parameter lists instead of tags and attributes |
| 14:09.42 | malreth | too many people have started to sit down at tables... she's gotten nervous and fled to the ceiling rafters |
| 14:10.05 | malreth | it's only a matter of time before someone's coffee gets pooed |
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| 14:10.38 | cogwheel | malreth: the best coffee has already been pooed |
| 14:10.58 | Lopeppeppy | Ooh, yeah! I got some of that for my brother in law last year. |
| 14:10.59 | malreth | cogwheel: i doubt people would pay a premium for the bird treatment |
| 14:11.01 | Lopeppeppy | He didn't believe me. |
| 14:11.35 | cogwheel | malreth: http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/k/kopiluwak.htm |
| 14:11.39 | malreth | also, Ms. Lopeppeppy, how have you become energy efficient today? |
| 14:12.05 | malreth | if it's the coffee beans that go through the digestive tract of some mammal-like animal, i know about it |
| 14:12.56 | malreth | those Japanese have a fascination with poop |
| 14:13.30 | Lopeppeppy | malreth, I replaced my lightbulbs with nice energy efficient ones of lower wattages. |
| 14:13.46 | malreth | Lopeppeppy: awesomes. CFLs? |
| 14:15.05 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. The campus Sustainability office is doing a push. And since I only use desk lamps in my office (I had those damn overheads unscrewed first thing), I put in for new bulbs. |
| 14:15.15 | cogwheel | ahh CFLs... Has there ever been a time that environmentalists pushed so hard for everyone to adopt something so toxic into their daily lives? |
| 14:15.27 | malreth | i did one better than CFLs |
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| 14:16.56 | Lopeppeppy | I hear you, cogwheel, but the school does have a disposal plan in place as well, no just "toss them into the trash" crap. |
| 14:17.03 | malreth | it wasn't easy, but i replaced all my CFLs to even lower wattage lights |
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| 14:18.49 | cogwheel | my dad is the president of a local solar installation startup |
| 14:19.20 | malreth | so now, our home is lit using wick lamps burning whale oil. they use zero electricity. |
| 14:19.39 | malreth | best of all, they're all natural. no toxic chemicals. |
| 14:19.53 | cogwheel | oleander is natural |
| 14:19.56 | Lopeppeppy | malreth, you're a pain in the ass. And you're emitting serious CO2 with those fires. |
| 14:19.59 | cogwheel | so is nightshade |
| 14:20.04 | cogwheel | and cyanide |
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| 14:21.03 | malreth | Lopeppeppy: yes, but those whales breathed in all that carbon whilst they were alive. so it's a net zero carbon footprint. |
| 14:21.53 | cogwheel | actually, i'm sure the food chain beneath them was responsible for a much larger portion of their carbon content |
| 14:22.11 | Lopeppeppy | Whales do not breathe carbon, silly. |
| 14:22.25 | cogwheel | and there's that |
| 14:22.33 | cogwheel | well, at least not _in_ |
| 14:22.39 | malreth | shows what you know. i fooled you all. Whales don't breathe at all. they're water swimmers. |
| 14:22.57 | krka | whales don't breathe at all? |
| 14:23.06 | krka | i thought all mammals breathed |
| 14:23.24 | malreth | krka: you mean like those animals that poop coffee? |
| 14:23.56 | krka | right |
| 14:23.56 | Lopeppeppy | They don't breathe carbon. No mammal does and survives. |
| 14:25.48 | malreth | oh man! i got tricked and turned into Diablo! |
| 14:26.26 | Lopeppeppy | Oh noes. |
| 14:26.44 | malreth | i just want a frellin' squashling pet |
| 14:26.48 | malreth | or a wand |
| 14:26.53 | malreth | maybe even a mask |
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| 14:28.44 | Adys | anyone using wine here, and has been getting crashes specifically in shattrath since very recently (last night)? |
| 14:31.04 | malreth | i heard tell of people crashing for some reason when going near the flight person |
| 14:31.38 | Adys | thats where it happens yes |
| 14:31.38 | malreth | something about the zombie event might be causing it |
| 14:31.52 | malreth | i didn't have a problem, tho |
| 14:31.56 | Adys | yeah what Im thinking |
| 14:32.37 | malreth | also... Zombies. Great world event or the greatest world event? AMIRITE? |
| 14:32.52 | Lopeppeppy | Braaaaaaains. |
| 14:32.59 | Ose | YURITE! |
| 14:33.18 | Ose | anyways caps lock day was yesterday |
| 14:33.45 | Ose | is it possible to write a "random title" addon or macro? |
| 14:33.52 | malreth | Ose: yes |
| 14:34.03 | Ose | has it been done? |
| 14:34.03 | malreth | i think gello crafted one on the ui forum |
| 14:34.11 | Ose | linkies |
| 14:34.16 | malreth | lazies |
| 14:34.41 | malreth | but for you, my friend, i'll go look |
| 14:35.27 | malreth | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7720016094&postId=82017116902&sid=1#11 |
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| 14:35.38 | malreth | it's not exactly what you want, i think, but it's a start |
| 14:48.01 | zenzelezz | http://www.gucomics.com/comic/?cdate=20081022 |
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| 14:48.38 | Wikwocket | I am having the weirdest problem with dropdown menus |
| 14:49.02 | Lopeppeppy | Feed them more M&M's, works for me. |
| 14:49.09 | Wikwocket | Is there any reason why setting info.tooltipTitle/info.tooltipText would work on one account but not another? |
| 14:49.38 | Wikwocket | I can get my tooltips to show on my wife's account but not mine, even after deleting my WTF/Interface o_O |
| 14:52.27 | Wikwocket | I have FCT on, that shouldn't be it though... |
| 14:53.09 | malreth | presuming no other addons are conflicting, i would say the only difference potentially is the data you are feeding into the tooltip |
| 14:53.15 | Lopeppeppy | What is FCT, and have you tried with it turned off? These are computers, they are notoriously fussy |
| 14:53.30 | Wikwocket | FCT is the built in floating combat text |
| 14:53.49 | Wikwocket | in desperation I am comparing the config-cache.wtf files form the 2 accounts |
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| 14:57.38 | Wikwocket | sigh I give up |
| 14:57.52 | Wikwocket | tooltips for dropdowns > me |
| 14:58.16 | malreth | oh man... sometimes some people just really piss me off |
| 14:58.16 | malreth | http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/10/23/1023voterscam.html |
| 15:00.33 | malreth | interestingly, i didn't know the word "polecat" referred to people who trick people into not voting |
| 15:01.09 | Lopeppeppy | That might just be regular slang usage of "nasty person", as opposed to having a political meaning. |
| 15:02.03 | Wikwocket | 'polecat' means 'skunk' usually |
| 15:11.02 | ShaneSveller | cause those are totally the same animals. |
| 15:11.49 | AnduinLothar | skunk or weasel |
| 15:12.08 | malreth | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11676470109&postId=116938987406 |
| 15:12.53 | Mundyz | have they nerfed levelling weapon skill on invulnerable mobs? |
| 15:12.54 | ShaneSveller | l2google? |
| 15:13.10 | ShaneSveller | (@forum user linked by malreth) |
| 15:13.10 | Lopeppeppy | Mundyz, so I understand. |
| 15:13.35 | Lopeppeppy | malreth, I just taught him how to fish a little, let's see what happens. |
| 15:13.39 | malreth | Mundyz: my wife smacks around the mobs inside of shadow lab, i believe |
| 15:14.11 | malreth | but she's a priest and has no chance of pulling aggro so... |
| 15:14.17 | Mundyz | i see |
| 15:14.28 | Mundyz | thats really fucking gay |
| 15:14.38 | malreth | hey! |
| 15:14.42 | malreth | watch your fucking mouth |
| 15:15.13 | Wikwocket | Weapon skill in general is kind of pointless, but no need to be vulgar about it |
| 15:15.20 | malreth | Lopeppeppy: <3 |
| 15:15.31 | Esine | it doesn't matter in pvp anyway so why bother |
| 15:15.36 | Lopeppeppy | Achievement, Esine |
| 15:15.37 | Mundyz | oh really |
| 15:15.38 | Mundyz | nice |
| 15:15.42 | Esine | ah |
| 15:15.42 | ShaneSveller | malreth: that forum post is sad. "plz give me only links". i'm curious about someone who can level to 70 without even looking at/for addons at all. sure, it's possible, but almost everyone looks into them sooner or later. ebay maybe? |
| 15:16.23 | malreth | i've got a friend who used to raid all the time without addons of any kind |
| 15:17.05 | malreth | like, five nights a week or more |
| 15:17.15 | ShaneSveller | wow. |
| 15:17.26 | malreth | i think he eventually relented and installed omen... but that was it really |
| 15:17.35 | Wikwocket | Clearly that guy uses mods, he mentions several |
| 15:17.53 | Wikwocket | And nothing wrong with asking, can anyone recommend a mod to do X. He just posted a lot of questions all at once. |
| 15:18.45 | ShaneSveller | Wikwocket: it just seems like he made no effort on his own part to look for them first, that's all. "and could you come over and install them for me plx" |
| 15:19.44 | Wikwocket | There was a bit of that, sure. But it was probably just innocent (and clueless) curiousity. |
| 15:19.44 | Lyn | for what does sinister squashling sell on vendor? i have 3 of it |
| 15:20.01 | Lyn | *for how much |
| 15:20.10 | ShaneSveller | Lyn: you want to vendor squashlings??? |
| 15:20.25 | Lyn | i have already one and 2 in my bag |
| 15:20.30 | Lyn | cant learn another 2 |
| 15:20.47 | ShaneSveller | ah. are they soulbound? |
| 15:20.52 | Lyn | sadly, yes |
| 15:21.27 | Lopeppeppy | Go ask the vendor if they want them. I expect at least a few silver, if they are at all vendorable. |
| 15:21.32 | malreth | before you vender them... |
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| 15:21.46 | malreth | can you first find out... will it blend? |
| 15:21.52 | Lyn | ahah |
| 15:21.53 | Lyn | haha |
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| 15:22.04 | Lyn | vendor doesnt want them :< |
| 15:22.21 | Lopeppeppy | Then just trash them, sadly. |
| 15:22.45 | Lyn | mh.. not yet i wait how many i will get |
| 15:22.56 | Lyn | maybe at the end of halloween thingy i've 20 or so lol |
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| 15:23.19 | malreth | Lyn: i approve |
| 15:23.19 | Lopeppeppy | Tell me that you pass when they drop from the Horseman, and you're just getting these as Trick or Treat bag items? |
| 15:23.59 | Wikwocket | Most likely, they drop a lot from treat bags |
| 15:24.04 | Wikwocket | Lyn: did you ever catch your fish? :) |
| 15:25.03 | Lyn | Wikwocket, no.. |
| 15:25.07 | Lyn | killed me |
| 15:25.19 | Lyn | everytime i was there about 20 horde was there |
| 15:25.35 | Wikwocket | Those jerks :P |
| 15:25.39 | Lyn | amsuing, when a guildie was there, he just get killed about 3 times |
| 15:26.09 | Lyn | same time of day.. |
| 15:26.44 | AckisWork | http://www.explosm.net/comics/1439/ <-- how you have babies (SFW) |
| 15:27.09 | ShaneSveller | good old c&h |
| 15:29.02 | kamdis | AckisWork, lol |
| 15:29.18 | malreth | aw crap. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms08-oct.mspx |
| 15:29.34 | malreth | i know what i'm doing for the rest of my week |
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| 15:31.34 | malreth | MS doesn't post an out of band critical update unless it's potentially really bad |
| 15:31.39 | Lopeppeppy | Um... what you linked just says that there's a storm coming, not what it actually is. Am I reading that correctly? |
| 15:31.45 | Lopeppeppy | "Tomorrow we have bad news for you!!" |
| 15:31.48 | malreth | Lopeppeppy: yes |
| 15:32.14 | malreth | but it means that i'll have to patch all my windows computers ASAP |
| 15:32.22 | Lopeppeppy | Sexy fun. |
| 15:32.34 | malreth | cause the security office will run a campus wide audit for whatever exploit this is |
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| 15:35.53 | Lyn | ravager is one of the funniest weapons ever :o |
| 15:36.14 | mikma | muahahahaha! 3minutes until the doom (me) hits Ironforge AH |
| 15:36.23 | Lopeppeppy | mikma, you're evil |
| 15:36.27 | Lopeppeppy | Go get 'em, Tiger. |
| 15:39.48 | Drakhaon | AH sucks.. I tried to sell a ton of leather at 50% of normal AH price, sold none |
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| 15:40.55 | Lopeppeppy | They don't need leather for inscription? |
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| 15:41.10 | mikma | oh yeah |
| 15:41.15 | mikma | whole AH infected, even the npc's |
| 15:43.17 | malreth | The power of Light compels you! The power of Light compels you! |
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| 15:44.08 | mikma | i wonder can the king be diseased |
| 15:44.35 | ScytheBlade1 | The gnome king sure can be |
| 15:44.56 | mikma | what about the king of IF |
| 15:44.59 | ScytheBlade1 | No idea |
| 15:45.10 | mikma | well we'll see soon, need to visit bb anyway |
| 15:45.52 | Daemona | i was yelled at for spoling the fun |
| 15:45.56 | Daemona | because i killed zombies |
| 15:46.37 | Daemona | haunt is fun |
| 15:48.17 | Gnarfoz | sbo turns into a zombie because of it |
| 15:49.13 | Lopeppeppy | Sbo is a zombie already! No effect |
| 15:49.13 | ScytheBlade1 | GOOD |
| 15:49.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I lead a largeish zombie invasion of SW last night |
| 15:49.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Converting screenshots now |
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| 15:56.30 | Lyn | ah |
| 15:56.32 | Lyn | another 2 pets |
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| 16:01.17 | malreth | "You killed zombie Sbo!" "Sbo was a zombie?" |
| 16:01.41 | ScytheBlade1 | I sure was |
| 16:01.43 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/3.0/zombies/WoWScrnShot_102208_224349.jpg |
| 16:01.47 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/3.0/zombies/WoWScrnShot_102208_224418.jpg |
| 16:01.53 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/3.0/zombies/WoWScrnShot_102208_224455.jpg |
| 16:02.13 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/3.0/zombies/WoWScrnShot_102208_224712.jpg |
| 16:02.19 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/3.0/zombies/WoWScrnShot_102208_224714.jpg |
| 16:02.22 | ScytheBlade1 | k done spamming |
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| 16:02.41 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 16:02.49 | ScytheBlade1 | There are... a lot more |
| 16:03.05 | ScytheBlade1 | I lied, one more |
| 16:03.06 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/3.0/zombies/WoWScrnShot_102208_233942.jpg |
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| 16:07.54 | AckisWork | does the author of ATSW hand around on IRC? |
| 16:08.42 | mikma | god damn |
| 16:08.48 | mikma | sw king is too heavily guarded :O |
| 16:08.59 | malreth | trying to zombify him? |
| 16:09.02 | mikma | they managed to kill me before i was able to disease them |
| 16:09.05 | mikma | malreth: ya :D |
| 16:09.09 | mikma | now i'll try IF king |
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| 16:12.03 | Drakhaon | mikma > you need a decoy |
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| 16:13.36 | Drakhaon | no info on wowwiki - but is PETITION_VENDOR_SHOW triggered when I open a vendor trade? |
| 16:14.40 | mikma | drakhaon: get iriel's devtools |
| 16:14.53 | Drakhaon | is it googable? |
| 16:15.02 | Wikwocket | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/PETITION_VENDOR_SHOW implies it doesn't |
| 16:15.10 | mikma | ~devtools |
| 16:15.10 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 16:15.31 | Drakhaon | =) |
| 16:16.26 | ShaneSveller | AckisWork: why do you ask about ATSW? |
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| 16:20.28 | Seerah | protect your logon info! http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081023/ap_on_re_as/as_japan_avatar_murder |
| 16:22.05 | AckisWork | ShaneSveller: wanted to ask the author a question |
| 16:22.57 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, Seerah, that would be the equivalent of logging into someone's WoW and deleting their characters. Fun times. |
| 16:24.06 | Wikwocket | Of course GM's can undelete characters |
| 16:24.40 | Lopeppeppy | And I'm sure they can do that on the other online game too... revenge is deadly. |
| 16:35.11 | ShaneSveller | does anyone know the hotkey for mac wow screenshots without using an external program? (i have no f13 key on my macbook...) |
| 16:35.41 | sioraioc_ | ShaneSveller: what's the keybinding say? |
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| 16:36.15 | sioraioc_ | ShaneSveller: if it says f13, you just need to set a new one |
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| 16:36.43 | ShaneSveller | sioraioc_: didn't see it, i'll look through again more closely |
| 16:37.00 | sioraioc_ | ShaneSveller: there definitely is one, I can look on my client, too, if you want, but that is how I would find it out :) |
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| 16:37.59 | ShaneSveller | sioraioc_: found it, thanks |
| 16:38.14 | Adys | is there a cvar to diable "earthquake"-like effects? |
| 16:38.34 | sioraioc_ | ShaneSveller: out of curiosity, what was it? |
| 16:38.38 | ShaneSveller | Adys: not yet |
| 16:38.40 | zenzelezz | so I must say, MacOS X is pretty nice... after getting my keyboard layout to match my Windows one. But I still keep getting the Apple/Ctrl/Alt stuff wrong :-| |
| 16:38.44 | Adys | yet? |
| 16:38.48 | ShaneSveller | sioraioc_: f13 is default, yeah |
| 16:39.00 | sioraioc_ | zenzelezz: yeah, I lke the accent layout in Mac better, though |
| 16:39.09 | sioraioc_ | zenzelezz: and wait until you have to switch between the two, is maddening |
| 16:39.13 | ShaneSveller | Adys: coming in 3.0.3 or later, there was a blue post after everyone QQed about rare pets |
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| 16:39.19 | Adys | <3<3 |
| 16:41.05 | zenzelezz | sioraioc_: yeah, the accent thing was nice. If I didn't use Windows/Linux normally, I might just adapt to the Mac stuff, but seeing how I will be going back and forth (only using the Mac for iPhone development) it'd just be too confusing :) |
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| 16:49.32 | sioraioc_ | zenzelezz: even worse, I go between an American mac and a K pac |
| 16:49.58 | zenzelezz | sioraioc_: K pac? |
| 16:50.26 | sioraioc_ | zenzelezz: I fail, *UK pc |
| 16:50.46 | zenzelezz | ah :-p Yeah, that seems icky |
| 16:51.13 | zenzelezz | I think I'll find a way to handle the ctrl/apple key thing, at least I have my Windows layout for the rest of the keys |
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| 16:53.48 | ShaneSveller | you can remap them |
| 16:53.52 | Lunessa | Station |
| 16:54.00 | ShaneSveller | I do when using a windows USB keyboard on my imac |
| 16:54.08 | Kaso | can anyone think of a nifty way using sed or something to change a file's content all to lowercase? |
| 16:54.12 | ShaneSveller | Is it possible to have my WowInt account renamed? |
| 16:56.57 | malreth | Lunessa: if you haven't already heard, http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms08-oct.mspx |
| 16:57.01 | Seerah | ShaneSveller: I can change your user name, yes |
| 16:57.24 | Seerah | I forget if it changes your login info, too, or just display |
| 16:58.13 | Lunessa | malreth: Thanks. |
| 16:58.59 | Kaso | ooh, i can use vim, vim is cool |
| 16:59.11 | Drakhaon | is there a function in wow to turn x amount of copper into gold, silver and copper? as in: 13413 turns into "1g 34s 13c" or do I need to make that myself? :D |
| 16:59.23 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa dear. |
| 16:59.43 | Lunessa | Morning Peppy. *huggles* |
| 17:01.08 | Dewin | Seerah: From my experience, it changes the login info as well |
| 17:01.25 | Dewin | (Cairenn changed mine once) |
| 17:01.26 | Seerah | I think it needs an admin anyhow to make the change stick |
| 17:01.30 | Seerah | or I was doing it wrong |
| 17:03.30 | linear` | what does |
| 17:03.32 | linear` | sticky channels do |
| 17:03.50 | Industrial | makes channels sticky |
| 17:04.19 | linear` | whats that mean |
| 17:04.33 | Industrial | that they stick |
| 17:04.33 | ShaneSveller | when you press enter to start typing it will continue in the channel you used last, I think |
| 17:05.32 | Dewin | yes. |
| 17:05.41 | Dewin | Whereas default WoW only makes /g /p /bg /r sticky |
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| 17:05.48 | Dewin | always drove me nuts. |
| 17:06.10 | Dewin | though I was annoyed when I discovered Prat -- by default -- makes tells and a few other things sticky |
| 17:08.08 | Lunessa | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/10/23/funny-pictures-and-then-toby-heard-the/ |
| 17:08.31 | Industrial | lulz |
| 17:08.54 | Lunessa | That's serious fear. |
| 17:11.00 | Lopeppeppy | Poor kitty |
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| 17:11.50 | Codex| | ive been locked out of my character for 12 hours now |
| 17:11.53 | Codex| | damn zombies |
| 17:12.59 | Drakhaon | you get locked out if infected |
| 17:13.01 | Drakhaon | ? |
| 17:13.36 | Lopeppeppy | No. |
| 17:13.55 | Lopeppeppy | The servers sometimes get overloaded by zombie waves, if you get booted badly you can have a hard time getting back online. |
| 17:14.08 | Lopeppeppy | Codex|, enter a petition from another character to have the effected character moved by a GM? |
| 17:15.38 | Industrial | one for all, all for one we are strong one for all, all for one we are one NEMESIS |
| 17:15.42 | Industrial | \m/ -_- \m/ |
| 17:15.56 | Lopeppeppy | Rock on? |
| 17:16.26 | Industrial | its a metal band with a female vocalist (very rare) :O |
| 17:16.37 | Lunessa | This is why musicians need to get past the 8th grade... |
| 17:16.38 | Codex| | Lopeppeppy: the petitions been open for 13 hours |
| 17:16.42 | Codex| | :/ |
| 17:17.02 | Codex| | i zombied in stv, hopped on a boat, and thats that |
| 17:17.05 | Codex| | boat zoned, i got dc'd |
| 17:17.25 | selckin | portal in shat |
| 17:17.27 | selckin | dc |
| 17:17.31 | Codex| | a lot of people on the customer srvice forum have been taken care of' |
| 17:17.37 | Codex| | but not me yet |
| 17:17.56 | Industrial | songs dont need sound (haha) lyrics to eb good songs Lunessa. |
| 17:18.03 | Lopeppeppy | Did you put in an ingame petition, or just post on the CSF? |
| 17:18.24 | selckin | get someone from the other faction to kill you |
| 17:18.26 | Industrial | Lopeppeppy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvCAWvWTXQM&fmt=18 |
| 17:18.26 | selckin | then you can login again |
| 17:18.37 | Lopeppeppy | Industrial, I can't watch at work. :| |
| 17:18.42 | Industrial | aw |
| 17:18.46 | Industrial | i just got back from work |
| 17:18.48 | Codex| | Lopeppeppy: both |
| 17:18.49 | Lunessa | Industrial, sure ... they can sound great which is why we can listen to music in languages we don't know and still enjoy them. But songs which have a message - any message - should at least say something decipherable. |
| 17:19.01 | Codex| | selckin: no body can kill me if my characters been offline for hours |
| 17:19.24 | Industrial | Lunessa: I think thats quite understandable... we are the nemesis? :P |
| 17:19.42 | Codex| | a lot of people have been moved by a GM, yet they still cant log in |
| 17:19.50 | selckin | Codex|: if you login and get d/c you're in game for at least 30 seconds |
| 17:19.53 | Dewin | whoever at MS wrote Windows Search 4.0 ought to be fired. |
| 17:19.57 | Lopeppeppy | Codex|, as long as your in game petition is still open, you just have to have patience, much as it sucks. *hug* If you get moved and still can't get logged on, petition #2. |
| 17:20.05 | Lunessa | Industrial... whatever. My point still stands. |
| 17:20.27 | Lopeppeppy | Rename Interface/WTF, all the standard recommendations for "I can't log in!" , and then you can ask again. |
| 17:20.44 | Drakhaon | how do I make a minimap button? |
| 17:20.59 | Dewin | heh, I wish GMs wouldn't suggest that as their first action of fixing things. |
| 17:21.04 | Lopeppeppy | I assume you already tried to log in with Interface/WTF renamed, correct Codex|? |
| 17:21.16 | Codex| | i JUST read that >.> |
| 17:21.17 | Codex| | brb |
| 17:21.35 | Lopeppeppy | Dewin, they have to. Addons /= game, and they need us to take it back to just the vanilla game to see if the problem is game or stuff. |
| 17:21.54 | Dewin | Lopeppeppy: I had a GM say it was an addon issue when I was reporting a bug of an invisible monster attacking me. |
| 17:22.03 | Dewin | addons aren't capable of causing that... |
| 17:22.43 | Lopeppeppy | It doesn't matter if they aren't technically capable... Blizzard does not own addons and won't diagnose issues while they are installed. It makes perfect sense to me. |
| 17:22.52 | Industrial | Lopeppeppy: ok well then; http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/AngelaGossowWOA2006.jpg/399px-AngelaGossowWOA2006.jpg |
| 17:22.56 | Industrial | \o/ |
| 17:23.00 | Shane|Work | she's cute |
| 17:23.06 | Lopeppeppy | She's hot, Indie. |
| 17:23.17 | Industrial | I know that :D |
| 17:23.19 | kamdis | Is she even speaking english? |
| 17:23.21 | kamdis | lol |
| 17:23.21 | Lopeppeppy | Especially the football warpaint. |
| 17:23.27 | Codex| | Lopeppeppy: nope, same thing, did work for some people on the forums tho |
| 17:23.32 | Shane|Work | I still prefer Cristina from Lacuna Coil tho |
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| 17:23.38 | Industrial | Lopeppeppy: you've got to hear the voice its amazing :D |
| 17:23.45 | Shane|Work | or Lacey from Flyleaf |
| 17:23.47 | Industrial | that is, if you are into metal. |
| 17:24.12 | Industrial | if you arent then youll probably think she needs an exorcist :o |
| 17:24.19 | Lunessa | Lacuna Coil... they rock. |
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| 17:24.38 | Lopeppeppy | She needs an exorcist then, because I'm listening to Bob Seger right now. |
| 17:24.46 | Industrial | :P |
| 17:25.48 | Syzgyn | I'm a bit behind on my secure headers; Is it at all possible to cast a spell out of combat with a custom /command anymore? |
| 17:25.59 | Shane|Work | Industrial: I'd almost have to argue that women in metal are rare. After all, I just named two from memory, and Arch Enemy is huge in the genre and they have a woman vocalist too |
| 17:26.13 | Codex| | Prat doesnt want to remember my chat channel colors- anyone having same issue? |
| 17:26.28 | Shane|Work | not that you can really tell in that particular case, if you can't see her =P |
| 17:26.41 | Syzgyn | Codex|: No issues here |
| 17:27.27 | Industrial | Shane|Work: kitty and i could name a slew of "gothic metal" bands with female vocalists, but they certainly dont grunt (most have a classical background) :P |
| 17:28.01 | Shane|Work | Flyleaf and Arch Enemy def fit that ticket though |
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| 17:28.11 | Codex| | hmm if youre in a raid and you have the crocolisks in the city fishing daily, apparently you catch old crafty in a few casts? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11675539142&sid=1 |
| 17:28.13 | Shane|Work | my girlfriend was the one who got me hooked on AE, actually |
| 17:28.28 | Industrial | dont know flyleaf *search* |
| 17:28.37 | Dashkal | wow, I thought those bands were less known that that. |
| 17:29.39 | Shane|Work | i seem to recall making the comment when i first saw a Flyleaf video that "hey, she's cute...AND she's a screamer!" |
| 17:30.06 | Shane|Work | Dashkal: the internet(tm). nothing is obscure here. |
| 17:30.15 | Dashkal | Shane|Work: ahh of course. my bad |
| 17:30.47 | Shane|Work | sort of a corollary or generalization of rule 34 |
| 17:31.11 | Dashkal | Point |
| 17:31.24 | Dashkal | If you've thought of it, there's a website |
| 17:32.09 | Codex| | does catching old crafty in a raid count? |
| 17:32.38 | Dashkal | I don't think achievements care about group/raid unless explicitly stated. I got costume credit in kara last night |
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| 17:33.08 | Jelly-School | ~hug Peppy |
| 17:33.09 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Peppy |
| 17:33.13 | Codex| | well nost he time to go fish your old craftys |
| 17:33.16 | Codex| | nows the* |
| 17:33.21 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Jelly-dear. |
| 17:33.34 | Dashkal | good point. I should make a run at that one |
| 17:33.39 | Codex| | theres should be a "whats todays dailies" website |
| 17:33.41 | Dashkal | at minimum I'll get the diplomatic fisher one |
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| 17:33.53 | Dewin | Codex|: Calendar addon? |
| 17:33.57 | Jelly-School | So what's going on in the world of WoW UIs today? |
| 17:34.11 | Lopeppeppy | Brains. Zombies are eating your brains |
| 17:34.12 | Codex| | it does it dewin? |
| 17:34.17 | Codex| | also, i was thinking more out of game |
| 17:34.20 | Dewin | No, it should :) |
| 17:34.34 | Dewin | world of world of warcraft user interface? |
| 17:34.48 | Codex| | dash: all you need is to be in a raid and have the corc in city quest, then apparently you can catch 3 in a row |
| 17:34.50 | Codex| | :/ |
| 17:34.55 | Dewin | You mean you can customize the UI for World of World of Warcraft? ( http://www.theonion.com/content/video/warcraft_sequel_lets_gamers_play ) |
| 17:34.56 | Codex| | oh |
| 17:36.39 | Dashkal | Codex|: *blinks* did you just say that old crafty drops in org at a much higher rate if you have croc in the city? O.o |
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| 17:41.28 | Drakhaon | is it possible to have several different icons in the same TGA (same size) and still only display one of them as a background? |
| 17:41.45 | Shane|Work | yeah, I believe so |
| 17:41.48 | Dewin | Yes. |
| 17:41.55 | Drakhaon | ok, how? =) |
| 17:41.59 | Dewin | Digging that up now |
| 17:42.22 | Dewin | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Texture_SetTexCoord |
| 17:42.26 | alestane | That. |
| 17:42.41 | alestane | Or the <TextCoords> element n XML. |
| 17:42.52 | alestane | <TexCoords>, rather. |
| 17:43.05 | Dewin | My mind absorbs strange random things, I recall reading over that and going "Hmm" when I wasn't even looking for anything particular ;) |
| 17:43.17 | Dewin | so I remembered it existed just not what it was |
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| 17:43.39 | Drakhaon | thanks |
| 17:43.42 | Dewin | (This strange random things is bad, I hit a jumble of random characters on my keyboard for a random password once and have been using it for one of my passwords ever since) |
| 17:44.32 | Dewin | Hmm the ability to do transformations with that looks fun. |
| 17:45.47 | Drakhaon | every time i random strikes keys I end up with a asdsasdf combo |
| 17:47.41 | Dashkal | move fingers one inch to the right :p |
| 17:48.17 | Drakhaon | =) |
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| 17:50.39 | mikma | ladies! What's the second button in Moccamaster coffeemaker? :D |
| 17:51.01 | kamdis | ladies? |
| 17:51.02 | Drakhaon | o? |
| 17:51.23 | mikma | most likely the ladies know it better than the gentlemen |
| 17:51.29 | kamdis | why is that? |
| 17:51.32 | Drakhaon | hence my bad reply |
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| 17:51.35 | Dashkal | Question: Can lurker be stealthed to? |
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| 17:51.44 | NeoTron | Dashkal: no |
| 17:51.47 | Syzgyn | no? |
| 17:51.52 | mikma | umm, why not? |
| 17:51.53 | Dashkal | What stops me? |
| 17:52.01 | NeoTron | stealth detecting mobs? |
| 17:52.01 | Dashkal | I have water walking pots so the water isn't an issue |
| 17:52.11 | Dashkal | how many packs? (Shadowmeld) |
| 17:52.13 | mikma | what about swimming? what happens |
| 17:52.13 | NeoTron | afaik you can't stealth there |
| 17:52.17 | NeoTron | fish |
| 17:52.24 | NeoTron | basically youi have two solo options |
| 17:52.26 | Syzgyn | If you can avoid the fishies long enough to get there, you can do it |
| 17:52.38 | Dashkal | aquatic form glyph, I can swim pretty fast |
| 17:52.41 | NeoTron | slow fall + water walking OR invis pot + water walking |
| 17:52.43 | mikma | <3 that |
| 17:52.47 | NeoTron | you die in seconds |
| 17:52.56 | NeoTron | those fish hit hard and they add up even faster |
| 17:53.21 | mikma | http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/how-to-solo-the-lurker-above-fish-lurker-below-in-ssc |
| 17:53.24 | Dashkal | invis pot + water walk? I'm gold. Gnomish cloaking device + water walk pot + parachute cloak + shadowmeld for a reset |
| 17:53.30 | mikma | What you will need: |
| 17:53.30 | mikma | - Elixir of Water Walking |
| 17:53.30 | mikma | - Noggenfogger Elixirs (bring a lot) |
| 17:53.40 | NeoTron | the method I used was an invis pot. I invis past the first platform to the second one and jump of, swimming as fast as I can for the protuding type |
| 17:54.00 | Drakhaon | whats the best event for triggering changes in party and/or raid (want something special to happend when I gain/lose leader/assistant status) |
| 17:54.05 | NeoTron | when IO made it (third attempt, with 500 health left) I healed up, drank my water walking pot and walked to lurker |
| 17:54.15 | Drakhaon | oh - wowwiki loaded now.. now I can check myself |
| 17:54.37 | Dashkal | that's it? Ok, easysauce. I'll try to do that tonight |
| 17:55.12 | NeoTron | slow fall works but I heard you need to remove it before hiting the water |
| 17:55.34 | Codex| | neotron: nope |
| 17:55.42 | Codex| | i slowfell and waterwalked off the 2nd elevator |
| 17:55.46 | Codex| | wotked fine |
| 17:55.49 | Dashkal | parachute cloak (30s cooldown) + water walking pots |
| 17:56.22 | Codex| | dont even need to use invis |
| 17:56.29 | Codex| | jump into water after 2nd elevator |
| 17:56.32 | Codex| | and there rae no mobs |
| 17:56.39 | Dashkal | nice |
| 17:56.44 | NeoTron | Codex|: IU noggenfogger + water walked off the first one and fell through the water and died from fish |
| 17:56.58 | Codex| | eek, i didnt encounter any fish |
| 17:57.04 | Codex| | first elevator or 2nd? |
| 17:57.05 | NeoTron | and I was out of slow fall options which is why I used the invis |
| 17:57.13 | Dewin | I love the PTR patch notes |
| 17:57.16 | Codex| | i followed this and was finw |
| 17:57.18 | Codex| | fine* |
| 17:57.18 | Codex| | http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/soloing-the-lurker |
| 17:57.20 | NeoTron | if you breach the water surface the fish comes |
| 17:57.28 | Dewin | << The war against spelling errors continues: many items have had typos removed or their functionality clarified. >> a few lines down << The Horsemanâs **Reings** should again function in Dalaran. >> |
| 17:57.43 | Dashkal | You fall through the water by looking down. I've never had it push me through unless I did that (path of frost trained me with that one) |
| 17:57.48 | NeoTron | I don't know what controls if you fall through but I had both slowfall + water walking and it didn't work so I went with invis pots |
| 17:57.48 | Ironi88 | mhh, is there any good howto's to start creating own wow addons ? ;P |
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| 17:57.54 | mikma | anyone here plays in alonsus eu alliance? |
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| 17:58.43 | Lunessa | ~wowprogramming |
| 17:58.43 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons (http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob) a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 17:59.45 | IronMountain | thanks ;P |
| 18:00.20 | NeoTron | Dashkal: I might have been looking into the water, not sure |
| 18:00.47 | NeoTron | still invis worked and was a bit more manly than floating down like some silly feather :P |
| 18:00.57 | Dashkal | rofl |
| 18:01.02 | Dashkal | My toon is female and has no such issues |
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| 18:03.22 | Yssaril | cladhaire: any idea why tomtom is doing that with my mod? (emailed you earlier) |
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| 18:07.44 | Syzgyn | Question: is it possible to make your own secure slash command? |
| 18:08.41 | NeoTron | Dashkal: so going DK main in LK? |
| 18:09.50 | Codex| | only reason im getting DK is for a bank toon that can use a mount :) |
| 18:10.27 | Dashkal | NeoTron: Absolutely |
| 18:10.36 | NeoTron | Codex|: lol |
| 18:10.38 | Dashkal | My Druid will remain my achievement monkey, though. She'll get lots of playtime |
| 18:12.23 | mikma | dashkal: i am about to change my druid as "main" when lk hits servers |
| 18:12.30 | mikma | now i play with enhancement shaman |
| 18:12.44 | Drakhaon | why cant I have 2 <Frame>? |
| 18:12.46 | NeoTron | my llock will be my fishing achiever |
| 18:12.58 | NeoTron | but I am not obsesses with achievements yet |
| 18:12.59 | mikma | drakhaon: what? |
| 18:13.04 | Codex| | man, the bug report forum is swarming with new bugs- hundreds |
| 18:13.06 | Codex| | holy smokes |
| 18:13.06 | Drakhaon | I copied my other <frame> and changed the name of it - but it wont show |
| 18:13.08 | Drakhaon | or load |
| 18:13.16 | Codex| | id say lay off the new content till the regular stuff is fixed.. |
| 18:13.18 | mikma | drakhaon: pastey please |
| 18:13.53 | NeoTron | the main achievemnent I will aim for is the 310% mount one |
| 18:14.04 | NeoTron | which I realized yesterday is not the 5 man heroic but only the raid ones |
| 18:14.07 | Drakhaon | oh.. nvm - found it |
| 18:14.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Codex|: yes, because im sure you have an excellent grasp on what's on blizzards plate. |
| 18:14.29 | Drakhaon | I forgot to close it |
| 18:15.06 | mikma | did the daily pvp quest got removed? |
| 18:15.10 | Dashkal | I mostly just want my achievement epeen to be on the character with feats of strength. If it wasn't for those I'd probably ignore achievements and wait for Dashkal |
| 18:15.23 | Dashkal | Sav also has the advantage of being 375 with all her professions |
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| 18:16.43 | Drakhaon | Dashkal > heh - I can only bother with the achievements on one of my characters |
| 18:17.16 | Drakhaon | got a huge problem with Terrokar tho - lack like 5 quests there |
| 18:17.19 | Dashkal | Drakhaon: exactly :p |
| 18:17.27 | Codex| | NeoTron: i heard if you 5man alar he drops the ashes |
| 18:17.31 | Dashkal | I was plesently surprised to find I started with the outland loremaster |
| 18:17.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Drakhaon: 5 quests sounds like you may have missed one of the small hubs in bone wastes |
| 18:17.52 | NightHawkTheSane | ? |
| 18:18.02 | Drakhaon | nope |
| 18:18.08 | Drakhaon | Ive flewn over the entire thing - not a single ! |
| 18:18.13 | Drakhaon | flown* |
| 18:18.46 | Drakhaon | I have done all the other queststuff for Outland, just terrokar left |
| 18:19.18 | NightHawkTheSane | I was actually missing 2 quests for BEM, because I missed a dropped item that started a chain ?> |
| 18:19.21 | NightHawkTheSane | >< |
| 18:19.42 | Drakhaon | yea Im thinking thats what Im missing in Terokkar - or something :P |
| 18:19.44 | Dashkal | Drakhaon: have a peek at zanga to see if you missed any "go to terrokarr" quests. |
| 18:19.57 | Drakhaon | could be |
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| 18:20.28 | Dashkal | I can think of two offhand: One to check on the cen town (the one that got manabombed) and one that sent me to allerian |
| 18:21.29 | Drakhaon | I'll check tomorrow when Im back on my regular ISP and not this crappy wireless GSM/3G/EDGE crap |
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| 18:27.14 | NightHawkTheSane | >.> http://notalwaysright.com/rudolph-the-boob-nosed-reinder/1312 |
| 18:29.15 | Jelly-School | NightHawkTheSane: WIN |
| 18:31.20 | Lunessa | that... that is the most bizarre thing I've heard today. |
| 18:31.47 | Jelly-School | s/bizarre/bizarrely win/ |
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| 18:35.23 | Jelly-School | http://notalwaysright.com/so-thats-what-those-other-buttons-are-for/1308 <-- |
| 18:38.19 | IronMountain | ok, im new with making addons as everyone will see on my next questin ;p, should if(event == Player_Auras_Changed == Slam!) then work? |
| 18:39.07 | kneeki | eh? |
| 18:39.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Jelly-School: that made me cry a little |
| 18:39.18 | NightHawkTheSane | IronMountain: no. |
| 18:39.42 | IronMountain | k =( |
| 18:43.19 | Jelly-School | Wow |
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| 18:50.27 | KarlKFI | wtf is "Slam!" ? |
| 18:51.23 | NeoTron | Codex|: where on earth did you hear that? ;-) He doesn't even drop the mount to begin wiuth |
| 18:52.34 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: the same place he heard that there are crates in BB that drop the squashling, imo. ;) |
| 18:52.54 | IronMountain | KarlKFI its the buff that comes for fury warriors when they crit with bloodthirst |
| 18:52.59 | malreth | no one has yet told me if the squashling will blend or not |
| 18:53.07 | kd3 | oh wow... a non-patch-tuesday security patch |
| 18:53.12 | KarlKFI | oh lol |
| 18:53.14 | Jelly-School | Slam!? With the ! ? |
| 18:53.25 | IronMountain | yep |
| 18:53.31 | Jelly-School | Hmm. |
| 18:53.32 | KarlKFI | Player_Auras_Changed needs to be all caps and be a string |
| 18:53.37 | Jelly-School | WTB 70 warrior |
| 18:53.49 | IronMountain | wts? full swp geared |
| 18:54.01 | IronMountain | KarlKFI ok, thanks :P |
| 18:54.03 | KarlKFI | and afaik that event doesn't give you the data on WHICH aura changed |
| 18:54.17 | KarlKFI | so you'll have to loop the buffs |
| 18:54.27 | KarlKFI | to see if slam is there |
| 18:54.34 | NightHawkTheSane | course, you could always use the proper combat log event. |
| 18:54.39 | KarlKFI | or that |
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| 18:55.11 | Jelly-Class | stupid computer |
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| 18:55.49 | IronMountain | and that would be "you gain slam!" (or something like that) in combat log ? :P |
| 18:56.12 | KarlKFI | it should give you the name of the spell as one of the arguments |
| 18:56.18 | KarlKFI | there's a wiki page on it |
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| 18:56.38 | NightHawkTheSane | signs the universe just imploded in an orgy of awesomeness: John Gruber links to Neil Gaiman. :o |
| 18:56.43 | KarlKFI | ~wowwiki COMBAT_LOG_EVENT |
| 18:56.44 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/COMBAT_LOG_EVENT |
| 18:58.03 | IronMountain | ty, ill try to figure it out =) |
| 18:58.57 | Lunessa | Who is John Gruber? |
| 18:59.13 | Lopeppeppy | "ooh.. me sir, Ed Gruberman!" |
| 18:59.26 | Lunessa | Peppy - that's what I thought too. :) |
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| 19:00.04 | malreth | John Gruber is my hero |
| 19:00.34 | malreth | i would ravish John Gruber's body with that of my own |
| 19:01.02 | Jelly-Class | ~sexy |
| 19:01.03 | purl | great |
| 19:01.06 | Lunessa | malreth: You would ravish lots of bodies, I've seen you with a few drinks in you. |
| 19:01.09 | Jelly-Class | ~botsnack |
| 19:01.09 | purl | thanks, Jelly-Class |
| 19:02.04 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah. How about that local sports team, there? |
| 19:02.27 | Lunessa | ... With all the people you have to choose from, you'd lick me? Seriously, man I question your judgement. |
| 19:02.40 | malreth | i.. |
| 19:02.43 | malreth | i was weak |
| 19:03.16 | Lunessa | I thought so. |
| 19:03.28 | mikma | whee, High Tinker infected :D |
| 19:03.29 | KarlKFI | lol |
| 19:03.33 | mikma | let's see what happens now |
| 19:04.00 | mikma | unless some nutsack will dispel it |
| 19:04.17 | KarlKFI | :D i was definitely dispelling everyone i could find yesterday |
| 19:04.33 | KarlKFI | i got so many nasty whispers lol |
| 19:04.34 | malreth | i was cleansing Goldshire yesterday |
| 19:04.41 | malreth | cleansing it WITH FIRE |
| 19:04.43 | mikma | bah, :( |
| 19:04.50 | Lopeppeppy | I blew them up before they could use their abilities. Consecrete plus wings plus holy hell. :) |
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| 19:05.24 | Jelly-Class | lol |
| 19:05.37 | Lunessa | malreth: That's a good thing. Goldshire; you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. |
| 19:05.38 | KarlKFI | i single handedly extinguished a shattrath ghoul raid |
| 19:06.05 | mikma | you are ruining the event with the cleaning and killing :( |
| 19:06.08 | mikma | that's the best part of it |
| 19:06.16 | mikma | trying to get the disease to IF king too |
| 19:06.25 | KarlKFI | cant |
| 19:06.27 | KarlKFI | immune |
| 19:06.28 | malreth | the best part about it is how it's like Humans vs. Zombies |
| 19:06.35 | smcn | it's the fucking plague, it's supposed to be something you DON'T want to get |
| 19:06.38 | mikma | are you sure he's immune? |
| 19:06.43 | mikma | cause the tinkertown noob wasn't |
| 19:06.48 | KarlKFI | all the capitol leaders are immune |
| 19:07.00 | KarlKFI | but not all the boss elites |
| 19:07.06 | malreth | i pray that Blizzard adds a "I Am Legend" achievement if you make it though the entire event without being turned |
| 19:07.23 | malreth | or getting diseased, or something like that |
| 19:07.25 | Jelly-Class | malreth: that would be so fucking win |
| 19:07.37 | malreth | Yes. It. Would. |
| 19:07.46 | KarlKFI | onyl if you logged in durring that time tho |
| 19:08.06 | KarlKFI | better yet, killed x ghouls |
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| 19:09.07 | foxlit | meh |
| 19:09.16 | foxlit | I am Legend only works if the zombies end up killing you. |
| 19:09.37 | Lopeppeppy | Paladins are immune to the plague, we LEARNED from Ass-Arthas' mistakes, kk? |
| 19:09.51 | Jelly-Class | ...just don't bubble |
| 19:10.02 | smcn | feat of strength~ |
| 19:10.02 | smcn | to the forums! |
| 19:10.56 | Lopeppeppy | Arthas is the king of bubbles! |
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| 19:14.15 | Drakhaon | wonder if Arthas will Bubble and Hearthstone if a raid is about to beat him.. |
| 19:14.31 | selckin | it should be his 'enrage' |
| 19:14.43 | Drakhaon | "Hearthstone in 7m 12s" |
| 19:14.59 | selckin | you need another raid waiting in the inn |
| 19:15.06 | Drakhaon | hehe yea =) |
| 19:15.29 | zenzelezz | In quiet contemplation, Arthas Frostmourns the death of the entire raid group. |
| 19:15.55 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* |
| 19:16.04 | Jelly-Class | I'd much rather that than him enrage and beat our asses. |
| 19:16.15 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, me too. Bring out some serious Retribution smackdown. |
| 19:16.26 | Industrial | OPADIN |
| 19:16.30 | Industrial | go awai |
| 19:16.31 | Industrial | :P |
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| 19:17.03 | Jelly-Class | Hey! I'm not ret! |
| 19:17.08 | Jelly-Class | Blame Peppy! |
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| 19:18.07 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, your poor decisions are my fault now? *chortle* I can roll with that. |
| 19:18.08 | KarlKFI | You won't like me when I'm angry. |
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| 19:23.07 | Jelly-Class | My poor decisions? We'll see who's laughing at 80 and nerfed! /snicker |
| 19:23.28 | NightHawkTheSane | >.> |
| 19:23.37 | NightHawkTheSane | is anyone else a little disturbed by this: http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/26374/wowaceupdater |
| 19:23.41 | NightHawkTheSane | (check the updated on date) |
| 19:24.41 | zenzelezz | I bet the Arthas fight will end quite spectacularly... his unto now unknown son will knock his helm of, magically redeeming him - Darth Vader style |
| 19:25.03 | zenzelezz | until |
| 19:26.46 | Adys | I need an advice |
| 19:27.14 | Codex| | take the blue pill |
| 19:27.16 | Jelly-Class | 42 |
| 19:27.18 | Adys | awesome, gonna do that |
| 19:27.23 | zenzelezz | Adys: plenty of lube |
| 19:27.25 | Jelly-Class | FORTY-TWO |
| 19:27.35 | foxlit | Adys: give it up, let it down, run around, and desert it. |
| 19:27.36 | Adys | I need to choose a video card.. either 9800 or 8800 gtx, or gtx260 |
| 19:27.43 | linear` | gtx260 |
| 19:27.45 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: win |
| 19:27.50 | Adys | Im under linux though and I dont know about the 260 support |
| 19:27.52 | Codex| | get a 3x gtx280 system |
| 19:27.53 | Codex| | :) |
| 19:27.59 | KarlKFI | I was kind hoping i could pull his helmet off and put it on myself and become the bad guy for WoW 2 |
| 19:28.29 | foxlit | You know who'll subcontract for the arthas kill? |
| 19:28.32 | foxlit | Kil'jaeden. |
| 19:28.49 | Lopeppeppy | Illidan |
| 19:29.01 | KarlKFI | both dead? |
| 19:29.08 | foxlit | He just needs another expansion cycle to get his butt back onto azeroth |
| 19:29.16 | Adys | What Im actually wondering is if the 260 is worth buying over a 8800gtx |
| 19:29.40 | NightHawkTheSane | KarlKFI: well we thought illidan was dead after TFT, but apparently not |
| 19:29.45 | foxlit | Kil just fell down through a well |
| 19:29.58 | KarlKFI | 8800 is a decent card, but it's not 'new' |
| 19:30.00 | foxlit | So "defeated" might be more appropriate |
| 19:30.32 | Jelly-Class | I wanna pull Peppy's helmet off and dance on her bubble. |
| 19:30.41 | Lopeppeppy | Adys, if there's not support, is it worth buying? |
| 19:30.45 | foxlit | (As for Illidan, Netc---Maiev confirms it) |
| 19:30.50 | Lopeppeppy | Jelly-dear.... no comment? |
| 19:30.54 | Adys | Lopeppeppy: Yeah pretty much |
| 19:31.14 | Jelly-Class | What am I supposed to comment on? |
| 19:31.29 | Lopeppeppy | No... I am the one carefully not commenting! :P |
| 19:31.29 | KarlKFI | 8800 is a good price tho |
| 19:31.41 | KarlKFI | i wouldn't get much above an 8800 unless you want the HD 4600 |
| 19:32.22 | Adys | here the gtx is 90 euros more expensive |
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| 19:33.12 | zenzelezz | woot, one warlock in the raid and he SSes the moonkin. "Thought you were resto still" :-p |
| 19:33.14 | malreth | is 'bubble' a euphemism for something |
| 19:33.28 | malreth | i knew a girl once who would call 'it' her 'snoopy' |
| 19:33.31 | Adys | also, atm I got a 8600 gts, so if the 8800/9800 isnt a "big" upgrade Im not buying it |
| 19:33.34 | mikma | malreth: lol |
| 19:33.49 | Lopeppeppy | malreth... dinnae think you'll survive if you keep going there. :) |
| 19:34.13 | KarlKFI | don't buy the 260 |
| 19:34.47 | Jelly-Class | ~snicker |
| 19:34.50 | KarlKFI | it's crap compared to the high end ATI cards that actually cost less |
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| 19:35.46 | mikma | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info11357-CRaid.html |
| 19:35.49 | mikma | wait, what? |
| 19:35.50 | Adys | ATI can die, under linux :p |
| 19:36.11 | Drakhaon | is it possible to put the addon I make on a website so it gets added to say WoWMatrix? |
| 19:36.54 | Lopeppeppy | *sigh* |
| 19:37.14 | Lopeppeppy | WowMatrix is not an addon site, you can't "add" anything to it at all. They go steal your bandwidth themselves if they choose to. |
| 19:37.33 | Lopeppeppy | Post your addon to a reputable site, like WoWInterface or Curse Gaming. |
| 19:38.01 | Jelly-Class | mikma: I wanna see a 25-man healer use that! |
| 19:38.11 | mikma | jelly-class: http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw19441.jpg |
| 19:38.16 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah... blind much? |
| 19:38.23 | malreth | it would make more sense if it were larger, perhaps |
| 19:38.34 | malreth | pie menus have been researched quite a bit |
| 19:38.37 | Lopeppeppy | Freakin tiny. Bigger would take a lot of screen real estate. |
| 19:38.45 | KarlKFI | the 9800GTX has gotten pretty good reviews. I'd say get that over purchasing an 8800 |
| 19:38.59 | malreth | the advantage of a pie layout only comes into play as the targets become larger |
| 19:39.06 | malreth | Fitz's law, you know |
| 19:39.25 | Adys | KarlKFI: good upgrade above 8600gts ? |
| 19:39.26 | malreth | and yes, this is one of those times where i'm actually being serious |
| 19:39.31 | Lunessa | KarlKFI: I'm happy with my 8800 - it performs quiet well. If I could afford a second one right now, I'd SLI it. :) |
| 19:39.32 | KarlKFI | but if you need a high end nvidia card i would say just wait until their next revision, because the 260's reviews are crap |
| 19:39.44 | KarlKFI | I have an 8800GT atm |
| 19:40.17 | malreth | the example of the 5-man party is a good example |
| 19:40.19 | KarlKFI | i get about 2-30 fps with all settings maxed in wow with 50-100 addons |
| 19:40.23 | KarlKFI | 20-30 |
| 19:40.26 | malreth | http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw19439.jpg |
| 19:40.56 | Jelly-Class | mikma: I meant an actual raid. pvp doesn't count imo. (looks like pvp but I can't maximize it for whatever reason) |
| 19:40.57 | KarlKFI | but if you really want to upgrade your card i'd say spend the extra $50 on the 9800GTX |
| 19:41.11 | KarlKFI | but NOT the extra $200 on the 260 |
| 19:41.14 | mikma | jelly-class: that's because the image is small |
| 19:41.41 | KarlKFI | and i dunno about the 8600, that's really a consumer card, not a gaming card |
| 19:41.48 | Jelly-Class | that would explain it. i wasn't really worried about it considering my teacher is racing through slides |
| 19:42.07 | |pez| | Once upon a time there was a addon that allowed me to automatically sell grey items by the click of a button... anyone remember what it was named? |
| 19:42.15 | KarlKFI | oh i have that... |
| 19:42.27 | KarlKFI | fav on wowi, sec |
| 19:42.40 | kneeki | |pez|: Minimalist |
| 19:42.50 | |pez| | I want the addon, cause I can never spot all the greys in my inventory. |
| 19:42.51 | KarlKFI | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8223-Scrap.html |
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| 19:42.58 | kneeki | auto sells al grey items in your inventory when you got o a vendor |
| 19:43.04 | |pez| | (yes, I collect greys, cause... some of them are worth a neat sym of money) |
| 19:43.11 | KarlKFI | scrap is not auto |
| 19:43.17 | KarlKFI | but click to sell-all |
| 19:43.22 | kneeki | Minimalist is auto |
| 19:43.31 | KarlKFI | and you can specify specific items to be scrapped before you get to a vendor |
| 19:43.45 | mikma | |pez|: http://tekkub.net/addons/tekJunkSeller |
| 19:43.51 | |pez| | Ah, thanks all! :D |
| 19:44.16 | |pez| | Oh, I should also get some sort of thing that tells me what the loot is worth.. |
| 19:44.25 | malreth | SellFish |
| 19:44.30 | |pez| | so I can scrap items with less worth. |
| 19:44.47 | mikma | SellFish + tekJunkSeller = <3 |
| 19:44.59 | |pez| | thanks guys ^^ |
| 19:45.33 | Lopeppeppy | I've used SellFish very thoroughly before. |
| 19:45.37 | Jelly-Class | ~hug Cairenn |
| 19:45.38 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Cairenn |
| 19:45.40 | KarlKFI | Adys: when did you get your 8600gts and why? |
| 19:46.05 | Adys | uh almost 2 years ago, because back then the 8800 was horribly expensive and I needed a card relatively quickly |
| 19:46.52 | KarlKFI | the *600 cards have historically been laptop and consumer cards |
| 19:47.07 | KarlKFI | the *800's were the gaming cards |
| 19:47.26 | Adys | well it let me run wow for two years at max settings |
| 19:47.30 | KarlKFI | i'd say the 9800GTX would be a good upgrade from 8600 |
| 19:47.31 | Adys | so ive been happy |
| 19:47.44 | Adys | but since wotlk its gone awful |
| 19:47.46 | erikd | i love my 8800gt's |
| 19:48.01 | KarlKFI | 9800GTX will definitely let you run wotlk for 2 yeahs on max settings |
| 19:48.14 | kd3 | yea... but how much are 9800s? |
| 19:48.20 | KarlKFI | $200 |
| 19:48.20 | Adys | 175 here |
| 19:48.21 | Adys | euros |
| 19:48.37 | KarlKFI | it's the mid range gamer card |
| 19:48.44 | KarlKFI | high end are usually $400 |
| 19:49.15 | Shane|Work | I have two 8800GTs that can be had for ~$130 USD, and I get ~60fps in i.e. Zangarmash with the slider maxed at 1680x1050 8xAA |
| 19:49.23 | Shane|Work | no vsync |
| 19:49.26 | KarlKFI | $130 on sale |
| 19:49.32 | KarlKFI | each |
| 19:49.40 | Shane|Work | not on sale, but yes, each |
| 19:49.47 | Shane|Work | even one still gets me ~45fps |
| 19:50.08 | |pez| | auctioneer works with the newest patch and wotlk, riight? |
| 19:50.14 | KarlKFI | yeah, my single 8800GT is powering a 30" and a 20" and i get 20-30 |
| 19:50.24 | KarlKFI | fps |
| 19:50.28 | Shane|Work | |pez|: it's been patched, yes, works great for me |
| 19:50.40 | |pez| | Shane|Work: woo, thanks. |
| 19:50.49 | KarlKFI | but i assume we both have vsync on |
| 19:50.59 | malreth | http://www.dieselsweeties.com/archive/2131 |
| 19:51.01 | KarlKFI | which caps yours at 60 and mine at 30 |
| 19:51.10 | Shane|Work | KarlKFI: I just said no vsync actually |
| 19:51.33 | Shane|Work | KarlKFI: it spikes as high as 130 in low-poly parts of outlands and in classic continents |
| 19:51.48 | KarlKFI | sure w/o vsync |
| 19:51.51 | Shane|Work | right |
| 19:51.58 | Adys | I systematically got 20 fps lower in outland than enarly everywhere in EK/Kalimdor |
| 19:52.06 | KarlKFI | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:52.15 | KarlKFI | and it looks terrible |
| 19:52.36 | KarlKFI | but that means it quantizes and caps fps at 30 |
| 19:52.57 | NeoTron | don't you just hate when you're scrolled up and don't realize people have been talking |
| 19:53.03 | Shane|Work | Adys: that's pretty typical i hear |
| 19:53.22 | Dewin | Yay I don't have to drive to Seattle |
| 19:53.42 | NeoTron | Shane|Work: my FPS is a lot lower and I have the same graphics card. The main issue for me is CPU not GPU |
| 19:54.17 | NeoTron | upgrading from a 7800 GLX didn't gain me more than like 5 fps in real situations if that |
| 19:54.37 | KarlKFI | yeah, that's onyl a 1 generation upgrade |
| 19:54.51 | KarlKFI | never a good idea |
| 19:54.52 | Shane|Work | NeoTron: that sucks! |
| 19:55.09 | Shane|Work | KarlKFI: yes, but 90% of the 9-series isn't even a generation upgrade from the 8800gt. same chipset. |
| 19:55.40 | KarlKFI | that's because nvidia has been being retarted since 8800 and have let ATI become the king again |
| 19:56.48 | NeoTron | KarlKFI: nah the gfx card is A LOT faster |
| 19:56.52 | NeoTron | significantly so |
| 19:56.59 | NeoTron | but I'm CPU bound for the most part so it doesn't matter |
| 19:57.15 | NeoTron | other 3d apps notice gains much more significant |
| 19:57.17 | KarlKFI | upgrade your bottleneck, gamer rule number 1 |
| 19:57.41 | NeoTron | I upgraded the only component I could upgrade without upgrading the computer |
| 19:57.51 | NeoTron | naturally I was not aware at the time that the effect would be minimal |
| 19:58.04 | KarlKFI | mmm, yeah usually a good time to save for a new computer :) |
| 19:58.13 | NeoTron | can't just upgrade the CPU |
| 19:58.23 | NeoTron | I'll likely get a new one in ~1-2 months |
| 19:58.33 | NeoTron | which makes my current box over 3 yrs old |
| 19:58.44 | NeoTron | well it's already over 3 yrs old |
| 19:59.24 | zenzelezz | lol, http://www.gucomics.com/archives/view.php?cdate=20081023 |
| 19:59.48 | KarlKFI | mine's 2 years old. I had to buy the 8800GT because my X1900 XT had an overheating problem that didn't develop until the warentee expired, then i milked it for another 6 months. |
| 20:00.27 | kamdis | I would just like to thank and give appreciation for all the addon authors who are in this channel (and those who aren't), because dealing with people like this http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11676599986&postId=116938991601&sid=1#5 must make you crazy. |
| 20:01.31 | malreth | http://www.picturesforsadchildren.com/index.php?comicID=91 |
| 20:01.34 | Tekkub | we just ignore idiots like that |
| 20:01.40 | kamdis | I sure hope so. |
| 20:02.03 | kamdis | I seriously want to smack the shit out of every QQ auctioneer poster since the patch, and there have been a lot of them. |
| 20:02.04 | KarlKFI | lol "dont introduce an addon if you arent going to follow thru with it and stop after everyone is reliant and addicted to it." |
| 20:02.12 | kamdis | they have no concept of how hard it is. |
| 20:02.33 | kamdis | karlKFI exactly :( |
| 20:02.42 | KarlKFI | oh man i love addicting people to addons and then watchign them suffer through withdrawl! |
| 20:02.58 | KarlKFI | oh wait.... no |
| 20:03.22 | KarlKFI | that rational only works if we get paid drug money |
| 20:03.33 | Jelly-Class | Be back later ... quiz time. I FUCKIN' LOVE QUIZZES! |
| 20:03.34 | NeoTron | I upgraded my auc advanced (had used it before) and was, instead, happily surprised at how much better it had become |
| 20:03.37 | NeoTron | imagine tha |
| 20:03.45 | kamdis | he also thinks he's entitled because he "donated so i paid" |
| 20:03.45 | Lopeppeppy | logging out for the afternoon, see yas! |
| 20:04.00 | kamdis | bye peppy |
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| 20:04.22 | kamdis | oh well |
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| 20:04.31 | kamdis | I just feel for the Auc team. People suck. |
| 20:04.41 | kd3 | oh wow |
| 20:04.47 | kd3 | they upped the baron's mount drop rate |
| 20:04.52 | KarlKFI | srs? |
| 20:04.54 | kd3 | 1/100 |
| 20:04.54 | kamdis | how much? |
| 20:04.56 | KarlKFI | wtb |
| 20:04.57 | kamdis | wow |
| 20:05.01 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11675537865&pageNo=5&sid=1#81 |
| 20:05.08 | NeoTron | used to be 1/5000 apparently, now 1/100 |
| 20:05.14 | NeoTron | I R FARM IT |
| 20:05.22 | KarlKFI | ^^ |
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| 20:05.37 | Tekkub | screw that, I want a ZG tiger |
| 20:05.39 | KarlKFI | i'll just get a healer and we'll 2 man it ez mode |
| 20:06.08 | nevcairiel | you can one man him easy :P |
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| 20:06.29 | KarlKFI | mmm probably true |
| 20:06.42 | KarlKFI | can't 1 man zg tiger tho |
| 20:06.48 | Tekkub | Today's theme song: Miser - [Colors #04] Zombie |
| 20:06.59 | kamdis | Tekkub me too |
| 20:07.09 | alestane | I dropped the baron yesterday morning. Don't know if any class could do it but it wasn't hard. |
| 20:07.25 | kamdis | back when ZG was the big thing my guild saw 4 somehow and I was there for 3 and always lost. |
| 20:07.27 | KarlKFI | class? |
| 20:08.24 | |pez| | i want a spectrual tiger! ... |
| 20:08.32 | |pez| | And a black or red protos drake. |
| 20:09.10 | IronMountain | what's the difference between sab:OnLoad() and sab_Onload() ? |
| 20:09.20 | kamdis | And we saw one ZG raptor, that went to a TROLL |
| 20:09.25 | kamdis | wtf is with that? |
| 20:09.27 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 20:09.34 | |pez| | ... hahaaa |
| 20:09.36 | Tekkub | o/~ in your he~ead, Zombie! Zombie! Zombie! o/~ |
| 20:09.37 | kamdis | can you tell i'm still bitter years later? |
| 20:09.38 | kamdis | lol |
| 20:10.22 | Dewin | tusked troll or forum troll? |
| 20:11.40 | malreth | IronMountain: the first one calls a method on the object 'sab'. the second one is calling a function named 'sab_Onload' |
| 20:11.41 | foxlit | Hah, awesome |
| 20:11.49 | foxlit | I got the Typhoon graphics effect twice in 2 seconds |
| 20:11.55 | foxlit | But then the server disconnected me :/ |
| 20:12.05 | foxlit | (Typhoon has a 20s cooldown) |
| 20:12.20 | nevcairiel | alot of EU servers have funny breakdowns right now :/ |
| 20:12.37 | foxlit | yeah, looks that way |
| 20:13.02 | foxlit | In unrelated news, addon comments have been eerily silent since the initial storm of 3.0 |
| 20:13.31 | NeoTron | I was going to farm the baron s mount on my DK |
| 20:13.37 | NeoTron | now I'll probably do it on my paladin first |
| 20:13.44 | foxlit | What's the point, really? |
| 20:14.01 | foxlit | Your deathcharger is as, if not more, awesome. |
| 20:14.16 | KarlKFI | it's a game, there is no point |
| 20:14.26 | foxlit | farming isn't a game, though |
| 20:14.35 | KarlKFI | good point |
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| 20:18.07 | NeoTron | the DK one is dorky looking |
| 20:18.16 | NeoTron | looks like you're riding something that's on wheels |
| 20:18.41 | NeoTron | and my pally doesn't haev a cool mount at all, just a normal alliance horse |
| 20:18.57 | KarlKFI | no charger? |
| 20:19.06 | NeoTron | no |
| 20:19.09 | KarlKFI | fail |
| 20:19.13 | KarlKFI | charger ftw |
| 20:19.14 | NeoTron | cheaper and heck of a lot easier to buy a horse |
| 20:19.22 | Drakhaon | NeoTron > my DK will be tauren and an engineer - cant get more cool than that |
| 20:19.32 | KarlKFI | game is abotu fun. do the quest chain :P |
| 20:19.55 | NeoTron | KarlKFI: it's ot really fun... I got as far as collecting the arcanite though, way after buying the epic mount |
| 20:20.23 | KarlKFI | you can solo scholo and dm at 70 |
| 20:20.48 | KarlKFI | faster than farming a deathcharger |
| 20:21.11 | kamdis | Dewin: troll as in race, as in she already had an epic raptor. |
| 20:21.29 | NeoTron | KarlKFI: ofc the deathcharger is heck of a lot cooler |
| 20:21.47 | NeoTron | KarlKFI: the pally charger is like a stink horse unicorn thing |
| 20:22.10 | Tekkub | horses suck, end of discussion |
| 20:22.41 | KarlKFI | that's why i finally finished my kitty rep :) |
| 20:22.52 | Tekkub | exactly, the only good ally mount |
| 20:23.03 | zenzelezz | so I hear they increased the drop rate on the Deathcharger by a lot in 3.0 |
| 20:23.08 | NeoTron | already have a pvp cat on my pally |
| 20:23.09 | KarlKFI | 1/100 |
| 20:23.12 | NightHawkTheSane | i actually like the rams.. |
| 20:23.19 | kneeki | Horde should be able to do Witnersaber mount =( |
| 20:23.26 | KarlKFI | you dont like the gnome chickans? |
| 20:24.23 | KarlKFI | is there even a way to get exalted with gnomes w/o grinding AV turn ins? or can you even do that any more |
| 20:24.42 | NightHawkTheSane | runecloth turnin? |
| 20:24.49 | KarlKFI | ahh, right |
| 20:24.51 | zenzelezz | Gnomeregan? |
| 20:24.59 | KarlKFI | stops giving rep doesn't it? |
| 20:25.06 | zenzelezz | they're easy enough if you're just willing to quest |
| 20:25.19 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 20:25.34 | NightHawkTheSane | i got exalted on horde reps pretty easily by just doign a lot of the starting quests |
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| 20:34.38 | zenzelezz | so my realm seems to have fucked up bad again, 15 minutes+ of nothing working at all except the chat... and yet no sign of mass disconnects or server admins rebooting the thing |
| 20:35.28 | nevcairiel | its not only your realm |
| 20:35.33 | nevcairiel | alot of EU realms hit that |
| 20:36.14 | zenzelezz | for crying out loud, what did they do to them lately? It's been going up and down since the patch |
| 20:37.28 | keias | Same with mine. |
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| 20:37.38 | KarlKFI | it was a HUGE patch. that's what happens |
| 20:38.10 | zenzelezz | some problems yes; but this is worse than before |
| 20:39.00 | NeoTron | a large part of the problems isn't technical I believe |
| 20:39.07 | NeoTron | but simply due to an amazing increase in server load |
| 20:39.14 | NeoTron | and especially things like excessive instancing |
| 20:39.31 | bleeter | meh, would seem to me at least from a player perspective, that a lot of the 'issues' are similar if not the same as what oceanics had with 2.4.0 |
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| 20:40.10 | bleeter | took them 6 months to tune the oceanic servers to a usable state, wouldn't be surprised if the 3.0 update undid a lot of that tuning etc. |
| 20:40.21 | bleeter | hitting all realms |
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| 20:40.56 | bleeter | on a different note, M$ Windows Update servers seem to be hainvg zombie like issues delivering this out-of-sequence patch, but it will work eventually |
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| 20:43.48 | malreth | bleeter: i've given up on Windows Update and our WSUS servers |
| 20:43.53 | malreth | i'm applying it manually |
| 20:44.08 | cogwheel | ~failrik |
| 20:44.08 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 20:44.18 | Shirik|Ecole | :( |
| 20:44.22 | Lunessa | Headless Horseman event last year caused the same sort of trouble. |
| 20:44.52 | KarlKFI | it's everyone playing SM, it's meant for smaller usage ;) |
| 20:45.51 | KarlKFI | i bet the instance creation code for SM was never optimized based on what they've learned from Arena instance recycling |
| 20:46.18 | NeoTron | KarlKFI: not just that though, all achievement runs people do with 1-2 people clears of old instances |
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| 20:46.45 | Lunessa | I suspect you're correct. The even itself got tweaked, but it doesn't appear the instance server was ever load-balanced for the event. |
| 20:46.48 | foxlit | Wonder when we'll get some talent points through quests on normal characters |
| 20:46.50 | KarlKFI | sure, none of the old instances have been optimized since arenas where |
| 20:46.52 | KarlKFI | were* |
| 20:47.10 | cogwheel | foxlit: never? |
| 20:47.21 | Shane|Work | foxlit: that depends on regular toons starting at 55 with 0 talent points |
| 20:47.24 | foxlit | cogwheel: bad assumption |
| 20:47.42 | KarlKFI | what, like D2? |
| 20:47.53 | cogwheel | why bad? talent points are based strictly on your level |
| 20:48.08 | foxlit | There's no real argument for why they should be |
| 20:48.11 | cogwheel | the only reason death knights get them via quests is 'cause they have a 55 level head start |
| 20:48.31 | foxlit | Currently, they're based on level. There's no reason not to add more character progression at max level. |
| 20:48.36 | NightHawkTheSane | cogwheel: the only reason they're based strictly on level is because so far thats been the only way to acquire them |
| 20:49.14 | NightHawkTheSane | But, that said, I kinda agree that its unlikely we'll see talent points as quest rewards for general characters |
| 20:49.20 | foxlit | surely the other way around? |
| 20:49.30 | NightHawkTheSane | if they do that, it almost makes those quests -required- because talent points are too vastly useful |
| 20:49.38 | cogwheel | the more levels we have, the smaller the percentage of untrainable talents |
| 20:49.41 | foxlit | Expansions add more talents than talent points |
| 20:49.42 | NeoTron | remember the AQ20 extra spells? |
| 20:49.51 | NightHawkTheSane | And I don't think blizzard really wants to make any quest a MUST-DO |
| 20:50.15 | KarlKFI | yeah they make those spells default pretty quick |
| 20:50.16 | cogwheel | the more points you're able to place also removes distinction between builds |
| 20:50.23 | cogwheel | which they're pretty keen on maintaining |
| 20:50.37 | NeoTron | and 21/51 is quite different from 20/51 or 21/50 in many cases |
| 20:50.39 | KarlKFI | cause they imbalenced pvp for pve raiders |
| 20:50.50 | NeoTron | so eevn 1 point can have huge balance implications |
| 20:51.05 | NightHawkTheSane | cogwheel: well, i agree, but it'd be nice to see maybe one expansion that bumped level cap without adding new talents, allowing us to expand breadth-wise instead of depth-wise. |
| 20:51.06 | foxlit | cog: at 70, 61 talent points to spend in 41-tp depth trees |
| 20:51.41 | cogwheel | but they've already hinted at dual specs |
| 20:51.48 | NightHawkTheSane | I think 5-10 extra points that I don't HAVE to drop in the "new" bottom end of my tree would be really nice |
| 20:51.56 | foxlit | at 1000, 991 talent points to spend in 971-tp depth trees |
| 20:52.22 | foxlit | If anything, that makes the distinction unbearably large :) |
| 20:53.05 | cogwheel | at that point, they'll probably start adding fewer tiers per level |
| 20:53.11 | foxlit | (not that it's going to survive to level 1000, but the point still stands) |
| 20:53.18 | foxlit | Or giving you more talent points per level? |
| 20:53.52 | cogwheel | nah... |
| 20:54.15 | cogwheel | then you'll end up inflating the amount of abilites each class has to deal with... unless you do all boring stat talents |
| 20:54.34 | NightHawkTheSane | cogwheel: thats going to become an issue anyway at some point |
| 20:54.56 | NightHawkTheSane | as long as they keep adding new spells. They've at least admitted they're aware of the issue, though.. |
| 20:56.17 | NeoTron | I can't imagine a world where the max level is 1000 |
| 20:56.34 | NightHawkTheSane | why not? it's really just an arbitrary number. |
| 20:56.53 | NeoTron | too much content overload |
| 20:57.08 | NightHawkTheSane | well, there are far worse things for a game than too much content. |
| 20:57.11 | IronMountain | mhh, whats wrong with "if ( type == "AURA_APPLIED" ) then" im just getting error: "Slam-1.01\Slam.lua:11: 'then' expected near 'if'" =( |
| 20:57.18 | NeoTron | imagine rerolling |
| 20:57.33 | NeoTron | "np guys, I'm rolling a priest - should be done leveling in a year!" |
| 20:57.51 | cogwheel | make that 10 years... |
| 20:57.56 | mikma | really, where are the pvp dailies? |
| 20:57.59 | cogwheel | took me a full year to get my first 60 :P |
| 20:58.00 | NightHawkTheSane | well, presumably at that point they may have done something to address that. :P |
| 20:58.03 | NeoTron | mainly though since we get 10 levels per 2 years...I'd be long dead |
| 20:58.32 | foxlit | meh, just means more talents will alter spell behavior rather than add new spells |
| 20:59.06 | NeoTron | 184 years until max level is 1000 at the going rate. |
| 20:59.32 | NeoTron | I'd be surprised if we'd ever go beyond, say, level 120 or so |
| 21:00.00 | cogwheel | By then, Top Secret "Next-Gen MMO" might be ready :P |
| 21:00.02 | NeoTron | I know it's highly unlikely I'll be playing WoW in 8 yrs |
| 21:00.33 | Shirik|Ecole | IronMountain: I would paste your code |
| 21:00.38 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't think you've given us enough information |
| 21:00.44 | NightHawkTheSane | i think it's unlikely any of will be playing in 5, but i'm a cynic |
| 21:00.54 | cogwheel | unless they're going with a new franchise, my money's on Universe of Starcraft ;) |
| 21:00.56 | NightHawkTheSane | IronMountain: he doesn't mean paste in here. pastey.net please. :) |
| 21:01.26 | NightHawkTheSane | cogwheel: that would be -hot-, but at the same time, I'd like to see some new IP from blizzard. |
| 21:01.27 | NeoTron | cogwheel: that was always my guess since before SC2 was announced |
| 21:01.42 | NeoTron | but they hinted it's a new franchise... and in many ways it's hard to imagine SC2 as an MMO |
| 21:01.55 | NeoTron | the three current races don't exactly make for a good and balanced tri-faction game |
| 21:02.04 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: no harder than it was to imagine wc3 as an mmo, i think |
| 21:02.17 | NeoTron | NightHawkTheSane: I disagree |
| 21:02.24 | NeoTron | I mean classes obviously didn't translate straight |
| 21:02.48 | NeoTron | but it's much easier to imagine the wow-races are equals than the protoss, human and especially the zerg |
| 21:02.56 | NightHawkTheSane | kneeki: nah, almost no chance of that |
| 21:03.00 | kneeki | bah |
| 21:03.05 | NightHawkTheSane | diablo by itself is too close to an mmo to make it worth it |
| 21:03.35 | IronMountain | Shirik http://pastey.net/99363 |
| 21:03.50 | Shirik|Ecole | IronMountain: See the highlighted line? |
| 21:03.51 | IronMountain | ;p, never even tried to do wow addon so :(, it might be abit messy ^^ |
| 21:03.53 | Shirik|Ecole | That's a suggestion |
| 21:04.00 | Shirik|Ecole | look at line 10 |
| 21:04.05 | Shirik|Ecole | then re-read your error message |
| 21:04.25 | Lunessa | cogwheel: *cough* update the guide! *cough* |
| 21:04.33 | bleeter | bah, where's iriel when I wanna show him some serious kickarse photography http://vimeo.com/1831024 |
| 21:04.58 | bleeter | tilt-shift videography of Sydney |
| 21:04.59 | cogwheel | Lunessa: NO U! |
| 21:05.02 | cogwheel | <.< |
| 21:05.03 | NightHawkTheSane | IronMountain: here's a tip, if an error message indicates a particular line number, but you don't see anything wrong with that line, look at the lines preceding it. :) |
| 21:05.05 | cogwheel | >.> |
| 21:05.12 | Lunessa | I can't edit your text, yo! |
| 21:05.35 | kneeki | if ( event == "COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED" ) then |
| 21:05.36 | malreth | bleeter: i'm an amateur photog... you can share kickarse photography with me |
| 21:06.00 | Shirik|Ecole | kneeki... you are bad |
| 21:06.03 | bleeter | malreth: check that video, and others by the same guy. you'll be a little stunned ;) |
| 21:06.09 | *** part/#wowuidev Shane|Work (n=mellerfa@64-199-29-162.ip.mcleodusa.net) |
| 21:06.11 | kneeki | ? |
| 21:06.17 | bleeter | malreth: if you're not stunned by it.. I'll do something special for you |
| 21:06.22 | kneeki | Did I spoil it? |
| 21:06.27 | malreth | bleeter: naw... i'm too good for silly parlour tricks like tilt-shift |
| 21:06.34 | Shirik|Ecole | Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime. |
| 21:06.55 | bleeter | malreth: tilt shift + time lapse = win tho, take a look ;) |
| 21:06.58 | NightHawkTheSane | ~lart kneeki |
| 21:06.58 | purl | whacks kneeki with the cluebat |
| 21:07.07 | NightHawkTheSane | .. oddly appropriate. |
| 21:07.09 | kneeki | I didn't realize you were teaching. I just clicked the link and saw the error. Didn't read any IRC before that =p |
| 21:07.12 | kneeki | lol |
| 21:07.14 | malreth | i haven't seen this one tho |
| 21:07.45 | NightHawkTheSane | kneeki: everything is teaching. :D |
| 21:08.10 | malreth | i've seen timelapse tilt-shift videos... this one is better done, tho |
| 21:08.15 | malreth | i think it's the choice of music |
| 21:08.24 | malreth | and that it's sped up |
| 21:08.44 | bleeter | yeah, he's going for the 'toy town' effect, works pretty darn well I think |
| 21:08.46 | malreth | sorry... that sounded wierd |
| 21:08.53 | malreth | i've seen tilt-shift video before |
| 21:09.00 | malreth | not timelapse tilt-shift video |
| 21:09.02 | malreth | there |
| 21:10.18 | IronMountain | thanks for helping :), i guess i should read abit more guides before trying to make own addon ^^ |
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| 21:10.32 | cogwheel | ~wowprogramming |
| 21:10.33 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons (http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob) a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 21:10.39 | cogwheel | ;) |
| 21:10.42 | NightHawkTheSane | ~pil |
| 21:10.43 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 21:11.21 | NightHawkTheSane | IronMountain: really, though, there's few things better for learning than just jumping in and trying. you just need to be prepared to do a lot of reading :) |
| 21:11.34 | IronMountain | ^^ |
| 21:11.45 | bleeter | btw, whoever moved the Silvermoon mailbox closer to the AH & Vendors, I <3 U |
| 21:12.12 | IronMountain | btw, is there any way to get that coloring thingie (no, i don't whats that called, that thing that colors your tags ;p) to JCreator ? :P |
| 21:12.15 | NightHawkTheSane | bleeter: what, the one that used to be RIGHT NEXT TO THE DAMN BANK?!?! |
| 21:12.16 | malreth | bleeter, that was me |
| 21:12.19 | NightHawkTheSane | bleeter: i hate that person. |
| 21:12.29 | malreth | i hit it with my BMW when taking a corner |
| 21:12.31 | IronMountain | atm it shows for xml files etc but it doesn't show it on .lua files =( |
| 21:12.40 | malreth | so i put it back, but i guess in the wrong place |
| 21:12.49 | NeoTron | bleeter: no, clearly, that was me |
| 21:13.00 | bleeter | NightHawkTheSane: all I do is buy stuff from the AH to vendor it (idiots listing less than vendor price) so it's awesome for me ;) |
| 21:13.27 | NightHawkTheSane | bleeter: my bank/ah alt is stationed in silvermoon, so its a real pain in the ass when i want to do bank<->mailbox |
| 21:13.29 | NeoTron | bleeter: do people really do that? |
| 21:13.34 | NeoTron | sell stuff <vendor price? |
| 21:13.38 | bleeter | yes |
| 21:13.43 | bleeter | a lot more than one would think |
| 21:13.45 | Gnarfoz | did something change in 3.0 wrt to GOSSIP_SHOW? |
| 21:13.54 | bleeter | high drop rate 'junk mats' feature heavily, eg wicked claws |
| 21:13.57 | NeoTron | what is your weekly AHidiot income? :P |
| 21:13.57 | malreth | yep... bottom scanner would catch stuff like that all the time |
| 21:14.14 | bleeter | the same items turn up on nearly all realms, I think it's high drop rates and low usabilioty forces prices below vendors |
| 21:14.42 | NightHawkTheSane | does anyone remember when wicked claws were wicked expensive >.> |
| 21:14.52 | bleeter | NeoTron: if I push it, I can clear 100g a week while playing on my primary account. Not much, but it all adds up (and it's a very easy thing to 'dual box' with) |
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| 21:15.08 | bleeter | of course, dependant on AH size and turnover too |
| 21:15.36 | bleeter | but yes, A LOT of idiots list for less than vendor |
| 21:16.03 | bleeter | they'll just markdown the current low price without checking the vendor price... MORONS!! |
| 21:16.04 | Lenari | has anyone yet discovered any limitations on the 3.0 calendar storage yet (not the per event size but the total number of events)? |
| 21:16.17 | bleeter | actually, no.. .not morons. that's all celar no damage no cost profit. SMARTIES!! |
| 21:16.26 | bleeter | *clear |
| 21:16.59 | |Jelly| | Could someone more economic savvy please PM me? <3 I need to ask you a couple questions. (WoW economy, not RL :P ) |
| 21:17.56 | bleeter | |Jelly|: before trying to understand WoW Economy, take a bunch of LSD tabs. Not saying I've tried, but I suspect it'd be easier to comprehend ;) |
| 21:18.00 | NeoTron | |Jelly|: truth is same in wow as in RL - there more money you have the easier it is to make money! |
| 21:18.09 | cladhaire | |Jelly|: Do you mind asking here? I'll help as much as I can |
| 21:18.25 | NightHawkTheSane | |Jelly|: if you ask in here, the rest of us plebs can learn too :D |
| 21:18.29 | malreth | AD admins just pushed out a policy change. all clients will now check for updates every 4 hours instead of the default 22. everything should be autopatched by 3 am tomorrow now. |
| 21:18.31 | bleeter | |Jelly|: yeah, feel free to ask here, I'll give it a shot in all seriousness |
| 21:18.46 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11676599986&sid=1&pageNo=2 regarding this assclown (not Kamdis, the OP) |
| 21:18.47 | NeoTron | my personal wealth went from hovering around 1000g... to a lot more through jewelcrafting (ore => prospect => cut => vendor) |
| 21:19.08 | kamdis | that's okay |Jelly| I know I'm probably just fueling his clown-ness. |
| 21:19.11 | |Jelly| | What in the HELL is he going on about? AA is giving me a "mean" for the auctions. Mean still means average, right? |
| 21:19.16 | kamdis | by which I'm making myself an ass clown |
| 21:19.21 | Lunessa | Worth reading: http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/16-11/pl_brown |
| 21:19.40 | malreth | mean is average, yes |
| 21:20.44 | |Jelly| | Ok so I just completely deleted AA (not my saved variables) and reinstalled, enabling all the tooltip options I could find. http://i38.tinypic.com/1498km9.jpg Does that not show both mean and market price? Maybe I'm reading it incorrectly? |
| 21:23.17 | malreth | the StdDev module takes the average of all prices on the AH for that item that are within one standard deviation from the mean, i believe |
| 21:23.20 | bleeter | |Jelly|: to be fair, I don't go much into the selling of foo (see above comments), but yeah that guy as far as I can tell, needs to learn to read |
| 21:23.53 | malreth | that guy in that thread is an idiot and will never like AA no matter if it sucked his cock while massaging his prostate |
| 21:24.06 | |Jelly| | malreth: Isn't that what you would logically want as your "average" in order to remove all the retards that mark things up high to throw off the normal average? |
| 21:24.31 | NeoTron | part of the problem perhaps is that he lost his historical data? |
| 21:24.37 | malreth | |Jelly|: possibly. |
| 21:24.53 | NeoTron | but really it seems he can't figure out how to get any tooltips... |
| 21:24.57 | Lunessa | malreth: Where can I get a copy of AA that does those things? |
| 21:25.16 | |Jelly| | NeoTron: But isn't that a good thing every now and then? I know that since I started using Auctioneer, the prices have fluctuated so much that I'm not even sure that a complete average would be accurate anymore. |
| 21:25.18 | NeoTron | Lunessa: auctioneeraddonxxx.com |
| 21:25.33 | NeoTron | |Jelly|: quite possibly so |
| 21:25.40 | Lunessa | I thought it might be on the new .xxx top-level domain. |
| 21:25.51 | NeoTron | I frankly often just rely on current market snapshots when I post stuff |
| 21:26.03 | |Jelly| | I don't claim to be good with economics, but his whole issue really does, as has been told to me like four times, the OP being just stupid. |
| 21:26.13 | NeoTron | and general knmowledge of prices (when I sell stuff for profit I dop so in a narrow media I am familiar with) |
| 21:26.37 | NeoTron | Lunessa: auctioneeraddon.xxx was already used for an ebay addon. go figure |
| 21:26.38 | Lunessa | Can anyone else using Windows Vista for their WoW box give me a fact-check/once-over: I want to make sure I'm not brain-dead. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6757867106&sid=1 |
| 21:26.44 | kamdis | |Jelly| I honestly believe his problem is that he is still using classic |
| 21:26.56 | kamdis | he doesn't want to upgrade to the 3.0 compliant version |
| 21:27.01 | kamdis | at least, that's what I think |
| 21:27.02 | NeoTron | When the prices are out of whack - at times the gem prices went up like 50% for luittle good reason, I made my listings 24 hr |
| 21:27.31 | NeoTron | to improce my chance of gettinge the profit of the short term jump without too large risk of ah rotting |
| 21:34.40 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11676599986&postId=116965692417&sid=1#25 :: Does he think that makes it so that Norganna /has/ to continue Classic development? |
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| 21:37.09 | NightHawkTheSane | |Jelly|: haha, thats so cute |
| 21:37.19 | malreth | it's go home time! |
| 21:37.27 | NightHawkTheSane | that's like "omg, blizz if you don't do <somethig stupid> i'm cancelling!" |
| 21:38.04 | NeoTron | well that does it |
| 21:38.10 | NeoTron | now Norganna has no choice |
| 21:38.12 | NeoTron | bummer |
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| 21:38.30 | AbsoRayne | We were at the beach |
| 21:38.35 | AbsoRayne | everybody had matching towels! |
| 21:39.49 | AbsoRayne | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8207-RaynesBurntBlackCherryLite.html#comments newest comment, now someone else is having it, but on a PC. Fantastic. |
| 21:40.25 | Lunessa | |Jelly|: Of course it does. People the world over are forced to do whatever you want just because you got some people on the internet to type /signed. |
| 21:40.36 | |Jelly| | roflamo |
| 21:40.59 | Lunessa | AbsoRayne: RockLobster... OOOOOO! |
| 21:41.09 | AbsoRayne | Lunessa: :D |
| 21:41.27 | |Jelly| | "you also cannot drop a stack and get a 5% anymore either the plane fore posting auctions was abandoned..." I need a translation. Does he mean you can't get a 5% undercut price anymore or ? |
| 21:41.31 | AbsoRayne | It has to be the shadow settings....its the only thing I can think of that someone brought up before. |
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| 21:42.46 | AbsoRayne | This is really bothering me. :/ I could understand a desktop crash. But a full Comp Crash? Thats outrageous. |
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| 21:43.30 | Wraanger | heya |
| 21:43.55 | Wraanger | question : that new calendar feature on the minimap. how can I change the font it uses ? |
| 21:44.29 | NightHawkTheSane | 2k maul & mangle crits make me giggle |
| 21:44.44 | IronMountain | how its possible that http://pastey.net/99370 doesn't say anything -.O |
| 21:44.50 | IronMountain | (on the chat) |
| 21:45.25 | Zootfizzle | There's not enough code there to tell |
| 21:45.51 | mikma | nevcairiel: wasn't Mapster your baby? :P |
| 21:45.58 | IronMountain | oh :o |
| 21:45.59 | NightHawkTheSane | what's GetPlayerBuffName()? |
| 21:46.11 | Zootfizzle | Although it's also possible that your events are setup wrong and I'm missing it (don't tell anyone) :P |
| 21:46.20 | alestane | NightHawkTheSane: Exactly. |
| 21:46.31 | IronMountain | just tested :(, since i didn't get any message no mather what i tried :( |
| 21:46.54 | Gnarfoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:47.00 | IronMountain | i tried with err...AURA_APPLIED or something |
| 21:47.09 | mikma | ironmountain: pff, stop being so finnish |
| 21:47.12 | Gnarfoz | something changed wrt quests, "breaking" AutoTurnin |
| 21:47.16 | AbsoRayne | |Jelly|, Lunessa: Any thoughts? |
| 21:47.17 | mikma | it's not nice to curse in the comments |
| 21:47.23 | Dewin | Zoot: Am I imagining things or are you a blue? |
| 21:47.23 | Gnarfoz | but silently. so I guess something returns something else than it used to |
| 21:48.21 | IronMountain | mikma :D |
| 21:48.21 | bleeter | Zootfizzle: did I ever thank 'you' for moving the video/sound options to the login screen? If not, serious amounts of <3 to you from me :) |
| 21:48.21 | Zootfizzle | Dewin: Probably both ^_^ |
| 21:48.21 | AbsoRayne | The sooner I figure out whats causing this crash the better, so I can update it and make people happy. |
| 21:48.21 | Dewin | bleeter: I second that |
| 21:48.21 | Zootfizzle | AbsoRayne: Crash? |
| 21:48.21 | nevcairiel | mikma: it is |
| 21:48.21 | |Jelly| | Rayne: What? Sorry ... been kind of engrossed in this auctioneer advanced thing. |
| 21:48.22 | Zootfizzle | bleeter: Thanks and you're welcome! |
| 21:48.32 | AbsoRayne | Zootfizzle: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8207-RaynesBurntBlackCherryLite.html#comments Latest 2 comments. Crash on Mac / PC user. Apparently narrowed down to the config |
| 21:48.36 | mikma | nevcairiel: you are aware of the "bug" that happens with WorldMap (this is with Mapster, dunno does the default do it too) |
| 21:48.48 | nevcairiel | what bug? |
| 21:48.51 | nevcairiel | i didnt notice anything |
| 21:48.52 | AbsoRayne | Someone said it was probably the shadow settings, but ive never heard of / had this issue up until 3.0.2 |
| 21:48.53 | Lunessa | AbsoRayne: Edit your included config.wtf to take out your settings for sound and graphics (other than screen resolution) and tell players to set them on their own. |
| 21:48.55 | mikma | nevcairiel: i rightclick on the map and try to select a new zone, it returns to the same zone i am when map has been opened |
| 21:48.59 | |Jelly| | Rayne: Tell them to stop using a Mac. Problem solved. |
| 21:49.01 | mikma | nevcairiel: this happens *really* often |
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| 21:49.11 | nevcairiel | mikma: thats one of your addons doing that |
| 21:49.12 | AbsoRayne | |Jelly|: Last one was a PC user |
| 21:49.19 | nevcairiel | not mapster, though. |
| 21:49.28 | mikma | nevcairiel: nothing i have interferes with the map |
| 21:49.33 | |Jelly| | Rayne: Tell them to, I don't know, pc -> window. |
| 21:49.43 | |Jelly| | ~hug Lunessa |
| 21:49.43 | purl | ACTION hugs Lunessa |
| 21:50.20 | Yssaril | mikma: are you sure addons dont really have to use the map to be able to interfere with it :) |
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| 21:50.26 | AbsoRayne | Where is my updated ClassTimer |
| 21:50.42 | Lunessa | AbsoRayne: You have lots of settings in there which might be all well and good for your machine, but not someone else's - specifically shadowing, multisampling, textures, etc. |
| 21:50.48 | |Jelly| | I think I'm going to rip the one out of the new Caith. None of the downloads I can find work. |
| 21:50.50 | mikma | yssaril: well i know what have i installed, if that's what you mean :D |
| 21:51.40 | Yssaril | mikma: have you turned of your mods and checked if it happens with only mapster installed? |
| 21:51.41 | |Jelly| | Rayne: Lemme just sound like a Fanboi some more and recommend doing it like Caith did. Don't put a config.wtf with your download but rather, tell them what they need to change for it to work. (Resolution / UI Scale) |
| 21:52.01 | AbsoRayne | Lunessa: Yeah, im not really running last years PC <_< |
| 21:52.05 | mikma | yssaril: nothing i have touches the worldmap. except Mapster. I do know what I have installed |
| 21:52.12 | AbsoRayne | |Jelly|: And yeah I think im going to start doing that |
| 21:52.20 | mikma | this is the reason why i'm wondering what's causing this to happen |
| 21:52.26 | mikma | the default map or mapster |
| 21:52.37 | mikma | yikes! Infected Zombie! |
| 21:52.39 | alestane | Quick! Get an Argetn Healer in here! |
| 21:52.40 | Yssaril | mikma: that wasn't the question have you tried it with just mapser or jsut default with nothing else running? |
| 21:52.46 | Lunessa | AbsoRayne: Some of your settings would make my pc choke. And I'm not running crap. :P |
| 21:52.56 | Industrial | mikma doesnt have any brains to eat |
| 21:52.57 | Industrial | ghe ghe |
| 21:53.03 | mikma | true. |
| 21:53.13 | AbsoRayne | Lunessa: I kinda went overboard on the one I currently have XD |
| 21:53.37 | AbsoRayne | I WANT TO STAB THESE PEOPLE WITH THE BM PETS THAT MAKE THE SCREEN SHAKE. |
| 21:53.42 | NightHawkTheSane | seriously. 2200 maul crits are crazy |
| 21:54.05 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, cog seems normal to me. |
| 21:54.09 | mikma | nevcairiel: tested, this happens only with mapster. |
| 21:54.30 | mikma | i have everything else disabled except Mapster. also i tested without any map modifications and the map worked fine |
| 21:54.34 | AbsoRayne | cogwheel: Headcrabs? |
| 21:54.35 | alestane | AbsoRayne: they fixed the devilsaurs before launch...I have hopes that 3.0.3 or another patch might address the core hounds. |
| 21:54.46 | cogwheel | AbsoRayne: 14:52 * Zootzombie eats Cogwheel's brains |
| 21:54.52 | kamdis | AbsoRayne: Zootzombie ate cogwheel's brains. :( |
| 21:54.58 | nevcairiel | mikma: there is nothing in mapster that changes the map zoom |
| 21:55.00 | AbsoRayne | I see |
| 21:55.07 | AbsoRayne | Im going to go hide in the corner now |
| 21:55.09 | NeoTron | AbsoRayne: seriously, stab Blizzard for implementing / not fixing it |
| 21:55.22 | Zootfizzle | Please don't ;( |
| 21:55.26 | kamdis | Zoot's right here; stab him. |
| 21:55.29 | kamdis | :) |
| 21:55.37 | mikma | nevcairiel: well something is doing something in Mapster. trust me |
| 21:55.39 | kamdis | ~whalestab Zootfizzle |
| 21:55.39 | purl | ACTION stabs Zootfizzle with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 21:55.41 | AbsoRayne | Zootfizzle has a larger knife than you. |
| 21:55.43 | NeoTron | ~blame Zootfizzle |
| 21:55.43 | purl | ACTION blames Zootfizzle (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 21:55.44 | Zootfizzle | ~whaleparry |
| 21:55.45 | Lunessa | cogwheel: I can't tell the difference |
| 21:55.50 | nevcairiel | mikma: i know my code, its not calling the func :P |
| 21:55.51 | AbsoRayne | Its sharpened by coding and good advice. |
| 21:55.55 | AbsoRayne | You cant beat that. |
| 21:56.04 | kamdis | ha, purl likes me better. |
| 21:56.09 | nevcairiel | mikma: except when the frame is shown, just once. |
| 21:56.13 | cogwheel | durrrrrbleargh gurgle phlpbhbpblb |
| 21:56.19 | mikma | nevcairiel: sure, but please keep this in mind. |
| 21:56.37 | |Jelly| | Is it wrong that I wanna say "Why don't you just pick someone at random and form a petition?" http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11676599986&sid=1&pageNo=2#38 |
| 21:56.39 | IronMountain | could someone take look at http://pastey.net/99371 and say if im on right path ? :), the meaning is that when i get Slam! buff it will just announce it on chat frame ;p |
| 21:56.42 | AbsoRayne | oh yay I can trick or treat in 5 mins! |
| 21:56.58 | IronMountain | err, typo on that one :( |
| 21:57.35 | IronMountain | now it should be "right" |
| 21:57.36 | Gnarfoz | so |
| 21:57.36 | AbsoRayne | |Jelly|: No |
| 21:57.38 | IronMountain | well, atleast no typos |
| 21:57.39 | IronMountain | ^^ |
| 21:57.40 | AbsoRayne | Say it |
| 21:57.40 | |Jelly| | Don't you need to register the event somewhere? |
| 21:57.55 | Zootfizzle | AbsoRayne: I'll forward your compilation to QA. I don't see anything I know of to be potentially crashy right off the bat, but extShadowQuality 4 is really killer |
| 21:58.09 | Gnarfoz | GOSSIP_SHOW fires for npcs who have more than a "hello, I am NPC xyz" line. what event fires for an NPC that has that line + 3 quests to choose from? |
| 21:58.20 | mikma | ironmountain: please have a look at this: http://svn.wowinterface.com/filedetails.php?repname=mikma&path=%2FChamois%2FChamois.lua <- it detects buffs on shaman |
| 21:58.26 | Zootfizzle | If somebody has bad hardware, it would be like stabbing their computer in the chest. :P |
| 21:58.47 | NightHawkTheSane | IronMountain: you might want to read up on COMBAT_LOG_EVENT event types, it looks like yours is a bit wrong: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_COMBAT_LOG_EVENT |
| 21:59.01 | Zootfizzle | Gnomish engineers learned early on from their Goblin counterparts that stabbing can be bad for computers. |
| 21:59.21 | Lunessa | Zootfizzle: Not just stabbing it, but then hitting it with a large hammer and saying "How do you like me now?" |
| 21:59.40 | mikma | ironmountain: have a look at function checkearthshock() |
| 21:59.43 | NeoTron | zombie roachs ftw |
| 21:59.58 | Lunessa | kd3 PC LOAD LETTER? |
| 22:00.27 | kd3 | hm... I wonder if fishing buddy has been updated for 3.0.2 yet? |
| 22:00.28 | kamdis | I love when people say things like "can't you just make it 3.0 compliant" like it's as easy as flipping a switch. |
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| 22:01.01 | Gngsk | how rude |
| 22:01.07 | kd3 | yay! it got updated yesterday |
| 22:01.09 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:01.11 | Lunessa | kamdis: I'm not 3.0 compliant. All I did was flip a switch. |
| 22:01.18 | kamdis | lol |
| 22:01.35 | cogwheel | weee splurch durrrr lalalalala doot dee doo |
| 22:01.52 | Neuro_Medivh | I must be the luckiest guy in the world, I think I've won the lottery about 250 times now! In places I didn't even know HAD a lottery! |
| 22:02.06 | mikma | ~gz neuro_medivh |
| 22:02.10 | IronMountain | so easiest way would be just loop it and check every buff ? |
| 22:02.15 | mikma | what? no gz! |
| 22:02.28 | AbsoRayne | Zootfizzle: Ok, ty :) |
| 22:02.30 | kamdis | you think that's going to do him any good, Zoot? |
| 22:02.32 | mikma | ironmountain: it's one way to do it |
| 22:02.32 | kamdis | ;-) |
| 22:02.50 | bleeter | kamdis: awesomes, thx for the heads up ;) |
| 22:02.53 | mikma | ironmountain: i know it works because i use that addon when i play my shaman, which is daily |
| 22:02.55 | bleeter | s/kamdis/kd3/ |
| 22:03.09 | Zootfizzle | In reality, they tasted horrible and I'm using this as an excuse. :P |
| 22:03.20 | IronMountain | :P, i guess then i just to try that ^^ |
| 22:03.21 | Neuro_Medivh | empty calories? |
| 22:03.30 | mikma | ironmountain: well. What's Slam! ? |
| 22:03.37 | kd3 | now maybe I'll be able to catch old ironjaw without killing myself |
| 22:03.44 | IronMountain | its buff what comes when you crit with Bloodthirst |
| 22:03.45 | Neuro_Medivh | cogwheel's brain is junk food? |
| 22:03.48 | NightHawkTheSane | IronMountain: you shouldn't have to loop buffs.. |
| 22:03.52 | IronMountain | fury warrior's talent |
| 22:03.58 | NightHawkTheSane | IronMountain: you should just need to catch the right event.. |
| 22:04.05 | mikma | ironmountain: ok, wait a moment i have a look |
| 22:04.06 | NeoTron | Neuro_Medivh: I've won millions in lotteries I forgot I signed up for! |
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| 22:04.21 | NightHawkTheSane | the last code you pastey'd was close, your eventtype was a little wrong though i htink |
| 22:04.22 | cogwheel | ... STATION |
| 22:04.26 | Lunessa | All I can say is cogwheel & Zootfizzle in Sholazar basin. Gnomish Death Rays at 10 paces, Dawn Nov 13. GO |
| 22:04.28 | Neuro_Medivh | NeoTron: Me too! |
| 22:04.58 | Neuro_Medivh | My money is on cogwheel. He's so small, harder to hit |
| 22:04.59 | Zootfizzle | I'll be in San Francisco for our launch event! |
| 22:05.04 | Lunessa | Apparently Colloquy has a "disconnect" hotkey combo I wa spreviously unaware of. |
| 22:05.04 | mikma | ironmountain: is that pastey the *whole* code you have? |
| 22:05.06 | Zootfizzle | If anybody's nearby they should come and say hi! |
| 22:05.07 | alestane | IronMountain: You might want to look through Blizzard_CombatText and see which event prompts the <Bloodsurge> message. |
| 22:05.15 | cogwheel | Zootfizzle: what day? |
| 22:05.18 | IronMountain | mikma yep :D |
| 22:05.21 | cogwheel | and where? |
| 22:05.26 | mikma | ironmountain: no wonder it won't work then :O |
| 22:05.41 | AbsoRayne | Oh thats right, I need to find my receipt for my WotLK copy <_< |
| 22:05.44 | IronMountain | why ? =( |
| 22:05.49 | Neuro_Medivh | does anyone on here have a magic broom on beta? |
| 22:05.58 | mikma | ironmountain: nothing calls that function |
| 22:06.01 | Lunessa | cogwheel can get to SF. He can do it! |
| 22:06.12 | cogwheel | Lunessa: depending on traffic anyway :P |
| 22:06.23 | kamdis | Zoot really? in the SF proper or down by me in San Jose? |
| 22:06.27 | Zootfizzle | I believe it's a midnight launch on the 12th at a GameStop |
| 22:06.33 | Lunessa | So... Gnomish Death Rays at 10 paces! GO GO GO |
| 22:06.47 | Zootfizzle | I don't know which one yet =X |
| 22:06.52 | cogwheel | my uncle choreographed and stared in a pace commercial |
| 22:06.53 | kamdis | Ah |
| 22:07.12 | kamdis | In the past they've held them at the Fry's near me. |
| 22:07.21 | kamdis | But GameStop, who knows; they're everywhere. |
| 22:07.50 | mikma | ironmountain: "Slam!" text is argument nr.? in that event? |
| 22:08.00 | mikma | ironmountain: or, 46916 spell? |
| 22:08.09 | IronMountain | 46916 = slam! |
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| 22:08.58 | Gnarfoz | is there an event that fires when you open a quest NPC dialog? |
| 22:09.37 | mikma | ironmountain: this has been completely drycoded after n+1 months if not coding so it will not work if you just slam it into an addon: http://pastey.net/99374 |
| 22:10.07 | mikma | ironmountain: but the basic idea is this: create a frame, register the event in frame, if the event fires and the spellid matches print stuff in chat. |
| 22:10.21 | AbsoRayne | lol nice |
| 22:10.31 | AbsoRayne | Tree of Life is immune to the Ghoul Disease |
| 22:10.47 | mikma | absorayne: so is flight form :) |
| 22:10.57 | bleeter | doorids roxor |
| 22:10.59 | AbsoRayne | mikma: \o/ |
| 22:11.10 | bleeter | I wish I'd listened to Mr_Rabies a lot sooner >< |
| 22:11.35 | IronMountain | mikma thanks |
| 22:11.41 | IronMountain | i guess with that i can figure it out ^^ |
| 22:11.43 | IronMountain | atleast i hope so :o |
| 22:12.26 | AbsoRayne | Yeah, there was like 20ish people in IF getting ready to do a pvp premade, and some ghoul just bursted right on top of em |
| 22:12.29 | AbsoRayne | And I didnt get it |
| 22:12.31 | AbsoRayne | lol |
| 22:12.34 | mikma | just don't trust that it will work fine with copypaste. also, get TinyPad or some sort of addon that can execute code ingame |
| 22:14.03 | IronMountain | mhh |
| 22:14.17 | IronMountain | so with tinypad i don't have to restart wow allthe time ? |
| 22:14.33 | mikma | restart, heavens no, /console reloadui |
| 22:15.21 | IronMountain | :p, i though that doesn't work if you edit addon files :( |
| 22:17.07 | mikma | it works :) |
| 22:17.13 | Lunessa | I need a nap. |
| 22:17.13 | zenzelezz | it works if you edit files, not if you add files to .toc after launching game |
| 22:17.24 | mikma | I need a hug. |
| 22:19.06 | IronMountain | /hug mikma |
| 22:19.10 | Gngsk | ~hug mikma |
| 22:19.11 | purl | ACTION hugs mikma tightly until mikma turns slightly blue |
| 22:19.27 | Gngsk | the snosberries taste like snosberries! |
| 22:20.12 | Yssaril | anyone tried to infect faction leaders yet? |
| 22:20.15 | mikma | are snosberries the one you pick from your nose? |
| 22:20.19 | mikma | i tried |
| 22:20.23 | mikma | they are "immune" |
| 22:20.32 | Yssaril | bah |
| 22:20.33 | mikma | except gnomeking |
| 22:20.38 | Gngsk | srsly? |
| 22:20.42 | mikma | ya |
| 22:20.47 | Gnarfoz | so... no event fires at all for opening a quest npc's dialogue frame? ;X |
| 22:20.47 | Gngsk | how rude |
| 22:20.50 | mikma | but he has 151k life |
| 22:21.28 | mikma | gnarfoz: well check it with DevTools |
| 22:21.42 | Gnarfoz | mikma: mhhh how'd I do that? |
| 22:21.54 | mikma | ~devtools |
| 22:21.55 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 22:21.57 | Gngsk | instal devtools, open the event log frame, talk to a quest who has an npc |
| 22:22.08 | Gngsk | er, npc who has a quest |
| 22:22.09 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:22.14 | Gngsk | yar |
| 22:22.25 | Gnarfoz | yeah I know DT, just not how to use it for that purpose, cheers =D |
| 22:22.33 | Gngsk | corrodias: |
| 22:22.37 | Gngsk | wow, lol |
| 22:22.42 | Gngsk | C : |
| 22:22.45 | Gngsk | smiley face! |
| 22:22.48 | mikma | gnarfoz: just make sure you are in quiet, lonely place :D |
| 22:22.49 | Gngsk | aka nick completion |
| 22:23.01 | Gnarfoz | I'm at LHC, it's quite deserted |
| 22:23.06 | mikma | gnarfoz: i hate disabling the useless events 1 by 1, so i jsut usually leave them all on and go to some place quiet |
| 22:23.20 | mikma | quiet and lonely = no-one around in 2000 yards lol |
| 22:23.31 | mikma | find a floating island in outlands and code there or so |
| 22:23.37 | Gngsk | he could just peek into an addon that knows that addon, I'd choose SOCD |
| 22:23.46 | Gnarfoz | I'm fixing AutoTurnin |
| 22:23.48 | Gnarfoz | so... :\ |
| 22:23.49 | Gngsk | s/addon,/event,/ |
| 22:23.53 | Gnarfoz | but I should look at SOCD, you're right |
| 22:24.00 | Industrial | Gnarfoz: r u seriouzzz :O? really at the LHC? |
| 22:24.07 | Gnarfoz | Industrial: gtfo :P |
| 22:24.11 | Gngsk | ^ |
| 22:24.11 | Industrial | ;D |
| 22:24.16 | Thunder_Child | heh Industrial, thats what i thought |
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| 22:33.45 | Yssaril | rofl you can kill the inkeeper while gouled :) |
| 22:35.52 | alestane | Or better yet, infect him. |
| 22:41.12 | AbsoRayne | ;_; |
| 22:42.03 | foxlit | "why dont we just throw away the crates?" > "And waste perfectly good grain, I think not." |
| 22:42.06 | IronMountain | what the hell is <eof> error -.O |
| 22:42.17 | foxlit | end of file |
| 22:42.24 | IronMountain | ofc...^^ |
| 22:42.44 | bleeter | IronMountain: something got to the end of file earlier than the system was expecting |
| 22:43.39 | bleeter | Yssaril: doesn't take that many zombies to take out a flight master, either |
| 22:43.56 | bleeter | just need to get a few guards 'on your side' and concentrate the attack |
| 22:44.29 | bleeter | though yes, infecting NPCs in an unsuspecting villiage is a little more fun, from an RP Zombie point of view |
| 22:44.33 | IronMountain | is there any rewards / archiviements for that ghoul event ? |
| 22:45.19 | Neuro_Medivh | that warm tingling sensation you get from doing some true evil |
| 22:45.20 | bleeter | IronMountain: none that I'm aware of as yet. Blues are indicating there's 'more to come', I'm hoping for some Lich King uber-minion to start beating on major cities. |
| 22:45.22 | foxlit | you'll not know until its over |
| 22:45.31 | bleeter | there may be some defense quest involved in that... /shrug |
| 22:45.43 | IronMountain | hope so |
| 22:45.48 | IronMountain | like when naxx came :o |
| 22:45.49 | IronMountain | or tbc |
| 22:47.34 | foxlit | oh yeah, the naxx event was just awesomely evil |
| 22:47.48 | foxlit | (that and overpowered frost mages capable of soloing all of it) |
| 22:48.09 | IronMountain | ^^ |
| 22:48.45 | bleeter | I still can't fathom the amount of Q regarding major world events that happen... what.. every 18/24 months |
| 22:49.03 | bleeter | World of HELLO KITTY |
| 22:49.19 | Gnarfoz | amount of Q? |
| 22:49.26 | Gnarfoz | Q is omnipotent etc |
| 22:49.27 | foxlit | I say we kill the king. |
| 22:49.35 | foxlit | Before he sends us into war with the Horde |
| 22:49.48 | foxlit | I've travelled from the future to save the past sort of thing? |
| 22:49.58 | bleeter | foxlit: I hear the 'thing to do' (unless it's been hotfixed) is got into CoT and infect Fording and Thrall ;) |
| 22:50.03 | bleeter | *go into |
| 22:50.07 | Cidan | you can't |
| 22:50.10 | Cidan | The king will one shot you |
| 22:50.21 | Cidan | he hits like a truck |
| 22:50.24 | foxlit | Then we can all live happily ever after, Wrynn-less and happy. |
| 22:50.27 | Cidan | and he has a healer right next to him |
| 22:50.43 | foxlit | I take it the spoiler is to kill the healer first? |
| 22:50.49 | Cidan | you can't |
| 22:50.52 | Cidan | The king will rape you |
| 22:50.54 | AbsoRayne | This poor 60 hunter |
| 22:51.03 | AbsoRayne | Hes trying to hard to be cute |
| 22:51.08 | AbsoRayne | his auto shots hitting me for 90 |
| 22:51.15 | foxlit | Cidan, I appreciate your concern about the king; but he's only one man with a swing timer. |
| 22:51.24 | IronMountain | mikma how i should do "frame:SetScript("OnEvent", function (self, event, ...))" part, can't figure it out :(, if i do it like you wrote (self, event, ...) i just get errors about oef, and []doesn't work :( (i tried that one too :D) |
| 22:51.39 | IronMountain | why [] doesn't work on lua btw, it works on most of the languages ;p |
| 22:51.45 | Cidan | The king will hit a zombie for 12k or so |
| 22:51.52 | foxlit | IronMountain: that question is absurd. |
| 22:52.05 | foxlit | Cidan: and remain in combat with the 999 other zombies out to get him |
| 22:52.17 | IronMountain | whys that o.o |
| 22:53.10 | foxlit | Assuming he can score a hit every 0.25seconds, that's still leaves 10s of evil-doing per 40 zombies |
| 22:53.19 | foxlit | s/'s// |
| 22:53.47 | foxlit | The real question is whether the zombies can do anything to him :) |
| 22:54.10 | foxlit | However short their individual life spans might be |
| 22:54.17 | bleeter | foxlit: I beleive city leaders are immune to infection |
| 22:54.33 | Dashkal | I think he's immune to the infection, but if mangle works they'll go down eventually :p |
| 22:54.34 | bleeter | foxlit: unless, see above re: CoT and screwing up lore big time ;) |
| 22:54.41 | foxlit | tertiary information says otherwise :) |
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| 22:55.11 | foxlit | unfortunately for CoT, neither Fordring or Thrall are asses. |
| 22:55.28 | foxlit | and thus don't make for interesting targets; whereas the king... :) |
| 22:56.51 | qz | is it possible to hook some event without creating a frame? |
| 22:58.13 | Xuerian | foxlit, mikma: Why have we not referred mr iron to PIL yet? |
| 22:58.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: he has been |
| 22:58.33 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: and wowprogramming as well |
| 22:58.35 | Xuerian | Oh. |
| 22:58.37 | Xuerian | No pity then. |
| 22:58.56 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Time for some good old-fashioned lambasting ;D |
| 23:01.10 | foxlit | I'm just lazy :) |
| 23:02.37 | foxlit | Plus most of my queries are answered by the Lua reference rather than PiL, so I'm hesitant to point at the latter |
| 23:03.07 | Xuerian | Well, I do have to agree there, the lua manual was more helpful than the pile of pages that is PiL, to me. |
| 23:03.53 | alestane | PiL attempts to explain some of the concepts and practices behind the language in a way that the manual does not, but the manual makes a better reference. |
| 23:04.08 | NightHawkTheSane | i usually assume that if someone sees the pil they can usually find the manual easily enouogh, but i tend to think too much of people |
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| 23:04.55 | foxlit | (absolutely unrelated, but an awesome name: http://labix.org/lunatic-python ) |
| 23:05.06 | qz | uhm.. what is minimum code to hook some event? create frame and RegisterEvent ? |
| 23:05.20 | Dashkal | I'm sad about that. I was hoping for a good ol case of regicide. Wrynn dead ftw :p |
| 23:05.31 | Dashkal | oh well, I can still cheer on the horde |
| 23:05.41 | foxlit | poor alliance, really |
| 23:05.42 | NightHawkTheSane | qz: yeah, basically, wowwiki has info on registering for events i believe |
| 23:05.49 | foxlit | Nobody likes Fandral either. |
| 23:05.59 | qz | function Frame_OnEvent(...) end; CreateFrame('Frame'):RegisterEvent('BAG_OPEN') looks ok? |
| 23:06.03 | Dashkal | foxlit: that twit looks like he's already corrupted by an old god |
| 23:06.25 | Lunessa | The phrase I hate most from the UI & Macros forum, "I'd like an official/blue/someone in-charge response please." |
| 23:06.29 | NightHawkTheSane | qz: not quite, like i said, check wowwiki |
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| 23:06.48 | Dashkal | I think the only city I'd actually life a finger to defend is Ironforge |
| 23:07.00 | Gnarfoz | how do you "cancel" a dialog programatically? |
| 23:07.01 | Xuerian | foxlit: I saw that a while back, that's a nifty project |
| 23:07.05 | Gnarfoz | i.e. "go one step back"? |
| 23:07.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Dashkal: not that magni NEEDS help there |
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| 23:07.25 | |pez| | the boyfriend is cute sometimes... he made me a slice with bread, and made symbols on the salami with mayonese(?) |
| 23:07.26 | Xuerian | Lunessa: Who was the offender this time? |
| 23:07.31 | |pez| | it was (L) and a heart... |
| 23:07.36 | Dashkal | NightHawkTheSane: needs? no. But that doesn't mean that I wouldn't _want_ to defend him |
| 23:07.45 | Xuerian | |pez|: d'awwww |
| 23:07.46 | NightHawkTheSane | true, im just saying :p |
| 23:07.47 | foxlit | NightHawkTheSane: there's also that gnome |
| 23:07.58 | Xuerian | "That gnome" |
| 23:07.58 | foxlit | Won't someone think of the gnome? |
| 23:08.00 | Xuerian | Haha, awesome. |
| 23:08.02 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: man, fuck that gnome |
| 23:08.16 | Dashkal | foxlit: I'd defend him too... he's so _cute!_ |
| 23:08.35 | Dashkal | He's also pretty much fucked. 40man horde raid coming out of the deeprun = splat |
| 23:08.51 | Lunessa | Xinhuan: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11296568424&sid=1 |
| 23:09.41 | Lunessa | Bah... Auto-complete FAIL! |
| 23:09.45 | qz | NightHawkTheSane, its nearly impossible to find it there.. =p |
| 23:09.57 | qz | would've been much faster if you just said what's missing there. |
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| 23:10.54 | Xuerian | Lunessa: "It's not a bug, it's a feature. Rejoice!" |
| 23:11.04 | NightHawkTheSane | qz: it took me <30s of searching wowwiki to find code on it. you can do that, i'm sure. |
| 23:11.42 | Dashkal | Lunessa: thank you for that reminder as to why I avoid those forums :p |
| 23:12.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: so.. all of 10s? :) |
| 23:12.26 | Dashkal | Sadly, I stand by my claim that the UI ones are the best of the lot... |
| 23:12.29 | Xuerian | "This is really annoying to me as well, I want to commit suicide everytime I log on when I see this. Please fix this now. I don't want to be on the 10 o'clock news anytime soon. " Golden |
| 23:12.49 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: I made it to 10 seconds? I thought I was KoS to this rep... |
| 23:12.57 | NightHawkTheSane | haha |
| 23:15.33 | Lunessa | I'm tempted to tell the suicide poster to do us all a favor... |
| 23:15.43 | Xuerian | BECOME AN HERO |
| 23:15.52 | alestane | And embrace teh little voices in his head? |
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| 23:17.12 | Lunessa | The voices in my head tell me things. Naughty secrets. They tell me the end is nigh. They tell me to tell you to off yourself. They also say I can get a really nice cashmere sweater at macys for only $99.00 |
| 23:17.22 | Neuro_Medivh | those voices lie |
| 23:17.40 | Neuro_Medivh | any $99 dollar cashmere sweater at macys is not nice |
| 23:17.45 | Lunessa | I know. Macy's never sells any thing for $99. |
| 23:17.54 | Neuro_Medivh | prolly a malaysian knockoff |
| 23:18.15 | Lunessa | This is why I think it might be lying about the rest of the things it says. |
| 23:18.21 | kd3 | bah. baking delicious chocolate cake is a pain |
| 23:18.25 | kd3 | so much crap involved |
| 23:18.31 | kamdis | A good quality cashmere sweater will never be $99 unless you get it second hand |
| 23:18.38 | Lunessa | And if I could get the voices in my head to pay rent, I might not be broke. |
| 23:19.01 | kamdis | I see the chat frame druid person is now making that thread into a petition. lol. |
| 23:19.16 | kamdis | and was given an addon solution but "doesn't want" that. |
| 23:19.18 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 23:19.20 | qz | NightHawkTheSane, that guide just doesnt work ;) must be outdated |
| 23:19.26 | Dashkal | kd3: agreed. I have the recipie, but I just can't be bothered so far to farm the eggs :p |
| 23:19.59 | ScytheBlade1 | kamdis: that makes me laugh, I should read it |
| 23:20.23 | kamdis | two petitions in one day on UI & Macros. |
| 23:20.30 | kamdis | we've gone downhill fast :-( |
| 23:20.42 | mikma | ironmountain: like i said, my code was drycoding with limited skills |
| 23:20.46 | Zootfizzle | O_o |
| 23:20.48 | Zootfizzle | Petitions? |
| 23:20.48 | kamdis | much like the death knight beta forums in the last month |
| 23:21.12 | kamdis | yeah, one about the chat frame now not being transparent all the time (?) and one about auctioneer. |
| 23:21.22 | bleeter | Zootfizzle: someone started a 'Bring Back Classic Auctioneer' petition thread earlier on the Blizz UI forums hehe |
| 23:21.34 | NightHawkTheSane | kamdis: wait, whats this about the chat frame? >.> |
| 23:21.34 | bleeter | well, technically, linking to an ipetition site holding the petition |
| 23:21.39 | kamdis | that's the one i find most amusing bleeter |
| 23:22.03 | kamdis | "I have my chat settings locked, and before the patch any time I locked them the black box would not appear when I hoovered over the text box." |
| 23:22.11 | kamdis | "Now, however, even if my chat settings have been locked I'm still getting the black box appearing. " |
| 23:22.23 | kamdis | meh |
| 23:22.37 | bleeter | kamdis: the 'bring back classic' crowd has been.. painful for me to read. I dunno how RockSlice, Nechckn et al. manage to stay civil |
| 23:22.57 | bleeter | and prolly even more painful for norgs to read, too |
| 23:23.05 | kamdis | bleeter, same here. That's why I got all bitchy in that thread today. |
| 23:23.14 | kamdis | It does what they want. It really does. |
| 23:23.16 | Lunessa | Those thread are exactly why my personal AddOns are still personal. |
| 23:23.17 | RockSlice | rum |
| 23:23.38 | kamdis | ~hug RockSlice |
| 23:23.39 | purl | ACTION hugs RockSlice |
| 23:23.43 | ScytheBlade1 | kamdis: oh I'm totally replying |
| 23:23.49 | Zootfizzle | I need to head petitions off at the pass. |
| 23:23.49 | ScytheBlade1 | ... or Zoot asked |
| 23:23.49 | kamdis | hehehe |
| 23:23.51 | Nechckn | Ah, yeah... that was mighty "trooperish" in your responses, kamdis Thank you |
| 23:23.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Zootfizzle: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11296568424&sid=1&pageNo=2 |
| 23:23.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Zootfizzle: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11296568424&sid=1&pageNo=2#27 rather |
| 23:24.14 | Nechckn | I prefer lots and lots of pain killers... they help to take the edge off, too. |
| 23:24.17 | Nechckn | ;-) |
| 23:24.35 | ScytheBlade1 | And as far as I know (and have posted in that thread...) that's been the way that chat boxes have worked since -forever- |
| 23:24.36 | mikma | WOOOOO zombiechaos phase2! |
| 23:24.39 | Nechckn | It's either that or end up in the electric chair for hunting down some folks... |
| 23:24.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Plus I kinda like it that way, it gives me on-demand contrast :P |
| 23:24.53 | kamdis | or vicodin, your choice |
| 23:25.27 | Nechckn | hehhehe 1 of each, s'il vous plait! |
| 23:26.05 | kamdis | <3 |
| 23:26.18 | Dashkal | mikma: what changed in p2? |
| 23:26.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Random tangent: does anyone know an addon that will keep track of which dailies i've done in the current day? >.> |
| 23:27.46 | mikma | plagued roaches and crates in all major cities! |
| 23:27.48 | kamdis | uh...there's at least one... |
| 23:27.58 | kamdis | well |
| 23:27.59 | Dashkal | nice |
| 23:28.05 | kamdis | tourguide has an sso dailies guide |
| 23:28.06 | kamdis | ummm |
| 23:30.02 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: really? nice. |
| 23:30.28 | mikma | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=22811.0 |
| 23:30.48 | kamdis | NHTS: I can't find any that are updted for 3.0 |
| 23:31.11 | NightHawkTheSane | kamdis: :( damn. maybe i should make one. |
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| 23:31.33 | kamdis | there's this, dunno if it works still http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8605-DailiesQuestTracker.html |
| 23:31.58 | NightHawkTheSane | Really, I just want something simple to keep track of what dailies i've done. I keep thinking "did i do the fires daily on this toon? Or did I just do the pumpkin one, do i still have a HH summon left?" |
| 23:32.04 | kamdis | if it's Ace2 it's probably non-functional |
| 23:33.50 | Dashkal | my god, by the time this is done there'll be nothing but a slavering horde of zombies :p Ok, cancel WotLK. Arthas wins |
| 23:33.53 | NightHawkTheSane | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:34.09 | kamdis | lol |
| 23:34.18 | alestane | I just now noticed that the jump binding now works underwater as it does when flying. |
| 23:34.34 | Dashkal | That change is win |
| 23:34.38 | ScytheBlade1 | k, that was easy and awesome. I just ran into the SW Auction House, hit Iceblock, transformed into a zombie, and then detonated, infecting everyone. |
| 23:34.40 | kamdis | We will all be death knights. no more balance issues. also, no more healers. |
| 23:34.46 | NightHawkTheSane | kamdis: thanks for the link there, by the way. even if it doesn't work, i can probably steal some code from it,clean it up, and make my own |
| 23:34.49 | Dashkal | Blood Aura! |
| 23:34.58 | kamdis | dashkal, bah. |
| 23:35.01 | kamdis | it's good but |
| 23:35.06 | kamdis | it's not a healer replacement. |
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| 23:35.18 | NightHawkTheSane | not anymore, at least ;) |
| 23:35.18 | Dashkal | Erm? I actually consider it a waste of points. 2% is nothing |
| 23:35.22 | kamdis | NHTS and share it? /puppydogeyes |
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| 23:35.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh bah |
| 23:35.41 | NightHawkTheSane | kamdis: if I ever get it to a point where I think it doesn't suck, of course. :P |
| 23:35.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Some paladin cleansed it ALL |
| 23:36.06 | Lopeppeppy | Damn paladins |
| 23:36.09 | Dashkal | In the gear I'm in I do about 1200 DPS on my DK... 12 healing per second. 12. |
| 23:36.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: I agree |
| 23:36.39 | Dashkal | lua> 20* (25 - 3 - 7) |
| 23:36.40 | lua_bot | Dashkal: 300 |
| 23:37.20 | Dashkal | 330 raid healing per second :p Yeah |
| 23:37.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Dashkal: wouldn't that be 24 hps? |
| 23:37.42 | Dashkal | ooo, you have a point. 660 then |
| 23:37.44 | NightHawkTheSane | lua> 1200 * .02 |
| 23:37.45 | lua_bot | NightHawkTheSane: 24 |
| 23:37.48 | mikma | why in the hell the disease can be cured :I |
| 23:37.53 | mikma | that sucks so much balls |
| 23:37.56 | NightHawkTheSane | not that it invalidates your point, but still ;) |
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| 23:38.12 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: to keep it -somewhat- containtable, at least for now |
| 23:38.14 | alestane | I'm surprised that players can cure it, anyway. |
| 23:38.15 | Dashkal | Point is the healing is so trivial the points are just wasted |
| 23:38.15 | Xuerian | mikma: The kara crypt can be opened as a zombie? That's awesome.. The whole crypt is neat |
| 23:38.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Bah, now there are multiple cleansing the AH. |
| 23:38.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Sigh. |
| 23:38.37 | Dashkal | alestane: I'm not. The hints/progression seems to show that it'll get easier and easier to get a horde up |
| 23:38.40 | mikma | xuerian: wait, what? |
| 23:38.47 | Dashkal | A pack of zombies can zombie someone in no-time flag |
| 23:38.48 | mikma | xuerian: serious about that? |
| 23:38.49 | Dashkal | t* |
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| 23:38.56 | Xuerian | mikma: http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=22811.msg373313#msg373313 |
| 23:39.09 | Xuerian | It can be OPENED, but you can't go far in |
| 23:39.10 | Xuerian | :( |
| 23:39.14 | mikma | ah |
| 23:39.24 | mikma | old old place, been there couple of times :P |
| 23:39.25 | Xuerian | I really want to see something happen in there, unique crypt and all |
| 23:39.36 | mikma | long time ago my guildies were so "exploration gurus" |
| 23:39.52 | mikma | "we are gonna go into karazhan tombs! come with us and we show you how!" |
| 23:39.53 | Dashkal | It's 10 minutes, but the timer drops for every hit you take. So zombification is actually pretty quick |
| 23:39.54 | Xuerian | Yeah, I was too. I went in there once, but didn't go deep and never went back before it was blocked off |
| 23:40.04 | Xuerian | mikma: I did that with hyjal :p |
| 23:40.04 | mikma | when they got there, we were dancing inside nekkid :D |
| 23:40.18 | Xuerian | Hyjal->darkshore dives were the best. |
| 23:40.46 | Dashkal | Xuerian: I am so looking forward to that opening. I will level a mage or priest up JUST to do that jump |
| 23:41.11 | Xuerian | Dashkal: Screw that, just buy a couple stack of gnoggenfogger, chug, mount, jump, chug chug chug :p |
| 23:41.25 | mikma | xuerian: my friend did try being inside the AQ gates when they were opened. he was 2mins late :( |
| 23:41.34 | Dashkal | Xuerian: lol, take more than two stacks to fly that far :p |
| 23:41.35 | Xuerian | mikma: Doh :p |
| 23:41.48 | Xuerian | Dashkal: Haha, it's been a long time |
| 23:42.00 | Xuerian | Landed ON the long dock though, exactly.. XD |
| 23:42.02 | Dashkal | I remember the video. It's a good 2-3 minute flight iirc |
| 23:42.10 | Dashkal | She cleared the docks |
| 23:42.25 | bleeter | Zootfizzle: i think we managed to head that petition off 'at the pass' ;) |
| 23:42.39 | Lopeppeppy | OMG with petitions. *rolls eyes* |
| 23:43.22 | alestane | More people who think paying service fees makes them a blinkin' stockholder? |
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| 23:43.55 | bleeter | nah, people downloading stuff and making donations thinking that entitles them to make demands that should be met.. or something |
| 23:44.01 | Lopeppeppy | Entitlement can go.... *ahem* That was about to be the most unladylike and unprofessional statement of my vastly suckiful day. |
| 23:44.19 | alestane | That good, huh? |
| 23:45.15 | |Jelly| | Entitlement can go both die and rot in hell. |
| 23:45.15 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm. Do not cross a dino in full stomp. :) |
| 23:45.19 | Dashkal | Lopeppeppy: and you withheld it? *pouts* |
| 23:45.57 | bleeter | I think I'm entitled to another coffee |
| 23:46.02 | alestane | "...take a flying f%# at a rolling bagel", as a high school chum once put it. |
| 23:46.06 | bleeter | purely on the basis that my mug is currently empty |
| 23:46.09 | bleeter | is this wrong? |
| 23:47.19 | |Jelly| | All three of those signatures are really going to show you guys, bleeter. |
| 23:47.29 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, mine was much more vehement. Is why I think I need to go get some ice cream or kill someone, whichever crosses my path first. |
| 23:47.43 | bleeter | |Jelly|: I suspect at least one, if not two, of those sigs are our own guys ;) |
| 23:48.01 | Lopeppeppy | brb |
| 23:48.26 | alestane | I have ice cream, but it's coffee ice cream, which you said you don't like. |
| 23:48.53 | kd3 | whee, phase 2 of the zombie event is active |
| 23:48.55 | |Jelly| | bleeter: kek |
| 23:49.06 | kd3 | any truth to the rumors of the crypt under kara being open? |
| 23:50.00 | |Jelly| | I hope. |
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| 23:50.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Good enough reason for me to check |
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| 23:53.25 | kd3 | I still want to be able to open the gates in strat as a zombie |
| 23:54.08 | mikma | bunch of retards cleaning everyone |
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| 23:54.35 | mikma | what's the fun in this event if the doom ain't inevitable |
| 23:54.57 | kd3 | it probably will be... it's day 2 and there's infection points *in* the major cities now |
| 23:55.15 | mikma | now i'm trying to infect all battlemasters |
| 23:55.24 | kd3 | the full-fledged invasion should be soon. there's still datamined rumors of something drastic happening to a few capitals between now and wrath day |
| 23:56.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Gate is still closed |
| 23:56.35 | alestane | Someone said you can get in as a zombie. |
| 23:56.38 | cadey | pretty soon everyone will be a zombie |
| 23:56.40 | ScytheBlade1 | To BB |
| 23:56.48 | kd3 | go to sw. it's closer |
| 23:56.52 | mikma | scytheblade1: what gate? |
| 23:56.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Only kinda |
| 23:57.00 | kd3 | the gate to the crypt |
| 23:57.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Well |
| 23:57.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Teleport |
| 23:57.07 | smcn | there are two separate lich king voiceovers for orgrimmar and stormwind |
| 23:57.12 | smcn | in the mpq |
| 23:57.34 | NightHawkTheSane | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:57.34 | ScytheBlade1 | SW it is |
| 23:57.49 | NightHawkTheSane | the only one i've seen.. in two years.. |
| 23:57.51 | cadey | :( |
| 23:58.10 | kd3 | night; are you trick-or-treating? that's where I got mine from |
| 23:58.17 | NightHawkTheSane | kd3: nah, doing HH right now |
| 23:58.36 | NightHawkTheSane | kd3: i've yet to see anything other than candy/toothpicks from trick or treating, but im doing it as often as i can manage |
| 23:59.01 | kd3 | I /still/ freaking need the toothpick. >.< |
| 23:59.13 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: That's how I felt when the mount dropped last night :( |
| 23:59.26 | NightHawkTheSane | kd3: o_0 you're kidding me. i've got like a hundred |
| 23:59.38 | kd3 | 0 |
| 23:59.42 | kd3 | 2 masks |
| 23:59.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: yeah, but the mount is new this year. i -never- saw a squashling last year either |
| 23:59.51 | kd3 | bunch of bags |
| 23:59.51 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 23:59.52 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11675541045&sid=1&pageNo=3#55 |
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| 23:59.57 | Dewin | I've seen 1 hallowed helm in ~25 HH runs. I rolled a 1. |
