| 00:00.18 | ievil | hahhaha |
| 00:00.21 | ievil | veldig bra |
| 00:00.53 | |pez| | I loled, but also feel sorry for the poor animal XD |
| 00:00.59 | ievil | idd |
| 00:01.17 | NightHawkTheSane | |pez|: what the crap? :P |
| 00:01.35 | NightHawkTheSane | im not sure i can feel sorry for anything that stupid :P |
| 00:01.36 | Yssaril | anyone have any suggestions for a mod that autorepairs and sells all grey junk when i am at a vendor? |
| 00:01.38 | |pez| | NightHawkTheSane: dude wakes up, and finds the horse stuck in a tree. |
| 00:02.01 | End | wtf |
| 00:02.14 | NightHawkTheSane | Yssaril: tekJunkSeller works rather nicely to sell grey items. There's a LOT of auto-repair mods out there, I currently use Attrition |
| 00:06.26 | ievil | server restart |
| 00:11.00 | Tekkub | anyone had reports of addons not saving their savedvars correctly? |
| 00:11.21 | Tekkub | I've had a rash of reports on Squeenix, and the only thing I can tell is that the SV aren't getting saved out |
| 00:12.16 | Adys | Tekkub: some getting their settings reset there |
| 00:12.21 | Adys | on login |
| 00:12.28 | Tekkub | every time? |
| 00:12.44 | Adys | yeah. not me but some friends |
| 00:13.21 | Tekkub | okey, if it's a bigger issue I don't feel bad closing out the tickets then :P |
| 00:14.05 | bleeter | not saving settings? sounds like a certin bloody trojan... :/ |
| 00:14.53 | Tekkub | yea well, I ain't going there |
| 00:15.05 | Tekkub | just want to confirm that it's likely not my problem :) |
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| 00:18.22 | ZorbaTHut | anyone know if UI mods can /inspect on their own? |
| 00:18.38 | Xinhuan | yes they can |
| 00:18.39 | End | well |
| 00:18.45 | End | tooltip addons tend to show spec |
| 00:18.53 | End | for mouseover |
| 00:19.17 | ZorbaTHut | huh, I should get one of those |
| 00:20.47 | bleeter | Tekkub: fair enough, i wouldn't wanna go there either ;) |
| 00:23.35 | bleeter | '/ has gone 1388 days without being checked, check forced' lol |
| 00:23.49 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 00:25.58 | Kaso | http://pastey.net/2627 this was a hilarious way to do a [isflyable] macro before that was available. |
| 00:28.37 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm.. looks liek the new shadow stuff doesnt handle multiple levels real well |
| 00:29.08 | NightHawkTheSane | im in Scholo, on that bridge at the very start of the instance, and i can see shadows for the mobs on floor below me |
| 00:32.03 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Been that way for a while |
| 00:32.27 | Xuerian | Since shadows were introduced, in fact >.> |
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| 00:41.09 | NightHawkTheSane | they weren't implemented for a while on osx clients, and i only now noticed that particular thing anyway |
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| 00:47.12 | linear` | does blizz make it so they can hide partyframes whenever they want |
| 00:47.16 | linear` | in their code |
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| 00:49.49 | AbsoRayne | blah |
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| 00:57.08 | Tem|laptop | can someone do me a favor? |
| 00:57.32 | Tem|laptop | I just drycoded an update for TradeTabs |
| 00:57.49 | Tem|laptop | I'm stuck in class and I want to have this update ready for release before I go home |
| 00:58.13 | Tem|laptop | would anyone mind installing the beta version I just put up on wowi to see if it works? |
| 00:58.42 | kd3 | whee... we just pulled akama's whole room and aoe'd it down |
| 01:02.16 | Lunessa | night all. |
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| 01:02.27 | NightHawkTheSane | ugh. HUGE instance lag.. >< |
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| 01:06.42 | Xuerian | Mmmm, head explody |
| 01:07.10 | Xuerian | Fringe, anybody else? |
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| 01:08.56 | kd3 | whee. 81 second akama kill. >.> |
| 01:09.11 | Duman | wow |
| 01:09.15 | Duman | Gilneas just crashed |
| 01:09.26 | Duman | OFFLINE |
| 01:10.23 | Mikk | This is what PTRs / beta realms are for! \oY/ |
| 01:10.59 | Codex| | what are the best classes to cast focus magic on? |
| 01:11.34 | Mikk | everything with a mana bar except huntards |
| 01:11.48 | NightHawkTheSane | if you want them to crit fast so you can get the buff, ele shaman, or oomkin |
| 01:12.11 | NightHawkTheSane | but really, any dps caster would probably work |
| 01:13.34 | Mikk | except possibly affli locks and shadowpriests |
| 01:13.45 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah.. |
| 01:13.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Tem|laptop: it seems to work fine for me |
| 01:14.10 | Mikk | hm wait.. won't frostmages be critting a lot more in e.g. bossfights now? |
| 01:14.16 | Tem|laptop | NightHawkTheSane, wow... |
| 01:14.20 | Tem|laptop | no errors? |
| 01:14.24 | NightHawkTheSane | no errors |
| 01:14.24 | Tem|laptop | does it work for Inscription? |
| 01:14.32 | NightHawkTheSane | uh, didn't check that, sec. |
| 01:15.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: hmm, well yeah, more than they used to. im not sure what fingers of frost averages out to though. |
| 01:15.26 | Tem|laptop | What's the most improbable thing that's ever happened to you? |
| 01:15.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Tem|laptop: ah, it does NOT work for inscription, but i dont get any errors |
| 01:15.38 | Tem|laptop | okay |
| 01:15.51 | Tem|laptop | do you have Devtools installed? |
| 01:16.05 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 01:16.08 | Tem|laptop | what language is your client? |
| 01:16.15 | NightHawkTheSane | enUS |
| 01:16.28 | Mikk | Codex|: Actually, a holy paladin is probably also a VERY good bet. |
| 01:16.35 | Mikk | Unless he's an idling f*ker |
| 01:16.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: ooh, good call |
| 01:16.43 | Tem|laptop | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:17.15 | NightHawkTheSane | [18:17:01] "Inscription", "Apprentice", "Interface\\Icons\\INV_Inscription_Tradeskill01", 0, false, 0, 0, 0, 0 |
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| 01:18.16 | Tem|laptop | NightHawkTheSane, how did you test? |
| 01:18.21 | Tem|laptop | did you just go learn inscription? |
| 01:18.28 | Tem|laptop | or did you log into a toon that already knew it? |
| 01:18.33 | NightHawkTheSane | no, i'm on my character with 358/375 inscription |
| 01:19.08 | Tem|laptop | try a reload |
| 01:19.50 | Tem|laptop | NHTS, check in your spellbook. What's the name of the spell that opens inscription for you? |
| 01:20.13 | Tem|laptop | (also, I hope I haven't assumed the wrong thing when you said 'it doesn't work for inscription') |
| 01:20.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Inscription(Master) |
| 01:20.22 | Tem|laptop | (I assumed you didn't get a tab for inscription) |
| 01:20.35 | NightHawkTheSane | thats what i meant, yes, I don't get a tab for inscription. |
| 01:21.12 | Tem|laptop | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:21.26 | Tem|laptop | where X is the location of Inscription in your spellbook |
| 01:21.59 | NightHawkTheSane | "Inscription","Master" |
| 01:22.30 | Tem|laptop | I have no idea why it's not working then |
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| 01:22.42 | Tem|laptop | NightHawkTheSane, where did you download it? |
| 01:22.48 | NightHawkTheSane | wowinterface |
| 01:22.54 | Tem|laptop | did you grab the beta version? |
| 01:23.16 | NightHawkTheSane | >.> ah, no. :P |
| 01:23.21 | Tem|laptop | =P |
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| 01:24.15 | NightHawkTheSane | well you didn't specify beta, so i just grabbed the latest release ;) |
| 01:24.22 | Tem|laptop | I totally did |
| 01:24.29 | Tem|laptop | maybe I failed in this channel |
| 01:24.35 | Tem|laptop | but I know I said beta at least once |
| 01:24.44 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, no, you did, i'm just an idiot. |
| 01:24.54 | Tem|laptop | =P |
| 01:25.00 | Tem|laptop | I could have been more clear |
| 01:26.10 | NightHawkTheSane | okay, yeah, that works fine with inscription, no errors. |
| 01:26.56 | Tem|laptop | What is the most improbable thing that's ever happened to you? |
| 01:27.07 | Tem|laptop | >I updated my addon without testing and everything worked |
| 01:28.12 | NightHawkTheSane | heh. |
| 01:28.39 | NightHawkTheSane | >.> wow, glyph of barbaric insults dropped to a whopping 22 silver on my server. |
| 01:28.42 | Mikk | No, that's one of murphy's laws of programming - if by some dark magic your program compiles/seems to function right away, there WILL be insidious data-eating bugs that will be impossible to hunt down |
| 01:28.55 | molgar | is there any way to test addon for error while maintenance ? |
| 01:29.00 | batrick | man this wow lag is impressive |
| 01:29.08 | NightHawkTheSane | and yet, somehow, glyph of cleaving is going for 10+g? |
| 01:29.15 | batrick | it's almost as bad as the first weeks |
| 01:29.21 | Mikk | molgar: "luac -p addonFile.lua" |
| 01:29.24 | Mikk | that catches lua syntax errors |
| 01:29.37 | molgar | thx alot dude |
| 01:30.14 | Mikk | molgar: http://luaforge.net/projects/lua-wow |
| 01:30.24 | molgar | cheers :) |
| 01:37.03 | Tem|laptop | Thanks again, NightHawkTheSane |
| 01:37.07 | Tem|laptop | yay class over |
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| 01:47.52 | Mikk | Er nuts.. mocking blow usable in defensive stance |
| 01:47.59 | Mikk | + barbaric insults |
| 01:48.21 | Mikk | "Hai, I keep aggro by taunting, cba to do anything else" |
| 01:49.12 | Mikk | Hell, forget barbaric insults, with 8s cd on taunt, taunt+mocking blows alone is enough to guarantee the mobs never goes anywhere else |
| 01:49.38 | Mikk | Oh wait... MB has a cooldown too :P |
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| 01:50.41 | kd3 | wtb group amp magic buff |
| 01:53.18 | Duman | dude, w/ the changes to threat and tank dps (at least for warrior/pally), you never need to taunt |
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| 01:58.58 | Tem | lawl |
| 01:58.58 | Tem | http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/2763/pvpkeybindingsvo5.jpg |
| 01:59.57 | kd3 | heh, I was expecting a keyboard with all 'death coil's on it, except for 1 called 'qq on forum' |
| 02:00.36 | Xuerian | tem: lolwut, it r rong. |
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| 02:00.47 | Xuerian | huntars only has 1 butn! |
| 02:01.01 | Xuerian | beasty rath hrr hrr >_> |
| 02:02.17 | Codex| | how is this possible |
| 02:02.19 | Codex| | im in a raid |
| 02:02.26 | Codex| | and i have so many auras and totems on me |
| 02:02.30 | Codex| | none of my talents will rpco |
| 02:02.32 | Codex| | proc :/ |
| 02:02.35 | kd3 | lol |
| 02:02.52 | Tem | Codex|, prove it |
| 02:02.57 | Tem | otherwise, you're full of shit |
| 02:03.06 | Codex| | i havent had a single mage talent proc |
| 02:03.09 | Codex| | in an hour in here |
| 02:03.14 | Tem | prove it |
| 02:03.15 | Codex| | cuz my bar is full of auras and totems |
| 02:03.18 | Tem | prove it |
| 02:03.23 | Codex| | how would you like me to do that? |
| 02:03.30 | kd3 | grep your /combatlog |
| 02:03.32 | Tem | (you can't, because you're wrong anyway) |
| 02:04.02 | Codex| | only time my mage talents are proccing is when my bar isnt fool of totems and auras |
| 02:04.12 | Tem | no. |
| 02:04.17 | Codex| | full* |
| 02:04.28 | Tem | Onyxia deep breaths more when you don't have enough dots on her. |
| 02:04.41 | NightHawkTheSane | so, at best, you're just saying that your buff display isn't showing all your buffs |
| 02:04.54 | Codex| | its showing 16 |
| 02:04.55 | Codex| | whats max? |
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| 02:05.09 | NightHawkTheSane | well more than 16. |
| 02:05.38 | Codex| | that could be it >.> |
| 02:05.40 | kd3 | s/b 24 or 32 |
| 02:05.56 | kd3 | max debuffs is 40 |
| 02:06.10 | NightHawkTheSane | I think max buffs is around 32 |
| 02:06.15 | Codex| | yea that was why :) |
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| 02:06.54 | NightHawkTheSane | i know that issue came up pre-tbc, and they did a lot of work to make it near impossible for you to hit the max |
| 02:07.31 | kd3 | back when tanks were losing flasks in naxx... >.> |
| 02:07.40 | NightHawkTheSane | although, im sure these days we're a lot closer than we used to be.. |
| 02:08.36 | Codex| | and any reason why in aq40 glyph of imp scorch is not, in fact, applying 3 debuffs? or does itj ust not work on bosses? |
| 02:08.59 | kd3 | is another mage doing the frost version? |
| 02:09.00 | End | the default ui looks it can show 32 buffs :P |
| 02:09.07 | End | looks like* |
| 02:09.28 | Codex| | maybe kd3, ill check |
| 02:09.37 | Codex| | im usign xperl |
| 02:09.45 | Codex| | thats probly why |
| 02:09.47 | Codex| | lol |
| 02:09.58 | Codex| | yep frostie in here |
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| 02:34.11 | Syzgyn | Wow, BT is a joke now |
| 02:34.22 | Corrodias | bittorrent always was a joke |
| 02:37.00 | Codex| | what does it mean when only certain text in game appears to be distorted |
| 02:37.00 | Codex| | http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g255/Codexius/Untitled.jpg |
| 02:37.48 | Codex| | you cant see it very well in the pic |
| 02:37.54 | Codex| | but it appears to have distortion behind it |
| 02:39.32 | NightHawkTheSane | it means your computer is about to explode, i suggest you run and hope the shrapnel doesn't sever an artery. |
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| 02:42.41 | vithos | Codex|: your screenshot needs less jpeg artifacts |
| 02:43.42 | NightHawkTheSane | (wts png0 |
| 02:43.48 | NightHawkTheSane | s/0/)/ |
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| 02:59.59 | NightHawkTheSane | this is kind of amusing.. |
| 03:00.00 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/screenshots/89174d1222536838-funny-strange-random-pics-sonic__s_eye_infection_by_bonus_kun.png |
| 03:08.45 | Syzgyn | Rofl, critical errored out while MTing council |
| 03:08.58 | kd3 | oooh |
| 03:09.04 | Syzgyn | at like 15% |
| 03:09.07 | Syzgyn | and they killed em easy |
| 03:09.10 | kd3 | rofl |
| 03:09.49 | Syzgyn | We've cleared through council in about an hour and a half |
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| 03:23.33 | Lothaer | ~seen Kaelten |
| 03:23.37 | purl | kaelten <n=Kaelten@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/WoWIFA/CurseStaff/kaelten> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2h 52m 48s ago, saying: 'they should be if the open flag is checked'. |
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| 03:30.15 | Codex| | kd3: it appears all BOSS lvl monsters, the glyph of imp scorch does not apply 3... there was no frost mage apply his thing |
| 03:30.28 | Codex| | normal mobs are fine with it |
| 03:30.29 | Codex| | :/ |
| 03:31.09 | kd3 | to the bug reports forum with you |
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| 03:32.48 | Codex| | # Invalid account name or password when loggin into forum |
| 03:32.50 | Codex| | :? |
| 03:33.03 | Codex| | :/ |
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| 03:35.06 | Codex| | maybe its supposed to not work on bosses |
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| 03:36.17 | Kinkx | noob question, why do you need, "this" in SetScript("OnEvent", function(this, event, arg) ? |
| 03:36.39 | Qzot | Anyone here had trouble using mounts from macros? |
| 03:37.56 | Kinkx | Yea, /use <mount name> doesn't work for some people |
| 03:38.04 | vithos | i did for a while, then after rewriting my macro a bunch it started working again.. though i don't know why. |
| 03:38.54 | Kinkx | I use this, where the number in CallCompanion(t, <number>) is the location for your ground/flying mounts: /run local t = "MOUNT"; if SecureCmdOptionParse("[outdoors,flyable,nomounted]") then CallCompanion(t, 2) else if SecureCmdOptionParse("[outdoors,nomounted]") then CallCompanion(t, 1) end; end |
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| 03:40.19 | |Yssaril| | vithos: if you had a token and a mount at the same time it would chose the wrong one (even if it was at the back or you destroyed it till you restarted the game) you could actually just put () after the name and it would work |
| 03:40.35 | |Yssaril| | Kinkx: tell them to put () behind it |
| 03:42.18 | Qzot | Tried 0. Failed. |
| 03:43.11 | vithos | makes sense |
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| 03:43.56 | vithos | not 0, "(" and ")" |
| 03:57.57 | Qzot | Works! |
| 03:58.27 | Shirik | ~~~~~~~ |
| 03:58.28 | purl | ACTION lets a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh eat shirik. |
| 03:58.30 | Shirik | did you all miss me? |
| 03:59.01 | Dreagar | I don't suppose someone could help me Troubleshoot an error i can't get rid of coming from tomtom.? :) |
| 03:59.08 | Dreagar | Clad's asleep |
| 03:59.19 | NightHawkTheSane | i missed you Shirik |
| 03:59.22 | Shirik | <3 |
| 03:59.31 | Shirik | Antiarc: ping |
| 03:59.41 | Antiarc | Pong |
| 03:59.47 | Shirik | you wanted my stuff yes? |
| 04:00.07 | NightHawkTheSane | everyone wants your stuff. |
| 04:00.07 | Antiarc | Please, cheald at gmail, or just query me |
| 04:00.19 | Dreagar | um. nevermind. |
| 04:00.29 | Dreagar | :( i'm an idiot |
| 04:01.36 | Shirik | unfortunately I lost the installer, Antiarc, however I think you shouldn't need it I can just send you the program files |
| 04:01.51 | Antiarc | That's fine |
| 04:03.40 | ScytheBlade1 | "Stuff" eh |
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| 04:08.21 | Shirik | Antiarc: is 30MB, I can't email it |
| 04:08.25 | Shirik | can you accept DCC? |
| 04:08.29 | Antiarc | I can't :/ |
| 04:08.33 | Antiarc | Rapidshare it or something? |
| 04:08.40 | Shirik | I can put it on my server |
| 04:08.44 | Antiarc | kk |
| 04:09.40 | Shirik | bash: scp: command not found |
| 04:09.42 | Shirik | ............. |
| 04:11.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Wait, am I reading this right? incgamers published a notice that they were hosting infected software? |
| 04:12.12 | End | ...I hate being ML |
| 04:12.22 | End | they made me ML and our first glaive dropped |
| 04:12.32 | Cairenn | ScytheBlade1: yes |
| 04:12.39 | Dreagar | ok. i'm not an idiot. dangit. |
| 04:12.40 | kd3 | o_O |
| 04:12.42 | ScytheBlade1 | o_o |
| 04:12.43 | kd3 | gasp |
| 04:12.49 | kd3 | they actually admitted it for once? |
| 04:12.50 | Sixen | egad |
| 04:12.51 | NightHawkTheSane | End: this is one of the reasons loot systems were invented, so (theoretically) any idiot could ML and get it right |
| 04:12.51 | Cairenn | yeah, I know |
| 04:13.05 | Cairenn | only took being brow beaten into it, but yes |
| 04:13.08 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: the cynic in me is saying "ha, that's because it wasn't -their- software" |
| 04:13.23 | Antiarc | ScytheBlade1: Link! |
| 04:13.29 | ScytheBlade1 | wowui.incgamers.com |
| 04:13.35 | ScytheBlade1 | It's... on their home page |
| 04:13.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Which only adds to the o_o factor |
| 04:14.02 | Cairenn | it's on their front page as well (or at least, it was) |
| 04:14.11 | Cairenn | not just on wowui.incgamers |
| 04:14.34 | ScytheBlade1 | That means the o_o goes to a 0_0 |
| 04:14.52 | Antiarc | Wow. |
| 04:14.54 | Antiarc | That's uh. |
| 04:14.56 | Antiarc | O_O |
| 04:14.58 | Antiarc | @_@ even. |
| 04:15.12 | Shirik | well you see |
| 04:15.16 | Shirik | This time it was pretty obvious |
| 04:15.21 | Cairenn | although I do love how they go on and on about how all the sites get it, blah blah blah |
| 04:15.23 | Shirik | it didn't really take much snooping inside the file |
| 04:15.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, neither did their previous incident :P |
| 04:15.43 | ScytheBlade1 | (incidents?) |
| 04:16.01 | Dreagar | AMG i hate tomtom right now |
| 04:16.01 | Shirik | antiviral stuff didn't catch it before, no? |
| 04:16.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Exactly one product did |
| 04:16.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Of like... 30 |
| 04:16.52 | Syzgyn | Fuuuuuck |
| 04:17.00 | Syzgyn | Our first real time in sunwell |
| 04:17.07 | Syzgyn | Server shutdown: 15 minutes |
| 04:17.27 | Cairenn | "In the four/five years we've been going I think we've had four infection incidents, which considering the amount of files that go up, and the period of time, it's not a bad track record" |
| 04:17.34 | Antiarc | Syzgyn: Which battlegroup? |
| 04:17.38 | Syzgyn | Nightfall |
| 04:17.39 | Antiarc | I just had that pop up, and I'm in Whirlwind |
| 04:17.48 | Dreagar | So my addon sends the waypotin to tomtom. it places it in the right spot, in the right zone. but when you mouseover to see the tooltip for the waypoint, it errors out. and tells me that tomtom is giving a bad argument to floor. which i find out is the distance arg. :( and i can't figure out what i'm doing wrong!! |
| 04:17.52 | cogwheel | Well, at least my cat knows well enough to shit in the smaller basket of clean clothes... |
| 04:18.08 | cogwheel | fitting Cairenn's understanding of >< |
| 04:18.21 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl @ cogwheel |
| 04:19.00 | Shirik | incident* |
| 04:19.18 | Dreagar | argh but the lightheaded ones work fine. wtf. |
| 04:19.19 | ScytheBlade1 | It could be worse |
| 04:19.32 | ScytheBlade1 | You could proclaim that you "scan every file!" right next to _every single file_ |
| 04:19.37 | Cairenn | shouldn't have happened at all :( |
| 04:19.38 | ScytheBlade1 | And then get one that triggers everything up there :P |
| 04:20.43 | Shirik | I feel the need to point out that when it did happen to MMOInterface we immediately removed it and posted a news article indicating the exact problem |
| 04:20.53 | Shirik | no 3 days of "nah you're wrong it's safe" |
| 04:21.03 | Cairenn | meh, old news, beaten to death |
| 04:21.07 | Shirik | yeah |
| 04:21.10 | Antiarc | NEWSFLASH: wowui sucks, news at eleven. Learn what you can do to keep your children safe. |
| 04:21.35 | Cairenn | they owned up this time, it's cleaned up (hopefully) ... onwards and upwards |
| 04:21.44 | cogwheel | stupid canadian bacon and kevin bacon won't let me search for bacon-related movie quotes... |
| 04:22.10 | Shirik | lol |
| 04:23.11 | cogwheel | was trying to find something to put here http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=106126#post106126 |
| 04:23.20 | NightHawkTheSane | i agree, kevin bacon and canadian bacon are both pretty stupid |
| 04:23.47 | cogwheel | bad movie? |
| 04:23.59 | Cairenn | it's not bacon, ffs, it's ham |
| 04:24.04 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^^^ |
| 04:24.06 | cogwheel | that too |
| 04:24.10 | NightHawkTheSane | see, she's canadian and even she knows! |
| 04:24.15 | Cairenn | "Canadian bacon" is a US-ism |
| 04:24.27 | cogwheel | i think that makes my original point even worse |
| 04:24.30 | Cairenn | Canadians sure as hell don't call it that |
| 04:25.01 | NightHawkTheSane | i get annoyed at it myself, and im american. |
| 04:25.03 | Shirik | Cairenn: French don't call it "French Toast" |
| 04:25.05 | Shirik | does that make it wrong? |
| 04:25.06 | cogwheel | if we didn't call it canadian bacon, there wouldn't be a movie named after it, and my search would be easier :P |
| 04:25.30 | NightHawkTheSane | besides, strange brew was a much more amusing movie |
| 04:25.43 | Cairenn | strange brew == rofl |
| 04:27.26 | Cairenn | lol |
| 04:27.52 | kd3 | hm... they're power cycling all realms tonight |
| 04:28.00 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11296509278&sid=1 |
| 04:28.10 | cogwheel | stupid windows updates |
| 04:28.22 | cogwheel | :P |
| 04:28.53 | kd3 | wasn't patch tuesday last week? |
| 04:29.07 | NightHawkTheSane | yes.. |
| 04:29.19 | cogwheel | /headdesk? |
| 04:30.20 | Dreagar | HAHA! I'm the man! it's not my code! It's Clad's fault!!! |
| 04:30.21 | Hirsute | You know the motto of most large companies that produce software: "Never release a product update until it will break at least half of the functions that are not apparently related to the update" |
| 04:30.35 | cogwheel | O.O |
| 04:30.48 | cogwheel | (@ Dreagar) |
| 04:30.56 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: curious as to how effective said Cogrenade is/was |
| 04:31.12 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: (also I <3 you for BuyDropper) |
| 04:31.18 | cogwheel | ScytheBlade1: time stopped for a moment... that's how the grenade works... |
| 04:31.32 | cogwheel | i'm sure widgertick will pick up speed soon (he's just moving VERY slowly atm) |
| 04:31.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh. So it isn't a "muhahahaha BOOM" type grenade? |
| 04:31.45 | Dreagar | :) when you put a waypoint in on a different continent, the crazytaxi arrow doen's come up, and when you mouseover the tooltip it errors out. TomTom throws an error giving the distance as nil instead of a number. |
| 04:31.46 | cogwheel | not yet ;) |
| 04:31.53 | ScytheBlade1 | "yet"... I'm cool with "yet" |
| 04:31.56 | NightHawkTheSane | "We require you to be in combat though so we don't see a lot of hunters bouncing around IF / Org or using it like Blink to goofily speed up travel." man, that's good, the last thing i want to see is hunters reverse-blinking around town |
| 04:32.12 | clad|sleep | Dreagar: whats my fault? |
| 04:32.14 | Dreagar | IE: I'm in shat. put a waypoitn in STV. error! put a waypoint in outland.. works fine |
| 04:32.28 | ScytheBlade1 | clad|sleep: everything |
| 04:32.34 | Dreagar | yay! i was hopin that'd bring ya out. ;) |
| 04:32.41 | ScytheBlade1 | clad|sleep: world hunger, AIDS, the US economic crisis, and all of China |
| 04:32.50 | Dreagar | i'm havin a problem with TomTom clad.. |
| 04:33.05 | *** join/#wowuidev QQngsk (n=Gngsk@c-69-138-214-242.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 04:33.07 | clad|sleep | well i was sleeping and you didn't ping me.. but I was waking up anyway, so dont get too excited |
| 04:33.16 | Shirik | ~weather KDAB |
| 04:33.25 | Shirik | omfg so cold |
| 04:33.32 | Dreagar | oh, okay, well perhaps you can help me figure out what the heck i'm doin wrong then. hehe |
| 04:33.33 | Shirik | no wonder I have a blanket inside... |
| 04:33.40 | clad|sleep | ok |
| 04:33.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Dammit, clad, there was something i wanted to ask you, i think. But i can't remember now. :( |
| 04:33.48 | clad|sleep | shoot, and be quicker :P |
| 04:33.52 | Shirik | Cairenn |
| 04:33.57 | Shirik | what's the temperature up there? |
| 04:33.57 | cogwheel | ScytheBlade1: given that it's widgertick and all, the Cogrenade will commence its final assault Soon™ |
| 04:33.59 | Cairenn | Shirik |
| 04:34.00 | Dreagar | LOL. i'll PM it. |
| 04:34.05 | ScytheBlade1 | hahahahaha |
| 04:34.08 | ScytheBlade1 | I approve |
| 04:34.14 | clad|sleep | no talk now |
| 04:34.18 | clad|sleep | i've got like 45 minutes |
| 04:34.26 | clad|sleep | you just are cock-teasing right now |
| 04:34.48 | Cairenn | 37F atm but wind makes it feel like 26F |
| 04:34.54 | Shirik | omg |
| 04:34.57 | Shirik | how do you live up there? |
| 04:35.08 | Dreagar | ok, my addon used lightheadeds code to put waypoints in using tomtom. i'm standing in shat, the waypoint goes in to STV. goes to the right zone, the right spot. note comes up. but error comes out. |
| 04:35.13 | Cairenn | lots of heavy sweaters |
| 04:35.15 | Sixen | Gee, reminds me of home.. (New Jersey) |
| 04:35.16 | Shirik | oh |
| 04:35.22 | ScytheBlade1 | and wow @ http://xkcd.com/ |
| 04:35.25 | ScytheBlade1 | That's... ................. |
| 04:35.27 | Shirik | I'm wearing my "Resistance is futile" t-shirt and shorts |
| 04:35.37 | Dreagar | Error says that floor on line 573 of tomtom.lua got nil expected a number. it's a distance variable that's showing up nil. |
| 04:35.47 | ANTRat | the amount of spam in /trade gets exponential as the server says its going down in 15 seconds |
| 04:35.53 | Shirik | it's ok Cairenn |
| 04:35.54 | Cairenn | ScytheBlade1: lol |
| 04:35.55 | Shirik | it's cold here too |
| 04:35.56 | ANTRat | i'd really like to graph that |
| 04:35.56 | Dreagar | It never used to do that. plus the taxi arrow doesn't come up. |
| 04:35.58 | Shirik | I have a blanket |
| 04:36.08 | NightHawkTheSane | see, thats why I like seattle, it's the happy medium between too-damn-cold, and too-damn-hot. |
| 04:36.10 | Dreagar | but it works fine if i put up wayptoins in outland. |
| 04:36.11 | clad|sleep | Dreagar: you have an addon conflict, almost certainly |
| 04:36.13 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: What he fails to mention is that he is not allowed to actually drop that on the board |
| 04:36.32 | clad|sleep | TourGuide has used TomTOm for quite some tijme, and I have used it personally to level in STV |
| 04:36.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: pfft details |
| 04:36.42 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: also.. <3 friday's xkcd |
| 04:37.14 | Dreagar | all iahve runnin is mine and tomtom. and it worked great till the patch. :( just seems like when i put a waypoint in a continent i'm not on it can't calc the distance? |
| 04:37.31 | Dreagar | i'm gonna turn off everything but tomtom and test my theory. one sec. |
| 04:37.44 | clad|sleep | that would make sense... but it would be a chance in astrolabe |
| 04:37.49 | clad|sleep | TomTom does none of this |
| 04:37.59 | Shirik | ok then |
| 04:37.59 | Shirik | nini |
| 04:38.09 | Shirik|zZz | Antiarc: did you get it yet? |
| 04:38.14 | Shirik|zZz | I'd prefer to delete that from my server :) |
| 04:38.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Delete what?! |
| 04:38.25 | Dreagar | yeah, i've seen that. :( that's why i'm wondering when i haven't changed the code why it don't work, and figured you would wanna know if tomtom isn't workin right |
| 04:38.59 | Dreagar | same error when just tomtom is loading. |
| 04:39.00 | NightHawkTheSane | i want to murder whoever thought 'penny pouch's were a good idea |
| 04:39.22 | cladhaire | Dreagar: _what_ error |
| 04:39.23 | molgar | lol |
| 04:39.30 | Hirsute | Those the 1 slot bags, NightHawkTheSane? |
| 04:39.30 | cladhaire | oh |
| 04:39.32 | cladhaire | lin e573 again |
| 04:39.52 | cladhaire | it can't be 573 |
| 04:39.52 | cladhaire | so |
| 04:39.58 | cladhaire | please post the real error again |
| 04:39.58 | Dreagar | standin in shatt, went to map, went to Badlands. ctrl right clicked. error came up. TomTom.lua:567:bad argument #1 to 'floor'(number expected got nil) |
| 04:40.35 | Dreagar | sorry the stack showed 564, then waypoints.lua 286 and 267 |
| 04:40.48 | Dreagar | 564=563 man. fat fingers |
| 04:40.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Hirsute: indeed |
| 04:41.05 | cladhaire | 286 and 267 in which files.. |
| 04:41.10 | cladhaire | there are a number of files, I need that information |
| 04:41.16 | cladhaire | and do you have a reproducable test case? |
| 04:41.54 | Syzgyn | Holy poop: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/10/11676577971-recent-fury-changes.html |
| 04:43.37 | Yssaril | cladhaire: standing in nagrand and added a waypoint in Wetlands gives this error |
| 04:43.38 | Yssaril | http://ace.pastey.net/99195 |
| 04:44.13 | Yssaril | i think thats what Dreagar is talking about |
| 04:44.14 | Dreagar | Right. here's test case. Only TomTom loadin. no other addons. Standing in shat physically. went to the map, went to the badlands. ctl right clicked to add a waypoint, error came up. Error is: TomTom.lua:567:bad arg #1 to 'floor' (number expected got nil)... Cal Stack TomTom.lua:567, TomTom.lua:563..TomTom_Waypoints.lua:286..TomTom_Waypoints.lua:267 |
| 04:44.14 | cladhaire | why is the tooltip callback being called... |
| 04:44.24 | cladhaire | oh hrm |
| 04:44.25 | Dreagar | that's correct yssaril |
| 04:44.27 | cladhaire | control-right-click |
| 04:44.30 | cladhaire | that's how you're adding |
| 04:44.40 | Yssaril | at least i did :) |
| 04:44.42 | cladhaire | does this happen if you add it via commandline? |
| 04:44.43 | Dreagar | even when i use TomTom:AddZWaypoint |
| 04:44.51 | Dreagar | Yes. when you mouseover the tooltip |
| 04:45.21 | cladhaire | I think its only on a northrend split |
| 04:45.22 | cladhaire | err |
| 04:45.23 | cladhaire | outlands |
| 04:45.30 | cladhaire | if you do STV when you're in wetlands, if should work just fine |
| 04:45.31 | cladhaire | and did previously |
| 04:45.35 | cladhaire | if not, its a change in Astrolabe |
| 04:45.42 | cladhaire | but either way I can fix the specific error |
| 04:46.02 | Dreagar | Been beatin my head against this one for all day. lol. yeah. it works fine unless you're on outlands, but i'll check for sure when my sever comes back up they're restarted em all. |
| 04:46.16 | cladhaire | oh then its an edge case |
| 04:46.16 | Nom- | You know it's hot in your office when: the water in your water bottle starts to condense at the top after having evaporated from the bottom. |
| 04:46.28 | cladhaire | since you 1.) have to be crossing the Azeroth/Outlands boundry |
| 04:46.33 | cladhaire | 2.) Mouse over the waypoint |
| 04:46.35 | cladhaire | I never do either |
| 04:46.43 | Dreagar | I would think so, but i assumed there was no way you didn't account for that already, and could swear it used to work. lol. |
| 04:47.14 | cladhaire | commited. |
| 04:47.16 | cladhaire | feed free to test it out. |
| 04:47.35 | Dreagar | actually i know it works. i have literally thousands of peeple usin my addon, and they'd DEFINITELY let me know if it had a problem like that. |
| 04:48.03 | cladhaire | hrm, i have to fix it in one other place |
| 04:49.02 | Dreagar | so it's really not me this time? lol |
| 04:50.05 | cladhaire | there, check that version out and test this |
| 04:50.15 | End | we had to force our warglaive on our rogue CL :P |
| 04:50.53 | Yssaril | btw what is the function to set a waypoint from another addon? |
| 04:50.54 | Dreagar | didja upload it already? |
| 04:50.56 | *** join/#wowuidev WobWork (n=Wobin@203-206-178-228.perm.iinet.net.au) |
| 04:51.20 | Dreagar | TomTom:AddZWaypoint(continent#, Zone#, x, y, waypointnote) |
| 04:52.36 | Yssaril | Dreagar: cool thanks |
| 04:52.51 | Dreagar | Yup, i ripped it right off lightheaded. lol. :) |
| 04:53.58 | cladhaire | Dreagar: no, I said check it out, I won't release until I know it fixes the issuel |
| 04:54.07 | cladhaire | svn://svn.wowinterface.com/TomTom-17/trunk |
| 04:54.12 | Dreagar | oh. lol. ahhh ok. :) |
| 04:54.18 | Dreagar | was wonderin where to get it. lol |
| 04:54.36 | cladhaire | Yssaril: that's specifically to add a waypoint with the default TomTom options and callbacks |
| 04:54.37 | End | why the fuck am I the one handling gems, wws and uploading loot to the website :( |
| 04:54.46 | cladhaire | you can also add waypoints with custom callbacks, as Routes does |
| 04:54.52 | *** join/#wowuidev Wobin (n=Wobin@203-206-178-228.perm.iinet.net.au) |
| 04:55.01 | End | Routes fails at TomTom last I tried |
| 04:55.10 | cladhaire | it shouldn't |
| 04:55.12 | Yssaril | cladhaire: what do you mean with callbacks? |
| 04:55.18 | End | it was, I haven't tried recently |
| 04:55.24 | cladhaire | Yssaril: you should look at the system if you're actually interested |
| 04:56.02 | End | well, now I got Routes to fail in a different way |
| 04:56.07 | Yssaril | cladhaire: not really atm :) i think add/remove will work just fine unless is there a way to not have it show a blip on the map/minimap ? |
| 04:56.18 | cladhaire | of course there is |
| 04:56.21 | Dreagar | Hm. Clad, that's not doin anythin for me. should it be downloadin a file? |
| 04:56.27 | cladhaire | Dreagar: ... huh? |
| 04:56.46 | Dreagar | i think i took stupid pills again. |
| 04:56.50 | cladhaire | Yssaril: TomTom:AddZWaypoint(c, z, x, y, desc, persistent, minimap, world, custom_callbacks, silent, crazy) |
| 04:57.01 | End | oh yay! |
| 04:57.02 | End | it works |
| 04:57.03 | Yssaril | cladhaire: sweet |
| 04:57.11 | ScytheBlade1 | That you did. You need a Subversion client to download from that link. |
| 04:57.13 | End | that's what I get for not trying recently :P |
| 04:57.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, to do it in a non-painful way. |
| 04:57.19 | Dreagar | OH. i dont have that |
| 04:57.30 | ScytheBlade1 | !g svn windows |
| 04:57.30 | batbot | ScytheBlade1: Plugin for Windows Explorer - TortoiseSVN <http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/> |
| 04:57.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Enjoy |
| 04:57.43 | Dreagar | check thanks scythe |
| 04:57.55 | Yssaril | cladhaire: what does persistent mean? |
| 04:58.01 | NightHawkTheSane | hm. they need to let you inspect what glyphs people have |
| 04:58.04 | cladhaire | if the waypoint persists between sessions |
| 04:58.11 | cladhaire | Dreagar: download this file |
| 04:58.11 | cladhaire | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/6f140acec64fa32d971feee824105df5.lua |
| 04:58.14 | cladhaire | Dreagar: and rename it TomTom.lua |
| 04:58.22 | Yssaril | cladhaire: ahh cool |
| 04:58.44 | cladhaire | I've verified that it should work correctly tho, showing "Unknown Distance" |
| 04:59.40 | Dreagar | awesome. thanks clad. lemme just login real fast and hope they're not restartin the one i pick. lol |
| 04:59.56 | cladhaire | I had to login to beta cause eu is down for maint |
| 05:01.01 | Dreagar | Works! Thanks Clad. |
| 05:01.14 | cladhaire | pushed on wowinterface |
| 05:01.18 | Yssaril | cladhaire: am i right to assume that the uid is persistant thru reload as well? |
| 05:01.26 | Dreagar | :) for once it wasn't my code. i can finally go to sleep happy! |
| 05:01.32 | cladhaire | Yssaril: you would be incorrect |
| 05:01.40 | cladhaire | its not a guid, just a uid :P |
| 05:01.51 | Yssaril | how do i find my waypoint again after reload? |
| 05:01.52 | cladhaire | although I could probably make proper uids |
| 05:01.56 | cladhaire | you don't |
| 05:02.01 | cladhaire | i.e. you re-set it again |
| 05:02.06 | cladhaire | and make it not persistent |
| 05:02.13 | cladhaire | this is what tourguide does |
| 05:02.20 | Dreagar | or i can go put all the code i took out to see wtf was goin on and then go to bed. lol |
| 05:02.22 | Yssaril | k |
| 05:02.41 | cladhaire | nagrand-50.12-40.32-some-note-here |
| 05:02.49 | cladhaire | i guess i could make uids like that :P |
| 05:03.42 | cladhaire | just didn't really see a need |
| 05:05.24 | cladhaire | its easier to "re-set" your waypoint when the game loads up |
| 05:05.34 | cladhaire | that way, your waypoint doesn't appear when your addon is not loaded |
| 05:06.25 | Dreagar | is there a way to get past the confirm programmatically when you reset all waypoints? |
| 05:06.30 | *** part/#wowuidev Seerah (n=Ryan_L@adsl-177-45-186.mem.bellsouth.net) |
| 05:08.36 | cladhaire | turn the option off |
| 05:08.41 | cladhaire | but you should NEVER do that programatically |
| 05:08.50 | cladhaire | If you want to remove your waypoints, remove them one by one |
| 05:09.02 | cladhaire | you should as a third party addon never try to remove non-controlled waypoints |
| 05:09.03 | cladhaire | so don't |
| 05:09.06 | cladhaire | or i'll kick y0 azz. |
| 05:09.24 | Dreagar | LOL. i see what you're sayin, but ... lol. my users are kinda dumb. |
| 05:09.30 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3 (n=kd3@wikia/kaydeethree) |
| 05:09.48 | cladhaire | this is about your code, not users |
| 05:09.51 | cladhaire | you shouold not be called reset all |
| 05:09.53 | cladhaire | from your addon |
| 05:09.54 | cladhaire | EVER |
| 05:10.00 | Dreagar | I agree. ok. i'll just do it by zone. |
| 05:10.03 | cladhaire | you should iterate YOUR notes (which you should have saved uids to) |
| 05:10.04 | Dreagar | point taken |
| 05:10.05 | cladhaire | no, not by zone |
| 05:10.07 | cladhaire | never |
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| 05:10.16 | cladhaire | you should be adding and removing ONE waypoint at a time |
| 05:10.27 | cladhaire | for the love of god if you cause me support issues because you do it another way, i will bonk you. |
| 05:10.35 | Dreagar | no sir. they come to me. lol |
| 05:10.36 | End | ~bonk Dreagar |
| 05:10.37 | purl | ACTION bonks end on behalf of Dreagar |
| 05:10.42 | End | doh |
| 05:10.49 | End | that wasn't what I intended |
| 05:11.23 | Dreagar | I'll remove em one by one. i was a lil worried about how long it might take, but seeing how they're added it probably wont be a problem |
| 05:11.52 | Dreagar | just have to redo some code, which is OK cause that's what i'm doin anyways. lol. |
| 05:12.23 | Dreagar | and i'll have to figure out how to remove each waypoint cause i haven't done it that way before. but i gots it. hehe |
| 05:12.48 | Dreagar | but since ikeep gettin kicked, and can't stay on a server. tommorrow. :) hehe |
| 05:13.10 | Dreagar | I appreciate you takin the time to hear me out Clad. I know i been a moron all the time i been here. hehe |
| 05:13.56 | Dreagar | but at least yer not still sayin 'go read the pil dummy |
| 05:14.42 | cogwheel | <3 /castsequence Murky, Big Blizzard Bear, Murloc Costume (named "I Am Murloc", no less) |
| 05:15.07 | Dreagar | i'm still waitin for mine in the mail. :( |
| 05:18.10 | Mike-N-Go | I love the harthstone as a healer in PvP. |
| 05:18.25 | Mike-N-Go | I can fake out interupters, and not be interupted. |
| 05:19.33 | Tem | Mike-N-Go, if people are still fooled by that they suck at pvp anyway |
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| 05:21.23 | Dreagar | ok. sleep before i 'splode. thanks again ya'll |
| 05:21.26 | Mike-N-Go | I doubt most check the text to know what the spell is the other is casting. |
| 05:22.43 | End | server shutdown omgs |
| 05:24.35 | NightHawkTheSane | End: you should be Bill Nye, so that way we could say "The End is Nye!" |
| 05:25.05 | End | heh |
| 05:28.01 | NightHawkTheSane | (well i thought it was funny >.>) |
| 05:28.09 | End | it was, a little |
| 05:28.18 | End | but I've heard that joke before :P |
| 05:28.26 | End | that's just a variation :P |
| 05:28.38 | NightHawkTheSane | ah, well.. |
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| 05:36.59 | dokomar | hey guys how would i write out code that would make "TIME_PLAYED_MSG" event fire only upon a levelup? |
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| 05:38.03 | Dewin | Damn, 3k HP left on Netherspite and our server finished shutting down |
| 05:38.21 | Dewin | I told the raid they should have stayed in during banish |
| 05:38.29 | Redguard | lol |
| 05:38.35 | End | ouch |
| 05:38.45 | Dewin | he probably died and won't be lootable when the server comes back up |
| 05:39.07 | dokomar | or perhaps someone can point me to a website with some examples of the coding i would need to execute it? |
| 05:39.39 | Redguard | dokomar: event: PLAYER_LEVEL_UP |
| 05:40.27 | Redguard | just monitor that event and you can do whatever you want |
| 05:40.47 | dokomar | hmmm... |
| 05:41.09 | dokomar | so how would i set it to monitor that event then? any specific way to? |
| 05:41.29 | Redguard | register for that event |
| 05:41.53 | dokomar | done |
| 05:42.18 | Redguard | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_A-Z_(full_list) |
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| 05:44.50 | dokomar | well that tells me what the args do but it doesnt tell me how to write the event |
| 05:44.50 | Neuro_Medivh | sigh... every time I see an adamantite ore node I get excited, thinking it's titanium |
| 05:44.50 | Antiarc | Shirik|zZz: Yeah, I got it |
| 05:45.35 | NightHawkTheSane | "write the event"? |
| 05:46.07 | dokomar | yah u know how to write it out so that way it denotes the argument i need it to do |
| 05:46.48 | cogwheel | my wife is evil... she tells people that Murky is a rare drop from Cookie in the Deadmines |
| 05:47.41 | elite3vil | cogwheel: I tell them I got my Felmyst shield from the TCG |
| 05:47.51 | elite3vil | Our glaive rogue says the same about his glaives. |
| 05:49.21 | End | well |
| 05:49.22 | Redguard | dokomar you basically want someone to write this for you, which I'm not going to do and hopefully no one else will |
| 05:49.29 | End | I was handling loot and he didn't send a tell |
| 05:49.46 | End | and he was like "well, I already got loot tonight, you should give it to this other rogue" |
| 05:49.48 | Redguard | dokomar you were given the information, do a bit of research on lua syntax wowwiki.com is a great reference site |
| 05:49.55 | End | and then when we proded him about it more, he clammed up :P |
| 05:50.01 | End | he seemed happy to get it though :P |
| 05:50.11 | dokomar | that's what i've been doing |
| 05:50.53 | Redguard | look for OnEvent handling |
| 05:51.07 | dokomar | rgr ty |
| 05:53.29 | NightHawkTheSane | End: that seems like half of a conversation. >.> |
| 05:54.28 | Mike-N-Go | What is .. called when used: "onestring".."another string"? |
| 05:54.38 | NightHawkTheSane | concatenation |
| 05:55.09 | Mike-N-Go | Thank you for helping me with the word. |
| 05:56.28 | End | NightHawkTheSane: which part? |
| 05:57.31 | NightHawkTheSane | End: er, everything after "well". it just seems like there should have been a first half to that. perhaps indicating who 'he' was, and waht 'it' was. |
| 05:59.34 | End | oh |
| 05:59.37 | End | I said something earlier |
| 05:59.43 | End | and I think elite3vil was responding to what I said |
| 05:59.47 | End | and so I responded back |
| 05:59.54 | End | oh |
| 05:59.56 | End | I misread |
| 06:00.03 | End | maybe elite3vil was talking about what cogwheel said :P |
| 06:00.12 | Thunder_Child | Le Sigh, a woot off |
| 06:00.22 | NightHawkTheSane | yeh, thats how i took it. what with him prefixing his first statement with cogwheel: |
| 06:00.24 | NightHawkTheSane | ;) |
| 06:00.30 | NightHawkTheSane | a wootoff?! |
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| 06:01.02 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 06:01.16 | Thunder_Child | i love em and hate em |
| 06:01.17 | End | so, tradeskill links are just some magic passed to GameTooltip's :SetHyperlink() function? |
| 06:02.13 | End | Maldivia: poke? |
| 06:02.22 | NightHawkTheSane | End: look up the TradeLinks addon on wowi? |
| 06:02.28 | NightHawkTheSane | i know that does some magic with tradeskill links |
| 06:02.44 | End | I know how the links are built |
| 06:02.50 | End | I want to know the game shows them :P |
| 06:03.06 | End | it looks like when you click on them, they get sent to :SetHyperlink |
| 06:03.22 | End | that's probably useless to me, so I may need a different tactic |
| 06:03.39 | End | which means decomposing them, which I already know how to do |
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| 06:04.34 | End | and yes TradeLinks has the Data.lua bits, but I wanted to know if Maldivia was keeping an easier to reach copy elsewhere or if I'd have to download it and extra the file every build |
| 06:04.46 | End | s/extra/grab/ |
| 06:05.24 | End | I could probably even extract from the dbcs, so I could do it all on my own, but I'm lazy :P |
| 06:06.30 | End | oh I see a LibTradeLinks |
| 06:06.32 | End | I like that |
| 06:06.56 | End | unfortunately I still don't know where the repo is :P |
| 06:11.58 | Sixen | Wow, has anyone noticed the new WoW website login system? |
| 06:12.08 | End | new...as in? |
| 06:12.15 | Sixen | www.worldofwarcraft.com/ptr |
| 06:12.21 | Sixen | It's.. Different! |
| 06:12.35 | End | keylogger! |
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| 06:12.45 | End | that is different |
| 06:15.27 | Redguard | when dealing with frames, if i destroy a parent frame will it recursively destroy and GC the children |
| 06:15.45 | End | destroy a parent frame? |
| 06:15.53 | End | how exactly are you....destroying it? |
| 06:15.57 | Redguard | parent is a reference |
| 06:16.09 | End | you're removing the reference? |
| 06:16.13 | End | that doesn't really do anything |
| 06:16.22 | Redguard | I did not say that |
| 06:16.26 | Redguard | you're trying to read between the lines |
| 06:16.27 | Tem | frames can't be destroyed |
| 06:16.33 | Redguard | I said parent is a reference word |
| 06:16.35 | Redguard | Tem: I see |
| 06:16.50 | Redguard | so you can create them and not delete them |
| 06:16.54 | End | yes |
| 06:16.56 | Redguard | isn't there something wrong with that |
| 06:17.05 | End | which is why I still don't understand how you were "destroying it" |
| 06:17.16 | Redguard | end: don't hurt yourself thinking about that |
| 06:17.18 | Redguard | no worries :P |
| 06:17.41 | End | then |
| 06:17.41 | End | uh |
| 06:17.45 | End | why did you ask the question? |
| 06:17.48 | End | nevermind |
| 06:17.54 | Redguard | end: you are going to overheat your brain there |
| 06:18.00 | Redguard | don't worry :) |
| 06:18.08 | Redguard | i got my answer |
| 06:18.13 | End | I don't think its in danger of being overheated |
| 06:18.43 | End | I guess technically you didn't even ask a question |
| 06:18.54 | End | oh wait, I misread :P |
| 06:19.54 | Redguard | problem.. is solved |
| 06:20.02 | End | well, it doesn't answer -my- question |
| 06:20.11 | End | but I don't really care what the answer is |
| 06:20.31 | Redguard | you seem pretty stuck on this so let me elaborate a bit |
| 06:20.39 | Redguard | "redguard, the answer is you must recycle" |
| 06:20.52 | Redguard | "thank you voice in my head" |
| 06:21.16 | Redguard | this play was sponsored by Toyota (c) |
| 06:21.46 | End | no, I know what my problem is :P you assumed you could do something you could not in your question, and I was wondering how you were "doing" it |
| 06:22.22 | Redguard | in all questions come answers |
| 06:22.29 | Redguard | don't let my fuzzy logic scare you now |
| 06:22.37 | Redguard | I come from different development environments |
| 06:22.47 | End | uh, okay? |
| 06:23.39 | Corrodias | i was born into a world you may not understand |
| 06:24.20 | Redguard | you're canadian? |
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| 06:24.31 | Corrodias | pump up the volume, dance, dance |
| 06:24.33 | Redguard | :) |
| 06:26.41 | Thunder_Child | "Corrodias: i was born into a world you may not understand" seeing as how no one actually understands this world, you are quite correct |
| 06:27.58 | NightHawkTheSane | Redguard: to actually answer your second question, there's only something wrong with that if you misuse frame creation and create a lot of frames unnecessarily |
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| 06:28.46 | Redguard | NightHawkTheSane yea i will be showing and hiding a frame maybe 3-5/second |
| 06:29.01 | Redguard | so I will most definately need to recycle the visible frames |
| 06:29.06 | NightHawkTheSane | but thats showing and hiding. not creating |
| 06:29.08 | Redguard | it's fine though |
| 06:29.10 | Redguard | well |
| 06:29.28 | Redguard | it would have been creating, it is now virtual frame management |
| 06:29.31 | Redguard | ie. recycling |
| 06:29.47 | NightHawkTheSane | well, a) yeah, recycle frames is pretty trivial, so no big deal there. |
| 06:29.52 | Redguard | yea |
| 06:29.58 | Redguard | no big deal |
| 06:30.07 | NightHawkTheSane | but b) if you're just showing/hiding, what's wrong with Show() and Hide() or am i missing something? ;) |
| 06:30.17 | Redguard | you are |
| 06:30.34 | Redguard | but i don't need to go into depth here, it's not relevant |
| 06:30.42 | Redguard | i need to get back to coding* |
| 06:31.08 | Redguard | thanks for the help |
| 06:32.00 | Neuro_Medivh | I am so gonna miss my Magic Broom and it's insta-cast |
| 06:32.05 | Neuro_Medivh | perfect farming mount |
| 06:32.25 | End | I'm too used to my druid though, I keep thinking I can use it while moving |
| 06:32.33 | NightHawkTheSane | Neuro_Medivh: thats what druids are for |
| 06:32.41 | End | it's instant, but you have to stop to use it |
| 06:38.08 | NightHawkTheSane | huh. Apple sold more phones than RIM in this past fiscal quarter. |
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| 06:45.56 | Zapht | Sorry to bug you guys, but is there a quick way in a macro / lua script that I can simply output the years/months/days/hours from a certain date? |
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| 06:56.09 | zenzio | watching people debate Subversion vs. Git is somehow... not very entertaining |
| 06:56.33 | zenzio | generally it goes something like "U" "NO U" "UR MOM" (paraphrased) |
| 06:56.46 | nevcairiel | NO U! |
| 06:57.34 | NightHawkTheSane | zenzio: its kind of like emacs vs vi, coke vs pepsi.. |
| 06:57.43 | zenzio | NightHawkTheSane: yup |
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| 07:05.36 | keias | What kind of argument is that |
| 07:05.41 | keias | Pepsi is disgusting. |
| 07:06.09 | NightHawkTheSane | keias: well, so is emacs and svn, whats your point? :D |
| 07:06.19 | keias | lol |
| 07:08.03 | zenzio | "The war against spelling errors continues: many items have had typos removed or their functionality clarified." o_O |
| 07:08.46 | Tem | okay |
| 07:08.54 | Tem | Arcane Mages are the kings of WSG |
| 07:09.03 | NightHawkTheSane | i would have been amused if there had been a typo in there, zenzio |
| 07:09.08 | Maldivia | hmm, anyone have any information about the API_OnAttributeChanged function (found in SecureHandler.lua) |
| 07:09.15 | zenzio | NightHawkTheSane: hehe |
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| 07:20.44 | Redguard | Maldivia what information would you like |
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| 07:23.31 | Maldivia | Redguard: it was just why it was limited to not be used in combat (it's checking for IsInCombatLockdown) |
| 07:24.07 | Maldivia | Redguard: considering the secure group headers can call it while in combat, if changes happen to group/raid composition |
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| 07:57.50 | AnduinLothar | mmm soloing durn is a cakewalk |
| 08:02.02 | Kalroth | I'd solo you, baby! |
| 08:02.59 | zenzio | AnduinLothar: heroic? |
| 08:03.37 | Kalroth | Durn is a quest mob in Nagrand |
| 08:03.49 | Kalroth | I'd love to see a heroic Nagrand though :d |
| 08:04.15 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 08:04.23 | Kalroth | Nesingwary: "Okay, to prove yourself you have to kill 1000 cows. Bye!" |
| 08:04.37 | AnduinLothar | is it liek the cow level? |
| 08:04.48 | AnduinLothar | if so i can do that with aoe in like 3 min flat |
| 08:04.52 | AnduinLothar | maybe less |
| 08:05.14 | Tekkub | you know, that would make a great nessy quest... have DEHTA infest his camp with chipmunks... |
| 08:05.15 | Kalroth | Nesingwary: "Excellent, you've killed the cows. Now do you see the elemental ridge over there? Kill 1000 of every elemental kind there. What, no flying mount? Too bad!" |
| 08:05.15 | AnduinLothar | depends on if they're holy immune |
| 08:05.22 | Tekkub | kill 1000 chipmunks for nessy |
| 08:06.05 | AnduinLothar | god farming motes on a pvp server was hell |
| 08:06.22 | AnduinLothar | that's prolly the only thing i don't miss from my pvp server |
| 08:07.03 | AnduinLothar | dailies, sure i can handle some pvp. questing, sure gank me.... but when farming.... i'm barely paying attention... i don't want to fuck with horde |
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| 08:07.48 | Kalroth | Nesingwary: "You just don't give up, eh? Okay, the final quest is to /hug 1000 players of the opposite faction -without- getting hit by them and you can't be mounted in any way." |
| 08:08.15 | Kalroth | (I'm on a PvE server, so that one is fine with me :) |
| 08:11.43 | AnduinLothar | oh god. after the elemental quest.... i hate when they make you go back to the place you just were to gather something you could have very easily gotten at the same time as the previous quest |
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| 09:01.37 | Cidan | Oh World of Warcraft |
| 09:01.42 | Cidan | How I am addicted once more. |
| 09:03.20 | cladhaire | heh |
| 09:03.38 | Redguard | clad where do you live |
| 09:03.45 | Redguard | you're up late |
| 09:03.49 | Cidan | He's a brit now |
| 09:03.54 | Redguard | oh ya? |
| 09:03.59 | Cidan | Indeed he is. |
| 09:04.45 | Redguard | I will have to keep an eye on him then |
| 09:08.20 | cladhaire | heh |
| 09:08.26 | cladhaire | we're shifty |
| 09:15.52 | Neuro_Medivh | clad, didn't you used to live in the states? |
| 09:16.22 | cladhaire | Neuro_Medivh: yes, new york |
| 09:16.26 | Fisker- | i feel violated cladhaire :( |
| 09:16.30 | cladhaire | k k Fisker- |
| 09:16.38 | Neuro_Medivh | why the move across the pond? It was for a guy wasn't it? |
| 09:16.46 | Redguard | does WoW have any predefined stack emulation with tables |
| 09:16.58 | Redguard | or do i need to write my own table for that |
| 09:17.01 | cladhaire | Redguard: Lua does... that has nothign to do with wow |
| 09:17.08 | cladhaire | so I don't understand your question |
| 09:17.23 | Redguard | wasnt sure if lua did or didn't, so i figured some lazy person at bliz would have written such a function in case |
| 09:17.29 | Redguard | but if lua already does.. that works for me |
| 09:17.38 | cladhaire | lua> local pop = table.remove; local push = table.insert; local stack = {}; push(stack, "hello"); print(pop(stack)) |
| 09:17.38 | lua_bot | cladhaire: hello |
| 09:18.03 | Neuro_Medivh | also, clad, how's the inscription biz going? Any good ones? |
| 09:18.13 | Fisker- | people were like "lets corpsecamp fisker" |
| 09:18.23 | Fisker- | and i was liek |
| 09:18.24 | MoonWolf | Fisker-, awesome. |
| 09:18.26 | cladhaire | Neuro_Medivh: Ghost Wolf, Scare Beast, Sense Undead, Possessed Strength, Blurred Speed |
| 09:18.28 | Fisker- | "But i'm just trying to fish" |
| 09:18.31 | cladhaire | and one more, just dont remember what it is. |
| 09:18.41 | Neuro_Medivh | Possessed Strength is ass |
| 09:18.46 | cladhaire | indeed |
| 09:18.57 | Neuro_Medivh | Surprisingly, I do brisk business in scare beast |
| 09:18.57 | cladhaire | i'm just keeping the market stocked |
| 09:19.02 | cladhaire | since as long as they sell for more than 10g each |
| 09:19.04 | cladhaire | i'm making a profit |
| 09:19.06 | Fisker- | omg |
| 09:19.08 | Fisker- | i has mr. pinchy |
| 09:19.10 | Fisker- | GIEV PET PLX |
| 09:19.12 | cladhaire | so I have no problem undercutting by 5-10 gold :P |
| 09:19.22 | Neuro_Medivh | yeah, I single-handedly drove the price on most minor glyphs to 15g |
| 09:19.26 | cladhaire | :P |
| 09:19.30 | cladhaire | I'm keeping em around 25 on RC |
| 09:19.50 | Neuro_Medivh | I don't mind someone undercutting me, but I hate it when they do it by a silver |
| 09:19.53 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 09:19.54 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 09:20.01 | cladhaire | I just know they're not on as much as I am |
| 09:20.04 | cladhaire | so I make sure to undercut them |
| 09:20.07 | cladhaire | considering 0 deposit |
| 09:20.08 | cladhaire | why not :P |
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| 09:20.14 | Redguard | Neuro_Medivh keep dropping them |
| 09:20.18 | Redguard | I need some minors |
| 09:20.19 | Neuro_Medivh | Oh, I do |
| 09:20.33 | cladhaire | I dont have thorns or aqua form yet |
| 09:20.34 | Neuro_Medivh | i'm on Antonidas, despite the moniker |
| 09:20.34 | cladhaire | and i need them |
| 09:20.35 | Redguard | do you have the reagent free rebirth one for druids? |
| 09:20.47 | Redguard | ahh |
| 09:20.47 | cladhaire | Unburdened rebirth |
| 09:20.49 | cladhaire | I dont have that yet |
| 09:20.58 | Redguard | ya im on medivh |
| 09:21.04 | Redguard | Neuro_Medivh is false advertising I suppose |
| 09:21.09 | Neuro_Medivh | I got thorns, but apparently 4-5 other people do as well and it's down to 5g |
| 09:21.22 | cladhaire | O.o |
| 09:21.25 | cladhaire | its at 45 on my server |
| 09:21.27 | cladhaire | and I dont know it =/ |
| 09:21.31 | Redguard | lol |
| 09:21.34 | Neuro_Medivh | yeah, I keep it cause it's what I registered as |
| 09:21.37 | Redguard | maybe that's why it is at 45 |
| 09:21.40 | Neuro_Medivh | I told you to make a second toon, clad! |
| 09:22.19 | Neuro_Medivh | heck, you probably have enough ivory/moonlight ink left over to level him to 80 without spending a dime |
| 09:22.49 | cladhaire | I have two toons |
| 09:23.04 | Neuro_Medivh | ahh, ok |
| 09:23.06 | cladhaire | could easily bankroll a third |
| 09:23.14 | cladhaire | but its not a great investment |
| 09:23.14 | Neuro_Medivh | how much cash you made? |
| 09:23.20 | cladhaire | duplication of recipes |
| 09:23.26 | cladhaire | 800ish |
| 09:23.31 | cladhaire | with a decent amount of asserts left |
| 09:23.33 | cladhaire | assets |
| 09:23.42 | cladhaire | oh and I haven't used a single green pigment yet :P |
| 09:23.44 | Neuro_Medivh | took me 4 days before I got any duplicates |
| 09:24.03 | cladhaire | Oh I got dupes immediately |
| 09:24.03 | cladhaire | heh |
| 09:24.22 | cladhaire | but *shrug* |
| 09:24.28 | cladhaire | 2 is good enough |
| 09:24.34 | Neuro_Medivh | the best seller for me has been water shield and mend pet |
| 09:24.36 | cladhaire | if you put time into it, you make money either way |
| 09:24.38 | cladhaire | i dont have either |
| 09:24.40 | Neuro_Medivh | oh, and revive pet |
| 09:24.51 | Neuro_Medivh | mend pet/revive pet, I can't keep in stock |
| 09:24.59 | cladhaire | yeah hunter and druid ones are hugely popular |
| 09:33.39 | Antiarc | http://img263.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot102208014855in9.jpg |
| 09:33.41 | Antiarc | >_> |
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| 09:43.59 | Neuro_Medivh | that better not be no tubgirl shit |
| 09:45.16 | Neuro_Medivh | lol, you added Exocet to your game fonts? |
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| 10:08.26 | Mikk | Aunty Arc doesn't post tubgirl & co |
| 10:08.29 | Mikk | I do |
| 10:08.31 | Mikk | >:] |
| 10:09.23 | Mikk | Best one yet was taking tubgirl and renaming it to funny_car_crash.jpg and posting in the work IRC channel early in the morning, with a message of "Here's some funny shit to watch while you're eating breakfast!" |
| 10:09.36 | Mikk | One guy swore he'd murder me |
| 10:11.07 | haste | mikk mikk mikk u, fxxk u *hums* |
| 10:14.44 | cladhaire | Fisker-: can u stinkbomb southshore for me? |
| 10:31.40 | cladhaire | Fisker-: NO U |
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| 11:10.52 | cladhaire | Yay |
| 11:10.58 | cladhaire | now I just need the Hallowed Helm |
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| 11:20.01 | Mikk | "Both the Hallowed Helm and Sinister Squashling can now be looted from trick or treating innkeepers. I believe this is a hotfix from 22/10 (or 10/21 for US I guess)" |
| 11:20.14 | Mikk | Doh etc |
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| 11:46.01 | Fisker- | ~seen AnduinLothar |
| 11:46.05 | purl | anduinlothar is currently on #wowuidev (1d 10h 9m 40s) #wowace (1d 10h 9m 40s). Has said a total of 76 messages. Is idling for 3h 34m 22s, last said: 'oh god. after the elemental quest.... i hate when they make you go back to the place you just were to gather something you could have very easily gotten at the same time as the previous quest'. |
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| 12:07.01 | Xinhuan | moderator alert |
| 12:07.03 | Xinhuan | moderator alert |
| 12:07.03 | Xinhuan | http://wowui.worldofwar.net/?p=mod&m=6663 |
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| 12:12.15 | nevcairiel | same virus as yesterday |
| 12:14.20 | Xinhuan | did u download it? |
| 12:14.23 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 12:14.28 | Xinhuan | ok time to spam wowui? |
| 12:14.48 | nevcairiel | its a .zip, downloading and putting through a scanner doesnt infect me |
| 12:14.49 | nevcairiel | i hope :P |
| 12:15.17 | Xinhuan | dunno |
| 12:15.20 | nevcairiel | They should really keep logs who the fuck authorizes it |
| 12:15.23 | Xinhuan | it shouldn't |
| 12:15.36 | Xinhuan | but an exe contains more than just executable code |
| 12:15.42 | Xinhuan | such as an icon for windows to display |
| 12:15.46 | Xinhuan | which at least is opened and read |
| 12:15.54 | nevcairiel | i didnt extract it |
| 12:16.01 | nevcairiel | just put the zip in the scanner |
| 12:17.23 | nevcairiel | report it on google malware, imho :P |
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| 12:59.20 | Skyblaze | Does anyone know if there is a way to import past scans over to the new release of auctioneer? |
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| 13:14.11 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning Shirik. |
| 13:14.23 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning zenzelezz. |
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| 13:22.08 | AbsoRayne | Another sleepless night :/ |
| 13:23.43 | Lopeppeppy | That's really going around right now, with the whole season-change thing. *comfort* |
| 13:24.11 | Lopeppeppy | I added in ClassTimers last night, AbsoRayne. Very spiffy. Now all I'm missing is a Pitbull that doesn't freak out on me! |
| 13:24.30 | AbsoRayne | Lopeppeppy: Try downloading rocklib and rocklibconfig |
| 13:24.34 | AbsoRayne | it fixed it for me |
| 13:24.49 | zenzio_ | peppy, make this weird Mac thing accept a real Norwegian keyboard layout >.< |
| 13:25.12 | Lopeppeppy | You don't say, AbsoRayne? Hmm. I will send a Note to Self to go find some libs. Thank you! |
| 13:25.43 | Lopeppeppy | Is that with the newest Pitbull, or with the version packaged in your compilation? Or both? :) |
| 13:25.52 | AbsoRayne | Newest |
| 13:26.19 | Lopeppeppy | zenzio_ dear, I don't know what a real Norweigian keyboard layout is, so I don't know how to convince your Mac of anything, I'm sorry. |
| 13:26.24 | Lopeppeppy | Newest Pitbull it is. |
| 13:27.02 | jnwhiteh | so I am writing JUnit test cases |
| 13:27.14 | jnwhiteh | and I have to run the exact same tests on two different "containers" |
| 13:27.47 | jnwhiteh | I tried to parameterize the container, but it won't let me instantiate an object of the parameter's type |
| 13:29.10 | Lopeppeppy | jnwhiteh, is "instantiate" a word? really and for true? |
| 13:29.29 | jnwhiteh | yes? |
| 13:30.00 | Lopeppeppy | Woot. |
| 13:30.45 | nevcairiel | How would you call it if you create a instance of some object? |
| 13:31.31 | jnwhiteh | http://pastey.net/submit.php |
| 13:31.32 | jnwhiteh | err |
| 13:31.35 | jnwhiteh | http://pastey.net/99221 |
| 13:31.45 | Lopeppeppy | "creating an instance" |
| 13:31.53 | jnwhiteh | for example, I will need to run this EXACT same code on both the Array class, adn the LinkedList class |
| 13:32.05 | nevcairiel | you know, we are lazy, we just invent a new word and make it official :D |
| 13:32.15 | jnwhiteh | I'm tryign to make the test cases sufficiently general for my students, yet without having to duplicate shit |
| 13:32.44 | jnwhiteh | http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/instantiate?o=0 |
| 13:33.00 | nevcairiel | generics no work? |
| 13:33.08 | krka | generics can't do that kind of thing |
| 13:33.20 | jnwhiteh | yeah that's my problem =( |
| 13:33.25 | jnwhiteh | poop |
| 13:33.25 | krka | you could pass along an object of the type into the method |
| 13:34.13 | jnwhiteh | so make a class that contains the test code and just call it from the actual JUnit test classes? |
| 13:34.27 | jnwhiteh | i guess I can do that, but its still duplication of code in a bad way |
| 13:34.44 | krka | no, just a helper method |
| 13:34.48 | krka | could be in the test class |
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| 13:35.26 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
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| 13:36.52 | krka | jnwhiteh: http://pastey.net/99222 |
| 13:36.55 | krka | something like that |
| 13:37.23 | jnwhiteh | aye, makes sense |
| 13:40.04 | AbsoRayne | Lopeppeppy: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kil%27jaeden&n=Manalon Hopeless tanks are Hopeless |
| 13:40.06 | AbsoRayne | -_- |
| 13:40.23 | AbsoRayne | 'im a pvp/prot spec!' |
| 13:42.01 | Lopeppeppy | At least he has Last Stand? *sigh* 53 points does not make you uber. |
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| 13:47.32 | AbsoRayne | its not even that |
| 13:47.38 | AbsoRayne | He has no points in puncture |
| 13:48.09 | AbsoRayne | He never uses devestate |
| 13:48.11 | AbsoRayne | ever |
| 13:48.38 | Lopeppeppy | No... devastate? *tips her head* Okay, um.... |
| 13:48.56 | AbsoRayne | 'heroic strike is more damage' |
| 13:50.16 | nevcairiel | well it is! |
| 13:50.17 | Lopeppeppy | That would be the PVP part of his hindbrain interfering with his tanking decisions. |
| 13:50.40 | AbsoRayne | Cruelty isnt even required for tanking anymore. AttT is tops for threat gain. IMp Spell Reflect is useless. |
| 13:50.47 | AbsoRayne | no points at all in delfection |
| 13:50.51 | AbsoRayne | deflection* |
| 13:51.26 | nevcairiel | cruelty is still nice to have :) |
| 13:54.46 | AbsoRayne | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kil%27jaeden&n=Absolutrayne In my gear, w/o it im pushing 2200-2500 TPS constantly, bursting 3.5 to 4 :/ no cruelty. just AttT |
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| 13:56.11 | nevcairiel | our druid ran 5k TPS last night, it was insane |
| 13:56.46 | nevcairiel | but yeah, threat is easy enough without cruelty |
| 13:57.07 | nevcairiel | however i heard AttT is bugged and not working |
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| 14:07.35 | AbsoRayne | god I need a nap |
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| 14:09.17 | AbsoRayne | ^_^ |
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| 14:12.51 | kneeki | Morning all |
| 14:13.36 | kneeki | Woot off!!! |
| 14:16.08 | AbsoRayne | Someone come to NJ |
| 14:16.13 | AbsoRayne | to make sure I wake up in like 2 hours |
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| 14:18.53 | kneeki | Anyone recommend a random mount addon? |
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| 14:19.54 | Lothaer | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info11323-GhostMount.html |
| 14:19.56 | Lothaer | ghost mount |
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| 14:20.24 | kneeki | hummm |
| 14:20.42 | kneeki | I'll try it out, thanks |
| 14:20.58 | jnwhiteh | Lol |
| 14:21.07 | jnwhiteh | have you read the readme.txt file in the new wowui trojan? |
| 14:21.21 | jnwhiteh | its the wikipedia article on Franz Kafka |
| 14:21.23 | kneeki | cant say I have |
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| 14:23.00 | kneeki | rofl! |
| 14:23.02 | kneeki | Well |
| 14:23.08 | Lothaer | who? |
| 14:23.09 | kneeki | that's one way to ensure the user dismounts, combat or not =p |
| 14:23.17 | Gnarfoz | jnwhiteh: lol wtf |
| 14:23.28 | kneeki | using the /mount land or best macro with GhostMount just summons a pet =) |
| 14:23.42 | Lothaer | meh |
| 14:24.45 | Lothaer | in regards to the wowui trojan Rushster is on top of things and is atm trying to firgure out how it got through |
| 14:25.04 | jnwhiteh | Lothaer: ... then why is it still available to be downloaded? |
| 14:25.20 | jnwhiteh | Im' sorry but if they're aware of it and letting it continue to rack up download count.. that's a problem |
| 14:25.22 | Gnarfoz | I hereby severly condemn your use of "on top of things" |
| 14:25.38 | kneeki | lol |
| 14:26.05 | nevcairiel | indeed, its still online |
| 14:26.30 | jnwhiteh | Yep, I can download it as much as I want |
| 14:26.41 | jnwhiteh | Even if every single INTERNAL link to that file was removed |
| 14:26.45 | nevcairiel | I even mailed rushter directly because he complained noone told him |
| 14:26.50 | jnwhiteh | they're still hosting a trojan that can be linked anywhere. |
| 14:27.19 | nevcairiel | but huh, not trying to flame or anything, but its not the first time *shrug |
| 14:27.47 | jnwhiteh | I'm not flaming, but Lothaer has no right to defend the fact that the file is still available |
| 14:28.03 | jnwhiteh | I was merely commenting on the HILARIOUS setup of the zip file |
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| 14:28.25 | nevcairiel | i only glanced at the readme, didnt actually read the file |
| 14:28.38 | jnwhiteh | liek i said, wikipedia article on franz kafka |
| 14:28.41 | jnwhiteh | amusing :P |
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| 14:29.22 | kneeki | I must say, having your macros backed up on the WoW servers now makes playing on more than one PC friggin awesome |
| 14:31.36 | Lothaer | @jnwhiteh: it is not available for download, when it has been removed form the wowui site but rush has left it as a pending mod, whike he tries to figure out how it got through the virus scan, if people would stop posing links to it like i have suggested then it would not be available |
| 14:31.52 | Lothaer | i have asked rush to remove the links but he is very busy atm |
| 14:33.00 | jnwhiteh | Lothaer: You don't seem to understand.. |
| 14:33.13 | jnwhiteh | Its been posted all over the internet with people warning others |
| 14:33.14 | Seerah | no one should be able to touch it no matter who posts what links |
| 14:33.22 | Lothaer | unfortuneatley the inside the second .zip is a infected compilation of metzremix, the files hosted at WoWInterface is safe |
| 14:33.23 | Seerah | it should be quarantined and/or deleted |
| 14:33.29 | jnwhiteh | then it stands to reason that the person who posted it has ALSO posted all over the internet |
| 14:33.43 | jnwhiteh | which means people will be clicking links to download it, and getting a trojan |
| 14:33.46 | jnwhiteh | this is a Bad Thing(TM) |
| 14:34.09 | jnwhiteh | Keep a copy of the file, then remove it from the server.. leave the addon page up sure.. so you dont have to much with the db.. but kill the file |
| 14:34.17 | jnwhiteh | stop hosting someone else's trojan =( |
| 14:34.37 | Seerah | oh wait... I just found a curse updater on wowui - is this what we're talking about now? |
| 14:34.48 | jnwhiteh | Curse Updater is the new one y eah |
| 14:35.01 | Seerah | lolol |
| 14:35.22 | jnwhiteh | thats the one that says its MetzRemix inside |
| 14:35.55 | Shirik | are you kidding me? |
| 14:35.58 | Shirik | ....... |
| 14:36.21 | Shirik | where is this? |
| 14:36.59 | Seerah | I see the "report this file" link was removed |
| 14:37.08 | Shirik | I have to go; if you have a link can you PM it to me? I'll check it in my logs later |
| 14:39.34 | nevcairiel | Oh well, cooperative people like always |
| 14:39.43 | Lothaer | while mod page is still available i adjusted the download |
| 14:40.15 | jnwhiteh | Lothaer: good, immense step forwards |
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| 14:40.52 | Lothaer | now can people please stop with the wowui bashing |
| 14:41.08 | jnwhiteh | okay listen |
| 14:41.10 | jnwhiteh | no one was bashing. |
| 14:41.12 | jnwhiteh | We were concerned |
| 14:41.17 | Lothaer | not talking about it here |
| 14:41.32 | jnwhiteh | *sigh* |
| 14:41.32 | Lothaer | ive read the wowi thread imho tekkub needs a good kick up the you know what |
| 14:41.53 | jnwhiteh | that's tekkub |
| 14:42.07 | nevcairiel | Well if you dont come up with the idea to remove the file at the moment you realize its a virus, you deserve it :P |
| 14:42.28 | Lothaer | what do you think would happen if wowi got infected and i acted like that |
| 14:42.30 | Seerah | " Mod removed due to infection have a nice day. " is your new downloaded file for that |
| 14:42.35 | jnwhiteh | Lothaer: funny you mention that |
| 14:42.36 | jnwhiteh | we did |
| 14:42.37 | jnwhiteh | and we fixed it |
| 14:42.42 | jnwhiteh | don't talk about what you don't understand |
| 14:42.42 | Seerah | how many people do you think would even bother to download it and open that to read it? |
| 14:42.47 | jnwhiteh | we went through this 189 days ago |
| 14:43.03 | jnwhiteh | you know where I got that number? From wowui's news page, since its still in the last 50 items |
| 14:43.10 | Seerah | as long as that page is even up for people to look at, they're still going to think you're infected |
| 14:43.14 | jnwhiteh | same shit last time.. denial and leaving the file up |
| 14:43.21 | jnwhiteh | of course we're concerned |
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| 14:43.38 | Lothaer | what you mean same shit |
| 14:43.48 | jnwhiteh | This same exact thing happened before |
| 14:43.58 | Seerah | well, we can't point to forum threads because they've been deleted |
| 14:44.01 | Lothaer | whos denying anything this time? |
| 14:44.04 | jnwhiteh | *sigh* |
| 14:44.16 | jnwhiteh | You said "If wowi had got infected" |
| 14:44.16 | nevcairiel | It happens every time when Wowui gets a virus |
| 14:44.19 | jnwhiteh | the point we made 189 days ago |
| 14:44.23 | jnwhiteh | is there is a way to handle these things |
| 14:44.25 | Xinhuan | http://wowui.worldofwar.net/?p=mod&m=6663 |
| 14:44.26 | Xinhuan | rofl |
| 14:44.30 | jnwhiteh | apparently some people refuse to understand this |
| 14:44.31 | Xinhuan | it now says "mod under investigation" |
| 14:44.39 | Lothaer | i did that |
| 14:44.42 | Lothaer | as it is |
| 14:44.46 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 14:44.48 | jnwhiteh | and still says at the top "File scanned and virus checked" |
| 14:44.52 | nevcairiel | its obviously a virus, delete it already <.< |
| 14:44.53 | Xinhuan | you can edit descriptions now? |
| 14:44.54 | jnwhiteh | which one are you going to read first |
| 14:45.04 | Lothaer | <--- admin |
| 14:45.05 | Xinhuan | it should say contains viruses |
| 14:45.10 | Xinhuan | if you are unable to delete it |
| 14:45.13 | Seerah | he changed it to be a text file that says Mod removed due to infection have a nice day. |
| 14:45.17 | Lothaer | the actual download is safe as i changed it myself |
| 14:45.19 | Seerah | but no one will download it and read that |
| 14:45.26 | Xinhuan | i see |
| 14:45.40 | Lothaer | not trying to |
| 14:45.40 | Seerah | for your own good name, just remove the whole page already |
| 14:45.44 | Xinhuan | well the other channel #wowace, has people stating that |
| 14:45.54 | Xinhuan | they got banned from wowui site for using the "digg this" link |
| 14:45.58 | Lothaer | but in the chance that someone does download it, they will not get a virus now will they |
| 14:45.58 | Xinhuan | for the forum post |
| 14:46.02 | Xinhuan | on the virus on wowui |
| 14:46.09 | Seerah | ..... you're still not getting it |
| 14:46.25 | Xinhuan | would you like to comment on the bans? |
| 14:46.29 | jnwhiteh | Lothaer: and how much prodding and poking did it take us to get you to make even that critical of a change? |
| 14:46.36 | jnwhiteh | Honestly, no one is trying to BASH wowui |
| 14:46.38 | Lothaer | none |
| 14:46.43 | jnwhiteh | but when we're banned, and the virus is left up |
| 14:46.49 | jnwhiteh | Lothaer: that's complete and utter BS and you know it |
| 14:46.52 | nevcairiel | Lothaer: it still took you half an hour after you came on <.< |
| 14:46.55 | jnwhiteh | the file was up for over an hour, and we talked about it here for 15 minutes |
| 14:47.01 | Xinhuan | http |
| 14:47.19 | jnwhiteh | It doesn't send a very good message to ban users on the forums rather than actually reacting to the problem |
| 14:47.23 | jnwhiteh | *shruG* |
| 14:47.27 | Xinhuan | i linked it 2 hours and 40 minutes ago in this channel btw ;p |
| 14:47.28 | Lothaer | guys, if it if i was awakew at 5:03 am when blizzaga made the inital report the mod would have been nuke no questions asked |
| 14:47.29 | jnwhiteh | I guess thats my point, same as it was 189 days ago |
| 14:47.35 | *** join/#wowuidev sb (n=sb@sb.stgt.ipv6.sbuehl.com) |
| 14:47.54 | Lothaer | but rushster want to find out how a mod with a virus in it got through in the first place as its not supposed to be able to |
| 14:48.08 | Xinhuan | i will higly suggest you to switch to a manual approval process |
| 14:48.14 | Xinhuan | instead of an automated scanning zip one |
| 14:48.16 | Seerah | so you're saying it's rushter's fault now? |
| 14:48.22 | Seerah | yes. People > computers |
| 14:48.22 | Lothaer | i have asked rush initally to compleletly nuke it but he wants the page up so he can figure out how |
| 14:48.22 | nevcairiel | supposedly they did Xinhuan, but you see how that works |
| 14:48.34 | jnwhiteh | it does happen |
| 14:48.39 | jnwhiteh | even with a manual approval process |
| 14:48.47 | Xinhuan | it does happen, but 3 times in 2 days here? |
| 14:48.51 | Xinhuan | on wowui |
| 14:48.51 | nevcairiel | if your moderators slack, sure :P |
| 14:48.56 | jnwhiteh | the ones that hit wowi a while back did quit a bit of social engineering |
| 14:48.58 | Xinhuan | same virus too, in all 3 cases |
| 14:49.02 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: no, even then mistakes happen |
| 14:49.16 | nevcairiel | not on an obvious virus like this, imho |
| 14:49.21 | jnwhiteh | correct :P |
| 14:49.27 | Xinhuan | yah, one that 18 scanners caught |
| 14:49.28 | nevcairiel | i only had to touch the file link, and even windows defender yelled at me |
| 14:49.33 | nevcairiel | no 3rd party software involved yet! |
| 14:49.40 | Lothaer | and imho if the general community wants to say "here we go again" then thats just not called for |
| 14:49.55 | jnwhiteh | *sigh* |
| 14:50.04 | jnwhiteh | well that community is your bread and butter |
| 14:50.07 | jnwhiteh | and the sole reason the site exists |
| 14:50.08 | Lothaer | wowi and other sites may have mods that monitor the site 24/7 but afaik wowui dosnt have that luxury |
| 14:50.25 | Xinhuan | no Lothaer, you're not getting it, we want to see better security on the site |
| 14:50.32 | nevcairiel | because people *want* to help improve wowi :P |
| 14:50.35 | Xinhuan | its not happening, and viruses keep getting through |
| 14:50.37 | Seerah | we don't want the site taken down |
| 14:50.49 | Seerah | nev meant wowui I think |
| 14:50.50 | Xinhuan | why did wowui approve 3 files in 2 days that contains a virus? |
| 14:51.00 | Seerah | we want wowui to be safe for our members. |
| 14:51.03 | jnwhiteh | This happening is BAD for the community |
| 14:51.04 | Seerah | *the users |
| 14:51.08 | jnwhiteh | and some of us only care about the community |
| 14:51.13 | jnwhiteh | affiliations to websites be damned |
| 14:51.31 | jnwhiteh | if wowi turned into something I didn't support, I would cease to do anything there, plain and simple |
| 14:51.47 | Xinhuan | i have told friends to "download curse updater" for eg, and if they happened to get it through an illegal upload to wowui, gg |
| 14:51.47 | jnwhiteh | if it hurt the community |
| 14:51.47 | Seerah | and you should see how much time I spend at wowace :P |
| 14:51.49 | Lothaer | ok "takes a deep breath" afaik when a mod is uploaded at wowui, it goes through a virus scanner ever before a admin can approve the mod |
| 14:52.28 | nevcairiel | that scanner needs to learn to scan zip files recursively |
| 14:52.37 | Seerah | at any point does the admin open the zip up to see what's actually in there? |
| 14:52.45 | Xinhuan | ok 1. why did the virus scanner not pick up the virus? 2. why did a mod not ask curse.com about the WAU/Curse updaters and their legality? |
| 14:52.53 | Xinhuan | before approving it that is? |
| 14:52.56 | Seerah | legality, too, yes |
| 14:53.12 | jnwhiteh | You guys, these are probably questions to be directed at Rushter or on wowui |
| 14:53.16 | Seerah | true |
| 14:53.18 | jnwhiteh | I'm sure Lothaer is feeling a bit overwhelmed right now |
| 14:53.19 | Lothaer | now if it get through its normally deemed safe, but as a further measure i myself download it BEFORE approving it and scan myself, ALL mods that i have approve have been sage, imho who ever approved the infected mods was careless and needs to back whacked over the head with a blunt object |
| 14:53.47 | Seerah | "all mods have now been sacked" |
| 14:53.59 | jnwhiteh | Humans > Scanners |
| 14:54.10 | Seerah | (sorry, Monty Python reference...) |
| 14:54.10 | jnwhiteh | anyone who even glanced at the file should have seen the problem |
| 14:54.15 | Lothaer | Xinhuan: if it was me that viewed the mod as soon as i saw WAU or curse updater it would be instant DELETE not APPROVE |
| 14:54.18 | jnwhiteh | so I agree, you have a human problem at the very least |
| 14:54.39 | Lothaer | i also agree |
| 14:54.50 | Xinhuan | ok so would you, at least, be able to provide accountability as to where the problem lies in the approval process? |
| 14:54.58 | nevcairiel | rushter replied to my mail claiming its a "loophole" in their page |
| 14:54.59 | Lothaer | but obviously there is a issue with the virus scanner and THAT is what rush is investigating atm |
| 14:55.00 | nevcairiel | but anyway |
| 14:55.02 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/nice_pussy.jpg |
| 14:55.44 | jnwhiteh | I hate not being able to respond to posts on the wow forums wtih "you can also pick up this book, it had four chapters covering the system you're confused about" |
| 14:55.48 | jnwhiteh | =( |
| 14:56.15 | nevcairiel | no us account anymore? |
| 14:56.22 | jnwhiteh | actually I still do |
| 14:56.24 | Xinhuan | pay $12 a month to regain the ability! |
| 14:56.26 | Xinhuan | ;D |
| 14:56.31 | jnwhiteh | but last time I posted there, someone reported it for advertising |
| 14:56.38 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 14:56.38 | Xinhuan | rofl? |
| 14:56.48 | jnwhiteh | I can do it for the Lua book |
| 14:56.51 | nevcairiel | well strictly speaking, you can easily drift in there :P |
| 14:56.51 | jnwhiteh | but I can't do it for our book |
| 14:56.54 | jnwhiteh | because I wrote it |
| 14:56.57 | jnwhiteh | aye, its a gray area |
| 14:57.09 | jnwhiteh | but its frustrating.. considering the people asking these questions are the people we wrote the book for :P |
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| 15:01.44 | |Jelly| | ~hug Peppy |
| 15:01.45 | purl | ACTION hugs Peppy |
| 15:03.02 | Lothaer | wow kaelten |
| 15:03.50 | *** join/#wowuidev Kaelten (n=kaelten@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/WoWIFA/CurseStaff/kaelten) |
| 15:03.50 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 15:13.21 | Lothaer | lol kael |
| 15:13.47 | Fisker- | BEWARE OF TEH TORJANS Kaelten |
| 15:14.01 | Lothaer | ok looks like Rush has nuked the "mod". |
| 15:14.04 | Kaelten | lol me? |
| 15:14.06 | Kaelten | what did I do? |
| 15:14.10 | Elkano | wanna be gifted a wooden horse? |
| 15:14.11 | Lothaer | i read the comments :D |
| 15:14.25 | Fisker- | "Someone has uploaded a torjan on WoWUI.IncGamers.com masking it as a resurrected WowAceUpdater." |
| 15:14.28 | Fisker- | a torjan |
| 15:14.34 | Fisker- | torjan |
| 15:14.45 | Lothaer | ........ u mean curse client |
| 15:16.52 | Fisker- | Kaelten and a dictionary sitting in a tree K I S S I N G |
| 15:17.07 | Lothaer | rofl |
| 15:17.30 | Kaelten | ~lart Fisker- |
| 15:17.30 | purl | slaps Fisker- around with a large trout |
| 15:17.37 | Kaelten | Lothaer: the WAU one was yesterday |
| 15:17.55 | Lothaer | i know |
| 15:18.36 | Lothaer | hey fisker- |
| 15:21.16 | Lothaer | ~poke Fisker- |
| 15:21.16 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Fisker-, pokes Fisker- repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 15:21.38 | Xinhuan | Kaelten has learnt the art of spamming ;p |
| 15:22.00 | Kaelten | Xinhuan: they make it SOOOO EASY! |
| 15:22.01 | Kaelten | omg |
| 15:22.02 | Xinhuan | Lothaer, i'll also suggest some method of controlling how often a addon's comment thread can be posted to |
| 15:22.51 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: just f5 after posting? |
| 15:23.03 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: nope, easier |
| 15:23.13 | nevcairiel | easier thne f5? |
| 15:23.17 | Kaelten | yep |
| 15:23.26 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: their ajax handler just keeps firing off a post everytime you click the submit button |
| 15:23.34 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:24.04 | Kaelten | it doesn't lock itself. |
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| 15:27.16 | *** join/#wowuidev ievil (n=asys@unaffiliated/ievil) |
| 15:27.33 | ievil | just a quick question.. |
| 15:27.44 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm? Ask away |
| 15:27.47 | ievil | what would the name of Button name="$parentButtonUpdate" be? ;) |
| 15:28.13 | ievil | for doing SetTextColor(0.0,1.0,0.0); and SetHighlightTextColor(0,1,0); |
| 15:29.15 | jnwhiteh | the name of its parent, with "ButtonUpdate" appended to it would be its name |
| 15:29.21 | jnwhiteh | which you can then lookup using getglobal |
| 15:30.47 | ievil | hmm highest frame seems to be |
| 15:30.48 | ievil | <Frame name="autoInviteMainConfigFrame" frameStrata="MEDIUM" hidden="true" toplevel="false" enableMouse="true" movable="true" parent="UIParent"> |
| 15:31.05 | jnwhiteh | not the highest |
| 15:31.07 | jnwhiteh | the next level up |
| 15:31.21 | ievil | yea, what I meant ;) |
| 15:32.29 | ievil | since the this:SetTextColor(1,0.82,0); dont work anymore on those objects |
| 15:32.35 | jnwhiteh | use self |
| 15:32.44 | jnwhiteh | like you shoudl have been using all along :P |
| 15:32.49 | ievil | not me ;) |
| 15:33.00 | jnwhiteh | no really, you should use self. |
| 15:33.04 | jnwhiteh | its the correct way to do this |
| 15:33.13 | ievil | jnwhiteh, I am just fixing a broken addon ;) |
| 15:33.21 | jnwhiteh | where in the code is this |
| 15:33.23 | jnwhiteh | in the XML? |
| 15:33.27 | ievil | in the lua |
| 15:33.32 | jnwhiteh | pastey.net the code |
| 15:33.37 | jnwhiteh | and point to specifically the issue |
| 15:33.46 | jnwhiteh | and we'll tell you how to fix that, and you can learn howt o apply that to fix other spots :P |
| 15:34.19 | ievil | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/99230 |
| 15:34.41 | ievil | usually do things differently, or use ObjectName:SetText |
| 15:34.52 | ievil | autoInvite is sadly quite old |
| 15:35.04 | jnwhiteh | is what you have there the old code? |
| 15:35.11 | jnwhiteh | and where is this code called from? |
| 15:35.48 | ievil | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/99231 |
| 15:35.57 | ievil | I've replaced the this with self |
| 15:36.03 | jnwhiteh | don't do that |
| 15:36.09 | jnwhiteh | replace "this" with "frame" or "button" |
| 15:36.21 | jnwhiteh | and in the XML do autoInvite:updateButton_OnClick(self) instead of autoInvite:updateButton_OnClick() |
| 15:36.26 | jnwhiteh | 'frame' is the better name |
| 15:36.29 | jnwhiteh | in this case |
| 15:36.34 | jnwhiteh | or hell |
| 15:36.36 | jnwhiteh | easier change |
| 15:36.39 | jnwhiteh | don't do anythign to the .lua |
| 15:36.48 | jnwhiteh | well one change :P |
| 15:36.53 | ievil | just the one to XML? |
| 15:37.02 | ievil | and leave the self ones to xml |
| 15:37.09 | ievil | to lua I mean |
| 15:37.10 | ievil | lol |
| 15:37.22 | jnwhiteh | well given that this function has an arg that isn't specified there |
| 15:37.25 | jnwhiteh | we'll haev to add it to the end |
| 15:37.34 | jnwhiteh | in the lua function autoInvite:inviteButton_OnClick(status) -> function autoInvite:inviteButton_OnClick(status, this) |
| 15:37.52 | jnwhiteh | in the XMl autoInvite:updateButton_OnClick(); -> autoInvite:updateButton_OnClick(nil, self); |
| 15:38.23 | ievil | status is used tho |
| 15:38.33 | jnwhiteh | yes I realize this |
| 15:38.37 | jnwhiteh | thats why I didn't remove it. |
| 15:38.51 | ievil | wouldnt that fail status==raid when passed as nil? |
| 15:39.02 | jnwhiteh | its already beign passed as nil from the XML |
| 15:39.04 | jnwhiteh | autoInvite:updateButton_OnClick(); |
| 15:39.06 | jnwhiteh | status is nil there. |
| 15:40.19 | |Jelly| | So WoWUI has /another/ virus?! |
| 15:40.34 | Lothaer | did |
| 15:40.45 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11675538960&sid=1 |
| 15:42.01 | Fisker- | |Jelly| you might as well change that to "So WoWUI has something that's not malware"? |
| 15:42.03 | Fisker- | >:E |
| 15:42.38 | ievil | tnx for the help jnwhiteh, gave me another error. but gonna check that when I get home ;) |
| 15:42.44 | Fisker- | awesome thread |Jelly| |
| 15:42.50 | Fisker- | lets get those scrubs off the program |
| 15:42.54 | *** join/#wowuidev Shirik (n=nospam@conspiracy/developer/Shirik) |
| 15:42.54 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 15:43.44 | Shirik | rawur |
| 15:43.58 | Shirik | ~rawr |
| 15:43.58 | purl | from memory, rawr is a demigod to everyone who isnt a jew, or program for comparing and exploring gear for Bears, Cats, Moonkin, Warlocks, Mages, Retadins, ProtWarriors, and Healadins (http://www.codeplex.com/Rawr) |
| 15:44.00 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr |
| 15:44.01 | |Jelly| | Morning Shirik |
| 15:44.04 | Shirik | o.o |
| 15:44.07 | Fisker- | Arawr |
| 15:44.10 | Fisker- | >:E |
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| 15:46.28 | Lothaer | o for peet sake the issue has been delt with the infected file has been removed. |
| 15:46.55 | Lopeppeppy | We'll still hear about it for at least a week more, as people clean their systems and come back to complain and warn others. |
| 15:47.42 | Lothaer | Xinhuan u there mate? |
| 15:47.48 | Xinhuan | yeah |
| 15:47.55 | Lothaer | question for ya |
| 15:48.36 | Lothaer | ignoring this time how many other times has wowui had a issue? by my count its one |
| 15:48.52 | Xinhuan | what kind of issue are you talking about? |
| 15:49.01 | Lothaer | virus |
| 15:49.10 | Lothaer | major issue |
| 15:49.17 | Xinhuan | there were 2 previous cases of viruses on wowui |
| 15:49.23 | *** join/#wowuidev CrazyMYKL (n=rumors@149.152.112.26) |
| 15:49.32 | Xinhuan | and another major one on mirroring the entire wowace |
| 15:49.58 | Xinhuan | lol cogwheel |
| 15:50.00 | jnwhiteh | and that's if we collapse these three trojans into one incident |
| 15:50.09 | Lothaer | im asking because of the latest post on the virus thread, i think people are over reacting to the number of problems |
| 15:50.30 | Lopeppeppy | People always over-react, Lothaer. That's a given. PR is part of the whole package. |
| 15:50.35 | Xinhuan | Lothaer: in the past 2 cases (one just 6 months ago?) (and the other last november) |
| 15:50.41 | Xinhuan | posts were deleted, no announcements were made on front page |
| 15:50.44 | TecnoBrat | Ackis, don't be suprised if Miyari hugs you randomly |
| 15:50.48 | Xinhuan | it was as though it never happened |
| 15:51.06 | Lothaer | ok comparing this time to the last issues, would you say that it was handled better and quicker? |
| 15:51.09 | jnwhiteh | I think they object to the big green "This file is clean!", combined with the multiple incidents in a short period of time, and the censorship and admin hardhandedness that has plagued the site for a while. |
| 15:51.19 | jnwhiteh | It was handled better than last time |
| 15:51.26 | Lothaer | im not after any snide remarks just feed back please |
| 15:51.27 | Xinhuan | it was handled quicker, and slightly more transparent |
| 15:51.32 | jnwhiteh | but damnit you need to learn from yoru lessons |
| 15:51.35 | jnwhiteh | I am giving you feedback |
| 15:51.44 | jnwhiteh | I haven't said a single snide thing.. |
| 15:51.44 | Xinhuan | there were less posts deleted |
| 15:51.54 | |Jelly| | Those snide remarks /are/ feedback. Just not what you're wanting to hear. |
| 15:51.54 | Lothaer | i know |
| 15:52.00 | Lothaer | i just threw that out there |
| 15:52.01 | Xinhuan | however, a member was banned for posting "digg this", i'm not sure if that was warranted |
| 15:52.09 | Antiarc | http://www.wowace.com/projects/fontain/ <-- go, use, give feedback |
| 15:52.19 | Xinhuan | given that every thread on the forums have a digg this link |
| 15:52.30 | jnwhiteh | Also, just because you remove LINKS on the site to the trojan, leaving the file up is just a terrible idea |
| 15:53.02 | Lopeppeppy | Antiarc, I sent myself a note at home to take look at that. Thanks. |
| 15:53.16 | Lothaer | wasnt my idea, that was rushters |
| 15:53.25 | |Jelly| | ooo. A font addon! Yesplix |
| 15:53.26 | jnwhiteh | well it was a bad one, and I hope you guys learn from it |
| 15:53.32 | Xinhuan | keep in mind also Lothaer, i was once an admin on worldofwar.net, there was nearly 0 approval processes or steps mods have to take of any sort |
| 15:53.33 | jnwhiteh | if we can psot links to it, so can the bad guys |
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| 15:55.00 | cogwheel | I made a suggestion in a thread that was deleted... Perhaps you should give your moderators the ability to quarantine a file until admins are able to do something about it? |
| 15:55.18 | jnwhiteh | I honestly appreciate that in general this wasn't nearly as bad as the last time.. where Rushter and Elly were being outright hostile towards their user community. That shows immense improvement. |
| 15:55.45 | nevcairiel | they said nothing at all this time? =p |
| 15:55.49 | cogwheel | part of the problem yesterday was that no one was around to do anything about it at first |
| 15:56.02 | cogwheel | s/to do/who could do/ |
| 15:56.05 | jnwhiteh | No, they responded on the thread, but they weren't calling people liars and posting attacks. |
| 15:56.14 | Shirik | cogwheel, how dare you have a good idea!@ |
| 15:56.17 | jnwhiteh | that was a big problem the first time around |
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| 15:57.14 | krka | can anyone with linux or cygwin run "find > output.txt" on their wow dir and send me? |
| 15:57.27 | krka | you can of course exclude addon / config dirs |
| 15:57.51 | Shirik | sure |
| 15:58.18 | krka | i copied my installation from work -> home with filezilla, but something failed and it didnt preserve directories |
| 15:58.35 | Shirik | how do you want me to get this to you? |
| 15:58.37 | Antiarc | You just need the data directory and the top level files |
| 15:58.50 | krka | mail would be fine, or if you have some public http |
| 15:58.55 | krka | kristofer.karlsson@gmail.com |
| 15:59.07 | Shirik | why can't I just pastey it >.> |
| 15:59.19 | krka | shirik that works too |
| 15:59.29 | krka | just thought it'd be a huge list |
| 15:59.32 | krka | but perhaps it isn't |
| 15:59.52 | cogwheel | krka: here's my Data folder http://pastey.net/99234 |
| 15:59.56 | cogwheel | everything else should be in the root |
| 16:00.01 | krka | you know, blizzard really did a good job design file layout, most games break if anything is misplaced |
| 16:00.14 | krka | thanks! |
| 16:00.24 | Shirik | lol, find got pissed |
| 16:00.31 | Shirik | it doesn't like junctions apparently |
| 16:01.02 | krka | I presume Documentation can be wiped? |
| 16:01.14 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/99235-1dlc |
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| 16:02.48 | cogwheel | krka: probably |
| 16:08.55 | krka | since i am not quite sure what to search for: is there an addon that tracks all npc's you've interacted with and creates a searchable database, so that i can for instance do: /search repair or /search taxi to find the nearest match? |
| 16:09.09 | krka | i am thinking of making one, but not if it has already been done |
| 16:09.13 | cogwheel | krka: why not use tracking? |
| 16:09.17 | Lopeppeppy | Why not just track them? |
| 16:09.25 | krka | the built in? |
| 16:09.30 | cogwheel | aye |
| 16:09.44 | krka | 1) that one only works in a fairly short range |
| 16:09.55 | krka | 2) i want to be able to search by quests / names / et.c. |
| 16:10.12 | Shirik | krka: That addon already exists in the built-in UI |
| 16:10.16 | nevcairiel | ZorbaTHut: i have a issue with QH, i clicked my worldmap button to disable it, and all is fine etc, but after zoning, the TomTom waypoint comes back =P |
| 16:10.18 | Shirik | it's called "guards" |
| 16:10.24 | Shirik | you talk to them and then they tell you where to go |
| 16:10.26 | Shirik | really cool feature |
| 16:10.28 | cogwheel | guards won't tell you everything |
| 16:10.33 | cogwheel | and they're not everywhere |
| 16:10.37 | Shirik | shhh |
| 16:10.45 | nevcairiel | especially in some remote location thats not your capital city :P |
| 16:10.46 | krka | "find me the person who's name is XY something" |
| 16:11.05 | Shirik | thing is, LH could probably answer that question |
| 16:11.07 | Shirik | it just doesn't |
| 16:11.12 | cogwheel | krka: i don't know of anything that does that so specifically, but there are plenty of map mods that'll keep track of things like that |
| 16:11.15 | krka | "find me the vendor that sells you jagged arrows" |
| 16:11.17 | Shirik | it has the info for the NPCs in it |
| 16:11.29 | nevcairiel | not all npcs, either |
| 16:11.29 | Shirik | krka: Now you're approaching kitchen sink :) |
| 16:11.30 | krka | cogwheel: cool, could you point me in the right direction? |
| 16:11.44 | cogwheel | cartographer with some particular component i don't remember ... |
| 16:11.50 | cogwheel | probably others |
| 16:11.54 | nevcairiel | _Vendors probably |
| 16:11.58 | krka | shirik: not really, it would just be a database of keywords -> units |
| 16:12.07 | krka | where each unit is basically just a location |
| 16:12.10 | Shirik | but you keep changing what qualifies as a keyword |
| 16:12.11 | ZorbaTHut | nev, yeah, I've heard about that. I gotta sit down and figure it out |
| 16:12.19 | ZorbaTHut | I don't use tomtom and I don't disable it so I keep forgetting about it :P |
| 16:12.32 | Shirik | first you started with "Repair functionality" then you went to "Name" and now you're moving to "Things that I can buy from X" |
| 16:12.36 | krka | shirik, no it's just that the data miner should be able to collect many types of information |
| 16:12.56 | nevcairiel | I only use it right now to do the low lvl quests for the achievements, but when i'm not out doing achievements, i dont want the stuff up :P |
| 16:12.59 | krka | the thing is, i started building that addon in early TBC, but i stopped |
| 16:13.14 | cogwheel | krka: resume, imo :P |
| 16:13.17 | Shirik | I just think the list is (virtually) endless |
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| 16:13.22 | krka | i want to know if i should keep working on it or just download whatever is working now |
| 16:13.46 | Shirik | I agree with keep working on it |
| 16:13.47 | nevcairiel | I dont know of any standalone mod that does it |
| 16:13.56 | krka | i connected it with autotravel to show the best walkable path too |
| 16:14.00 | krka | but that was mostly a bonus feature |
| 16:14.51 | krka | i'll take a look at lightheaded anyway, see if there's anything i can hook into |
| 16:15.12 | Shirik | oh shit |
| 16:15.15 | Shirik | tomorrow's mol day |
| 16:16.38 | krka | crap, not sure i can find my old code now :) |
| 16:16.42 | Lopeppeppy | mol day? |
| 16:16.53 | cogwheel | i like pi day better |
| 16:17.00 | Lopeppeppy | Ice cream day for me. |
| 16:17.03 | |Jelly| | L2Nerd, Peppy:: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mole_Day |
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| 16:17.38 | krka | ah, found it! |
| 16:18.07 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy: 6.02 x 10^23 |
| 16:18.08 | Lopeppeppy | Hey Cogwheel! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi_Day |
| 16:18.08 | cogwheel | i memorize 7 new digits of pi each year ... so far i'm up to 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197 |
| 16:18.17 | cladhaire | Mend Pet |
| 16:18.19 | cladhaire | woot! |
| 16:18.21 | Lopeppeppy | And thank you, Jelly. I am deficient in my hard-science Nerd score. |
| 16:18.29 | Shirik | are you sure you didn't miss a 5 cogwheel? |
| 16:18.39 | cogwheel | yes |
| 16:18.58 | Shirik | you're right, sorry |
| 16:19.03 | Shirik | I guess I'm off by one |
| 16:19.06 | Lothaer | Clad: thankyou |
| 16:19.26 | cogwheel | Shirik: rounding error? ;) |
| 16:19.37 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy: You should only need to know that if you're a chemist :) |
| 16:19.47 | Shirik | I happen to know it due to having some chemistry background |
| 16:20.00 | krka | cogwheel: does that imply that you're only 5 years old now? |
| 16:20.01 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik -- if it interests you, and Jelly knows about it, it's worth me being aware of. |
| 16:20.02 | cladhaire | Lothaer: hrm? |
| 16:20.09 | Lopeppeppy | If you'd spelled it correctly, I could have looked it up myself! |
| 16:20.16 | Shirik | mol is correct! |
| 16:20.31 | cogwheel | krka: if it did, that would mean I could start recognizing and memorizing numbers from the tender age of 0 |
| 16:20.44 | cogwheel | so I'm probably at least 7 or 8 |
| 16:20.44 | Shirik | Chemistry |
| 16:20.44 | Shirik | * mol, the symbol (always lowercase) for mole, the SI unit for an amount of substance |
| 16:20.44 | krka | ah true |
| 16:20.46 | cladhaire | LIFE BEGINS AT 1 |
| 16:20.47 | Lopeppeppy | The wiki says mole. Peppy are confused. |
| 16:20.53 | cladhaire | stop trying to 0-base human life! |
| 16:20.56 | krka | i'm guessing 8, you seem fairly mature |
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| 16:21.16 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, omfg, you're telling me you f'ing abbreviate a 4 letter word to 3 LETTERS? *face palm* |
| 16:21.27 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy, it could be worse |
| 16:21.36 | Shirik | try working with GM and some of their awesome abbreviations |
| 16:21.37 | krka | tht is jst silly |
| 16:21.37 | Lothaer | your last post at http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18813 |
| 16:21.42 | Shirik | BETTER YET |
| 16:21.43 | Lothaer | :D |
| 16:21.44 | Shirik | try working on unix |
| 16:21.49 | cladhaire | ah okay |
| 16:22.47 | cogwheel | actually, i only started the pi day tradition two Pi Days ago... I had brute forced up to ...8626433 previously, but the nagging 8 kept me wanting to round up to 4 :P |
| 16:23.02 | cogwheel | nagging 8 after the end* |
| 16:25.15 | Lopeppeppy | cogwheel, you're still weird |
| 16:25.35 | cogwheel | awww thanks! you're so sweet! <3 |
| 16:25.56 | Gnarfoz | I love it when wow does this: :X [2] err=0 text=SFileReadFile - creature\ridingelekk\ridingelekk00.skin - Data\common.MPQ [1] err=0 text=ReadSectors/DecompressData failed [0] err=0 text=ReadSectors/DecompressData failed |
| 16:25.56 | cogwheel | ~dinosnack |
| 16:26.04 | Lopeppeppy | I know, I give the best compliments, don't I? |
| 16:28.49 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 16:28.54 | Xinhuan | start firing up your repair.exe |
| 16:29.00 | Xinhuan | and check for harddisk failures |
| 16:29.07 | Lothaer | ???? |
| 16:30.14 | Xinhuan | cogwheel, can you possibly update your macro thread about adding () to the end of mount names |
| 16:30.16 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: nope, it's wow's fault. happens after several cycles of STR... rebooting normally once fixes it reliably. :X |
| 16:30.34 | Xinhuan | in macros that is |
| 16:30.36 | Gnarfoz | (yes, tried a different hdd already) |
| 16:30.50 | Gnarfoz | thus... reboot |
| 16:30.52 | Xinhuan | /cast mountname(); mountname() |
| 16:30.53 | Xinhuan | etc |
| 16:31.10 | Xinhuan | the () tells wow you want the spell, rather than the item token in your bags/bank |
| 16:31.11 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: mine works fine without those |
| 16:31.21 | Xinhuan | yes that's cos you don't have the mount tokens |
| 16:31.24 | cogwheel | Xinhuan: you mean like the section titled "Notes about spell names and ranks"? ;) |
| 16:31.25 | Shirik | Xinhuan: What's "three ways to sunday"? |
| 16:31.25 | Gnarfoz | you don't have the spell if you have the item oO |
| 16:31.26 | Xinhuan | some people kept them |
| 16:31.32 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 16:31.34 | Shirik | nm you didn't write that |
| 16:31.38 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: throw them away |
| 16:31.38 | Shirik | just someone with your avatar did |
| 16:31.42 | Xinhuan | yes, but this applies ot mounts now |
| 16:31.47 | Gnarfoz | anyway, reboob |
| 16:31.48 | cogwheel | Xinhuan: mounts are spells |
| 16:31.53 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 16:31.58 | Xinhuan | hence the suggestion! |
| 16:32.00 | cogwheel | so it applies correctly |
| 16:32.11 | Xinhuan | too many people having mount macro issues right now |
| 16:32.16 | Xinhuan | due to the lack of () |
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| 16:32.22 | nevcairiel | its a rather mood point to add that to a guide, if it only applys to 0.1% of people that got lagged and kept their mount item :P |
| 16:32.23 | cogwheel | i think most of them are cache issues |
| 16:32.35 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel: blizzard mass mailed everyone on all servers |
| 16:32.41 | cogwheel | where the game isn't telling the difference between teh item and the spell |
| 16:32.43 | Xinhuan | my own mailbox has 41 mounts and pets in it |
| 16:32.58 | Xinhuan | they reimbursed everyone everything |
| 16:33.00 | nevcairiel | most people just need to change their macros to be "Mount Name" rather then "Reigns of Mount Name" |
| 16:33.07 | cogwheel | but the thing is, there are already a couple threads about mounts in specific, and the information is already in the sticky ready to be linked |
| 16:33.10 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: not here :P |
| 16:33.15 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 16:33.20 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 16:33.24 | cogwheel | Xinhuan: for instance with Forum ToC Poster ;) |
| 16:33.33 | Xinhuan | that poster is win |
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| 16:34.24 | UltraNurd | UI element question |
| 16:34.29 | UltraNurd | I'm dynamically populating a dropdown |
| 16:34.30 | Lopeppeppy | Has it been updated recently, cogwheel? Should I go get it? And re-add Peppy's guide to it? |
| 16:34.37 | UltraNurd | and I'm worried it will get too big on smaller resolutions |
| 16:34.39 | cladhaire | turning 12g into 125g is fun |
| 16:34.57 | UltraNurd | (a) how do I do scrolling or (b) is there some other element I should use for multiple selections? |
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| 16:36.27 | Syzgyn | Dropdowns are bad for more than 4 or 5 options |
| 16:36.33 | Shirik | Antiarc: ping |
| 16:37.15 | Antiarc | pong |
| 16:37.34 | UltraNurd | has someone implemented a pong mod? <.< |
| 16:37.36 | mikma | anyone has any idea will druids get some kind of +speed trinket for flightform? |
| 16:38.01 | Shirik | Antiarc: did you get the file? |
| 16:38.03 | Shirik | Can I delete it? |
| 16:38.05 | UltraNurd | mikma: yeah, making the trinkets expire at 71 is lame. but I haven't heard anything. |
| 16:38.07 | Antiarc | yup, htanks |
| 16:38.10 | Syzgyn | mikma: Considering riding crops are being phased out, I doubt it |
| 16:38.15 | Shirik | did it work ok? |
| 16:38.26 | cogwheel | Lopeppeppy: The program itself is now separated from any ToC files. You can upload your own tocs and they'll show up in the list accompanying the poster :) |
| 16:38.30 | mikma | the current situation sucks donkeycock with druids :O |
| 16:38.37 | Antiarc | I haven't had time to unpack it yet |
| 16:38.40 | mikma | riding crop won't work and the trinket only reduces manacost of flightform |
| 16:38.48 | cogwheel | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7496-ForumToCPoster.html#optional |
| 16:38.53 | cogwheel | (under optional files) |
| 16:39.49 | Lopeppeppy | Thank you, Cogwheel. I'll be sure to update and add the Peppylist. |
| 16:40.27 | nevcairiel | thats how you guys ninja-comment all threads and get green names |
| 16:40.29 | nevcairiel | you cheat! |
| 16:40.42 | Lopeppeppy | Download it yourself. |
| 16:40.53 | Lopeppeppy | But you'll still have green-envy. :P |
| 16:40.54 | nevcairiel | I dont have a US account anyway :( |
| 16:41.09 | Shirik | It's ok nevcairiel |
| 16:41.11 | nevcairiel | and EU isnt even worth to get a green name |
| 16:41.17 | Shirik | It doesn't put u's in randomly so you can't use it |
| 16:41.19 | Gnarfoz | blizz doesn't care about eu, etc etc |
| 16:41.28 | Shirik | It uses correct spelling |
| 16:41.49 | nevcairiel | Shirik: i dont care for the UK spelling, i r lazy, so less u's is good |
| 16:42.02 | Shirik | good good |
| 16:49.06 | Shirik | I <3 Satrina |
| 16:49.11 | Shirik | 'If you use ButtonFacade, make sure you are running version 3.0r170 ( here: ButtonFacade ) or you will have performance problems with SBF and kittens will die. Think of the kittens.' |
| 16:49.26 | Shirik | "kittens" and "die" are both double size, bold, and different color |
| 16:49.45 | Syzgyn | lol |
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| 16:49.56 | cogwheel | <3 kamdis |
| 16:50.03 | kamdis | <3 cogwheel |
| 16:50.04 | kamdis | hehe |
| 16:50.45 | kamdis | Actually, cog, I'm not sure programmers could be considered as lazy, since they actually take the time to create something to solve the problem instead of relying on others to do it. |
| 16:50.46 | Lopeppeppy | <3 everyone! |
| 16:50.56 | cogwheel | kamdis: actually that's what makes them lazy :P |
| 16:50.58 | kamdis | ~hug Lopeppeppy |
| 16:50.58 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Lopeppeppy |
| 16:51.04 | UltraNurd | kamdis: we do take shortcuts sometimes... |
| 16:51.29 | cogwheel | http://www.hhhh.org/wiml/virtues.html |
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| 16:52.35 | cogwheel | i guess this is a better link http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?LazinessImpatienceHubris |
| 16:57.12 | kamdis | nice |
| 16:57.31 | Lopeppeppy | Reminds me of so many of my friends. |
| 16:58.03 | Josh_Borke | reminds me of me |
| 16:59.51 | Lopeppeppy | I do not resembles that remark! |
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| 17:01.04 | Codex| | hubert the hubris |
| 17:01.49 | UltraNurd | Can't go wrong with a Larry Wall quote |
| 17:02.42 | UltraNurd | I'm personally a fan of: |
| 17:02.45 | UltraNurd | "Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it." |
| 17:02.46 | UltraNurd | --Brian W. Kernighan |
| 17:03.39 | Lopeppeppy | ...station |
| 17:03.51 | ScytheBlade1 | ~Lopeppeppy++ |
| 17:04.08 | Lopeppeppy | Purl doesn't know how to do that for me, ScytheBlade1, but thanks for the recommendation. :) |
| 17:04.21 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 17:04.54 | cogwheel | ~karma Lopeppeppy |
| 17:04.54 | purl | lopeppeppy has karma of 2 |
| 17:05.02 | cogwheel | ~Lopeppeppy++ |
| 17:05.04 | cogwheel | ~karma Lopeppeppy |
| 17:05.04 | purl | lopeppeppy has karma of 3 |
| 17:05.13 | cogwheel | ~karma Cogwheel |
| 17:05.13 | purl | cogwheel has karma of 4 |
| 17:05.13 | Josh_Borke | purl, what is my karma? |
| 17:05.15 | purl | I think you lost me on that one, Josh_Borke |
| 17:05.16 | kamdis | hehe, purl can't add |
| 17:05.18 | Josh_Borke | ~karma Josh_Borke |
| 17:05.18 | purl | josh_borke has karma of 2 |
| 17:05.22 | Josh_Borke | ~karma JoshBorke |
| 17:05.22 | purl | joshborke has neutral karma |
| 17:05.31 | Josh_Borke | ~cogwheel-- |
| 17:05.34 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 17:05.41 | Josh_Borke | bring you back down to peppy's level :-P |
| 17:05.42 | cogwheel | ~Josh_Borke-- |
| 17:05.47 | Josh_Borke | ~karma cairenn |
| 17:05.47 | purl | cairenn has karma of 3 |
| 17:05.52 | Lopeppeppy | Ah... that's what you guys are doing. *laugh* |
| 17:05.53 | Josh_Borke | ~cairenn++ |
| 17:06.05 | cogwheel | ~karma Josh_Borke |
| 17:06.05 | purl | josh_borke has karma of 1 |
| 17:07.17 | Codex| | is there a max amount of "favorites" addon u can have on wowi? |
| 17:08.17 | Seerah | ... not that I know of, Codex|... doesn't mean that there isn't though |
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| 17:08.27 | Seerah | but I and others have plenty |
| 17:08.51 | Codex| | thanks |
| 17:08.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Chances are if you reach said limit, you've done something drastically wrong. |
| 17:08.59 | Codex| | broker2fubar isnt on wowi? |
| 17:09.17 | Josh_Borke | doubtful |
| 17:10.15 | Xinhuan | manual route editing is coming to Routes, coming soon! |
| 17:10.33 | Codex| | xin- were you from destromath? |
| 17:10.38 | Xinhuan | Codex|: no |
| 17:10.47 | Xinhuan | however, i know voomenstein from there |
| 17:11.07 | Codex| | lawls! only time i ever ran into him, he was 60, and i was 30-something |
| 17:11.15 | Codex| | and i encountered him on a kodo in STV |
| 17:11.19 | Codex| | guess what he did to me? |
| 17:11.21 | Codex| | :( |
| 17:11.29 | Xinhuan | probably waved at you for a while, then killed you |
| 17:11.33 | Xinhuan | if i know him well enough |
| 17:11.36 | Codex| | :D |
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| 17:11.43 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shirik|Ecole] by ChanServ |
| 17:11.53 | UltraNurd | "oh, he's waving, he's not going to kill me" |
| 17:11.56 | UltraNurd | grrrrrrrk |
| 17:11.56 | Codex| | he must haveb een different 5 years ago... there was no wave |
| 17:12.09 | Codex| | lol |
| 17:12.19 | Xinhuan | he was the 9th grand marshal to join my guild ;p |
| 17:12.21 | UltraNurd | but this is why I'm a wimpy PvE-server player |
| 17:12.32 | Codex| | ./agree |
| 17:12.43 | UltraNurd | although people keep asking me where to get the Champion of the Naaru title in BGs |
| 17:12.53 | Codex| | xin- i havent taken a look at routes- what exactly is it? |
| 17:12.53 | kamdis | UltraNerd: carebears unite! :) |
| 17:13.02 | kamdis | *UltraNurd |
| 17:13.09 | UltraNurd | with a u. v. important distinction :D |
| 17:13.14 | Xinhuan | codex|: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=10369 |
| 17:13.21 | Xinhuan | then look at the screeshots |
| 17:13.23 | Codex| | thanks |
| 17:13.40 | Xinhuan | ok that post might need edits, about files.wowace.com ;p |
| 17:13.55 | Codex| | how do you get your links so fast? |
| 17:14.01 | UltraNurd | kamdis: we've done cross-faction RP on Kirin Tor a few times. I rescued a Tauren from a cult once. |
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| 17:14.46 | Codex| | xin- wheres itl ocated? not on wowi |
| 17:14.47 | UltraNurd | oh, cartographer question: since the map for Stormwind changed, the coordinates are now wrong. how do I clear the cache for just Stormwind? |
| 17:14.48 | ScytheBlade1 | So, some of the more enthauastic members of my future PvE guild has gone ahead and created it already |
| 17:14.48 | Codex| | curse? |
| 17:14.53 | Lopeppeppy | We've done parties with the horde on Argent Dawn, fun times. |
| 17:14.54 | ScytheBlade1 | <Wait Wait RETARDS WAIT> |
| 17:14.56 | kamdis | lol, I'm not an RPer at all. I transferred Kam there when I realized how badly Velen sucked, since Lunessa offered me a /ginvite. |
| 17:15.08 | Xinhuan | its on wowace/curse, i'll upload to wowi maybe tomorrow |
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| 17:15.17 | Xinhuan | Routes has been around for about.. 14 months |
| 17:15.19 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 17:16.17 | kamdis | I love Routes, Xinhuan. :-) |
| 17:16.18 | Xinhuan | think my post needs updates, since it supports tomtom for over half a year now |
| 17:16.34 | Xinhuan | kamdis, i'm upgrading the way taboo regions are being made ;p |
| 17:16.48 | Xinhuan | google maps style! |
| 17:16.48 | Lunessa | ... Wait, UltraNurd is from Kirin Tor? |
| 17:17.16 | Fisker- | i love Xinhuan |
| 17:17.26 | UltraNurd | yup. Kjallstrom, GM of Mellonea |
| 17:17.31 | kamdis | Xinhuan, hawt |
| 17:17.34 | Xinhuan | (it also means i'm not updating omen3 just yet :D) |
| 17:17.35 | Gnarfoz | ScytheBlade1: excellent name choice. sebudai for president |
| 17:17.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Gnarfoz: you got the reference. You are a winner |
| 17:17.44 | Lunessa | UltraNurd: I'm the GM of "The Round Table" |
| 17:18.04 | UltraNurd | lunessa: definitely seen the tag around. Mellonea + Unbroken are admittedly kinda insular |
| 17:18.24 | Gnarfoz | ScytheBlade1: <3 |
| 17:18.36 | Lunessa | isn't Unbroken full of Gathering Storm refugees? |
| 17:18.42 | Codex| | does bartender4 have a built in cooldowncount? |
| 17:19.11 | Lopeppeppy | Codex, not that I saw. I use OmniCC |
| 17:19.45 | UltraNurd | lunessa: you might be thinking of Unbroken... uh... some other word |
| 17:19.58 | UltraNurd | Unbroken is Daring Blades, minus Corvany, pretty much |
| 17:20.01 | Codex| | ive been using cooldowncount |
| 17:20.08 | Codex| | but, ## Interface: 20400 |
| 17:20.09 | Codex| | lol |
| 17:20.13 | Codex| | time to find something new |
| 17:20.17 | kamdis | why? |
| 17:20.22 | UltraNurd | our raiding alliance had some dramaz right after BC came out, adapting to 10-mans from 40-mans |
| 17:20.24 | kamdis | if it works, who cares? |
| 17:21.08 | Lopeppeppy | OMG drama. I finally quit my own group over the pre-LK drama |
| 17:21.13 | Lunessa | UltraNurd: AH. SO KA. |
| 17:21.16 | qz | anyone uses auctioneer addon? is missing owner on getall query a game limitation or a bug in addon? |
| 17:21.20 | Codex| | hmm thats weird, there was a newer version of it on cuirse from 5 days ago, but the curse client didnt catch it whren i ran it yesterday |
| 17:21.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: hooray? Or sadface? |
| 17:21.37 | Lopeppeppy | Meh-face, really. |
| 17:22.05 | Lopeppeppy | It was better in the end, since I only intended to step down from officership and still raid, but the admin booted me instead. I expect I'm better off without. |
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| 17:24.10 | Codex| | hey seerah |
| 17:24.12 | Codex| | you around |
| 17:24.30 | Codex| | ~seen seerah |
| 17:24.36 | purl | seerah is currently on #wowuidev (3h 2m 23s) #wowace (3h 2m 23s). Has said a total of 27 messages. Is idling for 16m 9s, last said: 'but I and others have plenty'. |
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| 17:29.59 | Codex| | you know that addon idcard that adds the items icon to the tooltip? theres used to be another that did the same thing. does anyone recall the name? |
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| 17:32.53 | Codex| | loothog vs. hootster- im still trying both of em out |
| 17:32.54 | Lunessa | And now some halloween silliness: http://mconverse.livejournal.com/ |
| 17:32.59 | Codex| | anyon have a preference? |
| 17:34.54 | Lopeppeppy | He's awesome, Lunessa! |
| 17:35.04 | Lunessa | :D |
| 17:35.08 | Lopeppeppy | I need to get myself pumpkin'd up this weekend. |
| 17:35.25 | zenzelezz | now that's an interesting way to put it... |
| 17:35.36 | Lopeppeppy | ZEN! |
| 17:35.38 | Lopeppeppy | :P |
| 17:36.35 | Lunessa | Codex|: The one I used to use, back in the day, was called "idcard" |
| 17:39.38 | kamdis | lol Lunessa, he asked for one other than that |
| 17:39.43 | NightHawkTheSane | amusing: http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/The-Receptionist-Test.aspx |
| 17:39.43 | kamdis | I think Gello had one too |
| 17:40.07 | Seerah | why other than IDCard - I thought it still worked? |
| 17:40.07 | Josh_Borke | ZOMG! LibStub has a memory leak! |
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| 17:40.53 | kamdis | LinkIcon I think is Gello's |
| 17:41.01 | kamdis | not updated either though, if it matters. |
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| 17:42.42 | Seerah | Tem said that IDCard still works |
| 17:42.46 | Seerah | it doesnt' need an update |
| 17:44.06 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: Yeah, the write-protect tab might have gotten me. You know how many years it's been since I used a floppy disk for anything? |
| 17:44.33 | Tem|afk | huhwhat? |
| 17:44.53 | Lopeppeppy | Seriously. |
| 17:44.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: well, these days, sure. but that might have happened sometime before last week, yo know? :P |
| 17:45.51 | Lunessa | Seriously. |
| 17:45.51 | Lopeppeppy | But there's been a lot of pushback against that kind of testing for IT professionals, when other professionals don't have to pass those sorts of examinations before hiring. |
| 17:46.07 | Seerah | Tem|afk: someone was looking for an alternative to IDCard - I said it still worked |
| 17:46.09 | Lunessa | I wouldn't have done the M$ sucks thing though. That's /unprofessional/. |
| 17:46.19 | Tem|afk | Seerah, can you link me? |
| 17:46.26 | Seerah | link you what? |
| 17:46.39 | Tem|afk | so the person asking |
| 17:46.49 | Seerah | it was above in irc |
| 17:47.20 | Tem|afk | oh |
| 17:47.27 | Lopeppeppy | Uh oh. Shiibot went to sleep |
| 17:48.06 | Tem|afk | Codex|, IDCard still works. Just check the Load out of Date AddOns boc |
| 17:48.07 | Tem|afk | box |
| 17:48.31 | Tem|afk | it could use an update, but it's not broken |
| 17:48.52 | Seerah | Shirik: Shiibot is sleeping on the job! |
| 17:48.56 | Codex| | yep, i know, was just wanting to use the other one in case it was updated for the new patch etc |
| 17:48.59 | Shirik | I know Seerah |
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| 17:49.02 | Shirik | He almost banned everyone |
| 17:49.05 | Codex| | using mods from 2007 can sometimes misbehave |
| 17:49.07 | Shirik | I had to make him quit before something bad happened |
| 17:49.17 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 17:49.19 | Seerah | ohhhhhh |
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| 17:49.22 | Seerah | evil robots! |
| 17:49.25 | ScytheBlade1 | This is why we don't trust the Shiibot :) |
| 17:49.27 | Tem|afk | Codex|, unless they're mine |
| 17:49.29 | Lopeppeppy | Oh. Shiibot was having a bad day. I understand, I'm glad he didn't bannerize me. |
| 17:49.30 | Codex| | :) |
| 17:49.33 | Tem|afk | my addons tend to never break |
| 17:49.36 | Tem|afk | like ever |
| 17:49.47 | Tem|afk | Who Note hasn't needed an update in 2 years |
| 17:49.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow, there's quite the ban list here |
| 17:49.49 | UltraNurd | Tem: hubris? |
| 17:50.10 | Tem|afk | UltraNurd, a little |
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| 17:50.14 | Tem|afk | but mostly it's the kind of addons I write |
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| 17:50.16 | Codex| | tem, what have you written besides who note? |
| 17:50.17 | UltraNurd | although the last mod I had only required TOC updates 2.1 through 3.0, but it was very simple |
| 17:50.23 | Tem|afk | they tend to be ultra simple |
| 17:50.23 | Seerah | shhh!!! Cairenn's back! |
| 17:50.36 | Tem|afk | Codex|, IDCard |
| 17:50.39 | Tem|afk | TradeTabs |
| 17:50.55 | Seerah | Tem == tardmrr |
| 17:51.04 | Tem|afk | TradeTabs only needed an update because they added a tradeskill on me |
| 17:51.18 | Tem|afk | also, UltraNurd: |
| 17:51.23 | Tem|afk | ~hubris |
| 17:51.24 | purl | HUBRIS: Excessive pride, the sort of thing Zeus zaps you for. Also the quality that makes you write (and maintain) programs that other people won't want to say bad things about. Hence, the third great virtue of a programmer. |
| 17:51.30 | Tem|afk | ~laziness |
| 17:51.31 | purl | LAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer. |
| 17:51.32 | Tem|afk | ~impatience |
| 17:51.33 | purl | IMPATIENCE: The anger you feel when the computer is being lazy. This makes you write programs that don't just react to your needs, but actually anticipate them. Or at least that pretend to. Hence, the second great virtue of a programmer. |
| 17:51.36 | Tem|afk | ~fear of complexity |
| 17:51.37 | purl | FEAR OF COMPLEXITY: That which causes you to implement as little as possible, as simplicity is easier to fix. As well, that which prevents feature creep due to the environmental damage it causes. Hence, the fourth great virtue of a programmer. |
| 17:51.37 | UltraNurd | hah. well done. |
| 17:52.09 | Lopeppeppy | <3 Tem |
| 17:52.14 | kamdis | Shiibot hasn't plopped me in his channel in quite a few logins, I'm pleased. :) |
| 17:52.43 | Shirik | That's because the attacks have stopped |
| 17:52.50 | Lopeppeppy | Thank the gods for small favors |
| 17:53.01 | Shirik | They started attacking #norganna instead, so I wrote a new module |
| 17:53.06 | Shirik | that new module almost banned just about everyone :) |
| 17:53.12 | Shirik | fixed now though |
| 17:53.15 | Tem|afk | lol |
| 17:53.18 | Lunessa | Tem is working on divine ascendence, but WoW AddOns keep him from quite getting there... |
| 17:53.30 | Codex| | what is everyone using instead of supermacro nowadays? |
| 17:53.36 | Josh_Borke | tem and divine ascendence? o.O |
| 17:53.41 | Lopeppeppy | What did supermacro do, Codex|? |
| 17:53.49 | Tem|afk | Bigger macros, yes? |
| 17:53.59 | Tem|afk | Lunessa, highly doubtful |
| 17:54.13 | Codex| | yes tem |
| 17:54.16 | Codex| | bigger |
| 17:54.22 | Tem|afk | no idea |
| 17:54.38 | Tem|afk | I always took the "your macro is too big" as a sign that I needed to be more clever in how I wrote my macro |
| 17:54.39 | kamdis | Codex| Macaroon is the new hot thing in macros. it works a bit differently than Supermacro though. |
| 17:54.50 | Codex| | hmm lemme check that out |
| 17:54.56 | Lopeppeppy | kamdis, I thought Macaroon was an action bar? |
| 17:55.10 | Codex| | eek |
| 17:55.21 | cogwheel | it is but it has built-in support for long macros |
| 17:55.21 | Codex| | macro action bar :/ |
| 17:55.39 | cogwheel | Codex|: there's no way to have a long macro on a normal bar |
| 17:55.47 | cogwheel | without using a normal macro as an intermediary |
| 17:55.50 | kamdis | Macaroon also works in tandem with other action bar mods |
| 17:56.19 | cogwheel | so in order to trigger a long macro, your actual macro would likely be a simple /click of on an addon's button |
| 17:56.51 | Codex| | cool |
| 17:56.55 | Codex| | ill give it a shot |
| 18:00.15 | Codex| | zomgbox has been deleted from wowi, wowace, and curse :/ |
| 18:01.21 | Lopeppeppy | what is a zomgbox? |
| 18:02.11 | Codex| | its a little gray box used in interface |
| 18:02.19 | Codex| | i have it at the bottom quarter of my screen |
| 18:02.33 | Codex| | i have my chat and action bars within it |
| 18:02.33 | Syzgyn | eePanels? |
| 18:02.35 | Lopeppeppy | Like... an eepanel or SunnArt panel? |
| 18:02.37 | Codex| | nothing more tha na box |
| 18:02.38 | Codex| | yea |
| 18:02.48 | Codex| | havent tried sunnart |
| 18:03.03 | Lopeppeppy | SunnArt is easier than eepanels, IMO |
| 18:03.14 | Codex| | zomgbox is the easiest, just give it a size |
| 18:03.20 | Codex| | so the wowi updater downloads the mod, THEN asks for confirmation? |
| 18:03.31 | kd3 | confirmation to install |
| 18:03.31 | Syzgyn | Making a square texture is like, 5 lines of code |
| 18:03.41 | Codex| | thanks kd3 |
| 18:03.47 | Codex| | is there a way to install all at once |
| 18:03.52 | Codex| | and ignore the ones that require more info? |
| 18:04.18 | kd3 | the ones that require more info just need the addon's ID number on wowi. give the updater that and it'll be happy |
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| 18:06.39 | Codex| | it doesnt like working batch jobs much- backing up the interface after each one |
| 18:07.40 | linear` | if i have a secure frame anchored to a regular frame and i try to hide the regular frame will it cause taint |
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| 18:10.40 | Lunessa | the secure frame is a child of the regular frame? |
| 18:11.07 | Lunessa | If so, it's already tainted. |
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| 18:13.17 | linear` | no its not |
| 18:13.24 | linear` | theyre seperate |
| 18:13.30 | linear` | they share the same parent |
| 18:14.18 | Lunessa | Then you should be able to call Hide() on your non-secure frame without tainting the secure frame. Taint basically means an item was called from non-blizzard code. |
| 18:14.51 | Lunessa | Or I more accurately, changed by non-blizzard code. |
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| 18:16.41 | linear` | ok well i just anchored it relative to the parent instead of the regular frame and it seems to ahve gone away |
| 18:16.47 | linear` | which makes no sense but w/e |
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| 18:17.20 | nevcairiel | cladhaire: got a bug in TomTom, the coordinate block flickers while being in an instance (no data avail) |
| 18:17.53 | Codex| | nev: cartographer coordinates is doing the same thing |
| 18:18.01 | Codex| | the arrow is a bunch of little white textures |
| 18:18.12 | nevcairiel | thats not the same thing |
| 18:18.42 | Codex| | close enough for me :P |
| 18:18.50 | kamdis | cladhaire: nev's comment reminded me, despite being set to "lcokd" my coordinate block jumps to the default location (though it keeps my non-default font/size/etc.) when I log in or zone. |
| 18:18.56 | kamdis | *"locked" |
| 18:19.33 | nevcairiel | cladhaire: it stops doing that when i open the map, so i guess some stray world_map_update fires from soem addon trying to query the coordinates .. might be related to QH that i intsalled just last week :P |
| 18:20.25 | Codex| | the wowinterface updater told me its using -1125 threads out of an available 5 |
| 18:22.03 | UltraNurd | I still miss WAU. very usable, at least the OS X version. I have high hopes for the Curse one, seeing as how it's still just in beta... but I'm kinda allergic to wxWidgets |
| 18:23.24 | Codex| | i was totally in love with wau |
| 18:23.28 | Codex| | it was my mistress |
| 18:23.40 | UltraNurd | Codex|: that's a little creepy :D |
| 18:23.42 | Codex| | i guess ill just flashget my wowinterface favorites page |
| 18:23.48 | Lopeppeppy | But likely accurate. o.O |
| 18:24.14 | Codex| | :) |
| 18:27.50 | Lunessa | Creepy object-love is creepy. |
| 18:28.07 | ScytheBlade1 | It's not even a physical object |
| 18:28.09 | Lopeppeppy | No denying that, cat. |
| 18:28.16 | UltraNurd | tautological creepy object-love is creepier |
| 18:28.18 | ScytheBlade1 | You can only give the former WAU so much love before circuits start to short out |
| 18:28.31 | ScytheBlade1 | As does... other things... |
| 18:29.09 | UltraNurd | WordNet considers software to be an abstract entity, if you follow its hypernym chain |
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| 18:31.06 | Codex| | i would upgrade to premium wowi for the wau |
| 18:31.08 | Codex| | :P |
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| 18:31.33 | UltraNurd | my understanding was that developers in good standing will get premium curse? |
| 18:32.06 | ScytheBlade1 | iirc, something like that ys |
| 18:32.07 | ScytheBlade1 | *yes |
| 18:32.55 | UltraNurd | well, so far, working on WoW addons has given me directly work-relevant skills with regards to git |
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| 18:40.47 | Codex| | any of you guys use combuctor? |
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| 18:42.58 | Josh_Borke | Codex|: yes |
| 18:43.20 | Codex| | have you tried using scrap with it? |
| 18:43.23 | Codex| | and combuctor scrap? |
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| 18:45.30 | Codex| | the latest combuctor wont hide my keys |
| 18:45.30 | Codex| | :/ |
| 18:45.39 | Shirik | I'll combuct your keys |
| 18:45.47 | Codex| | and /cbt isnt doing anything |
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| 18:48.12 | Codex| | ahh damn they made combuctor options a separate addon now |
| 18:48.14 | Codex| | sheesh |
| 18:48.37 | Lunessa | Shirik: Combuct your keys sounds naughty. |
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| 18:58.05 | Codex| | josh: do you use combuctor scrap and scrap? |
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| 19:04.24 | Codex| | gogomount keeps telling me to report an unknown mount but it doesnt tell me which mount i need to report :/ |
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| 19:08.14 | Codex| | anyone fix vipers player link menu? |
| 19:11.44 | Dewin | oh wow, http://tinyurl.com/69kcka gorilladin tanked Gruul's |
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| 19:12.44 | Lopeppeppy | Not found. |
| 19:12.53 | Dewin | tinyurl, you fail. |
| 19:12.53 | Dewin | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11296679504&sid=1 |
| 19:13.22 | kneeki | OP |
| 19:13.54 | Lopeppeppy | You know that's going to change.... |
| 19:14.06 | kneeki | I hope so |
| 19:14.27 | kneeki | I've been tanking 5 mans for the past couple weeks with my ape, but gruul? Damn. Congrats man. |
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| 19:14.56 | Dewin | I think it's mainly because wotlk content is dumbed down + hunter pets are beefed up |
| 19:15.56 | Dewin | though I saw the 74hunter+72paladin duo one of the Northrend instances video |
| 19:17.23 | Dewin | For what it's worth |
| 19:17.32 | Lopeppeppy | True, they did nerf TBC content a bit. |
| 19:17.39 | Xuerian | Voidwalkers can do the same thing, really |
| 19:17.45 | foxlit | Meh |
| 19:17.49 | Xuerian | Also being nerfed.. |
| 19:17.50 | foxlit | It's basically tank+healer+dps |
| 19:18.00 | Dewin | Eh, to tank Gruul's |
| 19:18.05 | foxlit | Add a bit of out-levelling, and there's nothing very interesting. |
| 19:18.07 | Dewin | the hunter pretty much killed his own damage |
| 19:18.18 | Dewin | 8 pieces of PVP gear with epic stamina gems in every slow to give the pet more stamina |
| 19:18.36 | Dewin | More of a case of being flexible than overpowered. |
| 19:18.51 | Codex| | anyone having problems with quartz flight timer doing anything at all? |
| 19:19.09 | Xuerian | Codex|: Mine hasn't worked for the last year |
| 19:19.14 | Xuerian | I just gave up -_- |
| 19:19.30 | Dewin | I use the bejeweled flight timer personally |
| 19:19.40 | Dewin | But I... somehow screwed up the high scores |
| 19:19.45 | Codex| | LOL |
| 19:19.53 | ScytheBlade1 | kamdis: install Bejeweled |
| 19:20.01 | Dewin | I was copying my WTF folders from my main to my alts to copy the layout |
| 19:20.07 | Dewin | This, apparently, copied my main's Bejeweled scores. |
| 19:20.17 | Dewin | and the Bejeweled high score algorithm does not handle ties well. |
| 19:20.22 | Lopeppeppy | oops |
| 19:20.24 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:20.28 | Codex| | i guess ill try InfLIGHT |
| 19:20.32 | Dewin | So the entire tamed game store is: Ryndel 484.53 Rynelas 484.53 Ryndel 484.53 Rynelas 484.53 Ryndel 484.53 Rynelas 484.53 Ryndel 484.53 Rynelas 484.53 |
| 19:20.34 | Codex| | oops i fail at capslock |
| 19:20.43 | Dewin | s/store/score list/ |
| 19:20.58 | Dewin | I wonder if there's a way to fix that |
| 19:21.05 | Codex| | how does Ainur sound for a human mage? |
| 19:21.10 | Codex| | for a name |
| 19:21.28 | duaiwe | Dewin: nuke your SVs? :P |
| 19:21.29 | Lopeppeppy | Anus? Hmm? |
| 19:21.39 | Dewin | duaiwe: That'd wipe my legit scores too |
| 19:21.52 | Lopeppeppy | Your name does not pass the "6th Grader With An Attitude" test, Codex|. |
| 19:21.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Dewin: well you asked to fix it, not fix it in a non-apocalyptic manner. :) |
| 19:22.09 | Dewin | That's like fixing a car by dropping a bomb on it. |
| 19:22.23 | NightHawkTheSane | not at all, that wouldn't make the car work again. |
| 19:22.32 | NightHawkTheSane | nuking your SVs WOULD make bejewelled work again. :) |
| 19:22.33 | Dewin | Sure it'll work again |
| 19:22.48 | Dewin | at some point in the distant future, people would mine up the remnants of the car, smelt it, and build a new car |
| 19:23.00 | Dewin | I only noticed because now a third person in the guild is finally playing it |
| 19:23.09 | Dewin | so I challenged them to beat my scores, and then I saw how bad the score table was |
| 19:23.17 | NightHawkTheSane | only three? :P |
| 19:23.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: I thought my name passed that test. Then someone googled it. Turns out it passes the 6th grader test, but not the medical student test. (Sbo, that is. If you can't tell I was 12 when I came up with ScytheBlade1 then you're a bit slow.) |
| 19:24.22 | mikma | codex|: name him kives |
| 19:24.31 | Dewin | Night: It's a small guild |
| 19:24.32 | mikma | haste approves |
| 19:24.40 | Dewin | and I'm only counting people I've seen actually play or on the high scores table |
| 19:24.44 | Xuerian | Kives? It sounds like he got hives, then stabbed himself |
| 19:25.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: i know i'd stab you if you got hives. *nod* ;) |
| 19:25.42 | NightHawkTheSane | i'd actually probably stab you anyway. but i've been in a stabby mood lately. |
| 19:25.43 | Xuerian | That's a little intimate, isn't it? |
| 19:25.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: (hint: look up definitions for "Sbo". *sigh*) |
| 19:27.43 | Codex| | mikma, whats a kives? |
| 19:27.52 | Codex| | Ainur is what race gandalf is of |
| 19:27.56 | Codex| | or olorin, gandalf when he was a kid |
| 19:27.57 | Codex| | :/ |
| 19:28.09 | Codex| | right now im Mightypirate, human mage |
| 19:28.10 | Codex| | lol |
| 19:29.37 | Lopeppeppy | ScytheBlade1, I did. *nod* |
| 19:29.58 | Lopeppeppy | Xuerian, most violent deaths have a touch of intimacy about them. |
| 19:30.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Some guy randomly googled that and started laughing. I asked why he was laughing, and suddenly I wanted a namechange. |
| 19:30.31 | Xuerian | specified bovine offals... |
| 19:31.02 | Lopeppeppy | Special brownie offerings! |
| 19:31.04 | Xuerian | Lopeppeppy: I'm sure you'd know this >_> |
| 19:31.09 | Xuerian | (@ violent) |
| 19:32.30 | Lopeppeppy | Peppy = rogue. I know all about bringing the kiss of death, dear. |
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| 19:36.08 | Lunessa | cogwheel: Bad dino. No vodka. |
| 19:38.08 | Lopeppeppy | What did he do? |
| 19:38.14 | Lopeppeppy | I mean, I gave him all my vodka already. |
| 19:38.55 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah, wtb a link |
| 19:39.49 | NightHawkTheSane | why does the first egg i make in a day always turn out to be this mess of a half-fried-half-scrambled-half-over-easy egg. |
| 19:40.05 | zenzelezz | 500+ fish in Ironforge and still no Ironjaw :-| |
| 19:40.14 | Lopeppeppy | Because you've forgotten how to cook, NightHawkTheSane? |
| 19:41.56 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: overnight? >< |
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| 19:43.20 | Lunessa | He left a key / command out of the macro guide. |
| 19:44.36 | Lopeppeppy | NightHawkTheSane, why not overnight? You could forget in an instant, I'd think that 6-8 hours is plenty long enough for a lot of concentrated forgettingfulness. |
| 19:45.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: ... you make a good point.. but.. uh.. forget what? >.> |
| 19:45.04 | NightHawkTheSane | ;) |
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| 19:45.45 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. |
| 19:45.58 | malreth | YOW!!! hey everybody! look at me! |
| 19:46.36 | Lopeppeppy | Uh-huh. Yeah. Whuzzup. |
| 19:46.38 | NightHawkTheSane | malreth: is your lab no longer on fire? |
| 19:46.49 | malreth | NightHawkTheSane: it's on a low smolder |
| 19:47.12 | malreth | seriously, tho. crazy shit. |
| 19:47.30 | malreth | there was a game here on saturday. 'horns versus... someone. don't really care. |
| 19:47.38 | malreth | some yahoo organizer guy |
| 19:48.03 | malreth | thought it'd be a great idea to plug some spotlights into the grid that serves two of the lib arts buildings |
| 19:48.17 | malreth | drew too much current, and blew circuit breakers for that part of campus |
| 19:48.39 | malreth | and then didn't tell anyone. 20 minutes later, the UPSs in our server rooms in those buildings died |
| 19:48.49 | malreth | THANKS2U! |
| 19:49.08 | malreth | but our machines were fine because they're awsome... except for one |
| 19:49.44 | Neuro_Medivh | it was Horns vs Mizzou |
| 19:49.48 | Neuro_Medivh | Horns WHOOPED EM! |
| 19:49.48 | malreth | our oldest little xserve.. power supply with bad caps... it was made back in the bad old days of all those failing nvidia cards and dells and stuff |
| 19:50.22 | Neuro_Medivh | UT is in one of the strongest divisions now |
| 19:50.41 | malreth | so it died... but we already had a replacement server. we were planning to transition to it in phases, lab by lab... but nooooo. we had to switch all labs to it immediately on monday morning |
| 19:50.54 | malreth | it took 16 hours |
| 19:50.59 | malreth | but we got it done |
| 19:51.10 | malreth | but we had made one, tiny tiny tiny mistake |
| 19:51.42 | malreth | in the radmind negative file for the classroom podium machines, we accidentally left the ignore line for the network config commented out |
| 19:52.04 | malreth | so when the classroom machines rebuilt themselves overnight, they happily obeyed and deleted their network settings. entirely. |
| 19:52.28 | malreth | 64 computers scattered in over 10 buildings all over campus |
| 19:52.57 | malreth | yeah, so my day and evening yesterday sucked |
| 19:52.58 | Lopeppeppy | Ouch, malreth. Just ouch. |
| 19:53.05 | NightHawkTheSane | malreth: awesome. :P |
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| 19:54.10 | malreth | i got a call from the network admin over there. he calls me up and says, "hey.... so the mac podiums... they're fucked up." "fucked up, you say?" "yeah. fucked up." "well, i'll just make a note of that. ... 'james.... says... the macs... are fucked up'" |
| 19:55.08 | malreth | i then went on and asked about what the opposite of 'fucked up' would be |
| 19:55.34 | malreth | it's an interesting question, you know |
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| 19:57.46 | smcn | abstained down? |
| 19:58.11 | malreth | now, i forget.. is that the inverse? or the converse of the statement? |
| 19:58.28 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/10/22/funny-pictures-claws-beats-paper/ |
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| 19:59.06 | dokomar | does anyone know how i could look up some example coding to go off of to cause the "time_played_msg" event to only fire on the player levelup? |
| 20:05.59 | Shirik|zZz | uh |
| 20:06.02 | Shirik|zZz | does it fire at all on level up? |
| 20:06.18 | dokomar | in the addon i'm working on it fires every second |
| 20:06.25 | Shirik | Also, you can't cause it to "only fire on the player levelup", nor should you need to or be able to |
| 20:06.27 | dokomar | spams the chatbox with the /played command |
| 20:06.32 | Shirik | ...... what? |
| 20:06.36 | Shirik | That sounds like a very bad idea |
| 20:07.55 | dokomar | the point behind it is moreso for it's arguments to pass through it's supposed to only update information in the addon's mouseover tooltip |
| 20:08.05 | dokomar | which it actually does... |
| 20:08.16 | dokomar | but it spams the box too... |
| 20:09.27 | dokomar | seeing as how i need to make a snapshot of the time on current level and save it in a different place to mark as last level time, i'm needing to find a way to keep the /played from firing every second while still doing the function i want |
| 20:11.18 | dokomar | thought about making it all local only but i diddnt want to go that route unless i had to... |
| 20:14.08 | Codex| | so does Ainur sound like a human mage? |
| 20:14.20 | Lopeppeppy | No, it sounds like something a 6th grader would make fun of. |
| 20:15.13 | Codex| | what about Olorin? |
| 20:15.18 | Lopeppeppy | Better. |
| 20:15.19 | Codex| | with double .. omn top of the 2nd o |
| 20:15.26 | Codex| | but that sounds dwarfish to me |
| 20:15.51 | Lopeppeppy | I hate nonstandard keyboards. If you're going special characters on me, I'm out of the game. |
| 20:15.59 | Codex| | non-gnome fantasy mage names rae hard |
| 20:16.08 | Codex| | are* |
| 20:16.13 | Lopeppeppy | No they aren't. *laugh* |
| 20:16.17 | zenzelezz | Löpéppèppÿ :-( |
| 20:16.17 | Codex| | all the good fantasy references are taken |
| 20:16.18 | Codex| | lol |
| 20:16.32 | Lopeppeppy | Why are you referring to anything else at all? Make up your own. |
| 20:16.44 | malreth | my mage's name is Kyleigh |
| 20:16.49 | Lopeppeppy | Ylorin. Alorin. |
| 20:16.51 | malreth | do you know why? |
| 20:16.58 | Codex| | irl name? |
| 20:16.59 | malreth | because she's a human... so she gets a human name |
| 20:17.08 | malreth | not a 'mage' name |
| 20:17.33 | Xuerian | Which is why Bob is such a useful name. |
| 20:17.37 | malreth | yes |
| 20:17.49 | Xuerian | "Bob the mage" "Bob the priest" "Bob the assassin" "Bob for president" |
| 20:17.56 | Xuerian | "Backdoor Bob", etc |
| 20:18.04 | malreth | I'm waiting for an MMO to come out that allows multiple characters with the same name |
| 20:19.31 | zenzelezz | so I went to Slashdot this morning and see the title "LucasArts, Bioware Announce Star Wars MMO", and I can't help but think "SWG, take two" |
| 20:19.52 | Xuerian | You're not the only one |
| 20:19.58 | malreth | zenzelezz: same here |
| 20:20.06 | Xuerian | I'm playing the clip from Zim where gir and zim are crashing down on the pig-carrier |
| 20:20.11 | NightHawkTheSane | .... http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/headline_of_the_day_43 |
| 20:20.22 | NightHawkTheSane | (probably not -entirely- sfw..) |
| 20:20.27 | Xuerian | "Everything is smooth and... *KSHHHH*" "AHHHHHHHHH-AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH-AIIEEEEEE-AHHHHHHHHHHHH" *KBOOOM* |
| 20:20.33 | malreth | i like the whole 'we're totally not going to overhype this game (this time) so instead we won't say anything about anything." slant they're taking with it |
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| 20:21.13 | Xuerian | Pretty much the angle RPS took with it too, i think |
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| 20:22.10 | malreth | because we all know the way to keep your product from being overhyped is to tell people 'we're not saying anything neener neener neener' |
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| 20:22.49 | Xuerian | Well I have to give it to them, there wasn't much conclusive evidence beyond what Bioware had worked on before |
| 20:22.54 | Xuerian | Pretty tight lid |
| 20:23.32 | Lopeppeppy | ttfn, guys. |
| 20:23.38 | zenzelezz | seeya |
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| 20:23.52 | Xuerian | dammit. |
| 20:24.00 | malreth | Lopeppeppy: I love you! |
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| 20:29.11 | linear` | whats like |
| 20:29.17 | linear` | a super simple action bar mod |
| 20:29.21 | linear` | wher eu can do like create 4x4 |
| 20:29.26 | linear` | i just want to put pots on it |
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| 20:30.07 | malreth | 4x4 bar? |
| 20:30.26 | mikma | dominos |
| 20:30.32 | mikma | or bartender4 |
| 20:30.36 | malreth | dominos can only do a 4x3 |
| 20:30.36 | Xuerian | dominos |
| 20:30.38 | Xuerian | er. |
| 20:30.45 | Xuerian | wut? |
| 20:30.51 | Xuerian | You can't shorten them anymore? |
| 20:31.00 | Xuerian | Or lengthen.. |
| 20:31.02 | Xuerian | Right. |
| 20:31.08 | malreth | you could do a 4x3 bar and stick a 1x4 to it |
| 20:31.11 | malreth | i guess |
| 20:31.30 | malreth | if that's okay, then i'd say dominos |
| 20:31.48 | malreth | dead simple easy bar mod and it'll probably work forever |
| 20:31.58 | linear` | kk thx |
| 20:31.59 | malreth | Tuller guarantees that it will. |
| 20:32.10 | malreth | o_o |
| 20:32.23 | mikma | malreth: get cogsbar and make it work on 3.0 |
| 20:32.38 | malreth | if i did that, cogwheel would get lazy |
| 20:32.56 | malreth | it's better that i remain lazy and get other people to do that work |
| 20:33.13 | Xuerian | cogs is taking a day off with that new macro bar mod or whatever it is >_> |
| 20:33.27 | linear` | bleh dominos replaces the default one |
| 20:33.34 | linear` | i just want to add bars on top of default |
| 20:33.42 | mikma | malreth: cogwheel abandoned cogsbar |
| 20:33.53 | malreth | mikma: i know |
| 20:34.14 | malreth | that's why i have to leave it broken |
| 20:34.21 | malreth | so that he'll come back to it and fix it |
| 20:34.47 | linear` | its not that hard to make an actionbutton is it? |
| 20:34.54 | linear` | just use the template and do some setattributes |
| 20:35.11 | malreth | linear`: it's so hard, the guy that wrote the book on it doesn't even have enough time in the day to do it |
| 20:35.18 | mikma | bartender4 |
| 20:36.15 | linear` | are you joking |
| 20:36.22 | malreth | ~malreth |
| 20:36.23 | purl | malreth is always right |
| 20:36.39 | Esamynn | ~factinfo malreth |
| 20:36.39 | purl | malreth -- last modified at Sat Jan 19 23:50:11 2008 by malreth!n=malreth@cpe-72-177-113-22.austin.res.rr.com; it has been requested 72 times, last by malreth, 16s ago; it has been locked by malreth. |
| 20:37.24 | Esamynn | ~lart malreth |
| 20:37.24 | purl | send killer squirrels to attack malreth |
| 20:37.42 | KarlKFI | wow we can lock that? |
| 20:38.10 | KarlKFI | good to know |
| 20:38.14 | mikma | purl: no, malreth is test test |
| 20:38.15 | purl | cannot alter locked factoids, mikma |
| 20:38.20 | mikma | yeap |
| 20:38.28 | KarlKFI | ~KarlKFI |
| 20:38.28 | purl | hmm... karlkfi is another nickname Karl uses, see Anduinlothar. |
| 20:38.35 | KarlKFI | mmm informative |
| 20:38.52 | KarlKFI | ~AnduinLothar |
| 20:38.52 | purl | anduinlothar is, like, an addon author and the Cosmos Team leader. He also goes by KarlKFI and plays a paladin on Kil'jaeden called Wraithhammer. For more information see http://www.wowwiki.com/User:KarlKFI |
| 20:38.53 | Esamynn | ~emulate malreth |
| 20:38.53 | purl | i never thought of myself as narcissistic but you know what? I AM! |
| 20:38.54 | malreth | you can only lock factoids that match your nick |
| 20:39.10 | KarlKFI | i figureds as much |
| 20:39.27 | Codex| | Greymantle for a hu8man mage? :) |
| 20:39.30 | Codex| | omg rogue 8 |
| 20:39.45 | cogwheel | linear`: do you just want a static bar that never changes or do you need paging for stance, etc? |
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| 20:40.51 | linear` | static bar that never changes |
| 20:41.00 | linear` | just need another bar to put pots on because i ran out on default |
| 20:41.31 | cogwheel | you should think outside the bar |
| 20:41.49 | cogwheel | there are far better interfaces for things like pots than action buttons. |
| 20:42.01 | cogwheel | autobar, oPie, etc |
| 20:42.04 | KarlKFI | purl: no, AnduinLothar is an addon author and former Cosmos Team lead. He also goes by KarlKFI and plays a paladin on Doomhammer called Anduinlothar. For more information see http://www.karlkfi.com or http://www.wowwiki.com/User:KarlKFI For addons by Karl see http://www.wowinterface.com/list.php?skinnerid=18098 |
| 20:42.05 | purl | okay, KarlKFI |
| 20:42.18 | KarlKFI | purl, lock anduinlothar |
| 20:42.27 | cogwheel | linear`: what class are you? |
| 20:42.34 | KarlKFI | mmm have to be on that nick |
| 20:42.36 | linear` | shaman |
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| 20:43.04 | malreth | oooh... i love oPie |
| 20:43.21 | foxlit | mm, opie |
| 20:43.32 | cogwheel | linear`: then you'd probably get a lot of benefit out of using a bar alternative rather than cramming more buttons onto your screen |
| 20:43.34 | foxlit | s/o// |
| 20:43.41 | malreth | also, when you say it, it sounds like 'oppai' which means 'big boobs' in japanese |
| 20:44.06 | foxlit | [Oh, Pi!] |
| 20:44.45 | KarlKFI | not to be confused with japa'i which means stargate |
| 20:44.46 | foxlit | But people lower-casing the first letter and upper-casing the P misrepresent things slightly |
| 20:45.05 | mikma | foxlit: hi! |
| 20:45.08 | Codex| | is there a premade databse for newest lootlink |
| 20:45.21 | foxlit | mikma: hey |
| 20:45.38 | KarlKFI | yeah, it's called AtlasLoot |
| 20:45.45 | malreth | KarlKFI: oh man... geek cred |
| 20:46.10 | KarlKFI | :) |
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| 20:47.37 | Codex| | Every Man For Himself doesnt get u out of Net |
| 20:47.38 | Codex| | >.> |
| 20:49.03 | zenzelezz | don't be picky, it works on just about everything else |
| 20:49.42 | KarlKFI | it doesn't? |
| 20:49.44 | malreth | it breaks the headless horseman dot |
| 20:49.46 | KarlKFI | does trinket? |
| 20:49.48 | malreth | i was surprised at that |
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| 20:52.01 | Shirik | Cide: Your algorithm sucks, btw |
| 20:52.13 | Cide | the algorithm killed jeeves |
| 20:52.17 | Shirik | jeeves? |
| 20:52.21 | Xuerian | ... That was kindof random. |
| 20:52.59 | Cide | http://blag.xkcd.com/2007/04/19/billboards/ |
| 20:53.35 | Shirik | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-664493411424324244 |
| 20:54.54 | Neuro_Medivh | lol, achievements were a brilliant idea... people on my server are going nuts for em |
| 20:54.54 | malreth | Randall Munroe is too powerful on the blagoblags |
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| 20:56.12 | malreth | Neuro_Medivh: indeed. anyone familiar with the Bartle archetypes would have known that achievements would be huge |
| 20:56.38 | NeoTron | Neuro_Medivh: I have people that said "achievements are stupid, I will try to avoid them when I can" that are now going nuts for the hallows eve achievements |
| 20:56.48 | malreth | yep |
| 20:56.54 | NeoTron | I'm not trying at all because I'm changing mains |
| 20:56.59 | Neuro_Medivh | same here |
| 20:57.05 | NeoTron | except fishing on my warlock |
| 20:57.12 | NeoTron | since I will never EVER fish on another character :P |
| 20:57.56 | malreth | NeoTron: you'll think differently when you look at that achievements window on your other characters when you get nearly everything else |
| 20:58.07 | malreth | it'll nag at you... gnaw you til you go mad |
| 20:58.18 | NeoTron | malreth: surprisingly it seems to not bother me |
| 20:58.20 | Xuerian | It's like crack.. |
| 20:58.24 | malreth | "I can get just... ten... more points..." |
| 20:58.31 | Xuerian | Inside... of crack |
| 20:58.34 | Xuerian | Wrapped.... IN CRACK |
| 20:58.39 | malreth | "For what?" we'll say |
| 20:58.40 | NeoTron | what I WILL go for is the heroic and/or 10 man raid achievements that give you a 310 mount |
| 21:01.31 | KarlKFI | it's basically a new way to give you quests only without rewards (mostly) and without storyline. |
| 21:02.22 | smcn | NeoTron: hmm the protodrakes are 310? |
| 21:02.36 | KarlKFI | plus they give yout a ton you can get on accident without even trying just to pique your intrest |
| 21:04.58 | smcn | part of me really wants to resub before wrath drops just to fool around with achievements |
| 21:06.20 | Cide | ownt |
| 21:08.52 | NeoTron | smcn: the raid/heroic ones are, yes |
| 21:09.43 | NeoTron | see http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=60021 for example |
| 21:10.47 | Shirik | Cide: better algorithm plox |
| 21:11.00 | Shirik | Need to be able to detect a single spammer |
| 21:11.10 | Cide | no u |
| 21:11.10 | NeoTron | oh wait, the 5-man heroic one is not 310% |
| 21:11.16 | Shirik | :( |
| 21:12.50 | zenzelezz | does it require epic riding skill? |
| 21:12.54 | zenzelezz | *flying |
| 21:16.27 | NeoTron | epic flying mounts usually do... |
| 21:17.06 | NeoTron | if you don't have epic riding skill now I strongly suggest doing all you can do to learn it before WotLK |
| 21:17.24 | Xuerian | o_0 |
| 21:17.28 | Xuerian | Whai's that? |
| 21:17.55 | NeoTron | because you'll be suffering if you only have a normal flying mount due to the size of the zones |
| 21:18.05 | Xuerian | Ah |
| 21:18.25 | Xuerian | Can't use them till 78 anyway, no? By then you'd have most of the flight points |
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| 21:18.28 | NeoTron | 77 |
| 21:18.39 | NeoTron | and you need a flying mount to quest in the last two zones |
| 21:18.46 | Xuerian | urch.. |
| 21:18.56 | Xuerian | Really don't wanna farm another 5k for my alt -_- |
| 21:18.56 | NeoTron | although lacking one they give you a "loaner" or something |
| 21:19.06 | Tem | no |
| 21:19.11 | Tem | you need a mount for 77+ |
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| 21:19.15 | Tem | I don't care what the blues say |
| 21:19.20 | Tem | I've done 77-80 |
| 21:19.27 | ScytheBlade1 | hey Tem |
| 21:19.27 | Tem | you DONT want to do that without a flying mount |
| 21:19.29 | ScytheBlade1 | if you don't have one |
| 21:19.32 | ScytheBlade1 | You'll get a loaner mount |
| 21:19.36 | Tem | I saw the post |
| 21:19.41 | NeoTron | Tem: if they say you get a loaner if you don't have the flying skill, and Tigole is the one saying it, I'm pretty sure he's not lying |
| 21:19.50 | Tem | I think you're not understanding what he means |
| 21:19.51 | ScytheBlade1 | ... likewise you'll be able to do it... |
| 21:19.56 | Xuerian | Whoever doesn't have the normal flyer mount by 77 seriously has gold issues |
| 21:20.16 | Tem | well, Xuerian, the problem is this: CWF requires epic skill |
| 21:20.27 | Xuerian | tem: sonofabitch -_-; |
| 21:20.47 | Tem | for someone who either didn't have a 70 before LK or is starting a new character, they need to come up with 7,000 gold by level 77 |
| 21:20.55 | Xuerian | 7k?! |
| 21:21.06 | Tem | 1000: Normal Flight |
| 21:21.08 | NeoTron | Tem: no, it requires normal flying skill |
| 21:21.11 | Tem | 5000: epic flight |
| 21:21.16 | Tem | 1000: CWF |
| 21:21.20 | Tem | NeoTron: since when? |
| 21:21.22 | Xuerian | ~xuerian |
| 21:21.23 | purl | ACTION lets out a Scrat-like scream and stabs something at random. |
| 21:21.24 | NeoTron | since forever |
| 21:21.28 | Tem | no |
| 21:21.41 | NeoTron | http://www.worldofraids.com/gallery/files/3/0/2/2/0/wowscrnshot_090608_042108_original.jpg |
| 21:21.44 | NeoTron | yes |
| 21:21.45 | Tem | When I trained it on my DK, it required epic riding skill |
| 21:21.48 | Xinhuan | what's a loaner mount? |
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| 21:22.21 | malreth | Xinhuan: i believe it's called your mom |
| 21:22.23 | Tem | is 225 regular flight? |
| 21:22.41 | Xinhuan | did you like our 6 min AV? :) |
| 21:22.44 | Cide | Tem: yes |
| 21:22.52 | Tem | hmm |
| 21:22.53 | Cide | 75, 125, 225, 300 -- normal ground, epic ground, normal fly, epic fly |
| 21:22.55 | Tem | that has changed |
| 21:22.58 | Xuerian | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=54197 |
| 21:23.04 | malreth | Xinhuan: i didn't get the 6 min av... i was there for the Stormpike Perfection run |
| 21:23.05 | Tem | when I trained, i required epic skill |
| 21:23.11 | Tem | s/i r/it r/ |
| 21:23.11 | Xinhuan | oh yeah, |
| 21:23.13 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 21:23.13 | Xuerian | Sucked to be you, no longer sucks to eb me |
| 21:23.15 | Xuerian | <3 |
| 21:23.35 | Tem | regardless, you don't want to do northrend flight without a real flyer |
| 21:23.39 | Tem | the zone are large |
| 21:23.40 | malreth | Xuerian: it's like the only AV achievement that i've got, other than the obvious AV win... oh... and the every little bit counts one |
| 21:23.41 | Xuerian | Well I won't argue that |
| 21:23.42 | Tem | -very- large |
| 21:23.43 | Xinhuan | so Tem, what's a loaner mount? |
| 21:23.51 | Tem | we don't know |
| 21:24.05 | NeoTron | which means you can't comment on whether or not CWF is needed |
| 21:24.07 | Tem | my guess is that there are a couple quests that specifically put you on a mount to use |
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| 21:24.25 | Tem | and that's what they're referring to |
| 21:24.41 | Tem | CWF is required. |
| 21:24.47 | Tem | I don't care what tigole said |
| 21:24.50 | Tem | it's requried |
| 21:24.58 | Tem | and so is epic skill |
| 21:25.00 | NeoTron | "I know you need <X> because <Y> which I know nothing about can't be what <X> is!" ;-) |
| 21:25.04 | Tem | you will go mad without it |
| 21:25.20 | Tuller | I have no idea what that stands for |
| 21:25.34 | NeoTron | we can make assumptions but fact is we don't know until someone actually uses this loaner mount |
| 21:25.35 | Tuller | so I'm going to go with casting while flying |
| 21:25.35 | Tem | NeoTron: you -can- level to 70 by killing nothing but boars. |
| 21:25.40 | Tem | it doesn't make it a good idea |
| 21:25.55 | malreth | Cold Weather Flight? |
| 21:25.56 | NeoTron | yes but we KNOW that is a bad idea |
| 21:26.06 | Hirsute | <--stupid. What's CWF? |
| 21:26.09 | malreth | something like that |
| 21:26.12 | Tem | (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=FBCB40775CDB564C4F8E237F51B145D8.app25_03?topicId=10972023744&sid=1) |
| 21:26.21 | cladhaire | nevcairiel: if it does it with no other addons installed, let me know |
| 21:26.29 | Redguard | Hirsute money pit called cold weather flying for northrend |
| 21:26.29 | cladhaire | otherwise see what you can find out :P |
| 21:26.41 | Hirsute | Oh, yes. |
| 21:26.47 | NeoTron | I'm not disagreeing with the sentiment "epic mount required" in LK in general (and that a normal flyer would be frustrating as heck) but solely disagreeing about it being "required" to quest in storm peaks and icecrown |
| 21:26.49 | Hirsute | Silly me, thanks Redguard |
| 21:26.54 | NeoTron | without knowing what their temporary mount solution is |
| 21:27.09 | cladhaire | Shirik|AFK: ping |
| 21:27.46 | ScytheBlade1 | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=60120 |
| 21:27.49 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ temp mount solution |
| 21:28.24 | Xuerian | tem: Wholy shit 0_o |
| 21:28.43 | NeoTron | seems to indicate a slow flying mount |
| 21:28.45 | Xuerian | "This is not a very fast mount", lol... |
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| 21:29.18 | NeoTron | which means you only need CWF if you have an epic flier |
| 21:29.26 | NeoTron | but if you only have a normal one... there's likely no difference |
| 21:29.31 | Drakhaon | anyone that can help with my button thing..? I cant get it to show |
| 21:29.36 | ScytheBlade1 | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?search=Loaned |
| 21:30.05 | Redguard | notice it is lvl77 |
| 21:30.59 | mikma | whats this temp mount thing |
| 21:31.54 | Xuerian | mikma: Your name is exceedingly annoying to tab to.. Mine is easy, just confusing >:O. ps, goto -30 or so |
| 21:31.57 | Drakhaon | anyone that can check my button code and tell me why it wont show? http://wowuidev.pastey.net/99271 (the frame shows) |
| 21:33.34 | |Jelly| | [14:19]<ScytheBlade1>[#WoWUIDev] kamdis: install Bejeweled <-- |
| 21:33.39 | mikma | xuerian: lululu |
| 21:35.13 | NeoTron | mikma: to allow you to quest in icecrown and storm peaks without cold weather flying |
| 21:35.23 | malreth | i can't wait to log into wow... so i can play more bejeweled |
| 21:36.58 | Industrial | http://www.kongregate.com/games/Kajenx/ether-war |
| 21:37.00 | linear` | some1 make a tetris mod |
| 21:37.00 | Industrial | --^ fucking fun. |
| 21:37.16 | Syzgyn | Drakhaon: is IsShowing() returning true? |
| 21:37.24 | Syzgyn | er, IsShown() |
| 21:37.39 | NeoTron | linear`: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/grav-blox.aspx |
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| 21:37.42 | Syzgyn | Industrial: Agreed ^^ |
| 21:37.52 | NeoTron | warning it's not exactly polished and complete.. |
| 21:38.39 | Xinhuan | linear`: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10100-PuzzleFighter.html |
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| 21:39.30 | linear` | wow |
| 21:39.31 | linear` | amazin |
| 21:40.58 | Drakhaon | Syzgyn > lemme check |
| 21:41.31 | Drakhaon | Syzgyn > TNTMainClose is a nil value - the button doesnt exist :P |
| 21:41.32 | Sixen | Apparently the AQ event is back up |
| 21:41.59 | Drakhaon | Sixen > bugs invading azeroth? |
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| 21:42.04 | Sixen | Yar! |
| 21:42.07 | Drakhaon | cool |
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| 21:42.10 | Neuro_Medivh | as in, the war effort? |
| 21:42.33 | Syzgyn | Drakhaon: What does TNTMain:GetChildren() return? |
| 21:43.20 | UltraNurd | sixen: I heard this was because Kalimdor Loremaster was otherwise unachievable |
| 21:43.23 | Drakhaon | same Syzgyn, nothing |
| 21:43.33 | Sixen | Well, we can do the "Bang a Gong" quest again now. |
| 21:43.52 | Sixen | So the whole Quest chain for that Mount is back |
| 21:44.40 | NeoTron | Sixen: every server supposed to have that event up again? |
| 21:44.43 | Syzgyn | Drakhaon: Oh dur, you need to put the button on a layer. |
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| 21:45.12 | AckisWork | haha I have my diablo 3 stressball at work and when I squeeze it it sounds like I'm taking a nasty shit |
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| 21:45.18 | Amarande | Evening :) |
| 21:46.25 | Syzgyn | Drakhaon: Wrap your button tags in <Frames> |
| 21:46.25 | Syzgyn | This is why I hate using XML |
| 21:46.26 | Drakhaon | ah |
| 21:46.26 | Neuro_Medivh | hey Amarande |
| 21:46.26 | kneeki | I do all my frames in Lua, only my anchors in XML =p |
| 21:46.26 | Drakhaon | just frames? no attributes? |
| 21:47.08 | Sixen | Every server, Neotron. |
| 21:47.09 | Xinhuan | wait, what diablo 3 stressball? |
| 21:47.46 | Syzgyn | Drakhaon: like this http://wowuidev.pastey.net/99273 |
| 21:48.06 | Xinhuan | Sixen, right now? |
| 21:48.39 | Sixen | Yup |
| 21:48.44 | Amarande | yay for another attempt at the chocolate cake recipe. |
| 21:48.46 | Xinhuan | but that doesn't make sense Sixen |
| 21:48.51 | Sixen | Why so? |
| 21:48.55 | Xinhuan | you can still do the quest chain in the first place |
| 21:48.58 | Amarande | btw ... anyone know if achievement progress transfers properly? |
| 21:48.59 | Xinhuan | it was never removed |
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| 21:49.27 | Amarande | or does a transfer end up having only those achievements that that character would have given their deeds if the patch had just come out? |
| 21:49.36 | Legorol | morning folks |
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| 21:49.54 | Xinhuan | only the final step "Bang A Gong" is different depending if you completed it within the first 10 hours of opening the gates |
| 21:51.00 | Amarande | Xinhuan: I'm from Quel'dorei. The first rule of Quel'dorei is that we do not talk about the AQ gates. |
| 21:51.10 | Amarande | There is a very good reason that we do not talk about the AQ gates on QD. |
| 21:51.19 | Xinhuan | :D |
| 21:51.44 | Xinhuan | unfortunately, i do want to ask Sixen what the heck he was talking about |
| 21:51.49 | Amarande | Xinhuan: when the server was new and people were actually working on it, some son of a bitch kid who felt like they deserved a black qiraji battle tank even though he didn't really earn it |
| 21:51.56 | Xinhuan | since the quest chain had never ever been removed in the first place |
| 21:51.56 | Amarande | transferred over to the server and ninja'd the gates credit |
| 21:52.13 | Sixen | heh |
| 21:52.15 | Xinhuan | Amarande, blizzard's fault |
| 21:52.26 | Amarande | Xinhuan: How would Blizzard be able to prevent that? |
| 21:52.30 | Xinhuan | they do not allow xfers in while gates are not open anymore |
| 21:52.36 | Xinhuan | they used to be allowed |
| 21:52.39 | Amarande | Unless you like, deleted ALL quest credits when transferring :) |
| 21:52.48 | Amarande | ah, is THAT why new servers don't allow transfers, unless they are a transfers only server? |
| 21:52.54 | Xinhuan | the "new realm" can't be xferred to in first 6 months |
| 21:53.01 | Xinhuan | and 6 months is when the gates auto opens |
| 21:53.14 | Amarande | Not always. There's been a few realms like Ghostlands that when they were new, they were open ONLY to transfers for the first several weeks |
| 21:53.23 | Xinhuan | the reason for the 6 months no transfers is to allow the people to lvl up evenly |
| 21:53.40 | Amarande | I remember the QQ when Ghostlands opened actually |
| 21:53.42 | Xinhuan | "they were open ONLY to transfers" such servers already have gates open |
| 21:53.54 | Amarande | 'a new realm, and it's only open to transfers dammit' was what people complained |
| 21:54.10 | Xinhuan | yah such xfers new realms should already have gates open |
| 21:54.15 | Amarande | I guess because people wanted a new PvE realm where they could start from scratch without 70's all coming over and polluting the economy with impossible amounts of gold from the get go |
| 21:54.18 | Xinhuan | its really a blizzard oversight |
| 21:54.22 | bleeter | we has zombie world event? |
| 21:54.43 | Amarande | For the most part, there's plenty of dead servers that you can start more or less from scratch on, but 90%+ of those are PvP |
| 21:55.06 | Amarande | why are there so many dead pvp realms, anyway? :| |
| 21:55.37 | Xinhuan | dunno, blizz should merge them |
| 21:55.42 | Xinhuan | merge "dead" realms |
| 21:56.28 | Drakhaon | when making a slider, do I need to actually program it to function or is it enough to create one with the max and min values? |
| 21:57.12 | Drakhaon | and can I remove the textlabels "low" "high"? :D |
| 21:58.08 | Xinhuan | if you are inheriting blizz templates |
| 21:58.12 | Amarande | Xinhuan: I suggested that the other day |
| 21:58.20 | Amarande | but people said that would probably create overpopulated realms |
| 21:59.46 | bleeter | ooh something's happening, an AD healer in UC next to an AD banner |
| 22:00.07 | kamdis | In case any of you were worried that you might be Comic Book Guy, http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081022-study-squashes-myth-of-gamer-as-antisocial-comic-book-guy.html |
| 22:00.28 | Wikwocket | Anyone know of an example of using tooltips in a UIDropDownMenu? Like via info.tooltipText when using UIDropDownMenu_AddButton()? |
| 22:01.26 | Drakhaon | Xinhuan > yea Im using the blizz templates - OptionsSliderTemplate for the slider |
| 22:02.50 | Xinhuan | you can hide the labels |
| 22:02.59 | Xinhuan | if you know the exactname:Hide() |
| 22:03.13 | Drakhaon | ah.. |
| 22:03.18 | Drakhaon | guess I can list children |
| 22:04.56 | Legorol | <= just became Hand of A'dal, hurray |
| 22:06.02 | bleeter | Legorol: grats |
| 22:06.18 | Legorol | contrary to what Blizz said, the title didn't stop with the patch |
| 22:06.23 | Syzgyn | Interesting |
| 22:06.27 | bleeter | yup, def looks like the world event is starting up, in UC at the inkeeper, there's an AD banner and an 'Argent Healer' NPC |
| 22:06.28 | mikma | oh wow |
| 22:06.42 | Drakhaon | anyone got the texturepath for the backpack? :D |
| 22:06.51 | bleeter | Legorol: some friends of mine 'lost' their titles last Tuesday :/ |
| 22:06.59 | Legorol | ouch |
| 22:07.11 | mikma | drakhaon: GetMouse():GetFocus() ? |
| 22:07.19 | Amarande | bleeter: how did you lose titles? |
| 22:07.28 | Amarande | or do you mean they somehow lost eligibility for s4 arena titles? |
| 22:07.39 | bleeter | Amarande: I didn't. friends did. one day they had hand of a'dal, next day after maint they didn't |
| 22:07.44 | Amarande | btw, is 3603 the only working build of Auctioneer right now? |
| 22:07.58 | Amarande | I've noticed that one seems to be ok and everyone else who's been trying newer builds has been getting EPIC FAIL |
| 22:08.03 | Drakhaon | mikma > getmouse returns an error |
| 22:08.05 | bleeter | Amarande: 3662 |
| 22:09.11 | bleeter | kd3: with the world event starting up, I wonder if our 'questions' will get answered (as far as I've seen, it's been a big fat 'gtfo' so far) |
| 22:09.19 | Amarande | so, apparently my mage is now my only one of several elf characters to actually have a name that's in some form of oh, say, elvish. :) |
| 22:09.43 | Codex| | found a cool macro to use if u have a magic broom to appear to not be on a broom but have the same speed |
| 22:09.56 | Amarande | you know what the most irritating thing about the hand and champion titles going away is? |
| 22:09.59 | Amarande | even if you didn't get the titles |
| 22:10.00 | mikma | drakhaon: then i need to find the script |
| 22:10.03 | Codex| | ./dismount /use [nomounted,flyable,nomodifier:alt] Magic Broom /stopmacro [flyable,nomodifier:alt] /use [nomounted] Magic Broom |
| 22:10.05 | Amarande | you STILL have to go through the motions of getting the titles |
| 22:10.12 | Codex| | use that, then 6 seconds later use it again |
| 22:10.17 | Amarande | because you need to kill those bosses for achievements anyway :| |
| 22:10.20 | Codex| | and ull have what appears to be super fast running |
| 22:10.26 | Amarande | except for nightbane, and not needing to do the timed HSH |
| 22:11.08 | Lunessa | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11676598866&sid=1 "Why has this been topic moved to the " UI & MACROS FORUM" ?? " -- I want to say, 'Because you're an ass, and you deserve to be punished." |
| 22:12.41 | Amarande | ok, I FAIL. |
| 22:12.48 | Amarande | I just did the cooking daily and logged out |
| 22:12.53 | Amarande | and forgot to actually, oh, turn it in |
| 22:13.32 | Wikwocket | So no one familiar with tooltips in UIDropDownMenus? I can't seem to get them to work after 3.x |
| 22:13.51 | mikma | drakhaon: Interface\Buttons\UI-Quickslot2 |
| 22:14.24 | Drakhaon | mikma > thanks :D |
| 22:14.35 | mikma | drakhaon: [01:14:28] MainMenuBarBackpackButtonNormalTexture:GetTexture() => "Interface\Buttons\UI-Quickslot2" |
| 22:15.03 | |Jelly| | ~hug Lunessa |
| 22:15.04 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on Lunessa and suddenly hugs Lunessa tightly |
| 22:15.15 | Lunessa | |Jelly|: ROFLMAO |
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| 22:16.22 | Drakhaon | mikma > thats one long itemname :D |
| 22:16.50 | mikma | drakhaon: usually textures for buttons are labeled like "buttonNormalTexture" |
| 22:17.05 | mikma | drakhaon: so, MainMenuBarBackpackButton turns into MainMenuBarBackpackButtonNormalTexture |
| 22:17.14 | mikma | same thing goes with actionbuttons.. |
| 22:17.27 | mikma | ActionButton1 has ActionButton1NormalTexture |
| 22:17.28 | Amarande | hmm |
| 22:17.37 | Amarande | is there a minimum level you need to be to get anything other than toothpicks from trick or treating? |
| 22:17.37 | Drakhaon | ok, tho I just want the texture for the backpack atm, putting icons of each bag into a frame (for a selection thing) |
| 22:17.55 | Amarande | I just got a third stack of toothpicks. :| |
| 22:18.08 | Wikwocket | Amarande: I have had level 1's get masks and candy |
| 22:18.08 | mikma | drakhaon: local texture = MainMenuBarBackpackButtonNormalTexture:GetTexture(); myframe:SetTexture(texture)... job done |
| 22:18.17 | Wikwocket | And tricks of course |
| 22:18.37 | Drakhaon | mikma > true - then Im also secured from any texture changes done to the game |
| 22:19.03 | Amarande | oh wait, I did get a bat wand |
| 22:19.06 | ScytheBlade1 | |Jelly|: win @ your post |
| 22:19.07 | mikma | drakhaon: that back cannot be changed, but that can be used for the 4 userchangeable backs |
| 22:19.09 | Amarande | but other than that I've only got toothpicks :| |
| 22:19.51 | mikma | s/back/bag/ etc |
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| 22:20.22 | Drakhaon | mikma > never know if Blizz adds a new texture |
| 22:20.31 | |Jelly| | I just luff Lunessa too damned much! |
| 22:20.31 | mikma | drakhaon: or changes the back to ... |
| 22:20.36 | Drakhaon | hehe true |
| 22:20.40 | ScytheBlade1 | |Jelly|: clearly |
| 22:20.51 | Drakhaon | but its more likely they add a new texture than rename the button |
| 22:21.02 | mikma | drakhaon: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=23162 |
| 22:21.02 | Lunessa | creepy stalking is creepy, m'kay? |
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| 22:21.27 | mikma | |pez|: how's the ass been lately? |
| 22:21.38 | |Jelly| | Lunessa: I haven't stalked you .. yet! |
| 22:21.48 | Lunessa | Oh man. |
| 22:22.43 | mikma | Oh woman. |
| 22:23.23 | Lunessa | Don't get me started on what's missing in my life. |
| 22:23.39 | |pez| | ... |
| 22:23.41 | |pez| | hi |
| 22:24.05 | |Jelly| | HAI PEZ! |
| 22:24.21 | |pez| | Hai is shark in Norwegian! |
| 22:24.31 | mikma | and in Finnish |
| 22:24.33 | |Jelly| | wut? |
| 22:25.00 | |Jelly| | Why hello there <pez>. How are you on this wonderful ... afternoon (IN AMERICA)? |
| 22:25.08 | mikma | like: Hui! Hai! = Yikes! Shark! |
| 22:25.27 | |pez| | |Jelly|: Doing good! |
| 22:25.33 | |pez| | (I almost wrote goose there.. -__-' |
| 22:27.42 | |Jelly| | Going .. goose? :P |
| 22:27.52 | |Jelly| | Hey look! I actually did write "going" |
| 22:27.56 | |pez| | ... Doing goose. .P |
| 22:29.07 | Lunessa | kinnky |
| 22:29.45 | NightHawkTheSane | i prefer eating goose, but whatever floats your boat. |
| 22:30.15 | kamdis | i prefer you keep geese as far away from me as possible; they are mean little bastards. |
| 22:30.26 | NightHawkTheSane | thats why you should eat them. |
| 22:30.27 | NightHawkTheSane | revenge. |
| 22:30.59 | kamdis | well, as long as they come to me fully prepared and ready to eat, sure. |
| 22:32.24 | Syzgyn | kamdis: Aww, you dont like plucking them and gutting them yourself?! |
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| 22:35.12 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/comet_hair.jpg |
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| 22:37.18 | Lunessa | Ok, I work in a building on campus named "Bayou" and I just got this from a professor here, "If there are little gods walking around in the bayou building, you are one of them." :D |
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| 22:40.03 | kamdis | Not so much, Syzgyn. |
| 22:40.27 | NightHawkTheSane | dammit |
| 22:40.37 | NightHawkTheSane | i misplaced a micro-sd card. i swear im never going to find it |
| 22:40.46 | Lopeppeppy | That's awesome, Lunessa! |
| 22:40.47 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: lol |
| 22:41.22 | NightHawkTheSane | those things are tiny :( |
| 22:41.48 | mikma | nighthawkthesane: did you swallow it? |
| 22:41.57 | mikma | puke, and find out :D |
| 22:42.09 | NightHawkTheSane | no, i think i might have noticed that |
| 22:42.22 | mikma | munchy crunchy |
| 22:43.00 | Lunessa | :D |
| 22:43.46 | NightHawkTheSane | ah, found it |
| 22:46.32 | leethal | zomg zombie invasion |
| 22:46.52 | erikd | has it officially started? |
| 22:47.01 | leethal | in TK atm so not sure |
| 22:47.05 | erikd | ah |
| 22:47.08 | Drakhaon | anyone got the location of the texture database on wowwiki? (all textures listed and sorted by categories) |
| 22:47.15 | leethal | but according to MMO champion it's live on both EU and US |
| 22:47.40 | erikd | ah, last i saw it was only on one server so they thought it might be a bug |
| 22:47.52 | leethal | soooo nifty, <3 blizzard |
| 22:47.52 | Mikk | Drakhaon: http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:WoW_Icons |
| 22:47.58 | leethal | doing nothing 'but adding some nasty crates to booty bay |
| 22:48.02 | Mikk | google is your friend |
| 22:48.07 | leethal | just like the lich king would have done it =) |
| 22:48.32 | Drakhaon | Mikk > I googled it :P all I found was how to make my own textures |
| 22:48.41 | |Jelly| | Anyone know why this song downloaded as [Explicit] ? http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/The-Beginning-is-the-End-is-the-Beginning-lyrics-Smashing-Pumpkins/2043F6D9E10A34FD48256B840031FCF1 |
| 22:48.41 | Mikk | "wowwiki wow icons" |
| 22:48.56 | Amarande | bah, I'm gonna have to roll a priest :| |
| 22:49.00 | leethal | Mikk: wow did you MAKE google?? |
| 22:49.00 | leethal | =P |
| 22:49.08 | Amarande | Jelly: probably comes from the explicit edition of that album |
| 22:49.19 | Amarande | the Explicit label is attached at the album level, not the song |
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| 22:49.33 | |Jelly| | ahh |
| 22:49.35 | art3mis | http://www.lavishsoft.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=43&Itemid=91 <-- neat multiboxing thingy |
| 22:49.36 | |Jelly| | Makes sense. |
| 22:49.40 | Amarande | I'm going to have to roll a priest for one simple reason |
| 22:49.46 | art3mis | priests rule? |
| 22:49.48 | Amarande | there are now an -odd- number of professions. |
| 22:50.01 | art3mis | whats new for lich king? |
| 22:50.21 | Amarande | I currently have: warlock (JC/mining), pally (herb/alch), hunter (eng/BS), and mage (ench/tailor) |
| 22:50.24 | |pez| | .. lots? :D |
| 22:50.30 | Amarande | I'll sooner or later roll a druid or rogue (skinning/LW) |
| 22:50.34 | art3mis | profession wise i meant |
| 22:50.40 | Amarande | which means I then need to roll something else to have inscription |
| 22:50.44 | mikma | didn't they remove the cold weather flying -quest? |
| 22:50.45 | art3mis | ahh |
| 22:50.58 | art3mis | making scrolls? |
| 22:50.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Quest is still there |
| 22:51.01 | Amarande | now, if I want that character's other profession to actually, oh, BE USEFUL |
| 22:51.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Just has a different reward |
| 22:51.03 | art3mis | or rune additions? |
| 22:51.12 | mikma | scytheblade1: so what's the reward then |
| 22:51.18 | ScytheBlade1 | mikma: some item |
| 22:51.33 | mikma | what about the cold weather flying then? |
| 22:51.34 | Amarande | the only real choice seems to be another cloth wearer, so tailoring (for the BoP set)/inscription |
| 22:51.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Trained |
| 22:51.40 | Amarande | and since I already have a mage and a lock, that would have to be a priest |
| 22:51.42 | mikma | nice. |
| 22:51.52 | Amarande | so cold weather flying is now Riding 375 instead of a quest reward? |
| 22:52.18 | Amarande | don't tell me it's gonna cost 10000g or something horrendous like that |
| 22:52.38 | Amarande | even though, seeing as I have an herbalist, I can probably make 10000g by lich king heh |
| 22:52.44 | |pez| | ... cold weather flying ;__; |
| 22:52.47 | cladhaire | inscription > all righ tnow. |
| 22:53.21 | |pez| | I'm almost at 64 though! |
| 22:53.39 | leethal | tank in this tk run has level 30 riding |
| 22:53.39 | leethal | kek |
| 22:54.00 | |pez| | tk? |
| 22:54.06 | mikma | wow, that's cheap |
| 22:54.09 | leethal | tempest keep |
| 22:54.10 | leethal | (the eye) |
| 22:54.17 | art3mis | hey clad |
| 22:54.19 | |pez| | mikma: cheap is sometimes good. |
| 22:54.30 | art3mis | whow as that guy taht used to help out at curse n stuff and used to come in here? |
| 22:54.48 | mikma | |pez|: define? |
| 22:54.49 | Mikk | |pez|: Except it wasn't even possible to get to any tempest keep instances without flying until just recently |
| 22:55.14 | |pez| | sucks to be everyone else who had to fly then. :P |
| 22:55.26 | Mikk | ... and you couldn't summon into instances until recently either |
| 22:55.46 | Mikk | >.< |
| 22:55.59 | mikma | mikk: but you were able to summon to outside of instance |
| 22:56.06 | Mikk | not in netherstorm you weren't |
| 22:56.12 | mikma | oh? |
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| 22:56.18 | Mikk | warlock summons didn't work |
| 22:56.24 | Mikk | had to use the stone... which was down on the ground |
| 22:56.24 | mikma | haa-haa |
| 22:56.53 | Mikk | so yeah.. had to have flyer to get to tk. had do get in tk to get kara key. so... flyer was a requirement for kara |
| 22:57.06 | Mikk | So you've got a happy camper tanking there that hadn't even set a foot in a 10man raid until recently |
| 22:57.08 | Mikk | Enjoy :o) |
| 22:57.08 | |Jelly| | All addons are OFF: Anyone seen this before? http://i38.tinypic.com/25jjsxw.jpg Trying to sell the Four of Furies (obviously) |
| 22:57.29 | Mikk | Wow. That's.... broken. |
| 22:57.32 | Mikk | GM it |
| 22:57.46 | nevcairiel | darkmoon cards are broken, i had that too |
| 22:58.00 | Mikk | I've sold hundreds of them myself |
| 22:58.04 | Mikk | Literally hundreds |
| 22:58.06 | cladhaire | not since the patch |
| 22:58.11 | Mikk | This is true |
| 22:58.15 | cladhaire | its a known issue |
| 22:58.27 | cladhaire | same with non-combat pets. |
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| 22:59.05 | Mikk | I see how BoU things could randomly bug.. but the cards make no sense whatsoever. |
| 22:59.22 | mikma | |jelly|: let me quess. "cannot sell item with used charges" ? |
| 22:59.23 | Mikk | Their only special function is combine -> get a new item. And there's plenty other things that do that. Enchanting essences come to mind. |
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| 23:01.47 | |Jelly| | Yeah |
| 23:04.06 | NeoTron | hmm. did they remove the "auction sold" mails now? |
| 23:04.07 | mikma | i had the same problem. first gm told me to delete wtf cache and interface with ingame mail. second told me to delete the cards i had and mailed them to me |
| 23:04.11 | NeoTron | auction pending thing |
| 23:04.13 | mikma | neotron: yes |
| 23:04.16 | NeoTron | cool |
| 23:04.20 | mikma | they can now be seen in AH as sold |
| 23:04.26 | mikma | and money will get to you after 1h |
| 23:05.06 | Drakhaon | bah.. Im too tired for this.. in what folder is INV_Misc_Bomb_05 located? what other folders than Icons is there? |
| 23:07.37 | mikma | drakhaon: what item uses that icon |
| 23:08.11 | Drakhaon | its a pack of dynamite |
| 23:08.28 | Drakhaon | so Id guess engineer items |
| 23:08.44 | mikma | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32406 |
| 23:08.46 | mikma | this? |
| 23:08.49 | Drakhaon | Ive tried with Interface\Inventory etc |
| 23:08.54 | p3lim | why is all my addons pending? |
| 23:09.02 | mikma | admins are sleeping |
| 23:09.10 | Drakhaon | no but close =) but that one works too |
| 23:09.38 | p3lim | but mikma, i havent uploaded everything |
| 23:09.52 | mikma | omg omg omg, they are getting removed! |
| 23:10.21 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 23:10.24 | Drakhaon | mikma > what folder would that icon use then? |
| 23:10.31 | Xinhuan | [10/23 06:57:46] <nevcairiel> darkmoon cards are broken, i had that too |
| 23:10.32 | mikma | drakhaon: dunno :D |
| 23:10.37 | Xinhuan | that's cos the cards can stack now |
| 23:10.41 | p3lim | mikma: http://upload.snelhest.org/images/081023pending.bmp |
| 23:10.46 | Xinhuan | like having multiple Four of Storms |
| 23:10.50 | Drakhaon | mikma > :D |
| 23:11.04 | mikma | drakhaon: "Interface\\Icons\\INV_Misc_Bomb_05" |
| 23:11.23 | mikma | drakhaon: http://fin.instinct.org/addons/archive-pre-v2/unused/WL_RecipeBox/TextureList.lua |
| 23:13.01 | Drakhaon | *slaps* gah! ofcourse!! double slashes.... *stabs self* |
| 23:13.42 | Neuro_Medivh | there some kind of zombie event going on? |
| 23:13.44 | Amarande | say, do highest end caster swords and daggers in WOTLK still only have about 41 dps? |
| 23:14.57 | bleeter | lol crossroads zombie ownership lololol |
| 23:15.59 | mikma | neuro_medivh: apparently since everyone is infected and it's spreading like hell |
| 23:16.20 | Amarande | uh oh |
| 23:16.21 | NeoTron | with my luck it'll be over by the time I log on |
| 23:16.23 | Amarande | should I stay out of silvermoon? |
| 23:17.54 | p3lim | is UNIT_POWER an actual event? |
| 23:18.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes |
| 23:18.11 | bleeter | i'd say capitals are pretty safe, wont be attacking lvl 75 guards a s a 5 man party of zombies |
| 23:18.19 | bleeter | 40 man.. hmm considering ;) |
| 23:18.21 | p3lim | what are its args? |
| 23:18.31 | leethal | p3lim: can has api! |
| 23:18.44 | ScytheBlade1 | The UnitID that has the power updated |
| 23:18.48 | ScytheBlade1 | That's the only arg |
| 23:18.55 | ScytheBlade1 | (unitID, not unit name) |
| 23:18.59 | p3lim | oh ok, mostly the same as UNIT_MANA then |
| 23:19.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes |
| 23:19.10 | ScytheBlade1 | And UNIT_HEALTH |
| 23:19.13 | p3lim | ye |
| 23:19.15 | ScytheBlade1 | They all work in a similar fashion |
| 23:19.31 | mikma | afaik power means all "power" that chars use, rage, energy, mana, runic.. |
| 23:19.35 | p3lim | whats the difference between UNIT_MANA and UNIT_POWER then? |
| 23:19.42 | p3lim | ah just a mashup? |
| 23:19.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 23:19.59 | ScytheBlade1 | UNIT_MANA may not be legit then, sec |
| 23:20.09 | p3lim | cause people have reported that UNIT_POWER doesnt update enough |
| 23:20.15 | p3lim | while UNIT_MANA does |
| 23:20.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, yeah, UNIT_MANA exists |
| 23:20.27 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/U |
| 23:20.30 | p3lim | yeah |
| 23:20.44 | ScytheBlade1 | And I'd imagine that _most_ people are still confused how to work the "predicted power/health" into their unitframes |
| 23:20.46 | p3lim | aint much updated info on wowwiki tho |
| 23:21.05 | ScytheBlade1 | When you enable the predicted power, the UI ignores the events *entirely* |
| 23:21.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Sooo |
| 23:21.33 | p3lim | Whats this predicted power you speak of? |
| 23:21.34 | mikma | might be even so that mana ain't included in UNIT_POWER, only rage energy and runic... who knows |
| 23:21.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Allows you to display your mana/energy/rage/etc in updates of more than every 1/2sec |
| 23:22.04 | ScytheBlade1 | But rather as often as 60+ times per second it'll update |
| 23:22.15 | ScytheBlade1 | (Note: ONLY works for the player) |
| 23:22.28 | p3lim | you mean using OnUpdates? |
| 23:22.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 23:22.55 | p3lim | yeah |
| 23:22.58 | ScytheBlade1 | The stock UI doesn't register the UNIT_POWER, UNIT_* events for the player frame |
| 23:23.01 | p3lim | oUF has that feature |
| 23:23.10 | ScytheBlade1 | And instead calls the UnitPower()/etc functions on every OnUpdate |
| 23:23.24 | ScytheBlade1 | So when people say that "UNIT_POWER" doesn't fire "often enough" |
| 23:23.28 | Drakhaon | mikma > you happen to know the "tag" for making a normal text label? tried to look at wowwiki for text and label but only found attributes for other items |
| 23:23.39 | ScytheBlade1 | My first guess is that they're tring to play with the new predicted power, without an understanding of how it works |
| 23:23.45 | Drakhaon | fontstring? |
| 23:23.53 | Syzgyn | Where is the option for the predicted power in the UI? |
| 23:23.54 | p3lim | ScytheBlade1: no |
| 23:24.00 | ScytheBlade1 | afaik UNIT_POWER and UNIT_MANA have no bugs, but I could easily be wrong |
| 23:24.05 | p3lim | it doesnt update as often as UNIT_MANA |
| 23:24.09 | p3lim | thats the issue |
| 23:24.22 | Amarande | yay |
| 23:24.25 | Amarande | mages are super win and awesome |
| 23:24.28 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm doing calc, I don't have time to poke, this assignment closes in 40m :) |
| 23:24.40 | p3lim | i dont have onupdate scripts for my raid layout (cpu waste), i still use the events |
| 23:24.52 | mikma | drakhaon: normal text in what what? |
| 23:24.57 | ScytheBlade1 | It won't work for anyone but the player anyway, so that's definitely a good thing |
| 23:25.12 | Drakhaon | mikma > a label inside a frame |
| 23:25.27 | p3lim | Havent tested that.. |
| 23:25.29 | vithos | it seems to work for playerpet too |
| 23:25.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 23:25.38 | mikma | drakhaon: lets see |
| 23:25.45 | vithos | at least, my pet's focus bar updates continuously on oUF_P3lim :P |
| 23:25.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes, it'll work for the unitid "player" and "playerpet" is likely |
| 23:25.59 | ScytheBlade1 | (Though I haven't tested playerpet) |
| 23:26.13 | p3lim | anyways, its only for raid frames that im using UNIT_POWER, but it doesnt update nearly enough as UNIT_MANA, thats the issue |
| 23:26.51 | p3lim | i do have those frequent updates on my other frames with no problem |
| 23:26.55 | mikma | drakhaon: local text = block:CreateFontString(nil, nil, "GameFontNormalSmall") |
| 23:27.03 | p3lim | Syzgyn: I think its default |
| 23:27.11 | mikma | drakhaon: text:SetPoint("LEFT", block, "LEFT", 7, 0) text:SetPoint("RIGHT", block, "RIGHT", -7, 0) |
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| 23:27.37 | Drakhaon | and block is? |
| 23:27.41 | mikma | drakhaon: text:SetText("foo!") |
| 23:27.43 | p3lim | any frame |
| 23:27.45 | Drakhaon | oh, nvm |
| 23:27.48 | Drakhaon | the parent |
| 23:27.58 | p3lim | Drakhaon: if you have a button you can set the text directly btw |
| 23:28.03 | mikma | block is the frame you want the text in |
| 23:28.27 | Drakhaon | p3lim > not a button, a simple textstring |
| 23:28.35 | p3lim | what is the frame? |
| 23:28.40 | p3lim | its parent that is |
| 23:28.49 | Drakhaon | TNTMain |
| 23:29.09 | p3lim | hm.. that is part of what addon? |
| 23:29.15 | Drakhaon | my own |
| 23:29.20 | p3lim | ah ok |
| 23:29.26 | mikma | well replace the block from all of my paste with TNTMain |
| 23:29.34 | Dewin | hmm... Macaroon + zombie = no abiltiies |
| 23:29.36 | p3lim | then just create fontstring as mikma just posted you |
| 23:29.37 | Drakhaon | mikma > yea got that part =) |
| 23:29.53 | p3lim | Dewin: dont post it here, post at the issue tracker |
| 23:30.05 | Dewin | I know, I'm just commenting while I try (and fail) to get firefox to load the site |
| 23:30.13 | Amarande | hmm, I think I will be really glad when I get slow fall |
| 23:30.16 | mikma | drakhaon: the SetPoint is also needed to set the limits for the textwidth until it gets chopped |
| 23:30.16 | Amarande | I've only died twice thus far. |
| 23:30.19 | Amarande | Both times from falling. :) |
| 23:30.32 | p3lim | Amarande: it has a reagent |
| 23:30.46 | Amarande | p3lim: isn't there a glyph you can get to disabuse yourself of that difficulty? |
| 23:31.08 | p3lim | Amarande: havent bothered to look at glyphs for any class yet |
| 23:31.24 | p3lim | (except the 50+min thorns one for my druid :)) |
| 23:31.34 | Cairenn | hahahhaha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0id9fUYb95A |
| 23:31.37 | Drakhaon | mikma > wont it just "grow" if I dont set a width? |
| 23:31.54 | mikma | drakhaon: yes, over the box edgeds |
| 23:31.59 | mikma | edges* |
| 23:32.09 | Dolby | p3lim: did you need something? (replied to your msg) |
| 23:32.17 | mikma | and thats something you dont want |
| 23:32.24 | p3lim | yeah just finding my link Dolby |
| 23:32.41 | Drakhaon | mikma > in this case it wont matter - its fixed values |
| 23:33.14 | mikma | drakhaon: like: m[essag]e vs. [mess...] |
| 23:33.39 | mikma | the setpoint makes the last example happen |
| 23:33.58 | Drakhaon | ok |
| 23:34.04 | mikma | text wont go over the box's edges but chops the overlong text |
| 23:34.15 | Drakhaon | and adds the dots? |
| 23:34.19 | mikma | ya |
| 23:34.32 | kamdis | Cairenn: hilarious |
| 23:35.25 | bleeter | lolol all bankers and AH NPCs have been infected in Org on a certain realm.. could be .. entertaining |
| 23:35.25 | Drakhaon | the both points (in this case LEFT) should always be the same or is the first the parent relative and second self relative? |
| 23:36.03 | Codex| | with what bleeter? |
| 23:36.16 | Drakhaon | the scourge :P |
| 23:36.23 | Drakhaon | Northrend spoofs |
| 23:37.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Cairenn: thats hilarious. :) |
| 23:37.35 | bleeter | lvl 75 guards make this world event not as fun as it could be, tho |
| 23:37.54 | NeoTron | just need to make a bigger zombie army |
| 23:38.38 | Drakhaon | a gazillion undead would work |
| 23:39.02 | NeoTron | the undead mantra: quantity over quality |
| 23:39.29 | mikma | drakhaon: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Region/SetPoint |
| 23:41.43 | Codex| | i just landed in ratchet and there are 500 geyphons on the spot |
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| 23:42.15 | Codex| | oh shit |
| 23:42.19 | NeoTron | zombie eating gryphons |
| 23:42.21 | Codex| | thats my server that the npcs are infected... |
| 23:42.26 | Codex| | cenarius |
| 23:42.30 | Codex| | the flight master is infected |
| 23:42.40 | Codex| | what does the zombie debuff do? |
| 23:42.45 | mikma | where is all this happening in wow? |
| 23:42.46 | NeoTron | makes you into a zombie |
| 23:42.54 | NeoTron | mikma: all servers, all over/ |
| 23:43.02 | mikma | where has it start |
| 23:43.10 | Codex| | k i havent heard about this zombie event, i gotta go look it up |
| 23:43.18 | Drakhaon | mikma > thanks for all help =) |
| 23:43.24 | Xinhuan | all servers mikma, originates in booty bay crates |
| 23:43.27 | NeoTron | some conspicious crates in booty bay... |
| 23:43.32 | mikma | more info needed =) |
| 23:43.44 | mikma | and screenshots! |
| 23:43.48 | mikma | drakhaon: yw =) |
| 23:43.55 | erikd | mmo-champion.com has info and ss's |
| 23:44.13 | erikd | and i'm heading home, ttyl! |
| 23:44.19 | NightHawkTheSane | i guess i need to go to booty bay and infect the world, bwahaha! |
| 23:46.06 | Xinhuan | its not that easy ;p |
| 23:46.28 | NightHawkTheSane | maybe. but i've got to try. :P |
| 23:48.41 | mikma | drakhaon: http://mikma-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ all of my outdated stuff is there, with horrible, old addons everyone hats |
| 23:48.46 | mikma | hates* |
| 23:49.03 | NightHawkTheSane | i, personally, hat them. |
| 23:49.18 | mikma | the latest stuff i have are in wowi svn |
| 23:49.34 | mikma | i hat you too nighthawkthesane |
| 23:50.00 | |pez| | haaat |
| 23:50.15 | ScytheBlade1 | ! |
| 23:50.17 | mikma | oh wow, i should sleep since i cant type at all |
| 23:50.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Suddenly the "Zombie" language they added makes sense |
| 23:50.30 | mikma | |pez|: ASShat! |
| 23:50.30 | Codex| | SOME HORDE WAS KICKING MY ASS AND I TURNED INT OA ZOMBIE JUST BEFORE I DIED AND GOT REVENGE |
| 23:50.32 | Codex| | oops caps |
| 23:50.33 | ScytheBlade1 | They've been planning the event since pre-2.4 |
| 23:50.33 | Codex| | my bad |
| 23:50.41 | Codex| | :/ |
| 23:50.46 | NeoTron | there's a zombie language? heh |
| 23:50.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes there is |
| 23:50.53 | Codex| | yea, apparently its called caps |
| 23:51.00 | kamdis | omg no spoilers, i'm leaving for home now! :P |
| 23:51.00 | mikma | hah |
| 23:51.04 | |pez| | mikma: You hat my ass? ;__; |
| 23:51.06 | kamdis | night all |
| 23:51.13 | NeoTron | does zombie form last until you die or is it time limited? |
| 23:51.15 | |Jelly| | night! |
| 23:51.19 | mikma | |pez|: sure, why not! |
| 23:51.26 | Codex| | my irc comnsole has this error : DISMOUNT Unknown command |
| 23:51.27 | Xinhuan | lasts until you die |
| 23:51.28 | Codex| | :/ |
| 23:51.36 | Xinhuan | i couldn't really see actually |
| 23:51.36 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: .. you know.. in retrospect.. i remember seeing that last night in /trade >.> |
| 23:51.38 | Xinhuan | i died in 5 secs |
| 23:51.39 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 23:51.40 | Codex| | well thats great im locked out of my server |
| 23:51.45 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 23:51.53 | Codex| | im zombified and then the stv boat went to kalimdor |
| 23:51.56 | Codex| | now im locked out |
| 23:52.01 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 23:52.02 | Codex| | keep gettiogn dcd |
| 23:52.04 | Codex| | getting* |
| 23:52.13 | Codex| | eery time i zone |
| 23:52.15 | |pez| | mikma: Because, it's a damned great ass! |
| 23:52.39 | Codex| | this happened to me when i zoned into a bg when the bgs were down |
| 23:52.40 | mikma | screenshot or it didn't happen |
| 23:52.56 | Codex| | on the char screen my char has no location |
| 23:53.01 | |pez| | mikma: not gonna happen :D |
| 23:53.13 | mikma | it didn't happen! |
| 23:53.24 | Codex| | ok, why is it disconnecting me on login |
| 23:53.24 | |pez| | Alrighty then |
| 23:53.49 | mikma | my ass is great too. too bad i can only feel it, not see it |
| 23:54.21 | NightHawkTheSane | i can fix that |
| 23:54.31 | *** join/#wowuidev alestane (n=nevin@c-76-24-240-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 23:54.31 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v alestane] by ChanServ |
| 23:54.41 | Codex| | i need to page a gm, dont i |
| 23:54.46 | Codex| | going to take 5 years to get back in |
| 23:54.58 | mikma | i can show it to you by sitting on your face nighthawkthesane |
| 23:55.51 | mikma | nighthawkthesane: teh you can do /nick Night |
| 23:55.52 | |pez| | mikma: let us see it! ;D |
| 23:56.00 | mikma | HawkTheInsane |
| 23:56.13 | Amarande | say ... |
| 23:56.17 | mikma | |pez|: come and look |
| 23:56.20 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: but i'm sane. and that nick is too long. :( |
| 23:56.24 | Amarande | when you attack with a fishing pole |
| 23:56.28 | |pez| | http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1766085 :D |
| 23:56.32 | Amarande | is a fixed level based value used, or is your fishing skill used as the weapon skill? |
| 23:56.35 | |pez| | mikma: too far away |
| 23:56.41 | mikma | nighthawkthesane: DayHawkTheInsane |
| 23:56.52 | NightHawkTheSane | that's crazy talk |
| 23:56.59 | mikma | same lenght |
| 23:57.10 | NightHawkTheSane | |pez|: nah, mikma's outside your window.. right now *nod* |
| 23:57.22 | mikma | sha-sha-shake it |
| 23:57.41 | Codex| | i hope blizz gets these bugs fixed and soon |
| 23:57.52 | Codex| | the zombie is so powerful im locked out |
| 23:58.32 | Codex| | at least its a known issue |
| 23:58.33 | Codex| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11676599001&sid=1 |
