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| 00:01.40 | dokomar | so basically my problem is that i'm not sure where to go from here someone gave me the idea to define the function in as a "firing" value but that hasnt since worked |
| 00:02.23 | dokomar | they were able to figure out that CLT was firing too late in the whole layout |
| 00:02.51 | Amarande | say, was spirit rez originally supposed to cost xp instead of giving rez sickness and dura loss? |
| 00:03.27 | Amarande | that would have sucked :) |
| 00:03.39 | Amarande | "Sorry, I can't attend our raid tonight, I had to spirit rez and now I'm not level 60 anymore" |
| 00:03.46 | dokomar | lol |
| 00:04.40 | NeoTron | the death/res system changed A LOT during the original alpha/beta |
| 00:04.46 | NeoTron | but it never cost sp |
| 00:04.47 | NeoTron | xp |
| 00:05.09 | Amarande | according to the wow docs, it was originally slated to |
| 00:05.20 | Amarande | that's why the function for saying yes in that dialog is AcceptXPLoss() |
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| 00:06.53 | Kaso | Remember when you had to bind to the grave yard in an area when you got there? otherwise you'd go flying back to whever you last bound |
| 00:06.57 | Kaso | in the beta iirc |
| 00:07.11 | Kaso | Or was that proposed then changed before the beta |
| 00:07.14 | Esamynn | anyone heard of an addon to keep track of which classes of debuffs are currently on (or missing from) a hostile unit? |
| 00:07.16 | Esamynn | example: as a druid, if Trauma is already up, I don't want to bother with Mangle |
| 00:07.24 | Kaso | man my memory of back then is so poor, it was only a few years ago >< |
| 00:09.04 | Fisker- | haste :( |
| 00:09.07 | Fisker- | people is ganking me |
| 00:09.18 | NeoTron | Kaso: indeed. don't forget to bind your corpse! |
| 00:09.27 | Fisker- | are* |
| 00:09.34 | NeoTron | also remember when dying / ressing was free and people used it as a hearth |
| 00:10.56 | Lunessa | e rides across the nation, the thoroughbred of sin! |
| 00:11.35 | NightHawkTheSane | He got the application that you just sent in / it needs evaluation, so let the games begin |
| 00:12.32 | Lunessa | A heinous crime, a show of force / (a murder would be nice of course) |
| 00:14.09 | mikma | nighthawkthesane: lol look, i made my irssi lowercase you all! |
| 00:14.31 | mikma | mikma got low low low low low ... |
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| 00:27.31 | Industrial | wtb bow on my back |
| 00:27.36 | Industrial | as hunter |
| 00:27.46 | Industrial | and arrows. |
| 00:29.04 | kd3 | whee... realm full |
| 00:29.41 | Amarande | ahh, the advantage to only having one high pop realm that I play on and the rest are medium or low |
| 00:29.47 | Amarande | I never, ever have seen 'realm full' when I log on |
| 00:29.57 | ScytheBlade1 | haha, wow @ Family Guy comparing McCain/Palin to the WWII Nazis |
| 00:30.33 | Sixen | hahaha |
| 00:30.46 | Amarande | family guy ftl |
| 00:30.54 | ScytheBlade1 | "comparing" is being incredibly nice too |
| 00:37.29 | kd3 | c'mon... 11 people |
| 00:39.59 | Amarande | kd3: brings back memories of Diablo 2, doesn't it? |
| 00:40.03 | Amarande | "YOU ARE IN LINE TO CREATE A GAME" |
| 00:40.17 | kd3 | indeed |
| 00:46.11 | Mike-N-Go | Whoot, buffing totems last for 5 moments! If only I could move them... |
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| 01:01.05 | Shirik | So I'm looking at the onboard computer my team has recommended for the car we're working on |
| 01:01.14 | Shirik | and I read the environmental restrictions and I come across this warning: |
| 01:01.30 | Shirik | "CompactRIO modules are intended for indoor use only." |
| 01:01.46 | Mike-N-Go | ~seen thegabbert |
| 01:01.48 | purl | Mike-N-Go: i haven't seen 'thegabbert' |
| 01:03.08 | Amarande | Shirik: your team fails |
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| 01:07.55 | elite3vil | kd3: Poking the queue won't help when the server just exploded, again. |
| 01:08.42 | Amarande | which server's riding the failboat? |
| 01:09.03 | elite3vil | Medivh, again. |
| 01:09.51 | Amarande | heh |
| 01:09.52 | Amarande | you know |
| 01:09.58 | Amarande | I actually considered transferring to Medivh once :| |
| 01:10.53 | elite3vil | we're recruiting |
| 01:11.07 | elite3vil | but hoping that blizz opens up free realm xfers. |
| 01:11.20 | Amarande | I can't believe they offered them to Quel'dorei not long ago |
| 01:11.41 | Amarande | but that was before it became apparent that we're not going to be able to keep the guild I'm in alive |
| 01:11.44 | Amarande | so I didn't do it :S |
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| 01:13.05 | elite3vil | We killed KJ, looked at the loot, and the server exploded. |
| 01:13.11 | elite3vil | took ~5mins |
| 01:13.35 | elite3vil | and now my pally is stuck in SWP |
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| 01:22.11 | Shirik | does anyone know what a caret might mean in a specifications list? |
| 01:22.19 | Shirik | Resistive strapping .............................1 kÙ to 3.3 V |
| 01:22.21 | Shirik | eh |
| 01:22.29 | Shirik | that U is actually a ^ |
| 01:22.47 | Lunessa | No clue. I give up. |
| 01:22.54 | ScytheBlade1 | ~Lunessa++ |
| 01:23.05 | Lunessa | SBO ++ |
| 01:23.26 | Lunessa | And just to prove that I'm not paying attention: http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/earth/4243793.html |
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| 01:24.14 | Shirik | ~karma Lunessa |
| 01:24.14 | purl | lunessa has karma of 1 |
| 01:24.19 | Shirik | ~karma ScytheBlade1 |
| 01:24.19 | purl | scytheblade1 has karma of 5 |
| 01:24.21 | Shirik | ! |
| 01:24.23 | Shirik | wtf |
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| 01:26.00 | ScytheBlade1 | ~karma Shirik |
| 01:26.00 | purl | shirik has karma of 6 |
| 01:26.05 | ScytheBlade1 | .......................................................... |
| 01:26.10 | Shirik | OWNED |
| 01:26.32 | ScytheBlade1 | How....? |
| 01:27.37 | Amarande | ~karma C |
| 01:27.37 | purl | c has karma of 10 |
| 01:27.47 | Amarande | ~karma amarande |
| 01:27.47 | purl | amarande has neutral karma |
| 01:28.06 | Amarande | ~karma Blizzard |
| 01:28.06 | purl | blizzard has neutral karma |
| 01:30.33 | Shirik | ~karma karma |
| 01:30.33 | purl | karma has karma of 6 |
| 01:30.45 | Shirik | ~karma Cairenn |
| 01:30.45 | purl | cairenn has karma of 2 |
| 01:30.49 | Shirik | ~Cairenn++ |
| 01:30.58 | Cairenn | :) |
| 01:31.11 | ScytheBlade1 | (He only did that because of the photo) |
| 01:32.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Sorry, that was stupid |
| 01:32.41 | ScytheBlade1 | die migraine, die calculus |
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| 01:43.30 | Shirik | Change log: |
| 01:43.33 | Shirik | 1 .?20-Oct-2008Updated SRS with stuff and things |
| 01:43.38 | Shirik | ... |
| 01:45.33 | Yssaril | NightHawkTheSane: btw your scanner gives the wrong speed for some of the new proto drakes (some of them are 310 speed which is not reflected in their tooltip) |
| 01:45.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Yssaril: >.> |
| 01:45.48 | Neuro_Medivh | btw, the Oculus is a once-only type of dungeon =) |
| 01:46.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Yssaril: can you give me the spell-id of some? |
| 01:46.21 | Yssaril | NightHawkTheSane: working on it :P got to find all of them first :) |
| 01:46.42 | Amarande | Once-only dungeon? |
| 01:46.44 | Amarande | How does that work? |
| 01:46.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Yssaril: well, just one is fine, i want to look at the tooltip |
| 01:47.04 | Yssaril | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=59976 |
| 01:47.12 | Amarande | the only time I've ever even -seen- something like that in an online game are the dungeons you go through in Guild Wars to initially get to Eye of the North |
| 01:47.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Yssaril: >.> Man, fuck blizzard. wtb some consistency. |
| 01:47.57 | Yssaril | NightHawkTheSane: one can only dream |
| 01:48.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Yssaril: honestly, I'm content to call that a tooltip bug. it should be "This is and extremely fast mount.", i say /bug it. |
| 01:48.37 | NightHawkTheSane | or, its a mount bug, and it ought to be a 280 speed, either way. |
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| 01:49.23 | Yssaril | NightHawkTheSane: they are the new gladiator drakes so id say tooltip bug |
| 01:49.39 | Yssaril | will fix blacklist them though muahahahaha |
| 01:49.45 | NightHawkTheSane | well, the black proto drake is not a gladiator one. |
| 01:49.53 | NightHawkTheSane | but *shrug* |
| 01:50.19 | Yssaril | NightHawkTheSane: same idea though extreamly hard to get |
| 01:51.03 | Amarande | say, is the albino drake from the achievement a 280 or a 310? |
| 01:51.08 | NightHawkTheSane | 280 |
| 01:51.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Yssaril: honestly, i was debating between even making a distinction between 280s and 310s, given that most people will only have one.. MAYBE two |
| 01:52.04 | Yssaril | hehe |
| 01:52.17 | Amarande | heck, aside from TK phoenix and the arena ones, how many 310's are there? |
| 01:52.20 | NightHawkTheSane | well, most people with a 310.. which is still only like .0000000001% of wow population :p |
| 01:53.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: currently in game, those are the only available 310s. The Black drake linked above would be another available in wotlk, as well as presumably new arena rewards. but thats all unless Yssaril turns up more |
| 01:53.49 | WobWork | Yssaril: Once only dungeons like newbie starter areas in say, lotro? |
| 01:54.10 | Amarande | Or pre-searing GW:Prophecies? |
| 01:54.32 | NightHawkTheSane | So, anyone familiar with Secure handlers, and wrap scripts.. there's NO way to access any functions outside the string you pass in WrapScript, right? |
| 01:54.43 | Yssaril | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=60024 and http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=60021 are also 310 proto drakes |
| 01:55.57 | NightHawkTheSane | so all the moronically rare mounts. ;) although "what a long strange trip it's been" probably wont be -too- rare a year from now |
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| 01:56.55 | Yssaril | NightHawkTheSane: also classfided wrong http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=32345 |
| 01:57.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Zootfizzle: can you do me a favor and murder the guys who did the tooltips for those mounts? :D |
| 01:57.54 | Yssaril | NightHawkTheSane: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=40192 this one as well :P |
| 01:58.02 | NightHawkTheSane | .. you're making me cry, now. |
| 01:58.44 | NightHawkTheSane | actually, 32345 is a non-player-accessible item, anyway |
| 01:58.46 | ScytheBlade1 | NightHawkTheSane: know what you should do? Petition Zoot to give you access to the Z coords, so you can just figure it out yourself ;) |
| 01:58.48 | Yssaril | NightHawkTheSane: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=43810 gets classified as ground mount but is a flighing one :P |
| 01:58.59 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: what? why do i need that? |
| 01:59.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Then you could calculate speed accurately without building long lists |
| 01:59.25 | ScytheBlade1 | No need for one central "must be kept up to date" list |
| 01:59.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Or tooltip scanning |
| 01:59.49 | NightHawkTheSane | ... except i want to determine a mounts speed without mounting it |
| 02:00.07 | NightHawkTheSane | so z coordinates would be useless. and even so, uh.. GetUnitSpeed() |
| 02:00.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Meh, it'd also be a ton less effort, and it could be figured out in less than a second |
| 02:00.43 | NightHawkTheSane | except it's not the problem that needs solving. ;) |
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| 02:00.47 | Yssaril | i just want GetMountInfo(spellid) to return all the info for me :P |
| 02:00.48 | ScytheBlade1 | meh! |
| 02:01.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Yssaril: i've said it before and i'll say it again, GetCompanionInfo() just needs two more reeturns, mountType and mountSpeed |
| 02:01.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Or that |
| 02:02.07 | Neuro_Medivh | Amarande: When I said once-only dungeon, I meant it's the kind of dungeon you'll do once, just to see it, and then NEVER AGAIN |
| 02:02.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Neuro_Medivh: i liked oculus >.> |
| 02:02.46 | Neuro_Medivh | eww, I couldn't stand it... I can't ever tell where anything is, cause when mounted I can never seem to scroll my camera out enough |
| 02:03.07 | Neuro_Medivh | I find myself hating any quest where I have to control an engine/mount/whatever |
| 02:03.07 | NightHawkTheSane | it seemed fairly straightforward to me |
| 02:03.09 | Amarande | oh, I thought you meant one that you only CAN do once |
| 02:03.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Neuro_Medivh: have you set your cameraMaxDistanceFactor or whatever that CVAR is? |
| 02:03.32 | Amarande | so basically, oculus sucks like a hoover |
| 02:03.46 | Neuro_Medivh | I'm sure some peopel will find it great |
| 02:03.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: nah, personal opinionm, like anything else. |
| 02:04.02 | Amarande | besides, right now Neuro is probably inclined to be annoyed |
| 02:04.04 | Neuro_Medivh | but you spend half the dungeon on back of a drake, shooting other drakes |
| 02:04.08 | Amarande | seeing that Medivh keeps ending up down |
| 02:04.09 | Dewin | hmm... think a 46 pyromage can solo deadmines? |
| 02:04.15 | Neuro_Medivh | dewin: yes |
| 02:04.16 | Dewin | oh wait. Instance servers are down. |
| 02:04.28 | Amarande | instances for all servers, or only a particular one? |
| 02:04.28 | NightHawkTheSane | I bet a 46 anything could solo deadmines. |
| 02:04.33 | Neuro_Medivh | Amarande, I haven't been on Medivh in like 2 years =) |
| 02:04.46 | Amarande | btw ... eCastingBar > Quartz, by a longshot |
| 02:04.47 | Neuro_Medivh | I just keep the name cause I'm registered as that on wowi and curse |
| 02:04.51 | Neuro_Medivh | nah |
| 02:04.57 | Neuro_Medivh | Quartz is better (when it's working) |
| 02:05.05 | Amarande | quartz always had all kinds of weird glitches I could never track down |
| 02:05.32 | durcyn | quartz should be fine as of this afternoon, what's the beef? |
| 02:05.35 | Amarande | for instance reporting insanely huge and inaccurate amounts of lag for bars like the timer on a warlock portal that I'm waiting for two people to click on |
| 02:05.40 | Neuro_Medivh | Oh, did he update? |
| 02:05.44 | dokomar | ok from what i can tell everything is indicating that CLT in the eror i recieved should be denoted as a value and put into the string on line 226 so how can i get the system to understand that CLT needs to be not a nil? |
| 02:05.51 | Amarande | or the fact that whenever I make Spiritual Soup for the quest in Nagrand, the timer counts NEGATIVE time |
| 02:05.52 | Yssaril | NightHawkTheSane: check this tooltip http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=28828 (btw you cant get this mount) |
| 02:05.59 | dokomar | that's probably... a broad question... |
| 02:06.03 | Amarande | eCastingBar glitches on neither |
| 02:06.04 | durcyn | Neuro_Medivh: there was an issue with focus buff display that I corrected earlier |
| 02:06.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Yssaril: yeah, i saw that |
| 02:06.43 | Neuro_Medivh | durcyn, r7 is still the listed one for curse, it has the interrupt bug that eCB had also |
| 02:06.50 | Amarande | Yssaril: that's also a ground mount, anyway :) |
| 02:07.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Offtopic poll, vote for A or B (new PvP raiding guild name): A - <Just Wipe It>, B - <New Content> |
| 02:07.46 | Amarande | C |
| 02:07.55 | dokomar | B |
| 02:07.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Saw that coming /a mile away/ |
| 02:08.01 | ScytheBlade1 | @ C, that is |
| 02:08.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Yssaril: I actually had a script that scraped wowhead for mount spells, and generally parsed the proper speed out. Except I was doing parsing of the base html page, and wowhead wouldn't display more than 200 results. so when the number of mounts went over 200.. that idea went out the door >< |
| 02:08.25 | Amarande | Scythe: is starting a guild an art, or a science? :) |
| 02:08.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Amarande: both :P |
| 02:08.42 | Amarande | btw, by PvP raiding guild, do you mean like, one that raids SW and the like, or a raiding guild on a PvP realm? |
| 02:08.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Err |
| 02:08.48 | Neuro_Medivh | raiding on a pvp realm |
| 02:08.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Sorry |
| 02:08.53 | ScytheBlade1 | s/PvP/PvE/ |
| 02:08.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Typo |
| 02:09.06 | Yssaril | NightHawkTheSane: don't tell anyone but i scraped wowhead via copy paste :P |
| 02:09.41 | Neuro_Medivh | Well, ScytheBlade1, remember the 3 rules of naming a guild |
| 02:09.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm? |
| 02:09.54 | Amarande | I have a number of guild names in mind, but I tend not to mention them |
| 02:09.59 | Amarande | someone might steal 'em :P |
| 02:10.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Yssaril: hey, i did it via a perl script pulling down the html. :p |
| 02:10.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Amarande: want to list em' so I can consider stealing one? :P |
| 02:10.22 | ScytheBlade1 | (At least I'm honest up front, right?) |
| 02:10.27 | Amarande | but as for ones that are low enough on the consideration list that I don't mind them disappearing to others |
| 02:10.28 | Neuro_Medivh | it either needs to be 1) A single word invoking a powerful image (that is also the name of 800 other guilds), 2)Obscure Latin Phrase, or 3) Ironical 'Funny' Name |
| 02:10.35 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:10.40 | Neuro_Medivh | Oh, there's also the sometimes invoked fourth rule |
| 02:10.50 | Neuro_Medivh | the "knights of the order of the circle of the <servername> |
| 02:10.53 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:10.54 | Amarande | <Cassiline Brotherhood> <Galileo Figaro> |
| 02:11.11 | WobWork | I hope your character's name is "Magnifico" |
| 02:11.14 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:11.31 | Neuro_Medivh | those four categories sum up about 90% of guild names |
| 02:11.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah :P |
| 02:11.40 | Amarande | BTW, is it best to level to 70 solo then go about founding a guild, or found it as you level? |
| 02:11.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Those four categories suck :P |
| 02:11.43 | WobWork | I was in "Booty Bay Removals" |
| 02:12.01 | Amarande | hmm, what else can I think of ... |
| 02:12.05 | ScytheBlade1 | We'll be forming this pre-Wrath - probably |
| 02:12.16 | Neuro_Medivh | I prefer compound guild names |
| 02:12.16 | Amarande | <Gnomes Go Under Our Boots> (horde only) |
| 02:12.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Looks like we have roughly 15 people interested to raid |
| 02:12.31 | WobWork | in WAR there are a few good ones |
| 02:12.35 | elite3vil | Oh Medivh, why do you fail so hard. |
| 02:12.35 | WobWork | <Black Orc Down> |
| 02:12.44 | Neuro_Medivh | cause it's OLD |
| 02:12.49 | Yssaril | NightHawkTheSane: http://ace.pastey.net/99042 <---- list of mounts your parser classifies wrong |
| 02:13.30 | Amarande | I've also always wondered how many interested persons one needs for a regular raid to be successful |
| 02:13.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Yssaril: o_0 it classifies 579 (Red Wolf) wrong? how so? |
| 02:13.55 | elite3vil | Amarande: Now? about 12 of the 25 in the raid |
| 02:13.55 | WobWork | Need a word...It's like viral marketing, youtube etc.. "front end.. something.. displays..?" |
| 02:13.57 | NightHawkTheSane | oh wait, it doesn't recognize it as 100% speed.. hmm |
| 02:13.58 | Yssaril | NightHawkTheSane: classifies it as a slow mount |
| 02:14.17 | NightHawkTheSane | meh |
| 02:14.22 | NightHawkTheSane | im okay with that |
| 02:14.44 | NightHawkTheSane | if i feel like it ill add it in to the bypass list, but im pretty sure thats an ancient-and-no-longer-obtainable mount |
| 02:15.06 | Yssaril | NightHawkTheSane: i think so too but some might still have it |
| 02:15.09 | NightHawkTheSane | 2 of your others (frost wyrm and peep) are not-player-obtainable |
| 02:15.34 | Yssaril | good to know :) |
| 02:15.42 | Neuro_Medivh | oh lord, what a guildname... <Obama Nation> |
| 02:15.44 | NightHawkTheSane | the other three are wrath only, so ill cross that bridge when i get there. But it'd be easy enough for me to add in to my bypass array |
| 02:15.52 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl @ Neuro_Medivh |
| 02:15.54 | ScytheBlade1 | hahahahahah |
| 02:16.11 | Neuro_Medivh | I mean, it's hard to tell if they're supporters or not |
| 02:16.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah no kidding |
| 02:16.26 | Amarande | Neuro: isn't that one reportable? |
| 02:16.36 | Neuro_Medivh | why? |
| 02:16.44 | Neuro_Medivh | it's some guild on Blackhand, so I dunno |
| 02:16.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Yssaril: like i said, i dont think it's a big deal if 310s get classed as 280s.. so *shrug* |
| 02:17.07 | Amarande | BTW, is there a new 'faster mount' item at 80, or do we just go slower after 70? |
| 02:17.13 | ScytheBlade1 | nope |
| 02:17.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Same speeds |
| 02:17.22 | ScytheBlade1 | With 310% being the "I'm special" speed |
| 02:17.28 | Amarande | I mean, you know how the riding crop and carrot stop working after 70 |
| 02:17.34 | Amarande | is there some new item we're expected to use at 80 instead? |
| 02:17.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope |
| 02:17.46 | Amarande | what's the point of that, then? |
| 02:17.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Those are dead until they can impliment them as they want them to work |
| 02:17.51 | ScytheBlade1 | To kill them entirely |
| 02:17.55 | Neuro_Medivh | they want to add in some kind of permabuff |
| 02:17.56 | WobWork | how can you report that guildname? |
| 02:17.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Until they can get them to work as they want to |
| 02:18.09 | Amarande | or is it to get people to go for TK and arena if they want faster than a 280? |
| 02:18.15 | Amarande | especially, to promote arena I'd imagine? |
| 02:18.22 | ScytheBlade1 | ... no |
| 02:18.33 | ScytheBlade1 | It's to kill the items until they can get them working as they want them to |
| 02:18.42 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm doing calc, don't make me pull the post up :P |
| 02:18.45 | Amarande | I don't see what's bugged with them though :) |
| 02:18.57 | Amarande | after all, they didn't nerf crusader aura :| |
| 02:18.59 | ScytheBlade1 | They hate the trinket component |
| 02:19.06 | ScytheBlade1 | They like the enchant idea |
| 02:19.14 | Amarande | yeah, I noticed the riding enchant isn't nerfed |
| 02:22.56 | Xinhuan | mounttype is tricky with morphing mounts hehe |
| 02:24.32 | Mike-N-Go | My searches come to nil; I wish to find an addon that will prevent me from DEing items I say not to, any suggestions? |
| 02:25.28 | ScytheBlade1 | I dunno if you can, does the UI have info concerning what you're DE'ing? |
| 02:25.39 | Xinhuan | no ScytheBlade1 |
| 02:25.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Answers that nicely then |
| 02:26.02 | Xinhuan | you'll have to hook into bag clicks (which is tricky since there's so many bag addons) |
| 02:26.14 | Xinhuan | or hook into the base /use |
| 02:26.26 | AnduinLothar | hey sbo, is it time to pwn faces? |
| 02:26.27 | Xinhuan | and/or scan tooltip |
| 02:26.39 | Yssaril | NightHawkTheSane: btw no need to localize continents you can extract them from GetMapContinents() |
| 02:26.43 | ScytheBlade1 | AnduinLothar: I forgot I have calc due tomorrow and I haven't even started :( |
| 02:26.46 | Mike-N-Go | I guess I'll put that on my todo list.. |
| 02:26.51 | AnduinLothar | good times.. |
| 02:26.56 | ScytheBlade1 | AnduinLothar: but! no more raiding so I'm free in the future |
| 02:26.57 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm.. can you? |
| 02:27.02 | AnduinLothar | mmhmm |
| 02:28.14 | AnduinLothar | occers yo me that with a 3gb/s bus i can write continually between my othe 2 hd's and wow wont even be affected |
| 02:28.37 | ScytheBlade1 | AnduinLothar: well if you can deal with stop and go lag in the BGs |
| 02:28.50 | AnduinLothar | still? |
| 02:28.52 | ScytheBlade1 | AnduinLothar: poke Dhegin, he'll be my other partnet in crime |
| 02:28.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Apparently, I'm hearing this through him |
| 02:29.00 | dokomar | is there a chatframe command by chance to display time on current level, kinda maybe like this " Chatframe_DisplayCurrentLevelTime()" ?? |
| 02:29.14 | ScytheBlade1 | I gave him a heads up and he's good people to play with |
| 02:29.24 | ScytheBlade1 | *partner |
| 02:29.44 | Amarande | Scythe: you actually feel glad to be quitting raiding? |
| 02:29.48 | AnduinLothar | i dunno... not sure i accept anythign less than "Awesome" |
| 02:29.56 | AnduinLothar | ;) |
| 02:30.02 | ScytheBlade1 | I think he would qualify for that |
| 02:30.08 | AnduinLothar | good :-D |
| 02:30.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Amarande: yes, and in a month or two, I'll be a co-GM of this new raiding guild :P |
| 02:30.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Back to the grind :P |
| 02:30.38 | AnduinLothar | if by grind you mean hours of endless fun |
| 02:30.46 | AnduinLothar | and by fun i mean wiping |
| 02:30.59 | ScytheBlade1 | You speak truths |
| 02:31.56 | Amarande | heh |
| 02:32.01 | Amarande | is raiding really all it's cracked up to be? :) |
| 02:32.11 | ScytheBlade1 | When you don't suck horribly? |
| 02:32.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes |
| 02:32.13 | AnduinLothar | pain int he fucking ass |
| 02:32.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Which is the goal |
| 02:32.26 | AnduinLothar | and by pain i mean joy |
| 02:32.37 | AnduinLothar | and my fuckign ass i mean yes |
| 02:34.10 | Dewin | Anybody know offhand the way to make a spell target an item? |
| 02:34.38 | ScytheBlade1 | PickUpItem() or something |
| 02:34.41 | ScytheBlade1 | You "pick it up" |
| 02:34.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Search the API listing for that, it should pull up |
| 02:35.28 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_PickupContainerItem |
| 02:35.46 | Dewin | I also would love to know why /castsequence Create Soulstone, Minor Soulstone never works for me |
| 02:36.04 | ScytheBlade1 | No idea |
| 02:37.01 | Dewin | Sometimes I had it work for one casting, then it'd get 'stuck |
| 02:38.19 | Dewin | Oh weird, now it will work after I got rid of the space after the comma |
| 02:40.31 | dokomar | omg i think i fixed it!!! |
| 02:40.35 | Dewin | Okay... now I'm overly nitpicking but.. |
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| 02:41.35 | Dewin | /use Lesser Firestone /script PickupInventoryItem(16) /script ClearCursor() I'm guessing not, but anyway to abort the cast if it's still looking for a target afterwards (i.e. I was prompted "Would you like to replace temporary enchant X with temporary enchant Y" and hit no) ? |
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| 02:43.07 | Dewin | aha, SpellStopTargeting() |
| 02:43.12 | Dewin | ... is protected |
| 02:47.42 | dokomar | can someone understand the purpose of putting in a function that looks like this: "function LMod(lvl)" |
| 02:48.01 | dokomar | sry i meant to say help me understand the purpose, lol |
| 02:48.55 | Ackis | cladhaire my sweet are you there? :D |
| 02:51.12 | Ackis | either he's too afraid to answer or he's actually afk |
| 02:51.56 | dokomar | lol |
| 02:55.30 | WobWork | So anyone use Solaris 10? (64) |
| 02:59.37 | WobWork | ~tumbleweed |
| 02:59.37 | purl | ACTION rolls across the empty channel to the theme of The Good, The Bad & The Ugly. |
| 03:00.28 | dokomar | isnt that a programming language? |
| 03:01.34 | Amarande | no, that's an OS |
| 03:02.05 | dokomar | lol that was my first thought :P |
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| 03:04.22 | Amarande | Dammit Jim, I'm an OS, not a coding language! |
| 03:04.52 | dokomar | lol |
| 03:05.13 | dokomar | but seriously, where can i find out about this lmod function? |
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| 03:08.14 | Sixen | ~wave iriel |
| 03:08.15 | purl | Bye, iriel |
| 03:08.19 | Sixen | o noez. |
| 03:08.22 | Sixen | ~hi iriel |
| 03:08.22 | purl | Many greetings, iriel, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 03:08.25 | Sixen | =) |
| 03:08.28 | Iriel | heh |
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| 03:13.16 | dokomar | ok can someone help me break down this line of coding so i understand the whole a little better, or at least point me in the right direction? if lvl>11 and lvl<16 then q=8;end |
| 03:13.33 | Sixen | What does GCD stand for? |
| 03:13.39 | Tem | global cool down |
| 03:13.42 | Tem | ~fail Sixen |
| 03:13.43 | purl | Sixen, you Fail! |
| 03:13.49 | Sixen | :( |
| 03:13.52 | Qzot | Or "greatest common divisor". |
| 03:13.56 | Sixen | Oh yes! |
| 03:14.07 | Sixen | (8:13:36 PM) purl: Someone already said that 4 seconds ago |
| 03:14.08 | Iriel | if lvl is greater than 11, and lvl is also less than 16 (i.e. if it's 12-15, assuming it's an integer) then set q to the value 8. |
| 03:14.08 | Sixen | lol. |
| 03:14.08 | drc|away | could also mean green compact disc |
| 03:15.07 | dokomar | ok so i just need to figure out what the purpose of setting q to the different values is... |
| 03:15.45 | dokomar | GCD could also mean Green Can of Dew :P |
| 03:16.04 | Redguard | no it couldn't |
| 03:16.10 | dokomar | ty Iriel |
| 03:17.52 | Sixen | =p |
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| 03:23.06 | dokomar | hmmm... it's not in this mod at all... guess it's time to see what happens if i pull out the whole function... |
| 03:23.45 | Duck_ | heya all....im getting this error and am trying to fix it....... <string>:"ChatFrame2:OnEvent":1: attempt to call global 'ChatFrame_OnEvent' (a nil value) |
| 03:23.52 | Duck_ | any ideas |
| 03:24.06 | Qzot | oh noes! dont pull out tho hole function! |
| 03:24.29 | Redguard | Duck_ did you write the addon? |
| 03:25.00 | Duck_ | I am writing a new addon for a chat expander button |
| 03:25.27 | AnduinLothar | ok so i thought ret was a little OP... but now i've played arenas... |
| 03:25.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Entirely too OP? :P |
| 03:25.44 | AnduinLothar | WAY OP |
| 03:25.46 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 03:26.59 | AnduinLothar | it's like payback for all those years that no one wanted to pvp with me |
| 03:27.04 | Redguard | Duck_ ok, well apparently you have obscured or erased the function reference for ChatFrame_OnEvent, the error is fairly clear |
| 03:27.43 | Duck_ | kk thanx |
| 03:27.57 | Redguard | you might be trying to do an insecure hook on that function incorrectly |
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| 03:30.04 | Redguard | nerfs are already scheduled iirc |
| 03:30.16 | AnduinLothar | nothing too painful |
| 03:30.16 | NightHawkTheSane | ooh, pitchforks, can i join! |
| 03:30.26 | AnduinLothar | divine storm to physical |
| 03:30.30 | AnduinLothar | repencance to 6s |
| 03:30.39 | Redguard | those are decent changes |
| 03:30.47 | AnduinLothar | buffing some %age modifiers to make the dmg less bursty |
| 03:31.00 | Redguard | you're looking at 25-55% mitigation on divine storm |
| 03:31.12 | AnduinLothar | QQ |
| 03:31.16 | AnduinLothar | it's only 1 attack |
| 03:31.29 | Redguard | less is less |
| 03:31.45 | AnduinLothar | wont mean shit for pve. in fact our pve dmg will prolly go up |
| 03:32.09 | Redguard | not so sure about that |
| 03:32.13 | AnduinLothar | and clothies dont mitigate much anyway |
| 03:32.31 | Redguard | they actually do more than you think |
| 03:32.40 | Redguard | you'll notice once the change is made |
| 03:32.53 | AnduinLothar | never said i wouldn't notice |
| 03:33.03 | Redguard | priests can carry 4500 armor right now |
| 03:33.08 | AnduinLothar | but i have good gear. i'll still be buffed from pre 3.0 |
| 03:33.11 | Redguard | druids 4k+, rogues 4k+ |
| 03:33.21 | Redguard | warriors 11k+ with no shield |
| 03:33.33 | AnduinLothar | ya i have 11k w/o a 2h |
| 03:33.38 | AnduinLothar | w/ |
| 03:34.00 | Redguard | heh |
| 03:34.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Redguard: is that including inner fire, shadowform, sl, frost armor, etc? |
| 03:34.14 | AnduinLothar | palies were representing, i'd have friends |
| 03:34.24 | Redguard | NightHawkTheSane just inner fire |
| 03:34.24 | elite3vil | ret pallies are too easy to kill. |
| 03:34.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Redguard: *nod* so i'd imagine spriets and other clothes could do as much or better |
| 03:34.54 | Qzot | Rett palies can't read. They wouldn't know you were about to be ripped limb from limb. |
| 03:34.55 | Redguard | on the priest itself that is |
| 03:35.01 | elite3vil | *ret pally Divine Storms* *full block*, *ret pally crusader strikes* *full block* |
| 03:35.06 | Redguard | sure it's possible |
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| 03:36.00 | Footrot | Hey everyone. Could someone please point me in the direction I need to find out how I'd write Lua code to determine if flying is available? i.e. Without having to analyze the zones I'm in? |
| 03:36.07 | AnduinLothar | cant block w/o a shield |
| 03:36.12 | Redguard | Footrot there is an easy way |
| 03:36.30 | Redguard | IsFlyableArea() |
| 03:36.37 | Footrot | <3 - thank you! |
| 03:36.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Redguard: that fails in northrend, in an obnoxious way |
| 03:36.45 | Redguard | really |
| 03:36.54 | NightHawkTheSane | it does not check for CWF |
| 03:36.55 | Redguard | I have not been to northrend yet, they should fix it |
| 03:37.05 | NightHawkTheSane | it does not check to see if you're in Dalaran/Wintergrasp |
| 03:37.06 | Redguard | their fault not mine :/ |
| 03:37.17 | NightHawkTheSane | i didn't say it was your fault. :P |
| 03:37.18 | Redguard | I imagine it will get fixed later |
| 03:37.28 | Footrot | I'm thinking is that function is available, I dare say Blizz will fix it to check CWF, wouldn't they? |
| 03:37.31 | NightHawkTheSane | you'd think so. But it's been like that for all of beta. |
| 03:37.39 | NightHawkTheSane | and presumably alpha. |
| 03:37.41 | Redguard | Footrot one would hope |
| 03:37.50 | Footrot | Thanks for the help. |
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| 03:38.03 | dokomar | well pulling out the function had some very interesting and desirable effects :D so that leads me to my next question... i put the whole function group back in to save the info on it personally |
| 03:38.07 | NightHawkTheSane | i've submitted a couple /bugs and /suggestions about that, but *shrug* |
| 03:38.11 | dokomar | but how do i nil the function? |
| 03:38.27 | Redguard | funcName = nil |
| 03:38.30 | Redguard | ? |
| 03:38.55 | dokomar | so LMod(lvl = nil |
| 03:38.59 | dokomar | like that? |
| 03:39.17 | Dolby | Cairenn: monkey |
| 03:39.21 | dokomar | err... LMod(lvl) |
| 03:39.28 | Cairenn | Dolby: lol |
| 03:40.01 | NightHawkTheSane | no, just LMod = nil (assuming LMod is the function name) |
| 03:40.14 | AnduinLothar | finally some competition |
| 03:40.25 | AnduinLothar | we stomped 2 ret pallies and a druid |
| 03:41.10 | dokomar | kk just put that line below the function then or above it? |
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| 03:41.54 | Redguard | dokomar you might want to read on the order of operations |
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| 03:42.17 | Redguard | dokomar and check how variables are read and set to decide if it goes above or below* |
| 03:42.56 | Redguard | obviously it will be evaluated from top to bottom, it is not randomly executed |
| 03:43.04 | dokomar | kk |
| 03:43.21 | Redguard | but if you are setting it to nil, why define it at all? |
| 03:43.45 | Iriel | If it's local you need to define it |
| 03:43.51 | Iriel | otherwise you end up with a global |
| 03:44.29 | dokomar | wanting tp reserve the original coding. it was put in there for some reason and i wanted to see if there was any way i could go back later when i learned more about LUA and continue on with the modder's work |
| 03:44.39 | krka | dokomar: Lua is not an acronym. |
| 03:44.41 | dokomar | wanting to^ |
| 03:44.58 | dokomar | preserve^ |
| 03:45.02 | Redguard | you could easily comment it out dokomar |
| 03:45.14 | dokomar | i'll do that |
| 03:47.19 | Amarande | actually, in my case, I can say why I so often say it LUA instead of Lua |
| 03:47.30 | Amarande | I grew up with gaming in the DOS days, where file names and extensions were always capitalized |
| 03:47.40 | Amarande | and we always got used to referring to files as ALLCAPS.EXE or the like |
| 03:47.56 | Amarande | so we'd end up speaking of the COM or the EXE, not the com or the exe |
| 03:50.24 | Redguard | assumptions.. |
| 03:50.42 | Redguard | oh the beauty :) |
| 03:50.58 | Amarande | so basically, I capitalize LUA because I'm used to capitalizing file extensions, rather than as an idea that it's supposed to be an acronym |
| 03:54.24 | Redguard | I have a story that goes well with this Amarande, an old boss used to mention it |
| 03:54.32 | Redguard | "Excuses are for clients, I am not your client" |
| 03:54.49 | Redguard | :P |
| 03:54.53 | Redguard | he was a strict guy.. |
| 03:55.20 | Amarande | dang, I wish you could buy the current WoW Programming book in electronic format |
| 03:55.30 | Redguard | yea I actually searched for it as such |
| 03:55.36 | Redguard | no one has it in that format |
| 03:56.06 | Amarande | I thought it might be at RPGnow, but it doesn't seem to be |
| 03:56.13 | Amarande | although they -do- have the WoW pen and paper RPG there. |
| 03:56.24 | Shirik | *stab stab stab stab* |
| 03:56.26 | Shirik | Error: Server sent unexpected return value (405 Method Not Allowed) in response to |
| 03:56.26 | Shirik | Error: LOCK request for '/svn/se450/SE450_documents/Software%20Requirements%20Specification.doc' |
| 03:56.30 | Shirik | My IT department is so bad |
| 03:57.06 | Neuro_Medivh | hmm, I wonder if the price on primals will go down |
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| 03:58.39 | Neuro_Medivh | virtual commodities brokerage is a tricksy bizness |
| 03:59.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Neuro_Medivh: eventually, probably yes |
| 04:00.55 | Amarande | meh, I'm not sure why primal prices are so high anyway |
| 04:01.01 | Amarande | it's not like they're that hard to farm, except maybe air |
| 04:01.18 | Amarande | which primal are you trying to get on the cheap? |
| 04:01.39 | NightHawkTheSane | high demand |
| 04:01.45 | Amarande | speaking of which |
| 04:01.54 | NightHawkTheSane | plus there's a resonable limit on how many people can farm them |
| 04:01.56 | Amarande | do Motes of Air actually drop less often from the mobs that drop them than other motes do, or are the mobs just more scattered? |
| 04:02.10 | Amarande | yeah, but most people just don't bother to farm even when the farm areas are deserted |
| 04:02.25 | dokomar | hey can someone help me to understand this line? "if UnitLevel("player")==69 then mxp=mxp*1.49 ; end" |
| 04:02.53 | NightHawkTheSane | dokomar: not to be rude, but do you actually understand how to program at all? >.> |
| 04:03.30 | dokomar | lol no just trying to resolve some probs with an addon that no longer has support to it |
| 04:03.31 | End | one of my friends, who said several times that WoW was not for him, and he wasn't going to be playing anymore...well...he's thinking of resubbing :P |
| 04:03.32 | NightHawkTheSane | that's an extremely basic statement, that if read as an english sentence, can generaly explain itself |
| 04:03.47 | dokomar | wanting to get the wow programming book but dont got the money :/ |
| 04:04.00 | NightHawkTheSane | there are many, many, online resources. |
| 04:04.32 | Amarande | I'm thinking to order the book, but I'm impatient :| |
| 04:04.48 | Amarande | and I don't want to wait for shipping, nor will I be up to the local Borders anytime in the next few days |
| 04:05.16 | NightHawkTheSane | i thought about getting the book, but i hate buying books for things that i know will change over time >.> |
| 04:05.19 | Redguard | dokomar you might want to start with a more basic book |
| 04:05.21 | dokomar | borders around here sells it for 40 bucks |
| 04:05.25 | Redguard | such as basic syntax on the lua language |
| 04:05.43 | Redguard | NightHawkTheSane the only thing constant is change |
| 04:06.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Redguard: exactly, which is why i havn't bought a programming book in a while. |
| 04:06.34 | Redguard | i stopped buying them after i looked at my shelves |
| 04:06.38 | Redguard | and saw $8,000 in books |
| 04:06.45 | dokomar | ok so your right, the line when read makes a lot of sense... so i guess the question is... where do i find the calculations for leveling from lvl 79 to 80? |
| 04:06.55 | Redguard | then I figured I should cut back and start getting e-books and focus more on online media |
| 04:07.06 | Redguard | dokomar "you're" btw :) |
| 04:07.08 | WobWork | Any Solaris 10 users? =) |
| 04:07.28 | dokomar | lol rgr |
| 04:09.12 | AnduinLothar | how did the training dummy just parry me |
| 04:09.29 | Amarande | I'm not sure how many dollars I've spent on books |
| 04:09.33 | Amarande | has to be thousands though |
| 04:10.05 | Amarande | but I don't have many programming books ... mostly novels, RPG sourcebooks, occultism books, and chess books |
| 04:10.12 | Amarande | a few other things here and there like the notebooks of Da Vinci |
| 04:12.53 | Tem | AnduinLothar, it parried you because you attacked from the front |
| 04:13.00 | AnduinLothar | it's a dummy |
| 04:13.03 | AnduinLothar | it cant move |
| 04:13.34 | Redguard | you were clearly out smarted and parried |
| 04:13.39 | Tem | it has to have the same mechanics of a real mob |
| 04:13.42 | Redguard | by a non moving object |
| 04:13.50 | Tem | otherwise it's worthless as a testing dummy |
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| 04:14.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Redguard: that pretty much epitomizes paladins, doesn't it? :D |
| 04:14.39 | AnduinLothar | paladins are smart, we read librams |
| 04:14.47 | NightHawkTheSane | no, you just CARRY them. |
| 04:14.57 | AnduinLothar | >.> |
| 04:15.00 | AnduinLothar | <.< |
| 04:15.01 | NightHawkTheSane | ive never seen a paladin reading one. |
| 04:15.19 | Thrae | By that logic, Druids are perverted, as we carry around Pagan Idols. |
| 04:15.33 | AnduinLothar | well, they are |
| 04:15.42 | Thrae | And Feral Druids are all Furries. |
| 04:15.45 | AnduinLothar | and shaman worship dirt |
| 04:15.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: eh, there's nothing really wrong with any of that, though. |
| 04:16.02 | [dRaCo] | more like, wooden sticks |
| 04:16.30 | AnduinLothar | and how stupid do you have to be to get yourself killed and raised as undead... seriously |
| 04:16.32 | NightHawkTheSane | well, the totem is generally considered an abstract representation of something else, in this case the elements. |
| 04:16.43 | NightHawkTheSane | also: draenei totems are metal and shiny |
| 04:16.59 | [dRaCo] | draenei are friggin space demons |
| 04:17.11 | [dRaCo] | they don't know anything about shamanism :> |
| 04:17.14 | AnduinLothar | and books are an abstract representation of knowledgability so diaf |
| 04:17.37 | AnduinLothar | of i'll drag the mages down with me |
| 04:17.40 | AnduinLothar | or* |
| 04:17.42 | NightHawkTheSane | see, abstract representation, proving that paladins don't actually read them, thus the original point stands :D |
| 04:17.47 | [dRaCo] | that's fine with me |
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| 04:18.04 | AnduinLothar | no other class reads books, you're all stupid |
| 04:18.19 | NightHawkTheSane | sure, but we're not the ones being parried by inanimate objects |
| 04:18.27 | AnduinLothar | the mages jsut pretend to read books and just cast spells to make it look like they're reading |
| 04:18.29 | Neuro_Medivh | draenei aren't space demons, thank you very much... we're space GOATS |
| 04:18.43 | Xuerian | ^ |
| 04:18.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Neuro_Medivh: no, those are talbuks |
| 04:19.01 | AnduinLothar | and warlocks are obsesed with death... emo kids, all of them |
| 04:19.04 | Neuro_Medivh | SPAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCEEEEEEEEEEEE GGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 04:19.06 | NightHawkTheSane | unless.. thats IT.. the draenei is a moderately evolved talbuk! |
| 04:19.10 | Xuerian | AnduinLothar: But I LIKE being alive |
| 04:19.15 | Xuerian | :'( |
| 04:19.17 | Neuro_Medivh | Space Goats, Coast to Coast |
| 04:19.37 | AnduinLothar | and warriors? dumb as rocks |
| 04:20.01 | AnduinLothar | rogues are high school dropouts |
| 04:20.04 | Neuro_Medivh | actually, it requires a lot of intellect to remember insults in 37 different languages |
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| 04:20.34 | AnduinLothar | and priests....ok maybe they read |
| 04:20.41 | AnduinLothar | prayer books |
| 04:20.44 | Xuerian | Priests are blonde. |
| 04:21.02 | Xuerian | Now SHADOW priests, they're emo. |
| 04:21.03 | Neuro_Medivh | Say you're tanking a Blackrock Orc. You have to be able to insult their mother in Orcish, AND remember if saying their mother looks like kodo shit is actually an insult or not |
| 04:21.03 | AnduinLothar | yeah but even blonds read romance novels |
| 04:21.20 | Xuerian | Neuro_Medivh: Rofl |
| 04:21.28 | Neuro_Medivh | Shadow Priests are goth emos |
| 04:21.37 | Neuro_Medivh | "Oh, life is so black, I cannot heal anything" |
| 04:21.42 | AnduinLothar | they're pals with the locks |
| 04:21.58 | Xuerian | That's true, we are buddies >.> |
| 04:22.00 | Neuro_Medivh | locks are sociopaths |
| 04:22.14 | Xuerian | That's true too :D |
| 04:22.27 | Neuro_Medivh | I mean, they DRAIN SOULS and use them to feed DEMONS |
| 04:22.32 | Neuro_Medivh | not nice guys |
| 04:22.40 | Xuerian | Feed them to demons? Bah, we eat them. |
| 04:22.42 | Xuerian | Like boogers. |
| 04:22.43 | AnduinLothar | only reason you don't get parried by innanimate objects is cause you don't know how to wield a sword |
| 04:22.49 | Xuerian | Gooey, chewy, green boogers |
| 04:23.06 | AnduinLothar | stick with blunt objects lol |
| 04:23.25 | Amarande | I thought soul shards were crunchy and pink |
| 04:23.28 | Xuerian | Who crawled up your armor and died |
| 04:23.30 | Neuro_Medivh | and Paladins? They're just warriors who don't like the ladies, so they need an excuse to be 'chaste' |
| 04:23.30 | AnduinLothar | and a warlock dagger is't long enough to be parried |
| 04:23.34 | Xuerian | Amarande: But healthstones aren't |
| 04:24.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: he got parried by a training dummy, and coming to grips with the fact that he got outmaneuvered by an inanimate object. |
| 04:24.07 | AnduinLothar | who ever said paladins were chaste. where do you think baby paladins come from? |
| 04:24.26 | Neuro_Medivh | "I'm sorry, miss, but Brother Andy and I must go pray in the chapel. No, I'm sorry, no women are allowed in there" |
| 04:24.27 | Qzot | AnduinLothar: Non-paladins. |
| 04:24.31 | AnduinLothar | it's not liek we go around converting warriors |
| 04:24.33 | Xuerian | Last I heard, baby paladins were a seriously bad idea. Ashbringer and whatnot |
| 04:24.34 | [dRaCo] | every once in a while, when a paladin bubbles... |
| 04:25.26 | AnduinLothar | you'd be fucked up too if your dad was a legend |
| 04:25.40 | Xuerian | No, I'd have a better computer |
| 04:25.41 | Neuro_Medivh | yes, but ALL of their sons go bad |
| 04:25.51 | Neuro_Medivh | Mograine, Fordring, Arthas |
| 04:25.58 | Neuro_Medivh | all paladin sons, ALL BAD |
| 04:25.58 | AnduinLothar | that's because they're all legends! |
| 04:26.14 | Neuro_Medivh | ffs, so they have daddy issues, that's no reason to slaughter people |
| 04:26.24 | Neuro_Medivh | "Papa! Why wouldn't you just love me papa!" |
| 04:27.14 | AnduinLothar | well they have to give the mages someone to sex. Male mages are impotent. |
| 04:27.15 | Xuerian | "You love him, but not me!" |
| 04:27.47 | Neuro_Medivh | I mean, if I was a paladin and had a kid, I'd fight hard not to strangle his evil ass |
| 04:27.47 | Neuro_Medivh | even King Arthur got jacked that way |
| 04:27.56 | Neuro_Medivh | it's like that Evil Overlord list, only for WoW |
| 04:28.27 | Amarande | hmm |
| 04:28.37 | Amarande | is hte grey character class symbol you can't pick in the creation screen for DKs? |
| 04:28.38 | NightHawkTheSane | wee, only northrend critters left to /love |
| 04:28.45 | Neuro_Medivh | "If I am a mighty paladin of light, and I have a son, I'll ship him off to be a farmer or something" |
| 04:28.56 | Xuerian | Amarande: C-C-COMBO BREAKER |
| 04:28.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: yes |
| 04:29.01 | Amarande | it's sort of like an ax or something, and you can't click it |
| 04:29.10 | Neuro_Medivh | yeah, that's DK |
| 04:29.22 | AnduinLothar | whatever you do, dont make pally paladins study magery |
| 04:29.35 | AnduinLothar | cause arcane and holy magic = boom |
| 04:29.36 | Neuro_Medivh | So, when Jaina, Thrall, and the Lich King meet on the battlefield, do you think it gets awkward? |
| 04:29.39 | NightHawkTheSane | "pally paladins" |
| 04:29.45 | NightHawkTheSane | looks like you dont study much as is. ;) |
| 04:30.01 | AnduinLothar | i gradimacated |
| 04:30.15 | AnduinLothar | dont need no more study |
| 04:30.47 | AnduinLothar | I KIEL YOU! |
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| 04:31.10 | Neuro_Medivh | Lich King: "Oh, hey Jaina... um, you're looking good... this the new guy?" Jaina: "He's just a friend, stop being weird" Thrall: "Just a friend? Wtf, bitch?" |
| 04:31.17 | Yssaril | NightHawkTheSane: btw thanks again for letting me adapt your tooltip scanning code :) works like a charm |
| 04:31.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Yssaril: np :) |
| 04:31.26 | Atriace | Shirik: ping |
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| 04:35.02 | Amarande | hmm, now to figure out a mage build |
| 04:36.06 | Tem | is it possible to buy a game card online? |
| 04:36.20 | Atriace | ah, pity.... |
| 04:36.37 | NightHawkTheSane | anyone happen to know where "GameMenuButtonTemplate" is defined? >.> |
| 04:36.50 | Atriace | Tem: like this? http://www.gametimezone.com/games/wow.php |
| 04:36.56 | Tem | (and get the number online) |
| 04:38.19 | Atriace | NightHawk: It's in UIPanelTemplates.xml (line 567) |
| 04:38.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Atriace: thank you :) |
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| 04:40.31 | Tem | Atriace, got a site that looks little less sketchy? |
| 04:40.57 | Atriace | Tem: I don't know. I've never bought one. It was the first google result I pulled. :p |
| 04:41.47 | NightHawkTheSane | okay, can someone explain this to me? The 'CompanionSummonButton' (the button that says "Mount", in your mount window) has an OnClick script that just calls CompanionSummonButton_OnClick(). If I'm in a shapeshift form, and call that method manually, I get "You are in shapeshift form.", If i click the button (even using /click) It works fine. |
| 04:42.29 | NightHawkTheSane | As far as I can tell, there's no secure stuff involved.. am i wrong, or is there something else going on that i'm missing |
| 04:43.35 | Iriel | You can't cancel forms insecurely |
| 04:43.39 | Iriel | that's probably your issue |
| 04:44.39 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm |
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| 04:47.12 | NightHawkTheSane | this secure stuff gives me a headache >< |
| 04:47.28 | Duck_ | k now i got this error grrrr....this is my first attempt at an addon so please be gentle :-)........ChatXpander\ChatXpander.lua:1: attempt to index global 'ChatXpander' (a nil value) |
| 04:55.48 | Amarande | hmm |
| 04:55.51 | Amarande | how's this look for a mage? |
| 04:55.52 | Amarande | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=of0VfhMIzxhuMtZcxb0oZ0h |
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| 04:56.58 | Dreagar | Hey, whats the nubmer for NOrthrend? 4? |
| 04:57.03 | Dreagar | number even |
| 04:57.11 | Tem | number? |
| 04:57.19 | NightHawkTheSane | 867-5309. *nod* |
| 04:57.25 | Tem | oh continent probably |
| 04:57.45 | Dreagar | the contient number. kalimdor is 2 ek is 1. etc |
| 04:57.52 | WobWork | NightHawkTheSane: Isn't that Jenny? |
| 04:57.58 | Dreagar | i'm assuming 4 but i don't wanna assume lol |
| 04:58.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Dreagar: yes it is |
| 04:58.39 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: well, she lives in northrend, right?? |
| 04:58.51 | WobWork | Not sure, I hear she gets around |
| 04:59.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Dreagar: you could also check the returns from GetMapContinents() to verify this |
| 05:01.36 | Dreagar | would it work without WOTLK installed? |
| 05:01.59 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, you can actually SEE northrned on your world map, you know. |
| 05:02.27 | Dreagar | really? woah, shows how much i am payin attention |
| 05:03.38 | NightHawkTheSane | hm. i think it's more or less impossible for me to integrate flight form into StableBoy. |
| 05:05.40 | Redguard | Iriel in the chat lua, do you know of any new way to access argN from :AddMessage |
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| 05:05.59 | Redguard | before you were able to use globals, and now I'm still using globals since they're still being set, but I don't see another window |
| 05:06.12 | Redguard | the varargs are passed to the parent function, but dropped when :AddMessage is called |
| 05:06.25 | Iriel | Redguard: No, it's going to be a tricky problem for me to solve when they go away |
| 05:06.41 | Iriel | the trick will be to capture every event and figure out the association afterwards |
| 05:06.53 | Iriel | i.e. secure hook the OnEvent handler |
| 05:07.11 | Iriel | then buffer the AddMessage's and correlate when the hook fires |
| 05:07.17 | Redguard | yea it's worrying me right now |
| 05:07.27 | Arrowmaster | the trick will be to convince the pirate to just add a damn function that returns the varargs |
| 05:07.31 | Redguard | :/ |
| 05:07.34 | Redguard | that's so much extra work |
| 05:08.01 | Tem | after you activate an account, how long it take for the auth server to let you log in? |
| 05:08.10 | Iriel | My request for 'GetCurrentEvent' was denied so it's the best we'll get |
| 05:08.10 | Redguard | think we could convince them to pass the varargs to AddMessage Iriel, or are there more functions that associate with this same issue? |
| 05:08.18 | Redguard | ouch |
| 05:08.38 | Redguard | tem, usually instant? |
| 05:08.53 | Arrowmaster | Redguard: no |
| 05:09.02 | Arrowmaster | passing the args to every function wont happen |
| 05:09.10 | Tem | no :( |
| 05:09.11 | Iriel | I doubt they'd go that far, but possibly we could talk them into a hookable filter function or something, the question will be whether there's a really compelling use for it |
| 05:09.30 | Tem | There is the existing chat filters |
| 05:09.34 | Tem | s/is/are/ |
| 05:09.44 | Redguard | tem I find that filter semi useless for my needs |
| 05:09.44 | Arrowmaster | should just be a single function that returns self, event, arg1, arg2, ... |
| 05:10.05 | Tem | I requested a long while back to have the filters pass the event args |
| 05:10.11 | Tem | (and the event) |
| 05:10.31 | Redguard | Iriel: I haven't dwelled much on this, but with hooksecurefunc is there a way to get the return variables as well |
| 05:10.47 | Redguard | maybe read the stack of the hooked function to obtain the arguments returned |
| 05:11.00 | Redguard | I don't know that much about lua yet, so I can't comment if this is possible at the current time |
| 05:11.26 | Redguard | although knowing return variables while using hooksecurefunc could be useful |
| 05:11.40 | Iriel | Redguard: No, there isn't. |
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| 05:11.45 | Tem | There we go |
| 05:12.11 | Iriel | Redguard: it's also extremely unintuitive to build into hooksecurefunc |
| 05:12.30 | Iriel | Redguard: due to the ugliness of variable numbers of parameters AND variable numbers of returns |
| 05:12.38 | Shirik | can you hook hooksecurefunc? |
| 05:12.44 | Shirik | random question, sorry |
| 05:12.50 | Tem | you could |
| 05:12.56 | Iriel | Shirik: You can, yes, doesn't buy you much |
| 05:13.19 | Iriel | Redguard: You could always unregister most of the chat frames events and register your own handler up front |
| 05:13.24 | Shirik | I wouldn't expect it to |
| 05:13.25 | Redguard | hehe |
| 05:13.28 | Shirik | I just think of very strange things |
| 05:13.31 | Iriel | Redguard: Leave only those that need to be secure on the old one |
| 05:13.39 | Redguard | Iriel yea, but when you are hooking secure functions that isn't much of an option |
| 05:13.58 | Iriel | Shirik: All hooksecurefunc does is create a special closure instance and put it in place of the original |
| 05:14.39 | Shirik | Also, can someone please go to invisionboard.com and tell me if it's up? |
| 05:14.42 | Iriel | I'm not sure many (any?) of those have to be secure tho, macro handling is all that I can come up with |
| 05:15.56 | Nechckn | seems fine, Shirik |
| 05:16.37 | Redguard | if you actually make a bandaid for the global argN before I get around to it, please do let me know Iriel |
| 05:16.45 | Redguard | sooner or later I'll need to fix that in my addon |
| 05:17.14 | Iriel | The other trick is to register all the events to one of your own frames |
| 05:17.20 | Iriel | Then unregister and re-register the blizz chat frame |
| 05:17.32 | Iriel | Unless something changed i'm pretty sure events are dispatched in order of registration |
| 05:18.30 | Shirik | Requirements: * MySQL 4.0+ or MySQL 5.0+ |
| 05:18.37 | Shirik | Doesn't MySQL 4.0+ imply 5.0+? |
| 05:18.50 | MentalPower|ZZzz | Shirik: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/invisionboard.com (its up) |
| 05:19.10 | Shirik | MentalPower|ZZzz: Yeah apparently invisionpower.com works for me but not invisionboard.com |
| 05:19.11 | Redguard | Shirik in that case they should put 4.x or 5.x |
| 05:19.12 | Shirik | it's strange |
| 05:19.13 | End | well, they probably mean 4.x or 5.x |
| 05:19.13 | Redguard | imo |
| 05:19.31 | End | and, 6.0? who knows what 6.0 will be like :P |
| 05:19.36 | Shirik | Win: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/downforeveryoneorjustme.com |
| 05:20.02 | MentalPower|ZZzz | lol! |
| 05:20.13 | MentalPower|ZZzz | never actually tried that before |
| 05:25.32 | Sixen | Anyone feel like doing me a huge, quick favor? |
| 05:28.28 | NightHawkTheSane | maaaaybe |
| 05:28.32 | NightHawkTheSane | sup? |
| 05:31.21 | NightHawkTheSane | or maybe red dwarf. |
| 05:31.25 | Sixen | Hrm. |
| 05:31.43 | Sixen | I need you to create a horde alt on Garithos to sign a charter real quick? Trying to make one with some IRL friends. |
| 05:31.50 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, np |
| 05:32.16 | NightHawkTheSane | what race? |
| 05:32.16 | Sixen | <3333 |
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| 05:32.22 | Sixen | Orc/Trll |
| 05:33.09 | NightHawkTheSane | just logged in |
| 05:33.10 | Sixen | ./w sixen when you ge ton, =). |
| 05:36.36 | Sixen | ~hug NightHawkTheSane |
| 05:36.37 | purl | ACTION hugs NightHawkTheSane |
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| 05:57.49 | Amarande | am I ever glad for the Sunstrider Book Satchel on new blood elf alts ... heh |
| 05:58.03 | Amarande | speaking of which, when is that glitch with ArkInventory going to get fixed |
| 05:58.20 | Amarande | it's existed for as long as I've used ArkInventory, which is ... the better part of a year now I think |
| 05:58.54 | Amarande | Glitch: Try to equip a BoE bag to a slot that does not already have a bag in it, you just get a 'click' sound effect and nothing |
| 05:59.11 | Amarande | it only seems to allow you to equip a BoE bag to a slot if there's already a bag in that slot (hence why the 4-slot bag is useful) |
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| 07:04.32 | End | as I deleted this directory, I told myself, there's probably something in there I don't want to lose |
| 07:04.40 | End | it's a good thing I keep backups |
| 07:05.58 | Xuerian | ~seen foxlit |
| 07:06.00 | purl | foxlit <n=foxlit@0x573e6bae.alb2nxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 8h 32m 19s ago, saying: '*5'. |
| 07:06.22 | Xuerian | Foxlit really needs to add a simple alpha fade to the opie animation.. it's like six lines of code >_> |
| 07:09.59 | Mike-N-Go | What is it called when one adds to the ingame frame Interface -> AddOns their addon's settings or whatever? |
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| 07:15.04 | Xuerian | Built-in settings? Blizzard options? |
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| 07:16.07 | Neuro_Medivh | Mike-N-Go, in 2.4 they added API functions to allow that stuff.. it's documented on the UI forum I think |
| 07:16.43 | Mike-N-Go | I wish to know what it is called, so I can search for it. |
| 07:16.57 | Mike-N-Go | Xuerian: Yah, blizzard options. |
| 07:17.30 | Mike-N-Go | The frame that blizzard allows devs to use and put a GUI in. |
| 07:17.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Interface Options is teh general term used |
| 07:17.51 | NightHawkTheSane | InterfaceOptionsFrame is the actual frame name, i believe |
| 07:18.54 | Mike-N-Go | http://www.wowwiki.com/Using_the_Interface_Options_Addons_panel is what I am looking for, thanks. |
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| 07:22.12 | Neuro_Medivh | sigh.. world server goes down, and I lose 275 points of weapon skill gain |
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| 07:24.53 | zenzio | Neuro_Medivh: doh >.< How long did it take you to gain those points? |
| 07:29.13 | Corrodias | eh... quick, is there any benefit to using Vista other than A) "it looks cool" and B) dx10? |
| 07:30.02 | Corrodias | having been through the pain of installing it and just starting to experience the OpenAL situation, i'm eyeing that "emergency exit to xp" door |
| 07:30.40 | zenzio | personally I don't see anything worth going Vista over, but it's a matter of opinion |
| 07:30.58 | Corrodias | well, it should be pretty objective to be able to state benefits of the OS |
| 07:31.04 | Corrodias | should there be any |
| 07:31.18 | Dewin | Anybody here use ArkInventory? |
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| 07:48.34 | Redguard | Dewin sometimes it helps to ask direct questions instead of precursors |
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| 07:51.59 | Xuerian | Corrodias: Honestly... Vista ran quite nicely for me. After a few bootups it was getting rather snappy |
| 07:52.15 | Xuerian | Not to mention DX11 is coming soon with *actual* improvements, with no new hardware requirement |
| 07:53.24 | Xuerian | And having figured out that my random reboots were actually my motherboard needing a updated bios, I might go back to it here soon |
| 07:54.29 | Corrodias | Xuerian: i am still tempted to stick with it, because i -do- want to use dx10 |
| 07:54.32 | Redguard | xp works pretty nice :P |
| 07:54.42 | Xuerian | Redguard: I agree, sitting here on SP3 everything works fine for me |
| 07:54.47 | Corrodias | emosigh, i can probably learn how to use that ALchemy effectively |
| 07:55.08 | Xuerian | But.... Vista is showing promising options. |
| 07:56.02 | Corrodias | it doesn't help that i'm not sure how to tell whether a game is using openal, alchemy, or software mode |
| 07:56.22 | Xuerian | Ironically enough sound was the same critical issue I ran into on linux |
| 07:56.25 | Corrodias | during any given session, i mean |
| 07:56.46 | Xuerian | I would've thought it was going to be video, but that was fairly easy after raeping my xorg.conf and drivers |
| 07:58.56 | Corrodias | if the game gives me the option of EAX, and i did -not- set up dsound.dll for it, i guess i can assume it's using openal |
| 08:03.24 | Corrodias | but then there's stuff like half-life 2 episode 2. as far as i can tell, it gives no indication of what it's doing. :| |
| 08:04.30 | Xuerian | Does it come down to non-functionality, or do you have a good sound system to where you hear the differences? |
| 08:04.55 | Xuerian | (I know I'd miss my KX drivers SB16, mmm, custom DSP editing...) |
| 08:05.05 | Corrodias | i... what? i'd just like EAX to work is mostly it |
| 08:05.12 | Corrodias | functionality, i guess |
| 08:05.36 | Xuerian | Ahhh.. |
| 08:05.43 | Xuerian | Not really a vista thing then? |
| 08:05.46 | Corrodias | it's very easy to hear when EAX is in use, so i guess it's also about hearing the difference |
| 08:06.13 | Corrodias | very much a vista thing. are you not aware? microsoft removed hardware audio processing support from directsound |
| 08:06.27 | Xuerian | No, wasn't aware |
| 08:06.38 | Xuerian | That's somewhat stupid. |
| 08:06.58 | Corrodias | starting with vista, all audio goes through software processing ONLY. that is, unless you get some OpenAL drivers like Creative installs with the X-Fi cards |
| 08:07.26 | Xuerian | Ahh, vista's whole trusted-platform deal? |
| 08:07.30 | Corrodias | indeed |
| 08:07.30 | NightHawkTheSane | hm. note to self. in FFT, if you throw a stone, it will hit the first person in the direct line to your target. even if thats your ally. >< |
| 08:07.40 | Corrodias | openal is replacing directsound of course, but older games that don't support it are shoehorned in with something creative produced call "alchemy", which just copies in a dsound.dll that wraps the calls into openal ones |
| 08:07.48 | Corrodias | but it's ... not exactly easy to tell if and when it's working |
| 08:08.00 | Xuerian | Corrodias: Why not just wrap everything? :P |
| 08:08.21 | Corrodias | what else would you wrap besides directsound calls? wrap openal calls in themselves? >_> |
| 08:08.32 | Xuerian | What, don't you like hugs? XD |
| 08:08.59 | Xuerian | Seriously though, trial and error. Un... alchem..y...d... vs alchemy...d... >_> |
| 08:09.06 | Corrodias | it appears to be completely impossible to use alchemy on half-life 2 on vista x64. however, for most things, it appears to function passably |
| 08:10.02 | Corrodias | i just have no idea how to tell whether HL2:ep2 is using it. even on my 2k3 machine here, i can't tell whether it bothers with any hardware audio processing. |
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| 08:10.25 | Corrodias | the options don't include anything revealing |
| 08:10.28 | Xuerian | And the quality is lower/isn't what you want? You've checked to see if valve has said anything about it? |
| 08:11.19 | Corrodias | well, not being able to use EAX is a downside. i reiterate, however, that i don't know how to tell whether hl2:ep2 (for this general example) uses EAX in the first place |
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| 08:14.21 | Corrodias | and now i am learning information from the web |
| 08:16.03 | Xuerian | Corrodias: http://connect.creativelabs.com/alchemy/Lists/Games/AllItems.aspx |
| 08:16.13 | Xuerian | ctrl-f: half-life |
| 08:16.22 | Xuerian | f3 f3 f3 f3.. etc |
| 08:16.22 | Corrodias | ah! thanks |
| 08:18.14 | Xuerian | ugh, how much to the x-fi's go for |
| 08:18.28 | Corrodias | off the top of my head, i think it's something like $80 |
| 08:18.35 | Xuerian | blark |
| 08:18.44 | Xuerian | Do they have the ability to modify the DSP? |
| 08:18.59 | Xuerian | (Enable/chain different effects, route inputs/outputs, etc) |
| 08:19.05 | Corrodias | the cheaper ones, anyway |
| 08:19.10 | Corrodias | as for your question, i do not know |
| 08:19.43 | Xuerian | for some reason I kinda doubt it... Sad, seeing as a open source project did it for em on their older cards. |
| 08:20.18 | Xuerian | Muting other sound channels while someone is talking in vent is awesome -_-; |
| 08:21.42 | Corrodias | sounds nifty |
| 08:22.12 | Xuerian | Also lets you route sound out through the mic (Compressed when you're talking, of course), so you can dj >.> |
| 08:23.21 | Corrodias | 'ni |
| 08:34.36 | Redguard | Xuerian what lets you mute other channels when vent is active? |
| 08:37.50 | Xuerian | Redguard: I use the KX drivers for my old Soundblaster card, it provides a dsp editor that you can either directly code in, or "Wire" the stream from inputs to outputs. I apply a compressor to the output based on the mic (Which I have a filter for, to cut out noise), so that it quiets everything else when people talk on voip apps (Set to a different output in their options) |
| 08:38.44 | Xuerian | It also supports ViSti (I think?) plugins and such |
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| 08:52.22 | Redguard | I don't know what the question is, but the answer is no |
| 08:52.57 | Redguard | Xuerian neat |
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| 09:04.04 | Wobin | http://tightlyknit.org/Rollin.m4a |
| 09:09.42 | Wobin | also.. http://community.livejournal.com/metaquotes/6888184.html?nc=75&style=mine |
| 09:09.54 | Wobin | GenX or iGen =P |
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| 10:16.06 | zenzelezz | "holy shit you can mount in BB. this changes EVERYTHING" |
| 10:16.18 | Industrial | haha |
| 10:16.19 | Industrial | indeed |
| 10:21.04 | zenzelezz | http://www.gucomics.com/comic/ |
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| 10:55.38 | Elkano | hmm, are wowi + wowhead down? |
| 10:56.05 | zenzelezz | loads for me |
| 11:08.37 | Cairenn | fine for me |
| 11:09.35 | Elkano | hmmm |
| 11:10.42 | Elkano | 67.228.49.65 is the correct IP for wowi, isn't it? |
| 11:12.37 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 11:13.57 | Cairenn | well, given that someone just uploaded a mod and I just approved it, so ... |
| 11:14.14 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 11:14.16 | Fisker- | i hate you |
| 11:14.55 | Fisker- | especially jnwhiteh |
| 11:15.01 | Fisker- | alliance is ganking me :( |
| 11:15.01 | jnwhiteh | k k k |
| 11:15.09 | jnwhiteh | you're horde, you deserve it |
| 11:15.16 | Fisker- | i'm alliance! |
| 11:15.23 | jnwhiteh | especially considering how nasty you guys are on our server |
| 11:15.24 | Fisker- | I'm a blood elf, can't you see? |
| 11:15.24 | jnwhiteh | O.o |
| 11:15.37 | Fisker- | yeah we get down and dirty? |
| 11:15.38 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 11:15.40 | jnwhiteh | OH YES MY MISTAKE SIR |
| 11:16.08 | Fisker- | sounds like fun in the sun |
| 11:16.35 | zenzelezz | Cairenn: you uploaded a mod? I didn't know you coded |
| 11:16.49 | Fisker- | how do i read text? |
| 11:17.34 | Fisker- | giev old ironjaw jnwhiteh :( |
| 11:17.40 | Fisker- | haha |
| 11:17.44 | Fisker- | another ganker bites the dust |
| 11:17.53 | Fisker- | fishing at the lava = win |
| 11:19.42 | Fisker- | and again |
| 11:19.44 | Elkano | hmmm still strange :/ |
| 11:24.12 | Elkano | other pages work fine :/ no clue |
| 11:24.37 | Cairenn | shhh, no one tell him, it's actually that we've IP banned him |
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| 11:33.31 | zenzelezz | used Every Man for Himself when sheeped by Ikiss => fell through world |
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| 11:38.07 | Administrator | heya, is it possible to create a macro that checks range? I wanted to create a macro that uses lacerate if in range else it uses faerie fire (feral) |
| 11:48.57 | Xinhuan | no |
| 11:49.12 | tonidaesquina | what about checking if it's usable ? |
| 11:49.16 | Xinhuan | no |
| 11:49.25 | Xinhuan | can't use "smart decisions" in macros |
| 11:49.49 | Xinhuan | i.e can't change for validity of targets, cooldowns, existance of buffs/debuffs, etc |
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| 12:12.56 | Elkano | hmm, where can I optain the pattern for the Onyxia Scale Cloak? |
| 12:34.35 | Wobin | Elkano: from onyxia? |
| 12:35.25 | Wobin | turn in her head |
| 12:35.59 | Wobin | then talk to the bloke you turn her head into |
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| 12:45.08 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker- ! You leave the source of my morning hugs alone! |
| 12:45.35 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, awesome. Good morning, Cairenn. *big hugs* |
| 12:45.41 | Fisker- | i need gaems |
| 12:45.45 | Cairenn | :) |
| 12:45.59 | Cairenn | morning Peppy |
| 12:46.02 | Fisker- | and i will give you back your source of morning hugs |
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| 12:46.50 | Lopeppeppy | Oh... Wow is down for maintenance, isn't it? Sorry Fisker- |
| 12:48.29 | jnwhiteh | Fisker-: FAIL |
| 12:49.33 | Lopeppeppy | Get a hobbies. |
| 12:50.49 | Fisker- | i'm not US |
| 12:50.51 | Fisker- | wow is up |
| 12:51.01 | Lopeppeppy | So what game are you needing? |
| 12:51.11 | Fisker- | good ones |
| 12:52.41 | Lopeppeppy | Bah. www.kongregate.com Go get addicted to something. |
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| 13:06.29 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Jelly-dear. |
| 13:07.08 | Jelly-School | Why do people feel the need to douche themselves with cologne? |
| 13:07.48 | Lopeppeppy | ... ouch. That's all I can say. Ouch. Alcohol on sensitive spots? Not so hot an idea. |
| 13:08.27 | Jelly-School | Well, I already feel like shit and this dude next to me came in, smelling like he poured the whole bottle on himself. Not good for a headache. |
| 13:09.34 | Lopeppeppy | Oh! I bet he was covering up the whole hangover alcohol coming out of his pores thing! |
| 13:09.40 | Lopeppeppy | One alcohol covering another, as it were. |
| 13:10.05 | Jelly-School | I hope there's a good reason for it. |
| 13:10.58 | Jelly-School | ...and I also hope that this "DO NOT CHEAT" screen keeps him from being able to read me talk about him -- he's bigger than me. rofl |
| 13:11.56 | Lopeppeppy | *snark* |
| 13:12.42 | Jelly-School | How are you this morning? |
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| 13:14.56 | Jelly-School | ~hug ckknight |
| 13:14.56 | purl | ACTION jumps into ckknight's lap and huggles and *hugs* ckknight |
| 13:15.10 | ckknight | you sure hug a lot |
| 13:15.22 | Jelly-School | There isn't a ~highfive |
| 13:15.41 | Jelly-School | ~wave ckknight |
| 13:15.42 | purl | Bye, ckknight |
| 13:15.48 | Jelly-School | Yeah ... |
| 13:15.56 | ckknight | okay then |
| 13:16.03 | Jelly-School | !fistbump ckknight |
| 13:16.08 | Jelly-School | ~fistbump ckknight |
| 13:16.15 | Jelly-School | SO... |
| 13:16.19 | Lopeppeppy | I'm havin' an okay day, Jelly-dear. |
| 13:16.19 | Jelly-School | ~hug ckknight |
| 13:16.19 | purl | ACTION hugs ckknight |
| 13:16.20 | Jelly-School | :P |
| 13:16.31 | ckknight | and we're done |
| 13:16.37 | Lopeppeppy | But you need to teach purl how to fistbump, that's all. She's a girl, this is not native to her. |
| 13:16.58 | Jelly-School | I don't teach robots! I don't want them taking over the world. |
| 13:17.25 | Lopeppeppy | She already rules in here, why not the world? |
| 13:17.36 | Jelly-School | See the problem? |
| 13:17.55 | Lopeppeppy | Nope! |
| 13:18.49 | J-School | my computer woke my roomie up at home because it was beeping (jelly pings me, obviously) |
| 13:19.55 | Lopeppeppy | Ooops. *hides her head in shame for using the J word so liberally* |
| 13:20.05 | J-School | Me typing does it too |
| 13:20.21 | Fisker- | i am having so much hate |
| 13:20.24 | J-School | So my spam up there talking to ckk didn't help |
| 13:20.29 | Fisker- | i must destroy someone |
| 13:21.13 | Lopeppeppy | I told you where to go, Fisker- Did you? |
| 13:21.17 | J-School | Can you start with ... the world? |
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| 13:22.46 | Castigo | hey guys |
| 13:22.57 | Castigo | mikk mylove, are you around? ^^ |
| 13:24.22 | Castigo | ouch |
| 13:24.25 | Castigo | nevca? |
| 13:24.43 | J-School | ~fistbumps Peppy |
| 13:25.03 | Lopeppeppy | ~hipchecks J-mon |
| 13:25.11 | J-School | She did it in private :( |
| 13:25.23 | J-School | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:25.32 | Lopeppeppy | Grrrls unite. |
| 13:26.02 | Fisker- | if i don't get old ironjaw within a few minutes i'll destroy the world :( |
| 13:26.42 | Ose | can anyone tell me why http://wowuidev.pastey.net/99099 doesn't work? |
| 13:27.01 | Fisker- | i hate you |
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| 13:27.23 | Castigo | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/99098 <-- can anyone tell me the mistake in that (value passed is a db.profile.myval) |
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| 13:27.27 | Fisker- | oh and you only need flyable |
| 13:28.09 | Fisker- | /cast [flyable] Albino Drake; Great Brewfest Kodo |
| 13:28.11 | Fisker- | like that |
| 13:28.26 | J-School | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:29.15 | Fisker- | /yourmom |
| 13:29.21 | Fisker- | also |
| 13:29.26 | Fisker- | /it'snotaboutlooksbutepeen |
| 13:29.27 | Ose | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:30.15 | J-School | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:30.19 | Fisker- | l2replace/castwith/castrandom |
| 13:30.40 | J-School | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:30.52 | Footrot | Hi all. If I wanted to create a slash command to switch a druid into SFF, would I be able to do that without messing around with on-the-fly modified macros? As in, I want to cause this to happen from within Lua code (not a /click macro). |
| 13:31.28 | Fisker- | /noironjawdropfromironforgei'mlosingmymind:( |
| 13:31.42 | J-School | ~hug fisker- |
| 13:31.43 | purl | ACTION jumps into fisker-'s lap and huggles and *hugs* fisker- |
| 13:31.43 | Fisker- | Just got the 1000 fish achievement |
| 13:31.52 | Fisker- | and i started around ~150 fish |
| 13:31.57 | J-School | ouch |
| 13:32.01 | J-School | Blame Shirik |
| 13:32.02 | Fisker- | and my achievement progress was rolled back ~200-300 ish 3 times |
| 13:32.07 | Fisker- | so ~1500 casts, no ironjaw |
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| 13:32.23 | J-School | ~blame Shirik |
| 13:32.23 | purl | ACTION blames Shirik (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 13:32.28 | jacklondon | would anyone be so kind to help me with a macro? |
| 13:32.37 | J-School | ~asktoask |
| 13:32.38 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 13:32.43 | jacklondon | what would a macro look like that assists a target selected OR mouseover, casts, if no target selected casts on nearest enemy? |
| 13:32.47 | J-School | close enough. just ask :P |
| 13:32.49 | jacklondon | lol |
| 13:34.22 | jacklondon | chrip chrip |
| 13:35.04 | J-School | pretty much |
| 13:35.09 | jacklondon | lol |
| 13:35.21 | J-School | i just kinda went o.O .. it's too early for me to be able to actually /help/ anyone |
| 13:35.40 | jacklondon | its like look stare, hum? eh maybe later |
| 13:35.54 | J-School | "assists a target" is the part that kinda made me think |
| 13:36.11 | J-School | [target=raid1target] ? |
| 13:36.13 | Wikwocket | probably best to do all the targeting, then have the cast at the end |
| 13:36.14 | jacklondon | maybe /cast [target=mouseovertarget;playertargettarget] |
| 13:36.17 | jacklondon | kinda like that? |
| 13:36.22 | J-School | [target=NAME-target]? |
| 13:36.47 | jacklondon | eh i heal, i play on a 25 box system |
| 13:36.49 | Wikwocket | Not sure if target= supports fallthrough targets like that... |
| 13:36.56 | jacklondon | if its not in that 25 box i dont know whats going on lol |
| 13:37.15 | jacklondon | i think it does |
| 13:37.26 | jacklondon | i've been trying to for a while |
| 13:37.32 | Wikwocket | Well, which do you want to have priority, the mouseover or assist? |
| 13:37.39 | J-School | Who are you assisting? Same person every time? Party lead? |
| 13:37.41 | jacklondon | target |
| 13:37.52 | jacklondon | nah its usaully random people, a dpser or one of several tanks |
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| 13:38.25 | Footrot | Okay, I'll try this. :) Aside from WowWiki (out of date) and the sticky on the UI & Macros Forums (confusing), where do I go to learn about Secure code stuff? |
| 13:38.31 | Wikwocket | you could set up a line like, target my target's target if I am targetting a friendly, or mouseover if it's hostile |
| 13:38.47 | jacklondon | is the ; a way to place a 2nd action like in that kind of a case? |
| 13:39.01 | Wikwocket | and then target nearest enemy if I don't have a hostile target yet |
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| 13:39.17 | jacklondon | ya kinda like that but mouseover is freindly too |
| 13:39.22 | Ose | what do I use as a separator between the different options in /castrandom? |
| 13:40.02 | jacklondon | ./cast [target=... i have no idea how that would look |
| 13:40.31 | Wikwocket | Ose: just a comma |
| 13:40.36 | J-School | Ose: should be a comma unless you're changing conditions |
| 13:40.42 | Ose | hmm |
| 13:40.45 | Footrot | So no-one knows of any Secure code resources? |
| 13:40.54 | Wikwocket | jacklondon: you want this macro to be able to target and cast on friendlies as well? |
| 13:40.56 | Ose | it's supposed to work with mounts right? |
| 13:41.02 | J-School | for instance /castrandom [flyable] Drake, Uglee Drake, CHOPPA; Kodo, Win Kodo, Failtor |
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| 13:41.21 | jacklondon | i'd target them but its assist and cast from my freindly target |
| 13:41.30 | Wikwocket | Footrot: the only resource I know of is http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11162847431 but I'm sure there's more |
| 13:41.35 | J-School | But without being home, I'm kinda :| with macros. |
| 13:42.05 | Footrot | Wikwocket: Thanks muchly, but I don't follow that at all. :( |
| 13:42.09 | Castigo | guys can anyone enligh me how to pass variables by reference in lua to a function? |
| 13:42.15 | Wikwocket | Me either, I don't use secure code hehe |
| 13:42.15 | jacklondon | lol J-School |
| 13:42.16 | Castigo | (rtfm i know..) |
| 13:42.25 | Footrot | The WowWiki one was easier, but it's out of date now sadly. |
| 13:43.45 | Footrot | Castigo: You don't. Use multiple return values if you need to return more than one result. |
| 13:43.45 | Wikwocket | On the targetting macro, I am not a conditional macro expoert, I recommend building it one piece at a time with testing |
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| 13:43.49 | jacklondon | iduno if wrapping my head around it looking like this is right but.. what do you think of /cast [target="mouse over" OR "current targets target"] Judgement |
| 13:44.01 | jacklondon | thats a good idea actually |
| 13:44.06 | Slakah | Is there an ScrollFrame guide/example purely in lua (I'm not talking about faux)? |
| 13:44.41 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 13:44.51 | jnwhiteh | there's half a chapter dedicated to it in the book, in pure lua |
| 13:45.07 | jacklondon | actually /cast [target="player's mouse over target's target" or current target's target]... what would that look like? |
| 13:46.11 | J-School | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:46.19 | Castigo | ehm... why can't i join WoWAce btw? |
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| 13:47.03 | Slakah | jnwhiteh: thanks |
| 13:47.05 | jacklondon | cool, i'll mess with that i think |
| 13:48.31 | J-School | ~poke Pwppy |
| 13:48.32 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Pwppy, pokes Pwppy repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 13:48.39 | J-School | s/Pwppy/Peppy. |
| 13:48.43 | J-School | god i fail |
| 13:48.46 | J-School | going back to homework |
| 13:49.18 | jnwhiteh | jy7r8Uud |
| 13:49.32 | jnwhiteh | word! |
| 13:49.44 | J-School | interesting |
| 13:49.55 | J-School | msg nickserv identify LULZNOTMAHPASSWORD |
| 13:49.56 | J-School | ? |
| 13:50.01 | jnwhiteh | no, not even close |
| 13:50.19 | Castigo | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/99099 doesn't work (doesn't set the values), value passed is from db.profile.myval (anyone) |
| 13:50.19 | jnwhiteh | login to my work pc, which isn't even remotely accessible |
| 13:51.26 | jnwhiteh | Castigo: thats the wrong pastey?# |
| 13:51.39 | Wikwocket | That's a login? Yikes don't want to see your password :P |
| 13:51.46 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 13:51.48 | Castigo | jhw bah |
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| 13:51.50 | Castigo | it is |
| 13:52.07 | Castigo | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/99098 is the correct one |
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| 13:54.24 | jacklondon | oh and the time to wait for the servers come back online |
| 13:55.06 | Castigo | btw as info, are the us server as laggy as the eu one lately? eu instance server is kinda fuckedup |
| 13:55.17 | jacklondon | yea |
| 13:55.40 | jacklondon | instance servers are down alot, servers lag and spit up a bit here and there |
| 13:55.52 | jacklondon | lol |
| 13:55.56 | Castigo | outdoor lag is fine on eu |
| 13:56.07 | Castigo | but most of the time it can't find the instances |
| 13:56.14 | Castigo | neither a "blank" one |
| 13:56.29 | Castigo | the other night we had to get inside swp at 15:00 and stay logged inside to keep the instance opened |
| 13:56.36 | jacklondon | most of the time outdoor lag is ok, alot of the time you kind of have to take a test to see if an instance server is up or not |
| 13:56.38 | Castigo | and then inside it lagged so much we couldn't play |
| 13:56.48 | jacklondon | same here |
| 13:57.13 | Castigo | tho it was cool, conflag on twins -> raid dead out of the blue |
| 13:57.30 | jacklondon | swp wasn't up on sunday but we got in on monday tho it was a bit laggy here and there, spent most of the time i was on my feet running at mount speed than my broom |
| 13:57.35 | jacklondon | lmao |
| 13:58.00 | jacklondon | i got my twins healy mace yesterday ^^ |
| 13:58.12 | Castigo | we did brutallus that it was fun tho |
| 13:58.18 | J-School | i doubt i get to see what SWP looks like until 80 :( |
| 13:58.23 | Castigo | we just used dbm timers for the tanking |
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| 13:58.29 | jacklondon | lol |
| 13:58.36 | Ose | can I wrap something around a line in macro to make it be ignored (without removing the line)? |
| 13:58.42 | jacklondon | he's not even hard anymore he just falls over lol |
| 13:58.51 | Castigo | it worked! just took us 6 mins instead of 3 but it worked |
| 13:58.55 | jacklondon | swp isn't hard now J-School its actually fairly easy |
| 13:58.59 | Castigo | J-School it's crap instance ayway |
| 13:59.00 | Wikwocket | Ose: prefix it with "/run --" |
| 13:59.11 | Wikwocket | That makes it a Lua code line, then comments it out |
| 13:59.14 | jacklondon | lol, it is crap the fights are way to difficult |
| 13:59.26 | Castigo | whoever designed it was either drunk or clueless :) (the areas and the mobs i mean, bossfights are nice) |
| 14:00.00 | Castigo | the bossfights are very nice jack, and indeed they are hard, but they are supposed to be like that, at that game level |
| 14:00.04 | jacklondon | its like if you where to take every single thing that somethign can do and throw them at you |
| 14:00.10 | J-School | Well, my guild fell apart two months ago. We tried to do Hyjal last night but instance issues killed that and with it went morale ... again. |
| 14:00.11 | Castigo | but 40mins of trashes to reach kalec are frankly unacceptable |
| 14:00.25 | jacklondon | ya, they are, i dont dissagree but they are extreamly difficult |
| 14:00.51 | Castigo | J-School mh now is easymode, even archi, i normally pug mh on my alt |
| 14:00.55 | jacklondon | all of the trash after kalec isn't bad tho its extreamly short |
| 14:01.28 | J-School | I'd hate to lock with someone else and my guild end up needing me |
| 14:01.39 | jacklondon | sometimes i'd like to have more trash tho o.O or raise the drop rate on trash drops for patterns and such there's alot of BS'ing stuff i want but i've only got a few |
| 14:01.48 | jacklondon | ya |
| 14:02.04 | ZorbaTHut | "I'm still on 2.4.3 cause i still play on old Blizzard servers" <-- this means he's playing on private servers, right? :P |
| 14:02.13 | jacklondon | ya lol |
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| 14:03.20 | ZorbaTHut | poor private server maintainers. I bet they're panicking over Wrath. I cry a single, solitary tear for them. |
| 14:03.51 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
| 14:04.46 | J-School | just one? |
| 14:04.53 | ZorbaTHut | Yes. Just one. |
| 14:05.04 | ZorbaTHut | But it's a very *meaningful* tear. |
| 14:06.09 | Wikwocket | Anyone running a private server brings any troubles squarely onthemselves |
| 14:06.31 | Lopeppeppy | And may they rot in their private hells with their imaginary troubles. *sweet smile* |
| 14:06.39 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, I'm not exactly going to go out of my way to support old server versions |
| 14:07.02 | Wikwocket | Oh, this was AddOn feedback? Wow |
| 14:07.35 | J-School | link imo |
| 14:08.03 | Wikwocket | People who run or use private servers, and then ADVERTISE the fact, just wow |
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| 14:08.14 | anarchyPenguin | Anyone alive in here? |
| 14:08.21 | J-School | ... |
| 14:08.27 | anarchyPenguin | I'll take that as a yes |
| 14:08.34 | anarchyPenguin | I have a hypothesis... |
| 14:08.38 | J-School | 42 |
| 14:08.46 | anarchyPenguin | IRC chat inside WoW |
| 14:09.07 | ZorbaTHut | wikwocket, yep, on the QH comment page |
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| 14:09.10 | J-School | no possible |
| 14:09.14 | J-School | s/no/not/ |
| 14:09.19 | ZorbaTHut | I think he thought that Blizzard runs old servers also, and it's just that most people were upgrading |
| 14:09.24 | anarchyPenguin | one sec |
| 14:09.27 | anarchyPenguin | think of it like this |
| 14:09.33 | anarchyPenguin | write an extrnal program |
| 14:09.38 | anarchyPenguin | vb, C++ w/e |
| 14:09.40 | anarchyPenguin | doesn't matter |
| 14:09.43 | ZorbaTHut | I actually have to go to some trouble to remove private server data from QH, I wish there was an easy way to detect it :( |
| 14:09.49 | J-School | You're right, it doesn't matter. |
| 14:09.59 | anarchyPenguin | have that program export the IRC chat to a text file |
| 14:10.07 | anarchyPenguin | and have your addon bring it up in a window inside WoW |
| 14:10.08 | Industrial | blah, hunter pet charge doesnt stun anymore :( |
| 14:10.18 | Lopeppeppy | anarchyPenguin... Can't be done in real time. |
| 14:10.19 | jacklondon | yay |
| 14:10.36 | J-School | Going to my next class. |
| 14:10.42 | J-School | Be back in ~3 hours |
| 14:10.46 | Lopeppeppy | Wow is Wow, chat programs are chat programs. They don't breed, sorry. |
| 14:10.50 | jacklondon | have fun |
| 14:10.53 | ZorbaTHut | anarchy, the only input/output possible from inside WoW to outside WoW is via reloading the UI |
| 14:10.59 | J-School | Peppy talking about breeding. /wink |
| 14:11.02 | ZorbaTHut | or logoff/logon. |
| 14:11.07 | Lopeppeppy | J, get off to class you bad animal. |
| 14:11.38 | ZorbaTHut | you could technically do it by setting up a standalone client as the "chat gateway" and having it constantly reload the UI every five seconds, but that's about it :P |
| 14:11.54 | ZorbaTHut | you couldn't exactly *play* on that computer at the same time. |
| 14:12.06 | jacklondon | you could how ever make an irc program IE exchat use a float over window and position it on top of wow in a convient area |
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| 14:12.14 | jacklondon | xchat* |
| 14:12.25 | kneeki | Hey all |
| 14:12.35 | Lopeppeppy | Exactly, jacklondon. Xchat does overlay. While you are typing in it, however, you're not in the WoW window. |
| 14:12.54 | Anaral | Just get a second monitor. ;) |
| 14:12.55 | jacklondon | true, but thats about the option available |
| 14:12.58 | Wikwocket | You can enable IRC in WoW.... just turn on Barrens chat |
| 14:13.11 | Mikk | Mikma / Castigo: pong |
| 14:13.33 | Lopeppeppy | Second monitor for the win, indeed. |
| 14:13.48 | jacklondon | ^ |
| 14:13.52 | Mikk | Windowed works reasonably well too fwiw |
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| 14:14.11 | Anaral | My second monitor actually ended up being free, due to the stupidity of a Circuit City clerk. :D |
| 14:14.26 | jacklondon | wow how big? |
| 14:14.38 | Anaral | 19" Samsung |
| 14:14.46 | Anaral | $250 value |
| 14:14.47 | jacklondon | 2 of them? |
| 14:15.16 | Anaral | We bought two, one was broke, I returned just the one, the clerk refunded me for both. |
| 14:15.30 | jacklondon | cool |
| 14:15.31 | Anaral | I didn't realize it until I saw my bank statement. |
| 14:15.35 | Mikk | Blizzard should just link their chat servers with some IRC net!!!111 :o) |
| 14:15.48 | Throngy | yeah gimme /g :) |
| 14:15.54 | Mikk | (Yeah I know... that == instant outside world communication... Barf..) |
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| 14:16.12 | jacklondon | lol, iduno some people play wow to get away from outside communication |
| 14:16.23 | Anaral | My original monitor was only $90. So yeah, a second elcheapo monitor does the trick for easy tracking of IRC while playing WoW. |
| 14:16.30 | Mikk | Well, it's more like being able to stay in touch with /g while doing other things |
| 14:16.37 | Anaral | It also makes writing addons a lot easier. |
| 14:16.40 | Throngy | oh i wonder if you could transfer data by creating events in the calendar... |
| 14:16.55 | Mikk | Define transfer data |
| 14:16.59 | jacklondon | just a separate chat would be nicer, /g on an iphone |
| 14:17.02 | Mikk | Oh... the armory |
| 14:17.11 | Throngy | aye via the armoury |
| 14:17.20 | Mikk | Interesting! |
| 14:17.30 | Throngy | i bet it only updates when you log out |
| 14:17.33 | Mikk | There's probably a hefty delay involved but that's cool |
| 14:17.52 | jacklondon | cool Anaral |
| 14:19.30 | Mikk | Actually, I can't see a calendar on the armory |
| 14:19.36 | Mikk | BUT, the guildinfo tab and gmotd does get synced |
| 14:19.41 | Throngy | you go to tour toon and there's a tab |
| 14:19.49 | Wikwocket | Clearly someone must write a mod that communicates guild chat to the outside world by rearranging the guild bank in a complicated morse-code-like sequence |
| 14:20.04 | Mikk | Wikwocket: guildinfo text would prolly be easier neh? ;) |
| 14:20.05 | jacklondon | lol or by pictures |
| 14:20.09 | Throngy | or by equipping items and logging out |
| 14:20.11 | Wikwocket | hehehge |
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| 14:20.46 | Lopeppeppy | You guys are way too weird. Just get all of your friends to play WoW and use Guild chat. Hello. |
| 14:20.57 | Throngy | but i'm at work! |
| 14:20.59 | jacklondon | brb on xchat |
| 14:21.34 | Throngy | i did have a quick look into tunneling wow via my linux box at home |
| 14:21.52 | Mikk | erm... no :) |
| 14:21.55 | Throngy | (like i've done with mIRC :P) |
| 14:21.57 | Mikk | Kinda needs a direct display |
| 14:22.17 | Mikk | Unless you have a 10+ mbps line to home anyway |
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| 14:22.31 | Throngy | no, just use it as a proxy |
| 14:22.54 | Wikwocket | Clearly, you point a webcam at your guild-chat box and stream it to a webserver |
| 14:23.00 | Throngy | would be good enough for chatting, right up until the moment i get fired ;) |
| 14:23.08 | Wikwocket | You use a dippy-bird on the spacebar to keep you online of course |
| 14:23.10 | Mikk | ahh right. yeah that's easy enough. |
| 14:23.19 | Mikk | just need to hack the realmlist |
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| 14:23.21 | Castigo | mikk my sweet love |
| 14:23.27 | Castigo | of my life i need ur help again ^^^ |
| 14:23.33 | Mikk | I'M NOT LIKE THAT I TOLD YOU!111 |
| 14:23.42 | Throngy | hehe |
| 14:23.46 | Castigo | loooooool |
| 14:24.12 | Castigo | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:24.26 | Castigo | but it doesn't set/get the value, i suppose it has something to do with reference/copy parameters of lua |
| 14:24.42 | Mikk | Yeah, only tables are references |
| 14:24.50 | Mikk | You're just modifying a local variable inside the function |
| 14:25.28 | Mikk | What you probably want to do is pass it a NAME instead, and get/set self.db.profile[varName] |
| 14:26.13 | Mikk | And you're still doing set() wrong |
| 14:26.29 | Mikk | Do: set = function(info,v) self.db.profile[varName] = v end |
| 14:26.36 | Mikk | Trust the input value |
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| 14:27.44 | Castigo | mikk can't i pass the variable itself? using names is gonna intruduce missnaming bugs all over the place i am afraid |
| 14:28.27 | jacklondon | simple jack |
| 14:28.48 | Mikk | No, variables are always passed by value, not reference |
| 14:29.17 | Mikk | lua> myVar="hi"; local f=function(v) v="WOOWOO" end; f(myVar); print(myVar) |
| 14:29.19 | lua_bot | Mikk: hi |
| 14:30.13 | Mikk | And to be fully honest I don't see the difference. Just stick "" around the names you're already using? ;) |
| 14:30.36 | Mikk | Er except you prolly have "self.db...." at the beginning that needs to be cut out |
| 14:30.43 | Mikk | But yeah.. you're already supplying the names is my point |
| 14:31.03 | anarchyPenguin | HAHA |
| 14:31.14 | Mikk | For what it's worth, you can even have a verifier in your _AddToggle() function that doublechecks that it's being passed a known variable name |
| 14:31.33 | Mikk | Which would provide a layer of protection that doesn't exist at all right now |
| 14:31.54 | Mikk | (Remember that Lua isn't strongly typed.. noone complains if you access a table member that doesn't exist - you just get a nil back) |
| 14:32.10 | Mikk | (And globals are table members too!) |
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| 14:33.59 | jacklondon | so is there anything that exports output channels into another program and displays them in real time? |
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| 14:34.33 | [dRaCo] | no |
| 14:34.57 | alestane | Not without violating the Terms of Use. |
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| 14:35.40 | jacklondon | ah |
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| 14:41.47 | alestane | Are the auth servers down? I can't sign into the forums. |
| 14:42.29 | Lopeppeppy | It's Tuesday, my sweet baboo. |
| 14:43.01 | alestane | That doesn't usually stop me from signing into the forums or acct. management. I'm trying to make sure I'm not being hacked. |
| 14:43.16 | Lopeppeppy | I always have issues signing in on full-maintenance Tuesdays. |
| 14:44.11 | Mikk | Yeah, auth servers are typically down for a while during maintenance |
| 14:44.17 | Mikk | But they have a tendency to come up way before the realms |
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| 14:44.37 | jacklondon | lol at counter spelling hunters |
| 14:45.05 | Lopeppeppy | Login Error confirmed, alestane. Happy sparklytuesdayday to you. |
| 14:45.07 | Mikk | Twitch play reflexes. "He's casting something" *mash CS key* |
| 14:45.27 | alestane | That makes me feel somewhat better. |
| 14:46.09 | Lopeppeppy | *hugs* |
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| 14:47.00 | Mad_ | motd |
| 14:48.11 | Lopeppeppy | yes |
| 14:48.27 | Mad_ | *whoops* |
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| 14:52.01 | Lyn | mikma, fishing ogrimmar part 2 |
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| 14:56.51 | Wikwocket | So Old Craft eluded you yesterday? |
| 14:57.24 | Lyn | after ~70 fishes and about 3-6 corpse runs |
| 14:57.24 | Lyn | yes |
| 14:57.55 | Wikwocket | I may catch him eventually... suppose I should warm up catching Ironjaw |
| 14:58.23 | jacklondon | anyone use model viewers? |
| 14:58.42 | maddeathelf | messed with it a little |
| 14:58.55 | jacklondon | trying to remember the one i found that ran on os x |
| 15:00.03 | maddeathelf | http://www.sailesha.com/wowmodelview/ |
| 15:00.05 | maddeathelf | ? |
| 15:00.06 | maddeathelf | maybe |
| 15:00.18 | jacklondon | lol thats the one |
| 15:00.47 | maddeathelf | google ftw lol |
| 15:01.21 | jacklondon | lol alpha ftl |
| 15:02.11 | Throngy | i'm using mHUD but it hasn't been updated to 3.0.2 and i fancy a change anyway, any suggestions? |
| 15:03.13 | kneeki | ooo |
| 15:03.19 | jacklondon | make on with pitbull, i heard that xperl has a hud to it now |
| 15:03.19 | kneeki | 9 days until ubuntu 8.10 =) |
| 15:03.25 | mikma | lyn: hih |
| 15:03.33 | maddeathelf | Anyone know if it's doable to add a new tab to the blizz FriendsFrame. Odd thing to do i know.... |
| 15:03.41 | Lyn | :< |
| 15:04.17 | Lopeppeppy | That reminds me to look for a pitbull update... *goes trolling* |
| 15:05.14 | kamdis | Throngy, IceHUD and DHUD are updated. There's also a fan update of MetaHUD. |
| 15:06.38 | Hjalte | Throngy: I believe Underhood is also maintained, it was good when I last tried it. |
| 15:07.49 | Throngy | cool, thanks for those |
| 15:10.41 | Matrix110 | wowinterface client ftw |
| 15:10.50 | Throngy | i'm also looking for a bar to show the cooldown of shield slam (etc) when in combat - i tried using dominos but buttons just aren't what i need |
| 15:10.59 | Matrix110 | "Clique" -> "Clique" and "Lightheaded" found |
| 15:11.00 | Matrix110 | woot? |
| 15:11.11 | jnwhiteh | where? |
| 15:11.35 | Matrix110 | Well I downloaded the client yesterday |
| 15:11.37 | maddeathelf | Throngy: OmniCC is what i always use |
| 15:11.38 | Matrix110 | added Clique |
| 15:11.49 | Matrix110 | and now it asks me if its Clique or Lightheaded :D |
| 15:12.00 | jnwhiteh | "the client" |
| 15:12.00 | jnwhiteh | @? |
| 15:12.10 | Matrix110 | WoWInterface UI Manager |
| 15:12.57 | Matrix110 | nothing major just a bit odd that it presents me the choice Lightheaded:P |
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| 15:13.49 | jnwhiteh | oh, hehe |
| 15:13.51 | jnwhiteh | dunno |
| 15:14.00 | kamdis | Throngy, maybe TellMeWhen? http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10855-TellMeWhen.html |
| 15:16.16 | Throngy | doesn't omnicc just put numbers on the buttons? |
| 15:17.09 | Wikwocket | OmniCC does that, and it can also pulse buttons when they cool down |
| 15:17.13 | Wikwocket | It's very nicew |
| 15:17.25 | Throngy | yeah i use it already :) |
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| 15:17.52 | Throngy | TellMeWhen looks like it is what I'm looking for... thanks! |
| 15:18.41 | kamdis | np |
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| 15:22.03 | Anaral | Awesome. Even Norton knows how annoying their software is to remove. LOL. |
| 15:22.19 | Wikwocket | They have had to have a dedicated Norton uninstaller for years |
| 15:22.45 | alestane | maddeathelf: Shouldn't be any reason why you can't add a tab to the Friends panel. |
| 15:22.46 | Anaral | Heh |
| 15:24.16 | cogwheel | ~seen foxlit |
| 15:24.20 | purl | foxlit <n=foxlit@0x573e6bae.alb2nxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 16h 50m 39s ago, saying: '*5'. |
| 15:24.23 | Matrix110 | Hmm can you tell the WoWINterface UI Manager to reinstall addons? |
| 15:24.59 | Wikwocket | Hmmm think TellMeWhen can alert me when Surge of Light procs? |
| 15:25.53 | Throngy | Wikwocket: looks like that's what it's for |
| 15:26.06 | Throngy | Sword and Board for me :P |
| 15:26.27 | Wikwocket | Hmm |
| 15:26.47 | Wikwocket | I was looking for an audio alert for things like Surge of Light, Hot Streak, etc, but this may do |
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| 15:30.05 | kamdis | Wik, I don't know. I use Mik ScrollingBattleText to alert me of procs. |
| 15:30.13 | kamdis | but it's pretty hefty if that's all you want |
| 15:30.18 | Wikwocket | Right |
| 15:30.29 | Wikwocket | I use the built-in floating combat text normally |
| 15:31.02 | jacklondon | is there a good configurable audio alert addon for cooldowns, self buff procs, and such? |
| 15:31.19 | cogwheel | opie is foxlit's right? (i.e. return Silvas == foxlit) |
| 15:31.40 | Wikwocket | I used to use ChatSound for audio alerts but that's ancient now |
| 15:31.55 | jacklondon | hm |
| 15:32.02 | Lopeppeppy | brb, lunchings |
| 15:32.16 | Wikwocket | MikScrollingBattleText does seem to allow sound alerts, meybe I'll try it |
| 15:32.18 | Wikwocket | *maybe |
| 15:34.46 | Throngy | i use msbt but i need something permanently on screen for this i think, although i've been meaning to try audio cues for a while |
| 15:36.10 | jacklondon | i use needtoknow to configure buffs/debuffs timer bars but i dont think it tracks cooldowns |
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| 15:36.58 | Wikwocket | Right, for your Shield Slam use, a cooldown bar or notice like that may be best |
| 15:37.00 | kamdis | yeah, it split off into a separate mod, TellMeWhen |
| 15:37.27 | kamdis | There's also Ghost: Pulse 2 - flashes the icon on your screen when CDs are over and can do sound too I think. |
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| 15:41.33 | Throngy | hmm quartz does cooldowns doesn't it? i just need to show only the ones i'm interested in |
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| 15:45.01 | jacklondon | i think ghost: pulse 2 is exactly what your looking for thro |
| 15:45.17 | kamdis | i'm not sure Quartz does cooldowns |
| 15:45.28 | Wikwocket | TellMeWhen looks nice, anyone know if the icons can be resized? |
| 15:45.43 | Shirik|zZz | tsk tsk, haste |
| 15:45.53 | haste | what now :p ? |
| 15:45.54 | Shirik | bad man and your overuse of commas |
| 15:46.18 | Shirik | sorry I'm a grammar nazi :P |
| 15:46.30 | maddeathelf | alestane: you still there? |
| 15:46.31 | haste | I wrote it at 5AM |
| 15:46.47 | alestane | Sort of, I'm jugging a couple things. What's up? |
| 15:46.48 | Shirik | :P |
| 15:47.28 | maddeathelf | the whole friends pane thing. i'm not sure where to being. any chance you know of somewhere with examples or howtos. wowwiki failed me :( |
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| 15:49.01 | Shirik | I would advise you to read the code of the friends frame |
| 15:49.20 | Shirik | If you don't understand it, then read pil |
| 15:50.07 | dokomar | hey all. is there any way to test the coding of an addon without being in wow? |
| 15:50.20 | Shirik | depends on what you're trying to do |
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| 15:51.03 | maddeathelf | Shirik: i'm trying to put a dkp mod next the the raid tab for our guild dkp addon |
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| 15:51.22 | dokomar | well... i ran into a snag last night with the coding. while i got no errors, the time played kept updating in the actual chatbox |
| 15:51.26 | Shirik | doesn't change the fact that you should review that code, maddeathelf |
| 15:51.32 | Shirik | figure out how the raid tab got there in the first place |
| 15:51.58 | Jumpee | SetAlpha is permitted in combat, yes? |
| 15:52.27 | dokomar | so i'm trying to figure out how to have this one line which is supposed to tell me the amount of time i was on the last level, to also not display every updated second of time that i am on the current level in the chatbox |
| 15:52.34 | kneeki | Jumpee: Depends on the frame |
| 15:53.00 | kneeki | I think if it's a button, you cannot set alpha on it anymore, nor can you show() or hide() |
| 15:53.03 | maddeathelf | yeah i'll go back to it Shirik. i'm just of limited skill so i fumble my way through most things by looking at examples of similar functions. i'll just have to keep reading :) |
| 15:53.17 | dokomar | it seems to call the /played every second... |
| 15:53.21 | Jumpee | Yep, I know about show/hide |
| 15:53.23 | kneeki | I dont think you can even enablemouse(false) anymore |
| 15:53.33 | Shirik | maddeathelf: And thus you remain at "limited skill." Reading the current code is one of the best ways to familiarize yourself with the language and its use |
| 15:54.02 | Shirik | Copying examples, etc., is one of the worst ways to learn anything (admittedly it's a great way to get something done, but in the end you didn't really do anything) |
| 15:54.32 | alestane | maddeathelf: I was going to suggest reading FriendsFrame.xml, but if you need a little more help, I have a couple things for you: |
| 15:56.13 | alestane | CreateFrame("Button", "MyNewFriendsTab", FriendsListFrame, "TabButtonTemplate"); |
| 15:56.15 | dokomar | hey... what about the wow test server? is that usually up during mantinence time? |
| 15:56.47 | dokomar | ...maintinance^ |
| 15:57.00 | dokomar | .... (sp?)^ |
| 15:57.06 | Shirik | maintenance (sp?) |
| 15:57.09 | alestane | Excuse me, I think it's actually important to name the new frame "FriendsFrameToggleTab4", or whatever the next number will be. |
| 15:57.14 | Shirik | hm, batbot seems to be broked |
| 15:57.34 | Shirik | and yes, usually it is dokomar |
| 15:57.54 | maddeathelf | oh i didn't realise i could do that. shows how nooby i am alestane. ty. i'll go read up some more before i do do it. ty |
| 15:58.27 | alestane | Basically, you have to create a tab, add it to the list, and define what happens when someone clicks on it. |
| 15:58.39 | dokomar | kk |
| 15:58.48 | dokomar | so much for that then -.- |
| 15:58.51 | Shirik | ok |
| 15:58.58 | Shirik | I'm really getting sick of WoW always putting patches in C: |
| 15:59.03 | mikma | liek hai all |
| 15:59.27 | Jumpee | And I hate Vista |
| 15:59.33 | maddeathelf | ty |
| 15:59.39 | Shirik | Vista is great |
| 15:59.45 | Shirik | just there is no reason to put everything in C: |
| 15:59.47 | Jumpee | Pthbbt |
| 15:59.47 | dokomar | vista rocks |
| 16:00.02 | dokomar | been using vista since it came out |
| 16:00.18 | Shirik | give me a valid reason for disliking vista, and then I may agree with you. Until then, I just stick you in that crowd of people that assume vista is awful because it's new |
| 16:00.34 | Jumpee | It doesn't do anything for me, all I do is play games |
| 16:00.37 | dokomar | the only thing that was wrong with vista (aside from the insanely long file transfer/copy times before sp1) was the fact MS renamed everything |
| 16:00.44 | zenzelezz | no-one ever hated Vista because it's new |
| 16:01.00 | Shirik | Jumpee: Did you try using the mouse or keyboard? |
| 16:01.03 | Shirik | That generally makes it do things for me |
| 16:01.12 | kneeki | My current biggest qualm with vista is that they moved everything. All the options, and settings were needlessly moved, and stuff was renamed which made it harder to adapt. That's it for me though |
| 16:01.35 | Shirik | kneeki: Admittedly they did move a lot of things, especially with regards to the control panel, however it just takes getting used to |
| 16:01.43 | Shirik | 3.1 -> 95 was similar |
| 16:01.44 | Jumpee | Try using the mouse or keyboard? Of course |
| 16:01.49 | sylvanaar | theres always "classic" mode |
| 16:01.56 | Shirik | even in classic they renamed some things |
| 16:01.58 | kneeki | Yeah. It defenatly took some getting used to |
| 16:02.05 | Shirik | so it's not where you expect |
| 16:02.18 | kneeki | I still don't like it though. I use Vista at home, and XP at work. I'd much rather troubleshoot an XP problem. =\ |
| 16:02.24 | sylvanaar | yeah, true. you manage to find stuff though, they have hints everywhere |
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| 16:03.37 | Shirik | that was impressive |
| 16:03.46 | Shirik | Cannot download patch: Need 35MB more space on C: |
| 16:03.49 | Shirik | so I go delete stuff |
| 16:03.51 | sylvanaar | haha |
| 16:03.53 | kneeki | rofl |
| 16:03.55 | Shirik | Cannot download patch: Need 40MB more space on C: |
| 16:04.01 | Shirik | ... |
| 16:04.03 | Jumpee | ugh |
| 16:04.06 | kneeki | Get a bigger HDD |
| 16:04.07 | sylvanaar | why is it using c: |
| 16:04.13 | Shirik | Because it's being idiotic, sylvanaar |
| 16:04.18 | Shirik | kneeki: I have almost 1 TB of space |
| 16:04.22 | kneeki | O.o |
| 16:04.23 | sylvanaar | then again I have wow on its own partition |
| 16:04.25 | dokomar | hey wonderful option for vista thou... you cant find something you need, use the search bar in the start menu |
| 16:04.27 | sylvanaar | w: lol |
| 16:04.48 | kneeki | I have WoW on my own partition myself =) |
| 16:04.52 | Shirik | kneeki: I just have no space on C:, because I shouldn't NEED any space there |
| 16:05.00 | Shirik | But it's all like "nope, gotta download patch to C: sorry" |
| 16:05.02 | Shirik | "pz" |
| 16:05.10 | kneeki | Ah |
| 16:05.32 | kneeki | Because WoW Is putting patches in the in the Users dir on Vista |
| 16:05.47 | sylvanaar | thats where it should be going |
| 16:05.53 | Shirik | wow, I have 7.39GB in recycle bin |
| 16:06.01 | sylvanaar | 10% |
| 16:06.04 | kneeki | sylvanaar: That's not where it should be going. It should go to wherever WoW is located |
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| 16:06.17 | Shirik | 7.39 used, sylvanaar :) |
| 16:06.33 | sylvanaar | kneeki nope. wow can be in program files, it shouldn't be going there |
| 16:06.35 | Shirik | should turn off the recycle bin |
| 16:06.46 | Jumpee | I don't see any patching going on today. |
| 16:06.51 | Shirik | WoW is installed at D:\Program Files (x86)\ for me |
| 16:06.57 | sylvanaar | the 10% thing doesnt work well as your disk size growz |
| 16:07.25 | mikma | shirik: how's the filesystem? :D |
| 16:07.33 | Shirik | mikma.... it disappeared |
| 16:07.38 | Shirik | I tried to show a friend |
| 16:07.43 | Shirik | and it literally just disappeared |
| 16:07.57 | mikma | oh wow, that's funky |
| 16:08.03 | Shirik | He would assume I was making it up but I still had the command windows open from when I typed in the commands earlier |
| 16:08.08 | mikma | i was in belive that you were able to get it back |
| 16:08.11 | mikma | being so pro and all |
| 16:08.12 | sylvanaar | oh they changed it, lol, i never looked before |
| 16:08.13 | Shirik | I didn't want it back |
| 16:08.22 | Shirik | I tried to delete it and it got pissy |
| 16:08.26 | sylvanaar | you can specify a fixed size |
| 16:09.09 | Shirik | there's only one big problem I have with vista |
| 16:09.16 | Shirik | you can no longer do windows->u->enter to shut down |
| 16:10.20 | Jumpee | Since all I do is play games and write addons Vista does nothing for me |
| 16:10.40 | Shirik | can not that argument be extended to any OS? |
| 16:10.51 | Shirik | also, I actually disagree with that statement |
| 16:11.07 | Jumpee | yes, but Vista changed things, and not for the better |
| 16:11.24 | Shirik | It is arguable that I could more easily turn your computer into a zombie if it were running some other Windows OS, not Vista |
| 16:11.33 | Shirik | solely by you playing games |
| 16:12.08 | Jumpee | I guess, but I have never had any problems with XP, soI can't say I see a difference |
| 16:12.21 | Shirik | the problem with XP is you're running as an administrator |
| 16:12.33 | Shirik | even if you weren't you have access rights you shouldn't have |
| 16:12.48 | Jumpee | and maybe some things are better internally, but again it's invis to me |
| 16:13.18 | Shirik | security should never be invisible to you |
| 16:13.28 | Shirik | but continue to think what you wish |
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| 16:13.28 | Shirik | I'll go back to my previous statement |
| 16:13.42 | Shirik | 12:00:04) (@Shirik) give me a valid reason for disliking vista, and then I may agree with you. Until then, I just stick you in that crowd of people that assume vista is awful because it's new |
| 16:13.44 | Jumpee | I have a router and a firewall so I ain't too concerned |
| 16:13.58 | Shirik | A router and a firewall is not going to prevent you from installing a program you shouldn't |
| 16:13.59 | Jumpee | stop sticking me!! lol |
| 16:14.02 | Brimm | I run vista on my laptop and it works fine once you fiddle with it a bit |
| 16:14.58 | Brimm | And wrt security, the average user really doesn't care to mess with it, they just want an os "that simply works" |
| 16:15.03 | Jumpee | here is one thing that irritates me, when I finish playing "The Witcher" the Media Center thing pops up every time. And I don't want to see it. |
| 16:15.18 | Shirik | hahahahaha, one of our members went offline during raid last night |
| 16:15.20 | Shirik | today he makes a post |
| 16:15.25 | Jumpee | but I can't tell it to go away and never darken my door again |
| 16:15.29 | Shirik | "My account time ran out last night in the middle of the raid. I bought my timecard today so I should be set for a while now Smiley" |
| 16:15.31 | foxlit | "sorry I fell asleep?" |
| 16:15.45 | kamdis | lol shirik |
| 16:15.46 | kneeki | foxlit: That happened to me a few times |
| 16:15.48 | kamdis | fun times |
| 16:15.53 | Brimm | Shirik: I've had that happen often |
| 16:16.10 | Brimm | Well, not me personally, but people in my raids |
| 16:16.16 | Shirik | never seen it before :) |
| 16:16.23 | Shirik | I prefer just to have a recurring payment |
| 16:16.24 | Shirik | it's easier |
| 16:16.26 | foxlit | It's amazing that people in raiding guilds actually play using time cards |
| 16:16.34 | Jumpee | we had a guy fall asleep and left his mic on, the snoring was great |
| 16:16.35 | Brimm | College students mostly |
| 16:16.43 | foxlit | On the other hand, I've had my subscription elapse on CC expiration |
| 16:16.47 | Brimm | I always use recurring subscription (3mo to save a bit of $) |
| 16:16.50 | Shirik | foxlit: Funny thing about that |
| 16:16.52 | Shirik | my CC expired |
| 16:16.56 | Shirik | And they're still charging it |
| 16:17.06 | Shirik | Granted, I got a new card and it's a debit card |
| 16:17.13 | Brimm | jumpee: voice activated ftl |
| 16:17.15 | Shirik | but I go to the account page and it still says the old expiration date |
| 16:17.19 | foxlit | I'd talk to your bank :) |
| 16:17.31 | dokomar | jumpee on the witcher... right click on the shortcut and look in it's properties for it to have an -mce at the end |
| 16:17.35 | dokomar | remove the -mce |
| 16:17.39 | dokomar | prob solved |
| 16:18.00 | Jumpee | hmmm, ok I'll ry that dokomar |
| 16:18.04 | Brimm | it defaults to a media center install? |
| 16:18.10 | Lyn | mikma, lol, i've found "the 1 ring" but no crafty :< |
| 16:18.10 | foxlit | "Players are revisiting old dungeons, forming raids on city leaders" |
| 16:18.13 | Shirik | This can't be good: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.worldofwarcraft.com |
| 16:18.17 | foxlit | ^^ and failing horribly, I presume |
| 16:18.30 | dokomar | while i'm no good at coding in LUA i can certianly say i rock at fixing comp probs :P |
| 16:18.32 | krka | dokomar: LUA, what's that? Did you mean to say Lua? |
| 16:18.33 | mikma | lyn: oh that's nice :D |
| 16:18.59 | Lyn | :< |
| 16:19.07 | Lyn | no achievement for fishing it :< |
| 16:19.22 | Jumpee | dokomar, how the heck did you know that? |
| 16:19.30 | dokomar | but it's under the shortcut tab in the shortcut's properties in the "target" line |
| 16:19.32 | Brimm | We went to AQ last night. Wiped on twins because healers forgot to heal one of the warlock tanks. Then some FDd hunters got up after the twins spawned but people had run in, so the twins ran out of the room and bugged, requiring a soft reset. We gave up at that point. |
| 16:20.05 | dokomar | some of my other games had that problem on different formats of my vista system, so i did research |
| 16:20.18 | Brimm | Pretty incredible how people think that just because it's old content they don't need to pay attention. |
| 16:20.21 | dokomar | it's something that happens when the shortcuts are made on the install of the prog i think |
| 16:20.40 | Shirik | wtf is my DNS doing... |
| 16:20.48 | Fisker- | it's being overloaded! |
| 16:20.48 | Shirik | > www.worldofwarcraft.com |
| 16:20.49 | Shirik | Server: dns-redir-lb-01.tampabay.rr.com |
| 16:20.52 | Jumpee | dokomar, well it was there allright. Thanks for the tip. |
| 16:20.55 | Shirik | Non-authoritative answer: |
| 16:20.55 | Shirik | Name: www.worldofwarcraft.com.cfl.rr.com |
| 16:20.57 | Shirik | ........ |
| 16:21.00 | Shirik | no... |
| 16:21.01 | dokomar | np |
| 16:21.03 | dokomar | :) |
| 16:22.17 | *** join/#wowuidev leethal (n=leethal@cm-84.215.134.225.getinternet.no) |
| 16:22.21 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, are you playing with ebola again? |
| 16:22.37 | dokomar | speaking of programs thou can anyone recommend a good IRC prog other then mIRC? |
| 16:22.40 | *** join/#wowuidev Malgayne (n=caseymon@cpe-24-30-145-15.san.res.rr.com) |
| 16:22.40 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v Malgayne] by ChanServ |
| 16:22.55 | foxlit | www.worldofwarcraft.com. CNAMEworldofwarcraft.com.;worldofwarcraft.com A 12.129.242.22 |
| 16:23.03 | kneeki | dokomar: Chatzilla if you use firefox |
| 16:23.04 | alestane | For what platform? |
| 16:23.06 | Duman | no one wants my irc client recommendation ;) |
| 16:23.15 | dokomar | lol |
| 16:23.23 | dokomar | i dont use ff :( |
| 16:23.23 | Lopeppeppy | dokmar, I use Trillian and they all laugh at me every single day for it. So not Trillian. :) |
| 16:23.24 | kneeki | or trillian has a decent IRC plugin |
| 16:23.44 | Shirik | foxlit: Can you get to the site? |
| 16:23.47 | Duman | shirik: hijacking |
| 16:23.58 | dokomar | mIRC tells me that in 30 days i need to register... |
| 16:24.11 | foxlit | Shirik: telnet www.worldofwarcraft.com 80 >> Trying 12.129.242.22... >> telnet: connect to address 12.129.242.22: Connection refused |
| 16:24.15 | Duman | shirik: no, it's down |
| 16:24.17 | Lopeppeppy | "Tells you" or "suggests", dokomar? |
| 16:24.21 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, site is down for me. |
| 16:24.28 | Brimm | dokomar: you won't "need" to register, it'll just keep nagging you |
| 16:24.28 | Shirik | Duman: No, that's definitely my ISP |
| 16:24.31 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: I don't laugh at you, you've just found joining registered rooms manually preferable to using more than one chat client. |
| 16:24.35 | Shirik | re: hijacking |
| 16:24.36 | Brimm | but if you use it enough, it's only $20 to register |
| 16:24.42 | Duman | yes, I mean, rr is hijacking the response |
| 16:24.44 | *** join/#wowuidev Carancu (n=carancu@c83-255-70-30.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 16:24.48 | Shirik | yes and I want to kill them |
| 16:24.54 | Duman | sounds like a good plan! |
| 16:25.02 | foxlit | use someone else's NS? |
| 16:25.06 | Shirik | I should |
| 16:25.19 | *** part/#wowuidev Malgayne (n=caseymon@cpe-24-30-145-15.san.res.rr.com) |
| 16:25.47 | Lyn | mikma, now some fugly gay horde fuc-ers are going on my nerves again -.- |
| 16:25.48 | Lopeppeppy | Thanks, alestane! |
| 16:25.51 | dokomar | bah i dont want to have to pay... |
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| 16:26.10 | mikma | lyn: yeah, that's why i did it with my druid :I |
| 16:26.10 | Lopeppeppy | Then don't, dokomar. It's not required, it's just asking a lot. |
| 16:26.14 | Brimm | dokomar: like I said, you don't need to. It'll just nag you for 10 secs every time you start it. |
| 16:26.22 | Lyn | meh |
| 16:26.26 | Lopeppeppy | Thanks to you too, Shirik. It's raining in Peppyville, how depressing. |
| 16:26.27 | mikma | lyn: but imagine horde fishing in IF... |
| 16:26.29 | alestane | Guiltware. |
| 16:26.32 | dokomar | oh lol got it i guess i misread |
| 16:26.34 | Lyn | mikma, i know |
| 16:26.36 | Lyn | they have it harder |
| 16:26.37 | Lyn | but |
| 16:26.48 | dokomar | <--- does that a lot |
| 16:26.48 | Lyn | i dont like that blizzard does pvp achievements for professions |
| 16:26.50 | Brimm | I've used mIRC enough through the years that my $20 was well-spent |
| 16:26.51 | Lyn | also for world events |
| 16:26.54 | Lyn | doesnt fit. |
| 16:26.56 | mikma | true. |
| 16:27.02 | mikma | they should seperate them completely |
| 16:27.26 | Lyn | yep |
| 16:27.35 | foxlit | So what are you objecting to? :) |
| 16:27.38 | Lyn | they did it for one achievement afaik |
| 16:27.43 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: And I still think you should try Pidgin again every now and then. It was not crashy for me at all when I gave it a shot. |
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| 16:28.41 | Duman | I guess the forums died at like 5:something today? |
| 16:28.51 | Duman | died as in, people could no longer log in |
| 16:29.21 | alestane | I haven't been able to log into the forums or acct.mgt. at all today. |
| 16:29.32 | alestane | But I wasn't trying before 10amEST |
| 16:29.55 | Duman | yeah, last posts I'm seeing are from like 5:20am Pacific |
| 16:30.16 | mikma | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/161.jpg |
| 16:30.38 | zenzelezz | 1-slot bag... that is not a *treat*, that's a *taunt* :( |
| 16:30.53 | dokomar | lol |
| 16:31.15 | dokomar | omg i couldnt believe that when i got the penny pouch |
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| 16:32.19 | kamdis | fast-forward to the 3:50 mark http://www.toplessrobot.com/2008/10/mila_kunis_is_kind_of_awesome_beyond_words.php |
| 16:32.48 | alestane | They updated ContainerFrame.lua with code that includes the comment "-- Halloween gag gift" |
| 16:33.06 | Lopeppeppy | Devs need fun too. :) |
| 16:34.52 | Jumpee | if (size == 1) then |
| 16:34.52 | Jumpee | -- Halloween gag gift |
| 16:35.06 | ZorbaTHut | I actually have a character using the penny pouch now |
| 16:35.14 | ZorbaTHut | one extra bag slot! :D |
| 16:35.22 | alestane | If you get it as a total lowbie it's not bad. |
| 16:35.27 | alestane | Free slot. |
| 16:35.32 | kneeki | ZorbaTHut: My wife got that last night, cracked me up good |
| 16:35.44 | ZorbaTHut | it's a mailbox alt, it does nothing besides sit at a mailbox so I can mail stuff to him and use it as an infinite-size bank |
| 16:35.53 | Mike-N-Go | When a 6 slot costs a few silver? |
| 16:36.02 | ZorbaTHut | mike, a 6 slot would require that I walk to a bag vendor |
| 16:36.06 | ZorbaTHut | it's literally not worth the time for me :) |
| 16:36.28 | dokomar | lol |
| 16:36.52 | Mike-N-Go | You are laze. |
| 16:36.56 | |pez| | I... I bought new computer hardware today. |
| 16:36.59 | ZorbaTHut | I cannot argue that |
| 16:37.03 | ZorbaTHut | I mean, I could, but . . . effort |
| 16:37.09 | Shirik | FINALLY |
| 16:37.10 | Shirik | gah |
| 16:37.25 | Mike-N-Go | Shirik: WHAT SHARE?! |
| 16:37.33 | Shirik | account administration works again |
| 16:38.16 | foxlit | So I'm being annoyed by this modifier issue |
| 16:38.20 | batrick | orly |
| 16:38.27 | foxlit | I'd paste some code if pastey was behaving |
| 16:38.34 | Duman | kamdis: that url is awesome |
| 16:38.51 | foxlit | http://www.spirit-dreams.net/ui/notepad/20/POA |
| 16:39.22 | foxlit | The basic premise is that I have a macro with conditionals that I'm trying to determine the outcome of. |
| 16:39.42 | foxlit | However, that macro triggers from a binding, which may eat some of the modifiers if they're a part of it |
| 16:40.12 | Shirik | foxlit: Check out the expiration date: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/5cc93c9a1bd601d3d7f183c988c4091b.jpg |
| 16:40.42 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Seerah] by ChanServ |
| 16:40.49 | MentalPower | anyone here use exchange with their iPhone? I'm getting conflicting reports that it requires an enterprise account with AT&T |
| 16:41.09 | foxlit | So my basic idea is to rewrite the macro modifier conditionals to account for the fact that some modifiers will never be valid |
| 16:41.25 | kamdis | Duman : :-) |
| 16:42.16 | dokomar | ok so i still have that problem of the /played being auto updated in the default chatbox on every second |
| 16:42.22 | Syzgyn | Arg, it figures as soon as my addon is featured on WoWI, I push a build that completely breaks it :( |
| 16:42.37 | dokomar | as per this line... "if (event == "TIME_PLAYED_MSG") then |
| 16:42.37 | dokomar | if (GameTooltip:IsVisible() and GameTooltip:IsOwned(LevelWizFrame)) then" |
| 16:43.06 | *** join/#wowuidev Mike-N-Go (n=MikeNGoS@199.8.237.209) |
| 16:43.37 | alestane | |pez|: And this is something to be timid about? |
| 16:44.51 | dokomar | the object is to allow the time on last level to be updated without the system spamming the /played msg in the chat window in yellow text.... |
| 16:45.33 | mikma | nevcairiel: ping |
| 16:46.16 | *** join/#wowuidev Mike-N-Go (n=MikeNGoS@michaelg20.goshen.edu) |
| 16:46.39 | Shirik | yay |
| 16:46.42 | Shirik | I broked WoW's site again |
| 16:47.15 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, what did I tell you about containing the ebola properly? |
| 16:47.28 | mikma | shirik: you are happy about it? :D |
| 16:48.12 | Shirik | well, it made Lopeppeppy slap me |
| 16:48.49 | Shirik | lua> 14.99 * 12 |
| 16:48.49 | lua_bot | Shirik: 179.88 |
| 16:48.54 | Shirik | so like, a year later |
| 16:49.02 | foxlit | If I wanted to express "any modifier held down but ALT" |
| 16:49.04 | Shirik | I should be able to go to the bank and tell them they owe me $200? |
| 16:49.11 | foxlit | Would I really have to resort to multiple conditions? |
| 16:49.34 | Shirik | foxlit: [mod,nomod:alt]? |
| 16:49.36 | Shirik | That's a guess |
| 16:49.41 | Shirik | I'm not really sure if that can be done |
| 16:49.50 | foxlit | Shirik: probably my bad in expressing what I want |
| 16:49.56 | dokomar | so what would i need to do to stop the spamming of /played event? |
| 16:49.59 | mikma | foxlit: how's the code |
| 16:50.14 | foxlit | Rather than requiring that there be no alt, I don't want to say anything about the desired state of alt. |
| 16:50.27 | Shirik | foxlit: What I just said should be the union of "a modifier is pressed" and "alt modifier is not pressed" |
| 16:50.35 | alestane | Shirik, foxlit: [mod, mod:alt] should work fine. Conditions are evaluated in isolation from each other. |
| 16:50.56 | Shirik | alestane: you mean nomod? |
| 16:50.59 | foxlit | alestane: but they all have to match |
| 16:51.03 | alestane | Oh, okay. Any mod that is not alt? |
| 16:51.07 | Shirik | yes |
| 16:51.19 | foxlit | I'm thinking of the equivalent of /cast [mod:ctrl] [mod:shift] Foo |
| 16:51.32 | Shirik | foxlit: That's an "or" basically |
| 16:51.33 | alestane | [mod:ctrl/shift] |
| 16:51.41 | foxlit | Oh, / works? |
| 16:51.54 | alestane | for conditions that take subtypes, yes. |
| 16:51.54 | foxlit | aweomse, it does |
| 16:52.03 | Shirik | I still like my solution :( |
| 16:52.12 | foxlit | Shirik: you require that alt is not held down |
| 16:52.18 | Shirik | is that not what you want? |
| 16:52.21 | foxlit | No |
| 16:52.28 | alestane | Shirik: Your solution is a good solution to a different problem. |
| 16:52.30 | foxlit | I don't care about which state ALT is in |
| 16:52.36 | Shirik | oh |
| 16:52.41 | Shirik | for cases like "shift+alt" |
| 16:52.44 | Shirik | that wouldn't work |
| 16:52.46 | mikma | foxlit: did you get the simplehtml and link working? |
| 16:53.11 | foxlit | mikma: I got the work around (delay updating); clad later confirmed that it's intended. |
| 16:53.24 | Shirik | foxlit: I know, you wanted ctrl and shift to work. Mine will work for both ctrl and shift, just not combinations :) |
| 16:53.29 | Shirik | which I didn't think of |
| 16:53.32 | mikma | foxlit: ya i was watching. what did you do with the simplehtml? |
| 16:53.41 | foxlit | Navigable text display |
| 16:53.58 | mikma | foxlit: need, gief, want, naw! |
| 16:54.01 | foxlit | Basically, a rather ancient addon configuration box that showed a bunch of different "pages" |
| 16:54.31 | mikma | foxlit: i was planning on converting all the profession-leveling guides ingame and the code i pasted was my testrun for simplehtml |
| 16:54.38 | foxlit | mikma: You already havecode to making SimpleHTML display text |
| 16:55.06 | mikma | foxlit: but i need a code that has the linking working |
| 16:55.07 | foxlit | All you need is |Hlinkid|hlink text|h and OnHyperlinkClicked handler (self, linkid, fulllink) |
| 16:55.18 | foxlit | mikma: The example code from last night works |
| 16:55.28 | *** join/#wowuidev AbsoRayne (n=chatzill@pool-72-73-223-149.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) |
| 16:55.36 | AbsoRayne | oh hai |
| 16:55.38 | foxlit | actually, if you could link it, I can add the SetText fix into it |
| 16:55.40 | AbsoRayne | Is anyone busy? |
| 16:55.51 | foxlit | Didn't see that coming. |
| 16:55.53 | mikma | foxlit: which one |
| 16:56.08 | AbsoRayne | :P |
| 16:56.08 | foxlit | mikma: your simplehtml demo box pastey. |
| 16:56.10 | AbsoRayne | Actually |
| 16:56.14 | AbsoRayne | thats why im here |
| 16:56.19 | AbsoRayne | and im hoping someone could help |
| 16:56.21 | foxlit | There was only one; I posted a reply to it. |
| 16:56.28 | Brimm | Ask away and find out |
| 16:56.41 | mikma | foxlit: http://pastey.net/98966-23ej |
| 16:56.45 | *** join/#wowuidev Gryphen (n=gryphon@71.216.187.10) |
| 16:56.51 | AbsoRayne | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8207-RaynesBurntBlackCherryLite.html#comments The latest comment is from a Mac user whos using my UI. He/she keeps having crash issues with the UI, which has been narrowed down to the config.wtf |
| 16:57.01 | AbsoRayne | Im trying to help, but i have to say im totally stumped. |
| 16:57.33 | Brimm | Doesn't the shadow engine require a specific version of MacOS or something? |
| 16:57.48 | AbsoRayne | I really have no idea, I havent used a Mac since highschool :/ |
| 16:58.09 | Lopeppeppy | Shadow problems were addressed during test, so I'm not 100% sure what the solution was. I immediately turned off the shadow detail upon loading the compilation... maybe you should turn off shadows and re-upload the compilation, if shadows have the potential to cause issues still? |
| 16:58.12 | Lopeppeppy | brb, sheeple |
| 16:58.37 | foxlit | mikma: http://pastey.net/99121 |
| 16:58.49 | AbsoRayne | Lopeppeppy: Not a bad idea. |
| 16:59.03 | Brimm | Rayne: maybe make an optionnal download to get the "shadows enabled" config.WTF file? |
| 16:59.23 | mikma | foxlit: thank you *very* much for this working example :) |
| 16:59.45 | AbsoRayne | Also not a bad idea, Brimm |
| 17:00.00 | AbsoRayne | Ill have to look into that once the servers are up |
| 17:00.14 | mikma | foxlit: now i need to read what you said about the link and make it happen hehe |
| 17:00.40 | AbsoRayne | Now i just need to figure out WHY the new PitBull doesnt work for me O_o, and find a working version of ClassTimers... |
| 17:00.56 | Brimm | I have no idea where I found my ClassTimers but it works fine |
| 17:00.59 | foxlit | mikma: It's not that bad, really. I think <a href=""> also might wok |
| 17:01.06 | Brimm | been raiding with it for a week now |
| 17:01.19 | AbsoRayne | The one on Curse didnt work for me |
| 17:01.27 | mikma | foxlit: that's what the wikipages say, but still not sure about that :) |
| 17:01.36 | AbsoRayne | and of course, wowace links to curse |
| 17:01.37 | batrick | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5974050255&sid=1&pageNo=12#232 |
| 17:01.40 | batrick | look at title |
| 17:01.41 | batrick | then that post |
| 17:01.44 | mikma | i wonder how hard would it be to make "BACK" button, like in browser |
| 17:02.01 | batrick | that thread is getting good |
| 17:02.23 | Brimm | AbsoRayne: I think I was using the v2.1.0-beta version off of Curse. I guess there were broken features that he fixed in the later release but everything that I use works with that release. |
| 17:02.40 | Lopeppeppy | AbsoRayne, I've been looking for the exact same 2 updates. *grin* A timer and a Pitbull that's not hateful. |
| 17:03.10 | durcyn | timer? |
| 17:03.11 | Brimm | I use 3 sets of features: personnal buff timers, target debuff timers and sticky bar (for Slice and Dice) |
| 17:03.15 | AbsoRayne | Brimm: The last one I downloaded, the bars worked, but the timers were HORRIBLY broken |
| 17:03.23 | Lopeppeppy | AbsoRayne, Same. |
| 17:03.32 | AbsoRayne | And I use it for tanking for Sunder Armor, TClap, ect... |
| 17:03.34 | Lopeppeppy | durcyn, a class timer for dots/hots/cooldowns/cookie baking |
| 17:03.48 | AbsoRayne | Lopeppeppy: The new PitBull, does it totally not work for you? |
| 17:03.54 | Brimm | They changed the way debuffs/buffs work now - it no longer gives TimeLeft in seconds but rather TimeOfExpiration as a timestamp |
| 17:03.57 | Brimm | It's borked a lot of addons |
| 17:04.02 | durcyn | Lopeppeppy: ah. i've found happiness with quartz, elkbuffbars, and heatsink |
| 17:04.12 | Lopeppeppy | AbsoRayne, it still tosses errors about buffs/debuffs, etc. |
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| 17:04.19 | Brimm | Let me see what version I have in the TOC file for ClassTimer |
| 17:04.34 | Lopeppeppy | durcyn, maybe heatsink tells me about hots/dots/cooldowns, but quartz and ekb do not. |
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| 17:04.38 | Brimm | yeah it's the 2.1.0-beta |
| 17:04.41 | AbsoRayne | Lopeppeppy: Mine wont even show up, it just throws errors, and isnt viewable in the Rock menu :/ |
| 17:04.44 | Brimm | 2nd latest on curse |
| 17:04.45 | durcyn | Lopeppeppy: UnitBuff/UnitDebuff were changed in 3.0, PB should have been updated on wowace |
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| 17:04.49 | Lopeppeppy | Smexy, AbsoRayne. |
| 17:05.04 | durcyn | Lopeppeppy: yeah, i can see how it would be irksome for things you aren't targetting/focusing |
| 17:05.06 | AbsoRayne | Its about as awesome as losing a limb. |
| 17:05.08 | Lopeppeppy | durcyn, I'm not crusing the wowace site anymore since the change. Just wowi and curse. |
| 17:05.14 | Bouvi | Any wowinterface staff members on that can move addons? |
| 17:05.35 | kamdis | Brimm: ClassTimer v2.1.275-beta off curse.com is working for me |
| 17:05.43 | durcyn | Lopeppeppy: wowace projects appear on curse now, so that's fine |
| 17:05.49 | AbsoRayne | kamdis: oh hai |
| 17:05.55 | Gnarfoz | except alpha builds don't |
| 17:05.55 | kamdis | heya Rayne |
| 17:05.59 | Lopeppeppy | Kamdis, me love you long time. |
| 17:06.00 | Gnarfoz | which were exposed before |
| 17:06.14 | kamdis | ~hug Lopeppeppy |
| 17:06.15 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on Lopeppeppy and suddenly hugs Lopeppeppy tightly |
| 17:06.20 | AbsoRayne | hrm |
| 17:06.22 | leethal | umm, what's Wowmatrix? |
| 17:06.27 | Lopeppeppy | leethal, heresy |
| 17:06.35 | alestane | *Rowrhiss!* |
| 17:06.38 | AbsoRayne | in b4 the wowmatrix thread on the forums! |
| 17:06.45 | Lopeppeppy | *rolls eyes* |
| 17:06.50 | Brimm | My rule of thumb for addons on patch weeks has been find a version that "mostly works" and stick with it for the next 1-2 weeks while people break and fix their addons repeatedly :p |
| 17:07.05 | kamdis | excellent call Brimm |
| 17:07.08 | Shirik | What is "Varying daily periodic rate" on my credit card statement, anyone know? |
| 17:07.11 | AbsoRayne | Im suprised my UI survived the patch as well as it did... |
| 17:07.20 | leethal | the recent post on wowui mentions Wowmatrix, no links or any info about it other than it being illegal for some reason |
| 17:07.24 | leethal | curious me is curious |
| 17:07.33 | Lopeppeppy | Leethal, not "illegal", just immoral. Read up. http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18358&highlight=wowmatrix |
| 17:07.36 | Brimm | It's not illegal but it's definitely one of those "gray areas" |
| 17:07.37 | Shirik | leethal: wowi or wowui? |
| 17:07.42 | leethal | wowi |
| 17:08.07 | AbsoRayne | brb |
| 17:08.11 | kamdis | Shirik: http://www.consolidatedcredit.org/debt-learning-center/understanding-apr.aspx |
| 17:08.12 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, that's a daily changing interest rate designed to screw you over, IMO? |
| 17:08.16 | Brimm | People want a 1-stop-app to update all their addons, much like WAU was. Now there are two big sites out there: WOWI and Curse - and Curse has pretty much no interest in collaborating on a joint updater. |
| 17:08.47 | Gnarfoz | as does wowi, I'd guess |
| 17:08.47 | kamdis | Shirik, basically APR/365 |
| 17:09.14 | Gnarfoz | also, WAU wasn't a one-stop, either, because WAU actually carried less addons than CC does now ;) |
| 17:09.32 | Brimm | Eh, I think under certain conditions they'd be interested (shared advertisment in the updater, proper credit, links to the actual site for full addon descriptions, etc), but I'm speculating here :p |
| 17:09.51 | Gnarfoz | yeah, that's likely to happen :p |
| 17:10.01 | AbsoRayne | Who else is waiting for the 'Extended Downtime' to pop up on the login screen? |
| 17:10.01 | Brimm | precisely :p |
| 17:10.07 | Gnarfoz | remember, one of them is suing the other in u.s. courts ;p |
| 17:10.18 | Brimm | so it's all going to come down to who ever ends up having the best updater the fastest |
| 17:10.22 | AbsoRayne | Lopeppeppy: Its my job! |
| 17:10.41 | Lopeppeppy | "best" and "fastest" being relative terms. |
| 17:10.52 | Gnarfoz | by definition |
| 17:10.52 | Brimm | obviously |
| 17:11.03 | AbsoRayne | RIP WAU :( |
| 17:11.12 | Brimm | but once something is adopted as the "de facto" standard in a community, it's fairly hard to change without being a significant improvement |
| 17:11.34 | *** join/#wowuidev Dashkal (n=dashkal@WoWUIDev/Nexus/dashkal) |
| 17:11.40 | Gnarfoz | it's easier when you kill off the de facto standard while you're at it. |
| 17:11.42 | Gnarfoz | ;P |
| 17:11.49 | Brimm | yep |
| 17:12.05 | AbsoRayne | IM debating if I want to uninstall my WotLK beta or not... |
| 17:12.05 | *** join/#wowuidev Lunessa (n=Lunessa@WoWUIDev/Lunessa) |
| 17:12.11 | Lunessa | station |
| 17:12.14 | Gnarfoz | why'd you do that? |
| 17:12.17 | Brimm | it's good for updating addons during live downtime :) |
| 17:12.32 | alestane | AbsoRayne: Looks like you can't reinstall it afterward without installing another copy of WoW. |
| 17:12.38 | mikma | foxlit: so, i can't remember html that well, how did the <a href="lol">text</a> get directed into correct place? just with the OnHyperlinkClick? |
| 17:12.39 | *** join/#wowuidev Pazza_ (n=john@toffice.expresstaxrefund.com) |
| 17:12.53 | Syzgyn | Brimm: Amen to that. |
| 17:12.57 | AbsoRayne | alestane: Really? O_o wow |
| 17:13.14 | alestane | It tries to patch it from your live WoW install and chokes on 3.0 |
| 17:13.37 | Brimm | I wish they'd leave the PTRs up during patch days so authors can go and update their addons (because, who are we kidding, we're not going to do it before the patch) |
| 17:14.16 | AbsoRayne | I suppose it could do what the patch did to my copy of the game. Turn my Install folder from 'Program File(x64)/World of Warcraft' to 'Program Files(x64)/World of Warcraft/World of Warcraft' :| |
| 17:14.45 | AbsoRayne | \o/ Vista |
| 17:15.00 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa. |
| 17:15.21 | Lunessa | Morning. |
| 17:15.23 | kamdis | What's with all the Auc-Adv hate on the forums? I LOVE it. |
| 17:15.26 | alestane | Bring a wolfle to work. |
| 17:15.50 | dokomar | kamdis: it's like vista... it's different :P |
| 17:16.15 | Shirik | AbsoRayne: You should not have it installed there anyway |
| 17:16.25 | kamdis | It took maybe 5 times at the AH to get used to it, and a little poking around in the options. It's just better in every possible way. |
| 17:16.27 | AbsoRayne | Shirik: Ive never had a problem with it |
| 17:16.30 | Shirik | yes you have |
| 17:16.31 | kamdis | so frustrating. |
| 17:16.32 | Shirik | you just never noticed it |
| 17:16.43 | Shirik | because Vista was painfully trying to work around the problems |
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| 17:17.04 | *** join/#wowuidev Dewin (n=Daniel@c-76-115-111-253.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 17:17.08 | AbsoRayne | Eh |
| 17:17.21 | Shirik | UAC And You: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14650 |
| 17:17.26 | AbsoRayne | anyone want a phone? It never stops ringing, fair warning. |
| 17:17.28 | Shirik | A PSA by Shirik |
| 17:17.41 | Lunessa | Shirik: UAC loves you. It wants to be your friend. |
| 17:18.40 | Brimm | No love for UAC |
| 17:18.48 | Brimm | First thing I disabled when I got Vista :p |
| 17:18.56 | AbsoRayne | Shirik: Like I said, ive never had any Addon issues, or game issues since installing it there. |
| 17:19.05 | AbsoRayne | If and when I do, Ill do that. Trust me ive read it a few times |
| 17:19.05 | Shirik | AbsoRayne: Did you even read my post? |
| 17:19.08 | AbsoRayne | Yes |
| 17:19.11 | AbsoRayne | I have it bookmarked |
| 17:19.14 | AbsoRayne | actually |
| 17:19.15 | Shirik | Then you will know why you don't have any problems |
| 17:19.53 | Dashkal | GC Confused me. Didn't the cast speed slow on icy touch get removed long ago? Given that, how are they reducing cast speed as GC just implied? |
| 17:20.04 | Shirik | What's GC? |
| 17:20.15 | kamdis | ghostcrawler |
| 17:20.20 | Dashkal | I'm abbreviating on sylables |
| 17:20.27 | YammYgirlcoding | guys! why the download buttons from wowui doesnt work under firefox3 ? |
| 17:20.42 | Shirik | wowui or wowi? |
| 17:20.44 | kamdis | wowui or wowi? |
| 17:20.49 | YammYgirlcoding | wowui |
| 17:20.50 | kamdis | jinx shirik |
| 17:20.53 | Shirik | I said it first |
| 17:20.55 | Shirik | you can't jinx me |
| 17:21.05 | Shirik | I don't think anyone from here works on wowui |
| 17:21.14 | *** join/#wowuidev jacklondon (n=simpleja@118.13.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 17:21.14 | Gnarfoz | or cares enough to find out |
| 17:21.49 | jacklondon | is the patch downloadable yet? |
| 17:22.08 | alestane | Which patch? |
| 17:22.20 | Gnarfoz | 3.0.3, I think, and I don't know if that's going live this week. |
| 17:22.31 | jacklondon | ^ ahh perhaps |
| 17:22.35 | AbsoRayne | Its not |
| 17:22.50 | alestane | I don't think it is. |
| 17:23.01 | jacklondon | ya the downloader doesn't have anything to pick up |
| 17:23.02 | Dashkal | only 40 mins until servers are to come up and no download for me. My bet is no patch |
| 17:23.06 | kamdis | YammYgirlcoding: The work for me. The cursor doesn't change to show it's "clickable" but it downloads. |
| 17:23.11 | kamdis | *They |
| 17:23.21 | kamdis | of course, i just tried one for the first time so..? |
| 17:23.31 | YammYgirlcoding | kamdis i click it, and nothing happens =( |
| 17:23.41 | alestane | I think they're taking an extra week to catch as many bugs as they can, and make sure they have time to really fix them instead of just make things worse. |
| 17:23.57 | AbsoRayne | brb |
| 17:24.03 | kamdis | I don't know what to tell you, but it's not FF3. |
| 17:24.21 | jacklondon | ya, that'd be a better idea anyways, more maintenance makes me happier than nerfs |
| 17:24.54 | Shirik | ok |
| 17:25.01 | Shirik | there's a problem when I go to check out stuff from SVN server |
| 17:25.12 | Shirik | and the realm name is "SE450 CVS Repository" |
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| 17:26.06 | Jelly-School | ~hug Peppy |
| 17:26.07 | purl | ACTION hugs Peppy |
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| 17:27.39 | AbsoRayne | There, much better |
| 17:27.47 | Jelly-School | orly? |
| 17:27.52 | AbsoRayne | srsly |
| 17:27.55 | mikma | foxlit: ping |
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| 17:30.36 | Lopeppeppy | ~hug Jelly-School |
| 17:30.37 | purl | ACTION hugs Jelly-School tightly until Jelly-School turns slightly blue |
| 17:30.41 | Lopeppeppy | Sheeple did not die. |
| 17:31.20 | Jelly-School | Well. Kill their faces off. |
| 17:31.28 | Jelly-School | Then bubble-hearth! |
| 17:32.49 | AbsoRayne | oh hey look! |
| 17:32.53 | AbsoRayne | a new Keylogger topic |
| 17:33.03 | *** part/#wowuidev Kandoko (n=Testing@adsl-068-159-119-207.sip.gsp.bellsouth.net) |
| 17:33.35 | Brimm | YamnYgirlcoding: Do you have javascript disabled? The download link might be a javascript function. |
| 17:35.44 | AbsoRayne | \o/ Gundam 00 |
| 17:37.25 | AbsoRayne | guh...whats a good media player for mkv format? And dont say VLC |
| 17:37.39 | Brimm | MediaPlayerClassic |
| 17:37.44 | Brimm | with the appropriate codecs |
| 17:37.51 | AbsoRayne | I have CCC |
| 17:38.03 | Brimm | WMP can play MKV though (it will bitch at an unrecognized format but will play it anyway) |
| 17:38.21 | Hjalte | AbsoRayne: Do you mean CCCP? |
| 17:38.22 | AbsoRayne | Yeah, it just doesnt play the Subtitles |
| 17:38.26 | AbsoRayne | which sucks |
| 17:38.26 | jacklondon | i actually liked mpc alot more than vlc |
| 17:38.31 | Jelly-School | Rayne: VLC |
| 17:38.32 | AbsoRayne | Hjalte: Yeah, hit enter too quick |
| 17:38.33 | Brimm | mpc is very, very nice |
| 17:38.43 | Brimm | I used VLC for a long time but changed to MPC and didn't look back |
| 17:38.55 | Brimm | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_player_classic |
| 17:39.06 | Hjalte | AbsoRayne: Get media player classic, it's even included in CCCP install, but you can choose not to install it |
| 17:39.12 | jacklondon | i went back to vlc actually, but for simplistic reasons, and i threw away my windows box |
| 17:39.37 | Brimm | vlc was having too much trouble with HD formats for me |
| 17:39.41 | Brimm | slow/choppy |
| 17:39.46 | AbsoRayne | Yeah |
| 17:39.51 | AbsoRayne | VLX is doing that to me, too |
| 17:39.54 | AbsoRayne | VLC* |
| 17:39.56 | jacklondon | ya, mpc really has no issues |
| 17:40.01 | AbsoRayne | my god whats wrong with me lately. |
| 17:40.02 | Brimm | MPC will work if you have the right codecs |
| 17:40.15 | Brimm | but since MPC uses codecs, it also has a predisposition to crash if the codec does |
| 17:40.22 | Jelly-School | Rayne: You divided by zero. |
| 17:40.23 | Brimm | VLC in my experience crashed less |
| 17:40.31 | AbsoRayne | Jelly-School: I cant stop, its too fun! |
| 17:40.38 | AbsoRayne | The colors, Jelly! THE COLORS! |
| 17:40.42 | Brimm | example, seeking in WMVs tends to crash MPC a lot |
| 17:40.50 | jacklondon | never really had an issue with it, but eventually i just had to use vlc, there is no os x version of mpc |
| 17:41.09 | AbsoRayne | As long as I can watch Gundam 00 S2, I dont care :3 |
| 17:41.28 | Jelly-School | Rayne: You son of a bitch. |
| 17:41.32 | jacklondon | lol :] |
| 17:41.54 | AbsoRayne | Jelly: ;_; |
| 17:42.05 | Jelly-School | <3 Rayne |
| 17:42.08 | AbsoRayne | <3 |
| 17:42.21 | Jelly-School | See ckk? No hugs! Just hearts! |
| 17:42.59 | AbsoRayne | My wifes getting me a HARO for Christmas. |
| 17:43.01 | AbsoRayne | I love it |
| 17:43.09 | AbsoRayne | Shes as big of a nerd as I am. |
| 17:43.13 | Lopeppeppy | ... I read that wrong. |
| 17:43.20 | jacklondon | lol same, applies both ways tho |
| 17:44.24 | Jelly-School | A ... bike? Or are we not on the same wavelength? |
| 17:44.24 | AbsoRayne | wrong wavelength Jelly |
| 17:44.24 | Jelly-School | Cause I was thinking, Sweet! I'm wanting to get me a DK Signal for Jeebusday! |
| 17:44.38 | Jelly-School | But alas... |
| 17:44.43 | AbsoRayne | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxfTSbtW_EA Haro |
| 17:45.13 | AbsoRayne | Shes like |
| 17:45.15 | AbsoRayne | yeah |
| 17:45.15 | Jelly-School | ...would get punted |
| 17:45.16 | AbsoRayne | I already bought it |
| 17:45.26 | foxlit | mikma: pong |
| 17:45.55 | AbsoRayne | Servers should be up soon, hopefully |
| 17:46.03 | AbsoRayne | Maybe they wont be as laggy as theyve been :/ |
| 17:46.08 | Dashkal | ooo, nice. I had an issue with a GM giving simply wrong advice, and got a survey before I thought to fire off a feedback email |
| 17:46.11 | kamdis | my dogs would destroy that thing in 5 seconds flat |
| 17:46.27 | Dewin | Heh... I logged into WoW to see if there was a patch and saw one server as 'offline' and no others in the list. |
| 17:46.39 | Dewin | I wonder what my cat would do to that. |
| 17:46.55 | Lopeppeppy | Dewin, that just means servers aren't up yet after maintenance. |
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| 17:47.26 | Dewin | yeah, I figured |
| 17:47.34 | Dewin | Just usually I catch them all down or at least more than one in the list :) |
| 17:47.41 | Jelly-School | WTB being home imo |
| 17:47.44 | Lopeppeppy | Today, you are lucky |
| 17:48.15 | Jelly-School | T/F: They are removing having to have all the stupid masks for the Hallows End achievements. |
| 17:48.18 | AbsoRayne | Is anyone else in love with the new login screen? |
| 17:48.36 | foxlit | AbsoRayne: Everyone else hates it. |
| 17:48.45 | AbsoRayne | foxlit: :| |
| 17:48.49 | Jelly-School | I don't mind it but I wouldn't say that I'm /in love/ with it. |
| 17:48.51 | AbsoRayne | <3 my new Login screen |
| 17:49.14 | foxlit | Just wait until you get a nice long server queue, and see the screen shake and your speakers annoy you every 30 seconds |
| 17:49.17 | Jelly-School | It lost it's novelty in Beta. |
| 17:49.46 | foxlit | It wouldn't be half-bad without the wyrm |
| 17:49.53 | Dewin | Only thing I don't like about the new login screen is the delay before username/password comes up |
| 17:50.02 | AbsoRayne | As far as the screen shakin goes, I know. There were MC pugs for 2 fucking days straight to get people core hounds :| |
| 17:50.07 | Dashkal | Jelly-School: True/False? True. Tigole confirmed that |
| 17:50.21 | Jelly-School | Dashkal: Woot!!!! |
| 17:50.24 | Dewin | Source? (I believe you, but I like reading blue) |
| 17:50.30 | Dashkal | Dewin: sec |
| 17:50.37 | Dashkal | It was days back so fell off the front page. |
| 17:50.38 | Jelly-School | I was going to be superfly tnt if I had to get all those stupid masks |
| 17:50.46 | AbsoRayne | I need the pet |
| 17:50.50 | AbsoRayne | I have everything else done |
| 17:50.55 | Dewin | Got the pet on my first set of summons' |
| 17:51.14 | Dewin | First 5 summons was 4 brooms and 2 squashlings |
| 17:51.40 | Dewin | seen absolute kuh-rap since then. |
| 17:51.43 | Atriace | woah! |
| 17:51.45 | kneeki | I want his damn mount |
| 17:51.46 | Atriace | no no no no no |
| 17:52.01 | Atriace | Texture has no scale function... |
| 17:52.14 | Dashkal | Masks removed from the meta-achievement: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11296671390&postId=112954745295&sid=1#3 |
| 17:52.56 | Dashkal | I need to do the trick or treating tonight (gnerds are supposed to laste two weeks now) |
| 17:53.09 | Dashkal | I already did EK, then stopped when I realized I was wasting them |
| 17:53.25 | *** join/#wowuidev Codex| (i=Codex_@CPE001346f71097-CM00159a3f1452.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 17:53.32 | AbsoRayne | they do need to remove Sinister Calling, imo :/ |
| 17:53.45 | Dewin | is that the pet/helm one? |
| 17:53.47 | Codex| | im still trying to get my damn squaslhingg... for the 2nd year |
| 17:53.49 | Dewin | or the stink bomb one? |
| 17:53.53 | Lunessa | Dashkal: Meh, I did all the candy-buckets and the GNERD rage achievement in 1 day. |
| 17:53.54 | Codex| | pet/helm |
| 17:54.05 | Dewin | heh, if they removed that I'd have the title instantly. |
| 17:54.10 | Codex| | same |
| 17:54.14 | duaiwe | AbsoRayne: nah, that's probably the one thing keeping EVERYONE from having the title |
| 17:54.14 | Dashkal | Kisarani is pretty much dead set on the sinister calling remaining. Hallowed By Thy Name isn't inteded to be an everybody-achievement |
| 17:54.15 | Codex| | pet is too rare |
| 17:54.18 | Brimm | I did all the buckets and then the server crashed for 12 hours. Had to get up early the next day to try and get my GNERD kills in. |
| 17:54.29 | Dashkal | Lunessa: GF aggro made me waste the first set |
| 17:54.33 | Dewin | I got my GNERD kills in during our 40man Silvermoon City raid. |
| 17:54.37 | Dashkal | I'll have my gnerd rage soon enough |
| 17:54.49 | Dewin | 260 HKs in the span of an hour? maybe 2? |
| 17:54.51 | AbsoRayne | got my GNERD in one AV game |
| 17:55.01 | AbsoRayne | Anyone play a resto druid? |
| 17:55.04 | Lunessa | Dashkal: Trade you. My achievements + no-g/f for your no-achienments +g/f |
| 17:55.07 | Dashkal | I'll be doing it in AV. I've seen nothing on failstrom for enemy city raiding |
| 17:55.08 | Codex| | whats an easy way to check if you have all the known flightpaths? no addon ive encourntered does this |
| 17:55.15 | *** join/#wowuidev isman (n=drag@mlr78-3-88-162-68-235.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 17:55.16 | Dashkal | Lunessa: uh, no. no thank you :p |
| 17:55.29 | Lunessa | See, I knew you were a wise man. |
| 17:55.29 | Dashkal | RL GF > pretty pixels |
| 17:55.31 | Dewin | I win, I have achievements + wife :-p |
| 17:55.31 | Jelly-School | Sounds like a fair deal imo. |
| 17:55.42 | Jelly-School | "wife" = lose |
| 17:55.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Codex|: afaik, there's no way to check without visiting a flight master on the given continent and checking |
| 17:56.12 | Lopeppeppy | Jelly, don't be hatin'. |
| 17:56.14 | Codex| | what if i do visit a flightmaster? how can i see missing nodes then? |
| 17:56.41 | Dewin | Only thing I wish UA could still do is let me track a meta-achievement and then -- from the tracker -- start tracking its sub-achievements |
| 17:56.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Codex|: guess? :D I'm not aware of any API methods that let you access flight points you don't have. |
| 17:56.45 | Dashkal | Codex|: compare to a known-complete map |
| 17:56.59 | Xinhuan | Shirik|AFK around? |
| 17:57.13 | Lunessa | Cairenn|afk: Please see: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11296588317&sid=1 |
| 17:57.20 | Xinhuan | just in case he's not like really afk |
| 17:57.32 | Xinhuan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11296588317&sid=1 |
| 17:57.36 | Shirik|AFK | rawr |
| 17:57.37 | Lyn | sb, why isnt everyone so friendly like you or the one hunter from furious who doesnt shoot at everyone he see's in ogrimmar :x |
| 17:57.38 | Shirik|AFK | what's up? |
| 17:57.41 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 17:57.44 | Xinhuan | there's an initial suspect of a virus in that one |
| 17:57.45 | Lopeppeppy | Evil Jelly-dear |
| 17:57.50 | Xinhuan | care to check it up Shirik|AFK? |
| 17:57.54 | Xinhuan | and spread the word |
| 17:57.58 | Shirik|AFK | are you fucking kidding me? |
| 17:58.00 | Jelly-School | I'll totally buy you a drink, Peppy! |
| 17:58.01 | Shirik|AFK | I'm sorry |
| 17:58.02 | Xinhuan | not kidding you |
| 17:58.03 | Lopeppeppy | ~huggle Gryphen |
| 17:58.11 | Xinhuan | its better to catch this early than late |
| 17:58.19 | Shirik|AFK | downloading to verify |
| 17:58.27 | Xinhuan | Antiarc downloaded it and he caught DR/Spy.Ardamax.N.548 |
| 17:58.36 | Xinhuan | according to his antivirus software at least |
| 17:58.43 | Dewin | hmm |
| 17:58.50 | Dewin | <<The meeting stones no longer have level requirements>> |
| 17:58.50 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: even windows defender caught that |
| 17:58.51 | Dewin | Is this true? |
| 17:58.53 | Antiarc | AntiVir, which caught the virus in their Updater, too |
| 17:58.59 | Codex| | eek |
| 17:59.02 | Xinhuan | rofl |
| 17:59.02 | Dewin | I haven't been able to see the PTR test realms. |
| 17:59.03 | Codex| | trojan alwer |
| 17:59.05 | Codex| | alert* |
| 17:59.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Dewin: o_0 orly? |
| 17:59.08 | Xinhuan | well start spreading the word about it |
| 17:59.10 | sb | Lyn: what hunter? |
| 17:59.19 | Xinhuan | loads of peoplw may actually download that one |
| 17:59.20 | Dewin | It's a non-blue post on the forums, I'm trying to see if it's true. |
| 17:59.21 | Lyn | sb, ayaliah |
| 17:59.39 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: they should get vista :P |
| 17:59.44 | Xinhuan | its bad to ride on WAU's popularity heh |
| 17:59.44 | Lyn | -a |
| 17:59.47 | Lyn | ayliah |
| 17:59.48 | Xinhuan | to spread a virus |
| 17:59.48 | Shirik|AFK | Xinhuan: I prefer not to believe in antivirus software, however I agree it's probably true |
| 18:00.02 | Xinhuan | you could probably reverse engineer it a bit to see |
| 18:00.22 | Dewin | Run it in a sandbox while watching it , heh |
| 18:00.23 | nevcairiel | Shirik|AFK: i never had windows defender get a false positive, it rarely detects something, but if it does, its the true thing =P |
| 18:00.24 | Shirik|AFK | no CLI header, this will take a little bit of time |
| 18:00.35 | sb | Lyn: dont know that guy, xrealm i think |
| 18:00.44 | Brimm | wat, you can't read bytecode in a hex editor? weak |
| 18:00.45 | Xinhuan | wait you're saying windows made something right? :D |
| 18:00.49 | AbsoRayne | Lopeppeppy: When you downloaded my UI, did you see my Profiles for Dominos? |
| 18:00.55 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: yeah the defender isnt too bad |
| 18:01.05 | nevcairiel | it protects against the most common windows viri |
| 18:01.08 | Lyn | ^^ |
| 18:01.18 | Codex| | out of all the achievements, im gonna say sinister calling is the hardest >.> |
| 18:01.25 | Jelly-School | I SEE HOW IT IS PEPPY! |
| 18:01.27 | Jelly-School | ~cry |
| 18:01.28 | purl | ACTION cries and sobs until she nearly drowns in her own tears. |
| 18:01.45 | *** join/#wowuidev Antiarc (n=Antiarc@wsip-70-167-195-98.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 18:02.10 | Dashkal | I wouldn't say hard. HH is dead easy. Just unlikely |
| 18:02.25 | Dashkal | I'm getting my 5 attempts a day in any night I'm free. Hopeful |
| 18:02.39 | Shirik|AFK | NICE! |
| 18:02.41 | Dewin | heh, I got ten attempts on my first night ;0 |
| 18:02.43 | Shirik|AFK | It installs itself to the control panel |
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| 18:02.46 | Shirik|AFK | that's pretty awesome |
| 18:03.02 | Dewin | actually, I think it was even more then that |
| 18:03.15 | Jelly-School | lol |
| 18:03.21 | Codex| | rofl shirik |
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| 18:03.47 | Dewin | ... there are no 3.0.3 test realm patch notes? |
| 18:04.02 | Antiarc | ROFL |
| 18:04.02 | Codex| | im tempted to use the trojan, amd let the guy have my password, and him get his ass kicked by my blizzard authenticator :D |
| 18:04.04 | Antiarc | Decompress that zip |
| 18:04.07 | Dashkal | We got about 12 in our first night |
| 18:04.11 | Antiarc | And you get 3_0.2 Omen.exe and fraps.txt |
| 18:04.15 | Shirik|AFK | surely dangerous, Xinhuan |
| 18:04.16 | Jelly-School | Codex|: kekekekekekekekekekekekeke |
| 18:04.18 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 18:04.29 | Xinhuan | http://wowui.worldofwar.net/?p=mod&m=6654 |
| 18:04.36 | Xinhuan | i posted a warning and reported it |
| 18:04.45 | Xinhuan | however the author of the addon can delete posts on it |
| 18:04.48 | Xinhuan | so hopefully not |
| 18:04.48 | Shirik|AFK | it creates system files, registers itself with autorun |
| 18:05.04 | Codex| | you running it in a sandbox? |
| 18:05.07 | Shirik|AFK | it's also partially encrypted so I can't really see what it does |
| 18:05.10 | Shirik|AFK | no Codex| |
| 18:05.20 | Xinhuan | and i really gotta giggle at 3_0.2 Omen.exe |
| 18:05.20 | Codex| | i was thinking of using vmware to make a small 20gig vista installation sandbox' |
| 18:05.37 | Jelly-School | " Virus/spyware scanned on upload" <-- my favorite part of the page that you download from |
| 18:05.45 | Antiarc | Codex|: I use VirtualPC and Microsoft's IE6/IE8 images |
| 18:05.46 | Codex| | Jelly-School: rofl! |
| 18:05.51 | Dewin | Why is it still up? |
| 18:05.54 | Antiarc | It's very easy. Slow, but utterly painless |
| 18:05.59 | Codex| | Antiarc: you ever tried vmware? |
| 18:06.05 | Shirik|AFK | I don't use sandboxes, Codex|, it's annoying :) |
| 18:06.06 | Antiarc | Yeah, and I like it |
| 18:06.07 | Shirik|AFK | I know what I'm doing |
| 18:06.17 | Antiarc | VirtualPC is just quicker for throwaway installs |
| 18:06.23 | Antiarc | Because Microsoft provides pre-installed VM images |
| 18:06.29 | Codex| | i likedh ow they used a sandbox on that movie, whats it called |
| 18:06.35 | Codex| | with the website that kills people |
| 18:06.40 | Lunessa | VMWare is love. |
| 18:06.45 | AbsoRayne | Someone make the server come up |
| 18:06.47 | AbsoRayne | :| |
| 18:06.49 | AbsoRayne | well |
| 18:06.51 | AbsoRayne | just mine |
| 18:06.54 | Antiarc | See |
| 18:06.54 | AbsoRayne | screw all your servers |
| 18:06.57 | Antiarc | I'm all about Xen |
| 18:07.01 | Shirik|AFK | Anyway I have to go to school |
| 18:07.03 | Antiarc | Paravirtualization hooooo. |
| 18:07.04 | Shirik|AFK | Xinhuan, I'll give details later |
| 18:07.06 | AbsoRayne | Lag'Jaeden > All |
| 18:07.10 | Xinhuan | lol ok |
| 18:07.10 | Shirik|AFK | it's definitely dangerous though |
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| 18:07.17 | Jelly-School | Broken Legion > All |
| 18:07.35 | Codex| | lol |
| 18:07.40 | Antiarc | Shirik|AFK: What's that disassembler you use? |
| 18:07.44 | Codex| | i cant do much with the name Cenarius... |
| 18:07.44 | Dewin | Earthen Red Ring of Death > All |
| 18:07.51 | Dewin | ... yeah, that was stretching it. |
| 18:08.03 | Shirik|AFK | I use a variety of tools Antiarc |
| 18:08.06 | Shirik|AFK | I can send you the package later if you want |
| 18:08.08 | Shirik|AFK | gotta run, sorry |
| 18:08.14 | Antiarc | Please |
| 18:08.20 | Antiarc | I trashed my VM after the last round with wowui |
| 18:08.29 | zenzelezz | <Shirik|AFK> I use a variety of tools Antiarc <-- kinky |
| 18:08.41 | Lyn | sb, meh, now hotsnakes is pissing me on again |
| 18:08.47 | Dewin | We got lucky on Sunday and were able to raid Hyjal just fine (though started late due to issues), except for a 3 second lag spike that hit right as I pulled threat so FD didn't quite work. |
| 18:08.49 | Jelly-School | .... |
| 18:08.53 | Codex| | so, i know that wua is gone, but I wasnt around when anyone said "Why". did they "buy" ace, or, we just prefer curse now, or how did it go down? |
| 18:09.04 | Dewin | but yesterday our TK run was called off due to all of us being trapped inside when instance servers went boom. |
| 18:09.04 | mikma | foxlit: http://pastey.net/99131 <- that one won't work, i get an error 17: attempt to call global 'foo' (a nil value) |
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| 18:09.40 | Dewin | Codex|: The short version is they decided to collaborate with curse because the public access to the SVN and other things were absolutely killing them bandwidth (and thus money)-wise |
| 18:09.50 | Codex| | ahh |
| 18:09.52 | Mike-N-Go | ckknight: May you direct me to the docs for LibSimpleOptions? |
| 18:09.56 | foxlit | mikma: that's not specific to that example, you have a problem in your string syntax |
| 18:10.00 | foxlit | "<html><body><a href="foo">foo</a><a href="bar">foo</a></body></html>" |
| 18:10.04 | ShaneSveller | Mike-N-Go: it's pretty well documented in the code itself |
| 18:10.05 | foxlit | foo and bar are unquoted. |
| 18:10.12 | ckknight | Mike-N-Go: it is luadoc'd. You may either run luadoc on it or read the doc comments. |
| 18:10.16 | foxlit | You really mean [[<html><body><a href="foo">foo</a><a href="bar">foo</a></body></html>]] |
| 18:10.34 | mikma | foxlit: dayem, let's see |
| 18:10.36 | Codex| | i dont like how the curse client doesnt have an update feature that shows mme wtf its doing. when i start it up, it says scanning for new addons. when i push update, it says finding updates |
| 18:10.50 | Codex| | wua actually told me whats being updated, and there was a nice uodate now button and all |
| 18:10.55 | Codex| | update* |
| 18:11.00 | Mike-N-Go | Ahh, I was looking for the doc on wowace.. all of them seem to have disappeared. |
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| 18:11.45 | Codex| | woot my servers up |
| 18:12.04 | ckknight | Mike-N-Go: we're going to have a luadoc -> automatic wiki thing in a little while |
| 18:12.05 | mikma | foxlit: and nothing gets displayed for some reason |
| 18:12.07 | ckknight | nt yet, though |
| 18:12.09 | ckknight | not* |
| 18:12.12 | Dewin | no patch, correct? |
| 18:12.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Dewin: correct |
| 18:12.45 | Dewin | good. Then I should ignore it and go back to work. |
| 18:12.48 | Dewin | But I probably won't |
| 18:12.50 | Mike-N-Go | What happened to the docs on wowace.com? |
| 18:12.53 | foxlit | mikma: try wrapping the text in paragraph tags; if that fails to work, transform <a href="([^"]+)">([^>]+)</a> into |H$1|h$2|h |
| 18:13.22 | mikma | foxlit: what's a paragraph tag? :I |
| 18:13.27 | foxlit | <p> |
| 18:13.39 | mikma | oh, they are <h3>foo</h3> now and nothing |
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| 18:14.28 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Tekkub. |
| 18:14.34 | foxlit | Also, note that echangeText is local |
| 18:14.39 | foxlit | But is declared below where it's used |
| 18:14.39 | AbsoRayne | Lopeppeppy: Answer mah Q >: [ |
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| 18:14.59 | Tekkub | eh? |
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| 18:17.32 | Codex| | why idnt urbanachiever replacing my achievment window? |
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| 18:17.53 | Codex| | isnt* |
| 18:19.05 | Codex| | only thing its replacing is my tracking |
| 18:19.09 | Brimm | maybe it's an option thing? |
| 18:19.19 | Brimm | I've just downloaded it but my server isn't up yet :P |
| 18:19.39 | mikma | foxlit: i don't get it, really :( |
| 18:19.53 | foxlit | mikma: realm entry queue at the moment, give it a few more minutes |
| 18:19.54 | Codex| | brimm: only option is to move the tracker |
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| 18:20.15 | mikma | foxlit: aye, i myself went to nordrassil alliance to test stuff :D my friend is leveling there lol |
| 18:20.21 | mikma | (eu alliance) |
| 18:21.54 | Codex| | brimm: let me know if it replaces ur achievement window |
| 18:22.18 | Xuerian | foxlit: http://pastey.net/99133 =O |
| 18:23.01 | Lunessa | I'm so mean: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11296568827&sid=1 |
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| 18:23.49 | Xuerian | Course, 26 could be 1 instead of .25 to only fade-out the rings when select something <_<... |
| 18:25.35 | Antiarc | http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/e1eed8afd4d3916646d526c14d2066d7 |
| 18:25.39 | foxlit | mikma: http://pastey.net/99134 |
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| 18:26.36 | Codex| | why when handing in rep, doess sometimes it give 82, sometimes 83? |
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| 18:27.52 | cladhaire | because you gain partial rep |
| 18:27.53 | ShaneSveller | rounding maybe? |
| 18:27.59 | cladhaire | think of it as 82.5 :P |
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| 18:28.14 | mikma | foxlit: what the heck :I you just changed one line actually? ;D |
| 18:28.29 | Codex| | yea urban achiever 7.0.1 does nothing :/ |
| 18:28.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Codex|: a cladhaire noted, the game actually properly records fractional rep gains, and when the "fractions" finally add up to a whole number, it actually notes that. |
| 18:28.48 | Antiarc | Codex|: You're human, right? |
| 18:28.53 | Codex| | yes |
| 18:28.53 | Syzgyn | Codex|: Whaa>? |
| 18:28.54 | Xuerian | mikma: Block elements around inline elements ftw |
| 18:28.57 | Antiarc | You're getting 75 rep + 7.5 rep = 82.5 rep |
| 18:29.03 | Antiarc | But, it rounds it off |
| 18:29.18 | Codex| | it rounds up every other time, and down every other other time? |
| 18:29.18 | ZorbaTHut | I wonder how it stores the fractional rep gains, and whether it's vulnerable to rounding error |
| 18:29.21 | AbsoRayne | I need to go back to running WoW in Fullscreen |
| 18:29.23 | Syzgyn | Codex|: What do you mean it does nothing? |
| 18:29.33 | Codex| | not replacing my window at all, or any sub tabs |
| 18:29.44 | Codex| | Antiarc: why does it round up half the time, and down the other |
| 18:29.46 | Syzgyn | do /ua show |
| 18:29.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Codex|: it keeps track of those fractions. |
| 18:29.58 | Dashkal | Codex|: it compares your old rep (rounded) to your new rep (rounded) |
| 18:30.04 | Dashkal | then displays the difference |
| 18:30.12 | Codex| | oh |
| 18:30.25 | Syzgyn | Codex|: You have to go and set the keybinding |
| 18:30.31 | Syzgyn | or use the slash commands |
| 18:30.31 | Dewin | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11296673678&sid=8#8 Maaven = win |
| 18:30.37 | Lunessa | ... math, it's what's for computers. |
| 18:31.04 | Codex| | oh thanks syz |
| 18:31.06 | NightHawkTheSane | if you were to grind furbolgs (4 rep/kill, you'd see every 3rd furbolg would give 5 rep, i beleive) |
| 18:31.25 | Xuerian | Dewin: XD |
| 18:31.49 | Dewin | Night: (((((((((()))))))) here have some. I looted them from a dead LISP programmer. |
| 18:31.56 | NightHawkTheSane | Dewin: haha |
| 18:32.11 | Codex| | syz: theres no way to hook it to the regular achievment window? |
| 18:32.12 | elite3vil | NightHawkTheSane: at least it wasn't a semicolon you missed.. |
| 18:32.16 | mikma | foxlit: anyway, thanks again. now i think i will try doing a small professions-guide |
| 18:32.59 | Syzgyn | Codex|: It's hooked through the regular /achievement commands, and clicking the window that pops up when you earn an achievement, and comparing achievements with someone |
| 18:33.05 | Syzgyn | You have to set the keybinding yourself. |
| 18:33.54 | Codex| | but you cant hook it to the main bar icon correct? |
| 18:33.56 | ZorbaTHut | argh why isn't my server up |
| 18:34.08 | Syzgyn | Oh, I forgot about that one |
| 18:34.12 | Syzgyn | I dont have it shown |
| 18:34.13 | ZorbaTHut | I'm going to go post an angry thread on the forums using the word "bli$$ard" at every opportunity >:( |
| 18:34.21 | Syzgyn | I'll do it for the next build |
| 18:34.24 | Codex| | its what ive been using to open up achievment window so far |
| 18:34.26 | Codex| | wicked |
| 18:34.57 | Mike-N-Go | I want to run a makefile under the command line on Mac OSX, how do I do this? |
| 18:35.07 | Wikwocket | US realms appear to be coming back online |
| 18:35.39 | Syzgyn | Mike-N-Go: make doesnt work? |
| 18:36.37 | Mike-N-Go | I try "make macosx /Users/mjgoossen/Downloads/lua-5.1.4/" and get "make: *** No rule to make target `macosx'. Stop." |
| 18:36.59 | ZorbaTHut | generally, you just go to the appropriate directory and type "make" |
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| 18:37.36 | Mike-N-Go | Oh, I'll cd over to it.. |
| 18:38.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Mike-N-Go: the cli on osx works -very- much like it does on any other *nix system, really. |
| 18:38.15 | ShaneSveller | that's cause it *is* a *nix system |
| 18:38.22 | NightHawkTheSane | ShaneSveller: well, yes, that would be why :D |
| 18:38.28 | ShaneSveller | =P |
| 18:38.32 | Mike-N-Go | It became made. |
| 18:38.48 | Xuerian | And root said... MAKE! |
| 18:38.50 | Xuerian | And it was so. |
| 18:39.46 | ShaneSveller | sudo make me a sandwich |
| 18:39.50 | NightHawkTheSane | cd kitchen; make eggs; make bacon; make toast; ./install breakfast; |
| 18:39.51 | Dashkal | root said make? ewww... |
| 18:40.02 | jacklondon | :/ dalaran oh where art thou |
| 18:40.59 | Xuerian | Dashkal: I didn't say it was any GOOD, I just.. said it... I have that tendency |
| 18:41.21 | jacklondon | uhwhowha |
| 18:41.26 | Dashkal | fair enough then, but my eww stands :p |
| 18:42.39 | Mike-N-Go | I forget, how do I change the shell on the unix command line? |
| 18:42.50 | ShaneSveller | anyone using LibSimpleOptions know of an example usage of MakeScrollFrame I can look at? |
| 18:42.51 | Mikk | type the name of the shell that you want to run |
| 18:42.52 | Dashkal | type the name of the shell you want to switch to |
| 18:42.54 | Dashkal | too slow |
| 18:43.34 | ShaneSveller | usermod --shell <full executable path> <user name> =P |
| 18:43.48 | ShaneSveller | that's pretty distro-specific though |
| 18:43.51 | foxlit | Xuerian: So, smooth fade out upon deselecting alpha icons? |
| 18:44.15 | Dashkal | I tend to just edit /etc/passwd directly. Not actually the preferred route but it does work :p |
| 18:44.18 | erikd | who uses an install script? make install is where it's at |
| 18:44.35 | Xuerian | foxlit: When deselected, it fades to .25 (Could simply go back to 1 instead), when a slice is selected, it applies a fade similar to the scale that's applied. |
| 18:44.45 | Xuerian | This fades smoothly between select/deselect |
| 18:45.30 | Mikk | I can never remember the names of passwd tweaking tools across various distributions |
| 18:45.33 | Mikk | I don't really see the point |
| 18:45.35 | Mikk | Just edit passwd |
| 18:45.57 | ShaneSveller | isn't there just a passwd command in most? |
| 18:46.10 | Mikk | Well yeah THAT one you're kinda forced to use |
| 18:46.17 | Mikk | Unless you want to do secure hashes in your head |
| 18:46.27 | erikd | i think usermod is pretty universal |
| 18:46.29 | Mikk | I meant all the ones for adding groups, users, setting home paths, shells... blah |
| 18:46.32 | jacklondon | ffs all realms, thats ALL will be offline for ............... well its 11:46PDT and where's my damn realm! LOL |
| 18:46.33 | ZorbaTHut | I calculate md5 hashes on an abacus |
| 18:46.41 | Dashkal | IIRC usermod is POSIX standard |
| 18:46.46 | Mike-N-Go | ZorbaTHut: Really? |
| 18:46.48 | ZorbaTHut | I'd do SHA-1 but my abacus isn't large enough |
| 18:46.51 | Mikk | You guys haven't done enough AIX, clearly |
| 18:46.52 | ZorbaTHut | no I'm lying through my teeth :) |
| 18:47.09 | Mikk | Nor Ultrix |
| 18:47.11 | ZorbaTHut | I do know people who recognize the MD5 and SHA-1 hashes of the empty string, but I've never had to memorize 'em myself |
| 18:47.12 | ZorbaTHut | (yet) |
| 18:47.47 | mikma | foxlit: can i bug you with one more problem i ran into? |
| 18:47.49 | Mikk | And that doesn't do you any good for passwords anyway since they tend to be salted. So you'd have to memorize at LEAST 256 different variations :P |
| 18:47.57 | foxlit | You can always try |
| 18:48.12 | Mikk | Probably more like 64k--16M |
| 18:48.21 | erikd | is ultrix even used any more? i thiough ibm was moving toward linux as well |
| 18:48.36 | Mikk | IBM = AIX |
| 18:48.38 | Mikk | Ultrix = VAX |
| 18:48.43 | erikd | right |
| 18:48.50 | mikma | foxlit: http://pastey.net/99137 <- the link2 and link3 don't return the page to link1. any ideas why? |
| 18:49.16 | Mikk | I doubt they'll phase out AIX soon. Providing Linux as an option when shopping? Yeah that I might believe |
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| 18:52.24 | erikd | hrm, orville redenbacher died on my birthday =/ |
| 18:52.53 | Jelly-Class | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:53.05 | mikma | sounds like someone who was making mufflers for cars |
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| 18:53.34 | foxlit | mikma: the handler doesn't fire for some reason |
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| 18:54.31 | mikma | foxlit: right, right... :I |
| 18:54.32 | Mike-N-Go | I think I got it, I ran 'make local' in the lua-5.1.4 dir |
| 18:54.46 | foxlit | Because the virtual frames aren't positioned properly. |
| 18:55.04 | Jelly-Class | So I'm sitting in class and the teacher writes the assignments on the board. One of them is "Outstanding Achievement" and I got all excited, nerd style there for a minute. |
| 18:55.12 | Mikk | (Yeah, I checked, according to IBM, they have 15000 customers worldwide with Linux running on IBM boxes) |
| 18:55.14 | foxlit | You should probably fix it by putting the SimpleHTML into a ScrollFrame |
| 18:55.40 | foxlit | There's another way, sec |
| 18:56.12 | foxlit | But that's another thing they broke in 3.0 :/ |
| 18:56.17 | foxlit | mikma: try http://pastey.net/99138 |
| 18:56.23 | mikma | lol |
| 18:57.07 | mikma | foxlit: that works |
| 18:57.42 | mikma | foxlit: and i think i do need to convert it into a scrollframe anyway if i start doing long guides |
| 18:57.59 | foxlit | Yeah; that tends to revalidate itself when the children change so it shouldn't happen there. |
| 18:58.08 | nevcairiel | hm no 3.0.3 on US realms i guess? |
| 18:58.25 | erikd | i thought they were doing the ptr first? |
| 18:58.28 | jacklondon | nope |
| 18:58.40 | Brimm | next week probably |
| 18:58.50 | Brimm | (3.0.3) |
| 18:58.58 | erikd | druids get another free respec, yay |
| 18:58.59 | jacklondon | they need to figure out how their gonna nerf pallies and test it so they cant kill things anymore |
| 18:59.05 | jacklondon | lol |
| 18:59.36 | mikma | that's quite interesting, why do druids get free respec? :D |
| 18:59.41 | mikma | what has changed *that* much |
| 19:00.14 | jacklondon | the servers are running very nice |
| 19:00.37 | erikd | mikma: i was wondering the same thing but i wasn't going to question a free 50g |
| 19:00.47 | Dashkal | ooo, shadowmeld cooldown fixed and our druid last sand off of gcd. pretty |
| 19:00.57 | erikd | i like the reduction from 5 to 3 talent points, though |
| 19:00.59 | mikma | Earth and Moon and Moonfury (Balance) reduced from 5 ranks each to 3 ranks each. <- this the reason ? |
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| 19:01.06 | Dashkal | # Berserk: Now clears the cooldown on Mangle Bear. |
| 19:01.07 | Dashkal | niiice |
| 19:01.10 | Dashkal | that annoyed me |
| 19:01.21 | malreth | f***ing trojans!!! |
| 19:01.25 | malreth | damn it |
| 19:01.30 | Wikwocket | Most US realms are up now |
| 19:02.12 | Dashkal | mmm, Glyph of Aquatic Form. |
| 19:02.21 | erikd | i learned that! |
| 19:02.33 | Mike-N-Go | Now.. how do I install luadoc? |
| 19:02.53 | Dashkal | # The level requirements required to train gathering skills have been removed. |
| 19:02.57 | Dashkal | Um, wasn't that already the case? |
| 19:03.18 | Dashkal | While I had already bought my aquatic form glyph, at least now I can get my AH money back |
| 19:03.22 | ZorbaTHut | dammit, I don't want another free respec on my leveling druid, it's a lot of clicks and they didn't tweak the feral build any :P |
| 19:03.33 | Xinhuan | no isn't it lvl 5? |
| 19:03.42 | Dashkal | I'm glad for it, I wanted to move my thick hide into infected wounds :p |
| 19:03.53 | Dashkal | Xinhuan: ahh! That would make sense then |
| 19:03.54 | ZorbaTHut | infected wounds is ridiculously amazing for leveling |
| 19:04.00 | ShaneSveller | Mike-N-Go: just out of curiosity, do you use MacPorts? you could've saved some struggle there installing Lua itself. |
| 19:04.17 | ShaneSveller | ZorbaTHut: really? I didn't see it being that big a deal, maybe i overlooked something |
| 19:04.18 | Dashkal | It was accidental. I adapted a tanking spec and forgot thick hide |
| 19:04.21 | Mike-N-Go | MacPorts? What is that? |
| 19:04.38 | Xuerian | Dashkal: Talented ftw -_- |
| 19:04.46 | ZorbaTHut | shane, reducing attack speed by 20% and reducing their movement speed by 50% |
| 19:04.50 | foxlit | http://pastey.net/99142 |
| 19:04.53 | foxlit | ^^ thoughts? |
| 19:04.55 | ZorbaTHut | if something goes wrong, you just run away and they can't follow |
| 19:05.00 | ShaneSveller | fair enough |
| 19:05.12 | ZorbaTHut | and it reduces your already near-zero downtime even further |
| 19:05.13 | Dashkal | Xuerian: Never actually looked at that mod. Though it wouldn't have saved me. I was clicking away on thick hide oblivious that the points should have been moved |
| 19:05.40 | Dashkal | I'm on a PvP server. IW + dash is all I'll ever need to get the fuck away |
| 19:05.40 | ShaneSveller | Mike-N-Go: it's similar to apt-get for OSX software that you'd otherwise have to build from source, but it's much more closely related to BSD's portage stuff |
| 19:05.41 | Xuerian | Dashkal: It would've saved you. You can work up a spec in there, review it, share it, and then have Talented apply it for you when you're done |
| 19:05.58 | Dashkal | Xuerian: I did do just that by way of wowhead's calculator. This was human error |
| 19:06.10 | Xuerian | Dashkal: .. well then, you just lost the game |
| 19:06.16 | ShaneSveller | I swear by talented |
| 19:06.17 | p3lim | anyone know what OS haste runs? |
| 19:06.21 | Dashkal | No, I won the game. XKCD said so |
| 19:06.27 | foxlit | Building lua on mac is trivial anyway |
| 19:06.31 | ShaneSveller | p3lim: good question. |
| 19:06.32 | Dashkal | Still, I'll look into it. An in game calculator is pretty |
| 19:06.51 | p3lim | its *nix atleast, but i cant remember the name |
| 19:06.54 | ShaneSveller | foxlit: could've been even more so. "sudo port install lua" |
| 19:06.58 | Xuerian | p3lim: Some variation of linux. |
| 19:07.08 | Xuerian | p3lim: I'd wager Arch or gentoo |
| 19:07.16 | foxlit | make macosx && sudo make install ? :) |
| 19:07.18 | p3lim | neither i think |
| 19:07.30 | ShaneSveller | poor gentoo... /momentofsilence |
| 19:07.34 | Xuerian | Well then slack is the only other thing I'd put past him |
| 19:07.39 | Mike-N-Go | This MacPorts is like Fink, then? |
| 19:07.48 | Dashkal | ShaneSveller: poor gentoo? |
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| 19:08.29 | ShaneSveller | Dashkal: I'm pretty sure i read that they are discontinuing all further releases |
| 19:08.47 | ShaneSveller | Mike-N-Go: very similar, yeah |
| 19:09.33 | Dashkal | ShaneSveller: no mention on the front page. That's the sort of thing that should be pretty well publicized... |
| 19:09.47 | ShaneSveller | Dashkal: yeah, I see that now, I'm trying to find the source |
| 19:10.15 | Dashkal | I'm eying gentoo again for a hackery box. I just dread compiling kde again |
| 19:10.26 | Dashkal | wtb gentoo with precompiled repos... |
| 19:10.41 | ShaneSveller | Dashkal: I wanted to run a barebones server off of it a while ago when i read whatever it was that gave me the impression above |
| 19:11.14 | Dashkal | ahh. I wouldn't use gentoo for a server. Mostly because it's harder (by no means impossible) to secure and I don't monitor a server constantly |
| 19:11.36 | ShaneSveller | Dashkal: ssh on a different TCP port and iptables? |
| 19:11.48 | Dashkal | ShaneSveller: I do that with my ubuntu server/desktop |
| 19:11.56 | ShaneSveller | Dashkal: same. |
| 19:12.01 | kneeki | Good with photoshop? http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=106004#post106004 help meeee! |
| 19:12.39 | ShaneSveller | Dashkal: well, I'd laugh if it were the case but maybe I read the cancellation of the 2008.1 release as a more sweeping change in the distro's plans |
| 19:12.51 | Dashkal | The only issue I have with gentoo is there are certain packages that take prohibitively long to compile that I'd rather just install precompiled. But I still want it via emerge so I can recompile individual packages at need. |
| 19:13.07 | Dashkal | if that made sense... |
| 19:13.10 | ShaneSveller | Yeah |
| 19:13.18 | foxlit | grr |
| 19:13.41 | foxlit | "Cannot declare closure factories from insecure code" |
| 19:14.49 | mikma | wut? |
| 19:15.24 | foxlit | Just random annoyances |
| 19:16.20 | mikma | you know what's a random annoyance too? |
| 19:16.33 | mikma | the fact that i need to do a scrollframe and write all the profession-data :D |
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| 19:17.53 | Xuerian | #WoWUIDev: Venting so you don't have to. |
| 19:17.56 | foxlit | secure handlers broke calling :Click() on things while not in lockdown |
| 19:18.27 | foxlit | whereas previously, I could do securebutton:Click() while not in lockdown, it now whines about closure factories |
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| 19:22.37 | malreth | we should be whining about factory closures |
| 19:22.43 | malreth | those are american jobs that are being lost |
| 19:22.57 | malreth | and then shipped overseas, off-shored to china |
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| 19:26.56 | malreth | shit... my labs are on fire... gotta run |
| 19:27.14 | Wikwocket | ... |
| 19:28.06 | Lopeppeppy | I am hoping that he means "in deep trouble" as opposed to "someone call the fire department kthx" |
| 19:28.21 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, keep an eye on the news! |
| 19:28.25 | Arrowmaster | kamdis is gona be pissed |
| 19:28.31 | Arrowmaster | http://wowui.worldofwar.net/?p=mod&m=6655# |
| 19:28.44 | Arrowmaster | virus poster using his name |
| 19:28.49 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: It won't make local news unless it's a major disaster. :( |
| 19:28.49 | Wikwocket | And I am hoping "my labs" means "my lab homework" or something as opposed to "the building complex I am in" |
| 19:29.20 | Lunessa | Wikwocket: He manages computer labs for a university |
| 19:29.26 | Lopeppeppy | kamdis, go kick some arse. |
| 19:29.43 | Lopeppeppy | Wikwocket, he totally means physical lab space, he's in IT IIRC. |
| 19:30.46 | Lunessa | Wow... someone is totally going over-the-line... |
| 19:30.52 | haste | p3lim: Xuerian was pretty spot on. I run gentoo on one box, and arch on another |
| 19:31.06 | p3lim | ah ok |
| 19:31.22 | p3lim | arch on the laptop? |
| 19:31.36 | p3lim | or still windows ? :p |
| 19:31.36 | haste | laptop rund windows xp |
| 19:31.43 | haste | s/d/s/ |
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| 19:31.58 | haste | it doesn't have a battery however, so it just abused for minor stuff |
| 19:32.21 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, on that site, does it surprise you? But I do wonder what that person could have against kamdis |
| 19:32.38 | Lunessa | She outed them as the original poster of the trojan. |
| 19:33.17 | Lopeppeppy | Ah. *nod* Means they are reasonably up, either in here or on the WoW forums, etc. Great to know. |
| 19:33.35 | p3lim | haste: on that huge ss of your 'desktop' on the wowace server, is/was that gentoo? |
| 19:34.08 | haste | distro is irrelevant |
| 19:34.08 | p3lim | s/server/forum |
| 19:34.13 | haste | they both run the same setup |
| 19:34.26 | NeoTron | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11296678524&sid=1#14 |
| 19:34.37 | p3lim | ok |
| 19:34.37 | haste | it's wmii with custom wmiirc writtin in lua |
| 19:35.00 | p3lim | ah there it was, wmii was the word/name i was looking for :p |
| 19:36.09 | NeoTron | I would suspect this is an attempt to get the account banned |
| 19:36.32 | NeoTron | we once had a vindictive girlfriend steal one of our members login and transfer his characters off to another server |
| 19:36.36 | NeoTron | this could be a variation of that |
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| 19:37.29 | kamdis | NeoTron, seems like |
| 19:37.42 | kamdis | Or someone who's daddy cancelled his wow account |
| 19:37.48 | bleeter | prolly just a straight up hacked account |
| 19:38.03 | kamdis | doubtful |
| 19:38.12 | kamdis | since the person is replying to people directly |
| 19:38.14 | NeoTron | hacked accounts usually don't make personal comments |
| 19:38.15 | Jelly-Class | Has WoWUI done anything about it? (I refuse to go to that site, period) /tinfoilhat |
| 19:38.17 | kamdis | insinuating he's me |
| 19:38.28 | kamdis | no |
| 19:38.29 | bleeter | i mean to say, this guy's distributing trojans... /shrug |
| 19:38.30 | Jelly-Class | No one can be you! <3 |
| 19:38.39 | kamdis | he even posted that he's me on wowui |
| 19:38.47 | bleeter | and don't seem to care if that account's banned, etc. |
| 19:39.07 | Xuerian | p3lim: HAHA, I win :p |
| 19:39.19 | Dashkal | Prolly posting on the account of some schlop who downloaded his trojan |
| 19:39.28 | kamdis | true |
| 19:39.30 | bleeter | kamdis: I guess the plus side is that the only place they've been able to commit the fraud is wowui ;) |
| 19:39.37 | Dashkal | Hopefully without a proxy so he gets his ass banned properly |
| 19:39.41 | kamdis | Oh I don't really care |
| 19:39.52 | kamdis | I mean, anyone who knows me knows it's not me. |
| 19:39.57 | Xuerian | p3lim: What is this SS you speak of though? |
| 19:40.01 | kamdis | And if Kam gets hate mail ,whatever |
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| 19:40.36 | Jelly-Class | If Kam gets hate mail, that's just a hit-list! :) |
| 19:40.44 | p3lim | Xuerian: http://www.beverpung.net/images/nix/2007-10-23_1680x1050_scrot.png |
| 19:41.18 | Xuerian | great furry jesus |
| 19:41.26 | Xuerian | mutliple desktops ftw >.> |
| 19:41.57 | zenzelezz | that URL is... o_O |
| 19:42.35 | ShaneSveller | works fine for me |
| 19:43.12 | haste | old screenshot is old D: |
| 19:43.41 | Antiarc | Does wowui run an IRC channel? |
| 19:43.43 | ShaneSveller | yeah. wtb 3 more 22" to hook up on my SLI 8800's |
| 19:44.24 | ShaneSveller | lol that image is still loading over work's leased line... |
| 19:44.53 | haste | it's only 5.9M or so |
| 19:44.56 | haste | but the host is utter shit |
| 19:45.01 | ZorbaTHut | sigh. fighting for 2 minutes, not able to figure out why I'm doing basically zero damage |
| 19:45.05 | ZorbaTHut | weaponskill 1 aww jeah |
| 19:45.12 | haste | going to move it over to ixo as soon as I care to do the DNS updates |
| 19:45.23 | haste | and finish my gallery app |
| 19:46.00 | ShaneSveller | haste: whatcha coding that in? |
| 19:46.14 | Atriace | ~seen Shirik |
| 19:46.16 | purl | shirik <n=skullsho@conspiracy/developer/Shirik> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 2h 21m 4s ago, saying: 'and the realm name is "SE450 CVS Repository"'. |
| 19:46.16 | haste | PHP sadly enough :( |
| 19:46.42 | haste | I could just deploy danbooru, but that wouldn't give me much room for solutions I would only like |
| 19:47.03 | Jelly-Class | ~seen Shirik|AFK |
| 19:47.04 | purl | shirik|afk is currently on #wowprogramming #norganna #wowuidev #wowace. Has said a total of 22 messages. Is idling for 1h 38m 56s, last said: 'gotta run, sorry'. |
| 19:47.04 | Xinhuan | Antiarc: they used to, their IRC server shutdown 2 years ago |
| 19:47.21 | Xinhuan | and Antiarc |
| 19:47.22 | bleeter | haste: which WM are ya using there? |
| 19:47.33 | haste | bleeter: wmii, with a custom wmiirc-lua |
| 19:47.33 | Xinhuan | that guy might target Omen3 as the next upload because of you and me lol |
| 19:48.36 | bleeter | haste: ah, thought it might've been some Ion variant, I guess I was kinda right ;) |
| 19:48.57 | haste | bleeter: in a way yes, ion is vastly different however :p |
| 19:49.33 | Lyn | up and down and up and down and dance :x |
| 19:49.43 | Mike-N-Go | Whoot, "sudo port install lua" did the trick. |
| 19:49.52 | haste | I personally prefere wmii over xmonad, awesome3, dwm and ion3 |
| 19:50.15 | haste | it's all because wmii has stacking, and isn't really a true tiling WM tho' :p |
| 19:50.29 | Mike-N-Go | Now.. to install luadoc and its dependency, luafilesystem.. |
| 19:50.46 | bleeter | haste: I suppose, and I mean this in as neural way as possible, one thing the others have going for them is not Valkonen ;) |
| 19:51.05 | haste | bleeter: finnish insanity on its best! |
| 19:51.11 | bleeter | hehe |
| 19:51.34 | haste | I avoided ion3 only because of him |
| 19:52.51 | bleeter | one of the pidgin guys fiddled with ion3/pidgin lua bridge of some type, then afiak gave up 'coz of him |
| 19:53.29 | haste | why make it ion3 only? |
| 19:53.44 | haste | ion3, awesome3 and wmiirc-lua all run on lua |
| 19:54.11 | bleeter | 'coz he started the thing ... years.. ago ;) |
| 19:54.43 | haste | when valkonen was as his top I guess |
| 19:54.49 | Antiarc | Xinhuan: He used Omen as the payload for the first one, so.... |
| 19:55.03 | Xinhuan | well yes, you mean the exe? ;p |
| 19:55.08 | Mike-N-Go | What is this about Omen? |
| 19:55.10 | bleeter | think at the time Ion was the only 'working' tiling manager |
| 19:55.10 | Xinhuan | but he didn't upload it as omen |
| 19:56.01 | Jelly-Class | Antiarc: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11296502462&postId=112954957760&sid=1#0<-- |
| 19:56.24 | Jelly-Class | Sorry if you've already seen that... i'm trying to pay attention in class. lol |
| 19:56.38 | Xinhuan | Jelly-Class: #6635 goes to a blank page hehe |
| 19:56.42 | Xinhuan | it was removed sometime ago |
| 19:57.43 | Xinhuan | if you click on "view all posts by this user" |
| 19:57.46 | Antiarc | Thanks, Jelly-Class |
| 19:57.49 | Xinhuan | it makes you wonder if that guy's account is hacked |
| 19:57.59 | Antiarc | Xinhuan: I suspect it's someone personally targeting him |
| 19:58.02 | Antiarc | Rather than a keylogger |
| 19:58.04 | Jelly-Class | same |
| 19:58.08 | Antiarc | Friend he pissed off or something |
| 19:58.56 | Antiarc | I have to reboot. Back in a sec. |
| 19:59.25 | Jelly-Class | okies |
| 19:59.29 | Wikwocket | Am I crazy or is PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED no longer firing in 3.0.x? |
| 19:59.38 | bleeter | GM's are about, I've mentioned 'it' in the GM off-topic thred. with any luck, they'll get on the ol' dog-n-bone to the FMs ;) |
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| 20:03.07 | bleeter | tho given the shizz the GM forum's put up with over the past week, I doubt they will as they hve enough on their hands dealing with their own forum atm :( |
| 20:03.36 | Jelly-Class | going home. talk to you guys in a bit. <3 |
| 20:03.39 | Jelly-Class | ~hug ckknight |
| 20:03.39 | purl | ACTION jumps into ckknight's lap and huggles and *hugs* ckknight |
| 20:04.44 | Dashkal | lol: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/11296569108-please-cancel-the-expansion.html |
| 20:04.48 | Dashkal | Dunno why, but this amuses me |
| 20:05.35 | linear` | how do i get uniframes to work with clique |
| 20:05.38 | linear` | do i register anydown? |
| 20:05.41 | bleeter | Dashkal: there was some guy in US CSF forum yesterday asking for 3.0.2 to be rolled back |
| 20:06.29 | Dashkal | oh that doesn't surprise me. There's a whole contingent that wants the last patch before 2.0.X and to just leave the servers that way for all time. |
| 20:07.05 | Lunessa | Dashkal: That rocks. "No." and "Locking since this thread has been resolved." |
| 20:07.20 | Dashkal | :p |
| 20:08.09 | Lunessa | It's like I once said to guild mates who wanted mass meetings and votes for every guild decision, "No." |
| 20:08.37 | Dashkal | It's about the only appropriate answer |
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| 20:09.16 | Dashkal | I like our guild system. Top rank gets one vote each. (There's about 6 of us) |
| 20:09.29 | Dashkal | And the GL can veto, but rarely does. |
| 20:09.47 | Dashkal | Making it a free for all vote would be a nightmare |
| 20:11.56 | Lunessa | I concur. |
| 20:13.00 | Dashkal | Of course what with WotLK in weeks, there isn't anything to decide on for a month at least |
| 20:13.52 | Dashkal | The most significant thing coming is the decision to stick with /roll or dump it. We intend to follow the 10 man path right to Arthas. /roll + don't-be-a-dick works. Perhaps not optimal, but it does work |
| 20:14.32 | Lunessa | Dashkal: Yes, it works until you have a couple of dicks. The trick is recognizing them and getting rid of them. |
| 20:14.39 | Dashkal | yep |
| 20:15.00 | Dashkal | But we're casual/raiding, so that type doesn't tend to stay long anyway |
| 20:15.28 | Lunessa | Yeah. That's what mine used to be, but it's since gone the way of the dodo bird. |
| 20:15.30 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_102108_230700.jpg <- cool, ain't it? |
| 20:15.47 | Dashkal | Oh god murlocs! |
| 20:17.11 | Lunessa | Get them! Get them before they get to the children! |
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| 20:26.50 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_102108_232438.jpg and http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_102108_232444.jpg |
| 20:27.17 | NightHawkTheSane | dude, since when does Faerie fire do damage. thats hot |
| 20:27.35 | Dashkal | NHTS: *blink* |
| 20:28.34 | Dashkal | Where'd you get that? |
| 20:28.42 | NightHawkTheSane | what do you mean? |
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| 20:29.02 | Hjalte | NightHawkTheSane: It does damage in bear form, yeah? |
| 20:29.04 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm in game, right now |
| 20:29.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Hjalte: yeah |
| 20:29.16 | Hjalte | It was to help bears with their pull |
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| 20:29.40 | Dashkal | huh, missed that |
| 20:29.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Hjalte: i seriously never noticed that until just now |
| 20:30.12 | Hjalte | I'm not even a feral druid. You guys need more mmo-champion :) |
| 20:30.36 | Dashkal | I missed that post apparently |
| 20:30.43 | NightHawkTheSane | dude, i usually watch it like a hawk, but i must have missed that |
| 20:30.59 | NightHawkTheSane | (no pun intended) |
| 20:31.55 | Dashkal | :p |
| 20:32.53 | mikma | HEY people! what's the place in Un'goro, located at 48.6? it has lvl75 mobs in there |
| 20:33.12 | Dashkal | That the north end? Part of a sholazar quest |
| 20:33.14 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: lol, it's a quest location for a quest in sholazar |
| 20:33.26 | Dashkal | Consider it part of northrend. For all intents and purposes it is |
| 20:33.35 | mikma | k |
| 20:33.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Dashkal: except for the fact that it's physically part of azeroth. :P |
| 20:33.42 | Lunessa | DO WANT: http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/10/new-macbook-mac.html |
| 20:33.49 | Dashkal | NightHawkTheSane: obviously :p |
| 20:34.18 | NightHawkTheSane | i actually think it's really awesome the way they link ungoro and sholazar like that |
| 20:34.20 | Dashkal | NightHawkTheSane: but given that it can _only_ be accessed by that waygate, about the only actual connection to azeroth is that it's a one-way shortcut if you need to get to that part of kalimdor |
| 20:34.21 | mikma | shirik: Message: ...ace\AddOns\Blizzard_AuctionUI\Blizzard_AuctionUI.lua line 1171: attempt to concatenate local 'highBidder' (a nil value) |
| 20:34.31 | Dashkal | Agreed there |
| 20:34.36 | Shirik | do you have a stack trace for that? |
| 20:34.42 | Mike-N-Go | ckknight: How do I use luadoc? |
| 20:34.54 | ckknight | luadoc --help |
| 20:35.04 | mikma | shirik: http://pastey.net/99158 |
| 20:35.19 | ckknight | Lunessa: mine arrives in a few days. |
| 20:35.29 | ckknight | Mike-N-Go: it's mostly just luadoc *.lua |
| 20:35.38 | Lunessa | .. /envy |
| 20:35.53 | Mike-N-Go | The command luadoc is not found in -bash. |
| 20:35.58 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: indeed. >< wtb.. |
| 20:36.03 | Mike-N-Go | I think I installed it correctly |
| 20:36.16 | Mike-N-Go | Got the dependences installed, too. |
| 20:36.20 | NeoTron | Lunessa: I want a new Mac Pro model |
| 20:36.20 | NightHawkTheSane | i might consider buying one.. if i can actually get a job sometime soon >< |
| 20:36.28 | NeoTron | so I don't hav eto upgrade to a windows box |
| 20:36.49 | Lunessa | MacBook Pro is the one for which I lust. So sexy. |
| 20:37.28 | ckknight | Lunessa: I upgraded mine, though, so couldn't get it at the store, I got the 2.8 GHz CPU and the 7200 RPM HDD |
| 20:37.43 | NeoTron | I want a computer without screen and which isn't portable.. :P |
| 20:37.49 | Lunessa | ckknight: sweet. That box out to rock your socks. |
| 20:39.15 | Kaelten | DO WE HAVE ANY MODERATORS FROM WOWUI.INCGAMERS HERE? |
| 20:39.33 | Dashkal | I see you got wind of the "WAU" upload... |
| 20:39.38 | Kaelten | yep |
| 20:39.41 | Kaelten | and I'm pissed |
| 20:39.45 | Kaelten | they tried to upload it earlier |
| 20:39.47 | Kaelten | to CF |
| 20:39.50 | Kaelten | and we blocked it |
| 20:40.07 | AckisWork | ribbit |
| 20:41.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Not the first time they've pissed people off |
| 20:42.10 | p3lim | good starter *nix? |
| 20:42.22 | NightHawkTheSane | mac os x. :D |
| 20:42.24 | Daemona | ubuntu |
| 20:42.25 | p3lim | -.- |
| 20:42.38 | p3lim | something a little bit more 'hardcore' than ubuntu |
| 20:42.46 | Daemona | debian |
| 20:42.48 | Mike-N-Go | ckknight: Where does the output default to? |
| 20:42.50 | leethal | oh hai, internet. Is there a sphere mod for shammies around for wotlk? |
| 20:42.52 | leethal | totemus is out, no? |
| 20:42.55 | NightHawkTheSane | p3lim: gnu |
| 20:43.02 | ckknight | Mike-N-Go: makes html files. |
| 20:43.22 | p3lim | NightHawkTheSane: gnu? |
| 20:43.43 | Dashkal | p3lim: you want 'starter' and 'hardcore'? Define hardcore as you mean it, cause I'd put those on either end of a spectrum |
| 20:44.04 | Slakah | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:44.16 | NightHawkTheSane | p3lim: GNU/Linux, http://www.gnu.org/links/links.html#FreeGNULinuxDistributions |
| 20:44.17 | Kaelten | go all out and do gentoo |
| 20:44.26 | p3lim | been using winxp and ubuntu for a long while now |
| 20:44.34 | Mike-N-Go | Yay. It works. |
| 20:44.36 | NightHawkTheSane | or, if you really want to be hardcore.. compile your own kernel and roll your own distro. |
| 20:44.42 | p3lim | lol |
| 20:44.45 | p3lim | not that hardcore |
| 20:45.07 | Dashkal | gentoo then |
| 20:45.11 | p3lim | thanks for the link tho' |
| 20:45.21 | p3lim | gentoo is mostly terminal right? |
| 20:45.25 | p3lim | or is there any GUI? |
| 20:45.26 | Dashkal | nah |
| 20:45.28 | Mike-N-Go | Tho 'luadoc' command is not found. |
| 20:45.28 | krka | you want something that's hard just for the sake of being hard? O_o |
| 20:45.34 | Dashkal | gentoo can do kde just fine |
| 20:45.36 | krka | ubuntu is a nice debian distro imo |
| 20:45.41 | Dashkal | or gnome for that matter (though I've never tried it) |
| 20:45.44 | p3lim | krka: exactly! I want a challenge |
| 20:45.45 | Mike-N-Go | I had to do "/opt/local/lib/luarocks/bin/luadoc /Applications/World\ of\ Warcraft/Interface/AddOns/LibSimpleOptions-1.0/LibSimpleOptions-1.0.lua" |
| 20:45.45 | ScytheBlade1 | ubuntu sucks |
| 20:45.46 | ScytheBlade1 | ^______^ |
| 20:45.46 | NightHawkTheSane | p3lim: er.. almost any linux distro will support a full on GUI if you install it |
| 20:46.10 | p3lim | ok i think ive misunderstood something |
| 20:46.14 | Mike-N-Go | I wonder what that is about.. |
| 20:46.15 | p3lim | do i need more than just the os? |
| 20:46.24 | Dashkal | p3lim: if you want hard for the sake of hard, go gentoo. Just make sure you have time to kill. Compiling things like OpenOffice, KDE, GNOME, etc. Takes time |
| 20:46.28 | NightHawkTheSane | you really never NEED more than just the OS for any linux distro. :P |
| 20:46.59 | p3lim | but why get KDE/Gnome etc? |
| 20:46.59 | Dashkal | You will be forced to learn all sorts of internal crap if you want to take advantage of gentoo. |
| 20:47.02 | p3lim | software packs? |
| 20:47.12 | p3lim | Dashkal: yay |
| 20:47.18 | p3lim | learning terminal as we speak |
| 20:47.22 | p3lim | well.. some parts of it atleast |
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| 20:47.50 | Dashkal | When I used gentoo I was using kde for my desktop. But a terminal is always right at hand. I can't live without it |
| 20:47.51 | NightHawkTheSane | if all you want to do is learn the ins and outs of linux on a CLI level, you don't need to get a special distro to do that |
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| 20:48.11 | NightHawkTheSane | you just need to actually spend time in terminal using it. |
| 20:48.40 | Dashkal | gentoo will ... not so much force as encourage you to pay attention to things like dependancies, kernel features, compile-time flags and the like |
| 20:48.58 | Mike-N-Go | ckknight: Any idea what would prevent the 'luadoc' command from working? |
| 20:49.11 | ckknight | what error are you getting? |
| 20:49.19 | ScytheBlade1 | ckknight: look at his invocation |
| 20:49.30 | Dashkal | emerge is a pretty good package tool. And if left alone will do its job near as well as aptitude/apt-get. But if you _want_ to fuck with the gears, emerge is much more acomidating |
| 20:49.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Mike-N-Go: you don't have /opt/local/lib/luarocks/bin in your path |
| 20:49.30 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGSOs2pJEsY WIN, WIN, WIN!!! |
| 20:49.44 | Mike-N-Go | ScytheBlade1: What path? |
| 20:50.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Mike-N-Go: your shell path. run 'echo $PATH' and you'll see what I mean |
| 20:50.23 | Mike-N-Go | prompt$ luadoc->-bash: luadoc: command not found |
| 20:50.24 | Thunder_Child | oh wow.... http://www.columbinegame.com/ |
| 20:50.35 | Dashkal | p3lim: to give the example of why I loved gentoo. With gentoo/emerge, I used to have tweaks in my repository that would let me patch projects at whim. I was using that to rewire stratagus to look elsewhere for its data files. Took a source patch to do it *shakes fist* |
| 20:50.43 | p3lim | Thunder_Child: nice find |
| 20:50.52 | Thunder_Child | not really >.< |
| 20:50.57 | p3lim | :p |
| 20:51.04 | Dashkal | I gave it up because I got pissed at the time it takes to compile _everything_ |
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| 20:51.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Dashkal: less crappy CPU imo |
| 20:51.31 | Mike-N-Go | Oh, that what it said about editing the config file, I guess. |
| 20:51.34 | p3lim | gonna have it on a laptop i just found |
| 20:51.40 | p3lim | a decent laptop tho' |
| 20:51.41 | Dashkal | ScytheBlade1: I don't have an octa-core. And you pretty much need one to compile OOo or KDE in any reasonable ammount of time |
| 20:51.48 | p3lim | can play wow with half full shadows np |
| 20:51.57 | p3lim | (on vista) |
| 20:52.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Dashkal: KDE was made 1000x easier/faster to compile with 3.5 builds. OOo sucks regardless. |
| 20:52.13 | mikma | whee! whole version! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0rBeoOiV1c |
| 20:52.19 | Dashkal | Mind yuo OOo in particular is probably easier to simply download, unzip, and use |
| 20:53.28 | Dashkal | If the box is intended as single-user, that's far and away the simplest approach to open office |
| 20:53.58 | Mike-N-Go | ScytheBlade1: To add it to my path, I would do " setenv PATH $PATH\:/opt/local/lib/luarocks/bin", yes? |
| 20:54.19 | Thunder_Child | ~vs Shirik Seerah |
| 20:54.20 | purl | in a one on one showdown, Seerah wins. |
| 20:54.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Mike-N-Go: that's one possible way, sure |
| 20:54.42 | p3lim | whatever that bird is on, pass it along please! |
| 20:54.55 | Mike-N-Go | ScytheBlade1: What would you recommend? |
| 20:55.15 | Mike-N-Go | Is there a better way? |
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| 20:55.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Mike-N-Go: it depends on your shell (bash, sh, tcsh, etc) |
| 20:55.33 | Mike-N-Go | I'm in bash, currently. |
| 20:55.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I would edit the file ~/.bashrc |
| 20:55.59 | ScytheBlade1 | And at the end, add: |
| 20:56.15 | ScytheBlade1 | export PATH=$PATH:/opt/local/lib/luarocks/bin/ |
| 20:56.31 | ScytheBlade1 | That way it'll take effect every time you open up a new terimnal/shell |
| 20:56.37 | Mike-N-Go | Out of curiosity, what is the difference? |
| 20:56.51 | ScytheBlade1 | In the syntax or putting it in a file vs. just typing it? |
| 20:57.28 | Mike-N-Go | I do not know, I have not done this with the command line before. |
| 20:57.38 | ScytheBlade1 | What's your question exactly? |
| 20:58.10 | Mike-N-Go | Google gave me " setenv PATH $PATH\:/opt/local/lib/luarocks/bin" and you, what you said. |
| 20:58.45 | ScytheBlade1 | there's no functional difference between 'setenv' and 'export' in this context |
| 20:58.52 | Mike-N-Go | And I do not have a .bashrc. |
| 20:59.01 | ScytheBlade1 | I say put it in ~/.bashrc instead of just typing it, because that way every time you open a new terminal |
| 20:59.04 | ScytheBlade1 | It'll set the path |
| 20:59.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Make one |
| 21:00.06 | ScytheBlade1 | If you don't put that in ~/.bashrc, when you close out |
| 21:00.08 | ScytheBlade1 | That setting will be lost |
| 21:00.19 | ScytheBlade1 | When you put it in ~/.bashrc |
| 21:00.25 | Mike-N-Go | Ahh, I see. I would have to type out "setenv PATH $PATH\:/opt/local/lib/luarocks/bin" for each window I want to do luadoc on, if I did it that way? |
| 21:00.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Every time bash is started, that will be read and added |
| 21:00.36 | ScytheBlade1 | right |
| 21:00.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Or you could just put it in .bashrc |
| 21:00.45 | ScytheBlade1 | And tada! |
| 21:00.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Done for you every time you start bash |
| 21:01.04 | Mike-N-Go | I'll do what you said. |
| 21:02.20 | kamdis | AbsoRayne: ping |
| 21:07.47 | Daemona | anybody got an idea how to track down the culprit of me having problems with zooming in mapster? |
| 21:08.23 | Daemona | e.g. i am in shattrat -> zoom out to outlands -> want to zoom out further -> it snaps me back to shattrath |
| 21:08.36 | Daemona | or i zoom out -> click on shadowmoon valley -> it snaps me back to shattrath |
| 21:08.43 | Mike-N-Go | ScytheBlade1: Got it working. Had to put "PATH=$PATH\:/opt/local/lib/luarocks/bin ; export PATH" in file ~/.bash_profile |
| 21:08.58 | Mike-N-Go | ScytheBlade1: Thank you for the direction. |
| 21:09.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Shells are funny |
| 21:09.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Sure |
| 21:09.17 | Mike-N-Go | I am on Mac OSX, yourself? |
| 21:09.28 | ScytheBlade1 | everything :) |
| 21:09.34 | Mike-N-Go | All at once? |
| 21:09.37 | ScytheBlade1 | linux, openbsd, windows, the works |
| 21:09.42 | Mike-N-Go | How about presently? |
| 21:09.53 | ScytheBlade1 | linux with access to all of the above in about three seconds |
| 21:10.49 | Mike-N-Go | Well.. I wanted to add a Blizzard Interface Options to my addon, and here I am with luadoc installed a few hours latter.. |
| 21:11.15 | Dashkal | Here's one for nostalgia: http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/10/21/197238 (MUDs turn 30) |
| 21:12.43 | Tekkub | this whole virus on wowui thing amuses me to no end |
| 21:15.33 | AckisWork | Tekkub: ditto |
| 21:16.10 | Tekkub | speaking of... http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=14718 |
| 21:16.12 | NeoTron | like his latest comment |
| 21:16.33 | AckisWork | ;p; |
| 21:16.35 | AckisWork | err |
| 21:16.36 | AckisWork | lol |
| 21:17.33 | NeoTron | I had over 2y played in one mud |
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| 21:18.37 | Darknebulah | Hello |
| 21:18.51 | Darknebulah | Hello everyone |
| 21:18.52 | AckisWork | i got dested on the mud I played on |
| 21:19.07 | Dashkal | I think I hit something near a year total time, but that's over four muds |
| 21:19.33 | Dashkal | Ackis: That downloader post is win |
| 21:19.35 | NeoTron | I made wizard in at least one other lpmud and also played a diku mud |
| 21:19.43 | Darknebulah | I have an advanced question or 2 about autioneer. Is this the right channel to ask those? |
| 21:19.54 | AckisWork | lol thanks Dashkal |
| 21:20.08 | Anaral | Darknebulah: You can ask here or in #norganna |
| 21:20.23 | Dashkal | I hit staff in three muds that I can think of offhand. |
| 21:20.29 | Anaral | #norganna is the official irc for Auctioneer. :) |
| 21:20.39 | Dashkal | One of them actually used "Wizard" but I didn't last long there. Too conservative |
| 21:20.45 | Darknebulah | alright ill try there first i hope they are active :) |
| 21:20.49 | NeoTron | actually I made wizard in 3 LDMUD's, two which I coded in |
| 21:21.17 | NeoTron | one of them is still active today |
| 21:21.38 | Dashkal | I forget the acronym of the one I hit wizard in. I do remember one epic facepalm where I really impressed them by actually using the object oriented language in an OO way |
| 21:22.09 | Dashkal | I was assigned a task (they were assessing my skill) to make a full set of armor and to have a set bonus. So I wrote three objects. |
| 21:22.56 | Dashkal | I probably could have dropped it to two (spawner, armour) but three made it easier. My tester hadn't even considered actually reusing objects with type flags tweaked |
| 21:22.56 | NeoTron | I made a room generating system that loaded the environment from a data file instead of manually creating each room |
| 21:23.16 | Dashkal | I considered that something of a bad sign... |
| 21:23.38 | NeoTron | it's like with wow addons. a lot of people have no clue what they are doing :PO |
| 21:23.50 | Dashkal | :p |
| 21:24.25 | p3lim | ok, gentoo it is |
| 21:24.37 | p3lim | found this site: http://torrent.gentoo.org/ |
| 21:24.47 | p3lim | should i pick one by the brand of my laptop? |
| 21:24.56 | krka | gentoo is like debian, only you spend more time compiling than doing stuff |
| 21:25.20 | p3lim | got no idea which to download |
| 21:25.31 | Dashkal | krka: he's going with the difficult one for the sake of having it be difficult. Learning excercise |
| 21:25.43 | Dashkal | p3lim: I get a page load error at that address |
| 21:26.02 | krka | i'm just saying that gentoo may not necessarily be more difficult, just more time consuming :) |
| 21:26.10 | p3lim | s/torrent/torrents |
| 21:26.30 | NeoTron | I find gentoo to be easier in many ways |
| 21:26.35 | NeoTron | ...but more time consuming :P |
| 21:26.38 | p3lim | but where to find a download? |
| 21:26.42 | Dashkal | p3lim: ahh. Read the install guide. You need to make a decision |
| 21:26.51 | Dashkal | the stage you choose has some implications |
| 21:27.04 | Dashkal | (earlier stages mean compiling more of the system by hand) |
| 21:28.22 | Dashkal | that said, you probably won't go with with an install-<arch>-universal.2008.0 disc |
| 21:28.27 | Dashkal | won't go wrong with |
| 21:28.42 | p3lim | iso file of just 75mb? :p |
| 21:29.04 | Dashkal | the livecd-<arch>-installer-2008.0-r1 isn't a bad choice either |
| 21:29.18 | Dashkal | p3lim: it's a minimal image. Just enough to get on the network and that's it. |
| 21:29.26 | Dashkal | The real download comes when you start emerging shit |
| 21:29.27 | p3lim | oh |
| 21:29.31 | p3lim | where do i get a full one? |
| 21:29.34 | Dashkal | livecd |
| 21:29.46 | p3lim | doesnt that mean run on the cd? |
| 21:29.54 | Dashkal | that too |
| 21:29.59 | p3lim | i dont want that |
| 21:30.03 | p3lim | want to install it |
| 21:30.09 | Dashkal | no no no, that _too_ |
| 21:30.17 | Dashkal | as in it has the packages _and_ a live image |
| 21:30.27 | Dashkal | a nifty installer too iirc |
| 21:30.27 | mikma | ubuntu <3 |
| 21:30.31 | End | That's a strange trick |
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| 21:30.36 | End | from hellfire... |
| 21:30.41 | End | the water in terrokar is green |
| 21:30.44 | End | like...fel green |
| 21:30.49 | AbsoRayne | kamdis: pong |
| 21:30.49 | mikma | i was able to install it as rw in 1gb usb stci.. bootable =) |
| 21:30.50 | p3lim | Dashkal: ok |
| 21:31.08 | Dashkal | p3lim: I might be out of date on this one. Trying to apply what I learned about two years back |
| 21:31.13 | p3lim | mikma: how? then i can save discs :) |
| 21:31.19 | p3lim | im shit with iso files |
| 21:31.19 | Dashkal | So I strongly suggest you read the install guide |
| 21:31.50 | mikma | p3lim: there is some good advices in interet. try google "ubuntu live usb" |
| 21:32.26 | p3lim | found it |
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| 21:32.56 | Dashkal | p3lim: as for the iso files, your ubuntu install almost certainly has a burning program you can just load the iso into to make a real bootable disc |
| 21:33.17 | p3lim | using win atm |
| 21:33.26 | p3lim | the comp with ubuntu broke down 3 weeks ago |
| 21:33.31 | Dashkal | ahh |
| 21:33.47 | Dashkal | My knowledge of windows free(bear) burning programs is near zero |
| 21:33.51 | Dashkal | beer* |
| 21:34.02 | Xuerian | isoburn |
| 21:34.07 | Xuerian | er |
| 21:34.08 | Xuerian | imgburn |
| 21:34.27 | Xuerian | imgburn wins the game, |
| 21:34.30 | Xuerian | and I fail. |
| 21:34.36 | Dashkal | About a decade back I got my dad to burn my first linux iso and have used linux to burn the next one ever since |
| 21:34.37 | p3lim | http://mirror.gentoo.no/releases/x86/2008.0/livecd/ |
| 21:34.50 | p3lim | whats the diffrence between r1 and the normal one? |
| 21:35.01 | Dashkal | revision 1 |
| 21:35.02 | End | r1 eats babies |
| 21:35.11 | Xuerian | Oh lord he's getting you into gentoo? |
| 21:35.17 | Dashkal | Xuerian: *cackles* |
| 21:35.21 | haste | Xuerian: no I'm not |
| 21:35.30 | haste | I don't give a crap about what other people use |
| 21:35.32 | Xuerian | run while you still have some sanity |
| 21:35.36 | Dashkal | Xuerian: the irony here is I moved from gentoo to ubuntu to make life simpler a couple years back |
| 21:35.37 | haste | neither do I recommend distros |
| 21:35.52 | Xuerian | haste: I know you're too good to do that to anyone :p |
| 21:35.57 | p3lim | im in for a challenge :) |
| 21:36.05 | Dashkal | Xuerian: What actually happened is p3lim asked for a 'hard' distro to learn. |
| 21:36.08 | haste | I happen to like gentoo, with portage replaced by paludis :( |
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| 21:36.17 | Xuerian | lol, alright, fair enough (both) |
| 21:36.41 | haste | but I'm not bound to any distro, neither do I care to argument why I use distro X :P |
| 21:36.44 | p3lim | hm i guess gentoo is the hardest distro? |
| 21:36.49 | haste | no |
| 21:36.50 | Xuerian | ... |
| 21:36.50 | mikma | p3lim: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_USB |
| 21:36.50 | Xuerian | No. |
| 21:36.57 | haste | it's a moot point regardless |
| 21:37.04 | p3lim | mikma: i found some docs on the gentoo site |
| 21:37.22 | p3lim | is it one of the harder tho? |
| 21:37.24 | mikma | the trick is to modify the livecd settings so it can also write |
| 21:37.30 | mikma | default is they are readonly |
| 21:37.47 | p3lim | mikma: gonna install it to the comp anyways |
| 21:37.49 | Xuerian | p3lim: As I understand it, it's very hands on. Or terminal on, if you like |
| 21:37.59 | mikma | p3lim: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ |
| 21:38.01 | haste | Dolby: I hate to ask, but do you have any ETA on the revised portal stuff? |
| 21:38.20 | mikma | now i have linux hanging in my keychain :) |
| 21:38.27 | p3lim | haste: the tot issue with tags, is that due the PTU event? |
| 21:38.30 | mikma | only needs a pc that can boot from usb |
| 21:38.51 | haste | p3lim: no, it's due to there being no code to do polling, and there won't be with the current tag system |
| 21:38.53 | p3lim | mikma: most comps can do that |
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| 21:39.06 | haste | p3lim: it's really intended for the time being |
| 21:39.09 | p3lim | haste: will you do something about that soon though? |
| 21:39.10 | mikma | p3lim: ... that's the reason why i have the usb-linux |
| 21:39.17 | p3lim | :p |
| 21:39.25 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_102108_232444.jpg PARTY PARTY! |
| 21:39.59 | p3lim | didnt know the biscuits worked on those 'preview' companions too :o |
| 21:40.40 | mikma | we didn't know either until my friend threw one at them |
| 21:40.45 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_102108_230700.jpg |
| 21:40.59 | p3lim | hehe |
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| 21:41.07 | p3lim | got lurky myself |
| 21:41.11 | p3lim | imba companions |
| 21:41.36 | mikma | he has gurky, as seen in the last paste :P |
| 21:41.53 | p3lim | bleh, any medium difficulty linux versions? |
| 21:42.12 | p3lim | you guys speak of gentoo like its a monster, getting a bit scared im putting too much on myself |
| 21:42.20 | mikma | try ubuntu before you look something else |
| 21:42.30 | p3lim | been using ubuntu for a good while now |
| 21:42.32 | mikma | it's one of the easiest to setup |
| 21:42.37 | p3lim | looking for something a bit more challenging |
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| 21:42.53 | mikma | well look at the http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ |
| 21:44.23 | NightHawkTheSane | So. I'm sitting here sending off resumes to various companies. And I get a call from one such compnay, not 15 minute after I sent them my resume. Now, i must say, that's response. |
| 21:44.27 | mikma | debian also is one option |
| 21:44.46 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Haha, what kind of company? |
| 21:45.00 | p3lim | mikma: didnt find debian on that site |
| 21:45.17 | Xuerian | why go from ubuntu to debian? |
| 21:45.29 | Xuerian | It's like dating your gf's mom |
| 21:45.30 | mikma | xuerian: he wanted a tad more advanced |
| 21:45.33 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: eh, just a recruiting company, so i'm not -terribly- surprised, but still. |
| 21:45.34 | *** join/#wowuidev ievil (n=asys@codemonkey.isd.no) |
| 21:45.38 | mikma | THERE! you just said it |
| 21:45.44 | mikma | dating your gf's mother is more advanded. |
| 21:45.50 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: what if my gf's mom is hot? |
| 21:45.50 | mikma | advanced* |
| 21:45.59 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Still a step up, in most cases :P |
| 21:46.06 | ievil | "date both" |
| 21:46.07 | Xuerian | You also have to deal with the gf... |
| 21:46.13 | Xuerian | Your name fits, ievil. |
| 21:46.19 | mikma | xuerian: multiboot. ever heard of one :D |
| 21:46.20 | ievil | hehe |
| 21:46.23 | p3lim | mikma: i wanted it a tad easier than gentoo |
| 21:46.24 | ievil | "invisible evil" |
| 21:46.27 | p3lim | not harder :p |
| 21:46.28 | ievil | is what it stands for ;) |
| 21:46.31 | Xuerian | mikma: Lulz. |
| 21:46.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: well, ill take any callbacks at this point, so i'm not complaining. I need a job. >< |
| 21:46.36 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: X.x |
| 21:47.04 | Xuerian | p3lim: You have a 64bit processor?s |
| 21:47.04 | mikma | p3lim: http://www.tuxs.org/chooser/ |
| 21:47.12 | p3lim | 32bit |
| 21:47.20 | ievil | I got a few 64bit ones |
| 21:47.31 | ievil | if anyone need something tested |
| 21:47.36 | Xuerian | Well I can't really talk |
| 21:47.40 | Xuerian | I *started* on slack >_> |
| 21:47.46 | Xuerian | Didn't last long, but hey, I got it working |
| 21:47.51 | *** join/#wowuidev Tuller (n=muffins@c-76-27-160-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 21:47.58 | Xuerian | waay back, though XD |
| 21:48.00 | p3lim | it said Debian or Slackware |
| 21:48.01 | mikma | xuerian: me too :O it was running the server i was admin at :P |
| 21:48.16 | mikma | 1998 was the year |
| 21:48.24 | NightHawkTheSane | debian's a solid distro, i always liked it. but really, going from ubuntu to debian is.. a little sill |
| 21:48.25 | NightHawkTheSane | silly |
| 21:48.31 | ievil | I've never liked debian |
| 21:48.32 | Xuerian | mikma: Wasn't QUITE that long ago :p. I think it was in 2003 or so |
| 21:48.45 | Xuerian | So not way back <_< |
| 21:48.46 | ievil | used linux since 93ish |
| 21:49.14 | ievil | Ubuntu atleast seems more handleable than deb itself |
| 21:49.33 | mikma | we did steal the hdd from the cousin of my friend just to test linux out :D 1995+ |
| 21:49.34 | ievil | We run gentoo on 95% of our n*x servers |
| 21:50.13 | ievil | + some FreeBSD, AIX and SLES |
| 21:50.47 | mikma | lol i was just about to say NetBSD or FreeBSD for p3lim |
| 21:50.53 | Xuerian | lol |
| 21:54.42 | clad|away | Hrm |
| 21:55.04 | clad|away | Glyph of Possessed Strength and Glyph of Blurred Speed |
| 21:55.06 | clad|away | >< |
| 21:55.06 | p3lim | http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1820683 < much time wasted imo |
| 21:55.10 | clad|away | WHY NO AQUATIC FORM OR THORNS? |
| 21:55.15 | Andand | NoooO! My secret identity is ruined ;( |
| 21:55.36 | mikma | hide it as a joke |
| 21:55.38 | mikma | like we all do |
| 21:55.48 | mikma | like: /m industrial damn that clad|away is stupid |
| 21:55.58 | clad|away | I've made about 800g |
| 21:56.01 | mikma | then like "lol just kidding!" |
| 21:56.03 | NightHawkTheSane | clad|away: blurred speed sold reasonably well for me. |
| 21:56.11 | clad|away | NightHawkTheSane: its dropped on RC |
| 21:56.17 | clad|away | but 25g each still |
| 21:56.25 | NightHawkTheSane | *nod* not bad. |
| 21:56.38 | NightHawkTheSane | most of the minors have dropped down to under 50g each on whisperwind. >< |
| 21:56.47 | mikma | clad|away: the aquatic form glyph might be pretty imba :D haven't tested it yet tho |
| 21:56.51 | NightHawkTheSane | I was selling water shield glyphs for >150 for a little while. /cry |
| 21:56.56 | clad|away | hehe |
| 21:57.12 | clad|away | 32g for water shield. |
| 21:58.44 | clad|away | scare beast sold the best fo rme before it dropped |
| 21:58.45 | clad|away | 45g |
| 21:59.19 | NightHawkTheSane | i don't have that one. :( |
| 21:59.30 | p3lim | is there an easy way to set afk status on irc? |
| 21:59.40 | NightHawkTheSane | I picked up Frost Armor today, i'm hoping that sells well |
| 21:59.40 | Xuerian | p3lim: Hahaha that's awesome. |
| 21:59.47 | p3lim | Xuerian: ;) |
| 22:00.01 | NightHawkTheSane | p3lim: /away :P |
| 22:00.08 | p3lim | hm |
| 22:00.11 | p3lim | doesnt change anything |
| 22:00.24 | p3lim | im running xchat tho |
| 22:00.27 | mikma | yes it did |
| 22:00.30 | mikma | it set you as away |
| 22:00.35 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ |
| 22:00.39 | p3lim | ugh |
| 22:00.40 | p3lim | cant see that |
| 22:00.46 | p3lim | normal again now? |
| 22:00.48 | Mike-N-Go | It just says, "You have returned from away." I never left! |
| 22:01.05 | p3lim | odd |
| 22:01.15 | Codex| | for the outland angler achievment, i cant find any information on "school of darter" |
| 22:01.17 | mikma | well try '/away i am not here' |
| 22:01.21 | Codex| | el's extreme anglin doesnt have it listed as a pool |
| 22:01.26 | Codex| | and neither does wowhead |
| 22:01.28 | mikma | usually /away returns you and /away reason makes you go away |
| 22:01.31 | Mike-N-Go | Ahh |
| 22:02.14 | Hirsute | Codex|: No idea. |
| 22:02.18 | Codex| | n vmd! |
| 22:02.41 | Xuerian | Holy shit, I <3 Aquatic form glyph |
| 22:02.51 | Kirov | what's it do? |
| 22:02.53 | mikma | xuerian: i got it on my druid but haven't tested it yet :D |
| 22:03.00 | Xuerian | 50%+ swim speed |
| 22:03.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Kirov: +50% speed |
| 22:03.22 | *** join/#wowuidev WobWork (n=Wobin@203-206-178-228.perm.iinet.net.au) |
| 22:03.27 | Kirov | oh wow |
| 22:03.35 | Kirov | Nice minor glyph |
| 22:03.41 | Xuerian | Will prolly be nerfed like warlock requirements glyphs |
| 22:03.51 | mikma | like rogue sprint glyph |
| 22:03.56 | Kirov | I like my penguin polymorph glyph |
| 22:04.27 | Codex| | when i hand in my fishing daily, the "care of meat" icon is a white square |
| 22:04.30 | Kirov | I want to put in the penguin glyph and the bear cub glyph, but I don't know if it'll random between them or one will override. |
| 22:04.30 | Codex| | the barrel of fish is ok tho |
| 22:04.37 | mikma | codex|: me too |
| 22:04.38 | Codex| | i have restarted my client, and it was like that yesterday |
| 22:04.45 | kamdis | Rayne, I pinged you about http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11296528565&sid=1 |
| 22:04.48 | mikma | codex|: i thought my data was fucked |
| 22:04.59 | Codex| | sane |
| 22:05.01 | Codex| | same* |
| 22:05.07 | Codex| | but usually in games its pink or green for missing texture |
| 22:05.20 | mikma | ya :I |
| 22:05.28 | Codex| | dont know what this white box is |
| 22:05.49 | kneeki | Codex|: Probably a texture that should be transparent |
| 22:06.04 | Codex| | which is covering the icon? |
| 22:06.08 | Codex| | or the icon should be transparent |
| 22:06.27 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_102108_234056.jpg |
| 22:06.41 | kneeki | Oh, hum... |
| 22:06.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Codex|: do you have any addons that add a texture or model to the loot window at all? |
| 22:06.47 | kneeki | Yeah, I'm not sure |
| 22:06.55 | Codex| | nope |
| 22:07.02 | Codex| | yea mikma mines the samwe |
| 22:07.04 | Codex| | same* |
| 22:07.10 | mikma | i have VendorBait |
| 22:07.14 | Codex| | same |
| 22:07.21 | Codex| | i havent tried disabling vendorbait |
| 22:07.22 | mikma | but it adds a border to most expensive item from questreturn |
| 22:07.24 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, try updating it |
| 22:07.24 | Codex| | at that window |
| 22:07.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Try updating VendorBait |
| 22:07.40 | mikma | tekkub: any known problems with VendorBait? |
| 22:07.44 | Codex| | assuming that the curse client is better at what it does than i think it is, it shud be updated |
| 22:07.45 | mikma | tekkub: like, http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_102108_234056.jpg |
| 22:07.59 | Tekkub | fixed :P |
| 22:08.00 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: yes, there ARE, which is why he updated it :P |
| 22:08.20 | Codex| | tekkub: |
| 22:08.20 | Codex| | 3.0.1.1-Beta? |
| 22:08.26 | Codex| | oops at the newline |
| 22:08.52 | Codex| | why did curse client not update vendorbait |
| 22:08.56 | Codex| | i run it like 6 times a day |
| 22:09.06 | NightHawkTheSane | >.> wow, that's not excessive at all |
| 22:09.29 | mikma | what does the curse client do? |
| 22:09.33 | Codex| | suck |
| 22:09.53 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: its an updator for mods on curse. |
| 22:10.00 | NightHawkTheSane | updater* |
| 22:10.05 | Codex| | it doesnt handle wowinterface updates |
| 22:10.07 | Codex| | which is my beef |
| 22:10.08 | mikma | mmkay :P i just try to get all the addons from svn/git and use an update.sh once a day |
| 22:10.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Codex|: yeah, largely because curse and wowi are different sites. :P |
| 22:10.28 | Hirsute | I actually haven't had too many problems with the curse client recently. |
| 22:10.30 | Codex| | whats a good updater that handles wowi |
| 22:10.36 | NightHawkTheSane | there isn't one. |
| 22:10.43 | Codex| | ouch |
| 22:10.45 | Gryphen | wowi has one |
| 22:10.48 | Hirsute | It doesn't always find addons that are *on* Curse, but finding them via my browser and clicking "Install via Client" works. |
| 22:10.52 | clad|sleep | NightHawkTheSane: except there is... |
| 22:10.53 | mikma | did i show you this one before? http://junk.kegetys.net/suihku-irc.jpg |
| 22:10.54 | clad|sleep | and has been for a long time |
| 22:10.55 | ievil | lol think our server just died |
| 22:11.06 | NightHawkTheSane | clad|sleep: okay, let me rephrase. there isn't one that doesn't suck. :p |
| 22:11.16 | Mike-N-Go | Awsome |
| 22:11.17 | Codex| | clad: which |
| 22:11.19 | clad|sleep | I have no problems wiht the wowi updater.. |
| 22:11.20 | Mike-N-Go | AV is bugged |
| 22:11.39 | Codex| | which is the wowi updater? |
| 22:11.44 | NightHawkTheSane | clad|sleep: *shrug* It's never worked for me, and Shirik doesn't even suggest using it, so :P |
| 22:11.48 | clad|sleep | Codex|: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8239-WoWInterfaceUIManager-Windows.html |
| 22:11.51 | Mike-N-Go | We all have Preparation, no flags are out; just awesomeness. |
| 22:11.56 | Codex| | oh, yea |
| 22:11.58 | Codex| | i tried that |
| 22:12.03 | Codex| | and it outdated all my mods |
| 22:12.10 | Codex| | and didnt even have an "update button" |
| 22:12.13 | Mike-N-Go | And no counter for reinforcements |
| 22:12.15 | Codex| | and didnt find my addons :/ |
| 22:12.24 | clad|sleep | you didn't folloow the directions |
| 22:12.26 | clad|sleep | set favorites |
| 22:12.34 | clad|sleep | and it really does work as you'd expect. |
| 22:12.43 | Codex| | alright lemme try it out |
| 22:13.04 | NightHawkTheSane | clad|sleep: for me, it always threw errors trying to download my favorites. *shrug* but meh, im okay with updating manually |
| 22:13.15 | clad|sleep | i update manually as well |
| 22:16.11 | *** join/#wowuidev Adys (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 22:16.21 | Codex| | clad: its trying to update every wowi addon there is, not just the ones i havem and each one is suspended |
| 22:16.31 | Codex| | how do i get it to just install mine? and not show me all 9 million |
| 22:16.54 | Codex| | wait, |
| 22:16.55 | *** join/#wowuidev Dolby (n=Dolby@MMOI/Administrator/Dolby) |
| 22:16.55 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Dolby] by ChanServ |
| 22:16.57 | Gnarfoz | also, I'm not using the wowi favorites as a mirror of what addons I have installed. I have way more addons as favorites than I actually have installed :> |
| 22:16.58 | Codex| | thikn i got it, sec |
| 22:17.00 | clad|sleep | it only looks at those that are your favorites |
| 22:17.12 | Codex| | you mean favorites on the website |
| 22:17.13 | Codex| | or? |
| 22:17.23 | Gnarfoz | or what |
| 22:17.38 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 22:17.40 | clad|sleep | yes, favorites on wowi |
| 22:17.41 | Codex| | favorites within the program? |
| 22:17.43 | Codex| | dang |
| 22:17.48 | clad|sleep | at least thats how it should work |
| 22:17.50 | clad|sleep | heh |
| 22:18.00 | Codex| | i do not set favorites, because wua always handled updating installed mods for me |
| 22:18.03 | clad|sleep | I sleep now |
| 22:18.35 | Codex| | so i shud set the UID of 200 mods :/ |
| 22:19.26 | clad|sleep | Lol i'm immune to trick of treat "Treats" when I'm shapeshifted |
| 22:19.26 | clad|sleep | that's win |
| 22:19.27 | clad|sleep | :P |
| 22:19.37 | *** join/#wowuidev kamdis (i=405f8902@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-70fe9c43f0b305ac) |
| 22:19.46 | NightHawkTheSane | man, i love the daily show |
| 22:19.54 | Codex| | clad: any way to set it to update all of the addons in the addons folder? |
| 22:20.04 | NightHawkTheSane | no |
| 22:20.27 | NightHawkTheSane | as clad said, it only looks at mods that you have set as a favorite on wowinterface |
| 22:20.29 | *** join/#wowuidev Atriace (n=omnizeta@188.118.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 22:20.30 | clad|sleep | Codex|: no, its not WAU |
| 22:20.42 | cogwheel | how do you turn off server synchronization? |
| 22:20.49 | cogwheel | (for ui settings) |
| 22:21.07 | clad|sleep | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/cvars/synchronizeSettings |
| 22:21.11 | clad|sleep | edit the page while you're there. |
| 22:21.14 | clad|sleep | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/cvars |
| 22:21.51 | Codex| | it shouldnt be hard to write a script to go through all my addons and add them as favorites... |
| 22:22.04 | Codex| | but ive been wrong before lol |
| 22:22.46 | kamdis | cog: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11162847363&sid=1&pageNo=2#34 |
| 22:23.45 | clad|sleep | kamdis: those don't exist in this build as far as I can tell |
| 22:23.47 | clad|sleep | that's 3.0.3 |
| 22:23.53 | clad|sleep | otherwise they'd be on the CVar listing |
| 22:23.57 | clad|sleep | oh, the first line says it, gotcha :p |
| 22:24.09 | clad|sleep | wanted to make sure I wasn't going nuts. |
| 22:26.13 | kamdis | hehe nope, just giving him another reference, though, i'm sure he knew it was there anyway |
| 22:28.14 | *** join/#wowuidev pb_ee1 (n=nospam@bgn92-4-82-238-214-117.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 22:29.07 | *** join/#wowuidev pb_ee1_ (n=nospam@bgn92-4-82-238-214-117.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 22:30.57 | pb_ee1 | ~kick Adys |
| 22:30.58 | purl | ACTION kicks Adys |
| 22:31.05 | Adys | ~whalekiss pb_ee1 |
| 22:31.05 | purl | ACTION makes hugh the formerly male whale give pb_ee1 a kiss |
| 22:31.11 | pb_ee1 | ~dodge Adys |
| 22:31.12 | purl | at the last second pb_ee1 dodges out of the way of Adys's malicious and unprovoked attack. |
| 22:31.12 | linear` | what does the asterick mean on self:SetAttribute("*type-heal", "spell") |
| 22:31.53 | linear` | for a secureactionbutton |
| 22:33.17 | mikma | lunessa: but i can give you a snap! http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/snap.jpg |
| 22:33.18 | cogwheel | ~nap Lunessa |
| 22:33.19 | purl | ACTION gives Lunessa an extra strength ACME sleeping pill, sending Lunessa to sleep for 150 years, and awakening to seven strange dwarfs and a large apple. |
| 22:33.53 | Lunessa | Whoa! Free apple! |
| 22:40.15 | Mike-N-Go | WSG is stuck.. |
| 22:40.42 | End | transfer aborted instance not found? |
| 22:40.43 | End | :) |
| 22:40.59 | ievil | yea same for Turalyon EU |
| 22:41.14 | zenzelezz | was just about to do Scholo achievement >.< |
| 22:41.15 | End | I can do regular bot, but not heroic :P |
| 22:41.27 | End | I zone in, oh wait, not set to heroic |
| 22:41.38 | End | zone out then I joke "I bet it won't work now" |
| 22:41.38 | kamdis | someone needs to change dwarves to gnomes though |
| 22:41.45 | zenzelezz | the people who manage to zone in on my realm get empty instance |
| 22:41.46 | zenzelezz | s |
| 22:41.48 | End | GG, I zone in and hey, loading screen is stuck |
| 22:42.20 | kamdis | thanks :) |
| 22:42.21 | Thunder_Child | ~fail kamdis |
| 22:42.21 | purl | You suck at everything in life, kamdis. I hate you because you fail. |
| 22:42.37 | End | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 22:42.37 | purl | beats the living hamstercrap out of Thunder_Child |
| 22:42.39 | kamdis | screw you , purl |
| 22:42.47 | Thunder_Child | ~dodge End |
| 22:42.47 | purl | at the last second thunder_child dodges out of the way of End's malicious and unprovoked attack. |
| 22:43.13 | kamdis | stupid bots :-( |
| 22:43.21 | kamdis | it hurt my FEELINGS |
| 22:43.28 | ievil | ~fail purl |
| 22:43.29 | purl | purl, you Fail! |
| 22:43.32 | kamdis | lol |
| 22:43.32 | Thunder_Child | ~feelings |
| 22:43.33 | purl | ACTION cries |
| 22:45.04 | Thunder_Child | ~tears |
| 22:45.10 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 22:45.20 | Adys | ~QQ |
| 22:45.20 | purl | dpkg: touch me there agian and I'll scream! |
| 22:45.31 | kamdis | lol "agian" |
| 22:45.40 | Thunder_Child | ~qq Adys |
| 22:45.40 | purl | CRY MOAR Adys |
| 22:45.44 | Adys | give him a break, he types fast |
| 22:45.46 | Adys | can typo ! |
| 22:51.49 | mikma | ~typo |
| 22:51.50 | purl | well, typo is when someone tries to type really fast without knowing what he is actually doing.... so he makes typing mistakes, or rm -rf / |
| 22:52.04 | mikma | riiiiiiiiight |
| 22:52.26 | |Jelly| | So is Kamdis still a keylogger spreader or has it been fixed? |
| 22:53.18 | mikma | whats kamdis? |
| 22:53.48 | Hirsute | ~Kamdis |
| 22:53.51 | Xinhuan | hmm is addon hosting soliciting via wowi private messages allowed? |
| 22:54.55 | *** join/#wowuidev Sangi (n=Sangi@adsl-074-180-078-094.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) |
| 22:55.01 | Xinhuan | Subject: Hosting your mod | Body:"Hello, I am working for Canal Jeux Video who will put a WOW section on our website. As addons are a great part of WOW gaming, we implement the idea of hosting the more downloaded. Can i have your email to see how we can work together ?" |
| 22:55.19 | Xuerian | .. |
| 22:55.24 | Syzgyn | Canal Jeux Video? |
| 22:55.25 | Xuerian | "GTFO MY INBOX" |
| 22:55.31 | Xinhuan | i have no idea wtf that is |
| 22:55.41 | bleeter | canal's a french cable tv company, iirc |
| 22:55.51 | bleeter | so my guess is it's french gaming foo thing |
| 22:55.52 | Syzgyn | http://www.canaljeuxvideo.com/ |
| 22:55.52 | mikma | ~google canal jeux video |
| 22:56.02 | p3lim | gnite |
| 22:56.09 | bleeter | jeux being the french word for 'game' |
| 22:56.34 | Xinhuan | google gave me http://www.canaljeuxvideo.com/ |
| 22:56.38 | Xinhuan | but i don't speak french |
| 22:57.03 | Xinhuan | maybe someone can take a look (if u speak french!) |
| 22:57.12 | mikma | well they want to use your addons in their wow demonstration |
| 22:57.13 | bleeter | renault |
| 22:57.21 | mikma | peugeot |
| 22:57.49 | Syzgyn | so its a french vimeo/youtube? |
| 22:58.15 | mikma | lets see what translate says |
| 22:58.16 | bleeter | probably... canal's a pretty big company |
| 22:58.24 | Dotted | Adys knows surely |
| 22:58.34 | Syzgyn | Why would they want to host addons though? |
| 22:58.42 | bleeter | Xinhuan: oddly enough, Canal's owned by Vivendi |
| 22:58.49 | bleeter | Xinhuan: so, I'd suspect it's quite legit etc. ;) |
| 22:58.52 | Xinhuan | uh what? |
| 22:58.58 | Adys | that looks like a videogame youtube |
| 22:59.05 | Syzgyn | And why would they ask for your email if they're already in contact with you o.O |
| 22:59.16 | bleeter | assuming it's related to Canal+ |
| 22:59.16 | Xinhuan | they sent that via wowinterface forum PM |
| 22:59.22 | Syzgyn | Right |
| 22:59.28 | Syzgyn | so why not just keep using that? |
| 22:59.33 | Xinhuan | i'm not quite sure if hosting soliciting is allowed like that |
| 22:59.56 | mikma | xinhuan: http://translate.google.fi/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.canaljeuxvideo.com/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dcanal%2Bjeux%2Bvideo%26hl%3Dfi%26sa%3DG |
| 23:00.15 | Gnarfoz | since when is google translate worth shit |
| 23:00.15 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.16 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 23:00.41 | NightHawkTheSane | heh, the last panel of this is awesome: http://www.darklegacycomics.com/161.html |
| 23:01.02 | mikma | oh wow, i like the logo http://www.canaljeuxvideo.com/images/future.jpg |
| 23:01.10 | Xinhuan | i didn't know google does perfect translations now |
| 23:01.34 | mikma | http://www.jhcomputer.net/kuvat/sonera-logo.jpg |
| 23:01.44 | *** join/#wowuidev Kandoko (n=Testing@adsl-068-159-119-207.sip.gsp.bellsouth.net) |
| 23:02.04 | kamdis | No they are denying that the files are even on the site |
| 23:02.10 | kamdis | but the page is still there |
| 23:02.15 | bleeter | yeah, I can't sy for certain but it really does look like a Canal+ thing. WOuld make sense, they own the cable, provide inet access nd some gme foo |
| 23:02.17 | kamdis | with the comments. |
| 23:02.38 | bleeter | Xinhuan: sorry, my French is pretty bad, well out of practice |
| 23:02.38 | mikma | oh, kamdis was a person here |
| 23:02.45 | kamdis | yes hello :) |
| 23:02.56 | kamdis | and i do not spread keyloggers |
| 23:03.00 | bleeter | kamdis: you're a figment of your own imagination ;) |
| 23:03.10 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 23:03.20 | *** join/#wowuidev Matrix110| (i=Matrix11@pD957F0BB.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:03.21 | kamdis | the stupid guy who posted them up wrote in comments that if anyone had questions about the infected downloads, to contact me |
| 23:03.33 | kamdis | lol, bleeter, sometimes i wish i were |
| 23:04.02 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Lol, agreed |
| 23:04.47 | *** join/#wowuidev vithos (n=vithos@unaffiliated/vithos) |
| 23:06.42 | mikma | kamdis: so you are internet famous now! |
| 23:06.49 | mikma | enjoy |
| 23:06.53 | kamdis | for being a keylogging bastard? |
| 23:06.56 | kamdis | GREAT |
| 23:06.58 | kamdis | lol |
| 23:07.03 | mikma | =D |
| 23:07.14 | kamdis | honestly I wish Atalicus would just calm the eff down |
| 23:07.37 | kamdis | but then, it's her/his UI compilation that's infected |
| 23:07.38 | mikma | well who cares if they say you spread keyloggers |
| 23:07.45 | kamdis | I don't, really. |
| 23:07.53 | mikma | good |
| 23:08.01 | kamdis | though I will not be surprised if Kam gets hate mail in game. |
| 23:08.10 | kamdis | thank goodness she's not my main. |
| 23:08.14 | mikma | coz you could have said that you spread a STD ln the duded and now hes mad |
| 23:08.20 | Syzgyn | Where is this thread so I may partake in the dramaz? |
| 23:08.35 | mikma | in that dude* |
| 23:08.53 | mikma | tiredtyping with miniminikeyboard rouls ok |
| 23:09.14 | kamdis | Looks like it actually finally got deleted by a mod |
| 23:09.34 | NightHawkTheSane | This is good, i'm alternating beween "A character with that name already exists" and "You have been disconnected from the server" errors. wee. |
| 23:09.35 | kamdis | Yeah, and the guy's posts are gone from the other thread too. |
| 23:09.55 | mikma | apparently someone likes you |
| 23:10.06 | kamdis | Syzgyn this is one, but not the original: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11296629004&sid=1 |
| 23:10.12 | bleeter | mikma: LIES! ;) |
| 23:10.39 | mikma | bleeter: just trying to get the hope up before we crush it |
| 23:10.40 | Lunessa | cogwheel: ur teacher haz sex leg? geif! |
| 23:10.57 | mikma | sex whatwhaaaat? |
| 23:11.11 | mikma | screenshot or it didnt happen |
| 23:11.29 | |Jelly| | kamdis: is that layman enough for that eepanel guy? Seriously ... gradients are the EASIEST THING to do in eeP. |
| 23:11.29 | kamdis | There's a DK on beta named Tsexleg. Makes me laugh every time I see it. |
| 23:11.44 | kamdis | That was way more than I would have ever done for him. |
| 23:11.52 | kamdis | You have completed your "nice" qota for the day |
| 23:11.57 | kamdis | *quota |
| 23:12.21 | |Jelly| | Well, I was already doing it before reading his response and didn't really want to waste what little time I did put in to it. |
| 23:12.41 | |Jelly| | I bet the fact that I have a different border and background texture, even though I warned him about it, throws him off. |
| 23:13.22 | AbsoRayne | Great. Instance servers down again. |
| 23:13.29 | AbsoRayne | Im beyond tired of this. -_- |
| 23:14.01 | kamdis | Rayne, tell the guy how to change fonts in your UI. |
| 23:14.10 | AbsoRayne | what guy |
| 23:14.18 | kamdis | Did you replace the main fonts by overwriting them? |
| 23:14.24 | AbsoRayne | Nope |
| 23:14.35 | kamdis | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11296528565&sid=1 |
| 23:14.38 | kamdis | well, then NM |
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| 23:14.44 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 23:14.48 | kamdis | because i told him to go into addons one by one and change them |
| 23:15.00 | kamdis | ~comfort Kaelten |
| 23:15.01 | purl | There, there, Kaelten. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 23:15.09 | AbsoRayne | -_- people are just too lazy |
| 23:15.15 | AbsoRayne | OMG I CANT LOOK TELL MEEEEE |
| 23:15.55 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 23:16.01 | Xuerian | Just as I get in a HH group too |
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| 23:17.16 | mikma | ~tryme |
| 23:17.17 | purl | ACTION spins the revolver, points it at mikma and fires. Click. |
| 23:17.39 | p3lim | for gentoo up and running on my laptop now :) |
| 23:18.06 | mikma | good. now you can shoot yourself with ~tryme |
| 23:18.07 | Xuerian | I heard somewhere that you're not a real gentoo user unless you compile your own kernel |
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| 23:18.13 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 23:18.14 | p3lim | :D |
| 23:18.21 | p3lim | im not a real user |
| 23:18.27 | p3lim | im a newb user |
| 23:18.49 | p3lim | btw is it normal to have this amount of log spam during the boot of live discs? |
| 23:19.04 | kd3 | yes |
| 23:19.24 | kd3 | just to help with any troubleshooting since it's difficult to turn stuff on from a CD |
| 23:20.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Who has the links to the usual "wowmatrix is bad" mantra? |
| 23:21.02 | ScytheBlade1 | It's spreading, and I want to kill it with fire without too much effort |
| 23:21.12 | Syzgyn | Someone should make a WoWMatrix is Bad YTMND |
| 23:21.30 | NeoTron | ScytheBlade1: good luck. next, can you stop SPAM too? |
| 23:21.32 | AbsoRayne | Look son! Its one of natures most beautiful sights! The convoy! |
| 23:21.35 | NeoTron | chance of success is about the same |
| 23:21.46 | Lunessa | Everytime you use WoWMatrix, God kills a kitten. Please, think of the kittens. |
| 23:21.52 | ScytheBlade1 | That's wht I said "mantra" instead of "magic fix" |
| 23:21.54 | bleeter | Syzgyn: yes, you should |
| 23:21.56 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18358 |
| 23:22.14 | Cairenn | ScytheBlade1: ^^ |
| 23:22.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: yeah I clicked the wrong thing when I went to copy and closed the window on accident there :P |
| 23:22.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Thanks |
| 23:22.55 | Cairenn | no worries |
| 23:23.09 | kamdis | Most of my guild uses it, despite my imploring them. |
| 23:23.24 | kamdis | Bowever, they've gotten some jacked up version lately, so they are starting to listen. |
| 23:23.27 | kamdis | *Howeer |
| 23:23.31 | kamdis | damn it! |
| 23:23.57 | cogwheel | ~hug kamdis |
| 23:23.58 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs kamdis |
| 23:24.18 | AbsoRayne | kamdis: The worst part about that post is, if he wouldve read my Compilation Details, all the commands for everything but TipTop is there. :/ |
| 23:24.35 | kamdis | I know, Rayne. |
| 23:24.51 | kamdis | people (the general people) are dumber than doornails. |
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| 23:26.21 | AbsoRayne | I wonder if I can get the new PitBull to work for me |
| 23:27.18 | ievil | AbsoRayne, works nicely for me |
| 23:27.37 | AbsoRayne | ievil: It didnt even show up for me yesterday when I DLd it :/ |
| 23:27.52 | AbsoRayne | Just threw errors, and didnt even have config options |
| 23:28.09 | NeoTron | isn't the only reason people are up in arms against wowmatrix because it has ads, and thusly a source of income? |
| 23:28.28 | NeoTron | because wowmatrix doesn't steal bandwidth. it's the end user that downloads stuff, just like with WUU or JWU |
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| 23:29.06 | NeoTron | or is it because wowmatrix has a pre-made index of addons that's the issue, combined with the ads where JWU for example requires you to manually add addons? |
| 23:30.15 | vithos | WUU has a database too, though it's used differently |
| 23:30.30 | ZorbaTHut | neotron, it depends on who you talk to :P |
| 23:30.33 | NeoTron | I haven't use WUU in a long while since I found it sucked way back when |
| 23:30.39 | ScytheBlade1 | They use other site's bandwidth for the raw files and nothing more |
| 23:30.50 | vithos | it's still pretty buggy today |
| 23:30.53 | ScytheBlade1 | So they mooch and mooch and mooch and give 0 back, while pulling in money on their own |
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| 23:31.05 | NeoTron | ScytheBlade1: no they don't. wowmatrix doesn't use the bandwidth. the end user does. |
| 23:31.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes, yes I know |
| 23:31.18 | NeoTron | ScytheBlade1: so your issue is the ads? |
| 23:31.20 | ZorbaTHut | I wouldn't say they give nothing in return |
| 23:31.23 | ScytheBlade1 | "they" would be the program |
| 23:31.24 | ZorbaTHut | they give a working automatica updater |
| 23:31.25 | Dotted | WTB Killing WowMatrix for Dummis :3 |
| 23:31.30 | Codex| | when are they removing he mask achievment from the hallows end title |
| 23:31.31 | Dotted | *Dummies |
| 23:31.32 | Codex| | 3.0.3? |
| 23:31.33 | End | how does wowmatrix figure out where to download the addons? |
| 23:31.56 | ScytheBlade1 | NeoTron: my issue is that they're mooching pricks. |
| 23:32.21 | bleeter | NeoTron: wowmatrix bypasses the author's own revenue gathering efforts, thus whether it's the end user or wowmatrix.. someone's ripping someone off for bandwidth fees ;) |
| 23:32.24 | Hirsute | ZorbaTHut: Doesn't give anything back to the addon developer, costs them any ad revenue they'd have gotten from the user, and makes their own money instead. |
| 23:32.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Hirsute sums it up nicely. |
| 23:32.51 | ZorbaTHut | hirsute, *shrug* I already don't get any ad revenue or money :P |
| 23:32.53 | Hirsute | Refuses to completely remove addon authors that don't want to be updated via their tool |
| 23:32.54 | NeoTron | bleeter: oh revenue? I didn't know I had any! |
| 23:32.57 | ZorbaTHut | it's hard to say |
| 23:32.59 | Xuerian | Generally the addon hosting site, but revenue nontheless |
| 23:33.03 | ScytheBlade1 | ZorbaTHut: the sites you host with do |
| 23:33.12 | p3lim | but i cant get it on net :/ |
| 23:33.14 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, well, I don't |
| 23:33.16 | Xuerian | (They're not the authors) |
| 23:33.17 | NeoTron | authors have revenue |
| 23:33.19 | bleeter | NeoTron: just because you don't, doesn't mean that other's don't as well. |
| 23:33.21 | p3lim | this laptop sucks, aint got a screen on it |
| 23:33.25 | NeoTron | and wowi etc get no ad revenue from me because I use adblock |
| 23:33.26 | ScytheBlade1 | ZorbaTHut: would *you* like to host QuestHelper all on your lonesome? With wowmatrix pulling straight from your site? |
| 23:33.31 | p3lim | gotta swap sources on my main screen(s) |
| 23:33.46 | NeoTron | ScytheBlade1: I would gladly host my addons myself and have them provided by wowmatrix |
| 23:33.55 | Hirsute | WoWmatrix, plain and simple, doesn't play nicely with Addon developers. |
| 23:33.55 | ZorbaTHut | as I said, it's hard to say. if anyone else provided a working unified updater, it'd be different, but they don't |
| 23:34.03 | ScytheBlade1 | NeoTron: and eat the bill yourself? You're getting -nothing- back |
| 23:34.09 | ZorbaTHut | scythe, no, first off I'd block wowmatrix in any one of a dozen possible ways |
| 23:34.10 | NeoTron | sure I am |
| 23:34.14 | Xuerian | ZorbaTHut: WUU works. I believe JWU works too. |
| 23:34.16 | NeoTron | I getting users, which after all is my goal |
| 23:34.24 | ZorbaTHut | and second I'd provide a small library framework to update efficiently, and offer it to wowmatrix in return for a cut of the cash |
| 23:34.25 | NeoTron | I have a dedicated server that easily could handle hosting my addons |
| 23:34.35 | ZorbaTHut | I really don't know why people don't do diff-based updating. |
| 23:34.47 | ScytheBlade1 | This debate is old and tired. |
| 23:34.53 | Hirsute | How would you recommend blocking Matrix? I don't know that anything consistenly unique shows up about the updater, does it? |
| 23:34.56 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10871018107&sid=1&pageNo=1#1 |
| 23:34.57 | Xuerian | And you're still debating, sbo :p |
| 23:35.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Read. I'm done already. |
| 23:35.02 | AbsoRayne | http://hdimage.org/images/963jbwo3g7q5ji1p28c_ocrnhot102108193035.jpg Heres what the new PitBull does for me! |
| 23:35.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Xuerian: and as of *now* I'm done :) |
| 23:35.19 | Xuerian | The only sensible thing :) |
| 23:35.22 | ZorbaTHut | hirsute, watch for a webpage requested by the same addon. change the download URL frequently. require a get POST with a unique datastring, stored in javascript |
| 23:35.28 | Xuerian | Until they come up with "Bitchslap of Sense thru Net" |
| 23:35.38 | ZorbaTHut | there's many ways |
| 23:35.52 | ZorbaTHut | add a small captcha for the base download |
| 23:36.05 | ZorbaTHut | and half the time the captcha is "STOP USING WOWMATRIX" |
| 23:36.06 | ZorbaTHut | ;) |
| 23:36.29 | Hirsute | Or, someone could just beat them until they finally start playing nicely. |
| 23:36.48 | Xuerian | Less legally defensible :P |
| 23:36.48 | p3lim | now i see the messages |
| 23:37.54 | ZorbaTHut | wonder when curse is gonna get around to that author rewards program |
| 23:38.25 | NeoTron | the main problem of course is that the addon sites don't provide an alternative that is as good as wowmatrix, nothing more |
| 23:38.31 | Xuerian | I wouldn't guess too soon, but I suppose some of the updater features count, ZorbaTHut |
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| 23:38.46 | NeoTron | the insistance in making the updaters worse in interest of revenue means you open the door for this |
| 23:38.47 | ZorbaTHut | xuerian, I don't like or trust their updater :P |
| 23:38.48 | Xuerian | NeoTron: The posts on WoWI say why not, but I agree nontheless |
| 23:38.55 | ZorbaTHut | plus it's not as good as either WUU or Wowmatrix ;) |
| 23:39.06 | NeoTron | I don't not mean necessarily cross-site either |
| 23:39.09 | Xuerian | AbsoRayne: oUF ftw |
| 23:39.20 | vithos | ZorbaTHut: i think people don't do diff base updating because they're more interested in the ad dollars than the issue of paying for bandwidth |
| 23:39.46 | ZorbaTHut | vithos, but curse wants everyone to use the curse client |
| 23:39.49 | kamdis | Rushter finally replied to the trojan thread on wowui forums |
| 23:39.50 | ZorbaTHut | they could still show ads with that |
| 23:40.00 | kamdis | "this happens a lot on all sites" |
| 23:40.03 | NeoTron | and rather than reducing the cost of serving addon updates (diffs, better compression algorithms etc), the course is to make the program less usefulk |
| 23:40.18 | vithos | ZorbaTHut: it does have ads, they're just disabled in premium mode i think? |
| 23:40.19 | Cairenn | kamdis: lol, you serious? |
| 23:40.23 | NightHawkTheSane | kamdis: hahah |
| 23:40.24 | ZorbaTHut | hell, the curse client isn't even using 7z |
| 23:40.29 | Xuerian | NeoTron: Now granted, if curse and wowi (Leaving out the smaller sites for now) got together and provided a highly optimized updater framework that 3rd parties and proprietary clients could pull off of, I could see it.. But that's a lot of work and cross-company communication/cooperation, which I don't see happening |
| 23:40.33 | ZorbaTHut | vithos, right, but that's my point - diffs don't reduce ad revenue |
| 23:40.36 | ZorbaTHut | they just reduce bandwidth costs |
| 23:40.51 | kamdis | Cairenn: http://www.worldofwar.net/forums/showthread.php?t=418210&page=4 |
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| 23:41.00 | ZorbaTHut | xuerian, well, I sort of feel like then they shouldn't be surprised when WUU or Wowmatrix show up |
| 23:41.06 | Hirsute | I disagree, the main problem is that WoWMatrix is behaving unethically. |
| 23:41.11 | NeoTron | once curse client doesn't have auto-premium mode I suspect the use of it will decline below even where it is now |
| 23:41.30 | Xuerian | ZorbaTHut: As has been said on wowI, there is much less hate for WUU and JWU vs WoWMatrix. See Scytheblade's link for the reasons on that. |
| 23:41.38 | NeoTron | and as a user, I found it to be useless due to not telling me version details but instead relying on some non-descript date |
| 23:41.51 | AbsoRayne | meh, just made a thread on the UI forums |
| 23:41.53 | vithos | ZorbaTHut: i never said diffs reduce ad revenue. i'm just saying the excuse for the move to the curse client was OMG BANDWIDTH, but no actual bandwidth related improvements have been made |
| 23:42.01 | ZorbaTHut | as a maintainer, I found it worse than useless due to *breaking people's mods* :P |
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| 23:42.21 | ZorbaTHut | vithos, yeah, that's sort of my point also :) |
| 23:42.26 | ZorbaTHut | it's clear bandwidth is not a big concern for them |
| 23:42.28 | kd3 | sigh... instances are broken |
| 23:42.32 | ZorbaTHut | if it was, they'd do something about it. |
| 23:42.36 | ievil | kd3, we're stuck in MC |
| 23:42.43 | ievil | with no ragnaros, or any other mob |
| 23:42.45 | NightHawkTheSane | >.> If I get an email about a resume I sent in, and the guy seems to have lost all track of time ("Tomorrow afternoon is open for me, if not wednesday between 10 and 3 is open." is it bad form to correct him? :P |
| 23:42.54 | NeoTron | vithos: the bandwidth improvement made is to make it harder to update for the end user |
| 23:43.06 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Depends on the power of your correctional urge |
| 23:43.16 | NeoTron | vithos: but primarily the bandwidth changes had nothing to do with the client but simply removing the automatic packaging after every luittle change |
| 23:43.28 | NeoTron | vithos: and(current) lack of alpha version support |
| 23:43.29 | Xuerian | NeoTron: Or it could be as simple as compressing two versions of the releases - A updater release, and a site release |
| 23:44.00 | NeoTron | if there was a WAU that used only release/beta versions today, it would use a fraction of the bandwidth of before |
| 23:44.11 | NeoTron | not to mention if 7z or bzip2 were used (30% instant benefit) |
| 23:44.14 | vithos | NeoTron: well yeah, that's true. but if people would have been developing in branches and merging to trunk when stuff was ready it would have had the same effect |
| 23:44.24 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:44.26 | Xuerian | NeoTron: It's kindof funny that this whole boondoggle started with people on the WoWAce site telling everyone to use the SVN :) |
| 23:44.46 | Industrial | im in ur duskwood, doin ur quests http://images.gammatester.com/pics/59bd3d3fc9b1ef0eca39d72769d6a725.jpg |
| 23:44.54 | NeoTron | vithos: but that's unnecessarily annoying too |
| 23:44.55 | Xuerian | That, combined with Vithos's point, well.. XD |
| 23:45.00 | vithos | but LZMA compression, diffed updates, diffed change indexes, using coralcdn cache for the huge downloads would have done a lot more |
| 23:45.08 | ZorbaTHut | I think it's quite clear bandwidth was never a real reason :) |
| 23:45.20 | NeoTron | ZorbaTHut: makes for a good and compelling excuse! |
| 23:45.29 | ZorbaTHut | I mean, they go to a huge amount of trouble to switch over to the curse client/the new site before 3.0 |
| 23:45.31 | NeoTron | I should say this though - as an addon author the "new wowace" is much better |
| 23:45.34 | NeoTron | like infinitely so |
| 23:45.36 | ZorbaTHut | and then they *don't do anything to save bandwidth* |
| 23:45.37 | Xuerian | NeoTron: I agree. |
| 23:45.37 | ZorbaTHut | yeah. |
| 23:45.45 | Industrial | agreed |
| 23:45.54 | Industrial | theres clarity, downlaod pages |
| 23:45.58 | NeoTron | and I love the auto-syndiating to curse.com |
| 23:46.02 | Industrial | it looks like something. not hacked together services. |
| 23:46.09 | NeoTron | it's a bummer it can't be expanded to wowi through some relationship there |
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| 23:46.30 | dokomar | hey guys, gonna try to give this another shot but essentially i need to find a way to get this event "time_played_msg" to not spam the chat window every second, is there any way i can do that or am i not giving enough information on the issue? |
| 23:46.47 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: wowi has its own pretty nice setup, though. its different, but similar to what curse does |
| 23:47.05 | vithos | that's a good point. there have been lots of changes that benefit developers. but the end users got screwed. |
| 23:47.18 | End | anyone remember wowguru? they tried to do a multisite deal :P |
| 23:47.28 | Cairenn | HAH |
| 23:47.34 | Cairenn | errr, sorry, was that out loud? |
| 23:47.43 | End | well, on the surface :P |
| 23:47.47 | NightHawkTheSane | vithos: meh, end users were -really- spoiled though |
| 23:47.50 | Xuerian | vithos: Well, that was the point with wowace - but the problem is that Curse's distribution system still seems to be having problems |
| 23:48.00 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Spoiled is all relative. |
| 23:48.04 | End | I don't have any details, I just remember seeing the links, and then after a while they disappeared |
| 23:48.18 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: To a rich person, middle class is destitute. To middle, the poor. |
| 23:48.26 | AbsoRayne | oh hey, fixed it! \o/ |
| 23:48.28 | NeoTron | NightHawkTheSane: problem is doing both would kind of be a pain in the rear |
| 23:48.30 | Xuerian | This isn't always true, based on the person, but generally it holds |
| 23:48.42 | NeoTron | NightHawkTheSane: I have to handle one manually, regardless where I'm am hosting |
| 23:48.43 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: indeed |
| 23:48.47 | End | Cairenn: whatever happened that would make you laugh out loud though :P |
| 23:49.00 | End | :( |
| 23:49.16 | Dashkal | add git support to wowi. alias git-push to git push curse; git push wowinterface :p |
| 23:49.28 | vithos | NightHawkTheSane: i disagree. what is the reason they needed to be worse off than before? |
| 23:49.35 | Cairenn | we're working on it |
| 23:49.38 | NeoTron | Dashkal: I don't use git :P |
| 23:49.39 | End | was it something zeeg did? |
| 23:49.45 | NeoTron | svn works fine for me |
| 23:49.51 | Dashkal | Cairenn: I know. Was more making the joke there |
| 23:49.55 | Xuerian | Being able to push to both curse and wowi would be nice |
| 23:49.56 | NightHawkTheSane | vithos: I didn't say they HAD to be worse off, or even SHOULD. I'm just saying that end-users had it -very- good with wowace. |
| 23:50.16 | vithos | i think we disagree on the definition of spoiled then. |
| 23:50.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian had it down, they were rich, they got dropped back to 'middle class' and think they're poor because of it |
| 23:50.35 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, but relatively speaking, they *are* poor now |
| 23:50.43 | Dashkal | NightHawkTheSane: I'd argue they had it bad. It ensured that the end user would always get in-development versions of their addons |
| 23:50.45 | ZorbaTHut | there's nothing saying that everyone should have a certain level of inconvenience :P |
| 23:51.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Dashkal: eh, that always seemed a relatively minor inconvenience to me |
| 23:51.21 | Xuerian | But here's the thing, there's no reason to be poor if you can be rich. If you can be rich without making other people poor, all the better |
| 23:51.26 | ievil | Cairenn, that's what GMs keep telling us too :( |
| 23:51.36 | Cairenn | ievil: :p |
| 23:51.58 | ievil | but we're still stuck with not being to raid at all since patch day :S |
| 23:52.07 | Xuerian | "No reason" is of course a loose, but again, general statement |
| 23:52.12 | Dashkal | NightHawkTheSane: It had a few ripple effects. It forced authors to treat trunk as a release vector, hampering them (they had to adapt to the tool). And if an author used SVN as intended, it really fucked the end users *cough* Autobar |
| 23:52.25 | Yssaril | Cairenn: curse lets us setup a repo sync where it will pull daily/weekly from a given repo would that be something doable on wowi? |
| 23:52.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Dashkal: indeed, but in -general- authors tended to bend around the end user more than the reverse |
| 23:52.40 | dokomar | can anyone give me any ideas on how to stop the /played spam when activating this addon? |
| 23:52.58 | Syzgyn | I thought it was good practice to never break the trunk anyway. |
| 23:53.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Syzgyn: well, there's a difference btween "breaking it" and "developing in it" ;) |
| 23:53.22 | Syzgyn | True enough |
| 23:53.27 | Xuerian | Git makes so much more sense -_- |
| 23:53.31 | Dashkal | Syzgyn: not breaking trunk is good practice, yes. That said, there's nothing wrong with having trunk "incomplete" (only some features merged in and the like) |
| 23:53.39 | ZorbaTHut | I break my trunk all the time, but I'm also kind of lazy and know I'm developing solo |
| 23:53.45 | Syzgyn | lol |
| 23:53.59 | ZorbaTHut | and I do use branches for major in-development features, so. |
| 23:54.17 | kd3 | yay, BT's back up |
| 23:54.18 | Syzgyn | Yeah, I'm bad at that |
| 23:54.22 | Cairenn | Yssaril: you mean like the uploader that pulls from where ever you specify? http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12821 |
| 23:55.02 | ZorbaTHut | cairenn, oh man. <3 |
| 23:55.16 | Cairenn | that's been in place for ages, courtesy Shadowed |
| 23:55.34 | ZorbaTHut | I was planning to rig up some kind of a nasty uploading framework at some point, but that'll be easier |
| 23:55.54 | Yssaril | Cairenn: never saw that sweet thanks |
| 23:56.11 | ZorbaTHut | for the wowi side of things at least |
| 23:56.28 | Cairenn | it's only been around since last Oct :p http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12821 |
| 23:56.52 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, I figured I'd go hunting later :P |
| 23:57.01 | ZorbaTHut | wonder if curse has something similar, that would also make my life easier |
| 23:57.06 | Yssaril | Cairenn: now it just needs git support :) |
| 23:57.17 | Cairenn | we're working on it |
| 23:57.38 | Xinhuan | :) |
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