| 00:00.20 | Shirik|zZz | however I rewrote that voting module from the ground up and it worked earlier today |
| 00:01.08 | ScytheBlade1 | NightHawkTheSane: I just drank five hundred and nine of them |
| 00:01.27 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: if this game implemented alcohol poisoning, you'd have been dead about 250 ago :p |
| 00:01.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Well before that |
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| 00:04.28 | Amarande | hmm |
| 00:04.36 | Amarande | anyone remember off the top of their head where horde goes if they die in Stormwind? |
| 00:04.53 | NightHawkTheSane | out by the lumber camp to the east |
| 00:04.58 | NightHawkTheSane | i forgot the exact name |
| 00:05.09 | Amarande | ugh, that's going to be a fun run |
| 00:05.15 | Celoril | I need an addon which does something very simple: save the contents of the new calendar to a saved variable. Could anyone help me with it? I'll pay you $50. :) |
| 00:05.16 | Amarande | since I need to go into SW for the stocks achievement |
| 00:05.16 | NightHawkTheSane | been there, done that. |
| 00:05.28 | Amarande | speaking of which, how do you open the stockades? on my ally character I've noticed there's a gate in front of the blue portal |
| 00:05.31 | Amarande | and I'm not sure how you open it |
| 00:05.39 | kd3 | that's not stocks |
| 00:06.03 | kd3 | stocks is between the mage and trade districts |
| 00:06.06 | Amarande | and did they really make city raiding impossible till Nov 13, or is this just rumor? |
| 00:06.22 | kd3 | guards are 75. so... they're going to be crushing the whole time |
| 00:06.22 | ScytheBlade1 | The guards are level 75 |
| 00:06.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Sooooooooo |
| 00:06.34 | kd3 | I ran through org to RFC just fine, though |
| 00:06.56 | Celoril | anyone able to help me? |
| 00:07.01 | mikma | Celoril: check the wtf first |
| 00:07.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Celoril: that's really not "very simple", there's a ton of data inside |
| 00:07.52 | Celoril | I don't need every bit of data, more just the event names and times |
| 00:08.27 | mikma | did you check the wtf |
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| 00:08.47 | Celoril | Nope I don't have much time to work on it myself, which is why I was hoping to hire someone |
| 00:09.20 | mikma | so you havent even had a look if the game already saves the stuff in sv |
| 00:09.24 | Shirik|zZz | Any way on the blizzard unit frames to show the health/mana numbers permanently? |
| 00:09.29 | NightHawkTheSane | i really hate douchebags who kill quest mobs and flight masters. |
| 00:09.44 | NightHawkTheSane | s/mobs/npcs/ |
| 00:09.45 | MiximUmz | is there an x-perl that works somewhere? mine shows fine but has many errors and the menu is messed up |
| 00:09.47 | mikma | Shirik|zZz: enable them from interface settings? |
| 00:09.51 | Shirik|zZz | where is it? |
| 00:09.52 | Shirik|zZz | I looked |
| 00:09.59 | Amarande | oh, and where do horde appear if they die in Darnassus, Azuremyst, Bloodmyst, Teldrassil? |
| 00:10.08 | Zeksie | MiximUmz: yes, get r195 from wowace.com |
| 00:10.09 | mikma | Shirik|zZz: status text |
| 00:10.15 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 00:10.17 | Shirik|zZz | oh is that what that is |
| 00:10.21 | Shirik|zZz | I couldn't figure out what status text was :) |
| 00:10.27 | Zeksie | none of them had messed up menus tho, unless you were running 2.4 version on 3.0 |
| 00:10.29 | Shirik|zZz | <3 <3 |
| 00:10.29 | NightHawkTheSane | did you... read the tooltips? |
| 00:10.33 | NightHawkTheSane | ~lart Shirik|zZz |
| 00:10.33 | purl | beats Shirik|zZz into protomatter with the andromeda galaxy |
| 00:10.34 | Esine | <NightHawkTheSane> i really hate douchebags who kill quest mobs and flight masters. <-- ummm isn't this the whole idea of alliance vs horde? :) |
| 00:10.45 | Esine | to annoy the opposing faction |
| 00:11.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Esine: feh, it's nothing more than purely antisocial jackassery, that serves no purpose other than to make someone elses life more miserable. |
| 00:11.10 | Aii | well, theoretically on a PvE server the concept is that if you're not flagged you shouldn't be affected |
| 00:11.17 | NightHawkTheSane | if you want to pvp, go to an arena or battleground. |
| 00:11.23 | Aii | i.e. you have the choice of whether you're annoyed/can annoy |
| 00:11.40 | Aii | killing quest mobs/flightmasters bypasses that though |
| 00:12.17 | MiximUmz | Zeksie can you paste a direct link? I can't find my way around their new no files.* |
| 00:12.55 | Zeksie | http://www.wowace.com/projects/xperl/files/89-r195/ |
| 00:13.01 | MiximUmz | thank you very much |
| 00:13.14 | Zeksie | and now i go to bed. 0115 here. |
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| 00:15.53 | Amarande | Night: fail |
| 00:16.19 | NightHawkTheSane | im also kinda worried about what else that was in my equipment category that i may have vendored >.> |
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| 00:18.39 | Neuro_Medivh | anyone see this article about the guy with 36 accounts? |
| 00:19.27 | Neuro_Medivh | http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/gamer-juggles-over-30-warcraft-characters/1255554 |
| 00:20.21 | kd3 | oh wow |
| 00:20.23 | kd3 | my realm's full |
| 00:20.29 | kd3 | haven't seen that in a while |
| 00:20.47 | Amarande | Heya Neuro |
| 00:20.51 | Amarande | ecastingbar ftw, btw |
| 00:21.22 | Amarande | heh, can you imagine multiboxing molten core as one person |
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| 00:26.24 | ScytheBlade1 | What's the macro conditional to check if you have a posess bar up? |
| 00:26.38 | Neuro_Medivh | pet? |
| 00:26.41 | ScytheBlade1 | No |
| 00:26.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Posession bar |
| 00:26.46 | |Jelly| | pally tanking kara is fun |
| 00:26.51 | ScytheBlade1 | ie mind control |
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| 00:27.36 | Neuro_Medivh | hmm, didn't know there was one |
| 00:27.40 | ScytheBlade1 | There is |
| 00:28.31 | Lopeppeppy | Kara is a hoot, Jelly |
| 00:28.44 | Lopeppeppy | My holydin can tank trash in there, it's sweet fun times. |
| 00:29.28 | Amarande | hmm |
| 00:29.40 | Amarande | now to figure how many damn 2000+ yard corpse runs it's going to take to get into stocks. |
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| 00:29.57 | Neuro_Medivh | bonusbar? |
| 00:29.59 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 |
| 00:30.00 | Amarande | since apparently there are these alliance hunter people thinking that the city is being attacked and needs defense |
| 00:30.08 | NightHawkTheSane | try waiting until a less populous time. |
| 00:30.08 | kontroll | Any oUF wizards around? |
| 00:30.55 | ScytheBlade1 | bonusbar it is! |
| 00:30.58 | Neuro_Medivh | we don't cotton to no weezardry 'round these here pahts |
| 00:31.13 | AbsoRayne | @.@ Headache |
| 00:31.18 | AbsoRayne | wtb Excedrin PST |
| 00:31.27 | Neuro_Medivh | vodka works just as well |
| 00:31.28 | NightHawkTheSane | i have a bunch |
| 00:31.42 | NightHawkTheSane | I realized excedrin gives me a little bit of asthma though. so i'd rather have the headache |
| 00:31.58 | Tem | there's so many more people online than I'm used to seeing |
| 00:32.00 | Amarande | hmm |
| 00:32.08 | Dewin | 165 people in the room. |
| 00:32.10 | Dewin | wow. |
| 00:32.12 | Shirik|zZz | hymn of hope: Party wide or raid wide? |
| 00:32.14 | Amarande | any idea if there's a way (maybe editing the lua) to change options in cartographer3? |
| 00:32.20 | kontroll | Patch day, Dewin. ;P |
| 00:32.24 | Cairenn | it's lower now that it's been |
| 00:32.26 | Amarande | mainly, to set the dimming for unexplored areas like old cartog had |
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| 00:32.32 | Dewin | Amarande: Do what I did, upgrade to cartographer 2? :-p |
| 00:32.46 | Syzgyn | Cairenn: I'm curious, is the server traffic starting to subside at all yet? |
| 00:32.48 | Dewin | I wonder if my mounts are restored yet. |
| 00:32.57 | Amarande | cool, apparently while my corpse is being camped in sw, I get to listen to ... trade chat |
| 00:32.59 | Amarande | heh |
| 00:33.09 | Cairenn | Syzgyn: heh, no |
| 00:33.12 | Syzgyn | heh |
| 00:33.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik|zZz: test it? |
| 00:33.38 | Huufarted | Can anybody recommend a goot sct-like addon since sct is apparently not maintained anymore? |
| 00:33.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik|zZz: if i had to speculate, i'd say party. mana tide is only party |
| 00:33.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Huufarted: msbt or parrot are the two other popular ones |
| 00:34.04 | Huufarted | Thanks, NightHawk. :) |
| 00:34.23 | kontroll | WTB oUF editing assistance, 50g |
| 00:34.25 | Esine | soo what does this Overkill mean in my combat log? |
| 00:34.42 | Huufarted | Overkill is damage you did beyond what would kill the mob |
| 00:34.49 | Esine | oh right.. |
| 00:35.00 | Huufarted | if a mob has 25 HPs, you do 100 HPs of damage, 75 of that is overkill |
| 00:35.06 | Esine | ya ok |
| 00:35.25 | Kirov | The overkill stuff is going to completely change my play style |
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| 00:35.41 | Dewin | get mob to 2 HP and then pyroblast? |
| 00:35.54 | Huufarted | Yeah, it's great to gauge your damage just like overhealing is good for a healer. |
| 00:36.07 | Dewin | that's what I gathered too. |
| 00:36.07 | Kirov | I used to try and assassinate mobs, now I leave them with like 2000 health because I don't want to waste the damage. |
| 00:36.13 | Syzgyn | lol |
| 00:36.24 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* the only real use to overkill seems to be to allow damage meter addons to filter it out |
| 00:36.33 | Shirik|zZz | 876 spirit, 1185 mp5 |
| 00:36.35 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 00:36.35 | Shirik|zZz | so much win |
| 00:36.35 | ScytheBlade1 | s |
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| 00:36.37 | ScytheBlade1 | *so |
| 00:36.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Warlock in my guild |
| 00:36.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Had his mounts disappear on him, like others did |
| 00:36.52 | Dewin | Earthen Ring is full.... |
| 00:36.55 | Dewin | wow, haven't seen that in forever |
| 00:36.57 | ScytheBlade1 | So he goes to buy another mount |
| 00:37.08 | ScytheBlade1 | "WTF I can't even buy another!" |
| 00:37.10 | ScytheBlade1 | a few seconds later |
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| 00:37.16 | ScytheBlade1 | "WTF LAG I bought like twelve" |
| 00:37.24 | NightHawkTheSane | hahah |
| 00:37.28 | Kirov | lol! |
| 00:37.33 | Kirov | It's a good thing mounts a cheap. |
| 00:37.35 | Tem | ScytheBlade1, you probably need to gquit |
| 00:37.39 | NightHawkTheSane | please tell me it was an expensive mount. :p |
| 00:37.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Tem: I will be in two days |
| 00:37.49 | Dewin | Scytheblade: lol. |
| 00:37.53 | ScytheBlade1 | NightHawkTheSane: epic flyer, so... not CE Hippogryph expensive, but |
| 00:37.58 | Kraps | hey guys, do you know anything about the installation location warning? |
| 00:38.05 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: well, by expensive i meant 150-200g |
| 00:38.07 | Lopeppeppy | What kind of "anything", Kraps? |
| 00:38.08 | Dewin | My mounts still aren't recovered |
| 00:38.14 | ScytheBlade1 | NightHawkTheSane: He was buying Nether Drakes |
| 00:38.17 | Kraps | what does it mean? |
| 00:38.20 | Kirov | Kraps - yes, it's because Vista is evil. |
| 00:38.20 | Dewin | GM ticket is escalated though |
| 00:38.26 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: so.. 200g a pop. EXCELLENT. |
| 00:38.39 | ScytheBlade1 | NightHawkTheSane: my thoughts exactly |
| 00:38.43 | Tem | P.S. those mounts are unique |
| 00:38.47 | Tem | so um |
| 00:38.54 | Tem | he -can't- buy twelve |
| 00:38.56 | Kraps | Kirov: it says "blizzard recommends...." |
| 00:38.57 | Lopeppeppy | "Finally, if you are on Vista, there is a new file path this patch. The installation itself was moved to C:\Users\Public\Games\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns. Make sure you are installing in the proper folder. |
| 00:38.57 | Lopeppeppy | " |
| 00:39.00 | ScytheBlade1 | he said "like" 12 |
| 00:39.09 | ScytheBlade1 | he probably just clicked on one |
| 00:39.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Saw nothing |
| 00:39.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Clickd on the next |
| 00:39.17 | ScytheBlade1 | And the next, and the next |
| 00:39.28 | Lopeppeppy | Kraps, if you move your install to C: and not /program files, Blizzard won't recommend a thing. :) |
| 00:39.28 | Kirov | Kraps - there are a lot of issues with Vista and installing WoW in to the Program Files folder. |
| 00:39.45 | Kraps | ok... |
| 00:39.59 | Kraps | issues like what? |
| 00:40.38 | Lopeppeppy | Like the virtual store and UAC and whatever other stuff. |
| 00:40.46 | Lopeppeppy | Just move WoW out of /program files and you're good to go. |
| 00:40.47 | Kraps | uac if off |
| 00:40.53 | Kraps | *is |
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| 00:41.26 | Lopeppeppy | Doesn't matter, Kraps. Vista still handles the storage of saved variables of programs in Program Files in a way that WoW finds awkward. |
| 00:41.42 | Lopeppeppy | Hence, their recommendation to relocate, and my similar-but-different recommendation. |
| 00:41.50 | Kraps | so i should let the installer move it then |
| 00:42.04 | Kraps | or not |
| 00:42.07 | Lopeppeppy | Or move it yourself out into C: and be done with it. |
| 00:42.21 | Lopeppeppy | Myself, I'm happier out on the C drive where WoW behaves just like it did on XP. YMMV> |
| 00:42.21 | Amarande | It would help if the stupid instance portal wasn't SO BLOODY HIDDEN |
| 00:42.29 | Amarande | where *is* the entrance to stocks anyway? |
| 00:42.32 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, 27 mounts.. 15 more flying mounts i can buy... that's only 42.. >< |
| 00:42.33 | Shirik|zZz | 1214 mp5 with wel fed |
| 00:42.33 | Amarande | seems that if you try to hurry you get a wrong turn |
| 00:42.38 | Kraps | the whole wow folder |
| 00:42.46 | NightHawkTheSane | oh wait, i forgot chickens.. |
| 00:42.53 | Amarande | and why didn't they wait till nov 13 to level up the guards? :) |
| 00:43.14 | Kraps | then i click no? |
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| 00:43.28 | Dewin | Amarande: To spite people going for the achievements? |
| 00:44.01 | Lopeppeppy | If you click No you will be stopping your install, I'm not sure how that will work out for you. This one, you have to decide. |
| 00:44.05 | Dewin | and likely so beta and live can be synced to a mostly-the-same version of the game |
| 00:44.19 | kontroll | Question: How do I enable class coloring for power bars in oUF? |
| 00:44.41 | Kraps | but if i click yes, it'll move it |
| 00:44.56 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, yes it will, to a different part of the virtual store thingie. |
| 00:45.05 | nuoHep | kontroll, power.colorClass = true |
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| 00:45.37 | kontroll | I was hoping it would be that easy, but it's not doing anything at all. I've been cannibalizing other layouts for the better part of an hour now. |
| 00:45.55 | Amarande | anyway |
| 00:46.00 | Amarande | where's the stupid turn off to get into stocks? |
| 00:46.10 | Amarande | following the coordinates ended up leading me towards the park instead |
| 00:46.13 | Kraps | so walk me thought this: i move the wow folder to C:, and redowload the patch? |
| 00:46.15 | kontroll | Stocks? nasdaq.com? ;P |
| 00:46.15 | Amarande | I know it's 41,58, but ... |
| 00:46.18 | Lopeppeppy | Near the mage quarter, on the outer ring, Amarande. Near the park, yes. |
| 00:46.26 | alestane | It's more or less smack in the middle of SW, off the mage quarter. |
| 00:47.00 | Lopeppeppy | Kraps, that's what I did. First moved my install to C, and then did the patching thingie separate. Depending on your download time, that might be effective or not. |
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| 00:47.18 | Kraps | alright thanks |
| 00:47.31 | Lopeppeppy | You may then lose some saved variables and so forth, since I have no idea where to tell you that they got stored, for later retrieval. I was nuking my addons and variables anyway, it didn't matter to me one stinking bit if I ever found them again. |
| 00:47.33 | kontroll | nuoHep: Mind taking a look at my frankenlayout? |
| 00:48.04 | Dewin | Amarande: How is it that you can't find stockades? |
| 00:48.04 | NightHawkTheSane | hm. i should have bought the 60% speed brewfest mount when i had the chance this year. >< |
| 00:48.32 | nuoHep | kontroll, it wont work if you use colorPower because it [colorClass] has lower priority |
| 00:48.40 | ccox|afk | has anyone else had problems where normal chat channels don't appear in general chat panel? |
| 00:48.48 | Kraps | hey it gives me a dialog to choose a directory, so i wont have to re d/l it... |
| 00:49.07 | Kraps | true? |
| 00:49.22 | kontroll | nuoHep: There's nothing of the sort. |
| 00:49.30 | Amarande | Dewin: I can find the coordinates, but there's no instance portal there |
| 00:49.32 | Amarande | just angry guards |
| 00:49.40 | Amarande | did they change the entrance to stocks when they remodeled to add the harbor? |
| 00:49.47 | Kraps | here goes nothing... |
| 00:49.48 | Dewin | I can't imagine why they would |
| 00:49.53 | Dewin | Maybe something's wrong on your client |
| 00:50.02 | nuoHep | kontroll, show the layout then. Ill try to help you. |
| 00:50.03 | Dewin | ccox: Update deadlybossmods. If that doesn't work, update any ace-based mods, particularly the libs thereof |
| 00:50.12 | Kraps | The file "C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\Data\common.MPQ" is required, but is not in the destination directory. |
| 00:50.18 | Amarande | or is there a door that needs to be opened while alive in order to reveal the instance portal? |
| 00:50.19 | Kraps | fuck |
| 00:50.21 | alestane | There's a big old building on the corner of the canal there. Stocks entrance is going down the stairs in that building. |
| 00:50.22 | Amarande | which would explain why I'm not seeing one |
| 00:50.31 | Dewin | there's stairs that go down |
| 00:50.36 | Dewin | and the instance is at the bottom |
| 00:50.58 | kontroll | http://bonescraper.net/oUF_dLx.zip |
| 00:51.10 | Dewin | you can ghost right through doors that are required to get into instances if you're dead anyways |
| 00:51.32 | Amarande | can you enter an instance as a ghost if your corpse isn't in it, though? |
| 00:51.37 | Dewin | nope. |
| 00:52.01 | Dewin | Nor can you enter a raid instance you're dead in if you're no longer in the raid. |
| 00:52.04 | Amarande | and lemme guess, the entrance to the big old building is NOWHERE NEAR the quoted 41,58 for the entrance |
| 00:52.15 | Dewin | Ohhhhh |
| 00:52.27 | Dewin | I bet you the coordinates are wrong because the stormwind map probably has new coordinates ;) |
| 00:52.33 | NightHawkTheSane | very likely |
| 00:52.36 | alestane | The coords may have changed since they expanded the map to accommodate the harbor. |
| 00:52.50 | Amarande | what's the new coordinates then? |
| 00:52.51 | Dewin | AMarande: There's a tower-ish structure between mage quarter and the trade district |
| 00:52.54 | Dewin | you're looking for that |
| 00:52.55 | NightHawkTheSane | same thing happened (or.. will happen?) to EPL |
| 00:53.04 | alestane | It has a meeting stone outside. |
| 00:53.11 | Amarande | at least they never opened the other stockades instance |
| 00:53.21 | Amarande | which would just not be fair, for horde to have to brave pvp to get two instances while ally only have one such (RFC) |
| 00:53.24 | nuoHep | kontroll, its because you are using OverrideUpdatePower |
| 00:53.34 | alestane | NightHawkTheSane: Happened already I think. There's a zone behind Tyr's Hand called "Ruins of the Scarlet Enclave". |
| 00:53.45 | nuoHep | so the coloring code never fires |
| 00:53.50 | NightHawkTheSane | alestane: yarr, that would b eit |
| 00:53.51 | kontroll | Oh? |
| 00:53.57 | NightHawkTheSane | i wasn't sure if that got pushed as well |
| 00:54.09 | NightHawkTheSane | it totlaly threw off my gatherer nodes on beta : |
| 00:54.09 | NightHawkTheSane | :p |
| 00:54.16 | nuoHep | kontroll, use PostUpdate instead |
| 00:54.39 | Amarande | yay, zoned in |
| 00:54.48 | Kraps | NERF GOOGLE DESKTOP |
| 00:54.48 | Amarande | apparently, cartographer3 has the stockades marker at the wrong spot, too |
| 00:54.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Is there a UI option to hide the built-in focusframe? |
| 00:54.58 | kontroll | I removed "Override", worked too. :P Do you recommend using PostUpdate instead? Is there any difference? |
| 00:55.04 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm |
| 00:55.07 | kontroll | (I can't believe it was this simple <3) |
| 00:55.26 | NightHawkTheSane | are the BE newbie area quests (sunstrider isle) just NOT available to you if you're not belf? |
| 00:55.55 | kontroll | NightHawkTheSane: Some of them aren't. |
| 00:55.59 | kontroll | Afaik. |
| 00:56.01 | nuoHep | kontroll, PostUpdatePower. well, if you dont use it then your code that sets the text wont be executed |
| 00:56.15 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont see any of the lvl1-5 quests available |
| 00:56.19 | kontroll | Oooh. |
| 00:56.31 | Kraps | nerf posts like "10 thing's you hate about 3.0" |
| 00:57.11 | Kraps | sorry about the spam, i'm kinda nervous |
| 00:58.43 | kontroll | Thank you, nuoHep. :) |
| 00:58.49 | Amarande | I actually would have made it into Stocks in one piece the first time if it wasn't for incorrect coordinates! |
| 00:58.50 | Amarande | dammit :| |
| 00:59.16 | Amarande | ok ... does Bazil do instance wide aggro btw when you get to him, or can I go straight to him? |
| 00:59.44 | Lopeppeppy | I've gone right to him before, I don't think he's very social except for his immediate large-room-set area. |
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| 01:00.51 | Kraps | its installing "expansion.mpq". thats good right? |
| 01:02.07 | Dewin | wait Amarande... how did you die going to stocks? Horde toon? |
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| 01:02.20 | Amarande | Dewin: yeah |
| 01:02.26 | Dewin | ah |
| 01:02.29 | Dewin | for the achievement? |
| 01:02.31 | Amarande | yup |
| 01:02.39 | Dewin | Lucky bastard. I have to go to RFC :-p |
| 01:02.42 | Dewin | unless that's not included |
| 01:02.49 | NightHawkTheSane | it is |
| 01:03.21 | Lopeppeppy | Just strip naked and march into the city. Corpse run ad infinitum. |
| 01:03.28 | Tem | you don't get anything for that though |
| 01:03.38 | Amarande | Good grief, felhunters are OP :) |
| 01:03.39 | Tem | completionists are weird |
| 01:03.48 | Tem | old news is old, Amarande |
| 01:04.01 | Amarande | I'm just watching mine solo stuff in Stocks without any assistance from me |
| 01:04.04 | Amarande | and hardly get hurt at all |
| 01:04.08 | Kraps | whats the achievement? crash a dungeon that requires corpse runs? |
| 01:04.10 | Amarande | and I didn't even take the felhunter talents in aff |
| 01:04.23 | Dewin | Lop: I guess that'd work |
| 01:04.24 | kontroll | RFC must be easier... Org has a "back" entrance, from there you can run straight to the Cleft of Shadow without encountering any guards I reckon. :O |
| 01:04.24 | Amarande | Kraps: each dungeon has an achievement for its final boss |
| 01:04.33 | Kraps | ah |
| 01:04.39 | Dewin | and I'm a NE hunter so I could FD/shadowmeld out of trouble |
| 01:04.40 | Amarande | Yeah, why do all the horde cities have vulnerable back entrances, while alliance cities have to be entered via the guarded side? |
| 01:04.57 | Amarande | hmm |
| 01:04.58 | Dewin | Umm... the tram to IF isn't that guarded. |
| 01:05.00 | alestane | Only UC afaik. |
| 01:05.02 | kontroll | To give the noobs a chance, Amarande. |
| 01:05.03 | kontroll | :P |
| 01:05.13 | Amarande | looks like they removed the restriction on looting mobs that were killed only by pets/minions |
| 01:05.19 | Dewin | really? |
| 01:05.23 | Dewin | Nice. Do you get XP yet? |
| 01:05.28 | Amarande | yeah, I was able to loot stuff my felhunter killed |
| 01:05.29 | kontroll | Oh. Neat. |
| 01:05.32 | Amarande | don't know, everything in stockades is grey :) |
| 01:06.24 | Amarande | I guess they may have done it to fix shaman QQ |
| 01:06.31 | Amarande | which in shamans' case is probably pretty legitimate QQ, too |
| 01:07.14 | Amarande | (seeing as totems are such a large part of their spell arsenal) |
| 01:07.21 | Dewin | Heh, I have it happen every now and then on my hunter |
| 01:07.39 | Dewin | I'll kill 3-4 mobs and then have my pet start the next one while I loot them, gather bloodberries, etc |
| 01:07.43 | Dewin | sometimes my pet gets lots of crits |
| 01:07.49 | Dewin | afk |
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| 01:08.18 | Amarande | hmm, it's not wokring 100% |
| 01:08.27 | Amarande | maybe now it's that you have to be near enough to your pet at the time |
| 01:08.34 | Amarande | (rather than just letting aggressive pet go amok) |
| 01:09.31 | Amarande | anyway, to get back to previous exploration based question |
| 01:09.42 | Amarande | what GY do horde who die on the night elf or draenei islands end up at? |
| 01:10.31 | Lopeppeppy | There are some horde graveyards around the alliance lands, 'cause hordelings need spirit healers too. |
| 01:10.47 | ccox | Dewin - thanks, got it working again |
| 01:11.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: for Teldrassil, i believe horde end up somewhere in darkshore |
| 01:11.41 | NightHawkTheSane | there's probably some GY on Azuremyst for them, as thats across a zone boundry |
| 01:12.41 | Amarande | Night: great, so that means that explore teldrassil has to wait till WOTLK and probably a decent raid? |
| 01:12.52 | Amarande | unless a T6 tank is strong enough for city guards |
| 01:13.08 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* i don't know. |
| 01:13.35 | Amarande | I'm assuming that they're not quite as tough as KJ or Illidan. |
| 01:13.54 | Esine | Amarande, reroll rogue plz k thx (tia hth g2gbbomglolbbq) |
| 01:13.57 | kontroll | You can use the boat as a ghost. Trust me. :P |
| 01:14.18 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 01:14.23 | kontroll | Iirc that CR puts the SW one to shame though. |
| 01:14.39 | Amarande | eww. |
| 01:14.53 | Amarande | actually, the SW corpse run isn't really much worse than some of the worse corpse runs in the Barrens as a lowbie |
| 01:15.04 | kontroll | Not today. |
| 01:15.21 | kontroll | Barrens is where the map designers tried the new GY spam tool. |
| 01:15.48 | Amarande | oh, and why did they take out poison for rogues? |
| 01:15.52 | Amarande | or is something else being substituted now |
| 01:15.58 | kd3 | just buy them from a vendor |
| 01:16.02 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ |
| 01:16.06 | Esine | Amarande, they took poison brewing skill away |
| 01:16.08 | NightHawkTheSane | do you like, not pay attention to anything? |
| 01:16.13 | kontroll | :P |
| 01:16.28 | Esine | I hate it :( I likde brewing them. It's like they're taking all the fun stuff away and making the game full combat mode :/ |
| 01:16.42 | kontroll | Well... |
| 01:16.44 | Esine | next it's professions and you can buy the ready products from vendor |
| 01:16.47 | kontroll | The new poisons rock. |
| 01:16.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Esine: you.. liked buying things from vendors to make them into OTHER things to use? |
| 01:16.58 | kontroll | My poison dmg almost tripled. :O |
| 01:17.01 | NightHawkTheSane | that's pretty much the epitome of tedium. |
| 01:17.07 | Amarande | Night: rogue is one of the two classes I never played, so ... I'm not very familiar with it |
| 01:17.23 | Esine | Amarande, what's the the second one? |
| 01:17.24 | kontroll | NightHawkTheSane: Used to be that a few pickpocketed junkboxes could fill all poison needs for a week. |
| 01:17.27 | Amarande | Esine: druid |
| 01:17.32 | Esine | you missed all the stealthing fun |
| 01:17.42 | Amarande | although paladin, priest and lock are the only classes I've reached 60+ on |
| 01:17.52 | kontroll | Rogue > * |
| 01:18.01 | NightHawkTheSane | kontroll: yeah, true, its not like you HAD to get it from there |
| 01:19.17 | Lopeppeppy | The Addon Install guide is getting a lot of use today. Shirik, I added your little blurb about the Vista thingie this patch. |
| 01:19.55 | Amarande | hmm, I should see if cartographer2 is updated yet |
| 01:20.03 | Amarande | though I do love the googlemaps like design of cartog3 |
| 01:20.25 | Shirik|zZz | Ok I'm sorry |
| 01:20.28 | Shirik|zZz | holy priests == way OP |
| 01:20.42 | Esine | cartographer3 isn't working at all for me. I can't zoom out :/ I'm locked to the zone map only |
| 01:21.00 | Esine | also there doesn't seem to be option for scaling the map or having it semi transparent |
| 01:21.17 | Esine | there's an option for scaling the options dialog. yay that's useful.. not |
| 01:21.24 | Esine | hear that ckknight |
| 01:22.02 | ckknight | mousewheel? |
| 01:22.11 | Esine | nope. not mousewheel, not right click |
| 01:22.14 | Kraps | When do we get dual specs? |
| 01:22.15 | Kraps | Not until the first content patch after Wrath, sadly. |
| 01:22.19 | Kraps | bugger |
| 01:22.45 | Kirov | cart2 and cart3 are both completely fubared for me |
| 01:23.48 | Kirov | Neither seem to accept any mouse input in the map frame itself. |
| 01:24.17 | Tem | Shirik|zZz, what now? |
| 01:24.20 | Kirov | And cart2 throws a hand full of errors when I launch it (even when nothing else is installed, and yes using the version with the ToggleWorldMap removed) |
| 01:24.21 | Shirik|zZz | hahaha |
| 01:24.33 | Shirik|zZz | so there's another spell I think I told you about, surge of light |
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| 01:24.53 | End | wtf |
| 01:24.53 | End | wow |
| 01:24.54 | Tem | every time you crit you get a free instant cast heal that can't crit |
| 01:25.04 | Esine | Kirov, actually my cartographer recognizes mouse position so I can see subzone names |
| 01:25.04 | Shirik|zZz | When it procs, I get a free, instant cast, non-crit flash heal |
| 01:25.04 | End | stuff didn't need that big of a nerf |
| 01:25.04 | Esine | but no clicking or scrolling |
| 01:25.04 | Shirik|zZz | It procs like every other heal I do |
| 01:25.09 | Shirik|zZz | since CoH counts for 5 chances |
| 01:25.14 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, do not rub in how much Holy paladins now suck the big one. Okay? |
| 01:25.18 | Shirik|zZz | Also I have approximately 1300 mp5 right now |
| 01:25.19 | Shirik|zZz | so... |
| 01:25.21 | Lopeppeppy | I adore you, but I'd have to kill you. |
| 01:25.23 | Amarande | Kirov: cart3 seems to work fine for me except that the options dialog throws up a swatter error box and I can't set anything |
| 01:25.36 | Shirik|zZz | roll a priest!!! |
| 01:25.39 | Amarande | in particular, I most wanted to set the dimming for unexplored spots (if cart3 supports that still?) |
| 01:25.49 | Amarande | hmm, there an option I can muck with in the saved variables file for cart3? |
| 01:25.50 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, I have one. :) 62 and about to grow bigger. |
| 01:27.11 | Shirik|zZz | o.o |
| 01:27.20 | Shirik|zZz | mine's bigger |
| 01:27.48 | Lopeppeppy | Well yeah, of course it is. *keeps a straight face* |
| 01:30.16 | Kraps | ZOMG IT'S ALIVE! |
| 01:30.30 | Lopeppeppy | yay, whatever you did worked? |
| 01:31.13 | Kraps | YEAH |
| 01:31.24 | Kraps | sorry caps |
| 01:31.58 | Kraps | i'm getting red latency though |
| 01:32.04 | Lopeppeppy | Latency is the suckage. |
| 01:33.44 | Kraps | currency tab, sweet |
| 01:36.23 | Huufarted | Did they change it so you can see exactly how many HPs people have? |
| 01:36.48 | Esine | yep |
| 01:36.48 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
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| 01:37.19 | Kraps | dissconected :/ |
| 01:37.30 | Lopeppeppy | That happens when there is high latency. *nod* |
| 01:37.38 | Kraps | ya :) |
| 01:37.39 | Huufarted | Wow, so no need for Mobhealth3 |
| 01:38.03 | Lonny` | Can someone have a look at it, it's the stack trace and I can't seems to find the problem http://wowi.pastey.net/98400 |
| 01:38.05 | Huufarted | kinda sucks, though. :( I like the horde not knowing I'm a 12k mage |
| 01:38.07 | |Jelly| | We wiped chess! WEWT! |
| 01:38.20 | |Jelly| | s/We/They (I was AFK)/ |
| 01:38.22 | Kraps | calender |
| 01:38.44 | Semhirage | anyone know how i can change the mt targets to non-warriors in x-perl w/out ora2 |
| 01:38.57 | Amarande | also, as I asked last night ... |
| 01:39.07 | Amarande | Is there a reason why Ctrl-Shift-0 cannot be bound? |
| 01:39.11 | Kraps | is cosmos updated? |
| 01:39.14 | Amarande | in BT4, at least |
| 01:39.59 | Lopeppeppy | Kraps, no. |
| 01:40.07 | Kraps | hmm |
| 01:40.36 | Kraps | lfg is as crappy as ever /sigh |
| 01:40.51 | Lopeppeppy | always will be |
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| 01:42.58 | Kraps | why though? |
| 01:43.12 | Lopeppeppy | Why not? *grin* |
| 01:43.15 | Lopeppeppy | Night guys. |
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| 01:43.23 | Kraps | night |
| 01:44.46 | Kraps | anyone have a decent prot warrior setup yet? |
| 01:45.51 | Kraps | hot new loading screens :O |
| 01:49.18 | Sixen | Agreed. |
| 01:49.43 | Dewin | I noticed they redid all the loading screens with higher res graphics |
| 01:49.56 | Dewin | hmm, my server is down but in a most unusual way |
| 01:50.00 | Kraps | that too |
| 01:50.55 | Dewin | it hangs at 'logging in to game server', and then pops up the server suggestion list. |
| 01:51.00 | Dewin | with my server not listed as offline |
| 01:52.26 | Sixen | wtf |
| 01:52.29 | Sixen | It says i'm underwater |
| 01:52.34 | Sixen | But i'm in ORG.. |
| 01:53.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Found your problem |
| 01:53.18 | ScytheBlade1 | (You rolled horde) |
| 01:53.19 | Sixen | It's an addon, yes? |
| 01:53.20 | Sixen | :( |
| 01:53.36 | Esine | Sixen, nah had that happen on my ally mage at if |
| 01:53.38 | Tem | Your mechanic is a pony and there's a dead guy in your engine |
| 01:53.44 | Esine | breath went up as i logged in |
| 01:54.05 | Sixen | Oh yuck... All of my options reset.. |
| 01:54.22 | Tem | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/05/16/funny-pictures-mechanic-is-a-pony/ |
| 01:54.37 | Dewin | I think the breath thing is related to time underwater changed from 1m to 3m |
| 01:54.44 | |Jelly| | 2 hour kara. i was 5th on damage above a DPS warrior ... and a mage. |
| 01:54.49 | Dewin | So you log in and you only have '1 minute' of breath left |
| 01:54.58 | Dewin | until it hits the new max |
| 01:54.59 | Esine | makes sense |
| 01:56.13 | Kraps | cant decide on imp spell reflection |
| 01:56.34 | Kraps | inp revenge? |
| 01:56.35 | bleeter | "Dear Blizzard: Thank you for this patch. Raid DPS is insane. 1.) Najentus down in under 3 minutes 2.) Supremus down before second kite phase 3.) Akama done in a minute. |
| 01:56.58 | Shirik|zZz | yup |
| 01:57.01 | Shirik|zZz | doing the same right now hehe |
| 01:57.04 | Shirik|zZz | one shield on najentus |
| 01:57.07 | Shirik|zZz | we were like "wtf" |
| 01:57.14 | Kraps | gosh, i really need a warrior |
| 01:57.19 | Kraps | to help |
| 01:57.24 | NightHawkTheSane | bleeter: well to be fair, akama was alawys a short fight :p |
| 01:57.30 | bleeter | now if I could just get a stable server... ;) |
| 01:57.38 | Shirik|zZz | Dear Blizzard: Thank you for this patch. I don't have to watch my mana bar anymore. Instead I have to use flash heal all the time because they're always free. |
| 01:57.40 | bleeter | acutally, I'd prefer continuing cleaning up my PCs |
| 01:58.19 | bleeter | Dear Blizz: thx for the break, my s/w repository appreciates the time I've spent going through it with a fine tooth comb and weeding out crap from 1995 |
| 01:59.00 | End | Dear Blizzard: Oh god, we can just zerg this shit. |
| 01:59.11 | bleeter | if it gets any more amusing I might power up the BBC Micros and try recovering some floppies and cassettes |
| 01:59.56 | End | We killed shade before akama reached 81%, and blooslust was on cooldown :( |
| 02:00.13 | Amarande | I still remember getting Shade of Akama and Shade of Aran mixed up |
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| 02:01.56 | Amarande | soo |
| 02:02.03 | Amarande | lemme guess, shiny fish scales are vendor trash now |
| 02:02.04 | Kraps | cruelty or attt? |
| 02:02.06 | Legorol | Does anyone know why are the CE pets Account Bound? |
| 02:02.42 | Tenchworks | so you can send them to alts |
| 02:02.58 | Tem | allows you to have all 3 pets on all your toons |
| 02:03.02 | Esine | what are CE :O |
| 02:03.07 | Tenchworks | it's ment for the Vanilla pets so you can get all 3 on your toons |
| 02:03.07 | Esine | CE pets |
| 02:03.10 | bleeter | collectors edition |
| 02:03.11 | Legorol | Tem: right |
| 02:03.14 | Esine | ah |
| 02:03.20 | Tem | that's why |
| 02:03.23 | Legorol | Tem: why do that though? |
| 02:03.25 | Legorol | There's no need |
| 02:03.27 | Tem | why not? |
| 02:03.31 | Legorol | I mean it's cool, but... why bother |
| 02:03.35 | bleeter | people change mains, and petition GMs |
| 02:03.47 | Legorol | well you had a choice of pet per char |
| 02:03.48 | bleeter | not so infrequent request, it'd seem from my reading of US GM forum |
| 02:03.53 | Legorol | if you change main, the pet changes |
| 02:04.04 | Legorol | i mean live with the choice :o) |
| 02:04.40 | Tenchworks | not every care for the choice they want everything |
| 02:04.46 | Tenchworks | *everyone |
| 02:05.21 | Legorol | so let me get this straight: in order to be able to give all 3 pets to a new char i create in the future, i should make sure to have the 3 pets banked? |
| 02:05.23 | bleeter | it's inconsequetial really, and increases the desirability of CEs. Last lot still ain't sold out afaik |
| 02:05.30 | Legorol | if i destroy some of them, i'm basically screwed, right? |
| 02:05.48 | Tenchworks | such is the world we live that greed rules some peoples lives |
| 02:05.49 | Legorol | bleeter: are you saying there are still classic WoW CE-s out there? |
| 02:05.53 | Tem | Legorol, no |
| 02:06.00 | bleeter | Legorol: not classic, BC still |
| 02:06.02 | Tem | you can buy back lost pets from the stable paster |
| 02:06.05 | Tenchworks | if you destroy one you can go to a stable master to get it back |
| 02:06.07 | Legorol | bleeter: BC didn't have a pet choice |
| 02:06.09 | Legorol | only classic |
| 02:06.11 | Tem | (for one-time pets only) |
| 02:06.16 | Tenchworks | not all pets just rare/quest ones |
| 02:06.27 | bleeter | Legorol: oh, i think i missed a point of yours there, apologies |
| 02:06.36 | Legorol | np |
| 02:06.51 | Legorol | hm, come to think of it, doesn't matter that i can buy it back.. |
| 02:06.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Legorol: (yes, there are still WoW CEs out there, somewhere..) |
| 02:06.58 | Legorol | if i create a new char, i can always just create it 3 times |
| 02:07.02 | Legorol | and take a different one each time |
| 02:07.10 | Legorol | mail to another char, collect it, done |
| 02:07.17 | bleeter | anyways, as long as there's some record, the GMs can prolly accomodate the new ruleset, even if the new stablemaster functionality can't help |
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| 02:08.44 | Legorol | What I don't understand though is why is the Netherwhelp account bound too? |
| 02:08.52 | Legorol | Every char gets one and no choice involved |
| 02:09.15 | NightHawkTheSane | it may have been a byproduct of the change to make blizzcon/wwi stuff account bound |
| 02:09.27 | Legorol | hm, why make those account bound? |
| 02:09.28 | NightHawkTheSane | it may have been for future developments.. *srhug* |
| 02:09.39 | Legorol | I understood the argument to make things account bound that involve a choice.. |
| 02:10.12 | NightHawkTheSane | were the blizzcon/wwi stuff able to be picked up on multiple toons? |
| 02:10.18 | kd3 | no |
| 02:10.18 | Legorol | they weren't? |
| 02:10.21 | kd3 | just one character |
| 02:10.23 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ |
| 02:10.25 | Legorol | oh i see, that makes a difference |
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| 02:11.21 | Osstia|mac | I have been googling, without much luck. Does anyone know of a place to find example dogtags for cowtip? I have found example screenshots, but not the actual tags |
| 02:11.33 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:12.29 | Osstia|mac | throws an error |
| 02:12.34 | Osstia|mac | i did try that one :) |
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| 02:18.03 | Legorol | Has anyone figured out how to make an event in the in-game calendar such that people can sign up to it without invitation? |
| 02:18.37 | Legorol | People only seem to be able to see my events if i make sure to invite them, but I'd like it the other way around: people voluntarily signing up |
| 02:19.21 | Sixen | Did they remove Frostfire Bolt? |
| 02:19.21 | Legorol | and before you ask why don't i just mass invite the whole guild: the invite list has a cap of 100 and we have more than 100 chars in the guild |
| 02:21.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Sixen: ... no..? |
| 02:21.09 | Legorol | With regards to the CE pets: the stable master is not helping me get them back |
| 02:21.13 | Sixen | So hrm? Am I blind? |
| 02:21.14 | Legorol | Is there a specific one I'd need to go to? |
| 02:21.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Sixen: probably. the first rank is at 75, you know. |
| 02:22.31 | Sixen | Yeah.. I'm not seeing it.. Shouldn't it be on live with the new Talents? |
| 02:22.53 | Sixen | Oh wait.. It's not a talent, amirite? |
| 02:22.59 | NightHawkTheSane | ... |
| 02:23.02 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, its a trained ability |
| 02:23.29 | Sixen | =( |
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| 02:32.16 | Kraps | Berserker Rage in all stances /needs to manually restart breating |
| 02:33.05 | Aznamir | kek... someone forgot to remove 'self' reference from FrameXML |
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| 02:35.39 | kontroll | Holy crap @ imba retri. :O |
| 02:37.50 | Shirik|zZz | 917 spirit |
| 02:37.52 | Shirik|zZz | need more |
| 02:40.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik|zZz: i hate you. i may also hate blizzard |
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| 02:44.07 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm. Has anyone had any issues with arkInventory complaining about needing Blizzard_GuildBankUI? |
| 02:44.14 | NightHawkTheSane | (or something similar) |
| 02:44.16 | Kraps | hows this for prot? http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LZhLZMIdrxczidIzsGo |
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| 02:45.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Kraps: imo, parry > anything in fury.. but thats me |
| 02:45.35 | Atriace | lua> a = 16; b = 1; c = a - math.floor(a/b)*b; print(c) |
| 02:45.35 | lua_bot | Atriace: 0 |
| 02:45.43 | NightHawkTheSane | course, i'd also say why spec prot bfore 70 :P |
| 02:45.44 | Atriace | lua> a = 16; b = 17; c = a - math.floor(a/b)*b; print(c) |
| 02:45.44 | lua_bot | Atriace: 16 |
| 02:45.46 | Kraps | you dont think more crit is better? |
| 02:45.53 | Atriace | lua> a = 16; b = 33; c = a - math.floor(a/b)*b; print(c) |
| 02:45.54 | lua_bot | Atriace: 16 |
| 02:46.03 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* depends on your goal, really |
| 02:46.23 | Syzgyn | Kraps: |
| 02:46.25 | Syzgyn | er |
| 02:46.26 | NightHawkTheSane | as a tank, i tend to value survivability more than threat, but i know some tanks prefer threat |
| 02:46.32 | Kraps | [10:45:48]<NightHawkTheSane>course, i'd also say why spec prot bfore 70 :P /falls off chair |
| 02:46.44 | Syzgyn | Get rid of imp revenge, max out cruelty then put the rest in parry |
| 02:47.13 | Kraps | Syzgyn: too much win in imp revenge |
| 02:47.26 | Kraps | for questing |
| 02:47.27 | Syzgyn | It |
| 02:47.31 | Syzgyn | It's still a pvp talent |
| 02:47.39 | Syzgyn | and prot doesnt need yet another stun |
| 02:47.48 | NightHawkTheSane | well, the 20% damage bump makes it not shabby for threat, either. |
| 02:48.06 | NightHawkTheSane | but yeah, its not a must have talent for pve, really |
| 02:48.07 | Syzgyn | If threat were at all an issue anymore, I'd agree |
| 02:48.22 | Syzgyn | but it's kind of stupid how much threat wars are putting out now |
| 02:48.40 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i haven't tanked or raided since the patch.. |
| 02:48.53 | Syzgyn | I did ZG and AQ20 today with 9 people |
| 02:49.02 | Syzgyn | our MT held aggro without even trying |
| 02:49.07 | Kraps | so threats not an issue, so i'll drop cruelty (for now) and take parry |
| 02:49.16 | Gnarfoz | our ex 2nd MT who left in a hissy fit some time ago told me he was tanking MH with 3.3k tps |
| 02:49.22 | Gnarfoz | xD |
| 02:49.25 | Syzgyn | cruelty will help more with leveling |
| 02:49.46 | Kraps | not sure about dodge though |
| 02:50.20 | kd3 | eesh |
| 02:50.28 | kd3 | memories of raiding naxx before the hw fixes |
| 02:50.33 | Kraps | Syzgyn: but i want to do dungeons too |
| 02:51.09 | Kraps | hence parry |
| 02:51.33 | Kraps | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LZhLZMIdrxczidIzsGo ? |
| 02:52.01 | Kraps | no thats wrong |
| 02:52.23 | Kraps | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LVZ0oZVIurx0zidIzsGo |
| 02:53.11 | Kraps | shit i linked to the wrong builds |
| 02:53.21 | Kraps | the last one is right |
| 02:54.03 | Shirik|zZz | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 02:54.04 | Kraps | what do you think? |
| 02:54.11 | Shirik|zZz | ~~~~~~~~ |
| 02:54.11 | purl | You know, this got old a long time ago. |
| 02:54.14 | Shirik|zZz | :( |
| 02:54.21 | Kraps | lol |
| 02:54.57 | Kraps | lets try it |
| 02:55.06 | |Jelly| | [2] [Kratoz]: <Fecal Matter> is a new, serious guild looking forward to getting level 65+ geared up for the expansion. Starting In T4 content and gradually going to move up. We Will continue to raid through the X-pac. Pst Kratoz for more Info. |
| 02:55.08 | |Jelly| | ... |
| 02:55.22 | Shirik|zZz | wtf |
| 02:55.26 | Shirik|zZz | why would you call yourself that |
| 02:55.28 | Kraps | <Fecal Matter> is a new, *serious* guild |
| 02:55.34 | Kraps | you can tell |
| 02:55.40 | Syzgyn | Kraps: Armored to the Teeth > Crit and parry |
| 02:55.47 | Kraps | ... |
| 02:56.10 | Syzgyn | You get like, 200AP out of 3 talent points |
| 02:56.11 | Kraps | what, changing the story now? |
| 02:56.16 | Syzgyn | eh? |
| 02:56.20 | Kraps | lol |
| 02:56.47 | Kraps | i need wardrobe :( |
| 02:57.45 | Legorol | Wardrobe is not actively maintained right now |
| 02:57.51 | Legorol | when Karl has some time, he might update it |
| 02:58.20 | Kraps | O_O |
| 02:58.29 | Kraps | so what do i use? |
| 02:59.39 | Tem | Itemrack is quite nice |
| 02:59.40 | Kraps | Syzgyn: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LcZhZVIurx0zidIzsGo |
| 02:59.58 | Kraps | Tem: is it on curse? |
| 03:00.05 | Tem | wouldn't know |
| 03:00.09 | Tem | I avoid curse like the plague |
| 03:00.13 | Tem | it's definitely on wowi, though |
| 03:00.39 | Kraps | wowwiki? |
| 03:01.05 | Tem | wowinterface |
| 03:01.11 | Kraps | ah |
| 03:01.31 | Syzgyn | Kraps: Personally I'd do this if I was deadset on leveling prot http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LZhLZVIuMxczVdIzsGo |
| 03:02.07 | Syzgyn | DW Devastate spam |
| 03:02.38 | Legorol | how about a nice and useful TG build? |
| 03:02.46 | Syzgyn | Uhh |
| 03:02.54 | Syzgyn | Depends, whats your gear level? |
| 03:03.15 | Legorol | Syzgyn: those 3 points in Anticipation should be in Deflection |
| 03:03.20 | Legorol | 3% either way, but Parry is better |
| 03:03.31 | Kraps | again, i want to tank too |
| 03:03.44 | Syzgyn | Kinda cant move them |
| 03:03.45 | Legorol | 3 pts in Anticipation -> 3% Dodge |
| 03:03.47 | NightHawkTheSane | you realy dont need a specialized build to tank anything pre-70 |
| 03:03.52 | Legorol | 3 pts in Deflection -> 3% Parry |
| 03:04.04 | Legorol | I don't see why would you ever choose to spend the 3 pts in Anticipation instead of Deflection |
| 03:04.10 | Legorol | if you have to choose that is |
| 03:04.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Legorol: to get further down prot? :P |
| 03:04.22 | Legorol | NightHawkTheSane: not needed |
| 03:04.22 | Syzgyn | It's obviously not a 70 build |
| 03:04.32 | Legorol | Syzgyn: irrelevant |
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| 03:04.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Legorol: i didnt look closely, i was just saying :p |
| 03:04.44 | Legorol | you can take the talent build as it is, and move those 3 points from deflection to anticipation |
| 03:04.45 | Kraps | NightHawkTheSane: it's just me overthinking again |
| 03:04.49 | Legorol | you don't lose anything whatsoever |
| 03:04.53 | Syzgyn | Legorol: No, you cant |
| 03:05.01 | Kraps | Legorol: really? |
| 03:05.02 | Syzgyn | 51pts in prot total |
| 03:05.03 | Legorol | hm |
| 03:05.09 | Legorol | oh right |
| 03:05.10 | Syzgyn | cant move anything out of prot |
| 03:05.14 | Legorol | fair enuff |
| 03:05.21 | Kraps | i would take out pucture |
| 03:05.23 | Syzgyn | Otherwise, yes, I'd agree |
| 03:05.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Legorol: hah! :D |
| 03:05.26 | Legorol | nvm then :) |
| 03:05.32 | Legorol | NightHawkTheSane: i only checked the first two tiers |
| 03:05.33 | Syzgyn | Noway Kraps |
| 03:05.41 | Legorol | anyway |
| 03:05.47 | Syzgyn | Puncture = win |
| 03:05.48 | Legorol | i got awesome dps gear, so give me a TG build :) |
| 03:05.54 | Syzgyn | 9 rage devastates |
| 03:06.17 | Legorol | Puncture is insane :) |
| 03:06.20 | Legorol | has been before 3.0 too |
| 03:06.36 | Kraps | i did have it pre 3.0 |
| 03:06.37 | Legorol | a 25% cost reduction on your primary dps ability |
| 03:06.48 | NightHawkTheSane | back when it was imp sunder armor |
| 03:06.53 | Kraps | yes |
| 03:06.55 | Legorol | aye |
| 03:07.26 | Legorol | rofl, a hunter just ran past with a Core Hound as pet |
| 03:07.28 | Syzgyn | Legorol: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LG0hZhxb0E0ubeRVzAo |
| 03:07.48 | Syzgyn | with 1 point left for whatever |
| 03:07.51 | Legorol | Syzgyn: looks pvp-ish |
| 03:07.51 | Kraps | so all you guys disagree on is cruelty <->parry |
| 03:07.53 | Legorol | why would i take iron will? |
| 03:08.00 | Syzgyn | Filler really |
| 03:08.15 | Syzgyn | Move em into TM if you want |
| 03:08.29 | Kraps | and i AM taking imp revenge |
| 03:08.32 | Legorol | moving to Enrage seems better |
| 03:08.47 | Legorol | if i'm soloing |
| 03:08.53 | Legorol | for a raid, i'd move them to imp. zerk rage |
| 03:08.54 | Syzgyn | At 80 it turns into http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LG0fzfhZhxb0E0ubeRVzAo |
| 03:09.09 | Legorol | bah, 80 is miles away :o) |
| 03:09.15 | Syzgyn | just saying :P |
| 03:09.33 | Syzgyn | Personally I'm not bothering with raiding TG till 80 |
| 03:09.37 | Kraps | zerker rage is usable is any stance!!!! |
| 03:09.44 | Legorol | Kraps: imp. revenge is awesome for 5-mans/heroics |
| 03:09.53 | Syzgyn | Imp zerker rage is still crappy |
| 03:09.54 | Legorol | i always loved it, even when it was 3 points |
| 03:09.59 | Kraps | Legorol: and pvp |
| 03:10.13 | Legorol | Kraps: i don't pvp, and pvp even less as prot ;-) |
| 03:10.19 | Syzgyn | It's lost alot of its appeal now that prot has shockwave |
| 03:10.34 | kd3 | rofl. people are linking BoA and t7 stuff in /2 |
| 03:10.35 | Legorol | Syzgyn: thanks for the TG link |
| 03:10.44 | Syzgyn | np |
| 03:10.49 | Kraps | you should try it, i havent but i can imagine... |
| 03:10.53 | Legorol | i don't raid fury (being one of the MTs), but i'm looking for something to have fun with for soloing |
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| 03:11.10 | Legorol | Kraps: i have tried pvp as prot, that's why i don't do it :P |
| 03:11.23 | Kraps | Legorol: now? |
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| 03:12.22 | Syzgyn | Prot for PvP is awesome now |
| 03:12.29 | Kraps | Legorol: so you're saying i should drop anticipation completly? |
| 03:12.34 | Syzgyn | and arms for PvP is borderline bad |
| 03:12.40 | jaxdahl | is there a macro to mount up when the pet/mount display isn't working? |
| 03:12.49 | Kraps | it seems wrong somehow... |
| 03:12.50 | Legorol | Kraps: i haven't tried pvp yet in 3.0, no |
| 03:12.51 | Tem | and Fury is borderline INSANLY OP |
| 03:12.53 | Syzgyn | Kraps: Honestly it matters so little |
| 03:12.59 | Legorol | but now i actually think it will work |
| 03:13.05 | Syzgyn | you're gonna have a quite different spec at 70 |
| 03:13.09 | Legorol | as for anticipation: depends on gear level |
| 03:13.16 | Legorol | with my tank gear, i'll spend those points on more fun utility |
| 03:13.19 | NightHawkTheSane | jaxdahl: /cast Mount Name |
| 03:13.20 | Kraps | Syzgyn: alright |
| 03:13.54 | Kraps | i think this is my final http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LcZhZVIzrxczidIzsGo |
| 03:15.36 | jaxdahl | NightHawkTheSane, isn't working for my friend |
| 03:15.56 | NightHawkTheSane | worked fine for me just now *shrug* |
| 03:18.37 | jaxdahl | GetNumCompanions returned 1 for him.. having him run GetCompanionInfo now.. |
| 03:18.51 | Kraps | Legorol: http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=45489 |
| 03:21.21 | jaxdahl | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:21.26 | jaxdahl | strange |
| 03:21.37 | NightHawkTheSane | ... |
| 03:21.40 | NightHawkTheSane | they start with 1. |
| 03:21.46 | jaxdahl | oh do they |
| 03:22.05 | jaxdahl | who the heck starts indices with 1 |
| 03:22.09 | NightHawkTheSane | lua |
| 03:23.11 | Cairenn | have I mentioned lately that I hate people? |
| 03:23.22 | Cairenn | PM title: "what mods are available for the game now" |
| 03:23.22 | Cairenn | text: "with this new patch and i'm not talking the beta or ptr what mods are updated now?" |
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| 03:23.33 | Cairenn | my response: |
| 03:23.40 | Cairenn | "Have you checked any of the huge number of ways we have all the updated mods listed? Perhaps that huge list that showed up when you first arrived on the site? Or maybe the Survival Guide? Theoretically even clicking on the "updated" list?" |
| 03:25.05 | Syzgyn | NightHawkTheSane: Was it you who suggested tooltips for my Pet frame mod? |
| 03:25.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Syzgyn: yes |
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| 03:25.33 | Syzgyn | Just got em implemented, once wowi is more stable I'll upload it :) |
| 03:25.39 | NightHawkTheSane | cool :) |
| 03:28.14 | Kraps | revenge: 1091 to 1277 damage... AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 03:28.48 | Kraps | can you say, DOUBLE PRE 3.0?? |
| 03:30.57 | NightHawkTheSane | well, yeah? given that it doesn't do additional threat anymore.. |
| 03:31.07 | Kraps | anyone notice that the horse animation is different? |
| 03:31.56 | Kraps | in a bad kind of way |
| 03:32.20 | Kraps | looks like its gonna fall over any step now |
| 03:33.15 | Kraps | oh shi* the harbor! /runs |
| 03:35.13 | Legorol | I'm scared... 2.5k ww hits with TG |
| 03:35.15 | Legorol | that is insane |
| 03:36.27 | Kraps | the harbor... |
| 03:37.02 | Kraps | no shops? :( |
| 03:37.55 | ScytheBlade1 | So in Hyjal |
| 03:38.01 | ScytheBlade1 | We're just tanking -everything at once- |
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| 03:38.48 | Shirik|zZz | ScytheBlade1: I can forcibly mask something, right? |
| 03:38.53 | Shirik|zZz | Like if I want to forcibly mask emacs |
| 03:38.55 | Shirik|zZz | in portage |
| 03:38.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Mask? |
| 03:38.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh |
| 03:40.11 | ScytheBlade1 | package.mask |
| 03:40.15 | ScytheBlade1 | iirc |
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| 03:41.54 | Shirik|zZz | muahaha |
| 03:41.55 | Shirik|zZz | !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "app-editors/emacs" have been masked. |
| 03:41.57 | Shirik|zZz | Beautiful |
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| 03:42.56 | elite3vil | ScytheBlade1: Isn't that what people normally do in Hyjal? |
| 03:43.31 | ScytheBlade1 | elite3vil: before the patch, some people had a sembleance of tanks picking up things like aboms |
| 03:43.34 | ScytheBlade1 | No more |
| 03:44.11 | kd3 | ya, hyjal was a joke. bt's proving easily amusing |
| 03:44.53 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: out of curiosity, do you guys already have hyjal on farm? |
| 03:45.11 | ScytheBlade1 | NightHawkTheSane: all but archi. I kinda hope that changes tonight |
| 03:45.13 | Shirik|zZz | We just cleared BT in 3 hours |
| 03:45.16 | NightHawkTheSane | ah |
| 03:46.22 | Kraps | shadows are broken... |
| 03:48.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Replenishment is -awesome- |
| 03:49.39 | Amarande | well, I didn't get chocolate cake, again, but I did get stormchops |
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| 03:54.41 | Amarande | and somehow managed to not get lost in gnomeregan |
| 03:55.40 | Amarande | there are few things more fun than getting to go berserk with SoC with reckless abandon in Gnomer. :) |
| 03:56.23 | NightHawkTheSane | gnomergan's not that confusing once your inside |
| 03:56.46 | kontroll | I got my ass handed to me by a protadin. :O |
| 03:56.48 | kontroll | Insanity. |
| 03:57.11 | Kraps | kontroll: what are you? |
| 03:57.17 | kontroll | Retardin |
| 03:57.25 | Kraps | lolret |
| 03:57.33 | Kraps | arent you op? |
| 03:57.35 | Kraps | jk |
| 03:57.35 | kontroll | Level 60, haven't PVPed before either... so obviously I'm going to suck. |
| 03:57.45 | kontroll | But this was embarrasing. |
| 03:57.53 | kontroll | Oh, hell yes it's OP now. |
| 03:58.06 | Amarande | hmm |
| 03:58.08 | kontroll | I do 3-4 mobs at a time without breaking a sweat. :O |
| 03:58.11 | Amarande | auctioneer is a bit glitchy |
| 03:58.15 | NightHawkTheSane | prot pallys did get some nice buffs, though :p |
| 03:58.19 | kontroll | 2 mobs before had me hemorrhaging mana. |
| 03:58.20 | Amarande | it's referring to trade goods as glyphs in the tooltips |
| 03:58.45 | kontroll | s/before/before the patch |
| 03:58.47 | Legorol | wow, i have to learn to play my warrior from scratch |
| 03:58.59 | Amarande | I somehow managed to get lost in Stormwind while looking for the Stocks, and yet still only suffered one kill from a player so far since patch |
| 03:59.06 | Legorol | i was never much good at Fury, but now it's dynamics got even weirder |
| 03:59.14 | Legorol | s/it's/its/ |
| 03:59.16 | NightHawkTheSane | i still think the JotW change was a bit much |
| 03:59.21 | Amarande | Apparently Quel'dorei must have a Horde majority, judging by the lack of activity in SW during an evening |
| 03:59.35 | Kraps | zomg no questhelper O_o |
| 03:59.36 | Legorol | NightHawkTheSane: which change? |
| 03:59.42 | Legorol | didn't they nerf it in the end? |
| 03:59.44 | Amarande | kraps: I use questguru now anyway |
| 03:59.53 | Kraps | it works? |
| 04:00.00 | Amarande | used to use QuestsFu, but I switched from FuBar to Titan Panel because the addons for Titan Panel were ready sooner |
| 04:00.17 | Amarande | yeah, get the version from curse |
| 04:00.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Legorol: judgements grant 33% of base mana |
| 04:01.06 | NightHawkTheSane | i think that actually MAY be nerfed from when i last saw it |
| 04:01.08 | kontroll | Spamming judgements = easymode mana refill. |
| 04:01.09 | NightHawkTheSane | so *shrug* |
| 04:01.32 | kontroll | Also, the art of war retri talent == hokay. |
| 04:02.20 | kontroll | Instant flash of light. Not free, but if the instant-spell mana cost reduction affects the flash when it's in insta-mode, it's damn near free. |
| 04:02.39 | kontroll | + judgement of light == heal procs. +divine storm = heal AOE. |
| 04:02.55 | kontroll | -sanity |
| 04:03.05 | Legorol | Thank god for CTRA being discontinued, and Omen being in beta! |
| 04:03.15 | Legorol | I finally don't have to use them |
| 04:03.26 | NightHawkTheSane | i should eat something |
| 04:03.44 | kontroll | As for QuestHelper; Carbonite Quest works on WotLK. It's ugly as sin, but it's a decent addon anyway. |
| 04:05.08 | kontroll | Oh, I got my lovely oUF style "done" today with the help of some people in here. :D |
| 04:05.28 | kontroll | Only thing that annoys me is the missing sound when I select a target. |
| 04:05.34 | Amarande | hmm |
| 04:05.48 | Amarande | I'm assuming that glyphs work like enchants, they can be overwritten but not removed? |
| 04:06.01 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 04:06.03 | kontroll | Probably. |
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| 04:06.21 | ambethia | Amarande: correct |
| 04:06.32 | NightHawkTheSane | also, i have to do my reasearch for today.. |
| 04:06.33 | Kraps | wiat qh 3.0 is out |
| 04:06.48 | ambethia | Amarande: and you can only apply them in town, by the thingamagigs |
| 04:06.55 | NightHawkTheSane | lexicon of power |
| 04:07.00 | kd3 | my gods... what a joke ros was |
| 04:07.01 | ambethia | thats is |
| 04:07.24 | Kraps | and cartographer |
| 04:07.29 | Kraps | yays! |
| 04:07.52 | kontroll | Wut? |
| 04:07.56 | kontroll | Yum! |
| 04:09.56 | Amarande | there one of those in undercity, or do I have to hop over to org |
| 04:10.24 | kontroll | ? |
| 04:10.27 | Amarande | a lexicon |
| 04:10.32 | NightHawkTheSane | i believe there's one in every major city, but you should be able to ask a guard. |
| 04:10.33 | kontroll | Ask the guards. |
| 04:11.02 | kontroll | I only know where the Org one is because I had to equip my imba retardin with glyphs. :P |
| 04:11.12 | kontroll | Haven't specced nor glyphed my main yet. :( |
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| 04:12.24 | kontroll | Bedtime. Nn |
| 04:15.26 | Amarande | yay soulstones that restore 11k+ health |
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| 04:22.55 | Kraps | prots not fun |
| 04:23.26 | Kraps | jk |
| 04:23.58 | Kraps | killing things by hiting them 3 times is fun |
| 04:25.19 | Amarande | hmm, looks like armory isn't being updated yet. |
| 04:28.44 | Kraps | they need to update the tooltip on charge |
| 04:30.59 | Atriace | I wish there was a way to define a variable inside a table without having to reference the but once within a block. When you think about it, the only way to simply type "foo = 1" is either by expecting foo to register as a global or by locally defining it beforehand within the block. |
| 04:32.38 | Atriace | If you could just do something like "namespace = db" and then everything inside of the block be registered in that namespace by default rather than the _G table, that'd be awesome. |
| 04:34.00 | Amarande | so far, I only have the 'extra healthstone healing', 'extra soulstone health', and 'occasional extra soulshard' glyphs on my lock |
| 04:35.02 | Atriace | ... nobody happens to know if there is an method for that, right? |
| 04:36.36 | Amarande | none of the other warlock glyphs available on ah right now seem useful to an aff lock |
| 04:38.52 | Amarande | actually, *are* there really any other lock glyphs right now that are useful for deep aff spec? |
| 04:39.01 | Amarande | like ... 56/5/0 |
| 04:39.37 | Iriel | Atriace: You mean something other that using setfenv? |
| 04:40.04 | Atriace | Iriel: Haven't heard of it. I'll go look it up. |
| 04:40.12 | Iriel | Atriace: setfenv(0, sometable) |
| 04:40.20 | Iriel | makes sometable your new global environmnet |
| 04:40.25 | Iriel | (spelled correctly) |
| 04:40.39 | Atriace | :D |
| 04:41.02 | Atriace | dude... you rock |
| 04:41.12 | Atriace | So does Lua. |
| 04:41.20 | Iriel | Note that you'll lose access to the normal _G, so save a local copy if you may need it later |
| 04:41.56 | Aznamir | Could someone explain me, what do I need to add to my mod .lua/.toc file for the curseforge packager to plug in a revision/tag information there so I could show it to the mod user? |
| 04:42.13 | Atriace | Iriel: This only affects the scope of the function/block in which setfenv is called in, right? |
| 04:42.23 | Iriel | Atriace: Correct |
| 04:42.53 | Iriel | err.. I think 8-) |
| 04:43.01 | Shirik | Atriace: If you're going to mess with the global table, be sure to save your addon settings |
| 04:43.16 | Shirik | a spurious setfenv(0, {}) will cause you to lose everything :) |
| 04:43.59 | Kraps | shockwave is nice |
| 04:44.02 | Iriel | Atriace: Actually no, setfenv(0) affects everyone who has the same global environment |
| 04:44.23 | Kraps | (by nice i mean LOLPWNMOBSFTW) |
| 04:44.57 | Iriel | Atriace: You want setfenv(1, sometable) to alter just the current block, IIRC |
| 04:45.01 | Shirik | Atriace: If you only want to affect your current scope, do setfenv(1... |
| 04:45.01 | Amarande | Kraps: LOLPWNMOBSFTW almost sounds like a Windows function name |
| 04:45.27 | Atriace | Yeah, I just saw that in the manual. |
| 04:45.29 | Kraps | it might just be one |
| 04:45.29 | Atriace | Thank you both. |
| 04:45.30 | Amarande | except those would probably end in FTL |
| 04:45.34 | Kraps | lol |
| 04:45.45 | Kraps | fanboy |
| 04:47.34 | Atriace | Since setfenv returns the function if f=1, I would set the function environment outside of the function first? I'm assuming once set, unless reset, it stays set to 1? |
| 04:47.35 | Dewin | *me prods wowi with a pointy sick* |
| 04:47.46 | Dewin | s/sick/stick/ |
| 04:47.51 | Shirik | Dewin: already on it |
| 04:47.58 | Dewin | k, good to know ;) |
| 04:49.16 | Tem | So, I'm leveling my alt shaman |
| 04:49.43 | Tem | but since I haven't leveled anything in forever on live, my ui doesn't have an exp bar |
| 04:49.57 | Tem | every time I level, it's a surprize |
| 04:50.06 | Amarande | Tem: time to get ExperienceFu or Titan Panel |
| 04:50.21 | Tem | I will not use either of those addons |
| 04:50.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Tem: that sounds like an unhealthy amount of fun |
| 04:50.27 | Amarande | I'm not sure if ExperienceFu is ready for 3.0 yet |
| 04:50.39 | Tem | wouldn't matter if it was |
| 04:51.01 | Shirik | Dewin: some rerouting was done. Try again |
| 04:51.10 | Shirik | Don't refresh the page, go back to where you were |
| 04:51.18 | Shirik | then click the link again |
| 04:51.46 | Shirik | let me know if it works or not please |
| 04:51.59 | Amarande | Tem: what's wrong with Titan Panel? |
| 04:52.11 | Tem | have you looked at the code? |
| 04:52.16 | Shirik | lol |
| 04:52.27 | Amarande | besides the fact that I've rapidly found it's way too small for all the info I'm used to. :) |
| 04:52.55 | Amarande | Tem: Goblin Engineering FTW. :) |
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| 04:54.34 | Iriel | Atriace: the '1' is telling setfenv which function to use in the call stack |
| 04:54.57 | Iriel | Calling setfenv(1, T) inside the function is the same as calling setfenv(func, T) outside |
| 04:55.00 | Iriel | (more or less) |
| 04:55.23 | Atriace | that sounds like a table key |
| 04:57.22 | Atriace | That may have confused the issue for me. I though "1" refered to the level of the locality inside the block that called it. |
| 04:58.27 | Atriace | Still more confusing is how you would actually use setfenv, the manual states that f can be the name of the function, but alternatively 1. How do you define the function if f = 1? |
| 04:58.52 | Atriace | ah, I got it. |
| 04:59.04 | Shirik | f = 1 is the top of the call stack (i.e., the current function) |
| 04:59.10 | Shirik | f = 2 is the function that called the current function |
| 04:59.12 | Shirik | etc. |
| 04:59.12 | Atriace | Ok, so you call setfenv(1) within the function you need the locality. |
| 04:59.18 | Iriel | yes |
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| 05:04.51 | Atriace | Shirik: one last question. If our function is located within a table (e.g., db.fooFunc) do the variables set inside the function get saved to the same table (e.g., "var=1" = "db.var=1")? |
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| 05:05.24 | Shirik | it has no relationship to the table |
| 05:05.30 | Shirik | it is the function that gets adjusted |
| 05:05.41 | Shirik | so all references to that function (including those in tables) will follow the same environment |
| 05:05.54 | Atriace | wait... the function becomes a table? |
| 05:06.03 | Shirik | no |
| 05:06.21 | Shirik | every function (technically every closure) has a table related to it: Its environment |
| 05:06.29 | Shirik | you're changing that table |
| 05:06.38 | Shirik | If you don't set it, it's just the global table (_G) |
| 05:06.57 | Shirik | But... for example |
| 05:07.00 | Atriace | oh... so, it's becoming a complete different table altogether. |
| 05:07.52 | Atriace | As opposed to just scoping further down to the same level as the function. |
| 05:07.53 | Shirik | lua> function foo() print("A = ", a); end; a = 4; t = {}; t.foo = foo; foo(); t.foo(); setfenv(foo, {a = 1}); foo(); t.foo(); |
| 05:07.53 | lua_bot | Shirik: A = , 4, A = , 4, luabot:1: attempt to call global 'print' (a nil value) |
| 05:08.01 | Shirik | lua> function foo() print("A = ", a); end; a = 4; t = {}; t.foo = foo; foo(); t.foo(); setfenv(foo, {a = 1, print = print}); foo(); t.foo(); |
| 05:08.01 | lua_bot | Shirik: A = , 4, A = , 4, A = , 1, A = , 1 |
| 05:08.15 | Shirik | As you can see, ALL references to that function use the newly specified environment |
| 05:08.19 | Shirik | not just the one you set |
| 05:08.26 | Shirik | t.foo == foo, therefore they both use the new a = 1 |
| 05:08.45 | Atriace | I see. |
| 05:08.58 | Shirik | am I making sense? |
| 05:09.03 | Atriace | You are. |
| 05:11.04 | Atriace | The MAIN problem I was looking at was I had a function being called very frequently (30+x per second). The function itself had some locals it created, but I didn't want to spawn rounds of variables with no pointers in the end. I wanted to reuse the same vars, but in an uncomplicated naming structure. |
| 05:11.06 | ambethia | Hrmmm, is there anything in the API to get the school of a spell, if so I'm not seeing it |
| 05:11.17 | Shirik | woah woah |
| 05:11.30 | Shirik | if you're talking about something being called very frequently, then using a global is a bad idea :) |
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| 05:11.59 | Shirik | Let's re-analyze your problem: What exactly are you trying to do |
| 05:11.59 | Atriace | Which global? |
| 05:12.00 | Nariana | Is anyone else having trouble with the chat bar being completly white while using cosmos? |
| 05:12.26 | Shirik | well, Atriace, setfenv() only affects globals so... |
| 05:12.40 | Shirik | it affects the environment table |
| 05:12.44 | Shirik | which is where globals are looked up |
| 05:12.57 | Atriace | egh.... |
| 05:13.06 | Atriace | Alright, give me a moment to type... |
| 05:13.06 | Shirik | (maybe global is a bad term, but that's what it is -- it's not entirely global because it's actually just whatever has access to that table) |
| 05:13.37 | Shirik | ambethia: I believe there is, but I can't come up with it off the top of my head |
| 05:13.37 | Nariana | No one having that problem with white chat bar that shows no chat? |
| 05:13.46 | Shirik | I had a similar problem Nariana |
| 05:13.50 | Shirik | do you use CT_RA? |
| 05:13.59 | Nariana | dont use anything CT |
| 05:14.03 | Shirik | what about prat? |
| 05:14.41 | Nariana | is he fixing the white bar or do you know what addon is causing it so i can disable it |
| 05:14.41 | ajmitch | Nariana: yes, but I suspect it's because I just installed a new CT_RA & others |
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| 05:15.08 | Shirik | I had a problem with CT_RA causing something like that, but if you don't use it... |
| 05:15.18 | Nariana | i dont know what CT_RA is |
| 05:15.24 | Shirik | CT_RaidAssist |
| 05:15.31 | ambethia | To get the school of a spell, Am I going to have to use some combination of GetSpellInfo and solve it with these masks, like, SCHOOL_MASK_HOLY= 0x02; a bitmask? |
| 05:15.37 | Nariana | i have X-perl |
| 05:15.41 | Nariana | and titan panels |
| 05:15.57 | Amarande | despite the "this is not ready, don't use it yadda" on the wowi site, the current beta of prat seems to work pretty awesomely |
| 05:16.02 | Atriace | Shirik: Since I know my function is being called very frequently, I want to keep it in a locally accessible realm (in my case, I'm using LibStub), but within the function itself, I want to re-use the same number of variables on every call. By not creating new ones, and not spawning locals, I can keep addon memory down and run faster. However, the second issue is for readability; I'd rather not reference "db.specialtable.var=1" when it |
| 05:17.10 | NightHawkTheSane | a local would be faster, and less memory than db.specialtable.var, wouldn't it? |
| 05:17.28 | Shirik | well you arrive at a tradeoff |
| 05:17.34 | Nariana | do you know what cosmos addon is causing it so i can disable it until its fixed? |
| 05:17.40 | Shirik | I would advise using a local and recreating it, Atriace |
| 05:17.55 | Shirik | every benchmark I've ever seen shows that the GC outperforms attempts to recycle |
| 05:18.00 | Nariana | only happend once i installed cosmos |
| 05:18.14 | Atriace | say what? really? |
| 05:18.25 | Shirik | Auctioneer recently did a lot of research into this :) |
| 05:18.29 | Atriace | Reusing the same table is slower than just spawning locals and using them? |
| 05:18.44 | Shirik | right, because you add a lookup |
| 05:18.47 | Atriace | Even if the nested table is locally accessed? |
| 05:18.48 | Shirik | and that's the problem part |
| 05:19.05 | Shirik | there's also generally a cleanup |
| 05:19.10 | Shirik | do you have to do any cleanup? |
| 05:19.21 | Atriace | I wouldn't know |
| 05:19.42 | Atriace | Define cleanup |
| 05:19.45 | Shirik | Like |
| 05:20.01 | Shirik | if you reuse a table, then you have to erase all elements in the table before you can use it on the next call |
| 05:20.03 | Shirik | etc. |
| 05:20.14 | Atriace | oh really? |
| 05:20.23 | Shirik | well that's dependent upon whatever you're doing |
| 05:20.24 | Shirik | that's why I ask |
| 05:20.26 | Kraps | mad rage generation |
| 05:20.34 | Atriace | I thought if table.a = 1 and you wanted it to be 2, then you'd just do table.a = 2 |
| 05:20.40 | Shirik | then you don't |
| 05:20.48 | Shirik | but sometimes you don't have a defined set of vars in the table |
| 05:20.54 | Shirik | so you have to ensure it's clean before reusing it |
| 05:20.58 | NightHawkTheSane | you would only have to do cleanup if having an EMPTY table is important |
| 05:21.01 | Shirik | it depends on what you're doing |
| 05:21.05 | Atriace | Not in my case, it's definite |
| 05:21.09 | Shirik | ok |
| 05:21.31 | Shirik | what you probably should do, then, is use an upvalue |
| 05:21.35 | Shirik | if I understand your problem |
| 05:22.31 | Shirik | Now, why did you move to using setfenv? |
| 05:22.38 | Atriace | so, local a; function foo() a = 1 end |
| 05:22.42 | Shirik | yes |
| 05:23.08 | Atriace | actually, the method I just typed above is exactly the effect I was looking for. |
| 05:23.24 | Shirik | ok good :) |
| 05:23.27 | Atriace | lol |
| 05:23.31 | Shirik | that's your best solution then |
| 05:23.53 | jaxdahl | man, lich king realm is dead now |
| 05:23.55 | jaxdahl | only 8 80s online |
| 05:24.08 | jaxdahl | 40 people total online from 1-80 alliance side |
| 05:24.44 | Atriace | I still don't understand why setfenv wouldn't produce the same result, though. Is it assumed to be just as large as _G? Do all functions that call setfenv(1) get pushed to the same "other" table? |
| 05:25.17 | ambethia | so much for having cast bars colored based on the spell school... I can't find anything in the API to do it, and I dont want to compile my own list |
| 05:25.30 | Shirik | it would produce the same result, Atriace, but GETGLOBAL is slower than GETUPVALUE |
| 05:26.33 | Atriace | lol, and since it's a global particular to the function, even though the table is as small as an upvalue's, the method GETGLOBAL is just slower in general... |
| 05:27.22 | Atriace | Thank you for the enlightenment. I thoroughly enjoyed it. |
| 05:27.41 | Shirik | there's some intricacies of Lua which can be sometimes confusing, feel free to ask :) |
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| 05:27.53 | Shirik | For example: A lot of people have an issue accepting the fact that using locals is free |
| 05:28.34 | Atriace | I have to ask: what do you mean by "free"? |
| 05:28.38 | Shirik | Well |
| 05:29.06 | Shirik | Everything in Lua manipulates the Lua stack |
| 05:29.15 | Shirik | for example, to do: |
| 05:29.22 | Shirik | local a = foo(1,2); |
| 05:29.58 | Shirik | you do GETGLOBAL foo (pushes onto the stack the function), push values 1 and 2 onto the stack, perform a call, which then leaves on the stack one value which will from now on be considered "a" |
| 05:30.04 | Shirik | Locals don't actually exist |
| 05:30.11 | Shirik | They just happen to be some index on the stack |
| 05:30.28 | Shirik | And since every Lua operation references the stack, it's a free operation. It just has to say what stack index it is |
| 05:30.34 | Shirik | There's no "getting" the value, it's already there |
| 05:30.46 | Shirik | This is contrary to GETGLOBAL and GETUPVALUE which has to look up the values and push them onto the stack |
| 05:31.38 | Atriace | interesting |
| 05:32.07 | Legorol | also, that index can be determined at compile time |
| 05:32.18 | Shirik | was about to show that :) |
| 05:32.24 | Legorol | which is what's making that really free |
| 05:32.26 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/98414 |
| 05:32.41 | Shirik | Check the ADD operation. All it does is specify what the indexes are, it doesn't have to do any additional work |
| 05:32.54 | Shirik | also note that it makes no reference to "a" or "b", it just points to a stack index |
| 05:34.39 | Neuro_Medivh | so... are the prices on your servers for Glyphs reasonable, or have they gotten silly (along with herbalism prices) |
| 05:35.31 | Legorol | there's an unfortunate price to pay for this elegance in construction: |
| 05:35.31 | Legorol | it's impossible to concatenate lists |
| 05:38.56 | Syzgyn | Neuro_Medivh: Glyphs on my server are 30-50g |
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| 05:39.24 | Shirik | I'm not even bothering |
| 05:39.29 | Shirik | until prices normalize |
| 05:39.54 | Syzgyn | I gave my gm a ton of herbs to help him powerlevel his inscription |
| 05:39.58 | Syzgyn | so now he owes me :P |
| 05:40.05 | Atriace | grr... |
| 05:40.09 | Atriace | memory storage irks me in Lua |
| 05:40.24 | Atriace | lua> a=1 b=2 c=b b=a a=nil print(c) print(b) print(tostring(a)) |
| 05:40.24 | lua_bot | Atriace: 2, 1, nil |
| 05:40.26 | Neuro_Medivh | I found a way to make money on this silly glyph craze |
| 05:40.35 | Neuro_Medivh | first, I sold all my high lvl herbs for stupid prices |
| 05:40.38 | Atriace | lua> a={[1]="bunny"} b=a b[2]="soup" for k,v in pairs(a) do print(v) end |
| 05:40.38 | lua_bot | Atriace: bunny, soup |
| 05:40.41 | NightHawkTheSane | i need to sell off some of my spare herbs. |
| 05:40.56 | NightHawkTheSane | i farmed -far- too much of the 275-300 level herbs >.> |
| 05:41.13 | Neuro_Medivh | then, I made 3 low lvl alts into scribes, worked them up to 75ish, researched a minor glyph, sold it for MOOLAH |
| 05:41.51 | Neuro_Medivh | the most profitable glyph so far (not mine, sadly) was Penguin |
| 05:41.59 | NightHawkTheSane | no, really? :p |
| 05:42.29 | Neuro_Medivh | lol, now 4 people can make it, so it's not too high, but yesterday they were selling for 100+g and the guy kept running out |
| 05:42.37 | Atriace | if c=b=a and a=nil then c should = nil, but it doesn't. But when a={} and b=a and we set b[2] to something, a[2] is set to the same thing. How can this be? |
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| 05:42.48 | Shirik | not quite true |
| 05:42.55 | Shirik | you said c=b, then b=a |
| 05:43.06 | Atriace | oh... |
| 05:43.11 | Atriace | I failed |
| 05:43.13 | Shirik | b is 2, so c = 2 |
| 05:43.23 | Shirik | setting b to a (1) does not cause c to become 1 |
| 05:44.36 | Atriace | lua> a=1 b=a a=nil print(b) |
| 05:44.36 | lua_bot | Atriace: 1 |
| 05:44.56 | Atriace | no, that makes sense for some reason... |
| 05:45.39 | Shirik | I think you're thinking too hard now :) |
| 05:45.50 | Shirik | hahahaha, |
| 05:45.54 | Atriace | hehe |
| 05:45.55 | Shirik | I need to stop watching this |
| 05:46.06 | Atriace | I think I need to go to bed. |
| 05:46.18 | Atriace | I'll think better with some sleep under my belt. |
| 05:46.24 | Shirik | "It looks like they're doing a square dance" "No actually this is a square root dance" "What's that?" "I don't know, it's just the kind of thing that they would do if the smartest people got stuck together" |
| 05:46.34 | Shirik | and it's very sad I laughed at this |
| 05:47.11 | Shirik | night |
| 05:47.39 | Shirik | I think I might get some sleep too |
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| 05:49.46 | NightHawkTheSane | i always enjoy listening to Lament of the Highborne |
| 05:51.04 | Shirik|zZz | hearing it live was pretty awesome |
| 05:51.37 | MiximUmz | is wowmatrix good |
| 05:51.44 | NightHawkTheSane | live? |
| 05:51.50 | kd3 | mix; no |
| 05:51.52 | Shirik|zZz | NightHawkTheSane: They performed it at blizzcon |
| 05:52.00 | NightHawkTheSane | awesome. |
| 05:52.02 | MiximUmz | well shirik I like yours for wowi but it doesn't do all mine |
| 05:52.12 | Shirik|zZz | MiximUmz: Nobody likes mine, including me |
| 05:52.12 | kd3 | I've got the acoustic version on my cam. need to put it on youtube |
| 05:52.17 | kd3 | mix; so, try the curse client? |
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| 05:52.39 | MiximUmz | why? once i added them all manually it was fine |
| 05:52.44 | Shirik|zZz | really? |
| 05:52.50 | Shirik|zZz | I don't hear that very often, heh |
| 05:52.59 | morkii | itemsync discontinued? any new one with similar tooltips? |
| 05:53.09 | MiximUmz | yea it works great |
| 05:54.15 | Shirik|zZz | anyway, I need to go to sleep. MiximUmz: There are a lot of people that have serious problems with WoWMatrix |
| 05:54.20 | Shirik|zZz | that's all I'm going to say |
| 05:54.37 | Shirik|zZz | WoWMatrix works. Whether or not it SHOULD work is under debate. |
| 05:54.40 | NightHawkTheSane | only 42 stacks of runecloth to exalted silvermoon. >< |
| 05:54.44 | MiximUmz | I do wish there was one that did both sites though the part of the curse one where it says it uploads my character data makes me want to avoid that |
| 05:54.56 | kd3 | so uninstall the data exporter |
| 05:55.02 | Shirik|zZz | the new version that I am currently writing has the potential to work with all sites |
| 05:55.04 | kd3 | and bitch loudly that it got installed without your permission |
| 05:55.18 | Shirik|zZz | I will not write it to work with Curse, however it will have a plugin system such that if someon desired (including Curse staff) they could write a module for it to work |
| 05:55.35 | MiximUmz | I didn't install it at all because the site seems to hint that it is mainly for the data collection |
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| 05:56.03 | Thunder_Child | not mainly at all |
| 05:56.21 | MiximUmz | i like that idea shirik |
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| 05:56.39 | Shirik|zZz | I do too :) Just have to get it done now |
| 05:56.42 | Thunder_Child | make it good Shirik|zZz |
| 05:57.47 | Thunder_Child | Shirik|zZz, i want to alpha/beta test it as well |
| 05:58.00 | morkii | anybody know about itemsync ? |
| 05:58.37 | MiximUmz | i dont use that one murkii |
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| 06:00.11 | Shirik|zZz | ok tc |
| 06:03.28 | morkii | maybe my jedi skills will work *waves hand* you want to talk about itemsync |
| 06:04.48 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11228495574&postId=112273444247&sid=1#3 |
| 06:06.28 | Sixen | lol@kd3 |
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| 06:07.35 | Cairenn | http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ICanHasCheezburger/~3/mF-xAawpeVA/ |
| 06:07.56 | Cairenn | errrr |
| 06:08.02 | Cairenn | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/10/15/funny-pictures-iz-equal-opportunity-employer/ |
| 06:08.02 | kd3 | meh, I had a different macro of that in the 2.2 sticky iirc |
| 06:08.22 | kd3 | "the servers are broken? no worries, I'm on the job!" |
| 06:09.25 | Sixen | :P |
| 06:12.08 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, if that was a mouse you could say squeak squad |
| 06:13.51 | tardmrr | NOOOOOO |
| 06:14.04 | tardmrr | The Free Teleport to Theramore island quest is gone |
| 06:14.42 | Thunder_Child | I Can Has Pun? |
| 06:15.11 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: rofl |
| 06:15.43 | kd3 | tard; yah. been that way for a while now |
| 06:15.44 | Thunder_Child | pity laugh huh Cairenn? |
| 06:16.00 | Cairenn | no, just was delayed due to other conversations |
| 06:16.22 | Thunder_Child | pfft, wowuidev > * |
| 06:18.11 | ZealotOnAStick | So yeah . . . BIG raid content nerf. |
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| 06:18.41 | kd3 | ya |
| 06:18.50 | kd3 | hyjal/bt was rather hilarious tonight |
| 06:19.12 | ZealotOnAStick | We've been working on Kil'Jaden for about 2 months now. |
| 06:19.26 | ZealotOnAStick | Our best attempt was like 38% before patch. |
| 06:19.30 | ZealotOnAStick | and we one-shot him tonight. |
| 06:19.43 | Industrial | lolbuffpatch |
| 06:19.57 | ZealotOnAStick | for some folks. |
| 06:20.08 | ZealotOnAStick | Nerfed the fuck out of our locks. Thus far, anyway. |
| 06:20.11 | Ryutsuki | does anyone know if anyone has taken on updating the PartyCastingBars addon what was a part of Cosmos? I read on the site that some of the individual addons would be updated but couldn't find which ones, if any, had been done yet. |
| 06:20.17 | ZealotOnAStick | Still haven't found a spec I'm happy with. |
| 06:20.27 | Industrial | try affliction? :3 |
| 06:21.19 | Ryutsuki | That was* >_< |
| 06:21.28 | ZealotOnAStick | I started the night as 56/0/5 |
| 06:21.41 | Industrial | oh |
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| 06:21.56 | ZealotOnAStick | however, we also were fighting through horrendous lag until Twins. |
| 06:22.11 | ZealotOnAStick | We killed Felmyst through 3 second cast delay. |
| 06:22.33 | ZealotOnAStick | so it might be viable if there wasn't horrendous lag. |
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| 06:23.31 | Industrial | but the lag was to be expected since all servers were crashing like all day |
| 06:23.34 | Industrial | i cant even log in atm |
| 06:23.51 | Industrial | -> breakfast |
| 06:24.36 | NightHawkTheSane | woah |
| 06:24.46 | NightHawkTheSane | they increased timbermaw rep gain.. |
| 06:25.24 | NightHawkTheSane | mobs give 4 rep/kill, instead of 2. |
| 06:27.39 | Thunder_Child | along with Shirik|zZz |
| 06:28.22 | NightHawkTheSane | ~comfort kd3 |
| 06:28.23 | purl | There, there, kd3. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 06:28.28 | Neuro_Medivh | ok, just made cookies, who wants some? |
| 06:28.35 | NightHawkTheSane | ooh! cookies! |
| 06:29.34 | Ryutsuki | -.- |
| 06:32.14 | Neuro_Medivh | toll house chocolate chip, yum! |
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| 06:37.54 | Neuro_Medivh | NightHawkTheSane, I think they raised the rep for Timbermaw back in 2.4 |
| 06:38.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Neuro_Medivh: no, i mean in 3.0 |
| 06:38.30 | Neuro_Medivh | I know, but I'm fairly sure it was 4-5 per kill in 2.4 |
| 06:38.30 | NightHawkTheSane | monday night it was 2 rep/kill. tonight it's 4/kill. :p |
| 06:38.41 | Neuro_Medivh | hmm, killing which? |
| 06:38.47 | NightHawkTheSane | any of them |
| 06:39.25 | kd3 | it was 2 in 2.4 |
| 06:39.39 | Ryutsuki | So... that's a no then? Lol. |
| 06:40.13 | Neuro_Medivh | if you ask "does anyone know" and no one responds, then yes, that's a good indicator that no one knows |
| 06:40.42 | Ryutsuki | Nu uh! |
| 06:40.44 | Ryutsuki | =P |
| 06:40.46 | Neuro_Medivh | but, in recompense, I offer you a cookie |
| 06:40.51 | Ryutsuki | =O |
| 06:40.54 | Ryutsuki | Cookie! |
| 06:42.42 | Neuro_Medivh | at least it wasn't http://www.buygracefoods.com/site/product.cfm?id=cock_soup_env |
| 06:42.58 | NightHawkTheSane | i am so not clicking that |
| 06:43.06 | Neuro_Medivh | it's totally safe |
| 06:48.31 | Ryutsuki | Anyone know of an alternative to it then? I don't like the looks of the alternatives I have found due to them entirely altering unit frames =( |
| 06:48.40 | Ryutsuki | and that is weird Medivh |
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| 07:01.01 | ZealotOnAStick | Ryutsuki: alternative to what? |
| 07:01.41 | Ryutsuki | to the PartyCastingBars addon that was a part of Cosmos before it's death. =P |
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| 07:05.13 | Ryutsuki | o.o |
| 07:07.32 | Neuro_Medivh | why not just fix it up yourself? Can't be too hard |
| 07:07.53 | kd3 | whee as the forums take a dive |
| 07:08.07 | Duman | hmm |
| 07:08.10 | Duman | yeah |
| 07:08.15 | Duman | forums just ate face |
| 07:08.25 | Ryutsuki | Lol. I wouldn't know where to start. Honestly I know nothing about addons other than they do useful little nifty things and make my gameplay more enjoyable. =P |
| 07:08.43 | kd3 | it's funny. they broke in the middle of a refresh. lost most of the graphics... |
| 07:09.07 | Neuro_Medivh | aww, /comfort kd3 |
| 07:09.26 | Duman | heh |
| 07:10.16 | Duman | Ryutsuki take a look at X-Perl if you want a quick party frame setup that shows party/target/focus casting bars |
| 07:11.49 | Neuro_Medivh | that's almost like building a second story on to your house because you need more closet space |
| 07:13.43 | Ryutsuki | Lol |
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| 07:14.22 | Ryutsuki | Duman: Tried X-perl. Don't like it's unit frames. Just to different from what I'm used and I can't get comfortable with it. |
| 07:16.12 | Neuro_Medivh | did you try communicating? Talking, getting to know it's likes and dislikes, hopes dreams and desires? I mean, sure PartyCastingBars is your first love, but you gotta give other addons a chance. Can't keep living in the past, man, it's time to move on. |
| 07:16.35 | Neuro_Medivh | besides, I heard PartyCastingBars is a real ho. |
| 07:16.58 | AnduinLothar | yo mama's a ho |
| 07:17.44 | Neuro_Medivh | MY MOM IS A CLASSY LADY, you take that back! |
| 07:17.48 | Ryutsuki | Lmfao |
| 07:18.09 | Neuro_Medivh | then again, she DID bang my dad |
| 07:18.39 | Ryutsuki | But... But... PCB said it loved me and would never me. X-perl just told me to get off my ass and make it a sammich. ='( |
| 07:18.49 | Ryutsuki | =P |
| 07:19.28 | Neuro_Medivh | yes, but you have to understand.. X-Perl works for a living |
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| 07:20.13 | Neuro_Medivh | PCB just had one little part-time job |
| 07:21.09 | Ryutsuki | Yes but that little part-time job made me happy. |
| 07:21.11 | Ryutsuki | Lol |
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| 07:23.21 | Neuro_Medivh | yeah.. I think this joke is just about played out |
| 07:23.29 | Duman | zeksie, so what's up with this hud? ;-) New goodies? |
| 07:24.00 | krka | Fry: Uh... brglgrglgrglgrrr! |
| 07:24.00 | krka | Dr. Zoidberg: What? My mother was a saint! Get out! |
| 07:28.04 | Zeksie | Duman? it's not finished. sshh |
| 07:38.39 | Duman | zeksie :) |
| 07:38.58 | Tekkub | http://www.explosm.net/comics/1432/ |
| 07:38.59 | Duman | the.. uh... "preview" looks neat ;) |
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| 07:49.32 | Tekkub | both the waffle tracker and my porn one won't update... hrm... that's suspicious |
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| 07:49.55 | NightHawkTheSane | no porn?! that's terrible |
| 07:50.28 | Tekkub | that doesn't bother me as much as them both "not repsonding" all of the sudden |
| 07:51.02 | Tekkub | *especially* since I can ping it |
| 08:03.02 | NightHawkTheSane | woah |
| 08:03.22 | NightHawkTheSane | they doubled rep on feather/bead turnins too. >.> |
| 08:03.29 | NightHawkTheSane | 300 rep for each turnin |
| 08:04.58 | NightHawkTheSane | poor kd3 |
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| 08:43.27 | bleeter | Wobin: did we mention http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci_-6pY-DzM yesterday? EVERYBODY LOOK AT ME I GOT 3G!! |
| 08:43.45 | Zeksie | gah. where's the URL import gone from talented... /crai |
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| 08:45.50 | Wobin | bleeter: hehe yeah =) |
| 08:48.37 | Nom- | *drool* |
| 08:48.48 | Nom- | Total CPU Resources: 90GHz, Total Memory: 128 GB |
| 08:48.53 | bleeter | heya nom ltnc hope yer well :) |
| 08:49.05 | bleeter | rawr juicy |
| 08:49.41 | [SW]Dodge | someone knows the name of the addon like ARL but for minipets? that shows me which pets are missing and where/how to get? |
| 08:50.01 | Nom- | Got another 40GHz and 64GB memory going into the cluster tonight |
| 08:50.41 | bleeter | Nom-: did you hear how the world economic model used to try and save the crisis foo, is run on like some $2.5k celery dell? |
| 08:51.10 | Nom- | We are currently using: 277MHz |
| 08:51.11 | Nom- | ROFL |
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| 08:51.47 | Nom- | wow... we're using a depressingly low percentage of resources |
| 09:00.11 | ZorbaTHut | what are you spending it on, and why are you putting more in if you're using so little? |
| 09:01.04 | Nom- | Capacity is already bought |
| 09:01.09 | Nom- | So it's just bringing it online |
| 09:01.30 | End | [SW]Dodge: TheCollector does that, but its list seemed incomplete |
| 09:01.59 | End | (but I was running in on beta, hehehe) |
| 09:02.01 | End | it* |
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| 09:02.40 | [SW]Dodge | End: okay thanks :) |
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| 09:24.05 | bleeter | eating popcorn |
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| 09:37.00 | Wobin | on a piano |
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| 09:56.55 | Wobin | ooh! |
| 09:56.58 | Wobin | MiniArc! |
| 09:57.14 | Wobin | Baby Antiarc! =) |
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| 10:32.30 | Josh_Borke | Wobin: are you ok? |
| 10:41.56 | Wobin | Josh_Borke: yes |
| 10:42.30 | Josh_Borke | ok, just checking |
| 10:42.50 | Wobin | why? |
| 10:43.07 | Josh_Borke | your 'liveliness' about an hour ago |
| 10:43.12 | Josh_Borke | (05:57:03 AM) Wobin: ooh! |
| 10:43.12 | Josh_Borke | (05:57:06 AM) Wobin: MiniArc! |
| 10:43.12 | Josh_Borke | (05:57:22 AM) Wobin: Baby Antiarc! =) |
| 10:43.28 | Wobin | Chris Heald is afk hospital, brb with baby. |
| 10:43.28 | Wobin | 23 minutes ago - 1 Comment |
| 10:43.39 | Wobin | ^^ |
| 10:43.46 | Josh_Borke | lies |
| 10:43.49 | Josh_Borke | i have no such thing |
| 10:44.00 | Josh_Borke | (05:51:25 AM) Wobin is now known as wObin |
| 10:44.00 | Josh_Borke | (05:52:07 AM) wObin is now known as Wobinnnnnnnnnnnn |
| 10:44.00 | Josh_Borke | (05:52:27 AM) Wobinnnnnnnnnnnn is now known as Wobin |
| 10:44.18 | Wobin | Just clarifying a mistaken identity |
| 10:44.31 | Wobin | for some reason I was being mistaken for a "Werealds" =P |
| 10:48.00 | Josh_Borke | oh, ok, that explains EVERYTHING |
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| 10:59.42 | Thunder_Child | Weralds, not two 'e's |
| 11:00.04 | Thunder_Child | err..We*relds |
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| 11:00.22 | Thunder_Child | s/We*relds/Werelds/ |
| 11:04.56 | Thunder_Child | ~fail zarious |
| 11:04.57 | purl | zarious, you Fail! |
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| 11:28.21 | Mundyz | anyone know a good raid frames mod alternative to grid? |
| 11:32.19 | Cairenn | haste: thanks for the feedback :) |
| 11:32.47 | haste | blame clad|away D: |
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| 11:33.18 | Cairenn | feedback is always good |
| 11:33.45 | haste | yep :) |
| 11:35.10 | ReAn | Cairenn *wave* |
| 11:35.26 | Cairenn | hey ReAn :) |
| 11:35.46 | ReAn | Things busy at WoWIHQ? w/ the retarded ammount of downloads atm? |
| 11:36.16 | Cairenn | actually, it's kinda quiet now, but I'm not saying that out loud because I don't want to jinx us |
| 11:36.27 | ReAn | lol |
| 11:36.41 | ReAn | i saw the lowBW replacement on patchday and was like |
| 11:36.57 | ReAn | wow... i feel sorry for the pockets of the companies running wowi / curse |
| 11:37.06 | ReAn | expensive month |
| 11:37.20 | haste | it's only 13:30 in GMT+1, so most people are at school/work |
| 11:37.31 | haste | in europe that is :p |
| 11:37.46 | ReAn | it's 5:40 am here |
| 11:38.36 | Cairenn | the last couple days have been absolutely insane, but hopefully it's going to slow down |
| 11:38.41 | ReAn | and like a total nerd, im up re-watching old anime cuz im too lazy to get up and crawl into bed |
| 11:39.08 | ReAn | Cairenn: prolly a lot more forum moderation too w/ a lot more posts cause of the patch eh? |
| 11:39.30 | Cairenn | oh yeah, among other thing |
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| 11:39.44 | Cairenn | it's just been wild over all |
| 11:40.20 | ReAn | Cairenn, were you @ blizzcon? |
| 11:40.28 | Cairenn | RARR! |
| 11:40.36 | ReAn | :D waz it fun? |
| 11:40.45 | ReAn | oh! |
| 11:40.51 | Cairenn | oh hell yes! |
| 11:40.54 | Hirluin | So, whats happening with NECB? |
| 11:40.59 | ReAn | did anyone wear " Cairenn fan club " T-Shirts? |
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| 11:41.35 | Cairenn | ReAn: Dolby did, for a couple hours |
| 11:41.45 | Cairenn | I smacked him for it ;) |
| 11:41.48 | ReAn | his creation or the Cairenn booty version? |
| 11:41.56 | Cairenn | his own |
| 11:42.02 | ReAn | he have pics? |
| 11:42.10 | Hirluin | <Hirluin> So, whats happening with NECB? |
| 11:42.30 | Wobin | hm |
| 11:42.31 | Cairenn | no one was so stupid as to have made a Cair-booty one |
| 11:43.00 | Wobin | You know that TV is struggling for ideas when the friday night show has three hosts |
| 11:43.07 | Wobin | and is about "The best videos on the net" |
| 11:43.13 | ReAn | prolly cuz the last time they'd see it was from the ground after you socked em out while waking away from the beaten corpse? |
| 11:43.27 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 11:43.59 | Cairenn | are you suggesting sweet lil 'ol me would inflict damage on someone? |
| 11:44.15 | foxlit | would clearly get minions to do it |
| 11:44.25 | ReAn | Cairenn, have you seen Mallrats by Kevin Smith? |
| 11:44.46 | Cairenn | ReAn: possibly, not getting the reference at the moment though |
| 11:44.55 | Cairenn | Hirluin: not sure |
| 11:44.57 | ReAn | there's a line in mallrats |
| 11:45.11 | ReAn | "Hell hath no fury like a woman's scorn for sega." |
| 11:45.19 | Cairenn | lol |
| 11:45.19 | ReAn | well, i've seen this fury in real life |
| 11:45.24 | Hirluin | hmm |
| 11:45.28 | Hirluin | thats like the most loved addon |
| 11:45.29 | ReAn | women, no matter how sweet... are capable of anything |
| 11:45.29 | Hirluin | for pvpers |
| 11:45.47 | Cairenn | I have better ways |
| 11:45.59 | Cairenn | I'd just stop giving the offenders hugs |
| 11:46.10 | ReAn | true |
| 11:46.25 | ReAn | deprive a nerd of hugs and it's almost as punishing as a kick to the balls |
| 11:46.43 | Cairenn | Adys: and? |
| 11:46.44 | Adys | is there a way to show the pvp timer with pitbull? |
| 11:47.16 | Adys | Cairenn: I think every time I switch on this chan tab someone's talking about hugs |
| 11:47.28 | Adys | actually it depends on chans |
| 11:47.33 | Cairenn | that's because I'm a rampant hugger |
| 11:47.42 | Adys | on mmo champion its usually about sex :/ |
| 11:47.56 | Adys | and on wowwiki about Kalroth ! |
| 11:48.09 | Kalroth | *teehee* |
| 11:48.39 | ReAn | Adys: you dont even wanna know what the wotlkwiki.info staff channel talks about :p |
| 11:49.18 | Adys | underage porn? |
| 11:49.29 | Wobin | cake? |
| 11:49.30 | ReAn | no |
| 11:49.45 | ReAn | but the #wotlkwiki normal channel is like the /b/ of wowism |
| 11:49.46 | Wobin | candy? |
| 11:49.53 | Wobin | scary |
| 11:50.46 | ReAn | well, it is |
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| 11:51.10 | ReAn | at least... when we're not talking about reverse engineering wow or spamming the channel with custom software output >_< |
| 11:52.42 | foxlit | off my lawn, now :) |
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| 11:53.21 | Wobin | pesky kids |
| 11:55.35 | Wobin | hehe nice, a bank that offers 10% interest on kid's accounts |
| 11:56.06 | Doow | finally a good reason to get kids |
| 11:56.24 | Doow | well, a kid is probably enough |
| 11:56.34 | ReAn | thing is |
| 11:56.41 | ReAn | you'll prolly spend as much as you'd make |
| 11:56.53 | Wobin | well the whole point is to encourage saving |
| 11:57.03 | Doow | depends on how much money I have to save ^^ |
| 11:57.13 | ReAn | well |
| 11:57.17 | ReAn | banks need our investments |
| 11:57.18 | Wobin | and no doubt said accounts have an upper limit |
| 11:57.32 | Doow | no fun |
| 11:57.49 | Doow | I want to borrow 10 mil at 6% interest and put them in that account |
| 11:57.52 | Wobin | well the highest interest rate so far, is about 7.25 on term deposits |
| 11:58.08 | Wobin | so the 10% is a nice change |
| 11:58.35 | Doow | yeah it's a good thing, even if I can't abuse it |
| 12:00.11 | ReAn | sleep or more anime? |
| 12:00.16 | ReAn | decisions... decisions... |
| 12:05.44 | Cairenn | sleep |
| 12:06.02 | Thunder_Child | coming from you Cairenn.... |
| 12:06.15 | Cairenn | shhh |
| 12:06.36 | ReAn | so'k im already following by your EXAMPLE Cairenn, and ignoring sleep |
| 12:06.40 | Josh_Borke | ~emulate JoshBorke |
| 12:06.41 | purl | Someone peed in my cheerios! |
| 12:06.44 | Josh_Borke | :-( |
| 12:06.47 | Josh_Borke | ~emulate Josh_Borke |
| 12:06.48 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn |
| 12:06.52 | Josh_Borke | :-D |
| 12:06.53 | Diskmaster | ~emulate Diskmaster |
| 12:07.02 | Josh_Borke | ~literal emulate JoshBorke |
| 12:07.02 | purl | "emulate joshborke" is "<reply> Someone peed in my cheerios!" |
| 12:07.05 | ReAn | ~emulate ReAn |
| 12:07.09 | Josh_Borke | purl, forget emulate JoshBorke |
| 12:07.09 | purl | Josh_Borke: i forgot emulate joshborke |
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| 12:07.59 | Diskmaster | purl, emulate Diskmaster is "<action> revs up the CHAINSAW OF NATURAL SELECTION!" |
| 12:08.00 | purl | Diskmaster: okay |
| 12:08.19 | Diskmaster | ~emulate Diskmaster |
| 12:08.20 | purl | i guess emulate diskmaster is "<action> revs up the CHAINSAW OF NATURAL SELECTION!" |
| 12:08.25 | Thunder_Child | purl, emulate JoshBorke is <reply> Cairenn pee'd in my cheerios |
| 12:08.26 | purl | okay, Thunder_Child |
| 12:08.26 | Diskmaster | ... |
| 12:08.41 | Thunder_Child | ~emulate JoshBorke |
| 12:08.41 | purl | Cairenn pee'd in my cheerios |
| 12:08.41 | Diskmaster | purl, forget emulate Diskmaster |
| 12:08.42 | purl | Diskmaster: i forgot emulate diskmaster |
| 12:09.02 | Thunder_Child | Diskmaster, try w/o the " |
| 12:09.10 | Cairenn | I wanted to make sure the rest got some sleep last night, since we've all been putting in stupid hours, so I pulled an all nighter ... they're going to yell at me when they wake up and discover it, but that's okay ... I'm gonna crash once one of them is awake |
| 12:09.39 | Diskmaster | purl, emulate Diskmaster is <action> revs up the CHAINSAW OF NATURAL SELECTION and manages to leave a big gaping hole in a random chatter! |
| 12:09.40 | purl | okay, Diskmaster |
| 12:09.45 | Diskmaster | ~emulate Diskmaster |
| 12:09.46 | purl | ACTION revs up the CHAINSAW OF NATURAL SELECTION and manages to leave a big gaping hole in a random chatter! |
| 12:10.01 | Diskmaster | Ah, there we go. |
| 12:10.23 | ReAn | purl, emulate ReAn is <action> breaks into spontaneous dance! \o/ |
| 12:10.23 | purl | ReAn: okay |
| 12:10.28 | ReAn | ~emulate ReAn |
| 12:10.29 | purl | ACTION breaks into spontaneous dance! o/ |
| 12:10.34 | ReAn | heh |
| 12:10.38 | ReAn | escape character |
| 12:10.50 | ReAn | purl, forget emulate ReAn |
| 12:10.50 | purl | i forgot emulate rean, ReAn |
| 12:10.57 | ReAn | purl, emulate ReAn is <action> breaks into spontaneous dance! \\o/ |
| 12:10.57 | purl | ReAn: okay |
| 12:11.02 | ReAn | ~emulate ReAn |
| 12:11.02 | purl | ACTION breaks into spontaneous dance! \o/ |
| 12:11.31 | Thunder_Child | ~emulate Thunder_Child |
| 12:11.32 | purl | rumour has it, emulate1 thunder_child is "<reply>Let me guess... Your parients are cousins |
| 12:11.33 | ReAn | prul, Cairenn is our queen |
| 12:11.38 | Thunder_Child | Le Sigh |
| 12:12.45 | Thunder_Child | ~emulate Thunder_Child |
| 12:12.46 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, emulate1 thunder_child is "<reply>Save your breath ...you'll need it to blow up your date |
| 12:12.56 | Thunder_Child | damit |
| 12:13.51 | Thunder_Child | ~emulate Thunder_Child |
| 12:13.52 | purl | to save time, let's just assume i know everything |
| 12:14.07 | Thunder_Child | someone needs to stop messing with this stuff! |
| 12:15.34 | ReAn | what do you mean? |
| 12:15.40 | ReAn | people are confusing purl? |
| 12:16.23 | Thunder_Child | i dont know, but it worked the last time i checked it |
| 12:16.32 | Thunder_Child | ~Thunder_Child |
| 12:16.33 | purl | Thunder_Child is an asshole |
| 12:16.40 | Thunder_Child | that still works at least |
| 12:17.10 | ReAn | purl, ReAn is a giant noob |
| 12:17.10 | purl | ReAn: okay |
| 12:17.14 | ReAn | ~ReAn |
| 12:17.15 | purl | i guess rean is a giant noob |
| 12:17.59 | Thunder_Child | purl, no, ReAn is <reply> ReAn is a giant noob |
| 12:18.00 | purl | Thunder_Child: okay |
| 12:18.02 | Thunder_Child | ~rean |
| 12:18.03 | purl | ReAn is a giant noob |
| 12:18.14 | Thunder_Child | ReAn, now do ~lock ReAn |
| 12:18.24 | ReAn | ~lock ReAn |
| 12:18.24 | purl | locking factoid rean, ReAn |
| 12:18.33 | Thunder_Child | sadly it only works for your name |
| 12:21.32 | ReAn | i assume ~unlock has the opposite effect |
| 12:22.20 | Thunder_Child | ya |
| 12:23.06 | ReAn | who runs purl btw? |
| 12:24.09 | Thunder_Child | Tim RIker i think |
| 12:24.13 | Thunder_Child | Riker* |
| 12:24.31 | Thunder_Child | ~blootbot |
| 12:24.31 | purl | i heard blootbot is an IRC bot written in perl descended from infobot. Hosted on SF. This project is now merged back into the main infobot project. See [infobot] |
| 12:24.32 | Cairenn | aye |
| 12:24.40 | Thunder_Child | ~infobot |
| 12:24.41 | purl | thunder_child, I love abuse, feed me!, or an interactive bot that can learn all sorts of information (http://www.infobot.org/), or updated sources at http://infobot.sf.net/ |
| 12:25.02 | Cairenn | purl, who do you belong to? |
| 12:25.20 | Cairenn | purl, who's your owner? |
| 12:25.23 | Thunder_Child | i guress purl belongs to purl |
| 12:26.16 | Thunder_Child | guess* |
| 12:26.33 | ReAn | prul must be taught about daft punk tho |
| 12:26.40 | ReAn | purl wont be complete with out it |
| 12:26.40 | ReAn | purl, television is <reply> rules the nation! |
| 12:26.41 | purl | okay, ReAn |
| 12:26.45 | ReAn | ~television |
| 12:26.46 | purl | rules the nation! |
| 12:26.46 | Thunder_Child | ~daftpunk |
| 12:26.51 | ReAn | :D |
| 12:27.03 | Cairenn | ~timriker |
| 12:27.04 | purl | i guess timriker is my owner http://rikers.org/ mailto:Tim@Rikers.org mailto:TimR@Debian.org maintainer of BZFlag, member of a ton of open source projects http://www.advogato.com/person/timriker/ http://sourceforge.net/users/timriker/ the guy who GPL'd SCO's ABI files, giving every Linux user the right to use them ;-), or a very cool guy. |
| 12:27.08 | Cairenn | there we go |
| 12:27.50 | Thunder_Child | actually Cairenn, that says nothing about purl/infobot/blootbot |
| 12:27.53 | ReAn | i should teach purl the lyrics to technologic |
| 12:27.58 | ReAn | one at a time |
| 12:28.03 | Josh_Borke | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:29.15 | Cairenn | but the question was who runs it :p |
| 12:29.24 | Cairenn | (2008-10-16 08:25:01) ReAn: who runs purl btw? |
| 12:30.09 | Thunder_Child | ah, but that doesnt prove that tim riker runs purl |
| 12:31.34 | ReAn | purl i=ibot@pdpc/supporter/active/TimRiker/bot/apt * TimRiker's infobot |
| 12:32.22 | ReAn | ~infobot |
| 12:32.23 | purl | rean, I love abuse, feed me!, or an interactive bot that can learn all sorts of information (http://www.infobot.org/), or updated sources at http://infobot.sf.net/ |
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| 12:43.23 | ReAn | purl, should i sleep? |
| 12:43.40 | ReAn | stupid bot dosen't have the answers for me :( |
| 12:45.31 | Josh_Borke | purl, tell ReAn to sleep |
| 12:45.39 | Josh_Borke | interesting |
| 12:45.46 | Josh_Borke | ~sleep ReAn |
| 12:45.47 | purl | ACTION sends ReAn to bed without supper |
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| 13:12.25 | Guest881 | Is there a cosmos version for the latest warcraft patch? |
| 13:13.29 | [dRaCo] | no |
| 13:13.32 | [dRaCo] | and there won't be |
| 13:14.03 | Guest881 | ah damn |
| 13:14.48 | [dRaCo] | http://www.cosmosui.org/showthread.php?t=57724 if you want the specifics |
| 13:14.57 | Guest881 | cheers |
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| 13:25.09 | Thunder_Child | Josh_Borke, bed is better |
| 13:25.26 | Josh_Borke | ~bed ReAn |
| 13:25.26 | purl | ACTION tucks ReAn into a warm bed. |
| 13:25.31 | Josh_Borke | ah, cool |
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| 14:02.25 | |Jelly| | I've decided that linux hates me. |
| 14:03.25 | Esine | |Jelly|, what's up? |
| 14:03.44 | |Jelly| | It WILL NOT recognise my wireless network. |
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| 14:21.01 | |Jelly| | Shirik: Make Ubuntu not hate me. |
| 14:21.12 | Shirik | Ubuntu hates everyone |
| 14:21.19 | leethal | Leopard hates me |
| 14:21.22 | |Jelly| | Make it not hate me, specifically. |
| 14:21.25 | leethal | because I have been trying to replace it with ubuntu. |
| 14:21.26 | Esine | hint: don't use ubuntu |
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| 14:22.13 | |Jelly| | Esine: I need a beginner distro and was told that Ubuntu was one of them |
| 14:22.18 | Esine | oh ah |
| 14:22.19 | Esine | yes |
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| 14:25.13 | krka | what version of ubuntu? |
| 14:25.23 | |Jelly| | 8.4 ? |
| 14:25.27 | |Jelly| | Sounds right |
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| 14:25.52 | krka | i particularly like hardy heron, but apparently networking is one of the major goals in the upcoming release |
| 14:26.12 | krka | wifi works perfectly for me in hardy, (not that it helps you) |
| 14:26.32 | |Jelly| | For instance, I turned off my network's security and on roaming ... and it still didn't even see it |
| 14:26.40 | krka | did you check the "Hardware drivers", in case your wifi card needed it? |
| 14:27.00 | krka | mine needed to download some firmware binaries |
| 14:27.05 | |Jelly| | The only thing that was there was my video |
| 14:27.14 | Shirik | Intel cards need ucode usually |
| 14:27.17 | |Jelly| | Gimme a sec and I'll boot up my laptop |
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| 14:29.03 | Quezacolt | one little question: what does this line in the patch notes mean? "V-key color is now available. Classes will now be identified with the appropriate color while the V-key option is engaged." |
| 14:29.38 | kneeki | Quezacolt: Click V while in game |
| 14:29.40 | kneeki | and go near some bad guys |
| 14:29.59 | Quezacolt | Ohhh, okay! |
| 14:31.18 | |Jelly| | The only driver listed in the Hardware Drivers list is "nVidia" which isn't my wireless card. |
| 14:32.43 | alestane | nVidia does make wireless cards. |
| 14:32.59 | |Jelly| | mine is a broadcom wireless card |
| 14:33.59 | alestane | I'm a little out of it on Linux, but shouldn't it show in in /dev somewhere if it's working? /dev/weth1 or something of the kind? |
| 14:34.25 | Esine | nope. |
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| 14:35.00 | Esine | |Jelly|, you'll need drivers for your wireless card. Google for ubuntu wlan or ubuntu ndiswrapper.. and find out what your wireless card's make and model is |
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| 14:35.41 | Esine | |Jelly|, if the drivers are installed correctly, /sbin/ifconfig -a in the terminal should show entry for it |
| 14:36.13 | |Jelly| | Esine: My laptop is showing up on my router's DHCP table ... but i can't connect to the interwebz |
| 14:36.17 | |Jelly| | I NEED MAH SEXLEG |
| 14:36.21 | Esine | I see |
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| 14:37.22 | |Jelly| | i'm putting in my WEB key (the one i used for both my computer and my roomie's ... although i've tried them all) in on a manually setup connection, and it keeps coming back asking for a key |
| 14:37.44 | |Jelly| | WEP, i'm awesome |
| 14:37.55 | Esine | you better go ask the ppl in #ubuntu |
| 14:38.02 | Esine | or better, google |
| 14:38.35 | Kaelten | ello |
| 14:39.14 | Seerah | hola |
| 14:40.25 | |Jelly| | Esine: /sbin/ifconfig -a shows an entry for my wireless card |
| 14:40.34 | Esine | good. |
| 14:40.38 | |Jelly| | but alas, back to continue my previous two hours on google. lol |
| 14:41.19 | |Jelly| | hey look! the wireless icon disappeared! winsauce |
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| 14:46.40 | Josh_Borke | Kaelten: morning |
| 14:46.46 | Josh_Borke | |Jelly|: linux wireless is so terrible |
| 14:47.05 | Josh_Borke | |Jelly|: if you think what you're going through now is that bad, imagine what it takes to set up a linux wirelass AP with WPA |
| 14:47.26 | Kaelten | ~lart Josh_Borke |
| 14:47.26 | purl | overclocks Josh_Borke until Josh_Borke burns out |
| 14:47.28 | Kaelten | morning |
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| 14:47.44 | |Jelly| | why would i do that? this is my first encounter with linux and it's already telling me to fuck off. step 2 is uninstall. |
| 14:48.24 | krka | wireless is imo one of the few remaining hurdles in ubuntu |
| 14:48.42 | krka | (works for me but apparently not for everyone) |
| 14:49.06 | |Jelly| | Well, can you suggest a distro that's user friendly that doesn't have retarded wireless? |
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| 14:50.53 | p3lim | g'mornin |
| 14:50.58 | krka | not really my area |
| 14:52.23 | |Jelly| | I will say that it worked well ... wired. lol |
| 14:52.36 | |Jelly| | But I'd mostly be using it at school and to tinker around with |
| 14:53.44 | Josh_Borke | |Jelly|: as a whole I would say wireless in linux is difficult |
| 14:54.59 | |Jelly| | :( |
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| 14:56.11 | p3lim | the load on wowi cleared up a bit or still mashing the servers? |
| 14:56.25 | krka | i'd google for my particular wireless card and ubuntu and see if i find any tips |
| 14:56.42 | Seerah | still getting a few server errors every now and then, p3lim, but if you get one just refresh or go back and try again |
| 14:57.05 | p3lim | yeah, but it seems to be a bit faster than last night |
| 14:57.16 | Seerah | *nod* |
| 14:57.20 | p3lim | I gave up, even tho two of my addons spammed errors |
| 14:57.32 | p3lim | gonna try to get to the svn page today :p |
| 14:58.41 | Seerah | I was still able to use the svn last night. Though there was a point when one of our servers quit and another point when a fix Dolby did accidentally interfered with svn. Besides those two short periods, things have been working if you're patient :) |
| 14:59.01 | Seerah | we're only running Currently Active Users: 25807 (744 members and 25063 guests) atm |
| 14:59.50 | |Jelly| | krka: Thanks for the advice. I'm going to ... leave it alone for a while lest it piss me off again. I've already googled my wireless device and ubuntu for reference when I revisit this issue after class this afternoon. <3 |
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| 15:01.10 | p3lim | thats alot of guests! |
| 15:01.31 | p3lim | bash them in the noggin', so I can update my addons :p |
| 15:01.32 | Seerah | heh... you should have seen it yesterday :P |
| 15:01.46 | p3lim | whats the site record btw? |
| 15:01.52 | Funkeh` | :o |
| 15:02.02 | foxlit | Seerah: what's the time out period for that count? |
| 15:02.07 | Seerah | Most users ever online was 40,644, Yesterday at 01:44 PM. (that's central time) |
| 15:02.11 | p3lim | lol |
| 15:02.19 | p3lim | scary :s |
| 15:02.31 | Seerah | ~tickle Funkeh` |
| 15:02.32 | purl | ACTION jumps on Funkeh`, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!" |
| 15:02.54 | Seerah | I'm sorry, foxlit, no caffeine yet. timeout period? |
| 15:02.57 | Seerah | ouch! :P |
| 15:03.04 | Funkeh` | :> |
| 15:03.39 | foxlit | Seerah: Maximum time since last page view for which a user is considered active |
| 15:04.14 | Seerah | iirc, that's for currently active sessions. So, if people are trying to access the site, but aren't getting through (those internal server errors for example) then it doesn't count them |
| 15:04.25 | Seerah | so our actual number for yesterday was much much higher than 40k |
| 15:04.32 | foxlit | Surely not simultaneous HTTP connections. |
| 15:05.03 | Seerah | if you want a more technical, geeky answer, you'll have to ask Dolby :) |
| 15:05.05 | foxlit | What forums tend to do is to update your last hit time in some table, then count the number of people with last hit > threshold to return the number of "active" users |
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| 15:14.57 | foxlit | So, anyone know which EU servers are actually having issues? |
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| 15:17.52 | Esine | not many anymore |
| 15:18.45 | Shirik | In bash script: If I run my script with parameters, how can I pass those parameters onto another program. Is that $- ? |
| 15:18.57 | Esine | $@ |
| 15:19.12 | Shirik | thanks |
| 15:19.17 | Shirik | I wonder what I got $- from |
| 15:21.24 | Atriace | I know the syntax is wrong for var, but assuming you see what I'm trying to do, can anyone solve for var in this hypothesis? lua> a={"foo"} function bunny() local foo={num=2} var=[a][1] print(var.num) end bunny() |
| 15:22.23 | Esine | I don't get what you're trying to do Atriace |
| 15:23.09 | Atriace | I'm trying to make the string into an object which is only locally accessible from within the code block "bunny" |
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| 15:23.32 | Atriace | And from there retrieve the subtable value "num" which should be 2 |
| 15:23.57 | alestane | Then I'd use: |
| 15:24.17 | Esine | oh.. resolve a string to variable? "foo" to variable named foo.. very bad idea |
| 15:24.32 | foxlit | in other words, wtb getlocal? |
| 15:24.33 | Esine | but I guess you could do it with _G["foo"] but I seriously recommend against doing that |
| 15:24.40 | alestane | local a = {num = 2} |
| 15:24.41 | Atriace | foxlit: it's not a global though |
| 15:24.45 | Esine | oh sorry not _G |
| 15:24.54 | foxlit | Atriace: hence getlocal, not getglobal. |
| 15:24.57 | Esine | righ. |
| 15:25.08 | Atriace | reallY!? I had no idea that existed lol |
| 15:25.13 | Atriace | sweeet! |
| 15:25.15 | alestane | It doesn't. |
| 15:25.17 | Esine | Atriace, please don't do this :( |
| 15:25.21 | Syzgyn | haha |
| 15:25.24 | Atriace | oh you narly toid |
| 15:25.31 | foxlit | don't get too excited, you can't use it. |
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| 15:25.49 | Shirik | Atriace, we're back on this? :) |
| 15:26.08 | Atriace | Shirik: what what? It's not the same issue, realy. |
| 15:26.17 | Shirik | oh I saw someone talking about globals and locals |
| 15:26.20 | Shirik | didn't really read |
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| 15:26.28 | Shirik | I have selective reading when I come back |
| 15:26.40 | Esine | Atriace, what ever it is you're trying to do there is a better way |
| 15:27.05 | Esine | would help if you'd tell us what you're really after |
| 15:27.06 | Lopeppeppy | I have selective hearing... and selective vision when it comes to my email.... |
| 15:27.11 | Shirik | there is a getlocal btw :) |
| 15:27.13 | Shirik | just not in WoW |
| 15:27.29 | alestane | It's part of debug, isn't it? |
| 15:27.35 | Adys | Any massauction mod working for wotlk? |
| 15:27.37 | Shirik | --> function foo() local a = 1; return debug.getlocal(0, 1); end return foo() |
| 15:27.38 | batbot | Shirik: > (*temporary), 0 |
| 15:27.39 | foxlit | alestane: yes |
| 15:27.42 | Shirik | eh |
| 15:27.43 | Nom- | not a big fan of the new prot pally :( |
| 15:27.49 | Shirik | --> function foo() local a = 1; return debug.getlocal(1, 1); end return foo() |
| 15:27.49 | batbot | Shirik: > nil |
| 15:27.54 | Shirik | --> function foo() local a = 1; return debug.getlocal(2, 1); end return foo() |
| 15:27.54 | batbot | Shirik: > nil |
| 15:27.58 | Shirik | well it's somewhere in there! |
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| 15:28.30 | Atriace | the thing that bothers me is that you can do table[var][1] and it resolves var as an object but you can't do [var][1] and get the same. |
| 15:28.34 | Lopeppeppy | Thief, nasty Baggins! |
| 15:28.49 | foxlit | [var][1] doesn't make sense. |
| 15:29.25 | Atriace | I know it doesn't |
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| 15:29.50 | Guest970 | hey |
| 15:30.08 | Guest970 | are all the addons working with ow 3.0.2? |
| 15:30.11 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/real_rapper.jpg |
| 15:30.15 | Shirik | all? |
| 15:30.20 | Guest970 | moste |
| 15:30.23 | Guest970 | most* |
| 15:30.29 | Shirik | That is a loaded question |
| 15:30.39 | Lopeppeppy | Guest970, only the ones updated and working properly are working with 3.0.2. **Most** of those updated work properly. But not all. |
| 15:30.48 | Guest970 | ahh |
| 15:30.55 | Lopeppeppy | Is there a specific one you're asking after? |
| 15:31.04 | Shirik | .. Lopeppeppy... |
| 15:31.10 | Lopeppeppy | I love you too, Shirik. |
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| 15:31.38 | foxlit | "I can't do what doesn't make sense" is an awesome complaint :) |
| 15:31.47 | Shirik | "Only green apples are green. Most green apples are granny smith apples, but not all." |
| 15:32.06 | p3lim | mikma: thats hot.. |
| 15:32.18 | p3lim | (like paris hilton says it) |
| 15:32.42 | Lopeppeppy | I know. Oranges are also not apples. |
| 15:32.44 | mikma | p3lim: oh snap. http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/snap.jpg |
| 15:33.08 | Shirik | ow |
| 15:33.18 | p3lim | holy crap that girl has no bones! |
| 15:33.38 | p3lim | shes like chickens cousin (from the cartoon network show 'Cow and chicken') |
| 15:34.30 | p3lim | http://members.lycos.nl/cownchicken/graphics/boneless.jpg |
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| 15:40.09 | Shirik | I think that's his uncle, p3lim |
| 15:40.38 | p3lim | nah, its his cousin, says so on wikipedia and ive seen enough episodes of that show to know it is |
| 15:40.43 | Shirik | yeah you're right |
| 15:40.48 | Shirik | It's been forever since I've seen that show |
| 15:40.52 | p3lim | :p |
| 15:41.00 | p3lim | still runs on the telly here in norway |
| 15:41.04 | foxlit | Is the mind-numbening effect wearing off yet, Shirik? |
| 15:41.09 | Fisker- | hows blizzcon? |
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| 15:41.44 | Fisker- | :( |
| 15:41.51 | Shirik | mind numbing? |
| 15:41.59 | Shirik | why you say that? |
| 15:42.02 | Lopeppeppy | Obviously, if he thinks it's still going on. :) |
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| 15:43.00 | foxlit | the cartoon, obviously |
| 15:45.36 | p3lim | hm, also a place to install this device.. http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/car_wc.jpg |
| 15:45.44 | Adys | Could someone check what's wrong with this macro? /cast [button=leftbutton] Winterspring Frostsaber /cast [button=rightbutton] Albino Drake |
| 15:46.22 | mikma | Adys: button=1 button=2 rather? |
| 15:46.36 | Adys | lemme check |
| 15:46.41 | alestane | Adys: /cast [button:1] Winterspring Frostsaber; Albino Drake |
| 15:47.06 | Adys | cheers |
| 15:47.43 | Adys | works, thx alot :) |
| 15:55.29 | kontroll | Guys, up until this patch I've been using SellValue (the OOOLD addon) to list crap in my inventory according to price. There are lots of addons with a price list built in, but are there any that will sort the contents of your inventory by value in a frame of its own? |
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| 15:56.10 | kontroll | http://capnbry.net/wow/images/invlist.jpg << like that |
| 15:56.11 | cladhaire | so they didn't remove UnitBuff did they |
| 15:56.12 | cladhaire | heh |
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| 16:00.59 | haste | cladhaire: just an alias tho' |
| 16:01.05 | cladhaire | k k |
| 16:01.08 | cladhaire | thats easy then |
| 16:01.17 | cladhaire | praid didn't break much :P |
| 16:01.33 | haste | mostly the options that took a hit I guess? |
| 16:02.27 | kneeki | Anyone recommend a stack splitting addon? That splits stacks of whatever items in half or so and auto drops them into your inventory? |
| 16:02.36 | mikma | but i'm crying because UIDropDownMenu_SetAnchor did break |
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| 16:04.24 | Shirik | do glyphs stack? |
| 16:04.33 | Shirik | i.e., if I have 2 coh glyphs it will heal 2 additional targets? |
| 16:05.16 | Fisker- | You cannot use the same glyph several times |
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| 16:08.28 | cladhaire | mikma: just put the dropdown as the first arg |
| 16:08.29 | cladhaire | and its fixed |
| 16:10.19 | Pheredhel | hi, is there an easy way to publish a generated zip, with the infos generated when creating it? didn'T find anything so far |
| 16:10.54 | Pheredhel | * on wowinterface |
| 16:13.04 | Seerah | Pheredhel: what do you mean by generated? |
| 16:13.11 | Pheredhel | ah ok, finally found it... |
| 16:13.37 | Wipeout | has there been a updated version of cosmos out for 3.0.2, the 1 i downloaded puts a white box around my chat and doesnt let me do anything |
| 16:13.57 | Cide | lua> "\2019" |
| 16:13.58 | lua_bot | Cide: É9 |
| 16:14.28 | mikma | cladhaire: yeah i tried that actually, nothing happened |
| 16:14.34 | |Jelly| | lua> 22 / 7 |
| 16:14.35 | lua_bot | |Jelly|: 3.1428571428571 |
| 16:14.39 | |Jelly| | bah |
| 16:15.00 | Pheredhel | well, i just created an svn repo on wowi and moved my addon over from wowace/curse |
| 16:15.18 | Seerah | did you read this, Wipeout? http://www.cosmosui.org/ |
| 16:15.21 | Pheredhel | i used "make zip" and entered a description, and now i want to publish it |
| 16:15.22 | Lopeppeppy | Wipeout, no there has not been. |
| 16:15.30 | Wipeout | ok. |
| 16:15.42 | Wipeout | so any ideas how i solve the whit box problem ? |
| 16:16.05 | Lopeppeppy | You could disable the addons one by one to find out which one is doing that, and then replace/update just that one part. |
| 16:16.15 | Wipeout | hmm oki |
| 16:16.18 | Wipeout | thanks :) |
| 16:16.59 | Seerah | Pheredhel: just confirm it and push the zip |
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| 16:18.18 | Lyn | does :SetPoint() still works on GameTooltip? Oo; |
| 16:18.27 | Pheredhel | where? i generated it, then downloaded it to check it works... |
| 16:18.40 | Pheredhel | then the "red site of doom" threw me out ... |
| 16:18.41 | Seerah | on that page where you download it to check it out |
| 16:18.52 | Seerah | ah |
| 16:18.59 | Seerah | hit the back button |
| 16:19.22 | Pheredhel | nah, cloed it, after i got about 10 downloads of the zip... |
| 16:19.33 | Pheredhel | that was not really helpful ;) |
| 16:19.42 | Pheredhel | so reset and do all over again? |
| 16:20.18 | Seerah | if it did not go through and it is not working, then yes. Sorry about that - our site can only handle so much at once |
| 16:20.23 | Lyn | hm.. |
| 16:20.54 | Seerah | Lyn: yes, SetPoint() works for gametooltip but you can't just call it once and be done with it, you have to hook it properly |
| 16:20.57 | Pheredhel | yeah, no problem at all, still better than tagging and autorelease ;) |
| 16:21.11 | Lyn | yeah, thanks, works now |
| 16:22.52 | p3lim | lol |
| 16:22.54 | p3lim | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/gangsta_disk.jpg |
| 16:27.05 | Wipeout | hmm will there be another update for the cosmos?. it seems the whole Cosmos_WOLK doesnt work, all the addons make my chatbox white |
| 16:29.04 | Seerah | the way I read it and from talking to Karl, don't expect the whole UI to be updated |
| 16:29.07 | Wikwocket | http://www.cosmosui.org/ has as much info as probably anyone knows |
| 16:29.13 | Lopeppeppy | AnduinLothar has been working on it, Wipeout, deciding what will beupdated and what will not be, etc. |
| 16:30.09 | Wikwocket | kneeki: http://www.wowace.com/projects/enhanced-stack-split/ was just updated |
| 16:30.18 | kneeki | :D |
| 16:30.27 | Wipeout | hmm kk thanks :) |
| 16:32.09 | End | goddammit |
| 16:32.19 | End | the installer deleted all my old log files >:( |
| 16:33.38 | kneeki | grr! |
| 16:33.42 | kneeki | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:33.57 | mikma | yes, /Fister- |
| 16:34.15 | kneeki | Someone care to explain why 'string.find(string.lower(UnitName("player")), string.lower(arg1))' is returning matches to just . ? |
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| 16:34.45 | mikma | hi Industrial |
| 16:35.21 | alestane | kneeki: Are you looking for "player" in arg1? |
| 16:35.30 | kneeki | I'm looking for the players name in arg1 |
| 16:36.03 | alestane | arg1:lower():find(UnitName("player"):lower()) |
| 16:36.04 | foxlit | you're doing it backwards. |
| 16:36.16 | foxlit | you're looking for arg1 in player's name. |
| 16:36.23 | kneeki | eh? |
| 16:36.33 | foxlit | string.find(haystack, needle) |
| 16:36.38 | alestane | First argument is the string being searched, |
| 16:36.43 | Shirik | well that's a strange bug in the achievements UI |
| 16:36.44 | kneeki | ... |
| 16:36.45 | kneeki | HELL! |
| 16:36.55 | kneeki | Thanks guys =\ |
| 16:37.09 | alestane | You can use the object-based design I threw above, or just swap the arguments. |
| 16:37.16 | Shirik | kneeki: I find it easier to remember if you do haystack:find(needle) |
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| 16:37.39 | foxlit | Did the UI options frame get resized, by any chance? |
| 16:37.52 | foxlit | (2.4.3->3.0.2) |
| 16:37.57 | kneeki | I've never known about :find() before |
| 16:38.04 | kneeki | it just searches a string? |
| 16:38.18 | NightHawkTheSane | any string.X methods can be called as somestring:X() |
| 16:38.31 | Cide | if somestring is a variable |
| 16:38.35 | Cide | you can't do "abc":X() |
| 16:38.41 | Cide | but you can do ("abc"):X() |
| 16:38.44 | NightHawkTheSane | well, y es |
| 16:38.46 | foxlit | lua> string.foo = function() return "bar"; end return ("abc"):foo(); |
| 16:38.46 | kneeki | oh |
| 16:38.46 | lua_bot | foxlit: luabot:1: attempt to call method 'foo' (a nil value) |
| 16:38.51 | kneeki | Thanks! |
| 16:38.59 | kneeki | That's neat to know :D |
| 16:39.21 | Cide | lua> getmetatable("").__index.foo = function() return "bar"; end return ("abc"):foo() |
| 16:39.22 | lua_bot | Cide: luabot:1: attempt to index field '__index' (a nil value) |
| 16:39.32 | clad|away | heh |
| 16:39.32 | clad|away | i have hacks. |
| 16:39.35 | Cide | oh |
| 16:39.41 | Cide | I was like "wtf! that's supposed to work!" |
| 16:39.45 | Cide | >>> getmetatable("").__index.foo = function() return "bar"; end return ("abc"):foo() |
| 16:39.45 | Cide | Cide: "bar" |
| 16:39.45 | clad|away | lua> pp(getmetatable("")) |
| 16:39.46 | lua_bot | clad|away: { } (#1) |
| 16:39.48 | NightHawkTheSane | clad > us |
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| 16:39.54 | Cide | why, though? |
| 16:39.54 | kneeki | arg1:lower():find(UnitName("player"):lower()) is a tad harder to read though |
| 16:39.57 | kneeki | but works great |
| 16:40.10 | NightHawkTheSane | kneeki: it just takes a little getting used to |
| 16:40.16 | kneeki | NightHawkTheSane: Mhmm =) |
| 16:40.18 | Shirik|Ghost | I'm most depressed about this |
| 16:40.19 | Kraps | anyone on dalvyger? |
| 16:40.21 | Shirik|Ghost | lua> newproxy() |
| 16:40.22 | lua_bot | Shirik|Ghost: userdata: 0x809bb54 |
| 16:40.24 | Shirik|Ghost | oh wait! |
| 16:40.27 | Kraps | server is screwy |
| 16:40.30 | NightHawkTheSane | its arguably easier to read if if you like object notation a bit better |
| 16:40.39 | Shirik|Ghost | oh right, lua_bot creates a new instance every time so he's immune |
| 16:40.42 | clad|away | yep |
| 16:40.59 | clad|away | the reason i protect the "" metatable is simply becuase you can muck with the __tostring metamethod and mess things up when I try to print later down |
| 16:41.01 | clad|away | I could just restore it |
| 16:41.05 | clad|away | but meh, cba at the moment. |
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| 16:41.52 | alestane | Does anyone understand what this guy is asking? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11296520055&sid=1 It sounds kinda like he's complaining about losing an exploit, but I don't feel like I understand what he's asking fully. |
| 16:42.44 | Lopeppeppy | "Over my head, summon another dinosaur to assist you." |
| 16:43.03 | Shirik2 | that's what I get, alestane |
| 16:43.15 | alestane | Is that your response, or your recommendation for my response? |
| 16:43.39 | Seerah | alestane: I have no clue what he's asking either |
| 16:43.39 | foxlit | That couldn't have worked, could it? |
| 16:43.55 | Lopeppeppy | What Seerah said. |
| 16:44.29 | alestane | Heh, he's in the guild <Cogsprocket>. |
| 16:44.39 | Seerah | say "complaining about losing an exploit, but I don't feel like I understand what he's asking fully." |
| 16:44.40 | Lopeppeppy | Just to taunt us! *cries* |
| 16:44.45 | Seerah | lol |
| 16:45.05 | NightHawkTheSane | it seems like its clear what he wants, but it's very confusing how he thought he got there before. >.> |
| 16:45.30 | Seerah | I'm not even really clear on what he wants :P |
| 16:46.41 | NightHawkTheSane | it seems like he wants something that lets him press a key/mouse -down- but then have the secureactionbuttontemplate ignore the key/mouse up event.. |
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| 16:47.28 | alestane | ... then use button:RegisterForClicks("AnyDown") ...? |
| 16:48.13 | NightHawkTheSane | well, he only wants that for the very next mouse/key up, then to go back to normal, i thinok |
| 16:49.28 | alestane | Well, if he's trying to conditionally block his action buttons from carrying out their secure actions based on insecure code, he's out of luck, and I can't see how that would have worked before anyway. |
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| 16:49.57 | NightHawkTheSane | well, it sound like he may have found some bug, but i dont really understand what he was doing to do that.. |
| 16:50.13 | matt1s | Is sanity inventory being maintained any more? |
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| 16:50.31 | NightHawkTheSane | matt1s: Antiarc would be the person to ask, but i don't believe so. |
| 16:51.12 | matt1s | ok thanks |
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| 17:02.35 | Shirik2 | how do you add entire guild to an event? |
| 17:02.37 | Shirik2 | on calendar? |
| 17:03.14 | Fisker- | Invite the entire guild |
| 17:03.26 | Shirik2 | yes how |
| 17:03.31 | Fisker- | "Mass Invite" |
| 17:03.37 | Shirik2 | oh |
| 17:03.38 | Shirik2 | I missed that |
| 17:03.45 | Fisker- | Indeed you did |
| 17:03.47 | NightHawkTheSane | also, i think you're sol if you have more than 100 membeers |
| 17:03.49 | Shirik2 | wtf |
| 17:03.53 | Shirik2 | guild members is greyed out |
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| 17:04.04 | Lunessa | Station! |
| 17:04.05 | Fisker- | Then you probably need a higher rank or something |
| 17:04.09 | Fisker- | no Lunessa |
| 17:04.09 | Fisker- | NO |
| 17:04.10 | NightHawkTheSane | permissions issue i bet |
| 17:04.25 | Shirik2 | fail |
| 17:04.34 | Fisker- | no u |
| 17:04.46 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, the calendar/event system needs.. a little work |
| 17:04.46 | Fisker- | That's why you should've forced Blizzard into making signups |
| 17:05.19 | ScytheBlade1 | So initially I thought that Ret was only OP because the tards who were whining were wearing greens |
| 17:05.33 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa dear. |
| 17:05.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Turns out that they actually can stand right next to you and kill you in under a second. |
| 17:06.02 | End | yup |
| 17:07.30 | Fisker- | also |
| 17:07.33 | Fisker- | we didn't go to sunwell |
| 17:07.42 | Fisker- | "wah wah my addons don't work and i can't spec" |
| 17:07.43 | Fisker- | suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure |
| 17:07.51 | *** join/#wowuidev Hjalte (n=chatzill@62.242.38.50) |
| 17:07.59 | Fisker- | over an hour to spec and update your addons(Which you could've done yesterday) |
| 17:08.17 | Fisker- | Sure it wasn't "wah wah we'll probably wipe"? >:E |
| 17:09.17 | vithos | sunwell is so easy now. |
| 17:09.33 | ScytheBlade1 | That AV had 17 paladins in there |
| 17:09.37 | ScytheBlade1 | And all but three were specced ret |
| 17:09.40 | vithos | AoEd all the trash |
| 17:09.53 | vithos | 1shot KJ |
| 17:10.02 | vithos | (we hadn't killed him before) |
| 17:10.43 | vithos | you really have nothing to worry about |
| 17:12.49 | Fisker- | i know vithos |
| 17:12.53 | Fisker- | But apparently others don't |
| 17:13.10 | Fisker- | He's also changed his story already |
| 17:14.09 | NeoTron | vithos: out of curiosity what makes the trash more aoeable after the patch? |
| 17:14.14 | Kraps | tanking is a breeze |
| 17:14.25 | vithos | everybody has AoE now |
| 17:14.27 | vithos | i'm a BM hunter |
| 17:14.31 | Fisker- | I told him his excuse was lame and irrelevant as many others would probably have similar issues throughout the day |
| 17:14.32 | vithos | i was top dps on trash spamming volley |
| 17:14.46 | vithos | and tank threat is crazy |
| 17:14.50 | Kraps | dalvengyr is lagging though |
| 17:14.53 | vithos | you still need to single target some kinds of mobs |
| 17:15.04 | Fisker- | Then he told me some other insanely wtf reason as to why he couldn't come |
| 17:15.41 | vithos | sunwell radiance is gone, all the mobs have 30% less hp |
| 17:15.57 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: 30% less health? :p |
| 17:16.00 | vithos | and everybody's dps has gone up significantly |
| 17:16.16 | vithos | it's a joke now, there's no difficulty in hardly anything |
| 17:16.35 | NightHawkTheSane | look at the up side, plenty of time to farm t6 level gear for wotlk? :P |
| 17:18.24 | zenzelezz | anyone used/using Carographer 2 after the patch? |
| 17:18.44 | NeoTron | sunwell radiance... that makes a difference |
| 17:21.45 | zenzelezz | *Carto... |
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| 17:23.43 | vithos | oh right, not just tank threat but also multitarget tanking works better now with target limits removed etc |
| 17:24.03 | NightHawkTheSane | heh, binding LB to MOUSE3 == one handed timbermaw grinding. |
| 17:25.40 | vithos | ugh, the WowInt UI manager is failing it :/ |
| 17:25.56 | NightHawkTheSane | blame Shirik ;) |
| 17:26.07 | vithos | tries to check every addon for updates (individually) every time i try to install one new addon |
| 17:26.12 | *** join/#wowuidev KarlKFI (n=chatzill@adcom137.adcom.uci.edu) |
| 17:26.24 | vithos | and of course it just stalls out |
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| 17:28.09 | ScytheBlade1 | vithos: it's pretty much broken and is being rewritten |
| 17:28.46 | Lunessa | *sigh* having to reinstall XP in a virtual box under Vista makes me a sad camper. |
| 17:28.56 | vithos | oh really, any usable preview version? |
| 17:29.01 | ScytheBlade1 | no |
| 17:29.08 | ScytheBlade1 | It's not even slightly working atm :) |
| 17:29.16 | vithos | alright |
| 17:36.28 | Neuro_Medivh | vithos, he's lying. It works perfectly, but if ScytheBlade1 gives you a copy, he'll have to give us one too.. and he hates us too much for that. |
| 17:36.29 | vithos | :( |
| 17:36.29 | NightHawkTheSane | thats true. |
| 17:36.29 | NightHawkTheSane | if ScytheBlade1 is anything, it's a gigantic ball of hate. |
| 17:37.47 | Wikwocket | Yay PerfectRaid update |
| 17:38.46 | Wikwocket | Now if only NECB would update.... hmmm what are the odds... |
| 17:42.03 | clad|away | Wikwocket: let me know ifyou run into any issues |
| 17:42.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Neuro_Medivh: die |
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| 17:45.25 | morkii | is itemsync discontinued? is there a new mod with similar tooltips? |
| 17:46.19 | NightHawkTheSane | what does itemsync do that you' |
| 17:46.22 | NightHawkTheSane | you |
| 17:46.26 | NightHawkTheSane | you're looking for. |
| 17:46.30 | NightHawkTheSane | stupid apostrophe. >< |
| 17:46.36 | mikma | can you add 2x same glyph? |
| 17:46.43 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: no |
| 17:46.46 | NightHawkTheSane | one of each glyph, max |
| 17:46.57 | mikma | good, then i don't have to test it :D |
| 17:47.01 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 17:48.25 | NightHawkTheSane | i think i may actually be done with timber maw grinding |
| 17:48.46 | Wikwocket | Hit exalted? Or maxxed boredom? |
| 17:48.47 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: Looking for some Tunnel love? |
| 17:49.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Wikwocket: exalted, i hope. if my math is right |
| 17:49.11 | Adys | Any massauction addon working with 3.0.2? |
| 17:50.07 | Hirsute | Adys: You mean like Auctioneer? |
| 17:50.14 | Adys | something lighter |
| 17:50.17 | Wikwocket | Auctionator was just updated. It will post multiples of an auction for you. |
| 17:50.26 | Wikwocket | Auctionator is very lightweight imo |
| 17:50.29 | Adys | was using something like igor's mass auction or something |
| 17:50.34 | Lopeppeppy | KC Items? |
| 17:50.34 | Adys | ah auctionator |
| 17:50.41 | Adys | gonna check out |
| 17:50.46 | Wikwocket | Yeah, it isn't quite like Igor's, but can post multiples |
| 17:51.10 | Adys | as long as i got an alt-click or something to do it |
| 17:51.11 | morkii | NightHawkTheSane: I just like having the vendor price in the tooltip really |
| 17:51.27 | NightHawkTheSane | morkii: SellFish is a very nice addon that does just that. |
| 17:51.48 | Wikwocket | Auctionator does have alt-click to add |
| 17:52.41 | Wikwocket | what I miss is a click to split a stack/split 1 item off a stack, KC_Items did that but it exploded |
| 17:53.38 | zenzelezz | "Lich King 25-player raids entered: 1" o_O |
| 17:53.55 | NightHawkTheSane | zenzelezz: haax |
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| 17:57.58 | matt1s | What's up with the red names of addons in the addon manager, but no error messages? |
| 17:58.46 | Lopeppeppy | That's a new way to signify Load on Demand addons. |
| 17:58.50 | alestane | They're LoadOnDemand. That will probably be reverted in an upcoming patch. |
| 17:58.52 | Hirsute | That means they're LoD |
| 17:59.54 | matt1s | ok thanks. I'm just having some problems with dominos, doesn't load, and no errors |
| 18:00.14 | Lopeppeppy | Sure it's installed correctly? |
| 18:00.35 | matt1s | it shows up in the list, only thing that is red is the dominos config module |
| 18:01.31 | alestane | The configuration is probably load-on-demand so that it doesn't eat memory if you're done setting it up. |
| 18:01.47 | Seerah | matt1s: so you don't have Dominos options in the Interface Options panel? I was using it on the beta client just fine |
| 18:03.17 | Seerah | Pheredhel: ping |
| 18:03.58 | matt1s | Seerah: yeah, I'm trying to figure out what it could be. No /dominos slash command either |
| 18:04.14 | Seerah | and you're *sure* you're not getting any errors? |
| 18:04.19 | kd3 | make sure you've got dominos_options enabled |
| 18:04.34 | matt1s | Yeah, but I'm going to check some more |
| 18:04.50 | Seerah | what version are you using? |
| 18:05.07 | End | finally got my degree :o |
| 18:05.16 | End | now I have a shiny piece of paper! |
| 18:05.26 | kd3 | yay overpriced pieces of paper |
| 18:05.27 | matt1s | Hold on, my realm is struggling. I can't really say if I'm 100% confident no errors, since I've only been looking for error frames, going to check the chat log now |
| 18:05.41 | End | :P |
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| 18:08.10 | matt1s | Seerah: I have dominos 1.6.1 |
| 18:09.04 | Seerah | hmm... that's the version I have from last night, but I haven't even been able to log into the game at all yet since patch |
| 18:10.40 | MiximUmz | I had a problem like that |
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| 18:10.57 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v MentalPower] by ChanServ |
| 18:11.04 | MiximUmz | it turned out it was because I didnt update buggrabber and bugsack and it was stopping things for some reason |
| 18:11.08 | matt1s | And the newest ArkInventory is strange too, I get the options in keybindings in all caps (not localized??) and I get a lua error when I try to use the open keybinding |
| 18:11.23 | NightHawkTheSane | kd3: so.. i know i mentioned that timbermaw kill rep was doubled, but so is all quest rep too... :D |
| 18:11.37 | kneeki | NightHawkTheSane: It was!? |
| 18:11.39 | kd3 | nhts; o_O |
| 18:11.42 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 18:11.44 | matt1s | MiximUmz: I'll try that out |
| 18:11.46 | kneeki | ZOH EM GEE |
| 18:11.50 | NightHawkTheSane | the totems gave 1400 rep each, feathers/beads are 300 rep per 5 |
| 18:11.59 | NightHawkTheSane | i just hit exalted :D |
| 18:13.59 | Seerah | O.O |
| 18:14.43 | Lunessa | matt1s & Seerah that's the version I'm using, and it works fine on live. |
| 18:15.08 | matt1s | Lunessa: maybe it's in combination with some of the other addons I have |
| 18:15.09 | Seerah | kk, Lunessa. Like I said, I haven't even gotten to log in :( |
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| 18:15.33 | Shirik | meh |
| 18:15.42 | Shirik | gnome mages exist for one purpose: to beat up on |
| 18:15.52 | kd3 | ...hey! |
| 18:16.00 | NightHawkTheSane | i thought it was "to punt" |
| 18:16.08 | NightHawkTheSane | or was that gnomes in general |
| 18:16.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: *stab* |
| 18:16.57 | Seerah | I think all of us gnome mages should gang up on Shirik :P |
| 18:17.04 | ScytheBlade1 | I agree |
| 18:17.07 | Lunessa | no no no. We have a Pink-Haired Gnome Mage on Kirin Tor and we <3 her. We call her the PHGM |
| 18:17.17 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3, Seerah and I. DEATH TO SHIRIK. |
| 18:17.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Seerah: yeah, all of you combined might come up to his shoudler |
| 18:17.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Uh |
| 18:17.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Vanish doesn't work |
| 18:17.35 | *** part/#wowuidev Shirik (n=nospam@conspiracy/developer/Shirik) |
| 18:17.40 | Seerah | since when did you become a rogue, mr. healer? |
| 18:17.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Quick bank him |
| 18:17.47 | ScytheBlade1 | *ban |
| 18:17.55 | Lunessa | He's not even a night elf. |
| 18:17.59 | Seerah | I'm no good with remembering commands :( |
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| 18:18.14 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Guest98412] by ChanServ |
| 18:18.19 | Guest98412 | wtf, don't +o me! |
| 18:18.25 | kd3 | hokay. it's been 48 hours. guess I can make the gm petition now |
| 18:18.35 | Seerah | Guest98412 [n=nospam@conspiracy/developer/Shirik] entered the room. |
| 18:18.47 | *** kick/#WoWUIDev [Guest98412!n=Ryan_L@adsl-177-46-218.mem.bellsouth.net] by Seerah (Seerah) |
| 18:18.48 | *** join/#wowuidev Guest98412 (n=nospam@conspiracy/developer/Shirik) |
| 18:18.48 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Guest98412] by ChanServ |
| 18:18.59 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Seerah!n=nospam@conspiracy/developer/Shirik] by Shirik (bye) |
| 18:19.08 | *** join/#wowuidev Seerah (n=Ryan_L@adsl-177-46-218.mem.bellsouth.net) |
| 18:19.08 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Seerah] by ChanServ |
| 18:19.10 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-o Seerah] by Shirik |
| 18:19.24 | Shirik | >.> |
| 18:19.26 | Shirik | <.< |
| 18:19.30 | Seerah | they told me to ban you! |
| 18:19.36 | Shirik | :( |
| 18:19.45 | Seerah | but I didn't! |
| 18:19.47 | zenzelezz | Mr. T pities the fool who needs to de-op women to make up for his lack of self esteem |
| 18:19.48 | Seerah | >.> |
| 18:19.58 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-o+b Shirik *!*n=nospam@conspiracy/developer/Shirik] by Shirik |
| 18:20.06 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Seerah] by ChanServ |
| 18:20.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Progress |
| 18:20.17 | *** join/#wowuidev molgar (i=Molgar@c5394BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) |
| 18:20.22 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-b *!*n=nospam@conspiracy/developer/Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 18:20.32 | Shirik | I tried to kickban myself |
| 18:20.34 | Shirik | but uh |
| 18:20.35 | Shirik | (14:19:53)  -› #WoWUIDev: You need to be a channel operator to do that |
| 18:20.39 | End | haha |
| 18:20.52 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 18:20.55 | Lopeppeppy | .... |
| 18:20.57 | Lopeppeppy | You guys are weird |
| 18:21.05 | Shirik | Well you guys are gnomes |
| 18:21.10 | End | I'm not a gnome |
| 18:21.16 | Seerah | ~lart Shirik |
| 18:21.16 | purl | follow's Shirik with a gauntlet and ... scratch ... HUMILIATION |
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| 18:23.48 | vithos | anyone using Satrina Buff Frames on 3.0? |
| 18:24.12 | Seerah | helped my hubby set them up last night. what's up? |
| 18:24.45 | vithos | well i just set them up and reloaded ui and all my changes were lost |
| 18:24.48 | Lyn | i need unitframes |
| 18:25.12 | molgar | anyone know how to handle this error msg ? InterFace\FrameXML\UIParent.lua:2274:attempt to compare number with nil... where will i find the error ? i gess the number 2274 tell me, but im not sure what it meens.. |
| 18:25.14 | vithos | you used SBF 3.0 beta 6? or is there another version somewhere |
| 18:25.25 | Shirik | molgar: Are you a developer |
| 18:25.26 | Shirik | ? |
| 18:25.43 | molgar | well, not rly, i just trying to learn it. |
| 18:25.54 | Shirik | well it says line 2274 of UIParent.lua |
| 18:25.59 | Shirik | but I don't think that's really where the error comes from |
| 18:26.26 | Shirik | you need the full call stack |
| 18:26.29 | MiximUmz | I want an addon that will auto-repair, show me cost in character screen and let me move the colored guy that shows which parts need repairs I used to use smoothdurability does anyone know something like that |
| 18:26.57 | molgar | hmm, full call stack ? |
| 18:27.07 | Shirik | lua> return debugstack() |
| 18:27.08 | lua_bot | Shirik: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'debugstack' (a nil value) |
| 18:27.09 | Shirik | er |
| 18:27.22 | Shirik | lua> pp(debug) |
| 18:27.22 | lua_bot | Shirik: nil |
| 18:27.33 | Shirik | --> for k,v in pairs(debug) print(k) end |
| 18:27.34 | batbot | Shirik: @ [string "for k,v in pairs(debug) print(k) end"]:1: 'do' expected near 'print' |
| 18:27.35 | matt1s | Ah there's some errors from dominos in the log when I hit previous |
| 18:27.41 | Shirik | --> for k,v in pairs(debug) do print(k) end |
| 18:27.41 | batbot | Shirik: getupvaluesethookshareupvalueupvaluegetmetatablegethooksetmetatablesetlocaltracebacksetfenvgetinfosetupvaluegetlocalgetfenv |
| 18:27.49 | Seerah | ~failrik |
| 18:27.50 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 18:27.53 | Shirik | --> return debug.traceback() |
| 18:27.53 | batbot | Shirik: > stack traceback:\n[string "return debug.traceback()"]:1: in main chunk |
| 18:28.08 | Shirik | That's a call stack ^ Though a very short one |
| 18:28.11 | Wikwocket | MiximUmz: DurabilityStatus will do most of that |
| 18:28.28 | Shirik | --> function foo() return bar() end function bar() return debug.traceback() end return foo() |
| 18:28.28 | batbot | Shirik: > stack traceback:\n[string "function foo() return bar() end function ba..."]:1: in function <[string "function foo() return bar() end function ba..."]:1>\n(tail call): ?\n(tail call): ? |
| 18:28.30 | mikma | hey, anyone coded with 3.0 and UIDropDownMenu |
| 18:28.41 | End | Shirik: what are you trying to break now? |
| 18:28.45 | Shirik | nothing |
| 18:28.45 | molgar | hmm, okey, i'll try read abit more about it |
| 18:28.48 | Shirik | showing what a call stack is |
| 18:28.49 | End | leave batbot alone! |
| 18:28.50 | End | :( |
| 18:28.56 | Shirik | molgar: Find a better error handler |
| 18:28.57 | Shirik | like Swatter |
| 18:29.20 | molgar | alright. ill try |
| 18:29.27 | molgar | ty dude |
| 18:29.30 | Shirik | np |
| 18:29.32 | matt1s | Seerah: I disabled the newest ark inventory, and then it worked as it should |
| 18:29.54 | End | wtf |
| 18:29.56 | Seerah | hrm... I was using ArkInventory on the beta, too. :P |
| 18:30.00 | End | spellstones aren't consider conjured |
| 18:30.02 | End | that's awesome! |
| 18:30.04 | End | :D |
| 18:30.06 | mikma | Seerah? Shirik? someone? :D |
| 18:30.11 | Shirik | wha? |
| 18:30.17 | mikma | hey, anyone coded with 3.0 and UIDropDownMenu |
| 18:30.24 | Shirik | I haven't |
| 18:30.34 | Seerah | no, sorry, mikma - I've been using AceConfig-3.0 |
| 18:30.41 | mikma | thanks anyway, both :) |
| 18:30.47 | mikma | i'll have a look at aceconfig them |
| 18:31.33 | Wikwocket | mikma: my mod which uses a dropdown broke in 3.0, haven't had a chance to look at it yet |
| 18:31.56 | mikma | Wikwocket: the same happened with ie. BaudGear, which is really nice and simple gearchanger addon. |
| 18:32.04 | Seerah | vithos: yes, that's the version he had (sorry, took a minute to look it up) |
| 18:32.17 | Seerah | err... actually... it was probably a version before that... |
| 18:33.06 | vithos | ah i figured out a workaround |
| 18:33.14 | mikma | umm, what? where's ui & macros from us forums? |
| 18:33.14 | Shirik | ~~~~~ |
| 18:33.15 | purl | grrrr |
| 18:33.15 | vithos | it saves the settings after i made a new named profile |
| 18:33.28 | vithos | instead of using the default one it made |
| 18:33.37 | End | ~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 18:33.37 | purl | No, really, STOP! |
| 18:33.51 | End | and looks at the house for sail |
| 18:33.51 | End | sale* |
| 18:33.56 | End | wow, I'm gonna shuddup now. |
| 18:34.55 | Seerah | mikma: ? |
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| 18:35.29 | matt1s | What is this 'Vehicle' bar that I can't hide in Dominos? |
| 18:35.30 | mikma | Seerah: i can't find ui & macros from us forums :D |
| 18:35.46 | Seerah | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=11114&sid=1 |
| 18:35.59 | mikma | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/ |
| 18:36.01 | Seerah | matt1s: it's the bar that you'll use when you use a vehicle in wotlk |
| 18:36.10 | mikma | see that one, its missing ui & macros completely :D |
| 18:36.15 | matt1s | Seerah: any idea why I have four of them and I can't hide it? |
| 18:36.20 | molgar | i got buggrabber and swatter now, and it says <sring>:"*:OnUpdate":1: in function <[string"*:OnUpdate"]:1>, so i gess its problem is something with OnUpdate on the fauxscrolltemplate.. the number :1:, what does it meens ? something i can use to get more spsific where in the code i find the issue ? |
| 18:36.24 | Seerah | matt1s: nope |
| 18:36.36 | Seerah | mikma: I see it |
| 18:36.37 | *** part/#wowuidev Malgayne (n=caseymon@cpe-24-30-145-15.san.res.rr.com) |
| 18:36.46 | mikma | Seerah: i don't O_o |
| 18:36.52 | Seerah | though when I clicked your link it took me to http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/index.html?sid=1 |
| 18:36.56 | NightHawkTheSane | and.. exalted with silvermoon |
| 18:37.15 | Seerah | hehe |
| 18:37.20 | mikma | Seerah: i see completely different page |
| 18:37.23 | *** join/#wowuidev Mark__ (n=chatzill@82-37-196-68.cable.ubr05.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 18:37.30 | Seerah | mikma: it's right under the world's end tavern role play one |
| 18:37.41 | Mark__ | evening people |
| 18:37.55 | Seerah | hello |
| 18:37.56 | Mark__ | i know this aint strictly a help cahnnel |
| 18:38.08 | mikma | Seerah: now i see other page that actually has it |
| 18:38.22 | Mark__ | but i need to know whats in the addon folder by default |
| 18:38.29 | Mark__ | so i can delete everything else |
| 18:38.40 | foxlit | delete everything |
| 18:38.40 | Seerah | by default? you mean the Blizzard_* mods? |
| 18:38.45 | Seerah | they'll get recreated |
| 18:38.48 | foxlit | anything that has to be there will be put there automatically |
| 18:39.05 | Mark__ | so i can delete eveything and start again safely huh? |
| 18:39.30 | Wikwocket | yup |
| 18:39.30 | Wikwocket | same as cache and WTF |
| 18:39.30 | Seerah | the Interface and WTF folders don't even exist upon install - they get recreated by the game |
| 18:39.33 | *** join/#wowuidev Lyn (n=Lyn@Lfb43.l.pppool.de) |
| 18:39.52 | mikma | Seerah: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/index.html?sid=2003 <- this is what i got when i entered "forums.worldofwarcraft.com" in urlbar after clearing firefox cache and stuff |
| 18:40.14 | Mark__ | ok cool, had a bit of a nightmare i replaced all my addons and my normal interface dissapeared |
| 18:40.40 | Mark__ | just meaning i had a pile of spells in middle of screen with no UI |
| 18:41.32 | Mark__ | will go try deleteing eveything .......... see what happens......... |
| 18:42.00 | Seerah | mikma: that does look different... but that's EU forums |
| 18:42.12 | ScytheBlade1 | mikma: ?sid=1 |
| 18:42.17 | ScytheBlade1 | mikma: will get you the US forums |
| 18:42.22 | mikma | lol |
| 18:42.33 | mikma | why does it take me into the wotlk eu forums as default |
| 18:42.39 | Seerah | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:42.44 | ScytheBlade1 | IP geodetection |
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| 18:43.03 | mikma | evil with a twist, evul! |
| 18:43.57 | Mark__ | cool that fixed it, cheers guys |
| 18:43.59 | mikma | umm |
| 18:44.09 | mikma | i'm getting a spam from bots |
| 18:44.28 | mikma | <2143> [freenode] <ktPUD> lua> function foo() print("A = ", a); end; a = 4; t = {}; t.foo = foo; foo(); t.foo(); setfenv(foo, {a = 1, print = print}); foo(); t.foo(); |
| 18:44.32 | Mark__ | here |
| 18:44.34 | mikma | this X 6 |
| 18:44.42 | Mark__ | same here |
| 18:44.43 | Shirik | mikma: umode +E |
| 18:44.53 | Shirik | wait, wtf |
| 18:44.58 | Shirik | That was a line of code I wrote yesterday |
| 18:44.59 | mikma | privatemessages |
| 18:45.12 | Shirik | yes, umode +E blocks unidentified pricate messages |
| 18:45.15 | ScytheBlade1 | mikma: /mode mikma +E |
| 18:45.26 | Shirik | I'm glad to see these bots pay attention to me |
| 18:45.37 | mikma | see, we love you |
| 18:45.41 | ScytheBlade1 | ..... |
| 18:45.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Lies and slander |
| 18:45.49 | mikma | ScytheBlade1: and you too |
| 18:45.55 | Wikwocket | Just lies, really |
| 18:46.06 | Mark__ | damn i dunno the name of an addon i deleted |
| 18:46.23 | Mark__ | i know its titanpanel |
| 18:46.40 | Mark__ | but theres so many to choose from on curse :/ |
| 18:46.56 | mikma | well there's your problem |
| 18:47.01 | ZorbaTHut | argh I am not yet high level enough to eat a pie |
| 18:47.03 | Seerah | titan panel (the actual panel) is not being updated on curse currently |
| 18:47.04 | ZorbaTHut | that is just depressing :( |
| 18:47.11 | End | level up so you can eat more pie |
| 18:47.13 | End | :D |
| 18:47.18 | mikma | :D |
| 18:47.24 | Mark__ | ahh thats a shame |
| 18:47.24 | Shirik | http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1842929/ |
| 18:47.40 | ZorbaTHut | in a battle between me and pie, the pie would be victorious. |
| 18:47.48 | Mark__ | was cool the way it included loads of differnt stuff |
| 18:47.54 | Seerah | it's on wowinterface |
| 18:48.16 | Mark__ | seerah its on wowinterface instead? |
| 18:48.26 | Seerah | yes. It's been on wowi for a long time :P |
| 18:48.41 | Mark__ | :) whats the proper name for the one im on about |
| 18:48.55 | Seerah | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/cat99.html |
| 18:49.01 | mikma | (this whole site is nsfw, but anyway, emo to the max, and yes, nsfw) http://apina.biz/10060 |
| 18:49.45 | Mark__ | ty seerah its the standard titan panel i guess |
| 18:51.29 | Lyn | anyone knows how to disable the chatframe hover background? pre 3.0 you just had to lock the chat.. now it doesnt work :< |
| 18:52.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Lyn: the "old functionality" sounds like a bug, as it *always* did that for me, even without addons. |
| 18:53.34 | Lyn | wtf |
| 18:53.38 | Lyn | that is fugly :/ |
| 18:53.43 | Lyn | i dont want that hover background |
| 18:54.16 | Shirik | ~wowcompares |
| 18:54.16 | purl | from memory, wowcompares is http://wowcompares.com |
| 18:54.45 | Lyn | i am on wowcompares atm :P |
| 18:56.36 | Shirik | that was for me |
| 18:57.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Lyn: I like it. I set the background to a dark blue, and transparency to 0%. That way when I mouse over, I get on-demand contrast against whatever is under the chat frame in the world. |
| 18:57.54 | Lyn | shirikah, koay :p |
| 18:57.56 | Lyn | *ah okay |
| 18:58.00 | Lyn | ScytheBlade1, i dont |
| 18:58.10 | ScytheBlade1 | "Write an addon" ;) |
| 18:58.39 | Lyn | :p |
| 19:00.03 | Mark__ | slowley gettin my addons back to normal, shame i have to join a q to get on my server each time i check one :) |
| 19:00.38 | Mark__ | whilst im im here, wanna say all u addon writers are appreciated :) |
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| 19:01.34 | foxlit | In your interface, ruining your experience? :) |
| 19:02.45 | foxlit | Could they have made a more annoying loading screen? |
| 19:02.51 | Mark__ | heh |
| 19:02.59 | Mark__ | shame its a big loop eh |
| 19:03.21 | Mark__ | i have to watch that dragon thingie 10 times before i get on my server |
| 19:03.22 | foxlit | Might just have to choke that wyrm. |
| 19:03.49 | Mark__ | dragon thingie < -- u can tell ive only been playin a few weeks |
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| 19:10.49 | linear` | id dk, Death Knight or Deathknight if youre a dk and you do UnitClass('player')? |
| 19:10.52 | linear` | is dk* |
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| 19:17.20 | kneeki | linear`: "Death Knight" and "DEATHKNIGHT" |
| 19:17.41 | kneeki | The first is whatever language your client uses |
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| 19:34.30 | ShaneSveller | just to fact-check, the TOC file is not reread until the client is restarted, right? files listed in the TOC are, but the TOC itself is not? |
| 19:34.40 | Lunessa | brb, reboot |
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| 19:35.38 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Esamynn dear. |
| 19:37.47 | NightHawkTheSane | you know. i wonder how many people on pvp servers will be DK hunting for the last part of the 'That Takes Class' Achievement. |
| 19:37.58 | NightHawkTheSane | (on wotlk release, i mean) |
| 19:38.05 | bleeter | omg it's Esamynn FLEE!!! |
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| 19:38.40 | Shirik | Station! |
| 19:38.41 | linear` | do key bindings |
| 19:38.43 | linear` | load locally |
| 19:38.47 | linear` | if it cant |
| 19:38.50 | linear` | then it does it serverside? |
| 19:38.56 | Lunessa | station indeed. Plus I have a righeously big martian butt. |
| 19:39.06 | Lopeppeppy | ... |
| 19:39.16 | Shirik | ... what? |
| 19:39.29 | Lopeppeppy | Martian butt? WTF. |
| 19:39.32 | Lunessa | Dude. You really need to watch the movies again. |
| 19:39.36 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, that's random even by my standard. |
| 19:40.16 | Lunessa | In Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey, the character Station was from mars, and had a big butt, a comment Ted makes to him early on. |
| 19:40.20 | ScytheBlade1 | linear`: key binds are stored on the server. |
| 19:40.25 | Shirik | Bil & Ted? |
| 19:40.59 | Lunessa | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101452/ |
| 19:41.25 | bleeter | for those who missed the Jesus Phone ringtone yesterday.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci_-6pY-DzM |
| 19:42.05 | foxlit | "We are aware of the issue with the Battlegrounds, where players from all European Battlegroups may encounter each other" |
| 19:42.12 | Pheredhel | somebody wanted to talk to me? |
| 19:42.12 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:42.14 | kd3 | oh wow |
| 19:42.23 | kd3 | what are the queues like in europe atm? |
| 19:42.23 | foxlit | ^^ hey, that should be a feature, you muppets. |
| 19:42.40 | bleeter | foxlit++ |
| 19:42.41 | foxlit | kd3: most battlegroups are offline. |
| 19:42.46 | kd3 | har |
| 19:43.00 | foxlit | What isn't generally doesn't have a queue; my realm had 2 minutes worth of people |
| 19:43.44 | Lunessa | "Grim Reaper: Don't overlook my butt, I work out all the time. And reaping burns a lot of calories. " |
| 19:44.36 | |Yssaril| | what event fires when i cast an instant spell (like a companion pet?) |
| 19:46.46 | Mikk | Yssaril: Install iriel's devtools and find out. Easiest way. Most instructive. |
| 19:46.49 | Mikk | ~devtools |
| 19:46.50 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 19:47.03 | Yssaril | Mikk: thanks |
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| 19:48.13 | Mikk | SOOO on another note... Weren't we supposed to get more args passed to chat filtering functions? |
| 19:48.18 | Mikk | I'm still only seeing arg1 being passed to us |
| 19:48.24 | Mikk | And now there's no way of getting hold of arg2 etc =( |
| 19:48.43 | foxlit | I thought they were still global |
| 19:49.13 | Mikk | Aeuhm no? Unless chatframe code makes them global |
| 19:51.33 | foxlit | That's a strange thing to check, Mikk. |
| 19:52.44 | Mikk | Not really seeing as how there's lua in it |
| 19:53.53 | foxlit | You checking XML/Lua code isn't going to yield any result that you can subsequently use. |
| 19:54.07 | foxlit | If event vars are global to begin with, you won't see anything. |
| 19:54.14 | Mikk | You're aware of the 3.0 changes yes? |
| 19:54.24 | foxlit | If they're not made global (which would be a silly way to solve a passing problem), you won't see anything |
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| 19:54.49 | Wikwocket | |Yssaril|: you can detect an instant cast by watching for UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT, with a castTime (7th return val of GetSpellInfo) of zero |
| 19:55.00 | Wikwocket | ( http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetSpellInfo ) |
| 19:55.30 | foxlit | Mikk: I'm aware of the 3.0 changes. |
| 19:55.45 | foxlit | Are you aware of what the 3.0.2 client actually does? :) |
| 19:55.51 | Mikk | So er enlighten me.. did the "no more globals for events" change get rescinded? |
| 19:56.05 | foxlit | It's not live, in any case. |
| 19:56.27 | matt1s | Where is ArkInventory hosted originally? On curse? |
| 19:56.52 | Mikk | wowace.com is where it is developed. releases get pushed to curse. |
| 19:56.55 | Mikk | automatically |
| 19:57.05 | Mikk | i don't know if he uploads to anywhere else |
| 19:57.05 | Lunessa | Aww.. http://xkcd.com/489/ |
| 19:57.43 | foxlit | Besides I'm not sure where you're taking that exact phrasing from |
| 19:57.43 | matt1s | Mikk: oh ok, since there's some problems with it. I was hoping I might just do a SVN checkout or something to get the latest |
| 19:58.23 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa: Awwww. |
| 19:58.35 | Lunessa | The Alt text really nails it. |
| 19:58.41 | Pheredhel | uh, ok, maybe someone can hepl me what to do: |
| 19:58.56 | Lopeppeppy | I do like the alt text on some of the xkcd's. |
| 19:59.58 | Pheredhel | my addon got rejected, (right, I didn't manage to add text, tue to the load) , now i generated a new zip, published it, and don't have an addon page to edit, so I can't upload any pics... what to do now? |
| 20:00.48 | Lopeppeppy | You're referring to something submitted to an addon site? Which site? |
| 20:01.24 | Mikk | matt1s: yeah that's from wowace.com |
| 20:01.52 | Pheredhel | oh, wowinterface |
| 20:01.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Know what's incredibly disgusting? The insides of your computer mouse that you've had for years |
| 20:01.59 | Pheredhel | sorry, should have mentioned this |
| 20:03.17 | Mikk | ScytheBlade1: Ball mouse? Yeah they get pretty ick :P |
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| 20:03.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Mikk: optical. The mouse wheel. |
| 20:03.33 | Mikk | Ahh |
| 20:03.38 | Mikk | I'm sure it can't beat an old keyboard though |
| 20:03.38 | matt1s | My ArkInventory doesn't work for me, and it's the newest release. Comments on Curse says they also have problems with Ark. I need a bagmod that can categorize like Ark does and I want a searchable list like Sanity has.. Any recommandations? |
| 20:03.39 | Slakah | Pheredhel: do a search for your addon and it should show up but you won't be able to download it iirc. |
| 20:03.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Mine had more or less stopped working |
| 20:03.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Turns out there was a reason for that. |
| 20:03.52 | Mikk | matt1s: Baggins |
| 20:03.57 | Mikk | + Baggins_Search |
| 20:04.00 | Lunessa | ScytheBlade1: That's why I clean my logitch trackman wheel every couple of days... to limit the *squick* factor. |
| 20:04.00 | Slakah | matt1s: You tried combuctor? |
| 20:04.19 | matt1s | Mikk: thanks I'll take a look |
| 20:04.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: I just took my MX510 apart and scrubbed it good. |
| 20:04.26 | Mikk | Baggins is very involved though, it's not for the faint of heart |
| 20:04.31 | Lunessa | Good call. |
| 20:04.31 | Mikk | Combuctor is certainly easier driving |
| 20:04.39 | Mikk | All depends on what you want |
| 20:04.51 | matt1s | I'll try both :-) I liked flexbar so I guess I can handle some configuration |
| 20:05.19 | Lopeppeppy | Pheredhel, perhaps Shirik or Seerah can answer that question when they're available. I don't know enough about the submission process as WoW Interface. |
| 20:05.30 | Shirik | wha? |
| 20:06.20 | Pheredhel | hmm, I can't find it slakah, maybe because it was rejected the first time... |
| 20:06.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: the real trick is getting it back together :D |
| 20:06.59 | Lunessa | Sbo - yes, yes indeed. |
| 20:07.03 | Pheredhel | the question is just, do I have to talk to somebody to get it done now? |
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| 20:07.52 | Slakah | Pheredhel: whats it's name? |
| 20:07.58 | Shirik | I don't see anything by you, Pheredhel |
| 20:08.03 | Shirik | at least not pending |
| 20:08.06 | Pheredhel | CCbreaker |
| 20:08.33 | Pheredhel | hmm, after generating the zip its it's also not up there so i could reset it... |
| 20:09.43 | Pheredhel | hmm, ok, maybe i just did something wrong... I'll retry then |
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| 20:10.28 | Pheredhel | thanks shirik |
| 20:11.08 | Mikk | foxlit: damn, you're absolutely right. the globals are still being set. |
| 20:11.11 | Mikk | even "this" |
| 20:11.14 | Mikk | what the hell |
| 20:11.53 | NeoTron | seems like hyperchipmunk made an appearance here 11 days ago after being absent for a very long time. |
| 20:11.59 | NeoTron | mt :P |
| 20:12.36 | Pheredhel | hmm, ok, maybe i don't get it right, but does it make a difference if I flag it beta on wowinterface? |
| 20:13.31 | Slakah | It just puts it in a different category, I think. |
| 20:14.19 | Mikk | foxlit: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202271194&sid=1&pageNo=1 * The blizzard UI is being converted to use 'self' and the other local arguments in favor of 'this' and argN. The old style arguments are going to be obsoleted, so AddOn code needs to be updated too. |
| 20:14.25 | Mikk | But that doesn't seem to be the case.... yet. |
| 20:14.30 | Pheredhel | hmm, ok, then it should definetely be there... |
| 20:14.32 | foxlit | The way I parse it |
| 20:14.45 | foxlit | The conversion of blizzard code is an ongoing process. |
| 20:15.12 | Mikk | And addons need to be updated if they hook and call and stuff... |
| 20:15.16 | Mikk | Yeah, I guess that makes sense |
| 20:15.17 | |pez| | damnit, I have a stuck pixel on my screen... and it's green >__> |
| 20:15.33 | foxlit | There's no real deadline to obsolete anything; and yeah -- API changes to reflect new style, addon updates are needed. |
| 20:15.36 | Mikk | I just read it as the globals being obsoleted period. And I know for a fact a lot of others did too. |
| 20:15.52 | vithos | |pez|: thanks for reminding me about all those stuck pixels i have but haven't noticed in a year |
| 20:16.11 | |pez| | .. vithos: sorry... XD |
| 20:16.16 | foxlit | Tend to associate obsolete with "it's there, but the dinosaurs will eat you if you try to use it" rather than "it'll be removed." |
| 20:16.37 | Mikk | Hahaha |
| 20:16.43 | Shirik | Pheredhel: the beta flag has no impact afaik |
| 20:16.50 | Shirik | are you still having problems |
| 20:17.19 | Pheredhel | yes |
| 20:17.40 | Pheredhel | i generated the zip again an went "publish" nothing happens |
| 20:17.44 | matt1s | Mikk: baggins is awesome |
| 20:17.47 | matt1s | Mikk: thanks! |
| 20:17.52 | Pheredhel | i'm just back at the svn overview |
| 20:19.29 | matt1s | Mikk: too bad the Baggins_Search thing isn't updated |
| 20:20.08 | Shirik | what's the name of the project again? |
| 20:20.31 | Pheredhel | CCBreaker |
| 20:20.42 | Shirik | do you have a link to the project? |
| 20:21.45 | Pheredhel | http://svn.wowinterface.com/listing.php?repname=CCBreaker&path=%2F&sc=0 |
| 20:22.39 | Fisker- | come with me if you want to live Shirik |
| 20:22.40 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 20:26.45 | Shirik | Pheredhel: Try now |
| 20:27.30 | Pheredhel | ok |
| 20:28.05 | Pheredhel | yes, now it works, thank you |
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| 20:30.07 | Tem|work | okay |
| 20:30.09 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p92zWiEX37o <- why does this HORRIBLE song always remind me of WoW?!? |
| 20:30.18 | Tem|work | this scroll of recall thread is epic win |
| 20:30.28 | Tem|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:30.40 | mikma | Tem|work: hahaha |
| 20:30.45 | Tem|work | Unpredictable Result# 7531 You do not require more vespene gas. |
| 20:30.58 | kneeki | Tem|work: hahaha |
| 20:31.17 | Shirik | what is this? |
| 20:31.41 | Tem|work | Unpredictable Result #6002: You are, in fact, eaten by a grue. |
| 20:32.42 | Wikwocket | Is that the thread where someone said the scroll caused WoW to crash, and someone else said, well it DID say unpredictable results? |
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| 20:33.22 | Tem|work | Unpredictable Result #64: Transfer failed: Instance not found. |
| 20:33.30 | Tem|work | Wikwocket: yes :) |
| 20:35.04 | Fisker- | awsum Tem|work |
| 20:35.07 | Fisker- | i like you |
| 20:35.20 | Ruphin | Hey, is there anyone here who could answer some basic questions I have about addon programming? |
| 20:35.53 | ScytheBlade1 | ~asktoask |
| 20:35.54 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 20:36.18 | Mark__ | Gah all the euro servers just exploded |
| 20:37.39 | foxlit | "you have 5 activations on 3 separate PCs" |
| 20:37.43 | foxlit | how dos that make sense? |
| 20:37.46 | foxlit | s/os/oes/ |
| 20:38.26 | Tem|work | Unpredictable Result # 231654: You transform into a newt, but eventuality get better. |
| 20:38.51 | Shirik | where are you seeing this o.o |
| 20:39.09 | Pheredhel | hmm, on wowinterface, it automaticly checks "works with wotlk" is this true for every addon that works now, or has it to be checked in beta? |
| 20:39.20 | Ruphin | Well sure, here goes then. I'm a somewhat experienced OO programmer in Java and Ruby. I can read LUA relatively well and understand what happens, but I have no idea how to go about building an addon, or just giving form to ideas that I have for addons. |
| 20:39.27 | krka | Ruphin: Lua is actually a portuguese word and it means "moon" |
| 20:40.27 | Ruphin | Can you recommend some reading on the subject? Things to just learn what are the useful APIs, frameworks, and the like |
| 20:40.38 | Shirik | ~wowprogramming |
| 20:40.39 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons (http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob) a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 20:40.39 | ScytheBlade1 | wowwiki.com/API |
| 20:40.41 | alestane | ~pil |
| 20:40.42 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 20:40.55 | Mikk | matt1s: if baggins_search isnt updated by tomorrow, yours truly will do violence to it |
| 20:41.04 | Ruphin | Thanks |
| 20:41.49 | Wikwocket | Pheredhel: "works with wotlk" probably defaults to true since it's assumed that if you're releasing a mod now, it does, but you can always uncheck it |
| 20:42.01 | Tem|work | lua> 1-(2/3)^3 |
| 20:42.02 | lua_bot | Tem|work: 0.7037037037037 |
| 20:42.39 | Pheredhel | I have no beta account, but I guess the api won't change again with the wotlk release... thats my problem ;) |
| 20:43.21 | Dewin | I don't see why the API would change with WOTLK, since we're basically running the WOTLK release right now |
| 20:43.22 | Wikwocket | Ah I see. 3.0.2 is basically = wotlk code |
| 20:43.22 | ScytheBlade1 | You have the live beta API in front of you |
| 20:43.40 | Dewin | maybe a few minor changes, a new function or two, a bugfix or two, but nothing that should be incompatible |
| 20:43.58 | Pheredhel | ok, thenn I can keep it, thanks |
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| 20:48.52 | Syzgyn | Did blizzard break messing with nameplates? Or is aloft just not updated anymore |
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| 20:50.55 | Dewin | they're protected afaik |
| 20:51.01 | ZealotOnAStick | There's an updated version of Aloft that mostly works on wowace |
| 20:51.11 | Dewin | Bleh. Google changed their personalized home page and the new version is bleh |
| 20:51.18 | erikd | anyone know if you have to be a GM of a guild to do a mass invite on the calendar filtered by guild rank? |
| 20:51.27 | ZealotOnAStick | if you have anything that uses gratuity3 though it'll bitch about conflicts in versions of the lib |
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| 20:51.50 | ScytheBlade1 | erikd: no, all you need is the ability to create a guild event (which is set by the GM) |
| 20:51.53 | Syzgyn | I can live with that, I downloaded the latest from curse and its doing nothing |
| 20:52.11 | erikd | i assume that with the new patch it's defaulted to off? |
| 20:52.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes |
| 20:52.28 | erikd | gotcha, thanks |
| 20:52.28 | ScytheBlade1 | For everyone but the GM and Officer ranks |
| 20:52.36 | erikd | ok, that's weird then |
| 20:52.56 | erikd | i'm an officer and when i created a raid and tried to do a mass invite the only filter i could do was my 2v2 |
| 20:53.01 | erikd | everything else was greyed out |
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| 20:53.12 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd have to login and at the moment I'm mouseless, so.. |
| 20:53.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Sorry :) |
| 20:53.36 | erikd | i'll spend some time messing with it tonight, see if i can figure it out |
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| 20:53.52 | erikd | oooh, i know what it is |
| 20:53.57 | erikd | we have 3 ranks of officers |
| 20:53.58 | Codex| | so the prat module that is -supposed- to remember chat channel colors, is, well, forgetful |
| 20:54.03 | erikd | GM, Raid Leader and Officer |
| 20:54.17 | erikd | I bet the 3rd rank down doesn't get it by default |
| 20:54.17 | ScytheBlade1 | RL is the only one that would have it by default |
| 20:55.02 | Subdino | hi. I'm trying to write an addon to just enable mouse wheel scroll of chat area. I found sample code for that feature (...from an outdated CT_Core) but I need to figure out how to get it to execute. |
| 20:55.26 | Dewin | Subdino: Might take a look at ChatScroll, which does nothing but that |
| 20:55.52 | sylvanaar | Codex| SS or it didnt happen |
| 20:55.52 | Subdino | Dewin: great. url ? |
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| 20:56.36 | sylvanaar | its one function call |
| 20:56.36 | Subdino | gah, found it, nevermind |
| 20:56.57 | sylvanaar | :EnableMouseWheel(true) |
| 20:58.04 | kd3 | rofl. my first "how the hell did you get that bear mount?" tell today |
| 20:58.28 | alestane | kd3: The BlizzCon one? |
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| 20:58.31 | sylvanaar | Codex| it remembers colors by name, and if you leave a channel it sets the color back to the default |
| 20:58.31 | kd3 | ya |
| 20:58.45 | alestane | I've been holding off on mine until the servers seemed more stable. |
| 20:58.56 | kd3 | they're fine |
| 20:59.05 | kd3 | haven't seen a world server crash at all today on my realm |
| 20:59.14 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: I have a friend with the ZA bear mount. It's a large server. Every so often, he gets a random tell |
| 20:59.19 | ScytheBlade1 | "How'd you get that mount????" |
| 20:59.25 | kd3 | o_O |
| 20:59.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Every time, he replies, "I caught it" |
| 20:59.31 | kd3 | rofl |
| 20:59.49 | ScytheBlade1 | And when they go "how??" |
| 20:59.53 | ScytheBlade1 | He replies "like a fish" |
| 20:59.54 | linear` | any mods that have cpu profiling on mods? |
| 20:59.56 | linear` | that work |
| 21:00.02 | kd3 | performancefu's working iirc |
| 21:00.03 | Lukian | linear`, Fubar_Usage |
| 21:01.28 | Subdino | mmh, is "EnableMouseWheel; SetScript" execution order safe ? |
| 21:01.59 | Codex| | sylvanaar: but after i join it agan, its white |
| 21:02.00 | Subdino | or is it just impossible to SetScript("OnMouseWheel") without mousewheel enabled ? |
| 21:04.16 | Dewin | OnMouseWheel simply won't fire without mousewheel enabled I think. |
| 21:05.40 | Subdino | in that order, mousewheel might fire before hook/script is set |
| 21:05.42 | Tem|work | Unpredictable Result # 737: Ghostcrawler is a MAN baby!!! |
| 21:05.55 | bleeter | heh |
| 21:06.01 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 21:06.09 | zenzelezz | sometimes people's logic just baffle me. "I'm a 70 warrior getting beat up in AV. How can I find out how to improve? I know! Let's ask the level 70 doing Zul'Farrak" |
| 21:06.10 | Dewin | Subdino: Howso? I don't think events can fire while you're still in lua code. |
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| 21:07.50 | Dewin | I'm pretty sure the UI in general is single-threaded (or at least acts like it), so you'll never have two pieces of code running at the same time and thus no chance for a race condition |
| 21:08.19 | Subdino | ah, I see |
| 21:09.37 | Dewin | It's basically something like: while(event) handleevent(event); event = nextevent end |
| 21:09.43 | ZealotOnAStick | Woot. TipTac update! |
| 21:10.09 | Tem|work | Dewin: your assertion that the ui is single-threaded is correct |
| 21:11.29 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: you encountering a fair bit of WoW locking up when you logout? |
| 21:11.36 | kd3 | somewhat |
| 21:11.51 | ScytheBlade1 | err:ntdll:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection section 0x4aa5884 "?" wait timed out in thread 001c, blocked by 0009, retrying (60 sec) |
| 21:11.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Every time you logout? |
| 21:12.00 | kd3 | not every time iirc |
| 21:12.02 | ScytheBlade1 | (Or do you run it consoleless?) |
| 21:12.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Hm |
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| 21:13.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Might be time to pull and rebuild again |
| 21:14.00 | Codex| | sylvanaar: the prat color remembering module isnt remembering upon re-entry, tho |
| 21:18.12 | Subdino | what des it mean when addons are (partly) in red in addon list (but not marqued as missing a dependancy nor outdated) ? |
| 21:18.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Subdino: yes, known bug in WoW |
| 21:18.34 | Subdino | ah, no meaning ? |
| 21:18.37 | Yssaril | cladhaire: any reason why when i go to the interface/addons options it always gos straight to tomtom when first viewed? even if i try to open it to a different location? |
| 21:18.48 | Subdino | I was wondering if it was like a deprecation warning... |
| 21:18.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Subdino: if you're comfortable modifying the .toc files, then remove the "LoadOnDemand: 1" line in them and they will load/function properly |
| 21:19.09 | Subdino | ah, thanks for the hint. I'll do that |
| 21:19.30 | cladhaire | Yssaril: not sure.. TomTom category is added when you open the frame for the first time |
| 21:19.33 | cladhaire | that may be part of it, not sure |
| 21:20.24 | Yssaril | cladhaire: anyway to fix that? |
| 21:21.08 | mikma | so how can i actually view what is inside my wowi svn? :D (other than checkouting the whole dir) |
| 21:21.53 | Gngsk | Tekkub, ping |
| 21:21.57 | Tekkub | wut |
| 21:22.15 | bleeter | kd3, ScytheBlade1 et al: you guys use any disk imaging/backing up foo, like g4u etc.? I'm seeking suggestions (I used g4u before, just curious of anything else out there) |
| 21:22.18 | Gngsk | if you send Spew() a bool it complains about not being able to concat input on line 99 |
| 21:22.25 | kd3 | not I |
| 21:22.27 | cladhaire | Yssaril: yep, I can commit a new version in a second |
| 21:22.31 | cladhaire | mikma: svn.wowinterface.com |
| 21:22.39 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: be a man, use dd |
| 21:22.43 | bleeter | just spent two days rebuilding my lappy, a disk image would be nice lol |
| 21:22.49 | Tekkub | you're using Spew() directly? |
| 21:22.51 | Yssaril | cladhaire: sweet thanks |
| 21:22.52 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: g4u uses dd, nubbock :P |
| 21:23.00 | mikma | cladhaire: now that was easy :) |
| 21:23.01 | cladhaire | TomTom_Config.lua:598 |
| 21:23.02 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: which is why you manually invoke dd |
| 21:23.03 | cladhaire | remove that line |
| 21:23.07 | Gngsk | Tekkub, yeah is that a mortal sin? |
| 21:23.21 | Tekkub | no, just give it the args it expects |
| 21:23.30 | Gngsk | okay, fair enough |
| 21:23.37 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: pffft, I'd rather have a custom bootalbe CD/floppy etc. all that can do the dd then ftp it out for me.. hence, g4u atm :P |
| 21:24.11 | Tekkub | first arg is a string, the rest are the vlaues to spew |
| 21:24.17 | Gngsk | gotcha |
| 21:24.32 | Gngsk | i see that now, thx for the clarification though. prolly should've checked that before I pinged you |
| 21:24.38 | Tekkub | i.e. Spew("blah, meh", blah, meh) |
| 21:24.43 | Gngsk | yah |
| 21:26.19 | bleeter | dd if=/dev/zero of=/0bits bs=20971520 && rm /0bits |
| 21:26.21 | bleeter | bah |
| 21:26.35 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: it's all your fault! |
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| 21:30.10 | erikd | if (you.HasToSpew) { this.Cup = you.Spew(); } |
| 21:30.27 | erikd | reminded me of wayne's world |
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| 21:33.53 | Ntruder | can anyone help me with UIDropDownMenu? It's been acting funny since the patch. |
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| 21:34.15 | cladhaire | Yssaril: commiting it now. |
| 21:34.19 | cladhaire | Ntruder: the order of the arguments changed |
| 21:34.25 | Ntruder | ahhhhh |
| 21:34.27 | cladhaire | you shoudl look at the usage in the corresponding file |
| 21:34.34 | cladhaire | off the top of my head |
| 21:34.46 | Yssaril | cladhaire: thanks |
| 21:34.47 | cladhaire | _SetText now takes the frame first, then the string |
| 21:35.02 | cladhaire | pretty much all of those functions take the frame as the first arg |
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| 21:36.30 | |Jelly| | ~hug Shirik |
| 21:36.31 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on Shirik and suddenly hugs Shirik tightly |
| 21:36.46 | Codex| | who else is having trouble with prat's channel color remembering module |
| 21:37.43 | sylvanaar | Codex| i asked you for more info, still waiting |
| 21:37.52 | Slakah | Is there anyway to stop the UIOptionsFrame stopping UISpecialFrames from showing? |
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| 21:39.09 | Codex| | sylvanaar: whatd you ask for? |
| 21:39.19 | sylvanaar | Codex| http://www.wowace.com/projects/prat-3-0/tickets/ |
| 21:39.19 | foxlit | did wowi get new hamsters, then? :) |
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| 21:39.37 | bleeter | foxlit: prolly put the existing on a piano |
| 21:39.41 | bleeter | and fed them popcorn |
| 21:39.52 | Codex| | there isnt a ticket about the color module, tho |
| 21:40.51 | erikd | sylvanaar: i noticed prat was coloring names of people with their class, does that autocomplete names (arak -> arakthor) or is it only full names that match? |
| 21:40.56 | erikd | it's a cool feature :) |
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| 21:42.12 | sb | haste: thx for fane updates :) |
| 21:42.18 | haste | :3 |
| 21:42.36 | haste | took a day extra since I actually had to install WoW tho' :( |
| 21:42.54 | sb | hehe :p |
| 21:43.00 | sb | now that you installed wow... |
| 21:43.14 | sylvanaar | erikd its full names only |
| 21:43.19 | sb | are you going to do some xloot master replacement? :p (butsu extension) |
| 21:43.53 | ShaneSveller | sb have you tried teksloot? wait, that doesn't do master loot, sry |
| 21:44.10 | sylvanaar | erikd you can set up other names using the custom filters module, but that module is quite complicated |
| 21:45.35 | erikd | ah, i don't really have a need for that. i just noticed last night that sometimes when guildies would typically use short names (like the arakthor example) it was being highlighted. that's why it made me wonder if it was autocompleting or not |
| 21:45.46 | sb | ShaneSveller: yup, need that master loot part :( |
| 21:46.06 | sb | oh.. maybe Tekkub wants to do some masterloot plugin for teksloot? :) |
| 21:46.20 | Tekkub | noep |
| 21:47.19 | bleeter | maybe Tekkub would accept a patch if it were clean and followed coding style? |
| 21:47.33 | sb | hmhmm :) |
| 21:47.37 | erikd | anyone know if there are any calendar mods out yet? i finally have a mod idea and i want to make sure nobody's done it yet so i don't duplicate work |
| 21:47.42 | sb | but i think a standalone addon would do better |
| 21:47.45 | Tekkub | shouldn't ML be it's own standalone addon? |
| 21:47.51 | sb | yep :p |
| 21:48.03 | Tekkub | which is why I didn't do it :P |
| 21:48.07 | sb | but "plugin" sounds like you want to do it.. ;) |
| 21:48.13 | sb | so yes.. standalone mod *sigh* |
| 21:49.11 | haste | sb: nope |
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| 21:50.48 | Dreagar | ok so i found player cancel summon, what event goes off when the player accepts it? |
| 21:52.25 | clad|sleep | CANCEL_SUMMONFires when a summon attempt was cancled. |
| 21:52.26 | clad|sleep | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events |
| 21:52.38 | clad|sleep | canceled being spelled wrong is teh awesome. |
| 21:52.51 | ReAn | clad|sleep |
| 21:52.54 | ReAn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7221-SpartanUI.html <--- wtf? |
| 21:53.32 | ReAn | nvm, it seems to be working now |
| 21:53.37 | clad|sleep | lol |
| 21:53.46 | clad|sleep | flood prevention |
| 21:53.50 | clad|sleep | that's all I'll say :P |
| 21:53.52 | Dreagar | lol. yeah i know when it's cancelled, but how do i find out when a user accepts a summon. |
| 21:53.54 | clad|sleep | you just got weirded |
| 21:54.05 | clad|sleep | oh my bag |
| 21:54.06 | clad|sleep | bad |
| 21:54.12 | clad|sleep | Dreagar: they'll zone, if nothing else.. |
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| 21:55.22 | clad|sleep | Dreagar: you can check for P_E_W or ZONE_CHANGED or ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA or ZONE_CHANGED_INDOORS |
| 21:55.30 | clad|sleep | but I dont know what happens if you're summoned to right next to where you sit |
| 21:55.33 | clad|sleep | if you need to handle that |
| 21:55.35 | Dreagar | true, but how do i know if its because of a summon? i can check to see if it's a hearth, or a teleport, but i can't see the difference between changing zones by walking, Portal, or summonns. :( |
| 21:56.01 | clad|sleep | you'd have to check that they accepted a summon and wait for the next event |
| 21:56.05 | clad|sleep | you'd know that its a summon zone then |
| 21:56.21 | Dreagar | right! but how do i find out if they accepted a summon? :) |
| 21:57.15 | Dreagar | i'm not just sittin here, i'm still lookin but i been at it a few hours here, and no go . so i gettin irritated. lol |
| 21:58.24 | sb | ohh btw addons |
| 21:58.35 | sb | Tekkub: is it possible to fix tektickles? |
| 21:58.54 | bleeter | Dreagar: I'm curious why you want to know if someone accepts. If they accept, they're gunna be standing right next to you in a couple of seconds. |
| 21:59.24 | Dreagar | i need to collect that data for an addon |
| 21:59.39 | Dreagar | every time someone gets summoned, hearthed, teleports or portals. |
| 21:59.58 | Tekkub | define "fix" |
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| 22:00.05 | clad|sleep | Dreagar: hook the API function.. |
| 22:00.20 | Dreagar | yeah i was just searchin thru them for the summon function. |
| 22:00.21 | clad|sleep | !api ConfirmSummon |
| 22:00.21 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'ConfirmSummon' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/ConfirmSummon |
| 22:00.28 | Dreagar | awesome! thanks clad |
| 22:00.31 | clad|sleep | np |
| 22:00.40 | clad|sleep | portals are impossible tho |
| 22:00.54 | Slakah | Not really |
| 22:00.54 | clad|sleep | unless you track for X minutes before it happens, to see if someone cast a portal spell |
| 22:00.55 | Dreagar | yea, i'm thinkin you're right. |
| 22:01.07 | clad|sleep | and if no other transportation method happened.. then it was PROBABLy a summon |
| 22:01.29 | clad|sleep | but I can't think of a way right now to discern in an event/api driven way when a portal happens |
| 22:01.29 | Dreagar | only way to tell for sure is if you're in the group when the portal spell was cast. if you join after it was cast and use the portal, there's no way to tell. |
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| 22:01.37 | clad|sleep | well |
| 22:01.41 | clad|sleep | you could technically hook teh tooltip |
| 22:01.45 | clad|sleep | and see when it displays a portal |
| 22:01.47 | Slakah | Yup |
| 22:01.52 | bleeter | Dreagar: ah, I thought you were looking to do something from the summoner's PoV |
| 22:01.53 | Dreagar | woah, slick. |
| 22:01.53 | Dewin | Eh... if you REALLY need to know if you took a portal, you could noticing the sudden jump in location and the presence near one of the portal landing areas |
| 22:01.58 | clad|sleep | and hook the right-click on the 3-d world |
| 22:01.59 | bleeter | Dreagar: apologies :) |
| 22:01.59 | Dewin | since there's no way to hearth to them. |
| 22:02.19 | Dreagar | oo that'd work too. |
| 22:02.20 | Dewin | that'd require addon knowledge of where portal landings are however |
| 22:02.39 | Dreagar | yeah, that shouldn't be a big deal guildies can give me the alliance ones. |
| 22:02.41 | Dewin | Note that a mage teleporting himself would be considered taking a portal |
| 22:02.54 | Dewin | by that logic |
| 22:02.56 | clad|sleep | you dont want to do it with location |
| 22:02.59 | clad|sleep | use the tooltip and the right-click |
| 22:02.59 | bleeter | Dreagar: don't forget to track engi teleporters and class portals |
| 22:03.01 | clad|sleep | its much more reliable. |
| 22:03.04 | Dreagar | oh yeah, i already handle the teleport ones |
| 22:03.05 | clad|sleep | and covers all the wacky things |
| 22:03.14 | Dreagar | engineers can teleport??? hell |
| 22:03.26 | Dreagar | i'll do that thanks again clad |
| 22:03.40 | ReAn | anyone know a mod like eePanels that is updated? |
| 22:03.46 | Dreagar | now i need a smoke so i can cuss. lol |
| 22:03.53 | bleeter | Dreagar: two locations per specialisation |
| 22:04.40 | Dewin | I imagine 3 when wrath hits |
| 22:04.49 | Slakah | iirc so can people with inscription |
| 22:04.59 | bleeter | Dreagar: for extra kicks for the engi teleports, also count the various debuffs applied ;) |
| 22:04.59 | Dewin | inscription is just a hearthstone isn't it? |
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| 22:05.15 | Slakah | I saw one which goes to area 52 |
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| 22:05.27 | ReAn | is omen working for 3.0.x? |
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| 22:05.37 | Dewin | Slakah: sure the person's hearth wasn't set there? |
| 22:05.46 | Dewin | or did it have a name different from scroll of recall? |
| 22:05.53 | Slakah | ahhh |
| 22:06.02 | Slakah | that would explain it |
| 22:06.09 | p3lim | is there a git update function? |
| 22:06.17 | alestane | Scrolls of Recall can also end up sending you somewhere else if you're trying to get by with cheap scrolls. |
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| 22:07.10 | sb | Tekkub: mhh - does it work for you? :) |
| 22:07.14 | bleeter | Unpredictable result #e : You discover the cow level |
| 22:07.19 | Tekkub | works fine for me |
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| 22:09.44 | Dewin | alestane: I've wanted to play with that 'feature', actually |
| 22:10.01 | Dewin | but I'm not an inscriptionist |
| 22:11.10 | alestane | The term is actually "scribe"...but yeah, that does put a damper on things. |
| 22:12.08 | Dewin | true. |
| 22:12.27 | Dewin | But by your logic, I should be a tanner not a leatherworker. |
| 22:14.03 | alestane | Actually, if you talk to the inscription trainer, the skill they teach you is "Journeyman Scribe", or at least it was at one point on Beta. |
| 22:14.27 | alestane | And leatherworker is a fair term for someone who makes leather goods. A tanner prepares hides for crafting. |
| 22:14.43 | Dewin | True. But since we do have recipes to cure hides |
| 22:15.12 | alestane | Which for simplicity's sake is considered part of leatherworking. |
| 22:15.43 | Dewin | I still think there should be a woodworking skill and an associated gathering skill. Craft bows, arrows, possibly some trinkets/etc, maces, staves. |
| 22:16.34 | alestane | I was severely disappointed by the promise of fist weapons in jewelcrafting. One friggin' recipe, and a level 27 item at that. |
| 22:16.43 | Dewin | though... an entire tree despawning because someone 'gathered' it would be kind of odd. |
| 22:18.06 | alestane | Yeah, I wanted that skill too, but adding a completely new gathering skill into the game would be awkward. |
| 22:19.07 | erikd | dewin: they could do it like AoC where it wouldn't make the tree disappear, you'd just have a certain number of hits on it before it was tapped out and uncollectable for awhile |
| 22:19.18 | Dewin | hmm that'd work |
| 22:19.29 | Dewin | Like you hover over it, it glows, and when it runs out it stops glowing |
| 22:19.35 | erikd | yeah |
| 22:20.13 | Tekkub | or just have a placeholder stump |
| 22:20.25 | erikd | anyone else level inscription and see that there're two glyphs called "Glyph of Lay on Hands"? |
| 22:20.34 | erikd | one major and one minor |
| 22:20.49 | erikd | but the major one the glyph is actually called Glyph of Divinity when you make it |
| 22:23.24 | Wikwocket | Anyone know a straightforward place in the UI or some mod to see basic UIDropDownMenu usage? |
| 22:23.49 | alestane | Interface options. |
| 22:25.47 | Wikwocket | hmmm ok, will check it out, thank you |
| 22:26.14 | |Jelly| | http://i38.tinypic.com/23m3d4m.jpg /emo |
| 22:28.08 | kneeki | |Jelly|: lol |
| 22:29.41 | Codex| | ace addon "dailies quest viewer" is disabling chat :/ |
| 22:30.22 | zenzelezz | can you use the target dummies to skill up weapon skills? |
| 22:30.23 | Codex| | sorry, thats daily quest VIEWER |
| 22:30.26 | zenzelezz | *training dummies |
| 22:30.47 | Gngsk | is there anyway to select no guide with tourguide? |
| 22:31.00 | Codex| | no, im wrong again- dailies quest tracker- my bad |
| 22:33.00 | kd3 | whee. medivh's dying |
| 22:33.05 | kd3 | wonder if it's all of ruin |
| 22:34.41 | Wikwocket | zenzelezz: pretty sure you can't |
| 22:35.03 | Wikwocket | Blizzard wants casters to WORK for that 350th point in Unarmed Skill |
| 22:35.03 | Codex| | my bugsack/buggrabber disappeared from fubar- how can i get it back? |
| 22:35.37 | zenzelezz | Wikwocket: I'm a warrior :-p Just hoped I wouldn't have to actually work for the points now that they fixed the Blasted Lands mobs |
| 22:35.54 | Gngsk | hmm, i disabled fubar and now my bugsack won't print errors to the chatframe |
| 22:37.02 | Gngsk | time to try tekerr I guess |
| 22:37.28 | Codex| | how can i get bugsacker back to fubar? the plugin isnt showing up |
| 22:38.10 | Gngsk | i had that too, and a lot of other issues with fubar |
| 22:38.10 | ZealotOnAStick | Get Broker2Fubar |
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| 22:38.28 | Gngsk | so I'm tryin' to reproduce my fubar setup with fortress atm |
| 22:38.30 | ZealotOnAStick | BugSack is no longer a fubar plugin, it's a LibDataBroker plugin |
| 22:38.32 | kd3 | crap |
| 22:38.34 | Codex| | and why, when i just updated to the latest quartz, none of the plugins showing up in game? |
| 22:38.35 | Codex| | oh |
| 22:38.36 | kd3 | I should not have logged out |
| 22:39.39 | Codex| | anyone having issues with the latest quartz and its plugins |
| 22:40.55 | kd3 | quartz working ok for me |
| 22:41.02 | kd3 | just make sure you've got updated ace libraries |
| 22:41.12 | Codex| | where can i update the ace libs from? |
| 22:41.20 | kd3 | just update all of your ace mods |
| 22:41.22 | linear` | are the party frames mana |
| 22:41.24 | linear` | suppose to update super fast |
| 22:41.26 | linear` | like the player frame |
| 22:41.31 | kd3 | yes |
| 22:41.34 | Codex| | kd3: using curse client? |
| 22:41.36 | Mark__ | nite all |
| 22:41.37 | kd3 | w/e |
| 22:42.16 | Codex| | in game, quartz is not showing any of its plugins |
| 22:42.42 | ZealotOnAStick | if you do /quartz and don't get the waterfallc onfig menu . . . |
| 22:42.47 | ZealotOnAStick | then something's not installed right. |
| 22:43.02 | kd3 | wow, haven't seen that in a while... |
| 22:43.04 | ZealotOnAStick | download a fresh copy of Quartz from wowace.com directly. |
| 22:43.06 | Codex| | i tried reinstalling it to see, while im reloading my client, any of u use prat? |
| 22:43.07 | kd3 | "A character with that name already exists" |
| 22:43.37 | Codex| | if i change my trade channel color from white, then log out and in, prats channel color remembering plugin wont remember the color |
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| 22:45.27 | linear` | kd3 did you say yes to my question? |
| 22:45.36 | kd3 | yes |
| 22:46.44 | bleeter | kd3: that 'exists' still pops up from time to time, seems very ultra rare these days though |
| 22:47.24 | linear` | it doesnt seem like |
| 22:47.27 | linear` | the party frame mana |
| 22:47.28 | linear` | ticks super fast |
| 22:47.32 | linear` | like the player frame |
| 22:47.37 | kd3 | only the player frame will |
| 22:47.39 | Codex| | mods that are red on the main menu mean- not 3.xx compatible? |
| 22:47.49 | linear` | yeah thats what iw as asking |
| 22:47.51 | kd3 | codex; no. that just means they're LoD |
| 22:47.55 | Codex| | oh ok |
| 22:47.59 | kd3 | there's a bug, they'll get fixed in 3.0.3 |
| 22:48.08 | linear` | ah k |
| 22:48.47 | Dewin | Hmm.. anybody hear any news about the lost mounts issue lately? I'm getting tired of forum crawling >.> |
| 22:49.15 | kd3 | put in a petition come tomorrow. it's going to have to resort to a specialist to get fixed at this point |
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| 22:49.53 | Codex| | dewin: ur screwed, as i last heard :O |
| 22:50.11 | Dewin | kd3: I guess I'll wait on my open-for-48+-hours-petition then ;) |
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| 22:50.34 | bleeter | I'm guessing specialist queues are gunna blow out to 10-14 days |
| 22:50.46 | ReAn | need an all black texture part of the wow interface, anyone know a path for one? |
| 22:50.57 | bleeter | at minimum... hopefully there's some wintrading gear removal too to make it like 28 days |
| 22:51.48 | Dewin | What annoys me is my ticket will be serviced "soon", and it's said that since last night (at least it's already escalated) |
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| 23:02.00 | Celoril | I have an addon which just gathers list of events in the calendar, as well as the contents of the guild bank (not the log) and saves it into a variable. It seems to have broken in 3.0.2 though. Anyone willing to fix it up for me? I'll pay you for your work. :) |
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| 23:03.08 | Kaso | There usually isnt a lot of people who go for paid work. |
| 23:03.26 | Dashkal | Curiosity: Has anybody put together an updated image gallery for blue posters? |
| 23:03.42 | Kaso | But if you ask about which problems you are having, we might be able to help you fix it |
| 23:03.46 | Celoril | Why not paid work? An hour of work could be a decent chunk of cash for someone.. :) |
| 23:04.22 | alestane | An hour of work isn't usually a whole lot of add-on repair. |
| 23:04.28 | Kaso | Well everyone has their own reasons, im just commenting on the trends i notice |
| 23:05.00 | Celoril | alestane: the addon is done, it just needs bugs fixed. It wouldn't need loads of time. It's a very simple addon, I'm just pressed for time |
| 23:05.25 | alestane | I've offered to do paid development work a few times, but only one person who was ever willing to pay me a decent hourly rate. One guy wanted me to build him a UI for about $20. |
| 23:05.48 | alestane | Celoril: Unfortunately, so am I, or I'd consider discussing this in greater depth. |
| 23:05.55 | Celoril | PM me a rate then.. :P |
| 23:05.58 | Celoril | Aww, ok. :) |
| 23:06.08 | erikd | building ui's are trivial, though. that's like $80/hr! |
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| 23:06.48 | alestane | erikd: Yeah, I don't think I'd be able to throw together something actually usable in 15 minutes. |
| 23:06.50 | Celoril | There's no UI needed.. it just executes a chunk of code when an event fires.. stores details in a variable. Nothing more. :) |
| 23:07.26 | alestane | If oyu haven't gotten it done by next week, we might be able to talk. |
| 23:07.34 | erikd | alestane: doesn't mean i don't hear it from clients on a daily basis (in regards to app development, not ui's) =/ |
| 23:08.10 | Eskana | anymac developers miss wowwatcher? |
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| 23:10.56 | Eskana | ho bout any mac developers |
| 23:10.59 | Codex| | i -greatly- miss wua :/ |
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| 23:11.20 | Eskana | ever try wowmatrix? |
| 23:11.26 | kd3 | ick |
| 23:11.29 | Codex| | yea- it didnt handle ace ones very well |
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| 23:11.32 | Eskana | really? |
| 23:11.32 | alestane | We don't speak of that thing here. |
| 23:11.39 | Eskana | ... |
| 23:11.39 | Codex| | i would use it, then run wua because it didnt like the latest ace ones |
| 23:11.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, we do. And then we wish it would die. |
| 23:11.54 | Eskana | lol |
| 23:12.04 | Codex| | ScytheBlade1: which one do u use? not curse, do u? |
| 23:12.21 | alestane | Among other things, WoWMatrix's respect for copyright and host terms of use id dubious at BEST. |
| 23:12.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Codex|: I click the "Download" button on the relevant sites. |
| 23:12.33 | Codex| | :) |
| 23:13.15 | ScytheBlade1 | I run ~30 addons. Contrary to popular belief, a program that manages addons for you is not required. |
| 23:13.53 | Eskana | any mac developers here? |
| 23:14.14 | Thunder_Child | i dont understand that word....mac... |
| 23:14.28 | Eskana | thats ok |
| 23:14.39 | Eskana | we understand |
| 23:14.59 | alestane | Eskana: I use a Mac, but right now I only develop for WoW. Why? |
| 23:14.59 | Codex| | alestane: which updater do u use? |
| 23:15.09 | alestane | The same one SBO does. |
| 23:15.33 | alestane | Since at least have of the mods I run are ones I wrote, I don't spend a lot of time downloading updates. |
| 23:15.41 | alestane | s/have/half/ |
| 23:15.43 | Dashkal | Loss of the updater I favoured led me to just purge my UI. Down to something like 8 mods |
| 23:15.58 | Codex| | im still at like, 50-60 |
| 23:16.11 | Dashkal | I was sitting at about 25 mods and nearly a hundred plus folders |
| 23:16.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Consider slimming down? I sincerly doubt you need that many |
| 23:16.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Err |
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| 23:16.31 | ScytheBlade1 | How many of those are Ace2 libraries? |
| 23:16.31 | Dashkal | "nearly a hundred plus"... I need better drugs... |
| 23:17.32 | Lunessa | Mmm... new trackball, factory fresh. |
| 23:17.43 | Codex| | alestane: whose SBO? |
| 23:17.52 | alestane | ScytheBlade1. |
| 23:17.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Codex|: me |
| 23:17.56 | Codex| | oh, scythe blade one? |
| 23:18.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Codex|: or, he's saying "he downloads the ones he needs manually as needed" |
| 23:18.08 | Dashkal | The only catch with updating my hand is it pretty much mandates running embedded (I'm _not_ gonna handle deps myself) |
| 23:18.30 | kd3 | running embedded is the preferred option now, isn't it? |
| 23:18.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Dashkal: Good thing that Ace3 was designed to run embedded, and you can get the entire Ace2 in a single addon |
| 23:18.36 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: that's the goal |
| 23:18.46 | kd3 | especially with the LoD+OptDep bug in 3.0.2... |
| 23:19.14 | mikma | do i need to do something else than generate zip in wowi svn to publish it? :D |
| 23:19.22 | Dashkal | ScytheBlade1: Ace3 itself is the least of my worries. Given how many use it it won't update more than absolutely necessary |
| 23:19.44 | Dashkal | Embedding bothers me more because you get the odd time where two mods have different versions and they manage to conflict |
| 23:19.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Honestly? I've *never* had that problem |
| 23:20.08 | ScytheBlade1 | The only time I ever had with Ace2 libs was when tried to run dis-embedded |
| 23:20.09 | Dashkal | It hit me only twice that I can remember. Took a good while to track it down |
| 23:20.19 | Dashkal | Then I started using an updater and the issue went away :p |
| 23:20.21 | ScytheBlade1 | That caused me more headaches and grief than I ever care to mess with |
| 23:21.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, in any case, it's a good thing that pulling the latest versions straight off of SVN is gone. Something tells me that even if you had problems in the past, you'll have fewer in the future. |
| 23:21.23 | Dashkal | absolutely |
| 23:21.46 | Dashkal | I'm more happy that there will actually _be_ release versions. the svn lead to lazy release mentality |
| 23:22.28 | ScytheBlade1 | I'll run a few addons from SVN checkouts, but in almost every case there I'll be bugging the author with bugfixes and dealing with the fact that crap may be broke :P |
| 23:23.17 | Dashkal | I'll use repo versions only when I'm helping the author test new things. For everything else I'll wait for a release. Stable > new features |
| 23:23.23 | p3lim | doing kara with 1 healer 1 tank |
| 23:23.41 | p3lim | curator died before the first evo |
| 23:23.44 | Dashkal | One healer I've seen. One tank is a pain (entirely doable I know, but ushers suck) |
| 23:24.03 | p3lim | pala tank |
| 23:24.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Shadow priests are the answer there |
| 23:24.14 | p3lim | funny thing is that none of us are geared above t4/badge gear |
| 23:24.14 | Dashkal | Doesn't make you immune to the threat drop of frost tomb |
| 23:24.22 | p3lim | yes, got a spriest |
| 23:24.34 | p3lim | we have 3 feral druids in the same run :p |
| 23:24.40 | p3lim | so we can backup tank on those mobs |
| 23:24.45 | Dashkal | ahh, that works then. |
| 23:24.57 | p3lim | 6 druids total |
| 23:25.05 | p3lim | 1 resto, 3 feral, 2 boomkin :p |
| 23:25.13 | Dashkal | I still wanna do a 10 druid run :p |
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| 23:26.16 | p3lim | netherspite just died |
| 23:26.19 | p3lim | before the first fade |
| 23:26.28 | Lopeppeppy | Sexy |
| 23:26.38 | Dashkal | niiice |
| 23:28.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, how would one make dynamically sized FauxScrollingFrames? (not with the blizz template) |
| 23:29.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Is the idea to just make a "large" number of rows, large enough that no matter the size you'll never run out? |
| 23:32.07 | ReAn | ScytheBlade1: Implement a create-on-demand system similar to how C Vectors operate |
| 23:32.16 | ZealotOnAStick | Anyone have any suggestions for a warlock addon just to handle summoning messages - ritual of summon, ritual of souls? DemonDaemon doesn't have the messages in it yet. |
| 23:32.19 | p3lim | we just failed chest tho :p |
| 23:32.21 | p3lim | chess* |
| 23:32.35 | p3lim | noone remembered to pick a healer, king went down fast |
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| 23:32.50 | alestane | ZealotOnAStick: What kind of messages? |
| 23:32.55 | Lopeppeppy | Ooops, p3lim. |
| 23:32.58 | ScytheBlade1 | ReAn: that sounds painful |
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| 23:33.20 | ReAn | not really |
| 23:33.27 | Sixen | =x |
| 23:33.30 | ReAn | basically |
| 23:33.31 | ZealotOnAStick | ShardAce (which is essentially the precursor to DemonDaemon, same author) would say like "Preparing to summon soandso, please click the portal" when you cast Ritual of Summoning |
| 23:33.39 | ReAn | have like 5 rows |
| 23:33.43 | ReAn | and if you ever need 6 rows |
| 23:33.48 | ReAn | double the number of rows you have |
| 23:33.54 | alestane | ZealotOnAStick: I just used a macro for that. |
| 23:34.03 | Codex| | anyone ever hear the problem where the sound effects in wow are looping over and over |
| 23:34.05 | ZealotOnAStick | I used to use a macro before I got ShardAce. |
| 23:34.12 | ReAn | so you'll have 10 rows (4 hidden), until you resize over 10, then you make 10 more |
| 23:34.17 | ReAn | etc... and so on |
| 23:34.19 | ZealotOnAStick | but the old macro I used to use doesn't fit in the current macro size limit. |
| 23:34.47 | ScytheBlade1 | hmm |
| 23:34.55 | alestane | Get MacroTalk and it gets nice and short. |
| 23:35.16 | Celoril | Are there any addons which you guys would recommend for addon developing? Something that can show the contents of an array for example? |
| 23:35.19 | Codex| | im still using good old supermacro |
| 23:35.53 | alestane | Celoril: DevTools and LuaSlinger are useful for developing. |
| 23:36.27 | ScytheBlade1 | alestane: LuaSlinger? |
| 23:36.55 | alestane | I think it was in Cogwheel's list of development addons months ago. |
| 23:37.07 | ScytheBlade1 | hmm |
| 23:37.26 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 23:37.27 | ScytheBlade1 | "Hi folks, I'm no longer developing LuaSlinger." |
| 23:37.34 | alestane | <cog|work>My wow Dev environment always includes DevTools, LuaSlinger, MonoLua, ForAllIndentsAndPurposes, and ImprovedErrorFrame |
| 23:39.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Hehe. Just had this conversation with my friend: http://wowi.pastey.net/98504 |
| 23:41.05 | WobWork | sbo: "Loved America"? |
| 23:41.16 | ScytheBlade1 | WobWork: I don't know either |
| 23:42.00 | p3lim | lol |
| 23:42.11 | p3lim | 3,3k shred in my t4 tanking gear on a mob right before prince |
| 23:42.21 | p3lim | bear spec too |
| 23:42.34 | Dashkal | p3lim: give spec... I have _got_ to be doing something wrong here |
| 23:42.54 | p3lim | sec |
| 23:43.14 | Dashkal | the prot warrior tank beat me. Fine except I was dead last DPS above only healers |
| 23:43.38 | ReAn | Dashkal: what class/spec? |
| 23:43.44 | p3lim | what i use now: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0ZxGGsfrzceRc0zho0E |
| 23:43.51 | Dashkal | ReAn: I'm a feral druid vs a prot war |
| 23:44.15 | ReAn | yea feral druids are so crap for dps atm |
| 23:44.21 | Dashkal | p3lim: ok, now I _know_ I was on crack. Didn't realize naturalist was possible with berserk |
| 23:44.35 | Dashkal | that'll improve things massively right there |
| 23:45.17 | ReAn | wpw |
| 23:45.22 | ReAn | berserk over omen of clarity? |
| 23:45.25 | Dashkal | move protector into predatory and I'm golden |
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| 23:46.00 | Dashkal | couple other minor things. danke |
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| 23:46.17 | Dashkal | berserk when hit every cooldown is quite a bit of DPS |
| 23:46.23 | Dashkal | It'll compete |
| 23:46.41 | ReAn | with free shreds? |
| 23:46.47 | p3lim | prince down in 1min28sec |
| 23:47.11 | Dashkal | you pretty much have free shreds with berserk up (21 energy is one sec, so is your gcd) |
| 23:47.32 | Dashkal | only with berserk you can time it for the best moment |
| 23:47.48 | ReAn | i guess... |
| 23:47.57 | ReAn | i never was a big fan of berserk |
| 23:47.59 | Dashkal | Tis why I say it competes. I don't consider it a clear winner |
| 23:48.13 | ReAn | im typically tanking mostly myself tho |
| 23:48.25 | Dashkal | For tanking it's hands down better |
| 23:48.32 | Dashkal | Tripple cooldown-less mangles is just sex |
| 23:48.53 | ReAn | *shrug* |
| 23:49.04 | ReAn | not my main toon, dont put much care/effort into it |
| 23:49.28 | Dashkal | fair enough. I just wanted to get off the bottom of the DPS meter. I knew I had farked up with my spec but didn't realize how |
| 23:49.32 | Dashkal | naturalist is mandatory |
| 23:51.11 | kd3 | whee |
| 23:51.15 | kd3 | "World server is down" |
| 23:51.18 | kd3 | hai2u beta |
| 23:52.04 | elite3vil | hai2u beta on live |
| 23:52.06 | elite3vil | lol. |
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| 23:59.00 | p3lim | ReAn: yes, berserk over OoC, gonna get it at lvl 71 anyways |
| 23:59.09 | p3lim | but for now, berserk is op |
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