| 00:00.17 | p3lim | know |
| 00:00.17 | p3lim | gonna fix that |
| 00:00.17 | Iriel | do local _, class = UnitClass("player"); if (class ~= "HUNTER") etc.... |
| 00:00.22 | p3lim | yep |
| 00:00.31 | p3lim | but the events etc, any bloat? |
| 00:00.40 | Iriel | Though if that's a whole file, then it probably doesn't hurt 8-) |
| 00:01.01 | Kaso | we were just talking about esoteric pc cooling and someone mentioned a vacuum |
| 00:01.04 | Iriel | Why all the registering and unregistering? |
| 00:01.18 | p3lim | in case the player moves |
| 00:01.21 | Kaso | Cooling/heating in vacuums is what makes making satellites hard |
| 00:01.36 | p3lim | ive barely tested it |
| 00:01.38 | Wobin | Iriel: Well the original reason for the vacuum, was to prevent dust buildup =P |
| 00:01.53 | p3lim | i used all that registering/unregistering for the aimed shot support (pre-3.0) |
| 00:01.55 | Wobin | cooling was left as an exercise for the reader =P |
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| 00:02.09 | Kaso | hah |
| 00:02.27 | Shirik | oh nice, they even have a module to stop checkstyle from analyzing the auto-generated parts |
| 00:02.41 | p3lim | Iriel: http://svn.wowinterface.com/filedetails.php?repname=oUF_AutoShot&path=%2Ftrunk%2FoUF_AutoShot%2FoUF_AutoShot.lua |
| 00:02.52 | Wobin | hm www.cityofember.com looks to be an interesting movie |
| 00:03.00 | Wobin | fallout reflections =) |
| 00:03.06 | Wobin | s/f/F/ |
| 00:03.12 | Iriel | Wobin: I've liked the trailer for a while, haven't seen any reviews yet tho |
| 00:03.35 | p3lim | if you have any tips for me i would love it :) |
| 00:03.50 | Wobin | Is that Bill Murray as the mayor? |
| 00:03.56 | Iriel | p3lim: I'm not sure if unregistering STOP_AUTOREPEAT_SPELL is a good idea |
| 00:04.01 | Iriel | Wobin: Yes |
| 00:04.17 | Wobin | hehe cool =) |
| 00:04.49 | Iriel | p3lim: It looks like an attempt to 'reduce overhead' but i'm not sure how the overhead of removing and re-adding an event registration compares to just having a flag and ignoring the event when you dont want it |
| 00:05.52 | Iriel | Also, if you really do care about performance then autoshot.XXX should all be direct locals |
| 00:06.06 | Iriel | i.e. autoshotAuto, autoshotCurrent, etc |
| 00:06.09 | p3lim | too bad STOP/START_AUTOREPEAT_SPELL doesnt have a unit arg |
| 00:06.26 | p3lim | yeah ive changed that in my 3.0 update (the pastey) |
| 00:06.28 | Iriel | Do they fire for other people? |
| 00:06.40 | p3lim | what do you mean? |
| 00:06.44 | Iriel | I thought those were player only, but I could be mistaken |
| 00:06.50 | p3lim | oh.. |
| 00:06.54 | Wobin | Iriel: hm, I might see if I can get the books and read them |
| 00:07.03 | p3lim | if so that would be great |
| 00:07.07 | Wobin | Trilogy by Jean DuPrau |
| 00:07.16 | Wobin | whups, four book series |
| 00:07.21 | Iriel | Wobin: I get the impression it's a kids movie, but if it's a GOOD kid's movie then yay |
| 00:07.26 | Wobin | yeah =) |
| 00:08.25 | End | I told you it was annoying |
| 00:08.33 | End | you know what you could do? |
| 00:08.35 | End | just make it paged |
| 00:08.39 | End | like the spellbook |
| 00:08.44 | Lunessa | Which movie? |
| 00:08.45 | Shirik | NightHawkTheSane: |
| 00:08.47 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, that's a concept. |
| 00:08.47 | Shirik | ~fauxscrollframe |
| 00:08.48 | purl | fauxscrollframe is probably one of the first Lua/XML systems written by Blizzard for the WoW user interface. Its learning curve resembles an inverted L, and Zootfizzle hates it. Along with cogs, it is in the top five on his "dead to me" list. |
| 00:09.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: yeah, seen it. i really probably should have known better. |
| 00:09.14 | Shirik | In all honesty |
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| 00:09.26 | Shirik | I have never seen a single person that has ever said "You know, I really enjoy using FauxScrollFrame" |
| 00:09.31 | Wobin | Lunessa: City Of Ember |
| 00:09.40 | Lunessa | Do Want. |
| 00:09.40 | |Jelly| | wow |
| 00:09.50 | |Jelly| | someone just eraged and quoted dirty harry |
| 00:09.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: is that because it sucks? or because it REALLY sucks? |
| 00:09.58 | Shirik | yes |
| 00:10.05 | Wobin | |Jelly|: class =) |
| 00:10.18 | End | I was going to make a joke and say I enjoy it, but I can't, I really can't |
| 00:10.27 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10972023201&sid=1&pageNo=3 |
| 00:10.35 | NightHawkTheSane | End: yeah, i mean i'm all for bad jokes, but that's too far. ) |
| 00:10.37 | NightHawkTheSane | :) |
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| 00:11.14 | Wobin | I wonder how different WoW's FSF is to WAR's list thingie |
| 00:12.06 | Iriel | FSF is a decent attempt to create some re-usable code for an oft-repeated WoW idiom |
| 00:12.25 | End | wow I'm bad |
| 00:12.28 | End | I just drowned |
| 00:12.37 | Iriel | But it's unnecessarily convoluted IMHO, and could benefit from some dynamic frame creation and table love |
| 00:12.42 | End | you know, I have a spell for that too :( |
| 00:12.48 | Shirik | welcome back |
| 00:12.48 | Seerah | eek! |
| 00:12.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Seerah: mcdonalds? ew. :P |
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| 00:13.05 | Iriel | I have my own faux scroll frame lib these days (but it's got some quirks of its own) |
| 00:13.18 | Shirik | Something Iriel made has quirks? |
| 00:13.20 | Shirik | impossible |
| 00:13.31 | End | I thought Iriel was perfect. :( |
| 00:13.37 | Iriel | Shirik: You want to tell me SecureStateHeaders dont have quirks? 8-) |
| 00:13.43 | Shirik | hahaha |
| 00:13.49 | Lunessa | Am I the only one who thought Seerah looked like a gnome in the UI picture? |
| 00:13.55 | Seerah | lol |
| 00:13.56 | End | NightHawkTheSane: just do it the spellbook way. gogo! |
| 00:13.59 | kd3 | lol |
| 00:14.07 | Shirik | Seerah's proud of her gnomish heritage I think |
| 00:14.08 | kd3 | looking for comments on the "it's patch day!" sticky |
| 00:14.10 | NightHawkTheSane | End: im giving that some serious consideration, actually. |
| 00:14.21 | Iriel | NightHawkTheSane: ANd you dont want to use a regular scroll frame? |
| 00:14.23 | |Yssaril| | ghost wolf form can only be used out of combat right? |
| 00:14.25 | NightHawkTheSane | End: either that, or the way Tekkub handles scrolling in Ampere. |
| 00:14.28 | Lunessa | kd3 it's solid |
| 00:14.42 | NightHawkTheSane | |Yssaril|: no, it can be used in combat. |
| 00:14.42 | Iriel | NightHawkTheSane: (Since those have some size limitations, and slow down rendering when visible) |
| 00:14.46 | Lunessa | |Yssaril|: No, it can be done in combat |
| 00:15.01 | |Yssaril| | thanks |
| 00:15.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Iriel: honestly, (and this is going to sound stupid), but looking at examples and wiki info for both, I thought the FauxScrollFrame would be easier. >< |
| 00:17.25 | NightHawkTheSane | i was kinda confused on the scrollframe/scrollframechild thing, actually. And on how dynamic that can be. As I need to handle a (theoretically) arbitrary number of checkboxes |
| 00:17.33 | p3lim | Iriel: better? http://pastey.net/98201 |
| 00:17.43 | p3lim | though the bar itself seems to clip now |
| 00:17.55 | p3lim | its not as smooth as with the registering/unregistering |
| 00:18.02 | End | NightHawkTheSane: scrollframe is a container |
| 00:18.08 | End | the child moves around inside the container |
| 00:18.30 | End | (and is clipped by it) |
| 00:18.40 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i kinda got that. |
| 00:18.58 | Bibi` | so huh. |
| 00:19.02 | Bibi` | 3.0.2 tomorrow, right ? |
| 00:19.06 | End | so it appears |
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| 00:19.10 | Iriel | p3lim: I wasn't suggesting you eliminate the stop/start, just that you didn't keep un and reregistering the stop event |
| 00:19.24 | End | Aren't you supposed be MY source for that though? |
| 00:19.30 | Iriel | NightHawkTheSane: Ah, if the list is potentially unbounded then FSS if the way to go |
| 00:19.33 | Bibi` | I was expecting some kind of public confirmation |
| 00:19.35 | End | or are you looking for cairenn? :P |
| 00:19.36 | Bibi` | I'm like, 95% sure |
| 00:19.39 | p3lim | hm |
| 00:19.52 | Bibi` | but 95% isn't enough for the front page |
| 00:19.55 | p3lim | using if checks, but check for what? |
| 00:19.57 | bleeter | lol https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7115 I could almost be bothered mangling this addon to work on Blizz forums |
| 00:20.15 | Shirik | Bibi, they just felt like bringing the servers down for 12 hours to make us angry |
| 00:20.20 | Iriel | NightHawkTheSane: FSF isn't THAT hard to use once you figure out what all the arguments mean |
| 00:20.20 | End | Blizzard has been careful not to say it outright, but they keep dropping heavy hints\ |
| 00:20.20 | Shirik | no patch |
| 00:20.29 | End | lol, Shirik |
| 00:20.58 | |Jelly| | ~hug Iriel |
| 00:20.59 | purl | ACTION jumps into Iriel's lap and huggles and *hugs* Iriel |
| 00:20.59 | bleeter | cya Iriel |
| 00:22.39 | NightHawkTheSane | you know, wowcompares needs line numbers >< |
| 00:22.47 | End | it had line numbers |
| 00:22.51 | End | once upon a time |
| 00:23.00 | NightHawkTheSane | and it doesn't now why? >.> |
| 00:23.07 | Tekkub | to piss you off |
| 00:23.15 | NeoTron | cookie monster sneaked by and ate them all |
| 00:26.11 | Seerah | I like cookies |
| 00:26.27 | Seerah | *nom* *nom* *nom* |
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| 00:27.15 | Seerah | nooooooo!!!!!! |
| 00:27.21 | Shirik | it's ok I save one for you |
| 00:27.27 | Seerah | okay |
| 00:28.26 | Sixen | Just hide them on a tall shelf. |
| 00:28.30 | Sixen | ;), <3. |
| 00:28.31 | Shirik | aww that's mean |
| 00:28.46 | Shirik | I'm not mean :( |
| 00:28.48 | Sixen | I kid, I kid... |
| 00:29.00 | Sixen | I didn't find out that was Seerah until *after* the con.. |
| 00:29.04 | Lunessa | So, here's your WTF IT LOL chuckle for the day. I just got a new desktop issued to me at work. It's running Vista Enterprise. However, I'm an Exchange Admin and the Exchange Tools needed won't run under Vista properly... So I run them now from a virtualized XP install on my iMac. |
| 00:29.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh, nice |
| 00:32.47 | Kaso | why not virtualise xp from the vista pc |
| 00:33.12 | |Jelly| | I wonder if Zoot realizes he just completely negated the reasoning behind the Suggestions Forum. |
| 00:33.22 | ScytheBlade1 | |Jelly|: ? |
| 00:33.36 | |Jelly| | "Finally, thank you for posting your suggestion here." |
| 00:34.12 | NightHawkTheSane | eh? |
| 00:43.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Syzgyn: ping |
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| 00:52.13 | End | I have 48 soul shards... |
| 00:52.18 | End | wonder if its enough |
| 00:52.28 | NightHawkTheSane | no |
| 00:54.06 | Syzgyn | NightHawkTheSane: pong |
| 00:54.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Syzgyn: mousover tooltips on companions in petlistplus would be neat |
| 00:55.40 | Syzgyn | Does the default UI do that? |
| 00:55.50 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 00:56.02 | NightHawkTheSane | at least i'm 90% sure |
| 00:56.07 | Syzgyn | Kinda suprised I forgot it then |
| 01:01.32 | NightHawkTheSane | i vastly dislike multiboxers >.> |
| 01:02.09 | Syzgyn | lol |
| 01:02.22 | Syzgyn | Meh, you split them up and they go down fast |
| 01:02.36 | NightHawkTheSane | im not even talking about pvp :p |
| 01:05.58 | Lunessa | YAR! http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10972144177&sid=1 |
| 01:09.30 | kd3 | rofl |
| 01:10.18 | Wobin | ahaha |
| 01:11.14 | Tem | Iriel, easy to use or not, FSF is evil |
| 01:11.29 | Lunessa | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10871018107&sid=1&pageNo=9#174 - *headdesk* |
| 01:12.07 | NightHawkTheSane | actually, i think i finally got the hang of FSF >.> |
| 01:12.52 | Wobin | Time to change your nick |
| 01:12.55 | Wobin | to the Insane |
| 01:13.09 | Wobin | For you have gazed into the abyss |
| 01:13.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: that kinda made me cry, i hate you |
| 01:14.15 | Lunessa | It's ok, lots of people hate me. You'll have to take a number. |
| 01:18.34 | Tekkub | FSF isn't evil |
| 01:18.37 | Tekkub | Tem fails |
| 01:18.52 | Tem | FSF is EVIL |
| 01:18.54 | Tem | EVIL |
| 01:19.03 | Tekkub | XML is EVIL |
| 01:19.10 | Tekkub | FSF is just misunderstood |
| 01:19.16 | Yssaril | Tekkub: is it possible with to push comits and tags at the same time with git? |
| 01:19.24 | Shirik | hey ScytheBlade1 |
| 01:19.31 | Tekkub | Yssaril, git push --tags |
| 01:19.42 | ScytheBlade1 | ? |
| 01:19.44 | Shirik | nevcairiel: ping |
| 01:20.10 | Shirik | For both of you: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10971929880&postId=111616419384&sid=1#8 |
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| 01:20.30 | ScytheBlade1 | CALLED IT |
| 01:20.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Xinhuan: ^ |
| 01:21.03 | |Yssaril| | Tekkub: when i do that and the git push it pushes again (it does not say already up to date) |
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| 01:22.29 | Shirik | that's never going to get old |
| 01:22.36 | NightHawkTheSane | agreed |
| 01:22.59 | Shirik | kd3's like "screw this" |
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| 01:23.30 | kd3 | wtb a non-broken connection |
| 01:23.49 | NightHawkTheSane | tell me about it >< |
| 01:24.31 | Tekkub | * kd3 has quit (Read error: 104 (Erection reset by beer)) |
| 01:24.31 | Tekkub | lol |
| 01:24.31 | NightHawkTheSane | hha |
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| 01:24.44 | Shirik | ok maybe it could get a little bit old |
| 01:24.58 | Tekkub | once he's stabalized it'll be better |
| 01:25.07 | NightHawkTheSane | kd3, stable? heh |
| 01:25.09 | Tekkub | maybe some way to throttle it? stupid bot |
| 01:25.18 | schnoggo | nooooooooo - server |
| 01:25.25 | schnoggo | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:25.31 | Tekkub | the hole |
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| 01:36.22 | Shirik | I blame Iriel |
| 01:36.55 | Iriel | Usually wise |
| 01:37.36 | Shirik | Iriel: Do you really put spaces in your casts? |
| 01:37.45 | Iriel | Yes |
| 01:37.52 | Shirik | seems so ugly >< |
| 01:37.53 | ckknight | how's he do it? |
| 01:37.58 | Iriel | As I said yesterday, it makes other people's code much more readable (or mine, from ages past) |
| 01:38.10 | Iriel | of course, if you have that many casts to begin with you might be doing something wrong |
| 01:38.24 | Shirik | actually it was picking up auto-generated code which I've since ignored |
| 01:38.29 | Shirik | still it confused me |
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| 01:39.19 | Shirik | 0 warnings now though! |
| 01:40.13 | Shirik | the only other thing it didn't like about my code off-the-bat was my lack of @version tags |
| 01:42.05 | Lunessa | ... the person bitching most vociferously about UI set up being a pain... is 5-boxing. *headdesk* |
| 01:42.33 | kd3 | kuso. lod+optdep is still broken? |
| 01:42.37 | Shirik | kd3... |
| 01:42.53 | Shirik | I literally just linked >< |
| 01:42.54 | Shirik | (21:20:10) (@Shirik) For both of you: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10971929880&postId=111616419384&sid=1#8 |
| 01:43.15 | Shirik | I guess your net is bad so you might have missed it :) |
| 01:43.53 | Shirik | oh but I guess that won't be available tomorrow |
| 01:44.09 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: "some addons be broke. wait." |
| 01:44.15 | Shirik | ^ |
| 01:44.59 | Lunessa | So, I'm looking again at the labeled group photo... and I notice that geeks, by and large, wear jeans and black/blue t-shirts. |
| 01:45.29 | Shirik | got a link again? |
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| 01:45.39 | Lunessa | http://www.thunder-child.net/Misc/Blizzcon2008UIGroupLabeled.jpg |
| 01:45.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: i really have no idea what you mean |
| 01:45.50 | Shirik | well black is obvious |
| 01:45.51 | Corrodias | Lunessa: did he fix the labels yet? |
| 01:45.56 | Tekkub | NEED MORE PIX |
| 01:46.00 | Shirik | the best shirts are black with geeky white text |
| 01:46.12 | Lunessa | *mental checklist shows that I too have lots of black t-shirts* |
| 01:46.14 | Shirik | like "Resistance is futile (Unless < 1 ohm)" |
| 01:46.16 | Shirik | er |
| 01:46.19 | Shirik | s/Unless/if/ |
| 01:46.25 | NightHawkTheSane | my not-black/blue shirt collection has actually grown, lately |
| 01:46.36 | NightHawkTheSane | largely thanks to woot >.> |
| 01:46.42 | Lunessa | "Insufficient Memory" |
| 01:46.43 | Shirik | But... most of those black and blue shirts are mmoi shirts, lol :) |
| 01:46.43 | kd3 | lol |
| 01:46.44 | Tekkub | woot's shirts... suck |
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| 01:46.53 | Shirik | actually maybe a little less than half |
| 01:46.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub: some are pretty good |
| 01:46.55 | Shirik | so not most |
| 01:47.15 | Tekkub | int he past months watching woot, I've bought one shirt |
| 01:47.18 | kd3 | I'm just glad I got labeled in this year's pic |
| 01:47.38 | Tekkub | we need real nameplates on the damn group pic |
| 01:47.43 | Shirik | real? |
| 01:47.45 | Tekkub | so people will know who Roh is |
| 01:47.53 | Tekkub | yes, real |
| 01:47.58 | Shirik | what do you mean |
| 01:48.02 | Tekkub | where's the raw one? |
| 01:48.10 | |pez| | Shirik: real ones you can hold up? :P |
| 01:49.39 | Tekkub | we need to get Seerah some pink gnome ponytails for next year |
| 01:49.39 | NightHawkTheSane | "You are now neutral with Timbermaw Hold" |
| 01:49.53 | Seerah | GREEN! |
| 01:50.12 | Shirik | hahaha |
| 01:50.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub: nothing a few rubber bands and hair die can't fix >.> |
| 01:50.14 | Shirik | I would love to see that |
| 01:50.18 | kd3 | rofl |
| 01:50.26 | Shirik | I would color my hair if you would too |
| 01:50.32 | Seerah | you didn't see my Pooh ears, tek and shirik |
| 01:50.38 | Seerah | I got them last night at disney :) |
| 01:50.46 | Tekkub | screw that |
| 01:50.48 | Seerah | but you'll have to wait for a picture from Esamynn or Kaelten |
| 01:51.05 | Tekkub | git you ponytails and Zooty can have a weird gnome moustache |
| 01:51.10 | Tekkub | and then you two can do the dances |
| 01:51.22 | Shirik | hell |
| 01:51.29 | Shirik | I would dress up as a BE if you do that |
| 01:51.38 | Seerah | rofl |
| 01:51.42 | Seerah | female or male? |
| 01:51.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Seerah: there's a difference? |
| 01:51.51 | Tekkub | the hair |
| 01:51.52 | kd3 | raaah! copy the vids off of my camera faster, damn you! |
| 01:51.54 | Seerah | hehe |
| 01:52.00 | Shirik | well it's very depressing to say that I wouldn't be the first if I went female |
| 01:52.11 | kd3 | o_O |
| 01:52.14 | Shirik | did you see the costume contest? |
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| 01:52.25 | Shirik | there are some images I won't soon forget |
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| 01:52.42 | Lunessa | That bad? |
| 01:52.54 | Seerah | shirik's gonna be dreaming about the draenei chick |
| 01:53.06 | Shirik | I must say there were some people there that wore less than what you would see on the beach |
| 01:53.15 | Shirik | sadly, I would have preferred not to see the male version of that |
| 01:53.18 | Tekkub | the boomkin was great |
| 01:53.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: you know, after going to ACen, I really doubt anything at blizzcon could shock me. |
| 01:54.29 | Tekkub | where's the damn unlabeled pic... |
| 01:54.37 | Iriel | Tekkub: My thread on the UI forum |
| 01:54.45 | Corrodias | draenei chick? :d |
| 01:54.46 | Shirik | wait what? |
| 01:54.49 | Shirik | UI forum has pics? |
| 01:54.53 | Lunessa | Heh... Any Animae Con will burn out the centers of your brain which are designed to be shocked by strange apparel. |
| 01:55.00 | Iriel | Shirik: It has a link to a pic |
| 01:55.01 | Tekkub | wait, people read the UI forum? |
| 01:55.07 | Tekkub | (beside THE thread) |
| 01:55.19 | Lunessa | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10971913067&sid=1 |
| 01:55.55 | Tekkub | and what's Cog's Mount's name? |
| 01:57.00 | Corrodias | i want pictures of draenei girl(s) ._. |
| 01:57.07 | Lunessa | I just call her "Mrs. Cog" |
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| 02:00.31 | Lunessa | go go shiibot |
| 02:00.43 | Shirik | to wait or not to wait |
| 02:01.01 | Shirik | that was actually somewhat anticlimatic |
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| 02:02.15 | Keias | lol |
| 02:02.23 | Shirik | I don't really want to lock it to be honest |
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| 02:02.31 | Shirik | I'm going to go look at the logs instead |
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| 02:03.01 | ZorbaTHut | worst spam flood ever |
| 02:03.04 | widgertick | Looks like Slouken and Zootfizzle accidentally hurt someone's feelings |
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| 02:03.41 | Wobin | heavens to betsy! |
| 02:03.43 | widgertick | Or terrified them |
| 02:03.45 | widgertick | Or something |
| 02:03.47 | Wobin | link? |
| 02:04.03 | widgertick | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10972144177&sid=1 |
| 02:04.39 | Wobin | widgertick: looks like he missed the joke =P |
| 02:04.47 | Iriel | I wonder if they just didn't get Zoot's joke? |
| 02:04.54 | Shirik | I think that's what it was, Iriel |
| 02:04.59 | Corrodias | seems that way |
| 02:05.07 | Wobin | it was a great joke =) |
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| 02:05.18 | Shirik | hmmmm I know how to deal with this |
| 02:05.21 | Shirik | now the question is how quickly I can code |
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| 02:05.25 | Shirik | but for the time being |
| 02:05.30 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+rRf #shiibot] by Shirik |
| 02:08.48 | ZorbaTHut | for someone who's never completed a single quest with a death knight, I've spent quite a surprising amount of time logged in as one |
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| 02:09.04 | ZorbaTHut | 9 hours, 7 minutes, zero death knight quests completed. that's sort of impressive. |
| 02:09.23 | morkii | i hate you. |
| 02:09.32 | Lunessa | ... http://www.ripten.com/2008/10/10/wow-whore-has-36-accounts-raids-by-himself/ |
| 02:09.37 | morkii | they won't give me a key to try one |
| 02:11.19 | Wobin | "When Wrath of the Lich King is released, I plan to be at the store when it opens and will purchase 36 copies of it. With tax, it should be about $1500 for all of them. " |
| 02:11.31 | ZorbaTHut | I'm rather amazed that he can run them all in any useful fashion |
| 02:11.39 | Wobin | "I'm sorry sir, but you can't get your copy of WotLK, that fellow before you just bought out the store..." |
| 02:11.47 | Wobin | *cue Brad Lynching* |
| 02:11.49 | Corrodias | i don't suppose Blizzard is planning to put Wrath on a digital distribution channel? |
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| 02:12.07 | Corrodias | like their own store |
| 02:12.38 | NightHawkTheSane | If i have a table that has non-sequential integer indices, is it at all possible for me to easily access the Nth element (eg, 3rd element, even if it's index is not 3?) |
| 02:12.44 | Shirik | lua> return math.huge |
| 02:12.45 | lua_bot | Shirik: inf |
| 02:13.04 | Lunessa | ~failrik |
| 02:13.04 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 02:13.09 | Shirik | !reload |
| 02:13.10 | Shiibot | AI routines & configuration reloaded |
| 02:13.11 | Shirik | that should do it |
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| 02:13.15 | Wobin | well... that's huge |
| 02:13.29 | Arrowmaster | NightHawkTheSane: no, theres no order at all to hash tables |
| 02:13.43 | Arrowmaster | you would have to use a temp table |
| 02:13.52 | NightHawkTheSane | thats what i figured. this is going to make my head hurt. |
| 02:13.56 | Wobin | or a lookup table |
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| 02:14.26 | Arrowmaster | or something like pairs it to find the highest k value |
| 02:14.30 | Shirik | oh, on-demand testing, nice |
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| 02:14.38 | Arrowmaster | then do like for x = 1, k do |
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| 02:14.42 | Shirik | I guess I was still a little off then, hrm |
| 02:14.47 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+rR] by Shirik |
| 02:14.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: well i really dont want to iterate, ill have to use a separate lookup table. |
| 02:15.02 | Shirik | haha |
| 02:15.03 | Shirik | ERROR: While performing analysis 1: ai.lua:183: attempt to perform arithmetic on global 'lastOccurrance' (a nil value) |
| 02:15.04 | Shirik | dododo |
| 02:15.18 | kd3 | rofl |
| 02:15.42 | Shirik | !reload |
| 02:15.42 | Shiibot | AI routines & configuration reloaded |
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| 02:15.50 | Shirik | more testing please! |
| 02:16.16 | Shirik | :( |
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| 02:18.35 | Shirik | yay |
| 02:18.39 | Shirik | now that this is solved |
| 02:18.57 | Shirik | I can go to mgt |
| 02:19.34 | Shirik | curiously enough, this is like the first attack in a week or so |
| 02:19.36 | Tem | ScytheBlade1, ping |
| 02:19.45 | Shirik | That's rather disappointing that he's slowing down |
| 02:19.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Tem: pong |
| 02:19.59 | Tem | does your grab the patch thing work on live patches? |
| 02:20.23 | morkii | grab the patch? |
| 02:20.51 | Tem | just like in a resturant without prices, if you have to ask you shouldn't be there |
| 02:21.03 | ScytheBlade1 | hahaha |
| 02:21.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Not atm |
| 02:21.31 | morkii | well if its private maybe you should ask in private eh |
| 02:21.31 | Tem | fix it imo |
| 02:21.53 | Tem | morkii, I would take anything I say personally right now |
| 02:21.59 | Tem | I'm in just about the shittiest mood ever |
| 02:22.08 | Tem | so fuck off |
| 02:22.20 | Shirik | I may not ghost myself |
| 02:22.24 | Shirik | hi Lopeppy |
| 02:22.28 | Shirik | Loppeppy* |
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| 02:22.35 | Shirik | whatever how you spell it |
| 02:22.41 | Lopeppeppy | *mutter mutter Shiibot mutter* |
| 02:22.49 | Lunessa | Hey Tem... Bite me. :P |
| 02:22.50 | Shirik | aww |
| 02:22.57 | Shirik | I was going to have them try to guess how I knew you were coming peppy |
| 02:23.02 | Tem | Shirik, you said hi before she joined the channel? |
| 02:23.07 | Shirik | hehehe |
| 02:23.13 | Lopeppeppy | He's stalking me again! |
| 02:23.17 | Tem | I knew it |
| 02:23.25 | Tem | he was stalking me the other day |
| 02:23.26 | Lopeppeppy | Yay, Seerah! |
| 02:23.35 | Shirik | (22:20:41)  -› [ChanServ] [#shiibot] The channel you have tried to enter is currently locked. Please register with Nickserv to gain entry: /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER |
| 02:23.35 | Shirik | (22:21:57)  -› Join: Lopeppeppy (n=Lopeppep@cpe-67-246-45-198.nycap.res.rr.com) |
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| 02:23.36 | Tem | Hey Lunessa, *chomp* |
| 02:23.37 | Shirik | ^ |
| 02:23.48 | Lopeppeppy | ~bite Lunessa |
| 02:23.49 | purl | ACTION takes a big bite out of Lunessa's jugular vein |
| 02:25.08 | Lopeppeppy | Wow, go for it, purl. |
| 02:25.16 | Shirik | ~bite Lopeppeppy |
| 02:25.17 | purl | ACTION takes a big bite out of Lopeppeppy's jugular vein |
| 02:25.28 | Lunessa | purl is like, turning me into the living dead. |
| 02:26.18 | NightHawkTheSane | End: ping |
| 02:26.49 | Lunessa | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/10/13/funny-pictures-pthpbpbpbppththbp/ |
| 02:27.09 | kd3 | har |
| 02:27.48 | Lopeppeppy | Nice, Lunessa. |
| 02:29.35 | Lunessa | I think I might not post on the UI & Macros forum much this week. |
| 02:29.57 | |Jelly| | Me neither ... will probably just get me in trouble. |
| 02:30.32 | Lopeppeppy | I think you guys should kinda leave that to us nice peoples. |
| 02:30.50 | Aznamir | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuXO_lbPeS0 |
| 02:30.58 | |Jelly| | I don't know. I have a playlist called "fuckin legit" now. It's time to get into some trouble! |
| 02:31.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Tem: sorry, leading a raid, sheeping, CCing, running DKP and master looter all at the same time |
| 02:32.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Tem: if Blizzard gives me a single-file download tomorrow I can snag it |
| 02:32.15 | Tem | no worries |
| 02:32.18 | Tem | I was just curious |
| 02:32.29 | Tem | I've become a little spoiled to getting the patch from you |
| 02:32.37 | ScytheBlade1 | I have a "DownloadFile" function and a "SearchAndDownload" function |
| 02:32.48 | ScytheBlade1 | The search only scans beta patches atm and both are limited to single-file patches :) |
| 02:33.06 | Tem | Anyone leveled inscription got any clue how much of what herbs I need to get to ~125 skill? |
| 02:33.26 | Lopeppeppy | A buttload plus a metric f**kton. |
| 02:33.51 | Tem | I think I've already got a metric fuckton |
| 02:33.59 | Tem | I'll have to ask tek about a buttload |
| 02:34.13 | Lunessa | ... |
| 02:34.17 | Lopeppeppy | Sounds good to me. |
| 02:34.18 | Shirik | one more quick change |
| 02:34.19 | Shirik | !reload |
| 02:34.19 | Shiibot | AI routines & configuration reloaded |
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| 02:36.47 | Shirik|AFK | .............................................................................................................. |
| 02:36.52 | Shirik|AFK | my laptop is too intelligent |
| 02:36.57 | Lopeppeppy | .... |
| 02:37.05 | Lopeppeppy | Is it that nuclear power plant thing again? |
| 02:37.17 | Shirik|AFK | yes |
| 02:37.27 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik-dear, get that reactor shielded. |
| 02:38.23 | Shirik|AFK | oh yeah btw, one last thing |
| 02:38.24 | Shirik|AFK | !reload |
| 02:38.24 | Shiibot | AI routines & configuration reloaded |
| 02:38.29 | Shirik|AFK | curse my lack of testing |
| 02:40.10 | Lunessa | "If Apple went to a party, it would turn up last and leave with the hottest girl there." |
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| 02:40.23 | Lopeppeppy | ? |
| 02:41.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: hehee |
| 02:42.16 | ZorbaTHut | I'm assuming it isn't yet known for absolute certain what the .toc interface number will be for tomorrow? |
| 02:42.24 | Lunessa | I was quoting a Wired piece on possible stuff from tomorrows laptop announcements |
| 02:42.34 | Lopeppeppy | Nope. Read 'em when you get 'em, ZorbaTHut. |
| 02:42.53 | ZorbaTHut | pity, guess I'll just have to make another 2.4.3 release |
| 02:49.16 | NightHawkTheSane | holy crap |
| 02:49.20 | NightHawkTheSane | I think i beat FSF into submission. |
| 02:49.31 | Shirik|AFK | free software foundation? |
| 02:49.43 | NightHawkTheSane | ... I wish, but no. FauxScrollFrame. ;) |
| 02:49.47 | Shirik|AFK | oh |
| 02:49.55 | Lopeppeppy | Good job, NightHawkTheSane! |
| 02:56.43 | Shirik|AFK | heyheyheyhey Tem |
| 02:56.45 | Shirik|AFK | ping |
| 02:56.48 | Shirik|AFK | you're going to love tis |
| 02:58.16 | sylvanaar | how do i change the category my addon is in on wowi? |
| 02:58.20 | Shirik|AFK | you ask |
| 02:58.35 | Shirik|AFK | which one and where do you want it? |
| 02:59.13 | sylvanaar | ok, thats the conclusion i came to, im not sure where i want it. I guess in the beta addons section, will it still appear in the wotlk section too? |
| 02:59.40 | Shirik|AFK | nope, though the wotlk section will probably disappear soon |
| 02:59.43 | Shirik|AFK | with 3.0 coming out |
| 03:00.09 | sylvanaar | ah, ok, then er, the beta section i think |
| 03:00.18 | Shirik|AFK | ok which addon? |
| 03:00.22 | sylvanaar | Prat-3.0 |
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| 03:00.38 | Shirik|AFK | oh the one that's not even approved yet ^_^ |
| 03:00.57 | Shirik|AFK | wait |
| 03:00.58 | sylvanaar | hm? |
| 03:00.58 | Shirik|AFK | where did it go |
| 03:01.02 | Shirik|AFK | :/ |
| 03:01.04 | Shirik|AFK | nm |
| 03:01.04 | sylvanaar | it was approved |
| 03:01.09 | Shirik|AFK | yeah I'm going crazy |
| 03:01.26 | Shirik|AFK | reading the wrong things |
| 03:01.59 | Shirik|AFK | there you go sylvanaar :) |
| 03:02.05 | sylvanaar | thanks |
| 03:06.14 | Tem | Shirik|AFK, pong |
| 03:06.20 | Shirik|AFK | hihi Tem |
| 03:06.32 | Shirik|AFK | remember when I said they took the 5% up to 30%? |
| 03:06.36 | Shirik|AFK | for clearcasting? |
| 03:06.41 | Tem | you're considerably more bouncy on irc |
| 03:06.44 | Tem | aye, I remember |
| 03:06.47 | Shirik|AFK | I was wrong |
| 03:06.49 | Shirik|AFK | it's actually 45% |
| 03:06.54 | Tem | ... |
| 03:07.14 | Lopeppeppy | No wonder he's bouncing. |
| 03:07.19 | Shirik|AFK | and no I'm just kinda like.... strange right now |
| 03:07.26 | Shirik|AFK | I don't know what to do with myself |
| 03:07.26 | Lopeppeppy | Jet lag, trust me. |
| 03:09.27 | Sixen | Hehe. |
| 03:09.34 | Wobin | Rising up, back on the street |
| 03:09.35 | Sixen | Peppy, you took a pic of me laughing at you, QQ. |
| 03:09.43 | Wobin | Did my time, took my chances |
| 03:09.44 | Lopeppeppy | I huh? |
| 03:09.57 | Wobin | Went the distance, now I'm back on the street |
| 03:09.58 | Lopeppeppy | Sixen, how do you know what pictures I took? I haven't sorted or posted any! |
| 03:10.00 | Sixen | You were saying how when you hug your brother-in-law or something, your head only reaches to their chest. |
| 03:10.07 | Wobin | s/the street/my feet/ |
| 03:10.09 | Sixen | I laughed and you took a pic of me laughing at you, =X. |
| 03:10.17 | Wobin | Just a man and his will to survive... |
| 03:10.26 | Lunessa | It's the eye of the tiger... |
| 03:10.32 | Lopeppeppy | If I did, I haven't seen it yet, Sixen.... |
| 03:10.35 | Lopeppeppy | *goes to try to look* |
| 03:10.39 | Wobin | It's the cream of the fight |
| 03:10.48 | Wobin | Risin up to the challenge of our rivals! |
| 03:10.49 | Sixen | Heh... I had an shirt with a Protoss face on it. |
| 03:11.02 | Sixen | As you were taking the pic you said something like, "and you're over here laughing at me..." |
| 03:11.11 | Lunessa | Wobin... I feel that we're the only 80s fans on at the moment. |
| 03:11.36 | Sixen | And Cairenn said how I suck at life because I didn't have a shirt yet, and you told us how much the love in the room increased, :(. |
| 03:11.40 | WobWork | Lunessa: It's sad =( |
| 03:11.53 | WobWork | Lunessa: I had it stuck in my head, so I was hoping to earwig some other people |
| 03:12.22 | Lunessa | I'll be singing it all the way home. And the Weird All spoof. |
| 03:12.23 | Lopeppeppy | I think I just found that one, Sixen. *nod* |
| 03:12.36 | WobWork | "Aaaaaadriaaaan!! It's MEEEE RAOHKY!" |
| 03:12.39 | Lopeppeppy | See, you guys have an advantage. There were 3 girls, you can remember us wicked easy. |
| 03:12.44 | Lopeppeppy | There were 40 of you guys! |
| 03:12.46 | Lopeppeppy | *sniff* |
| 03:13.16 | Sixen | Haha, truth. |
| 03:13.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: poke! |
| 03:14.13 | Lopeppeppy | I think you had glasses on your head! |
| 03:14.16 | Lunessa | Rocky, you got hit him so hard, his ancestors will feel it. |
| 03:14.41 | End | it's the eye of the tiger |
| 03:15.11 | WobWork | You should take her to the zoo. Retards -love- the zoo! |
| 03:15.28 | Sixen | Yeah, I did, Peppy. |
| 03:15.38 | Lopeppeppy | Yay me! I think I got it right!!! |
| 03:15.43 | Sixen | I wish I would've taken them off, I looked kinda fruity.. I forgot I had left them there, they weren't even mine, :(. |
| 03:16.20 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* |
| 03:16.24 | Lopeppeppy | That's kinda funny! |
| 03:16.27 | Sixen | =| |
| 03:16.34 | Lopeppeppy | I love my pictures of all 4 dinosaurs. |
| 03:16.39 | Sixen | I thought that was cool. |
| 03:16.40 | Shirik|AFK | nevcairiel: ping |
| 03:16.50 | Sixen | Argh. I'll brb~ |
| 03:18.56 | NightHawkTheSane | ARGH. FUCK YOU FauxScrollFrame! |
| 03:19.02 | End | :-/ |
| 03:19.25 | End | Why are you still dealing with FauxScrollFrame? |
| 03:19.32 | NightHawkTheSane | i actually had it working, at one point. |
| 03:19.41 | Lopeppeppy | At one point. |
| 03:20.07 | NightHawkTheSane | but then i tried to make it work for both types of mounts, and it's gone downhill from there. |
| 03:20.14 | End | :X |
| 03:20.46 | End | otoh |
| 03:21.10 | End | you change your passion for glory |
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| 03:21.23 | End | it's the eye of the tiger |
| 03:22.10 | Lopeppeppy | ~staple end |
| 03:22.10 | purl | ACTION attaches a staple gun to a pneumatic nail gun via duct tape, staples end quite well, and hands end to lopeppeppy |
| 03:24.01 | widgertick | You should use a HybridScrollFrame, they look cooler |
| 03:24.01 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:24.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Illidari Council pull |
| 03:24.10 | ScytheBlade1 | The Misdirect doesn't happen |
| 03:24.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Raidwipe |
| 03:24.13 | kd3 | ow |
| 03:24.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Hunter: "bow broke" |
| 03:24.28 | ScytheBlade1 | I lol'd |
| 03:25.04 | Shirik|AFK | Yssaril: ping |
| 03:25.59 | Lopeppeppy | .... |
| 03:26.02 | Lopeppeppy | bow broken |
| 03:26.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Can't MD without a working bow |
| 03:27.11 | End | wtf |
| 03:27.23 | End | how does a hunter let his bow break? |
| 03:27.32 | ambethia | "hunter broke" |
| 03:27.57 | Lopeppeppy | No hunter in my group has had a bow break since ZG. That's why you always keep a BACKUP weapon, kthx. |
| 03:28.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, she had it |
| 03:28.24 | ScytheBlade1 | She just didn't notice in time |
| 03:28.34 | Lopeppeppy | Her needs... a durability check! |
| 03:29.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Her addons cover op part of her paper doll frame |
| 03:29.30 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: you should make her do nef. |
| 03:30.03 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:30.12 | ScytheBlade1 | She's a comptent hunter, I doubt that's the real issue |
| 03:30.16 | ScytheBlade1 | was just a one-off mistake |
| 03:30.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Incidentially we have a prot pally from Drow in here (the "Drow way of doing M'uru") |
| 03:30.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Who instantly added a story where he was tanking Brut |
| 03:30.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Two melee swings and his shield broke |
| 03:30.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Followed by him breaking |
| 03:31.17 | Lopeppeppy | Nice. |
| 03:31.24 | ScytheBlade1 | That's another quality way of wiping a raid |
| 03:32.21 | Lunessa | Night all. |
| 03:32.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Night |
| 03:32.44 | ScytheBlade1 | widgertick: hybrid scroll frame? o_0 |
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| 03:34.54 | NightHawkTheSane | okay.. I've got this: in my OnVerticalScroll function, FauxScrollFrame_OnVerticalScroll(self, offset, 20, StableBoy_ScrollBar_Update) I want to pass a parameter to StableBoy_ScrollBar_Update, but it complains if i use StableBoy_ScrollBar_Update(someparam) |
| 03:34.55 | NightHawkTheSane | ideas? |
| 03:35.15 | End | make a closure? |
| 03:35.27 | End | (I almost called it a lambda) |
| 03:35.49 | Shirik|AFK | I'll lambda your face |
| 03:35.51 | ScytheBlade1 | So |
| 03:35.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Someone just broke vent |
| 03:35.58 | NightHawkTheSane | hm. example? maybe im just tired, but im not seeing it.. |
| 03:36.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Over the text to speech came |
| 03:36.12 | End | sorry, doing illidan :X |
| 03:36.13 | ScytheBlade1 | "I have sex with murlocs" about 40 times in a second |
| 03:36.24 | End | s/doing/failing at/ |
| 03:36.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Followed by a quick vent disconnect |
| 03:36.33 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:36.46 | NightHawkTheSane | oh wait, i could just pass "function Something() StableBoy_ScrollBar_Update(someParam) end", right? |
| 03:36.50 | End | yes |
| 03:36.53 | ScytheBlade1 | "I hit 1 on my number pad" "Which is bound to 'I have sex with murlocs as they go, mrlrlrlrlrlrlrlrlrlrlrlr'" |
| 03:37.31 | End | itsok |
| 03:38.47 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm pretty sure ive got this working, though |
| 03:41.50 | NightHawkTheSane | End: so how many checkboxes do you think i should display at once? I'm thinking 10-15ish? |
| 03:42.37 | End | I dunno I would have shown as many as it would have shown |
| 03:43.15 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, I don't really think I can do that easily. |
| 03:43.18 | End | er |
| 03:43.22 | End | I dunno I would have shown as many as it can show |
| 03:43.31 | End | yeah, I suck at typing shit |
| 03:43.54 | End | I've never dealt with the new options frame directly |
| 03:44.02 | End | so I dunno how easy to figure that out is |
| 03:45.28 | End | ugh, I hope fights are less healing intensive in wotlk |
| 03:45.37 | End | either that, or I'll have to reroll healer |
| 03:47.24 | NightHawkTheSane | they're not really. |
| 03:47.33 | End | which? |
| 03:47.51 | NightHawkTheSane | uh.. not less healing intensive. |
| 03:47.56 | End | 2:( |
| 03:48.00 | End | I hate our healers |
| 03:48.05 | NightHawkTheSane | i'd say they're, in general, about as healing intensive as they are currently. |
| 03:48.24 | NightHawkTheSane | but, i'll also qualify that it's not really an easy comparison to make, because so many variables have changed :) |
| 03:48.32 | End | that's true... |
| 03:49.14 | NightHawkTheSane | but, having healed most heroics, and 10-man nax & obsidian sanctum a few times, i don't feel my job was significantly easier, or harder. |
| 03:49.35 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11162486364&sid=1&pageNo=1#8 |
| 03:49.38 | ScytheBlade1 | looooooooooooool |
| 03:52.52 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, Shirik|AFK: pong |
| 03:52.53 | NightHawkTheSane | okay. FSF is my bitch. |
| 03:52.58 | Shirik|AFK | um |
| 03:53.00 | Shirik|AFK | I forget |
| 03:53.01 | Shirik|AFK | sorry |
| 03:53.19 | NightHawkTheSane | granted, my code is really ugly, and a little hacky, but oh well |
| 03:53.31 | NightHawkTheSane | ill fix that up at some point |
| 03:53.39 | Thunder_Child | ok, note to self: Shirik's memory is < 6 hours |
| 03:58.50 | Thunder_Child | and to all of you who bitched at me for the name spelling i am making a pretty one and spelling them correctly |
| 04:00.09 | Lopeppeppy | I should like... go to bed or something. |
| 04:00.11 | Lopeppeppy | Damn jet lag. |
| 04:00.11 | Thunder_Child | also, does anyone know the rgb numbers for the ingame titles? |
| 04:00.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: .tga screenshot is your friend! |
| 04:00.39 | Thunder_Child | you know Lopeppeppy, you seem to have made it into the D&D game we played on sunday |
| 04:00.43 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, hmm? |
| 04:00.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Jump in game, take a screenshot |
| 04:00.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Find it out |
| 04:00.57 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, i dont has game anymore |
| 04:01.47 | Lopeppeppy | Thunder_Child, how ever did I do that? I was on an airplane somewhere. |
| 04:02.22 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy, well remember that guy sitting next to me at dinner? he is the DM, on sunday we met a new char, her name was Peppy |
| 04:02.38 | Thunder_Child | and she was a half-elf |
| 04:02.48 | Thunder_Child | s/was/is/ |
| 04:03.46 | Lopeppeppy | Awwww. Peppy's children would be half elven... *laugh* |
| 04:03.50 | Lopeppeppy | Okay, must go to bed now!!! |
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| 04:04.28 | Thunder_Child | ya, but half-elven is human efl hybrid, not gnome elf hybrid |
| 04:04.31 | Thunder_Child | elf* |
| 04:05.35 | Tekkub | no, it's just half-elven |
| 04:05.39 | Tekkub | the other half is * |
| 04:05.50 | Thunder_Child | L2D&D |
| 04:05.57 | Tekkub | NEVAR |
| 04:06.02 | Thunder_Child | ~kick Tekkub |
| 04:06.03 | purl | ACTION kicks Tekkub |
| 04:06.13 | Tekkub | I bet it's half-elven half-furblog |
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| 04:09.01 | WobWork | woah, samwise has some epic hair |
| 04:17.03 | Tekkub | seeing L80ETC killed all my Samwise fantasies |
| 04:19.18 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: something to add to your sticky: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10971933975&postId=111615121897&sid=1#4 |
| 04:20.35 | kd3 | oh, damn. how'd I forget that? |
| 04:21.18 | ScytheBlade1 | That's why this channel exists ;) |
| 04:21.19 | Thunder_Child | anyone offhand know what the default font is for the names above people in wow? |
| 04:21.36 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, no this channel exists to torment Cairenn and trade furry porn |
| 04:21.50 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 04:22.21 | kd3 | Duman, Sixen: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10972143908&postId=111617321684&sid=1#88 |
| 04:23.14 | WobWork | Tekkub: is l80etc fuzzier than samwise? |
| 04:23.55 | Tekkub | no just the whole... wannabe metal band thing was a huge turnoff |
| 04:24.43 | WobWork | oh samwise is -in- l80etc |
| 04:24.52 | WobWork | was wondering about the connection |
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| 04:38.13 | ScytheBlade1 | There's one really awesome thing about 3.0.2 |
| 04:38.19 | NightHawkTheSane | just one? |
| 04:38.23 | ScytheBlade1 | I'll log in tomorrow with a 100% chance to hit on spells vs. raid bosses |
| 04:38.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Not 99% |
| 04:38.27 | ScytheBlade1 | 100% |
| 04:38.39 | NightHawkTheSane | indeed |
| 04:39.00 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm actually .4% short of that on my shaman >.> |
| 04:39.33 | ScytheBlade1 | FAIL |
| 04:40.42 | WobWork | sbo: there's no critical 1% fail? |
| 04:40.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I dropped 20 haste for 20 hit gems, keps all socket bonuses |
| 04:40.54 | ScytheBlade1 | *kept |
| 04:40.57 | ScytheBlade1 | WobWork: not abymore |
| 04:41.01 | ScytheBlade1 | *anymore |
| 04:41.39 | Amarande | so, 202 spell hit isn't enough anymore? |
| 04:41.51 | Nom- | window 4 |
| 04:41.52 | ScytheBlade1 | nope, you need another 1% |
| 04:41.53 | Nom- | oops |
| 04:42.07 | Amarande | btw, what's the spell hit rating required to be hitcapped at 80? |
| 04:42.07 | Thunder_Child | cog|away, ping |
| 04:42.15 | ScytheBlade1 | That I have no idea |
| 04:42.25 | Amarande | if it's anything like the way things scale from 60-70 |
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| 04:42.45 | Amarande | I'm assuming that even destrolocks, mages and ele shamans will have to forgo the idea of being crit happy because they'll need to squeeze THAT much hit in? |
| 04:43.09 | ScytheBlade1 | No, because the gear ilevels will even it all out |
| 04:43.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Gems are +10 spell hit now |
| 04:43.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: actually, ele shaman kinda got nerfed >< |
| 04:43.36 | ScytheBlade1 | They'll be quite a bit more than just +10 spell hit then |
| 04:43.51 | NightHawkTheSane | we'll go from 12% hit via talents to like.. 3% |
| 04:44.05 | NightHawkTheSane | hah for massively reitemizing. >< |
| 04:45.14 | Amarande | I'm supposing gemming for spell damage even is out then? |
| 04:45.39 | NightHawkTheSane | i haven't kept up with elemental theorycrafting, so i dont even know |
| 04:46.51 | NightHawkTheSane | i would guess, for the moment, a lot of ele shaman will regem for spellhit, to make up the difference. |
| 04:47.11 | NightHawkTheSane | but at 80, i imagine the itemization would balance out to have more +hit on gear |
| 04:47.23 | Amarande | the pre-naxx gearing is going to be hell, though |
| 04:47.27 | Amarande | hell, pre-kara gearing is hard enough |
| 04:47.36 | Amarande | it's a good thing kara is really forgiving about lack of spell hit |
| 04:48.06 | Amarande | because ... well, for many classes, you basically need THAT SPECIFIC ITEM in order to hope to have enough hit to be capped pre-kara, unless you're on a server that does enough heroic PUGs to farm badges in a reasonable time |
| 04:48.27 | Amarande | for instance, I never got hitcapped on my lock apparently in large part because I was never lucky enough to be in a SH group with oblivion gloves drop |
| 04:49.23 | Amarande | and aff locks probably -technically- need it more than others |
| 04:49.37 | NightHawkTheSane | was being hitcapped pre-kara really that important? >.> |
| 04:49.39 | Amarande | I'm supposing, that in a battle where it's not a gear check where you need the utmost of DPS |
| 04:49.55 | Amarande | "spam" classes (ele shammy, shadowbolt destro lock) are less in need of maxing out hit |
| 04:50.34 | End | well |
| 04:50.38 | End | if you want to really look at it |
| 04:50.49 | End | destro loses more dps from not having hit :P |
| 04:50.53 | End | but destro does a lot more damage :P |
| 04:51.15 | End | (pre-wotlk of course) |
| 04:51.56 | Amarande | I was thinking more, aff locks need to ensure, usually, that several debuffs stay active at all times |
| 04:51.58 | Thunder_Child | damit AnduinLothar, your name is to damn big |
| 04:52.04 | End | well |
| 04:52.08 | AnduinLothar | QQ |
| 04:52.14 | Amarande | -while also finding time to spam shadowbolt, too- |
| 04:52.16 | End | before haunt it wasn't that much of a problem |
| 04:52.18 | Thunder_Child | ~swat AnduinLothar |
| 04:52.18 | purl | ACTION swats AnduinLothar with a AnduinLothar swatter |
| 04:52.29 | End | but if you lose your haunt you lose a ton of dps |
| 04:52.38 | End | corruption fails off, you lose your coeff bonus, etc etc |
| 04:53.10 | Amarande | seems to be a lot of talk that locks are going to tumble down into the 'suck' category at 80 |
| 04:53.21 | End | hard to say |
| 04:53.24 | Amarande | at least if it's anything like PTR locks at 70 |
| 04:53.36 | End | things are going to change before wotlk actually releases |
| 04:53.40 | Amarande | people on the PTR are saying their locks are doing less DPS than hybrid classes now |
| 04:53.53 | End | dunno how much damage hybrid classes are doing |
| 04:53.59 | NightHawkTheSane | everyone's saying that their class does less damage than every other class |
| 04:54.11 | Amarande | presumably because the hybrid classes benefit hugely from the spell hit thing |
| 04:54.25 | End | it looks like destro has gone down a bit though, but affliction has gone up |
| 04:54.35 | Amarande | while the pure dps classes benefit fairly little |
| 04:55.04 | End | well, I can use the hit food I guess :P |
| 04:55.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: im not sure how you figure that? |
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| 04:55.39 | End | I'm guessing interweave shocks in for an enhancement shaman? |
| 04:55.44 | End | ing* |
| 04:55.58 | End | -Do- they do that? |
| 04:56.05 | End | I don't really know how enhancement shaman play |
| 04:56.08 | Amarande | er, not the spell hit thing |
| 04:56.10 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, they do |
| 04:56.11 | Amarande | the spellpower thing |
| 04:56.21 | Amarande | seems to favor hybrids over pure dps casters, from what people are saying |
| 04:56.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: spell power thing? what? |
| 04:56.32 | End | how so? |
| 04:56.36 | NightHawkTheSane | that makes no sense |
| 04:56.37 | End | besides healer <--> caster? |
| 04:56.49 | Amarande | not 100%, since there are some items that used to be healer gear only and are now drooly DPS gear too |
| 04:56.59 | End | not many, but a few |
| 04:57.12 | NightHawkTheSane | meh. at best, it only makes healers capable of not terrible dps. |
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| 04:57.14 | Amarande | End: yeah, I can't think of any off the top of my head other than Nadina's |
| 04:57.14 | End | I have to say, the damn haste healer ring is better than one of my dps rings -now- :X |
| 04:57.22 | End | cuz of the haste :P |
| 04:57.30 | Amarande | are there ANY other necks with spell crit and a non-element-specific spellpower bonus pre-sunwell that are anywhere near as good? |
| 04:57.34 | End | the dps caster version hasn't dropped in months |
| 04:58.01 | Amarande | I'm combing through the necks list on wowhead |
| 04:58.05 | End | my pvp necklace isn't beaten until sunwell |
| 04:58.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: one item does not a rule make :p |
| 04:58.55 | End | generally healer and caster gear -is- itemized differently though |
| 04:58.56 | Amarande | yeah, I was right, Nadina's is going to be prime mage/destrolock gear now |
| 04:59.09 | Amarande | point the first: there are only ten epic BC amulets with spell crit at all |
| 04:59.58 | NightHawkTheSane | End: i keep telling people that, people seem to think spell power is everything, though |
| 05:00.24 | Amarande | the one from prince, might be competitive. a little better stats, but gains 4 spell crit at the cost of 14 spell power |
| 05:00.26 | Amarande | also no mp5 at all |
| 05:00.38 | Amarande | am I understanding right that casters other than priests are going to need spirit/mp5 more than they used to? |
| 05:01.31 | Amarande | hmm, let's see ... KT's necklace is worthless |
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| 05:02.00 | Amarande | well, not quite worthless, but it's pretty much the same situation as Prince's |
| 05:02.20 | Amarande | not quite as much so. minus one spellpower for +5 crit and a little better stats. again no mp5. |
| 05:02.46 | Amarande | the necklace from Anger has no stats at all ... |
| 05:03.14 | Amarande | yeah, looks like Nadina's becomes slightly better than the Prince or KT necks |
| 05:04.27 | NightHawkTheSane | thats pretty much strictly a quirk of itemization, i think |
| 05:04.36 | End | NightHawkTheSane: yeah |
| 05:04.37 | NightHawkTheSane | as it was a pally/crit based healing item. |
| 05:04.37 | End | also |
| 05:04.43 | End | maces vs. daggers |
| 05:05.06 | End | maces are going to tend to have more mp5 or spirit on them |
| 05:05.07 | NightHawkTheSane | very true |
| 05:05.22 | Amarande | exactly how is the role of mp5/spirit changing in 3.0, anyway? |
| 05:05.24 | NightHawkTheSane | well, maces -tend- to be healing items, daggers almost never are. |
| 05:05.33 | Amarande | I'm a bit fuzzy on it other than that only priests used to go for it much, and now casters in general will want it |
| 05:05.37 | NightHawkTheSane | (bonus points if you know why this is so) |
| 05:05.50 | End | it's...slightly useful for warlocks, since fel armor scales with it |
| 05:05.52 | Sixen | hahah http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/4172/qapostersmf7.jpg |
| 05:05.53 | Sixen | that's so win |
| 05:05.55 | Sixen | thanks kd3 |
| 05:06.03 | kd3 | np |
| 05:06.09 | End | NightHawkTheSane: besides who can use them? |
| 05:06.14 | Amarande | Night: because if you want to do major healing on someone in the pre-anesthetics world of WoW, you need to clock them on the head with your cudgel before you go doing surgery. :) |
| 05:06.18 | NightHawkTheSane | End: thats basically it. :P |
| 05:06.24 | Sixen | Oh, kd3 I was thinking... |
| 05:06.41 | NightHawkTheSane | pallies cant use daggers so you almost never see healing itemized daggers |
| 05:06.41 | Sixen | Should I just turn sixen.org/kd3 to sixen.org/qa and we can use it as a small depository for any of our stuff? |
| 05:06.42 | End | as a warlock, I can't uses maces, paladins can't use daggers :P |
| 05:06.49 | NightHawkTheSane | exactly |
| 05:06.50 | End | use* |
| 05:06.53 | kd3 | sure |
| 05:06.54 | End | (mages too) |
| 05:07.00 | Sixen | I could put that pic up there as well. |
| 05:07.02 | Amarande | now, the real question I suppose is |
| 05:07.09 | Amarande | assuming a group that's competent enough to do any of them well |
| 05:07.13 | End | even shaman can use daggers though, so ele is fine :o |
| 05:07.17 | Sixen | I'll get you and duman added to the FTP once I get some time if you'd like also. |
| 05:07.20 | Amarande | which is the easiest farm - KT, Mother or Prince? |
| 05:07.41 | NightHawkTheSane | and healing staves are almost always spirit based, because only priests and druids will ever use them |
| 05:07.52 | End | that hadn't occured to me |
| 05:07.54 | Amarande | (also, which farm are you most likely to actually *want* to do) |
| 05:07.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: prince? as in kara? |
| 05:07.56 | End | but that makes sense too |
| 05:07.58 | Amarande | Yeah. |
| 05:08.19 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, if you can get the 25 together and be sure to 1-shot, KT is easiest to farm, as you can go right to him |
| 05:08.27 | Amarande | Well, I guess Prince is easiest, though OTOH, if you're competent enough to farm any of the 3, you're probably going to want to farm Mother |
| 05:08.28 | ScytheBlade1 | haha. The oldschool "How to find the stickies" guides |
| 05:08.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Those are win |
| 05:08.32 | Sixen | kd3, qa or wowqa |
| 05:08.41 | Amarande | since chances are, if you have Mother on farm, you've long since obsoleted T5 ilvl gear |
| 05:08.44 | kd3 | probably just qa |
| 05:09.02 | Sixen | Mmmk, done. sixen.org/qa |
| 05:09.09 | Sixen | PS, update your findingstickies links then. |
| 05:09.15 | NightHawkTheSane | End: yeah, when you stop to really look at itemization, there's fairly distinct lines drawn for a lot of things |
| 05:09.16 | Amarande | then again, KT can be got to right away, and people want their phoenixes |
| 05:09.21 | ScytheBlade1 | http://sixen.org/qa/findstickiesv3.jpg is epic |
| 05:09.25 | End | yeah, that's cool |
| 05:09.36 | Amarande | especially now if you have any Tauren in your raid |
| 05:09.52 | Sixen | Hahaha, :P. Those are kd3's Finding Stickies guides, ;) |
| 05:09.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup I know |
| 05:10.19 | Thunder_Child | ok, if anyone has issues with spelling blame Iriel, i used his list. http://www.thunder-child.net/Misc/Blizzcon2008UIGroupLabeled.jpg |
| 05:10.20 | Corrodias | guides? are there more than one? |
| 05:10.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Although the "Addicts..." on v4 is equally awesome |
| 05:10.26 | Thunder_Child | this is the redone one |
| 05:10.34 | Amarande | apparently, the reason we'll see every rich dailies addict on an albino drake in a few days or so is because of tauren. |
| 05:10.34 | Tekkub | TC forgot titles :P |
| 05:10.36 | ScytheBlade1 | As is the "Not a sticky" over IRC |
| 05:10.39 | Amarande | it's all your fault, cows. |
| 05:10.52 | Thunder_Child | Tekkub, i know, if i did one, i would have to do them all and i am lazy |
| 05:10.59 | Thunder_Child | and i would have to think of some then |
| 05:11.01 | End | I thought Cairenn was supposed to be labeled hostile? |
| 05:11.09 | Thunder_Child | more like lord and master |
| 05:11.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: huh? |
| 05:11.18 | Tekkub | only the people that noone knows hneed titles |
| 05:11.18 | Sixen | Er |
| 05:11.41 | Sixen | Sbo, they are awesome, I agree, =D |
| 05:11.42 | kd3 | she was labeled hostile last year because a few people had to fetch her out of the women's room so we could take the pic |
| 05:11.48 | Sixen | :( |
| 05:11.49 | Thunder_Child | Tekkub, but if no one knows them, are they going to care? |
| 05:11.55 | Amarande | Night: they cut the requirement for the albino drake from 75 mounts to 50 |
| 05:11.58 | Tekkub | you know they'll ask |
| 05:12.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: oh, yeah |
| 05:12.07 | Thrae | Cairenn Level 92++++ (World Boss) 100%/100% |
| 05:12.09 | Amarande | because otherwise, it was difficult for tauren to the point of being ridiculously unfair |
| 05:12.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: well, blame blizzard for making 3/5 the horde mounts unusable to tauren >< |
| 05:12.29 | Amarande | As in Tauren would probably have to literally spend $1,000 USD in order to get a drake |
| 05:12.32 | Tekkub | a better solution would have been to let tauren ride chocobos |
| 05:12.32 | NightHawkTheSane | s/difficult/basically impossible/ p |
| 05:12.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Thrae: wow, the "solo" jokes I could make there would probably get me booted out of here pretty quickly |
| 05:12.42 | Shirik | everyone tackle Cairenn |
| 05:12.48 | Amarande | Tekkub: raptors, too ... we're not sure why they can ride the MgT chocobo and the PvP raptor but not other ones of those types |
| 05:13.01 | Shirik | :( fine nobody |
| 05:13.06 | Thunder_Child | ~tackle Shirik |
| 05:13.07 | purl | ACTION tackles Shirik to the ground. |
| 05:13.16 | End | yeah, it's dumb |
| 05:13.18 | Amarande | Night: yeah, that's why I said 'ridiculously unfair' |
| 05:13.19 | Shirik | oh hi Kaelten |
| 05:13.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: simple, they didnt want to exclude one race from a random drop, or an earned pvp mount. |
| 05:13.21 | End | tauren are too fat or something |
| 05:13.22 | ScytheBlade1 | ~factinfo failrik |
| 05:13.22 | purl | failrik -- created by Cide <n=Cide@hus110a.bobbnet.com> at Mon Mar 17 17:36:58 2008 (210 days); it has been requested 159 times, last by Lunessa, 3h 18s ago. |
| 05:13.27 | Kaelten | hiya :) |
| 05:13.29 | End | but it's not a universally applied rule |
| 05:13.35 | Thunder_Child | wow, 159 times |
| 05:13.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Ohh, Kaelten |
| 05:13.42 | Amarande | yeah, tauren aren't that much bigger than draenei |
| 05:13.54 | Amarande | and draenei don't have any restrictions other than no mechanostriders |
| 05:13.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Kaelten: I broke my curse account right proper, any chance you could change a password for me? :) |
| 05:14.14 | Kaelten | ScytheBlade1: send me an email : and I'll see what I can do :) |
| 05:14.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Kaelten: where to? |
| 05:14.26 | Amarande | actually, maybe tauren are that much bigger than draenei |
| 05:14.29 | Kaelten | kaelten at gmail |
| 05:14.31 | Amarande | I could swear that orcs are bigger than draenei too |
| 05:14.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Will do, thanks |
| 05:14.38 | Sixen | Heh, Peppy's name is spelled wrong in that picture, :(. |
| 05:14.47 | ZorbaTHut | I think draenai might be taller but narrower than orcs |
| 05:14.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: i think draenei are taller, but orcs might be broader |
| 05:14.53 | ZorbaTHut | orcs have the whole bulk thing going on |
| 05:14.56 | ZorbaTHut | tauren are just huge |
| 05:14.57 | Amarande | then again, I've only played a *female* draenei so I don't know how the males stack up |
| 05:15.10 | ZorbaTHut | the males are pretty big and buff |
| 05:15.26 | Corrodias | but not nearly as soft ans sexy |
| 05:15.27 | Thunder_Child | Sixen, like i said, blame Iriel |
| 05:15.35 | Corrodias | as the females. |
| 05:15.46 | Sixen | TC, :P. |
| 05:16.02 | Corrodias | with that oh-so-pullable tail |
| 05:16.43 | Corrodias | and those take-life-by-the horns |
| 05:17.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Kaelten: e-mail away |
| 05:17.32 | Amarande | anyway, yeah, the tauren wouldn't have been able to make 75 mounts without spending hundreds of dollars on a loot card right? |
| 05:17.49 | Amarande | I considered getting the X-51 nether rocket once for my BElf lock |
| 05:17.56 | NightHawkTheSane | i haven't done the math |
| 05:18.04 | Amarande | but ... I can fly round trip cross-country IRL for less than that stupid loot card goes for on ebay |
| 05:18.08 | NightHawkTheSane | but just eyeballing it, im not even sure loot cards would have made up the difference |
| 05:18.14 | End | I suspect tauren might still have managed |
| 05:18.17 | Thunder_Child | Sixen, fixeded |
| 05:18.23 | ZorbaTHut | I saw someone who'd done the math and concluded that tauren literally couldn't do it |
| 05:18.27 | NightHawkTheSane | -maybe- if they had loot cards, the old models, and such |
| 05:18.29 | ZorbaTHut | even with loot cards, but ignoring any Northrend mounts |
| 05:18.30 | Cairenn | no tackling of the Cairenn! |
| 05:18.34 | End | but it would have been a lot harder |
| 05:18.35 | Shirik | ~tackle Cairenn |
| 05:18.36 | purl | ACTION tackles Cairenn to the ground. |
| 05:18.42 | Sixen | <3 TC. |
| 05:18.42 | ZorbaTHut | I don't think they factored the old epic models in |
| 05:18.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Well when you put it THAT way |
| 05:18.43 | End | ~huggle Cairenn |
| 05:18.44 | Amarande | I think they needed loot cards, the amani war bear and the brewfest mounts, or somesuch |
| 05:18.45 | Thunder_Child | ~tackle Cairenn |
| 05:18.45 | purl | ACTION tackles Cairenn to the ground. |
| 05:18.56 | ZorbaTHut | but yeah obviously ridiculously hard |
| 05:18.58 | Shirik | !quote PRIVMSG #wowuidev :~tackle Cairenn |
| 05:18.58 | Shiibot | ~tackle Cairenn |
| 05:18.59 | purl | ACTION tackles Cairenn to the ground. |
| 05:18.59 | batbot | Shirik, privmsg has not said anything with your given pattern. |
| 05:19.00 | End | >:( |
| 05:19.05 | Thunder_Child | purl's spam watch is making fail |
| 05:19.12 | Amarande | now it's gonna be way too easy, though |
| 05:19.13 | End | 23:18 <purl> Someone already said that 6 seconds ago |
| 05:19.20 | ScytheBlade1 | ~tackle Cairenn |
| 05:19.21 | purl | ACTION tackles Cairenn to the ground. |
| 05:19.24 | Cairenn | :) |
| 05:19.25 | Cairenn | hi all |
| 05:19.28 | WobWork | ~tackle Cairenn lots |
| 05:19.29 | purl | ACTION tackles Cairenn lots to the ground. |
| 05:19.30 | Amarande | someone calculated that for a non-tauren, you can get the albino drake (assuming you already have 300 riding) |
| 05:19.30 | ZorbaTHut | I sort of wish they'd just done "must have all available faction mounts and X other mounts" |
| 05:19.31 | End | hi Cairenn |
| 05:19.33 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:19.34 | Sixen | Hai Cairenn. |
| 05:19.40 | Amarande | for less than it cost you to get your 300 riding in the first place |
| 05:19.53 | End | yeah |
| 05:19.54 | Amarande | think it was about 3400g or such if you went with the cheapest choices and got exalted with all cities |
| 05:19.57 | End | lotta lowbie mounts |
| 05:20.04 | ZorbaTHut | amarande, it's a lot of work though, isn't it? I mean, inexpensive, but grinding that can't be done with turnins |
| 05:20.06 | WobWork | broomstick |
| 05:20.09 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: im not sure i agree with that specifically, but yeah, something like that probably would have been beter |
| 05:20.23 | End | grinding can be done with faction quests if you haven't already |
| 05:20.38 | End | but practically only new characters can use that |
| 05:20.50 | Amarande | Zorba: lots of runecloth, mainly |
| 05:20.56 | Amarande | mainly for horde, though |
| 05:21.07 | *** join/#wowuidev Yssaril (n=Yssaril@adsl-99-145-19-62.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) |
| 05:21.08 | Sixen | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11162526495 -- Am I fighting a losing battle? |
| 05:21.13 | End | yes |
| 05:21.21 | Amarande | alliance seem to have it pretty easy, I just hit exalted with Darnassus at 40 without doing any turnins but the wool and silk |
| 05:21.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Sixen: well, that website looks like the WoW forums to me, so, yes |
| 05:21.34 | Amarande | and thus, I FINALLY have a mount. |
| 05:21.40 | Sixen | Nevermind, =). |
| 05:21.43 | Sixen | Sbo: lawl |
| 05:21.58 | Amarande | Which I will probably keep forgetting to use as I am too ingrained into using ghost wolf anyway. :S |
| 05:22.17 | WobWork | hm, every time I see ZorbaTHut I visualise Jabba doing the Syrtaki.... |
| 05:22.24 | WobWork | and it disturbs me =( |
| 05:22.36 | Thunder_Child | as disturbed as you are? |
| 05:22.37 | Amarande | And I'm pretty sure there isn't anywhere where you can use a mount but not ghost wolf, to remind me that I should be using my mount now. |
| 05:22.42 | Thunder_Child | thats impressive |
| 05:22.46 | Corrodias | there is no such thing as winning when you're posting on the wow forums |
| 05:22.50 | Sixen | :( |
| 05:22.54 | Amarande | hmm |
| 05:23.00 | Thunder_Child | Corrodias, win |
| 05:23.03 | End | sure there is |
| 05:23.03 | Amarande | can any of you think of a situation where ghost wolf is not castable, but a mount can be used? |
| 05:23.05 | End | by not posting |
| 05:23.16 | Sixen | Haha |
| 05:23.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: oom |
| 05:23.33 | Thunder_Child | end, thats fail |
| 05:23.33 | Amarande | Night: didn't really think of that |
| 05:23.44 | Amarande | though, if you're so oom that you have to get away without having time to wait for just 100 mana to regen |
| 05:23.44 | End | You and I have different brands of fail |
| 05:23.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: its a silly edge case, but |
| 05:23.46 | Amarande | you're probably either |
| 05:23.46 | *** part/#wowuidev Seerah (n=Ryan_L@adsl-177-35-112.mem.bellsouth.net) |
| 05:23.50 | Amarande | a) in combat, and can't use your mount |
| 05:23.58 | Amarande | or b) going to be in combat within 3 seconds, and can't use your mount |
| 05:24.03 | WobWork | Thunder_Child goes for the home brand fail |
| 05:24.05 | WobWork | cause he's cheap |
| 05:24.12 | End | it can still happen though |
| 05:24.14 | Amarande | I'm still trying to figure out how -acquiring aggro- interrupts using a mount |
| 05:24.18 | Tem | kd3, ping? |
| 05:24.19 | Amarande | EVERY other situation in the game |
| 05:24.23 | kd3 | pong |
| 05:24.35 | Amarande | where you cannot do XYZ in combat, and entering combat hard-interrupts the action |
| 05:24.36 | Tem | mind logging your mage to port a friend of mine to Dalaran? |
| 05:24.38 | Sixen | pingpong! |
| 05:24.39 | Amarande | you don't get interrupted till you are actually hit |
| 05:24.44 | Amarande | why does mounting get interrupted on-aggro, then? |
| 05:24.45 | Tem | (yes, lol, a dalaran port request) |
| 05:24.46 | End | rezzing? |
| 05:25.00 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ |
| 05:25.05 | Amarande | End: doesn't that only interrupt when you actually get hit, if you are already midcast? |
| 05:25.16 | NightHawkTheSane | nope, entering combat will kill a rez |
| 05:25.17 | End | no, it interupts when you enter, I think |
| 05:25.20 | NightHawkTheSane | regardless of whether you get hit |
| 05:25.32 | NightHawkTheSane | i know this well, trying to do ninja-rezzees in hyjal |
| 05:25.35 | Amarande | I know things like looting objects that can't be looted in combat don't interrupt till hit |
| 05:25.37 | kd3 | sorry, I'm bailing for the night. jet lag's trying to catch up |
| 05:25.40 | End | hehe |
| 05:26.37 | Amarande | it's illogical, it should be interrupt-on-hit, can't initiate cast if aggroed |
| 05:26.49 | Tem | kd3, I got a lock |
| 05:26.51 | NightHawkTheSane | it doesn't need to be logical |
| 05:26.52 | Tem | thanks, though |
| 05:26.55 | NightHawkTheSane | it only needs to be what blizzard wants |
| 05:26.56 | kd3 | np |
| 05:27.07 | Tem | I know it's fucking lame of me to request it at all >< |
| 05:27.17 | Thunder_Child | yes tem it is |
| 05:27.20 | NightHawkTheSane | and, for whatever reason, blizzard does not want to allow you to moount/rez at all once you've entered combat |
| 05:27.31 | Tem | Thunder_Child, I figure I'm a mage too |
| 05:27.36 | Tem | so I get a little wiggle room |
| 05:27.44 | Amarande | Night: it might lead to less repair bills or corpse run time |
| 05:27.53 | Amarande | blizzard has a vested interest in making us waste time doing as little as possible :) |
| 05:27.57 | Thunder_Child | Tem, if you are a mage, why couldnt you port your friend? |
| 05:28.07 | Tem | I haven't leveled my mage at all |
| 05:28.10 | Amarande | Time that's actually used killing mobs is bad for Blizzard |
| 05:28.11 | Thunder_Child | ah |
| 05:28.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: that's a reactionary and silly viewpoint, honestly. But you may be right. *shrug* im not speculating on reasons, im just stating what i can observe. :p |
| 05:28.21 | End | I think summoning might interupt like that too, but strangely enough, I don't even know, even though I play a warlock |
| 05:28.29 | Corrodias | i couldn't take that time-wasting any more |
| 05:28.30 | Amarande | Night: well, from a strict business standpoint :) |
| 05:28.34 | Corrodias | i flew the coop, mang |
| 05:28.35 | NightHawkTheSane | End: nah, cause im pretty sure you can summon mid-combat |
| 05:28.40 | End | nope |
| 05:28.48 | NightHawkTheSane | no? i could have sworn.. |
| 05:28.49 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-rRf] by Shiibot |
| 05:29.01 | Amarande | there's a point for every character, when they have their top level and best itemization and cannot be improved further until the next content patch or xpac |
| 05:29.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: meh, business dictates some things about design, but not all. |
| 05:29.09 | End | when I enter combat the button grays out |
| 05:29.15 | End | well, blacks out? whatever |
| 05:29.17 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, can you set a time up on Shiibot to see how long untill it has to set +rRf again? |
| 05:29.20 | Thunder_Child | timer* |
| 05:29.27 | End | and it gives an error if I try in combat |
| 05:29.42 | Amarande | it is a vested business interest for almost every MMO dev to delay this point as much as the player will tolerate. :) |
| 05:29.48 | End | I'd have to form a group if I wanted to see if getting in combat interupts though, since I'm not in my own party |
| 05:29.55 | Amarande | I say 'almost', because for say, ArenaNet, it's their best business interest to make sure you get to that point ASAP. :) |
| 05:31.11 | Shirik | I can see, Thunder_Child |
| 05:31.41 | Amarande | I blame the design of parts of BC for the thoughts of the time-wasting theory, though. |
| 05:31.41 | Shirik | I'd have to be careful about adding in a way for others to figure it out due to potential to be abused |
| 05:31.41 | Amarande | No matter how much I try to like Outland, I still can't like it as much as Azeroth |
| 05:32.21 | Amarande | maybe it's because the 55-60 Azeroth zones are awesome, while Hellfire sucks like stale Brewfest ale |
| 05:32.31 | End | yeah, hellfire is lame |
| 05:32.37 | End | so ugly |
| 05:32.46 | End | the only reason I ever liked it was because it was new |
| 05:32.47 | Amarande | and even though my characters usually enter Outland high enough level to go straight to Zangar |
| 05:32.50 | End | but it got old fast |
| 05:33.04 | Amarande | you STILL have to do at least part of Hellfire, or you'll regret, say, not being able to quest Nagrand much, if at all. |
| 05:33.17 | Amarande | At least on Horde side. I'm not sure if Kurenai require a Hellfire chain too |
| 05:33.26 | Amarande | since my highest Alliance character is 40 |
| 05:33.36 | End | mine is 50 |
| 05:33.38 | End | *high five* |
| 05:33.50 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, huh? what abuse? |
| 05:33.59 | Shirik | flood |
| 05:34.01 | Amarande | I know if you don't do a chain in Hellfire, then you can't talk to Mag'har people and thus won't be able to do -jack- in Nagrand |
| 05:34.01 | End | now that I have tourguide I might level that char a bit more |
| 05:35.15 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, ok explain this to me, how would knowing how long it takes untill the spamers come back, relate to flood? |
| 05:35.28 | Shirik | if you spam it fast enough to the bot it will disconnect with "Excess Flood" |
| 05:35.59 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, spam what though? |
| 05:36.05 | Shirik | !howmuchtimeleftyo |
| 05:36.07 | End | the request for info? |
| 05:36.11 | End | although |
| 05:36.18 | End | wouldn't the spammer have that issue too? |
| 05:36.18 | Thunder_Child | oh, no, i just meant when it did it to post in the channel |
| 05:36.20 | End | oh wait |
| 05:36.24 | End | right, if it's a botnet |
| 05:36.25 | Shirik | yes but he would have a botnet to do it |
| 05:36.44 | Amarande | spammers always have botnets of late |
| 05:36.54 | Amarande | in a way, it's actually a blessing that kids like to flood stuff with botnets |
| 05:36.54 | Thunder_Child | eg. #shiibot sets XXX |
| 05:37.02 | Thunder_Child | Shiibot: time was xxx |
| 05:37.08 | Amarande | mainly, it rolls down to this |
| 05:37.21 | Amarande | if a site gets, say, an SQL injection vulnerability |
| 05:37.35 | Amarande | -because- kids like to flood stuff with botnets, they will use it to cause visitors to the site to pick up a trojan that they can use for the purpose |
| 05:37.47 | Amarande | otherwise, they would just do ;DROP DATABASE; which is ... er ... not something to be thought about |
| 05:37.49 | Shirik | also............. |
| 05:37.57 | Shirik | Shiibot is not aware that the channel is locked |
| 05:37.59 | Shirik | oh |
| 05:38.00 | Shirik | it's not |
| 05:38.01 | Shirik | haha |
| 05:38.32 | Amarande | I must live in an ancient world, though |
| 05:38.37 | Amarande | since I value information above bandwidth ... heh |
| 05:38.40 | Shirik | ohhhhhhh |
| 05:38.46 | Shirik | Sorry Thunder_Child I misunderstood your question |
| 05:38.52 | Shirik | I thought you were asking how long is left until -r |
| 05:38.57 | Shirik | You want the time between down and up |
| 05:39.08 | Amarande | All knowledge is worth having, though |
| 05:39.10 | Shirik | yeah that can be done |
| 05:39.16 | Shirik | give me a few minutes |
| 05:39.34 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3 (n=kd3@wikia/kaydeethree) |
| 05:40.05 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, ya just curious if the spammers are on rotation or something |
| 05:42.05 | Amarande | End: yet, people will still grin and bear it and go straight to hellfire at 58 |
| 05:42.11 | Amarande | even though it's enough of a pain in the ass at 62 |
| 05:42.13 | Amarande | on an aff lock. |
| 05:42.48 | Amarande | yes, I once got a lock to 62 without going to outland at all save for a hearth in shatt |
| 05:43.21 | End | I waited til I was 60 |
| 05:43.27 | End | or maybe it was just shy of 60 |
| 05:43.37 | Amarande | Well, in the lock's case, I had been following Jame's horde leveling guide |
| 05:43.51 | Amarande | and also was getting a bunch of extra xp a lot of the time because I kept stopping to grab nearby mining nodes if I could |
| 05:44.01 | ZorbaTHut | I went straight there at 58 and had some of the easiest leveling I'd ever seen :P |
| 05:44.05 | Amarande | I was level 61 before I even finished EPL and Silithus |
| 05:44.16 | End | well, I was 345 mining when I first entered outland :P |
| 05:44.20 | End | freakin jewelcrafting |
| 05:44.25 | End | (on my lock) |
| 05:44.27 | Amarande | Then I insisted that I have my Dreadsteed before I go to outland |
| 05:44.44 | Amarande | and ... well. at the time I was on a server where people simply don't GO to Scholomance or DM |
| 05:44.57 | Amarande | in the meanwhile I ground scarlet spellbinders while trying to get a scholo group |
| 05:44.59 | End | I made no such insistance on my warlock...but I somehow had rt23:18 <purl> Someone already said that 6 seconds ago |
| 05:45.03 | End | bah |
| 05:45.07 | End | misclick |
| 05:45.13 | Shirik | !quit |
| 05:45.18 | End | I made no such insistance on my warlock...but I somehow had ritual of doom before dreadsteed |
| 05:45.26 | *** join/#wowuidev Shiibot (n=Shiibot@WoWUIDev/Nospam) |
| 05:45.27 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shiibot] by ChanServ |
| 05:45.35 | End | ~hi Shiibot |
| 05:45.36 | purl | Many greetings, Shiibot, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 05:45.51 | Shirik | !lock |
| 05:45.51 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+rRf #shiibot] by Shiibot |
| 05:45.52 | Amarande | anyway, between the xp from the quests themselves, and the xp from grinding scarlets for night after night since it took me something like two weeks to get a scholo group |
| 05:45.55 | Shirik | hrm |
| 05:45.56 | Amarande | I ended up dinging 62 in the middle of DM |
| 05:45.59 | Shirik | that's not right |
| 05:46.03 | End | heh |
| 05:46.09 | Shirik | He didn't say anything :( |
| 05:46.12 | *** join/#wowuidev Shadowed (n=outlaw@12.157.177.162) |
| 05:46.16 | Shirik | !quit |
| 05:46.16 | Shiibot | Channel locked temporarily. Elapsed time: 0.46666666666667 minutesQUIT :Shiibot 0.1 - By Matthew 'Shirik' Del Buono - Powered by Lua 5.1.3 |
| 05:46.18 | Shirik | wtf |
| 05:46.19 | Shirik | oh |
| 05:46.22 | Shirik | I forgot \r\n |
| 05:46.25 | Shirik | damn it |
| 05:46.26 | Shirik | !quit |
| 05:46.27 | End | ~fail Shirik |
| 05:46.27 | purl | Shirik: FAIL! |
| 05:46.29 | End | er |
| 05:46.32 | End | ~fail Shiibot |
| 05:46.32 | purl | You suck at everything in life, Shiibot. I hate you because you fail. |
| 05:46.38 | End | not that there's much difference |
| 05:47.11 | End | also, wasn't he supposed to quit? |
| 05:47.11 | Amarande | note: by contrast, on the server I mainly play horde on NOW |
| 05:47.11 | Shirik | yeah he did |
| 05:47.17 | Shirik | but Freenode doesn't know that |
| 05:47.18 | Amarande | when my pally had to go to scholo and strat for her charger quests |
| 05:47.22 | End | lol |
| 05:47.33 | Amarande | I got groups within an hour or two |
| 05:47.49 | End | was it all pally groups? |
| 05:47.55 | *** join/#wowuidev Shiibot (n=Shiibot@WoWUIDev/Nospam) |
| 05:47.55 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shiibot] by ChanServ |
| 05:47.56 | Amarande | actually, no |
| 05:48.02 | Shirik | !lock |
| 05:48.02 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+rRf #shiibot] by Shiibot |
| 05:48.03 | Shiibot | Channel locked temporarily. Elapsed time: 1 minutes |
| 05:48.05 | Shirik | There we go |
| 05:48.10 | Thunder_Child | wee |
| 05:48.11 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-rRf] by Shirik |
| 05:48.13 | Thunder_Child | !unlock |
| 05:48.15 | Amarande | it was a pretty decent group for both |
| 05:48.18 | Shirik | nice try Thunder_Child |
| 05:48.23 | End | !waffles |
| 05:48.25 | Thunder_Child | !lock |
| 05:48.28 | Amarande | apparently, it's not that hard to get DPS for Scholo or Strat |
| 05:48.29 | Shirik | no need for an unlock command: He just watches for -r :) |
| 05:48.30 | End | fine, purl is nicer anyways |
| 05:48.32 | End | ~waffles |
| 05:48.32 | purl | make waffles && make syrup && fork(waffles) |
| 05:48.36 | Amarande | and I was a tank, so all I needed was to drag a healer along |
| 05:48.38 | End | ~botsnack |
| 05:48.38 | purl | :), End |
| 05:49.02 | Amarande | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Quel%27dorei&n=Sadaiya <-- my tankadin |
| 05:49.03 | Shirik | hm |
| 05:49.05 | Shirik | one sec |
| 05:49.07 | Shirik | !quit |
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| 05:49.20 | Shirik | there we go all fixed |
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| 05:50.24 | Amarande | how's my tanking gear look, btw? |
| 05:50.34 | Thunder_Child | !locktime |
| 05:50.47 | End | I wouldn't know |
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| 05:58.16 | Corrodias | i am improving~ |
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| 06:02.34 | Sargeras | my pics are up |
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| 06:03.10 | Thunder_Child | Sargeras, if they are not up -> http://blizzcon.norganna.org/main.php/v/blizzcon2008/ it doesnt count |
| 06:03.54 | Sargeras | hey, I have Gallery 2 also! |
| 06:05.06 | Esamynn | if you need a login for that site, just email me |
| 06:05.08 | Esamynn | I |
| 06:05.13 | Esamynn | I'll post about it tomorrow on wowi |
| 06:05.22 | Esamynn | esamynn <at> norganna.org |
| 06:06.09 | WobWork | or, as TC would say: essamyynn<at>norganna.org |
| 06:06.52 | Thunder_Child | ~lart WobWork |
| 06:06.52 | purl | hereby declares WobWork a troll |
| 06:06.55 | Amarande | Or as you'd say after too much Brewfest Brew, eshamynn? :) |
| 06:07.09 | WobWork | well, purl's right =) |
| 06:07.11 | Thunder_Child | you know even with the comment of "they may be spelled wrong" i still cant live that down |
| 06:07.20 | WobWork | Naturally =) |
| 06:10.23 | Esamynn | night folks |
| 06:10.36 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: what did you expect? |
| 06:10.59 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: also, it seems that most of the pics up there are mine :P |
| 06:12.41 | ccox | sigh - I go away for a few days, and my guild has decided to merge, again |
| 06:12.41 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn|Away, yes, i is lazy, though i did label the group photo...which i still need to put up there.... |
| 06:12.50 | ccox | I think this is 5 merges in the past 6 weeks |
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| 06:35.36 | Dolby | so those of you not at blizzcon missed out big time. Cairenn handed out 8x10 signed glossies. |
| 06:36.08 | Neuro_Medivh | Of whom? |
| 06:36.15 | Dolby | her |
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| 06:36.46 | Neuro_Medivh | so did you see the Bird lady? |
| 06:36.50 | Cairenn | I got tired of all the teasing about giving out autographed 8x10 glossies, so actually did give them out this year |
| 06:37.07 | Sargeras | and I never got one =( |
| 06:37.07 | zenzio | "six-sided hexagon"... isn't that a double-statement? |
| 06:38.18 | duaiwe | zenzio: you mean "redundant" yes. |
| 06:39.51 | ccox|sleep | <-- has Cairenn's glossy photo |
| 06:40.09 | Cairenn | Sargeras: I thought I gave you one? *confused* |
| 06:40.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Cairenn: from what i heard, i'm a bit surprised you were so willing to give out photos of yourself :p |
| 06:40.56 | ccox|sleep | we've even got wet T-shirt photos! |
| 06:41.05 | Cairenn | ccox|sleep: shhhhhh |
| 06:41.09 | Cairenn | *grin* |
| 06:41.37 | Sargeras | No you didnt hun |
| 06:41.39 | Sargeras | I cried |
| 06:41.41 | Sargeras | twice |
| 06:41.42 | Cairenn | :( |
| 06:41.43 | Sargeras | ;p |
| 06:41.44 | Cairenn | I sowwy |
| 06:41.48 | Sargeras | its ok |
| 06:41.53 | Sargeras | you touched my leg |
| 06:41.59 | Sargeras | and the world was good |
| 06:41.59 | Sargeras | Amen |
| 06:41.59 | Cairenn | I have left over copies |
| 06:43.28 | Neuro_Medivh | Cairenn, have you guys found a way to stop WoWMatrix from downloading from you? |
| 06:43.42 | Cairenn | we're working on it |
| 06:43.47 | Thunder_Child | they arent signed though :( |
| 06:43.53 | Thunder_Child | hand signed* |
| 06:43.56 | Neuro_Medivh | ah... just thought, tomorrow would be a good day to implement that =) |
| 06:45.57 | Xinhuan | did you see wowmatrix? they added author credits and links to project pages lol |
| 06:46.30 | Cairenn | Neuro_Medivh: I wish, too many other things to worry about though, and NOT the day to try something and have it backfire and cause problems for legit users |
| 06:46.59 | Cairenn | Xinhuan: did they actually finally ad links to the project pages? |
| 06:47.05 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 06:47.10 | Cairenn | I knew they finally actually put the author names |
| 06:47.17 | Xinhuan | all projects now have links that point to the wowi, wowace or curse project pages |
| 06:47.28 | Xinhuan | as in, the actual page with the comments and screenshots and stuff |
| 06:47.31 | Cairenn | well, that's sorta kinda a step in the right direction, but still ... |
| 06:47.43 | Xinhuan | as well as author names |
| 06:47.46 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 06:47.50 | Xinhuan | at least, less support issues now |
| 06:47.53 | ZorbaTHut | I'm still surprised nobody does any kind of incremental updating. I mean these mods are text format |
| 06:47.54 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 06:48.02 | ZorbaTHut | it'd be a huge bandwidth savings |
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| 06:48.31 | ZorbaTHut | if they did that, wowmatrix might be able to host the projects themselves and still make a profit :P |
| 06:48.55 | Xinhuan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10871018107&sid=1&pageNo=8 |
| 06:48.59 | Xinhuan | Cairenn; see post 157 |
| 06:49.54 | Cairenn | good |
| 06:49.55 | Xinhuan | technically the bartender4 project page isn't wrong, since wowace project page is for more developer and beta testers and curse is more for user comments |
| 06:50.03 | Xinhuan | reply 158 that is |
| 06:51.08 | Xinhuan | in an ideal situation, wowmatrix authors should prob contact wowi and other sites heh |
| 06:51.38 | Cairenn | not holding my breath |
| 06:53.37 | End | lol @ classic thread mod thread |
| 06:59.14 | zenzio | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/10/13/funny-pictures-pthpbpbpbppththbp/ |
| 07:01.25 | Amarande | is wowace resetting their main files page for 3.0 addons yet? |
| 07:01.50 | Amarande | or are we going to have to manually pore through tocs and luas to make sure stuff is for 3.0 and not 2.4 when reconfiguring everything? |
| 07:02.17 | Xinhuan | that is an author responsibility, Amarande |
| 07:02.40 | Amarande | Xinhuan: mainly I'm wondering if files. is set up to not show obsolete addons |
| 07:02.52 | Xinhuan | i highly doubt it |
| 07:03.05 | Xinhuan | with thousands of addons, you can't tell which is/is not obsolete |
| 07:03.10 | Amarande | or even if it's set up to have the 3.0 addons in the main files. archive at all |
| 07:03.21 | Amarande | since before this coming morning, they'd be unacceptable for use since they wouldn't be ok for 2.4 |
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| 07:03.45 | ZealotOnAStick | files.wowace.com will be bye-bye tomorrow. |
| 07:04.04 | ZealotOnAStick | will redirect to wow.curse.com |
| 07:04.45 | Mundy | is bt4 even at a release state yet? |
| 07:04.49 | Mundy | last i checked it was still in beta |
| 07:05.14 | Sargeras | is the AceUpdater still going to work? |
| 07:05.15 | ZealotOnAStick | the version nev posted is listed as a beta still. |
| 07:05.23 | Xinhuan | its always in beta until all features are completed |
| 07:05.31 | Neuro_Medivh | all these posts saying "WoWMatrix is great because it's convenient!" really make me want to stop making addons |
| 07:05.55 | Xinhuan | that would be the wrong reason to stop, Neuro_Medivh |
| 07:06.06 | ZorbaTHut | neuro, why not make it more convenient to use your addon than it is through wowmatrix? |
| 07:06.07 | Neuro_Medivh | I know.. and I won't, cause then the terrorists win |
| 07:06.09 | Mundy | whats different about wowmatrix as opposed to wau? |
| 07:06.31 | Neuro_Medivh | Zorba, and how would I do that? |
| 07:06.44 | Xinhuan | the only difference between wowmatrix and wau was that WAU generated ad revenue FOR wowace, while wowmatrix generated ad revenue for themselves |
| 07:07.05 | ZorbaTHut | neuro, use a site that has a working automatic updater |
| 07:07.11 | Neuro_Medivh | code an automatic downloader just for my addons, because people are too lazy to go to the site and get it themselves? |
| 07:07.29 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, pretty much. :P |
| 07:07.31 | Xinhuan | its a matter of convenience |
| 07:07.37 | Xinhuan | why buy a car when you can walk huh |
| 07:07.56 | Xinhuan | or why not use telnet or something instead of firefox! |
| 07:08.08 | ZorbaTHut | it's rather sad that there's no good non-profit automatic updater for all sites, but, well, wowmatrix only charges in ad space. I can't blame people for using it. |
| 07:08.13 | Mundy | why not read memory bit by bit instead of using a gui! |
| 07:08.25 | ZealotOnAStick | code with copy con. |
| 07:08.37 | Neuro_Medivh | Zorba, that's like saying "Hey, of COURSE people use Limewire, why PAY for movies and music when you can just get them FREE!" |
| 07:08.45 | Xinhuan | thing is, with all these hypocrisy going around, i bet half those ppl complaining uses AdBlock in Firefox |
| 07:08.48 | ZorbaTHut | neuro, which is also something I say :) |
| 07:08.54 | Mundy | thats a little different Neuro_Medivh since that's illegal =) |
| 07:08.56 | ZorbaTHut | I mean, why else do you think people are using Limewire? |
| 07:09.24 | Neuro_Medivh | Mundy: being legal doesn't make something moral |
| 07:09.27 | ZorbaTHut | seriously, you can sit around and rant about it all you want, but you're never going to change the fact that people are going to do this. It's worth more to them, therefore, they do it. You want them to stop? Provide another mechanism that they consider more valuable. |
| 07:09.37 | Xinhuan | ^ |
| 07:09.44 | ZorbaTHut | Or, at least, no less valuable. |
| 07:09.45 | Xinhuan | back to my point: that would be the wrong reason to stop, Neuro_Medivh |
| 07:10.44 | Neuro_Medivh | I still dislike the argument of "Well, people are lazy bitches, you have to accomodate them" |
| 07:11.07 | ZorbaTHut | neuro, but can you find any flaws in that argument? :) |
| 07:11.23 | ZorbaTHut | it's certainly rather dislikable in a lot of ways, but I feel it's also true. |
| 07:11.24 | Neuro_Medivh | Of course I can. If they wanna be lazy, then so do I |
| 07:11.25 | Mundy | i don't understand why a group of addon developers or even communities haven't collaborated to create an open-source solution |
| 07:11.38 | ZorbaTHut | well, be lazy then. It's your right. :) |
| 07:11.44 | Mundy | either without ads at all, or donate ad revenue to places like wowace and curseforge |
| 07:11.55 | ZealotOnAStick | Mundy: you've been in the community long, have you? |
| 07:12.16 | Mundy | i havent really be "in" the addon community for long at all |
| 07:12.20 | Mundy | been* |
| 07:12.33 | Mundy | its only since i decided to be apart of it and try to make my own mods |
| 07:12.34 | Neuro_Medivh | Mundy, because of two reasons. One, there are two seperate focuses for the addon community, both for-profit, thus each has a vested interest in not promoting the other |
| 07:12.52 | ZealotOnAStick | now, to preface things, I'm a cynical bastard. |
| 07:12.57 | ZorbaTHut | mundy, bandwidth is expensive, and the techniques needed to reduce bandwidth usage are not entirely trivial. also, there tend to be major network effects involved in addon development. |
| 07:13.08 | ZorbaTHut | neuro, what's the second one? I know curse/ace is huge |
| 07:13.13 | Neuro_Medivh | wowi |
| 07:13.27 | Neuro_Medivh | owned by Zam? |
| 07:13.32 | ZealotOnAStick | but most of the things where I've seen a bunch of folks come together and work well together to produce something cool has only been when there's been some other singular twit to revile and encourage enough people to play nice with each other for a time. |
| 07:13.38 | ZorbaTHut | huh, I always considered wowinterface to be slowly bitrotting |
| 07:13.54 | ZorbaTHut | they've got major bugs that have gone unfixed for weeks, if not months |
| 07:14.20 | Mundy | couldnt ad revenue then soely pay for network bandwidth |
| 07:14.34 | Neuro_Medivh | any issue I've ever had at wowi has been resolved quickly |
| 07:14.36 | ZorbaTHut | mundy, it's possible, yes. but setting up a good site of that sort takes a lot of time |
| 07:14.42 | ZealotOnAStick | aside from the business competition side of things for ad revenue, pageviews, and the like . . . getting 20 authors to agree to one thing is a miracle. |
| 07:14.42 | ZorbaTHut | hmmm, maybe it's wowui I'm thinking of, not wowi |
| 07:14.46 | Neuro_Medivh | and they've never given me a trojan, unlike curse |
| 07:14.46 | Mundy | yeah i understand that |
| 07:14.47 | ZorbaTHut | the sites look kind of similar, heh |
| 07:14.54 | Mundy | i know it'd take a big investment initially |
| 07:14.59 | Mundy | but anything worth doing usually does |
| 07:14.59 | Fisker- | stupid bethesda is stuuuupid |
| 07:15.07 | ZorbaTHut | mundy, well, here's the problem as I see it |
| 07:15.17 | Fisker- | Fallout 3 for Xbox leaked! |
| 07:15.18 | Fisker- | "durr pc piracy durrrrrrrrr" |
| 07:15.25 | ZorbaTHut | anyone who has the skills, finances, and motivation to set up a not-for-profit wow interface site also has the skills, finances, and motivation to set up a for-profit site |
| 07:15.32 | ZorbaTHut | that will probably be, unsurprisingly, more profitable |
| 07:15.39 | Mundy | yeah true i guess |
| 07:15.55 | Mundy | if only money didnt exist!! |
| 07:15.58 | ZorbaTHut | I've considered it myself, but I eventually concluded that, instead of spending a lot of time thanklessly not making money, I could instead spend a lot of time thanklessly making money |
| 07:15.58 | Tem | er |
| 07:16.02 | ZealotOnAStick | Fisker- - some new link on this, or the same old news from like Thursday? |
| 07:16.06 | Neuro_Medivh | money is great. I buy stuff with it |
| 07:16.08 | Tem | did beta just poof? |
| 07:16.16 | Tekkub | yes |
| 07:16.16 | Mundy | (sarcasm) |
| 07:16.33 | Tekkub | ZorbaTHut, the moment you bring money in, you have obligation |
| 07:16.40 | Tekkub | do it for free, you can leave at any time |
| 07:16.45 | Fisker- | http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/10/13/bethesda-deals-with-pirates/#more-11393 |
| 07:16.51 | Fisker- | Bethesda Is Tired Of Spending Money Supporting Software Pirates |
| 07:16.55 | ZorbaTHut | tekkub, I disagree with that |
| 07:16.58 | Fisker- | I didn't know Xbox support was free |
| 07:17.03 | ZorbaTHut | the moment you have people relying on you, you have obligation |
| 07:17.04 | Neuro_Medivh | Tekkub, Tem, no, Northrend is still up... PTR is down |
| 07:17.06 | End | Tem: I got disconnected briefly from live if that helps any |
| 07:17.09 | Tekkub | that obligation also turns it into a job, which can negate the "fun" part |
| 07:17.14 | Tem | I got DCed |
| 07:17.15 | End | it could be network issues |
| 07:17.18 | Tem | then couldn't log in |
| 07:17.22 | Tem | but it came back |
| 07:17.30 | End | yeah, same but it was live for me |
| 07:17.44 | ZorbaTHut | I wonder how tough it is to find networks interested in advertising on WoW-related sites |
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| 07:18.01 | Tekkub | you can find gold ads easy as shit |
| 07:18.05 | Tekkub | and leveling guide ads |
| 07:18.19 | Tem | if you're after the 18-25 nerd demographic, Wow sites are fucking gold for your ads |
| 07:18.42 | ZorbaTHut | wonder how profitable they are. it'd be kind of neat to make a full-time job out of a WoW UI mod |
| 07:19.12 | Neuro_Medivh | the real money is in Chinese gold farms |
| 07:19.25 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, I'm not sure I want to assist with those :P |
| 07:19.43 | Neuro_Medivh | when Yantis sold his operation to IGE, he got seven figures. And that was PRE-WoW |
| 07:20.32 | Mundy | whos yantis, and what did he do? |
| 07:20.46 | Neuro_Medivh | Yantis was one of the first gold-sellers, back in EQ |
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| 07:21.06 | Neuro_Medivh | he would go to all the top raiding guilds and offer to buy their gold |
| 07:21.15 | Neuro_Medivh | then sold it on his website for a markup |
| 07:21.39 | ZorbaTHut | I wonder what gold prices would stabilize at if Blizzard starting offering Eve-style secure timecard trading |
| 07:21.40 | Mundy | ah |
| 07:21.46 | ZorbaTHut | *started |
| 07:23.44 | Neuro_Medivh | I still remember back in 99 or so, when I let my Ultima Online house decay, my friend told me I was a friggin idiot, cause they were going for 6-700 bucks on ebay |
| 07:27.09 | *** topic/#WoWUIDev by Shirik -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 2.4.x ToC: 20400 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Patch 3.0 Survival Guide: http://www.wowinterface.com/survivalguide.php |
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| 07:27.42 | Fisker- | oh but the patch isn't out tomorrow Shirik ! |
| 07:27.58 | Shirik | ... huh? |
| 07:28.24 | Fisker- | You know, no blue posts saying "patch tomorrow" and because i otherwise can't read that means there's no patch. |
| 07:28.25 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 07:28.43 | ZorbaTHut | I'll be really amused if, in fact, there isn't a patch |
| 07:29.32 | Cairenn | 3.0 AddOn Survival Guide posted on WoWI |
| 07:29.52 | Wobin | ZorbaTHut: Me also =) |
| 07:30.04 | Fisker- | old news are old |
| 07:30.27 | Cairenn | what's to be confused about? |
| 07:30.40 | End | Shirik is just naturally confused |
| 07:30.40 | Shirik | (03:27:00)  -› Shirik changes topic to: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 2.4.x ToC: 20400 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Patch 3.0 Survival Guide: http://www.wowinterface.com/survivalguide.php |
| 07:30.48 | Cairenn | ahhhh .... missed you doing that |
| 07:30.50 | Shirik | :) |
| 07:31.08 | Cairenn | sorry, was busy actually working on it, ya know? :p |
| 07:31.13 | Shirik | :( |
| 07:31.15 | Shirik | I helped! |
| 07:31.19 | Shirik | I filled out auctioneer info |
| 07:31.20 | Cairenn | you did indded |
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| 07:31.40 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10972022333&sid=1 <-owned |
| 07:32.32 | Amarande | Cairenn, do you know if Cartographer is at least functional in 3.0 currently? |
| 07:33.30 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 07:33.42 | AnduinLothar | so what's the script to anchor to cursor now? GameTooltip:SetOwner(UIParent, "ANCHOR_CURSOR"); isn't working |
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| 07:34.15 | Kalroth | did you break it, Anduin? |
| 07:35.19 | Kalroth | Cairenn: Will wowi have an updated version of every addon that I use? And no, I'm not going to say which addons I use! |
| 07:35.30 | Cairenn | Kalroth: rofl |
| 07:36.20 | Kalroth | Fisker-: hot |
| 07:36.22 | Shirik | Kalroth: All of Cairenn's addons have been updated |
| 07:36.27 | Shirik | so if you use any by her |
| 07:36.28 | Shirik | you're good |
| 07:36.33 | Kalroth | Rockin' |
| 07:36.57 | Tekkub | GOD DAMNIT CAIR |
| 07:37.02 | Tekkub | YOU GOT ME SICK |
| 07:37.06 | Shirik|zZz | hahahahahahahaha |
| 07:37.11 | Shirik|zZz | hahaha |
| 07:37.43 | Cairenn | Tekkub: I sowwy :( |
| 07:37.48 | Cairenn | I still sick too |
| 07:37.54 | Shirik|zZz | :( |
| 07:37.55 | Shirik|zZz | go to sleep |
| 07:38.05 | Cairenn | can't, still too much work to do |
| 07:38.14 | Shirik|zZz | same |
| 07:38.17 | Shirik|zZz | switching to laptop brb |
| 07:38.30 | Cairenn | anyone from EU awake and willing to post on the EU UI forum for me? |
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| 07:38.43 | Tekkub | I decided to make a tekkonfig factory for scrollbars |
| 07:38.46 | Cairenn | if yes, please to copy this over? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11162776805&postId=111615624226&sid=1#0 |
| 07:38.49 | Tekkub | not sure why, I hate scrollbars |
| 07:39.14 | Fisker- | sure |
| 07:39.39 | Cairenn | kd3: you awake? if so, please feel free to add it to your PSA as well? |
| 07:40.12 | Tekkub | tomorrow will be a good day to drug yourself up and stay in bed |
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| 07:40.26 | Kalroth | Cairenn: best link ever! |
| 07:40.36 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=6178090396&postId=61774455863&sid=1#0 |
| 07:40.49 | Cairenn | Fisker-: thanks luv :) |
| 07:40.53 | Shirik | rawr |
| 07:40.55 | Shirik | aw I missed it? |
| 07:43.17 | Fisker- | damn people are raging :P |
| 07:43.23 | Fisker- | "zomg lag made me not get bear mount etc." |
| 07:43.29 | Kalroth | haha |
| 07:43.41 | Fisker- | Must say that if i wanted a bear mount i would probably have started a couple of months ago instead now :P |
| 07:43.58 | Fisker- | instead of* |
| 07:45.25 | Kalroth | Fisker-: I bumped it! |
| 07:47.00 | Fisker- | But it was already in the top? :P |
| 07:47.07 | Kalroth | Not important. |
| 07:47.32 | Mundy | pre-wotlk patch is tonight right? |
| 07:47.38 | Kalroth | nevcairiel@#?%! |
| 07:47.44 | Kalroth | Bartender4 [Not Updated] |
| 07:47.58 | ZorbaTHut | mundy, 70 minutes from now, approx |
| 07:48.14 | Mundy | oh right |
| 07:48.17 | Mundy | they brough it forward i see |
| 07:48.21 | Mundy | instead of just going for longer |
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| 07:55.21 | Kalroth | Cairenn: the Pitbull you link to seems to be 2.4 still |
| 07:55.41 | Cairenn | hrm, forgot to turn off the link |
| 07:55.45 | Cairenn | thank you |
| 07:56.40 | Kalroth | Same with Quartz, but I haven't tested it though - the toc just says 20400 and it was last updated 2 months ago .p |
| 07:57.08 | Cairenn | turned off as well now, thank you |
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| 07:58.51 | Elkano | Cairenn, I found a small bug on wowi |
| 07:59.32 | Cairenn | Elkano: go ahead and say it here, but also please put it in the bug forum, please? |
| 07:59.56 | Cairenn | because we're gonna be crazy busy the next few days, so posting makes sure we don't forget about it |
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| 08:01.41 | Elkano | in the "my addons" comments list, I've got a comment that whose date was shown as "Today 12:06 AM" yesterday, "Yesterday 12:06 AM" today. That's fine so far. But on the project page, the comment was dated "Yesterday 12:06 AM" yesterday and "10-13-2008, 12:06 AM" today. |
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| 08:02.19 | Shirik | how did you notice that |
| 08:02.35 | Elkano | so it seems like there is a bug calculating the shown date string on the project page if the comment was posted around 12 AM (since other comments posted yesterday show the correct date) |
| 08:02.38 | Shirik | I can barely even pay attention to the content of the message, much less remember the dates >< |
| 08:03.11 | Elkano | well, Shirik, I tend to notice useless stuff and miss the obvious ^^ |
| 08:03.45 | Neuro_Medivh | sigh, why does GetScreenWidth return a different value during addon-loading than after? |
| 08:04.18 | Elkano | maybe scaling not applied, yet? |
| 08:04.39 | Amarande | hmm, do I have an hour to squeeze in my cooking daily for today before the patch hits or do dailies reset at 5am Eastern? |
| 08:04.49 | *** topic/#WoWUIDev by Shirik -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.0.x ToC: 30000 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Patch 3.0 Survival Guide: http://www.wowinterface.com/survivalguide.php |
| 08:05.19 | Neuro_Medivh | Elkano, any way to apply it manually, or find out what the scaling will be? |
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| 08:06.20 | Neuro_Medivh | oh, btw Elkano, quick q for you about EBB.. if i uncheck "Show Anchor", how the hell do I turn it back on, beyond just restoring defaults? |
| 08:07.07 | Neuro_Medivh | you have two completely different menu systems, it's very confusing |
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| 08:10.01 | Elkano | two? I only have one... |
| 08:10.44 | Elkano | it's only that via the anchors you only acces that groups options where via the fubar button/chat command you acces the whole menu including the menus for all groups |
| 08:11.34 | Neuro_Medivh | Ok, that answered my question then... I have to go to Group 1 to find the 'Show Anchor' option |
| 08:11.58 | Elkano | and to answer your question: alt-click a bar from that group, check "Show Anchor" via the main menu (/ebb config or clicking the FuBar button), click the group in the FuBar buttons tooltip... you choose |
| 08:12.08 | Neuro_Medivh | thx |
| 08:12.26 | Mundy | is it possible to change opacity of actionbars on macro conditions? |
| 08:12.31 | Mundy | dom enables you to just hide/show |
| 08:12.36 | Neuro_Medivh | oh, one more q, is there any option to remove the "Example Blessing" |
| 08:13.14 | Elkano | the "blessing of demonstration" isn't shown if either the group is showing something else or the anchor is hidden |
| 08:14.50 | Neuro_Medivh | well, now I can hide the anchor without worrying about finding it again =) |
| 08:16.04 | cladhaire | so I slept TERRIBLY last night |
| 08:16.15 | cladhaire | i was afraid I wouldn't wake up (my alarm wouldn't work or something) |
| 08:16.19 | cladhaire | so naturally I woke up every hour =/ |
| 08:19.37 | haste | I slept damn well, but my alam didn't work |
| 08:19.39 | haste | so good morning! |
| 08:21.22 | Tekkub | kd3.... |
| 08:21.23 | Tekkub | What mods need to be updated? |
| 08:21.24 | Tekkub | Check for updates to ALL of your mods! |
| 08:21.26 | Tekkub | BAD MONKEY |
| 08:21.43 | Tekkub | don't tell people to mass update on patch day, tell them to only update that which broke |
| 08:21.45 | Neuro_Medivh | what's the new TOC, 30200? |
| 08:22.05 | Neuro_Medivh | er, nm, that's 3.2 |
| 08:22.24 | Neuro_Medivh | 30000 then? |
| 08:24.46 | cladhaire | 30000 |
| 08:29.19 | Neuro_Medivh | Cairenn, I know several of those "Not Updated" mods ARE updated.. I assume you mean Not Updated on WoWI |
| 08:29.41 | Cairenn | we still have work to do on it |
| 08:29.51 | Neuro_Medivh | ah |
| 08:30.18 | Neuro_Medivh | I'll probably use this as a good excuse to delete my entire interface and start fresh |
| 08:30.30 | Cairenn | and, same as last time, it'll continue to be updated over the next week or so |
| 08:31.39 | Neuro_Medivh | btw, how was Blizzcon Cairenn? |
| 08:31.49 | Cairenn | good |
| 08:31.56 | Cairenn | exhausting, crazy busy, but good |
| 08:31.59 | Neuro_Medivh | Did you get Pally Bubble or Frostmourne? |
| 08:32.07 | Cairenn | Frostmourne |
| 08:32.11 | Neuro_Medivh | woot |
| 08:32.17 | Neuro_Medivh | Frostmourne >>> Pally bubble |
| 08:32.21 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 08:35.57 | Neuro_Medivh | interesting... |
| 08:35.59 | sylvanaar | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=21063.0 |
| 08:36.04 | Neuro_Medivh | http://tech.yahoo.com/news/nm/20081013/tc_nm/us_intellectualproperty_law |
| 08:36.37 | Neuro_Medivh | "The law creates an intellectual property czar who will report directly to the president on how to better protect copyrights both domestically and internationally." |
| 08:36.49 | sylvanaar | zzzz |
| 08:36.53 | Neuro_Medivh | I wonder at the term "intellectual property czar" |
| 08:38.01 | Fisker- | ~wowalert |
| 08:38.02 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US), http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) |
| 08:38.13 | Fisker- | teehee |
| 08:38.24 | Fisker- | it's funny how EU "confirms" it earlier than US |
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| 08:41.14 | Tekkub | well, it's not *really* earlier because they're in a different time zone |
| 08:42.32 | Fisker- | What do you mean? |
| 08:42.42 | Fisker- | US haven't said "Zomg patch tomorrow" |
| 08:42.42 | cladhaire | its tomorrow here already |
| 08:42.44 | Fisker- | but EU have |
| 08:42.44 | cladhaire | :P |
| 08:43.23 | Tekkub | Blizz is on what, Z-8? so they got 8 hours after EU announces that they could announce and still have done it before EU did |
| 08:43.52 | cladhaire | psycho :P |
| 08:44.06 | Tekkub | on that note, bedtime |
| 08:44.09 | Fisker- | night |
| 08:44.20 | Fisker- | But i'm talking about writing it before realms being shut down |
| 08:45.14 | Neuro_Medivh | so now that there will be a barber shop... what's next? Tattoo parlour? |
| 08:45.52 | Fisker- | Dance Studio |
| 08:45.52 | Mundy | ouch |
| 08:46.30 | cladhaire | Dance Studio is going to rawk |
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| 08:52.48 | Mundy | is there a very simple mod that just hides the default buff display |
| 08:52.56 | Mundy | or even moves it? |
| 08:54.39 | Cairenn | wheee, net split! |
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| 08:58.30 | Fisker- | http://www.techamok.com/pics/08/oct/stone.jpg |
| 08:58.32 | Fisker- | that seems about right |
| 08:59.12 | Mundy | love how people are just going ballistic in trade at the moment |
| 08:59.35 | Elkano | Cairenn, on http://www.wowinterface.com/survivalguide.php I don't think you need SharedMedia ^^ especialy since you linked to SharedMedia-Blizzard, with is something else |
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| 08:59.54 | Cairenn | hrm, I may have linked the wrong one |
| 09:00.14 | Elkano | I don't think that there is a WotLK version, especialy since it's not needed |
| 09:00.52 | Cairenn | I'll look at it again tomorrow (today) once I've had some sleep ;) |
| 09:01.53 | Elkano | good idea ^^ you'll most likely have a 'funny' day once the servers go live again... |
| 09:02.03 | Cairenn | yeah really .... |
| 09:02.37 | Elkano | btw, is that page automaticaly or manualy created? |
| 09:02.49 | Cairenn | manually |
| 09:03.25 | Elkano | ok ^^ |
| 09:03.36 | Cairenn | why? |
| 09:04.00 | Fisker- | It's made automatically |
| 09:04.23 | Neuro_Medivh | http://www.datamancer.net/archbishop/archbishop.htm <--- So pretty |
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| 09:05.22 | Elkano | just wondered :) though I think you can remove the whole Ace stuff since it's done via Curse, at least for the upcoming days |
| 09:06.54 | Cairenn | they're still too much in transition atm, imo |
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| 09:14.18 | Cairenn | hehehehe: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18549 |
| 09:16.30 | Elkano | 5 & 9 are my favs ^^ |
| 09:17.02 | Kalroth | I'm torn #9, I like sexy underwear, but I hate gun. |
| 09:17.05 | Kalroth | torn on* |
| 09:17.13 | Kalroth | guns* |
| 09:17.13 | Kalroth | SIGH |
| 09:18.17 | Cairenn | I bet you guys have probably already seen this, but I'm still trying to finish wading through my emails & PMs and only just found it: http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/10/steelseries-wow-mmo-gaming-mouse-makes-wasting-your-life-that-mu/ |
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| 09:19.26 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=6178320502&sid=1 <-wtfail |
| 09:19.38 | Fisker- | aww |
| 09:19.48 | Fisker- | i won't say "old" just because you were on blizzcon |
| 09:19.49 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 09:20.05 | Cairenn | exactly |
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| 09:20.43 | Kalroth | Be nice Fisker, Cairenn isn't old! |
| 09:23.06 | Mundy | what time GMT are the realms expected to be up? |
| 09:23.18 | Fisker- | What realms, EU? |
| 09:23.21 | Fisker- | 16:00 GMT |
| 09:23.23 | Mundy | US, sorry |
| 09:23.31 | Fisker- | awright |
| 09:23.39 | Fisker- | 21:00 GMT |
| 09:23.41 | Fisker- | i believe |
| 09:23.51 | Fisker- | 22:00 if you mean BST |
| 09:24.39 | Mundy | thanks |
| 09:25.02 | Mundy | i dont know why blizzard dont use GMT time or convert the maint times depending on the current systems timezone |
| 09:25.12 | Mundy | it wouldnt be hard o_0 |
| 09:25.36 | ZorbaTHut | mundy, I think it would lead to confusion - people arguing over what time it says |
| 09:25.58 | Neuro_Medivh | btw, saw some show this evening with one of the computer techs playing WoW |
| 09:26.13 | cbreak | relative time ftw. |
| 09:29.02 | ZealotOnAStick | If you watch "Chuck" I've been impressed with their product placement. Someone on that show's staff knows is damn good, is probably a geek, and if they haven't worked at a Best Buy, they've managed realistic enough research to get it damn right. |
| 09:30.10 | ZealotOnAStick | Their non-spy government tech supercomputer/surveillance stuff is ludicrous of course (the Intersect's monitor is an old Macintosh?), but the gaming, the store displays and merchandising . . . |
| 09:30.40 | Neuro_Medivh | I think I saw the first episode of that, and thought "Wow, this is reeeeally cheesy" |
| 09:30.50 | ZealotOnAStick | It got way better. |
| 09:31.13 | Neuro_Medivh | Heroes has gotten gotten better as well.. last season was bleh, this one fairly good so far |
| 09:31.25 | Neuro_Medivh | s/gotten gotten/gotten/ |
| 09:31.25 | ZealotOnAStick | Enh. I dunno. |
| 09:32.19 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm kind of waiting for someone other than Syler or Peter to DO anything, though the end of last night's episode showed promising progression. |
| 09:32.27 | Neuro_Medivh | those two are the natural foils... both super supers |
| 09:32.53 | Neuro_Medivh | though, honestly, Peter should be able to wipe the floor with Syler at any time, thanks to Hiro's ability |
| 09:33.20 | ZealotOnAStick | I want Hiro to wake up and stop letting himself be used. |
| 09:33.35 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:33.38 | Neuro_Medivh | his ability is by far the most powerful |
| 09:33.44 | Cairenn | and the day hasn't even started yet |
| 09:34.01 | ZealotOnAStick | Down for maintenance stuff/blizz took them down, or down because they're slammed? |
| 09:34.10 | Neuro_Medivh | prolly slammed |
| 09:34.16 | Neuro_Medivh | but possibly maint. |
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| 09:34.27 | ZealotOnAStick | Heroes, Season 3: Parkman gets high in the desert. |
| 09:34.31 | Cairenn | I'm thinking slammed, since I don't get a maint message, I get a "failed to connect" |
| 09:35.09 | ZealotOnAStick | hmm. Doesn't seem to be a localized DNS thing, taking ages to respond for me too. |
| 09:35.38 | ZealotOnAStick | Also, Chrome's error messages bite ass. I have to load Firefox to get a useful response. |
| 09:38.08 | Cairenn | okay, stick a fork in me, I'm done ... everything I need to do isn't, but at this point I'll make more mistakes than anything else ... night folks, see you in a few hours |
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| 09:43.00 | Kalroth | You can fork me anytime, norgs *wink*wink*nudge*nudge* |
| 09:44.13 | Kalroth | Noo, not the htorlaK |
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| 10:10.48 | Beg | Heya! I was wondering if there's a tutorial/example on how to list all events that occur? |
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| 10:13.25 | Jinivus | Wow patching atm? |
| 10:13.28 | haste | you have the event list on wowwiki |
| 10:14.21 | Fisker- | Jinivus how should we know if your WoW is patching? |
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| 10:24.21 | Beg | Yer, I found it.. Just figured i should start with Wowui this morning.. So didnt know how to list what actually happend or how to even see if a event is called, but i figured now :o |
| 10:24.26 | Beg | Tough it isnt working |
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| 10:30.19 | sacarasc | in the survival guide "Not Updated" means no updated files have been released by that project yet? |
| 10:31.40 | Elkano | at least they found none I think ^^ |
| 10:32.46 | ZorbaTHut | I'm gonna kind of miss the giant stone login-screen arch. that's been in WoW since the beginning |
| 10:35.19 | sacarasc | but you get a dragon instead! |
| 10:36.54 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, but the dragon's prescripted |
| 10:36.58 | Xinhuan | sacarasc: not updated doesn't actually mean its not updated ;p |
| 10:37.12 | ZorbaTHut | he flies around, and he roars, and he flies around, and he roars |
| 10:37.15 | Xinhuan | for some addons, it just means a new version is being written |
| 10:37.17 | ZorbaTHut | I kind of liked the sedate gate better |
| 10:37.21 | Xinhuan | such as Bartender4 > bartender3 |
| 10:37.25 | Xinhuan | and Omen3 > Omen2 |
| 10:37.35 | sacarasc | ah, ok |
| 10:37.51 | Xinhuan | so the survival guide isn't really accurate in that sense |
| 10:38.00 | Xinhuan | but not wrong either |
| 10:38.01 | sacarasc | but tomorrow, when I go raiding, how will i know that i'm overaggroing everyone? (other than the dying) |
| 10:38.08 | Xinhuan | you download omen3 :) |
| 10:38.35 | zenzio | is Omen3 up on WoWI? |
| 10:38.38 | Xinhuan | no |
| 10:39.10 | Xinhuan | will be up soon |
| 10:39.50 | cbreak | just get a few rogues |
| 10:40.00 | cbreak | hmm... or is tricks of the trade post 70? |
| 10:40.20 | ZorbaTHut | sac, from what I hear about threat changes, the answer is "if your tank is not ridiculously incompetent, you're not overaggroing" |
| 10:40.23 | Xinhuan | for me to upload omen3, i would first need to ninja the omen project from antiarc to me first ;p |
| 10:40.31 | ZorbaTHut | threat management is apparently largely not a problem in 3.0 |
| 10:41.53 | sacarasc | yeah, i dunno about our tanks (i jest of course... for most of them anyway) |
| 10:42.32 | ZealotOnAStick | project on WoWI or on CF/Wowace? |
| 10:42.57 | Fisker- | Use the built-in threat meter |
| 10:42.57 | Fisker- | >:3 |
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| 10:47.23 | Xinhuan | ZealotOnAStick: both |
| 10:47.45 | Xinhuan | there is no built-in threat meter, unless you mean the one that just says 100% on your targetframe ;p |
| 10:48.01 | Maldivia | percent in tooltip |
| 10:48.12 | Xinhuan | i wouldn't call that a threat meter hehe |
| 10:48.45 | Maldivia | why? |
| 10:49.55 | Xinhuan | for the same reason why i wouldn't call a tooltip that displays "total damage i've done since combat started" a damage meter |
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| 10:50.49 | Maldivia | Xinhuan: why not? it meters your damage - just because it doesn't have everyone elses damage doesn't mean it's not a mter |
| 10:51.09 | Xinhuan | its not what everyone's "general idea" of a mater is |
| 10:51.12 | Xinhuan | meter* |
| 10:51.28 | cbreak | in general, humans are dumb. |
| 10:51.55 | Maldivia | so the themometer next to me, is not a meter, because it only shows the temperature in my room, and not comparative values of what it is at your place etc? |
| 10:52.43 | Xinhuan | i would think everyone's idea of what a damage meter is vastly different of what everyone's idea of a thermometer is |
| 10:52.54 | duke2 | is there an easy way to show something like the built in/SCT floating text? |
| 10:53.00 | Elkano | hmmm... thermoinch... ;) |
| 10:53.12 | Xinhuan | a damage meter that doesn't show anyone else's damage wouldn't be very useful data |
| 10:53.23 | Xinhuan | unlike a thermometer |
| 10:53.35 | cbreak | depends |
| 10:53.47 | cbreak | it's useful enough to compare to past and future performance |
| 10:54.03 | duke2 | or different specs |
| 10:54.20 | Maldivia | yeah, personally I'm interested in my own values for damage and healing, doesn't really care if person A does more or less than me |
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| 10:55.39 | Xinhuan | the so called "built-in threat meter" of blizzard's is only usable if you don't use a unitframe addon too |
| 10:56.20 | Zeksie | heh |
| 10:56.31 | Zeksie | do they reallise noone will see it? |
| 10:56.43 | Xinhuan | although Zeksie, it might be handy if you added in an option to show "party's % threat" on your current target |
| 10:56.57 | Fisker- | Zeksie my sexy friend |
| 10:56.59 | Xinhuan | next to their hp value or something |
| 10:57.08 | Xinhuan | or next to their name |
| 10:57.17 | Xinhuan | PlayerName [80%] |
| 10:57.28 | Xinhuan | to indicate that person has 80% threat on your current target |
| 10:57.44 | Zeksie | yes, will be doing something like this, but last time I was messing around with the threat stuff, it was a bit flakey, and couldn't get many ppl to sit in a group with me for 4 hours at a stretch :) |
| 10:57.45 | Maldivia | Xinhuan: well, unitframes will probably copy the bahaviour - personally I like it :) |
| 10:57.59 | Maldivia | Zeksie: go go, AV :) |
| 10:58.05 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 10:58.14 | Xinhuan | AV doesn't exist on Beta |
| 10:58.22 | Nom- | yay for being in beta... PTR offline, but others still online, so I can go finish my addon |
| 10:58.23 | Xinhuan | or at least, there are no games up because nobody queues it |
| 10:58.26 | Maldivia | true - but on live, AV is the perfect spot to work on raid unit frames :) |
| 10:58.29 | Zeksie | it's high on my todo list anyway |
| 10:59.02 | Maldivia | most of my raid unit development have happened in either real raids or in AVs :) |
| 10:59.13 | zenzio | I for one still use the stock UI unit frames |
| 10:59.24 | Zeksie | just added neat thing for PWS type shielding, shows a bar like the hot bar to show how much more absorbing it has left. |
| 10:59.24 | Maldivia | but people got pissed at me when reloading my UI and doing nothing for 30 secs in a boss fight :) |
| 11:00.12 | Zeksie | Maldivia: same, but my raid leader was very patient and knew how much he relied on my mods :) |
| 11:00.25 | Maldivia | Zeksie: I was the raid leader, so :) |
| 11:00.31 | Zeksie | make them dependant on you, and you can get away with anything :) |
| 11:00.32 | ZorbaTHut | I have a crash bug that I can only duplicate on PTR |
| 11:00.33 | Zeksie | oh. heh |
| 11:00.36 | ZorbaTHut | I wish they'd re-open PTR :( |
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| 11:00.54 | Maldivia | after first patch: 3.0.1 - 8874 |
| 11:01.20 | Elkano | ZorbaTHut, only on PTR but not on beta? |
| 11:01.25 | ZorbaTHut | elkano, yup |
| 11:01.29 | ZorbaTHut | and no, I don't know why |
| 11:01.32 | Esine | btw, are there videos of the blizzcon panels online anywhere? |
| 11:01.36 | ZorbaTHut | if I did I'd probably have fixed it already ; |
| 11:01.37 | Elkano | then maybe it's fixed? |
| 11:01.37 | Nom- | gah |
| 11:01.37 | ZorbaTHut | ;) |
| 11:01.47 | Nom- | Still got taint problems, I don't know how to fix this :( |
| 11:01.53 | ZorbaTHut | I'm pretty sure it's a bug in my code |
| 11:02.09 | ZorbaTHut | it was fiddly enough to get it working that I suspect the reason I can't get it to happen on Beta is just because I wasn't able to duplicate it properly |
| 11:02.22 | ZorbaTHut | (working = it was fiddly to get the bug duplicating reliably) |
| 11:02.47 | Maldivia | Esine: there are some on youtube |
| 11:02.54 | Nom- | It seems that calling CalendarOpenEvent() when receiving the event "CALENDAR_OPEN_EVENT" causes a taint problem |
| 11:02.59 | Esine | no (official) higher quality ones? :x |
| 11:03.24 | Maldivia | doubt it |
| 11:03.32 | Esine | :[ |
| 11:04.02 | Maldivia | after second patch: 3.0.2 - 9056 |
| 11:04.17 | Maldivia | interesting |
| 11:05.00 | Maldivia | so live is an earlier build than latest ptr? |
| 11:10.12 | Fisker- | Could have issues that they didn't have time to fix for live |
| 11:10.28 | Fisker- | Unless they have like a second 3.0.2 patch |
| 11:12.23 | Stanzilla | 3.0.3 will be next week imo |
| 11:12.35 | Fisker- | Might even see some emergency patches |
| 11:12.42 | Fisker- | But yeah we'll probably patch like crazy |
| 11:13.16 | Maldivia | well... 2.0 had 12 public patches or so :) |
| 11:14.05 | Maldivia | or well, 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 12 I remember |
| 11:14.25 | [SW]Dodge | @blizz: l2count ;D |
| 11:14.49 | cbreak | at least it's monotonically increasing. |
| 11:15.05 | Nom- | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/98228 <-- anyone have any ideas why this is causing a taint error ? |
| 11:15.30 | Nom- | taint error is happening at line 8 |
| 11:15.53 | [SW]Dodge | maybe you are not allowed to call CalendarOpenEvent? |
| 11:16.02 | Nom- | Yes, I am |
| 11:16.09 | Nom- | The first call works |
| 11:16.11 | Fisker- | but i'm putting my foot down |
| 11:16.13 | Nom- | Calls using /script work |
| 11:16.27 | Nom- | But when you make that call during the processing of that event: bam... taint error |
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| 11:19.37 | Zeksie | Nom-: lots of things call taints all the time and they're perfectly ok, or do you mean it's giving an action blocked? |
| 11:20.55 | Nom- | Zeksie: Action blocked |
| 11:21.18 | Nom- | 19:13:13 Scan 2 |
| 11:21.19 | Nom- | 19:13:13 Interface action failed because of an AddOn |
| 11:24.33 | Zeksie | think you'll have to check the taint log to see 'what' gets tainted from that call. |
| 11:24.53 | Zeksie | cos it might not be that that's blocking, but something after it ? |
| 11:25.28 | Nom- | Checking, just to be sure |
| 11:26.26 | Nom- | 10/14 19:25:45.553 An action was blocked because of taint from CalendarExport - CalendarOpenEvent() |
| 11:26.30 | Nom- | 10/14 19:25:45.553 Interface\AddOns\CalendarExport\CalendarExport.lua:10 |
| 11:28.48 | Beg | Is there any guide for WoW ui, for experienced programers but LUA/XML? |
| 11:29.00 | Zeksie | Ok.. I suspect the first does not block because the event is not open, so it just skips out of the func without really doing anything. But the second call it's already open, and that's what's not allowed. for whatever reason. |
| 11:29.01 | Diskmaster | Okay wait what |
| 11:29.20 | Diskmaster | 2.4.3 -> 3.0.1 first? |
| 11:29.44 | Maldivia | yep |
| 11:29.55 | Maldivia | and then 3.0.1 to 3.0.2 |
| 11:29.58 | Zeksie | Maybe making calendar funcs protected is their way of stopping gold seller spam as they said they'd do 'somehow' |
| 11:30.36 | Beg | Is there a restriction on how/what to output when (I guess I am doing right) typing out all events that occur? http://nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=21071 Here? |
| 11:30.42 | Zeksie | if that's the case, i suspect they'll change these funcs a bit, to make less of them protected and open up the API for what you're trying to do. |
| 11:30.56 | Zeksie | but if you're trying to do a save/restore type mod. i doubt the restore would be possible |
| 11:31.50 | Zeksie | Beg: what do u mean restriction? |
| 11:32.30 | Beg | I don't know, it doesn't output anything, so i'm thinking i'm violating some lua/xml Rule? :p |
| 11:32.43 | Beg | it only output the Hello world when loaded, nothing else |
| 11:32.55 | Zeksie | you've not registerd any events for OnEvent to fire on |
| 11:32.55 | Nom- | lol the TBC intro movie still gives me goosebumps |
| 11:33.03 | Beg | Ohh, :P |
| 11:33.12 | Zeksie | after the HelloWorld() do a self:RegisterAllEvents() |
| 11:33.23 | Beg | Then i'm gonna look for that :) |
| 11:33.33 | Beg | Thanks |
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| 11:34.12 | Beg | Ow, there it is! Thank ya, I'll keep in touch if I get on some more trouble |
| 11:34.25 | Diskmaster | That new login screen is unbearably cool. |
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| 11:34.44 | Nom- | Zeksie: It's an export mod... hence the name |
| 11:34.59 | Fisker- | the bear quest in Storm Peaks is unBEARable Diskmaster |
| 11:35.00 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 11:35.13 | Nom- | ok so... hmm i'll dig through the blizz code again to see if i can decipher any more |
| 11:35.48 | Nom- | The issue, as far as I can see, is it's only invalid to call CalendarOpenEvent *then* |
| 11:35.55 | Nom- | if i do it manually from the command line it works fine |
| 11:36.00 | Nom- | even many times in a row :( |
| 11:37.03 | Beg | Zeksie, It's ALIVE! Thank you! :) |
| 11:37.09 | Zeksie | :) |
| 11:40.30 | zenzio | Fisker-: please repeat that one in Thunder_Child's presence |
| 11:42.31 | Fisker- | >:3? |
| 11:44.19 | zenzio | he loves puns |
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| 11:54.20 | Adys | anyone knows if the AQ or engineering mounts count as a mount for the 50mount achievement? |
| 11:54.26 | Adys | (engi=flying machine) |
| 11:54.35 | Beg | Adys, I am 99% sure they do |
| 11:55.20 | Adys | [13:00:53] <@Adys> do the AQ mounts count btw mxs? i didnt check.. |
| 11:55.20 | Adys | [13:01:40] <mxs> neither did I, they used to, but I think they fixed it |
| 11:55.50 | Adys | maybe someone on US can check? |
| 12:00.18 | ZealotOnAStick | How? Servers aren't up for another 9 hours, IF they're up on time. |
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| 12:01.38 | Fisker- | But of course they are up on time |
| 12:02.23 | sacarasc | they will be 9 hours early! |
| 12:02.54 | ZealotOnAStick | Fisker-: lol. I remember we lost basically a day and a half of productive game time on 2.0. |
| 12:03.34 | Adys | ZealotOnAStick: oh |
| 12:03.44 | Adys | I dont know what time it is :p |
| 12:03.48 | Adys | in the US that is |
| 12:05.16 | sacarasc | l2timezone |
| 12:06.15 | ZealotOnAStick | nah, that's one of the non-porn things the internetz are for. |
| 12:06.38 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 12:06.42 | cladhaire | anyone want to read something for me? |
| 12:06.47 | cladhaire | tell me how I come across in it? |
| 12:07.04 | cladhaire | http://pastey.net/98229 |
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| 12:11.25 | Elkano | could anyone provide me with a link to an ingame screenshot of the ruRU client? |
| 12:11.53 | Zeksie | cladhaire: it's fine. very posh. perhaps a little techy in parts if you're talking to a non-computerish type |
| 12:12.05 | cladhaire | Zeksie: its written to the IT department |
| 12:12.12 | Adys | aye Zeksie, but it looks good |
| 12:12.17 | Zeksie | is good then |
| 12:12.26 | cladhaire | they're basically saying I can't control my own copies of wordpress and gallery |
| 12:12.35 | cladhaire | and I'm like lolwut? |
| 12:12.40 | Zeksie | heh |
| 12:13.26 | cladhaire | They don't like me |
| 12:13.47 | Elkano | clad, best fix: become the man in charge in the IT dep ;) |
| 12:13.58 | cladhaire | ha! been there, done that. |
| 12:14.20 | Zeksie | t using outdated debian packages don't really |
| 12:14.20 | Zeksie | 40protect you from anything.. |
| 12:14.24 | Zeksie | grammar |
| 12:14.30 | Zeksie | -don't +doesn't |
| 12:14.45 | cladhaire | oh, mistype |
| 12:14.45 | cladhaire | heh |
| 12:15.48 | Zeksie | also saying 'Having |
| 12:15.48 | Zeksie | 49worked in IT as both an administrative' |
| 12:15.49 | Zeksie | twice |
| 12:15.59 | cladhaire | damnit. |
| 12:16.32 | Fisker- | DON'T BRING THE BOATS INTO THIS |
| 12:17.30 | Adys | http://devcub.com/~adys/js.png |
| 12:17.33 | Adys | interesting patchnote |
| 12:17.49 | Fisker- | Patch 3.0.3 contains javascript support |
| 12:18.47 | zenzio | somehow that picture reminds me of WindowBlinds |
| 12:19.19 | Atriace | Isn't it Linux? |
| 12:20.01 | zenzio | doesn't matter what it is, it still reminds me of WindowBlinds :-p |
| 12:20.20 | Atriace | boo, you're no fun. |
| 12:20.43 | Adys | [15:18:49] <@Adys> debian, but using ubuntu's wine since debian is 4 versions out of date which i think is why i get some problems with js and so |
| 12:20.45 | Atriace | er... I mean, touché |
| 12:20.54 | Atriace | SCORE! |
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| 12:32.56 | ckknight | Cairenn|afk: anti-poke |
| 12:33.29 | Chompers | dont let that touch the poke |
| 12:33.32 | Chompers | bad things happen |
| 12:33.48 | batrick | compared to toher classes it doesn't seem blizzard was very imaginative with mage's glyphs, particularly the minor glyphs |
| 12:34.40 | zenzio | do we get glyphs today? |
| 12:34.52 | batrick | yes |
| 12:35.10 | Chompers | woo |
| 12:35.16 | batrick | e.g. look at this rogue _minor_ glyph: Glyph of Vanish (Req. lvl. 22) - Increases your movement speed by 30% while the Vanish effect is active. |
| 12:35.34 | zenzio | hm, I'll have to look up the warrior glyphs then :-o |
| 12:35.47 | batrick | mmo-champion has a full listing in today's post |
| 12:35.56 | zenzio | cheers :) |
| 12:36.09 | cladhaire | when are servers meant to come back up? |
| 12:36.17 | ckknight | 2PM PST |
| 12:36.29 | batrick | im going to have trouble picking minor glyphs for my mage, only sure fire one is the slow fall glyph |
| 12:36.44 | cladhaire | thanks ckknight |
| 12:36.49 | batrick | the others are all so equally bad i can't decide |
| 12:36.51 | cladhaire | gives me a bit of time, but not all that much =( |
| 12:37.23 | batrick | you havea bout 8 hours clad :) |
| 12:38.05 | Chompers | can't wait for the chaos to start |
| 12:38.12 | Chompers | patch days are awesome |
| 12:40.05 | zenzio | "Glyph of Bloodrage (Req. lvl. 15) - Reduces the health cost of your Bloodrage ability by 50%." -- why could they not decrease the cooldown instead x.x |
| 12:43.16 | Maldivia | well, luckily, this patch isn't as bad as 1.x -> 2.x |
| 12:43.41 | Maldivia | (bad, as in number of broken addons) |
| 12:43.45 | batrick | I find it frustrating that glyph of frost ward and glyph of fire ward both require you to have the improved fire ward talent |
| 12:44.04 | batrick | botha re minor glyphs |
| 12:44.07 | zenzio | that does sound odd |
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| 12:45.05 | batrick | a quick run through other classees' glyphs dont seem to have that problem |
| 12:48.40 | Fisker- | Why so US all of the sudden cladhaire ? |
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| 13:01.12 | ZealotOnAStick | minor glyphs aren't initially trainable. |
| 13:01.24 | ZealotOnAStick | it'll take time and luck for inscriptionists to learn them via Minor Inscription Research. |
| 13:01.55 | ZealotOnAStick | unless it's changed on live vs. ptr/beta. |
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| 13:03.37 | Pneumatus | yeh, last word on PTR/Beta was they were discoverable, once every 20 hours or something |
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| 13:05.30 | batrick | 20 hours of what? |
| 13:05.38 | Nom- | 20 hours of casting probably |
| 13:05.40 | Nom- | knowing my luck |
| 13:05.46 | batrick | lol |
| 13:05.52 | [SW]Dodge | batrick: i think real time ;) |
| 13:06.38 | Maldivia | like transmutes, they have a 20hour cooldown |
| 13:10.30 | batrick | now i wish i had bought my T3 cloth shoulders for 8.5k |
| 13:10.37 | ZealotOnAStick | it's a daily "research" quest, with a "high chance" of discovering new minor glyphs |
| 13:10.37 | batrick | why o why did i stop bidding :( |
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| 13:16.17 | p3lim | 40k hp on my PTR druid :p |
| 13:16.48 | p3lim | just soloed one of those 83 elites outside Icecrown Citadel |
| 13:16.56 | Beg | Is there a blank statusbar texture by default? :o |
| 13:17.01 | zenzio | that doesn't sound like PTR, more like beta |
| 13:17.16 | Fisker- | What makes you say that zenzio? |
| 13:17.28 | Fisker- | The 40k HP, the 83 elites or the Icecrown Citadel? |
| 13:17.29 | zenzio | Fisker-: sarcasm. It compels m |
| 13:17.31 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 13:17.31 | zenzio | *me |
| 13:17.32 | p3lim | zenzio: theres several servers? |
| 13:17.47 | zenzio | p3lim: there's a distinction between PTR and beta |
| 13:17.54 | p3lim | oh? |
| 13:18.06 | |pez| | beta has wotlk stuff, ptr doesn't? |
| 13:18.23 | p3lim | Its the EU Coldarra server, same place Ive got my 74 druid |
| 13:18.41 | Fisker- | Coldarra is beta |
| 13:18.43 | ZealotOnAStick | that would be beta. |
| 13:18.46 | ZealotOnAStick | not ptr. |
| 13:18.46 | Fisker- | we can't access PTR's |
| 13:20.25 | p3lim | hm ok then :p |
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| 13:36.19 | schnoggo | happy patch day, everyone! |
| 13:36.43 | schnoggo | me scurries off to update files |
| 13:37.01 | Nom- | Patch night you mean >:( |
| 13:37.19 | Nom- | I'm hoping servers come up early so I can go configure my UI |
| 13:37.28 | Nom- | Not likely though |
| 13:37.43 | ZealotOnAStick | early? |
| 13:37.50 | ZealotOnAStick | BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! |
| 13:42.42 | batrick | not having enough disk space is a real downer |
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| 13:45.17 | Nom- | Disk space is cheap, go get some :) |
| 13:45.37 | Nom- | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 13:45.38 | batrick | i was an idiot and only gave the vista partition on my raptor drive 25 gigs |
| 13:45.39 | Nom- | /dev/md0 1.9T 421G 1.4T 24% /mnt/storage |
| 13:46.16 | Nom- | sif raptor :) |
| 13:46.27 | batrick | i tried to move the installation to my other data drive with 300 gigs free but i keep getting data corruption errors for the mpq files |
| 13:46.31 | batrick | it's pretty wierd |
| 13:46.41 | Nom- | That's not a good sign. |
| 13:46.46 | Nom- | Install again on the bigger drive? |
| 13:46.47 | batrick | indeed :( |
| 13:46.50 | ShaneSveller | hope it's the new one, Batrick. the velociraptor? |
| 13:47.00 | batrick | i attribute all these problems to vista sucking |
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| 13:47.08 | batrick | umm no why? |
| 13:47.23 | Nom- | My personal recommendation - don't bother with 10,000RPM drives - go for 4 x 7200 RPM drives in RAID-5 |
| 13:47.59 | Nom- | You lose some write performance (but it's still faster than a single drive), but reads what what's important for 95% of applications |
| 13:48.01 | ShaneSveller | batrick: I never really liked the earlier Raptor models, since they were all either IDE or SATA1.5Gbps, the 10k doesn't really make up the difference in transfer speeds |
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| 13:48.54 | Nom- | If you don't care about data reliability, got for raid 0, but it's hardly worth it when you have 4 drives |
| 13:49.59 | ZealotOnAStick | Stay the fuck away from AID-0. |
| 13:50.21 | batrick | I think I'm going to need to reinstall WoW today |
| 13:50.30 | batrick | this is going to be a bad day |
| 13:50.35 | Nom- | I made my storage drive a raid-5 array |
| 13:50.48 | Nom- | 3 x 1TB disks => 1.9T useable space |
| 13:51.15 | Nom- | It's very nice ... i've done the whole yank the drive testing, and it rebuilds great |
| 13:51.18 | Nom- | <3 RAID 5 |
| 13:51.30 | ZealotOnAStick | True RAID is fine. |
| 13:51.37 | ZealotOnAStick | AID-0 is stupid. |
| 13:52.04 | Mikk | -0 is very nice for speed |
| 13:52.07 | Mikk | IF you need it |
| 13:52.09 | Mikk | Most don't. |
| 13:52.10 | JoshBorke | RAID-0 is still true raid |
| 13:52.26 | Fisker- | Where's the redudancy? :P |
| 13:52.31 | JoshBorke | and you could always do RAID 0+1 |
| 13:52.32 | Fisker- | redundancy* |
| 13:52.37 | ZealotOnAStick | JoshBorke - untrue, hence my AID connotation. No R without the redundancy. |
| 13:52.48 | Mikk | It's part of the spec, deal with it. |
| 13:53.30 | Mikk | And, as josh said, a RAID-0 can certainly be a part of a RAID-0 + 1 cluster. |
| 13:53.36 | ZealotOnAStick | AID-0 is nice for speed, but the risks are severe for very, very modest gains over what can be achieved with dedicated page partitions on each drive. |
| 13:53.47 | Nom- | Yeah, although it's a waste of disks doing it that way imo |
| 13:53.58 | Mikk | Of course it is. You want -5 :) |
| 13:53.59 | Nom- | Why use 4 disks when 3 will do, and be nearly as reliable |
| 13:54.08 | schnoggo | ouch - apparently I got too late a start today. wowinterface is already struggling speed-wise |
| 13:54.36 | schnoggo | why think about it. get a drobo! :) |
| 13:54.38 | Mikk | Well.. granted, there is one very obvious gain of 0+1. You can yank half the disks and have a complete copy of the system. And plug two new ones in and keep going. |
| 13:55.01 | batrick | fuck my wow install is so messed up, when i use the uninstall tool for vista it thinks the WOTLK files installed on another drive are part of the installation |
| 13:55.12 | Mikk | Which tbh is a sane way of doing e.g. monthly backups these days with drives costing fuckall |
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| 13:55.43 | batrick | Mikk: except often what causes one drive to fail my very well affect all drives |
| 13:55.57 | kneeki | Hey all |
| 13:56.00 | batrick | which is one very good reason you shouldn't rely on RAID to "backup" data |
| 13:56.02 | ShaneSveller | offsite rsync backup ftw |
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| 13:56.15 | Nom- | In a small array, such as 4 disks, anything other than RAID-5 is silly |
| 13:56.23 | malreth | GRRRRWWWWAAAAAAUUUUUUUAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! |
| 13:56.24 | Nom- | RAID-6 was created to deal with larger (12-16) disk arrays |
| 13:56.34 | schnoggo | I've always run tape backups, but the tape cpunt is getting ridiculous. I'll be switching to drive-based (prob a drobo) next month. |
| 13:56.42 | Mikk | ShaneSveller: Now you're assuming that you're in an environment that is OK with pushing their data over long-haul connections =) |
| 13:57.33 | Mikk | drobo is sex |
| 13:57.47 | ShaneSveller | Mikk: off-site is a relative term =) a good friend and I have a VPN and keep about 20GB of storage available to each other for "remote" backups within the same physical neighborhood, so it's reasonably fast. |
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| 13:57.52 | malreth | i wants one too |
| 13:58.15 | schnoggo | and offsite is the suck if you have an async connection. Pushing aout 3 or 4 terabytes over a normal connection is going to make you cry. |
| 13:58.26 | Mikk | ShaneSveller: Aye, now do financial/military grade sensitive stuff and see what they think of even allowing a single bit to leave the perimeter :P |
| 13:58.44 | ShaneSveller | At work we just put in a pair of RAID6 iSCSI arrays |
| 13:58.57 | Nom- | Fibre Channel = win |
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| 13:59.45 | Nom- | iSCSI is nice for storage on the cheap |
| 13:59.49 | Nom- | I must admit |
| 13:59.57 | Nom- | But nothing beats 4Gbps FC |
| 14:00.08 | Mikk | On a related note, since I seem to have backup wizzes here. Windows. Large pluggable USB hard drive. Is there something as sane as rsnapshot for winbloze that I'm not aware of? |
| 14:00.19 | Mikk | Home use |
| 14:00.30 | Nom- | Sure, but you have to pay for it |
| 14:00.38 | Nom- | This is *windows* not *linux* |
| 14:00.44 | Mikk | Define pay :P |
| 14:00.44 | Nom- | You have to pay for near everything |
| 14:00.45 | Wikwocket | I am not familiar with rsnapshot, are you looking for a backup or syncing program? |
| 14:00.58 | Mikk | rsnapshot is incremental backup over rsync |
| 14:01.04 | Mikk | it didnt use to have a name back in teh day |
| 14:01.08 | Josh_Borke | windows has rsync? |
| 14:01.10 | Mikk | no |
| 14:01.12 | ShaneSveller | Mikk: robocopy or xcopy, i forget which, is a poor man's rsync on vista |
| 14:01.18 | Josh_Borke | well there's your problem |
| 14:01.28 | Josh_Borke | i believe it is robocopy |
| 14:01.29 | Mikk | screw you josh :P |
| 14:01.42 | Josh_Borke | Mikk: not until you finish your in-game gui creator :-P |
| 14:01.59 | Wikwocket | I use Syncback Free for backups to USB drives |
| 14:02.15 | Mikk | Well, i don't want rsync. I want a sane backup to drive. PREFERABLY incremental. |
| 14:02.15 | Wikwocket | It will scan folders and just copy new/updated files, etc. Lots of options for a free version. |
| 14:02.20 | Mikk | Oho, nice nice |
| 14:02.24 | ShaneSveller | SyncBack is pretty solid, yeah. |
| 14:02.36 | Wikwocket | Microsoft SyncToy is also free but is kind of braindead 1-click |
| 14:03.30 | Mikk | syncback looks shiny. must try. |
| 14:03.32 | ShaneSveller | at work we've been using Veritas, but that's totally overkill. |
| 14:03.41 | ShaneSveller | and i'm not 100% cool with it |
| 14:04.07 | Mikk | last time i heard of veritas it still raped your performance. havent really looked at it again :P |
| 14:04.25 | ShaneSveller | Mikk: I doubt that's where our bottleneck lies, lol |
| 14:04.51 | ShaneSveller | but we've got some sexy new dual-quads with 16GB of DDR2-1066 coming =D |
| 14:07.36 | kneeki | Is there some way to change the catagory my addon is listed on WoWI? |
| 14:07.42 | kneeki | Or is that only something a mod can do |
| 14:08.23 | Wikwocket | PM a mod, they may be busy today though ;) |
| 14:08.30 | kneeki | Yeah, I'll wait =) |
| 14:08.36 | kneeki | It's not important |
| 14:09.58 | ShaneSveller | do they have drobos with eSATA? |
| 14:12.49 | malreth | ShaneSveller: none that i know of |
| 14:13.24 | ShaneSveller | :-( I'm less intrigued |
| 14:13.48 | p3lim | im disbanding oUF_DruidMana |
| 14:14.00 | p3lim | as its way too easy implementing it directly into the layout now |
| 14:15.26 | ShaneSveller | p3lim: yeah, I suppose it is, at that |
| 14:15.55 | p3lim | http://pastey.net/98233 |
| 14:20.50 | sylvanaar | omg i missed this weekd raid discussion... |
| 14:21.27 | sylvanaar | Raid-0, 0+1, 5, 10 all suck, true story |
| 14:25.02 | Ose | I should be able to use the wotlk beta version of http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/bartender4.aspx on live right? |
| 14:25.11 | Ose | (preparing for patch day) |
| 14:25.45 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11162527028&sid=1 <-nice keylogger post |
| 14:26.25 | Ose | o hai Fisker- |
| 14:26.28 | Ose | why so danish? |
| 14:26.44 | Fisker- | why so norwegian? |
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| 14:27.27 | Shane|Work | ose: live and beta will become one and the same in terms of addons today |
| 14:27.43 | Josh_Borke | why doesn't 3 or 4 ever get the love they deserve |
| 14:27.50 | Shane|Work | ose: anything written for beta will work on live as well as it would on beta after the patch |
| 14:28.02 | Ose | you know, for some of us the patch is tomorrow |
| 14:28.56 | Fisker- | You know, for some of us the patch is tuesday |
| 14:29.01 | Fisker- | err |
| 14:29.02 | Fisker- | thursday |
| 14:29.03 | Wikwocket | But we want to panic about AddOns today! |
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| 14:29.15 | Fisker- | hows blizzcon? |
| 14:29.25 | durcyn | ..... "Sorry, World of Warcraft cannot be installed on a case-sensitive volume." good one, blizzard. |
| 14:29.29 | Josh_Borke | ~lart Fisker- |
| 14:29.30 | purl | brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, Fisker-!" and lops off Fisker-'s head |
| 14:29.50 | Fisker- | why so hostile? :( |
| 14:31.16 | Shirik | that's interesting |
| 14:31.19 | Shirik | tortoise crashed |
| 14:31.52 | Shane|Work | durcyn: really? |
| 14:32.11 | malreth | i wonder what part of "don't talk on your cell phone while driving" my wife doesn't understand |
| 14:32.15 | kneeki | Wow... |
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| 14:32.24 | Fisker- | ooh |
| 14:32.30 | Fisker- | new armory update ~tomorrow |
| 14:32.34 | Syzgyn | oo? |
| 14:32.36 | durcyn | Shane|Work: starting with 3.0.1, it seems. |
| 14:32.37 | kneeki | Why did CTMod team decide to drop CTRA? I don't see it on the main page |
| 14:32.47 | kneeki | I don't see the reasons given anyway. =P |
| 14:32.55 | Shane|Work | kneeki: people still use CTRA? |
| 14:33.01 | Shane|Work | Fisker-: do tell |
| 14:33.05 | kneeki | I don't know. I'm just curious |
| 14:33.09 | Syzgyn | Fisker-: Link? |
| 14:33.21 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=6178320829&sid=1 |
| 14:33.34 | Shirik | Antiarc: ping |
| 14:33.39 | Syzgyn | nifty! |
| 14:34.11 | Shane|Work | Fisker-: slick. hope it's faster. |
| 14:34.55 | schnoggo | whew. Got everything that was ready pushed live. Off to paying projects. Have a happy patch day! |
| 14:35.34 | ambethia | Nice... so when you are about to invite that hunter to do heroic whatchamacallit, and he says hes done it many times... you can call him out on not having done it all |
| 14:38.39 | Ose | silly curse client |
| 14:39.26 | Syzgyn | ambethia: You could do it in game, even if the armory wasnt being updated |
| 14:39.54 | Fisker- | speaking of hunters btw |
| 14:39.55 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=6178690052&sid=1 |
| 14:39.58 | Pneumatus | guess that the CTMod guys finally gave up developing an addon where there are better alternatives |
| 14:40.00 | ambethia | Oh, you can inspect achievements? Excellent |
| 14:40.01 | Syzgyn | GRR not enough hard drive space to patch D: |
| 14:40.01 | Fisker- | Also look at his armory for extra lulz |
| 14:40.28 | ambethia | The only thing I've been doing in beta is working on my addon |
| 14:41.23 | Syzgyn | My addon replaces the achievement frame, so I know a bit about it :P |
| 14:42.08 | schnoggo | I knew that was coming, so I put a new drive in my wow machinge last week :) |
| 14:42.26 | Maldivia | now, if only they would work faster on the update, and bring the servers up now :) |
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| 14:43.06 | Syzgyn | I need to free up 4GB somehow D: |
| 14:43.21 | Shane|Work | Syzgyn: wipe out some old pr0n |
| 14:43.30 | Shane|Work | Syzgyn: you need to stop hoarding it all |
| 14:43.39 | Syzgyn | There is no porn! Thats all on the other drive |
| 14:44.32 | Syzgyn | The problem is WoW + Beta = over half of that partition gone |
| 14:44.43 | Shane|Work | yeaaa... |
| 14:45.13 | Shane|Work | I felt really silly when I loaded the PTR client overnight with beta already sitting there on my drive. |
| 14:45.38 | schnoggo | I thought drive came with pre-installed porn nowadays :p |
| 14:45.48 | Wikwocket | no, just pre-installed viruses |
| 14:48.15 | Maldivia | Syzgyn: move some of the beta data files to a different partition while installing? |
| 14:48.35 | Syzgyn | Good idea |
| 14:49.15 | Maldivia | hehe - the patch notes with the patch aren't exactly up to date:) |
| 14:49.32 | zenzelezz | how so? |
| 14:49.54 | Maldivia | there are a lot of the class changes in there that were changes a long time ago on beta |
| 14:50.40 | zenzelezz | I'm not sure I follow. The patch notes should be everything between 2.4.3 and 3.0.2, even if it's old beta? |
| 14:50.51 | Maldivia | example: Faerie Fire (Feral): Now an 11-point talent, down from being a 21-point talent. |
| 14:50.57 | Maldivia | it's not a talent, it's a base spell |
| 14:51.22 | Wikwocket | CoH is still listed as having the 6-second cooldown in the patch notes |
| 14:51.43 | Maldivia | Force of Nature (Balance): Cooldown reduced to 2 minutes, down from 3. <-- was upped to 3 again |
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| 14:53.36 | Maldivia | Tree of Life (Restoration): You can now cast all Restoration spells (Healing Touch) in the form, but Tree of Life now only reduces the mana cost of your healing over time spells (Rejuvenation, Lifebloom, Regrowth and Flourish) by 20%. <--- "Flourish", no such spell, it was renamed Wild Growth |
| 14:53.53 | zenzelezz | I see |
| 14:54.22 | Maldivia | so yeah, the patch notes aren't exactly up to date... |
| 14:54.37 | cladhaire | i want to go to sleep |
| 14:54.41 | cladhaire | but there's a really good lecture today |
| 14:54.55 | Maldivia | cladhaire: go to the lecture then... and sleep there :) |
| 14:55.17 | cladhaire | http://web.comlab.ox.ac.uk/seminars/0.html |
| 14:55.18 | cladhaire | I cna't |
| 14:55.23 | cladhaire | its a big lecture in front of the whole ab |
| 14:55.25 | cladhaire | lab |
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| 14:56.23 | alestane | Okay, I finish the update and suddenly I'm downloading a new patch? |
| 14:56.34 | Shirik | win |
| 14:56.56 | Fisker- | fail |
| 14:57.04 | Fisker- | what patch alestane ? |
| 14:57.05 | Maldivia | alestane: there are two patches, 2.4.3 -> 3.0.1 and 3.0.1 -> 3.0.2 |
| 14:57.17 | Maldivia | alestane: but you should have about 95% of each of them |
| 14:57.26 | Maldivia | (if you've done the background download) |
| 14:57.39 | Syzgyn | Booooo http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/10/13/don-cheadle-replaces-terrance-howard-in-iron-man-2/ |
| 14:57.58 | zenzelezz | so for EU there's more data beyond the three parts we've already background-downloaded? |
| 14:58.05 | alestane | Well, I just finished installing "WoW-2.4.3-to-3.0.2-enUS-OSX-Final-Downloader", but yes, this is a 3.0.1 to 3.0.2 update. |
| 14:58.41 | Fisker- | ooh |
| 14:58.43 | Fisker- | final >:3 |
| 14:59.00 | zenzelezz | final like in fantasy... not very final |
| 14:59.42 | Fisker- | >:E |
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| 14:59.58 | Maldivia | it's the final countdown... duh duh duh duh |
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| 15:02.22 | ambethia | I had 95% of the 3.0.1 to 3.0.2 already it seems |
| 15:02.38 | ambethia | <- not EU though |
| 15:02.50 | zenzelezz | so how big was your final piece? |
| 15:02.51 | Maldivia | ambethia: yep, 1=>2 was the 2nd and 3rd background push |
| 15:03.03 | ambethia | er, mid-300s I think? |
| 15:03.09 | ambethia | 340 or something |
| 15:04.09 | Maldivia | for windows, if you fetched all the background downloader had to offer then first patch needed 23.5mb, and second patch needed 8.7mb |
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| 15:05.05 | ambethia | Yeah, I'm on OS X right now, the two went pretty quick, so that sounds about right for me too |
| 15:05.15 | ambethia | Updating my PC as we speak |
| 15:05.41 | cladhaire | i can't patch yet, hehe |
| 15:05.46 | cladhaire | i still need to update some addons |
| 15:05.46 | cladhaire | blegh |
| 15:05.49 | Antiarc | Shirik: Pong |
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| 15:14.43 | p3lim | any wowi admins here? |
| 15:14.55 | cladhaire | yes |
| 15:15.00 | cladhaire | a few very tired wowi admins |
| 15:15.01 | p3lim | please move oUF_DruidMana to out of date |
| 15:15.14 | p3lim | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8961-oUFDruidMana.html |
| 15:15.35 | Maldivia | p3lim: isn't those kind of addons obsolete now, with UnitPower? |
| 15:15.48 | p3lim | Maldivia: exactly |
| 15:15.49 | Josh_Borke | Maldivia: exactly ;-) |
| 15:15.53 | kneeki | lol |
| 15:15.57 | Josh_Borke | Maldivia: hence the out of date request |
| 15:15.59 | kneeki | I was going to say that also, but held it in.. |
| 15:16.01 | cladhaire | done |
| 15:16.11 | p3lim | Maldivia: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=104274#post104274 |
| 15:16.19 | Maldivia | well, they aren't obsolete - the logic to calculate it is, but the bars to shows are still relevant? |
| 15:16.44 | p3lim | my previous reply answered you |
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| 15:16.57 | Maldivia | p3lim: yeah :) |
| 15:17.14 | Lopeppeppy | Doom and destruction? |
| 15:17.26 | zenzelezz | peppy: not yet |
| 15:17.37 | Lopeppeppy | Excellent. Wake me when it's over. |
| 15:17.40 | Maldivia | Lopeppeppy: you just arrived, so any minute now |
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| 15:18.31 | Maldivia | give it... 6 hours or so... when servers start to come back up... then you can hear the cry of a few million wow users |
| 15:18.48 | p3lim | cladhaire: thanks |
| 15:18.53 | cladhaire | no problem |
| 15:19.23 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Shirik dear. |
| 15:23.27 | Maldivia | time to plan level 70 specs... |
| 15:24.22 | malreth | i'm still a slave to my frost-specific gear... |
| 15:24.31 | malreth | thinking about going deep arcane, tho |
| 15:24.35 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, malreth. How's things. |
| 15:24.39 | durcyn | there is no more frost-specific gear |
| 15:24.42 | malreth | things are peachy |
| 15:24.46 | malreth | durcyn: oh? |
| 15:24.52 | malreth | oh! |
| 15:24.58 | malreth | well then |
| 15:25.17 | Maldivia | frozen shadowweave is not pure spell power - no longer frost/shadow |
| 15:25.34 | malreth | one of those is supposed to be a "now" |
| 15:25.56 | Maldivia | yeah, not=now |
| 15:26.48 | malreth | well then |
| 15:27.17 | Maldivia | 47, 59, 41 for boots, robe and shoulders |
| 15:28.15 | malreth | i guess i can stop trying to replace all my FSW armor then |
| 15:28.36 | Maldivia | well, it's down from 57, 72, 50 |
| 15:28.55 | Maldivia | so you loose 32 spell power |
| 15:29.14 | malreth | meh |
| 15:29.39 | malreth | it's better than losing the 100+ damage by respeccing |
| 15:29.47 | Maldivia | true |
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| 15:32.45 | durcyn | took 'em bloody long enough, tailoring recipes were overpowered as hell. |
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| 15:45.03 | cogwheel | ~seen ackis |
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| 15:48.54 | Ose | geif 3.0.2. compatible buttonkey addon (i.e. Bongos) ploxx |
| 15:49.11 | durcyn | Ose: dominos |
| 15:49.12 | jaxdahl2 | any reason bartender4 wouldn't work in 3.0.2? |
| 15:49.15 | Lopeppeppy | Reads update threads in forums, plx! |
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| 15:49.56 | Pneumatus | jaxdahl2: BT4 has a beta version released for 3.0 |
| 15:49.59 | Lopeppeppy | Macaroon is listed as working, I hear good about Bar4 as well. |
| 15:50.27 | Pneumatus | 4.1.0-WotLK-Beta2 afaik |
| 15:50.43 | kneeki | hummm |
| 15:50.50 | morkii | speaking of those beta versions are they getting merged with the old ones or do I need to update the links for wowi ui manager? |
| 15:50.57 | Ose | think you durcyn |
| 15:51.01 | kneeki | Is ClearFont2 being updated? Or does it work fine w/o updates? I didn't have luck when I tried using it on the PTR or Beta |
| 15:51.16 | kneeki | And his website has not been updated since April |
| 15:51.28 | Ose | ask when he comes online |
| 15:51.36 | Pneumatus | kneeki: no idea, i switched to MiniType on beta as it got updated so it worked |
| 15:51.49 | kneeki | Ah |
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| 15:52.04 | Pneumatus | basically does the same thing anyway :) |
| 15:53.24 | morkii | mm? |
| 15:55.21 | Lopeppeppy | If there are Vista users out there who understand and can explain the "new public folder" thing that's being talked about in this thread, I'd love to hear from you. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11162667238&sid=1 |
| 15:55.31 | Shirik | hm? |
| 15:55.35 | Lopeppeppy | Peppy is not vista-fluent, but I'd like to understand this. |
| 15:56.09 | Shirik | hey peppy |
| 15:56.15 | Shirik | go look at that thread again and look at one of the suggestions |
| 15:58.20 | Josh_Borke | i have no idea what a public folder is |
| 15:58.24 | Maldivia | Lopeppeppy: public folder = shared documents from xp |
| 15:58.45 | Maldivia | Lopeppeppy: meaning a doc&settings folder that's read and writable for all accounts on the machine |
| 15:59.10 | Shirik | wait hold up, what? |
| 15:59.20 | Shirik | on vista you don't use WoW/Interface/Addons anymore? |
| 15:59.23 | ZealotOnAStick | WoW under Vista has some odd choices on where to put things. |
| 15:59.23 | Maldivia | Lopeppeppy: on Vista, Blizzard puts the patches in Public\Public Documents\Blizzard Entertainment\ |
| 15:59.32 | ZealotOnAStick | Shirik: you CAN. |
| 15:59.39 | ZealotOnAStick | they'll be picked up and run from there. |
| 15:59.44 | Shirik | huh. |
| 16:00.06 | ZealotOnAStick | but they'll also run (and I think may default to?) Public/Public Docs/etc. |
| 16:00.26 | Maldivia | Shirik: as default on Vista, wow wants to install itself to the the Public folder, instead of Program Files |
| 16:00.38 | Shirik | there is something very wrong with that |
| 16:00.38 | ZealotOnAStick | to avoid having UAC throw fits. |
| 16:00.48 | Maldivia | Shirik: because that way it bypasses the restrictions with not storing settings on the Program Files folde, and avoid UAC |
| 16:00.55 | Shirik | because, you know, installing to the documents folder is totally the right solution |
| 16:00.58 | ZealotOnAStick | If you run as admin or elevated privs, not an issue. |
| 16:01.00 | morkii | any mods like itemsync for wotlk? |
| 16:01.07 | Shirik | the documents folder was totally made as a place to install programs |
| 16:01.07 | Maldivia | Shirik: it's not just a documents folder |
| 16:01.08 | ZealotOnAStick | Ludwig |
| 16:01.17 | Shirik | I don't run as admin or elevated and I don't have an issue, ZealotOnAStick |
| 16:01.22 | Shirik | it just requires intelligence |
| 16:01.39 | Maldivia | Shirik: it's for all shared items - the default folder there are Desktop, Documents, Downloads, Music, Pictures and Videos |
| 16:01.50 | ZealotOnAStick | Shirik, I'm not fond of it either. |
| 16:01.51 | Shirik | you're totally missing my point |
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| 16:04.20 | ZealotOnAStick | Quite possibly. I've a bit of lack of sleep going on. |
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| 16:05.55 | Nom- | Is it just me or is sourceforge REALLY slow |
| 16:06.13 | Lopeppeppy | Thank you Shirik dear. |
| 16:06.17 | Lopeppeppy | Nom, of course it is, it's patch day. |
| 16:06.31 | Shirik | sourceforge? |
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| 16:06.47 | Josh_Borke | the entire internet goes slower |
| 16:07.00 | Lopeppeppy | Patch mirror, I'd assume. |
| 16:07.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Is the patch public? |
| 16:07.30 | Maldivia | ScytheBlade1: yes |
| 16:07.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: if you're still looking for an explanation, I can help you out |
| 16:08.05 | Nom- | sourceforge |
| 16:08.19 | amro | sourceforge is always slow |
| 16:10.07 | Lopeppeppy | ScytheBlade1, it just sounded like it was some new thing that WoW was doing in Vista, which confused me. If it's as normal, my as-normal advice comes back. Move that out of /programs, kk. |
| 16:10.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Fair enough. |
| 16:11.01 | jaxdahl2 | why does the blizz downloader not provide options to cap upload bandwidth? |
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| 16:11.34 | cogwheel | jaxdahl2: you can extract the torrent from the patch file and use whatever program you want :P |
| 16:11.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Because everyone would cap their upstream at 0. |
| 16:11.48 | Shirik | it does throttle |
| 16:12.09 | jaxdahl2 | cogwheel, yeah but i've already downloaded a bunch and don't want to start over |
| 16:12.17 | ZealotOnAStick | you don't have to start over. |
| 16:12.19 | p3lim | anyone know the new function for this?: InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToFrame |
| 16:12.27 | ZealotOnAStick | just point the torrent client to where it's downloading to already. |
| 16:12.34 | ZealotOnAStick | and the torrent is in the Cache folder. |
| 16:12.34 | Srosh | Does someone know a minimalistic addon that's just providing auto-repairs? |
| 16:12.42 | morkii | filefront download is goin at 700 |
| 16:13.03 | Wikwocket | Srosh: DurabilityStatus is nice |
| 16:13.17 | Wikwocket | provides a durability% frame, and prompts to repair at vendor |
| 16:13.23 | Srosh | Gonna check it out, thanks. |
| 16:13.25 | clad|nap | p3lim: InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToCategory? |
| 16:13.48 | p3lim | the specific addon |
| 16:13.55 | clad|nap | ... |
| 16:13.57 | clad|nap | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:14.15 | JoshBorke | hm, new toc == 30000 |
| 16:14.15 | Seerah | InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToCategory("pMap") |
| 16:14.16 | JoshBorke | thanks |
| 16:14.17 | p3lim | InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToFrame('pStats') would open to my addons config |
| 16:14.19 | kneeki | p3lim: InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToFrame("Your Panel Name") |
| 16:14.20 | p3lim | really? |
| 16:14.27 | p3lim | no that didnt work kneeki |
| 16:14.37 | clad|nap | well play with it, or ask specific questions |
| 16:14.42 | kneeki | Erm, it works for me |
| 16:14.45 | kneeki | errr |
| 16:15.07 | kneeki | I think Category() was the 2.4.x version |
| 16:15.10 | kneeki | Isn't it Frame now? |
| 16:15.10 | jaxdahl2 | ZealotOnAStick, i'm not sure where it's downloading to currently |
| 16:15.28 | p3lim | thanks :) |
| 16:15.40 | p3lim | kneeki: other way around |
| 16:15.43 | morkii | what can i replace closetgnome with |
| 16:15.44 | ZealotOnAStick | jaxdahl, windows? |
| 16:15.47 | kneeki | Ah |
| 16:15.47 | clad|nap | kneeki: no, Category was from build 8970 |
| 16:16.10 | Brimm | Quick question: is there an even that updates on every energy tick (since it's "smooth" now) or do you need to poll it manually? |
| 16:16.14 | ZealotOnAStick | if it's xp or vista, I can tell you where. If it's mac, I don't know. |
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| 16:16.42 | Nom- | With how slow everything is, you'd think the servers were already live |
| 16:17.11 | jaxdahl2 | xp |
| 16:17.21 | morkii | anything wotlk that is like closetgnome? |
| 16:17.29 | Wikwocket | Brimm: my understanding is that UNIT_MANA and energy and so on are throttled to a few times a sec; the client extrapolates the smooth constant ticks |
| 16:17.29 | Syzgyn | Brimm: I believe the way it works now, is the events still update at the same rate, but the energy actually increases smoothly between events |
| 16:17.35 | ZealotOnAStick | point it just to your base World of Warcraft folder then, it downloads into /Updates in there. |
| 16:17.42 | Wikwocket | morkii: ItemRack is updated for WotLK |
| 16:17.51 | morkii | cheers |
| 16:17.51 | Syzgyn | Outfitter is too |
| 16:17.57 | ZealotOnAStick | There's also . . . Closetgnome |
| 16:17.58 | Brimm | Figured as much - thanks. Addons like agUF don't have smooth energy and it's a tad annoying. |
| 16:18.03 | Wikwocket | Right |
| 16:18.11 | morkii | closetgnome at least on wowi isn't updated |
| 16:18.12 | Syzgyn | They dont show it, but its still there |
| 16:18.17 | ZealotOnAStick | may not have the toc bumped to 30000 yet, but it works fine. |
| 16:18.22 | Wikwocket | On the plus side, thousands of addons that poll UNIT_MANA won't explode :) |
| 16:19.02 | Nom- | Shirik: ping |
| 16:19.10 | Shirik | Nom-: pong |
| 16:19.31 | Nom- | I mentioned the other night that I might be able to help out with dev on that new app |
| 16:19.42 | Shirik | mhm |
| 16:19.48 | Nom- | Just give me a shout if ya need a hand :) |
| 16:19.54 | Shirik | First I need to actually get it to a develop-able state :) |
| 16:19.57 | Shirik | i.e., lay out the skeleton |
| 16:20.03 | Shirik | but I'll find you |
| 16:20.07 | jaxdahl2 | ZealotOnAStick, i think i have to rename the .part files |
| 16:20.31 | Nom- | *nod* |
| 16:20.33 | ZealotOnAStick | oh, well, it may just be best to let it go on then |
| 16:20.56 | Syzgyn | lol |
| 16:21.15 | Lopeppeppy | What? I lurves Shirik, I want him to have the right tools for the task. |
| 16:21.57 | jaxdahl2 | ZealotOnAStick, blah, it only recovered 17.2 megs when the blizz downloader said it had 180mb done |
| 16:22.29 | ScytheBlade1 | jaxdahl2: then your torrent client is broke |
| 16:22.44 | ZealotOnAStick | send me info on where to fedex a hit on me to. Sorry. |
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| 16:24.05 | p3lim | ckknight: you have an update on LSO? |
| 16:24.16 | ckknight | update? |
| 16:24.21 | p3lim | well, for 3.0 |
| 16:25.46 | p3lim | my version is somewhat old |
| 16:26.03 | Nom- | LSO ? |
| 16:26.18 | ckknight | LibSimpleOptions-3.0 |
| 16:26.31 | Nom- | oic |
| 16:26.52 | p3lim | 3.0? |
| 16:26.54 | p3lim | :p |
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| 16:27.18 | p3lim | ...nterface\AddOns\pStats\Libs\LibSimpleOptions-1.0.lua:329: CreateFrame(): Couldn't find inherited node "InterfaceOptionsSliderTemplate" |
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| 16:28.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Total patch size? |
| 16:28.28 | [dRaCo] | 1.57GB here |
| 16:28.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm not bad |
| 16:28.37 | morkii | it was 1.2 for me |
| 16:28.56 | sylvanaar | my partition ran out of space I had to resize it |
| 16:29.03 | mikma | ** nsfw ** http://thesuperficial.com/2008/10/bfm_enlarged/enlarged-sarah_paylin_makes_a_porno.php?bfm_index=11 |
| 16:29.05 | [dRaCo] | windows, EU, if that matters |
| 16:29.38 | Syzgyn | mikma: wtf o.O |
| 16:29.39 | [dRaCo] | could have told from the url, btw ;) |
| 16:30.50 | mikma | which part of it |
| 16:31.37 | Fisker- | bfm_index=11 |
| 16:32.56 | haste | yes, everyone knows bfm stands for big fucking mugs |
| 16:33.40 | Lyn | haste, sorry if I am going on your nerves... but what exactly did you change on the color tables in ouf for wotlk? cant see any change but my custom colors are gone (I am blind, it seems) |
| 16:33.50 | Syzgyn | ckknight: Is Cowtip 3.0 ready? |
| 16:33.58 | ckknight | as far as I know, yes |
| 16:34.05 | ckknight | Stanzilla's going through and updating my tocs |
| 16:34.11 | Syzgyn | Ok |
| 16:34.11 | ckknight | afaik, Cart2 is the main one that needs work |
| 16:34.20 | haste | Lyn: 3.0 uses type as index, and not a number |
| 16:34.21 | Syzgyn | Yea |
| 16:34.26 | Lyn | erm |
| 16:34.29 | Lyn | you mean like |
| 16:34.30 | Lyn | MANA |
| 16:34.32 | Lyn | ENERGY |
| 16:34.34 | haste | yes |
| 16:34.35 | Lyn | instead of 0, 1..? |
| 16:34.36 | Lyn | ah ok |
| 16:34.36 | Lyn | thanks |
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| 16:36.01 | sylvanaar | i posted this on wowace, any thoughts or input would be great http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=14479 |
| 16:36.10 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, this is the Vista question I cannot answer, in a nutshell. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11162667300&sid=1 Is this where I tell him to move it out of his Programs folder? :) |
| 16:36.46 | sylvanaar | vista removed the folder create permission in program files |
| 16:36.59 | sylvanaar | its inherited by all the subfolders |
| 16:37.12 | sylvanaar | you can disable the inheritance |
| 16:37.37 | Shirik | he should just be able to put it into Interface\Addons in there Lopeppeppy |
| 16:39.38 | mikma | how big is the 3.0.2 patch? |
| 16:39.39 | Lopeppeppy | He said there ain't no Interface folder there in the Public, so will putting them into the Interface folder in /programs work? |
| 16:39.44 | Duman | 1.2 GB |
| 16:39.54 | sylvanaar | but this is my post on the subject http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=11431 |
| 16:39.59 | mikma | ... |
| 16:40.06 | mikma | freaking ouch |
| 16:40.07 | sylvanaar | it sums it all up |
| 16:40.20 | Shirik | they certainly changed something, Lopeppeppy, however I believe he should create it |
| 16:40.25 | sylvanaar | no |
| 16:40.35 | Shirik | rofl sylvanaar |
| 16:40.48 | sylvanaar | i have been through this for almost a year |
| 16:41.09 | Fisker- | bur |
| 16:41.15 | Shirik | so have I, sylvanaar |
| 16:41.19 | ZealotOnAStick | sylvanaar: 1) proceess? 2) Neat concept, but whatever tool is used would have to be extremely open. I wouldn't tolerate using the CC for example to enable this. |
| 16:41.21 | Shirik | why do you think I made that post on wowi |
| 16:41.42 | Fisker- | Great post sylvanaar |
| 16:42.10 | sylvanaar | anyhow, his addons folter is in ProgramData/World of Warcraft/Interface/Addons most likely |
| 16:42.12 | ScytheBlade1 | yey my guild is officially dead |
| 16:42.24 | Syzgyn | yey? |
| 16:42.27 | ScytheBlade1 | yey. |
| 16:42.33 | Syzgyn | Grats then |
| 16:42.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Time to MOVE ON YO. |
| 16:42.51 | Shirik | I thought you were taking it over |
| 16:42.59 | Shirik | come join my guild ty |
| 16:43.03 | Fisker- | join my guild |
| 16:43.04 | ScytheBlade1 | haha, no actually |
| 16:43.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Uh, tl;dr |
| 16:43.10 | Syzgyn | Shirik's guild smells bad |
| 16:43.12 | ScytheBlade1 | I sent the GM a private message |
| 16:43.12 | Syzgyn | Join mine |
| 16:43.16 | Shirik | :( |
| 16:43.19 | ScytheBlade1 | "I'm leaving come Wrath, to make my own guild" |
| 16:43.21 | ScytheBlade1 | He replied |
| 16:43.30 | ScytheBlade1 | "haha I'm leaving too, I was going to give the guild to you!" |
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| 16:43.34 | Syzgyn | Hahaha |
| 16:43.35 | ZealotOnAStick | So, the really super important addon question for 3.0.2 . . . |
| 16:43.39 | Lopeppeppy | I'm just now quitting my raid guild too... must love expansions. |
| 16:43.49 | ZealotOnAStick | Does Bejeweled work on it? (I haven't looked at a single file on it yet) |
| 16:43.56 | ScytheBlade1 | ZealotOnAStick: IT HAD BETTER. |
| 16:43.59 | Syzgyn | I like my current guild, I hope it doesn't die |
| 16:44.13 | ZealotOnAStick | ScytheBlade1: INORITE! |
| 16:44.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: but as a result of my not taking the guild, it's almost 100% for sure going to just die |
| 16:44.19 | Fisker- | /wrists if it doesn't |
| 16:44.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh I won't care I'm leaving :) |
| 16:44.29 | Syzgyn | GUILD KILLER |
| 16:44.31 | Syzgyn | D: |
| 16:44.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Actually |
| 16:44.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Syzgyn |
| 16:44.37 | Syzgyn | lol |
| 16:44.39 | ScytheBlade1 | There's more truth to that than you think |
| 16:44.49 | ScytheBlade1 | This will be #4 that I've single-handedly destroyed |
| 16:44.50 | Syzgyn | I KNEWS IT |
| 16:45.02 | Syzgyn | In that case, stay away from my guild :P |
| 16:45.06 | Neuro_Medivh | Scytheblade, where are you moving to? |
| 16:45.14 | ScytheBlade1 | I have a (much) smaller guild of friends |
| 16:45.18 | ScytheBlade1 | In there I have my druid |
| 16:45.21 | ScytheBlade1 | With a guild note of |
| 16:45.23 | Neuro_Medivh | ah |
| 16:45.25 | ScytheBlade1 | "Sbo, destroyer of guilds" |
| 16:45.29 | Syzgyn | lol |
| 16:45.45 | Syzgyn | I did TK last night with a bunch of people in my old guild |
| 16:45.55 | Syzgyn | that were pushing 500-700 dps |
| 16:45.59 | Syzgyn | it was magical |
| 16:46.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Nothing like being a *mage* and having equally geared rogues be pulling 600DPS less than you |
| 16:46.34 | Fisker- | :(/ |
| 16:46.37 | Fisker- | ~kiss Fisker- |
| 16:46.38 | purl | ACTION forces Fisker- to give zenzelezz a big kiss on the hand |
| 16:46.39 | Syzgyn | I brought in the GM of my current guild on his shit geared lock alt |
| 16:46.40 | Fisker- | :( |
| 16:46.45 | Syzgyn | and he topped the meters by 3% |
| 16:50.11 | Lopeppeppy | Morning MP |
| 16:50.23 | MentalPower | morning pwppy |
| 16:50.27 | MentalPower | peppy* |
| 16:50.33 | Lyn | meh.. |
| 16:51.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh wow the ultimate in irony |
| 16:51.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Posted on WoW Insider |
| 16:51.35 | ScytheBlade1 | "Blizzard has been known to release inaccurate patch notes from time to time. Please take these notes with a grain of salt until further testing can be done." |
| 16:51.49 | Duman | /facepalm |
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| 16:52.39 | sylvanaar | they have never once been complete change notes, however the parts they do mention are most often accurate |
| 16:53.25 | Adys | what was the /console command to disable the real time mana/energy regen? |
| 16:53.39 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:53.46 | Lyn | meh... could it be that the reaction stuff changed, too? from # to name or so? |
| 16:53.48 | Shadowed | smoothUpdates? |
| 16:53.51 | jaxdahl2 | it's predictedPower isn't it? |
| 16:53.55 | Shadowed | I think thats right |
| 16:54.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 16:54.06 | Shadowed | Pretty sure the CVar is called in TargetFrame or PlayerFrame |
| 16:54.10 | ScytheBlade1 | predictedPower |
| 16:54.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Whether or not to use predicted power values in the UI |
| 16:54.10 | ScytheBlade1 | predictedHealth |
| 16:54.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Whether or not to use predicted health values in the UI |
| 16:54.37 | Adys | predictedHealth doesnt work? |
| 16:54.39 | jaxdahl2 | the behavior is pretty wonky |
| 16:54.51 | jaxdahl2 | you may need to do a ui reload after |
| 16:55.08 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: ^ is another thing to add to your sticky |
| 16:55.11 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 16:55.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Good timing :P |
| 16:55.25 | Adys | still doesnt work |
| 16:55.27 | Adys | after /rl |
| 16:55.32 | Syzgyn | Mmm, I just cut the size of my addon folder from 90MB to 24MB :) |
| 16:55.56 | Lyn | what happens to UnitReactionColor color table? :/ its now gone in targetframe.. |
| 16:57.20 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: also, if you're running on vista, the patch asks you to move it out of Program Files |
| 16:57.24 | haste | UnitSelectionColor is the new shit Lyn |
| 16:57.28 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: screenshots in a moment |
| 16:57.36 | Lyn | ah |
| 16:57.45 | Lyn | kay.. found it myself after i asked lol |
| 16:58.10 | haste | the oUF diffs should answer most UF related questions |
| 16:58.35 | kd3 | yay for the background downloader... only a 20-something meg patch on patch day itself |
| 16:59.22 | Syzgyn | ^^ |
| 16:59.24 | kd3 | ...and wow at it not popping patch notes |
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| 17:01.16 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/NewLocation/ |
| 17:02.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: ^ |
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| 17:02.52 | Nom- | It does ScytheBlade1 |
| 17:02.55 | Nom- | After you finish that bit |
| 17:03.02 | Fisker- | bawww |
| 17:03.05 | Lyn | moah i hate that shit.. |
| 17:03.06 | Fisker- | pwnt by vista |
| 17:03.09 | Fisker- | btw |
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| 17:03.26 | Nom- | Yah, but all credit to Blizz for putting that in to save a lot of people trouble |
| 17:03.27 | jaxdahl2 | ScytheBlade1, you fail at cropping |
| 17:03.32 | batrick | does the blizzard downloader love to crash for anyone else? |
| 17:03.36 | jaxdahl2 | 1264x988px |
| 17:03.40 | ScytheBlade1 | jaxdahl2: I didn't crop, I used alt+printscreen :P |
| 17:03.45 | Nom- | batrick: worked fine for me |
| 17:03.46 | *** join/#wowuidev gVcqsgV (n=bsayify@193.220.30.1) |
| 17:03.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Then thank vista for being retarded |
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| 17:03.49 | Fisker- | Nom- saves themselves as well |
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| 17:03.57 | Duman | nooo |
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| 17:03.59 | jaxdahl2 | ScytheBlade1, you didn't resize the canvas, that's what i mean |
| 17:04.00 | Duman | make it stop |
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| 17:04.06 | ScytheBlade1 | haha, wow |
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| 17:04.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Vista's paint is retarded |
| 17:04.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik|zZz: fail ^ |
| 17:04.28 | Nom- | lol |
| 17:04.32 | Nom- | you have to change the canvas size too |
| 17:04.39 | Shirik|zZz | It's very slow |
| 17:04.43 | Shirik|zZz | like |
| 17:04.44 | batrick | ive been forced to redownload wow (which fortunately automatically downloads 2.3 rather than 1.12) |
| 17:04.50 | Shirik|zZz | I don't even know what to say about it |
| 17:04.51 | batrick | the downloader randomly terminates |
| 17:05.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik|zZz: make more people +o ;) |
| 17:05.14 | batrick | i had the same problem for WotLK |
| 17:05.14 | Shirik|zZz | what's the point |
| 17:05.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Faster +rR |
| 17:05.31 | Shirik|zZz | I think shiibot made the right choice: It stopped |
| 17:05.38 | Shirik|zZz | means the botnet fails, not Shiibot |
| 17:05.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Which just means that we'll see more of that crap in the future |
| 17:05.56 | ScytheBlade1 | yay for seven-eight bots at a time? |
| 17:05.57 | Shirik|zZz | unlikely |
| 17:06.06 | Shirik|zZz | I just need to increase the scoring mechanism |
| 17:06.10 | Lopeppeppy | ScytheBlade1, I don't understand your link? |
| 17:06.11 | ScytheBlade1 | You're the one who said that the botmaster was tuning it around the shiibot :) |
| 17:06.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: that's what Vista users get when they try to install 3.0.2. |
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| 17:06.45 | Lopeppeppy | Oh. "Move WoW out of your program files and try again, without being a failure inducing excuse for a sneeze." |
| 17:06.50 | Lopeppeppy | Wait. |
| 17:06.53 | Lopeppeppy | Peppy is the nice dino. |
| 17:06.54 | Lopeppeppy | Right. |
| 17:06.57 | ScytheBlade1 | It does it for you now :) |
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| 17:08.34 | batrick | downloader constantly randomly crashing after spending 5 minutes checking the 50% ive downloaded = nerd rag3 |
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| 17:08.50 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 17:08.51 | ScytheBlade1 | A late bot :P |
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| 17:08.57 | Shirik|zZz | I know what I can do |
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| 17:09.06 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+rRf #shiibot] by Shiibot |
| 17:09.06 | Shiibot | Channel locked temporarily. Elapsed time: 680 minutes |
| 17:09.06 | Lunessa | station. |
| 17:09.10 | Shirik|zZz | or.... he knows what he can do |
| 17:09.17 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 17:09.31 | p3lim | haste: cpoints should still be parented to target frame right? |
| 17:09.37 | morkii | elapsed? |
| 17:09.41 | kd3 | hokay. updated the sticky for a note on vista users. anyone have any suggestions? |
| 17:09.43 | haste | you can do what you want |
| 17:09.58 | p3lim | not sure if they changed how cpoints works or not |
| 17:10.09 | p3lim | if it allows multiple targets |
| 17:10.09 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmoVKswuviE&feature=related |
| 17:10.13 | Shirik|zZz | ok I'm not going to bother retuning then |
| 17:10.14 | Shirik|zZz | maybe later |
| 17:10.16 | mikma | audio might be nsfw |
| 17:10.19 | Shirik|zZz | I need to finish this review |
| 17:10.22 | mikma | haven't watched it through yet ;D |
| 17:10.23 | Cairenn|afk | kd3: not sure if you saw my note last night - we've got our 3.0 AddOn Survival Guide up, if you want to add it to your PSA |
| 17:10.30 | kd3 | already up |
| 17:10.32 | kd3 | tyvm |
| 17:10.38 | Cairenn|afk | thanks luv :) |
| 17:11.08 | ScytheBlade1 | And the patch begins patching |
| 17:11.20 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: ha |
| 17:11.24 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: second line :) |
| 17:11.53 | ScytheBlade1 | s/coming very soon/ishere/ |
| 17:11.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Only with a space |
| 17:12.31 | ScytheBlade1 | It's surprisingly crap free |
| 17:12.36 | ScytheBlade1 | But I expect that to change within a day |
| 17:12.51 | alcaras | q: what do you guys use for updating your addons? jwowupdater just lost a ton of respect in my eyes by _deleting my settings_ |
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| 17:12.59 | alcaras | I had everything setup through WoWI to deal with the curse transition... and it just threw away all my data :( |
| 17:13.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Uh, jwowupdater isn't the WoWI updater |
| 17:13.33 | NeoTron | ScytheBlade1: did anyone ever say it was? |
| 17:13.38 | Lunessa | Exactly. It's an independent project on SourceForge. |
| 17:13.43 | alcaras | ScytheBlade1: True, but it let you update via WoWI. I'm just ranting at software design that THROWS AWAY USER DATA without asking. |
| 17:14.03 | ScytheBlade1 | alcaras: ah. That's why we don't use software that mooches off of others. :) |
| 17:14.06 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: I think he meant that jwowupdater was configured to use wowi, not that it was the wowi updater |
| 17:14.10 | ScytheBlade1 | alcaras: that said, the Curce CLient and the WoWI updater |
| 17:14.20 | alcaras | Curse Client is a P.O.S. :( |
| 17:14.24 | ScytheBlade1 | They have a new one |
| 17:14.29 | alcaras | I tried using it for Warhammer, it was buggy and ugly and horrible |
| 17:14.34 | alcaras | I refuse to use it! |
| 17:14.39 | Fisker- | i want the patch |
| 17:14.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Then enjoy updating manually. |
| 17:14.42 | Fisker- | paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatch |
| 17:14.55 | Dewin | I fired up the launcher and it immediately started downloading |
| 17:15.01 | ScytheBlade1 | alcaras: second, there are several curse staff here in channel. If it sucks that hard, helping them out would go a long way. |
| 17:15.02 | Dewin | well... checking the preload anyways |
| 17:15.04 | Dewin | just now |
| 17:15.04 | alcaras | Well, I'll look at WowI's updater |
| 17:15.26 | Syzgyn | Lunessa: I'm with you on that one |
| 17:15.31 | Shirik | I wouldn't advise that alcaras |
| 17:15.38 | alcaras | Shirik: why's that? |
| 17:15.40 | Shirik | That thing is end-of-life |
| 17:15.46 | ScytheBlade1 | alcaras: Shirik wrote it |
| 17:15.48 | alcaras | Ah. |
| 17:15.50 | Lunessa | Shirik: wrote it, and he's killing it soon. :P |
| 17:15.51 | Shirik | When the person who made it tells you not to use it, it's generally a good idea :P |
| 17:15.55 | alcaras | Ok. |
| 17:16.03 | Syzgyn | lol |
| 17:16.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Updating manually is the way to go at the moment. |
| 17:16.18 | alcaras | I'm just pissed at the moment because I spent time configuring stuff to be ready for 3.0.2... and then had JWU just nuke my data, no questions asked. |
| 17:16.36 | Shirik | that's pretty awesome |
| 17:16.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Few (if any) people here use it |
| 17:16.42 | alcaras | It's just bad design, that's all |
| 17:16.42 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 17:16.55 | ScytheBlade1 | After moving the game, it replays the BC intro |
| 17:17.01 | Lopeppeppy | Do it by hand, and you know if there are mistakes, it's your own damn fault. |
| 17:17.11 | Syzgyn | ScytheBlade1: It replayed it after patching |
| 17:17.15 | alcaras | ScytheBlade1: It played after patching |
| 17:17.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 17:17.20 | kneeki | ... |
| 17:17.21 | jaxdahl2 | heh, US updater has a language drop down for patch notes (english/espanol), has that always been in the EU client? |
| 17:17.22 | kneeki | huh |
| 17:17.29 | alcaras | Lopeppeppy: Apparently dismebedded libs are teh broken now too |
| 17:17.36 | kneeki | Where did the downloader put that 1.2Gb file, so I can burn it on a DVD. Anyone know? |
| 17:17.45 | ScytheBlade1 | alcaras: disembedded is no longer really supported by the Ace devs. |
| 17:17.47 | Brimm | Updates folder |
| 17:17.48 | kneeki | The Patches\ directory is gone, and nothing inthe root |
| 17:17.50 | MentalPower | jaxdahl2: yes |
| 17:17.50 | ZealotOnAStick | kneeki: /Updates in your WoW folder. |
| 17:17.52 | kneeki | Ahhhh |
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| 17:17.57 | kneeki | trixy hobbitses |
| 17:18.00 | Lunessa | Dis-embeded libs are fixed for 3.0.3 |
| 17:18.02 | MentalPower | kneeki: public folder |
| 17:18.02 | Syzgyn | So is it too early to take bets on how long the maintenance is going to be extended to? |
| 17:18.05 | alcaras | anyone use curse? How painless is it? |
| 17:18.05 | Jelly-School | ~hug Peppy |
| 17:18.06 | purl | ACTION hugs Peppy tightly until Peppy turns slightly blue |
| 17:18.14 | alcaras | Can I just run it, have it detect all my addons, and click update? |
| 17:18.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: I meant by design. It's still possible but Ace3 was designed to run embedded at all times. |
| 17:18.24 | kd3 | it'll get a good bit of them |
| 17:18.28 | Jelly-School | Has the world ended yet? Are people dying in massive fires? |
| 17:18.38 | ZealotOnAStick | alcaras: if you really wish to use the curse client, your best bet is to start with an EMPTY addons folder, and install addons with the "install via the curse client" links |
| 17:18.40 | jaxdahl2 | no, the UFOs haven't come yet |
| 17:18.54 | kd3 | whee at the cinematic working without even blinking. yay |
| 17:18.55 | Dewin | Szygyn: My speculation is that the servers will be up at 2:00 PM. But they'll be down at 2:01. |
| 17:19.00 | MentalPower | Jelly-School: I'm about to get hit by a tropical storm, does that count? |
| 17:19.02 | Syzgyn | Haha |
| 17:19.10 | ScytheBlade1 | LOL |
| 17:19.10 | ScytheBlade1 | HA |
| 17:19.18 | ScytheBlade1 | They patched in the Wrath login screen |
| 17:19.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Dragon and all |
| 17:19.22 | Syzgyn | Yeap |
| 17:19.23 | Lunessa | ... wait, no one told me their would be UFOs. I demand UFOs! |
| 17:19.24 | Jelly-School | A tropical storm? No |
| 17:19.32 | Dewin | Scytheblade1: Yup, it's been on the PTR too. |
| 17:19.33 | alcaras | ZealotOnAStick: That's one of my complaints with it -- it doesn't detect addons I've already installed, in fact, it doesn't seem to detect anything I didn't install via its links |
| 17:19.38 | alcaras | But its links have crashed the client before |
| 17:19.48 | alcaras | i.e. I'd click on 'install via curseclient' and then it'd hang :( |
| 17:19.52 | Cidan | waaahoo |
| 17:19.52 | jaxdahl2 | my speculation is they will have unexpected delays in the patching (achievement search code taking a long time) and it'll be up at 6pm pacific |
| 17:19.53 | MentalPower | kneeki: C:\Users\Public\Documents\Blizzard Entertainment\World of Warcraft |
| 17:19.59 | MentalPower | Lopeppeppy: thankees |
| 17:20.01 | Gnarfoz | anyone remember what the global var was that controls the alpha change when you hover over chat frames? |
| 17:20.05 | Dewin | alacras: Last time I used curse client it actually went "Hey, look at all these addons I don't know about, want to tell me what the are?" |
| 17:20.05 | Cidan | Goooooooddd byeeeeee TBC! |
| 17:20.16 | kd3 | hm. wonder if I can use my blizz login instead of the wow login now? |
| 17:20.23 | jaxdahl2 | doubtful |
| 17:20.27 | Syzgyn | yea |
| 17:20.43 | clad|away | no, the battle.net authentication was backed out a long time ago |
| 17:21.10 | Nom- | mine still works on beta |
| 17:21.11 | Nom- | QQ |
| 17:21.15 | clad|away | yes, so? |
| 17:21.20 | alcaras | Shirik: eta on new wowi updater? |
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| 17:21.36 | Syzgyn | Updaters are so overrated :( |
| 17:21.53 | Dewin | updates are overrated because there's no updater that does it right ;) |
| 17:21.55 | Cidan | Shirik: Can I have your babies? |
| 17:21.58 | ScytheBlade1 | alestane: you're awesome, thanks for that intro |
| 17:22.07 | Mikk | alcaras: and yes disembedded libs are horribly borked in 3.0.2. authors of ace-ey libs try to fix it by temporarily setting them to NOT load-on-demand (always load). |
| 17:22.12 | Syzgyn | Lemme rephrase that: Updating every day is overrated. |
| 17:22.12 | alestane | Almost done. I'll try and get it stickied. |
| 17:22.20 | Syzgyn | but we've already had that debate |
| 17:22.56 | alcaras | I don't update every day. |
| 17:23.01 | alcaras | I update every patch that changes the API |
| 17:23.20 | Syzgyn | Then you dont need an updater |
| 17:23.29 | alcaras | Yes, I do. |
| 17:23.33 | kd3 | hm? I've got a note that disembedded libs are broken in the patch day sticky |
| 17:23.42 | alcaras | Manually downloading 40 addons is too much of a pita to go through |
| 17:23.50 | ScytheBlade1 | alestane: I do it with more. /shrug |
| 17:23.50 | Syzgyn | I went through and updated my whole UI in about 30 minutes |
| 17:23.52 | ScytheBlade1 | err |
| 17:23.56 | ScytheBlade1 | alestane: disregard :) |
| 17:24.01 | ScytheBlade1 | alcaras: I do it with more. /shrug |
| 17:24.04 | clad|away | the LoD issue still there? |
| 17:24.05 | Syzgyn | ~fail ScytheBlade1 |
| 17:24.06 | purl | You suck at everything in life, ScytheBlade1. I hate you because you fail. |
| 17:24.06 | Dewin | Syz: The whole mess of embedded libs and what that could be solved really well if you had an updater that did dependency solving and just automatically installed/removed dependencies. |
| 17:24.11 | ScytheBlade1 | clad|away: yes. Fixed for 3.0.3. |
| 17:24.13 | clad|away | i.e. LightHeaded's data files will need to be non-LoD |
| 17:24.13 | ZealotOnAStick | I've got 90% of stuff ready. In theory. |
| 17:24.14 | alestane | Attack of the "al" names. |
| 17:24.15 | clad|away | poop |
| 17:24.17 | clad|away | thx |
| 17:24.30 | ZealotOnAStick | WTB AuditorFu update. :/ |
| 17:24.32 | Dewin | yeah, I just dumped my PTR addons folder into live. |
| 17:24.43 | ZealotOnAStick | Or equivalent functionality in something else. |
| 17:24.46 | Syzgyn | ZealotOnAStick: It was working on Beta for me fine |
| 17:24.50 | Syzgyn | Well, relatively fine |
| 17:24.51 | NeoTron | clad|away: they can still be LoD |
| 17:24.57 | NeoTron | clad|away: you'd just hav eto load them manually |
| 17:25.02 | clad|away | I already do |
| 17:25.05 | clad|away | so I'm fine then :P |
| 17:25.07 | clad|away | hurray! |
| 17:25.11 | ZealotOnAStick | Syzgyn: it was throwing errors on something for me enough on beta that I switched to MoneyFu |
| 17:25.22 | Cairenn | kd3: opinion time - do I do the "these mods have been updated" thread on the blizz forums, or not bother, because you have the "recently updated" lists for each of the sites linked? |
| 17:25.23 | ZealotOnAStick | but I haven't tried it in like a month, so on a newer build, dunno. |
| 17:25.26 | Syzgyn | Hm |
| 17:25.30 | NeoTron | LoadAddOn works fine |
| 17:25.55 | Syzgyn | Was using 2.4.0 on beta with no noticable errors |
| 17:26.02 | kd3 | I think the recently updated/survival guide links'll be enough. you've got enough crap to deal with as it is |
| 17:26.22 | Funkeh` | Cairenn, any chance of some alphabetical action on that survival guide? :p |
| 17:26.29 | Cairenn | it is alphabetical |
| 17:26.30 | Shirik | alcaras: eta is "soon" |
| 17:26.34 | ZealotOnAStick | Be sure to pay some monkeys off to spread rumors that WowMatrix is sending out keyloggers. |
| 17:26.36 | Syzgyn | Funkeh` fails :P |
| 17:26.37 | Shirik | soon™ |
| 17:26.44 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: maybe the bit about the wowace death needs to be more defined. Something blatent such as "the Curse Client is replacing the WoW Ace Updater." |
| 17:27.04 | alcaras | how is wowmatrix? |
| 17:27.07 | Shirik | no |
| 17:27.09 | Funkeh` | Cairenn, I'ts going chronological for me |
| 17:27.20 | Cairenn | Funkeh`: it shouldn't be |
| 17:27.30 | Nom- | QQ no iMac updates :( |
| 17:27.35 | Funkeh` | (firefox) |
| 17:27.37 | Nom- | I might have to go get a Windoze box instead |
| 17:27.42 | ScytheBlade1 | alcaras: it pisses off author devs, addon distribution sites, and quite a few number of people. Feel free to use it BUT expect absolutely no support for any of your addons as a result. |
| 17:27.43 | Nom- | Need to upgrade before wrath comes out |
| 17:27.54 | Cairenn | Funkeh`: they show fine for me |
| 17:28.00 | alcaras | ScytheBlade1: Why does it piss 'em all off? |
| 17:28.13 | ScytheBlade1 | alcaras: That's... well. here. read. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10871018107&sid=1 |
| 17:28.19 | Funkeh` | Cairenn, want a screenshot? :p |
| 17:28.20 | ZealotOnAStick | alcaras: handy if you're a soulless, clueless end-user with no regards for a number of issues. Evil if you ask anyone likely to bother saying anything about it. |
| 17:28.32 | alcaras | the site looks non-legit to me, thus i ask |
| 17:28.34 | Cairenn | Funkeh`: I believe you, just find it odd |
| 17:28.40 | Funkeh` | oki :> |
| 17:28.41 | ZealotOnAStick | or ScytheBlade1's link probably does more justive. |
| 17:28.41 | ScytheBlade1 | alcaras: post #1 says quite a bit in that thread |
| 17:28.42 | *** join/#wowuidev ShaneSveller (i=40c71da2@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7517b77c009b8eba) |
| 17:28.52 | ScytheBlade1 | "More" justice indeed :) |
| 17:28.56 | Lunessa | Funkeh`: If you're seeing strange results, 1) check your browser. Dumping cache, etc. You might need to disable any greasemonkey scripts you might be running for the WoWI domain. |
| 17:29.04 | Dewin | Cairenn: I have a wowi feature request. |
| 17:29.28 | Cairenn | Dewin: mind posting it in the "site suggestions" forum, please? kinda crazy right now, if you tell me I'm just going to forget it |
| 17:29.30 | Jelly-School | more sexleg |
| 17:29.31 | Dewin | Ahh |
| 17:29.35 | alcaras | i wonder if i can make a homebrew updater with wget |
| 17:29.38 | Dewin | sure. :) |
| 17:29.44 | Cairenn | posting it there means we'll see it when we have time to breath |
| 17:29.45 | Cidan | alcaras: Likely. |
| 17:30.11 | Dewin | I'll say it here anyways though :) |
| 17:30.27 | Dewin | Would it be possible to have the favorites page bold addons that have a new version we haven't downloaded yet, rather than bolding addons that have been updated within the last day? |
| 17:30.59 | Funkeh` | Just running old school Fx 3.0.3 with noscript, but wowi is allowed |
| 17:31.34 | Lunessa | Funkeh`: Then clear your cache - maybe you have an old version of the page? |
| 17:34.05 | Jelly-School | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:35.07 | Cairenn | btw, apologies in advance if I can't keep up with everything today, if you say something to me and I miss it, please ping me again - we are already insanely busy and the servers aren't even back up yet |
| 17:35.46 | Fisker- | Still want hatemail at the usual address? |
| 17:35.47 | Fisker- | :P |
| 17:35.50 | Jelly-School | ~hug Cairenn |
| 17:35.50 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn tightly until Cairenn turns slightly blue |
| 17:35.58 | Cairenn | Fisker-: of course |
| 17:36.18 | Dewin | I'm just glad I did most of this on the PTR |
| 17:36.50 | Dewin | wowi is slow now but at least it's working, I did it when it was still nice and fast. And I don't want to even think about how curse must be handling :) |
| 17:37.31 | Maldivia | it'll be wors in 4 hours |
| 17:37.56 | Jelly-School | Just don't plan on playing WoW tonight. You'll be a lot happier! :) |
| 17:38.19 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. What Jelly said. |
| 17:38.22 | Jelly-School | Go see a movie. Walk in the park. Go outside with that hot yellow thing that I personally haven't really seen in days. |
| 17:38.47 | Dewin | Jelly: I don't get to play WoW until my wife's UI is fixed. |
| 17:38.50 | Maldivia | Jelly: that hot yellow thing wont be available here until tomorrow |
| 17:38.56 | alcaras | so, how do i use curse-client? i've clicked on 'install via curse client' - it opens, i see my sign in info, i click sign in, it closes and nothing else happens |
| 17:38.57 | Dewin | And she didn't do the PTR update-all-the-addons thing. |
| 17:39.00 | Jelly-School | Peppy: I'm more-or-less talking myself into doing these things. |
| 17:39.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: agree |
| 17:39.03 | Lunessa | Jelly-School: That big glowing thing in the sky? When did that start? Is that a new feature? |
| 17:39.30 | Jelly-School | Lunessa: Yes. 3.0. It'll be out in a couple hours. RUN FOR THE HILL! |
| 17:39.35 | Maldivia | Lunessa: must be new to 3.0.2 - it's the one that's generating all the shadows |
| 17:39.53 | Lunessa | Damn it. Now I need to upgrade my video card... again! |
| 17:39.53 | alestane | There is now an introductory guide to the 3.0 secure handlers and state mechanics stickied in the UI forum. |
| 17:40.06 | ScytheBlade1 | alestane: you're awesome |
| 17:40.09 | Lopeppeppy | Huzzah, alestane! |
| 17:42.23 | alestane | About to go and add a link to Iriel's tech reference as soon as I track in down. |
| 17:42.24 | Maldivia | alestane: great - now I might get to fix my code so my raid group headers will actually work in combat again |
| 17:42.25 | Wikwocket | Dewin: me too. The best part is when she points at something in her UI that I don't use or even recognize and asks me to fix it :) |
| 17:43.28 | Tornhoof | alestane, that one? ? |
| 17:43.28 | Tornhoof | <fn~Jelly-School> Lunessa: Yes. 3.0. It'll be out in a couple h |
| 17:43.31 | Tornhoof | ehm |
| 17:43.33 | Shirik | can timestamp be used as a verb? |
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| 17:43.38 | Tornhoof | http://www.iriel.org/wow/docs/SecureHeadersGuide%20-%20pre1.pdf |
| 17:43.40 | Tornhoof | ;) |
| 17:43.41 | kd3 | sure |
| 17:43.42 | Cidan | God DAMN it. |
| 17:43.46 | Cidan | I knew I forgot something. |
| 17:43.47 | kd3 | anything can be verbed |
| 17:43.52 | Cidan | I wanted to go see Dalaran one last time last night |
| 17:43.54 | Cidan | before it moved. |
| 17:43.56 | Wikwocket | All nouns can be verbed. |
| 17:43.57 | alestane | Just checking if there's a more recent version. |
| 17:44.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Cidan: imagine a big pink bubble. there you go. |
| 17:44.16 | Cidan | D= |
| 17:44.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Wikwocket: verbing weirds language. :( |
| 17:44.18 | Jelly-School | Wikwocket: My roomie uses an old version of one of the UIs I use. She thought I would be updating her UI to the new addons. WRONG! She's going to have a personalized carbon copy (kek) of my UI. |
| 17:44.20 | kd3 | alestane, iriel's linking pre1 in his 3.0 changes sticky |
| 17:44.44 | Cidan | Jelly-School: I still use the pre-ace Elkano Buff Bar |
| 17:44.46 | alestane | kd3: Since that's the most recent link I can find, I'm posting it. |
| 17:45.09 | Jelly-School | It's not /that/ old. |
| 17:45.12 | NightHawkTheSane | ... Did anyone read the patch notes in the updater and half expect them to say "The level cap is now 77."? >.> |
| 17:45.14 | Lopeppeppy | Cidan! |
| 17:45.23 | Lopeppeppy | Wow, I don't think I've seen you about the place in a while. Hi! |
| 17:45.25 | kd3 | NightHawkTheSane, ya |
| 17:45.26 | Cidan | Lopeppeppy! I was just wondering where you were the other day, =D |
| 17:45.30 | Cidan | Hi. =D |
| 17:45.33 | Wikwocket | Cidan: http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Dalaran.jpg :) |
| 17:45.47 | NightHawkTheSane | kd3: glad it wasn't just me.. :) |
| 17:46.08 | Cidan | Wikwocket: =D Good times, good times. I remember when I first saw that, I was like... woah. D= |
| 17:46.13 | ShaneSveller | live will be a build or so behind beta from what i've heard |
| 17:46.19 | Lunessa | Cidan: I looked at it this weekned. No real change. |
| 17:46.32 | [SW]Dodge | Cairenn: i think there are no news yet regarding beta key give away? :( |
| 17:46.39 | Cidan | I know it was no change, but, I wanted a current screenshot. D= |
| 17:46.54 | Cairenn | [SW]Dodge: no point, since it's now live ... sorry luv =/ |
| 17:47.54 | [SW]Dodge | Cairenn: to bad... i would need access to a DK to fix my addon :( |
| 17:48.00 | [SW]Dodge | well you cant change it :/ |
| 17:48.50 | Fisker- | cogwheel's don't bounce |
| 17:48.52 | Fisker- | ever |
| 17:49.32 | cogwheel | liez |
| 17:49.58 | Dewin | WikWocket: I know it's a delayed response but... at least for me, my wife uses most of the same ui |
| 17:49.59 | Cidan | 3 hours to go! |
| 17:50.02 | Funkeh` | Cairenn, apologies, http://s.wowinterface.com/the_list.html is chronological, I mistake this for the "updated addons" page |
| 17:50.09 | Cairenn | ahhhhhhhhh |
| 17:50.14 | Cidan | Cairenn: Better than /waggle, ;P |
| 17:50.15 | Cairenn | Funkeh`: all is clear now |
| 17:50.17 | Corgan | Cairenn! |
| 17:50.19 | Lopeppeppy | I use my own damn UI, kthx, I don't need some male to update for me. |
| 17:50.21 | Dewin | we each have a few personalized bits though, and our actionbar layouts are entirely different (courtesy of me having a widescreen monitor) |
| 17:50.23 | Funkeh` | Cairenn, sorry :< |
| 17:50.24 | Cairenn | Cidan: I waggle too ;) |
| 17:50.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: lol |
| 17:50.28 | Cairenn | Funkeh`: no worries |
| 17:50.29 | Corgan | I didn't get to meet you at blizzcon :( |
| 17:50.31 | Lopeppeppy | I do happy wiggles! |
| 17:50.35 | Cairenn | Corgan: :( |
| 17:50.45 | Funkeh` | Cairenn, Is it meant to be chrono? |
| 17:50.46 | Cidan | Cairenn: I don't suppose the new people have seen your famous waggle picture? Let's see if I can dig it up... |
| 17:50.50 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: I'll update your UI for you any time. :P |
| 17:50.51 | Cairenn | Funkeh`: yeah |
| 17:51.01 | Cairenn | Cidan: lol |
| 17:51.12 | Cidan | No no, too mean. |
| 17:51.13 | Fisker- | WTF |
| 17:51.14 | alcaras | what should i use to update on wowi? curse-client doesn't seem to support it |
| 17:51.16 | Fisker- | All players will have their talent points reimbursed and will have access to new talents throughout their trees; this includes the 51-point talents. Several new spells and abilities have been added for all classes. Players will need to visit their class trainer to learn new spells. |
| 17:51.21 | Lunessa | Cairenn: Did you remember to avoid the sugar-free ice cream treats this year? |
| 17:51.21 | Nom- | awww |
| 17:51.30 | Fisker- | oh |
| 17:51.30 | Nom- | biggest dissapointment for me - no new iMac models today |
| 17:51.35 | Lopeppeppy | alcaras, just download things and install them. Whyfor need some magic client? |
| 17:51.37 | Fisker- | iProduct |
| 17:51.48 | Lopeppeppy | Aww, Lunessa, that's very sweet of you! |
| 17:51.48 | alcaras | Lopeppeppy: I like having it automated. |
| 17:51.58 | Lunessa | :D |
| 17:52.02 | alcaras | Lopeppeppy: So I can set it up and forget about it, and later just press one button to update each patch. |
| 17:52.07 | Nom- | The new MacBook Pro's are awesmoe tho... so happy work is buying me one |
| 17:52.17 | Cairenn | Cidan: you guys missed it ... I handed out the signed 8x10 glossies everyone has been asking for |
| 17:52.22 | Lopeppeppy | I have 2! |
| 17:52.28 | Cidan | Cairenn: Bahahahaha |
| 17:52.35 | Lopeppeppy | brb, sheeple attack. |
| 17:52.35 | Josh_Borke | lal |
| 17:52.35 | Lunessa | Nom-: My hate for you is fueled by my burning envy. |
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| 17:52.42 | Jelly-School | The Addon Updater 3000, new from RonCo! SET IT AND FORGET IT! |
| 17:52.49 | Cidan | Jelly-School: hah. |
| 17:52.59 | Nom- | ^_^ |
| 17:53.14 | Nom- | They've confirmed a new nVidia on-chip GPU |
| 17:53.19 | Nom- | Shipping today |
| 17:53.21 | Cidan | Don't blame you Lunessa, Cairenn is pretty smokin. |
| 17:53.36 | Cidan | Shirik: hi. =D Have fun out there? |
| 17:53.50 | Jelly-School | ~hug Seerah |
| 17:53.51 | purl | ACTION jumps into Seerah's lap and huggles and *hugs* Seerah |
| 17:54.14 | Fisker- | lulz btw |
| 17:54.26 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=4927443677&sid=1#7 |
| 17:54.27 | Jelly-School | She hasn't gotten any love! She's in the picture too! GOSH! Everyone's all wrapped up in how tall Duman is or how YOUNG (kek) Shirik is or how hot Cairenn is! |
| 17:54.34 | Fisker- | We don’t believe Magelo Sync violates Blizzard’s EULA |
| 17:54.41 | Fisker- | Perhaps you should change your belief system >:3 |
| 17:54.49 | Nom- | http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/macbookevent2008/macvent0182WTMK.JPG |
| 17:54.50 | Nom- | LOL |
| 17:54.51 | Fisker- | fail magelo is faaaaaaaaail |
| 17:54.56 | Cidan | what...picture? |
| 17:55.18 | Fisker- | What's so funny Nom- ? |
| 17:55.23 | Jelly-School | By the way Shirik, |
| 17:55.25 | Jelly-School | ~hug Shirik |
| 17:55.26 | purl | ACTION hugs Shirik |
| 17:55.32 | Cidan | No, no. |
| 17:55.34 | Fisker- | Or is it something that is only funny because you're longing for the new i<Product>? |
| 17:55.35 | Nom- | It's funny because they put it into the presentation |
| 17:55.36 | Lunessa | What? I mentioned more than once that Seerah was cute and looked like a gnome. |
| 17:55.36 | Cidan | ~lart Shirik |
| 17:55.36 | purl | plops Shirik into a giant vat of herring |
| 17:55.39 | Cairenn | Cidan: ? |
| 17:55.41 | Shirik | :( |
| 17:55.49 | Dewin | uhoh. |
| 17:55.50 | Cidan | Cairenn: ?! |
| 17:55.52 | Lunessa | I even mentioned that her TipTop addon is the bee's knees. |
| 17:55.52 | Dewin | update failed. |
| 17:55.53 | Nom- | It's a press conference and their very first Q&A slide was that |
| 17:56.02 | Shirik | He's being meanie to me |
| 17:56.05 | Seerah | They think I need to have green pigtails next year |
| 17:56.11 | Cidan | Shirik: It was out of love. |
| 17:56.14 | Jelly-School | Lunessa: You hardly count. You can't be hitting on her when you give her channel-love. :P |
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| 17:56.28 | Jelly-School | I do /completely/ agree with that. |
| 17:56.30 | Shirik | Just finished proofreading an 86 page requirements document, yay |
| 17:56.30 | Lunessa | Seerah: If you had green pig tails, someone would smuggle you home. |
| 17:56.41 | Seerah | hehe |
| 17:56.51 | Seerah | I don't think hubby would allow that |
| 17:56.54 | Cidan | Shirik: Yuch. I take it there were many more mistakes? |
| 17:56.54 | Lunessa | Jelly-School: By now you should know I'm an equal-opppotunity lech. |
| 17:57.02 | Shirik | yup |
| 17:57.05 | Jelly-School | Lunessa: /hug |
| 17:57.09 | Shirik | and that's what I get to yellat people for in 15 minutes |
| 17:57.12 | Jelly-School | ~failrik |
| 17:57.13 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 17:57.13 | Shirik | I love my job |
| 17:57.16 | Cidan | hah |
| 17:57.19 | Seerah | he didn't want to be in the group photo, so he was the photographer instead :P |
| 17:57.32 | Jelly-School | Is he a tauren warrior? |
| 17:57.50 | Jelly-School | Cause I dunno ... I hear Lunessa's smugglers can be hardcore |
| 17:57.53 | Seerah | he's a NE warrior |
| 17:57.56 | Lunessa | It's ok Seerah, I just like to let pretty, smart, and geeky women know how much I appreciate them all. |
| 17:58.27 | alcaras | wait, seerah wrote tiptop? |
| 17:58.31 | alcaras | THANK YOU FOR TIPTOP Seerah! |
| 17:58.42 | Seerah | lol |
| 17:58.45 | mikma | oh right, i haven't even tried tiptop :P |
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| 17:58.48 | alcaras | I love how it just 'works' without any config :) |
| 17:58.57 | Seerah | there is config now, if you want it |
| 17:59.59 | jaxdahl2 | Total Experience needed from 60-70 in WoW 2.0 = 6,762,300; in WoW 3.0 = 4,722,000. A reduction of 30.18%. |
| 18:00.14 | kd3 | hokay. diff emails out |
| 18:00.20 | ShaneSveller | nice |
| 18:00.39 | Lunessa | It does need a little tweaking in the "Anchor to cursor" 'but I <3 that mod. |
| 18:00.49 | Jelly-School | You would. |
| 18:01.07 | Lunessa | I heart it right in the face. |
| 18:01.07 | Jelly-School | In the face? |
| 18:01.07 | mikma | tried the other one, didn't like it and went back to TinyTip Thrae wink wink |
| 18:01.08 | Jelly-School | Now that's hardcore hearting! |
| 18:01.08 | alcaras | aye, but but only a little bit |
| 18:01.08 | alcaras | and no scary dogtags :) |
| 18:01.08 | alcaras | the default is happy, and the config lets me tweak slightly (e.g. health bar on top) |
| 18:01.08 | alcaras | so thank you :) |
| 18:01.09 | Jelly-School | No scary dogtags? |
| 18:01.09 | Jelly-School | ~hug ckknight |
| 18:01.10 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs ckknight |
| 18:01.11 | ckknight | howdy |
| 18:01.11 | ckknight | I'm esceared, alcaras! |
| 18:01.11 | Jelly-School | Since apparently purl is shy. |
| 18:01.11 | alcaras | I set up CowTip once, it took two hours... it was awesome. Then I lost my settings and yeah, well. :-( |
| 18:01.11 | Seerah | Lunessa: I just didn't want to put in the OnUpdate to move the tooltip every .0001 seconds |
| 18:01.41 | Mikk | If you run with vsync off you deserve to have it moved every 0.0001 seconds |
| 18:01.41 | Mikk | :P |
| 18:01.56 | Seerah | :P |
| 18:02.05 | Seerah | I just don't like it at the cursor period ;) |
| 18:02.12 | Jelly-School | Oh, I'm just harassing you. I don't care what mods you (or anyone, for that matter) uses so long as they work for them. I just happen to love the flexibility dogtags add. :) |
| 18:02.12 | nevcairiel | Shirik: you pinged? |
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| 18:02.22 | nevcairiel | Shirik: anyway, food first =P |
| 18:02.25 | ckknight | Jelly-School: hehe |
| 18:02.36 | alcaras | I like the flexibility dogtags add, I just wish I had saved my set up somewhere :( |
| 18:02.44 | Lunessa | Seerah: It's all good. TipTop does everything I want and more. I'm just a harsh critic even on things I love. |
| 18:02.45 | alcaras | I don't have the heart to redo it from scratch |
| 18:03.03 | alcaras | And TipTop works wonderfully right out of the box, so |
| 18:03.12 | Josh_Borke | what is tiptop? |
| 18:03.14 | Jelly-School | i have a folder called "dogatgs" with all my dogtag info in it backed upon my external and my laptop (before I formatted it) |
| 18:03.18 | Lunessa | Mikk: HAA! |
| 18:03.29 | alcaras | Jelly-School: That is clearly win. |
| 18:03.32 | Jelly-School | Seerah: Lunessa's a jerk. It's ok. |
| 18:03.34 | Cidan | oh snap |
| 18:03.40 | Cidan | New threat functions in 3.0 = <3 |
| 18:03.44 | Jelly-School | I wouldn't say win so much as ... I've been there. :P |
| 18:03.45 | Seerah | Josh_Borke: my tooltip mod |
| 18:03.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 18:03.49 | p3lim | you letting addons fly through unchecked atm? |
| 18:03.51 | Cairenn | kd3: I'm sure you answered me, but I missed it - do I need to start an "updated mods" thread on the Blizz forums? |
| 18:04.21 | Lunessa | Cairenn: He said no. |
| 18:04.24 | Lopeppeppy | Nope. |
| 18:04.36 | Jelly-School | PEPPY!Lunessa is being mean again! |
| 18:04.36 | alcaras | why does clicking on the wowi logo on wowinterface.com take me to some ghost house pictures page? |
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| 18:04.56 | Seerah | p3lim: no |
| 18:05.13 | p3lim | ok, just seemed way quicker checking than usual |
| 18:05.25 | Seerah | I've been approving mods for the past hour |
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| 18:06.19 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa dear, you know you should save all of that for me, Jelly doesn't appreciate you like I do. |
| 18:06.33 | Jelly-School | kinky |
| 18:06.35 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: rawr! |
| 18:06.56 | Jelly-School | At risk of having to cut my own wrists, That's hot. :P |
| 18:07.09 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* |
| 18:07.13 | Lopeppeppy | I aim to please. |
| 18:07.19 | Cairenn | Lunessa: thank you |
| 18:07.49 | Josh_Borke | alcaras: if you read closer that is just an add surrounding the wowi information |
| 18:08.01 | Jelly-School | Peppy: You /have/ to have a crazy streak to put up with all of us day after day. |
| 18:08.13 | Lopeppeppy | Jelly, everyone totally already knew that about me! :) |
| 18:08.20 | Lopeppeppy | People like alestane will only confirm it. |
| 18:08.30 | Jelly-School | I guess I wasn't privy! :( |
| 18:08.34 | Jelly-School | No love. |
| 18:08.52 | Jelly-School | Just toss me in the Seerah group, except I don't get default girl-love from Lunessa. |
| 18:09.00 | p3lim | btw, Seerah, that ad background seems to redirect me at random times |
| 18:09.01 | Lopeppeppy | You didn't have to deal with my paranoia in crowds either, unlike Shirik and Esamynn. |
| 18:09.05 | p3lim | (the simple list site) |
| 18:09.07 | Cidan | I would like to say, thank you Blizzard. Your new UI changes for 3.0 are great! <3 |
| 18:09.08 | alestane | What did you say? "I'm a Siamese; that's the first part of the problem" or something like that? |
| 18:09.32 | Jelly-School | You have paranoia in crowds? Orly? |
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| 18:10.03 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, yes. |
| 18:10.06 | Lopeppeppy | Jelly-School, yes. |
| 18:10.11 | Jelly-School | :( |
| 18:10.34 | Lopeppeppy | Meh. I had good strong company to keep me safe in the store-line. |
| 18:11.13 | Jelly-School | Dinos and Pirates all around you? I imagine everyone was at their best behavior! :) |
| 18:11.16 | Lunessa | Jelly-School: I'll be your peanut butter. |
| 18:11.31 | Jelly-School | Promises. Promises. |
| 18:11.31 | Lopeppeppy | Jelly-School, best behavior was not to be found amongst a one of us! :) |
| 18:11.44 | Jelly-School | Peppy: That's refreshing to hear. |
| 18:12.00 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: giggle, that's for sure ;) |
| 18:12.11 | Jelly-School | Are they making Blizzcon annual now? (Wasn't it supposed to be every two years?) |
| 18:12.31 | Seerah | it just happened to be two between the first and second ones |
| 18:12.40 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: luckily we kept most of our necking hidden from the boys, so there are no incriminating photos ;) |
| 18:12.51 | Lopeppeppy | I behaved myself at certain points, yes.... but at others, oh very no! |
| 18:12.52 | Seerah | there was necking??? |
| 18:13.04 | Seerah | omg! there's no mod in the queue! |
| 18:13.05 | Lopeppeppy | I believe it's Iriel that has a picture of Cairenn and I pole dancing? |
| 18:13.13 | Jelly-School | SEE?!?!? You al left Seerah out!!! |
| 18:13.13 | Lopeppeppy | Or is it Dolby? |
| 18:13.14 | alestane | I missed that one. |
| 18:13.18 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: I think it was Dolby |
| 18:13.37 | Lopeppeppy | Must bug the guys for photos, and where to upload mine. |
| 18:13.47 | alestane | Jelly-School: BlizzCon is scheduled on-demand rather than on a strict annual schedule. |
| 18:14.02 | Fisker- | nah alestane |
| 18:14.03 | Lunessa | Need more Vista Sidebar gadgets. |
| 18:14.05 | Fisker- | it's annual!1 |
| 18:14.12 | Cairenn | Seerah: every time we were necking, we couldn't find you :( would have gladly included you ;) |
| 18:14.14 | NeoTron | Seerah: man.. I want to test my addons first before I put them up on wowi |
| 18:14.32 | Fisker- | (Btw: At the Blizzcon stream(online/directv) they actually did say it was annual) |
| 18:14.32 | Fisker- | :P |
| 18:14.40 | Jelly-School | OWNT! |
| 18:14.43 | Esamynn | good morning Lopeppeppy, what can I do for you? |
| 18:14.46 | Seerah | NeoTron: hehe - that's okay, I have to go to work :P |
| 18:14.46 | Jelly-School | OWNT TO THE EXTREME FACE THING |
| 18:15.12 | Seerah | we got extra time with Esa yesterday :P |
| 18:15.28 | alestane | Fisker-: That's a comparatively new decision then. |
| 18:16.43 | Tornhoof | i guess they realised that they actually make money with blizzcon ;) |
| 18:16.48 | *** part/#wowuidev Seerah (n=Ryan_L@adsl-177-40-11.mem.bellsouth.net) |
| 18:16.58 | Lopeppeppy | Esamynn, PM me with somewhere to send/get you my pictures from the con, and I'll do that tonight! |
| 18:17.12 | Esamynn | oh oh |
| 18:17.27 | Fisker- | Well alestane i was just thinking it was more of a mistake on the announcers part |
| 18:17.28 | Esamynn | http://blizzcon.norganna.org/ <- i'll make you a user |
| 18:17.32 | Fisker- | But hey, why not? |
| 18:17.46 | Cidan | poor WoWInterface |
| 18:17.49 | Cidan | it's getting hammered |
| 18:17.57 | Tekkub | huzzah pics |
| 18:18.02 | Cidan | Like my exgirlfriend at a bar, D= |
| 18:18.07 | Fisker- | and your mom D: |
| 18:18.09 | Lopeppeppy | Excellent, Esamynn! Thank you very muchlyful. |
| 18:18.16 | Cidan | Fisker-: That too, D= |
| 18:18.17 | Fisker- | Though not at a bar |
| 18:18.19 | Fisker- | ololol |
| 18:18.47 | Cidan | Fisker-: Yeah, I bet you like them old, don't you? You want to hit that 65 year old stuff, eh? |
| 18:18.54 | Cidan | Fisker-: Weirdo. =D |
| 18:18.55 | Fisker- | >:E |
| 18:19.30 | Cidan | This is what I normally do to your mom jokes. Most people don't realize how old mom's are, =D |
| 18:19.35 | Cidan | Well, my mom ayway |
| 18:19.44 | Cidan | anyway, not all moms, jesus, I'm just going to shut up now. |
| 18:19.53 | Josh_Borke | cidan: i'd tap it |
| 18:20.59 | Jelly-School | Cidan: Lunessa willingly signs up. |
| 18:21.12 | Lunessa | Hey... My cut off is 60 thank you very much |
| 18:21.29 | Jelly-School | Oh, I thought you liked the osteoporosis |
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| 18:22.00 | Lopeppeppy | You males are hideous. |
| 18:22.00 | Jelly-School | ~giggle |
| 18:22.01 | purl | teeheehee! |
| 18:22.03 | Cidan | Indeed |
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| 18:22.19 | Cidan | A woman mearly has to come in here, and boom, men are all over them. |
| 18:22.42 | Jelly-School | There are no women on the internetz. |
| 18:22.49 | Cidan | Yes yes, gb24chan, etc. |
| 18:23.03 | Jelly-School | What the hell? |
| 18:23.04 | Cidan | I'm serious. It's nuts, NUTS I tell you. |
| 18:23.15 | Duman | whee |
| 18:23.19 | haste | that joke left 4chan ages ago |
| 18:23.26 | Jelly-School | FYI: I've been to 4chan MAYBE three times in my entire life so I don't get it. |
| 18:23.31 | Fisker- | gb2/b/ haste |
| 18:23.40 | haste | already there slowpoke |
| 18:23.46 | Fisker- | :( |
| 18:23.56 | Fisker- | You are the cancer that's killing /b/ |
| 18:24.19 | haste | u no |
| 18:24.20 | Cidan | Fisker-: Christ, it was bad at Otakon this year, Saturday night, bunch /b/tards acting stupid |
| 18:24.37 | ScytheBlade1 | They do anything else? |
| 18:24.37 | kneeki | lol |
| 18:24.39 | haste | I bet it was much worse last year when they actually had a panel |
| 18:24.45 | Cidan | Fisker-: And all day Friday and Saturday, bunch of people playing Rick Astley on boom boxes, with masks |
| 18:24.48 | kneeki | I can't figure out how to get to that gb2 thing |
| 18:25.20 | Nom- | The realm list is shrinking... they must be getting ready to bring it all back |
| 18:25.42 | morkii | in like 3 hours |
| 18:25.44 | Nom- | oh well zzz time |
| 18:25.48 | alcaras | Nom-: Either that, or they've decided enough is enough and it's time to take Bartle's advice and shut down wow forever. |
| 18:25.51 | Cidan | 2 and a half, THANK YOU VERY MUCH |
| 18:26.01 | cogwheel | took the forums long enough to die this morning... |
| 18:26.22 | kd3 | har... 14:30 eastern? that's pretty good |
| 18:26.23 | Cidan | Cairenn: This is why I shut my mouth. |
| 18:26.24 | Jelly-School | Two and a half will quickly turn into four which will quickly turn into eight which wil*DIVIDE BY ZERO* |
| 18:26.36 | Cidan | Cairenn: Besides, you're a hot mom. |
| 18:26.44 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 18:26.55 | haste | in b4 Cidan complains about another /b/ joke! D: |
| 18:27.10 | Cidan | Jelly-School: gb24chan |
| 18:27.19 | ScytheBlade1 | I love it, the forums died |
| 18:27.23 | Cidan | in after Cidan complains about another /b/ joke |
| 18:27.44 | Jelly-School | Cidan: Jelly-SchoolFYI: I've been to 4chan MAYBE three times in my entire life so I don't get it. |
| 18:28.23 | Lunessa | http://xkcd.com/322/ |
| 18:29.15 | jaxdahl2 | sage this conversation now |
| 18:30.00 | Cidan | Jelly-School: Cidan: Jelly-SchoolIFYI: I've been to 4chan MAYBE three times in my entire life so I don't get it. |
| 18:31.03 | Jelly-School | h8 |
| 18:31.07 | Jelly-School | h8h8h8h8h8h8h8h8h8h8 |
| 18:31.14 | Cidan | Easy there Kefka. |
| 18:31.18 | Cidan | No need to get all worked up. |
| 18:31.48 | Cidan | Apple Announces New MacBook, Pro, Air |
| 18:31.49 | Cidan | huh |
| 18:31.51 | Cidan | neat |
| 18:32.40 | Jelly-School | h8\ |
| 18:32.43 | Cidan | What does SPH stand for? Someone is swearing it's a term used in WoW. |
| 18:32.49 | kneeki | ... hmm |
| 18:32.59 | Jelly-School | Slave Pens Heroic? |
| 18:33.21 | kneeki | After browsing 4chan a little (my first time) some of the images have uhm... questionably aged girls |
| 18:33.28 | kneeki | Is this stuff moderated? |
| 18:33.36 | Duman | heh |
| 18:33.38 | kd3 | no |
| 18:33.51 | Pneumatus | yeh, all the non-kp is deleted |
| 18:33.56 | kneeki | That's frightening |
| 18:34.06 | Cidan | kneeki: Yes and no. So long as it's not actual CP, it stays up. Kinda sad. |
| 18:34.22 | kneeki | Yeah, it freaks me out |
| 18:35.35 | Jelly-School | Hmm. |
| 18:35.40 | Jelly-School | CP on the internets. No thanks. |
| 18:36.09 | kneeki | clearing your browser cache is something you defenatly want to do after vising 4chan |
| 18:36.11 | kneeki | -_- |
| 18:36.12 | Cidan | pretty sure the mods there have a "send to FBI" check box on their ban forms. |
| 18:36.24 | Duman | just use chrome's "incognito" windows :-P |
| 18:36.27 | Duman | haha |
| 18:36.41 | *** join/#wowuidev Iriel (n=Iriel@adsl-71-158-244-138.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 18:36.41 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Iriel] by ChanServ |
| 18:36.44 | haste | or midori, as it has no cache functionality yet |
| 18:36.51 | Fisker- | watch out, it's Iriel |
| 18:36.58 | Cidan | or Lynx, it... uh... shit. |
| 18:37.03 | Duman | heh |
| 18:37.03 | Jelly-School | I'm at school. lol |
| 18:37.36 | Jelly-School | No thanks on all of the above. Don't really have any desire to go there anyway. Dick/Fart/Scat/CP jokes? no thanks. :P |
| 18:37.37 | Duman | man, lots of ipv6 discussion at this NANOG |
| 18:37.49 | Cidan | Duman: mmm? |
| 18:37.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Duman: good |
| 18:38.03 | Duman | I mean, moreso than normal |
| 18:38.09 | Duman | like every other talk is about v6 |
| 18:38.13 | Duman | and yes, that's good :) |
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| 18:39.01 | Duman | and someone keeps fucking with the lights in this conference room, and I'm about to killabitch |
| 18:39.15 | Cidan | Does freenet still have an ipv6 server? |
| 18:39.24 | ScytheBlade1 | freenet? No idea |
| 18:39.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Freenode? yes? |
| 18:39.30 | Duman | heh |
| 18:39.31 | Cidan | er |
| 18:39.40 | Cidan | freenode, even |
| 18:39.47 | Shirik | hihihiihihiih |
| 18:40.08 | nevcairiel | Shirik you pinged way earlier? |
| 18:40.10 | Cidan | Shirik: hi. |
| 18:40.23 | Shirik | probably but I forgot |
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| 18:40.36 | Jelly-School | http://xkcd.com/461/ <-- any trip i've ever taken |
| 18:40.43 | Duman | lots of the servers have v6 addrs |
| 18:41.11 | Fisker- | ARGH |
| 18:41.14 | Fisker- | updates for windows |
| 18:41.26 | Codex| | anyone know of a vanity-pet-checker or mount-checker to check on tooltip over (kind of like recipes) if, lets say in the AH, if you mouse over a vanity pet, wether you have it already or not? (for us collector types) |
| 18:41.28 | Dewin | heh jelly, xkcd rocks. |
| 18:41.42 | Fisker- | Newest one is awesome |
| 18:41.44 | Dewin | Codex: I'm guessing since they're treated as spells now they'll show as already known? |
| 18:42.33 | Codex| | but the addons which currently detect known recipes like alreadyknown dont handle vanitypets or mounts yet |
| 18:42.36 | Codex| | im looking for one that does |
| 18:43.49 | Duman | woo, generic webpage error for the forums now, heh |
| 18:44.08 | Tekkub | damn wow, install your fucking update |
| 18:44.25 | Dewin | Yeah, it takes forever to install |
| 18:44.28 | Tekkub | it asked me to move shit to a "public: floder to avoid issues, then just quit |
| 18:44.38 | Lopeppeppy | Vista is just sweet. |
| 18:44.38 | Tekkub | I can't get the installer to start |
| 18:44.51 | Fisker- | QQ |
| 18:44.54 | Dewin | at least patch #2 installs like instantly |
| 18:45.00 | Fisker- | You must restart your computer for the updates to take effect |
| 18:45.02 | ScytheBlade1 | No joke |
| 18:47.28 | Duman | lol |
| 18:47.36 | Josh_Borke | Tekkub: run updater as admin |
| 18:48.04 | Tekkub | nada |
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| 18:49.29 | Cidan- | woo, ipv6? |
| 18:49.50 | Jelly-School | http://xkcd.com/318/ alt tag. kek |
| 18:49.53 | Duman | yeah |
| 18:49.59 | Duman | you can has v6 |
| 18:50.20 | Cidan- | I want the interwebs to switch to ipv6 for main stream use |
| 18:50.27 | Duman | soon |
| 18:50.32 | Duman | well, we'll need to anyway |
| 18:50.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Duman: that sounds oddly blizzard-like |
| 18:50.58 | Duman | goin to run out of v4 addrs in like 2 years, give or take |
| 18:51.04 | Cidan- | Indeed. |
| 18:51.18 | Cidan- | I just hate NATing |
| 18:51.19 | Cidan- | :/ |
| 18:52.11 | Dewin | Meh, when the internet finally switches to ipv6 I'll just sign off forever and spend the rest of my life at ::1 |
| 18:52.22 | Lopeppeppy | I want to learn to crochet IP addresses. |
| 18:52.28 | Duman | haha! |
| 18:52.50 | Dewin | Verizon, your site sucks. |
| 18:53.08 | Cidan- | s/your site sucks/you suck/ |
| 18:53.17 | Shirik | :( |
| 18:53.20 | Shirik | I like verizon |
| 18:53.24 | Dewin | nah, I'm withholding that judgement for the time being |
| 18:53.42 | Cidan- | s/verizon/penis/ |
| 18:53.43 | Cidan- | ? |
| 18:53.50 | Dewin | I checked to see if we could get FiOS here a few months ago, answer was 'no, but it is a Verizon area so you'll get it eventually' |
| 18:53.52 | Cidan- | Sorry, that was horrible and not nice. |
| 18:54.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Duman: so then, what are the chances that Comcast will spit out IPv6 addresses for my multiple computers? <3 |
| 18:54.12 | Dewin | Then I got an ad in the mail for their fios TV package. |
| 18:54.15 | Shirik | at least you don't have brighthouse, Cide |
| 18:54.17 | Shirik | Cidan |
| 18:54.20 | Cidan- | HAH |
| 18:54.22 | Cidan- | IT BEGINS |
| 18:54.25 | Shirik | :( |
| 18:54.28 | Cidan- | Cide: Sucks to be you! |
| 18:54.30 | Duman | sbo: well, there are like 5ppl from comcast here, and I know one personally... so I can ask her :) |
| 18:54.36 | ScytheBlade1 | DO IT |
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| 18:54.36 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Zootfizzle] by ChanServ |
| 18:54.43 | Lopeppeppy | Eat more cookies, IMO. *hugs* |
| 18:54.46 | Duman | but she won't peer w/ us |
| 18:54.51 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, do not break the Sprockets. |
| 18:54.52 | Jelly-School | ~hug Zootfizzle |
| 18:54.52 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Zootfizzle |
| 18:54.54 | *** part/#wowuidev Cidan- (n=feh@2001:5c0:8d2b:0:20e:a6ff:fe70:7127) |
| 18:54.59 | Cidan | So |
| 18:55.04 | Shirik | so |
| 18:55.06 | Zootfizzle | Heya! |
| 18:55.11 | kd3 | har. forums still 503ing |
| 18:55.12 | Cidan | Heyooo |
| 18:55.20 | Duman | yeah, forums be sad |
| 18:55.21 | Lopeppeppy | Forums will be fuxxored, that's just a given. |
| 18:55.22 | Shirik | I'm at SRS review right now |
| 18:55.23 | Shirik | fun times! |
| 18:55.27 | Dewin | I don't like the hard bandwidth cap they instated without sending me any written notice. |
| 18:55.30 | Shirik | my paper is a mess with cross outs, etc. |
| 18:55.33 | Cidan | Also, knowing Comcast, they will give you one (1) IPv6 address. |
| 18:55.36 | Dewin | I'll never actually HIT it, but I still don't like it. |
| 18:55.40 | Cidan | And charge you for more. |
| 18:56.15 | Duman | at least ARIN is handing out ipv6 addr blocks like crack-candy |
| 18:56.22 | jaxdahl2 | you get a IPV6 address from comcast? |
| 18:56.25 | Cidan | Which I'm not sure is a good thing. |
| 18:56.26 | ScytheBlade1 | If they give me a single IPv6 address I'll switch |
| 18:56.34 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd stab them |
| 18:56.52 | p3lim | is there a new event called UNIT_POWER or something now? |
| 18:56.59 | Tornhoof | are ipv6 adresses still provider based? |
| 18:57.12 | Cidan | I have... 48,000 IPv6 IP's, I don't even have an idea of what to do with them. |
| 18:57.17 | Cidan | I use... 3? |
| 18:57.20 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got millions of IPv6 addresses as-is via tunnel, if I was given a single IP I'd be pissed |
| 18:57.25 | Duman | v6 allocations are "just" like v4 addrs... just a lot bigger, usually ;) |
| 18:57.32 | Tornhoof | ah ok |
| 18:57.39 | Dewin | UNIT_RUNIC_POWER p3lim? |
| 18:57.46 | Dewin | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/Unit_Info |
| 18:57.48 | p3lim | no, just an update or whatever to UNIT_MANA |
| 18:57.49 | Tornhoof | thought they would finally forget that old allocations |
| 18:57.57 | p3lim | so I dont have to register UNIT_ENERGY, UNIT_RAGE etc |
| 18:58.15 | ShaneSveller | p3lim: I'm fairly sure that's what it is, yeah |
| 18:58.19 | ShaneSveller | UNIT_POWER |
| 18:58.23 | ShaneSveller | and UNIT_POWERMAX |
| 18:58.28 | p3lim | ok |
| 18:58.31 | p3lim | thanks :) |
| 18:58.37 | Dewin | hmm, wowwiki needs updated then |
| 18:59.23 | Dewin | in 2 hours I'll get to see if I actually got my molten core achievement. |
| 18:59.43 | Cairenn | nevcairiel: ping? |
| 19:00.04 | Dewin | Interesting. |
| 19:00.17 | Dewin | earlier the launcher was graying out the public test button |
| 19:00.20 | Dewin | but now it's back. |
| 19:00.36 | Lunessa | ahem, anyone got patch notes around? |
| 19:00.52 | ShaneSveller | Lunessa: no official ones yet till the servers go live |
| 19:00.53 | ambethia | fuck the patch notes |
| 19:00.56 | ambethia | grr |
| 19:01.03 | Dewin | Umm... the patcher provides patch notes |
| 19:01.17 | ambethia | its a mangled mess |
| 19:01.25 | Dewin | Howso? |
| 19:01.25 | Lunessa | Patches have d/l'ed and applied for some, no? I'm looking for the client ones. |
| 19:01.31 | Dewin | path\to\wow\patch.html |
| 19:02.20 | Jelly-School | ~bored |
| 19:02.21 | purl | La ... lalalala ... beer! |
| 19:02.23 | Dewin | Lunessa: Want me to send it to you? |
| 19:02.31 | Fisker- | BLARGH |
| 19:02.45 | Lunessa | dewin ys pls. matt_converse@hotmail.com (not secret) |
| 19:02.55 | Dewin | I was just going to dcc it heh |
| 19:03.34 | Lunessa | that works too. |
| 19:03.36 | Tekkub | *cry* |
| 19:03.45 | Tekkub | I still can't get the update to install |
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| 19:04.06 | morkii | installed fine for me |
| 19:04.06 | Dewin | Tekkub: It's okay, you still have 2 hours to fix it |
| 19:04.34 | Tekkub | installer just flat out won't load |
| 19:04.40 | Dewin | does the downloader run at least? |
| 19:05.01 | Tekkub | I had it already downloaded |
| 19:05.19 | Dewin | yes, but it still will try to 'download' it (it'll open the downloader and check the files) |
| 19:05.44 | Tekkub | yes, the downloader will check the files just fine, then not lauch the installer |
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| 19:06.14 | Dewin | Oddness |
| 19:06.27 | Dewin | try deleting the downloader (not the 1.2 GB of torrents) and starting again? |
| 19:06.55 | Duman | tekkub: run it manually? |
| 19:06.59 | Duman | look in te "Updates" folder |
| 19:07.01 | Lunessa | For those who want to see them... http://theroundtable.wowstead.com/forums/thread/141#292 |
| 19:07.10 | Tekkub | it won't run! |
| 19:07.25 | Duman | uh |
| 19:07.33 | Duman | as in, it just does nothing? weird. |
| 19:07.41 | Tekkub | more specifically, it opens and closes immediately |
| 19:07.43 | Dewin | Tekkub: For the second patch I had it have a fairly long delay, and then it failed spectacularly because I had two copies running. |
| 19:07.46 | Duman | hmm |
| 19:08.21 | Duman | yeah make sure another copy of the updater isn't already running |
| 19:08.23 | Tekkub | nah I see it in taskman, it's not staying open |
| 19:08.34 | morkii | uap on vista? |
| 19:08.41 | Tekkub | UAC is OFF |
| 19:08.50 | ZealotOnAStick | have you tried something silly and insultingly simple, like shutting off and restarting the system? |
| 19:08.56 | Brimm | looking for a suggestion for a buff tracking mod, similar to Buffalo if you are familiar with that one (it broke with 3.0 =( ) |
| 19:08.57 | Tekkub | has been since 5 min after I installed Vista |
| 19:09.13 | Dewin | wow, I have patch notes all the way from - World of Warcraft Client Patch (2004-11-07) |
| 19:09.30 | ZealotOnAStick | Brimm: Buffalo has had some recent updates that should fix it. |
| 19:09.36 | Wikwocket | Brimm, what kind of tracking do you need? Timers? |
| 19:09.37 | Tekkub | ZealotOnAStick, I do not restart unless downright forced to |
| 19:09.37 | Brimm | !! |
| 19:09.39 | ZealotOnAStick | There's also Bison, which is based on Buffalo2 |
| 19:10.13 | p3lim | grr, blizzard has set the worldmap to autofocus on subzone change |
| 19:10.15 | ZealotOnAStick | Or if you prefer bars, ElkBuffBars or SatrinaBuffFrames |
| 19:10.17 | Brimm | Just a way to separate buffs/debuffs/poisons and position them |
| 19:10.21 | p3lim | impossible to read map while flying/taxi |
| 19:10.30 | Brimm | Elk can only display as bars as far as I can see (tweaked a bit with it) |
| 19:10.43 | ZealotOnAStick | Tekkub: if all else fails, tis worth a shot. |
| 19:10.49 | Brimm | and Satrina is nice but does a few things different from Buffalo |
| 19:11.04 | Brimm | Zealot: do you know where those fixes are? |
| 19:11.17 | ZealotOnAStick | http://www.wowace.com/projects/buffalo/files/ |
| 19:11.19 | mikma | umm what is p3lim mumbling about |
| 19:11.21 | ZealotOnAStick | see if r209 works. |
| 19:11.31 | mikma | the map has been like that like, forever |
| 19:12.10 | p3lim | not on subzones |
| 19:12.41 | *** join/#wowuidev Dezzimal (n=Dezzimal@207-118-154-40.dyn.centurytel.net) |
| 19:13.20 | Brimm | hah, that version works - thanks Zealot (version I had must have been a previous revision) |
| 19:13.55 | p3lim | hm two more addons to fix and upload |
| 19:14.12 | p3lim | three* damn :/ |
| 19:14.33 | ShaneSveller | p3lim: which ones? |
| 19:14.51 | p3lim | oUF Perfect, oUF Experience and oUF BarFader |
| 19:15.17 | malreth | Lunessa: ping |
| 19:15.25 | Tekkub | I don't update tocs |
| 19:15.27 | Tekkub | :P |
| 19:15.37 | Stanzilla | bah |
| 19:15.39 | Stanzilla | do it |
| 19:15.39 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 19:15.46 | Josh_Borke | he just updates addons |
| 19:15.51 | p3lim | :p |
| 19:15.55 | Tekkub | my packager automatically does it for me when I push out a release |
| 19:15.57 | Stanzilla | I only want to see the bot spam |
| 19:16.02 | Stanzilla | I dont care about the number^^ |
| 19:16.04 | Tekkub | and most of my shit already has 3.0 tocs |
| 19:16.06 | Wikwocket | I don't like the idea of pushing a new zip, and having hundreds of people download it, just for a TOC number as well |
| 19:16.21 | Wikwocket | I do try to push new features when I would want to update the TOCs though |
| 19:16.24 | Tekkub | and I don't push releases on patch day unless something breaks |
| 19:16.28 | malreth | Tekkub: I read today that kilauea volcano was erupting fist sized rocks... for some reason i thought of you. <3 |
| 19:16.41 | Duman | lol |
| 19:16.55 | Tekkub | why? you're fucked up |
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| 19:18.11 | ZealotOnAStick | Tekkub, is the Tekticles I have from your site from like . . . a month ago or better, fine for 3.0.2? |
| 19:18.20 | ZealotOnAStick | Gimme a moment and I might actually have a version. |
| 19:18.31 | Tekkub | fine yes, but I did finally polish it up yesterday |
| 19:18.40 | Tekkub | that'll go out around the end of the week |
| 19:18.47 | Esine | anyone know if there'll be a full client available for 3.0.2 tomorrow? |
| 19:19.01 | ScytheBlade1 | US has a full client up |
| 19:19.04 | Esine | I'm planning to reinstall wow for 3.0.2 so I was thinking if I should download the full client or a million patches |
| 19:19.06 | Esine | oh |
| 19:19.09 | Esine | ScytheBlade1, and EU? |
| 19:19.10 | ScytheBlade1 | ... oh |
| 19:19.13 | Duman | oh |
| 19:19.15 | ScytheBlade1 | You mean from 2.0 --> 3.0? |
| 19:19.17 | ScytheBlade1 | That I have no idea |
| 19:19.17 | mikma | ah |
| 19:19.18 | Duman | you might be effed |
| 19:19.20 | ZealotOnAStick | 3.0.1.5 |
| 19:19.30 | Esine | ScytheBlade1, no I mean from 0 -> 3 |
| 19:19.33 | Fisker- | Download the client |
| 19:19.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Esine: TBC will take you to 2.0 |
| 19:19.45 | Esine | yeah. |
| 19:19.51 | Fisker- | Blizzard also disabled the pre-2.x downloads |
| 19:19.56 | Fisker- | so might as well just download the client |
| 19:19.57 | ZealotOnAStick | ok. If it works and doesn't throw errors and doesn't taint anything i care about, I'm fine. |
| 19:20.13 | Esine | umm |
| 19:20.27 | Esine | so I'll just dl latest full client I can find 2.something and patch it up |
| 19:20.34 | Dewin | Esine: There will probably be one big 2.0 to 3.0 patch. |
| 19:20.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Esine: you'll probably go 2.0 --> 2.4 --> 3.0 |
| 19:20.51 | Dewin | so people starting from 1.0 can do 1.0->2.0>3.0.1>3.02 |
| 19:20.55 | Esine | ok. |
| 19:21.00 | morkii | take your ipod to your buddies house and steal his fully patched wow folder |
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| 19:21.24 | Esine | better start downloading now.. is the patch up anywhere yet? |
| 19:21.27 | ZealotOnAStick | btw, nice damn job on Ampere. |
| 19:21.58 | Esine | ah :) http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors |
| 19:23.00 | Shirik | Ok, so we have this requirement here |
| 19:23.25 | Shirik | 4.1.8.4 The system shall funciton normally when encountering random operating vibration of up to 5g rms at 10 to 500 Hz |
| 19:23.40 | Shirik | Someone raises the issue "I don't know if that's grams or x gravity" |
| 19:23.44 | zenzelezz | 5 grams? |
| 19:23.44 | ScytheBlade1 | lol. How is that tested? |
| 19:23.52 | Shirik | ... yeah, because 5 grams is always measured in hz? |
| 19:24.19 | Shirik | but ok, fair enough |
| 19:24.56 | Shirik | I don't really know how to test it, ScytheBlade1, but that's a FMVSS regulation unfortunately so it has to be there |
| 19:25.00 | Tekkub | le sigh |
| 19:25.12 | Tekkub | IDEA! |
| 19:25.17 | Jelly-School | ut oh |
| 19:25.24 | Tekkub | *installs 3.0 on hubby's XP box, then copies it over |
| 19:25.30 | Shirik | rofl |
| 19:25.36 | Jelly-School | i love when the a/v equipment doesn't work for teachers. |
| 19:26.00 | Jelly-School | apparently pressing play over and over again will magically make it function |
| 19:27.08 | Lukian | Tekkub, it's faster to network copy than patch anyway :) |
| 19:27.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Jelly-School: its the same logic behind pressing elevator buttons repeatedly. ;) |
| 19:28.33 | Fisker- | what did they do to the forums? >:E |
| 19:29.06 | mikma | like what? |
| 19:29.07 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=11112&sid=1 <-does multi-paged threads list their page count underneath the topicname here for you as well? |
| 19:29.29 | Fisker- | hows blizzcon Shirik ? |
| 19:29.52 | Dewin | Fisker-: Imagine the biggest sports event of the year is being held somewhere and the only way to get to it is to drive on a one lane dirt road. Now imagine you are one of the cars on said road. That's what they did to the forums. :-p |
| 19:30.12 | Fisker- | :( |
| 19:30.17 | Fisker- | i hate the forums |
| 19:30.28 | Jelly-School | MC DONALDIZATION |
| 19:30.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Dewin: can we imagine Fisker-'s at the heart of a 15 car pileup, too? |
| 19:31.10 | Dewin | Night: Who am I to dictate what you can and cannot imagine. |
| 19:31.17 | Fisker- | Only if i'm dead NightHawkTheSane |
| 19:31.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Fisker-: i wouldn't have it any other way. :) |
| 19:32.05 | End | OH NOES IT'S GHOST HOUSE UNDERGROUND |
| 19:32.12 | Fisker- | I also think that freenode is psychic |
| 19:32.14 | End | oh wait, that's can't be a u |
| 19:32.17 | Fisker- | [freenode-info] channel trolls and no channel staff around to help? please check with freenode support: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp |
| 19:32.20 | End | Undergroind? |
| 19:32.24 | Fisker- | That's what i get each time i login :( |
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| 19:34.10 | End | wtf, omen update *runs around in little circles* |
| 19:34.55 | End | and it uses the new threat api! |
| 19:34.56 | End | zomg! |
| 19:35.02 | Lukian | no wai.. |
| 19:35.42 | Lopeppeppy | OMG! |
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| 19:36.45 | mikma | omg omen |
| 19:36.56 | mikma | still needed? |
| 19:37.04 | Josh_Borke | http://notalwaysright.com/behind-every-husband-is-a-brutally-honest-wife/216 |
| 19:37.23 | jaxdahl2 | mikma, for raiding guilds that need to cut it close, yes |
| 19:37.30 | Lopeppeppy | JoshBorke, ouch. |
| 19:37.37 | NeoTron | needed much less but useful none the less |
| 19:37.49 | Jelly-School | is that the 10 inches one? |
| 19:37.53 | NeoTron | Omen3, Diamond Threat Meter, err zThreatMeter maybe? |
| 19:37.53 | End | yes |
| 19:37.54 | kd3 | lmfao |
| 19:38.01 | jaxdahl2 | the built in threat meter worked very well for me as a tank in naxx |
| 19:38.05 | NeoTron | Omen won't be the only one though |
| 19:38.09 | Jelly-School | ...sad that i know them from the name of the url. |
| 19:38.15 | NeoTron | since all they are now are displayers |
| 19:38.16 | Ose | ok, so why are all my bartender bars gone and impossible to show? |
| 19:38.44 | jaxdahl2 | Ose, does that mean servers are back up? |
| 19:38.45 | malreth | Ose: because blizzard hates addons and wants you to stop using them now |
| 19:39.05 | mikma | ummkay, well i have to see what happens with the new threat-system =/ |
| 19:39.06 | Ose | i'm in EU sillies |
| 19:39.09 | Ose | 2.4 still |
| 19:39.21 | Jelly-School | .... had to pick the one damned desk in this room that squeeks BAAAD when I move |
| 19:39.35 | zenzelezz | Ose: did you update your Bartender or something? |
| 19:39.49 | Ose | I installed it earlier today bacause I knew my old interface was going boom at 3.0.2 |
| 19:40.08 | zenzelezz | I would guess that could have something to do with it |
| 19:40.18 | NightHawkTheSane | very likely. |
| 19:40.28 | Shirik | omg Josh_Borke |
| 19:40.37 | End | Jelly-School: Murphy's Law |
| 19:40.37 | Shirik | I almost cracked up in the middle of class |
| 19:40.44 | Shirik | need new term, NSFC |
| 19:40.49 | ScytheBlade1 | http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Angry_voter_threatens_Registrar_says_he_1008.html |
| 19:40.57 | Ose | [21:36]<Ose>i'm in EU sillies |
| 19:40.59 | Ose | [21:36]<Ose>2.4 still |
| 19:41.01 | Ose | [21:37]<Ose>I installed it earlier today |
| 19:41.12 | End | well |
| 19:41.18 | End | your interface is too new |
| 19:41.19 | *** join/#wowuidev Kirkburn (n=Kirkburn@wikia/Kirkburn) |
| 19:41.23 | Kirkburn | Morning |
| 19:41.32 | *** join/#wowuidev Thunder_Child (n=TC@cpe-76-171-31-114.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 19:41.38 | Ose | it worked fine 30 minutes ago!!!!111oneoneeleven |
| 19:42.31 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, the Shiibot redirect is not cool |
| 19:42.38 | Lunessa | malreth: pong |
| 19:42.46 | mikma | whats shiibot |
| 19:42.48 | Kirkburn | Btw, if anyone asks about CF2, no, I don't have the resources to update it personally atm. There's tekticles in the meantime, or anyone can update the wowace version (if someone tells me it's in good shape, I can package for other UI sites) |
| 19:42.48 | Lopeppeppy | Blame the nice bot attackers, Thunder_Child. |
| 19:42.48 | Shirik | It has been requested by freenode |
| 19:42.58 | p3lim | is there some documentation on UnitAura yet? |
| 19:43.03 | End | where does Shiibot dump you to? |
| 19:43.03 | p3lim | cant seem to find any |
| 19:43.04 | malreth | Lunessa: how's it goin? i've been scarce lately. |
| 19:43.06 | Lopeppeppy | Kirkburn, good to know. *hug* |
| 19:43.10 | Shirik | End: #shiibot |
| 19:43.13 | End | ah |
| 19:43.18 | kd3 | p3lim, http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitAura |
| 19:43.21 | Lunessa | Good to see you man. I'm doing ok. |
| 19:43.32 | Kirkburn | Lopeppeppy, :) |
| 19:43.37 | p3lim | when did that get updated :o |
| 19:43.42 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy, i dont mind that i cant talk but i do however like to have a log while i am sleeping |
| 19:43.46 | nevcairiel | Ose: i released the 3.0 version of Bartender just shortly ago |
| 19:43.53 | nevcairiel | Ose: i guess you updated |
| 19:43.57 | Ose | I did |
| 19:44.03 | Thunder_Child | and this does not let me just reconect to listen |
| 19:44.05 | Kirkburn | Also, post-BlizzCon *hug* for all. |
| 19:44.07 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: that's the sad reason I think Obama will be assassinated if he's elected |
| 19:44.08 | Shirik | sad but true |
| 19:44.13 | malreth | Ose: revert to the older version |
| 19:44.56 | End | That's why they gave him secret service unusually early :P |
| 19:45.01 | Ose | when I do /bt and go to the bar settings, I do not see a "show" checkbox |
| 19:45.12 | Ose | I don't see nothing on the tab at all |
| 19:45.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: yeah |
| 19:45.25 | Lopeppeppy | There's always the regular logs as a backup, Thunder_Child. The bot keeps the asshats from the channel, so when he has to do his job, some of the rest of us suffer a bit. |
| 19:45.31 | Ose | "enabled" checkbox I mean |
| 19:46.20 | Neuro_Medivh | wow... Curse has to be the most un-intuitive user interface for authors |
| 19:46.30 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy, yes, but this didnt use to happen |
| 19:46.56 | *** join/#wowuidev Gngsk (n=Gngsk@c-69-138-214-242.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 19:47.08 | Lopeppeppy | Nope, not until the botters got smarter. |
| 19:47.14 | Kirkburn | Ose, are you perhaps using the wrong version of BT on the wrong version of WoW? |
| 19:47.34 | Ose | it worked fine 45 minutes ago :( |
| 19:48.00 | Stanzilla | Ose: 21:44:17 ∙ malreth: Ose: revert to the older version |
| 19:48.22 | Kirkburn | ^ |
| 19:48.26 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: You have a few options |
| 19:48.35 | Ose | but but but |
| 19:48.43 | malreth | NO BUTS, MISTER! |
| 19:48.43 | Shirik | (1) Block redirects. This would put it back to +rR-f for you |
| 19:48.46 | Jelly-School | Thunder_Child: /hug |
| 19:48.59 | Shirik | (2) Identify better so that you don't join the wrong channel |
| 19:49.06 | Shirik | (3) Find a better way to block the bots |
| 19:49.09 | Ose | I don't understand why the old one would work beter |
| 19:49.26 | Stanzilla | ose |
| 19:49.27 | Thunder_Child | ty Jelly-School |
| 19:49.28 | Stanzilla | 21:43:49 ∙ nevcairiel: Ose: i released the 3.0 version of Bartender just shortly ago |
| 19:49.28 | Stanzilla | 21:43:56 ∙ nevcairiel: Ose: i guess you updated |
| 19:49.28 | Shirik | if your answer to #3 is just to permanently go +rR, see #1 |
| 19:49.30 | Stanzilla | l2read |
| 19:50.07 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, how do i perma +rR? |
| 19:50.19 | Ose | as far as I know I used the 3.0 version earlier and it worked |
| 19:50.37 | malreth | "as far as I know" |
| 19:50.39 | Ose | nevcariel: shortly ago = what? |
| 19:50.53 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: set usermode +Q |
| 19:51.13 | p3lim | are there more events than UNIT_AURA that is used with buffs/debuffs? |
| 19:51.24 | Ose | avcairiel* |
| 19:51.28 | Ose | ... |
| 19:51.34 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, ok, thanks |
| 19:51.42 | Ose | nevcairiel*(yes, iphail) |
| 19:52.06 | Josh_Borke | Shirik: :-D |
| 19:52.25 | Josh_Borke | Shirik: longer, but almost as good. http://notalwaysright.com/behind-every-man-is-an-embarassed-wife/448 |
| 19:52.39 | malreth | Ose: you have two choices. You can keep asking this question over and over in this channel while we give you the same answer for the next 5 minutes until we all ignore you.... Or you can spend 5 minutes and revert to an older version of BT and see if it fixes your problem. |
| 19:52.48 | Ose | meh |
| 19:52.53 | malreth | your choice |
| 19:53.01 | malreth | let us know if it works or not |
| 19:53.28 | Josh_Borke | ose: the problem is it cannot be compatible with 2.4 and 3.0 at the same time |
| 19:53.47 | Josh_Borke | ose: and since nevcairiel obviously favors US users over EU users, he provided an update to support 3.0 today instead of tomorrow |
| 19:54.00 | Josh_Borke | Ose: so in his own way, nevcairiel is saying the US > EU |
| 19:54.06 | Jelly-School | lol |
| 19:54.07 | *** join/#wowuidev Carancu (n=carancu@c83-255-70-30.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 19:54.22 | Jelly-School | Josh_Borke: I just got a weird look for snickering in class. thanks |
| 19:54.47 | Jelly-School | ~whalestab Thunter_Child |
| 19:54.47 | purl | ACTION stabs Thunter_Child with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 19:54.51 | Josh_Borke | ose: it's either that or nevcairiel is saying: "any EU person who updates today is an idiot who doesn't deserve support", whichever you would like to use :-D |
| 19:54.58 | Josh_Borke | Jelly-School: from the links? |
| 19:55.07 | Jelly-School | No. You. |
| 19:55.19 | Jelly-School | Pretty much breaking down to US > EU |
| 19:55.30 | Josh_Borke | lol, :-D |
| 19:55.35 | Josh_Borke | the links are WAY better |
| 19:55.51 | Josh_Borke | i don't normally laugh out loud when reading stuff online, but i definitely did with the first one |
| 19:56.00 | Jelly-School | Honestly, I looked at that website for like a week. I've seen pretty much all of the "older" ones |
| 19:56.09 | malreth | unless Palin gets elected and we all move to Europe in a panic AMIRITEGUYS? |
| 19:56.22 | Lopeppeppy | New Zealand, IMO |
| 19:56.25 | Jelly-School | NAILIN PALIN |
| 19:56.33 | malreth | Lopeppeppy: oooh, i like that idea |
| 19:56.41 | malreth | i'd be taller than all the hobbits there |
| 19:56.44 | Josh_Borke | meh, what's the worst that could happen? |
| 19:56.47 | Ose | why we talkin' Monty Python all of a sudden? |
| 19:57.02 | Jelly-School | Because talking about bartender got boring. |
| 19:57.18 | Jelly-School | ...and I think this devil-woman is about to release us. |
| 19:57.24 | Josh_Borke | because we stopped talking about bartender |
| 19:57.36 | Josh_Borke | isn't nevcairiel in the EU? |
| 19:57.44 | Josh_Borke | see, he doesn't even like his copatriots |
| 19:57.44 | mikma | Jelly-School: nsfw http://thesuperficial.com/2008/10/bfm_enlarged/enlarged-sarah_paylin_makes_a_porno.php?bfm_index=11 |
| 19:57.49 | Jelly-School | "Well, I am here until 5 this evening,should the need arise." *bags packed* |
| 19:58.15 | Jelly-School | Gotta go. Take care guys. |
| 19:58.27 | Josh_Borke | bb |
| 19:58.30 | *** part/#wowuidev ShaneSveller (i=40c71da2@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7517b77c009b8eba) |
| 19:58.42 | kneeki | mikma: Other than the glasses and hair style, she looks nothing like her =p |
| 19:58.52 | kneeki | I should know, my arm still cramps... |
| 19:59.02 | mikma | hehe |
| 19:59.32 | Lopeppeppy | ... |
| 19:59.48 | Ose | d'oh |
| 19:59.58 | Ose | now I know what happened |
| 20:00.13 | kd3 | ose; because the old one works in 2.4.3... the new one works in 3.0? |
| 20:00.18 | Ose | I ran the update thing on curse while playing... |
| 20:00.39 | Ose | so I didn't expect anything to have happende between logon and logoff |
| 20:00.57 | malreth | Ose: we expected it, though |
| 20:01.06 | malreth | because we can actually see your computer |
| 20:01.25 | Cide | funny |
| 20:01.31 | Ose | omigadz yoo ar FBI? |
| 20:01.37 | Cide | chrome lists incgamers.com as a dangerous site to visit |
| 20:01.45 | malreth | Ose: I wouldn't click on that... |
| 20:01.58 | Josh_Borke | cide: lol |
| 20:02.29 | *** join/#wowuidev Raegx (i=Raegx@cpe-74-74-156-254.rochester.res.rr.com) |
| 20:03.01 | zenzelezz | for crying out loud... fight through all the trash before Azgalor, pull him, go to 90%, server lags killing/DCing half the raid |
| 20:03.03 | Syzgyn | Speaking of Palin, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMyNk8J1c8g |
| 20:03.55 | NeoTron | zenzelezz: at least you can do it again |
| 20:04.17 | NeoTron | we had server crapup destroy our last ever bear run |
| 20:05.03 | Neuro_Medivh | clad, does perfectraid work in 3.0? I never installed it on beta... |
| 20:06.08 | End | Neuro_Medivh: it reformats your hard drive |
| 20:06.20 | Neuro_Medivh | hmm, that's not good |
| 20:06.27 | Neuro_Medivh | that's where I keep my porn |
| 20:06.47 | End | I think clad|away said he had an entirely new version in the pipes though |
| 20:06.53 | End | pipes might be frozen though ;-p |
| 20:07.05 | End | and they're lead pipes |
| 20:07.08 | End | and |
| 20:07.12 | End | I like abusing metaphors |
| 20:07.21 | mikma | i know clad|away has something in his pipe |
| 20:07.31 | Tekkub | I'm sure clad needs his pipes unclogged often |
| 20:07.32 | malreth | you're gonna get an ass full of pipe wrench! |
| 20:07.36 | Neuro_Medivh | well, he needs to lay some pipe then |
| 20:12.01 | kneeki | speaking of porn: http://notalwaysright.com/gadgets-morals-make-strange-bedfellows/32 |
| 20:14.05 | erikd | fileplanet is so damn slow with new patches >< |
| 20:14.16 | erikd | i might just have to cancel my sub and go with fileshack |
| 20:14.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Just use the downloader? |
| 20:14.25 | Maldivia | lol.... http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/11162777629-wtf-is-pdt.html |
| 20:14.27 | erikd | i want to make a mirror for guildies |
| 20:14.46 | mikma | man, honesty rules |
| 20:14.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Maldivia: rofl |
| 20:14.56 | ScytheBlade1 | hahahahahaha |
| 20:14.59 | *** join/#wowuidev Semhirage (n=semhirag@unaffiliated/semhirage) |
| 20:16.10 | mikma | yeah, no space ships today afaik =( |
| 20:16.20 | End | space ships? |
| 20:16.31 | Fisker- | damn |
| 20:16.36 | End | oh |
| 20:16.44 | End | right, Maldivia's link |
| 20:17.08 | mikma | i heard about it in the radio this morning |
| 20:18.20 | Syzgyn | So how long untill we get the "Maintenance has been extended for another 2 hours" message? |
| 20:18.28 | End | 2 hours from now |
| 20:18.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Soon. |
| 20:18.36 | End | that leaves a gap for bitchingf |
| 20:18.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Servers are supposed to be up in 40 |
| 20:18.41 | Syzgyn | Haha |
| 20:18.49 | End | because the servers aren't up and blizzard didn't post anything yet |
| 20:18.58 | mikma | no, message is about 6 houra! |
| 20:19.01 | NeoTron | what i never understand is why blizzard doesn't say "24 hour downtime" |
| 20:19.02 | Cairenn | Kirkburn: ping? |
| 20:19.10 | NeoTron | and then if they do it in 16 it'll be win |
| 20:19.13 | Fisker- | i killed him Cairenn |
| 20:19.19 | NeoTron | instead of 12 hours, do it in 16 and get flamed to death |
| 20:19.19 | Cairenn | :( |
| 20:19.20 | Fisker- | I wanted his Starcraft 2 key |
| 20:19.22 | Fisker- | :) |
| 20:19.27 | Syzgyn | Out of curiosity, does anyone else see 'Development' as the only region available after logging in? |
| 20:19.40 | Fisker- | That's normal |
| 20:19.47 | Syzgyn | Ok |
| 20:20.24 | Kirkburn | touche, touche |
| 20:20.43 | Lopeppeppy | Guys, get a room, jeez. |
| 20:20.57 | Kirkburn | So, er ... hello Cairenn :) |
| 20:21.39 | Neuro_Medivh | so, 40 minutes till QQ engines are charged to full? |
| 20:21.47 | Kirkburn | This party is in the open air, and it's staying that way |
| 20:21.47 | malreth | i just sneezed so hard that something came out.... :( |
| 20:22.00 | Dewin | malreth: It's okay. You only needed one lung anyways. |
| 20:22.07 | Maldivia | Neuro_Medivh: yeah, they are out shopping for carrots for the hamsters now |
| 20:22.14 | Thunder_Child | Neuro_Medivh, no, engines always have to be tested beforehand |
| 20:22.25 | Dewin | I still predict one minute of uptime. |
| 20:22.33 | Maldivia | Thunder_Child: what do you think the next 4 weeks are for? |
| 20:22.44 | Dewin | I figure it's a good prediction: If I'm wrong, yay it stays up. If I'm right, yay I'm right. |
| 20:22.49 | Josh_Borke | Dewin: for the websites or for the servers? |
| 20:22.58 | Dewin | Josh_Borke: The latter |
| 20:23.11 | Maldivia | Lunessa: daily routine? |
| 20:23.31 | Lunessa | Starting to feel like it. I got new hardware, and the software is being difficult. |
| 20:23.50 | Thunder_Child | Maldivia, playing games |
| 20:24.48 | Lopeppeppy | Okie dokie everyperson. Relax. Eat cookies. Relax some more. This is a trial run for the Xpack release date, so get some good habits going now. Relax! |
| 20:24.50 | malreth | aw damn... now i want a sandwich |
| 20:24.52 | Lopeppeppy | I'm goin' home, see ya. |
| 20:24.59 | malreth | bye bye! |
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| 20:25.34 | ScytheBlade1 | zomzomzomzomzomzomzomzomg Frostmourne is up! |
| 20:25.38 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 20:25.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Queue of >7000 people |
| 20:25.50 | kd3 | rofl |
| 20:26.06 | kd3 | geez. haven't seen those numbers since the flood of level 1s rolling on medivh to watch us open the gates |
| 20:26.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Holy crap Doomhammer is up |
| 20:26.10 | Dewin | A small number of servers are up... |
| 20:26.17 | malreth | o_o |
| 20:26.19 | Dewin | I have toons on one of them even! |
| 20:26.25 | Cairenn | nevcairiel: ping? |
| 20:26.25 | End | zomg |
| 20:26.37 | ScytheBlade1 | I am... somewhat... amazed truth be told |
| 20:26.45 | nevcairiel | Cairenn: pong |
| 20:26.48 | ScytheBlade1 | First they patch on the day they say that they will patch |
| 20:26.55 | ScytheBlade1 | And now we have servers up... 30m early |
| 20:27.02 | Cairenn | nevcairiel: PMs |
| 20:27.15 | Dewin | Scythe: 2PM to finish *all* of them |
| 20:27.26 | Dewin | they're likely being done in groups |
| 20:27.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Dewin: yes I know, that doesn't mean that I'm any less amazed |
| 20:27.59 | Lunessa | Yes, because it's a lot of boxes and work to bring up a single "server." |
| 20:28.11 | Drayeah | Hmm, I just played my shaman for the first time since ages and I noticed there were some totem cooldown icons below my mana bar. I don't think I had them the last time I played. Is this a standard UI thing or is it some addon that is doing that? |
| 20:28.15 | ScytheBlade1 | On this patch day? And have it be done on time? |
| 20:28.16 | ScytheBlade1 | This is a first |
| 20:28.17 | alestane | I figure one realm is probably at least 12 machines. |
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| 20:28.39 | Dewin | alestane: I seriously doubt it's "12 machines" from the perspective of whoever's sitting in front of it working on it |
| 20:28.57 | Dewin | Sure, it may be 12 actual pieces of hardware, but it's probably all abstracted into one system at one point |
| 20:29.07 | alestane | Hard to say. I think instances servers are actually shared between realms. |
| 20:29.34 | Dewin | I think a lot of stuff is flat out shared. |
| 20:29.55 | |Jelly| | Ok so I'm trying to download the patch and it's saying "Invalid Torrent" :( |
| 20:30.07 | ScytheBlade1 | I think Blizz should give tours of their data centers and document all of their internal server processes. |
| 20:30.07 | zenzelezz | Azgalor finally dies... 3xProtector |
| 20:30.11 | Josh_Borke | |Jelly|: I GOT THAT TOO! |
| 20:30.12 | Dewin | Limits how much data a given server has to keep. |
| 20:30.16 | alestane | And it wouldn't surprised me if a realm looks like at least four components, even if it has a "front man". |
| 20:30.27 | Josh_Borke | |Jelly|: i couldn't fix it. so i'm downloading it on another machine and i'll copy it over :-( |
| 20:30.32 | |Jelly| | :( |
| 20:30.36 | Lunessa | Drayeah: Those are a standard UI feature and have been in since 2.3 |
| 20:30.46 | Josh_Borke | though i only spent like 5 minutes trying to fix it as i was getting ready today |
| 20:30.54 | Dewin | alestane: My guess is they're all clustered together somehow, possibly running nfs shares to each other among other things. |
| 20:31.08 | Josh_Borke | nfs shares are terrible |
| 20:31.16 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 20:31.17 | Dewin | not neccessarily NFS |
| 20:31.21 | ScytheBlade1 | It's totally noy NFS |
| 20:31.23 | ScytheBlade1 | *not |
| 20:31.29 | morkii | oo servers are coming up |
| 20:31.34 | ScytheBlade1 | That would be an amazingly poor decision |
| 20:31.40 | Josh_Borke | my guess is large multi-master sql servers |
| 20:31.49 | Dewin | I'm talking for storing continent data and whatnot |
| 20:31.55 | ScytheBlade1 | !g oracle RAC |
| 20:31.56 | batbot | ScytheBlade1: Oracle Real Application Clusters 11g | Oracle RAC <http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/clustering/index.html> |
| 20:32.09 | Josh_Borke | continent data? |
| 20:32.35 | alestane | I'm sure whatever else is going one, there probably is one machine that you can run scripts on to update the whole realm. |
| 20:32.48 | Dewin | That was what I was thinking too. |
| 20:32.56 | Drayeah | Thanks Lunessa, like I said it's been a while. I just wanted to be sure I would not forget updating some addon tomorrow :-) |
| 20:33.01 | Dewin | NFS was a bad example but I was thinking more along the lines for transferring the software updates to the correct machines, etc. |
| 20:33.09 | Lunessa | Drayeah: You're welcome. |
| 20:33.15 | Josh_Borke | all yum updates! |
| 20:33.27 | Josh_Borke | or maybe they are running windows and use the window tool to push the updates out :-D |
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| 20:34.00 | Dewin | still can't believe my raid group downed Gorefiend on only its 5th-ever attempt (and the 4th attempt doesn't really count) |
| 20:34.20 | End | Gorefiend is easy if people can handle constructs |
| 20:34.25 | Dewin | We also had it glitch on one of the wipes, the constructs stayed up after the wipe |
| 20:34.26 | End | but umm, that's a big if :P |
| 20:34.27 | |Jelly| | Josh_Borke: That's pretty weak. It's going on my roomie's computer. :( |
| 20:34.29 | End | gratz though :) |
| 20:34.39 | Chompers | the "sorry i had lag" boss |
| 20:34.47 | Dewin | c'mon earthen ring. |
| 20:35.14 | Dewin | I'm good at the constructs, on my first time doomed they didn't even make it halfway to the raid |
| 20:35.30 | Josh_Borke | |Jelly|: vista or xp? |
| 20:35.33 | Dewin | person who was after me on that first run really sucked though, theirs DID make it into the raid even with me helping. |
| 20:36.05 | morkii | now that they're coming up how many times are they going to crash |
| 20:36.26 | Dewin | Earthen Ring still isn't up. bleh. |
| 20:36.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Over. Nine. THOUSAND. |
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| 20:37.07 | morkii | mine isn't up either it's usually one of the last |
| 20:37.30 | Dewin | Tempted to log in an alt on a different realm but no point |
| 20:37.47 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=6178288882&sid=1&pageNo=3#43 <-LOL, how do i internet. |
| 20:40.21 | |Jelly| | Vista |
| 20:40.28 | zenzelezz | Fisker- accidentally a internet!! |
| 20:40.54 | Josh_Borke | |Jelly|: same here. i had copied wow from another location to my user folder and that's where i got the error |
| 20:41.30 | kneeki | I'm sure it's not. But my realm always seems to be the last to get on the list. =( |
| 20:41.38 | |Jelly| | First time I've seen this error. Hope it's not something that happens every time now. |
| 20:41.38 | kneeki | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:42.20 | Maldivia | uhh... servers are comming up |
| 20:43.12 | Dewin | kneeki: Is yours one of the newer realms? |
| 20:43.18 | kneeki | Korgath |
| 20:43.29 | Dewin | Earthen Ring always takes forever too |
| 20:43.48 | Dewin | my first server that I have inactive toons on (Argent Dawn) is always one of the first up |
| 20:43.51 | Dewin | my current server is always one of the last |
| 20:46.29 | Neuro_Medivh | I would assume it's by server cluster... so the local cluster might get finished updating first |
| 20:46.46 | Dewin | My guess is they do them in order of when they added the servers |
| 20:46.56 | Dewin | but I did notice they tend to go up in groups |
| 20:47.08 | Dewin | and when a certain group of servers has issues, it tends to be the same servers every time in that group |
| 20:47.08 | Lunessa | Battlegroups most likely |
| 20:47.24 | Dewin | hmm... that'd make sense |
| 20:47.30 | Dewin | How do you check what servers are in a battlegroup? |
| 20:47.43 | alestane | I think the armory knows. |
| 20:47.57 | Dewin | I'd be curious to see if anything from Vindication is up |
| 20:48.02 | Neuro_Medivh | http://www.wowwiki.com/US_realm_list_by_datacenter |
| 20:48.37 | Dewin | no wonder my lag is so bad, my packets have to go to Dallas. |
| 20:49.12 | Dewin | Burning Blade is up, Earthen Ring is not |
| 20:49.17 | Dewin | and they're both Vindication |
| 20:50.00 | Neuro_Medivh | my theory is therefore debunked |
| 20:50.10 | Dewin | ... RP servers are in the same battle groups as PVP? No wonder why we suck so bad at bgs. |
| 20:50.44 | kneeki | Haha |
| 20:50.53 | kneeki | I didn't know that - but it makes sence |
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| 20:51.07 | kneeki | My battle group (horde) lose well over 90% of all AV's |
| 20:51.09 | morkii | I'll trade the latin american servers for the rp servers any day |
| 20:51.34 | Dewin | kneeki: It's okay. AV's the one bg the alliance can actually win :) |
| 20:51.45 | kneeki | Hah |
| 20:51.52 | Dewin | my last AV was actually quite horribad, but we still won. |
| 20:51.55 | morkii | how do you even coordinate with people that don't speak your language |
| 20:51.56 | Neuro_Medivh | are the Latin American servers bad? |
| 20:52.16 | Dewin | I was fighting a massive defensive really close to the alliance general, horde were swarming all ~15-20 of us |
| 20:52.17 | p3lim | did they remove the 'solo onyxia' archivement? |
| 20:52.20 | Syzgyn | Bah, of course my server is the only one I get stuck at 'Retreiving Character List' |
| 20:52.24 | Dewin | at the last possible second, our side killed drek. |
| 20:52.24 | Syzgyn | p3lim: yes |
| 20:52.30 | p3lim | got disappointed after soloing her a few min ago |
| 20:52.31 | Dewin | Syz: which? |
| 20:52.35 | Neuro_Medivh | morkii, I would assume that if you didn't speak Spanish, you wouldn't roll on LA servers |
| 20:52.39 | Syzgyn | Kel'Thuzad |
| 20:52.49 | morkii | no but we have some in our battlegroup |
| 20:52.56 | Fisker- | that's nowthing Dewin |
| 20:52.58 | kd3 | whee.. a battlegroup or two of realms just went splat |
| 20:52.59 | Fisker- | nothing* |
| 20:53.07 | Dewin | Kalecgos.. is that new, or just freshly up? |
| 20:53.07 | Fisker- | Someone made a traceroute that went something like this: |
| 20:53.09 | Neuro_Medivh | OH, you mean in BGs, sorry |
| 20:53.23 | Semhirage | argent dawn, gorefiend and mags just went poofty |
| 20:53.29 | Syzgyn | Nevermind, looks like my whole Battlegroup is having the same issue |
| 20:53.31 | Neuro_Medivh | I thought you rolled on an LA server and were complaining about no one speaking english =) |
| 20:53.33 | Fisker- | Egypt->New York->Holland->Denmark->Germany->France (Blizzard) |
| 20:53.34 | Dewin | heh, and they were the first up. |
| 20:53.43 | Fisker- | Should draw that on a map |
| 20:53.56 | morkii | lol |
| 20:54.06 | Dewin | packets with frequent flyer miles? |
| 20:54.22 | Fisker- | i think so >:3 |
| 20:54.30 | Dewin | Was that when the transatlantic cable mess was going on? |
| 20:54.49 | durcyn | hrm, what happened to UnitReactionColor :/ |
| 20:55.16 | Dewin | yay the *other* server I have inactive toons on is now up |
| 20:55.56 | jaxdahl2 | durcyn, check out UnitSelectionColor, i think |
| 20:56.13 | Fisker- | http://i34.tinypic.com/bwsol.jpg |
| 20:56.21 | Fisker- | Must be a nice ping he gets |
| 20:56.52 | NeoTron | playing on EU servers from Egypt => fail it seems? |
| 20:57.16 | Fisker- | I'd probably have picked another route :P |
| 20:58.45 | jaxdahl2 | i wonder how it gets to new york from egypt |
| 20:59.06 | jaxdahl2 | AFAIK it should be going through miami if it's going from egypt to new york at all |
| 20:59.11 | Wikwocket | Practice practice practice |
| 21:00.37 | Dewin | Why would it go to Miami jax? |
| 21:00.47 | Dewin | http://www.telegeography.com/products/map_cable/images/Cable_Map_big.gif a huge section of the transatlantic cables go to New York. |
| 21:01.13 | Dewin | though that's a bad picture |
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| 21:02.00 | Maldivia | come one server.... load that character list.... |
| 21:02.02 | Maldivia | on* |
| 21:02.03 | jaxdahl2 | http://www.telegeography.com/products/map_cable/TG_CableMap_1200x1600.jpg bigger |
| 21:02.21 | Dewin | thanks ;) |
| 21:02.28 | Josh_Borke | still too small |
| 21:02.28 | jaxdahl2 | all of NY goes to france or england |
| 21:02.43 | Josh_Borke | jaxdahl2: or brazil |
| 21:02.45 | Dewin | you're right, I see the egyptish<->miami link |
| 21:03.05 | Dewin | kind of a dumb route though |
| 21:03.12 | Dewin | since I think I see alternatives |
| 21:03.20 | Fisker- | Could be it went through Miami |
| 21:03.25 | Fisker- | Some of the hops weren't with hostnames |
| 21:04.26 | Neuro_Medivh | OMG, 2:04pm pst and my server isn't up, FIRE THE QQANNONS! |
| 21:04.43 | Fisker- | but the forums are down |
| 21:04.56 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=4927443677&sid=1#7 <-fail @ magelo btw |
| 21:05.28 | Neuro_Medivh | wow, Magelo is still around? |
| 21:05.32 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 21:05.57 | jaxdahl2 | it's really hard for people to understand that Magelo is not a 'good thing' even if it doesn't do any botting or anything and has been used and acknowledged in other MMOs |
| 21:06.26 | Fisker- | I still don't get why they don't just get over it and makes an addon for it instead |
| 21:06.29 | morkii | yea mine isn't up yet either |
| 21:06.32 | Syzgyn | It seems sorta shady to me |
| 21:06.46 | jaxdahl2 | another thing magelo can do is realtime location updates |
| 21:07.03 | ZealotOnAStick | Blackhand claims it's up, but I've been Retrieving Character List for 8 minutes the first time, then about 15 this second. |
| 21:07.08 | mikma | talking about failing... hi Fisker- |
| 21:07.21 | Thunder_Child | heh mikma |
| 21:08.45 | morkii | I like how the recommended server for me is one that is locked |
| 21:08.53 | Dewin | lol |
| 21:09.07 | Neuro_Medivh | still can't get past Retrieving Character |
| 21:09.25 | Dewin | I think that's happening on a lot of servers actually |
| 21:09.35 | Dewin | Argent Dawn couldn't load my character list, Scarlet Crusade is working fine |
| 21:09.43 | kd3 | presumably because world+dog are trying to log in on the few that are up |
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| 21:10.11 | Lunessa | You guys sound like junkies who can't wait for the fix to cook before shooting it. |
| 21:10.13 | Tuller | nachos |
| 21:10.14 | Dewin | I think a significant chunk is up now. |
| 21:10.21 | Dewin | just... not mine |
| 21:10.25 | End | Lunessa: where's my fix dammit |
| 21:10.35 | Fisker- | wee jaxdahl2 >:3 |
| 21:10.38 | Fisker- | that's "useful" |
| 21:11.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow, even launcher.wow.com is hosed |
| 21:11.05 | Dewin | nachos? |
| 21:11.06 | Dewin | share! |
| 21:11.09 | morkii | I'm lookin forward to tryin macaroon |
| 21:11.11 | ScytheBlade1 | The connection was refused when attempting to contact launcher.worldofwarcraft.com. |
| 21:11.17 | Dewin | morkii: What did you use before? |
| 21:11.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Bah |
| 21:11.23 | morkii | infinibar2 |
| 21:11.25 | ScytheBlade1 | SERVERALERT: |
| 21:11.25 | ScytheBlade1 | October 14, 2008 2:05PM PDT |
| 21:11.25 | ScytheBlade1 | We are in the process of bringing all realms up, some may not be available right away but all realms should be playable by approximately 3:00 PM PDT |
| 21:11.37 | Fisker- | IMMA CHARGING MY QQ |
| 21:11.50 | Fisker- | Knowing Blizzard our realm will have 36 hours of extended maintanence tomorrow |
| 21:12.06 | Dewin | morkii: You'll like Macaroon, that's what I replaced my infinibar2 install with as well. |
| 21:12.44 | ZealotOnAStick | Dominos ftw, imnsho. |
| 21:12.48 | Dewin | Feel free to bug me for help if you need it ;) |
| 21:13.04 | Dewin | since I'll actually know what you're talking about if you say "Well in Infinibar I could click this" |
| 21:13.38 | morkii | yea it's a shame he just quit |
| 21:14.04 | morkii | but I hear macaroon is better anyway |
| 21:14.45 | Dewin | the weird thing is I absolutely hated Trinity, but I love Macaroon so go figure ;) |
| 21:14.54 | Lunessa | Macroon is Maul's new baby. It looks better to me than Trinity. :) |
| 21:14.56 | morkii | yes I did not like trinity either |
| 21:15.09 | Lunessa | However, I'm going to go with Dominos I think. |
| 21:15.17 | NeoTron | when picking an actionbar |
| 21:15.29 | NeoTron | remember that Blizzard plans to make talent specs change your action bar layout |
| 21:15.47 | Lunessa | When that happens, I'll worry about it. |
| 21:15.48 | NeoTron | so if you use something like infinibar that doesnt use the normal action buttons, it won't work |
| 21:15.49 | Dewin | Macaroon has the option to use action IDs, though I don't currently utilize it. |
| 21:15.51 | morkii | I like to keep the blizz bars and just add more, so it works out great for me |
| 21:16.16 | Dewin | and my hunter talent spec changes won't really change much. |
| 21:16.18 | NeoTron | Lunessa: dominos should work fine |
| 21:16.20 | zenzelezz | "this Environment is 2nd on damage done now" |
| 21:16.53 | Lunessa | NeoTron: Yes, it should. :) Which is a key factor in my choosing it over other solutions. |
| 21:17.15 | morkii | the only thing I haven't been able to replace yet is cartographer2 |
| 21:17.34 | morkii | mapster is nice but I like mine completely full screen |
| 21:17.37 | Dewin | I wonder if DBM has the chat fixed yet. |
| 21:17.54 | Lunessa | Cartographer 3 should work for you. At least, it worked for me to collect map data in beta. |
| 21:18.06 | Dewin | oh good, it looks like it is |
| 21:18.09 | morkii | not a fan of that new style |
| 21:18.46 | morkii | and some zones seem to have different scales in it too |
| 21:18.59 | End | vroom vroom vroom |
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| 21:23.39 | Tuller | see, this is further proof that me scheduling a half day off on wrath day was the optimal choice |
| 21:24.22 | mikma | anyone with enhancement shaman going wotlk? |
| 21:25.12 | Lunessa | <--- |
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| 21:25.54 | mikma | Lunessa: care to check this talenttree out? http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=hE0AZhxgcoxzAIkzbRt |
| 21:26.12 | jaxdahl2 | 30 days to go until wotlk |
| 21:26.15 | mikma | i'm aiming for pvp with that build |
| 21:26.25 | mikma | that's why the 2/2 imp wf totem is missing |
| 21:26.52 | Fisker- | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=h is teh bests |
| 21:26.54 | Lunessa | mikma: Ok. It's very similar to my build, but I took the 2/2 Imprioved Windfury |
| 21:27.12 | Lunessa | Also, I think you want to consider Anticipation. |
| 21:27.32 | morkii | post yours |
| 21:27.48 | mikma | hmm yeah, -5 from elemental tree and +5 anticipation |
| 21:27.58 | mikma | err.. |
| 21:28.01 | mikma | it's only 3 :) |
| 21:28.06 | Lunessa | Also, for PvP, I'd take all three points of elemental warding. |
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| 21:28.17 | NeoTron | jaxdahl2: what sucks is I can play with new talents but not make my dk yet! |
| 21:28.46 | Neuro_Medivh | mikma, you talking about pve or pvp? |
| 21:29.02 | mikma | Neuro_Medivh: <0026> <mikma> i'm aiming for pvp with that build |
| 21:29.14 | morkii | that was to you Lunessa <- if you would |
| 21:29.33 | mikma | Lunessa: http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=hychZhxgcsxzAIkzbRt |
| 21:30.01 | Dewin | who maintains the 3.0 survival guide on WoWI? |
| 21:30.02 | mikma | oh... one more thin |
| 21:30.09 | mikma | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=hVchZhxgcsEzAIkzbRx |
| 21:30.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Dewin: WoWI does? |
| 21:30.21 | Dewin | well, I was thinking someone in here from wowi might pipe up |
| 21:30.21 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-rRf] by Shiibot |
| 21:30.22 | mikma | this might be even better, or what do you think Lunessa? :) |
| 21:30.29 | [dRaCo] | is there a release version of bt4 somewhere? |
| 21:30.42 | mikma | spirit wolves... pvp, 12% base mana, ouch! |
| 21:30.46 | Dewin | Cartographer is listed as not updated on the guide, but http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/cartographer3/download/297257.aspx is an alternative |
| 21:30.49 | Lunessa | mikma: Toughness doesn't seem like it's worth it to me. |
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| 21:31.11 | mikma | Lunessa: good against rogues and warriors, which can get shaman pretty easily? |
| 21:31.14 | Lunessa | Though the anti-slowing might be worthit in PvP. |
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| 21:31.30 | mikma | bingo, that's what i had in my mind |
| 21:31.40 | Dewin | In PVP, what would you say shamans are strong versus? |
| 21:31.42 | Lunessa | NB: Take all my advice with a pound of salt, I almost never PvP. |
| 21:31.58 | [dRaCo] | Dewin: enhancement? |
| 21:32.06 | Dewin | I've noticed that certain classes tend to be weak against some classes and strong against others |
| 21:32.07 | mikma | Dewin: hmm. shadowpriests |
| 21:32.55 | Dewin | I know my BM hunter eats them for lunch |
| 21:32.55 | [dRaCo] | yeah, but shadowpriests are about the only class that are easy for us now |
| 21:32.56 | mikma | druids are almost impossible to kill |
| 21:33.00 | Dewin | I once read a guide on how to handle the various classes in PVP as a shaman. I chuckled at the hunter bit: "Ignore the pet, unless it turns big and red. Then, you are going to die." |
| 21:33.06 | mikma | they either a) get away b) overheal |
| 21:33.23 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ Dewin |
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| 21:35.23 | morkii | Lunessa: does that mean no? ;\ |
| 21:35.38 | Dewin | arrggh. I like how it's the wotlk-specific version of arkinventory and still shows as out of date. |
| 21:35.39 | mikma | morkii: well... |
| 21:35.45 | mikma | morkii: i can paste the build |
| 21:35.48 | Neuro_Medivh | Enhancement Shaman are strong against other Enhancement Shaman |
| 21:36.19 | Lunessa | morkii: I'm sorry, I missed the question. |
| 21:36.22 | mikma | morkii: http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=hE0AZhxgcoxdAIkzbot |
| 21:36.25 | Neuro_Medivh | Actually, they're also very strong against every class, as long as that class doesn't notice that you are an enhancement shaman |
| 21:36.27 | mikma | most likely something like that |
| 21:36.36 | Lunessa | Oh.. POst my talents? |
| 21:36.39 | Lunessa | Give me a sec. |
| 21:38.34 | clad|sleep | If there are any "updated mods" threads.. can someone post that Clique is updated on wowi.. and that TomTom _should_ work for some things.. and the rest of my mods will be updated sometime tomorrow (GMT) |
| 21:38.49 | clad|sleep | I'd really appreciate it, I have to get to bed and don't have much time to track the threads down =( |
| 21:38.50 | Neuro_Medivh | clad, get some sleep |
| 21:38.53 | clad|sleep | but don't worry about it if you don't have em :P |
| 21:38.55 | mikma | oh hi clad|pipe |
| 21:39.01 | Neuro_Medivh | and stop waking up every hour |
| 21:39.01 | Lunessa | Here's what I'm using for PVE PWNAGE: http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=hVbAZhxxcsxdAIkzbRt |
| 21:39.03 | ScytheBlade1 | clad|sleep: they aren't there atm, we're likely running without them this round due to the survival guide |
| 21:39.11 | clad|sleep | schweet :P |
| 21:39.13 | ScytheBlade1 | clad|sleep: but random questions (once the forums work) sure |
| 21:39.16 | Lopeppeppy | clad|sleep, when the forums come up I'll find a space to make a note. Go to bed. |
| 21:39.19 | clad|sleep | not even on the wiki? |
| 21:39.23 | clad|sleep | thanks guys, really appreciate it |
| 21:39.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, maybe on the wiki |
| 21:39.28 | clad|sleep | been up since 5am.. and have to be up at 6am =( |
| 21:39.29 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: ^ |
| 21:39.41 | clad|sleep | but then tomorrow afternoon I can code on the beta servers until EU comes up, which will be nice |
| 21:39.44 | clad|sleep | and none should take too long |
| 21:39.49 | clad|sleep | *hugs* |
| 21:39.53 | Neuro_Medivh | I just hope praid works |
| 21:39.56 | Neuro_Medivh | =) |
| 21:40.05 | clad|sleep | the buffs won't. |
| 21:40.06 | clad|sleep | at all |
| 21:40.10 | clad|sleep | they'll probably throw errors |
| 21:40.31 | clad|sleep | tho honestly making the quick code changes for that won't take long, and i'll gladly accept a patch (Via cladhaire at gmail) ;-) |
| 21:40.32 | Neuro_Medivh | oh well |
| 21:40.37 | clad|sleep | happy patch day you guys :P |
| 21:40.42 | clad|sleep | see you in 7 hours |
| 21:40.43 | Neuro_Medivh | good night! |
| 21:41.14 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: BuyDropper work with 3.0? |
| 21:42.59 | kneeki | ... huh |
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| 21:43.07 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 21:43.12 | kneeki | Why did WoWI Just forward me to http://www.ghosthouseunderground.com/ ? |
| 21:43.24 | ScytheBlade1 | You clicked on the ad in the background |
| 21:43.25 | kneeki | ah |
| 21:43.29 | kneeki | it happens when I click on the black |
| 21:43.49 | kneeki | lol, i see no add. AdBlock+, but the link still works |
| 21:44.59 | Dewin | Anybody know of a good addon manager that can save profiles at a different level than per-character? |
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| 21:45.13 | Dewin | Ampere doesn't do what I'd like it to :( |
| 21:45.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Dewin: I wrote a small one myself. It's not hard |
| 21:45.35 | bleeter | man I feel ripped off... did that patch, fired up the game, turned down the lights, turned the amplifier up to 11... and get the BC cinematic wtflol |
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| 21:46.09 | Gngsk | first time i saw the bc cinematic |
| 21:46.13 | Gngsk | i enjoyed it |
| 21:46.17 | Dewin | bleeter: the BC cinematic still makes me googly sometimes :) |
| 21:46.27 | mikma | now i need to create a feralkitty talenttree. pff :I |
| 21:46.28 | Dewin | much moreso than the wotlk one anyways. |
| 21:46.30 | Tekkub | YOU ARE NOT REPAIRED! |
| 21:46.46 | Tekkub | the wrath one just don't do it for me |
| 21:46.55 | Dewin | same Tekkub |
| 21:46.55 | Tekkub | artie's just too... not scary |
| 21:46.57 | ScytheBlade1 | MY GRID, IT WILL NOT WORK |
| 21:47.07 | kd3 | meh, it did for me. the cinematic artbook's pretty damn cool too |
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| 21:47.19 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: your grid works? |
| 21:47.25 | Tekkub | oh, the rendering is damn pretty, yes |
| 21:47.30 | kd3 | iunno yet. still waiting on medivh |
| 21:47.31 | Dewin | ScytheBlade1: The good news is Grid2 should be resuming active development now. |
| 21:47.39 | Tekkub | I guess it's just that I don't care much about artie |
| 21:47.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 21:47.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Dewin: good |
| 21:47.58 | Dewin | Last I checked the author stopped working on it because he wanted to get a last chance to experience BC content before wotlk came out |
| 21:48.02 | Tekkub | it's probably cause of how often he sighed when I was doing the DK starter zone |
| 21:48.06 | Dewin | well, now that he can't use grid himself... :) |
| 21:48.09 | Tekkub | DEATH TO ALL! *sigh* |
| 21:48.18 | mikma | hey what's the talk about druids being able to get "another form", bear or so? |
| 21:48.40 | Tekkub | polar bear? |
| 21:48.42 | Dewin | grr on you earthen ring for not being up |
| 21:48.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha |
| 21:48.51 | bleeter | could be a drop bear |
| 21:48.56 | morkii | mine isn't up yet either |
| 21:49.07 | mikma | well, some people are saying that druids can shapeshift into polarbear? |
| 21:49.16 | kd3 | if they get the glyph for it |
| 21:49.18 | ScytheBlade1 | With a glyph |
| 21:49.25 | nevcairiel | Cairenn can you delete http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10327-MapsterWotLK.html ? I am updating the real copy for 3.0 now |
| 21:49.28 | morkii | and it doesn't do anything but change the look |
| 21:49.31 | mikma | ih, need to check it |
| 21:49.34 | Cairenn | nevcairiel: will do |
| 21:49.42 | Fisker- | will don't! |
| 21:49.50 | morkii | nevcairiel: plz for fullscreen option |
| 21:50.15 | ScytheBlade1 | nevcairiel: I totally just downloaded that :( |
| 21:50.29 | ScytheBlade1 | nevcairiel: like, 20 seconds ago |
| 21:50.44 | nevcairiel | I'm uploading 1.0.4 to the real Mapster project, its alot more up to date anyway |
| 21:50.57 | mikma | lol |
| 21:51.00 | Cairenn | nevcairiel: done |
| 21:51.03 | mikma | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=43331 |
| 21:51.22 | Fisker- | [23:50:18] <Horrorshow> well no not skipped |
| 21:51.22 | Fisker- | [23:50:20] <Horrorshow> left early |
| 21:51.26 | Fisker- | [23:50:35] <Horrorshow> Acted like i got on the phone mid lecture and was like " WHAT GRANDMA IS DIEING" |
| 21:51.35 | mikma | anyone knows the name of the polarbear glyph? |
| 21:51.36 | Fisker- | Morale of the story: Servers weren't up when he got home |
| 21:51.53 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 21:52.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 21:52.47 | ScytheBlade1 | oRA2 hasn't been updated |
| 21:52.49 | ScytheBlade1 | This saddens me |
| 21:53.07 | Lopeppeppy | ScytheBlade1, give it time! Patience is a virtue! |
| 21:53.08 | Dewin | hmm... Altoholic is giving me two minimap icons... like I had enough space for even one |
| 21:53.17 | Stanzilla | ScytheBlade1: it was O.o |
| 21:53.18 | nevcairiel | oRA authors are EU too, they dont even have 3.0 yet |
| 21:53.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Stanzilla: it's not on WoWI then |
| 21:53.37 | Brimm | My server's been up for 10 minutes- and I've been retrieving my character list since then |
| 21:53.46 | ScytheBlade1 | (I do two passes: one over WoWI, and now one over Curse for the rest of the Ace stuff) |
| 21:53.47 | Brimm | So even if your server comes up, doesn't mean you get to play right away :p |
| 21:53.53 | ZealotOnAStick | like 40 minutes and counting on Blackhand. |
| 21:54.24 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=6178440852&postId=61775762080&sid=1#1 |
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| 21:54.53 | kamdis | ~lart purl |
| 21:54.53 | purl | stuffs kamdis into a shiny new tin can and vacuum seals it |
| 21:54.53 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 21:54.58 | kamdis | boo |
| 21:55.04 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't think that was even me. |
| 21:55.16 | kamdis | heh |
| 21:55.20 | kamdis | well |
| 21:55.35 | kamdis | I'm going to blame you anyway. |
| 21:55.38 | ScytheBlade1 | YOU INSTALLED IT?! |
| 21:55.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Aww |
| 21:55.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Way to disappoint me |
| 21:55.49 | kamdis | haha! |
| 21:56.01 | kd3 | raaah, wru medivh? |
| 21:56.18 | kamdis | wru uther? |
| 21:56.33 | ScytheBlade1 | And Doomhammer! |
| 21:56.34 | Maldivia | why is my realm always the last :| |
| 21:56.35 | kamdis | stuck on retrieving character list or whatever |
| 21:56.42 | ScytheBlade1 | kamdis: I think everyone is |
| 21:56.45 | kamdis | aye |
| 21:56.52 | Maldivia | 4 more minutes.... |
| 21:56.54 | kamdis | probably because everyone keeps trying to retrieve |
| 21:57.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh man, there are several authors in here that I want to poke to make them upload some of their addons |
| 21:57.43 | kamdis | such as? |
| 21:57.43 | ScytheBlade1 | But I'm both lazy and understanding as I haven't even updated my one yet |
| 21:57.49 | Lunessa | Actually, Sunday in beta I helped some folks who couldn't get the vehicle UI to come up for a quest - the culprit was the Bejeweled AddOn. |
| 21:57.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Routes, Sanity2, GatherMate |
| 21:57.59 | kamdis | lol awesome |
| 21:58.03 | kamdis | i have another excuse |
| 21:58.06 | Chompers | like me, people are missing my hello world addon |
| 21:58.24 | kamdis | I don't even have Hello World. |
| 21:58.33 | kamdis | I leave addons coding to the smart people. |
| 21:58.51 | kagaro | GatherMat eis up on Curse |
| 21:58.56 | morkii | wow bejeweled broke something? |
| 21:59.13 | morkii | clearly the choice is to keep bejeweled and do something else |
| 21:59.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I'm just finishing my WoWI pass before moving over to Curse |
| 22:00.18 | kamdis | Thanks to the authors, wowi and curse :) |
| 22:00.19 | kagaro | ScytheBlade1: Ill get it pushed over to wowI after patch day |
| 22:00.20 | morkii | nevcairiel: ? |
| 22:00.27 | ScytheBlade1 | kagaro: ah, awesome |
| 22:00.34 | ScytheBlade1 | kagaro: thanks |
| 22:01.15 | ScytheBlade1 | kagaro: actually, do you have a svn/git link I could/should use instead? |
| 22:01.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Or would you prefer I use whatever you offically release? |
| 22:01.24 | kagaro | on wowace |
| 22:01.40 | kagaro | ill grab you a link |
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| 22:02.34 | kagaro | once the site starts responding again |
| 22:02.57 | ScytheBlade1 | hehe |
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| 22:02.59 | ScytheBlade1 | I know that feeling :) |
| 22:03.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Total count of addons I use: 27 + some of my own random ones |
| 22:03.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Not bad |
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| 22:04.31 | Lopeppeppy | Meh, I don't expect AD to be up tonight anyway, so I'm happy just to patch! |
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| 22:05.33 | Lopeppeppy | Bad person. |
| 22:05.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah :( |
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| 22:06.31 | Dewin | I wish I only used 27 addons heh |
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| 22:06.54 | Dewin | I use approximately 193 |
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| 22:07.05 | Dewin | y helo thar. |
| 22:07.10 | Dewin | though some are components of other addons and some are disabled |
| 22:07.14 | Lopeppeppy | Hai2U |
| 22:07.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: sigh ^ |
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| 22:07.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: sigh ^ |
| 22:07.27 | nevcairiel | Shiibot is failing again |
| 22:07.38 | ScytheBlade1 | And I generally nuke addons I no longer use. |
| 22:07.44 | kd3 | join/part spam? |
| 22:07.50 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: yup |
| 22:07.59 | Dewin | ScytheBlade1: I will once I have a confirmed list of what I am 'no longer using' :) |
| 22:08.05 | Dewin | Some of it stuff disabled because I need to update it still |
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| 22:08.32 | mikma | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=0ZxGMsfbd0eR0IzAobEczb <- pvp kitty :I |
| 22:08.50 | ScytheBlade1 | http://wowi.pastey.net/98264 is what I'm using atm |
| 22:09.04 | ScytheBlade1 | With a few more grab via ace/curse/whatever |
| 22:09.24 | cogwheel | ScytheBlade1: probably not |
| 22:09.24 | nevcairiel | no action bars at all? |
| 22:09.36 | mikma | blizz default = <3 |
| 22:09.39 | ScytheBlade1 | nevcairiel: I use Goose to hide it, and direct bind everything. |
| 22:09.39 | mikma | best of the best |
| 22:09.45 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 22:09.45 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: boo. :( |
| 22:09.52 | ScytheBlade1 | No buttons here. |
| 22:10.14 | mikma | you musy play rogue :D |
| 22:10.16 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: I take it, that it would be somewhat premature to ask you when it will work? :) |
| 22:10.25 | cogwheel | ScytheBlade1: maybe FreeRefills works? |
| 22:10.26 | nevcairiel | damn wowace page, load already, i need to download the auto-packaged 1.0.4 of mapster to upload it on wowi =P |
| 22:10.27 | ScytheBlade1 | mikma: mage.. I have my entire numpad bound three times over |
| 22:10.39 | ScytheBlade1 | mikma: in addition to something like 20 binds on my mouse |
| 22:10.46 | mikma | wow-mouse! |
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| 22:10.53 | ScytheBlade1 | mikma: and my entire left side of my keyboard is... a dizzying number of keybinds too |
| 22:11.07 | alcaras | ScytheBlade1: How many hands do you have? |
| 22:11.10 | mikma | :D |
| 22:11.14 | ScytheBlade1 | alcaras: two, sadly |
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| 22:11.25 | alcaras | Then you take your right hand off the mouse |
| 22:11.26 | ScytheBlade1 | And I just use a standard 5-button mouse |
| 22:11.27 | mikma | ScytheBlade1: are you capable of playing with your feet then? |
| 22:11.35 | ScytheBlade1 | haha, no. I wish I was |
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| 22:11.50 | morkii | I need to decorate my messages with flashing lights so nevcairiel can see it |
| 22:11.54 | ScytheBlade1 | brb |
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| 22:12.56 | Tuller | oh nice, got a bagnon_forever error since I never defined a print function for the thing :P |
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| 22:14.16 | mikma | oh wow |
| 22:14.28 | mikma | bots having fun? |
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| 22:15.15 | nevcairiel | oh wow i finally got my mapster uploaded |
| 22:15.15 | nevcairiel | yay |
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| 22:15.21 | bleeter | man, who did we piss off? even in the 'pits' of #pidgin it never got this sustained |
| 22:15.51 | mikma | Cairenn|food: hlep! |
| 22:16.00 | End | Shiibot: fail less |
| 22:16.11 | Tekkub | *cough* just set fucking +r and leave it damnit |
| 22:16.18 | bleeter | and on a different note, thanks Blizz for giving me some breathing space and time to re-install my OS's ;) |
| 22:16.21 | Fisker- | bleeter it was obviously me |
| 22:17.00 | bleeter | Fisker-: nah, you at least have some form of intelligence behind your posts ;) :P |
| 22:17.06 | *** join/#wowuidev vjWeBazdXlzZp (n=ezc@140.116.250.251) |
| 22:17.35 | mikma | right, every op is away :I |
| 22:18.04 | *** join/#wowuidev N4l0Pfh7O (n=bgkw@aneel-S9-0-3-acc06.bsa.embratel.net.br) |
| 22:18.13 | *** join/#wowuidev qKmyoFgOaDmZA (n=ssasabru@202.54.13.229) |
| 22:18.23 | Pneumatus | looks like wowi has got a dodgy ad up |
| 22:18.25 | End | haha |
| 22:18.39 | *** join/#wowuidev v3e (n=fuwvimtz@203.197.130.13) |
| 22:18.42 | End | Blizzard_BarberShopUI's note: The barber's blade went snicker-snack! Have you seen my Jabberwocky? |
| 22:18.45 | Pneumatus | loaded wowi and it wanted to change the window address |
| 22:18.45 | mikma | Shirik, Shirik|zZz, Iriel, Dotted, someoooooone! |
| 22:18.52 | Iriel | What? |
| 22:18.52 | mikma | massive-ping :O |
| 22:18.54 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+r] by Kaelten |
| 22:18.56 | zenzelezz | Shiibot fails |
| 22:19.02 | End | Kaelten wins. |
| 22:19.03 | mikma | thank you Kaelten |
| 22:19.26 | Kaelten | sweet |
| 22:19.33 | Pneumatus | someone needs to dropkick the dodgy advertiser on wowi in the face |
| 22:19.35 | Kaelten | I do have deh power |
| 22:20.02 | mikma | Kaelten: i was wondering was "sweet" for someone actually thanking you for the first time *giggle* |
| 22:20.31 | Pneumatus | oh well wowi, i can't use your site because i keep getting thrown to some dodgy gore movie dvd site |
| 22:20.38 | Kaelten | well... no thats cool too though :) |
| 22:20.52 | *** join/#wowuidev Soulsbane (n=Soulsban@dial-69-55-144-15.sofnet.net) |
| 22:20.57 | mikma | Pneumatus: they are just adds, they bring in the big bucks! |
| 22:21.13 | NeoTron | Pneumatus: adblock |
| 22:21.20 | Pneumatus | mikma: so many bucks that you can't actually access wowinterface because it throws you to another site |
| 22:21.30 | Pneumatus | NeoTron: not the point |
| 22:21.34 | NeoTron | understood. |
| 22:21.36 | Neuro_Medivh | that might be some adware on your end, not theirs |
| 22:21.37 | NeoTron | it's the solution though |
| 22:21.39 | mikma | i was able like 2 hours ago |
| 22:21.48 | Pneumatus | browser hijacking ads fail hard |
| 22:21.48 | mikma | lessee |
| 22:21.49 | NeoTron | if in fact that is the problem as Neuro_Medivh pointed out |
| 22:22.01 | Pneumatus | heh, nope |
| 22:22.02 | Neuro_Medivh | especially since the wowi main page right now has NO ADS |
| 22:22.05 | Dewin | I thought we just talked about this :) |
| 22:22.12 | mikma | WoWInterface WoW 3.0 |
| 22:22.13 | mikma | AddOn simple list. |
| 22:22.13 | morkii | its just that you cant click the background thats all |
| 22:22.16 | Neuro_Medivh | it's the low bandwidth version |
| 22:22.28 | End | my low bandwidth version shows an add |
| 22:22.30 | Pneumatus | <div id="header" onclick="location.href='http://ads.addynamix.com/click/2-2125486-9?';" |
| 22:22.30 | End | ad* |
| 22:22.33 | Pneumatus | ad ^^ |
| 22:22.34 | End | it's in the background though |
| 22:22.49 | Neuro_Medivh | ah, then my adblock is working overtime =) |
| 22:22.50 | morkii | so don't click the background |
| 22:22.56 | Tuller | i'm hungry, and my server is still not up /waaaah |
| 22:23.07 | End | Tuller: cry moar |
| 22:23.12 | Duman | heh |
| 22:23.19 | Duman | queue queue |
| 22:23.21 | Pneumatus | but there's an ad there that's stealing the window location, which is making wowi unsuable for anyone that isnt blocking ads |
| 22:23.21 | End | ^_^ |
| 22:23.36 | morkii | I don't block ads |
| 22:23.41 | End | it's not screwing shit up for me |
| 22:23.46 | End | Pneumatus: what's yer web browser? |
| 22:23.47 | morkii | the ad only redirects if you click the background |
| 22:23.49 | morkii | click anything else |
| 22:24.18 | Duman | wow, forums are still kaput, too? hah |
| 22:24.40 | Neuro_Medivh | yep |
| 22:24.51 | kd3 | they can't keep up with the load that is "qq 90 minutes and still no realms!" |
| 22:25.05 | Duman | haha |
| 22:25.07 | Duman | no doubt |
| 22:25.07 | kd3 | as another battlegroup takes a dive... >.< |
| 22:25.17 | Duman | just went to lunch and ate way too much Cuban foodz |
| 22:25.21 | Neuro_Medivh | OMGSERVERNOTUP-QQ! |
| 22:25.23 | Duman | I need a nap |
| 22:25.27 | cogwheel | ee5poprun |
| 22:25.41 | Dewin | We established that battlegroups are not connected to the groups of servers coming up and down kd3 |
| 22:25.47 | cogwheel | erm... authenticator 4tw... |
| 22:25.48 | cogwheel | <.< |
| 22:25.50 | cogwheel | >.> |
| 22:25.55 | Duman | lol |
| 22:25.55 | kd3 | oh ho? |
| 22:26.04 | Neuro_Medivh | LOGGIN YER KEYS COG! |
| 22:26.09 | kd3 | bah. I still need to poke customer service to get them to deauth my old key and use my blizzcon special one |
| 22:26.15 | Tekkub | poor coggy |
| 22:26.20 | Duman | cog: I've typed root and enable passwords into IRC more times than I want to admit |
| 22:26.21 | Tekkub | my password is much better |
| 22:26.22 | cogwheel | kd3: lern2accountmanagement |
| 22:26.23 | Dewin | kd3: Burning Blade was up at 1:30ish. Earthen Ring in same battlegroup is not up still |
| 22:26.27 | *** join/#wowuidev copystring (n=copystri@p548A1437.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 22:26.33 | Dewin | though Burning Blade is now offline again. |
| 22:26.48 | cogwheel | kd3: about halfway down the page there's a "remove authenticator" button |
| 22:26.54 | Fisker- | why no blizzard account yet? >:3 |
| 22:27.01 | Fisker- | indeed cogwheel |
| 22:27.06 | Fisker- | l2accountmanagement |
| 22:27.14 | Fisker- | it's funny people haven't realized you can remove it yourself |
| 22:27.27 | Fisker- | Of course that doesn't make much sense when the authenticator is broken, but otherwise it's a pretty solid plan :P |
| 22:27.43 | kd3 | last time I looked it required calling CS. granted, that was a month ago at least |
| 22:27.43 | Neuro_Medivh | so, do you have to use the authenticator to remove it? |
| 22:27.45 | Arrowmaster | do you need it to login to the account management site? |
| 22:27.50 | Fisker- | Yes |
| 22:27.50 | cogwheel | Neuro_Medivh: yes |
| 22:27.58 | Arrowmaster | sounds fine to me then |
| 22:28.00 | Neuro_Medivh | ok, otherwise that's a silly security hole |
| 22:28.03 | Fisker- | You can remove it by calling support if you don't have access to the authenticator |
| 22:28.05 | Fisker- | nah kd3 |
| 22:28.09 | cogwheel | kd3: that's only if the one you have stops working, is lost, etc |
| 22:28.12 | Arrowmaster | only need to call CS when the authenticator doesnt work |
| 22:28.19 | Fisker- | I've had it since ~the beginning in EU and you always had the option to remove |
| 22:28.19 | Fisker- | it |
| 22:28.31 | Duman | they are filming CSI:NY shit outside |
| 22:28.51 | Syzgyn | ckknight: ping |
| 22:28.52 | Duman | funny seeing a bunch of cars w/ NY plates all lined up |
| 22:28.53 | Arrowmaster | Duman: you arent in NY are you? |
| 22:28.57 | Duman | I'm in LA |
| 22:28.59 | ckknight | Syzgyn: pong |
| 22:29.00 | Fisker- | go be in the episode Duman |
| 22:29.01 | mikma | Duman: moon at them |
| 22:29.08 | Duman | hah |
| 22:29.10 | Duman | I should |
| 22:29.10 | Syzgyn | ckknight: is there an updated version of Rock? |
| 22:29.20 | ckknight | yea, on wowace |
| 22:29.22 | Syzgyn | Ok |
| 22:29.28 | Syzgyn | thanks |
| 22:29.32 | Neuro_Medivh | don't you mean, on curse? |
| 22:29.38 | ckknight | same difference |
| 22:29.52 | *** join/#wowuidev Corgan (n=Corgan@cpe-76-172-245-29.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 22:29.52 | ckknight | since it's a lib, it makes more sense to point to wowace |
| 22:30.01 | ckknight | since no one should really get libs from curse |
| 22:30.06 | ckknight | they should be part of the addon proper |
| 22:30.32 | Neuro_Medivh | oh, look, California is on fire again |
| 22:30.41 | Duman | surprise surprise |
| 22:30.44 | Neuro_Medivh | <--- my surprised face |
| 22:31.11 | Duman | hmm, I got email from that Blizzard HR lady |
| 22:31.22 | NeoTron | ckknight: would be nice to put a flag on a project to say it's a library to avoid syndication |
| 22:31.42 | ckknight | no, it's just categorized as a library |
| 22:31.49 | *** join/#wowuidev Saiket (n=saiketDO@ip72-220-21-142.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 22:32.27 | NeoTron | it's still put on curse.com |
| 22:32.49 | cogwheel | i love how the realm status page gives a 404 now... |
| 22:33.06 | Duman | my sprint evo card is failing me today, hmm |
| 22:33.31 | ckknight | NeoTron: yea, well, eventually the client and such will download it with the nolib scheme and all |
| 22:34.43 | Sixen | Hrm |
| 22:34.51 | NeoTron | ckknight: my main point really is that it pollutes curse.com with stuff users should never see |
| 22:34.53 | Sixen | Are the WoW Forums loading for anyone else? |
| 22:35.06 | ckknight | NeoTron: hrm. |
| 22:35.12 | ckknight | NeoTron: I'll bring it up |
| 22:35.13 | kd3 | neg sixen |
| 22:35.18 | Sixen | Mmkay. |
| 22:35.23 | Duman | they be toast |
| 22:35.28 | Sixen | Seems like the Bnet Forums are affected as well... |
| 22:35.28 | Duman | crispy toast |
| 22:35.36 | Sixen | http://forums.battle.net -- Someone check for me pl0x? |
| 22:35.48 | *** join/#wowuidev Kandoko (n=Testing@adsl-068-159-119-207.sip.gsp.bellsouth.net) |
| 22:35.52 | Duman | waiting.. |
| 22:35.57 | Duman | waiting.. |
| 22:36.01 | Sixen | Mmm, infinite amount of waiting. |
| 22:36.01 | kd3 | presumably the new bnet forums are running on the same boxen as the wow forums? |
| 22:36.07 | *** join/#wowuidev duaiwe (n=jonathan@65-101-134-253.tukw.qwest.net) |
| 22:36.09 | Sixen | Probably. |
| 22:36.16 | Sixen | Hopefully, they'll merge it all and use the Blizzard Accounts, -_- |
| 22:36.18 | Duman | wtb more capacity |
| 22:36.29 | Sixen | wtb more stability |
| 22:36.36 | Tekkub | wtb more fur |
| 22:36.38 | Dewin | wtb a server that is up. |
| 22:36.43 | Sixen | agree |
| 22:37.06 | Pneumatus | dont blizzard accounts have the issue that your account name is your email address? |
| 22:37.13 | kd3 | huzzah. my account's now hooked up to my blizzcon rsa key |
| 22:37.13 | Sixen | Are the realms up yet? No, right? |
| 22:37.19 | kd3 | so... use a throwaway email address? |
| 22:37.22 | Kirkburn | Pneumatus, how is that an "issue"? |
| 22:37.34 | foxlit | It's predictable |
| 22:37.40 | foxlit | You know my email |
| 22:37.46 | Pneumatus | well, if you have more than one account, how can both be associated to the same blizzard account (and same email address) |
| 22:37.47 | Kirkburn | Ah, fair point |
| 22:37.49 | Tekkub | I had to save the shampoo from our hotel... "rich in nature's honey and essential ingredients for radiant fur" |
| 22:38.00 | Kirkburn | But most account names are predictable too, I expect |
| 22:38.06 | Kirkburn | Tekkub, lol |
| 22:38.11 | NeoTron | Tekkub: is it a dog shampoo? :P |
| 22:38.16 | Tekkub | no, bear |
| 22:38.24 | Tekkub | the soap had a bearpaw on it too |
| 22:38.29 | kamdis | lol |
| 22:38.32 | kd3 | o_O |
| 22:38.35 | kd3 | where'd you stay? |
| 22:38.36 | Neuro_Medivh | obviously, the hotel knew about Blizzcon |
| 22:38.40 | Tekkub | Travellodge |
| 22:38.41 | End | Well, you should be able to use the + extension some email providers might offer |
| 22:38.43 | Duman | lol tekkub |
| 22:38.45 | Duman | pics? |
| 22:38.49 | End | (At least, gmail does) |
| 22:38.51 | Tekkub | gimme a sec |
| 22:39.03 | Duman | end: hopefully all providers support VERP :-P |
| 22:39.06 | ScytheBlade1 | ZorbaTHut: poke |
| 22:39.47 | Duman | altho I think we explicitly reject email addresses with '+' in them to discourage multiple account creation |
| 22:39.53 | Duman | which makes me partially sad |
| 22:39.55 | ReAn | ANOTHER UPDATE? |
| 22:40.04 | Dewin | what? |
| 22:40.10 | *** join/#wowuidev nymbia (n=nymbia@c-67-190-49-185.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 22:40.11 | ReAn | k, i just installed the patch |
| 22:40.14 | ReAn | and logged in |
| 22:40.16 | ReAn | and it kicked me out |
| 22:40.18 | ReAn | to update |
| 22:40.28 | End | really |
| 22:40.31 | End | interesting... |
| 22:40.32 | kd3 | 2.4.3 -> 3.0.1, then 3.0.1->3.0.2 |
| 22:40.32 | ReAn | 400mb patch, i had the data already tho |
| 22:40.36 | kamdis | oh the joys of patch day |
| 22:40.36 | Duman | there are 2 patches |
| 22:40.40 | kd3 | it's all part of the background download |
| 22:40.40 | End | oh |
| 22:40.41 | Fisker- | THE END IS NEAR |
| 22:40.44 | End | that's not interesting then |
| 22:40.45 | kd3 | -about 10 megs or so |
| 22:40.46 | End | Fisker-: lies |
| 22:41.02 | Fisker- | but you are right here |
| 22:41.09 | Fisker- | so kd3 |
| 22:41.12 | Fisker- | when are we going to b.net it up with WoW? |
| 22:41.21 | Dewin | eh, my world ended yesterday. Waiting for the new world to begin. |
| 22:41.23 | kd3 | tbqh I was expecting tonight's patch |
| 22:41.44 | Neuro_Medivh | I see they changed the alert |
| 22:41.48 | Neuro_Medivh | 4:30pm pst now |
| 22:41.58 | Duman | wow, realms are up and down like cazy right now |
| 22:42.06 | Tekkub | can't find camera :P |
| 22:42.09 | Duman | I had the realm list window open and they are popping in and out |
| 22:42.12 | morkii | well that is nice of them |
| 22:42.14 | Fisker- | Atleast EU will have learned from your mistakes Neuro_Medivh |
| 22:42.16 | morkii | at least they let us know |
| 22:42.22 | Dewin | yeah, I have it open on my wife's PC to watch it ;) |
| 22:42.31 | kd3 | hm... guess that means a repeat of 2.0's ~48 hours of downtime will be happening again |
| 22:42.35 | End | I'm stucking loading screen :) |
| 22:42.45 | Dewin | which loading screen? |
| 22:42.49 | ReAn | hahah |
| 22:42.52 | ReAn | whoops |
| 22:43.00 | ReAn | first line of the 3.0.2 patch notes |
| 22:43.00 | Duman | kd3 :-/ |
| 22:43.06 | End | kalimdor *wink* |
| 22:43.10 | ReAn | "Latests test realm patch notes can always be found at" |
| 22:43.16 | Fisker- | read the second line ReAn |
| 22:43.17 | kamdis | ha ha |
| 22:43.23 | Fisker- | or that would be third probably |
| 22:43.44 | End | Character not found! |
| 22:43.45 | End | D: |
| 22:43.47 | Fisker- | actually no |
| 22:43.50 | Fisker- | The latest patch notes can always be found at |
| 22:43.50 | Fisker- | http://www.wow-europe.com/en/patchnotes/ |
| 22:43.50 | Fisker- | The latest test realm patch notes can always be found at |
| 22:43.50 | Fisker- | http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/underdev/testrealm.html |
| 22:43.59 | Dewin | they chaned it for wow EU |
| 22:44.06 | Dewin | wow US has it the opposite way |
| 22:44.11 | *** join/#wowuidev Kirov (n=Kirov@c-67-180-82-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 22:44.16 | Fisker- | Still said "Latest patch notes" |
| 22:44.28 | End | heh |
| 22:44.31 | Tekkub | ah found the cam |
| 22:44.35 | Dewin | The latest test realm patch notes can always be found at http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html |
| 22:44.35 | Dewin | The latest patch notes can always be found at http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/ |
| 22:44.41 | Fisker- | exactly |
| 22:44.57 | morkii | what is wrong with that? |
| 22:45.06 | Fisker- | don't ask me >:E |
| 22:45.11 | Tekkub | can't get a good enough image for you to read it tho, bah |
| 22:45.13 | Fisker- | other than slightly misplaced |
| 22:45.20 | Dewin | Someone read line one, went "lol they forgot to change it from the ptr notes" and didn't read line two. |
| 22:45.36 | morkii | mm |
| 22:46.36 | Fisker- | indeed Dewin |
| 22:47.00 | Duman | heh, can't even load www.worldofwarcraft |
| 22:47.03 | Duman | le sigh |
| 22:47.10 | Tuller | so...how about them new macbooks? |
| 22:47.34 | Thunder_Child | ~dropkick Tuller |
| 22:47.34 | purl | ACTION sends Tuller flying like a yipping chihuahua |
| 22:47.41 | ScytheBlade1 | s/fules/files/ |
| 22:48.01 | Dewin | what happened to purl's s/ing? |
| 22:48.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Still there |
| 22:48.19 | Duman | does't work on actions |
| 22:48.20 | Dewin | oh, does it not track /me's? |
| 22:48.21 | |Jelly| | YAY! I GET TO DOWNLOAD THE PATCH AGAIN! |
| 22:48.21 | Dewin | ah. |
| 22:48.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 22:48.42 | ReAn | wooo |
| 22:48.48 | Fisker- | owned |Jelly| |
| 22:48.50 | ReAn | Retrieving Character List |
| 22:48.53 | End | I can hear people logging in |
| 22:48.58 | End | but I'm still on the login screen |
| 22:49.01 | End | click |
| 22:49.02 | End | click |
| 22:49.13 | |Jelly| | Apparently the updater just randomly closes and doesn't "save" the data that it's since downloaded. |
| 22:49.37 | Tuller | if I were blizzard, I'd just say |
| 22:49.40 | Duman | heh |
| 22:49.42 | Tuller | "the servers will be down on tuesday" |
| 22:49.47 | Duman | forum maint page is up finally |
| 22:50.05 | Duman | tuller: seriously |
| 22:50.07 | ReAn | |Jelly|: it depends on the working directory used when opening the patcher |
| 22:50.16 | Kirov | uhg, the curse client is really clunky |
| 22:50.19 | bleeter | kd3, ScytheBlade1: did you guys get a JS error in the patcher when it tried to show patch notes (under wine, of course)? |
| 22:50.51 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: I don't use the launcher |
| 22:51.06 | *** join/#wowuidev Kirkburn (n=Kirkburn@wikia/Kirkburn) |
| 22:51.10 | kd3 | not iirc |
| 22:51.32 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: I said patcher, not launcher. i had a 'please enable JS' error. hmm, wonder if it was due to throwing win32 OO3.0 w/ JRE on |
| 22:51.54 | bleeter | (which failed miserably, I might add) |
| 22:51.59 | Fisker- | They haven't even launched the new armory yet |
| 22:52.01 | Fisker- | slackers |
| 22:52.34 | Dewin | bleeter: That's a result of the patch.html file using javascript |
| 22:52.57 | Dewin | I got it trying to open it directly in firefox with noscript on too |
| 22:53.01 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: oh. No. |
| 22:53.05 | *** join/#wowuidev Amarande (i=amarande@24-151-54-237.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com) |
| 22:53.22 | Duman | at least hte beta forums work |
| 22:53.32 | bleeter | Dewin: yeah, i know it uses JS for the language switching. worked on everything previously, just not last night when I did the patch itself. |
| 22:53.35 | kamdis | Duman: Not for me :( |
| 22:54.02 | Amarande | hmm, so the end of files.wowace.com means ... that unless we sign up for and get approved to be part of the Ace beta team, we will now have lots of out of date addons, probably access to a significantly smaller subset of the Ace addons in existence and people will start flocking to non-Ace addons instead? |
| 22:54.05 | Duman | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=7555625&sid=2000 |
| 22:54.07 | Duman | doesn't load for you? |
| 22:54.19 | Amarande | almost all my addons are ace, and I don't know how many of them are actually on curse :S |
| 22:54.21 | *** join/#wowuidev kaiden (n=kaiden@c-71-231-115-214.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 22:54.24 | kamdis | Ah, it does now. It didn't a few minutes ago. |
| 22:54.28 | Lopeppeppy | Um, or just go to the curse site, I think most of them are there. |
| 22:54.30 | Pneumatus | Amarande: all of them should be there |
| 22:54.32 | kamdis | They are all on curse |
| 22:54.44 | Amarande | more to the point: Curse Client doesn't have any suspicious trojan like behavior like WAU, does it? |
| 22:54.45 | Pneumatus | even if the've not been updated, the last version from files.wowace will be there |
| 22:55.07 | Lopeppeppy | Amarande, not that I'm aware of. And the community calls out suspicious things pretty loudly. |
| 22:55.19 | Amarande | Yeah, I heard WAU was a trojan :) |
| 22:55.25 | Lukian | Amarande, it loads itself up at startup by default |
| 22:55.28 | Amarande | or, lacking that, simply an atrociously coded piece of software |
| 22:55.29 | Lukian | is that an issue for you? :p |
| 22:55.48 | *** join/#wowuidev Nechckn (n=N@WoWUIDev/Norganna/PRManager/Nechckn) |
| 22:55.48 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v Nechckn] by ChanServ |
| 22:56.06 | Lopeppeppy | I have some good faith in the Curse team not to have done something hideous in this transfer. Change is. |
| 22:56.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Total size of my Addons folder: 14.9MB, including Bejeweled and Lightheaded |
| 22:56.42 | batrick | pretty annoying i have to keep restarting this blizz downloader |
| 22:56.47 | Amarande | What the heck is this Bejeweled one about anyway? |
| 22:56.53 | ScytheBlade1 | ............ |
| 22:56.56 | ScytheBlade1 | ................................................ |
| 22:56.59 | batrick | anyone have a link to how i can use a regular bittorrent client? |
| 22:57.02 | eliteevil | Amarande: Don't do it, it's a trap. |
| 22:57.02 | Amarande | I keep seeing guildies mention in chat that they've become a whatever in Bejeweling (I presume JC?) skill |
| 22:57.04 | ScytheBlade1 | kamdis: explain to Amarande what Bejeweled is |
| 22:57.08 | Pneumatus | our guild scorebored for bejeweled has got silly now |
| 22:57.16 | Pneumatus | we had competitions to see who could hack it to get the best score |
| 22:57.30 | eliteevil | lol. |
| 22:57.37 | Pneumatus | there's not a single score on our guild scoreboard under about 10mil now |
| 22:57.38 | kamdis | It's a game. It doesn't do anything wow related at all. |
| 22:57.49 | kamdis | see also: horrid devil spawn |
| 22:57.59 | kamdis | :D |
| 22:58.17 | Amarande | hmm, apparently curse client requires security overrides in vista :| |
| 22:58.24 | ScytheBlade1 | ~onjoin kamdis |
| 22:58.24 | purl | onjoin for kamdis set by scytheblade1 on Tue Sep 30 14:57:15 2008: ~~~ you will install bejeweled ~~~ |
| 22:58.25 | Dewin | Pneumatus: So what's your guild's best 'real' score? |
| 22:58.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh |
| 22:58.29 | ScytheBlade1 | So I DID set that |
| 22:58.30 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 22:58.31 | Amarande | actually |
| 22:58.37 | Amarande | does it require them if I didn't install WoW under Program Files? |
| 22:58.39 | Pneumatus | Dewin: before people started messing about, in the 100k region iirc |
| 22:58.44 | kamdis | I'm scared you didn't remember Sbo |
| 22:58.50 | ScytheBlade1 | I honestly didn't |
| 22:58.50 | Kaelten | Amarande: No the client isn't a trojan or keylogger |
| 22:58.53 | Dewin | Ahh, beats the crap out of my 70k-ish |
| 22:58.55 | ScytheBlade1 | ~onjoin -kamdis |
| 22:58.55 | purl | ScytheBlade1: ok |
| 22:59.05 | Amarande | I have a special folder called C:\Games that I use instead for games for which the Program Files security may cause interference. :) |
| 22:59.11 | Fisker- | that's only a feature with worldofwar.net's client ololol |
| 22:59.13 | Kaelten | Amarande: I think right now it requires it blanketly but on our list of things to do is only do if it its under program files. |
| 22:59.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Kaelten: LIES AND SLANDER! CURSE = SUX! |
| 22:59.16 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 22:59.22 | Kaelten | ScytheBlade1: :P |
| 22:59.25 | Lunessa | Holy hell XP SP 3 takes forever to install |
| 22:59.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Sorry. Was too easy. |
| 22:59.32 | Pneumatus | well, the 3.0.2 updater asks you if you want to move yoru install to public/games on vista anyway |
| 22:59.41 | Pneumatus | which means you shouldnt need to worry about UAC |
| 22:59.43 | morkii | sp 3 is bad |
| 22:59.47 | Amarande | Speaking of which |
| 22:59.59 | *** join/#wowuidev RockSlice (i=kvirc@c-76-123-69-54.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 23:00.01 | Amarande | Anyone remember what the name of the company from Doom that kept causing things to invade from hell was? ;) |
| 23:00.11 | bleeter | Lunessa: I built a slipstream XP SP3 install disk, went real smooth here |
| 23:00.14 | Amarande | "UAC" |
| 23:00.15 | Amarande | heh |
| 23:00.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Kaelten: and on an -entirely unrelated note- did you get my e-mail? |
| 23:00.23 | Amarande | nice epicfail of Microsoft in naming things |
| 23:00.28 | End | hm, my realm is crashing :P |
| 23:00.29 | Kaelten | ScytheBlade1: maybe? I have more than 100 emails back logged |
| 23:00.30 | Amarande | up there with "Palladium" |
| 23:00.30 | Kaelten | :( |
| 23:00.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Kaelten: ah. Then never mind, take your time. Was about me failing hard enough to create two non-functional logins. |
| 23:00.57 | Kaelten | lol |
| 23:01.01 | Kaelten | we'll get it worked out |
| 23:01.03 | Kaelten | sooner or later |
| 23:01.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah no rush |
| 23:01.21 | Amarande | Palladium: Windows security systems that seem, as far as I can tell, oriented towards preventing the introduction of unauthorized software into the system. |
| 23:01.28 | nevcairiel | what event fires if i learn/unlearn talents? |
| 23:01.28 | Amarande | Also the name of a supposedly secure thing ... in Troy. |
| 23:01.53 | Amarande | Yes, I would really feel secure with a security system that's supposed to prevent trojans and such and is named after something from *Troy.* LOL |
| 23:02.24 | *** join/#wowuidev NeoMinder (n=r00t@ip68-230-24-4.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 23:03.21 | kamdis | Uther fall down go boom :( |
| 23:03.35 | Amarande | Joy. |
| 23:03.45 | Amarande | I get the patch installed and ... well ... I play on three different realms |
| 23:03.48 | Amarande | Of which ALL of them are down. :| |
| 23:03.48 | ScytheBlade1 | They're all semi-randomly pissing their own selves and dying, it seems |
| 23:03.51 | ScytheBlade1 | The servers, that is |
| 23:03.58 | kamdis | aye |
| 23:04.32 | bleeter | i'm just glad it gives me time to do some installs and foo and make MOAR COFFEE |
| 23:05.19 | Dewin | Amarande: I have inactive toons on 3 realms. All 3 are up. I have active toons on 1. It never came up (as in, it doesn't even show as 'offline') |
| 23:06.06 | Amarande | Actually, Smolderthorn is up, but my character there is only level 7 heh |
| 23:06.18 | *** part/#wowuidev Wikwocket (n=wikwocke@adsl-68-79-9-193.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) |
| 23:06.18 | Amarande | bleeter: never mind MOAR COFFEE |
| 23:06.21 | Amarande | we want MOAR POWAR |
| 23:07.22 | bleeter | wtf point of POAWR if there's no caffiene rush to go with it? |
| 23:07.26 | kamdis | I'll have the cake please. |
| 23:07.37 | *** join/#wowuidev Gryphen (n=gryphon@71.216.187.10) |
| 23:09.27 | ckknight | cake is a lie, kamdis |
| 23:09.36 | ckknight | pie is the only truth we can really know |
| 23:09.50 | foxlit | The cake is out there. |
| 23:10.06 | foxlit | (Fight the Muffin.) |
| 23:10.23 | Lunessa | kamdis: Death! You said Death first! |
| 23:10.39 | zenzelezz | I sure am glad the servers aren't scheduled to be back up until two in the afternoon... means I won't have to consider staying home from work tomorrow |
| 23:11.13 | foxlit | I'm not. @#$@# you, patch, stealing all my addon feedback for this release cycle :( |
| 23:11.27 | Amarande | I'm assuming Administrator should most definitely have a password set. |
| 23:11.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Amarande: no |
| 23:11.51 | ZorbaTHut | scythe, just got up. what's up? :) |
| 23:11.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Amarande: as of XP onward, if Administrator does not have a password set, all remote access via that user is entirely disabled |
| 23:12.02 | ScytheBlade1 | ZorbaTHut: heh, brb :) |
| 23:12.05 | End | pie: a dessert we can believe in |
| 23:12.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Question about QuestHelper |
| 23:12.11 | ScytheBlade1 | But brb |
| 23:12.14 | Amarande | Scythe: um, and people can still log in as that user from the welcome screen, though? |
| 23:12.15 | ZorbaTHut | okie :) |
| 23:12.18 | Amarande | that's -not- a good thing |
| 23:12.25 | Amarande | I don't care to see people log in as administrator from the welcome screen :) |
| 23:13.11 | NeoMinder | opt/VRTSvcs/bin/hagrp -switch ora_001_a -to hsa942dev |
| 23:13.21 | Fisker- | Administrator is hidden per default |
| 23:13.23 | Amarande | or do we have to just suck it up and accept that on Vista, unless you can lock the machine in a room, you can't use the Curse Client? |
| 23:13.23 | NeoMinder | gak, ignore that |
| 23:13.30 | Fisker- | It wants you to create another user for logging in |
| 23:13.31 | Amarande | Fisker: apparently it needs to be unhidden in order to run the curse client |
| 23:13.34 | durcyn | NeoMinder: your oracle cluster thanks you |
| 23:13.42 | Amarande | unhiding it, however, makes it show on the welcome screen |
| 23:13.48 | Fisker- | That doesn't make any sense |
| 23:14.03 | NeoMinder | durcyn, too many windows |
| 23:14.08 | Fisker- | But you can just give it a password |
| 23:15.12 | NeoMinder | Amarande, just set a password for it, then set it to auto login to administrator... :-) |
| 23:15.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Amarande: not by default. On Vista, the admin account is entirely disabled and without a password. You have to go through serious effort to enable it. |
| 23:15.22 | *** join/#wowuidev WobWork (n=Wobin@203-206-178-228.perm.iinet.net.au) |
| 23:15.29 | ScytheBlade1 | ZorbaTHut: is QH going to be updated with Wrath quests by chance? |
| 23:15.49 | ZorbaTHut | scythe, if by "going to be" you mean "has been for weeks", then the answer is "yes" ;) |
| 23:15.57 | ScytheBlade1 | ZorbaTHut: all of the Wrath quests? |
| 23:16.08 | ZorbaTHut | all of them that people submit. The data gathering is based on users sending me files |
| 23:16.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Good stuff |
| 23:16.24 | ZorbaTHut | I've heard that it's pretty much complete up through level 76 right now. |
| 23:16.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Amarande: it's best to just leave the XP and higher "Administrator" accounts as-is by default. |
| 23:16.52 | Amarande | Scythe: And Curse Client won't break on Vista, then? |
| 23:16.58 | ZorbaTHut | I did just run into a bug in the DK starting zone that means there are no DK quests in yet, but that should be fixed in 0.60 and I ought to have full data for them by Wrath release. |
| 23:17.02 | Amarande | I am SO not going back to XP on this machine, hardware's kinda new for that :) |
| 23:17.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Amarande: no? |
| 23:17.15 | Amarande | 500G SATA drive? I don't care to find out if my floppy drive is working. |
| 23:17.34 | Tekkub | people still own floppy drives? |
| 23:17.41 | NeoMinder | curse client works in vista |
| 23:17.43 | Dewin | Amarande: I'm running a 1 TB RAID array on XP |
| 23:17.52 | Dewin | I slipstreamed the raid drivers ;) |
| 23:18.03 | Amarande | Re-disabled Administrator, then. :) |
| 23:18.10 | Amarande | On the good side, I just learned a new system management thing on Vista. |
| 23:19.07 | *** join/#wowuidev ddsmith (n=ddsmith@12.6.239.179) |
| 23:19.57 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: yeah, buydropper is throwing errors on login. RIP. |
| 23:21.05 | *** join/#wowuidev Osagasu (n=Dune@208-104-142-238.rhhe1.2wcm.comporium.net) |
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| 23:22.59 | Dewin | Hmm. My server is still not even showing on the list, much less up. |
| 23:23.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Dewin: join the club |
| 23:23.42 | Brimm | we have punch and pie |
| 23:23.58 | NeoMinder | welcome to patch day |
| 23:24.03 | Dewin | yes... patch day... |
| 23:24.06 | kamdis | Lunessa: But I meant cake. :-( |
| 23:24.11 | Dewin | I wasn't around when TBC came out so I missed this the first time |
| 23:24.20 | Dewin | (I quit before it came out) |
| 23:24.33 | Lunessa | Well, you're out of luck. We only had the three pieces and we didn't expect such a rush. |
| 23:24.38 | ScytheBlade1 | kamdis: wow. first you refuse Bejeweled, now you pick cake. |
| 23:24.45 | ScytheBlade1 | kamdis: I could have you killed for lesser offenses. |
| 23:24.57 | NeoMinder | pie or pie not, there is no cake |
| 23:25.21 | kamdis | No, I definitely a pie person. I'm just quoting Eddie Izzard. |
| 23:25.38 | Lunessa | Ditto |
| 23:25.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh. |
| 23:25.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Well then, some is forgiven. |
| 23:25.58 | kamdis | huzzah? |
| 23:26.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Still needs more Bejeweled. |
| 23:26.15 | kamdis | bah, beta forums borked again |
| 23:26.20 | jaxdahl2 | oh for.. |
| 23:26.27 | jaxdahl2 | onyxia appears to be deep breathing more |
| 23:26.38 | Brimm | insanity |
| 23:26.44 | jaxdahl2 | i blame removal of the requirement to have the drakefire amulet |
| 23:27.00 | ScytheBlade1 | You know |
| 23:27.12 | ScytheBlade1 | If I ever found myself in a position to make a singular "blue" post |
| 23:27.18 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd dig through the boss spells |
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| 23:27.25 | erikd | jaxdahl2: ahhh, a blast from the past |
| 23:27.27 | ScytheBlade1 | And post the mechanics behind Ony's deep breath |
| 23:27.31 | erikd | makes me feel nostalgic |
| 23:27.43 | ScytheBlade1 | _Just_ so that I can laugh in my old raid leader's face |
| 23:27.52 | erikd | more dots! |
| 23:27.54 | jaxdahl2 | oh, with the release of threat values |
| 23:28.14 | jaxdahl2 | they did find that onyxia's fireball targets players high(est) on the threat list |
| 23:28.17 | jaxdahl2 | and reduces their threat |
| 23:28.27 | Brimm | that's actually pretty cool |
| 23:28.44 | jaxdahl2 | does help to explain wonky behavior upon landing |
| 23:28.47 | Tuller | nevcairiel: you sir, are evil. Way to have a static amount of bars and thus a simple way to include custom state configuration |
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| 23:29.02 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 23:29.05 | nevcairiel | Tuller: huzzah! |
| 23:29.24 | nevcairiel | Tuller: dont you have static bars in dominos? |
| 23:29.30 | Amarande | hmm |
| 23:29.38 | Amarande | when I tried to run curse setup, it told me "this link needs to be opened with an application" |
| 23:29.42 | Tuller | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:29.47 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 23:29.48 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 23:29.58 | Tuller | technically those are advanced commands |
| 23:30.55 | Tuller | so I could get away with doing that sort of state configuration provided I tell them, "your stuff will blow up" :P |
| 23:31.01 | nevcairiel | I never even considerd doing that |
| 23:31.03 | nevcairiel | too complicated |
| 23:31.12 | WobWork | hm |
| 23:31.13 | Tuller | actually, its not that complicated :P |
| 23:31.15 | WobWork | Fable 2 looks good |
| 23:31.21 | nevcairiel | the 10 bar concept works fine for me |
| 23:31.22 | Tuller | doing variable length bars is complicated :) |
| 23:31.24 | nevcairiel | and i dont need anythign else |
| 23:31.38 | Tuller | doing bars that have a predetermined maximum size is less so |
| 23:31.53 | nevcairiel | and you are right, providing a custom state driver for that was damn easy =P |
| 23:32.05 | Fisker- | there there |
| 23:32.08 | Fisker- | you're both my bitches |
| 23:32.08 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 23:32.27 | NeoMinder | there seems to be a lot of new resize algorithms floating around |
| 23:32.30 | mikma | failsker- |
| 23:32.33 | Tuller | I wanna shake maul and make him do alt drag to create macaroon bars :P |
| 23:33.42 | Fisker-sowaitnoo | :( |
| 23:34.27 | Dewin | New status update |
| 23:34.30 | Fisker- | Corgan my lover |
| 23:34.39 | Corgan | Fisker- my friend |
| 23:34.42 | Fisker- | no |
| 23:34.48 | Dewin | login issues resolved, all realms to be up bt 6 PM PST, supposedly. |
| 23:34.54 | Dewin | Only 4 hours late YAY! |
| 23:35.10 | Fisker- | Atleast they will have learned from US on the EU maintanence (i wish) |
| 23:35.28 | Dewin | Clock of Doom? |
| 23:35.43 | mikma | why not make an announcebot for the statuspage |
| 23:35.46 | Fisker- | Clock'o'mobilephone |
| 23:35.55 | Fisker- | NEWS ALERT: |
| 23:35.57 | mikma | if the page changes -> announce |
| 23:36.01 | Fisker- | Fisker- is awesome, deal with it |
| 23:36.06 | Fisker- | Also, realms down |
| 23:36.09 | Fisker- | Deal with that as well. |
| 23:36.13 | mikma | failsker- |
| 23:36.16 | Fisker- | :( |
| 23:36.32 | Dewin | Umm... the realm status page is 404ing ;) |
| 23:36.35 | Dewin | last I checked anyways |
| 23:36.37 | Dewin | this is the login message |
| 23:36.44 | Fisker- | that's what we're talking about |
| 23:36.46 | Corgan | Fisker- |
| 23:36.46 | Fisker- | ~wowalert |
| 23:36.47 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US), http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) |
| 23:36.48 | Corgan | can I touch you |
| 23:36.50 | Fisker- | l2datamine |
| 23:36.54 | Fisker- | Corgan only in my pants |
| 23:36.58 | Corgan | ok |
| 23:37.01 | Corgan | can do |
| 23:37.01 | Tem | omfg, I might die |
| 23:37.10 | Dewin | wow, I never knew about that, interesting :) |
| 23:37.11 | Amarande | yay. time for a nice tequila sunrise with Don Julio to celebrate patch day |
| 23:37.19 | mikma | Tem: wait, what? |
| 23:37.26 | Tem | my guild mates are driving me fucking insane |
| 23:37.42 | bleeter | Tem: isn't that the point of being in a guild? :P |
| 23:37.55 | Lopeppeppy | No. |
| 23:38.06 | Lopeppeppy | Guild is for fun, not hate. |
| 23:38.07 | bleeter | ie, getting driven fucking insane on patch day |
| 23:38.07 | Tem | oh em gee! I can't update my addons |
| 23:38.13 | Fisker- | I was asked how to make a forum today |
| 23:38.19 | Lopeppeppy | GTF over it and play vanilla for a day. |
| 23:38.19 | Amarande | I can't even get to my guild mates yet. |
| 23:38.19 | NeoTron | L2!B stupid |
| 23:38.21 | Tem | I like 2-3 members of my 60 person guild |
| 23:38.23 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: wut? I must be playing a diff game to you :P |
| 23:38.26 | Fisker- | /facedesked :( |
| 23:38.33 | Tem | the rest of the piss me off because they're dumb |
| 23:38.48 | bleeter | Tem: you sure you ain't in the same guild as me? ;) |
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| 23:45.56 | kamdis | I like everyone in my guild |
| 23:46.00 | kamdis | we kick out the stupids |
| 23:46.09 | |Jelly| | my gm is a member of the stupids |
| 23:46.37 | |Jelly| | maybe the expansion will learn him up some but i doubt it |
| 23:46.49 | kamdis | probably wishful thinking |
| 23:46.59 | |Jelly| | probably |
| 23:47.03 | cbreak | my guild isn't good enough to attract people who only play for gear, so we constist mostly of nice people |
| 23:47.58 | |Jelly| | This guys says he didn't buy his account. [18:46]<chiper>Sarajevo: you can't hit level 70 and immediately start doing black temple [18:47]<Sarajevo>chiper, really ? [18:47]<Sarajevo>how's that ? |
| 23:49.23 | Dewin | Can't possibly be as bad as the paladin I had in my party last night |
| 23:50.01 | |Jelly| | Was it like the prot moron in my Kara the other night that tanked without Righteous Fury, Consecration or SoR? |
| 23:50.15 | |Jelly| | I'm glad I went to bio WAAAAY away from them |
| 23:50.40 | Amarande | oh lord. are there any cast bar addons updated for 3.0 yet? |
| 23:50.50 | Amarande | or am I just going to have to structure my UI around where Blizzard wants to put theirs? |
| 23:51.20 | Amarande | Jelly: I can imagine your raid really tanked after that |
| 23:51.25 | cbreak | the old ones don't work anymore? |
| 23:51.34 | |Jelly| | Nah. I came back and tanked it. |
| 23:51.40 | |Jelly| | But that one pull was a massacre. |
| 23:51.43 | Amarande | cbreak: haven't tried, but don't expect anything combat-based to be working :| |
| 23:52.03 | cbreak | I haven't looked at the API in detail, but from what I've seen, nothing major changed |
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| 23:52.20 | cbreak | just the removal of the global arguments might cause problems, but that was announced ages ago |
| 23:53.12 | kamdis | Amarande: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/xpbarnone.aspx ? |
| 23:53.12 | Iriel | Lots of small things changed |
| 23:53.24 | Iriel | SO there will need to be 'touch up' work done |
| 23:53.36 | Kirov | Iriel ? |
| 23:53.54 | Amarande | kamdis: CAST bar, not xp bar |
| 23:54.07 | kamdis | oh right |
| 23:54.12 | Amarande | and seeing as I don't know any castbar addons other than quartz ... :| |
| 23:54.20 | Iriel | I was responding to cbreak's comment about the API's not having 'major' changes |
| 23:54.22 | Amarande | or any good unit frames other than xperl |
| 23:54.39 | Amarande | Iriel: Yeah, but 'minor' changes can make addons easily get a knot in their panties |
| 23:54.42 | Amarande | *cough* 2.4.1 |
| 23:55.07 | Zeksie | there are other unitframes? :) |
| 23:55.22 | Iriel | My feeling is that with a major version change you should expect everything to be broken temporarily while it's "cleaned up" |
| 23:55.28 | cbreak | maybe I was just lucky with mine, most worked with only changing to real arguments, and the other was extended |
| 23:55.33 | kamdis | Quartz is on curse, was updated in Sept. Should work. |
| 23:55.46 | kamdis | At least, it does for me on beta. |
| 23:55.51 | Amarande | hmm |
| 23:55.53 | Amarande | speaking of beta |
| 23:56.06 | Amarande | are there addons that are currently working in beta WOTLK that will fail on 3.0.2 current release? |
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| 23:56.13 | Amarande | some of the stuff on curse says "wotlk only" |
| 23:56.26 | kamdis | that just means they wouldn't work on 2.4.3 |
| 23:56.28 | Iriel | I suspect that means 'LK only versus 2.4.3' |
| 23:56.52 | kamdis | wotlk should = 3.0 |
| 23:56.56 | kamdis | for addons |
| 23:57.13 | Amarande | guess it's time to migrate from X-Perl to Perl Classic |
| 23:57.27 | morkii | why |
| 23:57.35 | Amarande | morkii: perl classic is actually updated for 3.0 |
| 23:57.39 | Amarande | x-perl has been sleeping at the switch |
| 23:57.43 | Zeksie | why? |
| 23:57.43 | morkii | x-perl is too |
| 23:57.44 | Amarande | and I don't know near enough lua to fix it myself |
| 23:57.55 | Amarande | morkii: latest x-perl on curse is for 2.4.3 |
| 23:58.03 | Zeksie | don't use curse |
| 23:58.06 | morkii | curse is fail |
| 23:58.08 | morkii | go to wowi |
| 23:58.26 | Zeksie | i'll update curse just as soon as i can test it works on servers.. but we don't patch till, now. so that'll be 15 hours or so |
| 23:58.40 | Zeksie | can get from wowace: http://www.wowace.com/projects/xperl/repositories/wotlk/files/1-3-0-0h/ |
| 23:58.42 | Zeksie | or wowi |
| 23:58.46 | Zeksie | or wowui.net |
| 23:59.02 | Zeksie | but i'm unable to upload manual files to curse any more cos of the new repo system |
| 23:59.52 | zenzelezz | why do people keep thinking "[SERVER] Shutdown in ..." is a sign to go ahead and flood the hell out of the trade channel? I hope the GMs are having a field day on their accounts |
| 23:59.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Sweet, Chatter is broke hard too |
