| 00:00.12 | Corrodias | tube.com |
| 00:00.40 | Dewin | Also, FWIW, I wrote a little PHP script that dumps information on all of FrameXML, like what templates exist and what references them |
| 00:01.53 | Xinhuan | Iriel: apparently, zoot doesn't know if this LoD issue is a bug or a feature, he's supposed to ask slouken about it, so the post is just to keep you informed for now and for you to do your own tests |
| 00:03.34 | p3lim | is there a stable master in Mudsprocket? |
| 00:03.45 | Xinhuan | no |
| 00:03.46 | mikma | tube=youtube |
| 00:04.04 | mikma | sorry bout that, copypaste fails |
| 00:04.20 | Iriel | It's a bug, IMHO |
| 00:05.12 | Xinhuan | it could be a "feature" if you view optdep on LoD not loading.. since its optional |
| 00:05.16 | Xinhuan | but its likely to be a bug |
| 00:05.20 | Xinhuan | since reqdep is failing as well |
| 00:05.32 | Iriel | That's not what 'opt dep' means tho |
| 00:06.01 | Xinhuan | and right now, there was a mass edit of some 40 libraries earlier to make them all non-LoD |
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| 00:08.27 | Wobin | ahah |
| 00:08.28 | Wobin | http://thefutureofthings.com/news/5522/3-d-printing-on-demand.html |
| 00:08.39 | Dewin | oldnews |
| 00:08.54 | Dewin | well... for people who read slashdot ;) |
| 00:09.01 | Wobin | Poor FigurePrints |
| 00:09.09 | Wobin | They came in too late for the BIG MONIES |
| 00:09.10 | Dewin | Not really |
| 00:09.26 | Wobin | I'm sure someone will take advantage of this |
| 00:09.29 | Dewin | Have you seen the prices for shapeways? |
| 00:09.30 | Wobin | and offer "hand painted" |
| 00:10.03 | Dewin | $130 for a figureprint is cheap |
| 00:10.07 | Dewin | compaerd to shapeway's prices |
| 00:10.35 | Iriel | What's shapeway's capacity too? |
| 00:10.43 | Wobin | I imagine that shapeways will cheapen up eventually |
| 00:11.01 | Dewin | Iriel: sec |
| 00:11.10 | mikma | hahahaa |
| 00:11.12 | Wobin | http://www.shapeways.com/ |
| 00:11.14 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKWrjwkNZWg&feature=related |
| 00:11.41 | Dewin | Id' rather have a RepRap anyways ;) |
| 00:12.04 | Iriel | Figureprint is adding more printers every month, they're probably quite well equipped by now |
| 00:12.06 | Dewin | which is a 3d printer capable of printing a (significant portion of) itself. |
| 00:12.38 | Iriel | (According to the rep I asked yesterday, they're printing 25% of their pending queue each month now) |
| 00:13.19 | Mike-N-Go | Fisker-: I forget what is is that I said, but thank you. |
| 00:13.45 | Dewin | Hmmm... I sems to be missing a frame. |
| 00:14.04 | Mike-N-Go | Dewin: CreateFrame() |
| 00:14.57 | Dewin | Ah. The copypasta wasn't seasoned properly. |
| 00:15.14 | Wobin | Dewin: A self propogating printer is always cool =) |
| 00:15.47 | Dewin | google reprap, first result or so |
| 00:16.57 | Iriel | Xinhuan: Why does AddonA have red text on the selection screen? what reason is given? (re. your post 1 in that thread) |
| 00:17.10 | Xinhuan | its lod |
| 00:17.22 | Xinhuan | lod = red text |
| 00:17.42 | Xinhuan | red text = won't be loaded |
| 00:18.10 | Mike-N-Go | Or maybe.. someone colored it red! |
| 00:18.21 | Dewin | Hmmm. I do not think UIDropDownMenuTemplate does what I think it does. |
| 00:18.48 | Dewin | at least, setpointing something to the right of it is having very weird results (it's being attached about midway through instead) |
| 00:18.51 | Mike-N-Go | Dewin: How can that be? You think it does not do what you think! Conflict. |
| 00:19.51 | Dewin | I don't think you're thinking what I think you think I think you're thinking. |
| 00:20.25 | Mike-N-Go | Wait! I do think!! |
| 00:20.40 | Xinhuan | line 63 of GlueXML\AddonList.lua says it sets the text red if the addon is not loadable, but enabled and the reason is ~= "DEP_DISABLED" |
| 00:22.22 | Iriel | yes, but that's AddOnB |
| 00:22.23 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: does it get that reason from an API command or a gluexml only command? |
| 00:22.30 | Iriel | AddOnA is loadABLE, just not loadED |
| 00:22.40 | Xinhuan | well i don't know |
| 00:22.45 | Xinhuan | its simply not loading |
| 00:22.52 | Xinhuan | until forced to with loadaddon |
| 00:23.00 | Arrowmaster | addon loading has just been broken in some why or another all of 3.0 |
| 00:23.02 | Xinhuan | ## LoadWith works though, as far as aslestine can tell |
| 00:23.03 | Iriel | I'll fiddle in a bit and send zoot my opinion as a 'friend of the court' 8-) |
| 00:23.05 | Arrowmaster | way |
| 00:23.20 | Xinhuan | also gluexml has the following |
| 00:23.23 | Xinhuan | name, title, notes, url, loadable, reason, security, newVersion = GetAddOnInfo(addonIndex); |
| 00:23.32 | Xinhuan | notice a new URL reply there |
| 00:23.44 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
| 00:23.46 | Xinhuan | if a url reply is there |
| 00:23.47 | Xinhuan | versionButton.tooltip = ADDON_UPDATE_AVAILABLE..CLICK_TO_LAUNCH_ADDON_URL..url; |
| 00:23.47 | Arrowmaster | could that be why? |
| 00:24.14 | Xinhuan | its a hint that they plan to support addon updating of some sort for official blizzard addons? |
| 00:24.17 | Dewin | the hell? |
| 00:24.24 | Arrowmaster | check GetAddOnInfo() ingame, maybe they forgot to actually change GetAddOnInfo() but changed the GlueXML |
| 00:24.26 | Iriel | You may want to check it hasn't always been that way |
| 00:24.40 | Iriel | some of the functions with the same name in the glue environment actually behave differently |
| 00:24.57 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
| 00:25.00 | Xinhuan | definitely didn't check if the signature changed |
| 00:25.12 | Xinhuan | wowwiki just lists |
| 00:25.13 | Xinhuan | name, title, notes, enabled, loadable, reason, security = GetAddOnInfo(index or "name") |
| 00:25.25 | Iriel | yes, wowwiki doesn't document glue functions |
| 00:25.27 | Iriel | since there's no point |
| 00:25.39 | Xinhuan | its still a useful function |
| 00:26.03 | Xinhuan | for a ingame addon control panel to let you turn on/off/load addons while in game, and reloadui |
| 00:26.12 | Xinhuan | anyhow |
| 00:26.19 | Xinhuan | its probably a bug |
| 00:26.34 | Iriel | I'm just saying that the functions in the glue environment aren't identical to those in the game environment, even if they have the same name |
| 00:26.47 | Iriel | I'm not questioning the utility of the LOD API's 8-) |
| 00:28.41 | Arrowmaster | Usage: EnableAddOn("character", index) |
| 00:28.47 | Arrowmaster | guessing thats GlueXML? |
| 00:29.11 | Iriel | They confused the hell out of me when they first showed up |
| 00:29.37 | Arrowmaster | Usage: LaunchAddOnURL(index) |
| 00:29.43 | Iriel | (largely because I was trying to work out how i'd broken my scripts) |
| 00:30.04 | Iriel | There's been 'URL' stuff in there for quite some time |
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| 00:30.14 | Iriel | I think when they added the secure/insecure |
| 00:30.21 | Iriel | Hard to tell exactly where they were going though |
| 00:30.46 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_LykTpxge8&feature=related |
| 00:30.54 | mikma | thats cool, check it out |
| 00:30.55 | kneeki | How do I go about returning the first word of a string? |
| 00:31.06 | mikma | the ear-biter / mike tyson was funny |
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| 00:31.52 | Dewin | hmm |
| 00:32.05 | Dewin | you can't have frame a dependant on frame b's left but frame b dependant on frame a's bottom? >.> |
| 00:32.21 | Iriel | local firstword = strsplit(" ", input) |
| 00:32.42 | Iriel | You can stick extra characters into that first string if you want different types of whitespace to be allowed |
| 00:32.51 | Iriel | or you can use regexps |
| 00:32.58 | Iriel | depends heavily on what you want to do exactly |
| 00:33.07 | Iriel | Dewin: No, that forms a cycle |
| 00:33.23 | Dewin | Not really, since one's horizontal and one's vertical. |
| 00:33.25 | Dewin | but meh. |
| 00:33.44 | Iriel | Dewin: The constraint system thinks they are a cycle (and the 'secure' propagation does) |
| 00:33.50 | Dewin | I guess Blizzard's positioning code isn't *that* intelligent |
| 00:34.53 | batrick | Iriel: I've been wanting to set up a button on left click to cast W spell on unit X and on right click to cast spell Y on unit Z... is that possible? I haven't been able to get any confirmation or examples anywhere (including here) |
| 00:34.56 | kneeki | Iriel: Thanks =) |
| 00:35.11 | Iriel | batrick: it's possible in a few ways |
| 00:35.28 | Iriel | batrick: You can do it directly with attribute suffixes |
| 00:35.46 | batrick | well, I did that and it didn't seem to do anything, I'll pastey code |
| 00:35.46 | Iriel | "spell1" "spell2" "unit1" "unit2" |
| 00:35.54 | Iriel | You do need to register for clicks tho |
| 00:35.58 | Iriel | for the right button |
| 00:37.38 | batrick | http://wowi.pastey.net/98121 |
| 00:37.38 | Iriel | Xinhuan: Well, I WOULD test your code now but I forgot to patch this machine before I left so it needs to D/L some stuff |
| 00:37.51 | batrick | I set unit1 and unit2 a little later |
| 00:37.57 | Movix | GEM3UI now work with 3.xx thx to all of you that helped me :-) |
| 00:38.05 | batrick | I see I missed RegisterForClicks on right button |
| 00:38.12 | batrick | but left button doesn't work either |
| 00:38.28 | Iriel | The normal wow UI looks for up's not down's, doesn't it? |
| 00:38.33 | kneeki | Iriel: Is there a way to then exclude the first word, and include the rest of the string? Or would that require a bit more work? |
| 00:38.38 | Xinhuan | its ok :) |
| 00:38.46 | Iriel | kneeki: at that point you should use a regexp |
| 00:39.02 | kneeki | hmm |
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| 00:40.21 | Iriel | local first, rest = string.match(input, "^%s*(%S+)%s*(.*)$"); |
| 00:40.36 | Xinhuan | i think %w matches a word in lua? ;p |
| 00:40.40 | Iriel | If you want to trim spaces off the end you could do... |
| 00:40.58 | Arrowmaster | you never want to use the shortcuts in lua patterns for wow if you can help it |
| 00:41.04 | kneeki | Iriel: Holy jeez, that looks like a bunch of jumbled mess =P |
| 00:41.05 | Iriel | "%^s*(%S+)%s*(.-)%s*$" |
| 00:41.13 | kneeki | Iriel: I take it that the jibberish is the filters? |
| 00:41.16 | Xinhuan | well they do tell you what the longcut version of %w is |
| 00:41.29 | Iriel | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#5.4.1 |
| 00:41.42 | kneeki | woo! |
| 00:41.45 | kneeki | Now that explains a bit |
| 00:41.52 | kneeki | Thanks :D |
| 00:41.57 | Arrowmaster | except those shortcuts dont work properly in wow |
| 00:42.00 | Iriel | I meant "^%s.... not "%^s.... earlier |
| 00:42.09 | Arrowmaster | due to utf8 |
| 00:42.26 | Iriel | Arrowmaster: They work perfectly, it's just that folks have to realize the data is interpreted as ASCII, not UTF8 |
| 00:42.37 | Iriel | Arrowmaster: They 'appear to work improperly' perhaps 8-) |
| 00:42.43 | Iriel | (Yes, I have my pedant hat on) |
| 00:42.45 | Arrowmaster | like blizzard mucked with string.upper and string.lower but not with any of the pattern matching |
| 00:44.04 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 00:44.06 | Arrowmaster | - SetScriptMemory(ScriptMemory:GetText()); |
| 00:44.19 | Arrowmaster | i diffed the AddonList.lua from live to beta |
| 00:46.49 | Arrowmaster | nothing changed in it api wise, just some stuff like this to self mainly |
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| 00:49.18 | Iriel | Err.. Xinhuan ... |
| 00:49.51 | Iriel | I just tried the LoD thing on LK beta and it's all working as expected |
| 00:50.29 | Iriel | Oh, hang on,.. I didn't QUITE test it right. |
| 00:51.59 | Xinhuan | did you use my zip? |
| 00:52.08 | Gnarfoz | maybe expectations also differ? |
| 00:52.27 | Iriel | I was testing something slightly different (inadvertently) |
| 00:52.34 | Iriel | though it was actually a very useful test |
| 00:52.37 | Wobin | but it worked! =) |
| 00:52.57 | Iriel | If ALL of the addons involved are LOD everything works as expected |
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| 00:53.09 | Iriel | it's only a problem if the initator isn't LoD |
| 00:53.26 | Arrowmaster | Iriel: huh? if everything is LoD then wouldnt nothing load? |
| 00:53.42 | Iriel | Yes, but when you LoadAddOn the 'root', the dependencies all load correctly |
| 00:53.56 | Iriel | (afterall the whole point of LoD is you load it later, sometimes) |
| 00:54.11 | Xinhuan | what is the "root" here? |
| 00:54.26 | Xinhuan | you're saying loading A will automatically cause B to load? |
| 00:54.28 | Gnarfoz | well, but the 'root' addon would not be likely to be LoD itself, too |
| 00:54.45 | Iriel | In X's example, if A and B are LoD, then loading B causes A to load first |
| 00:54.46 | Gnarfoz | because... well, there'd have to be some *other* addon again to do the loading |
| 00:55.10 | Xinhuan | oh well, that's still a failure since some other addon would still have to call LoadAddOn(B) ;p |
| 00:55.14 | Wobin | http://www.dianeduane.com/images/VoldemortThatOne.jpg |
| 00:55.16 | Iriel | Anyway, i'm firing off some mail to the blizzfolks |
| 00:55.21 | Gnarfoz | what I said, Xinhuan ^^ |
| 00:55.32 | Syzgyn | Wobin: I dont get it |
| 00:56.01 | Wobin | Syzgyn: It's atypically American politics |
| 00:56.25 | Wobin | s/atypically// |
| 00:56.32 | Wobin | related |
| 00:56.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: yeah, there's nothing atypical abou tit ;) |
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| 00:57.34 | Xinhuan | the annoying part of these tests is you have to restart wow fully everytime :< |
| 00:57.36 | Shirik|Ecole | nice |
| 00:57.38 | Shirik|Ecole | An airport with actual FREE internet |
| 00:57.39 | Xinhuan | since its ToC edits |
| 00:57.42 | Shirik|Ecole | not that "free" internet that you actually have to pay a fee for |
| 00:58.54 | Wobin | Shirik: Free as in beer =P |
| 00:59.11 | Shirik | YOU |
| 00:59.16 | Shirik | You're french aren't you? |
| 00:59.16 | NightHawkTheSane | i want free beer. |
| 00:59.36 | Wobin | moi? |
| 00:59.42 | Shirik | hai |
| 01:00.18 | Wobin | nyet |
| 01:00.25 | NightHawkTheSane | also, free beer! http://www.freebeer.org/blog/ |
| 01:00.31 | Shirik | Hrm... someone asked me a while ago who was french in the channel and I was convinced that it was a name in the channel that started with a W |
| 01:00.34 | Shirik | I still have yet to figure it out |
| 01:00.42 | Wobin | we back to this conversation, are we? |
| 01:00.46 | NightHawkTheSane | (which, amusingly, is not free as in beer..) |
| 01:00.46 | Shirik | oh |
| 01:00.50 | Shirik | have we had this before :/ |
| 01:00.53 | Shirik | sorry :( |
| 01:00.53 | Wobin | yeah =) |
| 01:01.08 | Wobin | for the record, I'm an Aussie |
| 01:01.13 | Shirik | close enough |
| 01:01.22 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, french, aussie, what's the difference, really |
| 01:01.35 | Wobin | You're probably closer to french than I am =) |
| 01:01.38 | Shirik | Here in the US, we know of only two cultures: "American" and "Everyone else" |
| 01:01.51 | Wobin | "forn" |
| 01:02.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: no, we also recognize canadians, but mostly fur purposes of mockery. |
| 01:02.34 | Wobin | and moose. |
| 01:02.36 | Shirik | only because they have Cairenn |
| 01:03.03 | Shirik | also it is freezing in here omg |
| 01:03.09 | Shirik | ~weather KCLT |
| 01:03.33 | Shirik | ~weather KDAB |
| 01:03.45 | Shirik | :( want to go back to my 80 degree weather |
| 01:04.06 | Wobin | hm |
| 01:04.11 | Wobin | That's the weather hereabouts |
| 01:04.19 | Shirik | what's your airport? |
| 01:04.33 | Wobin | ~weather SYD |
| 01:04.41 | Shirik | SYD is not ICAO code |
| 01:04.47 | Shirik | ICAO codes are always 4 letters |
| 01:04.49 | Shirik | sydney? |
| 01:05.03 | Wobin | yeah |
| 01:05.10 | Shirik | ~weather YSSY |
| 01:05.48 | Shirik | SYD is the IATA code which needs to be stabbed but the FAA continues to use it :( |
| 01:06.16 | Shirik | wow that's one hell of an airport |
| 01:06.42 | Wobin | howso? |
| 01:06.45 | mikma | oh! is there the evil ironforge somewhere? |
| 01:06.52 | Neuro_Medivh | Has wowi found a way to stop wowmatrix from directly pulling their addons yet? |
| 01:06.54 | ScytheBlade1 | mikma: yes |
| 01:06.59 | ScytheBlade1 | ~weather SLC |
| 01:07.05 | Shirik | ~fail ScytheBlade1 |
| 01:07.06 | purl | ScytheBlade1, you Fail! |
| 01:07.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, what is it |
| 01:07.09 | ScytheBlade1 | SLC fits :/ |
| 01:07.13 | Shirik | no it does not |
| 01:07.16 | Shirik | is it in the US? |
| 01:07.18 | ScytheBlade1 | It is |
| 01:07.21 | Shirik | Put a K before it |
| 01:07.26 | ScytheBlade1 | ~weather KSLC |
| 01:07.30 | Neuro_Medivh | cause if not, then tuesday Wowmatrix is gonna slam the crap out of wowi =( |
| 01:07.35 | Shirik | (21:04:44) (@Shirik) ICAO codes are always 4 letters |
| 01:07.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Whine moer about your weather :P |
| 01:07.43 | ScytheBlade1 | 36F, 2.2C |
| 01:07.45 | ScytheBlade1 | *more |
| 01:07.52 | Shirik | freezing |
| 01:07.53 | Shirik | literally |
| 01:07.59 | Shirik | I'd die there |
| 01:07.59 | Wobin | well, just above |
| 01:08.10 | ScytheBlade1 | This is nothing, too |
| 01:08.19 | Shirik | ok never visiting you |
| 01:08.22 | ScytheBlade1 | We see <0F winters and >100F summers |
| 01:08.22 | Shirik | you can come visit me if you want |
| 01:08.37 | Wobin | Meh |
| 01:08.40 | Wobin | we have nicer beachers |
| 01:08.42 | Wobin | beache |
| 01:08.43 | Wobin | s |
| 01:08.44 | Wobin | >< |
| 01:08.45 | mikma | ScytheBlade1: where? =/ |
| 01:08.48 | Shirik | your entire country is a beach |
| 01:08.48 | ScytheBlade1 | You have *beaches :P |
| 01:08.50 | Wobin | Salt Lake City |
| 01:08.58 | ScytheBlade1 | And yeah |
| 01:08.59 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:09.12 | Wobin | Land of the Corn Children |
| 01:09.24 | Shirik | corn children? |
| 01:09.26 | Wobin | or is that Ohio |
| 01:09.31 | ScytheBlade1 | That's... not SLC |
| 01:09.32 | ScytheBlade1 | ...... |
| 01:10.06 | schnoggo | corn children would be Iowa |
| 01:10.28 | Wobin | oh hey, that's actually Nebraska |
| 01:10.33 | schnoggo | Trust, me: i'm in mn |
| 01:10.34 | Wobin | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_of_the_Corn |
| 01:10.42 | schnoggo | pfft |
| 01:11.08 | Shirik | anyway, Wobin, reason I said that is just because those runways are huge |
| 01:11.18 | Wobin | Iowa was the state I was originally after |
| 01:11.33 | Shirik | but I guess you get a lot of international flights |
| 01:11.36 | Wobin | yeah |
| 01:11.37 | Wobin | Well |
| 01:11.46 | Wobin | -everything- pretty much is international =) |
| 01:12.21 | Wobin | Domestic is off to the side |
| 01:12.25 | Shirik | but seriouisly |
| 01:12.27 | Shirik | 3 mile runways? |
| 01:13.07 | Wobin | where are you reading up on this? |
| 01:13.12 | Shirik | wikipedia :) |
| 01:13.43 | Wobin | That's metres =) |
| 01:13.55 | Wobin | 4km |
| 01:14.01 | Shirik | 13018 ft |
| 01:14.05 | Shirik | == just under 3 miles |
| 01:14.24 | Shirik | runway 16R/34L |
| 01:14.43 | Shirik | which doesn't actually add up but I'm not going to complain right now |
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| 01:15.49 | Shirik | oh wait yes it does |
| 01:15.51 | Shirik | I just can't add |
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| 01:17.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: your "cold" 66F is amazingly warm :P |
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| 01:17.58 | Shirik | no |
| 01:18.04 | Shirik | anything under 75 is cold |
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| 01:18.31 | ScytheBlade1 | You are so broken |
| 01:18.37 | ScytheBlade1 | I knew this before now you're just reinforcing the point |
| 01:18.44 | Shirik | hey hey |
| 01:18.48 | Shirik | I was thinking of you on the plane |
| 01:18.51 | Shirik | I forget why though |
| 01:18.53 | ScytheBlade1 | ....... |
| 01:18.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Like |
| 01:18.58 | Shirik | oh yeah I was coding Java! And I made a stupid mistake |
| 01:19.04 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm really curious |
| 01:19.05 | Shirik | and I was like "Haha that's something ScytheBlade1 would do" |
| 01:19.09 | ScytheBlade1 | But I'm not curious |
| 01:19.11 | ScytheBlade1 | And... .. |
| 01:19.16 | NightHawkTheSane | hahaha |
| 01:19.19 | ScytheBlade1 | I've been doing Java for about three weeks |
| 01:19.22 | Shirik | <3 <3 |
| 01:19.23 | ScytheBlade1 | In class, and that's pretty much it |
| 01:19.27 | NightHawkTheSane | ~Shirik++ |
| 01:19.34 | Shirik | I know I'm just messing with you :) |
| 01:19.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Doing stupid things is somewhat expected at the moment! |
| 01:19.50 | ScytheBlade1 | But seriously, did you really think that on the plain? |
| 01:19.57 | ScytheBlade1 | *plane |
| 01:21.05 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 nice.. http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/october/diablo3concert.jpg |
| 01:21.09 | Shirik | yes ScytheBlade1 >< |
| 01:21.15 | ScytheBlade1 | That's kind of awesome and creepy |
| 01:21.19 | Iriel | That was an awesome moment in the show |
| 01:21.22 | ScytheBlade1 | And mildly insulting, but not enough to care |
| 01:21.22 | Shirik | I was working on the new WoWI Updater! |
| 01:21.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Good |
| 01:21.30 | Shirik | I'm just messing :) |
| 01:21.37 | Iriel | Apparently as you level up you get a unicorn mount |
| 01:21.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah I know |
| 01:21.40 | ScytheBlade1 | ~failrik |
| 01:21.41 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 01:21.43 | ScytheBlade1 | As am I |
| 01:21.44 | Shirik | hahaha yes NightHawkTheSane |
| 01:21.45 | Shirik | that was awesome |
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| 01:22.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Curious, what was the mistake that you made? |
| 01:22.49 | Shirik | um |
| 01:23.18 | Shirik | I forget actually :/ hrm |
| 01:23.22 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:23.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Well just think stupid and you might get it ;) |
| 01:23.49 | Shirik | oh I remember |
| 01:24.07 | Iriel | Hey Shirik / ScytheBlade1 -- do you guys use checkstyle on your java code? |
| 01:24.30 | Shirik | I actually don't know what checkstyle is, but my style pretty much conforms to Java's guidelines as far as I'm aware |
| 01:24.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: I don't, but I know of a friend who is forced to for his school assignments. I've heard horror stories. |
| 01:24.53 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: Basically, suffice to say, I was using the wrong variable. It's kinda complicated to explain but that's the basic of it |
| 01:25.00 | Iriel | ScytheBlade1: It's really GOOD and useful (as long as you pick a sane subset of the rules) |
| 01:25.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah. It wouldn't surprise me if said subset of rules was not sane |
| 01:25.30 | Shirik | "Checking if build environment is sane...yes" |
| 01:25.35 | Iriel | At least understanding what rules are available and why they may be useful can really help the quality of ones code |
| 01:25.42 | ScytheBlade1 | But due to that I haven't looked into it |
| 01:25.51 | ScytheBlade1 | You're really a fan, huh? |
| 01:25.53 | Shirik | let's take a looksie |
| 01:26.10 | Iriel | I require it at work for the developers (and myself) |
| 01:26.13 | Iriel | I use it at home too tho |
| 01:26.15 | Shirik | oh wow you can plug it into Ant? |
| 01:26.19 | Iriel | It helps me avoid bad habits |
| 01:26.21 | Shirik | that integrates very well with my IDE |
| 01:26.26 | Iriel | What's your IDE? |
| 01:26.29 | Shirik | Netbeans |
| 01:26.55 | Iriel | ah.. cool. |
| 01:27.07 | Iriel | (There's a decent eclipse plug-in too) |
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| 01:27.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: I'm really just beginning with Java. Still not sure if it's something I want to use consistently in the future. But, that eclipse plugin intrigues me |
| 01:27.29 | NightHawkTheSane | i hate qwest. |
| 01:27.37 | ScytheBlade1 | And hearing such a glowing review of it makes me curious |
| 01:28.12 | Shirik | Netbeans does some of these checks by itself, but some of it is good additions too |
| 01:29.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: Anything in specific that you love about it? |
| 01:29.53 | Shirik | Examples of poor choice of words: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/53d6cfde65534f7867d3b4c1c2db624b.jpg |
| 01:29.56 | Shirik | "Please wait a while..." |
| 01:30.19 | Shirik | Not "Please wait," it was very clear that it would take "a while" |
| 01:31.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: it was just trying to reinforce the fact hat it would take "a while", and maybe you should get a cup of coffee, or call your mom. |
| 01:31.22 | Shirik | it took like 15 seconds >< |
| 01:31.45 | NightHawkTheSane | well, maybe it assumes your mom is dead, and you're out of coffee? |
| 01:31.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: you use it with Eclipse by chance? |
| 01:32.11 | Iriel | ScytheBlade1: yeah |
| 01:32.25 | ScytheBlade1 | I just installed the plugin, how would I go about using it? |
| 01:32.27 | Iriel | I held out on eclipse for a LONG time but its benefits outweigh it's limitations |
| 01:32.41 | Shirik | so Iriel are you back home now? |
| 01:32.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Because either my code is entirely perfect or I'm not using the plugin right |
| 01:32.48 | Iriel | ScytheBlade1: You can just enable it for a project (just look at the eclipse preferences at the project level) |
| 01:32.53 | ScytheBlade1 | hmm k |
| 01:32.55 | Iriel | It defaults ot 'disabled' |
| 01:33.14 | Iriel | The built in rules aren't the same ones I use, so YMMV 8-) |
| 01:33.21 | Iriel | Shirik: I am, I drove back this morning |
| 01:33.26 | Shirik | no Disney? :( |
| 01:33.31 | ScytheBlade1 | "Line contains a tab character." |
| 01:33.35 | ScytheBlade1 | That warning gets to die :) |
| 01:33.41 | Shirik | NO! |
| 01:33.51 | Shirik | That's a default rule? <3 <3 |
| 01:33.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Apparently |
| 01:33.57 | Shirik | Cide! Tell him! |
| 01:33.58 | Iriel | No tabs |
| 01:34.00 | Iriel | Kill tabs |
| 01:34.02 | Iriel | kill tabs |
| 01:34.07 | ScytheBlade1 | 391 warnings, though I have tabs everywhere |
| 01:34.10 | Iriel | It's a rule in mine 8-) |
| 01:34.14 | Iriel | You can tell eclipse to remove them |
| 01:34.19 | Iriel | Then you just have to open, edit, save each file |
| 01:34.28 | Cide | Iriel does a good job, Shirik |
| 01:34.30 | Shirik | I have a precommit hook on my SVN server that denies any upload with a tab character in it |
| 01:34.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Why the hate on tabs? :( |
| 01:34.45 | Iriel | Shirik: I've come very very close 8-) |
| 01:34.51 | Xinhuan | Shirik: when people tell me "one sec", i press a macro that says "your one second is over" ;p |
| 01:34.53 | Iriel | Because they're a nightmare for cross-editor compatibility |
| 01:35.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Not in anything I've seen |
| 01:35.14 | ScytheBlade1 | From Eclipse to BlueJay to vim to kdevelop to textpad |
| 01:35.16 | Xinhuan | i should totally make an addon that does that |
| 01:35.35 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: The problem comes in when you have two editors that don't use the same tab widths and they aren't a multiple of each other |
| 01:36.16 | Shirik | it becomes a zig zag, especially for if you align comments to the right |
| 01:36.40 | ScytheBlade1 | I have honestly never had that problem, and I work towards putting tabs everywhere |
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| 01:36.52 | NightHawkTheSane | what, this topic again? :P |
| 01:36.57 | Iriel | Tabs in source code |
| 01:36.59 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 started it! |
| 01:37.08 | Iriel | and the problems when you have a team of developers on different environments |
| 01:37.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Iriel: yeah, i know it, i've had this discussion with Shirik and Cide before :) |
| 01:39.13 | selckin | there is right or wrong way, just the way you decide todo your project, and all devs should configure editor to follow it |
| 01:39.17 | selckin | *no |
| 01:39.21 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: i think ultimately it boiled down to the fact that tabs after the first non-tab character in a line cause significant alignment issues, particularly with right-aligned comments, or in-line comments aligned vertically |
| 01:39.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh |
| 01:39.45 | ScytheBlade1 | That |
| 01:40.07 | Iriel | the 'right' way is to use spaces in your committed files |
| 01:40.16 | Iriel | and then your editor can simulate whatever the hell it wants tab-wise |
| 01:40.27 | Iriel | you can even locally tabify and untabify on load/save |
| 01:40.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Iriel: except, when some joker uses a 6+ space indentation, and it looks crazy bad on my screen :P |
| 01:40.52 | Iriel | Select all; Reindent; |
| 01:41.04 | Iriel | (Command-A; Tab - in eclipse) |
| 01:41.08 | Iriel | (on the mac) |
| 01:41.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 01:41.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Or configure the formatter |
| 01:41.23 | Iriel | Well, you do that first |
| 01:41.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 01:41.31 | Iriel | but you have to select and tab to have ti RE format stuff |
| 01:41.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Again, only been playing with java for a few weeks. Eclipse, the same |
| 01:41.54 | Shirik | eclipse = growl |
| 01:41.55 | Iriel | I can /mostly/ get the formatter to match my style and tolerate the differences these days |
| 01:41.57 | selckin | Iriel: same arguement can be made for tabs |
| 01:42.00 | Shirik | but not getting into that discussion right now :) |
| 01:42.01 | selckin | Iriel: its just convention |
| 01:42.05 | Shirik | no it can't selckin |
| 01:42.22 | ScytheBlade1 | If I ignore the tab warnings |
| 01:42.46 | ScytheBlade1 | The only other warnings it throws at me are spacing issues, ie, int a = b/c; |
| 01:42.53 | ScytheBlade1 | And it wants a space before and after the / |
| 01:43.01 | Shirik | selckin: The problem is not "Extra tabs" |
| 01:43.09 | Shirik | it is that they will not line up due to differences in tabstops |
| 01:43.10 | ScytheBlade1 | And there are about... six of those warnings |
| 01:43.25 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, I've just had very bad experiences with developers who either use stupid-huge indentations in spaces, and do that even in files that aren't indented like that. >< and not all editors have a reformat option :p |
| 01:43.37 | NightHawkTheSane | and not all developers properly respect the formatting once it's set. |
| 01:43.54 | Shirik | ok apparently we're about to board so... byes |
| 01:43.58 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 01:43.58 | ScytheBlade1 | cya |
| 01:44.37 | ScytheBlade1 | The only other thing it complains about is that I declare a byte[4] array, 4 being a magic number |
| 01:45.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Which I really don't care at all about, declaring another variable just for that is somewhat pointless and it's clear in this context |
| 01:46.56 | ZorbaTHut | is there an easy way to return multiple values where some of them are from a function which, itself, returns multiple values? like: function foo() return 1, 2 end function bar() return foo(), 3, 4 end -- some way to make this equivalent to return 1, 2, 3, 4 |
| 01:46.59 | Iriel | I think it's overzealous about those |
| 01:47.10 | Iriel | ZorbaTHut: If they're at the END, yes |
| 01:47.25 | Iriel | But not at the beginning, you need to use a table |
| 01:47.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: good, I was about to ask if you enforce all of these default rules and if you enforce that it throw no warnings at all :) |
| 01:47.29 | ZorbaTHut | unfortunately, they can't be at the end :( |
| 01:48.06 | Iriel | ScytheBlade1: Let me dig out a copy of the rules I use |
| 01:48.21 | ScytheBlade1 | That would actually be great, I'm curious |
| 01:48.23 | Iriel | Are there a fixed number? |
| 01:49.51 | Iriel | ScytheBlade1: It'll take a couple of mins for my laptop to boot and login |
| 01:50.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: not a problem, thanks just the same |
| 01:51.56 | Kaso | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54iAkkjsfrA |
| 01:51.59 | Kaso | This is a damn cool advert |
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| 01:53.00 | Sixen | Rawr! |
| 02:00.32 | Iriel | ScytheBlade1: http://wow.pastey.net/98124 |
| 02:00.48 | Iriel | You can save that as an .xml file and tell checkstyle to use it as a configuration (in the GLOBAL preferences for checkstyle in eclipse) |
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| 02:01.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Been poking with it |
| 02:02.22 | Sixen | Iriel, thanks for grabbing me that shirt, =X |
| 02:03.11 | Iriel | Sixen: NP.. really cairenn grabbed it, I just had to open my car since the bag was in there 8-) |
| 02:04.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: yeah, using your rules takes it down to four warnings (all of which are whitespace related in division), that's quite a bit better |
| 02:05.22 | Iriel | ScytheBlade1: I'm impressed, you've got good habits (or very little code 8-)) |
| 02:05.25 | Sixen | Hehe, true, =) |
| 02:05.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: few hundred lines. This is a class that parses WoW's .dbc files |
| 02:06.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, nope, there's a cast without a following space. That's really about it |
| 02:06.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Or in short, I like my lines a bit more compact :) |
| 02:07.14 | ScytheBlade1 | But I can see how this would be useful in a larger place |
| 02:07.28 | ScytheBlade1 | And I really see why you enforce it |
| 02:07.34 | Iriel | ScytheBlade1: I used to like less whitespace, but I've found this helps readability, especially when i'm trying to read someone else's stuff |
| 02:07.41 | Iriel | (or my own from ages past) |
| 02:08.44 | ScytheBlade1 | I tend to write my code with whitespace as I feel it's relevant... I have some lines with quite a bit of math in a single statement, but all of these warnings are on single lines, ie, "int a = b/c" or "int a = (int)whatever-goes-here" |
| 02:10.14 | ScytheBlade1 | The longer lines have relevant whitespace to allow for logical grouping while reading, and while you have me in terms of just being consistent, I don't feel that "(int)var" is a real problem. |
| 02:11.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, "(int)var" on a single line all by it's lonesome :) |
| 02:15.59 | Duman | wee |
| 02:16.20 | Iriel | http://www.iriel.org/wow/images/Blizzcon2008UIGroup.jpg |
| 02:16.43 | ScytheBlade1 | It's growing! |
| 02:17.14 | Duman | hehe nice |
| 02:17.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Now we just need the labels :) |
| 02:18.23 | Duman | wow, did I really have the only white shirt? |
| 02:18.36 | Duman | well, almost |
| 02:18.39 | Kaso | black is seemingly very popular |
| 02:19.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha, now we know where Duman is! |
| 02:19.30 | Duman | :) |
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| 02:21.16 | Duman | cog missed the url |
| 02:21.19 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.iriel.org/wow/images/Blizzcon2008UIGroup.jpg |
| 02:25.15 | Shadowed | Wasn't Cairenn lying on the floor like that last BlizzCon? Or am I getting her mixed up |
| 02:25.25 | ScytheBlade1 | She was iirc |
| 02:27.55 | Iriel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10971913067&postId=109709673189&sid=1#1 |
| 02:28.20 | Iriel | Can someone else who was there verify my name associations |
| 02:28.32 | Shadowed | This time she can't delete the picture like she did last year! |
| 02:28.46 | |pez| | I love how all your lanyards look the same! |
| 02:29.05 | Iriel | Wear your blizzcon badge with pride! |
| 02:29.43 | |pez| | also, Iriel, I love how your text is green! |
| 02:30.03 | Iriel | "Rawr" |
| 02:30.18 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 02:30.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: your top row, second ? is Duman |
| 02:31.01 | ScytheBlade1 | White shirt |
| 02:31.02 | Iriel | Thank you |
| 02:31.12 | Iriel | Oh yes |
| 02:31.13 | Iriel | so it is |
| 02:34.13 | |pez| | I should really uninstall irc, msn and every other IM program, burn my external HDDs with TV-Series, sever most of my internet connection... and then go to bed. :p |
| 02:34.38 | batrick | cheap home server + all that stuff = win |
| 02:35.09 | |pez| | I need to not let stuff distract me! >__> |
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| 02:35.44 | batrick | you're less likely to get distracted, I think, if you have it running off your desktop |
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| 02:36.21 | |pez| | Like, have it running on something else, and connect to it once in a while? :P |
| 02:36.31 | batrick | basically, yes |
| 02:36.42 | |pez| | Yeaaah, probably. |
| 02:36.49 | |pez| | Can't afford a home server though. |
| 02:37.54 | batrick | it's like 200$ seriously |
| 02:38.05 | batrick | i suppose that might be too much, but it is very affordable |
| 02:39.28 | |pez| | I'll be paying... around 9000$ for schoolstuff realsoon. :P I've got... less than that XD |
| 02:40.13 | batrick | well I guess save when youc an |
| 02:40.33 | batrick | having your own server you can ssh to from anywhere is just sweet |
| 02:40.46 | batrick | and does all that stuff for you that you can check up on |
| 02:40.53 | batrick | read IRC in class, etc. |
| 02:41.24 | |pez| | I do rent a linode. But it should be reserved for... my websites. |
| 02:42.00 | batrick | what do you mean by reserved? does it service clients? or just personal? |
| 02:42.12 | |pez| | Just personal. |
| 02:42.38 | |pez| | For now anyway. |
| 02:42.38 | batrick | I know people that use linode for personal sites and for IRC |
| 02:42.45 | batrick | among many other things surely |
| 02:43.44 | |pez| | I'll see how performance is when I get my stuff over to the new linode. ( got someone to set up a new one properly for me, as my current one is sort of a mess... ) |
| 02:43.58 | batrick | using a linode for just personal websites seems like terrible under-utilization to me :) |
| 02:44.17 | |pez| | So I ordered a new one, and I'll delete the first one when the merge is done. |
| 02:44.35 | |pez| | batrick: I might at some point, host a online store on it. |
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| 02:44.43 | |pez| | wait, not merge, but... move. |
| 02:45.54 | |pez| | Actually, I plan on some point hosting something more than just personal sites. |
| 02:46.27 | |pez| | I just need to get rid of my procastination gene, and get to it. XD |
| 02:48.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh. Someone just asked what the square root of pi is in raid. |
| 02:48.17 | ScytheBlade1 | I responded |
| 02:48.18 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:48.29 | ScytheBlade1 | And people got scared. |
| 02:48.35 | |pez| | haha |
| 02:48.39 | batrick | hehe |
| 02:49.01 | |pez| | I'll... go to bed now, it's 5am and all that stuff... |
| 02:49.08 | |pez| | ninight! |
| 02:49.18 | batrick | night pez |
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| 02:53.08 | Amarande | ok, am I just imagining it or did Nadina's just completely change its role in caster itemization? |
| 02:54.25 | NightHawkTheSane | huh? |
| 02:56.11 | Amarande | Night: the neckpiece Mother drops |
| 02:56.21 | Amarande | in 2.x, it was strictly a healer itemization |
| 02:56.35 | Amarande | in 3.0, it looks like it becomes *the* premier amulet for mages, ele shamans and destro locks |
| 02:57.20 | sacarasc | if the ele shamans have done mother enough they should already have one just lying around... |
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| 02:58.10 | NightHawkTheSane | the 2.x version is really only good for holy pallies and -maybe- other healers for situational use anyway |
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| 02:59.58 | NightHawkTheSane | even in 3.0, i doubt you'll see many healing priests or druids who want it, so as a healer piece, it'd be mostly for resto shaman and holy pallies |
| 03:03.43 | Amarande | shows you how much I know about healing gear LOL |
| 03:04.28 | NightHawkTheSane | crit is not typically highly desirable stat for priests & druids. |
| 03:05.17 | Amarande | I always thought critical heals were considered a good thing |
| 03:05.29 | NightHawkTheSane | they're nice i fyou get them, but they're fairly uncontrollable |
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| 03:05.47 | NightHawkTheSane | since you can't rely on critting when you need to, it's a bad idea to itemize for it. |
| 03:05.56 | NightHawkTheSane | you're better of stacking +heal, spirit, or mp/5 |
| 03:05.59 | NightHawkTheSane | off* |
| 03:06.26 | NightHawkTheSane | pallies (and resto shaman in 3.0) want crit because they have regen mechanics that utilize crit heals |
| 03:09.35 | widgertick | |
| 03:09.35 | widgertick | pardon? |
| 03:11.17 | NightHawkTheSane | really? i smell bacon.. |
| 03:11.37 | NightHawkTheSane | but that may have to do with the fact that i haven't cleaned my grill lately |
| 03:13.04 | JoshBorke | whoa, whos' this widgertick fella |
| 03:13.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Some nub |
| 03:13.17 | JoshBorke | obviously |
| 03:13.25 | Iriel | I like that 'pardon' may or may not have been french |
| 03:13.41 | Iriel | It that was intentional it was a nice move |
| 03:17.39 | Iriel | http://www.iriel.org/wow/images/D3Ponycorn.jpg |
| 03:17.45 | Iriel | For anyone who wanted a larger version of that graphic |
| 03:18.36 | Thunder_Child | the diablo 3 team shjopuld be shot |
| 03:18.40 | Thunder_Child | should* |
| 03:18.59 | ScytheBlade1 | That graphic is awesome |
| 03:19.06 | Thunder_Child | that was their shirt |
| 03:19.16 | Thunder_Child | based on the bitching that D3 was to colorful |
| 03:20.16 | NightHawkTheSane | that graphic is so my desktop picture now :p |
| 03:20.49 | Thunder_Child | i hate to malign the D3 people but i dont think they are keeping to the ambiance as well as they think they are |
| 03:21.47 | Iriel | NightHawkTheSane: It's not quite 'square' because I was off-axis from the screen, but it's reasonably close |
| 03:21.47 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10971862800&sid=1 - heh, go wintrader. Just had his team reset and got a 72 hour ban. |
| 03:22.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Iriel: meh, close enough for me. i'm not too picky :) |
| 03:25.23 | Arrowmaster | 'Maybe you should concentrate more on PVP if wintrading is the way you want to use to get your rewards. Im currently wintrading with mu'ru. We run in and let him win time after time.... ' |
| 03:25.24 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 03:25.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: yeah, that was good |
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| 03:29.53 | Tekkub | damnit Iriel |
| 03:34.55 | Sixen | Tekkub. I met you, yes? -X |
| 03:35.03 | Sixen | Hahaha, you got a pic of that, Iriel? |
| 03:35.08 | Sixen | Those shirts were awesome! |
| 03:35.35 | Tekkub | Sixen, I don't know, maybe? |
| 03:35.41 | Sixen | I know I saw you there, =p. |
| 03:36.00 | Iriel | I would imagine if youre both on the same photograph you met at least SOMEWHAT |
| 03:36.11 | Tekkub | were you at the group photo? |
| 03:36.46 | Tekkub | and where's Zooty, I need to harass him a little, my brain was mostly mush by the end of yesterday |
| 03:37.20 | Sixen | Good point, Iriel. |
| 03:37.35 | Sixen | I sat next to Iriel in the group photo; on his left. |
| 03:37.41 | Sixen | Just behind Cairenn./ |
| 03:37.50 | Tekkub | I was in the back on the side by 204 |
| 03:39.15 | Amarande | ScytheBlade1: that reminds me |
| 03:39.33 | Amarande | do people get banned for wintrading just because they encourage the only other team on the battlegroup near their rating to stay on? |
| 03:39.43 | Amarande | that seems to be what most of the accused wintraders are QQing that Blizzard is doing |
| 03:40.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Most of the accused wintraders are excellent QQers too, truthful or not |
| 03:40.28 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
| 03:40.34 | ScytheBlade1 | To quote a 2300+ rogue friend of mine, "You can't run that high without being emo" |
| 03:41.39 | Amarande | Basically, is Blizzard treating arena as that serious business that the top team should just have to hardly ever play? |
| 03:41.59 | ScytheBlade1 | here's the line |
| 03:42.06 | ScytheBlade1 | You arrange games, grats, wintrader |
| 03:42.11 | ScytheBlade1 | End of story |
| 03:42.23 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 03:42.54 | Sixen | hm... Is Cairenn's name Karen of Caren? |
| 03:43.25 | Sixen | She gave me her card, but I forgot. I'd feel dumb if i've been spelling it wrong all this time, -_- |
| 03:44.05 | Iriel | K |
| 03:45.31 | Thunder_Child | does http://www.windowsadvisor.pchealth.live.net/privacy/EN-US/ show up for anyone in FF? |
| 03:46.29 | Sixen | Alright, thought so, ;P. |
| 03:46.31 | Iriel | "undefined" |
| 03:46.39 | Sixen | @TC: Nope, nothing. |
| 03:46.42 | Sixen | "Undefined", yes. |
| 03:46.42 | Tekkub | just call her Cair :P |
| 03:46.43 | Thunder_Child | but it works in the IE tab |
| 03:46.53 | Sixen | Well Tekk, I was txting, so :(. |
| 03:46.54 | Thunder_Child | thats microsofts page |
| 03:47.27 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn sent me a text about that after i had already left :( |
| 03:48.57 | Tekkub | what the pic? yea we had gone back to the hotel cause L80ETC was just too much, we were wright under a speaker |
| 03:49.14 | Tekkub | I wanted to see VGL, but we couldn't take ETC any more, sadly |
| 03:49.28 | Tekkub | so we made everyone wait for our asses to walk back up :) |
| 03:49.30 | Thunder_Child | i didnt watch it at all |
| 03:49.35 | Thunder_Child | didnt care to |
| 03:50.02 | Tekkub | ETC killed all my fantasies about Samwise, I should have never stayed for it |
| 03:50.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: what version of eclipse are you using? |
| 03:50.50 | Tekkub | it was like when you have that one porn star you really love... and then you see him in a video and he talks and you realize he's a flaming homo... and it just kills it |
| 03:51.15 | Thunder_Child | an earlier text would have been nice... oh well |
| 03:51.58 | Iriel | Err, one of the most recent 2, not sure which |
| 03:52.15 | Tekkub | TC, I think some texting was a bit delayed honestly |
| 03:52.26 | Tekkub | when I got the text, most of them were already up there |
| 03:52.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Just getting weird errors with said checkstyle plugin... I can't customize any of the rules |
| 03:52.59 | Thunder_Child | Tekkub, i got it @ 8:43 |
| 03:53.05 | Tekkub | as did I |
| 03:53.15 | Tekkub | *shrug* |
| 03:53.24 | Tekkub | you were the furry cute one right TC? |
| 03:53.28 | Thunder_Child | i was already on the freeway home |
| 03:53.32 | Tekkub | WTB labeled photos |
| 03:53.53 | Thunder_Child | Tekkub, furry and cute coming from you makes me scared |
| 03:54.22 | Thunder_Child | and we will label the photos...speaking of which, who took the group photo.... Iriel? |
| 03:54.29 | Tekkub | you should be, and Kirkburn shouldn't've been damnit! |
| 03:54.34 | Tekkub | that still bothers me |
| 03:54.48 | Tekkub | Iriel and like 12 other cameras |
| 03:56.01 | Thunder_Child | well i am starting to set up http://blizzcon.norganna.org/main.php/v/blizzcon2008/ ping Esamynn|Away for an account to up photos |
| 03:56.38 | Sixen | Oh, heh, I found out why Cairenn was gone for those few hours... |
| 03:56.44 | Sixen | She fell asleep after her interview, lawl. |
| 03:57.05 | Tekkub | yea she didn't feel good |
| 03:57.10 | Sixen | Mmmm, :(. |
| 03:57.47 | Tekkub | you know what would kick ass for next year's UI panel? |
| 03:57.50 | Sixen | ME? |
| 03:57.53 | Sixen | LO |
| 03:57.53 | Sixen | :P* |
| 03:58.02 | Tekkub | drag us all up on stage at the end and point out who's who |
| 03:58.09 | Thunder_Child | no...not really |
| 03:58.11 | Sixen | win |
| 03:58.19 | Sixen | somoene post up those group pics, I wanna grab one :( |
| 03:58.25 | ScytheBlade1 | They're up |
| 03:58.28 | Sixen | My dad's camera was outta batteries, I /facepalmed. |
| 03:58.32 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.iriel.org/wow/images/Blizzcon2008UIGroup.jpg |
| 03:59.06 | Sixen | Oh... Thanks sbo, =D. |
| 03:59.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Thank Iriel |
| 03:59.17 | batrick | is that all the UI folks? |
| 03:59.25 | ScytheBlade1 | All who showed up for the picture |
| 03:59.31 | Thunder_Child | batbot, most |
| 03:59.34 | Thunder_Child | .... |
| 03:59.38 | batrick | blizz people + UI communitity? |
| 03:59.47 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 03:59.48 | batrick | which one is shirik |
| 03:59.51 | batrick | lol |
| 04:00.02 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10971913067&sid=1 |
| 04:00.07 | ScytheBlade1 | batrick: Sixen: ^ |
| 04:00.08 | Thunder_Child | above and to the right of iriel |
| 04:00.20 | batrick | i dont know which one is iriel rofl |
| 04:00.21 | Thunder_Child | just under cog |
| 04:00.26 | Tekkub | back row... Kealten, Duman? Miller <Rohon's Minion> Rohon <Tekkub's Mount> Tekkub, uhm... Shirik? Cog, Cog's super chatty wife (never got her name)... Esa? Slow Ken |
| 04:00.26 | batrick | but ill read the thread |
| 04:00.29 | Thunder_Child | just under the guy in the ! hat |
| 04:00.34 | Sixen | oh cool |
| 04:00.39 | Tekkub | I suck at names so much, that's why I'm glad we had the shirts |
| 04:00.46 | Sixen | Iriel is sitting between me and alestane. |
| 04:01.02 | Tekkub | I never expected Iriel to have a cute accent either |
| 04:01.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Wait, accent? =] |
| 04:01.36 | Sixen | Hahahaha, english? accent. |
| 04:01.45 | Tekkub | slight brit accent I think |
| 04:01.49 | Iriel | Yes, english |
| 04:01.52 | Iriel | (much abused) |
| 04:01.58 | Sixen | :P |
| 04:02.00 | ScytheBlade1 | I was hoping for Austrailian or something |
| 04:02.12 | Tekkub | no, no aussies there that I saw (heard) |
| 04:02.24 | ScytheBlade1 | You would have known if bleeter was there |
| 04:02.40 | Tekkub | he'd wander around bleeting at people? |
| 04:02.45 | ScytheBlade1 | That's just a guess but I stand by it ;) |
| 04:02.52 | batrick | whoa that's shirik |
| 04:03.10 | Dewin | Bah... I tried something and it didn't work so I reverted my code and now it's broken in a way it wasn't before I reverted. |
| 04:03.38 | Tekkub | KD3 was kinda cute too |
| 04:03.45 | Sixen | er |
| 04:03.59 | Tekkub | right behind Cair |
| 04:04.02 | Sixen | lawl |
| 04:04.21 | Tekkub | Dolby's just like Kael, needs a beard |
| 04:04.26 | Thunder_Child | i'm labeling |
| 04:04.29 | Thunder_Child | names |
| 04:04.35 | Thunder_Child | be done soon |
| 04:04.41 | Tekkub | I was hinestly expecting Dolby to be a scrawny short nerd |
| 04:04.59 | Tekkub | TC, make sure you get the titles for Rohon and Miller |
| 04:05.10 | Thunder_Child | Tekkub, huh...some people i dont know |
| 04:05.14 | ScytheBlade1 | ~onjoin #wowuidev kd3 <Tekkub> KD3 was kinda cute too |
| 04:05.14 | purl | ok, ScytheBlade1 |
| 04:05.17 | ScytheBlade1 | He'll enjoy that ;) |
| 04:05.26 | sacarasc | hehe |
| 04:05.33 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
| 04:05.44 | Tekkub | TC, back row.. Miller <Rohon's Minion> Rohon <Tekkub's Mount> Tekkub |
| 04:06.01 | Thunder_Child | not gonan happen |
| 04:06.07 | Tekkub | why not? |
| 04:06.18 | Thunder_Child | i am not dooing anything fancy |
| 04:06.20 | Tekkub | noone knows them cause they don't do addons |
| 04:06.22 | Thunder_Child | this is just for ID |
| 04:06.27 | Tekkub | exactly |
| 04:07.44 | Sixen | lol |
| 04:07.50 | Sixen | I think KD3 hit up Disney |
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| 04:11.04 | batrick | so a raid of alliance just attacked UC, sylvanas schooled them |
| 04:11.10 | batrick | was pretty fun to watch on my alt |
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| 04:11.46 | Wobin | wow, that's what Shirik looks like? =) |
| 04:12.12 | NightHawkTheSane | dude, like 4 people have said that, or something :p |
| 04:12.24 | sacarasc | funny that almost all the attention in this channel is about Shirik |
| 04:12.29 | NightHawkTheSane | poor shirik |
| 04:12.35 | batrick | shirik is fun to pick on :) |
| 04:12.36 | Wobin | He comes across as much bigger in IRC =P |
| 04:12.47 | batrick | i thought cogwheel would be gnome sized irl |
| 04:12.56 | batrick | s/thought/hoped/ |
| 04:13.06 | batrick | turns out he's the tallest one there |
| 04:13.32 | Wobin | Most of my really tall friends play gnomes |
| 04:13.48 | Wobin | and tauren/draenei for the short ones |
| 04:16.12 | Dewin | Is there a way to attach frames such that they are aligned along an imaginary line that runs through the center of them all instead of along the top or bottom? |
| 04:16.24 | Dewin | Since every *other* way I'm trying to get this stuff to line up is failing horribly. |
| 04:16.31 | Wobin | Dewin: not with the standard anchors |
| 04:16.56 | Arrowmaster | yes there is |
| 04:17.07 | Thunder_Child | http://www.thunder-child.net/Misc/Blizzcon2008UIGroupLabeled.jpg quicky job |
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| 04:17.42 | Wobin | will left and right deal with that? |
| 04:17.46 | Dewin | you missed one |
| 04:17.52 | Thunder_Child | and some names will be spelled wrong |
| 04:17.55 | Thunder_Child | i know |
| 04:17.59 | Thunder_Child | dont know who he is |
| 04:18.04 | Arrowmaster | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Region/SetPoint |
| 04:18.05 | Dewin | Oh. the mystery persion. |
| 04:18.06 | Dewin | person* |
| 04:18.16 | Thunder_Child | ya, Cairenn would prolly know |
| 04:18.22 | Thunder_Child | or lope |
| 04:18.29 | Arrowmaster | you can use things like TOP, BOTTEM, CENTER as realitve points |
| 04:18.33 | Dewin | SetPoint doesn't as far as I can tell I thought. |
| 04:18.43 | Arrowmaster | yes it does |
| 04:19.07 | Wobin | Dewin: try with just LEFT and RIGHT |
| 04:19.21 | Wobin | CENTER won't really help if you don't want them overlapped |
| 04:19.26 | Dewin | Wobin: LEFT and RIGHT *just* effects x position, does not affect y |
| 04:19.49 | Wobin | See, that's what I thought |
| 04:20.01 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 04:20.35 | Dewin | Then the docs I saw were wrong... |
| 04:20.51 | Arrowmaster | LEFT and RIGHT are the possitions exactly between TOPLEFT and BOTTOMLEFT, and TOPRIGHT and BOTTOMRIGHT |
| 04:21.02 | Dewin | ohh? Hmm. |
| 04:21.07 | Dewin | well I'll try it I guess |
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| 04:21.14 | Wobin | can't hurt =P |
| 04:21.26 | Dewin | Right now they're all 'supposedly' attached bottomleft to bottomright, but it doesn't look at ALL like that in game |
| 04:21.50 | WillyPC | what cmd i can use to to log my chat windows (system messages), i dont find which chat type for SendChatMessage() |
| 04:22.20 | Dewin | that actually does work, and it's "sane" now (woo)... thanks |
| 04:22.23 | Thunder_Child | ok, mystery name fixed http://www.thunder-child.net/Misc/Blizzcon2008UIGroupLabeled.jpg |
| 04:23.17 | Wobin | Galadri, eh? |
| 04:23.29 | Dewin | Looks like I'd blend in nicely. Must conjure money and go to blizzcon next year :) |
| 04:23.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Dewin: indeed |
| 04:23.46 | Dewin | Slouken looks almost exactly like one of my friends, except my friend doesn't have the facial hair. |
| 04:23.51 | Thunder_Child | Wobin, seems to be Qzot's son |
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| 04:24.22 | Dewin | at least, in that picture he does. |
| 04:24.41 | Thunder_Child | i think i managed to stay out of all the pictures this year |
| 04:24.43 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: I think Seerah has an h |
| 04:25.12 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, ya, i did mention some might be spelled wrong |
| 04:25.23 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, like peppys and kaelten |
| 04:25.38 | Thunder_Child | it's was just a quicky, if we get a better copy i'll make it pretty |
| 04:25.53 | Thunder_Child | if not...i'll make it look better anyway |
| 04:26.12 | Wobin | aha |
| 04:26.22 | Wobin | Now I know why I keep thinking Shirik should be bigger |
| 04:26.24 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: Oh Yeah? http://www.iriel.org/wow/images/Blizzcon2008OhYeah.jpg |
| 04:26.34 | Wobin | I'm associating his nick with another I know named Shrike |
| 04:26.48 | Tekkub | Thunder_Child, grrrrRAWR! |
| 04:26.49 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, bastard...dinner? |
| 04:27.03 | Iriel | Yeah, across the room, while you were talking to cair |
| 04:27.16 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, that was just before she showed me her thong |
| 04:27.23 | ScytheBlade1 | o_o |
| 04:27.35 | Iriel | THAT explains the expression on the next shot! |
| 04:27.36 | Wobin | I read her shirt as saying "Poking the UI/Addon community since..." |
| 04:27.51 | Wobin | (or is it Porking?) |
| 04:27.54 | Thunder_Child | thats what i get for making certian comments |
| 04:28.02 | Thunder_Child | i will never ever do it again |
| 04:28.04 | Thunder_Child | in person |
| 04:28.05 | Iriel | Sleep time for me.. night all |
| 04:28.08 | Thunder_Child | night Iriel |
| 04:28.09 | Tekkub | Porning |
| 04:28.10 | ScytheBlade1 | I totally want a picture of said shot |
| 04:28.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Aww |
| 04:28.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Night |
| 04:28.16 | Arrowmaster | agreed |
| 04:28.19 | Arrowmaster | next shot! |
| 04:28.57 | Iriel | heh no, never annoy (too much) someone who also has (or for that matter, may later get) a camera with high resolution and a long lens |
| 04:29.06 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 04:29.07 | Tekkub | Seerah has an 'h' in it I thought? |
| 04:29.13 | ScytheBlade1 | She does, yes |
| 04:29.23 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, i meant saying something to Cairenn |
| 04:29.29 | Thunder_Child | that scared me |
| 04:29.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub: ewelcome to 3 minutes ago |
| 04:29.32 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: Oh 8-) |
| 04:29.39 | Thunder_Child | Tekkub, see Iriel's comment |
| 04:29.44 | Thunder_Child | "21:24.43      @Iriel: Thunder_Child: I think Seerah has an h" |
| 04:29.49 | Tekkub | pfft, fuck scrolling |
| 04:29.56 | Thunder_Child | OLD NEWS IS OLD! |
| 04:30.05 | Tekkub | CUTE TC IS CUTE |
| 04:30.57 | Arrowmaster | you people need to remember to always shave your beards off before going anywhere that Tekkub is going to be at |
| 04:31.40 | Wobin | Yeah, then Tek will spend his time imagining a beard on you |
| 04:31.43 | Wobin | and not mentally undressing you |
| 04:31.45 | Thunder_Child | i was thinking about tidying up but got lazy |
| 04:31.59 | Arrowmaster | rofl |
| 04:35.43 | Wobin | hehe, only Seerah and Lope are wearing anything but black |
| 04:35.55 | Wobin | Although Iriel has a blue overshirt at least |
| 04:35.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Duman |
| 04:36.01 | NightHawkTheSane | emo geeks are emo.. :p |
| 04:36.02 | Thunder_Child | dobly |
| 04:36.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Back-left |
| 04:36.15 | Wobin | oh white shirt |
| 04:36.30 | Wobin | It's a vendor shirt though |
| 04:36.33 | Wobin | that doesn't count =P |
| 04:36.52 | Arrowmaster | is that a facebook tshirt? |
| 04:37.05 | Wobin | looks that way =) |
| 04:37.09 | Arrowmaster | .... |
| 04:37.12 | ScytheBlade1 | It is |
| 04:37.31 | Thunder_Child | cant be any worse than all the blizz crap people are wearing |
| 04:37.45 | NightHawkTheSane | sure it can |
| 04:37.47 | NightHawkTheSane | it's facebook |
| 04:37.54 | Thunder_Child | i mean, how much of a geek do you have to be to wear blizzard products |
| 04:38.04 | Tekkub | not emo, most of us were wearing MMOUI shirts :P |
| 04:38.12 | Thunder_Child | someof us were not offered one |
| 04:38.13 | Wobin | eMMOUI |
| 04:38.18 | Thunder_Child | some of* |
| 04:38.33 | Thunder_Child | though it is sad that blizz didnt give a shirt this year |
| 04:40.39 | Tekkub | TC, everyone at the UI panel got one:P |
| 04:41.46 | Thunder_Child | Tekkub, nope |
| 04:41.52 | Thunder_Child | Tekkub, i was there |
| 04:42.03 | Tekkub | well then you just fail at tshirt whoring |
| 04:42.09 | Thunder_Child | though i figured since i dont contribute i dont get one, |
| 04:42.16 | Thunder_Child | Tekkub /agreed |
| 04:42.20 | Tekkub | you contribute cuteness |
| 04:42.39 | NightHawkTheSane | hahaha |
| 04:45.03 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Tekkub |
| 04:45.03 | purl | teaches Tekkub that M$ Access is a database. No, really, a database. A real live multi-user... well, ok, not multi-user, but a database. Yeah, that sounds right. |
| 04:45.39 | Dewin | M$ Access actually has a few uses |
| 04:45.54 | Dewin | but |
| 04:45.55 | Thunder_Child | s/ has a few/has few/ |
| 04:45.56 | NightHawkTheSane | like teaching people what is NOT a database. |
| 04:45.57 | Dewin | it does suck |
| 04:46.08 | Dewin | real men use postgres. |
| 04:46.43 | Thunder_Child | Real men use women |
| 04:47.03 | Wobin | I've never noticed them making very good databases |
| 04:47.12 | Wobin | their indexing is so confusing |
| 04:47.19 | Wobin | and normalisation? pft |
| 04:47.47 | NightHawkTheSane | and i wouldn't call them multi-user in the slightest |
| 04:48.04 | Thunder_Child | you need to learn how to use one better then |
| 04:48.09 | Wobin | depends on socket usage |
| 04:48.51 | Wobin | Thunder_Child: Just cause you screw around a bit with a databsae, doesn't make it a -good- database =P |
| 04:49.21 | NightHawkTheSane | ~Wobin++ |
| 04:49.25 | Thunder_Child | Wobin, you need to learn the ins and outs of your db |
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| 04:49.54 | Wobin | I hope you've been using a data access layer |
| 04:54.15 | Thunder_Child | Wobin, never, it's to much of a hassle |
| 04:54.34 | ScytheBlade1 | xkcd is AWESOME. |
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| 04:55.29 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: indeed |
| 04:55.35 | Dewin | <3 xkcd |
| 04:56.33 | Amarande | DId you see the one with the bra? :) |
| 04:56.55 | Wobin | Amarande: with the rubicks cube? |
| 04:57.07 | NightHawkTheSane | "don't worry, i can do it in under a minute" |
| 04:57.41 | Dewin | the fact I have to wrap this into a function is highly annoying: groupPanel:SetScript("OnUpdate", function(self) self:SetScript("OnUpdate", nil); groupPanel:SetHeight(16 + groupHeaderLabel:GetTop() - groupPanelRenameButton:GetBottom()) end) |
| 04:58.09 | Dewin | Apparently frames don't have a bottom() even when they're clearly attached to a frame that is attached. |
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| 05:04.24 | Tekkub | the brainpain is coming back |
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| 05:05.03 | Dewin | that's a nice catchy word for headache, I think I'll steal it. |
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| 05:50.40 | Amarande | GRRRRRRRRRRR |
| 05:50.57 | Amarande | figures that the one green hills of stranglethorn page I need is the one that's sold out in both the alliance and neutral AH's ... |
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| 06:03.46 | Syzgyn | Goddamn |
| 06:03.54 | Syzgyn | We do AQ40 for c'thun loot |
| 06:04.01 | Syzgyn | and one guy wins freaking 3 pieces |
| 06:04.34 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 |
| 06:04.47 | NightHawkTheSane | i can only assume you're doing it for the achievement credit. |
| 06:04.56 | NightHawkTheSane | which begs the question.. why LET one guy win 3 pieces? |
| 06:05.45 | Syzgyn | It was on group loot |
| 06:05.49 | Syzgyn | and he got lucky as hell |
| 06:05.59 | Syzgyn | but yea, for the achievement |
| 06:06.10 | Syzgyn | we're prolly gonna go back on tuesday while the servers are shit |
| 06:06.25 | NightHawkTheSane | also, grinding timbermaw rep makes me cry |
| 06:06.27 | Syzgyn | ^^ |
| 06:06.40 | NightHawkTheSane | and makes me either respect or mourn kd3 for doing it. |
| 06:07.05 | End | timbermaw wasn't as bad as I expected |
| 06:07.12 | ZorbaTHut | I'm not grinding squat until level 80 :P grinding right now just seems like a bad idea |
| 06:07.17 | End | that was..months ago when I did it |
| 06:07.28 | Syzgyn | at 0? |
| 06:07.30 | Syzgyn | 60* |
| 06:07.33 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: maybe, but i figure "what else am i going to do" |
| 06:07.34 | End | no |
| 06:07.38 | Syzgyn | ah |
| 06:07.39 | End | I did it at 70 |
| 06:07.42 | End | but it was months ago :P |
| 06:07.49 | Syzgyn | I dunno, I get 2-3 per kill in winterspring :( |
| 06:07.54 | End | before people go caught up in the achievement frenzy :P |
| 06:08.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Syzgyn: 2 rep per kill if the mobs are grey >< |
| 06:08.15 | Syzgyn | Yeah..... kinda bad |
| 06:08.18 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 06:08.20 | End | I got most of the rep via feathers/beads |
| 06:08.35 | End | about half way through honored I turned in all my feathers/beads and hit exalted |
| 06:08.38 | End | just like that |
| 06:08.38 | End | :P |
| 06:08.42 | NightHawkTheSane | with.. waht.. 12k mobs from neutral->honored? |
| 06:08.52 | Syzgyn | lol |
| 06:09.13 | End | there's a couple other rep sources I had to supplement with |
| 06:09.18 | |Jelly| | Is there a picture of the UI group with names?! |
| 06:09.24 | End | turned in some runecloth, and the totems |
| 06:09.30 | |Jelly| | ...and is Cairenn's name in red again? :P |
| 06:09.41 | End | but yeah, from neutral to mid-honored was all kills |
| 06:09.52 | NightHawkTheSane | |Jelly|: http://www.thunder-child.net/Misc/Blizzcon2008UIGroupLabeled.jpg |
| 06:10.01 | End | minus the 700 or so from other stuff |
| 06:10.41 | Corrodias | oh suuuuuuuuuuuure |
| 06:10.42 | |Jelly| | SHIRIK'S A BABY! |
| 06:10.47 | Corrodias | take a picture of the people who GOT TO GO |
| 06:11.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Corrodias: feel free to take a picture of yourself. |
| 06:11.28 | NightHawkTheSane | |Jelly|: ... why does everyone point out shirik in some manner >.> |
| 06:11.28 | Corrodias | how pitiful would that be :( |
| 06:11.31 | Shirik|zZz | omfg |
| 06:11.37 | Shirik|zZz | way too many pings while gone |
| 06:11.45 | |Jelly| | Because he doesn't look anything like we imagine him to be. |
| 06:11.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik|zZz: ill sum them up for you "OMG, THATS SHIRIK?!?" |
| 06:11.54 | |Jelly| | Seekritly, I figured he was really a dwarf. |
| 06:11.58 | Corrodias | i picture shirik as a zerg |
| 06:12.00 | Shirik | :( |
| 06:12.09 | Shirik | Do I really look that young? |
| 06:12.09 | Corrodias | this... is not a zerg. |
| 06:12.15 | Shirik | and I'm over 6 feet |Jelly|... |
| 06:12.20 | End | huh, is Cairenn wearing a chinese edition WoW shirt or something? |
| 06:12.30 | NightHawkTheSane | you look young, yes, but not younger than you are. |
| 06:12.31 | |Jelly| | So stop slouching! |
| 06:12.42 | NightHawkTheSane | (you're what.. ~20ish?) |
| 06:12.57 | Shirik | hey that picture didn't turn out too bad |
| 06:12.59 | Shirik | 21 |
| 06:13.01 | Corrodias | Kirkburn has a sexy exotic thing going on. or white trash. |
| 06:13.03 | |Jelly| | Unless you, like me, are tall in the legs but when sitting, are nothing very "tall" |
| 06:13.04 | Shirik | my hair's a mess |
| 06:13.09 | Corrodias | i'm not sure i could tell the difference. |
| 06:13.33 | Shirik | I also like how Thunder_Child misspelled Kaelten's name |
| 06:13.40 | Shirik | and Seerah's |
| 06:13.57 | Shirik | and Esamynn's |
| 06:13.58 | End | Thunder_Child fails. :) |
| 06:13.59 | Shirik | lol |
| 06:14.04 | Corrodias | we should make fun of him now |
| 06:14.07 | Thunder_Child | yes Shirik, i bloody well know |
| 06:14.09 | Shirik | and guillotine |
| 06:14.11 | Shirik | omg |
| 06:14.13 | End | Thunder_Child still doesn't know how to play. |
| 06:14.14 | Thunder_Child | and screw the rest of you |
| 06:14.17 | Shirik | <3 Thunder_Child |
| 06:14.20 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah he misseplled a bunch of names |
| 06:14.23 | NightHawkTheSane | misspelled. |
| 06:14.32 | Corrodias | irony~ |
| 06:14.34 | Thunder_Child | but at least i pointed that i did |
| 06:14.37 | |Jelly| | http://a265.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/21/l_e7c4a59a254e64289f9bdfa333e30f68.jpg <-- Me. If I had a better picture, I'd PS myself in there. |
| 06:14.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Corrodias: shut up ;) |
| 06:14.54 | Corrodias | 9_9 |
| 06:15.00 | Shirik | and yes, End, Cairenn and Seerah were too cool for us and didn't want to wear the mmoi staff shirt for the picture :( |
| 06:15.02 | Thunder_Child | |Jelly|, thanks for the crotch shot we didnt want |
| 06:15.21 | Corrodias | (i wanted it) ._. |
| 06:15.22 | |Jelly| | But you didn't expressly say you /didn't/ want one. |
| 06:15.33 | Thunder_Child | it was implied |
| 06:15.46 | Thunder_Child | actually, Tekkub will prolly like it |
| 06:15.48 | |Jelly| | No it wasn't, since a picture of myself was never requested. SO THERE! |
| 06:16.00 | Shirik | |Jelly| is coming next time, yes? |
| 06:16.01 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, im sure Tekkub will think you're cute |
| 06:16.07 | Tekkub | whonow? |
| 06:16.10 | |Jelly| | If Jelly can actually buy a picture, yeah. |
| 06:16.18 | |Jelly| | and by picture, I TOTALLY mean ticket. |
| 06:16.20 | Shirik | Tekkub felt lonely during blizzcon :( |
| 06:16.29 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, hardly |
| 06:16.33 | Thunder_Child | he had a mount with him |
| 06:16.44 | Tekkub | Shirik, why you afraid of me, you not even fuzzy |
| 06:16.44 | |Jelly| | Is TC in that picture? |
| 06:16.51 | Shirik | And for the record Tekkub, the only reason I didn't want to be near you is because I thought you were about to kill Kirkburn, and I didn't want to get in between you two >< |
| 06:16.54 | |Jelly| | CAUSE IF SO, WHY ISN'T HE LABELED AS TC?!?! |
| 06:16.57 | Shirik | <3 you! |
| 06:16.59 | Thunder_Child | |Jelly|, no, i didnt get the txt till after i left |
| 06:17.02 | Thunder_Child | :( |
| 06:17.10 | Tekkub | no Cap'n was just being odd |
| 06:17.22 | Tekkub | I think he thought I was gonna molest him or something |
| 06:17.28 | Shirik | haha |
| 06:17.28 | Tekkub | and Trey was more likely to do that |
| 06:17.30 | Thunder_Child | you should have |
| 06:17.52 | Tekkub | Kirk's accent was cute, but he ain't my type at all |
| 06:18.09 | NightHawkTheSane | not fuzzy enough? |
| 06:18.19 | Tekkub | nah, and small |
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| 06:18.35 | Tekkub | I like em bigger than me (but not too much bigger) |
| 06:19.37 | Shirik | omg ads |
| 06:19.43 | Shirik | must log in |
| 06:20.17 | |Jelly| | Oh! So my /in 600 /quit "macro" worked! lol |
| 06:21.32 | Sixen | Tekkub should've felt lonely. |
| 06:21.39 | Sixen | He made us wait cause he was walking from his hotel : |
| 06:21.40 | Sixen | :9 |
| 06:21.47 | Tekkub | :P |
| 06:21.53 | Tekkub | that was NOT my fault |
| 06:21.54 | Sixen | <3 |
| 06:22.01 | Shirik | |Jelly|: I can make you a /in 600 /crash macro if you want |
| 06:22.02 | Tekkub | you try traveling with two flighty homos |
| 06:22.04 | Shirik | it's actually pretty cool |
| 06:22.15 | Shirik | Except it's not really 600 |
| 06:22.20 | Shirik | it's just whenever Lua feels like crashing |
| 06:22.26 | Shirik | I haven't quite figured out how it determines when to crash |
| 06:23.05 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, when you least want it to |
| 06:23.07 | Wobin | if(name == "Shirik") then Crash() end |
| 06:23.34 | Shirik | so my goodie bag totally didn't have an authenticator |
| 06:23.39 | Sixen | lol! nowai |
| 06:23.39 | Shirik | I'm trying to figure out if that's because I already had one |
| 06:23.56 | Sixen | Can't be, my dad got one and he doesn't even have a WoW account. |
| 06:24.27 | Wobin | "Authenticator (Unique)" |
| 06:24.37 | Shirik | Well point is when I was getting set up for my ticket they asked for my WoW character/server so I wonder if looked it up |
| 06:24.46 | Shirik | the fact that your dad doesn'th ave a wow account supports that theory |
| 06:24.52 | Sixen | hm |
| 06:24.59 | Sixen | I'll ask around. |
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| 06:25.12 | Wobin | "Hm, He doesn't look anything like what we thought Shirik would loook like, we'd better not give him an authenticator" |
| 06:25.18 | Shirik | :( |
| 06:25.32 | |Jelly| | <3 |
| 06:25.48 | Wobin | Of course, my mental image of Shirik was affected by the nominative association with another american I know with the username "Shrike" |
| 06:25.49 | Tekkub | I fucking BOUGHT an authenticator like a week ago |
| 06:25.56 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, i has 2 |
| 06:25.56 | Shirik | hahaha |
| 06:25.58 | Shirik | hahahahaha |
| 06:25.59 | Wobin | So I thought you were like 6"5 and fat |
| 06:26.07 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn decided to give me one |
| 06:26.09 | Shirik | I told you guys I was hyperthyroid no? |
| 06:26.10 | End | That's right |
| 06:26.13 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Cairenn |
| 06:26.13 | purl | stamps Cairenn on the forehead with the official Troll marker |
| 06:26.15 | End | Shirik: fatty |
| 06:26.16 | Shirik | I can eat anything I want and I won't go fat |
| 06:26.24 | Tekkub | I hate people like you |
| 06:26.27 | Thunder_Child | can i hate you now Shirik? |
| 06:26.30 | Shirik | :D |
| 06:26.43 | Shirik | Were you at IHOP with us? |
| 06:26.48 | Tekkub | but then, we all know I like em a little chubby |
| 06:26.49 | End | I forgot to eat sometimes, so I don't go fat, does that count? |
| 06:26.50 | Duman | unf |
| 06:27.00 | Duman | open bar = omgbbq |
| 06:27.10 | Shirik | omg where is mount person |
| 06:27.15 | NightHawkTheSane | End: yes! (or at least, i think so :p) |
| 06:28.23 | MentalPower|ZZzz | Thunder_Child: is there a version without labels? |
| 06:28.29 | Thunder_Child | MentalPower|ZZzz, yes |
| 06:29.00 | Thunder_Child | MentalPower|ZZzz, http://www.iriel.org/wow/images/Blizzcon2008UIGroup.jpg |
| 06:29.55 | MentalPower|ZZzz | I wonder when Iriel and Esamynn will post their photos in http://blizzcon.norganna.org/main.php/v/blizzcon2008/ :) |
| 06:30.19 | Thunder_Child | as soon as they get around to it...i'm still setting up categories |
| 06:30.21 | Esamynn | MentalPower|ZZzz: when I get home :P |
| 06:30.23 | Esamynn | also, don't pretend to be sleeping if you aren't :P |
| 06:30.33 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: want me to do that? |
| 06:30.39 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, sure |
| 06:30.40 | Shirik | oh hi Esamynn |
| 06:30.45 | MentalPower|ZZzz | y, Cairenn does it all the time :P |
| 06:30.50 | Shirik | did you see Thunder_Child's picture, Esamynn? |
| 06:31.06 | Thunder_Child | but we all know Cairenn doesnt sellp regardless of what name she has |
| 06:31.21 | MentalPower|ZZzz | granted |
| 06:31.31 | Thunder_Child | sleep* |
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| 06:31.41 | Shirik | also, why am I not allowed to post my photos, MentalPower|ZZzz :( |
| 06:31.50 | Thunder_Child | you need an account |
| 06:31.59 | Shirik | ^^ |
| 06:32.01 | Thunder_Child | you have them developed already? |
| 06:32.12 | Shirik | hahahaha |
| 06:32.13 | Thunder_Child | oh non digital user |
| 06:32.14 | Esamynn | Shirik: I can solve the, if I can remember my password ;) |
| 06:32.21 | Shirik | I don't even know where to develop them |
| 06:32.29 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Shiibot |
| 06:32.29 | purl | hits Shiibot with an anvil and laughs with a contralto voice ... Haha Ha HA Ha |
| 06:32.30 | NightHawkTheSane | ... wait, people use non digital cameras still? ;) |
| 06:32.31 | Thunder_Child | DAMIT |
| 06:32.34 | Shirik | I don't know of any places around here that I can do it |
| 06:32.36 | NightHawkTheSane | ~fail Thunder_Child |
| 06:32.37 | purl | Thunder_Child, you Fail! |
| 06:32.37 | MentalPower|ZZzz | ~lart Esamynn |
| 06:32.37 | purl | acting on orders from an unspecified client drags Esamynn into court suing for $200 million |
| 06:32.41 | Thunder_Child | change the name already Shiibot |
| 06:32.41 | Shirik | so... |
| 06:32.44 | Thunder_Child | AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 06:32.47 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 06:32.49 | Shirik | hahahahahaha |
| 06:32.51 | Shirik | ~fail Thunder_Child |
| 06:32.52 | purl | Thunder_Child, you Fail! |
| 06:32.53 | Esamynn | MentalPower|ZZzz: :P |
| 06:32.53 | Shirik | anyway |
| 06:32.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: target, wal-mart, or similar places usually will |
| 06:32.56 | Shirik | no |
| 06:33.02 | Shirik | target and walmart will both screw it up |
| 06:33.04 | Shirik | as will cvs |
| 06:33.15 | NightHawkTheSane | well, if you're going to be picky.. |
| 06:33.19 | NightHawkTheSane | i suggest learning to do it yourself |
| 06:33.26 | Shirik | I can do it myself |
| 06:33.30 | Shirik | except all the chemicals are in VA |
| 06:33.41 | NightHawkTheSane | so buy more? |
| 06:33.47 | Shirik | I'm only being picky because cvs, walmart, target, etc., don't have the capability to process this film |
| 06:33.48 | Thunder_Child | they are expensive |
| 06:34.12 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, where are you now? |
| 06:34.17 | Shirik | back home, FL |
| 06:34.30 | NightHawkTheSane | so... you took pictures with a camera using film that you are unable to develop yourself and don't know WHERE you can develop it? |
| 06:34.33 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, try a local school photography department |
| 06:34.35 | MentalPower|ZZzz | what kind of film? |
| 06:34.52 | Shirik | it's C-41 but it needs push processing |
| 06:35.06 | Amarande | Shirik: www.bhphotovideo.com |
| 06:35.10 | Shirik | I know of a place that can develop it at home, NightHawkTheSane |
| 06:35.14 | Amarande | that's where I'd go |
| 06:36.05 | Tekkub | fuh... eelm? |
| 06:36.09 | Shirik | also, NightHawkTheSane, C-41 processing is not fun btw |
| 06:36.17 | Shirik | I've done it before. Trying to keep the temperatures right is such a pita |
| 06:36.21 | Shirik | black and white is so much easier |
| 06:36.38 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: making me setup the albums with only one screen, I hates you :P |
| 06:36.42 | Shirik | Yes film!!! |
| 06:36.48 | Shirik | Film is awesome Tekkub |
| 06:36.49 | MentalPower|ZZzz | erm... why not digital? |
| 06:36.49 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, you offered |
| 06:36.57 | Esamynn | lol |
| 06:37.01 | Shirik | There are several reasons for that MentalPower|ZZzz |
| 06:37.09 | Thunder_Child | MentalPower|ZZzz, because he is an idiot |
| 06:37.14 | Thunder_Child | ~poke Shirik |
| 06:37.15 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Shirik, pokes Shirik repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 06:37.22 | Shirik | hey |
| 06:37.24 | Shirik | you got the name right |
| 06:37.28 | Esamynn | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 06:37.28 | purl | executes killall -HUP Thunder_Child |
| 06:37.54 | Thunder_Child | i told you, a poke a day till you get a digital |
| 06:38.29 | Shirik | I'm still thinking about that 50D |
| 06:38.35 | Shirik | but I need to resolve my credit card first |
| 06:38.49 | Thunder_Child | if you have full frame lenses i would suggest the 5D |
| 06:39.03 | Tekkub | BTW, whichever one of you dickheads got me sick, I hate you |
| 06:39.20 | Esamynn | lol |
| 06:39.38 | Esamynn | more likely someone on the plane :P |
| 06:39.53 | MentalPower|ZZzz | Tekkub: why does it have to be someone in here and not someone else from the con? :P |
| 06:40.02 | Tekkub | nah it happened friday I think, cause sat I didn't feel too good |
| 06:40.09 | Tekkub | today the chills are settin in |
| 06:40.20 | Tekkub | MentalPower|ZZzz, it was yOU |
| 06:40.43 | MentalPower|ZZzz | I wasn't even there :P |
| 06:41.01 | Tekkub | YOU |
| 06:41.02 | Esamynn | yes, you were, you had changed a lot, but the badge said it was you :P |
| 06:43.11 | MentalPower|ZZzz | lol |
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| 06:43.17 | MentalPower|ZZzz | nice one Esamynn :) |
| 06:43.20 | Shirik | Tekkub: It probably was Cairenn :) |
| 06:43.24 | Shirik | She was sick yesterday |
| 06:43.29 | Shirik | how close did you get to her? |
| 06:43.37 | Tekkub | actually, it may have been |
| 06:43.48 | Tekkub | she kissed me fri |
| 06:43.55 | Esamynn | lol |
| 06:44.05 | Tekkub | and went to her room for a few hours sat |
| 06:44.09 | Shirik | o.o |
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| 06:44.26 | Tekkub | said she didn't feel good and was tired |
| 06:44.34 | Tekkub | so it could have been her |
| 06:44.38 | Thunder_Child | not to mention she didnt leave her hotel room untill after 11am |
| 06:44.43 | Thunder_Child | to come to the con |
| 06:44.48 | Shirik | well neither did I |
| 06:44.50 | Shirik | so........... |
| 06:44.53 | Tekkub | nor did I |
| 06:44.54 | Thunder_Child | fail |
| 06:45.05 | NightHawkTheSane | sounds like a conspiracy to me |
| 06:45.17 | Tekkub | I honestly didn't do a lot at the con, I wasn't willing to wait in lines |
| 06:45.19 | Shirik | mostly because Tem's alarm clock sucks and I was too lazy to get up after mine went off |
| 06:45.20 | Thunder_Child | though our server meeting was at 11 |
| 06:45.23 | Shirik | :D |
| 06:45.32 | Thunder_Child | which was a big reason we got there then |
| 06:45.49 | Tem | huh what? |
| 06:45.55 | Shirik | Saturday |
| 06:46.00 | Shirik | waking up at 11 |
| 06:46.11 | Tekkub | Tem was a total dissapointment |
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| 06:46.17 | Thunder_Child | Tekkub /agreed |
| 06:46.18 | Shirik | aw why :9 |
| 06:46.19 | Shirik | :( |
| 06:46.25 | Shirik | Tem was awesome |
| 06:46.28 | Tekkub | I don't know why I expected verbal sparing from him |
| 06:46.41 | Shirik | Well i'm kinda glad after I locked him out he didn't stab me in my sleep |
| 06:46.42 | Tekkub | oh yes, because he can be meaner than me on IRC |
| 06:46.53 | Duman | heh |
| 06:47.38 | Sixen | Duman, send me that pic of us/kd3 when you get a chance? |
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| 06:48.39 | Duman | sixen will do |
| 06:48.41 | Duman | I'm still in LA |
| 06:48.48 | Duman | I'll upload it somewhere when I get home |
| 06:48.53 | Duman | probably Thus or Fri |
| 06:49.04 | Shirik | did you go to disney? |
| 06:49.04 | Duman | <- At another conferenc |
| 06:49.08 | Duman | no |
| 06:49.14 | Duman | up in Downtown LA now |
| 06:49.20 | Duman | NANOG conference |
| 06:49.23 | Shirik | oh |
| 06:49.24 | Shirik | fun |
| 06:49.29 | Thunder_Child | heh Duman, you are about a 12 min drive from me |
| 06:49.32 | Corgan | I went to a hockey game ;D |
| 06:49.33 | Thunder_Child | 20* |
| 06:49.34 | Duman | (www.nanog.org) |
| 06:49.36 | Corgan | today |
| 06:49.39 | Shirik | yes I know nanog |
| 06:49.40 | Corgan | I wanted to go to disney land:( |
| 06:49.42 | Duman | ahh kewl |
| 06:49.59 | Thunder_Child | i want to go to defcon the next time it happens |
| 06:49.59 | Duman | I'm at the biltmore millennium hotel |
| 06:50.02 | End | wow, I fail at my own password |
| 06:50.05 | Duman | this place is crazy |
| 06:50.14 | Sixen | No worries. and cool, lol. |
| 06:50.30 | Sixen | I remember you were telling me about that, what is it? Just another Con? |
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| 06:50.53 | Duman | North American Network Engineering Group conference |
| 06:51.02 | Duman | basically everyone who runs the internet :) |
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| 06:51.20 | Sixen | I'm not hosting it. I own the internet. |
| 06:51.23 | Sixen | cwutididthar? |
| 06:51.25 | Duman | and I'm drunk as fuck from the open bar |
| 06:51.27 | End | isn't it supposed to be Network Operators? ;-p |
| 06:51.27 | Duman | haha |
| 06:51.31 | Sixen | :P |
| 06:51.32 | Duman | yes that |
| 06:51.34 | Duman | operatoros |
| 06:51.38 | Duman | like I said, drunk |
| 06:51.39 | End | same difference :P |
| 06:51.40 | Shirik | Dolby: you around? I need you to add a censor for me |
| 06:51.45 | Shirik | wrong channel........ |
| 06:51.48 | Duman | like 6 jack+coked and like 4 beers |
| 06:51.48 | Shirik | hi! |
| 06:51.52 | End | hi, Shirik |
| 06:51.56 | Sixen | Rofl, nice, =p. |
| 06:51.57 | End | ~hi |
| 06:51.57 | purl | hello, end |
| 06:52.00 | End | oops |
| 06:52.02 | Sixen | Anywya, got class in the morning, need to head to bed. |
| 06:52.02 | End | ~hi Shirik |
| 06:52.03 | purl | Many greetings, Shirik, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 06:52.05 | End | I fail at purl |
| 06:52.05 | Duman | heh |
| 06:52.10 | Sixen | Night guys~ |
| 06:52.13 | Duman | later sixen |
| 06:52.14 | End | ~night Sixen |
| 06:52.15 | purl | have a good night, Sixen |
| 06:52.28 | Amarande | The only Con I attend regularly is Dragon Con |
| 06:52.29 | Sixen | Duman, we'll have to post that pic for Maaven Soon(TM) |
| 06:52.37 | Amarande | and if you don't go to the Wheel of Time or Dark Fantasy tracks you probably don't really know me |
| 06:52.39 | Sixen | "DIZ IZ WUT U MIST!" |
| 06:52.47 | Duman | sixen :) |
| 06:52.51 | Sixen | :) |
| 06:53.00 | Duman | l8r |
| 06:53.24 | *** join/#wowuidev Doow (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/doow) |
| 06:54.37 | Tem | Tekkub, you didn't get any verbal sparring from me because you never caught me when I was pissy |
| 06:54.40 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: ok, most of the structure is there now |
| 06:54.48 | Esamynn | no panel albums up yet |
| 06:54.55 | Tekkub | ah, so if I really wanted it, I shoulda kicked you in the nuts |
| 06:54.57 | Tekkub | got it |
| 06:55.02 | Duman | haha |
| 06:55.05 | Tem | also, completly content Tem + feeling a week bit sick = not pissy |
| 06:55.15 | Tekkub | IT WAS YOU |
| 06:55.23 | Tekkub | I knew I never should have kissed you |
| 06:55.23 | Tem | meh |
| 06:55.31 | Tem | thank god that didn't happen |
| 06:55.36 | Duman | tem, I don't think I met/introduced myself to you @ the con.. who were you? |
| 06:55.38 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, ok |
| 06:55.39 | Tem | s/week/wee/ |
| 06:55.40 | Tekkub | don't worry, it wouldn't've :P |
| 06:55.43 | Duman | I guess I should check the picture |
| 06:55.51 | Tem | Duman, the tall one with blond hair |
| 06:55.55 | Tem | who wasn't Karl |
| 06:55.58 | Duman | ok, you were next to anduin |
| 06:56.02 | Tem | yeah |
| 06:56.04 | Tem | which were you? |
| 06:56.07 | Tekkub | Duman was kinda cute too |
| 06:56.09 | Duman | I had the facebook shrt on |
| 06:56.11 | Duman | shirt |
| 06:56.16 | Shirik | cute? |
| 06:56.18 | Tem | aaah, I remember you |
| 06:56.18 | Duman | heh |
| 06:56.21 | Thunder_Child | Tem, http://www.thunder-child.net/Misc/Blizzcon2008UIGroupLabeled.jpg |
| 06:56.22 | Tem | well |
| 06:56.27 | Tem | more accurately, I remember the shirt |
| 06:56.29 | Tekkub | yea it's the goatee that ddoes it |
| 06:56.30 | Tem | not so much you |
| 06:56.31 | Tem | >< |
| 06:56.53 | Tem | Thunder_Child, no name plates? |
| 06:57.03 | Duman | haha nice, T_C |
| 06:57.05 | Tekkub | he was lazy |
| 06:57.09 | Esamynn | no panel albums up yet:P |
| 06:57.10 | Thunder_Child | Tem, i will if i dont get a more infocus pic |
| 06:57.14 | Esamynn | I'm pretty sure |
| 06:57.21 | Tekkub | Roh and Miller need titles or noone will know who they is |
| 06:57.21 | Esamynn | oop' |
| 06:57.26 | Tem | I'm sure someone will hack together a good version |
| 06:57.28 | Esamynn | damnit, stupid arrow yets |
| 06:57.30 | Esamynn | keys |
| 06:57.40 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: Seerah has an H in it :P |
| 06:57.42 | Duman | yetis? |
| 06:57.44 | Tekkub | and cogswife needs a name :P |
| 06:57.45 | Esamynn | I'm prety sure |
| 06:57.48 | Tem | god I look retarded in that picture |
| 06:57.49 | Esamynn | pretty* |
| 06:57.50 | Shirik | it's Ms. Cogwheel |
| 06:57.51 | Thunder_Child | .... |
| 06:58.06 | Thunder_Child | ok, for the last time I KNOW I SPELLED THINGS WRONG!!! |
| 06:58.14 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: so fix it :P |
| 06:58.18 | Esamynn | or don't spell stuff wrong |
| 06:58.19 | Tekkub | She was nice, I liked her, but glayven she didn't stop talking all through dinner |
| 06:58.19 | Duman | heh |
| 06:58.22 | Thunder_Child | i didnt care, it's rough and dirty |
| 06:58.34 | Thunder_Child | if i get a better pic i will make it nice |
| 06:58.37 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: you fail, you spelled my name wrong |
| 06:58.39 | Thunder_Child | if i dont i will make this one nice |
| 06:58.52 | Esamynn | ~fail Thunder_Child |
| 06:58.53 | purl | Thunder_Child: FAIL! |
| 06:58.57 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, then get a name eaiser to spell |
| 06:59.02 | AnduinLothar | TC, you covered up my shirt of smiting |
| 06:59.07 | Esamynn | ~fail Thunder_Child rofl |
| 06:59.08 | purl | Thunder_Child rofl, you Fail! |
| 06:59.08 | AnduinLothar | QQ |
| 06:59.10 | Esamynn | oops |
| 06:59.12 | Esamynn | lol |
| 06:59.12 | Duman | SMITING |
| 06:59.18 | Esamynn | ROFL |
| 06:59.19 | Amarande | rough and dirty? where? we talking about a woman here? :) |
| 06:59.19 | Tekkub | poor AL |
| 06:59.26 | Shirik | p.s. Tekkub, we couldn't mention the shirts |
| 06:59.32 | Tekkub | Miller and Roh though AL was cute :P |
| 06:59.33 | Esamynn | ~gag Amarande |
| 06:59.33 | purl | ACTION takes away the voice of Amarande and, as an additional precaution, sews Amarande's mouth shut permanently... |
| 06:59.33 | Shirik | how can it be a surprise if you go around telling everyone |
| 06:59.41 | Thunder_Child | I HATE YOU ALL |
| 06:59.45 | Duman | fite |
| 06:59.49 | Tekkub | Shirik, I know |
| 06:59.49 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: fyi |
| 06:59.50 | Duman | poor T_C |
| 06:59.53 | Amarande | mrmmmmfffmmmmmfff. |
| 06:59.53 | Shirik | I just have to say this Thunder_Child |
| 07:00.03 | Shirik | If you had used film, you wouldn't have this problem because you wouldn't have the picture yet |
| 07:00.12 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: how much do you care about panel albums? ie. can I do them tomorrow when I have full keyboard? |
| 07:00.15 | Shirik | But since you went digital, you brought this upon yourself |
| 07:00.16 | Duman | I should drink less alcohol tomorrow night |
| 07:00.16 | Tekkub | poor TC, come here I'll give you a hug |
| 07:00.23 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, i dont |
| 07:00.26 | Esamynn | okie |
| 07:00.36 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, thats iriels pic taken by someone else |
| 07:00.40 | Thunder_Child | not mine |
| 07:00.48 | Shirik | oh so it's Iriel's fault then |
| 07:00.52 | Thunder_Child | Tekkub, thanks for the offer |
| 07:00.59 | Shirik | besides, my camera is an antique |
| 07:01.04 | Thunder_Child | no kidding |
| 07:01.05 | Shirik | the company doesn't even exist anymore |
| 07:01.09 | Shirik | not as a camera company at least |
| 07:01.13 | Tekkub | Zooty needs to log in so I can harass him a bit damnit |
| 07:01.13 | Thunder_Child | yes...because film went out |
| 07:01.26 | Duman | heh |
| 07:01.31 | Shirik | I think Zooty is mad at me :( |
| 07:01.43 | Tekkub | I think Zooty's gonna be mad at me :) |
| 07:01.57 | Duman | ruh roh |
| 07:01.58 | *** join/#wowuidev Wobin (n=Wobin@124-171-24-200.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 07:02.01 | Tekkub | or he might be highly amused |
| 07:02.11 | Shirik | what did you do to him |
| 07:02.11 | Tekkub | we'll see what happens |
| 07:02.14 | Tekkub | nothing! |
| 07:02.17 | Shirik | yeah |
| 07:02.20 | Shirik | I believe that |
| 07:02.25 | Tekkub | he said he wasn't afraid of me like Kirk and SLow Ken |
| 07:02.37 | Shirik | hahaha |
| 07:02.45 | Tekkub | so... I have to give it the good ol college try |
| 07:03.05 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, you have a lot of categories...do people really yake that many? |
| 07:03.09 | Thunder_Child | take* |
| 07:03.20 | Amarande | dangit, blizzcon has come and gone |
| 07:03.26 | Tekkub | are images besides the group one up yet? |
| 07:03.32 | Amarande | I should have told some of you to clonk the resident Quel'dorei trade channel troll over the head while he was there :P |
| 07:03.33 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: I copied what I used for last year, and I do expect more people to post this year |
| 07:03.37 | Thunder_Child | Tekkub, no, i am being lazy with mine |
| 07:03.41 | Duman | I'm sad I never met up w/ any of the QA peeps, ahh well |
| 07:04.01 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, eh, i guess i just dont take pics of things i know will be covered by professionals |
| 07:04.17 | Shirik | I'm fairly convinced the QA guys didn't want to come, Duman |
| 07:04.21 | Shirik | they were too scared of the populus |
| 07:04.33 | Amarande | Ah well. Said troll has been on my ignore list for a long while now. |
| 07:04.35 | Duman | heh |
| 07:04.41 | Esamynn | just post what you have, where ever it makes most sense, I reccomend using the Gallery Remote program, in some form |
| 07:04.45 | Amarande | Sadly, he's not the one who got the "Ignore deleted because the character no longer exists" message. |
| 07:04.45 | Duman | well, a few ppl had mentioned they had seen them - even Hortus |
| 07:04.52 | Duman | but nothing other than "I've seen them around" |
| 07:04.57 | Shirik | If I were them, I would wear a standard attendee badge and be like "What? I don't work for Blizzard. I don't even know what WoW is. I'm here for the pharmacy conference in the other hall..." |
| 07:05.05 | Duman | which was more frustrating than "nope, haven't seen them" |
| 07:05.11 | Duman | hahahah |
| 07:05.21 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, yes....with a blizzcon badge.... |
| 07:05.24 | Thunder_Child | dummy |
| 07:05.26 | Shirik | "I found this on the ground" |
| 07:05.34 | Thunder_Child | >.< |
| 07:05.38 | Amarande | Shirik: the QA guys are far too busy making sure we don't epicfail in approximately 36 hours |
| 07:05.43 | Shirik | yeah |
| 07:05.46 | Thunder_Child | patch? |
| 07:05.48 | Duman | "What convention is this? I heard there would be punch and pie" |
| 07:05.56 | Amarande | Thunder_Child: yes, patch is this week |
| 07:06.05 | Tekkub | BlitzCon? I don't like football |
| 07:06.08 | Amarande | where have you been living, out in the corner of Silithus? :) |
| 07:06.16 | Thunder_Child | Duman, no there was a kick in the nuts, a yell of "For the Horde" and running away |
| 07:06.19 | Duman | poor, neglected Silithus |
| 07:06.29 | Tem | Tekkub, you still disappointed that you didn't scare away zoot? |
| 07:06.29 | Duman | haha |
| 07:06.39 | Amarande | Duman: people had a problem with Silithus |
| 07:06.40 | Tekkub | "Sillythis" can't even make up for the suckiness |
| 07:06.48 | Amarande | there were far too many bugs for the zone to be playable |
| 07:06.51 | Thunder_Child | wow you people are mean |
| 07:06.56 | Tekkub | Tem, mildly, I have an idea how I might be able to |
| 07:07.01 | Tekkub | we'll see what happens |
| 07:07.12 | Tem | >< |
| 07:07.12 | Duman | hhe |
| 07:07.21 | Amarande | You know what irritates me the most about the trade channel troll on my main server, though? |
| 07:07.26 | Shirik | ok |
| 07:07.28 | Shirik | seriously |
| 07:07.34 | Shirik | (03:07:07) (batrick) I sware i thought you were white lol |
| 07:07.34 | Shirik | (03:07:13) (Shirik) I am? |
| 07:07.45 | Shirik | Do I look like asian or something? |
| 07:07.46 | Tem | you aren't? |
| 07:07.58 | Amarande | He actually has a WoW-playing gf. :| |
| 07:08.03 | batrick | rofl |
| 07:08.07 | Amarande | AND he got accepted into a top raiding guild on the server. |
| 07:08.09 | End | Shirik: You look like a black man to me! |
| 07:08.15 | Amarande | How the hell does a trade chat troll get such awesomeness coming to him? |
| 07:08.20 | Thunder_Child | Shirik isnt white |
| 07:08.24 | Amarande | Mind you, this guy seems to always be IN TRADE CHAT. |
| 07:08.41 | Tekkub | Shirik isn't white, white nerds are pale, almost alibno |
| 07:08.46 | Duman | ok, things are blurry |
| 07:08.47 | Amarande | Or at least he was when I put him on ignore. :| |
| 07:08.49 | Duman | means I must sleeps |
| 07:08.52 | Thunder_Child | this one girl at our server table inroduced herself as a tradechat whore |
| 07:08.53 | Duman | later ppl |
| 07:09.01 | Maldivia | morning |
| 07:09.06 | Tekkub | Moldy! |
| 07:09.14 | Thunder_Child | morning Maldivia |
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| 07:10.16 | Shirik | I guess I do look less white than everyone else :/ |
| 07:10.17 | *** join/#wowuidev CrazyMYKL (n=rumors@149.152.112.26) |
| 07:10.19 | Shirik | I blame Florida |
| 07:10.22 | Amarande | on the other hand, I probably wouldn't want to date this guy's gf anyway |
| 07:10.24 | Tekkub | totally |
| 07:10.26 | Amarande | she's another trade chat troll :| |
| 07:10.30 | Amarande | though somewhat less irritating than he is |
| 07:10.49 | Amarande | on the other hand, she's been known to troll Nagrand chat while I'm doing netherwing dailies |
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| 07:11.44 | Tem | wait wait, Tekkub |
| 07:12.02 | Tem | Miller is gay? |
| 07:12.14 | Tekkub | fuhLAMING |
| 07:12.22 | Tem | the whole time at the bar he was hitting on the waitress |
| 07:12.33 | Tekkub | you couldn't tell by how he was all fucking dressed up? |
| 07:12.50 | Tem | well we were in Cali |
| 07:12.53 | Tem | so that didn't mean much |
| 07:12.55 | Tekkub | nah, he's just a smooth talker |
| 07:13.17 | Tekkub | he got us a cut in the VIP bagde line, and managed to get himself a second goodiebag/mount card |
| 07:13.32 | Shirik | wtf |
| 07:13.36 | Shirik | I didn't get a cut in the VIP line |
| 07:13.43 | Shirik | also, btw, for VIP line that was one hell of a long line |
| 07:13.50 | Tekkub | and he was totally fucking giddy to meet The Guild chick |
| 07:13.50 | Tem | no kidding! |
| 07:13.51 | Shirik | not long in size, but long in time |
| 07:14.01 | Tem | Tekkub, Felicia day? |
| 07:14.02 | Tekkub | and after he did, he thinks she's "full of herself" |
| 07:14.04 | Tekkub | yea |
| 07:14.09 | Tem | I kind of want to groom her |
| 07:14.13 | Amarande | Shirik: sounds somewhat like when I went to pick up my pre-reg badge for DragonCon |
| 07:14.30 | Amarande | People who bought badges AT CON seemed to get through the line in a few minutes |
| 07:14.37 | Amarande | the PRE-REG line wrapped around the entire damned Hyatt, pretty much |
| 07:14.39 | Thunder_Child | i didnt bother getting the bad till the end of the first day |
| 07:14.44 | Tem | If I had a normal badge, my line was empty |
| 07:14.50 | Tem | instead I waited ~1h in the VIP line |
| 07:14.50 | Thunder_Child | helps that i had the badge beforehand |
| 07:14.52 | Shirik | The security guard was all "No you have to go wayyy over there to get in line" and I was like "Fool I'm getting a VIP badge" and he's like "o kk" and then I laughed at everyone in the huge line |
| 07:14.57 | Tekkub | they need to have a coupe VIP booths next time, or spread the bagdes out amongst the "normal" names |
| 07:15.01 | Shirik | then I proceeded to wait about and hour and a half in that line |
| 07:15.28 | Amarande | how many people were at blizzcon, anyway? |
| 07:15.31 | Shirik | and then they couldn't find my name |
| 07:15.34 | Tekkub | 42 |
| 07:15.36 | Thunder_Child | Amarande, 12,000 |
| 07:15.42 | Shirik | and then they found it |
| 07:15.46 | Thunder_Child | Tekkub, people not UI people |
| 07:15.48 | Shirik | because they didn't have the list of names alphabetized |
| 07:15.52 | Tekkub | 43 |
| 07:15.56 | Shirik | well they were alphabetized, but they were alphabetized by first name |
| 07:15.57 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Tekkub |
| 07:15.57 | purl | executes killall -KILL Tekkub |
| 07:16.02 | |pez| | damn, I'm so hungry... But I don't actually have time to make anything... |
| 07:16.15 | Shirik|zZz | and now is time for sleep |
| 07:16.16 | Shirik|zZz | nini |
| 07:16.18 | Thunder_Child | lies Shirik|zZz |
| 07:16.19 | |pez| | ninight |
| 07:16.19 | Tekkub | when we got to the booth they decided to try to split into two lines, and forgot to check us off as getting our stuff |
| 07:16.20 | Thunder_Child | night |
| 07:16.28 | Tekkub | I coulda got a send card too, but I didn't |
| 07:16.37 | Shirik|zZz | Esamynn got a second shirt |
| 07:16.40 | Shirik|zZz | then he gave it back |
| 07:16.46 | Thunder_Child | ya |
| 07:16.49 | Thunder_Child | dummy |
| 07:16.51 | Esamynn | got an EXTRA shirt |
| 07:16.57 | Esamynn | more than I ordered |
| 07:17.15 | Shirik|zZz | Esamynn, do I look asian? |
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| 07:17.23 | Tekkub | I'm gonna get the Tuskar action figure when it comes out in like 2 years |
| 07:17.28 | Tekkub | it was so fucking cute |
| 07:17.28 | Thunder_Child | thats cuse they figured that since you were spending a silly ammount of monies on a small amount of shirts you needed another one |
| 07:17.30 | Esamynn | Shirik|zZz: no |
| 07:17.35 | Shirik|zZz | thank you |
| 07:17.38 | Shirik|zZz | crazy people in this channel |
| 07:17.38 | Shirik|zZz | night |
| 07:17.39 | Tekkub | I like the tauren one, but won't pay $50 |
| 07:17.41 | Esamynn | lol |
| 07:17.54 | Thunder_Child | Shirik|zZz, i'm sorry but you aint a whiteboy |
| 07:17.59 | Esamynn | Shirik|zZz: though, I swear, I saw your twin in the store line |
| 07:18.09 | Shirik|zZz | uh |
| 07:18.13 | Shirik|zZz | you know I was in line with you, right? |
| 07:18.20 | Thunder_Child | hahahaha |
| 07:18.37 | Esamynn | no, no, but you were way back, wren't you? |
| 07:18.45 | Shirik|zZz | uh |
| 07:18.52 | Shirik|zZz | are we talking on friday or saturday |
| 07:18.58 | Esamynn | Sat morning |
| 07:19.01 | Shirik|zZz | oh |
| 07:19.04 | Shirik|zZz | no I was still asleep then |
| 07:19.15 | Esamynn | ok, nm then |
| 07:19.18 | Shirik|zZz | friday I was right next to you :/ |
| 07:19.24 | Esamynn | yes, I know :P |
| 07:19.56 | Shirik|zZz | ok night |
| 07:20.30 | End | ~night Shirik|zZz |
| 07:20.31 | purl | have a good night, Shirik|zZz |
| 07:22.39 | Esamynn | gn Shirik|zZz |
| 07:23.17 | Esamynn | damnit, this hotel has the EXACT same internet connection that I have at home :/ |
| 07:23.28 | Esamynn | speed limitations are exactly the same |
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| 07:23.52 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, what happened to not paying for it? |
| 07:24.16 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: I'm in the lobby |
| 07:24.24 | Esamynn | free wireless in the lobby |
| 07:24.31 | Thunder_Child | ah |
| 07:24.49 | ReAn | where @? |
| 07:24.50 | Amarande | I really should attend a blizzcon one of these years |
| 07:24.58 | Esamynn | which I can almost, ie. really flaky and weak, get in my room actually |
| 07:25.00 | Amarande | sadly, I probably never will, not if it's in october usually |
| 07:25.08 | Thunder_Child | it varies |
| 07:25.11 | Esamynn | Amarande: last year, was august |
| 07:25.17 | Amarande | august isn't that great either |
| 07:25.20 | Amarande | too close to Dragon Con |
| 07:25.26 | Thunder_Child | it's whenever they have info to release |
| 07:25.27 | ReAn | a buddy of mine skipped class to attend |
| 07:26.08 | Amarande | Rean: You know you're addicted to WoW when ... |
| 07:26.19 | Esamynn | Amarande: pfft, and you call yourself a Blizzard fan? :P |
| 07:26.51 | Amarande | Esamynn: after I actually insisted on questing Eastern Plaguelands when I could have gone on to Outland and saved myself the headache? :) |
| 07:27.04 | Amarande | oh wait, at least EPL is more fun than the suckitude that is Hellfire |
| 07:27.21 | Amarande | say ... are the Northrend starting zones going to actually be ones that one looks forward to playing in? |
| 07:27.31 | Esamynn | Amarande: I mean talking about other conventions OVER BlizzCon :P |
| 07:28.19 | Amarande | like, are we gonna be 'woohoo, borean/whatever the other one's called' |
| 07:28.33 | End | borean tundra is ugly :( |
| 07:28.35 | Amarande | or are we gonna be 'oh god, time for Borean/whatever' like now when it's 'crap, not hellfire again' |
| 07:28.45 | Esamynn | lol |
| 07:28.49 | End | I plan on telling everyone to go borean tundra |
| 07:28.54 | Esamynn | so don't goto Borean |
| 07:28.56 | End | so that I can have howling fjord to myself |
| 07:28.58 | Amarande | I'm not even sure how BC became a success |
| 07:28.59 | Esamynn | lol |
| 07:29.06 | Amarande | given that the first zone sucks that mightily |
| 07:29.18 | Amarande | though I guess if you were 60 already you could go straight to zanger |
| 07:29.20 | Amarande | er, zangar |
| 07:29.31 | Esamynn | so full of hate... |
| 07:29.54 | Amarande | Esamynn: I went to Outland on 62 on my lock. An AFF LOCK. And I *still* wanted to strangle the person who designed Zeth'Gor. |
| 07:29.57 | zenzio | I liked Hellfire, once the initial surge of players was over |
| 07:30.22 | Amarande | zenzio: actually the lack of a surge of players these days is part of the problem with hellfire |
| 07:30.39 | Amarande | the mob population and respawn rate is still tuned to a mad rush of players |
| 07:30.48 | Amarande | which means when there's not many players, you get mobbed |
| 07:30.58 | Amarande | especially in friggin zeth'gor |
| 07:31.17 | Tekkub | Sixen, you can be happy |
| 07:31.22 | Tekkub | Roh likeded you |
| 07:31.56 | zenzio | Amarande: that could be the case, I haven't been a lowbie there for a while. It would be a good idea for WotLK if they had high respawn rates at first but adjusted them as necessary dynamically |
| 07:32.43 | Esamynn | respawn rates ARE dynamic |
| 07:33.18 | zenzio | I thought Amarande just said otherwise; but I obviously never bothered to check |
| 07:33.36 | End | tbh, respawn rates never seemed like an issues |
| 07:33.39 | Tem | Amarande, have you tried Zeth'gor on a DK? |
| 07:33.40 | End | however those goddamn cannons were |
| 07:33.46 | zenzio | being a prot warrior respawn rates never seemed very slow since I took an eternity to kill anything anyway |
| 07:34.12 | zenzio | (yes, I did 60-70 as prot) |
| 07:34.58 | Esamynn | well, good night folks |
| 07:35.12 | End | ~night Esamynn |
| 07:35.13 | purl | have a good night, Esamynn |
| 07:35.15 | Thunder_Child | ~bed |
| 07:35.16 | purl | methinks bed is a thing programmers have never heard of, ask me about shower |
| 07:35.16 | Esamynn | some of my BlizzCon photos are up, but not the more interesting ones, yet... |
| 07:35.22 | Thunder_Child | ~shower |
| 07:35.23 | purl | a shower is what you clearly need, thunder_child |
| 07:35.28 | End | ~unproductivity |
| 07:35.28 | purl | yay! |
| 07:35.29 | Thunder_Child | oh ow |
| 07:35.29 | Esamynn | ~factinfo bed |
| 07:35.29 | purl | bed -- created by derek <derek@hybrid-024-221-112-050.phoenix.speedchoice.com> at Sun Dec 31 06:53:10 2000 (2843 days); it has been requested 17 times, last by Thunder_Child, 13s ago. |
| 07:35.36 | Esamynn | ~factinfo shower |
| 07:35.36 | purl | shower -- last modified at Sun Sep 24 20:43:56 2006 by SportChick!n=SportChi@pdpc/supporter/base/SportChick; it has been requested 8 times, last by Thunder_Child, 13s ago. |
| 07:35.45 | End | wow, ~bed is old :P |
| 07:36.04 | Thunder_Child | ~bed Esamynn |
| 07:36.05 | purl | ACTION tucks Esamynn into a warm bed. |
| 07:36.07 | Thunder_Child | is what i meant to do |
| 07:38.22 | Tekkub | damnit clad |
| 07:40.49 | Kalroth | What did he break? |
| 07:42.53 | Amarande | Tem: I don't have beta, so I haven't done anything on a DK |
| 07:43.12 | Tem | DKs make Zeth'gor fun |
| 07:43.15 | Tem | you can't die |
| 07:43.22 | Tem | and there's an endless stream of mobs |
| 07:43.59 | cladhaire | Tekkub: did you show everyone your mark of the wild *cackle* |
| 07:44.37 | Tekkub | fuck |
| 07:44.39 | Tekkub | no |
| 07:44.49 | cladhaire | lol |
| 07:45.01 | zenzio | O_o |
| 07:45.23 | Tekkub | it wasn't MEANT to look like the MotW, it's just damn close |
| 07:45.35 | Tekkub | it was the generic flash art, but I liked it so I got it |
| 07:45.53 | cladhaire | I know, I just like mocking you :P |
| 07:46.06 | Tekkub | I know you know, was expaining to th eothers |
| 07:46.39 | End | honestly, I'm bewildered, I have no idea what yous guys are talking about |
| 07:46.58 | Tekkub | I got a bearpaw tattoo |
| 07:47.03 | End | ah |
| 07:47.14 | Tekkub | when I posted the pic on IRC, clad goes "why you get a MotW tattoo?" |
| 07:47.22 | End | lol |
| 07:47.30 | cladhaire | they look the same :P |
| 07:48.03 | zenzio | the scary part is that such an idea doesn't seem far-fetched |
| 07:48.45 | Tekkub | it's probably why I liked it so much :P |
| 07:48.48 | Tekkub | anywho, bedtime |
| 07:48.58 | cladhaire | night night! |
| 07:51.40 | cladhaire | hrm, so no extended downtime notification yet |
| 07:51.49 | cladhaire | i should still probably try to get stuff fixed tonight :P |
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| 08:02.38 | ZorbaTHut | I see an extended downtime notice |
| 08:02.43 | ZorbaTHut | 2am to 2pm, Tuesday Oct 14 |
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| 08:04.26 | End | Tuesday is gonna be fun |
| 08:04.33 | End | given some strange definition of fun |
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| 08:32.41 | cladhaire | ZorbaTHut: ah, not showing on my client |
| 08:32.44 | cladhaire | but thanks :P |
| 08:33.51 | batrick | anyone know if you go through all the raid ids that the player is included ? |
| 08:34.13 | batrick | i.e. for raid1-N, one of those ids will be the player? |
| 08:34.21 | cladhaire | batrick: yes, the highest one |
| 08:34.25 | cladhaire | in theory :P |
| 08:34.27 | batrick | ok thanks |
| 08:34.49 | cladhaire | for i=1,GetNumRaidMembers() do local unit = "raid"..i end |
| 08:37.34 | Fisker- | why must i be so sick? :( |
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| 09:18.35 | batrick | Is there a way to force a tooltip's text to be redrawn? |
| 09:20.13 | batrick | seems just doing SetText isn't enough |
| 09:20.17 | batrick | you have to hide then show it |
| 09:20.32 | batrick | but if I call Hide and then Show it never appears lol |
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| 10:10.45 | Elkano | Dolby ping |
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| 10:26.06 | Kalroth | Surround pong |
| 10:27.33 | Elkano | ~whalenametheft Kalroth |
| 10:27.34 | purl | ACTION watches in awe as a rather menacing whale named Reginald (who also happens to be well versed in the art of marketing) kicks Kalroth's ass and steals his/her name. The now anonymous target weeps. |
| 10:28.01 | Kalroth | I am anonymous. Watch out Scientology! |
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| 11:17.25 | batrick | i dont really understand why blizzard made mounts usable in water |
| 11:17.36 | batrick | it's going to look really stupid seeing horses that swim |
| 11:22.24 | Pneumatus | because horses irl cant swim, rite? |
| 11:23.02 | batrick | they can't |
| 11:23.05 | batrick | ... |
| 11:23.12 | batrick | was that supposed to be an argument? |
| 11:23.31 | Pneumatus | i'd be more concerned about motorbikes swimming than beasts though |
| 11:23.37 | Pneumatus | and mechanostriders for that matter |
| 11:23.55 | batrick | i thought water made for a very interesting mechanic and now it's going to be really stupid |
| 11:24.25 | Pneumatus | and horses can swim, fwiw. |
| 11:25.44 | batrick | that's bizarre |
| 11:34.14 | zenzio | personally I'm more concerned about swimming kodos and raptors |
| 11:35.32 | Neuro_Medivh | kodos don't swim... they surf |
| 11:38.48 | foxlit | "batrick: it's going to look really stupid seeing horses that swim" << the internet says you're wrong :) |
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| 11:39.07 | batrick | surf lol |
| 11:39.13 | batrick | foxlit: ya... |
| 11:39.20 | batrick | I learned something today |
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| 11:44.59 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: nah, no me. i decided that if I was gunna see blizzcon nude, I best stay at home and watch it on the telly ;) |
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| 11:51.37 | Adys | http://devcub.com/~adys/ggrng.jpg this is stupid, 140 runs and still no magister crown :( |
| 11:52.37 | zenzio | that is bad luck |
| 11:53.04 | Fisker- | Perhaps you should go farm Magister's leggings instead :D |
| 11:53.34 | Adys | I already have them |
| 11:53.47 | Adys | crown is last piece i need |
| 11:54.00 | Fisker- | damn |
| 11:54.10 | Fisker- | Would've been a lot better with Deathcharger's reins :P |
| 11:54.19 | Adys | reins + sword |
| 11:54.24 | Nom- | hmmm 12 hour outage tomorrow is that right |
| 11:54.25 | Nom- | ? |
| 11:54.52 | zenzio | sounds almost as if they're planning a big patch in that case :-o |
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| 11:55.05 | Fisker- | OH RLY zenzio ? |
| 11:55.17 | Fisker- | Like perhaps 3.0.2 |
| 11:55.18 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 11:55.19 | zenzio | Fisker-: was my joke not obvious enough? |
| 11:55.31 | Fisker- | oh god i was obvious trolled |
| 11:55.31 | Fisker- | :( |
| 11:55.51 | zenzio | obvious troll is obvious |
| 11:56.17 | Fisker- | ~wowalert |
| 11:56.18 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US), http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) |
| 11:56.27 | Fisker- | ouch |
| 11:56.46 | Fisker- | why not 0:00? |
| 11:56.59 | Nom- | oh i misread the times... bugger |
| 11:57.04 | Nom- | I read it as finishing at 2:00am PDT |
| 11:57.07 | Nom- | that would have been nice |
| 11:57.17 | Fisker- | then maintanence would be on monday :P |
| 11:57.37 | Nom- | Yeah, but it would have been online when I got home from work |
| 11:57.51 | Nom- | Now it means it goes down at 5:00pm local time, and comes up 5:00am the next day |
| 11:57.55 | Nom- | *sigh* |
| 11:58.08 | Fisker- | :E |
| 11:58.11 | Fisker- | aussie? |
| 11:58.50 | Fisker- | haha wtf |
| 11:58.55 | Fisker- | they still haven't fixed the EU torrent |
| 11:58.58 | Fisker- | massive failure |
| 11:59.23 | Nom- | Yeah, Aussie |
| 11:59.25 | Nom- | It kinda sucks |
| 11:59.43 | Nom- | Goes down just before i get home from work, comes back up just as i'm leaving the next day pretty much |
| 12:02.05 | Fisker- | I want that Diablo 3 t-shirt though |
| 12:02.29 | Fisker- | infact Blizzard and Popcap should go together on Peggle Diablo 3 Edition |
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| 12:28.27 | foxlit | qq, windows command prompt doesn't expand "foo *" into "foo file1 file2 file3 file4" |
| 12:31.46 | Kalroth | l2p |
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| 12:33.07 | Arrowmaster | foxlit: ofcourse not, youve got a space |
| 12:33.55 | foxlit | I don't see what you mean. |
| 12:35.01 | Arrowmaster | foo * instead of foo* |
| 12:35.43 | foxlit | Does expending "foo*" into "foo file1 file2 file3 file4" make sense to you? |
| 12:36.25 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 12:36.39 | selckin | whats the problem? |
| 12:37.01 | Arrowmaster | your forgetting on windows * is usually *.* |
| 12:37.33 | foxlit | Is there any reason * wouldn't match things that *.* would? :) |
| 12:37.38 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 12:37.47 | Arrowmaster | windows is stupid |
| 12:38.09 | foxlit | Meh, that part works for me. |
| 12:38.17 | foxlit | It's the argument list expansion that doesn't. |
| 12:39.01 | foxlit | So rather than translating * into argv = {"file1", "file2", "file3"}, it translates * into argv = {"*"} |
| 12:39.05 | foxlit | () |
| 12:39.19 | foxlit | (both slightly wrong, but let's ignore argv[0]) |
| 12:40.57 | batrick | i think it has something to do with windows being obsessive about file extensions |
| 12:41.06 | batrick | obcessive (sp?) |
| 12:41.19 | batrick | batbot: ?? |
| 12:41.19 | batbot | batrick, Probably. |
| 12:41.28 | foxlit | the first one was fine. |
| 12:42.10 | foxlit | I don't think it performs any actual expansion there - you just get * or *.* or whatever put in |
| 12:42.28 | Arrowmaster | probably not |
| 12:42.56 | selckin | just try with echo, very hard to get it to expand |
| 12:44.23 | foxlit | "very hard" implies possible -- is that the actual intention? :) |
| 12:47.18 | zenzio | "The difference in wildcard expansion between Windows and unix/Macintosh": http://blogs.msdn.com/dancre/archive/2005/05/14/417547.aspx |
| 12:47.33 | zenzio | pretty much "not the shell's job" |
| 12:47.50 | selckin | but it is! |
| 12:47.56 | batrick | anyone know if there's been word on when retailers will begin selling the nehalem CPUs Intel is making |
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| 12:49.48 | foxlit | It's problematic because then I'd have to implement windows-specific traversal code :/ |
| 12:52.26 | cbreak | Put a "Designed for a real OS" sticker on it :) |
| 12:58.06 | Arrowmaster | batbot: i heard maybe november |
| 12:58.17 | Arrowmaster | batrick: ^^^ |
| 12:58.19 | Arrowmaster | fuck your bot |
| 13:00.26 | batrick | lol |
| 13:00.49 | batrick | ya i saw novemeber on various sites, i was hoping to see it on preorder somewhere |
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| 13:03.15 | Shirik|zZz | is today some sort of holiday? |
| 13:04.44 | foxlit | yes |
| 13:05.00 | foxlit | Columbus Day |
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| 13:09.54 | zenzio | woot, peppy's back! |
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| 13:10.19 | Castigo | roar! |
| 13:10.21 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, zenzio! I traveled and had fun and came back! |
| 13:10.23 | Lopeppeppy | RAWR! |
| 13:10.29 | zenzio | and you were missed |
| 13:10.39 | Castigo | ScytheBlade1: pl0x tell me that you are there! |
| 13:10.40 | Lopeppeppy | Aww, thank you so much for that! |
| 13:11.21 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, glad to see you made it home safely as well. *hugs* |
| 13:11.29 | Castigo | Shirik was it you or scythe working on the achievements addon? |
| 13:12.14 | Shirik | if you are using an addon, chances are I didn't write it |
| 13:12.21 | Shirik | (or wanted to use an addon) |
| 13:12.22 | Castigo | LOL |
| 13:12.35 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, be nice to yourself! |
| 13:12.38 | zenzio | yeah, all Shirik works on is conspiracies |
| 13:12.46 | Castigo | nah i remember couple of days ago somone posted that was writing an addon for make the achievement window look better |
| 13:12.51 | foxlit | what's the story with all of the openrdx stuff at wowi? |
| 13:12.53 | Lopeppeppy | But yeah, it was prolly ScytheBlade1. |
| 13:13.07 | Shirik | openrdx community |
| 13:13.08 | Castigo | so i was wondering if there was an api in 3.0 to know the number of mobs you killed in general and the number of quests you completed (since i belive it's displayed into the achievement window) |
| 13:14.40 | Shirik | hey cladhaire, ping |
| 13:14.46 | cladhaire | sup |
| 13:14.57 | Shirik | Thought you might enjoy http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/admin/peakaboo.php?id=11013&show=ArmoryQuickLink%2FArmoryQuickLink.toc |
| 13:15.10 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, cladhaire. |
| 13:16.07 | cladhaire | morning peppy! |
| 13:16.21 | cladhaire | Shirik: why? |
| 13:16.26 | foxlit | /admin/ and "Access Denied", qq! |
| 13:16.27 | Shirik | core.lua as the only file :) |
| 13:16.30 | cladhaire | Shirik: also that's a peekaboo link |
| 13:16.31 | cladhaire | oh |
| 13:16.33 | cladhaire | i hate you |
| 13:16.37 | Shirik | :D |
| 13:16.38 | cladhaire | welcome back |
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| 13:18.07 | Castigo | Uhm.... to pick the xp gains and how much is it |
| 13:18.19 | Castigo | do i need to filter the combat log on COMBAT_XP_GAIN messages? |
| 13:18.22 | Shirik | foxlit: It's nothing really amazing |
| 13:18.31 | Lopeppeppy | "I hate you, welcome back" |
| 13:18.33 | Shirik | it's just the download |
| 13:18.37 | Lopeppeppy | cladhaire = the awesome |
| 13:18.38 | Shirik | without having to extract it |
| 13:19.39 | Shirik | yes cladhaire is meanie :( |
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| 13:21.15 | Castigo | anyone knows why UNIT_PORTRAIT_UPDATE doesn't get called even if the event is registered? |
| 13:21.59 | Shirik | it does afaik |
| 13:22.35 | Shirik | just confirmed it does |
| 13:22.36 | Shirik | soooooooo |
| 13:23.00 | Shirik | actually gets called twice when shifting out of form which is peculiar |
| 13:24.55 | Lopeppeppy | Flippers are confusing. |
| 13:25.05 | Lopeppeppy | * Note to the wise, jet lag makes for a weird Peppy |
| 13:25.27 | Shirik | yes it's still hurting my head |
| 13:25.36 | Shirik | and I actually have a class right now but I'm so late it's not even worth going to |
| 13:25.44 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, you had the same time shift I did, Shirik. |
| 13:26.08 | zenzio | pfft, you can't complain about jet lag if you've travelled less than six time zones, minimum |
| 13:27.28 | Lopeppeppy | Can too! |
| 13:27.47 | Shirik | I believe I just did :) |
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| 13:28.37 | foxlit | http://go-hero.net/temp/blp << in case anyone hasn't poked their eyes out in terror yet |
| 13:29.56 | Castigo | btw does anyone knows if when you change zone and get a loading screens |
| 13:30.09 | cladhaire | I hope the rest of the question is coming soon |
| 13:30.10 | Castigo | it's a reload equivalent for the addons or not? |
| 13:30.47 | cladhaire | the onloy time the UI reloads.. is when you reload the UI |
| 13:30.47 | cladhaire | never any other time |
| 13:30.47 | Shirik | hey foxlit, I was reviewing those code jam stats again |
| 13:30.47 | Shirik | And something about it scares me |
| 13:30.48 | foxlit | mm? |
| 13:30.51 | Shirik | Down in the "Language popularity [perfect]" for qualifier round |
| 13:31.01 | Shirik | I see Brainfuck listed |
| 13:31.05 | Lopeppeppy | *snark* |
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| 13:32.11 | foxlit | Yeah, http://www.go-hero.net/jam/name/bozzball has a fun mix of languages |
| 13:32.39 | Castigo | does anyone knows aswell how to obtain the number of mobs/quests completed ever done on a char (achievement system have this stat) |
| 13:32.49 | cladhaire | Castigo: you query the achievement system |
| 13:33.19 | cladhaire | see http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10043170854&sid=1 |
| 13:35.02 | Castigo | ty claf |
| 13:35.04 | Castigo | *clad |
| 13:35.19 | clafaire | cladfhaire doesn't work as well |
| 13:35.47 | Castigo | clad how do i know the ID of the achievements tho? |
| 13:36.21 | cladhaire | they are static |
| 13:36.29 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:36.52 | Castigo | GetStatistic(id) |
| 13:36.54 | cladlnaire | :D |
| 13:36.55 | Fisker- | I wouldn't go to the toilet in cladhaire's computer |
| 13:36.55 | Castigo | i suppose is the one i need |
| 13:37.00 | cladhaire | GetStatisticsCategoryList() may help as well |
| 13:37.09 | c1adhaire | ooo, now they'll never know |
| 13:37.51 | Shirik | so I was browsing through the nicks that I had registere don this account |
| 13:37.56 | cladhaire | k k |
| 13:38.03 | Shirik | Apparently I have SonicDeathMonkey attached to this account? |
| 13:38.09 | Shirik | does anyone know why? :/ |
| 13:38.14 | cladhaire | i had Dreadlorde :P |
| 13:38.15 | Fisker- | hows blizzcon etc? |
| 13:38.16 | Josh_Borke | Shirik: not a clue |
| 13:38.20 | Josh_Borke | cladhaire: lol |
| 13:38.26 | cladhaire | just so he couldn't reg it |
| 13:39.32 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker-, it was awesome! |
| 13:39.54 | Shirik | ~~~~~~~~ |
| 13:39.55 | purl | You know, this got old a long time ago. |
| 13:39.58 | Josh_Borke | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:40.04 | Lopeppeppy | Nope. |
| 13:40.09 | Shirik | negatory, sorry |
| 13:40.18 | Josh_Borke | she was more cautious this year huh |
| 13:41.05 | Shirik | barely got anything other than the group one :) |
| 13:41.40 | Lopeppeppy | I got a few others, Shirik, she was much more congenial when she had me to torture into the picture too! :) |
| 13:41.56 | Fisker- | Starcraft 2 beta should start soon |
| 13:42.14 | Josh_Borke | that is hot news |
| 13:42.32 | Fisker- | I don't mean it will, i mean it should :P |
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| 13:42.51 | Fisker- | Looks done already |
| 13:43.06 | Lopeppeppy | Looks awesome. |
| 13:43.09 | Fisker- | any of you got to play SC2 btw? |
| 13:43.12 | Fisker- | i guess you did :P |
| 13:43.13 | Lopeppeppy | I almost won a game! |
| 13:43.21 | Fisker- | How's the menu actually? :3 |
| 13:43.25 | foxlit | damn that ai! |
| 13:43.25 | Lopeppeppy | But then *somebody* had to go and kill me a lot |
| 13:43.25 | Shirik | haha |
| 13:43.27 | Shirik | hahaha |
| 13:43.30 | Shirik | sorry :( |
| 13:43.37 | Fisker- | herro Shirik |
| 13:44.24 | Shirik | I was scared of Peppy |
| 13:45.20 | Fisker- | So did any of you bring a usb line that you could show to me later? |
| 13:45.20 | Fisker- | (i.e. break security and put SC2 on it) |
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| 13:48.51 | Josh_Borke | Lopeppeppy: is it gonna be awesome? |
| 13:49.56 | Lopeppeppy | I did have Shirik on the run for a few minutes, it was awesome. |
| 13:50.15 | Lopeppeppy | I like it, JoshBorke. The building trees are different, there are new units, but the graphics are sooooo sweetly rendered. |
| 13:50.17 | foxlit | "I bought this book, but it intentionally contained too many pages and overflowed my bookcase. It fell off the end, and gave my cat a fatal error. While I was in the back garden burying Muffins, he sneaked into my house and stole all my stuff!" |
| 13:50.56 | Josh_Borke | Lopeppeppy: is it true to the original? massive battles etc |
| 13:51.49 | cladhaire | this is the best review we have for our book evar |
| 13:51.51 | cladhaire | "this book is for those who are not wow savvy. If you are you are probably wasting your time. My son was not as impressed with this book as other books he has received." |
| 13:51.55 | cladhaire | and she rated the book four stars |
| 13:51.56 | cladhaire | O.o |
| 13:51.57 | cladhaire | duur |
| 13:52.13 | cladhaire | still makes me laugh |
| 13:52.24 | Shirik | cog showed me that a bit ago, I laughed :) |
| 13:53.00 | Lopeppeppy | Josh_Borke, the demo time was limited, but I see the potential for it, in serious. |
| 13:53.14 | Shirik | I was just glad to see the controls stayed mostly the same |
| 13:53.21 | Shirik | I was disappointed to see that I couldn't zoom in/out |
| 13:53.24 | Shirik | hopefully that will change |
| 13:53.49 | Shirik | I was also glad to see the "Victory" screen |
| 13:54.23 | foxlit | The zoom may be a feature rather than a lack of a feature |
| 13:54.34 | cladhaire | I'm sad I didn't get to play diablo iii |
| 13:54.40 | Shirik | Oh! and probably best adjustment for multiplayer: When your opponent has no units left for a few minutes, all buildings are shown to enemies |
| 13:55.02 | Shirik | to protect against meanies like me that when they die they would go all around the map just building pylons |
| 13:55.05 | batrick | i believe they added that to SC1 in a patch |
| 13:55.12 | Shirik | must have been a really late patch then |
| 13:55.16 | Shirik | I never saw it |
| 13:55.29 | foxlit | Shirik: can't you be solved by a few aerial units being given attack move orders everywhere? |
| 13:55.34 | Shirik | yes |
| 13:55.44 | Shirik | but what if you're playing a 256x256 map? |
| 13:55.48 | Shirik | Like I normally do |
| 13:55.50 | Shirik | that could still take forever |
| 13:56.05 | foxlit | You must construct additional battlecruisers |
| 13:56.22 | Josh_Borke | it's all about the cloaked wraiths |
| 13:57.17 | Lopeppeppy | We don't need no wraits |
| 13:57.48 | foxlit | waht do we, er, need |
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| 13:59.47 | Fisker- | I actually won in C&C Generals with that Shirik >:3 |
| 13:59.54 | Fisker- | Had a rocket turret some stupid place |
| 13:59.59 | Fisker- | They looked for like 15 minutes and then quit |
| 14:00.06 | Fisker- | i r victorious |
| 14:00.26 | Lopeppeppy | That might be why it's a cheese thing they took out. :) |
| 14:00.31 | Lopeppeppy | We need more cookies, foxlit. |
| 14:00.33 | Shirik | ^ |
| 14:00.38 | Shirik | I'm going back to sleep for a few hours |
| 14:00.38 | foxlit | mm, cookies |
| 14:00.39 | Shirik | byes |
| 14:00.39 | Lopeppeppy | SOME lucky people got cookies this weekend. |
| 14:00.42 | Lopeppeppy | Night Shirik |
| 14:00.57 | Shirik|AFK | I had a cookie at the airport |
| 14:04.11 | batrick | Shirik|AFK: that worked thanks |
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| 14:11.09 | cladhaire | ~seen cogwheel |
| 14:11.11 | purl | cogwheel <n=cogwheel@WoWUIDev/WoWProgramming/morlando/cogwheel> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 5d 10h 47m 10s ago, saying: 'well, i suppose my computer has evolved enough that it would run fine on xp and on...'. |
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| 14:25.49 | Atriace | the force COMPELS YOU! |
| 14:27.04 | Castigo | is there a way to know how many exalted faction a player has? |
| 14:27.13 | Castigo | (local player that is ofc) |
| 14:27.26 | haste | just iterate over the factions and count :p ? |
| 14:28.27 | kneeki | Castigo: http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API#Faction_Functions ? |
| 14:28.56 | Castigo | Kneeki i know that and i already have an exalted faction calcualtor based on that |
| 14:29.02 | Castigo | BUT i hope there was a quicker way |
| 14:29.20 | kneeki | Castigo: I'd use a for loop. But I don't always use the quickest way. =\ |
| 14:29.28 | Wikwocket | I doubt there is a function like GetNumberExaltedFactions() or anything, not sure why there would be something like that |
| 14:30.04 | Castigo | wikwocket to speed up so u don't have to use a for loop :P |
| 14:30.21 | kneeki | Castigo: I'm unsure what that is |
| 14:30.40 | kneeki | But I believe it's witchcraft... Throw him in the lake!!! |
| 14:32.35 | Lopeppeppy | cladhaire, I expect we'll see Cogwheel either later today or tomorrow (having to catch up after a few days off, I'd imagine) |
| 14:32.42 | cladhaire | okay =( |
| 14:32.46 | cladhaire | i need him before that, but I'll ping him |
| 14:32.52 | Castigo | aswell is there any allternative/better way to get the player earning xp |
| 14:32.58 | Castigo | than |
| 14:33.01 | Castigo | CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_XP_GAIN? |
| 14:33.25 | Lopeppeppy | I'll let him know you're lurking for him, should I see him first. |
| 14:33.58 | kneeki | Castigo: local exaulted; for i = 1, GetNumFactions() do local name, description, standingId, bottomValue, topValue, earnedValue, atWarWith, |
| 14:34.00 | kneeki | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:34.19 | kneeki | oops |
| 14:34.26 | kneeki | s\factionIndex\i |
| 14:34.33 | kneeki | or however that works ;) |
| 14:35.05 | Castigo | kneeki yes sort of |
| 14:35.42 | Pneumatus | *exalted |
| 14:35.52 | kneeki | Ah |
| 14:35.59 | Lopeppeppy | Speling ftw. :) |
| 14:36.03 | kneeki | lol |
| 14:36.30 | zenzelezz | let's just say there's a startling amount of players that get "exalted" wrong |
| 14:36.51 | kneeki | well, i'm not alone then |
| 14:37.03 | Pneumatus | yeh, putting a 'u' somewhere in exalted is fairly common |
| 14:37.12 | zenzelezz | even "h" is common |
| 14:37.15 | zenzelezz | "exhaulted" |
| 14:37.23 | Castigo | hexalted! |
| 14:37.32 | kneeki | haha |
| 14:37.50 | Castigo | uhm... |
| 14:37.55 | Castigo | this is nice question aswell |
| 14:38.03 | Castigo | how do i know if a mob i am in combat with |
| 14:38.04 | Castigo | dies? |
| 14:38.05 | Castigo | >< |
| 14:38.09 | clad|away | EXHAULTEDZ |
| 14:38.14 | kneeki | Castigo: Events fire |
| 14:38.20 | Castigo | Kneeki which one? |
| 14:38.24 | kneeki | Castigo: sec.. |
| 14:38.27 | clad|away | Castigo: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events |
| 14:38.31 | clad|away | use your browser's find feature |
| 14:38.58 | kneeki | Castigo: look into: "CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_HOSTILE_DEATH" |
| 14:39.05 | zenzelezz | or don't |
| 14:39.11 | kneeki | or don't. |
| 14:39.20 | zenzelezz | the wiki and others suggest using the new combat log event |
| 14:39.26 | kneeki | ohhh |
| 14:39.41 | clad|away | duur,good point :P |
| 14:39.43 | kneeki | I'm still not all that familiar with the new one =) |
| 14:39.46 | clad|away | we all forget about the new system |
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| 14:40.23 | haste | clearly because you are so "away" clad|away |
| 14:40.26 | Castigo | ty kneeki :) |
| 14:40.44 | Castigo | clad i am not familiar with browsers ^^ |
| 14:40.45 | clad|away | truth |
| 14:40.54 | kneeki | Castigo: Np, but I do recommend you look into the new system. Otherwise you may run into issues in the future |
| 14:41.08 | kneeki | Castigo: COMBAT_LOG_EVENT |
| 14:41.08 | Castigo | tho i am very familiar with lazyness and i am "bugging ppl" specced atm |
| 14:41.10 | zenzelezz | Castigo: get familiar with them ;) We don't mind helping, as long as you do your part first |
| 14:41.33 | Castigo | kneeki i am using it on the beta |
| 14:41.36 | Castigo | but seems to be working fine |
| 14:41.54 | Castigo | kind of atleast |
| 14:42.23 | Castigo | zenze i know and understand |
| 14:42.47 | Castigo | tho it's faster to ask and anyone answer if knows quick, else just "search" |
| 14:43.03 | Castigo | i know i know rtfm |
| 14:43.35 | zenzelezz | there's a general attitude in this channel to tell people to do their own work if they seem to repeatedly not do so |
| 14:44.17 | zenzelezz | that sounds so wrong |
| 14:44.23 | kneeki | hah |
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| 14:45.20 | Castigo | LOOOOOOOOOOL |
| 14:45.27 | Kraps | hey, anyone know where you can watch the blizzcon class panel online? |
| 14:45.45 | Castigo | kraps if it's not on wowinsider or mmochampion it never existed |
| 14:45.58 | sacarasc | would "/castsequence reset=12/combat/target Flame Shock, Lava Lash, Earth Shock, Lava Lash" work how I think it should? (resets after 12s of non-use, after leaving combat or when I change target) |
| 14:46.55 | Kraps | i'm looking on youtube, but people seem more interested in diablos wizard class. |
| 14:47.18 | Kraps | this is not a knock against diablo |
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| 14:49.15 | Castigo | back on the achievement :P first time i explore that part of wow addons |
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| 14:49.17 | Castigo | gonna be cool |
| 14:50.00 | Castigo | has anyone patiently wrote all the achievements id down yet on internet? |
| 14:50.55 | kneeki | Castigo: That would be a painful task |
| 14:50.56 | sacarasc | just went and tested it, it works |
| 14:51.07 | Castigo | Kneeki somone gotta do it |
| 14:51.09 | Castigo | anyway :P |
| 14:52.01 | Doow | I dunno how the interface for achievements works, but couldn't you just write an addon that grabs all the data ingame and writes it to a savefile? |
| 14:52.27 | Wikwocket | I would think Wowhead has achievement ID's, as in 1558 for http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?achievement=1558 |
| 14:52.32 | Castigo | Doow yes, but i suppose that would be useful for developers to know the ids in general |
| 14:52.37 | Castigo | on a wowwiki development page |
| 14:52.50 | Castigo | (atleast i find it usefull so i don't have to find the ids myself) |
| 14:54.17 | Doow | castigo: of course, the idea would be to just export the data rather than writing it all down by hand |
| 14:54.40 | Castigo | uhm..... |
| 14:54.58 | Doow | if you just look at the data yourself or post it on wowwiki is a different matter |
| 14:55.37 | Castigo | Doow nah i just need to know how many quests in total has the player achieved |
| 14:55.52 | Castigo | but using the GetStatistic(506) kinda doesn't work >< |
| 14:56.00 | Castigo | returns 500/500 (it's the 500 quest achievement) |
| 14:56.00 | Doow | ok |
| 14:56.47 | Castigo | how do i extract the .pub to lua files? |
| 14:57.16 | haste | ~framexml |
| 14:57.17 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/ |
| 14:57.21 | Doow | but there's gotta be a way of knowing what achievement id corresponds to which achievement text? |
| 14:57.31 | Castigo | haste ok i can't do that then it doesn't work on mac anymore |
| 14:57.44 | Fisker- | haste my freiend |
| 14:57.45 | Fisker- | :( |
| 14:57.48 | Fisker- | friend* |
| 14:57.58 | haste | Castigo: wowcompares it is then |
| 14:58.23 | Castigo | aye, thanks |
| 14:59.19 | Castigo | still doesn't show it >< |
| 14:59.44 | Castigo | bah, brb, digging into the code now |
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| 15:03.59 | Castigo | Lope can i dance with u? |
| 15:08.24 | Castigo | does it exists an addon where i can actually type a multiline script |
| 15:08.29 | Castigo | for testing purposes |
| 15:08.32 | Castigo | and it execute it? |
| 15:08.44 | haste | TinyPad, Hack, LuaSlinger to mention a few |
| 15:08.47 | Castigo | it's kinda silly cut and paste by hand |
| 15:08.50 | Lopeppeppy | Anyone can dance, at any time. |
| 15:10.06 | Castigo | cheers haste |
| 15:10.09 | Wikwocket | WoWLua is another |
| 15:13.06 | Kraps | GC wins |
| 15:13.46 | Kraps | (ghostcrawler) |
| 15:18.25 | Lopeppeppy | He's a good Crab |
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| 15:20.28 | Kraps | eh? |
| 15:21.26 | Lopeppeppy | I believe his icon is a crab? |
| 15:21.59 | Kraps | ah |
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| 15:23.55 | Lopeppeppy | Is good crab. |
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| 15:29.24 | kneeki | Hmm, I think my Okay/Cancel/Default buttons for my addons are broke (that use the WoW Interface Addons panel) |
| 15:29.58 | |Jelly| | ~hug Peppy |
| 15:29.59 | purl | ACTION hugs Peppy |
| 15:30.08 | kneeki | When I click Cancel, it will occasionally reset my addons saved vars to default, and then not recheck any of my buttons in the window |
| 15:30.19 | kneeki | It also resets my Show Cloak and Show Helm graphics... |
| 15:30.24 | kneeki | Weird |
| 15:31.04 | kneeki | actually |
| 15:31.08 | kneeki | It does not reset my vars |
| 15:31.12 | kneeki | It sets all of them to nil |
| 15:32.29 | kneeki | Here's a pasty: http://www.wowi.pastey.net/98161 - Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? |
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| 15:33.35 | Lopeppeppy | ~pounce |Jelly| |
| 15:33.35 | purl | ACTION jumps on |Jelly| and bounces around Tigger style |
| 15:33.40 | kneeki | Oops, forgot to include the Restore() function. http://www.wowi.pastey.net/98163 |
| 15:33.51 | Castigo | aye was about to ask for it ^^ |
| 15:33.57 | kneeki | =P |
| 15:33.58 | Kraps | this guy fails http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10971913418&sid=1 |
| 15:34.02 | Castigo | when those functions are called? |
| 15:34.06 | kneeki | Kraps: I fail, a lot |
| 15:34.32 | kneeki | Castigo: The LoadOptions is when the addon is created. Restore() would be clicked each time the cancel button is pressed |
| 15:35.16 | Castigo | ADDON_LOADED? |
| 15:35.21 | kneeki | Castigo: Yeah |
| 15:35.29 | Castigo | no clue then :P |
| 15:35.44 | |Jelly| | ~sigh |
| 15:35.45 | purl | *sigh* |
| 15:36.06 | kneeki | The problem does not occur until I click the Cancel button, so I don't think it's a loading issue. I think the problem is in the Restore() function |
| 15:36.17 | |Jelly| | Apparently even with two monitors, with wow in maximized window mode, even when I'm TABBED OUT OF WOW, i can't put my cursor on my second monitor. |
| 15:36.20 | kneeki | Although, I don't see anything wrong. |
| 15:36.34 | Lopeppeppy | |Jelly|, that's weirdness. |
| 15:36.36 | kneeki | |Jelly|: Use windowed mode maxamized |
| 15:36.50 | |Jelly| | ... |
| 15:37.02 | kneeki | Same effect, but no minimizing and so forth. |
| 15:37.06 | |Jelly| | [10:36]<|Jelly|>Apparently even with two monitors, ***with wow in maximized window mode***, even when I'm TABBED OUT OF WOW, i can't put my cursor on my second monitor. |
| 15:37.09 | kneeki | tabbing is much faster |
| 15:37.34 | kneeki | |Jelly|: Ah, I didn't read that close enough. A friend of mine complains about that a lot. But he doesn't play in windowed mode. =p |
| 15:38.03 | Castigo | omfg this achievement thingy is driving me up the wall |
| 15:38.16 | zenzelezz | |Jelly|: I'm guessing it's not something obvious like different resolutions and you hitting the "hard edge" where there's no room on the side? |
| 15:38.57 | Castigo | Scytheeeee where are u? |
| 15:39.01 | |Jelly| | It randomly works. For instance, now. |
| 15:39.11 | |Jelly| | When WoW is closed, it works 100% of the time. |
| 15:39.30 | Castigo | jelly does it happens in other games? |
| 15:39.37 | zenzelezz | tried enabling(disabling hardware cursor in video options? |
| 15:39.51 | Castigo | and how are the hardware cursor options turned? |
| 15:39.52 | |Jelly| | Dunno. The only other games I play are FPS. :P |
| 15:40.09 | Castigo | might have something to do with the DirectInput grabbing the mouse as exclusive |
| 15:40.24 | |Jelly| | Both enabled and disabled, no go. |
| 15:41.00 | zenzelezz | out of ideas then :-/ |
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| 15:42.04 | Castigo | jelly wow support |
| 15:42.06 | Castigo | for the forum? |
| 15:42.39 | |Jelly| | Well, step 1 before I post on the forums is going to be reboot my computer sometime today. |
| 15:42.46 | Lopeppeppy | Yuppers, dear. |
| 15:44.47 | |Jelly| | Either way, I'm going to go ahead and blame Shirik |
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| 15:46.54 | Castigo | uhm... i don't receive any CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_HOSTILE_DEATH |
| 15:46.59 | Lopeppeppy | He's asleepting. |
| 15:47.09 | Castigo | actually i don't receive any combat message at all |
| 15:47.12 | Castigo | and the combat log is empty |
| 15:47.13 | Castigo | lol |
| 15:47.13 | zenzelezz | Castigo: like we said, go with the new combat log event |
| 15:47.19 | zenzelezz | hm |
| 15:47.23 | Castigo | zenze my combat log is EMPTY |
| 15:47.25 | zenzelezz | did you filter the combat log? |
| 15:47.36 | zenzelezz | try COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED or whatever it's called |
| 15:47.41 | Castigo | no, but shouldn't matter |
| 15:47.43 | Castigo | i suppose |
| 15:48.17 | Castigo | filter should be applied "visually" i hope |
| 15:48.21 | Castigo | not to the events |
| 15:48.43 | Wikwocket | You do want to process th eunfiltered events, then screen for the event type you want. |
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| 15:51.21 | Castigo | wik i am not getting COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED eitheer anyway |
| 15:51.43 | Castigo | ahhh hang on |
| 15:51.43 | Kraps | hey is ptr still up? |
| 15:51.52 | Castigo | i bet it got something to do with ace and new omen |
| 15:51.53 | Castigo | on beta |
| 15:51.56 | Castigo | lemme disable it |
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| 15:54.22 | Castigo | bingo |
| 15:55.18 | Castigo | combatlog now works |
| 15:55.23 | Lopeppeppy | AFK for lunches! |
| 15:56.12 | Castigo | uhm..... |
| 15:56.26 | Castigo | wikwocket ok, i tried to kill a mob displaying all the combat messages i get |
| 15:56.29 | Castigo | on mob dead |
| 15:56.36 | Castigo | i get PARTY_KILL |
| 15:56.43 | Castigo | (and i am in solo) |
| 15:56.52 | Castigo | does that gets sent on raid kill and party kill |
| 15:57.44 | Castigo | http://www.wowwiki.com/COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_Details |
| 15:57.45 | Castigo | >< |
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| 15:58.46 | Castigo | lol |
| 15:58.53 | Castigo | all the events got a description |
| 15:58.55 | Castigo | but PARTY_KILL |
| 15:58.56 | Wikwocket | I am not an expoert on events, beyond what you read on wowwiki or wowprogramming :( |
| 15:58.57 | Castigo | wth |
| 15:59.25 | Castigo | that's called LUCK |
| 15:59.31 | Dewin | Is there a way to tell at run time what a given frame inherits from, if anything? |
| 15:59.42 | Castigo | every events are described but the one i am interested in LOL |
| 16:00.33 | Dewin | Castigo: Invite a friend to commit seppuku with you while you watch events with devtools maybe? |
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| 16:05.14 | Dewin | If you need a volunteer and whatever you're doing is on PTR I can help :) |
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| 16:06.57 | foxlit | Atriace: impossible. Have you looked at the PS price tags? |
| 16:07.14 | Kraps | people are still not convinced that 3.0 drops tomorrow |
| 16:07.30 | Atriace | Foxlit: yeah... sadly I have the entire suite. |
| 16:08.13 | Dewin | Kraps: People don't like change, and most want to deny the obvious truths because they aren't ready for it. |
| 16:08.29 | Atriace | Foxlit: I might be able to send you an older copy you could toy with |
| 16:09.01 | Kraps | Dewin: then there are those horrible "THE END OF AN ERA!" threads... |
| 16:09.02 | foxlit | I'm not convinced its worthwhile, though :) |
| 16:09.16 | Dewin | They'll say 3.0 doesn't come tomorrow because they have nothing to lose and everything to gain by being right. |
| 16:09.52 | Dewin | never mind the fact their chances of being right are about the chances of me winning the lottery tomorrow, which is to say nothing since I don't even have a ticket. |
| 16:10.06 | Kraps | lol |
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| 16:10.46 | schnoggo | does /who trigger different return events under 3.0? Having some very wierd isues... |
| 16:10.57 | Dewin | I made a nice little PHP app that catalogues all of the frames in FrameXML, including what all the templates are and what uses them... |
| 16:11.13 | Dewin | I wish I could do the same in a WoW addon -- then I could write a template browser :) |
| 16:11.52 | schnoggo | as in i'm not seeing CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM or WHO_LIST_UPDATE events |
| 16:12.50 | Castigo | schn on beta? |
| 16:12.56 | Castigo | beta server who list is bugged |
| 16:12.59 | Castigo | it's a known bug |
| 16:13.04 | schnoggo | ah |
| 16:13.19 | schnoggo | working on ptr? |
| 16:13.40 | Castigo | no idea |
| 16:13.43 | Castigo | but on beta for example |
| 16:13.50 | Castigo | if i do /who shaman 70 |
| 16:13.55 | Castigo | the window doesn't pop up |
| 16:14.04 | Castigo | i need to open the social window and click on |
| 16:14.08 | Castigo | Who |
| 16:14.09 | schnoggo | that's exactly the problem... |
| 16:14.28 | Castigo | no idea if it works on ptr |
| 16:14.33 | Castigo | but on beta it's like this on every client |
| 16:14.36 | Castigo | both windows and mac |
| 16:14.48 | Dewin | Doesn't work on PTR either. |
| 16:14.51 | schnoggo | but the chat window is showing tghe info, so I assumed the events were fireing |
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| 16:15.05 | Dewin | /who gives results if it's short enough to go to chat, but the /who window doesn't pop up |
| 16:15.14 | Dewin | when I open the /who window, the information displayed IS correct, however. |
| 16:15.21 | Castigo | dewin yup |
| 16:16.14 | schnoggo | ok - if i open the who window, shouldn't I still be able to see WHO_LIST_UPDATE events firing? |
| 16:17.05 | Castigo | dewin it is |
| 16:17.08 | Castigo | designed to be like that? |
| 16:17.11 | Castigo | or it's a bug? |
| 16:17.14 | Dewin | /who storm does give me a (single) WHO_LIST_UPDATE, according to /dtevents |
| 16:17.58 | kneeki | Is panel.cancel not called when the player hits the escape key? |
| 16:18.13 | Castigo | kneeki depends on the options you pass it on creation |
| 16:18.18 | Castigo | by default i think it's not |
| 16:18.20 | kneeki | humm |
| 16:18.24 | foxlit | kneeki: It should be |
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| 16:18.37 | foxlit | Options at creation do not matter as there aren't any |
| 16:18.51 | foxlit | (assuming we're talking about UI Options panels) |
| 16:19.08 | kneeki | aye |
| 16:19.16 | Dewin | Did you set panel.cancel before or after you added it to the ui options panels? |
| 16:19.20 | Dewin | Don't know if it matters, but it might. |
| 16:19.27 | foxlit | It doesn't. |
| 16:19.39 | kneeki | Before =) |
| 16:19.41 | Castigo | it doesn't since should be passed by ref |
| 16:19.42 | foxlit | Add a print to the top of your cancel handler, and see if it results in anything |
| 16:19.56 | foxlit | What you're probably struggling with is an error in your cancel handler |
| 16:20.02 | Castigo | tho fox the messagebox have that option on cancel |
| 16:20.12 | Castigo | i tought the panels would have it too |
| 16:20.16 | Castigo | somewhere |
| 16:20.34 | foxlit | I give up parsing that :) |
| 16:21.12 | foxlit | The point is, if your panel.cancel throws an error, it may exit prematurely (making you think it was never run at all), and not tell you anything about it, since blizzard pcalls those handlers and doesn't do anything on failure. |
| 16:21.14 | Castigo | lol :P |
| 16:22.13 | kneeki | Ah |
| 16:22.22 | Dewin | Oh wow, OptionsFrameTemplate is pretty... nice. |
| 16:22.38 | kneeki | I'm still running into the issue of cancel setting all my vars to nil or false |
| 16:22.44 | Dewin | I've already decided my addon won't fit in the standard UI Options panel so... |
| 16:22.57 | kneeki | Dewin: You can create multiple pages |
| 16:23.04 | Castigo | dewin can't be as pretty as my bugs on the mobs killing counter :P |
| 16:23.14 | schnoggo | extra weirdness dtevents is showing CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM for both /who and shift-click-name, but my main event handler (which is working fine for other events ) isn't seeing them... Must be doing something braindamaged |
| 16:23.41 | Dewin | kneeki: I know you can create multiple pages, but the stuff that makes sense for one page won't fit all on one page ;) |
| 16:23.48 | kneeki | Ahh |
| 16:23.50 | kneeki | bummer |
| 16:24.08 | kneeki | You could create an additional 'box' to the side though |
| 16:24.10 | Dewin | I'll still USE it, I'll just have it pull up a dummy panel with an "about this addon" and a button that opens the real config utility ;) |
| 16:24.16 | kneeki | Which would be neat, I havn't seen it done before. |
| 16:24.34 | Dewin | I like the 'titlebar' on Blizzard's panels but have no idea how to get it. |
| 16:24.45 | kneeki | titlebar? |
| 16:24.47 | Dewin | and OptionsFrameTemplate defines too much. |
| 16:25.07 | Dewin | when you hit escape for the main menu, it says "Options" at the top |
| 16:25.09 | Castigo | zenze are u there? |
| 16:25.09 | foxlit | You, er, don't have to use it. |
| 16:25.13 | Dewin | that's *not* a separate frame. |
| 16:25.51 | Castigo | has anyone ever used PARTY_KILL event? |
| 16:26.02 | Dewin | Castigo: What are you trying to accomplish? (And no I haven't) |
| 16:26.23 | Castigo | dewin a counter of deat mobs per session |
| 16:26.55 | Castigo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:26.55 | Castigo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:26.55 | Castigo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:26.55 | Castigo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:26.56 | Castigo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:27.00 | Dewin | ohhh |
| 16:27.07 | Dewin | it's not an event, it's a combat log event :) |
| 16:27.10 | Castigo | tho i am not sure if PARTY_KILL is the right message to log |
| 16:27.44 | Castigo | displaying all the combat_log events i get seems so |
| 16:27.45 | Syzgyn | Castigo: Are you going for mobs you personally have killed, or that your party/raid has? |
| 16:27.58 | Castigo | but i don't know if there are any specs about it |
| 16:28.06 | Castigo | syz any mob u got incombat with since u started the session |
| 16:28.18 | Syzgyn | even ones tapped by other people? |
| 16:28.50 | Castigo | no, not those |
| 16:28.59 | Syzgyn | so just your party/raid |
| 16:29.09 | Castigo | myself, party, raid |
| 16:29.10 | Castigo | yes |
| 16:30.02 | Castigo | tho isn't that i get PARTY_KILL when a member of the party dies? |
| 16:30.10 | Syzgyn | I'd probably go off of whatever event triggers the "MobX has been slain by Player1" messages |
| 16:30.17 | Syzgyn | and then check if Player1 is in your party |
| 16:31.05 | Wikwocket | That should be a combat log event, which means it would include flags making it easy to see if it's a groupmate |
| 16:31.13 | Syzgyn | Ah, very true |
| 16:32.16 | Wikwocket | http://www.wowwiki.com/COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_Details is a great resource for such events |
| 16:32.21 | Castigo | i am still very much foggy about how to know the number of quests completed in total tho |
| 16:32.37 | Castigo | wikwo if it's the one iw as checking earlier on |
| 16:32.44 | Castigo | doesn't say anything about pARTY_KILL |
| 16:33.07 | Castigo | doesnt' even specify when it's fired |
| 16:33.15 | Syzgyn | You probably want UNIT_DIED though |
| 16:33.20 | Syzgyn | hold on I'm checking it |
| 16:33.32 | Castigo | unit_died you get it |
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| 16:33.39 | Castigo | just if the mobs is in ur tar |
| 16:33.48 | Castigo | else u UNIT wouldn't exists |
| 16:34.36 | Castigo | unless i've tot and my target is gargetting the mob |
| 16:34.38 | Castigo | *targetting |
| 16:35.00 | Dewin | Castigo: There's no real cleann way to do it, you might be able to scan the achievement UI |
| 16:35.03 | Dewin | quests, that is |
| 16:35.30 | Castigo | dewin that's what i am doing |
| 16:35.41 | Castigo | but the achievement system is being numpty |
| 16:35.43 | Castigo | ;P |
| 16:35.50 | Dewin | I don't think all of the quest achievements show either |
| 16:35.52 | Castigo | if i query 250 quest done achievement stats |
| 16:35.52 | Syzgyn | What about the achievements? |
| 16:35.53 | Dewin | My mage only sees 250 and 500 |
| 16:36.00 | Castigo | i get back 250/250 strink |
| 16:36.02 | Syzgyn | what are you trying to get? |
| 16:36.06 | Syzgyn | # of quests? |
| 16:36.16 | Castigo | syzgyn the number of quest TOTAL and of MOB total |
| 16:36.55 | Syzgyn | Quests is GetStatistic(98) |
| 16:37.18 | Syzgyn | Kills is GetStatistic(1197) |
| 16:37.47 | Syzgyn | though thats total kills, total kills that grant xp is 1198 |
| 16:37.58 | Dewin | wow |
| 16:38.00 | Syzgyn | As for the COMBAT_LOG_UNFILTERED thing |
| 16:38.05 | Dewin | I typoed 98 as 87 |
| 16:38.08 | Dewin | and crashed WoW |
| 16:38.11 | Syzgyn | yep :) |
| 16:38.18 | Dewin | nice bug |
| 16:38.18 | Syzgyn | It's still a bit finniky |
| 16:38.34 | Syzgyn | Same thing happens if you do GetAchievementCriteriaInfo() for an invalid ID |
| 16:40.11 | Castigo | syz ok, how do u know that ^^ |
| 16:40.14 | Castigo | (indeed it works) |
| 16:40.29 | Syzgyn | I've rewritten the achievement UI |
| 16:40.33 | Syzgyn | for my own mod |
| 16:40.40 | Syzgyn | Veeeery familiar with the api :P |
| 16:40.49 | Castigo | ahhh so it was u |
| 16:40.56 | Castigo | i tought it was Scyte :P |
| 16:40.58 | Syzgyn | it was me? |
| 16:40.58 | Castigo | tyvm dude |
| 16:40.59 | ScytheBlade1 | nope |
| 16:40.59 | Syzgyn | ah |
| 16:41.00 | Syzgyn | nm |
| 16:41.17 | Syzgyn | SBO: stealing my credit are we! |
| 16:41.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Syzgyn: uh? |
| 16:41.38 | Syzgyn | :P |
| 16:42.03 | Castigo | lol |
| 16:42.04 | Syzgyn | Castigo: Does that take care of your kill thing, or do you still need the combat log stuff |
| 16:42.13 | Shirik | schnoggo: ping |
| 16:42.22 | Castigo | syz actually u gave me an interesting idea |
| 16:42.28 | Syzgyn | Oh? |
| 16:42.30 | Castigo | i suppose that using the achievement system is |
| 16:42.37 | Castigo | when the window is displayed |
| 16:42.39 | Castigo | is faster than |
| 16:42.49 | Castigo | logging the kills |
| 16:42.56 | Syzgyn | Window doesnt have to be displayed |
| 16:43.03 | Syzgyn | GetStatistic() works always |
| 16:43.15 | Dewin | You'll still need the event to know when to re-call GetStatistic |
| 16:43.31 | Syzgyn | That would be CRITERIA_UPDATE |
| 16:43.44 | Syzgyn | Which is very very spammy |
| 16:43.45 | Dewin | Is that what that is? |
| 16:43.53 | Syzgyn | so make sure your call isnt too intensive |
| 16:43.57 | Castigo | dewin nah |
| 16:44.01 | Castigo | i got a tooltip |
| 16:44.05 | Castigo | with few statistics |
| 16:44.08 | Dewin | oh, well if that's the case ;) |
| 16:44.13 | Dewin | I thought you had an always-visible counter |
| 16:44.17 | Castigo | aye |
| 16:44.20 | Syzgyn | I do! :D |
| 16:44.27 | Castigo | luckyboy ain't i |
| 16:44.30 | Syzgyn | Tracking statistics like Total Dmg dealt is fun :P |
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| 16:44.46 | Dewin | I would (personally) avoid using CRITERIA_UPDATE if it's that spammy, I'd find a similiar less-spammy event and use it instead |
| 16:44.55 | Shirik | station! |
| 16:45.03 | Lunessa | station! |
| 16:45.04 | Wikwocket | OnUpdate() imo |
| 16:45.07 | Syzgyn | lol |
| 16:45.08 | Josh_Borke | or you could just throttle CRITERIA_UPDATE by pushing it to a stack and using OnUpdate |
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| 16:45.10 | Lunessa | Hello to you my excellent friends. |
| 16:45.17 | Syzgyn | CRITERIA_UPDATE triggers any time any criteria is updated |
| 16:45.18 | Josh_Borke | yea, what Wikwocket beat me to |
| 16:45.33 | Syzgyn | which also happens to be any time you deal damage, take damage, heal, be healed, ect |
| 16:45.50 | Syzgyn | The downside is it doesnt tell you what is being updated |
| 16:45.58 | Josh_Borke | meh, how often does that really happen anyway? :-P |
| 16:46.10 | Dewin | For monster kills, if you wanted to be really efficient, PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED would 'work'... at the cost of not updating on a multi-mob fight until the last one is dead. |
| 16:46.14 | Josh_Borke | obviously the achievements system was not designed for real time update :-P |
| 16:46.31 | Wikwocket | Actually I would think OnUpdate is more spammy than the criteria update? |
| 16:46.43 | Syzgyn | GetStatistic() or GetAchievementInfo() have very little overhead I believe |
| 16:46.45 | Josh_Borke | Wikwocket: why? you just hide the frame when there is nothing to process |
| 16:47.28 | Wikwocket | I have just always been afraid of OnUpdate calls |
| 16:47.50 | Syzgyn | They can get bad quick, indeed |
| 16:47.55 | Syzgyn | but its still useful sometimes |
| 16:47.56 | zenzelezz | does each line in the statistics window get its own fontstring or something? |
| 16:48.07 | Syzgyn | Yeah |
| 16:48.10 | Lunessa | Shirik: Home yet, or still enjoying the Ca sunshine? |
| 16:48.12 | zenzelezz | hook its SetText? |
| 16:48.16 | Shirik | I'm home |
| 16:48.18 | Shirik | however |
| 16:48.18 | Syzgyn | Why? |
| 16:48.24 | Shirik | Lunessa, can you tell me something? |
| 16:48.32 | Lunessa | Something. |
| 16:48.36 | Syzgyn | 42! |
| 16:48.46 | Shirik | http://www.thunder-child.net/Misc/Blizzcon2008UIGroupLabeled.jpg |
| 16:49.21 | Syzgyn | At last! Faces to the names! |
| 16:49.24 | Shirik | I forget the word for my question |
| 16:49.24 | Shirik | crap |
| 16:49.31 | Duman | whee |
| 16:49.32 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 16:49.48 | Wikwocket | I was hoping someone would add in names, but in WoW style, with green names floating above their heads :) |
| 16:49.50 | Shirik | ethnicity! |
| 16:49.52 | Syzgyn | Haha |
| 16:49.53 | Shirik | What's my ethnicity? |
| 16:50.00 | zenzelezz | American |
| 16:50.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Freak |
| 16:50.10 | ScytheBlade1 | What? |
| 16:50.15 | Shirik | you suck |
| 16:50.18 | Duman | I'm a hybrid |
| 16:50.24 | ScytheBlade1 | It was too easy :P |
| 16:50.24 | Syzgyn | Hey shirik, how old are you? |
| 16:50.30 | ScytheBlade1 | And hahahahaha @ "I'm a hybrid" |
| 16:50.36 | Shirik | And why does everyone think I'm so young :( |
| 16:50.41 | Syzgyn | I'm curious |
| 16:50.43 | Maldivia | wow... 12 hour maintenance tomorrow |
| 16:50.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: well, because you look it |
| 16:50.47 | Syzgyn | ^ |
| 16:50.51 | sacarasc | Shirik: you look about 12 |
| 16:50.56 | Shirik | Reverse the numbers |
| 16:50.56 | Syzgyn | I was gonna say 16 |
| 16:51.04 | Duman | yeah I was gonna guess 16-17 |
| 16:51.10 | Shirik | yeah I'm 21 |
| 16:51.10 | Lunessa | Shirik: Are you Itallian-American? |
| 16:51.12 | Duman | but I can't judge age any more |
| 16:51.26 | Shirik | Lunessa: I was more referring to race, but... yes somehow you knew that |
| 16:51.42 | Shirik | People were telling me earlier when they were looking at that photo that I'm not white o.O |
| 16:51.48 | sacarasc | your race is 110m hurdles! |
| 16:51.52 | ScytheBlade1 | We have *another* background download |
| 16:51.54 | Syzgyn | Zing! |
| 16:51.57 | Shirik | p.s. I'm not racist I'm just saying I've never actually heard this before |
| 16:52.11 | Lunessa | Shirik: According to the US Census Bu. You'd be "Caucasian" or "White" |
| 16:52.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Another ~60 MB or so |
| 16:52.22 | Syzgyn | Wow duman, you're pretty much the tallest one in the pic |
| 16:52.30 | Shirik | he's pretty tall |
| 16:52.30 | Duman | yep |
| 16:52.33 | Syzgyn | Close with Cog |
| 16:52.38 | Syzgyn | how tall're you? |
| 16:52.38 | Shirik | but I'm sitting down and slouching; I'm not actually as short as I look :( |
| 16:52.43 | Syzgyn | lol |
| 16:52.46 | Duman | 6'4" |
| 16:52.53 | Syzgyn | A good height for sure :D |
| 16:53.04 | Duman | hehe |
| 16:53.24 | Lunessa | Actually, Cog looks taller in the photo than my memory says he should be. |
| 16:53.25 | Shirik | ha! I'm taller than ScytheBlade1 |
| 16:53.25 | Shirik | win |
| 16:53.40 | Shirik | yeah he does look a little taller in the photo, I agree |
| 16:53.41 | ScytheBlade1 | 5'11" isn't bad :P |
| 16:53.50 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd say that I'm actually 5'11.5" but I'm not actually a women ;) |
| 16:54.01 | Shirik | eh, no that's about right I guess |
| 16:54.03 | Lunessa | And all of you look young. |
| 16:54.07 | Shirik | because I'm around Esamynn's height |
| 16:54.13 | Shirik | and cog|away's just above es |
| 16:54.14 | Dewin | you're making me feel short and I'm 5'9 |
| 16:54.14 | Syzgyn | Slouken looks like he's still in his 20's >_> |
| 16:54.18 | Castigo | scythe shame on u then :P |
| 16:54.32 | Castigo | woman, wow addon developer |
| 16:54.35 | Shirik | cog's just above me, that is, therefore just above es |
| 16:54.35 | Duman | I think I was probably over the avg age |
| 16:54.37 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 16:54.37 | Lunessa | Except Alestane, who looks closer to my age/ |
| 16:54.38 | Castigo | is the dream of all us nerds |
| 16:54.39 | Duman | (in that photo) |
| 16:54.45 | |Jelly| | Lunessa's just old. Don't let him bring you guys down. |
| 16:54.46 | Shirik | Mean Lunessa! |
| 16:54.50 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 16:54.59 | Shirik | and yeah |
| 16:55.05 | Syzgyn | I expect I would have helped bring the avg age down then |
| 16:55.07 | Shirik | I was like the only person asked for ID at benihana's |
| 16:55.10 | Castigo | sctheask shirik! |
| 16:55.19 | Shirik | no I take that back, AnduinLothar was carded too |
| 16:55.19 | Lunessa | Did anyone click on Cogwheel to get the quest? What's the reward? |
| 16:55.20 | Syzgyn | haha |
| 16:55.28 | Syzgyn | Shirik: Enjoy it while it lasts? :P |
| 16:55.44 | |Jelly| | ...you don't wanna know, Lunessa. |
| 16:55.50 | Shirik | Lunessa: It lagged out for me |
| 16:55.52 | Duman | he was only handing out fedex quests |
| 16:55.55 | Lunessa | Notice they put all the ladies in the front row.... rawr! |
| 16:55.55 | Duman | so no turn-ins at him |
| 16:56.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: uh not quite :) |
| 16:56.13 | Lunessa | I lied. |
| 16:56.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: *points to the person standing next to cog* |
| 16:56.22 | Lunessa | Mrs. Cog is in the back next to Mr. Cog. |
| 16:56.38 | Shirik | she doesn't count because she's attached to Mr. Cog |
| 16:56.56 | Castigo | brb, checking if we got raid tonigh |
| 16:56.57 | Castigo | t |
| 16:57.09 | [SW]Dodge | ~seen codex |
| 16:57.12 | purl | codex <n=liorc@89-139-12-238.bb.netvision.net.il> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 394d 4h 49m 11s ago, saying: 'I want to add a directory that contains modules, and depmod to be aware of it's exsitance. How do I add a directory for depmod to scan for modules?'. |
| 16:57.36 | Dewin | codex? |
| 16:57.51 | [SW]Dodge | user codex from wowinterface.com ^^ |
| 16:57.52 | Dewin | Not *that* codex, is it? |
| 16:58.06 | Shirik | unlikely |
| 16:58.12 | Shirik | considering that was 394 days ago |
| 16:58.18 | Dewin | Good point. |
| 16:58.43 | Dewin | <-- has met Felicia Day in person. ;) |
| 16:58.44 | Josh_Borke | tmhat's only like a year and a month ago |
| 16:59.32 | ckknight | Dewin: did you groom her? |
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| 16:59.40 | Shirik | hi alestane! |
| 16:59.40 | ScytheBlade1 | ckknight: I was looking for that picture.. |
| 16:59.44 | Shirik | Lunessa was just making fun of you |
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| 16:59.48 | Shirik | you should kick him |
| 16:59.52 | Dewin | ckknight: No, I'm not whicheveroneofthemitwas from Penny Arcade |
| 16:59.58 | ckknight | Tycho Brahe |
| 17:00.05 | Lunessa | impact. |
| 17:00.06 | Dewin | Though... it was the same day that it happened :) |
| 17:00.17 | Dewin | and the same locale |
| 17:00.38 | ckknight | http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3126/2815622913_52cdb9c8cd.jpg |
| 17:00.43 | Dewin | Though... I didn't really start picking up PAX swag until towards the end |
| 17:00.49 | Syzgyn | Thats... kinda creepy |
| 17:01.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Bah you beat me to it |
| 17:01.10 | Duman | pahah |
| 17:01.16 | Syzgyn | Who is that? |
| 17:01.26 | Dewin | Felicia Day, I don't know who the guy is. |
| 17:01.29 | Syzgyn | No shit :P |
| 17:01.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Tycho from Penny Arcade |
| 17:01.41 | Syzgyn | Ah |
| 17:01.42 | Lunessa | Yeah. |
| 17:01.47 | Syzgyn | Still kinda creepy |
| 17:01.49 | Dewin | he really looks like that? Heh, didn't know. |
| 17:01.57 | ScytheBlade1 | sec |
| 17:02.02 | ScytheBlade1 | http://feliciaday.com/2008/09/penny-arcade-expowunderbar/ |
| 17:02.02 | Lunessa | And Felicia Day is dreamy. |
| 17:02.15 | ScytheBlade1 | "Tycho was especially nice and groomed me, something I?ve been waiting for since they posted this comic. I?m not as frightened as I look. It was an expert brushing." |
| 17:02.16 | |Jelly| | Ahh. The WoWMatrix rage ... rages on. |
| 17:03.21 | Wikwocket | |Jelly|: any new developments? |
| 17:03.43 | Dewin | Let's see... my PAX swag includes: collector's edition of Precipice of Darkness ep1, a "Support Piracy!" shirt (for Pirates of the Burning Sea MMO), several posters (including one for "Little Red Riding Hood's Zombie BBQ", just for lawls), aaand... wel, that's mostly it ;) |
| 17:04.09 | *** join/#wowuidev ShaneSveller (n=mellerfa@64-199-29-162.ip.mcleodusa.net) |
| 17:04.18 | Shirik | new developments: The new version of the MMOUI Manager will have a digital signature in an attempt to ensure WoWMatrix cannot leech from the same mechanism :) That's about all I can say right now |
| 17:04.29 | |Jelly| | Well, as much as I hate to say it, it seems that all developers are just spinning their wheels. As much as I'd love to see everyone that uses it [WoWMatrix] cease, it's just not going to happen due to selfishness and laziness so trying to reason with the end user, in my opinion, is pointless. |
| 17:04.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: good to know that you're FINALLY doing what I told you to do! ;) |
| 17:04.54 | Shirik | there are some other fun things in it, but I'm not going to say anything |
| 17:05.03 | Shirik | Well I'll say one more thing |
| 17:05.15 | |Jelly| | Can it be 57.68882% more sexy? |
| 17:05.19 | Dewin | The solution to WoWMatrix, IMHO, is to come up with something that does the same thing for the user that still manages to support addon authors/sites that host. |
| 17:05.34 | Shirik | While I won't make it work for other sites (i.e., Curse), it would theoretically possible for Curse staff or other users to create modules for it that will make it work for those sites |
| 17:05.48 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 17:05.51 | Shirik | whether or not that will be done, only time will tell |
| 17:06.13 | Wikwocket | Is MMOUI Manager a new project? |
| 17:06.14 | |Jelly| | ~hug ckknight |
| 17:06.15 | purl | ACTION hugs ckknight tightly until ckknight turns slightly blue |
| 17:06.20 | ckknight | hey |Jelly| |
| 17:06.22 | Shirik | It's the replacement for WoWI's manager |
| 17:06.40 | Shirik | which is finally out of design stage |
| 17:06.43 | ckknight | wowinterface => wow.mmoui |
| 17:06.46 | |Jelly| | And I assume it still is going to force a Favorites list? |
| 17:06.46 | Wikwocket | I find this idea interesting and wish to subscribe to your newsletter |
| 17:06.51 | ckknight | it'll allow them to have war.mmoui and other stuff, too |
| 17:06.52 | ckknight | makes good sense |
| 17:07.01 | Duman | yeah |
| 17:07.02 | Shirik | no it won't |Jelly| |
| 17:07.04 | Syzgyn | IMO Updating addons every freaking day is overrated and unnecessary |
| 17:07.30 | |Jelly| | Thank god. That's the only thing that kept me with WAU (until of course, it now tells me to DIAF every time I try to use it :P) |
| 17:07.30 | Josh_Borke | Syzgyn: no shit! |
| 17:07.36 | Dewin | Depends on the addons |
| 17:07.40 | Syzgyn | No |
| 17:07.43 | Syzgyn | it really doesn't |
| 17:07.49 | Duman | meh |
| 17:07.53 | ScytheBlade1 | ckknight: who was it that I needed to bug about my account(s)? |
| 17:07.58 | Dewin | Szygyn: A beta addon that you're watching the development of is likely something you may want to update every day if not sooner |
| 17:08.06 | |Jelly| | But updating ~300 mods every month can be trying and a pain in the ass. |
| 17:08.15 | Wikwocket | Is there a URL for MMOUI Manager, or is it still being worked on privately? |
| 17:08.18 | Syzgyn | |Jelly|: Agreed |
| 17:08.21 | ScytheBlade1 | It's not done yet |
| 17:08.24 | ScytheBlade1 | So it's not public |
| 17:08.24 | Shirik | The URL is my laptop right now |
| 17:08.30 | Josh_Borke | |Jelly|: that's a lot of mods |
| 17:08.31 | |Jelly| | (every month being an arbitrary date. i haven't updated my addons in quite some time) |
| 17:08.37 | Syzgyn | Dewin: then watch the svn or log or whatever of that individual mod |
| 17:08.44 | Shirik | It's accessible from svn://mpdelbuonolp/mmouimgr/trunk if you can break into my network |
| 17:08.55 | Dewin | brb sending commands to my botnet |
| 17:09.19 | |Jelly| | Josh_Borke: Truth be told, I haven't cleaned out my addons folder from back when I would make 2-3 UIs a week so I have a lot of addons that do the same thing over and over again. |
| 17:09.22 | Nom- | Update fun & games tomorrow |
| 17:09.25 | Dewin | j/k of course |
| 17:09.25 | Nom- | we |
| 17:09.26 | Nom- | e |
| 17:09.36 | Shirik | There will be a URL when it's at something visible. Last time it was kept private because it was something internal. This time I intend to make the development process more public |
| 17:10.02 | Wikwocket | Well, looking forward to hearing more about it |
| 17:10.10 | Nom- | Shirik: New Java app ? |
| 17:10.45 | Shirik | it is indeed in Java. It needs to be cross-platform and other languages would be a little more work (albeit possible) |
| 17:10.48 | Nom- | Shirik: If you need developers, I might be able to put some time in ... I'm more web focused though (Spring + Hibernate) |
| 17:11.23 | Josh_Borke | |Jelly|: stuff like that just bothers me |
| 17:11.30 | Josh_Borke | multiple addons doing the same thing... |
| 17:11.47 | |Jelly| | (they're not turned on) |
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| 17:11.55 | |Jelly| | I'm currently using Caith 10.5's WTF |
| 17:11.56 | Josh_Borke | even just being there :-P |
| 17:12.04 | |Jelly| | fair enough |
| 17:12.18 | Syzgyn | |Jelly|: I have the same thing.. lots of mods that arent even turned on just sitting there :P |
| 17:12.32 | Syzgyn | I'm using the patch tomorrow as an excuse to start from scratch |
| 17:12.33 | Shirik | shower brb |
| 17:12.45 | Shirik|AFK | Syzgyn: Might as well :) |
| 17:12.48 | Shirik|AFK | btw do we have a mirror at all? |
| 17:13.01 | Shirik|AFK | apt is evil |
| 17:13.04 | Shirik|AFK | portage! |
| 17:13.09 | |Jelly| | Yeah. I'm going to try to salvage as much of Caith as I can simply because I'm used to it now ... and I like it's setup. |
| 17:13.12 | Dewin | portage would work too |
| 17:13.21 | Dewin | It's more the dependency solving and package database I'd go for |
| 17:13.27 | Shirik|AFK | what if we all just started putting all wow addons on portage |
| 17:13.34 | Shirik|AFK | I wonder what Gentoo would say |
| 17:13.46 | Syzgyn | Who was saying there was another BG downloader patch? |
| 17:13.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Dewin: no, and go screw yourself. That'd mean that we'd either have to symlink our addon directory into the central addon repo, or something equally hacky. |
| 17:13.49 | Josh_Borke | why not yum? |
| 17:13.51 | Dewin | emerge wow-addons? |
| 17:13.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Syzgyn: me |
| 17:14.19 | Shirik|AFK | how do I start the bg downloader? |
| 17:14.19 | Dewin | Scythe: Well. |
| 17:14.29 | Dewin | What I REALLY want |
| 17:14.30 | Lunessa | BTW ... Seera's TipTop is pretty sweet. |
| 17:14.39 | Shirik|AFK | tiptop? |
| 17:14.51 | Syzgyn | ScytheBlade1: Is it not active yet? |
| 17:14.51 | Dewin | is, say, a config file that you can include with addons that gives instructions on how/where to get updates to that addon |
| 17:15.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Syzgyn: it is. Open your launcher |
| 17:15.08 | ShaneSveller | Shirik|AFK: I use TipTop as well, replaced CowTip with it so as to avoid DogTags and Rock |
| 17:15.09 | Syzgyn | I just did |
| 17:15.14 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got 1.17GB total to download |
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| 17:15.23 | Lunessa | It's a tooltip addon she wrote. Lightweight, feature rich and aesthetically pleasing. |
| 17:15.39 | Dewin | repositories like wowi and curse could add it for addons that aren't already there (pointing to their own site) or authors who are picky could include it for theirs |
| 17:15.51 | ScytheBlade1 | I mean as to where it would install them on the system |
| 17:16.03 | ScytheBlade1 | ie, I keep WoW in ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/World of Warcraft/ |
| 17:16.07 | Dewin | heck it could be in the form of comments in the TOC |
| 17:16.11 | Shirik|AFK | There is not enough disk space to complete the download. Please make an additional 1.06GB available and try again. |
| 17:16.24 | Duman | pwned |
| 17:16.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Pretty sure if apt installed addons to my home directory, something would be broken. |
| 17:16.28 | Duman | delete some pr0n |
| 17:16.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Or some java! |
| 17:16.56 | Shirik|AFK | or WoWMatrix |
| 17:17.04 | Shirik|AFK | as I almost accidentally delete the boot folder, wow |
| 17:17.09 | Syzgyn | SBO: I have the same total, downloaded last night |
| 17:17.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Syzgyn: then you beat me to it |
| 17:17.38 | Syzgyn | You made me think there was yet another one :P |
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| 17:20.42 | [SW]Dodge | |Yssaril|: ping |
| 17:22.09 | Castigo | scythe i got more than that to download |
| 17:22.12 | Castigo | tho it's pr0n |
| 17:22.19 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 17:22.22 | Castigo | and yes |
| 17:22.23 | Castigo | i am baaack |
| 17:22.24 | Castigo | no raid |
| 17:22.26 | Castigo | just ui development |
| 17:22.57 | Castigo | nom wanna fix mine too pl0x pl0x pl0x pl0x? |
| 17:23.17 | Nom- | lol |
| 17:23.29 | Nom- | I should be going to bed, but i've had too much caffeine :) |
| 17:23.50 | batrick | man |
| 17:24.22 | batrick | i was hoping for some updates on mmo-champ by now but have been sorely disappointed |
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| 17:24.35 | Nom- | There hasn't been any patches... |
| 17:24.39 | Castigo | Nom, why tomorrow btw? |
| 17:24.41 | Lunessa | Looking at the BlizzCon2008 group photo... Zooty has ink! He's hardcore! |
| 17:24.43 | Castigo | wednesday u mean |
| 17:24.49 | batrick | i was hoping for some random blue quote |
| 17:24.50 | batrick | like |
| 17:24.57 | batrick | they're deleting druids and warlocks |
| 17:25.00 | batrick | that'd brighten my day |
| 17:25.05 | Castigo | oh shite, usa gets update on |
| 17:25.08 | Castigo | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:25.13 | Nom- | well depends on how late I stay up tomorrow :P |
| 17:25.45 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.savagechickens.com/2008/10/happiness.html |
| 17:25.57 | Nom- | But patch comes tomorrow, regardless of whether servers are up... i'm sure the hammering will commence soon after to update all addons |
| 17:26.18 | Syzgyn | ^^ |
| 17:26.29 | ShaneSveller | that's why i thank the FSM that i got a beta key and have already built my 3.0 UI to taste on there. |
| 17:26.33 | Syzgyn | At least I have my beta addons already downloaded |
| 17:26.37 | ShaneSveller | also easily done on PTR |
| 17:26.39 | Syzgyn | they work in the mean time |
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| 17:28.44 | Fisker- | They did it! |
| 17:28.48 | Fisker- | After 3½ day |
| 17:30.57 | Dewin | I hope PTR and beta stays up after the patch |
| 17:30.57 | Duman | beta will |
| 17:31.08 | Dewin | It's nice to have a place to test addon development where nothing is permanent |
| 17:31.43 | Duman | I doubt ptr will stay up, unless they have a 3.0.3 they want to test right away :) |
| 17:32.15 | Dewin | it's possible that with all the prep they're doing for the expansion anyways that won't bother to shut it off? |
| 17:32.17 | Shirik|AFK | anyway, yay for 14 hours of downloading |
| 17:32.25 | Shirik|AFK | if anyone hasn't actually started downloading the patch I would advise it |
| 17:32.34 | Duman | did they add more? |
| 17:32.36 | Josh_Borke | how? |
| 17:32.39 | Dewin | Predownloaded already, unless there's another chunk |
| 17:32.40 | Duman | I have lke 1.x GB of stuff already |
| 17:32.52 | Nom- | Apparently enabling your addon makes it easier to determine if it works or not. |
| 17:32.55 | Shirik|AFK | -to-3.0.2-TBC-enUS-Stage3 |
| 17:33.00 | Nom- | That's my little nugget of wisdom for the day. |
| 17:33.01 | Duman | STAGE3 |
| 17:33.05 | Duman | how big is the total, shirik |
| 17:33.10 | Shirik|AFK | 1.17GB |
| 17:33.15 | Duman | ahh, not much added then |
| 17:33.39 | Shirik|AFK | Josh_Borke: In your WoW folder you will find a "BackgroundDownloader.exe" |
| 17:33.40 | Shirik|AFK | just run that |
| 17:33.47 | Josh_Borke | liar! |
| 17:33.49 | Josh_Borke | besides |
| 17:33.51 | Josh_Borke | i'm not at home |
| 17:33.51 | Shirik|AFK | if it says nothing is available, start up launcher.exe first |
| 17:34.13 | Josh_Borke | ugh, 3 instances of wow to fix it up on |
| 17:34.16 | Josh_Borke | make that 4 |
| 17:34.27 | sacarasc | what is the/is there a macro command to destroy an item? |
| 17:34.34 | Shirik|AFK | well you should only need to download it once, Josh_Borke |
| 17:34.40 | Shirik|AFK | then copy the update across computers |
| 17:36.42 | Duman | sacar: pretty sure you can do it... just with a 2-step macro (pick up, delete) |
| 17:36.45 | Fisker- | rawr |
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| 17:36.50 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 17:36.55 | Fisker- | ours is 1.57GB |
| 17:36.55 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 17:37.01 | Duman | but you might still get the confirmation box for "good" stuff |
| 17:37.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik|AFK: java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: Array index out of range: 1 |
| 17:37.52 | ScytheBlade1 | ~failrik |
| 17:37.53 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 17:37.56 | Shirik|AFK | ScytheBlade1: Stop going out of bounds |
| 17:38.04 | ScytheBlade1 | NOU |
| 17:38.17 | Shirik|AFK | obviously your array is only size 1 or 0 |
| 17:38.25 | ScytheBlade1 | That's your code :) |
| 17:38.28 | sacarasc | Duman: could you spell it out for me? (i'm a newb at this stuff :D) |
| 17:38.29 | Shirik|AFK | oh |
| 17:38.34 | Shirik|AFK | is that the old updater? |
| 17:38.42 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:38.48 | Duman | I don't actualyl recall (or know, off the top of my head) the calls, sorry -/ |
| 17:38.49 | Duman | :-/ |
| 17:38.56 | Shirik|AFK | can I have the whole call stack? |
| 17:39.03 | Shirik|AFK | there should be an error.log file |
| 17:39.14 | Nom- | yay almost working :) |
| 17:39.20 | Duman | you can try asking on the UI forum, I'm sure someone will know :) |
| 17:39.28 | Shirik|AFK | ah yes |
| 17:39.31 | Duman | or someone else here, if they feel like responding ;) |
| 17:39.33 | Shirik|AFK | do you know how much I hated that function, ScytheBlade1? |
| 17:39.36 | Shirik|AFK | That was so much of a hack omg |
| 17:39.45 | Lunessa | Painful, sad truths... http://xkcd.com/488/ |
| 17:39.50 | Shirik|AFK | That was for addons like Auctioneer |
| 17:39.51 | Fisker- | ~kiss Fisker- |
| 17:39.51 | purl | ACTION forces Fisker- to give Arrowmaster a big kiss on the ear |
| 17:39.54 | Fisker- | it was awsum Lunessa |
| 17:39.55 | Shirik|AFK | I'm not surprised it broke |
| 17:40.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik|AFK: see PM |
| 17:40.32 | Nom- | hmm ... it seems my PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD call isn't getting calendar data :( |
| 17:40.42 | ScytheBlade1 | !!! 2008-09-13_11-34-02-882> System Panic! Uncaught exception in Main.f.ExecuteUpdate() |
| 17:40.45 | ScytheBlade1 | smooth |
| 17:40.55 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 17:41.06 | Shirik|AFK | wow, holy hell. It tried to delete the same folder about 20 times |
| 17:41.20 | foxlit | Lunessa: only if you're constrained by the DMCA :) |
| 17:41.22 | zenzelezz | terminate, with extreme prejudice |
| 17:41.24 | haste | working as intneded! |
| 17:41.24 | ShaneSveller | Nom-: is that data avialable by that event? or does it need to wait till PLAYER_LOGIN? |
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| 17:42.06 | ScytheBlade1 | I see that now |
| 17:42.11 | Lunessa | foxlit: I believe in IP rights - and it makes my head ache trying to figure out how to be fair and right to everyone. |
| 17:42.17 | Nom- | I'llt ry player login... it *used* to work on ENTERING_WORLD |
| 17:42.41 | Shirik|AFK | ScytheBlade1: If you do want me to fix it |
| 17:42.48 | Shirik|AFK | start up the program with command line argument -verbose |
| 17:42.52 | Nom- | not even available at PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 17:42.55 | Shirik|AFK | or maybe --verbose |
| 17:42.56 | Shirik|AFK | I forget |
| 17:43.06 | Nom- | So i need to schedule something to happen well after login |
| 17:43.07 | Nom- | bleh |
| 17:43.14 | Shirik|AFK | Then look for a verbose.log file in the same place as the error.log file and get that to me when you can |
| 17:43.16 | Shirik|AFK | I need to take a shower |
| 17:43.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik|AFK: only if you're looking to actually fix it |
| 17:43.28 | Shirik|AFK | not particularly |
| 17:43.32 | Shirik|AFK | I hate that function so much |
| 17:43.36 | Shirik|AFK | soooooooooo much |
| 17:43.47 | ZealotOnAStick | If you have a torrent client, you can get the new backgroundownloader, which should stick a torrent file in your wow/cache folder, and simply use your bittorrent client to download the update (or new portions of) vastly faster than the background downloader. |
| 17:44.00 | Shirik|AFK | the whole "dependent" idea was bad overall |
| 17:44.08 | Shirik|AFK | though I'm still not sure how to address that |
| 17:44.11 | Shirik|AFK | but I'll get to that later |
| 17:44.19 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 17:44.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Then don't worry |
| 17:44.32 | Shirik|AFK | well I have to worry about it in the new version :) |
| 17:44.39 | Shirik|AFK | Auctioneer still has multiple folders for one addon |
| 17:44.40 | Shirik|AFK | so... |
| 17:44.50 | ScytheBlade1 | I mean about fixing this bug |
| 17:45.00 | Shirik|AFK | yes in theory it will disappear |
| 17:45.02 | Shirik|AFK | in the new version |
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| 17:46.05 | Nom- | Must have to hook PLAYER_ALIVE |
| 17:46.37 | sylvanaar | what is "Dependent" |
| 17:47.18 | Nom- | oh ... it's even easier |
| 17:47.30 | ShaneSveller | Nom-: could you have it load with blizz's calendar code? |
| 17:47.30 | Nom- | Looks like the main event i want to hook fires on intial login |
| 17:47.31 | Nom- | woot |
| 17:47.57 | Nom- | CALENDAR_UPDATE_EVENT_LIST <-- fires upon first login |
| 17:48.46 | Fisker- | Shirik|AFK |
| 17:48.51 | Fisker- | i want to add my goo to you |
| 17:49.02 | Syzgyn | hawt |
| 17:49.04 | ShaneSveller | Nom-: nice |
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| 17:51.13 | Castigo | brb |
| 17:57.40 | Shirik|AFK | sooo |
| 17:57.52 | Shirik | has anyone else noticed the lack of bot attacks lately? |
| 17:57.56 | batrick | So I have this button that casts a spell on successive targets out of combat. I change the target (unit attribute) in my postclick handler, however the target does not update until after (randomly) a couple casts later or if i reenter the button itself. Any ideas how to fix this? |
| 17:58.39 | Shirik | postclick? |
| 17:58.43 | Shirik | is that secure? I forget |
| 17:58.45 | Nom- | *ponder* ... so it seems that this current implementation doesn't work so well :( |
| 17:59.16 | Nom- | Should it be safe to fire off requests for multiple items which return an event when the information is avialable ? |
| 17:59.31 | Nom- | Or do you have to wait-send-wait-send etc |
| 18:00.18 | foxlit | Shirik: everything is secure until you touch it! |
| 18:00.33 | Shirik | mean :( |
| 18:00.52 | batrick | well im changing it ooc so it shouldnt' matter right? |
| 18:00.58 | foxlit | ~framexml |
| 18:00.59 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/ |
| 18:01.15 | Shirik | yes it shouldn't matter |
| 18:02.14 | batrick | when i was using an OnClick handler my button wouldn't work at all, so i was forced to switch to PostClick, but alas it won't change targets immediately |
| 18:02.15 | Nom- | seems i'm firing off 3 requests but getting just 2 responses, so it must be a whole must-throttle thing :( |
| 18:02.52 | Fisker- | Yeah Shirik they were busy blizzconning |
| 18:02.53 | Fisker- | :P |
| 18:03.11 | cladhaire | batrick: I have an addon that does just that (only it sets it on preclick, handles it in the template's onclick and clears it on postclick) |
| 18:03.14 | cladhaire | and it works just fine each time |
| 18:04.00 | batrick | ok I'll give that a try |
| 18:04.05 | Fisker- | cladhaire can you help me with my goo? |
| 18:04.15 | Dewin | silly me, thinking the checkbox template came bundled with the label for the checkbox. >.> |
| 18:04.19 | batrick | would you know how to get the GameTooltip to update as well? it seems to suffer from the same problem |
| 18:04.19 | cladhaire | Fisker-: is it sexy goo? |
| 18:04.25 | Fisker- | nah it's black |
| 18:04.25 | foxlit | Dewin: it does. |
| 18:04.26 | batrick | in fact it updates alongside the button |
| 18:04.28 | Fisker- | but sometimes white |
| 18:04.28 | foxlit | it is. |
| 18:04.30 | Fisker- | and sometimes green |
| 18:04.32 | Fisker- | but usually black |
| 18:04.36 | cladhaire | batrick: I haven't messed with that at all, perhaps its part of the issue? |
| 18:04.43 | cladhaire | what you want is really simple, so I'd start with the simplest case |
| 18:04.46 | batrick | seems so because they update together |
| 18:04.48 | Dewin | foxlit: Nothing shows, and the checkbox scales to the entire area. |
| 18:05.06 | foxlit | You're doing it wrong(tm) :) |
| 18:05.12 | Dewin | so I've noticed |
| 18:06.16 | Dewin | wow. |
| 18:06.24 | Dewin | OptionsFrameTemplates.xml broke my text editor's XML formatting |
| 18:06.44 | Pytlask | o.O how? |
| 18:07.29 | Dewin | big chunk of text went unformatted for some reason |
| 18:12.10 | Nom- | hmm there must be other addons which have to do async polling of a particular API method... do they have to throttle too? |
| 18:13.07 | Lunessa | New office computer being delivered WOOO! |
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| 18:15.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Xinhuan: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10971929880&pageNo=1&sid=1#5 |
| 18:15.46 | Xinhuan | hehe |
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| 18:18.14 | NeoTron | purl: that was random |
| 18:18.24 | cladhaire | NeoTron: OnJoin for kamdis |
| 18:18.37 | kamdis | what now? |
| 18:18.38 | Dewin | wtb fixed bejeweled addon :) |
| 18:18.46 | kamdis | lol |
| 18:18.48 | kamdis | that's hilarious |
| 18:18.52 | NeoTron | ScytheBlade1: so I know that issue was noticed in early beta, surprising it gets no notice until now |
| 18:18.53 | kamdis | i didn't even notice |
| 18:19.03 | NeoTron | cladhaire: ah I don't have join/part messages showing |
| 18:19.10 | cladhaire | :P |
| 18:19.17 | kamdis | "purl~~~ you will install bejeweled ~~~" |
| 18:20.35 | |Jelly| | WOOT! Last bear attempt (for me ever) and the group fails too much. |
| 18:20.38 | Dewin | I like how there is no mention of the bejeweled addon on Popcap's site. |
| 18:21.08 | NeoTron | |Jelly|: grats |
| 18:21.20 | |Jelly| | Hoe hard is it to collapse on the bird boss? Really. |
| 18:21.26 | |Jelly| | s/Hoe/How/ |
| 18:21.26 | kneeki | |Jelly|: What class do you play? |
| 18:21.40 | |Jelly| | Currently? I'm the MT paladin. |
| 18:22.02 | kamdis | It's only hard when people are retards. |
| 18:22.13 | kamdis | no offense to actual mentally challenged folks. |
| 18:22.24 | Syzgyn | We're hoping to sell a bear for 20k today :) |
| 18:22.26 | kneeki | |Jelly|: ooo, I'm a prot pally also! Do you know what the min unbuffed HP is for a prot pally in ZA? |
| 18:22.46 | |Jelly| | I have 16.1k unbuffed |
| 18:22.54 | kneeki | Do you know the minimum? |
| 18:22.59 | |Jelly| | no? |
| 18:23.05 | Shirik | kamdis didn't come to blizzcon :( |
| 18:23.14 | Lukian | kneeki, 18k+ buffed |
| 18:23.14 | kneeki | I'm at 14.1k, and was told that was not night enough to off tank ZA =\ |
| 18:23.17 | ScytheBlade1 | NeoTron: not at all actually. Xinhuan bugged Iriel who sent mail off to the people in power. I was expecting it. |
| 18:23.20 | kneeki | Lukian: Hah |
| 18:23.37 | Xinhuan | actually i've been bugging lots of ppl |
| 18:23.40 | Lukian | kneeki, you also need to be uncrushable i think :p |
| 18:23.43 | selckin | my warlock has 16k hp |
| 18:23.44 | selckin | i'll tank za |
| 18:23.49 | ScytheBlade1 | kamdis: the question remains: DID YOU INSTALL BEJEWELED? |
| 18:23.56 | kneeki | Lukian: Well of course. Which I am =) |
| 18:26.04 | cladhaire | hrm, I am having uber weird framelevel issues >< |
| 18:26.35 | zenzelezz | stay away from über weird framelevels, problem solved |
| 18:26.57 | NeoTron | |Jelly|: very hard |
| 18:27.14 | NeoTron | Syzgyn: we've tried but so far failed |
| 18:27.30 | Syzgyn | Tried what? |
| 18:27.37 | Kraps | how do i make something linkable in a macro? |
| 18:27.38 | |Jelly| | Three wipes. One boss. GG bear. |
| 18:28.34 | Kraps | yo... |
| 18:28.55 | NeoTron | Syzgyn: sell a bear run.. for 18k |
| 18:29.21 | kamdis | ScytheBlade1: No! |
| 18:29.22 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10972023201&sid=1 15k on my server |
| 18:29.28 | Syzgyn | Ah. We've sold one at 10k, I believe thats max |
| 18:29.59 | Pytlask | was going for about 25k on my server about a month ago >< |
| 18:30.26 | Syzgyn | Thats kinda insane |
| 18:30.37 | Kraps | ??? |
| 18:30.40 | Syzgyn | We were selling for 6k for a long time |
| 18:30.49 | Syzgyn | horde side were selling for 8 |
| 18:31.02 | kamdis | And so the patch addon QQ begins http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10972033544&sid=1 |
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| 18:33.17 | Syzgyn | Rofl |
| 18:33.45 | Syzgyn | Waaah make the UI do what addons do waaaah |
| 18:34.16 | kamdis | never mind that allowing addons in the first place is really generous. |
| 18:35.04 | kamdis | I can't even bear to reply to that person. |
| 18:35.21 | Syzgyn | Or that the authors bust their asses getting stuff up in time after major patches |
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| 18:36.51 | kamdis | Seriously. |
| 18:37.45 | Shirik | holy crap |
| 18:37.50 | Shirik | "USB Hub power exceeded" |
| 18:38.05 | Shirik | "The device you inserted exceeded the power requirements of the USB port. Please try another port." |
| 18:38.06 | Lopeppeppy | Jesus crackers, Shirik. |
| 18:38.12 | Shirik | never seen that before |
| 18:38.35 | Lopeppeppy | Stop plugging your nuclear reactor into your PC, okay darlin? |
| 18:38.43 | Shirik | Well my keyboard has several USB ports on it |
| 18:38.50 | Shirik | so I just plug everything into the keyboard |
| 18:38.52 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, i has seen that lots of times |
| 18:38.54 | Shirik | I guess it finally became too much |
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| 18:42.05 | |Jelly| | Get a better keyboard? Perhaps one with it's own AC plug? |
| 18:42.07 | |Jelly| | JEEZ! |
| 18:42.19 | Lopeppeppy | Get a desktop nuclear reactor. *laughs* |
| 18:42.24 | |Jelly| | Agreed. |
| 18:42.26 | ZealotOnAStick | Mr Fusion. |
| 18:42.34 | ZealotOnAStick | Which was apparently a coffee grinder. |
| 18:43.36 | Shirik | CRAP! |
| 18:43.37 | Shirik | Tem! |
| 18:43.44 | Shirik | You don't have text messaging enabled on your phone? |
| 18:43.47 | Tem | nope |
| 18:43.52 | Shirik | No wonder you never responded to the dozens of things I sent you |
| 18:43.54 | Lopeppeppy | Hai2U |
| 18:44.00 | Tem | Shirik, ? |
| 18:44.10 | Shirik | Like the one at 3 in the morning when I was asking where you ended up after I locked you out |
| 18:44.17 | Syzgyn | kamdis: I replied to that post |
| 18:44.18 | Shirik | or when I was trying to give you a key on saturday |
| 18:44.19 | Tem | oh lawl |
| 18:44.23 | Shirik | er, friday |
| 18:44.32 | Nom- | Is there any way to turn on debugging? I'm getting that 'Interface action failed' error :( |
| 18:44.33 | Tem | l2phonecall |
| 18:45.04 | kamdis | Syzgyn: nice :) |
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| 18:46.19 | Nom- | and my taintlog is empty |
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| 18:46.19 | Nom- | qq |
| 18:46.54 | ScytheBlade1 | kamdis: install the addon! |
| 18:47.02 | Nom- | qq recursion causes tain? |
| 18:47.04 | Nom- | *taint |
| 18:47.27 | kamdis | ~whaleslap ScytheBlade1 |
| 18:47.27 | purl | ACTION beats ScytheBlade1 upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 18:47.33 | ScytheBlade1 | ~whaleshield |
| 18:47.34 | purl | ACTION summons a rather dense leaden whale named Billy Bob to shield scytheblade1 from the blast. |
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| 18:52.55 | Shirik | ... |
| 18:53.00 | Shirik | I have this stupid song stuck in my head |
| 18:53.03 | Shirik | it's from like the 60s |
| 18:53.09 | foxlit | So what's the consensus on figuring out which companion is on the cursor? |
| 18:53.37 | foxlit | It's incredible that 3.0.2 is going to go live with this "spell", 0, "spell" bs. |
| 18:53.58 | Nom- | *sigh* I give up I think |
| 18:54.07 | Nom- | It's so damn closed, i'm just getting a taint error, and I've no idea what from |
| 18:54.16 | Shirik | foxlit: What do you mean? |
| 18:54.38 | foxlit | Pick up a companion, placing it onto the cursor. Dump GetCursorInfo() |
| 18:54.55 | foxlit | It returns "spell", 0, "spell", which tells you... well, that there's maybe a companion on the cursor. |
| 18:55.45 | Shirik | lol |
| 18:56.16 | Wikwocket | GetCursorInfo() isn't new in 3.0, is it? I can't believe I missed that when writing my mod |
| 18:56.34 | foxlit | no, it isn't. |
| 18:56.52 | End | The action bar Get info function returns "spell", 0, "spell" as well |
| 18:57.05 | End | fortunately you can get tooltip information there |
| 18:57.11 | End | dunno how you'll handle cursor though |
| 18:57.36 | Shirik | Interface/AddOns/!BugGrabber/WowMatrix.dat - 91 b |
| 18:57.36 | Nom- | Talk to yas tomorrow... buggered if I know how to fix this one :( |
| 18:57.43 | Shirik | presence of that file should be sufficient to allow me not to approve it |
| 18:57.44 | Shirik | :( |
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| 18:58.07 | Wikwocket | Sheesh, I've had a hook to record an itemname as you pick it up since WoW 1.x, I feel stupid for missing GetCursorInfo()! |
| 18:58.34 | Shirik | ~hug Wikwocket |
| 18:58.34 | purl | ACTION hugs Wikwocket |
| 18:58.47 | End | it was added in one of the content patches pre-TBC I think |
| 19:00.13 | Wikwocket | Well, an excuse to release a patch after 3.0.x I guess |
| 19:00.27 | Kraps | win http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10972113694&sid=1 |
| 19:00.37 | Kraps | Bornakk |
| 19:01.13 | ShaneSveller | man I can't wait for dual-specs. |
| 19:01.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Too bad we're not getting them tomorrow. |
| 19:01.41 | Dewin | blargh why do my OptionsCheckButtonTemplate checkboxes have no text. >.> |
| 19:01.57 | ShaneSveller | ScytheBlade1: yeah, first content patch post-wotlk, right? |
| 19:02.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Supposedly |
| 19:02.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't think there has been any official word |
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| 19:02.40 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Iriel] by ChanServ |
| 19:02.41 | Lopeppeppy | There never is or will be, just Real Soon Now (tm). :) |
| 19:02.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy wins |
| 19:03.16 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr. |
| 19:03.17 | Dewin | Real Soon Now(tm): 10 years, or the consecutive terms of 2 US presidents, whichever is greater. See also Any Day Now(tm) |
| 19:03.45 | End | ~rsn |
| 19:03.45 | purl | it has been said that rsn is Real Soon Now |
| 19:03.53 | End | lame, purl needed a witty quote |
| 19:03.58 | End | that's not witty at all! |
| 19:04.29 | kamdis | They did say "shortly after the expansion" |
| 19:04.35 | kamdis | which means, probably next year? |
| 19:04.47 | Dewin | Any Day Now(tm): Possibly tomorrow, but likely on February 29th. |
| 19:04.59 | ScytheBlade1 | kamdis: wow, way to depress me |
| 19:05.20 | mikma | what's the extended maintenance? |
| 19:05.28 | ScytheBlade1 | 12 hours |
| 19:05.29 | ShaneSveller | mikma: 3.0, woot |
| 19:05.34 | Industrial | mg |
| 19:05.35 | Industrial | amg |
| 19:05.37 | ScytheBlade1 | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert |
| 19:05.44 | kamdis | That's what I'm here for, Sbo. |
| 19:05.44 | mikma | err |
| 19:05.54 | ScytheBlade1 | kamdis: know what I'm here for? |
| 19:06.02 | mikma | ShaneSveller: err, not likely |
| 19:06.33 | ShaneSveller | mikma: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=6178690374 how likely? |
| 19:06.43 | ScytheBlade1 | kamdis: hint: http://www.mediumurl.com/?r=069305927477641441751717034232 |
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| 19:06.54 | Shadowed | foxlit: You're basically screwed as far as I know |
| 19:07.07 | foxlit | Yeah, that's what I think as well |
| 19:08.00 | mikma | umm humm |
| 19:08.01 | Shadowed | Blizzard already has confirmed 3.0.2 like 50 times mikma |
| 19:08.09 | Dewin | mediumurl? That's a new one. |
| 19:08.20 | sylvanaar | Shadowed thas what i have been saying |
| 19:08.23 | mikma | on live servers before initial launch? :P |
| 19:08.38 | ShaneSveller | mikma: yeah |
| 19:08.50 | kamdis | Whatever that is, I'm not DLing it! |
| 19:08.59 | kamdis | And I'm pretty sure I know what it is |
| 19:09.01 | foxlit | Wonder what took up all of the UI team's beta time :) |
| 19:09.02 | mikma | ok |
| 19:09.06 | ScytheBlade1 | kamdis: should just click the link. |
| 19:09.06 | ShaneSveller | kamdis: it rhymes with "ruled" |
| 19:09.10 | mikma | then it's time to test beta client in live servers, lol |
| 19:09.12 | kamdis | also, I'm not on my WoW comp. |
| 19:09.27 | kamdis | some of us work, despite the holiday :( |
| 19:09.30 | Wikwocket | http://www.mediumurl.com ? What's next, http://www.alphabeticonlyurl.com? http://www.novowelsurl.com? |
| 19:09.31 | foxlit | Was it the mount UI? Was it the new restricted execution environments? Did they all take a holiday to go deep-sea fishing or something? |
| 19:09.39 | End | mikma: probably not going to be the same build |
| 19:09.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Wikwocket: I own mediumurl.com and averageurl.com, among others |
| 19:09.53 | mikma | End: but it will get the latest patch too? just like regular wow |
| 19:09.59 | mikma | we'll see :) |
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| 19:10.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Wikwocket: although my friend initially owned mediumurl.com and was just going to let it expire. I didn't want it to go to the domain thiefs so I took it off of his hands. |
| 19:10.20 | End | I'm kinda curious how they do version checking |
| 19:10.34 | End | is it just by build number? |
| 19:10.38 | End | or is it the entire string? |
| 19:10.55 | Wikwocket | ScytheBlade1: Cool deal. Does it get a lot of use? |
| 19:10.57 | End | come to think of it, they're using 3.x anyways |
| 19:10.58 | ShaneSveller | End: you mean for your mod TOC? |
| 19:11.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Wikwocket: not really |
| 19:11.04 | End | no, I mean for login |
| 19:11.12 | End | "Unable to validate game version" |
| 19:11.12 | ScytheBlade1 | kamdis: you know you liked it! You know you want to! |
| 19:11.13 | End | :P |
| 19:16.04 | foxlit | New plan: get a death knight to dual wield the argent avenger and the blade of wizardry with the appropriate enchants. |
| 19:17.01 | foxlit | Hm, actually, that could be an evil quiz question. What do the argent avenger and the blade of wizardry have in common? |
| 19:17.22 | NightHawkTheSane | light sabers! |
| 19:18.36 | mikma | oh yeah, my friend actually tested the normal wow -> tbc trick before tbc was released |
| 19:18.45 | End | and? |
| 19:18.46 | mikma | the are checking is the account upgraded to expansion or not |
| 19:18.53 | End | well, that's of course |
| 19:19.02 | End | did the client itself work though? |
| 19:19.07 | mikma | i'll ask |
| 19:20.22 | mikma | he was able to log in, but wasn't able to go into new content |
| 19:20.44 | mikma | wasn't able to create new chars (paladins for horde, shaman for alliance) |
| 19:21.23 | End | That's about what I would have expected |
| 19:22.23 | Dewin | PTR is going down and I don't have a beta invite to continue developing my addon... lesigh |
| 19:22.36 | Duman | hmm |
| 19:22.52 | NeoTron | Dewin: you could... wait till tomorrow and develop on live! |
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| 19:23.04 | cladhaire | or roll on the eu servers :P |
| 19:23.14 | cladhaire | dunno if our ptr is going down, and cba to check |
| 19:23.15 | cladhaire | but :P |
| 19:23.29 | Fisker- | it is |
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| 19:23.31 | Fisker- | and owld news |
| 19:23.33 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 19:23.38 | Dewin | Patch goes live tomorrow, I'm pretty sure it's the final PTR shutdown ;) |
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| 19:23.42 | cladhaire | no |
| 19:23.43 | cladhaire | eu |
| 19:23.45 | cladhaire | does not go live tomorrow |
| 19:23.46 | cladhaire | nublet |
| 19:23.49 | Dewin | it doesn't? |
| 19:23.50 | cladhaire | no |
| 19:23.55 | cladhaire | we go down on wednesdays |
| 19:24.07 | Dewin | ah |
| 19:24.10 | cladhaire | Fisker-: I haven't logged into PTR.. I've had alpha/beta so its been pointless |
| 19:24.10 | Dewin | well |
| 19:24.14 | Dewin | I can't get into the EU PTR, so it's moot ;) |
| 19:24.48 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 19:24.52 | Fisker- | Well you can't actually log into the EU ptr cladhaire >:3 |
| 19:25.02 | cladhaire | i cant? |
| 19:25.08 | Fisker- | nope |
| 19:25.16 | Fisker- | Your account is upgraded for wotlk |
| 19:25.26 | NightHawkTheSane | they fixed that bug.. at least for US.. |
| 19:25.28 | cladhaire | didn't they fix that bug aeons ago? |
| 19:25.34 | Pneumatus_ | nope |
| 19:25.35 | [SW]Dodge | EU ptr got "server shutdown in 15min" :( |
| 19:25.38 | ScytheBlade1 | You don't log on to the PTR via the PTR client |
| 19:25.39 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 19:25.40 | Pneumatus_ | they said they would fix it over a month ago |
| 19:25.41 | Pneumatus_ | and didnt |
| 19:25.42 | Dewin | I just checked to see if the wowi author beta is still sending batches, so I might get in that way anyways. |
| 19:25.44 | ScytheBlade1 | You log on to the PTR through the beta client |
| 19:25.47 | Fisker- | They didn't fix it on EU |
| 19:25.49 | cladhaire | well i'm on beta, so i win |
| 19:25.52 | cladhaire | thats up until the 14th |
| 19:26.08 | Shadowed | So any WoWI adminy people on that wants to delete some of my beta mods? :p |
| 19:26.10 | mikma | betahaire |
| 19:26.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Dewin: release is in like a month. :p |
| 19:26.24 | cladhaire | Shadowed: PM one of us, or six of us |
| 19:26.24 | Dewin | I know :) |
| 19:26.29 | cladhaire | there might be seven of us tho |
| 19:26.30 | cladhaire | lol |
| 19:26.36 | Shadowed | What you're saying is, bug you |
| 19:26.39 | NightHawkTheSane | crazy multipling wowi admins |
| 19:27.19 | Lopeppeppy | At this juncture, more is better than fewer, I promise you. |
| 19:27.22 | cladhaire | heh |
| 19:27.28 | Lopeppeppy | I didn't even harm any of them at Blizzcon, I was such a good Peppy. |
| 19:27.35 | jaxdahl2 | blues are still evasive about whether the patch is tomorrow or not, i haven't seen outright confirmation even though all the signs are pointing towards it |
| 19:27.59 | Syzgyn | Theres no function to get the difficulty color of a unit relative to you, right? |
| 19:27.59 | Lopeppeppy | jaxdahl2, they never give confirmation, it's just the norm. You'll find out when you download the patch. :) Relax, eat a cookie. |
| 19:28.12 | ScytheBlade1 | I agree with the "Relax, eat a cookie." |
| 19:28.14 | ScytheBlade1 | wtb a cookie |
| 19:28.15 | ScytheBlade1 | =[ |
| 19:28.17 | Dewin | I still want to know what Master's Call is. |
| 19:28.21 | Syzgyn | ~cookie ScytheBlade1 |
| 19:28.24 | Dewin | It's mentioned on the hunter talent tree but that's it. |
| 19:28.40 | jaxdahl2 | i've killed illidan but i've never gotten any titles, been spending all my time on beta |
| 19:28.49 | NightHawkTheSane | jaxdahl2: the 12 hour downtime scheduled for tomorrow is a -reasonbly- good indicator. ;) |
| 19:28.59 | Syzgyn | I guess thats now how ~cookie works :( |
| 19:29.20 | Lopeppeppy | Sometimes it is |
| 19:29.22 | jaxdahl2 | NightHawkTheSane, certainly is |
| 19:29.24 | ZealotOnAStick | Uhm, there was a blue post like 2 weeks ago saying, flat out, 3.0.2 was the 14th. |
| 19:29.31 | jaxdahl2 | they're gonna be dredging the databases for achievements |
| 19:29.33 | cladhaire | ZealotOnAStick: since when? |
| 19:29.37 | NightHawkTheSane | ZealotOnAStick: link or it didn't happen |
| 19:29.40 | cladhaire | ZealotOnAStick: everyone has been going off the "season 2 ending" |
| 19:29.42 | jaxdahl2 | ZealotOnAStick, sure you're not thinking about s4? |
| 19:29.46 | cladhaire | but that's not the same |
| 19:29.51 | cladhaire | not that I'md enying for a second that 3.x is tomorrow for us :P |
| 19:29.52 | ZealotOnAStick | I don't give a rat's ass about pvp. |
| 19:29.54 | ZealotOnAStick | so yes. |
| 19:29.55 | cladhaire | but LIES |
| 19:30.39 | NightHawkTheSane | there's a lot of really good reasons why it will be the 14th, but i don't recall any absolute statements. *shrug* |
| 19:31.03 | Shadowed | cladhaire: Blizzard said it at BlizzCon as well |
| 19:31.11 | Shadowed | and extended maint for US servers |
| 19:31.31 | cladhaire | he said there was a post |
| 19:31.36 | cladhaire | that's all i was disputing :P |
| 19:31.50 | Shadowed | reading is overrated |
| 19:32.12 | Wikwocket | here is some confirmation about patch day: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=6178690374&sid=1 |
| 19:32.13 | Fisker- | i want to play starcraft 2 :( |
| 19:32.15 | Lopeppeppy | They said things about PvP seasons, NOT about the patch. :) |
| 19:32.27 | Lopeppeppy | And that's wow-eu, which is separate too. |
| 19:32.40 | Fisker- | They said the season would end when the patch was launched |
| 19:32.41 | Fisker- | end |
| 19:33.03 | jaxdahl2 | they said the season would end ON or BEFORE the patch |
| 19:33.21 | jaxdahl2 | there's an obvious reason the season wouldn't end AFTER the patch |
| 19:33.42 | Lopeppeppy | Obvious /= reality as we know it. |
| 19:33.46 | Lopeppeppy | ANYWAY.... |
| 19:33.51 | Lopeppeppy | Relax. Have more cookies. Really. |
| 19:34.03 | jaxdahl2 | cookies are fattening for me. sorry |
| 19:34.55 | Fisker- | "the current arena season will end in respect to the ladder upon the release of our next major patch." |
| 19:34.55 | mikma | The Kirin Tor have made their move and so has Dalaran. Please watch your step around the crater that has been left behind! |
| 19:34.57 | Fisker- | Not before |
| 19:34.58 | Fisker- | not after |
| 19:34.59 | mikma | hah |
| 19:35.03 | Fisker- | ON the release |
| 19:35.06 | Fisker- | now |
| 19:35.07 | Fisker- | end. |
| 19:35.19 | Fisker- | Blizzard knows how to use words |
| 19:36.09 | kamdis | I can't find anything on the blue tracker that officially states tomorrow is the 3.0.2 patch. |
| 19:36.29 | Corgan | they said so at blizzcon |
| 19:36.39 | End | Fisker- keeps ping me :o |
| 19:36.44 | End | pinging* |
| 19:36.54 | Fisker- | nice |
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| 19:37.01 | kamdis | I'm not saying it isn't. I am just saying I can't locate a post. |
| 19:37.05 | Corgan | joking about how if you want atiesh, you would have until tuesday |
| 19:37.27 | Kirov | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10535470483&sid=1 |
| 19:37.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Corgan: they never said tuesday.. |
| 19:37.52 | Corgan | eh |
| 19:38.02 | kamdis | Thanks Kirov. |
| 19:38.17 | Fisker- | NightHawkTheSane they did |
| 19:38.20 | NightHawkTheSane | they said "if you want it, only have a few days left" or something to that effect. sure, the implication is there, but it's far from a "you have until tuesday" |
| 19:38.21 | Lopeppeppy | OMG. You guys totally raise my blood pressure, you know that? *laugh* |
| 19:38.23 | Fisker- | "You have 2 days to turn in your set items" |
| 19:38.27 | Fisker- | _2_ days |
| 19:38.30 | Fisker- | 2 |
| 19:38.32 | Fisker- | TWO |
| 19:38.37 | ScytheBlade1 | THREE |
| 19:38.40 | Fisker- | TWO |
| 19:38.49 | NeoTron | Fisker-: what "set items"? |
| 19:38.51 | Kirov | It doesn't specifically say the 3.0 patch is coming out on the 14th, but other places they've stated that season 4 ends when the patch comes out. |
| 19:38.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: sounds like you need a cookie |
| 19:39.05 | kamdis | 40 splinters by maintenance, not to mention the other parts. lol. GL anyone who thinks they can do that. |
| 19:39.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Fisker-: so according to them, 3.0 came out yesterday? |
| 19:39.33 | Fisker- | err no? |
| 19:39.44 | Kirov | I'm expecting 3.0.2 to come out tomorrow, and 3.0.3 to come out on Friday |
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| 19:40.00 | NightHawkTheSane | meh. its all moot anyway |
| 19:40.00 | Kirov | followed by 3.0.6 two weeks later. |
| 19:40.18 | Fisker- | 2 days = monday |
| 19:40.20 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm betting we get 3.0.3 Wednesday. |
| 19:40.23 | Fisker- | Maintanece tuesday night |
| 19:40.24 | Fisker- | = patch |
| 19:40.29 | Fisker- | and still 2 days |
| 19:41.25 | Kirov | I'm not looking forward to the 2 weeks of addon hell |
| 19:41.46 | Fisker- | What if it's 3 weeks then |
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| 19:42.03 | Kirov | "zomg, my addonz r gon!" |
| 19:42.33 | Wikwocket | Yeah, clearly WoW should delete the whole interface folder each patch |
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| 19:42.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Delete? Nooo. My ~30 random 4% complete addons would be deleted. |
| 19:43.01 | ScytheBlade1 | But maybe rename the folder :) |
| 19:43.15 | ZealotOnAStick | I would be amused. |
| 19:43.15 | End | yeah |
| 19:43.23 | Kirov | uhg |
| 19:43.33 | End | I'll be copying my beta AddOns folder over, and renaming my old AddOns folder |
| 19:43.36 | ZealotOnAStick | But I also make backups of Interface and WTF before a patch. |
| 19:43.54 | Kirov | I can see all of the "interface fixer" programs that come out that just rename it back. |
| 19:44.02 | Kirov | And install 5 trojans |
| 19:44.05 | Wikwocket | heh |
| 19:44.07 | NightHawkTheSane | anyone know where there's a good (and preferrably easy) example of a ScrollFrame? |
| 19:45.09 | foxlit | example of a scrollframe doing what? :) |
| 19:45.17 | Syzgyn | ScrollFrames arent too tough |
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| 19:45.46 | ScytheBlade1 | ~hail Zootfizzle |
| 19:45.47 | purl | ACTION bows down to Zootfizzle and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 19:45.47 | Kirov | ScrollFrame or FauxScrollFrame or SmoothFauxScrollFrame or SuperScrollFrame or ScoffFrame? |
| 19:45.47 | NightHawkTheSane | well, i just want an implementation example :p |
| 19:45.57 | End | uh oh, it's Zootfizzle, hide the children! |
| 19:46.06 | sylvanaar | Shadowed glad to see youre updating sspvp |
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| 19:46.10 | Zootfizzle | Heya ;) |
| 19:46.11 | Shadowed | I hate it |
| 19:46.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Kirov: yeah, just basic scrollframe is fine :) |
| 19:46.12 | Shadowed | a lot |
| 19:46.15 | End | hi Zootfizzle :) |
| 19:46.18 | ScytheBlade1 | How goes? |
| 19:46.26 | sylvanaar | Shadowed you do? |
| 19:46.35 | Shadowed | I haven't been happy with the design of SSPVP for a while |
| 19:46.36 | Wikwocket | NightHawkTheSane: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8244-BidTracker.html has a simple-stupid use of a scroll frame |
| 19:46.40 | Zootfizzle | Pretty good, reading the forums ;) |
| 19:46.44 | Zootfizzle | How 'bout you? |
| 19:46.45 | End | lol |
| 19:46.45 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 19:46.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm sorry to hear that :) |
| 19:46.57 | Wikwocket | You're welcome to examine or use some of the scrollframe code |
| 19:47.00 | Shadowed | Naturally what you're saying is, you're reading how you should stop breaking addons in the patch? :p |
| 19:47.00 | End | Zootfizzle is processing customer feedback *wink* |
| 19:47.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Wikwocket: thanks :) |
| 19:47.20 | sylvanaar | Shadowed i redid prat to some extent, its been a pain in the ass i never want to go through again |
| 19:47.21 | Zootfizzle | I'm sure I have absolutely no idea what thread by Sundra you're referring to, Shadowed ;) |
| 19:47.26 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm sitting here doing almost nothing. |
| 19:47.31 | Kirov | NightHawkTheSane - did you want a pure lua implementation? |
| 19:47.49 | Kirov | If not just check out the default mail frame |
| 19:47.56 | Kirov | or quest log, etc |
| 19:48.02 | kamdis | Zootfizzle et al have plenty of defenders on the forums. ;-) |
| 19:48.16 | Wikwocket | My Lua is impure, it is mixed with dirty XML and I think a little QBASIC |
| 19:48.19 | ScytheBlade1 | That and he has a banhammer. |
| 19:48.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Kirov: ah, good point. i can read xml well enough to understand it :) |
| 19:48.26 | End | it's true |
| 19:48.33 | End | have you seen his avatar? |
| 19:48.41 | End | he clearly is hitting something with his hammer |
| 19:49.14 | Tem | Zootfizzle is a gnome |
| 19:49.20 | Tem | like, in real life |
| 19:49.32 | Lopeppeppy | You're like an orc, Tem, so there! |
| 19:49.45 | Zootfizzle | Yeah! |
| 19:49.46 | Zootfizzle | So there! |
| 19:49.57 | ScytheBlade1 | The 14+ hour days done with for now? :) |
| 19:49.59 | kamdis | I couldn't be trusted with the banhammer. There would be practically no one left on the forums if I had it. |
| 19:50.11 | Tem | an Orc? Awesome. +5 expertise with Axes! |
| 19:50.57 | NeoTron | Tem: I am considering human for my DK... but being better with swords and maces really isn't a huge benefit ... if you get an axe or polearm |
| 19:51.12 | NightHawkTheSane | kamdis: and yet, the forums would be better for it |
| 19:51.27 | Lopeppeppy | Hey, using an axe works the same on tall people, I just start from the ankles, Tem! :P |
| 19:51.30 | NeoTron | only reason human is truly still high up is 10% rep gain bonus |
| 19:51.34 | kamdis | But what would I do all day when I'm supposed to be working? |
| 19:52.02 | Tem | NeoTron: polearms are craptastic for DKs |
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| 19:52.06 | Tem | they're itemized for huntards |
| 19:52.10 | kamdis | |Jelly|: That would just mean more time in Shattrath playing Bejeweled. |
| 19:52.11 | Shadowed | +10% reputation hasn't been as big of a deal for a while thought NeoTron |
| 19:52.19 | Shadowed | Blizzard made reputations less of a horrible pain to grind |
| 19:52.34 | End | I'd still say it means a lot, though |
| 19:52.34 | NeoTron | Tem: I am aware in the general sense |
| 19:52.44 | Tem | If I had +10% rep on my DK, I'd be exalted with wyrmrest by now |
| 19:52.58 | NeoTron | Tem: axes, however, are not. Also a epic naxx polearm > blue <whatever> most likely |
| 19:52.58 | Tem | (I need 3-5 more heroics) |
| 19:53.01 | |Jelly| | I already have my guild's and friend's high score. |
| 19:53.08 | |Jelly| | You're the one that seekritly has it installed. |
| 19:53.10 | End | and honestly, it was kinda silly having that kinda racial around when they had the first to exalted FoS :P |
| 19:53.36 | Tem | End: what do you mean "was" |
| 19:53.39 | Tem | the racial is still there |
| 19:53.47 | End | they took out the FoS though |
| 19:53.49 | End | didn't they? |
| 19:53.52 | Tem | oh |
| 19:53.54 | Tem | maybe |
| 19:53.56 | End | I meant was in the backwards way |
| 19:54.16 | End | I was trying to apply was to the FoS part, but it only worked in my head :P |
| 19:54.35 | Tem | NeoTron: there are enough swords and maces available that I think it's worth it |
| 19:54.48 | Fisker- | If anyone should have diplomacy it should be the orcs |
| 19:54.51 | Tem | (at 80) |
| 19:54.54 | Fisker- | Orcs: "We don't need to fight" |
| 19:55.00 | Fisker- | Humans: "BLARGH KILL ALL ORCS" |
| 19:55.08 | End | Orcs use axe diplomacy |
| 19:55.13 | NeoTron | how much expertise raiding does 5 expertise save at 80? |
| 19:55.14 | Shadowed | FoS? |
| 19:55.20 | Lopeppeppy | "Does anyone else want to negotiate?" |
| 19:55.20 | End | feat of strength |
| 19:55.25 | Tem | 20ish, I think |
| 19:55.43 | End | you know, the special achievements that generally have a limited window you can achieve them in |
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| 19:55.48 | kamdis | |Jelly| I haven't even logged on to live in 2 weeks. |
| 19:55.53 | End | (and don't count for points) |
| 19:55.58 | Wikwocket | "Where did he learn to negotiate like that?" |
| 19:55.58 | NeoTron | there is one time where it's worth it the most I'd say - tanking |
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| 19:56.10 | End | also wowhead is hard to find achievements in if you don't click the wotlk button |
| 19:56.20 | |Jelly| | Lies! You log on to seekritly play Bejeweled on a seekrit character on a seekrit server! |
| 19:56.31 | Lopeppeppy | SEEEKTRIK! |
| 19:56.37 | Tem | 8.20 expertise rating per point |
| 19:56.40 | Tem | so |
| 19:56.44 | Tem | lua> 8.2*5 |
| 19:56.44 | lua_bot | Tem: 41 |
| 19:56.49 | Tem | 41 rating |
| 19:57.00 | ZealotOnAStick | Wikwocket: "I wonder." |
| 19:57.12 | ZealotOnAStick | or is it "Gee, I wonder?" |
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| 19:57.32 | End | oh they do stll have the exalted achievement |
| 19:57.54 | End | pretty obvious noone in my faction is going to get it :P |
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| 19:58.20 | End | what they DID remove was the title though |
| 19:58.25 | End | since it used to even have a title |
| 19:58.26 | Tem | first to 80 |
| 19:58.35 | End | yeah, they removed those titles as well |
| 19:58.42 | Tem | Basically, on the way to 80, the only weapons you'll have that are any good are Axes |
| 19:58.56 | Tem | Ingvar's Huge Axe |
| 19:58.59 | Tem | De-Raged |
| 19:59.19 | Shadowed | To bad they removed the 80 class titles, "Arch Druid Mayen" wtb :( |
| 19:59.19 | NeoTron | yep |
| 19:59.42 | NeoTron | my l80 DK still has ingvars axe because I never did the quest to get a new one, nor got one from an instance |
| 19:59.43 | Tem | but when you get to 80, there's Dreadlord's Blade, the AC revered Mace, Tuning fork of Justice |
| 20:00.00 | End | Those titles were cool, but most of them would have been claimed by the other faction |
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| 20:00.25 | End | And by other faction I mean a guild on the other faction |
| 20:00.54 | End | The racial ones they obvious couldn't claim, but those titles were lame anyways :P |
| 20:00.56 | Corgan | Malgayne! |
| 20:01.13 | Malgayne | Hey Corgan. :) |
| 20:01.22 | Tem | Shadowed: I think they said those titles would come back |
| 20:01.37 | Tem | as part of a non-only-one-per-server achievement |
| 20:01.47 | NeoTron | makes sense |
| 20:01.56 | NeoTron | the titles were awesome, the way to get them not so much |
| 20:02.00 | End | yeah |
| 20:02.02 | End | agreed |
| 20:02.24 | NeoTron | I liked Iron Chef too |
| 20:02.47 | NeoTron | I'd see that as a good achievement for knowing a majority of all the recipies, having cooked a specific amount of stuff etc |
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| 20:07.12 | Syzgyn | Whats the function to see an NPC's title? like <Banker> or whatever |
| 20:21.28 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:21.56 | ScytheBlade1 | |Jelly|: LINK ME |
| 20:21.58 | kneeki | Haha |
| 20:22.01 | kneeki | Funny stuff |
| 20:22.07 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10972033544&sid=1#15 |
| 20:22.21 | |Jelly| | I think this idiot thinks he's the first person to want to argue these points. |
| 20:22.55 | kneeki | lol |
| 20:23.06 | ScytheBlade1 | " The default blizzard UIi is very user unfriendly" |
| 20:23.09 | ScytheBlade1 | hahahahahahahahahahahaha |
| 20:23.26 | |Jelly| | The default UI is probably the easiest I've ever seen in any MMO I've played. |
| 20:23.33 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd agree |
| 20:23.51 | NeoTron | |Jelly|: ofc what people might fail to realize is that, for the most part, threat IS rendered unimportant in 3.0 |
| 20:24.01 | NeoTron | unless you have really bad tanks or the boss has a threat reducing ability |
| 20:24.06 | NeoTron | Fisker-: and that is rather random out of nowhere |
| 20:24.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Although |
| 20:24.07 | ScytheBlade1 | " |
| 20:24.09 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:24.09 | ScytheBlade1 | "3) Simplicity is fine, but scale features are not negotiable. Every last letter of text needs to be scalable with out us having to run to a third party so we can just play the game. " |
| 20:24.10 | |Jelly| | I'm a REALLY bad tank. :P |
| 20:24.14 | ScytheBlade1 | I agree with that |
| 20:24.18 | Industrial | lua> a={2,3} table.insert(a, 1, 1) print(a[1]..' '..a[2]) |
| 20:24.18 | lua_bot | Industrial: 1 2 |
| 20:24.37 | Fisker- | i'm always random NeoTron >:3 |
| 20:24.48 | |Jelly| | I would too. I hate to openly agree with him, but I will on that point. My roomie has poor eye sight and has problems reading things that are small when she uses the resolution her monitor is set up for. |
| 20:24.57 | NeoTron | Fisker-: that is the truth |
| 20:25.23 | |Jelly| | And I don't think that the UI scale is the solution either because not EVERYTHING needs to be huge but alas, I don't mind using addons either. :) |
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| 20:26.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Having more scaling options would be nice |
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| 20:26.15 | |Jelly| | I love when people call me a troll. |
| 20:26.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Well. |
| 20:26.40 | kamdis | You kind of are. |
| 20:26.40 | ScytheBlade1 | They're not /wrong/. |
| 20:26.41 | ScytheBlade1 | :) |
| 20:26.42 | |Jelly| | No really, I do. |
| 20:26.50 | kamdis | But you're OUR troll and we <3 you. |
| 20:26.52 | cladhaire | Can I get some people to beta test a new version of Clique on beta? |
| 20:26.57 | kamdis | Yes. |
| 20:26.59 | kamdis | :) |
| 20:26.59 | kamdis | Please |
| 20:27.09 | ScytheBlade1 | cladhaire: I'd love you forever if you gave me the chance to do that |
| 20:27.31 | kamdis | |Jelly| showed me the light (of Clique) and now I hate playing without it. |
| 20:27.34 | cladhaire | hah |
| 20:27.40 | Lopeppeppy | Clique rules my world. |
| 20:27.43 | cladhaire | lemme build a beta zip |
| 20:27.46 | |Jelly| | I just don't feel the need to rewrite what someone else has said a number of times so instead, I just tell them what I personally think. |
| 20:27.50 | |Jelly| | I luff you clad |
| 20:28.04 | kamdis | we're just teasin' you |Jelly|. |
| 20:28.08 | |Jelly| | ...and personally accost those who claim (usually in game) that healbot is better! |
| 20:28.15 | |Jelly| | ACCOST! |
| 20:28.18 | |Jelly| | errm |
| 20:28.24 | |Jelly| | s/ACCOST/troll/ |
| 20:28.30 | cladhaire | yeah I don't get the healbot peop[le |
| 20:28.32 | cladhaire | >< |
| 20:28.48 | Lopeppeppy | ACCOST! |
| 20:28.50 | NeoTron | I use clique as a dpser |
| 20:28.59 | NeoTron | I cannot explain why but cannot change now due to habit but... |
| 20:29.01 | |Jelly| | And to be completely honest, 99% of the time, I make PitBull look exactly like PRaid. <3 |
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| 20:29.22 | cladhaire | lol then you might like the new praid that's in the pipeline :P |
| 20:29.26 | NeoTron | I use left click on friendly frame for lifetap, middle on enemy for Seed of Corruption, etc |
| 20:30.02 | ScytheBlade1 | I use clique as a DPSer and as a healer. |
| 20:30.09 | cladhaire | Go to http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5108-Clique.html and click the "Beta" tab at the top to download the latest beta version |
| 20:30.10 | Fisker- | healbot is fail |
| 20:30.12 | cladhaire | should work swimmingly |
| 20:30.18 | Fisker- | Grid is awsum |
| 20:30.22 | cladhaire | the changelog is updated as well |
| 20:30.29 | cladhaire | Fisker-: indeed |
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| 20:30.36 | |Jelly| | yay! |
| 20:31.01 | ScytheBlade1 | cladhaire: anything in specific you want poked? |
| 20:31.08 | cladhaire | the options panel |
| 20:31.11 | cladhaire | and playing with it, I suppose |
| 20:31.14 | cladhaire | but none of that code changed :P |
| 20:31.21 | cladhaire | the panel should disappear when you enter combat now.. which is good |
| 20:32.05 | NightHawkTheSane | man, i really hate phone interviews |
| 20:32.32 | cladhaire | People have been asking for differentiation between leftshift and rightshift, but that's impossible as it stands |
| 20:32.37 | kamdis | lol @ |Jelly|"s cut and paste of the troll exchange |
| 20:32.38 | cladhaire | the template doesn't support it |
| 20:33.35 | |Jelly| | ~hug Kamdis |
| 20:33.35 | purl | ACTION hugs Kamdis tightly until Kamdis turns slightly blue |
| 20:35.00 | ScytheBlade1 | cladhaire: works as far as I can tell |
| 20:35.17 | ScytheBlade1 | I bound Remove Curse to right-click on a select number of frames, and it worked as expected |
| 20:35.18 | cladhaire | that's really all I wanted, thanks :P |
| 20:35.22 | cladhaire | think I'm safe to push it tonight? |
| 20:35.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Let me poke some more |
| 20:35.54 | Wikwocket | After 2am PST no doubt ;) |
| 20:36.10 | kamdis | Oh man, post in beta general about allowing for player marriage. I really hope Blizzard doesn't touch that with a ten foot pole. |
| 20:36.46 | NightHawkTheSane | End: i so hate you. :D |
| 20:36.50 | ScytheBlade1 | cladhaire: I can't have two spells on the same binding with differing frames? |
| 20:36.52 | Dewin | Link? |
| 20:36.57 | cladhaire | ScytheBlade1: no |
| 20:36.58 | cladhaire | next version |
| 20:37.01 | ScytheBlade1 | :( |
| 20:37.01 | cladhaire | which will be post 3.x |
| 20:37.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh k |
| 20:37.06 | cladhaire | its never been like that |
| 20:37.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 20:37.10 | cladhaire | but i want to add.. some way to do that |
| 20:37.11 | End | NightHawkTheSane: heh, why's that? |
| 20:37.12 | cladhaire | but its hard |
| 20:37.15 | ScytheBlade1 | I never had a use, but you said to test |
| 20:37.17 | cladhaire | either i need to change the way you register frames |
| 20:37.17 | ScytheBlade1 | So I was testing :) |
| 20:37.19 | NightHawkTheSane | End: scrolling makes my head hurt. :) |
| 20:37.22 | End | lol |
| 20:37.24 | cladhaire | or let the user specify a pattern? |
| 20:37.31 | kamdis | link: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10972144122&sid=2000 |
| 20:38.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 20:38.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh I see what it's doing now |
| 20:38.16 | ScytheBlade1 | The frame config is 100% global |
| 20:38.26 | Dewin | I don't see why not to implement in-game marriages, but it shouldn't be an "achievement" lol. |
| 20:38.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Dewin: >.> yeah, there's definitely something -wrong- with it being an achievement. |
| 20:38.55 | ScytheBlade1 | cladhaire: let me clone my live settings and poke |
| 20:39.01 | cladhaire | okay! |
| 20:39.09 | ScytheBlade1 | TO THE DRUID |
| 20:39.35 | NightHawkTheSane | To the druid! |
| 20:39.39 | kamdis | Well, Dewin, in game marriage is a catch-22. Allow same sex marriage, or disallow it, you get angry people. |
| 20:39.41 | Wikwocket | <Batman scene change music> |
| 20:39.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Mage only uses it for buffign with grid, the druid uses it for almost everything |
| 20:39.48 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, wait, was that not a toast, ScytheBlade1? |
| 20:39.53 | kamdis | At least, that's the reason LotRO gave. |
| 20:40.18 | Dewin | Heh |
| 20:40.21 | NightHawkTheSane | kamdis: meh, that's a poor excuse, imo. |
| 20:40.26 | Dewin | FFXI got away with it just fine. |
| 20:40.35 | Syzgyn | Marriage is the same issue as last names. It's not a RP game, no matter how much you want it to be :P |
| 20:41.02 | Dewin | And really, chances are that between any given two guys who want to get married in game one of them will be playing a female toon anyways, so what's the problem? |
| 20:41.18 | |Jelly| | While I'm all for it, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10972144122&sid=2000#18 <-- this |
| 20:41.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Syzgyn: LIES. My Night Elf Druid is beautiful and unique snowflake! also a half-vampire-half-werewolf-half-drow |
| 20:41.45 | Syzgyn | Oooooo very unique! |
| 20:42.04 | Dewin | ... heh |
| 20:42.22 | Dewin | Having played a game that took roleplaying fairly seriously, I can tell you MMO roleplaying is kind of... just lol |
| 20:42.37 | NightHawkTheSane | (if you couldn't tell, that was sarcasm :p) |
| 20:42.43 | Syzgyn | If you wanna RP, get some friends and play D&D or something |
| 20:42.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Syzgyn, Dewin: agreed. |
| 20:42.56 | Syzgyn | (No shit) :P |
| 20:43.01 | ScytheBlade1 | cladhaire: was just paging through my resto spells and I got a FrameXML error. SpellBookFrame.lua:380: Invalid spell slot in SetSpell |
| 20:43.13 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 20:43.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Honestly, the real deal breaker for me with RP in WoW is the way the world doesn't change |
| 20:43.21 | ScytheBlade1 | cladhaire: ha, bug. Mouse over an empty spell icon. |
| 20:43.22 | cladhaire | when you moused over an empty button? |
| 20:43.26 | cladhaire | k |
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| 20:43.30 | cladhaire | thanks :P |
| 20:43.30 | Dewin | my online gaming origins date back to GemStone III, which is 20 years old and still kicking :) |
| 20:43.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Sure |
| 20:43.34 | Corgan | k |
| 20:43.43 | cladhaire | ha! |
| 20:43.44 | cladhaire | how odd |
| 20:43.44 | NightHawkTheSane | heh, i haven't played gemstone in forever |
| 20:44.32 | Dewin | NightHawkTheSane: I was (briefly) a GM before FFXI sucked me in, I deposited a few share checks ;) |
| 20:44.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Dewin: nice |
| 20:44.57 | Dewin | dev side of course, not CE |
| 20:45.15 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i played it for a little while something like 5ish years ago, mostly because my girlfriend at the time played.. |
| 20:45.25 | cladhaire | ScytheBlade1: easy enough fix :P |
| 20:45.31 | Dewin | I met my wife in it ;) |
| 20:45.36 | NightHawkTheSane | neat :) |
| 20:46.01 | ScytheBlade1 | cladhaire: good, everything else is checking out |
| 20:46.09 | Dewin | All started on a character I was roleplaying as not being able to speak common (so just their racial language), so I needed someone to translate for me so I can sell some stuff :) |
| 20:48.22 | NeoTron | NightHawkTheSane: WotLK will help slightly with that. I hope they will use phasing to change parts of the world as they add new content |
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| 20:48.45 | NeoTron | and not just during the leveling process / initial questing |
| 20:48.49 | Mikk | Glyph of Accusation - When your polymorph is broken, the target assumes dire-sheep form and immediatly aggros on the breaker. The dire sheep cannot be taunted off the breaker, and is immune to all aggro-dump mechanics (yep, no feign death to hide the blame mr hunter). In addition, a giant red arrow appears over the breaker with "he did it" written above |
| 20:48.52 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: it's a VERY nice change, yes. but it's not really what i'm looking for. phasing just changes the world for you, not for anyone else. |
| 20:49.05 | NeoTron | well true, but it can make permanent changes |
| 20:49.08 | ScytheBlade1 | cladhaire: looking good |
| 20:49.17 | NeoTron | once you do whatever quests are required for the change to happen |
| 20:49.21 | cladhaire | sweet thanks |
| 20:49.26 | cladhaire | I'm gonna change some stuff around soon |
| 20:49.30 | cladhaire | but want to make sure I spec it out properly first |
| 20:49.35 | End | Mikk: what happens if the breaker dies? :P |
| 20:49.45 | ScytheBlade1 | End: goes back to a sheep. |
| 20:49.52 | Mikk | Not specified |
| 20:49.56 | End | aww, I was hoping it'd go into berserk mode |
| 20:50.22 | Mikk | Seriously though, sheep should clearly aggro on whoever break them :P |
| 20:50.29 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: yeah, like i said, it's very awesome, and takes it a step in a good direction. But there's a whole laundry list of things that still make RP extremely awkward. |
| 20:50.39 | Mikk | Not that that helps with tardtanks |
| 20:51.25 | End | good god |
| 20:51.36 | End | the price of primals has really fallen |
| 20:51.40 | Mikk | Ohhhhhh nice addon idea. Assign {circle} to sheep breakers and "/say The nipplehead diddit!" |
| 20:51.48 | Mikk | Yeah everything 70ish has taken a sharp nosedive |
| 20:51.51 | Mikk | Everyone's emptying their banks |
| 20:51.56 | Mikk | And noone's buying |
| 20:51.59 | ZealotOnAStick | Fel Lotus is stupid cheap now. |
| 20:52.04 | ZealotOnAStick | on blackhand anyway. |
| 20:52.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: thats why i sold my shit last week :D |
| 20:52.12 | Mikk | I'm seeing epic gems for 75g |
| 20:52.20 | NeoTron | I've sold off my stuff a week ago or so |
| 20:52.23 | Wikwocket | In 3.0, the combatlog events do make it clear who broke all types of CC |
| 20:52.23 | NeoTron | anything that's sellable |
| 20:52.24 | End | price of leather has actually gone up |
| 20:52.27 | NeoTron | I was a bit late unfortunately |
| 20:52.38 | cladhaire | EU beta server restart =( |
| 20:52.45 | cladhaire | that means sleeptime for me |
| 20:52.52 | NeoTron | Mikk: sick! ofc I can't really complain at 25k |
| 20:52.57 | NightHawkTheSane | i hate you both. :p |
| 20:53.02 | Arrowmaster | i only have 14k =( |
| 20:53.03 | ZealotOnAStick | ~33k |
| 20:53.07 | Dewin | I have 440g. |
| 20:53.11 | NightHawkTheSane | s/both/all/ |
| 20:53.23 | Mikk | Nah, everything >10k is lol. I'm just playing the AH as a sidegame, trying to hit goldcap. |
| 20:53.23 | End | I have less than Mikk |
| 20:53.26 | End | that's all I say |
| 20:53.47 | ZealotOnAStick | I play the AH so I don't have to farm. |
| 20:53.47 | Mikk | And complain to norgs & co |
| 20:53.52 | NeoTron | I can afford epic mount on my DK so I'm good :P |
| 20:53.55 | Mikk | Except then they gave me SVN access |
| 20:53.57 | Mikk | So that kinda backfired |
| 20:53.57 | ZealotOnAStick | I just want to be able to BUY anything I need and be done with it. |
| 20:54.09 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont have the patience for the AH game most of the time. :\ |
| 20:54.32 | Mikk | There's only room for a few AH players on each realm anyway |
| 20:54.33 | ZealotOnAStick | Half an hourish a day for me, including mailing shit between my main and my mule. |
| 20:54.43 | Arrowmaster | my 14k isnt going to last long when i start going for the 50 mount achievement =( |
| 20:54.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: which is an entirly different rant, that would probably offend a few people. ;) |
| 20:54.57 | End | it costed me about 4k on beta to get 50 mounts |
| 20:54.59 | End | but I lazy |
| 20:55.00 | ZealotOnAStick | thought they lowered it to like 25 or 30? |
| 20:55.01 | Mikk | I'm on maybe close to an hour, all told. But I clock 300g a day too. |
| 20:55.04 | End | and got a lot of flyer mounts |
| 20:55.08 | End | those are more expensive |
| 20:55.13 | NightHawkTheSane | ZealotOnAStick: no, it was lowered -to- 50, from more t han that, i believe |
| 20:55.23 | End | it was 75 |
| 20:55.23 | ZealotOnAStick | oh. |
| 20:55.35 | NightHawkTheSane | mostly so tauren had a chance in hell |
| 20:55.39 | ZealotOnAStick | the reward for that is what again? |
| 20:55.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Albino Drake |
| 20:55.43 | End | albino drake |
| 20:55.49 | Arrowmaster | 75 was impossible for some races until until like exalted with all wotlk factions |
| 20:55.53 | Mikk | Gifv engineer motorbike |
| 20:56.04 | Wikwocket | Achievements that give rewards - http://elitistjerks.com/910672-post7729.html |
| 20:56.20 | ZealotOnAStick | nice, thanks |
| 20:56.49 | ScytheBlade1 | YES @ http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?achievement=2188 |
| 20:56.50 | ScytheBlade1 | hahahahahaha |
| 20:56.51 | End | out of all the horde mounts, tauren can ride their own..and..uh..wolves now? |
| 20:57.13 | |pez| | and any of the PvP mounts. |
| 20:57.16 | End | yeah |
| 20:57.22 | End | pvp mounts are a strange exception |
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| 20:57.54 | End | pvp mounts, white hawkstrider, baron mount are all rideable |
| 20:57.55 | zenzelezz | tauren have been able to ride wolves for some time now |
| 20:58.16 | End | yeah, but they weren't able at one point |
| 20:58.45 | NightHawkTheSane | which is a shame, because tauren on a chicken is hilarious. |
| 20:58.50 | End | lol |
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| 20:59.06 | End | they still get white and black chicken :P |
| 20:59.15 | End | Guest4605: fail less, kd3 |
| 20:59.16 | NightHawkTheSane | true |
| 21:01.16 | mikma | ScytheBlade1: hahahahahaha, so getting jenkins! |
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| 21:01.55 | End | need 3 people to do it though :P |
| 21:01.59 | End | can't get past one of the doors |
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| 21:02.16 | End | (unless they changed it on beta) |
| 21:02.18 | Atriace | Anyone know off-hand how to cancel totems? |
| 21:02.29 | ZealotOnAStick | Totemic Recall |
| 21:02.46 | ZealotOnAStick | I think that's what it's called anyway |
| 21:02.50 | Atriace | My first inclination is to simply use CancelUnitBuff, but that doesn't work. |
| 21:03.34 | mikma | so i wonder how to complete that... |
| 21:03.45 | mikma | 1 magee that kills them all? |
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| 21:03.57 | mikma | and everyone gets the title? |
| 21:04.03 | End | probably |
| 21:04.36 | Shirik|Ecole | Thunder_Child: ping |
| 21:04.48 | Shirik|Ecole | or better yet |
| 21:05.07 | Shirik|Ecole | does anyone have TC's labeled group photo? |
| 21:05.24 | Syzgyn | http://www.thunder-child.net/Misc/Blizzcon2008UIGroupLabeled.jpg |
| 21:05.37 | Iriel | Someone should add that to the thread? |
| 21:06.06 | Mikk | I suppose noone's heard anything about engi bikes eh? :S |
| 21:06.09 | Iriel | Or do a WoW UI style version and link that (and fix the typos) |
| 21:06.19 | Fisker- | slouken is hot |
| 21:06.28 | ZealotOnAStick | I'd think the best way to do it would be have someone run around popping eggs like mad, perhaps a Paladin, then have them pop Consecrate and then Seed a few. |
| 21:06.32 | |pez| | Doesn't Seera have a h? like... Seerah ? |
| 21:06.33 | clad|sleep | and photoshop cladhaire into it! |
| 21:06.51 | Iriel | |pez|:Yes, she does |
| 21:06.54 | End | |pez|: TC is bad |
| 21:06.57 | clad|sleep | ZealotOnAStick: or run in sprinting as a druid, with starfall + thorns on, shift out and hurricane |
| 21:06.59 | Syzgyn | This is news? |
| 21:06.59 | clad|sleep | ZealotOnAStick: easy peasy |
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| 21:07.11 | End | Not only does Thunder_Child not know how to play, but he doesn't know how to spell either |
| 21:07.34 | Thunder_Child | I HATE YOU ALL |
| 21:07.50 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: We ha.... never mind 8-) |
| 21:08.20 | Fisker- | "Kaelteen" = win though |
| 21:08.23 | NeoTron | I think you overestimate the difficulty of the leeroy achievement |
| 21:08.53 | End | How much health do those whelps have? |
| 21:09.05 | clad|sleep | like none |
| 21:09.07 | clad|sleep | and we'll be level 80 |
| 21:09.16 | clad|sleep | it'll be simple :P |
| 21:09.16 | Mikk | Oh, the prolly die from a level 70 prot pally consa |
| 21:09.16 | Syzgyn | <3k |
| 21:09.23 | clad|sleep | HEARTK YOU TOO SYZGYN! |
| 21:09.27 | Syzgyn | Er |
| 21:09.30 | Syzgyn | haha |
| 21:09.35 | bleeter | if anyone has a US account with an authenticator, log in to acount management now for Tomcat error fun++ |
| 21:09.42 | Syzgyn | OMG <3 CLAD OMG |
| 21:10.31 | Arrowmaster | clad|sleep: you mean your not going to do the leeroy achievement tomorrow? |
| 21:10.41 | sylvanaar | lol thats a fun one |
| 21:10.46 | End | it's gotta be a lot less than 3k, or I can't do it at level 70 :P |
| 21:10.54 | clad|sleep | Arrowmaster: no, because I"m EU |
| 21:11.00 | End | it'd take me longer than 15 seconds to cast enough seeds to do that much damage |
| 21:11.05 | clad|sleep | and my US account is cancelled |
| 21:11.09 | End | stupid damage caps |
| 21:11.26 | sylvanaar | you can hono the whelps |
| 21:11.38 | End | hono? |
| 21:11.45 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 21:11.46 | jaxdahl2 | honor? |
| 21:11.50 | jaxdahl2 | solo? |
| 21:11.52 | End | wtf is hono? o_O |
| 21:11.53 | Maldivia | hmm, will tomorrows patch bring blizzard account login aswell |
| 21:11.59 | clad|sleep | Maldivia: no, they backed tha tout |
| 21:12.03 | sylvanaar | gawd you all play melee dont you |
| 21:12.12 | NeoTron | what is that blizzard account login thing anyway? |
| 21:12.15 | clad|sleep | Maldivia: But I suspect it'll come with 3.1 |
| 21:12.24 | Maldivia | ok |
| 21:12.25 | clad|sleep | NeoTron: centralised battle.net authentication |
| 21:12.27 | NeoTron | how does it handle the same email being used on more than one account for example? |
| 21:12.30 | bleeter | clad|sleep: ah, that might explain account login breakage atm |
| 21:12.30 | sylvanaar | Ho(ly)No(va) |
| 21:12.37 | NeoTron | since the login seems to be the email |
| 21:12.40 | Syzgyn | End: *shrug* probably, I just read what wowhead had |
| 21:12.43 | End | well, at 3k health I'd have to do 150000 damage, and with damage caps that's about 11 seeds :P |
| 21:12.43 | clad|sleep | NeoTron: We don't know :P |
| 21:12.44 | jaxdahl2 | why don't you call it Lyva |
| 21:12.49 | clad|sleep | they haven't released all the details |
| 21:12.49 | Maldivia | clad: bugger, I wanted my pet :´| |
| 21:12.50 | jaxdahl2 | that'd be less confusing for everyone |
| 21:12.55 | clad|sleep | we just know we'll get cool shit for using it |
| 21:12.56 | clad|sleep | yay pets! |
| 21:13.01 | bleeter | rawr |
| 21:13.04 | sylvanaar | i hurricained them |
| 21:13.06 | NeoTron | it'd be hawt if you login and can select which wow account to use, or get a unified view somehow |
| 21:13.07 | jaxdahl2 | end, timer doesn't start til you kill the first one |
| 21:13.07 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 21:13.20 | Maldivia | clad: also, was kind of hoping I could get my EU and US account on the same blizzard account |
| 21:13.21 | sylvanaar | at lol-fullmana |
| 21:13.43 | Arrowmaster | speaking of pets |
| 21:13.53 | End | I suspect they have closer to 1000 hp anyways :P |
| 21:14.02 | sylvanaar | yeah, about that |
| 21:14.06 | Maldivia | Arrowmaster: time to fly to every corner of the world and buy them? |
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| 21:14.08 | Arrowmaster | has anybody heard anything about collectors editions and any stores getting more preorders? |
| 21:14.09 | jaxdahl2 | NeoTron, well i would hope having one account banned wouldn't get your other accounts banned if they're on the same blizzard account, for whatever reason |
| 21:14.09 | clad|sleep | Maldivia: same, we'll have to see how it works out |
| 21:14.11 | sylvanaar | you can hono them, so its not much hp |
| 21:14.12 | End | oh they do have about 2600 hp |
| 21:14.17 | clad|sleep | and this is specifically whey I think they'd held off |
| 21:14.18 | NeoTron | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?npc=10161 |
| 21:14.21 | clad|sleep | would be too much change at once :P |
| 21:14.34 | Arrowmaster | since Ike fucked me over and i couldnt preorder a CE |
| 21:14.51 | clad|sleep | I don't have a classic CE |
| 21:14.52 | clad|sleep | =( |
| 21:14.54 | clad|sleep | or shit |
| 21:14.55 | Maldivia | Arrowmaster: I'm planning on just going to the store and buying the CE there :) |
| 21:14.55 | clad|sleep | or a BC CE |
| 21:14.58 | clad|sleep | now that I moved to EU |
| 21:14.59 | clad|sleep | boo |
| 21:15.02 | sylvanaar | i have a bc ce |
| 21:15.08 | sylvanaar | oh i see |
| 21:15.11 | foxlit | c'mon, Coldarra. |
| 21:15.26 | foxlit | Get back up so I can write some code :/ |
| 21:15.32 | sylvanaar | buy the trading cards they have some neat ingame stuff |
| 21:15.40 | sylvanaar | like the disco thing |
| 21:15.44 | sylvanaar | i love that |
| 21:15.52 | Arrowmaster | wtb onyxia kite |
| 21:16.16 | sylvanaar | yay time to go home |
| 21:16.22 | Maldivia | hmm, wonder if it'll be 9061 going live, or an untested build |
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| 21:16.43 | End | QA tested you mean? |
| 21:16.47 | End | oh right, that means untested |
| 21:16.48 | End | ;-p |
| 21:16.58 | Maldivia | untested - as in no beta, no ptr |
| 21:17.04 | jaxdahl2 | have any of you ever ascended a character in nethack? |
| 21:17.12 | End | yes |
| 21:17.14 | End | but I cheated |
| 21:17.17 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 21:17.18 | Maldivia | anyone at blizzcon noticed what version they were running there? |
| 21:17.19 | End | <-- is a dirty cheater |
| 21:17.22 | Arrowmaster | i die too often |
| 21:17.25 | jaxdahl2 | cheated how? wizard mode? |
| 21:17.28 | End | yea |
| 21:17.41 | jaxdahl2 | ascended 6 times in 286 games (2.10%): 3xVal 2xWiz 1xBar, 3xHum 2xElf 1xOrc, 4xMal 2xFem, 4xCha 2xLaw |
| 21:17.45 | Arrowmaster | i tend to eat the wrong stuff too much or starve |
| 21:18.03 | End | without cheating...I haven't even made it to hell |
| 21:18.07 | jaxdahl2 | yea it takes a while to learn what you can and can't eat. it changes with the race you are too |
| 21:18.18 | End | I made it to the castle level once though |
| 21:18.25 | End | actually more than once |
| 21:18.34 | End | I've been killed by the drawbridge at least once |
| 21:18.36 | jaxdahl2 | a good player that makes it to castle can win most of the time |
| 21:18.54 | Arrowmaster | im a nethack noob |
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| 21:19.08 | End | I'm not really sure how to get past the castle level |
| 21:19.16 | jaxdahl2 | when i first played the game i didn't think there was an actual win objective.. i thought you just had to go as deep as you could |
| 21:19.33 | clad|sleep | lol |
| 21:19.33 | clad|sleep | http://imageshack.dk//viewimage.php?file=/imagesfree/zBl93091.jpg |
| 21:19.37 | Arrowmaster | last time i played nethack i was starting to attempt mine town speed runs |
| 21:19.42 | mikma | Reward: The Schools of Arcane Magic - Mastery |
| 21:19.46 | mikma | what is that? |
| 21:19.47 | jaxdahl2 | you can dig down past castle or go through the trap doors in the back of the castle |
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| 21:19.59 | jaxdahl2 | mikma, nobody knows |
| 21:20.02 | End | and clad|sleep is a poor man |
| 21:20.09 | jaxdahl2 | the introduction book -- nobody knows where it is |
| 21:20.17 | End | clad|sleep: get a job, hippy! |
| 21:20.28 | clad|sleep | DO I LOOK DK TO YOU? |
| 21:20.30 | clad|sleep | NEIN! |
| 21:20.36 | ScytheBlade1 | clad|sleep: that picture is win |
| 21:20.46 | clad|sleep | ScytheBlade1: #ravencrest |
| 21:20.46 | clad|sleep | so |
| 21:20.48 | clad|sleep | like |
| 21:20.50 | clad|sleep | i need a guild |
| 21:20.53 | End | well..fine! |
| 21:20.54 | clad|sleep | and a server, really |
| 21:20.59 | ScytheBlade1 | clad|sleep: and sleep |
| 21:21.03 | clad|sleep | word |
| 21:21.12 | NeoTron | Kilrogg... US... hehe |
| 21:21.16 | clad|sleep | EU |
| 21:21.34 | clad|sleep | such a sad, sad facebook group |
| 21:21.34 | clad|sleep | http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=30240027105 |
| 21:21.39 | NeoTron | I am aware |
| 21:21.42 | NeoTron | that's why I said hehe |
| 21:21.57 | ScytheBlade1 | clad|sleep: two. Winnar. |
| 21:22.06 | ScytheBlade1 | haha wait |
| 21:22.09 | ScytheBlade1 | What's this? |
| 21:22.13 | ScytheBlade1 | The Cladhaire fan club? |
| 21:22.25 | ScytheBlade1 | ELEVEN MEMBERS?! |
| 21:22.28 | jaxdahl2 | no creation date on that facebook group? |
| 21:22.55 | Josh_Borke | clad|sleep: oh my |
| 21:23.01 | foxlit | You know, there's something awesome about the death chicken. |
| 21:23.04 | Thunder_Child | http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=15123678347 |
| 21:23.08 | foxlit | You can mount it while flying other mounts |
| 21:23.26 | foxlit | whereas attempting to mount anything else dismounts you. |
| 21:23.53 | foxlit | And it works in combat |
| 21:25.34 | NeoTron | http://eongames.com/tmp/ScreenShot_100508_122233.jpeg |
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| 21:25.49 | NeoTron | and if you mount it on a vehicle mount.. you actually mount it on top of the vehicle |
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| 21:26.50 | Dewin | Interesting. How does one acquire a death chicken? |
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| 21:27.13 | Shirik|Ecole | by killing a regular chicken |
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| 21:27.15 | Shirik|Ecole | obviously |
| 21:27.17 | NeoTron | roll a deathknight |
| 21:27.19 | Shirik|Ecole | but then the chicken needs to free himself from arthas |
| 21:27.23 | Shirik|Ecole | and do that walk of shame past the crabs |
| 21:27.26 | Thunder_Child | Shirik|Ecole, that would be a 'dead chicken' |
| 21:27.47 | Tem | NeoTron: you buy it at EbonHold |
| 21:27.49 | NeoTron | oh and when you dismount the vehicle mount, you remain mounted on the chicken |
| 21:27.59 | Tem | er |
| 21:28.01 | NeoTron | so it's doubly fun to do when you have a passenger and jump off a high cliff |
| 21:28.07 | kd3 | gah, waking up at 17:30 eastern after taking a red-eye |
| 21:28.09 | NeoTron | Tem: yes |
| 21:28.13 | Tem | Dewin: you buy it in Ebon Hold |
| 21:28.15 | kd3 | my wake/sleep cycle's screwed for a while |
| 21:28.20 | Tem | to my knowledge, only DKs can get there |
| 21:28.28 | NeoTron | ayup |
| 21:28.32 | Tem | kd3: I overslept today as well |
| 21:28.38 | Shirik|Ecole | me too! |
| 21:28.42 | Iriel | Me threee |
| 21:28.43 | foxlit | Not to be confused with Death of Chikens |
| 21:28.44 | Arrowmaster | party members cant take the death gate? |
| 21:28.46 | Iriel | but then I had to come to work 8-( |
| 21:28.49 | Shirik|Ecole | I missed all my classes today, barely made it to my lab |
| 21:29.06 | Shirik|Ecole | I wish I lived in California so I could wake up 3 hours later than the rest of the world |
| 21:29.08 | Syzgyn | Correct Arrowmaster |
| 21:29.12 | kamdis | No Death Gate for party members unless they are DKs also. |
| 21:29.21 | NeoTron | so Blizzard should let you buy additional "talent respec slots" |
| 21:29.31 | NeoTron | so I could have tank, dps, pvp specs for example :P |
| 21:29.41 | Syzgyn | Shirik: But then you'd be falling asleep 3 hours earlier too |
| 21:29.42 | foxlit | Hm, let's see |
| 21:29.53 | Shirik|Ecole | No Syzgyn, 3 hours later |
| 21:29.55 | kamdis | Shirik, that's nonsensical. Hawaii wakes up 3 hours later than California! |
| 21:29.58 | Syzgyn | Er, yea |
| 21:30.09 | bleeter | meh, you're all backwards and behind the times |
| 21:30.22 | Aii | kamdis dinged me o.o |
| 21:30.24 | Syzgyn | ~lart NightHawkTheSan1 |
| 21:30.24 | purl | nabs the moon and broadsides NightHawkTheSan1 with the sea of tranquility |
| 21:30.28 | Aii | :P |
| 21:30.29 | foxlit | you'd respec to a third spec say... once every day; let's say they make you pay for another respec to go back to your original two. |
| 21:30.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Syzgyn: : ( |
| 21:30.43 | foxlit | So 100g for the whole adventure... let's say for two years. |
| 21:31.23 | kamdis | Aii, unintentional, but HELLO THERE! :-) |
| 21:31.23 | Syzgyn | Hey, you're the one on the murdering spree |
| 21:31.24 | foxlit | 73000g is a reasonable price :) |
| 21:31.24 | kamdis | You'd go broke reglyphing yourself. |
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| 21:32.40 | Shirik|Ecole | Is "Maintained By" really a new field in TOC? |
| 21:32.46 | Shirik|Ecole | Or is that just a meaningless comment |
| 21:32.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Probably meaningless |
| 21:33.19 | Iriel | I wish people wouldn't add 'unofficial' fields withotu sticking X- in front of them or whatever |
| 21:33.19 | NightHawkTheSane | my life is a meaningless comment.. |
| 21:33.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Agreed @ Iriel |
| 21:33.36 | Shirik|Ecole | I agree |
| 21:33.41 | Iriel | Uh oh, forum go boom |
| 21:33.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Iriel: bug blizzard to make wow ignore mods that don't :) |
| 21:33.49 | Shirik|Ecole | Conspiracy's extra fields all started with X- :) |
| 21:33.55 | ScytheBlade1 | And yeah, the forums just went boom |
| 21:34.02 | End | You can't read them in game unless they have X- or are one of the official ones anyways |
| 21:34.16 | Shirik|Ecole | orly? |
| 21:34.23 | nevcairiel | truth |
| 21:34.23 | Shirik|Ecole | Didn't know that, I just did it for consistency |
| 21:34.32 | nevcairiel | cant even read all the official ones |
| 21:34.35 | nevcairiel | like OptDeps |
| 21:34.40 | Zootfizzle | We could change it so that unofficial non X- fields are displayed in popup windows whenever you enter the game ;) |
| 21:34.42 | Zootfizzle | People would stop! |
| 21:34.49 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 21:34.51 | End | lol |
| 21:34.51 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd be genius |
| 21:34.53 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 21:34.54 | Iriel | Zootfizzle: AND You're forced to enter their values, backwards |
| 21:35.00 | ScytheBlade1 | "wtf is all of this????" |
| 21:35.02 | NeoTron | the main benefit of their planned multi-spec system is that action bars and possibly also glyphs would change with the spec |
| 21:35.07 | Iriel | (pastey i'm looking at you) |
| 21:35.12 | nevcairiel | Iriel: i already hate on pastey for that :( |
| 21:35.13 | Shirik|Ecole | lolol |
| 21:35.22 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:35.26 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't have a problem with that on pastey, my problem is counting how many times it's in there |
| 21:35.27 | Iriel | I had to paste an XML document yesterday |
| 21:35.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Enable cookies and go |
| 21:35.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Obviously that isn't a link that should be spread everywhere but it was linked in here before :) |
| 21:36.00 | Iriel | ScytheBlade1: Nice |
| 21:36.08 | Shirik|Ecole | ScytheBlade1: That's awesome |
| 21:36.10 | ScytheBlade1 | It is |
| 21:36.12 | Syzgyn | Wow hot |
| 21:36.18 | ScytheBlade1 | (Fun teaser: check out the cookie name) |
| 21:36.27 | Fisker- | hows blizzcon Shirik? |
| 21:36.27 | Arrowmaster | yeah i had to go digging for it in my logs last time somebody asked about it |
| 21:37.07 | Shirik|Ecole | NotASpammer: IndeedilyDoodily |
| 21:37.08 | Shirik|Ecole | rofl |
| 21:37.13 | ScytheBlade1 | :) |
| 21:37.14 | End | haha |
| 21:37.22 | Arrowmaster | it changed? |
| 21:37.35 | Fisker- | Shirik|Ecole = flanders :( |
| 21:37.46 | End | Fisker-: Indeedy Doodily |
| 21:37.58 | Arrowmaster | i swore it was something else before |
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| 21:41.14 | Shirik|Ecole | Thunder_Child: ping |
| 21:43.09 | Shirik|Ecole | oh well, I have to run. I shall return! |
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| 21:48.24 | zenzelezz | PUGs can be so demanding on gear and skill these days |
| 21:48.34 | zenzelezz | "are u tank?" "yes" "wanna be MT in ZA last spot" |
| 21:49.15 | Lukian | zenzelezz, lol yeah :/ |
| 21:49.25 | Lukian | I got into heal gruuls at about 1.3k on my resto shaman |
| 21:49.43 | Lukian | oh, enh shaman I mean, that was the first time I'd ever healed as a shaman :p |
| 21:50.07 | Tem | The first time I ever specced resto on my Druid was for MH |
| 21:50.20 | Tem | I had an offspec healing set at best |
| 21:50.27 | Tem | (1300 healing) |
| 21:50.34 | Tem | and I had never healed before |
| 21:50.44 | Tem | good times |
| 21:50.50 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, just spam chain heal, its all good |
| 21:50.54 | Lukian | :D |
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| 21:57.00 | Amarande | say, is this true that "of the Shattered Sun" is being taken out along with the Hand of A'dal and Champion of the Naaru titles? |
| 21:57.26 | zenzelezz | "taken out"? |
| 21:57.42 | NightHawkTheSane | i've not heard that, but i suppose it could be true *shrug* |
| 21:57.50 | NeoTron | of the shattered sun wasn't exactly ever hard to get |
| 21:57.56 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 21:57.57 | zenzelezz | as in removed, or impossible to attain after the patch? |
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| 21:58.05 | Amarande | zenzelezz: as in you will no longer be able to get it |
| 21:58.13 | Amarande | in other words, I'd better spend my money now if I want it |
| 21:58.17 | NightHawkTheSane | zenzelezz: yes, 'Hand of 'Adal" and "Champion of the Naaru" will no longer be able to be acquired post 3.0 |
| 21:58.29 | Amarande | also, is it true that they flipflopped again and decided there WILL be an honor wipe? |
| 21:58.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: if they did, they would have said so on the forums. check there. |
| 21:58.55 | zenzelezz | I'm still too cheap to get "of the Shattered Sun" |
| 21:59.05 | NightHawkTheSane | If you want the title, get it now, if they don't remove it, no big deal. *shrug* |
| 21:59.09 | zenzelezz | besides, I'd never use it |
| 22:00.56 | zenzelezz | I'm really looking forward to the achivement titles, finally some there that I'll use |
| 22:03.13 | zenzelezz | guessing I won't be able to be Ambassador Zenzio Jenkins though :-/ |
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| 22:04.44 | NightHawkTheSane | no |
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| 22:06.04 | zenzelezz | pity, would be fun if you could have both a prefix and postfix (or whatever the appropriate expressions are) titles |
| 22:06.23 | NeoTron | agrees |
| 22:06.45 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjEOD39tLiM |
| 22:06.56 | Iriel | I suspect it gets tricky, there will be people who want two prefixes then, and they may localize differently and cause upsetness elsewhere |
| 22:06.58 | linear` | * NEW - CancelUnitBuff("unit", index or "spell" [,"filter" or "rank"]) |
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| 22:07.04 | linear` | does that mean i can cancel my buffs on party members? |
| 22:07.10 | Iriel | I doubt it |
| 22:07.17 | Iriel | Though maybe on your pet |
| 22:07.24 | Shirik | rofl kd3 |
| 22:07.27 | kd3 | say wha? |
| 22:07.33 | NightHawkTheSane | hahaha |
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| 22:09.21 | Amarande | hmm |
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| 22:09.28 | Amarande | is my experiencefu broken or did they raise the max rested xp? |
| 22:09.34 | Amarande | I'm told I have 153.3% rested xp |
| 22:09.41 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: ... bacon! http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/you_asked_for_bacon |
| 22:11.35 | Pneumatus | i think its restfu playing up, i had one of my chars showing 162% at one point |
| 22:11.49 | Shirik | that's kinda difficult to screw up though |
| 22:11.52 | Pneumatus | (/experiencefu) |
| 22:11.54 | Shirik | it's a straightforward calculation |
| 22:12.14 | Pneumatus | it fixed itself after i logged into the alt a couple of times tho |
| 22:12.22 | Shirik | strange |
| 22:13.13 | ScytheBlade1 | NightHawkTheSane: goodness wow |
| 22:13.54 | Iriel | That reminds me of Tem's blizzcon meal (Thursday night?) |
| 22:14.25 | Tem | hah |
| 22:14.27 | Pneumatus | would: /target [nofocus] Shadowsword Berserker work? |
| 22:14.34 | Tem | My burger was better than that looks |
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| 22:14.52 | foxlit | Hm, PA drawing style changed. |
| 22:16.19 | End | the background styling did |
| 22:16.29 | End | s/styling/texturing/ |
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| 22:18.51 | foxlit | gr, I can never quote remember what zip expects to be given as the -x option |
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| 22:20.06 | mikma | i just use tar for that =/ |
| 22:20.51 | Duman | you can either give it a filename or pattern, or @file to read a list from a file |
| 22:21.12 | foxlit | Yeah, excellent, that's what the man page says |
| 22:21.12 | Amarande | hmm |
| 22:21.27 | Amarande | speaking of that, is there a good free command line unzip utility for vista that I can mass extract zips with? |
| 22:21.28 | Duman | don't forget to escape any pattern, tho |
| 22:21.34 | foxlit | Now, in zip -r file.zip foo, how would you exclude the foo/bar subdir? |
| 22:21.46 | Amarande | it's quite irritating to have to unzip my entire slew of addons one by one |
| 22:21.50 | Amarande | and I'm gonna have to do it again tomorrow. |
| 22:22.03 | Duman | -x foo/bar/ didn't work? |
| 22:22.12 | foxlit | no |
| 22:22.15 | Duman | or perhaps '-x foor/bar/\*' |
| 22:22.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: hm, select all -> right click -> extract or whatever doesn't work? |
| 22:22.20 | Duman | -r |
| 22:22.21 | foxlit | still no |
| 22:22.42 | Duman | not sure |
| 22:22.50 | Amarande | Night: last time I did that, it only extracted the one I actually right clicked on |
| 22:23.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: that seems silly. |
| 22:23.07 | Amarande | that + the fact that I have to use 7-zip (which seems to lack this support either as far as I know) anyway |
| 22:23.19 | Amarande | since certain addons (auctioneer, especially) seem to crash Explorer when I try to unzip them via Windows |
| 22:23.49 | mikma | foxlit: zip -r file.zip foo -x ./bar ? |
| 22:24.02 | foxlit | mikma: foo/bar, not ./bar :) |
| 22:24.26 | mikma | bar dir under foo? |
| 22:24.31 | foxlit | yes. |
| 22:24.48 | foxlit | It's -x "foo/bar/*" apparently |
| 22:25.07 | mikma | looks something about right |
| 22:25.07 | foxlit | Which is fairly close to what Duman said, so I suppose I rushed a bit with that still no :) |
| 22:25.09 | Duman | -x foo/bar/\* didn't work? |
| 22:25.46 | mikma | ... tar zcvf ../public_html/wow/ui.tar.gz AddOns --exclude ".svn" --exclude ".git" |
| 22:25.49 | mikma | win! |
| 22:29.07 | NightHawkTheSane | hah, oh man.. http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/1999/19990514h.jpg |
| 22:30.49 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 22:30.51 | purl | ~pong |
| 22:31.03 | Lunessa | You know it's going to be a long day when the server your install images and printer queues blows up at 5:20 |
| 22:31.05 | Amarande | So ... did they decide that click-off of buffs in 3.0 was or was not to be a protected function? |
| 22:31.39 | Amarande | I use EBB, so it's important to me to know :) |
| 22:34.09 | Shirik | hrm |
| 22:34.12 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: ping |
| 22:34.28 | mikma | Fisker-: ping |
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| 22:49.48 | linear` | does getspellinfo return a table |
| 22:50.02 | linear` | in 3.0 |
| 22:51.12 | Sixen | Tawr! |
| 22:51.20 | Sixen | Rawr!* |
| 22:51.23 | linear` | nvm |
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| 22:54.49 | Shirik | hrm, checkstyle isn't working for me |
| 22:54.53 | Shirik | I must have made the ant task wrong |
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| 22:58.37 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
| 22:58.56 | mikma | must have been furry |
| 22:58.58 | NeoTron | Sixen: so got to ask - will you play DK in live? |
| 22:59.23 | Sixen | NeoTron: Yar, i'm definietly making a DK named Sixen on my server... Going to use that as my posting avatar, it'll be my alt. |
| 22:59.31 | Shirik | Iriel: You around? I'm having some issues with checkstyle and it appears checkstyle's webpage is down >.> |
| 23:00.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: pong |
| 23:00.06 | Shirik | nm it got fixed |
| 23:00.11 | Shirik | did I ping you? |
| 23:00.20 | ScytheBlade1 | 18:34 <@Shirik> ScytheBlade1: ping |
| 23:00.25 | Shirik | hi |
| 23:00.35 | ScytheBlade1 | sup |
| 23:04.31 | Shirik | setting up checkstyle is apparently harder than I thought |
| 23:04.47 | Shirik | .\build.xml:73: Unable to create a Checker: unable to read .\checkstyle.xml - unable to parse configuration stream - Document is invalid: no grammar found.:1:8 |
| 23:04.55 | Shirik | :< |
| 23:05.06 | ScytheBlade1 | You broke your .xml file |
| 23:05.09 | Shirik | yes I did |
| 23:05.59 | Shirik | oh I just forgot the <!DOCTYPE blah blah |
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| 23:06.26 | Shirik | yey it works |
| 23:06.29 | Shirik | though there's no errors |
| 23:06.37 | Shirik | do you have a configuration xml file for yours, ScytheBlade1? |
| 23:06.46 | Shirik | I was curious to compare to what you have if you do |
| 23:08.27 | Dewin | What is this checkstyle you speak of? |
| 23:08.39 | ScytheBlade1 | 22:00 <@Iriel> ScytheBlade1: http://wow.pastey.net/98124 |
| 23:08.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Have Iriel's |
| 23:09.01 | Shirik | oh wow |
| 23:09.04 | Shirik | that's a lot more checks |
| 23:09.19 | ScytheBlade1 | You should really really use the Eclipse plugin to generate a .xml file |
| 23:09.21 | ScytheBlade1 | It's amazingly nice |
| 23:10.16 | Shirik | well that broke something |
| 23:10.21 | Shirik | I don't use eclipse so I can't do that |
| 23:10.23 | Shirik | Running Checkstyle 5.0-beta01 on 0 files |
| 23:10.25 | Shirik | :< |
| 23:10.48 | Shirik | oh but it works when I use standard build |
| 23:11.44 | Shirik | yey Running Checkstyle 5.0-beta01 on 34 files |
| 23:11.46 | Shirik | And no errors |
| 23:11.51 | Shirik | so either something's broke or my style is awesome |
| 23:11.51 | ScytheBlade1 | It'll issue warnings |
| 23:12.19 | Shirik | import java.io.*; is illegal, right? |
| 23:12.22 | Shirik | no star imports? |
| 23:12.32 | ScytheBlade1 | It'll issue a warning |
| 23:12.46 | Shirik | yeah I don't see anything :( |
| 23:12.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Less crappy IDE imo |
| 23:13.01 | Shirik | netbeans blows eclipse out of the water |
| 23:13.05 | Shirik | just need to get this ant script right |
| 23:15.27 | ScytheBlade1 | "Sbo of the Shattered Sun" - riding around on a Cenarion War Hippogryph |
| 23:15.28 | ScytheBlade1 | yey |
| 23:16.24 | Shirik | wtb money |
| 23:16.25 | Shirik | ty |
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| 23:16.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Know what's awesome? Making money raiding |
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| 23:17.26 | foxlit | "ScytheBlade1: Less crappy IDE imo" or l2option :) |
| 23:17.43 | ScytheBlade1 | -or- he could just fail less |
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| 23:21.28 | foxlit | or -he- could just fail less :) |
| 23:22.33 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:22.49 | Wobin | oh wow. I'm totally going to get -that- for the ANTI-BACTERIAL keyboard... |
| 23:22.56 | Wobin | wtf? |
| 23:23.37 | Mikk | it's for the crazed americans |
| 23:23.58 | p3lim | whats the best hunter wep speed? |
| 23:23.59 | p3lim | (ranged) |
| 23:24.02 | p3lim | im BM |
| 23:24.11 | p3lim | (for steady cycles) |
| 23:24.12 | Wobin | just slightly longer than autoshot |
| 23:24.25 | Wobin | after talent reductions |
| 23:24.44 | Mikk | ehm.... autoshot = weapon speed :P |
| 23:24.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: does it even matter anymore? now that shots don't clip? |
| 23:24.49 | Mikk | itym steady |
| 23:25.05 | p3lim | im thinking pre |
| 23:25.06 | Mikk | NightHawkTheSane: huh? what now are you talking about? |
| 23:25.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: .. hunter shots don't clip auto shot in 3.0 |
| 23:25.19 | p3lim | tbc, not wotlk |
| 23:25.27 | kd3 | hm |
| 23:25.28 | Mikk | p3lim: well that changes tomorrow |
| 23:25.33 | p3lim | tomorrow? |
| 23:25.33 | Mikk | so erm... who cares? =P |
| 23:25.35 | kd3 | guess I should get started writing my "it's patch day!" sticky |
| 23:26.12 | p3lim | you sure the patch is tomorrow? |
| 23:26.33 | Syzgyn | 99.9% sure |
| 23:26.42 | p3lim | havent seen any notice about it |
| 23:26.48 | Mikk | it's apparently been confirmed on .eu forums |
| 23:26.49 | Syzgyn | The 12 hour maintenance? |
| 23:26.55 | p3lim | neat |
| 23:27.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Chances are amazingly high that we'll see 3.0.2 tomorrow |
| 23:27.16 | p3lim | explains why everyone is updating their addons for 3.0 tho' |
| 23:27.17 | Mikk | indeed |
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| 23:27.43 | duaiwe | qwest needs to die in a fire. |
| 23:28.18 | Mikk | but yeah i wouldnt mind a blue saying "tomorrow" somewhere on us forums :S |
| 23:28.33 | Wobin | I would be highly amused if the patch didn't occur =) |
| 23:28.34 | p3lim | anyways, just wrote a AutoShot plugin for oUF |
| 23:28.40 | p3lim | uploaded it to wowi |
| 23:29.02 | Shirik | YES! |
| 23:29.03 | Shirik | It works |
| 23:29.04 | Wobin | "Sorry, no, we just decided we needed to vaccuum out the dust in the servers" |
| 23:31.20 | Syzgyn | Wobin: Real geeks house their PC's in a Vacuum. |
| 23:31.46 | Wobin | Syzgyn: nah, you only need positive pressure in the case |
| 23:32.10 | foxlit | Syzgyn: heat dissipation. |
| 23:32.19 | Syzgyn | Yea, I was just wondering how that'd work then |
| 23:32.23 | p3lim | aimedshot becomes instant in the patch too? |
| 23:32.34 | NightHawkTheSane | p3lim: yes |
| 23:32.34 | foxlit | Well, if you were lazy, you'd just say "watercooling" |
| 23:32.43 | p3lim | neat, no need to check the aimed shot then |
| 23:32.57 | p3lim | is there anything that could interrupt the auto shot then? |
| 23:33.05 | p3lim | new spells or something |
| 23:33.45 | |Jelly| | ~hug Shirik |
| 23:33.46 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Shirik |
| 23:33.46 | Kaso | Housing a PC in a vacuum? wouldnt that be pretty horrific, relying on just radiation to dissipate heat |
| 23:34.13 | NightHawkTheSane | p3lim: as far as i'm aware, the only things that would interrpt autoshot are movement, stuns, etc. |
| 23:34.23 | p3lim | yap, then im safe for now :) |
| 23:34.45 | Shirik | YES! |
| 23:34.47 | Shirik | I crashed Netbeans |
| 23:34.48 | Shirik | go me |
| 23:34.52 | NightHawkTheSane | the major point of the change was for just that reason, so hunters didn't have to watch their auto shots |
| 23:34.53 | foxlit | Kaso: well, internal convection. |
| 23:34.55 | Syzgyn | Kaso: I would guess that if heat can pass through a vacuum easily enough, so can the absence of heat. |
| 23:35.02 | Amarande | dangit, the new patch is making me want to go to BT |
| 23:35.11 | Syzgyn | So put it all in a freezer? :P |
| 23:35.22 | Wobin | Kaso: I guess, house the PC in a vacuum in deep space |
| 23:35.29 | foxlit | Syzgyn: l2freezer :) |
| 23:35.35 | Wobin | Transfer speeds may be problematic |
| 23:35.40 | Syzgyn | I just said that! |
| 23:35.45 | foxlit | They don't work in vacuum :) |
| 23:35.46 | NightHawkTheSane | >.> heat really doesn't transfer through a vacuum. |
| 23:36.00 | Syzgyn | Tell that to a lightbulb? |
| 23:36.03 | Wobin | NightHawkTheSane: Tell that to the sun? |
| 23:36.11 | NightHawkTheSane | space isn't really a true vaccuum. |
| 23:36.16 | Syzgyn | ... |
| 23:36.27 | Wobin | ... that would suck =P |
| 23:36.34 | Syzgyn | Like a black hole. |
| 23:36.34 | Wobin | ~rimshot |
| 23:36.35 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 23:37.15 | kd3 | ok. looking for end-user information for the 3.0 patch |
| 23:37.17 | Syzgyn | Wobin: 3 Elephants fall out of a plane. The first two hit land, the 3rd hits water |
| 23:37.18 | Kaso | without getting to the philosophical issues of a true vacuum, radiated heat travels fine through a vacuum, its just that PC cooling doesnt usually use radiators but fans and other convection based cooling |
| 23:37.20 | Syzgyn | ~rimshot |
| 23:37.20 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 23:37.38 | foxlit | But seriously, if you made the components out of something that would conduct heat, then linked the whole thing up to some sort of liquid/heatsink heat exchange out of the vacuum box, you could have both the vacuum and the cooling. |
| 23:37.46 | Wobin | Syzgyn: Two elephants and a drum kit fall off a cliff |
| 23:37.47 | Syzgyn | Yep |
| 23:37.49 | Wobin | ~rimshot |
| 23:37.49 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 23:37.53 | Syzgyn | hehe |
| 23:37.59 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: omen2 is dead. omen3 lives on. That'll be important. |
| 23:38.01 | ZorbaTHut | kaso, it would be pretty neat to set up a tower of Peltiers or something to produce white-hot radiative cooling fins in a vacuum, though |
| 23:38.03 | ZorbaTHut | ridiculously stupid |
| 23:38.06 | ZorbaTHut | but it'd look cool :D |
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| 23:38.31 | Kaso | lol |
| 23:38.39 | Wobin | and real geeks always go for the cooler looking solution |
| 23:38.47 | Wobin | despite the difficulty in maintaining it |
| 23:38.56 | foxlit | cooler cooler looking solution? |
| 23:39.17 | Wobin | Naturally |
| 23:43.31 | Duman | hmm |
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| 23:54.53 | p3lim | is files.wowace.com taking from the new svn? |
| 23:54.57 | Shirik | *(*@#%(*!% |
| 23:55.00 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1, guess what I just found |
| 23:55.14 | Pytlask | your conscience? |
| 23:55.29 | Shirik | http://www.sickboy.cz/checkstyle/download.html |
| 23:55.43 | Aznamir | p3lim: Not anymore |
| 23:56.02 | p3lim | anything to compensate it? |
| 23:56.14 | Aznamir | curseforge |
| 23:56.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: nice |
| 23:56.22 | Aznamir | or curse |
| 23:56.31 | Mikk | the curse client |
| 23:56.37 | Mikk | will do roughly what wau did |
| 23:56.57 | Aznamir | god help us tomorrow |
| 23:58.02 | kd3 | blah. suppose I should have a "where the hell is files.wowace.com?" question now too |
| 23:58.09 | Iriel | Just to comment on the earlier discussion, a vacuum is the WORST possible medium for your PC components |
| 23:58.19 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: probably |
| 23:58.25 | Mikk | Yes, heat dissipation was mentioned :P |
| 23:58.29 | Iriel | You want to maximize heat conduction to the environment, not minimize it |
| 23:58.57 | Iriel | (thus the effectiveness of full immersion in fluorinert etc) |
| 23:59.36 | p3lim | any comments?: http://pastey.net/98198 |
| 23:59.45 | Shirik | wait, who was having this conversation? |
| 23:59.50 | Shirik | And yes what Iriel says is true :) |
| 23:59.55 | Iriel | p3lim: dont use select like that, it's wasteful |
