| 00:00.22 | NightHawkTheSane | not really |
| 00:00.23 | Duman | zomg new build |
| 00:00.31 | NightHawkTheSane | a lot of languages have IRC bindings |
| 00:00.41 | kd3 | anyone know the build number? |
| 00:00.44 | Antiarc | LocBot: Where is Dewin? |
| 00:00.45 | LocBot | Antiarc: Dewin is in Tualatin, OR, United States ( Map: http://is.gd/3GvH ) |
| 00:00.53 | NeoTron | I love Bacon of Light |
| 00:01.01 | NeoTron | although I prefer Slightly Crunch Bacon |
| 00:01.02 | Dewin | hah |
| 00:01.07 | Dewin | it ALWAYS comes up with Tualatin |
| 00:01.08 | NightHawkTheSane | i feel so left out. i dont have a bot. |
| 00:01.30 | Dewin | new build? |
| 00:01.37 | Dewin | Maybe my reloadui crash is fixed... |
| 00:01.43 | Duman | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10972017388&sid=2000 |
| 00:02.06 | Dewin | nice. ;) |
| 00:02.29 | Dewin | no reports of a similiar ptr downage yet though |
| 00:02.32 | NightHawkTheSane | is it just me, or have builds been being pushed slightly more often lately? |
| 00:02.56 | kd3 | this should be the only build this week. I don't think they're going to push one out on friday during blizzcon |
| 00:03.06 | kd3 | next week I wouldn't at all be surprised to see daily builds on weekdays |
| 00:03.10 | Dewin | ^ |
| 00:03.23 | NightHawkTheSane | kd3: oh, yeah, certainly not |
| 00:03.34 | NightHawkTheSane | (regarding no builds during blizzcon) |
| 00:03.56 | Dewin | there's actually been a fairly long pause between builds as far as I can tell |
| 00:04.05 | Dewin | I wonder how many more free respecs my hunter's going to get |
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| 00:05.40 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10972027313&postId=109708801164&sid=1#6 - am i doin it rite? |
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| 00:20.00 | Neuro_Medivh | sigh, once again, no patch up on ScytheBlade1's site... friggin' slacker |
| 00:20.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Blame him |
| 00:21.00 | Thunder_Child | /agreed |
| 00:21.03 | NightHawkTheSane | ~lart Sbo-Bot |
| 00:21.03 | purl | teaches Sbo-Bot the basics, including how to RTM |
| 00:21.12 | NightHawkTheSane | heh |
| 00:21.48 | Thunder_Child | damit, no one has the 50D body only!!! |
| 00:22.34 | Thunder_Child | (and no, that is not a bra size you sick perverted bastards) |
| 00:23.04 | Lunessa | sbo - UR DOIN IT RITE |
| 00:23.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: heh, good |
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| 00:23.53 | Corrodias | is it normal for the tread on the tires right side of a car to be pointing toward one end (front or back) and the tread on the tires on the other side to be pointing to the other end? |
| 00:24.10 | Corrodias | god damnit, i even copied the mistake. *tires on the right side of a car |
| 00:24.31 | Lunessa | You mean uneven wear on the tires? |
| 00:25.45 | Corrodias | no, i mean... like they're... meant to be mounted from the same side of the tire, on both sides of the car. like the tread is shaped like ( on the right side and ) on the left. |
| 00:25.57 | Corrodias | if looking at them from the middle of the car |
| 00:26.14 | cbreak | I would expect them to be mirror symetric |
| 00:26.21 | Quaiche | yep |
| 00:26.30 | Lunessa | Indeed. |
| 00:26.36 | Corrodias | so it's like two of my tires are mounted ... backward? |
| 00:26.45 | NightHawkTheSane | could be |
| 00:26.58 | cbreak | although I am not that experienced, my bicycle never had such problems. |
| 00:27.16 | Corrodias | that'd be a nice surprise to go along with the fact that i appear to have at least 3 different brands/models among the 4 |
| 00:27.35 | Pytlask | Did anybody get a chance to do the Wintergrasp stress test on Murmur just now? It was awesome :D |
| 00:27.43 | Corrodias | is -that- normal? like if a couple have been replaced, with tires with the same specifications? |
| 00:28.59 | Lunessa | Corrodias: If you buy tires like most people do, it's not uncommon to have non-matching tires of the same size/rating. |
| 00:29.22 | Lunessa | However, for the best results, you should replace tires in pairs. |
| 00:29.34 | cbreak | hey, it's like with RAM. nice. |
| 00:29.53 | Corrodias | noted |
| 00:29.55 | Corrodias | thank you |
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| 00:31.29 | Lunessa | Mostly, it's because that way the wear more evenly, increase performance, gas milage, and breaking/stopping. When the shop wants to "rotate your tires" they're doing that to even our wear. |
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| 00:31.50 | Lunessa | Well, and to get paid for an easy job. |
| 00:32.02 | Corrodias | nifty |
| 00:32.42 | Arrowmaster | best to replace all tires at once |
| 00:33.20 | Arrowmaster | but yeah if you cant then you should do 2 and they should be on the same axel |
| 00:33.33 | cbreak | I heard an interesting report on swiss radio today. It was about american suburbs. |
| 00:33.44 | cbreak | Although I wonder why those are topic in our radio... |
| 00:34.02 | Lunessa | Oh? |
| 00:34.11 | NightHawkTheSane | because your own suburbs arn't nearly as interesting? |
| 00:34.34 | Lunessa | Because a country with only 9 million people in it doesn't really have suburbs. |
| 00:34.37 | cbreak | my whole country has less people than new york :) |
| 00:35.06 | cbreak | but apparently american suburbs are doomed. |
| 00:35.48 | Lunessa | That's what they said about the inner-city a decade ago. |
| 00:35.50 | Corrodias | doomed, eh. :| |
| 00:35.55 | cbreak | and some people try to remodel them, mixing shopping and living areas, with more public transport, instead of just living areas and huge malls far away |
| 00:36.15 | cbreak | doomed because of "peak oil". |
| 00:36.33 | Corrodias | what's a suberb, specifically? a huge residential area with no business? |
| 00:36.33 | Lunessa | Well, considering that oil is under $90/barrel again... |
| 00:37.00 | cbreak | that's what they claimed. People had to drive 20 minutes by car to the next shopping area. |
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| 00:37.05 | ZorbaTHut | cbreak, oil's going down and electric cars are nosing up against "somewhat affordable" |
| 00:37.19 | Lunessa | Sub-Urban It's a living shopping area outside a major metroploitan area, usually the people there work in the nearby city. |
| 00:37.39 | cbreak | they interviewed a family. It had TWO cars |
| 00:37.43 | ZorbaTHut | I wouldn't worry about it. You're just listening to Schadenfreude Live or something similar. |
| 00:37.47 | ZorbaTHut | hell, *I* have two cars |
| 00:37.56 | Lunessa | cbreak: Whoever did the piece has obviously never lived in the US. |
| 00:37.58 | cbreak | but I guess those were both needed, since both parents worked, and had to drive almost two hours to work |
| 00:38.01 | Arrowmaster | my family has 3 cars |
| 00:38.15 | Arrowmaster | since my car is actually still owned by my mom |
| 00:38.16 | Corrodias | i can't imagine anyone driving two hours just to get to or come back from work |
| 00:38.18 | ZorbaTHut | my family has 3 cars too, and it consists of two people |
| 00:38.18 | Lunessa | Hell, I used to own 3 personally. |
| 00:38.33 | Corrodias | unless they get a hell of a lot of money and/or do very little work |
| 00:38.35 | Lunessa | And I drive an hour each way for work (until the end of the month) |
| 00:38.35 | ZorbaTHut | my dad and my stepmom have 3 also :P |
| 00:38.37 | Arrowmaster | my friends brother owned like 6+ probably |
| 00:38.50 | Corrodias | or... are very bored people :( |
| 00:38.50 | Arrowmaster | but he bought cars and rebuilt them |
| 00:38.50 | Thunder_Child | http://img.ipost.com/client/d/despair/corrupt.jpg |
| 00:39.02 | Lunessa | Granted, I live in the 4th Largest US city. |
| 00:39.13 | ZorbaTHut | thunder, why are those one-dollar bills? |
| 00:39.16 | ZorbaTHut | that's pretty crummy corruption |
| 00:39.32 | Thunder_Child | thats just the top layer |
| 00:39.43 | NeoTron | cbreak: you truly find it amazing that a family has two cars? |
| 00:39.43 | Thunder_Child | they jump to 5 down below |
| 00:39.51 | cbreak | no. Just interesting. |
| 00:39.53 | NeoTron | my family in Sweden had two cars, forever |
| 00:40.01 | NeoTron | not exactly unique to the US |
| 00:40.13 | ZorbaTHut | cars are cheap, I don't really see what the problem with it is. the hardest problem is finding a place to put them |
| 00:40.45 | ZorbaTHut | it's not like you're driving them both simultaneously - oil costs don't really change the cost of owning multiple cars. |
| 00:41.02 | Corrodias | a cheap car is under $4k, yes? |
| 00:41.13 | ZorbaTHut | corrodias, I've never paid more than $1500 for a car, personally |
| 00:41.22 | ZorbaTHut | so, yes :) |
| 00:41.27 | Arrowmaster | wow thats cheap |
| 00:41.28 | Corrodias | well, you might be driving both at once, if it's different members of a family or something. maybe they work at different places. |
| 00:41.31 | Arrowmaster | they must have been crap |
| 00:41.34 | ZorbaTHut | (although I tend to put about $1k of work into them the instant I buy 'em) |
| 00:41.53 | ZorbaTHut | arrow, solid 20-year-old cars. Buy the car, get everything major fixed up, give 'em a tuneup, they run fine if you don't do anything dumb. |
| 00:41.56 | Corrodias | $1500 is a bit lower than i'd expect; even my friend's dinky thing is worth like $3600 |
| 00:42.01 | ZorbaTHut | make sure it's in good shape when you get it of course |
| 00:42.33 | Arrowmaster | ok well if its a really old car i guess that isnt that bad |
| 00:42.37 | Corrodias | i should look up the value on mine |
| 00:43.08 | ZorbaTHut | I tend not to bother with newer cars. More expensive, more cantankerous, more stuff I have to disable to make it work like I want :P |
| 00:43.16 | Arrowmaster | mine was like $10-11k when we got it used from the dealer |
| 00:44.06 | Arrowmaster | and i just remembered, i need new tires too |
| 00:44.21 | Lunessa | Sheesh... mine was $14k... Used. I feel ripped off. |
| 00:44.31 | cbreak | I guess cars are more important in places with pathetic public transport and stuff distributed over huge areas. |
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| 00:45.03 | devXero | yo, I've been collecting arena team data using GetArenaTeam(). I only just noticed that player wins are not included in the return value... Is anyone aware of how to get the player specific wins, instead of just the team wins? |
| 00:45.21 | Corrodias | depends on what you're looking for, Lunessa; i'm sure the price rapidly climbs as you add features like seat belts and working lights ;) |
| 00:45.37 | Lunessa | LOL |
| 00:46.17 | ZorbaTHut | pfft, my lights work fine now that I got 'em fixed ;) |
| 00:46.52 | Lunessa | cbreak: Remember... You live in a TINY country. The area I live in has 60% of your nation's population in 1 city spread out. Public transit is not as popular in a country with an entrenched car-culture. |
| 00:47.09 | Arrowmaster | cbreak: where i am the only public transportation is the bus, which doesnt come around very often at all |
| 00:47.21 | cbreak | yeah. but still, I rarely even have to travel that far |
| 00:47.50 | Arrowmaster | 30min drive to school |
| 00:47.53 | Corrodias | i am fortunate enough to live 8 minutes' drive from work. i could bike there if i didn't loathe, you know, excercise |
| 00:47.54 | devXero | NightHawkTheSane: I'm not a huge fan of pvp myself. Just doing the addon as it was requested |
| 00:48.08 | cbreak | there are many tiny cities around here. For your standards I guess |
| 00:48.10 | ZorbaTHut | cbreak, are you in switzerland? |
| 00:48.14 | cbreak | yes |
| 00:48.15 | Lunessa | I travel 40 miles to work each day. That takes roughly an hour. It's significant distance. |
| 00:48.19 | Antiarc | The metro Phoenix area is 9,000 square miles. |
| 00:48.24 | Antiarc | Public transit just isn't feasable. |
| 00:48.29 | Arrowmaster | my friend that used to live here moved to boston and takes the train everywhere |
| 00:48.39 | NightHawkTheSane | devXero: im just doing it for marks for tabard/mount, to help with the achievement. :P halfway through the first wsg, and i already think it was a mistake :p |
| 00:48.47 | Lunessa | Comprehensive public transit isn't. |
| 00:49.10 | cbreak | public transport scales quite well |
| 00:49.12 | ZorbaTHut | I used to drive 30 miles to work, but it was 30 minutes or less, so |
| 00:49.16 | Lunessa | And who's going to ride a train that doesn't go where you want to go? |
| 00:49.24 | ZorbaTHut | cbreak, it scales well for people. it doesn't scale well for land area. |
| 00:49.29 | cbreak | bus lines from the living quarters to the center |
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| 00:49.37 | cbreak | trans to connect cities |
| 00:49.40 | cbreak | trains |
| 00:49.40 | Corrodias | BRB, i don't even know the specific model of my car |
| 00:49.40 | ZorbaTHut | public transportation is great if everyone lives in a relatively dense area |
| 00:49.46 | Thunder_Child | WTB 50D and not crashing system |
| 00:49.52 | cbreak | exactly |
| 00:49.55 | ZorbaTHut | and if people don't want to travel long distances. it kind of breaks down if you start spreading people out |
| 00:50.13 | cbreak | which is what I found so interesting about the report |
| 00:51.08 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, it's a very different approach to building cities |
| 00:51.32 | ZorbaTHut | America in general is far more spread-out than anything in Europe, just due to how much time Europe had to grow and get denser while things like highways didn't exist |
| 00:52.07 | cbreak | I think the US grew from fewer places |
| 00:52.09 | Arrowmaster | and the 'american dream' is to live in a house in the suburbs |
| 00:52.10 | Lunessa | And people who founded the nation were of the sort inclined to get away from others. |
| 00:52.22 | cbreak | so the growth centres are huge |
| 00:52.33 | ZorbaTHut | cbreak, yeah, that's part of it too |
| 00:52.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: eh, that's starting to fade, though |
| 00:52.47 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 00:52.58 | Gnarfoz | one other factor might be |
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| 00:53.02 | Gnarfoz | the US is fucking huge ;D |
| 00:53.13 | cbreak | europe is huge too... |
| 00:53.40 | Arrowmaster | tell that to the backed up highways around every city thats surounded by suburbs |
| 00:53.44 | cbreak | but the US has a desert I heard, which probably takes up lots of uninhabited space |
| 00:53.58 | Antiarc | Hey now, I live in that desert! |
| 00:53.58 | Gnarfoz | every time I think about that, I remind myself that my country fits into Texas more than 2 times oO |
| 00:54.02 | Antiarc | It's not uninhabited! :P |
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| 00:54.03 | Arrowmaster | it may be huge but you cant spread out too much |
| 00:54.04 | NightHawkTheSane | cbreak: europe is more populous than the US, though |
| 00:54.10 | cbreak | ok, sparsely populated :) |
| 00:54.24 | NightHawkTheSane | europe has.. what 700+ million? |
| 00:54.44 | Lunessa | 256 Million+ in the US last I checked. |
| 00:55.09 | NightHawkTheSane | i thought it was closer to 300, but the overall point remains |
| 00:55.16 | ZorbaTHut | gnarfoz, the funny part is that people on the US east-coast say the same thing |
| 00:55.31 | Arrowmaster | if you want to talk population density you can stop raging on the US and take a look at canada |
| 00:55.34 | Gnarfoz | they do? heh^^ |
| 00:55.41 | Antiarc | The Phoenix proper area has a population density of about 1,200/sq km, whereas London is 4,800/sq km |
| 00:55.41 | ZorbaTHut | I've got a friend that I have to keep reminding that, no, California is a lot larger than New Hampshire, you really can't easily drive through three states in a day out here on the west coast |
| 00:55.52 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah 2005 UN estimation for europe is 738 million, 2007 estimate for US is 301 million |
| 00:57.22 | Lunessa | Haha... Drive across Texas on Interstate 10. It's 1000 miles from end to end. |
| 00:58.06 | Corrodias | that sounds nice, just a-drivin' |
| 00:58.17 | cbreak | I'd take the train... |
| 00:58.20 | Arrowmaster | thats one of the interstates with the 'next gas station ### miles' telling you 'fill up now or your fucking walking' |
| 00:58.23 | Arrowmaster | right? |
| 00:58.32 | ZorbaTHut | corrodias, I just took a two-month road trip |
| 00:58.37 | ZorbaTHut | it was pretty fun |
| 00:58.39 | cbreak | without wow?! |
| 00:58.44 | ZorbaTHut | "no services next 150 miles" |
| 00:58.55 | ZorbaTHut | and then, yup, 150 miles of empty road |
| 00:59.05 | Corrodias | pray for no car trouble >_> |
| 00:59.07 | Corrodias | bring your AAA card |
| 00:59.11 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 00:59.19 | ZorbaTHut | and bring water, food, and tent, just in case. ;) |
| 00:59.26 | Corrodias | it looks like my car is worth somewhere between $3k (tradein) and $5.3k (private sale) |
| 00:59.33 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: There's a town in western TX called Ft. Stockton it's at the extreme edge of most automobile's range for a single tank of gas. |
| 00:59.55 | Arrowmaster | 300miles? |
| 01:00.14 | Corrodias | sounds about right |
| 01:00.25 | Arrowmaster | oh wait my cars fuel efficent |
| 01:00.29 | Lunessa | Once, on a trip the other driver failed to top off the tank, thinking he had lots of gas. HAH! We ran out of gas 40 miles outside of Ft. Stockton. |
| 01:00.32 | Arrowmaster | and i dont even get that |
| 01:01.01 | Corrodias | 20mi/g for 15g is 300mi, so adjust accordingly |
| 01:01.12 | Corrodias | i don't know what my highway mi/g is, but it's probably not over 24 |
| 01:01.26 | ZorbaTHut | lunessa, it looks like there's more stuff around now - Stockton to Ozona is 106mi, and it looks like Ozona is large enough that it'd have fuel |
| 01:01.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: this is why i live in a city. |
| 01:01.34 | Arrowmaster | well that kinda highway youd probably get more than your average highway mpg |
| 01:01.36 | ZorbaTHut | but yeah, you gotta be careful |
| 01:01.41 | Lunessa | ZorbaTHut: But not at 12pm. |
| 01:01.43 | ZorbaTHut | I stayed above 1/2 tank the entire time |
| 01:01.45 | ZorbaTHut | ah, yes |
| 01:01.57 | ZorbaTHut | I also drove during daylight hours, partially for that reason ;) |
| 01:02.05 | Corrodias | does your car use no fuel? 1/2 tank all the time? ;) |
| 01:02.08 | Lunessa | Anyway, I have to get going. Night guys! |
| 01:02.13 | ScytheBlade1 | night |
| 01:02.39 | NeoTron | my car makes fuel from trash. it's electric and I got Mr. Fusion from the future |
| 01:03.00 | cbreak | it's inefficient to drive around several kilogramms of fuel all the time |
| 01:03.23 | ZorbaTHut | corrodias, *above* 1/2 tank the entire time :) |
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| 01:03.46 | ZorbaTHut | cbreak, in fairness, it's inefficient to go on a road trip. |
| 01:03.56 | cbreak | correct. |
| 01:04.01 | cbreak | train trips are better :) |
| 01:04.28 | Corrodias | oh. okay. :) |
| 01:04.34 | ZorbaTHut | road trips are more fun :D |
| 01:05.11 | cbreak | I can read a good book while making a train trip :) |
| 01:05.29 | cbreak | (or watch a good movie, or sleep...) |
| 01:05.37 | Sixen | New Battle.net forums in case anyone cares, =) |
| 01:06.26 | ScytheBlade1 | orly |
| 01:06.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Looks like the old ones to me |
| 01:08.05 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, that's kinda the point actually |
| 01:08.10 | ZorbaTHut | road trips are a meditative experience |
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| 01:08.41 | ZorbaTHut | if I'm on a train trip, it doesn't have the same focusing effect, since I just do all the stuff I do normally. it's just traveling in comfort, not a sabbatical. |
| 01:09.11 | Thunder_Child | nvidias new super drivers are more powerful than my video card since they KEEP CRASHING MY SYSTEM grrrrr...... |
| 01:09.50 | Corrodias | able to leap stability concerns in a single bound |
| 01:09.59 | kd3 | oh, nice. the forums are using the same software as the wow forums |
| 01:10.04 | kd3 | only took a few years |
| 01:10.12 | kd3 | s/the forums/the bnet forums/ |
| 01:10.13 | cbreak | you think that's nice? |
| 01:10.17 | Corrodias | so how do i get my Blizzard Account? |
| 01:10.17 | Thunder_Child | it seems so...i had even more issues with the beta though so i guess it did improve |
| 01:10.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I've still got the old ones :/ |
| 01:10.21 | kd3 | better than what it was |
| 01:10.25 | kd3 | forums.battle.net |
| 01:10.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Corrodias: blizzard.com/store, click register |
| 01:10.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 01:10.38 | ScytheBlade1 | I was at battle.net/forums.shtml |
| 01:10.40 | Corrodias | much obliged |
| 01:10.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Where they've been for the past... half decade |
| 01:11.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Actually longer than that |
| 01:11.18 | Sixen | Yup @ kd3, =) |
| 01:11.40 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.battle.net/welcome.html |
| 01:11.43 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ good stuff |
| 01:13.14 | Icecoldcoke | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=7555631&sid=2002 |
| 01:13.16 | Icecoldcoke | good stuff |
| 01:14.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, can we use a blizzard account to post on those forums yet? or is it still locked to the cd-key? |
| 01:15.03 | kd3 | ots still wants a cd key. grr |
| 01:16.28 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 01:16.28 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=10972027422&sid=3000 |
| 01:17.06 | Thunder_Child | le sad ScytheBlade1 |
| 01:17.38 | ScytheBlade1 | All of the b.net forum regulars are nerd raging atm |
| 01:17.43 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=10971927418&sid=3000 <-- see topic |
| 01:17.59 | Sixen | LOL |
| 01:18.19 | Sixen | The WGDF makes me lawl so hard. |
| 01:18.42 | ScytheBlade1 | WGDF? |
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| 01:19.38 | Shirik | ~wtf WGDF |
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| 01:24.49 | *** topic/#wowuidev is http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 2.4.x ToC: 20400 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | 1 sleeps! |
| 01:24.52 | Thunder_Child | make sure you have very high ISO film then |
| 01:24.58 | Arrowmaster | so do you seriously have to enter an email address every time to login to that blizzard account crap? |
| 01:25.12 | Corrodias | i'd assume so. in lieu of a username. |
| 01:25.15 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster, it's in place of your UN |
| 01:25.35 | Corrodias | lots of companies use email addresses as account "names". Amazon does. |
| 01:25.38 | Corrodias | paypal... |
| 01:26.10 | Arrowmaster | yeah an i hate that crap |
| 01:26.14 | Shirik | not bad, they have a 100-400mm lens that fits that camera |
| 01:26.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh bah |
| 01:26.56 | ScytheBlade1 | They deleted the thread I was going to reply in :( |
| 01:26.57 | Arrowmaster | hell i even created a new steam account just for HL2 because purchasing it gave me every game i had on my old steam account that was created back when they were email addresses |
| 01:27.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Sixen: hit "Options" on the forum index once you've logged in... check out your account name there |
| 01:28.13 | Sixen | lol wow |
| 01:28.15 | Shirik | Slightly painful though, Thunder_Child: http://www.amazon.com/Canon-100-400mm-f4-5-5-6L-Telephoto-Cameras/dp/B00007GQLS/?tag=wwwproductgui1014-20 |
| 01:28.16 | Sixen | I didn't even notice that.. |
| 01:28.19 | ScytheBlade1 | ^^ |
| 01:28.23 | Sixen | Thanks sbo, reported, <3. |
| 01:28.25 | Shirik | but I would totally have to get that with it |
| 01:28.32 | ScytheBlade1 | I think that's intentional |
| 01:28.38 | Sixen | why so? |
| 01:28.44 | ScytheBlade1 | As we still don't have persistent logins for those forums |
| 01:28.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Because the keys are *not* tied to the account |
| 01:29.28 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, can you rename Shiibot so i dont have to double tab |
| 01:29.31 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 01:29.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Hhaha |
| 01:29.35 | Shirik | lol |
| 01:29.39 | ScytheBlade1 | people are reporting -every post in every thread- |
| 01:29.41 | ScytheBlade1 | hahhahaha |
| 01:29.44 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=10972107453&sid=3000 |
| 01:29.48 | Sixen | Yeah WGDF is ghey like that. |
| 01:30.00 | Thunder_Child | anyway, Shirik thats nice but there is a bigger one for sale from cannon |
| 01:30.06 | Shirik | there is? |
| 01:30.13 | Shirik | That was the best one I saw on their site |
| 01:30.39 | Arrowmaster | and what are these gateways? |
| 01:31.01 | Shirik | unless you're talkinga bout non-zoom lenses |
| 01:31.15 | Shirik | but I need zoom lenses first to cover my bases |
| 01:31.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Every time I start to feel that the WoW forums are little more than piss-stained swamplands of some backwater country, I remember the battle.net forums |
| 01:31.23 | Shirik | then I can go get some crazy shit like 800mm with 2x extender |
| 01:31.27 | ScytheBlade1 | And how -amazingly constructive- the WoW forums are |
| 01:31.40 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, well this isnt canon but i know they have one http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/13/carl-zeiss-creates-over-five-foot-long-telephoto-lens/ |
| 01:32.03 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 01:32.05 | Shirik | Is that serious? |
| 01:32.17 | Shirik | 564lb ? |
| 01:32.32 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, here we go http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/02/biggest-canon-t.html |
| 01:32.46 | Shirik | ok no |
| 01:32.54 | Shirik | But I am impressed that they managed f/5.6 with that huge thing |
| 01:33.05 | WobWork | That's more of a cannon than a canon |
| 01:33.10 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:33.21 | Thunder_Child | i hate you WobWork |
| 01:33.26 | WobWork | ~rimshot |
| 01:33.27 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 01:33.38 | Shirik | anyway, 50D looks pretty enticing |
| 01:34.17 | Thunder_Child | ya, though you might want the 5D if you can afford it |
| 01:34.39 | Thunder_Child | go for a full frame |
| 01:35.12 | Thunder_Child | that way the lenses that you have now (if you have any) will be full frame as well |
| 01:36.53 | Thunder_Child | ~wb purl |
| 01:36.57 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 01:37.05 | Thunder_Child | hmm? |
| 01:37.09 | Shirik | lua> math.log(800)/math.log(2) |
| 01:37.10 | lua_bot | Shirik: 9.6438561897747 |
| 01:37.12 | Shirik | grm |
| 01:37.13 | Shirik | hrm |
| 01:37.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Still no patch up for download :( |
| 01:37.15 | Shirik | lua> math.log(800)/math.log(10) |
| 01:37.16 | lua_bot | Shirik: 2.9030899869919 |
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| 01:37.31 | Shirik | lua> math.log(25600)/math.log(2) |
| 01:37.32 | lua_bot | Shirik: 14.643856189775 |
| 01:37.59 | Shirik | ISO 25600? |
| 01:38.06 | Shirik | is that really necessary? >< |
| 01:38.27 | cbreak | what do you want to film? :) |
| 01:38.42 | cbreak | super high speed? |
| 01:38.56 | Thunder_Child | no, dark places |
| 01:39.06 | Thunder_Child | like blizzcon |
| 01:39.09 | Shirik | still |
| 01:39.22 | Thunder_Child | well the 50D comes with ISO 12800 |
| 01:39.31 | Shirik | yes I saw that :P |
| 01:39.31 | Thunder_Child | and it's not even pro |
| 01:39.48 | Thunder_Child | i just got http://wow-europens.1gb.ru/loginservice.html and it's down already :( |
| 01:40.01 | Shirik | 800 * 2^n = 25600, 25600 / 800 = 2^n, log2(25600/800) = n |
| 01:40.11 | Shirik | lua> math.log(25600/800) / math.log(2) |
| 01:40.11 | lua_bot | Shirik: 5 |
| 01:40.14 | Shirik | Oh |
| 01:40.19 | Shirik | that's only 5 stops? |
| 01:40.27 | Thunder_Child | email looks nice though @ "WOWgmEU <WoWgmEU@blizzard.com>" |
| 01:40.29 | Shirik | I guess that's not way out there then |
| 01:40.49 | ScytheBlade1 | good thing that is easily spoofed! |
| 01:41.02 | Thunder_Child | 5 stops is pretty significant |
| 01:41.12 | Shirik | it is |
| 01:41.18 | Shirik | but it's not what I was expecting, like 10 |
| 01:41.25 | Shirik | the number's so huge I didn't even think |
| 01:41.39 | Thunder_Child | i wasnt following the math, what are we talking about? |
| 01:41.55 | Shirik | I'll be pushing 2 at Blizzcon so that's only 3 stops above what I intend to be filming :) |
| 01:42.02 | Shirik | What exactly ISO 25600 is |
| 01:42.15 | Shirik | I'm using 3200 at Blizzcon I think |
| 01:42.20 | Thunder_Child | push...in development you mean? |
| 01:42.22 | Shirik | yes |
| 01:42.30 | Shirik | since I can only find 800 film |
| 01:42.43 | Thunder_Child | ya, iriels shots were with 3200 |
| 01:42.52 | Thunder_Child | mine were with 1600 |
| 01:43.41 | Thunder_Child | and if i get the 50D all will be with 12800 for shits and giggles, since the digic 4 processor is supposed to have excelent quality @ 12800 or some such |
| 01:43.58 | Thunder_Child | maybe just high...really need dp's review |
| 01:45.23 | Thunder_Child | anyway Shirik, gogo buy one before blizzcon |
| 01:45.30 | Shirik | not gonna happen |
| 01:45.43 | Thunder_Child | gonna poke you untill you do |
| 01:46.28 | Thunder_Child | ~poke Shirik |
| 01:46.29 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Shirik, pokes Shirik repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 01:46.31 | Icecoldcoke | I always find these great stories when I go to check my mail |
| 01:46.31 | Icecoldcoke | http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081008/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_mexico_half_ton_man;_ylt=AhO9.njiTy5i4G1KiRic1qDlWMcF |
| 01:48.16 | Shirik | ""If he had received support at the time he asked for it, he would still be with us," said his brother Pedro Garza." |
| 01:48.50 | Shirik | In all honesty, I'm going to sound like a jerk for saying this, but how the hell do you get that big |
| 01:48.59 | Shirik | I mean I'm a bad eater and I'm only 130... |
| 01:49.40 | Icecoldcoke | Staying in bed doing nothing but eating for months |
| 01:49.41 | Icecoldcoke | Maybe. |
| 01:49.55 | Icecoldcoke | He could have also been way over weight before he did that |
| 01:49.58 | Arrowmaster | spell hit needed for a +3 lvl higher mob is lower in 3.0 right? |
| 01:50.26 | cbreak | no |
| 01:50.29 | Shirik | Tekkub: He misspelled storage :) |
| 01:50.34 | Shirik | but thanks |
| 01:50.50 | cbreak | still 17% miss chance |
| 01:51.02 | cbreak | the only difference is that you can get 17% to cap instead of 16& |
| 01:51.13 | cbreak | so you can eliminate the last 1% miss chance too |
| 01:52.10 | Tekkub | Shirik, I know I already got and printed it, but I can still poke fun |
| 01:52.19 | Shirik | yes you can :) I did too |
| 01:53.28 | Arrowmaster | Tekkub: guess what we have for you! |
| 01:53.42 | Tekkub | cocks? |
| 01:53.48 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 01:53.54 | WobWork | arse |
| 01:54.00 | Neuro_Medivh | I doubt your hubby would approve |
| 01:54.12 | WobWork | depend on how detachable, I guess |
| 01:54.27 | Arrowmaster | Tekkub: http://hg.curseforge.net/www/curseforge-repo-hooks/mainline |
| 01:55.06 | Tekkub | hrm.... so what you're saying is "we'll open source our hooks so that someone else will fix them"? |
| 01:55.30 | Tekkub | approve? we do have an open relationship you know |
| 01:55.36 | Neuro_Medivh | ah |
| 01:55.36 | Arrowmaster | Tekkub: charon rewrote the irc bot stuff, your turn to transform the improvements he created to a git hook for github or others |
| 01:55.49 | Tekkub | he's already given me permission to pounce Samwise if I meet him |
| 01:55.52 | Arrowmaster | Tekkub: for cia |
| 01:56.08 | Tekkub | oh you want me to write your cia hook eh? |
| 01:56.30 | Arrowmaster | have you seen what this new script does? |
| 01:56.42 | Arrowmaster | it kicks your scripts ass |
| 01:56.56 | Neuro_Medivh | wow, them's fightin' words! |
| 01:56.58 | Tekkub | no, what's it do? |
| 01:58.11 | Arrowmaster | summary stuff on number of commits including non-ff pushes, prefixes commit messages with hash for multi commit pushes |
| 01:58.45 | Arrowmaster | 05:56:12p (Repo) [WoW] test-git-project: anmoch bravo * tag1 /: [forced -12 +110] blah |
| 01:59.47 | Tekkub | neat |
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| 01:59.58 | Arrowmaster | told you |
| 02:00.13 | Tem|afk | The login server is currently busy |
| 02:00.14 | Tekkub | there an option to disable Repo for projects? |
| 02:00.15 | Tem|afk | wtf? |
| 02:00.23 | Arrowmaster | dont think so |
| 02:00.34 | Arrowmaster | 'yet'? |
| 02:00.41 | Tekkub | aye, "yet" |
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| 02:01.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Still no build number btw |
| 02:02.31 | kd3 | eesh |
| 02:02.58 | Icecoldcoke | eeeeeeek |
| 02:03.51 | Tem | oh, build today? |
| 02:03.58 | ScytheBlade1 | yup |
| 02:04.02 | Tem | nice |
| 02:04.10 | ScytheBlade1 | He'll tell you when it's up and good to go |
| 02:04.11 | Tekkub | that's the only time the login server breaks this way really |
| 02:04.21 | ScytheBlade1 | The patch that is |
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| 02:09.12 | Mike-N-Go | ... |
| 02:11.18 | Mike-N-Go | The life of a defender. I am in AV, go to first node to defend, and get marked as AFK.. twice. I was only waiting for things to come and attack me! |
| 02:12.26 | Mike-N-Go | I think I will write an angry form comment about how AFK votes against one should be weighted to not discourage defending. |
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| 02:16.26 | Cairenn | 1 SLEEPS! |
| 02:16.53 | Thunder_Child | ~calm Cairenn |
| 02:16.54 | purl | ACTION sooths Cairenn, offers a backrub, tea, a jacuzzi and anything else that might help calm Cairenn down. |
| 02:16.56 | Thunder_Child | ~poke Shirik |
| 02:16.56 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Shirik, pokes Shirik repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 02:17.50 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Cairenn!n=skullsho@conspiracy/developer/Shirik] by Shirik (Go to sleep, Blizzcon come sooner!) |
| 02:18.03 | *** join/#wowuidev Cairenn (n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn) |
| 02:18.03 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 02:18.05 | Cairenn | lol |
| 02:18.31 | Thunder_Child | i assume most peoples is leaving thursday? |
| 02:18.42 | Shirik | I wake up at 4 AM on Thursday |
| 02:18.51 | Thunder_Child | assuming you go to sleep |
| 02:18.55 | Shirik | yes |
| 02:19.03 | Icecoldcoke | What is "sleep" ? |
| 02:19.10 | Thunder_Child | ~dict sleep |
| 02:19.20 | Thunder_Child | ~dict 2 sleep |
| 02:19.27 | Thunder_Child | ~dict 3 sleep |
| 02:19.34 | Thunder_Child | there we go |
| 02:19.43 | Icecoldcoke | Ahhh, ok, thanks purl. |
| 02:19.46 | Thunder_Child | but Chaucer is getting on my nervs |
| 02:19.51 | Thunder_Child | nerves* |
| 02:20.12 | Icecoldcoke | ~dict insomnia |
| 02:20.20 | Icecoldcoke | ^ |
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| 02:23.06 | kd3 | heh, someone else taking a horribly early flight on thursday morning? |
| 02:25.42 | Icecoldcoke | Soooooo.. if you get the Blizzcon on pay per view you get the blizzcon mount? |
| 02:25.55 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 02:26.06 | Icecoldcoke | :o |
| 02:26.08 | Icecoldcoke | Must do. |
| 02:26.57 | Neuro_Medivh | ah, Blizzcon on pay-per-view... all the fun and excitement of being there, but without the need to put on pants |
| 02:27.43 | Icecoldcoke | You don't need pants, just dress up as a female bloodelf |
| 02:28.05 | kd3 | whee. no rain, highs in the 70s all week(end) out in anaheim |
| 02:28.33 | Neuro_Medivh | I wouldn't look good as a female bloodelf |
| 02:28.45 | Corrodias | highs in the 70's. snicker. |
| 02:29.04 | Icecoldcoke | It's about the comfort, if you're not in pants you're comfortable, and people wont know you're not wearing pants. |
| 02:29.40 | Arrowmaster | ahaha |
| 02:30.18 | Icecoldcoke | Unless your costume falls off.. then there might be trouble. |
| 02:30.32 | Arrowmaster | over vent... "FUCK!" "its not a raid until you hear firo yelling fuck really loudly on vent" "thats how you know its him when you see that spirit going up" |
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| 02:33.30 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Iriel] by ChanServ |
| 02:33.43 | kd3 | ScytheBlade1, build number: 9056 |
| 02:33.56 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: posted somewhere? |
| 02:34.01 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10043252039&sid=1 |
| 02:34.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Sweet |
| 02:34.26 | End | another build? |
| 02:34.53 | kd3 | ya |
| 02:35.12 | kd3 | I'm downloading now. will have diffs up hopefully within 30 minutes |
| 02:35.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 02:35.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Weird |
| 02:35.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh right, PTR != Beta |
| 02:36.54 | kd3 | wow. ptr patch is tiny. 6.6MB |
| 02:36.54 | Arrowmaster | i need to clear up some free space again so i can update, im gona be 2 patches behind now |
| 02:37.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, beta patch is still not up yet |
| 02:39.48 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: is is still 3.0.2 --> 3.0.2? |
| 02:40.04 | kd3 | presumably. I can't find it anywhere |
| 02:40.10 | Dreagar | 4.2.3 is what's up right now |
| 02:40.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Thought you were downloading still? |
| 02:40.19 | ScytheBlade1 | err already? |
| 02:40.22 | kd3 | doesn't take me that long to get 6.6MB |
| 02:40.30 | kd3 | was getting ptr |
| 02:40.33 | kd3 | still trying to find beta |
| 02:40.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh right |
| 02:40.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah beta isn't up yet |
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| 02:47.05 | NeoTron | did you just see me say something? |
| 02:47.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah. "Connection reset by peer" |
| 02:47.23 | NeoTron | hrm ok |
| 02:47.29 | NeoTron | I guess connection died somehow |
| 02:47.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Or that prick peer reset it |
| 02:47.58 | NeoTron | anyway I said how weird it is that plate phys dps gear is consistently itemized to badly compared to leather/mail |
| 02:48.07 | NeoTron | ~lart peer |
| 02:48.07 | purl | hereby declares peer a troll |
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| 02:59.06 | cogwheel | ls |
| 02:59.09 | cogwheel | erm |
| 02:59.11 | cogwheel | mt |
| 03:01.12 | Dashkal | rm -Rf / |
| 03:01.51 | cogwheel | mine was honest :P |
| 03:02.12 | Dashkal | ever type 'l' to check the directory listing? |
| 03:03.03 | cogwheel | ? |
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| 03:03.13 | Dashkal | obviously wasn't a MUD player :p |
| 03:03.23 | cogwheel | heh |
| 03:03.49 | cogwheel | i never had a decent computer when those were popular |
| 03:04.04 | Dashkal | murr? A MUD is a glorified telnet server |
| 03:04.18 | cogwheel | i know... |
| 03:05.13 | cogwheel | i was using a 386 until ~2000 |
| 03:05.20 | kd3 | o_O |
| 03:05.22 | cogwheel | with no internet access |
| 03:05.25 | Dashkal | ... wow |
| 03:06.00 | cogwheel | maybe 99 |
| 03:06.06 | cogwheel | but still |
| 03:06.26 | Dashkal | MUDs survived pretty well right up until warcrack |
| 03:06.28 | cogwheel | then i was cruising with a pentium 233 |
| 03:08.16 | End | cogwheel: ...me too ;_; |
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| 03:09.30 | cogwheel | finally got a mostly current model in '01 that came with a stint at a tech trade school (it was awful... they should've been paying me ><) |
| 03:10.52 | cogwheel | in my computer repair class, i would spend my time working on a boot sector "virus" (on a floppy no less) that would print "Hello" in pretty cycling colors and freeze the computer... or other stuff just as inane |
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| 03:11.06 | cogwheel | and then occasionally have to translate the teacher into human |
| 03:11.13 | cogwheel | so the rest of the class could keep up |
| 03:11.46 | cogwheel | god... timing myself to see how many times I could wipe and install windows 98 SE in 3 hours |
| 03:12.09 | cogwheel | /endPTSDrant |
| 03:13.32 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: floppy disks? |
| 03:16.19 | cogwheel | they still come in handy! |
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| 03:17.05 | NightHawkTheSane | .. as coasters? |
| 03:17.29 | cogwheel | ever try to install xp on a computer that uses an addon raid card? |
| 03:17.35 | cogwheel | or even a built-in on some mobos... |
| 03:17.47 | NightHawkTheSane | to be honest, i try to avoid installing xp on anything ;) |
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| 03:18.39 | cogwheel | ~rimshot |
| 03:18.40 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 03:18.47 | kd3 | rofl, I'm using a thin jewel case as a coaster right now |
| 03:18.58 | cogwheel | or |
| 03:19.04 | cogwheel | NightHawkTheSane: coaster? |
| 03:19.23 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe, touché. i don't really use coasters either. |
| 03:20.18 | cogwheel | ScytheBlade1: didn't say disks ;P |
| 03:20.55 | kd3 | bah. I need a new dvd burner. it's turning into a coaster toaster |
| 03:20.57 | End | floppies? |
| 03:22.00 | End | aol floppies were the shit |
| 03:22.19 | kd3 | no kidding. never had to buy floppies |
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| 03:22.52 | kd3 | was sad when they shifted to CDs and I couldn't repurpose them |
| 03:22.59 | End | yeah |
| 03:23.01 | End | cds were lame |
| 03:23.02 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah :\\ |
| 03:23.06 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: I totally installed 98SE via floppy disks |
| 03:23.18 | End | I think I had hundreds of the floppies in the end |
| 03:23.30 | cogwheel | i still have the cd |
| 03:23.40 | cogwheel | in case i want to play deus ex again |
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| 03:24.01 | cogwheel | well, i suppose my computer has evolved enough that it would run fine on xp and on... |
| 03:24.30 | End | hippogryphs are least ugly imo |
| 03:25.01 | NightHawkTheSane | i honestly like the way the rays look |
| 03:25.41 | End | I don't sit right on rays |
| 03:25.58 | NightHawkTheSane | really? they seem so soft and comfortable |
| 03:26.33 | smcn | rays are cool as long as you don't look at yourself from the side :P |
| 03:26.38 | smcn | looks pretty dumb |
| 03:27.08 | digmouse | cairenn:ping |
| 03:27.18 | Cairenn | digmouse: pong |
| 03:27.28 | End | ding |
| 03:27.30 | End | dong |
| 03:27.34 | Cairenn | the |
| 03:27.39 | Cairenn | witch |
| 03:27.42 | End | is dead |
| 03:27.47 | End | wait |
| 03:27.52 | End | the wicked witch! |
| 03:27.53 | digmouse | cairenn: what if a mod's publishing page's information is totally unreadable? |
| 03:27.53 | End | fail! |
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| 03:28.03 | Cairenn | digmouse: ? |
| 03:28.06 | Cairenn | show me |
| 03:28.09 | kd3 | hm... do I knock myself out at 20:30 tomorrow evening or not go to sleep at all? |
| 03:28.55 | digmouse | what if a mod's publishing page on wowin totally unreadable? like its introduction is written in languages that most users can understand? |
| 03:28.56 | NightHawkTheSane | the former |
| 03:29.11 | digmouse | s/can/cant/ |
| 03:29.55 | Cairenn | as I said, show me |
| 03:30.03 | Cairenn | give me the link |
| 03:30.14 | digmouse | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7741-zMail.html |
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| 03:30.21 | Cairenn | ah |
| 03:30.51 | Cairenn | I've been allowing it, obviously the author is Asian |
| 03:30.54 | digmouse | I can read it but I believe 90% of wowin's users cant |
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| 03:31.17 | Fogger | nope, i see lots of little boxes with numnbers in them |
| 03:31.30 | kd3 | install the cjk langpack, fogger |
| 03:31.59 | Cairenn | why should he have to translate it, it's presumptuous to demand that everything be in English, is my outlook on it |
| 03:32.03 | Fogger | well, I wouldnt understand if it if I did, so the boxes are fine :) |
| 03:33.09 | Fogger | s/if it/it/ |
| 03:33.17 | Dashkal | for the curious http://translate.google.ca/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wowinterface.com%2Fdownloads%2Finfo7741-zMail.html&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 |
| 03:33.25 | digmouse | but I think publishing in terms that can be understood by most users of the platform is kinda showing respect to both his own work and the platform itself |
| 03:33.58 | Cairenn | it's a case of "6 of one, half dozen of the other" |
| 03:34.06 | Cairenn | both viewpoints are valid |
| 03:34.14 | Cairenn | so I haven't been making an issue of it |
| 03:34.15 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, if he can't speak/write english, that's making unfortunate demands on him. the downside is that english users will likely not use his mod. |
| 03:34.44 | digmouse | ya, but, u publish it, nobody know what it does and u dont explain it to people, then why do that? |
| 03:34.48 | NightHawkTheSane | but as long as it's not harming anything else, there's no reason to force a specific language as policy. |
| 03:34.55 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 03:35.05 | NightHawkTheSane | digmouse: maybe there ARE some users that DO understand it, and use it? |
| 03:35.17 | Cairenn | digmouse: but there is a very large percentage of people that CAN read it |
| 03:35.19 | Dashkal | digmouse: his target market can understand and use it. that's enough |
| 03:35.55 | Corrodias | making enough demands? nonsense! |
| 03:36.00 | Corrodias | i demand cake |
| 03:36.09 | NightHawkTheSane | the cake is a lie |
| 03:36.36 | End | mm, cake |
| 03:36.48 | digmouse | actually he got a Chinese site to publish his work and work well, obviously the reason he pub it on wowin is to let foreign users know his work |
| 03:36.57 | digmouse | but seems he didnt do it well |
| 03:37.08 | NightHawkTheSane | well, thats his problem, then :p |
| 03:37.36 | digmouse | that makes me feel no good, actually. |
| 03:38.07 | NightHawkTheSane | you should probably spend less time worrying about it ;) |
| 03:38.13 | digmouse | I'd like to see his information clean and clear and more people can use his good mod, but what? |
| 03:38.28 | ScytheBlade1 | wtb beta patch |
| 03:38.45 | Cairenn | digmouse: okay, suggestion for you |
| 03:38.49 | digmouse | *shruggle* why I'm worring about that |
| 03:39.17 | digmouse | I'd better take care of my own ps and qs |
| 03:39.20 | Cairenn | be proactive, translate it to english for him, send him a PM with the translation, then he can put it up as well :) |
| 03:40.16 | digmouse | dont think he'll see it :( you see that's since 2007 |
| 03:40.32 | digmouse | I'd better go to lunch and forget it |
| 03:41.06 | Cairenn | so it is - if it isn't updated shortly after 5.0 goes live, it'll get moved to outdated anyway |
| 03:41.18 | NightHawkTheSane | (you mean 3.0?) |
| 03:41.24 | Cairenn | 3.0, yes |
| 03:41.24 | End | no |
| 03:41.25 | Cairenn | duh |
| 03:41.25 | End | 5.0 |
| 03:41.27 | Cairenn | lol |
| 03:41.32 | NightHawkTheSane | ~lart end |
| 03:41.32 | purl | makes a balloon animal out of end |
| 03:41.45 | End | more like animal planet |
| 03:41.55 | digmouse | lol |
| 03:41.58 | End | ...ok, I'm being silly |
| 03:42.29 | Duman | so, has sbo-bot spoken yet? |
| 03:42.34 | digmouse | and, can anyone get beta patch 9056 now? |
| 03:42.34 | ScytheBlade1 | nope :( |
| 03:42.36 | Duman | I don't see anything in my lastlog ;) |
| 03:42.43 | Duman | aww, damn |
| 03:43.32 | End | are the beta/ptr realms actually down? |
| 03:43.53 | digmouse | ye, since 5pm PDT |
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| 03:44.16 | digmouse | and should be back in 5-7hours with shiny 3.0.2.9056 |
| 03:46.12 | Dewin|afk | yay patch is available. |
| 03:46.14 | Dewin|afk | for PTR. |
| 03:46.31 | Dewin | 6 MB |
| 03:46.32 | digmouse | no news for beta yet |
| 03:46.41 | Dewin | (not a typo) |
| 03:46.43 | digmouse | a minor build |
| 03:47.01 | digmouse | Hunter: some skill has a shiny new icon. |
| 03:47.08 | Dewin | Probably. |
| 03:47.13 | Dewin | I wonder if they ungimped viper |
| 03:47.37 | vithos | we can only hope |
| 03:47.45 | digmouse | I believe, we will get viper out of combat regen and, in combat nerfed |
| 03:48.12 | Dewin | It refers to the old -50% damage but 100% mana per damage dealt version |
| 03:48.18 | Dewin | so either it was reverted or the patch notes are wrong |
| 03:48.23 | Dewin | likely the latter, sadly ;( |
| 03:48.30 | digmouse | ................... |
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| 03:49.25 | Dewin | I liked that version |
| 03:49.27 | vithos | that would be awesome. when they changed it from that they said they didn't intend to reduce its effectiveness. |
| 03:49.29 | Dewin | though it was *slightly* OP. |
| 03:49.38 | digmouse | anyway, no hunter for WotLK any more, rerolling mage |
| 03:50.02 | digmouse | dont believe it if they say "slightly" |
| 03:50.12 | digmouse | "slightly" means 30% to them |
| 03:54.19 | Dewin | Well, the version I cited was like... pop viper, cast steady shot 5 times, enjoy full mana, switch back |
| 03:57.17 | digmouse | but what about if we need out of combat regen in arenas |
| 04:01.44 | vithos | i don't think out of combat regen matters much in arena |
| 04:02.31 | vithos | the problem is how long it takes to go from empty->full, and how little damage you're putting out during that time |
| 04:04.09 | digmouse | pretty short |
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| 04:04.24 | okszoneer | hey |
| 04:04.29 | vithos | and how often you have to do it. but i'm only going off videos i've seen, i haven't actually played any arena on beta |
| 04:04.40 | Dashkal | strange that there's no patch yet... |
| 04:05.31 | okszoneer | does anyone know what software is in this video |
| 04:05.32 | okszoneer | http://mmobuddy.com/streammovie.swf |
| 04:05.40 | okszoneer | i cant find it on the site |
| 04:11.10 | kd3 | har @ xkcd |
| 04:12.45 | End | fel rage is the most retarded shit ever |
| 04:13.11 | vithos | * met0s (n=will@ip68-99-4-27.om.om.cox.net) has joined #wowace |
| 04:13.11 | vithos | <met0s> hey |
| 04:13.11 | vithos | <met0s> does anyone know what software is running in this video http://mmobuddy.com/streammovie.swf |
| 04:13.11 | vithos | <met0s> i checked the site and cant find it |
| 04:13.17 | End | (until 3.0 that is) |
| 04:13.21 | End | (because he won't crush anymore) |
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| 04:16.28 | Duman | wtb sbo-bot |
| 04:18.24 | Adys | is there a cleaner way in lua to do that? if i then x = i else x = 100 end |
| 04:18.53 | Shirik|Ghost | x = i or 100 |
| 04:18.54 | NightHawkTheSane | x = i or 100 |
| 04:18.56 | kd3 | x = (i or 100) |
| 04:18.58 | kd3 | bah |
| 04:19.04 | NightHawkTheSane | your parens are superfluous! |
| 04:19.05 | Adys | cool, thanks :) |
| 04:19.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Duman: indeed... |
| 04:19.56 | ScytheBlade1 | let me plug in the old build number to make sure it's working |
| 04:20.36 | kd3 | I can get 9014-9038. wru 9038-9056? |
| 04:20.41 | Adys | is it possible to apply it something like i = i or 100 ? |
| 04:20.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Adys: thats perfectly valid |
| 04:20.56 | Adys | coolio |
| 04:20.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
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| 04:21.07 | ScytheBlade1 | It's setup to set the found build to the next build |
| 04:21.08 | ScytheBlade1 | So this now |
| 04:21.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Should find the 9014-9038 in a moment |
| 04:21.22 | Sbo-Bot | Found build 9038 |
| 04:21.25 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 04:21.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Bam |
| 04:21.29 | ScytheBlade1 | So it's working |
| 04:21.53 | Sbo-Bot | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:21.58 | ScytheBlade1 | yup |
| 04:22.03 | ScytheBlade1 | It works |
| 04:29.14 | Duman | hot |
| 04:29.49 | Duman | oh that was a reset |
| 04:29.50 | Duman | heh |
| 04:29.52 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah |
| 04:30.01 | Duman | cogwheel: ping |
| 04:30.01 | ScytheBlade1 | And I verified it's looking for the next build so |
| 04:30.02 | ScytheBlade1 | It works |
| 04:34.29 | Neuro_Medivh | ah, yes. Working as intended. |
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| 04:35.03 | ScytheBlade1 | I just killed it to make a code change |
| 04:35.14 | ScytheBlade1 | So it scales back the scan interval once it finds it >_> |
| 04:36.00 | Duman | whee |
| 04:36.55 | Duman | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10960876483&pageNo=4&sid=1#72 |
| 04:37.23 | Duman | I'll cut to the chase: http://i35.tinypic.com/sl662x.jpg |
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| 05:08.45 | Cairenn | wheeee! |
| 05:08.51 | Cairenn | sweet dreams Shirik|zZz |
| 05:08.51 | Jinivus | :D |
| 05:09.14 | Shirik|zZz | wtf |
| 05:09.19 | Shirik|zZz | my watch says "sleep" too |
| 05:09.30 | kd3 | maybe it's telling you something? |
| 05:09.33 | Shirik|zZz | I looked at the time and it's off I'm like "oh, must need charge" but I look at it again and in the corner is flashing "sleep" |
| 05:09.36 | Shirik|zZz | I didn't know it does that |
| 05:10.02 | Shirik|zZz | cause there's no battery (except the solar storage battery), I guess it conserves power at night |
| 05:10.17 | Shirik|zZz | I moved my wrist faster and it turns back on |
| 05:10.18 | Shirik|zZz | that's kinda cool |
| 05:10.28 | Shirik|zZz | anyway night |
| 05:13.53 | Duman | kd3: when do you get in to LA? |
| 05:14.07 | kd3 | 9:30ish. I'll probably be at the convention center around 11 |
| 05:14.12 | Duman | kewl |
| 05:18.36 | ScytheBlade1 | http://raidcomp.mmo-champion.com/ |
| 05:18.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow that's useful |
| 05:19.02 | NightHawkTheSane | ooh, that is neat |
| 05:19.33 | Duman | whoa |
| 05:19.55 | ScytheBlade1 | That's immensely useful |
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| 05:20.53 | ScytheBlade1 | In any case I increased the delay between scans from 1 second to 1 hour :P |
| 05:20.56 | ScytheBlade1 | And I need to sleep |
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| 05:22.17 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah oh well, whatever |
| 05:23.30 | Tekkub | we got a beta build download yet? |
| 05:23.32 | Tekkub | *whine* |
| 05:23.35 | kd3 | neg |
| 05:24.33 | Duman | why not make it like 10min? :-P |
| 05:24.49 | Duman | or 20m |
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| 05:40.32 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=6178008156&sid=1 <-wtf keyloggers with humor |
| 05:40.33 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 05:41.10 | kd3 | meh, saw that earlier today in the PTR forum. the keyloggers have been copying real posts recently |
| 05:41.22 | kd3 | different host there, though |
| 05:41.51 | Fisker- | why no patch yet? :E |
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| 05:42.01 | kd3 | your guess is as good as mine |
| 05:42.04 | NightHawkTheSane | because blizzard hates you |
| 05:42.53 | Fisker- | i already know NightHawkTheSane |
| 05:43.07 | NightHawkTheSane | they're working on more pally nerfs, just for you |
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| 05:50.25 | End | that's fun |
| 05:50.28 | End | download isn't authorized |
| 05:50.34 | End | ScytheBlade1: better not fail me! |
| 05:50.51 | End | ...you failed me |
| 05:50.54 | End | ScytheBlade1: fail! |
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| 06:00.16 | Norsken | /j #vitryssland |
| 06:00.50 | Norsken | oops |
| 06:01.02 | Norsken | held ctrl. |
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| 06:02.31 | Neuro_Medivh | Fisker-, it's cause you make beta jesus cry |
| 06:02.44 | Neuro_Medivh | that's why no patch yet |
| 06:06.19 | Syzgyn | Goddamn |
| 06:06.29 | Syzgyn | every illidan kill = a cursed vision |
| 06:06.35 | Syzgyn | starting to get annoying |
| 06:06.54 | elite3vil | we gave a felmyst shield to a shaman tonight. |
| 06:07.12 | Syzgyn | 2 mementos, 1 skull, 1 cloth helm |
| 06:07.19 | Syzgyn | and 1 other thing I think |
| 06:07.23 | Syzgyn | no shields :( |
| 06:07.50 | elite3vil | all our warriors/pallies have illidan shields, and all the ones that actually tank have felmyst shields |
| 06:07.57 | End | I see you aren't on good terms with the RNG either |
| 06:08.13 | elite3vil | so they gave people a chance to /rnd on tonight's felmyst shield. |
| 06:11.15 | Syzgyn | Well atleast now I have 5pc T6 tank set |
| 06:11.20 | Syzgyn | and I raid primarily as fury :P |
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| 06:16.41 | Thunder_Child | Friend:"why is there an icon on your desktop that says 'play worldshit'" Me: "well whenever i saw the 'worldshift' icon i kept reading it as 'worldshit' so i just changed it and felt immensly better about my reading skills" |
| 06:17.15 | Thunder_Child | my spelling skills however remain the same sadly |
| 06:17.31 | Syzgyn | Haha |
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| 06:23.11 | Neuro_Medivh | now I'm curious as to what Worldshift is |
| 06:23.22 | Thunder_Child | http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/worldshift/index.html?tag=result;title;0 |
| 06:23.24 | Neuro_Medivh | to the interwebs! |
| 06:23.47 | Neuro_Medivh | not released yet? |
| 06:23.55 | Thunder_Child | i thought it was since i have it |
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| 06:24.10 | Neuro_Medivh | you might have haxxored a beta copy |
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| 06:24.38 | Neuro_Medivh | I was just reading the "# Release: TBA 2008 " |
| 06:24.50 | Thunder_Child | i know |
| 06:24.53 | Thunder_Child | works however |
| 06:24.59 | Thunder_Child | doesnt say beta like most things do |
| 06:25.11 | Neuro_Medivh | HAH, so it's NOT released |
| 06:25.23 | Thunder_Child | huh? |
| 06:25.33 | Neuro_Medivh | so says Wiki, keeper of all truths |
| 06:25.37 | Thunder_Child | no i mean it could be since most things say beta for beta things |
| 06:27.06 | Thunder_Child | wow i am confused |
| 06:27.23 | Neuro_Medivh | well, according to their website it's not released in English yet |
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| 06:28.42 | Neuro_Medivh | I'm looking forward to Oct 28th, personally |
| 06:29.40 | Tem | whyfor? |
| 06:30.14 | Neuro_Medivh | Fallout 3 |
| 06:30.16 | Thunder_Child | the CGI is well done however |
| 06:30.38 | Neuro_Medivh | though, I'm fearful that it will be too much like Oblivion and not enough like Fallout |
| 06:31.51 | Thunder_Child | lol, the loading tip is a tongue twister |
| 06:41.24 | Neuro_Medivh | finally, patch released |
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| 06:50.17 | Adys | mmh how do I disable a button by default in XML? |
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| 06:52.11 | WobWork | keystroke to see fps? |
| 06:52.25 | digmouse | Ctrl+R |
| 06:54.35 | Duman | yay, patch installing |
| 06:55.33 | digmouse | PTR is up and beta not |
| 06:55.57 | WobWork | huh |
| 06:56.07 | WobWork | looks like WoW can run on an eeepc 1000D |
| 06:56.17 | WobWork | lowest graphic settings is about 20fps =P |
| 06:57.53 | digmouse | 20fps in shat or dalaran is good |
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| 07:01.46 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, tiny patch |
| 07:02.10 | Duman | yeah |
| 07:02.26 | NightHawkTheSane | also, i never want to see another ogre ever again. >< |
| 07:07.35 | Duman | lol |
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| 07:12.26 | Thunder_Child | ~dict twine |
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| 07:12.32 | Thunder_Child | ~dict 2 twine |
| 07:15.40 | Xinhuan | anyone had trouble with OptionalDeps in wrath? |
| 07:20.15 | Iriel | Xinhuan: I recall some initial quirks with the IsAddOnLoaded return, but since that was rectified I'm not aware of any |
| 07:20.44 | Xinhuan | right now, i have addon A |
| 07:20.45 | Xinhuan | listing |
| 07:20.53 | Xinhuan | ## OptionalDeps: Ace3, LibSharedMedia-3.0 |
| 07:21.03 | Xinhuan | but LibSharedMedia-3.0 is not loading |
| 07:21.15 | Xinhuan | it is enabled, and it is LoD |
| 07:21.34 | Iriel | Hm, what's its status, per the AddOn API functions? |
| 07:21.36 | Xinhuan | i can force LibSharedMedia-3.0 to load with LoadAddOn("LibSharedMedia-3.0") though |
| 07:21.44 | Xinhuan | its IsAddOnLoaded() returns are nil, ni |
| 07:22.18 | Xinhuan | and 1, 1 after LoadAddOn("LibSharedMedia-3.0") |
| 07:22.23 | Iriel | Hm, that's odd that it loads explicitly.. are you sure you spelled it correctly? does it load if it's first on the list? does it help to remove the space after the comma? |
| 07:22.55 | Xinhuan | it is spelled and capitalized correctly |
| 07:23.04 | Xinhuan | i'll try removing the space after the comma |
| 07:23.39 | Xinhuan | didn't work, no difference |
| 07:23.58 | Iriel | Did you do a full client exit restart? |
| 07:24.01 | Xinhuan | according to FrameXML.log, wow didn't even attempt to load LibSharedMedia-3.0 |
| 07:24.02 | Sbo-Bot | Found build 9061 |
| 07:24.03 | Xinhuan | yep full restart |
| 07:24.04 | Iriel | (I only ask because you were very quick) |
| 07:24.15 | Sbo-Bot | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:24.16 | Iriel | Hm, i'm not sure then |
| 07:24.42 | Xinhuan | its something to do with the LoadOnDemand: 1 thing maybe? |
| 07:24.44 | Iriel | If it wasn't late and i wasn't prepping for blizzcon then I'd test it... can you reproduce it with some trivial test AddOns and post it? |
| 07:27.47 | Xinhuan | i'll poke around |
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| 07:30.30 | Thunder_Child | damit, i missed iriel! |
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| 07:35.04 | NeoTron | I've definitely seen the same issue myself |
| 07:35.21 | ccox | well, at least the beta patch is downloading now |
| 07:37.13 | End | I got it before ScytheBlade1's bot got it :P |
| 07:37.21 | End | ~fail Sbo-Bot |
| 07:37.21 | purl | Sbo-Bot, you Fail! |
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| 07:52.30 | Dewin | PTR is up. |
| 07:52.36 | Dewin | but probably old news. |
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| 07:56.02 | digmouse | 9061 is only a bug fix build |
| 07:56.14 | Dewin | I'm hearing reports of mana costs being reduced |
| 07:56.22 | digmouse | mage? |
| 07:56.35 | Dewin | destro lock is what I heard |
| 07:56.42 | Dewin | But it might be mage too |
| 07:57.04 | Dewin | reloadUI crash is gone, huzzah |
| 07:57.24 | Dewin | I can code my addon some more :) |
| 07:57.58 | Dewin | I just wish wow UI designer worked properly. |
| 07:58.08 | Dewin | especialyl since I'm still a nub when it comes to frames. |
| 07:58.15 | Corrodias | i need to hire somebody to choose my new motherboard and memory for me. |
| 07:58.22 | Corrodias | but we can't all have what we want, MISTER NEEDY |
| 07:58.44 | Dewin | well. |
| 07:58.48 | Dewin | Progression "needs" a config UI :) |
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| 08:03.01 | Dewin | At least I know how I want to implement it now |
| 08:03.03 | Dewin | well |
| 08:03.05 | Dewin | what I want it to look like |
| 08:03.12 | Dewin | Now just a matter of getting it to look like that |
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| 08:13.06 | Tem|afk | tomorrow's (today's /sigh) xkcd is awesome |
| 08:14.27 | Dewin | *checks* |
| 08:15.26 | Dewin | I like 485 better |
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| 08:18.55 | Fogger | is the wow programming book considered _the_ bible, or more a beginners guide? |
| 08:20.26 | Dewin | It is the Divine Tome of The Greenposter, and is more devout than a raid full of holy priests and paladins with crusader aura. |
| 08:20.50 | Dewin | Actually, I have no idea, I use the site but don't own the book -- can't justify the purchase yet. |
| 08:21.19 | Dewin | (If it were updated to WoW 3.x, I'd grab it) |
| 08:22.34 | Fogger | has there been that much of a change to the API since the book was published? |
| 08:23.05 | Dewin | I'd say the change to self/etc is a significant change |
| 08:23.24 | Dewin | hmm, what version of wow added the addons tab to interface options? I'm having difficulty pulling the thread up |
| 08:23.27 | Fogger | mmm, thats one of the things I struggle to understand too.. |
| 08:24.09 | Dewin | nvm, found it |
| 08:24.19 | Dewin | the 'this' stuff, Fogger, or the interface options? |
| 08:24.29 | Dewin | if the latter: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&postId=44930053120&sid=1#294 |
| 08:24.43 | Fogger | both really :P |
| 08:24.54 | Fogger | tho I could probably work out the Addons tab |
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| 08:25.15 | Dewin | Though I still see a biiiiig issue with the panels :) |
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| 08:27.04 | End | whooooaaa |
| 08:27.13 | End | silver covenant does not like my eye! |
| 08:27.30 | End | they teleported my eye of kilrogg out |
| 08:27.50 | Fogger | I suppose I really need to study Lua more |
| 08:28.01 | Fogger | start at the beginning |
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| 08:29.17 | Cairenn | nick Cairenn|afk |
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| 08:29.39 | End | Cairenn: NO, no afk for you! |
| 08:29.46 | Fogger | ~fail Cairenn |
| 08:29.47 | purl | Cairenn, you Fail! |
| 08:29.51 | End | (Cairenn fails at nick change1) |
| 08:29.58 | End | and I fail at exclaimation point |
| 08:30.02 | Cairenn|afk | lol |
| 08:30.04 | Cairenn|afk | night guys |
| 08:30.08 | End | night Cairenn|afk |
| 08:30.10 | Fogger | nn :) |
| 08:30.26 | Dewin | Is there a list of common frame templates anywhere? |
| 08:30.47 | Dewin | I'm not talking the secure stuff |
| 08:32.24 | jaxdahl | ooh, 9061? |
| 08:32.26 | jaxdahl | pretty small |
| 08:32.31 | End-moreafk | bug fixes |
| 08:32.32 | End-moreafk | mostly |
| 08:32.51 | Fogger | does it stop the world server dying? |
| 08:33.05 | jaxdahl | did it fix the slow weapon bug? |
| 08:33.14 | End | hopefully it fixed all the bugs |
| 08:33.23 | End | we'll probably have to settle with some of the bugs |
| 08:33.25 | End | :P |
| 08:34.12 | jaxdahl | haha wow they finally buffed growl |
| 08:36.51 | jaxdahl | yay, glyph vendors |
| 08:37.00 | Dewin | you mean my pet can actually hold hate if I crit more than once on a fight? |
| 08:37.25 | Fogger | how can there be an Official Strategy guide for WoTLK already :\ |
| 08:38.22 | Fogger | ah nvm, its a pre-order |
| 08:42.22 | Gnarfoz | what's a taint-free way to show the FriendsFrame and GuildFrame? |
| 08:43.00 | Gnarfoz | ToggleFriendsFrame(1) gives ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED |
| 08:48.21 | jaxdahl | it says that when you're in combat? |
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| 08:49.36 | jaxdahl | Gnarfoz, works fine for me in combat too - i think something else got tainted for you |
| 08:49.42 | Gnarfoz | jaxdahl: yes, that message afaik *can* only come up in combat |
| 08:49.50 | Gnarfoz | I can open the frame, that's not the problem |
| 08:49.55 | Gnarfoz | I want the error to go away ;> |
| 08:50.50 | Gnarfoz | http://ace.pastey.net/97717 |
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| 09:46.36 | Fisker- | DUND UND UN |
| 09:47.45 | Fisker- | still in here bts |
| 09:47.46 | Fisker- | btw |
| 09:51.18 | jaxdahl | my dk is at 30570 hp unbuffed |
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| 10:01.51 | Fisker- | why so batshit insane? |
| 10:01.52 | Fisker- | >:3 |
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| 10:16.00 | Mundy | holy shit |
| 10:16.03 | Mundy | 30k hp? |
| 10:16.05 | Mundy | mother fuck |
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| 10:45.27 | leethal | zomg @ http://raidcomp.mmo-champion.com/ |
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| 10:48.00 | |pez| | Pondering preordering a couple of WotLK Collectors Editions... |
| 10:49.41 | leethal | which means you have to order at least one as well |
| 10:50.29 | jaxdahl | |pez|, where the heck are preorders available now anyway? i'm sure they've been sold out on preorders for a long time now |
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| 10:54.00 | |pez| | jaxdahl: I'm betting there's a one or two places. |
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| 10:58.09 | |pez| | I sort of want to purchase one collectorsedition for myself, and hunt down a collectorsedition of the original game at some point. |
| 11:00.15 | |pez| | I seemingly can. |
| 11:00.38 | |pez| | Not sure if I should right now. |
| 11:03.51 | Redguard | it's likely blizzard will sell the xpac online as a download |
| 11:03.56 | Redguard | like they did with BC |
| 11:03.59 | Redguard | why wouldn't they |
| 11:04.08 | |pez| | Well, sure. |
| 11:04.13 | |pez| | but I want the collectors edition. |
| 11:04.19 | |pez| | And so does the boyfriend. |
| 11:04.20 | Redguard | which gives you..? |
| 11:04.58 | |pez| | a really cool box that goes with the other collectors edition boxes, a pet, some cool artbook, and some map thing. |
| 11:05.02 | |pez| | and probably some more. |
| 11:05.19 | |pez| | Oh, installers on DVDs as well as CDs. |
| 11:05.37 | Redguard | dvd installer is superior to downloading it and burning it? |
| 11:05.48 | Redguard | i dunno, it sounds like a bunch of fillers one could go without |
| 11:06.00 | Redguard | maybe im just cheap |
| 11:06.16 | Redguard | i dont even have my original box or cdkey on hand anymore |
| 11:06.20 | Gnarfoz | as the normal installer is already on dvd |
| 11:06.24 | Redguard | my friend lost my install cds |
| 11:06.28 | Gnarfoz | I don't see why there would be a set of CDs in the CE. |
| 11:06.32 | |pez| | The boyfriend has the other two collectors ed boxes. |
| 11:06.32 | Redguard | i just download it online |
| 11:06.49 | |pez| | Gnarfoz: Oh, it wasn't like that on the two other releases afaik. |
| 11:06.55 | Gnarfoz | yes, it wasn't |
| 11:06.59 | Redguard | i just dont get the point of collecting boxes :/ |
| 11:07.11 | |pez| | Redguard: the boxes look cool? |
| 11:07.17 | Redguard | havent seen them |
| 11:07.21 | Redguard | im sure they do though |
| 11:07.26 | Redguard | blizzard has good gfx |
| 11:07.35 | Gnarfoz | then blizzard got to their senses and noticed that DVD drives are as ubiquituous as air these days :D |
| 11:07.40 | Redguard | i can't miss what i don't know |
| 11:07.52 | |pez| | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/burningcrusade/townhall/collectors.html |
| 11:08.02 | |pez| | the first box was more brownlike. |
| 11:08.18 | |pez| | and the new one is ofcourse bluelike with icelike things on. |
| 11:08.38 | Redguard | lol outlands mouse pad |
| 11:08.44 | Redguard | "shit, i can't press M, where is my mouse pad" |
| 11:08.47 | Redguard | :P |
| 11:08.54 | |pez| | -___-' |
| 11:08.57 | Gnarfoz | *outland |
| 11:09.09 | Redguard | outlands* |
| 11:09.30 | Gnarfoz | nope. |
| 11:09.34 | |pez| | I think Outland |
| 11:10.46 | |pez| | In either case, I want to get the Collectors ed for WotLK, atleast for the boyfriend, cause it looks shiny and fits with the other two wow collector boxes he has. |
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| 11:14.27 | Redguard | maybe |
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| 11:20.51 | Adys | Outland |
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| 11:34.50 | Adys | has anyone ever setup a graphic diff software for svn? something like http://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git//wine.git?a=commitdiff;h=e20ef5013992e8b6671a238aabe3c962a589c51b |
| 11:35.39 | Cairenn|afk | NO SLEEPS!!!! |
| 11:36.10 | zenzio | Adys: set up in what way? TortoiseSVN has pretty good visual diffs |
| 11:36.23 | Adys | a web UI zenzio |
| 11:36.45 | Adys | I got a personal svn running on my serv, wondering what kind of software do those diffs |
| 11:37.00 | zenzio | see, you through me off with the "software"... not used to calling websites that |
| 11:37.23 | Adys | eh its still software :p but clad answered my question cheers :) |
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| 11:40.25 | cladhaire | webSvn is php |
| 11:40.29 | cladhaire | svn::web is perl |
| 11:40.46 | cladhaire | SVN::Web: http://svn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 11:40.47 | cladhaire | i think |
| 11:40.48 | cladhaire | :P |
| 11:41.32 | Adys | i went with websvn |
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| 11:50.03 | Gnarfoz | what's a taint-free way to show the FriendsFrame and GuildFrame? I get ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED when clicking FuBar_FriendsFu or GuildFu (or open PitBull config, strangely) in combat (the frame opens, though.). (http://ace.pastey.net/97717) |
| 12:03.07 | *** topic/#WoWUIDev by Cairenn|afk -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 2.4.x ToC: 20400 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Wheee! BlizzCon! |
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| 12:14.13 | Lukian | 2My housemate is making wow comics, does anyone have ideas / punchlines they'd like to see? :) |
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| 12:17.54 | cbreak | mages blinking backwards are a classic... :/ |
| 12:19.40 | Redguard | ? |
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| 12:24.05 | Kraps | i think pug's get too much of a bad rap |
| 12:25.40 | zenzio | that's because there is no good rap |
| 12:26.07 | Kraps | 2 out of about 8 pug's in outland that were "bad" isnt too bad |
| 12:26.34 | Fisker- | why so blizzcon Cairenn|afk ? |
| 12:26.42 | Cairenn|afk | cause! |
| 12:26.59 | Cairenn|afk | I am leaving here in the next 15 minutes to go catch my flight |
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| 12:27.15 | Cairenn|afk | :) |
| 12:27.17 | Fisker- | I mean, have a nice flight! |
| 12:27.26 | Cairenn|afk | hehehe |
| 12:27.27 | Kraps | 1 of them i left before starting because of all the "rofl" "lol" businesses |
| 12:27.56 | Kraps | 1 guy ended ever statement with lol |
| 12:28.02 | Kraps | every |
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| 12:33.22 | Kraps | and wtf does "hunter loot" mean? |
| 12:33.38 | Kraps | i cant wrap my head around it |
| 12:33.48 | Fisker- | Thottbot retards |
| 12:34.06 | Fisker- | Usually a hunter would want every item |
| 12:34.12 | Kraps | why? |
| 12:36.08 | |pez| | Because most hunters are tards who need to learn how to play their class? ... Or something. |
| 12:36.17 | Kraps | of shit, paint fumes |
| 12:37.14 | Kraps | |pez|: why ARE most hunters tards who need to learn how to play their class? |
| 12:37.33 | Kraps | because its supposedly easy? |
| 12:37.42 | Kraps | easiest? |
| 12:38.34 | |pez| | I dunnooo |
| 12:38.48 | Kraps | ... |
| 12:38.58 | |pez| | Just saying what I've heard. :P |
| 12:39.43 | Redguard | stereotype to ignorant people that hunters will be the most powerful and versatile class |
| 12:40.01 | Redguard | so it's in their best interest to choose a hunter due to it's ranged abilities and a pet, how can you overcome this |
| 12:40.16 | Redguard | [how you can overcome this comes after they level it and learn it isn't what they expected] |
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| 12:40.37 | Kraps | so they suck as a result |
| 12:40.45 | Redguard | yes |
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| 12:40.47 | |pez| | I was a shit hunter. |
| 12:40.54 | Redguard | exactly |
| 12:40.58 | |pez| | Loved every second of it, but I wasn't really awesoome. |
| 12:41.33 | Kraps | i cant play ranged classes |
| 12:41.58 | |pez| | Or, actually, i PvEd rather ok, But PvP was defenetly not my strongest point. |
| 12:42.38 | Redguard | pve hunter is 1 button |
| 12:42.51 | |pez| | Depends on the prey. :P |
| 12:43.09 | Redguard | ehhh |
| 12:43.11 | Kraps | my brain cannot reconcile the fact that i have to go in the opposite direction of my spells |
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| 12:46.01 | cbreak | yay, my premade finally got copied |
| 12:46.08 | cbreak | mirror image looks fun |
| 12:46.44 | Kraps | blood = dps, frost = tank, unholy = ? |
| 12:46.59 | Kraps | or blood = pvp |
| 12:47.06 | Redguard | huh |
| 12:47.15 | Kraps | i'm asking |
| 12:47.16 | cbreak | frost = dps, fire = dps, arcane = dps. Sometimes it's so simple :) |
| 12:47.22 | Redguard | you don't even make sense |
| 12:47.40 | Kraps | Redguard: why not? |
| 12:47.46 | Redguard | where are you coming from |
| 12:47.48 | Redguard | if i throw out.. |
| 12:47.52 | Redguard | holy = blue sky |
| 12:47.58 | Redguard | it makes just as much sense as what you said |
| 12:48.03 | Redguard | or like, nature = chicken wing |
| 12:48.14 | Kraps | anyone here heard of DK's? |
| 12:48.27 | Kraps | its a new class!!!1111 |
| 12:48.30 | Redguard | of them, not about them |
| 12:48.39 | Kraps | in wrath!!! |
| 12:48.52 | Kraps | yay |
| 12:48.56 | Redguard | amazing!!1oneone!!11one |
| 12:49.00 | Kraps | (ahem) |
| 12:49.00 | Redguard | ..and? |
| 12:49.01 | |pez| | For most people in here, it probably made sense. |
| 12:49.06 | Redguard | i see |
| 12:49.11 | Josh_Borke | no, i don't get it |
| 12:49.14 | Redguard | i'm stuck on live, so |
| 12:49.41 | Kraps | so am i, but i read a lot |
| 12:49.53 | Kraps | at look at talent trees |
| 12:51.34 | Kraps | Matthew Rossi is not a figment of your imagination. Matthew Rossi does not live in Edmonton, AB, in the cold and storied northlands of Canada. Matthew Rossi is not a large silithid. It's possible that this bio is not entirely accurate. |
| 12:51.38 | Kraps | heh |
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| 13:06.38 | Kraps | so when is 3.0 dropping? |
| 13:07.03 | Gnarfoz | next week's maintenance day, whatever that is for your region - most likely |
| 13:08.51 | Kraps | i keep reading about a pre-patch download, but i havent seen one |
| 13:10.48 | Gnarfoz | http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/ should have it, if not, check back some time later. I don't really know why the background downloader sometimes just says 'no data for the next patch available' when it's clearly out there ^^ |
| 13:12.47 | digmouse | stuck on uploading jpg attachments |
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| 13:21.06 | Kraps | imagine the poor newbs reading http://www.wowwiki.com/Hogger_(tactics) >:) |
| 13:26.34 | Fisker- | but his health is 666! |
| 13:26.40 | Fisker- | which is kinda funny :P |
| 13:26.45 | Fisker- | I wonder if it always were that |
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| 13:29.19 | Kraps | In WotLK a new Night elf hairstyle that has been released is named the Mohawk, it looks exactly like Mr.T's mohawk hairstyle, it was likely inspired by him. |
| 13:29.30 | Kraps | ftwawesome |
| 13:30.03 | |pez| | "With my Night Elf Mohawk!" |
| 13:30.34 | Kraps | "shut up fool!" |
| 13:31.03 | Kraps | "mr. condescending director!" |
| 13:36.39 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:36.41 | Kraps | Rumoured to have won WSG, AB and AV matches before. For some reason, no one has ever seen it happen. |
| 13:36.47 | Kraps | ha! |
| 13:36.55 | Kraps | too true |
| 13:39.36 | Fisker- | alliance not win AV? |
| 13:39.37 | Fisker- | Impossible |
| 13:39.38 | nevcairiel | Anyone got the UI diff for 9061? |
| 13:39.42 | nevcairiel | kd3 seems to sleep late =P |
| 13:39.57 | Fisker- | not enough nevcairiel >:E |
| 13:40.07 | Fisker- | They still haven't made signups in the calendar |
| 13:40.53 | nevcairiel | but 12.2 mb is nice and small |
| 13:40.56 | nevcairiel | they are getting close |
| 13:41.12 | Fisker- | 12.2MB? |
| 13:41.34 | nevcairiel | the patch, not the diff |
| 13:41.44 | Fisker- | 26MB here |
| 13:41.57 | Fisker- | Why so traitorous? |
| 13:42.10 | Fisker- | no me |
| 13:42.11 | Fisker- | :( |
| 13:42.15 | Fisker- | that was the last patch |
| 13:42.31 | Fisker- | But yeah |
| 13:42.33 | Fisker- | patch next week |
| 13:42.40 | Fisker- | Still not done though |
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| 13:42.46 | Fisker- | wtb holy fixes and signup on calendar |
| 13:43.00 | nevcairiel | probably one more patch on sunday or monday for all the upcoming class changes |
| 13:43.09 | nevcairiel | and then maybe that one to live |
| 13:43.58 | Fisker- | Infusion of Light still doesn't make much sense in PvE much though :P |
| 13:44.06 | Fisker- | Use 3 seconds to cast a 1,5 second heal |
| 13:45.37 | Gnarfoz | yay :< |
| 13:46.10 | Fisker- | One thing that could be awsum |
| 13:46.15 | Fisker- | macroable IoL |
| 13:46.26 | Fisker- | I.e. /cast divine favor, holy shock, flash of light |
| 13:46.36 | digmouse | anyone have tried uploading attachments in WOWInterface forums? |
| 13:46.36 | Fisker- | But you can't since they care about GCD |
| 13:46.49 | Fisker- | But they shouldn't since they're all instant :P |
| 13:51.37 | Fisker- | damn |
| 13:51.42 | Fisker- | tailoring flying mount is pretty damn cheap |
| 13:59.19 | Adys | is it possible to get the level of a quest I dont have in my log? |
| 14:00.16 | Zeksie | depends if you have the link or not |
| 14:00.26 | Adys | thought so |
| 14:00.48 | Zeksie | Links seem to have hte level in them: \124Hquest:3783:56\124h[Are We There, Yeti?]\124h |
| 14:00.52 | Zeksie | lvl 56 quest |
| 14:00.55 | Adys | aye they do |
| 14:00.57 | Adys | for coloring |
| 14:01.00 | Zeksie | ye |
| 14:01.27 | Zeksie | i'm not sure if this changes with wotlk, being able to share quests via chat etc. |
| 14:01.49 | Adys | didnt test but kinda doubt it |
| 14:03.35 | Fisker- | omgnos |
| 14:03.50 | Fisker- | Forbearance doesn't tick while logged out |
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| 14:06.01 | Shirik|Ecole | lolowned? |
| 14:06.26 | Fisker- | yes! |
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| 14:06.32 | Shirik|Ecole | oops |
| 14:06.34 | Shirik|Ecole | crap! |
| 14:06.51 | Josh_Borke | idiot |
| 14:06.56 | *** topic/#WoWUIDev by Shirik|Ecole -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 2.4.x ToC: 20400 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Wheee! BlizzCon! |
| 14:06.57 | Adys | reported |
| 14:07.03 | Shirik|Ecole | mibbit's /topic command is jacked |
| 14:07.19 | Josh_Borke | sure, blame it on the software |
| 14:07.22 | Shirik|Ecole | command /topic #wowuidev should show you the topic -_- |
| 14:07.34 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:07.36 | Adys | shows the topic |
| 14:07.37 | Josh_Borke | pretty sure it's just PEBKAC |
| 14:07.42 | Adys | and /topic ... sets it |
| 14:11.31 | vithos | they probably intended to give you an easier way to clear topics than "/quote topic #channel :" |
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| 14:17.48 | molgar | anyone here had any issues makeing FauxScrollFrameTemplate in addon-studio? i seems to loose buttons or they change position in the xml file, and sudelny no longer displayed |
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| 14:34.59 | Atriace | ~seen beladona |
| 14:35.04 | purl | beladona <n=Beladona@24.129.136.26> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 17h 36m 32s ago, saying: 'bbl'. |
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| 14:37.19 | Atriace | Can anyone recommend an in-game table viewer? |
| 14:37.22 | Kraps | do i use http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25597 for dps and http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25922 for tanking, or just use the girdle? |
| 14:39.35 | Atriace | I used to use Inspector (http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/2106/?cpage=2) but as you can see it no longer exists. |
| 14:43.23 | AckisWork | Atriace: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/table-inspector.aspx |
| 14:43.46 | Atriace | I haven't been able to get that to work in the PTR yet, have you? |
| 14:44.03 | AckisWork | no just was linking it to you since you said it doesn't exist ;) hehe |
| 14:44.12 | AckisWork | I don't play much wow anymore |
| 14:44.47 | Atriace | Ah. Curious though, did Inspector (Gadget) become Table-Inspector? (http://74.125.45.104/search?q=cache:Nv4pm3viwK4J:www.curse.com/downloads/details/2106/%3Fcpage%3D2+Inspector+(Gadget)+Wow+Addon&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=safari) |
| 14:45.17 | Atriace | They appear to be different authors. |
| 14:45.29 | Josh_Borke | Atriace: i like Fire |
| 14:45.40 | Atriace | fire? |
| 14:45.56 | AckisWork | they do yes, not really sure tbh |
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| 14:46.22 | Josh_Borke | Atriace: to view tables in game |
| 14:46.24 | Josh_Borke | it's on wowi |
| 14:46.34 | Atriace | Never heard of it. |
| 14:46.36 | Atriace | I'll check it out. |
| 14:46.46 | Gnarfoz | tekProber :> |
| 14:46.47 | Josh_Borke | it's written by AnduinLothar |
| 14:47.34 | ShaneSveller | AckisWork: I tried the wotlk branch of ARL last night and ran into a minor bug involving AceLocale |
| 14:47.46 | ShaneSveller | I believe it was missing a translation for Unknown Zone, came up when i clicked Scan Skills |
| 14:47.53 | AckisWork | yah I saw your comment... there's going to be a lot of local issues :) |
| 14:48.09 | ShaneSveller | AckisWork: doesn't prevent any functionality, right? |
| 14:48.13 | AckisWork | no |
| 14:48.21 | AckisWork | it'll just give a warning and default to enUS |
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| 14:48.39 | ShaneSveller | AckisWork: ok, I didn't have time to check anything else out right then and then the damned beta servers went down... |
| 14:48.42 | AckisWork | however it shouldn't cause things to break if there's no enUS |
| 14:49.02 | ShaneSveller | AckisWork: I use enUS, so that's fine for me :P |
| 14:51.26 | AckisWork | ShaneSveller: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/tickets/98-localization-issues-missng-en-us/ |
| 14:52.13 | ShaneSveller | glad I didn't open a new ticket then |
| 14:52.20 | AckisWork | I just opened it |
| 14:52.22 | AckisWork | :) |
| 14:54.51 | Atriace | Josh_Borke: Fire is borked |
| 14:55.13 | nevcairiel | ~borked |
| 14:55.14 | purl | borked is, like, to have totally ****ed something up. Usually by doing something stupid. Specifically used to describe technology that is broken. The word is in reference to Robert Bork, a nominee to the Supreme Court who, despite being very qualified was not appointed to the court due to partisan reasons. |
| 14:55.22 | nevcairiel | hey who changed it |
| 14:55.26 | Atriace | lol |
| 14:55.28 | nevcairiel | ~factinfo borked |
| 14:55.28 | purl | borked -- created by floele <n=Miranda@p3EE27A0E.dip.t-dialin.net> at Sun Jan 28 19:39:34 2007 (618 days); it has been requested 9 times, last by nevcairiel, 14s ago. |
| 14:55.42 | zenzelezz | sure that's the one? |
| 14:55.46 | zenzelezz | ~swedish chef |
| 14:55.47 | purl | BORK! BORK! BORK! |
| 14:55.48 | nevcairiel | dunno |
| 14:55.57 | Josh_Borke | ~borke |
| 14:56.03 | Atriace | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5435-Fire.html |
| 14:56.07 | nevcairiel | i was looking for the one that says "broked means touched by Josh_Borke" |
| 14:56.09 | Josh_Borke | Atriace: meh, last time i used it it worked |
| 14:56.13 | Atriace | I'm getting io errors |
| 14:56.35 | Atriace | Josh_Borke: on the live servers or PTR? |
| 14:56.45 | Josh_Borke | live |
| 14:56.46 | Josh_Borke | moths ago |
| 14:56.55 | Atriace | ah |
| 14:57.11 | Atriace | Many moths ago when the twilights housed cocoons... |
| 14:57.34 | Atriace | It would appear no table inspector exists that's compatible with the PTR |
| 14:57.44 | Atriace | I might have to build my own. :( |
| 14:59.18 | Kraps | anyone have any screenshots of the threat meter blizz is putting in? |
| 14:59.45 | nevcairiel | didnt they remove that again? |
| 15:00.06 | Kraps | !!! |
| 15:00.11 | Kraps | why?! |
| 15:00.30 | Fisker- | They didn't |
| 15:00.38 | Fisker- | Although they've changed it a couple of times |
| 15:00.53 | nevcairiel | The UI of it was removed, last i checked the code |
| 15:01.01 | nevcairiel | you only get the indicators on party frames and tooltips |
| 15:01.32 | nevcairiel | and of course the combat-text messages |
| 15:01.36 | nevcairiel | in the 3d world |
| 15:01.39 | nevcairiel | mighty helpful, imho |
| 15:02.23 | Fisker- | There's target indicators, color indicators, 3d world indicators, etc. |
| 15:02.44 | nevcairiel | yeah but the real UI was removed |
| 15:02.47 | nevcairiel | so dont BS us :P |
| 15:03.09 | Fisker- | "real ui"? |
| 15:03.14 | Kraps | dunno why i'm leveling dagger skill |
| 15:03.22 | Fisker- | The UI before was crap |
| 15:03.32 | nevcairiel | it had omen-style bars for your target frame for some time |
| 15:03.48 | Fisker- | Never seen that |
| 15:03.56 | Fisker- | And i doubt it given Blizzard's design mantra |
| 15:04.17 | nevcairiel | check the old framexml diffs if you are even able to udnerstand it :P |
| 15:04.36 | Fisker- | Seeing is believing |
| 15:04.39 | Fisker- | ss or it didn't happen |
| 15:04.52 | Fisker- | Blizzard has always said they're not going to do that kind of UI |
| 15:04.55 | Kraps | the dagger i have has higher dps than both of my other weaps :/ |
| 15:07.30 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: still they did it :) |
| 15:07.36 | nevcairiel | But as i said, they removed it again |
| 15:08.21 | jaxdahl2 | there was nothing in there you couldn't recreate, was there? |
| 15:08.49 | nevcairiel | no |
| 15:08.56 | nevcairiel | it was pretty simple |
| 15:09.01 | jaxdahl2 | omen/ktm is 'realtime' anyway |
| 15:09.02 | nevcairiel | just 5 bars with a texture and all |
| 15:09.13 | nevcairiel | not more realtime then the default ui is/was |
| 15:09.34 | jaxdahl2 | afaik the internal thing blizz had only trigged on threat updates |
| 15:09.44 | jaxdahl2 | omen/ktm use combat log stuff |
| 15:10.05 | nevcairiel | jaxdahl2: not for 3.0 they dont |
| 15:10.23 | jaxdahl2 | sure? |
| 15:10.37 | nevcairiel | 100% for omen, 95 for KTM |
| 15:11.11 | nevcairiel | Why bother coding all that shit that deals with the weirdness, bugs and missing information in the combatlog, if you can just use the API |
| 15:11.20 | vapid | ^ |
| 15:11.32 | vapid | less resource intensive too i'd imagine |
| 15:12.01 | molgar | anyone here useing addon studio for wow ? |
| 15:12.12 | nevcairiel | Especially with 3.0, Blizzard changed alot of the threat modifiers on tank classes |
| 15:12.20 | nevcairiel | figuring that out again, no thanks :P |
| 15:13.17 | jaxdahl2 | ok, omen3 currently uses blizz threat info only |
| 15:13.18 | jaxdahl2 | KTM opted for raid scanning |
| 15:13.37 | nevcairiel | what KTM calls raid scanning is also blizz threat info |
| 15:13.47 | jaxdahl2 | which is indirectly based on blizz threat info, yes |
| 15:14.07 | jaxdahl2 | can pick up threat on mobs you haven't engaged though, which other members in your raid have engaged |
| 15:14.59 | vapid | i think blizz would do well to leave the api calls but not do their own interface |
| 15:15.21 | Josh_Borke | what's the point in dropping their interface? |
| 15:16.46 | vapid | if there is still a perceived legitimate need in a raiding guild for a third party interface for it, they should focus their development efforts elsewhere and let the community do it |
| 15:16.49 | vapid | just my opinion though |
| 15:17.10 | Josh_Borke | i thought they were done with the threat ui? |
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| 15:17.41 | vapid | i came in on the tail end of this but i believe someone said they had removed the ui (again?) |
| 15:18.07 | jaxdahl2 | i personally haven't found a _great_ need to have a bar style threat meter, as a tank myself |
| 15:18.28 | Josh_Borke | reading back, it sounds like they removed the bar style threat meter |
| 15:18.36 | Josh_Borke | which i don't think is necessary for base ui |
| 15:18.41 | jaxdahl2 | the basic threat info provided on my unit frames works quite well, as well as the onscreen combat text |
| 15:19.32 | vapid | i will bow out then, as i'm not as experienced with the way it's implemented. apologies. |
| 15:19.33 | jaxdahl2 | on 4H, the other melee tank is a paladin, so i have to wait for them to taunt my mob off me before i taunt theirs. Scrolling combat text tells me 'Changed target!' |
| 15:21.17 | Kraps | what does the unit frame and scrolling look like? |
| 15:21.39 | Kraps | regarding threat |
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| 15:23.05 | Kraps | screens or vids |
| 15:25.30 | jaxdahl2 | lemme look for screens |
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| 15:26.26 | Kraps | thanks |
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| 15:29.35 | jaxdahl2 | no screens at this moment, i'll pull one from a vid cap |
| 15:32.51 | jaxdahl2 | http://jax2.zenblue.net/pw_tooltip.png -- tooltip example |
| 15:32.57 | jaxdahl2 | 404, sec |
| 15:33.19 | haste | one sec, two sec, three sec |
| 15:33.22 | Kraps | lol |
| 15:33.55 | jaxdahl2 | ok go |
| 15:34.31 | Kraps | my web filter is... uh... |
| 15:34.33 | vapid | is that "40% threat" relative to the tank? as in you have 40% of the threat on this target that the tank does? |
| 15:34.34 | haste | also I read that domain as zenbu :( |
| 15:34.50 | Fisker- | I believe it's an option vapid |
| 15:35.04 | Kraps | photobucket? |
| 15:35.11 | Fisker- | One is relative to pulling aggro, the other is relative to your real aggro |
| 15:35.19 | Fisker- | I believe the default is relative to pulling aggro |
| 15:35.24 | Fisker- | so 100% = aggro |
| 15:35.30 | nevcairiel | I dont think you can configure that in the default ui |
| 15:35.37 | nevcairiel | but yeah it uses 100% as pull-aggro |
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| 15:38.15 | jaxdahl2 | http://jax2.zenblue.net/4h_1.jpg |
| 15:38.27 | jaxdahl2 | vapid, i have 40% of the threat required to pull |
| 15:39.00 | jaxdahl2 | on that screenshot, note that the nameplate is yellow on baron |
| 15:39.13 | jaxdahl2 | that means my threat is high on it. if it is red, that means it's aggroed on me |
| 15:39.17 | jaxdahl2 | makes AOE pulls very clear |
| 15:39.55 | vapid | interesting |
| 15:40.00 | vapid | thank you for the clarification :D |
| 15:40.08 | jaxdahl2 | and look at the raid frames, hard to see b/c of the compression |
| 15:40.27 | jaxdahl2 | i'm the lower right unit on the raid frames, yellow diamond on the right side of it |
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| 15:40.44 | Gnarfoz | jaxdahl: why so resized |
| 15:40.52 | jaxdahl2 | Gnarfoz, it's from a FRAPS cap |
| 15:41.03 | Gnarfoz | recorded at half-sized? :< |
| 15:41.12 | jaxdahl2 | 1920x1200 is a big too big to record :p |
| 15:41.23 | Shirik|Ecole | for you! |
| 15:41.24 | Gnarfoz | for you, maybe :[ |
| 15:41.24 | jaxdahl2 | and look at 3rd column, 2nd row, that warrior taunted off me, he has a red diamond on his unit |
| 15:41.26 | Gnarfoz | => |
| 15:41.33 | Shirik|Ecole | Get a dual core computer |
| 15:41.43 | jaxdahl2 | i _can_ record full size |
| 15:41.58 | jaxdahl2 | but it's pointless when i don't plan to upload videos at 1920x1200 |
| 15:41.59 | Gnarfoz | don't see diamond :\ |
| 15:42.03 | jaxdahl2 | very hard to see |
| 15:42.13 | jaxdahl2 | it's on the right side of the hp/rage bars |
| 15:42.16 | Gnarfoz | indeed. |
| 15:42.20 | Shirik|Ecole | haven't you ever heard of oversampling, jaxdahl? |
| 15:42.30 | Shirik|Ecole | Done very frequently in the audio industry during recording :) |
| 15:42.33 | Shirik|Ecole | Applies to video too |
| 15:42.47 | jaxdahl2 | let me save it as png |
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| 15:44.51 | jaxdahl2 | http://jax2.zenblue.net/4h_1.png |
| 15:45.11 | Fisker- | Shirik|Ecole |
| 15:45.17 | Fisker- | i want you to ask Blizzard to fix blessings |
| 15:45.18 | Shirik|Ecole | Fisker- |
| 15:45.21 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 15:45.26 | Shirik|Ecole | noty |
| 15:45.36 | Shirik|Ecole | I like pallies sucking, means I will be picked to heal more :D |
| 15:45.50 | Fisker- | :( |
| 15:46.23 | vapid | yea 1920x1200 on a 15" lcd doesnt like how tiny that capture is |
| 15:48.23 | Shirik|Ecole | you're thinking about it wrong |
| 15:48.27 | Shirik|Ecole | you don't view it at 1920x1200 |
| 15:48.40 | Shirik|Ecole | you perform filtering at 1920x1200 and then downsample |
| 15:48.58 | vapid | ...nono. im saying the link he posted is too tiny to tell details on my work laptop. |
| 15:49.02 | Shirik|Ecole | oh |
| 15:49.11 | vapid | :) |
| 15:49.14 | jaxdahl2 | it's 960x600 |
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| 15:51.16 | jaxdahl2 | if someone else comes close to threat to me, i think it's percentage based, but i could be wrong -- 90 or 95% |
| 15:51.27 | jaxdahl2 | the onscreen combat text will say 'Losing threat!' |
| 15:51.37 | jaxdahl2 | they will see 'High threat!' on their screen |
| 15:51.54 | Shirik|Ecole | But you aren't losing threawt |
| 15:51.56 | Shirik|Ecole | threat* |
| 15:52.36 | Shirik|Ecole | unless you use something like fade |
| 15:52.39 | Shirik|Ecole | or the boss has an ability |
| 15:52.42 | jaxdahl2 | maybe it says 'losing target', i can't remember |
| 15:53.25 | Shirik|Ecole | semantics :) |
| 15:53.29 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't like "losing target" either |
| 15:54.17 | nevcairiel | the feature is nice though |
| 15:54.21 | nevcairiel | who cares what the text is :D |
| 15:54.25 | Josh_Borke | Shirik|Ecole: really? you're arguing over the fact that threat isn't actually lost? |
| 15:54.32 | Shirik|Ecole | not arguing |
| 15:54.39 | Shirik|Ecole | that's why I said |
| 15:54.43 | Shirik|Ecole | (11:53:25) (@Shirik|Ecole) semantics :) |
| 15:54.51 | Josh_Borke | Shirik|Ecole: besides, no one asked for your opinion :-P |
| 15:55.04 | Shirik|Ecole | I didn't realize my opinion had to be requested |
| 15:55.18 | Shirik|Ecole | Matter of fact, I didn't ask for your opinion about my opinion, actually |
| 15:55.27 | Josh_Borke | oh ,but my opinion doesn't have to be requested! |
| 15:55.35 | Shirik|Ecole | good, then neither does mine |
| 15:55.35 | Josh_Borke | purl has a standing request for my opinion |
| 15:55.52 | Josh_Borke | i slip her cookies at night |
| 15:56.46 | Shirik|Ecole | purl, Must shirik's opinion be requested? |
| 15:56.51 | Shirik|Ecole | purl, Must shirik's opinion be requested |
| 15:56.56 | Shirik|Ecole | you fail so much :( |
| 15:57.02 | Shirik|Ecole | oh, I fail |
| 15:57.08 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 15:57.50 | Fisker- | btw |
| 15:57.52 | jaxdahl2 | http://jax2.zenblue.net/4h.x264.avi |
| 15:57.59 | jaxdahl2 | this may make it more clear what goes on |
| 15:58.00 | Fisker- | That botting is possible = bad programming from Blizzard |
| 15:58.13 | Fisker- | I could like make the best antibotting software ever |
| 15:58.20 | Josh_Borke | Fisker-: how's that? |
| 15:58.22 | jaxdahl2 | 17.3mb, ~16 seconds |
| 15:58.23 | kneeki | haha |
| 15:58.27 | Fisker- | if(cheating == true) |
| 15:58.28 | Shirik|Ecole | Josh_Borke: In python it's easy |
| 15:58.30 | Fisker- | throw exception; |
| 15:58.33 | Shirik|Ecole | import antibot; |
| 15:58.34 | Fisker- | ZOMG I R WIN |
| 15:59.05 | Josh_Borke | i like Shirik|Ecole's better |
| 15:59.14 | Fisker- | :( |
| 15:59.56 | Fisker- | But it was funneh! |
| 16:00.08 | Fisker- | Someone said that Blizzard was lazy and should just fix their flawed programming |
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| 16:19.01 | jaxdahl2 | did anyone else look at the video? |
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| 16:32.23 | Movix | hi, how can i get the native size of a texture file (width and height) ? |
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| 16:42.33 | Movix | hi, how can i get the native size of a texture file (width and height) ? |
| 16:42.40 | cladhaire | you can't. |
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| 16:43.19 | Atriace | Movix: you could always open the texture file and verify manually |
| 16:43.31 | Atriace | For instance, all spell icons are normally 64x64 |
| 16:44.08 | Atriace | Anyone know if there's something I need to set on a ScrollingMessageFrame before I can use SetBackdropColor? |
| 16:45.07 | Atriace | I have a ScrollingMessageFrame visible onscreen with text outputting to it properly, but I can't get a backdrop to show. The frame has its x/y/loc set properly. |
| 16:45.22 | cladhaire | did you give it a backdrop? |
| 16:45.33 | Atriace | exactly |
| 16:45.34 | cladhaire | i.e. yourFrame:SetBackdrop(GameTooltip:GetBackdrop()) as a test? |
| 16:45.45 | Atriace | hehe |
| 16:45.47 | Atriace | one sec |
| 16:46.33 | Atriace | ew |
| 16:47.14 | Atriace | Alright, i had frame:SetBackdrop(myTable) but I had left bgFile and edgeFile as nil since I didn't want a texture, just a color fill. |
| 16:47.46 | cladhaire | you need to have a texture, afaik |
| 16:47.54 | Atriace | boo |
| 16:47.58 | cladhaire | it can be a solid texture with no opactiy |
| 16:48.02 | cladhaire | or varying levels |
| 16:48.05 | Atriace | Thanks, cladhaire. |
| 16:48.06 | cladhaire | I'd have to look again |
| 16:48.25 | ScytheBlade1 | End: if was slow because I upped the scan duration to 1h before I went to bed |
| 16:52.03 | Movix | so creating a new texture object and assigning it a texturefile will resize it to the files dimensions ? |
| 16:52.10 | End | ah |
| 16:52.23 | End | it got it shortly after I started patching |
| 16:52.57 | Movix | Altriace: is that what you mean by "Manualy" ? |
| 16:53.12 | ScytheBlade1 | End: I didn't want to leave it running at one scan per second when I slept :) |
| 16:59.50 | Xinhuan | Movix: nope |
| 17:00.07 | Xinhuan | creating a new texture and assigning it a texturefile is insufficient to show the texture |
| 17:00.40 | Xinhuan | because an object won't render unless it is given a width and height first (which can be implicit via anchoring) |
| 17:01.11 | Movix | i did not unterstood what was ment by "Manualy", i'd like to get the size of a texture file to set the appropriate width and hieight to the texture widget |
| 17:01.31 | Xinhuan | it means, you need a NPQ viewer/extractor and extract out the actual BLP file in the data MPQs |
| 17:01.47 | Xinhuan | then open it in a program capable of viewing BLP files, or converting BLP->PNG or otherwise |
| 17:01.56 | Xinhuan | then opening it in your photoshop to see the native size |
| 17:02.03 | Movix | ok i know all this |
| 17:02.20 | Xinhuan | there's no other way to get the "size" of a texture |
| 17:02.54 | Movix | so for the correct displaying of a texturefile (or path in MPQ) i need to know by my self the size to set the width and height of the texute widget ! |
| 17:03.01 | Xinhuan | correct |
| 17:03.12 | Xinhuan | wow doesn't provide any means to show the native size |
| 17:03.17 | Tem | not really |
| 17:03.26 | Tem | if you don't set a size it'll sometimes work |
| 17:03.37 | Tem | it must have a location, though |
| 17:03.50 | Xinhuan | it won't because an object must have a location and a width/height |
| 17:03.59 | Tem | try this for me |
| 17:04.18 | ZorbaBeta | anyone know if there's a way to determine if a certain item is "openable", either by item ID or by bag location? |
| 17:04.23 | Movix | ok thx a lot |
| 17:04.25 | Tem | local t = UIParent:CreateTexture("ARTWORK","bobdole") |
| 17:04.44 | Xinhuan | ZorbaBeta i think the only way is to scan the tooltip for <Right Click to Open> |
| 17:04.45 | Tem | t:SetPoint("CENTER") |
| 17:04.47 | Tem | t:SetTexture("your\\texture\\path") |
| 17:05.16 | Tem | Xinhuan: I'm 80% sure what I've just posted works |
| 17:05.18 | ZorbaBeta | and I'm guessing it's not possible to get that tooltip without actually having the item in your inventory? :/ |
| 17:05.26 | Tem | even without setting the texture's size |
| 17:05.32 | Xinhuan | don't think so ZorbaBeta |
| 17:05.35 | ZorbaBeta | argh. |
| 17:05.39 | kd3 | wtf. different beta build than PTR? |
| 17:05.46 | Tem | it's true for a /frame/ to be visible it needs a size and location |
| 17:05.47 | Xinhuan | the <> text only appears for setting tooltips specifically in your bags |
| 17:05.56 | ZorbaBeta | yeah, that's kinda what I figured |
| 17:05.57 | Tem | but I'm 80% sure textures can cheat |
| 17:06.01 | Tem | kd3: d'oh |
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| 17:06.10 | ZorbaBeta | oh this is not going to be easy. |
| 17:06.12 | Duman | kd3: !?? |
| 17:06.20 | Duman | kd3: I connected to the ptr no problem |
| 17:06.20 | Tem | Do we know anything about the Rune Strike buff yet? |
| 17:06.20 | Xinhuan | well maybe Tem's right, go test and report the results Movix :) |
| 17:06.23 | kd3 | ptr's 9056, beta's 9061 |
| 17:06.36 | Tem | GC said something about Acclimation buffing Rune Strike |
| 17:06.38 | Duman | (w/ the beta client) |
| 17:06.45 | jaxdahl2 | tem, negative |
| 17:07.00 | Tem | jaxdahl2, you tank as frost, right? |
| 17:07.02 | Duman | I don't think rune strike needs another buff |
| 17:07.03 | jaxdahl2 | they did boost frost presence from 45 to 60 |
| 17:07.04 | jaxdahl2 | yes tem |
| 17:07.07 | Duman | it hits like a goddamn truck already :) |
| 17:07.10 | zenzelezz | interesting realm lag... chat works, actions don't... been trying to mount up or mine this ore vein for nearly ten minutes now |
| 17:07.17 | Tem | Duman: it's a tanking tool |
| 17:07.22 | Movix | Tem: Yes it works |
| 17:07.22 | Tem | it should hit like a truck |
| 17:07.30 | Tem | because our other dps goes to hell from the front of the mo |
| 17:07.32 | Tem | mob* |
| 17:07.35 | Tem | Movix: :) |
| 17:07.38 | Tem | Xinhuan: ^^ |
| 17:07.44 | Duman | heh |
| 17:07.52 | jaxdahl2 | tem, http://jax2.zenblue.net/4ha.x264.avi |
| 17:07.59 | Xinhuan | so everytime you want to find the native size, you need to create a new texture object? |
| 17:08.01 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 17:08.01 | Tem | jaxdahl2, do you take Blood of the North? |
| 17:08.06 | Atriace | Is a TitleRegion required for a frame to become movable? |
| 17:08.09 | Xinhuan | you'll end up with a lot of objects then |
| 17:08.14 | Xinhuan | Atriace no |
| 17:08.17 | Tem | Now, I'm not sure you can even get the size of it that way |
| 17:08.27 | Tem | I was late to the conversation so I didn't get the context |
| 17:08.28 | jaxdahl2 | tem, i haven't tanked recently with it but i'm speccing 5/5 BotN to see if it helps/hurts anything |
| 17:08.32 | Xinhuan | addon code can do :StartMoving() on a frame |
| 17:08.40 | jaxdahl2 | 7/51/13 |
| 17:08.48 | Tem | 7? |
| 17:08.51 | Movix | i get the size back by using GetWidth an GetHeight, it works to |
| 17:08.52 | Xinhuan | TitleRegion is just a blizzard way without needing you to code anything |
| 17:08.54 | Tem | 2/2 weapon spec? |
| 17:08.55 | jaxdahl2 | BB+2h |
| 17:09.13 | Atriace | Xinhuan: I'll give it a shot |
| 17:09.19 | Tem | I tend to go 5/X/10 |
| 17:09.33 | Xinhuan | some addons use OnMouseDown/Up scripts |
| 17:09.40 | Atriace | Xinhuan: wait, that function call seems time determinate. I would also need |
| 17:09.43 | Xinhuan | but you have to be careful about using these |
| 17:09.44 | jaxdahl2 | http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deathknight=0050020000000000000000000003250505103032111301005101350035230000000000000000000000000 |
| 17:09.45 | Atriace | took the words out of my mouth |
| 17:10.06 | jaxdahl2 | Tem, currently standing at 30k armor with imp devo aura |
| 17:10.12 | Xinhuan | because if some other event hides the frame you are moving, and you are moving the parent of the frame you just hid |
| 17:10.14 | Atriace | So there is also :StopMoving(), I assume? |
| 17:10.22 | Xinhuan | the OnMouseUp would then never occur |
| 17:10.29 | Xinhuan | so your OnHide must account for that as well |
| 17:10.37 | Xinhuan | otherwise the frame gets stuck to your mouseforever |
| 17:10.39 | Tem | jaxdahl2: no annihilation? |
| 17:10.43 | Xinhuan | (remember when omen did that?) |
| 17:10.52 | jaxdahl2 | no. i use death strike if HB isn't available usually |
| 17:11.03 | NeoTron | jaxdahl2: have you tested blood caked blade at all? In my testing after 360 or so white swings, the proc rate was 12.5% |
| 17:11.03 | Atriace | Can't say I do, but I understand the issue. |
| 17:11.04 | jaxdahl2 | or just IT/PS |
| 17:11.14 | NeoTron | a far cry from 30% |
| 17:11.23 | Xinhuan | you can also use OnDragStart and OnDragStop |
| 17:11.28 | jaxdahl2 | NeoTron, with or without rune strike? |
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| 17:11.36 | NeoTron | just autoattacking |
| 17:11.38 | NeoTron | nothing else |
| 17:11.39 | Lunessa | STATION! |
| 17:11.43 | NeoTron | using no abiltiies at all |
| 17:11.51 | Xinhuan | which isn't quite the same as OnMouseUp/Down of course |
| 17:12.11 | jaxdahl2 | i haven't tested it lately, no |
| 17:12.35 | Xinhuan | the action bars normally use OnDragStart to pickup a spell from a action button, for eg |
| 17:12.36 | Tem | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=j0xZGxxthcdRhR0sstcgh |
| 17:12.39 | NeoTron | I can't imagine 360 hits is too few to show an accurate estimation, if not exact. Something is weird for sure |
| 17:12.44 | Xinhuan | rather than actually moving the button |
| 17:12.48 | jaxdahl2 | NeoTron, was it dodged/parried/blocked? |
| 17:12.54 | Tem | if my healers can't keep up without me healing myself, my gear isn't good enough |
| 17:13.03 | jaxdahl2 | it may have an internal cooldown... |
| 17:13.16 | jaxdahl2 | of 10 seconds |
| 17:13.22 | Tem | GC posted recently saying they tested internally and it was procing correctly |
| 17:13.23 | NeoTron | one dodge white, 1 dodge blood caked |
| 17:13.50 | Tem | jaxdahl2: what codec is that file? |
| 17:13.51 | jaxdahl2 | http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t26113-death_knight_wotlk_discussion_-_talents_abilities/p103/#post927360 |
| 17:13.52 | NeoTron | and yes the thought is taht it does have an internal cooldown but Ghostcrawler claims it procs as it should |
| 17:13.54 | jaxdahl2 | Tem, x264 |
| 17:14.04 | Tem | my work machine can't play it |
| 17:14.13 | jaxdahl2 | :( |
| 17:15.00 | NeoTron | both necrosis and blood caked blade seems rather bad for their point investment today |
| 17:15.11 | [dRaCo] | anyone got a 3.0.2 prepatch enGB torrent for me? |
| 17:15.25 | NeoTron | BCB seems almost better if you just put 1 point in there, maybe 2. proc rate wouldn't be much lower |
| 17:15.28 | Tem | jaxdahl2: re-encode imo |
| 17:16.57 | Xinhuan | [dRaCo]: look in your wow folder |
| 17:17.07 | Xinhuan | in the cache folder, there is a .torrent file |
| 17:17.11 | Xinhuan | feel free to use that ;p |
| 17:17.18 | NeoTron | jaxdahl2: I guess all you need to do to get full benefit from BCB is to get a 10.0 speed weapon |
| 17:17.24 | Xinhuan | the background downloader stashes it there |
| 17:17.31 | [dRaCo] | oh |
| 17:17.33 | Xinhuan | but you can use it in any torrent program pretty much |
| 17:17.37 | [dRaCo] | thanks |
| 17:17.52 | [dRaCo] | yeah, didn't know the background downloader stores it there |
| 17:18.05 | Pneumatus | BackgroundDownloader.torrent should be in your Cache folder |
| 17:18.13 | Pneumatus | assuming you run the downloader once anywya |
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| 17:18.20 | Tem | NeoTron: that sounds great, sign me up |
| 17:18.24 | [dRaCo] | not yet, but I guess I can do that ;) |
| 17:18.28 | Atriace | Xinhuan: what about resizing? Window is moving fine now, but with frame:SetResizable(true), the frame isn't resizable yet. |
| 17:18.57 | Xinhuan | frame:StartSizing() |
| 17:19.03 | Atriace | ah |
| 17:19.17 | Atriace | and just StopMovingOrSizing when finished |
| 17:19.19 | Xinhuan | normally you want to create a miniframe and stick it in the corner of your parent frame |
| 17:19.29 | Tem | mmmmmmm big numbers |
| 17:19.38 | Xinhuan | and when this miniframe is clicked on, you resize the parent with StartSizing() |
| 17:19.54 | Xinhuan | just make sure you set something like |
| 17:19.55 | Xinhuan | self.Grip:SetScript("OnHide", self.Grip:GetScript("OnMouseUp")) |
| 17:20.07 | Xinhuan | so that if that resizing grip gets hidden, it stops moving it as well |
| 17:20.25 | Xinhuan | you'll probably have an option to lock your window, show you can show/hide that resizing grip |
| 17:20.35 | Atriace | Thanks |
| 17:21.32 | NeoTron | it's funny when soloing |
| 17:22.02 | NeoTron | sometimes you attack a mob and then it's dead and looking at the combat log you realize it's due to a crit runestrike |
| 17:22.03 | jaxdahl2 | yea, biggest RS i've gotten is 6984 |
| 17:24.54 | jaxdahl2 | got a time-lost proto-drake mount this morning |
| 17:25.29 | Tem | from where? |
| 17:25.37 | Tem | I think the proto drakes are the coolest things ever |
| 17:25.42 | Tem | so I want one hella bad |
| 17:25.56 | Tem | also because our mount is fugly |
| 17:26.21 | Neuro_Medivh | the deathchicken? |
| 17:26.50 | Dashkal | ^^ |
| 17:26.55 | Dashkal | Want.better.mount |
| 17:27.07 | Dashkal | if it wasn't for the wyrmrest drake I'd be grinding netherwing |
| 17:27.31 | Dashkal | this raid comp calculator is fun |
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| 17:28.20 | jaxdahl2 | tem, rare spawn, 'Time-lost Proto-Drake' in storm peaks |
| 17:28.30 | jaxdahl2 | i think it was flying over brunnhildar |
| 17:28.40 | jaxdahl2 | GetCombatRatingBonus, GetCombatRating, what's the difference? |
| 17:29.47 | Xinhuan | one gives the % |
| 17:29.50 | Xinhuan | the other gives the rating |
| 17:29.51 | jaxdahl2 | gotcha |
| 17:31.57 | NeoTron | wow |
| 17:32.09 | NeoTron | I saw a rare dragon in storm peaks |
| 17:32.21 | jaxdahl2 | dragon or proto-drake? |
| 17:32.22 | NeoTron | dropped a blue and a bag with some motes and 24g or so |
| 17:32.26 | NeoTron | dragon |
| 17:32.30 | jaxdahl2 | name? |
| 17:32.30 | NeoTron | not the proto drake |
| 17:32.42 | jaxdahl2 | the proto-drake dropped 19g |
| 17:32.47 | jaxdahl2 | and the epic mount |
| 17:34.17 | NeoTron | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?npc=32630 |
| 17:34.27 | NeoTron | what sucks for you is that it dropped on beta :P |
| 17:34.50 | NeoTron | that proto drake isn't in the achievement |
| 17:34.53 | NeoTron | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?achievement=2256 |
| 17:35.27 | jaxdahl2 | yea i know |
| 17:35.40 | jaxdahl2 | i would've /bugged it but /bug is disabled now for some reason |
| 17:36.20 | NeoTron | weird |
| 17:36.22 | jaxdahl2 | i should've followed it to map out its patrol path so i could grab it on live |
| 17:36.25 | NeoTron | closer to release I guess |
| 17:36.48 | NeoTron | the dragon was funny, I did a mounted attack and had to strangulate her to get her to land |
| 17:37.44 | NeoTron | man the achievements to kill ALL rare mobs are pretty insane |
| 17:40.10 | ZorbaBeta | it wouldn't be *that* bad, you just mark where they all are and fly around checking on them every time you log on |
| 17:40.38 | Xinhuan | don't you wish Routes worked cross-zone now? (psshh, not implementing anytime soon) |
| 17:40.46 | NeoTron | you could spend like an hour doing that |
| 17:40.50 | NeoTron | the zones aren't small |
| 17:41.20 | NeoTron | one of the rare mobs is also the ONLY spirit beast in the game (rare tamable mob for hunters) so it'll be doubly hunted |
| 17:41.49 | Dashkal | Ahh, Broken Tooth... How I remember you |
| 17:43.43 | jaxdahl2 | er, is there an achievement to kill all of them? |
| 17:44.13 | jaxdahl2 | yes, you're right |
| 17:44.32 | jaxdahl2 | and yes, they are quite rare, moreso than tbc ones i think |
| 17:44.46 | ZorbaBeta | neo, sure, ya could, but you've got a good chance of finding one or two of them the first few times you skim |
| 17:45.05 | ZorbaBeta | and with a moderately clever plugin, it could route you past each rare monster as you go about your other duties automatically |
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| 17:50.30 | ccox | Ahh, Broken Tooth, how I hate that they nerfed you after I spent a week finding and taming you pre-BC |
| 17:51.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Xinhuan: yes, yes I do |
| 17:51.10 | Dashkal | I was pretty bitter myself... then I realized I could have a pet that wasn't boring as hell brown |
| 17:51.11 | ScytheBlade1 | =] |
| 17:52.00 | Lunessa | Heh, back in the day I ran my NE hunter all the way to the Undead starting area at level 10 so I could tame a bat. |
| 17:52.20 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 17:52.27 | ScytheBlade1 | That's quite the run |
| 17:52.46 | Dashkal | And I was annoyed at the wetlands run... |
| 17:52.55 | Lunessa | it was. And all because I didn't want the same sort of pet that everyone else was using. |
| 17:53.23 | Lunessa | Every NE hunter had a cat, and every dwarf had a bear. I wanted to be different. |
| 17:54.10 | Dashkal | I still like my cats, but that's prolly because I'm a cat person *shrugs* |
| 17:54.47 | Dashkal | I keep hearing hunters QQ about how exotic pets aren't anything special. I breathe a sigh of relief. I can keep my kitty and get my extra 4 points |
| 17:56.05 | ccox | I still have a cat as my maini pet - the white lion model (from the spawned level 60) |
| 17:56.24 | Dashkal | I tend to stick with the black striped or spotted nightsabers |
| 17:57.37 | Lunessa | Exotic pets are going to be all the rage for like... 3 months. Then you'll see a lot of bears and cats again. |
| 17:58.11 | ccox | as long as they stop shaking the ground all the @#$%@#$% time |
| 17:59.07 | Dashkal | *nodnog* I'd go nuts having a continuous earthquake |
| 18:02.07 | Lunessa | http://www.spike.com/video/pg-porn-pg-porn/3041858 |
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| 18:12.26 | Fisker- | Zootfizzle get him! |
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| 18:12.57 | Thunder_Child | ~whaleslap Fisker- |
| 18:12.58 | purl | ACTION beats Fisker- upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 18:14.38 | Thunder_Child | good |
| 18:15.23 | Tem | Dashkal: go get a spirit beast |
| 18:16.05 | Tem | http://i37.tinypic.com/vq7dsh.jpg |
| 18:17.16 | Dashkal | Tem: damn that's sexy. What I want, though, is one of those stone ones (I don't believe there are any tamable ones at present) |
| 18:18.03 | kd3 | oh wow. haven't seen that in a while... |
| 18:18.09 | kd3 | lost the sat signal due to heavy rain |
| 18:18.16 | kd3 | yay rain for the first time in a few weeks |
| 18:18.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, you're on a satellite link? |
| 18:18.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Err, or was that in reference to your TV? haha |
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| 18:18.43 | kd3 | for tv service |
| 18:18.52 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm a bit slow |
| 18:20.12 | kd3 | geez... wtf with the stock market. been up 180, down 250, now it's up 75 again |
| 18:20.44 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:20.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Still sub-10k though |
| 18:25.30 | Dashkal | damn, can't find him on wowhead. The cat I'm talking about is a pet of one of the earthen in storm peaks |
| 18:25.39 | Thunder_Child | anyone know if evga's b stock has a different part number? |
| 18:28.57 | Atriace | so... weird story, but true... |
| 18:29.11 | Atriace | I just spent 2 hours trying to make this stupid script work... |
| 18:29.25 | Atriace | only to find out, I wasn't editing my document, but another... |
| 18:29.30 | Redguard | lol |
| 18:29.31 | Atriace | which is why no changes were happening. |
| 18:29.35 | Redguard | darwin award goes to.. |
| 18:29.38 | Dashkal | ouch |
| 18:29.40 | Dashkal | been there |
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| 18:31.22 | Dashkal | Bibi: <3 Raid calculator |
| 18:33.56 | jaxdahl2 | http://elitistjerks.com/f15/t33775-raidcomp_online_raid_calculator/ |
| 18:34.15 | ScytheBlade1 | jaxdahl2: yeah, linked it last night... it's win |
| 18:34.43 | jaxdahl2 | well, technically there's already an addon that does something similar, http://elitistjerks.com/f32/t33273-inthebuff_wotlk_raid_buff_checklist/ |
| 18:41.12 | jaxdahl2 | i'm sad that 2008 TC3 didn't impact the earth (atmosphere) over a populated area |
| 18:43.24 | Dashkal | O.o? |
| 18:43.39 | Dashkal | Please say it's because we didn't get good photos and not cause you wanted carnage.. |
| 18:44.22 | jaxdahl2 | photos. |
| 18:44.32 | Dashkal | ok good, cause as phrased that sounded odd :p |
| 18:44.55 | jaxdahl2 | there are none known yet, and may not be |
| 18:46.04 | jaxdahl2 | i think it's really amazing we were able to spot a 3 meter object from over i think 2 million km away |
| 18:46.54 | Fisker- | why so <3 Dashkal ? |
| 18:47.13 | Dashkal | Fisker-: http://raidcomp.mmo-champion.com/ |
| 18:47.28 | Dashkal | I likes it. Makes life much simpler |
| 18:48.33 | Dashkal | It also makes me very glad that 10 mans won't be tuned around having all of them |
| 18:48.35 | Fisker- | wtshit |
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| 18:48.42 | Fisker- | Holy Paladin = Imp. Devotion Aura |
| 18:48.43 | Fisker- | rofl |
| 18:49.04 | Dashkal | It's not perfect. Go comment in the ej thread (linked above) |
| 18:49.11 | Fisker- | never |
| 18:49.20 | Fisker- | What does the addon have to do about the site btw |
| 18:49.21 | Fisker- | oh |
| 18:49.23 | Fisker- | the other thread |
| 18:49.37 | Fisker- | I guess you could call it a little bit TOO perfect |
| 18:49.40 | Dashkal | The author may also be reading the mmo-champion thread it was announced in, no idea. |
| 18:49.46 | Fisker- | because holy paladins = garbage so they might as well go prot lolol |
| 18:49.49 | Dashkal | imd devotion should be a maybe, not a yes |
| 18:50.57 | Lunessa | would it be wrong of me to say I want (digital) carnage? |
| 18:51.14 | Dashkal | Digital carnage is always fun :p |
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| 18:51.51 | Dashkal | Is it bad that when I'm destroying the last city in spore after destroying the turrets I start frying individual people with my point laser? |
| 18:52.14 | Lunessa | I played my shaman on Live last night for a heroic. All I can say is... WotLK changes to the class/spec are awesome in comparison. Anyone who says differently isn't paying attention. |
| 18:52.30 | Dashkal | What spec? |
| 18:52.41 | Lunessa | Enhancement, sorry. |
| 18:53.15 | Dashkal | *ponders* I forget if we have an enh or not. I know we have an elemental, but the enhancement is the guys second alt and doesn't get much love. Maybe he'll be encouraged |
| 18:53.30 | Dashkal | I'd much rather the shaman totem to my horn of winter... |
| 18:53.59 | Dashkal | It was you who convinced me of that, actually |
| 18:54.05 | Lunessa | :D |
| 18:54.09 | NeoTron | totem = 5 minute, statick, horn = 2m but position independant |
| 18:54.29 | Lunessa | And I get a glyph which adds +crit to it. |
| 18:54.53 | NeoTron | I can add a glyph... that lowest the cost by 10 runic power |
| 18:54.56 | NeoTron | whee. |
| 18:55.39 | Lunessa | Str of Earth and Windfury Totem = Meleegasm. |
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| 18:55.53 | Dashkal | NeoTron: good point. my horn will prolly be a little better in high mobility situations |
| 18:56.02 | Dashkal | 10rp is cheap to a DPS blood |
| 18:56.11 | NeoTron | I think the equivalent of WF totem for DK's is pretty bogus |
| 18:56.31 | NeoTron | 20% haste for myself for 5 points, completely negated by a WF totem |
| 18:56.46 | NeoTron | spend another point and I gain 5% haste myself so basically 6 points for 5% haste |
| 18:56.59 | Dashkal | I wouldn't take that talent in a 25, but I'd take it for 10s |
| 18:57.04 | Lunessa | How many fights will you need to move more than 30 yards? |
| 18:57.10 | Dashkal | I'm not too fond of Frost/DPS, though |
| 18:57.11 | NeoTron | it'd be like flurry and slice and dice not stacking with WF totem |
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| 18:57.18 | Dashkal | Lunessa: Thaddius |
| 18:57.30 | Lunessa | And in a 25 man raid, you might have two shaman... for two over-lapping fields. |
| 18:57.39 | Fisker- | i'm sick Dashkal :( |
| 18:57.48 | Lunessa | I haven't gotten to fight him yet. Just the 4 Horsemen. :( |
| 18:58.11 | Dashkal | I have no idea how that fight actually goes down, only read the strats. Just came to mind as a very high mobility fight |
| 18:58.25 | Dashkal | That's one of those places where unholy aura will be worth a ton |
| 18:58.49 | NeoTron | it's interesting to note that unholy aura is the aura of choice for frost dps |
| 18:58.53 | Lunessa | I read strats, but most fights still require me to see them once or twice for things to make sense. |
| 18:58.59 | NeoTron | the amount of attacks you spew out is pretty impressive |
| 18:59.00 | Dashkal | NeoTron: aura or presence? |
| 18:59.06 | NeoTron | sorry, prescence |
| 18:59.11 | NeoTron | but spelled correctly |
| 18:59.13 | Dashkal | I'm in it as blood all the time now as well |
| 18:59.21 | Dashkal | the extra GCDs are just too important |
| 18:59.30 | NeoTron | for unholy and blood, blood is best but for frost unholy is better |
| 18:59.32 | Dashkal | especially given how often I death coil |
| 18:59.44 | Dashkal | My DPS is about 150 higher in unholy |
| 18:59.51 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 18:59.59 | Dashkal | It's pretty much all because of death coil |
| 19:00.06 | NeoTron | that surprises me, I swear my testing showed blood to be better for.. blood |
| 19:00.08 | jaxdahl2 | you don't move very far on thaddius |
| 19:00.29 | Dashkal | Might just be the rotation I'm using |
| 19:00.31 | NeoTron | but I can see wasting runic power |
| 19:00.43 | NeoTron | esp with sudden doom |
| 19:00.47 | Dashkal | I try hard to keep my RP bar down. It's almost always capped |
| 19:00.54 | NeoTron | need an addon that warns me if my runic power is 90% full :P |
| 19:00.59 | Dashkal | (in blood, in unholy I can keep it down) |
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| 19:01.20 | jaxdahl2 | pretty much the only fight i use blood presence on is loatheb |
| 19:01.27 | Dashkal | I'm also blood/unholy rather than the blood/frost build you work with |
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| 19:02.22 | NeoTron | I've tried a blood/unholy build that currentyl look pretty good |
| 19:02.34 | NeoTron | basically unholy for master of ghouls and gargoyle |
| 19:02.59 | Dashkal | It's a good build, but I find it too much of a pain holding that rotation (I don't like having to juggle my dots on the extended duration with annihilation) |
| 19:04.17 | NeoTron | something like this, but not exactly http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=jfVMVh0IsroxzhZZfMhI0dkx0o |
| 19:04.35 | NeoTron | don't HAVE to have extended dot duration |
| 19:05.17 | NeoTron | it's sad that gargoyle seems to be better dps overall than DRW although I admit I haven't calculated the cost of lsot deathcoils into the gargoyle use |
| 19:06.08 | Dashkal | This is mine: http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=jfVMVh0IsfoxzAoZfMh0xc I don't like having epidemic there but dunno what do with them. the two points spare are usually in OAPH |
| 19:07.48 | NeoTron | necrosis and BCB really aren't worth a whole lot today... although not quite sure where else to put that |
| 19:07.53 | Dashkal | Exactly |
| 19:08.04 | Dashkal | I've considered blood aura but recount says the healing is nearly trivial |
| 19:08.24 | NeoTron | toughness is one option |
| 19:08.33 | Dewin | There's something funny about death knights having a rose in their talent tree. >.> |
| 19:08.42 | NeoTron | and frankly benig selfish, on a pale horse |
| 19:08.51 | NeoTron | sacrifice a few percent dps and get 20% mount speed |
| 19:08.53 | Dashkal | When I'm not raiding, it's pale horse hands down |
| 19:09.27 | Lunessa | Pale Horse = win |
| 19:09.29 | Dashkal | That bias may just be because there are no working +mount speed items atm |
| 19:09.32 | NeoTron | I should do a test of 1 pt in bcb |
| 19:09.55 | NeoTron | and that 10% extra on an epic flyer is a hgue differencer |
| 19:10.10 | Dashkal | I could also use ravenous dead. I rarely bring out the ghoul, but the 2% strength may be better than the longer dots on death strike rotations |
| 19:10.16 | smcn | i need a recommendation for a tradeskill mod, that works with beta, specifically that lets you queue up items to create and will also queue up items you can make that are required for that item (i.e., queue up Widget which requires Cog x 2, it will queue up Cog x 2 as well) |
| 19:10.24 | NeoTron | 3% more strength |
| 19:10.36 | Dashkal | 2. I only have two points to spare in that tier |
| 19:10.42 | NeoTron | 3 |
| 19:10.45 | Dashkal | unless I only put one into pale horse |
| 19:10.58 | NeoTron | unless you reduce BCB/necrosis |
| 19:11.06 | NeoTron | which are trivial increases to DPS |
| 19:11.08 | Dashkal | I take virulence because my death coil is such a large percentage of my overall dps |
| 19:11.29 | NeoTron | virulence should become unnecessary as gearing up occurs. |
| 19:11.37 | NeoTron | just need a bit more hit than needed for melee |
| 19:11.48 | NeoTron | if you have SP/moonkin and draenei aura that is |
| 19:11.50 | Dashkal | *nods* true, once I get high enough that misses become rare I'll take points from that and probably put them into the ghoul |
| 19:12.12 | Dashkal | right now I need it, though. But then I'm in half-greens in my DPS gear |
| 19:12.20 | NeoTron | you should still consider picking up master of ghouls and gargoyle to test it out |
| 19:12.34 | NeoTron | unless you don't want to be a pet class that is |
| 19:12.38 | Dashkal | It's an idea. I kind of like the pet and I don't much like dancing rune weapon |
| 19:12.45 | Dashkal | but that costs me my expertise |
| 19:12.47 | Dashkal | and that HURTS |
| 19:12.49 | NeoTron | the main flaw of such a build is that the pet dies so quickly now |
| 19:13.08 | NeoTron | true |
| 19:13.16 | NeoTron | what race? |
| 19:13.25 | Dashkal | Not as much (Oh thank you whatever designer did the 1s on miss change) |
| 19:13.27 | Dashkal | Human |
| 19:13.51 | NeoTron | so you get that expertise from racials |
| 19:14.05 | NeoTron | it seems expertise, especially with expertise gems, won't be as much of an issue |
| 19:14.09 | Dashkal | wowwiki is dead. humans get expertise on swords and what again? |
| 19:14.18 | NeoTron | hit rating will always be better though |
| 19:14.19 | NeoTron | mace |
| 19:14.22 | Dashkal | sweet |
| 19:14.26 | Dashkal | I'm using the AD mace right now |
| 19:14.47 | Dashkal | AC* I still think of them as the argent dawn.. |
| 19:15.03 | NeoTron | I pretty much stopped playing on beta |
| 19:15.09 | NeoTron | got to 80 on my DK |
| 19:15.16 | NeoTron | but not about to grind rep :P |
| 19:16.24 | ZorbaBeta | anyone know if item/monster/quest IDs are consistent across locales? |
| 19:16.37 | Dewin | I would assume so |
| 19:16.51 | ZorbaBeta | I would assume so also, but I'd rather not assume :) |
| 19:16.57 | Dewin | Since likely the ID is serverside and maps into whatever clientside data there is that has the translations. |
| 19:17.28 | Dewin | there's probably a tablesomewhere that's like quest_translates[123952] = "X Marks... Your Doom!" |
| 19:17.37 | Dashkal | NeoTron: I'm more or less done myself. But the rep grinding I did was trivial (It happens naturally as you do heroics) |
| 19:17.39 | Dewin | and the server goes "you have accepted quest 123952" |
| 19:17.49 | Fisker- | created an rogue named AnalSuprise, made a gm ticket asking if it would be alowed since it had the word anal in it, and suprise was taken,gm told me it wasent apropiate so he offered me an namechange, we chatted for a bit and i got the name grimmreaper, but now i have receaved 2 warnings, for an char that ahs already been deleating, i get the first warning, but whats up whit the second one? :S |
| 19:17.52 | Dashkal | Unfortunately ST stopped doing many heroics. Always in anxx now |
| 19:18.01 | Fisker- | Seems to me he deserved both warnings |
| 19:18.01 | Dashkal | and I refuse to pug. Abjectly refuse, too many bad runs |
| 19:18.03 | Fisker- | O_o |
| 19:18.48 | Dewin | ZorbaBeta: I'd be 99% sure that IDs are locale-independant |
| 19:19.58 | ZorbaBeta | yeah, they probably are. Fingers crossed. |
| 19:20.43 | NeoTron | Dashkal: yeah... but I haven't really done much heroics. a few on the premade is all |
| 19:20.47 | NeoTron | don't want to "burn out" on beta |
| 19:21.05 | Dewin | Hmm... do the EU servers have different servers for different languages or do they share a server? |
| 19:21.08 | Dashkal | Agreed. For that reason I prefer to do ones I haven't done. |
| 19:21.24 | Dewin | If the latter, I'd think it 100% :) |
| 19:21.28 | NeoTron | I've had almost exclusive good luck pugging on beta |
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| 19:21.45 | Dashkal | And that's why I'm not playing much. Unfortunately since I'm burnt out on live that leaves me with little to do |
| 19:22.09 | NeoTron | I've been watching some TV |
| 19:22.44 | Dewin | If I CreateFrame("Button/Checkbutton/whatever"), do I need to do anything special to get 'default' textures/fontstrings on it? |
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| 19:29.24 | Lunessa | Well, now that I have internet access, I'll be around a bit more. |
| 19:29.34 | Thunder_Child | what happened to cair? |
| 19:29.43 | Lunessa | Of course, I'm moving this month too. |
| 19:30.32 | Thunder_Child | Tekkub, nothing is wrong with me, 3 miles is healthy |
| 19:30.35 | kneeki | Dewin: Special? no |
| 19:30.45 | Tekkub | so you say |
| 19:31.03 | Thunder_Child | pfft, you know i am correct |
| 19:31.09 | Thunder_Child | bum |
| 19:31.11 | Tekkub | no I don't |
| 19:31.39 | Tekkub | and I'm already gonna be getting more walking in at BC than I've had in the last month :P |
| 19:31.58 | Thunder_Child | ~epic fail Tekkub |
| 19:31.59 | purl | Tekkub, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you Tekkub, you are that epic failure. |
| 19:33.40 | Thunder_Child | well someone needs to go change the total dinner guests from 51 to 54 now... |
| 19:34.48 | kd3 | whee, loremaster of northrend |
| 19:35.28 | Tekkub | yea the reservation's already made, how's that gonna work :P |
| 19:35.49 | Thunder_Child | i dunno, the reservation was made with ~40 people, now it's over 50 |
| 19:36.09 | Thunder_Child | and cair was the one that changed it from 40 to 50 so i am assuming she knows what she is doing |
| 19:36.40 | Thunder_Child | and thats not counting the people that are stealth joining for obvious reasons |
| 19:39.08 | Lunessa | Stealth-joining? Like "Hey, she's cute, I'll take her to the geek dinner and win her over with my cool friends!" ? |
| 19:39.50 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 19:40.17 | Tem | Dashkal: ST? |
| 19:40.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: probably more like "hey, i brought along my friend, that's okay, right?" |
| 19:40.32 | Thunder_Child | thats not stealth |
| 19:40.40 | Lunessa | Or "I didn't sign up 'cause I post in blue, but I'm going anyway." |
| 19:41.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: maybe, but you could just kick out someone like Thunder_Child for them anyway :p |
| 19:41.29 | Atriace | Anyone know how to inset the text for a ScrollingMessageFrame? My text is running up the borders. |
| 19:41.36 | Lunessa | Hell, if I was to go, I'm sure I'd be ejected at the first opportunity. |
| 19:42.02 | NightHawkTheSane | only after me, i'm sure (were i to go, which i'm beginning to regret not..) |
| 19:45.35 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane, there is always the next one |
| 19:45.41 | Thunder_Child | to get thrown out of |
| 19:46.41 | NightHawkTheSane | indeed. |
| 19:47.49 | Syzgyn | Anyone happen to know where all the default slash commands are registered? |
| 19:48.16 | Dashkal | Tem: Secure Templars. Last few nights I've attempted to get a heroic everybody was doing naxx or wasn't interested |
| 19:48.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Syzgyn: off the top of my head, ChatFrame.lua? |
| 19:48.58 | Lunessa | I can do a heroic later tonight (after 11 central) |
| 19:49.48 | Dashkal | 9pm PST? If we can get started not long after I'm certainly game. Assuming nothing RL comes up I'll be on then |
| 19:49.48 | Syzgyn | NightHawkTheSane: Aha, it was indeed. thanks. |
| 19:50.24 | Dashkal | I'm not terribly concerned at this point. Wasn't so much a whine as an explanation as to why I don't play much. There isn't much else for a non-PvPer to do at my point |
| 19:50.26 | Lunessa | Yeah, I will get home about 7 PST, then have something to do for a couple of hours, so about 9ish. |
| 19:50.55 | Dashkal | But I'd love to do HoS or one of the Coldarra ones. I haven't seen those yet |
| 19:51.51 | Dashkal | Or either of the Zul'Drak ones for that matter |
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| 19:53.31 | Lunessa | I'm down for any of it. |
| 19:55.11 | Dashkal | I have no idea what drops what. I just want to see new content :D |
| 19:56.17 | Lunessa | I'll be happy to kill things and take their lunch monies. |
| 19:57.31 | Dashkal | I'd kind of like to do the Nexus, actually. She got a really really raw deal there. |
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| 19:58.01 | Dashkal | I think that questline more than most of the other stuff I've read gave me a real dislike for Malygos. |
| 19:58.59 | Lunessa | Sandragosa, has something happened to you? |
| 19:59.35 | Esamynn | BlizzCon! |
| 19:59.40 | Esamynn | BlizzCon! |
| 19:59.42 | Esamynn | 8) |
| 19:59.52 | zenzelezz | so when does Blizzcon start? |
| 19:59.55 | Esamynn | sorry, I'm sitting in the airport waiting for my flight, I'm excited |
| 19:59.57 | Esamynn | Friday |
| 20:00.01 | Dashkal | Had he killed the red who was giving the quests (I can rarely remember dragon names) I would have understood it. It would have fit. What he did to her was... significantly evil |
| 20:00.17 | Lunessa | Esamynn: Woot. Bring me a present. |
| 20:00.24 | cbreak | if you have a spare pet code, I could use one |
| 20:00.42 | Dashkal | Most of what he's been doing I can chalk down to trying to do what he thinks is best, but forcibly taking her as a consort is just plain outright malice. |
| 20:00.43 | Esamynn | ~laugh cbreak |
| 20:00.44 | purl | ACTION laughs hysterically at cbreak...ow! laughing so hard, it can't breathe... gasp...gasp...gasp.... ..... ... |
| 20:00.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Dashkal: Keristrasza? |
| 20:00.53 | Esamynn | ~botsnack |
| 20:00.54 | purl | thanks, Esamynn |
| 20:00.55 | Dashkal | That's her |
| 20:02.02 | zenzelezz | I wonder if we'll ever get to see/fight Deathwing in-game |
| 20:02.29 | Dashkal | He got hinted strongly at in burning crusade. I'd expect so |
| 20:03.28 | Dashkal | So yeah. I didn't really give a damn about Gruul or Mag. Malygos I'm looking forward to |
| 20:03.33 | NightHawkTheSane | zenzelezz: next expansion? ;) |
| 20:04.05 | NeoTron | Dashkal: bah, he was lonely |
| 20:04.09 | NeoTron | give an old man a break |
| 20:04.12 | zenzelezz | NightHawkTheSane: hopefully, but you never know. Sooner or later we'll "have" to see the Emerald Dream too |
| 20:04.40 | NeoTron | I mean really, we did just kill his consort with the help of said blue dragon |
| 20:04.41 | NightHawkTheSane | zenzelezz: arguably both of those could be put in the same expac. :P |
| 20:04.43 | NeoTron | s/blue/red/ |
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| 20:05.12 | Dashkal | NeoTron: Yes, and killing her in revenge would be appropriate. What he did comes down to rape. |
| 20:05.21 | Lunessa | I rather expect Emerald Dream with be a Sunwell-style patch. |
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| 20:05.46 | NeoTron | they are dragons. I'm sure few things are worse than murdering one of their kind |
| 20:05.47 | Dashkal | And the inconsistency with death and resurrection is getting on my nerves... |
| 20:05.49 | NightHawkTheSane | i don't know, they could arguably pull it off as a full on expansion. |
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| 20:06.05 | NeoTron | Dashkal: artistic freedom |
| 20:06.06 | Dashkal | Resurrection exists in lore.. happens all the farking time... |
| 20:06.40 | Atriace | Alright, I'm befuddled. Apparently ")" cannot exist in this script, but it's also requiring that it be there syntactically. Can anyone tell me what's wrong here? http://wowuidev.pastey.net/97773 |
| 20:07.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Atriace: forgot the end for the function |
| 20:07.13 | Atriace | >_< |
| 20:07.21 | Atriace | NOOOooooooo ok |
| 20:10.01 | Dashkal | I'd still like to know what Malygos thinks mortals are going to ruin that makes it worth genocide to stop... |
| 20:10.29 | NeoTron | I still think making us fight (kill?) aspects is a horrible design choice |
| 20:10.40 | NeoTron | does malygos actually die or is he just defeated but not killed? |
| 20:10.43 | Dashkal | Near as I can tell he's dead for real. |
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| 20:11.17 | NeoTron | I really don't like that decision. killing the aspect of magic seems.. unbalancing |
| 20:11.38 | zenzelezz | all part of the grand scheme |
| 20:11.51 | zenzelezz | I'd dearly like to fight Sargeras one day, if he ever finds a way back |
| 20:11.52 | Dashkal | I'm half expecting all the aspects to die eventually. There are hints that Nozdormu is now an enemy, and I don't hold much hope for Ysera either. |
| 20:12.52 | NeoTron | moving to a world without aspects, undoing the creation as such |
| 20:12.57 | NeoTron | don't like it |
| 20:12.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Dashkal: that still leaves alexstrasza... although, i suppose after murdering every other aspect.. ;) |
| 20:13.14 | NeoTron | from a lore point of view, I didn't even liek killing red dragonwhelps in Redridge |
| 20:13.22 | Dashkal | The thing that bugs me most about the blues is there's no reasoning behind this. Malygos is a being of pure logic. He simply wouldn't do this without good reason. If they cop out and it was Yogg-Sauron that fucked him up I'll be very disappointed. |
| 20:13.31 | NeoTron | like.. wtf are we killing the one dragonflight most likely to stand on our side? |
| 20:13.32 | Dashkal | NeoTron: Red? I thought those were blacks... |
| 20:13.52 | Dashkal | Wetlands had reds |
| 20:13.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Redridge i think were black, wetlands was red |
| 20:14.39 | Cidan | oh yeah |
| 20:14.43 | Cidan | I forgot about Blizzcon |
| 20:14.46 | Cidan | huh. |
| 20:14.52 | NeoTron | Dashkal: wetlands is what I meant |
| 20:15.16 | Dashkal | NeoTron: those reds are under very specific orders to keep _everybody_ away from Grim Batol. They had reason to be aggressive. |
| 20:15.58 | NeoTron | really killing anything but black and with LK, blue dragons seems wrong |
| 20:16.02 | NeoTron | regardless the reason :P |
| 20:17.10 | Dashkal | Um... you spend much of your wow carreer slaughtering anybody inconvient to you... |
| 20:17.10 | Josh_Borke | i can't keep up with real life, no way i'll be able to keep up with wow lore too :-/ |
| 20:17.13 | NeoTron | and even in original we were killing blue dragons out of greed for magical artifacts |
| 20:17.20 | jaxdahl2 | i wonder who will lead the blue dragonflight, and will they be able to get Aspect powers? |
| 20:17.31 | jaxdahl2 | Kalecgos sounds like one of the short list candidates |
| 20:18.06 | Dashkal | And I do mean slaughter. The defias should have been put to trial, not slaughtered indiscriminantly for the simple crime of being employed as a miner... |
| 20:18.16 | NeoTron | bah |
| 20:18.31 | NeoTron | I don't care about mere mortals |
| 20:18.39 | Dashkal | I don't much care about dragons :p |
| 20:18.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Dashkal: well, as we clearly learned.. king wrynn's a jerk. |
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| 20:18.56 | zenzelezz | who was that woman by the blue dragonkin in Winterspring again? |
| 20:19.09 | Dashkal | Wrynn came back to give blizzard a reason to put us back at war. |
| 20:19.24 | Dashkal | That twit would see stormwind in ruins if it gave him a clear shot at Thrall. |
| 20:20.05 | jaxdahl2 | Dashkal, i'm pretty sure it was established malygos went slighty crazy after confronting neltharion |
| 20:20.25 | Dashkal | jaxdahl2: Slightly? The dragon is now genocidal. |
| 20:20.26 | NightHawkTheSane | on an unrelated note, where's a good place to farm runecloth? >.> |
| 20:20.32 | Dashkal | NightHawkTheSane: strat |
| 20:21.40 | NeoTron | he went crazy and stayed so for 10000 years or so |
| 20:21.49 | Dashkal | Even with him gone insane, why the hell would most of the flight go along with him? |
| 20:21.53 | NeoTron | now he's sane again and want to clean up the mess left behind after 10000 years of being insane |
| 20:22.07 | Cidan | Does anyone know if Shirik is gone to Blizzconn? |
| 20:22.08 | zenzelezz | people have always followed crazy leaders |
| 20:22.14 | Dashkal | There isn't much sane about deciding that it's better to extinct (his words) all the mortals |
| 20:22.14 | zenzelezz | just look seventy years back |
| 20:22.35 | Dashkal | And be willing to go to war with pretty much everybody to do it |
| 20:22.39 | NeoTron | why not? think of the greater good for the worl |
| 20:22.46 | Dashkal | What world? |
| 20:22.52 | NeoTron | what good does the humans and other bipeds bring except war and disaster? |
| 20:22.55 | Dashkal | Dude is splitting it at the seams. |
| 20:23.01 | Dashkal | It'll look like outland when he's done |
| 20:24.23 | Cidan | Shirik|Ecole: Hey, hey you. |
| 20:25.53 | NeoTron | speaking of whelps, they seem to be listed for 3.5-5k on my AH now |
| 20:25.57 | NeoTron | not sure if they are selling but alas |
| 20:26.37 | kneeki | Is there a function to find the game version? |
| 20:26.46 | kneeki | dump(GameVersion()) type of thing |
| 20:26.56 | Cidan | wowwiki |
| 20:26.57 | Cidan | use it |
| 20:26.58 | Cidan | love it |
| 20:27.00 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 20:27.15 | nevcairiel | kneeki: GetBuildInfo() |
| 20:27.24 | Atriace | Got a weird one: OnMouseWheel event is returning an argument that is a table of userdata rather than a variable of 1 or -1. Does anyone know why or how I can get around this? |
| 20:27.30 | kneeki | nevcairiel: thanks =) |
| 20:28.00 | nevcairiel | Atriace: frame handlers always return the frame itself as first argument |
| 20:28.24 | Atriace | -_- |
| 20:29.06 | Atriace | lol, Thanks Nev |
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| 20:32.26 | NeoTron | is lua variable sizes documented somewhere? (i.e size overhead for arrays, hashes etc) |
| 20:32.32 | NeoTron | memory use that is |
| 20:36.27 | Redguard | is there a more efficient way than to use getglobal to concat a variable and string |
| 20:36.39 | Redguard | such as getglobal("ActionButton" .. num) |
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| 20:37.44 | Atriace | Out of curiosity, how would you pull the real name of a userdata object? tostring() won't do it, and neither does obj:GetName(). Anyone know? |
| 20:38.01 | NeoTron | BCB bug: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/18/10972017935-bug-bloodcaked-blade-10s-cd.html |
| 20:39.49 | Atriace | Might you know, nevcairiel? |
| 20:40.43 | NightHawkTheSane | if the object has a name, obj:GetName() should return it, if that's returning nil, it's probably an anonymous object.. |
| 20:41.58 | Dashkal | NeoTron: yeah I saw that. Thought I was getting a buff and then realized it doesn't seriously affect 2h |
| 20:45.50 | Atriace | Oh I see what I was doing. I was trying to convert the table value to GetName rather than fetching GetName on the table itself. |
| 20:45.58 | Atriace | Yeah, obj:GetName() works |
| 20:45.59 | NeoTron | I like this comment: "Gargoyle does do nice burst damage, but that's at the expense of Unholy Blight usually, which in turn hurts your Scourge Strikes. But we are messing with Unholy now to deflate its damage a little." |
| 20:46.12 | NeoTron | but it's a 21 pt talent... :P |
| 20:46.34 | NeoTron | Dashkal: it affects 2h pretty drastically. you might have seen 18-20% proc rate on a 2h at most |
| 20:46.54 | Dashkal | NeoTron: an internal cooldown affects DW more than 2h. More potential procs lost |
| 20:47.07 | NeoTron | 10s cooldown and it'd take you on average ~3.3 hits to get the next proc which could mean a proc every 20s if you're unluck |
| 20:47.14 | NeoTron | not saying that isn't true |
| 20:47.20 | NeoTron | but it does affect 2h pretty drastically |
| 20:47.30 | Lunessa | Hey Sixen, did you know you're named in a quest reward? |
| 20:47.39 | Sixen | Yar, =) |
| 20:47.45 | Sixen | If you get my hat, don't DE it! |
| 20:47.52 | NightHawkTheSane | yarr, destroy it! |
| 20:47.58 | Lunessa | Hah... I took Cobalt's piece. |
| 20:48.08 | NightHawkTheSane | i mean.. er.. keep it and treasure it forever |
| 20:48.37 | Dashkal | That quest was total win |
| 20:48.54 | Lunessa | I was amused to discover it, and didn't know if you'd seen it or not. |
| 20:49.20 | Lunessa | I'd love to have something in-game that references me, but there doesn't seem to be any reason to add me. ;) |
| 20:50.53 | zenzelezz | Anarchy Online added a bunch of purely social armor sets in a patch, all named after various old guilds |
| 20:51.40 | Lunessa | I suppose, if I really want that sort of acknowledgement, I should do something worthy of it. :P |
| 20:52.06 | NightHawkTheSane | like give sexual favors to the item designers. *nod* |
| 20:52.20 | Lunessa | Most of them have the wrong plumbing. |
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| 20:52.41 | zenzelezz | I feel sorry for Eyonix, hidden away in Netherstorm in his semi-transparent state |
| 20:53.16 | zenzelezz | sometimes no recognition is better |
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| 20:55.18 | Lunessa | Heh. Indeed. I would just be stupidly happy to see "Unkle's Headknocker" or "Lunessa's Loom" or some silly thing like that. And that might not be a good thing. |
| 20:55.45 | Sixen | Well, thanks Luney, =) |
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| 20:56.41 | Lunessa | I was happy to see you got a nice little plug, so I thought I'd mention it.:) |
| 20:57.03 | Lunessa | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/10/08/funny-pictures-know-what-that-was-but-youre-gonna-need-a-new-one/ |
| 20:59.38 | Sixen | <3 |
| 21:05.05 | NightHawkTheSane | heh, http://failblog.org/2008/10/08/travel-fail/ |
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| 21:08.35 | jaxdahl2 | NeoTron, http://blue.mmo-champion.com/18/10972017935-bug-bloodcaked-blade-10s-cd.html |
| 21:10.11 | Atriace | lua> |
| 21:10.24 | Atriace | lua> print("test") |
| 21:10.25 | lua_bot | Atriace: test |
| 21:10.29 | batrick | anyone know if you can set a button to cast a buff on some unitid and then a different buff on right click for another unitid? |
| 21:16.38 | cbreak | yes, possible. |
| 21:16.46 | cbreak | you can even make a macro to that effect |
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| 21:17.39 | cbreak | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:18.25 | cbreak | or for different buffs /cast [btn:2,target=unitrightlick] rightspell; [target=unitleftclick] leftspell |
| 21:18.40 | batrick | http://flickr.com/photos/26810211@N06/2921978491/ |
| 21:18.53 | batrick | yes but I dont' want a macro, i want to set attributes |
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| 21:18.56 | batrick | and I can't seem to get it to work |
| 21:19.10 | Lunessa | it should be doable in the handlers. |
| 21:19.26 | Lunessa | <--- Not an expert, but I know it can be done. |
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| 21:19.49 | cbreak | do you consider the macrotext attribute viable? :) |
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| 21:20.02 | kolie | join #waruidev |
| 21:20.05 | kolie | oops |
| 21:20.11 | cbreak | traitor... |
| 21:20.18 | cbreak | do they use lua driven UI too? |
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| 21:20.22 | End | yes |
| 21:20.28 | cbreak | interesting. :) |
| 21:20.40 | batrick | cbreak: i'd rather not |
| 21:20.59 | End | I'm not sure what all you can do with it though :P |
| 21:21.05 | End | I glanced briefly at it |
| 21:21.14 | cbreak | I didn't use the state api yet batrick, but I think it is possible. |
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| 21:21.43 | jaxdahl2 | hrm |
| 21:21.47 | jaxdahl2 | what is "Echoes of Doom" ? |
| 21:22.20 | Esine | 3.0.2 |
| 21:22.20 | cbreak | Sounds like something from Ventrilo during a raid. |
| 21:22.26 | jaxdahl2 | wasn't sure if that was the content patch _after_ wotlk |
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| 21:23.49 | jaxdahl2 | think they'll push it on tuesday? |
| 21:24.26 | Esine | of course |
| 21:24.28 | Esine | they said it themselves |
| 21:24.39 | Esine | arena s4 will end then |
| 21:24.44 | Esine | and they also said the next patch will be when s4 ends |
| 21:25.19 | jaxdahl2 | by 'on tuesday', i mean this coming tuesday |
| 21:25.45 | Esine | 14th/15th |
| 21:25.45 | Esine | yes |
| 21:25.51 | cbreak | it means next wednesday morning if you're on EU servers |
| 21:25.55 | Esine | right |
| 21:27.07 | jaxdahl2 | you have a source on that? |
| 21:27.30 | Esine | wow forums, blue posts |
| 21:27.38 | cbreak | I read it in #wowuidev a few days ago |
| 21:27.52 | ScytheBlade1 | They said "most likely" |
| 21:27.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Not "will" |
| 21:28.02 | jaxdahl2 | i do know s4 is ending oct 14 |
| 21:28.09 | jaxdahl2 | but that doesn't mean 3.0.2 is coming then too |
| 21:28.10 | ScytheBlade1 | re: date correlation of patch release date vs. s4 ending |
| 21:29.08 | End | I remember they said s4 was going to end after 3.0.2, and then they changed their mind and said it wouldn't be after, and oh yeah, s4 is ending on oct 14 |
| 21:29.26 | End | so I read that as the earlist we'll have 3.0.2 is oct 14 |
| 21:29.40 | ScytheBlade1 | As it stands, S4 is ending on Oct 14th, with S5 not starting. 3.0.2 *may* be released on the same day. |
| 21:30.13 | End | I think they intend to release in on the fourteenth |
| 21:30.25 | ScytheBlade1 | That's their goal |
| 21:30.30 | ScytheBlade1 | But I'm betting it won't be ready |
| 21:30.38 | End | they can always push it back |
| 21:30.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Although I'm pretty sure they're putting in the hours to make it happen |
| 21:30.47 | End | yeah |
| 21:30.52 | jaxdahl2 | i just don't know if Inscription is ready yet |
| 21:30.56 | End | ghostscrawler mentioned 14 hour days :P |
| 21:31.05 | jaxdahl2 | pretty sure they're working 20/7 |
| 21:31.08 | End | I dunno how serious she was, but I find that believable |
| 21:31.12 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm sure that others are seeing much more than just 14 hour days |
| 21:31.14 | ZorbaBeta | are they releasing inscription with 3.0.2? I assumed inscription would be coming out with Wrath |
| 21:31.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes they are |
| 21:31.20 | jaxdahl2 | yes ZorbaBeta. |
| 21:31.25 | jaxdahl2 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9236465192&sid=1 |
| 21:31.31 | Duman | inscriptions will be in 3.0.2 |
| 21:31.37 | cbreak | 20% of that time is spent finding new and creative ways to nerf mages. |
| 21:31.42 | Fisker- | i'm shitting 20/7 atleast |
| 21:31.43 | Fisker- | >:E |
| 21:31.46 | ZorbaBeta | funky |
| 21:31.52 | jaxdahl2 | afaik, only TBC account holders can train inscription |
| 21:32.21 | jaxdahl2 | yes, that's what the last paragraph seems to say |
| 21:32.28 | Esine | are there many players who don't have tbc? |
| 21:32.32 | jaxdahl2 | "Regarding Inscription, please note that all Burning Crusade players will be able to select Inscription as one of their two professions and level up to a skill level of 375 with it." |
| 21:32.33 | Esine | oh, alts? |
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| 21:32.34 | End | a few |
| 21:32.38 | Esine | on separate accounts |
| 21:32.52 | End | as well as actual new players, although there probably aren't many of those |
| 21:32.55 | nevcairiel | why would i have a non-tbc alt o.O |
| 21:32.58 | jaxdahl2 | twink accounts |
| 21:33.14 | End | the RAF program has probably done wonders :P |
| 21:33.18 | End | for alt accounts |
| 21:33.47 | Atriace | ~seen Iriel |
| 21:33.49 | purl | iriel <n=Iriel@adsl-71-158-244-138.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 14h 9m 5s ago, saying: 'If it wasn't late and i wasn't prepping for blizzcon then I'd test it... can you reproduce it with some trivial test AddOns and post it?'. |
| 21:33.49 | cbreak | people who don't even level past 60 don't need inscriptions |
| 21:34.50 | jaxdahl2 | nevcairiel, i just noticed your nickname ends with iriel.. coincidence, or is there a conspiracy afoot? |
| 21:35.03 | End | definitely a conspiracy |
| 21:35.03 | nevcairiel | its all a big conspiricy |
| 21:35.28 | Lunessa | The TRUTH is out there. |
| 21:37.09 | Esine | ot: anyone remember that episode name where mulder and scully go to a bee farm in the middle of a field? |
| 21:37.29 | foxlit | Lunessa: that's a conspiracy, too |
| 21:37.33 | foxlit | The TRUTH is actually over here. |
| 21:37.45 | foxlit | But they keep sending you "out there" in order to mislead you, you see. |
| 21:37.49 | Lunessa | Shhhh! THEY must never learn. |
| 21:38.49 | Tuller | so before I embark on making a fake scroll list with nested items, there's not an example I should already be aware of, is there? |
| 21:39.30 | foxlit | If you're smart, you'll do it in a trivial fashion :) |
| 21:40.11 | Tuller | staring at the ace3 implementation says "that's about what i was going to do" |
| 21:41.03 | foxlit | Can't help you once aces start getting involved :) |
| 21:41.10 | foxlit | But have fun either way. |
| 21:41.26 | |pez| | Any of you wonderfull people who know how font licenses work? |
| 21:41.47 | Tuller | oh, its not going to be implemented via ace |
| 21:41.49 | Fisker- | y so :)? |
| 21:44.55 | Sixen | Attention Trial Account Players â Important Notice |
| 21:44.56 | Sixen | The streaming trial client, which allows trial users fast access to the trial version of World of Warcraft, will be temporarily unavailable while we prepare for our next major content update, "Echoes of Doom." Trial users can continue playing World of Warcraft by downloading the full trial client here: [PC] [MAC]. Streaming trials will be brought back online within a few days of Echoes of Doomâs release, and we will provide further update |
| 21:45.24 | ScytheBlade1 | "Echoes of Doom" |
| 21:45.26 | ScytheBlade1 | I like that name |
| 21:45.28 | Sixen | hehe |
| 21:45.29 | End | that's interesting |
| 21:45.35 | Fisker- | Before the Snowstorm = better |
| 21:45.37 | Fisker- | :( |
| 21:46.02 | cbreak | snowstorm? they don't even have Weather in northrend :( |
| 21:46.06 | Fisker- | and Emerald Dream expansion = Before the Tropical Storm |
| 21:46.34 | cbreak | "Nightmare before Christmas" |
| 21:46.49 | Fisker- | noo |
| 21:46.54 | Fisker- | Have to keep with the "Storm" theme |
| 21:47.20 | cbreak | storms have lame names. |
| 21:47.33 | cbreak | do you want a patch to be called "Ike"? |
| 21:48.21 | Tuller | yes |
| 21:50.15 | Duman | heh |
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| 21:53.21 | leethal | is http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17344 up to date with the latest changes? |
| 21:54.11 | cbreak | no |
| 21:54.16 | cbreak | it says 20080808 |
| 21:54.35 | jaxdahl2 | you may want to refer to this: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202271194&sid=1 |
| 21:54.46 | jaxdahl2 | and this: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10043170854&sid=1 |
| 21:55.34 | Lunessa | No. No Ike. |
| 21:58.25 | Syzgyn | Who was it that was spoofing the guild achievement messages a few weeks ago? |
| 21:58.46 | jaxdahl2 | details? |
| 21:58.55 | jaxdahl2 | spoofing them in-game? |
| 21:59.21 | Syzgyn | Yeah |
| 22:00.03 | Syzgyn | I dont remember who, but someone was getting it to broadcast to the guild and everything, all the rare mount feats |
| 22:00.51 | jaxdahl2 | oh, thought you were asking about server-wide guild achievement messages |
| 22:01.19 | Syzgyn | No |
| 22:01.28 | Syzgyn | Though that would be just as impressive |
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| 22:06.49 | Dashkal | failblog would be a bit more amusing if it's blog software wasn't fail... |
| 22:07.21 | Dashkal | -' |
| 22:08.13 | haste | clearly intended |
| 22:08.18 | haste | being a failblog and all |
| 22:09.02 | Dashkal | It's the same code that annoyed me on ichc for so long. I thought they had fixed it. Obviously not |
| 22:12.00 | Lunessa | failblog - FAIL! |
| 22:12.59 | leethal | jaxdahl2: thanks! |
| 22:14.01 | End | hm |
| 22:14.11 | End | it's interesting graph prices of items on the AH |
| 22:14.27 | End | to graph* |
| 22:16.37 | Dashkal | hmm, come to think of it that would be handy data to have. I'd love to have over time graphs of prices of major comodities (metals, herbs, cloth, etc) |
| 22:17.14 | End | that's what I'm doing :D |
| 22:18.00 | End | I'd have months of data, but I accidently deleted my file and I didn't have a backup |
| 22:18.09 | End | I only finally started graphing it |
| 22:18.42 | AckisWork | If anyone is interested, there's a new beta release of ARL (http://static.wowace.com/uploads/18/245/29/AckisRecipeList-wotlk-branch-Beta2.zip) which works on beta/wrath, complete rewrite including a complete new GUI by Zhinjio, it's in workable form right now |
| 22:18.48 | End | wtf |
| 22:18.55 | End | Mithril is worth more than thorium |
| 22:19.19 | Fisker- | i'm puking AckisWork >:E |
| 22:19.23 | End | that shouldn't still be the case! |
| 22:19.43 | AckisWork | why Fisker-? |
| 22:20.05 | Fisker- | dunno |
| 22:20.11 | Fisker- | been going on for a couple of days now :( |
| 22:20.21 | Fisker- | You haven't pregnated me right AckisWork ? |
| 22:20.24 | Dashkal | End: that's pretty normal on Maelstrom |
| 22:20.28 | AckisWork | no I don't think so Fisker- |
| 22:20.37 | Fisker- | oh |
| 22:20.38 | Fisker- | :( |
| 22:20.39 | Dashkal | Mithril is probably the single most lucrative metal, actually. |
| 22:20.39 | End | I remember pre-TBC that was the case |
| 22:20.45 | Dashkal | Even above Khorium |
| 22:20.52 | Dashkal | since you can move much more of it |
| 22:21.15 | End | Thorium was so devalued due to arcane crystals |
| 22:21.21 | End | well |
| 22:21.29 | End | halfway through my graph mithril overtakes thorium |
| 22:21.35 | End | it was actually ahead beforehand |
| 22:22.52 | AckisWork | bye everyone, see you at blizzcon!!! :D :D :D ahahahahah |
| 22:23.30 | End | It'd be nice to get all the values in 15min increments |
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| 22:33.24 | NightHawkTheSane | oh man.. |
| 22:33.28 | NightHawkTheSane | have you guys seen this? http://blag.xkcd.com/2008/10/08/youtube-audio-preview/ |
| 22:35.37 | Fisker- | Shouldn't be so hard considered it's google :P |
| 22:37.12 | Lunessa | Truesilver. |
| 22:37.32 | cbreak | Voice synthesizers aren't new... |
| 22:39.54 | Lunessa | Tuller: ping. |
| 22:40.04 | Tuller | hrm? |
| 22:40.32 | Tuller | rather Lunessa hrm? |
| 22:40.35 | Lunessa | OmniCC still shows cooldowns on buffs/debuffs on unit frames that use standard cooldown models? |
| 22:40.49 | Tuller | it should, yes |
| 22:41.09 | Lunessa | That's what I thought. |
| 22:42.12 | Lunessa | Thanks. |
| 22:42.12 | Tuller | only case where it wont is if the "show cooldown models" option is unchecked |
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| 22:45.12 | Redguard | does WoW run lua scripts threaded? |
| 22:45.33 | End | no |
| 22:45.37 | Redguard | will it deliver events while another branch is already running |
| 22:45.39 | Redguard | no? ok |
| 22:46.00 | End | you can use coroutines, but that still requires you be cooperative with the system |
| 22:46.07 | Redguard | well |
| 22:46.14 | End | (and that's still technically one thread) |
| 22:46.51 | Redguard | i have an onupdate firing |
| 22:47.01 | Redguard | and it looks like my one table is half filled with data |
| 22:47.25 | Redguard | trying to figure out if the onupdate is catching it in a threaded race condition where the table is being created in parallel |
| 22:47.33 | Redguard | or I just have a small exception/bug i need to find |
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| 22:59.07 | NeoTron | I have an issue with OmniCC showing timers on buttons that have their own timers (specifically the RuneWatch addon) |
| 22:59.25 | Tuller | I think that guy may have contacted me |
| 22:59.36 | Tuller | basically noCooldownCount = true should be set on cooldown models |
| 22:59.52 | Tuller | alternatively, increase the min scale of omicc until it disappears |
| 23:01.49 | NeoTron | hmm ok |
| 23:12.30 | ZorbaBeta | always fun to re-update the PTR after a long time of not using it |
| 23:19.01 | Lunessa | Sorry... got called away to configure wireless access... and the machine took like 20 minutes to boot. |
| 23:19.14 | Shirik|Ecole | ~ping |
| 23:19.15 | purl | ~pong |
| 23:19.27 | Shirik|Ecole | Purl, hi |
| 23:19.28 | purl | hello, shirik|ecole |
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| 23:25.17 | Amarande | hmm, that's strange, there's a slight bug in QuestsFu ... wonder if it's fixed yet. |
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| 23:42.19 | Thunder_Child | i wonder how many people wont be on tonight/tomorrow |
| 23:42.52 | bleeter | bah oceanic clocks STILL WRONG MORE NERD RAGE AARGHARGAHRGHGAHRHARG |
| 23:42.56 | Amarande | Thunder: Patch? |
| 23:43.28 | Thunder_Child | Amarande, no, it's the jew holiday that even sucks in non religous jews |
| 23:44.35 | Amarande | Columbus Day's not Jewish, and that's not till Monday. |
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| 23:45.31 | Amarande | Oh. Yom Kippur. |
| 23:45.34 | NightHawkTheSane | your mom's not jewish |
| 23:45.43 | Thunder_Child | actually she is NightHawkTheSane |
| 23:45.44 | Amarande | Like I can remember what day on a Western calendar that is without looking :S |
| 23:46.14 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: im not going to ask how you know Amarande's mom is jewish |
| 23:46.16 | Thunder_Child | Amarande, dont look at me, i didnt remember it and i was just talking about it |
| 23:46.33 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane, good |
| 23:46.35 | bleeter | AnduinLothar: just read the announcement. thank you, and to your fellow coders, for everything over the years. I can't help but think the game and the community are a heck of a lot stronger because of the Cosmos efforts :) All the best for the future :) |
| 23:47.25 | jaxdahl | currently tanking naxx 25.. 30965 armor, 67.03% reduction O_O |
| 23:48.22 | Amarande | how much armor does 75% need now? |
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| 23:48.40 | NightHawkTheSane | something insane, and probably unreachable passively |
| 23:49.44 | jaxdahl | 44632 74.56% |
| 23:49.49 | jaxdahl | someone hit me with LOH |
| 23:51.17 | jaxdahl | when the server comes back up i'll check how much i get with unbreakable armor + inspiration - loh |
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| 23:56.26 | NightHawkTheSane | crazy.. every single time i've gone to kill araj, someone else has -just- done it |
| 23:56.49 | NeoTron | does anyone know of an addon that collects and can display and/or export profession data for the guild? |
| 23:57.08 | NeoTron | basically want to export patterns people can make and put on a site but not requiring everyone in the guild to do the export |
| 23:58.22 | NightHawkTheSane | ... so.. you want an addon that essentially syncs a users tradeskills with anyone else using the addon, possibly on request, so one of those users can just do a single upload for everyone? |
| 23:58.52 | NeoTron | yes |
| 23:58.57 | NeoTron | or erhaps two addons |
| 23:59.07 | NeoTron | one that collects and exports, one that answers to queries |
| 23:59.16 | NightHawkTheSane | thats a pretty specialized thing |
| 23:59.35 | NeoTron | yes |
| 23:59.53 | NeoTron | but possibly usable for anyone that wants a guild profession directory |
