| 00:01.15 | Duman | nice |
| 00:01.30 | Duman | as soon as I try logging in... booted to login screen and then world server down |
| 00:03.38 | Lunessa | can someone with real experience with quests/quest ids assist this guy? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10873899163&sid=1 |
| 00:04.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: most all of what he's asking for is only visible in the .dbc's, ie, not to the general UI |
| 00:04.35 | Lunessa | Yeah, that's my thought too. |
| 00:05.01 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd respond but I'm doing calc :P |
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| 00:05.58 | Lunessa | I posted. |
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| 00:13.38 | Recompense | Hey everyone, anyone know if it's possible / how to change your game's locale? I'm guessing that's something you have to enable at install |
| 00:14.27 | ScytheBlade1 | not really |
| 00:14.37 | ScytheBlade1 | You can install esMX on enUS realms |
| 00:14.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Failing that you need to own a copy/have an account in the european realms |
| 00:15.14 | ScytheBlade1 | (PS: Guess who) |
| 00:15.18 | Shirik|zZz | are you serious |
| 00:15.21 | Shirik|zZz | hey ScytheBlade1 |
| 00:15.24 | Tekkub | wewt blizzy auth token came |
| 00:15.29 | Lunessa | Yes, he's serious. |
| 00:15.35 | Tekkub | now I can type my password here all I want |
| 00:15.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Well that wasn't directed at you Shirik, haha |
| 00:15.49 | Shirik | oh! |
| 00:16.08 | Recompense | Oh, I know it's Sbo |
| 00:16.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah, k |
| 00:16.13 | Shirik | I didn't realize Shiibot detected an attack again |
| 00:16.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Just making sure |
| 00:16.25 | Recompense | But thanks :) |
| 00:16.34 | Shirik | I was going to direct you to the channel where I thought that's teh channel they were spamming, lol |
| 00:17.08 | smcn | wow! |
| 00:17.10 | Duman | world server sucks my ballzzzzzzz |
| 00:17.23 | smcn | well, the good thing is all the books seem to respawn |
| 00:17.25 | smcn | in dalaran* |
| 00:17.40 | smcn | too bad they're always placeholders ;( |
| 00:18.51 | Lunessa | awesome. small. tweaks. |
| 00:20.54 | Shirik|AFK | ccox|errands: shiibot only responds to my commands, noone else |
| 00:21.17 | Shirik|AFK | moreover !bot is not a command it understands :) |
| 00:22.20 | Arrowmaster | ScytheBlade1: you can use other locales than enUS and esMX on the us realms, its just 'tricky' when patching |
| 00:22.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Arrowmaster: tricky is an understatment, I've yet to see someone who managed to pull it off without breaking their WoW |
| 00:22.53 | Arrowmaster | i did it |
| 00:22.57 | ScytheBlade1 | With that said I've never done it personally and those who tried are not |
| 00:23.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 00:23.24 | Recompense | I bet that I'd be one of the many who broke their WoW |
| 00:23.37 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 00:23.45 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: That's okay, he can't "see you" his parents don't approve. |
| 00:24.04 | Recompense | I'll just beg for localization info /shrug |
| 00:24.12 | Recompense | (in the addon's documentation) |
| 00:24.21 | Arrowmaster | the 'easist' way is to have an install for each regions locales you want to use and just copy the locale folder from the data folder into the main install you use |
| 00:24.34 | Arrowmaster | since you have to remove any extra locales to install a patch |
| 00:25.21 | Recompense | Yeah I'm on a borrowed laptop, I'm not trying anything extravagant or that needs multiple installations |
| 00:27.05 | Recompense | Thanks for the ideas though |
| 00:50.57 | Lunessa | Moo. Time to go home. IF Comcast has given me internet access again, I'll be online later, if not... You're safe until tomorrow. |
| 00:51.28 | eliteevil | Probably went over the 250gb/month cap! =P |
| 00:51.29 | eliteevil | lol. |
| 00:52.05 | NightHawkTheSane | all that porn adds up, you know |
| 00:52.24 | eliteevil | apparently. |
| 00:52.50 | eliteevil | I still think it's kinda dumb to put a cap on |
| 00:52.54 | eliteevil | especially when it's that hight |
| 00:52.56 | eliteevil | *high |
| 00:53.04 | eliteevil | not that I'm complaining and saying it should be lower.. |
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| 01:03.24 | kd3 | hm... 318MB addition to the background download |
| 01:04.29 | Shirik|Ecole | 2 sleeps! |
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| 01:28.54 | smcn | haha, i got the alliance version of reins of the white polar bear from the brunnhildar dailies |
| 01:29.00 | smcn | and it's the alliance version |
| 01:29.08 | smcn | oh i said that already |
| 01:30.37 | kd3 | oh, sweet. an asteroid's about to go kaboom at 0246 UTC over sudan this morning |
| 01:38.56 | cbreak | that would be a good start to a conspiracy theory |
| 01:53.53 | Tem|afk | http://www.flickr.com/photos/18574082@N07/2918366560/ |
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| 01:54.18 | Tem|afk | (NSFW) |
| 01:57.34 | kd3 | lmao |
| 01:59.56 | Xinhuan | sudan? |
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| 02:03.44 | Fisker- | I felt like a mac |
| 02:03.51 | Fisker- | and i just puked down the toilet |
| 02:04.58 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ wow general posters, "PATCH IS TONIGHT" |
| 02:04.59 | ScytheBlade1 | lolol |
| 02:05.31 | Fisker- | Shirik|AFK my friend |
| 02:08.10 | Shirik|Ecole | Fisker- my friend |
| 02:09.00 | Fisker- | you should troll blizzcon |
| 02:09.15 | Fisker- | like ask blizzard if they're going to do something about the raid buff imbalance!1 |
| 02:10.17 | Xinhuan | when is blizzcon day 1 again? |
| 02:10.23 | ccox|errands | if it really only ipacts the top 1% of file sharers - maybe it'll be OK |
| 02:10.24 | kd3 | friday |
| 02:10.25 | Shirik|Ecole | fridaqy |
| 02:10.35 | Shirik|Ecole | ~~~~~~~~~ |
| 02:10.36 | purl | I'm ignoring you now. |
| 02:10.37 | Fisker- | not to mention that i'm drooling puke and blood >:3 |
| 02:10.43 | ccox | but as soon as it impacts my VPN or gameplay, they're in trouble |
| 02:10.59 | Shirik|Ecole | ccox: Silly man |
| 02:11.18 | Shirik|Ecole | you think my bot responds to anyone other than me? That sounds like an attack vector :) |
| 02:11.35 | ccox | Shirik - I could swear that it did for a while |
| 02:11.46 | ccox | Shirik - but, that also could have been you fooling with me, I guess |
| 02:11.46 | Shirik|Ecole | nop :) !bot is also not a recognized command |
| 02:12.01 | Shirik|Ecole | It might have been something like |
| 02:12.07 | ccox | that was me just guessing |
| 02:12.08 | Shirik|Ecole | !quote PRIVMSG #wowuidev :Hahaha silly man |
| 02:12.08 | Shiibot | Hahaha silly man |
| 02:12.08 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole, privmsg has not said anything with your given pattern. |
| 02:12.23 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:12.27 | Shirik|Ecole | in which case I was only simulating a response :) |
| 02:13.35 | Fisker- | !quote QUIT |
| 02:13.36 | batbot | Fisker-, quit has not said anything. |
| 02:13.45 | Fisker- | would've been awsum though |
| 02:13.52 | Xinhuan | !quote Fisker- |
| 02:13.52 | batbot | Xinhuan, fisker- said: "would've been awsum though". |
| 02:13.56 | Fisker- | i need medical attention Shirik|AFK |
| 02:14.28 | Xinhuan | that's not very intuitive |
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| 02:23.36 | Nom- | d'oh.... i just realised I have enough in savings that I could have taken a trip to the US for Blizzcon :D |
| 02:23.46 | Nom- | Next year... |
| 02:25.44 | ccox | ah, wasabi coated peas, how I love thee.... |
| 02:33.41 | Dewin | Is it possible to do something like /target [target=mob1,nodead] mob1; [target=mob2,nodead] mob2; mob3? |
| 02:34.07 | Syzgyn | I dunno, try it :P |
| 02:34.19 | Dewin | well |
| 02:34.28 | Dewin | In the middle of a boss encounter is kind of a bad time to try it ;) |
| 02:34.44 | Syzgyn | I dunno about that, does the boss have adds? |
| 02:35.05 | Dewin | yeah. |
| 02:35.10 | Dewin | three with a set kill order |
| 02:35.16 | Dewin | was going to try to make a macro to mash to get the one I should kill next |
| 02:35.38 | AnduinLothar | i dont think the mob id's work with macros |
| 02:35.51 | AnduinLothar | but i could be wrong |
| 02:36.14 | AnduinLothar | i believe only the classic unitid's do |
| 02:36.22 | Syzgyn | mob names might |
| 02:36.34 | AnduinLothar | ^^ |
| 02:36.41 | Syzgyn | I dont think ids do though |
| 02:36.48 | AnduinLothar | if they have distinct names, then yes that prolly would work |
| 02:36.54 | Dewin | they do |
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| 02:39.09 | Cairenn | blizzcon schedule: http://www.blizzard.com/blizzcon/faq/schedule.xml and interactive floor plan: http://www.blizzard.com/blizzcon/maps/floorplan.xml are finally up |
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| 02:40.50 | Syzgyn | Dewin: Doesn't look like that works. /target [target=mob1, nodead] mob1; mob2 wont target mob2 if mob1 doesnt exist |
| 02:40.56 | Corrodias | that's strange, i joined despite also being sent to #shiibot |
| 02:41.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Ohh SC2 Lore |
| 02:41.37 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm not seeing them announcing their next-gen MMO though :/ |
| 02:42.49 | Dewin | Szygyn: I changed it to ..,nodead,exists |
| 02:42.58 | Dewin | Still don't know if that will work though |
| 02:44.54 | Shirik|AFK | wow |
| 02:45.00 | Shirik|AFK | This is what you call worst possible luck |
| 02:45.03 | Syzgyn | Dewin: oh, just using exist works |
| 02:45.08 | Syzgyn | I think |
| 02:45.11 | Shirik|AFK | Me and someone else want an item, we both roll 1 |
| 02:45.17 | Shirik|AFK | So we reroll, I get 1 he gets 2 |
| 02:45.26 | Thunder_Child | http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wGr8njEWjtI/SM_-C1-WECI/AAAAAAAAAh0/g_Agj1_peBQ/s1600-h/vasectomy.JPG |
| 02:46.33 | Syzgyn | You could probably get it to work |
| 02:46.55 | Syzgyn | TC: wtf? |
| 02:47.10 | Thunder_Child | Syzgyn, you sound surprised |
| 02:47.14 | Corrodias | if i did that, i'd like a cake. |
| 02:47.40 | Shirik|AFK | I'd eat the whole cake |
| 02:47.49 | Shirik|AFK | Poor Corrodias |
| 02:47.52 | Shirik|AFK | you got ownded |
| 02:48.00 | Corrodias | huh? by what? |
| 02:48.03 | Shirik|AFK | (22:40:14) - Join: Corrodias (i=no@adsl-75-17-196-27.dsl.euclwi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 02:48.03 | Shirik|AFK | (22:40:25) (Corrodias) ah fudge it |
| 02:48.03 | Shirik|AFK | (22:40:32) - Part: Corrodias (i=no@adsl-75-17-196-27.dsl.euclwi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 02:48.10 | Thunder_Child | Syzgyn, is http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_wGr8njEWjtI/SM_vFfmvPYI/AAAAAAAAAhc/TPoFbp7LCuc/s1600-h/kyla+s.JPG better? |
| 02:48.18 | Shirik|AFK | sad because today was the first attack in like 2 days |
| 02:48.23 | Syzgyn | Not really :\ |
| 02:48.30 | Corrodias | oh yes. strange part is, Shirik|AFK, that it did not prevent me from joining this channel |
| 02:48.42 | Shirik|AFK | so your timing is just off? |
| 02:48.44 | Corrodias | it sent me there, but for no apparent reason |
| 02:48.50 | Shirik|AFK | not identified in time? |
| 02:48.54 | Corrodias | it put me in both channels |
| 02:49.03 | Thunder_Child | Syzgyn, http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_wGr8njEWjtI/SOExA64nXrI/AAAAAAAAAoQ/XgyRN7AZjQ8/s1600-h/mario+2.jpg ? |
| 02:49.06 | Shirik|AFK | what, really? |
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| 02:49.12 | Shirik|AFK | that's odd |
| 02:49.22 | Corrodias | only #wowuidev is on my join list, and both channels opened |
| 02:49.31 | Shirik|AFK | that is very strange |
| 02:49.53 | Syzgyn | Thats a pretty cool cake |
| 02:50.00 | Syzgyn | but why are you linking pictures of cakes? |
| 02:50.00 | Corrodias | my client identifies as soon as it joins, so maybe there was a race condition |
| 02:50.02 | Shirik|AFK | I see you join this channel 3 seconds after #shiibot, is it possible your client realized the problem and fixed it? |
| 02:50.24 | Thunder_Child | Syzgyn, cuse i was reading through http://cakewrecks.blogspot.com/ and i found them amusing |
| 02:50.31 | Corrodias | well, i guess i can't say that's impossible. i don't know what mirc does if it doesn't join as it expects. |
| 02:50.34 | Syzgyn | lol |
| 02:52.00 | Shirik|AFK | well, mirc gets pissed at freenode sometimes |
| 02:52.12 | Shirik|AFK | Freenode sends some strange messages :) I get "Unable to join channel" all the time |
| 02:52.17 | Shirik|AFK | every channel I join |
| 02:52.23 | Corrodias | >_> |
| 02:52.53 | Shirik|AFK | "Unable to join #foo: Please help freenode weed out clonebots and auto-identify!" |
| 02:52.56 | Shirik|AFK | And then I join the channel |
| 02:52.56 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-rRf] by Shiibot |
| 02:53.00 | Shirik|AFK | .... |
| 02:53.00 | Shirik|AFK | oh |
| 02:53.02 | Thunder_Child | Shirik|AFK, it's not mirc it's that damn script of yous |
| 02:53.03 | Shirik|AFK | that was removing it |
| 02:53.04 | Thunder_Child | yours |
| 02:53.12 | Shirik|AFK | ok fine, whatever :P |
| 02:53.41 | Thunder_Child | -_- |
| 02:54.57 | Shirik|AFK | ok need to restart and go to wendy's |
| 02:54.58 | Shirik|AFK | bbl |
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| 03:09.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Cisco having a booth at Blizzcon is interesting |
| 03:10.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Kinda says things about WoW's playerbase |
| 03:10.42 | Iriel | or their product base |
| 03:11.37 | Neuro_Medivh | Cisco is located same place as Blizzard, no? |
| 03:11.43 | Neuro_Medivh | corp hq I mean |
| 03:12.45 | Neuro_Medivh | San Jose... not that close really... I just figured someone at Cisco might be a huge WoW fan and talked someone into letting him set up a booth there =) |
| 03:12.57 | Iriel | Cisco == Linksys |
| 03:13.16 | Iriel | I suspect that's the angle they're working |
| 03:13.17 | Iriel | but who knows |
| 03:13.51 | ScytheBlade1 | That's entirely possible |
| 03:14.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Far more logical than them bringing in high-end switches and routers to demo, heh |
| 03:14.28 | Iriel | Probably, though that'd be neat too |
| 03:14.46 | Neuro_Medivh | you think they're pushing the whole "Linksys is the best network solution for your high end home gaming!" |
| 03:14.54 | Iriel | Probably |
| 03:15.00 | Iriel | you can use one with your dell |
| 03:15.02 | Corrodias | ahah, ahahahah |
| 03:15.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, I'd love it if they did bring in high-end switches and routers |
| 03:15.20 | ScytheBlade1 | But something tells me they won't |
| 03:16.09 | Neuro_Medivh | hmm, wonder what 'Swagdog' is |
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| 03:16.39 | Iriel | http://www.swagdog.com/store/pc/index.asp |
| 03:16.41 | Iriel | More shirts |
| 03:16.44 | Neuro_Medivh | oh, cool, Fantasy Flight is gonna be there... they make the boardgame for WoW I guess |
| 03:17.19 | Corrodias | unless i can have them deliver that woman to my house... nah. |
| 03:18.07 | Neuro_Medivh | reminds me of those 'webcomics' who's sole purpose is to sell t-shirts featured in the comic |
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| 03:18.35 | Neuro_Medivh | ah, crap, it's Shirik |
| 03:18.42 | Neuro_Medivh | oh, nm, he's afk |
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| 03:20.00 | Shirik | omg triple cheeseburger |
| 03:20.02 | Shirik | <3<3<3 |
| 03:20.15 | Neuro_Medivh | hmm, Vasco turns out to be a maker of authentication services and devices... I wonder what they make that's WoW-related? =) |
| 03:30.33 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, have you looked at the 50D yet? |
| 03:32.09 | Corrodias | is it possible to strip Vista down to a halfway presentable state? anything at all like XP? |
| 03:32.13 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: Not a whole lot (less than the D90, and even that's not been much). |
| 03:32.43 | Thunder_Child | Corrodias, go use an xp if thats what you want |
| 03:33.01 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: Nice big screen |
| 03:33.16 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, i'm sorry but you are failing as a camera enthusiest |
| 03:33.16 | Corrodias | ah, but the problem there, such as it is, is the lack of directx 10 |
| 03:33.21 | Thunder_Child | spelled correctly ofc |
| 03:33.42 | Corrodias | although i'm thinking i can live without dx10 for many happy years yet |
| 03:33.44 | Thunder_Child | Corrodias, i remeber reading something about a DX10 hack for xp |
| 03:33.54 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: heh, there have to be limits otherwise i'd be living in a cardboard box with a ton of expensive cameras |
| 03:34.05 | Corrodias | i wouldn't be surprised if somebody's working on one |
| 03:34.16 | kd3 | meh, by the time dx10 is necessary, wine'll hopefully be able to run dx10 on xp |
| 03:34.18 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, i meant keeping up with it, not buying everything |
| 03:34.36 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: But what when something cool comes out, then the lust starts, then it's a slippery slope |
| 03:34.38 | Shirik | so how has the wine in windows project been going? |
| 03:34.41 | Corrodias | dx10 -> wine -> cygwin -> dx9 |
| 03:34.43 | Corrodias | ;) |
| 03:34.52 | Shirik | I haven't really paid any attention to it |
| 03:34.53 | Shirik | just curious |
| 03:34.58 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, good point since i want to try to pick up the 50D before blizzcon |
| 03:35.09 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: The clock's running! |
| 03:35.13 | Shirik | 50D huh? |
| 03:35.18 | Shirik | Sadly I can't do that right now |
| 03:35.22 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, i know |
| 03:35.24 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: Thanks for reminding me to make sure all my batteries are charged |
| 03:35.47 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, well i dont have the money for it straigt out but if they are willing to buy my XTi for something we may have a deal |
| 03:36.05 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, your welcome though i dont quite remember saying anything about batteries :) |
| 03:36.07 | Shirik | I just am slowly working on paying off my credit cards |
| 03:36.13 | Shirik | when I hit 0 balance, I'm going for a new camera |
| 03:36.20 | Shirik | which includes, obviously, lenses, etc. |
| 03:36.52 | Thunder_Child | so you are going to hit zero just to go back in the red |
| 03:36.56 | Shirik | yup |
| 03:37.03 | Thunder_Child | >.< |
| 03:37.11 | NightHawkTheSane | better than just going further into the red |
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| 03:37.16 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: You didn't -- but you said '50D(ie camera)' and 'blizzcon' in the same sentence |
| 03:37.17 | Shirik | ^ |
| 03:37.38 | Shirik | My justification of a credit card: I can pay off at least $200/mo on it |
| 03:37.44 | Thunder_Child | Iriel....but they should always be chared.... |
| 03:37.47 | Shirik | If I stay under the credit limit, I can pay anything off in approximately a year |
| 03:37.51 | Thunder_Child | charged* |
| 03:38.05 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: I have 4, so generally 2 are |
| 03:38.17 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: the others just lay around between periods of activity |
| 03:38.21 | Shirik | eh, that's a little off actually |
| 03:38.24 | Shirik | credit limit is closer to 2 years |
| 03:38.25 | Shirik | but still |
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| 03:38.49 | Shirik | It puts an artificial boundary on what I'm willing to time slice :) |
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| 03:39.06 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, i only have one....i dont ever remember needing more than one in one photo shoot |
| 03:39.09 | Iriel | (Yes, 4 is excessive, I only planned on 3, and even that's misleading since my wife's camera takes the same batteries so really they're shared pool of spares, plus one in each camera) |
| 03:39.39 | Thunder_Child | s/Iriel, i only have one....i dont ever remember needing more than one in one photo shoot/iriel, makes sense/ |
| 03:39.46 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: I haven't really run out while out shooting at all with this camera, but D/L'ing to the laptop can be a bit of a drain. |
| 03:40.06 | Iriel | so if i'm away from a power source, more than one is handy |
| 03:40.13 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, i picked up a 80-in-1 card reader for reason like that |
| 03:40.19 | Thunder_Child | reasons* |
| 03:40.39 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: I should do that, I had a nice reader for my Lexar CF card but it doesn't work with other cards (mutter) |
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| 03:42.15 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, i picked up http://usb.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=00421&dept_id=015&cat_id=031 light, no issues so far, easy to use, reasonable price |
| 03:42.37 | Iriel | That's excessive 8-) |
| 03:42.39 | Iriel | I like it. |
| 03:42.52 | Thunder_Child | only iritating thing is that the "removable drives" are not labeled so you have to click on them all to find the one you want >.< |
| 03:44.35 | Shirik | See! There's a good reason to go film |
| 03:44.43 | Shirik | I don't have to change the batteries but like once a month |
| 03:44.51 | Shirik | (which reminds me, I should get some batteries before I go) |
| 03:45.00 | Thunder_Child | yet you have to change rolls of film all the damn time |
| 03:45.17 | Shirik | but it makes that cool sound when you put a new roll in |
| 03:45.25 | Shirik | does your camera do that when you put a new CF card in? |
| 03:45.30 | Shirik | I don't think os |
| 03:45.32 | Shirik | so* |
| 03:45.34 | Thunder_Child | take lots and lots of pictures |
| 03:45.48 | Shirik | anyway, sleepy time |
| 03:45.49 | Shirik | night |
| 03:45.55 | Thunder_Child | night Shirik |
| 03:45.56 | Shirik | Cairenn: 1 sleep! |
| 03:47.25 | kd3 | oh wow. they're making a series out of super-slow-mo stuff happening on discovery |
| 03:47.43 | Corrodias | well shit. i'd watch that. |
| 03:48.13 | ScytheBlade1 | What is this with numeric sleep? (@ Shirik) |
| 03:48.30 | Shirik|zZz | ask Cairenn |
| 03:48.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: ^ |
| 03:48.44 | Cairenn | what? |
| 03:48.48 | Cairenn | oh, yeah |
| 03:49.02 | Cairenn | until I get on a plane for BlizzCon |
| 03:49.10 | Iriel | Technically the sleep count doesn't decrement until you wake up again |
| 03:49.28 | Shirik|zZz | what if I use prefix decrement? |
| 03:49.44 | Cairenn | Iriel: precisely, which is why it's still 2 sleeps! |
| 03:49.51 | Cairenn | it'll be 1 sleep after I wake up tomorrow |
| 03:49.56 | ScytheBlade1 | oh |
| 03:49.58 | ScytheBlade1 | I see |
| 03:49.59 | kd3 | hm... will I go to sleep Wednesday night? I've gotta wake up at like 4 am |
| 03:55.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Pretty sure I'm going to cry... level 70 guildie in a 60% mount |
| 03:55.36 | Dashkal | Dual-spec information to come at blizzcon: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/2/10638063159-how-to-fix-balance-bloat.html |
| 03:55.44 | Neuro_Medivh | well, one of you is in the wrong guild then, ScytheBlade1 |
| 03:59.21 | Duman | hmm |
| 04:03.51 | Duman | is reg. open on Thursday, or does it just start fri am |
| 04:03.57 | Duman | (anyone know? :) ) |
| 04:04.35 | Neuro_Medivh | according to website, reg opens 7am friday |
| 04:04.51 | Duman | yeah, saw that... just thought I had heard it would be open Thurs evening, too... guess not :) |
| 04:05.47 | Neuro_Medivh | I miss the gaming cons of my youth... 24 hour gaming rooms, huge sprawling events |
| 04:06.10 | Duman | WTF why is the UI panel DURING LUNCH |
| 04:06.11 | Neuro_Medivh | I loves me some internet, but I do miss the social aspects |
| 04:06.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Duman: true geeks don't eat at normal hours, you know this |
| 04:06.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Duman: because blizzard hates you, personally. with an extra slap to the face ;) |
| 04:06.32 | Iriel | Duman -- that helps you avoid the rush on the food spaces |
| 04:06.41 | Duman | hehe, true, true |
| 04:06.49 | Duman | A SLAP IN THE FACE |
| 04:07.05 | Duman | nerf lunch |
| 04:07.26 | Neuro_Medivh | you should ride your Drama Llama right up into the UI panel and shout "SLAP TO THE FACE!" |
| 04:08.20 | kd3 | whee... forums are 503ing |
| 04:08.23 | Dashkal | Anybody doing anything interesting? Heroic Nexus or some such? |
| 04:08.39 | AnduinLothar | Naxx whee |
| 04:08.48 | Dashkal | Meh, avoiding that place |
| 04:09.09 | Dashkal | I was originally going to skip instances so I could do them with my guild.. that fell apart. Naxx will remain :p |
| 04:09.36 | Dashkal | I'm much more interested in Ulduar anyway |
| 04:11.08 | Duman | I should just level Dumandk to 80, eh? :-P |
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| 04:11.14 | Duman | I keep getting distracted by my other chars |
| 04:11.18 | Dashkal | :p |
| 04:11.26 | Dashkal | Now that I'm at 80 I'm kinda bored again |
| 04:11.34 | Duman | heh |
| 04:11.50 | Dashkal | I should log my druid and do BT but *meh* |
| 04:11.59 | Neuro_Medivh | yeah... worst part is, seems like 2/3 of the people lvl 80 are DKs |
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| 04:12.10 | Dashkal | ooo! Shiny! |
| 04:12.23 | Dashkal | I'm more worried about the live population balance. |
| 04:12.30 | Duman | yeah, I should probably try to get my priest there, so I we can have a healer :P |
| 04:12.34 | Dashkal | I think I'm the only confirmed main switcher in my guild, but we'll see |
| 04:12.38 | Duman | (another) |
| 04:13.15 | Neuro_Medivh | Dash, I think most people will stick with their main. not too many people switched to Shaman for BC |
| 04:13.24 | Neuro_Medivh | or paladin, horde side |
| 04:13.28 | Dashkal | o.o |
| 04:13.36 | Dashkal | I see a _ton_ of BE/Paladin |
| 04:13.58 | Neuro_Medivh | well, yeah, NOW |
| 04:13.59 | Dashkal | Shammies never really interested me |
| 04:14.07 | Dashkal | I just dislike the playstyle |
| 04:14.59 | Neuro_Medivh | enhance is fun, for soloing... but I dislike where it's gone for raiding |
| 04:15.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Dashkal: what's not to like about LB.. LB.. LB.. LB... >.> |
| 04:15.47 | Dashkal | I never got anywhere near that level |
| 04:15.57 | Dashkal | I don't think I broke 25, actually |
| 04:16.04 | Neuro_Medivh | what destroyed me in raiding was when people started insisting on totem twisting |
| 04:16.33 | Dashkal | Yeah, that turned me right off. I never learned aura twisting in d2, and I had little interest in picking up the skill later |
| 04:17.19 | NightHawkTheSane | I've seen a -resto- shaman successfully totem twist. it really kind of scared me |
| 04:18.16 | Corrodias | well, D2 auras made it pretty easy; you just switched between two occasionally |
| 04:18.44 | Dashkal | Corrodias: I was always more interested in hitting things than constantly tapping back and forth |
| 04:18.53 | Dashkal | I just gave up and worked on my barb |
| 04:19.20 | Corrodias | well, D2 parties OUGHT to be more forgiving if you can't do something than WoW ones |
| 04:19.37 | Corrodias | since any character can solo anything short of the special event bosses, even with a full game |
| 04:19.45 | Dashkal | yep |
| 04:19.47 | Corrodias | assuming enough levels |
| 04:19.59 | Dashkal | I never saw the special event bosses. I quit a patch before that |
| 04:20.25 | Dashkal | I kinda gave up when I realized I was gaining life from lightning and I was splattering Baal solo |
| 04:20.31 | Corrodias | i did a few before them, too. hell, i stuck to Classic for a long time. i played xpac areas once, but it really didn't grab me, with the charms and BS |
| 04:20.55 | Dashkal | I liked the xpack much more than normal. The stash upgrade made all the difference |
| 04:21.10 | AnduinLothar | rune words imo |
| 04:21.19 | Dashkal | AnduinLothar: too much of a pain to get the runes |
| 04:21.22 | Dashkal | The economy was bullshit |
| 04:21.25 | Corrodias | rune words could not interest me; i'd never get anything decent |
| 04:21.55 | Dashkal | The economy as it was was useless to people not willing to fully immerse themselves into it. Prices were a closely guarded secret |
| 04:22.23 | Corrodias | huh? how can you have a secret price? |
| 04:22.28 | Neuro_Medivh | I liked D2, but not that much |
| 04:22.44 | Corrodias | although what duped, bugged item people traded with in xpac i don't know |
| 04:24.37 | Corrodias | oop, i'd better get to the store while it has a chance of still being open... |
| 04:25.49 | Dashkal | prices are secret because people tried not to ever quote one |
| 04:25.51 | Dashkal | you had to offer |
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| 04:27.21 | Neuro_Medivh | I hate when people do that shit. The person initiating the transaction has the responsibility of making the first offer |
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| 04:44.33 | batrick | !lua points(1700) |
| 04:44.34 | batbot | batrick: > 607, 5v5 |
| 04:47.44 | NightHawkTheSane | this icon is awesome: http://p-userpic.livejournal.com/74595949/372238 |
| 04:49.00 | ccox | ok, how the heck do I get to wintergrasp from dalaran? The NPC says "use the portal", but I can't find a portal to wintergrasp. |
| 04:49.17 | Nom- | Yeah, that seems to happen from time to time |
| 04:49.21 | Nom- | You have to fly |
| 04:49.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Your faction has to control wintergrasp for the portal to be active |
| 04:49.35 | ScytheBlade1 | If it's neutral or not controlled by your faction, it will not be there |
| 04:49.47 | Nom- | ScytheBlade1: The portal seems to expire... it will be there for the first hour or so, then vanishes |
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| 04:49.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Nom-: ah, good stuff |
| 04:49.59 | ccox | we supposedly do control it, but no portal |
| 04:49.59 | kd3 | an npc will yell when he's creating one |
| 04:50.29 | p3lim | central time atm? |
| 04:50.44 | kd3 | otherwise, take the gryphon there? both sides have an fp |
| 04:50.52 | kd3 | it's 10 minutes to midnight central time |
| 04:51.36 | ScytheBlade1 | The hippie insults are entertaining |
| 04:51.44 | Syzgyn | SBO? |
| 04:51.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Err |
| 04:51.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Wrong channel |
| 04:51.50 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:51.53 | Syzgyn | lol |
| 04:51.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Wrong /server/ even |
| 04:52.03 | ScytheBlade1 | A guy linked me a guild forum |
| 04:52.06 | Syzgyn | ~fail ScytheBlade1 |
| 04:52.07 | purl | You suck at everything in life, ScytheBlade1. I hate you because you fail. |
| 04:52.38 | Neuro_Medivh | ScytheBlade1, which forum? |
| 04:52.53 | digmouse | woot, NE hunter premade! |
| 04:53.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Neuro_Medivh: just a guild forum on my server. As stated, people are calling others hippies |
| 04:53.27 | Syzgyn | hippies are fun though |
| 04:53.30 | Neuro_Medivh | I thought hippies were extinct... or at least an endangered species |
| 04:54.06 | Syzgyn | Nah, they just hide from outsiders |
| 04:55.04 | Syzgyn | I was just at a big hippy thing this past weekend, tons of fun |
| 04:56.52 | ccox | sigh, stupid premade toon doesn't have a FP for wintergrasp |
| 04:57.42 | ccox | trust me, plenty of hippies in Berkley and Santa Cruz |
| 05:00.11 | p3lim | ok, 7 hours behind me |
| 05:00.56 | kd3 | http://nist.time.gov/ |
| 05:16.04 | p3lim | time to go to work |
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| 05:35.40 | kd3 | gah. the twisted things I come up with at 25:30 waiting for the caffeine to wear off. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10960996022&sid=1#5 |
| 05:37.01 | WobWork | http://www.itwire.com/content/view/21016/53/1/0/ |
| 05:37.19 | Dewin | Anybody have a large blunt object, preferably 2h? |
| 05:37.43 | NightHawkTheSane | you mom's a large blunt object. |
| 05:37.54 | Dewin | I need to bash WoW UI designer into oblivion >.> |
| 05:37.55 | NightHawkTheSane | your* |
| 05:38.18 | Dewin | can't seem to get text on a button. >.> |
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| 06:00.47 | Dewin | oh, and boo on the 100% /reloadui crash >.> |
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| 06:01.15 | Duman | noooooooooooooooooooooooo |
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| 06:02.51 | Dewin | copystring left the room (quit: Nick collision from services.) ... well, maybe that's because it was a copy? |
| 06:04.08 | WobWork | he wasn't null terminated |
| 06:04.36 | Dewin | Or maybe it was a buffer overrun? |
| 06:05.47 | Dewin | bleh |
| 06:06.05 | Dewin | Well I got my text to show on my buttons in WoW UI designer... but it doesn't show in the game |
| 06:06.32 | Dewin | I think I'll just write lua for this... BUT... I have to full on restart wow every reloadui so... not until the next ptr build |
| 06:07.28 | Dewin | *sigh* I finally get in the mood to work on my addon again and I can't. |
| 06:09.26 | WobWork | ? |
| 06:09.37 | WobWork | why do you have to restart wow if you're using lua to build the frames? |
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| 06:11.47 | Xinhuan | you don't even have to restart wow even if you built it in xml |
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| 06:13.27 | WobWork | just if it's a completely new file |
| 06:13.41 | WobWork | although I didn't know that for xml = |
| 06:13.43 | WobWork | ) |
| 06:13.54 | WobWork | I've gotten used to the WAR method |
| 06:14.03 | WobWork | where it rereads the whole directory on reloadui |
| 06:14.13 | Dewin | WobWork: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10867007915&postId=106926350337&sid=1#3 |
| 06:14.16 | Dewin | is why I have to fully restart wow |
| 06:14.29 | Dewin | reloadUI crashes 100% |
| 06:15.02 | WobWork | mmm terrible =P |
| 06:15.23 | Dewin | so... I can't really do much until that's fixed |
| 06:15.26 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 06:15.59 | Dewin | oh gdi |
| 06:16.14 | Dewin | I hit space right as the 'hardware changed. Reolad settings?' box came up and it defaults to yes |
| 06:16.16 | Dewin | goodbye UI |
| 06:17.37 | WobWork | =( |
| 06:17.44 | Dewin | hmm, apparently it's just video settings |
| 06:17.55 | Dewin | and you have until you exit WoW to make a copy of your config.wtf and salvage it |
| 06:18.00 | Dewin | well, at least until you log in |
| 06:18.19 | Dewin | pHEW |
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| 06:29.37 | Xinhuan | well just click NO |
| 06:29.39 | Xinhuan | and you'll be fine |
| 06:35.16 | Dewin | ... Xin: I hit space on my keyboard to type in IRC right as the prompt came up. It defaults to yes. |
| 06:35.30 | Xinhuan | end-task it in task manager :) |
| 06:35.41 | Xinhuan | and pray it didn't rewrite the file hehe |
| 06:35.44 | Dewin | No need, just backup config.wtf before you quit :) |
| 06:35.56 | Dewin | ... I just discovered the bejeweled addon can actually take pity on you. |
| 06:36.05 | Dewin | If you run out of moves on first level it drops explodey gems until you have a move. |
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| 06:38.20 | Arrowmaster | Dewin: it does that a lot, well not explodey gems but will drop stuff that will give you matches, like ive had it drop 3 same color gems in a row that instantly make a match quite a lot of times |
| 06:38.34 | Dewin | it just happening to drop 3 color gems is one thing |
| 06:38.53 | Dewin | but if it's on level 1 (and ONLY on level 1), it'll drop explodeys that explode on impact even if they don't match anything |
| 06:39.03 | Dewin | And will keep doing so until you have a move again |
| 06:39.13 | Arrowmaster | oh lol |
| 06:39.20 | Dewin | The RNG has been really, really hating me lately |
| 06:39.34 | Dewin | My top score is 27000, I haven't scored above 4k in like 20 straight games |
| 06:39.37 | Dewin | and my last one failed on lv2 |
| 06:39.40 | Arrowmaster | im not sure but i dont think ive ever ran out of moves if there was a possible match if it would drop a certain color |
| 06:39.56 | Dewin | I wonder if bejeweling skill mucks with the level generator |
| 06:40.02 | Dewin | since mine's around 360ish >.> <.< |
| 06:40.11 | Arrowmaster | no clue |
| 06:40.41 | Dewin | though oddly the timed games DO like me, I have a 350 PPM game. |
| 06:40.45 | Dewin | PPS* |
| 06:41.10 | Arrowmaster | i have a 337 one as might highest |
| 06:41.18 | Arrowmaster | somebodys got 600+ in my guild |
| 06:41.22 | Duman | err |
| 06:41.23 | Duman | server kaput? |
| 06:42.15 | Dewin | In PPS? |
| 06:42.39 | Dewin | though... it's really easy to get a high PPS if you do an insanely short game and start out with a lucky combo |
| 06:42.46 | Dewin | My 350 is on a 75 second flight |
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| 06:44.29 | Dewin | wow, their source is... fair obfuscated |
| 06:45.14 | Arrowmaster | not really |
| 06:45.29 | Maldivia | uhh... dual-spec feature is on topic at blizzcon |
| 06:45.31 | Arrowmaster | just ran through a program to 'try to compress it' |
| 06:45.42 | Dewin | yeah. |
| 06:45.46 | Dewin | that;'s kind of what I meant |
| 06:46.01 | Arrowmaster | thats far from obfuscated |
| 06:46.22 | Arrowmaster | since when you actually try to obfuscate you add stuff to trick the people reading it |
| 06:47.08 | Dewin | true. |
| 06:47.27 | Dewin | I've always been really interested in how exactly their level generator worked |
| 06:51.32 | devXero | my addon has a global variable that is conflicting with another authors addon... Is there a way to make these variables global to my addon, but not to the entire addon library? |
| 06:51.48 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 06:52.09 | Dewin | This is why I like to have just one global variable and make it a table |
| 06:52.47 | Dewin | Progression technically has three: ProgressionGlobalData (savedvariables), ProgressionCharacterData (savedvariablesperchar) and ProgressionXP (everything else, including all of the functions) |
| 06:53.00 | devXero | I found what I needed |
| 06:53.03 | devXero | File Local Variabls |
| 06:53.25 | devXero | File-local variables, as their name suggests, are local to the file in which they are declared. |
| 06:53.36 | Dewin | that will work within your file but not the other Lua files your addon uses, if you use other files |
| 06:53.39 | devXero | accessible to the entire fille, |
| 06:53.43 | devXero | that's all I need :D |
| 06:53.47 | Dewin | ah |
| 06:54.05 | Dewin | If you need more, consider doing what I do, and then just "local PXP = TheBigLongGlobalVariableName" at the top of your files ;) |
| 06:55.14 | devXero | Dewin: yeah, this variable is already a table like you suggested... referenced all over the place |
| 06:55.40 | Dewin | I do a lot of what I call 'finger leather savers' |
| 06:55.50 | devXero | heh |
| 07:05.35 | Mundy | so i'm just starting to get into lua and wow ui creating, anyone know any decent starting tutorials? |
| 07:05.46 | Mundy | i have a solid understanding of programming |
| 07:05.48 | Mundy | and xml |
| 07:05.53 | Mundy | not lua, however |
| 07:06.03 | Mundy | (yes im searching google) |
| 07:07.56 | Arrowmaster | ~wowprogramming |
| 07:07.57 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons (http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob) a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 07:09.24 | Mundy | ty |
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| 07:10.01 | Mundy | when was that published? |
| 07:10.11 | cladhaire | the end of April |
| 07:10.47 | Mundy | ahk nice |
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| 07:36.56 | Adys | could someone point me to a quick explanation on the "..." syntax and how to use it? function foo(bar, ...) |
| 07:37.06 | Adys | (and yeah i tried googling it, it's not googlable) |
| 07:39.14 | zenzio | not sure if this contains the info you're looking for, but try http://www.wowwiki.com/Using_the_argument_%27...%27_efficiently |
| 07:39.35 | Adys | thats a good start, thanks a lot |
| 07:40.35 | NightHawkTheSane | you might also check pil and/or lua-users.org |
| 07:41.53 | Adys | checked lua-users but not much I can easily find since google pretty much ignore dots |
| 07:41.58 | Adys | +s |
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| 07:43.34 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, searching for variable arguments may work |
| 07:44.07 | Xinhuan | ... is just a lua keyword that means "the rest of the arguments" |
| 07:44.31 | Xinhuan | you can only use it in a function with ... declared as part of its args |
| 07:44.54 | Xinhuan | and in that function, you can use it in any location that expects an expression, or a list of arguments |
| 07:45.01 | Xinhuan | for eg, "local a, b, c = ..." |
| 07:45.07 | Xinhuan | will get the first 3 args |
| 07:45.46 | Adys | what's the advantage doing function foo(bar, ...) instead of foo(bar, a, b, c) in this case? |
| 07:45.50 | Xinhuan | for eg, "local a, b, c = 123, ..." will assign 123 to a, the first arg to b, and the 2nd arg to c |
| 07:45.50 | Adys | (if there is any) |
| 07:46.05 | Xinhuan | the main advantage is in variable arguments |
| 07:46.17 | Xinhuan | for eg, print() can accept any number of arguments |
| 07:46.30 | Xinhuan | to find out how many arguments is in "..." |
| 07:46.31 | Doow | there's also http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#2.5.9 of course =) |
| 07:46.41 | Xinhuan | you do local count = select("#", ...) |
| 07:46.45 | Doow | although maybe not that easy to read |
| 07:46.59 | Xinhuan | you do "local arg1 = select(1, ...)" to get the first arg |
| 07:47.07 | Xinhuan | you do "local arg3 = select(3, ...)" to get the 3rd arg |
| 07:47.13 | Xinhuan | so yu can easily just have a loop |
| 07:47.19 | Adys | I see |
| 07:47.24 | Xinhuan | for i = 1, select("#", ...) do |
| 07:47.29 | Xinhuan | and you do stuff with select(i, ...) |
| 07:47.37 | Xinhuan | likewise, when you hook a function |
| 07:47.42 | Xinhuan | you can just accept ... |
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| 07:47.49 | Xinhuan | and pass on ... into the original function you hooked |
| 07:48.30 | Adys | ... is treated as a table? |
| 07:48.34 | Xinhuan | no |
| 07:48.37 | Xinhuan | it is treated as a list |
| 07:48.43 | Adys | ok |
| 07:48.44 | Xinhuan | like "local a, b, c = 1, 2, 3" |
| 07:48.55 | Xinhuan | that "1, 2, 3" is a list of 3 arguments |
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| 07:49.09 | Adys | i see |
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| 07:49.22 | Xinhuan | consider local localizedclass, class = UnitClass("player") |
| 07:49.27 | Xinhuan | UnitClass() returns 2 values |
| 07:49.34 | Xinhuan | its just a list of 2 items |
| 07:49.54 | Xinhuan | in this case, ... is a list, the number of items in this list is whatever is passed in |
| 07:50.18 | Xinhuan | function foo(bar, ...) <-- in this function, if you passed in 3 args, then ... will be a list of 2 items |
| 07:51.56 | Adys | aye i see. cheers for the help :) |
| 07:52.23 | Xinhuan | note that passing in nil |
| 07:52.26 | Xinhuan | counts as an item |
| 07:52.48 | Xinhuan | the value nil, is a value |
| 07:52.58 | Adys | foo("boo", nil) |
| 07:52.59 | Xinhuan | as opposed to not passing in anything |
| 07:53.15 | Xinhuan | yeah if you passed in that, ... will be a list of 1 item, and its value is nil |
| 07:53.20 | Adys | hmm ok |
| 07:53.23 | Xinhuan | select("#", ...) will return 1 |
| 07:53.34 | Xinhuan | likewise if you passed in foo("boo", 1, nil, 2) |
| 07:53.40 | Xinhuan | then the list is 3 items long |
| 07:54.55 | Xinhuan | like any list, you can use pack() and unpack() |
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| 08:18.27 | Dewin | hmm... just broke 80,000 in Bejeweled... and then lost. |
| 08:18.48 | Dewin | Just completely obliterated the scores chart |
| 08:19.04 | Dewin | (#2 is 27k) |
| 08:19.38 | Dewin | I sleep now |
| 08:24.41 | Adys | Is there a way to know a for loop has been successfully completed? a bit like python's for/else |
| 08:31.35 | Mundy | what do you mean by successfully |
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| 08:45.41 | Adys | Mundy: that hasn't been broken |
| 08:46.35 | Adys | for v in table do if not v then break; end else Success() end |
| 08:46.51 | Adys | thats the princip anyway |
| 08:47.19 | Mundy | use a flag before the break |
| 08:47.40 | Adys | hmm could do yeah |
| 08:48.37 | Mundy | other than that, you'd probably only be able to check on the data the loop is accessing/processing |
| 08:48.47 | Mundy | but the former would be the easiest way |
| 08:48.54 | Adys | yeah a flag does the job fine |
| 08:48.56 | Adys | cheers |
| 08:50.02 | Mundy | i wish i could just quit my job and quit uni so i could work on my own projects -_- |
| 08:50.09 | Neuro_Medivh | don't we all |
| 08:50.26 | Mundy | here i am doing a gay ass c assignment when i could be learning lua and making cool ass ui mods |
| 08:50.40 | Mundy | fuck the world |
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| 08:51.57 | Antiarc | LocBot: where is Antiarc? |
| 08:51.58 | LocBot | Antiarc: Antiarc is in Scottsdale, AZ, United States (Map: http://is.gd/3DPb) |
| 08:52.00 | Antiarc | \o/ |
| 08:52.41 | zenzio | LocBot: where is zenzio? |
| 08:52.41 | LocBot | zenzio: zenzio is in Oslo, 12, Norway (Map: http://is.gd/3DQu) |
| 08:52.50 | Mundy | LocBot: where is Mundy? |
| 08:52.51 | LocBot | Mundy: Mundy is in Manning, 08, Australia (Map: http://is.gd/3DQv) |
| 08:52.59 | Mundy | nope, sorry |
| 08:53.06 | Adys | LocBot: Where are you? |
| 08:53.06 | LocBot | I don't know who that is, Adys. Are they in this channel? |
| 08:53.15 | Adys | LocBot: I'm pretty sure you're here |
| 08:53.21 | Antiarc | He's not very smart >_> |
| 08:53.23 | Antiarc | I just wrote him |
| 08:53.37 | zenzio | where does he get his location data? |
| 08:53.48 | Antiarc | The Maxmind geolocation database |
| 08:54.06 | zenzio | LocBot: where is zenzelezz? |
| 08:54.06 | Fisker- | where is Fisker- ? |
| 08:54.07 | LocBot | zenzio: zenzelezz is in Kristiansand, 19, Norway (Map: http://is.gd/3DQE) |
| 08:54.11 | Fisker- | where is Fisker-? |
| 08:54.13 | Fisker- | giev |
| 08:54.16 | Fisker- | >:E |
| 08:54.22 | Antiarc | LocBot: where is Fisker-? |
| 08:54.23 | LocBot | Antiarc: Fisker- is in Fakse Ladeplads, 12, Denmark (Map: http://is.gd/3DQI) |
| 08:54.25 | Fisker- | >:E |
| 08:54.37 | Adys | LocBot: where is Addybot? |
| 08:54.37 | LocBot | Adys: I don't know where Addybot is from! (Are they cloaked?) |
| 08:54.38 | Fisker- | oh shi- |
| 08:54.44 | Fisker- | i'm living in the water |
| 08:54.48 | Mundy | me too |
| 08:54.55 | Antiarc | Fisker-: I always knew you were a fish. |
| 08:54.57 | Antiarc | This just proves it. |
| 08:55.12 | Adys | I always wondered why no one successfully drowned Fisker- |
| 08:55.21 | Adys | this just gives me more ideas for a painful death |
| 08:57.34 | Antiarc | who keeps killing it :( |
| 08:58.21 | Antiarc | Oh |
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| 08:58.30 | Antiarc | It was puking every time someone left a channel |
| 08:58.30 | Antiarc | :V |
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| 09:18.01 | batrick | LocBot: where is batrick |
| 09:18.01 | batrick | LocBot: where is batrick? |
| 09:18.01 | batrick | :( |
| 09:18.02 | LocBot | batrick: batrick is in Albuquerque, NM, United States (Map: http://is.gd/3DTx) |
| 09:19.13 | batrick | that's only ~5 miles off :O |
| 09:19.17 | Antiarc | I should write more IRC bots |
| 09:19.17 | batrick | clever bot |
| 09:19.19 | Antiarc | They're fun! |
| 09:19.28 | batrick | whose bot is LocBot ? |
| 09:19.32 | Antiarc | <--- |
| 09:19.36 | batrick | ah |
| 09:19.36 | Antiarc | I just wrote it |
| 09:19.38 | batrick | nice =) |
| 09:19.45 | Antiarc | in ur internets |
| 09:19.49 | Antiarc | stalking ur ips |
| 09:19.53 | batrick | batbot has been neglected lately |
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| 09:24.46 | LocBot | jaxdahl: jaxdahl is in Austin, TX, United States (Map: http://is.gd/3DUm) |
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| 09:26.27 | batrick | Antiarc: what'd you write it in? |
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| 09:26.39 | Antiarc | Ruby |
| 09:26.44 | batrick | eww |
| 09:26.54 | Antiarc | shh |
| 09:26.56 | Antiarc | Ruby's wonderful |
| 09:27.01 | Adys | eww |
| 09:27.23 | batrick | Antiarc.respect-- |
| 09:27.26 | Gnarfoz | funny how everything degrades to a "I don't like what you use for x" thing in here, always xD |
| 09:27.38 | batrick | Gnarfoz: it's just a joke :P |
| 09:27.55 | Gnarfoz | even then :D |
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| 09:28.10 | Kalroth | Ruby sucks, x86 upcodes forever!! |
| 09:28.12 | Adys | i don't like the "xD" smiley Gnarfoz, you should use more modern and widely used smileys |
| 09:28.19 | Gnarfoz | ^_^ |
| 09:28.55 | Antiarc | So I'm thinking I could make LocBot chart where people in a given channel are connected from |
| 09:29.11 | Antiarc | Or rather, who is talking in a given channel, and where they're from, and then chart that over time |
| 09:29.30 | Gnarfoz | hehe |
| 09:29.58 | Gnarfoz | couple that with pie... damn what was it called, that social networking in IRC channels stat thingy :> |
| 09:30.26 | vithos | piespy? |
| 09:30.35 | Gnarfoz | could be |
| 09:30.43 | Gnarfoz | yep |
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| 09:37.34 | Mundy | does anyone know what the most popular DKP tracking mods are? and where i can find them? |
| 09:55.20 | Gnarfoz | eqdkp, and it's not a mod. :D |
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| 10:00.21 | Adys | is there a way to :match a string and ignoring the case? apart from using strlower() on both arguments |
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| 10:04.49 | Mundy | Gnarfoz, i mean an in game mod that generates the logs that you pass to EQDKP |
| 10:05.21 | Gnarfoz | CT_RaidTracker (mldkp version) |
| 10:05.33 | Gnarfoz | at www.mldkp.net |
| 10:05.34 | Mundy | i thought ct_mod was discontinued |
| 10:05.38 | Mundy | ah |
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| 13:20.45 | jaxdahl2 | wonder if they will push a new beta build before blizzcon |
| 13:20.58 | nevcairiel | hopefully |
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| 13:30.21 | |pez| | And now, for something completely different -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HE9OQ4FnkQ |
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| 13:30.48 | Antiarc | LocBot: Where is |pez| |
| 13:30.51 | LocBot | Antiarc: |pez| is in Bergen, Norway (Map: http://is.gd/3E2V) |
| 13:31.33 | |pez| | Neat |
| 13:31.43 | Antiarc | LocBot: Who do you know in Norway? |
| 13:31.43 | LocBot | Antiarc: |pez|, ose and leethal |
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| 13:31.50 | Lopeppeppy | LocBot: Where is Lopeppeppy |
| 13:31.52 | LocBot | Lopeppeppy: Lopeppeppy is in Saratoga Springs, NY, United States (Map: http://is.gd/3Exm) |
| 13:31.55 | Lopeppeppy | Whee! |
| 13:31.56 | leethal | wut |
| 13:32.03 | |pez| | LocBot: Where is zenzelezz |
| 13:32.04 | LocBot | |pez|: zenzelezz is in Kristiansand, Norway (Map: http://is.gd/3DQE) |
| 13:32.14 | Ose | why do you ping me during my important WC3 time? |
| 13:32.25 | |pez| | LocBot: Who do we know in Norway? |
| 13:32.27 | LocBot | I don't know who that is, |pez|. Are they in this channel? |
| 13:32.36 | |pez| | Ooh |
| 13:32.37 | Antiarc | LocBot: Who is in Norway? |
| 13:32.37 | LocBot | Antiarc: |pez|, ose and leethal |
| 13:32.41 | Ose | LocBot: Where is Ose |
| 13:32.42 | LocBot | Ose: Ose is in Ålesund, Norway (Map: http://is.gd/3E1o) |
| 13:32.48 | Antiarc | (It's not very smart yet - it only logs someone if they speak) |
| 13:32.53 | leethal | LocBot: 42? |
| 13:32.54 | |pez| | Oooh |
| 13:33.06 | Antiarc | The idea is that I can compile aggregate location data over time |
| 13:33.08 | nevcairiel | everything not in US is mostly inaccurate anyway |
| 13:33.09 | Antiarc | See who is talking from where |
| 13:33.10 | |pez| | But, that is a rather neat feature. |
| 13:33.18 | Antiarc | Then do some map plotting over time |
| 13:33.44 | nevcairiel | btw do you have that swarm of the ace repo in some higher quality somewhere? =P |
| 13:33.51 | Antiarc | I have a 640x480 copy locally |
| 13:33.57 | Antiarc | I need to re-render at a higher res |
| 13:34.14 | nevcairiel | the online version was unreadable |
| 13:34.16 | nevcairiel | sadly |
| 13:34.30 | Antiarc | yeah :( |
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| 13:41.24 | alestane | |pez|: That song has that distinctive tone of "Look, English is cool!" |
| 13:41.51 | Lopeppeppy | Morning Shirik. |
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| 13:42.43 | alestane | You scared him away! |
| 13:43.03 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah... I do that to Shirik sometimes. *looks down at her empty paws and shrugs gently* |
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| 13:43.23 | Lopeppeppy | Make him not be able to speeeel too. |
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| 13:44.07 | Antiarc | LocBot: Who is Sh1r1k? |
| 13:44.07 | LocBot | I don't know who that is, Antiarc. Are they in this channel? |
| 13:44.13 | Antiarc | LocBot: Who is Shirik? |
| 13:44.14 | LocBot | I don't know who that is, Antiarc. Are they in this channel? |
| 13:44.21 | Antiarc | Humm. |
| 13:45.26 | nevcairiel | doesnt cache the host if he cloaks in between? |
| 13:45.39 | Antiarc | Nope |
| 13:45.51 | Antiarc | It is a very stupid bot. >_> |
| 13:45.55 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 13:46.14 | Shirik | it's a different nick too so |
| 13:47.39 | Shirik | Does WoW accept Lua scripts with the BOM header? |
| 13:47.52 | Antiarc | Yup |
| 13:49.56 | Nom- | *sigh* |
| 13:50.01 | Nom- | so slow levelling now :D |
| 13:50.40 | Nom- | wtb another damage stacking buff so I can get my pally to 80 on beta |
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| 13:52.05 | kneeki | Morning. |
| 13:52.15 | Lopeppeppy | Morning |
| 13:52.59 | Shirik | morning Lopeppeppy |
| 13:53.08 | Shirik | sorry you caught me spamming the channel |
| 13:54.10 | Lopeppeppy | Tsk tsk, dear |
| 13:55.36 | alestane | LocBot: Where is alestane? |
| 13:55.37 | LocBot | alestane: alestane is in Woburn, MA, United States (Map: http://is.gd/3ECV) |
| 13:57.25 | kneeki | lol |
| 13:57.31 | kneeki | LocBot: Where is kneeki? |
| 13:57.34 | LocBot | kneeki: kneeki is in Spokane, WA, United States (Map: http://is.gd/3EDl) |
| 13:57.38 | kneeki | lol |
| 13:57.40 | kneeki | wow |
| 13:57.49 | Lopeppeppy | alestane is wicked smaht |
| 13:57.58 | kneeki | rofl |
| 13:58.03 | kneeki | Well, it got the town correct |
| 13:58.11 | kneeki | But the map is horribly incorect |
| 13:58.28 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, the location is foxed for me too, but to be within even 25 miles is creepy stalker spookdom. |
| 13:58.40 | alestane | I'm somewhat puzzled as to how it arrived at that coordinate myself. |
| 13:58.41 | kneeki | Lopeppeppy: lol yes |
| 13:58.41 | vapid | ip geolocation |
| 13:58.53 | Antiarc | It'll be mapping whatever the highest-granularity router your ISP provides geolocation data on is |
| 13:58.57 | alestane | I don't even know what's around that area, really. |
| 13:59.03 | Antiarc | In urban US areas it's usually good to within about 5 miles |
| 13:59.06 | vapid | ^ what antiarc said |
| 13:59.29 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, I do, don't be silly! *poke* |
| 13:59.50 | Shirik | Server first! http://images.gammatester.com/pics/89411f73bf6821d428861db8abcccafc.jpg |
| 14:00.01 | Antiarc | It's mildly stalkerish, but I figure I'm performing a public service by letting people know they aren't as anonymous as they may think, so they may be appropriately cautious >_> |
| 14:00.13 | alestane | Well, I;m figuring out the geography, but I'm trying to figure out what it in terms of what's there. |
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| 14:00.48 | Lopeppeppy | There's a school down that way, a few apartment complexes... |
| 14:00.56 | alestane | Yeah, that's a section of Woburn where I really never have any business. |
| 14:01.24 | alestane | It looks like the coordinates are probably in the school sports field or something. |
| 14:01.28 | Antiarc | Sorry, vapid, LocBot doesn't respond to PMs yet |
| 14:01.34 | Antiarc | I only wrote it last night |
| 14:01.36 | Lopeppeppy | Not a lot down there, except that I used to use it to pass around town center traffic when coming across to go more north |
| 14:01.39 | Antiarc | It's still a pretty stupid bot |
| 14:01.44 | Antiarc | LocBot: botsnack |
| 14:01.44 | jaxdahl2 | can someone check on beta what item item ID 40539 refers to? |
| 14:01.45 | LocBot | Antiarc: om nom nom. om nom |
| 14:01.46 | LocBot | We must push little cart! |
| 14:02.02 | vapid | locbot: where is vapid? |
| 14:02.04 | LocBot | vapid: vapid is in Kingsport, TN, United States (Map: http://is.gd/3EEz) |
| 14:02.13 | vapid | ./cheer |
| 14:02.28 | Slakah | locbot: where am I? |
| 14:02.29 | LocBot | I don't know who that is, Slakah. Are they in this channel? |
| 14:02.29 | jaxdahl2 | 40194 too |
| 14:02.51 | Antiarc | LocBot: Where is Slakah? |
| 14:02.52 | LocBot | Antiarc: Slakah is in Doncaster, United Kingdom (Map: http://is.gd/3EEZ) |
| 14:03.20 | jaxdahl2 | 43952 40532 too |
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| 14:05.15 | Castigo | hello every1 |
| 14:05.54 | kneeki | Heya |
| 14:06.04 | Lopeppeppy | MORNING!!! |
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| 14:06.45 | Shirik | !reload |
| 14:06.48 | Shirik | oops |
| 14:06.54 | batrick | owend! |
| 14:06.59 | Castigo | lolz :P |
| 14:07.03 | Shirik | I fail at commas |
| 14:07.04 | Castigo | shirik the query ^^ |
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| 14:07.23 | batrick | batbot: fail? |
| 14:07.24 | batbot | batrick, Better not tell you now. |
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| 14:08.00 | Antiarc | I should implement a reload command for LocBot |
| 14:08.07 | Shirik | config.lua:20: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 17) near ''.*LocBot[^!]*![ni]=LocBot@wsip-70-184-82-98.ph.ph.cox.net'' |
| 14:08.07 | Shirik | stack traceback: |
| 14:08.09 | Shirik | :( |
| 14:08.09 | Antiarc | Killing and restarting the process sorta sucks :P |
| 14:08.24 | batrick | Antiarc: it's only really useful if you are actively working on your bot |
| 14:08.30 | Antiarc | batrick: Which I am :P |
| 14:08.42 | batrick | right... im just sayin |
| 14:08.52 | Shirik | Useful for reconfiguration :) |
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| 14:09.06 | Shirik | Like if I (correctly) add a known bot to the list |
| 14:09.08 | Castigo | shirik have u got time to reconfigure me too please? ^^ |
| 14:09.09 | Shirik | and I can just go |
| 14:09.10 | Shirik | !reload |
| 14:09.10 | Shiibot | AI routines & configuration reloaded |
| 14:09.13 | Shirik | and boom |
| 14:10.06 | Shirik | :batbot!n=batbot@c-68-35-67-18.hsd1.nm.comcast.net PRIVMSG #WoWUIDev :+batrick, Better not tell you now. |
| 14:10.11 | Shirik | Preserved for posterity |
| 14:10.12 | Shane|Work | I've been vaguely thinking about trying to write an IRC bot in Ruby |
| 14:10.18 | Shirik | NO |
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| 14:10.23 | Antiarc | LocBot's in Ruby |
| 14:10.23 | Shirik | Why would you ever want to do anything in Ruby |
| 14:10.26 | Shirik | omg |
| 14:10.30 | Shane|Work | I <3 ruby |
| 14:10.30 | Shirik | removing LocBot from known list |
| 14:10.33 | Antiarc | Because Ruby is an elegant, efficient language? |
| 14:10.39 | Lopeppeppy | And smexy |
| 14:10.40 | Shirik | lol |
| 14:10.48 | batrick | uh lol |
| 14:10.59 | vapid | not as fast as python though |
| 14:11.01 | Antiarc | True, its GC sucks, but writing code it in is just downright enjoyable. |
| 14:11.03 | Redguard | Antiarc the words interpreted and efficient don't go on the same line |
| 14:11.14 | Shane|Work | ["do", "do not"].include? "try" => false |
| 14:11.14 | batrick | i suppose you can call it efficient if you compare to say... i dunno... javascript lol?? |
| 14:11.16 | Antiarc | efficient in programmer-hours spent |
| 14:11.18 | Shane|Work | that's why ruby is awesome |
| 14:11.33 | Shirik | I took one look at Ruby and said "wtf is this crap" |
| 14:12.20 | Castigo | python ftw |
| 14:12.23 | Shane|Work | batrick: there are alternate interpreters that are much better, not to mention ruby 1.9 is going to be nearly as fast as compiled languages |
| 14:12.39 | Antiarc | Ruby's just got some really, really nice bits of polish |
| 14:12.39 | batrick | that's a silly thing to say |
| 14:13.02 | Shane|Work | batrick: why? |
| 14:13.06 | batrick | im sure at somethings it may be as fast but it will always suffer due to interpretation |
| 14:13.08 | Antiarc | Let's be honest here - if you're in an interpreted langauge, execution speed is rarely an issue, embedded Lua in WoW being an exception |
| 14:13.32 | Antiarc | Because you're generally going to be waiting on DB or network IO, more than you're going to spend time being CPU-bound |
| 14:13.32 | jaxdahl2 | only reason i've looked at ruby is because it's used in google sketchup |
| 14:13.43 | Shane|Work | right. you won't be writing low-latency machine controllers or video games, but it's a great language |
| 14:13.46 | Antiarc | And all the really hardcore stuff is delegated out to daemons written in C, anyhow |
| 14:14.09 | batrick | are they finally adding a bytecode to ruby? |
| 14:14.10 | Shane|Work | Antiarc: use rails, merb, or the like, I take it? |
| 14:14.14 | batrick | in "1.9"? |
| 14:14.16 | Antiarc | Rails, yeah |
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| 14:14.39 | Antiarc | yes, ruby 1.9 has intermediate bytecode |
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| 14:15.30 | Antiarc | LocBot: Where is netcurse? |
| 14:15.31 | LocBot | Antiarc: netcurse is in Atlanta, GA, United States (Map: http://is.gd/3EHZ) |
| 14:15.47 | Antiarc | But really. IRC bots really aren't exactly "high performance" :P |
| 14:16.01 | Ose | LocBot: who is in Sweden? |
| 14:16.01 | LocBot | Ose: norsken |
| 14:16.01 | Antiarc | So it makes sense to write them in languages that let you work quickly and efficiently |
| 14:16.02 | Redguard | uhh |
| 14:16.02 | Shirik | mine is! |
| 14:16.05 | Redguard | says who Antiarc |
| 14:16.17 | Ose | norsken is in sweden..? |
| 14:16.18 | Redguard | back when I wrote bots they were extremely optimized and efficient |
| 14:16.23 | Ose | that doesn't make sense |
| 14:16.32 | Antiarc | Redguard: They don't have a need for optimization, like, say, a video game render loop does. |
| 14:16.37 | Lopeppeppy | Uphill both ways, Redguard? |
| 14:16.39 | Redguard | Antiarc wrong |
| 14:16.47 | Antiarc | Oh, okay then :V |
| 14:17.03 | Redguard | Antiarc ever tried to write code that housed hundreds of thousands of clients spanned across a network? |
| 14:17.04 | Norsken | Locbot: who is in norway? |
| 14:17.04 | LocBot | Norsken: |pez|, ose and leethal |
| 14:17.06 | Redguard | you have to optimize |
| 14:17.08 | Norsken | o.O |
| 14:17.11 | Redguard | go take a look at Efnet |
| 14:17.17 | Redguard | and get back to me |
| 14:17.29 | Ose | norsken you are in norway right? |
| 14:17.34 | Shane|Work | if your bot only serves a few channels then why go to the trouble to optimize? sure, certainly do so if it's server-wide |
| 14:17.34 | Norsken | Nope |
| 14:17.39 | Norsken | Stockholm, Sweden |
| 14:17.44 | Antiarc | On the scale of "apps that have to be high performance", your average IRC bot is not very high on the list. |
| 14:17.55 | Antiarc | Sure, there will be hundreds-of-thousands-of-clients-served exceptions. |
| 14:17.56 | Ose | why are you named as such then? |
| 14:18.10 | Antiarc | But the vast majority? Iiiii don't think so. |
| 14:18.13 | Redguard | much of my code is still used today |
| 14:18.15 | Shirik | how about "On the scale of security-critical applications" :) |
| 14:18.18 | Redguard | most likely in the server we're sitting on |
| 14:18.25 | Shirik | IRC bots are pretty high |
| 14:18.31 | vapid | Antiarc, does locbot respond to queries, or does one need to spam the channel to use it? |
| 14:18.40 | Antiarc | vapid: No query support yet |
| 14:18.46 | Antiarc | I'll do that after I get some sleep |
| 14:18.48 | vapid | alrighty :) |
| 14:18.51 | Shirik | are you sure? |
| 14:18.56 | Redguard | a lot of time was spend on the irc servers and the bots which stress tested and maintained them |
| 14:18.58 | Shirik | I'm not sure how it was coded |
| 14:19.06 | Shirik | but Shiibot accidentally works on queries |
| 14:19.14 | Antiarc | It doesn't, no |
| 14:19.15 | Shirik | only because the way I coded it happened to make it work |
| 14:19.17 | Norsken | Ose: I'm of Norwegian blood ofcourse, currently residing in Sweden. Raised here too. Happened to mention it to a few friends 10~ years ago and it's simply a nickname that has stuck on. :-) |
| 14:19.33 | batrick | Shirik: it's hard to not accidently make that work :) |
| 14:19.49 | Shirik | yes I know :) |
| 14:19.58 | Shirik | Since it's pretty much identical |
| 14:19.59 | Shirik | oh |
| 14:20.11 | Shirik | FLOOD WARNING has been isssued for 32114 Expires at 02:00 EDT on 10/08/08 |
| 14:20.12 | Shirik | yay |
| 14:20.34 | batrick | ABQ needs rain :( send ur clouds to us |
| 14:20.48 | Shane|Work | Antiarc: did you host the code to LocBot anywhere, by any chance? I don't want to ninja it, just look it over, I love reading Ruby code |
| 14:21.04 | Antiarc | I haven't, though I could throw it on github. It's an ugly piece of work, though. |
| 14:21.09 | Antiarc | It's 7 AM here and I've been up all night :P |
| 14:21.18 | Antiarc | Needs some heavy-duty refactoring |
| 14:21.52 | Ose | LocBot: who is in Kuala Lumpur? |
| 14:21.53 | LocBot | Ose: I don't know of anyone in Kuala Lumpur! |
| 14:21.56 | Ose | :( |
| 14:22.11 | Shirik | ipod femto! |
| 14:22.28 | Shirik | I should put the code for Shiibot somewhere |
| 14:22.33 | Shirik | but it's ugly |
| 14:22.37 | Shane|Work | lol xkcd |
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| 14:22.44 | vapid | locbot: who is in tennessee? |
| 14:22.44 | LocBot | vapid: I don't know of anyone in tennessee! |
| 14:22.50 | vapid | lies |
| 14:22.54 | Antiarc | LocBot: Who is in TN? |
| 14:22.55 | LocBot | Antiarc: vapid and bouvi |
| 14:23.12 | Shirik | LocBot: Who is in FL? |
| 14:23.12 | LocBot | Shirik: redguard, sh1r1k and beladona |
| 14:23.18 | Shirik | Yey, it remembers me :D |
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| 14:24.08 | batrick | i still want to see this bots code |
| 14:24.18 | batrick | shirik has been avoiding my queries |
| 14:24.22 | batrick | im very disappointed |
| 14:24.27 | Shirik | it's ugly! |
| 14:24.30 | Shirik | Let me make it pretty first |
| 14:24.43 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik.... you remember those two lines. |
| 14:24.52 | Lopeppeppy | I'll be bringing them up to you again later, I'm extremely very sure. |
| 14:25.04 | Shirik | o.o |
| 14:25.19 | Shirik | This is going to bite me in the butt later isn't it? |
| 14:25.22 | Lopeppeppy | Yuppers. |
| 14:25.31 | Lopeppeppy | Get yourself an ace bandage for the strain. :) |
| 14:25.32 | Shane|Work | Shirik: what's your github username? |
| 14:25.39 | Shirik | good question |
| 14:25.47 | Shirik | See we have this problem |
| 14:25.53 | alestane | "Next Question." |
| 14:25.58 | Shirik | I hate git. Or rather, I have no good reason to use git. |
| 14:26.13 | Shane|Work | Shirik: oh? |
| 14:26.41 | Shirik | I like SVN. Everything that git claims to "fix" and "make better" than SVN... I don't have a problem with. |
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| 14:28.24 | Shane|Work | Ah. I just dig the easy branching and tagging, and being able to work with local repos, though I do wind up with some spaghetti dependencies between repos if i work at home, work, and while I'm in class |
| 14:28.35 | Shane|Work | The efficient storage is a plus |
| 14:28.58 | Shirik | See that's just it |
| 14:29.00 | Shirik | I don't get it |
| 14:29.06 | Shirik | what's so hard about branching, tagging, merging with SVN |
| 14:29.31 | Shirik | And I consider centralized storage a plus, not a minus |
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| 14:29.41 | Shane|Work | To be honest, I almost miss using darcs, because that was idiot-friendly |
| 14:29.49 | Shane|Work | and nothing is really that difficult about svn |
| 14:30.08 | Shirik | Linus would have you believe it's as difficult to use as emacs |
| 14:30.25 | Lopeppeppy | Morning Seerah. How many more sleeps? |
| 14:30.35 | vapid | emacs isnt difficult to use :P |
| 14:30.46 | Shane|Work | I'm fickle and like to go with trendy new technology regardless of legitimate merits, see: Rails/Merb, Ace3, Leopard, git, Google Chrome, etc. |
| 14:31.02 | Shirik | Side note: Much like I see no reason to go with git when I have svn, I see no reason to go with emacs when I like vi |
| 14:31.04 | Shane|Work | c-m-x-butterfly? |
| 14:31.20 | Lopeppeppy | .... |
| 14:31.34 | haste | Shirik: mercurial! |
| 14:31.44 | vapid | it annoys me in other programs when i go to hit c-x c-s to save, most of the time it screws something up -.- |
| 14:31.48 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy: What's an ace bandage? |
| 14:32.02 | Gnarfoz | google eet |
| 14:32.19 | Shane|Work | haste: do you use mercurial? I know you use git for your addons |
| 14:32.37 | batrick | i thought shirik was a emacs fanboi |
| 14:32.38 | Shane|Work | the ubuntu team swears by hg, from what i hear, not that that's a stellar endorsement |
| 14:32.41 | batrick | what's this about him liking vim |
| 14:32.42 | Shirik | hellllllllllll no |
| 14:32.47 | haste | Shane|Work: I use it when I work with others at uni |
| 14:32.48 | Shirik | I've always liked vim |
| 14:32.48 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik... are you joking? |
| 14:32.53 | Shirik | no :( |
| 14:32.54 | batrick | ok good shirik |
| 14:32.59 | Beladona | I prefer svn over git myself, mostly due to familiarity and lack of interest in switching |
| 14:33.08 | batrick | you've restored some faith in you =) |
| 14:33.08 | Shirik | do ace bandages make you pretty? |
| 14:33.38 | Shirik | oh those things! |
| 14:33.40 | batrick | as they like to say, emacs is a nice operating system that lacks a good text editor |
| 14:33.41 | Shane|Work | *sigh* I miss my 12Mb residential cable at my tiny little apartment. my ratio goes up so much slower on 5Mb |
| 14:33.41 | Shirik | Yes I know what those are |
| 14:33.52 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy: I didn't think those were bandages :/ |
| 14:33.59 | Beladona | I think a lot og git's adoption has been due to better development in the area of web interfaces |
| 14:34.16 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, compression bandages are properly called Ace bandages, trademark and stuffs like that. |
| 14:34.44 | Shane|Work | Beladona: really? you think? I haven't seen anything resembling Jira/Fisheye, for one. and cgit is the only passable repo browser that I've come across. |
| 14:34.45 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy is scaring meh :( |
| 14:34.49 | vapid | haha ive weened myself off of emacs because i've been doing a lot more windows development lately, doubt ill be going back. but the keybinds still invade my brain |
| 14:34.52 | Redguard | any of you guys big on pvp/arena in WoW? |
| 14:34.57 | Lopeppeppy | Why, because I have basic first aid training, Shirik? |
| 14:34.59 | Mundy | i try to be |
| 14:35.04 | Beladona | people like the stupid easy interfaces that places like github use |
| 14:35.08 | Shirik | No, because I apparently will need basic first aid |
| 14:35.12 | Beladona | not talking about the advanced ones like jira |
| 14:35.19 | Lopeppeppy | Only if you strain yourself trying to get out of trouble. |
| 14:35.39 | Redguard | Mundy what classes/race |
| 14:35.47 | Mundy | im be holy pally |
| 14:35.49 | Beladona | but then, I prefer the advanced |
| 14:35.50 | Antiarc | Shane|Work: http://github.com/cheald/locbot/tree/master |
| 14:35.53 | Antiarc | It's ugly, but it works |
| 14:35.55 | Lopeppeppy | Holy pally rocks my world. |
| 14:36.01 | Mundy | me too |
| 14:36.03 | Mundy | love holy pally |
| 14:36.03 | Shane|Work | Beladona: I rather like Github, it quite embraces the mentality of git. I'm fairly sure it's responsible for a lot of git adoption. |
| 14:36.16 | Lopeppeppy | Much of love. I'm not happy with my LK options as holy though. *sigh* |
| 14:36.21 | Beladona | I agree |
| 14:36.32 | Beladona | in the end I have no reason NOT to use git |
| 14:36.34 | Mundy | yeah from what i've been reading the holy tree seems to have lost its way =/ |
| 14:36.37 | Beladona | but I also have no reason TO use it |
| 14:36.38 | Mundy | it was such a solid tree |
| 14:37.33 | Lopeppeppy | It seriously looked good at first, but Beacon is.... lamesauce. It's the only heal I know of where it can absolutely fail to go off. Not even stick you with overhealing, just plain old waste your mana without doing anything at all. I will NOT be interested in that... |
| 14:37.51 | Shane|Work | anyone use rtorrent with a web ui? at the moment I run a tightvnc server with only wine and utorrent on it |
| 14:37.53 | Mundy | beacon looked good imo |
| 14:38.19 | Lopeppeppy | Did. *sigh* But it's unbelievably quirky and stupid. |
| 14:38.21 | Mundy | mind you i havent really looked at it extensively |
| 14:38.34 | Mundy | has it changed in the last build? |
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| 14:38.59 | Lopeppeppy | I have no idea, honestly. I haven't had time in the last 2 weeks for Beta. |
| 14:39.08 | Mundy | i havent had time in about 3 months for beta |
| 14:39.13 | Mundy | my warrior sits on level 71 |
| 14:39.20 | Shane|Work | Antiarc: no bot framework? coded by hand? |
| 14:39.27 | Antiarc | Shane|Work: It's using YAIL |
| 14:39.29 | Redguard | you can't start a username with a '0' correct? |
| 14:39.33 | Antiarc | It's not really that great though. |
| 14:39.34 | jaxdahl2 | i have a level 80 DK, what's your question about beta? |
| 14:39.35 | Redguard | or any number |
| 14:39.46 | Antiarc | Not on Freenode at least. |
| 14:39.47 | Shirik | Fail to go off? How's that Lopeppeppy? |
| 14:39.50 | Lopeppeppy | Mundy, read up on it. There is a lot of hate for the mechanics that make it extremely likely to just silently fail, be a waste of your mana, and never do a damn thing. |
| 14:39.51 | Mundy | has beacon of light (or w/e its called) changed in the last build? |
| 14:39.54 | Redguard | Antiarc sorry, i meant in WoW |
| 14:39.55 | Redguard | not irc |
| 14:40.04 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, I'd have to linky you, let me see if I bookmarked the discussion... |
| 14:40.20 | Antiarc | Oh, no, no numbers, punctuation, or spaces in wow character names |
| 14:40.32 | Redguard | k |
| 14:40.39 | jaxdahl2 | i think he's asking about username? |
| 14:40.49 | Antiarc | doh >_< |
| 14:40.51 | Antiarc | I need sleep. |
| 14:40.53 | Antiarc | Badly :P |
| 14:40.54 | Mundy | mechanics like what |
| 14:40.56 | Mundy | ? |
| 14:41.13 | Castigo | world server down again |
| 14:41.13 | Redguard | heh no worries |
| 14:41.15 | Castigo | on beta |
| 14:41.16 | Castigo | gaaah |
| 14:41.18 | Lopeppeppy | Mundy, searching for my linkie |
| 14:42.05 | Mundy | oki |
| 14:42.17 | Lopeppeppy | Mundy, some of it is buried in this lolthread, it's a start... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10043239621&sid=2000 |
| 14:43.02 | Lopeppeppy | This goes into it as well http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10532600037&sid=2000 |
| 14:43.19 | Seerah | good morning, peppy :) 3 more sleeps |
| 14:43.42 | AckisWork | http://www.blizzard.com/blizzcon/faq/survivalguide.xml |
| 14:44.32 | Mundy | wow they talk so doomy and gloomy about BC holy |
| 14:44.34 | Mundy | its not that bad |
| 14:44.36 | Mundy | sheesh |
| 14:44.46 | Redguard | "you will likely see a night elf, murloc, tauren, or other denizen of Azeroth that you want to keep a memento of. " |
| 14:44.56 | Redguard | these nerd re-enactment social gatherings, they scare me |
| 14:45.15 | Redguard | I'm all for a fun video game and enjoying a challenge |
| 14:45.21 | Mundy | ugh i hate the forums |
| 14:45.28 | Mundy | everyone is either a blizzard nay-sayer |
| 14:45.30 | Redguard | but reliving fantasy worlds in real life, I think there's mental issues here |
| 14:45.32 | Mundy | or a blind fanatic |
| 14:45.43 | Mundy | its so hard to sift out actual information in a post |
| 14:45.50 | Redguard | Mundy I love the video game I write addons for it and play it a lot, yet there's a fine line there |
| 14:46.10 | Mundy | yeah |
| 14:46.14 | Mundy | im the same, i really like wow |
| 14:46.22 | Mundy | and am starting to learn how to write addons |
| 14:46.27 | Redguard | :) |
| 14:46.29 | Mundy | but people just get so fucking down on blizz |
| 14:46.33 | Mundy | or down on each other |
| 14:46.37 | Mundy | for the stupidest shit |
| 14:46.42 | Mundy | "it has become clear that no one at Blizzard plays a holy Paladin, nor has any vision for the class going into Wrath." |
| 14:46.45 | Mundy | brb hanging myself. |
| 14:46.50 | Redguard | lol |
| 14:46.54 | Lopeppeppy | So filter through. The complaints about silent failure are extremely valid, once you read past the emokin. |
| 14:47.01 | Mundy | yeah |
| 14:47.11 | Mundy | it just takes so much motivation to wade through the shit |
| 14:47.29 | Mundy | i have to do a 30 minute self-affirmation ritual before i even step foot in the class forums |
| 14:48.04 | Mundy | heh |
| 14:48.04 | Lopeppeppy | If you don't go there and practice, you won't hear the discussions that are valid. I agree that the tone and bitterness suck, but a point is a point. |
| 14:48.08 | Mundy | guess im as bad as everyone |
| 14:48.09 | klip | complains about complains :) |
| 14:48.14 | Mundy | im hell over dramatizing |
| 14:48.23 | Mundy | haha klip exactly |
| 14:48.50 | vapid | metacomplaining |
| 14:50.25 | Mundy | the only real problem i found with holy pallies presently is mana endurance |
| 14:50.47 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, they nerfed that in a handbasket. |
| 14:51.01 | Mundy | i'm yet to outlast an equivilently geared priest/druid healer in arena |
| 14:51.20 | Lopeppeppy | We have crap for incombat regen. |
| 14:51.22 | Mundy | but part of me just thinks "well thats part of being a paladin" |
| 14:51.31 | Mundy | its the nature of the beast etc |
| 14:51.43 | Lopeppeppy | With the changes to potions though, we're totally in trouble in long fights. |
| 14:51.54 | foxlit | Meh. |
| 14:51.58 | alestane | I thought they removed potion sickness> |
| 14:51.59 | alestane | ? |
| 14:52.09 | foxlit | They made it invisible |
| 14:52.16 | Lopeppeppy | I think different, but maybe I'm behind the times? I still keep hearing "one potion per combat" |
| 14:52.18 | foxlit | If you're actually in trouble, they'll adjust spell costs or something. See: mages. |
| 14:52.27 | Shirik|AFK | that's what I hear too, Lopeppeppy |
| 14:52.38 | foxlit | I think the effect is that the potion cooldown doesn't start until you exit combat. |
| 14:52.49 | Redguard | my under geared druid regens 300 MP5 non and 180 while casting |
| 14:52.52 | Redguard | as non dreamstate spec |
| 14:53.09 | Redguard | then i have a spirit weapon to switch to for innervate, i am hard pressed to go oom |
| 14:53.19 | jaxdahl2 | i honestly haven't used any potiosn, Lopeppeppy |
| 14:53.21 | Mundy | my average geard pally regens about ~130 with BoW and the epic trinket buff |
| 14:53.23 | jaxdahl2 | potions* |
| 14:53.28 | Redguard | I did a game at 1800 rating the other day helping a warlock friend, hunter druid team made me go OOM 10 minutes in |
| 14:53.28 | jaxdahl2 | in raids, that is |
| 14:53.34 | Redguard | after 18 minutes we killed them |
| 14:53.38 | zenzelezz | my warrior never has mana trouble!!1 |
| 14:53.39 | Redguard | I lived for 8 minutes off MP5 |
| 14:53.41 | Redguard | :/ |
| 14:54.07 | Redguard | zenzelezz as does mine |
| 14:54.18 | Redguard | which is why i raid buff before arena |
| 14:54.26 | Redguard | mana pots are essential |
| 14:54.33 | Lopeppeppy | jaxdahl2, I live on blue koolaid... as an officer I never get a shadow priest, so I'm on my own for mana, sink or swim. |
| 14:55.10 | vapid | mana regen procs are raid wide in wotlk, aren't they? |
| 14:55.21 | Lopeppeppy | Haven't gotten to test how those will help me, vapid. |
| 14:56.57 | alestane | vapid: shadow priests, survival hunters and ret pallies all have the ability to boost raid-wide mana regen, although only from the bottom up. |
| 14:59.31 | Mundy | i hope druid/war combo gets pulled back into line in wrath |
| 14:59.54 | Redguard | what do you mean |
| 15:00.12 | Mundy | it's too hard to counter, compared to other combos |
| 15:00.19 | Redguard | druid rogue counters :P |
| 15:00.42 | Mundy | you dont see alot of druid/rogues in the top 20 though |
| 15:00.52 | Redguard | sure you do |
| 15:00.56 | Redguard | it's a strong comp |
| 15:01.15 | Mundy | http://www.arenajunkies.com/rankings/2v2/ |
| 15:01.16 | Redguard | maybe not as stout against random comps as druid war, but still very strong |
| 15:01.34 | Mundy | its strong |
| 15:01.39 | Mundy | but war/druid is stronget |
| 15:01.44 | Mundy | -t +r |
| 15:02.27 | Redguard | 16, 19, 20 |
| 15:02.36 | Redguard | depends on comp you face |
| 15:02.38 | Mundy | now count the war/druids =) |
| 15:02.49 | Redguard | that just shows druid war is more popular |
| 15:02.56 | Mundy | hmm |
| 15:03.04 | Mundy | i guess, but its popularfor a reason |
| 15:03.08 | Redguard | druid war vs druid hunter is a long match |
| 15:03.18 | Redguard | I will end a druid rogue vs druid hunter game in less than 4 minutes |
| 15:03.24 | Redguard | in favor of druid rogue |
| 15:03.53 | Redguard | certain teams such as ret pally <insert other dps here> |
| 15:04.03 | Redguard | you'd favor the warrior for their armor |
| 15:04.45 | Redguard | or even druid war teams |
| 15:04.57 | Redguard | vs druid rogue, we've ended games in less than 2 minutes |
| 15:05.05 | Redguard | warrior gets bursted so bad the druid can't keep up |
| 15:05.14 | Redguard | then the druid gets wrecked and a switch back to the warrior kills him |
| 15:05.30 | foxlit | I wonder if there's a better implementation of http://pastey.net/97683 |
| 15:05.34 | Beladona | I dont get why people keep saying Shamans are fine with mana regen in beta |
| 15:05.43 | Redguard | dunno |
| 15:05.45 | Redguard | water shield? |
| 15:05.56 | Beladona | people are like "my mp5 is great! with my current gear I have a lot" |
| 15:06.13 | Mundy | perhaps they mean great in comparison to level 70 |
| 15:06.13 | Beladona | in other words, yeah once we start getting the raid gear it goes up, which makes us totally gear dependant |
| 15:06.31 | Beladona | but when 3.0 hits? |
| 15:06.38 | Beladona | and the pot sickness thing happens? |
| 15:06.40 | Beladona | with current gear? |
| 15:06.42 | Beladona | ouch |
| 15:07.05 | Beladona | brb |
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| 15:07.22 | Redguard | btw Mundy, look further does on that list and you see a good bit of druid rogue |
| 15:07.29 | Mundy | yeah |
| 15:07.33 | Redguard | the difference between those positions is minor in points |
| 15:07.34 | Mundy | im not saying its a bad combo |
| 15:07.36 | Redguard | it's 1 game difference |
| 15:07.42 | Mundy | true |
| 15:07.44 | Redguard | so you can't rank team 12, against 15, etc |
| 15:07.49 | Redguard | 1 game is nothing |
| 15:08.04 | Redguard | i've had spouts of 3 4 5 games that can all go wrong, then the next 20 go great |
| 15:08.13 | Mundy | could mean the difference between having a nether drake, and not having one =p |
| 15:08.16 | Mundy | yeah |
| 15:08.19 | Redguard | hehe |
| 15:08.19 | Mundy | case in point, this week |
| 15:08.26 | Mundy | lost like 8 straight |
| 15:08.32 | Mundy | where the week before in the same rating |
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| 15:08.39 | Mundy | went about 10-4 |
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| 15:09.57 | Redguard | i've druid druid lock warrior and rogue, i personally prefer druid rogue |
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| 15:10.11 | Redguard | although I've only done druid war up to 1950 this season for fun |
| 15:10.15 | Unregistered | dios!! |
| 15:10.26 | Unregistered | wat is cosmos about?? |
| 15:10.28 | Redguard | so I don't know, I still like w/ a rogue |
| 15:10.59 | Redguard | mr cogwheel.. have any experience with building .m2 files for use in game? |
| 15:11.22 | mi | olle abeis ablao arguna ves español? |
| 15:11.24 | cogwheel | nop |
| 15:11.29 | Redguard | :/ |
| 15:11.39 | mi | Por k pareceis todos maricones |
| 15:11.40 | mi | xD |
| 15:11.56 | Redguard | quiet mi |
| 15:12.14 | mi | Adios gentuza |
| 15:12.23 | mi | lol pinkguard |
| 15:12.26 | mi | xD |
| 15:12.52 | pinkguard | ! |
| 15:12.57 | vapid | o.O |
| 15:12.58 | pinkguard | ^^ |
| 15:13.07 | Redguard | immitation is the greatest form of flattery |
| 15:13.17 | pinkguard | no shit! |
| 15:13.26 | pinkguard | sherlock >.< |
| 15:13.43 | pinkguard | GAYS!! |
| 15:13.54 | vapid | ...interesting |
| 15:14.03 | Redguard | the correct response would be "keep digging holmes" |
| 15:14.06 | Redguard | :) |
| 15:15.07 | Redguard | does the guy who made dr tracker happen to come here |
| 15:15.13 | cogwheel | who made dr tracker? |
| 15:15.23 | Redguard | let me look it up real quick, he responded to one of my threads |
| 15:16.12 | Redguard | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:16.12 | Redguard | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:16.12 | Redguard | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:16.29 | Redguard | " Author Shadowed " |
| 15:16.47 | Redguard | he made afflicted i believe |
| 15:17.02 | cogwheel | ~seen mayen |
| 15:17.07 | purl | i haven't seen 'mayen', cogwheel |
| 15:17.13 | Redguard | ~seen shadowed |
| 15:17.14 | purl | shadowed is currently on #wowprogramming (5h 14m 42s) #wowuidev (5h 14m 42s) #wowace (5h 14m 42s), last said: 'at the Localize* in Achievements'. |
| 15:17.15 | cogwheel | or is it Shadowed |
| 15:17.19 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=6178087801&sid=1&pageNo=1#3 <-wtf |
| 15:17.53 | Redguard | appears he might be under the name shadowed on here |
| 15:17.57 | cogwheel | ~poke Fisker- |
| 15:17.58 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Fisker-, pokes Fisker- repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 15:17.59 | Shadowed | mmmm? |
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| 15:18.07 | Redguard | Shadowed, you wrote dr tracker yea? |
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| 15:18.10 | Shadowed | yes |
| 15:18.26 | Fisker- | stop poking me or i'll puke all over you |
| 15:18.28 | Redguard | i've been working on some addons which seem to cross paths with some of your addons |
| 15:18.45 | Redguard | are you porting yours for wotlk |
| 15:19.03 | Redguard | i'm not sure if i should keep working on it as is, or if it's worth trying to port some of it work your work |
| 15:19.14 | Shadowed | Yes, all of my addons will be updated for WoTLK |
| 15:19.15 | Fisker- | ~puke cogwheel |
| 15:19.16 | purl | ACTION , while sick, attempts to make it to the porcelain god and pukes all over harleypig |
| 15:19.22 | Fisker- | >:E |
| 15:20.07 | Redguard | any interest in having another developer work with you on your arena addons |
| 15:20.14 | Shadowed | Which? |
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| 15:20.34 | Redguard | my idea for my addon suite right now is to replace proximo , dr tracker, interrupt and cc tracker |
| 15:20.44 | Shadowed | You mean an all in one addon? |
| 15:20.45 | Redguard | be an all in one arena addon |
| 15:20.53 | Redguard | well, all built to work with each other |
| 15:21.03 | Redguard | but smaller addons thrown together in a suite |
| 15:21.10 | Redguard | so they can all build off each other's known functions |
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| 15:21.49 | Redguard | i'm not sure if this is a goal or area you've tried to hit or what you do with afflicted etc |
| 15:21.54 | Redguard | I've never used it, but I've heard of it |
| 15:23.30 | p3lim | Im looking for someone to take over development on two plugins ive made |
| 15:23.47 | p3lim | I do not use them myself, so I wouldnt maintain them |
| 15:24.12 | Shane|Work | p3lim: which ones, for oUF? |
| 15:24.18 | p3lim | for pMinimap |
| 15:24.34 | p3lim | atleast _ZoneTip, not yet sure about _Coords |
| 15:24.55 | Shane|Work | p3lim: oh, sorry, I don't use them either, just _clock and pstats |
| 15:25.09 | p3lim | ok |
| 15:25.26 | p3lim | pStats doesnt really have anything to do with pMinimap tho |
| 15:25.35 | p3lim | (I really need decent names for my addons) |
| 15:25.35 | Industrial | maybe haste wants to |
| 15:25.40 | p3lim | lol! |
| 15:26.14 | Shane|Work | p3lim: yeah, i thought of that after I mentioned it, but they're all kind of a collective addon in my mind |
| 15:26.25 | Shane|Work | I have a set of tekkub's stuff, a set of yours, and a set of haste's |
| 15:26.33 | p3lim | :p |
| 15:26.45 | p3lim | all addons that is originally tek |
| 15:26.54 | p3lim | all addons that is originally tek's ive modified at some point :p |
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| 15:30.56 | ShaneSveller | well, sadly, HydraIRC is a decent client for windows but I still much prefer Colloquoy =P |
| 15:31.04 | Industrial | irssi! |
| 15:31.09 | Industrial | + screen |
| 15:31.29 | Castigo | i just whish there was mIRC for mac tbh |
| 15:31.41 | alestane | I have no problem with Colloquy. |
| 15:31.45 | Industrial | Anyone know what runtime library contains MSVCR71.DLL? I'm getting a missing error. I dont want to just download it from dll-files.com and place it on my system. It's undoubtedly part of some .net runtime or something and I'd just screw my system by only satisfying one dependency. |
| 15:32.03 | Castigo | i've no probs either with colloquy but i don't like it |
| 15:32.21 | p3lim | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=103648#post103648 |
| 15:35.03 | Lopeppeppy | Industrial, I love Process Info. http://process-info.org/msvcr71-dll |
| 15:35.18 | ShaneSveller | p3lim: Statistician or Datum for pStats? |
| 15:35.56 | Castigo | Industrial: msvc2003 runtime dll |
| 15:35.57 | ShaneSveller | personally i have nothing against pWhatever |
| 15:36.00 | Industrial | Lopeppeppy: yeah but is that .NET 1.0, 2.0, 3.0 or 3.5 ;) |
| 15:36.29 | ShaneSveller | Industrial: 1 or 2, I imagine, I'd lean towards 1 because I've been hearing of problems with that dll for years |
| 15:36.48 | Lopeppeppy | Oh jeez, Industrial, keep on googling for it! *poke* Lazy bum |
| 15:37.19 | Industrial | im on page 6! |
| 15:37.43 | zenzelezz | Industrial: it isn't part of the .NET runtime |
| 15:37.56 | ShaneSveller | Industrial: it's been an existing problem since Win98 was in use: http://forums.techguy.org/windows-95-98-me/486505-solved-windows-problem-missing-msvcr71.html |
| 15:37.58 | zenzelezz | MSVCR is the generic MS C runtime library |
| 15:38.23 | zenzelezz | concindentally version 7.1. The IDE was called 2003.NET |
| 15:38.38 | Industrial | :P |
| 15:39.05 | vapid | MSVCR stands for microsoft visual c runtime |
| 15:39.08 | vapid | if you were curious |
| 15:39.13 | Industrial | nope |
| 15:39.15 | Industrial | :3 |
| 15:39.18 | Redguard | lol |
| 15:39.40 | durcyn | make sure you get vbrun300.dll and threed.ocx too. |
| 15:39.51 | durcyn | </sarcasm> |
| 15:39.52 | zenzelezz | good old threed.ocx |
| 15:40.03 | RockSlice | Is there an API call to check whether a hardware event is active? |
| 15:40.13 | RockSlice | (in wow, not MSVCR) |
| 15:40.20 | Redguard | be more vague? |
| 15:40.24 | Redguard | what event |
| 15:40.30 | zenzelezz | that's not vague actually |
| 15:40.42 | Redguard | sure it is |
| 15:40.46 | RockSlice | any, for the purposes of using a function that requires a hardware event |
| 15:40.52 | zenzelezz | no. A hardware event is not any specific event |
| 15:41.10 | Industrial | see thats why i like this channel :P better help then ##windows ^^ |
| 15:41.22 | Redguard | RockSlice that type of low level access generally is denied from a high level scripting enviroment in WOW |
| 15:41.57 | Redguard | blizzard can do it - you can't (legally under ToS) |
| 15:41.58 | RockSlice | so there's no way to tell except by trying a function that requires it and watching it fail (which most do silently)? |
| 15:42.10 | Redguard | you are still being vague |
| 15:42.18 | Redguard | the most detailed definition you've given is the word "it" |
| 15:42.22 | Redguard | which again, is vague |
| 15:43.43 | RockSlice | right now, what I want to do requires two button pushes, a "search" push, and a "confirm" push, because there's a lag between the first buttonpush and the item being available |
| 15:44.31 | RockSlice | If the item is already available on the first buttonpush, however, I don't want to have to have the confirm button needed |
| 15:44.47 | Redguard | what is "the item" ? |
| 15:44.55 | RockSlice | any item at auction |
| 15:45.02 | Redguard | ok |
| 15:45.51 | Redguard | I have not dealt with the AH section of the game, but I imagine if you keep explaining others will pick up on the issue |
| 15:45.55 | Redguard | and help if available |
| 15:46.15 | RockSlice | the AH isn't really relevant. I know the AH functions well |
| 15:46.38 | RockSlice | I'm asking about whether I can check whether a protected function is allowed to run |
| 15:46.52 | Redguard | which function in question? |
| 15:47.02 | Redguard | I do not know the answer to that off hand |
| 15:47.16 | RockSlice | k |
| 15:47.28 | Redguard | if you provide more information I can try to look into it though |
| 15:47.48 | Redguard | actual code might help explain your problem |
| 15:48.33 | ZorbaTHut | the auction house is not exactly a hardware event :P |
| 15:49.38 | Redguard | no it isn't which is why I'm trying to push him to stop being vague |
| 15:49.42 | Redguard | ie. don't beat around the bush |
| 15:49.50 | RockSlice | PlaceAuctionBid() is the function, if you must know, which for a while now, has required a hardware event |
| 15:49.53 | Redguard | you get the most direct answers with direct questions |
| 15:50.12 | RockSlice | if there's no hardware event, nothing happens when the function gets called |
| 15:50.38 | RockSlice | I thought I was being direct. I want to know if there is a function to check whether a hardware event is active |
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| 15:51.04 | Gnarfoz | there is not |
| 15:51.15 | RockSlice | tyvm, Gnarfoz |
| 15:51.18 | Gnarfoz | and if you think about it, you'd quickly figure out why |
| 15:51.29 | Gnarfoz | that'd allow automation ;> |
| 15:51.53 | Slakah | as for your question on protected functions, use InCombatLockdown() |
| 15:52.04 | RockSlice | that's different |
| 15:52.04 | Gnarfoz | that's not what this is about oO |
| 15:52.29 | Slakah | ok |
| 15:52.35 | Gnarfoz | RockSlice: maybe check AuctioneerAdvanced's EasyBuyout module, too. it has shift-klick buyout and double-click bid features |
| 15:52.44 | Gnarfoz | dunno if that will help you in any way, though |
| 15:52.48 | Slakah | I just read "I'm asking about whether I can check whether a protected function is allowed to run" :P |
| 15:52.52 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: holy paladins are fucked :< |
| 15:52.56 | RockSlice | it won't. the item is already on the page for that |
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| 15:53.01 | Fisker- | no shit Gnarfoz |
| 15:53.06 | Gnarfoz | Slakah: yeah, and you seemingly are not aware what 'protected functions' are ;) |
| 15:53.18 | Slakah | clearly |
| 15:53.31 | Fisker- | we can lolret though Gnarfoz |
| 15:53.41 | Gnarfoz | we can? I think we'll have to :( |
| 15:53.47 | RockSlice | Slakah: that would be "Secure functions", for the combat lockdown |
| 15:54.10 | Fisker- | good point Gnarfoz >:3 |
| 15:54.10 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: or AoE tank like... real mad! |
| 15:54.39 | Gnarfoz | Holy Shield, Consecrate, Hammer of the Righteous... repeat~ |
| 15:55.20 | Fisker- | i hate tanking |
| 15:55.22 | Fisker- | and i hate you |
| 15:55.43 | Gnarfoz | I wuv u :3 |
| 15:55.49 | Fisker- | ok |
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| 15:56.30 | p3lim | Shane|Work: but I do :p |
| 15:58.24 | Redguard | anyone familiar with the 3.x changes to stun resist |
| 15:58.44 | Redguard | is it now going to be a stun duration reduction instead of full resist? |
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| 16:02.33 | ScytheBlade1 | MS needs to stop inventing internet standards :/ |
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| 16:03.43 | Redguard | proper solution - don't use them |
| 16:04.13 | ScytheBlade1 | That's only as proper as all of the random clients who use IE visit said site |
| 16:04.32 | ScytheBlade1 | http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/10/06/updates-for-ajax-in-ie8-beta-2.aspx |
| 16:04.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Stupid pricks adding HTTP headers and more JS calls everywhere |
| 16:06.15 | Redguard | hehe |
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| 16:18.31 | Lopeppeppy | One more sleeps!! |
| 16:18.50 | Seerah|away | 3 more sleeps!! |
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| 16:20.17 | zenzelezz | there's something strangely arousing about hearing the girls all talk about sleeping |
| 16:20.48 | Lopeppeppy | Sleep is for the weak. |
| 16:23.41 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, me too. |
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| 16:23.57 | kd3 | hug <3 |
| 16:24.02 | kd3 | raaaah, wtb caffeine |
| 16:24.07 | p3lim | idd |
| 16:24.13 | Lopeppeppy | Sorry, just finished the mountain dew |
| 16:24.38 | Redguard | caffeine is bad for digestion :/ |
| 16:24.50 | haste | that dependts |
| 16:25.06 | Redguard | i don't think so |
| 16:25.10 | Seerah | *snap!* *sh!* *ahhh!* |
| 16:25.19 | Seerah | mmm diet coke |
| 16:25.23 | haste | but it does |
| 16:25.32 | Redguard | proof |
| 16:25.51 | Lopeppeppy | I don't digest it, I live on it!! |
| 16:26.38 | haste | you get it intravenously too? |
| 16:26.47 | Seerah | liquid life |
| 16:27.27 | Lopeppeppy | The dew is the life |
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| 16:29.45 | Redguard | does that line even make sense |
| 16:29.49 | Redguard | "soufron hello" ? |
| 16:30.12 | Redguard | hello is now a verb :o |
| 16:30.37 | alestane | Verbing weirds language. |
| 16:31.50 | Lopeppeppy | What word can be used as all parts of speech? *wink* |
| 16:33.07 | Redguard | fuck is a pretty universal word which fits in with all parts of speech and has a rich history |
| 16:33.17 | kneeki | Redguard: Agreed ;) |
| 16:33.29 | alestane | The one I'm thinking of has to be put into another form before it works as an adjective or adverb. |
| 16:33.31 | kneeki | I loved that .mp3 |
| 16:33.39 | Redguard | hehe |
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| 16:38.18 | cogwheel | hmm... my new food/knife obsession has turned up some interesting finds... http://www.knifeforums.com/forums/showtopic.php?tid/833376/ (if you follow enough links it'll become NSFW) |
| 16:40.30 | Castigo | i was looking for when am i gonna replace my t6 chest in wotlk and i found this http://austin.craigslist.org/tag/819790362.html WTF |
| 16:43.52 | selckin | whats so wierd about that |
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| 16:54.24 | Tornhoof | is it possible to find out which string placeholders (the ones from globalstrings.lua) are used in a tooltip? |
| 16:55.05 | Industrial | ah man, food smells so nice when you are hungry |
| 16:55.10 | Industrial | :D~~~ |
| 16:56.10 | cogwheel | Tornhoof: do tooltips even use globalstrings.lua? I thought their contents were generated C-side |
| 16:57.17 | Tornhoof | i actually thought some kind of template is generated serverside which is then filled by strings on the client |
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| 16:58.18 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa! |
| 16:58.23 | cogwheel | ... STATION!! |
| 16:58.25 | Lunessa | Peppy! |
| 16:58.28 | Lunessa | STATION! |
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| 16:58.43 | Tornhoof | either way, there is no way to tell wow to give me the tooltips in language x is there? |
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| 16:59.03 | cogwheel | NOPE |
| 16:59.06 | cogwheel | sry caps |
| 16:59.08 | AckisWork | blizzcon people... how big is room 204? |
| 16:59.16 | Lunessa | Tornhoof: You pretty much have ALL or NOTHING when it comes to language. |
| 16:59.16 | Lopeppeppy | Never big enough? |
| 16:59.36 | cogwheel | didn't the ui panel fill up the room last year? |
| 16:59.36 | AckisWork | Lopeppeppy: so I need to get my fat ass there fast |
| 16:59.48 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. |
| 16:59.48 | Tornhoof | duh |
| 17:00.50 | AckisWork | is hall C big enough for everyone? |
| 17:01.14 | AckisWork | <-- never been to blizzcon or even a gaming convention :P |
| 17:01.36 | cogwheel | it looks like they've allocated more floor space for chairs this year |
| 17:01.45 | cogwheel | for the main stage |
| 17:02.07 | cogwheel | some of the more popular items on the schedule last year were standing room only |
| 17:02.20 | cogwheel | but they've got projectors set up and decent sound so you don't really miss much |
| 17:02.21 | AckisWork | ahh |
| 17:02.44 | jaxdahl2 | the halls are massive |
| 17:02.49 | cogwheel | ^ |
| 17:02.49 | AckisWork | diablo 3 is going against wow UI so... that'll be interesting |
| 17:02.56 | jaxdahl2 | the rooms are on the upper floor and are a fair size |
| 17:03.20 | jaxdahl2 | there are chairs, you'll want to get in for a good view of the slideshows if that's what you want to see |
| 17:03.28 | jaxdahl2 | in the upper rooms. |
| 17:03.51 | AckisWork | I'm just worried about my knee :P |
| 17:03.52 | jaxdahl2 | there's screens all over the halls so you don't necessarily need to be in the dev panel hall to see what's going on |
| 17:04.07 | jaxdahl2 | there's escalators |
| 17:04.14 | jaxdahl2 | and chairs. |
| 17:04.21 | AckisWork | I'd like to see the UI panel to heckle the devs ;) |
| 17:04.38 | Kaso | http://img.waffleimages.com/de857bcdd07cb3eaf9c34e5dad729b01b5db9c07/LereahNotBust.jpg |
| 17:05.34 | AckisWork | so what's the best way to plan for the event? do I worry about meeting up with people or just hang out with my group/solo? |
| 17:05.48 | Lopeppeppy | Yes! |
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| 17:06.06 | AckisWork | yes to which? lol |
| 17:06.06 | Lunessa | If you're really freaked out about not finding people, make sure someone has your cell number. |
| 17:06.13 | jaxdahl2 | if you are a fair looking female, please be scantily clad |
| 17:06.22 | AckisWork | well I'll be at the constanzo hotel so I'll meet a bunch of you there |
| 17:06.30 | AckisWork | jaxdahl2: I'll wear a wig for you |
| 17:07.06 | Lunessa | Ackis - remember to shave your legs and tuck dearie. |
| 17:07.11 | cogwheel | We should all get headbands with floating nameplates above our heads :P |
| 17:07.19 | AckisWork | I always tuck ;) |
| 17:07.20 | AckisWork | lol cog |
| 17:08.07 | cogwheel | :) |
| 17:08.24 | AckisWork | I'm just debating on if I should bring lipstick for you to give me a kiss imprint :P |
| 17:09.17 | Lunessa | Well, cog is an attractive young man, there's no denying that. But his wife will insist on video taping any kissing. |
| 17:09.20 | cogwheel | you could probably convince my wife to convince me to... |
| 17:09.48 | Thunder_Child | his wife? i would insist... |
| 17:10.01 | Lunessa | Hah |
| 17:10.03 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah. |
| 17:10.09 | Lopeppeppy | I'll just watch from this corner where alestane put me. |
| 17:10.45 | AckisWork | lol |
| 17:12.26 | Esamynn | Lopeppeppy: now now, behave yourself |
| 17:12.50 | Lunessa | That's why she's in the corner. She's behaving. |
| 17:13.02 | AckisWork | has anything else been announced about the goody bag? ie: tcg card, minature thingy, etc? |
| 17:13.22 | Esamynn | no |
| 17:14.26 | Lopeppeppy | Exactly, Lunessa. |
| 17:14.58 | cogwheel | AckisWork: historically they haven't announced the other stuff iirc |
| 17:17.27 | AckisWork | cogwheel: they normally didn't announce the ingame item either right? |
| 17:17.40 | cogwheel | they did |
| 17:18.07 | cogwheel | murky and the murloc costume were announced and were actually one of my wife's justifications for going >< |
| 17:18.14 | cogwheel | s/one/two |
| 17:18.18 | AckisWork | haha |
| 17:18.31 | zenzelezz | "Come on Cog, wear the costume, pleeeease?" |
| 17:18.35 | Lopeppeppy | .... |
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| 17:18.57 | NightHawkTheSane | zenzelezz: im sure she doesn't have to beg, really |
| 17:19.31 | Lopeppeppy | But. |
| 17:19.35 | Lopeppeppy | But. |
| 17:19.39 | Lopeppeppy | *sniffle* |
| 17:20.08 | alestane | You can stay there if you really want to... |
| 17:20.20 | Lopeppeppy | Play go fish with me and it's a deal. |
| 17:20.36 | alestane | Got any 20s? |
| 17:20.52 | Lopeppeppy | Nope, go fish. |
| 17:20.58 | Lopeppeppy | Got any aces of spades? |
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| 17:21.30 | Lopeppeppy | Yay! |
| 17:21.32 | alestane | And a bluegill. |
| 17:21.37 | Lopeppeppy | Um.... do you have any non-fish cards? |
| 17:21.50 | alestane | ...but you told me to! |
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| 17:24.37 | Lopeppeppy | I said go fish, I didn't say "gief me fishez" |
| 17:24.55 | Lunessa | Lunessa needs one of these hoodies. http://www.pennyarcademerch.com/pah070071.html |
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| 17:27.10 | Jelly-School | ~hug Peppy |
| 17:27.10 | purl | ACTION hugs Peppy |
| 17:27.51 | cogwheel | Jelly-School: HAI http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/NGS/Shared/StaticFiles/Photography/Images/POD/s/school-sea-nettles-1081595-xl.jpg |
| 17:28.10 | Jelly-School | lol <3 |
| 17:29.02 | Thunder_Child | massive grain |
| 17:29.47 | Jelly-School | So I decided today that I'm an asshole. This isn't my first realization of this however I knocked over a girl's CAN (not, not resealable) of Monster that was put precariously on the desk in front of her and afterward, I instinctively just said "Grats on bringing a can to class" |
| 17:30.04 | Lopeppeppy | That's not nice, nope. |
| 17:30.22 | Lunessa | Jelly, did she say "GG" or "QQ"? |
| 17:30.26 | Jelly-School | s/not,/note,/ |
| 17:30.28 | Thunder_Child | was that supposed to be funny? |
| 17:30.47 | Jelly-School | She QQ'd and was a bitch to me for the rest of the class, which I admit that I deserved. |
| 17:31.27 | jaxdahl2 | i would've said "nice can*cough*s" |
| 17:31.52 | Thunder_Child | i would have said sorry... |
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| 17:32.16 | Jelly-School | So you too see the problem. |
| 17:33.54 | Thunder_Child | i can see being an ass about it, i just dont understand why you said what you did |
| 17:34.35 | Jelly-School | You apparently missed the word "instinctively" |
| 17:34.36 | Lunessa | It means that he's steeped in "insult you for being lame" culture from raiding guilds. |
| 17:34.56 | Jelly-School | ON A PVP SERVER NO LESS |
| 17:35.01 | Jelly-School | God, I need to transfer |
| 17:37.37 | Lunessa | Working in the service industry doesn't do much to help you overcome the seething rage either. |
| 17:37.52 | Jelly-School | Hey Lunessa, you should make horde imo. |
| 17:38.00 | Jelly-School | ...and we can all play with Shirik. |
| 17:38.06 | Lopeppeppy | ... |
| 17:38.07 | Castigo | Daniele25 |
| 17:38.13 | Lunessa | I have several horde toons. I just never play them. |
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| 17:38.43 | Jelly-School | Hey Peppy, you should make horde imo. |
| 17:38.49 | Jelly-School | ...and we cal all play with Shirik |
| 17:38.51 | Lopeppeppy | Has some, it's very nice. |
| 17:39.25 | Lunessa | Heh, I would probably just roll another troll shaman. |
| 17:39.43 | Lunessa | But I will be doing a horde DK in the expansion. |
| 17:39.58 | Jelly-School | Well, at least we all can reach across the aisle. |
| 17:40.08 | Jelly-School | orly? |
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| 17:40.41 | Jelly-School | By the way, I heard 3.XX is rolling out today? T/F? |
| 17:40.41 | Neuro_Medivh | F |
| 17:40.44 | Nom- | F |
| 17:40.48 | Nom- | Next week (most likely) |
| 17:41.00 | Jelly-School | kk |
| 17:41.13 | Nom- | Today should have the last set of pre-seeded content I suspect |
| 17:41.50 | Nom- | And given the US realms are already up from maint and I had no patch |
| 17:41.55 | Nom- | That's 100% confirmation that it's not today |
| 17:42.58 | Jelly-School | Ahh. |
| 17:42.59 | Jelly-School | WTB being home. :( |
| 17:43.17 | Castigo | any reason why WorldFrame:ClearAllPoints() doesn't work btw? |
| 17:43.31 | Castigo | i still have my worldframe resized to my ui space |
| 17:44.15 | Castigo | found it :P |
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| 17:49.05 | nevcairiel | anyone good with licenses, GPL in particular? Does the GPL somehow limit you what libraries you can use, alas can you use a liibrary which license is not compatible with the GPL, or even completly closed? |
| 17:49.23 | nevcairiel | I never though it would, because its silly, but someone claimed it does |
| 17:49.49 | Nom- | umm it depends |
| 17:49.55 | Nom- | LGPL is generally used for libraries |
| 17:50.04 | Lunessa | I'm not a lawyer, and I don't even play one in an MMO. The best bet is to read the license for both items and see what they say. |
| 17:50.05 | Nom- | Which doesn't have any limitation (because it's a library) |
| 17:50.39 | nevcairiel | Well the issue was brought up, if my addon is GPL, i am not allowed to use a library that is NOT compatible to the GPL? |
| 17:50.44 | Nom- | LGPL is basically, you can use it in your own application, but if you make a modified version of that library, you are required to release the source |
| 17:51.30 | cogwheel | nevcairiel: i'm pretty sure that's alright because your code isn't actually incorporating the library into itself |
| 17:51.37 | nevcairiel | thats what i though |
| 17:51.41 | nevcairiel | *thought |
| 17:52.00 | cogwheel | in the case of applications, when you compile your code, a bit of the library is physically included in your exe |
| 17:52.04 | Esamynn | cogwheel: but if his AddOn requires the GPL library to work, then yes, I think his addon has to be GPL too |
| 17:52.10 | cogwheel | (or all of it in the case of static linked) |
| 17:52.46 | nevcairiel | Esamynn: its the other way around, the addon is GPL, the Lib is not, someone is now claiming that i violate the GPL of my own addon by using it o.O |
| 17:52.50 | Esamynn | it's a little, fuzzy in the AddOn world |
| 17:53.01 | Esamynn | oh |
| 17:53.18 | zenzelezz | wait, what... you have to give away 1000g to get the "of the Shattered Sun" title? |
| 17:53.21 | cogwheel | nevcairiel: that's like saying a linux distro isn't allowed to include non-free software imo |
| 17:53.24 | Esamynn | nevcairiel: you cannot violate the GPL of your own addon |
| 17:53.26 | Nom- | What license is on the library ? |
| 17:53.29 | NightHawkTheSane | zenzelezz: yes |
| 17:53.36 | zenzelezz | screw that |
| 17:53.37 | Esamynn | zenzelezz: yup |
| 17:53.46 | NightHawkTheSane | cause 1000g is so hard to get. :p |
| 17:53.49 | Esamynn | lol |
| 17:53.58 | nevcairiel | Nom-: its not OSS compatible |
| 17:54.05 | zenzelezz | I don't care how easy it is, I don't value the title that much |
| 17:54.18 | NightHawkTheSane | then don't buy it? :) |
| 17:54.20 | zenzelezz | I'd much rather keep giving away my gold to friends, like I've done so far with ~14k |
| 17:54.27 | Esamynn | nevcairiel: doesn't matter, the GPL doesn't apply to what you do with your code |
| 17:54.36 | nevcairiel | I thought as much |
| 17:54.56 | Esamynn | nevcairiel: best to include a note that the library isn't covered under the GPL though |
| 17:55.46 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: For some people it's beats trying to get raids accomplished to earn a title. |
| 17:55.46 | Esamynn | and you should say that you give express permission for this one exception |
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| 17:56.20 | Nom- | As a general rule, as long as you don't distribute the non-OSS library with your addon, you're fine |
| 17:56.37 | Nom- | So you can basically tell the user, to install, go to this web site and download such-and-such |
| 17:56.52 | Nom- | It's bundling that library in your download (without permission) that can get you in hot water |
| 17:57.00 | zenzelezz | Lunessa: others are free to do as they please, I just didn't know the SSO was such greedy bastards |
| 17:57.04 | Nom- | Although why someone would get all up in arms over a little Lua addon, I don't know |
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| 17:57.54 | NightHawkTheSane | zenzelezz: eh, compared to the other titles available, just paying 1,000g is probably comparable |
| 17:58.09 | selckin | 1k gold is notting |
| 17:58.13 | Jelly-School | WTB Doctor Jelly. |
| 17:58.15 | selckin | either do it or don't, stop complaining |
| 17:58.27 | Nom- | I wish I could get 1000g for nothing :P |
| 17:58.37 | Nom- | I've got 3 character who still need epic mounts |
| 17:58.38 | Nom- | ! |
| 17:58.49 | NightHawkTheSane | ~comfort Nom- |
| 17:58.50 | purl | There, there, Nom-. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 17:58.53 | zenzelezz | I've already killed gods know how many demons, freed murlocs, all kinds of crap, and in addition to this they want my gold back. I don't hold with their ideals :-p |
| 17:59.06 | Esamynn | Nom-: 5 days for 1kg, just do dailies |
| 17:59.12 | Esamynn | on one char |
| 17:59.15 | selckin | 5 hours. |
| 17:59.18 | selckin | max |
| 17:59.31 | Nom- | Yeah, i've just not played live for a while |
| 17:59.36 | Nom- | Come next Tuesday, i'll be hitting it hard though |
| 17:59.39 | zenzelezz | should be obvious I'm a cheap bastard. And until 3.0, prot warrior DPS isn't fast |
| 17:59.42 | Nom- | Ret pally power! |
| 17:59.45 | NightHawkTheSane | i ought to start doing dailies more, build up some cash for wrath.. |
| 18:00.11 | Esamynn | I'm sitting on about 7k gold, after having spent 1500 recently, I think i'm good |
| 18:00.22 | Duman | haha! http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10961146215&sid=2000 |
| 18:00.23 | Neuro_Medivh | Esamynn, nah, you need 20k for the Mammoth Mount |
| 18:00.25 | selckin | 40k left, spend like 15 last week |
| 18:00.37 | Esamynn | selckin: you have no life :P |
| 18:00.38 | Nom- | nah it's all pvp tokens now, nevcairiel |
| 18:00.40 | Nom- | Neuro_Medivh: |
| 18:00.46 | selckin | Esamynn: agreed =) |
| 18:00.50 | Nom- | well, that'd be the only way i'd buy it... |
| 18:00.52 | NightHawkTheSane | I've only got ~5.7k total, i think. *shrug* i just lose interest when I'm not working towards something |
| 18:00.53 | zenzelezz | I've handed away 14k gold to friends, but refuse to spend 5000 on epic flyer skill |
| 18:01.22 | Esamynn | zenzelezz: you're a fool |
| 18:01.27 | Esamynn | spend it, you'll never regret it |
| 18:01.29 | Nom- | omg that's awesome, Duman |
| 18:01.35 | Dashkal | Oh this is funny: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/24/10961146215-kelthuzad-mc--hysteria.html |
| 18:01.43 | Dashkal | KT self-pwned himself |
| 18:01.44 | zenzelezz | Esamynn: I thought my name gave that away a long time ago |
| 18:02.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Duman: awesome |
| 18:02.18 | Esamynn | zenzelezz: I dunno what your name means :P |
| 18:02.22 | Duman | dash I just posted that, pay attention ;) |
| 18:02.31 | Dashkal | Duman: bah! |
| 18:02.36 | Neuro_Medivh | Dashkal, that's so 2 minutes ago |
| 18:03.02 | Esamynn | oh god, that's AWESOME |
| 18:03.09 | Esamynn | the KT MC bug |
| 18:03.18 | Industrial | BAM http://www.speedtest.net/result/335208195.png |
| 18:03.36 | Nom- | wow |
| 18:03.42 | Nom- | there's a tree form aura stack? |
| 18:03.43 | Esamynn | that's nuts |
| 18:03.45 | Nom- | 300% +heal |
| 18:04.03 | Esamynn | O_o what? |
| 18:04.17 | Nom- | apparently |
| 18:04.17 | Industrial | wtf |
| 18:04.20 | Nom- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10544540985&sid=2000 |
| 18:04.48 | Nom- | no hotfix, just patch |
| 18:04.49 | Nom- | fair enough |
| 18:04.53 | ScytheBlade1 | http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/new-in-labs-stop-sending-mail-you-later.html |
| 18:05.39 | ShaneSveller | Industrial: holy crap |
| 18:05.55 | Industrial | *flex* |
| 18:06.10 | ShaneSveller | ScytheBlade1: lmao |
| 18:06.17 | Industrial | bet my bittorrent will go faster now =D |
| 18:06.20 | Nom- | only 55 Mbps ? |
| 18:06.22 | ShaneSveller | Industrial: how in the world |
| 18:06.36 | Industrial | theres 120 too |
| 18:06.37 | Nom- | I've got access to a server sitting on a 8Gbps link :P |
| 18:06.53 | Industrial | Nom-: this is my home line :P |
| 18:07.06 | Nom- | yeah i know :P |
| 18:08.10 | Nom- | lol there's another weaopn stacking bug lol |
| 18:08.11 | NeoTron | engineering enchants don't stack with nromal enchants right? |
| 18:08.22 | NeoTron | i.e http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=54999 http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=54998 |
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| 18:08.56 | Esamynn | NeoTron: no, only one permanent "enchant" per item |
| 18:08.57 | Nom- | debuff from coilfang mobs is causing weapon speed to reduce by 25% but increase swing damage |
| 18:09.17 | Nom- | so 100% swing speed reduction = 100% damage increase (perma stacking) |
| 18:09.26 | Esamynn | Nom-: heard that, I got nailed by a DK that hit me for 19k blood strike the other night |
| 18:09.38 | Nom- | Esamynn: That would be the *other* weapon stacking bug |
| 18:09.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Nom-: that doesn't sound nearly as exploitable |
| 18:09.51 | Nom- | Tat was hotfixed |
| 18:10.02 | Nom- | NightHawkTheSane: No... I suspect it gets reset when you zone out of coilfang |
| 18:10.04 | Esamynn | oh? |
| 18:10.04 | Nom- | Still pretty funny |
| 18:10.13 | Esamynn | same bug, isn't it |
| 18:10.20 | Nom- | http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn31/Bestofworst/THEOPCRIT.jpg |
| 18:10.27 | NeoTron | basically the engineering oens are pretty useless then |
| 18:10.32 | NeoTron | which sucks |
| 18:10.36 | Esamynn | it's the one where your swing timer goes to shit, but your instant attacks become one hit KOs |
| 18:10.37 | Nom- | It's a different bug... the one which was hotfixed could be done anywhere |
| 18:10.37 | Fisker- | wtfail NeoTron |
| 18:10.46 | NeoTron | they are worse than normal enchants |
| 18:10.48 | Fisker- | nah it's 20dps zomg |
| 18:10.51 | Esamynn | Nom-: oh, same bug, just just limited |
| 18:11.00 | Nom- | The one which was hotfixed didn't affect your swing speed |
| 18:11.05 | Esamynn | really? |
| 18:11.10 | Esamynn | oh |
| 18:11.10 | NeoTron | probablyt more like 25 DPS but I'd say that's worse than 45 AP or whatever? |
| 18:11.16 | NeoTron | I frankly don't know, I guess it might be similar |
| 18:11.22 | Esamynn | I thought it did |
| 18:11.33 | Nom- | And you could do it anywhere... it was weapon spec stacking (ie. those talents which cause you to gain 6% damage with 2-handers) |
| 18:11.37 | NeoTron | take into account haste and things like drums/heroism that doesn't affect the engi enchant |
| 18:11.39 | NightHawkTheSane | 45 ap... doesn't seem like it'd come out to 20-25 dps.. |
| 18:11.50 | NeoTron | the haste engi enchant is 22 haste on average |
| 18:11.52 | Nom- | By swapping between 1-hander and 2-hander, the 6% damage bonus from using a 2-hander kept stacking |
| 18:12.11 | NeoTron | but might be worth more if the use is times with thigns like hysteria and heroism |
| 18:12.20 | NeoTron | but 8s duraction is pretty crappy :-/ |
| 18:12.21 | Nom- | Do it enough times, and you'll hit for 50 million a swing AND it doesn't affect your swing speed at all |
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| 18:13.02 | Esamynn | Nom-: oh, that one I hadn't heard about |
| 18:13.22 | Nom- | Ah... I did... just in time to get 4 levels by solo farming 5-man instances |
| 18:13.30 | Esamynn | lol |
| 18:13.37 | Esamynn | wish I had heard :/ |
| 18:13.51 | Esamynn | oh wait, was that class specific? |
| 18:13.52 | Nom- | I wish I'd heard earlier... I could have got to 80 instead of 75 |
| 18:14.09 | Nom- | Any class who has + percent damage on a certain weapon |
| 18:14.12 | Nom- | worked with +crit too |
| 18:14.13 | NeoTron | Basically I'm trying to decide on professions for my DK given dps primarily, tank secondary |
| 18:14.27 | Esamynn | ok yah, wouldn't have helped me then |
| 18:14.32 | Nom- | so it worked for rogues (crit), warriors + pallies (damage) |
| 18:14.52 | NeoTron | BS socketing is pretty sick |
| 18:14.55 | Nom- | rogues could get 100% crit, or 100% chance to have a weapon swing |
| 18:14.56 | jaxdahl2 | http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot100708040137mt4.jpg lol this his hilarious |
| 18:14.56 | Nom- | or both |
| 18:15.04 | Esamynn | the swing timer one though, that works for anyone |
| 18:15.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Nom-: worked for DKs as well |
| 18:15.18 | Nom- | and since they were like +5% crit, they could stack it up real quick before an arena game |
| 18:15.25 | NeoTron | anyone know what limitations if any the socketing has? does it replace enchants, require the item to have no sockets already or? |
| 18:15.29 | Esamynn | jaxdahl2: yes, yes it is |
| 18:15.30 | Nom- | weapon damage took ages to stack |
| 18:15.59 | Nom- | i can imagine rogues being pvp machines though... 100% chance for an extra weapon swing (sword spec) and 100% chance to crit |
| 18:16.02 | Esamynn | but is more powerful in the end Nom- |
| 18:16.06 | Nom- | and that could be specced in less than 2 minutes |
| 18:16.25 | Nom- | Yeah... so rogues couldn't solo instances, but they could quickly stack for pvp |
| 18:17.55 | Lunessa | NeoTron: The sockets from blacksmithing? |
| 18:19.11 | NeoTron | yeah. seems like they do stack with enchants |
| 18:19.18 | Dashkal | Has anybody /hug ged Zel'Thuzad? |
| 18:19.19 | NeoTron | so a BS gets like 40 extra stength, 60 stamina etc |
| 18:19.20 | Dashkal | Kel* |
| 18:19.43 | kneeki | if MinimalisqueDB.HappyCoil.Sound == nil then MinimalisqueDB.HappyCoil.Sound = true end is returning the error: 'attempt to index field 'HappyCoil' (a nil value) Any ideas? |
| 18:20.05 | Lunessa | NeoTron: 1) They stack, 2) they don't replace current sockets, 3) they add a blacksmithing requirement to the item. |
| 18:20.39 | Lunessa | And you need a forge to add them. |
| 18:22.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: well, its not a BS requirement on the item, just on that socket, i think |
| 18:23.00 | Lunessa | No, on the item. |
| 18:23.11 | Lunessa | I've socketed several pieces of gear laready. :P |
| 18:23.14 | jaxdahl2 | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?achievement=2138 currently missing 'The Immortal' and 'Denyin' the Scion' |
| 18:23.16 | NightHawkTheSane | as in, you can't even equip the item without 400 BS afterwards? |
| 18:23.22 | Lunessa | Right. |
| 18:23.29 | NightHawkTheSane | hm. |
| 18:23.40 | jaxdahl2 | yep, no more grinding profs and dropping them for certain benefits |
| 18:23.44 | NeoTron | seems like one of the best profession specific perks |
| 18:24.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I kinda hope that they add a extra socket /remover/ for those who want to drop said profession... |
| 18:24.12 | Lunessa | It's pretty nice. Just like the ring enchants, or the bop trinkets from j/c. |
| 18:24.14 | ScytheBlade1 | And keep their gear |
| 18:24.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, ring enchnnts just bind |
| 18:24.27 | ScytheBlade1 | No enchanting needed |
| 18:24.29 | ScytheBlade1 | *enchants |
| 18:24.34 | NightHawkTheSane | jaxdahl: well i had assumed dropping BS would make the socket inactive, not the entire piece of equipment :pp |
| 18:24.37 | Lunessa | It's a nice perk though. |
| 18:24.52 | Lunessa | And a belt socket is schweet. |
| 18:25.37 | NeoTron | how many sockets are theer? just two right? |
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| 18:25.48 | jaxdahl2 | 2 profession specific, and one for belt |
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| 18:26.07 | jaxdahl2 | belt thingy is a tradeable item |
| 18:26.12 | NeoTron | oh really hmm |
| 18:26.25 | NeoTron | ah |
| 18:26.26 | Lunessa | Yes, but it takes Titansteel. So... |
| 18:26.31 | jaxdahl2 | not anymore |
| 18:26.32 | jaxdahl2 | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=41611 |
| 18:26.48 | Lunessa | Oh, it's not epic anymore either. |
| 18:27.22 | Lunessa | sweet. |
| 18:27.38 | Lunessa | Those sockets really extend the life of gear. |
| 18:28.06 | ScytheBlade1 | They'll help you gem towards socket bonuses too |
| 18:30.35 | Lunessa | Yes. I'm quite pleased with them. |
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| 18:34.23 | jaxdahl2 | yea, gives you flexibility for meta gems |
| 18:35.27 | jaxdahl2 | i'm still very undecided on what race i will roll for my DK on live |
| 18:35.42 | Thunder_Child | THere can be only one.... |
| 18:35.54 | jaxdahl2 | that 1% dodge night elfs get is very valuable with diminishing returns on ratings |
| 18:36.28 | jaxdahl2 | draenei +hit could be nice |
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| 18:37.27 | ScytheBlade1 | How do the diminishing returns work exactly? |
| 18:39.56 | Fisker- | I'm guessing he mean the extra requirements in ratings to get the same effect |
| 18:39.59 | Fisker- | at level 80 that is |
| 18:40.19 | ScytheBlade1 | No that's how ratings work |
| 18:40.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Now a bunch of tooltips clearly state that they have added diminishing returns |
| 18:40.37 | Fisker- | oh |
| 18:40.37 | ScytheBlade1 | And.. yeah |
| 18:40.39 | Fisker- | i dunno |
| 18:40.40 | Fisker- | >:E |
| 18:40.42 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah |
| 18:40.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Hence my curiosity |
| 18:40.56 | Fisker- | sauces? |
| 18:41.09 | ScytheBlade1 | wowcompares.com |
| 18:41.17 | ScytheBlade1 | GlobalStrings.lua, search for "diminishing" |
| 18:41.25 | Fisker- | awright |
| 18:42.02 | ScytheBlade1 | CR_DODGE_TOOLTIP = "Dodge Rating of %d adds %.2f%% Dodge|n|cff888888(Before diminishing returns)|r"; |
| 18:42.05 | ScytheBlade1 | For example |
| 18:42.09 | jaxdahl2 | yeah. |
| 18:42.25 | Fisker- | I'm guessing each dodge lowers your dodge |
| 18:42.30 | ShaneSveller | kneeki: you need to also check for HappyCoil to not be nil before you do any of that stuff, wrap it in another if |
| 18:42.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm that'd be nasty |
| 18:42.34 | Fisker- | madness though |
| 18:43.15 | jaxdahl2 | for example, there's a trinket that gives me 455 dodge rating, which would be 10.17%, but at the level of gear i'm at, it only gives me 7.93% when i'm unbuffed |
| 18:43.29 | kneeki | ShaneSveller: Yup, I had to do 'MinimalisqueDB.HappyCoil = {}' to fix the problem |
| 18:43.42 | Fisker- | Yeah jaxdahl |
| 18:43.55 | Fisker- | it's going to be similar to the tauren hp racial then |
| 18:43.55 | vapid | ahh, preventing 100% avoidance eh? |
| 18:44.05 | jaxdahl2 | vapid, 100% passive avoidance, yeah |
| 18:44.33 | jaxdahl2 | and also so they don't have to throw in a crutch like sunwell radiance later on in tier 9 raids |
| 18:44.43 | Fisker- | kinda lame actually |
| 18:44.46 | vapid | i'd imagine somewhere around 75% passive each additional normal % would give .000001% or something |
| 18:44.59 | jaxdahl2 | it's not that steep, no |
| 18:45.18 | jaxdahl2 | i can hit over 100% avoidance for a few seconds when i hit my cooldowns |
| 18:45.23 | vapid | just an example, not meaning to be representative of actual values |
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| 18:52.23 | Castigo | Uhm.... has anyone tried to disale the minimap clock by code in wotlk? seems not be working |
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| 18:52.59 | Pytlask | It's become sentient o.O It does not want to die |
| 18:53.13 | kd3 | sMM's disabled it without any problems |
| 18:53.15 | ShaneSveller | Castigo: look at pMinimap_Clock and see what p3lim did to it |
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| 18:55.54 | Castigo | will do |
| 18:55.56 | Castigo | cheers |
| 18:58.06 | Lunessa | "Once again, these decisions were the consensus of our design team, so please don't give me the credit. In fact, if there are any changes you specifically don't like -- those I had nothing to do with. :) " Ghostcrawler |
| 19:00.17 | Duman | hehe |
| 19:01.02 | Castigo | memorywise and speedwise is there any downfall of having MANY small files to accomplish small functions and many small xml? |
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| 19:01.44 | Pytlask | Will take *slightly* longer to load in the first place |
| 19:01.51 | Pytlask | but once its loaded it should be the same |
| 19:01.51 | Dewin | what Pytlask said |
| 19:02.06 | Dewin | Once it's all in memory it's all one compiled mess of code, it doesn't care how it's structured on disk |
| 19:02.28 | Pytlask | Its so slight though that if it increases readability, go for it imo |
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| 19:03.30 | Dewin | that was definitely the wrong button. |
| 19:04.20 | Mike-N-Go | Rabbitbunny: ping |
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| 19:09.27 | Mike-N-Go | ~Rabbitbunny |
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| 19:10.43 | Mike-N-Go | purl, what is Rabbitbunny |
| 19:10.43 | purl | Mike-N-Go: I think you lost me on that one |
| 19:10.49 | Mike-N-Go | purl, what is Rabbit |
| 19:10.50 | purl | Mutating, caching webproxy to speed up surfing over slow links. URL: http://www.nada.kth.se/projects/prup98/web_proxy/ |
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| 19:15.27 | jaxdahl2 | is there another debuff that acts like blood frenzy? |
| 19:15.50 | jaxdahl2 | "Physical Vulnerability Debuff: Blood Frenzy, (2nd Talent Spec TBA)" |
| 19:16.00 | jaxdahl2 | wondering if they ever announced what the 2nd talent spec was |
| 19:16.28 | Dreagar | mornin kids. ;) |
| 19:16.50 | Dashkal | jaxdahl2: second talent spec? You mean the dual-spec feature? We'll find out on the weekend (Blizzcon) |
| 19:17.44 | Pytlask | speaking of which, how many people here are going? |
| 19:18.10 | Dreagar | i really wanna get it on satelite, but i don't have directtv. :( |
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| 19:19.12 | cogwheel | Pytlask: there's 49 people (last i checked) signed up for the UI community dinner at benihana's |
| 19:19.33 | Pytlask | Yah, but could be more that aren't able to make the dinner ;) |
| 19:19.48 | cogwheel | I have directv, and i'm going. I really wanted to record it onto the DVR but Directv auto-deletes PayPerView after 24 hrs :( |
| 19:19.50 | Rabbitbunny | Mike-N-Go: pong |
| 19:20.18 | Pytlask | cogwheel: Set up a camcorder pointed at the screen >.> |
| 19:20.20 | cogwheel | Pytlask: some of the attendees aren't necessarily from "here" (significant others mostly) |
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| 19:20.36 | cogwheel | Pytlask: i'd rather not watch it at all than watch it in low def :P |
| 19:20.46 | cogwheel | but that's 'cause i'm spiteful :P |
| 19:20.47 | Adys | someone online on the beta? |
| 19:21.05 | cogwheel | I *could* record it onto VHS... but /barf |
| 19:21.15 | Dashkal | cogwheel: DirectTV left on that channel + mythTV PVR box :p |
| 19:21.21 | cogwheel | plus, my mom's housesitting and i'm sure she'd find some way to mess it all up :( |
| 19:21.27 | Pytlask | cogwheel: You just need the sound anyway! Record it on LP |
| 19:21.39 | cogwheel | wax cylinder imo |
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| 19:21.56 | Pytlask | Adys: Whatcha need? |
| 19:22.04 | Adys | a small test |
| 19:22.07 | Adys | can you do.. one sec |
| 19:22.17 | Pytlask | 1) 3+4 |
| 19:22.26 | erikd | i'm going to blizzcon! |
| 19:22.32 | erikd | but i'm not signed up for the dinner |
| 19:24.06 | Castigo | outlands and northrend down w000t |
| 19:24.14 | Castigo | now whole coldarra down lolz |
| 19:25.08 | cogwheel | ~seen matts |
| 19:25.22 | purl | matts <n=Matt@wiljewelwetenhe.xs4all.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 360d 18h 50m 7s ago, saying: 'are there frontends so manage a Linux based loadbalancer ?'. |
| 19:25.22 | Shirik|Ecole | erikd: Did you want to come? |
| 19:25.36 | cogwheel | hmm... wrong matts... |
| 19:25.38 | Shirik|Ecole | It might be too late now, but I don't really know. Cairenn's the one to ask |
| 19:25.40 | Esamynn | lol |
| 19:25.47 | Shirik|Ecole | hi Matt, I'm Matt |
| 19:25.57 | cogwheel | zomg so's Tem |
| 19:26.00 | cogwheel | :P |
| 19:26.32 | alestane | Forum maintenance? |
| 19:26.45 | Lopeppeppy | No wai. |
| 19:26.48 | Mike-N-Go | I am looking for Rabbit, the author of CraftyGnome, he around? |
| 19:27.17 | AckisWork | Mike-N-Go: join #wowace and ping vhaar |
| 19:27.27 | Mike-N-Go | Thankies. |
| 19:27.32 | AckisWork | err vhaarr |
| 19:29.45 | erikd | shirik: well, i'm going to blizzcon with my cousin and he probably wouldn't want o |
| 19:29.49 | erikd | to* |
| 19:30.14 | erikd | i'm probably going to go to the wow ui thing that's scheduled, though |
| 19:30.19 | erikd | i assume a lot of you will be there |
| 19:31.07 | Lopeppeppy | erikd, which "wow ui" thing. The panel? |
| 19:33.28 | erikd | yeah |
| 19:33.36 | erikd | forgot the term :) |
| 19:34.07 | Thunder_Child | as long as they dont fubar the schedule this year than yes |
| 19:34.11 | Lopeppeppy | I'm sure a lot of us will find out way there. |
| 19:34.15 | vapid | quick question, i saw purl do search and replace earlier. does it accept full regex? |
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| 19:34.32 | Thunder_Child | try it |
| 19:34.50 | Thunder_Child | though it doesnt like s/./// |
| 19:34.51 | vapid | s/^q/lol/ |
| 19:34.53 | Thunder_Child | for example |
| 19:35.25 | vapid | hm, it appears not |
| 19:35.36 | erikd | it's at the same time as the generic "Diablo III" panel |
| 19:35.39 | Lunessa | There are too many persons named "Matt" in this channel. |
| 19:35.44 | erikd | it's the first one on thursday |
| 19:35.47 | erikd | err, friday |
| 19:36.24 | Lopeppeppy | I'm not interested in D3, so I'll be somewhere other than D3. |
| 19:36.39 | cogwheel | i'm not |
| 19:36.41 | Thunder_Child | oh the scedule is up...win |
| 19:36.41 | cogwheel | i'm Matthew |
| 19:36.42 | Lunessa | Thank the maker. Because if you were, I'd have to seriously rethink my life peppy. |
| 19:36.50 | cogwheel | <.< >.> |
| 19:36.54 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, what? |
| 19:37.07 | Esamynn | ~clue Thunder_Child |
| 19:37.11 | cogwheel | Thunder_Child: if Lopeppeppy were a Matt |
| 19:37.17 | Esamynn | ahh darn it |
| 19:37.35 | Thunder_Child | oh..i thought about the D3 |
| 19:38.26 | Lunessa | L2Mutli-Thread-Conversations. |
| 19:38.34 | Thunder_Child | uhhh..they have a panel on how they make the game dvd's? |
| 19:38.35 | Lopeppeppy | They could care less *which* games I play, so long as I play them. And I like boys. |
| 19:38.43 | Syzgyn | My brain is only single-core |
| 19:38.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: if only |
| 19:38.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: if only To see more details and RSVP, follow the link below: |
| 19:38.58 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.facebook.com/n/?event.php&eid=27823584582 |
| 19:39.00 | ScytheBlade1 | whaha |
| 19:39.01 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: I think they mean the making of DVD that comes with the Collector's edition, but I don't know for sure |
| 19:39.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Stupid paste |
| 19:39.06 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Lunessa |
| 19:39.06 | purl | accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets Lunessa feel it |
| 19:39.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoops |
| 19:39.07 | Lunessa | And uses preemptive multi-tasking. |
| 19:39.14 | Thunder_Child | seems kinda silly Esamynn |
| 19:39.17 | Dreagar | So i have a addon that basically grabs events and throws info into a saved var. is there any way to select what order the data will be saved into the table? |
| 19:39.18 | alestane | Anyone know a decent uncial font? |
| 19:39.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: and no money? |
| 19:39.39 | Dreagar | or does it just arbitrarily drop the data in wherever it feels like? |
| 19:40.05 | Lopeppeppy | What about money, ScytheBlade1? |
| 19:40.13 | Lopeppeppy | Are you paying me to attend the event you linked? :P |
| 19:40.22 | ScytheBlade1 | No :P |
| 19:40.24 | ScytheBlade1 | That was an accident, heh |
| 19:40.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Stupid copy paste =[ |
| 19:40.41 | ScytheBlade1 | You said you liked games and boys. But money was omitted, and money is a prereq to games |
| 19:40.44 | Dreagar | like at the end of each table, i want to put a entry that says WriteTable = 1 plus the nested tables will each have one at the end too. but i can't seem to make them showup at the end of the tables. |
| 19:40.48 | Dashkal | Dreagar: make it an array and always append. keyed tables will iterate in arbratrary order |
| 19:41.11 | Dreagar | that wont work. ok. thaks! |
| 19:41.22 | Esamynn | Dreagar: you can only control the order if you use integer indexes starting at 1 |
| 19:41.32 | Castigo | brb |
| 19:41.34 | ScytheBlade1 | (I now have a simple space in my copy buffer now) |
| 19:42.07 | Esamynn | lol |
| 19:42.16 | ScytheBlade1 | (I actually haven't even clicked that link yet..) |
| 19:42.25 | Dreagar | ok i'm gonna brainstorm a bit and see if i can come up with a way to do that easily . :) gonna change most of the code tho. lol |
| 19:43.28 | zenzelezz | how to nearly own yourself in Sunken Temple as a 70 protection warrior: forget that Eranikus has a lot of friends |
| 19:43.34 | Dashkal | Dreagar: table.insert may be of use to you |
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| 19:46.08 | Syzgyn | zenzelezz: o ya dragons! |
| 19:46.35 | Lopeppeppy | ... yeah. All fof the dragons |
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| 19:52.43 | NeoTron | SURPRISE DARGON |
| 19:53.05 | zenzelezz | I accidentally a dragon! |
| 19:53.05 | Industrial | SURPRISE DARGON BUTTSECKS |
| 19:53.08 | Industrial | no wait |
| 19:53.12 | Industrial | zenzelezz: haha |
| 19:54.55 | Dewin | I think "I accidentally a dragon!" qualifies for meme status. |
| 19:55.12 | zenzelezz | Dewin: it comes from one already, "I accidentally a fleshlight!" |
| 19:55.26 | Dewin | o.O! |
| 19:55.44 | Dewin | I would think if you were, ahem, "interacting" with a fleshlight that it wouldn't be an 'accident' |
| 19:55.50 | Syzgyn | Is that from the guy who ordered one and his mom found it first? |
| 19:56.58 | Industrial | nope |
| 19:59.44 | Industrial | zenzelezz: i cant find the original :( |
| 20:00.16 | zenzelezz | I think I can, but the pictures are mostly down |
| 20:00.35 | Industrial | yeh |
| 20:00.50 | Industrial | too bad some kind of meme archive would get WAY too big :( |
| 20:01.11 | Industrial | its so much fun and understanding, you get to rofl at things on multiple levels at the same time |
| 20:03.21 | alestane | Um. http://icanhascheezburger.com/page/2/ |
| 20:03.30 | alestane | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/10/04/funny-pictures-nose-i-has-it/. rather |
| 20:03.57 | cogwheel | anyone else unable to log into the US forums? |
| 20:04.12 | Fisker- | i am |
| 20:04.13 | Fisker- | But i'm EU |
| 20:04.16 | Fisker- | lololol etc. |
| 20:06.07 | Fisker- | So cogwheel |
| 20:06.16 | Fisker- | think we'll see the new blizzard account stuff at launch ? >:E |
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| 20:07.16 | cogwheel | ~8ball |
| 20:07.16 | purl | ACTION rolls the eight ball and gets: Cannot predict now |
| 20:09.03 | jaxdahl | Fisker-, i'm not sure they'd want to launch 2 things at the same time |
| 20:10.40 | kd3 | blah. 2 quests short in icecrown |
| 20:12.32 | Fogger | new build inc? |
| 20:12.52 | Lunessa | alestane: You should show this to small children and make them cry. |
| 20:12.53 | Fisker- | omg 2 thins!1 |
| 20:13.08 | alestane | Is there a reason to offer conversion to Blizzard accounts for WoW login? The only one that occurs to me is that someone who keylogs your login password will at least not get your acct. management password. |
| 20:13.25 | alestane | Lunessa: The "nose" picture? |
| 20:13.31 | Lunessa | Yes. |
| 20:13.38 | ScytheBlade1 | alestane: I suspect that they will eventually merge all WoW accounts into Blizzard accounts. See: multiple beta accounts attached to a single Blizzard account. |
| 20:14.12 | Lunessa | It was rather clever of them to beta test that along with the client. |
| 20:15.02 | Lopeppeppy | Heading home, then off to Blizcon. See everyone on Monday!!! |
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| 20:15.09 | Fisker- | NOOO |
| 20:15.23 | Fisker- | I need someone to force Blizzard into fixing blessings >:E |
| 20:15.41 | nevcairiel | its too late for 3.0 now |
| 20:16.11 | jaxdahl | did you know you can't zone into BRD if someone in your raid is doing a boss in MC? |
| 20:16.12 | Fisker- | there's always the launch patch |
| 20:16.13 | cogwheel | Fisker-: lern2blizzcon |
| 20:16.20 | Fisker- | Sure |
| 20:16.22 | Fisker- | I'll go there |
| 20:16.27 | Fisker- | then i'll PUKE ALL OVER YOU >:3 |
| 20:16.33 | Fisker- | nice jaxdahl |
| 20:16.46 | cogwheel | Fisker-: it wears off after a couple days |
| 20:16.57 | zenzelezz | jaxdahl: not just BRD I think |
| 20:17.07 | Fisker- | this is worse though >:E |
| 20:17.08 | jaxdahl | Fogger, not as far as i know |
| 20:17.18 | Fisker- | Like being punched in the stomach all the time |
| 20:17.20 | alestane | That seems random. I understand that there's an MC portal in there, it it seems like they could have just protected the MC instance. |
| 20:17.42 | zenzelezz | I seem to remember that the boss-fight entrance lock-down works for every single instance |
| 20:17.52 | jaxdahl | zenzelezz, that could be true |
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| 20:18.11 | alestane | So, if your raid is in a boss fight, no member of your raid can enter any instance? |
| 20:18.23 | zenzelezz | I believe so |
| 20:18.36 | Beladona | stepping back a bit, I wonder how they intend to actually utilize the multiple accounts per blizzard account idea? As far as the client goes I mean. Do you think you would log into your blizzard account, and THEN log into a specific account, or would it just show all characters available under all separate accounts? |
| 20:18.37 | jaxdahl | that sounds more likley |
| 20:18.40 | Esamynn | just that instance, I'm pretty sure |
| 20:19.12 | ScytheBlade1 | alestane: no, just that singlular instance |
| 20:19.13 | zenzelezz | Esamynn: I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I remember being locked out of other instances because the raid was fighting a boss |
| 20:19.19 | Esamynn | interesting |
| 20:19.33 | Esamynn | I guess that may have been the easiest thing to do, but... |
| 20:20.18 | selckin | ScytheBlade1: no all |
| 20:20.18 | Beladona | zenzelezz: were you in teh raid with them? |
| 20:20.20 | zenzelezz | should be easy enough to test if you're really curious |
| 20:20.35 | zenzelezz | Beladona: as in "in the raid group"? |
| 20:20.37 | ScytheBlade1 | selckin: I am almost certain you're wrong, but can't prove that atm |
| 20:20.38 | Fisker- | Beladona you get to choose the account you want to login |
| 20:20.42 | Beladona | in any of their raid groups, yes |
| 20:20.49 | Fisker- | Not seen it in action, but that's what some betatesters said |
| 20:20.52 | selckin | we've had a person in our sunwell raid solo a boss in zul'gurub, and when we wiped, nobody could enter sunwell, untill the zg boss was dead |
| 20:21.04 | zenzelezz | Beladona: yes, I was; but it was a long time ago now, as such I'm not certain |
| 20:21.09 | Beladona | tahts why then |
| 20:21.14 | Beladona | most likely |
| 20:21.29 | Beladona | it probably locks all raid members out of any instance on boss encounters |
| 20:21.43 | selckin | even after kicking the personf or the raid |
| 20:21.47 | zenzelezz | well yeah, I didn't say it locked out people who weren't in the raid |
| 20:21.48 | selckin | and reforming |
| 20:22.00 | ScytheBlade1 | That makes no sense at all, but again, can't test =[ |
| 20:22.12 | Esamynn | I agree that makes no sense |
| 20:22.13 | Beladona | that had to be a bug selckin |
| 20:22.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I agree |
| 20:22.37 | selckin | it marked the entire raid in combat with the zg boss, and unable to enter any instance |
| 20:22.38 | Esamynn | if the lockout works that way, you couldn't you bypass it by having some other people in a different group, but with the same raid ID, zone in? |
| 20:22.41 | Beladona | oh wait |
| 20:22.41 | Fisker- | They probably lock out all saved members |
| 20:22.44 | Beladona | I see what you mean |
| 20:22.56 | Esamynn | maybe |
| 20:23.08 | Beladona | they should fix that, but still, why would you want a raid that has half the people in one instance, and half in the other? |
| 20:23.38 | selckin | yeah, its a non issue really |
| 20:23.49 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah it is non issue but still |
| 20:23.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Weird |
| 20:23.57 | selckin | our tank just decided to go farm the polymorph turtle book while waiting |
| 20:24.02 | selckin | and nobody could enter, was quite funny |
| 20:24.09 | Beladona | I mean other than the minor bug where reforming didn't fix it, THAT should be fixed |
| 20:24.57 | Beladona | so I was sitting there thinking about plans for organizing 10 man raids for my guild, and I remembered we are gonna have that calendar soon |
| 20:25.09 | ScytheBlade1 | that calendar will be _so much win_ |
| 20:25.13 | Beladona | SOO gonna make things easier to organize multiple raids |
| 20:25.14 | Esamynn | indeed |
| 20:25.46 | Beladona | no more raid id collisions |
| 20:25.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Don't know how many of you have really poked with it, but it can show both *all* instance resets, and resets that only apply to your character |
| 20:25.59 | ScytheBlade1 | and/or rather |
| 20:26.01 | Beladona | because people can't remember which one they are supposed to be aprt of |
| 20:26.04 | ScytheBlade1 | You can show either or both |
| 20:26.13 | Beladona | yeah thats neat |
| 20:26.48 | Beladona | I wonder how that talent thing is gonna work |
| 20:26.53 | Fisker- | OMG PATCH TODAY? |
| 20:26.56 | ScytheBlade1 | OMG YES |
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| 20:27.01 | Beladona | is it 3.0? |
| 20:27.01 | ScytheBlade1 | (no.) |
| 20:27.11 | Esamynn | ~lart Fisker- |
| 20:27.11 | purl | beats Fisker- to within 2.54cm of his life |
| 20:27.13 | Dreagar | 4.3.2 |
| 20:27.18 | Beladona | its Fisker- |
| 20:27.25 | Beladona | I should have automatically known |
| 20:27.48 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 20:28.05 | Beladona | next week is close enough. we are taking a week off from raiding |
| 20:28.07 | Tem | I would be _pissed_ if the patch was today |
| 20:28.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Everyone would be |
| 20:28.16 | Tem | I still don't have my damn bear |
| 20:28.17 | Beladona | I kind of would as well |
| 20:28.19 | ScytheBlade1 | We'd have an amazingly buggy patch |
| 20:28.26 | Tem | fucking deeps don't show up for bear runs |
| 20:28.32 | ScytheBlade1 | And we'd also see 3.0.384 before the next week |
| 20:28.53 | Esamynn | I'm actually doubting we'll even see the patch on Oct. 14 at this point |
| 20:29.06 | Beladona | why? |
| 20:29.06 | ScytheBlade1 | One of the blues said that they were fixing >100 bugs a week |
| 20:29.11 | ScytheBlade1 | If they keep that up, then we might |
| 20:29.12 | ScytheBlade1 | *might* |
| 20:29.42 | Esamynn | because of how many problems are still being fixed, and how many things are still being tweaked, balance wise |
| 20:29.48 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah |
| 20:29.52 | ScytheBlade1 | IT's a tossup |
| 20:29.54 | ScytheBlade1 | *It's |
| 20:30.16 | Beladona | they also said they know there will be changes after release |
| 20:30.35 | Esamynn | I doubt they mean SOON after relase |
| 20:30.41 | Beladona | dont forget many of the "bugs" are beta bugs |
| 20:30.50 | ScytheBlade1 | maybe |
| 20:30.55 | Beladona | that won't show up until after Nov 14th |
| 20:30.58 | ScytheBlade1 | I guess they'd be focusing on others first |
| 20:31.04 | Esamynn | Beladona: like? |
| 20:31.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Considering their self-imposed timeline |
| 20:31.18 | Beladona | vehicles, the new siege stuff |
| 20:31.23 | Beladona | quests |
| 20:31.30 | Beladona | among many others I am sure |
| 20:31.31 | Esamynn | heh, I wasn't even thinking of those |
| 20:31.48 | Esamynn | I don't know anything about those bugs |
| 20:32.21 | Beladona | I am still a little pessimistic about the class changes working for some |
| 20:32.32 | leethal | https://beta.wow-europe.com/game/character-copy-status.html. f5. f5. f5. f5. f5. |
| 20:32.49 | Esamynn | ~lart leethal |
| 20:32.49 | purl | whips out a shotgun, trudges over to leethal, and goes postal |
| 20:33.06 | Beladona | but I guess the TBC raid nerf will go a long way towards making the class changes less detrimental |
| 20:33.20 | Esamynn | aye |
| 20:33.43 | Esamynn | I really suspect they overnerfed them, compared to what they were compensating for |
| 20:34.04 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm only seeing tank threat gen, healing, and DPS going up |
| 20:34.06 | Beladona | some of that may have been to allow people to see some of the content they would have otherwise not seen in time |
| 20:34.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Why they're nerfing boss HP I'm not sure truth be told |
| 20:34.23 | Beladona | for the reason I stated imho |
| 20:34.30 | Esamynn | ScytheBlade1: well, the new potions limitation is the main stated reason |
| 20:34.34 | ScytheBlade1 | That's what depresses me :( |
| 20:34.52 | Beladona | that too |
| 20:34.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Esamynn: 30% of 7 million isn't equal to seven healers's mana |
| 20:34.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Err |
| 20:34.59 | Dashkal | ScytheBlade1: also consider that mana is suddenly a finite resource. Those fights were tuned to last so long since it wouldn't run out |
| 20:35.01 | Beladona | fights will not last as long |
| 20:35.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, how much HP DOES Archimonde have.. |
| 20:35.08 | Beladona | because mana will not last as long |
| 20:35.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Dashkal: sure, for Brut I can see that. Then again I'm also a mage, so it was always a finite resource for me |
| 20:35.49 | Beladona | I like the fact I dont have to worry about buying tons of mana pots before a raid |
| 20:35.50 | Dashkal | Brut? Granted I'm nowhere near him but I thought his brutal berserk timer was the real time cap for him |
| 20:36.01 | Beladona | but I don't like the fact that as-is I was chain chugging them anyway |
| 20:36.02 | ScytheBlade1 | He's a very very healing intensive fight |
| 20:36.08 | Beladona | so I am a bit skeared |
| 20:36.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Ever so slightly undergeared tanks can be instagibbed |
| 20:36.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Likewise tanks who CAN take it, it's still a "fun time" |
| 20:36.32 | Esamynn | heh |
| 20:36.44 | Esamynn | at least they are removing Sunwell Radiance |
| 20:36.46 | ScytheBlade1 | True |
| 20:37.10 | Dashkal | after what they did to druids (I consider it a shift rather than a nerf) they had to |
| 20:37.18 | Esamynn | so Sunwell is taking a DOUBLE nerf |
| 20:37.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, it is |
| 20:37.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 20:37.35 | Dashkal | sunwell radiance would have made that place impossible after the tank changes |
| 20:37.39 | Beladona | aye |
| 20:37.41 | Esamynn | yah, that's true |
| 20:38.17 | Beladona | although my warrior tanks are talking about how they are going to have MORE parry and dodge than they did before, which I don't understand since most of the warrior stuff was shifting to block I thought? |
| 20:38.35 | Esamynn | Shield Block was nerfed, wasn't it? |
| 20:38.40 | kneeki | No |
| 20:38.44 | kneeki | Shield block was buffed, hard. |
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| 20:38.45 | Beladona | changed |
| 20:38.56 | kneeki | It used to be 10 STR = 1 block value, now it's 2 STR = 1 block |
| 20:39.21 | kneeki | and they changed the talent 'anticipation' (used to be 20 defense) now it's 5% dodge |
| 20:39.32 | Esamynn | I meant the Warrior ability |
| 20:39.46 | kneeki | It's the same for Paladins and Wars |
| 20:39.47 | NightHawkTheSane | (actually i think it's ~20 str = 1 BV on live currently), and shield block was changed, not really nerfed |
| 20:39.50 | kneeki | the talents I mean |
| 20:39.51 | Beladona | Shield Block used to be 75% block chance on the next attack (or 5 seconds) |
| 20:40.00 | kneeki | NightHawkTheSane: Ah yeah, my bad. |
| 20:40.05 | Beladona | now its 100% chance AND value, for 10 seconds (no attack limit) |
| 20:40.15 | Esamynn | 1 min CD though |
| 20:40.17 | NightHawkTheSane | it's a "mini shield wall" so to speak |
| 20:40.22 | Esamynn | aye |
| 20:40.22 | Beladona | tahts still pretty small |
| 20:40.50 | Esamynn | a shield block reduces damage by how much on average? |
| 20:41.04 | Beladona | depends on your str |
| 20:41.06 | NightHawkTheSane | by your shield block value :p |
| 20:41.08 | Beladona | and block value |
| 20:41.09 | Esamynn | :P |
| 20:41.21 | Beladona | well, block value I guess, since str is technically adding to that |
| 20:41.22 | Esamynn | less than 20%? |
| 20:41.24 | kneeki | I think the average amount for any Kara geared tank is aroun 400 ish |
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| 20:41.31 | kneeki | That's a guess though |
| 20:41.37 | Beladona | but the thing is, warriors will be stacking more str now anyway |
| 20:41.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Esamynn: it's a flat amount, so it depends on both your gear and the mob |
| 20:41.43 | Beladona | which means more block |
| 20:41.46 | Esamynn | ahh right, forgot |
| 20:42.02 | Esamynn | just trying to compare to Barkskin |
| 20:42.08 | Beladona | and ap which is where their threat scaling will come from |
| 20:42.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Esamynn: as an off-the-cuff estimation, they're probably close in boss situations |
| 20:42.42 | Esamynn | that's what I was wondering |
| 20:42.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Archimonde goes from 4.4 million HP to ~3 million HP |
| 20:42.46 | Beladona | I am actually looking forward to wiping the dust off my warrior in wotlk |
| 20:42.48 | NightHawkTheSane | barkskin has the advantage of working against non-physical attacks |
| 20:42.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 20:42.54 | Beladona | I might even go back to her instead of my shaman |
| 20:42.54 | Esamynn | indeed |
| 20:43.14 | Esamynn | Barkskin is no Shield Wall, but it's hax compared to Shield Block |
| 20:43.25 | NightHawkTheSane | and it's 20%, as opposed to a flat amount, but block scales better with mob attack speed |
| 20:43.57 | Beladona | how much health does Kalecgos have? |
| 20:44.18 | Esamynn | NightHawkTheSane: true, but most bosses don't hit all that fast, do that? |
| 20:44.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Esamynn: DW ones do. |
| 20:44.46 | ScytheBlade1 | wowhead lists Kalecgos as ~21k and his evil counterpart as 50k.. |
| 20:44.47 | ScytheBlade1 | ..... |
| 20:44.49 | ScytheBlade1 | So no idea |
| 20:44.51 | NightHawkTheSane | plus potential haste effects |
| 20:44.52 | Esamynn | DW? |
| 20:44.56 | NightHawkTheSane | dual wield |
| 20:44.59 | Esamynn | ahh |
| 20:45.05 | NightHawkTheSane | (ie, romulo, prince) |
| 20:45.44 | Beladona | I thought I saw somewhere he had something like 3 million |
| 20:45.47 | NightHawkTheSane | not to mention any haste effects they decide to give bosses |
| 20:45.55 | Esamynn | aye |
| 20:46.11 | cbreak | romulo is a boss? |
| 20:46.18 | cbreak | he's just the tank for jul. |
| 20:46.30 | NightHawkTheSane | as far as the game is concerned, yes. |
| 20:46.53 | cbreak | she's the evil mastermind behind the things |
| 20:46.58 | Esamynn | lol |
| 20:47.06 | Beladona | he is a guy, tied down by juliet. he is more like a man slave that happens to attack you |
| 20:47.18 | cbreak | exactly! |
| 20:47.28 | NightHawkTheSane | this is different from guys everywhere, how? |
| 20:47.49 | Beladona | too general |
| 20:47.56 | cbreak | just look at Araan. |
| 20:47.57 | Beladona | guys with girls everywhere |
| 20:48.03 | cbreak | I bet he has not a single spec of mortal desire |
| 20:48.14 | Beladona | he wears a dress |
| 20:48.24 | Beladona | he has desire, just not the kind we want to know about |
| 20:48.42 | Esamynn | ~gag Beladona |
| 20:48.51 | Beladona | lol |
| 20:49.01 | Esamynn | ~poke purl |
| 20:49.16 | cbreak | someone did a ~botpoison too many. |
| 20:49.28 | Esamynn | ~botsnack |
| 20:49.28 | purl | Esamynn: :) |
| 20:49.32 | Esamynn | O_o |
| 20:49.35 | Beladona | and you thought that was a library |
| 20:49.39 | Beladona | he is actually in a closet |
| 20:49.44 | Esamynn | ~gag Beladona |
| 20:49.51 | Esamynn | purl, you fail |
| 20:49.52 | purl | ACTION slaps esamynn for calling her a failure |
| 20:49.52 | NightHawkTheSane | (it's a big closet) |
| 20:49.57 | Beladona | true |
| 20:49.58 | Esamynn | WTH |
| 20:50.06 | vapid | pwned |
| 20:50.13 | Beladona | purl likes me too much |
| 20:50.20 | cbreak | purl, you are surprisingly nice today. |
| 20:50.20 | purl | cbreak: what are you talking about? |
| 20:50.38 | Esamynn | someone DELETED the gag one :( |
| 20:50.55 | Esamynn | AND the poke one :( |
| 20:51.02 | cbreak | convenient. :) |
| 20:51.09 | cbreak | ~hug purl |
| 20:51.20 | cbreak | och... now that's a loss. |
| 20:51.29 | Esamynn | what happened?!?!? |
| 20:51.35 | Esamynn | it's like she got reset |
| 20:51.39 | cbreak | must be... amnesia *dun dun dun* |
| 20:51.49 | Esamynn | all the emulate ones are gone too |
| 20:52.04 | Esamynn | ~stats |
| 20:52.04 | purl | Since Wed Oct 1 01:16:26 2008, there have been 50 modifications, 718 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 499 commands. I have been awake for 6d 19h 35m 38s this session, and currently reference 0 factoids. I'm using about 21132 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 16654.34/609.36 child 0.02/0 |
| 20:52.14 | cbreak | purl, do you recognize me? |
| 20:52.17 | Esamynn | yup, totally reset :( |
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| 20:52.25 | Esamynn | what a shame |
| 20:52.35 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=6178468050&sid=1#6 <-Why must obvious trolls be so obvious? |
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| 20:52.42 | erikd | 21MB, jeez |
| 20:52.52 | cbreak | Fisker-: they lack creativity. |
| 20:53.00 | Fisker- | ~undelete kiss |
| 20:53.00 | purl | Fisker-: cannot undeleted 'kiss' because it already exists! |
| 20:53.06 | Fisker- | ~kiss kd3 |
| 20:53.13 | Esamynn | lol |
| 20:53.16 | Fisker- | ~undelete CMD: kiss (*.?) |
| 20:53.16 | purl | that factoid was not backedup :/, Fisker- |
| 20:53.21 | Fisker- | >:e |
| 20:53.28 | Fisker- | i hate you |
| 20:53.39 | cbreak | ~sudo make me a sandwich |
| 20:53.39 | purl | okay |
| 20:53.54 | Esamynn | ~help sudo |
| 20:54.01 | cbreak | at least the core is still there :) |
| 20:54.19 | cbreak | http://xkcd.com/149/ |
| 20:54.31 | Fisker- | When will blizzard care about paladins? :( |
| 20:54.36 | Esamynn | Fisker-: never |
| 20:54.41 | cbreak | I hope soon. they deserve a nerf stick |
| 20:54.49 | cbreak | to be hit with I mean |
| 20:54.50 | Lunessa | http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/10/toy-robot-inten.html |
| 20:54.51 | cbreak | some. |
| 20:54.52 | Fisker- | ~make me a sandwich |
| 20:54.53 | Esamynn | lol |
| 20:55.10 | Fisker- | nah cbreak |
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| 20:56.08 | Esamynn | poor purl |
| 20:56.30 | cbreak | this must be a stereotypical amnesia plot |
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| 20:58.32 | Beladona | bbl |
| 20:59.00 | Fisker- | purl, CMD: kiss (.*?) is ($1): <action> forces $1 to give $randnick a big kiss on the (lips|neck|hand|forhead|ear) |
| 20:59.00 | purl | Fisker-: i already had it that way |
| 20:59.06 | Fisker- | :o? |
| 20:59.09 | Fisker- | ~kiss purl |
| 20:59.24 | Fisker- | ~literal CMD: kiss (.*?) |
| 20:59.24 | purl | "cmd: kiss (.*?)" is "($1): <action> forces $1 to give $randnick a big kiss on the (lips|neck|hand|forhead|ear)" |
| 20:59.27 | Fisker- | wtf |
| 20:59.36 | Fisker- | ~kiss |
| 20:59.36 | purl | ACTION forces $1 to give Kandoko a big kiss on the neck |
| 20:59.40 | Fisker- | fail |
| 20:59.43 | Fisker- | ~kiss kd3 |
| 20:59.48 | Fisker- | >:E |
| 20:59.57 | Fisker- | purl, l2bot |
| 21:00.25 | Fisker- | purl, no CMD: kiss (.*?) is ($1): <action> forces $1 to give $randnick a big kiss on the (lips|neck|hand|forehead|ear) |
| 21:00.26 | purl | Fisker-: okay |
| 21:00.26 | Esamynn | I forget the exact syntax, but that is obviously wrong :/ |
| 21:00.31 | Fisker- | ~kiss purl |
| 21:00.35 | Fisker- | i hate you |
| 21:00.39 | Fisker- | ~literal kiss |
| 21:00.39 | purl | "kiss" is "<action> forces $1 to give $randnick a big kiss on the (lips|neck|hand|forehead|ear)" |
| 21:00.46 | Esamynn | it doesn't start with CMD that much I'm sure about |
| 21:01.07 | Fisker- | no kiss is <action> forces $randnick to give $randnick a big kiss on the (lips|neck|hand|forehead|ear) |
| 21:01.14 | Fisker- | purl, no kiss is <action> forces $randnick to give $randnick a big kiss on the (lips|neck|hand|forehead|ear) |
| 21:01.14 | purl | Fisker-: okay |
| 21:01.16 | Esamynn | purl, kiss (.*?) is ($1): <action> forces $1 to give $randnick a big kiss on the (lips|neck|hand|forehead|ear) |
| 21:01.16 | purl | Esamynn: okay |
| 21:01.17 | Fisker- | ~kiss |
| 21:01.17 | purl | ACTION forces Tem to give Tem a big kiss on the lips |
| 21:01.20 | Fisker- | nice |
| 21:01.22 | Fisker- | same random seed :( |
| 21:01.33 | Fisker- | purl forget kiss |
| 21:01.33 | purl | i forgot kiss, Fisker- |
| 21:01.39 | Fisker- | ~kiss kd3 |
| 21:01.47 | Fisker- | i hate purl |
| 21:02.00 | cbreak | purl, read http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TraumaInducedAmnesia |
| 21:02.06 | vapid | maybe my regex broke it earlier? |
| 21:02.14 | vapid | i doubt it |
| 21:02.15 | vapid | but |
| 21:02.28 | leethal | how can creating premade chars on beta realms take so long? |
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| 21:02.51 | Fisker- | Who says it takes so long? :3 |
| 21:02.57 | NightHawkTheSane | blizzard adds a delay in, specifically to annoy you. |
| 21:04.17 | cbreak | they probably employ people who create premades with telnet |
| 21:04.21 | cbreak | speaking to the sql server |
| 21:04.27 | Fisker- | Their servers run on sneakernet |
| 21:04.29 | Fisker- | that's why |
| 21:04.37 | NightHawkTheSane | all blizzards data processing is done via carefully waving powerful magnets over their drives. |
| 21:04.42 | cbreak | passing punchcards around? |
| 21:05.02 | Industrial | pidgeon mail. |
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| 21:05.20 | NightHawkTheSane | pneumatic tubes. *nod* |
| 21:05.36 | Industrial | smoke signals |
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| 21:19.47 | devXero | is there a copy of devtools that works in beta? |
| 21:20.50 | smcn | at wowinterface |
| 21:23.01 | |Jelly| | Arrowmaster: I was totally about to tell you http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10638063081&sid=1#18 |
| 21:23.17 | Arrowmaster | lies |
| 21:23.25 | |Jelly| | I promise. |
| 21:23.27 | |Jelly| | <333 |
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| 21:23.37 | Arrowmaster | still wondering who the fuck that is |
| 21:24.08 | |Jelly| | From the way he's nerdraging and only attacking people who can't kill M'uru, I would assume it's that Doomcrusher moron. |
| 21:24.32 | Arrowmaster | who? |
| 21:24.46 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10892069730&sid=1 (LOTS of profanity) |
| 21:25.23 | Arrowmaster | no clue who he is |
| 21:25.45 | Arrowmaster | would figure its somebody i would sorta know since they blantly called me out |
| 21:26.20 | |Jelly| | Some moron who was carried by Og/Abstract through BT. Got 5 (I assume) pieces of T5, then started a warlock who is wearing just about every welfare piece of gear you can get, calling out PvE specced/geared players (like myself, for instance) |
| 21:26.31 | Fisker- | my stomach :( |
| 21:26.47 | Arrowmaster | heh |
| 21:27.29 | Lunessa | Hey, I've never even killed Gruul. I should get me some nerd-rage? |
| 21:27.37 | |Jelly| | He messaged me from his warrior alt the other day nerd-wigger-raging on me. It was pretty funny and I copied and pasted the conversation there. Pretty much the last post I ever intend on making on those forums. |
| 21:28.07 | Fisker- | fucking awesome |Jelly| |
| 21:28.16 | Arrowmaster | i havent really gone to the realm forums since pre tbc |
| 21:28.32 | Arrowmaster | was half way decent back then |
| 21:29.06 | Arrowmaster | since everybody fighting actually knew each other and was just fooling around |
| 21:30.00 | Arrowmaster | i showed how old i am in trade chat the other night by making an extremely old burning legion joke |
| 21:30.08 | |Jelly| | Fisker-: Thanks |
| 21:30.26 | Arrowmaster | where the only people that got the joke was me and the guy i made the joke about |
| 21:30.55 | |Jelly| | I've been on BL since ~4 months after release but I don't get all the innuendo and what not because quite frankly, I've never cared to be in the cliques. |
| 21:31.54 | Arrowmaster | i never got into it much back then but just kinda lurked from the shadows a lot since all i did was idle in org looking for instance groups |
| 21:32.36 | Arrowmaster | but yeah if youve been on the server since 4 months after release then thats actually longer than me |
| 21:33.13 | Arrowmaster | but i picked up a lot of the stuff from the release day people |
| 21:33.20 | |Jelly| | I talk to Nou on AIM every now and then but other than that, I stay out of all that back and forth BS. |
| 21:33.43 | Arrowmaster | heh i still idle in the burninglegion irc channel |
| 21:33.57 | Arrowmaster | which right now im one of the few people actually on burninglegion thats in it |
| 21:33.59 | |Jelly| | I was kicked out of the channel once and never went back (after not saying a word) |
| 21:34.04 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 21:34.40 | |Jelly| | Who frequents it? |
| 21:34.52 | Arrowmaster | people that were on the server on release |
| 21:34.52 | |Jelly| | Keeping in mind that I hate Kenemoto or however it's spelled. |
| 21:35.01 | Arrowmaster | ah |
| 21:35.05 | Arrowmaster | ken is awesome |
| 21:35.26 | Arrowmaster | we went and hung out with him in IF for a while pretbc |
| 21:35.38 | Arrowmaster | me and like 5 rogues |
| 21:36.11 | |Jelly| | I've talked to him on Vent a couple times and he's pretty chill there but his forum persona makes me want to uppercut him in the balls. |
| 21:36.32 | Arrowmaster | but the channel is mostly people from ropetown and apoc i think and some others from way back that either transfered off, dont play wow anymore, or rerolled on other servers and dont play chars on bl anymore |
| 21:37.01 | |Jelly| | wow ... that is old school |
| 21:37.22 | Arrowmaster | oh god that time me (a warlock) and like 5 rogues hung out in IF for a few hours, they found gauntlet pvp flaged at the mailbox |
| 21:37.42 | Arrowmaster | all of them jumped him and at like 10% hp his pvp flag wore off |
| 21:37.57 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 21:38.16 | Arrowmaster | major 'WTF? LOL' on the forums from all involved |
| 21:38.36 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 21:39.31 | |Jelly| | Oh and I talk to Cathina regularly ... but she transferred off again. |
| 21:39.43 | Arrowmaster | lol again |
| 21:39.44 | AckisWork | how stinky was last years blizzcon? |
| 21:40.08 | |Jelly| | Yeah. She got all emo over some JAGD/Ratspike drama. |
| 21:41.10 | Arrowmaster | man none of the drama anymore comes close to the stories i heard when i first started |
| 21:41.35 | |Jelly| | I think it's all pretty dumb |
| 21:41.43 | zenzelezz | You kids these days. When I was young, drama was twice as heated. |
| 21:41.49 | Fogger | ok, this function is a mess, but it works on beta, though not on live I get an error on line 12, (elapsed is nil) can anyone please tell me why? http://pastey.net/97694 |
| 21:42.31 | |Jelly| | Are they getting rid of badges or something? |
| 21:42.54 | Arrowmaster | they wont be worth much soon |
| 21:43.03 | Arrowmaster | doubt they will remove them |
| 21:43.16 | Fisker- | haha |Jelly| |
| 21:43.20 | Fisker- | it just keeps getting better and better |
| 21:43.25 | |Jelly| | ?? |
| 21:43.35 | Arrowmaster | that 17 page thread? |
| 21:43.44 | |Jelly| | oh. rofl |
| 21:44.23 | Fisker- | He got pwned by a ret pala |
| 21:44.30 | Jinivus | . |
| 21:44.31 | Fisker- | i lol'd |
| 21:45.38 | Dashkal | mmm, bacon |
| 21:46.13 | Fogger | does my problem have you all stumped, or am I too inferior to be worthy of reply? :P |
| 21:46.57 | Arrowmaster | omg this 17 page thread is good |
| 21:47.29 | Arrowmaster | pathone, zyphamon, reece |
| 21:47.36 | Arrowmaster | bunch of old schoolers |
| 21:48.36 | |Jelly| | Pathone. kek |
| 21:48.54 | Arrowmaster | lol lemmiwinks too |
| 21:49.08 | |Jelly| | "GTFO LEMMI'S SERVER" kek |
| 21:49.36 | NeoTron | what is this thread you speak on? |
| 21:50.06 | Arrowmaster | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10892069730&sid=1 |
| 21:50.49 | NeoTron | seems like a highly non-interesting thread, at least if you're not on that server |
| 21:51.06 | Arrowmaster | yeah it wont be |
| 21:51.10 | Arrowmaster | except if your Fisker- |
| 21:51.14 | Movix | hi, is there a way to inspect if a string matches an existing and valid texture path ? |
| 21:53.15 | Syzgyn | Movix: Set a texture to it then call GetTexture()? |
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| 21:53.42 | Movix | thx i will try that |
| 21:53.56 | NeoTron | Fogger: OnUpdate doesn't get "self" on live I believe would be the change? |
| 21:54.06 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: it does |
| 21:54.42 | Fogger | NeoTron: :O thanks |
| 21:54.55 | Fogger | err, mmm |
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| 21:55.30 | Arrowmaster | i think on the first OnUpdate elapsed might be nil |
| 21:55.53 | NeoTron | easily tested |
| 21:56.19 | Dreagar | can someoen suggest a good mod that takes your minimap buttons and puts them in a frame of their own? one that works well? |
| 21:56.24 | Esamynn | Arrowmaster: that would be... odd |
| 21:56.31 | Esamynn | 0 I could understand, but nil? |
| 21:56.34 | Antiarc | LocBot: Where is NeoTron? |
| 21:56.37 | Fogger | odd thing is, I took this code from a live addon. butchered it quite a bit, but it works on beta :| |
| 21:56.48 | Arrowmaster | for some reason i think i remember hearing about this before |
| 21:56.59 | NeoTron | Antiarc: at work! |
| 21:57.09 | Arrowmaster | Dreagar: i dont think anything has ever managed to do that 'well' |
| 21:57.32 | Dreagar | that's what i thought. (sigh) oh well. on the todo list. lol |
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| 21:57.56 | Antiarc | Locbot is sucking today :( |
| 21:58.10 | Antiarc | LocBot: Where is NeoTron? |
| 21:58.10 | LocBot | Antiarc: NeoTron is in Bothell, WA, United States (Map: http://is.gd/3GaO) |
| 21:58.14 | Antiarc | \o/ |
| 21:58.28 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 |
| 21:58.34 | Esamynn | wth? |
| 21:58.48 | NightHawkTheSane | a) thats kinda neat. b) that's kinda creepy. c) NeoTron are you? crazy. |
| 21:58.53 | NeoTron | close but not quite right |
| 21:59.03 | smcn | LocBot: where is smcn? |
| 21:59.04 | LocBot | smcn: smcn is in Vancouver, WA, United States (Map: http://is.gd/3GaT) |
| 21:59.07 | smcn | neat! |
| 21:59.11 | NightHawkTheSane | i used to work in bothell >.> |
| 21:59.21 | Esamynn | LocBot: Where is Esamynn? |
| 21:59.21 | LocBot | Esamynn: I don't know where Esamynn is from! (Are they cloaked?) |
| 21:59.25 | NeoTron | about 10 miles off |
| 21:59.26 | Esamynn | buahahaah! =D |
| 21:59.50 | Fogger | Dreagar: Carbonite does this, but maybe only in the pay version. |
| 22:00.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: (minor note: when i click the link in x-chat, the trailing ) comes with the url, maybe add a space..) |
| 22:00.21 | Antiarc | Oh, I can do that |
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| 22:00.52 | NeoTron | LocBot where is neotron_ ? |
| 22:00.53 | LocBot | NeoTron: LocBot is in Scottsdale, AZ, United States (Map: http://is.gd/3EdI) |
| 22:01.00 | Arrowmaster | NightHawkTheSane, Antiarc: mirc does that too |
| 22:01.05 | NightHawkTheSane | LocBot: where is NightHawkTheSane ? |
| 22:01.06 | LocBot | NightHawkTheSane: NightHawkTheSane is in Port Orchard, WA, United States (Map: http://is.gd/3Gbq) |
| 22:01.06 | NeoTron | lol ops |
| 22:01.09 | NeoTron | LocBot: where is neotron_ ? |
| 22:01.10 | LocBot | NeoTron: neotron_ is in San Diego, CA, United States (Map: http://is.gd/3Gbs) |
| 22:01.10 | Arrowmaster | oh wait no it doesnt |
| 22:01.15 | Arrowmaster | i sware it sued to |
| 22:01.28 | NightHawkTheSane | oh wow, thats way off. |
| 22:01.44 | Arrowmaster | or was it that when you link to something with () in it like a wikipedia link it removes the trailing )... |
| 22:02.02 | Fogger | LocBot: where is Fogger |
| 22:02.03 | LocBot | Fogger: Fogger is in Crowthorne, United Kingdom (Map: http://is.gd/3GbF) |
| 22:02.15 | Fogger | well, it got the country right :) |
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| 22:02.41 | Esamynn | lol |
| 22:02.47 | |Jelly| | LocBot: Where is |Jelly|? |
| 22:02.48 | LocBot | |Jelly|: |Jelly| is in Haltom City, TX, United States (Map: http://is.gd/3GbO) |
| 22:02.54 | |Jelly| | Fuckin stalker |
| 22:03.01 | Esamynn | lol |
| 22:03.13 | NightHawkTheSane | e-stalking made easy :p |
| 22:03.26 | Antiarc | It's always been easy >_> |
| 22:03.31 | |Jelly| | LocBot: Where is Shirik|AFK? |
| 22:03.31 | LocBot | |Jelly|: I don't know where Shirik|AFK is from! (Are they cloaked?) |
| 22:03.32 | Antiarc | The bot just brings stalking to the masses |
| 22:03.37 | |Jelly| | :( |
| 22:03.59 | NightHawkTheSane | "Locbot: e-stalking for the masses?" |
| 22:04.09 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, "Locbot: e-stalking even your mom can use." |
| 22:04.11 | Esamynn | beat the bot, ask Cairenn for a cloak! =D |
| 22:04.35 | Cairenn | :) |
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| 22:07.54 | zenzelezz | I wonder if the 10-man raids in WotLK will bring back "LF9M Naxx class run" |
| 22:08.21 | |Jelly| | WTB Pally only Kara :( |
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| 22:11.16 | Syzgyn | LocBot: where is Syzgyn |
| 22:11.17 | LocBot | Syzgyn: Syzgyn is in Lawrenceville, GA, United States ( Map: http://is.gd/3GdQ ) |
| 22:11.23 | Syzgyn | Wrong! |
| 22:12.17 | Thunder_Child | LocBot: where is Thunder_Child |
| 22:12.17 | LocBot | Thunder_Child: Thunder_Child is in Los Angeles, CA, United States ( Map: http://is.gd/3GdZ ) |
| 22:13.02 | Thunder_Child | slow map load? |
| 22:13.06 | Syzgyn | I'm an hour west of where it says I am |
| 22:13.16 | Thunder_Child | s/slow/non-existant/ |
| 22:13.59 | Thunder_Child | Syzgyn, it goes to the closest hub |
| 22:14.28 | Thunder_Child | i'm 4.9mi from where it says |
| 22:14.56 | Syzgyn | I know :P |
| 22:15.02 | Fisker- | Gnarfoz |
| 22:15.03 | Fisker- | MY FRIEND |
| 22:15.07 | Gnarfoz | slap |
| 22:15.12 | Fisker- | They're doing absolutely nothing of use! |
| 22:15.12 | Syzgyn | I'm sorta suprised thats the closest hub to me |
| 22:15.26 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10972017221&sid=2000 <- :/ |
| 22:15.28 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: you sound surprised... |
| 22:15.32 | Fisker- | iol change is "ok" |
| 22:15.38 | Fisker- | Atleast we get something that's instant |
| 22:15.43 | Fisker- | Though |
| 22:15.53 | Fisker- | It probably is kinda silly since it probably incurs GCD anyways |
| 22:15.57 | Fisker- | and doesn't ignore it |
| 22:16.03 | Fisker- | in which case you could just as well have healed |
| 22:16.10 | Gnarfoz | yeah :X |
| 22:16.27 | Gnarfoz | they should read that huge-ass post in the paladin forums by that guy |
| 22:16.31 | Antiarc | Bacon of Light -- no change here, but I can never miss an opportunity to call it Bacon. |
| 22:16.48 | Fisker- | I still don't get it :( |
| 22:16.53 | Fisker- | Paladins are the worst healers in the game |
| 22:16.56 | Fisker- | (fact) |
| 22:17.05 | Fisker- | And they won't even fix the stuff they promised to |
| 22:17.08 | Gnarfoz | they intend to keep it that way ;D |
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| 22:18.40 | nevcairiel | all classes QQ, you should read other forums more often |
| 22:18.42 | Lunessa | mmm... bacon. |
| 22:19.23 | Gnarfoz | dunno, being the worst healer in BC already, they offer us... a heal that can fail? |
| 22:19.36 | Fisker- | nevcairiel yeah but our QQ is actually upon good basis |
| 22:19.53 | nevcairiel | everyone claims that, too |
| 22:19.54 | smcn | everyone thinks their qq is justified |
| 22:19.55 | Gnarfoz | and a manareg spell that incurs a -20% reduction in healing while it's active? oO |
| 22:20.08 | Fisker- | Not to mention you could actually pvp and grind a bit before they nerfed seals :( |
| 22:20.14 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: some classes cant to anythign while they reg mana :P |
| 22:20.17 | Gnarfoz | uhm |
| 22:20.21 | Fisker- | nevcairiel but ours actually is |
| 22:20.25 | Gnarfoz | which healer class would that be? |
| 22:20.32 | Fisker- | None Gnarfoz |
| 22:20.36 | Gnarfoz | indeed. |
| 22:20.38 | nevcairiel | who talked about healers? |
| 22:20.41 | Gnarfoz | we did. |
| 22:20.44 | nevcairiel | i didnt |
| 22:20.48 | nevcairiel | fooled you! |
| 22:20.55 | Gnarfoz | :> |
| 22:20.56 | Fisker- | nevcairiel who talked about classes who don't need to perform their central role while regenning? |
| 22:21.01 | Fisker- | Do your tanks die if you regen mana? |
| 22:21.08 | Fisker- | Nah i don't think so |
| 22:21.13 | nevcairiel | 20% isnt much |
| 22:21.23 | Fisker- | It's more than 0% |
| 22:21.30 | nevcairiel | its less then 100 |
| 22:21.33 | Fisker- | Yeah |
| 22:21.36 | Fisker- | But still more than 0% |
| 22:21.38 | nevcairiel | so stop qqing or I'll get GC to make it 100 again |
| 22:21.43 | Fisker- | go for it |
| 22:21.53 | Fisker- | I can always spec ret |
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| 22:22.22 | nevcairiel | paladings are the worst people anyway, always complaining, always demanding, always trying to be special, at least ours are like that, so kill em already =P |
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| 22:33.33 | cbreak | mages have a mana regen spell that reduces our dps by 100% while it's active |
| 22:33.44 | cbreak | and our mobility |
| 22:34.08 | cbreak | in fact, we can't do anything while regenerating |
| 22:35.03 | Fogger | got the flasher function working on live, just changed "function DebuffWatcher2:Flasher(len,r,g,b)" to "local function DWFlasher(length,r,g,b)" |
| 22:37.03 | Gnarfoz | cbreak: healers. |
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| 22:54.36 | Dewin | Is there any particular reason we don't have the current beta/ptr build# in the topic? |
| 22:56.12 | NightHawkTheSane | .. is there a reason we need it? |
| 22:57.36 | Dewin | eh, I'm waiting for a particular PTR bug to get fixed, as it's stopping all development of my addon :) |
| 22:57.45 | Dewin | and I have little reason to log into the PTR otherwise |
| 22:58.05 | NightHawkTheSane | wowcompares.com has the lateset build numbeers.. |
| 22:58.08 | Antiarc | LocBot: botsnack |
| 22:58.08 | LocBot | Antiarc: om nom nom. om nom! |
| 22:58.09 | LocBot | WHO TOUCHED SASHA? |
| 22:58.29 | ScytheBlade1 | All right |
| 22:58.31 | ScytheBlade1 | WHO TOUCHED MY GUN?! |
| 22:58.53 | Dewin | NHTS: This is true, but it's not the fastest way to check. |
| 22:59.00 | Dewin | We have the current TOC in the topic, so why not the PTR build? |
| 22:59.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Because it's 30000 |
| 22:59.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Like beta |
| 22:59.13 | ScytheBlade1 | And hard to forget |
| 22:59.19 | NeoTron | oh where does the "om nom nom" meme originate? |
| 22:59.37 | Dewin | I was referring to the 9038 part, not the 30000 part ;) |
| 23:00.11 | Antiarc | ScytheBlade1: Cookie Monster, I think |
| 23:00.26 | Dewin | I just want my reloadui crash to go away ; ; |
| 23:00.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: wasn't the one who asked ;) |
| 23:00.42 | Antiarc | Doh |
| 23:00.47 | Antiarc | NeoTron: Cookie monster |
| 23:00.55 | NeoTron | are the only self only enchanting thing the ring enchants? |
| 23:01.08 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 23:01.14 | NeoTron | Antiarc: ah. I didn't grow up with sesame street |
| 23:01.50 | NeoTron | someone should put up a site that solely lists profession-limited benefits |
| 23:02.52 | Fisker- | He didn't get the point Gnarfoz :P |
| 23:03.54 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: as did blizz :< |
| 23:06.58 | Fisker- | :P |
| 23:07.46 | Fisker- | Gonna be fun fun using 20 symbol of kings an hour, and 30-60 seconds of buffing time an hour when other classes can do that in "0" seconds |
| 23:08.05 | Dewin | eh? |
| 23:08.14 | Dewin | I thought the blessings were being changed to 30 minutes |
| 23:08.16 | Dewin | am I misremembering? |
| 23:08.21 | Fisker- | They are |
| 23:08.25 | Fisker- | But that's still 20 symbols |
| 23:08.28 | Fisker- | 10 classes, 2 buffs |
| 23:08.47 | Dewin | and there's no minor glyph to eliminate the symbol requirement? |
| 23:08.55 | Fisker- | They just recently changed party buffs to be raid buffs |
| 23:09.02 | Fisker- | But since ours are class based we're screwed |
| 23:09.04 | Fisker- | dunno Dewin |
| 23:09.14 | NeoTron | back in the good old days you spent 1 minute buffing blessings per 5 minutes |
| 23:09.18 | Fisker- | That's not been the point of minor glyphs though so i doubt it |
| 23:09.25 | Fisker- | indeed NeoTron |
| 23:09.34 | Dewin | I thought the point of the minor glyphs was non-game-balance-impacting enhancements |
| 23:09.51 | Maldivia | there's a glyph that removes the reagent from combat res |
| 23:09.53 | Dewin | removing vendor-bought reagants from a spell certainly would classify as non-game-balance-impacting. |
| 23:09.58 | Fisker- | infact it would |
| 23:10.12 | Fisker- | All classes are supposed to have some sort of moneysink |
| 23:10.25 | NeoTron | that's being mostly removed if people so wish |
| 23:10.33 | Dewin | Paladins wear plate, the most expensive armor to repair. Is that not money sink enough? :) |
| 23:10.48 | Fisker- | Everything is a money sink with paladins :P |
| 23:10.52 | Dewin | My priest wife dies far more than my mail-wearing hunter in raids but I spend far more on repairs. |
| 23:10.59 | Fisker- | Pay for reagents, pay for being allowed into raids because you suck, pay for gear, etc. |
| 23:11.00 | Fisker- | :D |
| 23:11.13 | Fisker- | suck as per class balance and not matter of a choice of course |
| 23:11.32 | Dewin | at least your reagants are vendorbought |
| 23:11.44 | Fisker- | heh |
| 23:11.45 | Dewin | Light feathers are usually for like 1s or less per on AH... until my mage actually runs out |
| 23:11.56 | Dewin | then suddenly there's only one stack up for 50s each. |
| 23:12.08 | kd3 | <3 the slow fall glyph |
| 23:12.15 | Maldivia | Dewin: there's a slow fall glyph |
| 23:12.16 | Fisker- | Probably one of those monitoring addons |
| 23:12.25 | Fisker- | Sends out a call to all ah players |
| 23:12.34 | Fisker- | "Warning: Player X has run out of feathers, increase prices!" |
| 23:12.47 | Dewin | I'm aware there's a slow fall glyph, it will probably be one of the first ones my mage gets. |
| 23:14.52 | NeoTron | we don't have any real loot events yet, right? i.e like the new combat log vs having to be parsed manually from a text string |
| 23:15.10 | Dewin | We don't? |
| 23:15.14 | Antiarc | Repair cost for armor types has been normalized for a long time now, hasn't it? |
| 23:15.40 | Dewin | sec Neotron |
| 23:16.08 | NeoTron | in 2.4 you still just get the "foo looted X" type events |
| 23:16.18 | Dewin | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/Loot I think you might be right. |
| 23:16.20 | Dewin | ... |
| 23:16.25 | Dewin | "Â Fired when a player cancels a roll on an item " |
| 23:16.32 | Dewin | since when can you cancel rolls? |
| 23:16.37 | Antiarc | "pass" |
| 23:16.41 | Dewin | Ah. |
| 23:16.58 | Dewin | I think there should be a way to demote need -> greed -> pass before an item drops |
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| 23:34.44 | Lunessa | cog|away: lol - Ascii art is the best. |
| 23:36.53 | Dewin | does gifscii count? :) |
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| 23:38.07 | Lunessa | gifscii? |
| 23:38.24 | Dewin | converts images to ascii art |
| 23:38.27 | ScytheBlade1 | huh |
| 23:38.28 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=11114&sid=1 |
| 23:38.33 | Dewin | quite effectively, at that. |
| 23:38.37 | ScytheBlade1 | <title>World of Warcraft - English (NA) Forums -> UI & Macros Forum</title |
| 23:38.42 | ScytheBlade1 | "(NA)" ? |
| 23:38.52 | Dewin | North America? |
| 23:38.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 23:39.02 | ScytheBlade1 | I was thinking "Not Applicable" haha |
| 23:39.09 | ScytheBlade1 | But North America fits |
| 23:39.46 | Lunessa | Vivendi is all French and stuff... they're trying to deny the US-Centric nature of WoW. :P |
| 23:39.54 | Dewin | man, I hate watching a movie on youtube that should be cool but it was frapsed at like 1 FPS. |
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| 23:44.17 | Dewin | heh... 40 priest onyxia. |
| 23:45.28 | alestane | How the $&#% do 40 priests take on Onyxia? |
| 23:46.00 | Dewin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAmXZPuS7L0&feature=related |
| 23:46.11 | Dewin | lots of Circle of Healing spam, among other things. |
| 23:46.44 | Dewin | wow, and no deaths until around 5 minutes in. |
| 23:46.46 | NightHawkTheSane | i could have sworn i saw a 40-priest ony from pre-bc.. |
| 23:46.55 | Dewin | oct 22, 2006 |
| 23:46.59 | Dewin | might be that one |
| 23:47.46 | NightHawkTheSane | i think it was jan 2007 |
| 23:48.10 | Dewin | I like the first song in the vid, fits it well |
| 23:48.20 | NightHawkTheSane | which means, among other things, no circle of healing :p |
| 23:48.53 | Dewin | oh. |
| 23:48.57 | Dewin | Maybe it was prayer of healing then |
| 23:49.06 | Dewin | I was trying to read the spellcasts off blury youtubeized video. |
| 23:49.07 | NightHawkTheSane | would have to be |
| 23:49.31 | NightHawkTheSane | poh/fh/gh was pretty much the entire healing repertoire for a priest |
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| 23:52.27 | Neuro_Medivh | shutdown in 15... patch? |
| 23:53.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Kinda sounds like it |
| 23:53.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Sbo-Bot? |
| 23:53.34 | NightHawkTheSane | jesus, does EVERYONE have a freaking bot in here? |
| 23:53.45 | sacarasc | i am part bot |
| 23:53.52 | ScytheBlade1 | NightHawkTheSane: he's new and temporary |
| 23:53.58 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm pretty sure when the robot revolution comes, this room will be the staging point. |
| 23:53.59 | ScytheBlade1 | His usage will become apparent soon enough |
| 23:54.13 | ScytheBlade1 | He also does right about nothing and responds to no commands at all |
| 23:54.44 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: i assume he's an irc output of your build fetch script? |
| 23:54.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Plus automated scanning |
| 23:55.00 | NightHawkTheSane | *nod* neat. |
| 23:56.55 | Neuro_Medivh | I, for one, welcome our new Robot Overlords |
| 23:57.03 | Quaiche | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=103666&postcount=33 |
| 23:57.06 | NightHawkTheSane | "Bacon of Light -- no change here, but I can never miss an opportunity to call it Bacon." |
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