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| 00:26.19 | Tuller | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10043090753&sid=2000 :P |
| 00:27.45 | NightHawkTheSane | ~lart Tuller |
| 00:27.45 | purl | decapitates Tuller conan the destroyer style |
| 00:28.14 | Tuller | well to be fair, I have the book sitting in my paladin's bank |
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| 00:47.05 | Tekkub | shit, releasing in instance when NR is crashed == bad |
| 00:47.17 | Tekkub | Duman, your fault |
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| 00:48.25 | Tekkub | DAMNIT! |
| 00:49.38 | Duman | lol, told you not to release then! |
| 00:49.40 | Duman | we made it in |
| 00:50.02 | Tekkub | I never saw you say nuttin |
| 00:52.29 | Shirik | I has a question for you |
| 00:52.36 | Tuller | hrm? |
| 00:52.48 | Lonny` | Is there a way to get the name, id of the effect the item triggers beforehand ? |
| 00:52.49 | Tekkub | no he won't have your buttbabies |
| 00:52.54 | Tekkub | mione are already in there |
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| 01:00.12 | Tuller | uhh |
| 01:00.15 | Tuller | GetItemSpell? |
| 01:02.57 | Lonny` | Will that return the effect of the item ? I'm not quite sure :) |
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| 01:04.52 | Lonny` | I'll have a look, thanks |
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| 01:09.54 | Cairenn | oops |
| 01:10.03 | Shirik | long distance huggage |
| 01:10.04 | Sargeras | rawr |
| 01:10.15 | Sargeras | my hugs, dey bring back the afkers |
| 01:10.21 | Sargeras | :D |
| 01:10.26 | Cairenn | couple more weeks and it'll be up close & personal hugs! |
| 01:10.38 | Sargeras | oh my, what a lovely tea party |
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| 01:14.37 | Lonny` | Tuller: Thanks for enlighten me mate :) |
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| 01:26.34 | Tem | okay, that's awesome |
| 01:26.52 | Tem | aparently there's a new thing with brewfest that ports you to BRD |
| 01:27.06 | Tem | someone just put one on top of the soulwell in AV |
| 01:27.11 | Tem | and like 15 people left |
| 01:27.23 | Corgan | lol |
| 01:27.49 | NightHawkTheSane | nice. |
| 01:46.41 | cbreak | sounds like a mage |
| 01:49.47 | Syzgyn | Yea its an item that drops from the boss, can port your party |
| 01:56.09 | |Jelly| | http://notalwaysright.com/gotta-love-them-diy-puters/526 |
| 01:58.10 | Neuro_Medivh | sometimes, I swear those stories HAVE to be made up |
| 01:58.20 | |Jelly| | Either way, lol. |
| 01:58.28 | Neuro_Medivh | then I see shit like the lady who thinks the rainbow from her sprinkler is a govt. conspiracy |
| 02:00.48 | Duman | hmm |
| 02:01.24 | Shirik | Our healer chat during raids, talking about why people are outhealing each other on the charts: http://wowi.pastey.net/96516 |
| 02:01.30 | Shirik | You be the judge of whether or not it's actually the SPs :) |
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| 02:12.12 | |Jelly| | lolshirik |
| 02:12.26 | Shirik | btw, Xeyth |
| 02:12.30 | Shirik | is the tank that was supposed to save us two |
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| 02:21.51 | Tem | mkay this is awesome |
| 02:22.00 | Tem | I have figure out how to always live through kalecgos wipes |
| 02:22.24 | Tem | when a wipe is called GET INTO THE SPECTRAL REALM |
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| 02:28.27 | Syzgyn | Hahaha |
| 02:30.15 | Syzgyn | One of our druid tanks macro'd his abilities to whisper a warlock to start or stop attacking |
| 02:31.01 | Kraps | i got 550 ms latency |
| 02:43.42 | Tem | hahaha awesome |
| 02:43.49 | Tem | I've made an elixir last a whole hour |
| 03:01.34 | Tekkub | ⪠I was duh duh done with all the fuh fuh fuckin' around ⫠|
| 03:05.04 | Duman | welp |
| 03:05.09 | Duman | I wonder if they have a fix for the lag |
| 03:05.45 | NightHawkTheSane | i dunno. did they have a fix for the lag the last restart? or maybe the one before that? ;) |
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| 03:14.27 | Anaral | So is there a good 'How to...' for trolling the forums without wanting to kill myself five minutes into the 'dumpster dive'? |
| 03:23.20 | Corrodias | you want to troll, but not kill yourself? |
| 03:24.14 | Anaral | Bah, wrong word, stupid sleep deprivation |
| 03:24.33 | Anaral | s/troll/read |
| 03:25.04 | Anaral | Yeah my thesaurus part of my brain is dead, so no nice descriptive words tonight. |
| 03:28.39 | Anaral | Trudge! That's the word I meant to use instead of troll. :D |
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| 03:45.47 | Corrodias | well, uh, just ignore everything everyone else posts |
| 03:45.49 | Corrodias | you should do fine |
| 03:47.04 | Anaral | Wait, then what do I read if I am ignoring everything and everyone posts? |
| 03:47.15 | Corrodias | that's the trick |
| 03:47.28 | Anaral | *sighs* |
| 03:47.46 | Anaral | One day I'll figure it out. |
| 03:56.14 | Neuro_Medivh | there's a solution, but it takes awhile |
| 03:56.47 | Neuro_Medivh | every time you see a stupid post, hit the Ignore button. IIRC, it ignores all posts from that account, if not, it at least ignores that character |
| 03:56.57 | Neuro_Medivh | eventually, all posts will be you and about 5 other people |
| 04:08.55 | Syzgyn | Rofl, my guild is having its first taste of sunwell trash |
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| 04:38.05 | Amarande | Hey, any idea yet if we will be able to upgrade our accounts to WotLK direct from Blizzard on release day? |
| 04:38.18 | Amarande | Or are we going to have to drag ourselves to GameStop and hope they still have a copy by the time real people get out of work? |
| 04:38.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Chances are about 0 |
| 04:38.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Otherwise all of the game retailers would hate blizzard |
| 04:38.39 | Tekkub | you will have to buy the box |
| 04:38.41 | ScytheBlade1 | And they'd lose massive amounts of profits on top of being entirely swamped in traffic |
| 04:38.43 | Amarande | do they actually make more from boxed sales than from direct purchase? |
| 04:38.59 | NightHawkTheSane | huh, isaac hayes was in an episode of siders |
| 04:39.06 | Amarande | other thing I also wonder about gaming industry these days also: |
| 04:39.22 | Tekkub | they wouldn't make as much money if they pissed off the retailers |
| 04:39.24 | Amarande | how much exactly is it that game companies get from ATI/nVidia to promote graphics tech compared to how much they make from sales? :) |
| 04:39.40 | Amarande | Tekkub: I'm also assuming that we will NOT get any 450 profession first achievements if we order ONLINE from GameStop either |
| 04:39.50 | NightHawkTheSane | honestly, its probably contractual between blizz's publisher (vivendi?) and the distributors, making it impossible for blizzard to do that, even if they wanted. |
| 04:39.50 | Amarande | because those will be taken ON 11/13, and we won't get our box till 11/14 even with next day air |
| 04:40.09 | Arrowmaster | they removed all the 'first' achievements i thought |
| 04:40.15 | Tekkub | then don't order online |
| 04:40.16 | Amarande | just the titles |
| 04:40.18 | Amarande | the achievements are there |
| 04:40.22 | Tekkub | how hard is it to go to wally at midnight? |
| 04:40.29 | Tekkub | it's worked fine for me |
| 04:40.30 | Amarande | Tekkub: like I have a snowball's chance of finding a box by the time I get off work on 11/13? |
| 04:40.40 | Corrodias | LOL, just what WoW needed, "first" achievements |
| 04:40.43 | Tekkub | call in gay? |
| 04:40.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: you place far too much import on the "first" achievements. |
| 04:40.56 | Amarande | It's a Thursday ... I'll probably be working till 9:30. |
| 04:41.00 | Tekkub | the "first" achievements are dumb, ays |
| 04:41.11 | Corrodias | don't bother with firsts |
| 04:41.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Corrodias: yeah, its a neat idea, but soooo bad in practice |
| 04:41.15 | Corrodias | stay home and collect porn instead |
| 04:41.15 | Tekkub | first kills sure, give proof that that #1 guild is #1 |
| 04:41.25 | Amarande | ehh, I probably do put too much import on it |
| 04:41.31 | Tekkub | but personal server firsts just encourage retarded addiction :P |
| 04:41.43 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, first raid kills are fine, because a few days/weeks don't actually make much difference in terms of raid progress |
| 04:41.48 | Amarande | except that I'd *like* to have a stab at SOME form of achievement that won't be just something any trade chat retard will have in six months |
| 04:41.50 | Corrodias | and people whining for new realms so they can transfer there and get more firsts |
| 04:42.10 | Amarande | heh Corro ... they activated PvE to PvP transfers, just tell them all to go to Azshara :P |
| 04:42.14 | Corrodias | well thanks, Amarande, for considering us trade chat retards, but i have news for you: you're no better than the rest of the WoW players |
| 04:42.19 | Amarande | I've heard there's like no one who plays there anyway :) |
| 04:42.22 | Corrodias | wake up! :o special people are not all that common |
| 04:42.22 | Dashkal | Amarande: when do you start work? My EB Games (Canadian for GameStop) says they'll likely open early to sell |
| 04:42.36 | Amarande | Dashkal, probably 2 or 3 in the afternoon on a Thursday |
| 04:42.43 | Amarande | not that I'd get to play till after 10 when I got home anyway |
| 04:42.46 | Amarande | so maybe I should just order online heh |
| 04:42.53 | Dashkal | Amarande: If you're starting at 2... go early to buy it? |
| 04:43.26 | Dashkal | If you're finishing then, well, they said if they do open early it'll be at 7am |
| 04:43.33 | Corrodias | WoW fosters a bad attitude among players of wanting things that other people don't |
| 04:43.38 | Corrodias | *don't have |
| 04:43.46 | Tekkub | if you really care about getting a first, do what everyone else does... then you can "proudly" say "I took the day off work and wasted it getting this achievement... see it's shiney and proves I did it" |
| 04:43.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Corrodias: agreed. it really annoys me. |
| 04:44.10 | Dashkal | And quite a few places will do a midnight selling |
| 04:44.14 | Corrodias | thing is, only the top raiders or top pvpers are really "unique" among players of the game |
| 04:44.20 | Tekkub | just go to walmart :P |
| 04:44.31 | Corrodias | and how long does that last? only until you stop being a slave to the game |
| 04:44.39 | Tekkub | if you call that "unique" since they're all the same |
| 04:44.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Corrodias: i actually -loath- the mouth breathers who say stupid things like "wah wah, such-and-such is available to everyone, i want something that makes me a beautiful and unique snowflake" |
| 04:45.07 | Amarande | actually, 450 Mining may be taken BEFORE WOTLK is even out :) |
| 04:45.08 | Corrodias | i'm already beautiful~ |
| 04:45.12 | Amarande | I think you can get there on khorium |
| 04:45.21 | NightHawkTheSane | with what.. 10 million players in the world.. there are no beautiful or unique snowflakes. |
| 04:45.24 | Amarande | if the mining grey-out patterns still hold |
| 04:45.26 | Tekkub | as Yahtzee put it "EVE players are to nerds as nerds are to normal people" just replace that with "hardcore raiders and pvpers" |
| 04:46.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: why? i dont think they'll be bumping skill maxes for the 3.0 release. |
| 04:46.07 | NightHawkTheSane | they didn't for 2.0 i dont believe. |
| 04:46.21 | Corrodias | skill maximums are dependent on your level |
| 04:46.37 | Corrodias | wait, not tradeskils |
| 04:46.37 | Arrowmaster | and dependent on if you can get to the trainer |
| 04:46.38 | Tekkub | huh? |
| 04:46.46 | NightHawkTheSane | well, kind of. |
| 04:46.48 | Amarande | well, in any case, you won't need to go to Northrend to hit 450 mining |
| 04:46.53 | Corrodias | that's dependent on...buying new caps, which are sometimes only available at certain levels |
| 04:47.04 | NightHawkTheSane | profession ranks require certain levels, which up your skill max. |
| 04:47.07 | NightHawkTheSane | but the levels are pretty lax. |
| 04:47.09 | Tekkub | you WILL have to go to NR to raise your max skill to 450 |
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| 04:58.26 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm... |
| 04:59.21 | NightHawkTheSane | am i wrong in thinking that the only way to get the 25 tabard achivement is to either turn in UDE points from the CCG for tabards or pvp for tabards... |
| 04:59.35 | NightHawkTheSane | because ignoring t hose, i only see ~21 tabards? |
| 05:00.10 | Corgan | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?items=4.-7 |
| 05:00.44 | NightHawkTheSane | thats what i'm looking at :p |
| 05:00.56 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm just trying to make sure i'm not missing something. :0 |
| 05:03.48 | Tekkub | people auctioning the hog keys for 300g, that's pretty fucking sad |
| 05:03.58 | Corgan | lol |
| 05:04.14 | ScytheBlade1 | hahaha |
| 05:04.20 | ScytheBlade1 | You know that they're selling though |
| 05:04.27 | NightHawkTheSane | did they remove them from the vendor? or are people just.. stupid.. |
| 05:04.35 | ScytheBlade1 | The latter |
| 05:04.40 | NightHawkTheSane | of course. |
| 05:04.55 | Tekkub | why would you even bother doing it? |
| 05:05.09 | Tekkub | just so you can prove you're gready AND retarded? |
| 05:05.49 | Corrodias | dude. |
| 05:05.54 | Corrodias | that's just more collection, more achievemnet |
| 05:05.58 | Corrodias | and i cannot type |
| 05:06.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Corrodias: yes, and? |
| 05:06.27 | Tekkub | what do you get with the achievement? a tabard with a tabard on it? |
| 05:06.31 | Corrodias | i dunno. i'm doing approximately nothing right now, so even that would be a better use of my time. |
| 05:06.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub: amusingly, you DO get a tabard. :p |
| 05:06.49 | NightHawkTheSane | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=40643 |
| 05:07.14 | Sargeras | pic? |
| 05:07.18 | Tekkub | that's dumb |
| 05:07.23 | NightHawkTheSane | "view in 3d" |
| 05:07.34 | Tekkub | it should be called like.. [Ultimate Tabard] or something |
| 05:07.49 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, the names a bit silly, and i dont particularly care for the design.. |
| 05:07.54 | NightHawkTheSane | but ostensibly, its an easy thing to get. |
| 05:08.00 | Tekkub | [Patchwork Tabard made form other Tabards] |
| 05:08.12 | Tekkub | [Conglomotabard] |
| 05:08.58 | Tekkub | [Alttabard] |
| 05:09.00 | Neuro_Medivh | btw, while this is late, nearly every gamestop in my area had a midnight release party for BC |
| 05:09.19 | Sargeras | goods |
| 05:09.26 | Tekkub | [Worst Tabard Ever] |
| 05:09.26 | Sargeras | the ones in my area werent sure |
| 05:09.31 | Neuro_Medivh | fortunately, I got my copy the day before =) |
| 05:09.39 | Sargeras | but the dude I got my CE from must have been new |
| 05:10.05 | Tekkub | I'm not highly motivated by the CE |
| 05:10.12 | Sargeras | he said "They just might man, I mean, we've sold alot of CE's today... like 15... so we just might have to have a midnight release." |
| 05:10.19 | Tekkub | the Orig CE yes, I still want a fucking panda |
| 05:10.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, awesome application to some guild: http://www.avantgardekj.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5456 |
| 05:10.30 | Neuro_Medivh | the pandas fuck? |
| 05:10.45 | Tekkub | panda fucking ftw |
| 05:10.57 | Neuro_Medivh | like, if you get two panda pets near each other, they procreate? |
| 05:11.03 | Neuro_Medivh | that'd be awesome |
| 05:11.10 | Neuro_Medivh | and it would promote Panda Mating awareness |
| 05:11.13 | Tekkub | and people worry about ME |
| 05:11.15 | Tekkub | ... |
| 05:11.30 | Neuro_Medivh | they only worry about your cholestoral intake, Tekkub... too much bacon |
| 05:11.39 | Neuro_Medivh | totally butchered the spelling of that too |
| 05:12.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub: no, no one worries about you. |
| 05:12.19 | NightHawkTheSane | "cholesterol" |
| 05:12.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Someone should totally start reading that app I linked |
| 05:13.00 | Syzgyn | Reading |
| 05:13.34 | Syzgyn | gogo forum butchering outside links? |
| 05:13.37 | NightHawkTheSane | "but I decided to get a little creative with my application" -> can ONLY go downhill from there. |
| 05:13.45 | ScytheBlade1 | NightHawkTheSane: keep reading |
| 05:13.52 | ScytheBlade1 | I thought the same |
| 05:14.09 | Neuro_Medivh | dude, this is a fucking wall of text |
| 05:14.22 | ScytheBlade1 | It's not just any wall of text |
| 05:14.35 | Syzgyn | Lawl stat listings |
| 05:14.56 | Syzgyn | holy crap she has 3.23% ranged crit! |
| 05:15.55 | Syzgyn | wow...' |
| 05:16.18 | Corgan | lol |
| 05:16.42 | Neuro_Medivh | I like this reply: "if you are a real person that sucks for me, I'll owe someone $20 and have to eat a hat " |
| 05:17.01 | Neuro_Medivh | lol... "I tried to skim through it but that took too long heh " |
| 05:17.05 | Syzgyn | ystems. My first game system was Sega Genesis which I got for Christmas when I was 3 years old. My very first video games were Sonic the hedgehog 2 and Streets of rage 2. hahahaha |
| 05:18.53 | Syzgyn | Goddamn |
| 05:19.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 05:19.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Scroll bar |
| 05:19.42 | NightHawkTheSane | holy christ. |
| 05:19.43 | Syzgyn | I'm gonna put on my guilds app 'What was your first video game system and games' |
| 05:19.51 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: i was totally right, though. downhill. :) |
| 05:20.10 | ScytheBlade1 | However |
| 05:20.21 | ScytheBlade1 | She goes as far as to list her e-mail and her... myspace account |
| 05:20.23 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 05:20.24 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.myspace.com/skyflower321 |
| 05:20.41 | Neuro_Medivh | every female WoW player should have a myspace! |
| 05:20.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Click that link |
| 05:20.59 | ScytheBlade1 | I promise you it does not intrude upon her personal space |
| 05:21.04 | NightHawkTheSane | that link is making safari cry |
| 05:21.07 | ScytheBlade1 | It may eat your browser alive though |
| 05:21.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 05:21.28 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: ... intrude upon her personal space? i dont want to be judgemental, but after that application, im not sure she has any left. :p |
| 05:21.34 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 05:21.38 | ScytheBlade1 | ~NightHawkTheSane++ |
| 05:21.51 | NightHawkTheSane | judgmental* |
| 05:22.13 | Neuro_Medivh | I didn't get far enough in, did she mention her awkward transition from girl into woman? |
| 05:22.29 | Neuro_Medivh | cause it looked about that in depth |
| 05:22.33 | NightHawkTheSane | you know, i dont know, i kinda started skimming it after her experiences leaving the womb. |
| 05:22.37 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't think anyone has |
| 05:23.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Anyone got her "myspace" to load? |
| 05:23.12 | Neuro_Medivh | I did |
| 05:23.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Intially I thought it was Illidan's |
| 05:23.18 | ScytheBlade1 | But whatever |
| 05:23.18 | Neuro_Medivh | works fine with my Firefox |
| 05:23.46 | NightHawkTheSane | jesus, is she embedding every single wow related youtube video on her myspace?! |
| 05:24.32 | Neuro_Medivh | of course. How else will she ever find them again? |
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| 05:25.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow, animated GIFs for every single T4/T5/T6 raid boss |
| 05:25.07 | NightHawkTheSane | touché, salesman. |
| 05:25.09 | ScytheBlade1 | That's impressive |
| 05:25.09 | Neuro_Medivh | of course, reading the replies, I wouldn't want to join that guild |
| 05:25.22 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, me either. |
| 05:26.32 | Neuro_Medivh | I'm guessing Kil'Jaeden is a pvp server |
| 05:26.37 | AnduinLothar | it is |
| 05:26.43 | AnduinLothar | one of the orig 6 |
| 05:26.44 | NightHawkTheSane | you know.. i kinda feel bad for her boyfriend |
| 05:26.44 | Neuro_Medivh | the amount of racial slurs led me to believe that |
| 05:27.10 | Syzgyn | I dunno |
| 05:27.23 | Syzgyn | I'm on one of the original PvP servers too, and its not nearly that bad |
| 05:27.57 | ScytheBlade1 | I've honestly never seen a longer app than that |
| 05:28.16 | Neuro_Medivh | the two times I tried out a pvp server, the top guild was nothing but 'nigger' this and 'jewboy' that... and it permeated from there |
| 05:29.00 | Neuro_Medivh | so I left |
| 05:29.27 | Syzgyn | I think thats more of a Top guild thing than a PvP server thing |
| 05:29.49 | Neuro_Medivh | hmm, dunno.. never had that issue on Medivh or Antonidas |
| 05:29.50 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, i think it's kinda both |
| 05:30.09 | NightHawkTheSane | both tend to elicit the same behavior that leads to that idiocy |
| 05:30.19 | Neuro_Medivh | but Lethon and Anub'erak were both horribly racist at the top levels |
| 05:30.23 | Syzgyn | Yeah, I'm sure being on a PvP server doesnt help |
| 05:30.27 | Syzgyn | but it doesnt start it |
| 05:31.09 | NightHawkTheSane | you find really great people, and real mouth breathing assholes on both pve and pvp servers, but the latter tend to congregate on pvp servers where they can be assholes all the time. |
| 05:31.28 | Syzgyn | True |
| 05:32.06 | NightHawkTheSane | likewise, the kinds of people who are in top raiding guilds tend to be egotistic and arrogant, which leads to that same behavior. |
| 05:32.33 | Syzgyn | Or 14, and able to play that much |
| 05:32.39 | AnduinLothar | haters |
| 05:32.44 | Syzgyn | Hah |
| 05:32.58 | AnduinLothar | dont QQ cause you're jealous |
| 05:33.10 | Syzgyn | Hey, I'm unemployed right now, I could play that much |
| 05:33.13 | Syzgyn | I still dont want to |
| 05:33.59 | NightHawkTheSane | jealous of what? your inability to socialize properly so you gank people, or the fact that you've found 24 other morons with enough free time to kill a few raid bosses? :p |
| 05:37.54 | Corrodias | the latter |
| 05:38.14 | Corrodias | there was some fun to be had in raiding. i don't regret being involved. |
| 05:38.40 | AnduinLothar | wow they buffed the hell out of judgements of the wise... |
| 05:38.52 | AnduinLothar | 20% mana back every time you judge... |
| 05:39.14 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah.. from what i hear, its near impossible to go oom now. probably be nerfed. |
| 05:39.37 | AnduinLothar | i didgundrak 4 times today and didn't drink once aoeing all out the whole time |
| 05:39.48 | AnduinLothar | the first run i had 1900+ dps for the run |
| 05:40.30 | Neuro_Medivh | personally, I enjoy raiding... just hard finding a top-level raiding guild that isn't full of themselves |
| 05:40.51 | AnduinLothar | hard to find a good top level raiding guild period.. |
| 05:41.20 | AnduinLothar | not full of themselves is just a nice perk |
| 05:42.01 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 05:42.19 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm generally okay with a little bit of "full of themselves" i mean, its really hard not to be if you're raiding top tier content. |
| 05:43.01 | Corrodias | you have to have some sense of being awesome to succeed |
| 05:43.03 | NightHawkTheSane | but when that extends into unabashed egotism and arrogance, i get irked. |
| 05:43.50 | Corrodias | that's when you got to go a-bashin' them |
| 05:44.10 | Neuro_Medivh | there's a difference between "Sorry, we really need someone who is properly geared for the content we are doing", and "Your gear SUCKS, you probably suck too, we don't have time for people who suck" |
| 05:45.24 | AnduinLothar | runnign a guild is hard. ruins the best of intentions |
| 05:45.38 | Corrodias | ruins lives |
| 05:46.32 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, it only ruins lives if you let it. |
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| 05:51.52 | Tem | wtf was the point of linking that guild app? |
| 05:51.57 | Tem | there was nothing good in it |
| 05:52.06 | Tem | took fucking forever to read |
| 05:52.33 | NightHawkTheSane | ... im not sure if i hope your joking for your sake, or hope your not, so i can laugh at you. |
| 05:54.46 | Neuro_Medivh | did you actually read it all? |
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| 05:55.35 | NightHawkTheSane | hm. wheres a good place to farm icy dragonscales? |
| 05:56.05 | Sixen | The North Pole, duh! |
| 05:56.12 | NightHawkTheSane | ~lart Sixen |
| 05:56.12 | purl | beats Sixen over the head with a microkernel |
| 05:56.30 | Sixen | :( |
| 05:57.48 | Neuro_Medivh | NightHawkTheSane: I'd try Icy Dragons |
| 05:57.56 | NightHawkTheSane | ... |
| 05:58.00 | NightHawkTheSane | ~LART Neuro_Medivh |
| 05:58.00 | purl | turns Neuro_Medivh into a lifesized tux doll |
| 05:58.18 | Neuro_Medivh | wut? am i rong? |
| 05:59.57 | Syzgyn | Dragons of the icy persuasion? |
| 06:00.06 | NightHawkTheSane | i am going to murder all of you :) |
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| 06:01.50 | Neuro_Medivh | OH, I see now.. they come from Proto-drakes in Howling Fjord! Hope that helps |
| 06:02.43 | Sixen | (10:58:12 PM) Neuro_Medivh: NightHawkTheSane: I'd try Icy Dragons |
| 06:02.44 | Sixen | win |
| 06:02.56 | NightHawkTheSane | so. much. hate. |
| 06:03.00 | Sixen | I fail. |
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| 06:06.10 | Tem | Neuro_Medivh, how funny would it be if I _had_ read it all? |
| 06:08.15 | Tem | Okay, best use of the title system ever |
| 06:08.21 | Neuro_Medivh | I'm not entirely sure 'funny' would be the proper word |
| 06:08.23 | Tem | get the title "The Explorer" |
| 06:08.31 | Tem | and rename your toon "Dora" |
| 06:09.20 | NightHawkTheSane | oh man, thats epic. |
| 06:10.20 | Tem | oh damnit |
| 06:10.27 | Tem | the title is Explorer <name> |
| 06:11.00 | Neuro_Medivh | curses! Foiled again! |
| 06:11.14 | Tem | I'm going to have to find a server where that name isn't taken |
| 06:11.18 | Tem | so I can make a suggestion post |
| 06:11.20 | Tem | to have it renamed |
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| 06:12.56 | Duman | whee |
| 06:17.15 | Duman | I wonder how soon this week we'll see a patch |
| 06:18.48 | Corrodias | EVEN AS WE SPEAK |
| 06:19.06 | nevcairiel | we had one on the weekend, i doubt before thur/fr |
| 06:20.13 | Duman | They need to fix the TC glyph |
| 06:20.17 | Tem | we had one wedyesday |
| 06:20.25 | Tem | and one frida |
| 06:20.26 | Tem | y |
| 06:20.31 | Tem | oy I can't type |
| 06:20.36 | Duman | hehe |
| 06:20.41 | Tem | server back yet? |
| 06:20.55 | Tem | I'm getting sick of trying servers to find one where dora isn't taken |
| 06:21.10 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 06:21.23 | Corrodias | your mom is taken |
| 06:21.41 | Tem | I guess Dhora will do |
| 06:21.44 | Corrodias | what are you, dora the explora? |
| 06:22.24 | ccox | or 'dorable |
| 06:23.10 | Tem | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10043281174&postId=100420589308&sid=2000#0 |
| 06:23.13 | Corrodias | aaaaaaaaw |
| 06:23.30 | Duman | haha |
| 06:23.32 | Duman | LEVEL ZERO |
| 06:23.38 | Duman | "She watches channel ZERO" |
| 06:24.04 | Duman | +t |
| 06:24.08 | Tem | I wonder how many people who aren't in this channel will get that joke |
| 06:24.25 | nevcairiel | I wouldnt |
| 06:24.37 | nevcairiel | but then again noone knows that thing here |
| 06:24.37 | Corrodias | i don't get it |
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| 06:24.40 | Tem | are you american? |
| 06:24.42 | nevcairiel | i had to google to figure out wtf |
| 06:24.47 | Duman | I'm too old |
| 06:25.04 | nevcairiel | I'm not american, no =P |
| 06:25.14 | Corrodias | i am american, and have no idea what you're talking about |
| 06:25.28 | Tem | http://www.nickjr.co.uk/shows/dora/index.aspx |
| 06:25.46 | Arrowmaster | did you make a char then copy it to get that name? |
| 06:25.58 | Duman | no, just create a toon and don't log in |
| 06:26.01 | Corrodias | i know dora |
| 06:26.09 | Corrodias | i don't know what channel zero is supposed to be |
| 06:26.16 | Duman | aww |
| 06:26.27 | Neuro_Medivh | you're not SUPPOSED to know what Channel 0 is |
| 06:26.41 | Neuro_Medivh | cause, yer not 1337 enough |
| 06:26.51 | Duman | heh |
| 06:27.07 | Duman | well, I was referrign to the song |
| 06:27.27 | Neuro_Medivh | "What's channel zero?" 'Can't tell you, it's a secret' "Shuttt upppp!" |
| 06:27.45 | Corrodias | "the song?" |
| 06:27.57 | Duman | well, rap song |
| 06:27.59 | Duman | Public Enemy |
| 06:28.10 | Tem | ROFL |
| 06:28.14 | Tem | another dora responded |
| 06:28.34 | nevcairiel | i bet its someone from here |
| 06:28.49 | Tem | it's someone with a level 76 dora |
| 06:28.52 | Tem | so I bet not |
| 06:28.58 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 06:28.59 | Tem | on Lich King |
| 06:29.15 | Corrodias | and what is this explorer title? |
| 06:29.48 | NightHawkTheSane | you have to explore everywhere, basically |
| 06:29.52 | End | heh @ xkcd |
| 06:29.55 | Tem | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?achievement=46 |
| 06:30.01 | Corrodias | my druid would very nearly qualify for that |
| 06:30.08 | End | Although, I don't think my phone even has a ring tone ring tone (but I always leave it on vibrate) |
| 06:30.33 | nevcairiel | I have all outland and classic wow explored |
| 06:30.38 | nevcairiel | so only northrend to go |
| 06:31.22 | Tem | northrend is easy |
| 06:31.28 | NightHawkTheSane | northrend and outland are easy. |
| 06:31.38 | Tem | it took me about 30m to complete my northrend achievement once I had my mount |
| 06:31.38 | NightHawkTheSane | classic will be.. obnoxious, if you dont already have it. |
| 06:31.39 | Corrodias | "Some achievements come with in-game rewards such as tabards, vanity pets, and titles. All of these rewards are purely cosmetic and just for fun, but youll certainly stand out when you proudly display them." |
| 06:31.42 | Corrodias | ^ lies |
| 06:33.07 | End | there was a goddamn tiny bit of land I had missed in bloodmyst isle |
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| 06:40.32 | Kajas | how can I figure out how many entries are in a table without having to loop through it every time I need to find out? |
| 06:40.48 | Kajas | print (#table_name) always shows "0" |
| 06:40.59 | MentalPower | no other way |
| 06:41.10 | Kajas | eww |
| 06:41.17 | MentalPower | #table only works for integer index type tables |
| 06:41.43 | MentalPower | the real question is why do you need to know? |
| 06:41.45 | Kajas | by interger index you mean instead of giving the table key a string name, using int instead? |
| 06:42.04 | Kajas | To understand how tables work in lua better |
| 06:42.16 | MentalPower | lua> #({"","","","","","",""}) |
| 06:42.17 | lua_bot | MentalPower: 7 |
| 06:42.25 | Kajas | because they're obviously much different than what I use in C# |
| 06:42.51 | MentalPower | lua> #({[1]="",[2]="",[3]="",[4]="",[5]="",[6]="",[7]=""}) |
| 06:42.51 | lua_bot | MentalPower: 7 |
| 06:42.55 | MentalPower | trust me, they are |
| 06:43.41 | MentalPower | lua> #({[table]="",[string]="",[_G]"",[io]="",[5]="",[6]="",[7]=""}) |
| 06:43.41 | lua_bot | MentalPower: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '#' |
| 06:43.58 | Kajas | what does '#' actually do? because when I try something like tbl={} ; tbl.key="value"; tbl.key2="value2" and try #tbl, it shows a "0" |
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| 06:44.18 | MentalPower | it gives you the size of the array part of the table |
| 06:44.36 | Kajas | what are var only entries, if I read right.. or am I wrong? |
| 06:44.46 | MentalPower | actually, that's not true |
| 06:44.54 | Kajas | oh.. *sigh* |
| 06:44.59 | End | ok |
| 06:45.01 | End | note to self: |
| 06:45.06 | End | dismiss pet before using barbar shop |
| 06:45.13 | Kajas | lol, what happened? |
| 06:45.30 | End | my pet is sitting on my lap |
| 06:45.44 | MentalPower | The length of a table t is defined to be any integer index n such that t[n] is not nil and t[n+1] is nil; moreover, if t[1] is nil, n can be zero. For a regular array, with non-nil values from 1 to a given n, its length is exactly that n, the index of its last value. If the array has "holes" (that is, nil values between other non-nil values), then #t can be any of the indices that directly... |
| 06:45.47 | MentalPower | ...precedes a nil value (that is, it may consider any such nil value as the end of the array). |
| 06:45.53 | MentalPower | the technical definition |
| 06:47.41 | Kajas | this is so frustrating.. didn't think the change from .NET to lua would be this drastic |
| 06:48.03 | Kajas | but thank you for the def.. it clears up a bit of clouds |
| 06:48.20 | ccox | reasons why # operator is nearly useless |
| 06:48.45 | MentalPower | lua> local t = {} for i=1, 10000 do t[i+1000] = true end print(#t) |
| 06:48.45 | lua_bot | MentalPower: 11000 |
| 06:49.01 | MentalPower | oh wow... |
| 06:49.03 | Duman | whoa |
| 06:49.06 | Duman | it's not sparse? |
| 06:49.07 | MentalPower | lua> local t = {} for i=1, 10000 do t[i+1000000] = true end print(#t) |
| 06:49.08 | lua_bot | MentalPower: 0 |
| 06:49.15 | MentalPower | lua> local t = {} for i=1, 10000 do t[i+100000] = true end print(#t) |
| 06:49.16 | lua_bot | MentalPower: 0 |
| 06:49.19 | Duman | uh |
| 06:49.24 | MentalPower | lua> local t = {} for i=1, 10000 do t[i+10000] = true end print(#t) |
| 06:49.25 | lua_bot | MentalPower: 0 |
| 06:49.29 | MentalPower | lua> local t = {} for i=1, 10000 do t[i+1000] = true end print(#t) |
| 06:49.29 | lua_bot | MentalPower: 11000 |
| 06:49.34 | MentalPower | I thought it would be... |
| 06:49.58 | MentalPower | time for some local memory usage test |
| 06:50.45 | MentalPower | ~pil |
| 06:50.46 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 06:51.01 | MentalPower | Kajas: pick yerself up a copy of that :) its *very* useful |
| 06:51.23 | Kajas | would but no income :'( damn economy |
| 06:51.32 | Kajas | all I have is the WoW Programming book |
| 06:51.42 | Kajas | but I can get the 1st edition |
| 06:53.12 | Neuro_Medivh | the entire book is online I believe |
| 06:53.22 | Neuro_Medivh | or maybe that's the reference manual |
| 06:53.23 | End | older editions are |
| 06:53.32 | End | the newest edition isn't online though |
| 06:53.52 | End | the newest edition covers stuff like #t and other 5.1 stuff |
| 06:54.11 | End | so, most of the time you can just use the older edition |
| 06:54.16 | End | except, when you can't :P |
| 06:54.56 | Neuro_Medivh | you could also check the local library |
| 06:55.03 | Kajas | Now that I can do |
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| 07:05.07 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, raid group just got the conquerer of nax achievement |
| 07:14.26 | Neuro_Medivh | cool |
| 07:14.44 | Neuro_Medivh | did they, in fact, conquer naxx? |
| 07:15.12 | NightHawkTheSane | i would assume? |
| 07:15.25 | NightHawkTheSane | it announced the realm first achievement all over. |
| 07:15.55 | Neuro_Medivh | ah, you sounded surprised, as if it was in error |
| 07:16.28 | End | in surprise |
| 07:16.47 | Neuro_Medivh | i c wut u did thar |
| 07:18.53 | NightHawkTheSane | i was more surprised that it hadn't been done before.. |
| 07:19.15 | End | pvp or pve realm? |
| 07:19.38 | NightHawkTheSane | northrend |
| 07:19.39 | NightHawkTheSane | so pve |
| 07:19.41 | End | ah |
| 07:19.56 | End | I think all the firsts have been on pvp alliance |
| 07:20.31 | End | I'm a little suprised there aren't more people trying to clear on pve, but the ones announced on mmo-champion are on pvp |
| 07:21.31 | End | (I also know that there's only one guild that will get any realm firsts on my realm when wotlk finally comes out) |
| 07:22.56 | Syzgyn | Same here End :P |
| 07:23.15 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 07:23.16 | End | I wish it was Faction first :P |
| 07:23.19 | Syzgyn | heh |
| 07:23.23 | End | it's not even my faction |
| 07:23.29 | NightHawkTheSane | honestly, i think everyone knows that on each realm the same guild will probably get most, if not all, the realm firsts. |
| 07:23.38 | Syzgyn | I dunno |
| 07:23.43 | End | for a LONG time we had twice as many alliance guilds raiding as horde guilds |
| 07:23.53 | End | we still have more alliance guilds, but the gap is less absurd |
| 07:23.57 | Syzgyn | The guild that got all the firsts pre-BC died halfway through BT |
| 07:24.04 | Syzgyn | on my server |
| 07:24.06 | End | this won't happen |
| 07:24.07 | NightHawkTheSane | its like that on most realms, end |
| 07:24.14 | Syzgyn | You never know :P |
| 07:24.28 | End | ok |
| 07:24.36 | End | it'll happen if there's a pve-based WoW killer |
| 07:24.44 | Syzgyn | lol |
| 07:25.05 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, that'll happen |
| 07:25.26 | End | eventually, but not any time soon |
| 07:25.36 | Syzgyn | You still never know |
| 07:25.42 | Syzgyn | then GM might finally get tired of it |
| 07:25.42 | End | I highly doubt in the lifetime of wrath |
| 07:25.50 | Syzgyn | Or any other number of things |
| 07:26.34 | End | well, these are guys that will raid-powerlevel characters to get realm first level 80s |
| 07:26.40 | End | I know because they did that for 70 :P |
| 07:27.25 | Syzgyn | Just saying, things change |
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| 08:00.29 | NightHawkTheSane | hm. edamame are not particularly filling |
| 08:03.07 | elite3vil | They're yummy though! |
| 08:03.35 | elite3vil | I usually get some as an appetizer when I go out for sushi |
| 08:03.41 | elite3vil | om nom nom |
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| 08:07.37 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, they're definitely yummy. |
| 08:07.43 | NightHawkTheSane | but not.. filling. |
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| 08:08.48 | elite3vil | So.. eat something else! =D |
| 08:09.28 | NightHawkTheSane | its 1 am.. im lazy, and want to go to bed as soon as this episode of sliders is over |
| 08:10.47 | elite3vil | Fine! Starve! |
| 08:10.49 | elite3vil | =P |
| 08:11.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Fine! I will! |
| 08:11.24 | NightHawkTheSane | ;) |
| 08:12.41 | elite3vil | Should've made it three. |
| 08:12.49 | NightHawkTheSane | probably |
| 08:13.12 | NeoTron | so we just killed gothik. I was specced blood and it was a pain. respecced unholy and I was top dps for the trash phase :P |
| 08:13.23 | elite3vil | mm I haven't had jäger since.. three halloweens ago. |
| 08:14.02 | NightHawkTheSane | its pretty awesome if you drop it into jones soda |
| 08:14.08 | NightHawkTheSane | like fufu berry or something |
| 08:14.17 | elite3vil | mm |
| 08:14.27 | elite3vil | Okay.. enough talk of jäger |
| 08:14.43 | elite3vil | or else I'll have to go get some.. and that won't be easy at 4:15am. =P |
| 08:16.43 | Amarande | elite3vil, thanks for making me drink :| |
| 08:17.01 | Syzgyn | I've got a bottle of Jager 5 feet away from me >_> |
| 08:17.39 | Amarande | Night folks :) |
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| 08:18.37 | NightHawkTheSane | elite3vil: it tastes like jellybeans! |
| 08:18.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Syzgyn: go get some jones soda, trust me! |
| 08:19.04 | elite3vil | Syzgyn: Doesn't help me much, seeing as you're ~18 hours away! =P |
| 08:19.20 | elite3vil | NightHawkTheSane: Look around, do you see any fires handy? |
| 08:21.25 | NightHawkTheSane | elite3vil: who said anything about fires? |
| 08:21.26 | zenzio | I was walking down the street on the way to work today, listening to my MP3 player as usual, when the Hitman 2 action music started playing. Before I could think about it I was crouched behind a corner trying to determine who had spotted me |
| 08:21.40 | elite3vil | hahaha |
| 08:21.54 | elite3vil | That's pretty much win right there. |
| 08:24.12 | elite3vil | NightHawkTheSane: I'm asking, because if there's one nearby I'd like you to die in it. |
| 08:25.07 | elite3vil | =) |
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| 08:32.41 | NightHawkTheSane | elite3vil: haha... sorry, i'm actually completely out of matches, and my lighter is busted :p |
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| 10:02.46 | Nom- | wow... Comcast subscribers need to harden the @#$! up :/ |
| 10:02.58 | Nom- | I WISH I could get 250GB a month for $50 |
| 10:04.59 | Maldivia | I'm capped at 669.6 GB/month |
| 10:05.23 | Nom- | I'm paying $120 a month for 80GB |
| 10:05.40 | Nom- | which is around $100 USD |
| 10:06.05 | foxlit | Nom-: comcast customers are not on an island of ex-convicts :) |
| 10:06.26 | Nom- | And even I find it hard to use that much... i'm sitting at 85%, with 2 days 6 hours to reset, and I don't have anything left to download this month |
| 10:06.44 | Maldivia | Nom-: well, my limit is imposted by the fact that I only have a 2Mbit downstream - so the 669gb is the theoretical maximum I can download over 31 days :) |
| 10:07.25 | Nom- | Mode: G.992.1 (G.DMT) |
| 10:07.26 | Nom- | Upload: 928 Kbps. |
| 10:07.26 | Nom- | Download: 6336 Kbps. |
| 10:07.40 | Nom- | That's the speed I get too... I cap at just under 620KB/sec |
| 10:08.05 | Nom- | So I have a link which is 3 times faster, and I can't find enough to use 80GB :P |
| 10:09.15 | zenzio | is the Comcast cap download only, or combined up/down? |
| 10:09.16 | Nom- | I expect the plans will change here soon... the reason our plans kind of suck at the moment is due to international bandwidth prices |
| 10:10.17 | Nom- | With 2 new cables going in between Australia and the US, competition will bring the prices down |
| 10:11.04 | Nom- | I just wonder... wtf could you be downloading if 250GB a month is a problem? |
| 10:11.15 | Nom- | Streaming HD porn 24 hours a day or something? |
| 10:26.49 | Fisker- | Nom- i can get inf GB/month for ~70$ |
| 10:26.50 | Fisker- | or so |
| 10:26.56 | Fisker- | inf GB = win GB |
| 10:27.53 | Fisker- | where's my kd3 ? |
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| 10:58.54 | Maldivia | hmm.. where are all our resto druids today? |
| 11:01.02 | Fisker- | dead and buried |
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| 12:51.53 | Punkie | greetings |
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| 13:08.16 | Maldivia | greetings Punkie |
| 13:15.46 | zenzio | hai peppy |
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| 13:19.26 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, zenzio. How's your Monday? |
| 13:20.04 | zenzio | not bad, yours? |
| 13:21.47 | Lopeppeppy | Meh. Monday's happen, and then it gets to be Tuesday. |
| 13:23.01 | zenzio | now I'm torn... |
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| 13:23.28 | zenzio | between trying to cheer you up, or point at the apostrophe |
| 13:27.30 | Lopeppeppy | Yay, I had some bad grammar for breakfast! |
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| 13:42.28 | [Liquidor] | How many characters can a character name be? (max length?) |
| 13:42.52 | zenzio | 12 or something? |
| 13:43.48 | |pez| | pez wants sleep |
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| 13:44.28 | zenzio | yeah, 12 according to the FAQ |
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| 14:00.57 | cladhaire | lol |
| 14:01.06 | cbreak | I wonder how character name length is influenced by the fact that it can contain multi byte glyphs. |
| 14:01.07 | cladhaire | we just destroyed an 1884 rating rogue/druid |
| 14:01.09 | cladhaire | I drank them to death |
| 14:03.41 | krka | sounds like a futurama episode to me |
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| 14:23.59 | wereHamster | "let's make that an enum, we'll define that later" - "but how can you do that" (after two semesters of java programing courses) *cry* |
| 14:24.22 | cbreak | java :/ |
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| 14:27.33 | wereHamster | our "interface working group", trying to come up with a usable interface between two components. They've been now discussing for two days - without any meaningful result |
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