| 00:00.01 | smcn | my impression of tigole on the forums today: KILLING SPREE! RAMPAGE! DOMINATING! UNSTOPPABLE! |
| 00:00.19 | NightHawkTheSane | isn't it great! |
| 00:01.34 | Keias | lol |
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| 00:05.44 | cbreak | shizophrenic |
| 00:05.59 | Diao | o_O |
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| 00:07.11 | NightHawkTheSane | "It's one constant about every America we visit." "Yeah, the health care system always sucks." |
| 00:07.39 | foxlit | Does. not. parse. |
| 00:08.23 | NightHawkTheSane | (sliders quote) |
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| 01:01.14 | Shirik | ow |
| 01:01.16 | Shirik | owwwwwwwwwwwwwww |
| 01:01.24 | Shirik | email received from Lua mailing list: |
| 01:01.39 | Shirik | Can Lua do this? |
| 01:01.40 | Shirik | Add from a variable variable data to an existing array (table) of an |
| 01:01.40 | Shirik | array (table) in a variable of an exiting array (table) in a variable. |
| 01:01.51 | Shirik | too many variable and array in the same sentence >< |
| 01:01.56 | Jamash | wuh buh |
| 01:02.29 | ccox | Guessing english was not the primary language... |
| 01:02.35 | Jamash | I got my very first user bug report for my addon |
| 01:03.33 | Corrodias | "this addon sucks" |
| 01:03.39 | Corrodias | "fix it" |
| 01:05.05 | Jamash | yeah it's more specific than that |
| 01:05.07 | Tekkub | "I need to know all your toons' names to fix this |
| 01:05.21 | Neuro_Medivh | perhaps there is a flag set incorrectly... 'local addon_sucks = true' |
| 01:06.26 | Corrodias | i need to know your account name and password so i can... log in and test it |
| 01:06.27 | foxlit | UI forum posts about /if macro command are odd :/ |
| 01:06.37 | Jamash | LearningAid.lua:505: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) |
| 01:06.37 | Jamash | LearningAid-20400\LearningAid.lua:402: in function `func' |
| 01:06.37 | Jamash | Interface\FrameXML\SecureTemplates.lua:363: in function `SecureActionButton_OnClick': |
| 01:06.37 | Jamash | LearningAid.lua:505: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) LearningAid.lua:402: in function `func' Interface\FrameXML\SecureTemplates.lua:363: in function `SecureActionButton_OnClick': <string>:"*:OnClick":1: in function <[string "*:OnClick"]:1> |
| 01:07.01 | Jamash | er |
| 01:07.39 | Jamash | that got mangled a bit |
| 01:07.47 | Jamash | but yeah at least he provided the error message |
| 01:07.54 | Corrodias | good, good |
| 01:08.44 | Jamash | unfortunately I have no idea what could be generating that message |
| 01:09.13 | Shirik | tsk tsk Jamash |
| 01:09.22 | Shirik | careful about posting that much at once :) |
| 01:10.02 | Jamash | didn't mean to spam :O |
| 01:10.55 | Jamash | I did a lot of renaming variables last version, that could have something to do with it |
| 01:13.38 | Jamash | sometimes I wish I had GM powers, it would make testing my addon so much easier |
| 01:13.54 | Jamash | it only triggers when the player learns a new spell or ability |
| 01:14.34 | Shirik | make a level 1 |
| 01:15.32 | Jamash | bleh |
| 01:15.50 | Jamash | what I've been doing is respeccing on beta since it's free |
| 01:38.15 | NightHawkTheSane | hm. did they buff base hit points or something in beta? |
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| 01:40.40 | Keias | I noticed a big jump in HP also, NightHawkTheSane |
| 01:40.46 | Keias | Rogue went from 16k to 20k |
| 01:41.27 | Keias | Unless they boosted stats on the gear |
| 01:41.49 | NightHawkTheSane | maybe. i just noticed a jump in hp on both my dk and shaman |
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| 01:47.04 | Corrodias | find value at farm and fleet |
| 01:47.14 | Corrodias | DO IT NOW |
| 01:57.09 | Dashkal | My DK improved as well. Thought it was frost presense at first but I had a good 2k more without than I used to. |
| 01:58.01 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, there has to have been some across the board health/sta buff |
| 01:58.46 | kd3 | jesus, I didn't even notice. I'm at 11k as a mage |
| 01:58.47 | kd3 | wth |
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| 02:12.33 | NightHawkTheSane | i wish you could mill different herbs of the same 'class' together >< |
| 02:12.44 | Duman | nighthawk: no kidding |
| 02:12.55 | Duman | I have these "wasted" stacks of 1-4 |
| 02:12.57 | Mike-N-Go | nevcairiel: A quick question: How can one get their XP bar to show if Bartender 4 hides it? I am asking on account of a friend. |
| 02:13.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Duman: i know :\ |
| 02:19.49 | ScytheBlade1 | yay for MS technet not working /at all/ |
| 02:19.55 | ScytheBlade1 | "An error has occured" and... that's it |
| 02:24.46 | Kraps | MS errors r srs bsnss |
| 02:24.57 | Kraps | works now |
| 02:44.35 | Neuro_Medivh | didn't WAR release this week? Haven't heard a thing about it on the boards |
| 02:45.14 | Cide | that's because it killed wow |
| 02:45.24 | Cide | everybody quit to play it instead |
| 02:45.51 | Neuro_Medivh | ah |
| 02:45.52 | NightHawkTheSane | its true. |
| 02:53.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Anyone know offhand where I can buy some microprocessor based smart cards..? |
| 02:53.58 | ScytheBlade1 | google just turns up laptops with readers -.- |
| 02:55.59 | NightHawkTheSane | something like http://www.usasmartcard.com/component/option,com_virtuemart/page,shop.browse/category_id,6/Itemid,26/ ? |
| 02:56.47 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ "VISTA READY" |
| 02:57.17 | NightHawkTheSane | i just googled for "smart card purchase", btw |
| 02:57.30 | ScytheBlade1 | That's the thing, most of the cards you see are memory based |
| 02:57.37 | ScytheBlade1 | ie, read and write whatever you please, no exceptions |
| 02:58.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Finding one that is an actual microprocessor is a bit harder :/ |
| 02:58.14 | NightHawkTheSane | sorry :\ |
| 02:58.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Eh no worries |
| 02:58.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Not like I'm paying you for an answer, haha |
| 02:58.43 | NightHawkTheSane | oh.. but you were... i've deducted my fee from your account. ;) |
| 02:58.54 | ScytheBlade1 | I see |
| 03:22.27 | |Jelly| | There a slash command to booting someone from the group? |
| 03:22.36 | Corrodias | /dowhatiwant |
| 03:23.14 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:23.38 | |Jelly| | Hmm. |
| 03:25.27 | |Jelly| | Could I use "/script UninviteUnit(UnitName("target")) |
| 03:25.38 | |Jelly| | I'm ... essentially making a macro to boot someone from the group. |
| 03:25.40 | |Jelly| | <33 |
| 03:26.03 | NightHawkTheSane | probably... try? |
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| 03:29.17 | kd3 | zomg; internal infoz: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10043250107&sid=2000#2 |
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| 03:32.07 | ScytheBlade1 | wtb more internal infoz |
| 03:33.43 | ScytheBlade1 | People who ask if server restarts will fix their graphical terrain issues make my head hurt |
| 03:35.00 | NightHawkTheSane | ... when did the chain lightning cooldown get reduced to 3.5s? |
| 03:36.03 | Neuro_Medivh | last build I believe |
| 03:37.17 | NightHawkTheSane | thats kinda neat. |
| 03:39.17 | Neuro_Medivh | NightHawkTheSane, you are elemental spec? |
| 03:39.49 | NightHawkTheSane | at the moment, yes. |
| 03:40.02 | NightHawkTheSane | none of my talents -say- they decrease the CD, though |
| 03:40.21 | Neuro_Medivh | chain lightning's cooldown is because of Storm, Earth, and Fire apparently, though it's not listed in the tooltip, thus it might be a bug |
| 03:40.35 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm. |
| 03:41.28 | NightHawkTheSane | i guess if it was .5s per point, that'd make sense. |
| 03:41.38 | Duman | beta still slower than molasses? |
| 03:41.42 | Mike-N-Go | Tekkub: Ping. |
| 03:41.50 | Tekkub | ow |
| 03:41.50 | Neuro_Medivh | and it's NOT increasing the dmg on l-bolt, so it might just be a bug |
| 03:42.43 | Neuro_Medivh | cause let's face it, what are the odds they actually BUFFED shaman? |
| 03:43.24 | NightHawkTheSane | about the same chance that morons would whine about it anyway. |
| 03:44.39 | Mike-N-Go | I have an idea for TourGuide. Someone could make guides that direct one in picking up the quests for instances. I'll use BRD as an example: Pick up all the quests that one can, go into BRD and do them, turn them in, pick up the chains after it, etc. |
| 03:44.53 | Neuro_Medivh | Mike: write it up |
| 03:45.04 | Neuro_Medivh | TG is easy to write guides for |
| 03:45.50 | Tekkub | what Neuro said |
| 03:47.44 | Mike-N-Go | I think I will look into that. I'll read your "How to edit TourGuide guides" and work on this as I have time. |
| 03:48.04 | Mike-N-Go | Tekkub: After I make a guide, how do I push it to you? |
| 03:48.39 | Tekkub | github, or better yet make your own addon so I don't have to maintain it |
| 03:50.08 | Mike-N-Go | Can TourGuide load guides from another addon? |
| 03:50.18 | Tekkub | yes |
| 03:50.46 | Mike-N-Go | Okay, I'll take a look at your docs and let you know if there is something I do not understand. |
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| 03:52.56 | Neuro_Medivh | is beta up right now? I saw they were trying to hotfix something |
| 03:53.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Hotfixes don't require restarts |
| 03:53.15 | ScytheBlade1 | That said it should be up again |
| 03:54.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Also, it's kinda fun how we can access the PTR servers from the beta client |
| 03:57.58 | Dashkal | Can we go to northrend on them? |
| 03:58.14 | kd3 | presumably |
| 03:59.18 | NightHawkTheSane | i'd say unlikely |
| 04:00.08 | NightHawkTheSane | the zepps/ships probably arn't on |
| 04:03.21 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm |
| 04:03.47 | NightHawkTheSane | note to self, when flying from BT->HF, be careful of fatique over the sea |
| 04:06.47 | Dashkal | yeah, looks like the ship just doesn't come |
| 04:06.56 | Dashkal | NightHawkTheSane: aww, they fixed that? |
| 04:07.18 | Corrodias | how can you be careful of it? |
| 04:07.24 | Corrodias | flight paths are not alterable, are they? |
| 04:07.33 | NightHawkTheSane | who said any thing about a flight path? |
| 04:10.17 | Corrodias | when flying from |
| 04:10.46 | Corrodias | i just assumed that standard policy is not to continue flying on your mount until the point that it kills you |
| 04:12.32 | NightHawkTheSane | well i wasn't paying attention ;) |
| 04:12.42 | NightHawkTheSane | i just set a direction and went to grab a drink |
| 04:12.50 | Tekkub | and you paid for it |
| 04:13.06 | NightHawkTheSane | indeed |
| 04:13.37 | Neuro_Medivh | was it a tasty beverage? |
| 04:13.43 | NightHawkTheSane | it was indeed |
| 04:14.31 | Neuro_Medivh | and speaking of libations... I believe I shall have one myself |
| 04:24.04 | Syzgyn | Dang, I got a nice sized burn on my hand tonight |
| 04:24.11 | Syzgyn | And some singed hair |
| 04:24.19 | Tekkub | poor hair |
| 04:24.59 | Syzgyn | about a 2 inch square on my forearm thats all but gone |
| 04:25.16 | Syzgyn | and I'm pretty sure some on my head got burnt too |
| 04:25.57 | Syzgyn | It was worth it though |
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| 04:28.39 | Duman | yo |
| 04:28.43 | Duman | how be the beta lag? |
| 04:29.08 | Syzgyn | About 4 seconds |
| 04:29.10 | kd3 | northrend was horrendous earlier |
| 04:29.17 | Duman | yeah :-/ |
| 04:29.43 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:30.04 | Duman | yeah, that world server is overloaded ;-) |
| 04:30.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Just a hair |
| 04:30.42 | ScytheBlade1 | And I really want to play too |
| 04:30.46 | Duman | I need to farm herbs, hmm |
| 04:30.48 | Syzgyn | omg bolvar dies?? |
| 04:30.59 | Syzgyn | ./sadpanda |
| 04:32.39 | Corrodias | choose any major character. he/she will be killed, probably by a raid, in a near expansion |
| 04:33.41 | Syzgyn | thats probably more accurate than not :\ |
| 04:40.16 | Neuro_Medivh | ah, Burger King dbl stacker, you most perfect of foods |
| 04:40.51 | Dashkal | meh, looks like some random router died... Parts of the internet won't load |
| 04:41.45 | Corrodias | i love when that happens |
| 04:42.19 | Dashkal | Oh good, they rebooted the thing :p |
| 04:43.13 | Corrodias | did it fix your graphical terrain issues? ;) |
| 04:43.30 | NightHawkTheSane | why yes, yes it did. |
| 04:43.37 | NightHawkTheSane | it's a CHRISTMAS MIRACLE! |
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| 04:47.49 | Duman | this lag makes babyjesus cry |
| 04:47.58 | ScytheBlade1 | That's why I logged |
| 04:48.05 | NightHawkTheSane | thats why im instancing |
| 04:48.07 | ScytheBlade1 | I mean, what's the point? |
| 04:49.06 | Corrodias | you mean that's why you... LAGGED! hahaha |
| 04:49.31 | Syzgyn | Zing! |
| 04:49.43 | Syzgyn | Aaaand server go boom |
| 04:50.30 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:50.31 | Neuro_Medivh | I blame Canada |
| 04:51.07 | kd3 | the server guys need to stop playing quake on that hardware... >.> |
| 04:51.10 | Syzgyn | I Blame... Shirik |
| 04:51.31 | ScytheBlade1 | I can understand all of the debuf stuff slowing it down |
| 04:51.40 | ScytheBlade1 | But I really wish that they didn't let that many people in |
| 04:51.44 | kd3 | damn it, neill. let me do my 12-hour race event |
| 04:51.48 | ScytheBlade1 | I want to keep leveling but I can't |
| 04:55.37 | Tekkub | GET OFF MY BETA LAWN |
| 05:00.25 | Adys | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10043250180&sid=2000 |
| 05:00.35 | Adys | is there a way in the API to distinguish between mount types/speeds? |
| 05:00.43 | Adys | (beta) |
| 05:01.04 | NightHawkTheSane | only tooltip parsing, afaik |
| 05:01.05 | Duman | scan the tooltips :-/ |
| 05:01.15 | Adys | ughn |
| 05:01.18 | NightHawkTheSane | or, use a locally stored database of spell id -> mount type/speed |
| 05:01.21 | Duman | you can probably do it from just the riding level needed |
| 05:01.22 | NightHawkTheSane | (which is what i did) |
| 05:01.35 | Duman | and one-off any others |
| 05:01.50 | NightHawkTheSane | Duman: that doesnt help if you're parsing the buff tooltip or companion tooltip |
| 05:02.14 | Duman | hmm, that's true - forgot the companion tooltip has nothing useful on it |
| 05:02.52 | Duman | well, since the companion stuff is all new, perhaps tehy will add an apicall that will return mount info ;) |
| 05:02.55 | NightHawkTheSane | well it has the basic "this can only be used in outlands/northrend" and "this is a very fast mount" stuff |
| 05:03.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Duman: its, unlikely at this point. |
| 05:03.19 | Duman | ok, maybe not for 3.0 release |
| 05:06.37 | Tem | ROFL |
| 05:06.38 | Tem | okay |
| 05:06.39 | Tem | so |
| 05:06.46 | Tem | I'm reading up on the blue posts I missed today |
| 05:06.50 | Tem | Tigole is now my hero. |
| 05:06.50 | Duman | heh |
| 05:07.00 | Duman | yes he was crushing faces w/ the ban hammer earlier |
| 05:07.01 | Dashkal | Agreed. |
| 05:07.02 | Tem | >"Banned" |
| 05:07.08 | Tem | awesome |
| 05:07.15 | Dashkal | So many of those twits needed to go |
| 05:07.16 | NightHawkTheSane | indeed he is. :) |
| 05:07.34 | Duman | hopefully some were beta-bans and not jsut forum bans, but whatever ;) |
| 05:08.08 | Dashkal | Eh, as long as they stop wasting our poor devlopers' time... I can always just hide general for beta :p |
| 05:08.23 | Duman | true.. perma-beta-forum bans, perhaps |
| 05:08.25 | Dashkal | Even crappy testers can accidently find stuff |
| 05:11.33 | Duman | interesting... server is up, world server down |
| 05:11.37 | Duman | at least, northrend |
| 05:12.30 | Tem | probably just came up |
| 05:12.44 | Tem | Duman, you see the deathchiken is going away? |
| 05:14.38 | Tem | hmm, DK starter zone isn't up yet either |
| 05:14.52 | Duman | yeah |
| 05:14.57 | Duman | outlands is down, too |
| 05:15.01 | Duman | probably just login working |
| 05:15.03 | NightHawkTheSane | hhm, murmur/lj are down now |
| 05:15.07 | Duman | login/connect, that is |
| 05:15.23 | Duman | none of the world/instance servers are up tho |
| 05:16.36 | Duman | oh...wait for it |
| 05:16.45 | Duman | loading bar is full |
| 05:16.52 | Duman | baud error frame killed a gnome |
| 05:17.07 | ScytheBlade1 | what! |
| 05:17.12 | Duman | oops, back to the login screen |
| 05:17.21 | Duman | hehe |
| 05:17.27 | Duman | it makes gnome-death noises on bugs |
| 05:17.34 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, really? |
| 05:17.39 | Duman | ala bugsack's "fatality" |
| 05:17.42 | ScytheBlade1 | nice |
| 05:17.52 | Tekkub | that would rick |
| 05:17.55 | Tekkub | *rock |
| 05:17.59 | Duman | rickroll |
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| 05:18.04 | Tekkub | or the gnome flinger death noise |
| 05:18.11 | Tekkub | uuuaaaagggh! |
| 05:18.20 | |Jelly| | 23 attempts tonight ... no mount. :( |
| 05:18.36 | Tekkub | stupid mount |
| 05:18.36 | ScytheBlade1 | |Jelly|: I did about 15, saw two kodos |
| 05:18.46 | Tekkub | th ram's okey, but it ain't worth that effort |
| 05:18.58 | |Jelly| | Kodo |
| 05:19.03 | Tekkub | kodo would be neat ally-side, but again, effort |
| 05:21.20 | Corrodias | i'll effort you |
| 05:22.01 | Corrodias | i didn't like the kodo, thinking it too much like a dumptruck. but one of my guildmates asserted that it's more like off-road 4-wheel action |
| 05:22.27 | Tem | let me equip my FOUR WHEELS OF FURY |
| 05:22.32 | Duman | lol |
| 05:22.47 | Duman | I AM THE LAWGIVER |
| 05:25.28 | Duman | weird |
| 05:25.52 | Tem | There are no trucks in world of warcraft |
| 05:25.59 | Duman | every so often I get a full loading bar and a dead gnome (means the addons loaded and probably player_entering_world)... but then booted to the char screen w/ no error |
| 05:26.06 | ScytheBlade1 | BUT THERE ARE MOTORCYCLES! |
| 05:26.08 | Duman | after which I just get world server down |
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| 05:26.57 | End | what...why the hell can't you ignore people who aren't online |
| 05:29.31 | NightHawkTheSane | because you touch yourself at night. |
| 05:30.00 | End | I don't think that's the reason, but thanks |
| 05:30.10 | NightHawkTheSane | it is, a blue told me |
| 05:30.28 | End | link! |
| 05:30.30 | Corrodias | it's because you don't let me touch you at night |
| 05:31.12 | NightHawkTheSane | also true |
| 05:39.12 | Tem | world servers back yet? |
| 05:39.17 | Tekkub | no |
| 05:46.01 | Tem | I wonder what the holdup is |
| 05:52.07 | Corrodias | you have not let me touch you yet |
| 05:54.33 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 05:55.21 | End | This is why I can't invite Corrodias to any parties |
| 05:55.51 | NightHawkTheSane | really? it's why i DO invite him to all my parties. |
| 05:56.07 | Corrodias | :d |
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| 06:04.46 | Tem | nothing to see here |
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| 06:04.56 | Tem | lol |
| 06:05.00 | Tem | I'm glad I put in that filter |
| 06:05.08 | Tem | otherwise you guys would have just seen my password |
| 06:05.46 | Duman | heh |
| 06:07.41 | NightHawkTheSane | i ought to write a script to do that. |
| 06:12.41 | Tem | QQ come back beta servers |
| 06:13.46 | Syzgyn | Kalimdor is up with no npcs :P |
| 06:16.10 | Tem | hah |
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| 06:17.12 | Syzgyn | Well, theres NPCs in org, but they're not attacking me |
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| 06:22.13 | Duman | syz |
| 06:22.16 | Duman | look at that shield I linked |
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| 06:28.04 | Syzgyn | Pretty sweet indeed |
| 06:28.08 | Syzgyn | I cant see it though |
| 06:28.47 | Syzgyn | Is 'The battle for the Undercity' bugged? |
| 06:31.09 | Duman | oh you don't have that chatlink fixer addon? |
| 06:31.28 | Duman | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10862-ChatLinkFixerforBetaPatch89058926.html |
| 06:31.32 | Duman | you'll have to edit it |
| 06:31.40 | Duman | and change the rev to 8970 |
| 06:31.56 | Duman | it'll let you shift-click ppl and contorl-click items |
| 06:32.04 | Syzgyn | Ooh |
| 06:32.12 | Syzgyn | Wait, its not a secure issue? |
| 06:33.06 | Duman | it's a UI is broken issue ;) |
| 06:33.28 | Duman | it's like a total of 19 lines to fix tho |
| 06:33.36 | Syzgyn | ~fail Blizz |
| 06:33.37 | purl | Blizz: FAIL! |
| 06:34.18 | Duman | you'll need to edit it to set the build number to the current one... since the initial hope was it would be fixed soon, and only be needed for those couple of patches ;) |
| 06:34.41 | Syzgyn | Heh |
| 06:37.03 | Dashkal | hrm, world server still down. Safe to assume it's down for the night? |
| 06:42.31 | Syzgyn | Why must the king have a stupid hairstyle? :( |
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| 06:49.07 | NightHawkTheSane | the king? |
| 06:49.14 | NightHawkTheSane | of pop? of rock and roll? of france? |
| 06:49.33 | NightHawkTheSane | of spain? (now he eats humble pie..) |
| 06:49.43 | Syzgyn | Of Stormwind |
| 06:49.47 | NightHawkTheSane | oh... |
| 06:50.06 | End | the king of stormwind is an asshole |
| 06:50.13 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ |
| 06:50.35 | Syzgyn | I'm starting to get that |
| 06:50.48 | Syzgyn | He's all 'OMG ORCS ARE BAD' |
| 06:50.58 | End | are you horde or alliance? |
| 06:51.03 | NightHawkTheSane | jaina, on the other hand, is teh awesome. |
| 06:51.06 | Syzgyn | ^ |
| 06:51.40 | End | I'm kinda curious what words were exchanged between jaina and the king after...you know |
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| 06:54.42 | Neuro_Medivh | it probably went something like, "Ok, I'm done now, go away" |
| 06:54.55 | Neuro_Medivh | and then "It's good to be the King" |
| 06:55.04 | End | lol |
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| 06:55.45 | Syzgyn | Neuro_Medivh++ |
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| 07:00.39 | Unregistered | hi |
| 07:01.46 | Neuro_Medivh | bye |
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| 07:19.15 | [SW]Dodge | g'morning |
| 07:19.35 | Syzgyn | 'morning |
| 07:20.46 | Syzgyn | and goodnight beta server, again |
| 07:23.29 | Dashkal | Syzgyn: Is northrend actually coming up? |
| 07:23.42 | Syzgyn | Server shutdown in < 2 minutes |
| 07:23.45 | Dashkal | Cause every single try I've got world server down |
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| 07:24.53 | Syzgyn | Its been down since the restart |
| 07:25.06 | Syzgyn | I expect they're shutting the server down to fix it |
| 07:25.47 | Syzgyn | I on the other hand, am going to bed |
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| 07:29.25 | jaxdahl | they're coming back up |
| 07:29.41 | Corrodias | quick, Duman, log in and crash it again |
| 07:31.31 | Dashkal | Yay, I actually got in. Lag at about 0.5s |
| 07:31.37 | jaxdahl | northrend back up |
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| 08:44.45 | clad|away | Mike-N-Go: just responded to your question |
| 08:44.50 | clad|away | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=7017#comments |
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| 08:49.55 | Neuro_Medivh | wb clad |
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| 08:52.15 | cladhaire | ty |
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| 09:18.05 | Cairenn|afk | "Women will tell you shopping is like sex. Well, it is for men too - that's why they can only do it for 5 minutes at a time then they get tired. Women can get purchase after purchase after purchase." |
| 09:20.43 | steev | these ptr patches are getting annoying.. using the same damn patch notes every time |
| 09:20.47 | steev | WTF IS NEW DAMN IT |
| 09:24.16 | Dashkal | Cairenn|afk: heh, nice |
| 09:24.42 | Dashkal | alrighty, even for rest coast it's late. night |
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| 09:32.36 | Matrix110| | hmmm |
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| 09:42.03 | Lonny` | Is it possible to differentiate the spell ranks out of the comabt log ? |
| 09:44.35 | zenzelezz | doesn't each rank have a different spell ID? |
| 09:45.45 | Lonny` | Yeah, it does :P |
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| 09:49.26 | Lonny` | Thanks mate, forgot about GetSpellInfo that returns the global spellId :) |
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| 09:58.24 | cladhaire | ooh some interesting changes this build. |
| 09:58.48 | cladhaire | http://apidiff.pastey.net/96492 |
| 09:59.37 | steev | getpreviousarenaseason eh |
| 09:59.45 | cladhaire | CVar: hwPCF |
| 09:59.48 | cladhaire | someone play with that :P |
| 09:59.52 | cladhaire | CanHearthAndResurrectFromArea |
| 09:59.53 | cladhaire | <3 |
| 09:59.53 | Cide | GetCVarAbsoluteMin(x) = math.abs(GetCVarMin(x)) ? :P |
| 10:00.03 | cladhaire | GetPreviousArenaSeason |
| 10:00.09 | zenzelezz | hardware PCF? |
| 10:00.11 | cladhaire | RAISED_AS_GHOUL FTW |
| 10:00.39 | Lonny` | Nice :) |
| 10:01.17 | nevcairiel | hwPCF - Enables a more efficient method for rendering extShadow effects. (0 for Off, 1 for On) |
| 10:01.24 | cladhaire | ah :P |
| 10:01.49 | nevcairiel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202277367 |
| 10:01.53 | nevcairiel | nice post about all that |
| 10:03.25 | zenzelezz | "Percentage Closer Filtering, a method in shadow mapping" - aha |
| 10:10.37 | Cairenn|afk | "I bought a black mesh cat suit. I thought I'd look sexy. I'm 5'2". I looked liked a horny care bear." |
| 10:10.47 | steev | rofl |
| 10:11.39 | Corrodias | more like care cat |
| 10:12.01 | Cairenn|afk | yes, Cairenn is awake at stupid hours, is punch drunk giggly and is watching the comedy network |
| 10:12.06 | Cairenn|afk | these jokes are hilarious |
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| 10:25.07 | nevcairiel | Hm that hwPCF seems to really boost shadow performance. I get much better performance with shadow quality 4 then before |
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| 10:25.42 | zenzelezz | I would expect so |
| 10:25.49 | nevcairiel | (its default on, but i didnt test it since the patch) |
| 10:28.27 | nevcairiel | One should write an addon for advanced video settings |
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| 11:02.51 | leethal | major lulz @ brewfest music tbh |
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| 11:09.27 | Corrodias | lul @ you |
| 11:10.10 | Tentacled | SeatIndicator_Pulse ... does this detect, through a seat-mounted indicator, whether the player is still alive? ;P |
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| 11:40.47 | Industrial | Sigh. I'm making a chat server and client in Java with RMI. |
| 11:41.02 | Industrial | (Don't get me wrong, I HAVE to :P) |
| 11:41.32 | zenzelezz | that's what they all say |
| 11:45.00 | hardw1re | RMI? |
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| 11:45.42 | Industrial | Remote Method Invocation |
| 11:46.43 | Industrial | do the quiz! http://java.sun.com/developer/Quizzes/rmi/index.html |
| 11:47.15 | hardw1re | is that a bit like Raid Mage Evocation? |
| 11:49.11 | Kraps | oh world of warcraft, how you mock me! i've had my new pc for 4 days, and all i've been doing is downloading and installing |
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| 11:49.58 | hardw1re | hrhr |
| 11:53.12 | Kraps | 1. What interface must all interfaces for remote services extend? |
| 11:53.14 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:53.16 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:53.18 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:53.19 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:53.21 | Kraps | oh i know this... |
| 11:53.26 | Kraps | not |
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| 12:07.59 | Kaso | java.rmi.Remote ? |
| 12:19.05 | Kaso | Im presume anyone who'd more than fleetingly glanced at rmi would know that |
| 12:19.57 | Mikk | Indeed, seeing as how it _is_ a quiz about rmi |
| 12:20.42 | Kaso | java rmi is one of the thing my computing department loves a little too much i think. |
| 12:21.45 | Mikk | Everything is the Net! |
| 12:21.55 | Mikk | No, wait, what'd sun's old slogan use to be again |
| 12:21.58 | Mikk | Something along those lines |
| 12:22.29 | Mikk | (We're talking 15 years ago here) |
| 12:22.56 | Kaso | I dont know >< |
| 12:23.26 | krka | The Network is the Computer ? |
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| 12:42.56 | Mikk | ooooh thanks |
| 12:44.30 | Mikk | So, yeah, you clearly need to do lots of remote method invocationing or you don't have a proper computer! |
| 12:47.13 | cbreak | what happened to simple message passing protocols? :/ |
| 12:47.19 | zenzelezz | "remote method invocation"... Sun's version of a botnet? |
| 12:47.44 | cbreak | it does automatic call marshaling and so on |
| 12:47.48 | cbreak | with proxy objects I think |
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| 12:54.31 | zenzelezz | 9 |
| 12:54.35 | zenzelezz | oops |
| 12:59.25 | Cairenn|afk | 23 |
| 13:00.01 | Lyn | anyone 80 on beta and can answer me some questions? |
| 13:00.09 | Fisker- | sure |
| 13:00.30 | Fisker- | now you made my trout sexually aroused |
| 13:00.40 | Lyn | oO; |
| 13:00.42 | Fisker- | way to ruin everything :( |
| 13:00.51 | Cairenn|afk | so sorry |
| 13:01.37 | Lyn | nevcairiel, ping? |
| 13:01.37 | zenzelezz | I've heard people give them a lot of things... but to call it your "trout", now that's peculiar |
| 13:02.11 | Cairenn|afk | zenzelezz: this is Fisker- we're talking about - peculiar is his middle name |
| 13:02.23 | zenzelezz | good point |
| 13:02.29 | cbreak | leveling on beta feels so pointless |
| 13:02.33 | Industrial | but wouldnt goldfish be a better name? |
| 13:02.40 | Lyn | anyone knows if you can do the 70-daily quest with 80? |
| 13:02.46 | Tornhoof | leveling always feels so pointless |
| 13:03.11 | Fisker- | what 70 daily quest Lyn ? |
| 13:03.15 | Lyn | like ogrila |
| 13:03.15 | Lyn | or |
| 13:03.17 | Lyn | skyguard |
| 13:03.31 | Fisker- | my only 80 is a deathknight :I |
| 13:03.36 | cbreak | I see no reason why you couldn't. Not that I have tested it. |
| 13:03.38 | Fisker- | but i can't see why not |
| 13:03.43 | Lyn | yeah |
| 13:03.44 | Lyn | but you know |
| 13:03.46 | Lyn | blizzard |
| 13:03.56 | Lyn | they change sometimes good stuff in shit |
| 13:04.11 | Lyn | Fisker-, if you have some time ... can you test it for me? the skyguard one |
| 13:04.19 | Kraps | the game can't do better than 60 fps? |
| 13:04.25 | Lyn | and... I build a SPACE HOTROD in Spore !! Fisker- :p |
| 13:04.28 | cbreak | depends |
| 13:04.33 | cbreak | what can your monitor display? |
| 13:04.34 | Kraps | on? |
| 13:04.55 | cbreak | for obvious reasons, the game can not display more frames than the monitor |
| 13:04.59 | zenzelezz | Kraps: fullscreen or windowed? |
| 13:05.01 | cbreak | it could calculate more however |
| 13:05.08 | cbreak | but for that you would have to disable vsync |
| 13:05.18 | Kraps | windowed |
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| 13:05.26 | cbreak | all the additional frames would just be wasted though |
| 13:05.40 | cbreak | might even lead to tearing |
| 13:05.41 | Kraps | vsync is on |
| 13:05.48 | zenzelezz | well there you go |
| 13:05.58 | cbreak | yeah, you have to disable it if you want to waste CPU/GPU time |
| 13:06.30 | Kraps | so if i put my pc at 70 hz, that would put out a faster fps? |
| 13:06.39 | cbreak | depends |
| 13:06.42 | cbreak | what can your screen show? |
| 13:07.14 | cbreak | do you know what fps means? Frames per Second. The screen refresh rate is how often the contents of the screen are redrawn. |
| 13:07.43 | Kraps | k, didn't they were seperate |
| 13:07.51 | Lyn | lol |
| 13:07.58 | Kraps | :/ |
| 13:08.00 | Lyn | i am watching doctor who 4x01 ... and |
| 13:08.33 | Lyn | this time the enemies are blobs which consists of human grease |
| 13:08.34 | Lyn | :x |
| 13:08.51 | cbreak | I do not wish to know more about this series. |
| 13:09.35 | Lyn | it rocks! |
| 13:09.36 | Lyn | :D |
| 13:13.06 | Kraps | i despise questhelper, but i need it |
| 13:13.21 | Kraps | feels weird |
| 13:19.28 | Fisker- | owld Lyn :( |
| 13:22.07 | Industrial | any locks around? I just respecced my 55 lock to demonology so I have a felguard now. My main stat is shadowpower (183 now) and im sacrificing everything for it. Should I go for eg int,stam instead with demonology? |
| 13:24.29 | cbreak | I would not bother to get the best gear while leveling, you'll replace it soon anyway. |
| 13:25.00 | Industrial | yes, but its for thegear im replacing it with too :) |
| 13:25.49 | cbreak | probably different, but as mage I just watched for spell damage, which was extremely rare back in the 55 |
| 13:26.05 | Industrial | im using a shadowpower set from level 40 |
| 13:26.18 | cbreak | blizzard thought int and stamina was good to put on mage gear :/ |
| 13:26.27 | cbreak | and... spirit.... |
| 13:26.30 | Industrial | lol |
| 13:27.23 | cbreak | what I use at 70 is Dr. Damage and Rating Buster, to estimate how much my dps increase with a new item |
| 13:27.38 | Industrial | yes, i know those addons exist |
| 13:27.55 | Industrial | but I just need a basic this stat > that stat >other stat |
| 13:28.23 | clad|away | well |
| 13:28.25 | clad|away | you dont' need mana |
| 13:28.33 | clad|away | you don't need crit, causeyou're not destro |
| 13:28.36 | clad|away | and you dont' need life |
| 13:28.42 | clad|away | so +spell should really be your focus |
| 13:28.44 | clad|away | specifically shadow |
| 13:28.59 | Industrial | why not life |
| 13:28.59 | clad|away | bandages |
| 13:29.00 | Industrial | nm |
| 13:29.30 | cbreak | you have your tank blob. :) |
| 13:29.33 | cbreak | or fear |
| 13:32.34 | clad|away | yeah |
| 13:32.38 | clad|away | locks are crazy easy to gear up |
| 13:32.44 | clad|away | not that mages are hard, since they are so damn fragile |
| 13:32.59 | Industrial | orly, I've had a lot of trouble trying to get all that shadowpower ger :P |
| 13:33.06 | Industrial | gear* |
| 13:33.09 | clad|away | I'm not saying getting the gear is easy |
| 13:33.12 | clad|away | but its not complex |
| 13:33.19 | clad|away | its clear when one item is better than another |
| 13:33.26 | Industrial | yep |
| 13:40.06 | Industrial | ok i like affliction better :p |
| 13:40.12 | Industrial | that was quick lol |
| 13:40.39 | Industrial | played like hunter but with more self mutilation and less pewpew >_> |
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| 13:47.42 | cbreak | the new focus magic sucks. |
| 13:48.49 | Cide | qq |
| 13:48.57 | cbreak | ? |
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| 13:58.52 | clad|away | can beta players log into the PTR now? |
| 13:59.58 | Mikk | ptr is 3.0, not wotlk |
| 14:00.04 | Mikk | and they're ummm ... public! |
| 14:00.12 | Mikk | as in public test realm! |
| 14:00.51 | nevcairiel | Mikk: the login was bugged that it didnt let anyone that was flagged for beta login to ptr =P |
| 14:00.59 | Mikk | oh >.< |
| 14:01.00 | nevcairiel | but i think it was fixed |
| 14:01.50 | nevcairiel | Lyn: pong |
| 14:05.35 | clad|away | Mikk: smartass, learn to pay attention |
| 14:05.40 | clad|away | nevcairiel: thanks, I'll give it a try |
| 14:05.51 | clad|away | those statements oddly have the same number of character |
| 14:05.53 | clad|away | odd |
| 14:06.06 | Mikk | Well... i figured even the best of us can brainfart sometimes! |
| 14:06.10 | Mikk | I know I do! |
| 14:06.19 | clad|away | :P |
| 14:06.46 | Corrodias | did somebody say ass! |
| 14:06.48 | Corrodias | i love that stuff |
| 14:11.52 | cbreak | am I the only one who gets annoyed when people use "of" instead of verbs like "have"? |
| 14:12.03 | zenzelezz | nope |
| 14:12.45 | Corrodias | in the phrases "could have" or "should have", that sort of thing? |
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| 14:13.12 | Corrodias | they hear the contraction "could've" and try to expand it (utterly failing) to "could of" |
| 14:14.07 | Fisker- | clad|away i will destroy you! |
| 14:14.11 | clad|away | k k |
| 14:15.08 | Nikon23 | Hi, i have a Problem with CosmosUI, how can i get rif of this "Edit Label" function when you rightklick a portrait? |
| 14:15.12 | Nikon23 | *rid |
| 14:15.45 | Cide | disabling the addon should do. |
| 14:15.55 | Nikon23 | yeah, but i don't know which addon it is |
| 14:15.55 | Nikon23 | :D |
| 14:17.12 | Nikon23 | i hoped you would know this, because when you are lootmaster and want to set lootquality to epic it always is set as legendary because the "edit label" text is above "epic" |
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| 14:37.05 | Mikk | Even his quit message tells him where to go? =P |
| 14:42.28 | Adys | Mikk: Transfer Aborted: instance is full |
| 14:42.34 | Adys | 4 years of wow, never seen that |
| 14:42.58 | Adys | http://s4.tinypic.com/msy59c.jpg |
| 14:44.55 | Gnarfoz | Adys: yay for you then, I've seen them all ^^ |
| 14:45.51 | Mikk | yoink |
| 14:46.16 | Mikk | that's a new one indeed |
| 14:46.32 | Mikk | that explains what i saw in trade just now |
| 14:46.34 | Mikk | "brd is full" |
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| 14:59.17 | Lyn | nevcairiel, you are 80 on beta right? |
| 14:59.53 | |pez| | brd... isn't that like.. something old? |
| 15:00.34 | zenzelezz | yup, but there's Brewfest quests there, so everyone's going there |
| 15:00.52 | zenzelezz | or bosses... something like that |
| 15:03.15 | wereHamster | Adys: is that BRD? |
| 15:03.18 | Adys | Yes |
| 15:03.28 | wereHamster | why are they waiting there? |
| 15:03.36 | Adys | [17:41:52] <Adys> Mikk: Transfer Aborted: instance is full |
| 15:04.07 | wereHamster | is there new content |
| 15:04.09 | wereHamster | ? |
| 15:04.23 | Adys | brewfest bs |
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| 15:10.29 | nevcairiel | Lyn: yes |
| 15:11.25 | |Jelly| | Is the a limited number of times you can run the ram race? |
| 15:12.11 | nevcairiel | once per day, until your ram disappears |
| 15:12.48 | |Jelly| | And when does that reset? Cause I did it yesterday about this time and today, he's just telling me about how I need to work before I can have fun. |
| 15:13.06 | nevcairiel | I dunno |
| 15:13.15 | nevcairiel | it doesnt give you a second quest, though |
| 15:13.20 | nevcairiel | just a speak-bubble |
| 15:13.32 | |Jelly| | It's not there. qq |
| 15:14.23 | nevcairiel | I did it yesterday, and just did it the second time |
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| 15:15.31 | Lyn | nevcairiel, can you tell me, can you still make ogri'la quests or other 70d ailysà |
| 15:15.32 | Lyn | *dailys |
| 15:16.05 | sacarasc | damn, Adys, that's a lot of people there |
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| 15:16.15 | nevcairiel | Lyn: why wouldnt you? |
| 15:16.54 | nevcairiel | I can go there and check, i suppose |
| 15:17.00 | Lyn | nevcairiel, that would be nice |
| 15:17.06 | Lyn | cause I think you can, but I am not sure.. |
| 15:17.11 | Lyn | blizz sometimes change things |
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| 15:24.50 | nevcairiel | Lyn: i can still do the terokkar dailys, however they only give a very low amount of gold |
| 15:24.52 | p3lim | Brewfest changed this year? How do I get the mount(s) this year? |
| 15:25.07 | nevcairiel | drops from the BRD boss |
| 15:25.14 | p3lim | ah ok |
| 15:25.22 | Lyn | nevcairiel, how much gold? 10g or less? |
| 15:25.25 | p3lim | All I got from killing him was 5x Coiren's Lucky Coin |
| 15:25.26 | nevcairiel | 4.4g |
| 15:25.29 | Lyn | wtf |
| 15:25.32 | Lyn | that sucks |
| 15:25.33 | Lyn | XD |
| 15:25.36 | Lyn | but thanks for testing |
| 15:25.38 | nevcairiel | nah it doesnt |
| 15:25.45 | nevcairiel | who wants low-level dailys anyway |
| 15:25.52 | Lyn | for reputation |
| 15:25.53 | Lyn | ;) |
| 15:25.55 | Shirik|zZz | huh, Blizzcon will be on PPV |
| 15:27.05 | nevcairiel | heh other designers started bannig now too |
| 15:29.03 | Cairenn|afk | ? |
| 15:34.25 | Kraps | they switched imp tc and tm :/ |
| 15:34.40 | Kraps | fail |
| 15:35.13 | nevcairiel | why fail? |
| 15:35.46 | nevcairiel | I like the change, as prot |
| 15:35.46 | Kraps | cuz now i need 54 tp's in prot |
| 15:36.04 | nevcairiel | so, uh, how is that bad? |
| 15:36.26 | Kraps | it leaves less for other stuff |
| 15:36.37 | nevcairiel | its the same number of points |
| 15:36.52 | nevcairiel | not like there is much usefullness in arms that one can spec |
| 15:37.25 | Kraps | hows this? http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=LAM0zoZ0xZVItzgczVzIdsGo |
| 15:49.37 | Shirik|AFK | any healing priests here, btw? |
| 15:49.45 | Shirik|AFK | they need to look at my talent tree :/ |
| 15:57.58 | Shirik|AFK | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=bAh0zhhZfbxcf0aihVcst |
| 15:58.42 | Pneumatus | no desparate prayer makes baby jesus cry |
| 15:58.58 | Shirik|AFK | I don't find it useful |
| 15:59.11 | Shirik|AFK | 20% mana? |
| 15:59.16 | Shirik|AFK | I might as well die anyway |
| 15:59.32 | Pneumatus | 20% base mana, not 20% mana... |
| 15:59.44 | Shirik|AFK | my base mana is not much lower than my full mana |
| 16:00.03 | Pneumatus | base mana at 80 is only gonna be about 3k |
| 16:00.04 | nevcairiel | Shirik|AFK: your base mana is around 3k on 80 |
| 16:00.05 | Shirik|AFK | I still cannot justify using that much mana just to save myself |
| 16:00.18 | Shirik|AFK | wait, what? |
| 16:00.21 | nevcairiel | Shirik|AFK: base mana is "naked" mana |
| 16:00.23 | Shirik|AFK | Oh |
| 16:00.28 | zenzelezz | dead priests have no mana |
| 16:00.28 | nevcairiel | not before buffs |
| 16:00.29 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 16:00.33 | Shirik|AFK | I don't think about that :P |
| 16:00.35 | Pneumatus | base mana is mana before intellect |
| 16:00.44 | Shirik|AFK | so what's that, 600? |
| 16:00.47 | nevcairiel | base mana is mana before anything |
| 16:00.52 | Shirik|AFK | ok, what am I going to take the talent point out of :/ |
| 16:00.55 | nevcairiel | 2.3k on 60 or so |
| 16:01.00 | nevcairiel | er |
| 16:01.00 | Fisker- | Shirik|AFK is my bestest friend |
| 16:01.01 | nevcairiel | 70 |
| 16:01.01 | Shirik|AFK | mental agility? |
| 16:01.07 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 16:01.10 | Pneumatus | no improved pw:f either? |
| 16:01.16 | Shirik|AFK | someone else can get that |
| 16:01.20 | nevcairiel | our holys dont skill pw:f either |
| 16:01.22 | Shirik|AFK | I pulled aggro last night |
| 16:01.22 | nevcairiel | shadows do that =P |
| 16:01.32 | Shirik|AFK | not last night, it was thursday I think |
| 16:01.45 | Pneumatus | i dont talent into silent resolve for raiding anymore |
| 16:02.13 | Shirik|AFK | Like I said, I pulled aggro on gurtogg, and I'm 5/5 resolve right now. The times I didn't pull, I was capped the entire time and it was very bad |
| 16:02.30 | Pneumatus | got the heal meta, and subtelty on cloak? |
| 16:02.38 | Shirik|AFK | no heal meta, yes on cloak |
| 16:02.40 | nevcairiel | You pulled with pure healing aggro? |
| 16:02.40 | Shirik|AFK | the heal meta is crap |
| 16:02.44 | Shirik|AFK | yes pure healing aggro |
| 16:02.49 | nevcairiel | then your tanks fail |
| 16:02.58 | Shirik|AFK | Let me see if I can find the WWS see how much healing I did |
| 16:03.07 | Pneumatus | i dont talent Healing Focus when im holy either |
| 16:03.19 | Shirik|AFK | The correct gem for priests to get is the proc for mana gem |
| 16:03.23 | Pneumatus | pushback protection for CoH spam is a waste of 2 points |
| 16:03.24 | Shirik|AFK | imo |
| 16:03.31 | nevcairiel | I recently changed from the regen proc to +healing |
| 16:03.33 | Shirik|AFK | Pneumatus: Who said I always CoH spam |
| 16:03.40 | nevcairiel | but then again i'm no priest |
| 16:03.47 | nevcairiel | but mostly i didnt have any yellow gems anymore =P |
| 16:04.09 | Shirik|AFK | In fact, I grow very nervous around priests that have CoH that instantly forget they have no other spells |
| 16:04.10 | Mikk | erm... get 2 haste ones, done? |
| 16:04.17 | nevcairiel | I dont wanna! |
| 16:04.24 | Pneumatus | wait for 3.0 and get speldam/haste gems |
| 16:05.00 | Mikk | Shirik|AFK: you get to be nervous around druids now too! |
| 16:05.31 | Mikk | in fact with 3.0 druids, i don't even see the point of holy priests any more :S |
| 16:05.35 | Mikk | flash heal? check |
| 16:05.42 | Mikk | CoH-like spell? check |
| 16:05.50 | Mikk | uber hots? check |
| 16:05.56 | Pneumatus | http://wowwebstats.com/iafu1trxgx2om |
| 16:06.06 | Mikk | pw:shield? who gives fuck outside 5mans? :P |
| 16:06.08 | foxlit | Spirit buff? |
| 16:06.12 | Mikk | that's disc ;) |
| 16:06.14 | foxlit | Power Infusion? |
| 16:06.15 | Shirik|AFK | Not disc |
| 16:06.16 | foxlit | So? :) |
| 16:06.17 | Shirik|AFK | not disc |
| 16:06.20 | Pneumatus | pw:s is only any use once you stack into disc |
| 16:06.22 | Shirik|AFK | Someone else can go disc :P |
| 16:06.33 | Shirik|AFK | Bloodboil death: 836381 healing just from CoH, 25% OH. |
| 16:06.36 | Mikk | you go shadow then cause holy just became obsolete :P |
| 16:06.51 | foxlit | You know, shadow priests are whining even louder that they're now obsolete |
| 16:07.08 | Mikk | aye they got seriously shafted with itemization |
| 16:07.16 | Shirik|AFK | Bloodboil try #2: Pull aggro: http://wowwebstats.com/avxlyoy6jldwm?s=57280-75608&a=x112162&dth=75441 |
| 16:07.17 | Pneumatus | your other healers suck if you had to put out 836k alone :P |
| 16:07.18 | Mikk | they rocked in t4, was ok in t5 .. t6? err |
| 16:07.37 | Shirik|AFK | then everyone dies |
| 16:08.54 | Shirik|AFK | Pneumatus: We only have 2 healers for Gurtogg |
| 16:08.58 | Shirik|AFK | that is, BB healers |
| 16:08.59 | Pneumatus | o.O |
| 16:09.03 | Pneumatus | http://wowwebstats.com/iafu1trxgx2om?s=182248-199133&m |
| 16:09.26 | Mikk | pfeh, BB is Rejuvable |
| 16:09.41 | Pneumatus | we dont have druids, we have shamans and priests :) |
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| 16:09.45 | Mikk | oO |
| 16:09.47 | Mikk | get druids! |
| 16:09.53 | Mikk | you have no idea what you're missing out on |
| 16:10.05 | Shirik|AFK | Pneumatus, 670k or so after OH removed: http://wowwebstats.com/avxlyoy6jldwm?s=76227-104728&m |
| 16:10.28 | Pneumatus | mind you, your bloodboil fight took 7 minsd |
| 16:10.30 | Pneumatus | -d |
| 16:10.32 | Shirik|AFK | I would like to take this time to point out that we realized half of the problem afterwards |
| 16:10.35 | Shirik|AFK | and that is |
| 16:10.37 | Shirik|AFK | the other priest |
| 16:10.38 | Mikk | 3 druids keeping rejuv & LB up on a tank = tank takes a massive hit? so what. he'll tick for 6k before anyone has time to land even a flash heal |
| 16:10.39 | Shirik|AFK | ............... |
| 16:10.40 | Shirik|AFK | ..... |
| 16:10.41 | Pneumatus | ours took just over 3 |
| 16:10.45 | Shirik|AFK | flash healing insteado f CoH |
| 16:11.01 | Mikk | hahahahahaha |
| 16:11.10 | Shirik|AFK | I yelled when I realized this |
| 16:11.37 | Shirik|AFK | and yes, Pneumatus, it shouldn't take that long |
| 16:11.49 | Pneumatus | spot the rogues that got buffed in both of those WWS :) |
| 16:11.52 | Shirik|AFK | but our dps... |
| 16:12.12 | Mikk | er yeah <1k dps in black temple from a dps class ... |
| 16:12.16 | Mikk | can we say fail? |
| 16:12.26 | Shirik|AFK | we've been having issues |
| 16:12.33 | Shirik|AFK | much of our team has not been showing up |
| 16:12.43 | Shirik|AFK | However, I win for the night http://wowwebstats.com/avxlyoy6jldwm?m |
| 16:12.48 | Shirik|AFK | by over 1 million |
| 16:12.52 | Shirik|AFK | Makes me happy :D |
| 16:13.29 | Mikk | i mean jesus my ferlol puts out 1k in a bossfight |
| 16:13.37 | Mikk | and that's with t4+ilvl128ish stuff |
| 16:13.42 | Mikk | (yeah i was resto for t6) |
| 16:14.19 | Shirik|AFK | ok I really have to take a shower |
| 16:14.41 | Pneumatus | anyway, i will personally only be putting 14 into disc when at 80 |
| 16:15.15 | Mikk | and yeah the Wotlk Wait is killing guilds right and left, much like the tbc one |
| 16:15.19 | Mikk | people cba to show up anymore |
| 16:15.22 | Shirik|AFK | I considered taking out MA |
| 16:15.26 | Shirik|AFK | But MA is useful for CoH |
| 16:15.38 | Mikk | MA is useful for lots of stuff |
| 16:15.39 | Shirik|AFK | I need to analyze how I do without it |
| 16:15.40 | Mikk | renew, dispel |
| 16:15.40 | Pneumatus | yeh, it is |
| 16:15.54 | Mikk | of course, if you're not having mana problems, you can obviously do without |
| 16:16.04 | Pneumatus | from testing on beta though, ive not had mana issues to need it |
| 16:16.07 | Mikk | but then again, more healing is obviously not the answer for you since you pull aggro >.< |
| 16:20.06 | Pneumatus | ive given up stacking heal |
| 16:21.06 | Shirik | I disagree with stacking heal |
| 16:21.13 | Shirik | I stack spirit |
| 16:21.41 | Pneumatus | with pure +spi gems, or with heal/spi? |
| 16:21.58 | zenzelezz | I stack gnomes |
| 16:22.36 | Shirik | the +10 spirit ones |
| 16:22.46 | zenzelezz | no, any gnome at all |
| 16:22.50 | Cide | I disagree with Shirik |
| 16:22.55 | Shirik | http://drenden-us.warcrafter.net/Kimina |
| 16:22.59 | Shirik | However, I have an issue with that site |
| 16:23.04 | Shirik | because they only care about while-casting mp5 |
| 16:23.07 | Cide | it's a ripoff off ctprofiles? |
| 16:23.09 | Cide | oh, nvm |
| 16:23.19 | Shirik | I never saw ctprofiles, sorry :( |
| 16:23.23 | Cide | you fail |
| 16:23.30 | Pneumatus | well, some fights you dont have time to sit in the 5sr |
| 16:23.36 | Cide | it does more than ctprofiles though, so /shrug |
| 16:24.00 | Shirik | Pneumatus, that's not all that matters |
| 16:24.01 | Cide | how can PoH only have 1.6 hpm? |
| 16:24.10 | Shirik | What about inner focus? Clearcasting? |
| 16:24.16 | Shirik | All of this, when chained properly, can release a ton of mana |
| 16:24.17 | Cide | is it not multiplied by 3 or 5 or however many average targets? |
| 16:24.27 | Shirik | Not to mention the time I had 11k mp5 while casting |
| 16:24.37 | Shirik | Ig uess so, Cide |
| 16:24.46 | Shirik | CoH seems to do the same |
| 16:25.17 | Cide | yep |
| 16:25.21 | Pneumatus | fights like the emps in swp, i dont get a chance to stop casting to be able to spend time in the 5sr :< |
| 16:25.29 | Shirik | I mean, a lot of the calculations it tries to do aren't quite right |
| 16:25.40 | Shirik | max crit heal 8150? I don't think so. I haven't tried unbuffed, though |
| 16:25.52 | Shirik | Pneumatus: Then chain your abilities correctly |
| 16:26.21 | Shirik | clearcasting and innerfocus work beautifully together |
| 16:26.24 | Shirik | even if you don't have any downtime |
| 16:26.34 | Shirik | Not to mention clearcasting is already OP |
| 16:26.40 | Shirik | And they're making it more OP in expansion |
| 16:27.46 | Pneumatus | it changes every patch though |
| 16:27.54 | Pneumatus | it went from being not bad, to really shit, to really awesome |
| 16:28.21 | Shirik | Rofl, this site also ranks Mallicia the same level as me |
| 16:28.36 | Shirik | not only is her gear crap, she also doesn't know how to play a priest... |
| 16:28.55 | Shirik | but anyway |
| 16:28.57 | Shirik | I digress |
| 16:29.10 | Pneumatus | well, armory comparison cant really comment on retards behind the keyboards :) |
| 16:31.07 | Shirik | And somehow this is equivalent to me too: http://drenden-us.warcrafter.net/Lanny |
| 16:31.10 | Shirik | Actually beats me by 5 points |
| 16:31.22 | Shirik | he's the only one stopping me from being the top holy horde priest on the server... |
| 16:32.22 | Shirik | because he has more +healing than me |
| 16:32.45 | Shirik | whopdeedoo.... he also has almost 100 less spirit and 50 less mp5 *growl* |
| 16:32.58 | Shirik | 700 less HP |
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| 16:47.14 | Mike-N-Go | clad|away: Thanks. |
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| 17:05.32 | |Jelly| | Hey Shirik |
| 17:06.09 | p3lim | pony keg or goggles? |
| 17:06.16 | |Jelly| | BOF! |
| 17:06.36 | Fisker- | neither |
| 17:06.53 | p3lim | what then Fisker- ? |
| 17:07.18 | Fisker- | brew of the month |
| 17:07.20 | Fisker- | and the gear |
| 17:07.32 | Fisker- | because you already got the keg and goggles from last year |
| 17:07.33 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 17:08.01 | zenzelezz | woot, forgotten Maraudon quest +1100 CC rep |
| 17:08.08 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 17:08.24 | zenzelezz | strange, I feel nothing |
| 17:08.24 | p3lim | Fisker-: nah i dont have that stuff on my new char |
| 17:15.22 | Mikk | I agree that in5sr mp5 is what counts |
| 17:15.29 | Mikk | But that doesn't mean you should stack mp5 |
| 17:15.53 | Mikk | With the spi regen changes, there's a cutoff point where getting more spi gets you more in5sr mp5 than mp5 for the same ilvl cost |
| 17:16.13 | Mikk | The cutoff having to do with how much int you have, and assuming BoK |
| 17:16.57 | Mikk | And hell even if you're only getting the sameish in5sr mp5, there will be the odd time when you get an oo5sr tick even in heavy fights, so it wins anyway |
| 17:17.14 | Mikk | This is assuming that you're a priest or druid ofc. Pallies and shamans are shafted as usual. |
| 17:30.19 | foxlit | Gr, I'm having difficulties describing single-dimension coordinates of objects evenly-spaced inside a box :( |
| 17:30.39 | zenzelezz | go out of the box and try to explain it |
| 17:30.40 | Mikk | boxes are 3d? =) |
| 17:30.56 | foxlit | s/inside a box/along a line/ |
| 17:31.30 | Mikk | okay, now you're at least making dimensional sense. but i still don't get the problem :P |
| 17:31.32 | foxlit | basically, standard stuff: if there's only one object, position it at half-distance; if there are two, position those at either end; and so on |
| 17:31.50 | Iriel | Well, 1 is a special case |
| 17:31.53 | Iriel | everything else is easy |
| 17:33.26 | Iriel | (easy being spacing = totalLength / (N -1)) |
| 17:33.41 | Mikk | lua> numdots = 3; length=100; for dot=1..numdots do print(length*(dot-1)/(numdots-1)) end |
| 17:33.42 | lua_bot | Mikk: luabot:1: malformed number near '1..numdots' |
| 17:33.48 | Mikk | lua> numdots = 3; length=100; for dot=1,numdots do print(length*(dot-1)/(numdots-1)) end |
| 17:33.49 | lua_bot | Mikk: 0, 50, 100 |
| 17:34.00 | Mikk | lua> numdots = 4; length=100; for dot=1,numdots do print(length*(dot-1)/(numdots-1)) end |
| 17:34.01 | lua_bot | Mikk: 0, 33.333333333333, 66.666666666667, 100 |
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| 17:34.01 | foxlit | Yeah, think that works |
| 17:34.06 | Mikk | lua> numdots = 2; length=100; for dot=1,numdots do print(length*(dot-1)/(numdots-1)) end |
| 17:34.07 | lua_bot | Mikk: 0, 100 |
| 17:34.24 | Mikk | numdots = 1 -> divide by zero |
| 17:35.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: quick question, if people find bugs/etc with the secure headers in 3.0, would it be best for them to post in the beta UI forum or live UI forum? |
| 17:35.38 | Iriel | Live forum, and email me too |
| 17:35.54 | Iriel | Hopefully you dont have any 8-) |
| 17:35.56 | ScytheBlade1 | 'k |
| 17:35.56 | ScytheBlade1 | hehe |
| 17:36.03 | Iriel | By the way I posted an updated document |
| 17:36.19 | foxlit | up to 9 now? :) |
| 17:36.26 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm just writing a post for beta UI, suggesting that people post a lot of their suggestions in the 'proper places', ie, the UI Suggestions thread |
| 17:36.27 | Iriel | http://www.iriel.org/wow/docs/SecureHeadersGuide%20-%20pre1.pdf |
| 17:36.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Variable key turning speed and the like, for example |
| 17:36.53 | Iriel | That makes sense |
| 17:37.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Was just wondering if there was anything specific that you'd like me to add as it relates to the secure headers |
| 17:37.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Live forum it is |
| 17:37.15 | Iriel | Really the live forum is best because (a) I check it more often and (b) the code is going to be on the live realms before LK |
| 17:37.29 | ScytheBlade1 | 'k |
| 17:37.41 | Iriel | General questions can go to a thread of their own on either forum (alestane checks both, I check both but the live one much more often) |
| 17:37.46 | Iriel | bugs should go in the 3.0 changes thread |
| 17:44.00 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10043320730&postId=100422478975&sid=2000#0 |
| 17:44.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Here's to hoping that helps |
| 17:46.30 | ScytheBlade1 | |Jelly|: "Don't listen to retarded friends?" I love you. |
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| 17:55.15 | Industrial | I need a new shooter game |
| 17:55.28 | Industrial | whats the cool army shooter these days |
| 17:55.39 | Industrial | I used to play DF:LW WAAAAY back =) |
| 17:57.46 | haste | shooter ~= fps ! |
| 18:00.17 | Industrial | false |
| 18:00.41 | haste | it can be much more Industrial :p |
| 18:00.45 | Industrial | shooter['fps'] == true |
| 18:00.56 | haste | no, that would be wrong |
| 18:01.09 | haste | shooter['fp'] = true -- if anything :p |
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| 18:01.15 | Industrial | -_- |
| 18:01.28 | Industrial | ANYWAY, yeah, I need names! |
| 18:01.33 | Industrial | spill it, #wowuidev |
| 18:02.50 | haste | operation flashpoint :p ? |
| 18:03.31 | Industrial | commence youtube! |
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| 18:06.02 | zenzelezz | I felt really let down by Armed Assault... the engine was so much better than OFP's, but the campaign/gameplay fell far short of OFP's :-/ |
| 18:06.31 | haste | the OFP engine isn't really any good, so no wonder :p |
| 18:06.59 | zenzelezz | indeed, but they still managed to make a great game with it (for those who enjoy that kind of game) |
| 18:08.37 | Fisker- | what does the offtank need shadow resistance for on shahraz? |
| 18:09.11 | zenzelezz | didn't think he did |
| 18:09.25 | Fisker- | same here |
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| 18:20.58 | Industrial | zenzelezz: hm armed assault looks good, ty :) |
| 18:22.39 | Fisker- | wtf zenzelezz |
| 18:22.56 | Fisker- | now i know why they need shadow res: "Because bosskillers says so" |
| 18:25.14 | ScytheBlade1 | For what boss? |
| 18:25.45 | zenzelezz | OTs on mother |
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| 18:28.21 | ScytheBlade1 | lol? |
| 18:29.09 | Shirik | hi |Jelly| |
| 18:29.49 | Shirik | I did mother without SR the other day |
| 18:30.08 | Shirik | See, in our raid, we have these things we call "Ready Checks" |
| 18:30.12 | Shirik | we do them before every boss |
| 18:30.21 | Shirik | We wait for everyone to click either yes or no and then we go |
| 18:30.26 | Shirik | We don't actually care if someone clicks no |
| 18:30.30 | Shirik | if everyone responded, then we start |
| 18:30.34 | Shirik | ... |
| 18:31.26 | zenzelezz | half of our ready checks were "click no if you're here" |
| 18:31.34 | zenzelezz | to see who really listened on Vent |
| 18:31.57 | Shirik | lol |
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| 18:41.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: and the lesson is, unless you're ready, just afk out of the ready check. :D |
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| 18:41.10 | Shirik | apparently |
| 18:41.56 | Shirik | Okay Shiibot, time to move into your new home |
| 18:42.41 | Fisker- | why so new home Shirik ? |
| 18:42.55 | zenzelezz | it found someone better than Shirik |
| 18:42.59 | Shirik | because I'm sick of having to restart Shiibot every time I need to restart my computer |
| 18:44.18 | Dewin | Is someone admin-ish for wowi around? |
| 18:44.49 | Gnarfoz | <Fisker-> now i know why they need shadow res: "Because bosskillers says so" <-- well, they don't, but you knew that already |
| 18:44.53 | Shirik | define admin-ish |
| 18:45.28 | Dewin | Able to respond to or pass along a minor site suggestion ;) |
| 18:45.48 | Shirik | what's that? |
| 18:45.53 | Shirik | also there's an entire forum for that ;) |
| 18:45.57 | Dewin | When you're looking at addons, there's a "My Favorite" button. IMHO it'd make more sense to say "Add Favorite" when it's not currently marked as a favorite :) |
| 18:46.07 | Shirik | it doesn't? |
| 18:46.11 | Dewin | nope |
| 18:46.25 | Dewin | says the same text either way, it's just colored differently when favorited |
| 18:46.33 | Shirik | I think it used to |
| 18:46.36 | Shirik | I'll talk to the man |
| 18:46.39 | NightHawkTheSane | it did used to |
| 18:47.12 | Dewin | I figured it out pretty fast, but it would be kind of confusing to someone who didn't know (or who had trouble seeing the color difference for some reason) |
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| 18:49.00 | Dewin | Is it wrong if I'm secretly hoping to not make it into a raid today so I have time to raid on PTR instead? |
| 18:50.35 | Industrial | is the eu (live) login server down? |
| 18:50.45 | Industrial | I just get a box witout text and an empty button... |
| 18:51.09 | Industrial | never mind! |
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| 19:03.55 | Neuro_Medivh | oh good lord, the server is still lagged out the wazoo? |
| 19:04.07 | ScytheBlade1 | You were expecting anything else? |
| 19:04.58 | Neuro_Medivh | foolishly, yes |
| 19:05.10 | ScytheBlade1 | At least now you know the error of your ways |
| 19:09.54 | kd3 | oh wow. idiot |
| 19:10.08 | kd3 | the dumbass who "hacked" palin's yahoo account has been found |
| 19:11.50 | ScytheBlade1 | yup |
| 19:12.33 | Kaso | oh? any links to info? |
| 19:12.38 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:12.48 | foxlit | s/"hacked"/"used password recovery on"/ |
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| 19:12.58 | Lyn | any level 75+ mage on coldarra who can port me to dalaran?^^ |
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| 19:16.47 | foxlit | Hm, I wonder |
| 19:17.29 | Industrial | http://www.mikuchan.net/miku/src/122072972588.jpg |
| 19:17.32 | ScytheBlade1 | okay, wow. http://failblog.org/2008/09/08/conspiracy-fail/ |
| 19:17.38 | Industrial | this is so funny im posting it everywhere :D |
| 19:17.43 | foxlit | Could code a proper BFS for augmenting paths, or could just use the semi-broken implementation I have already, since that seems to work |
| 19:18.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Industrial: I think my video beats your image |
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| 19:18.34 | Kaso | lol he used a web anonymiser? |
| 19:18.44 | Kaso | Whats wrong with tor you 4chan noob :< |
| 19:19.50 | Industrial | I what? I directly copied a link. |
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| 19:20.00 | ScytheBlade1 | no no |
| 19:20.05 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm just saying my link > yours |
| 19:20.11 | Industrial | no, to Kaso. |
| 19:20.15 | kd3 | oh geez. what the hell? |
| 19:20.16 | Shirik | Why Linux > Windows: In Windows, you simply can't do this |
| 19:20.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, that's something else |
| 19:20.25 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: thats awesome |
| 19:20.30 | ScytheBlade1 | NightHawkTheSane: that's soooo awesome |
| 19:20.30 | Shirik | mpdelbuono@li23-154 ~/luasocket-2.0.2/src $ find . -type f | xargs grep -l 'luaL_openlib' | xargs sed -i -e 's/luaL_openlib.L, \([^,]*\), \([^,]*\), 0./luaL_register(L, \1, \2)/g' |
| 19:20.33 | Shirik | <3 sed |
| 19:20.47 | Kaso | I was talking about the person who "hacked" palin's email account |
| 19:21.36 | Industrial | Shirik: does it bring me a beer and the newspaper? |
| 19:21.38 | Kaso | uses a free web-anonymiser and thought it'd offer him some protection, failed to archive the whole email account before he posted the password. |
| 19:21.56 | Industrial | oh, lol :P |
| 19:22.21 | Fisker- | i |
| 19:22.32 | Industrial | you |
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| 19:22.44 | Kaso | Rather than using tor to protect virtually make himself invulnerable to tracking, and archiving the potentially criminal content of the account before letting /b/tards loose on it |
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| 19:23.35 | Shirik | hrm |
| 19:23.47 | Shirik | how can I make sure the program stays active even after I close terminal :/ |
| 19:23.53 | Shirik | I don't think "screen" is the right solution |
| 19:24.00 | Kaso | program & |
| 19:24.06 | Shirik | didn't seem to work |
| 19:24.12 | ScytheBlade1 | .. screen is the right solution if you need to come back to it |
| 19:24.17 | Shirik | I don't need to come back to it |
| 19:24.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Then & is your answer |
| 19:24.33 | Shirik | Then why did this happen: (15:23:16) - Quit: @Shiibot (n=Shiibot@li23-154.members.linode.com) (Remote closed the connection) |
| 19:24.40 | ScytheBlade1 | &> /dev/null & |
| 19:25.13 | Dewin | & just makes it run in the background |
| 19:25.21 | zenzelezz | what does the "&> /dev/null" do, redirect all output? |
| 19:25.24 | Dewin | you want nohup app --a-lot-of-options & |
| 19:25.28 | ScytheBlade1 | indeed |
| 19:25.47 | ScytheBlade1 | So that way the output stream doesn't go poof along with the termina |
| 19:25.49 | ScytheBlade1 | *terminal |
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| 19:25.59 | Shirik | ~fail ScytheBlade1 |
| 19:26.00 | purl | ScytheBlade1: FAIL! |
| 19:26.07 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm not the one with the problem |
| 19:26.09 | ScytheBlade1 | ~failrik |
| 19:26.10 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 19:26.11 | Shirik | :( |
| 19:26.16 | Industrial | ho shii |
| 19:26.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Paste the command? |
| 19:26.18 | Shirik | I thought about nohup but I didn't think I had that |
| 19:26.21 | Dewin | nohup tells the program to ignore a 'hang up' event (like you disconnecting) |
| 19:26.29 | Dewin | Shirik: It's pretty standard |
| 19:26.32 | Shirik | mpdelbuono@li23-154 ~ $ ./core.lua &> /dev/null & |
| 19:26.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Then either nohup or screen |
| 19:27.07 | Dewin | screen does give you the ability to log back into it later |
| 19:27.11 | selckin | or just fork() |
| 19:27.19 | Shirik | no real reason to log back into it |
| 19:27.23 | Shirik | the only thing it understands is SIGTERM |
| 19:27.39 | selckin | make it fork into the bg then |
| 19:27.44 | Dewin | I used to have my boxen use screen -DRR as a shell |
| 19:27.48 | Shirik | I'll just use nohup |
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| 19:28.17 | Shirik | yey |
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| 19:28.42 | Shirik | I thought that wasn't a linux thing; I probably should have looked |
| 19:29.08 | Kraps | aldor or scryers? |
| 19:29.33 | Kraps | prot warrior |
| 19:30.34 | Shirik | ok, time to restart |
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| 19:54.34 | foxlit | Hm, fun |
| 19:54.41 | foxlit | S = N union {infinity} |
| 19:58.44 | Anaral | Anyone have any suggestions of what I can during this week without WoW? |
| 19:58.55 | Shirik | troll the forums |
| 19:59.02 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 19:59.11 | ScytheBlade1 | There's almost an art to it |
| 19:59.40 | foxlit | hm, so you have no WoW. |
| 20:00.02 | Anaral | Heh, yeah, but the WoW forums make my head go boom after a very short amount of time. |
| 20:00.03 | foxlit | Just nothing capable of running the client, or something more sinister like a lapsed subscription or lack of internet access? |
| 20:00.51 | Anaral | My old 7800GT decided to crap out, and so now I'm waiting on Newegg to send me a 9800GT with a 700W PSU |
| 20:01.35 | foxlit | Those W numbers are scary |
| 20:01.56 | Anaral | Why? |
| 20:02.03 | foxlit | They seem horribly excessive. |
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| 20:03.05 | foxlit | I mean, that'd make sense for a tri-SLI and a raid-array of disks, maybe. |
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| 20:03.26 | foxlit | A single graphics card and a moderately new CPU probably land you at around 200W. |
| 20:03.48 | NightHawkTheSane | pfft. everyone knows more power -> faster cpu. *nod* |
| 20:03.59 | foxlit | plus everything that isn't a major component, and you could probably use 400W tops |
| 20:04.09 | Anaral | According to Asus' wattage calculater I need 550W (which I am sure is an over estimate), I can grow into the 700. |
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| 20:05.36 | Anaral | I was originally looking for the 600-650, but there was something about the 700 that I liked and as it was only $10 more than the 650, I bought it. |
| 20:06.27 | Anaral | I actually figure the bonus of the 700 is that if I update the MB or get additional drives, the PSU will be one less component I'll have to worry about. |
| 20:07.09 | foxlit | Asus' calculater doesn't appear to... work :/ |
| 20:07.13 | Anaral | foxlit: The min of the 9800GT is 425 |
| 20:07.24 | Anaral | It worked yesterday. |
| 20:07.39 | foxlit | some non-IE browser? |
| 20:07.49 | Anaral | I used Firefox 3 |
| 20:08.08 | Anaral | Actually no, I used 2, only upgraded to 3 last night. |
| 20:08.11 | foxlit | Maximum Graphics Card Power (W)105 W |
| 20:08.15 | foxlit | Minimum System Power Requirement (W)400 W |
| 20:08.46 | foxlit | Wonder where the other 295W goes :) |
| 20:08.49 | Anaral | Well then I have a lot of room to grow into. |
| 20:10.08 | Fisker- | awesome |
| 20:10.17 | Fisker- | corsair ads tells me i can see more frames per second |
| 20:10.23 | Fisker- | didn't know ram improved your vision |
| 20:10.32 | foxlit | RAM: apply directly to forehead |
| 20:11.11 | Anaral | *smirk* |
| 20:15.22 | NightHawkTheSane | what, you don't have a RAM port in the back of your head? |
| 20:16.12 | Anaral | Ooh, just redid the Asus' Wattage Calc, only included my HD, not my DVDR+RW/CDR+RW, so now it says 600. I know it says its taking highest stress into account, but still seems high considering my modest setup. |
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| 20:16.58 | NightHawkTheSane | Anaral: what it really means is "bumping up the numbers to make you buy more expensive stuff from us" |
| 20:20.00 | Anaral | Heh |
| 20:20.30 | Anaral | Um, does Asus sell power supplys? |
| 20:21.11 | foxlit | ~google asus psu |
| 20:21.38 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, they probably get kickbacks from the psu suppliers if not. :p |
| 20:23.07 | NightHawkTheSane | hey, random question, what are you guys using for bag mods in beta? |
| 20:23.33 | foxlit | bag mods?! don't need no stinkin' bag mods! |
| 20:23.37 | kd3 | onebag3? |
| 20:23.47 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: i weep for your bags, then. |
| 20:24.03 | foxlit | My bags are awesome; what about them? :) |
| 20:24.55 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got a badmod for you. shift+B. |
| 20:24.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Bam. |
| 20:25.49 | Anaral | NightHawkTheSane: Ive been using ArkInventory 3.0, getting it from his Google page. |
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| 20:26.34 | Anaral | Heh, Thermaltake says that i only need 311W... I must have missed something. lol |
| 20:27.18 | foxlit | seriously, a single GPU is around ~100W, a CPU is about the same |
| 20:28.14 | ccox | bagnon is working well (get the beta update) |
| 20:28.39 | ccox | foxlit - high end GPUs can take more |
| 20:28.57 | ccox | foxlit - for instance, the one I have in my PC is 250W by itself (yeah, it's hot) |
| 20:29.15 | foxlit | What do you have in your PC? |
| 20:29.49 | ccox | a very, very high end card for GPGPU work |
| 20:30.01 | foxlit | ... which is called... |
| 20:30.34 | ccox | which is called "not shipping for a few more weeks" |
| 20:31.14 | Anaral | So that means you can't tell us the name of it? |
| 20:31.25 | ccox | yeah |
| 20:31.57 | ccox | let me see if I can find something similar, and shipping |
| 20:32.04 | ccox | (I know I've seen worse in the store) |
| 20:32.07 | p3lim | hm the Wowhead contest |
| 20:32.13 | p3lim | pic #2 is hard, im ally, anyone? |
| 20:32.18 | p3lim | http://skosiris.com/wowhead/name-that-screenshot-take-2/day-2/3-2.jpg |
| 20:32.21 | p3lim | whats that? :p |
| 20:32.55 | ccox | photoshop's radial blur filter applied in zoom mode |
| 20:33.34 | Fisker- | a white tauren |
| 20:33.39 | p3lim | yeah but its from something |
| 20:34.41 | ccox | foxlit - QuadroFX 4700x2 is close |
| 20:34.47 | ccox | 226W |
| 20:34.59 | foxlit | The x2 stands for internal SLI |
| 20:35.15 | foxlit | So that's essentially 2 cards eating 113W |
| 20:35.16 | Duman | server crash |
| 20:35.17 | Duman | lame |
| 20:35.27 | Tem | kaboom |
| 20:35.34 | Tem | full server or just world server? |
| 20:35.41 | ccox | foxlit - more or less, but it's a single unit |
| 20:36.08 | foxlit | (But yeah, the newer NVIDIA multi-core monstrosities eat more power. They'll probably end up cutting some cores for the non-$$$ versions) |
| 20:36.11 | Duman | just northrend I think |
| 20:36.22 | ccox | and ATI doesn't list their power requirements |
| 20:36.31 | ccox | foxlit - yes, they always do |
| 20:36.49 | ccox | but ATI and NVIDIA both do the same things |
| 20:37.14 | Tem | I will never use an ATI card again |
| 20:37.22 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 20:37.27 | Tem | I wiped my Nef group one too many times |
| 20:37.46 | Anaral | I've never used an ATI and don't plan to, either. |
| 20:38.13 | foxlit | I'm tempted by their newer R4---something |
| 20:38.22 | ccox | both companies are pretty close in performance, and in driver stability, and in price |
| 20:38.44 | ccox | now, Intel integrated graphics chipsets - run away, quickly |
| 20:39.14 | ScytheBlade1 | I picked intel video for my laptop over NV. |
| 20:39.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, and over ATI. |
| 20:39.36 | Tem | because it was cheaper and you never plan to play games on your laptop? |
| 20:39.44 | ccox | Scythe - enjoy that compatibility and driver stability! (well, the lack of them...) |
| 20:39.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Becuase I wanted drivers that worked for my OS |
| 20:39.51 | ScytheBlade1 | I am ;) |
| 20:39.54 | ScytheBlade1 | It isn't windows ;) |
| 20:40.31 | Duman | yay |
| 20:40.32 | Duman | logged in |
| 20:40.34 | Tem | boom |
| 20:40.34 | Duman | and it crashed again |
| 20:40.38 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 20:40.39 | Duman | stupid poop |
| 20:43.21 | Duman | hmm, full loading bar again |
| 20:44.11 | Tem | yeah, this is how it works |
| 20:44.17 | Tem | aren't you used to this by now? |
| 20:51.25 | Duman | heh |
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| 21:09.55 | Dewin | wow, I feel stupid. |
| 21:10.24 | Dewin | I've just spent the last 15 minutes trying to figure out why my crit rating was 8% lower in PTR than on live with same gear... and even went through all of the equipment comparing crit rating and agi to live. |
| 21:10.35 | ScytheBlade1 | And then you read the forums. |
| 21:10.37 | Dewin | .... I was looking at melee stats instead of ranged, and I'm a hunter. |
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| 21:10.41 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 21:10.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Or that |
| 21:10.57 | Dewin | For a while I was convinced my character was glitched and had negative base crit |
| 21:10.59 | ScytheBlade1 | They had a bug not long ago where hit/crit rating for melee was causing it to decrease instead of increase |
| 21:11.05 | Dewin | oops? |
| 21:11.07 | ScytheBlade1 | ie this very patch |
| 21:11.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, they fixed it server side and restarted it |
| 21:11.33 | Dewin | I had stripped and my tooltips were saying I have X crit rating (+Y% crit chance) while still showing 0.00% crit chance |
| 21:11.39 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 21:11.40 | ScytheBlade1 | whoops |
| 21:11.59 | Dewin | I equipped items one by one to see what it'd take to go above 0%... put my axe on and boom it went to 9% |
| 21:12.05 | Dewin | of COURSE my crit rating for unarmed is 0% |
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| 21:22.24 | Sixen | Anyone need a blizzcon ticket? |
| 21:26.43 | ccox | for me the problem was that all my enchants had been removed |
| 21:32.01 | Dewin | Discovery: using the hunter ability Disengage with your back to a cliff will cause your character to happily leap to his or her doom. |
| 21:37.43 | Syzgyn | Hah |
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| 21:38.04 | nevcairiel | well deserved huntards |
| 21:38.49 | Dashkal | AnduinLothar: your glyphs are in the mail |
| 21:39.00 | AnduinLothar | thx |
| 21:39.02 | AnduinLothar | ! |
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| 22:05.23 | AnduinLothar | Instant Cast Hammer of Wrath ftw! |
| 22:06.02 | Tem | god damnit |
| 22:06.06 | Tem | I hate that "feature" |
| 22:06.48 | ScytheBlade1 | ? |
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| 22:14.13 | Dewin | Sixen: Eh? |
| 22:14.27 | Dewin | nevermind, my IRC window scrolled up |
| 22:14.39 | Dewin | you had said something about blizzcon tickets |
| 22:14.52 | ScytheBlade1 | I've gotta say that Disengage with your back to a cliff is both awesome and expected |
| 22:14.56 | ScytheBlade1 | hmm afk |
| 22:15.09 | Dewin | Scythe: That's what I figured too |
| 22:15.17 | Dewin | I was thinking it might be smart like, say, blink, which won't blink you over a cliff |
| 22:15.55 | foxlit | I'm all for scaling Disengage with Intelllect |
| 22:16.00 | Dewin | LOL |
| 22:16.07 | Dewin | if you're smart you look before you leap? |
| 22:16.24 | Dewin | or they'll add it as a survival talent. |
| 22:16.30 | Dewin | [Look Before You Leap] |
| 22:17.01 | Dewin | "You have a 33/66/100% chance of noticing the bottomless pit you are about to jump into." |
| 22:19.41 | foxlit | Also, /suggest purchasable parachutes |
| 22:20.00 | foxlit | Which would take a few seconds to expand fully, then lend you a slow-fall effect until you land. |
| 22:23.03 | Dewin | you mean... besides the engineering one? |
| 22:29.56 | Sixen | Dewin: Got an extra one due to my fansite. |
| 22:29.57 | zenzelezz | intriguing... a *French* PayPal e-mail, saying something like "Activate". And they even use a .info domain! Can't get much more legit than that |
| 22:30.20 | Sixen | We were saving it for someone but they no longer need it, so now our ticket contest is over and we have an extra. |
| 22:31.29 | Dewin | Sixen: Interesting. If I had the money I'd go for it. |
| 22:31.46 | Dewin | What fansite? |
| 22:31.53 | Sixen | =p |
| 22:31.57 | Dewin | (I feel like I should already know this) |
| 22:32.04 | Sixen | www.sc2pod.com |
| 22:32.17 | Dewin | ahh, a starcraft II site? :) |
| 22:32.31 | Sixen | Mmmm, =p. I don't own it, i'm the co-owner per se. |
| 22:32.34 | Dewin | I see. |
| 22:32.47 | Sixen | Anyway, i'll brb. |
| 22:35.15 | AnduinLothar | so... 1933dps in all of Gundrak... |
| 22:35.27 | AnduinLothar | kinda hax |
| 22:35.46 | AnduinLothar | and i didn't drink once |
| 22:41.33 | zenzelezz | hm, even with grey-quest minimap tracking, I hope they divide the quest achievements into zones or something similar, so you at least get a general idea what/where you're missing something |
| 22:47.27 | Neuro_Medivh | I wonder if worldofwhorecraft counts as a fan site |
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| 23:03.18 | [SW]Dodge | Neuro_Medivh: afaik blizz does not like world of whorecraft :D |
| 23:03.36 | [SW]Dodge | didnt they perm banned one of the girls form wow? |
| 23:03.49 | [SW]Dodge | iirc she played an ud warlock |
| 23:05.29 | [SW]Dodge | german wikipedia says "Mia Rose" got banned in August 2k7 |
| 23:06.30 | [SW]Dodge | but ostensible due to account sharing |
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| 23:14.20 | |pez| | never scratch self, when having chili... residue?... on fingers. |
| 23:14.43 | Iriel | That would be more amusing with 'scratch' instead of scratch |
| 23:14.54 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
| 23:15.10 | NightHawkTheSane | probably not for |pez| though. :) |
| 23:15.40 | Iriel | Very true |
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| 23:16.18 | alestane | There are probably people who would do that for the conflict of experiences. |
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| 23:18.45 | zenzelezz | alestane: "scratch" or scratch? |
| 23:19.39 | |pez| | 'scratch' ? |
| 23:20.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Iriel: in what respect? i haven't noticed anything, but I honestly don't use firefox very much. |
| 23:21.23 | Iriel | I think it's a combination of the windows I have open and how I'm using Spaces |
| 23:21.59 | Iriel | I have two firefoxes (different configs) on different spaces, but IRC on all spaces, and when I flip over and right click things in the second firefox, it's not taking keyboard focus away from Colloquy |
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| 23:22.14 | Iriel | Which is why I keep closing this channel because I hit Command W |
| 23:25.29 | ScytheBlade1 | *hates |
| 23:25.41 | ScytheBlade1 | I find myself hitting ctrl+W to delete a word in a firefox when I'm writing a post |
| 23:25.45 | ScytheBlade1 | ... poof goes the tab |
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| 23:37.36 | cbreak | ctrl-T |
| 23:37.45 | cbreak | I think it's that combo |
| 23:37.53 | cbreak | or ctrl-shift-T |
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| 23:43.39 | NightHawkTheSane | mm.. subs.. |
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