| 00:00.28 | Zootfizzle | Later folks ;) |
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| 00:00.48 | kd3 | holy... when'd he log in? |
| 00:00.52 | Shirik | .. |
| 00:00.55 | Shirik | slow kd3 is slow |
| 00:01.05 | NightHawkTheSane | srsly |
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| 00:07.07 | ScytheBlade1 | So... why are all of these banks dying at the same time? |
| 00:07.23 | Codayus | Mix of two reasons. |
| 00:07.31 | Shirik | more banks? |
| 00:07.44 | Shirik | I saw DJIA was -440 today |
| 00:07.51 | Codayus | 1) A lot of them are being hammered by being very stupid about mortgages. "Make the same mistake, get the same results..." |
| 00:07.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I saw that too |
| 00:08.54 | Codayus | 2) A few are having issues because OTHER financial instituions did retarded things, and now there's doubt about whether they'll be able to pay up on complex deals or trades they've signed with saner banks. (Saner, in this case meaning "smart enough not to lend money to people who can't repay it") |
| 00:09.19 | bleeter | haha priceless "It was an unfair attack on the verbiage that Senator McCain chose to use..." |
| 00:09.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Kinda have to wonder who came up with such ideas and their reasons behind it |
| 00:09.36 | Shirik | for saying? |
| 00:09.48 | Codayus | What ideas? |
| 00:10.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Being stupid about mortgages |
| 00:10.04 | Codayus | Heh |
| 00:10.06 | Codayus | That's easy too. |
| 00:10.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Well |
| 00:10.17 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd imagine they wanted to "make more money" |
| 00:10.20 | Arrowmaster | a lot of companies loan money to people that have no chance of paying them back |
| 00:10.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Something tells me that's a key |
| 00:10.55 | Codayus | Very very short form: Banks realized that it'd be really cool to sell the mortgages they made to other people. The other people were VERY VERY sure they had a very good method to calculate the risk in buying these mortgages. |
| 00:10.57 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: pretty much a lot of people thought they could make easy money speculating on mortgages |
| 00:11.01 | Codayus | The other people were VERY VERY wrong. |
| 00:11.03 | Codayus | The end. |
| 00:11.03 | Arrowmaster | look at the number of people in credit card debit that will likely never pay it all off yet still have credit cards |
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| 00:11.24 | NightHawkTheSane | (which you can thank deregulation for) |
| 00:11.39 | neurodamage | so I'm interested in finding a thing interface that's really popular I used to use but I can't remember the name of it? |
| 00:11.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Stupid pricks breaking the economy |
| 00:13.10 | Codayus | The banks operates sensibly. If someone will buy your crap mortgage, you might as well make it. Hey, no skin off YOUR nose. It was the big investment banks that really screwed up. Bunches of the most highly paid experts honestly decided that buying junk mortages was a perfectly fine idea, because hey, there's no way they could default...unless house prices drop, but that can't happen, so hey, free money! |
| 00:13.31 | ScytheBlade1 | mmmm assumptions |
| 00:15.18 | ScytheBlade1 | ... I have an odd urge to blow off my raid tonight and play the W40k RTS |
| 00:15.57 | Shirik | yes! |
| 00:15.59 | Shirik | DoW? |
| 00:16.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Aye |
| 00:16.08 | ScytheBlade1 | And I have all of the expansions |
| 00:16.08 | Shirik | I should get into that |
| 00:16.22 | Codayus | What's amusing/terrifying here is that the biggest mistakes were being made not by your local banker or mortgage broker or the borrowers, but by the Masters of the Universe - the traders on Wall Street with 8 or 9 digit salaries and masters or phds... |
| 00:16.39 | Shirik | I played the board game for a while |
| 00:16.42 | Shirik | loooong time ago |
| 00:16.56 | ScytheBlade1 | The MMO can go die, simply because I can't pilot a giant robotic suit that picks up infantry, crushes them, spins them around in circles for a bit and then throws them clear off your field of vision |
| 00:17.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Codayus: indeed. |
| 00:17.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Such an element in an MMO might be seen as 'overpowered' |
| 00:17.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Codayus: and the best part is, they're not the ones who will be footing the bill for their mistakes. |
| 00:17.28 | Codayus | Well, in the short run, they are... |
| 00:17.35 | Codayus | Lots of people out of jobs suddenly. |
| 00:17.42 | Codayus | Eh, that didn't come out right. |
| 00:17.48 | Arrowmaster | Codayus: you mean like united airlines stock tanking the otherday because googlenews accidently got a story from like 2002 about united filing for bankrupcy reposted as recent? |
| 00:18.08 | Codayus | Clarification: They ARE paying for their mistakes, but not paying anything like their "share" if you assign blame. |
| 00:18.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: the entire game (+ expansions) uses lua for... everything, btw |
| 00:18.29 | ScytheBlade1 | From the UI to attacking to using abilities |
| 00:18.33 | Arrowmaster | and clicking the article link and reading like the very first line showed it was from like 2002 |
| 00:18.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Codayus: im sure the 'movers and shakers' that were "put out" have nice severence packages, and will see very few -personal- reprecussions. |
| 00:21.30 | Codayus | *shrug* Short answer: Agreed. Long answer: Kinda. But they have mortages and commitments and car loans and whatever just like anyone else. Going from making $10mil to $0 isn't any LESS traumatizing than going from $30k to $0. *shrug* |
| 00:22.51 | WobWork | Your short answer has one more letter than your long one =( |
| 00:23.08 | |Jelly| | Difference is, the 30k person might have been barely making electric bill or gas or etc etc. |
| 00:23.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Codayus: sure it is, do you really think that the person making $30k/yr has the savings to live without that income for very long? |
| 00:23.45 | Dewin | Does anybody know how to *macro* activating a mount in WoTLK? I know the normal way, but I'm trying to make my /cast [flyable] Mount1; Mount2 macro work. |
| 00:23.52 | Jamash | yeah the $10mil guy has savings and investments and stuff, and sure they may be tanking too but they're better than $10,000 in credid card debt |
| 00:23.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Dewin: the normal way. |
| 00:24.02 | Dewin | does not work |
| 00:24.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Works for me |
| 00:24.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Don't be in Dalaran |
| 00:24.12 | Duman | hmm, forums have been devoid of blues today |
| 00:24.15 | NightHawkTheSane | I wrote an addon. |
| 00:24.16 | Duman | *beta forums |
| 00:24.17 | Dewin | PTR, I don't have access to Dalaran :) |
| 00:24.20 | NightHawkTheSane | I've been considering releasing it |
| 00:24.21 | Codayus | The trick is, the $10m person was probably maxed out with a exotic car and big house somewhere crazy expensive like NYC or a nice part of London, and probably doesn't have much more savings than the $30k guy - not in terms of his costs. |
| 00:24.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Dewin: works for me in beta ;) |
| 00:24.41 | Duman | dewin: should work |
| 00:24.41 | Dewin | - /cast [flyable] Mount1; Mount2 does? |
| 00:24.46 | Duman | can't test in PTR since they broke us |
| 00:24.49 | Duman | yes |
| 00:24.56 | Codayus | Not saying they deserve too much sympathy. Not being able to afford your Bentley sucks, but hey, at least you had a Bentley, right? |
| 00:24.57 | Dewin | what build is beta at right now? |
| 00:24.58 | Duman | assuming mount1 is the flyer ;) |
| 00:24.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Codayus: if that's the case, he's an absolute -moron-, and deserves to starve in a ditch, I really doubt that's the case, especially for someone employed as an investment banker. |
| 00:25.01 | Duman | same number |
| 00:25.15 | Duman | 8926 or something? |
| 00:25.19 | NightHawkTheSane | even the bad ones have to have some concept of savings. :p |
| 00:25.26 | Dewin | yeah, nothing happens when I /cast it... let me try it on then normal blizz bar, maybei t's my action bar addon |
| 00:25.33 | Duman | dewin |
| 00:25.35 | Shirik | try /use |
| 00:25.35 | Codayus | Heh, you'd be surprised. Nobody ever thinks it'll happen to them... |
| 00:25.37 | Duman | make sure you destroyed the item |
| 00:25.39 | Duman | after you learned it |
| 00:25.43 | Duman | (or put it in your bank) |
| 00:26.11 | NightHawkTheSane | unrelated: WTF?!? http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/lifestyle/books/irish-author-eoin-colfer-to-write-new-hitchhikers-guide-book-13974791.html |
| 00:26.28 | Codayus | OTOH... Some British paper (Guardian, perhaps?) had a sob story recently about a dog walker in Kensington who is now out of work because of all the Lehman bankers who now have time to walk their own dogs. |
| 00:26.43 | Dewin | Duman: I did. |
| 00:26.48 | Dewin | Okay... |
| 00:26.49 | Jamash | NHTS: ew |
| 00:26.56 | Dewin | /cast Swift Frostsaber works. /cast Swift Red Gryphon does not |
| 00:27.05 | Dewin | I wonder if it's because the mount and the spell share names in the latter case so it's breaking. |
| 00:27.22 | Jamash | try shift-clicking the pet book with the macro window open |
| 00:27.26 | Codayus | Both the Lehman banker and the dog walker have lost their job. Both may find this may require sacrifices, selling their house, moving somewhere cheaper, scrimping...whatever. It's hard not to sympathise more with the dog walker than the banker though. |
| 00:28.02 | bleeter | I sympathise more with the dogs |
| 00:28.02 | Dewin | No dice Jamash |
| 00:28.21 | Jamash | in that case it sounds bugged |
| 00:28.27 | Dewin | I think it's because the item and mount have the same name, tbh... I can use my nonflying pet (which have differing names -- Swift Frostaber vs Reins of the Swift Frostsaber) fine |
| 00:28.43 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont sympathize with anyone who makes 6 figures or more. |
| 00:28.47 | Dewin | bug nonetheless, but I like to figure out the cause |
| 00:28.56 | bleeter | oO dogs make six figures? |
| 00:29.11 | NightHawkTheSane | also unrelated: http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/enjoy_that_sausage |
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| 00:30.30 | NightHawkTheSane | ooh, national organization for women endorses obama/biden: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/hillarys-women-reject-mccains-vp-choice-933050.html |
| 00:40.00 | Industrial | a setback for John McCain's hopes of luring the millions of women who supported Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primaries |
| 00:40.13 | Industrial | so all those women vote for women just because they are women? |
| 00:40.23 | NightHawkTheSane | thats what john mccain thinks! |
| 00:45.45 | Tem | can we avoid politics in here? |
| 00:45.48 | Tem | please |
| 00:46.06 | Jamash | politics are awesome |
| 00:46.25 | |Jelly| | in the sense that they generally turn people into raving lunatics |
| 00:46.39 | Jamash | my d&d gm is a libertarian |
| 00:46.44 | Jamash | I think it's funny |
| 00:47.52 | Jamash | she got into a giant argument with a player about government *in-game* |
| 00:48.48 | WobWork | Jamash's DM: "Right! Fine! That's it! Rocks Fall, EVERYONE DIES!" |
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| 00:49.15 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: I came SO close to a TPK in my game last weekend. :p |
| 00:50.24 | WobWork | hehe |
| 00:50.32 | WobWork | It's the thrill that makes it entertaining =) |
| 00:51.20 | WobWork | although, honestly... http://somethingpositive.net/sp05032002.shtml will always be the best response ever |
| 00:51.28 | WobWork | s/although/cause/ |
| 00:51.45 | Syzgyn | Nooooo |
| 00:51.52 | Syzgyn | Working on 4H and server shutdown :( |
| 00:52.06 | Jamash | I made <Rocks Fall Everyone Dies> on PTR once |
| 00:52.47 | smcn | OHHHHH |
| 00:52.53 | smcn | i can has build plx??????/ |
| 00:53.37 | Tem | me 2 plox |
| 00:53.38 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: ping. ;) |
| 00:54.54 | ScytheBlade1 | NightHawkTheSane: pong |
| 00:55.11 | Tem | [Server]: SHUTDOWN in 15:00. |
| 00:55.16 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ |
| 00:55.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Not on beta at-- OH |
| 00:55.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Noted! |
| 00:55.54 | smcn | funny that lag instantly clears up with the shutdown message |
| 00:56.06 | NightHawkTheSane | smcn: lag hasn't actually been too bad lately |
| 00:57.42 | jaxdahl | ScytheBlade1, fire up your script |
| 00:58.26 | ScytheBlade1 | jaxdahl: slow, read up :) |
| 00:58.44 | jaxdahl | no, i know |
| 00:58.47 | ScytheBlade1 | The nice thing about said script is that I can just sit here and wait for the text message to tell me the build number, followed by the one that tells me it's been downloaded |
| 00:59.00 | jaxdahl | hmm... how can you get the build number? |
| 00:59.06 | jaxdahl | friends on the inside? |
| 00:59.15 | Tem | polling |
| 00:59.17 | jaxdahl | ok |
| 00:59.20 | Tem | lots o fit |
| 00:59.32 | jaxdahl | thought ScytheBlade1 meant a cell phone text message |
| 00:59.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I do |
| 00:59.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Did, whatever |
| 01:00.13 | jaxdahl | no confirmation they're going down for patching though |
| 01:00.40 | jaxdahl | no post by gradina in the bug report forum |
| 01:01.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Check EU general, not US anything |
| 01:01.54 | ScytheBlade1 | beta EU general that is |
| 01:02.16 | ScytheBlade1 | or was it tech support? |
| 01:02.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 01:04.16 | jaxdahl | nothing on eu beta |
| 01:06.29 | NightHawkTheSane | hmmm |
| 01:06.29 | NightHawkTheSane | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/13/10043215744-ptr-down-for-update-91708--6pm-pst.html |
| 01:06.32 | NightHawkTheSane | coincidence? |
| 01:06.54 | smcn | well, current ptr is 8926 is it now? |
| 01:06.57 | smcn | s/now/not/ |
| 01:07.02 | ScytheBlade1 | fyi I'm only bothering with beta patches |
| 01:07.12 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i figured |
| 01:07.13 | smcn | so i'd assume they wouldn't update the ptr without updating beta ;) |
| 01:07.19 | NightHawkTheSane | but if ptr is going down for a build, beta probably is too. |
| 01:07.24 | NightHawkTheSane | especially since.. they both went down at the same time |
| 01:08.25 | kd3 | it is a patch |
| 01:08.29 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10043215744&sid=1&pageNo=1#6 |
| 01:09.00 | jaxdahl | ahhh, test realm forum |
| 01:09.04 | NightHawkTheSane | thats the same thread i just linked. wtb faster kd3 |
| 01:09.08 | jaxdahl | they keep putting the info in different forums |
| 01:09.58 | jaxdahl | welp, 6 hours |
| 01:10.02 | jaxdahl | gonna be 2 am here |
| 01:10.10 | NeoTron | maybe they are using the PTR to test beta builds :P |
| 01:10.19 | NeoTron | if PTR doens't crash and burn, patch to BETA the next day |
| 01:10.38 | Tem | NeoTron, read the thread |
| 01:10.45 | Tem | "The Beta realms will also be down and updated to the same version as the PTR." |
| 01:10.58 | NeoTron | ah I missed that comment |
| 01:11.15 | NeoTron | weird though to have to see that on the ptr forums |
| 01:11.22 | smcn | ScytheBlade1: what will you say when you have a build number so i can highlight it ;) |
| 01:11.25 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, false? |
| 01:11.39 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: *shrug* probably just delay in posting or something. |
| 01:11.41 | ScytheBlade1 | smcn: uhh, I've no idea |
| 01:11.44 | smcn | lol |
| 01:11.49 | Tem | Neotron yeah... they keep posting that info in different forums |
| 01:12.06 | NeoTron | usually it's in the beta bug report forum |
| 01:12.15 | NightHawkTheSane | maaven probably got around to posting it first, so s/he posted it there. |
| 01:12.28 | Tem | NeoTron, for a while, yeah, but last patch was posted in beta general |
| 01:12.39 | NightHawkTheSane | wouldn't be surprised if threads crop up in the beta forums |
| 01:13.31 | NightHawkTheSane | that reminds me, did they ever fix the issue with beta accounts on the ptr? |
| 01:13.37 | kd3 | not yet |
| 01:13.43 | kd3 | probably not til they update auth again |
| 01:14.14 | NightHawkTheSane | not that i really care about that, i guess |
| 01:14.24 | Tem | DK pvp update: |
| 01:14.28 | Tem | I just raped a warlock. |
| 01:14.32 | Tem | it was awesome |
| 01:15.05 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:15.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Nice job |
| 01:15.07 | Tem | Lichborn, AMS > fear, dots |
| 01:15.13 | ScytheBlade1 | I 110% approve |
| 01:15.24 | Tem | then I silenced him |
| 01:15.59 | ScytheBlade1 | We're on 8926 currently, yes? |
| 01:16.12 | jaxdahl | 8926, yes |
| 01:16.13 | kd3 | ya |
| 01:16.17 | ScytheBlade1 | k, just making sure |
| 01:16.41 | jaxdahl | i should go to bed now |
| 01:16.55 | jaxdahl | and wake up in 6 hours, download, patch, test (play) |
| 01:17.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, text messages work |
| 01:17.12 | ScytheBlade1 | I'll be back when I have something :P |
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| 01:27.32 | Jamash | apparently my addon has been added to a chinese UI compilation |
| 01:27.51 | NightHawkTheSane | ... grats? |
| 01:28.15 | Jamash | I guess |
| 01:28.37 | Arrowmaster | dont worry i think everything else has been too |
| 01:29.04 | Thunder_Child | not the kitchen sink |
| 01:29.18 | jaxdahl | i can say this is one build i'm really looking forward to |
| 01:31.16 | NeoTron | Tem: and.. you'er surprised? :P |
| 01:31.53 | Tem | no servers yet, right? |
| 01:32.05 | Tem | =P |
| 01:32.13 | Tem | I promise I won't ask every 10m |
| 01:32.31 | NightHawkTheSane | ill believe it when i see it. or, don't see it, as it were. |
| 01:39.23 | steev | is it possible to "configure" kgPanels or whatever the "next" version of eePanels is, manually, as in without logging in to game |
| 01:40.15 | NightHawkTheSane | edit the SVs? |
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| 01:41.04 | steev | pretty much yeah - but without having installed it before - so really, uh, if someone has a sv for it, if they wouldn't mind pasting it somewhere |
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| 01:56.28 | steev | also, dreamlayout doesn't look the same with buttonfacade |
| 01:56.46 | steev | or i have a border from something else, i don't know what though |
| 02:00.50 | cog|away | ~fail me |
| 02:00.51 | purl | cog|away, you Fail! |
| 02:00.55 | cog|away | http://cogwheel.info/upload/files/lern2select.jpg |
| 02:01.49 | Dewin | ... is that a threek? |
| 02:03.27 | Corrodias | why is there a line drawn here? |
| 02:03.34 | NightHawkTheSane | lol, nice line, cog. |
| 02:04.09 | Thunder_Child | cog|away, just blame it on your cat |
| 02:04.12 | NightHawkTheSane | also, is it just me, or is there a disturbing lack of meat in on that plate |
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| 02:04.28 | Thunder_Child | agreed NightHawkTheSane |
| 02:04.37 | NightHawkTheSane | s/in // |
| 02:04.39 | Thunder_Child | salad and potatoes |
| 02:04.43 | Legorol | there is meat |
| 02:04.57 | cog|away | NightHawkTheSane: the sauce on the potatoes was leftover from the swordfish we had last night ;D |
| 02:05.04 | Legorol | oh nvm, it's potatoes with the skin on |
| 02:05.16 | Thunder_Child | Legorol, time to buy some glasses? |
| 02:05.22 | Legorol | who eats potatoes without peeling them :/ |
| 02:05.23 | NightHawkTheSane | cog|away: .. i don't think that quite counts ;) it also reduced the tastiness of that picture by quite a bit |
| 02:05.23 | Shirik | ............ |
| 02:05.26 | Shirik | I pulled aggro on bloodboil |
| 02:05.30 | Shirik | with salv and tranquil air |
| 02:05.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Legorol: .. LOTS of people? the skins are GREAT |
| 02:05.33 | Shirik | as a holy priest |
| 02:05.39 | |Jelly| | ....... |
| 02:05.42 | Shirik | TWICE |
| 02:05.45 | cog|away | Legorol: they're red tomatoes |
| 02:05.56 | cog|away | the skins are really smooth and tender |
| 02:05.57 | Jamash | who peels potatoes? |
| 02:06.04 | |Jelly| | ~failrick |
| 02:06.09 | cog|away | they're not tough & starchy like russets |
| 02:06.11 | |Jelly| | ~sigh |
| 02:06.12 | purl | *sigh* |
| 02:06.20 | Shirik | and the tank is like "Something's really wrong. I've never seen you that high before. In fact, I've never seen you on Omen before" |
| 02:06.20 | |Jelly| | ~failrik |
| 02:06.21 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 02:06.26 | cog|away | (and tasty) |
| 02:06.41 | NightHawkTheSane | red potatoes are, indeed, tasty |
| 02:07.06 | Legorol | yes, now that WotLK is due, I'm starting the TBC start areas |
| 02:07.11 | NightHawkTheSane | i never finished those quests. |
| 02:07.15 | cog|away | also, I usually pan roast a ribeye or new york steak on fridays... i'd rather have really good meat once a week than costco crap all week ;) |
| 02:07.56 | cog|away | (with my own sekrit seasoning ;) ) |
| 02:08.04 | WobWork | =( |
| 02:08.07 | NightHawkTheSane | I dunno if i could deal with meat only once a week. |
| 02:08.16 | cog|away | we have fish on tuesdays |
| 02:08.24 | WobWork | not fridays? |
| 02:08.31 | NightHawkTheSane | you also plan out your meals more than i do. :p |
| 02:08.32 | WobWork | oh wait STEAK |
| 02:08.35 | Jamash | meat destroys the environment, true story |
| 02:08.40 | cog|away | and last week we ate my breakfast burritos every morning (that have meat) |
| 02:08.41 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm like "hmm... waht do i feel like having tonight.." |
| 02:08.45 | WobWork | well, humans are made from meat |
| 02:08.51 | WobWork | and humans destroy the environment |
| 02:08.51 | cog|away | Jamash++ |
| 02:08.55 | WobWork | so you're absolutely right! |
| 02:09.24 | Thunder_Child | Potatoes are always better with the skin on + they are more healthy |
| 02:09.29 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ |
| 02:09.33 | Jamash | all the nutrition is in the skin |
| 02:09.35 | Thunder_Child | (the first part is an opnion i know) |
| 02:09.41 | Jamash | the rest is pure starch |
| 02:09.56 | WobWork | I have a friend who eats nothing but potatoes |
| 02:09.56 | cog|away | tater skins are best smothered in cheese, garlic, and bacon |
| 02:10.01 | WobWork | She's irish |
| 02:10.02 | WobWork | and strange |
| 02:10.11 | Jamash | run up behind her and shout POTATO FAMINE! |
| 02:10.12 | cog|away | imo |
| 02:10.29 | NightHawkTheSane | cog|away: honestly, lots of things are best smothered in cheese, garlic, and bacon. |
| 02:10.39 | WobWork | There's not much that bacon can't imprpve |
| 02:10.42 | cog|away | i want to try chocolate covered bacon |
| 02:10.42 | WobWork | improve |
| 02:11.06 | cogwheel | they made it on dinner impossible and everyone loved it |
| 02:11.30 | Jamash | I invented the flash frozen chocolate covered banana |
| 02:11.41 | Jamash | you dunk a banana in liquid nitrogen |
| 02:11.50 | Jamash | then dunk it in liquid chocolate sauce |
| 02:11.55 | Thunder_Child | hah, i think we have had this discusion before, i think Shirik mentioned that you can improve bacon with bacon WobWork |
| 02:12.03 | Thunder_Child | s/can/cant/ |
| 02:12.23 | Shirik | Yes you can |
| 02:12.26 | NightHawkTheSane | bacon wrapped bacon would be EXCELLENET |
| 02:12.26 | WobWork | You're saying that if you're eating bacon |
| 02:12.32 | WobWork | that more bacon is not improving the situation? |
| 02:12.33 | cogwheel | Tekkub: <3 your avatar http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/member.php?userid=20806 |
| 02:12.36 | NightHawkTheSane | s/net/nt/ |
| 02:12.42 | Shirik | wait |
| 02:12.45 | Shirik | I forget which side I took |
| 02:12.47 | Shirik | can you remind me? |
| 02:12.49 | Thunder_Child | it's isnt improving the bacon....the situation is different |
| 02:12.54 | NightHawkTheSane | ~failrik |
| 02:12.55 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 02:13.03 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, i think it was that you cant improve backon with bacon |
| 02:13.06 | Shirik | ok |
| 02:13.08 | Thunder_Child | bacon* |
| 02:13.08 | Shirik | well you can't |
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| 02:13.17 | WobWork | http://community.livejournal.com/food_porn/3765199.html |
| 02:13.27 | cogwheel | ham wrapped in bacon wrapped in pancetta wrapped in prosciuto |
| 02:13.38 | cogwheel | and stuffed with cheese! |
| 02:13.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik, you should go into politics: "[19:12:23] <@Shirik> Yes you can", "[19:13:08] <@Shirik> well you can't" |
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| 02:15.38 | cogwheel | s/cheese/a rich ravioli-like filling of brie, ricotta, basil, and of course bacon bits/ |
| 02:15.47 | WobWork | also http://community.livejournal.com/food_porn/4851717.html |
| 02:16.05 | WobWork | Candied Bacon ice cream |
| 02:16.12 | cogwheel | sounds yummy :P |
| 02:16.23 | WobWork | Bacon apple pie? |
| 02:16.23 | cogwheel | i'd think of it like salty peanuts on a payday |
| 02:17.36 | WobWork | http://community.livejournal.com/food_porn/3979573.html |
| 02:17.39 | WobWork | recipe included |
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| 02:18.19 | Tem | any news with the build? |
| 02:18.26 | cogwheel | i bet it would be like honey glazed ham |
| 02:18.44 | Dewin | Why doesn't the realm status page show PTR/beta realms? |
| 02:18.50 | Dewin | (And yes, I know the maint is 6 hrs) |
| 02:20.43 | Thunder_Child | so, think of this like a lasaniga. Layer of bacon, then cheese, then bacon, then caramel, then more bacon with a toping of hashbrowns |
| 02:22.36 | cogwheel | i dip breakfast saussage in syrup |
| 02:22.53 | cogwheel | Jamash: still feel ill? |
| 02:22.54 | cogwheel | ;) |
| 02:23.28 | WobWork | you know what? |
| 02:23.30 | WobWork | screw lunch |
| 02:23.38 | WobWork | I'm going to have breakfast for lunch |
| 02:23.50 | Neuro_Medivh | new build, eh? |
| 02:23.54 | WobWork | my favourite cafe does all day breakfast! =) |
| 02:25.21 | cogwheel | I want to make a "We got u a candy but we eated it" sign for halloween in case we run out ... (first time in our new neighborhood) |
| 02:25.29 | Seerah | rofl |
| 02:25.51 | Seerah | should have a jolly rancher stuck in the cat's fur |
| 02:25.54 | Seerah | or a sucker |
| 02:26.20 | cogwheel | hehe... i can see us smashing up a jolly rancher to rub on our cats' faces >< |
| 02:27.51 | Thunder_Child | poor freaking cat |
| 02:27.52 | Corrodias | wut |
| 02:27.55 | Corrodias | did i come in at a bad time? |
| 02:28.10 | Thunder_Child | Corrodias, like it's ever a good time |
| 02:29.03 | NightHawkTheSane | there was a really good cafe in the U district that got bought out and turned into a thai place >< |
| 02:29.29 | Seerah | NightHawkTheSane: bastards |
| 02:29.45 | Corrodias | well, thai has some good food |
| 02:30.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Corrodias: this is seattle. there are thai/pho/teriyaki places every three blocks. |
| 02:30.13 | Corrodias | ah. bummer. |
| 02:31.24 | Neuro_Medivh | NightHawkTheSane: But is there a good Mexican place? |
| 02:32.18 | NightHawkTheSane | ... i dont know. only good ones i know of are outside the city |
| 02:35.26 | cogwheel | we moved in near a really good mexican place... that's where i got my inspiration for the breakfast burritos ;) |
| 02:45.56 | Dewin | Why do I always see juicy tidbits of IRC that I want to reply to 20 minutes after they were said? >.> |
| 02:46.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Dewin: because you don't hover over irc like the rest of us. |
| 02:46.21 | Shirik | you can, Dewin |
| 02:46.31 | NightHawkTheSane | s/rest of us/me.../ |
| 02:46.38 | Dewin | Nah, I prefer to stop DPSing the horse after it's dead. |
| 02:50.59 | cogwheel | Dewin: was it about food? |
| 02:51.00 | cogwheel | ;) |
| 02:51.43 | NightHawkTheSane | ultimately, everything is about food. |
| 02:51.43 | cogwheel | or cat torture? :P |
| 02:52.36 | Corrodias | foolish. cats can catch you food. |
| 02:53.08 | WobWork | Dewin: That's never stopped any of us =P |
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| 02:53.45 | ccox | PTR and beta are down? |
| 02:53.58 | NightHawkTheSane | ccox: new build inc. |
| 02:54.14 | ccox | oh, good. |
| 02:54.27 | cogwheel | we have two cats. one is extraordinarily clumsy and rather fat. yet somehow she was the one always bringing home the dead creatures... |
| 02:54.36 | ccox | (in a sarcastic, but hopefully less laggy way) |
| 02:54.57 | ccox | nobody expects the fat one to be quick |
| 02:55.01 | NightHawkTheSane | cogwheel: clumsy & fat is a clever disguise for the vermin *nod* |
| 02:55.22 | ccox | I had the same thing with my old cats -- the fat one looked like he was asleep, until he sprang and the birds were lunch |
| 02:55.33 | cogwheel | including a 3-4 foot long gopher snake |
| 02:55.46 | ccox | the skinny one couldn't get within 20 feet of the birds |
| 02:58.09 | Neuro_Medivh | You know what I say, "Never trust birds" |
| 02:59.45 | NightHawkTheSane | ... yeah, okay.. I'm pretty sure andromeda -completely- jumped the shark when they used the line 'we are not the droids you're looking for' |
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| 03:00.14 | Sixen | h,, |
| 03:00.16 | Sixen | Duman |
| 03:04.43 | Corrodias | i wonder, do you need a WoW account to use the Diablo 3 forum on forums.worldofwarcraft.com? |
| 03:04.53 | kd3 | ya |
| 03:05.07 | Sixen | It's the WoW Forums, heh. |
| 03:05.09 | kd3 | there should be one on the bnet forums too |
| 03:05.11 | Corrodias | huh. wow. that seems bad. |
| 03:05.12 | Sixen | There's a Bnet D3 forum though. |
| 03:05.31 | Sixen | Only requires a Battle.net Account and Diablo2 CDKey. |
| 03:05.32 | Sixen | http://www.battle.net/forums/board.aspx?ForumName=d3-general |
| 03:05.45 | Corrodias | all my accounts expired years ago. but thanks for the info |
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| 03:10.45 | Sixen | =/ |
| 03:14.28 | Sixen | Oh hell! |
| 03:14.39 | kd3 | any word on the patch? |
| 03:14.41 | Sixen | According to recent post by Blizzard mod Tigole, certain ultra-rare pets are becoming bound to an entire account rather than soulbound! |
| 03:14.48 | Sixen | Murky, Murloc Costume, etc. |
| 03:15.17 | Jamash | hawt |
| 03:15.20 | WobWork | oh hell? |
| 03:15.25 | WobWork | is this not a good thing? |
| 03:16.04 | Sixen | That was an "Oh hell yes!" |
| 03:17.17 | selckin | tigole also posted that having mages conjure more then 2 water at the same time would ruin the economy |
| 03:17.48 | WobWork | Hm. |
| 03:17.51 | WobWork | I should spec frost |
| 03:17.56 | NightHawkTheSane | Sixen: basically blizz event & collecters edition pets. |
| 03:17.59 | WobWork | Then summon my elemental at the beginning of raids |
| 03:18.07 | Sixen | Yeah, i've been saving my Murky all this time |
| 03:18.08 | WobWork | and claim I crit "summon water" |
| 03:18.08 | Sixen | And Murloc costume |
| 03:18.09 | Sixen | =) |
| 03:18.17 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: hah. |
| 03:18.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Sixen: yeah, and, presumably, the blizzcon bear mount |
| 03:19.18 | Sixen | Yup, probablu. |
| 03:19.24 | Sixen | The Tyrael as well. |
| 03:19.57 | Ferrante | selckin, link? |
| 03:20.11 | Neuro_Medivh | we get a build # yet? |
| 03:20.15 | selckin | Ferrante: many moons ago |
| 03:20.16 | Ferrante | don't htink so |
| 03:20.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Sixen: that was probably covered when i said 'pets' |
| 03:20.27 | WobWork | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10043165397&sid=2000 |
| 03:20.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Neuro_Medivh: unlikely, or ScytheBlade1 would have reported so |
| 03:21.18 | Sixen | Only server-specific though? |
| 03:21.29 | Sixen | With that change, you'll be able to learn Murky on any character on the same realm with the character that currently has Murky. |
| 03:21.33 | Sixen | So technically it's not account bound |
| 03:21.37 | Sixen | It's just not soulbound |
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| 03:22.00 | Neuro_Medivh | can you only get one murky currently? |
| 03:22.06 | Jamash | yep, just one |
| 03:22.18 | Neuro_Medivh | I thought it was like the CE pets, you got one on each toon |
| 03:22.23 | Jamash | nope |
| 03:23.11 | Sixen | It should be. |
| 03:23.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Sixen: well, even other 'account bound' items are still realm-bound |
| 03:23.42 | Jamash | Technically it is account bound, you can transfer servers and take your pet with you |
| 03:24.06 | Sixen | Jamash: So it'd be account bound for a $25 fee per server. |
| 03:24.07 | WobWork | "I've got you now, my pretty, and your little dog, too!" |
| 03:24.19 | Jamash | Sixen: Yes |
| 03:24.25 | WobWork | Sixen: With free transfer included =) |
| 03:24.25 | Sixen | No fun. |
| 03:24.34 | Sixen | Free transer? |
| 03:24.41 | Jamash | better than only 1 character ever which is how it is now |
| 03:24.46 | Sixen | True, ;/ |
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| 03:25.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Sixen: as i said, there's no way to transfer -anything- between realms aside of server transfer, so to whine about that is a little lame :p |
| 03:25.15 | WobWork | I don't see why they need to make it server bound |
| 03:25.18 | Sixen | I'm not really whining I guess. |
| 03:25.19 | WobWork | Why not account wide? |
| 03:25.27 | Sixen | Right. |
| 03:25.37 | Sixen | They should've said Server bound or something. |
| 03:25.41 | Sixen | Account Bound is not what it is. |
| 03:25.49 | WobWork | although, it'd be hard to track the code to account I guess |
| 03:25.52 | WobWork | or not |
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| 03:25.54 | NightHawkTheSane | it's not server bound. |
| 03:25.54 | WobWork | I dunno =P |
| 03:25.54 | Sixen | Why? |
| 03:25.59 | NightHawkTheSane | as noted, you CAN server transfer |
| 03:26.02 | Sixen | In order to get it, you have to login to your account and put the code in. |
| 03:26.09 | Sixen | NHTS: $25 fee. |
| 03:26.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Sixen: that's beside the point |
| 03:26.49 | WobWork | Sixen: yeah, but how do they determine the link? |
| 03:26.49 | selckin | you just enter the code on the other server |
| 03:26.49 | selckin | :\ |
| 03:26.49 | WobWork | isn't it just a code? |
| 03:26.49 | NightHawkTheSane | it is just a code, and they HAVE to store it somewhere linked to your account |
| 03:26.49 | Sixen | Wobwork: Right, it's a code. You go to the websitefor it on wow.com and you input the key cod.e |
| 03:26.53 | WobWork | After the first claim I guess |
| 03:26.55 | Sixen | Then you get a code to turn it in on your character. |
| 03:26.56 | NightHawkTheSane | otherwise any number of accounts could activate it |
| 03:27.06 | Sixen | The code should be re-usable. |
| 03:27.12 | WobWork | So why not account wide? |
| 03:27.16 | Sixen | Right. |
| 03:27.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Sixen: thats probably far more of a infrastructure change that simply making the rewarded items account bound, which they already implemented. |
| 03:27.42 | Tem | this site is awesome: http://wordsplosion.com/ |
| 03:27.59 | NightHawkTheSane | i'd be almost certain it's a matter of how their storing the link between an activated code an an account. |
| 03:28.01 | Jamash | they could choose to make card items or blizzcon items account-wide, but I think they have some reason of their own not to |
| 03:28.18 | Sixen | Why? |
| 03:28.23 | Jamash | I don't know |
| 03:28.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Tem: /cry |
| 03:28.43 | Tem | Sixen, MORE MONEY |
| 03:28.47 | Sixen | QQ. |
| 03:28.54 | Tem | Also, all blizzcon items will be account bound |
| 03:29.00 | Tem | that's exactly what his post says |
| 03:29.29 | Sixen | Tem, they're serverbound technically. |
| 03:29.33 | Sixen | CE Pets are account bound. |
| 03:29.46 | Tem | eh |
| 03:29.54 | Jamash | also you can't trade them across factions |
| 03:29.58 | Tem | sorry if I don't care |
| 03:30.00 | NightHawkTheSane | er.. no, they're not actually server bound. |
| 03:30.08 | Sixen | Explain that, NHTS. |
| 03:30.14 | NightHawkTheSane | i did, already. server transfers. |
| 03:30.16 | Sixen | You can't use them on another server from your character on one server. |
| 03:30.17 | Sixen | No |
| 03:30.21 | Sixen | That's not a viable solution |
| 03:30.25 | NightHawkTheSane | i didn't say it was |
| 03:30.26 | Jamash | you can even transfer them from one account to another if you own both |
| 03:30.32 | NightHawkTheSane | it's mere proof that the item is NOT bound to a server. |
| 03:30.47 | NightHawkTheSane | if it was, and you transferred, the item wouldn't go with you |
| 03:31.01 | NightHawkTheSane | therefore, it -cannot- be server bound. |
| 03:31.19 | Ferrante | the only thing you can't do is send it to the other faction if you have chars on another faction |
| 03:32.07 | Ferrante | it costs money to move a char though to a different realm or account |
| 03:32.17 | Ferrante | but i guess it's important enough to some people to do that |
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| 03:32.35 | NightHawkTheSane | well, like i said, thats aside the point i was making. |
| 03:32.48 | Ferrante | seems like you could get CE pets onto non-CE accounts this way |
| 03:33.20 | NightHawkTheSane | how so? |
| 03:33.31 | NightHawkTheSane | ah, you mean account transfer. |
| 03:33.34 | Ferrante | yes |
| 03:33.52 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, that's entirely possible. wonder if anyone noted that |
| 03:34.05 | Ferrante | NightHawkTheSane, i made a post and tigole quoted me and said 'sure' |
| 03:34.06 | cogwheel | http://foodieforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=60781 |
| 03:34.31 | Ferrante | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10043165397&sid=2000&pageNo=2#31 |
| 03:35.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Ferrante: i guess that's something they're okay with. |
| 03:35.41 | NightHawkTheSane | and, honestly, I don't see a terribly huge issue with it. |
| 03:36.11 | NightHawkTheSane | although, i bet you'll see a spike in price for ebayed characters "now: includes actual CE pet item!" |
| 03:36.22 | Tem | do we have servers yet? |
| 03:36.29 | NightHawkTheSane | ~lart Tem |
| 03:36.29 | purl | takes out a cattle prod and gives Tem a good jolt |
| 03:36.34 | Ferrante | Tem, just... |
| 03:36.35 | Tem | =D |
| 03:36.44 | Ferrante | hibernate. |
| 03:37.34 | Duman | sbo did you get the new patch yet? |
| 03:38.03 | servers | do I have me yet? |
| 03:38.40 | smcn | i see what you did there |
| 03:38.47 | NightHawkTheSane | I wish i didn't |
| 03:38.48 | ccox | they estimated midnight PST as the uptime, so it might be a while |
| 03:39.04 | Tem | I know |
| 03:39.27 | Tem | I'm just dicking around |
| 03:39.27 | Tem | last time the servers were down, I was on live doing some pvp |
| 03:39.27 | Sixen | New patch isn't up, Spidey. |
| 03:39.29 | Sixen | Or is it? |
| 03:39.34 | smcn | i'm listening to u2 in the meantime |
| 03:39.34 | Tem | and every time we got out of a BG, I tabbed over to IRC and asked |
| 03:39.48 | Tem | which turned into about an hour of me asking every 10minutes |
| 03:39.49 | Duman | :P |
| 03:39.57 | Tem | hillarity ensued |
| 03:40.02 | Duman | I dunno, i was asking sbo if he ninja'd it yet or not |
| 03:40.22 | Sixen | Oh, oh oh oh... Yeah... =P |
| 03:40.27 | Sixen | I gotcha ,;) |
| 03:41.43 | Duman | christ almighty |
| 03:41.46 | Duman | someone broke cfengine |
| 03:41.55 | Duman | and it mailbombed root@ from all 15k machines |
| 03:42.14 | ScytheBlade1 | GOT IT |
| 03:42.17 | ScytheBlade1 | 8962 |
| 03:42.18 | Tem | zomg |
| 03:42.25 | Duman | uh |
| 03:42.29 | Duman | oh |
| 03:42.31 | Duman | haha |
| 03:42.34 | ScytheBlade1 | 26 --> 62 |
| 03:42.38 | ScytheBlade1 | I wtf'd for a moment myself |
| 03:42.38 | Duman | 8929 -> 8962 |
| 03:42.41 | Duman | hehe yeah |
| 03:42.50 | Duman | they did that on purpose |
| 03:42.52 | Duman | ;-) |
| 03:42.57 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, sadly probably not. :p |
| 03:43.01 | ScytheBlade1 | It's up |
| 03:43.03 | Duman | I know, I kid |
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| 03:43.18 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:43.20 | Duman | oh, only 100M? hmm |
| 03:43.33 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: enUS osx, pretty please? :) |
| 03:43.44 | Duman | no, because he hates you! |
| 03:43.49 | ScytheBlade1 | NightHawkTheSane: don't have that yet |
| 03:43.51 | NightHawkTheSane | :( |
| 03:44.00 | smcn | good timing! |
| 03:44.19 | Ferrante | bigger |
| 03:44.19 | Tem|Food | this is gonna be a quick patch |
| 03:44.22 | Tem|Food | I can feel it |
| 03:44.30 | Duman | Length: 109,356,096 (104M) [application/octet-stream] |
| 03:45.28 | Ferrante | 1d392ee37d5250277d8d53e42c71349a <-- confirm please |
| 03:45.34 | Ferrante | md5 |
| 03:45.39 | Neuro_Medivh | 26 to 62? |
| 03:45.56 | ScytheBlade1 | 1d392ee37d5250277d8d53e42c71349a WoW-3.0.2.8926-to-3.0.2.8962-enUS-patch.exe |
| 03:46.00 | ScytheBlade1 | From my server ;P |
| 03:46.25 | Neuro_Medivh | ScytheBlade1 is made almost entirely of win |
| 03:46.34 | Duman | s/almost// |
| 03:47.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Let me pull up the docs to see if I can grab the OSX torrent |
| 03:47.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Maldivia: 8962 |
| 03:48.13 | kd3 | that's beta... the PTR patch up too? |
| 03:48.34 | Ferrante | magnet:?xt=urn:btih:NUZTNFWIBVEZALBCDK5CFTGQUGNYXU5E |
| 03:48.40 | Ferrante | ^^^ beta patch |
| 03:48.43 | Ferrante | DHT |
| 03:48.45 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't have beta around no |
| 03:49.11 | Duman | ? |
| 03:49.15 | ScytheBlade1 | NightHawkTheSane: if you can open MPQs, check out the -PPC-OSX file in the OSX dir |
| 03:49.15 | Duman | s/beta/ptr/ ? |
| 03:49.29 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:49.29 | Duman | oh, for osx |
| 03:49.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah PTR |
| 03:49.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Sorry |
| 03:49.33 | Duman | heh |
| 03:49.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Zerging down RoS atm ;P |
| 03:51.21 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: indeed i can, thank you :) |
| 03:52.36 | ccox | 1.0 Meg, is that all? |
| 03:52.45 | ScytheBlade1 | That's the downloader |
| 03:53.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Within that (MPQ) is a complete blizzard download app for OSX, and within that is a .torrent for this patch |
| 03:53.23 | NightHawkTheSane | although, i can't seem to locate a torrent in it.. >.> |
| 03:53.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Sec |
| 03:53.30 | ccox | that much I know |
| 03:53.43 | ccox | (having resorted to bittorrent for downloads more than a few times) |
| 03:54.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Let me kill RoS |
| 03:54.04 | ScytheBlade1 | P2/P3 |
| 03:54.18 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, no worries :) |
| 03:54.20 | smcn | ScytheBlade1: request denied |
| 03:54.27 | ScytheBlade1 | ? |
| 03:54.28 | NightHawkTheSane | servers wont be up for 2 more hours, at least, anyway |
| 03:54.43 | smcn | [20:53:59] <ScytheBlade1> Let me kill RoS <- nope sorry |
| 03:54.46 | smcn | ;P |
| 03:54.50 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:55.01 | Ferrante | NightHawkTheSane, no d8:announce in it? |
| 03:55.33 | Duman | I'm moderaetly suprised mmo-champ doesn't have teh new patch # and whatnot up yet |
| 03:55.50 | ScytheBlade1 | That is all |
| 03:55.52 | Neuro_Medivh | they aren't as good as ScytheBlade1 |
| 03:57.08 | Neuro_Medivh | so, question.. when wotlk comes out, do you think they'll release new pve servers, and if so, will they be 75% DKs? |
| 03:57.36 | Neuro_Medivh | I have this image of EVERY SINGLE PERSON making a DK once they hit 55 on the new server |
| 03:58.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Let me get you the OSX torrent real quick |
| 03:58.29 | ScytheBlade1 | ....... |
| 03:58.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Neuro_Medivh: nah. same reason there arn't 75% pallies and shaman on horde/alliance. |
| 03:58.34 | ScytheBlade1 | 2% wipe |
| 03:59.06 | Neuro_Medivh | except, there are, on those servers that opened right as BC went live |
| 03:59.23 | Neuro_Medivh | 2% on which phase, ScytheBlade1? |
| 03:59.33 | Syzgyn | Ouch |
| 03:59.42 | ScytheBlade1 | 3 |
| 04:01.08 | ScytheBlade1 | OSX torrent up |
| 04:01.09 | Ferrante | hmm |
| 04:01.21 | ScytheBlade1 | http://files.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Patches/Beta/OSX/8926-8926-OSX.torrent |
| 04:01.22 | |Jelly| | http://shalkis.blogspot.com/2007/08/flying-in-northrend.html <-- I like this idea |
| 04:02.13 | Syzgyn | SBO: Where do you host your server from, if not locally |
| 04:02.15 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: thanks |
| 04:02.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Syzgyn: VPS colo in Atlanta, linode.com |
| 04:03.44 | Syzgyn | I'll have to remember that if I ever need my server to do anything remotely useful |
| 04:04.38 | Duman | ok, all patched up |
| 04:04.41 | ScytheBlade1 | $20 monthly, gives me 200GB of transfer a month |
| 04:04.42 | kd3 | gah. wth is taking the patch so long? |
| 04:04.43 | Duman | now to wait 3 hours |
| 04:04.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Public IP, the works |
| 04:05.12 | Syzgyn | You obviously get nice speed out of it :) |
| 04:05.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Very |
| 04:05.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Sec RoS |
| 04:05.28 | Neuro_Medivh | lol, kd3, that anxious to do the diff? |
| 04:05.29 | Tem | so um |
| 04:05.40 | Tem | I've got my patch installed |
| 04:05.48 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 04:05.49 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm.. |
| 04:05.55 | Neuro_Medivh | same here |
| 04:05.56 | kd3 | that and tear the patch apart to see what goodies we got |
| 04:06.07 | Syzgyn | Mine right now is $10/month for "unlimited" space and bandwidth, but its pretty slow |
| 04:06.09 | NightHawkTheSane | "Tracker returned a 4xx message" for this torrent >.> |
| 04:06.37 | Neuro_Medivh | I like how you put "unlimited" in quotes |
| 04:06.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Syzgyn: http://www.gnax.net/mrtg/ |
| 04:06.50 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ datacenter in question |
| 04:06.55 | Tem | Failed to validate game version. :( |
| 04:06.59 | ScytheBlade1 | It is "well connected" |
| 04:07.09 | Neuro_Medivh | omg, Tem, your version is haxxored! |
| 04:07.09 | Syzgyn | ~fail Tem |
| 04:07.10 | purl | Tem, you Fail! |
| 04:07.27 | Neuro_Medivh | you better format c: before you get your megahurtz stolen! |
| 04:07.32 | Syzgyn | http://phpwebhosting.com/ "unlimited" |
| 04:08.01 | Neuro_Medivh | yes, but let's be honest, web hosting companies have their own definition of "unlimited" |
| 04:08.07 | kd3 | crap |
| 04:08.08 | kd3 | crash on load |
| 04:08.27 | Syzgyn | Oh, I know |
| 04:08.29 | Neuro_Medivh | "Wait, you're pushing 20 terrabytes a month? We didn't REALLY mean unlimited!" |
| 04:08.56 | Syzgyn | But its $10 and they dont bother me about anything |
| 04:09.03 | kd3 | emails going out in a few minutes. anyone not on my list want a copy? |
| 04:09.26 | NightHawkTheSane | kd3: actually, yeah. |
| 04:09.27 | Syzgyn | I even got 2 months behind when I got a new credit card, no email, no nothing, continual service |
| 04:09.36 | Tem | Duman, you know mmo-champ guy idles in here, right? |
| 04:09.47 | Syzgyn | mmo-champ guy? lol |
| 04:09.57 | Tem | well I didn't really want to ping him |
| 04:10.00 | Ferrante | aka Bibi |
| 04:10.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Bibi |
| 04:10.39 | jaxdahl | he knows a build is coming |
| 04:10.52 | jaxdahl | and is likely pulling the patch apart now |
| 04:10.55 | kd3 | cripes. 640k diff |
| 04:11.18 | Syzgyn | Geeze |
| 04:11.23 | kd3 | anyone else? |
| 04:11.29 | Tem | tick toc, brah |
| 04:11.31 | Tem | emails me |
| 04:11.47 | kd3 | do I have your email already? |
| 04:11.50 | Tem | you do |
| 04:11.55 | Tem | you sent me the last set |
| 04:13.14 | Duman | heh |
| 04:13.14 | kd3 | last call... anyone else? |
| 04:14.08 | |Jelly| | sure. why not? |
| 04:14.22 | kd3 | msg me an email |
| 04:14.25 | kd3 | emails out |
| 04:14.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Syzgyn: http://www.atlantanap.com/carriers.php <-- it's *very* well connected |
| 04:14.43 | Duman | N 4529 Sep 18 k_d ( 1.6M) 3.0.2.8926-8962 |
| 04:14.45 | Duman | woot |
| 04:14.48 | ScytheBlade1 | That's what I was looking for earlier |
| 04:15.40 | Tem | heh |
| 04:15.45 | Tem | "+ fubar = true" |
| 04:16.08 | ScytheBlade1 | yay, moved to bcc now |
| 04:16.27 | kd3 | got enough bitching after the last one went out |
| 04:16.35 | Syzgyn | I honestly have no idea what I'm looking at |
| 04:16.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I didn't much care, just noticed |
| 04:17.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Syzgyn: those are all of the different companies that datacenter peers with, aka, has direct access to their networks to |
| 04:17.59 | Tem | ha! |
| 04:18.02 | Syzgyn | Ok |
| 04:18.05 | Tem | "self.bling" |
| 04:18.36 | jaxdahl | what tier is the datacenter? |
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| 04:18.54 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.gnax.net/mrtg/ |
| 04:18.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Pretty high up there |
| 04:20.33 | Duman | weak |
| 04:20.34 | Duman | ;) |
| 04:20.40 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 04:20.46 | ScytheBlade1 | sec |
| 04:20.52 | ScytheBlade1 | More RoS :/ |
| 04:21.15 | jaxdahl | do you even know what i mean by tier? |
| 04:21.39 | ScytheBlade1 | yes, and as it's peered with level3 and quest, it's "up there" |
| 04:21.41 | Duman | looks like they are connected to teir 1 providers |
| 04:21.53 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 04:21.54 | Duman | L3, qwest, sprint, savvis |
| 04:22.20 | Duman | well, most of those are actualyl tier 1 |
| 04:22.43 | Duman | they have a nice traffic balance |
| 04:22.56 | Duman | I wonder if they are using something like the netvmg traffic shaper |
| 04:23.05 | Duman | err, internap.. whoever owns it now |
| 04:24.40 | jaxdahl | that's not the kind of tier i was talking about |
| 04:24.49 | jaxdahl | datacenters go from tier 1 to 4, 4 being the best |
| 04:24.54 | Duman | lol, wut |
| 04:25.04 | Duman | I only know about network provider tiers |
| 04:25.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Then I have no idea what you're talking about, no |
| 04:25.11 | jaxdahl | yea, not talking about carrier tiers |
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| 04:26.54 | jaxdahl | http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/D/data_center_tiers.html |
| 04:30.02 | Syzgyn | What this latest patch number? |
| 04:30.08 | kd3 | 8962 |
| 04:30.11 | Syzgyn | ty |
| 04:34.10 | Tem | uh, what? |
| 04:34.11 | Tem | CR_DODGE_TOOLTIP = "Dodge Rating of %d adds %.2f%% Dodge|n|cff888888(Before diminishing returns)|r"; |
| 04:34.29 | Tem | there are diminishing returns on dodge rating? |
| 04:34.50 | Tem | CR_PARRY_TOOLTIP = "Parry Rating of %d adds %.2f%% Parry|n|cff888888(Before diminishing returns)|r"; |
| 04:34.53 | Tem | and parry |
| 04:35.04 | Tem | and defense |
| 04:35.04 | kd3 | apparently there are now |
| 04:35.11 | ScytheBlade1 | okay, time to read -- WHOA |
| 04:35.57 | Thunder_Child | ty kd3 |
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| 04:37.14 | jaxdahl | yes tem, that has already been determined there are diminishing returns |
| 04:38.13 | Tem | ooh |
| 04:38.14 | Tem | TRACK_ACHIEVEMENT_TOOLTIP = "Check to track this achievement."; |
| 04:38.19 | jaxdahl | cool |
| 04:38.41 | Tem | hah |
| 04:38.43 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:40.25 | cogwheel | So at Longs Drugs there was a rack of "wellness" pamphlets for various ailments. One was called "Women and Migranes". First thought to cross my mind was "Cause and Effect" |
| 04:41.02 | ScytheBlade1 | ~cogwheel++ |
| 04:41.46 | NightHawkTheSane | ~cogwheel++ |
| 04:41.47 | kd3 | blah. annoying that a good portion of the diff is a result of them renaming files |
| 04:41.48 | NightHawkTheSane | indeed |
| 04:42.18 | Tem | meh |
| 04:42.27 | Tem | the interesting part is always the globalstrings anyway |
| 04:43.54 | ScytheBlade1 | +ARENA_OFF_SEASON_TEXT = "Arena Season %d has come to an end!|n|nDuring the week after the close of the arena season all titles and rewards will be awarded.|n|nBe sure to check with arena organizers for information about the start of Season %d!"; -- Displays on PVP panel, not Arena Masters |
| 04:43.59 | ScytheBlade1 | like that |
| 04:44.13 | ScytheBlade1 | +BINDING_NAME_TOGGLEINSCRIPTION = "Toggle Spell Glyphs"; |
| 04:44.20 | ScytheBlade1 | And it's about time we got a name for that binding |
| 04:45.31 | Adys | [07:37:43] <+Tem> TRACK_ACHIEVEMENT_TOOLTIP = "Check to track this achievement."; |
| 04:45.40 | Adys | Wasnt there a lot of code in the quest tracker to track achievements? |
| 04:45.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 04:45.55 | ScytheBlade1 | We just got notice of it now it seems |
| 04:46.01 | ScytheBlade1 | +SPELL_FAILED_CUSTOM_ERROR_46 = "Nothing left to discover."; <-- lol |
| 04:46.09 | Tem | I saw that one and wondered |
| 04:46.16 | Tem | maybe alchemy? |
| 04:46.19 | Adys | Er |
| 04:46.19 | ScytheBlade1 | yup |
| 04:46.29 | ScytheBlade1 | +UNITNAME_SUMMON_TITLE11 = "%s's Lightwell"; -- For Lightwell! duh |
| 04:46.37 | ScytheBlade1 | And I kinda had to laugh at that (comment) |
| 04:46.42 | Adys | lol |
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| 04:49.10 | cogwheel | so i think everyone should use soandso-- instead of ~fail soandso then we could get a bot to keep a running score... |
| 04:49.31 | ScytheBlade1 | <!-- No, I don't think this name is long enough. Yes, I would name it something longer if I could. Hrm. I probably should have put DDL in there for a touch of hungarian.--> |
| 04:50.18 | ScytheBlade1 | haha @ the change |
| 04:50.25 | ScytheBlade1 | line 15601 |
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| 04:52.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Summon Grand Ice Mammoth - Summons and dismisses a rideable Grand Ice Mammoth. This is a very fast mount that can carry 3 passengers. |
| 04:53.07 | Neuro_Medivh | does it have turrets? Or hard-points? |
| 04:53.16 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got no idea, but it's a mount spell |
| 04:53.27 | Adys | No, but it can run Crysis |
| 04:54.22 | ScytheBlade1 | It's really too bad that python lacks an mpqlib :P |
| 04:54.25 | Syzgyn | cogwheel: Agreed |
| 04:54.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Then I could automate torrent download and extraction... |
| 04:54.37 | Neuro_Medivh | so write one |
| 04:54.38 | Syzgyn | or, have ~fail soandso automatically do it |
| 04:54.43 | Adys | ScytheBlade1: I was working on one at some point |
| 04:55.01 | Syzgyn | I dont know the first thing about writing IRC bots :\ |
| 04:55.41 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: there's no reason it ha to be 100% in python, is there? ;) |
| 04:56.14 | ScytheBlade1 | ... which reminds me that there is a linux based MPQ reader.. |
| 04:58.02 | NightHawkTheSane | bleh. still 404 error for that osx torrent |
| 04:58.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Er? |
| 04:59.00 | NightHawkTheSane | er, from the tracker |
| 04:59.02 | NightHawkTheSane | not from your site |
| 04:59.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh |
| 04:59.05 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:59.06 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3 (n=kd3@wikia/kaydeethree) |
| 04:59.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I was worried for a moment there |
| 04:59.13 | NightHawkTheSane | sorry :) |
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| 04:59.56 | Tem | login server up |
| 05:00.02 | Tem | accepting the new version |
| 05:00.10 | Tem | no servers |
| 05:00.23 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3 (n=kd3@wikia/kaydeethree) |
| 05:00.27 | Adys | accepting any version atm |
| 05:00.32 | Adys | Im able to login with a 8780 client |
| 05:00.33 | Adys | :p |
| 05:00.35 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ |
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| 05:00.53 | Tem | weak |
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| 05:01.05 | Syzgyn | self:RegisterEvent("INSPECT_ACHIEVEMENT_READY"); Blizz answered my request <3 |
| 05:01.26 | Adys | when does that fire? |
| 05:01.38 | Tem | it's similar to NOTIFY_INSPECT |
| 05:01.41 | Syzgyn | yea |
| 05:01.43 | Tem | but for achievements |
| 05:01.43 | Adys | oh |
| 05:01.50 | Adys | you can inspect achievements? |
| 05:01.50 | smcn | woot, protodrake mounts |
| 05:01.55 | Syzgyn | Right now theres no way to tell when the server is ready to start giving the right info |
| 05:01.57 | Syzgyn | Yep :) |
| 05:02.01 | Adys | doh achievement compare |
| 05:02.03 | Adys | forgot >< |
| 05:02.41 | Syzgyn | :P |
| 05:03.57 | NightHawkTheSane | i think i need to wash my kitchen towel |
| 05:03.58 | NightHawkTheSane | s |
| 05:04.31 | Syzgyn | Holy crap, Leading the Cavalry - Obtain 75 mounts. |
| 05:04.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 05:04.40 | Sargeras | 75? |
| 05:04.41 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm totally going to abuse that :P |
| 05:04.50 | Sargeras | there are that many in the game? o_0 |
| 05:04.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Easily |
| 05:04.54 | Syzgyn | How many mounts are there in game currently? |
| 05:05.09 | Syzgyn | Oh wow |
| 05:05.14 | Adys | over nine th.. er, around 200 |
| 05:05.19 | Syzgyn | lots of 'complete this category' achievements |
| 05:05.20 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:05.22 | Syzgyn | with mount rewards |
| 05:05.25 | Syzgyn | sexy |
| 05:06.04 | Tem | hmm |
| 05:06.14 | Tem | How are you going to abuse that, ScytheBlade1 ? |
| 05:06.22 | Tekkub | WTB gitSafe that actually runs |
| 05:06.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Er? |
| 05:06.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh |
| 05:06.50 | ScytheBlade1 | By buy every single level 30, 60, and 70/70 epic mount :O |
| 05:06.54 | ScytheBlade1 | s/buy/buying/ |
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| 05:07.14 | selckin | open ah, put in runecloth |
| 05:07.16 | selckin | click buyout |
| 05:07.18 | selckin | profit |
| 05:07.19 | Tem | ScytheBlade1, that's going to get expensive |
| 05:07.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Not that expensive |
| 05:07.33 | Adys | lvl 30 mounts are like 8g |
| 05:07.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Plus faction discounts |
| 05:08.13 | Syzgyn | The flying mounts will get expensive |
| 05:08.18 | Syzgyn | 100/200g per |
| 05:08.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Luckily I don't have to get those first |
| 05:08.36 | Syzgyn | True, true |
| 05:08.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Plus I'm a gnome |
| 05:08.52 | selckin | probably can't get 75 without |
| 05:08.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I have access to mechanostriders and up |
| 05:08.55 | ScytheBlade1 | aka everything |
| 05:09.13 | Syzgyn | Heh |
| 05:09.50 | Kajas | Is there a trick to using the SetNormal, Pushed, Disabled, and HighlightTexture methods? I have pastyed the lua file if anyone has time to look it over for me: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/96321 |
| 05:09.56 | kd3 | meh, one of the first things I did on beta after copying over today was to buy every mount |
| 05:10.05 | kd3 | went from ~7kg to ~3kg |
| 05:10.14 | ScytheBlade1 | That's nothing then |
| 05:10.15 | Syzgyn | Haha |
| 05:10.27 | kd3 | couldn't get the nw mounts since I fell to my death on getting close to the island, though |
| 05:10.39 | kd3 | but that's another cool ~400g or so |
| 05:11.35 | Syzgyn | Arent the netherdrakes 200g each? |
| 05:11.42 | kd3 | w/e |
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| 05:13.11 | Adys | aye sylz |
| 05:21.07 | cogwheel | there we go http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?image=causeeffectyl5.jpg |
| 05:21.51 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd like to say something |
| 05:21.59 | ScytheBlade1 | But no small number of people with the +o are women |
| 05:22.23 | cogwheel | i know... i loves me my womin ;) |
| 05:22.32 | Sargeras | that |
| 05:22.34 | Sargeras | is awesome |
| 05:22.40 | *** kick/#WoWUIDev [cogwheel!n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn (Cairenn) |
| 05:22.40 | Sargeras | and going on the guild forum |
| 05:22.43 | *** kick/#WoWUIDev [ScytheBlade1!n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn (Cairenn) |
| 05:22.45 | *** kick/#WoWUIDev [Sargeras!n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn (Cairenn) |
| 05:22.46 | *** join/#wowuidev Sargeras (n=Guest@cpe-98-148-167-228.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 05:22.46 | Sargeras | noooooo Cairenn! |
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| 05:22.51 | Sargeras | noooooo Cairenn! |
| 05:22.53 | Sargeras | I love you |
| 05:22.55 | ScytheBlade1 | That's totally the kind of thing that is going to hit digg |
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| 05:23.07 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v cogwheel] by ChanServ |
| 05:23.11 | Sargeras | you missed the disclaimer on the back that states that that rule doesnt apply to Canadians |
| 05:23.15 | ScytheBlade1 | 01:22 < ScytheBlade1> That's totally the kind of thing that is going to hit digg |
| 05:23.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Go cog |
| 05:23.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Make it happen |
| 05:23.39 | cogwheel | ps: guys, cooking = happy wimmins |
| 05:23.42 | Cairenn | you guys all laughed, hence the kick :=p |
| 05:24.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: that and I more or less asked for it |
| 05:24.02 | kd3 | glad I didn't say anything in the channel |
| 05:24.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I mean if you didn't then I would have been rather disappointed |
| 05:24.10 | *** kick/#WoWUIDev [kd3!n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn (Cairenn) |
| 05:24.16 | cogwheel | lol |
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| 05:24.25 | kd3 | >.> |
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| 05:24.29 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 05:24.35 | Cairenn | and you just admitted to having said something, just not in channel :-p |
| 05:24.49 | cogwheel | sorry... not hip enough to use digg :P |
| 05:24.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Me either |
| 05:25.32 | Adys | Cairenn never kicks me, I'm *that* good. |
| 05:25.47 | Cairenn | is that a request dear? |
| 05:25.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | i totally forget, kd3, are you the other atlantan in the channel :o |
| 05:26.13 | kd3 | ya |
| 05:26.19 | Adys | You are going to have to guess. It's just like cutting the red or the blue wire. |
| 05:26.30 | kd3 | still WTFing at the gas price jump over the weekend |
| 05:26.37 | kd3 | 3.85->4.30 in ~18 hours |
| 05:26.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | are you going to AWA this year? |
| 05:26.43 | kd3 | probably |
| 05:26.47 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: all that I'll say is that when you initially said that, I laughed a bit. When I saw the picture it made perfect sense as to why you thought that |
| 05:26.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | we should totally meet up and have awkward silence |
| 05:27.03 | kd3 | rofl |
| 05:27.05 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:27.20 | Syzgyn | Oh hey, AWA is coming up isnt it |
| 05:27.23 | kd3 | oh hell, it's this weekend |
| 05:27.29 | Tem | oh wow |
| 05:27.33 | Syzgyn | Bahaa |
| 05:27.44 | Syzgyn | Yeaaaa no desire to go |
| 05:27.44 | Tem | looks like UA, VB and BA don't cost runes anymore |
| 05:28.01 | Tem | or maybe they do |
| 05:28.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: keep in mind that I was given frova to see if it helped my migraines (http://www.frova.com/) |
| 05:28.57 | NightHawkTheSane | UA/VB/BA? *blink* |
| 05:30.18 | Tem | Unbreakable Armor, Vampiric Blood, Bone Armor |
| 05:30.18 | NightHawkTheSane | heh "Armored to the Teeth -- tier 1 Fury so everyone can get it. Converts 400 armor into 1/2/3 Strength. Sir, I need you to drop the rogue leather and step away." |
| 05:30.22 | NightHawkTheSane | ah |
| 05:30.39 | NightHawkTheSane | it'd be nice if t he rune cost on those was dropped.. |
| 05:30.45 | Adys | [08:28:01] <ScytheBlade1> Cairenn: keep in mind that I was given frova to see if it helped my migraines (http://www.frova.com/) |
| 05:30.47 | Syzgyn | Bloodthirst (Tier 7) healing reduced from 1.5% of your max health to 0.6% of your max health. BOOOOO |
| 05:30.50 | Adys | I read that as Frost Nova =/ |
| 05:30.55 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:31.04 | Syzgyn | I liked healing 4k a fight :( |
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| 05:31.08 | Tekkub | I"m the only one here that can laugh at migrainey womens because everyone already knows I don't count in that dept |
| 05:31.12 | Cairenn | ScytheBlade1: I know :-p |
| 05:31.39 | Tekkub | well and clad |
| 05:31.49 | Tekkub | but clad's too stuck up to laugh at it |
| 05:33.15 | WobWork | He's also asleep |
| 05:33.31 | Tekkub | nah he just puts that up when he doesn't want to talk to us |
| 05:33.49 | Sixen | hm? |
| 05:34.06 | Sixen | Anyone else have trouble DLing the patch from Blizz for Beta? |
| 05:34.13 | Adys | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10043086036&sid=2000 <- rofl |
| 05:34.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Sixen: indeed. |
| 05:34.31 | Tekkub | new patch today? |
| 05:34.35 | Sixen | Yeah |
| 05:34.38 | ScytheBlade1 | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 05:34.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub: indeed |
| 05:34.56 | Tekkub | bugger mcfuck, the launcher supposed to start it then, cause login don't |
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| 05:35.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Adys: i'm simultaneously glad, and sad. |
| 05:35.06 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v Cide] by ChanServ |
| 05:35.08 | jaxdahl | can anyone grep the MPQ files for furbolg data? |
| 05:35.17 | Adys | i think if they did it its because they want to include a new item |
| 05:35.20 | Tem | erm |
| 05:35.20 | Adys | that does just that |
| 05:35.22 | Tem | this can't be right |
| 05:35.23 | Tekkub | THEY BROKE MY BEAR STICK? |
| 05:35.30 | Sixen | Sbo, how large was the patch? |
| 05:35.33 | Adys | 212 mb |
| 05:35.33 | ScytheBlade1 | ~100MB |
| 05:35.35 | Sixen | And what was the date it said it was releSed? |
| 05:35.42 | Tem | Will of the Necropolis 3/3: Reduces the cooldown of your Anti-Magic Shell by 15 |
| 05:35.43 | Adys | 3 hours ago |
| 05:35.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Today? |
| 05:35.52 | Tem | the cooldown is only 20s, and it has a 5s duration |
| 05:35.56 | Sixen | It usually says like 2 days ago. |
| 05:35.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Adys: maybe, but more likely reply #4 is correct.. they did not want to encourage not completing a quest to keep an item it gave you |
| 05:35.57 | Tem | that means perma AMS |
| 05:35.57 | Adys | http://coblitz.codeen.org/http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/temporary/WoW-3.0.2.8926-to-3.0.2.8962-enGB-patch.exe |
| 05:36.01 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10043316202&sid=1 |
| 05:36.02 | Adys | http://coblitz.codeen.org/http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/temporary/WoW-3.0.2.8926-to-3.0.2.8962-enUS-patch.exe |
| 05:36.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Er? |
| 05:36.05 | kd3 | more PTR updates |
| 05:36.06 | Adys | enGB/enUS |
| 05:36.19 | Adys | NightHawkTheSane: Both? :) |
| 05:36.19 | WobWork | damn you anti-furbolg-stick people =( |
| 05:36.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Adys: both hm? |
| 05:36.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Tem: sure if you have tehe RP for it :p |
| 05:36.44 | Sixen | The Public Test Realms for all regions will be brought down briefly beginning at 1:00PM PDT on Thursday, September 18, to complete some hardware upgrades as we continue to prepare for the upcoming expansion Wrath of the Lich King. The Public Test Realms will be available for play again at approximately 2:30PM PDT. |
| 05:36.45 | Sixen | Amazing~ |
| 05:36.47 | Adys | Both wanting to add an item that transforms you into a furbolg |
| 05:36.50 | Tem | NightHawkTheSane, there's a glyph to make it free |
| 05:36.55 | Adys | and not wanting to do that |
| 05:36.55 | Adys | etc |
| 05:37.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Tem: :o well shit. |
| 05:37.07 | Tekkub | how can they break my bear stick |
| 05:37.23 | Tekkub | I have no more reason to play |
| 05:37.24 | Sargeras | I cant even get the patch downloader on either cloent |
| 05:37.26 | Sargeras | client* |
| 05:37.27 | Tem | NightHawkTheSane, that glyph is unconfirmed, but it was datamined |
| 05:37.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Adys: could be. *shrug* |
| 05:37.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Tem: given the nature of WotN it SEEMS like they might change that ;) |
| 05:38.02 | kd3 | rofl. beta general has exploded over the furbolg nerf |
| 05:38.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Good |
| 05:38.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Adys: at the moment, i'm far more inclined to believe it was due to bringing it inline with other similar quest items, and not encouraging the non-completion of a quest. *shrug* i do HOPE that we get an item like that, though, that horde can get ;) |
| 05:38.34 | ScytheBlade1 | That's quite possibly the only "nerf" that agitates me |
| 05:38.44 | Syzgyn | furblog nerf? |
| 05:38.48 | NightHawkTheSane | feh, it's an appropriate and consistent change. it sucks, but deal with it. |
| 05:39.10 | ScytheBlade1 | *or* |
| 05:39.34 | Tekkub | I'm sorry, there's no reason to change things like the furblog stick |
| 05:39.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Jump on the QQ boat! |
| 05:39.34 | Syzgyn | Oh no |
| 05:39.34 | Syzgyn | ! |
| 05:39.34 | Tekkub | the ol Blade's Edge bubble, sure, people were blocking mailboxes |
| 05:39.34 | Syzgyn | :( |
| 05:39.43 | Tekkub | but what harm did the furblogs do? |
| 05:39.47 | NightHawkTheSane | sure there is, it brings it in line with (afaik) every other shape-changing quest item |
| 05:40.10 | Sargeras | Adys: is that legit? |
| 05:40.15 | NightHawkTheSane | i imagine it's less to do with harm than it is pure consistency |
| 05:40.15 | Adys | Vargoth nerf! Vargoth nerf! |
| 05:40.22 | Adys | what is what, Sargeras ? |
| 05:40.30 | Sargeras | those patch links |
| 05:40.32 | kd3 | oh, I should check if I still have vargoth |
| 05:40.37 | Adys | yeah fully legit |
| 05:40.37 | kd3 | and if he still works |
| 05:40.41 | Tekkub | they need more stupid fun items then :P |
| 05:40.46 | Adys | they've been posted on the beta forums too btw |
| 05:40.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub: now I'll CERTAINLY agree with that ;) |
| 05:40.56 | Sargeras | I just loaded both clients and didnt get any patcher exe |
| 05:41.02 | Tekkub | if you're gonna nerf our stick, give us more pointless shit that IS NOT on those retarded loot cards |
| 05:41.19 | Adys | I agree Tekkub it's sad if its gonna be tcg |
| 05:41.26 | Tekkub | shit like the tonks |
| 05:41.26 | WobWork | that's terrible if it is |
| 05:41.44 | WobWork | fuck off at "buying extra content" style stuff |
| 05:41.52 | Tekkub | hell, make em profession-made items if you gotta |
| 05:42.15 | Tekkub | people like stupid fun crap |
| 05:42.19 | Tekkub | minigames and such |
| 05:42.28 | Tem | oh thank god |
| 05:42.30 | Tem | GC posted |
| 05:42.31 | Tem | "Will of the Necropolis is not supposed to be that good. It's 1 / 2 / 3 sec IIRC. " |
| 05:42.46 | Tekkub | proof: one dancing tauren can start an entire line of dancing tauren |
| 05:43.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Tem: you had me thinking said post was on the furbolg form quest thread :( |
| 05:43.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Tem: ahh, whew. :) |
| 05:43.29 | jaxdahl | what did gc post? |
| 05:43.43 | NightHawkTheSane | read? |
| 05:43.52 | Sargeras | I hoped they fixed the glitch where beta players can now play on PTR |
| 05:44.28 | cogwheel | ScytheBlade1: changed my mind http://digg.com/comedy/Medical_breakthrough_2 |
| 05:44.35 | cogwheel | :P |
| 05:44.35 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: win |
| 05:44.45 | Sargeras | HAHAHA |
| 05:44.46 | ScytheBlade1 | If I can remember my password |
| 05:44.51 | ScytheBlade1 | I shall digg it up |
| 05:45.06 | ScytheBlade1 | I feel dirty participating with such a site BUT THAT IS THE PRICE I PAY |
| 05:45.18 | NightHawkTheSane | cogwheel: oh, damn. |
| 05:45.22 | NightHawkTheSane | ~cogwheel++ |
| 05:47.37 | Tekkub | anyone got a torrent for the new patch? |
| 05:48.13 | Adys | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10043246168&sid=2000 |
| 05:48.23 | Adys | ... |
| 05:49.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: good to know you still love us ;) |
| 05:49.15 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 "Improved Spell Reflection (Tier 4) no longer reduces the cooldown of Spell Reflection." |
| 05:49.26 | Cairenn | ;-) |
| 05:49.35 | Adys | no Cairenn :( |
| 05:49.42 | Sixen | Hai Cairenn |
| 05:49.42 | Adys | 3-character smileys, no no no |
| 05:49.51 | Cairenn | whyfor? |
| 05:50.34 | Tekkub | everyone knows true IRCers are lazy, this is why smileys came to be |
| 05:50.46 | Tekkub | therefor they must be the fewest number of chars |
| 05:51.06 | Tekkub | 3-char smileys are for GUI babies that click a button to insert a smiley |
| 05:51.18 | Adys | (I wasnt sure what else to answer to that) |
| 05:51.35 | jaxdahl | +(:-] <-- pope |
| 05:51.39 | Cairenn | as far as it goes, though, I only use it for the wink, and not always then |
| 05:51.41 | Sixen | ohai cog. |
| 05:51.47 | Sixen | I noticed you made yourname.info. |
| 05:52.03 | cogwheel | aye |
| 05:52.06 | Adys | Cairenn: ^_´ |
| 05:52.10 | Tekkub | the only acceptable 3-char smileys are "o.O" and it's derivitives, because "oO" doesn't look right |
| 05:52.16 | cogwheel | and ohai :) |
| 05:52.17 | jaxdahl | ^________^ |
| 05:52.32 | Adys | `_´ |
| 05:52.41 | cogwheel | <(O.O<) |
| 05:53.06 | Neuro_Medivh | wow... rune tap went from suck to good |
| 05:53.06 | Adys | (>;-).O)> |
| 05:53.11 | Thunder_Child | <(**<) i prefer that kirby |
| 05:53.20 | Adys | cute, Thunder_Child |
| 05:53.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I use ^_^ |
| 05:53.26 | cogwheel | :)8|-< |
| 05:53.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Usually like this: ^_________________________________________________^ |
| 05:53.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Which has an entirely different effect than just three chars |
| 05:53.42 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, dont lie, you are never that happy |
| 05:53.49 | Neuro_Medivh | I use 8=====), but I can't tell you how I use it |
| 05:53.52 | cogwheel | s/8|/|8/ |
| 05:53.53 | Adys | ^â¦â¦â¦â¦^ |
| 05:54.06 | Adys | that one is for halloween |
| 05:54.08 | Cide | does the smiley's happiness level increase linearly or exponentially with the number of underscores? |
| 05:54.17 | ScytheBlade1 | both |
| 05:54.19 | Thunder_Child | exponentially |
| 05:54.24 | Cide | both? |
| 05:54.27 | Adys | Cide: Underscorely is the term you're looking for |
| 05:54.28 | ScytheBlade1 | both. |
| 05:54.35 | Cide | Adys: clearly. |
| 05:54.40 | Cide | ScytheBlade1: oh. /bow to master |
| 05:54.42 | cogwheel | /\ ________________________ /\ |
| 05:54.51 | Cide | vampiresmiley? |
| 05:55.00 | Thunder_Child | or flat cat head + ears |
| 05:55.12 | cogwheel | the world may never know |
| 05:55.14 | Cide | no. |
| 05:55.17 | Adys | ââââ^ |
| 05:55.31 | Cide | squirell? |
| 05:55.40 | Cide | er |
| 05:55.41 | Cide | squirrel |
| 05:55.48 | Adys | Bat eating flying worms into the distance |
| 05:55.51 | Adys | but close |
| 05:55.57 | Cide | almost. |
| 05:56.07 | Tekkub | (ï¾Ðï¾â¡ï¾Ðï¾) |
| 05:56.55 | Adys | (ŬÅ) |
| 05:57.15 | Cide | Tem: "Will of the Necropolis is not supposed to be that good. It's 1 / 2 / 3 sec IIRC. " |
| 05:57.16 | Tekkub | (=^･ｪ･^=) |
| 05:57.32 | Tem | Cide, I'm way ahead of you |
| 05:57.40 | Tem | alread posted that same quote in here |
| 05:57.43 | Cide | oh |
| 05:57.56 | Cide | I read it a few minutes ago but didn't think of posting it |
| 05:57.58 | Cide | but fine! |
| 05:58.13 | Thunder_Child | "I see you over there, Boyd. With your dwarven Death Knight... Lich King cabana boy." |
| 05:58.16 | Tekkub | ã(^_^ã)(ã^_^)ã |
| 05:58.20 | Cide | hey now |
| 05:58.32 | Cide | let's not get into smileys that look like regexps |
| 05:59.17 | Adys | lol |
| 05:59.35 | Tekkub | regexes are the nerd secret language |
| 05:59.47 | Tekkub | SHIT! |
| 05:59.53 | Tekkub | that's what I need for BC |
| 05:59.56 | Adys | now the world knows |
| 05:59.58 | Tekkub | an xkcd shirt |
| 06:00.15 | Adys | ***PERL!*** |
| 06:00.27 | ScytheBlade1 | I need an addon that scans general for common lines like "first aid" and "trainer" and auto-responds to people in whispers |
| 06:00.28 | Tem | Tekkub, good call. |
| 06:00.40 | Tekkub | I might get the hubby one too |
| 06:00.44 | Tekkub | he's a total shirt whore |
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| 06:01.41 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10043086049&sid=2000 |
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| 06:01.46 | ScytheBlade1 | That looks like a new and exciting feature |
| 06:03.51 | Tekkub | <--- not swayed by pretty graphics |
| 06:04.02 | Tekkub | mainly because... |
| 06:04.13 | Tekkub | <--- not willing to blow money on expensive vid cards |
| 06:04.26 | Neuro_Medivh | so what DO you blow money on? |
| 06:04.33 | NightHawkTheSane | hookers. and blow. |
| 06:04.44 | Neuro_Medivh | bah, cocaine is so 87 |
| 06:04.45 | Tekkub | not much actually |
| 06:04.52 | Neuro_Medivh | it's all about crystal meth now |
| 06:05.06 | Tekkub | hence why I had $400 saved to put towards BlizzCon and the hubby had... $35 |
| 06:06.20 | Neuro_Medivh | well, that's understandable, I mean, the hubby probably had to spend his money on strippers... those 1 dollar bills add up |
| 06:07.04 | nevcairiel | Hmm, i got a diff for a new patch in my email, but i dont get a patch download on login |
| 06:07.47 | Tekkub | Neuro_Medivh, no, just bar + being social bullshit every single weekend |
| 06:08.12 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, being social is lame. |
| 06:08.21 | Tekkub | and expensive |
| 06:14.20 | Tem | would someone please ping me when we have servers? |
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| 06:15.27 | Tekkub | no |
| 06:15.45 | Guest70866 | sigh |
| 06:16.09 | Tekkub | Kiff! Stop sighing all the time! |
| 06:17.12 | Tekkub | ah there's nothing better than having a warm furry purring headrest |
| 06:17.23 | Tekkub | except when she tries to lick me |
| 06:17.27 | Tekkub | that's annoying |
| 06:19.05 | Tekkub | and she aparently REALLY likes BBQ beef jerky |
| 06:21.26 | Neuro_Medivh | who doesn't? |
| 06:21.44 | cogwheel | Tekkub: what kind? |
| 06:22.05 | Tekkub | Jack Links KC Masterpiece |
| 06:22.30 | Neuro_Medivh | didn't someone link some beef jerky ice cream earlier? |
| 06:22.47 | WobWork | that was bacon ice cream |
| 06:22.55 | Neuro_Medivh | oh, that's right |
| 06:23.23 | cogwheel | tillamook > jack's links |
| 06:23.32 | Neuro_Medivh | well, either one sounds funky |
| 06:23.35 | cogwheel | http://tcsjerky.com/ |
| 06:23.44 | WobWork | anyone here used tortoisehg? |
| 06:24.58 | Tekkub | http://gist.github.com/11386 |
| 06:25.00 | Tekkub | WTF? |
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| 06:25.48 | Neuro_Medivh | obviously, it's fubar |
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| 06:28.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub: i saw that, was intrigued. |
| 06:28.39 | Duman | hmm |
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| 06:29.26 | NightHawkTheSane | wonder if its some debug code that got committed/left in accidentally |
| 06:29.41 | NightHawkTheSane | or if it does something important >< |
| 06:30.35 | kd3 | YAY! http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10043236194&sid=2000&pageNo=7 |
| 06:30.52 | NightHawkTheSane | lame |
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| 06:32.15 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 06:32.20 | nevcairiel | yes its lame |
| 06:32.24 | zenzio | NightHawkTheSane: what did I miss? |
| 06:32.34 | nevcairiel | i finished the quest in my early wow days |
| 06:32.38 | nevcairiel | and no way to get the rod back |
| 06:32.56 | Wobin | yeah, I did it once |
| 06:33.02 | Wobin | but then never completed it on any other toon |
| 06:33.08 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: i just think it's lame that it was a solid design decision and they backed off so readily because of a few whiny babies |
| 06:33.12 | Adys | Same nevcairiel |
| 06:33.15 | Adys | funny thing is |
| 06:33.21 | Adys | back then, the rod had 5 charges |
| 06:33.25 | Wobin | A solid design decision? |
| 06:33.26 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 06:33.29 | Adys | and I had used all 5 charges, needed an item to get it back |
| 06:33.32 | nevcairiel | thats why i just finished it |
| 06:33.33 | Adys | s/item/gm/ |
| 06:33.42 | Cide | kd3: should change your signature to "Die or live trying" |
| 06:33.58 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: it brings the item inline with similar quest items, that are all (sub)zone limited. |
| 06:34.03 | Cide | much more emo, much more awesome |
| 06:34.05 | kd3 | har |
| 06:34.29 | Adys | "Even better, the reward could be a monocle that is a /use costume! When you use it, you turn into a rich, stuffy, finely dressed version of yourself, a look-a-like to the Monopoly mascot. And you need one of those diamond studded canes. Yes." |
| 06:34.32 | Adys | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10043276141&sid=2000 |
| 06:34.39 | Adys | I.. want that |
| 06:34.45 | nevcairiel | the item should just vanish when you cancel the quest |
| 06:34.55 | nevcairiel | anyone who wants it haunted with a grey quest in your log! |
| 06:35.20 | Adys | agreed nevcairiel hehe |
| 06:35.25 | bleeter | kd3: hahahahaha |
| 06:35.43 | nevcairiel | so now anyone tell me why i dont get a patch download from the beta servers |
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| 06:36.06 | Fisker- | so just a 100 raidbosses where you put a portal on top of the corpse and then loot the boss |
| 06:37.25 | Neuro_Medivh | are you actually logging in? |
| 06:37.40 | clad|moving | I logged in and there are no realms up |
| 06:37.43 | clad|moving | but not getting a patch |
| 06:37.45 | nevcairiel | well up to a empty server list |
| 06:37.52 | clad|moving | which means it hasn't been pushed yet, methinks :P |
| 06:38.19 | clad|moving | at least for eu beta :P |
| 06:38.19 | NightHawkTheSane | clad|moving: that's crazy talk |
| 06:38.39 | Neuro_Medivh | yeah, probably hasn't been pushed. I only have it because of ScytheBlade1 and his mega mojo |
| 06:38.41 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1 posted a link for the enUS torrents |
| 06:38.55 | Fisker- | Some of those mount achievements should give a 310% speed mount |
| 06:38.56 | Fisker- | kthx :( |
| 06:38.58 | ScytheBlade1 | hmm? |
| 06:40.38 | Neuro_Medivh | lol, this is interesting.. since 1492, guess which year was the most active year for Piracy? |
| 06:40.51 | nevcairiel | 2008? |
| 06:40.54 | kd3 | ^ |
| 06:41.01 | Neuro_Medivh | 2007, but 2008 is on track to beat it |
| 06:41.04 | NightHawkTheSane | thank you, spore. |
| 06:41.06 | Neuro_Medivh | that blows my mine |
| 06:41.12 | Neuro_Medivh | s/mine/mind |
| 06:41.30 | Neuro_Medivh | s/mine/mind/ |
| 06:41.35 | Neuro_Medivh | bah |
| 06:41.40 | NightHawkTheSane | heh |
| 06:42.07 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 30s MD cooldown?! |
| 06:42.08 | Neuro_Medivh | btw, don't forget, friday is Talk Like A Pirate Day |
| 06:42.23 | batrick | man JC is retardedly expensive to level :( |
| 06:42.27 | Fisker- | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/10043236194-furbolgs-nerfed--canceling-my-account.html <-i hate tigole |
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| 06:42.39 | End | yes, it is |
| 06:42.47 | batrick | ya... blizzard doesn't even have interns |
| 06:42.58 | batrick | at least nafaik |
| 06:43.14 | bleeter | must be a witch |
| 06:43.17 | Guest34781 | damn it! what's up with xchat |
| 06:43.19 | Neuro_Medivh | well, if they did, they'd definately have to be drunk a lot! |
| 06:43.19 | Thunder_Child | they have internships |
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| 06:44.03 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: lies! |
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| 06:44.21 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, unlike usuallym not this time |
| 06:44.31 | haste | clad|moving: I can |
| 06:44.41 | Thunder_Child | s/usuallym/usual,/ |
| 06:45.30 | Fisker- | haste |
| 06:45.33 | Fisker- | i'll end you |
| 06:46.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Fisker- you're such a tease. |
| 06:47.16 | foxlit | Hm, I wonder |
| 06:47.36 | foxlit | Could it happen that PLAYER_LOGOUT fires before PLAYER_LOGIN in some bizzaro-world scenario? |
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| 06:48.09 | Wobin | NightHawkTheSane: is Fisker offering 'happy endings' again? |
| 06:48.20 | Wobin | That's not teasing |
| 06:48.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: but.. but.. he said.. |
| 06:48.50 | Fisker- | Above all the end must not be ruined |
| 06:48.54 | Sixen | So yeah, i'm tired... afk trolling my dreams. |
| 06:49.13 | purl | moos at Shirik, courtesy of esamynn |
| 06:49.22 | steev | 10 minutes! |
| 06:49.29 | Wobin | wow, drive by mooing |
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| 06:50.10 | NightHawkTheSane | hot. |
| 06:50.19 | Tem | . . . |
| 06:50.28 | Tem | the unnerfed the furbolg thing |
| 06:50.30 | Tem | they* |
| 06:50.37 | NightHawkTheSane | huh, 'walter' from sg-1 was in the sliders pilot |
| 06:50.43 | ScytheBlade1 | And blamed drunk interns :P |
| 06:50.55 | NightHawkTheSane | (hey, if i was a bizzard intern, i'd have done it) |
| 06:50.56 | Fisker- | Walter is awesome |
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| 06:58.06 | Shirik|zZz | night |
| 06:58.46 | Fisker- | night |
| 06:58.50 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 06:59.24 | Fisker- | why so gently patting? |
| 06:59.51 | zenzio | you know Shirik, he only builds weaksauce bots ;) |
| 07:01.28 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 07:01.36 | Fisker- | didn't even get it to ban me on "Why so *" |
| 07:08.01 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane, doing what? |
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| 07:10.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: huh? |
| 07:10.24 | Thunder_Child | "NightHawkTheSane: huh, 'walter' from sg-1 was in the sliders pilot" |
| 07:10.46 | NightHawkTheSane | oh. just a bit part as quinn's boss at the computer store he works (worked) at. |
| 07:10.54 | Wobin | finding his inner animal? |
| 07:11.06 | Wobin | . o O ("Slliiiide") |
| 07:11.10 | Thunder_Child | i wonder how i missed that |
| 07:11.27 | NightHawkTheSane | he's got like 30s of air time, its easy to miss |
| 07:11.37 | Thunder_Child | you didnt |
| 07:11.50 | NightHawkTheSane | true.. |
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| 07:20.23 | Adys | Woot |
| 07:20.28 | Adys | I got a supercomputer ! |
| 07:20.30 | Adys | SET coresDetected "65536" |
| 07:20.37 | Adys | thats what it detected |
| 07:21.22 | Jamash | bitchin' |
| 07:21.37 | starlon | lol |
| 07:22.13 | starlon | I wonder if Blizz will make wotlk run on all 4 of my cores instead of just 2. |
| 07:22.17 | ccox|sleep | BTW - downloader is now working |
| 07:27.30 | bleeter | Adys: haha |
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| 07:44.47 | Tekkub | once again.. I just don't get today's cat & girl |
| 07:44.53 | Neuro_Medivh | hmm, "Glyph of Death Strike - Your Death Strike's damage and healing increase by 2% for every 5 runic power you currently have." Does anyone know if this Glyph drains the RP? |
| 07:45.20 | Neuro_Medivh | cause if not, that's slightly OP |
| 07:45.59 | Tem | hardly |
| 07:46.06 | Tem | +40% of crap is still crap |
| 07:46.18 | Tem | Death strike tickles at best |
| 07:47.01 | Tem | Also, the flourish change is depressing |
| 07:47.13 | Tem | I'm tempted to roll a shaman for my healer |
| 07:47.37 | nevcairiel | huh what happend to flourish |
| 07:47.53 | Tekkub | no tem... 40% of crap is cr |
| 07:48.02 | Neuro_Medivh | Tem, supposedly DS dmg was upped... |
| 07:48.03 | Tem | name change to a lousy name + 1/4 the healing |
| 07:48.14 | nevcairiel | wtf |
| 07:48.22 | Tem | yeah... |
| 07:48.23 | nevcairiel | 1k on lvl 80? |
| 07:48.25 | nevcairiel | thats like unusable |
| 07:48.36 | Dewin | hmm |
| 07:48.44 | Dewin | the PTarrrgh is still down, whee |
| 07:48.44 | Tem | priests cried because they had to cast 5 CoHs to get the same effect |
| 07:48.54 | nevcairiel | it was totally OP before, i admit that |
| 07:48.55 | nevcairiel | but now? |
| 07:49.00 | Adys | [10:47:22] <Tekkub> no tem... 40% of crap is cr |
| 07:49.03 | Adys | I tend to disagree |
| 07:49.21 | nevcairiel | 1000 over 7 seconds |
| 07:49.22 | Adys | 40% of crap is something like c¡ |
| 07:49.24 | Tekkub | everyone know CR is crap |
| 07:49.29 | nevcairiel | a priest can throw 5 CoHs in that time |
| 07:49.34 | nevcairiel | and CoH is even smart with selecting target |
| 07:49.37 | Tekkub | LF is where it's all at |
| 07:49.37 | nevcairiel | flourish isnt |
| 07:49.50 | Tem | flourish supposedly uses the same AI as CoH |
| 07:49.53 | Tekkub | I liked flourish :( |
| 07:49.59 | nevcairiel | i didnt notice that before, heh |
| 07:50.19 | nevcairiel | but still, now we get over 7 seconds what a priest can throw with one isntant |
| 07:50.24 | nevcairiel | thats totally lame |
| 07:50.25 | Tem | either way, 1/4 the healing is bleh |
| 07:50.44 | Tem | I already can't raid heal at all because poeple will just overwrite my hots |
| 07:50.56 | Tem | so I get overheal and they get credit for a heal that I actually beat them to |
| 07:51.26 | Tem | now our one aoe healing ability is just so... blarg |
| 07:51.35 | nevcairiel | totally worthless |
| 07:51.36 | Tem | GRR why no servers yet |
| 07:51.59 | Adys | Tem: because they aren't up yet |
| 07:52.01 | nevcairiel | 7 seconds hot is 50% coeff |
| 07:52.05 | Adys | *badum-pssh* |
| 07:52.19 | Tem | nevcairiel, old system or new system? |
| 07:52.30 | nevcairiel | old, not sure how coeffs work on new =P |
| 07:52.34 | Tem | x2 |
| 07:53.08 | Tem | so at 80, with 2k spell power, that's a 3k heal |
| 07:53.12 | nevcairiel | i have about 2500 heal now, so even if i get 50% on flourish, its 2500 over 7 seconds |
| 07:53.19 | Tekkub | "Prayer of Fortitude now buffs the whole " |
| 07:53.24 | Tekkub | hot diggity fuck me daddy |
| 07:53.31 | Tekkub | I was waiting for that to happen |
| 07:53.38 | Tekkub | Cork rewrite time! |
| 07:53.42 | nevcairiel | same for GotW |
| 07:53.48 | Tekkub | *whole raid |
| 07:53.48 | nevcairiel | nice |
| 07:54.31 | nevcairiel | but back to QQing about flourish, a priest on 70 can already do that 2500 heal with *2* CoH, thats a total of 3 seconds GCD without any haste |
| 07:54.46 | nevcairiel | i dont even want to look at the lvl 70 rank of flourish |
| 07:55.29 | nevcairiel | my flourish on 80 healed about 6k over the 7 seconds, most of that ended up in overheal anyway |
| 07:55.31 | nevcairiel | like all hots do |
| 07:55.36 | nevcairiel | so why nerf it <.< |
| 07:56.19 | nevcairiel | CoH is also 21% base mana, flourish is 35% |
| 07:56.22 | nevcairiel | i mean, wtf |
| 07:56.28 | Neuro_Medivh | because they didn't want it abused |
| 07:56.31 | nevcairiel | (ok we get tree bonus on that too, but huh) |
| 07:57.00 | Neuro_Medivh | Nev, if it was good and truly nerfed, ask for a mana % reduction |
| 07:57.01 | nevcairiel | Neuro_Medivh: i already admitted that it was too OP, but now its unusable |
| 07:57.05 | Tem | also, the change for spirit->healing spellpower is less than we got before |
| 07:57.23 | Tem | oh shit |
| 07:57.23 | Adys | Anyone got an api diff of this patch? |
| 07:57.24 | Tem | wait |
| 07:57.26 | Tem | no it's not |
| 07:57.27 | nevcairiel | Neuro_Medivh: the mana is fine, the thing is, we cant spam it, because its a HoT .. CoH/Chain Heal can just be spammed |
| 07:57.28 | Tem | it's better |
| 07:57.44 | Tem | 15% healing spellpower = 30% in current system |
| 07:57.48 | End | neat, malediction gives a spellpower bonus now |
| 07:58.34 | Tem | lua> .15*600 * 2 > .25*600 |
| 07:58.34 | lua_bot | Tem: true |
| 07:58.35 | nevcairiel | Neuro_Medivh: we need 7 seconds to apply 1000 heal (without healing bonus), a priest can instantly spam CoH for 750, in 7 seconds he gets 4*750 out |
| 07:58.38 | Tem | :) |
| 07:58.39 | Neuro_Medivh | understood, nev, but coh/chain heal also take casting time, whereas your doesn't. The true argument for druids to make is that hots don't stack across different people, whereas heals do |
| 07:58.49 | nevcairiel | Neuro_Medivh: CoH is instant |
| 07:59.00 | nevcairiel | priests can just spam it |
| 07:59.04 | Neuro_Medivh | hmm, well, I know chain heal isn't =) |
| 07:59.20 | Tem | chain heal is also WAY more efficient than CoH |
| 07:59.22 | Neuro_Medivh | but again, the focus point of your argument should be the stackability |
| 07:59.40 | Neuro_Medivh | because that's the big thing for blizz this xpac |
| 07:59.48 | Tem | lua> .15*600 |
| 07:59.49 | lua_bot | Tem: 90 |
| 07:59.49 | Neuro_Medivh | is getting away from the whole "stack 4-5 of one class" |
| 07:59.51 | nevcairiel | if they made flourish stack 3 times like lifebloom does |
| 07:59.59 | Tem | 90 spell power with 600 spirit |
| 08:00.12 | Tem | that's 180 +healing |
| 08:00.25 | nevcairiel | wasn it like 1.8 factor or so? |
| 08:00.29 | Tem | which is better than what we currently get |
| 08:00.42 | nevcairiel | i had 2480 healing and ended up with 13xx spell power |
| 08:01.07 | Tem | the 81 healing enchant because +41 spell power |
| 08:01.17 | Tem | s/because/became/ |
| 08:01.30 | Neuro_Medivh | hmm, is flourish the effect name from Wild Growth? |
| 08:01.39 | Tem | flourish is the old name |
| 08:01.42 | Tem | they just renamed it |
| 08:01.43 | Neuro_Medivh | oh, ok |
| 08:01.47 | Tem | we're not used to calling it taht |
| 08:02.15 | Tem | and druids are so pissed about losing 75% of the spell, that we're associating the new name with lameness |
| 08:02.22 | Tem | so, fuck wild growth. gimme flourish back |
| 08:02.28 | Neuro_Medivh | that's rather lackluster for a 51 pt talent, I admit |
| 08:02.34 | nevcairiel | its hardly worth the talent point now |
| 08:02.44 | nevcairiel | i can rather run 5 rolling lifeblooms and get more out of it |
| 08:02.53 | Neuro_Medivh | especially when you compare it to Spirit Link, which is all kinds of new hotness |
| 08:03.16 | nevcairiel | they wanted to give druids aoe healing ability |
| 08:03.19 | nevcairiel | and they did |
| 08:03.34 | nevcairiel | now they nerf our 51pt talent to be far inferior to all other aoe healing |
| 08:04.07 | Kalroth | QQ! |
| 08:04.24 | Kalroth | At least warrior tanks are still cool! |
| 08:04.26 | nevcairiel | 6k over 7s was the right amount of heal really. its about the same as you can get out of CoH in that time |
| 08:04.32 | nevcairiel | give it a 7s CD if you want |
| 08:04.35 | nevcairiel | but keep the high healing |
| 08:04.57 | nevcairiel | or make it that you can only have the HoT on 5 people |
| 08:04.58 | Tem | I was really looking forward to the 3.0 patch because I might be able to catch up with the other healers in sunwell |
| 08:05.03 | nevcairiel | if you cast it again, the others vanish |
| 08:05.15 | Tem | I went from far and away #1 healer in MH to bottom shit in sunwell |
| 08:05.21 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: oh wow... floushing got hit with the nerf bat... hard! |
| 08:05.35 | nevcairiel | we're QQing for 15 minutes already |
| 08:05.43 | Maldivia | yeah, I just read that |
| 08:05.45 | zenzio | floushing? |
| 08:05.48 | Neuro_Medivh | 6k sounds awfully high, especially before +healing and other bonuses kick in |
| 08:05.55 | nevcairiel | 6k was after healing |
| 08:05.57 | Maldivia | zenzio: flourish :9 |
| 08:05.58 | Tem | Neuro_Medivh, 6k was after +heal |
| 08:06.07 | nevcairiel | it was 4400 raw on lvl 80 before |
| 08:06.07 | Neuro_Medivh | what was the base then? |
| 08:06.08 | Adys | btw |
| 08:06.13 | nevcairiel | over 7 seconds |
| 08:06.15 | Tem | I'm more pissed that I stayed up til 3, when servers were supposed to be up at 2 and we still don't have servers |
| 08:06.21 | Adys | are heirloom items actual artifact items, or do they just have the same color? |
| 08:06.33 | Maldivia | they are the heirloom color |
| 08:06.33 | Tem | I should have gone to sleep at 10 and gotten up early |
| 08:06.34 | Neuro_Medivh | not the same color |
| 08:06.46 | Tem | very close, but not hte same |
| 08:06.47 | Neuro_Medivh | artifacts are orange, heirlooms are like beige I think |
| 08:06.56 | Adys | uuhhh |
| 08:06.58 | Tem | negative, Neuro_Medivh |
| 08:07.02 | Maldivia | legendary is orange, artifact is gold |
| 08:07.04 | Tem | artifacts are also gold |
| 08:07.06 | Adys | legendaries are orange |
| 08:07.07 | Adys | yeah |
| 08:07.28 | nevcairiel | I thought i saw a artifact in red |
| 08:07.29 | Neuro_Medivh | ah, I'm confusing legendary with artifacts |
| 08:07.44 | Tem | they are a seperate item quality, though |
| 08:07.50 | Neuro_Medivh | to the best of my knowledge, no real artifact has been introduced |
| 08:07.51 | Adys | nevcairiel: that was on blizzard's thingy website |
| 08:07.55 | Tem | so they're perfectly distinguishable from artifacts |
| 08:08.01 | Adys | Neuro_Medivh: The TRASHBRINGER?! |
| 08:08.03 | Tem | [Tigole's Trashbringer] |
| 08:08.06 | Adys | hehe |
| 08:08.10 | Neuro_Medivh | REAL artifacts |
| 08:08.18 | Neuro_Medivh | as in, something the players can get |
| 08:08.21 | Adys | How DARE you say the trashbringer is not real |
| 08:08.27 | Adys | yeah, they could get it ! |
| 08:08.27 | Tem | I had a trashbringer |
| 08:08.33 | Tem | and I have screenshots to prove it |
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| 08:08.41 | Neuro_Medivh | my wizard in EQ had an artifact... Scepter of Al'kabor |
| 08:08.49 | nevcairiel | somehow that flourish nerf just destroyed all my excitement for the 3.0 patch |
| 08:08.56 | Tem | nevcairiel, same here :( |
| 08:09.03 | Adys | That reminds me, why is the Scepter of the Shifting Sands white quality =/ |
| 08:09.09 | Tem | nevcairiel, Hey, we can put 11 points in Balance now! |
| 08:09.13 | Neuro_Medivh | so break out some numbers and convince them to up it again |
| 08:09.23 | nevcairiel | I was so looking forward to group healing on kalecgos and owning those stupid priests |
| 08:09.34 | nevcairiel | or on twins |
| 08:09.36 | Tem | hahaha my thoughts exactly |
| 08:09.45 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: agree - yeah, it might have been a bit too strong, bit not something that warrented a 75% nerf |
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| 08:09.57 | nevcairiel | I like my target-limit idea |
| 08:10.03 | Tem | I was barely outhealing our shadow priest a few night's ago |
| 08:10.06 | nevcairiel | if you spam it on 5 groups, you get insane values |
| 08:10.20 | nevcairiel | but if they limit it to only be active on 5 targets at a time |
| 08:10.22 | Tem | GG no aoe heal |
| 08:10.23 | nevcairiel | mm |
| 08:10.51 | Tem | nevcairiel, target limit is silly, just put a short cooldown |
| 08:10.54 | Tem | say... 5 seconds |
| 08:11.04 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 08:11.21 | nevcairiel | essentially its the same, except that you can switch targets in case of emergency |
| 08:11.30 | nevcairiel | btw that balance talent increases flourish duration too, right? |
| 08:11.36 | Tem | not anymore |
| 08:11.42 | nevcairiel | bah |
| 08:11.57 | Tem | still works on regrowth/rejuv/lifebloom |
| 08:12.11 | nevcairiel | its silly that they nerfed it to begin with |
| 08:12.14 | nevcairiel | 30% was more fun |
| 08:12.18 | Tem | oh, and they changed how it works to discourage putting only 1 point in it |
| 08:12.24 | nevcairiel | yeah seen that |
| 08:12.34 | nevcairiel | but i like the new balance talents all in all |
| 08:12.38 | nevcairiel | i can reach natures grace |
| 08:12.40 | Tem | they changed fridgid dreadplate the same way |
| 08:12.43 | nevcairiel | and spam 1.5s regrowth |
| 08:12.47 | nevcairiel | which crits for 8k with glyph |
| 08:12.49 | nevcairiel | = awesome |
| 08:12.51 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: you know what the future spells; time to spec feral and come tank for us! |
| 08:13.08 | Tem | except ferals will still be the worst tank in the game |
| 08:13.15 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: you mean hits for 8k with glyph!? |
| 08:13.26 | Tem | Maldivia, 8k crits. |
| 08:13.32 | nevcairiel | regrowth never hits |
| 08:13.34 | nevcairiel | it always crits |
| 08:13.35 | nevcairiel | :D |
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| 08:13.39 | Maldivia | they nerfed regrowth? |
| 08:13.40 | Tem | talented regrowth has a 60% crit rate |
| 08:13.45 | Tem | oh yeah |
| 08:13.48 | Tem | they did that too |
| 08:13.53 | Adys | AAARGH |
| 08:13.54 | Tem | increased mana cost |
| 08:14.01 | Tem | so yeah |
| 08:14.04 | nevcairiel | mm |
| 08:14.05 | Adys | WHYYYY did someone on the forums have to link that http://www.ferryhalim.com/orisinal/g3/bells.htm |
| 08:14.07 | Maldivia | I was critting with glyphed regrowth for 11k |
| 08:14.09 | Tem | I'm rerolling |
| 08:14.14 | Maldivia | or 12k, can't remember |
| 08:14.14 | Adys | I was all happy, had forgot all about it |
| 08:14.18 | nevcairiel | wtf Maldivia, how did you manage that |
| 08:14.19 | Adys | and they relinked :( |
| 08:14.47 | nevcairiel | i got 5k hits and 8k crits with glyph |
| 08:14.53 | nevcairiel | last build |
| 08:14.56 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: no idea, might have been a fluke - just noticed it on a patchwek fight, where were only 2 healers - both druids :9 |
| 08:15.02 | Maldivia | (naxx10 that is) |
| 08:15.45 | nevcairiel | meh i fail at calculating coeff for regrowth due to the heal+hot part |
| 08:15.58 | Maldivia | that was the only time I really payed attention to my regrowth numbers, but there might have been a bug or something that caused extra healing |
| 08:16.20 | nevcairiel | but regrowth was too cheap |
| 08:16.22 | nevcairiel | with imp tree |
| 08:16.23 | Maldivia | or perhaps it was with vampire |
| 08:16.28 | nevcairiel | which was removed too now <.< |
| 08:16.32 | nevcairiel | or rather changed |
| 08:16.46 | nevcairiel | more spell power is nice, but uh, on 70 i already swim in it |
| 08:18.39 | Maldivia | I liked the -mana cost better yeah :| |
| 08:19.35 | Tekkub | http://www.flickr.com/photos/26681170@N03/2866786303/ |
| 08:19.37 | Tekkub | lawl |
| 08:19.48 | nevcairiel | And i was just thinking the other day if i should maybe play my warrior as prot in xpac, but then all the new niceness of druid healing convinced me to stay |
| 08:19.54 | nevcairiel | we'll see about that i guess |
| 08:20.39 | nevcairiel | Tekkub gogo sell him TG |
| 08:20.51 | nevcairiel | its his guides anyway :D |
| 08:20.52 | Neuro_Medivh | Tekkub, Joana sent you that? |
| 08:21.04 | Kalroth | Tekkub: plz coed adon 4 me, tekky - u get liek 14$ orso |
| 08:21.28 | Tekkub | hell, I"ll convert his guides to tourguide |
| 08:21.32 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: well, they still have 2 months... |
| 08:21.44 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: they might come to their senses.... |
| 08:21.45 | Tekkub | but of course, I'll want a portion of his per-download fee |
| 08:21.48 | Neuro_Medivh | you should reply back, "Good news! I already wrote just such an addon, it's free on wowi!" |
| 08:22.04 | Tekkub | Neuro_Medivh, shhhhh |
| 08:22.11 | nevcairiel | Maldivia: i was saying that to our QQing ferals all the time .. i wonder how it'll play out |
| 08:23.23 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: hehe |
| 08:24.09 | nevcairiel | also prot warriors look better every patch, somehow |
| 08:24.21 | Maldivia | prots warriors are fantastic at the moment |
| 08:24.56 | nevcairiel | I can understand our ferals QQing about no new utility |
| 08:25.09 | nevcairiel | seeing what the prots all get |
| 08:25.22 | Maldivia | yeah, warriors got soo much |
| 08:25.30 | Tem | + feral abilities |
| 08:25.32 | Tem | so lol |
| 08:25.53 | Tem | Ferals get nerfed to sub-warrior armor levels and gain no new utility. |
| 08:25.55 | Maldivia | and what did we get... berserk... wee... |
| 08:26.09 | Maldivia | Tem: you mean sub-shaman armor level |
| 08:26.10 | Tem | Warriors gain a feral ability with a cheaper cost |
| 08:26.15 | Tekkub | TWO SCOOP EXECUTUS! TWO SCOOPS! |
| 08:26.42 | Maldivia | frenzied regen: 100 rage for 30%.... warrior version: 15 rage |
| 08:26.44 | Kalroth | Felols got 1 tree for two abilities, that's maybe why they're supposed to be a little lower than prot tanks |
| 08:27.01 | nevcairiel | A feral in sunwell gear will probably be the best avoidance tank ever, until we get the expansion, of course =P |
| 08:27.10 | Tem | being 75% of a warrior is not fun. |
| 08:27.13 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: I beg to differ! |
| 08:27.32 | Maldivia | avoidance tanks are anoying to heal though |
| 08:27.49 | Tem | healing avoidance tanks as a druid is kinda nice |
| 08:27.50 | nevcairiel | Or did they nerf the extra armor of the t6 feral sets? |
| 08:27.55 | Tem | yep |
| 08:27.57 | Kalroth | I can reach 64% pure avoidance (dodge + parry) and ~29% block |
| 08:28.09 | Kalroth | And I'm still lacking some Sunwell drops |
| 08:28.11 | steev | *sigh* google you are failing me |
| 08:28.34 | steev | so since google can't tell me - anyone know how to microwave a can of corn? (whole kernel) |
| 08:28.42 | steev | google seems to think i want to microwave popcorn |
| 08:28.45 | Tem | nevcairiel, all feral gear got changed |
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| 08:28.58 | Tem | beware, Alec |
| 08:28.59 | nevcairiel | mm |
| 08:29.00 | Tem | Alex |
| 08:29.02 | nevcairiel | thats rather new |
| 08:29.02 | Thunder_Child | steev, not inside the can |
| 08:29.03 | Maldivia | hah.... line added til the achievementUI.lia: fubar = true |
| 08:29.05 | Tem | we're QQing about restos |
| 08:29.05 | Kalroth | The fuckers removed +agi from prot gear too :( |
| 08:29.10 | nevcairiel | when i was leveling in my t6 gear it was still on |
| 08:29.18 | Tem | nevcairiel, it's new |
| 08:29.21 | Tem | check wowhead |
| 08:29.28 | nevcairiel | yeah i was on there now |
| 08:29.52 | steev | Thunder_Child: correct |
| 08:29.55 | Tem | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?itemset=676 |
| 08:30.06 | Kalroth | Resto druids are going to be the new .. well resto druids of healers. :p |
| 08:30.09 | nevcairiel | but after 3.0 sunwell will be damn easy anyway, if they really remove the sunwell radiance debuff |
| 08:30.23 | Kalroth | uhm |
| 08:30.32 | Neuro_Medivh | wow... look at some of the love hunters got |
| 08:30.34 | Kalroth | Radiance is -still- only on the 3 first bosses. |
| 08:30.50 | Neuro_Medivh | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:30.51 | Kalroth | So Sunwell will only be easier if you're stuck on Kalecgos :p |
| 08:30.59 | Kalroth | AlexanderYoshi: Perv! |
| 08:31.10 | nevcairiel | Kalroth: if i look at dodge stats for muru adds, that doesnt seem right |
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| 08:31.25 | Maldivia | Neuro_Medivh: yeah, seems very OP |
| 08:31.36 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: I'm pretty sure there's a thread on EJ about it, the adds are level 70 |
| 08:31.42 | Kalroth | and I get a fuckload of avoidance on them |
| 08:31.42 | Neuro_Medivh | lol, mage nerf in the ass: Arcane Blast changed. Each time you cast Arcane Blast, the damage is increased by 15% and mana cost is increased by 300%. (Previously 25% damage increase and 75% mana increase) |
| 08:31.59 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 08:32.03 | AlexanderYoshi | hahah |
| 08:32.10 | Maldivia | Neuro_Medivh: probably a type, should be 30% I'm sure |
| 08:32.15 | Kalroth | haha |
| 08:32.27 | Maldivia | and I'm nothing by typos at the moment |
| 08:32.35 | Neuro_Medivh | ok, 30% would be understandable.. if it's really 300%, then ell oh ell |
| 08:32.45 | nevcairiel | 300% doesnt make sense |
| 08:32.55 | Tem | well, it's base cost got reduced by roughly 1/5 |
| 08:33.01 | Tem | it used to be 45% base mana |
| 08:33.03 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 08:33.04 | Tem | it's 9% now |
| 08:33.12 | nevcairiel | maybe its true then |
| 08:33.34 | nevcairiel | of course Bibi forgot to mention that in the summary =P |
| 08:33.46 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: http://wowwebstats.com/jcv1jmohnguem?s=153338-186105&a=x2d5e#abilities <- the warrior got 20% parry, 35% dodge and 10% missed |
| 08:33.46 | Neuro_Medivh | wow, they put tactical mastery back in arms |
| 08:33.53 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: this is on M'uru |
| 08:34.19 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: so assuming Radiance is in effect, he'd have 50-60% dodge and 15-20% hit base :p |
| 08:34.58 | nevcairiel | i dunno |
| 08:35.13 | nevcairiel | we still wiped 2 hours on brutallus last night due to alot bad luck with hits on switches |
| 08:35.24 | Kalroth | Sure, Radiance is still there on the 3 first bosses |
| 08:35.29 | Kalroth | But it's removed after Felmyst |
| 08:35.54 | nevcairiel | brut hitting all 4 hits directly after a switch, or amybe combined with a stomp |
| 08:35.56 | nevcairiel | ouchy |
| 08:35.59 | Kalroth | And Brut will sometimes just rape you, 2 hours of wiping sounds like healers being slow on precasting (or too fast) |
| 08:36.22 | nevcairiel | we had some wipes that couldve been avoided |
| 08:36.27 | nevcairiel | but we really had alot of badluck |
| 08:36.29 | Kalroth | We got 1 priest and 1 paladin to start casting a spell ~2 seconds before the next tank taunts |
| 08:36.40 | Kalroth | *other tank* |
| 08:36.44 | nevcairiel | one wipe on felmyst where he did corrosion for 8k and a 14k melee swing in like .2 seconds |
| 08:37.28 | Kalroth | haha, we had an awesome Felmyst wipe last week. We lost two people due to being dumbasses. So our two resto druids BOTH goes to combat res them as he lands |
| 08:37.40 | Kalroth | Leaving 1 paladin to heal the MT through corrosion |
| 08:37.44 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 08:38.02 | nevcairiel | we another funny one, our off-warrior was MCed due to being retarded |
| 08:38.07 | nevcairiel | and he manages to get his fear off |
| 08:38.08 | Kalroth | Our MT took 12k, 13k, 7-8k, 13k, died from aoe damage :p |
| 08:38.13 | Kalroth | hahah |
| 08:38.13 | nevcairiel | and fears our MT into the fog |
| 08:38.28 | Kalroth | I ALWAYS burn my aoe fear because of shit like that |
| 08:38.41 | Kalroth | I use it on Felmyst, no harm done |
| 08:39.06 | nevcairiel | our people arent smart |
| 08:39.10 | nevcairiel | specially that guy =P |
| 08:40.15 | Kalroth | haha |
| 08:40.29 | Kalroth | have you killed M'uru yet |
| 08:41.13 | Kalroth | afk, going to tell the boss to fetch me some coffee |
| 08:41.14 | Bibi | [10:33:45] <nevcairiel> of course Bibi forgot to mention that in the summary =P |
| 08:41.20 | Bibi | or maybe Bibi doesn't report obvious typos |
| 08:41.21 | Kalroth | Bibi: usux |
| 08:41.26 | Bibi | because he's not crying for more traffic |
| 08:41.30 | Bibi | and doesn't spread false info |
| 08:41.32 | nevcairiel | Bibi: the base-mana cost reduction? |
| 08:41.35 | Bibi | DID YOU THINK ABOUT THAT ? |
| 08:41.40 | Bibi | NO YOU DIDNT |
| 08:41.41 | Bibi | :( |
| 08:41.51 | nevcairiel | i dont think the base-mana-cost reduction is a typo |
| 08:41.55 | nevcairiel | and you should mention it =P |
| 08:42.08 | nevcairiel | Maldivia: they nerfed LB too :( |
| 08:42.14 | Tem | btw, that base cost reduciton is from memory |
| 08:42.23 | Tem | I'm not sure of the old base cost |
| 08:42.24 | Bibi | [list][li]Arcane Blast changed. Each time you cast Arcane Blast, the damage is increased by 15% and mana cost is increased by 300%. (Previously 25% damage increase and 75% mana increase, but the 300% is most likely a typo and should be 30%)[/li] |
| 08:42.25 | Bibi | happy ? |
| 08:42.46 | Tem | that's not what he's talking about |
| 08:42.53 | Bibi | ok, let me explain something |
| 08:42.56 | Bibi | I didn't sleep in the last 28 hours |
| 08:43.01 | Bibi | and I never played a mage |
| 08:43.04 | Tem | iirc, the mana cost on arcane blast was 45% |
| 08:43.11 | Bibi | we're already reaching the point where I don't give a fuck about your spell. |
| 08:43.13 | Tem | it's now listed at 9% |
| 08:43.45 | Tem | if that's an actual change, it's important and makes the 300% mana cost increase seem less unreasonable |
| 08:43.58 | Bibi | 8926 : 9% of base mana, 30 yd range, 2.5 sec cast |
| 08:44.03 | Bibi | 8962 : 9% of base mana, 30 yd range, 2.5 sec cast |
| 08:45.07 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: ohh, how bad? |
| 08:45.33 | Tem | aha |
| 08:45.53 | nevcairiel | Maldivia: rank 1 from 273 heal to 224 |
| 08:45.57 | Bibi | Tem : I still don't get it |
| 08:45.57 | Bibi | :( |
| 08:46.01 | nevcairiel | and mana cost increase |
| 08:46.36 | Tem | Bibi, nothing. go to bed |
| 08:46.44 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: buuuh! |
| 08:46.47 | Bibi | I already yelled at the dev |
| 08:46.50 | Bibi | I need an explanation now. |
| 08:46.54 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: they wany us to spam nourish now? |
| 08:47.00 | nevcairiel | nourish sucks :( |
| 08:47.13 | Maldivia | it's a nice fast spell... for balance and feral |
| 08:47.14 | nevcairiel | its way to expensive |
| 08:47.19 | Syzgyn | Can someone help me figure out why my server seems to hate perl |
| 08:47.22 | Maldivia | for resto it sucks |
| 08:47.37 | nevcairiel | man i want to login to compare mana cost to my life char |
| 08:47.40 | nevcairiel | stupid realms |
| 08:47.44 | nevcairiel | *live |
| 08:47.54 | nevcairiel | whats 14% base mana for a lvl 70 druid |
| 08:48.43 | Maldivia | base mana for a 70 druid is around 2600, right? |
| 08:50.14 | Maldivia | really can't remember |
| 08:50.42 | Maldivia | 2370 mana for a 70 druid |
| 08:50.53 | Maldivia | 3796 for an 80 druid |
| 08:51.04 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: http://www.wowwiki.com/Base_mana |
| 08:51.35 | nevcairiel | lua> 2370*0.14 |
| 08:51.36 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 331.8 |
| 08:51.38 | nevcairiel | wt |
| 08:51.39 | nevcairiel | wtf |
| 08:51.42 | nevcairiel | it was 220 before |
| 08:52.10 | Maldivia | 220 in tree or out of tree? |
| 08:52.12 | nevcairiel | out |
| 08:52.26 | nevcairiel | 176 in |
| 08:52.39 | nevcairiel | now 331 out |
| 08:52.46 | nevcairiel | whats a freaking 50% cost increase |
| 08:52.53 | Maldivia | and a healing nerf |
| 08:53.57 | nevcairiel | they dont want druids to have mana anymore eh? |
| 08:54.07 | nevcairiel | remove imp tree, nerf lifebloom cost |
| 08:54.15 | Tem|sleep | GC posted that they were worried that druids would never run out of mana |
| 08:55.07 | Tem|sleep | which, I suppose, is a valid concern, since the other healing classes have to try to not go oom. |
| 08:55.30 | Tem|sleep | but if I'm going to be as mana inefficient as the rest, I want to heal as well as the rest |
| 08:55.34 | nevcairiel | i can go oom if i want |
| 08:55.38 | Tem|sleep | so can I |
| 08:55.41 | nevcairiel | specially if they force me to use nourish |
| 08:55.44 | Tem|sleep | regrowth, regrowth, regrowth |
| 08:56.02 | wereHamster | wikileaks is still dead slow :( |
| 08:56.11 | nevcairiel | specially in 10mans we cant keep tanks alive with throwing slow rejuv on them |
| 08:56.16 | nevcairiel | we have to use regrowth |
| 08:56.19 | nevcairiel | or nourish |
| 08:56.36 | Tem|sleep | not even with swiftmend? |
| 08:56.42 | Maldivia | Tem: with an innervate and hunter mana regen, I spammed regrowth for 5 minutes at level 80 on patchwerk... and had 50% mana when fight ended |
| 08:56.57 | Tem|sleep | oh wow |
| 08:57.00 | nevcairiel | regrowth was too cheap |
| 08:57.03 | nevcairiel | with imp tree |
| 08:57.16 | nevcairiel | but lifebloom was fine |
| 08:57.28 | Tem|sleep | *shrug* |
| 08:57.37 | Tem|sleep | I'm sick of waiting for servers |
| 08:57.39 | Tem|sleep | later guys |
| 08:57.45 | nevcairiel | later |
| 08:57.47 | Maldivia | later |
| 08:58.01 | Maldivia | if we're lucky they upped the spell power coeff :) |
| 08:58.12 | Maldivia | (always nice to be an optimist) |
| 08:58.33 | nevcairiel | on LB? |
| 08:58.46 | nevcairiel | that would probably make it too OP, but we'll see when the realms come up |
| 08:59.36 | nevcairiel | the healing reduction is like 8 per tic |
| 08:59.53 | nevcairiel | it could heal for 0 per tic and the bonus healing would still boost it alot |
| 08:59.57 | nevcairiel | but the mana cost is bad |
| 09:00.02 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 09:02.02 | nevcairiel | at least they doubled the effect of gift of the earthmother again |
| 09:02.32 | nevcairiel | .3 gcd reduction isnt .5 again, but its still better |
| 09:03.04 | krka | i thought you meant greatest common denominator first and couldn't make sense of it |
| 09:03.30 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 09:03.48 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 09:04.06 | Maldivia | I still can't get over the insane nerf to flourish |
| 09:04.31 | nevcairiel | its like one CoH cast spread over 7 seconds now |
| 09:04.45 | Maldivia | 1100 over 7 secs... |
| 09:04.46 | nevcairiel | with more mana cost |
| 09:04.57 | Maldivia | that's 160 healing/sec |
| 09:05.18 | nevcairiel | rank1 LB does more, and you can keep that on a shitload of people |
| 09:05.24 | nevcairiel | with one stack |
| 09:05.26 | Maldivia | say, with 2k spell power, that probably around 4500 over 7 sec? |
| 09:05.37 | nevcairiel | 3k more like it |
| 09:05.50 | nevcairiel | 7s hot is only half the duration |
| 09:05.51 | Maldivia | I was hoping for a 100% healing spell coef |
| 09:05.53 | nevcairiel | for max coeff |
| 09:06.15 | Maldivia | ohh wait, it's half duration - so 50%, and aoe, so that's another 1/3... |
| 09:06.19 | nevcairiel | well before the nerf on lvl 80 flourish i got it to aroudn 6k |
| 09:06.22 | nevcairiel | with 1300 spell power |
| 09:07.06 | nevcairiel | i bet its like 3000 with 2k spell power |
| 09:07.25 | Maldivia | with around 1300 sp, my nourish was ticking for around 6k over 7 sec |
| 09:07.33 | nevcairiel | yeah same |
| 09:07.36 | Maldivia | 8500 with speldor |
| 09:07.42 | Maldivia | splendor* |
| 09:07.50 | nevcairiel | ya the extra tics |
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| 09:10.05 | Maldivia | judging from that, it got around 100% spell power (and then some talents on top of that) |
| 09:10.53 | Maldivia | so with 1300 sp fully talented around 2800 over 7 sec |
| 09:10.53 | nevcairiel | yeah they about doubled all "old" coeff calculations |
| 09:11.45 | Maldivia | so ticks will be something like 550, 500, 450, 400, 350, 300, 250 |
| 09:11.54 | nevcairiel | one stack of lifebloom can top that if you let it expire |
| 09:12.54 | nevcairiel | its not viable at all in sunwell raid healing |
| 09:13.09 | Maldivia | in other words, druids will have a chance in hell to heal on for instance loatheb |
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| 09:31.04 | steev | wtf do they not test patches before they put them on the ptr, jesus christ |
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| 09:36.10 | Maldivia | steev: what do you think your job is on the PTR ? :) |
| 09:36.11 | Maldivia | heh |
| 09:37.31 | Maldivia | pastey's mysql really doesn't like large posts |
| 09:45.56 | steev | Maldivia: that requires the patch being put ON the ptr first |
| 09:48.07 | Maldivia | steev: so I take it the servers aren't up yet? |
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| 10:09.42 | starlon | Is there another site like wowcompares? |
| 10:10.21 | nevcairiel | whats wrong with wowcompares? |
| 10:11.03 | Maldivia | if you just want to see the UI diff from 8926->8962, then: http://patchdiff.pastey.net/96327 |
| 10:11.17 | starlon | I'm just wondering if one's already updated. |
| 10:11.31 | nevcairiel | just sign up on the kd3 mailing list :) |
| 10:13.52 | starlon | Where do I sign up for that? |
| 10:14.11 | nevcairiel | you talk to kd3 |
| 10:14.12 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 10:14.23 | starlon | k |
| 10:14.31 | nevcairiel | he sends patch diffs every patch |
| 10:14.48 | starlon | ah |
| 10:14.52 | Maldivia | and I upload them to pastey :) |
| 10:14.52 | starlon | kd3: ping |
| 10:15.14 | nevcairiel | slow pastey is slow on those big diffs, though |
| 10:15.23 | Maldivia | true |
| 10:17.00 | Maldivia | starlon: if pastey doesn't work for you: http://nerdheaven.dk/~the_real/8926-8962.diff |
| 10:18.19 | starlon | thanks |
| 10:20.29 | Fisker- | +fubar = true |
| 10:22.42 | nevcairiel | the whole file is fubared |
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| 11:38.43 | wereHamster | wtf? fubar = true? |
| 11:47.57 | Fisker- | owld >:3 |
| 12:05.33 | Maldivia | yeah |
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| 12:20.31 | nevcairiel | all beta realms are still in maintenance |
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| 12:44.42 | Bouvi | Mornin |
| 12:45.15 | Lopeppeppy | Heyo! |
| 12:56.52 | Fisker- | why so bleary? |
| 12:57.52 | Josh_Borke | too much sex |
| 12:57.57 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 12:58.23 | Cairenn | just waking up |
| 12:58.46 | Cairenn | (yes, I actually slept during dark!) |
| 12:58.53 | krka | waking up is better than the alternative |
| 13:00.47 | Bouvi | I was surprised to see you up Cairenn. :D |
| 13:01.04 | Cairenn | me too ;) |
| 13:03.15 | alestane | Oh. she's usually up about now...just about to go to bed. |
| 13:03.34 | krka | i've always found it silly how english uses "me too" instead of "i too" |
| 13:04.19 | Josh_Borke | i've always found it silly that your name is cracka |
| 13:04.38 | Josh_Borke | or at least, that's how i pronounce it |
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| 13:42.47 | Kajas | Is it possible to make an editbox read only? I've tried setting the enableKeyboard to false, but that doesn't work.. and I've tried other ways that I could think of, but those were invalid attemps that i had to remove |
| 13:43.04 | Kajas | couldn't find a 'readonly' attribute for editboxes so.. I'm at a loss |
| 13:43.18 | cbreak | they are edit boxes, intended for editing |
| 13:43.28 | cbreak | I guess you could restore them uppon changing |
| 13:45.00 | Kajas | well.. what I'm trying to accomplish is having the text from editbox A in different window to be transferred to edit box B in the main window.. but it can only be changed by editing box A |
| 13:45.43 | Kajas | But I don't think FontString will do what I want :( |
| 13:47.02 | Josh_Borke | you must be doing it wrong if it isn't working |
| 13:48.03 | Kajas | Best way I can describe it is when you create mail.. you type in an edit box.. when you read the mail you can't edit it. Both are housed in scrollframes with quite a large maxLetters count |
| 13:48.03 | Josh_Borke | editBoxB:SetScript("OnTextChanged", function(self) self:SetText(editBoxA:GetText()) end) |
| 13:48.48 | Kajas | Okay, so there's no way to disable the edit box. Alrihty, think I'll use that example for OnTextChanged and see what I can do |
| 13:49.08 | Josh_Borke | well, enableKeyboard(false) should do it |
| 13:49.16 | Josh_Borke | if it's not, you're not running it on the right editbox |
| 13:49.21 | Kajas | nope.. because I can still click in the edit box and type my heart out |
| 13:49.53 | Kajas | I'll pastey the code for the editbox. |
| 13:52.30 | krka | you could add an invisible frame on top of it |
| 13:52.45 | krka | or remove focus from it upon OnFocus |
| 13:55.13 | Kajas | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/96340 |
| 13:55.30 | Kajas | I tried clearfocus OnFocus, but that doesn't work once someone clicks on the editbox |
| 13:56.00 | Kajas | If I click the edit box then move away and go back to it, it'll clear.. but once it clears the first time the mouse goes over, it doesn't clear again until the mouse goes over it again |
| 13:57.04 | Josh_Borke | Kajas: add <OnLoad>this:EnableKeyboard(false)</OnLoad> |
| 13:57.15 | Josh_Borke | and <OnFocus>self:ClearFocus()</OnFocus> |
| 13:57.18 | Kajas | on the editbox's scripts area? |
| 13:57.27 | Josh_Borke | yes |
| 13:57.28 | Kajas | or the frame |
| 13:57.31 | Kajas | ok, I'll try that |
| 13:57.41 | Josh_Borke | around line 211 |
| 13:59.26 | Kajas | okay, the OnLoad did disable the keyboard, but the OnFocus does nothing |
| 13:59.32 | Kajas | thanks for the tip on the OnLoad :D |
| 13:59.57 | Josh_Borke | your xml definition for the frame isn't correct is what the problem is (i think) |
| 14:00.53 | Josh_Borke | Kajas: i believe you want a enableKeyboard=false |
| 14:01.16 | Josh_Borke | or maybe "false"? i dunno, i'm not good at xml |
| 14:01.45 | Josh_Borke | either way, the onload works |
| 14:02.00 | alestane | "false"...xml requires quotes on attributes. |
| 14:02.14 | Josh_Borke | alestane: thanks |
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| 14:28.56 | cbreak | those whiners on the beta forum are incredible... |
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| 14:29.08 | cbreak | they whine about the Random Number generator in a full page post |
| 14:29.22 | cbreak | without even a single word about why they think it's biased or predictable |
| 14:29.49 | doow | cbreak: link =) |
| 14:29.58 | cbreak | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10043086367&sid=2000 |
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| 14:31.43 | Lopeppeppy | cbreak, go kick 'em for me. Random is not random, we all know that, it's as random as it can be made to be, so stfu.... *laugh* |
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| 14:31.58 | cbreak | I can't post there |
| 14:32.23 | cbreak | I think the wow servers have more real entropy than you'll ever need |
| 14:32.49 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* |
| 14:32.53 | cbreak | all the network traffic and user controlled movement should feed the RNG enough... |
| 14:33.17 | nevcairiel | alone the vast number of queries to the RNG would feed it enough |
| 14:33.33 | nevcairiel | it could return sequencial numbers, and it would be fine |
| 14:33.38 | nevcairiel | due to millions of queries |
| 14:33.59 | Lopeppeppy | If there's not one QQ, there's another. |
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| 14:47.32 | alestane | Damn, they're actually trying Metamorphosis as an alternate stance instead of a cooldown burst. |
| 14:50.53 | nevcairiel | oh yeah i wanted to try how action bars react on metamorphosis right now |
| 14:50.57 | nevcairiel | damn beta servers, come back here |
| 14:51.10 | alestane | II'm on Beta (US)... |
| 14:51.22 | nevcairiel | EU servers are still gone |
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| 14:54.28 | alestane | Actually, I really like what they're doing with Demo now. The change to Improved Health Funnel is VERY welcome, and merging Fel Intellect into Fel Vitality means more points for cross-spec stuff. |
| 14:55.15 | alestane | Wacky new fury talent for warriors..."armored to the teeth." |
| 14:55.52 | Lopeppeppy | I ready that as a furry talent. |
| 14:55.53 | alestane | Actually, since it's tier 1, I suspect it's really for prot/arms warriors to cross-spec, but it's cute. |
| 14:57.54 | alestane | A little sad to lose Heroic Leap but Heroic Fury looks good too. |
| 14:58.48 | alestane | Tactical Master and Imp. Thundercla switched places? |
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| 14:59.13 | nevcairiel | its nice |
| 14:59.26 | zenzelezz | wait, what? Imp TC in Protection? |
| 14:59.41 | alestane | Yep. |
| 14:59.45 | alestane | Tier 1 Prot. |
| 15:00.07 | nevcairiel | prot is awesome now |
| 15:00.09 | zenzelezz | hm, then I can get away with fewer points in Arms... score |
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| 15:00.36 | nevcairiel | well it doesnt really matter that much |
| 15:00.39 | alestane | Still no glyphs for warriors or DKs yet. |
| 15:00.40 | nevcairiel | you spec the parry anyway |
| 15:00.42 | kneeki | I'm loving my Prot Pally :) |
| 15:01.21 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: yes, but it means I can skip X (still 3?) filler points in Prot |
| 15:01.33 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe I'll respec prot so I can taste it. Hmm. |
| 15:01.49 | alestane | Oh gods my warrior is going to be sick even at 20/51/0. |
| 15:01.51 | zenzelezz | do it Lopeppeppy, we can be prot together |
| 15:01.53 | durcyn | there are very few filler points left in prot |
| 15:01.54 | nevcairiel | there arent that many filler points in prot on 80 |
| 15:01.56 | nevcairiel | imho |
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| 15:02.11 | kneeki | Any ideas why I'm getting this error message when mousing over one of my created buttons? http://bayimg.com/JAkPHaAbI |
| 15:02.13 | nevcairiel | of course i didnt get imp DS |
| 15:02.14 | nevcairiel | but huh |
| 15:02.18 | kneeki | It seems that the Feedback UI is owning my tooltips |
| 15:02.21 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: nope, but I intend to start out at 70 and level up to 80. More fun points from the start |
| 15:02.33 | durcyn | still dumb stuff like imp bloodrage/revenge/disarm, but you didn't have to pick those up anyway |
| 15:02.36 | nevcairiel | the new prot dps is fun |
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| 15:02.42 | nevcairiel | i guess i'm leveling prot as well |
| 15:02.45 | alestane | Looks like prot warriors are going to use the shield a lot more aggressively in 3.0, rather than just hiding behind it. |
| 15:03.00 | Lopeppeppy | Yay for that. |
| 15:03.02 | zenzelezz | Imp Bloodrage is stupid? Unless your rage come way faster now, I disagree |
| 15:03.21 | nevcairiel | i never specced imp bloodrage |
| 15:03.45 | zenzelezz | matter of choice, I like it |
| 15:03.59 | zenzelezz | at least pre-3.0, will have to see how it feels again then |
| 15:04.11 | durcyn | there's no place for imp bloodrage in 8/5/48 |
| 15:04.29 | zenzelezz | I'm not cookie-cutter |
| 15:04.32 | zenzelezz | 11/0/50 |
| 15:04.49 | zenzelezz | and say whatever you want about it, it works for me =) |
| 15:04.51 | AckisWork | anyone non-enUS/enGB here that uses Ackis Recipe List? |
| 15:04.59 | nevcairiel | skipped the 5 crit? |
| 15:05.01 | nevcairiel | thats unusual |
| 15:05.05 | zenzelezz | I'm not usual |
| 15:05.06 | durcyn | zenzelezz: cruelty is amazing threat |
| 15:05.11 | alestane | Tornhoof: The bug you were running into is fixed on Beta now. |
| 15:07.21 | zenzelezz | durcyn: I did fine the way I played anyway :) With WotLK I'll have room for the talent though, at least unless they change the talents much more |
| 15:08.22 | zenzelezz | (in case it's not obvious, I don't claim to have an optimal spec, merely one I enjoy and my guildies seemed to accept) |
| 15:08.59 | nevcairiel | a lvl 80 build probably has enough points for imp bloodrage for me too |
| 15:09.12 | nevcairiel | http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior=050000000000000000000000000000253351025003012521330113321305000000000000000000000000 |
| 15:09.15 | nevcairiel | like that or so |
| 15:10.17 | alestane | http://notalwaysright.com/please-please-listen-to-yourself-talk/1002 ...sad. |
| 15:10.24 | Fogger | How could I make this Screenflash last longer, say 3sec, without slowing the animation? http://pastey.net/96342 |
| 15:11.06 | zenzelezz | hm, the mmo-champion link doesn't seem to load correctly for me |
| 15:11.28 | foxlit | Fogger: does not make sense |
| 15:12.02 | durcyn | nevcairiel: i'm leaning towards http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior=350000000000000000000000000000053351025203212520330113321005000000000000000000000000 |
| 15:12.06 | Fogger | well, it lasts around 1sec atm, so I guess I want it to flash 3 times consecutively |
| 15:12.39 | nevcairiel | no vigilance? hm, well its probably not as useful in raids |
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| 15:13.39 | durcyn | i'm not really impressed by vigilance and imp intervene yet |
| 15:13.54 | nevcairiel | the 10% threat reduction is nice for some always-aggro warlock or so |
| 15:13.58 | nevcairiel | but huh |
| 15:14.06 | Shirik | oh they put guardian spirit back huh |
| 15:15.46 | Shirik | desparate prayer is expensive |
| 15:15.47 | Shirik | damn |
| 15:16.09 | Shirik | 2500 mana from my standpoint right now |
| 15:16.21 | kneeki | Does <PreClick> not work with CheckButtons anymore? |
| 15:16.33 | kneeki | Or has it ever? |
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| 15:16.55 | alestane | AFAIK <PreClick> works with any descendant of Button. |
| 15:17.47 | kneeki | ... |
| 15:17.51 | kneeki | I must be using it wrong |
| 15:19.06 | cbreak | yay a patch |
| 15:19.37 | zenzelezz | I'll probably go with something like http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior=350000000000000000000000000000253351025203010521332013321005000000000000000000000000 this time around |
| 15:19.50 | Shirik | I don't believe this; they actually made priest talents hard to choose. As in, I'm not sure what I want because they're all good |
| 15:19.53 | zenzelezz | (by the way, what kind of perverted name is "Gag Order" for a talent?) |
| 15:19.57 | Shirik | I didn't think that's possible |
| 15:20.28 | zenzelezz | Shirik: go Discipline |
| 15:20.32 | Shirik | no |
| 15:20.47 | nevcairiel | zenzelezz: i dunno, but i would still spec it for the 10% shield slam dmg, and range pulling of casters =) |
| 15:21.18 | cbreak | Gag Order? Must be someone who's unhappy with all the NDAs... |
| 15:21.53 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: I used to have both Imp. SBash and Imp. Revenge, but I don't run that many non-raids anymore, so I'm unsure if I'll go that road again. If I do it'll be at the expense of whats-it-called, the -3 rage to all offensive |
| 15:22.05 | malreth | Gag Order: Always start with the noisiest hostage first. |
| 15:22.39 | nevcairiel | zenzelezz: i would skip the imp intervene and place those in gag order |
| 15:22.48 | nevcairiel | "Safeguard" i mean |
| 15:23.21 | zenzelezz | hm, that is a possibility. Worth evaluating certainly. I seemed to be the only warrior in our raids (out of four warrior tanks) that ever used Intervene \o/ |
| 15:23.35 | nevcairiel | really? |
| 15:23.57 | zenzelezz | hard to tell in the heat of battle, but as far as I could see the others didn't use it much |
| 15:23.58 | nevcairiel | ours use it all the time, and even if its only for moving faster, getting to portals on kalecgos, getting to the void sent on muru |
| 15:23.59 | nevcairiel | etc :P |
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| 15:25.04 | nevcairiel | My warrior is just my alt, so all i do is some heroics, ZA/Kara and some gruul/mags .. i usually have to intervene alot trash mobs there, hehe |
| 15:25.22 | durcyn | it's for movement though, not for saving someone's life |
| 15:25.39 | zenzelezz | I didn't team much with warrior tanks in 5-mans, so I don't know what they're like there :) I used Intervene wherever I could |
| 15:26.11 | nevcairiel | durcyn: usually thats a combination, in 5mans and 10mans anyway :D |
| 15:26.14 | nevcairiel | intervene and taunt |
| 15:26.24 | zenzelezz | I'm still fapping over the glyph that gives +4 targets to Thunder Clap |
| 15:26.31 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 15:26.38 | nevcairiel | and the massive aggro buff on TC |
| 15:26.51 | Thunder_Child | ~lart nevcairiel |
| 15:26.51 | purl | pours gasoline all over nevcairiel, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze |
| 15:26.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Sweet, I had 10% total damage done to Naj'entus last night |
| 15:26.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Win |
| 15:27.49 | zenzelezz | ScytheBlade1: class? |
| 15:27.49 | ScytheBlade1 | mage |
| 15:27.49 | AckisWork | standing too close to other people? ;) |
| 15:27.49 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 15:27.49 | ScytheBlade1 | That isn't counted in WWS |
| 15:27.49 | AckisWork | I got #1 damage on twins once as a holy priest!!!!! |
| 15:27.54 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 15:27.58 | ScytheBlade1 | If that ever happened I'd cry |
| 15:28.00 | durcyn | flame sear is pretty swell |
| 15:28.17 | zenzelezz | not quite related, but I remember once when we were three people left standing on Aran, and the holy priest got the killing blow |
| 15:28.21 | ScytheBlade1 | http://wowwebstats.com/a466f1kwb1g1m?s=26770-44959&a=x16ad4 |
| 15:28.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Go me |
| 15:28.30 | zenzelezz | sort of a... fail go at Aran |
| 15:28.53 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 15:28.58 | nevcairiel | back in MC days |
| 15:28.59 | Shirik | So does anyone know if CoH can proc surge of light? |
| 15:29.11 | nevcairiel | first of lucifron |
| 15:29.15 | nevcairiel | only MT in bubble left |
| 15:29.17 | nevcairiel | er |
| 15:29.20 | nevcairiel | Pala in bubble |
| 15:29.21 | nevcairiel | i mean |
| 15:29.24 | nevcairiel | and he kills him |
| 15:29.26 | nevcairiel | that was fun |
| 15:32.08 | ScytheBlade1 | If anyone wants to read and laugh at terrible rogues apping to sunwell guilds |
| 15:32.09 | ScytheBlade1 | http://alphaofysera.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3204 |
| 15:32.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Rogues who gem str |
| 15:35.41 | Shirik | Well that was interesting |
| 15:35.46 | Shirik | Downloading patch.... -1% |
| 15:37.53 | cbreak | the download was rather quick here |
| 15:38.08 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: win @ that post |
| 15:38.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Isn't it? |
| 15:41.25 | kneeki | I love soloing on my prot pally now =D |
| 15:41.30 | kneeki | Well, in beta anyway |
| 15:41.42 | kneeki | Killing stuff w/o my friends there = fun :) |
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| 15:48.52 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: http://alphaofysera.com/forums/showpost.php?p=20914&postcount=31 wins |
| 15:50.46 | Shirik | is that your guild, ScytheBlade1? |
| 15:51.00 | ScytheBlade1 | No |
| 15:51.14 | nevcairiel | are you the rogue? =) |
| 15:51.18 | ScytheBlade1 | But that thread is making the rounds through the WoW community |
| 15:53.02 | Fisker- | just like your mother then hoho etc. |
| 15:53.41 | Fisker- | also obvious troll is obvious |
| 15:54.09 | Shirik | ~weather kdab |
| 16:00.52 | kd3 | starlon, pong. /msg me an email |
| 16:02.17 | Nom- | hmmmmm |
| 16:02.23 | Nom- | i have money saved up for a new iMac now |
| 16:02.29 | Nom- | Just waiting for the new models |
| 16:02.33 | malreth | yay |
| 16:04.23 | Fisker- | Yeah when the new models get out, you're only a generation behind |
| 16:05.43 | malreth | don't listen to him. he just wants to make people feel bad. |
| 16:06.00 | malreth | he probably has a rash on his pee pee |
| 16:06.20 | Fisker- | Well of all people you should know, you were down there |
| 16:06.46 | malreth | documenting |
| 16:07.00 | Fisker- | y helo thar? |
| 16:07.40 | Fogger | can I run a local function in a local frame from /script command? |
| 16:08.12 | malreth | local objects cannot be referenced outside of block they're defined in |
| 16:08.34 | Fogger | malreth: right, thanks. |
| 16:08.37 | cbreak | local functions are not accessible outside their scope I think. |
| 16:08.58 | foxlit | German dubs are amusing |
| 16:09.12 | foxlit | Especially since they dub the songs |
| 16:09.18 | cbreak | almost as bad as english dubs. |
| 16:09.50 | malreth | lua> do local function foo() print"hooha" end; function bar() foo() end end; foo() |
| 16:09.51 | lua_bot | malreth: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'foo' (a nil value) |
| 16:09.58 | malreth | lua> do local function foo() print"hooha" end; function bar() foo() end end; bar() |
| 16:09.58 | lua_bot | malreth: hooha |
| 16:10.03 | foxlit | Now now, no one said "bad" |
| 16:10.17 | cbreak | I did :) |
| 16:11.24 | foxlit | Problem is, english dubs of things I watch tend to replace original music with some native stuff |
| 16:11.41 | Fisker- | [L]Leeeeeeeeeeeeeroy! Kill 50 rookery whelps within 15 seconds. 10 Title: Jenkins |
| 16:11.42 | Fisker- | holy shit |
| 16:11.53 | Fisker- | no question about Leeroy getting that implemented :D |
| 16:11.55 | cbreak | ... |
| 16:12.39 | Fisker- | I wonder why they're making heoric raids >:3 |
| 16:12.43 | malreth | "I will travel across the land... Searching far and wide. Each Pokemon to understand the power that's insiiide... POKEMON! It's you and me. I know it's my destiny!" |
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| 16:12.58 | Fisker- | OH OF COURSE |
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| 16:13.08 | foxlit | Except Disney. I don't know what dark magic they employ, but they tend to connect the music/lyrics in languages I can actually check reasonably well. |
| 16:13.11 | Fisker- | Normal = 10-man, Heroic = 25-man |
| 16:13.13 | Fisker- | >:E |
| 16:13.44 | foxlit | malreth: catchy tune |
| 16:14.02 | foxlit | In fact, I'm staring at the german version of the Lion King soundtrack on iTunes |
| 16:14.29 | malreth | that's because German is superior to the English language in every way |
| 16:14.59 | foxlit | Have you heard the songs? :) |
| 16:15.29 | malreth | i've listened to Smurf songs in the original German |
| 16:15.47 | malreth | listening to that makes you want to believe that a God exists |
| 16:16.04 | cog|work | eep... the public mail box at work is full of address changes from people who worked at lehman bros... |
| 16:16.22 | ScytheBlade1 | That's no good :/ |
| 16:16.27 | kd3 | oof |
| 16:16.36 | malreth | is "investment banking" even an industry anymore? who's left? |
| 16:16.36 | kd3 | and rofl; fark: [Dumbass] â« Frank, Frank, Frank of Long Island â« Car thief, what a louse â« AaAaAaAaAaAaAaAaAaAaAaAaAaAa â« WATCH OUT FOR THAT HOUSE â« |
| 16:16.39 | cog|work | good thing they already paid >< |
| 16:17.08 | erikd | has anyone used slickedit? |
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| 16:20.16 | Anaral | *sighs* I remember once upon a time that the Beta General chat would have the undocumented changes for new patches on the first page... not a bunch of whining. |
| 16:21.53 | erikd | speaking of whining, did the new patch fix the lag? |
| 16:22.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, hit 78 or do some homework.. |
| 16:22.38 | foxlit | HOMEWORK! |
| 16:22.47 | End | back in the day, I had to walk uphill through the snow both ways, and we had a really nice chat about it! |
| 16:23.27 | foxlit | But then the air was clean, the snow was white, and abridged episodes came out every few weeks rather than months |
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| 16:26.19 | cbreak | apropos whining: they nerfed human spirit from 10% to 3%... what was the problem with getting a tiny bit more regen out of combat? |
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| 16:27.32 | erikd | spirit doesn't just affect out of combat regen |
| 16:28.29 | erikd | with the HUGE amount of spirit you'll have in end game raiding 10% will give way more regen than i'm sure they intended |
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| 16:28.41 | cbreak | it only affects out of combat regen |
| 16:28.48 | foxlit | depends on class |
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| 16:28.54 | cbreak | and if you have arcane meditation or mage armor, a tiny bit in combat |
| 16:28.57 | cbreak | but that's it |
| 16:29.16 | foxlit | And priests. And druids. And warlocks. |
| 16:29.28 | erikd | it's mostly for priests |
| 16:29.30 | cbreak | yeah, right, human druids :) |
| 16:29.31 | End | not warlocks |
| 16:29.37 | End | well |
| 16:29.41 | Jamash | warlocks too now |
| 16:29.42 | End | it helps fel armor's spell damage |
| 16:29.45 | End | but not regen |
| 16:29.49 | erikd | cbreak: never been in old hillsbrad? ;) |
| 16:29.49 | End | unless you count life tap |
| 16:29.53 | cbreak | point is: spirit is worthless for anything besides regen |
| 16:30.06 | foxlit | No longer strictly true, either |
| 16:30.06 | End | they changed the fel armor "regen" to a flat hp/5 |
| 16:30.06 | Jamash | well yeah, it's the regen stat |
| 16:30.11 | cbreak | and now I get only 30% of the bonus I got in BC |
| 16:30.26 | End | so warlocks won't get passive mana regen in combat (again) |
| 16:30.31 | erikd | there's talk of possibly giving spell damage to balance druids based off spirit |
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| 16:31.01 | cbreak | there won't be human druids, so nerfing our racial because of that would be dumb. |
| 16:31.29 | erikd | the raiding game has also changed, whereas you might not have a mana battery in tbc you will now |
| 16:31.44 | foxlit | and vice versa |
| 16:32.04 | erikd | how vice versa? |
| 16:32.07 | foxlit | if you had a mana battery previously, you may actually get less mana now. |
| 16:32.48 | erikd | you're saying if you had a shadow priest in tbc you might not have one in wotlk? o.O |
| 16:33.04 | erikd | or any other battery class |
| 16:33.17 | cbreak | their regen was lowered as far as I recall |
| 16:33.37 | foxlit | ^ |
| 16:34.15 | cbreak | ah well... I am much more angered with the frostbolt glyph :) |
| 16:34.27 | cbreak | now officially bad for pvp and pve |
| 16:34.29 | erikd | but with the way raids work now if you have 2 mana batteries they'll feed each other |
| 16:34.58 | erikd | well, 2 or more :) |
| 16:35.21 | erikd | i was disappointed they took out the swipe glyph |
| 16:35.23 | foxlit | Compared to the amount of mana they regenned to themselves in BC? |
| 16:35.34 | erikd | but the maul one is pretty nice to make up for it |
| 16:36.24 | cbreak | the frostbolt glyph neuters frostbolts, it removes their chill effect |
| 16:36.34 | cbreak | that means no fingers of frost, no frostbite |
| 16:37.07 | erikd | if you cut the regen of a spriest in half from tbc you'd still stay at 100% of the tbc regen because you'd benefit from both the spriests, or maybe even more than 100% if you had 3 (but i doubt it) |
| 16:37.48 | cbreak | but the sp regen isn't raid wide in wotlk |
| 16:37.53 | cbreak | it's some selective thing |
| 16:38.10 | erikd | the raid wide buffs make everything change, if they left it at tbc levels it'd trivialize raiding. people would never run out of mana and you wouldn't have to conserve |
| 16:38.13 | cbreak | and they don't stack |
| 16:38.20 | ScytheBlade1 | it's selective to the point where it is essentially raid-wide |
| 16:38.25 | ScytheBlade1 | If you have low mana you'll get it eventually |
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| 16:39.39 | smcn | is there a new vellum for BC enchants yet? :P |
| 16:39.55 | foxlit | 2 regen-supplying classes == 20 regen buff slots > number of mana-consuming players in 25-man raids |
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| 16:40.05 | foxlit | So with any luck, it'll be up 100% of the time |
| 16:40.20 | foxlit | (or, well, on 100% of the people -- duration is oddly missing from tooltip) |
| 16:40.32 | foxlit | On the other hand, it's only 0.25% of max mana per second. |
| 16:40.39 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10043216548&sid=2003 <-great idea poor execution :D |
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| 16:40.55 | cbreak | my elemental is 0.6% max mana per 5 secs |
| 16:41.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Fisker-: rofl |
| 16:41.05 | ScytheBlade1 | hahaha |
| 16:41.26 | foxlit | your what now? :) |
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| 16:47.13 | End | Curse of Doom now gives 100% chance to spawn a doomguard if the target dies to curse of doom. |
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| 16:52.43 | alestane | Metamorphosis is a stance. |
| 16:53.23 | End | ah that makes sense |
| 16:53.32 | End | except setting up the bar might be annoying |
| 16:53.51 | alestane | Or at least it lasts until canceled now. |
| 16:53.57 | End | does it? |
| 16:54.11 | alestane | That's what the tooltip says. |
| 16:54.12 | End | interesting... |
| 16:55.46 | alestane | And the only side I can see to it is that I think it still makes you vulnerable to Turn Evil and Exorcise. But considering the pile of free armor, extra damage, resilience and snare resistance, I suspect people will deal. |
| 16:55.53 | alestane | only downside* |
| 16:56.00 | Nom- | Yeah, but what's the chance of something dieing to curse of doom |
| 16:56.02 | Nom- | pretty damn slim |
| 16:56.52 | Nom- | You'll basically have to put it on some weak mob and keep fearing it until it died |
| 16:56.52 | foxlit | You could set it up in a solo environment, if you really wanted a doomguard for some reason. |
| 16:57.10 | ccox | wow - they changed the icons for pigments |
| 16:57.11 | Nom- | Yeah... not really much point to it imo |
| 16:57.20 | cbreak | we had it happen in BT a few times |
| 16:57.29 | ccox | now all the pigments plus primals and enchant mats make for a very, very colorful bank |
| 16:57.40 | Nom- | zzz time i think |
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| 17:18.59 | alestane | End: Also firestones and spellstones are totally different now. |
| 17:22.11 | smcn | is the fog in HF causing anyone else to crash? |
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| 17:22.42 | End | alestane: yeah I saw |
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| 17:30.09 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 17:30.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Just had a guildie ask me for PTR help |
| 17:30.24 | ScytheBlade1 | He said that he started it once, and on starting it again, it stopped working |
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| 17:30.30 | ScytheBlade1 | DivxDecoder.dll: "not found" |
| 17:30.49 | ScytheBlade1 | After having him run the .exe directly, he said it worked, because he put the "shortcut" he put on his desktop back in the folder |
| 17:31.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Something tells me that wasn't a shortcut he put on his desktop |
| 17:32.16 | Duman | heh |
| 17:32.31 | Duman | forgot to hold down alt while dragging |
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| 17:36.52 | Jelly-School | ~hug Shirik |
| 17:36.53 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Shirik |
| 17:38.21 | Jelly-School | no love |
| 17:38.27 | kd3 | hot damn |
| 17:38.31 | kd3 | they did a pirate day event |
| 17:38.35 | Jelly-School | !!!! |
| 17:38.41 | kd3 | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/10043166471-pirate-day.html |
| 17:39.48 | Jelly-School | nice |
| 17:40.31 | End | neat |
| 17:40.46 | Neuro_Medivh | lol, that's awesome |
| 17:41.20 | kd3 | Fisker-, ^ |
| 17:44.44 | haste | on a 16TB raid, what filesystem would you use? XFS and ZFS come to mind |
| 17:44.56 | haste | but the box runs linux, so ZFS is out of the question |
| 17:45.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd be running either XFS or reiserfs |
| 17:45.53 | zenzelezz | I know it's irrational, but I just don't trust reiserfs anymore |
| 17:46.03 | zenzelezz | expect to boot my computer one day with files missing |
| 17:46.23 | haste | I run rs4 on my root actually :p |
| 17:46.25 | Josh_Borke | very irrational |
| 17:46.28 | Tornhoof | forget reiserfs |
| 17:46.29 | Josh_Borke | haste is just dumb |
| 17:46.34 | ScytheBlade1 | That's really incredibly irrational, but for whatever reason, you're not the only person to think that |
| 17:46.37 | ScytheBlade1 | ... with that said |
| 17:46.42 | Tornhoof | haste, including ups? |
| 17:46.44 | ScytheBlade1 | reiserfs devel has moved to kernel.org services |
| 17:46.47 | ScytheBlade1 | and mailing lists |
| 17:46.47 | Tornhoof | if yes, take xfs |
| 17:46.58 | zenzelezz | (I assume everyone understood the reference) |
| 17:47.00 | ScytheBlade1 | It really isn't going anywhere any time soon |
| 17:47.16 | Josh_Borke | rs4 is still experimental, isn't it? |
| 17:47.28 | haste | yes |
| 17:47.30 | ScytheBlade1 | I've run it a fair bit myself |
| 17:47.34 | Tornhoof | zfs is solaris only anyway |
| 17:47.36 | haste | but I consider it more stable than ext4 |
| 17:47.36 | ScytheBlade1 | It's got that label |
| 17:47.43 | ScytheBlade1 | But so does any current 2.6 kernel |
| 17:47.43 | haste | Tornhoof: and bsd |
| 17:47.53 | Josh_Borke | i don't do enough with my files to warrant anything experimental |
| 17:48.01 | Tornhoof | experimental afaik on bsd |
| 17:48.09 | Josh_Borke | the current filesystems work well enough for me |
| 17:48.14 | haste | I thought it was considered stable |
| 17:48.48 | ScytheBlade1 | New 2.6 kernels? Or something else? |
| 17:48.50 | Tornhoof | its marked experimental in freebsd 7, no later system here |
| 17:48.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 17:48.59 | haste | hokai |
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| 17:51.46 | Tornhoof | I'm running a 8tb raid5 on xfs, with battery backup module on the controller and external ups |
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| 17:54.26 | zenzelezz | welcome back miss peppy |
| 17:54.37 | Jelly-School | yay! |
| 17:54.39 | Jelly-School | ~hug Peppy |
| 17:54.40 | purl | ACTION hugs Peppy |
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| 17:56.32 | Jelly-School | gah. more no love. |
| 18:00.24 | Lopeppeppy | Sorry, I was sooooo hot and I ducked right out for a drink at the fountain. Heya, guys. |
| 18:01.34 | Lopeppeppy | Bee-otch. |
| 18:01.39 | Jelly-School | ~tickle Peppy |
| 18:01.40 | purl | ACTION jumps on Peppy, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!" |
| 18:01.59 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, that rhymed |
| 18:02.12 | zenzelezz | ScytheBlade1: you don't like reading about hot women? |
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| 18:05.39 | Jelly-School | So Peppy, HOW'S YOUR DAY? |
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| 18:08.31 | Lopeppeppy | Jell-dear, I'm all perky from spending a few hours at a Vendor Faire being Customer Service Barbie for our table. *perky vapid giggle* |
| 18:09.20 | Jelly-School | ~snicker |
| 18:10.01 | Jelly-School | I'm all :| from an exam and a huge decision on if I want to stick around for sociology. Your day > |
| 18:10.20 | Lopeppeppy | Suck it up and do sociology. Learn about your world, you can do it. |
| 18:11.51 | Jelly-School | Learn about cultural imperialism. Woot. |
| 18:14.36 | Lopeppeppy | Never said it was surface apparent how it relates to the world, love. |
| 18:15.09 | Jelly-School | You know I love you, right Peppy? |
| 18:15.18 | Jelly-School | But sometimes, I just wanna ... ~choke |
| 18:15.20 | Jelly-School | <33 |
| 18:15.58 | Lopeppeppy | I don't disagree... I always learned more from doing the papers than I ever, ever did in class. For me, class was something I went to so that I could get the paper assignments. |
| 18:16.32 | Jelly-School | Don't wanna get into that conversation again lest we upset the "powers" here. :P |
| 18:19.21 | Lopeppeppy | *huggle* I is quiet now! |
| 18:19.59 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:19.59 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10043086633&sid=1 |
| 18:20.05 | ScytheBlade1 | "We have Achievements, now we need Failures" |
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| 18:21.16 | sacarasc | i'd automatically have all the failures, just because that's how I am |
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| 18:34.33 | Tekkub | http://consumerist.com/5050925/man-tells-fax-spammers-to-go-fax-themselvesand-they-comply |
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| 18:36.48 | newaee | Hello, I was wondering if there is someone experienced in macro making that could help me set one up. |
| 18:37.08 | Dashkal | Tekkub: win |
| 18:37.18 | Lopeppeppy | Depends what you need, newaee. Did you have an existing macro to put into a pastey for people to look at? |
| 18:37.19 | Dashkal | ~asktoask |
| 18:37.19 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
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| 18:38.40 | newaee | ok, sorry. What I need is a castsequence macro that will cast blessing of might on player1 and 2, and wisdom on player 3 and 4 |
| 18:38.56 | jaxdahl | i recommend PallyPower |
| 18:39.05 | jaxdahl | it's an addon |
| 18:39.27 | newaee | I rather run as light as possible, but thanks for the tip |
| 18:40.41 | jaxdahl | slow computer? |
| 18:41.13 | Jelly-School | No really. If you have three addons running, make Pally Power one of them. |
| 18:41.37 | alestane | newaee: /castsequence doesn't rotate through targets, but if you really want to keep things light you could try the MacroSequence add-on. It lets you set up custom sequences of commands. |
| 18:41.42 | Jelly-School | I know that doesn't help you with what you /want/ but it's the best advice I can give you. |
| 18:42.28 | foxlit | It's a sad state of things when Pally Power is actually recommended. |
| 18:43.14 | newaee | Thanks everyone. |
| 18:43.17 | foxlit | (not that I think there's anything terribly wrong with the performance aspect - it's just the UI that could've been done way, way better) |
| 18:43.31 | jaxdahl | make it way way better t hen |
| 18:43.38 | Jelly-School | While I agree, it really helps a lot of headaches imo. |
| 18:43.49 | Dashkal | foxlit: Could poke at zomgbuffs and see if that UI is more to your liking. Similar feature set (and talks to PP) |
| 18:44.07 | foxlit | Dashkal: I don't actually have any paladins |
| 18:44.29 | foxlit | I also wrote and maintained a more generic buffing addon from roughly 1.10 to 2.4 |
| 18:44.29 | Dashkal | zomgbuffs is more a general case. Tries to handle all buffing. As a druid where my job is gift, however, I don't bother. |
| 18:44.59 | NightHawkTheSane | this is almost too amusing to be true.. http://notalwaysright.com/paging-leonidas-to-the-front-desk/1218 |
| 18:46.03 | alestane | Anyone have any recommendations for free clip art of computer parts? (Yes, I'm also Googling it.) |
| 18:46.25 | kneeki | newegg :) |
| 18:46.40 | foxlit | http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1830262 |
| 18:47.46 | alestane | kneeki: I'm teaching a class and have to worry about permissions. I could probably claim fair use easily enough but am trying to avoid situations like that. |
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| 18:48.01 | kneeki | alestane: Ahh, good point |
| 18:48.10 | kneeki | what kind of class is it? |
| 18:48.32 | alestane | Web authoring. I need some images the students can put on the page they're building. |
| 18:48.49 | kneeki | Ahh |
| 18:48.51 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, most images on wikipedia are open source, you can check each one for licensing and only use what's free. |
| 18:49.11 | smcn | LOL at the comments here http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/09/18/motorcycles-finally-implemented-in-the-wrath-beta/ |
| 18:49.15 | Shirik|Ecole | rawr |
| 18:49.16 | kneeki | http://classroomclipart.com/cgi-bin/kids/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Clipart/Computer |
| 18:49.16 | cbreak | many on deviantart are CC |
| 18:49.19 | cbreak | in various forms |
| 18:49.20 | foxlit | If you're teaching a class somewhere |
| 18:49.20 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 18:49.23 | smcn | i never realized motorcycles were so offensive |
| 18:49.34 | Jelly-School | those in and of themselves are why i'm keeping engineering! |
| 18:49.42 | foxlit | Wouldn't that somewhere license some generic images? |
| 18:50.37 | alestane | foxlit: I can ask the department head if we have a clip art library, and probably will but I don't have any guarantees. |
| 18:55.38 | alestane | Actually, whether or not graphic and content sources are cited correctly is part of the grading scheme, so perhaps I can just let them scavenge images. |
| 18:55.51 | foxlit | evil you |
| 18:57.14 | alestane | Well, I'll also have to tell them. |
| 19:00.16 | Lopeppeppy | alestane: Tell them that everything must be documented and copyright noted, and if you catch them using anything copyright, you have a class discussion topic. :) |
| 19:00.45 | alestane | Basically. But I think it'll probably do better than having me try to come up with all the content they can use. |
| 19:01.51 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, totally. Make them do their own work, they'll learn much better from it IMO. |
| 19:01.56 | alestane | So instead I can spend that time working up class policy handouts. |
| 19:02.39 | alestane | Change of Subject; Oh yeesh: http://notalwaysright.com/it-almost-never-hurts-to-check/748 |
| 19:03.09 | kd3 | huzzah |
| 19:03.14 | kd3 | they fixed beta testers on the PTR |
| 19:03.26 | alestane | Yes they did. |
| 19:03.38 | Dashkal | ooo, I'll have to free up some more hd space and get that installed now |
| 19:03.59 | nevcairiel | Dashkal: whats the point if you have beta? =P |
| 19:04.15 | alestane | Yeah, considering that patches want about 4 free gig on the disk to finish. |
| 19:04.28 | Dashkal | nevcairiel: most of my guild doesn't have beta |
| 19:04.43 | Tornhoof | hmm is securehandlerclicktemplate compatible with actionbuttons to cast spells? i tried that and couldn't get a cast out until i removed the _onclick handlers |
| 19:05.13 | alestane | Tornhoof: No. |
| 19:05.42 | alestane | If you want to associate a secure snippet with clicking on an action button, use :WrapScript(). |
| 19:06.10 | Dashkal | But I'm sitting on a terabyte of space. I can find it. |
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| 19:06.17 | Tornhoof | alestane, can i use :setpoint() in that combination? |
| 19:06.32 | nevcairiel | Dashkal: i find it silly that you have to re-download everything =P |
| 19:06.46 | Dashkal | nevcairiel: agreed. Good thing my bandwidth cap is far beyond what I need |
| 19:07.07 | alestane | Tornhoof: You can wrap any snippet you want around a frame's <OnClick>. |
| 19:10.21 | Tornhoof | so maybe i can include the old call of elements mode now in yata (reordering popup buttons based on clicks) |
| 19:10.39 | Tornhoof | i guess i'll have to wait until the ptr is up to try that |
| 19:11.04 | Dashkal | I think this chick lurks on the forums... http://notalwaysright.com/please-please-listen-to-yourself-talk/1002 |
| 19:18.21 | Tekkub | which xkcd shirt should I get? |
| 19:18.46 | foxlit | who are you? |
| 19:18.54 | zenzelezz | hah, there's a Leeroy achievement? WIth a title as reward... that is so awesome |
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| 19:19.28 | Tekkub | well I like the regex one... |
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| 19:19.53 | Tekkub | the "compiling" one doesn't quite fit me because all the languages I use are interpreted |
| 19:20.18 | Dashkal | zenzelezz: what's it called? |
| 19:20.28 | Tornhoof | prefer that one: http://xkcd.com/55/ |
| 19:20.41 | zenzelezz | achievement, "Leeeeeeeeeeeeroy!" (+/- a couple E-s), title: "Jenkins" |
| 19:20.46 | Tekkub | yea that one's tempting too |
| 19:21.12 | foxlit | Hm, dunno |
| 19:21.36 | foxlit | "Stand back, I'm going to try science" and Useless -shirts are the ones I like :) |
| 19:21.51 | Dashkal | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?achievement=2188 |
| 19:21.54 | Dashkal | nice |
| 19:22.31 | foxlit | http://go-hero.net/flow.svg |
| 19:22.33 | Dashkal | I am so getting that one |
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| 19:23.07 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Zootfizzle] by ChanServ |
| 19:23.11 | cbreak | I've spent the last 20 mins setting my talents |
| 19:23.25 | cbreak | that really sucks nowadays :/ |
| 19:23.27 | Tekkub | Zooty, you get the tiebreaker vote |
| 19:23.36 | zenzelezz | I'm still waiting for a Quel'Serrar achievement... thought I heard there'll be one |
| 19:23.41 | Tekkub | which xkcd shirt should I buy for BlizzCon? |
| 19:23.59 | alestane | Then again, some people are just completely insane: http://notalwaysright.com/dr-jekyll-and-mrs-hyde/1082 |
| 19:24.37 | haste | Tekkub: compiling! |
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| 19:25.19 | Zootfizzle | Science: It works, Bitches |
| 19:25.24 | Zootfizzle | Is my personal favorite XKCD shirt |
| 19:25.52 | foxlit | what the |
| 19:25.57 | foxlit | Who killed UnitReactionColor! |
| 19:26.19 | Tekkub | *points at zoot* |
| 19:26.22 | Zootfizzle | The butler, in the API, with the carving knife. |
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| 19:27.59 | alestane | FOr anyone who hasn't read this ( http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2924802&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1 ), I love that the post-degree guy helping out at the LHC is wearing an XKCD "Science" t-shirt in the opening photo. |
| 19:29.00 | Tekkub | oh another vote for science works |
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| 19:33.12 | alestane | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202271194&sid=1&pageNo=10#194 ... WTFH? |
| 19:35.16 | Tornhoof | hmm? |
| 19:35.35 | alestane | The post about ebay. |
| 19:35.42 | Tornhoof | troll |
| 19:36.10 | alestane | Somebody just randomly deciding to weird people out? |
| 19:36.31 | Tornhoof | yes, wow forums at its best? |
| 19:36.53 | *** join/#wowuidev Rabbitbunny (n=Bunny@unaffiliated/rabbitbunny) |
| 19:36.55 | alestane | I guess I'm spoiled...we don't normally get much of that in UI. |
| 19:38.11 | cbreak | finally, all talent points spent |
| 19:38.21 | Rabbitbunny | lua> t = { [1] = 1, [2] = 2, [3] = 3 }; for k,v in pairs(t) do print(k..v) end |
| 19:38.21 | lua_bot | Rabbitbunny: 11, 22, 33 |
| 19:38.38 | Rabbitbunny | lua> t = { [1] = 1, [3] = 3, [2] = 2 }; for k,v in pairs(t) do print(k..v) end |
| 19:38.39 | lua_bot | Rabbitbunny: 11, 22, 33 |
| 19:38.47 | Rabbitbunny | ... hmm. |
| 19:39.03 | foxlit | um |
| 19:39.09 | foxlit | print(selectedSlice); |
| 19:39.09 | foxlit | if not selectedSice then print("Exit"); return nil, "Hide"; end |
| 19:39.20 | foxlit | typo, nevermind :) |
| 19:39.23 | Rabbitbunny | I've got a table where k are all ints and v are tables, it's printing them out of order. |
| 19:40.33 | cbreak | pairs or ipairs? |
| 19:40.38 | Rabbitbunny | pairs |
| 19:40.49 | cbreak | pairs is not ordered |
| 19:40.57 | alestane | pairs makes zero guarantees about order. |
| 19:41.12 | Rabbitbunny | ipairs prints nothing. |
| 19:41.18 | Rabbitbunny | lua> t = { [1] = 1, [3] = 3, [2] = 2 }; for k,v in ipairs(t) do print(k..v) end |
| 19:41.19 | lua_bot | Rabbitbunny: 11, 22, 33 |
| 19:41.35 | Rabbitbunny | ... ipars prints nothing unless you use the lua bot. |
| 19:41.49 | cbreak | I use ipairs in my addon |
| 19:41.59 | cbreak | it's not supposed to print :) |
| 19:42.44 | alestane | If you want to go through a contiguous array in order, use ipairs. If you want all entries in a table, use pairs. If you want to get any integer keys even though there may be gaps, use a for i=1,table.maxn(t) do loop. |
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| 19:43.10 | Rabbitbunny | http://www.pastebin.com/m7892053c |
| 19:43.56 | Rabbitbunny | note that showForecast() does nothing. |
| 19:44.15 | alestane | Blank pastey. |
| 19:44.24 | Tornhoof | no wonder it does not print anything, no lua code there |
| 19:44.48 | Rabbitbunny | oh, without the www. I need to get Synergy working too. |
| 19:45.20 | alestane | Are you doing this on Live or the PTR? |
| 19:45.49 | Rabbitbunny | I don't think that would run inside wow. Lua 5.1 via Brain Damage. |
| 19:46.10 | Tornhoof | well thats correct, its integer keys with gaps for certain |
| 19:46.24 | Rabbitbunny | Definatly. |
| 19:46.37 | bleetyarrr | SHIVER ME TIMBERS! |
| 19:47.03 | foxlit | Hm, Alexstrasza can't actually show us the event :( |
| 19:48.13 | Rabbitbunny | Oh jesus. You know how slow that is? |
| 19:49.34 | alestane | Does maxn turn out large? |
| 19:50.05 | Rabbitbunny | Yes. it's os.time() + (5 * 86400). |
| 19:50.44 | Rabbitbunny | starting i at os.time() works pretty well. |
| 19:52.08 | alestane | You might want a second table to sort your keys in or something: "local temp = {}; for k in pairs(t) do table.insert(temp, k) end; table.sort(temp); for i, v in ipairs(temp) do ..." |
| 19:56.37 | Rabbitbunny | Ah ha, faster even. |
| 20:00.06 | nevcairiel | Maldivia: man the blues even think the flourish change is good |
| 20:02.33 | Thunder_Child | ~lart bleetyarrr |
| 20:02.33 | purl | gives bleetyarrr a "free" copy of Windows and then charges double for "Upgrades" |
| 20:03.32 | bleetyarrr | hehe.. Dread Admiral DeMeza |
| 20:04.14 | foxlit | I wonder if there's forum whining about the King yet |
| 20:06.30 | nevcairiel | I wish i could post on the damn US Beta forums |
| 20:10.13 | Dotted | WTB ChatButtons module for Prat-3.0 |
| 20:10.57 | sylvanaar | yeah, i know, its on the list to do next, i have been raiding on beta |
| 20:11.10 | Dotted | slacker :P |
| 20:11.40 | sylvanaar | i know |
| 20:12.34 | Dotted | any small addon that can do it? annoying to have the buttons overlap with my minimap :( |
| 20:13.06 | sylvanaar | yeah, there are a bunch |
| 20:13.15 | Dotted | i must be blind then >_< |
| 20:13.33 | Dotted | tried tweakhub but that does more harm than good :/ |
| 20:13.38 | sylvanaar | you can take simplechatmods and remove the parts you dont want for example |
| 20:14.17 | jaxdahl | nevcairiel, do you need something posted? |
| 20:14.27 | nevcairiel | only my ranting |
| 20:15.09 | Dotted | probably gonna end up doing that |
| 20:15.12 | Dotted | thx |
| 20:15.15 | nevcairiel | i just want to punch that blue post "hey look flourish heals over 7s 50% more then CoH does instant, its clearly better" guy |
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| 20:18.56 | *** topic/#WoWUIDev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 2.4.x ToC: 20400 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | BlizzCon UI Community Tentative Schedule: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17443 | "Tell her to buy a hand-drive." - Lopeppeppy |
| 20:19.13 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 20:20.01 | Cairenn | sekrets! |
| 20:20.02 | ScytheBlade1 | =[ |
| 20:20.22 | Lopeppeppy | Girls talk when you can't hear us. But damn we're funny when we do. :) |
| 20:20.32 | ScytheBlade1 | I repeat |
| 20:20.34 | ScytheBlade1 | =[ |
| 20:20.35 | zenzelezz | peppy and Cairenn discussing hand-drives in private? How unfair to the perveted among us |
| 20:20.49 | Lopeppeppy | That's why she shared. |
| 20:23.30 | Lopeppeppy | .... |
| 20:23.32 | Lopeppeppy | Not my doing! |
| 20:26.45 | cog|work | s/on/along/ |
| 20:26.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik|Ecole: you tackle an awful large number of people |
| 20:26.58 | Shirik|Ecole | it's fun |
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| 20:27.27 | kd3 | egah. trying to kill stuff in northrend... bad idea |
| 20:27.40 | ScytheBlade1 | lag? |
| 20:27.43 | kd3 | ya |
| 20:29.54 | bleetyarrr | forces |
| 20:29.54 | bleetyarrr | bah |
| 20:30.16 | ScytheBlade1 | bleetyarrr: /nick bleetarr |
| 20:30.17 | ScytheBlade1 | go |
| 20:30.47 | Neuro_Medivh | sigh, bye bye spirit link |
| 20:31.28 | Neuro_Medivh | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202381435&sid=2000&pageNo=2#37 to any who haven't seen it |
| 20:31.33 | Fisker- | HOLY SHIT KD3 |
| 20:31.46 | zenzelezz | sadly... my most successful pick-up line to date was "Yarr, I been lookin' fer some first-class booty, and ye look just like it, so I'll be stealin' ye now" |
| 20:31.50 | Fisker- | there was a pirate event created >:3 |
| 20:32.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Neuro_Medivh: that's kinda sad,cause spirit link was neat.. but i understand the change :\ |
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| 20:33.07 | bleetyarrr | Fisker-: I bitched and moaned at them last year for not having an event ;) |
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| 20:33.31 | Neuro_Medivh | yeah... Spirit Link was too good in many ways, and was causing all sorts of issues |
| 20:33.50 | Arrowmaster | POWER! |
| 20:34.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Neuro_Medivh: eh, i thought it was a little lackluster in pve honestly |
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| 20:35.50 | Neuro_Medivh | that's just it... it's one of those abilities that, to make it worthwhile for pve, you'd have to make it completely broken for pvp |
| 20:36.10 | NightHawkTheSane | also, ugh, like 19/20 posters in that thread are all drooling morons that probably barely know how to faceroll a keyboard >< |
| 20:36.37 | foxlit | "I LEVELLED A SHAMAN TO 70 SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF SPIRIT LINK SO I COULD ACTUALLY HAVE FUN PVPING AND YOU REMOVE IT 2 MONTHS BEFORE THE EXPANSION COMES OUT? |
| 20:36.38 | foxlit | " |
| 20:36.41 | foxlit | comedy! |
| 20:36.48 | zenzelezz | hey, facerolling is tough... you could hit a movement key or jump key and interrupt your spell casting |
| 20:36.49 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i lol'd |
| 20:38.28 | Dewin | Okay, I have to ask... what exactly is the origin of the word 'facerolling'... |
| 20:38.41 | ScytheBlade1 | A post on the mage forums a long time ago |
| 20:38.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Which was copied to the lock forums |
| 20:38.48 | Lopeppeppy | Dewin.. rolling your face on the keyboard. |
| 20:38.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Where it became popular |
| 20:39.13 | Dewin | Lopeppeppy: I figured that's what it meant, I just had no idea where it came from |
| 20:39.15 | alestane | The one I remember said, "To play a warlock, all you need to do is wrap your head in bubble-wrap and roll your face on the keyboard and you will own everything." |
| 20:39.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Some guy basically screamed that he could cover himself in baby oil and roll his face across the keyboard while screaming "I AM THE LEET SAUCE" and pull 1800s with warrior/druid |
| 20:39.44 | Dewin | lol |
| 20:39.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Oddly the thing that stuck was the face rolling, not the baby oil. |
| 20:40.11 | alestane | I think the reference far predates arena, actually. |
| 20:40.25 | ScytheBlade1 | It may |
| 20:40.28 | ScytheBlade1 | It was quite a while ago |
| 20:40.46 | Dewin | that warlock thing is so true too. I regularly take a stream of mobs on my 24 warlock |
| 20:41.18 | alestane | Personally, I think people mistake low-downtime for high power. I can still get swamped. |
| 20:41.58 | Dewin | that's true. |
| 20:42.37 | Dewin | if I go oom on my warlock and have more than one monster left in the group, it'll be like [Release] [Use Soulstone] |
| 20:42.42 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.wikihow.com/Play-a-Warlock |
| 20:42.54 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1602655517&sid=1&pageNo=7#128 |
| 20:42.58 | ScytheBlade1 | That signature |
| 20:43.55 | alestane | My rogue can't chain mobs because he starts best in stealth, but he has almost as little down time. To me the principle difference is that my 'lock can solo level 70 elite giants, which my rogue can't...and that's only going to be worse with the talent revisions. |
| 20:45.47 | alestane | Sbo: The one I saw like that was someone who said they bound the right half of their keyboard to Sunder Armor and the left side to taunt, and played by smashing their face into the keyboard repeatedly while screaming "I R L33T TANK!!1!" |
| 20:46.01 | alestane | Same joke basically. |
| 20:46.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, apparently |
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| 20:46.45 | alestane | They didn't mention baby oil. Maybe that makes the delivery. |
| 20:46.51 | Dewin1 | That was interesting. |
| 20:47.12 | Dewin | I opened the window and then alt-tabbed |
| 20:47.26 | Dewin | and then my alt-tab 'app' got stuck in an infinite loop of alt-tabbing that not even ctrl+alt+del would break |
| 20:49.40 | Arrowmaster | i always yell at my rogue friend when hes soloing, he chain pulls and doesnt even stop when hes at 10% hp and still doesnt die |
| 20:50.22 | alestane | Cheat Death is no longer anywhere near as cool in PvE (imo) but evasion is great. |
| 20:50.34 | NightHawkTheSane | I think i stopped to eat/drink all of four or five times while leveling to 80.. *shrug* |
| 20:50.38 | Arrowmaster | hes not sub spec when he does that |
| 20:50.46 | Arrowmaster | combat |
| 20:50.53 | Anaral | Hope everyone already pre-ordered their Collector's Edition... apparently all online and retail stores are 'sold out'. |
| 20:51.09 | Fisker- | nah |
| 20:51.10 | NightHawkTheSane | yesterday! |
| 20:51.14 | bleetyarrr | Anaral: not my local EB, I have... |
| 20:51.15 | Fisker- | none of them have actually gotten any copies yet |
| 20:51.16 | bleetyarrr | 'plans' |
| 20:51.35 | bleetyarrr | yeah, my EB won't allow pre-orders on the CE, will be first come first served when it's released |
| 20:51.43 | Anaral | bleetyarrr: unless you've already preordered, then they are no longer taking orders. |
| 20:52.13 | Dewin | yaaay, normal faces are back. |
| 20:52.16 | bleetyarrr | the local EB has ordered stuffs, but which of their customers get it is a diff matter, at least the manager was saying yesterday |
| 20:52.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Amazon.com ftw |
| 20:52.50 | smcn | guess i should have ordered mine the other day |
| 20:52.54 | ScytheBlade1 | I didn't like the idea of shelling out $15 extra just for it. Yay Gamestop. |
| 20:52.55 | Arrowmaster | bah i was in no possition to go out this week |
| 20:53.10 | Arrowmaster | bestbuy still doesnt have the CE listed online |
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| 20:54.01 | Dewin | PVE PTR is up for those who care. |
| 20:55.09 | Arrowmaster | i dont even see the CE on amazon |
| 20:56.19 | Esamynn | I'm just praying that the CE I preordered is close enough to the top of the list that they don't run out before getting to me |
| 20:57.09 | alestane | Arrowmaster: http://www.amazon.com/World-Warcraft-Wrath-Lich-Collectors-Pc/dp/B001G4VCII/ref=sr_tr_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1221771366&sr=8-1 |
| 20:57.16 | bleetyarrr | I hear there's some stores in Buttplugg Montana that still have BC CE on the shelf |
| 20:58.03 | Thunder_Child | Hogfather WINS! |
| 20:58.07 | Arrowmaster | alestane: yes i see that one is only a resale item..... |
| 20:58.20 | alestane | They say further down they are sold out. |
| 20:58.25 | Arrowmaster | i dislike that amazon turned into ebay |
| 20:58.59 | alestane | Since it says I purchased that item two days ago...that's the actual listing I'm afraid. |
| 20:59.43 | Thunder_Child | lol? |
| 20:59.51 | bleetyarrr | mibbit go futz? |
| 21:00.18 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: amazon is, ni fact, not like ebay |
| 21:00.33 | Arrowmaster | its now ebay without the auctions |
| 21:00.47 | NeoTron | nah. marketplace is marketplace. it's very different |
| 21:00.56 | NeoTron | just because some idiot lists CE for 299 |
| 21:01.04 | bleetyarrr | pfft, ebay is barely an auction house these days |
| 21:01.05 | NeoTron | they are negociating a larget supply of CE btw |
| 21:01.18 | NeoTron | and just got the "release day" delivery option up |
| 21:01.40 | Esamynn | who, Amazon? |
| 21:01.47 | Arrowmaster | its an MMO they could ship them a week early and i doubt blizz would give a fuck |
| 21:02.39 | NeoTron | Esamynn: yes |
| 21:02.49 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: you'd be surprised |
| 21:03.18 | NeoTron | they have to negociate getting stock early enough to do it |
| 21:03.50 | Dewin | Arrowmasters: Most game companies are VERY strict about 'street dating' games. |
| 21:04.11 | Arrowmaster | except for an mmo its a little different |
| 21:04.23 | Arrowmaster | since you cant do anything with it if you get it early |
| 21:04.35 | Dewin | that's beside the point. |
| 21:05.48 | NeoTron | indeed. doesn't matter. |
| 21:06.09 | NeoTron | what you think "should" happen is irrelevant :P |
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| 21:06.14 | Dewin | wow. This patch brought my hit rating back to what it is in live with the same gear, but I lost 4% crit rating |
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| 21:07.18 | Shirik|Ecole | rawr |
| 21:07.24 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 21:07.40 | bleetyarrr | omg it's Shirik|Ecole the scurvy dog! |
| 21:08.03 | Shirik|Ecole | pirates don't say omg |
| 21:08.09 | Antiarc | omgyarr! |
| 21:08.21 | End | omgmatey |
| 21:08.40 | Neuro_Medivh | they say ymh! |
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| 21:11.06 | bleetyarrr | Shirik|Ecole: it be pirate day, i be talking like a pirate, i be saying omg and if ye don't be liking it... to the plank with ye!!! |
| 21:11.20 | Shirik|Ecole | :( |
| 21:11.45 | |Jelly| | http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_wGr8njEWjtI/SKD1cY_2nyI/AAAAAAAAAQA/6EdtTJfw4ow/s1600-h/Julie+S.jpg |
| 21:12.00 | Dewin | hmm, the patch broke the interface options panel it seems |
| 21:12.23 | alestane | I know I need to tweak some stuff that mods it, yes. |
| 21:12.51 | alestane | They had to do a bunch of work on the options panels to account for many settings being stored server-side. |
| 21:13.13 | NeoTron | |Jelly|: so.. they wrote olympics rings instead of making the olympic rings? |
| 21:13.23 | |Jelly| | I would assume. |
| 21:13.32 | Dewin | alestane: I mean yesterday's/today's patch. Do you also, or are you talking 3.0 in general? |
| 21:14.08 | alestane | The latest build makes some fairly sweeping changes to the UI panels, and I believe they include the server-side allowances. |
| 21:14.28 | NeoTron | hopefully settings get sorted out |
| 21:14.39 | alestane | My two mods that tweak those panels just broke this last patch. I presume it's a frame name change or something similar. |
| 21:14.48 | Dewin | yeah, that's kind of an annoying thing to have broken |
| 21:14.55 | NeoTron | I'm tired of rebinding auto-walk (or rather removing my vent PTT button from th econfig) and changing ui scale every time I log in :P |
| 21:14.58 | bleetyarrr | |Jelly|: http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh56/kantankerus/General/best_wishes.jpg |
| 21:15.17 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: that ui scale bug drives me batty >< |
| 21:15.18 | Dewin | Bad enough to have addons that are slightly broken from minor bugs, worse to have it be suddenly unconfigurable because of blizz lol |
| 21:15.24 | |Jelly| | Yeah, that's on there. Apparently Wal-Mart is ... smrt. |
| 21:15.55 | Dewin | lol |
| 21:16.03 | NightHawkTheSane | well, they're working at wal-mart, what do you expect. |
| 21:16.26 | Dewin | misspelled underneath too. |
| 21:17.12 | bleetyarrr | yarrr |
| 21:18.43 | Arrowmaster | omfg i fired up GH3 and tried to play One on Hard for the first time since i had just unlocked that tier last week, failed at 78% and my hand fucking hurts like hell |
| 21:19.22 | Fisker- | this is madness |
| 21:19.29 | Fisker- | why haven't blizzard made signups possible yet? :I |
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| 21:19.48 | cbreak | signups? |
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| 21:24.35 | Dewin | For like raids? |
| 21:24.46 | Fisker- | damnit |
| 21:25.43 | Dewin | bah, how do I go get the wotlk version of ace3. >.> |
| 21:26.00 | alestane | My bad, my mods did not break...I had just turned them off to test something else. |
| 21:26.07 | digmouse | SVN branches |
| 21:26.25 | Dewin | yeah, working on that. |
| 21:26.44 | nevcairiel | meh blizz broke the addons-interface options |
| 21:26.50 | Dewin | yup |
| 21:27.47 | cbreak | options interface? real men use command line config! |
| 21:27.54 | Saiket | I liked having all the panels in one window. :( |
| 21:30.10 | foxlit | cbreak: real men don't play WoW. |
| 21:30.32 | malreth | i haven't played WoW in months |
| 21:31.11 | foxlit | malreth has earned the achievement: "I'm a real boy!" |
| 21:37.40 | Sixen | Does anyone know if the RAF keys refresh eventually? |
| 21:37.49 | Sixen | For example, if I use 1, will I get another one back? |
| 21:38.10 | bleetyarrr | another one back? |
| 21:38.21 | bleetyarrr | as in, a free bonus one? |
| 21:38.23 | Sixen | So I can have my 5 total again. |
| 21:38.38 | bleetyarrr | oh, them... |
| 21:38.49 | cbreak | RAF? |
| 21:38.54 | Sixen | Recruit-A-Friend |
| 21:40.03 | bleetyarrr | Sixen: In my account's life, I've RAF'd twice. I have 5 RAF's available. From memory, my last RAF was 5-6 months ago. If there's a cooldown, suspect it's a month after first payment or something |
| 21:40.15 | bleetyarrr | Sixen: (I just looked at my account details for you) |
| 21:40.29 | Sixen | Ah alright |
| 21:40.30 | Sixen | =] |
| 21:40.34 | bleetyarrr | bah.. I forgot lots of yarrs and shiver me timbers.... i'm teh scurvy dawg!! |
| 21:40.40 | Dewin | I don't recall there being a cooldown, you can just only have 5 out at a time I thought |
| 21:41.02 | Sixen | Yeah, I know that part, but I wanted to know if i'd ever get them back so I can keep sending 'em. |
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| 21:43.29 | Dewin | they expire after a month |
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| 21:44.35 | Fisker- | i am so lonely Corgan ;( |
| 21:45.03 | Corgan | :( |
| 21:45.22 | Fisker- | just kidding i have my own friends and my own creditcards |
| 21:45.27 | RawrVed | Hey. I'm new (completely) to LUA and WoW addon making.... i know what i want to do but i don't know how to go do it. |
| 21:45.32 | krka | RawrVed: No reason to yell the name of the langage. |
| 21:45.47 | RawrVed | krka: sorry |
| 21:47.17 | End | RawrVed: krka always does that, but yeah, it's not supposed to be all uppercase |
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| 21:47.48 | RawrVed | but i want to rewrite the Bongos3 addon to support the new patch and i'm not even sure how to do that or whether it might be easier just to recreate the features from scratch. |
| 21:49.09 | RawrVed | Essentially, I want a good actionbar addon that isn't too complex but doesn't leave out features like dominos did |
| 21:50.23 | jaxdahl | anyone know of an addon where i can tell it to 'equip all my gear with the most stamina possible' ? |
| 21:52.34 | NightHawkTheSane | jaxdahl: i think outfitter has functionality like that |
| 21:52.34 | Anaral | You could use Outfitter to create such an outfit and keybind it or whatever. |
| 21:52.34 | Dewin | Outfitter |
| 21:52.55 | Anaral | I win! My response was the most full. |
| 21:52.59 | Anaral | complete* |
| 21:53.05 | bleetyarrr | I've seen outfitter miss some stats, but yes it's pretty good at getting it right |
| 21:53.06 | Thunder_Child | then you fail like that.... |
| 21:53.29 | Dewin | I have an addon that's completely destroying my chat window on the PTR and I can't figure out which one it is /sigh |
| 21:53.58 | RawrVed | do you have Prat 2.0 Dewin? |
| 21:54.15 | Dewin | Nope |
| 21:54.25 | Dewin | and Prat 3.0 alpha crashes wow to a 'report this to blizzard' prompt |
| 21:54.33 | RawrVed | oh |
| 21:54.42 | sylvanaar | no it doesnt |
| 21:54.58 | Dewin | Well, it probably only is doing it in conjunction with whatever addon is trashing my chat frames. |
| 21:55.11 | sylvanaar | reloadui crashes the client |
| 21:55.37 | sylvanaar | whats wrong with your chatframes? |
| 21:55.44 | Dewin | Prat 3.0 gave me a button on my chat window that, when clicked, causes an infinite loop of memory allocation which crashes wow. |
| 21:55.54 | sylvanaar | yeah, that got broken recently |
| 21:55.57 | Dewin | Well, earlier, they were always coming in with a white background and all other colors white |
| 21:56.21 | sylvanaar | wierd |
| 21:56.24 | Dewin | Now I fixed that so I'm getting regular colors, but I don't see any chat whatsoever, even after reseting chat defaults and/or checking the thing myself |
| 21:56.32 | sylvanaar | yikes |
| 21:56.44 | Dewin | it's a non-WOTLK addon that's doing it, because disabling out of date addons makes it go away |
| 21:56.54 | Dewin | But I'd like to know which one is doing it |
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| 21:57.38 | Guest42079 | fine then |
| 21:57.39 | Guest42079 | I hate you too |
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| 21:58.08 | Dewin | I disabled all addons that oloked even remotely chat-related and it didn't catch it, so now I'm disabling them in groups until I catch the culprit. |
| 21:59.04 | Dewin | and, given that DeadlyBossMods just came up in an error message, I think I have my culprit |
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| 21:59.58 | Saiket | What's the specific crash you get? |
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| 22:00.31 | Saiket | I gave up on one of my addons that crashed all the time... and it touches chat frames. |
| 22:01.43 | Saiket | Error #132: The instruction at "0x00000000" referenced memory at "0x00000000". The memory could not be "read". |
| 22:01.50 | Saiket | Always nulls for the addresses. |
| 22:02.24 | Dewin | Saiket: I didn't record it, wowerror.exe already did and sent it. But it wasn't that |
| 22:02.29 | Dewin | It was clearly an out-of-memory error |
| 22:02.42 | Dewin | not error #132, which has its own stickied thread on the PTR forums |
| 22:05.27 | Dewin | why does deadlybossmods want to hook the chat frame anyways? |
| 22:06.00 | cbreak | it probably has sinister motives. |
| 22:06.18 | Dewin | I guess that's what makes it deadly |
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| 22:07.08 | Dewin | well, this is not helpful |
| 22:07.15 | sylvanaar | Dewin you can fix the button thing in prat if you change modules/copychat line 354 to self.str = "", or wait until i post an update |
| 22:07.29 | Dewin | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/96369 |
| 22:07.42 | Dewin | sylvanaar: I'll wait for an update, it's not a priority atm |
| 22:08.26 | RawrVed | Well, i'm completely confused about how to do this action bars addon... I've read alot but don't understand much of it |
| 22:08.44 | Dewin | I never used it before anyways, I was just thinking about installing it since it looks like I'll have to recreate my chat frames anyways |
| 22:10.20 | alestane | RawrVed: From what I remember, Bongos3 is a pretty full-featured bar addon, and not something which is trivial to update. I'm sure you can do it, but it's likely to take more than a couple hours, especially if you have no experience with mods. |
| 22:10.59 | bleetyarrr | boobie addon |
| 22:12.01 | Dewin | aha! so Cartographer and DBM are both exploding my chat frames, or maybe DBM was only because of Cartographer. |
| 22:12.09 | jaxdahl | bah, perl classic needs an update |
| 22:12.20 | jaxdahl | it's breaking in a bad way in the latest build |
| 22:12.24 | RawrVed | alestane: i'm willing to put in the time but i could use a little help getting to know the syntax and such |
| 22:12.27 | cbreak | lua > perl. |
| 22:12.37 | cbreak | </flame> |
| 22:12.47 | cbreak | forgot the start tag :/ |
| 22:13.05 | alestane | RawrVed: I'd recommend trying to make one bar with minimum configuration options, then trying to add some of the features you want just to that bar. That will give you a grounding in what you need to know to tackle Bongos. |
| 22:13.19 | Dewin | cbreak: I believe he was referring to perl unit frames, not practical extraction and reporting language. |
| 22:13.49 | RawrVed | alestane: here's the thing though.... I've read so many wikis yet for some reason, i can't understand much of it |
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| 22:14.11 | alestane | Do you have any previous programming experience? |
| 22:14.24 | RawrVed | with other programs, yes |
| 22:14.31 | alestane | What about Lua? |
| 22:14.52 | Duman | what languages do you know |
| 22:14.53 | RawrVed | sql and a little bit of php but not lua |
| 22:14.58 | alestane | ~pil |
| 22:15.01 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 22:15.15 | alestane | That's my recommended starting point. |
| 22:15.39 | Fisker- | Anyone figured out what the robot chicken does in booty bay? |
| 22:15.57 | Duman | isn't it some trading card thing? |
| 22:16.15 | Lyn | moo |
| 22:16.17 | Fisker- | well can't even see it on any database sites |
| 22:16.19 | alestane | Probably belongs to that guy Oglethorpe or whatever his name is who keeps losing the homing chickens in far corners of the world. |
| 22:16.26 | Lyn | Fisker-, its tcg loot stuff |
| 22:16.30 | Lyn | wait searching wowhead link |
| 22:17.00 | Lyn | Fisker-, http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34492 |
| 22:17.32 | Duman | hehe homing chickens |
| 22:17.45 | Corgan | lol lol lol |
| 22:17.46 | Corgan | Fisker- |
| 22:17.47 | Corgan | http://i34.tinypic.com/30iyy5e.jpg |
| 22:17.49 | Fisker- | weird |
| 22:21.28 | Cide | /script GameTooltipTextLeft3:SetText("VERY LONG TIME REMAINING") |
| 22:21.53 | Corgan | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=40916 |
| 22:22.46 | Cide | that too |
| 22:23.31 | Corgan | shaman bloodlust + spell haste and nature's grace procs |
| 22:24.02 | Corgan | need a mana battery to see how far I could go |
| 22:25.13 | Corgan | and maybe another innvervate or two |
| 22:31.10 | Fisker- | holy shit |
| 22:31.37 | Fisker- | overopwered |
| 22:31.38 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 22:31.44 | cbreak | frost mage power to the rescue |
| 22:31.52 | cbreak | I wonder if they finally fixed imp. we |
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| 22:45.07 | Thunder_Child | i'm sorry but "The Cream of Clapton" is not a good album title |
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| 22:50.07 | zenzelezz | at least it sounds like he had a good time making it |
| 22:54.19 | zenzelezz | or maybe he's trying to reach a new audience |
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| 23:11.41 | alestane | Sigh... http://notalwaysright.com/teenage-boys-and-smutty-mags-you-dont-say/701 |
| 23:12.29 | Syzgyn | Hah |
| 23:14.15 | Thunder_Child | i would be a bad store manager. i would respond with "the power of my boot compels you to gtfo of my store" |
| 23:16.14 | Syzgyn | That tends to only work if you own the store |
| 23:16.45 | Thunder_Child | or if you dont mind getting fired |
| 23:17.06 | Syzgyn | true, true |
| 23:18.01 | Dashkal | Read the boss has a stupid quota ones.... then wish you had one of them for a boss :p |
| 23:18.43 | bleetyarrr | lol 'bloodsail admiral <name> jenkins' |
| 23:19.29 | Thunder_Child | i wonder if i could get away with "look lady, i dont go into your church complaining about the fact that all your reading material has creationism in it" |
| 23:23.27 | Tekkub | well that's great, ye olde "talk to the nameplate" solution doesn't work anymore |
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| 23:23.44 | Tekkub | and you get an interact icon over the target frame, but right click opens the menu |
| 23:25.43 | Dewin | I wonder if any of my talents will still be there |
| 23:26.07 | Dewin | (when the forums come back up, that is) |
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| 23:27.17 | NeoTron | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/september/8962/grandcaravanmammoth.jpg 3 passangers.. and vendors! |
| 23:28.02 | |pez| | NeoTron: passangers? :o |
| 23:28.04 | NeoTron | yes |
| 23:28.27 | |pez| | you can get mounts with passengers in the new expansion? 0.o |
| 23:28.28 | |pez| | or.. |
| 23:28.33 | |pez| | am I totally mistaken? |
| 23:28.52 | Esamynn | I heard they were planning that |
| 23:29.02 | |pez| | Because that, that would be freaking awesome |
| 23:29.11 | NeoTron | yes |
| 23:29.13 | Thunder_Child | and iritating at times |
| 23:29.15 | |pez| | I'm sort of imagining horses with carriages and stuff. |
| 23:29.17 | NeoTron | the mammoth has 3 passanger seets |
| 23:29.21 | NeoTron | the motorcycle ahs the sidecar |
| 23:29.34 | |pez| | Thunder_Child: True "wtb trip to x" |
| 23:29.44 | Thunder_Child | come for a ride and spend 5 min waiting for the driver to stop being a dick and get you to where you want to go |
| 23:29.51 | NeoTron | "Summon Grand Caravan Mammoth - Summons and dismisses a rideable Grand Caravan Mammoth. This is a very fast mount that can carry 3 passengers and vendors." |
| 23:30.02 | Thunder_Child | and vendors? |
| 23:30.03 | NeoTron | "and vendors" |
| 23:30.15 | NeoTron | yeah I'm quite.. confused |
| 23:30.30 | Esamynn | O_o |
| 23:31.32 | Esamynn | lol |
| 23:32.08 | NightHawkTheSane | 1g/yd? ;) |
| 23:32.14 | Esamynn | haha |
| 23:32.19 | |pez| | NightHawkTheSane: hellyeah ;P |
| 23:32.39 | NeoTron | what I wonder is if this 15k gold mount will be faster |
| 23:32.43 | Thunder_Child | >.< so who is making the taxicab addon? |
| 23:33.05 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: faster than what? |
| 23:33.06 | |pez| | NeoTron: holycrap, 15k gold XD |
| 23:33.58 | |pez| | I have... 300 gold altogether XD |
| 23:34.19 | Esamynn | you're poor |
| 23:34.20 | NeoTron | NightHawkTheSane: normal epic mounts |
| 23:34.31 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: probably not, no. |
| 23:34.36 | Esamynn | how can something be both normal and epic? :P |
| 23:34.57 | NeoTron | normal = single person, standard |
| 23:34.58 | Thunder_Child | s/normal/standard/ |
| 23:34.58 | NeoTron | epic = fast |
| 23:35.29 | Esamynn | heh, that was too easy :P |
| 23:35.33 | Dashkal | Esamynn: http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=40775 |
| 23:35.40 | Dashkal | normal and epic at the same time :p |
| 23:35.59 | Dashkal | (not what they meant, I know) |
| 23:36.00 | Esamynn | haha |
| 23:36.18 | Esamynn | Dashkal: "very fast" actually :P |
| 23:36.21 | NeoTron | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/september/8962/tail_carpet.jpg |
| 23:36.24 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 23:36.35 | NeoTron | I wonder what the difference is between the skill level 450 and the 420 one |
| 23:36.38 | NeoTron | except more expensive mats |
| 23:36.39 | Esamynn | none of the "epic" mounts describe themselves as such |
| 23:36.52 | Dashkal | this is true |
| 23:37.09 | ScytheBlade1 | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=43810 |
| 23:37.09 | |pez| | omg, flying carpets? D: |
| 23:37.10 | ScytheBlade1 | wtb |
| 23:37.10 | |pez| | :D |
| 23:37.16 | Esamynn | "This is a very fast rug." |
| 23:37.18 | Esamynn | ROFL |
| 23:38.05 | |pez| | ... |
| 23:38.24 | Thunder_Child | bad puns inc? |
| 23:39.01 | Syzgyn | So apparently I'm the only warrior who liked the change to heroic leap |
| 23:39.04 | NightHawkTheSane | |pez|: way ahead of you. im just too distracted leveing skinning to make a bad joke ;) |
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| 23:39.33 | NightHawkTheSane | Syzgyn: yeah, and im apparently the only shaman who likes the loss of spirit link |
| 23:39.38 | alestane | Syzgyn: Heroic Fury? I think it's cool. |
| 23:39.40 | |pez| | I'm not really making bad jokes, I'm just realizing how horrible my mind is to me. :P |
| 23:40.04 | Syzgyn | Everyone on the warrior forums are QQing and want heroic leap back |
| 23:40.10 | Syzgyn | despite admitting that it was useless |
| 23:40.15 | Thunder_Child | |pez|, $5 says it's not as bad as most on here |
| 23:40.46 | NeoTron | demonic leap, same thnig, was the coolest ability I have had / used to date in myh WoW career |
| 23:40.50 | NeoTron | so I understand the QQ |
| 23:40.53 | |pez| | Thunder_Child: Oh, I'm sure it isn't. Can you send those $5 over to my paypal account? |
| 23:41.05 | Ackis | when does brewfest start, and anyone on a non-english client use ackis recipe list? |
| 23:41.14 | |pez| | Oh, brewfest :D |
| 23:41.17 | NeoTron | and I don't understand why it was so hard to implement |
| 23:41.19 | alestane | |pez|: [18:10] alestane almost typed "full-figured bar addon"...hooray for Freud. |
| 23:41.27 | Syzgyn | I'll admit it was alot of fun to use |
| 23:41.33 | Syzgyn | but it was useless |
| 23:41.42 | NeoTron | it could have been changed to work like charge |
| 23:41.42 | Thunder_Child | |pez|, yes |
| 23:41.44 | NeoTron | and boom, instant use |
| 23:42.21 | NeoTron | meaning targeted |
| 23:42.21 | Syzgyn | ah |
| 23:42.21 | NeoTron | or use a targeting circle |
| 23:42.21 | |pez| | Thunder_Child: seriously? 0.o |
| 23:42.41 | Syzgyn | I expect it was a programming issue |
| 23:42.51 | Thunder_Child | |pez|, sure, if you can prove it |
| 23:42.59 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: really, without knowing how their code works, its impossible to say why it was so hard to get right, but it's really easy to undertand that it CAN be really tricky to make work properly |
| 23:43.02 | NeoTron | Syzgyn: good guess... since they said it was |
| 23:43.13 | Syzgyn | heh |
| 23:43.28 | Tekkub | and the addon config ui is broken, huzzah |
| 23:43.34 | NeoTron | kitty leap used the same style graphics |
| 23:43.42 | bleetyarrr | Syzgyn: YOU NO HAVE FUN!! |
| 23:43.44 | |pez| | Thunder_Child: Aww, poop. :\ |
| 23:44.07 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: you can't really make comparisons like that just by "looking at it" though |
| 23:44.24 | NeoTron | kitty was changed |
| 23:44.25 | NeoTron | too |
| 23:44.43 | bleetyarrr | ok, to the troll who asked said 'they'll nerf it' last time I mentioned furbolg /dance animation and dartol's rod.... SUCKKAH YOU!!! |
| 23:44.47 | NightHawkTheSane | you have no idea how often i've wanted to murder designers, sales people, and support people who say "well a is kind of like b, can you just make them work the same?" |
| 23:44.50 | NeoTron | at least the wording is changed in a manner that let's me believe it was |
| 23:45.11 | |pez| | I want to move. :\ |
| 23:45.13 | bleetyarrr | abd yes, I would go looking in the logs, but I fear it'd open me up to more poor grammar |
| 23:45.18 | NeoTron | the DK ghoul has the same ability too |
| 23:45.26 | NeoTron | obviously npc ability but same concep |
| 23:45.42 | alestane | Ghoul leap is targeted, though, isn't it? |
| 23:45.52 | alestane | |pez|: Why move? |
| 23:45.58 | NightHawkTheSane | alestane: i think so |
| 23:45.58 | bleetyarrr | kitty leap always landed be about 7 yards away from the target :/ |
| 23:46.07 | |pez| | alestane: cause my appartment is like... reallysmall. |
| 23:46.25 | alestane | Ah. Not move to a different region, just a different residence. |
| 23:46.31 | |pez| | Yes ^^ |
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| 23:49.46 | Esamynn | anyone an engineer with one of the engineering flying mounts on the beta? |
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| 23:52.46 | Esamynn | I'm wondering if after you learn a profession specific mount, do you still need the profession in order to use it? |
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