IRC log for #wowuidev on 20080915

`00:00.08`	`Cairenn`	`lol`
`00:01.12`	`Shirik`	`I'm actually not sure if it's a male or a female`
`00:01.21`	`Shirik`	`someone said it's pronounced "she-bot" so it must be a female`
`00:01.26`	`Sixen`	`Hehe`
`00:01.46`	`kd3`	`whee... exactly 60% done with the wintersaber grind`
`00:01.52`	`Sixen`	`Nice, =P.`
`00:02.00`	`Sixen`	`Current PTR Page count: 35`
`00:02.14`	`kd3`	`not even gonna bother til tomorrow`
`00:02.26`	`Sixen`	`Same`
`00:05.27`	`Thordurin`	`hmmm`
`00:05.33`	`Sargeras`	`there`
`00:05.45`	`Sargeras`	`hallos`
`00:05.50`	`Dewin`	`Hmm... at the rate my wow folder is duplicating itself, my 4 day wait for PTR copy might finish before I can install the client`
`00:05.53`	`Sargeras`	`my countdown for BC begins`
`00:05.54`	`Cairenn`	`hey :)`
`00:06.22`	`Cairenn`	`speaking of your countdown for BC .... http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17443`
`00:06.35`	`Cairenn`	`you no luv us no more? not having supper with us?`
`00:06.48`	`*** part/#wowuidev Karrion (n=kieron@corp-gw01.imrworldwide.com)`
`00:07.02`	`Sargeras`	`?`
`00:07.04`	`Sargeras`	`ohhhh`
`00:07.07`	`Cairenn`	`yeah`
`00:07.10`	`Cairenn`	`duh :p`
`00:07.52`	`Cairenn`	`;-)`
`00:07.53`	`Sargeras`	`hmmm`
`00:08.12`	`Sargeras`	`did kud say what was up for this birthday?`
`00:08.14`	`Fisker-`	`you're ruining my sleep`
`00:08.22`	`Cairenn`	`Fisker-: awwww`
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`00:08.50`	`Cairenn`	`Sargeras: I thought we were talking about doing supper on sunday with just us?`
`00:09.15`	`Sargeras`	`was that final?`
`00:09.29`	`Cairenn`	`dunno, but that seems to be the current plan`
`00:09.37`	`Sargeras`	`hmmm ok`
`00:10.33`	`Cairenn`	`so (whoever all of us) will be at disney through the day, duck out to downtown disney or something for supper, then catch back up to whoever else for a few more hours until the park closes`
`00:10.50`	`Cairenn`	`that's the tentative plan`
`00:10.56`	`Sargeras`	`okird`
`00:10.58`	`Sargeras`	`errr`
`00:10.59`	`Sargeras`	`okies`
`00:11.37`	`Cairenn`	`I still have two other things that I'd really love to get the time to do sometime when I'm out there, but just too many other demands on my time =/`
`00:11.42`	`Tem`	`okay that was awesome`
`00:11.46`	`Tem`	`I just got paid to make someone a ring`
`00:11.59`	`Tem`	`I didn't advertise that I could make said ring`
`00:12.01`	`Tem`	`people found me`
`00:18.08`	`Syzgyn`	`I love how blizzard doesnt use half their own API stuff for the achievement frame`
`00:19.21`	`ScytheBlade1`	`er?`
`00:19.48`	`Syzgyn`	`well I think its funny at least`
`00:20.03`	`Syzgyn`	`but it means I can do stuff they're not currently doing :P`
`00:20.09`	`ScytheBlade1`	`oh`
`00:20.10`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Like what?`
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`00:21.07`	`Syzgyn`	`If I wanna compare achievements with someone`
`00:21.27`	`Syzgyn`	`I can see specificall what criteria they've completed or not`
`00:21.32`	`Syzgyn`	`not just if they've done the achievement`
`00:21.38`	`Syzgyn`	`specifically*`
`00:22.15`	`Syzgyn`	`Theres also a call to get the name, level, class, and race of your current comparison`
`00:25.58`	`*** join/#wowuidev Shirik (n=skullsho@conspiracy/developer/Shirik)`
`00:25.58`	`*** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ`
`00:27.22`	`Shirik`	`so strange`
`00:27.53`	`Syzgyn`	`We've know you're strange for a while now`
`00:28.22`	`Shirik`	`stupid brighthouse`
`00:28.25`	`*** join/#wowuidev Shiibot (n=Shiibot@83.120.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com)`
`00:28.25`	`*** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shiibot] by ChanServ`
`00:28.36`	`Syzgyn`	`Shiibot?`
`00:29.46`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I really hate formatting stuff in java`
`00:29.47`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Hate hate hate`
`00:33.21`	`Shirik`	`Syzgyn, yes Shiibot :)`
`00:33.37`	`Shirik`	`ScytheBlade1: It's better in Java than some other languages`
`00:33.55`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Don't make it any less annoying :/`
`00:34.04`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I mean, it's great that such a thing exists`
`00:34.16`	`ScytheBlade1`	`And he goes poof again`
`00:34.38`	`*** join/#wowuidev Shirik (n=skullsho@conspiracy/developer/Shirik)`
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`00:35.14`	`Shirik`	`ok`
`00:35.16`	`Shirik`	`this is geting stupid`
`00:35.29`	`ScytheBlade1`	`getting? I was trying to complain and you went poof!`
`00:35.40`	`Shirik`	`I saw your complaint, don'tw orry`
`00:35.55`	`Shirik`	`:ScytheBlade1!n=Death@about/pxe/ScytheBlade1 PRIVMSG #WoWUIDev :+And he goes poof again`
`00:36.04`	`ScytheBlade1`	`lol`
`00:36.08`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I forgot about that`
`00:36.42`	`Shirik`	`it's confusing me though because I'm DCing from WoW, Vent, and mIRC`
`00:36.44`	`Shirik`	`but the bot stays on`
`00:40.02`	`steev`	`damn`
`00:40.10`	`steev`	`youtube said it couldn't convert my video`
`00:40.31`	`Syzgyn`	`So whats this bot do Shirik?`
`00:40.45`	`Shirik`	`performs magic`
`00:41.02`	`ScytheBlade1`	`kicks people out of the channel at random`
`00:41.02`	`Shirik`	`there were a few hints I think :)`
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`00:41.03`	`Syzgyn`	`Ooooh Aaah`
`00:41.23`	`ScytheBlade1`	`This way he can boot people and say "but the bot did it! Sorry, I'll try and fix it.."`
`00:41.28`	`Syzgyn`	`haha`
`00:41.31`	`ScytheBlade1`	`And never fix it because it isn't broke`
`00:41.42`	`Syzgyn`	`Its Foolproof!`
`00:41.45`	`Unregistered`	`is thottbot down for everyone else?`
`00:41.56`	`Shirik`	`lol, no ScytheBlade1 :)`
`00:42.19`	`Shirik`	`however, it does have operator privilieges for a reason`
`00:42.29`	`ScytheBlade1`	`20:41 < ScytheBlade1> kicks people out of the channel at random`
`00:42.31`	`ScytheBlade1`	`^`
`00:42.39`	`Shirik`	`(20:41:24) (@Shirik) lol, no ScytheBlade1 :)`
`00:42.39`	`Shirik`	`^`
`00:42.41`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Or rather`
`00:42.42`	`ScytheBlade1`	`20:41 < ScytheBlade1> kicks people out of the channel at random`
`00:42.45`	`ScytheBlade1`	`s/people/me/`
`00:42.55`	`*** join/#wowuidev WobWork (n=Wobin@203-206-178-228.perm.iinet.net.au)`
`00:43.25`	`Syzgyn`	`poof!`
`00:43.36`	`Shirik`	`the bot will never ban a user, the bot will never kick a user`
`00:43.42`	`ScytheBlade1`	`what`
`00:43.45`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Now I'm disappointed`
`00:43.47`	`Syzgyn`	`aw, no fun`
`00:44.23`	`Shirik`	`The only operator-level command it knows is MODE, and it only knows about one specific mode`
`00:44.34`	`JoshBorke`	`~lart shirik`
`00:44.34`	`purl`	`resizes shirik's terminal to 40x24`
`00:44.36`	`Syzgyn`	`Make a bot that kicks a user if the sum of the characters of someones message is a multiple of the sum of the chars of someones name`
`00:44.39`	`Shirik`	`That should be enough hints :)`
`00:44.51`	`Shirik`	`look around when he was given first op on this channel`
`00:44.53`	`JoshBorke`	`oh gee, i don't know, mode +r`
`00:45.06`	`Shirik`	`ScytheBlade1, Josh_Borke beat you`
`00:45.08`	`Shirik`	`that's pretty bad`
`00:45.16`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I've known for a bit :P`
`00:45.24`	`Shirik`	`lies`
`00:45.28`	`ScytheBlade1`	`No lies`
`00:45.37`	`JoshBorke`	`~failrik`
`00:45.38`	`purl`	`FAIL, Shirik, FAIL!`
`00:45.41`	`ScytheBlade1`	`you mentioned it shortly after cair said that she'd like to just keep the channel +r all the time`
`00:45.47`	`JoshBorke`	`did you figure out your newline problem shirik?`
`00:45.47`	`Shirik`	`I did?`
`00:45.48`	`ScytheBlade1`	`To which you replied that you were working on something`
`00:45.53`	`Shirik`	`oh :`
`00:45.54`	`Shirik`	`:(`
`00:46.14`	`Shirik`	`Yeah, seems newlines are \r\n`
`00:46.16`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I've known it for a bit ;)`
`00:46.20`	`ScytheBlade1`	`And then - then!`
`00:46.24`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Your bot was giving people scores`
`00:46.29`	`Shirik`	`:)`
`00:46.30`	`ScytheBlade1`	`It was pretty obvious :P`
`00:47.14`	`Shirik`	`I suck at sekrets :(`
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`00:48.02`	`Arrowmaster`	`Shirik: teach it more than just +r since +r only prevents people from joining, not those already in the channel from speaking`
`00:48.21`	`Shirik`	`I'm fairly certain +r also does +R`
`00:48.25`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Arrowmaster: I'm pretty sure the idea of Shirik teaching bots scares me, let's not push things`
`00:48.31`	`Cairenn`	`heh`
`00:48.32`	`Arrowmaster`	`it doesnt`
`00:48.38`	`Shirik`	`that's stupid`
`00:48.44`	`Shirik`	`It's a minor change though`
`00:49.02`	`*** mode/#WoWUIDev [+r] by Shirik`
`00:49.10`	`*** mode/#WoWUIDev [-o Shirik] by Shirik`
`00:49.18`	`Shirik`	`test`
`00:49.24`	`Shirik`	`booo`
`00:49.25`	`[dRaCo]`	`failed`
`00:49.28`	`Shirik`	`ok then`
`00:49.31`	`*** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ`
`00:50.13`	`Shirik`	`!quit`
`00:50.33`	`*** join/#wowuidev Shiibot (n=Shiibot@83.120.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com)`
`00:50.33`	`*** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shiibot] by ChanServ`
`00:50.48`	`ScytheBlade1`	`!quit`
`00:50.52`	`ScytheBlade1`	`lol`
`00:50.58`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Not quite who I was hoping for haha`
`00:51.12`	`[dRaCo]`	`interesting effect, though`
`00:51.20`	`ScytheBlade1`	`indeed`
`00:51.23`	`Shirik`	`that's awesome`
`00:51.26`	`Shirik`	`almost bashable`
`00:53.28`	`JoshBorke`	`!quit`
`00:53.36`	`Shirik\|Ecole`	`!quit`
`00:53.54`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Totally worth a shot`
`00:54.00`	`Shirik`	`ok it does +rR now`
`00:54.10`	`JoshBorke`	`guess not`
`00:54.18`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Points for effort`
`00:54.24`	`JoshBorke`	`meh`
`00:54.24`	`Shirik`	`not a nick check :)`
`00:54.35`	`Shirik`	`it also uses CAPAB IDENTIFY-MSG`
`00:55.12`	`cbreak`	`:wq`
`00:55.14`	`JoshBorke`	`yea yea, whatever`
`00:55.37`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Shirik: just lock it to your hostmask`
`00:55.45`	`Shirik`	`I did :)`
`00:57.54`	`Shirik`	`brighthouse I hate you sooooooooooo MUCH`
`00:58.09`	`Shirik`	`It's very good at making me DC right before boss fights`
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`01:06.48`	`Duman`	`northrend up yet?`
`01:07.31`	`ccox`	`right now I can't log into any of the 3 beta servers - they either hang or crash the client`
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`01:12.22`	`Anaral`	`I can get on lich king, but that's it.`
`01:13.14`	`smcn`	`northrend world server is down on northrend`
`01:13.26`	`smcn`	`has been for hours`
`01:15.38`	`smcn`	`hopefully maintenance/new build is early tomorrow... :P`
`01:15.41`	`smcn`	`if ther eis one`
`01:15.47`	`Gnarfoz`	`anyone know if this is still needed? http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8649-LinkBugFixer.html (on 2.4.3 live)`
`01:16.38`	`Syzgyn`	`Nope, gems and enchants are staying intact`
`01:16.39`	`Anaral`	`I think WoW is encouraging premades to visit a barber: http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2554/wowscrnshot091408211550cb8.jpg`
`01:18.18`	`Syzgyn`	`_`
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`01:21.36`	`kd3`	`whee, medivh just broke`
`01:25.36`	`kd3`	`and 2/3 of my guild just logged. BT crashed`
`01:26.11`	`Sixen`	`=x`
`01:26.57`	`Syzgyn`	`BT just lagged out for us`
`01:27.05`	`Syzgyn`	`Kel'Thuzad going down`
`01:27.40`	`smcn`	`it's spreading!`
`01:28.18`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Nooo`
`01:28.23`	`ScytheBlade1`	`That's my battlegroup :(`
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`01:29.29`	`Syzgyn`	`Nightfall too k3d?`
`01:29.29`	`Syzgyn`	`s/k3d/kd3/`
`01:29.38`	`kd3`	`medivh's in ruin`
`01:29.44`	`Syzgyn`	`Ah`
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`01:30.27`	`smcn`	`Blizzard sunk my Battlegroup!`
`01:30.44`	`Arrowmaster`	`i almost got to say "afk tornado"`
`01:30.53`	`Syzgyn`	`lol`
`01:31.04`	`Arrowmaster`	`fucking siren was going off`
`01:31.15`	`steev`	`gotta leave the ptr to do za sigh`
`01:31.20`	`[dRaCo]`	`but it was just the germans bombing?`
`01:31.37`	`Syzgyn`	`Back online`
`01:34.11`	`Syzgyn`	`I spoke too soon, lagging again`
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`01:37.39`	`Fisker-`	`kd3 my friend`
`01:37.49`	`kd3`	`hm?`
`01:37.53`	`Fisker-`	`does the US PTR client say "E-mail address" or "Accountname"?`
`01:38.03`	`kd3`	`account`
`01:38.07`	`Fisker-`	`>:3`
`01:38.10`	`kd3`	`hell, so does beta in this build`
`01:38.19`	`Fisker-`	`do not want`
`01:43.13`	`cbreak`	`why should it want an e-mail address?`
`01:43.23`	`kd3`	`that's how beta works atm`
`01:43.25`	`cbreak`	`not like it will converse with you`
`01:43.47`	`cbreak`	`I use the same account name and pw as in live on beta`
`01:45.19`	`*** mode/#WoWUIDev [-rf] by Shirik`
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`01:47.03`	`Gnarfoz`	`cbreak: sigh`
`01:47.17`	`Arrowmaster`	`so cable modem + router + laptop + little like 20 inch TV > 300 watts`
`01:47.23`	`Gnarfoz`	`US beta takes "temporary blizzard accounts" (identified by email address), EU beta takes account names`
`01:47.57`	`cbreak`	`for what purpose was this indirection created?`
`01:48.03`	`cbreak`	`possibly unified game accounts?`
`01:48.04`	`kd3`	`testing for wrath going live`
`01:48.15`	`ccox`	`if anyone is seeing crashes of the Wow beta client upon login -- disable wowhead looter`
`01:48.45`	`Tem`	`gah that sucks`
`01:48.49`	`Tem`	`15% wipe on Illidan`
`01:48.58`	`Sixen`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muLIPWjks_M <--- Made of win!`
`01:48.59`	`Shirik`	`~fail Tem`
`01:49.03`	`purl`	`Tem, you Fail!`
`01:49.18`	`Tem`	`Agonizing flames + shadow fiends on one person = ow`
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`01:49.40`	`Sixen`	`~pass sixen`
`01:49.40`	`Sixen`	`;)`
`01:49.59`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Okay`
`01:50.05`	`ScytheBlade1`	`awesome whine about ret on PTR forums`
`01:50.06`	`ScytheBlade1`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=839AD2BEEDC08214CE0A0AB108DA0183.app05_07?topicId=9957007939&sid=1`
`01:50.14`	`ScytheBlade1`	`That is so worth reading`
`01:50.46`	`cbreak`	`that cat is quite skilled.`
`01:51.12`	`Sixen`	`;)`
`01:51.25`	`Sixen`	`sbo, i'm scared of the PTR Forums for the first time in along time.`
`01:51.36`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Click that link.`
`01:51.38`	`ScytheBlade1`	`You'l enjoy it.`
`01:51.57`	`Sixen`	`40 pages in 26 hours.`
`01:51.59`	`Sixen`	`And I lol'd.`
`01:52.24`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I'm waiting for ASCII art of Heath Ledger asking "WHY SO SERIOUS?"`
`01:52.26`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Like`
`01:52.30`	`ScytheBlade1`	`It WILL happen`
`01:52.40`	`[dRaCo]`	`give. now.`
`01:53.13`	`Gnarfoz`	`ScytheBlade1: how's a 6 post thread interesting oO`
`01:53.15`	`Sixen`	`lol`
`01:53.38`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Gnarfoz: you totally missed it`
`01:53.48`	`Gnarfoz`	`missed what`
`01:54.06`	`Gnarfoz`	`(also, blizz forums suck, but that's nothing new - why do people keep reading them?)`
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`01:57.20`	`Dewin`	`hmm`
`01:57.29`	`Dewin`	`WoW-3.0.2.8916-to->>0.0.2.8926<<-enUS-patch.exe`
`01:57.35`	`Dewin`	`isn't that more of a downgrade? from 3.0.2 to 0.0.2?`
`01:57.46`	`kd3`	`PTRs always start with a leading 0`
`01:57.53`	`Dewin`	`ah.`
`01:58.03`	`Dewin`	`any idea why?`
`01:58.10`	`Shirik`	`It's pretty standard`
`01:58.12`	`kd3`	`so QA can tell builds apart`
`01:58.17`	`Dewin`	`gotcha.`
`01:58.24`	`Dewin`	`I'd be think it'd just have PTR in the name somewhere`
`01:58.33`	`cbreak`	`they should use sha1s`
`01:58.45`	`Shirik`	`...`
`01:58.45`	`Sixen`	`heh`
`01:58.49`	`Shirik`	`no git ty`
`02:01.19`	`Dewin`	`annoyed that he had to do the PTR install 3 times, sort of`
`02:01.38`	`Dewin`	`Last time I PTR'd was back in WoW 1.x, when you had to manually copy the folder and install a patch.`
`02:01.38`	`Gnarfoz`	`they should use sha512's because sha1's have had proven collisions, yay! upgrade git nao! :P`
`02:01.40`	`Dewin`	`so I did that`
`02:01.50`	`Dewin`	`then the updater died midway through`
`02:01.52`	`Gnarfoz`	`even that had 0.x at the front, back then ;p`
`02:02.50`	`Dewin`	`not what I'm referring to. They made PTR too easysauce and I didn't know it until I tried to do it the hard way`
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`02:11.56`	`Duman`	`sigh`
`02:12.13`	`Duman`	`I want to play in northrend :(`
`02:12.25`	`Duman`	`there is soething jacked with this build, tho`
`02:12.29`	`Duman`	`PTR is constantly crashing, too`
`02:12.36`	`Duman`	`(or so my friend tells me, since I can't get on)`
`02:14.16`	`smcn`	`cross fingers for early-morning build`
`02:20.21`	`Dewin`	`I can get into the PVP realm but PVE was down`
`02:20.59`	`Gnarfoz`	`so, apparently, having a config.wtf in \wow\ makes it write to the real one (\wow\wtf\) but read the other one. fun tiems. :X`
`02:22.01`	`Arrowmaster`	`Gnarfoz: i have a C:\Logs\ dir that is shared with the name Logs that the launcher sometimes writes its log files to`
`02:22.01`	`Dewin`	`wow. I can imagine that being a pain to debug`
`02:22.34`	`Gnarfoz`	`Arrowmaster: hamachi does that, for example :X (C:\Logs\)`
`02:23.00`	`Gnarfoz`	`Dewin: yes, and I kept wondering why the hell settings didn't stick ;D (and it would always show my shaman on the char select screen)`
`02:23.16`	`Dewin`	`Hheh, I need to fix that.`
`02:23.31`	`Dewin`	`My new horde alt is on a server where I pretty much raided all of my old horde alts, including vendoring all of their gear`
`02:23.44`	`Dewin`	`so the moment I change servers, I am immediately confronted with a naked orc.`
`02:23.51`	`Dewin`	`do not need to see that...`
`02:25.19`	`Dewin`	`wow, I can see that fixing all of my addons is going to be a long and arduous processs`
`02:26.22`	`Dewin`	`Doesn't wowinterface have an addon updater?`
`02:27.45`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`yes`
`02:28.22`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`So... how bad is the 3.0.2 qq?`
`02:28.36`	`Dewin`	`Well.`
`02:28.41`	`Dewin`	`My addons blew up`
`02:28.46`	`Dewin`	`PVE server was down when I tried`
`02:28.53`	`Dewin`	`so now I'm "Lookapriest" lv1 belf priest.`
`02:28.58`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`to be fair, many addons blow up in 3.0`
`02:29.05`	`Dewin`	`I expected it.`
`02:29.20`	`Dewin`	`My personal PTR goal is to get my ui reconstructed`
`02:30.24`	`Dewin`	`and... somehow find a good replacement for infinibar, but I can't do that until my character copy finishes`
`02:30.34`	`Gnarfoz`	`Neuro_Medivh: not that many, actually oO`
`02:32.02`	`Dewin`	`hmm someone on wowi has my name`
`02:33.01`	`Dewin`	`oh well`
`02:33.14`	`Dolby`	`i can release it for you`
`02:33.21`	`Dolby`	`hasnt been logged in to for 4yrs`
`02:33.52`	`Dolby`	`oh wait nvm is an author`
`02:33.57`	`Dolby`	`cant`
`02:34.33`	`Dolby`	`hmmm has no files though`
`02:35.00`	`Dewin`	`It might be me, I was going to make addons once upon a time lol`
`02:35.16`	`Dewin`	`can you give me a tiny part of the email address? I can probably tell if it is if that's the case`
`02:35.29`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`there's an 'e' in the email.. that you?`
`02:35.47`	`Dewin`	`lol, that's not quite enough. lol.`
`02:36.01`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`ok.. there's also an @ symbol, that should narrow it down`
`02:36.09`	`Dolby`	`and a .`
`02:36.30`	`Dewin`	`lol`
`02:36.38`	`Dolby`	`you can register dewin`
`02:37.23`	`Dolby`	`better get it fast before some one else here registers it and then trys to sell it back to you`
`02:37.30`	`Dewin`	`I'm working on it ol`
`02:38.44`	`Dewin`	`of course I had already registered with my alternate username instead so meh`
`02:39.00`	`Dolby`	`well i can rename if you rather`
`02:39.17`	`Dewin`	`dewiniaid->dewin sure ;)`
`02:39.27`	`smcn`	`too late, paypal me $500`
`02:39.40`	`Dolby`	`lol`
`02:39.42`	`Dolby`	`renamed`
`02:39.46`	`Dewin`	`sure smcn, do you take monopoly$?`
`02:39.49`	`smcn`	`my email has an "e" and a "@" in it, i'll let you figure it out`
`02:40.07`	`Dewin`	`smcn@eeeeee.eu?`
`02:40.27`	`smcn`	`off by 1 letter`
`02:40.31`	`Dolby`	`mine has a .com`
`02:40.39`	`smcn`	`it's actually smcn#eeeeee.eu, i lied about the @`
`02:41.28`	`Dewin`	`ah. Mine's !bigsite!foovax!barbox!me`
`02:41.49`	`wereHamster`	`wtf, eeeeee.eu actually exists`
`02:42.11`	`Dolby`	`wow`
`02:42.36`	`smcn`	`thatsgross@eeeeee.eu`
`02:42.40`	`smcn`	`see what i did there`
`02:43.36`	`Dewin`	`were: lol, I just made it up.`
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`02:58.29`	`Syzgyn`	`Illidan Down!`
`02:59.02`	`Cairenn`	`congrats`
`02:59.04`	`Jamash`	`grats`
`02:59.13`	`[dRaCo]`	`gratz, nice loot?`
`02:59.59`	`Syzgyn`	`Cursed vision, memento, one of each chest`
`03:00.04`	`Syzgyn`	`Pretty good :)`
`03:00.58`	`[dRaCo]`	`nice stuff`
`03:01.29`	`[dRaCo]`	`I mean, really good stuff. my rogues would kill for cursed vision :>`
`03:04.35`	`Duman`	`oof`
`03:04.51`	`Duman`	`murmur was running on for a little`
`03:04.54`	`Duman`	`s/on/ok/`
`03:09.26`	`Arrowmaster`	`theres no way of passing clicks through a clickable frame is there? like checking something on PreClick and making it go through to the frame behind it unless a certain condition is met?`
`03:09.39`	`ScytheBlade1`	`That'd be abusable`
`03:09.56`	`Arrowmaster`	`not really`
`03:10.35`	`Arrowmaster`	`not wanting to do it in combat or anything`
`03:10.35`	`WobWork`	`sure it would be`
`03:10.53`	`WobWork`	`dynamically clickable frames for decursing =P`
`03:11.12`	`Arrowmaster`	`didnt say i wanted to do it during lockdown`
`03:11.46`	`Shirik`	`Dewin: at work, that's how our email addresses were >.>`
`03:12.16`	`Arrowmaster`	`too bad i cant test anything since im on a shitty laptop, was wondering what would happen if you did something like hid the frame or made it not clickable during the PreClick`
`03:12.16`	`Shirik`	`//B&S/Engineering/Matthew Del Buono`
`03:12.21`	`Shirik`	`no actual address to that`
`03:14.58`	`Shirik\|AFK`	`Food time!`
`03:15.13`	`Shirik\|AFK`	`wendy's?`
`03:16.36`	`WobWork`	`yuck`
`03:16.39`	`WobWork`	`but yes`
`03:16.42`	`WobWork`	`I need lunch`
`03:16.44`	`WobWork`	`hm`
`03:17.21`	`Syzgyn`	`nomnom`
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`03:21.50`	`Tem`	`holy wow illidan is a crazy fight`
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`03:28.05`	`Sixen1`	`sigh`
`03:28.08`	`Sixen1`	`Why can't I ghost Sixen`
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`03:29.00`	`Dewin`	`What are people's favorite action bar addons in WOTLK so far?`
`03:30.56`	`ScytheBlade1`	`The one included with the game`
`03:31.06`	`Dewin`	`lol.`
`03:31.13`	`Dewin`	`Good answer, but not the one I'd like to hear ;)`
`03:31.38`	`Dewin`	`I am so going to write a universal addon updater sometime in the near future >.>`
`03:38.00`	`Syzgyn`	`Dewin: I've been quite happy with Dominos`
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`03:43.00`	`Dewin`	`I might give it a try later.`
`03:43.37`	`Dewin`	`I'm done dabbling in PTR for now`
`03:43.43`	`Cide`	`hi`
`03:43.45`	`Dewin`	`the new graphics updates are nice`
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`03:57.50`	`Shirik`	`nooooooooooooooooooooooo`
`03:57.58`	`Shirik`	`I was so close to beating our resto shaman in heals today :(`
`03:58.01`	`Shirik`	`50k away...`
`03:59.30`	`Shirik`	`fricking gorefiend picked me first`
`03:59.34`	`Shirik`	`if it wasn't for that I'd have had him`
`04:00.43`	`Cide`	`all I hear is QQ`
`04:00.53`	`Shirik`	`u can die 2 ty`
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`04:01.01`	`Cide`	`no, you.`
`04:01.05`	`Shirik`	`:(`
`04:01.13`	`Shirik`	`nou`
`04:01.15`	`Shirik`	`!nou`
`04:01.20`	`Shirik`	`batbot: nou`
`04:01.24`	`Shirik`	`hm`
`04:01.28`	`Shirik`	`I forget how to trigger that`
`04:01.35`	`Shirik`	`batbot: no u`
`04:01.56`	`smcn`	`Shirik, just tell yourself that if he got ghosted he would have wiped the raid ;P`
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`04:10.58`	`WobWork`	`om nomnomnom`
`04:13.57`	`Shirik`	`can you level to 80 on beta?`
`04:15.09`	`smcn`	`yes`
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`04:15.33`	`smcn`	`it's always funny when new testers proclaim matter-of-factly that 77 is the cap`
`04:15.45`	`Jamash`	`it doesn't help that the patch notes still say that`
`04:17.19`	`Dewin`	`smcn: If they proclaim 77 is the cap, just tell them to /who 80 to see all of the cheaters.`
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`04:17.53`	`smcn`	`well, i usually only see it when i'm in BT/HF and haven't /leave general yet`
`04:17.55`	`smcn`	`:P`
`04:19.32`	`Duman`	`err hmm`
`04:19.42`	`Duman`	`what was the /script to leave a siege vehicle?`
`04:23.55`	`WobWork`	`LeaveVehicle() ?`
`04:24.47`	`Shirik`	`night all`
`04:24.57`	`Shirik\|zZz`	`I leave you in the loving hands of Shiibot`
`04:25.04`	`Shirik\|zZz`	`and Cairenn, who should be asleep too but she isn't`
`04:25.06`	`WobWork`	`Shiibot: help`
`04:25.23`	`Cairenn`	`night Shirik\|zZz, sweet dreams`
`04:25.47`	`WobWork`	`Shiibot is no help =(`
`04:27.36`	`Shirik\|zZz`	`Shiibot is the silent protector :)`
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`04:27.58`	`WobWork`	`silent but deadly?`
`04:28.10`	`haste`	`selfish shiibot is selfish`
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`04:28.39`	`kromar`	`hi`
`04:28.43`	`Cairenn`	`hi`
`04:28.45`	`haste`	`hi`
`04:29.45`	`kromar`	`how is that with the combat log and spellID? has a spell a fix id, for example earth shock would always be 2304 or so?`
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`04:32.21`	`ScytheBlade1`	`lol`
`04:32.22`	`ScytheBlade1`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9956207927&sid=1#8`
`04:34.19`	`haste`	`kromar: every spell have a fixed spellid`
`04:34.39`	`kromar`	`thx`
`04:35.08`	`Syzgyn`	`Speaking of the combat log, is there some thread with the changes they made to COMBAT_LOG_UNFILTERED in the beta?`
`04:35.38`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Syzgyn: the 3.0 changes thread?`
`04:36.17`	`Syzgyn`	`That required me to have to look through it for the right post :P`
`04:36.27`	`ScytheBlade1`	`;)`
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`04:37.06`	`smcn`	`wowhead.com`
`04:37.14`	`smcn`	`november 13`
`04:37.16`	`smcn`	`wao`
`04:39.11`	`smcn`	`http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/09/15/wrath-release-date-announced/`
`04:39.15`	`Syzgyn`	`Oooh`
`04:40.03`	`smcn`	`if they stick to it that means i don't have to buy my mom a birthday present. i'm a horrible son`
`04:40.40`	`Syzgyn`	`Hmmm, how come theres nothing official on blizz's site?`
`04:42.43`	`smcn`	`no clue, but it says on that wowinsider link "I can't find any official confirmation of this date, but Skosiris (Wowhead's lead developer) confirmed that this is a legitimate advertisement from Blizzard."`
`04:43.14`	`smcn`	`certainly looks official :P`
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`04:43.37`	`smcn`	`funny though that wotlk.wowhead.com doesn't have the graphic :P`
`04:43.52`	`ScytheBlade1`	`If you notice the wowhead background image`
`04:43.57`	`ScytheBlade1`	`It's clickable and points to http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/`
`04:44.08`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Which... has nothing about a date on it`
`04:44.13`	`smcn`	`oh`
`04:44.21`	`smcn`	`eh, it's sunday`
`04:44.21`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Hmm`
`04:44.25`	`smcn`	`i'm sure it'll come out tomorrow`
`04:44.27`	`smcn`	`the news that is`
`04:44.46`	`Diao`	`so no CE?`
`04:44.55`	`Corrodias`	`my replay of FEAR is fun, but more and more it is making me wish i was playing HL2`
`04:44.57`	`Diao`	`:p`
`04:45.07`	`Diao`	`or maybe the CE announcement will come out after`
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`04:49.28`	`Corrodias`	`i just wish the g-man would come out with a projected release date for hl2:ep3 so i could plan my replay of the first few to set me up for it at just the right time`
`04:52.48`	`WobWork`	`cause there's nothing worse than all that build up only to not quite make the release on time`
`04:53.04`	`smcn`	`i kind of fell into halflife 2 after playing portal, loved it and never even really liked fps or horror games :P`
`04:53.19`	`smcn`	`but yeah i can't wait for ep3`
`04:53.48`	`smcn`	`is the story in the original half-life as good as hl2?`
`04:53.57`	`Corrodias`	`somehow, despite MOSTLY seeming like blandness, hl2, ep1, and ep2 managed to keep my interest long enough that i played them all in a row`
`04:54.03`	`Corrodias`	`that's, like, unprecedented (outside WoW)`
`04:54.22`	`Corrodias`	`they had some quality about them, i always wanted to see more`
`04:54.32`	`Cide`	`FEAR still scares the crap out of me.`
`04:54.45`	`Corrodias`	`well, it's hard to say exactly, but looking back at HL1 i don't see much of a story`
`04:55.22`	`Corrodias`	`yet maybe it's because i'm not in the middle of it, playing it`
`04:55.38`	`smcn`	`i hope to see the g-man character develop, definitely my favorite character.. the whole story kind of reminds me of lost`
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`04:55.51`	`Corrodias`	`Cide: i find the more i THINK about the story of FEAR, having played it before and knowing it all, the less i enjoy it. so i should just stop thinking about it. :\|`
`04:56.11`	`smcn`	`as in there's mystery surrounding everything`
`04:56.54`	`Wob`	`arggg`
`04:56.57`	`Corrodias`	`as an example of HL1 having a somewhat skimpy story, i don't recall it ever explaining what the final boss was about`
`04:56.59`	`Wob`	`I -hate- how someone keeps trying to use my nick`
`04:57.04`	`smcn`	`g-man has an obvious connection to the crows throughout the game but the way he speaks it seems like he's trying to give you hints as to who or what he is`
`04:57.13`	`Corrodias`	`just suddenly, there you were fighting the last boss, and then it was over and you had no idea what was going on`
`04:57.14`	`Wob`	`means I have to disconnect if I want to change to it`
`04:57.19`	`smcn`	`Corrodias: yeah that's what i figured`
`04:57.52`	`Corrodias`	`i learned more about the HL1 story by reading wikipedia than i ever did by playing the game`
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`04:58.01`	`Corrodias`	`or maybe it was some fan site`
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`05:00.30`	`Wobin`	`goddamn that other Wobin`
`05:00.58`	`haste`	`:-(`
`05:01.25`	`Wobin`	`My nickname! I registered it!`
`05:01.31`	`Syzgyn`	`So if the wowhead release date is accurate, and they follow the timeline they did for BC, that means 3.0 patch hits... Oct 6?`
`05:01.43`	`Thunder_Child`	`Wobin, just now?`
`05:02.20`	`Wobin`	`Thunder_Child: no, two years, 16 weeks and 2 days ago`
`05:02.32`	`Thunder_Child`	`~lart Wobin`
`05:02.32`	`purl`	`beats Wobin senseless with a 50lb Unix manual`
`05:03.28`	`Wobin`	`~lart Thunder_Child`
`05:03.28`	`purl`	`does a little 'renice 20 -u Thunder_Child'`
`05:04.04`	`Wobin`	`since you only registered your nick 1 year, 43 weeks and 1 day ago =P`
`05:04.24`	`haste`	`how do you check that? \:D/`
`05:04.35`	`Wobin`	`msg nickserv info <nick>`
`05:05.00`	`haste`	`hah, I beat you!`
`05:05.06`	`Wobin`	`s'true`
`05:05.27`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Registered : Mar 03 05:37:47 2004 (4 years, 28 weeks, 0 days, 23:27:25 ago)`
`05:05.29`	`ScytheBlade1`	`:P`
`05:05.33`	`haste`	`hacks :(`
`05:05.37`	`ScytheBlade1`	`And there are people here who can beat me by a lot too`
`05:05.40`	`smcn`	`or just ns info`
`05:05.42`	`smcn`	`:P`
`05:05.58`	`smcn`	`i should go on espernet and see when i registered there`
`05:05.58`	`haste`	`irssi doesnt' send such commands by default smcn`
`05:06.07`	`Celoril`	`A few days ago I paid someone to fix a guild bank addon for me.. but forget who it was! If it was you or you know who it was, please pm me :P`
`05:06.09`	`Wobin`	`nor xchat`
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`05:10.19`	`WobWork`	`hm, hates wireless here, preciiuosss`
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`05:21.16`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`blargh`
`05:21.34`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`okay. 40oz of 'old english' beer was not.. i repeat.. not.. th best idea i've ever had.,`
`05:22.02`	`Corrodias`	`heheh`
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`05:23.49`	`Syzgyn`	`haha`
`05:28.08`	`Cairenn`	`you guys know the date for WotLK was announced?`
`05:28.13`	`Cairenn`	`13 Nov`
`05:28.16`	`Cairenn`	`http://www.wowhead.com`
`05:28.21`	`smcn`	`months behind`
`05:28.23`	`smcn`	`;P`
`05:28.23`	`Wobin`	`aye`
`05:28.34`	`Cairenn`	`I meant officially :p`
`05:28.38`	`Wobin`	`I'm considering taking some time off beginning of December =P`
`05:28.45`	`Wobin`	`after the first rush of deathknights`
`05:29.16`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`13 nov? bleh.`
`05:29.38`	`Diao`	`they were talking about it about an hour ago`
`05:29.40`	`Diao`	`or so`
`05:29.56`	`Diao`	`waiting for the CE announcement so i can order mine`
`05:30.00`	`Diao`	`if they have one`
`05:30.45`	`Wobin`	`NightHawkTheSane: you really want to take time off so close to release date?`
`05:30.47`	`Wobin`	`I'm going to wait til all the server crashes and hotfixes are done =P`
`05:30.50`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Wobin: i said 'considers''`
`05:31.01`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`shrug`
`05:31.29`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`mostly im just irked it's not /after/ new years, as i probably will be at my mom's for christmas/new years, without access to wow :(`
`05:31.30`	`smcn`	`i took the first 2 days of BC launch off, i don't remember any hassle`
`05:31.46`	`smcn`	`i mean, even the initial launch was smooth for an MMO`
`05:32.12`	`smcn`	`i played swg at launch and it was unplayable for at least a week`
`05:32.52`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`the tbc launch really wasnt bad at all`
`05:33.47`	`Duman`	`where do you get teh RPGs in wintergrasp?`
`05:35.11`	`Corrodias`	`rocket-propelled grenades?`
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`05:37.51`	`Sargeras`	`hmmm`
`05:37.56`	`Sargeras`	`www.wowhead.com`
`05:38.20`	`Duman`	`sorry, the "RP-GG" ;-)`
`05:38.29`	`Duman`	`http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=42986`
`05:38.51`	`ReAn`	`thank you guys for being so swift!`
`05:39.46`	`batrick`	`nooo nehalem is pushed back to early november QQ`
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`05:40.53`	`Duman`	`jesus`
`05:41.01`	`Duman`	`the lag on murmer is retaded`
`05:41.03`	`Duman`	`retarded`
`05:41.15`	`ReAn`	`wierd, updated my mod but it wasn't at the top of the category :o`
`05:43.19`	`Corrodias`	`dont you mean murmur lol`
`05:43.22`	`Corrodias`	`lololol`
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`05:46.52`	`Wobin`	`eeee`
`05:47.00`	`Wobin`	`$84 for an audiobook`
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`06:02.59`	`Celoril`	`I'm using GetGuildBankTransaction which returns the time since a transaction in months, days, hours. I'm far from a lua guru.. how could I convert that to an approximate timestamp?`
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`06:05.10`	`Wobin`	`You may have to divide it all up`
`06:05.43`	`Syzgyn`	`string.format("%d/%d/%d", month, day, year)`
`06:06.10`	`Wobin`	`oh, you already have them sorted =)`
`06:06.11`	`Wobin`	`Misread`
`06:06.56`	`Celoril`	`Hmm.. if I added them/multipled them I should be able to get a value to subtract from the current timestamp..`
`06:07.51`	`Syzgyn`	`Wait what?`
`06:07.58`	`Wobin`	`oh time since last transaction`
`06:08.08`	`Wobin`	`so confusing`
`06:08.53`	`Celoril`	`hehe yeah the month/hour/whatever is the time SINCE the transaction and I want to get the time OF the transaction as a timestamp or something`
`06:09.20`	`Celoril`	`so I figured if I multiplied those values to get their timestamp equiv value, and subtracted them from time(), it should be decent?`
`06:09.26`	`Wobin`	`http://www.lua.org/pil/22.1.html`
`06:09.29`	`Wobin`	`may help`
`06:09.42`	`Celoril`	`Only issue I face now is figuring out how to get the current server time`
`06:09.56`	`Syzgyn`	`>>> time()`
`06:10.04`	`Celoril`	`That's the client time, no?`
`06:10.08`	`Wobin`	`if you use the time function to convert it all to epoch mase`
`06:10.09`	`Syzgyn`	`Wait whats the luabot command?`
`06:10.10`	`Wobin`	`base`
`06:10.18`	`Wobin`	`you can subtract, then use the date to push it back to a readable format`
`06:10.26`	`Wobin`	`lua> print "eh?"`
`06:10.27`	`lua_bot`	`Wobin: eh?`
`06:10.35`	`Syzgyn`	`oh`
`06:10.48`	`Wobin`	`I think >>> is only if Cide is on`
`06:12.07`	`Syzgyn`	`gotcha`
`06:12.26`	`Syzgyn`	`Celoril: theres GetGameTime() returns hour and minute`
`06:12.47`	`Celoril`	`ahh`
`06:13.06`	`Wobin`	`woah. byebye Lehman`
`06:13.09`	`Wobin`	`and Merryl Lynch`
`06:13.18`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`sigh log in to beta for the first time today.. world server down.. meh..`
`06:13.40`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`this is my surprised face, NightHawkTheSane`
`06:13.45`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`:\|`
`06:13.53`	`Wobin`	`^- this`
`06:14.05`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Wobin: ugh. >< just another reminder of how many financial institutions are a hairs breath away from collapse :(`
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`06:14.17`	`mastahbaitah`	`hello`
`06:14.18`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`all of them`
`06:14.36`	`mastahbaitah`	`sup everyone`
`06:14.41`	`Syzgyn`	`nice name >_>`
`06:14.46`	`mastahbaitah`	`ty`
`06:14.49`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`I don't get it`
`06:15.03`	`mastahbaitah`	`... hmm think harder or age`
`06:15.08`	`Wobin`	`scary`
`06:15.15`	`Wobin`	`age?`
`06:15.17`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`still don't get it... please explain it to me`
`06:15.18`	`Wobin`	`regress, you mean? =P`
`06:15.19`	`mastahbaitah`	`nm`
`06:15.34`	`mastahbaitah`	`so this is a all wow chat?`
`06:15.44`	`Syzgyn`	`nope`
`06:15.45`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`oh, goodness no`
`06:15.51`	`mastahbaitah`	`ohh what is it`
`06:15.53`	`Syzgyn`	`its an all nerd chat`
`06:15.58`	`mastahbaitah`	`ohh that wrks`
`06:16.06`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`yes. WoW players are like a 3 on the nerd scale, we're more like a 7`
`06:16.07`	`nevcairiel`	`Its about UI programming for WoW`
`06:16.15`	`Syzgyn`	`among other things`
`06:16.17`	`mastahbaitah`	`holly shit`
`06:16.21`	`Wobin`	`man, once you think about it`
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`06:16.26`	`Wobin`	`it's terribly nerdy isn't it?`
`06:16.33`	`mastahbaitah`	`no just over my head`
`06:16.34`	`nevcairiel`	`definately`
`06:16.55`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`it's so nerdy, when someone says "Man, this new XKCD is hysterical" the entire channel goes "yeah, it was!"`
`06:17.11`	`Wobin`	`That requires a nerd rating of at least 6`
`06:17.12`	`mastahbaitah`	`ouch.. see yaa`
`06:17.14`	`Syzgyn`	`I'm curious where you found this channel if you didnt already know what it was about :P`
`06:17.21`	`mastahbaitah`	`google`
`06:17.36`	`Wobin`	`what were you searching for? =)`
`06:17.42`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`porn?`
`06:17.45`	`mastahbaitah`	`i searched wow chat room it came up liek 6th or soo`
`06:17.46`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`that's how I ended up here`
`06:17.54`	`mastahbaitah`	`lmao long way away from pron`
`06:18.12`	`nevcairiel`	`if you would know what we do on weekends here`
`06:18.15`	`Wobin`	`well`
`06:18.17`	`Wobin`	`we have Cairenn`
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`06:18.23`	`mastahbaitah`	`i dont even knwo what ui is`
`06:18.38`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`This entire channel is primarily about addon development. As a consequence, about 99% of the channel is in the Wotlk beta, so there's a lot of beta discussion as well`
`06:18.51`	`mastahbaitah`	`ohh that kool`
`06:18.57`	`mastahbaitah`	`how is the beta?`
`06:19.01`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`down`
`06:19.08`	`Cairenn`	`lol`
`06:19.09`	`mastahbaitah`	`really? for how long`
`06:19.13`	`Wobin`	`like a cheap whore =\`
`06:19.13`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`oh, that's Cairenn. She's sweet, but ferocious`
`06:19.20`	`ccox`	`lich king is up, but the northrend section is down`
`06:19.28`	`mastahbaitah`	`y so`
`06:19.40`	`ccox`	`northrend server was up a few minutes ago, and northrend section was bouncing up and down`
`06:19.54`	`mastahbaitah`	`lmao still that buggy`
`06:19.54`	`Adys`	`Im pondering writing an official forum filter that replaces "hunter" by "pie", "warlock" by "cake", and "overpowered" by "way too tasty"`
`06:20.05`	`Wobin`	`The warlock is a lie?`
`06:20.17`	`ccox`	`murmur - well, you know how stable the floor is in dalaran? Murmur isn't that stable yet..`
`06:20.21`	`ReAn`	`Cairenn, is there a magic trick to get my mod to the top of it's category when it's updated? I'd like people to know it's updated but it didn't get juggled to the top when i uploaded the new version`
`06:20.28`	`Adys`	`"imbalanced" by "a lie" could work too`
`06:20.37`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`that won't work. Cause while hunters can be overpowered, pie can never be too tasty`
`06:20.47`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`ReAn has it been approved?`
`06:21.02`	`ReAn`	`yea`
`06:21.14`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`did you slip Dolby a c-note?`
`06:21.15`	`ReAn`	`it was approved almost immediately`
`06:21.20`	`ReAn`	`c-note?`
`06:21.24`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`if not, you'll get a bad table`
`06:21.25`	`mastahbaitah`	`wow hunter and op that doesnt usually go together`
`06:21.32`	`Wobin`	`slang for a hundred dollars`
`06:21.39`	`Wobin`	`(I think)`
`06:21.45`	`Wobin`	`(Those whacky americans)`
`06:22.03`	`ReAn`	`we call them brown-bills up in canada`
`06:22.09`	`ReAn`	`or just "a hundred"`
`06:22.11`	`Cairenn`	`http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/latest.php is on the front page of the site, lots of people use the RSS feed, plus if people use it, they have it on their favourites list, which means they see that it's been updated the next time they go to the site & (if they have it turned on) get an email notification`
`06:22.11`	`mastahbaitah`	`y brown`
`06:22.14`	`Wobin`	`pft, the old chimera was pretty damn op`
`06:22.14`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`cause the money is shitty?`
`06:22.22`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`c wut i did thar?`
`06:22.24`	`Wobin`	`ours is ... green`
`06:22.34`	`mastahbaitah`	`lmao`
`06:22.38`	`ReAn`	`yea Cairenn, it's not there`
`06:22.48`	`Cairenn`	`did you actually change the file?`
`06:22.51`	`mastahbaitah`	`any play a warr on beta?`
`06:22.53`	`ReAn`	`oh yes`
`06:23.01`	`Cairenn`	`link?`
`06:23.04`	`ReAn`	`i uploaded a new version and then i changed the description after`
`06:23.13`	`ReAn`	`http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10133-RuneWatch.html`
`06:23.16`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`I'm tellin' ya, you send Cairenn a fitty and she'll put your addon at the top!`
`06:23.30`	`ReAn`	`my addons sais it was updated at "1:34 am" server time`
`06:23.38`	`Wobin`	`wait a second =P he came in from cosmos =P`
`06:23.52`	`ReAn`	`NugRunning is #2 at 1:31`
`06:24.01`	`Dolby`	`it takes 15min to update the cache ReAn`
`06:24.03`	`Cairenn`	`that's odd that it didn't move to the top of the list, dunno why`
`06:24.13`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`and there you have it`
`06:24.14`	`ReAn`	`Dolby: it's been like 40 minutes`
`06:24.16`	`Cairenn`	`or that ^^`
`06:24.31`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`if you tip the admin, you gotta wait 15 minutes at least`
`06:24.36`	`Dolby`	`oh i think i know the problem`
`06:24.38`	`Dolby`	`1sec`
`06:24.41`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`s/you/you don't/`
`06:24.53`	`ReAn`	`it's not life altering, id just like the people who follow my mod to know it's updated`
`06:25.00`	`AnduinLothar`	`unless cair is awake, then it's like 15s`
`06:25.28`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`Why is Cairenn awake? Is the midnight sun keeping you up?`
`06:25.38`	`Cairenn`	`as I said though, if they like and use your mod, they've got it on their fav list anyway, so they know anyway`
`06:25.40`	`AnduinLothar`	`she doesn't actually sleep`
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`06:25.52`	`Wobin`	`She waits`
`06:25.55`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`she's a robot isn't she?`
`06:25.58`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`I knew it!`
`06:26.24`	`ReAn`	`Yea Cairenn, I know, but im also trying hard to attract new users!`
`06:26.27`	`Cairenn`	`oh no baby, I'm 100% real woman`
`06:26.35`	`Wobin`	`femmebot?`
`06:26.46`	`ReAn`	`The Cairenn Fan Club T-Shirt has proof too`
`06:26.51`	`zenzio`	`Cairenn: I'm afraid we're going to need evidence`
`06:27.01`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`Nov 13th! Woot, mid-Nov, just as predicted!`
`06:27.03`	`Cairenn`	`ReAn: hush`
`06:27.15`	`Wobin`	`ReAn: Nutritional information on the back?`
`06:27.17`	`ReAn`	`Cairenn, that's a compliment!`
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`06:27.32`	`ReAn`	`Wobin, I am not at liberty to discuss details.`
`06:27.39`	`ReAn`	`Thunder_Child might tho ^_^`
`06:29.18`	`ReAn`	`Dolby: Thankyou! What was the problem? Was it something I did?`
`06:29.26`	`Cairenn`	`s/for/as well, for/`
`06:30.46`	`Syzgyn`	`I've seen photographic evidence that Cairenn is indeed a robot`
`06:31.12`	`Thunder_Child`	`hahahahahaha Cairenn`
`06:31.28`	`Cairenn`	`I hate you so much, right in the FACE!`
`06:31.38`	`Cairenn`	`<3`
`06:32.22`	`Wobin`	`*Babailty*`
`06:32.41`	`Wobin`	`s/il/li/`
`06:33.00`	`Thunder_Child`	`Wobin, what kind of nutrition info do you need?`
`06:33.09`	`Wobin`	`well`
`06:33.11`	`Wobin`	`Colours`
`06:33.12`	`Cairenn`	`sugar and spice and everything nice, duh`
`06:33.14`	`Wobin`	`preservatives`
`06:33.23`	`Wobin`	`RDA percentages`
`06:33.25`	`Cairenn`	`don't you know your nursery rhymes?`
`06:33.44`	`Dolby`	`some one forgot to feed the cache gnome`
`06:33.50`	`Wobin`	`om nomnomnom`
`06:34.26`	`Adys`	`okay that's it`
`06:34.26`	`Cairenn`	`hah! http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/09/14/funny-pictures-epic-fetch/`
`06:34.31`	`Cairenn`	`Adys: ?`
`06:34.38`	`Adys`	`Im doing this greasemonkey script for the wow forums`
`06:35.12`	`Adys`	`What'd be a good replacement for "premade" ?`
`06:35.19`	`Cairenn`	`night NightHawkTheSane, sweet dreams`
`06:35.21`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`the word?`
`06:35.24`	`Adys`	`yeah`
`06:35.28`	`zenzio`	`Adys: pre-teen`
`06:35.34`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`organized`
`06:35.37`	`Adys`	`Ive put "public buffets" for PTR/Public test realm/`
`06:35.46`	`Wobin`	`Candy`
`06:35.56`	`Wobin`	`Fast Food?`
`06:36.02`	`Cairenn`	`Adys: what are you making the script to do?`
`06:36.02`	`Adys`	`haha awesome`
`06:36.06`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`oh, you mean premade characters? template`
`06:36.08`	`Adys`	`replacing some stuff Cairenn`
`06:36.18`	`Thunder_Child`	`~lart zenzio`
`06:36.18`	`purl`	`eats zenzio and falls over dead`
`06:36.40`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`or, if you want to make it amusing, munchkin`
`06:36.46`	`zenzio`	`I find it sad that you can do nothing but ~lart me every time I speak Thunder_Child`
`06:36.48`	`Cairenn`	`well yeah, I got that :p`
`06:36.48`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`or lazy`
`06:36.59`	`Wobin`	`~lart Thunder_Child`
`06:36.59`	`purl`	`hauls Thunder_Child up by the scruff of the neck and spanks him until he waddles`
`06:37.09`	`Cairenn`	`o.O`
`06:37.13`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`hmmm`
`06:37.18`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`~lart purl`
`06:37.18`	`purl`	`declares neuro_medivh a moron`
`06:37.18`	`Adys`	`Cairenn: http://pastebin.com/m62e807a9`
`06:37.22`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`lol`
`06:37.41`	`Cairenn`	`Adys: lol`
`06:38.19`	`Wobin`	`Mage = "Mineral Water"`
`06:38.31`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`premade = spankings`
`06:38.33`	`Wobin`	`Warrior : "Dumplings"`
`06:38.41`	`Thunder_Child`	`zenzio, oh, i can do other things but i'm busy ish atm`
`06:38.41`	`Adys`	`I like fastfood`
`06:38.44`	`Adys`	`for premades`
`06:39.12`	`zenzio`	`Thunder_Child: until I see proof, I'll just assume you're simply unimaginative`
`06:39.17`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`don't forget to make one for 'nerf' and 'nurf'`
`06:39.23`	`Wobin`	`Druid : "A1 Sauce"`
`06:39.35`	`Adys`	`Neuro_Medivh: what to replace it with?`
`06:39.39`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`cuddle`
`06:39.42`	`Adys`	`"please ... cake" ?`
`06:39.43`	`Thunder_Child`	`zenzio,`
`06:39.47`	`Thunder_Child`	`~lart zenzio`
`06:39.47`	`purl`	`chops zenzio in half with a free AOL CD`
`06:39.54`	`Wobin`	`garnish`
`06:40.13`	`Syzgyn`	`nerf = gently caress`
`06:40.16`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`nerf=fondle`
`06:40.23`	`Adys`	`gently caress cake?`
`06:40.27`	`Adys`	`what drugs are you on? :P`
`06:40.35`	`Wobin`	`garnish cake!`
`06:40.39`	`Syzgyn`	`cake?`
`06:40.44`	`Adys`	`isn't that the right opposite of nerf?`
`06:40.57`	`Wobin`	`You're going for logic here?`
`06:41.11`	`Adys`	`"the cake needs a ..." ?`
`06:41.25`	`Syzgyn`	`topping`
`06:41.33`	`Adys`	`needs to work both ways :(`
`06:41.46`	`Syzgyn`	`like, the topping needs a cake too?`
`06:41.52`	`Adys`	`x needs a y and do y on x`
`06:42.26`	`Wobin`	`ie we need to verbise an adjective`
`06:42.30`	`Syzgyn`	`so like 'hunters need a nerf', and 'nerf hunters'`
`06:42.38`	`Adys`	`yeah`
`06:42.41`	`Syzgyn`	`hmm`
`06:42.56`	`Wobin`	`"sheep"`
`06:43.04`	`Syzgyn`	`hug`
`06:43.31`	`Wobin`	`garnish works!`
`06:43.39`	`Syzgyn`	`so does 'gentle caress' :P`
`06:43.49`	`Adys`	`x needs a garnish?`
`06:43.56`	`Adys`	`isnt it garnishing or something like that?`
`06:44.00`	`Adys`	`(Im bad at english)`
`06:44.06`	`Wobin`	`it can be a 'thing'`
`06:44.17`	`Wobin`	`a garnish is the item as well as the action`
`06:45.17`	`Wobin`	`and the more I look at that word, the weirder it gets`
`06:45.38`	`Adys`	`Ill go for that`
`06:46.31`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`that's why I went for cuddle initially, it's both a verb and a noun`
`06:46.53`	`Adys`	`cuddling cake and pie just seem horribly creepy`
`06:47.04`	`Wobin`	`whatwhat. NKOTB is back?`
`06:47.12`	`Wobin`	`WHAT HAS BECOME OF THE WORLD?`
`06:47.26`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`I think Donnie felt pitty on the other 4`
`06:47.40`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`and agreed to do it`
`06:47.43`	`Cairenn`	`nkotb?`
`06:47.49`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`new kids on the block`
`06:48.02`	`Cairenn`	`oh, right`
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`06:48.04`	`Cairenn`	`yeah, they are`
`06:48.14`	`Wobin`	`or "Slightly Aged Kids On the Block"`
`06:48.30`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`well, Donnie doesn't need any help, but the other four sunk like a rock`
`06:49.31`	`Wobin`	`Looking at the album cover all I can think of is: "My god. So much nose."`
`06:51.17`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`I just gotta wonder, who is the target audience? They can't possibly hope to appeal to teenage girls, as Hannah Montana has a death-lock on that market... and most of their former fans are embarrased to have been nkotb fans`
`06:51.51`	`Syzgyn`	`I'm still boggled how Hannah Montana actually managed to become a popular musician`
`06:52.36`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`Disney`
`06:52.45`	`Syzgyn`	`Well yeah`
`06:53.06`	`Syzgyn`	`I guess I shouldnt be too suprised considering they did the same thing with a dozen other people from TV shows`
`06:53.12`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`yep`
`06:53.30`	`Wobin`	`heheh from the reviews: "I loved them when I was 16, and now 16 years later, my kids love them!"`
`06:53.35`	`Syzgyn`	`>_>`
`06:53.40`	`Wobin`	`Says it all, really =)`
`06:53.40`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`they're doing it with those three dorks here in Dallas too`
`06:56.17`	`Adys`	`ok so "Undead death knights played on the PTRs are just overpowered. Their DPS is too high, they need a nerf!" becomes "Out of date frozen food served on the public buffets are just way too tasty. Their taste level is too high, they need garnish!"`
`06:56.26`	`Adys`	`this is totally fucked up, I like it`
`06:57.32`	`Wobin`	`That is shiny =)`
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`06:58.29`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`hmm, nov 13th is a thursday.. how interesting`
`06:58.43`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`since most release dates are on tuesdays`
`06:58.58`	`nevcairiel`	`well they have time to patch all regions on the days before =)`
`07:01.04`	`Tekkub`	`they bring Northrend's Northrend back up? It's taking forever to log in, but it was all nice and responsive today`
`07:01.40`	`Cairenn`	`Adys: rofl, just read that - that's hilarious`
`07:05.06`	`Sixen`	`Cairenn, how far is this restaurant from the Convention Center?`
`07:05.23`	`Cairenn`	`it's between the Con and Disney`
`07:05.32`	`Sixen`	`Oh, so walking distance?`
`07:05.35`	`Cairenn`	`easy walking distance`
`07:05.37`	`Cairenn`	`oh hell yes`
`07:05.43`	`Sixen`	`Kay good, =].`
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`07:06.20`	`Sixen`	`Well i'm headed to bed, talk to you guys (and gals) tomorrow.`
`07:06.37`	`Cairenn`	`sweet dreans`
`07:06.39`	`Cairenn`	`m*`
`07:06.54`	`Sixen`	`nighty`
`07:07.04`	`Adys`	`night cair`
`07:07.10`	`Adys`	`er, Sixen`
`07:07.14`	`Sixen`	`:p`
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`07:15.46`	`End`	`mages wish they were glass cannons! I'm the real glass cannon now!`
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`07:19.16`	`Dolby`	`hmmmm http://www.mmoui.com/cfm-shirt.jpg`
`07:19.40`	`Syzgyn`	`Hahaha`
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`07:23.50`	`Adys`	`I have really little respect for people putting a "Donate to help me developing this" link on scripts that add a single link, in a single page`
`07:24.12`	`Adys`	`I understand the reasonment behind it but it's plainly stupid`
`07:24.24`	`Syzgyn`	`Heh`
`07:25.47`	`Syzgyn`	`I figure, if you didnt spend at least 40 hours of work on the mod, its not amazing enough to bother asking for money on`
`07:26.07`	`Adys`	`http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/33765`
`07:26.09`	`Adys`	`look at that`
`07:26.17`	`Adys`	`it's probably the 50th script that does that`
`07:26.26`	`Syzgyn`	`Lawl`
`07:26.43`	`Adys`	`its 3 lines of code, damn`
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`07:37.20`	`Thunder_Child`	`Dolby, i has a feeling Cairenn is not amused`
`07:37.47`	`Dolby`	`she loves it Thunder_Child`
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`07:37.53`	`Dolby`	`now to find a good screen printer`
`07:38.29`	`Cairenn`	`><`
`07:38.46`	`Thunder_Child`	`sorry Dolby, you suck at lieing`
`07:41.49`	`Thunder_Child`	`hmm.. a picture might help that shit along`
`07:42.36`	`Thunder_Child`	`s/shit/shirt/`
`07:44.55`	`Maldivia`	`hmm... so November 13th, Stargate and WoW will be one... at least judging from the adds`
`07:45.17`	`Thunder_Child`	`sigh a 3rd mmo to play >.<`
`07:45.56`	`Tekkub`	`I have very low expectations of the SG MMO`
`07:47.05`	`Thunder_Child`	`Tekkub, you seem to have low expectations of most things`
`07:47.24`	`Tekkub`	`why you say that?`
`07:47.28`	`Maldivia`	`well, am I the only one seeing the obvious stargate reference in those adds?`
`07:47.50`	`Thunder_Child`	`Tekkub, that seems to be what i hear from you most of the time`
`07:47.53`	`Jamash`	`which ads?`
`07:48.00`	`Tekkub`	`it is?`
`07:48.10`	`Maldivia`	`Jamash: thottbot.com and wowhead.com`
`07:48.15`	`Thunder_Child`	`ya, maybe we just happen to talk about things you dont like`
`07:48.17`	`Thunder_Child`	`osh`
`07:48.23`	`Thunder_Child`	`s/osh/ish/`
`07:48.27`	`Jamash`	`lawl`
`07:49.30`	`Tekkub`	`and no, I see that same ring that's been on all the other covers, frozen :P`
`07:50.31`	`Jamash`	`world of warcraft, the frozen crusade`
`07:50.42`	`Maldivia`	`Tekkub: maybe it's just because it's so dominant in the picture`
`07:52.58`	`Tekkub`	`maybe if it had say, six runes lit up around the edge, sure`
`07:53.15`	`Dolby`	`hes talking about the stargate portal looking thing on the wotlk ad on http://www.wowhead.com/`
`07:53.18`	`leethal`	`it's LOTR`
`07:53.27`	`leethal`	`no, it's a black hole from LHC`
`07:53.37`	`leethal`	`no, it's the 3 Ring`
`07:53.38`	`Tekkub`	`Dolby, master of the obvious`
`07:53.51`	`Dolby`	`doh chat wasnt scrolled down all the way`
`07:54.02`	`Dolby`	`the ding on my name made it pop down`
`07:54.05`	`Tekkub`	`Dolby, master of the scroll bar`
`07:54.40`	`leethal`	`<probablyold>Dolby, master of the THX</probablyold>`
`07:55.26`	`Tekkub`	`the THX noise would be the perfect alarm clock`
`07:55.44`	`Tekkub`	`beeping pisses me off, and radio doesn't wake me up well enough to get out of bed`
`07:55.51`	`Thunder_Child`	`Dolby, stop getting teh songs stuck in my head!!`
`07:56.02`	`Tekkub`	`but the THX noise would wake me up and amuse me at the same time...`
`07:56.02`	`leethal`	`I hate it when they show anything other than the original THX intro`
`07:56.12`	`leethal`	`the simpsons thing, the bee etc.`
`07:56.24`	`Thunder_Child`	`they are amusing`
`07:56.26`	`Tekkub`	`I'm gonna have to find that sound and gasp actually burn a CD for once`
`07:56.49`	`Dolby`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IlHgbOWj4o`
`07:57.40`	`Thunder_Child`	`~slap Dolby`
`07:57.40`	`purl`	`ACTION slaps Dolby, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!`
`07:57.40`	`Syzgyn`	`Tekkub: I'll set my alarm, then manage to turn it off and go back to sleep, then wake up much later and not even remembering if it went off or not`
`07:57.48`	`Thunder_Child`	`~smack Dolby`
`07:57.49`	`purl`	`ACTION smacks Dolby upside the head.`
`07:57.51`	`Thunder_Child`	`better`
`07:57.55`	`Dolby`	`lol`
`07:58.03`	`Syzgyn`	`~whalenuke Thunder_Child`
`07:58.04`	`purl`	`ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Thunder_Child with his mind powers.`
`07:58.09`	`Thunder_Child`	`~whaleshield`
`07:58.10`	`purl`	`ACTION summons a rather dense leaden whale named Billy Bob to shield thunder_child from the blast.`
`07:58.10`	`Tekkub`	`Syzgyn, I hit snooze for two hours, exactly, then get up`
`07:58.19`	`Tekkub`	`after two hours snooze stops working`
`07:58.22`	`Syzgyn`	`Haha`
`07:58.51`	`Syzgyn`	`I need to drink more... I always wake up early when I drink the night before`
`07:59.10`	`Thunder_Child`	`that sounds shady Syzgyn`
`07:59.24`	`Syzgyn`	`I dunno what it is`
`07:59.31`	`Syzgyn`	`but its pretty consistant`
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`08:02.05`	`Adys`	`http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/33769`
`08:02.09`	`Syzgyn`	`At least I have alot of liquor on hand if I ever decide to go that route :) Homemade Infusions FTW`
`08:02.54`	`Syzgyn`	`~cheer Adys`
`08:02.55`	`purl`	`Three cheers for Adys! Hip hip Hurray! Hip hip Hurray! Hip hip Hurray!`
`08:03.34`	`Syzgyn`	`You should add in common shorthand and mispellings too`
`08:03.56`	`Adys`	`Yeah its mostly to test if it works atm`
`08:04.00`	`Syzgyn`	`Ah`
`08:04.17`	`Syzgyn`	`Now I need to remember how to add these things in Opera`
`08:06.23`	`Adys`	`Well shit`
`08:06.36`	`Adys`	`I left it enabled for all pages locally and when editing the source it replaced my entire dict`
`08:06.54`	`Syzgyn`	`woops :V`
`08:08.57`	`Syzgyn`	`Hm, doesnt seem to be working`
`08:09.23`	`Adys`	`yeah`
`08:09.24`	`Adys`	`update it`
`08:09.33`	`Adys`	`the dict was a=a basicallt atm :P`
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`08:12.44`	`Syzgyn`	`Still nothing`
`08:13.10`	`Adys`	`works fine here, cleared cache?`
`08:13.23`	`Syzgyn`	`Is it case sensitive?`
`08:13.26`	`Adys`	`nop`
`08:16.45`	`Syzgyn`	`Maybe its because its opera?`
`08:17.18`	`Adys`	`might be, afaik gm is a firefox extension, not 100% compatible`
`08:17.38`	`Syzgyn`	`I've been using other GM scripts with no problem`
`08:17.51`	`Kalroth`	`Adys: fix wowwiki pls!`
`08:18.05`	`Adys`	`what's a good replacement for BC/wotlk/tbc ? I'd like to use Burned/Iced pastries for it but dont know how to put it in an "expansion" way`
`08:18.23`	`Adys`	`Kalroth: works fine here, try disabling the entire site, er I mean the ads`
`08:18.31`	`Kalroth`	`I meant the channel :P`
`08:19.14`	`Adys`	`fixt`
`08:20.59`	`Adys`	`Kalroth: giev idea`
`08:21.31`	`Kalroth`	`Adys: maek flat plate deep for soup`
`08:21.48`	`Adys`	`[11:17:37] <Adys> what's a good replacement for BC/wotlk/tbc ? I'd like to use Burned/Iced pastries for it but dont know how to put it in an "expansion" way`
`08:21.50`	`Adys`	`that you silly :(`
`08:22.09`	`Kalroth`	`kk`
`08:22.38`	`Kalroth`	`You mean plain/tbc/wotlk, yeah?`
`08:22.43`	`Kalroth`	`not BC/tbc`
`08:22.55`	`Adys`	`the word`
`08:23.14`	`Kalroth`	`oh, so you want to say tbc without saying tbc?`
`08:23.18`	`Adys`	`http://pastebin.com/m337738d1`
`08:23.18`	`Kalroth`	`you're not making this easy`
`08:23.19`	`Adys`	`this kalroth`
`08:24.03`	`Kalroth`	`aha`
`08:24.29`	`Adys`	`and I want to replace beta by a word i forgot qq`
`08:24.40`	`Kalroth`	`well I guess wotlk could be "frost glacing"`
`08:24.41`	`Adys`	`What you do when you taste something "before" eating it`
`08:25.56`	`Kalroth`	`you mean like kings used to have people doing, to check for poison etc?`
`08:26.00`	`Adys`	`yea`
`08:28.40`	`nevcairiel`	`I think the guy was called a "Taster"`
`08:28.52`	`Adys`	`yeah, but the action?`
`08:28.56`	`Adys`	`was it just to "taste"?`
`08:35.17`	`Syzgyn`	`sample?`
`08:35.57`	`Cairenn`	`(2008-09-15 04:35:14) Dolby: if I was dreaming I'd be naked running home from school`
`08:36.31`	`*** kick/#WoWUIDev [Cairenn!n=Dolby@MMOI/Administrator/Dolby] by Dolby (Dolby)`
`08:36.31`	`nevcairiel`	`he definately has weird dreams`
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`08:37.09`	`Syzgyn`	`lol`
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`08:42.10`	`Sargeras`	`that`
`08:42.12`	`Sargeras`	`was creepy`
`08:42.15`	`Sargeras`	`wow`
`08:42.27`	`Sargeras`	`Cairenn, hold meh~`
`08:42.37`	`Adys`	`~hold Sargeras`
`08:42.37`	`purl`	`ACTION Embraces Sargeras in a giant bear hug. Then gets bored and uses Sargeras as a chew toy.`
`08:42.46`	`Sargeras`	`oh my`
`08:42.48`	`Cairenn`	`Sargeras: not a chance, you jerk! Dolby told me!`
`08:42.54`	`Sargeras`	`?!`
`08:43.06`	`Sargeras`	`aboot?`
`08:43.12`	`Cairenn`	`hate you hate you hate you`
`08:43.12`	`Sargeras`	`:D`
`08:43.23`	`Sargeras`	`I think he's lying`
`08:43.43`	`Sargeras`	`[ ] Confirm [ ] Deny`
`08:44.46`	`Sargeras`	`but Cairenn`
`08:44.52`	`Sargeras`	`its so beautiful`
`08:44.54`	`Cairenn`	`NO`
`08:45.07`	`Sargeras`	`want me to send you the entire conversation?`
`08:45.12`	`Sargeras`	`you dont know what he said`
`08:46.34`	`Dolby`	`she knows`
`08:46.41`	`Dolby`	`he already is gonna kill me`
`08:46.44`	`Dolby`	`SHE`
`08:46.50`	`Dolby`	`damn sticky s`
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`08:52.28`	`Adys`	`[Y/n/f]:`
`08:52.29`	`Adys`	`for fail`
`08:52.43`	`Fisker-`	`no u`
`08:52.55`	`Fisker-`	`besides you haven't chosen f yes`
`08:52.57`	`Fisker-`	`yet*`
`08:53.24`	`doow`	`yet? don't be so pessimistic`
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`08:54.27`	`foxlit`	`The 11.13.08 date looks hilarious`
`08:54.49`	`Fisker-`	`why so hilarious?`
`08:55.04`	`Adys`	`because your mom so hilarious`
`08:55.05`	`Fisker-`	`also stop being so american`
`08:55.06`	`Sargeras`	`I wish that was a Friday`
`08:55.15`	`Jamash`	`SLEEP TIME`
`08:55.16`	`foxlit`	`dd.mm.yy lands it off the calendar :)`
`08:55.24`	`haste`	`lies`
`08:55.28`	`Adys`	`i did say that`
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`08:55.38`	`Fisker-`	`actually an odd release date`
`08:55.49`	`Fisker-`	`last time it was released on a tuesday`
`08:56.09`	`Sargeras`	`no one will be able to play it till the 15th or 16th anyways ;p`
`08:56.28`	`haste`	`backstab`
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`09:10.48`	`Adys`	`I think Ill be going a bit more shatterish in wotlk`
`09:10.50`	`Adys`	`http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?mage=00000000000000000000000000000535033310234130202152231051205021000100000000000000000000`
`09:12.02`	`krka`	`that's nicely compressed`
`09:12.19`	`Adys`	`http://tinyurl.com/adysbuild`
`09:12.22`	`Adys`	`better?`
`09:12.27`	`krka`	`yes!`
`09:12.31`	`Adys`	`or http://spec if you like customizing dns`
`09:13.19`	`Adys`	`Id actually like to get winter's chill, at least 2/3`
`09:13.41`	`Adys`	`but since improved scorch will overwrite it anyway ..`
`09:21.18`	`Adys`	`http://www.stickfigureninja.com/wow/application-audio.html that app is awesome`
`09:31.35`	`leethal`	`who is the app for?`
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`09:42.07`	`Adys`	`leethal: http://www.anointed.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1634&st=0&sk=t&sd=a`
`09:42.59`	`Syzgyn`	`Lol Adys this is great`
`09:43.22`	`Adys`	`the app, the build, the script or just me?`
`09:43.39`	`Fisker-`	`neither`
`09:43.48`	`Syzgyn`	`The flash thing`
`09:43.49`	`Syzgyn`	`and you`
`09:43.58`	`Adys`	`can neither be employed if there is more than two subjects?`
`09:44.05`	`Adys`	`thought it'd be none`
`09:44.49`	`Adys`	`Syzgyn: Because World of cakecraft has matured significantly since the inception of Paid Character Transfers, we donât feel that vegetarian-to-carnivorous transfers will have the negative impact on the game that we initially wanted to avoid when we started the service in 2006.`
`09:45.10`	`Syzgyn`	`Haha`
`09:45.11`	`Adys`	`I might just be overdoing it`
`09:45.12`	`foxlit`	`You can discuss the terms of its employment contract right after you pay out the 19 years of back pay you owe it :)`
`09:45.16`	`Syzgyn`	`Nonsense!`
`09:45.37`	`Adys`	`2. Manually visit taste.worldofcakecraft.com in your browser.`
`09:46.27`	`ReAn`	`not to bash, but i seriously have no idea why people still use thottbot instead of wowhead`
`09:46.36`	`Syzgyn`	`true dat`
`09:46.38`	`ReAn`	`thottbot has to have the ugliest design i've ever seen`
`09:46.51`	`Fisker-`	`Thottbot is t for thottbot`
`09:47.06`	`Adys`	`because wowhead refuses to include shit like spell effect listings for example`
`09:47.48`	`Syzgyn`	`If I ever find myself apping to guilds, I'm totally going to make a flash like that`
`09:48.06`	`ReAn`	`i still have no idea how blizzard thinks this game will be ready for november`
`09:48.12`	`Adys`	`i constantly have to switch between thottbot, wh, wowdb and even (urgh) wowdigger to get all the info i need sometimes`
`09:48.12`	`ReAn`	`if beta is any indication`
`09:48.47`	`Syzgyn`	`ReAn: as long as everything is implemented and working correctly, messing with the numbers is a relatively minor thing`
`09:48.54`	`Syzgyn`	`and they are pretty close to that`
`09:49.11`	`Adys`	`i think its gonna be like bc`
`09:49.20`	`Syzgyn`	`How so?`
`09:49.23`	`Adys`	`tons of 80 content left for tuning`
`09:49.26`	`Adys`	`for 3.1`
`09:49.34`	`Adys`	`they just want to release before war`
`09:49.35`	`Fisker-`	`Not to mention balance`
`09:49.44`	`Fisker-`	`That's not before`
`09:49.45`	`Fisker-`	`but way after`
`09:49.51`	`Syzgyn`	`hehe`
`09:49.55`	`Adys`	`they just want to release before war gets too many customers.`
`09:50.14`	`Fisker-`	`Not gonna make a difference`
`09:50.31`	`Fisker-`	`If they had released in september perhaps`
`09:50.32`	`Adys`	`go tell that to vivendi if you feeling smart fisky`
`09:50.33`	`Syzgyn`	`So basically, Activison is pulling rank on this one`
`09:50.40`	`Syzgyn`	`s/Activision/Vivendi/`
`09:51.00`	`Fisker-`	`Knowing that isn't considered very smart`
`09:51.07`	`Fisker-`	`but just pure logic`
`09:51.24`	`Adys`	`Go tell them.`
`09:51.31`	`Fisker-`	`No`
`09:51.39`	`Fisker-`	`You go tell them`
`09:51.49`	`Arrowmaster`	`i fucking hate crickets`
`09:51.55`	`Adys`	`No because i couldnt actually care more when wotlk is released`
`09:52.01`	`Syzgyn`	`Do any of you happen to know the texture path to the ready check check mark?`
`09:52.01`	`Fisker-`	`Neither could i`
`09:53.11`	`Arrowmaster`	`bye all time to move the car and thus no more power`
`09:53.30`	`Fisker-`	`>:3`
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`10:01.22`	`jnwhiteh`	`hrm, I want to listen to streaming music (radio stations are okay if they don't suck)`
`10:01.25`	`jnwhiteh`	`any suggestions?`
`10:01.42`	`zenzio`	`I stick to di.fm usually`
`10:02.06`	`zenzio`	`occasional ad in the stream, but nothing too bad`
`10:04.19`	`jnwhiteh`	`hrm all electronica`
`10:04.24`	`Maldivia`	`clad: shoutcast.com?`
`10:04.52`	`Shirik`	`lua> debug`
`10:04.53`	`lua_bot`	`Shirik: nil`
`10:05.03`	`Shirik`	`--> debug.setmetatable(nil, {})`
`10:05.03`	`batbot`	`Shirik: > true`
`10:05.10`	`Shirik`	`wow, I didn't know you could do that`
`10:05.22`	`jnwhiteh`	`of course ya can :P`
`10:05.32`	`Shirik`	`--> debug.setmetatable(nil, {__index = print}); a = nil; a:print()`
`10:05.32`	`batbot`	`Shirik: @ [string "debug.setmetatable(nil, {__index = print});..."]:1: attempt to call method 'print' (a nil value)`
`10:05.55`	`Shirik`	`--> debug.setmetatable(nil, {__index = {print = print}}); a = nil; a:print()`
`10:05.55`	`batbot`	`Shirik: nil`
`10:05.58`	`Shirik`	`That is so awesome`
`10:07.13`	`jnwhiteh`	`zenzio: know anything like di.fm for other genres?`
`10:07.50`	`Maldivia`	`--> debug.setmetatable(nil, {__call=function() print("Can't call nil stupid!") end}) a=nil; a();`
`10:07.50`	`batbot`	`Maldivia: Can't call nil stupid!`
`10:08.01`	`Shirik`	`lol`
`10:08.36`	`zenzio`	`jnwhiteh: not sure I'm afraid :-\| Hear someone speak of last.fm, don't know if you can stream from there`
`10:09.07`	`foxlit`	`They do a radio-style thing`
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`10:09.28`	`jnwhiteh`	`I need something I can listen to with mplayer, withouta browser`
`10:09.28`	`jnwhiteh`	`ideally`
`10:09.37`	`Maldivia`	`jnwhiteh: what genra?`
`10:09.39`	`Maldivia`	`genre*`
`10:09.46`	`jnwhiteh`	`good artist is rufus wainwright`
`10:09.48`	`foxlit`	`You can stream things based on a tag, or you can stream some specific song (for limited values of song)`
`10:09.52`	`jnwhiteh`	`now sure what genre it tags him as#`
`10:09.59`	`jnwhiteh`	`that's my "relaxing but working" music :P`
`10:10.05`	`jnwhiteh`	`and i dnot feel like fighting with pandora`
`10:11.26`	`Maldivia`	`hmm... easy-listening?`
`10:13.58`	`Throngy`	`last.fm will give you a stream of rufus wainwrighty music`
`10:14.08`	`jnwhiteh`	`yeah i'm download lastbash right now`
`10:16.49`	`Maldivia`	`uhh... my new monitor just arrived...`
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`10:55.57`	`Fogger`	`Anyone got any suggestions for cleaning up this mess of if statements? http://pastey.net/96106`
`10:56.11`	`Shirik`	`use a lookup table`
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`10:56.50`	`Shirik`	`zoneTranslator = { ["The Stockade"] = "Stocks", ["The Deadmines"] = "DM" ... etc`
`10:57.31`	`Fogger`	`then I can just do if currentZone == zoneTranslator ?`
`10:57.52`	`Shirik`	`cdo:SetText(zoneTranslator[currentZone])`
`10:57.52`	`Maldivia`	`zoneTranslator[currentZone]`
`10:58.12`	`Fogger`	`mmm`
`10:58.20`	`[dRaCo]`	`anyone got a EU prepatch torrent?`
`10:58.20`	`Maldivia`	`perhaps embed all the data`
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`10:58.23`	`Fogger`	`thanks, I'll have a go :)`
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`10:58.29`	`Esine`	`wow that's so horrible`
`10:58.30`	`Maldivia`	`[dRaCo]: sure, need it?`
`10:58.38`	`[dRaCo]`	`yeah, that'd be great`
`10:58.59`	`Fogger`	`embed all the data?`
`10:59.17`	`Maldivia`	`isAlliance etc`
`11:00.14`	`Fogger`	`let me google: embed data Lua :P`
`11:00.33`	`Maldivia`	`not embed like that`
`11:00.46`	`Fogger`	`not sure what you mean by embed`
`11:01.02`	`Fogger`	`I know what embed means, "include within" or whatever`
`11:01.12`	`Maldivia`	`something like: zoneTranslator["Darnassus"] = { shortName = "Darn", isCity = true, isAlliance = true }`
`11:01.25`	`Fogger`	`ah, i c`
`11:01.32`	`Fogger`	`embed within the table`
`11:01.34`	`Maldivia`	`so all the information is stored one place`
`11:01.57`	`Maldivia`	`so later you can do if zoneInformation[currentZone].isCity then -- etc`
`11:02.11`	`[dRaCo]`	`Maldivia: yeah, mind linking it?`
`11:02.27`	`Maldivia`	`[dRaCo]: just a sec :)`
`11:02.47`	`[dRaCo]`	`Maldivia: sure`
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`11:03.54`	`Maldivia`	`80.239.148.125/background/WoW-2.4.3.8606-x86-Win-enGB-BC-BKGND.torrent`
`11:05.23`	`[dRaCo]`	`thanks a lot`
`11:05.52`	`Maldivia`	`if you need other locals just change enGB :)`
`11:06.26`	`[dRaCo]`	`even better, but enGB is fine`
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`11:23.02`	`jnwhiteh`	`I wish background downloader worked on mac`
`11:23.13`	`jnwhiteh`	`i hate havign to download the whole damn patch on the day of`
`11:23.14`	`jnwhiteh`	`shrug`
`11:25.25`	`wereHamster`	`is that a bug or did blizzard simply not enable it for the mac client?`
`11:25.42`	`Esine`	`or port it to mac client`
`11:25.56`	`jnwhiteh`	`they just didn't implement it as far as I can tell`
`11:26.02`	`jnwhiteh`	`the option is in the launcher`
`11:26.06`	`jnwhiteh`	`but its never worked`
`11:27.06`	`Industrial`	`im getting a 60/6 mbit line at home`
`11:27.07`	`Industrial`	`for free`
`11:27.08`	`Industrial`	`=D`
`11:27.12`	`jnwhiteh`	`nice :P`
`11:27.12`	`Industrial`	`well, the upgrade is free`
`11:31.03`	`Maldivia`	`jnwhiteh: ehh, there are background download torrend for mac?`
`11:31.26`	`jnwhiteh`	`I'm sure there are torrents`
`11:31.29`	`jnwhiteh`	`I have no idea what to do with them`
`11:31.45`	`Maldivia`	`ohh, there are no background downloader app for mac?`
`11:31.47`	`jnwhiteh`	`nope`
`11:31.55`	`jnwhiteh`	`i'd love to be proven wrong, but :P`
`11:32.36`	`Maldivia`	`hmm, you sure?`
`11:32.54`	`jnwhiteh`	`pretty sure, yeah`
`11:33.25`	`Maldivia`	`I have a Background Downloader.app dir in my mpqs`
`11:33.43`	`jnwhiteh`	`hrm, i'll have to look again`
`11:34.33`	`jnwhiteh`	`id' love to be able to launch it manually`
`11:36.12`	`Maldivia`	`hmm... just went from 1280x1024 to 1920x1200... have no idea what to do with all that new space for UI in wow :)`
`11:36.35`	`jnwhiteh`	`heheh :P`
`11:36.37`	`Throngy`	`more dots!`
`11:36.58`	`Maldivia`	`more hots!`
`11:41.02`	`Maldivia`	`jnwhiteh: found the background downloader thne?`
`11:41.08`	`Shirik`	`wtf Industrial`
`11:41.10`	`Shirik`	`how did you get that`
`11:41.15`	`jnwhiteh`	`no, i'm not at my home machine at the moment`
`11:41.29`	`Maldivia`	`ahh, ok`
`11:43.17`	`Maldivia`	`jnwhiteh: http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors has a lot of mirrors for the file currently serverd as background download`
`11:43.21`	`Industrial`	`Shirik: :D my cablecompany UPC is doing 60/10 and 120/12 for home next month`
`11:43.30`	`Shirik`	`wtf`
`11:43.37`	`Industrial`	`for 50 and 85 euros/month`
`11:43.50`	`jnwhiteh`	`Maldivia: How does that work when it gets downloaded?`
`11:43.51`	`Industrial`	`we are already paying 50 for 24/2 atm so we are just getting 60/6 for free`
`11:44.01`	`jnwhiteh`	`bah, i'll bbl`
`11:44.11`	`Esine`	`anyone know if 3.0.2 EU PTR has been released? there's this guy telling me he's got it but I don't know if I ought to believe him`
`11:44.15`	`Maldivia`	`jnwhiteh: place it in the correct folder, and the blizzard downloader will pick it up`
`11:44.21`	`jnwhiteh`	`Maldivia: ah okay :P`
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`11:44.58`	`jnwhiteh`	`that makes sense then`
`11:45.36`	`Maldivia`	`that's how the background downloader has worked so far, so guess it's the same still`
`11:45.51`	`jnwhiteh`	`cool`
`11:47.04`	`Maldivia`	`wow... background download for non-tbc -> 3.0.1 is 2.5gb!`
`11:47.36`	`Maldivia`	`... are they getting free tbc?`
`11:52.28`	`foxlit`	`gr, luasql needs an escape_string function`
`11:53.00`	`krka`	`what kind of escape string?`
`11:53.29`	`foxlit`	`'INSERT INTO students SET name = ' .. escape_string(userInput)`
`11:53.46`	`krka`	`string.format ?`
`11:54.01`	`foxlit`	`Won't work.`
`11:54.40`	`foxlit`	`SQL escapes are a bit tricker than %q can handle, and sqlite doesn't support it's \" notation anyway.`
`11:54.46`	`foxlit`	`s/'//`
`11:55.31`	`krka`	`how does sqlite escape then?`
`11:56.48`	`foxlit`	`as described in the SQL standard`
`11:57.49`	`foxlit`	`heck, if I knew, I'd write it. The very point of wanting one provided is to not care about it :)`
`11:57.57`	`nevcairiel`	`sqlite doesnt like \" ?`
`11:58.00`	`nevcairiel`	`crazy world`
`11:58.10`	`foxlit`	`"C-style escapes using the backslash character are not supported because they are not standard SQL."`
`11:58.43`	`nevcairiel`	`I mostly just do addslashes() in my PHP MySQL stuff, so used to it =P`
`11:58.51`	`foxlit`	`YOU DO WHAT?!`
`11:59.33`	`foxlit`	`(mysql_real_escape_string or burn in righteous fire)`
`11:59.37`	`nevcairiel`	`all other evil chars are stripped out before`
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`12:03.06`	`Maldivia`	`hmm - anyone know how to attune yourself for onyxia on beta as alliance?`
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`12:03.24`	`foxlit`	`Have you tried... just entering the lair?`
`12:03.34`	`Maldivia`	`yep - not working`
`12:04.34`	`Maldivia`	`erorr about not having drakefire amulet`
`12:04.50`	`nevcairiel`	`well do you have it?`
`12:05.05`	`Maldivia`	`no - DK`
`12:05.18`	`Maldivia`	`but old quest line doesn't exist anymore`
`12:05.31`	`foxlit`	`post a bug, I think`
`12:05.45`	`zenzio`	`do the horde have the quest chain then?`
`12:05.47`	`Maldivia`	`onyxia is no longer in SW castle`
`12:05.49`	`foxlit`	`It'd make sense if they finally lift that attunement altogether.`
`12:06.00`	`foxlit`	`Or remove onyxia. Hah.`
`12:06.12`	`zenzio`	`will the new Naxxramas require an attunement?`
`12:06.27`	`zenzio`	`either way, will the Argent Dawn refund our previous attunement cost?`
`12:06.37`	`nevcairiel`	`no =P`
`12:06.38`	`foxlit`	`you can get your 30g back!`
`12:06.47`	`foxlit`	`(you worthless non-exalted slacker :) )`
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`12:23.41`	`Kaso`	`Google just drove past my house!!`
`12:23.42`	`Kaso`	`woohoo`
`12:28.37`	`wereHamster`	`why is it that always when the lesson begins and the teacher starts to speak my brains urges me to sleep ..`
`12:29.54`	`wereHamster`	`it's getting quite annoying. I _don't want_ to sleep, but I always find myself asleep for the better half of the courses`
`12:31.14`	`Esine`	`where do you live Kaso`
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`12:51.06`	`Anaral`	`wb everyone`
`12:53.12`	`Shirik`	`more like wb you :P`
`12:53.24`	`Shirik`	`obviously our server is cooler than yours`
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`12:55.11`	`Kalroth`	`Noooo, Shirik is back`
`13:12.16`	`Shirik`	`:( Kalroth`
`13:12.29`	`Shirik`	`what do you mean I'm back..`
`13:12.32`	`Shirik`	`p.s. bye`
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`13:27.03`	`FaTThAcKeD`	`Hi all any one here?`
`13:27.13`	`jnwhiteh`	`quite a few of us, actually`
`13:27.40`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`no one here but us chickens`
`13:27.46`	`FaTThAcKeD`	`Right on, Any 1 intrested in purchasing a WoW Retail GM or Dev account?`
`13:28.00`	`*** kick/#WoWUIDev [FaTThAcKeD!n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn\|afk (Cairenn\|afk)`
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`13:28.31`	`FaTThAcKeD`	`why did u kick me >:?`
`13:28.36`	`jnwhiteh`	`because`
`13:28.41`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`this is a legit channel, selling accounts violates Blizz's rules`
`13:28.50`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`next time you get a ban to go with the kick`
`13:28.54`	`jnwhiteh`	`what you are trying to do is in violation of the ToS, EuLA among other things`
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`13:29.47`	`FaTThAcKeD`	`No it dosent...... read the eula and the tos... theres nothing on there that says Ex Blizzard Developers cant sell their accounts...`
`13:30.05`	`jnwhiteh`	`accounts can't be sold period`
`13:30.07`	`jnwhiteh`	`they are the property of Blizzard`
`13:30.09`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`I'm quite serious, drop it`
`13:30.48`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`and no ex blizz dev is going to randomly show up in this channel and offer to sell their account, give me a break`
`13:30.53`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`we're not quite that stupid`
`13:31.27`	`FaTThAcKeD`	`rofl you guys are fucking lame.... damn your dumb.... your guy's loss`
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`13:31.31`	`jnwhiteh`	`i own guy's loss?`
`13:31.43`	`*** kick/#WoWUIDev [FaTThAcKeD!n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn\|afk (Cairenn\|afk)`
`13:33.40`	`[dRaCo]`	`there was this addon that allowed the hiding of frames when entering combat, anyone got a name for me?`
`13:33.55`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`Fred`
`13:34.08`	`jnwhiteh`	`Michael`
`13:35.37`	`[dRaCo]`	`yeah... funny.`
`13:35.42`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`grin`
`13:35.59`	`[dRaCo]`	`;P`
`13:37.45`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`sorry [dRaCo], I don't recall off the top of my head atm`
`13:38.36`	`[dRaCo]`	`do you by any chance know which category such an addon would be in on wowi?`
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`13:39.46`	`malreth`	`:(`
`13:40.04`	`[dRaCo]`	`ha, found it!`
`13:40.09`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`yay`
`13:40.12`	`[dRaCo]`	`called OnScreen`
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`13:59.54`	`batrick`	`http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/preorder/index.htm`
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`14:02.35`	`jnwhiteh`	`oddly enough`
`14:02.39`	`jnwhiteh`	`the retailers listed there`
`14:02.43`	`jnwhiteh`	`only amazon available in the UK`
`14:02.56`	`jnwhiteh`	`and the links are all to the us stores either way`
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`14:06.35`	`malreth`	`is there going to be a WotLK CE?`
`14:07.24`	`batrick`	`without a doubt`
`14:07.41`	`Industrial`	`i want a penguin minipet kthx`
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`14:08.23`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Heya, malreth. Still in one piece?`
`14:08.26`	`Pneumatus`	`its a frost wyrm minipet with the LK CE`
`14:08.35`	`malreth`	`austin barely got a drop of rain from Ike`
`14:08.47`	`malreth`	`it's lunessa's home that i'm worried about`
`14:08.50`	`Pneumatus`	`originally named "Frosty"`
`14:08.51`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Good, go check your Facebook. poke`
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`14:09.05`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Yeah... I know Lunessa is safe, waiting to see how his place fared.`
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`14:09.21`	`malreth`	`had lunch and dinner with Lunessa yesterday`
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`14:09.36`	`malreth`	`kept him company and drowned our sorrows in chicken wings and beer`
`14:09.50`	`haste`	`ah damn you malreth`
`14:09.55`	`malreth`	`well, he actually had a burger and i drank all the beer`
`14:09.58`	`haste`	`I should have bought beer :(`
`14:17.37`	`Maldivia`	`hmm... Northrend on Northrend is still down...`
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`14:19.09`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Why hello, Cairenn-dear.`
`14:19.21`	`Cairenn`	`hey peppy :)`
`14:20.11`	`elite3vil`	`Maldivia: Are you surprised? lol.`
`14:22.19`	`Maldivia`	`elite3vil: well, it's been 24 hours now :)`
`14:22.23`	`Maldivia`	`elite3vil: more or less`
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`14:27.19`	`elite3vil`	`Yeah, I know.`
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`14:32.56`	`Shirik`	`AckisWork, do you use mibbit?`
`14:33.07`	`AckisWork`	`yup`
`14:34.06`	`AckisWork`	`having problems with it?`
`14:34.20`	`Shirik`	`no I was just curious about your hostmask`
`14:34.26`	`Shirik`	`since it doesn't say mibbit due to your cloak`
`14:34.38`	`AckisWork`	`ahh yah I use mibbit at work`
`14:35.10`	`Shirik`	`i=8ee55398 is typical of mibbit :)`
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`14:35.40`	`AckisWork`	`yup I think we both QQed when cairenn banned a mibbit user once lol`
`14:35.47`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Shirik, you'd play with ebola.`
`14:35.52`	`Shirik`	`I ban mibbit users all the time :)`
`14:35.57`	`Shirik`	`but I do it correctly :)`
`14:36.13`	`AckisWork`	`so does she :P lol grumbles`
`14:36.23`	`malreth`	`Shirik has a script`
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`14:36.33`	`Shirik`	`shirik is a script`
`14:36.41`	`malreth`	`that explains so much`
`14:36.45`	`Shirik`	`Lopeppeppy, I totally would`
`14:36.46`	`Lopeppeppy`	`... sniffle`
`14:36.58`	`Shirik`	`why sniffle :(`
`14:37.13`	`Lopeppeppy`	`That you're a script.`
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`14:37.22`	`Shirik`	`I'm not supposed to bE?`
`14:37.43`	`Lopeppeppy`	`No. I cannot give cookies to scripts. Only botsnacks.`
`14:37.46`	`Lopeppeppy`	`~botsnack`
`14:37.46`	`purl`	`Lopeppeppy: :)`
`14:37.51`	`Lopeppeppy`	`See?`
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`14:38.00`	`Shirik`	`:(`
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`14:38.06`	`Shirik`	`I made her leave`
`14:38.11`	`Shirik`	`oh hi :D`
`14:38.27`	`Shirik`	`eew, Trillian?`
`14:38.33`	`Shirik`	`I could never stand Trillian's IRC`
`14:38.46`	`Shirik`	`I love trillian to death, but Trillian's IRC is horrible`
`14:39.07`	`Lopeppeppy`	`The convenience of one program for all of these work accounts outweighs how much I hate the trillian IRC client`
`14:40.00`	`Lopeppeppy`	`And thanks for the reminder to set up somewhat personal bye bye messages on my work machine. :)`
`14:40.23`	`Shirik`	`Just looking out for you :)`
`14:40.43`	`Lopeppeppy`	`for which you're thoroughly adored. huggle`
`14:42.01`	`Wobin`	`Lopeppeppy: Digsby`
`14:42.54`	`Throngy`	`digsby is a bit crashy, but improving`
`14:43.03`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Wobin... what Throngy said. nod`
`14:43.22`	`Lopeppeppy`	`I have it bookmarked, but until the IT guys stop complaining about it, I has a Trillian.`
`14:44.19`	`Wobin`	`hm, I've never had it crash on me`
`14:44.22`	`Wobin`	`maybe I'm lucky`
`14:44.54`	`AckisWork`	`lol gf just sent me a message: "btw, your cat has chewed through my headset cord"`
`14:45.30`	`malreth`	`AckisWork: :D`
`14:45.31`	`Wobin`	`hehe it's your cat when it does something wrong, eh?`
`14:45.38`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Always is!`
`14:45.38`	`malreth`	`i hate it when my cat does that`
`14:46.02`	`AckisWork`	`malreth: he did that once to me during a raid`
`14:46.08`	`AckisWork`	`man I was pissed`
`14:46.09`	`malreth`	`i've lost: two sets of earbuds, three laptop chargers, and an ipod remote`
`14:47.00`	`Wobin`	`malrethkitty: I CAN HAS YOUR ATTENTION?`
`14:47.15`	`Shirik`	`Wobin: s/YOUR/UR/`
`14:47.34`	`Wobin`	`s/YO//`
`14:47.41`	`AckisWork`	`he ate a speaker cord on me too`
`14:47.42`	`Shirik`	`Wobin wins`
`14:47.50`	`Wobin`	`^^`
`14:48.16`	`Wobin`	`hehe have you seen that video on cat flossing?`
`14:48.22`	`Wobin`	`it's TERRIBLE`
`14:48.34`	`AckisWork`	`cat flossing?`
`14:48.52`	`Shirik`	`omb`
`14:48.56`	`Shirik`	`that video`
`14:49.54`	`Wobin`	`http://www.metacafe.com/fplayer/805765/how_to_untangle_headphones_using_a_cat.swf`
`14:50.47`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Kendra Cat just steals pens and claws up my desk chair and throws my mouse off the desk and chews on my lamp shade and.... nevermind. Bad cat.`
`14:51.17`	`zenzelezz`	`Lopeppeppy: like owner, like pet`
`14:51.28`	`Lopeppeppy`	`I never chew on lamp shades.`
`14:51.30`	`Lopeppeppy`	`sniff`
`14:52.01`	`Corrodias`	`you can discourage such behavior with a mild mist-spray of water`
`14:52.22`	`Lopeppeppy`	`When I catch her, she hates canned air.`
`14:52.37`	`Lopeppeppy`	`No water sprayed on my computer desk = happy electronics`
`14:52.51`	`Shirik`	`wow batrick`
`14:52.57`	`Shirik`	`#lua is so OT right now :P`
`14:53.40`	`Corrodias`	`ah yes'`
`14:53.44`	`Shirik`	`anyway, time to run for a bit`
`14:53.44`	`Shirik`	`bbl`
`14:53.47`	`AckisWork`	`I spray my cat with febreeze`
`14:53.57`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Yeep, chemicals!`
`14:54.52`	`Corrodias`	`the best i can say is that it might not be toxic`
`14:55.11`	`AckisWork`	`it makes him smell good`
`14:55.32`	`Corrodias`	`it probably isn't, since it's intended for use on furniture`
`14:55.38`	`Corrodias`	`though it's not designed for ingestion`
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`14:55.44`	`Cairenn`	`you spray your cat with febreeze?!`
`14:55.51`	`ShaneSveller`	`No`
`14:56.06`	`ShaneSveller`	`It would be toxic once they cleaned themselves with their tongues.`
`14:56.08`	`AckisWork`	`I don't make him drink it :P`
`14:56.11`	`Seerah`	`yeah, see what the can says about ingestion :P`
`14:56.30`	`AckisWork`	`it's not like the little bugger doesn't go roll around in it after I spray the bed/couch/his bed`
`14:57.03`	`Cairenn`	`oh pish tosh, don't go bringing logic into it`
`14:57.05`	`zenzelezz`	`you spray all his locations? You must be trying to kill it`
`14:57.25`	`AckisWork`	`nothing can kill him :(`
`14:57.38`	`zenzelezz`	`I find your lack of faith disturbing`
`14:57.55`	`elite3vil`	`lol.`
`14:58.38`	`Seerah`	`and then he frowns like he's been trying`
`14:58.45`	`AckisWork`	`lol`
`14:58.55`	`AckisWork`	`the stuff my cat has eaten, well it's amazing`
`14:59.22`	`Lopeppeppy`	`I only prevent my cat from eating hideous things by taking them away. We play Bigger Cat over her "kills" all the time.`
`14:59.25`	`Lopeppeppy`	`It's kind of funny`
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`14:59.54`	`AckisWork`	`yah I'm not at home all the time so he gets into trouble then`
`15:00.18`	`Lopeppeppy`	`I'm not either, all I can do is have faith that she's not having a wild cat frat party while I'm at work.`
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`15:01.19`	`AckisWork`	`that's when mine does his worst`
`15:01.23`	`ShaneSveller`	`does anyone need a/nother user to test their addon on beta?`
`15:01.36`	`ShaneSveller`	`i'm familiar with git/svn and bug reporting practices, etc.`
`15:01.50`	`Shirik`	`Pop quiz: true or false: any 32-bit int can be representable by a single-precision float`
`15:01.55`	`Lopeppeppy`	`True!`
`15:02.20`	`nevcairiel`	`ShaneSveller: just use the addons you usually use, find wotlk versions, and reports bugs in those =)`
`15:02.36`	`Shirik`	`nobody else wants to respond? :(`
`15:02.37`	`Wobin`	`night all`
`15:02.40`	`Seerah`	`false!`
`15:02.40`	`Wobin`	`False!`
`15:02.48`	`Cairenn`	`night Wobin`
`15:02.48`	`Wobin`	`(one of us will be right...)`
`15:02.51`	`Shirik`	`good`
`15:02.52`	`Seerah`	`hehe`
`15:02.54`	`nevcairiel`	`Shirik\|AFK: false`
`15:02.59`	`Lopeppeppy`	`sleep well wobin`
`15:03.03`	`Shirik`	`I just had one of my students try to convince me that it would fit`
`15:03.05`	`AckisWork`	`methinks it's false`
`15:03.11`	`AckisWork`	`you're a teacher?`
`15:03.12`	`nevcairiel`	`oh hm Shirik\|AFK comes before Shirik in my auto-complete`
`15:03.12`	`Shirik`	`and I had a 20 minute discussion trying to explain to him why it wouldn't`
`15:03.13`	`nevcairiel`	`how eird`
`15:03.17`	`Wobin`	`Shirik: Depends on how hard you shove it`
`15:03.27`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Wobin, not in public! poke`
`15:03.29`	`Shirik`	`AckisWork: lab instructor`
`15:03.32`	`nevcairiel`	`Shirik: isnt that kinda obvious, its both 32-bit, of course it fits!`
`15:03.33`	`AckisWork`	`ahh`
`15:03.38`	`Wobin`	`winkwinknudgenudge`
`15:03.38`	`Shirik`	`nevcairiel: That was his argument`
`15:03.56`	`nevcairiel`	`he probably doesnt have a clue how floats are stored`
`15:03.57`	`Shirik`	`First I tried to simply dismiss it as "Java says you can't do 'int a = 1; float b = a;" so obviously I'm right`
`15:03.58`	`nevcairiel`	`oh well :)`
`15:04.00`	`Shirik`	`He doesn't`
`15:04.04`	`Wobin`	`Any 32bit int can be representable by a single-precision float, where all 32bit ints are 0`
`15:04.12`	`nevcairiel`	`lol Wobin`
`15:04.40`	`nevcairiel`	`you can store at max a 23-bit int, iirc`
`15:04.41`	`Shirik`	`Anyway, so as I was walking over to this lab`
`15:04.59`	`Shirik`	`Actually you're slightly better`
`15:05.01`	`nevcairiel`	`8 bits for the exponent, one for signed flag`
`15:05.10`	`Shirik`	`24-bit, because floating point has an implied 1`
`15:05.20`	`nevcairiel`	`oh yeah`
`15:05.28`	`nevcairiel`	`i just rememberd it was 23 bit of actual data`
`15:05.31`	`Shirik`	`yeah :)`
`15:05.54`	`Shirik`	`Anyway, so as I was walking over here, it came to me how to implement a perfect AI`
`15:05.58`	`Shirik`	`It's genius`
`15:06.01`	`Wobin`	`With robots?`
`15:06.02`	`AckisWork`	`hamsters?`
`15:06.10`	`Shirik`	`There's this theory that goes something like this:`
`15:06.20`	`nevcairiel`	`Dont use the A, only the I?`
`15:06.33`	`Shirik`	`"All sociology is derived from biology. All biology is derived from chemistry. All chemistry is derived from physics. All physics is derived from mathematics."`
`15:06.43`	`Shirik`	`Obviously we can easily program mathematics. So here's what you do`
`15:06.44`	`ShaneSveller`	`XKCD?`
`15:07.04`	`Shirik`	`First you build a program that simulates an atom`
`15:07.09`	`doow`	`ShaneSveller: this idea is quite a lot older than xkcd`
`15:07.24`	`ShaneSveller`	`that's the most recent place i've seen it detailed though, in a hilarious manner.`
`15:07.26`	`Shirik`	`Then you combine those atoms together to build enzymes, whatever else`
`15:07.41`	`Shirik`	`If you put all of those atoms together, you should have a fully functional being`
`15:07.58`	`Shirik`	`Now all we need to do is take a consistent snapshot of the state of all of the atoms in a human body at the same time`
`15:08.07`	`Shirik`	`so we can initialize the state of the simulator`
`15:08.15`	`nevcairiel`	`lol good luck with that`
`15:08.29`	`doow`	`Shirik: and an incredibly fast comp`
`15:08.31`	`Shirik`	`it's flawless!`
`15:08.44`	`Wobin`	`need quantum computer, stat`
`15:08.45`	`Shirik`	`doow: We can do something like Prime95: Hook up all of the computers on the internet to build one giant supercomputer`
`15:08.55`	`nevcairiel`	`except, uh, no?`
`15:08.59`	`Wobin`	`Shirik: We could call it... SKYNET`
`15:09.03`	`Shirik`	`yes!`
`15:09.10`	`Wobin`	`That hasn't been used before!`
`15:09.23`	`Shirik`	`anyway, ShaneSveller, I haven't seen an XKCD post about that`
`15:09.26`	`Shirik`	`where did you see it?`
`15:09.28`	`doow`	`I think latency would kill it`
`15:09.30`	`ShaneSveller`	`1sec, it's brilliant`
`15:09.34`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Shirik, there is an xkcd. nod`
`15:09.47`	`Lopeppeppy`	`It's like Internet Law 35 or something -- if you can imagine it, it's on xkcd`
`15:09.47`	`ShaneSveller`	`http://xkcd.com/435/`
`15:09.59`	`Shirik`	`oh right that one`
`15:10.02`	`ShaneSveller`	`i LOLed quite heartily`
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`15:10.26`	`Wobin`	`Scary how the XKCD law is one after rule 34`
`15:10.28`	`Shirik`	`but yeah, this idea (and its application to AI) has been around for quite some time longer than XKCD :)`
`15:10.33`	`doow`	`darn reductionists`
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`15:10.49`	`nevcairiel`	`If you could ever measure the exact state of all atoms, you could do anything \o/`
`15:11.07`	`Shirik`	`screw heisenberg`
`15:11.09`	`Wobin`	`except know where they were going?`
`15:11.13`	`Wobin`	`=)`
`15:11.18`	`ShaneSveller`	`heh`
`15:11.26`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Crazy`
`15:11.44`	`doow`	`Shirik: actually they managed to measure particles quite recently without changing the state (or resetting it after measuring rather)`
`15:11.53`	`doow`	`I'll see if I can find the link`
`15:12.02`	`Wobin`	`Well, Lopeppeppy, you know we're never going to survive`
`15:12.06`	`Wobin`	`Unless...`
`15:12.09`	`Wobin`	`we get a little crazy`
`15:12.35`	`nevcairiel`	`reseting afterwards? I bet that is still some kind of influence, whats with the change that would have happend in the time of the measurement?`
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`15:13.30`	`amro`	`doow: even if you could do that, measuring all particles in a human body at a specific moment in time would be impossible still`
`15:13.32`	`doow`	`nevcairiel: to tell the truth I don't _understand_ particle physics, but it seems that's what they were doing`
`15:13.40`	`doow`	`amro: yeah`
`15:13.56`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Wobin, go to bed! poke`
`15:13.58`	`doow`	`amro: or really really hard at least`
`15:14.02`	`Wobin`	`Damnit`
`15:14.11`	`Wobin`	`why does the interesting conversations happen when I need to sleep?`
`15:14.13`	`nevcairiel`	`I didnt say i actually understand all of quantum/particle physics, but huh, i like to read some of the more popular theorys =P`
`15:14.22`	`Wobin`	`and my grammar is deteriorating =P`
`15:14.30`	`Seerah`	`Wobin: we just wait until you say goodnight ;)`
`15:14.40`	`Wobin`	`I hate you Seerah =(`
`15:14.46`	`Seerah`	`aww :(`
`15:14.52`	`Wobin`	`I shall make my greeting that`
`15:14.59`	`Seerah`	`:)`
`15:15.03`	`Seerah`	`there's thinking :)`
`15:15.03`	`Wobin`	`sort of reverse ugt`
`15:15.33`	`Wobin`	`You know...`
`15:15.40`	`Wobin`	`I think my first teddybear was named Robin`
`15:15.46`	`Wobin`	`... That's kinda weird`
`15:16.01`	`Seerah`	`Mine was named Teddy`
`15:16.09`	`Seerah`	`i r original`
`15:16.15`	`Shirik`	`mine was named Mushy`
`15:16.21`	`nevcairiel`	`I dont remember`
`15:16.23`	`nevcairiel`	`am i weird now?`
`15:16.27`	`Wobin`	`yes`
`15:16.28`	`Seerah`	`nah`
`15:16.59`	`Wobin`	`well, to tell truth, apparently I had a very well drooled on Pooh Bear before Robin`
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`15:17.08`	`nevcairiel`	`heh`
`15:17.29`	`Lopeppeppy`	`I had a blue bunny. He was blue bunny.`
`15:17.31`	`nevcairiel`	`I had some pink-panther, no idea if i ever named hin`
`15:17.35`	`Shirik`	`!!`
`15:17.36`	`Lopeppeppy`	`I have a blue bear now. He is blue bear.`
`15:17.49`	`Shirik`	`Apparently I'm not the only one who's come up with that idea on how to make a flawless AI`
`15:18.10`	`Shirik`	`furthermore, they've taken it a step further`
`15:18.14`	`Wobin`	`shirik: Nothing is original nowadays?`
`15:18.20`	`Shirik`	`"Based on a very reasonable model of how the brain works at the cellular level, the number of neurons in a human brain (100 billion), and the fact that memory capacity and CPU throughput double every 18 months, I predict that we will have reductionist AI (on high-end desktop workstations; supercomputers may accomplish it sooner) by 2039. "`
`15:18.25`	`Anaral`	`So release is 13th of November... how come I don't qite believe it.. or it'll be the poorest release in Blizz history`
`15:18.45`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Anaral, hmm?`
`15:18.53`	`amro`	`interesting Shirik`
`15:18.56`	`Seerah`	`peppy: WotLK`
`15:18.58`	`Shirik`	`rofl`
`15:19.00`	`Shirik`	`700Gfl for the appallingly slow rate of 1 thought per second. (1.4 Tera hertz)`
`15:19.07`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Oh, really? For Noremember it's coming out? Lovely.`
`15:19.11`	`amro`	`but while computers are getting better, programmers aren't`
`15:19.26`	`Seerah`	`http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/splash-wrathdate.htm`
`15:19.26`	`Wobin`	`It's hard to find good help nowadays`
`15:19.44`	`cbreak`	`good, or cheap? :)`
`15:19.46`	`Wobin`	`damn them`
`15:19.52`	`Wobin`	`one day 'later' in Oz =P`
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`15:20.14`	`doow`	`nm, I can't find it, so feel free to think of it as bunk, especially since it didn't make a larger splash than it did`
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`15:20.35`	`Seerah`	`Wobin, do I need to tuck you in again?`
`15:20.36`	`Seerah`	`:)`
`15:20.48`	`Wobin`	`Yes =(`
`15:21.17`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Seerah, I read that seriously and totally and horribly wrong.`
`15:21.22`	`Seerah`	`lol`
`15:21.23`	`Lopeppeppy`	`I think this is the Naughty Corner....`
`15:21.25`	`Shirik`	`It's sad that we already are approaching the point where we have enough storage space for the human brain: 51200 Tera bits of memory (6,400 Tera bytes)`
`15:21.43`	`ShaneSveller`	`that's all they estimate for it?`
`15:21.53`	`Shirik`	`he has calculations to prove it`
`15:21.59`	`doow`	`well, I can't even remember the shopping list`
`15:22.03`	`zenzelezz`	`my rooms only have naughty corners`
`15:22.11`	`Wobin`	`It's round =)`
`15:22.15`	`nevcairiel`	`Shirik: including the meta-data?`
`15:22.54`	`Shirik`	`http://wowi.pastey.net/96135`
`15:23.03`	`ShaneSveller`	`Gfl being gigaflops?`
`15:23.07`	`Shirik`	`ya`
`15:24.12`	`ShaneSveller`	`hmph. interesting read.`
`15:24.29`	`ShaneSveller`	`i don't think moore's law will hold true for much longer though until someone comes up with an entirely new microchip design`
`15:24.37`	`Shirik`	`I agree`
`15:24.49`	`nevcairiel`	`If anyone didng get one yet, Bluepost just said the Authenticator is in Stock again`
`15:24.51`	`ShaneSveller`	`i agree with the pundits that we'll be using octo-core machines in a few years though`
`15:25.06`	`cbreak`	`I use an octo core machine.`
`15:25.08`	`ShaneSveller`	`more cores is a lot more likely than higher clock`
`15:25.10`	`Shirik`	`erm`
`15:25.11`	`doow`	`well, by that logic we could simulate everything in the universe or even two universes some time in the future, that doesn't mean that we will (especially since the easiest way to simulate the universe is to build an identical universe, which will take all the matter in the universe...)`
`15:25.18`	`Shirik`	`I intend to be using one in the next few months :)`
`15:25.35`	`nevcairiel`	`Whats with that memristor tec? Could that bring moores law back on track?`
`15:25.36`	`ShaneSveller`	`cbreak: we can't all have dual-cpu mobos to play with =P`
`15:25.45`	`Shirik`	`nevcairiel: memristors are looking good`
`15:25.46`	`Shirik`	`really good`
`15:25.49`	`zenzelezz`	`nevcairiel: don't think that's used in the same way`
`15:26.01`	`zenzelezz`	`but I may have misunderstood the details`
`15:26.37`	`zenzelezz`	`I thought at least that they're more about power consumption, in that they don't require current to keep their state (non-volatile?)`
`15:26.45`	`cbreak`	`moores law is about transistor density`
`15:27.15`	`Shirik`	`zenzelezz, there's a lot of things good about them :)`
`15:27.25`	`nevcairiel`	`zenzelezz: well you can design totally new stuff with them`
`15:27.37`	`zenzelezz`	`Shirik: oh, I know they're awesome, I just didn't think they were relevant to CPU design`
`15:27.37`	`nevcairiel`	`so we'll see`
`15:27.45`	`Shirik`	`but they operate very similar to a PNP transistor actually`
`15:27.50`	`Shirik`	`at least, they can be used in a similar fashion`
`15:28.20`	`zenzelezz`	`I'm not good with electronics, so I'm half expecting to be proved wrong`
`15:28.40`	`Shirik`	`Well half of the problem is nobody really knows exactly what they're good for (at least ALL that they're good for`
`15:28.51`	`Shirik`	`yes, they will likely replace transistors in SSDs because they're so much smaller`
`15:29.02`	`nevcairiel`	`whats the physical limit for transistor density? Sometime you reach the atom-barrier`
`15:29.14`	`Shirik`	`They're also good as a crossbar latch so they can be used for RAM, CPU, whatever`
`15:29.22`	`doow`	`nevcairiel: well, that assumes you're making them out of atoms`
`15:29.26`	`cbreak`	`do you want to make your cpus with photo techniques?`
`15:29.38`	`zenzelezz`	`didn't they create a single-molecule transistor some time ago in the labs?`
`15:29.50`	`nevcairiel`	`doow: well i kinda was *shrug`
`15:29.54`	`Shirik`	`that shouldn't be possible, based on my knowledge of how a transistor works`
`15:29.56`	`nevcairiel`	`there has to be some physical limit right now`
`15:29.57`	`cbreak`	`then you will have problems with interferences of the EM wave you use to "print" the circuits I guess`
`15:30.16`	`doow`	`nevcairiel: yeah, some physical limit, I just didn't assume it was above atom level`
`15:30.43`	`nevcairiel`	`Next intel iteration is 32nm .. that seems really small already`
`15:30.56`	`zenzelezz`	`Shirik: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/06/050608055511.htm`
`15:31.15`	`Shirik`	`oh, molecule`
`15:31.18`	`Shirik`	`this is why I'm not a chemist`
`15:31.23`	`Shirik`	`I was thinking atom`
`15:31.35`	`ShaneSveller`	`naturally as soon as they price-drop that E8400 i've been eying, they go and announce a new architecture...bastards.`
`15:31.40`	`Shirik`	`my response was about to be: A transistor is composed of three doped layers of some semiconductor (everyone knows silicon) sandwiched together. So it couldn't possibly be only one atom because you need at least 3 to make the set`
`15:32.18`	`nevcairiel`	`ShaneSveller: i've been thinking about upgrading, but not before the Core i7`
`15:32.32`	`zenzelezz`	`i7?`
`15:32.46`	`nevcairiel`	`Nehalem`
`15:32.49`	`Shirik`	`that's interesting zenzelezz :)`
`15:32.53`	`Shirik`	`though sounds expensive and precise`
`15:33.04`	`ShaneSveller`	`nevcairiel: my mobo will support the e8400 with a bios update, but not the e8500 because of the multi`
`15:33.16`	`ShaneSveller`	`nehelem sounds awesome though`
`15:33.23`	`nevcairiel`	`HT and SMT back`
`15:33.35`	`nevcairiel`	`good use of my cores`
`15:34.14`	`doow`	`Shirik: well, transistor replaced vacuum tubes, giving a whole new technology of doing the same thing, I was just thinking that you could achieve the same effect in a completely new way, and for the purpose of this discussion it's not really the 3-layer architecture that's important`
`15:34.15`	`zenzelezz`	`processors these days are getting really hard core ;-o`
`15:34.25`	`doow`	`zenzelezz: groan`
`15:34.27`	`doow`	`=)`
`15:34.32`	`nevcairiel`	`And intel finally pimped their FSB`
`15:34.41`	`ShaneSveller`	`nevcairiel: not super-super useful until the rest of our software/games takes more advantage of threading, but still awesome.`
`15:34.59`	`ShaneSveller`	`not like i need a core for each of the apps i run all day long, lol`
`15:35.16`	`nevcairiel`	`Well yeah, but SMT and HT in tandem can really boost performance, if used properly`
`15:35.28`	`nevcairiel`	`and that on a 4-core or even more`
`15:35.32`	`nevcairiel`	`drool`
`15:35.33`	`doow`	`of course, prediction is always hard, especially of the future (or however that quote goes)`
`15:35.47`	`ShaneSveller`	`wtb 8core + 4GB of DDR3`
`15:36.11`	`ShaneSveller`	`doow: i think it uses something about uncertainty, don't entirely recall`
`15:36.17`	`nevcairiel`	`8 core with HT would look like 16 cores to the OS`
`15:36.18`	`nevcairiel`	`how crazy`
`15:36.38`	`ShaneSveller`	`yeah. and a linux/unix os is the only platform likely to take great advantage of it, at least early on`
`15:37.11`	`doow`	`I gotta go =( this was the most interesting discussion I've had in a long time. Please find a solution until I get back tomorrow ^^`
`15:37.38`	`cbreak`	`x264 --threads auto rocks on multi core machines`
`15:38.12`	`cbreak`	`I get almost a speedup of factor 8. Of course, not everything is as easy to paralellize.`
`15:39.01`	`nevcairiel`	`amazingly, while playing wow, both my cores hang around 80-90%`
`15:39.14`	`ShaneSveller`	`wow, wtf?`
`15:39.59`	`nevcairiel`	`I wish i had good stats on how much load my GPU has`
`15:39.59`	`cbreak`	`I didn't think that wow makes use of multiple cpus`
`15:40.11`	`nevcairiel`	`cbreak: it does, they patched that in some time ago`
`15:40.14`	`ShaneSveller`	`doesn't`
`15:40.31`	`ShaneSveller`	`didn't* lol`
`15:40.58`	`ShaneSveller`	`nevcairiel: what cpu do you have?`
`15:41.12`	`nevcairiel`	`C2D 6750`
`15:41.22`	`ShaneSveller`	`i have a q6600 that hovers around 30% on two cores`
`15:41.25`	`nevcairiel`	`*E6750`
`15:41.41`	`Adys`	`Syzgyn\|sleep: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/33769 - updated it in case you're still around :p think i fixed it in opera but i need to confirm`
`15:41.44`	`cbreak`	`E5462. My number is lower :(`
`15:42.39`	`ShaneSveller`	`well, g'day folks, off to snag Rock Band 2 while out on lunch`
`15:42.40`	`nevcairiel`	`ShaneSveller: yeah i dont think it really uses quad that much`
`15:43.02`	`ShaneSveller`	`but if your clock speed is faster you'd think the 2 cores of mine it does use would have to work harder`
`15:43.04`	`nevcairiel`	`the GFX thread on one core, everything else on the other`
`15:43.12`	`nevcairiel`	`my guess`
`15:43.49`	`ShaneSveller`	`yeah. Crysis shunts the physics engine out too, a few new games do, in place of/cooperation with PhysX`
`15:44.02`	`Shirik`	`~ping`
`15:44.03`	`purl`	`~pong`
`15:44.25`	`Shirik`	`why is my email always down ffs`
`15:44.39`	`ShaneSveller`	`later =)`
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`15:57.23`	`Shirik`	`So there's no pve-based premade beta characters, ya?`
`15:57.37`	`nevcairiel`	`level your own char, ffs!`
`15:57.40`	`cbreak`	`no premades yet`
`15:57.52`	`Shirik`	`there's definitely premades`
`15:57.54`	`Shirik`	`I have one already`
`15:57.59`	`Shirik`	`nevcairiel: I thought about it, but takes so long...`
`15:58.05`	`cbreak`	`yes, for the lazy americans`
`15:58.07`	`nevcairiel`	`You silly US people have 3 freaking servers, and we in EU have one! so at least play your damn char =P`
`15:58.24`	`Shirik`	`3 servers, yes`
`15:58.32`	`Shirik`	`how many are actually playable :P`
`15:58.44`	`cbreak`	`EU has more players`
`15:58.49`	`cbreak`	`but only one server`
`15:58.54`	`Shirik`	`EU also has people with a brain`
`15:59.04`	`Shirik`	`we're full of little kids that think they're on top of the world`
`15:59.14`	`jaxdahl`	`i did a full clear of 10 man naxx yesterday`
`15:59.23`	`cbreak`	`we too. eu forums are full of them :/`
`15:59.26`	`Shirik`	`that's what we're trying to do, jaxdahl`
`15:59.42`	`jaxdahl`	`took about 8 hours, including breaks, pretty much PUG style`
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`15:59.56`	`nevcairiel`	`8 hours without a server reboot or instance crash?`
`15:59.58`	`cbreak`	`I won't waste my time on beta with pve or pvp stuff`
`15:59.59`	`Shirik`	`also, it says I can't copy my character so`
`15:59.59`	`nevcairiel`	`I wish we had that here`
`16:00.07`	`cbreak`	`I'll do that enough once it gets released`
`16:00.15`	`jaxdahl`	`one world server restart while we did a GY run`
`16:00.18`	`Cide`	`shirik!`
`16:00.31`	`Shirik`	`has anyone else had that problem?`
`16:00.32`	`Shirik`	`Hi Cide`
`16:02.07`	`Cide`	`Shirik: do you think there's a way faster than O(min(x,y)) for finding the integer solutions to (1-x*a)/(y+a) (given x and y)?`
`16:02.28`	`Cide`	`can brute force it in min(x,y)`
`16:02.43`	`Shirik`	`given x and y, solve for a`
`16:02.43`	`Shirik`	`?`
`16:02.47`	`Cide`	`ya`
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`16:03.24`	`Shirik`	`find the roots you mean?`
`16:03.29`	`Cide`	`well`
`16:03.50`	`Cide`	`given x,y, find the values of a such that (1-x*a) = n(y+a), n integer`
`16:04.44`	`Cide`	`a integer too, iirc (asking on behalf of a friend)`
`16:04.47`	`Shirik`	`I have an O(1) solution`
`16:04.53`	`Cide`	`really`
`16:05.05`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Would I be behind the times in saying: Blizzard Entertainment's second expansion to World of Warcraft -- Wrath of the Lich King -- will be in stores on November 13 in North America, Europe, Mexico, Argentina, Chile, and Russia, and on November 14 in Australia, New Zealand, Thailand, Singapore, and Malaysia. ?`
`16:05.08`	`Cide`	`what approach is that?`
`16:05.36`	`Cide`	`"for a given x,y, iterate over -inf to +inf. this takes constant time."? :P`
`16:05.38`	`Shirik`	`assuming -x-n != 0 and y+a != 0, (ny-1)/(-x-n)=a`
`16:05.52`	`Cide`	`yeah, but then you're iterating over n`
`16:05.57`	`Cide`	`which is no better than iterating over a`
`16:05.59`	`Shirik`	`what are you asking?`
`16:06.12`	`Shirik`	`I assumed we were given x,y,n`
`16:06.17`	`Cide`	`no`
`16:06.39`	`Shirik`	`oh`
`16:06.42`	`Shirik`	`ohhh I see now`
`16:06.44`	`Cide`	`"given x,y, find the integer values of a such that (1-x*a)\|(y+a)"`
`16:06.47`	`Shirik`	`got it`
`16:07.22`	`Shirik`	`such that n % 1 = 0?`
`16:07.31`	`Cide`	`well`
`16:07.37`	`Cide`	`such that (1-x*a)%(y+a) == 0`
`16:07.42`	`Cide`	`could look at it either way`
`16:07.48`	`Shirik`	`ok`
`16:07.57`	`Cide`	`that's equivalent to n % 1 == 0`
`16:08.09`	`Shirik`	`there's got to be a real solution to this`
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`16:08.24`	`Shirik`	`Let's take the DTFT of the equation`
`16:08.30`	`Shirik`	`batrick, gogo!`
`16:08.35`	`Shirik`	`z plane transform`
`16:09.29`	`Shirik`	`If we assume x = nu[n] and y = nu[n]`
`16:09.42`	`cbreak`	`nu?`
`16:09.49`	`Shirik`	`n * u`
`16:10.01`	`Cide`	`nou?`
`16:10.13`	`Cide`	`I'll leave that to you Shirik, that's out of my league :P`
`16:10.29`	`Lopeppeppy`	`zenzelezz!`
`16:10.31`	`Shirik`	`then we can convolve the two elements to obtain all possible solutions`
`16:10.52`	`Shirik`	`and convolving the sequence is the same as multiplying the z transforms`
`16:11.08`	`cbreak`	`:O`
`16:11.36`	`Shirik`	`and nx[n] <-> -z(dX(z)/dz)X(z)`
`16:11.58`	`zenzelezz`	`Lopeppeppy?`
`16:12.02`	`Shirik`	`u[n] <-> 1/(1-z^-1)`
`16:12.06`	`Shirik`	`I'm lost`
`16:12.08`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Hai2U.`
`16:12.08`	`Shirik`	`I give up Cide`
`16:12.09`	`Lopeppeppy`	`*grin8`
`16:12.18`	`zenzelezz`	`I'm confused`
`16:12.18`	`Cide`	`no, it sounds good in theory!`
`16:12.31`	`Shirik`	`I think there's some magic that you can do with convolution here`
`16:12.34`	`Lopeppeppy`	`zenzelezz... just pouncing. Don't worry too much, I do that sometimes.`
`16:12.34`	`Cide`	`"it is sometimes convenient to say that the DTFT is a transform to a "finite" frequency-domain (the length of one period), rather than to the entire real line."`
`16:12.36`	`Cide`	`sounds good to me!`
`16:12.48`	`Shirik`	`DTFT is the fourier transform`
`16:12.53`	`Shirik`	`I want the Z transform though :)`
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`16:13.01`	`Cide`	`don't look at me`
`16:13.02`	`Shirik`	`which are very related`
`16:13.08`	`zenzelezz`	`Lopeppeppy: I'll crawl back under my blanket and keep reading then. There's room for two if you'd like to join`
`16:13.31`	`Shirik`	`But you're literally right at the limit of what I'm learning in mathematics Cide`
`16:13.36`	`Shirik`	`and so... I'm not really good at this yet`
`16:13.38`	`Lopeppeppy`	`What are we reading?`
`16:13.48`	`Shirik`	`I'm fairly certain that's where a good solution lies, though`
`16:13.57`	`zenzelezz`	`"The Naked God", last book in the "Night's Dawn" trilogy`
`16:14.35`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Peter Hamilton? Never read anything of his. ashamed`
`16:15.07`	`zenzelezz`	`if you're into sci-fi, I'd recommend this series`
`16:15.17`	`Gnarfoz`	`I've read the first one of that trilogy, missing the later 2. :(`
`16:15.35`	`zenzelezz`	`each of the three books are around 1200 pages, but worth it if it's your sort of thing`
`16:15.50`	`Lopeppeppy`	`I totally am, zenzelezz. I'm on a history kick right now, Eleanor of Aquitane.`
`16:15.54`	`Lopeppeppy`	`http://www.amazon.com/Eleanor-Aquitaine-Ballantine-Readers-Circle/dp/0345434870/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1221495295&sr=8-1`
`16:15.55`	`Anaral`	`So is Northrend fubar'd or think they'll fix it anytime soon?`
`16:16.13`	`elite3vil`	`was down like, all day yesterday too`
`16:16.44`	`Cide`	`Shirik: alright, thanks :)`
`16:16.56`	`Shirik`	`Sorry I couldn't do much more`
`16:17.02`	`Shirik`	`I can ask my signals prof is he has any ideas`
`16:17.06`	`Shirik`	`He does this crap in his sleep`
`16:17.11`	`Shirik`	`and then he's like "why don't you get this! You're stupid!`
`16:17.25`	`Cide`	`just reply "yep". we all know it's the truth.`
`16:19.28`	`clad\|away`	`lol`
`16:19.40`	`clad\|away`	`lua_bot should be okay :P`
`16:19.43`	`clad\|away`	`I think ;-)`
`16:20.18`	`Shirik`	`Shiibot doesn't care about usernames except for keys in tables (which obviously is ok)`
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`16:23.16`	`foxlit`	`# GOO-GLE-MI-NA-TE!`
`16:24.25`	`Cide`	`it'd be funny if \0 crashes me`
`16:24.27`	`Cide`	`since nothing else can`
`16:24.54`	`Fogger`	`would this work? allowing me to choose the texture frame with an argument? http://pastey.net/96140`
`16:25.28`	`Cide`	`uh, sure?`
`16:25.45`	`Maldivia`	`Fogger: it should, yeah`
`16:25.56`	`Fogger`	`excellent, thanks :)`
`16:26.05`	`Fogger`	`thought I was getting a head of myself there :P`
`16:39.35`	`kd3`	`yay for a penny arcade I can completely agree with... http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/9/15/consensus/`
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`16:46.06`	`ckknight`	`lol, kd3`
`16:46.09`	`ckknight`	`birds.`
`16:47.54`	`Maldivia`	`wow... they are actually restarting northrend!`
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`16:54.14`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Sitting in the front row during a rather boring lecture was a mistake in the first place`
`16:54.25`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Taking a muscle relaxant before heading off the class was a bigger mistake :P`
`16:55.00`	`Thunder_Child`	`i hope you only fell asleep`
`16:55.15`	`Thunder_Child`	`i can think of worse that a muscle relaxant can do`
`16:55.23`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I just sat down, there's still hope`
`16:55.57`	`Thunder_Child`	`need help staying awake then?`
`16:56.17`	`ScytheBlade1`	`The sound is muted and I don't have flash installed :P`
`16:56.46`	`Thunder_Child`	`well i was thinking of the face stabing knife through the internet`
`16:57.10`	`ScytheBlade1`	`lol`
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`17:03.17`	`kd3`	`yay, looks like northrend's getting restarted`
`17:05.35`	`Thunder_Child`	`i havent been on in a while, that bad?`
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`17:05.56`	`kd3`	`it's been horrendous since the massive batch of opt-ins went out last week`
`17:06.51`	`Thunder_Child`	`i wonder if they are streched thin since they also have the ptr up`
`17:09.42`	`ScytheBlade1`	`so tired`
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`17:12.07`	`AckisWork`	`question for all the ladies: is it a womanly thing to want to pop pimples on your significant other?`
`17:14.26`	`Maldivia`	`kd3?`
`17:14.34`	`kd3`	`hm?`
`17:14.49`	`Maldivia`	`of I find you, can I bug you for a portal to dalaran?`
`17:14.56`	`kd3`	`...`
`17:14.59`	`kd3`	`I'm in Zul'Drak`
`17:15.04`	`Maldivia`	`yeah, saw that`
`17:15.05`	`ccox`	`the lag and instability also came about the same time as the last patch`
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`17:15.50`	`Maldivia`	`well, if I'm close to you at some point, and haven't gotten a port/summon before that :)`
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`17:23.18`	`Thunder_Child`	`"Finally - A game that lets you park a DeLorean knockoff on the curb and have a pack of pink shinobis jump out to start claming the streets"`
`17:27.35`	`krka`	`AckisWork: dont know, but my wife does do that`
`17:27.54`	`Anaral`	`I'd have to safely say, no, I don't ever want to pop pimples on my SO or myself. :p`
`17:28.11`	`AckisWork`	`lol`
`17:28.42`	`AckisWork`	`my gf has been doing that to me all week`
`17:29.13`	`krka`	`two examples is proof enough for me`
`17:29.20`	`krka`	`Anaral is clearly abnormal`
`17:29.33`	`krka`	`further proof, she claims to be female on irc`
`17:29.49`	`AckisWork`	`keyword: claims`
`17:30.51`	`krka`	`hm, i must be getting old, i have a wife, soon a kid, and i don't play much games any more :(`
`17:31.11`	`NeoTron`	`I have a wife, 2 kids and play games much >:-)`
`17:31.30`	`krka`	`clearly you are older then`
`17:31.46`	`krka`	`and apparently more kids mean more gaming`
`17:31.52`	`NeoTron`	`twins`
`17:32.05`	`krka`	`jackpot on the first try, nice`
`17:32.11`	`NeoTron`	`they game with me (well next to me, playing Toontown Online >:-)`
`17:32.43`	`krka`	`reminds me of the title of a 6FU episode - "parellel play"`
`17:33.29`	`NeoTron`	`so.. I read 6 FU as 6 Frost Unholy`
`17:33.31`	`NeoTron`	`DK much?`
`17:33.43`	`smcn`	`lol`
`17:34.28`	`krka`	`six feet under in this case, i can't be bothered with silly game abbreviations`
`17:35.24`	`krka`	`how old are the twins then? actually, i only need to know how old one of them is`
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`17:39.24`	`zenzelezz`	`hm, VLC 0.9 finally`
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`17:59.21`	`p3lim`	`using InterfaceOptionsSliderTemplate, how do I access the 'High' and 'Low' fontstrings?`
`18:01.24`	`Slakah`	`according to file:///E:/DOCUME~1/James/LOCALS~1/Temp/7zO83.tmp/OptionsFrameTemplates.xml OptionsSliderTemplateHigh and OptionsSliderTemplateLow`
`18:01.40`	`Slakah`	`oops meant to give wdn link`
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`18:02.48`	`kd3`	`sigh. northrend's about to take a dive`
`18:03.25`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`p3lim: getglobal(mySlider:GetName()..'Low') i think would work`
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`18:04.00`	`p3lim`	`NightHawkTheSane: already tried that, failed`
`18:04.21`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`hm.`
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`18:06.04`	`Lunessa`	`... station`
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`18:07.28`	`p3lim`	`Interface\AddOns\pMinimap\pMinimapConfig.lua:28: attempt to concatenate a nil value`
`18:07.40`	`Slakah`	`your frame doesnt have a name`
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`18:07.42`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`p3lim: that seems to work for me. does your slider have a name? >.>`
`18:07.44`	`p3lim`	`line28: getglobal(panel.scale:GetName()..'Low'):SetText('0.5')`
`18:08.08`	`Slakah`	`hey that rhyms`
`18:08.10`	`p3lim`	`no..`
`18:08.18`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`... that would be the problem. name it.`
`18:08.23`	`p3lim`	`hm`
`18:08.53`	`p3lim`	`worked, thanks`
`18:09.32`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`heh, sure :)`
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`18:19.01`	`TecnoBrat`	`does anyone know a bug in wow's lua code in beta that causes a crash in the osx client?`
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`18:19.22`	`TecnoBrat`	`right now, the wowhead looter causes the mac client to crash completely`
`18:19.43`	`TecnoBrat`	`not really sure why yet, its hard to debug when you don't have a mac :P`
`18:20.28`	`selckin`	`questhelper description on the sites has some warnings about crashing on mac`
`18:20.37`	`selckin`	`maybe it has more info i don't remember`
`18:21.10`	`batrick`	`oya`
`18:21.29`	`batrick`	`haro shirik`
`18:22.56`	`p3lim`	`anyone knows the usage of OpenColorPicker() ?`
`18:23.04`	`p3lim`	`couldnt find any docs`
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`18:23.33`	`Maldivia`	`that's a drop down menu function, right?`
`18:24.14`	`p3lim`	`might be`
`18:24.24`	`p3lim`	`it opens the color palette`
`18:24.49`	`Maldivia`	`look in UIDropDownMenu.lua, at the bottom - there's the definition of that function`
`18:25.00`	`foxlit`	`grr, companions`
`18:25.03`	`Maldivia`	`then you can see what it expects the table it takes as argument shoud have`
`18:25.12`	`foxlit`	`Pick up a companion, call GetCursorInfo() get completely bogus results`
`18:25.42`	`p3lim`	`err..`
`18:25.43`	`p3lim`	`http://wowcompares.com/2438606/FrameXML/UIDropDownMenu.xml`
`18:25.53`	`p3lim`	`that like 30 lines tops, doesnt say any about it`
`18:25.55`	`foxlit`	`Anyone figured that out?`
`18:26.07`	`foxlit`	`.lua, not .xml`
`18:27.14`	`alestane`	`foxlit: What sort of results?`
`18:27.22`	`foxlit`	`"spell", 0, "spell"`
`18:27.33`	`alestane`	`Yeah, that's fairly useless.`
`18:27.38`	`foxlit`	`(GetSpellInfo(0) is nil, too)`
`18:27.47`	`TecnoBrat`	`looks like thats another bug (the mac bug)`
`18:28.34`	`batrick`	`what kind of question is: "Draw a diagram to capture the process of buying an airplane ticket for a business trip"`
`18:28.42`	`batrick`	`Software Engineering`
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`18:30.00`	`Maldivia`	`batrick: a use case diagram, I would suspect?`
`18:30.01`	`foxlit`	`meh, the usual draw-a-diagram one.`
`18:30.20`	`batrick`	`you all took my question literally : /`
`18:31.07`	`Maldivia`	`note to self - don't take anthing batrick says literal from now on`
`18:31.16`	`alestane`	`foxlit: I take it you've tried it for multiple mounts and critters?`
`18:31.37`	`foxlit`	`I have no critters :(`
`18:31.42`	`Maldivia`	`companion curson info has been non-existing since it was added`
`18:31.44`	`Maldivia`	`foxlit: check your mail`
`18:32.02`	`foxlit`	`Maldivia: my mail has no critters, either.`
`18:32.15`	`alestane`	`Nothing from Master Handler Sylvester?`
`18:32.21`	`foxlit`	`EU`
`18:32.47`	`foxlit`	`So no blizzard account penguins for me`
`18:32.53`	`Thunder_Child`	`s/EU/ewwww/`
`18:33.46`	`foxlit`	`but as for multiple mounts, then, yes, they all return the same thing`
`18:35.13`	`alestane`	`Does it make any difference whether you pick them up out of your mounts tab or out of the action slot?`
`18:35.52`	`foxlit`	`It does not`
`18:36.06`	`Maldivia`	`foxlit: then go to SW, IF, Exodar and buy a few`
`18:36.34`	`foxlit`	`Maldivia: I'm not _that_ interested in whether anything special happens with critters`
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`18:37.13`	`foxlit`	`The mount behavior is more or less a bug, and I'd be happier if it was fixed :)`
`18:37.33`	`alestane`	`Foxlit: perhaps not, but the more info we have about what's happening, the faster the source gets narrowed down.`
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`18:38.09`	`Tornhoof`	`anyone worked with the new secure headers in here?, i've a question about the show()/hide() in _onenter`
`18:38.42`	`alestane`	`~asktoask`
`18:38.42`	`purl`	`This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.`
`18:39.20`	`alestane`	`And yes, I know a thing or two about the secure handlers.`
`18:39.30`	`Thunder_Child`	`heh alestane`
`18:39.32`	`Tornhoof`	`i imagine so`
`18:39.38`	`Thunder_Child`	`just a bit`
`18:40.14`	`Tornhoof`	`self:GetChildren() is suppposed to return only the protected frames during combat`
`18:40.49`	`Tornhoof`	`but why do all my buttons return 1 1 on print(button:IsProtected()) during regen phase, but won't be included in the getchildren() return values?`
`18:41.30`	`alestane`	`I think that may have changed. But I do know that you can't retrieve information from a frame handle during combat is that frame isn't explicitly protected.`
`18:41.53`	`alestane`	`Your frames return two 1s? They inherit from a protected template?`
`18:41.58`	`Tornhoof`	`yes`
`18:42.05`	`Tornhoof`	`http://wowuidev.pastey.net/96144`
`18:42.37`	`Tornhoof`	`if i place a print(button:IsProtected()) in line 48 i will get 1 1 on every mouse over`
`18:43.31`	`alestane`	`You may want to migrate to self:GetChildList, it will allow you to reuse the table.`
`18:44.18`	`alestane`	`local buttons = self:GetChildList(buttons or table.new());`
`18:45.19`	`alestane`	`Wait, how many 1 1 lines?`
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`18:45.46`	`foxlit`	`hooking PickupCompanion is probably one way to find out what's on the cursor`
`18:45.54`	`Tornhoof`	`heh`
`18:45.58`	`Tornhoof`	`it works with getchildlist`
`18:46.33`	`alestane`	`In fact, take off the local.`
`18:46.49`	`Tornhoof`	`it works with`
`18:46.49`	`Tornhoof`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:46.49`	`Tornhoof`	`buttons = self:GetChildList(buttons)`
`18:47.22`	`Tornhoof`	`which technically should be same as my previous code`
`18:47.27`	`Tornhoof`	`but since it does work now`
`18:47.34`	`Tornhoof`	`i guess getchildren() is broken ;)`
`18:48.04`	`alestane`	`Well, I think you'll find buttons = self:GetChildList(buttons or table.new()); will produce the best perfomance...no garbage tables. I'll see if it's a bug causing it to not work with :GetChildren.`
`18:49.57`	`Tornhoof`	`thanks for your help`
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`19:19.29`	`foxlit`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTSkWnKs9rM << could've been even more awesome`
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`19:26.38`	`Cide`	`foxlit: couldn't have been*`
`19:26.43`	`Cide`	`couldn't have been more awesome*`
`19:27.24`	`foxlit`	`I don't know, there's something static about the gnome during choruses`
`19:27.35`	`foxlit`	`Doesn't quite match the music`
`19:30.52`	`alestane`	`foxlit: I'll see if it's possible to fix the companion issue, but at this point no-one is in a position to promise anything.`
`19:31.03`	`Cide`	`foxlit: oh, I meant the song`
`19:31.58`	`foxlit`	`alestane: it's a very short workaround if you can write secure code.`
`19:32.35`	`alestane`	`Not without approval. And I think if we can, we'd rather fix it at the source.`
`19:32.36`	`foxlit`	`(or, perhaps, not -- I'm thinking only of dragging from the companions tab, not action bars and so on)`
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`19:43.58`	`Dashkal`	`Did docs ever appear for the new secure code (been too busy leveling to pay attention).`
`19:45.20`	`kd3`	`iriel's written a pdf`
`19:45.29`	`kd3`	`it should be in the 3.0 changes sticky`
`19:45.30`	`Dashkal`	`ooo`
`19:45.43`	`Dashkal`	`sweet. danke. And danke, Iriel.`
`19:45.59`	`Dashkal`	`I _can_ read source, but docs are so much easier to digest`
`19:46.00`	`Iriel`	`It's pretty comprehensive, except for examples which you'll have to glean from elsewhere for now`
`19:46.37`	`Dashkal`	`Now that there's a time limit, I suppose I should actually get to work if I want that bar mod of mine to see the light of day.`
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`19:54.41`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`I don't suppose Northrend (the continent) is stable?`
`19:55.39`	`zenzelezz`	`"Ninja cat comes closer while not moving!" -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muLIPWjks_M (might've been already linked)`
`19:57.42`	`kd3`	`rofl`
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`19:58.22`	`NeoTron`	`hehe`
`19:58.23`	`NeoTron`	`nice`
`19:58.31`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`and the answer to my question is 'No, it's not even up'`
`20:01.37`	`kd3`	`whee, 10k rep to exalted`
`20:02.54`	`alestane`	`Tornhoof: I've tracked down your problem with :GetChildren. The good news is, it's a known bug, we have a fix, and this fix should appear in the next build.`
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`20:06.36`	`End`	`:o`
`20:06.51`	`End`	`under wine the background downloader shows up in the notification area`
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`20:07.52`	`ArrowmasterClass`	`wtb power`
`20:08.13`	`Arrowmaster`	`still running off the 300watt inverter in my car`
`20:08.18`	`kd3`	`arrow; still no eta from the power company?`
`20:08.37`	`Arrowmaster`	`the last eta was "days" to restore power to everybody`
`20:08.50`	`kd3`	`at least it's not "weeks"`
`20:08.51`	`Arrowmaster`	`since theres over 100,000 customers without power lastnight`
`20:09.05`	`Arrowmaster`	`cinci had over 600,000`
`20:09.54`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I, for one, welcome our new google navy: http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/article4753389.ece`
`20:09.55`	`Arrowmaster`	`oh wait an update`
`20:09.58`	`Arrowmaster`	`http://www.whiotv.com/weather/17469580/detail.html`
`20:10.09`	`Arrowmaster`	`225,000 without power`
`20:10.58`	`Arrowmaster`	`so yeah 'most of the week' is the new eta`
`20:11.49`	`End`	`that sounds...`
`20:11.53`	`End`	`really shitty :(`
`20:12.07`	`Arrowmaster`	`it is`
`20:12.13`	`Arrowmaster`	`somebody send me a generator`
`20:12.21`	`Arrowmaster`	`oh and plenty of gas since the pumps arent working`
`20:12.37`	`Arrowmaster`	`no power to pump them!`
`20:12.55`	`Arrowmaster`	`or no connection to the CC company to pay for them!`
`20:14.09`	`NeoTron`	`so anyone know why x-perl can't right click off buffs anymore? I assume that the api changed and x-perl isn't updated yet?`
`20:14.22`	`kd3`	`buff frames are secure now`
`20:14.35`	`foxlit`	`did they revert the revert?`
`20:14.42`	`NeoTron`	`what's so bad about buff frames?`
`20:14.55`	`kd3`	`decision-making capability, still. somehow`
`20:15.14`	`End`	`is automatically unclicking buffs really that bad? :-/`
`20:15.51`	`NeoTron`	`I hope it is possible to make it so you can right click them off, switching the code to use secure frames?`
`20:16.00`	`NeoTron`	`because it's a pretty essential piece of functionality`
`20:16.10`	`Xinhuan`	`err isn't it already reverted?`
`20:16.23`	`NeoTron`	`is it? I swear in this last patch it still didn't work`
`20:16.31`	`foxlit`	`kd3: you're out-of-date`
`20:16.35`	`kd3`	`bah`
`20:16.43`	`foxlit`	`They renamed the API call, but it isn't protected`
`20:17.18`	`NeoTron`	`ah`
`20:17.25`	`NeoTron`	`so x-perl needs to change the name and it should work`
`20:17.55`	`foxlit`	`If they settle on it being unprotected.`
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`20:20.24`	`alestane`	`Tornhoof: My recommended solution once GetChildren works properly: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/96146`
`20:21.51`	`NeoTron`	`any word on a builtin omen-like threat UI yet? I was going to try diamondthreat that is supposed to work on lk but got stuck in space when trying to zone so never got to it`
`20:22.10`	`Tornhoof`	`thanks alestane, i guess your solution is even more complicated ;)`
`20:23.16`	`alestane`	`It looks complicated, but it doesn't need any tables to track children. If you assign the body that goes in control:Run() to a private global, it basically just acts like a function.`
`20:24.57`	`Tornhoof`	`i see, i guess i will need a while to fully understand the new state headers, thanks again for your help`
`20:25.57`	`Dashkal`	`The forums need a "skip to next green" button...`
`20:27.53`	`foxlit`	`"skip to next OP"`
`20:28.01`	`foxlit`	`"skip to next (this guy)"`
`20:28.07`	`Dashkal`	`Definitely`
`20:28.14`	`foxlit`	`"skip to next interesting post"`
`20:28.24`	`Dashkal`	`Trying to hunt down that pdf.`
`20:28.28`	`Tentacled`	`skip to next puddle`
`20:31.12`	`End`	`I just noticed something.`
`20:31.31`	`End`	`in emails a lot of people post above the quote, but in forums very few people do`
`20:31.38`	`End`	`it's usually below the quote`
`20:31.58`	`Tentacled`	`depends on where the software positions your cursor.`
`20:32.09`	`smcn`	`well, in emails the person you're emailing already has the frame of reference`
`20:32.30`	`End`	`well, forums don't always position it at all`
`20:32.39`	`Tentacled`	`Most email software (stupidly) places the cursor at the top. Most forums place the cursor below the quote.`
`20:32.46`	`Tentacled`	`End of analysis. ;P`
`20:33.06`	`malreth`	`posting below the quote was the standard in e-mail years ago before Outlook and Outlook Express`
`20:33.25`	`Tentacled`	`Below or in the quote, precisely`
`20:33.26`	`malreth`	`the rest, as they say, is history`
`20:33.29`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`malreth: it's -still- ieee standard, i believe.`
`20:33.39`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`or not ieee..`
`20:33.43`	`End`	`one of my guildies just posted above the quote, which seemed really weird, but now I noticed that it doesn't put the cursor anywhere at all`
`20:33.43`	`Tentacled`	`aieeee!`
`20:33.52`	`End`	`but everyone normally posts below the quote`
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`20:35.05`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`ah, rfc1855 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855`
`20:37.05`	`Dashkal`	`There it is!`
`20:37.23`	`alestane`	`http://www.iriel.org/wow/docs/SecureHeadersGuide%20-%20draft8.pdf`
`20:38.12`	`Dashkal`	`heh, immediately after I find that link :p`
`20:38.37`	`Dashkal`	`saved and emailed to self. Now I can reserve the stupid questions until after I've poked at things :p`
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`20:52.28`	`p3lim`	`haste: what program did you use to write in?`
`20:55.34`	`t`	`Is MrUseful supposed to be in here?`
`20:55.52`	`t`	`It's been repeatedly trying to join for a while now. Do anyone know who owns it?`
`20:56.28`	`Arrowmaster`	`is it a bot?`
`20:56.37`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yes`
`20:56.38`	`zenzelezz`	`think so`
`20:56.44`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`http://fireglow.de/wowbot.html`
`20:56.49`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`if you do a /who on it`
`20:57.30`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`no idea whose it is, though.`
`20:57.39`	`Arrowmaster`	`apparently pidgen doesnt know /who`
`20:57.55`	`Arrowmaster`	`wtb power so i can be back on my own computer`
`20:58.12`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`try whois?`
`20:58.26`	`p3lim`	`name writer programs`
`20:58.31`	`p3lim`	`like notepad++`
`20:58.40`	`Arrowmaster`	`vim`
`20:58.46`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`emacs!`
`20:59.08`	`Arrowmaster`	`are you trying to start a war?`
`20:59.20`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`not really, but i mean, someone had to say it. ;)`
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`21:10.05`	`AbsoRayne`	`Ello ello`
`21:10.21`	`haste`	`p3lim: vim, but you should really use what you feel comfortable with`
`21:10.27`	`AbsoRayne`	`Im having an issue with CowTip and SLDT, perhaps someone could lend a hand? Or if they happen to have the same problem?`
`21:10.48`	`p3lim`	`using Notepad++ atm, but id like to get some stuff more automated`
`21:11.00`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`what's "some stuff"?`
`21:11.01`	`p3lim`	`pref an editor with the wow API in it`
`21:11.21`	`p3lim`	`tabcomplete maybe, dunno`
`21:11.30`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`i believe there's a build of scite on wowi that has the wow api in it, but i dont know when it was last updated.`
`21:11.40`	`AbsoRayne`	`I have my CowTip set to 80% size, but whenever I hover over SLDT to get the Tooltips on the information I have, the Tooltips size gets blown up to about 120%, but the slider in the CowTip menu will still say 80%.`
`21:11.43`	`AbsoRayne`	`Any ideas?`
`21:13.19`	`p3lim`	`I tried Scite once, hated it`
`21:13.39`	`p3lim`	`Could try vim tho, is it avalible for win2k?`
`21:13.53`	`p3lim`	`winxp*`
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`21:23.06`	`Arrowmaster`	`p3lim: yes theres a vim/gvim for windows`
`21:23.11`	`p3lim`	`Arrowmaster: just tested it, didnt understand shit :p`
`21:23.21`	`p3lim`	`(got no clue whatsoever when it comes to terminals)`
`21:23.38`	`p3lim`	`Ill just get a new theme for n++`
`21:24.15`	`Arrowmaster`	`p3lim: gvim isnt console`
`21:25.17`	`p3lim`	`was some menues, but not much`
`21:25.19`	`p3lim`	`i prefer n++ for now :p`
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`21:36.13`	`Dewin`	`http://www.manapotions.com/raceazeroth.html -> ever wondered what it'd be like to try to run around Azeroth IRL at the same speed your character does?`
`21:39.00`	`nevcairiel`	`stressfull`
`21:42.54`	`Kaso`	`how were they steering?`
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`21:43.55`	`Kaso`	`ah joystick there`
`21:46.52`	`Kaso`	`i bet if you just estimated the stride length of the charaters and their strides/sec you'd get a figure alot lower than 12mph. I recon the 12mph figure is just an artefact of the scales in game being cartoonishly un-realistic`
`21:47.37`	`Arrowmaster`	`well the 5 yard melee distance ingame is also quite unrealistic`
`21:47.44`	`Arrowmaster`	`its more like 5 feet`
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`21:58.03`	`Thrae`	`Took me about 7-8 hours to get to Level 10, but I was dicking around a bit`
`21:58.22`	`Thrae`	`Whoops`
`21:59.02`	`Shirik`	`lua> for k,v in pairs(debug.getinfo(loadstring[[function foo() print("Hello World!"); end]])) do print(k.."="..v) end`
`21:59.03`	`lua_bot`	`Shirik: luabot:1: attempt to index global 'debug' (a nil value)`
`21:59.07`	`Shirik`	`--> for k,v in pairs(debug.getinfo(loadstring[[function foo() print("Hello World!"); end]])) do print(k.."="..v) end`
`21:59.07`	`batbot`	`Shirik: @ [string "for k,v in pairs(debug.getinfo(loadstring[[..."]:1: attempt to concatenate local 'v' (a function value)`
`21:59.14`	`Shirik`	`--> for k,v in pairs(debug.getinfo(loadstring[[function foo() print("Hello World!"); end]])) do print(k.."="..tostring(v)) end`
`21:59.14`	`batbot`	`Shirik: nups=0what=mainfunc=function: 0x809f160lastlinedefined=0source=function foo() print("Hello World!"); endcurrentline=-1namewhat=linedefined=0short_src=[string "function foo() print("Hello World!"); end"]`
`21:59.19`	`Shirik`	`--> for k,v in pairs(debug.getinfo(loadstring[[function foo() print("Hello World!"); end]])) do print(k.."="..tostring(v), " ") end`
`21:59.19`	`batbot`	`Shirik: nups=0 what=main func=function: 0x82f77b0 lastlinedefined=0 source=function foo() print("Hello World!"); end currentline=-1 namewhat= linedefined=0 short_src=[string "function foo() print("Hello World!"); end"]`
`22:01.21`	`Shirik`	`--> loadstring[[function foo() print("Hello World!"); end; function bar() end]]() for k,v in pairs(debug.getinfo(foo).source) do print(k.."="..tostring(v), " ") end`
`22:01.21`	`batbot`	`Shirik: @ [string "loadstring[[function foo() print("Hello Wor..."]:1: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got string)`
`22:01.36`	`Shirik`	`--> loadstring[[function foo() print("Hello World!"); end; function bar() end]]() print(debug.getinfo(foo).source)`
`22:01.36`	`batbot`	`Shirik: function foo() print("Hello World!"); end; function bar() end`
`22:02.32`	`Adys`	`its pirate day already?`
`22:03.11`	`Fisker-`	`they should make that an in-game event`
`22:03.11`	`Fisker-`	`gogo`
`22:03.16`	`Fisker-`	`deviate fish for all`
`22:03.45`	`Adys`	`[00:33:30] <Fisker-> http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/9956668937-bg-downloader.html`
`22:03.47`	`Adys`	`what about it?`
`22:04.15`	`p3lim`	`anyone got a good textmate/notepad++ theme/style layout?`
`22:04.47`	`p3lim`	`pref something easy on the eyes`
`22:05.05`	`Fisker-`	`wrong channel Adys >:3`
`22:05.10`	`Adys`	`i know`
`22:05.15`	`Adys`	`couldnt be arsed to paste in ww`
`22:05.19`	`Adys`	`what about it anyway?`
`22:05.23`	`Fisker-`	`But given it has taken him 4 days to get 4% that means by the same rate it'll take him 96 days to complete it`
`22:05.35`	`Fisker-`	`so he doesn't have "ample" time as the blue suggests >:3`
`22:06.15`	`Adys`	`oh`
`22:06.41`	`Shirik`	`lua> 76336 / 60`
`22:06.42`	`lua_bot`	`Shirik: 1272.2666666667`
`22:06.45`	`Shirik`	`lua> 1272 / 60`
`22:06.45`	`lua_bot`	`Shirik: 21.2`
`22:07.10`	`p3lim`	`haste: raid frame addon? http://www.beverpung.net/images/games/wow/Otravi/temp/WoWScrnShot_041608_230551.jpg`
`22:08.29`	`Stanzilla`	`oUF? :P`
`22:09.17`	`Corgan`	`I like that :3`
`22:11.06`	`haste`	`p3lim: praid`
`22:11.40`	`p3lim`	`that addon still alive? :o`
`22:11.46`	`haste`	`yes`
`22:11.48`	`p3lim`	`remember I had it back in 1.12 :p`
`22:15.11`	`Fisker-`	`it's haste`
`22:15.13`	`Fisker-`	`WATCH OUT`
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`22:16.51`	`Dashkal`	`very newbie question: Are you allowed to set an arbitrary attribute on a secure frame in 3.0?`
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`22:18.22`	`alestane`	`Dashkal: Example?`
`22:18.53`	`haste`	`Fisker-: shut up and explode`
`22:18.55`	`Dashkal`	`alestane: frame:SetAttribute("MyAddon_someCode", "snippet") for later execution by control:RunAttribute("MyAddon_someCode")`
`22:19.25`	`Fisker-`	`i already did haste`
`22:19.58`	`haste`	`I thought you would multiply when you exploded :(`
`22:20.00`	`Sixen`	`Hai!`
`22:20.25`	`alestane`	`Dashkal: Looks like it.`
`22:21.16`	`Dashkal`	`Danke. Trying to get a handle on how the interface between secure space and normal addon code works.`
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`22:24.07`	`Sixen`	`sigh.. Gradina didn't clear the forums at all`
`22:24.12`	`Sixen`	`60 PTR pages -_-`
`22:27.32`	`smcn`	`i lol'd hard http://blue.mmo-champion.com/13/9956308984-login-ptr.html`
`22:27.44`	`smcn`	`"Hey Stupiid"`
`22:29.01`	`Dashkal`	`O.o`
`22:29.02`	`Dashkal`	`nice`
`22:29.04`	`Sixen`	`Heh, yeah.`
`22:29.29`	`ScytheBlade1`	`cog\|work: rofl @ indigestion, hahaha`
`22:30.04`	`Sixen`	`Cog, you going to the UI Dinner?`
`22:30.17`	`cog\|work`	`Sixen: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17443`
`22:30.19`	`cog\|work`	`ScytheBlade1: :)`
`22:30.28`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Well played good sir`
`22:30.35`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I look forward to whatever Peppy and others counter with`
`22:30.37`	`Sixen`	`Ah! You weren't on th elsit yesterday :P`
`22:30.48`	`Sixen`	`s/th elsit/the list`
`22:30.51`	`Sixen`	`I phale?`
`22:30.55`	`cog\|work`	`nope :P just saw the thread this am (was the first time i turned on my comp since fri)`
`22:31.04`	`cog\|work`	`(having been away from it all weekend)`
`22:31.05`	`Sixen`	`Why won't purl fix me?`
`22:31.24`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Forgot your trailing slash`
`22:31.28`	`ScytheBlade1`	`s/your/my`
`22:31.47`	`ScytheBlade1`	`s/your/Sixen's/`
`22:32.05`	`Jamash`	`haha`
`22:32.12`	`Sixen`	`Ooooh`
`22:32.18`	`Sixen`	`s/oooh/lawl/`
`22:32.28`	`Sixen`	`I see what I did there.`
`22:32.32`	`ScytheBlade1`	`hehe`
`22:36.13`	`Duman`	`hmm`
`22:38.35`	`Diao`	`hm`
`22:38.48`	`Diao`	`so CE is only available for preorder from gamestop.. but it's more than double the price of the regular version..`
`22:38.58`	`cog\|work`	`not more than double afaik`
`22:39.07`	`cog\|work`	`well, MSRP anyway`
`22:39.22`	`Diao`	`it's $70 compared to $40, plus a $15 "extra handling fee" at gamestop`
`22:39.28`	`Diao`	`so it ends up being $85 vs $40`
`22:39.29`	`Diao`	`lol`
`22:39.32`	`cog\|work`	`><`
`22:39.47`	`Diao`	`i'll wait for amazon to start preorders for it, it'll probably be cheaper`
`22:39.55`	`ScytheBlade1`	`.... @ extra handling fee`
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`22:40.05`	`cladhaire`	`I don't see any place to order the CE in EU`
`22:40.08`	`cog\|work`	`i think i'll pre-order in store :\|`
`22:40.41`	`Diao`	`http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=72700 <- fail :(`
`22:41.59`	`Thunder_Child`	`cog\|work, store? i dont understand this word`
`22:42.38`	`cog\|work`	`Thunder_Child: it's an ancient technology that allows you to avoid shipping fees. may have other uses`
`22:43.04`	`Thunder_Child`	`cog\|work, i assume there was a reason this technology was phased out`
`22:43.15`	`Thunder_Child`	`to difficult maybe?`
`22:43.18`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`store's are where consumers go to be anally raped by corporations, before the convenience of in-home raping^Wshopping was invented.`
`22:43.25`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`stores*`
`22:43.42`	`p3lim`	`i need a random diff file to test my new layout colors, anyone got one?`
`22:43.53`	`clad\|sleep`	`http://apidiff.pastey.net`
`22:43.55`	`clad\|sleep`	`there's a few`
`22:44.26`	`Diao`	`amazon doesn't have shipping fees`
`22:44.31`	`Diao`	`and it's an online store ;p`
`22:45.07`	`p3lim`	`thanks`
`22:45.18`	`ScytheBlade1`	`haha, I forgot that IPv6 stateless autoconfig uses your ethernet MAC address to generate IPs`
`22:45.27`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I was wondering how this website was getting my motherboard brand accurate`
`22:45.45`	`Thunder_Child`	`hacks`
`22:46.53`	`jaxdahl`	`ScytheBlade1, cool, and freaky.`
`22:47.13`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Mostly just freaky to see it`
`22:48.44`	`Arrowmaster`	`so when do we run out of MAC addresses?`
`22:49.07`	`Thunder_Child`	`when you need another one`
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`22:53.59`	`Dezzimal`	`can addons pick up on what sounds are being played, ambient/music/sound effects?`
`22:54.52`	`Thunder_Child`	`well there are voice based controll programs so i suspect you could hook it it some how`
`22:55.23`	`Thunder_Child`	`s/it s/in s/`
`22:56.50`	`Arrowmaster`	`Dezzimal: no`
`22:57.08`	`Thunder_Child`	`Arrowmaster: -_-`
`22:57.17`	`Dezzimal`	`:(`
`22:57.36`	`Dezzimal`	`afk 30 minutes, if anyone talks its my roomate being an asshole`
`22:57.55`	`Thunder_Child`	`but we will blame you anyway :)`
`22:57.56`	`Dezzimal`	`s/afk 30 minutes, if anyone talks its my roomate being an asshole/disregard that I suck cocks/`
`22:57.58`	`Arrowmaster`	`so lock your computer`
`22:58.03`	`Sixen`	`GameStop is the only one with WotLK CE preorders, amirite?`
`22:58.12`	`Arrowmaster`	`and old joke is old`
`22:58.22`	`Dezzimal`	`some things ned to be done`
`22:58.35`	`Dezzimal`	`need*`
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`23:01.10`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Trying to associate Microsoft with "fun" is like trying to associate Satan with aromatherapy.`
`23:01.16`	`ScytheBlade1`	`PA has a way of saying things`
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`23:03.21`	`clad\|sleep`	`hrm`
`23:03.25`	`clad\|sleep`	`anyone have google chrome?`
`23:03.30`	`smcn`	`yes`
`23:03.32`	`Thunder_Child`	`yes`
`23:03.32`	`cog\|work`	`yes`
`23:03.33`	`clad\|sleep`	`wowprogramming.com seems to crash it on my machine, can anyone confirm?`
`23:03.53`	`clad\|sleep`	`admittedly its Chromium and not Chrome, just wanna make sure the real product doesn't have that issue :P`
`23:03.54`	`Thunder_Child`	`not crashing on me`
`23:04.00`	`smcn`	`negative`
`23:04.02`	`cog\|work`	`nope for me`
`23:04.12`	`Arrowmaster`	`"There are still many traffic lights not working, remember then that every intersection becomes a 4-way stop." seriously people should not have to be reminded of that.....`
`23:04.42`	`cog\|work`	`my biggest driving pet peve is when people waive their right of way.`
`23:04.54`	`Syzgyn`	`Arrowmaster: It scares me how many people forget to turn their lights on when driving in the rain now`
`23:05.08`	`Arrowmaster`	`i hate that too`
`23:05.23`	`cog\|work`	`the whole point of right of way is so everyone knows what to expect. if you waive your right of way, you cause confusion and I've seen that confusion kill someone before`
`23:05.34`	`Lopeppeppy`	`If it's their turn, I don't care how much they wave. I sit.`
`23:06.49`	`Arrowmaster`	`the only time i see people waive their right of way is when both have arived at the same time and its not 100% clear who has the right of way`
`23:07.11`	`Lopeppeppy`	`They do it all the time. sigh I make them go first, so I know where they are.`
`23:07.53`	`cog\|work`	`We were driving through SF and a woman was standing on the median waiting to cross (not at a crosswalk). A driver in the lane next to us slowed down to let her cross, then she hesitated so they sped up right as she stepped into the road`
`23:07.56`	`Arrowmaster`	`"DP&L tells News Center 7 that it is increasing the estimate of customers without power to 225,000. A 'customer" is a single residence or business. DP&L says the company has discovered new areas without power as it works to restore electricity to customers. But DP&L warns that the it may not get all power restored until Friday."`
`23:08.01`	`Arrowmaster`	`not happy......`
`23:08.46`	`Arrowmaster`	`"Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland says about 2 million customers in the state are without power in the wake of high winds from the remnants of Hurricane Ike. Strickland also has declared a state of emergency, which will allow the Ohio Department of Transportation to help local communities remove debris from roads. 84 of the state's 88 counties received damage. At least four people were killed when hit by toppled trees or falling branches. A fifth pe`
`23:09.59`	`Arrowmaster`	`neighbours turned off their generator, going to go see whats up`
`23:10.28`	`cog\|work`	`oh and by "we" i mean the adults in the car... i was 13 at the time so seeing a mangled dead body in the road wasn't exactly the start of a good Halloween...`
`23:10.39`	`ScytheBlade1`	`o_o`
`23:11.00`	`Duman`	`doh`
`23:11.11`	`cog\|work`	`needless to say, i get a bit worked up about right of way :P`
`23:12.04`	`Dewin`	`Anybody know off hand if you'll be able to do online upgrades to WoTLK like you can (supposedly; I've never had it actually work) TBC?`
`23:12.32`	`cog\|work`	`My guess is not until retailers have had their fill`
`23:12.39`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Eventually`
`23:12.50`	`Thunder_Child`	`thats really iritating`
`23:13.26`	`Dewin`	`yeah, three separate wow accounts I've had to go to gamersloot.net to buy keys since Blizzard's online upgrade hasn't worked on any of five different compiters with three different users (so I'm pretty sure it's not user error)`
`23:13.56`	`Dewin`	`which worked for me, gamersloot somehow ended up being $5 cheaper.`
`23:15.14`	`Dewin`	`guess I'll have to go to Gamestop for this one though. Wonder if they're doing a midnight launch.`
`23:15.23`	`Dewin`	`(please no...)`
`23:17.40`	`Syzgyn`	`I got BC at walmart at midnight`
`23:18.00`	`Syzgyn`	`I'll prolly do the same thing this time`
`23:18.17`	`Dewin`	`gotta love streetdated games`
`23:18.27`	`Dewin`	`they'll have it on the 11th but can't sell until the 13th...`
`23:19.01`	`ScytheBlade1`	`It won't do anything until the 13th either.`
`23:19.01`	`Syzgyn`	`Heh`
`23:19.04`	`Syzgyn`	`Yeah`
`23:19.08`	`ScytheBlade1`	`In the case of WoW, it's moot`
`23:19.18`	`Syzgyn`	`Except you'd be able to install it sooner`
`23:19.26`	`Dashkal`	`hrm, mine won't be able to do midnight... but I'm not at all sure I wanna deal with the line thursday morning.`
`23:19.29`	`Syzgyn`	`and deal with the inevitable final patch`
`23:20.01`	`Dewin`	`... http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Rock-Band-2-Bundle-XBOX-360-014633191561/sem/rpsm/oid/217421/catOid/-12841/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do`
`23:20.06`	`Syzgyn`	`The only downside to walmart is you cant preorder`
`23:20.15`	`Syzgyn`	`so you have to get there an hour or so early and wait`
`23:20.23`	`Jamash`	`$9999.99, huh`
`23:20.23`	`ScytheBlade1`	`lol @ price adjustments`
`23:20.28`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Ship Amazon.com. I don't care if I get it a day or so after everyone breaks the servers trying to log on at midnight.`
`23:20.30`	`Dashkal`	`They should totally have a script that copies everything it can from beta.`
`23:20.32`	`Dewin`	`99% off!`
`23:21.03`	`Syzgyn`	`Lopeppeppy: I do care :) Getting a few hour head start on leveling against the mass of people makes everything easier`
`23:21.40`	`Syzgyn`	`Whaaat`
`23:21.49`	`Lopeppeppy`	`I guess it's an AD thing. It will be crashing for the first few days anyway, due to stress loads, so I'm not uber-worried about prompt installation.`
`23:22.08`	`Syzgyn`	`BC didnt`
`23:22.23`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Err`
`23:22.24`	`ScytheBlade1`	`...`
`23:22.31`	`ScytheBlade1`	`BC was crash-tastic`
`23:22.39`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Oh, it totally did. Crash-tastic.`
`23:23.16`	`Syzgyn`	`Huh, I dont remember having any issues on my server`
`23:23.16`	`Syzgyn`	`Maybe I blocked the memory of it out`
`23:23.16`	`Lopeppeppy`	`My SO got it from waiting in line, he couldn't play for days... just about when I got mine from shipping and we could play together.`
`23:23.16`	`Syzgyn`	`Heh`
`23:23.18`	`Dewin`	`Lop: a) it's going to be crashtastic whether you buy the xpac right away or not, b) At least you'll be able to patch so when you do want to play xpac you won't have to patch more...`
`23:23.21`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Our world server went down every 30 minutes`
`23:23.22`	`Dashkal`	`Maelstrom was pretty stable as well. A bit laggy, but I could cast a spell and expect it to fire in under a second.`
`23:23.33`	`ScytheBlade1`	`When it wasn't down, we had 3000ms ping`
`23:23.39`	`Syzgyn`	`Never had that`
`23:23.50`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Hopefully with the dual starting zones a lot of that will be alleviated.`
`23:23.54`	`Dashkal`	`oh yeah, we weren't anywhere near that.`
`23:23.55`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Not worth it to me, I'll wait a few days for the shipped collectors version'`
`23:24.06`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I don't recall having realm lag/stability issues on BC launch shrug`
`23:24.16`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Roll a toon on Doomhammer.`
`23:24.21`	`Syzgyn`	`No thanks`
`23:24.21`	`Dewin`	`I wonder if my characters copied to PTR yet`
`23:24.24`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`no, thats okay.`
`23:24.25`	`smcn`	`do the dailies on QD give experience? :P`
`23:24.25`	`ScytheBlade1`	`You'll experience a bit of pain. ;)`
`23:24.30`	`ScytheBlade1`	`smcn: they will`
`23:24.34`	`Syzgyn`	`You make it sound so appealing!`
`23:24.39`	`smcn`	`yeah, that's what i meant`
`23:24.57`	`ScytheBlade1`	`It isn't Doomhammer if we can't collectivly call it Downhammer for a straight month.`
`23:25.35`	`Thunder_Child`	`you mean can?`
`23:25.45`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Blackrock Down!!`
`23:26.02`	`Dewin`	`smcn: It'd be a waste though, since you'll get (possibly more) XP from the regular quests as well not to mention whatever questlines are required to activate instance quests...`
`23:26.20`	`smcn`	`Dewin: not if northrend crashes ;)`
`23:26.32`	`smcn`	`that was basically my point ;P`
`23:28.54`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Even if Northrend crashes every 30 minutes, you're better off questing there than doing old dailies.`
`23:30.24`	`TecnoBrat`	`Does anyone know anything about a bug in the beta client that causes mac clients to crash with a "EXC_BAD_ACCESS KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE" when you use certain lua functions? The wowhead looter addon is causing a client crash on login, but its mac only, so I'm havign a hell of a time tracking it down :P`
`23:31.23`	`smcn`	`is it just me or does it seem people are missing the point behind achievements? pretty much every suggestion on the achievements forum has someone chiming in that it shouldn't be an achievement because it's too easy/stupid/whatever`
`23:32.25`	`TecnoBrat`	`I guess none of tehm have seen the steam achievements?`
`23:32.35`	`Arrowmaster`	`fucking hell just heard from a neighbour that the estimate for us getting power back was sometime between thursday and sunday.......`
`23:33.12`	`Arrowmaster`	`seriously wtf`
`23:33.43`	`TecnoBrat`	`"Eat 100 sandviches" = totally not stupid or easy right? :P`
`23:34.22`	`Jamash`	`they're probably xbox refugees where the # of achievement points per game are limited`
`23:34.41`	`Arrowmaster`	`and they just did property reaprasials and our city was like the only one around here where everybodys went up and thus increased our taxes.......`
`23:35.34`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Arrowmaster, are you down in Texas or in the Ohio area?`
`23:37.24`	`TecnoBrat`	`and how are you online? :)`
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`23:41.26`	`KarlKFI`	`TecnoBrat what OS version?`
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`23:44.04`	`TecnoBrat`	`KarlKFI, afaik, latest osx`
`23:44.29`	`KarlKFI`	`10.5.4? 10.5.5?`
`23:44.57`	`TecnoBrat`	`well been a problem since last week,`
`23:45.02`	`TecnoBrat`	`10.5.5 is today right?`
`23:45.06`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yes`
`23:45.06`	`TecnoBrat`	`so that would be 10.5.4`
`23:45.33`	`TecnoBrat`	`sorry then latest was the wrong statement, rofl`
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`23:46.49`	`KarlKFI`	`know what function is causing it?`
`23:47.39`	`Arrowmaster`	`my dad tried to plugin a TV and overloaded my inverter.... so now the laptop is running on battery power while he watches TV`
`23:48.24`	`ScytheBlade1`	`lol`
`23:48.30`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`wow... "Accusations that a soccer player was using witchcraft during a match in eastern Congo sparked a riot that killed 13 people, a U.N.-funded radio station reported Monday."`
`23:49.11`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`Arrowmaster, where in the country are you? TX?`
`23:49.15`	`alestane`	`That's, um...that's, ...wow.`
`23:49.41`	`Arrowmaster`	`Neuro_Medivh: Ohio`
`23:50.14`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Yeah, Ohio is pretty bad. What filtered up here to me in NY has power up and down and in and out and crappy.`
`23:50.34`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`Oh, yeah, I heard Ohio valley got hit with heavy winds... my brother lives in Louisville, he lost 2 trees and power`
`23:50.59`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah we got the core of what was left right ontop of us`
`23:51.09`	`Arrowmaster`	`70+ mph winds`
`23:51.33`	`Arrowmaster`	`so fucking shit ton of broken trees and powerlines`
`23:51.52`	`Thunder_Child`	`i like a good breeze`
`23:53.25`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`so... is beta still fubar? I haven't been able to log in all day`
`23:54.03`	`smcn`	`i was on northrend about 10 minutes ago`
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`23:55.05`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Ours had gusts of upwards of 50mph, which is stiff unhappy for the trees and power.`
`23:55.11`	`Thunder_Child`	`"your so gay and you dont even like boys"`
`23:55.51`	`ScytheBlade1`	`We hit 10mph today.`
`23:55.52`	`Thunder_Child`	`also something along the lines of 'masturbating to bethoven'`
`23:55.53`	`ScytheBlade1`	`It was kinda nice.`
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`23:56.01`	`Thunder_Child`	`this is a weird song`
`23:59.40`	`Dashkal`	`ooo, GC says ferals will get mana return in the way boomkins did via lotp: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9956559022&sid=2000`

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