| 00:00.00 | NeoTron | just saying it'll be replaced really quickly |
| 00:00.09 | NightHawkAtWork | but I wouldn't spend a huge amount of money doing it |
| 00:00.17 | NightHawkAtWork | er, "it's probably NOT bad to make" |
| 00:00.36 | squidbear | WobWork, so if I change it to an if statement it should work? |
| 00:00.38 | NeoTron | 16x primal mana, 16x primal air, 2x primal nether, 30 x nether dragonscales |
| 00:00.42 | Sixen | =] |
| 00:00.48 | WobWork | aye |
| 00:00.48 | NeoTron | ... for the chest piece |
| 00:00.59 | NightHawkAtWork | yeah. i know. >< |
| 00:01.10 | NeoTron | that's maybe at least 1500g worth of mats |
| 00:01.43 | WobWork | sure... but what's gold nowadays? =P |
| 00:02.10 | Neuro_Medivh | it's dinner on the table for millions of chinese |
| 00:02.32 | Jamash | shouldn't you set TimeSinceLastUpdate to 0 also? |
| 00:03.05 | NeoTron | WobWork: something useful to have when skilling up in wotlk? :P |
| 00:03.23 | WobWork | apparently $40USD for 2000g =P |
| 00:05.08 | Neuro_Medivh | wow, it's gone down |
| 00:05.14 | Amarande | well, of those, one can probably get away with buying only the nethers |
| 00:05.26 | Amarande | primal mana? that's like ... a few hours in Netherstorm :) |
| 00:09.30 | NightHawkAtWork | primal air's always a pita to get, though, at least for me |
| 00:10.29 | Dashkal | PTR tuesday?: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/9679951353-302-ptr.html |
| 00:10.58 | kd3 | soon as in http://www.wowwiki.com/Soon |
| 00:11.02 | NightHawkAtWork | ^ |
| 00:11.16 | Amarande | yeah, is there even a good place anywhere to farm motes of air? |
| 00:11.22 | Amarande | I swear they have much lower drop rates than any other motes do |
| 00:11.31 | Dashkal | I |
| 00:11.31 | NightHawkAtWork | Amarande: I could tell you, but then you would take my farming spots. |
| 00:11.39 | Amarande | LOL, do you even play on one of my servers? |
| 00:11.45 | Dashkal | I'm hoping the ptr really is tuesday. More eyes on those talents == good |
| 00:11.52 | NightHawkAtWork | heh, probably not. ;) |
| 00:11.53 | Jamash | I hate farming motes more than I hate anything else in wow |
| 00:11.57 | kd3 | lv70 balance != lv80 balance |
| 00:12.02 | Amarande | I pretty much only play on Stormrage, Turalyon and Quel'dorei |
| 00:12.06 | NightHawkAtWork | Amarande: really, there's only two.. ele plateau and smv |
| 00:12.15 | Dashkal | Even _leveling_ balance is important to me. |
| 00:12.15 | WobWork | they're both painful |
| 00:12.20 | Jamash | and nagrand in general if you have engineering |
| 00:12.23 | Amarande | *is* the drop rate lower, or does it just feel like that? |
| 00:12.26 | WobWork | SMV at least you can farm serpent scales while you're at it |
| 00:12.42 | Dashkal | Also, I'm more concerned with stacking exploits and talent bugs than balancing for 80 at this moment |
| 00:12.44 | NightHawkAtWork | Amarande: er, is the droprate lower for what? |
| 00:12.49 | Jamash | motes of air |
| 00:12.50 | NightHawkAtWork | WobWork: only if you're a skinner. :( |
| 00:12.51 | Amarande | Air motes compared to other elements |
| 00:12.56 | NightHawkAtWork | Amarande: probably just perception |
| 00:12.59 | WobWork | not that I've noticed |
| 00:13.11 | WobWork | well, water can be gained from fishing |
| 00:13.14 | WobWork | so that's another source |
| 00:13.34 | kd3 | 515559 |
| 00:13.49 | End | 515559? |
| 00:13.50 | WobWork | That's the password of my luggage! |
| 00:13.51 | End | oh |
| 00:13.52 | End | duh |
| 00:14.06 | End | kd3, we don't need to be notified everytime you're trying to log in |
| 00:14.33 | WobWork | or get into my luggage =( |
| 00:15.17 | WobWork | Careful, NightHawk, you have no idea where you'll end up |
| 00:15.19 | WobWork | with my luck, it could be -anywhere- |
| 00:15.22 | Amarande | NightHawkAtWork, welcome to Tatooine |
| 00:15.30 | Amarande | Enjoy your stay |
| 00:15.32 | WobWork | see? |
| 00:15.34 | NightHawkAtWork | WobWork: anywhere would probably be better than my job. |
| 00:15.51 | Amarande | NightHawkAtWork, we can always leave you in a room with the rancor for a while to allow you to re-judge that :) |
| 00:16.25 | NightHawkAtWork | "Hi, we've got a bunch of issues with recurring billing not working." (a few minutes of looking at the actual data later) "Oh, nevermind, I guess it's doing everything right, and we're just idiots. My bad" <-- my afternoon. |
| 00:16.59 | WobWork | go read Notalwaysright, if you haven't caught up the whole archives =) |
| 00:17.17 | WobWork | and at least it was just a few minutes =\ |
| 00:17.20 | NightHawkAtWork | i read it every morning, it's in my feed list. :D |
| 00:17.22 | squidbear | Hmm...my OnUpdate still seems to be buggy; it cuts off a few seconds at the end of the song. http://wowuidev.pastey.net/95648 |
| 00:17.26 | WobWork | hehe same =) |
| 00:20.15 | WobWork | squidbear: it's because you're setting the music song length to the length of the previous song |
| 00:20.31 | WobWork | line 15 |
| 00:20.39 | WobWork | You've moved to the next song |
| 00:20.47 | WobWork | but music_length is still the lenght of the previous song |
| 00:20.48 | squidbear | OH! doh |
| 00:21.01 | squidbear | so just switch the lines right? |
| 00:21.15 | WobWork | no, you'll have to update music_length |
| 00:21.20 | WobWork | to refer to the current song |
| 00:21.22 | squidbear | oh i see |
| 00:21.32 | WobWork | You might want to set up some locals to refer to the 'current song playing' |
| 00:21.45 | WobWork | that updates every time PlaySong runs |
| 00:21.54 | WobWork | or rather every time PlaySong changes |
| 00:29.00 | Lunessa | People like this are NOT helping the beta process: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9336631689&sid=2000&pageNo=1 |
| 00:31.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: without reading the thread, I can say that there are far too many of those people around |
| 00:31.53 | Lunessa | The whole post's tone is "Y U so mean?" |
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| 00:33.19 | Lunessa | I mean, I read all those posts about a class I play I I think to myself "are we even playing the same game?" |
| 00:33.53 | squidbear | how do you round to the nearest whole number with lua? |
| 00:33.56 | Sargeras | is Cairenn cloning herself? |
| 00:34.14 | Cairenn | more of me to go around ;) |
| 00:34.19 | Neuro_Medivh | mmm, multiple Cairenns... |
| 00:34.28 | Wobster | squidbear: math.floor |
| 00:34.28 | ScytheBlade1 | wtb Cairenn x2 |
| 00:34.30 | Sargeras | oh baby |
| 00:34.30 | Sargeras | rawr |
| 00:34.36 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 00:34.44 | Neuro_Medivh | it's the new wowi slogan: "A Cairenn in every house" |
| 00:34.48 | Cairenn | ROFL |
| 00:34.52 | Sargeras | LOL |
| 00:34.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Hey! I want TWO! |
| 00:34.54 | Lunessa | ... A Cairenn for everyone? hubba hubba! |
| 00:34.54 | Sargeras | A+ |
| 00:34.55 | Wobster | I could live with that |
| 00:35.24 | Sargeras | that should be the WoWI window title |
| 00:35.37 | Sargeras | WoWInterface.com :: A Cairenn in every house |
| 00:35.41 | Neuro_Medivh | "With every premium subscription, your very own Cairenn is shipped right to your door! Feeding and care instructions included" |
| 00:35.46 | Sargeras | Dolby |
| 00:35.48 | Sargeras | make it so |
| 00:35.50 | NightHawkAtWork | Wobster: math.floor isn't rounding to the nearest integer >.> |
| 00:35.59 | ScytheBlade1 | (I still want two...) |
| 00:36.00 | Wobster | no |
| 00:36.12 | NightHawkAtWork | or rather "doesn't round to" |
| 00:36.16 | Wobster | but if he searches for that, he's bound to find some information on how to do it properly |
| 00:36.19 | Neuro_Medivh | What could you do with two that you couldn't do with one? Wait, nm, don't answer that |
| 00:36.21 | Sargeras | and rotate the title too |
| 00:36.24 | Sargeras | to say other things |
| 00:36.29 | Jamash | if you want nearest integer add 0.5 then do math.floor |
| 00:37.01 | NightHawkAtWork | anyway, im heading home. later. |
| 00:37.11 | Wobster | math.floor rounds to -a- nearest integer |
| 00:37.17 | Wobster | for various values of 'integer' |
| 00:37.20 | ScytheBlade1 | heh, a good Chrome article: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/08/dziuba_chrome/ |
| 00:37.20 | Lunessa | Neuro_Medivh: Feeling a little slow? I mean, duh.. you could get a healer and a hunter in the same group! |
| 00:39.05 | Wobster | ScytheBlade1: tl;dr |
| 00:39.08 | Wobster | or rather |
| 00:39.15 | Wobster | too much bitching not enough content |
| 00:39.40 | Wobster | it's not a Chrome article as such |
| 00:39.48 | Wobster | it's a "Everyone is too stupid to live" article |
| 00:40.01 | Dolby | no! there all mine! |
| 00:40.10 | Wobster | and thus, not particularly high quality journalism =P |
| 00:40.58 | Lunessa | Oh man, Dolby hogging all the Cairenn clones. Man. *harumph* |
| 00:41.47 | Amarande | good grief, wow takes a lot longer to download at 5M than I thought it should |
| 00:43.22 | Lunessa | ScytheBlade1: Man, British press gets to say such biting things... |
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| 00:45.40 | squidbear | is Wobster = wobwork? |
| 00:46.23 | Wobster | yes |
| 00:46.28 | Wobster | Lunessa: http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/rudd-tells-neal-to-behave/2008/09/03/1220121331139.html |
| 00:47.16 | squidbear | Ah. Well I've been playing with my onupdate func and i have it printing the countdown so I can see it. The starting number seems to abitrarily change though :\ |
| 00:47.20 | Wobster | and I quote: "She still faces disciplinary action from Parliament's Privileges Committee for telling a pregnant Liberal MP she would give birth to a demon." |
| 00:48.06 | Lunessa | Wobster: doesn't have "Googasm" or "shoots their gravy" in it. |
| 00:48.18 | Wobster | clearly our less than litigious society allows much more leeway in political insults |
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| 00:48.37 | squidbear | demon child! |
| 00:49.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: that was a 100% terrible line |
| 00:49.09 | Wobster | It was a terrible article |
| 00:49.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Wobster: it also had a point :P |
| 00:49.17 | Wobster | I would classify it more as a blog |
| 00:49.20 | Lunessa | In the US of A you could say that too. But no one would sue; they'd just be roasted in the press. |
| 00:49.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, blog |
| 00:49.27 | ScytheBlade1 | "piece of text" |
| 00:49.33 | Wobster | Lunessa: pft |
| 00:49.47 | Wobster | You'd be sued for something, I'm sure |
| 00:49.54 | Wobster | thingie |
| 00:50.06 | Wobster | not libel |
| 00:50.08 | Wobster | slander |
| 00:50.11 | Wobster | or something =P |
| 00:50.16 | Jamash | one is print and the other is speech |
| 00:50.21 | Jamash | I can never remember which is which |
| 00:50.25 | Lunessa | I mean, if I were running for office here and I said "Hillary Clinton would give birth to demons." I would probably be lynched before I was sued. |
| 00:50.37 | Wobster | well you have more access to guns than we do |
| 00:50.47 | Wobster | and we wouldn't bother lynching |
| 00:50.50 | Wobster | we'd laugh =P |
| 00:50.56 | Jamash | okay, libel is written and slander is spoken (thanks internet) |
| 00:50.57 | Wobster | and secretly agree |
| 00:51.01 | Lunessa | Lynching = hanging by the neck until dead, dead, dead. We learned that from the British. |
| 00:52.09 | Wobster | then again, you're all a lot more religious over there =\ |
| 00:52.15 | Wobster | at least vocally |
| 00:52.30 | Wobster | so the giving birth to demons might not go over so well =P |
| 00:52.49 | Jamash | we have all the religious types because the UK threw them out |
| 00:52.53 | squidbear | Hillary Clinton is too old to reproduce. |
| 00:52.57 | Lunessa | Some of us. We also have a lot more religions over here, but the Baptists and Catholics are the most vocal. |
| 00:53.03 | Wobster | So demonic spawn is a possiblilty? |
| 00:53.19 | Neuro_Medivh | possibility? Have you SEEN Chelsea? |
| 00:53.40 | Neuro_Medivh | Meghan McCain > Chelsea Clinton any day |
| 00:54.07 | Lunessa | *chuckle* |
| 00:54.13 | squidbear | is there a playlist filetype that stores meta data along with the file path? |
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| 00:55.19 | Jamash | I think Winamp uses comments to store metadata in m3u files, but I doubt it's a standard |
| 00:55.34 | squidbear | hmm ok |
| 00:57.38 | Jamash | http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=65772 has some information on extended m3u |
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| 01:14.51 | squidbear | hrmm....onupdate seems to get borked when the loading screen interrupts it |
| 01:15.27 | Wobster | well it doesn't update |
| 01:15.35 | Wobster | because the frame is not visible |
| 01:16.25 | squidbear | Yeah...but the starting number changes to something weird |
| 01:17.02 | squidbear | Like it will be counting down from 200 then after loading screen will be 80 and continue counting down (mind you, the music stops after the loading screen) |
| 01:18.24 | Wobster | you might be better off working from a flat time |
| 01:18.29 | Wobster | rather than the delta from onupdate |
| 01:18.37 | squidbear | flat time? |
| 01:18.46 | Wobster | as in "What is the time now" |
| 01:19.08 | Wobster | rather than "How much time has elapsed since I last checked" |
| 01:19.43 | squidbear | oh |
| 01:20.21 | Wobster | that way, your program isn't affected by the game changing |
| 01:21.11 | squidbear | what function is used to get the flat time? |
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| 01:22.14 | Wobster | gettime? |
| 01:22.18 | Wobster | or time |
| 01:22.21 | Wobster | I can't remember offhand |
| 01:22.44 | leethal | Wobster: Time.now |
| 01:23.06 | Wobster | http://www.lua.org/pil/22.1.html |
| 01:23.16 | leethal | WRONG CHANNEL WOOPS KEK LOL |
| 01:23.18 | leethal | sorry =P |
| 01:25.23 | Arrowmaster | GetTime() which is wow api not lua |
| 01:28.30 | squidbear | thanks |
| 01:34.03 | Thunder_Child | ~fail leethal |
| 01:34.04 | purl | leethal: FAIL! |
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| 01:40.51 | squidbear | hmmm |
| 01:41.11 | squidbear | Wobster, how do I calculate the remaining time with flat time and my song length? |
| 01:41.35 | Wobster | well |
| 01:41.39 | Wobster | you know what time it is |
| 01:41.43 | Wobster | you know when you started |
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| 01:41.46 | Wobster | and you know how long the song is |
| 01:42.31 | squidbear | I store GetTime() as a variable to know when it starts? |
| 01:43.45 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 01:50.37 | squidbear | local time_left = music_length + GetTime() - start_time; |
| 01:50.48 | squidbear | something like that for inside my if statement? |
| 01:51.21 | Wobster | aye |
| 01:51.23 | Lunessa | I'm a bad person. I've long since stopped caring about events on my home realm for retail. |
| 01:51.33 | Wobster | Lunessa: burning the AH, are we? |
| 01:51.46 | Wobster | oh not that sort of retail |
| 01:51.50 | Lunessa | As in Live Game vs Beta Game |
| 01:52.04 | Wobster | You've become a Jaded Beta Player |
| 01:52.18 | Wobster | (+5 to Meh) |
| 01:52.21 | Lunessa | Drop the last two words. |
| 01:53.53 | squidbear | you beta-er! |
| 01:56.19 | Sargeras | servers still crashing? |
| 01:57.14 | squidbear | hmmses...http://wowuidev.pastey.net/95650 |
| 01:57.27 | squidbear | I'm doing something terribly wrong. |
| 01:57.33 | squidbear | and I know it's something stupid |
| 01:58.40 | Cide | you realize you just posted 59 lines, right? |
| 01:58.43 | Cide | pasted* |
| 01:59.04 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 01:59.32 | Cide | maybe you should tell us what's wrong with it |
| 01:59.46 | Cide | but maybe that didn't strike you as useful information |
| 02:00.07 | squidbear | well...I was kinda directing it toward Wobster because he was helping me before. but I can go over it again. |
| 02:00.16 | Cide | oh, nevermind! |
| 02:00.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Any time Cide can get out of work, he will |
| 02:00.25 | Cide | have fun, Wobster |
| 02:00.34 | squidbear | x| |
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| 02:01.24 | Sargeras | wtf share |
| 02:02.00 | Jamash | what I do when code misbehaves is add lots of debug print statements |
| 02:02.18 | Cide | code never misbehaves |
| 02:02.22 | Cide | you just suck at telling it what to do |
| 02:02.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: I've gotta say, you're probably the most constructive and awesome troll I've seen in a long time |
| 02:02.55 | squidbear | CynicalCide |
| 02:03.02 | squidbear | :D |
| 02:03.21 | Cide | yeah, I'm pretty awesome |
| 02:03.56 | kd3 | 2-shotting the giants at the bottom of frostwhisper is fun |
| 02:04.19 | Amarande | kd3: do you make back ~60-70g worth of stuff for each 2 hours of flask, though? |
| 02:04.37 | kd3 | probably. I had it on because I was raiding earlier, though |
| 02:05.31 | Amarande | Yeah, the night before I left for Dragon Con, I believe my flask lasted just long enough to finish the Kara run, then finish the final kill quest in Nagrand before I turned in to hit exalted with Netherwing |
| 02:05.41 | Amarande | how's that for a way to cap off an evening ... |
| 02:06.08 | Cide | sounds like you slack at finishing nagrand quests to me |
| 02:06.24 | Lunessa | SLACK |
| 02:06.24 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
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| 02:19.34 | Thunder_Child | ~punt Lunessa |
| 02:19.37 | purl | ACTION sends Lunessa into a new timezone |
| 02:20.34 | Thunder_Child | wtb hurricane here |
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| 02:20.50 | Lunessa | Life must be pretty damned dull then. |
| 02:21.04 | kd3 | we still could use a tropical storm to just come up to atlanta and sit here for a day or two |
| 02:21.09 | Thunder_Child | more like i have never experianced one, so i would like to |
| 02:21.19 | kd3 | be glad you haven't |
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| 02:21.30 | Lunessa | But, instead of doing something interesting/useful tonight, I will instead be packing and prepping in case they call for an evacuation on Wednesday. |
| 02:21.31 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 02:21.49 | Thunder_Child | kd3, i have never had a problem with experianceingbad things |
| 02:29.25 | ScytheBlade1 | I see the servers are still terrible |
| 02:30.17 | Dashkal | Ok, died during the tour of Zul'Drak. Will I a) load back where I started b) just continue as I was or c) fall to my splattery death? Lets find out! |
| 02:30.23 | Dashkal | died->server died |
| 02:30.34 | Sargeras | ouch |
| 02:30.38 | Thunder_Child | Dashkal, ooo oo oo C. |
| 02:30.38 | Sargeras | the ghoul one? |
| 02:30.47 | Dashkal | yep yep |
| 02:30.50 | Sargeras | =/ |
| 02:30.51 | Dashkal | My bet's on C as well :p |
| 02:31.07 | Dashkal | Though with the strange rules for the DK mount, I might just mount before hitting the ground |
| 02:32.04 | squidbear | what's wrong with this countdown func? http://wowuidev.pastey.net/95653 |
| 02:32.27 | squidbear | It just cycles through the songs really fast |
| 02:32.35 | Syzgyn | Dashkal: I bet A |
| 02:32.41 | Syzgyn | with the quest complete |
| 02:33.04 | Dashkal | Syzgyn: that would kinda suck, I wanted to see the whole thing complete with comments. |
| 02:33.12 | Syzgyn | Abandon and do it again then :D |
| 02:33.14 | Dashkal | I'm actually expecting B but for the quest to bug out and no credit |
| 02:33.37 | Dashkal | Just waiting till I'm damn sure the server is up. I( hate it when I log in just as it comes up and NPCs and such don't work |
| 02:34.03 | Syzgyn | squidbear: how often is it getting called? |
| 02:34.42 | squidbear | OnUpdate... |
| 02:34.46 | squidbear | for the frame... |
| 02:34.59 | squidbear | hmm |
| 02:35.05 | Syzgyn | Your start_time is constantly changing |
| 02:35.08 | squidbear | I see how that is bad |
| 02:35.27 | Syzgyn | start_time needs to be outside of the scope of the function |
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| 02:36.09 | squidbear | I think I should just change it so that the function is called only when a song is played |
| 02:37.18 | Syzgyn | Every second would be fine |
| 02:38.22 | Syzgyn | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/95655 |
| 02:39.06 | Syzgyn | also notice I changed it to current_time > , not < |
| 02:39.27 | squidbear | ah |
| 02:39.58 | Syzgyn | time increases, your current time will never be less than your start time |
| 02:41.02 | Amarande | that's the kind of bug that can take forever to fix, right? :) |
| 02:41.28 | Dashkal | aaaannnnndddd the answer is... *drum roll* C! I splattered |
| 02:42.08 | Thunder_Child | WIN! |
| 02:43.52 | Sargeras | Live to win |
| 02:43.54 | Sargeras | oh wait |
| 02:44.02 | Amarande | good grief, I think this was 6 hours just to download the base WoW, not even BC yet |
| 02:44.21 | Thunder_Child | Amarande, L2dvd |
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| 02:45.38 | squidbear | Syzgyn, http://wowuidev.pastey.net/95657 Look mostly at the SMP_PlaySong() and SMP_Song() funcs. It doesn't seem like SMP_Song() is getting executed properly |
| 02:46.37 | Shirik | Ok, problem #1: You lack comments |
| 02:47.13 | squidbear | hmm I suppose those would be useful... |
| 02:47.37 | Sixen | kd3, â is made of win. |
| 02:48.03 | Lunessa | Dashkal: Odd, I crashed out twice during that. I was able to just restart the quest from the platofrm. |
| 02:48.07 | Lunessa | platform |
| 02:48.56 | Syzgyn | squidbear: do you have a frame for OnUpdate calls? |
| 02:49.01 | Shirik | problem #2: You only call Song() once |
| 02:49.13 | Shirik | obviously the first time through the elapsed time will be 0 |
| 02:49.17 | Syzgyn | Yeah, Song() is getting called incorrectly |
| 02:49.26 | Syzgyn | It should be an OnUpdate thing |
| 02:49.36 | Dashkal | Lunessa: no dice for me. I came back falling |
| 02:49.44 | Lunessa | teh suk |
| 02:49.45 | Dashkal | I think I came back during the no-npc window |
| 02:49.53 | Dashkal | IE: no gargoyle holding me up |
| 02:49.57 | squidbear | But I don't want to rely on the frames OnUpdate because of loading screens (it screws with the time) |
| 02:49.59 | Lunessa | Yeah. Ouch |
| 02:50.07 | Shirik | huh? |
| 02:50.12 | Shirik | oh |
| 02:50.15 | Dashkal | I'll comment in my report, but I really doubt they can do anything about that one |
| 02:50.20 | Shirik | no, huh? |
| 02:50.25 | Shirik | What do you mean it screws with the time |
| 02:50.29 | Syzgyn | theres no other way to get something called repeatedly without an infinite loop in your case |
| 02:50.36 | kd3 | figured you'd like that, sixen |
| 02:50.43 | Sixen | ;) |
| 02:50.49 | Shirik | Unless your computer is moving at a rate of somewhere around 0.8c, time is pretty linear |
| 02:50.52 | Sixen | I already edited Subject |
| 02:50.52 | Sixen | =D |
| 02:51.06 | Syzgyn | squidbear: You can always have it pause and start again when loading is finished |
| 02:51.13 | Syzgyn | Though |
| 02:51.16 | squidbear | There is no frame displayed during the loading screen, so they frame doesn't update |
| 02:51.19 | Shirik | loading should have nothing to do with it.... |
| 02:51.31 | Shirik | All that matters is you can't change songs mid-load |
| 02:51.33 | Syzgyn | ^ |
| 02:51.48 | Shirik | Big deal, so you have one case where it runs a little over |
| 02:51.52 | Shirik | it will be corrected when loading is finished |
| 02:51.57 | squidbear | Hmm... |
| 02:51.58 | Syzgyn | Your start_time and song_length dont change during load |
| 02:52.09 | Syzgyn | all that happens is OnUpdate misses a few seconds |
| 02:52.19 | Syzgyn | then as soon as it starts getting called again, it's back up to date |
| 02:52.44 | Syzgyn | The only time it would create any sort of issue would be if a song ended while you were loading |
| 02:53.04 | Syzgyn | in which case you'd have to wait till the loading finished before the next song could start |
| 02:53.14 | Syzgyn | But theres no way around that |
| 02:54.16 | squidbear | alright. |
| 02:54.42 | Lunessa | Paladins: Do they have a "close to melee" ability? I can't think of one. |
| 02:55.04 | Thunder_Child | wtb a reason why explorer.exe is using resources |
| 02:55.18 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, consecration |
| 02:55.25 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: Because M$ said it should. |
| 02:55.31 | Thunder_Child | or however it is spelled |
| 02:55.53 | Lunessa | TC - that's AoE melee damage, not "get closer to melee" |
| 02:56.05 | Thunder_Child | ah, thats not what you asked |
| 02:56.46 | Thunder_Child | not that i am aware of either |
| 02:57.15 | Lunessa | And it is what I ask, l2know what 'close' means. :P |
| 02:57.30 | Lunessa | in before l2type lunessa |
| 02:58.16 | Syzgyn | Repentance or HoJ would be the only ones |
| 02:58.29 | squidbear | Ok...should this be working? http://wowuidev.pastey.net/95659 |
| 02:59.38 | Syzgyn | Yep, that should work functionality wise |
| 02:59.48 | Syzgyn | Your time left display isnt gonna update though |
| 03:00.34 | squidbear | does it need to be outside the if? |
| 03:00.47 | Syzgyn | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/95660 |
| 03:00.48 | Syzgyn | Yep |
| 03:01.51 | Syzgyn | Actually, I think you're gonna have issues if you pause |
| 03:02.43 | squidbear | There's no pause functionality with the API so it doesn't matter. |
| 03:02.49 | Syzgyn | Ah, nevermind then |
| 03:02.49 | squidbear | >_< |
| 03:03.09 | squidbear | lol it's adding up instead of subtracting down |
| 03:03.24 | squidbear | I'm so great at math ;P |
| 03:04.36 | Cide | no |
| 03:04.54 | Syzgyn | yes? |
| 03:05.01 | squidbear | maybe. |
| 03:05.08 | Syzgyn | applejuice |
| 03:05.34 | squidbear | :o |
| 03:05.58 | squidbear | you wouldn't |
| 03:06.15 | squidbear | so...why is it counting up? >_> |
| 03:07.33 | Cide | because you told it to, dumbnuts |
| 03:08.02 | WobWork | pft, to say 'wtb hurricaine to experience' is stupid |
| 03:08.05 | Cide | GetTime() increases, music_length and start_time are constants |
| 03:08.07 | squidbear | but why did I tell it too? :P |
| 03:08.09 | Cide | conclusion? |
| 03:08.18 | WobWork | you need to go to -another- place to experience the hurricaine |
| 03:08.24 | Syzgyn | do music_length - GetTime() |
| 03:08.24 | WobWork | that way you don't have to deal with the aftermath |
| 03:08.28 | Cide | wow |
| 03:08.30 | Cide | Syzgyn |
| 03:08.36 | Cide | stop feeding this guy with code |
| 03:08.48 | WobWork | om nomnomnom |
| 03:09.02 | Syzgyn | Cooookiiieeee |
| 03:09.31 | Cide | give a [wo]man code, [s]he'll bother you again. teach a [wo]man to code, [s]he'll stfu and gtfo. |
| 03:09.50 | Syzgyn | Very politically correct |
| 03:09.57 | Cide | s/ politically // |
| 03:10.38 | Syzgyn | ? |
| 03:10.38 | Cide | /sigh |
| 03:10.39 | Syzgyn | No, I get it |
| 03:10.57 | Lunessa | Lao Tzu rewritten. |
| 03:11.39 | WobWork | it coincides with... three words or so =P |
| 03:11.56 | WobWork | So maybe Lao Tzu rewritten |
| 03:11.59 | WobWork | by Uwe bolle |
| 03:12.03 | Syzgyn | haha |
| 03:12.08 | Cide | did you just compare me to Uwe Boll? |
| 03:12.10 | Cide | get out |
| 03:12.36 | squidbear | shouldn't current_time be the same as GetTime() ? |
| 03:13.58 | Cide | you tell us. |
| 03:14.03 | Cide | stop asking questions and figure it out |
| 03:18.00 | Cide | it's not like it's rocket surgery |
| 03:18.50 | squidbear | got it. |
| 03:19.40 | Syzgyn | I bet rocket surgery would be pretty easy |
| 03:20.16 | squidbear | Unless you're alergic to glue |
| 03:21.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Anyone who compares Cide to Uwe Bolle is a winner in my book |
| 03:21.32 | WobWork | ^^ |
| 03:22.31 | Syzgyn | Lol |
| 03:24.26 | Cide | dude |
| 03:24.56 | Cide | if you can't even spell his name right, don't bother |
| 03:25.00 | Cide | besides, I hate Uwe Boll |
| 03:25.32 | ScytheBlade1 | s/Bolle/Boll/ |
| 03:27.53 | Syzgyn | I'm pretty sure everyone hates Uwe Boll |
| 03:28.21 | Lunessa | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9679751331&sid=2000 - *facepalm* Rule number one of forums. Never, never, never explain the joke. |
| 03:29.28 | squidbear | is there a way to make my counter stop after a loading screen? |
| 03:29.37 | squidbear | and/or make the music keep playing? |
| 03:30.21 | Syzgyn | Register the events for loading starting and stopping, go from there |
| 03:30.45 | squidbear | oh okay. thanks |
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| 03:44.37 | Tekkub | lol critical failure... http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/09/08/beta-realms-down-tomorrow-for-maintenance/ |
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| 03:45.37 | Paratus | Anyone here familiar with guild bank functions? I have a mostly finished script with some bugs.. I'd be willing to pay a little to help fix it. :) |
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| 03:48.31 | Syzgyn | Tekkub: Bahaha |
| 03:48.43 | Tekkub | isn't that just sad Syz? |
| 03:49.04 | Tekkub | I can't wait for "Breaking news, 3 beta battlegroups offline!" |
| 03:50.06 | Syzgyn | Will the beta now move to planned maintenance instead of spontaneous crashes? Lololol |
| 03:50.36 | Tekkub | beta *has* planned maint... they push builds out on fridays, for the most part |
| 03:51.02 | Syzgyn | but 'instead' of crashes? riiiight |
| 03:51.25 | Shirik | crushing damage goes away in lich? |
| 03:51.43 | Tekkub | not completely |
| 03:51.47 | starlon | It's +4 levels instead of +3 |
| 03:52.06 | Tekkub | yea, it's becoming a "deterence" mechanism only |
| 03:52.08 | Syzgyn | For all practical purposes, yes |
| 03:52.47 | Tekkub | if you're p;laying "level appropriate" content, aye it's all gone |
| 03:52.49 | Shirik | odd |
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| 04:00.13 | Syzgyn | Is there a way to change a Texture's Level after its been created? |
| 04:00.53 | Tekkub | http://www.wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/LayeredRegion/SetDrawLayer |
| 04:00.54 | Shirik | !!! |
| 04:01.01 | Shirik | Has wotlk always had a manifest? |
| 04:01.09 | Tekkub | manifest? |
| 04:01.19 | Syzgyn | Thanks Tekkub |
| 04:01.50 | Tekkub | 7/22/2008 |
| 04:02.00 | Tekkub | sounda about when I installed the beta |
| 04:02.01 | Shirik | I asked them a while ago to add one :) |
| 04:02.19 | Shirik | except this still doesn't have UAC awareness :( |
| 04:04.14 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 04:04.17 | purl | ~pong |
| 04:04.31 | Shirik | gd brighthouse |
| 04:05.37 | Syzgyn | Duman: I just got a 4500 Heroic Throw crit |
| 04:05.50 | Fogger | I created both LUA & XML examples upto stage 3 in Tyroney's WoW UI Tutorial ( http://home.blarg.net/~tyroney/wow/uitutorial/ ) the author and a ss suggests the players name should appear in a tooltip, yet when running either version, I see nothing. the tutorial was created for TOC: 20100. Would anyone be kind enough to help me figure out whats wrong?, oh yeah, WARNING - WALL OF TEXT! :P |
| 04:05.57 | ScytheBlade1 | haha, wow |
| 04:05.57 | ScytheBlade1 | http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll173/rawrelysa/wow/bugged.jpg |
| 04:06.02 | krka | Fogger: Lua is actually a portuguese word and it means "moon" |
| 04:06.43 | Syzgyn | ScytheBlade1: Superhappyfuntime! |
| 04:06.45 | Fogger | well that answers it! |
| 04:06.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Syzgyn: heroic mode imo |
| 04:06.54 | Syzgyn | ^^ |
| 04:07.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Fogger: turn on lua errors |
| 04:07.23 | ScytheBlade1 | And read your FrameXML.log file |
| 04:07.39 | Fogger | lua errors is enabled, first thing I checked |
| 04:08.05 | Fogger | would appear the mod didnt exist, tho it is visible & enabled in Addons |
| 04:08.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Then your .toc is broke |
| 04:08.49 | Fogger | toc is pretty simple |
| 04:09.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh |
| 04:09.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I misread |
| 04:09.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Check your FrameXML.log file |
| 04:09.26 | Fogger | on it. |
| 04:10.07 | Fogger | Loading add-on testLUA, ** Loading table of contents Interface\AddOns\testLUA\testLUA.toc |
| 04:10.13 | Fogger | Error loading Interface\AddOns\testLUA\testaddon.lua |
| 04:10.15 | Fogger | mmm |
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| 04:10.42 | Fogger | omg i suck |
| 04:11.08 | kd3 | no worries. there's some pretty arcane hoops we all have to jump through the first time |
| 04:11.11 | Fogger | sorry for my stupidity, should work now :) |
| 04:11.54 | ScytheBlade1 | That's why FrameXML.log exists. :) |
| 04:12.20 | Fogger | typo ftl |
| 04:13.06 | Fogger | well, thats handy for xml-based addons, but I was hoping to move to LUA, oh well, xml 1 - lua 0 |
| 04:13.48 | Corrodias | OMG HE SAID "LUA" |
| 04:13.51 | Corrodias | WITH CAPSES |
| 04:14.01 | Syzgyn | CODE RED |
| 04:14.05 | ScytheBlade1 | It has errors for both lua based stuff and xml based stuff |
| 04:14.07 | Fogger | omg, die! |
| 04:14.10 | ScytheBlade1 | It is worth reading in almost all cases |
| 04:14.23 | Fogger | I dont know the error of my ways, forgive |
| 04:14.43 | Fogger | its habit for all abbrev type things |
| 04:14.45 | NightHawkTheSane | >.> they added a cold weather flying -trainer-? |
| 04:14.57 | kd3 | nhts; ya. we're all going wtf? at that still |
| 04:15.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Friend: What do you know about magnetic RAM? |
| 04:15.20 | NightHawkTheSane | its not like the quest was REMOTELY difficult |
| 04:15.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Me: Don't touch it to hard drives |
| 04:15.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Friend: Thank.. Thanks |
| 04:15.41 | NightHawkTheSane | blind and dumb monkeys could have done it! |
| 04:16.20 | WobWork | does the trainer knit little woolen booties for your mount? |
| 04:16.38 | WobWork | and a scarf and a hat with bobbles? |
| 04:16.43 | NightHawkTheSane | i'd kill for little woolen booties on my -troll- |
| 04:16.45 | NightHawkTheSane | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:16.58 | NightHawkTheSane | northrend makes her feet sooo cold.. :( |
| 04:18.24 | NightHawkTheSane | kd3: out of curiosity, how much does it cost? (i'm on my shaman who already had it..) |
| 04:18.33 | kd3 | 950 |
| 04:18.40 | NightHawkTheSane | is the quest still in? |
| 04:18.46 | kd3 | I've heard mixed reports |
| 04:18.51 | WobWork | I wish someone would give me 5k for epic flying |
| 04:18.57 | ScytheBlade1 | It's not like the quest is hard.. |
| 04:18.59 | WobWork | <.< |
| 04:19.00 | WobWork | >.> |
| 04:19.07 | NightHawkTheSane | hm. i -hope- the quest is still in |
| 04:19.09 | ScytheBlade1 | WobWork: on beta? |
| 04:19.14 | WobWork | no on live =) |
| 04:19.20 | WobWork | I just hit 70 |
| 04:19.25 | NightHawkTheSane | i mean, 950 won't be hard to get, but i'd rather do a quest and get paid for it. :D |
| 04:20.21 | Fogger | Confirmed: both versions of the mod now function as intended, thanks to you, oh wise and patient ones |
| 04:20.34 | Hey-WTF | is it a bad thing that math makes my head hurt? :o |
| 04:20.51 | Fogger | nah, thats what calculators are for ;) |
| 04:20.59 | Syzgyn | Bahaha, Spore has 1065 1 star reviews on Amazon now |
| 04:21.06 | kd3 | ya. that's kinda funny |
| 04:21.13 | kd3 | not that it'll make a difference at all |
| 04:21.16 | WobWork | Is it that terrible? |
| 04:21.17 | Hey-WTF | Fogger: except when variables are involved :o |
| 04:21.46 | Hey-WTF | trying to modify quartz to show a clip box for mind flay :o (i.e. showing it accounting for latency rather than just using a static texture) |
| 04:22.04 | Syzgyn | WobWork: Everyone is slamming it for the DRM |
| 04:22.16 | kd3 | some cracks. a few keygens... heh |
| 04:22.21 | kd3 | so, so not surprised |
| 04:22.22 | Syzgyn | Plus apparently the first half of the game is sorta boring |
| 04:22.44 | Fogger | I like radical new games more than most, and I've been looking forward to Spore since it was first announced, but I was dissapointed and bored, before completeing the 2nd stage of evolution, oh well. |
| 04:23.04 | Hey-WTF | I've heard it as trying to be something for everyone and lacking for everyone |
| 04:23.13 | WobWork | I thought it'd be Black&White-esqe |
| 04:23.18 | Fogger | yeah, that fits the picture |
| 04:23.24 | Fogger | B&W owned |
| 04:23.38 | WobWork | It was clever for innovation |
| 04:23.44 | Fogger | this well, maybe if I can force myself into space travel, maybe everything will be better. |
| 04:23.46 | WobWork | but got kinda boring |
| 04:23.52 | Arrowmaster | really the main part of the game is the space travel |
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| 04:24.06 | Arrowmaster | but its kinda broken too |
| 04:24.13 | WobWork | if you have to force yourself to play to get to that point though, the game has already failed |
| 04:24.28 | Shirik | omg |
| 04:24.33 | Shirik | how come I never get this lucky |
| 04:24.38 | Syzgyn | because.... |
| 04:24.40 | Syzgyn | ~failrik |
| 04:24.40 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 04:24.44 | WobWork | god hates you? |
| 04:24.47 | Shirik | Guild member just made one pot, got a proc of 5 and two discoveries |
| 04:24.51 | Arrowmaster | yeah the game is not for everybody |
| 04:24.52 | Syzgyn | Holy crap |
| 04:24.55 | WobWork | rofl =) |
| 04:25.02 | kd3 | the hell! |
| 04:25.04 | Fogger | the first spore stage would make a lovely screensaver tho :P |
| 04:25.25 | Syzgyn | I hate how I make metric craptons of haste pots every week, and still am missing Flask of Fortification |
| 04:25.25 | WobWork | You do realise, he will never ever get another proc for the rest of his life =) |
| 04:25.48 | Thunder_Child | doesnt matter, that was epic |
| 04:25.48 | Arrowmaster | ill probably play it some more once the different bonuses for how you complete each stage are documented better |
| 04:25.52 | Arrowmaster | so i can plan ahead |
| 04:25.55 | Fogger | screenshot or it didnt happen |
| 04:26.29 | Arrowmaster | Syzgyn: discoveries are tied to type i thought, you need to make elixers to discover flasks |
| 04:26.34 | Fogger | I am convinced & tested to a reasonable point that discoveries are capped |
| 04:26.42 | Syzgyn | :\ |
| 04:27.05 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: what pot did he make and what discoveries did he get? |
| 04:27.29 | Shirik | [#] 00:22:48 [G] <70:Darthmoo>: woot god damn me lucky [Alchemy: Super Rejuvenation Potion] [Alchemy: Cauldron of Major Shadow Protection] |
| 04:27.48 | kd3 | so he was making shadow pots |
| 04:27.55 | Shirik | ya |
| 04:27.58 | Shirik | major shadow protection pot |
| 04:28.00 | NightHawkTheSane | and the cauldron's are a high chance to discover i believe |
| 04:28.01 | Syzgyn | Thats kinda cheating |
| 04:28.03 | Syzgyn | ^ |
| 04:28.07 | Shirik | I have no cauldrons! |
| 04:28.19 | NightHawkTheSane | so he basically just got particularly lucky with the super rejuv recipe |
| 04:28.23 | Syzgyn | I'm still missing 2 resist potion recipes lol |
| 04:28.24 | Arrowmaster | well you can only discover cauldrons by making the pot of its type |
| 04:28.38 | Syzgyn | Fucking Mech and Mana Tombs |
| 04:29.00 | Syzgyn | Oh, and Old Hillsbrad |
| 04:30.33 | Tem | Anyone familliar with the Kalecgos fight? |
| 04:31.34 | Fogger | yep |
| 04:31.39 | Fogger | portals |
| 04:36.24 | Fogger | was there a question to follow? :) |
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| 04:47.29 | Thunder_Child | not really, tem is...well....tem |
| 04:47.58 | Tem | Fogger, how does the barrier work? |
| 04:48.43 | Arrowmaster | Tem: it pops up and prevents you from walking through it |
| 04:48.50 | Tem | right, but like |
| 04:48.56 | Tem | when does it appear? |
| 04:48.59 | Tem | when does it go? |
| 04:49.05 | Tem | who does it block? |
| 04:49.05 | Arrowmaster | seconds after you pull |
| 04:49.22 | Tem | when we wipe, I see him run to the hut and despawn |
| 04:49.25 | Arrowmaster | although when it first appears you can still move through it for a few seconds too |
| 04:49.32 | Tem | so somehow people are getting out to pull him to the hut |
| 04:49.35 | Tem | how? |
| 04:49.37 | Arrowmaster | mages |
| 04:49.39 | Arrowmaster | blink |
| 04:49.57 | Arrowmaster | thats the only way to get through it |
| 04:50.28 | Tem | cool, thanks |
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| 04:53.23 | Syzgyn | Lol, I get invited to a group and the server dies |
| 04:53.31 | WobWork | Jesus |
| 04:53.32 | WobWork | "The introduction of TradElect, the culmination of a four year investment in next generation technology, will deliver a step change in trading capabilities to the London market," said David Lester, chief information officer at the Exchange. "As high-frequency algorithmic traders look globally for pools of liquidity in which to find alpha opportunities, TradElect sets new benchmarks in terms of system capacity and performance." |
| 04:53.41 | WobWork | Wall of buzzwords crit you for 600000000 |
| 04:54.05 | kd3 | so... their 5 nines SLA's shot for... oh... 100 years? |
| 04:55.25 | Tekkub | translation: We have a coputer program that selects shit for us to buy. Since we worked on it for 4 years, it *must* be good |
| 04:57.38 | WobWork | apparently it was a network issue |
| 04:59.27 | Neuro_Medivh | What I wanna know is, how can something that is 4 years old still be considered next gen tech? |
| 04:59.43 | Neuro_Medivh | shit, my cell phone was obsolete after a friggin' MONTH |
| 05:00.17 | Thunder_Child | Neuro_Medivh, because there is nothing better |
| 05:00.49 | Neuro_Medivh | Thunder_Child, after 4 years there has to be |
| 05:00.58 | Neuro_Medivh | since they are referencing technology |
| 05:00.58 | Thunder_Child | Neuro_Medivh, no, not really |
| 05:00.59 | Tekkub | Neuro_Medivh, because as "next gen" has changed over the years, they've reinvested in it |
| 05:01.42 | Neuro_Medivh | that sounds like Daikatana's line =) |
| 05:02.15 | Thunder_Child | duke nukem anyway? |
| 05:02.25 | Thunder_Child | s/anyway/anyone/ |
| 05:02.38 | Sixen | Why are we shuddering? |
| 05:03.04 | Neuro_Medivh | but I agree with Tek's translation |
| 05:03.46 | Tekkub | well duh |
| 05:18.49 | WobWork | Tekkub: however, they never specified -which- generation they were next after |
| 05:20.11 | Thunder_Child | WobWork, your generation |
| 05:21.00 | WobWork | nowhere does it say that |
| 05:21.24 | Thunder_Child | "Thunder_Child: WobWork, your generation" <-- says it right there |
| 05:21.46 | WobWork | WobWork> nowhere does it say that <--- It' |
| 05:21.49 | WobWork | s said nowhere |
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| 06:30.02 | NightHawkTheSane | wow, the battle at light's hope is so much more awesome with voices. |
| 06:30.07 | NightHawkTheSane | (as cheesy as they may be) |
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| 07:06.32 | Shirik | Hmmmm |
| 07:06.36 | Shirik | I'm liking this new guardian spirit |
| 07:06.55 | Shirik | Heals 10% of maximum HP, no mana cost, no cast time |
| 07:07.05 | Shirik | And most importantly, no cooldown, no global cooldown |
| 07:07.09 | Shirik | so much win |
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| 07:08.15 | nevcairiel | hm wtf is wrong with the EU beta server, is it just my bad luck, or why is the world server down like the last hours when i try to login |
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| 07:14.27 | Fisker- | it's just you that sucks nevcairiel |
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| 07:22.32 | Tem | boom |
| 07:22.54 | Tekkub | down da hole |
| 07:23.27 | Tem | down the bowl, around the hole, rolld, tide, roll |
| 07:24.06 | Tekkub | is that your flushing song? |
| 07:25.28 | Syzgyn | lol |
| 07:25.37 | Shirik | time for sleep |
| 07:26.03 | Tem | no, it's a geer |
| 07:26.15 | Tem | and you brought it to mind when you said "down da hole" |
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| 08:23.41 | bleeter | kd3: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9679631427&sid=1 |
| 08:24.37 | Jamash1 | win by blue |
| 08:30.01 | sylvanaar | omg level 80, 4:30am, must work in 4 hours |
| 08:30.19 | Cairenn | lol |
| 08:31.03 | sylvanaar | i need a new illness to have |
| 08:31.18 | sylvanaar | ok - going to bed |
| 08:31.32 | Tekkub | sylvanaar, call in gay |
| 08:31.40 | Tekkub | you can probably get the whole week off |
| 08:32.17 | sylvanaar | done it |
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| 08:32.36 | sylvanaar | it doesnt work now |
| 08:32.40 | sylvanaar | dr |
| 08:33.47 | Tekkub | http://wowcomic.stratics.com/?p=28 cute passed out bear |
| 08:40.18 | zenzio | "I think the message was received. Let's not let the thread degenerate into needless chiming-in--instead, I'll encase it in digital bronze, a lustrous metallic monument for our descendants to gaze upon in wonder and say "Did people really make these kinds of arguments in the olden days?""... lol |
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| 08:46.42 | Cairenn | zenzio: ? |
| 08:47.19 | zenzio | Cairenn: last post in the thread bleeter linked |
| 08:47.30 | Cairenn | ah |
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| 08:55.02 | zenzio | got to love guildie jokes... "You will be missed and when youve finaly found your sexual orientation we await you back." (in response to someone jumping guild) |
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| 09:24.49 | Ycarene | anyone know if there new patch notes for the beta? |
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| 09:30.19 | nevcairiel | they updated the official patch notes thread a few days ago |
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| 10:06.23 | Adys | What was the address for the comparisons between luas between wow builds? |
| 10:06.36 | nevcairiel | wowcompares.com |
| 10:06.56 | Adys | thx :) |
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| 10:40.57 | ReAn | ok, i have no idea how |
| 10:41.29 | ReAn | but i think i somehow made my mod not saved in the layout-cache anymore |
| 10:41.38 | ReAn | anyone think of a common mistake i prolly made? |
| 10:46.21 | haste | :SetUserPlaced(true) missing? |
| 10:46.58 | haste | the frame is also required to have a name, and to be spawned fairly early |
| 10:47.00 | ReAn | it is, however... it's odd because it used to be fine |
| 10:47.40 | ReAn | but thanks, i think this will fix it |
| 10:48.05 | ReAn | nope :( |
| 10:48.21 | ReAn | moving my frame then /console reloadui snaps it back to the center |
| 10:48.43 | haste | when are you setpoint-ing it/ |
| 10:49.00 | ReAn | right before my show |
| 10:49.03 | ReAn | like |
| 10:49.13 | ReAn | 10 instructions into my OnInitialize() |
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| 10:50.14 | haste | that doesn't really tell me anything, except that it's most likely after blizzard having done the frame positions |
| 10:50.16 | ReAn | i moved it to right after the CreateFrame(...) and no lick |
| 10:50.43 | ReAn | it's right after OnEvent -> "ADDON_LOADED" or "PLAYER_LOGIN" |
| 10:50.57 | ReAn | whichever comes first |
| 10:50.59 | wereHamster | pastey the code! |
| 10:51.11 | ReAn | er, sec |
| 10:52.36 | haste | ReAn: http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_that_fire_during_the_Loading_Process |
| 10:53.37 | Fisker- | my friend |
| 10:54.48 | haste | lies |
| 10:56.18 | ReAn | haste: http://pastebin.com/m3dc3ed21 |
| 10:58.00 | haste | read the wiki entry I gave you |
| 10:58.08 | ReAn | i did |
| 10:58.15 | ReAn | my shit's firing when it's supposed to |
| 10:58.22 | ReAn | on "ADDON_LOADED" |
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| 10:58.59 | haste | anyway, better handle it yourself |
| 10:59.04 | cbreak | looks like there will not be a second beta server, and therefore no pre-made characters :( |
| 10:59.12 | haste | that way it saves over session also |
| 10:59.23 | haste | sessions without the addon* |
| 11:04.50 | cbreak | I guess we have to properly beta test the addon changes on the PTR or life 3.0 :/ |
| 11:05.36 | wereHamster | ReAn: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4865-IFrameManager.html - saves frame positions in saved variables instead of the layout cache |
| 11:07.20 | Fisker- | ok haste |
| 11:07.22 | Fisker- | MY MORTAL ENEMY |
| 11:07.35 | ReAn | thx wereHamster |
| 11:07.56 | haste | Fisker-: \:D/ |
| 11:08.09 | haste | buy me an epic mount! |
| 11:08.16 | Fisker- | you are my enemy |
| 11:08.20 | haste | I can't be arsed to farm 600g :( |
| 11:08.54 | Fisker- | then you shouldn't have become my enemy |
| 11:10.00 | haste | \:D/ |
| 11:10.18 | haste | I can't remember; how did you do git show rev with svn :p ? |
| 11:11.24 | Fisker- | i hope you die |
| 11:11.43 | haste | I already have |
| 11:11.59 | Fisker- | i has mouse |
| 11:12.11 | haste | i has rat |
| 11:12.28 | Fisker- | i has ca |
| 11:12.29 | Fisker- | cat |
| 11:12.57 | haste | allergic :( |
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| 11:18.01 | Fisker- | haste my enemy |
| 11:18.27 | ReAn | anyone know if there's a max number of Frame Levels in a strata? |
| 11:19.28 | starlon | haste: oUF combo points aren't working in beta. That event doesn't fire. I guess it was removed and replaced by UNIT_COMBO_POINTS. |
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| 11:20.17 | haste | starlon: update |
| 11:20.43 | starlon | k |
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| 11:54.58 | Bouvi | Morning all. |
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| 12:02.06 | ReAn | Anyone know if it's possible to upload beta versions of my mod to the "Beta" tab from my pc and not packaged off the svn? |
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| 12:02.22 | nevcairiel | sure it is |
| 12:02.31 | ReAn | how? |
| 12:02.45 | ReAn | er, this is WoWI im talking about |
| 12:03.27 | ReAn | i wonder where Cairenn, she was here a little while ago >_>, the un-sleeping canadian |
| 12:04.02 | nevcairiel | when i click edit on my project i just have a box there to upload new files |
| 12:04.09 | ReAn | yea |
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| 12:04.14 | ReAn | but that goes to the main like |
| 12:04.32 | ReAn | when you package off the WoWI SVN there's an option to make a beta release |
| 12:04.37 | ReAn | it get's it's own tab on the top |
| 12:05.39 | ReAn | Example: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9565-BattleBar.html |
| 12:06.06 | nevcairiel | ah, yeah i was confused, i though you meant into the wotlk-beta category |
| 12:06.38 | Cairenn | no, not currently possible other than through the svn - instead upload to the (regular) beta category |
| 12:07.01 | ReAn | thx for the clarification Cairenn |
| 12:07.22 | ReAn | i guess my beta is rather stable so i'll just push it to the stable releases for now >_> |
| 12:07.37 | Cairenn | will be possible eventually, D.olby just doesn't have it coded in yet |
| 12:07.51 | ReAn | He's a busy guy im sure :D |
| 12:08.13 | Cairenn | big time |
| 12:09.34 | Kalroth_ | You need to clone him |
| 12:09.59 | ReAn | True |
| 12:10.07 | Cairenn | don't I wish |
| 12:10.13 | ReAn | heh |
| 12:10.44 | ReAn | Yay! Mod updated :D Now i can begin to get ready to sleep... maybe.... |
| 12:10.59 | nevcairiel | sleep is for the week |
| 12:11.05 | nevcairiel | *weak |
| 12:11.05 | ReAn | yes |
| 12:11.06 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 12:11.09 | ReAn | i like to sleep this week |
| 12:11.14 | ReAn | a whole week |
| 12:11.16 | ReAn | i could do it |
| 12:11.35 | ReAn | O.O |
| 12:11.45 | ReAn | Fast Approval! |
| 12:11.49 | ReAn | Thanks Cairenn! |
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| 12:11.59 | Cairenn | :) |
| 12:12.34 | Maldivia | hmm... what to do what to do... |
| 12:12.36 | ReAn | I wonder if i can break 4k downloads before my new graphics are ready :D |
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| 12:16.40 | [SW]Dodge | ReAn: yea wowi approval is fast :D i didnt even seen anything that tolds me that i have to wait untlil my addon is approved :D |
| 12:17.23 | Bouvi | Is there somewhere I can go to read how the WoWI SVN works? |
| 12:17.27 | ReAn | I meant the File Approval |
| 12:17.33 | ReAn | Bouvi: FAQ's |
| 12:17.53 | ReAn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/faq.php?faq=developer#faq_svn |
| 12:17.57 | Bouvi | Well DUH lol. Thanks |
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| 12:19.05 | Bouvi | Do you need a PC for SVN or can you do it from a Mac? I have a Mac at work. |
| 12:19.31 | ReAn | svn prolly compiles natively on mac os X |
| 12:19.44 | ReAn | since it was originally developed for *nix |
| 12:20.06 | ReAn | however you prolly wont have a fancy gui like TortoiseSVN |
| 12:20.07 | wereHamster | Bouvi: at work you are supposed to be productive, and not work on WoW addons! |
| 12:20.26 | p3lim | is there some turtorial on making a random LDB plugin? |
| 12:20.38 | ReAn | p3lim: no |
| 12:20.47 | ReAn | i had to bug Tekkub |
| 12:20.48 | ReAn | lol |
| 12:21.00 | [SW]Dodge | YAY i see my NAME+ADDON in SVN FAQ :D:D |
| 12:21.09 | p3lim | Got an idea, just need to know how to make it compatible |
| 12:21.13 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 12:21.22 | [SW]Dodge | http://www.wowinterface.com/storage/faq/svn/sample_cia.jpg <- <3 |
| 12:21.44 | Bouvi | I can multitask :) Work + Addons + surfing + chat. |
| 12:23.23 | [SW]Dodge | Bouvi: no tv ? |
| 12:23.35 | [SW]Dodge | Bouvi: no music? |
| 12:23.45 | Bouvi | Music yes, videos from web yes |
| 12:23.48 | alestane | Those aren't tasks imo. |
| 12:24.03 | [SW]Dodge | alestane: but you have to follow a movie :D |
| 12:37.11 | [SW]Dodge | Cairenn: does the wowi svn support externals from wowace when building zip file? |
| 12:37.35 | Bouvi | Actually I am watching my scuba videos preparing for my test on Sunday and working on Dollywood Imagination Library brochures for various counties throughout the US :) |
| 12:51.49 | alestane | Are the values that go under RequiredDeps the names of the other add-ons, or their titles? |
| 12:52.57 | nevcairiel | the folder names |
| 12:53.33 | alestane | That's what I've just ascertained; thank you. |
| 12:54.55 | Corgan | Remind me never to pug on premade realms |
| 13:04.55 | Maldivia | Corgan: you mean play with a rogue who is convinced he's a good priest and can heal? |
| 13:05.09 | Corgan | something like that |
| 13:05.13 | Corgan | or a spastic ADD warlock |
| 13:05.25 | Corgan | who puts 5 points into a talent marked NYI |
| 13:05.32 | Maldivia | hehe |
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| 13:06.20 | Maldivia | well, I've copied a mage and priest premades, just to see if I want to level my priest and mage when it hits live :) |
| 13:06.47 | Maldivia | but as it looks right now, I think I'll keep my druid |
| 13:07.03 | Maldivia | (altohugh Balance still need a bit of loving) |
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| 13:12.43 | Fisker- | Corgan have you considered not everyone knows the meaning of "NYI"? |
| 13:12.53 | Corgan | die fisker |
| 13:13.10 | Corgan | he ran towards anub'rekhan saying he was going to tank him |
| 13:15.39 | Maldivia | could be he was a hockey fan, and thought it was a reference to New York Islanders |
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| 13:36.30 | Nom- | http://techreport.com/r.x/intel-x25m/iometer-resp-web.gif <--- wtb some of those X25-M drives |
| 13:36.33 | Nom- | ! |
| 13:41.08 | Fisker- | OM NOM NOM |
| 13:41.11 | Fisker- | how expensive? |
| 13:43.33 | Tem | Any ret pally: ping? |
| 13:43.41 | Nom- | yeah, me ? |
| 13:43.48 | Nom- | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:44.14 | Tem | Nom-, you have a ret pally? |
| 13:44.33 | Nom- | Tem: Yes |
| 13:44.45 | Tem | Do you scale with haste? |
| 13:45.18 | Nom- | Tem: Yes to a degree |
| 13:45.30 | Nom- | Most of DPS still comes from white damage and procs on the white damage |
| 13:45.41 | Tem | okay, that's good |
| 13:46.00 | Nom- | judgement, crusader strike, and the new ability in wrath are not affected |
| 13:46.06 | Nom- | I don't think the cooldown is impacted at all |
| 13:46.39 | cbreak | the only CD spell haste affects is the GCD |
| 13:47.10 | Nom- | Yeah, which doesn't really count, given ret pallies aren't bound by GCD |
| 13:47.15 | Nom- | They're bound by ability cooldowns |
| 13:47.33 | Fisker- | Is it possible somehow to remove the recycle bin icon? |
| 13:47.49 | Tem | Fisker-, yes |
| 13:48.09 | Fisker- | giev guide |
| 13:48.09 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 13:48.15 | Tem | Fisker-, what os? |
| 13:48.18 | Fisker- | XP |
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| 13:48.25 | Tem | right click your desktop |
| 13:48.29 | Tem | select properties |
| 13:48.49 | Tem | (I'm going from memory as I'm not currently on xp) |
| 13:48.57 | Fisker- | If you're suggesting what i think you are, then you don't actually have the possibility to remove it from there |
| 13:49.12 | Tem | there's a tab there that lets you place stuff on the desktop |
| 13:49.17 | Tem | like my computer |
| 13:49.29 | Tem | and the recycle bin should be an option too |
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| 13:49.33 | Maldivia | Fisker-: Skrivebord, "Tilpas skrivebordet" |
| 13:49.54 | Fisker- | Tem it isn't |
| 13:50.01 | Tem | Nom-, basically I'm just making sure that ret pallies scale as well as warriors and rogues from haste |
| 13:50.15 | Fisker- | Anyways might have found a better workaround |
| 13:50.16 | Nom- | no, not as well |
| 13:50.16 | Tem | mostly concerned about LK |
| 13:50.17 | Maldivia | Tem: recyclke bin is not available there |
| 13:50.22 | Tem | eh well |
| 13:50.25 | Tem | then I dunno |
| 13:50.33 | Maldivia | the TweakUI tools should have that option though |
| 13:50.41 | Nom- | they scale, but not as well as rogues or warriors |
| 13:50.48 | Tem | curses |
| 13:50.52 | Nom- | warriors since a lot of their abilities are on next hit |
| 13:50.56 | cbreak | why do they have to scale as well as warriors with haste? |
| 13:51.06 | Lopeppeppy | Tem, darlin'.... did you really expect ret to scale at all? |
| 13:51.14 | cbreak | not all classes have to prefer the same stats |
| 13:51.25 | Tem | Lopeppeppy, well, if it were up to me, Ret would be a solo spec and that's it |
| 13:51.28 | Nom- | DK is in a similar situation as Pally... so many abilities are based on weapon damage with cooldowns, so hase is actually detremental |
| 13:51.42 | cbreak | spirit is completely worthless for dps casters like mages, but priests might want it. a natural gear separation |
| 13:52.24 | Tem | Well, to make things less painful for all plate wearing classes, it would be nice if we all wanted the same dps stats |
| 13:52.51 | Tem | and since DKs and ret pallies value haste less than warrios, _someone_ isn't going to like their gear |
| 13:53.18 | Nom- | Yeah... well i think everything (warriors, pallies and DK) will want non-haste gear |
| 13:53.21 | Tem | I'd rather make DKs and pallies scale as well as warriors with haste |
| 13:53.27 | Nom- | but warriors will certainly not pass on haste gear |
| 13:53.33 | Maldivia | cbreak: well, all caster will want some spirit, some classes more than others though |
| 13:53.46 | Tem | since we get will "always" get haste in raids |
| 13:53.56 | cbreak | I don't think mages actively look for spirit, unless they are arcane spec |
| 13:54.01 | Tem | we need to benefit from that haste in order to stay competative with rogues |
| 13:54.09 | cbreak | it only boosts endurance in a limited fashion if you use mage armor |
| 13:54.10 | Tem | cbreak, mages HATE spirit |
| 13:54.11 | alestane | I'm willing to have a couple different categories of DPS gear, but I'd like to avoid the "1 per class/spec combination" trend that was developing. |
| 13:54.21 | cbreak | or have the specs for meditation |
| 13:54.39 | Tem | the only mages that go after spirit are the mutant crazy mages who refuse to leave the arcane spec in 2004 |
| 13:54.57 | cbreak | you forgot the arcane mages of 2008 |
| 13:55.08 | Tem | those were the ones from 2004 |
| 13:55.17 | Tem | ugh I hate the tree so much |
| 13:55.28 | Tem | I wish the important abilities from it were baseline and the whole thing was removed |
| 13:55.30 | Lopeppeppy | Tem, I'm a sad panda, I'm afraid that this will cause my raid group to outlaw the one ret I was able to shovel down their throats... |
| 13:55.44 | cbreak | at least it's better than fire :) |
| 13:55.58 | Tem | cbreak, how so? |
| 13:56.19 | Tem | theoretically, fire should always outdps arcane |
| 13:56.23 | cbreak | no stupid dots on targets, no red spells :) |
| 13:56.31 | cbreak | maybe |
| 13:56.38 | Nom- | wtb faster redhat.com |
| 13:56.51 | Nom- | I have fk knows how many Gbps between me and the US |
| 13:56.56 | Tem | *shrug* I have a grudge against arcane from playing a mage |
| 13:56.59 | Tem | I hate the tree |
| 13:57.00 | Nom- | And I can only get 200KB/s |
| 13:57.08 | Tem | and it's usually nub mages that are attracted to it |
| 13:57.27 | cbreak | I think nub mages go fire because everyone says fire is the only raid spec |
| 13:57.27 | Tem | pick a real spec, please |
| 13:57.50 | Nom- | I raided as frost for aaaaaaaaages |
| 13:57.53 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 13:57.54 | Nom- | before i retired my mage that is |
| 13:57.54 | Fisker- | i win |
| 13:58.02 | Fisker- | Microsoft = Win as usual |
| 13:58.03 | Tem | I did too |
| 13:58.18 | cbreak | I did everything as frost |
| 13:58.18 | Fisker- | there was a group policy that removes the recycle bin |
| 13:58.21 | Nom- | With the new buffs in wrath, frost is going to come back in a big way I reckon |
| 13:58.21 | Tem | I moved to fire for dps in TBC because it was actually viable again |
| 13:58.22 | Fisker- | or even better, removes the whole desktop |
| 13:58.24 | Tem | and it was fun |
| 13:58.34 | cbreak | appart from a short 2 week break as arcane when dual trinkets were still allowed |
| 13:58.40 | Fisker- | wut lol |
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| 13:58.54 | Tem | heh |
| 13:59.07 | Tem | I tried the APPOMPYRO spec when I got both trinkets too |
| 13:59.13 | Tem | and I hated every minute of it |
| 13:59.21 | Fisker- | bugged my desktop now |
| 13:59.22 | Maldivia | hmm, personally haven't really raided as a mage since kara |
| 13:59.24 | cbreak | [flyable]Â is still broken. lame |
| 13:59.26 | Fisker- | probably have to relog |
| 13:59.29 | Tem | I was more effective as 17/0/34 |
| 13:59.34 | Fisker- | I can "minimize" my desktop now >:E |
| 13:59.44 | Maldivia | Fisker-: nice :9 |
| 13:59.56 | Tem | Fisker-, what's behind it? |
| 14:00.03 | alestane | I have added the recycle bin to the start menu before...trying to remember if I actually pulled it off the desktop or simply stopped moving windows to get at it. |
| 14:00.13 | Fisker- | the desktop! |
| 14:00.17 | Fisker- | But you can't right click or anything |
| 14:01.05 | Maldivia | alestane: can do that with a simple desktop.ini file |
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| 14:02.02 | Fisker- | nlite is cool for all that btw |
| 14:02.16 | Fisker- | Gives you a lot of tweaks to build into your slipstream |
| 14:03.03 | Fisker- | http://i33.tinypic.com/2s9658k.jpg <-best desktop ever |
| 14:03.40 | |pez| | That looks like mine! |
| 14:04.38 | Fisker- | I'm all for the eradication of the desktop |
| 14:05.02 | Fisker- | it poisons your mind |
| 14:05.50 | Fisker- | was a "Post your desktop" thread obviously |
| 14:05.59 | Fisker- | so i guess i'd obvious troll them a bit with my empty desktop :D |
| 14:06.34 | cbreak | I have a desktop with 0 icons |
| 14:06.42 | cbreak | my desktop background is #808080 |
| 14:07.16 | |pez| | I do sort of like my Vista taskbar look though.. |
| 14:07.29 | cbreak | I have the menu bar on top, but my dock is on auto hide |
| 14:07.56 | cbreak | do you realy like that blue color? |
| 14:08.35 | |pez| | blue? it's more... dark and shiny |
| 14:08.48 | cbreak | I mean in fisker's ss |
| 14:08.55 | |pez| | Oooh |
| 14:08.59 | Fisker- | i actually like it yeah >:3 |
| 14:09.20 | cbreak | I find gray less distracting |
| 14:09.26 | Fisker- | true |
| 14:09.35 | Fisker- | there's so much beauty in windows blue |
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| 14:15.34 | cbreak | world server only down once every 10 or 20 mins, quite an improvement |
| 14:16.41 | Nom- | Anyone here got the OSS Radeon Drivers working in Linux with a recent card ? |
| 14:17.04 | Nom- | ima give it another go i think |
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| 14:23.30 | wereHamster | Nom-: radeon or radeonhd? |
| 14:23.38 | Nom- | hd |
| 14:24.05 | wereHamster | you might want to ask in #radeonhd |
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| 14:40.09 | Tem | arg |
| 14:40.20 | Tem | I can't get this wyrmrest achievement |
| 14:40.54 | Maldivia | the 2 min daily? |
| 14:41.38 | Tem | yeah |
| 14:41.49 | Maldivia | I'm donw to 2min 7sec |
| 14:41.50 | Tem | I'm consistently about 15s short |
| 14:42.08 | Maldivia | havent broken the 2 min barrier yet, since they implemented the party restriction |
| 14:43.23 | Tem | this crap where my destabalize spell doesn't work sometimes is pissing me off |
| 14:43.27 | nevcairiel | Whenever i try, it starts lagging horribly |
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| 15:03.07 | cbreak | great, world server in yoyo mode again :( |
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| 15:29.33 | Kaso | http://img.waffleimages.com/885de0e43f0d1ea1338fd4910782518f54de6456/Error.jpg |
| 15:29.39 | Kaso | <3 this screenshot |
| 15:30.20 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 15:30.49 | alestane | Did someone attempt to run two instances of it? |
| 15:32.54 | Esine | alestane, you're not allowed to think rationally :I that screenshot is proof that micro$hat is ev1l and their products are buggy and that's that |
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| 15:33.13 | Esine | also remember to spell it with $ every time |
| 15:33.45 | nevcairiel | I support rational thinking! |
| 15:34.01 | zenzelezz | why do people still spell Microsoft with a dollar sign and random variations of similar words replacing "soft"? Fair enough you don't like them, but your arguments would sound more sound if you used the proper name |
| 15:34.05 | Kaso | lol Esine ;p |
| 15:34.26 | cncfanatics | ~microsoft |
| 15:34.26 | purl | "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is the day they start making vacuum cleaners." |
| 15:34.26 | Cide | because they still think it's cool |
| 15:34.36 | nevcairiel | zenzelezz people dont realize that "leet speek" makes people look dumb |
| 15:34.52 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: tell them to get a name like mine and they'll never forget |
| 15:34.53 | Cide | microsoft is pretty awesome |
| 15:34.53 | Kaso | Esine, http://i33.tinypic.com/2hz4u3c.png |
| 15:35.01 | Esine | well I don't think anyone really talks like that unless with a tongue in cheek :P |
| 15:35.03 | Kaso | Im an equal opportunity software mocker |
| 15:35.17 | foxlit | http://static.escapistmagazine.com/media/global/images/articles/article/5106/sp009.jpg |
| 15:36.49 | zenzelezz | foxlit: lol |
| 15:37.14 | cncfanatics | Kaso: lol, what app is that from ? |
| 15:38.26 | Kaso | ive no idea, just saw the screenshot once |
| 15:38.32 | p3lim | is there anything new in this year's harvest festival? |
| 15:38.40 | Kaso | some gtk download thing i guess? |
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| 15:43.26 | Amarande | Morning. |
| 15:43.36 | zenzelezz | hai |
| 15:43.46 | Amarande | Under Wine, if I want WoW to be playable by more than one user (a group has already been set up on my machine for this purpose) |
| 15:44.17 | Amarande | which directories under the WoW directory need to be group writable? |
| 15:44.24 | Amarande | Just Cache and WTF, or do I need something else? |
| 15:44.34 | cncfanatics | for patching, everything, for regular playing WTF & Cache should do indeed |
| 15:44.47 | cbreak | and Log |
| 15:44.55 | cncfanatics | ah yes, Log too indeed |
| 15:44.55 | cbreak | and possible Screenshots |
| 15:45.02 | haste | you should make a group for it tho' |
| 15:45.07 | Lopeppeppy | Everything, it's easier. |
| 15:45.19 | cncfanatics | Amarande: watch out when WoW creates new files also |
| 15:45.19 | haste | and you most likely have a game group |
| 15:45.26 | cncfanatics | they might not be owned by that group when they're created |
| 15:45.32 | cncfanatics | but by the user thats currently running wow |
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| 16:08.18 | Amarande | on a further technical point: other than the cache folder, are there any individual files that everyone in the wow group would need to be able to write to? |
| 16:08.40 | Amarande | we don't share accounts, and stuff in WTF is sorted by account (and I'm assuming stuff in Logs is specific to each time WoW is run) |
| 16:09.01 | Amarande | so I'm assuming only stuff in the cache folder would have situations where both users were trying to write to the same cache file on different occasions |
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| 16:19.55 | Beladona | why not just use linking? |
| 16:20.04 | Beladona | and keep cache etc... local to their profile? |
| 16:20.45 | Beladona | updates get done to the main wow directory, and only the cache and other user specific folders live under the user's home folder |
| 16:24.20 | Duman | hmm, 1-2 hour maint? |
| 16:26.13 | Amarande | Beladona, I don't know if you can include ~ in a symbolic link and have it work that way :) |
| 16:26.22 | Amarande | I've never actually tried that on a linux box before |
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| 16:26.43 | Beladona | shouldn't have to |
| 16:26.54 | Beladona | ~/WOW |
| 16:27.00 | Beladona | their folders inside |
| 16:27.10 | Beladona | symbolic links inside that folder that points to your global wow folder |
| 16:27.14 | Beladona | for the executables, etc |
| 16:27.23 | Beladona | data, that kind of thing |
| 16:27.23 | Amarande | ah, I never thought to do it that way |
| 16:27.30 | Lunessa | Yay symlinks! |
| 16:27.42 | Amarande | in any case, the only issue that might happen is if a cache file is rewritten by someone who doesn't have permission to do so |
| 16:27.53 | Amarande | however, I do not know if cache files are even ever rewritten once created |
| 16:27.58 | Beladona | that way they can tweak their addons, screenshots, log, cache and wtf folders all they want |
| 16:28.27 | Beladona | doing it the way I describe will cause it to create the cache file when that user loads |
| 16:28.35 | Beladona | if it doesn't already exist |
| 16:28.42 | Beladona | as long as they run it from that private folder |
| 16:31.13 | Josh_Borke | yea, bela makes good ideas |
| 16:33.42 | Amarande | ouch |
| 16:33.45 | Amarande | I never even got as far as finding that out |
| 16:33.50 | Amarande | I started WoW and got E132 |
| 16:33.58 | Beladona | thats how I currently do my dev vs live wow clients |
| 16:34.14 | Beladona | separate folders with symlinks to the shared stuff |
| 16:34.59 | Josh_Borke | you run linux! how dare you! |
| 16:35.06 | Beladona | meh |
| 16:35.15 | wereHamster | windows has symlinks too... |
| 16:35.15 | Beladona | my main desktop at home is windows |
| 16:35.20 | Beladona | yup |
| 16:35.42 | nevcairiel | just not that easy to use =P |
| 16:35.48 | nevcairiel | to create, rather |
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| 16:36.16 | Amarande | ah here we go |
| 16:36.18 | Amarande | that's slightly odd. |
| 16:36.28 | Amarande | if you attempt to go straight to playing WoW from a fresh install under Wine |
| 16:36.37 | Amarande | apparently you get E132 ... you have to exit, and then run the WoW launcher in a new instance of Wine |
| 16:36.39 | Beladona | there is a shell extension that makes symlinks easy in windows |
| 16:36.48 | Beladona | drag and drop just like linux |
| 16:36.54 | Josh_Borke | you're just asking for trouble then |
| 16:36.56 | Josh_Borke | wait, wait |
| 16:37.02 | Josh_Borke | what's this drag and drop business? |
| 16:37.07 | Beladona | otherwise its via cmd line |
| 16:37.29 | Amarande | by the way, has anyone else had painfully slow times for downloading patches lately? |
| 16:37.40 | Beladona | not here |
| 16:37.49 | Maldivia | old patches are often slow |
| 16:37.53 | Amarande | When I installed Debian, say, it took me about maybe 20-30 minutes to download 600MB or so of packages, if that |
| 16:38.03 | alestane | Not as many people to co-download with. |
| 16:38.06 | Amarande | it's saying 3 hours for the 2.3 WoW patch which is not much larger. |
| 16:38.12 | Amarande | maybe I should download it from a third party site? |
| 16:38.13 | Josh_Borke | your best bet is to pre-download the standalone patch |
| 16:38.19 | Beladona | are you using a torrent? |
| 16:38.23 | Beladona | that usually helps |
| 16:38.54 | Beladona | wowwiki should have the torrent versions of the official blizz patch downloads |
| 16:39.02 | Beladona | under patch mirrors |
| 16:39.40 | alestane | Anyone know if Grid is working on Beta at all? |
| 16:40.02 | Maldivia | the core functionality should work |
| 16:40.09 | Beladona | Josh_Borke: http://schinagl.priv.at/nt/hardlinkshellext/hardlinkshellext.html |
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| 16:40.27 | Beladona | shell extension in windows for creating junctions, symlinks, and hard links |
| 16:41.34 | Beladona | it even adds a an icon overlay for juntions and symlinks |
| 16:41.38 | Beladona | which is nice |
| 16:42.34 | Josh_Borke | junctions are nice |
| 16:42.35 | Amarande | ahh, here we go. |
| 16:42.38 | Amarande | also, what's odd is |
| 16:42.58 | Amarande | by default, if you install wow and then BC, the blizzard patch process will try to download 2.3.0, 2.3.2, 2.3.3, then 2.40 |
| 16:43.07 | Amarande | even though there is a 2.4.0 patch directly from 2.X |
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| 16:44.26 | Josh_Borke | Beladona: that's cool |
| 16:45.41 | cog|work | you know, spending >$100 on a single knife is a good way to guilt-trip yourself into cooking fresh food... |
| 16:46.27 | Josh_Borke | i'm not allowed to use knives |
| 16:46.41 | cog|work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9336800829&sid=1&pageNo=2#26 = this morning's excuse to play with my http://www.kershawknives.com/productdetails.php?id=255 |
| 16:46.50 | Amarande | Josh does not have the correct proficiency to use daggers |
| 16:46.56 | Amarande | he has to use one-handed swords to cut food :) |
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| 16:48.09 | Josh_Borke | report! off topic! |
| 16:48.20 | cog|work | dur Josh_Borke: l2r the op |
| 16:48.29 | Josh_Borke | i did! it's still off topic! |
| 16:48.35 | cog|work | zomg! |
| 16:48.40 | cog|work | reportehd! |
| 16:53.22 | Lunessa | cog|work: You must now make and share those with the entire community. |
| 16:53.29 | Lunessa | hop to it. |
| 16:53.38 | Josh_Borke | he should be forced to prepare for blizzcon |
| 16:53.39 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 16:54.08 | cog|work | Lunessa: pie 4 j00 |
| 16:54.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Also, quick poll |
| 16:54.21 | Lunessa | win |
| 16:54.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Who believes that the level 74 req to get into Dalaran is (option A) retarded or (option B) a good idea? |
| 16:54.38 | nevcairiel | B |
| 16:54.44 | malreth | ScytheBlade1: option c: the GREATEST idea |
| 16:54.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Option C is 100% valid too |
| 16:54.53 | Lunessa | ScytheBlade1: FANTASTIC. |
| 16:55.03 | nevcairiel | I'll have to switch to C then |
| 16:55.05 | cog|work | D: annoying but livable |
| 16:55.13 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work: curious: why annoying? |
| 16:55.21 | Lunessa | But of course, everyone will just pester mages and warlocks like they do for Shattrath now. |
| 16:55.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: *twitch* |
| 16:55.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: NOOOOOOOOU DIIIIIIIIIIE |
| 16:55.44 | cog|work | ScytheBlade1: actually, that was my opinion before they finished implementing the profession trainers |
| 16:56.01 | nevcairiel | they should allow people to get in if they manage to get there wihtout dying =P |
| 16:56.03 | cog|work | I'll go with "Meh" now |
| 16:56.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Fair enough |
| 16:56.10 | Lunessa | ScytheBlade1: You go to hell and you die! (you need a macro /r You go to hell and you die! ) |
| 16:56.16 | ScytheBlade1 | I so totally do. |
| 16:57.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, I was just curious. The professions was quite possibly the only legit thing as to lower/remove the 'restriction' and if that's gone then the whiners can contiue crying |
| 16:57.38 | Neuro_Medivh | I thought there were trainers for everything in BT? |
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| 16:59.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm also pretty sure I'm about to be stabbed |
| 16:59.15 | Lunessa | Mostly. BT or HF. |
| 16:59.17 | cog|work | they didn't work before |
| 16:59.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Every time I see "BT" I think "Black Temple"... |
| 17:00.07 | ScytheBlade1 | I was *seriously* confused for a moment there.. |
| 17:00.10 | nevcairiel | I just call it tundra now |
| 17:00.13 | Lunessa | Someone upload about 2 tons of anti-flu meds plx? |
| 17:01.08 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work: I've gotta add, you've really perfected "stupid talk" |
| 17:01.41 | Lunessa | my brain hurts. |
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| 17:05.21 | Amarande | so some professions actually have a level 74 effective requirement for grand mastery rather than 65 (I'm assuming it's 65 based on how the others are)? |
| 17:07.21 | Lunessa | 101 fever and congestion sore throat sucks. |
| 17:07.49 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work: although to be honest, when I first read your thread title I thought it was about the Rawr! theorycrafting project. |
| 17:08.01 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa love, tell me you're home and didn't drive to work? |
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| 17:10.35 | cog|work | RAWR |
| 17:10.41 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 17:10.47 | Lopeppeppy | RAWR! |
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| 17:10.58 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Iriel-saur. |
| 17:12.50 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: I called in sick, and if the fever doesn't go down soon, I'll go to the emergency room at UTMB hospital next door. |
| 17:12.54 | ScytheBlade1 | "next door" is win |
| 17:13.27 | Lunessa | I literally live 2 blocks from the hospital |
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| 17:14.14 | Dashkal | ~comfort Lunessa |
| 17:14.14 | purl | There, there, Lunessa. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 17:14.17 | Dashkal | not fun |
| 17:14.32 | Paratus | Any good addon developers here want to help me fix a bug in an addon? It's a very simple one.. all it has to do is get the guild bank log and save it to a variable. I'm willing to pay for some help with it. :) |
| 17:15.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Paratus: you'd probably get more help if you pastey your code and describe the problem, than offering pay. As evidenced by your lack of code, lack of an answer, and fact that you were asking the same question last night. |
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| 17:15.32 | Aznamir | Hi all |
| 17:15.53 | Paratus | I asked one time last night, so assumed there'd be mostly different people in here now. :) |
| 17:16.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Probably not, truth be told. |
| 17:16.31 | Maldivia | most here are on 24/7 |
| 17:16.40 | Aznamir | Does anyone know, is where a way to tell what kind of pet do I have in a raid? |
| 17:16.40 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 17:16.45 | cog|work | or at least 18/7 |
| 17:16.46 | Aznamir | like pet class or something |
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| 17:16.58 | cog|work | UnitCreatureType? |
| 17:16.59 | Neuro_Medivh | Aznamir, how do you wish to apply it? |
| 17:17.06 | nevcairiel | my client is in here 24/7 .. but i only read backlog when highlighted =P |
| 17:17.10 | cog|work | ~api UnitCreatureType |
| 17:17.11 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitCreatureType |
| 17:17.11 | Jelly-School | ~hug Peppy |
| 17:17.12 | purl | ACTION hugs Peppy tightly until Peppy turns slightly blue |
| 17:17.24 | Jelly-School | BLUE PEPPY! |
| 17:17.40 | cog|work | ~api unitcreaturefamily |
| 17:17.41 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_unitcreaturefamily |
| 17:17.50 | ScytheBlade1 | ~fail cog|work |
| 17:17.51 | purl | cog|work, you Fail! |
| 17:18.00 | Aznamir | Um.. I need something more specific.. like tell whether pet is felhunter, felguard, imp, succubus or hunter pet |
| 17:18.14 | cog|work | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitCreatureFamily |
| 17:18.21 | ScytheBlade1 | ~win cog|work |
| 17:18.22 | purl | Congratulations, cog|work! You have won a one way ticket to baghdad! |
| 17:18.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Eh. I tried. |
| 17:18.41 | cog|work | had the name right the second time but didn't realize purl was idjit |
| 17:18.51 | Paratus | I was hoping someone with more experience with the addon API would be willing to just finish it up.. should be like 15 minutes work for someone who knows it well.. for ~ $50.. :) |
| 17:19.10 | Aznamir | who said money? ;) |
| 17:19.21 | Neuro_Medivh | Az, how are you using this information? |
| 17:19.28 | Aznamir | okay, UnitCreatureFamily may work for me |
| 17:19.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Paratus: well, just the same, keep in mind that even given the offer of money you may not get /too/ far with a request like that. |
| 17:19.48 | Aznamir | I need that to classify pet for tanking or casting blessings |
| 17:20.05 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work: we have someone who wants a fish, without fishing 375/375! SIC EM'! |
| 17:20.05 | alestane | cog|work: The forum doesn't like "grapes". |
| 17:20.15 | cog|work | i noticed :| |
| 17:20.25 | NightHawkAtWork | I don't like grapes either. wine, though, is fabulous. |
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| 17:20.33 | cog|work | web team needs to l2regex |
| 17:20.36 | Paratus | seedless red grapes ftw! |
| 17:20.36 | Neuro_Medivh | Aznamir, you don't want to use a macro for it? |
| 17:21.00 | NightHawkAtWork | cog|work: http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/My-str_replace()-Can-Beat-Up-Your-str_replace().aspx |
| 17:21.09 | ScytheBlade1 | haha yes |
| 17:21.12 | Aznamir | that's for PallyPower |
| 17:21.14 | ScytheBlade1 | That TDWTF is awesome |
| 17:22.50 | Jelly-School | ~hug Peppy |
| 17:22.50 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Peppy |
| 17:22.57 | Jelly-School | there we go |
| 17:22.59 | cog|work | alestane: see edit ;) |
| 17:23.12 | Lopeppeppy | Tackle hugs are the best. |
| 17:27.22 | alestane | Does $string = substr($string,1); mean the same thing in (I presume) Perl that it would in Lua (minus the $s)? |
| 17:28.06 | NightHawkAtWork | http://seattlest.com/2008/09/08/who_steals_an_ambulance.php |
| 17:28.46 | NightHawkAtWork | alestane: a) google it and find out. b) probably. |
| 17:28.51 | Duman | alestane: in perl that would return "ne" if $string were "one" |
| 17:28.53 | Maldivia | alestane: in perl: substr("hello", 1) = "ello" |
| 17:29.04 | alestane | So it's 0-based, not 1-based. |
| 17:29.07 | Duman | yes |
| 17:29.29 | NightHawkAtWork | er, yeah, perl uses 0-based arrays, like most languages |
| 17:29.39 | Duman | if you have access to a unix box (or somewhere perl is installed): perldoc -f substr |
| 17:29.54 | NightHawkAtWork | or, seriously, google "perl substr" :p |
| 17:29.58 | Maldivia | http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/substr.html |
| 17:29.58 | alestane | And is . (dot) their concat operator? |
| 17:29.59 | Duman | or that :) |
| 17:30.14 | NightHawkAtWork | alestane: GOOGLE! |
| 17:30.40 | Duman | yes |
| 17:31.06 | alestane | I'm also looking in that f-ing docsite I was just linked. But is it significantly faster to tell me to look it up myself, than to tell me the answer or say you don't know? |
| 17:31.12 | Duman | $ab = $a . $b; |
| 17:32.52 | NightHawkAtWork | alestane: no, its much slower in the short term, but hopefully you'll figure out eventually that trivial syntax questions are easily answered by a short web query and stop wasting our time. :D |
| 17:33.06 | cog|work | ~lart NightHawkAtWork |
| 17:33.06 | purl | chops NightHawkAtWork in half with a free AOL CD |
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| 17:33.32 | cog|work | if this were a forum where response times were measured in minutes, you'd have a point :P |
| 17:33.39 | zenzelezz | you know how we treat the people asking trivial lua questions in here |
| 17:34.03 | cog|work | zenzelezz: imo that's different, because this is a lua-related venue |
| 17:34.24 | cog|work | no one here should be expected to know purl |
| 17:34.44 | zenzelezz | I meant the fact that most of those people are told to go read the lua manual |
| 17:34.45 | Jelly-School | Oh man. "We're" ragging on noobs? /hides |
| 17:34.47 | alestane | If I actually wanted to learn Perl, I'd spend time reading docs. But I'm just trying to see if I understand this bit of code correctly. |
| 17:35.13 | Duman | alestane: I'm actually going the other way... perl -> lua... and most of it is pretty straightforward :) |
| 17:35.34 | Duman | so you should be ok |
| 17:35.41 | Duman | I mean, you should be able to grok perl pretty easily |
| 17:35.53 | NightHawkAtWork | cog|work: eh, that's a pretty silly distinction "oh, this is #lua, so we'll tell you to read PIL, but since it's not #perl, we'll rifle through perldoc for you..." |
| 17:36.10 | cog|work | NightHawkAtWork: who said anything about rifling through perldoc? |
| 17:36.21 | cog|work | basic syntax questions are trivial to answer |
| 17:36.35 | alestane | This is IRC...if you don't want to answer my question, don't. If I go long enough without getting an answer from anyone, I'll resort to looking it up. If someone knows the answer off the top of their head, maybe they'll save me some time. |
| 17:36.41 | NightHawkAtWork | and trivial to google |
| 17:36.55 | cog|work | less trivial to google... you have to know the right terms. |
| 17:37.16 | cog|work | different programming languages often use different terms for the same things |
| 17:37.18 | NightHawkAtWork | "perl concat"? or "perl substr"? (to use recent examples) |
| 17:37.28 | Jelly-School | Man. I miss not being in school and being able to be around for all of these conversations. |
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| 17:38.11 | cog|work | NightHawkAtWork: as alestane said, he wasn't asking so he could learn perl. He was asking so he could understand something someone else brought up in conversation. There's a big difference... |
| 17:39.33 | cog|work | it's like, if I mentioned the uncertainty principle in passing, you asked what it was, and I told you to go read a Quantum Mechanics textbook |
| 17:40.09 | NightHawkAtWork | well, except that if i wanted to know what it was, i would probably google it. |
| 17:40.13 | cog|work | instead of giving a simplistic explanation like "it basically means you can't know a particle's momentum and position at the same time" |
| 17:40.53 | cog|work | if you don't need a deep understanding, you don't need a deep explanation |
| 17:41.08 | cog|work | and context can simplify the explanation even further |
| 17:41.22 | Lunessa | Hey, I prefer the Heineken Uncertainty Principle. "On the morning after, you can never really be certain how many beers you had last night." |
| 17:41.24 | Jelly-School | So essentially, you're arguing over the fact that NightHawtAtWork ~= Alestane? |
| 17:41.25 | cog|work | since you only have to explain as much as is necessary to give a general understanding |
| 17:41.55 | Jelly-School | s/NightHawtAtWork/NightHawkAtWork/ |
| 17:42.10 | NightHawkAtWork | cog|work: I'm still of the idea that in nearly every case "look it up" is always the best first action if you don't know something. :) |
| 17:42.28 | cog|work | s/you/I/ imo |
| 17:42.47 | NightHawkAtWork | *shrug* generic "you", maybe s/you/someone/ :p |
| 17:43.04 | NightHawkAtWork | (with appropriate grammatical changes, but meh) |
| 17:44.08 | Lunessa | Humans are incapable of absorbing all available knowledge. Sometimes, you just have to let someone else show you. |
| 17:44.13 | alestane | Look at it this way... I didn't know something, so I consulted a trusted and available resource to find the answer. This resource happened to be active and aware rather than passive and static. |
| 17:44.28 | cog|work | a) spend 10 minutes googling for a topic, reading through it to find one single tidbit of information; b) ask a specific, direct, concise, yes or no question that would take less than 1 second to respond to... |
| 17:44.29 | zenzelezz | we need to learn from the Kiint |
| 17:44.47 | Amarande | All knowledge is worth having -- Anafiel Delaunay |
| 17:45.17 | cog|work | if you value the deeper knowledge, then a is your choice. If you just want to know something applicable to the current situation and couldn't care less about the rest of it, then b. |
| 17:45.20 | NightHawkAtWork | cog|work: except for nearly every basic syntax question, googling to find the answer is going to be about as fast as the time to ask and get a response. |
| 17:45.35 | cog|work | NightHawkAtWork: on forums, yes. not really in irc |
| 17:46.08 | NightHawkAtWork | cog|work: eh, irc can be slow, and i've seen forums be -very- responsive, so that doesn't always hold up. |
| 17:46.08 | cog|work | especially when it's a yes or no question about something which people currently active in the conversation know the answer. |
| 17:46.38 | cog|work | who said anything about always? |
| 17:46.42 | cog|work | you're arguing edge cases... |
| 17:46.57 | cog|work | the situation as it was when alestane asked his question wasn't like that |
| 17:47.17 | cog|work | if he had just popped in here on a whim and asked, then yes. I'd be right there with you |
| 17:47.23 | alestane | Amarande: J.Carey quotes in IRC tech channels == win. |
| 17:47.52 | alestane | And I think I see a Peter Hamilton reference up there right above it. |
| 17:47.53 | Lunessa | ~lart the channel |
| 17:47.53 | purl | farts in the channel's general direction |
| 17:48.09 | NightHawkAtWork | cog|work: *shrug* i'll grand that the specifics of this situation may lend more credence to just asking.. but that's easily as much of an edge case as anything else. |
| 17:48.42 | cog|work | yes, but it is what the situation was, which was all I was talking about when this whole thing started... |
| 17:48.58 | alestane | Except that that quote s actually Shemhazai's message to his descendants. |
| 17:49.05 | NightHawkAtWork | cog|work: I really think you're underestimating how easy it is to find basic syntax info on a language, though. In as much time as it took people to answer, in this situation, i easily googled it and got an answer |
| 17:54.11 | Jelly-School | So guys ... how about that local sports team? |
| 17:54.22 | zenzelezz | google it, noob |
| 17:54.29 | smcn | bam |
| 17:54.41 | NightHawkAtWork | I'm kinda split, actually. the seahawks lost... but they lost to buffalo.. which i like.. >.> |
| 17:55.16 | Amarande | alestane, speaking of odd Carey references, did I ever happen to mention which character I got when I took the "Which Kushiel character are you" test a while back? :) |
| 17:55.18 | Jelly-School | Google :: "Local sports team" (i'm feeling lucky) http://everything2.com/e2node/How%2520about%2520that%2520local%2520sports%2520team%253F |
| 17:55.34 | alestane | I don't think I was around for that. |
| 17:55.41 | Amarande | "You are Melisande Shahrizai" ... LOL |
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| 17:56.45 | kd3 | eesh |
| 17:56.52 | kd3 | I need to get her newest book |
| 17:57.04 | alestane | And is your name also intended? I notice it's one consonant off. |
| 17:57.14 | alestane | kd3: "Mercy" was incredible. |
| 18:00.25 | Amarande | alestane, I've been using Amarande long before I discovered the series :) |
| 18:00.45 | Amarande | I think I've been using this nick since even before the series was first written ... had it since 1999-2000 or so |
| 18:00.50 | Jelly-School | Welcome back, Lunessa! |
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| 18:04.17 | Lunessa | Beta is up. |
| 18:04.33 | Jelly-School | Teach me the ways of getting around my school and I'll play. lol |
| 18:04.44 | Lunessa | School > WoW |
| 18:04.47 | Amarande | arrrggghhhhhhh |
| 18:04.49 | Amarande | error 132 |
| 18:05.05 | Jelly-School | I'm at lunch. None of my professors will allow laptops out in class. |
| 18:05.15 | cog|work | education > wow > school |
| 18:05.18 | Jelly-School | So WoW > Wasting another hour sitting here, doing nothing |
| 18:05.41 | Lopeppeppy | Womens totally aren't worth it. I even agree. |
| 18:05.51 | Jelly-School | This asian kid is ROCKING THE SHIT out of this piano though. |
| 18:05.59 | wereHamster | cog|work: how can education > school? |
| 18:06.14 | cog|work | school was the worst educational experience of my life |
| 18:06.17 | Jelly-School | Cause education ~= school. |
| 18:07.07 | Lunessa | Mounting in cities is broken again. |
| 18:07.12 | Jelly-School | I might be stupid (go ahead, I know I left it wide open) but most teachers don't teach in a manner that I understand (and ... remember) so half the stuff that I'm "taught" I have to go back and relearn on my own in my own, special (retarded) ways. |
| 18:07.55 | Dashkal | Agreed. I'm now self-teaching myself calculus so I can understand it. Unlike the class I was forced to take |
| 18:08.00 | cog|work | school was merely an obstacle keeping me from the rest of my life |
| 18:08.09 | Tekkub | school *should* be about teaching you how to learn on your own |
| 18:08.20 | Tekkub | cog, same here |
| 18:08.24 | Lunessa | And damn it, all the video settings keep getting set to "low" |
| 18:08.26 | Dashkal | School is about getting a piece of paper which gets you a job. Learning is something you do on your own |
| 18:08.33 | cog|work | only good thing I got out of school was my wife ;) |
| 18:08.37 | Tekkub | I got out of HS a year early... and college just proved to be a money hole |
| 18:08.37 | Jelly-School | Then I guess I'm doing alright then. |
| 18:08.57 | Dashkal | Lunessa: are you sure they're actually going low? Mine did that but the actual settings were still where they were (my terrain distance didn't shrink, even though the slider was on low) |
| 18:09.19 | cog|work | Tekkub: same here |
| 18:09.21 | Lunessa | I couldn't see from the bank to the stair of the Crystal Hall in Exodar. |
| 18:09.31 | Jelly-School | Tekkub: I've already decided that college is paying more for the piece of paper, rather than actually learning. |
| 18:09.33 | Dashkal | yech, that's for real then |
| 18:09.44 | cog|work | though it wasn't actually a year early because they put me through "pre-first" since i was born in november |
| 18:09.45 | Lunessa | However, my new shaman spells are in bitches! |
| 18:10.16 | Tekkub | yes, I had too... it was just that I realized in the programming world, that paper wasn't the "requirement" it is in other professions |
| 18:10.22 | Jelly-School | I graduated "on time" at 17 with my class of 18 and 19 year olds. *shrug* |
| 18:10.31 | clad|away | Jelly-School: You get what you make out of school |
| 18:10.33 | clad|away | that's a fact |
| 18:10.54 | clad|away | if you don't take it beyond the bullshit class work, then you're paying for a piece of paper |
| 18:11.13 | clad|away | same goes for paying oodles of money to go to a big school, versus spending your money wisely and utilizing your resources |
| 18:11.27 | cog|work | the problems come when the bullshit class work is required to get at the non-bullshit |
| 18:11.41 | clad|away | You can have problems all you want, don't go. |
| 18:11.44 | clad|away | but don't devalue it for us |
| 18:11.50 | clad|away | that do decide to go, and enjoy it, and get a lot out of it |
| 18:12.01 | Jelly-School | Theoretically speaking, if you do anything with that piece of paper, aren't you doing just that though? I see it kind of like Cog did in that school is just an obstacle I have to overcome in order to get on with the rest of my (better) life. |
| 18:12.02 | cog|work | don't mean to disparage those for whom it works... |
| 18:12.22 | clad|away | cog|work: I happen to take offense to the statement that "college is more about paying for a piece of paper" |
| 18:12.36 | Lunessa | I went to college at 15. It was ... different. |
| 18:12.37 | clad|away | and could easily apply it to a number of different situations and context that make it seem absurd |
| 18:12.53 | clad|away | but I'm off to some ridiculous fair that they shut down the main street for |
| 18:12.55 | Tekkub | clad... but it is! I *loved* learning shit... I wanted to be in school for as long as I could.... |
| 18:12.59 | clad|away | cuz.. chavs and carnival rides are fun |
| 18:13.02 | Tekkub | but... |
| 18:15.46 | Amarande | hmm |
| 18:15.49 | Amarande | not only do I get error 132 |
| 18:15.54 | cog|work | I'll just leave it at: everyone in the education industry tries to make the system one-size fits all. It fails miserably on many levels except for those who either have the stubbornness (sp?) to stick through it, or who actually learn in the way they prescribe. |
| 18:15.56 | Amarande | but also, when I was in Orgrimmar, everything looked all strange |
| 18:16.14 | Amarande | like outside was all red, inside was all black, objects like the guild vault object were all red ... |
| 18:16.14 | cog|work | everyone else is sol |
| 18:16.19 | Amarande | any idea? |
| 18:16.32 | foxlit | You may need to limit "education industry" to something more local |
| 18:16.50 | clad|away | cog|work: "everyone in the education industry" |
| 18:16.53 | Tekkub | when I was in mech last night the "rings" around the elevator entrance were missing some textures |
| 18:17.03 | clad|away | for someone who wants to be a lawyer, needs to make less absurdly ridiculous statements |
| 18:17.06 | Tekkub | also, 2-manned normal mech with a DK and a druids |
| 18:17.08 | Amarande | clad: this is on live, not beta :S |
| 18:17.17 | Amarande | repair says my files are ok |
| 18:17.17 | clad|away | especially ones that come from an indefensible position |
| 18:17.20 | Tekkub | I bearly had to cast anything beyond a single Lifebloom |
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| 18:17.35 | cog|work | interpret it in whatever way makes the most sense to you :P |
| 18:17.50 | clad|away | cog|work: also, you should consider an undergraduate degree at Oxford |
| 18:17.59 | clad|away | saying that the tutorial system is one-size fits all is laughable |
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| 18:18.06 | clad|away | but I agree (IN GENERAL) with what you're saying :P |
| 18:18.10 | clad|away | just had to be a pain in the ass |
| 18:18.24 | Tekkub | clad, I know it's impossible for you to do, but just plug your ears and pretend you can't read us and let us bitch |
| 18:18.31 | Jelly-School | lol |
| 18:18.37 | Tekkub | so college works for you, good, now go study |
| 18:19.01 | cog|work | clad|away: fwiw, the law school I'm considering doesn't require any GE |
| 18:19.08 | cog|work | so SUCK IT! |
| 18:19.10 | cog|work | :P |
| 18:19.29 | Jelly-School | oh no |
| 18:19.29 | Amarande | the problem with college degrees is that knowledge learned outside of college ... well, sure, it's worth having of course :) but you can hardly make any use of it |
| 18:19.35 | foxlit | no General Electric? |
| 18:19.41 | Amarande | in practicality, it seems that you must be taught knowledge to be allowed to use it, not learned it yourself |
| 18:19.49 | cog|work | (mrs cog wouldn't appreciate it) |
| 18:19.54 | Amarande | perhaps this is why we've evolved generations that have an increasing difficulty of learning things themselves? |
| 18:20.09 | cncfanatics | Amarande: I've learned programming on my own :p |
| 18:20.30 | Amarande | cncfanatics, and would you be able to get a job based on said learning? no, they'd probably ask what "formal C courses have you taken" no? |
| 18:20.31 | cncfanatics | people still learn a lot of things on their own I think, they just don't come up for it anymore, kinda |
| 18:20.38 | cog|work | ~hug clad|away |
| 18:20.40 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs clad|away |
| 18:20.40 | foxlit | suggestion that "evolution" has anything to do with this is laughable :) |
| 18:20.53 | cncfanatics | Amarande: I've had a few small 1 month jobs involving programming if that counts |
| 18:20.54 | Amarande | fox: yeah, H. sapiens evolves too slowly for that to really be the case |
| 18:21.01 | Amarande | though perhaps over a few thousand years |
| 18:21.14 | cncfanatics | few millions :p |
| 18:21.19 | cncfanatics | a few thousand years is nothing for evolution |
| 18:22.06 | foxlit | Not that there aren't quicker feedback mechanisms. |
| 18:23.25 | cncfanatics | Amarande: as reponse to your precedent question, people tend to not mind if you learned things on your own if you can show them quality results, eg, show them code from your successful programming projects |
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| 18:30.02 | Jelly-School | So I walked to class, leaving my laptop open and now with 30 minutes left of my free time, you guys stop talking. :( |
| 18:31.04 | foxlit | Spam-refresh apple.com with me :) |
| 18:32.04 | NightHawkAtWork | mm.. is apple introducing something new today? |
| 18:33.02 | Kaso | * We will almost definitely see a new iPod nano and a new iPod touch. |
| 18:33.07 | foxlit | pods |
| 18:33.10 | Kaso | * iTunes 8.0 -- with a new visualizer and the ability to auto-generate playlists of related tunes (think Pandora Radio). |
| 18:33.16 | foxlit | "new" isn't quite it, but it's an update anyway |
| 18:33.17 | Kaso | Mid-strength rumors: |
| 18:33.17 | Kaso | * We will likely see a new iPod classic. |
| 18:33.17 | Kaso | * iPhone Software 2.1 may be announced. |
| 18:33.17 | Kaso | * HD TV Shows on iTunes Store |
| 18:33.32 | NightHawkAtWork | interesting. |
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| 18:33.56 | foxlit | Steve's done talking, too, so you need to find a newer news post |
| 18:34.03 | Amarande | * Most likely 8.0 will not work with Wine, I'm imagining. |
| 18:34.36 | Fisker- | so more apple shit? |
| 18:36.21 | NightHawkAtWork | ooh, 120gb ipod |
| 18:36.36 | Fisker- | ah |
| 18:36.45 | Fisker- | welcome to the last millenium NightHawkAtWork |
| 18:37.00 | foxlit | they removed a more expensive 160g model |
| 18:37.01 | NightHawkAtWork | Fisker-: what? go troll elsewhere. :p |
| 18:37.24 | foxlit | I'm sure Fisker- just can't find a suitable bridge. |
| 18:38.14 | Fisker- | I just like applauding previous gen technology |
| 18:38.41 | NightHawkAtWork | no, you like being an idiot, clearly :) |
| 18:39.03 | Fisker- | Be that as it may |
| 18:39.12 | Fisker- | atleast you have accepted the fact it's previous gen technology |
| 18:40.07 | malreth | hey... there's only enough room in this channel for three asses... and I'm currently logged in |
| 18:40.15 | foxlit | meh, I wonder which one I should actually get. |
| 18:40.17 | Fisker- | i was here first |
| 18:40.24 | NightHawkAtWork | does it matter, though? a) it's not as if portable mp3 players have had 120gb before, b) doesn't matter how old the technology is, if it works, and works well, it's always good. |
| 18:40.27 | foxlit | nano fits in pocket; I can code for Touch |
| 18:40.51 | Lunessa | I get new ranks of spells YAY! They don't do anything. Boo! |
| 18:41.09 | Fisker- | NightHawkAtWork actually they have |
| 18:41.14 | Fisker- | It's just that there are no market for them |
| 18:41.17 | Fisker- | So noone actually bothers |
| 18:41.41 | Fisker- | Of course every retard buys apple products so they don't have to make that decision |
| 18:42.04 | malreth | who's a retard? |
| 18:42.17 | NightHawkAtWork | malreth: Fisker-, but that's a given. ;) |
| 18:42.44 | Jelly-School | :-\ |
| 18:42.51 | malreth | the correct way to phrase that remark is "there are retards out there that will buy every apple product..." |
| 18:43.26 | Industrial | malreth: like ram |
| 18:43.27 | Industrial | :D |
| 18:43.36 | Jelly-School | What is this blasphemy? Malreth being PC? |
| 18:43.40 | NightHawkAtWork | malreth: thats certainly far more accurate. :p |
| 18:43.54 | malreth | Industrial: we like to call it a "convenience fee" |
| 18:44.08 | Lopeppeppy | malreth, don't confuse me by being nice. |
| 18:44.16 | Fisker- | Well i could rephrase it and say that every use of an apple product is retarded >:3 |
| 18:44.16 | malreth | also, apple ram comes with a free blowjob |
| 18:44.27 | NightHawkAtWork | ^^ truth. it was good, too. |
| 18:44.28 | Industrial | I dont like how my macbook has no home /end keys etc and covers for it with key combos that I can't seem to find the docs of (like, all keycombos in use by osx). |
| 18:44.29 | Fisker- | Tech specs on that "oh so new gen ipod"? |
| 18:44.47 | foxlit | grr, quicktime |
| 18:44.52 | foxlit | How you hate my mousecroll |
| 18:44.56 | malreth | Industrial: ^-a ^-e ftw |
| 18:45.04 | Industrial | wuzzat |
| 18:45.19 | malreth | cocoa text fields use emacs bindigns |
| 18:45.24 | malreth | bindings |
| 18:45.46 | Industrial | noooo |
| 18:46.34 | malreth | i don't remember when i figured that out |
| 18:46.47 | malreth | i just started using them one day and was delighted that they worked |
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| 18:47.17 | malreth | doesn't work in carbon apps, tho, i think |
| 18:47.19 | NightHawkAtWork | yeah, thats one of the reasons i keep telling myself i need to learn emacs |
| 18:47.37 | Kaso | http://img.waffleimages.com/752f1a17826d0b0e32e3496cc39de9be2e2cf689/233313-ipod_nano_4g_spy1_400.jpg |
| 18:47.40 | Kaso | mmm roundy |
| 18:47.49 | Thunder_Child | "Hewlett-Packard Co., the worldâs largest personal-computer maker, introduced a notebook PC that can run for as long as 24 hours on a single battery charge." i call BS |
| 18:47.54 | Industrial | hm I really should get a vim button. |
| 18:47.54 | foxlit | Hm, I wonder |
| 18:48.04 | foxlit | Fn-Left should theoretically be "Home" |
| 18:48.12 | Lopeppeppy | Thunder_Child, it can "run", but can it "operate" or "be used" ? |
| 18:48.26 | foxlit | But Colloquy interprets it as "scroll my IRC log to top" |
| 18:48.40 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy, it prolly goes down to 5 min when used >.< |
| 18:48.49 | malreth | foxlit: yes, but it's an |
| 18:48.52 | malreth | it's an |
| 18:48.53 | Industrial | foxlit: where is this documented |
| 18:48.57 | malreth | GOD DAMN IT!!! |
| 18:49.02 | foxlit | Like, on my keyboard |
| 18:49.09 | foxlit | The left arrow has "home" written on it :) |
| 18:49.16 | Industrial | oh, mines just an arrow:p |
| 18:49.20 | malreth | foxlit: the newer keyboards don't have the shortcuts labeled on them |
| 18:49.27 | foxlit | malreth: laptops probably do |
| 18:49.30 | malreth | my new MBP doesn't have them |
| 18:49.40 | malreth | Industrial's MB doesn't |
| 18:49.42 | foxlit | filurebook :) |
| 18:50.03 | Industrial | i'd rather have them... |
| 18:50.09 | Industrial | if i could choose |
| 18:50.22 | Industrial | but i guess it was daunting to the retard users? |
| 18:50.29 | malreth | anyways... but those are the "apple" home and end |
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| 18:50.39 | Industrial | "ho noes extra text thingies whats this button do OH IT CRASHED MY PC better call apple" |
| 18:50.52 | foxlit | Actually, yes, you're right |
| 18:50.54 | malreth | so they go to the home and end of the document.. not to the start and end of the line |
| 18:51.03 | foxlit | Apple-left is interpreted by the textbox. |
| 18:51.19 | malreth | one of those little differences that take getting used to |
| 18:51.22 | Lunessa | I'm in ur beta gettin' asked to hael. |
| 18:51.31 | Industrial | haha |
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| 18:52.06 | kd3 | gah. I'm brain-dead. what's the term for "speaking down to someone, like they're a child"? |
| 18:52.15 | malreth | condescending |
| 18:52.21 | Industrial | http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1343 |
| 18:52.24 | Neuro_Medivh | patronizing |
| 18:52.29 | Industrial | shortcuts docs page |
| 18:52.33 | kd3 | patronizing, that's what I was looking for. thanks |
| 18:52.36 | Lunessa | Either/or works. |
| 18:53.08 | malreth | Lunessa: don't just say things to make me feel better... whatever that's called. |
| 18:53.24 | Lunessa | lying? |
| 18:54.00 | foxlit | ctrl-alt-apple-8 |
| 18:54.02 | foxlit | awesome! |
| 18:54.14 | Lunessa | Oh, and if Ike causes evac, I'm headed to Austin. |
| 18:54.37 | Amarande | Customer service greeting: "Good evening, how may I patronize and annoy you today?" |
| 18:55.11 | malreth | when is ike supposed to hit? |
| 18:55.46 | Jelly-School | Lunessa: Come drink with me imo. |
| 18:55.59 | Lunessa | Not sure. I'm in the projected path though. I'll know something more tomorrow. |
| 18:56.00 | malreth | i'm busy this weekend tho |
| 18:56.09 | malreth | Lunessa: oh yeah... |
| 18:56.37 | Lunessa | like right in it. |
| 18:56.49 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa and malreth, battern down the hatches and stuff, so I won't worry too much. |
| 18:57.01 | Lopeppeppy | 'specially you with the flu, Lunessa. |
| 18:57.02 | malreth | Lopeppeppy: i'm safe |
| 18:57.09 | Lunessa | Malreth is far enough inland that I'll go hide out near him. |
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| 18:57.23 | Jelly-School | Lunessa: Come buy me that beer, you asshole. |
| 18:57.36 | malreth | Austin has hills that shelter us like something... hill-like |
| 18:57.36 | Lunessa | Haha... Maybe. |
| 18:57.48 | Lunessa | Malreth has pretty friends. |
| 18:57.51 | malreth | we're also immune to tornadoes |
| 18:58.05 | malreth | Lunessa: i'll let them know you think so |
| 18:58.06 | Jelly-School | Fort Worth has ... lots of stupid. There's plenty of stupid to kek at, Lunessa. Think about it. |
| 18:58.17 | Lunessa | Heh. |
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| 18:59.45 | Jelly-School | What /is/ your beer of choice anyway? |
| 18:59.59 | malreth | hey... yeah? |
| 19:01.13 | Lunessa | I'm not really a beer fan. It's pretty much all yak piss, so any kind will do. |
| 19:01.20 | malreth | :( |
| 19:01.25 | Jelly-School | :( |
| 19:01.29 | cog|work | :O |
| 19:01.31 | malreth | my current favorite is Fireman's 4 |
| 19:01.36 | Jelly-School | o.O |
| 19:01.38 | Industrial | malreth: apparently fn-shift-up/downarrows is page up and page down on my macbook |
| 19:01.38 | Tekkub | peanut butter filled pretzels FTFW |
| 19:01.50 | Lunessa | Though the heffawisen (spelling) style is better than others. |
| 19:01.55 | Neuro_Medivh | Lunessa, last projections have Ike heading to Corpus |
| 19:02.04 | malreth | Industrial: yes. they are |
| 19:02.14 | Jelly-School | Lunessa: You and my roomie would get along. She's all about that ... |
| 19:02.17 | Syzgyn | Lunesssa: What about ciders? |
| 19:02.20 | Industrial | much missed keys :P |
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| 19:02.40 | Amarande | hmm, this is weird |
| 19:02.44 | Amarande | my minimap is working sort of odd on Wine |
| 19:02.48 | Jelly-School | I, myself don't know a whole lot about beer. :( |
| 19:02.50 | Lunessa | Neuro_Medivh: Yeah, but I'm still in the path. And conditions can change. Which is why I'm more or less packed. |
| 19:02.54 | Neuro_Medivh | malreth: Austin has too many hippies for me... plus, the freeways are ALWAYS being rebuilt |
| 19:02.54 | Amarande | Quest markers and me show up, but if I'm in Orgrimmar, it's blank white. |
| 19:02.56 | malreth | Industrial: Cmd-up and down arrows usually scroll to the top and bottom of a window in most apps |
| 19:02.58 | Industrial | Amarande: wine does tiat :P |
| 19:03.01 | Lunessa | Cider rules. |
| 19:03.02 | Industrial | that* |
| 19:03.09 | Amarande | If I hearth to Shattrath, it's blank white again, then I go outside of the Scryers inn and it's ok, then if I go back inside it's blank white |
| 19:03.44 | malreth | Neuro_Medivh: the hippies give austin it's character and charm. our freeways, i'll agree, are complete shit |
| 19:03.49 | Amarande | then if I go inside A'dal's building it's blank white again |
| 19:03.52 | Lunessa | Though I suppose if I'm going to drink beer, Pale Moon with orange slices is pretty good. |
| 19:03.53 | Amarande | it doesn't seem to like indoors |
| 19:04.31 | Amarande | that's a Wine bug? |
| 19:04.39 | Neuro_Medivh | well, Austin at least has 6th street and SxSW |
| 19:04.53 | Neuro_Medivh | 6th st >>> Bourbon St |
| 19:05.08 | Lunessa | And Austin is home to about 20 people who are USUALLY glad to see me. |
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| 19:15.23 | Lunessa | Remember Lunessa: Loot, Pillage, THEN Burn. |
| 19:17.51 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, Pillage and Loot is functionally the same |
| 19:18.44 | Lunessa | The original joke contains a word I wouldn't use in this context. |
| 19:18.48 | Syzgyn | Heh |
| 19:20.03 | Tekkub | grape? |
| 19:20.47 | Lunessa | Tekkub: close enough. |
| 19:21.35 | Syzgyn | Eat grapes, Pillage, and Burn! |
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| 19:23.32 | smcn | eat grapes, pick drapes, and rapell down a cliff |
| 19:23.37 | Lunessa | Anyone seen the movie "Erik the Viking"? |
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| 19:31.56 | Duman | hmm |
| 19:33.19 | Fisker- | if a Fisker visited your channel, leave |
| 19:33.23 | alestane | Lunessa: I have seen that movie. I have also read the amazing but much less comical book on which it is very loosely based. |
| 19:33.25 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 19:34.15 | Fisker- | you are my mortal enemy |
| 19:34.16 | Duman | man wtf... I think I'm getting sick, too |
| 19:34.24 | Duman | throat was hurting yesterday... and today |
| 19:34.50 | Fisker- | that's due to oral sex |
| 19:35.39 | Lopeppeppy | Only if you do it right. |
| 19:35.57 | Duman | lol |
| 19:36.55 | Duman | neck cramps are different from a sore throat... |
| 19:37.40 | Thrae | Wow...Amazon.com is going the full 9 yards by trying to rip-off fans of Fallout 3 with their version, "The Survival Edition". For only $40 more, you get...a life-size version of the "Pipboy 3000", which is just a clock. But the picture shows all the stuff that comes with the Collector's Edition as if the Survival Edition adds it in. |
| 19:40.38 | Syzgyn | Hey Duman |
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| 19:40.50 | malreth | LOPEPPEPPY! |
| 19:40.53 | Syzgyn | I got a 4300 Heroic Throw crit yesterday :) |
| 19:41.08 | Lopeppeppy | What, malreth? |
| 19:41.11 | malreth | bad girl |
| 19:42.30 | malreth | also, i think your full name should be Lopeppeppy P. Peppy |
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| 19:44.58 | Lopeppeppy | Lopeppeppy Sprocket Erth'algos is my full name. |
| 19:45.43 | cog|work | /duel |
| 19:46.24 | malreth | Your momma couldn't tell a spanner from a vice grip. |
| 19:46.53 | alestane | Heh http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9336800829&sid=1&pageNo=2#33 |
| 19:47.19 | cog|work | hehe |
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| 19:48.14 | malreth | that is an EPIC recipe, cog |
| 19:50.35 | Lunessa | That recipe cause /you/ to drop loot. |
| 19:51.02 | Lopeppeppy | .... no pun intended? |
| 19:51.17 | malreth | i poop purples |
| 19:51.38 | NeoTron | like the quest in grizzly hills |
| 19:51.53 | NeoTron | talk about dropping some massive loot, the whole area was shaking |
| 19:54.45 | smcn | speaking of which, afk dropping some massive loot |
| 19:59.10 | cog|work | came up with it on a whim the other day... we have an awesome mexican restaurant near our house and my wife had been craving their breakfast burritos for a while. decided to take a whack at reproducing it. |
| 19:59.41 | cog|work | and chopping the potatoes was a good excuse to play with my new knife ;) |
| 20:01.55 | malreth | aooh... new knife? |
| 20:02.01 | Fisker- | i'm going to kill google |
| 20:02.15 | Thunder_Child | thats cool, google maps now has directions for walking |
| 20:02.53 | cog|work | malreth: http://www.kershawknives.com/productdetails.php?id=255 |
| 20:04.17 | Dashkal | demo locks: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/9/9679890957-metamorphosis-feedback.html |
| 20:04.31 | malreth | i own the HD-5 Santoku on this page http://www.japanesechefsknife.com/HDSeries.html |
| 20:05.25 | cog|work | perdy :) |
| 20:06.27 | Thunder_Child | hm.the reflection on thoes images does not sem to match the knife |
| 20:07.46 | cog|work | mine at home: http://cogwheel.info/upload/files/knife_color.jpg (sacrificed perspective for color in that shot) |
| 20:09.24 | cog|work | Thunder_Child: it's because of the thickness of the handle imo. |
| 20:09.38 | cog|work | and the angle of the dangle |
| 20:09.58 | Lopeppeppy | .... |
| 20:10.12 | cog|work | ;) |
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| 20:31.21 | smcn | http://www.worldofraids.com/forums/showpost.php?p=85623&postcount=5 lol^ |
| 20:32.06 | alestane | Is this a keylogger post, or some kind of strange performance art? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9679911686&sid=1 |
| 20:32.31 | jonathan|work | can it be both? |
| 20:32.54 | alestane | I suppose that's a possibility. |
| 20:33.35 | ScytheBlade1 | alestane: keylogger |
| 20:34.19 | ScytheBlade1 | alestane: google "I am the ret" and the first result was the original post that spawned that keylogger |
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| 20:49.20 | alestane | Can't say I'm surprised...it had that feel about it. |
| 20:49.50 | cbreak | what? |
| 20:52.42 | Esine | I'm looking for an interface designer for my upcoming addon. You don't need to be able to code the actual UI, but you should be able to produce images of the interface design. However if you are familiar with WoW UI programming (using AceGUI3, or just plain xml/lua) and can implement the UI for the addon (with my help on integrating it with the backend of course) then that's a plus. This is an open source project with no pay, but you will be credited for the |
| 20:52.42 | Esine | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:53.35 | Esine | hmh, it's difficult to announce this on IRC without using too much space but also providing some information of what the project is actually about |
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| 20:55.58 | [dRaCo] | which you didn't yet, by the way |
| 20:56.27 | Cairenn | http://wowuidev.pastey.net <== pastey all the details, then just link it |
| 20:56.31 | Cairenn | easy breezy |
| 20:57.03 | Esine | well, this is what I was originally supposed to say in this channel but it got a little too big. http://tohveli.net/announce.txt |
| 20:57.21 | cbreak | txt web page! good old times. |
| 20:58.40 | Shirik | the future |
| 20:59.16 | [dRaCo] | hey, if this is the future, where's my jetpack? |
| 20:59.18 | Esine | .. what I didn't mention in that blurb is that I have an older version of this addon up and running right now (I coded it 6 months ago or so), but the new version already has more features than the old one, it's just missing an UI. |
| 20:59.28 | Shirik | Esine: I should point out that on IRC, /w is not "PM" in many clients |
| 20:59.33 | Esine | and the old version actually has a (terrible) UI :P |
| 21:00.58 | Esine | I don't fully get what you're trying to say there. Do you consider what I wrote spamming the channel? I've been on IRC since 2000 or so, so yes, I should know that :) |
| 21:01.14 | Esine | I'll shut up then |
| 21:02.19 | Cairenn | Esine: he's referring to this line: (4:52:43 PM) Esine: interface. /w me for details |
| 21:02.26 | Esine | oh haha |
| 21:02.34 | Cairenn | all he's saying is that /w won't necessarily work :p |
| 21:02.35 | Esine | sorry, too much WoW |
| 21:04.40 | Esine | do you know if there's any forums I should post about this in? I know there's wow-europe.com Interface forums, wowinterface.com and WoWAce but they all seem to be littered with newbish end users with not many real developers around |
| 21:05.12 | Cairenn | you obviously didn't look very hard on WoWI: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=20 |
| 21:05.29 | Esine | hm oh |
| 21:05.53 | Cairenn | there's a whole section dedicated to mod authors, 6 different forums |
| 21:06.07 | Cairenn | :p |
| 21:06.08 | Esine | I shall post there then |
| 21:06.32 | Esine | oh, Cairenn, you are the owner of wowinterface.com? nice |
| 21:06.54 | Cairenn | Dolby and I are the co-founders, yes |
| 21:06.58 | Esine | ah |
| 21:16.22 | doow | does wowinterface have some addon installer or easy way of downloading all updated favorites as one rar or similar? |
| 21:16.47 | Slakah | doow: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8239-WoWInterfaceUIManager-Windows.html |
| 21:16.50 | doow | I'm currently using the curse installer, but it drives me nuts |
| 21:17.27 | doow | Slakah: spot on! thank you |
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| 21:24.56 | Shirik | so wotlk druids don't have improved armor gear? |
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| 21:25.45 | Fisker- | i'm gonna improve your armor gear |
| 21:25.50 | chazii | does anyone know of a mod that would list profession recipes and possibly which I'm missing and where I would get them? |
| 21:26.10 | Fisker- | AckisRecipeList :( |
| 21:26.19 | NeoTron | Shirik: correct |
| 21:26.28 | Shirik | doesn't that seem a little.... wrong? |
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| 21:26.36 | NeoTron | change of focus |
| 21:26.57 | Tem|work | Shirik: it seems -very- wrong |
| 21:27.28 | Tem|work | every feral I know has either decided to reroll or is in full "WOE IS ME" mode |
| 21:27.44 | Tem|work | Personally, I'm going DK |
| 21:28.45 | Fisker- | dk sucks |
| 21:28.51 | Tem|work | Similar note, I laughed at the irony of a warrior bitching about Illidan once they change Sheild block |
| 21:28.59 | Industrial | Fisker-: srsly stupid danish |
| 21:29.05 | Industrial | =D |
| 21:29.14 | Maldivia | Industrial: HAY! |
| 21:29.19 | Industrial | O HI |
| 21:29.23 | Tem|work | The post was something like "They have to change the Illy fight or else they completely screw warriors" |
| 21:29.25 | Fisker- | whats so changed about "sheild" block? |
| 21:29.26 | Maldivia | ~slap Industrial |
| 21:29.27 | purl | ACTION slaps Industrial, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 21:29.27 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 21:29.32 | Industrial | ^^ |
| 21:29.44 | Tem|work | Fisker-: it has a cooldown such that you can't keep it up forever anymore |
| 21:30.18 | Tem|work | so then like 800 angry ferals jumped him and complained that they couldn't tank the signature bossfight of the expansion because of crappy mechanics |
| 21:30.27 | Tem|work | I had a good chuckle |
| 21:30.54 | Fisker- | it's doable |
| 21:30.57 | Fisker- | just need to l2p |
| 21:30.58 | Fisker- | etc. |
| 21:31.08 | Tem|work | (mostly because I'm an angry feral because I can't tank the signature bossfight of the expansion because of crappy boss mechanics) |
| 21:31.12 | Esine | Alright, here's my post! Did I post this in the right forum, Cairenn? http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=101786 |
| 21:31.25 | Fisker- | warriors can intervene it i believe :P |
| 21:31.26 | Cairenn | looks fine to me |
| 21:31.30 | Esine | good. |
| 21:31.46 | Cairenn | :) |
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| 21:34.45 | Esine | I'll cross post this to other forums. |
| 21:35.01 | Cairenn | *nod8 |
| 21:35.02 | Cairenn | * |
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| 21:36.46 | Esine | but how would I properly post to wow forums without everyone yelling keylogger :/ |
| 21:36.49 | Esine | the image |
| 21:37.08 | Cairenn | link them to the thread on WoWI instead |
| 21:37.21 | Esine | Good idea |
| 21:37.25 | Cairenn | since it's a known safe site |
| 21:37.30 | cbreak | how can an image file log keys? |
| 21:37.34 | Esine | exactly |
| 21:37.43 | cbreak | well, I guess with a buffer overflow in the image decoder |
| 21:37.46 | Esine | all I can think of is the age old libjpeg overflow bug |
| 21:37.50 | Esine | but that's been patched many years ago |
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| 21:37.52 | cbreak | but the last of those was last year |
| 21:38.23 | cbreak | they had one in the iPhone browser... so someone made a website that jailbroke all iphones that surfed to it :) |
| 21:38.44 | Cairenn | cbreak: you underestimate the stupidity of users and overestimate their intelligence |
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| 21:41.53 | Tem|work | The great battle of the life is Software designers creating more idiot-proof software, and the universe creating bigger and better idiots |
| 21:42.29 | wereHamster | so far the universe is winning |
| 21:42.40 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 21:43.17 | Neuro_Medivh | Only two things are infinite: The Universe, and Human Stupidity. And we're not quite sure about The Universe. - Albert Einstein |
| 21:43.42 | Industrial | hha |
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| 21:46.31 | Cairenn | Dave2, t ^^ |
| 21:46.35 | t | nod |
| 21:47.00 | Cairenn | t: thank you :) |
| 21:47.01 | wereHamster | ge, I turn my head away for a second and the channel turns havoc -.- |
| 21:47.11 | malreth | stupid bot |
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| 21:47.23 | zenzelezz | persistent bastards |
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| 21:47.35 | Cairenn | any wonder the channel is always +R |
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| 21:47.50 | zenzelezz | Cairenn: I thought it was just your RAWR factor |
| 21:47.50 | Cairenn | I know it's a pita for you guys, but it's less of a pita than those assholes |
| 21:47.55 | t | sure |
| 21:47.57 | Cairenn | zenzelezz: awww |
| 21:47.59 | Neuro_Medivh | hmmm, the bot gets k-lined, and clad logs in... coincidence? |
| 21:48.04 | Cairenn | rofl |
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| 21:50.32 | lua_bot | Neuro_Medivh: Clad has always been here :P |
| 21:50.41 | lua_bot | Neuro_Medivh: Sekrets and lies! |
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| 21:53.19 | zenzelezz | in Shirik's case, the R is for Ruby |
| 21:53.22 | Shirik | fu |
| 21:53.27 | NeoTron | so I fail to get what the purpose of random spam bots is |
| 21:53.29 | Shirik | +b zenzelezz |
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| 21:54.52 | Neuro_Medivh | NeoTron: The purpose is to be an ass |
| 21:55.14 | NeoTron | but.. why? I mean what kind of pleasure can you possibly get? |
| 21:55.34 | Neuro_Medivh | Some people derive great pleasure from being a dick to people who can't kick their teeth in |
| 21:55.47 | Cairenn | NeoTron: same "pleasure" people seem to get out of vandalism, etc |
| 21:55.52 | Neuro_Medivh | yep |
| 21:55.59 | Cairenn | it's the exact same mentality |
| 21:56.05 | Neuro_Medivh | it's a form of inferiority complex |
| 21:56.06 | zenzelezz | or general trolling |
| 21:56.30 | Cairenn | it's just an electronic version of it |
| 21:56.39 | Neuro_Medivh | "I am powerless in real life, but I can annoy people online! " |
| 21:58.01 | Shirik | Basically we can say |
| 21:58.10 | Shirik | spam bots are me to an undesirable level |
| 21:58.16 | Shirik | They are full of fail and talk about nonsense |
| 21:58.20 | Cairenn | lol |
| 21:58.27 | NightHawkAtWork | ~comfort Shirik |
| 21:58.27 | purl | There, there, Shirik. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 21:58.42 | zenzelezz | maybe it's the other way around |
| 21:58.45 | NightHawkAtWork | you're not.. -totally- full of fail, just.. you know.. mostly |
| 21:58.48 | zenzelezz | Shirik is just a spam bot that became self-aware |
| 21:59.04 | Cairenn | lol, so mean |
| 21:59.19 | Neuro_Medivh | I blame the female of the species. Obviously, some males are not getting enough boink action, and are taking it out on the internet |
| 21:59.28 | Cairenn | :p |
| 21:59.44 | NightHawkAtWork | Neuro_Medivh: I find your ideas intruiging and wish to subscribe to your newsletter |
| 21:59.46 | Neuro_Medivh | Then again, I could be projecting my own issues onto the larger one |
| 22:00.57 | Neuro_Medivh | Also, I fall into the standard male trap. Got no girl, "Man, I need a gf." Got a girl, "Wow, I need to dump this crazy chick" |
| 22:01.03 | zenzelezz | I thought most guys who didn't get any would be like me, just hitting on all the girls, not randomly flooding channels |
| 22:01.12 | cbreak | I wonder if blizzard sticks with their customizable UI philosophy in Diablo and Starcraft too. |
| 22:01.28 | malreth | Neuro_Medivh: the only consistent feature of your dissatisfying relationships is you |
| 22:01.29 | NightHawkAtWork | Neuro_Medivh: see, you just need to realize: all girls are crazy |
| 22:01.39 | Neuro_Medivh | Oh, I figured that out long ago |
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| 22:02.06 | Cairenn | :p |
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| 22:02.07 | Neuro_Medivh | *I* didn't say it! |
| 22:02.09 | NightHawkAtWork | heh |
| 22:02.10 | Cairenn | :p |
| 22:02.16 | NightHawkAtWork | i probably deserved that. :) |
| 22:02.22 | Cairenn | Neuro_Medivh: you agreed with it |
| 22:02.36 | Cairenn | NightHawkAtWork: yes, yes you did :p |
| 22:02.49 | zenzelezz | I do believe girls are crazy... for putting up with guys |
| 22:02.53 | Neuro_Medivh | Cairenn, more than that, I codified it into a principle known as Neuro's Law: All women you meet are either boring, neurotic, or taken. |
| 22:02.55 | NightHawkAtWork | Cairenn: for what it's worth, you're one of the least crazy ones i know. :D |
| 22:03.13 | Cairenn | NightHawkAtWork: you really don't know me well yet at all, do you? |
| 22:03.15 | Cairenn | Neuro_Medivh: lol |
| 22:03.28 | Neuro_Medivh | There's a correllary: All men are either gay, assholes, or taken. |
| 22:03.34 | NightHawkAtWork | Cairenn: maybe not, or maybe I just know all the -really- crazy ones. >< |
| 22:03.41 | Cairenn | heh |
| 22:04.05 | Shirik | NightHawkAtWork: It's actually pretty good the way one of my guild members just recently put it |
| 22:04.07 | malreth | i'm perfectly happy with boring women |
| 22:04.15 | Neuro_Medivh | Note: a person can be in more than one category. I've met women who are all three |
| 22:04.16 | malreth | and neurotic women, too |
| 22:04.25 | malreth | come to think of it... |
| 22:04.33 | malreth | i'm also okay with taken women |
| 22:04.40 | Cairenn | lol |
| 22:04.57 | Neuro_Medivh | malreth: You down with OPP? |
| 22:05.07 | malreth | Neuro_Medivh: yeah you know me |
| 22:05.29 | NightHawkAtWork | Shirik: were you going to finish that statement at all? :p |
| 22:05.39 | Shirik | trying to |
| 22:05.45 | Neuro_Medivh | he's scared of getting kicked |
| 22:05.48 | Shirik | unfortunately it's not written in a manner directly copyable >.> |
| 22:05.49 | Shirik | And that too |
| 22:06.05 | NightHawkAtWork | pfft. getting kicked just means you're right. ;) |
| 22:06.12 | malreth | yep |
| 22:06.12 | Cairenn | ... |
| 22:06.16 | Cairenn | :p |
| 22:06.18 | NightHawkAtWork | hehe |
| 22:06.33 | Shirik | really? |
| 22:06.38 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Shirik!n=skullsho@conspiracy/developer/Shirik] by Shirik (bye) |
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| 22:06.40 | Cairenn | and I say again, good thing I love you guys :p |
| 22:06.40 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 22:06.43 | Cairenn | hahahahha |
| 22:06.47 | NightHawkAtWork | haha |
| 22:06.53 | zenzelezz | Shirik: kicking yourself is like masturbating, it doesn't count |
| 22:06.56 | Shirik | >< |
| 22:08.07 | Neuro_Medivh | we love you too Cairenn! |
| 22:08.12 | Cairenn | :) |
| 22:08.28 | malreth | some of us love you more than others |
| 22:08.42 | malreth | o_o |
| 22:10.41 | Shirik | All of us are equal |
| 22:10.44 | Shirik | but some are more equal than others |
| 22:10.54 | Thunder_Child | badmin abuse |
| 22:11.03 | Neuro_Medivh | four legs good! two legs better! |
| 22:11.15 | zenzelezz | badmin? Doesn't that qualify as a pun? |
| 22:11.22 | Thunder_Child | no |
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| 22:15.05 | Sixen | hai |
| 22:15.17 | Cairenn | hey Sixen |
| 22:15.28 | Sixen | Hey Cairenn, what's up>? |
| 22:15.37 | Cairenn | nothing much, you? |
| 22:16.08 | Thunder_Child | ...i had filter keys turned on and couldnt use the same key more than once every 10 seonds....so frustrating |
| 22:16.18 | Sixen | Just got home from class, tired.. |
| 22:17.53 | Thunder_Child | wtb resonable pricing for tv series |
| 22:18.17 | Neuro_Medivh | depends on the series. Most are reasonable, except for Star Trek |
| 22:18.29 | Thunder_Child | i know, $50 a pop is not fun |
| 22:18.35 | Thunder_Child | even $30 isnt resonable to me |
| 22:18.41 | zenzelezz | that's only natural Neuro, Star Trek was never reasonable |
| 22:18.49 | Neuro_Medivh | $50? Star Trek was $80 a season last I checked |
| 22:19.16 | Neuro_Medivh | I can usually swing $30, depending on series |
| 22:19.41 | Thunder_Child | voyager was $50 i thought |
| 22:19.48 | Neuro_Medivh | Ah, maybe... |
| 22:20.02 | Neuro_Medivh | TNG was $80 when it came out, which is just stupid |
| 22:20.31 | Neuro_Medivh | If I'm being completely honest, I haven't actually paid for a tv series in awhile =) |
| 22:21.00 | Thunder_Child | well macgyver is only $22 a season, thats resonable |
| 22:21.22 | NightHawkAtWork | yeah, but that's macguyver |
| 22:21.36 | Neuro_Medivh | well, the advantage of macguyver is you only have to buy 1 season |
| 22:22.03 | Neuro_Medivh | as the other seasons are just thinly-veiled repeats =) |
| 22:22.32 | Cairenn | who cares! It's MacGyver .... mmmmmmmm |
| 22:22.48 | NightHawkAtWork | requisite xkcd link: http://xkcd.com/444/ |
| 22:22.56 | Tem|work | am I imagining it or is there only like 4 armor models of each type atm? |
| 22:23.04 | Tem|work | (beta) |
| 22:23.15 | Neuro_Medivh | no, you're not imagining things |
| 22:23.22 | Neuro_Medivh | if you're refering to the quest armor |
| 22:23.52 | Neuro_Medivh | it's an attempt to reduce the 'dorky clown' effect from BC |
| 22:23.52 | Tem|work | including boss drops from what I've seen |
| 22:24.17 | Tem|work | I hate it |
| 22:24.20 | Neuro_Medivh | my only complaint is that the plate helm looks like a 1920's football helmet |
| 22:24.22 | Tem|work | everything looks the same |
| 22:24.42 | Tem|work | I have a hunch, though, that it's just temporary |
| 22:24.51 | Neuro_Medivh | btw, meant to ask, how is server stability? I really can't log in while downloading the WAR beta client |
| 22:25.01 | Tem|work | it was pretty stable last night |
| 22:25.15 | Tem|work | though, DKs seem to have noticed that they can cause any NPC they want to despawn |
| 22:25.23 | smcn | lol |
| 22:25.35 | Tem|work | which is... erm |
| 22:25.38 | Neuro_Medivh | lol, how so? |
| 22:25.48 | Tem|work | Death Pact |
| 22:25.54 | smcn | is there no new spell power gems yet or something? |
| 22:26.00 | Tem|work | cast it with an npc targetted and they despawn |
| 22:26.00 | smcn | wowhead weighting is being weird |
| 22:26.07 | smcn | telling me to use 6 mp5 gems.. |
| 22:27.36 | Tem|work | Internet rant time |
| 22:27.58 | Tem|work | People who post thumbnail photos that don't link to a full-size version piss me off |
| 22:28.28 | Neuro_Medivh | agreed! You can't get good detail on thumbnail-sized porn! |
| 22:29.18 | Neuro_Medivh | what? I was agreeing with you! =) |
| 22:29.49 | Neuro_Medivh | btw, Tem, your family ok there in N.O.? |
| 22:34.53 | Thunder_Child | smcn, you and your star trek porn |
| 22:35.24 | smcn | mm jeri ryan |
| 22:35.42 | Thunder_Child | never found her all that atractive |
| 22:35.48 | Neuro_Medivh | me neither |
| 22:35.56 | Esine | me too! |
| 22:36.03 | Esine | oh sorry, this is not an aol chatroom? |
| 22:36.17 | Thunder_Child | not yet |
| 22:36.38 | Thrae | Esine: Obviously not, otherwise you'd have said, "me2" |
| 22:38.46 | cbreak | great... seems I have to find a five-second-rule timer addon for my mage for WotLK boss fights... |
| 22:39.18 | Neuro_Medivh | why so? |
| 22:40.04 | kd3 | cbreak; don't trust what the CMs say. just keep your eyes on the devs' comments |
| 22:40.05 | cbreak | a blue said we should stop casting for mana regen due to spirit |
| 22:40.11 | cbreak | which dev comments? |
| 22:40.11 | kd3 | s/blue/CM/ |
| 22:40.28 | Neuro_Medivh | then he's an idiot |
| 22:40.28 | kd3 | any of them. ghost's been posting in the mage forum more often than not |
| 22:40.36 | cbreak | ghost? |
| 22:40.45 | cbreak | some us guy? |
| 22:41.01 | kd3 | ghostcrawler's a class designer |
| 22:41.08 | kd3 | she's all over the US beta forums |
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| 22:41.43 | cbreak | I rarely read the US forum, it's not fun to just passively consume |
| 22:43.22 | cbreak | doesn't seem to be much blue feedback on the US forum either at the moment :/ |
| 22:43.26 | Neuro_Medivh | as a mage, you should just ignore the 5 second rule, and pretend that you just don't regen mana during combat, except via talents |
| 22:44.03 | cncfanatics | Neuro_Medivh: true story |
| 22:44.49 | Neuro_Medivh | between evocation, pots, mana gems, you should last a loong time on boss fights... and when you do OOM, break out the wand! |
| 22:46.00 | cbreak | I never had that many mana problems in BC, but with all the whining on the forums of those who actually managed to level up to 80 despite all the server problems, the situation is much more dire |
| 22:46.22 | kd3 | nothing is balanced right now. I'm not all that worried yet |
| 22:46.29 | smcn | cbreak: yeah, but then they complain that there's too much spirit on the gear :P |
| 22:46.36 | smcn | naxx gear* |
| 22:47.12 | Neuro_Medivh | they have a point. Spirit is nigh-worthless in combat, and out-of-combat you can drink to regen |
| 22:47.18 | smcn | i actually ran out of mana a couple times healing ahn'katet earlier, with a t6 bear tank... but it was mostly during flourish spam :P |
| 22:48.20 | NightHawkAtWork | kd3: I'm a -little- worried about resto shaman sustainability, and maybe thruput, but I'mholding off judgement for now *shrug* |
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| 22:49.10 | cbreak | ah well, if needed I should get 50% spirit regen while casting with a frost spec |
| 22:49.52 | Shirik | mmmm spirit |
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| 22:50.41 | cbreak | that's a lot for a mage |
| 22:51.17 | NightHawkAtWork | its a fair emount for anyone, really |
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| 22:55.13 | Shirik | except I'm not a mage, cbreak :D |
| 22:55.29 | cbreak | nobody is perfect |
| 22:55.38 | Shirik | I am |
| 22:55.40 | Shirik | and Cairenn is |
| 22:55.45 | Shirik | and Lopeppeppy |
| 22:55.45 | Syzgyn | ~failrik |
| 22:55.45 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 22:55.47 | Shirik | but that's about it |
| 22:55.54 | Sixen | Protip: Not all stickies serve the same purpose. |
| 22:55.55 | Sixen | win |
| 22:56.27 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, you're smooth this afternoon. |
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| 22:57.47 | Sixen | kd3, you win @ the intarwebz. |
| 22:57.52 | kd3 | why thank you |
| 22:58.05 | Sixen | No, thank you, =] |
| 22:58.11 | Sixen | Ever get BlizzCon tickets? =X |
| 22:59.41 | Lopeppeppy | Oh ffs. My cat just begged for me to put up the foot rest... and I did. |
| 22:59.45 | Lopeppeppy | I'm sooo whipped. |
| 23:00.13 | Cairenn | lol |
| 23:00.31 | smcn | pussy whipped! |
| 23:00.35 | Lopeppeppy | She so very rarely wants to sit with me, so when she asks to... I just can't resist the green eyes. |
| 23:00.45 | Lopeppeppy | Literally, smcn, which is why I used the phrase. :) |
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| 23:03.18 | cncfanatics | fuck |
| 23:03.28 | Cairenn | I wish |
| 23:03.29 | cncfanatics | I forgot to backup my music collection when I changed distros |
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| 23:03.35 | cncfanatics | FUCK |
| 23:03.36 | Sixen | lol |
| 23:03.37 | Sixen | Kd3, "huh fixed what" |
| 23:03.41 | Cairenn | oh ouch! |
| 23:03.59 | Lopeppeppy | Oh hells. |
| 23:04.19 | Cairenn | that bits cncfanatics |
| 23:04.23 | Cairenn | bites* |
| 23:04.46 | NightHawkAtWork | cncfanatics: >< suck. |
| 23:05.03 | cncfanatics | well, its redownloadable & rerippable from the cd's I got |
| 23:05.06 | cncfanatics | it'll just take bloody ages |
| 23:05.13 | NightHawkAtWork | *nod* still a pain in the ass. |
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| 23:05.40 | Shirik | I wonder |
| 23:05.57 | Shirik | If someone were to commit their C:\ recursively to a subversion repo |
| 23:06.03 | Shirik | would it be extremely big? |
| 23:06.10 | cncfanatics | bigger then a git repos for sure |
| 23:06.17 | cncfanatics | oh, and I don't have a c:\ :p |
| 23:06.20 | Shirik | well whatever |
| 23:06.25 | Shirik | some version control system |
| 23:10.53 | Lopeppeppy | Wow my house is quiet. Yeah. |
| 23:12.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Isn't that a good thing? |
| 23:13.31 | cncfanatics | depends on what kind of person you are I supose |
| 23:13.36 | cncfanatics | I hate quiet places except when i'm sleeping :p |
| 23:14.43 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, make a new one you bum |
| 23:15.28 | Esamynn | hmm, what? |
| 23:15.42 | Thunder_Child | "I haven't yet decided whether to host this year's BlizzCon photos in a new gallery, or just reuse the old one. But this year the gallery will be ready before the start of the convention so we can post pictures each night." |
| 23:16.00 | Cairenn | wow, necro conversation! |
| 23:16.05 | cog|work | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b75cl4-qRE |
| 23:16.09 | Esamynn | no kidding |
| 23:16.13 | Thunder_Child | shhh.. i'm just going over it |
| 23:16.15 | Thunder_Child | again |
| 23:16.22 | Thunder_Child | i forgot to say something then |
| 23:16.36 | Syzgyn | Aw man |
| 23:16.39 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: why would a make a whole new one, and re-do all the inital setup? :P |
| 23:16.46 | Syzgyn | Wintergraspy broke the server |
| 23:17.04 | Sixen | ohai cog |
| 23:17.09 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, i dont mind a C/P but i dont think it would look that good with all the 2k7 pic in it |
| 23:17.11 | cog|work | hallo |
| 23:17.30 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: all the old ones would get moved into a sub-album |
| 23:17.35 | Lunessa | hai 2 u 2. |
| 23:18.20 | Shirik | "You have reached Argonne National Labs CIS help desk. We are currently closed. Our normal operation hours are 7:30 AM to 5 PM. If you need immediate assistance, please <beep>" |
| 23:18.25 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, have to redo the links as well |
| 23:18.34 | Esamynn | hmm? |
| 23:18.36 | Lunessa | And Cairenn, re motd - yes, I do think it's wise. It provides additional Darwinian Forces to the male population. |
| 23:18.43 | Cairenn | heh |
| 23:18.43 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, it points to 2997 |
| 23:18.47 | Syzgyn | Lol Shirik |
| 23:18.48 | Thunder_Child | 2007* |
| 23:19.03 | Esamynn | oh, you mean the base domain? |
| 23:19.18 | Sixen | New Beta build? Yes |
| 23:19.20 | Sixen | ? |
| 23:19.21 | Esamynn | all of these things are solvable |
| 23:19.21 | Thunder_Child | ya, as well as there would be no direct link to 2k7 then |
| 23:19.34 | Sixen | Oh, nevermind. |
| 23:19.40 | Sixen | Same thread as yesterday. |
| 23:20.00 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, other than that, seems fine to me |
| 23:20.38 | Neuro_Medivh | cog, I can't tell whether that sushi video is being ironic or serious |
| 23:20.57 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: only question would be, how far do I go to fully support old links |
| 23:21.12 | cog|work | a few parts make it obviously ironic, but some of the subtler bits are quite hilarious if you catch them :P |
| 23:21.50 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, i think simply pointing http://blizzcon2007.norganna.org/ to the sub-album would be fine |
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| 23:22.11 | Esamynn | yah, that's the least I'll do |
| 23:22.44 | Thunder_Child | and someone will have a laptop for the posting? i dont have one |
| 23:22.51 | Esamynn | damn, I've forgotten my password :( |
| 23:22.58 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 23:23.15 | Esamynn | it's recoverable |
| 23:23.21 | Neuro_Medivh | Esamynn, try "cyberlovemonkey" |
| 23:23.28 | Neuro_Medivh | that's what I set it to, should work for you too |
| 23:23.32 | Sixen | *sigh* what've I been missing? |
| 23:23.37 | Thunder_Child | Neuro_Medivh, thats for his porn sites |
| 23:23.40 | Sixen | there's a new beta realm called Murmur? |
| 23:23.47 | Esamynn | Sixen: premade realm |
| 23:23.50 | Neuro_Medivh | No, MurmEr |
| 23:23.51 | Sixen | Very nice. |
| 23:24.14 | Neuro_Medivh | and I hear it's filled with polite and skilled players |
| 23:24.50 | Sixen | Neuro, you must be thinking of like the Sims or something. |
| 23:25.23 | Sixen | Premades + Beta != Polite + Skilled |
| 23:26.18 | Neuro_Medivh | don't forget courteious |
| 23:28.12 | Dashkal | Courtesy.... isn't that when you see someone of the same faction who needs the same target you do, and you leg it over to tag first? |
| 23:29.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Totally depends on their race, class, and name. |
| 23:30.01 | ScytheBlade1 | If I see a BE Hunter named Lego I can guarantee you that any mob he tries to tab, he will not get. |
| 23:30.09 | ScytheBlade1 | s/tab/tag/ |
| 23:30.14 | Shirik | If any of the following apply, that is courtesy: Race gnome, class warlock or mage, name Sbo |
| 23:30.32 | ScytheBlade1 | You can't even remember my class |
| 23:30.33 | ScytheBlade1 | ~failrik |
| 23:30.34 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 23:30.39 | Shirik | Uh, you're a mage |
| 23:30.42 | Shirik | I said "any of the following" |
| 23:30.49 | Shirik | It was a mere coincidence that all 3 applied to you |
| 23:31.18 | Shirik | admittedly 2/3 apply to kd3 |
| 23:31.36 | Shirik | unfortunately 1/3 applies to Lopeppeppy |
| 23:31.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Meh |
| 23:31.41 | ScytheBlade1 | ~failrik |
| 23:31.41 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 23:31.44 | Shirik | however, she can reroll |
| 23:31.47 | ScytheBlade1 | It always applies in every situation |
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| 23:36.20 | Duman | whee |
| 23:36.35 | WobWork | In the interest of future American politics. Vote 1 Palin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf1y9s73Nos =) |
| 23:36.46 | WobWork | (PS It's a parody) |
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| 23:40.35 | ckknight | hrm, is there a good way to draw circles in WoW? |
| 23:40.44 | ckknight | outside of providing my own tga, that is |
| 23:41.16 | Shirik | make a ton of 1 pixel frames and SetPoint them according to sin/cos |
| 23:41.39 | Esine | that's a great idea Shirik. Remember to add antialiasing too with transparent frames |
| 23:42.36 | ckknight | ...ick |
| 23:43.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik is just full of great ideas |
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| 23:44.57 | ckknight | lol |
| 23:44.59 | squidbear | >__> |
| 23:45.19 | squidbear | where can I find a list of events that I can use for RegisterEvent()? |
| 23:45.27 | Neuro_Medivh | www.wowwiki.com |
| 23:45.28 | Shirik | ~devtools |
| 23:45.29 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 23:45.33 | ckknight | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_A-Z_(Full_List) |
| 23:45.35 | Esine | squidbear, |
| 23:45.42 | Esine | .. exactly what I was going to post ckknight |
| 23:46.09 | squidbear | Thank you |
| 23:46.19 | ckknight | down with bears, btw |
| 23:46.22 | ckknight | too big a threat. |
| 23:46.37 | Shirik | :( |
| 23:47.16 | squidbear | :( |
| 23:49.19 | smcn | okay wow what is the noun for someone who does inscription? i never even thought of it |
| 23:49.23 | smcn | scribe? |
| 23:49.31 | smcn | would someone even respond to that? |
| 23:49.51 | ckknight | start using it |
| 23:49.52 | ckknight | :- |
| 23:49.55 | ckknight | :-P |
| 23:49.58 | smcn | good idea |
| 23:49.59 | ckknight | LF Scribe |
| 23:50.14 | ckknight | they'll be like "bitch, what a scribe, I smack you up" |
| 23:50.15 | smcn | i've been using azn to refer to azjol'nerub, so far it hasn't caught on |
| 23:50.18 | smcn | rofl |
| 23:50.26 | ckknight | and you'll be like "fine sir, it is someone who knows Inscription" |
| 23:50.35 | ckknight | and they'll be like "I still smack you up, bitch" |
| 23:50.39 | ckknight | mhmm. |
| 23:51.02 | ckknight | azn = asian |
| 23:51.06 | ckknight | do something not taken |
| 23:51.18 | smcn | that's why i'm using it! |
| 23:51.35 | ckknight | ...don't make me smack you up |
| 23:52.55 | Shirik | o look email from Tekkub |
| 23:52.57 | Neuro_Medivh | more likely, it'll be "inscriber" |
| 23:53.00 | Shirik | it better not say "lulz WNF" |
| 23:53.09 | smcn | i just said "wtb glyphs" |
| 23:53.12 | Shirik | o yay Status: Fixed |
| 23:53.21 | Tekkub | :P |
| 23:53.28 | smcn | but trade is full of people asking how to get into northrend so i guess i'll wait |
| 23:53.49 | Neuro_Medivh | new round of beta invites go out? |
| 23:54.07 | smcn | perhaps |
| 23:54.26 | smcn | there was a level 40-something said "no mount in cities is gay" |
| 23:54.43 | smcn | i wish i would get a second key, solo is so boring |
| 23:54.52 | Neuro_Medivh | obviously a critical and witty insight |
| 23:55.17 | ckknight | smcn: you duel-box? |
| 23:55.24 | ckknight | err |
| 23:55.24 | ckknight | dual-box* |
| 23:55.33 | smcn | no, i duo with my mom |
| 23:55.39 | smcn | and that's not sarcasm :P |
| 23:55.43 | ckknight | alright then |
| 23:55.48 | cncfanatics | smcn: my mom comments usualy are :p |
| 23:55.51 | ckknight | family activities are important |
| 23:56.12 | ckknight | I duo'd with the last girl I lived with |
| 23:56.20 | Esine | serious? how are you and your mom smcn? |
| 23:56.26 | Dewin | That sounds like an euphimism for something, ck |
| 23:56.28 | smcn | 23 and 40-something |
| 23:56.31 | Esine | ok.. |
| 23:56.46 | ckknight | currently don't live with anyone, and the girls I date now don't play WoW, so *sigh* |
| 23:57.07 | Dewin | My wife is arguably more into video games than me, + she's a licensed massage therapist, so I win. |
| 23:58.14 | smcn | Dewin: wow talk about a lifestyle prone to RSI :P |
| 23:58.22 | Dewin | definitely |
| 23:58.33 | Dewin | I'm a programmer for a living so... I'm also prone to RSI |
| 23:58.46 | cncfanatics | RSI ? |
| 23:58.50 | Dewin | She isn't actually working as an LMT yet, only recently got the license. |
| 23:58.53 | Dewin | repetitive stress injury |
| 23:58.54 | Esine | RSI is the wrist pain thing? |
| 23:58.58 | Dewin | such as carpal tunnel |
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| 23:59.16 | Dewin | there are other RSIs too. |
| 23:59.46 | Dewin | The school she went to actually teachers proper body mechanics too, as to reduce the incidence of RSI |
| 23:59.47 | smcn | apparently 10 minutes can happen in the span of 50 seconds |
