| 00:00.01 | Hirsute | kd3 Want a copy of what? |
| 00:00.08 | Duman | diff |
| 00:00.10 | kd3 | the interface diffs |
| 00:00.16 | Hirsute | Ahh |
| 00:00.24 | Skate555-Laptop | any chance one of you could take a few seconds to tell me how to link an lua and an xml in addon studio?? like so if a lua is for a cirtain xml i can hit the collaps button and it'll hide the lua?? |
| 00:00.30 | Esine | kd3, me me me |
| 00:00.40 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:00.51 | Neuro_Medivh | well, at least it's not giving me the "invalid game version" anymore =) |
| 00:01.25 | kd3 | alright everyone, you know who you are. email's out |
| 00:01.35 | cbreak | Skate555-Laptop: you don't need to link files, just mention them in the correct order in the toc |
| 00:02.18 | Skate555-Laptop | cbreak ok so if i change the order that will change if i can hide the lua files in solution explorer?? |
| 00:02.43 | cbreak | I have no idea what you're talking about |
| 00:02.57 | cbreak | I was speaking about the needed steps for it to work |
| 00:03.05 | cbreak | not anything that you do during development |
| 00:03.25 | Skate555-Laptop | ok example; when i create a new frame it creates an xml and an lua in a tree view...so i can hide the lua file...i want to do this with already existing files.. |
| 00:04.05 | Skate555-Laptop | i already know how to make the addon work..i'm just trying to make things more comfortable in the dev environment... |
| 00:04.46 | Ackis | everytime I get an e-mail from kd3 I want to eat kraft dinner :( |
| 00:05.15 | Corgan | overkill ._. |
| 00:05.16 | Esamynn | haha |
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| 00:06.47 | Anaral | Um, am I reading the diff right, did they just completely remove the Achievement Alert? I don't see alternative code. |
| 00:07.22 | Anaral | Ackis I want Pizza, and yay, tonight I have pizza and kd3's diff files. :D |
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| 00:08.29 | Skate555-Laptop | bastard i cant have pizza till the 10th |
| 00:09.37 | Corgan | Anaral, AlertFrames.lua got a new event |
| 00:09.40 | NeoTron | out of curiosity, where do they start a new week on Fridays? |
| 00:09.49 | Corgan | for the achievement alerts |
| 00:10.20 | Anaral | Ah, otay, hadn't gotten there yet... and my daughter just pressed a button that scrolled the diff window to who knows where... >.< |
| 00:10.41 | NeoTron | ahaha |
| 00:10.43 | NeoTron | OVERKILL |
| 00:10.46 | Ackis | push button get bacon |
| 00:13.05 | kd3 | the hell? |
| 00:13.07 | kd3 | overkill? |
| 00:13.11 | kd3 | are we playing FFX now? |
| 00:13.16 | End | OVERRRRRRKILL! |
| 00:13.49 | Hirsute | Speaking of FF, anyone ever read http://bannable-offenses.blogspot.com? |
| 00:13.54 | kd3 | <3 |
| 00:13.57 | kd3 | is he updating again? |
| 00:14.38 | Hirsute | He is, a couple of times a week, usually. |
| 00:15.06 | Hirsute | I found him through http://blanktop.blogspot.com... which was abso-friggin-lutely hilarious... but he's *not* updating any more. |
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| 00:15.55 | Corgan | you can "watch" tokens now |
| 00:16.02 | Corgan | or could you before.. |
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| 00:16.12 | kd3 | now the question is... have they finally fixed the token UI? |
| 00:16.13 | Ackis | oh look at that token? wow it's doing some snazy stuff |
| 00:16.14 | Ackis | wow |
| 00:16.23 | Corgan | kd3, hopefully |
| 00:16.28 | Corgan | Ackis, yarrr |
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| 00:16.38 | Ackis | ps: wow is biased against people without hands |
| 00:16.50 | Duman | heh |
| 00:16.51 | Corgan | I don't know why you would want to "watch" them, it's not like you gain them fast enough to need to watch them |
| 00:17.17 | kd3 | meh, a heads-up display of my winterfall spirit beads would be nice |
| 00:17.57 | kd3 | 76.349% done. yay |
| 00:17.59 | Corgan | tokens though? |
| 00:18.20 | Corgan | PLAYER_SERVER_FIRST_ACHIEVEMENT = "|Hplayer:%s|h[%s]|h has earned the achievement: $a!"; |
| 00:18.32 | Corgan | looks like serverwide server-first achievement message |
| 00:19.02 | Corgan | and..you can gain a squire |
| 00:19.18 | Corgan | as a pet/companion |
| 00:19.18 | Esamynn | now everyone will know about server first boss kills, the moment it happens! ;) |
| 00:19.28 | kd3 | so we finally have a logical reason for summoning mounts out of thin air? |
| 00:19.46 | End | heh |
| 00:19.52 | Esamynn | kd3: we always did :P |
| 00:19.56 | Esamynn | it's called Magic |
| 00:19.59 | Corgan | lol |
| 00:20.00 | End | indeed |
| 00:20.04 | kd3 | warriors? rogues? |
| 00:20.06 | End | you can explain anything with magic |
| 00:20.12 | End | magic...trinket! |
| 00:20.20 | Esamynn | kd3: the spell was cast by an item before :P |
| 00:22.29 | Hirsute | I thought they pulled the server first achievements out... |
| 00:22.37 | Icecoldcoke | Not for server first kills. |
| 00:22.39 | kd3 | just the titles for the achievements |
| 00:22.49 | kd3 | all of the feats are still there |
| 00:23.05 | Hirsute | Aaah. |
| 00:23.19 | Duman | welp, all patched up |
| 00:23.24 | Duman | servers need to come up now |
| 00:23.31 | Anaral | Hmm, so is the token watch frame in game, or does it need to be created? |
| 00:23.33 | NeoTron | seems like some major options ui rework |
| 00:23.33 | End | ^ |
| 00:23.56 | kd3 | whee |
| 00:24.07 | kd3 | new events: UNIT_ENTERED_VEHICLE & EXITED |
| 00:24.20 | Duman | that was in last patch |
| 00:24.27 | Duman | or... should have been |
| 00:24.31 | NeoTron | removed the thret meter |
| 00:24.37 | Duman | lame |
| 00:24.44 | Corgan | ^^ |
| 00:24.53 | NeoTron | probably because it's not working yet |
| 00:24.59 | NeoTron | or hopefully... |
| 00:25.02 | Duman | -ThreatMeter.xml |
| 00:26.32 | Esamynn | Anaral: token watch frame? are you talking about the token stuff on the Char frame? |
| 00:27.16 | Esine | OT: anyone know what language this is? "nema!" "nemaaa" "al ima rogue u areni" |
| 00:27.35 | Esine | and what it means |
| 00:27.47 | Anaral | Esamynn: I was thinking of a way to add that info to a more easily viewable area... |
| 00:27.58 | Icecoldcoke | Esine: Gibberish. |
| 00:28.24 | Esine | can't be |
| 00:28.35 | Esine | a warrior yelled it when I was killing him. probably to his teammate? |
| 00:28.57 | Esamynn | actually, that particular language is called Stupiz, and is mostly spoken by the mentally retarded |
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| 00:29.38 | Esine | this is in the european realms btw all languages look a bit like that |
| 00:29.45 | Icecoldcoke | New Exotic Pet: Corehound |
| 00:29.47 | Icecoldcoke | !!!!! |
| 00:29.50 | Icecoldcoke | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 00:29.51 | Esamynn | Anaral: I cannot wait to get all these damn tokens out of my bags |
| 00:29.58 | Esamynn | Icecoldcoke: are you fucking with us? |
| 00:30.03 | Ackis | Icecoldcoke: mini-pet or real pet? |
| 00:30.04 | Esamynn | if you are, I'm gonna kill you |
| 00:30.04 | Icecoldcoke | No |
| 00:30.06 | Icecoldcoke | Real pet |
| 00:30.10 | kd3 | source? |
| 00:30.11 | Icecoldcoke | Wotlkwiki |
| 00:30.13 | Esamynn | source |
| 00:30.14 | kd3 | fail |
| 00:30.17 | Hirsute | for bm hunters |
| 00:30.38 | Icecoldcoke | I think I have MC attune on my hunter.. can't remember. |
| 00:30.47 | Esamynn | I wanna know where they are getting their info from |
| 00:31.03 | kd3 | presumably ripping apart the dbcs |
| 00:31.14 | kd3 | I haven't even looked at this patch's mpq |
| 00:31.15 | Esamynn | in which case, that is NOT reliable :P |
| 00:31.22 | Icecoldcoke | Hmm.. but they can't be trapped and will rape you in 3 seconds with -100% armor... |
| 00:31.32 | Icecoldcoke | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:31.51 | Anaral | Esamynn: Agreed on getting rid of the physical tokens. |
| 00:32.28 | Esamynn | Anaral: I'm counting on that change to even come close to the bank space I'm gonna need for my new set of "memento" items |
| 00:32.43 | Anaral | Heh, yeah |
| 00:32.46 | Ackis | memento items? |
| 00:32.54 | Esamynn | Ackis: mostly old raid epics |
| 00:32.55 | Ackis | the robe you wore when you lost your virginity? |
| 00:33.02 | Esamynn | T1, T2, other stuff |
| 00:33.04 | Anaral | Do you know how much I'm kicking myself for getting rid of my MC gear??? |
| 00:33.16 | Ackis | Esamynn: I have that all still too heh |
| 00:33.29 | Esamynn | Anaral: because of the achievements? |
| 00:33.38 | Anaral | Aye |
| 00:34.09 | NightHawkAtWork | alright, later kids |
| 00:34.11 | Anaral | And there is also some ZG gear, including from Hakkar |
| 00:34.19 | Esamynn | I actually went through it in my head, because of quests I've done then, or since TBC's release, I will get credit for all the raid bosses I've killed (except for C'thun), based on quests alone |
| 00:34.20 | Anaral | *grumbles* |
| 00:34.36 | Anaral | Yeah, not me. |
| 00:34.38 | Esamynn | Anaral: ZG gear won't get you the achievements anyways |
| 00:34.50 | kd3 | meh, I've got quests done for all of the classic raids and the dungeons short of BRD for the alliance |
| 00:34.51 | Anaral | Hmm, what will? |
| 00:35.09 | Esamynn | drops will only get you achievements for 25+ man raids |
| 00:35.12 | kd3 | check [[Dungeons and Raid achievements]] on the wiki |
| 00:35.16 | Esamynn | other than that, it's quests |
| 00:35.22 | Anaral | Bah! |
| 00:35.36 | Anaral | I don't have the rep to do the one quest I could. |
| 00:35.36 | Esamynn | Anaral: you never got your ZG trinket? |
| 00:36.08 | Anaral | Um, the one you had to have the voodoo doll for? |
| 00:36.21 | Esamynn | no wait, just a sec |
| 00:36.31 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Dungeons_and_Raids_achievements#Raids |
| 00:36.44 | kd3 | accurate as of the last build |
| 00:36.51 | Esamynn | Anaral: http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=8183 |
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| 00:38.33 | Anaral | Esamynn: Sadly no. :( Stupid one drop per kill. Only got to hakkar like 10 times. |
| 00:38.44 | Esamynn | ahh :( |
| 00:39.19 | Esamynn | C'thun is gonna be a real bitch to rekill though |
| 00:39.43 | kd3 | green beam the middle of the raid! |
| 00:39.59 | Esamynn | haha |
| 00:40.24 | Duman | heh |
| 00:40.27 | Esamynn | the Archimonde fight reminds me of C'thun actually |
| 00:40.40 | Esamynn | about the same as far as "room to screw up" goes |
| 00:41.04 | Esamynn | kd3: ouch |
| 00:41.10 | Anaral | Never did the 40 man AQ, heck only done AQ20 twice. :/ |
| 00:41.22 | Esamynn | we beat our heads against C'thun for over a month, I'm sure |
| 00:41.34 | Esamynn | don't remember how long it took, but it felt like forever |
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| 00:42.07 | Esamynn | I can't even check anymore because my old guild's website has gone offline |
| 00:43.01 | Esamynn | anyways, home time for me |
| 00:43.18 | Icecoldcoke | I hope they randomly increase the amount of actual characters you can copy to the beta. |
| 00:43.20 | Anaral | My old guild banned both my husband and I when we left of our own decision. Our old guild leader is a dick. |
| 00:43.38 | Esamynn | jeez |
| 00:43.40 | Anaral | So can't look to see exactly how many times we did ZG |
| 00:46.19 | kd3 | 16.429% done with wintersaber. sigh |
| 00:46.43 | Sargeras | ew |
| 00:46.50 | Duman | heh |
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| 00:47.08 | WobWork | Ahahahahahaha |
| 00:47.10 | WobWork | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?pet=45 |
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| 00:48.08 | Duman | LOL |
| 00:48.13 | Anaral | LET ME IN!!! |
| 00:48.36 | Sargeras | you can finally tame core hounds? lol |
| 00:48.45 | Sargeras | in BC alpha I knew someone who tried |
| 00:50.20 | Icecoldcoke | The core hounds will be hard to tame with -100% armor.. |
| 00:51.01 | Anaral | Is there a way to wrap text in the TortoiseUDiff viewer? |
| 00:52.37 | NeoTron | Icecoldcoke: bring a tank! |
| 00:53.03 | NeoTron | Esamynn|Away: "over a month" feels so trivial after 2.5 mnths on muru |
| 00:53.44 | WobWork | Icecoldcoke: bring two hunters |
| 00:53.52 | Hirsute | Aye, two frost traps and you're good. |
| 00:53.53 | WobWork | have the second icetrap also |
| 00:54.07 | Hirsute | s/frost trap/ice trap/ |
| 00:54.08 | WobWork | or even one |
| 00:54.24 | WobWork | you can chain trap for long enough for it to work |
| 00:54.44 | Anaral | Um, aren't core hounds untrappable? |
| 00:54.46 | Hirsute | Doesn't laying down another trap break the channeling? |
| 00:54.54 | Hirsute | Anaral: They may be, I've never fought one. |
| 00:54.55 | Anaral | Yes, yes it would |
| 00:55.02 | NeoTron | core hounts would suck for casters |
| 00:55.09 | NeoTron | constant 50% reduction in cast time |
| 00:55.29 | NeoTron | I'd assume core hounds can't be crowd controlled |
| 00:55.34 | NeoTron | I'd just bring my tank friend and healer friend |
| 00:55.52 | Icecoldcoke | Well.. you can't ice trap a core hound.. and if you have a tank then you wont be able to tame it |
| 00:55.57 | Icecoldcoke | Unless they changed taming beats |
| 00:56.04 | Hirsute | Tanking won't work either, unless they change how taming works. |
| 00:56.11 | Hirsute | What he said. |
| 00:56.28 | Hirsute | You have to hold aggro on the beastie you're training, or it breaks the channelling. |
| 00:56.35 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 00:56.40 | NeoTron | so just bring a healer? |
| 00:56.49 | Icecoldcoke | A zone check has been added to count Horde and Alliance players in the area. The side that is outnumbered gains the Tenacity buff: "Being outnumbered has increased your tenacity, increasing your health by 12.5% and your damage by 5%." |
| 00:56.51 | Hirsute | Bring a healer and stack up some threat first. |
| 00:56.54 | Icecoldcoke | The final reward honor for winning or losing Wintergrasp will now be increased by your rank earned during the gameplay. (Recruit, Corporal, etc.) |
| 00:56.58 | NeoTron | right |
| 00:57.12 | kd3 | wtb rank based on HKs instead of KBs |
| 00:57.12 | NeoTron | will be a challenge to get even at 80 |
| 00:57.23 | Icecoldcoke | kd3: I believe that's how it is now.. |
| 00:57.23 | Duman | heh |
| 00:57.25 | Hirsute | Pretty sure that's the intent. |
| 00:57.38 | NeoTron | 50% cast speed reduction is insane though |
| 00:57.42 | Icecoldcoke | The current implementation makes healers get punished for healing. |
| 00:57.46 | Icecoldcoke | Or the old way. |
| 00:57.47 | Hirsute | To even tame it you have to have gone all the way to the end of the BM tree. |
| 00:58.17 | WobWork | um =) |
| 00:58.30 | WobWork | I doubt that the core hounds will keep the majoritiy of their innate debuffs |
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| 00:58.47 | Hirsute | Just that one. |
| 00:58.49 | WobWork | also, yes, laying down another trap will stop channeling |
| 00:58.52 | Icecoldcoke | SHAMAN CHANGES ARE HERE - Totem of Wrath - Percent sign removed, now does 160 spellpower bonus at max rank.... lol. |
| 00:58.59 | WobWork | but, if you lay down the second trap before you start, that will work |
| 00:59.21 | Hirsute | Laying doing the second will break the first. |
| 00:59.21 | WobWork | no it won't =) |
| 00:59.25 | WobWork | learn2chaintrap |
| 00:59.31 | Icecoldcoke | You can't trap core hounds... |
| 00:59.33 | Hirsute | I'm pretty sure they changed it so it does in 2.4.... |
| 00:59.39 | Hirsute | I could be wrong, though. |
| 00:59.51 | vithos | they made it so you can't trap multiple targets at once |
| 00:59.54 | WobWork | drop the first, wait til cooldown, trap mob. Drop the second, start taming |
| 01:00.11 | Hirsute | Yar, and with what Icecoldcoke said, it matters little in this circumstance anyway. |
| 01:00.12 | WobWork | wtf? |
| 01:00.22 | WobWork | I can multitrap |
| 01:00.30 | WobWork | aside from the unccablity of the hounds |
| 01:00.35 | vithos | they may have reverted it, i don't know |
| 01:00.37 | Hirsute | When was the last time you tried? |
| 01:00.39 | NeoTron | WobWork: that's their skill |
| 01:00.44 | WobWork | yeah |
| 01:00.53 | NeoTron | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=58611 |
| 01:00.54 | WobWork | but they're saying it's impossible to multitrap |
| 01:01.13 | WobWork | NeoTron: ah, yeah |
| 01:01.17 | Hirsute | Looking up the change.... |
| 01:01.27 | WobWork | hm, and you can chain apply it too =) |
| 01:01.30 | WobWork | nasty |
| 01:01.38 | Anaral | Hmm, I have no characters on Northrend... that better be a glitch. |
| 01:01.50 | kd3 | the realm select has been broken since alpha |
| 01:02.06 | NeoTron | it's kind of annoying since it keeps suggersting the pvp realm |
| 01:02.07 | End | nooo |
| 01:02.10 | End | world server is down |
| 01:02.10 | NeoTron | since it's listed as pve |
| 01:02.11 | bleeter | murmer hehe |
| 01:02.30 | Hirsute | Regarding double trapping: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/15/adieu-to-double-trapping/ |
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| 01:02.46 | kd3 | hirs; didn't that get pulled a few days later? |
| 01:03.26 | Hirsute | kd3: Don't think so... at least, when I fire-trapped a mob in Ramps the other day, it immediately broke the ice-trap I'd just layed down. |
| 01:04.28 | Hirsute | much to my chagrin |
| 01:04.30 | Icecoldcoke | I can't passed recieving chracter list /angry. |
| 01:04.43 | bleeter | Icecoldcoke: it's broke |
| 01:05.05 | Anaral | I've gotten past it once, and it showed zero characters and I could create a new one... |
| 01:05.10 | vithos | i just tested on live, double trapping works |
| 01:05.10 | Icecoldcoke | Lich King works fine.. as usual. |
| 01:05.20 | Duman | WHAT |
| 01:05.21 | vithos | they reverted it |
| 01:05.22 | Duman | up already? |
| 01:05.25 | Duman | bastards |
| 01:05.45 | WobWork | Hirsute: note, please the date on that article =P |
| 01:06.22 | bleeter | wsd |
| 01:06.37 | Duman | hmm |
| 01:06.38 | Hirsute | Noted the date... but it was just last week that it didn't work for me. It *could* have been chance, I suppose. |
| 01:06.44 | Duman | server up, but can't pull up char list |
| 01:07.29 | WobWork | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/21/upcoming-hunter-changes/ |
| 01:07.36 | NeoTron | what the heck is bloodthistle? is that the herb from the BE starting area? |
| 01:07.41 | Duman | yes |
| 01:07.55 | bleeter | and smv |
| 01:08.07 | Duman | smv?? |
| 01:08.28 | bleeter | quest down there, use some bloodthistle to distract a belf on the bridge |
| 01:08.35 | Duman | heh |
| 01:08.36 | bleeter | iirc |
| 01:08.53 | bleeter | coz they're all high on weed instead of pissed on beer like dwarves |
| 01:09.01 | Duman | cigaweed |
| 01:09.09 | kd3 | the hell? is the invasion event up? |
| 01:09.12 | WobWork | http://wow.wolfdragon.net/pet-o-licious-namerator/ |
| 01:09.16 | WobWork | hehe, what a great resource |
| 01:09.22 | NeoTron | you can actually mill that hebr |
| 01:09.22 | Duman | kd3: can you actually log in?? |
| 01:09.32 | NeoTron | I got the impression that it was much more common than normal herbs |
| 01:09.44 | kd3 | stuck at game server |
| 01:09.49 | bleeter | i heard ppl logging in, got kicked bac |
| 01:09.50 | Duman | same |
| 01:09.53 | kd3 | someone in general asked |
| 01:09.54 | Duman | can't pull up char list |
| 01:10.15 | Duman | oh hmm |
| 01:10.18 | Duman | I see it now |
| 01:10.20 | Icecoldcoke | World server down... and Im in stormwind |
| 01:10.29 | Anaral | Don't say that! |
| 01:10.40 | Anaral | I thought I'd be smart and log in there. |
| 01:11.13 | NeoTron | return to... the patch before the last? :P |
| 01:11.18 | Icecoldcoke | Log out in northrend... world server down |
| 01:11.48 | Mera | no mounts in cities -_- |
| 01:11.54 | Icecoldcoke | Log out in outlands... world server down. |
| 01:12.04 | NeoTron | Mera: wtf did they bring back an old patch? |
| 01:12.16 | kd3 | whee, char select |
| 01:12.16 | Duman | ok |
| 01:12.17 | Mera | worse than before im automaticaly dismounted on entering sw lol |
| 01:12.19 | Duman | Northrwend up |
| 01:12.19 | Anaral | So really it's the Universal server that is down |
| 01:12.21 | Duman | at least, I got in |
| 01:12.23 | Duman | -w |
| 01:12.25 | bleeter | NeoTron: different branches |
| 01:12.34 | Anaral | I hear people logging in... |
| 01:12.42 | Anaral | But still looking at the loading screen |
| 01:12.56 | Duman | heh |
| 01:12.59 | Mera | coldarra is up yet there was a lot of real first flood |
| 01:13.08 | Mera | realm first* |
| 01:13.10 | kd3 | crap. all of my copies are in northrend |
| 01:13.18 | Duman | world server down |
| 01:13.25 | Duman | HOO MAN |
| 01:13.32 | Anaral | Stormwind is down |
| 01:13.32 | Duman | on murmer ? |
| 01:13.51 | End | pff |
| 01:13.56 | End | need more gnome mages named kd3 |
| 01:13.58 | Duman | ooh, now stuck @ retrieving realm list |
| 01:14.13 | Duman | I thin kthey'll be resetting premade counts |
| 01:14.31 | kd3 | whoo, got in |
| 01:14.40 | kd3 | let's see if I make it through the cinematic |
| 01:14.42 | kd3 | ...nope |
| 01:15.02 | NeoTron | bleeter: blizzard has had a long history of re-adding bugs |
| 01:15.12 | Duman | kd3: which server? |
| 01:15.17 | kd3 | n'rend |
| 01:15.21 | Duman | ahh |
| 01:15.22 | Duman | oh, I loaded |
| 01:15.26 | Duman | ok, maybe not |
| 01:15.33 | bleeter | NeoTron: thy have a long history of differing branches and a weird approach to merges, aye ;) |
| 01:15.41 | Anaral | And yeah |
| 01:15.42 | Tekkub | I still say Northrend == Australia |
| 01:15.43 | Duman | I hear ppl logging in |
| 01:15.46 | Duman | heh |
| 01:15.49 | Duman | *thunk* |
| 01:15.50 | Duman | *thunk* |
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| 01:16.43 | Duman | I'm sort of curious why they removed ThreatMeter.lua... maybe it was just a POC that got left in by accident? :) |
| 01:16.54 | kd3 | whee! saw my broken UI for a half-second before the world server crashed again |
| 01:17.01 | Duman | kd3: same ;) |
| 01:17.06 | NeoTron | bleeter: if "weird" == broken, sure |
| 01:17.20 | bleeter | LK just dita |
| 01:18.07 | Tekkub | "weird" == I bet they use SVN |
| 01:18.13 | Tekkub | svn merging is such pain |
| 01:18.28 | bleeter | it's serial fer sure |
| 01:18.41 | Tekkub | aye |
| 01:18.43 | Duman | whoa... got booted back to char screen that time w/ no error |
| 01:18.52 | kd3 | whee. made it. |
| 01:19.00 | kd3 | let's see how far I can get |
| 01:19.05 | kd3 | 100 feet. yay |
| 01:19.07 | Tekkub | Duman, it's the degenrate triangles... with noone online all day they took over |
| 01:19.20 | Duman | LOL!! |
| 01:19.20 | Anaral | *waits for Storm Peaks to be 'untoggled' so she can log in. |
| 01:19.40 | Duman | heh |
| 01:19.53 | Duman | yes, sbo is my hero |
| 01:20.01 | Duman | he helps point out when I ~fail |
| 01:20.11 | Anaral | sbo make blizz get Northrend to work! |
| 01:20.44 | bleeter | do eerr |
| 01:20.46 | bleeter | eet |
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| 01:21.00 | Duman | hopefully I'll be able to grind inscriptions to 475 when it comes back up |
| 01:21.01 | Icecoldcoketwo | I don't think it's storm peaks since outlands, northrend, eastern kingdoms, and kalimdor all crash. |
| 01:21.02 | Duman | err 450 |
| 01:21.03 | Duman | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:21.22 | Ackis | duman, you da man! |
| 01:21.35 | Duman | I'll make ppl whatever they wayt |
| 01:21.37 | Duman | *want |
| 01:21.46 | Duman | I re-copied my warrior who has a stockpile of herbs |
| 01:21.51 | Duman | (at least, outlands herbs) |
| 01:21.52 | Icecoldcoketwo | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9679888022&sid=2000 |
| 01:21.54 | Icecoldcoketwo | Interesting. |
| 01:21.57 | bleeter | ppl are suggesting on the forums it's the even crashing it |
| 01:21.58 | Anaral | What is your inscriptions at right now? |
| 01:22.06 | bleeter | Icecoldcoketwo: yeah, that |
| 01:22.08 | Duman | 300/300 |
| 01:22.09 | bleeter | *event |
| 01:22.25 | Duman | coulnd't go any higher last patch |
| 01:23.34 | |pez| | ... Are there any CSS gurus around? :P I've got a really weird case... |
| 01:23.42 | kd3 | argent healer at the spawn spot. huh |
| 01:24.13 | bleeter | gah, lvl 1 human was in for 4 second |
| 01:24.15 | kd3 | nooo~ 10 feet away from an npc I could've talked to to save my progress |
| 01:24.34 | bleeter | kd3: it wuz U! |
| 01:25.00 | Dashkal | ooo, they want to get rid of feral attack power. I'd love to see how they accomplish that one. GC is right, it feels strange in this landscape |
| 01:25.24 | Icecoldcoketwo | They changed the model on the weapon from the first boss in UK |
| 01:25.47 | Dashkal | before people get up about it, GC also says it won't happen for WotLK launch, quite possibly 4.x |
| 01:26.20 | Ackis | beta down? |
| 01:26.29 | Tekkub | down the hole |
| 01:26.29 | bleeter | very |
| 01:26.35 | kd3 | invasion event's making the world servers crash |
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| 01:26.36 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v Legorol] by ChanServ |
| 01:26.41 | Duman | kd3: which spawn pt |
| 01:26.46 | kd3 | human |
| 01:26.53 | Duman | woo |
| 01:26.54 | Duman | logged int |
| 01:26.56 | Duman | kd3: name? |
| 01:27.02 | kd3 | foobarbaz |
| 01:27.23 | Duman | uh |
| 01:27.26 | Duman | no such player? |
| 01:27.31 | Tekkub | http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/graphs/impact |
| 01:27.32 | Tekkub | hehe |
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| 01:27.46 | kd3 | I blame the char database thrashing |
| 01:27.54 | Duman | on n'rend yeah? |
| 01:27.58 | kd3 | ya |
| 01:28.13 | Duman | LOL |
| 01:28.19 | Duman | I just tried to add you as a friend |
| 01:28.21 | Duman | and it booted me |
| 01:28.25 | kd3 | lol |
| 01:28.58 | Duman | world server down |
| 01:29.34 | kd3 | apparently patchwerk's on the loose up there |
| 01:29.34 | Duman | heh |
| 01:29.40 | Duman | hmm |
| 01:29.44 | Dashkal | I wonder why the crash tool collects my computer's name. |
| 01:29.49 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9679888022&sid=2000#9 |
| 01:30.30 | Duman | LOL |
| 01:30.42 | Duman | I think the invasion's spawn oints are 'colliding" with the DK stuff |
| 01:30.47 | Duman | *points |
| 01:33.22 | Duman | grr the forums piss me off... for some reason my "other" Duman is the default (with the <Zerg> tag) and I have to switch every time |
| 01:35.05 | ScytheBlade1 | What is this invasion? (supposedly) |
| 01:36.02 | kd3 | think naxx |
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| 01:36.17 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v Cide] by ChanServ |
| 01:36.25 | Icecoldcoke | Well that makes me feel better, Lich King is dead too. |
| 01:36.26 | Duman | the scourge invasion |
| 01:37.30 | ScytheBlade1 | heh, again? ;) |
| 01:37.30 | Dashkal | Meh, I really hope they can turn that damn thing off. I don't want another week of don't bother trying to test anyth.... World Server Down |
| 01:37.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Well |
| 01:37.42 | kd3 | I want to be a fly on the wall in the server room atm |
| 01:37.45 | ScytheBlade1 | It's not like scourge invasions are new to the lore, so |
| 01:37.52 | Duman | kd3: :) |
| 01:37.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I suppose /another one/ would be cool |
| 01:38.30 | Icecoldcoke | The server room is empty. They decided to throw the servers into the trash where they belong while they buy ones that are stable |
| 01:38.33 | Duman | I'd still rather be a fly on the wall during the dev/designer discussions :) |
| 01:38.49 | Duman | I don't think the stability issues are the fault of the hardware :) |
| 01:39.10 | Icecoldcoke | I think it is. |
| 01:39.30 | Icecoldcoke | If they had hardware that could survive an extremely buggy even then they wouldnt be crashing. |
| 01:39.51 | Dashkal | I think it was up for a moment there... |
| 01:40.03 | kd3 | how the hell does hardware handle software stupidity? |
| 01:40.13 | Dashkal | Icecoldcoke: you don't do much programming do you... |
| 01:40.15 | kd3 | I don't think my quadcore can prevent me from dividing by zero and crashing |
| 01:40.20 | Duman | lol |
| 01:40.33 | Dashkal | wtb pc that makes my code 'just work' |
| 01:40.53 | bleeter | heh, i've never seen so many folks in shat on the beta before |
| 01:40.59 | Shirik | Intel processor can do that Dashkal |
| 01:41.02 | Shirik | for some definition of "just work" |
| 01:41.04 | Dashkal | Shirik lol |
| 01:41.12 | Dashkal | Well, I'm converting in Nov so sounds good :p |
| 01:41.14 | Shirik | You can mask all of the interrupts |
| 01:41.21 | Icecoldcoke | I do tons of programming, I am the lead programmer for some amazing company that doesn't really exist, and I make millions of dollars each day. |
| 01:41.22 | Shirik | So you get no segfaults, no div/0 errors |
| 01:41.30 | Duman | NMI ! |
| 01:41.30 | Shirik | you just get.... interesting code |
| 01:41.37 | Shirik | segfault isn't NMI is it? |
| 01:41.45 | Dashkal | Shirik I can think of a MUD or two that I'd love to run that way :p |
| 01:41.48 | Duman | not unless the kernel segfaults |
| 01:42.10 | Shirik | Supervisory mode can mask it I believe |
| 01:42.16 | Shirik | not user mode for obvious reasons |
| 01:42.31 | kd3 | c'mon death gate! |
| 01:42.42 | kd3 | no npcs in valiance keep |
| 01:42.47 | Duman | dumped |
| 01:42.48 | Dashkal | At least on linux, I can catch SIGSEG and just return as though nothing happened. Not quite the same I know but... |
| 01:43.44 | Dashkal | There are times that I really wished I could get away with doing just that. Stupid memory corruption issues |
| 01:43.56 | bleeter | must be time for tim tam and coffee |
| 01:44.27 | Dashkal | ok, gonna nab some food. beta is a lost cause atm |
| 01:56.39 | Duman | man |
| 01:56.43 | Duman | outlands isn't even staying up |
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| 02:00.55 | Shirik | I get annoyed at SIGSEGV on x86, actually, Dashkal |
| 02:01.07 | Shirik | because Linux just assumes a GPF is a "segmentation fault" |
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| 02:01.19 | Shirik | so does Windows (though they call it an Access Violation, which is closer to the truth) |
| 02:01.59 | Duman | lol man... the world servers are up just long enough for me to log in and then *plink* |
| 02:02.26 | Shirik | plink |
| 02:02.33 | Shirik | that's a technical term? |
| 02:02.41 | Icecoldcoke | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:02.44 | Icecoldcoke | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 02:02.59 | Icecoldcoke | and 10player. |
| 02:06.44 | Dashkal | We can take out PvP geared butts into nax for a bit :p |
| 02:07.12 | Anaral | Dashkal, they deleted our premade pvp butts |
| 02:07.14 | bleeter | once the copy count is reset and we get through the premade queue |
| 02:07.27 | kd3 | woot. template copies are fixed |
| 02:07.29 | Dashkal | Anaral: they will most probably reset those so we can copy into the premade |
| 02:07.32 | kd3 | https://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/templatecopy/character-copy.html |
| 02:07.46 | Duman | Copies Remaining: 3 |
| 02:07.51 | Duman | Average Wait Time: 1 hour |
| 02:07.52 | Duman | yay |
| 02:08.22 | Duman | and.. hmm |
| 02:08.25 | Sargeras | yeah |
| 02:08.27 | Dashkal | Ok, wtf happened to my 3 remaining live->beta transfers? |
| 02:08.30 | Anaral | Hey! They took away one of my regular transfers. I had one left yesterday now I have zero. :( |
| 02:08.31 | Sargeras | I'm getting that error too |
| 02:08.37 | Duman | gah |
| 02:08.38 | kd3 | they're in the regular copy, not the template copy |
| 02:08.42 | Duman | the copy me button no worky |
| 02:08.57 | Duman | unless my browser is on crank |
| 02:09.00 | kd3 | go back to step 1. both links for step 2 work there. no place else |
| 02:09.17 | Sargeras | wtf |
| 02:09.20 | kd3 | https://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/charcopy/character-copy.html vs https://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/templatecopy/character-copy.html |
| 02:09.23 | bleeter | kd3: you going horde PvP? |
| 02:09.24 | Sargeras | I had no copy left from my other toons |
| 02:09.35 | Sargeras | ohhh |
| 02:09.40 | Anaral | Err, it keeps just giving me the confirmation page... |
| 02:09.52 | Icecoldcoke | Wow violet hold open too |
| 02:09.53 | Dashkal | same |
| 02:10.12 | bleeter | same |
| 02:10.32 | Dashkal | and hitting "character" as opposed to "template" does NOT make my normal copies come back. not ready yet I'm betting |
| 02:10.41 | kd3 | dash; scroll up |
| 02:10.48 | kd3 | [22:09:00] <kd3> go back to step 1. both links for step 2 work there. no place else |
| 02:11.06 | Dashkal | ahh, missed that. point stands |
| 02:11.41 | Sargeras | "Are you SURE..." |
| 02:11.44 | Sargeras | "yes" |
| 02:11.45 | Sargeras | "Are you SURE..." |
| 02:11.47 | Sargeras | "yes" |
| 02:11.48 | Sargeras | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:11.48 | Duman | hehe yeah |
| 02:11.50 | Duman | not working |
| 02:12.57 | Duman | lol |
| 02:13.04 | Duman | people are saying the town NPCs are attacking DKs |
| 02:14.44 | Anaral | kd3: Pages are fubarred |
| 02:15.09 | Dashkal | Nifty. Engine code for Heretic/Hexen released under the GPLv2 |
| 02:15.22 | kd3 | then there's nothing I can do... |
| 02:15.34 | Sargeras | finally |
| 02:15.35 | Sargeras | got in beta |
| 02:15.40 | Tekkub | http://www.flickr.com/photos/26681170@N03/2832234408/ |
| 02:15.42 | Tekkub | I WIN! |
| 02:16.03 | Sargeras | hey |
| 02:16.05 | Sargeras | new pet |
| 02:16.31 | Duman | Last Stand cooldown reduced from 6 minutes to 5 minutes. |
| 02:16.32 | Duman | heh |
| 02:16.49 | Duman | OH SHIZ |
| 02:16.52 | Duman | DK glyphs are in |
| 02:17.20 | Dashkal | ooo, can't even log into northrend at all "Logging into game server". *crosses fingers* |
| 02:17.30 | Duman | Glyph of Strangulate - Increases the range of your Strangulate by 20 yards. |
| 02:17.31 | Duman | holy crap |
| 02:18.04 | Duman | Glyph of Death Grip - Increases the cooldown of Death Grip by 10 sec but stuns targets for 1 sec. |
| 02:18.06 | Duman | o.O |
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| 02:18.12 | Duman | I assume stunned after the pull |
| 02:19.22 | Duman | heh... lots of "your XXX ability no longer requires a reagent"... I assume those will be minor glyphs |
| 02:19.44 | ScytheBlade1 | I hope |
| 02:19.45 | kd3 | looks like they updated the scarlet enclave load graphic again |
| 02:19.47 | Duman | wait, what: Glyph of the Warhorse - Reduces the casting time of your Summon Charger and Summon Warhorse spells by 1 sec. |
| 02:20.25 | Duman | Glyph of Blurred Speed - Enables you to walk on water while your Sprint ability is active. |
| 02:20.27 | Duman | hah! |
| 02:20.59 | Duman | I wonder if you can have multiple of the same glyph |
| 02:21.07 | Duman | I forgot to try that |
| 02:21.25 | Icecoldcoke | Hmm.. server seems to be getting a tiny bit more stable |
| 02:21.29 | Duman | orly? |
| 02:21.40 | Icecoldcoke | I was able to pick up 3 wintergrasp dailies and say hi bff before the server crashed |
| 02:23.22 | Dashkal | THEY MADE A CUPCAKE! |
| 02:23.30 | Dashkal | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/september/cooking_8905.jpg |
| 02:27.15 | Sargeras | I has a friend: http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/2167/chillytz4.jpg |
| 02:27.16 | ScytheBlade1 | As a mage |
| 02:27.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I 100% endorse those cooking recipes |
| 02:28.05 | ScytheBlade1 | and lol @ the last lines, hahaha |
| 02:28.14 | Dashkal | But aren't mage tables the only reason your class exists anymore? :p |
| 02:28.42 | Dashkal | sorry, had to be done |
| 02:29.17 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't even care |
| 02:29.23 | ScytheBlade1 | QUIT ASKING ME FOR A TABLE YOU'RE NOT GETTING ONE |
| 02:29.42 | bleeter | l2cook nub |
| 02:29.51 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm also a 375 cook |
| 02:30.53 | Dashkal | Savrine is 375/375. She's going to see 80 anyway if only to keep those skills |
| 02:32.34 | Dashkal | Death Knights: When the server stops choking on its own entrails, you _must_ go back to Ebon Hold. So says the mighty GhostCrawler |
| 02:32.48 | ScytheBlade1 | o_o |
| 02:32.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Link? I'm curious |
| 02:32.55 | Dashkal | And yes, I do capitalIze letters randomly |
| 02:32.59 | Sargeras | Furor said the other night that they finished up the rest of the quests there |
| 02:33.02 | Dashkal | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/18/9679628072-note-major-death-knight-quest-change.html |
| 02:33.10 | Duman | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:33.10 | Duman | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9679628072&sid=2000 |
| 02:33.49 | ScytheBlade1 | "If any of you have been to those cities, you'll know what I mean. " |
| 02:33.52 | ScytheBlade1 | hahhahahahahahhaha |
| 02:33.59 | Duman | yeah, see what I said earlier? :) |
| 02:34.03 | Duman | [07:13PM] > people are saying the town NPCs are attacking DKs |
| 02:34.11 | ScytheBlade1 | I missed that |
| 02:34.16 | ScytheBlade1 | But from that line alone... win |
| 02:34.30 | WobWork | hm |
| 02:34.34 | Duman | yeah :) |
| 02:34.40 | Duman | ~Ghostcrawler++ |
| 02:35.06 | WobWork | if anyone feels reminiscent whatsoever about old Id games.... http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=518670 |
| 02:36.30 | Sargeras | Furor said he thoroughly enjoyed it |
| 02:36.39 | Sargeras | so this must be what he was talking about |
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| 02:37.40 | Dashkal | Well, I made it into my death gate, but the server still has a TTL measured in seconds |
| 02:37.52 | Dashkal | I'm getting the impression they might have to patch again |
| 02:38.26 | Duman | grr @ world server |
| 02:38.47 | Sargeras | same |
| 02:38.49 | Sargeras | lol |
| 02:38.53 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:38.56 | ScytheBlade1 | <3 |
| 02:39.25 | Duman | err, what? |
| 02:39.29 | Duman | "from targets ... " ? |
| 02:39.42 | Duman | so when you're dying, you kick in faces? |
| 02:39.51 | Cide | probably means it does 6/12% extra damage from 35 to 20, and 10/20% from then on |
| 02:40.01 | Cide | and whoever typed that sucks ass |
| 02:40.04 | Duman | LOL |
| 02:40.17 | Mikk | erm |
| 02:40.21 | Mikk | it's the talent ranks |
| 02:40.23 | Mikk | knobbheads |
| 02:40.29 | Mikk | rank 1: 6%, rank 2: 12% |
| 02:40.33 | Duman | keep reading |
| 02:40.39 | Cide | yeah |
| 02:40.43 | Cide | you knobbhead Mikk |
| 02:41.24 | End | gasp, it's letting my log in? |
| 02:41.25 | Mikk | aho yeah that's busted. that "from" should probably be a "and" |
| 02:41.51 | End | nope, world server down! D: |
| 02:41.55 | WobWork | End: That's what happens when you push hard |
| 02:42.03 | WobWork | your log was too big =P |
| 02:42.43 | Shirik | ~dict heigth |
| 02:42.50 | End | height? |
| 02:42.54 | Shirik | shh, no |
| 02:43.07 | Shirik | yelling at someone who called it heigth here :P |
| 02:43.58 | End | gasp |
| 02:44.04 | End | wtf |
| 02:44.07 | End | they changed the video ui |
| 02:44.15 | Shirik | ~dict highth |
| 02:44.21 | Dashkal | Alrighty, finally got a peek at the death knight bit |
| 02:44.26 | Duman | LOL |
| 02:44.31 | End | uh, how do I change my ui scale? >_> |
| 02:44.39 | End | ah nvm |
| 02:44.40 | End | found it |
| 02:44.42 | Dashkal | How are we supposed to do runeforging with patchwerk running about up there? |
| 02:44.50 | End | yaaaaayyy! |
| 02:44.52 | Duman | where the shit do we train now |
| 02:44.57 | End | my head doesn't have a bat over it! |
| 02:45.01 | End | I'm not purpley! |
| 02:45.03 | Dashkal | Duman: Darion will train you |
| 02:45.11 | Duman | top or bottom floor? |
| 02:45.14 | Dashkal | Bottom |
| 02:45.16 | Duman | k |
| 02:45.20 | Dashkal | "Highlord, I require training" |
| 02:45.23 | End | oh |
| 02:45.24 | End | fuck |
| 02:45.28 | End | it unlearned my talents |
| 02:45.29 | End | that's why |
| 02:45.34 | Duman | lol |
| 02:45.42 | Duman | yes, talent reset for * |
| 02:45.52 | Dashkal | potential cause? [HUGE BUG] Unholy Blight is DCing http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9679738099&sid=2000 |
| 02:47.20 | Duman | heh |
| 02:47.22 | Sargeras | Kalgan - "In fact, the next update (not today's) will have a large number of changes to racials." |
| 02:47.24 | End | fuck |
| 02:47.25 | End | yeah |
| 02:47.25 | Duman | doubt it |
| 02:47.29 | End | I have a bat on my head again |
| 02:47.31 | End | goddammit! |
| 02:47.36 | Duman | you're batman! |
| 02:47.46 | End | why so serious? |
| 02:47.58 | End | world server down! |
| 02:48.11 | Duman | ~fail World server |
| 02:48.11 | purl | World server: FAIL! |
| 02:50.59 | Duman | I can't even log in long enough to talk to a trainer, heh |
| 02:51.25 | End | I should just give up |
| 02:51.28 | End | there aren't even any npcs |
| 02:51.30 | Icecoldcoke | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:51.35 | *** join/#wowuidev Corgan (n=Corgan@cpe-66-91-6-220.hawaii.res.rr.com) |
| 02:52.03 | ScytheBlade1 | I really hope the premade only realm(s) go live quickly |
| 02:52.08 | ScytheBlade1 | wts retards on the other servers |
| 02:53.50 | Neuro_Medivh | I still can't believe they misspelled Murmur |
| 02:55.44 | End | Chilly the Penguin? |
| 02:56.18 | bleeter | Neuro_Medivh: I wonder if the failuer to template copy chars is related ;) |
| 02:56.24 | bleeter | hhaha... ... failure |
| 02:56.39 | Anaral | End: I think he's cute. |
| 02:56.55 | Anaral | Though I am kind of confused as to what sort of gift he is. |
| 02:57.09 | bleeter | the mail with the eggs says for converting to a blizz account |
| 02:57.18 | Duman | ARGH |
| 02:57.22 | End | yeah |
| 02:57.27 | Dashkal | 8/10 before it died |
| 02:57.35 | Anaral | and what does that mean, smarty pants |
| 02:57.35 | Duman | it's going to roll back again :( |
| 02:57.39 | Dashkal | It'll improve as we all GTFO that starting area |
| 02:57.40 | Duman | we should group up |
| 02:57.42 | End | I guess they have to leave in the old auth system for a while |
| 02:57.50 | End | but they want people to convert |
| 02:57.52 | Dashkal | Sounds good, throw the invites, Duman |
| 02:57.59 | End | so they give you a penguin for converting :) |
| 02:58.05 | Anaral | ah. |
| 02:58.28 | Anaral | So um, will we get penguins on live for converting? |
| 02:58.33 | End | probably |
| 02:58.42 | Anaral | Cool |
| 02:58.57 | End | I'm just speculating here, but that's what it sounds like |
| 03:00.12 | Neuro_Medivh | what converting are you refering to? |
| 03:00.18 | Anaral | Can anyone confirm whether you get the penguin on all characters or just one per realm? |
| 03:00.18 | Neuro_Medivh | did I miss something? |
| 03:00.33 | End | you know how you had to create a temp. blizz account? |
| 03:00.57 | End | basically I think they're trying to centralize the account system |
| 03:01.54 | Anaral | So that means my permanent blizz account will turn into my main account come LK release? Or will I have to create another 'game' blizz account? |
| 03:03.45 | Neuro_Medivh | Hmm, I'm curious about this whole "you must finish your starting area DK quests" thing. How were people getting out of the start area WITHOUT finishing? |
| 03:03.49 | Neuro_Medivh | summons? |
| 03:03.51 | duaiwe | wait, penguins, converting, what? |
| 03:04.03 | Neuro_Medivh | I'm with you, nighthawk |
| 03:04.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Server stabalized at all? |
| 03:04.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, relatively |
| 03:04.18 | Neuro_Medivh | apparently we're supposed to convert ourselves into penguins, only it doesn't work yet |
| 03:06.07 | Duman | great |
| 03:06.10 | Dashkal | You had to say it |
| 03:06.11 | Duman | I shouldn't have siad that |
| 03:06.12 | Duman | LOL |
| 03:06.32 | Dashkal | ok, food time |
| 03:07.08 | ScytheBlade1 | So this is probably old news but |
| 03:07.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Smelt Elementium must be relearned by players who still wish to know the spell by visiting a trainer in Blackwing Lair. |
| 03:07.13 | ScytheBlade1 | WHAT, WHY? |
| 03:07.13 | ScytheBlade1 | =[ |
| 03:07.18 | End | wow |
| 03:07.23 | End | new cookie recipies are awesome |
| 03:07.27 | End | Bad Clames |
| 03:07.32 | End | Use: Bad Clams make you angry |
| 03:07.36 | End | Tasty Cupcake |
| 03:07.41 | End | Use: Cupcakes make you happy. |
| 03:08.07 | Neuro_Medivh | I could go for a cookie right now |
| 03:10.12 | bleeter | hahahaha http://rynamcbegg.googlepages.com/angrycrab.jpg |
| 03:10.32 | End | hahahaha |
| 03:10.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Duman: I REFUSE! |
| 03:10.58 | ScytheBlade1 | btw |
| 03:11.00 | Duman | ARGH |
| 03:11.01 | ScytheBlade1 | World Server is Down |
| 03:11.03 | Duman | yes |
| 03:11.06 | Duman | just assploded |
| 03:11.25 | End | zomg |
| 03:11.46 | ScytheBlade1 | ... so, I join some random channel here |
| 03:11.49 | ScytheBlade1 | First thing I see |
| 03:11.51 | ScytheBlade1 | < Dougy> dude i just took a piss for the ages |
| 03:11.58 | Ackis | wtf I just got a penguin pet |
| 03:12.13 | End | Anaral: yes |
| 03:12.15 | End | oops |
| 03:12.17 | End | Ackis: ues |
| 03:12.19 | End | jgdfjgfd |
| 03:12.41 | End | Ackis: yes, you and everyone else |
| 03:12.42 | End | there |
| 03:12.43 | Ackis | use two hands to type |
| 03:12.45 | Ackis | :P |
| 03:12.48 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 03:12.52 | Ackis | that's cool |
| 03:12.55 | End | I wasn't using any hands to type |
| 03:13.01 | Ackis | ohh penis typing? |
| 03:13.07 | End | something like that |
| 03:13.13 | kd3 | whee. LK scarlet enclave crashed |
| 03:13.13 | Ackis | I use that for my space bar |
| 03:13.31 | End | ok, maybe...I'll play live some or something |
| 03:13.47 | Ackis | kd3: all of the pvp server died |
| 03:13.49 | Anaral | End: Which part is the yes. :p |
| 03:14.04 | End | Anaral: MIS...uh...tab |
| 03:14.14 | Ackis | yes oh yes ohhhhh yes ahhhh |
| 03:14.21 | Anaral | Huh? |
| 03:14.21 | End | ~lart Ackis |
| 03:14.21 | purl | pushes the wall down onto Ackis whilst whistling innocently |
| 03:14.24 | kd3 | http://rynamcbegg.googlepages.com/angrycrab.jpg |
| 03:14.26 | Ackis | btw, it's possible to get a headache from smiling to much |
| 03:14.27 | kd3 | rofl |
| 03:14.42 | End | Anaral: I was using autocomplete, and tabbed to the wrong person |
| 03:14.53 | Anaral | Ah |
| 03:14.58 | Ackis | I haven't stopped msiling all day and my head is hurting a lot now |
| 03:15.04 | bleeter | kd3: 'tis a great bug, that ;) |
| 03:15.17 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 03:15.18 | ScytheBlade1 | hahahaha |
| 03:15.21 | ScytheBlade1 | log in |
| 03:15.26 | ScytheBlade1 | stuck on loading screen for ~2m |
| 03:15.28 | Sargeras | I did |
| 03:15.32 | ScytheBlade1 | I see the world for about four seconds |
| 03:15.34 | Sargeras | and got booted after I spent my talentss |
| 03:15.35 | ScytheBlade1 | WORLD SERVER IS DOWN |
| 03:16.02 | Sargeras | I made this back the day BC went live: http;//youarenotprepared.ytmnd.com |
| 03:16.06 | Sargeras | errr |
| 03:16.21 | Sargeras | http://youarenotprepared.ytmnd.com |
| 03:17.52 | Ackis | Ambassador Ackis... AA ahahahha |
| 03:18.25 | End | are you friend of cenarious too? |
| 03:18.28 | Ackis | yes |
| 03:18.30 | Ackis | and diplomat |
| 03:18.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Also no NPCs |
| 03:18.34 | ScytheBlade1 | =[ |
| 03:18.43 | End | I'd be diplomat if re-copied my character |
| 03:18.47 | Ackis | 9 titles right now |
| 03:19.09 | End | uh, Iguess I haven't done 3000 quests... |
| 03:19.23 | End | I didn't have the seeker title when I looked |
| 03:19.47 | Anaral | I saw my mail before I got kicked that time. |
| 03:19.52 | Ackis | oh wow, complete 580 quests in Easteran Kingdoms and 715 in Kalimdor |
| 03:20.04 | Anaral | Wow, that's new. |
| 03:20.12 | End | oh? |
| 03:20.22 | End | I'd look if it wasn't crashing every 15 seconds |
| 03:20.42 | Ackis | there's a loremaster title for doing those two, loreamster of outland and loremaster of nothrend |
| 03:21.01 | End | I've got the achievements for outland I think |
| 03:21.14 | devXero | Spore! |
| 03:21.14 | Anaral | If you get all three are you a Grand Loremaster? |
| 03:21.16 | End | there's only two quests I know of I haven't done though, so... :P |
| 03:21.23 | Ackis | Anaral: all 4 |
| 03:21.45 | End | actually it's a bit more than 2 I guess, since it's...wow |
| 03:21.51 | Anaral | Ah, misunderstood. But still. |
| 03:21.54 | End | so, I said I'd look if it wasn't crashing |
| 03:21.54 | Duman | ARGH |
| 03:21.59 | End | I didn't mean I wouldn't try to look |
| 03:22.03 | Ackis | lol |
| 03:22.14 | End | yeah, I got in, and then it crashed immediately |
| 03:22.18 | Ackis | Anaral: loremaster of eastern kingdoms, of kalimdor, outland and nothrend |
| 03:22.25 | *** join/#wowuidev Nom- (n=nom@standen.id.au) |
| 03:24.06 | Duman | ooh |
| 03:24.14 | Duman | they already started to change old itemization |
| 03:24.18 | Duman | *old gear |
| 03:24.30 | Duman | http://www.tankspot.com/photoplog/images/2749/1_newtankgear.jpg |
| 03:24.39 | End | ahh |
| 03:24.42 | End | 2447/3000 quests |
| 03:24.46 | Sargeras | they changed the mongoose enchant graphic >< |
| 03:25.02 | End | yeah, I have like 200 quests to do |
| 03:25.06 | End | for each continent |
| 03:25.09 | End | :X |
| 03:25.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Duman: tell those in guild to NOT EVER LAND ON THE AIRSHIPS |
| 03:25.17 | *** join/#wowuidev nymbia (n=nymbia@c-67-190-49-185.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 03:25.27 | Duman | lawl |
| 03:25.33 | ScytheBlade1 | No, really |
| 03:25.35 | Duman | sbo: heh |
| 03:25.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Insta DC |
| 03:25.36 | Dashkal | sorta. Wrynn has the new text, but I'm still getting bananas |
| 03:25.44 | Duman | well, the server is poofing constantly |
| 03:25.52 | Duman | Dashkal walked next to me and BOOM |
| 03:25.52 | ScytheBlade1 | No, this was not a server poof |
| 03:26.01 | Dashkal | I'm about ready to throw in the towel and play live |
| 03:26.02 | ScytheBlade1 | This was a "You're getting DC'd" |
| 03:26.08 | Duman | sbo: ahh |
| 03:26.41 | Neuro_Medivh | wow... didn't even last long enough to cast Death Gate |
| 03:27.03 | bleeter | Dashkal: yup.. i'm thinking they've prolly got enough core dumps to start looking at stuffs ;) |
| 03:27.13 | End | yeah |
| 03:27.14 | End | no kidding |
| 03:27.17 | ScytheBlade1 | here is to hoping, heh |
| 03:27.33 | ScytheBlade1 | "I told you to quit divinding by zero!" "I JUST COULDN'T HELP IT!" |
| 03:27.40 | Anaral | Heh |
| 03:28.04 | ScytheBlade1 | s/divinding/dividing/ |
| 03:28.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Also, I found the Scarlet Onslaught |
| 03:29.07 | *** join/#wowuidev rufus__ (n=rufus@c-98-226-41-174.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 03:29.11 | kd3 | they've got a camp northwest of icecrown |
| 03:29.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 03:29.19 | ScytheBlade1 | An entire harbor |
| 03:29.34 | kd3 | is icecrown open? |
| 03:29.36 | ScytheBlade1 | seen the airships yet, kd3? |
| 03:29.37 | ScytheBlade1 | It is |
| 03:29.42 | ScytheBlade1 | The server is crashtastic though |
| 03:29.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I just lucked out and am technically DC'd, but my client doesn't know it |
| 03:29.58 | ScytheBlade1 | And won't know it for quite a while |
| 03:33.36 | bleeter | someone was saying, just before the dc, that it's icecrown causing the dcs |
| 03:33.43 | ScytheBlade1 | okay rofl irl |
| 03:33.44 | ScytheBlade1 | hahahaha |
| 03:33.51 | ScytheBlade1 | I won't spoil this BUY |
| 03:33.53 | ScytheBlade1 | *BUT |
| 03:34.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Whomever can fly and get to Icecrown |
| 03:34.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Fly underneath the alliance airship |
| 03:36.30 | Duman | dashkal: yeah I took it |
| 03:36.39 | Duman | (client is frozen whlie stoning) |
| 03:36.42 | Dashkal | lemme know if it works |
| 03:36.43 | Duman | is DRM still broke? |
| 03:36.44 | Duman | ahh ok |
| 03:36.45 | Duman | hehe |
| 03:36.52 | Dashkal | You get to be my test dummy :p |
| 03:37.56 | Duman | ARGH |
| 03:37.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Note to self |
| 03:38.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Don't login |
| 03:38.01 | bleeter | weeeeeeee |
| 03:38.06 | Duman | the instant I get on the bird to dalaran |
| 03:38.07 | Anaral | For crying out loud! |
| 03:38.10 | Duman | *crash* |
| 03:38.24 | Anaral | *goes to get a tub of icecream* |
| 03:38.28 | ScytheBlade1 | I sense a memory leak |
| 03:38.30 | Duman | mmm, ice cream |
| 03:38.37 | Duman | I sense a something is broken :P |
| 03:38.38 | ScytheBlade1 | About 5 minutes and it OOMs |
| 03:38.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Tops |
| 03:39.25 | Duman | I wonder if they buffed prot warriors "too much" |
| 03:39.28 | Duman | I'm gonna have to see how things go |
| 03:41.20 | Anaral | "Can I login now?" "How about now?" |
| 03:42.34 | Duman | sigh |
| 03:42.37 | Duman | down again |
| 03:42.38 | ScytheBlade1 | If I didn't know any better I'd say that I'm crashing the server |
| 03:42.51 | Duman | well, try it again the next time it comes up |
| 03:42.55 | Anaral | It's like I can do one thing and then the server goes poof. |
| 03:42.56 | Duman | it could be you *shrug* |
| 03:43.05 | Dashkal | Don't bother learning your talents... gone again |
| 03:43.06 | Duman | I knwo it's not me, since I'm on a bird ;) |
| 03:43.09 | ScytheBlade1 | The problem is |
| 03:43.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Uh |
| 03:43.13 | Duman | dashkal: mine stayed |
| 03:43.17 | ScytheBlade1 | If it is what I think it is |
| 03:43.19 | Tekkub | "Dude, you know what would be funny, lets make it so whenever someon etruns in a certain quest in this zone, everyone on the server disconnects" |
| 03:43.21 | ScytheBlade1 | EVERYONE is going to be crashing the server |
| 03:43.21 | Dashkal | hrm |
| 03:43.31 | Tekkub | "That'll show this whiney bitches" |
| 03:43.33 | Ackis | ok did I fuck up |
| 03:43.38 | Duman | dashkal: relog after you train them |
| 03:43.43 | Duman | to force a checkpoint |
| 03:43.48 | Dashkal | already on it |
| 03:43.49 | Duman | (next time the server is back) |
| 03:43.52 | Duman | oh? hmm |
| 03:43.54 | Dashkal | getting the idea that I need to save like hell :p |
| 03:43.57 | Ackis | foo(array) dostuff that changes array -> is the array that I passed changed? |
| 03:44.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Ackis: er what language? |
| 03:44.19 | End | Ackis: yes? |
| 03:44.20 | Ackis | lua |
| 03:44.29 | ScytheBlade1 | All tables are passed by reference in lua |
| 03:44.45 | Duman | sbo: server back |
| 03:44.48 | Duman | sbo: try crashing it |
| 03:44.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Already logging back in |
| 03:44.56 | ScytheBlade1 | I heard you login too ;) |
| 03:45.00 | Duman | :) |
| 03:45.12 | Ackis | ScytheBlade1: Ok that's what I thought I just wanted to make sure because stuff I'm doing isn't being done |
| 03:45.29 | Anaral | *sighs* And no NPCs |
| 03:45.31 | Tekkub | no that was me |
| 03:45.38 | Duman | hmm |
| 03:45.42 | Duman | UI not loading |
| 03:45.49 | Duman | stuck @ full loading bar |
| 03:46.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Did it just crash now? |
| 03:46.15 | Sargeras | go to a city in Azeroth |
| 03:46.15 | *** join/#wowuidev Bibi (n=Bibi@unaffiliated/bibi) |
| 03:46.15 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v Bibi] by ChanServ |
| 03:46.18 | Duman | nope |
| 03:46.21 | Duman | I just logged in finally |
| 03:46.22 | Duman | hah |
| 03:46.24 | Sargeras | and watch the NPC's get pissy |
| 03:46.36 | Tekkub | it's just the 2-min login, I've hit that a number of times |
| 03:46.40 | Sargeras | they changed the way NPC's handle DK's before they do the new quests |
| 03:46.51 | Sargeras | they're getting chased, jeered, fruit thrown at them |
| 03:46.56 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 03:47.14 | Tekkub | YOUR DK DOESN'T SCARE ME FRUIT VENDOR |
| 03:47.19 | End | haha |
| 03:47.20 | Arrowmaster | ROFL |
| 03:47.41 | Sargeras | every so often a guard yells "GET A ROPE!" |
| 03:47.42 | Neuro_Medivh | wow... I thought each release was supposed to be MORE stable than the last =) |
| 03:48.21 | Duman | Interface\FrameXML\RuneFrame.lua:86: attempt to index field 'shine' (a nil value) |
| 03:48.21 | Duman | Count: 18 |
| 03:48.21 | Duman | Call Stack: |
| 03:48.21 | Duman | [C]: ? |
| 03:48.22 | Duman | Interface\FrameXML\RuneFrame.lua:86: in function `RuneButton_Update' |
| 03:48.22 | Duman | Interface\FrameXML\RuneFrame.lua:140: in function <Interface\FrameXML\RuneFrame.lua:120> |
| 03:48.26 | Duman | o.O |
| 03:48.33 | End | Duman: Shine MOAR |
| 03:48.37 | Duman | heh |
| 03:48.59 | Neuro_Medivh | question: anyone tried Google's Chrome yet, and how does it stack up to firefox? |
| 03:49.06 | End | Neuro_Medivh: needs addons |
| 03:49.18 | End | as in |
| 03:49.28 | Anaral | And more cowbell |
| 03:49.31 | Dashkal | gonna go play mario kart. back later |
| 03:49.38 | End | you can't really customize it like firefox yet |
| 03:51.51 | bleeter | Neuro_Medivh: afaik, FF doesn't claim (C) over anything you SUBMIT to any website, so I'd humbly suggest it don't stack up at all |
| 03:52.07 | End | bleeter: heh, they took that clause out |
| 03:52.32 | NeoTron | -anyone else get the feeling that they hurry a bit too much with their pushing patches to live on fridays? |
| 03:52.33 | End | (or will be soon) |
| 03:52.43 | End | yeah |
| 03:52.45 | End | I can see why though |
| 03:52.49 | End | weekend of testing |
| 03:52.57 | End | in this case, fail |
| 03:53.02 | NeoTron | except this isn't the first time it's been weekend of not being able to test at all |
| 03:53.08 | NeoTron | 2nd time in 3 patches |
| 03:53.39 | Neuro_Medivh | bleeter, Google apparently changed the TOS on Chrome to remove that part =) |
| 03:53.55 | bleeter | how the hell it ended up there in the first place... |
| 03:54.03 | Neuro_Medivh | cut-n-paste is the story |
| 03:54.04 | End | actually they didn't even remove it. it just says you DO own your stuff now |
| 03:54.08 | NeoTron | and in all likelyhood they won't make it playable for another week or so (again based on the patch before last patch |
| 03:54.21 | End | they basically changed the wording to mean the exact opposite |
| 03:56.51 | NeoTron | ah well maybe I'll do an "exciting" ZA bear run tonight instead |
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| 03:57.49 | Anaral | WTB ZA Bear run for my mage. :( |
| 03:58.22 | Tekkub | Anaral, why? there's other bear mounts to be had |
| 03:58.46 | Tekkub | or do you *really* want one with feathers in it's ass? |
| 03:58.49 | Anaral | Because it's the first, it's armored, and I haven't seen the other beras. |
| 03:59.00 | bleeter | mmm beras |
| 03:59.19 | Tekkub | I actually like the others better... and I paid 10k for my ZA one :P |
| 03:59.30 | Anaral | Also my mage is a gnome, she has compensation issues. Has to have huge mounts. She has an elekk after all. |
| 03:59.37 | Tekkub | panserbjørn >> all |
| 03:59.50 | End | the only reason I want a bear is because I might decide I want it later |
| 03:59.51 | Anaral | Who? |
| 03:59.58 | Tekkub | armored polar bear |
| 04:00.03 | End | other than that, I couldn't care less |
| 04:00.39 | Tekkub | only reason I bought my bear was I had the cash, nothing to spend it on, and at the time the only other bear was on those shitty loot cards |
| 04:00.42 | Anaral | Isn't the armored polar bear the WWI mount? |
| 04:00.45 | Tekkub | not about to pay real $$ for one |
| 04:00.56 | Duman | wtf |
| 04:00.58 | Duman | earthwuake |
| 04:01.02 | Duman | (like, for real) |
| 04:01.04 | Tekkub | the BlizzCon bear is ONE of the new bear mounts |
| 04:01.12 | End | Duman: where do you live? |
| 04:01.14 | Anaral | Where? |
| 04:01.22 | Tekkub | take off the murloc and you have the others :P |
| 04:01.31 | Duman | bay area, california |
| 04:01.38 | End | ah |
| 04:01.40 | Duman | (south bay) |
| 04:01.41 | End | thought as much |
| 04:01.45 | Anaral | Cool |
| 04:02.02 | Duman | wow |
| 04:02.08 | Duman | USGS claims it was in berkeley |
| 04:02.12 | Duman | which is pretty far from me |
| 04:02.18 | Tekkub | pfft, earthquakes in CA ain't news |
| 04:02.57 | Tekkub | USGS's earthquake center was a block form my old college's campus :) |
| 04:04.17 | Anaral | Duman: How strong? |
| 04:05.14 | Duman | wtf, weak... |
| 04:05.17 | Duman | they finally listed it |
| 04:05.19 | Duman | 4.2... |
| 04:05.23 | Duman | I'm surprised I felt it down here |
| 04:05.25 | ccox | didn't feel it in San Jose |
| 04:05.31 | Duman | I did.. I'm in campbell |
| 04:06.18 | Duman | revised down to a 4.1 |
| 04:07.00 | ccox | looks like aftershocks incoming |
| 04:07.13 | Duman | down to a 4.0 now, haha |
| 04:07.18 | Duman | http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/recenteqs/Quakes/nc51207740.htm |
| 04:09.02 | Duman | gah |
| 04:09.04 | ccox | maybe this explains why the servers are so shaky? :-) |
| 04:09.04 | Duman | milling is broken |
| 04:09.07 | Duman | LOL |
| 04:09.45 | ccox | Duman - what's wrong with milling? |
| 04:10.02 | Duman | doesn't produce anything |
| 04:10.07 | Duman | well, for outlands+ herbs |
| 04:10.11 | Duman | which is what I need to mill right now |
| 04:10.12 | ccox | (and I notice they finally gave new icons for the pigments) |
| 04:10.28 | ccox | oh, good thing I have 200+ nether pigment already |
| 04:10.47 | ccox | (transferred my alchemist, milled her entire bank of herbs) |
| 04:11.24 | Dashkal | hrm, so numbers are starting to come back regarding the DK nerfs |
| 04:11.58 | Seerah | is there any way to get a spellid from a localized spell name? |
| 04:12.06 | Dashkal | Gonna have to test this for myself, but it's looking like we hit about as well as a prot warrior on live atm. |
| 04:12.16 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:12.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Restart in 15 |
| 04:12.23 | Dashkal | oh thank god |
| 04:12.31 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd be money that transforms into restart in :30 soon |
| 04:12.47 | ccox | Dashkal - ouch (main is a prot warrior) |
| 04:13.13 | ccox | and on that note, I guess I'll go get some food and see about doing dailies on live servers... |
| 04:13.15 | Dashkal | ccox: this is just from random QQ on the forums. I need to get in when teh server isn't choking to death and poke at it myself to compare old blood vs new blood |
| 04:13.28 | ccox | Dash - and reset your talents |
| 04:13.37 | Dashkal | ccox: talents have been redone |
| 04:13.55 | Dashkal | I suffered through the DK quest with Duman. That was... fun |
| 04:13.58 | Dashkal | cool quest though |
| 04:14.35 | *** join/#wowuidev Anaral (n=Anaral@ip68-228-143-183.hr.hr.cox.net) |
| 04:15.11 | Duman | hmm |
| 04:17.14 | End | lol |
| 04:17.25 | End | http://www.sonikstudios.net/beta/images/gamon.png |
| 04:17.46 | Duman | haha |
| 04:17.48 | Duman | GO GAMON |
| 04:18.16 | Duman | I cannot visit org w/o killing him |
| 04:18.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Mild icecrown spoiler: http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Wrath/WoWScrnShot_090508_213605.jpg |
| 04:18.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Nothing lore related, but just place awesome |
| 04:18.43 | End | lol |
| 04:21.05 | Sargeras | 400 alchemy can make pots for arenas now |
| 04:21.13 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 04:21.14 | ScytheBlade1 | .............. |
| 04:21.42 | ScytheBlade1 | I find it funny that they nerf pots so hard in PvE |
| 04:21.59 | Anaral | And I still don't have any useful alc recipes to level the rest of the way to 450 |
| 04:22.00 | ScytheBlade1 | And then slap the exact thing on PvP that they destroyed in PvE |
| 04:22.26 | Sargeras | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/september/alchemy8905.jpg |
| 04:22.40 | End | I'm baffled |
| 04:22.41 | End | tbh |
| 04:22.54 | Duman | they aren't very powerful |
| 04:23.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Even at 70 they're mildly weak.. |
| 04:23.09 | End | they are on the weak side, that's true |
| 04:23.57 | Anaral | Okay, Northrend wins, I'm going to bed. See you guys tomorrow. |
| 04:24.03 | Duman | yeah no kidding |
| 04:24.07 | Duman | later anaral |
| 04:25.12 | Dashkal | Night |
| 04:27.29 | kd3 | bah. server went down just a second before I talked to an npc |
| 04:27.35 | kd3 | I'm gonna log back on halway across the zone |
| 04:27.42 | *** join/#wowuidev bleetah (n=Bleeter@guifications/developer/bleeter) |
| 04:28.01 | Dashkal | yay, blues getting testy. ok, nothing productive is coming of tonight. back tomorrow |
| 04:28.11 | Duman | ALL SERVERS OFFLINE |
| 04:28.18 | Duman | as in offline-offline |
| 04:28.18 | kd3 | testy? |
| 04:28.19 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 04:28.21 | ScytheBlade1 | good |
| 04:28.29 | Dashkal | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/18/9679888191-simply-heroic.html |
| 04:28.43 | Dashkal | I understand where gc is coming from, just that when the devs are getting upset, it's time to stay far far away |
| 04:28.53 | Duman | Gradina never did update his post to say "realms back online", at least ;-) |
| 04:29.21 | Dashkal | heh |
| 04:29.56 | Dashkal | got a sarcastic comment a bit earlier, followed by that gem |
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| 04:30.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Duman: where'd you see that they are offline for a bit? |
| 04:31.11 | Duman | I jsut saw they were all offline :P |
| 04:31.14 | Duman | realm selection screen |
| 04:31.15 | ScytheBlade1 | ah :P |
| 04:31.57 | Duman | I bet they took them down so they can work on them w/o having 1028309132 people trying to connect over and overf |
| 04:32.06 | Duman | they show "up" but I get dropped instantly |
| 04:33.21 | bleetah | premade copy is still bork |
| 04:33.36 | Duman | back |
| 04:33.36 | bleetah | nominally more bork than previous, I'm just getting a blank page |
| 04:33.39 | Tem | oh dear |
| 04:33.42 | Tem | so, I get home |
| 04:33.47 | bleetah | hai tem |
| 04:33.48 | Tem | hit refresh on the DK forum |
| 04:33.54 | bleetah | ouchies |
| 04:34.18 | Tem | and EVERY POST is doom, gloom and apocalypse |
| 04:34.26 | bleetah | well |
| 04:34.28 | Tem | should I be afraid of this patch? |
| 04:34.30 | bleetah | they ARE death knights |
| 04:34.37 | Neuro_Medivh | Tem, yes |
| 04:34.45 | bleetah | not 'happy joy knights' |
| 04:34.46 | Neuro_Medivh | this is by far the most unstable patch yet |
| 04:35.05 | Dashkal | Tem: Server lifetime is measured in seconds, DKs nerfed into the ground. |
| 04:35.09 | Tem | until I got home, the DK forum was a little huddled corner of useful feedback in the otherwise miserable forums |
| 04:35.19 | bleetah | seconds is generous |
| 04:35.19 | Tem | *sigh* |
| 04:35.31 | Dashkal | IWait for the dust to settle |
| 04:35.34 | Dashkal | damn enter key |
| 04:35.35 | Neuro_Medivh | right now, all my buttons are my Rune Strike macro |
| 04:35.43 | Dashkal | I'd suggest waiting ofr the dust to settle, then trying to be constructive :p |
| 04:36.04 | bleetah | yup, time to go do some more Live levelling |
| 04:36.24 | Neuro_Medivh | and yeah, apparently DK dps got nerfed |
| 04:36.41 | Neuro_Medivh | though I cannot confirm that, as my DK can't stay logged in more than 2 minutes |
| 04:37.05 | Duman | sigh |
| 04:37.07 | Duman | still can't mill |
| 04:37.08 | kd3 | I'm racing through the intro quest chain again since my last copy went poof |
| 04:37.16 | Duman | copy? |
| 04:37.17 | kd3 | soon as LK comes back up, that is |
| 04:37.22 | Duman | oh on LK |
| 04:37.23 | ScytheBlade1 | btw, Duman, RTFS ;) (stickies) |
| 04:37.24 | kd3 | s/copy/roll/ |
| 04:37.29 | ScytheBlade1 | (re: UI forums slouken post) |
| 04:37.44 | Duman | yeah yeah :P |
| 04:38.04 | ScytheBlade1 | I had the opportunity, there was -no- chance of me passing that one up |
| 04:38.16 | bleetah | kd3: I thought you'd be chasing down the mirror image spell first :P |
| 04:38.23 | bleetah | as if one of you ain't enough ;) |
| 04:38.24 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9679888232&sid=2000 |
| 04:38.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Storm Peaks going poof again |
| 04:38.42 | kd3 | I'm maybe 1/10 through 78 |
| 04:38.47 | kd3 | going for the low-hanging fruit atm |
| 04:38.51 | End | lol |
| 04:38.59 | End | all else fails, disable storm peaks! |
| 04:39.03 | Tekkub | about time |
| 04:39.19 | Tekkub | I would think they woulda realized it was still broken like 10 min in |
| 04:40.28 | ScytheBlade1 | afk |
| 04:40.34 | Neuro_Medivh | Storm Peaks is obviously the hardest zone EVAH! |
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| 04:43.09 | Dashkal | ok, that zone has been closed for a good while. what did they subtly fubar to make it still crashtastic? |
| 04:44.05 | Duman | I bet the DK starting zone is contributing :( |
| 04:44.18 | bleetah | :( |
| 04:44.42 | Dashkal | Duman: fair enough, but that should only be destroying EK. People were complaining that ouland was asploding |
| 04:44.51 | bleetah | <<trying to do the flying mount quest in HF... looks like the mouse point of view thing's fixed |
| 04:45.30 | Sargeras | http://www.worldofraids.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18538 |
| 04:48.55 | End | should I have gotten 7g from a level 20 something quest? |
| 04:49.01 | End | on a 70? |
| 04:49.03 | Duman | lol? |
| 04:49.08 | Duman | which quest was this |
| 04:49.17 | End | just a take this item to this guy kthx |
| 04:49.29 | Duman | wait, is the server back up? |
| 04:49.44 | End | no, this is live, but exp to gold shouldnt give that much |
| 04:49.47 | bleetah | it was |
| 04:49.49 | Duman | ahh |
| 04:50.03 | bleetah | airships in icecrown |
| 04:50.14 | Duman | so sbo was right |
| 04:50.23 | Duman | ? |
| 04:51.22 | bleetah | no idea... gunna go play live for an hour or so |
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| 04:53.32 | *** join/#wowuidev bleetah (n=Bleeter@guifications/developer/bleeter) |
| 04:53.35 | bleetah | http://www.sonikstudios.net/beta/images/gamon.png |
| 04:57.28 | Tem | . . . |
| 04:57.29 | Tem | wow |
| 04:57.41 | Tem | the server didn't even stay up long enough for me to death gate out |
| 04:57.59 | Tem | "server stability measured in seconds" indeed |
| 04:58.18 | kd3 | guess that means I'm not going to be finishing the light of dawn... |
| 04:58.29 | kd3 | I'll just chill out in the instance |
| 05:01.08 | Tem | I think I'm gonna play through the DK starter zone again |
| 05:01.20 | Duman | I think you need to delete your current DK to do that :( |
| 05:01.24 | Tem | nope |
| 05:01.29 | Duman | oh can oyu create more than one again? |
| 05:01.29 | Tem | I have like 5 DKs atm |
| 05:01.30 | Neuro_Medivh | not on beta |
| 05:01.32 | kd3 | my dk was deleted on LK |
| 05:01.51 | Neuro_Medivh | Wanna see how bored I am? |
| 05:02.03 | Tem | oh fuck yes |
| 05:02.07 | Tem | Arthas reads quests to you |
| 05:02.08 | Neuro_Medivh | Deborah, Carla, Mary, Susan, Reno, Cathy, Vicki, Kamala, Zilla, Joan, Sherry, Kathleen, Seattle, Karen, Jeannie, Mariella, Gloria, Mimi, Marilyn, Julie, Rhonda, Patty, Linda, Katherine, Pauline, Jean-Marie, Gina, Jackie, Sarah, Janet, Tanya, Brenda, Roweena, Dee Dee, Debbie Rae, Nina, Bobbie, Eloise, Terri, Ronnie, Jezebel, Dinah, Judy, Amaranta |
| 05:02.17 | Duman | o.O |
| 05:02.26 | Dashkal | Tem: Yeah, I really do wish I was kidding on the server ttl bit |
| 05:03.17 | Neuro_Medivh | anyone know what those names have in common? |
| 05:04.03 | ccox|food | they're all men posing as women? |
| 05:04.11 | Neuro_Medivh | lol |
| 05:04.29 | NightHawkTheSane | i'd say they're all people who have told you no, but im pretty sure 'seattle' would say yes to anyone |
| 05:04.41 | Tem | wow |
| 05:04.47 | Tem | northrend went down completely |
| 05:04.49 | Neuro_Medivh | just names from a song I was listening to... that's how bored I was =) |
| 05:04.58 | NeoTron | maybe they are attempting to fix it |
| 05:05.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Neuro_Medivh: see, now you force the question, what song. |
| 05:05.15 | ccox|food | 44 women in 88 lines? |
| 05:05.20 | Neuro_Medivh | yep |
| 05:05.23 | Tem | oh YES! Finally |
| 05:05.26 | Neuro_Medivh | but it's 88 lines about 44 women |
| 05:05.33 | Tem | video options are part of the rest of the interface options |
| 05:05.43 | ccox|food | hmm, darn - that one ISN'T on my ipod |
| 05:06.15 | Neuro_Medivh | I typed all the names just to see if there really were 44 =) |
| 05:07.01 | NightHawkTheSane | are there? |
| 05:07.06 | Neuro_Medivh | Yep |
| 05:07.12 | NightHawkTheSane | good to know |
| 05:07.14 | Neuro_Medivh | lol |
| 05:07.26 | NightHawkTheSane | i can sleep well now. |
| 05:07.28 | Neuro_Medivh | just going through my song collection, mainly listening to 80s music for some reason |
| 05:08.19 | NeoTron | Tem: how.. do you know? |
| 05:08.34 | NeoTron | normally by the time I've loaded in I crash out ;-) |
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| 05:09.14 | Tem | NeoTron, DK starting area is stable |
| 05:10.30 | End | so blame storm peaks? |
| 05:10.37 | Tekkub | [Me] [Guild] Is is safe? [Server] No. |
| 05:11.19 | Duman | mmm, bacon |
| 05:11.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Tekkub: die |
| 05:11.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Tekkub: also send me one |
| 05:11.47 | Tekkub | screw you |
| 05:11.55 | ScytheBlade1 | =[ |
| 05:12.11 | Neuro_Medivh | Bacon, Tekkub? You like bacon? I never would have guessed... |
| 05:12.25 | Tekkub | EVERYTHING is better wrapped in bacon |
| 05:12.37 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 05:12.41 | bleetah | mmm bacon wrapped in bacon |
| 05:12.53 | Neuro_Medivh | there's a great xkcd about bacon |
| 05:12.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Highly related: http://www.savagechickens.com/2008/09/something-to-live-for.html |
| 05:13.43 | Thrae | Anyone heard of "Rupture"? |
| 05:14.18 | bleetah | nope, but i know the melody to blondie's rapture |
| 05:14.25 | Neuro_Medivh | Tekkub, read the first entry on this: http://216.197.122.150/ns/PressRelease/ViewPressRelease.asp?PRelId=39 |
| 05:15.13 | Tekkub | "A few hours ago would've been good." KD3 your INGRATE |
| 05:15.30 | Tekkub | but yea, it shoulda taken a whole of 10 minutes to see it was still broken |
| 05:15.48 | kd3 | I'm allowed to be pissed off too |
| 05:15.58 | Tekkub | no you're not |
| 05:16.15 | Thrae | http://www.rupture.com/ <-- it's like XFire, except it's collaborative development and runs on Mac (and probably WINE). Despite being collaborative development, it's being backed by EA. |
| 05:16.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Thrae: that last point is a killer. |
| 05:16.38 | ScytheBlade1 | (Not in a good way!) |
| 05:16.53 | Neuro_Medivh | lol... reading that press release, every single food mentioned is "deep fried" |
| 05:16.56 | bleetah | mmmm cofffeee |
| 05:17.12 | Tekkub | Thrae, you lost me at "EA" |
| 05:17.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: so i can spam people every time i change out a piece of gear?! awesome! |
| 05:17.37 | Thrae | ScytheBlade1: EA hasn't made any bone-headed moves lately. All they've been doing is providing financial backing recently. |
| 05:17.49 | Thrae | And they're getting rid of DRM. |
| 05:17.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Thrae: that doesn't make them saints |
| 05:17.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Er |
| 05:17.57 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 05:18.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Wait, what? Link? |
| 05:18.11 | ScytheBlade1 | That's quite possibly beyond my comprehension |
| 05:18.22 | *** join/#wowuidev smcn (i=smcn@c-67-160-186-84.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 05:18.25 | Tekkub | I can't remember the last EA title that even got a "meh" out of me |
| 05:18.39 | Neuro_Medivh | by DRM, are you talking Digital Rights Management, or Death Rune Mastery? |
| 05:18.52 | Thrae | I liked some of the Battlefield FPSes. |
| 05:19.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Neuro_Medivh: yes, EA is getting rid of Death Rune Mastery |
| 05:19.19 | Neuro_Medivh | hey, they're powerful enough! |
| 05:19.22 | NightHawkTheSane | they really weren't fond of the talent to begin with, so they're going to buy out activision-blizzard JUST to remove that talent. *nod* |
| 05:19.49 | Neuro_Medivh | it's sad, I remember when EA was 3 people and put out good games like Archon |
| 05:20.10 | NightHawkTheSane | i remember when i gave a crap what EA did -- no, wait.. i don't. |
| 05:20.13 | Tekkub | so it's like myspace for gamers with automatic multi-game "ding" announcements? |
| 05:20.15 | Thrae | At this point, I don't think even EA could buy out Activision-Blizzard...only because they're owned by Vivendi, a French company, and we all know how well EA does in Europe. |
| 05:20.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Thrae: oh, on Spore and Mass Effect? Sorry, that's not removing DRM, as they have rows and rows of existing products that still use a fair bit of it - two games where they altered their scheme.. sorry but no |
| 05:20.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: i -think- Activision-Blizzard might even be worth more than EA, but i dont know.. |
| 05:21.06 | Thrae | Tekkub: At the very least, you get to talk to people in-game, even from another game. |
| 05:21.32 | Tekkub | hrm... why wouold I care about ingame when I have 2 monitors? |
| 05:21.35 | Thrae | NightHawkTheSane: No way. Maybe Vivendi. |
| 05:21.53 | bleetah | have blizz published subscriber numbers in the past 6-12 months? there was a while there they seemed to be doing it near every week |
| 05:22.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: maybe. *shrug* i know with the merger, they're pretty huge now, but i dont keep track of that stuff |
| 05:23.30 | Arrowmaster | the spore/mass effect drm is some of the worst ever |
| 05:24.09 | Tekkub | so "template" copy loads a blank page, and char copy say -2 premade copies >< |
| 05:24.54 | Neuro_Medivh | well, based on reported income, Activision is nearly 3 billion in revenue, EA 4 billion, and that doesn't include the Blizzard half of Act-Bliz |
| 05:24.57 | kd3 | go back to step 1, tekkub |
| 05:25.04 | Tekkub | I have |
| 05:25.23 | Tekkub | https://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/templatecopy/character-copy.html <--- blank page |
| 05:26.21 | bleetah | I blame the spelling of Murmur |
| 05:27.02 | Duman | LOL |
| 05:27.08 | Duman | I was thinking about that |
| 05:28.37 | smcn | so i guess storm peaks is still crashing northrend.. |
| 05:30.52 | Neuro_Medivh | hmm, they added a fee to flying in Northrend... 950g |
| 05:31.11 | End | ouch I guess |
| 05:31.20 | ScytheBlade1 | not really |
| 05:31.26 | ScytheBlade1 | I was up 2k gold by the time I was 77 |
| 05:31.42 | ScytheBlade1 | That was with me not vendoring a single green/blue item too |
| 05:32.08 | End | I have no idea how much gold an average player would have |
| 05:32.18 | End | I guess I made about 2k from 70-77 |
| 05:32.31 | End | my character on live makes money even faster though :P |
| 05:33.37 | End | (I'm not poor, but I'm not silly rich like Xinhuan either) |
| 05:40.51 | kd3 | sigh at the quest writers failing at basic grammar |
| 05:40.55 | kd3 | "Where King's Walk" |
| 05:40.56 | kd3 | fail |
| 05:42.31 | bleetah | but i put it thru ms word spelchekka |
| 05:46.01 | NightHawkTheSane | random question: draenei +hit aura. is that consolidated to both physical/spell hit like everything else or is that still split up by class? |
| 05:46.08 | Duman | yeah that quest name made me cringe |
| 05:48.08 | Thrae | NightHawkTheSane: I think it's only spell hit, I could be wrong. |
| 05:48.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: well, some classes had spellhit, some had physical hit before.. |
| 05:49.12 | Thrae | NightHawkTheSane: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=28878 |
| 05:49.23 | Thrae | NightHawkTheSane: Seems it is broken up |
| 05:49.43 | Duman | hmm |
| 05:49.45 | Duman | outlands crashed, too |
| 05:51.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: well, i -knew- it was broken up in live, i should have specified my question was regarding wotlk. |
| 05:51.52 | Thrae | Yes, that would have been nice :D |
| 05:52.06 | NightHawkTheSane | my bad, it made sense in my head! :P |
| 05:53.23 | Thrae | NightHawkTheSane: Well, I can tell you Wowhead thinks nothing has changed. Check patch notes... |
| 05:53.48 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i just checked wowhead.. i didn't recall a patch note about it, which is why i asked. |
| 05:53.58 | NightHawkTheSane | of course.. that raises my next question.. which to DK's get? |
| 05:54.06 | Thrae | I don't see why they would consolidate it. |
| 05:54.17 | Thrae | DKs would probably get +Spell, like Paladins and Shamans get +Spell. |
| 05:54.44 | Thrae | Most of a DK's damage is Magical, not Physical. |
| 05:55.05 | Gngsk | don't pallies get physical? |
| 05:55.06 | NightHawkTheSane | well.. |
| 05:55.06 | Neuro_Medivh | DKs get Heroic Presence |
| 05:55.17 | kd3 | lmao |
| 05:55.23 | kd3 | anduin says "GET A ROPE!" |
| 05:55.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: i think most of their attacks are physical attacks, though... |
| 05:55.29 | kd3 | somehow I think that won't fly |
| 05:55.47 | Thrae | 02:02 < Neuro_Medivh> DKs get Heroic Presence <-- I'd go with someone actually in the Beta |
| 05:56.17 | NightHawkTheSane | BS, PS, oblit, FS, RS, and SS are all physical attacks (some do elemental damage, but yeah) |
| 05:56.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Neuro_Medivh: thanks :) |
| 05:56.37 | Thrae | Now that I think about it though, they should get Heroic Presence because they're like Undead Paladins. |
| 05:57.09 | Neuro_Medivh | personally, though, I'd never make a Draenei DK |
| 05:57.17 | Neuro_Medivh | for pve, Human can't be beat |
| 05:57.28 | Duman | expertise++ |
| 05:57.34 | Neuro_Medivh | actually |
| 05:57.37 | Neuro_Medivh | DIPLOMACY |
| 05:57.41 | Duman | that, too |
| 05:57.45 | NightHawkTheSane | well, you get both, so :p |
| 05:58.06 | Neuro_Medivh | if I were pvp oriented, then gnome for the escape artist |
| 05:58.38 | Neuro_Medivh | but they've nerfed escape artist so much over the last year, not sure it's worth it anymore |
| 05:59.15 | Thrae | Who doesn't like a tiny little Gnome DK? |
| 05:59.17 | NightHawkTheSane | .... dammit |
| 05:59.25 | NightHawkTheSane | blizzard added an "apply" button to interface options |
| 05:59.37 | bleetah | Go Gnome Or Go Home |
| 05:59.44 | Gngsk | NightHawkTheSane, you can prolly blame tekkub for that |
| 05:59.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Gngsk: why do you say that? |
| 06:00.06 | Tekkub | why? |
| 06:00.18 | Thrae | Gngsk: Or maybe all Windows dialog boxes since Windows 95? |
| 06:00.28 | Tekkub | I've not harassed them for anything, I don't even use the stupid okey/cancel |
| 06:00.48 | Tekkub | you change a setting, it is appled, end of story |
| 06:01.04 | Gngsk | yeah, I remember you asking for it to be different. maybe I'm not recalling correctly |
| 06:01.22 | Gngsk | although now that I think about it an apply button isn't really what you were asking for |
| 06:01.32 | Tekkub | I asked for it to apply, not undo, if you close the window with ESC |
| 06:01.39 | Thrae | Their Tech Support department could have suggested it. Anyone who worked in Tech Support remember the days where we would say "No no no, hit APPLY, ***THEN*** OK!" |
| 06:02.21 | NightHawkTheSane | I only really mind because in my mod I added an 'apply' button to the left of the two okay/cancel buttons... and when they added theirs, my 'apply' button perfectly overlapped the 'okay' button. >< |
| 06:03.35 | Neuro_Medivh | ok, I just saw some Vista ad with Bill Gates and Jerry Seinfeld... my reaction is "huh?" |
| 06:03.51 | Neuro_Medivh | reminds me why I never liked Seinfeld |
| 06:04.06 | Gngsk | was it better or worse than the hp+bee movie commercial? |
| 06:04.14 | Neuro_Medivh | way worse |
| 06:04.27 | Neuro_Medivh | Jerry Seinfeld and Bill Gates go shoe shopping. That's the Vista ad |
| 06:04.37 | Neuro_Medivh | and at the very end, Bill Gates shakes his ass. |
| 06:04.45 | Neuro_Medivh | I'm not making this up |
| 06:04.51 | Gngsk | heh |
| 06:05.01 | Tekkub | wow, I'm so glad I didn't help fund that shit |
| 06:05.04 | Neuro_Medivh | you can't make up shit this weird |
| 06:05.28 | Tekkub | "I mean, what is the deal with the new start menu?" |
| 06:05.57 | Gngsk | ugh |
| 06:06.03 | Neuro_Medivh | That would be an IMPROVEMENT, Tekkub. This ad never even mentions Vista, and it only mentions microsoft in the last 10 seconds |
| 06:06.52 | Duman | well, shiz |
| 06:06.55 | Tekkub | I'll just sit here blissfully unaware of this, in my little bubble I've worked so hard to keep advertising out of |
| 06:07.01 | Duman | the warrior/DK glyphs aren't ACTUALLY in the game yet |
| 06:07.07 | Neuro_Medivh | now, the Zack & Miri make a Porno trailer was hysterical |
| 06:07.08 | Duman | that is, not attainable yet |
| 06:07.51 | Tekkub | is NR unbroke yet? |
| 06:08.23 | Thrae | Most everyone knows what Vista is. This ad is only the first in a series trying to bring back some respect for Microsoft. |
| 06:08.42 | Tekkub | respect? advertising? seriously now |
| 06:08.43 | Duman | nope - just crashed again |
| 06:08.58 | Tekkub | I know ad people are brainless, but they dont' believe that do they? |
| 06:09.10 | Neuro_Medivh | Vista's problem isn't advertising or Microsoft's reputation |
| 06:09.15 | Neuro_Medivh | Vista's problem is XP |
| 06:09.25 | Tekkub | yup |
| 06:09.34 | Neuro_Medivh | they overengineered XP, made it too good |
| 06:09.51 | Diao | from what i heard the new ad for MS is basically saying "we fucked up vista but wait for the next version of windows" |
| 06:10.04 | Tekkub | nah, XP was just fine... the problem was that they tried to improve XP with stupid things |
| 06:10.06 | Thrae | Diao: Nope |
| 06:10.15 | Tekkub | like transparency and special effects |
| 06:10.20 | Neuro_Medivh | You know what Vista is? It's XP with a whole bunch of anti-pirate shit added in |
| 06:10.39 | Tekkub | okey, we got a stable good OS, but people still use mac... why? it must be becuase it's pretty |
| 06:10.45 | Tekkub | we need to be pretier |
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| 06:10.53 | Tekkub | more people will want us then |
| 06:11.17 | Tekkub | anti pirate? nah, I still havn't paid for mine |
| 06:11.29 | Diao | people use mac because they're suckered into paying high prices for a brand :( |
| 06:11.29 | Tekkub | you could use the same arguement with XP vs 2K |
| 06:11.32 | Fogger | beta.wow-europe.com busy at 7am mmmm |
| 06:11.50 | Neuro_Medivh | well, 2k was designed as a server-client system, the successor to NT |
| 06:11.57 | Tekkub | Diao, don't say that out loud, they aggro easily |
| 06:12.10 | Diao | lol |
| 06:12.17 | Neuro_Medivh | Windows ME was the bastard stepchild that XP had to fix |
| 06:12.18 | Tekkub | Neuro_Medivh, XP is 2K with an ugly skin |
| 06:12.25 | kd3 | well, crap. I completed the quest to be friendly with the alliance, then the world server crashed and now I'm hostile again |
| 06:12.30 | Tekkub | Vista is XP with an ugly skin |
| 06:12.30 | Thrae | The problem with Vista is the problem with XP -- there were a lot of changes which people did not like when XP first came out, and a lot of boneheaded moves. So Microsoft tried to create the next generation of OSes, showing what they learned from XP's release. Vista is much more stable and secure then XP was at release. There's a lot of changes in Vista that most people wouldn't understand, like the push for 64-bit, and permissions. |
| 06:13.24 | Thrae | UAC work would just like sudo if developers (not Microsoft) would actually use it properly. |
| 06:13.29 | Tekkub | but the push for permissions just kinda failed because they tried too hard |
| 06:13.39 | Neuro_Medivh | Thrae, I disagree. XP simply does what people want already, there's nothing Vista does BETTER than XP |
| 06:13.39 | Tekkub | UAC gets in your way when it doesn't need to |
| 06:14.07 | Thrae | Neuro_Medivh: On default settings for both, Vista IS more secure then XP. |
| 06:14.11 | Fogger | yeah, it gets annoying very quickly having to confirm every mouse click |
| 06:14.12 | Tekkub | Vista's handled sleep bettern any other time I've tried |
| 06:14.21 | Tekkub | but that's probably more hardware than OS |
| 06:14.45 | Thrae | Tekkub: Vista introduced Hybrid Sleep, where it saves a hibernation file as well as puts the system into S3. |
| 06:15.07 | Tekkub | yea but I'm using plain old S3 I think |
| 06:15.10 | Neuro_Medivh | Thrae, but is that security worth the cost of upgrading, especially when most people have found an acceptable level of security with Xp |
| 06:15.10 | Tekkub | *checks* |
| 06:15.23 | Thrae | Tekkub: Not unless you turned it off under Advanced Options in Power Options |
| 06:15.59 | Tekkub | ah, it is on |
| 06:16.05 | Thrae | Generally it's a good idea to use Hybrid Sleep, less the evils happen |
| 06:16.11 | ccox | "acceptable security XP" - never thought I'd see those 3 words together |
| 06:17.02 | Tekkub | never had security issues in XP, but then my NAT has the lovely side effect of blocking everyone |
| 06:17.23 | Tekkub | I sure as hell wouldn't use windows' firewall, in XP or Vista |
| 06:17.47 | Neuro_Medivh | ccox, I never said using just XP security =) |
| 06:17.54 | Thrae | Neuro_Medivh: One of the core design goals of Vista was to fix as many bugs left in previous versions as possible, even if it means breaking some compatibility. XP's design goal was to provide as much compatibility as possible, even if it meant introducing security holes. |
| 06:18.43 | Tekkub | Thrae, really, there's just nothing compelling about Vista |
| 06:18.54 | Neuro_Medivh | Thrae, but security can be increased... also, if my system were Mission Critical, I'd be using something more secure than XP OR Vista |
| 06:19.25 | Thrae | Neuro_Medivh: Eh, the NSA has a template for XP and they made one for Vista too. DDOD uses XP and Vista. |
| 06:20.11 | Neuro_Medivh | Do you honestly think the servers the NSA runs it's 'Mission Critical' apps on are XP or Vista? |
| 06:20.27 | Tekkub | fuck no |
| 06:20.33 | Tekkub | those are still 95 |
| 06:20.40 | Neuro_Medivh | fuck no |
| 06:20.46 | Neuro_Medivh | they're written in COBOL! |
| 06:20.47 | Tekkub | they're too critical to take down for upgrades |
| 06:20.52 | Duman | anger @ northrend |
| 06:20.52 | Thrae | I know the Social Security Department still mainly uses DOS. |
| 06:20.52 | Duman | anger @ northrend |
| 06:21.19 | Tekkub | yea but we all know that Social Security is a total joke |
| 06:21.21 | Neuro_Medivh | actually, the funny thing is, back in the late 90s I worked at a company who still did use COBOL |
| 06:21.25 | kd3 | meh, I at least got the 3 new quests in for death knights |
| 06:21.31 | kd3 | just need the horde version |
| 06:22.12 | Tekkub | current server is named Shimatta (oh shit!) |
| 06:22.25 | Neuro_Medivh | though this reminds me of Microsoft's Singularity system |
| 06:23.31 | bleetah | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9679888232&sid=2000&pageNo=3#41 |
| 06:23.55 | Neuro_Medivh | supposedly, Singularity is exceedingly secure, though whether they mean traditional security or just general stability I'm not sure |
| 06:23.59 | Duman | bleetah: yep, word |
| 06:24.10 | Duman | altho it's been an hour |
| 06:24.14 | Duman | and still crashage |
| 06:24.20 | Thrae | Neuro_Medivh: Anyway, as a developer myself, I like a 64-bit environment. Microsoft accepted a LOT of very bad libs with XP, and they paid for that come 64-bit. They had to use 2003's kernel in XP 64-bit, a mess that most devs won't even bother with, seeing Vista 64-bit as the start of the mainstream Desktop 64-bit era. Vista was coded with the ideal of making well written, well documented code. Even DirectX 10 is basically just an API restructuring, but ... |
| 06:24.26 | Thrae | ... something that couldn't have been possible with XP. |
| 06:25.19 | Tekkub | oh come on, everyone knows that DX10 isn't backwards compat simply to force people to upgrade |
| 06:25.56 | bleetah | heh |
| 06:26.02 | Tekkub | because everyone knows "hardcore" games will pay out the ass for the latest and greatest |
| 06:26.07 | Tekkub | *gamers |
| 06:26.09 | Neuro_Medivh | Tekkub, for shame! Microsoft would never push a product simply to force us to upgrade! |
| 06:26.20 | bleetah | no company ever! |
| 06:26.26 | Thrae | Tekkub: Huh? You can run DX9 games on Vista fine...it even uses the native DX9 libs in most cases. And the so-called "DX10 Cards" are just cards with drivers that support DX10. |
| 06:26.34 | Neuro_Medivh | I mean, Windows Millenium Edition was a genuine improvement! |
| 06:26.45 | Tekkub | I'm talking about upgrading from XP |
| 06:26.49 | Tekkub | just to get DX10 |
| 06:26.50 | Duman | lawl winme |
| 06:27.18 | smcn | woo server restart |
| 06:27.21 | Tekkub | *points at the WinME logo and the apple MobileMe logo* |
| 06:27.35 | smcn | hopefully it's so the npcs stop being so mean to me :( |
| 06:27.36 | Neuro_Medivh | of course, Apple is just as bad... there's been like 5 different versions of OS-X |
| 06:27.36 | Thrae | Tekkub: Well, I did say Microsoft made some bonheaded moves. 1) Toting Vista as having better gaming performance. 2) "Vista-Ready" stickers for systems that meet Vista Home Basic but not the "real" version of Vista. |
| 06:28.13 | Tekkub | Vista-ready just says to me "you can install a version of vista on this" :P |
| 06:28.14 | Thrae | Tekkub: There's more then just 2 of course |
| 06:28.23 | Tekkub | but aye, the performance was bullshit |
| 06:28.40 | Tekkub | especially since disk ops STILL take longer to make happen than on XP |
| 06:28.43 | kd3 | damn it! I paused all of my torrents earlier today so I could use all of my bandwidth to get the patch |
| 06:28.57 | Neuro_Medivh | and forgot to unpause? |
| 06:28.58 | kd3 | it'd help if I could remember to unpause the torrents... |
| 06:29.07 | Tekkub | drag-drop, wait 2 min for vista to see you want to move this file |
| 06:29.13 | Neuro_Medivh | lol, all that porn you could have been downloading |
| 06:29.14 | Thrae | Although the performance on my machine is better in Vista 64 then XP 32 for Crysis DX9 because of the better drivers for my video card and better support for my Quad Core system. |
| 06:29.21 | Thrae | Tekkub: They fixed that in SP1 ;) |
| 06:29.29 | Tekkub | no, they didn't :P |
| 06:29.43 | Tekkub | it might have gotten better, but it's still slower than in XP |
| 06:29.50 | Thrae | Not for me |
| 06:30.01 | Thrae | Moving from within the same partition is instaneous |
| 06:30.12 | Tekkub | I still run into the hang on a near-daily basis |
| 06:30.23 | Thrae | Your setup of Vista sucks |
| 06:30.26 | Neuro_Medivh | what file system are you using Tekkub and Thrae? |
| 06:30.30 | Tekkub | oh no, you're thinking of something different |
| 06:30.38 | Tekkub | where the actual operation would hang |
| 06:30.44 | Thrae | Ahh |
| 06:30.48 | kd3 | wtf! [Scary] News: Supermarket evacuated after an employee spots a giant spider under a box of bananas. Fark: It was a Brazilian Wandering Spider, the world's deadliest arachnid (w/pic) |
| 06:30.48 | Tekkub | I'm talking about getting it to start in the first place |
| 06:30.51 | Thrae | I've never gotten that, ever. |
| 06:31.22 | Thrae | Tekkub: Did you turn off the "network performance" monitor? There's a way to do that using netsh I believe, so it'll skip trying to pre-calculate how long it'll take. |
| 06:31.46 | Thrae | I still have it on, but I haven't noticed any slowdowns. |
| 06:32.00 | Thrae | Well, Samba is still slow as hell, but what are you going to do, it's SMB. |
| 06:32.01 | Tekkub | hrm... no but these are local, not network |
| 06:32.08 | Duman | server shut down now |
| 06:32.18 | smcn | yarp |
| 06:32.30 | kd3 | so storm peaks and icecrown are both still crashing the world |
| 06:32.36 | Thrae | Tekkub: The performance thingie is used either way, it shows you the MB/s, etc. |
| 06:32.44 | Tekkub | I usually just do shit in command line, I have it up and tab complete works |
| 06:32.48 | Tekkub | and it's instant start |
| 06:33.22 | Tekkub | WTB working https://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/templatecopy/character-copy.html |
| 06:33.41 | bleetah | Tekkub: git back in line!! |
| 06:38.57 | bleetah | :( |
| 06:51.22 | Duman | someone holler if/when the servers return :) |
| 06:52.59 | Tekkub | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! |
| 06:56.32 | bleetah | well it's up, just not the continent |
| 06:57.04 | bleetah | it's all a special ploy so everyone tests out the new DK dps |
| 07:07.25 | Fogger | cant access char copy on eu site either |
| 07:22.02 | Duman | sigh |
| 07:24.32 | Tekkub | Kiff! Stop sighing all the time |
| 07:26.50 | Tekkub | Hey look, the king's back! |
| 07:34.49 | nevcairiel | Man, i finish patching, log in, and what, after 10s, world server gone |
| 07:35.15 | Tekkub | I can't stay on long enought to run from the SW keep entrance to the King and turn in the quest |
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| 07:38.42 | nevcairiel | it really managed to stay up for one minute or so |
| 07:38.48 | nevcairiel | what a broken patch |
| 07:39.04 | Tekkub | *sigh* |
| 07:39.19 | Tekkub | I think they tried to push out too many big things |
| 07:39.39 | Tekkub | storm peaks, the new DK quests |
| 07:39.45 | Tekkub | premades :) |
| 07:40.09 | nevcairiel | they can always turn storm peaks off again |
| 07:40.14 | nevcairiel | if its the source of the crashes |
| 07:40.20 | Tekkub | they already did |
| 07:40.52 | nevcairiel | i just now found the post |
| 07:40.53 | Tekkub | Icecrown, which they're also bringing down |
| 07:41.16 | ccox | ebon hold is also going down pretty rapidly |
| 07:41.40 | Tekkub | yea I think ebon hold is what's crashing EK, is Kally doing better? |
| 07:42.30 | Neuro_Medivh | wow, they really nerfed DK dmg output across the board |
| 07:42.46 | ccox | well, they were a little OP... |
| 07:42.57 | Tekkub | of course, how can you do much damage when you disco after every fight? |
| 07:43.02 | Tekkub | a little? |
| 07:43.08 | Neuro_Medivh | yes, but when you reduce EVERYTHING, you end up seriously nerfing the class |
| 07:43.25 | nevcairiel | DKs needed a serious nerf |
| 07:43.38 | Duman | uh |
| 07:43.43 | Duman | they got it |
| 07:43.44 | Neuro_Medivh | every single ability except scourge strike was lowered |
| 07:43.53 | Tekkub | Neuro_Medivh, two 61 DKs, Ramps, clear trash up to the first boss |
| 07:43.54 | Duman | :) |
| 07:43.56 | Tekkub | OP much? |
| 07:44.14 | Duman | people are just QQ'ing because there is no more God Mode |
| 07:44.20 | Duman | they will get used to it |
| 07:44.25 | nevcairiel | hitting in PvP for 9-10k is not balanced :P |
| 07:44.34 | Duman | and if it really is "too low", it will get re-adjusted |
| 07:44.39 | Tekkub | oh fuck pvp balance :P |
| 07:44.52 | Neuro_Medivh | I understand that, I'm talking about finding out WHY they are OP and fixing that aspect... not just "lower DPS by 50% across the board" |
| 07:45.31 | Tekkub | they are OP cause they deal so much damage and thus that much healing |
| 07:45.50 | Thunder_Child | ~scream |
| 07:45.51 | purl | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!!! |
| 07:45.53 | Tekkub | I went down for food ONCE on my DK getting to 61.. .and I solo'da 60 elite at 58... |
| 07:46.07 | Neuro_Medivh | so did I, then they nerfed blood |
| 07:46.13 | Neuro_Medivh | which was fine, I understood why |
| 07:46.17 | Tekkub | I remember those non-elite demons raping me and my partner at 60... with TWO of us |
| 07:46.28 | Tekkub | granted this is Mr 150DPS retardin |
| 07:46.29 | Neuro_Medivh | but Blood wasn't OP on this patch |
| 07:46.36 | Tekkub | so it's like 1.25 people, but still |
| 07:46.56 | nevcairiel | hm something is broken with their new video settings, i have all on high, yet i get low texture quality |
| 07:47.10 | Neuro_Medivh | but instead of saying "lets tweak unholy and frost" they opted to just reduce all dmg output by 20% |
| 07:47.29 | Tekkub | yea the video settings don't do shit for me, I think the old settings are still used cause my FPS is still bout the same |
| 07:47.43 | Tekkub | and changing them doesn't cause a gxreload |
| 07:48.08 | ccox | nevcairiel - I've heard a few people say that |
| 07:48.15 | ccox | but I'm not seeing it myself |
| 07:53.16 | nevcairiel | Hm wtf |
| 07:53.24 | nevcairiel | they made cold-weather-flying a trainer thing? |
| 07:53.34 | nevcairiel | in dalaran is a new NPC that teaches you at 77 |
| 07:54.16 | Fogger | so wotl installer says 7.3gb required, so I make 7.8gb space and it runs out at 72%. FAIL! |
| 07:54.28 | Tekkub | lol, this is total win... |
| 07:54.40 | Tekkub | on http://wotlkwiki.info/index.php/Guide/Inscription I get... [Scroll Proxy-Connection: keep-alive |
| 07:55.01 | Tekkub | WTB [Scroll Proxy-Connection: keep-alive] PST |
| 07:56.13 | Corgan | lol |
| 07:57.00 | Duman | haha |
| 07:57.13 | Tekkub | could use some spellcheck too... Treated Vallum |
| 07:57.23 | Tekkub | why do I read "Valium"? |
| 07:57.37 | Thunder_Child | so did i Tekkub, so did i |
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| 08:04.54 | Tekkub | okey this female DK NPC has a VERY creepy deep voice |
| 08:05.09 | Dewin | As in male pretending to be female voice? |
| 08:05.18 | Tekkub | in fact she sounds EXACTLY like the male tauren next to her |
| 08:05.45 | Tekkub | the dorf accect + voice modulation is great though |
| 08:05.58 | Dewin | It's not a real NPC, the tauren is a ventriloquist |
| 08:07.44 | Tekkub | okey, on my tauren though, the deep voice + the DK voice is like mmmmmmmm |
| 08:07.53 | Tekkub | I'm afraid to turn up my subwoofer |
| 08:08.33 | jaxdahl | did the combat log API get changed? |
| 08:08.43 | jaxdahl | crits are being recorded as glancing blows in my recount |
| 08:16.37 | Duman | hmm |
| 08:16.45 | Duman | which cities did they put training dummys into |
| 08:16.57 | Duman | I thought I heard someone say there were some in SW |
| 08:22.34 | WobWork | http://www.bigredkitty.net/2008/09/06/brk-core-hound-movie/ |
| 08:22.42 | WobWork | core hound pet if anyone wants to see |
| 08:25.18 | Maldivia | hmm.. what does core hounds eat... |
| 08:25.40 | Duman | humanoids |
| 08:25.44 | Duman | err, wait... ;-) |
| 08:25.44 | WobWork | MEAT |
| 08:25.53 | Corrodias | is this a bug, or did they intentionally open taming to more animals? |
| 08:25.54 | Maldivia | Duman: hehe, yeh - that was my thought aswell :) |
| 08:26.03 | WobWork | intentional |
| 08:26.06 | WobWork | it's an exotic pet |
| 08:26.10 | Duman | it's the 51pt BM talent |
| 08:26.23 | Duman | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:26.24 | Corrodias | hm. well, sounds nice |
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| 08:28.42 | BugerMan | hi all! tell me how to create something like the grid or list that a display for example 20 records |
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| 08:37.53 | Maldivia | wow... they changed abolish poison to a 1 min buff |
| 08:37.56 | [SW]Dodge | g'morning all :) |
| 08:41.40 | Corrodias | hi |
| 08:42.49 | Maldivia | hmm... did they change how cvars work this build? |
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| 08:50.24 | BugerMan | tell me how to create something like the grid or list that a display for example 20 records |
| 08:51.15 | Cairenn | BugerMan: you'll find people are a lot more inclined to help if you show that you've made some effort to figure out how to do it yourself |
| 08:51.47 | Cairenn | pastey the code that you currently have written to do it and people will be more likely to help you figure out why it isn't working |
| 08:52.33 | Cairenn | coming in and demanding that people tell you how to do it won't get you very good results |
| 08:53.03 | Thunder_Child | it will get good results....just now how he is expecting thats all |
| 08:54.54 | Cairenn | one thing that seems to pretty well hold true for almost everyone in the channel is that people are much more likely to try to *teach* you how to do it yourself, rather than do it for you |
| 08:55.56 | Cairenn | and as such, have very little patience with people that aren't willing to try to figure it out on their own, and don't have any time for people that *demand* things |
| 08:56.05 | Cairenn | be respectful when asking for help |
| 08:56.17 | BugerMan | in the case that I never wrote to lua (write on + + c #), I can blow as one of FontStrings do not understand the principle task of coordinates |
| 08:58.02 | BugerMan | escheb but it is nothing but how to rotate them if you do not fit? |
| 08:58.56 | Cairenn | unfortunately you've also come in at a time when it's very quiet in channel, the majority of people are afk |
| 09:00.58 | BugerMan | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/95484 |
| 09:04.14 | Maldivia | BugerMan: your call to SetAllPoints means that your FontString will be anchored to fill the entire MainFrame |
| 09:04.37 | Maldivia | BugerMan: if you want to position them individually, then you shouldn't call SetAllPoints |
| 09:05.46 | BugerMan | so I understand himself) are just as record point right? |
| 09:06.11 | Maldivia | BugerMan: and as for an example of SetPoint: text:SetPoint("LEFT", MainFrame, "RIGHT", 0, 0) <-- this means that the left side of text will be put against the right side of MainFrame |
| 09:07.57 | BugerMan | 0, 0 - offset? |
| 09:08.04 | Maldivia | text:SetText("LEFT", MainFrame, "RIGTH", 20, 0) <-- still left side of text will be put against right side of MainFrame, but this time it's moved 20 points on the x-axis (horizontal line) |
| 09:08.10 | Maldivia | yes, the 0, 0 is the offset |
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| 09:08.44 | AlexanderYoshi | Hi |
| 09:08.48 | AlexanderYoshi | How are you guys doing? |
| 09:09.23 | Maldivia | most are sleeping I think :) |
| 09:09.23 | Cairenn | hey AlexanderYoshi :) |
| 09:09.51 | Cairenn | how goes your weekend thus far? |
| 09:10.22 | BugerMan | I understood, thanks) and even then tell fontString limit the size of text input? |
| 09:12.41 | Maldivia | BugerMan: if you specify a fixed size for the fontstring (either directly with SetWidth/SetHeight, or indirectly by anchor contraints), the text will be cut off at that point and 3 dots will appear to indicate the text was cut off |
| 09:14.02 | zenzelezz | hmmm... "Glyph of Resonating Power - Increases the maximum targets affected by your Thunder Clap ability by 4." -- does that mean your Thunder Clap can hit 8/9 targets with this glyph? :-o |
| 09:14.44 | [SW]Dodge | zenzelezz: i think yes :) |
| 09:15.06 | zenzelezz | that sounds almost too good to be true |
| 09:15.19 | [SW]Dodge | hehe |
| 09:15.51 | BugerMan | in the case shows that not just anything |
| 09:16.00 | BugerMan | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/95485 |
| 09:16.34 | Maldivia | zenzelezz: warrior concecrate :) |
| 09:17.53 | nevcairiel | at the moment, thunder clap is totally over powered |
| 09:17.57 | zenzelezz | Maldivia: yeah \o/ |
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| 09:18.10 | nevcairiel | they also increased the base dmg to 300 |
| 09:18.14 | nevcairiel | that is 600 talented |
| 09:18.19 | nevcairiel | with extra crit chance |
| 09:18.28 | nevcairiel | and AP scaling |
| 09:18.30 | nevcairiel | totally OP |
| 09:19.35 | zenzelezz | it does sound a bit much, but they did emphasize (prot) damage increase as an important part of the warrior changes |
| 09:20.27 | jaxdahl | doesn't sound too much different than howling blast for DKs |
| 09:20.42 | Maldivia | BugerMan: no diea |
| 09:20.44 | Maldivia | idea* |
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| 09:24.44 | Maldivia | Chilly is cute :) |
| 09:26.17 | nevcairiel | Hmm comparing my settings in .wtf, the gfx should be the same |
| 09:26.23 | nevcairiel | yet i get those ugly low quality textures |
| 09:26.36 | Fisker- | no u are totally overpowered |
| 09:29.33 | cladhaire | so I need money |
| 09:29.34 | cladhaire | what can I farm? |
| 09:29.54 | Thunder_Child | tobaco |
| 09:29.59 | Industrial | cladhaire: what tradeskill? |
| 09:29.59 | cladhaire | like 1k gold ish |
| 09:29.59 | Thunder_Child | tabaco* |
| 09:30.04 | cladhaire | is what i need |
| 09:30.08 | cladhaire | I'm skinner/miner |
| 09:30.18 | nevcairiel | get adamantite |
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| 09:30.51 | Industrial | meh skinning is great for leveling but not really super at 70 imo. If you've got mining i'd say level JC :3 |
| 09:31.20 | cladhaire | Industrial: I neeed money.. dont need to _spend_ money |
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| 09:31.51 | cladhaire | nevcairiel: I dont have epic flier.. so I'm at a severe disadvantage for that |
| 09:31.59 | nevcairiel | hrm |
| 09:32.10 | cladhaire | thats what i'm trying to get actually :P |
| 09:33.00 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 09:33.02 | cladhaire | i could go quest in SMV |
| 09:33.05 | cladhaire | haven't done a single quest there |
| 09:33.09 | Industrial | oh then yes |
| 09:33.13 | Industrial | smv is about 1.2k gold |
| 09:33.24 | cladhaire | sold! |
| 09:33.27 | Industrial | :) |
| 09:33.29 | cladhaire | :P |
| 09:33.32 | cladhaire | after i get another 2k honor |
| 09:33.50 | Industrial | my desktop hd is broken, no wow :( |
| 09:33.56 | nevcairiel | Yeah i just went questiong when i saved money for my second epic |
| 09:35.51 | cladhaire | and I'm almost honored with scryers |
| 09:35.53 | cladhaire | so this'll pump that up |
| 09:36.10 | Industrial | anyone know how wow runs on a macbook? |
| 09:36.27 | Industrial | I have no idea what kind of gpu this thing has :p |
| 09:36.49 | cladhaire | it runs quite well on a mbp |
| 09:36.56 | cladhaire | shouldn't be bad on the mb, actually |
| 09:37.13 | Industrial | k |
| 09:40.52 | Maldivia | haha... cooking: Haunting Herring - Use: Haunting Herring makes you scared. |
| 09:41.31 | Maldivia | Bad Clams makes you angry, Tasty Cupcake makes you happy, Last Week's Mammoth makes you sad :) |
| 09:42.49 | nevcairiel | Wonder if those are good for something |
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| 09:49.13 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 09:49.23 | cladhaire | I need someone to do the starting Ogrila quests with me |
| 09:49.42 | Maldivia | which server, what faction? |
| 09:49.54 | cladhaire | alliance ravencrest eu |
| 09:50.04 | cladhaire | maybe haste and steino will log in and help :P |
| 09:50.08 | cladhaire | considering Industrial left us! |
| 09:50.25 | haste | I need those myself :p |
| 09:50.30 | Maldivia | hmm... I can meet 2 out of 3 criteria :) |
| 09:50.30 | cladhaire | haste: ooh! |
| 09:50.50 | haste | not at home now however! |
| 09:50.54 | haste | so let me SCP my addons over first :p |
| 09:50.57 | cladhaire | no problem |
| 09:51.02 | cladhaire | hehe i'm in AV |
| 09:51.06 | cladhaire | so it'll be 20 minutes |
| 09:51.10 | cladhaire | but I can afk out if we're ready to go :P |
| 09:51.10 | haste | scp-ing will take at least 10 |
| 09:51.19 | haste | and we need a tank :p |
| 09:51.30 | cladhaire | truth |
| 09:51.36 | cladhaire | tho i could probably scrap feral gear together |
| 09:51.43 | cladhaire | but thats not fun |
| 09:52.24 | BugerMan | tell which function will return width frame |
| 09:52.35 | Maldivia | frame:GetWidth() |
| 09:53.44 | haste | heh |
| 09:53.55 | haste | addons.tar.gz - 42M |
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| 09:54.24 | haste | ETA: 22min \:D/ |
| 09:54.29 | cladhaire | k k |
| 09:54.41 | haste | guess I have share running on my laptop :( |
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| 09:57.08 | Industrial | @cladhaire> considering Industrial left us! |
| 09:57.14 | BugerMan | now Addon studio ...)) codecompletion not show it and I thought well |
| 09:57.17 | Industrial | yah well my druid has been 39 for a LONG time now :P |
| 09:57.30 | cladhaire | Industrial: interesting in lveling at all? |
| 09:57.36 | Industrial | specced balance but cba t level cause 1 mob OOM's me :P |
| 09:57.36 | cladhaire | my Tom is 34 or so |
| 09:57.40 | Industrial | eheh |
| 09:57.41 | cladhaire | enhancement |
| 09:57.46 | cladhaire | you'd make a good team :P |
| 09:58.23 | Industrial | *puts the second wow disk in* |
| 09:59.45 | Industrial | guess I could level the druid instead of the lock (52 now) for wotlk |
| 10:00.26 | cladhaire | well i'm 70 now |
| 10:00.30 | cladhaire | and you took your hunter and ran away! |
| 10:01.01 | Industrial | my hunter was horde and on boulderfist :P |
| 10:01.07 | cladhaire | oh |
| 10:01.10 | Industrial | my main is my shammy on vashj |
| 10:01.10 | cladhaire | i thought it started on RC |
| 10:01.11 | cladhaire | oh well |
| 10:01.14 | cladhaire | hahaha |
| 10:01.19 | cladhaire | you're effing everywhere dude |
| 10:01.23 | Industrial | :p |
| 10:01.39 | Industrial | yeh that kinda sucks hen rolling an alt, no funds :p |
| 10:01.42 | Industrial | when* |
| 10:02.03 | Industrial | but I knew some people RL on vashj and they mde me roll a shammy there in january |
| 10:02.54 | Industrial | sham is resto, doing MH atm but resto i booooooring |
| 10:03.05 | Industrial | guild wont let me spec dps tho :( |
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| 10:06.50 | AlexanderYoshi | My weekend has been Crunchtastic city |
| 10:06.59 | AlexanderYoshi | Hey, does anyone here know the guy who runs WWS? |
| 10:07.45 | AlexanderYoshi | Okay, well, I gotta head home |
| 10:08.09 | AlexanderYoshi | But if someone could ask him nicely to update WWS for the LK Beta, there's no plans to change the combat log format again. |
| 10:08.11 | AlexanderYoshi | Cheers |
| 10:08.23 | AlexanderYoshi | (and I think the raid team could use some good raid dps parses) |
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| 10:14.21 | Ycarene | Wow, they changed the assassination tree ALL around. |
| 10:15.02 | Ycarene | and the moved dual wield spec to the top. |
| 10:18.20 | cladhaire | haste: eta? |
| 10:18.28 | haste | done |
| 10:18.35 | cladhaire | cool, AV just finished. |
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| 10:19.12 | cladhaire | gonna fly to the questgiver |
| 10:20.44 | haste | which is where :D ? |
| 10:20.46 | haste | BEM? |
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| 10:21.30 | cladhaire | yeah at the circle of blood |
| 10:21.38 | cladhaire | just get that quest from the big ogre in lower city |
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| 10:22.18 | haste | think I've done that part at least :p |
| 10:22.48 | cladhaire | hehe |
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| 10:52.11 | haste | mmm |
| 10:52.13 | foxlit | they voiced Arthas! |
| 10:52.19 | haste | oh shi- |
| 10:52.41 | foxlit | along with the rest of the LHC encounter |
| 10:54.37 | cladhaire | nayce |
| 10:54.45 | sacarasc | the large hadron collider encounter? ;o |
| 10:54.49 | cladhaire | did they finally give him more than a human male laugh? |
| 10:54.59 | cladhaire | cause that was disappointing :P |
| 10:55.37 | foxlit | meh, his model had greetings et al since last build |
| 10:56.25 | foxlit | The Light of Dawn, on the other hand, was silent |
| 10:56.45 | cladhaire | no he laughed at LHC |
| 10:56.48 | cladhaire | thats waht i'm talking about |
| 10:56.53 | cladhaire | it was terrible |
| 10:57.25 | foxlit | I'd imagine the standard DK modulation is at ork there now |
| 10:58.02 | foxlit | And yo no longer collapse at the end of that. Awesome. |
| 11:00.50 | foxlit | latest build: button:SetTextFontObject is now button:SetNormalFontObject |
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| 11:33.26 | foxlit | Meh, strange. |
| 11:33.56 | foxlit | I've had the following line in release code for a month or so now, and no one complained yet :/ |
| 11:34.02 | foxlit | local LBF = LibStub("LibButtonFacade",true); |
| 11:58.10 | Maldivia | uhh...11sec lifeblooms now... |
| 12:04.37 | foxlit | Awesome, awesome! |
| 12:05.16 | foxlit | Now they just need to slap on "only y targets can be affected by lifebloom at a time", and they'd be done |
| 12:06.16 | Corgan | uh |
| 12:06.17 | Corgan | wait |
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| 12:06.24 | Corgan | can you have more than one of the same glyph? |
| 12:08.59 | cbreak | no |
| 12:09.03 | cbreak | not installed |
| 12:09.06 | Corgan | error message? |
| 12:09.06 | cbreak | but they stack to 5 |
| 12:09.22 | cbreak | I got an error, but don't remember the message |
| 12:16.31 | Maldivia | "That Glyph is already in use in another socket." |
| 12:16.41 | Corgan | :D |
| 12:19.33 | Maldivia | I'd wish DKs would stop crashing the server |
| 12:19.57 | foxlit | meep, you have urgent business in EK? |
| 12:20.09 | Corgan | DKs are crashing the server? |
| 12:21.03 | Maldivia | don't know if they fixed it yet, but unholy blighht rank 2 crashes the server |
| 12:21.11 | Maldivia | so unholy DKs level 70-75 |
| 12:21.20 | Lyn | no it doesnt crash the server |
| 12:23.41 | foxlit | Northrend falls over faster than it reboots, the new DK quests in EK are a pain, too |
| 12:24.25 | Maldivia | Lyn: well, a lot of people seems to disagree with you on that |
| 12:24.54 | Lyn | Maldivia, Yesterday I played as unholy (72) and could use unholy blight as much as I want |
| 12:24.56 | Lyn | no crash |
| 12:24.56 | Lyn | so |
| 12:24.59 | Lyn | no it doesnt. |
| 12:26.49 | Maldivia | yesterday, as in 8885 ? |
| 12:27.00 | nevcairiel | New build, new bugs |
| 12:27.36 | nevcairiel | thats why the realm crashes all the time, its always up until the first DK logs in and uses the spell |
| 12:28.30 | Lyn | ah, okay, my bad, misunderstood you a little maldivia.. sry |
| 12:29.49 | foxlit | Meh, I wonder what kind of show they're running with their server software |
| 12:30.23 | foxlit | It'd be at least interesting if it could self-diagnose and disable things that cause it to crash. |
| 12:31.38 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: btw, minor bug with BT - if I put a spell with a casting time on my hotbar that forces me to leave my current form (for instance roots in tree form), the yellow border stays around the button when the bar switches to caster-form-bar |
| 12:32.09 | Lyn | i cant even respec my shammy :< |
| 12:32.21 | nevcairiel | Hm I'll test it when the realm is stable enough =P |
| 12:32.46 | Lyn | nevcairiel, with release? :P |
| 12:32.53 | nevcairiel | no, with removal of all DKs |
| 12:33.00 | Lyn | mh, good point ;) |
| 12:33.02 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: just be on kalimdor - haven't crashed yet :) |
| 12:33.16 | nevcairiel | i cba to teleport to moonglade! |
| 12:33.17 | nevcairiel | :) |
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| 12:33.58 | Maldivia | was standing in moonglade earlier, and was seeing people in dalaran, outland and stormwind disconnect left and right :) |
| 12:34.39 | Lyn | mh.. stormwind has now a boat to auberdine, right? |
| 12:34.45 | nevcairiel | thats because kaly is totally unpopular |
| 12:35.41 | nevcairiel | I hope they hotfix the shit as soon as the US devs wake up |
| 12:36.36 | foxlit | they wake up on saturdays? |
| 12:38.28 | nevcairiel | for crucial stuff like that, i guess |
| 12:39.04 | Lyn | stockades should be stable too, right? :o |
| 12:41.11 | Maldivia | depends on if DKs are doing instances , and it takes down the entire instance server or just the instance they are in :) |
| 12:41.26 | Maldivia | or any other class with abilities that can crash :) |
| 12:41.51 | Nom- | Oops. I think I crashed Northrend |
| 12:42.02 | Nom- | Penguin is buggy |
| 12:42.09 | foxlit | Well, on the bright side, no one is in storm peaks! |
| 12:43.42 | nevcairiel | SP was already closed agian, afaik |
| 12:45.05 | Lyn | aww an 23 elite mob killed my feral wolves :< |
| 12:45.10 | Lyn | *spirit wolves |
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| 13:40.55 | Lyn | everytime i start fallout 2 setup my pc nearly crash :< |
| 13:42.03 | Lyn | ah nice works now :x |
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| 14:03.15 | ckknight | can we make premades now? |
| 14:05.22 | cladhaire | have been able to for a few days, yes |
| 14:05.45 | ckknight | 0 copies remaining for me |
| 14:07.42 | nevcairiel | hey i was able to finish 2 quests before some DK used blight again |
| 14:08.07 | zenzelezz | ..? |
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| 14:08.17 | nevcairiel | Using blight crashes the world server |
| 14:08.18 | foxlit | hm, coldarra? |
| 14:08.25 | nevcairiel | apparently |
| 14:08.45 | nevcairiel | ya coldarra |
| 14:09.07 | foxlit | That might not have been what happened, but heck, I can't check any better than you can :) |
| 14:09.31 | nevcairiel | well alot of people report that they have been on continents that dont crash constantly, use blight, bam gone |
| 14:13.19 | nevcairiel | Interesting |
| 14:13.21 | nevcairiel | Overkill |
| 14:13.35 | nevcairiel | more dmg done then HP, heh |
| 14:14.33 | cbreak | That server is so overload, it can't stay online for more than five mins :/ |
| 14:15.39 | WobWork | I <3 flightform |
| 14:15.48 | WobWork | it makes dropping from extreme heights a challenge |
| 14:15.50 | nevcairiel | the servers are not overloaded |
| 14:16.08 | nevcairiel | there is just a bug that makes the world server crash every few minutes |
| 14:17.23 | cbreak | yes, because the server is overloaded |
| 14:17.36 | nevcairiel | no |
| 14:17.48 | cbreak | if there was a bug with normal load, it would have been detected in internal testing |
| 14:18.07 | nevcairiel | they cannot even test "normal load" |
| 14:18.11 | nevcairiel | they dont have thousand testers |
| 14:19.50 | foxlit | but tbh, they could test "normal load" |
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| 14:20.16 | foxlit | It's just that it'd require some trickery that they don't currently do. |
| 14:21.04 | nevcairiel | Whatever is causing the current crash issue is definately not due to overloaded servers. I doubt that in the 2 minutes the server is always up, a million people connect again |
| 14:21.15 | nevcairiel | login is never slow |
| 14:21.20 | nevcairiel | it doesnt lag in game |
| 14:21.25 | nevcairiel | it just dies again |
| 14:21.45 | cbreak | it takes over a min to log in here |
| 14:21.51 | nevcairiel | Its some bug in some spell or event, be it unholy blight or not |
| 14:21.53 | cbreak | unless it fails as it does so often |
| 14:22.06 | foxlit | Something kills it, rather than it dying of natural reasons |
| 14:22.34 | cbreak | well, every time the server dies, I just wanted to move |
| 14:23.52 | nevcairiel | I bet its one of their exception handling routines, catch exception, file report to dev, restart the bitch |
| 14:25.00 | cbreak | great, now the server was up less than 20 secs :/ |
| 14:25.06 | cbreak | and there was even a rollback |
| 14:25.30 | nevcairiel | it always rolls back for like 1-2 minutes for me |
| 14:26.58 | cbreak | I wonder if the old world or outland stay alive |
| 14:29.55 | nevcairiel | they do, mostly |
| 14:30.03 | nevcairiel | sometimes crash too, when some DK is leveling there |
| 14:30.30 | nevcairiel | Eastern Kingdoms crash due to new stuff in the DK zone |
| 14:30.34 | nevcairiel | Kalimdor is pretty safe |
| 14:30.55 | cbreak | why is there a "Dalaran Restricted flight zone" in shat? lame... |
| 14:31.25 | cbreak | oh, and terrokar :/ |
| 14:31.45 | cladhaire | what does that mean? |
| 14:32.22 | cbreak | I have a debuff that makes noise when I fly around |
| 14:32.30 | cbreak | and gives me a second debuf. |
| 14:34.58 | jaxdahl | nevcairiel, it's apparently because of unholy blight rank 2 |
| 14:35.17 | jaxdahl | rank 1 and 3 don't crash it |
| 14:35.27 | nevcairiel | cbreak: i had that too after fyling into wintergrasp, didnt disappear again until i died |
| 14:35.51 | cbreak | It went away when I landed, but now I have it again while flying around in SMV |
| 14:40.06 | Pez | LF CSS guru. >__> |
| 14:41.56 | cbreak | is the mana regen from water elemental implemented? It doesn't seem to regen anything |
| 14:45.06 | zenzelezz | Pez: guru? o_O |
| 14:45.39 | Pez | zenzelezz: someone who knows CSS |
| 14:45.56 | Pez | and can help me out with understanding a couple of things. |
| 14:45.57 | zenzelezz | I was more trying to ask "what sort of problem are you having that requires an expert"? |
| 14:46.09 | Pez | I'll show you! |
| 14:46.21 | Pez | http://dev.webmistress.no/wordpress/ |
| 14:46.53 | Pez | Now, see how there's a 20px margin from the top of the #header element (dark box) |
| 14:47.22 | Pez | (the one with the red border) |
| 14:47.34 | zenzelezz | yes? |
| 14:47.38 | Pez | On the parent element of that, there's a blue border, riight at the top. |
| 14:47.46 | Pez | I'll go remove the border on that element, and only that. |
| 14:48.05 | Pez | Now refresh and look what happened. :P |
| 14:48.54 | Pez | It... does something weird. |
| 14:48.56 | Syzgyn | I *love* how a 100MB patch takes up over 3GB of disk space :( |
| 14:49.30 | wereHamster | how come? |
| 14:49.31 | zenzelezz | Pez: do you use Firefox with Firebug? |
| 14:49.46 | Syzgyn | wereHamster: eh? |
| 14:49.51 | Pez | zenzelezz: I do, actually. |
| 14:50.00 | wereHamster | Syzgyn: who sais it's 100MB and who sais it's 3GB? |
| 14:50.26 | Syzgyn | Windows does? |
| 14:50.27 | foxlit | It patches out-of-place |
| 14:50.35 | Syzgyn | Yeah, and its annoying |
| 14:50.45 | foxlit | No, it's the only sane thing to do |
| 14:50.56 | Syzgyn | Doesnt make it any less annoying |
| 14:51.03 | wereHamster | windows does what? Say it's 100MB and 3GB at the same time? |
| 14:51.06 | zenzelezz | Pez: nevermind, I was thinking incorrectly |
| 14:51.25 | Syzgyn | The patch file is 111MB. While its patching it eats up over 3GB of my HDD space |
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| 14:51.46 | zenzelezz | extracting data, copying temporary data from old data files perhaps? |
| 14:51.53 | wereHamster | ah. So they zipped the data pretty tightly |
| 14:52.02 | zenzelezz | or you have an incredibly fragmented partition |
| 14:52.16 | Syzgyn | I dont think so |
| 14:52.25 | haste | it makes a copy before it patches |
| 14:52.30 | cbreak | does magic absorbtion work for anyone? |
| 14:52.33 | Pez | zenzelezz: the thing is, I don't understand how removing the border on the parent element could have that effect. |
| 14:52.59 | zenzelezz | Syzgyn: think about what it has to do to the file, if it has to change anything at all on the existing data then it might have to rewrite the entire file |
| 14:53.06 | Syzgyn | cbreak: I read that as 'magic abortion' :( |
| 14:53.19 | cbreak | that is unfortunate. |
| 14:54.11 | Syzgyn | zenzelezz: I know thats all its doing, its still annoying that I have to delete more shit off my drive so it can patch a relatively small amount./ |
| 14:54.36 | foxlit | get a bigger hard drive :) |
| 14:54.39 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:54.40 | zenzelezz | Syzgyn: that I can agree to, but sadly there's no easy way around it |
| 14:54.53 | haste | how can you not have 3G of free space :p ? |
| 14:54.54 | Syzgyn | I need a new PC alltogether |
| 14:55.00 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:55.09 | Syzgyn | The partition is 40GB |
| 14:55.20 | haste | sounds new! |
| 14:55.40 | zenzelezz | games these days take a lot of space. WoW and AoC together took somewhere between 40 and 50 GB on my games partition |
| 14:55.47 | Neuro_Medivh | don't suppose Northrend magically got more stable overnight eh? |
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| 14:57.18 | Fisker- | btw |
| 14:57.23 | Fisker- | 3.0.2 is labeled release now >:3 |
| 14:57.37 | cbreak | labeled? |
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| 14:58.28 | Fisker- | cbreak you know at the login screen :P |
| 14:58.36 | cbreak | even alpha had release assertions enabled I think |
| 14:59.36 | Fisker- | This build doesn't have assertions enabled |
| 14:59.48 | Fisker- | it's only labeled "Release" and not "Release Assertions Enabled" |
| 15:01.49 | ScytheBlade1 | beta server still crashing every two minutes? |
| 15:03.15 | cbreak | I was online in outland for several minutes |
| 15:03.45 | cbreak | the server seems to crash when I am in dalaran. sorry for that :) |
| 15:04.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Eh, if the forums are correct |
| 15:04.17 | ScytheBlade1 | A DK ability crashes the server effortlessly |
| 15:04.36 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: so they disabled the assertions, doesnt mean much tbh :P |
| 15:06.38 | cbreak | they probably left one in. assert(position("cbreak")!="Dalaran") |
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| 15:13.42 | Syzgyn | No storm peaks still eh? |
| 15:17.32 | WobWork | hm |
| 15:17.40 | WobWork | wtb auctionhouse data sharding |
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| 15:22.28 | cbreak | hmm... blizzard removed my conjure water spell... |
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| 15:29.43 | cbreak | what the hell... guards in stormwind throw vegetables at me |
| 15:31.06 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:31.37 | Anaral | That's what you get for being a deathknight. |
| 15:32.59 | cbreak | I am a mage... |
| 15:33.05 | Stanzilla | they do it for non dks, too |
| 15:33.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Wait really? |
| 15:33.32 | Anaral | Oh... um seek vengence on them. |
| 15:34.11 | Nom- | They're indicating that you need to eat, cbreak. |
| 15:34.36 | Nom- | If you were undead, this would be a problem. Any dead body will do. |
| 15:34.36 | cbreak | I don't want to know what they desire to indicate with spitting on me. |
| 15:35.34 | Nom- | hmm... to drunk to write code, not drunk enough to play D2 |
| 15:35.40 | Nom- | There's only one thing for it |
| 15:37.46 | ScytheBlade1 | That was depressing |
| 15:37.59 | ScytheBlade1 | I log in to <Swift Spectral Gryphon> and <No Man's Land> |
| 15:38.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Now I'm dead, on the ground, in the Tundra |
| 15:38.20 | ScytheBlade1 | With... my body in Icecrown |
| 15:38.37 | Throngy | ScytheBlade1: That was some night, eh? |
| 15:38.51 | ScytheBlade1 | truf |
| 15:39.03 | cbreak | ScytheBlade1: I found an item that teleported me far out west of silvermoon, way outside fatigue line |
| 15:39.35 | Nom- | DK FTMFW |
| 15:39.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh? |
| 15:39.45 | Nom- | Path of Frost is the best skill in the history of WoW |
| 15:40.04 | cbreak | elixir of waterwalking? :) |
| 15:40.16 | Nom- | No, because you can't mount with that, afaik |
| 15:40.26 | Nom- | Path of Frost works while mounted |
| 15:40.39 | Sixen | Hai |
| 15:40.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Hai |
| 15:41.14 | Sixen | =] |
| 15:41.19 | Sixen | How's it going, sbo? |
| 15:41.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Ghost running to the nearest spirit res in the Tundra |
| 15:41.40 | ScytheBlade1 | To likely be ressed back in Icecrown |
| 15:41.43 | Sixen | Ouch, just read what you said ^ too, :(. |
| 15:41.45 | ScytheBlade1 | And in turn ported back to the tundra |
| 15:42.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Mmm, beta |
| 15:42.31 | ScytheBlade1 | s/Ghost running/Ghost running with the server crashing every other minute/ |
| 15:42.52 | ScytheBlade1 | They should just disable Death Knights entirely until they can patch it -.- |
| 15:43.18 | foxlit | they should disable everyone else so the whining stops :) |
| 15:43.30 | Nom- | yay for built-in threat meter |
| 15:43.31 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 15:43.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Wait that can't be it |
| 15:43.35 | Nom- | . /console showThreatMeter 1 |
| 15:43.42 | ScytheBlade1 | The DK starting area is fine |
| 15:43.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Unless that ability requires a higher level that is |
| 15:46.49 | Nom- | what ability is it again ? |
| 15:46.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Plague Strike iirc |
| 15:47.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Err no, Blight something |
| 15:47.07 | nevcairiel | Didnt they remote the threat-meter this build? |
| 15:47.12 | nevcairiel | *remove |
| 15:47.16 | Nom- | Unholy Blight ... ok |
| 15:47.33 | nevcairiel | Unholy Blight Rank2 crashes |
| 15:47.39 | nevcairiel | 1 and 3 are supposedly fine |
| 15:47.58 | Nom- | Unholy Blight is a talent i think |
| 15:48.19 | foxlit | rank 1 is a talent, further ranks are trainable given the talent :) |
| 15:48.45 | Nom- | That's how talents work... |
| 15:48.46 | Nom- | :P |
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| 15:50.02 | Anaral | So wait, we're crashing every other minute due to rank 2 of Unholy Blight? |
| 15:50.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes. |
| 15:50.14 | foxlit | Indeed, it's the usual talent-with-extra-ranks mechanic :) |
| 15:53.46 | Nom- | blizz will hotfix it sooner or later |
| 15:53.56 | Nom- | They're probably waiting for the build to finish now |
| 15:54.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Maybe... maybe not.. |
| 15:54.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Maybe we'll have a 1MB build on Monday |
| 15:54.19 | Nom- | oh yeah, it's saturday |
| 15:54.22 | Nom- | yeah probably right |
| 15:54.30 | Nom- | i keep thinking it's friday arvo in US |
| 15:54.33 | nevcairiel | its a server crash, i bet they can hotfix it |
| 15:55.27 | Stanzilla | [17:43:16] <Nom-> . /console showThreatMeter 1 < does nothing for me :( |
| 15:55.47 | nevcairiel | the whole threat meter file was removed in the latest build |
| 15:55.56 | Nom- | Which kinda sucks |
| 15:55.58 | Nom- | :~( |
| 15:56.33 | Stanzilla | uh, any blue post with reasons? |
| 15:56.50 | nevcairiel | the threat ui was never officially in |
| 15:56.52 | nevcairiel | so no |
| 15:57.14 | wereHamster | can't you rip out the lua/xml code from the last build and create an addon? |
| 15:57.29 | foxlit | Assuming API is around, sure |
| 15:57.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Ugh, so, I think I figured out why my guild is failing on constructs |
| 15:57.43 | nevcairiel | the tooltip and party indicators are still there |
| 15:57.46 | nevcairiel | so yeah API is there |
| 15:57.49 | ScytheBlade1 | A bunch of them are using the arrow keys to turn, mouse to target, and 1-5 to cast -.- |
| 15:57.53 | foxlit | Complete lack of skill? :) |
| 15:58.15 | ScytheBlade1 | It's like keyboard turning... but worse |
| 15:58.20 | foxlit | s/skill/understanding of game mechanics/ |
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| 16:02.45 | Gnarfoz | yay |
| 16:02.49 | Gnarfoz | wowprogramming arrived :) |
| 16:04.19 | Nom- | lol |
| 16:04.26 | Nom- | i nailed constructs on my first time ever |
| 16:04.29 | Nom- | soooo easy |
| 16:04.51 | Neuro_Medivh | Scythe, there's a training website for constructs you know |
| 16:05.23 | Nom- | that only helps with the cast rotations |
| 16:05.30 | Nom- | doesn't help with the unco people who can't play games :P |
| 16:05.50 | Neuro_Medivh | well, tbh, you shouldn't be guilded with THOSE sorts =) |
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| 16:24.10 | Neuro_Medivh | sigh, bartender is now all fubar on beta... |
| 16:24.21 | nevcairiel | lies! |
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| 16:25.17 | Neuro_Medivh | well, it's great if I want every button to be the same =) |
| 16:25.32 | nevcairiel | That sounds like you need to update |
| 16:26.02 | Tuller | nanananananananana |
| 16:26.17 | Neuro_Medivh | I just did update |
| 16:26.22 | nevcairiel | From? |
| 16:26.30 | Neuro_Medivh | svn.wowace.com |
| 16:26.49 | Neuro_Medivh | wotlk branch of bartender4 |
| 16:27.01 | nevcairiel | Then you need to get a error-catching addon and tell me what you see |
| 16:27.07 | Anaral | lol |
| 16:27.26 | Anaral | Catch a falling error and put it in your pocket. |
| 16:27.45 | Neuro_Medivh | [2008/09/06 11:14:19-314-x3]: Bartender4-4.0\buttonPrototypes\ActionButton.lua:229: attempt to concatenate local 'state' (a nil value)Bartender4-4.0\buttonPrototypes\ActionButton.lua:141: in function <...\AddOns\Bartender4\buttonPrototypes\ActionButton.lua:135> |
| 16:27.59 | nevcairiel | thats not the branch |
| 16:28.02 | Neuro_Medivh | that's from buggrabber |
| 16:28.02 | nevcairiel | thats the live version |
| 16:28.19 | Anaral | *is in really weird mood, pardon the random song lines, blame it on TS Hannah |
| 16:29.15 | Neuro_Medivh | nev, I'll dbl check to see if the svn downloaded correctly, but I did just grab the latest version |
| 16:29.19 | nevcairiel | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Bartender4/WotlK/ |
| 16:29.21 | Neuro_Medivh | maybe it put it in the wrong spot |
| 16:29.25 | Anaral | I was going to actually try Bartender4 on beta this weekend... but um, need more than 2 minutes at a time online without getting kicked for any real progress. |
| 16:29.26 | Neuro_Medivh | that's where I got it from |
| 16:29.32 | nevcairiel | well i moved some files around, and that file is no longer at that place |
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| 16:30.10 | nevcairiel | also, its 4.1 now |
| 16:30.11 | nevcairiel | ;) |
| 16:30.11 | Anaral | Morning Shirik |
| 16:30.22 | Stanzilla | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/september/naxxramasv2_sets.jpg |
| 16:30.26 | Stanzilla | LOL @ shaman and DK |
| 16:30.29 | Stanzilla | nice placeholders :P |
| 16:30.39 | Neuro_Medivh | ahh, I see what happened... it put the new version inside Bartender4/Wotlk |
| 16:30.54 | Neuro_Medivh | so it's one level down |
| 16:31.01 | cbreak | that paladin looks ... vulnerable |
| 16:32.14 | cladhaire | nah just hardcore |
| 16:32.20 | Fisker- | paladins are hot when naked >:3 |
| 16:32.30 | Fisker- | what happened to new models though? |
| 16:33.40 | nevcairiel | They already said that Naxx will re-use T3, so thats old news |
| 16:33.47 | nevcairiel | 10 man in a different color is kinda logical |
| 16:33.59 | cladhaire | NO U |
| 16:34.04 | Shirik | So I think I severely f'ed up my filesystem |
| 16:34.14 | cbreak | backup! |
| 16:34.23 | nevcairiel | Shirik: are you hosting the beta servers? that would explain stuff.. :p |
| 16:35.30 | Shirik | This is the output of "ls ?*" http://images.gammatester.com/pics/5e200c9864e29a46bc667ecc43ac5fb9.jpg |
| 16:35.36 | Shirik | All of it I expect... until the end |
| 16:35.52 | foxlit | did you kill that server, too? |
| 16:36.03 | Shirik | ls -l shows |
| 16:36.03 | Shirik | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 Aug 5 14:26 ?;^}<??????????)??? |
| 16:36.39 | cbreak | funny. maybe it contains unicode glyphs and you use an incompatible terminal |
| 16:36.49 | Anaral | nevcairiel: Does Bar4 need to have the libs embedded or can I run it disembedded? |
| 16:36.58 | Anaral | On Beta |
| 16:37.12 | Shirik | ah! Found it! |
| 16:37.12 | nevcairiel | both should work, however loading of opt-deps on beta is still kinda broken |
| 16:37.13 | Fisker- | nevcairiel i thought they said exactly that they wouldn't |
| 16:37.25 | Shirik | mpdelbuono@li23-154 ~ $ ls ò\;\^\}\<î¼õËú· |
| 16:37.25 | Shirik | ??o?C?J??T???B=0>??\.???.>?~7????? Z??S?;_????????--?????%?\??jl??!E?AL??!???w?X |
| 16:37.27 | Shirik | lol |
| 16:37.57 | Shirik | It's a security feature imo |
| 16:37.59 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: you remember wrong |
| 16:38.11 | cbreak | what do you mean? |
| 16:38.14 | nevcairiel | can you open it? :p |
| 16:38.15 | Fogger | imba password |
| 16:44.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: break less stuff |
| 16:45.56 | Anaral | Does the regular Button Facade work with beta, yet? |
| 16:48.28 | cladhaire | what is button facade |
| 16:48.31 | cladhaire | and whats it look like? |
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| 16:48.49 | nevcairiel | its the new cyCircled |
| 16:49.53 | Anaral | *nods* But I can't find confirmation that it works with LK |
| 16:50.20 | nevcairiel | try it? |
| 16:50.21 | nevcairiel | ;) |
| 16:50.28 | nevcairiel | I think it worked for me |
| 16:51.26 | Anaral | Yeah, I guess... if I could stay logged on long enough to even open Bartender 4's settings. >.< |
| 16:51.34 | nevcairiel | go to kalimdor |
| 16:51.36 | nevcairiel | it never crashes |
| 16:51.40 | Anaral | lol |
| 16:51.46 | nevcairiel | srsly |
| 16:51.46 | foxlit | create a new death knight |
| 16:52.33 | Anaral | But I like using my gnome to set up my default settings, since she has everything. |
| 16:52.34 | nevcairiel | Its mostly northrend crashing, occasionally outlands due to some stray DK, and very rarely eastern kingdoms |
| 16:52.37 | nevcairiel | never kalimdor =P |
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| 16:54.34 | Fogger | any issues with using the bliz toolkit on beta? |
| 16:55.43 | Fogger | it doesnt even ask for the wow dir does it, must get from registry |
| 16:56.02 | nevcairiel | I had to rename my beta to the normal wow dir |
| 16:56.08 | nevcairiel | to get it to extract |
| 16:56.15 | Fogger | thanks |
| 16:56.50 | Fogger | a temporary registry edit could do the trick too |
| 16:56.56 | Anaral | I just moved the Addon Kit.exe to the WotLK folder, it downloaded it there |
| 16:57.15 | Fogger | mmm, I didnt think it cared where it ran from |
| 16:57.49 | Fogger | I run it from a rar file * it still plants the new files in my wow dir |
| 16:57.49 | Anaral | I tried it, it worked, and it is the lk data/art files |
| 16:58.01 | Fogger | thanks for info |
| 16:58.24 | Anaral | Then run it from C://Program Files/WotLK/Addon Kit.exe |
| 16:58.47 | Fogger | or E:\Wrath of the Lich King Beta in my case |
| 16:59.11 | Fogger | nix user? :) |
| 16:59.29 | Anaral | Well then |
| 16:59.47 | Tem | so, beta server stability today? |
| 17:00.09 | Anaral | nevcairiel: Anway to not have the bars 'lock' into position? |
| 17:00.09 | nevcairiel | hold shift |
| 17:00.38 | nevcairiel | Tem: crashing every 2 to 5 minutes, due to a bug in some spells |
| 17:00.52 | Tem | spells? |
| 17:00.52 | Tem | oh dear |
| 17:00.58 | nevcairiel | apparently unholy blight rank 2 |
| 17:01.00 | nevcairiel | on the DK |
| 17:01.08 | Tem | oh lol |
| 17:01.11 | Tem | what's wrong with it? |
| 17:01.20 | nevcairiel | its crashing the world server |
| 17:01.22 | Anaral | Thanks nev |
| 17:01.48 | Tem | well that's hillarious |
| 17:01.51 | Tem | is it just rank 2? |
| 17:01.57 | nevcairiel | seems so |
| 17:02.09 | nevcairiel | but you know people "hai look at me, i can crash the server" |
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| 17:02.58 | Tem | I guess I'll stay in the DK starting zone |
| 17:04.06 | Tem | lol ... |
| 17:04.13 | Tem | there's so many blood elf DKs |
| 17:04.22 | duaiwe | belf DK is the new black. |
| 17:04.31 | Tem | there's like 10 of them waiting to kill the person they "knew" in life |
| 17:04.52 | NightHawkTheSane | almost strains that suspension of disbelief, yeah? :p |
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| 17:05.44 | Tem | hmm |
| 17:05.51 | Tem | this quest says that it grants 1 talent point |
| 17:05.55 | Tem | but it instead grants 10 |
| 17:05.56 | Duman | it does |
| 17:06.04 | Duman | eh? |
| 17:06.08 | Duman | did they change them? |
| 17:06.12 | Duman | which quest? |
| 17:06.28 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont recall any quest giving 10 TP at once.. |
| 17:06.42 | Duman | are you sure you didn't have 9 TPs before? |
| 17:08.34 | Tem | wow the lag |
| 17:08.44 | Tem | positive |
| 17:08.53 | Tem | (that it granted 10 tp) |
| 17:09.30 | Tem | this is my 5th or 6th time playing through this area |
| 17:09.44 | Tem | and the last few I've noticed that I gained 10 TP somewhat unexpectedly |
| 17:10.42 | Anaral | Yeah, Tem, I noticed last night on my horde DK on LK, that I had way more TPs than I should. |
| 17:11.09 | Duman | are the servers still crashing like mad? |
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| 17:17.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 17:19.06 | Dashkal | *sigh* this gonna be another week from hell build? |
| 17:19.40 | |pez| | the spell thing is gonna get old really fast... I hope for your sake. |
| 17:20.18 | Duman | if that spell is what's crashing things, I can't imagine they can't fix it with a server-side patch... |
| 17:21.27 | Dashkal | I |
| 17:21.37 | Dashkal | I've seen more than oen theory of what spell it is. |
| 17:21.57 | Jagannath | Anyone here good with SQL queries? |
| 17:22.05 | Anaral | Hmm, the visual effects aren't taking affect. |
| 17:22.09 | Duman | sometimes, what's up, Jag |
| 17:22.32 | Duman | update: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9679738099&pageNo=2&sid=2000#32 |
| 17:22.40 | Jagannath | How can I insert something into all rows in a table? |
| 17:22.47 | nevcairiel | oh yay tigole woke up |
| 17:23.06 | Duman | set your where clause to something that would match all rows :) |
| 17:23.42 | Duman | oh you don't want ot insert |
| 17:23.46 | Duman | you want to update |
| 17:23.55 | Duman | what are you trying to do, exactly? |
| 17:24.00 | Jagannath | Update! |
| 17:24.02 | Jagannath | Lol. |
| 17:24.07 | Jagannath | That's what I thought at first =p |
| 17:25.20 | Jagannath | Something like: UPDATE `blah` SET `blah2` = 1 WHERE `entry` > 1; ? |
| 17:25.22 | Duman | yeah assuming mysql you can do |
| 17:25.26 | Duman | sure |
| 17:25.42 | Shadowed | whooooooooooooooo |
| 17:25.42 | Duman | that should work |
| 17:25.47 | Shadowed | Cancelling buffs unprotected again |
| 17:25.53 | Duman | http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/update.html |
| 17:26.04 | Duman | shadowed: oh, nice |
| 17:27.46 | Anaral | Of course LK is up first |
| 17:30.50 | Dashkal | Until just now, I did not know that Tigole was Kaplan |
| 17:31.01 | Duman | LOL! |
| 17:31.18 | Duman | Unfortunately for DK's, UB Rank 2 now does nothing. |
| 17:31.19 | Dashkal | I should really wowwiki blues more often |
| 17:32.11 | Anaral | Awesome, they fixed the npcs in Stormwind for us nonDKs |
| 17:32.15 | Dashkal | Ok, must get towards 77. Gonna be slower work post nerf *sighs* I just wanna fly |
| 17:32.27 | Jagannath | Hmm, Duman. I can insert new values with UPDATE? I thought you could only change current values with it. |
| 17:32.28 | Duman | ok, back to my DK |
| 17:32.42 | Duman | jag: again, what are you trying to do |
| 17:32.46 | Duman | is this a new column? |
| 17:32.52 | Duman | in an existing row? |
| 17:32.57 | Jagannath | no no |
| 17:33.01 | Duman | o.O |
| 17:33.04 | Jagannath | Trying to add new rows to all entries. |
| 17:33.07 | Jagannath | basically. |
| 17:33.12 | Duman | you're not making sense |
| 17:33.13 | Dashkal | Define 'entry' |
| 17:33.18 | Jagannath | Er. |
| 17:33.18 | Duman | an entry IS a rowe |
| 17:33.19 | Duman | -e |
| 17:33.31 | Jagannath | Sorry my term vocab sucks lol. |
| 17:33.32 | Duman | each row as columns |
| 17:33.38 | Duman | christ I can't type |
| 17:33.39 | Duman | as = has |
| 17:33.39 | Jagannath | Trying to add new rows.. |
| 17:33.42 | Jagannath | Lol. |
| 17:33.47 | Duman | adding a new row = insert |
| 17:33.56 | Duman | you insert rows |
| 17:34.09 | Duman | http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/insert.html |
| 17:36.23 | Duman | you do realize people pointed you that UB was crashing the server... LAST NIGHT... at like 7:30pm |
| 17:38.22 | Neuro_Medivh | yes, but it was friday night... |
| 17:38.40 | Duman | they were working on the crashes all night tho |
| 17:38.46 | Neuro_Medivh | those gin and tonics weren't going to drink themselves! |
| 17:38.49 | Duman | hahahaha |
| 17:39.57 | Neuro_Medivh | "So much drama in the LKB, it's kinda hard being T-ig-o-l-e." |
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| 17:40.08 | Jagannath | Can you have something like, INSERT INTO `users` (`alevel`) VALUES (alevel > 3); |
| 17:43.32 | Dashkal | ok, finally got a look at the DK nerf in action. Blood is just fine. Lower damage, but just fine |
| 17:43.44 | Dashkal | I'm still tearing through shit with zero downtime |
| 17:44.28 | Neuro_Medivh | yeah, but it's like DKs are being turned into Retadins |
| 17:45.59 | Dashkal | Eh, blizzard does this normally. Too far one way, too far the other, then kind of wave back and forth over the mark |
| 17:47.18 | Dashkal | Long as GC and Koraa keep harping on the "every class can raid" train, I won't stress too much. |
| 17:47.18 | Anaral | I don't mind the survey ? boxes, just wish I could move them somewhere else on my screen so I can set up B4 the way I want! |
| 17:47.56 | nevcairiel | just hide the boxes |
| 17:48.25 | Anaral | Yay! They made the frame selectable! |
| 17:48.31 | Anaral | Was able to move it. |
| 17:49.17 | Anaral | Other than being a little cramped, it's done! :D |
| 17:50.16 | foxlit | http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=195920&site=pcg << comedy |
| 17:51.12 | Neuro_Medivh | hmm, didn't notice Oblit was on DRM now |
| 17:51.53 | nevcairiel | mmm EU realm still crashing, not as fast, though |
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| 17:58.35 | Fogger | hey, options on the login screen, thats neat! |
| 17:59.05 | Fogger | surely you cant edit mod options tho |
| 17:59.27 | ccox | I just love how druids, mages and priests are getting spit on as well as the DK |
| 18:00.08 | ccox | "yo, guard, what do you think EXALTED means anyway?" |
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| 18:01.02 | Duman | Jag: please jsut explain (exact example) of whta you're TRYING to do to the table |
| 18:02.57 | Anaral | Hmm, I'm using Prat3.0 on Beta, I have ChatTabs disabled... yet I don't have the default chat tabs... |
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| 18:10.30 | Dashkal | heh, just found your mob in Zul'Drak, Cog |
| 18:11.07 | Fogger | Im getting a msg that addons are experiencing a large amount of errors, tho I dont have any yet. :| |
| 18:11.24 | Fogger | that normal? |
| 18:11.52 | Neuro_Medivh | so, WAR's "Open Beta" isn't really an open beta is it? It's an open beta for people who pre-ordered |
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| 18:13.07 | Tem | sigh |
| 18:13.18 | Tem | even with the new quests, my DK still ends at <level 58 |
| 18:13.45 | foxlit | kill more NPCs |
| 18:13.59 | Tem | on the bright side, however, the battle of light's hope now has the voiceover |
| 18:14.50 | NightHawkTheSane | what foxlit said. :p |
| 18:15.00 | Tem | Neuro_Medivh, that qualifies as Open Beta to me |
| 18:16.40 | Duman | server is still broken |
| 18:16.52 | Dashkal | So I noticed :( |
| 18:17.17 | kd3 | so... UBr2 was crashing the server in addition to stormpeaks and icecrown |
| 18:17.18 | kd3 | eesh |
| 18:17.36 | Duman | yeah :-/ |
| 18:17.48 | Duman | I'm luckily in azeroth right now, but everything is super-lagged |
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| 18:23.07 | ScytheBlade1 | any beta mages: do we have ranks of food/water that produce food/water above level 70..? |
| 18:24.02 | Maldivia | yes |
| 18:24.24 | Anaral | They combined 9 and 10 |
| 18:24.36 | ScytheBlade1 | So my higher rank spells do something now? Yay! |
| 18:24.58 | Maldivia | conjured mana strudel: Use: Restores 15000 health and 12960 mana over 30 sec. Must remain seated while eating. |
| 18:25.19 | kd3 | oh thank the gods... can finally upgrade to something slightly more powerful |
| 18:25.24 | ScytheBlade1 | I might bother to login and level again |
| 18:25.25 | Duman | I think they forgot to disable UB rank 3, too |
| 18:25.59 | Maldivia | also: Conjured Mana Pie (level 75 spell): Use: Restores 13200 health and 9180 mana over 30 sec. Must remain seated while eating. |
| 18:26.20 | Maldivia | the strudels are the level 80 version |
| 18:26.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Yayyyyyyyyyyy |
| 18:26.43 | Thunder_Child | fail naming convention |
| 18:26.50 | ScytheBlade1 | That frees up a pair of keybinds too |
| 18:27.18 | Maldivia | Thunder_Child ? |
| 18:27.54 | Thunder_Child | Maldivia, i dont there should be physical mana products, it's like baking a mana pot into a pie |
| 18:28.12 | kd3 | s/mana/manna/ |
| 18:28.22 | Gnarfoz | :\ |
| 18:28.24 | Maldivia | Conjured Mana Biscuits, Conjured Mana Pie, Conjured Mana Strudel - think the naming is on route |
| 18:28.34 | ccox | kd3 - you had it right the first time |
| 18:28.46 | Gnarfoz | is it really correct that, when I log in while in combat, Grid doesn't work? |
| 18:28.49 | Duman | he's saying what it should be |
| 18:28.53 | Duman | it should be manna and not mana |
| 18:28.57 | [dRaCo] | the next thing is gonna be cake, and it's gonna be a lie |
| 18:29.02 | Gnarfoz | and BT3 throws 1 error per button (100)? (~poke nevcairiel) |
| 18:29.08 | ccox | both are valid spellings |
| 18:29.17 | Duman | for totally different words! |
| 18:29.23 | Duman | mana != manna |
| 18:29.25 | kd3 | ya, but "manna from heaven", not "mana from heaven" |
| 18:29.41 | ccox | Duman - both are valid spellings and mean the same thing |
| 18:29.47 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 18:29.51 | Duman | no, they don't mean the same thing |
| 18:29.52 | Gnarfoz | mana & manna are not the same thing |
| 18:30.46 | kd3 | mana (uncountable) 1. A form of supernatural energy in Polynesian religion that inheres in things or people. |
| 18:30.54 | kd3 | manna (uncountable) 1. Food miraculously produced for the Israelites in the desert in the book of Exodus. |
| 18:31.15 | Thunder_Child | the idea behind both is the same |
| 18:31.18 | ccox | they are alternate spellings for the same concept |
| 18:31.29 | Duman | not at all |
| 18:31.41 | Duman | one is a physical substance |
| 18:31.49 | Duman | the other is a "force" |
| 18:31.52 | Gnarfoz | one is energy, the other is food :\ |
| 18:32.23 | ccox | in which case, mana is right for the game |
| 18:32.27 | Duman | no! |
| 18:32.31 | Duman | it's food... so it's manna |
| 18:32.37 | kd3 | mana for mage energy, manna for the food |
| 18:32.52 | ccox | WTB the kids a clue and an unabridged dictionary |
| 18:33.14 | Duman | dude, ccox. |
| 18:33.26 | Duman | manna = food, physical substance |
| 18:33.32 | Duman | mana = force, energy |
| 18:33.41 | Duman | go look it up anywhere |
| 18:33.47 | ccox | And the game refers to the force, and food that replenishes that force |
| 18:33.59 | kd3 | http://www.wowarmory.com/search.xml?searchQuery=manna&searchType=items |
| 18:34.04 | ccox | BUT, they are alternate spellings of the same root word and concept, so there really isn't a difference |
| 18:34.14 | Duman | no they are not! |
| 18:36.04 | Duman | ok, apparently there is an archaic spelling for Manna as 'mana', but is not common |
| 18:36.09 | Duman | +it |
| 18:36.27 | ccox | Both are pretty archaic, even by biblical standards |
| 18:37.18 | Duman | anyway, "Manna" refers to food, something physical... versus Mana which is just a force or power that a person/beast/object has |
| 18:37.44 | Duman | heck, they even call the mage-table food "Conjured Manna Biscuit" |
| 18:37.55 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 18:38.40 | ccox | Sigh. Spend some time working with ancient languages and historical translations of documents -- you'll find that many words do have alternate spellings |
| 18:38.48 | ccox | mana / manna is one of those words |
| 18:39.04 | Duman | yes, but the point of ALL of this was consistency |
| 18:39.11 | Duman | and they already spell the food "Manna" |
| 18:39.12 | ccox | if someone at Blizzard wants to change the spelling, that's up to them |
| 18:39.14 | Duman | so they should keep it that way :) |
| 18:39.45 | Anaral | Egads, I never quested on my mage... lol, only 311/740 EK quests and 277/765 Kalimdor. |
| 18:39.54 | Duman | heh |
| 18:40.30 | Anaral | Grrr! It wiped all my quests from Howling Fjord!!! |
| 18:40.50 | Fogger | my TBC was complete except for negrand 74/75 thought I done em all, now I have to figure out which quest I never did. |
| 18:41.09 | Duman | man, the servers are so hozed right now |
| 18:41.25 | Dashkal | at least it's measured in minutes again |
| 18:41.29 | Duman | heh |
| 18:41.45 | Duman | I have order-of-minutes lag when interacting w/ my inventory or anything |
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| 18:42.27 | Dashkal | hrm, I wasn't having inventory lag for looting. Didn't try to move anything around, though |
| 18:42.37 | Duman | well, I'm in azeroth |
| 18:43.06 | Duman | IF, to be precise |
| 18:43.56 | Duman | heh |
| 18:45.12 | Anaral | I want to be able to log on long enough to get to moonglade. |
| 18:45.30 | Duman | good luck :( |
| 18:45.40 | Fogger | well, I cant view my char pane, mailbox or use the feedback submission form! |
| 18:46.42 | Duman | *poof* |
| 18:46.56 | Neuro_Medivh | ok, well, I think I've found my new DK rotation |
| 18:47.21 | Dashkal | ok, that was about 90 seconds... |
| 18:47.24 | Duman | lol |
| 18:48.06 | Neuro_Medivh | with the nerf to plague strike and the reduction of all the disease-based bonuses, and the addition of Oblit to DRM, it's better to just Oblit x2 then heart strike x8 |
| 18:48.11 | Anaral | nevcairiel: Why do you make the stance bar so HUGE by default? |
| 18:48.30 | Neuro_Medivh | and completely ignore diseases |
| 18:48.38 | Duman | hmm |
| 18:48.55 | Neuro_Medivh | and rely on heart strike to proc free death coils |
| 18:49.31 | Duman | all rune abilities generate RP... so you should have tons of RP |
| 18:49.41 | Neuro_Medivh | that's for rune strikes |
| 18:49.52 | Duman | rune strike is like 10rp tho |
| 18:49.53 | Duman | or 20? |
| 18:49.57 | Neuro_Medivh | and Dancing rune weap |
| 18:50.04 | Duman | ahh, 15 rp |
| 18:50.18 | Duman | Glyph of Rune Strike |
| 18:50.19 | Duman | Instant |
| 18:50.19 | Duman | Increases the critical strike chance of your Rune Strike by 5% but increases cost by 5 runic power. |
| 18:50.20 | Duman | heh |
| 18:51.20 | Neuro_Medivh | point is, by ignoring diseases entirely, I free up a lot of rotation space |
| 18:51.42 | Neuro_Medivh | especially with icy touch and plague strike being so weak compared to an oblit |
| 18:52.23 | Dashkal | If ignoring diseases entirely is teh ebst DPS atm, that's a bug |
| 18:52.53 | Neuro_Medivh | shrug, they nerfed the mechanic themselves |
| 18:53.01 | Neuro_Medivh | Unholy were getting 4x diseases |
| 18:53.19 | Neuro_Medivh | so they nerfed how much bonus you got from diseases |
| 18:53.41 | Neuro_Medivh | and they nerfed Plague Strike from 60% to 30% |
| 18:54.05 | Dashkal | still a bug :p |
| 18:54.06 | Neuro_Medivh | so unless you're deep Unholy, you're better off using that unholy and frost rune for a 100% dmg Oblit |
| 18:54.14 | Neuro_Medivh | design flaw, but yeah |
| 18:54.29 | Dashkal | I use the term for both. We're agreeing here. Needs fix |
| 18:54.34 | Neuro_Medivh | heheh |
| 18:55.04 | Neuro_Medivh | Well, Oblit is horrible unless you are 1) ignoring diseases, or 2) take Annhiliation |
| 18:55.06 | Dashkal | Only think keeping me from that rotation is I make heavy use of DS. My health never drops below 100 for long :p |
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| 18:55.27 | Neuro_Medivh | trust me, even without DS, my health stays high |
| 18:55.34 | Dashkal | IT/PS/HS/HS/(Oblit|DS) ... IT/PS/HS/HS/HS/HS |
| 18:55.36 | Neuro_Medivh | bloodworms, blood presence, and vendetta |
| 18:55.47 | Dashkal | got it, got it, got it. Still dropping to half if I never DS |
| 18:56.02 | Dashkal | After about 2-3 fights, anyway |
| 18:56.03 | Duman | throw in a DS instead of oblit from time to time |
| 18:56.12 | Duman | oh wait does no healing w/ no diseases |
| 18:56.13 | Neuro_Medivh | DS won't heal unless you have diseases |
| 18:56.15 | Dashkal | Duman: won't work if ignoring diseases. DS doesn't heal |
| 18:56.17 | Dashkal | too slow |
| 18:56.18 | Anaral | Everytime I discover Eventide, when I'm in Dalaran, the server goes boom |
| 18:56.19 | Duman | yeahyeah :) |
| 18:56.22 | Maldivia | lol - texture options are invert :) |
| 18:56.27 | Duman | anaral :( |
| 18:56.32 | Dashkal | well, not true. you get 2% of your damage as healing! |
| 18:56.43 | Tekkub | is it safe? |
| 18:56.52 | Neuro_Medivh | the other spec I could think of is getting the +6 second talent in Unholy |
| 18:56.57 | Duman | tekkub: not at all |
| 18:57.02 | Neuro_Medivh | and doing diseases every other cycle |
| 18:57.03 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:57.12 | Anaral | Maldivia I noticed that, had to use my /console macro to get the visuals set right. |
| 18:57.26 | Tekkub | how can I push out weekend builds when I can't make sure they weren't broken by the patch? :( |
| 18:57.28 | Dashkal | Neuro_Medivh: I considered that seriously, but decided to take the 5% dodge for instance tanking instead (ironic considering I'm not doing isntances, but I'm mimicing the build I'll do in live) |
| 18:57.52 | Neuro_Medivh | Dash, take both... the +6 sec talent is in tier 2 |
| 18:59.20 | Dashkal | Neuro_Medivh: I'm taking all of tier 1 |
| 18:59.24 | Duman | stuck at full loading bar, hmm |
| 18:59.44 | Duman | all of which tier 1? |
| 18:59.55 | Dashkal | unholy |
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| 19:00.20 | Duman | really? |
| 19:00.29 | Duman | are you tanky-spec? |
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| 19:09.57 | nevcairiel | Tigole: "Stop flaming each other or you'll end up banned and removed from the Beta." |
| 19:10.04 | nevcairiel | yes, please! |
| 19:11.54 | ScytheBlade1 | nevcairiel: lol, link? |
| 19:12.03 | nevcairiel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9679748889&pageNo=2&sid=2000#23 |
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| 19:14.26 | [SW]Dodge | lol nice :D |
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| 19:21.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Sixen: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9679948796&sid=1 |
| 19:22.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Or |
| 19:22.06 | ScytheBlade1 | I can mention leveling |
| 19:22.10 | ScytheBlade1 | And the server can die |
| 19:22.13 | kd3 | and get knocked off, lol |
| 19:22.13 | ScytheBlade1 | .. |
| 19:22.17 | Duman | I guess my Magic Eater crashed the server |
| 19:22.32 | ScytheBlade1 | 100% possible |
| 19:22.40 | Duman | well, that uptime lasted longer than the last |
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| 19:23.46 | bleetah | premade copy template thingy appears to be working again |
| 19:26.13 | Duman | bleeter: word |
| 19:27.25 | Duman | ok, copies pending :) |
| 19:28.29 | kd3 | 3 hours already |
| 19:28.29 | kd3 | eesh |
| 19:29.25 | Gnarfoz | when I log in while in combat Grid doesn't work - is this expected? other unitframes (like my pitbull frames) work :\ |
| 19:29.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Mine works fine when I login in combat. |
| 19:29.57 | Gnarfoz | mine just doesn't show up |
| 19:30.07 | Gnarfoz | doesn't error, it just pops up when combat is over |
| 19:32.13 | Duman | what the BALLS |
| 19:33.00 | kd3 | that's why I'm wandering around kalimdor... searching for low-level quests |
| 19:33.53 | Duman | whya re you searching for low-level quests? |
| 19:34.14 | kd3 | 516/765 kalimdor quests atm |
| 19:34.19 | Duman | ahhh :) |
| 19:39.06 | Duman | sigh |
| 19:39.53 | Gnarfoz | meh |
| 19:40.37 | Gnarfoz | so, no other suggestions that one "WFM" on the "my Grid doesn't show up when I log in in combat" front? :< |
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| 19:41.28 | bleetah | Gnarfoz: you could try chocolates |
| 19:41.42 | Gnarfoz | yeah, but which addon would I feed them to? |
| 19:41.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Gnarfoz: considering that grid has plugins, and how stupidly hard it can be to trace taint in complex library based addons like Grid, probably not |
| 19:41.57 | Gnarfoz | wouldn't I get errors when it was taint related? |
| 19:42.21 | Gnarfoz | and yes, I have it set up so I do get ADDON_BLOCKED errors :X |
| 19:42.23 | Duman | lol people getting 8k shield slam crits |
| 19:42.28 | ScytheBlade1 | It works fine for me, hence the only reason it wouldn't for you would likely be taint |
| 19:42.42 | Gnarfoz | so... taintlog 1? |
| 19:42.42 | Gnarfoz | :\ |
| 19:42.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, I take that back |
| 19:42.48 | ScytheBlade1 | It could be just about anything :P |
| 19:42.51 | ScytheBlade1 | But taint is the most likely |
| 19:42.54 | ScytheBlade1 | By far |
| 19:43.17 | Gnarfoz | it basically behaved like if it had a InCombatLockdown() check ;D |
| 19:48.54 | foxlit | you.read(Grid.getSource()) |
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| 20:02.24 | AlexanderYoshi | q.q |
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| 20:02.33 | ScytheBlade1 | ? |
| 20:02.44 | ScytheBlade1 | You can nerf mages, why so sad? :P |
| 20:04.17 | bleetah | goddamn bastard assholes aargh i'm gunna smack them out how dare they!!! |
| 20:04.30 | Larana | What happened? |
| 20:04.33 | bleetah | there's NO COFFEE IN THE HOUSE |
| 20:05.04 | Neuro_Medivh | damn! If only there were some kind of market where they sold coffee! |
| 20:05.23 | bleetah | Neuro_Medivh: yeah... if you find one, URL please |
| 20:05.29 | Dewin | How is he supposed to go to the market where they sell coffee when he needs to drink coffee to be able to get to the market where they sell coffee? |
| 20:05.31 | Duman | uh oh |
| 20:05.35 | Duman | bad place to get DC'd |
| 20:05.36 | Duman | lol |
| 20:05.39 | bleetah | what dewin said |
| 20:05.45 | Neuro_Medivh | It's a conundrum. A riddle, if you will. |
| 20:06.04 | Neuro_Medivh | So break out some coffee from your secret stash |
| 20:06.24 | Dewin | Clearly the problem is a lack of secret stash. |
| 20:06.29 | Neuro_Medivh | Clearly |
| 20:06.44 | bleetah | secret stash is emergency camping supplies |
| 20:06.55 | bleetah | more likely to get off my ass and go to the shop that sink that low |
| 20:07.06 | Neuro_Medivh | With proper planning and foresight, such emergencies can be avoided |
| 20:07.09 | Dewin | Ahh, campground coffee... |
| 20:07.20 | bleetah | as motivation to go to the shops, however... it's pretty good |
| 20:07.35 | Neuro_Medivh | For example: Murdering your roommates who take your coffee can prevent such occurances happening in the future |
| 20:08.09 | bleetah | but if I murder them, I can't send them to the shops |
| 20:08.15 | Dewin | Do they give you free coffee in jail? Though it might classify as self-defense. |
| 20:08.33 | bleetah | that's some forward thinking |
| 20:08.43 | ScytheBlade1 | premeditated act etc etc etc |
| 20:09.14 | bleetah | it'd only be manslaughter, though... death was a side effect of getting a cuppa |
| 20:09.40 | Neuro_Medivh | If Homicide of roommates is counter-productive, then try maiming or some other form of high-level pain. Scalding Water can often do the trick, AND emphasize the lack of coffee. Example comment:"If I had coffee, I wouldn't have to pour this scalding water on your head, I could use it to drink coffee" |
| 20:10.34 | Neuro_Medivh | This not only makes a valid point about the lack of coffee, it also shifts blame from you onto them. |
| 20:11.00 | ScytheBlade1 | There's always another option - don't drink coffee ;) |
| 20:11.10 | bleetah | ARE YOU MAD??? |
| 20:11.10 | Neuro_Medivh | Scythe, that's just silly |
| 20:11.24 | Thunder_Child | bleetah, yes |
| 20:11.27 | Neuro_Medivh | that's like saying don't play WoW |
| 20:11.31 | Larana | lol |
| 20:11.35 | ScytheBlade1 | I expected more out of you guys with a comment like that. |
| 20:11.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Only nine capital letters? |
| 20:11.46 | Larana | I say drink Barq's Rootbeer! |
| 20:11.49 | bleetah | I'd give you more, but I don't have +o |
| 20:11.52 | Thunder_Child | Larana, /agreed |
| 20:11.54 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 20:11.56 | Dewin | twelve technically, they had to hold shift to hit ??? |
| 20:11.58 | ScytheBlade1 | OR |
| 20:12.03 | Seerah | coffee is yucky :P |
| 20:12.06 | ScytheBlade1 | s/Barq's Rootbeer/Water/ |
| 20:12.10 | ScytheBlade1 | ^^ |
| 20:12.12 | Thunder_Child | ~lart ScytheBlade1 |
| 20:12.12 | purl | decapitates ScytheBlade1 conan the destroyer style |
| 20:12.14 | Dewin | Barq's has caffeine, at least. |
| 20:12.22 | Neuro_Medivh | no it doesn't |
| 20:12.30 | Dewin | It has a small amount |
| 20:12.30 | Seerah | since when does root beer have caffiene? :P |
| 20:12.34 | Neuro_Medivh | root beer doesn't have caffiene |
| 20:12.34 | Dewin | Barq's does |
| 20:12.38 | Larana | Sbo! How dare you! Barq's is awesome! |
| 20:12.43 | Dewin | neither A&W nor mug have it |
| 20:12.45 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm not saying it isn't |
| 20:12.51 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm just saying that water is /more/ awesome |
| 20:13.03 | Dewin | Scythe has a point |
| 20:13.07 | Dewin | Without water, there could be no coffee. |
| 20:13.09 | Larana | Fine |
| 20:13.10 | Neuro_Medivh | Ah, I see now, Barqs adds caffiene |
| 20:13.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Or root beer. |
| 20:13.15 | Larana | Aye |
| 20:13.18 | Seerah | Diet Coke > Coffee (and for those wanna warm yourself up moments/mornings, hot chocolate >>> coffee) |
| 20:13.23 | Neuro_Medivh | normal root beer doesn't have any |
| 20:13.25 | Larana | It's the seventh ingredient. |
| 20:13.29 | ScytheBlade1 | water > root beer > coffee |
| 20:13.30 | ScytheBlade1 | imo |
| 20:13.33 | Larana | Yuck to diet anything! |
| 20:13.37 | Dewin | I know Neuro, this was much to my annoyance too. |
| 20:13.42 | Jamash | you know what's the worst? diet sprite |
| 20:13.46 | ScytheBlade1 | water > root beer > random sodas > coffee |
| 20:13.47 | ScytheBlade1 | fix't |
| 20:13.48 | Seerah | once you go diet, you dono't go back |
| 20:13.57 | Larana | YUCK |
| 20:13.58 | Seerah | diet sprite's not bad - it's really fizzy is all |
| 20:14.05 | Dewin | diet = yuck |
| 20:14.07 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, just think, root beer HAS water. so it's water + flavor = win |
| 20:14.07 | Larana | Diet is horied |
| 20:14.12 | Dewin | of course, high fructose corn syrup = yuck too |
| 20:14.19 | Dewin | Jones Soda w/ pure cane sugar = win |
| 20:14.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: or just realize that water is fine |
| 20:14.22 | Seerah | *some* diets are bad |
| 20:14.29 | Seerah | diet dr. pepper |
| 20:14.31 | Seerah | diet pepsi |
| 20:14.34 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, not by it's self |
| 20:14.45 | Dewin | Seerah: Oddly enough |
| 20:14.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: yes, all by itself |
| 20:14.49 | ScytheBlade1 | water > * |
| 20:14.52 | Dewin | I like coke > pepsi, but diet pepsi > diet coke |
| 20:14.57 | Jamash | water + pineapple juice concentrate |
| 20:14.58 | Thunder_Child | flavor > * |
| 20:15.04 | Seerah | crazy Dewin |
| 20:15.06 | bleetah | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:15.11 | ScytheBlade1 | and very... awesome |
| 20:15.11 | Thunder_Child | -_- |
| 20:15.14 | Seerah | mmm... pineapple |
| 20:15.32 | Dewin | Ever wonder how they manage to mix hydrogen and oxygen together, which are both flammable... and use it to put out fires? |
| 20:15.38 | Neuro_Medivh | diet coke w/lime = best |
| 20:15.45 | bleetah | Dewin: magicks |
| 20:15.45 | Thunder_Child | Dewin, no |
| 20:15.46 | Neuro_Medivh | Dewin, not at all |
| 20:15.59 | Neuro_Medivh | Oxygen isn't flammable btw |
| 20:16.09 | Jamash | sugar > high fructose corn syrup > artificial sweeteners |
| 20:16.13 | Dewin | hmm good point, technically it's just required for combustion. |
| 20:16.19 | ccox | Dewin - almost as much as putting sodium and chlorine together, both toxic, both burn, and make something you can eat |
| 20:16.25 | Neuro_Medivh | right.. water is hydrogen that has already been burned |
| 20:16.27 | bleetah | tim tam + coffee > all |
| 20:16.35 | ccox | oxygen isn't flammable - just everything around it *is* |
| 20:16.58 | bleetah | no bloody timtams either... this world is failure |
| 20:17.00 | Neuro_Medivh | since burning is the act of combining something with oxygen, water is extremely stable since it is already fully combined |
| 20:17.03 | Seerah | let me know how it is, TC |
| 20:17.13 | Neuro_Medivh | what are timtams? |
| 20:17.17 | Jamash | some stuff can burn underwater |
| 20:17.23 | Thunder_Child | Seerah, lots of fun, though i mostly beat the game in ~10 hours |
| 20:17.31 | bleetah | ~wiki timtam |
| 20:17.33 | Jamash | since its affinity for oxygen is greater than that of hydrogen |
| 20:17.34 | Neuro_Medivh | Jamash, yes, but water itself cannot |
| 20:17.51 | Dewin | That doesn't have much chocolate in it. |
| 20:17.55 | Seerah | Thunder_Child: ah... was wondering how much I'd get out of it. Since I made a few creatures with the creator and never touched it again. |
| 20:18.14 | Tekkub | they're actually not chocolate overload like you'd think |
| 20:18.35 | Jamash | I always appreciate chocolate with chocolate on chocolate |
| 20:18.44 | Seerah | mmmmm |
| 20:19.01 | bleetah | tim tam slam = drinking a coffee thru a tim tam as it melts and collapses = yummo +++ |
| 20:19.19 | Thunder_Child | Seerah, cant tell you that, however i can say i will be playing it at least 2 more times to try out the different lines of completion eg. the war/trade/culture |
| 20:19.29 | Dewin | Starbuck's Chantico thing was actually decent, aside from being waaaay overpriced |
| 20:19.35 | Gnarfoz | ScytheBlade1: which plugins *do* you use for Grid, btw? |
| 20:19.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Gnarfoz: absolutely none =] |
| 20:19.56 | Gnarfoz | :[ |
| 20:19.56 | Seerah | Thunder_Child: hmm.... I'll have to look at more stuff about it. I like Civilization, etc, but I hear that it's not as... advanced gameplay as that |
| 20:20.06 | Thunder_Child | Seerah, no, not nearly |
| 20:20.10 | Thunder_Child | i love civ too |
| 20:20.21 | Seerah | Thanks, TC :) |
| 20:20.24 | Dewin | somehow I managed to mostly miss the Spore booth at PAX |
| 20:20.41 | Thunder_Child | Seerah, np |
| 20:20.51 | Tekkub | I still don't get the big deal with spore |
| 20:21.00 | ScytheBlade1 | same @ Tekkub |
| 20:21.25 | Tekkub | it's just that "get hype started then delay for 5 years so that when it's released people swarm all over it and by the time they realize it sucks you've made millions" |
| 20:21.31 | Neuro_Medivh | I love Civ1-3, but Civ4 really turned me off |
| 20:21.57 | Tekkub | *coughFablecough* |
| 20:22.06 | Tekkub | *CoughBlackAndWhitecough* |
| 20:22.16 | Seerah | I've been playing civ on the DS |
| 20:22.31 | Seerah | civ in general is way addicting ;) |
| 20:22.47 | Esine | Seerah, is the DS version any good? |
| 20:23.16 | Tekkub | I could cough up a half dozen other games too :P |
| 20:23.25 | Seerah | Esine: wish the graphics were a bit better and it were easier to pan around the map or zoom out in general, but it's good for a handheld :) |
| 20:23.47 | Esine | hm.. ok. I may look for it in the store :) |
| 20:23.50 | Neuro_Medivh | hmm, Xbox360 dropped it's price on Friday aparently |
| 20:23.59 | Seerah | as for graphics, by better I mean that I'm used to the pc version :) |
| 20:24.05 | Esine | heh |
| 20:24.07 | Dashkal | Ok, now that people actually have it, just how _is_ spore? |
| 20:24.14 | Tekkub | Neuro_Medivh, yup... if we weren't going to BlizzCon I would probably finally buy one |
| 20:24.25 | Seerah | Dashkal: scroll up ;) |
| 20:24.33 | Esine | Dashkal, repetitive, and only one of the gamemodes/stages is good |
| 20:24.44 | Tekkub | $200 for a box that does Netflix streaming, games, and maybe playing back shit I download... vs $100 for a netflix box... |
| 20:24.45 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 20:24.49 | Dashkal | weeee. adn this is why I don't get games the first day :p |
| 20:24.50 | Esine | and you can't go back to the best stage in the game :-( |
| 20:25.10 | Gnarfoz | not only did they break mounting in cities again, but alliance pallies can learn the BE pally mount. :D |
| 20:25.11 | Neuro_Medivh | Dashkal, I bet i know one game you'll get day one! |
| 20:25.23 | Dashkal | Being in beta, it's no longer day one :p |
| 20:26.00 | Dashkal | But you're right, I'm totally getting the new Hello Kitty game the first day it comes out |
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| 20:31.31 | Adys | Is there an addon for advanced video settings management for wotlk? |
| 20:35.41 | foxlit | basin music is seriously odd. |
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| 21:44.20 | foxlit | SELECT name FROM pagealiases WHERE "/user/URL" LIKE alias |
| 21:44.39 | foxlit | pagealiases(name TEXT, alias TEXT) -- I wonder if that's a bad idea |
| 21:48.02 | Duman | weird, I never write where clauses that way... always the other wya around (WHERE alias LIKE "blah") |
| 21:48.09 | Duman | is alias indexed? :) |
| 21:48.13 | Duman | oh text |
| 21:48.18 | Duman | lawl, good luck with that |
| 21:50.35 | Duman | LOL @ RACIALS |
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| 21:51.28 | Lukian | do humans keep 10% rep gains? :o |
| 21:51.36 | Duman | Human |
| 21:51.36 | Duman | - Perception: changed to a passive, now grants one character level of passive stealth detection |
| 21:51.36 | Duman | - Racial "The Fall of Humanity": Feign death which may trick enemies into ignoring you. Any threat is restored versus enemies still in combat upon cancellation of this effect. 5min cooldown |
| 21:51.36 | Duman | - Racial Passive "Human Supremacy": The dominance of Humanity is evidenced by having one more racial bonus than normal. Actually, make that two counting this one. (just a tooltip, no actual functionality) |
| 21:51.38 | foxlit | Duman: meh, it might work. In any case, that table is probably going to be sufficiently small. |
| 21:51.42 | Duman | (straight from kalgan) |
| 21:51.53 | Lukian | guess not then! |
| 21:51.58 | foxlit | I'd guess so |
| 21:52.16 | foxlit | Things Kalgan listed are changes rather than an exhaustive list. |
| 21:52.43 | foxlit | Either that, or the only thing Undead get is a -1% shadow spell hit |
| 21:53.11 | Duman | wow |
| 21:53.12 | Duman | - Gift of the Naaru: now scales based on the higher of either the caster's Attack Power or Spell Power |
| 21:53.15 | Duman | that's pretty hot |
| 21:53.19 | cladhaire | Duman: link? |
| 21:53.23 | Duman | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9658356014&sid=2000&pageNo=5#97 |
| 21:53.26 | cladhaire | ty |
| 21:53.28 | Duman | np |
| 21:54.00 | Duman | omg |
| 21:54.02 | Duman | gnomes rejoice |
| 21:54.03 | Duman | - Escape Artist: the freeing effect can no longer be resisted |
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| 21:54.34 | Tekkub | Duman, "Absolutely no offense towards Tekkub" ... dude read the fucking addon description first |
| 21:54.35 | Tekkub | :P |
| 21:54.52 | Duman | whowhat |
| 21:55.01 | Tekkub | tekKompare |
| 21:55.35 | Duman | oh |
| 21:56.27 | Duman | well, i was going off what was in the parens |
| 21:56.30 | Duman | is that not what it does? |
| 21:57.02 | Duman | oh it works for chat mouseover |
| 21:57.08 | Duman | that's what I get for assuming |
| 21:57.09 | Duman | sorry |
| 21:57.22 | Duman | altho I even said : "(unless this addon does more than what you've described :)) " |
| 21:57.23 | smcn | those racial changes make no sense to me. is that only including the ones that are changed or is that an "absolute" list of the new racials |
| 21:57.54 | smcn | oh, i guess i should learn to read |
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| 22:01.31 | Duman | I see the world server is still not happy |
| 22:04.01 | wereHamster | the WoW installer that blizzard provides on their homepage sucks. First it downloads 4GB, and after you install it you have to download a 1GB patch (full 2.4.2 patch as it looks). Why doesn't the installer download the latest version to begin with?? |
| 22:04.52 | wereHamster | no p2p peers on any of these downloaders, and from the http backend I get max 64kb/s |
| 22:05.24 | Antiarc | Heh |
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| 22:16.12 | Fogger | yeah, with their billion dollars they could hire some guy to merge the patches together once a day :P |
| 22:16.59 | Fogger | I managed to find decent mirrors for all the files like |
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| 22:19.08 | Duman | there's a thread about mirrors in the tech support forum |
| 22:19.14 | Duman | err, assuming you're talking about beta |
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| 22:24.00 | Cairenn | Guys - if you are going to BlizzCon and if you are planning on joining us for the community dinner on the Friday night, please please post on the thread letting us know (including # of others that will be attending with you) and whether the restuarant suggestion is okay by you. I want to call to make the reservations soon. http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17443 (remember, though, everyone is paying for their own meal, t |
| 22:24.26 | Tekkub | wait what |
| 22:24.31 | Tekkub | you said you were buying |
| 22:25.24 | Cairenn | hah! not bloody likely |
| 22:25.34 | Tekkub | you did! |
| 22:25.41 | Tekkub | <Cairenn> Yea, my treat |
| 22:25.44 | Duman | gah |
| 22:25.46 | Cairenn | lol |
| 22:26.07 | Duman | haha |
| 22:26.44 | Malgayne | Hey Cairenn! |
| 22:26.46 | Duman | err |
| 22:26.47 | Malgayne | check your PMs! |
| 22:26.48 | Malgayne | :D |
| 22:27.02 | Cairenn | here or on the site? |
| 22:27.13 | Malgayne | no here |
| 22:27.16 | Duman | you say if "the restuarant suggestion is okay", but I only see: "place to be determined" |
| 22:27.27 | Tekkub | oh look my toons got moved back |
| 22:27.29 | Cairenn | if here, make sure you sent it to the right one, I'm not on my home computer |
| 22:27.29 | Malgayne | or on the other IRC server I guess |
| 22:27.37 | Tekkub | shows you how often I log onto live |
| 22:27.56 | Tekkub | time to /beg my way back into my guild |
| 22:29.23 | wereHamster | Duman: no, I'm not talking about beta. I already downloaded wotlk beta 3.0.1 from the wotlk wiki. Now I just need to install the full WoW version + burning crusade |
| 22:31.47 | Tekkub | but they've not restored my cash /sadpanda |
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| 22:35.34 | Tekkub | oh, wait, the mailed me the cash, and I had more than I thought |
| 22:35.41 | Tekkub | *grin* |
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| 22:48.14 | Duman | digh |
| 22:48.20 | Duman | wtf? hah |
| 22:48.21 | Duman | "sigh" |
| 22:48.24 | Duman | I can't even sigh properly |
| 22:48.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Server go poof again? |
| 22:48.40 | Duman | yeah |
| 23:03.13 | Corrodias | ....... |
| 23:03.17 | Corrodias | why is my WoW backup folder 12gb? |
| 23:04.40 | Corrodias | Why Is My WoW Folder 22gb?? |
| 23:06.37 | [SW]Dodge | my wow folder is hust ~9,7gb o.O |
| 23:07.22 | eliteevil | my live folder is ~11gb, my beta folder is 16.3gb |
| 23:07.33 | Tekkub | patches? |
| 23:08.03 | Corrodias | i'm going to find out with treesize free |
| 23:08.12 | Tekkub | treesize FTFW |
| 23:08.19 | Corrodias | well, the 10gb of screenshots doesn't help |
| 23:08.24 | Tekkub | but seriously just look in the data folder |
| 23:08.37 | Corrodias | time to process them into png and archive them |
| 23:08.46 | Tekkub | 15GiB for data on my install |
| 23:09.08 | Corrodias | 15? mine's only 7 |
| 23:09.22 | Corrodias | er, 8 |
| 23:09.41 | Tekkub | bah, so it's proving to be a bit of a bitch to find the "endgame 60" herbs to stockpile for wraf |
| 23:09.53 | Tekkub | outland herbs? shitloads of cheap felweed |
| 23:09.59 | Corrodias | why stockpile them? |
| 23:10.11 | Tekkub | but icecap, dreamfoil? good fucking luck |
| 23:10.15 | Tekkub | why not? |
| 23:10.17 | Syzgyn | Hah yeah |
| 23:10.28 | Tekkub | level inscription fast, rape the market with the leftovers |
| 23:10.34 | Corrodias | because A) they're a bitch and B) they're not that useful as i recall |
| 23:10.57 | Tekkub | and they'll be even more of a bitch to find when everyone needs em to level |
| 23:11.05 | Tekkub | I might overstockpile them |
| 23:11.07 | Corrodias | but never mind! i know WoW is all about spending time to do stuff |
| 23:11.09 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:11.15 | Syzgyn | Lol, the live naxx raid just got owned by Patchwerk |
| 23:11.34 | Tekkub | Corrodias, there's a gap of about 50 skill points where you need them |
| 23:11.54 | Corrodias | hahah, gg blizzard |
| 23:11.57 | Tekkub | 3 inks per glyph, avg 2 herbs per ink... |
| 23:12.03 | Corrodias | they win again |
| 23:12.05 | Tekkub | 150ish herbs you need there |
| 23:12.31 | Tekkub | so far I've got... 50 |
| 23:12.33 | Tekkub | bah |
| 23:14.33 | Sixen | Hai |
| 23:14.42 | Tekkub | lou |
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| 23:21.09 | Sixen | ~KD3 |
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| 23:24.07 | Corrodias | thank internet for batch image conversion programs |
| 23:25.44 | wereHamster | thank bell for a unix shell and whoever writes ImageMagick |
| 23:28.40 | Syzgyn | server go boom again? |
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| 23:34.35 | Corrodias | lots of screenshots... |
| 23:35.28 | foxlit | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=51376 |
| 23:35.30 | foxlit | teehee |
| 23:35.37 | foxlit | It triggers _itself_ |
| 23:35.50 | foxlit | It's just that rank, too |
| 23:35.50 | ScytheBlade1 | LOL |
| 23:35.57 | ScytheBlade1 | That makes perfect sense, hahahaha |
| 23:36.32 | Sixen | hai kd3 |
| 23:36.35 | Sixen | hai sbo |
| 23:36.36 | Sixen | hai foxlit |
| 23:36.58 | Hirsute | Are there target dummies better than the Masterwork ones? |
| 23:37.05 | ScytheBlade1 | hai Sixen |
| 23:37.21 | Corrodias | triggers? |
| 23:37.26 | Duman | servers stable yet? :-/ |
| 23:37.35 | foxlit | Corrodias: look at the third effect on wowhead |
| 23:37.54 | foxlit | Compare to say http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=49194 |
| 23:37.55 | Corrodias | i am not familiar with the idea of a "trigger" effect. this is perhaps something made after i quit |
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| 23:38.08 | Sixen | =] |
| 23:38.11 | Sixen | ohai duman |
| 23:38.29 | foxlit | It was quite likely around since forever |
| 23:38.36 | Duman | ranks 3 and 4 are teh same way |
| 23:38.38 | foxlit | But it's just that you wouldn't normally look at it |
| 23:38.44 | Duman | hek, rank 1 is, too |
| 23:38.46 | Duman | +c |
| 23:38.54 | foxlit | Duman: it's a subtlety, but no |
| 23:39.00 | Corrodias | then i guess i never looked up any spells on wowhead that "triggered" another spell |
| 23:39.02 | Corrodias | what does it mean? |
| 23:39.07 | foxlit | The other rank Trigger a different spell |
| 23:39.14 | foxlit | Whereas Rank 2 triggers itself |
| 23:39.29 | foxlit | Corrodias: I presume it's the equivalent of |
| 23:39.48 | foxlit | ... hm |
| 23:39.58 | foxlit | Saying "and now pretend this spell was cast" |
| 23:40.23 | foxlit | So it makes for a nice infinite loop of applying that rank of unholy blight, which crashes someone. |
| 23:40.35 | Corrodias | indeed... the server, probably |
| 23:40.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Someone? |
| 23:40.50 | ScytheBlade1 | s/someone/the server/ |
| 23:41.11 | Corrodias | the server is now a person |
| 23:41.14 | foxlit | But which one? |
| 23:41.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh okay |
| 23:41.19 | Corrodias | Mr. Realm |
| 23:41.32 | Corrodias | i'd assume it would be whichever server the spell is being cast on |
| 23:41.39 | foxlit | But which one is that? :) |
| 23:41.49 | Corrodias | uh.. that's a little situation-dependant, isn't it? |
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| 23:42.05 | foxlit | I mean, spells and world often have completely unrelated lag effects |
| 23:42.16 | Corrodias | multiple processors, i dunno |
| 23:42.38 | Tem | does DRM work this patch? |
| 23:42.47 | Corrodias | could be a battleground server, could be any of the 3 (?) (4, with Wrath?) continent servers |
| 23:43.00 | Corrodias | DRM? not digital rights management, surely? |
| 23:43.05 | AlexanderYoshi | It should, Tem. |
| 23:43.45 | Tem | Corrodias, Death Rune Mastery |
| 23:44.07 | Dashkal | Tem: works like a charm now |
| 23:44.08 | AlexanderYoshi | If not, only 1 copper |
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| 23:44.22 | Tem | AlexanderYoshi, I can't test it until I hearth out |
| 23:44.38 | Tem | which is a problem because I can't hearth again for another hour after that =P |
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| 23:45.38 | AlexanderYoshi | You can run downstairs |
| 23:45.41 | AlexanderYoshi | and port out of the purple thing |
| 23:46.14 | Tem | that's gone now |
| 23:46.23 | Tem | I'd have to take a griphon to EPL |
| 23:46.23 | AlexanderYoshi | ....? |
| 23:46.35 | AlexanderYoshi | How.... odd... |
| 23:46.37 | Tem | which is considerably better than porting back to Dragonblight |
| 23:46.50 | foxlit | They've revised the starting area a heck of a lot of times since the first beta release |
| 23:46.51 | AlexanderYoshi | Short flight |
| 23:46.52 | Tem | AlexanderYoshi, Acherus has been redesigned |
| 23:47.00 | Tem | it's much smaller than it used to be |
| 23:47.06 | AlexanderYoshi | I recall it lost the 2nd story of the 2nd story |
| 23:47.16 | AlexanderYoshi | and removed the roof |
| 23:47.52 | Tem | *nod* |
| 23:48.00 | Tem | and the bottom floor doesn't have the teleporter in the middle anymore |
| 23:48.04 | Corrodias | sucks for anyone standing on the roof |
| 23:48.10 | Tem | it's got Mograine standing there now |
| 23:48.27 | Duman | fox: they all say "trigger spell" ? |
| 23:48.28 | Sixen | AlexanderYoshi... I think you play on my server, o_O. |
| 23:48.32 | Duman | anyway |
| 23:48.56 | Sixen | In fact, I believe you're in my guild. |
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| 23:49.00 | foxlit | Duman: but only rank 2 triggers itself -- all of the other ranks trigger a different spell. |
| 23:49.05 | Duman | oh, they have the wrong spell triggered |
| 23:49.08 | Duman | got it, I'm slow |
| 23:49.30 | Duman | silly blizzard, naming the spell the same as the effect ;-) |
| 23:50.59 | AlexanderYoshi | Hi Sixen |
| 23:51.01 | AlexanderYoshi | I might |
| 23:51.07 | Sixen | Yup. |
| 23:51.18 | Sixen | <~ Izual |
| 23:51.18 | AlexanderYoshi | Who told you who I am tho |
| 23:51.31 | AlexanderYoshi | *shrug* |
| 23:51.36 | AlexanderYoshi | Cool |
| 23:51.44 | AlexanderYoshi | How you enjoying the beta? |
| 23:51.50 | Sixen | Good fun, ;). Was in Alpha as well. |
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| 23:55.52 | ScytheBlade1 | AlexanderYoshi: I've found one character of yours, but that's also "public" |
| 23:56.20 | ScytheBlade1 | (At least I think) |
| 23:58.03 | Tem | ouch |
| 23:58.13 | Tem | I do 670 dps at level 73 |
| 23:58.19 | Tem | that's pretty harsh |
| 23:58.34 | smcn | heh what happened? |
| 23:58.50 | Corrodias | that's very bad :( |
| 23:58.52 | Tem | every one of my abilities was nerfed by 50% or more |
| 23:59.08 | smcn | guess i picked a good time to start levelling my druid then |
| 23:59.21 | smcn | no matter how boring balance is... ;P |
| 23:59.38 | Tem | icy touch used to hit for 700ish |
| 23:59.44 | Tem | it hits for 150ish now |
| 23:59.47 | smcn | oh azn is fixed i guess i could grind instances |
