| 00:06.26 | *** join/#wowuidev njal (n=njal@unaffiliated/njal) |
| 00:06.43 | njal | good morning |
| 00:07.15 | [Liquidor] | :O |
| 00:07.20 | [Liquidor] | What time is it in the US now? |
| 00:07.37 | njal | heh, i was on ugy |
| 00:07.40 | njal | ugt |
| 00:09.09 | bleeter | [Liquidor]: about 5PM, pacific |
| 00:09.22 | njal | UGT is convention initially established in #mipslinux on irc.openprojects.net (now irc.freenode.net) but slowly taking over the world. It states that it is always morning when person comes into a channel, and it is always late night when person leaves. |
| 00:09.29 | bleeter | [Liquidor]: it's a long public holiday weekend in the US, prolly many folks afk |
| 00:09.43 | [Liquidor] | Celebrating? |
| 00:12.50 | xcel-- | if I wanna filter an incoming msg and only send the second word in the string into a table .. how would that for loop look like? I've started with "for word in string.gmatch(incoming_string_variable, "[^%s]+") do table.insert(args, word); |
| 00:12.59 | xcel-- | but that inserts all words in the string ... |
| 00:13.10 | xcel-- | how can I sort out only the second word |
| 00:14.39 | Cide | uhh... |
| 00:15.12 | Cide | table.insert(args, incoming_string_variable:match("^[^%s]+%s+([^%s]+)")) |
| 00:15.17 | Cide | no loop necessary |
| 00:16.13 | Cide | >>> local incoming_string_variable = "hi there-this-is-the-second-word these words are we not interested in."; return incoming_string_variable:match("^[^%s]+%s+([^%s]+)") |
| 00:16.13 | Cide | Cide: "there-this-is-the-second-word" |
| 00:16.18 | Cide | ^ |
| 00:18.01 | Anaral | Would anyone please be willing to help me figure out saved variables. I'm pretty sure I have all the right code, just not calling it in the right order. Here is the lua http://www.pastey.net/95127. I have the xml pastey too, if that's needed http://www.pastey.net/95126 |
| 00:18.27 | Anaral | Currently my SV file gives QIDTestDB = nil |
| 00:18.30 | Anaral | :/ |
| 00:19.11 | njal | hmm |
| 00:19.15 | njal | dont use variables_loaded |
| 00:19.35 | Anaral | Why not? |
| 00:19.45 | njal | lemme find my source |
| 00:20.58 | njal | try using ADDON_LOADED instead |
| 00:21.25 | Cide | VARIABLES_LOADED works fine. |
| 00:21.35 | Cide | Anaral: your .toc? |
| 00:21.35 | njal | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/ADDON_LOADED |
| 00:21.45 | Anaral | A) I did, with similar results and B) was told not to use ADDON_LOADED >.< |
| 00:21.59 | Cide | using ADDON_LOADED is fine, but you have to check that the name matches |
| 00:22.00 | njal | heh |
| 00:22.11 | Anaral | http://www.pastey.net/95128 |
| 00:22.16 | Cide | but using VARIABLES_LOADED is perfectly fine as well, as long as your addon is not load on demand |
| 00:22.21 | Cide | xcel--: take it in the channel, not in PMs |
| 00:22.41 | xcel-- | if I just want to set another variable (not a table) to the second word .. how would that look like? variable = incoming_string_variable:match("^[^%s]+%s+([^%s]+)") ? |
| 00:22.47 | Cide | yes |
| 00:22.50 | xcel-- | ok |
| 00:22.52 | Anaral | Cide: *nods* It's not LoD |
| 00:23.39 | Nargiddley | I'm not understanding the frame setup, you create a frame in xml with the name QID then seem to use the table QIDTest as a frame |
| 00:24.05 | Cide | Anaral: is QIDTestDB nil after VARIABLES_LOADED is fired? |
| 00:24.21 | Cide | Nargiddley: he's not using QIDTest as a frame.. it's a table |
| 00:24.26 | Cide | that said, frames are tables too |
| 00:24.36 | Nargiddley | he calls :RegisterEvent and :SetScript on it |
| 00:25.01 | Cide | true |
| 00:25.14 | Cide | could be that his framework does black magic (ace?) |
| 00:25.23 | Cide | s/his/her/ |
| 00:25.32 | Nargiddley | don't see any framework |
| 00:25.47 | Cide | Anaral_is_a_She: do you use a framework for that or not? |
| 00:25.53 | Anaral_is_a_She | No |
| 00:25.55 | Cide | ok |
| 00:26.00 | Cide | so change your frame to be |
| 00:26.11 | Cide | <OnLoad> QID:RegisterEvent("VARIABLES_LOADED") </OnLoad> |
| 00:26.16 | Cide | instead of OnEvent |
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| 00:26.35 | Cide | in fact |
| 00:26.36 | Cide | just remove that |
| 00:27.16 | Cide | and at the bottom of your lua, change QIDTest:RegisterEvent(...) and QIDTest:SetScript(...) to use QID:<stuff> instead |
| 00:27.20 | Anaral_is_a_She | So no frame in the xml, making the xml unneeded? |
| 00:27.38 | Cide | you can still create the frame in the xml |
| 00:27.56 | Cide | but you could just as well do QID = CreateFrame("Frame", "QID") |
| 00:28.08 | Cide | and remove the xml entirely, but then you'd have to move the lua file into the .toc |
| 00:29.00 | Tekkub | people still use VARIABLE_LOADED? |
| 00:29.03 | Tekkub | *S |
| 00:29.06 | Cide | why not? |
| 00:29.14 | Tekkub | ADDON_LOADED is nicer? |
| 00:29.15 | Cide | it only ever matters for LoD addons |
| 00:29.22 | Cide | not when you have to check the arg |
| 00:29.27 | Cide | doesn't matter much still |
| 00:29.38 | Cide | if the addon isn't lod, I prefer V_L for simplicty |
| 00:29.41 | Cide | simplicity too |
| 00:29.56 | Anaral_is_a_She | I'm still learning... Plus this addon originally was 35 lines, and the slashcommands and sv so far have taken an additional 100. |
| 00:29.56 | Tekkub | if you use AL in the first place, your addons are much easier to make work with AddonLoader |
| 00:30.01 | Tekkub | and AddonLoader is the shit |
| 00:30.19 | Cide | never used it |
| 00:30.33 | Anaral_is_a_She | Me either |
| 00:30.36 | Cide | my library does AL for me anyway |
| 00:30.47 | Cide | but as she's still learning, VL is fine |
| 00:30.57 | Anaral_is_a_She | And this addon doesn't need a lib |
| 00:30.59 | xcel-- | if I send text to a frame using AddonName_Frame_Text:SetText(text) .. and send it multiple times .. will it end up on diff rows or how do I set that? |
| 00:31.07 | Cide | you don't send text |
| 00:31.09 | Cide | you set text |
| 00:31.15 | Tekkub | I put AddonLoader support into every addon I can. No reason to load at login for 99% of the addons out there |
| 00:31.15 | Cide | you overwrite anything else that's there |
| 00:31.26 | Cide | you mean for 1% of the addons out there |
| 00:31.32 | Cide | (understatement, but still) |
| 00:31.48 | Cide | otherwise she'd have to change her onevent code to pass along any extra args, and that's probably past her current knowledge |
| 00:32.02 | xcel-- | ok how do I just append text (on next row) instead of SetText? |
| 00:32.04 | Tekkub | no, I mean 99%... skimming thru my addon list I really don't see anything that needs to load at login |
| 00:32.15 | Cide | then your addon list doesn't equal mine |
| 00:32.20 | Cide | all of mine modify my default interface |
| 00:32.22 | Tekkub | UF is kinda nice to have at login, as is actionbars, but now required |
| 00:32.31 | Cide | of course noty |
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| 00:32.33 | Cide | not |
| 00:32.38 | Cide | you could argue that no addon is required at login |
| 00:32.46 | Tekkub | that's what I just did |
| 00:32.47 | Tekkub | :P |
| 00:32.55 | Tekkub | addonloader's delayed kicks ass |
| 00:32.59 | Cide | xcel--: frame:SetText(frame:GetText().."new text") |
| 00:33.00 | [Liquidor] | faildiscus at its finest :> |
| 00:33.06 | Tekkub | especially when you reload a ton |
| 00:33.15 | Cide | stop writing shitty code and you don't have to |
| 00:33.17 | Cide | oh, snap! |
| 00:33.35 | [Liquidor] | xcel--, write a function for it if you have to do it a lot |
| 00:33.36 | Cide | anyway, it's nice for reloading I suppose |
| 00:33.45 | Cide | not much else though |
| 00:33.47 | Tekkub | I dare you to write a complex addon in one shit without reloading/relogging at all |
| 00:33.50 | Tekkub | :P |
| 00:33.57 | Cide | I write addons in one shitting all the time |
| 00:34.08 | xcel-- | Liquidor: it's a part of a function that I will be looping |
| 00:34.14 | Cide | um |
| 00:34.15 | [Liquidor] | function app(frame, text) frame:SetText(frame:GetText() ..text) end |
| 00:34.19 | Cide | you should reconsider your design |
| 00:34.25 | Tekkub | *shot, though shit can certainly apply |
| 00:34.31 | Cide | figure out ALL the text that should go into it |
| 00:34.35 | Cide | and then set it once |
| 00:34.39 | Cide | for two reasons |
| 00:34.48 | Anaral_is_a_She | Cide: After QIDTest = CreateFrame("Frame", "QIDTest") what sort of <stuff> do I need to specify? |
| 00:35.13 | Cide | <stuff> meant the thing after the colon |
| 00:35.21 | Cide | you don't do QIDTest = CreateFrame... |
| 00:35.27 | Cide | you do QID = CreateFrame("Frame", "QID") |
| 00:35.29 | Anaral_is_a_She | Ah. |
| 00:35.33 | Cide | otherwise you'd replace your current QIDTest table |
| 00:35.37 | Cide | 1) you call frame:GetText() several times otherwise (table lookup + function call) |
| 00:35.42 | Arrowmaster | why are we moving from xml to lua? |
| 00:35.47 | Tekkub | uhm... or you just do CreateFrame("Frame", "QID") |
| 00:35.54 | Cide | or that |
| 00:36.00 | Tekkub | 'QID =' isn't needed if you're naming the frame |
| 00:36.02 | Cide | 2) you append the text lots of times, which is pretty expensive |
| 00:36.06 | Tekkub | or saving in a local |
| 00:36.10 | Cide | yep, I was going to make it a local at first |
| 00:36.30 | Cide | Arrowmaster: /shrug. I gave her the option to, didn't suggest any particular way of doing it. why not? |
| 00:36.52 | Tekkub | and there's really no reason to name frames unless you're inheriting form an XML template that needs a name |
| 00:36.55 | Tekkub | stupid XML |
| 00:36.55 | Cide | an xml file consisting of simply [[<Frame name="QID"/>]] seems a bit superfluous if you ask me |
| 00:37.01 | Arrowmaster | i dont know, was just wondering and saw something about addonloader and delayed loading |
| 00:37.07 | xcel-- | what I want to do is scan a speciall chat channel for text, parse it and find the text I'm intersted in and paste that User + text (second word only) to a frame for a limited amount of time. Shouldn't be that expensive or? |
| 00:37.24 | Cide | not really |
| 00:37.31 | Cide | but it's bad design |
| 00:37.34 | Cide | go good design |
| 00:37.51 | Cide | if it was simply a matter of efficiency I wouldn't care |
| 00:37.52 | xcel-- | it's my first addon ever :) how would I do it in good design then? :) |
| 00:38.13 | Cide | build up the string, and then SetText() it once |
| 00:38.17 | Arrowmaster | write more addons first and get yelled at for sucking |
| 00:38.26 | xcel-- | heh |
| 00:38.49 | xcel-- | true .. I can build it up in a table first |
| 00:39.01 | Arrowmaster | go look at anything Cide wrote, soo bad |
| 00:39.04 | Cide | and then use table.concat |
| 00:39.05 | [Liquidor] | xcel--, you should rewrite SpamMeNot imo |
| 00:39.09 | Cide | my code is amazing |
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| 00:39.17 | [Liquidor] | Cide, hah! |
| 00:39.19 | Cide | maybe not ctra, but hey, that addon is still amazing |
| 00:39.25 | xcel-- | I use SpamMeNot as a howto to scan for text |
| 00:39.36 | [Liquidor] | xcel--, don't! |
| 00:39.39 | xcel-- | ok :) |
| 00:39.40 | Arrowmaster | xcel--: ok there might be a first problem |
| 00:39.40 | Cide | CT_BuffMod is probably still my awesomest code |
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| 00:39.57 | Arrowmaster | Cide: before you mentioned it i was going to ask about ctra lol |
| 00:40.06 | [Liquidor] | SpamMeNot is the worst piece of code on wowace. Except for that italian guy who wrote something even worse. |
| 00:40.12 | Cide | hey, it's like windows but for raiding |
| 00:40.18 | Cide | except windows doesn't suck |
| 00:40.22 | Arrowmaster | [Liquidor]: im not sure |
| 00:40.32 | xcel-- | I couldn't find another addon that were scanning for chat text to learn from :) |
| 00:40.44 | [Liquidor] | Arrowmaster, well I haven't really looked into all the addons, but go ahead. What do you got? :) |
| 00:40.57 | Arrowmaster | [Liquidor]: KA_RaidTracker |
| 00:41.08 | Cide | what a ripoff |
| 00:41.11 | Arrowmaster | i know |
| 00:41.22 | Arrowmaster | i want to delete it but i was told i couldnt |
| 00:41.29 | Cide | s/CT/KA/ and be done with it, gosh |
| 00:41.40 | [Liquidor] | Checking it out ... |
| 00:41.42 | Anaral_is_a_She | Well I'm not getting any errors now, but the sv file is stil nil. |
| 00:42.22 | [Liquidor] | There's no library? |
| 00:42.23 | Cide | show the new code |
| 00:43.49 | [Liquidor] | Meh KA_RaidTracker is boring to look at. Actually have to look within the functions to see what's going on and cba doing that. |
| 00:44.19 | Anaral_is_a_She | http://www.pastey.net/95130 |
| 00:44.25 | xcel-- | man can you take infinit amount of noob questions per day or is it a limit? :) I have loads :) |
| 00:44.29 | Arrowmaster | [Liquidor]: its just CT_RaidTracker (mldkp version) with a shitty fubar plugin |
| 00:44.44 | Arrowmaster | im seriously tempted to delete it |
| 00:44.49 | Cide | hey, I didn't give you permission to edit that mod! |
| 00:44.49 | Anaral_is_a_She | I think I don't know if I need line 136 |
| 00:45.30 | Arrowmaster | Cide: im going go delete it with 'Cide told me to!' in the message |
| 00:45.41 | Cide | I don't care at all :P |
| 00:45.44 | Cide | Anaral_is_a_She: change QID:SetScript("OnEvent", function(self) QIDTest[event](QIDTest) end) |
| 00:45.46 | [Liquidor] | xcel--, go ahead. That's what this channel is for |
| 00:46.05 | Cide | to: QID:SetScript("OnEvent", function(self, event, ...) QIDTest[event](QIDTest, event, ...) end) |
| 00:46.11 | Cide | xcel--: I can only take 2 more |
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| 00:47.34 | Anaral_is_a_She | *sighs* Still nil |
| 00:47.46 | Cide | after VL? |
| 00:48.09 | Cide | try spelling VARIABLES_LOADING correctly next time |
| 00:48.28 | xcel-- | SetText(LootCouncil_Frame:GetText()..variable_with_new_text) will the ".." make it on a new row or how do I manage that? |
| 00:48.30 | Anaral_is_a_She | I thought is was loaded? |
| 00:48.30 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 00:48.34 | Cide | yes |
| 00:48.36 | Cide | my bad |
| 00:48.47 | Cide | VARAIABLES is not the way to spell "VARIABLES", however |
| 00:48.56 | Anaral_is_a_She | Oh, whoops |
| 00:49.02 | Cide | xcel--: www.lua.org/pil |
| 00:49.05 | Arrowmaster | classic |
| 00:49.16 | Arrowmaster | this is why cide fails so much |
| 00:49.16 | Cide | linebreak is made with "\n", for that matter |
| 00:49.19 | xcel-- | yea I've ordered the book :) |
| 00:49.21 | [Liquidor] | :)) |
| 00:49.33 | Cide | except I never fail |
| 00:49.34 | [Liquidor] | xcel--, .. is a concat |
| 00:49.41 | Arrowmaster | xcel--: which book? |
| 00:49.46 | Ackis | cide++ |
| 00:49.49 | xcel-- | Programming in Lua |
| 00:49.55 | Arrowmaster | ~wowprogramming |
| 00:49.55 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons (http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob) a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 00:49.58 | Arrowmaster | order that one |
| 00:50.22 | xcel-- | already did .. as well as hacking world of warcraft |
| 00:50.22 | Cide | I deliberately spread disinformation |
| 00:50.24 | Anaral_is_a_She | I now get the 'Setting up QIDTestDB' in chat. |
| 00:50.42 | [Liquidor] | Rofl a book |
| 00:50.43 | Cide | that means QIDTestDB is {} |
| 00:50.49 | Arrowmaster | im not really sure how useful the hacking world of warcraft book is |
| 00:51.01 | Cide | it's not |
| 00:51.02 | [Liquidor] | Rofl books |
| 00:51.04 | Cide | well, I haven't read it |
| 00:51.09 | Cide | [Liquidor]: what's wrong with books? |
| 00:51.17 | [Liquidor] | They take up space |
| 00:51.37 | Anaral_is_a_She | now sv is QIDTestDB = {} But shouldn't it have the defaults in there? |
| 00:52.13 | Gnarfoz | I'm still waiting for mine, too |
| 00:52.14 | Cide | you don't have any defaults? |
| 00:52.14 | Cide | you set the defaults in QIDTest |
| 00:52.14 | Gnarfoz | any idea why it's from AA_BooksUK? oO |
| 00:52.14 | Anaral_is_a_She | I do |
| 00:52.14 | Gnarfoz | (via amazon) |
| 00:52.14 | [Liquidor] | xcel-- |
| 00:52.14 | Anaral_is_a_She | up top |
| 00:52.14 | Cide | QIDTest != QIDTestDB |
| 00:52.20 | Arrowmaster | ~fail Cide |
| 00:52.21 | purl | You suck at everything in life, Cide. I hate you because you fail. |
| 00:52.30 | Cide | what? I'm right, as always |
| 00:52.34 | Arrowmaster | +(Cide) QIDTest ~= QIDTestDB |
| 00:52.35 | Arrowmaster | fixed |
| 00:52.44 | Cide | I'm a pythoneer |
| 00:52.49 | Arrowmaster | eww |
| 00:52.51 | [Liquidor] | xcel--, http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon |
| 00:52.56 | Cide | I just teach people lua because I'm that awesome |
| 00:52.56 | [Liquidor] | all you need |
| 00:53.02 | Cide | uhhhh |
| 00:53.03 | [Liquidor] | The rest is wowwiki.com |
| 00:53.06 | Cide | get that crap out of there |
| 00:53.09 | Cide | s/there/here/ |
| 00:53.13 | Arrowmaster | eww Ace2 |
| 00:53.23 | Cide | 1) if you go ace, go ace3 |
| 00:53.29 | Cide | 2) if you go ace3, don't |
| 00:53.30 | [Liquidor] | Be it ace or not, it's simple and straight forward |
| 00:53.38 | Cide | except it doesn't teach you how shit works |
| 00:53.52 | Cide | which you should know |
| 00:54.14 | [Liquidor] | Well there are Ebooks out there but cba searching for them now |
| 00:54.21 | Cide | I'm going to create a way to code addons in python |
| 00:54.30 | Cide | and translate them into lua |
| 00:54.42 | Tekkub | +UNITNAME_SUMMON_TITLE10 = "%s's Mount"; -- For when we want to lie about what vehicles are. :) |
| 00:54.45 | Anaral_is_a_She | Cide should function QIDTest:CheckSavedVars() be function QIDTestDB:CheckSavedVars{} |
| 00:54.53 | xcel-- | oki so I got that concat thing now .. but how do I make it set text on a new row? |
| 00:54.54 | Cide | no |
| 00:55.01 | Cide | Anaral_is_a_She: but your saved variable is QIDTestDB |
| 00:55.06 | Cide | you set your defaults in QIDTest |
| 00:55.09 | Cide | those are not the same |
| 00:55.17 | Cide | read the code |
| 00:55.47 | Anaral_is_a_She | I'm apparently reading it wrong. Because I don't get what I'm missing. |
| 00:56.05 | Cide | you're asking why the defaults are not set on QIDTestDB, right? |
| 00:56.54 | [Liquidor] | xcel--, http://www.lua.org/pil/11.6.html |
| 00:57.14 | Anaral_is_a_She | Yes |
| 00:57.30 | xcel-- | ty |
| 00:57.49 | Cide | Anaral_is_a_She: and on which table are you setting the defaults, at the top of your file? |
| 00:57.58 | Anaral_is_a_She | Yes |
| 00:58.08 | Cide | that was a question whose answer was not 'Yes' |
| 00:58.25 | Cide | god, I can't even speak english today |
| 00:58.34 | Cide | nor can I type it, for that matter |
| 00:58.42 | Anaral_is_a_She | heh. |
| 00:58.50 | Cide | on which table are you setting the defaults? |
| 00:58.55 | [Liquidor] | Anaral_is_a_She, what table do you use for defaults? |
| 00:59.14 | Cide | it's not like I'm not being clear |
| 00:59.18 | Cide | but thanks for asking the same question |
| 00:59.43 | Anaral_is_a_She | CheckSavedVars |
| 00:59.45 | [Liquidor] | Cide, Yes |
| 00:59.53 | Cide | ... |
| 01:00.03 | [Liquidor] | *lmao* |
| 01:00.04 | Cide | Anaral_is_a_She: your lines setting the defaults |
| 01:00.09 | Cide | Anaral_is_a_She: paste one of those |
| 01:00.14 | Shirik|Ecole | Cideeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 01:00.22 | Cide | shiiiiiiirik |
| 01:00.24 | Shirik|Ecole | hi |
| 01:00.30 | Cide | did you solve the grid stuff yet? |
| 01:00.35 | Shirik|Ecole | no |
| 01:00.38 | Anaral_is_a_She | if (not (QIDTestDB.showIcon)) then QIDTestDB.showIcon = self.showIcon end |
| 01:00.44 | Shirik|Ecole | I've been stomping on gdb because it refuses to listen to me |
| 01:00.45 | Cide | ok, I see what you mean |
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| 01:00.49 | Cide | now paste the other line, Anaral_is_a_She |
| 01:01.00 | [Liquidor] | Cide, line 21: function QIDTest:CheckSavedVars() |
| 01:01.07 | Cide | [Liquidor]: I'm not retarded |
| 01:01.12 | [Liquidor] | Cide, Yes |
| 01:01.16 | Cide | I just want her to realize her mistake |
| 01:01.29 | Cide | Anaral_is_a_She: what's the other line setting defaults? |
| 01:01.50 | Anaral_is_a_She | if (not (QIDTestDB)) then QIDTestDB = {} end |
| 01:01.56 | Cide | below that |
| 01:02.03 | Anaral_is_a_She | if (not (QidTestDB.enabled))then QidTestDB.enabled = self.enabledend |
| 01:02.06 | Cide | now |
| 01:02.12 | Cide | compare that line to the line with showIcon |
| 01:02.17 | xcel-- | ty for tonight .. I need some sleep and cigaretts to clear my mind .. goodnight |
| 01:02.19 | Cide | and realize that lua is a case-sensitive language |
| 01:02.45 | Anaral_is_a_She | I hate case sensitive |
| 01:02.47 | Cide | Shirik|Ecole: you fail to be honest |
| 01:02.55 | Shirik|Ecole | :( |
| 01:02.58 | Shirik|Ecole | I do not |
| 01:03.00 | Shirik|Ecole | I'll prove it |
| 01:03.09 | Cide | you have 3 minutes to solve the grid! |
| 01:03.19 | Cide | actually, I'll give you 30 since you fail so much |
| 01:03.43 | Cide | have you done any web programming, btw? |
| 01:04.05 | Anaral_is_a_She | Yay for stupid case sensitive languages! |
| 01:04.10 | Anaral_is_a_She | Thank you cide. |
| 01:04.14 | Cide | all languages I know of are case sensitive |
| 01:04.26 | Cide | so get used to it |
| 01:04.39 | Shirik|Ecole | (21:04:23) - [notice from NickServ]: You have too many nicks registered already. |
| 01:04.40 | Shirik|Ecole | :( |
| 01:04.49 | Anaral_is_a_She | Yeah, and I had even checked the casing earlier. |
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| 01:05.28 | Shirik|Ghost | As you can see, GDB hates me: http://wowi.pastey.net/95132 |
| 01:05.30 | *** part/#wowuidev Shirik|Ghost (n=Shirik|R@conspiracy/developer/Shirik) |
| 01:05.47 | Cide | you can't insert a breakpoint? :P |
| 01:05.58 | Shirik|Ecole | oh no, it's better than that |
| 01:06.03 | Shirik|Ecole | I DID insert a breakpoint, then ran to it |
| 01:06.08 | Anaral_is_a_She | Um, okay, now that the sv file is showing the variables correctly, when I use /qid icon ingame to disable the icon, it doesn't save... what did I do wrong now? |
| 01:06.09 | Cide | ah, right |
| 01:06.11 | Cide | continue |
| 01:06.12 | Shirik|Ecole | then tried to load symbols for one of the shared libraries |
| 01:06.20 | Shirik|Ecole | then tried to keep going and it's all like "wtfhax" |
| 01:06.38 | Cide | Anaral_is_a_She: you need to save it to the QIDTestDB table, not the QIDTest table |
| 01:07.23 | Cide | Shirik|Ecole: haha, that sucks |
| 01:07.43 | Cide | Shirik|Ecole: have you done any web programming? |
| 01:07.47 | Shirik|Ecole | sadly, yes |
| 01:07.53 | Cide | sadly? |
| 01:08.01 | Shirik|Ecole | I hate web programming so muchj |
| 01:08.05 | Cide | why? |
| 01:08.10 | Shirik|Ecole | it's so demeaning |
| 01:08.46 | Cide | how so? :P |
| 01:09.21 | Shirik|Ecole | Have you ever segfaulted in PHP? |
| 01:09.29 | Cide | yes |
| 01:09.41 | Cide | but if you do web programming in PHP, I understand your opinion |
| 01:09.42 | Shirik|Ecole | have you ever tracked down a pointer issue in HTML? |
| 01:09.44 | Shirik|Ecole | I think NOT |
| 01:09.52 | Cide | I use python |
| 01:09.57 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm sorry |
| 01:09.58 | Cide | I have full debugging functionality |
| 01:10.15 | Cide | both locally and remotely |
| 01:10.21 | Cide | so that's not too bad |
| 01:11.16 | Cide | anyway, all of ctprofiles is coded in php |
| 01:11.24 | Cide | never again |
| 01:11.58 | Anaral_is_a_She | Okay, I know I am ignorant as anything here, but how do I create the QIDTestDB table without needing to rewrite the entire addon? |
| 01:12.24 | Cide | you can just do QIDTestDB = { enabled = true, showIcon = true } |
| 01:12.26 | Cide | at the top of the file |
| 01:12.48 | Cide | and just be aware that the table will be overwritten with saved variables after VARIABLES_LOADED has fired |
| 01:13.24 | Cide | Anaral_is_a_She: why it isn't saved is because you're doing QIDTest.showIcon = ... instead of QIDTestDB.showIcon = ... |
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| 01:14.54 | Duman | hmm |
| 01:15.01 | Duman | northrend still up and down like crazy? |
| 01:15.11 | Syzgyn | Nope |
| 01:15.14 | Duman | really? |
| 01:15.16 | Corgan | World Server is down isn't center aligned ._. |
| 01:15.18 | Duman | I'm getting world server down |
| 01:15.24 | Duman | corgan: same |
| 01:15.25 | Syzgyn | I'm in |
| 01:15.29 | Corgan | It just went down |
| 01:15.38 | Duman | yeah, I just got booted |
| 01:15.56 | Syzgyn | I keep crashing trying to get into old strat |
| 01:16.01 | Syzgyn | but no server down |
| 01:16.25 | Duman | is old strat in northrend? It's not at CoT? |
| 01:16.35 | Syzgyn | its at CoT |
| 01:16.37 | Duman | ahh |
| 01:16.42 | Syzgyn | its some unfinished thing |
| 01:16.47 | Duman | yeah, northrend:northrend is crashing :) |
| 01:16.56 | Syzgyn | it wasnt 3 minutes ago |
| 01:17.03 | Duman | I know, it crashed 2 min ago :) |
| 01:17.06 | Syzgyn | hah |
| 01:17.13 | cbreak | coldara worked surprisingly well just now |
| 01:17.21 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 01:17.24 | cbreak | I guess not many europeans play at 0300 |
| 01:17.26 | Gnarfoz | too bad I'm now a oom-adin |
| 01:17.28 | Duman | and yeah, the "World server is down" is not centered in the dialog box... it's in the upper left |
| 01:17.36 | Anaral_is_a_She | Cide: Thank you for being ever so patient with me tonight. It is finally working properly. |
| 01:17.55 | Cide | I love helping people. |
| 01:18.03 | Corgan | Duman, it's bugging me :< |
| 01:18.03 | Syzgyn | FFS this is annoying |
| 01:18.07 | Duman | lol I jsut logged in |
| 01:18.12 | Duman | and say syz log off ;) |
| 01:18.21 | Syzgyn | I'm crashing immediately on load |
| 01:18.25 | Cide | if you people didn't spam the channel so much, maybe someone would catch my sarcasm |
| 01:18.38 | Syzgyn | Cide is such a giver |
| 01:18.44 | Syzgyn | Its very moving |
| 01:18.45 | Cide | that's what she said |
| 01:18.54 | Cide | but yes, it's true |
| 01:19.26 | Syzgyn | I keep hitting some unfinished object or something |
| 01:19.30 | Syzgyn | and cant load in :( |
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| 01:29.54 | Anaral_is_a_She | Hmm, the variable isn't staying saved... first reload it saves, second reload it resets. |
| 01:34.11 | [Liquidor] | Don't assign defaults to it every load if that's the case. |
| 01:37.04 | Anaral_is_a_She | Wee, figured it out. |
| 01:37.07 | Cide | you can safely do that |
| 01:37.17 | Cide | as long as you do it before SL is raised |
| 01:43.25 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: little regression in your wotlk branch of SBB btw - debuffs show buff tooltips again ;) |
| 01:43.33 | Shadowed | mmmm |
| 01:43.48 | Shadowed | I must have missed that |
| 01:43.50 | p3lim | Blizzard added a new error frame thingie to 8885? |
| 01:43.50 | Shadowed | I'll fix it somepoint |
| 01:43.54 | p3lim | Its ugly as hell |
| 01:45.30 | p3lim | "Fatal: Error loading texture file "Interface\Vehicles\UI-Vehicles-PartyFrame": The system cannot find the file specified." |
| 01:45.49 | p3lim | Spams every time I reload the ui :/ |
| 01:53.17 | Anaral_is_a_She | If not updating to wowi, how do you show the revision # in the toc & lua automagically? |
| 01:57.25 | Cide | to store revision you usually use some kind of source control system (svn, cvs, git) |
| 01:57.47 | Cide | svn can do those replacements automatically on every commit |
| 01:58.02 | Cide | without that, it'll be pretty tough (but also unnecessary if you ask me) |
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| 02:01.40 | Anaral_is_a_She | I use tortoise SVN |
| 02:02.03 | Anaral_is_a_She | I want to know it more for reference then for QID |
| 02:02.15 | Cide | if you're not committing it to a server, there's no new revision |
| 02:02.22 | Cide | for every commit there's a new revision |
| 02:02.26 | Anaral_is_a_She | Aye. |
| 02:03.36 | Anaral_is_a_She | And I know that I'm at revision 13 at wowi, and I think revision 6 at curse (with git) |
| 02:06.28 | Syzgyn | p3lim: /console errors 0 |
| 02:07.13 | p3lim | yep found out |
| 02:10.15 | Anaral_is_a_She | OOooh shiny. There's a lamppost outside the eng trainer in Dalaran that you can turn on. It makes a cool llil sound too. |
| 02:10.33 | Anaral_is_a_She | I feel like it should beam me up or something |
| 02:11.28 | Syzgyn | You can do that with most of the lamps in Dalaran :) |
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| 02:34.34 | bleeter | damn, Beta's GM tools have bugged out again. They might not get your petition, or might get it but can't unstuck folks, etc. etc. |
| 02:34.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Know what's fun? People whining on beta general about the economy. |
| 02:35.45 | End | haha |
| 02:35.51 | bleeter | I'm curious if they've 'fixed' the copper cap |
| 02:35.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Why would they? :P |
| 02:36.08 | bleeter | more gold to be earned these days |
| 02:36.15 | bleeter | and seriously.. SIGNED INT?? |
| 02:36.19 | Cide | they don't gain anything from fixing it :P |
| 02:36.24 | ScytheBlade1 | What Cide said |
| 02:36.32 | ScytheBlade1 | If it was an issue, that'd be one thing.. it isn't :P |
| 02:37.24 | Kaso | signed int make sense, then they can use the same construct to represent charges as well as gold amounts, so say a spell costs you -10000copper |
| 02:37.28 | Kaso | that's my guess |
| 02:37.42 | bleeter | mmm spose |
| 02:37.45 | Cide | that's not my guess |
| 02:37.53 | Kaso | what's your guess? |
| 02:38.00 | Cide | there's no point for that really |
| 02:38.05 | Cide | given that the database has 'cost' fields |
| 02:38.15 | Cide | the field itself indicates that it's a deduction |
| 02:38.29 | Kaso | it does?, ah well then i guess my theory is shot ;p |
| 02:38.30 | Cide | I'd blame silly design myself |
| 02:38.39 | Cide | but who knows |
| 02:39.16 | Syzgyn | bleeter: where'd you see about the GM tools issue? |
| 02:39.22 | bleeter | anyways, came up in a discussion last night with a mate. he was gunna copy his main 4 times. it's carrying some crazy gold amount |
| 02:39.37 | bleeter | Syzgyn: Beta Customer Service Forum... 'login issues' sticky |
| 02:39.42 | bleeter | seems some logins aren't working, either |
| 02:39.51 | bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9336577795&sid=2000 |
| 02:39.56 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm somewhat sure that at least two different guildies of mine carry around 100k minimum |
| 02:39.58 | End | they had a couple of ptrs in a row where my chars didn't get cleared |
| 02:40.13 | Syzgyn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9232545779&sid=2000 |
| 02:40.15 | End | so I just stacked all the gold from previous ptrs onto that last copy :P |
| 02:40.16 | Syzgyn | got fixed :) |
| 02:40.50 | bleeter | Syzgyn: that's an earlier post... |
| 02:41.07 | Syzgyn | Oh poop |
| 02:41.42 | bleeter | Syzgyn: I edited my reply to the GM just for you! :P |
| 02:42.26 | Syzgyn | Gee thanks :( |
| 02:43.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, poll time! This round's category: raid instance mechanics! And the question: Is Archimonde's Doomfire truly random, or does it follow people? |
| 02:43.37 | End | can it be both? |
| 02:43.44 | ScytheBlade1 | No. |
| 02:43.45 | End | I've seen it follow noone particular though |
| 02:43.47 | Pneumatus | a little from column a, and a little from column b |
| 02:44.07 | bleeter | heh |
| 02:44.50 | Pneumatus | sometimes they follow, sometimes they are random, sometimes they start off random and then follow, and sometimes they start following then go random |
| 02:44.53 | ScytheBlade1 | "We actually designated someone from each group to run "toward" the fire in order to 'grab' it and then proceed to kite away from Archimonde." <- an applicant we have now |
| 02:45.13 | End | that sounds silly |
| 02:45.19 | JerleMinara | pretty sure it's just random |
| 02:45.36 | bleeter | Syzgyn: i dunno, some of the applicants I see your guild get.. hell.=)) |
| 02:45.40 | bleeter | bah |
| 02:45.47 | bleeter | er s/syzgynz/sbo/ |
| 02:45.58 | ScytheBlade1 | One of the problems he said he had in his last guild on Archimonde.. "fires being kited directly through or into the melee group" |
| 02:46.01 | ScytheBlade1 | . . . |
| 02:46.19 | Syzgyn | ScytheBlade1: got a link? thats gold |
| 02:46.46 | Pneumatus | yeh, archimonde is a fight where melee actually have to think for themselves... it tends to throw them a bit |
| 02:46.51 | ScytheBlade1 | http://defenestrationguild.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=55608#55608 |
| 02:46.59 | Syzgyn | nice guild name >_> |
| 02:46.59 | bleeter | NOT TEH BRAINCELLS NOOOO!!!! |
| 02:47.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Also the post directly above that |
| 02:47.17 | ScytheBlade1 | My reply to that is on the following page |
| 02:49.32 | ScytheBlade1 | That guy is supposedly coming from a Sunwell guild... |
| 02:49.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I'ma cry |
| 02:50.53 | Pneumatus | "the MT constantly being airbursted" LULWHUT |
| 02:51.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah I'm not even touching that |
| 02:51.34 | End | we've had the MT get bursted, but then we were like oh wait, our melee is retarded |
| 02:51.40 | End | and suddenly the MT stopped getting bursted |
| 02:51.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Coincidentally |
| 02:51.52 | ScytheBlade1 | I now have Hybrid Theory on my playlist :P |
| 02:51.56 | ScytheBlade1 | (see page two) |
| 02:51.56 | End | Complete coincidence |
| 02:52.02 | End | :P |
| 02:52.07 | Syzgyn | Staying together for air burst.... |
| 02:52.28 | Pneumatus | staying together for air burst works until the first doomfire, then everyone scatters all over the place |
| 02:52.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Syzgyn: there is some rhyme and reason for that - given the circumstances |
| 02:52.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Syzgyn: not a whole lot, but some |
| 02:52.51 | Syzgyn | We've had our MT get bursted and still kill him a few times :P |
| 02:53.23 | Syzgyn | Ahaha nice pic |
| 02:53.24 | Pneumatus | we tend to raid mark our decursers, and make sure ranged are aware of where they are to stay near, simple as |
| 02:53.53 | ScytheBlade1 | ty |
| 02:54.04 | ScytheBlade1 | 22:51 < ScytheBlade1> I now have Hybrid Theory on my playlist :P |
| 02:54.21 | Syzgyn | Pneumatus: thats what we do too |
| 02:55.21 | Pneumatus | which basically means if your miles away from a decurser, you have about 6 seconds to run to one before you are on the brink of dying :) |
| 02:55.35 | ScytheBlade1 | yup |
| 02:55.39 | ScytheBlade1 | That's the time to use pots, etc |
| 02:56.04 | Pneumatus | we did try staying bunched in 5-man groups to start with, but you end up spread all over the place |
| 02:56.15 | ScytheBlade1 | IT'S LIKE THE FACE INSIDE IS RIGHT BENEATH MY SKIN |
| 02:56.19 | ScytheBlade1 | afk listening to Linkin Park |
| 02:57.11 | Syzgyn | haha |
| 02:59.49 | Anaral_is_a_She | Hey Ccox, buy me anything? |
| 03:00.17 | ccox | Anaral - if you come over, I'll cook dinner (low carb, low sodium) |
| 03:01.20 | Anaral_is_a_She | Heh, sure! Where do you live? |
| 03:01.22 | ccox | just went for the weekly Costco/grocery run |
| 03:01.27 | ccox | San Jose, CA |
| 03:02.20 | Anaral_is_a_She | I was born there! Moved all the way to the south eastern coast of VA when I was 11. |
| 03:02.31 | Anaral_is_a_She | I miss SJ so much. |
| 03:02.49 | ccox | SJ has changed a lot, even in the past few years |
| 03:03.19 | Anaral_is_a_She | I'm sure. Heck, I admit, I probably miss the idea of it more than the actual place. |
| 03:03.44 | bleeter | hell, I might just TX to ScytheBlade1's realm after that abortion. /gquit a guild three months ago, they've been begging me back ever since. so finally rejoined, signed up on Tuesday for today's ZA run. 10 mins before start, 'soz group full' aaarghargahrgahrg |
| 03:03.50 | ccox | it's a great place to live, if you have a really well paying job |
| 03:03.59 | ccox | without a good job, it blows (too expensive) |
| 03:04.05 | Anaral_is_a_She | It's been well over 15 years, so yeah, my memories are very skewed. |
| 03:04.36 | bleeter | Anaral_is_a_She: I just noticed your nick change... did someone think you had boy bits? hahaha |
| 03:04.53 | Anaral_is_a_She | Many someones. |
| 03:05.01 | ccox | with many of the nicknames, it's hard to tell |
| 03:05.10 | ccox | (I still think bleeter is a sheep) |
| 03:05.18 | ScytheBlade1 | truth @ ccox |
| 03:05.30 | Anaral_is_a_She | Heh |
| 03:07.38 | Syzgyn | thats some suck bleeter |
| 03:07.55 | ScytheBlade1 | I just threw this image into the thread I linked |
| 03:07.56 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/misc/LinkinPark.png |
| 03:08.01 | bleeter | yar, so I hearthed and logged without saying anything |
| 03:08.25 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: class/spec? :P |
| 03:08.29 | bleeter | i mean, US realm.. daily raiding 1pm my time ain't good, they know it. only weekends for me... screw'em |
| 03:08.32 | Anaral_is_a_She | I see bleeter's name and half the time I read Bleeker, and if I am really tired, beeker. |
| 03:08.37 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: priest, druid, mage, hunter.. lol |
| 03:08.40 | ScytheBlade1 | ah, haha |
| 03:08.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Well we need healers if you can raid from 7:30 PM MST to 10:30 PM MST (-0700) ;) |
| 03:10.02 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: to be honest, contemplating a move back to Oceanic realms.. but .. they have their own problems, and will prolly just get worse (again) on LK release |
| 03:11.05 | Syzgyn | ScytheBlade1: http://i38.tinypic.com/33msqv9.jpg |
| 03:11.14 | Syzgyn | :P |
| 03:11.19 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 03:11.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Reanimation ftw? |
| 03:11.34 | Syzgyn | ^^ |
| 03:11.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Good |
| 03:11.45 | Syzgyn | Most of it FTW |
| 03:11.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Fair enough |
| 03:11.51 | Syzgyn | it being all their CDs |
| 03:12.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 03:12.19 | Syzgyn | Minutes had the largest number of 'meh' songs though :\ |
| 03:12.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 03:13.15 | Syzgyn | Hey-look-a-song-where-we-repeat-the-same-chorus-for-over-half-of-the-song! |
| 03:13.35 | ScytheBlade1 | More or less |
| 03:16.06 | Syzgyn | Ok, so I have a table, and I have 3 buttons to sort it for different things |
| 03:16.30 | Syzgyn | I need a good function to make it so if I click the same button twice, it reverses the sort |
| 03:17.38 | Syzgyn | So basically how the guild frame does it |
| 03:19.41 | Syzgyn | oh oh oh |
| 03:19.50 | Syzgyn | bleeter: go check your post on that sticky |
| 03:20.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Which sticky? |
| 03:20.29 | Syzgyn | the CSF one |
| 03:20.34 | Syzgyn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9336577795&sid=2000 |
| 03:22.41 | Duman | lol |
| 03:22.45 | Duman | world server assplosion |
| 03:22.50 | Syzgyn | still stuck though |
| 03:23.24 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:23.32 | ScytheBlade1 | I thought that I had just finally AFK DC'd, haha |
| 03:23.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Not that the world server died |
| 03:24.14 | bleeter | Syzgyn: aye, I prodded the GM via Live Customer Support Forum 'offtopic' thread ;) |
| 03:24.15 | Corgan | sigh |
| 03:24.16 | Duman | heh |
| 03:24.19 | Corgan | world server goes down |
| 03:24.29 | Corgan | as I'm in a group doing the amphitheater quest |
| 03:24.35 | Corgan | last one in the chain |
| 03:24.39 | Corgan | 10% health |
| 03:24.41 | Duman | you'll be rolled back whenyou log abck in, don't worry |
| 03:24.41 | Corgan | wooo |
| 03:24.47 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 03:24.48 | Duman | ;) |
| 03:24.51 | Corgan | :( |
| 03:24.51 | ScytheBlade1 | ~Duman++ |
| 03:25.28 | Syzgyn | Kalimdor needs to go down |
| 03:25.33 | Duman | heh |
| 03:25.41 | Duman | you seem to be able to log in |
| 03:25.44 | Syzgyn | then I can log in and get ported |
| 03:25.44 | Duman | at least, i see you log in |
| 03:26.05 | Syzgyn | you go offline immediately |
| 03:26.09 | Duman | hmm |
| 03:26.15 | Syzgyn | but stick around in the guild list for some reason |
| 03:26.17 | Syzgyn | I dunno |
| 03:26.23 | Syzgyn | but I'm definitely not on for that long |
| 03:31.19 | Syzgyn | heres hoping I'm moved by tomorrow :\ |
| 03:41.45 | End | oh dear, my realm is failing |
| 03:42.05 | End | 7 people just went offline :o |
| 03:42.20 | End | at the same exact time |
| 03:44.09 | Keias | o_O |
| 03:44.11 | Keias | What realm? |
| 03:44.15 | Keias | Cause it just happened to me too |
| 03:44.18 | End | bonechewer |
| 03:44.27 | End | I think it's something to do with the network |
| 03:44.34 | End | I had my ping spike to 4k |
| 03:44.35 | Keias | I'm in the same battlegroup |
| 03:44.41 | Keias | Yeah, happened on Dragonmaw too |
| 03:44.44 | End | ah |
| 03:44.52 | End | interesting |
| 03:45.02 | End | most people who got booted are back online |
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| 03:54.51 | Duman | noooooooooooooooo |
| 03:54.57 | Duman | stupid world server |
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| 04:04.26 | ScytheBlade1 | http://zombo.com/ |
| 04:04.29 | ScytheBlade1 | sound, but not loud |
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| 05:10.18 | Tekkub | does the wowi updater work with Wraff? Wanna get my dumbass duo partner updating shit and he's yet to master using zips |
| 05:10.32 | Syzgyn | o.O |
| 05:10.39 | ScytheBlade1 | The wowi updater is actually considered dead |
| 05:10.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik is rewriting it |
| 05:10.47 | Tekkub | well fuck that idea |
| 05:10.53 | ScytheBlade1 | (But he's pretty busy...) |
| 05:11.10 | Syzgyn | Using zips is hard... |
| 05:11.15 | Tekkub | I just keep helling at him not to put shit in \Addons\Name\Name\Name.toc |
| 05:11.20 | Tekkub | *yelling |
| 05:11.24 | Syzgyn | :( |
| 05:11.34 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ Name\Name\Name.toc |
| 05:11.37 | ScytheBlade1 | He's a true winner |
| 05:11.42 | Syzgyn | Is he like, totally computer illiterate? |
| 05:11.51 | Tekkub | Syzgyn... uhm were you here for the retardadin thing the other day? |
| 05:12.06 | ScytheBlade1 | HAHA |
| 05:12.07 | ScytheBlade1 | HIM |
| 05:12.18 | Tekkub | yes, him |
| 05:12.19 | Syzgyn | Ohhh hahaha yes |
| 05:12.30 | Tekkub | make sense now? |
| 05:12.50 | Syzgyn | I guess I made the assumption that you can be terrible in wow and still know a little about computers |
| 05:13.05 | Tekkub | well, okey you want to know the REALLY scary thing? |
| 05:13.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Probably not |
| 05:13.13 | Tekkub | in his family, he's the computer guru |
| 05:13.29 | Syzgyn | Dubbya Tee Eff |
| 05:13.41 | Tekkub | I can't explain it |
| 05:13.51 | Syzgyn | How old is this guy? |
| 05:14.02 | Tekkub | but he keeps calling me on weekends trying to fix wireless for his sister and shit |
| 05:14.04 | Tekkub | 42 |
| 05:14.15 | Syzgyn | and he cant figure out that zip files have nested folders? |
| 05:14.39 | Tekkub | yes just does that "extract to 'foldername'" things in the menu |
| 05:14.55 | Tekkub | seriously, I need to write a program that just lets me install shit for him |
| 05:15.15 | Syzgyn | I take it theres no physical proximity? |
| 05:15.27 | Tekkub | bout 15 min drive |
| 05:15.40 | Syzgyn | Eh, that might be less headache over the long run |
| 05:15.48 | Tekkub | but odd hours that me we only get to see each other every month or so |
| 05:15.54 | Syzgyn | Ahh |
| 05:16.08 | Tekkub | we play midnight-2am normally |
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| 05:16.30 | Syzgyn | Make a CD with the whole interface and WTF folders layed out |
| 05:16.44 | Syzgyn | tell him to unzip it right onto his base drive |
| 05:16.52 | Tekkub | he'd still fuck that up |
| 05:16.55 | Syzgyn | hahah |
| 05:17.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Forget unzipping it |
| 05:17.11 | Tekkub | seriously, I just need a damn remote connection to his comp |
| 05:17.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Put the folder structure on the CD plain |
| 05:17.19 | Arrowmaster | windows has that built in |
| 05:17.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Throw in a batch file |
| 05:17.23 | Syzgyn | VNC maybe? |
| 05:17.31 | ScytheBlade1 | + autorun.inf |
| 05:17.34 | ScytheBlade1 | "Here, put this in" |
| 05:17.38 | ScytheBlade1 | *copies stuff over* |
| 05:17.43 | ScytheBlade1 | "There, done" |
| 05:18.41 | Tekkub | hrm... I wonder if I could devise a simple batch script to install shit for him |
| 05:18.54 | ScytheBlade1 | It really wouldn't be much |
| 05:19.31 | Tekkub | something he could just drop the zip file on |
| 05:19.41 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd work |
| 05:19.43 | Tekkub | he can at least download zips |
| 05:19.50 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd actually work really well |
| 05:20.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Have it check for <Filename>.zip in Addons\<Filename>, nuke it |
| 05:20.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Then extract |
| 05:20.17 | Tekkub | exactly |
| 05:21.01 | Tekkub | I know he has XP.. there any nice commands for it's built in zip thingy |
| 05:21.24 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd probably be the hardest bit |
| 05:21.37 | ScytheBlade1 | You may have to call rundll.exe with nasty params to work |
| 05:21.42 | ScytheBlade1 | I mean really nasty params |
| 05:21.57 | Tekkub | http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb490884.aspx |
| 05:22.03 | Tekkub | compact /u |
| 05:22.09 | ScytheBlade1 | compact does zips? |
| 05:22.27 | ScytheBlade1 | "Displays and alters the compression of files or directories on NTFS partitions." |
| 05:22.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Didn't think so |
| 05:22.35 | ScytheBlade1 | That's file system compression |
| 05:22.37 | Tekkub | hrm.. maybe |
| 05:22.44 | ScytheBlade1 | "Used without parameters, compact displays the compression state of the current directory." |
| 05:22.48 | ScytheBlade1 | That's file system compression |
| 05:30.51 | steev | ScytheBlade1: zipfldr.dll |
| 05:31.18 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd be the DLL! |
| 05:32.05 | steev | rundll32 |
| 05:32.07 | steev | bitch |
| 05:33.43 | steev | hrm |
| 05:33.55 | steev | well, actually that doesn't *quite* work |
| 05:34.20 | steev | and its not nasty params |
| 05:34.27 | steev | i mean it just pops open the file |
| 05:34.40 | Tekkub | But if all you want to do is copy files out of the ZIP file use the copy command. |
| 05:34.40 | Tekkub | copy <myzip>\*.* <mydest> |
| 05:34.41 | ScytheBlade1 | It doesn't export creation/extraction? |
| 05:34.42 | Tekkub | hrm... |
| 05:34.47 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:34.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Gogo windows developers |
| 05:35.23 | steev | if he already has xp, why does he need some command to extract the zip? |
| 05:35.44 | ScytheBlade1 | He's trying to write a small batch file to install addons for the otherwise computer retarded |
| 05:35.44 | Tekkub | read up :P |
| 05:36.39 | steev | ah that |
| 05:36.43 | Tekkub | yea copy doesn't work either, noone knows how to access the built in unzipper >< |
| 05:36.49 | ScytheBlade1 | =[ |
| 05:37.15 | Syzgyn | include winzip or something that works with batch? |
| 05:37.37 | Tekkub | I'll probably just make him drop 7z and it's dll in the sys32 folder |
| 05:37.51 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd work |
| 05:38.33 | Syzgyn | <OT> Why the FUCK are people badgering for class and racewide titles at 80?</OT> |
| 05:39.09 | Tekkub | *shrug* I'd like more "casual" titles |
| 05:39.22 | Syzgyn | They added some of those too |
| 05:39.30 | Tekkub | I've NEVER had a title... I'd like a few to pick from, even if they're stupid and everyone else has it too |
| 05:39.37 | Syzgyn | but if every single lvl 80 warrior can have the same title, whats the freaking point? |
| 05:39.45 | End | Tekkub: not even Grunt/Private? |
| 05:39.47 | Syzgyn | or every 80 human |
| 05:39.58 | Tekkub | I remember in FFXI you got little titles for nearly every quest, but they only showed in your inspect frame |
| 05:40.05 | Tekkub | End, no I don't pvp |
| 05:40.34 | Syzgyn | They added titles for cooking and fishing |
| 05:40.59 | Tekkub | th lv80 titles are server firsts syz |
| 05:41.03 | Syzgyn | I know |
| 05:41.10 | Syzgyn | I want them to stay that way |
| 05:41.16 | Tekkub | :P |
| 05:41.29 | Syzgyn | Theres a massive thread of people who disagree with me though |
| 05:41.38 | Tekkub | I mean, in addition to the "special" titles I want stupid ones that are easy to get |
| 05:41.54 | Syzgyn | Theres one for doing 3k quests |
| 05:41.59 | Syzgyn | one for exploring the whole world |
| 05:42.18 | Syzgyn | one for getting 40 exalted reps |
| 05:42.31 | Tekkub | why not say, one for doing all the tuskarr's quests... Blubber lover Tekkub |
| 05:42.36 | End | haha |
| 05:42.37 | Syzgyn | Haha |
| 05:42.44 | Syzgyn | Theres a few for some of the world events too |
| 05:42.47 | End | Tekkub does love the blubber |
| 05:42.57 | Syzgyn | Lunar Festival gets Elder |
| 05:43.12 | Syzgyn | Midsummer get Flame Warden |
| 05:43.14 | Tekkub | DEHTA.. Furry Hippie |
| 05:43.31 | Tekkub | those still require lots of effort to get :P |
| 05:43.36 | Syzgyn | They should |
| 05:43.59 | Syzgyn | IMO at least, require *a little* time invested |
| 05:44.10 | Syzgyn | Otherwise whats the point? |
| 05:44.11 | Tekkub | a little yes, not a ton :P |
| 05:44.26 | Tekkub | like, in the process of leveling you should pick up one or two stupid ones |
| 05:44.31 | Syzgyn | Meh |
| 05:44.43 | Tekkub | who cares if everyone else on the server has it? |
| 05:44.51 | Tekkub | everyone has a brewfest ram |
| 05:45.05 | Tekkub | that doesn't make em less fun |
| 05:45.16 | Tekkub | there's just BETTER ones for more time invested |
| 05:45.19 | Syzgyn | You're right, I wouldnt mind if there were a few you could get while leveling, but make people still have to go a little out of the way for |
| 05:45.29 | Syzgyn | like doing 2 full quest chains or something |
| 05:45.44 | Syzgyn | but a title for hitting 80, Wooooo... |
| 05:45.46 | Tekkub | exactly... like invest one or two nights |
| 05:45.48 | steev | ScytheBlade1: Dunzip32.dll |
| 05:46.22 | Syzgyn | The whole thing is everyone thinks the server first titles are so cool, everyone wants to be ___ of the Ebon Hand |
| 05:46.23 | Syzgyn | or whatever |
| 05:46.54 | steev | mayeb, i dunno |
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| 05:46.58 | Tekkub | WTB addon dev titles |
| 05:47.03 | Syzgyn | haha |
| 05:47.03 | End | I'm specifically avoiding server first titles |
| 05:47.11 | Syzgyn | Why? |
| 05:47.15 | Tekkub | Grand Code Master Tekkub |
| 05:47.21 | End | because I don't want to rush through things :P |
| 05:47.27 | Tekkub | Code Monkey Tekkub |
| 05:47.29 | Syzgyn | heh |
| 05:47.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Code Monkey |
| 05:47.39 | ScytheBlade1 | I like that :P |
| 05:47.52 | Tekkub | I really like that idea, give back to the addon devs! |
| 05:48.10 | Syzgyn | The only way you'll be able to get one of the server first titles is if you do like the guy did in BC, and have your whole guild help level you |
| 05:48.34 | Syzgyn | I know I wont get one |
| 05:48.34 | Tekkub | hell, do it on the low down, give Cairenn the keys and let her give them out as she sees fit, and don't publicize it |
| 05:48.48 | End | horde side first was solo |
| 05:48.57 | End | alliance side was a guy with his guild though |
| 05:49.03 | Syzgyn | Tek, as soon as it was in game mmo-champ would find it :\ |
| 05:49.13 | Tekkub | true that |
| 05:49.28 | End | although |
| 05:49.29 | Tekkub | but they still wouldn't know how to get one |
| 05:49.33 | Syzgyn | heh |
| 05:49.39 | Tekkub | it'd be like a secret No HOmers club |
| 05:49.41 | End | guild help will probably be even more common now |
| 05:49.52 | Syzgyn | Yeah |
| 05:49.54 | End | given that there's a lasting mark |
| 05:50.00 | Syzgyn | Exactly |
| 05:50.16 | End | so yeah, definitely not gonna concern myself with server first titles :P |
| 05:50.26 | Tekkub | fishing should be Master Baiter %s |
| 05:50.30 | Syzgyn | Me neither, but they still shouldnt give them out to the masses |
| 05:50.44 | Syzgyn | Fishing is Salty! |
| 05:50.51 | Tekkub | Salty should be Cook |
| 05:50.58 | End | no |
| 05:51.01 | Syzgyn | Cooking is Chef |
| 05:51.05 | End | Iron Chef |
| 05:51.06 | Syzgyn | first Cook is Iron Chef |
| 05:51.10 | Tekkub | true |
| 05:51.36 | Tekkub | still, I want Code Monkey |
| 05:51.41 | End | (Master Baiter would be funny though) |
| 05:51.56 | Syzgyn | heh |
| 05:52.06 | End | that's a lot of master baiting |
| 05:52.13 | Syzgyn | You can get 'The Hallowed' from halloween quests |
| 05:53.16 | Syzgyn | Urg, this table sorting is kicking my ass |
| 05:55.34 | Syzgyn | Whats a good way to keep track of multiple sorts on the same table? |
| 05:59.04 | Tekkub | multiple tables you sort |
| 05:59.48 | Tekkub | or multiple sorting functions if you don't mind resorting every time |
| 06:00.24 | Syzgyn | Like, I have a table populated with achievements, and 3 buttons to sort it by name, points, or completion date |
| 06:00.34 | steev | woo |
| 06:00.38 | steev | attempting a za speed run |
| 06:00.51 | Syzgyn | I want to be able to click them in any order, and have it sort the table in its current state |
| 06:01.16 | Tekkub | give each a different function to pass to table.sort |
| 06:02.15 | Syzgyn | what about reversing the sort if one button is pushed twice in a row? |
| 06:02.31 | Xinhuan | give each a different function to pass to table.sort |
| 06:02.37 | Tekkub | make a second sort function |
| 06:03.52 | Syzgyn | hmm I think I can get that to work |
| 06:03.53 | Syzgyn | thanks |
| 06:05.48 | Tekkub | heh, I think I have it all worked out |
| 06:06.15 | Tekkub | I'll make a batch that "installs" 7z in the sys32 folder for him and makes a shortcut in the "send to" folder |
| 06:06.32 | Tekkub | then he only need right click the zip, send to, addon installer |
| 06:07.20 | Syzgyn | Nice |
| 06:07.42 | NeoTron | less |
| 06:07.45 | Ac-town | would their happen to be a function in the api to see if the user is casting? |
| 06:07.45 | NeoTron | oops |
| 06:07.53 | NeoTron | |
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| 06:22.07 | Tekkub | where does wrath install to by default? |
| 06:22.09 | Syzgyn | Hmm, well its working, but lua fails at keeping elements with the same value in the order they were in |
| 06:22.20 | Tekkub | C;\Program Files\Wrath of the Lich King Beta ?? |
| 06:22.29 | Syzgyn | I'd guess there, not sure though |
| 06:22.58 | Fisker- | never relax Tekkub |
| 06:23.03 | Fisker- | and yes it does install there |
| 06:23.14 | steev | feh |
| 06:23.17 | steev | lost both tanks |
| 06:23.30 | steev | bear boss |
| 06:23.37 | steev | downed eagle boss first, so at least one chest, so yay |
| 06:23.39 | Dashkal | whoa, whole thing went down |
| 06:23.45 | ccox|dinner | yep |
| 06:23.46 | Syzgyn | Server Down! |
| 06:23.55 | ccox | looks like all of northrend server |
| 06:23.56 | Syzgyn | WTB patch |
| 06:24.01 | Syzgyn | heh |
| 06:24.10 | Syzgyn | steev: what were your tanks? |
| 06:24.11 | bleeter | i got kicked back to login screen :/ |
| 06:24.28 | steev | pally druid |
| 06:24.36 | steev | pally human form, drood bear |
| 06:24.41 | Syzgyn | lol |
| 06:24.48 | steev | both got the bleeds |
| 06:24.55 | Syzgyn | thats some fail on their part |
| 06:24.58 | steev | *shrug* we had 10 people on figured we'd give it a shot |
| 06:25.14 | steev | they had double bleeds or something, i don't really pay attention, i just throw chain lightning and chain heal |
| 06:25.19 | Syzgyn | lol |
| 06:25.29 | Syzgyn | if they both had the bleed, it means they were taunting at the wrong time |
| 06:25.44 | Syzgyn | they pretty much fail |
| 06:25.59 | Syzgyn | or was it their first time there? |
| 06:26.44 | Syzgyn | BAH, still stuck |
| 06:27.14 | steev | woot! |
| 06:27.24 | steev | pally tank shoulders dropped |
| 06:27.25 | Syzgyn | Is there some way to get table.sort to keep the same order if the elements are the same |
| 06:27.26 | Syzgyn | ? |
| 06:27.28 | Syzgyn | nice |
| 06:27.33 | steev | thats what our pally tank needed |
| 06:27.38 | Syzgyn | grats to him |
| 06:27.42 | steev | he's lost the last 4 rolls for em in gruul's |
| 06:28.04 | Syzgyn | ouch |
| 06:28.15 | Syzgyn | oh wait, you were going for a speed run in T4? |
| 06:30.02 | steev | yah! |
| 06:30.19 | steev | if the tanks hadn't dropped we woulda had the second boss |
| 06:30.33 | steev | our guild is... unconventional |
| 06:30.38 | steev | we 3 man heroics |
| 06:30.53 | steev | in t4 gear :-P |
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| 06:32.26 | Syzgyn | lol |
| 06:32.39 | Syzgyn | You can totally do 2 bosses in T4 |
| 06:32.44 | Syzgyn | 3 is tough though |
| 06:35.30 | bleeter | hahaha... guys, try running the repair tool in your Beta |
| 06:36.22 | bleeter | tip: you can't. have to reinstall from scratch. Repair ... needs ... repairing ;) |
| 06:36.37 | Syzgyn | heh yeah |
| 06:39.39 | steev | eh |
| 06:39.44 | steev | we will get it one day |
| 06:40.06 | Arrowmaster | protip: try running the repair tool on a mac |
| 06:40.24 | steev | protip: macs suck |
| 06:41.37 | bleeter | funny |
| 06:41.53 | bleeter | I've not heard one 'macs suck' person continue to say 'macs suck' after seeing the ingame video recording stuffs |
| 06:43.26 | bleeter | Arrowmaster: pro-tip: try FINDING the repair tool on a mac ;) |
| 06:43.37 | bleeter | should be a special Achievement if you do :0 |
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| 06:44.02 | Arrowmaster | oh shit this xml file is 7mb |
| 06:44.09 | steev | bleeter: meh, don't really care about video recording to be honest |
| 06:44.45 | Arrowmaster | oh fuck |
| 06:44.52 | Arrowmaster | accidently opened it in notepad |
| 06:44.53 | bleeter | ah, so they suck because they have superior features that you don't use. fair enough. |
| 06:46.41 | Arrowmaster | so i just tried to open a 7mb xml file in firefox3 |
| 06:46.47 | bleeter | hahaha |
| 06:46.55 | Arrowmaster | it exploded my memory usage to over 800mb |
| 06:47.22 | bleeter | :( |
| 06:47.47 | bleeter | i'd say I was surprised to hear.. but I'd be lying and you'd prolly guess that too ;) |
| 06:51.32 | steev | mac's have more features than just a video game... but at least they have 1 video game :-P |
| 06:53.10 | bleeter | well, 2... maybe 2.5 |
| 06:53.38 | Tekkub | http://github.com/tekkub/addoninstaller/tree/master |
| 06:53.47 | Tekkub | it makes me so sad I had to write that |
| 06:53.56 | Arrowmaster | ROFL |
| 06:54.23 | Arrowmaster | firefox3 using 1,192,312 K of "Private Bytes" in Process Explorer |
| 06:54.29 | Arrowmaster | i only have 1gig of ram |
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| 06:54.55 | Syzgyn | Win |
| 06:55.08 | Arrowmaster | it hit 1,200,000 K |
| 06:55.11 | Arrowmaster | then droped |
| 06:55.52 | Tekkub | uhm, virtual memory much? |
| 06:56.06 | Arrowmaster | thats a different column |
| 06:56.19 | Tekkub | :P |
| 06:56.25 | Tekkub | 144 MiB here |
| 06:56.31 | Arrowmaster | im not sure what "Private Bytes" is now |
| 07:04.25 | steev | ugh |
| 07:04.28 | steev | epic fails |
| 07:04.41 | steev | 3% on dragonhawk and i let the tank die |
| 07:05.15 | Syzgyn | :( |
| 07:08.33 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* |
| 07:08.36 | haste | steev: did you find any solution :p ? |
| 07:09.29 | smcn | aw |
| 07:09.40 | smcn | i wasn't even lagging and world server crashed :( |
| 07:09.41 | haste | Arrowmaster: I've seen firefox leak, and push every other application into swap |
| 07:09.56 | haste | but hey, you use like 50M when you kill it :D |
| 07:16.18 | Fisker- | damn |
| 07:16.24 | Fisker- | and here i was thinking beacon of light was cool |
| 07:19.59 | Thunder_Child | cooler than you |
| 07:22.56 | steev | haste: no sir |
| 07:23.05 | steev | haste: im really fairly clueless :) |
| 07:23.24 | steev | haste: well, i guess, i went back to the old version... :-P |
| 07:23.30 | steev | thats one solution ;) |
| 07:23.39 | haste | might as well for the time being |
| 07:24.28 | steev | i started working on a paladin and a shaman one as well |
| 07:24.37 | steev | shaman being ankh's for self-rez |
| 07:24.45 | haste | hm? |
| 07:25.38 | steev | well i created paladin.lua and shaman.lua |
| 07:25.44 | steev | i have no idea if im doing it right but meh |
| 07:26.01 | steev | since neither requires a tradeskill |
| 07:26.23 | steev | paladin's being symbol of kings (for greater blessings) and symbol of divinity for DI's |
| 07:27.11 | haste | you'll have to add them based on itemids |
| 07:27.22 | steev | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/95155 |
| 07:27.26 | steev | like that? |
| 07:27.52 | haste | select(23 : ? |
| 07:28.02 | steev | er |
| 07:28.04 | steev | i have no idea |
| 07:28.08 | steev | i was just typing things |
| 07:28.18 | steev | but i figured its name was 23 characters long |
| 07:28.33 | steev | clueless ftw |
| 07:29.03 | haste | it should be 10 :p |
| 07:29.40 | steev | k |
| 07:29.51 | haste | I don't think Atropine calls that function for you however |
| 07:29.55 | steev | since im clueless |
| 07:30.00 | steev | what exactly does the 10 mean |
| 07:31.06 | haste | what return it should return |
| 07:31.40 | haste | it's instead of doing: local name, _, _, _, _, _, _, _, _, _, texture = GetItemInfo(x) |
| 07:31.46 | steev | ahh |
| 07:34.11 | steev | so is there anything (conceivably) wrong with the code i had pasted earlier with the rogue poisons? or do i possibly just have the wrong spellid's? |
| 07:35.38 | steev | or would you like me to repaste it |
| 07:35.52 | haste | why are you adding them like that? |
| 07:36.12 | steev | in rogue.lua? |
| 07:36.38 | haste | It doesn't matter where |
| 07:36.57 | steev | i added them like that because thats how the flash powder was added |
| 07:37.19 | haste | flash powder is special, it's its own material :p |
| 07:38.12 | steev | ahh |
| 07:38.14 | steev | okay |
| 07:38.16 | steev | so i fail |
| 07:38.28 | Fisker- | btw |
| 07:38.31 | haste | that's why the rogue.lua scans the tradeskills to build the list |
| 07:38.36 | Fisker- | people says ReiserFS is so good cause it murders your wife |
| 07:38.43 | Fisker- | but NTFS fucking kills google |
| 07:38.49 | haste | it's murderfs you nub |
| 07:39.52 | steev | haste: so how do i tell it how many of each? |
| 07:40.07 | steev | i.e. i want 60 deadly poisons, but only 20 crippling |
| 07:40.30 | Fisker- | ooh look at the pretty flowers |
| 07:40.31 | haste | :setAutoRefill(name, refill, quantity) |
| 07:49.57 | Fisker- | haste |
| 07:50.06 | haste | Fisker- |
| 07:50.08 | Fisker- | this keygen for spore without any actual release of spore seems very legit |
| 07:50.13 | Fisker- | it has an .exe file i can run |
| 07:50.18 | haste | go for it! |
| 07:50.25 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 07:50.36 | Fisker- | oh nos now it says it has credit card details |
| 07:50.37 | Fisker- | :( |
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| 08:00.59 | Tekkub | anyone got sample code for "EasyMenu"? the "documentation" is like, shit |
| 08:10.18 | Aiiane | easymenu not so easy? |
| 08:10.56 | Tekkub | nope, in fact I don't see much point to it at all |
| 08:11.18 | Tekkub | it seems to only handle showing the menu.. you still have to construct everything else |
| 08:14.54 | Fisker- | haste |
| 08:15.03 | Fisker- | they buffed zeps in wotlk |
| 08:15.17 | Fisker- | instead of bringing me to tirisfal glades, it did the opposite |
| 08:15.59 | smcn | brought tirisfal glades to you? |
| 08:16.10 | Fisker- | yep |
| 08:16.30 | Fisker- | was ported out into the water |
| 08:16.34 | smcn | zeppelins use dark matter engines like planet express ship :P |
| 08:16.37 | Fisker- | and there was all these npc's |
| 08:16.41 | smcn | lol |
| 08:16.44 | Fisker- | http://i35.tinypic.com/2j0nngj.jpg |
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| 08:16.55 | smcn | rofl |
| 08:17.05 | Fisker- | basically i found out i was in brill |
| 08:17.10 | ccox | from the sound of things, zeppelins drop everyone in the water while the reload screen is up |
| 08:17.34 | ccox | bizarre |
| 08:17.39 | smcn | i saw a SS from the AQ event on some server, the boat from menethil -> theramore ended up in stonetalon |
| 08:18.12 | Fisker- | that's usual |
| 08:18.20 | smcn | like soemthing out of lost :P |
| 08:18.21 | Fisker- | failsafe spot when it fails to do what it should |
| 08:30.08 | Arrowmaster | its been speculated that that is the exact center of kalimdor |
| 08:30.25 | Arrowmaster | or something |
| 08:34.30 | Fisker- | it's not |
| 08:35.08 | Fisker- | atleast it shouldn't be |
| 08:39.48 | Arrowmaster | well im fairly certain it was never intended to be a 'failsafe' spot and its completely accidental because it cant get to the correct spot or cant remember the correct spot |
| 08:40.38 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 08:41.21 | Arrowmaster | maybe like the very first object in the kalimdor object array is there or something, we dont know but its entirely addicental but always goes to that same exact spot when it does happen |
| 08:43.23 | Fisker- | extremely odd |
| 08:43.47 | Arrowmaster | the spot is clipping into a hillside if i remember correctly |
| 08:44.13 | Arrowmaster | the eastern kingdomes spot is around the horde AV entrance |
| 08:44.15 | Fisker- | if i try to view: http://forums.curseforge.com/showthread.php?p=27#post27 it doesn't give you a scroll bar to go to the bottom of the post, like it thought there was nothing more |
| 08:44.27 | Fisker- | but if i view the source and refresh then it works fine |
| 08:44.30 | Fisker- | nice bug |
| 08:46.58 | steev | l2firefox nub |
| 08:47.43 | Arrowmaster | yeah get ff3 |
| 08:47.45 | Arrowmaster | =D |
| 08:47.58 | Fisker- | why get Final Fantasy 3? |
| 08:48.02 | Fisker- | how does that help me? |
| 08:48.28 | Arrowmaster | because its full of win |
| 08:48.38 | Fisker- | I disagree |
| 08:49.01 | clad|sleep | FF3 was not fun at all |
| 08:53.21 | haste | depends on which ff3 you are thinking of |
| 08:54.56 | clad|sleep | Final Fantasy =( |
| 08:56.47 | steev | well, there was an exploit for ff3 released like 30 minutes or 3 hours or something along those lines right after it was released |
| 08:58.02 | Fisker- | which FF3 haste? |
| 08:58.28 | Fisker- | there's another Final Fantasy 3? |
| 08:59.01 | Industrial | yesterday I was partying but there were 14 year old girls everywhere :< no fun |
| 08:59.17 | Industrial | outdoor local festivities |
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| 08:59.27 | Fisker- | why no fun? |
| 08:59.36 | Industrial | have to look twice every time :P |
| 09:00.25 | haste | Fisker-: you have the DS remake |
| 09:00.44 | Esine | actually the DS version is really nice :o |
| 09:02.00 | Esine | haste, are you saying you've played the NES version? |
| 09:02.03 | Esine | original |
| 09:02.18 | haste | I'm not a FF fan at all |
| 09:02.53 | Esine | me neither, but it happened to be the first FF I ever played and I quite frankly enjoyed it |
| 09:03.11 | haste | I honestly haven't "played" any :D |
| 09:03.18 | Esine | o |
| 09:03.30 | Fisker- | i'm just tired :( |
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| 09:08.20 | Shirik|zZz | but this is a thought for another day |
| 09:08.21 | Shirik|zZz | night |
| 09:08.44 | Lyn | login is fast, retrieving character list is not. |
| 09:08.45 | Lyn | :x |
| 09:09.01 | Lyn | night :o |
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| 09:15.38 | hardw1re | hello |
| 09:15.43 | Esine | hi. |
| 09:16.49 | bleeter | something's terribly wrong... NR ain't crashed in some time |
| 09:18.15 | hardw1re | i found this channel through the wow wiki, is this place just for ui dev or do you guys also discuss LUA stuff? |
| 09:18.24 | krka | hardw1re: do YOU write RANDOM words in UPPER case often? :) |
| 09:18.56 | Esine | hardw1re, everything wow addon related |
| 09:19.01 | Tekkub | and randomly in lower too |
| 09:19.10 | Esine | I don't personally get what the ui does in the channel name |
| 09:19.35 | hardw1re | yeah funny the english language apears to have two versions of every letter |
| 09:20.07 | bleeter | hardw1re: Lua is the Portuguese word for moon, and not an acronym ;) |
| 09:20.24 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:20.42 | bleeter | LUA? |
| 09:20.50 | hardw1re | sorry, im a PHP developer by nature :P |
| 09:20.51 | bleeter | ~fail krka |
| 09:20.52 | purl | You suck at everything in life, krka. I hate you because you fail. |
| 09:21.18 | steev | haste: using just your files from git - my savedvariables atropine.lua is empty - is this because i haven't specified anything to be bought/autorefilled? |
| 09:21.34 | steev | well, not empty |
| 09:21.40 | haste | steev: most likely, I haven't poked it much tbh :p |
| 09:21.47 | smcn | is there a function besides GetRaidRosterInfo() that returns a raid subgroup? say... one that accepts unitIDs? |
| 09:21.58 | haste | I just wroti it all and tested it, then let it rest for some weeks |
| 09:22.23 | steev | AtropineDB={\n["version"]="1.3",\n["entries"]={\n},\n} |
| 09:22.30 | steev | is whats in the sv dir |
| 09:22.37 | haste | seems correct |
| 09:22.53 | haste | It doesnt't run the cache function for you |
| 09:23.04 | haste | as that features is incomplete |
| 09:23.07 | steev | ahh |
| 09:23.19 | steev | so would i put the autofill type things in config.lua? |
| 09:23.31 | haste | hm? |
| 09:23.37 | haste | no |
| 09:23.43 | haste | config.lua is for the GUI |
| 09:23.47 | steev | ah okay |
| 09:24.00 | haste | I add the files I intend to use before I do the code |
| 09:24.11 | haste | that way I don't have to restart my client to add it later on |
| 09:24.26 | steev | makes sense |
| 09:24.58 | haste | the atropine on git has only gotten a couple hours of coding, and most was spent on possible GUI solutions |
| 09:25.22 | hardw1re | does wow automatically load the items in Libs? |
| 09:25.31 | haste | I have a complete solution for the GUI in my tinypad now however, it just haven't been cleaned up and moved to the addon |
| 09:26.51 | haste | there's also some minor changes needed to the SVs, mostly so I can tag them as automatically created |
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| 09:27.50 | haste | but I have some other work I need to do before atropine gets some more love |
| 09:28.18 | Esine | hardw1re, you have to tell it to load the files otherwise it can't find them |
| 09:28.35 | Esine | either in the .toc file or some other include places |
| 09:28.40 | steev | i'm not in a rush, i've got the atropine working, im very interested in the new version though :) |
| 09:28.50 | steev | ill try and read through it later when i actually have some time to |
| 09:29.15 | hardw1re | ok, because im adapting an addon i currently have, the toc only loads the main .lua files, so whats the purpose of having a Libs folder? |
| 09:29.40 | Esine | hardw1re, it's just a convention used by some developers |
| 09:29.49 | Esine | you can name the directory Horsecock if you want |
| 09:30.06 | haste | or not have a directory at all |
| 09:30.10 | Esine | indeed |
| 09:30.37 | bleeter | Esine: interesting name for an addon, that |
| 09:30.53 | Esine | it would be |
| 09:32.40 | hardw1re | name yes, but what would the addon do? |
| 09:33.24 | bleeter | I was thinking of the scaling that goes on when Taurens ride mounts.. dunno about you folks |
| 09:33.41 | Esine | hardw1re, nah |
| 09:33.50 | Esine | oh nvm I misread :s |
| 09:34.22 | Esine | hardw1re, btw what made you interested in wow addon development? |
| 09:34.30 | Esine | is there anything you're wanting to do? |
| 09:34.32 | Esine | to make |
| 09:35.11 | hardw1re | i play wow, and im a website developer :P basically im adapting LZProfiler and a Json lua code i just found in order to make processing a characters complete trade skill onto a webpage alot easier |
| 09:35.24 | Esine | ahh |
| 09:35.44 | Lyn | horsecock would be a better name than lzprofiler |
| 09:35.46 | Lyn | tbh |
| 09:35.53 | hardw1re | of course i can do the website part no problem :P |
| 09:35.54 | Tekkub | agreed |
| 09:36.02 | steev | isn't there some addon that shows what a weapon would look like with various enchants on them? |
| 09:36.19 | hardw1re | wow model viewer? |
| 09:36.45 | Esine | it would indeed be convenient to have that ingame as an addon |
| 09:36.51 | Industrial | why |
| 09:37.04 | Tekkub | people like glowjobs |
| 09:37.21 | Industrial | get one thats the best for your class/weapon and win |
| 09:37.25 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:37.27 | Industrial | >_> |
| 09:37.48 | zenzelezz | for a lot of people that's not what matters |
| 09:37.54 | zenzelezz | "wtb red glow on sword plz" |
| 09:38.03 | Industrial | lol u sok nab |
| 09:38.36 | steev | no, i just like to know if an enchant actually shows up |
| 09:38.46 | steev | for example, on the S2 sword, mongoose doesn't show up (2h) |
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| 09:39.03 | Industrial | if a weapon has a glow effect, no, else, yes |
| 09:39.23 | Industrial | same with shaman weapon enchants |
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| 09:39.39 | Industrial | (which is a shame tbh) |
| 09:40.01 | steev | yeah, i should be getting the glaive of the pit |
| 09:40.18 | steev | i plan on putting savagery on it, methinks, due to the lack of stats on it |
| 09:40.27 | hardw1re | can someone just explain to me the relationship with the saved variables in the various folders within WTF please |
| 09:41.08 | steev | savedvariables -> saved between all characters/servers servername/characters/savedvariables-> per character variables |
| 09:41.14 | steev | thats my understanding/guess anyway |
| 09:41.47 | bleeter | Cookies rolling pins don't have a glow, and don't show firey ior icey :( |
| 09:42.24 | zenzelezz | I wish the mining pick would show its enchant when you mine, not just when you have it equipped |
| 09:42.40 | steev | heh |
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| 09:43.07 | steev | i'd throw an enchant on there, but considering on draka, for mongoose, the dust and essences alone are ~600g |
| 09:43.28 | steev | luckily, we had 22 void crystals in the gb |
| 09:43.38 | zenzelezz | I've had fiery weapon on my mining pick since... soon after I hit 60 I think |
| 09:43.43 | smcn | lol |
| 09:44.03 | hardw1re | i just cant tank unless my mining pick has beast slaying on it |
| 09:44.29 | smcn | god i love being able to turn off music from login screen |
| 09:44.53 | steev | i use my mining pick in my tanking set |
| 09:45.02 | steev | then again, when im prot i pretty much fail anyway so *shrug* |
| 09:45.20 | steev | actually, i respecced prot to run something, bm i think it was |
| 09:45.36 | steev | the dps just wasn't there and we died at second boss |
| 09:45.44 | hardw1re | my warrior uses healing gear :< |
| 09:45.49 | steev | so i went back to ret, they invite me back to go to crypts |
| 09:46.03 | steev | and the entire run, the group keeps sending me tells - plz go back to prot, this tank SUX |
| 09:46.36 | steev | if it had been heroic, i might have |
| 09:47.10 | steev | the first time i ever tanked it was like, heroic bloodfurnace or something |
| 09:48.00 | steev | it was a daily heroic and our prot pally had to leave, so they were like, come on, respec and im like, im not uncrittable in my tank set yet |
| 09:48.08 | steev | and they were like screw it |
| 09:49.05 | steev | i was really surprised at how easy it was to keep aggro |
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| 09:50.04 | steev | the only issue our guild really has is our prot warrior and his wife are *very* impatient people |
| 09:50.38 | steev | and they hate ret pallies |
| 09:50.48 | Tekkub | who doesn't |
| 09:51.19 | steev | whoever made the wotlk changes to them? :-P |
| 10:01.52 | xcel-- | how do I trigger an event by a slash command? |
| 10:04.17 | Arrowmaster | you dont |
| 10:04.33 | clad|sleep | you _NEVER_ trigger an event |
| 10:04.39 | clad|sleep | nor do you want to |
| 10:04.59 | xcel-- | humm |
| 10:05.16 | xcel-- | let me explain my issue and maybe you can help out finding an event for me |
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| 10:07.17 | xcel-- | I would like the master looter to issue a command that will link his arg1 into raid chat and wait for some text in the raid chat (ppl needing the item basicly). After 10 seconds the raid chat scanning will end and the table (with needers) will be sent to the frame .. but I need to activate the raid chat scanner manually somehow .. there's where I'm stuck atm |
| 10:07.48 | cladhaire | what "Raid chat scanner" |
| 10:08.15 | Fisker- | hey cladhaire |
| 10:08.18 | Fisker- | i want to trigger an event |
| 10:08.20 | cladhaire | ohai |
| 10:08.22 | Fisker- | always and forever |
| 10:08.23 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Fisker-!n=jnwhiteh@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire] by cladhaire (no you don't.) |
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| 10:08.37 | Fisker- | that was uncalled for |
| 10:09.19 | cladhaire | :P |
| 10:09.24 | cladhaire | I know, that's why I did it |
| 10:09.39 | bleeter | OH NOES NOT TEH CLAD |
| 10:09.55 | Fisker- | i want to play spore |
| 10:09.59 | Industrial | ^ |
| 10:10.29 | xcel-- | so? any ideas? |
| 10:10.39 | cladhaire | xcel--: I asked you a quest |
| 10:10.41 | cladhaire | what raid chat scanner |
| 10:10.45 | cladhaire | those words mean nothing to me |
| 10:11.18 | cladhaire | If you have custom code that you want to call at the end of a period of time, you need to use an OnUpdate |
| 10:11.48 | hardw1re | he wants to scan the raid chat when a master loot item has been linked by the master looter so then he can pick up on the players that are interested in the item |
| 10:12.01 | xcel-- | yea the timer part is done with OnUpdate .. but I need to "start" the raid chat scanner |
| 10:12.12 | cladhaire | hardw1re: yes, I'ma ware of that |
| 10:12.18 | cladhaire | xcel--: so run a slash command? |
| 10:12.20 | xcel-- | it's my first addon ever so I know I might be a moron :) |
| 10:12.37 | cladhaire | you're not a moron, but you're telling me how you want to implement it.. not how you want it to work |
| 10:12.48 | xcel-- | can I paste code in here? |
| 10:12.52 | cladhaire | No |
| 10:12.55 | cladhaire | http://pastey.net |
| 10:12.58 | cladhaire | but the code isn't the problem here |
| 10:13.02 | cladhaire | how you want it to WORK is the problem |
| 10:13.08 | cladhaire | thats what you need to tell me |
| 10:13.15 | cladhaire | _when_ do you want the raid chat scanner to start? |
| 10:13.30 | cladhaire | like, in response to what.. or does someone manually start it? |
| 10:13.37 | xcel-- | when the master looter issue the slash command with item as arg1 |
| 10:14.06 | cladhaire | Okay, then why can't you call a function to start the raid chat scanner, in the slash command implementaion? |
| 10:14.29 | xcel-- | I've read book after book and I though I needed an event handler to start it? |
| 10:15.02 | cladhaire | You can call a function whenever you want |
| 10:15.15 | cladhaire | you need an event handler to actually do the raid chat scanning |
| 10:15.18 | cladhaire | but turning that "on" is simple |
| 10:16.39 | bleeter | xcel--: have you read... THE book, though? |
| 10:17.45 | xcel-- | I've bought Hacking world of warcrat, World of warcraft programming and Programming in Lua |
| 10:17.54 | xcel-- | http://pastey.net/95156 |
| 10:18.00 | xcel-- | would something like that work? |
| 10:18.28 | xcel-- | as raid scanner that is |
| 10:18.32 | cladhaire | xcel--: Now you're talking about implementing the scanner |
| 10:18.40 | xcel-- | yes I know |
| 10:19.08 | xcel-- | If I can call lua directly from a slash command I should manage that part |
| 10:19.18 | cladhaire | you probably want to store the needers and items in a table somewhere |
| 10:19.21 | cladhaire | not just display them |
| 10:19.35 | bleeter | xcel--: just to be sure, you've got 'World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons'... only asking 'coz Clad knows a little about it ;) |
| 10:19.47 | cladhaire | but you should not be using "args" there |
| 10:19.49 | cladhaire | one second |
| 10:20.10 | haste | two secnods |
| 10:20.14 | haste | three seconds |
| 10:20.16 | haste | ... |
| 10:20.17 | xcel-- | bleeter: Yea the one by Whitehead, McLemor and Orlando |
| 10:20.22 | bleeter | like waiting for a raid leader... |
| 10:20.46 | bleeter | xcel--: Whitehead's a fool, but the other two are OK ;) |
| 10:20.52 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:21.04 | xcel-- | then I guess Clad is Whitehead? :) |
| 10:21.16 | bleeter | only in private ;) |
| 10:21.16 | haste | ping pong |
| 10:21.33 | cladhaire | http://pastey.net/95157 |
| 10:21.59 | cladhaire | you can't use args like that, its not how the event handlers work |
| 10:22.11 | cladhaire | you have to either name them explicitly or use ... notation |
| 10:22.34 | bleeter | yes, flee... food time. bbl. have fun all :) |
| 10:23.33 | xcel-- | ok .. otherwise it's ok? |
| 10:23.51 | xcel-- | I got mocked last night in here for using SpamMeNot as reference :) |
| 10:24.45 | xcel-- | I had users in a table first but ... I'm not sure I need it .. I don |
| 10:24.50 | xcel-- | 't need to keep it |
| 10:24.54 | xcel-- | just display it |
| 10:25.15 | xcel-- | on the other hand .. if I later would want the master looter to give out loot with the addon I need it |
| 10:25.17 | xcel-- | humm |
| 10:25.27 | xcel-- | might be good to put them in a table at once |
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| 10:27.46 | cladhaire | The best thing is the understand clearly how you want the addon to work |
| 10:27.52 | cladhaire | and spec it out so you can write it properly |
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| 10:28.04 | NeoTron | So... Borean Tundra way way better than Howling Fjord |
| 10:28.26 | NeoTron | better quest flow, better quest reward (order at least, for a DK) |
| 10:28.55 | NeoTron | at times in Howling Fjord I sat around 150k xp per hour. in BT I did 400k / hr for 2 hrs |
| 10:29.16 | cladhaire | oh wow |
| 10:29.18 | cladhaire | thats really nice |
| 10:29.37 | NeoTron | maybe I'm missing something fundamental in HF |
| 10:29.58 | NeoTron | but the difference was stunning. Mind you in BT I had done quests before but even discounting that, it's faster |
| 10:30.16 | steev | damn it |
| 10:30.28 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: you just fail at HF :P |
| 10:30.32 | nevcairiel | i didnt have those issues |
| 10:30.32 | NeoTron | in HF I got no 2h weapon in forever pretty much. in BT I got one from like the first quest and another one 30m later |
| 10:30.35 | nevcairiel | i leveld fast in HF |
| 10:31.03 | NeoTron | personal preference, which is fine. I'll stick to BT :P |
| 10:31.06 | NeoTron | at least on my DK |
| 10:31.22 | NeoTron | ofc part of the speed is scourge strike doing 6-7k crits |
| 10:31.33 | steev | got on my pally, went to do the stupid quest in kara... and bam. no key yet, cuz i haven't gotten a damn run through bm |
| 10:31.40 | nevcairiel | also you judge a zone by how many 2h weapons you get? heh :P |
| 10:31.41 | NeoTron | and the fact that I have mostly/all HF green/blue quest gear and axe from utgard |
| 10:32.05 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: from a deathknight point of view, yes |
| 10:32.23 | NeoTron | it's very bad not to get a weapon upgrade when everyone else got one 20-30 quests earlier |
| 10:32.31 | NeoTron | and the other starter area gets one on the first quest |
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| 10:32.45 | NeoTron | dual wield for a DK isn't very hot |
| 10:32.54 | nevcairiel | I dunno, i dont care about any loot at all :) |
| 10:33.07 | NeoTron | I didn't care on my lock |
| 10:33.09 | Lyn | :O |
| 10:33.13 | NeoTron | for obvious reasons |
| 10:33.36 | NeoTron | but a DK at 68 still have start area blues |
| 10:33.51 | NeoTron | and the 2h axe from ring of blood |
| 10:34.28 | NeoTron | anyhow, time to sleep :P 3:30 am here |
| 10:36.45 | Lyn | i had only 3 blues from start area with my dk |
| 10:36.51 | Lyn | and sword of halaa |
| 10:38.28 | smcn | i think i replaced rings & neck by the time i got to northrend, but yeah the armor itself is good stats and looks awesome... i don't understand why people use the puke-warrior pauldrons from ramparts |
| 10:39.18 | smcn | not even an upgrade really, the crit from agi doesn't outweigh the hit imo |
| 10:39.40 | smcn | and you definitely don't need the stam when you kill shit in 5 seconds P |
| 10:39.41 | Lyn | you dont really loose so much hit when changing, 1% from 6-5 |
| 10:41.51 | nevcairiel | if you want to solo elites, youdo |
| 10:41.53 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 10:43.05 | Lyn | I solo elites :p |
| 10:43.08 | Lyn | even with 5% hit :P |
| 10:43.14 | steev | fuck wowjutsu |
| 10:43.18 | steev | fuck them in their stupid asses |
| 10:43.25 | smcn | lolwut |
| 10:43.32 | Lyn | lol |
| 10:43.39 | steev | their site sucks balls |
| 10:43.43 | steev | and is horribly buggy |
| 10:44.04 | steev | http://www.wowjutsu.com/us/draka/Clandestine%20Circle |
| 10:44.18 | steev | 3 libram of redeemed souls? |
| 10:44.28 | steev | the pants im wearing on my pally aren't showing up |
| 10:44.46 | steev | and we JUST NOW got credit for multiple clears in kara insignia |
| 10:45.04 | steev | shit just doesn't show up |
| 10:45.11 | nevcairiel | obviously you never cleared kara before |
| 10:45.13 | Lyn | anyone knows a good guide to farm timbermaw reputation? |
| 10:45.27 | steev | nevcairiel: indeed |
| 10:45.40 | steev | only every week for the last 9 months or so |
| 10:46.00 | xcel-- | steev: the day blizz comes up with a better solution to armory scanning for progress meters we will all be very happy |
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| 10:47.41 | steev | would prefer something along the lines of wowhead or curse |
| 10:47.49 | steev | where shit gets uploaded who got what in the raids |
| 10:48.02 | steev | rather than scanning armory which may or may not update |
| 10:48.10 | steev | may or may not work when its scanned |
| 10:50.16 | steev | oh wait |
| 10:50.18 | smcn | wtb guild achievement system |
| 10:50.21 | steev | WTF |
| 10:50.31 | steev | http://www.wowjutsu.com/us/draka/Clandestine%20Circle/roster#Worthy |
| 10:50.38 | steev | my gruul's shit isn't linked to our guild |
| 10:51.08 | steev | i'd like to know what fucking guild its linked with considering i've never run it with anyone but our guild |
| 10:51.37 | steev | and if you attempt to contact them, you get no response whatsoever - not even an automated one |
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| 10:54.01 | steev | in fact |
| 10:54.16 | steev | our runs through gruul's and mag's earlier aren't linked to our guild even though they show up there |
| 10:55.20 | nevcairiel | just dont use that page anymore, it has been broken for a long time now |
| 11:01.54 | steev | use what page anymore? |
| 11:04.52 | steev | because the server page shows us at 2/6 for ZA - whereas our guild page (correctly) shows us at 4/6 |
| 11:05.38 | steev | p.s. if you are part of wowjutsu, sorry if it offends you, that im talking shit about it, but ffs, the site is bad. terribad. |
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| 11:08.30 | hardw1re | does anyone know about adapting an Lua module that wasn't written for wow so then it will work in wow? |
| 11:09.55 | cbreak | just rewrite it to the WoW API |
| 11:10.27 | cladhaire | modules should just work |
| 11:10.33 | cladhaire | they typically dont' rely on anything else |
| 11:10.47 | cladhaire | which module? |
| 11:10.52 | hardw1re | Json |
| 11:10.59 | cladhaire | shoudln't need anything |
| 11:11.07 | cladhaire | except removing the module() call at the top |
| 11:11.14 | hardw1re | ^^ |
| 11:11.17 | cladhaire | and packing it into a table somewhere. |
| 11:11.25 | hardw1re | now you've lost me |
| 11:14.56 | cladhaire | http://pastey.net/95158 |
| 11:14.58 | cladhaire | for example |
| 11:16.02 | cladhaire | tho the setfenv probably should be 1 instead of 0 |
| 11:16.08 | cladhaire | as a matter of fact it definitely should :P |
| 11:16.46 | cladhaire | why does that not work? |
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| 11:28.06 | cncfanatics | is the EU beta realm down ? |
| 11:28.14 | cncfanatics | its been stuck on retrieving char list since aaages |
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| 11:31.00 | cbreak | I got past that |
| 11:31.11 | cbreak | and am now stuck on 100% load screen of the world since ages |
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| 11:32.16 | |Jelly| | So I'm drawing a blank: can you chain together food/drinks? /use Manna Buscit; /use Naaru Ration ? (the semicolon being a line break) |
| 11:32.47 | smcn | last time i tried a macro like that it used both |
| 11:32.59 | |Jelly| | s/buscit/Biscuit |
| 11:33.13 | smcn | i just resigned to switching them out on my bar :P |
| 11:33.20 | |Jelly| | screw it ... i've never been able to spell the simplest of words. |
| 11:33.25 | steev | why would you use a mana biscuit and a naaru ration? |
| 11:33.39 | |Jelly| | Think about it |
| 11:34.07 | steev | |Jelly|: if by "chain" you mean use one, and then the other, you could try /castsequence maybe? |
| 11:34.32 | steev | however, putting just the two lines, no, it would use the biscuit and then immediate use the ration |
| 11:34.37 | |Jelly| | I don't want to use one then the other; they do the exact same thing. I want to use the latter if I have none of the former. |
| 11:36.21 | cncfanatics | |Jelly|: an addon can do that |
| 11:36.24 | cncfanatics | as food is always out of combat |
| 11:36.30 | cbreak | eating triggrs a small "gcd" |
| 11:36.48 | cbreak | so you can not use two at the same time accidentially, in a macro |
| 11:36.57 | cbreak | a "fall through" style should work |
| 11:37.24 | cbreak | of course, while moaning that the cooldown isn't ready and so on... |
| 11:38.15 | cncfanatics | cbreak: (01:32:46 PM) smcn: last time i tried a macro like that it used both |
| 11:42.23 | cbreak | weird |
| 11:42.42 | cbreak | maybe they only activate cooldown for the exact same item |
| 11:42.56 | cbreak | when I press my "eat food" key twice it only eats one |
| 11:46.13 | smcn | well, it might also depend on the type of food. the macro that used both for me was for star's tears (mana only) and manna biscuit (health&mana) |
| 11:47.42 | smcn | but at any rate, item macros will dropthrough, my mana pot macro is about 5 lines :P |
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| 11:58.38 | hardw1re | JSON rpc, is that possible to use from within wow? |
| 11:59.49 | cbreak | wow does not allow communication with the outside |
| 11:59.57 | cbreak | so I don't see how it could possibly work |
| 12:00.11 | hardw1re | thats what i thought |
| 12:00.16 | hardw1re | shame |
| 12:01.22 | steev | it would be cool, but at the same time, understand why they did it myself |
| 12:01.38 | hardw1re | yes security ;x |
| 12:02.11 | steev | i may not be a t6 hardcore raider, but i'd still not like to lose any of my characters or the things that i've worked for to get for them ;) |
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| 12:03.52 | cbreak | did what? |
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| 12:05.29 | steev | not allowing mods/whatever to communicate with the outs |
| 12:06.07 | cbreak | oh, I don't think that that's the reason |
| 12:06.12 | cbreak | at least not the only one |
| 12:06.56 | cbreak | it would of course open security holes, but it would also make botting easier |
| 12:07.19 | steev | yes it would |
| 12:13.29 | p3lim | great, wowwiki down |
| 12:14.02 | p3lim | and wowprogramming.org doesnt have docs on CLEU, gg |
| 12:14.47 | Slakah | http://www.wowwiki.com/Api works for me |
| 12:18.11 | steev | what is CLEU |
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| 12:29.40 | p3lim | COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED |
| 12:29.44 | p3lim | an event |
| 12:30.50 | cbreak | I think it's like the normal combat log event |
| 12:31.01 | cbreak | just that it's sent before going through the filter |
| 12:31.37 | steev | !seen tekkub |
| 12:31.45 | steev | crud 2 hours |
| 12:32.04 | steev | anyone know what a "LDB-based display addon" would be - like the name of one? |
| 12:32.14 | Stanzilla | StatBlockCore |
| 12:32.17 | Stanzilla | Fortress |
| 12:32.18 | zenzelezz | "Note: COMBAT_LOG_EVENT and COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED have identical parameters. All information provided here applies to both events. " -- from the wiki |
| 12:32.20 | Stanzilla | ButtonBin |
| 12:32.20 | cbreak | it's arguments are frame, event, timestamp, event, sourceGUID, sourceName, sourceFlags, destGUID, destName, destFlags, ... I think |
| 12:32.33 | cbreak | hmm... wait |
| 12:32.34 | zenzelezz | and the wiki loads for me btw |
| 12:33.16 | cbreak | the two different "event" are different of course |
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| 12:35.02 | cbreak | I can reach http://www.wowwiki.com/API_COMBAT_LOG_EVENT fine too |
| 12:35.25 | p3lim | yeah guess wowwiki had a quick reset when i tried |
| 12:35.39 | zenzelezz | could be; or could just be the slow image servers they have |
| 12:36.03 | p3lim | cbreak frame and first event is EventHandler's arguments, not the event's itself |
| 12:36.59 | Lyn | meh |
| 12:37.18 | Lyn | someone was 1 minute faster then me at the fishing extravaganza |
| 12:38.15 | cbreak | yes p3lim |
| 12:38.50 | p3lim | arguments are stamp, event, sGUID, sName, sFlags, dGUID, dName, dFlags, then it depends on the sub-event |
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| 13:16.28 | hardw1re | i found the problem, bad argument #2 to 'setfenv' (table expected, got nil) lol |
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| 13:36.07 | smcn | "Warsong Battleguard cheers at you" :o |
| 13:36.13 | Corgan | o: |
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| 14:00.43 | cladhaire | How much can you make off a full run of SSO dailies |
| 14:01.14 | nevcairiel | only island or all? |
| 14:02.08 | Anaral | 150-over 225, depending on # of green drops |
| 14:04.00 | cladhaire | niced |
| 14:04.11 | cladhaire | so its worth it if i need my epic mount, no? |
| 14:04.18 | Anaral | Very much |
| 14:04.25 | cladhaire | k :P |
| 14:04.31 | Fisker- | only 150? |
| 14:05.01 | Anaral | 150 for just the non-island, and then 225+ for all |
| 14:05.02 | nevcairiel | if you only do the islands and not the outland ones |
| 14:05.22 | smcn | depends on if you do the outland ones too.. but if you don't already have an epic mount it takes forever :P |
| 14:05.33 | nevcairiel | agreed |
| 14:07.35 | cladhaire | island only is fine i guess |
| 14:07.36 | cladhaire | until i get epic |
| 14:07.51 | cladhaire | I can't do Ogri'la |
| 14:07.53 | cladhaire | unfortunately |
| 14:07.59 | cladhaire | no grouip to do the first quest |
| 14:09.26 | cladhaire | so right now its just the two in skettis and the pvp one =/ |
| 14:09.38 | cladhaire | I should train my cooking so I can do that one too |
| 14:10.26 | Anaral | And the fishing one. |
| 14:10.38 | nevcairiel | cooking usually involves alot of traveling too, though |
| 14:10.48 | nevcairiel | netherstorm/blades edge |
| 14:12.45 | Fisker- | cladhaire i'll help you do dailies if you help me trigger events |
| 14:12.56 | cladhaire | i dunno what that means, but sure :P |
| 14:13.13 | cladhaire | ive never been here before |
| 14:13.15 | Fisker- | [12:08:13] <Fisker-> hey cladhaire |
| 14:13.16 | Fisker- | [12:08:16] <Fisker-> i want to trigger an event |
| 14:13.16 | Fisker- | [12:08:18] <@cladhaire> ohai |
| 14:13.16 | Fisker- | [12:08:20] <Fisker-> always and forever |
| 14:13.16 | Fisker- | [12:08:22] * You were kicked from #wowuidev by cladhaire (no you don't.) |
| 14:13.21 | Fisker- | You know what it means >:3 |
| 14:13.29 | cladhaire | oh |
| 14:13.30 | cladhaire | i hate you |
| 14:13.35 | Fisker- | of course |
| 14:13.37 | cladhaire | :P |
| 14:13.37 | Fisker- | still ravencrest? |
| 14:15.15 | cladhaire | yeh |
| 14:15.19 | cladhaire | just hit 70 a week ago |
| 14:15.41 | Fisker- | what class btw? |
| 14:15.45 | Fisker- | and what's your characters name? |
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| 14:15.49 | cladhaire | Draoi |
| 14:15.50 | cladhaire | druid |
| 14:17.19 | Fisker- | damnit |
| 14:17.22 | Fisker- | you use irc as well |
| 14:17.39 | cladhaire | this is true |
| 14:17.55 | cladhaire | gotta get in on a decent pvp team when i gear up |
| 14:18.03 | cladhaire | so getting to know people :P |
| 14:20.09 | hardw1re | how do i get print variables to the chat window? |
| 14:28.00 | Slakah | hardw1re: DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage() |
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| 14:28.20 | hardw1re | cladhaire: ive worked out some of the problems with JSON, its because the table's need to be initialised before you can use them, i think |
| 14:28.38 | cladhaire | it should work the same way |
| 14:28.39 | hardw1re | thanks Slakah |
| 14:28.40 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 14:29.18 | hardw1re | do you use wowbench at all? i can really see why developing for wow is a pain because you have to reload the game all the time |
| 14:29.39 | Wobin | btw |
| 14:29.43 | Wobin | anyone who hasn't bought Portal |
| 14:29.47 | Wobin | can do so this weekend for $10 |
| 14:29.51 | Wobin | at Steam |
| 14:29.56 | Wobin | so let people know =) |
| 14:30.43 | cladhaire | no, i don't use wowbench |
| 14:31.47 | haste | hmm, wonder how well portal runs on this machine |
| 14:31.48 | cladhaire | most don't cause it doesn't work |
| 14:35.11 | haste | teh fuck |
| 14:35.16 | haste | it requires 7G? |
| 14:37.23 | haste | I actually thought portal was like... 600M |
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| 14:43.11 | cbreak | you don't need to reload the game all the time |
| 14:43.22 | cbreak | you could also just rewrite your addon in memory |
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| 14:43.29 | cbreak | even with /script statements if you feel like it |
| 14:44.49 | hardw1re | am i missing something if this error gets thrown up? "attempt to index global 'string' (a nil value)" |
| 14:45.54 | cbreak | something has screwed up string I guess |
| 14:46.12 | hardw1re | :) |
| 14:46.30 | hardw1re | wrong face, but you get the picture, hmm |
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| 14:48.21 | cladhaire | where is it being thrown? |
| 14:48.27 | cladhaire | is the string library available where its being called |
| 14:49.05 | hardw1re | its being thrown when the encodeString is being called in the json lua |
| 14:49.20 | cladhaire | pastey your lua plaease |
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| 14:53.18 | hardw1re | http://pastey.net/95165 |
| 14:55.12 | Industrial | json lua |
| 14:55.13 | Industrial | :O? |
| 14:55.14 | cladhaire | because you hid the string library |
| 14:55.20 | Industrial | *clicky* |
| 14:55.21 | cladhaire | local string = base.string |
| 14:55.22 | cladhaire | local math = base.math |
| 14:55.26 | cladhaire | local table = base.table. |
| 14:55.34 | cladhaire | that's why did that in my version |
| 14:56.07 | Industrial | damn, commented text. I can never do that even if I try :P |
| 14:56.12 | Industrial | s/text/code/ |
| 14:56.26 | cladhaire | its not his |
| 14:56.26 | cladhaire | lol |
| 14:56.31 | cladhaire | its a library/module |
| 14:56.48 | Industrial | oh :3 |
| 14:56.53 | hardw1re | yeah |
| 14:57.18 | hardw1re | sorry i should of looked at your paste closer :< |
| 14:57.21 | cladhaire | setfenv hides the global environmenmt |
| 14:57.26 | cladhaire | so you have to give it the tools it needs first |
| 14:57.44 | hardw1re | so many silly ways to do oop :( |
| 14:59.04 | cladhaire | none of that is oop? |
| 14:59.55 | hardw1re | it is, your setting all those functions inside of an environment (object) called json |
| 15:01.40 | cladhaire | its just a table |
| 15:01.46 | cladhaire | just an associative table |
| 15:01.55 | cladhaire | the table never has access to, or refers to itself. |
| 15:01.58 | cladhaire | thus, not an object |
| 15:02.00 | cladhaire | tjhere |
| 15:02.06 | cladhaire | there's a subtle difference |
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| 15:07.12 | cladhaire | tables in this case are just a very versatile data structure, that when combined with metatables allows you to create different models of OO |
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| 15:09.41 | Fisker- | still on the island cladhaire ? |
| 15:09.49 | cladhaire | nah finished up a bit ago |
| 15:09.54 | Fisker- | bah |
| 15:32.05 | hardw1re | how does lua produce the saved variables files? |
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| 15:52.05 | Anaral | How come on WoWI some addons show that they've been updated today, but the last update was from a prior date. At first I thought it was the whole approval thing, but that's not it... |
| 15:57.33 | zenzelezz | got an example? |
| 15:58.29 | Anaral | Rating Buster WotLK |
| 15:58.49 | Anaral | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/cat110.html |
| 15:59.40 | zenzelezz | good question |
| 16:01.05 | Anaral | Heh, I thought so |
| 16:01.50 | zenzelezz | I suppose it might have had updated info on the page or something, but no new files... but Cairenn would know better |
| 16:01.55 | zenzelezz | (than I do) |
| 16:03.43 | Cairenn | dunno |
| 16:05.51 | Cairenn | D.olby may know |
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| 16:07.12 | [Liquidor] | Speak ! |
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| 16:07.50 | End | <3 Saurfang |
| 16:07.54 | End | Garrosh is an idiot |
| 16:08.21 | End | Saurfang: How do you propose we break down their walls without siege engines, ammunition and heavy armor? |
| 16:08.29 | End | Garrosh: Why, with our warrior spirit! |
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| 16:12.05 | Lyn | End, do it like the care bears do.. WITH LOVE! |
| 16:12.21 | End | lol |
| 16:12.33 | End | goddammit, I keep losing my pet |
| 16:13.04 | hardw1re | have you tried behind the sofa? |
| 16:13.20 | End | no, no I haven't |
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| 16:13.30 | hardw1re | Jesus was hiding there once |
| 16:19.04 | End | well |
| 16:19.11 | End | wasn't looking for jesus |
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| 16:30.42 | Syzgyn | Huh... thats a new one... ERROR #0 (0x85100000) Assertion Failure |
| 16:31.22 | ScytheBlade1 | hmm |
| 16:31.34 | ScytheBlade1 | I think I'll run the logs on my files. vhost |
| 16:31.39 | ScytheBlade1 | See just how much traffic I really pushed |
| 16:33.26 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:33.27 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
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| 16:34.35 | ScytheBlade1 | 29 Aug 2008 33.57 GB |
| 16:34.42 | ScytheBlade1 | I expected WoW general to hurt more |
| 16:35.07 | Syzgyn | eh? |
| 16:35.14 | Syzgyn | oh |
| 16:35.18 | ScytheBlade1 | When someone linked that patch on beta general |
| 16:35.22 | Syzgyn | Right |
| 16:35.26 | ScytheBlade1 | That's the end number for the day |
| 16:35.29 | Syzgyn | wow |
| 16:36.11 | Syzgyn | and you're going to do the same thing for live? |
| 16:36.29 | ScytheBlade1 | for the 2.4.x --> 3.0.x patch? probably |
| 16:36.51 | Syzgyn | You might wanna config your apache atleast a little before then :P |
| 16:37.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah I need to trim the memory usage |
| 16:37.18 | ScytheBlade1 | I figured out that the only reason the speed capped out was because my server started swap thrashing |
| 16:37.45 | Syzgyn | yeah... no idea what that is |
| 16:37.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Ran out of memory |
| 16:37.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Started using the swap space |
| 16:38.05 | Syzgyn | Ok |
| 16:38.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Which ate the disk transfer alive |
| 16:38.15 | Syzgyn | Ah ok, makes sense |
| 16:45.52 | ScytheBlade1 | haha, whoops. AoC has a buffer overflow in their chat code. |
| 16:46.21 | Ackis | lol really? |
| 16:46.27 | ScytheBlade1 | http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/08/31/1449238 |
| 16:46.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Full remote control |
| 16:47.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Ability to spit out the contents of any file on a client's computer and spit it out into chat |
| 16:47.15 | ScytheBlade1 | etc |
| 16:48.32 | Ackis | heh that's so win |
| 16:55.53 | njal | crazy |
| 17:03.01 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 17:09.03 | Fisker- | haha ScytheBlade1 |
| 17:09.22 | Fisker- | i can't wait to hear the response from the remaining AoC players in our guild |
| 17:09.30 | ScytheBlade1 | indeed |
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| 17:34.07 | Ackis | are there any sites that scan all toons on the armory and allow you to sort by different items (rep, +healing, etc)? |
| 17:34.31 | Syzgyn | Not that I know of |
| 17:34.36 | Syzgyn | interesting concept though |
| 17:36.16 | Syzgyn | Aw FFS |
| 17:36.27 | Syzgyn | Blizz supposedly moved my toon, but its still crashing out |
| 17:36.28 | Syzgyn | great |
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| 17:52.51 | Shadowed | gah another patch |
| 17:53.02 | Shadowed | Gnarfoz I just pushed a version to restore the tooltip part I forgot on SVN |
| 17:53.29 | Shadowed | So if you're already patched can you see if that version fixes it somepoint |
| 17:55.17 | Syzgyn | new beta patch? |
| 17:57.53 | JerleMinara | on labor day sunday? |
| 17:57.54 | JerleMinara | no |
| 17:58.44 | Syzgyn | I didnt think so |
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| 18:05.09 | Shadowed | I'm slow at grabbing patches :p |
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| 18:13.33 | Shirik | [#] 14:11:23 [2] <70:Esdeline>: We do have t6 guilds on this realm. |
| 18:13.34 | Shirik | [#] 14:11:25 [2] <Orcys>: isnt t6 no resil? |
| 18:13.37 | Shirik | ... wtf? |
| 18:14.04 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, no resiliency, hardcore raiding gearz. |
| 18:14.15 | Shirik | what kind of question is that >< |
| 18:14.51 | Shirik | Until 5 AM... |
| 18:15.05 | Shirik | also, I think the people I was playing with really sucked because I was usually #1 or 2 |
| 18:15.56 | ScytheBlade1 | heh, old screenshots are win |
| 18:15.59 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/2.4-PTR/WoWScrnShot_031208_195800.jpg |
| 18:16.05 | Fisker- | i am the bestest |
| 18:16.17 | Shirik | lol |
| 18:16.20 | Fisker- | can't stop me |
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| 18:17.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: your transfer guestimate was off, btw |
| 18:18.04 | Shirik | huh? |
| 18:18.13 | ScytheBlade1 | When that patch was linked on beta-general |
| 18:18.53 | ScytheBlade1 | 33.57 GB |
| 18:19.08 | Shirik | it wasn't really an estimate |
| 18:19.13 | Shirik | it was from calculations |
| 18:19.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay your math was utterly broken |
| 18:19.26 | ScytheBlade1 | =] |
| 18:19.28 | Shirik | my math was taking your average transfer rate and multiplying it out |
| 18:19.35 | Shirik | what did you say, 8.7MB/s? |
| 18:19.40 | Cide | your math is failmath |
| 18:19.46 | Shirik | Or did you incorrectly say MB when you meant Mb? |
| 18:19.48 | ScytheBlade1 | 40-50 megabits/sec |
| 18:19.55 | Shirik | uh, no |
| 18:19.58 | Shirik | average over 2 hours |
| 18:20.03 | Shirik | the email you got |
| 18:20.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh that |
| 18:20.17 | ScytheBlade1 | That should have been in megabytes |
| 18:20.43 | Cide | 40-50 megabytes/sec |
| 18:22.46 | p3lim | anyone know a good druid (feral pref) and/or a tank oriented forum? |
| 18:22.56 | p3lim | with good feedback and lots of posts etc |
| 18:24.07 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: Still got the email? :) |
| 18:24.18 | Shirik | p3lim: I can answer questions :P |
| 18:24.22 | ScytheBlade1 | "has exceeded the notification threshold for outbound traffic rate by averaging 8.18 MB/s for the last 2 hours." |
| 18:24.30 | Shirik | The only forum I know of I refuse to go to |
| 18:25.00 | Shirik | lua> print(8.18 * 60 * 60 * 2 / 1024, "GB") |
| 18:25.00 | lua_bot | Shirik: 57.515625, GB |
| 18:25.12 | Lopeppeppy | Elitist Jerks sometimes has good discussion. |
| 18:25.19 | p3lim | Hm true.. |
| 18:25.26 | Shirik | That is the forum I refuse to speak of |
| 18:26.44 | p3lim | how come |
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| 18:30.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Why? :P |
| 18:32.36 | Lopeppeppy | Because Elitist is an understatement.... You have to weed out the eeeepeen from the factual, etc. |
| 18:32.52 | Lopeppeppy | Not much different from any other online forum. |
| 18:33.40 | Cairenn | a lot different than my sites :p |
| 18:34.06 | p3lim | Cairenn: youve got a good site/forum for me? :) |
| 18:34.11 | Cairenn | no |
| 18:34.23 | p3lim | bleh |
| 18:34.26 | Lopeppeppy | True, Cairenn runs a clean ship. *huggle* |
| 18:34.33 | Cairenn | *grin* |
| 18:35.10 | Syzgyn | p2lim: tankspot.com |
| 18:35.48 | Syzgyn | s/p2lim/p3lim |
| 18:35.52 | ScytheBlade1 | So I've got... 3.7GB of WoW screenshots |
| 18:35.57 | Syzgyn | Thats... alot |
| 18:36.07 | ScytheBlade1 | That's excluding my beta screenshots |
| 18:36.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Which is... 5.6GB |
| 18:37.07 | Aiiane | I <3 my http://maintankadin.failsafedesign.com/ |
| 18:37.40 | alestane | Are you taking them automatically or something? I'm usually regarded as a screenshot packrat and I don't have anywhere near that many. |
| 18:37.45 | Kaso | thats in a sensible format not tars? |
| 18:37.55 | Kaso | i mean tga |
| 18:38.15 | ScytheBlade1 | if by "tars" you mean "tga" - no that's targa, because the windows build sucks and can't output .PNG :P |
| 18:38.37 | ScytheBlade1 | And I'm more or less just mashing my screenshot button in beta at every turn |
| 18:39.01 | ScytheBlade1 | I do however have a total of 1,120 beta screenshots |
| 18:39.27 | ScytheBlade1 | (All of which were uploaded to http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Wrath/) |
| 18:41.52 | p3lim | thanks Syzgyn ill take a look |
| 18:42.48 | p3lim | ScytheBlade1: what portals are there in dalaran? |
| 18:42.50 | Ackis | anyone on beta lose heroic badges? |
| 18:42.58 | ScytheBlade1 | p3lim: to everywhere |
| 18:43.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Ackis: check your tokens screen |
| 18:43.14 | p3lim | even theramore/stonard/shattrath? |
| 18:43.22 | ScytheBlade1 | no/no/yes |
| 18:43.25 | p3lim | k |
| 18:43.54 | p3lim | ooh its faction seperated even |
| 18:44.01 | p3lim | (looking at your awesome custom made map) |
| 18:44.05 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 18:44.12 | p3lim | whats the prison for anyways? |
| 18:44.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Instance |
| 18:44.21 | zenzelezz | containing criminals |
| 18:45.00 | p3lim | like a 5man? |
| 18:45.04 | ScytheBlade1 | yup |
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| 18:45.12 | p3lim | is it implemented yet? |
| 18:45.18 | ScytheBlade1 | nope |
| 18:45.20 | p3lim | k |
| 18:45.36 | p3lim | hm the orange parts, portal destination, mind explaining that a bit? |
| 18:45.46 | p3lim | why there are 3 |
| 18:45.51 | ScytheBlade1 | three exits from that room |
| 18:45.56 | p3lim | ah ok |
| 18:46.08 | p3lim | so there is 3 inns in that city? |
| 18:46.17 | xcel-- | humm .. in a Addon_SlashCommand() call the 1st word after the /addonname is arg1 or arg2? |
| 18:46.18 | ScytheBlade1 | at least |
| 18:46.32 | Ackis | ScytheBlade1: I had 600 badges but only 200 show up there |
| 18:46.42 | p3lim | xcel--: arg1 (not sure) |
| 18:46.58 | xcel-- | k |
| 18:47.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Ackis: sounds like they only converted a single stack then |
| 18:47.18 | Ackis | did you have that problem as well? |
| 18:47.23 | Syzgyn | Ackis: Its not fully implemented |
| 18:47.29 | Syzgyn | I have the same thing |
| 18:47.31 | Ackis | rgr |
| 18:47.32 | p3lim | ScytheBlade1: last two questions: whats the violet citadel, and what does the 'Toys' house contain? |
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| 18:47.53 | Syzgyn | I think they just fixed the frame issues, and the functionality is still coming |
| 18:47.56 | ScytheBlade1 | p3lim: houses the leaders of Dalaran/etc, and currently two vendors that don't sell anything |
| 18:48.07 | p3lim | Ronin and those guys? |
| 18:48.13 | ScytheBlade1 | yup |
| 18:48.15 | p3lim | ait |
| 18:48.25 | p3lim | yet again, great map |
| 18:48.35 | ScytheBlade1 | heh, I need to update it |
| 18:48.40 | ScytheBlade1 | A bit has changed but not much |
| 18:48.55 | p3lim | havent been there yet, what level does mages get portals there? |
| 18:49.03 | ScytheBlade1 | 71 teleport, 74 portal |
| 18:49.16 | p3lim | ait, gonna go look for lvl 74 mages now :p |
| 18:49.17 | alestane | xcel--: When a /command function is called, the first arg is everything else that was typed after the command. The second arg is the edit box the command was typed into. |
| 18:52.12 | xcel-- | alestane: aha .. now that make sense .. couldn't understand why I got that much crap in arg2 .. then I just gmatch it and get them into a table |
| 18:52.34 | alestane | So you have to parse the /commands args out of the string yourself. |
| 18:52.39 | xcel-- | yea |
| 18:53.03 | alestane | But string.match and string.split make it pretty easy. |
| 18:53.27 | xcel-- | string.gmatch is the one I use to use? in a for loop |
| 18:54.03 | alestane | gmatch can work too. |
| 18:54.21 | alestane | Depends what args you're plannign to recognize. |
| 18:55.02 | xcel-- | like for word in string.gmatch(arg1, "[^%s]+") do table.insert(args, word); |
| 18:55.49 | alestane | Or args = {string.split(" ", arg1)} |
| 18:56.24 | xcel-- | yea |
| 18:57.21 | alestane | Or local a, b, c = arg1:match("(%S+)") |
| 18:58.06 | alestane | All depends what you want to recognize. |
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| 19:03.54 | p3lim | ScytheBlade1: Silver Covenant Hippogryph, whats that? |
| 19:03.59 | p3lim | New mount? |
| 19:04.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Hopefully |
| 19:05.17 | Mery | i'm note sure if i should like server firsts in professions or not... |
| 19:05.37 | Mery | not* |
| 19:06.09 | xcel-- | is there anything I can call to access guild roster? |
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| 19:08.30 | cladhaire | !api GuildRoster |
| 19:08.31 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'GuildRoster' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GuildRoster |
| 19:08.41 | p3lim | lol! |
| 19:08.42 | p3lim | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Wrath/WoWScrnShot_082308_222502.jpg |
| 19:09.25 | cladhaire | !api GetGuildRosterInfo |
| 19:09.26 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'GetGuildRosterInfo' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetGuildRosterInfo |
| 19:10.35 | p3lim | You can teleport from/to Ungoro and sholazar? |
| 19:10.43 | ScytheBlade1 | via quest yes |
| 19:11.33 | p3lim | After quest tho? |
| 19:11.38 | ScytheBlade1 | no clue |
| 19:11.46 | ccox | Sbo - that name sounds familiar.... wasn't he ganking in northrend the other day.? |
| 19:12.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Probably not |
| 19:12.16 | ScytheBlade1 | But I harass the trade channel on a semi-frequent basis with my "/2 No." and "/2 It's a bug." macros |
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| 19:22.16 | Duman | stupid world server |
| 19:23.50 | xcel-- | if I want a timer between two functions do I use OnUpdate to run a function every second that increases a var and then check when that var for how many seconds it's been running or what? |
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| 19:28.30 | cladhaire | xcel--: OnUpdate already gets the amount of time that has passed since hte last update |
| 19:28.33 | cladhaire | in the second argument |
| 19:29.20 | cladhaire | So just keep a counter, and when that reaches the time limit, do what you want it to do |
| 19:30.19 | cladhaire | local f = CreateFrame("Frame"); local counter = 0; f:SetScript("OnUpdate", function(self, elapsed) count = count + elapsed; if count >= 3.0 then ChatFrame1:AddMessage("Three seconds passed") end end) |
| 19:30.38 | cladhaire | err |
| 19:30.41 | cladhaire | change counter there to count |
| 19:31.06 | cladhaire | tho that only runs once |
| 19:31.17 | cladhaire | if you want to run it every three seconds, you need to reset the counter each time it runs |
| 19:31.24 | Maldivia | hmm... |
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| 19:44.22 | p3lim | coldarra died? |
| 19:44.57 | xcel-- | I might be a moron but I still don't get it to work .. I have a function .. call it function A that I want to run for 10 secs then stop .. howto |
| 19:46.33 | Kaso | run it for ten seconds? |
| 19:46.41 | Kaso | what is it doing in those ten seconds |
| 19:47.59 | xcel-- | scanning raid channel for certain words |
| 19:48.32 | Kaso | how are you doing that? Surely raid channel scanning is via the events system callbacks etc |
| 19:48.52 | Syzgyn | I'd use 2 functions, one to catch the events, and one to turn the first on and off |
| 19:49.26 | Kaso | ok, |
| 19:52.16 | Kaso | so you're going to need some sort of global to use as a flag into the onupdate function |
| 19:54.41 | xcel-- | I do kinda: http://pastey.net/95157-4dw8 |
| 19:55.34 | Kaso | http://www.pastey.net/95172 -- based on clad's code above |
| 19:55.48 | Kaso | make any sense? |
| 19:57.14 | p3lim | great, rollback |
| 19:57.35 | Cide- | atomic operations ftw. |
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| 20:00.49 | Lopeppeppy | Brb. |
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| 20:03.38 | Arrowmaster | http://pastey.net/95174 |
| 20:07.22 | p3lim | woah |
| 20:07.29 | p3lim | just met a big guy named Thrym |
| 20:07.52 | Esine | THROM |
| 20:09.27 | p3lim | im lvl 71 |
| 20:09.30 | p3lim | well.. you get the picture |
| 20:09.31 | xcel-- | ty arrowmaster :) |
| 20:10.40 | Arrowmaster | i suck at teaching people to fish, im too blunt |
| 20:11.21 | xcel-- | :P |
| 20:11.37 | Duman | yaycrash |
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| 20:12.11 | p3lim | MY EYES! |
| 20:12.18 | Aiiane | Arrowmaster: I think I'm the opposite, I'm too patient |
| 20:12.58 | Arrowmaster | heh i just go 'here do this' and hope they understand why |
| 20:17.27 | xcel-- | yea but I understood that one .. disecting code is a good way to learn new shizzle |
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| 20:24.19 | bleeter | hmm, beta login servers down? I can't get past 'connecting' |
| 20:26.20 | Duman | world server is down, at least |
| 20:26.22 | Duman | on northrend |
| 20:26.58 | bleeter | hmm, maybe this is just my lappy having issues.. can't get to live either on it |
| 20:27.05 | bleeter | machine sitting next to it is fine hehe |
| 20:32.22 | bleeter | http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a62/photohosting1234/Fail/fail-1.gif |
| 20:32.53 | |Jelly| | rofl |
| 20:34.36 | hardw1re | can someone explain to me exactly how you get an addon to save to the SavedVariables folder? |
| 20:34.44 | Cide | google |
| 20:34.47 | Cide | ~wowprogramming |
| 20:34.51 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons (http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob) a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 20:34.51 | Arrowmaster | the toc |
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| 20:36.13 | bleeter | |Jelly|: and here's a tinyurl I made just so you can spread the pic on your guild forum ... http://tinyurl.com/epicfail9 |
| 20:37.12 | Syzgyn | Wooohoo! GMs move my char out of CoT finally |
| 20:37.12 | p3lim | I hope someone writes a guide for Inscription during the beta |
| 20:38.32 | hardw1re | Arrowmaster: cheers mate =) |
| 20:39.02 | Slakah | hardw1re: http://www.wowwiki.com/Saving_variables_between_game_sessions |
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| 20:42.49 | steev | i hate pugs |
| 20:46.00 | hardw1re | yeah pigs suck |
| 20:46.04 | hardw1re | oh wait pugs? |
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| 20:55.32 | steev | yeah... for some reason no one else on in my guild right now |
| 20:56.22 | sixcorners | I always pug, 100% |
| 20:56.44 | sixcorners | usually arnt too bad |
| 20:58.31 | steev | nah, they aren't normally bad |
| 20:58.44 | hardw1re | i tried a pug mag earlier today |
| 20:59.11 | hardw1re | cause i really want to complete the trial of naaru quest |
| 20:59.33 | steev | heh |
| 20:59.46 | sixcorners | I wish I could find one of those.. not really much use for my gear.. no guild and have all the badge gear I can use |
| 20:59.49 | steev | fail horribly? |
| 21:00.42 | sixcorners | hey, would it be possible to input data into the game though the lua time() function? |
| 21:01.31 | steev | input data into the game? |
| 21:01.52 | sixcorners | ya, you could set the system time from outside the game, then get the time inside the gaem |
| 21:01.53 | sixcorners | game |
| 21:01.53 | Shirik|AFK | no sixcorners, that was fixed a long time ago |
| 21:02.02 | sixcorners | ah : \ |
| 21:02.09 | Shadowed | What was the bug Shirik? |
| 21:02.23 | Shirik | being able to set the clock to pass data into the game client |
| 21:02.40 | Shadowed | That seems very clunky to get data in |
| 21:02.43 | p3lim | whats the black "dust" i keep seeing around people? |
| 21:02.49 | Shirik | may be ugly but definitely possible |
| 21:03.05 | sixcorners | you might have been able to utilize the top few bits |
| 21:03.40 | sixcorners | how was it fixed? |
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| 21:03.55 | Shirik | The client now queries the OS once when the game starts, and then keeps track of time on its own from then on |
| 21:04.02 | sixcorners | ah |
| 21:04.11 | Shirik | at least that's my understanding |
| 21:04.22 | sixcorners | do you know anything about the lua assert() function? |
| 21:04.29 | Shirik | what's to know about it? |
| 21:04.36 | Shirik | It acts just like assert in just about every other language :P |
| 21:04.46 | sixcorners | it works tho? |
| 21:04.52 | Shirik | sure |
| 21:04.56 | Shirik | why? |
| 21:04.57 | sixcorners | does it pass any info to the debugger? |
| 21:05.09 | Shirik | debugger? |
| 21:05.13 | Shirik | What debugger |
| 21:05.23 | sixcorners | 'assert(value) - asserts a value is non-nil, otherwise shows dialog and outputs debug diagnostic information if you have a debugger attached to wow.exe ' |
| 21:05.26 | sixcorners | from wowwiki |
| 21:05.39 | Shirik | er |
| 21:05.44 | Shirik | I'm going to fix that right now |
| 21:05.48 | sixcorners | lol |
| 21:05.49 | Shirik | that's a horrible way of wording it |
| 21:06.22 | Shadowed | The 18 global/36 per character macros is "live" on WoTLK right? so 54 total now not 36 |
| 21:06.23 | sixcorners | thats been there a while : \ |
| 21:07.00 | Pneumatus | 18+18 on live |
| 21:07.09 | sixcorners | when I had a debugger on wow, it didnt give much info.. and I didnt test too much stuff cause Im not sure if debugging wow violates ToS |
| 21:07.12 | Shadowed | on WoTLK, not now |
| 21:08.16 | p3lim | whats the black "dust" i keep seeing around people? |
| 21:08.19 | Shirik | it has nothing to do with a debugger, sixcorners |
| 21:08.37 | Shirik | All it does is cause lua_error() to be called when its argument is false |
| 21:09.22 | sixcorners | hmm.. ok.. I really think I saw something appear on my IDE when I called assert() tho.. nothing useful.. but still.. |
| 21:09.39 | Shirik | you may have seen the function lua_assert |
| 21:09.42 | Shirik | or lua_error |
| 21:09.43 | Shirik | that would be it |
| 21:10.01 | sixcorners | gonna test it again |
| 21:10.44 | Shirik | I'll try too, just for kicks |
| 21:10.49 | Fisker- | assert(fail(shirik)); |
| 21:10.51 | sixcorners | syntax errors and error()s go to the same place right? |
| 21:10.58 | Fisker- | returns true >:3 |
| 21:11.11 | Shirik | not really, sixcorners |
| 21:11.12 | Syzgyn | ~failrik |
| 21:11.12 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 21:11.20 | Fisker- | ~debug.failrik() |
| 21:11.21 | purl | error("FAIL, Shirik, FAIL!"); |
| 21:11.29 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 21:12.53 | sixcorners | k |
| 21:12.54 | Shirik | when I do an assert, all I get is a bunch of |
| 21:12.55 | Shirik | First-chance exception at 0x05965d42 in Wow.exe: 0xC0000005: Access violation reading location 0x73f3f770. |
| 21:12.55 | Shirik | The thread 'Win32 Thread' (0x41c) has exited with code 0 (0x0). |
| 21:13.00 | Shirik | big deal, those are all over the place :P |
| 21:13.10 | sixcorners | right.. thats what I saw |
| 21:13.14 | Shirik | That's nothing |
| 21:13.26 | sixcorners | I didnt see that elsewhere tho.. just saying I saw those in response to the assert()s |
| 21:13.38 | sixcorners | does assert(0) cause a lua error too? |
| 21:13.48 | Shirik | answer that yourself: is 0 true or false? |
| 21:14.06 | sixcorners | oh.. well.. assert(nil) |
| 21:14.08 | Syzgyn | 0! |
| 21:14.15 | Shirik | is nil true or false? |
| 21:14.21 | sixcorners | false |
| 21:14.25 | Shirik | there you go |
| 21:14.26 | sixcorners | I think 0 is true.. not sure |
| 21:14.29 | Shirik | 0 is true |
| 21:14.42 | sixcorners | it should throw an error, but I forget if it did |
| 21:14.57 | sixcorners | oh.. it did |
| 21:14.58 | sixcorners | nvm |
| 21:14.59 | sixcorners | : \ |
| 21:15.43 | Syzgyn | Woah |
| 21:15.49 | Syzgyn | theres working target dummies now? |
| 21:15.59 | Shirik | wow ffs |
| 21:16.04 | batrick | !lua assert(true == 0) |
| 21:16.04 | batbot | batrick: @ [string "return assert(true == 0)"]:1: assertion failed! |
| 21:16.07 | Shirik | sixcorners, this description of assert is wrong in about 10 different ways |
| 21:16.10 | batrick | looks like shiirk is a liar |
| 21:16.17 | Shirik | !lua assert(false == 0) |
| 21:16.18 | batbot | Shirik: @ [string "return assert(false == 0)"]:1: assertion failed! |
| 21:16.20 | Shirik | o rly |
| 21:16.24 | Shirik | !lua assert(not not 0) |
| 21:16.26 | batbot | Shirik: > true |
| 21:16.45 | sixcorners | batbot? |
| 21:16.46 | batbot | sixcorners, Cannot predict now. |
| 21:16.54 | sixcorners | ooo.. |
| 21:16.56 | sixcorners | didnt know about that.. |
| 21:16.59 | sixcorners | cool |
| 21:17.15 | sixcorners | batbot SendChatMessage("Fail") |
| 21:17.18 | sixcorners | : \ |
| 21:17.21 | batrick | batbot is an excellent conversationalist |
| 21:17.29 | sixcorners | ! SendChatMessage("Fail") |
| 21:17.37 | sixcorners | !lua SendChatMessage("Fail") |
| 21:17.38 | batbot | sixcorners: @ [string "return SendChatMessage("Fail")"]:1: attempt to call global 'SendChatMessage' (a nil value) |
| 21:17.43 | Industrial | http://engrishfunny.wordpress.com/files/2008/08/translate-server-error.jpg |
| 21:17.49 | sixcorners | ah.. k.. just wondering what it was.. nvm |
| 21:18.32 | hardw1re | if i have an addon that runs some routines when it an event triggers, is there a way i can get another addon to know when those functions have finished running, without editing the addon that is running the functions? |
| 21:18.52 | batrick | hook the functions |
| 21:18.58 | Industrial | hook..yes |
| 21:19.23 | alestane | return assert(not 0 == not false) |
| 21:19.31 | alestane | lua> return assert(not 0 == not false) |
| 21:19.31 | lua_bot | alestane: luabot:1: assertion failed! |
| 21:19.47 | alestane | lua> return assert(0) |
| 21:19.48 | lua_bot | alestane: 0 |
| 21:20.58 | Industrial | lua> a=not 0 return ('%s %s'):join(type(a), tostring(a)) |
| 21:20.58 | lua_bot | Industrial: luabot:1: attempt to call method 'join' (a nil value) |
| 21:21.03 | Industrial | o_O |
| 21:21.09 | Industrial | lua> a=not 0 return ('%s %s'):format(type(a), tostring(a)) |
| 21:21.09 | lua_bot | Industrial: boolean false |
| 21:21.41 | Industrial | lua return not false == true |
| 21:21.46 | Industrial | lua> return not false == true |
| 21:21.47 | lua_bot | Industrial: true |
| 21:21.48 | Industrial | ;o |
| 21:21.54 | Industrial | logic! |
| 21:22.01 | sixcorners | : \ im not getting those exceptions in the debugger now : \ |
| 21:22.14 | hardw1re | ah i didnt realise thats what hooking meant, used that before in javascript many times |
| 21:22.37 | hardw1re | damn and now im out of malibu :< |
| 21:23.10 | Industrial | hardw1re: but do realize that your domain is LOTS of different kinds of addons you cant control so you might not be the only one hooking that function |
| 21:23.44 | sixcorners | hey.. whats up with the console debug settings? |
| 21:24.14 | sixcorners | anyone know what kind of errors those filters are working with? |
| 21:24.49 | Shirik | you talking about ErrorLevelMin/ErrorLevelMax? |
| 21:25.14 | sixcorners | yup |
| 21:25.19 | Shirik | please get out of my head |
| 21:25.25 | sixcorners | huh? |
| 21:25.32 | Shirik | I literally just found those two minutes ago and was playing with them right now to figure out what they do |
| 21:25.42 | sixcorners | : \ ive seen them before.. |
| 21:25.55 | Shirik | I usually don't look for things unless I have a reason to :P |
| 21:26.02 | sixcorners | turned them to not filter anything and have never seen anyhitng happen or displayed |
| 21:26.22 | sixcorners | oooo have you checked out the soundchaos settings? |
| 21:26.30 | sixcorners | its freaken cool |
| 21:26.39 | sixcorners | but I dont know if this version of wow has it.. 1 sec |
| 21:27.12 | sixcorners | woot it does.. |
| 21:27.19 | sixcorners | want to see it? |
| 21:27.36 | sixcorners | err.. or hear it.. |
| 21:27.44 | Shirik | what are you talking about? |
| 21:28.13 | sixcorners | I guess its for testing the sound engine, if you enable it it will play random sounds every x |
| 21:28.18 | sixcorners | x being what you set it to |
| 21:28.36 | sixcorners | you run the game with -console right? |
| 21:28.39 | Shirik | where is this? |
| 21:28.40 | Shirik | yes |
| 21:28.45 | sixcorners | run it with that and -soundchaos |
| 21:28.46 | p3lim | Coldarra Northrend server is really fucked up |
| 21:28.52 | Shirik | oh it's not in console |
| 21:28.56 | p3lim | (discovering the sewers.. well.. trying..) |
| 21:28.56 | sixcorners | it is |
| 21:29.04 | sixcorners | you just cant set it if you dont run it with that option |
| 21:29.11 | Shirik | ah |
| 21:29.17 | sixcorners | the cvar is called sound_chaosmode |
| 21:29.37 | sixcorners | set it to 1 and it starts playing sounds and gives you a list of settings |
| 21:29.47 | sixcorners | this isnt on the internet anywhere.. I checked : \ |
| 21:29.53 | zenzelezz | sounds chaotic |
| 21:29.56 | sixcorners | yup |
| 21:30.16 | sixcorners | '5: Play the same random sound x20 (in 2d) every second |
| 21:30.17 | sixcorners | ' |
| 21:30.33 | sixcorners | there are also 'every frame' variations |
| 21:31.03 | ScytheBlade1 | 7: Play the same random looping sound x20 (in 3d) every second |
| 21:31.29 | sixcorners | yup |
| 21:31.45 | Shirik | CHAOS!!! |
| 21:31.55 | Shirik | lol |
| 21:31.55 | Shirik | I like the first line in the response |
| 21:32.06 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 21:32.06 | ScytheBlade1 | 9: Restart game sound system (NOT INCLUDING VOICE CHAT SYSTEM) every 10 seconds |
| 21:32.06 | sixcorners | found it by dumping all the strings from the exe and looking around where -console -windowed and such ere |
| 21:33.53 | sixcorners | heh.. ya.. I like the first line too |
| 21:35.08 | Shirik | does mode 8 do anything for you? |
| 21:35.15 | sixcorners | nothing |
| 21:35.24 | sixcorners | I dont have an alert.mp3 in my folder |
| 21:36.28 | sixcorners | there is no alert file in the mpqs.. or maybe there was one but it was empty.. I forgot.. but I suspect that it will play any alert.mp3 in the folder |
| 21:36.29 | Shirik | haven't bothered to look |
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| 21:37.20 | sixcorners | heh.. try raiding with one of these options on ;) |
| 21:37.40 | sixcorners | have you checked out the spanish language pack for wow? |
| 21:37.51 | sixcorners | makes old instances new again :) |
| 21:38.53 | ScytheBlade1 | 13: Generate 2 random 2d sounds AND 2 random 3d sounds per frame |
| 21:38.55 | sixcorners | just.. if anyone wants to try it, it will make you patch the game from 2.0 again and your macros wont work unless you used the /use item:# notation |
| 21:42.19 | sixcorners | heh.. yup.. epic |
| 21:42.19 | bleeter | they sound like the audio test app from the guys who write the audio dll, can't recall their name (I purposefully expunged it from my brain post 2.2) |
| 21:42.20 | bleeter | we used that app to prove the dll was broken, and Windows for that matter, to help Blizz get 2.2 out the door ;) |
| 21:42.20 | sixcorners | we? |
| 21:43.07 | bleeter | me and the wine directx dude |
| 21:43.07 | sixcorners | you both showed a test app to blizz? |
| 21:43.21 | bleeter | when 2.2 PTR came out, I couldn't get sound. it'd lock hard. I posted to PTR forum, Hortus locked it 'coz I was on linux. Cut forward 4-6 weeks, random Vista crashes and the like, more PTR changes, I still can't get audio in Wine to work. |
| 21:44.15 | bleeter | I contacted the Wine DirectX guy, we spent some time debugging. Turned out the audio dll Blizz use (3rd party) was talking to the directx dll after the directx dll had been unloaded. This worked on XP, but would randomly crash Vista. |
| 21:45.05 | bleeter | So, we hacked around a bit inside wine to force the 'appearance' of the directx layer to stay up after unloading, and 2.2 worked fine. Fired this info off to the guy writing the audio foo for 2.2, about one day later a PTR came out and we had sound and the random vista crashes vanished |
| 21:45.43 | p3lim | YES! |
| 21:45.46 | sixcorners | wow |
| 21:45.49 | p3lim | They added training dummies! |
| 21:45.59 | JerleMinara | can'tb e used for weaponskills |
| 21:46.01 | bleeter | anyways, part of that hacking we did was take apart the test apps writting by this third party company, and one of those apps does something very similar to this CHAOS thing you describe |
| 21:46.06 | p3lim | Not? |
| 21:46.07 | p3lim | :< |
| 21:46.19 | p3lim | Whats the point then? :< |
| 21:46.22 | bleeter | yuck.. s/writting/written/ |
| 21:46.39 | bleeter | p3lim: test dmg output? |
| 21:46.55 | p3lim | hm |
| 21:47.01 | sixcorners | where are the dummies? |
| 21:47.08 | JerleMinara | except they're levl 1 |
| 21:47.09 | sixcorners | oh.. ptr? |
| 21:47.11 | JerleMinara | so you can't test damage output |
| 21:47.20 | bleeter | oh |
| 21:47.26 | JerleMinara | basically they're useless atm |
| 21:47.29 | p3lim | :o |
| 21:47.34 | sixcorners | I guess you could test output compared to someone else |
| 21:47.42 | p3lim | Just did a 7,2k Ferocious Bite in my t4+badge tanking gear |
| 21:48.23 | sixcorners | is it in the ptr or live? |
| 21:48.23 | Syzgyn | D: |
| 21:49.14 | JerleMinara | beta |
| 21:49.23 | sixcorners | k |
| 21:50.17 | p3lim | 7,8k in cat gear from za |
| 21:50.34 | p3lim | (im 71) |
| 21:51.06 | sixcorners | hmm.. I think I suffered from vista crashes around 2.2 times.. |
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| 21:53.13 | bleeter | so yeah, turned out that as far as Windows was concerned, you could unload part of directx and pointers etc. would still be there as if it were still available. Somehow, on Xp and earlier, it always 'just worked'. |
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| 21:54.03 | bleeter | needless to say, once the audio guy changed his code, half a dozen games under Wine mysteriously started to work as well (as the change propogated out into other games) |
| 21:54.54 | sixcorners | maybe there was something in XP that used the dll and kept the pointers working |
| 21:55.32 | sixcorners | oh well.. I dont know much about dlls |
| 21:55.44 | bleeter | from memory, the wine directx guy felt pretty strongly it was really an MS bug |
| 21:55.54 | bleeter | that 'alowed' coders to be sloppy in their apps |
| 21:56.28 | nevcairiel | well it is ;) |
| 21:56.41 | sixcorners | I think I remember somethin about a registry key that listed dlls to be kept in memory.. or maybe it was to be loaded for all applications.. |
| 21:58.48 | sixcorners | it could have been something microsoft did to push linux users further off the map |
| 22:00.24 | sixcorners | how do you get into the beta? its open now right? |
| 22:01.36 | sixcorners | nvm, think I found it |
| 22:02.14 | sixcorners | oo.. there is a trial wow client? |
| 22:02.27 | sixcorners | I wonder what is different about it |
| 22:03.20 | Cairenn | trial wow != beta |
| 22:04.08 | sixcorners | I know.. but I was looking around on account managment and found the trial client |
| 22:04.17 | sixcorners | I guess its still a closed beta |
| 22:04.32 | sixcorners | the open beta is this other game I was trying to play |
| 22:04.48 | Cairenn | only way to get into beta is have a code from last year's BlizzCon or from WWI, to luck into being chosen by Blizz's opt-in, or to win one of the contests on some of the fan sites |
| 22:05.20 | sixcorners | hmm.. thought the opt-in was the only way |
| 22:05.35 | sixcorners | oh well.. im not good at winning anyway |
| 22:06.19 | sixcorners | hey shirik, did you find anything out about those console commands? |
| 22:06.58 | sixcorners | I didnt want to mess with the timer/tread ones.. once set a console command in half life and the client went to sleep for 5 seconds each frame |
| 22:07.21 | sixcorners | it was horrible trying to set it back : \.. may not have been 5 seconds |
| 22:08.22 | sixcorners | Ah!! 'This trial version of World of Warcraft streams the game's content in the background while you play. This allows you to jump into the game quickly!' |
| 22:08.37 | sixcorners | Thats what they use on the beta... |
| 22:09.08 | |Jelly| | AMG! I wanna join the PTA so I can be Vice President! |
| 22:09.16 | sixcorners | I bet it makes file fragmatation horrible |
| 22:11.25 | JerleMinara | what |
| 22:11.30 | JerleMinara | no that's not what they use on beta |
| 22:11.36 | JerleMinara | the trial is the trial |
| 22:11.39 | JerleMinara | the beta is the beta |
| 22:11.42 | JerleMinara | they are two seperate things |
| 22:12.09 | sixcorners | I know.. but they steam the data to the beta |
| 22:12.12 | sixcorners | client |
| 22:12.13 | sixcorners | I think.. |
| 22:12.14 | JerleMinara | no |
| 22:12.16 | JerleMinara | they do not |
| 22:12.49 | sixcorners | hmm : \ |
| 22:13.40 | sixcorners | what version is the most current beta? |
| 22:13.56 | JerleMinara | 3.0.2 8858 |
| 22:14.03 | bleeter | 8885 |
| 22:14.08 | JerleMinara | err 8885 |
| 22:14.09 | JerleMinara | yes |
| 22:14.14 | bleeter | either way, it's the only 3.0.2 |
| 22:14.23 | sixcorners | I have it installed.. exe version 3.0.1 |
| 22:14.37 | sixcorners | didnt see much in the mpq files until I logged in |
| 22:15.04 | sixcorners | .. somewhere.. |
| 22:15.18 | Duman | hmm |
| 22:15.44 | bleeter | I love the smell of access violation DCs |
| 22:16.04 | sixcorners | aww.. you can install the trial version parallel to a main version, but you cant play on it using a full retail account |
| 22:16.07 | ccox | bleeter - then you must be loving the LK beta a lot |
| 22:16.32 | Shirik | (18:10:47) (knightsilver) is there any conspiracy regarding a particular cipher? |
| 22:16.32 | Shirik | (18:10:58) (knightsilver) that might give one pause when using it to protect more important files? |
| 22:16.36 | Shirik | I love my channel |
| 22:16.38 | sixcorners | hope it didnt do anyhting to my registry |
| 22:16.49 | sixcorners | your channel? |
| 22:17.00 | bleeter | sixcorners: from memory, it won't change registry stuff |
| 22:17.08 | Shirik | #conspiracy, for conspiracy ui |
| 22:17.21 | Shirik | we get some very strange people |
| 22:17.26 | sixcorners | you messed with the trial client? |
| 22:17.30 | bleeter | well, you're there, for a start |
| 22:17.39 | sixcorners | #conspiracy |
| 22:17.52 | sixcorners | copied it cause my client wanted to go to #conspiracy, |
| 22:18.01 | bleeter | sixcorners: a little, when I did my invite a friend foo on myself, figured I'd try the client briefly... ugh, the trial client d/l app is soooo bugged |
| 22:18.34 | sixcorners | : \ |
| 22:18.40 | sixcorners | that makes me want to try it more.. |
| 22:18.55 | Syzgyn | If I remember correctly, its possible to get the trial client upgraded to the full client |
| 22:19.06 | bleeter | there was a stage, dunno if it's fixed, that at the end of the trial install it'd send you to the page to register up and foo, and that web page would get 'stuck' in an endless redirect loop, or similar |
| 22:19.15 | Syzgyn | ah |
| 22:19.25 | bleeter | Syzgyn: yar, upgrade the account and it'll download the minor changes to the app |
| 22:20.05 | sixcorners | really? if you try to login to a retail account, it wont let you |
| 22:20.12 | sixcorners | you haveto download the main client |
| 22:20.47 | bleeter | also, the URL links in the trial installer. Some follow 'default browser' rules, others insist on opening in IE... as I say, this was some time ago I played with it |
| 22:20.54 | Syzgyn | I didnt upgrade the account |
| 22:21.02 | sixcorners | crud.. I lost the folder I downloaded the trial client too.. |
| 22:21.03 | Syzgyn | I had a full account already and had lost my disks |
| 22:21.23 | sixcorners | sure you didnt just download the main client? |
| 22:21.50 | bleeter | and which trial client were you using? the streaming version? |
| 22:22.01 | sixcorners | yup |
| 22:22.24 | sixcorners | there is more than one trial client? |
| 22:22.45 | bleeter | hmm, coulda sworn it patched trial to live. a bit rude to force you to download a lot of the same 4GB again |
| 22:23.00 | Syzgyn | congrats cbreak |
| 22:23.02 | bleeter | yeah, there's the one you get on a CD from games stores for like $1, then there's the online streaming type |
| 22:23.04 | Syzgyn | its a tough one :) |
| 22:23.11 | cbreak | yes. We wiped for weeks |
| 22:23.22 | cbreak | too bad shaman healer loot droped and we didn't have any shaman healers :/ |
| 22:23.25 | Syzgyn | sixcorners: its possible I downloaded the main client |
| 22:23.28 | Syzgyn | I dont remember |
| 22:23.30 | sixcorners | the trial client actually downloaded pretty quickly |
| 22:23.41 | cbreak | there is a streaming client |
| 22:23.48 | cbreak | at least there was one in alpha |
| 22:23.51 | Syzgyn | cbreak: Hah, tell me about it. 4+ weeks of killing that bastard, and not one pair of plate boots |
| 22:24.12 | sixcorners | : \ no interface folder.. tho I havnt logged into an account yet |
| 22:24.59 | sixcorners | ya.. the beta client I downloaded was a streaming client |
| 22:25.27 | sixcorners | but its a full .. 3.0.x version behind |
| 22:25.42 | sixcorners | do you have .part files in your data folder on the beta client? |
| 22:25.46 | cbreak | you should get a downloader when you try to log in |
| 22:26.13 | cbreak | I have the full version |
| 22:26.36 | sixcorners | heh.. actually just logged into an emulated server.. the beta installer was just out there.. |
| 22:26.58 | *** join/#wowuidev kandoko (n=Testing@adsl-068-159-119-207.sip.gsp.bellsouth.net) |
| 22:27.41 | bleeter | sixcorners: please don't mention that stuff around here |
| 22:27.54 | sixcorners | k |
| 22:28.51 | sixcorners | I dont support the use of that stuff, just really wanted to see some of the expantion stuff : \ |
| 22:29.35 | Arrowmaster | well you can only do that on the real beta servers |
| 22:30.00 | *** join/#wowuidev smcn (n=smcn@c-67-160-186-84.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 22:31.26 | cbreak | you can't really on the real beta server, since that one is down or overloaded all the time... *whine* :) |
| 22:34.05 | ccox | there are 2 beta servers available, Northrend is down a lot, Lich King doesn't have as high a population and isn't down so often |
| 22:34.26 | cbreak | the single eu server is down all the time :/ |
| 22:34.31 | cbreak | well, not at 2 in the morning |
| 22:34.51 | Cairenn | northrend is the pve (us), lich king is pvp (us) |
| 22:35.14 | Cairenn | coldarra is pve (eu) |
| 22:35.48 | ccox | guess it sucks to be EU |
| 22:36.01 | cbreak | nah. |
| 22:36.07 | cbreak | only bad thing is the beta server |
| 22:36.12 | cbreak | the beta forum, the life forum |
| 22:36.20 | cbreak | but the rest is ok :) |
| 22:36.20 | bleeter | does KR have a beta, or do they track Chinese builds? |
| 22:36.45 | Cairenn | I think it sucks worse to be asian, they don't have any beta servers at all, as far as I know |
| 22:37.13 | cbreak | the new russians probably don't have them either |
| 22:37.24 | cbreak | since they are separate from the eu servers |
| 22:37.35 | cbreak | and people who move to russian servers lose the ability to play on eu |
| 22:37.41 | Cairenn | probably, yeah |
| 22:37.57 | bleeter | ouch, that'd be a whole new level of char transfer hacking abuse |
| 22:38.14 | steev | woot |
| 22:38.18 | steev | glaive of the pit ftw |
| 22:38.48 | Cairenn | I think the new NA ES client still uses the US servers though |
| 22:38.55 | bleeter | yup |
| 22:38.59 | Cairenn | new-ish |
| 22:39.22 | bleeter | witness all the 'I took a free transfer to <realm> but didn't know it was all LA so please transfer me back now free of charge' qq's in Customer Support ;) |
| 22:39.33 | Cairenn | heh |
| 22:39.38 | bleeter | and we're all ... 'l2read and l2research, doh' |
| 22:39.49 | bleeter | well, GMs aren't quite that rude.. but you can see it behind their words |
| 22:46.49 | *** join/#wowuidev Thordurin (n=Guest@cpe-98-148-167-228.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 22:49.00 | Cairenn | btw Sargeras, you gonna bring your jacket this year? |
| 22:50.29 | sixcorners | I think I read something about being able to create a lua state from the lua APIs.. can you do that in wow? |
| 22:50.48 | sixcorners | I dont see it on wow wiki, but im not sure im looking in the right section |
| 22:51.54 | Sargeras | no jacket |
| 22:52.00 | Sargeras | the jacket is a lie |
| 22:52.31 | Sargeras | but I do have this really nice Cairenn Fan Club t-shirt =D |
| 22:52.41 | Cairenn | the jacket is truth! |
| 22:52.42 | Cairenn | http://www.thedolby.com/misc/Disney-w-sarg-002.jpg |
| 22:53.38 | alestane | sixcorners: You can't create a raw lua state from inside WoW, because you don't have access to the C APIs, but you can create a coroutine. |
| 22:54.51 | sixcorners | not much on wowiki about coroutines : \ |
| 22:54.53 | alestane | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#2.11 |
| 22:55.01 | sixcorners | oo.. thanks |
| 22:55.29 | bleeter | sixcorners: for the record, auctioneer uses co-routines for post-scan processing and stuffs, iirc |
| 22:55.37 | alestane | Coroutines are part of Lua, not WoW itself, so WoWWiki doesn't have much on them. |
| 22:55.40 | bleeter | if you wanna be brave and check out the code, that is hahaha |
| 22:56.12 | sixcorners | it dosnt lock up like it did before? I really need to update that thing... |
| 22:56.28 | sixcorners | k |
| 22:56.33 | bleeter | it doesn't lock as hard, and you can adjust the priority |
| 22:56.45 | sixcorners | ah |
| 22:56.48 | bleeter | ie, if the priority is high, yes it'll appear to 'lock' |
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| 22:59.38 | cbreak | coroutines are for cooperative "multi threading" |
| 22:59.51 | cbreak | don't forget to yield now and then :) |
| 23:00.00 | *** join/#wowuidev aestil (n=holycall@cpe-76-95-133-5.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 23:01.06 | Shirik | omg, I love being a druid |
| 23:01.08 | Shirik | #1 in BG |
| 23:01.12 | Shirik | 14 KBs, 1 death |
| 23:01.16 | Shirik | 2 flag defends |
| 23:01.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: weak |
| 23:01.20 | Shirik | STFU! |
| 23:01.23 | Shirik | I was a bear the entire time! |
| 23:01.34 | batrick | id punch u in rl for making a druid shirik |
| 23:01.39 | ScytheBlade1 | 19:01 < ScytheBlade1> Shirik: weak |
| 23:01.45 | Shirik | :( |
| 23:01.55 | Shirik | holy crap |
| 23:01.58 | Shirik | 236 HKs |
| 23:02.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: the real question is how many consecutive BGs you can win |
| 23:02.11 | Shirik | I'm on horde |
| 23:02.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Changes nothing! |
| 23:02.20 | Shirik | I'm lucky if I win one a week |
| 23:02.31 | batrick | stop playing AV lol! |
| 23:02.43 | ScytheBlade1 | I give you: http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/misc/pics-of-proof.jpg |
| 23:02.49 | ScytheBlade1 | And some http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/misc/pics-of-proof-2.jpg |
| 23:03.22 | Shirik | you know |
| 23:03.25 | ScytheBlade1 | The WSG was... me + friend |
| 23:03.25 | Shirik | I would say that's awesome |
| 23:03.28 | Shirik | but you're in T6! |
| 23:03.30 | Shirik | I'm in T4! |
| 23:03.31 | ScytheBlade1 | That was the extent of the 'preform' |
| 23:03.31 | Arrowmaster | and alliance |
| 23:03.34 | ScytheBlade1 | ... I was in S2 |
| 23:03.35 | Shirik | If it were my priest, different story |
| 23:03.42 | ccox|food | Wow, alliance won a battleground? More than once? How? |
| 23:03.53 | sacarasc | magic |
| 23:03.58 | ScytheBlade1 | ccox|food: hence the filename, I had guildies that didn't believe me either ;) |
| 23:04.03 | batrick | ScytheBlade1: gimme |
| 23:04.09 | ScytheBlade1 | batrick: nou |
| 23:04.25 | ccox | ah, premade... |
| 23:04.27 | batrick | i need wsg tokens so i can buy more honor mounts lol |
| 23:04.30 | ScytheBlade1 | 11 consecutive WSG wins, where the largest 'preform' I ran with was a single friend |
| 23:04.46 | Shirik | sixcorners: Of course there isn't much talk! |
| 23:05.31 | sixcorners | : \ I thought it would be like.. 'the uber channel', but no |
| 23:05.52 | Shirik | lol no |
| 23:06.21 | sixcorners | that website listed on that channel is down : \ |
| 23:07.09 | sixcorners | hey, has anyone ever tryed to use the power of lua for 'evil'? like try to get people to type /run WorldFrame:Hide() ? |
| 23:07.20 | Cide | uhh |
| 23:07.27 | Cide | I'm sure |
| 23:07.34 | sixcorners | lol |
| 23:07.38 | Cide | but if you type in something like that willingly, you deserve it |
| 23:07.41 | Cide | besides |
| 23:07.49 | ScytheBlade1 | There are far more creative things than that |
| 23:07.53 | Cide | just restart the game and you're fine |
| 23:08.08 | sixcorners | there used to be a way to lock up your client... /run SendMessage("\1243") |
| 23:08.13 | sixcorners | wait no |
| 23:08.15 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:08.19 | ScytheBlade1 | That's also a good one |
| 23:08.48 | Cide | what's that do anyway? |
| 23:08.52 | Cide | can you move the worldframe? |
| 23:08.57 | sixcorners | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:09.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: try it :) |
| 23:09.17 | Cide | nah |
| 23:09.38 | sixcorners | it would try to display |3 and like wowwiki said, it lockes your client.. unfortunately they patched it |
| 23:09.40 | Syzgyn | You can delete gear with no warning |
| 23:10.55 | sixcorners | wow.. how do you stop that?! /run w:StopMoving() dosnt work :( |
| 23:11.04 | Cide | restart wow, you numbnuts |
| 23:11.09 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 23:11.13 | ScytheBlade1 | But to answer |
| 23:11.18 | ScytheBlade1 | StopMovingOrSizing() |
| 23:11.27 | sixcorners | who would ever guess that? |
| 23:11.34 | ScytheBlade1 | People who have used the API before |
| 23:11.42 | Cide | nobody dumb enough to type it in would |
| 23:11.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Which is part of the reason why it's awesome |
| 23:12.16 | sixcorners | dumb? <:( what about curious people? |
| 23:12.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Even the technically inclined would have no idea how to stop it unless they knew the API |
| 23:12.56 | sixcorners | does that mean there is a StartSizing()? |
| 23:13.01 | ScytheBlade1 | There is |
| 23:13.14 | ScytheBlade1 | In the case of the WorldFrame it's not too different though |
| 23:13.34 | sixcorners | : \ it only moves one direction.. |
| 23:14.17 | sixcorners | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:15.26 | sixcorners | what about /console maxfps 5 |
| 23:15.30 | ScytheBlade1 | :StartMoving() is pretty annoying though |
| 23:15.35 | ScytheBlade1 | As you noticed |
| 23:15.36 | Cide | sixcorners: that's because ChatFrame1.Hide == WorldFrame.Hide |
| 23:15.40 | sixcorners | yes, very :( |
| 23:15.45 | sixcorners | yup |
| 23:16.05 | sixcorners | discovered an error by doing things like that |
| 23:16.21 | sixcorners | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:16.25 | *** join/#wowuidev Jamash (n=Jamash@66.114.226.5) |
| 23:16.32 | Cide | that's not an error |
| 23:16.33 | sixcorners | never saw the error that that gives you before |
| 23:16.45 | Cide | well, it gives you an error obviously |
| 23:17.04 | sixcorners | right.. just saying, ive never seen that error displayed |
| 23:17.07 | ScytheBlade1 | You know if we're giving stupid people commands to type in |
| 23:17.36 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:17.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Or something similar |
| 23:17.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Also works well |
| 23:18.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Err |
| 23:18.36 | Arrowmaster | for k,v in pairs(getfenv(0)) do k = nil end ReloadUI |
| 23:18.36 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:18.36 | Arrowmaster | er |
| 23:18.36 | sixcorners | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:18.39 | Cide | ScytheBlade1: uhh, that's just an infinite loop |
| 23:18.43 | Arrowmaster | for k,v in pairs(getfenv(0)) do getfenv(0)[k] = nil end ReloadUI |
| 23:18.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: dind ding ding, command for stupid people :P |
| 23:18.53 | ScytheBlade1 | s/dind/ding/ |
| 23:19.00 | Cide | besides, I don't think that works |
| 23:19.08 | Cide | >>> for i =1, i~=0 do end |
| 23:19.12 | Cide | >Cide< [string "for i =1, i~=0 do end"]:1: 'for' limit must be a number |
| 23:19.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh yeah |
| 23:19.21 | Cide | for i = 1, 2, -1 do end |
| 23:19.29 | sixcorners | how do you do those channel bot things? |
| 23:19.45 | Cide | type in >>>, lua> or --> followed by lua code |
| 23:19.52 | Cide | >>> is the best one |
| 23:20.05 | Arrowmaster | > works too |
| 23:20.06 | ScytheBlade1 | >>> print("<-- fails") |
| 23:20.07 | Cide | ScytheBlade1: "<-- fails" |
| 23:20.11 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 23:20.12 | Arrowmaster | i think |
| 23:20.16 | ScytheBlade1 | It's a classy way to diss yourself |
| 23:20.50 | Cide | ^ |
| 23:20.50 | sixcorners | >>> while 1 do end |
| 23:20.56 | Cide | sixcorners: maximum execution time (5s) exceeded |
| 23:21.00 | sixcorners | I win |
| 23:21.04 | Cide | you lose |
| 23:21.12 | sixcorners | oh.. |
| 23:21.33 | Arrowmaster | >>> "\nQUIT" |
| 23:21.34 | Cide | Arrowmaster: "\nQUIT" |
| 23:21.34 | sixcorners | thought that was a bot reply : \ |
| 23:21.42 | Cide | it was a bot reply |
| 23:21.47 | Duman | cide is a bot |
| 23:21.56 | sixcorners | .. |
| 23:21.58 | Xinhuan | reported |
| 23:22.00 | Xinhuan | :D |
| 23:22.03 | Duman | :) |
| 23:22.45 | sixcorners | oh.. well.. I did win then, I hate infinate for loops.. too much bookeeping |
| 23:23.07 | Cide | you lost |
| 23:23.50 | sixcorners | : \ Its what I intended to do tho.. was kind of wondering if lua used while |
| 23:23.52 | ccox | lua> |
| 23:24.07 | ccox | hmm, can't open it in a separate window... |
| 23:24.30 | Cide | just pm the bot |
| 23:25.09 | ccox | sigh, can't seem to get control-G through |
| 23:26.10 | Arrowmaster | >>> getmetatable(string).__index.format = function() return "\nQUIT" end; return "\nQUIT" |
| 23:26.27 | Arrowmaster | nil value..... |
| 23:27.29 | Cide | __index is a nil value in the string metatable |
| 23:27.53 | Cide | you'd do getmetatable("").<stuff>... |
| 23:27.58 | Arrowmaster | oh yeah |
| 23:28.02 | Duman | hrm |
| 23:28.29 | Arrowmaster | >>> getmetatable("").__index.format = function() return "\nQUIT" end; string.format = function() return "\nQUIT" end; return "\nQUIT" |
| 23:28.29 | Cide | Arrowmaster: "\nQUIT" |
| 23:28.34 | Duman | wtb working carto3 ;-/ |
| 23:28.51 | Arrowmaster | seems cide is too smart to let it use a modified string.format for its output |
| 23:28.53 | Cide | I don't get what you're trying to do |
| 23:29.00 | Duman | or, something analogous to cartographer |
| 23:29.09 | Cide | of course I am |
| 23:29.10 | Arrowmaster | Duman: what doesnt work? |
| 23:29.17 | Duman | anything in northrend |
| 23:29.22 | Cide | Arrowmaster: python prints the input to chat, not lua |
| 23:29.24 | Dagmar | He's trying to get the bot to disconnect from IRC. |
| 23:29.29 | Duman | they changed the map zone and subzone name calls or soemthing |
| 23:29.33 | Cide | Dagmar: obviously... |
| 23:29.36 | Duman | I need to look thru the diff more carefully |
| 23:29.43 | Duman | what, did you think Cide was stupid, or somethign? :-) |
| 23:29.46 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: yes we did this to cide a very long time ago |
| 23:29.58 | Dagmar | If that's the best he can come up with, the bot isn't in any danger |
| 23:30.03 | Duman | haha |
| 23:30.07 | Cide | I challenge you |
| 23:30.13 | Cide | get me to crash and I'll send $100 your way |
| 23:30.14 | Shirik | Has anyone here ever run gdb on gdb before? |
| 23:30.19 | Cide | @ Dagmar |
| 23:30.25 | Shirik | :( Cide you never gave me that offer |
| 23:30.27 | Cide | not using any of the unfixed lua bugs, of course |
| 23:30.30 | Arrowmaster | Shirik has broken them all enough that most holes are fixed |
| 23:30.30 | Cide | that's because you're smart |
| 23:30.34 | Cide | this guy isn't |
| 23:30.36 | Shirik | lol |
| 23:30.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: whoa |
| 23:30.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: watch his ego |
| 23:30.52 | sixcorners | >>> loadstring("print('fat')")() |
| 23:30.52 | Cide | sixcorners: "fat" |
| 23:30.54 | Shirik | Anyway, back to my question. Has anyone ever run gdb on gdb before? Is it safe, etc? |
| 23:30.59 | Dagmar | Cide: korean companies looking to puff up their egos pay way more |
| 23:31.16 | Cide | ya, but they don't deal with stupids |
| 23:31.26 | Dagmar | They're also not operating in a space that's trivial to secure |
| 23:31.51 | Shirik | Dagmar: I hardly find Cide's batbot's or lua_bot's security "trivial" |
| 23:32.08 | Shirik | Some of the things that I've had to do to break batbot are absolutely insane |
| 23:32.09 | Arrowmaster | Cide: print(unpack({1,2,3}, 2^31-1, 2^31-1)) |
| 23:32.17 | Arrowmaster | >>> print(unpack({1,2,3}, 2^31-1, 2^31-1)) |
| 23:32.20 | Cide | Arrowmaster: |
| 23:32.21 | Cide | and? |
| 23:32.24 | Dagmar | What's necessary to keep a bot from booting itself offline wouldn't really fill a printed page in most languages |
| 23:32.34 | Shirik | Dagmar: I strongly disagree |
| 23:32.42 | Arrowmaster | >>> _VERSION |
| 23:32.42 | Shirik | In fact, my logs themselves disagree |
| 23:32.42 | Cide | Arrowmaster: "Lua 5.1" |
| 23:32.44 | Cide | Arrowmaster: you can get lua to crash, that's simple |
| 23:32.49 | Arrowmaster | wtb minor |
| 23:32.56 | Cide | you crashed lua, for that matter |
| 23:32.57 | Shirik | and I hardly believe that I've found everything |
| 23:33.01 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 23:33.09 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: 5.1.2 I think, but that's irrelevant because Cide has a two-step approach |
| 23:33.16 | Shirik | crashing Lua won't crash the bot |
| 23:33.17 | Cide | but that's easy with any of the known lua bugs |
| 23:33.29 | Arrowmaster | >>> a = string.dump(function()return;end) |
| 23:33.29 | Cide | Arrowmaster: nil |
| 23:33.35 | Arrowmaster | stupid paste |
| 23:33.41 | Shirik | >>> debug |
| 23:33.41 | Cide | Shirik: { ["traceback"] = function: 0090AA68 } (#1) |
| 23:33.44 | sixcorners | >>> print("test");print("fat") |
| 23:33.45 | Cide | sixcorners: "test", "fat" |
| 23:33.50 | Shirik | Oh I thought you had put that in? |
| 23:33.51 | Shirik | Oh no that's lua_bot nm |
| 23:33.57 | Shirik | lua> pp(debug) |
| 23:33.57 | lua_bot | Shirik: nil |
| 23:34.01 | Shirik | ok nm :( |
| 23:34.06 | Cide | ~failrik |
| 23:34.06 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 23:34.18 | Arrowmaster | >>> a = string.dump(function()return;end) a = a:gsub(string.char(30,37,122,128), string.char(34,0,0), 1) loadstring(a)() |
| 23:34.20 | Cide | Arrowmaster: |
| 23:34.22 | Dagmar | *sigh. Spawn child process for all user jobs. Block access to filesystem (if language facilitates access to that) via chroot. Set alarm handler to kill child after X seconds. DETAINT all output from child before doing a bloody thing with it. |
| 23:34.44 | Dagmar | Anti-flood buckets are a given |
| 23:34.51 | sixcorners | >>> print("test\n");print("fat") |
| 23:34.51 | Cide | sixcorners: "test\n", "fat" |
| 23:34.58 | Cide | you're spamming the channel sixcorners |
| 23:34.58 | Arrowmaster | >>> a = string.dump(function()return;end) a = a:gsub(string.char(30,37,122,128), string.char(34,0,0), 1) loadstring(a)() return "crash?" |
| 23:35.00 | Cide | Arrowmaster: |
| 23:35.09 | Cide | you can't crash me |
| 23:35.12 | Cide | you crash lua |
| 23:35.13 | sixcorners | : \ how do you PM the bot? |
| 23:35.15 | Arrowmaster | i know |
| 23:35.26 | Cide | I'm watching a movie so it drops fullscreen every time |
| 23:35.32 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 23:35.43 | Shirik | Dagmar: Okay, do you think you can name all of the ways to kick batbot offline? |
| 23:35.45 | Shirik | I think not |
| 23:36.07 | Arrowmaster | --> print(unpack({1,2,3}, 2^31-1, 2^31-1)) |
| 23:36.08 | batbot | Arrowmaster: nil |
| 23:36.30 | Dagmar | Shirik: I played on EFNet throughout the 90's. Go pick on bikers. You'll stand better odds. |
| 23:36.32 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: batrick is the one that discovered that bug. If he hadn't patched it... well.... |
| 23:36.40 | Shirik | Dagmar, in all honesty, let me put it this way |
| 23:36.40 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 23:36.47 | Shirik | We've been testing these bots for almost a year now |
| 23:36.52 | Dagmar | good for you. |
| 23:36.54 | Shirik | You severely underestimate the amount of work that it takes |
| 23:36.58 | Dagmar | No, I don't. |
| 23:37.12 | Shirik | On that note, I suggest that you pay a little more appreciation towards the people that have actually taken the time to provide you with these bots |
| 23:37.15 | Dagmar | I wrote freaking bots to keep little script kiddies OUT of my channels during that whole tenure on EFNet. |
| 23:37.16 | Shirik | Obviously they aren't paid to do it |
| 23:37.41 | Dagmar | Keeping one online is trivial. Making it useful is a whole order of magnitiude more complex. |
| 23:37.44 | sixcorners | >>> print("test\92n");print("send two messages dangit : \\") |
| 23:37.44 | Cide | sixcorners: "test\\n", "send two messages dangit : \\" |
| 23:37.52 | Shirik | Tell me why batbot, for example, is not useful? |
| 23:37.57 | Shirik | It provides all of the features of Lua |
| 23:37.59 | Dagmar | How the hell should I know |
| 23:38.04 | Shirik | If you don't know |
| 23:38.07 | Shirik | Then pardon my language |
| 23:38.10 | Shirik | Shut the fuck up |
| 23:38.11 | Dagmar | You're clearly picking some argument I'm not privy to and fighting hard to defend it |
| 23:39.01 | Arrowmaster | >>> collectgarbage("setpause", 100) collectgarbage("setstepmul", 2000) collectgarbage("step",0) |
| 23:39.01 | Cide | Arrowmaster: nil |
| 23:39.06 | Dagmar | ...cuz I'll be damned if I have any idea where this batbot figures into things. |
| 23:40.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Reverse DNS for IPv6 addresses suck to do btw |
| 23:41.11 | Dagmar | It burns the eyes |
| 23:41.21 | Dagmar | nuoHep:my:God:how:many:colons:were:in:that |
| 23:41.44 | ScytheBlade1 | 2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.f.f.f.f.b.2.8.d.0.7.4.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa. |
| 23:41.44 | ScytheBlade1 | A lot |
| 23:41.53 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 23:41.59 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 23:42.02 | Kaso | hah |
| 23:42.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Er |
| 23:42.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Technically 0 colons |
| 23:42.13 | ScytheBlade1 | But a lot of periods |
| 23:42.32 | Dagmar | One thing's for sure.... IPv6 gives admins a lot of room to use really retarded hostnames on the network, like HC-WMHCEB21 |
| 23:42.48 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
| 23:42.56 | Arrowmaster | how does hostnames have anything to do with ipv6? |
| 23:43.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: my IPv6 tunnel provider lets me control reverse DNS |
| 23:43.30 | Arrowmaster | ScytheBlade1: blank reply |
| 23:43.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Arrowmaster: lol |
| 23:44.48 | ScytheBlade1 | If you look for PTR records attached to that address it should actually return (valid) data |
| 23:45.19 | Arrowmaster | oh hey it did |
| 23:45.32 | ScytheBlade1 | ^^ |
| 23:45.55 | sixcorners | >>> print("\0Test") |
| 23:45.55 | Cide | sixcorners: "\000Test" |
| 23:46.26 | Shirik | sixcorners: It should be noted that "\0" == "\000" |
| 23:46.36 | Arrowmaster | sixcorners: that kinda stuff doesnt work, that was the first thing that got cide booted off the network and fixed extremely fast |
| 23:46.49 | Shirik | oh I remember those days |
| 23:46.50 | sixcorners | ah |
| 23:47.09 | Shirik | Unfortunately I used QUIT commands instead of something like NOTICE #wowuidev: Shirik is my master |
| 23:47.16 | Shirik | If only I was more intelligent back then... |
| 23:47.27 | Anaral | Arrowmaster: I broke cf git again. :p |
| 23:47.31 | Arrowmaster | didnt somebody else do that? |
| 23:47.36 | Shirik | don't think so |
| 23:47.38 | sixcorners | there is a quit command? |
| 23:47.39 | Shirik | maybe |
| 23:47.41 | Arrowmaster | Anaral: doubt it was you |
| 23:47.47 | Arrowmaster | Anaral: i broke it lastnight |
| 23:47.49 | Shirik | sixcorners: There is in the IRC protocol |
| 23:48.02 | Anaral | Lol, yeah but it doesn't seem to like updating my mod. |
| 23:48.10 | sixcorners | hmm.. whats backspace? |
| 23:48.16 | Shirik | so, for example, you would do something like print("\nQUIT :bye bye"); |
| 23:48.42 | sixcorners | >>> print("t\8test") |
| 23:48.42 | Cide | sixcorners: "t\008test" |
| 23:48.43 | Shirik | and Cide's bot would output "PRIVMSG #wowuidev: Shirik:" followed by "QUIT :bye bye" which would then obviously kick him off |
| 23:49.20 | Dagmar | ...cuz those it would be easier to just use IP addresses if it were IPv4. |
| 23:49.20 | Dagmar | You have to WORK to make a hostname so user-hostile that it would be less trouble to cut and paste the thing from a file, let alone commit the IPv6 address to memory |
| 23:49.40 | sixcorners | ah, I dont know anything about the protocol : \ |
| 23:50.09 | Shirik | sixcorners: Then, no offense, you're probably not going to get far :) |
| 23:50.19 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Hostnames are what you're supposed to use instead of having to remember IP addresses. Some admins need more blows to the head becuase they choose hostnames which are NOT easier to remember than the IP address itself |
| 23:50.22 | Shirik | Crashing Cide's bot is essentially pointless |
| 23:50.27 | sixcorners | >>> print("\31") |
| 23:50.27 | Cide | sixcorners: "\031" |
| 23:50.45 | sixcorners | I know.. but who knows with fuzz testing |
| 23:51.01 | sixcorners | >>> print("\32") -- this should work |
| 23:51.02 | Cide | sixcorners: " " |
| 23:51.04 | sixcorners | woot |
| 23:51.15 | sixcorners | not kick him, but it shouldnt be escaped |
| 23:51.17 | Shirik | I'm just saying, the only real attack vector that I can see is (a) somehow killing Cide's entire computer, and (b) injection of IRC commands |
| 23:51.22 | Cide | you're wasting precious internet traffic |
| 23:51.23 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: You'd be amazed at how often you'll come across sites that for _normal_ systems (which aren't even clusters) where the dimwitted management will have dictated machines be named using some crazy acronym fetish which completely defeats the point of having an easy to type and remember hostname |
| 23:51.54 | sixcorners | :( wasting... |
| 23:52.13 | Shirik | batbot, on the other hand |
| 23:52.18 | Shirik | has a ton of other attack vectors |
| 23:52.26 | Dagmar | sixcorners: There shoudlnt' be a need for fuzz testing if the output from the child process is detainted using something as simple as a regexp to remove all non-printable characters |
| 23:52.56 | sixcorners | right.. thats why I checked space (32) to see if thats what was used |
| 23:53.04 | Dagmar | Ah okay |
| 23:53.14 | Cide | I could print all non-printable characters any day |
| 23:53.17 | Cide | and still be uncrashable |
| 23:53.21 | cbreak | >>> local a,b = 1,1 while true do a,b = b, a+b print(b) end |
| 23:53.24 | Shirik | erm |
| 23:53.27 | Cide | cbreak: maximum execution time (5s) exceeded |
| 23:53.35 | Shirik | you'd have to be careful :) |
| 23:53.39 | Cide | why? |
| 23:53.39 | sixcorners | its escaped tho : \ |
| 23:53.40 | Dagmar | Shirik: I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything, but I've (figuratively speaking) been on the internet longer than porn (to be sure, before porno in color) |
| 23:53.59 | Shirik | Dagmar: Seriously, so what? |
| 23:54.01 | Dagmar | Security is something I've got deep knowredge on |
| 23:54.32 | Dagmar | If ya spent a year working on the bot, great. I admire your dedication, but I suspect a lot of that time was learning by experimentation |
| 23:54.37 | Shirik | Good for you. Now I suggest that you stop trying to act better than everyone and degrading everyone else, especially those that have put in a lot of time to provide this channel with useful tools, before something bad happens to you. |
| 23:54.55 | Cide | >>> return "\0" |
| 23:54.56 | cbreak | >>> local a,b = 1,1 while b < 100 do a,b = b, a+b print(b) end |
| 23:54.56 | Cide | cbreak: 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144 |
| 23:55.10 | Dagmar | Add 10-15 years of banging on similar things and you start thinking in terms of spheres of authentication, attack vectors, resource allocation, and so on, before worrying about a _single_ line of code |
| 23:55.25 | Shirik | Dagmar, I'm not kidding |
| 23:55.30 | Cide | >>> return "\0" |
| 23:55.39 | Dagmar | Shirik: You really need to rein in that ego man |
| 23:55.53 | Cide | >>> return "\0" |
| 23:55.54 | Cide | Cide: "\000" |
| 23:55.54 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+b %*!*@unaffiliated/dagmar] by Shirik |
| 23:55.57 | Cide | >>> return "\1" |
| 23:56.06 | Cide | Shirik: there you go |
| 23:56.13 | Cide | no characters beside \0 are escaped |
| 23:56.20 | Shirik | er |
| 23:56.21 | Cide | \0 only because xchat won't send commands with null bytes |
| 23:56.22 | Shirik | then how did you do this |
| 23:56.25 | bleeter | damnit |
| 23:56.28 | Shirik | >>> return "\nQUIT :test" |
| 23:56.28 | Cide | Shirik: "\nQUIT :test" |
| 23:56.34 | bleeter | every time this morning I've just sat down to move out |
| 23:56.38 | bleeter | it's crashed =)) |
| 23:56.49 | bleeter | so yeah folks, must be me.. stop blaming cide |
| 23:57.00 | Anaral | lol |
| 23:57.35 | Cide | Shirik: oops, that's replaced in lua land |
| 23:57.44 | Shirik | orly? |
| 23:58.39 | *** part/#wowuidev Dagmar (i=dagmar@unaffiliated/dagmar) |
| 23:58.59 | *** join/#wowuidev Adys (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 23:59.14 | *** join/#wowuidev scort (n=scott@cpe-67-11-174-209.satx.res.rr.com) |
| 23:59.18 | scort | unf fap meow |
| 23:59.51 | scort | meow mix meow mix |
| 23:59.57 | scort | plz deliver |
