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| 00:04.55 | Duman | yay world server |
| 00:05.22 | Anaral | I apparently also get disconnected. lol |
| 00:05.38 | Duman | northrend server died |
| 00:05.53 | Duman | I mean, the northend 'instance', on the Northrend PvE server ;) |
| 00:06.15 | Tekkub | northrend/northrend go down the hole? |
| 00:06.22 | Duman | fall down go boom |
| 00:06.23 | Anaral | Yep |
| 00:06.34 | Anaral | It's fallen and can't get up. |
| 00:07.03 | Duman | oh, there we go |
| 00:07.06 | Duman | maybe |
| 00:07.08 | Duman | wait for it |
| 00:07.25 | Duman | well, full loading bar, but that's it |
| 00:08.09 | ScytheBlade1 | "A registered sex offender, well-known to law enforcers and his neighbors as "Diaper Boy" because of the undergarments he wears, was arrested Thursday after allegedly exposing his diaper to children." |
| 00:08.40 | ScytheBlade1 | o_0 |
| 00:08.54 | Anaral | Well I could log onto my DK |
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| 01:05.00 | Guest12071 | sigh |
| 01:05.10 | Guest12071 | freenode needs to chill on the message throttling imo |
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| 01:24.52 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: ooohhh, nice |
| 01:33.30 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 01:33.31 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9023653830&sid=2000 |
| 01:33.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Post #3/#4 |
| 01:35.34 | kd3 | lol |
| 01:35.35 | Shirik | #4 is win |
| 01:36.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Indeed it is |
| 01:38.23 | selckin | #3 is deleted |
| 01:39.00 | ScytheBlade1 | NOO |
| 01:39.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh wait, #4 |
| 01:39.11 | ScytheBlade1 | *33 |
| 01:39.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Drugs ftl |
| 01:39.29 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, it is, I fail terribly hard |
| 01:39.38 | ScytheBlade1 | #2 and #4 is what I meant |
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| 02:16.37 | kd3 | huzzah. it looks like we may get hit by a tropical storm in a week |
| 02:17.52 | Shirik | oh noes! Not a tropical storm! |
| 02:18.00 | kd3 | thus the "huzzah" |
| 02:18.02 | kd3 | we need the rain |
| 02:18.06 | Shirik | come down to Florida :P |
| 02:18.09 | Shirik | we get rain every day |
| 02:18.19 | kd3 | I know. I lived in tampa for 10 years |
| 02:18.28 | Shirik | good! Come to daytona! |
| 02:18.36 | kd3 | I was there for spring break this year. that count? |
| 02:18.42 | Shirik | spring break is crap :P |
| 02:18.47 | Shirik | too many people |
| 02:23.46 | Duman | ack! |
| 02:24.20 | Duman | kd#; thx for the re-diff :) |
| 02:24.30 | Duman | damn world server kaput again |
| 02:24.34 | Duman | oooh, now I can't even connect |
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| 02:24.57 | Neuro_Medivh | well, there goes my idea of logging into beta =) |
| 02:25.12 | Duman | it's been fine the last 2 hours or so |
| 02:25.37 | Quezacolt | Anyone else getting crashes when logging into their DK? |
| 02:27.34 | Shirik | ok night |
| 02:29.01 | Neuro_Medivh | Quez, how old is your DK? |
| 02:29.35 | Neuro_Medivh | I read reports that older DKs are crashing because they have a now non-existant talent |
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| 02:32.15 | Xuerian | Neuro_Medivh: What was the talent? |
| 02:32.38 | Neuro_Medivh | Like improved frost rune weapon or something like that |
| 02:32.50 | Neuro_Medivh | they turned it into Razorice iirc |
| 02:33.40 | Neuro_Medivh | yeah, frozen rune weapon |
| 02:35.35 | Xuerian | Ahh |
| 02:35.43 | Xuerian | Ps, coords in instances = win |
| 02:36.08 | Neuro_Medivh | yea verily yea |
| 02:42.06 | Anaral | Bwahahaha! Under statistics in the Achievements is a stat for how many deaths were from Hogger. |
| 02:42.07 | Quezacolt | my DK was created just last weekend |
| 02:42.16 | Quezacolt | lol! |
| 02:44.05 | selckin | ppl gonna go die there on purpuse now |
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| 02:45.39 | Xuerian | Anaral: rofl |
| 02:46.09 | Xuerian | "One-shotted hogger" "Died to hogger" "Was owned by hogger" "Has yet to down hogger" |
| 02:46.20 | Anaral | LOL |
| 02:46.54 | Xuerian | "Downed hogger after level 20. Don't you feel special." |
| 02:48.47 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 02:48.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Win |
| 02:58.32 | Duman | bwahaha |
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| 03:11.35 | kd3 | and phelps pulled it off |
| 03:11.37 | kd3 | incredible |
| 03:11.56 | Sixen | What's going on? |
| 03:12.01 | Kolie | 8 golds now? |
| 03:12.05 | kd3 | phelps just got gold #8 |
| 03:12.27 | Sixen | Nyze! |
| 03:13.29 | |pez| | who's phelps? |
| 03:13.38 | Kolie | hes a swimmer. |
| 03:13.47 | Kolie | he gets golds. |
| 03:13.47 | |pez| | ooh |
| 03:13.50 | Kolie | lots of golds. |
| 03:14.23 | |pez| | there was some norweegian dude swimming, which had skills |
| 03:14.24 | |pez| | ... |
| 03:14.59 | sacarasc | the olympics has started? |
| 03:15.09 | kd3 | it's been going on for a week now |
| 03:15.37 | Keias | We get a tabard in-game, keep up with WoW! |
| 03:15.39 | sacarasc | they didn't invite me... |
| 03:16.11 | sacarasc | i know the tabard and the pet... guess i should have worked it out |
| 03:16.16 | sacarasc | got both, heh |
| 03:25.52 | Mikk | Phelps haxes |
| 03:26.05 | Xuerian | I love oUF. That is all. |
| 03:28.36 | Mikk | I mean... effing size 50 feet? |
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| 03:39.11 | kd3 | jesus! 9.68 |
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| 03:40.40 | Kirov | Michael Phelps currently has: the most gold medals, the most gold medals in a single olympics, the most world records in a single olympics, and the most solo world records. |
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| 03:40.57 | Kirov | He's tied for the most world records overall. |
| 03:44.48 | Kirov | He'll need to get two more olympic medals to tie for most medals of all time though. |
| 03:45.04 | kd3 | london's 4 years away |
| 03:46.24 | Kirov | He currently has 16 (14 golds, 2 bronzes). A russian gymnist who competed 3 years in a row in 1956 - 1964 has 18 medals, 9 gold, 5 silver, 4 bronze. |
| 03:47.13 | selckin | my only questions, why do you care |
| 03:47.34 | kd3 | the olympics are awe-inspiring? |
| 03:48.31 | Kolie | Idunno. I think phelps is a doper personally. |
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| 03:49.24 | Kolie | the guy its 12k calories a day, have you seen his food list? |
| 03:50.28 | Duman | lol PvP @ Valiance Keep |
| 03:50.41 | Duman | the guards hit like wet noodles |
| 03:50.45 | Duman | that needs some serious fixing :) |
| 03:52.56 | Mike-N-Go | I have a question. What happens to the saved vars of addons that are currently disabled or not presently installed? Do they take up 'space' are they loaded? Or not? |
| 03:53.35 | ccox | they aren't loaded, as far as I can tell |
| 03:54.02 | Duman | gah, now there are lke 10 horde |
| 03:54.06 | Duman | most of them 74+ |
| 03:54.14 | Kirov | Mike-N-Go - they're treated like another file of the addon itself. ie: It doesn't read them or load them until you load the addon. |
| 03:54.38 | Mike-N-Go | Ahh, so it does no harm to just leave them there. |
| 03:58.54 | Mike-N-Go | Thank you for taming my curiosity. |
| 04:12.32 | Arrowmaster | bah wtf the app i compiled can use the lua5.1.dll that i compiled but it cant load the stock one (compiled with visual studio i think) but the stock lua.exe can use my lua5.1.dll |
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| 04:45.27 | Mikk | Arrowmaster: classic results of forward/backward compatibility no? |
| 04:45.59 | Arrowmaster | i have no clue |
| 04:46.55 | Mikk | Assume you use a basicish compiler. And that the stock one is made with something using extensions. |
| 04:47.00 | Arrowmaster | the app i compiled causes the stock lua5.1.dll to trigger an error about being accessed incorrectly |
| 04:47.02 | Mikk | Now it makes sense that your stuff can't load stuff using extensions |
| 04:47.22 | Mikk | But the stock lua can load your basicish dll |
| 04:47.59 | Arrowmaster | the funny thing is the stock one is larger than mine and it requires an MS runtime dll |
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| 04:49.12 | Mikk | Wouldn't be surprised if yours does aswell! |
| 04:49.26 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt |
| 04:49.36 | Arrowmaster | since it was compiled on a linux box with mingw |
| 04:50.05 | Mikk | Very few things survive without msvcrt |
| 04:50.13 | Mikk | == libc |
| 04:51.34 | ccox | Mikk - anything compiled with a decent compiler survives well without msvcrt |
| 04:51.36 | Arrowmaster | msvcr80.dll is required by the stock one |
| 04:52.27 | Mikk | ccox: Uhu. By embedd |
| 04:52.38 | Mikk | ing all needed libc components |
| 04:52.53 | Arrowmaster | hmm i wonder if its because the stock one is C++ |
| 04:52.54 | ccox | Mikk - no, just use a real compiler (ie: not MSVC) |
| 04:52.59 | Mikk | Eh |
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| 04:53.24 | Arrowmaster | or atleast this error message says C++ in it, dont know if its really C++ or just C |
| 04:53.35 | Mikk | The way I'm reading what you're saying now is: C programs can use libc... but not embed libc, and not require it by external dependency, and somehow just magic its functionality out of thin air |
| 04:53.57 | Mikk | Yes, you can write programs that don't use libc |
| 04:54.02 | Mikk | But Lua certainly uses it |
| 04:54.28 | Mikk | Things tend to be somewhat unportable if you don't! |
| 04:58.50 | Mikk | As for "proper compilers"... I think you will be VERY hard pressed to find a better (as in producing better machine code) compiler than microsoft's -- since they're getting all the cool tricks from Intel |
| 04:59.04 | Mikk | gcc is plain shit for optimizing code |
| 04:59.17 | Lopeppeppy | I read "Intel" as "Iriel". I need to go to bed soon! |
| 04:59.19 | Mikk | gcc rocks anything's socks for crossplatformness - true - but optimizing? Heh, no. |
| 05:01.48 | Mikk | (And yeah MSVC doesn't == locked to windows. We use it at work to produce binaries for our own platform, which has nothing in common with windows, linux, or anything else.) |
| 05:02.11 | ccox | Mikk - um, most compilers are better at optimization than MSVC |
| 05:02.25 | ccox | Mikk - and they are obviously not getting too many tricks from Intel |
| 05:02.52 | ccox | Mikk - gcc currently runs circles around MSVC for optimization |
| 05:02.52 | Mikk | Eh, they only integrated all of Intel's compiler some time around v6) |
| 05:03.02 | ccox | Mikk - no, not even close |
| 05:03.29 | ccox | Mikk - MS did not get Intel's compiler, because they don't work even remotely similarly, have very different front ends, and very different code generation |
| 05:03.36 | Mikk | Well.. what can I say.. we tried gcc.. with every optimization in the book tossed at it. And then laughed ourselves silly seeing our performance drop down to nearly half. |
| 05:03.47 | ccox | Mikk - that, and I know most of the compiler engineers with both companies :-) |
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| 05:04.10 | Mikk | I'll grant you - this was a few years ago. |
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| 05:04.17 | ccox | Mikk - gcc isn't great, but MSVC currently dead last in common compiler performance |
| 05:04.31 | Mikk | We're talking plain C here or something else? |
| 05:04.31 | ccox | Mikk - even the new LLVM compiler smokes it |
| 05:04.37 | ccox | Mikk - C and C++ |
| 05:04.50 | ccox | Mikk - MSVC falls down worst when C++ is thrown at it |
| 05:05.12 | Mikk | Wouldn't know about C++, we're a plain C shop for the performance bits |
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| 05:05.31 | Mikk | Seriously though... sources for this? |
| 05:05.47 | Mikk | Or charts? |
| 05:05.58 | ccox | Mikk - C++ standards committe, boost mailing list, etc. |
| 05:06.44 | ccox | Mikk - plus lots of private benchmarking, lots of conversations with engineers and managers at all the related companies (which are all under @#$%#% NDA, of course) |
| 05:07.16 | Mikk | Still though.. I've got to wonder if your use cases are wildly different from mine |
| 05:07.17 | ccox | Mikk - you should also try the Intel compiler, it's improving |
| 05:07.35 | ccox | Mikk - I test low level performance code, and performance of C++ code |
| 05:07.46 | ccox | Mikk - if the CPU isn't melting, I'm not satisfied |
| 05:07.52 | Mikk | I do drivers / firewalling / state engines |
| 05:08.15 | ccox | Mikk - I do drivers and desktop software |
| 05:09.02 | Mikk | Out of curiosity then - have you been monitoring this for a while? Did gcc make a GIGANTIC leap forward over the past couple of years? |
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| 05:10.31 | ccox | Mikk - been monitoring it for over 10 years, beating up compiler engineers (and they have the bruises to prove it) |
| 05:10.48 | ccox | Mikk - yes, GCC got a lot better, and LLVM is leapfrogging that |
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| 05:11.19 | ccox | Mikk - of course, performance regressions from MSVC haven't helped their case |
| 05:11.27 | Lopeppeppy | .1 G left... go downloader, go.... |
| 05:11.36 | Mikk | Haha yeah we never did go past v6 :o) |
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| 05:12.06 | Thunder_Child | ~disrupt Lopeppeppy |
| 05:12.11 | Thunder_Child | :( |
| 05:12.18 | Lopeppeppy | Noooo! Bastich! |
| 05:12.28 | Lopeppeppy | DIAF and jump off a cliff and and.... argggggghhh! |
| 05:12.30 | Esamynn | MSVC is a spawn of the Devil!!! (goes off on a Microsoft is the Devil rant) |
| 05:12.34 | Esamynn | *weg* |
| 05:12.39 | Thunder_Child | DDoS Lopeppeppy please |
| 05:12.49 | Thunder_Child | someone? |
| 05:12.55 | Esamynn | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 05:12.55 | purl | drops a baby grand on Thunder_Child |
| 05:13.24 | Thunder_Child | gnomes are just living footballs |
| 05:13.51 | Thunder_Child | oh, and Esamynn, whatevah! |
| 05:15.02 | ccox | Esamynn - be that as it may, I prefer to base my rants on verifiable metrics (ie: benchmarks) |
| 05:15.14 | Esamynn | yah, I try to as well |
| 05:15.27 | Esamynn | though sometimes I do get caught up in hating Microsoft :/ |
| 05:15.38 | Lopeppeppy | Or gnomes. *sad* |
| 05:15.44 | ccox | Esamynn - so you have genetic evidence of MSVC's parentage? |
| 05:15.46 | Esamynn | I don't hate gnomes |
| 05:15.49 | Esamynn | ~hug Lopeppeppy |
| 05:15.49 | purl | ACTION hugs Lopeppeppy |
| 05:15.50 | ccox | :-P |
| 05:16.00 | kd3 | wait, wait, you mean we're not supposed to go on rants against microsoft when there's verifiable evidence? |
| 05:16.14 | Esamynn | ccox: find me some Satan DNA, and I'll run the test ;) |
| 05:16.31 | Esamynn | kd3: unless |
| 05:16.33 | Esamynn | not when |
| 05:16.47 | Mikk | Righto.. I guess it's time for a compiler bake-off again then. |
| 05:16.48 | Esamynn | :P |
| 05:16.53 | kd3 | ya, that's what I meant. |
| 05:17.04 | Mikk | Tbh I'd totally missed LLVM |
| 05:17.04 | kd3 | I should log off. too brain dead to type coherently |
| 05:17.16 | ccox | llvm.org - very promising |
| 05:17.20 | Mikk | It looks.... funky |
| 05:17.28 | Tem | Esamynn, try spending your whole day in .net land |
| 05:17.55 | Esamynn | Tem: umm, why? I'm not masochistic :P |
| 05:18.02 | ccox | Tem - you can get Satan DNA in .net land? I did not know that! |
| 05:19.13 | Mikk | Oho. Niceish list of target platforms too. |
| 05:19.31 | Lopeppeppy | INSTALLING! |
| 05:19.37 | ccox | Mikk - yep, and can use as a JIT (very, very useful for GPU shader code) |
| 05:19.53 | Arrowmaster | somehow i think i broke something |
| 05:20.13 | Mikk | Hehe.. not that our boxes even have graphics cards :P |
| 05:20.18 | Arrowmaster | after i compile this, its refering to the wrong lib |
| 05:20.31 | ccox | Mikk - well, some of us live on modern hardware :-) |
| 05:20.53 | Mikk | Bah. Graphics cards lag the PCI bus too bad. No good :P |
| 05:21.13 | Mikk | Network cards & crypto accelerators want it all! |
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| 05:23.25 | Mikk | ... and does garbage collection too huh.. Hummmm, very very interesting stuff this. |
| 05:25.16 | ccox | Mikk -- well, it works with GC systems in languages that support it |
| 05:25.51 | Mikk | Well, yeah, obviously |
| 05:26.15 | Mikk | Some of our OEM shit has a web frontend, which some dimwit wanted to write in .net |
| 05:26.43 | Arrowmaster | did you fire him? |
| 05:26.49 | Mikk | So the parts that go into the actual box is bastardized preprocessed .net, compiled with a C++ compiler, with very icky macro magic |
| 05:27.11 | Mikk | The ickiest part being a halfassed GC implementation |
| 05:27.30 | Mikk | Which, while it works, is fragile as fuck. |
| 05:27.47 | Mikk | One cockup in the almost-.net-code and things go haywire in hard-to-track ways |
| 05:28.27 | Mikk | The one advantage of it all being that since it's C++, there's compilers for Every Damn Platform. |
| 05:29.08 | Mikk | But yeah, I'm thinking new LLVM frontend, and proper GC ... |
| 05:29.45 | ckknight | was it done in C++/.NET or something custom? |
| 05:30.23 | Mikk | The original code passes through a .net compiler and can run under winbloze (it's the config UI) |
| 05:30.33 | Mikk | The mangled & preprocessed stuff ends up being C++ |
| 05:30.40 | Mikk | But you don't get to take too many liberties with the .net code :) |
| 05:31.12 | Mikk | And no we didn't fire the fucker because it was a summer project done by the boss' kid brother |
| 05:31.16 | Mikk | (No, I shit you not.) |
| 05:31.37 | Arrowmaster | rofl |
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| 05:32.03 | Mikk | "Look, my kid brother did a whole UI in just a month! And here you've been fucking around several months writing it in C!" |
| 05:32.23 | Mikk | Yeah.. well... funny how he didn't say anything when it took us half a fucking year to actually get it working on our platform |
| 05:33.36 | Mikk | Good thing it's OEM bollox. I don't have to be associated with it :) |
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| 06:19.50 | ccox|food | Mikk - can you tell us what product(s) to avoid? |
| 06:20.09 | Mikk | Haha |
| 06:20.19 | Mikk | Nah don't worry. It WORKS. It's just fucking hell to keep it working for us! |
| 06:20.59 | ccox|food | Mikk - as long as it's not my Cisco/Linksys routers or my TiVO.... |
| 06:21.43 | Mikk | Haha.. nice combination there :) |
| 06:21.47 | Mikk | routers. tivo |
| 06:22.28 | Mikk | And no I've probably already violated some obscure paragraph of NDA so I'm not gonna give you names :o) |
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| 06:30.02 | Thunder_Child | wow, dexter is really weird |
| 06:30.15 | ckknight | I enjoy it |
| 06:30.31 | Thunder_Child | ya, a lot funnier than i thought it would be |
| 06:31.08 | ckknight | it's the eternal monologue that gets ya |
| 06:33.53 | Thunder_Child | i dunno, doesnt seem to bother me |
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| 06:41.04 | Mikk | ("gets" or "gets to"?) |
| 06:42.15 | ckknight | This isn't a real suicide-thing. This is probably one of those cry-for-help things. |
| 06:43.40 | Kirov | dexter? |
| 06:43.51 | ckknight | that's actually from Fight Club |
| 06:43.55 | Kirov | I just think of the cartoon network show. Is there something else? |
| 06:44.07 | ckknight | yes, Dexter's about a serial killer |
| 06:44.13 | ckknight | excellent show |
| 06:44.52 | Dewin | Anybody care to recommend a an addon that will let me keybind a macro without burning an action bar button? |
| 06:45.01 | ckknight | spellbind? |
| 06:46.19 | Dewin | hmm, looks a little outdated |
| 06:46.33 | Arrowmaster | its not |
| 06:47.27 | Dewin | are the buttons on the screenshot hardcoded or can you set them yourselves? |
| 06:47.36 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt have buttons |
| 06:47.46 | Dewin | I don't mean action bar buttons |
| 06:47.57 | Dewin | http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw5359.jpg |
| 06:47.59 | Arrowmaster | you can bind to anything |
| 06:48.21 | Arrowmaster | those are just menu buttons |
| 06:48.33 | Dewin | alright |
| 06:48.48 | Dewin | I'll take a look |
| 06:48.51 | Arrowmaster | just use it and bind the stuff, then you can unload it and everything will still be bound |
| 06:49.05 | Arrowmaster | its just an interface to the bliz keybinding api |
| 06:49.57 | Dewin | hmm |
| 06:50.02 | Dewin | if that's the case I can probably just /script what I want |
| 06:50.15 | Dewin | I just want a simple swap target/focus keybind |
| 06:50.56 | Arrowmaster | that will probably need a macro |
| 06:51.33 | Dewin | hmm, just found a "bindpad" too. That looks slightly more robust. |
| 06:51.48 | Arrowmaster | and some tricky logic on target last target |
| 06:51.56 | Dewin | there's /targetlasttarget |
| 06:52.18 | Dewin | /target focus /targetlasttarget /focus /targetlasttarget |
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| 07:05.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Right so |
| 07:05.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Dark Knight in IMAX |
| 07:05.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Might be win |
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| 07:40.57 | Sixen | =o |
| 07:42.35 | ScytheBlade1 | =] |
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| 07:49.16 | Mikk | http://www.unmotivating.com/v/macusers.jpg.html NUF SAID! |
| 07:49.39 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
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| 07:50.57 | Kirov | http://www.unmotivating.com/gallery2/d/6522-1/macrosoft.jpg |
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| 07:52.03 | Kirov | I'm humored by that one, but at the same time people always seem to forget something ... Microsoft owns a large percentage of Apple, and the new Macs can run Vista better than most laptops. |
| 07:52.53 | Corrodias | along with this goes the image of a windows booting image on a display at an apple presentation |
| 07:53.46 | Kirov | Yeah, basically all of the iphone ad displays run on windows xp |
| 07:54.45 | Kirov | People have photos of the giant fake iphones that were in the front windows of every apple store in the world when the iPhone first came out ... with a blue screen. |
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| 08:25.43 | ReAn | danm Tekkub, you're sneaky... you snuck offline while i switched toons. |
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| 08:34.22 | Cairenn | ~seen Tem |
| 08:34.24 | purl | tem is currently on #wowprogramming (1d 9h 40m 48s) #wowuidev (1d 9h 40m 48s) #wowace (1d 9h 40m 48s). Has said a total of 5 messages. Is idling for 3h 16m 56s, last said: 'Esamynn, try spending your whole day in .net land'. |
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| 08:39.29 | ReAn | heya Cairenn |
| 08:39.36 | Cairenn | hi ReAn |
| 08:39.49 | ReAn | what is new in cool-land? |
| 08:40.09 | Cairenn | peach mango? |
| 08:40.15 | ReAn | lol |
| 08:40.19 | ReAn | excelent! |
| 08:40.27 | ckknight | pssh |
| 08:40.31 | ckknight | mango peach is better, you know |
| 08:40.32 | Cairenn | oh, sorry, I saw koolaid land |
| 08:40.33 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 08:40.35 | ReAn | sup ck |
| 08:40.37 | ReAn | oh hey |
| 08:40.46 | ReAn | ckknight, you wrote cartographer right? |
| 08:40.48 | Cairenn | I have NO idea why, but that's what I saw |
| 08:40.49 | ckknight | sure did |
| 08:41.02 | ckknight | Cairenn: drinking too much koolaid? |
| 08:41.05 | ckknight | OH YEA! |
| 08:41.09 | Cairenn | hehehehe |
| 08:41.13 | ReAn | i've gotten the latest release of cart3 off curse, having bugs, where do you want me to report them? |
| 08:41.29 | ckknight | ReAn: on curseforge, on the cartographer3 project |
| 08:41.35 | ckknight | ~cartographer3 |
| 08:41.36 | purl | it has been said that cartographer3 is the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/ - Provide feedback at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/tickets/. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/917523 |
| 08:41.37 | ReAn | kk, willdo |
| 08:41.38 | ckknight | link there |
| 08:42.54 | ReAn | yea it was wierd, it was working the just stopped the other day, ill try and be as specific as i can |
| 08:43.50 | ckknight | do you run an error catcher like BugSack or Swatter? |
| 08:44.05 | Kirov | ckknight - oh, I had an idea for an addition to cartographer |
| 08:44.08 | ReAn | not on beta cuz i haven't had a chance to get a decent one |
| 08:44.10 | ckknight | shoot |
| 08:44.17 | Kirov | minimap replacement |
| 08:44.18 | ckknight | ReAn: WotLK? |
| 08:44.23 | ReAn | yes |
| 08:44.25 | ckknight | Kirov: yea, a lot of people have had that idea |
| 08:44.29 | ckknight | ReAn: what version you using? |
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| 08:44.44 | ckknight | Kirov: it's doable |
| 08:44.46 | Kirov | take the real minimap texture and put it at the center of the generated map |
| 08:45.00 | Kirov | when you expand, the center will still be the real minimap. |
| 08:45.12 | Kirov | that way you can go full screen but still see things like the yellow blips |
| 08:45.17 | ckknight | actually the way to do it would be to position the minimap on the cart3 map properly |
| 08:45.17 | ReAn | hrm |
| 08:45.19 | ckknight | set alpha to 0 |
| 08:45.23 | ckknight | (which still shows blips) |
| 08:45.27 | ReAn | i believe i've made myself look like an idiot now |
| 08:45.28 | ReAn | lol |
| 08:45.31 | ckknight | and then resize and move as appropriate |
| 08:45.34 | ReAn | 3.0 0.9.1 |
| 08:45.37 | ckknight | ReAn: make sure to get the most recent alpha |
| 08:45.40 | ReAn | k |
| 08:45.43 | ReAn | will do |
| 08:45.49 | ckknight | if you still have issues, then tell me |
| 08:45.56 | ReAn | the odd part is the danm thing worked perfect for like 2 days :p |
| 08:46.31 | ReAn | snagging newest alpha and gonna see if there's a version of bugsack for wotlk |
| 08:47.36 | ckknight | I use Swatter, works for me |
| 08:47.55 | ReAn | isn't that part of the Auctioneer package? |
| 08:47.56 | ReAn | or rather |
| 08:47.57 | ReAn | same dude |
| 08:50.27 | ReAn | bah |
| 08:50.30 | ReAn | stupid fucking ui-scale bug |
| 08:51.09 | ReAn | anyone else getting that on wotlk beta? the global UI-scale set in the video settings keeps resetting randomly? |
| 08:51.30 | ccox | ReAn - yes, between full-screen and windowed mode |
| 08:51.58 | ccox | ReAn - there may be other triggers, but I haven't pinned them down |
| 08:52.16 | ReAn | i think changing your addon loadout does it too |
| 08:52.21 | ccox | ReAn - and yes, Swatter comes from the auctioneer group |
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| 10:36.17 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:39.52 | Maldivia | well, it made you notice it, so it worked :) |
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| 10:47.50 | ckknight | Cairenn: steampunk's coming back in a big way |
| 10:48.02 | Cairenn | oh? |
| 10:48.12 | Fisker- | >:)? |
| 10:48.36 | ckknight | :-P |
| 10:48.55 | Fisker- | who or what is steampunk? :O |
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| 10:49.32 | digmouse | uh is tooltip scanning the only way to get a unit's faction name like "The Aldor"? |
| 10:50.09 | ckknight | yes, to my knowledge |
| 10:50.45 | digmouse | I think so.. scanned the full API listing |
| 10:50.59 | Fisker- | There's always BugSloukenAboutIt() |
| 10:51.01 | ckknight | I've done it before |
| 10:51.25 | ckknight | digmouse: I do it in LibDogTag-3.0 |
| 10:51.35 | digmouse | UnitFactionGroup works only for A/N |
| 10:51.48 | digmouse | ckk: ya, I'm using cowtip for half a year |
| 10:52.14 | digmouse | checking out it to see a solution |
| 10:54.42 | digmouse | and ck, what may be the problem if my client crashes when shifting Pitbull setting category by Alt/Shift + clicking another frame? |
| 10:55.21 | ckknight | Blizzard issue |
| 10:55.26 | ckknight | regardless |
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| 10:55.33 | ckknight | but I don't see why that would crash |
| 10:56.00 | Daedals | anyone having problems logging in to beta EU? |
| 10:56.15 | digmouse | me neither, if I'm setting up my player frame, then Alt+Clicking party to switch, my client is gone |
| 10:58.09 | Fisker- | Blizzard should release 2.4.4 with wotlk ui :P |
| 10:58.13 | Fisker- | do want, etc. |
| 10:58.26 | ckknight | they'll release 3.0 before WotLK |
| 10:58.38 | digmouse | like "Before the Storm" |
| 10:59.34 | ckknight | Patch of the Lich King |
| 10:59.44 | Cairenn | most likely they'll do like they did last time, release 3.0 before WotLK, exactly as ckk said |
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| 11:00.28 | Cairenn | I would be surprised if they don't |
| 11:01.02 | digmouse | and that shouldn't be too long i think |
| 11:01.48 | Scale | Good afternoon, I have a small problem i have a button the size of the button is 20/20 (i confirmed that its set to 20/20) yet only the height is 20 what could cause this? |
| 11:02.01 | Cairenn | oh, I think it's still off a ways, they're still changing stuff all over the place |
| 11:02.35 | ckknight | Scale: what does the width show as? |
| 11:02.50 | Scale | 20 |
| 11:03.06 | Scale | i used the onenter event to check width and height |
| 11:03.06 | ckknight | Cairenn: my guess is a possible November WotLK, which would likely mean an October 3.0 patch |
| 11:03.47 | Cairenn | just as long as they don't release it before we're home from BlizzCon ;) |
| 11:04.22 | ckknight | my guess will be a week after, minimally |
| 11:04.23 | amro | Scale: what happens if you /script ButtonName:SetWidth(20)? |
| 11:04.35 | nevcairiel | haha that would be fun, saying on blizzcon that they just released the patch, and you're all screwed because you are there =P |
| 11:04.47 | ckknight | but I think that they'll run into some issues (as always happens with these things) and push it back a week or two |
| 11:04.51 | ckknight | i that is their internal plan |
| 11:04.54 | ckknight | we'll see |
| 11:05.20 | nevcairiel | once they release a fixed date, they usually keep it |
| 11:05.46 | ckknight | well, I don't believe they'll tell the world their fixed date |
| 11:05.50 | amro | they release a fixed date on release day, so it's not very helpful :P |
| 11:05.56 | Scale | let me try |
| 11:06.56 | Scale | mmm oke :S |
| 11:07.06 | Scale | the button disaerped |
| 11:07.11 | Scale | altough i can still see it |
| 11:07.39 | amro | Scale: hm? |
| 11:07.46 | Scale | but moveanything etc doesnt see it and it doesnt respond to mouse over |
| 11:07.54 | amro | Scale: can you pastebin the code you're using to creat eit? |
| 11:08.07 | Cairenn | wowuidev.pastey.net |
| 11:09.25 | Scale | working on it one moment |
| 11:10.38 | Fisker- | ckknight that wasn't what i was talking about |
| 11:10.51 | Fisker- | The 3.0 patch will likely be released a couple of weeks before launch |
| 11:10.57 | Fisker- | i'm talking about adding the ui stuff now |
| 11:11.08 | ckknight | your speaking privileges are now revoked, Fisker- |
| 11:11.18 | Fisker- | oh noes |
| 11:11.27 | ckknight | :-P |
| 11:11.28 | Fisker- | i'll resort to writing then |
| 11:11.32 | digmouse | bliz will give us some time to update addons :D |
| 11:11.56 | Cairenn | that's why we're doing the keys for authors again |
| 11:12.04 | Fisker- | i disagree |
| 11:12.09 | Fisker- | you just do it for the money |
| 11:12.20 | Scale | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/94001 |
| 11:12.31 | Fisker- | And if you say "...What money?" i'll say it's a global conspiracy |
| 11:12.43 | digmouse | but I dont think I can get 3.0 as u guys |
| 11:13.06 | amro | Scale: self.db.profile.ButtonSize[2] --is this supposed to be 20? |
| 11:13.20 | Cairenn | digmouse: why not? |
| 11:13.59 | Scale | yup |
| 11:14.05 | digmouse | uh u know TBC was pushed back half a year here |
| 11:14.16 | Scale | and it is when i do getwitdh and height |
| 11:14.18 | Cairenn | where is "here"? |
| 11:14.21 | Fisker- | China |
| 11:14.27 | digmouse | Fisker win |
| 11:14.28 | Fisker- | That was only because of the skeletons though, no? |
| 11:14.42 | digmouse | skeletons and some other |
| 11:14.42 | amro | Scale: try replacing it with :SetHeight(20) :SetWidth(20) --i suspect the db isn't saved or initialized properly |
| 11:14.57 | Fisker- | I'm guessing that now they're keeping ahead with the problems |
| 11:15.06 | Fisker- | so i think they'll launch WoW simoultaneously |
| 11:15.09 | Fisker- | could be wrong though :P |
| 11:15.36 | digmouse | and my heart gone cold seeing the skeleton dragon on the login screen |
| 11:15.58 | amro | Scale: as a simple test, add ChatFrame1:AddMessage(self.db.profile.ButtonSize[2]) to be sure |
| 11:16.11 | Fisker- | they'll probably just change it to the default blue dragon |
| 11:16.53 | digmouse | Death Knight is another problem though |
| 11:17.15 | digmouse | I would be pretty happy if they launch it a month after us and eu |
| 11:17.38 | Fisker- | don't worry digmouse |
| 11:17.55 | Fisker- | the way the death knight is headed it won't be long before it's Flower Knight |
| 11:18.23 | Fisker- | Won't be long until Death and Decay is "Flora and Fauna" |
| 11:18.31 | digmouse | maybe will be Ebon Knight who kow *Shurg* |
| 11:18.45 | digmouse | s/kow/knows |
| 11:19.10 | digmouse | purl isnt here? |
| 11:19.33 | Fisker- | Scott Jennings (aka Lum the Mad) and why he feels the subscription-based business model used by many MMOGs is broken. |
| 11:19.34 | Fisker- | lol |
| 11:19.45 | Fisker- | That's like saying Cars are a niché market |
| 11:19.47 | Cairenn | you forgot the trailing / |
| 11:19.57 | digmouse | oops |
| 11:20.28 | Scale | Well button 4 is now normal but the other 3 have disaerped |
| 11:20.30 | Adys | is it possible to get the guid of the merchant Im currently talking to? |
| 11:20.35 | Adys | without comparing unitnames etc |
| 11:20.45 | nevcairiel | UnitGUID("target") ?^^ |
| 11:20.51 | Adys | I can target myself |
| 11:21.11 | digmouse | isn't it every unit's guid can be get by UnitGUID? |
| 11:21.50 | amro | Scale: it could be your ButtonLocs. are you setting those properly? |
| 11:23.38 | Scale | ummm |
| 11:23.46 | Scale | let me check |
| 11:23.53 | amro | Scale: can you pastey your whole lua file? |
| 11:24.34 | Maldivia | Adys: UnitGUID("npc") ? |
| 11:25.04 | nevcairiel | doesnt work Maldivia |
| 11:25.18 | Scale | if i gettop and left i get 107 and 410 |
| 11:25.20 | Maldivia | works fone for me? |
| 11:25.22 | Maldivia | fine* |
| 11:25.50 | nevcairiel | Hm |
| 11:25.52 | nevcairiel | now it works too |
| 11:25.53 | nevcairiel | weird |
| 11:27.53 | Scale | if i use moveanything to move the invisible button it appears and stays even if i reset it |
| 11:28.21 | Lukian | Scale, because moveanything is fail? :) |
| 11:29.03 | Scale | no the button is fail :P |
| 11:29.31 | Scale | moveanything just makes it visible becuase i dont understand why its invisible |
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| 11:30.29 | amro | Scale: you're never making it visible? button:Show() |
| 11:32.27 | Scale | i did isvisible and it returns 1 lol |
| 11:32.57 | Scale | and :Show() does nothing |
| 11:33.50 | amro | then you've probably positioned it offscreen |
| 11:33.59 | amro | check where you're anchoring the buttons |
| 11:34.24 | amro | I'd use hardcoded values to start, and only use SavedVariables when I know the code works |
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| 11:38.27 | Scale | yup |
| 11:38.29 | Scale | you got it |
| 11:38.36 | Scale | i dont know what the problem is |
| 11:38.43 | Scale | but if i remove the SetPoint |
| 11:38.51 | Scale | they all reappear |
| 11:41.31 | Scale | So if i dont use anchors they wont move with the frame its attached to right? |
| 11:43.38 | amro | Scale: yep, you'll want to anchor them to something |
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| 11:46.27 | Scale | Could you have a look at the anchor code to see why it isnt working properly? its the last 4 lines of the pastebin |
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| 12:00.33 | Vangual | are there any common ways to barebones debugging the new secure handlers, like enabling print of some sort? |
| 12:01.30 | Maldivia | make your secure state handler a ChatFrame, show it, and call AddMessage on it? |
| 12:02.02 | Vangual | ah, good idea, I'll try that |
| 12:02.08 | Vangual | thanks :) |
| 12:03.06 | Maldivia | there are probably other ways aswell, but that should eliminate taint issues |
| 12:04.03 | Vangual | i'm not even sure currently if i adopted the right frames to each other and the actual code is being called :/ |
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| 12:07.35 | Vangual | hmm, self.AddMessage is nil within an _execute of a frame inheriting frome ChatFrameTemplate (amongst others) |
| 12:08.08 | nevcairiel | You cant access the original frame |
| 12:08.08 | Maldivia | what's the type? |
| 12:08.15 | Maldivia | "Frame" or "ScrollingFrame" ? |
| 12:08.24 | Vangual | frame |
| 12:08.30 | Maldivia | that would be the reason |
| 12:08.42 | nevcairiel | _execute only gives you a restricted frame environment |
| 12:08.46 | nevcairiel | cant access the :AddMessage |
| 12:09.24 | Vangual | nevcairiel: any other idea how to get debugging info back to the visible ui then nev? |
| 12:09.47 | nevcairiel | :SetAttribute("debuginfo", "text here") |
| 12:09.56 | nevcairiel | and :GetAttribute in unprotected code |
| 12:10.07 | Vangual | oh uhm, doh. |
| 12:10.15 | Maldivia | hmm, looks like print is available |
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| 12:10.36 | Maldivia | hmm, nevermind |
| 12:10.44 | Maldivia | it's just listed in the restricted file |
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| 12:13.16 | Vangual | nevcairiel: thanks, that was too obvious. |
| 12:13.28 | Maldivia | hmm, the restricted enviroment is to make it so, that you can't get any outside information, that the env. doesn't want you to get? |
| 12:13.41 | nevcairiel | yup |
| 12:13.50 | nevcairiel | only way to talk to the outside is through :SetAttribute |
| 12:14.03 | nevcairiel | and only strings and numbers |
| 12:14.32 | Hjalte | cladhaire: Some problems with DTK r12: I'm not sure if it just didnt get to my staff, but it chose to equip me with my mining pick and a healer off-hand when using a hit/atk/crit set (found in the comments of dtk) - It also gave me this error and then seemed to stop: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/94008 |
| 12:15.00 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 12:15.05 | cladhaire | still have the session open? |
| 12:15.11 | cladhaire | i.e. haven't reloaded? |
| 12:15.15 | Hjalte | cladhaire: Yes |
| 12:15.20 | cladhaire | run /dress debug |
| 12:15.20 | Hjalte | Still the same session. |
| 12:15.37 | cladhaire | and take a screenshot of the end of the log, and post it somewhere (http://images.gammatester.com) |
| 12:16.08 | nevcairiel | Anyone know of a simple wardrobe/outfitter addon that works on beta yet? |
| 12:16.18 | nevcairiel | not outfitter itself, its too complicated for me =P |
| 12:16.25 | cladhaire | closetgnome not work? |
| 12:16.41 | nevcairiel | not exactly |
| 12:16.51 | nevcairiel | it forgets all your items once you level up |
| 12:16.58 | nevcairiel | due to the player level being in the item string |
| 12:17.01 | cladhaire | umm |
| 12:17.03 | cladhaire | thats... weird |
| 12:17.15 | nevcairiel | It just stores the full item string |
| 12:17.27 | nevcairiel | maybe i should just try to patch that up |
| 12:17.39 | cladhaire | heh |
| 12:17.50 | Hjalte | cladhaire: http://www.hjalte.com/WoWScrnShot_081708_141545.jpg |
| 12:18.17 | cladhaire | can you scroll up and see the scores for the weapons? |
| 12:18.20 | cladhaire | and i'll try to look into this error. |
| 12:18.28 | Cairenn | nevcairiel: what about itemrack? http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10175-ItemRackWotLK.html l |
| 12:18.57 | nevcairiel | too complicated too, imho. I dont want fancy event/script handling, just simple item sets :D |
| 12:19.03 | nevcairiel | Guess i'll patch ClosetGnome |
| 12:19.38 | Vangual | the event stuff in itemrack is completely optional |
| 12:19.39 | cladhaire | Hjalte: interesting, I can fix that just not sure how to |
| 12:19.51 | cladhaire | oh |
| 12:19.52 | cladhaire | lol |
| 12:19.57 | cladhaire | done and done, will commit that fix in a second |
| 12:20.02 | cladhaire | lets look at why your wep got chosen |
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| 12:20.09 | nevcairiel | Oh they finally added a queue to the EU beta server |
| 12:20.15 | nevcairiel | i hope its usable once i get in |
| 12:20.18 | Hjalte | cladhaire: The weapons span more than one screenshot, you really need to put it out to a frame that one can copy from :) |
| 12:20.34 | cladhaire | hrm i'm not really sure how to |
| 12:20.49 | cladhaire | i could add a button that opens up an editbox maybe |
| 12:20.49 | nevcairiel | just a multiline edit box? |
| 12:20.50 | cladhaire | well |
| 12:21.01 | cladhaire | Hjalte: well you should be able to see from the scores whats happening |
| 12:21.04 | cladhaire | maybe you can summarize. |
| 12:23.16 | Hjalte | cladhaire: Mining Pick and Eye of Paleth got 146 when combined while my feral staff got 29. |
| 12:23.23 | Hjalte | points. |
| 12:23.28 | Hjalte | which is clearly wrong |
| 12:23.54 | cladhaire | possibly |
| 12:23.58 | cladhaire | what did mining pick get score wise? |
| 12:24.00 | cladhaire | and what did the eye get? |
| 12:24.07 | cladhaire | and what function are you using? :P |
| 12:25.35 | Hjalte | cladhaire: Mining pick got 3 points when alone. I'll post you the screenshots, it looks a little weird to me. |
| 12:25.42 | cladhaire | it may be |
| 12:25.42 | cladhaire | :P |
| 12:25.53 | cladhaire | that stuff got dry-coded yesterday and "fixed" today |
| 12:26.40 | Hjalte | cladhaire: http://www.hjalte.com/WoWScrnShot_081708_142358.jpg and http://www.hjalte.com/WoWScrnShot_081708_142407.jpg |
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| 12:27.45 | cladhaire | give me a few and I'll try to figute it out. |
| 12:27.46 | Hjalte | cladhaire: Using this set: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/94009 |
| 12:27.50 | cladhaire | I'll have to look at the code |
| 12:28.14 | cladhaire | adding a copy log button as well |
| 12:29.36 | cladhaire | anyone have easy code to create a multi line edit box for copy/pasting |
| 12:29.42 | cladhaire | or know where there's code that does that laying around? |
| 12:30.12 | cladhaire | nevcairiel: ? :P |
| 12:30.31 | nevcairiel | check AddonLoader on wowace svn |
| 12:30.45 | cladhaire | it has one in the options |
| 12:30.50 | cladhaire | was more looking for a popup one |
| 12:30.53 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 12:30.55 | nevcairiel | uhm |
| 12:33.58 | Hjalte | cladhaire: Chatter does a popup copy frame. |
| 12:34.05 | cladhaire | hrm, link to chatter? |
| 12:34.08 | cladhaire | does it handle multi-line |
| 12:34.12 | cladhaire | or is it just a single line? |
| 12:34.13 | Hjalte | cladhaire: Yes |
| 12:34.18 | Hjalte | Multi-line |
| 12:34.18 | cladhaire | oh great! |
| 12:34.23 | Hjalte | files.wowace.com |
| 12:34.33 | Hjalte | It's somewhere there :) |
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| 13:29.43 | zenzelezz | my intarwebs... thay are down |
| 13:30.28 | haste | oh rly? |
| 13:30.49 | zenzelezz | well, hiccups at least |
| 13:37.42 | |pez| | your ISP, does it suck? |
| 13:38.07 | Mikk | your english, is it yoda? |
| 13:38.18 | |pez| | sometimes! |
| 13:38.33 | |pez| | zenzelezz: if you've got NGT, you can call em, but it's rather pricey. :P |
| 13:38.40 | |pez| | being a sunday and all |
| 13:39.53 | zenzelezz | my ISP is actually usually pretty stable, but they've been having issues lately... think they messed something up when they were doing something to one of the centrals in this area a little bit ago |
| 13:40.54 | |pez| | It's human to make flaws. |
| 13:41.01 | |pez| | or, do flaws |
| 13:41.04 | |pez| | hurr |
| 13:41.08 | |pez| | make mistakes! |
| 13:41.50 | zenzelezz | hehe |
| 13:42.08 | |pez| | I think I just proved my own point though. |
| 13:43.09 | zenzelezz | when they introduced ADSL in this area about seven or eight years ago the central was totally fucked. Then they fixed it, and a month later they managed to move our connection to a central that didn't have ADSL yet. Now we have cable though, and it's been pretty good so far |
| 13:46.18 | |pez| | I've had NGT since the beginning of my ADSL life. |
| 13:46.26 | |pez| | I'm rather happy with their services. |
| 13:48.40 | zenzelezz | I was very satisfied with our ADSL connection, but our cable-TV provider came up with an offer where we got about 4 Mbit more download speed and almost eight times faster upload than the ADSL, at the same price |
| 13:49.01 | |pez| | that's sweet! |
| 13:49.10 | |pez| | We can't get anymore where we are. physical limitations. |
| 13:49.28 | zenzelezz | I think it's basically the same provider, just a different subcompany.... can't remember for sure |
| 13:49.31 | |pez| | or else we'd have the bestest ADSL2+ here, for like.. 200something NOK |
| 13:49.41 | zenzelezz | :-o |
| 13:50.02 | |pez| | the perks of having a boyfriend who works at your ISP ;P |
| 13:50.24 | zenzelezz | my workplace actually pays my Internet |
| 13:52.09 | |pez| | well, the bf does't work for the ISP itself, but a... vikarbyrå (Adecco) |
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| 14:22.11 | zenzelezz | afternoon, peppy |
| 14:22.25 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, zenzelezz! |
| 14:47.00 | foxlit | http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw16709.jpg |
| 14:47.03 | foxlit | <3 HURD |
| 14:48.51 | Stanzilla | foxlit: is that an addon or a concept? |
| 14:50.20 | Stanzilla | oh nvm, found it |
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| 14:55.40 | JunkHead | Hey, can anyone help me with Totem Timers? |
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| 15:10.41 | Lopeppeppy | What specifically do you need help with about them, JunkHead? |
| 15:18.22 | JunkHead | I just now figured it out. |
| 15:19.06 | Lopeppeppy | *smile* Awesome. |
| 15:21.16 | wereHamster | Stanzilla: which addon is it? |
| 15:21.59 | Stanzilla | wereHamster: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10293-TFScoreboard.html |
| 15:27.14 | wereHamster | thanks |
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| 15:55.59 | DARKGuy | Lopeppeppy: is it good? |
| 15:57.18 | Lopeppeppy | It is not bad. I'm not having a problem. |
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| 16:12.16 | DARKGuy | Lopeppeppy: good for you :p |
| 16:12.55 | Lopeppeppy | I also have SP1, where most of the people who developed Vista hate had it from the buggy get-go. |
| 16:13.18 | JunkHead | I use vista also. |
| 16:13.57 | Lopeppeppy | I learned from Lunessa and the Wow forums. Don't install WoW in program files. Open the ports. Profit. |
| 16:13.59 | DARKGuy | I put SP1 on mine, but since the soundcard drivers for it are crap, I just moved to Linux while I get some free time to go back to XP |
| 16:14.18 | nevcairiel | I dont install any games in my program files, nor C: in general :) |
| 16:14.25 | nevcairiel | vista is running smooth for me |
| 16:14.28 | nevcairiel | with UAC off =P |
| 16:14.43 | DARKGuy | I used vLite on mine - no UAC or WDefender or any of that crap :D |
| 16:14.50 | DARKGuy | and SP1 slipstreamed ^^ |
| 16:15.26 | nevcairiel | SP1 is not slip-streamable, except with ugly hacking, and i dont trust that to be stable =P |
| 16:15.43 | DARKGuy | well, it's stable on mine, the soundcard drivers just suck, damn Creative |
| 16:16.08 | Lopeppeppy | It did hardlock on my most complex wow character, but I'll also try it again later when I'm not in a rush. If I can farm on the laptop, I'm happy. |
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| 16:20.32 | DARKGuy | Haha. |
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| 16:20.36 | DARKGuy | XP wouldn't lock it :P |
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| 17:15.13 | Anaral | Okay, I know blood is the best tree for leveling, but what are essential talents within it? |
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| 17:22.55 | Duman | to minimize downtime? probably bloodworms |
| 17:23.02 | Duman | lots of good stuff tho |
| 17:23.16 | Duman | Vendetta |
| 17:23.18 | Anaral | Aye, I love my bloodworms |
| 17:23.46 | Anaral | This is my current build http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deathknight=23013215330303105030051010400000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 |
| 17:24.28 | Duman | are you really using Rune Tap that much? I almost never do |
| 17:24.35 | Duman | thus, not sure how worth Imp. RT is |
| 17:25.01 | Duman | maybe toss those 3 in Bladed armor or even blade barrier (avoid dmg) |
| 17:25.19 | Duman | oh, toss a pt in bloom rune mastery |
| 17:25.23 | Duman | blood |
| 17:25.50 | Anaral | I blazed through the talents last night, so I haven't really used any of it. |
| 17:26.16 | Duman | oh dude |
| 17:26.22 | Duman | you totally skipped Abom. Might |
| 17:27.12 | Duman | I should play w/ Sudden Doom some more |
| 17:27.20 | Duman | I've been skipping it recently |
| 17:27.26 | Anaral | What? Might of Mograine? |
| 17:27.39 | Anaral | I don't see Abom. Might on there. |
| 17:27.45 | Duman | Abomination's Might |
| 17:27.52 | Duman | next to Bloody Vengeance |
| 17:27.56 | Anaral | Ah found it |
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| 17:29.14 | Anaral | Scent of Blood worth it? |
| 17:30.33 | Anaral | I also skipped a few talents to get points in Blood Gorged. |
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| 17:36.34 | cogwheel | why do plaguelands quests make me want to gouge my eyes out? /grr |
| 17:36.41 | Anaral | Heh |
| 17:36.45 | Duman | stop doing them :) |
| 17:37.13 | Anaral | Aye, go straight to Outlands. |
| 17:37.19 | cogwheel | i'm 54 |
| 17:37.52 | nevcairiel | 4 more levels, you can do it |
| 17:37.55 | nevcairiel | ! |
| 17:38.45 | cogwheel | but i mean seriosuly... a level 55 quest shouldn't be all 57-59 mobs... |
| 17:39.30 | cogwheel | with like a 25% drop rate and you need 15 of them >< |
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| 17:40.03 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 17:40.06 | nevcairiel | which quest was that |
| 17:40.14 | cogwheel | defenders of darrowshire |
| 17:40.21 | nevcairiel | maybe you have the wrong mobs? |
| 17:40.26 | cogwheel | nope |
| 17:40.51 | nevcairiel | the dropchance of those was 100% iirc |
| 17:40.54 | nevcairiel | but the mobs are rare |
| 17:41.00 | nevcairiel | you just do it while doing other quests |
| 17:41.02 | nevcairiel | *shrug |
| 17:41.30 | cogwheel | then you have all the damned diseases... |
| 17:41.37 | cogwheel | 1/2 hour of -50 attack power |
| 17:41.41 | Duman | 30m disease = WTF |
| 17:41.42 | cogwheel | 10 minutes of -10% hit rate |
| 17:42.09 | Duman | defenders of darrowshire should be 100% |
| 17:42.17 | Duman | you're killing the wrong mobs if thye are not spawning ghosts |
| 17:42.31 | Duman | (and don't forget to talk to the ghost) |
| 17:42.39 | cogwheel | i may be combining quests in my mind |
| 17:42.50 | Duman | oh, haha |
| 17:43.01 | cogwheel | the "right" level mobs for darrowshire are surrounded by >level |
| 17:43.13 | cogwheel | and the carrion worm meat has an ass-sucking drop rate |
| 17:43.24 | cogwheel | at least when you combine it with needing 15 |
| 17:44.26 | Fisker- | cogwheel |
| 17:51.38 | Duman | boo |
| 17:51.46 | Duman | northrend poof again |
| 17:52.14 | Gnarfoz | pff play on Coldarra and complain then |
| 17:52.23 | cogwheel | wtf... i gained an entire level before finishing a single quest in this zone |
| 17:52.34 | Duman | lol |
| 17:52.39 | Duman | you playing on live or wrath? |
| 17:52.45 | cogwheel | live |
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| 17:55.41 | Duman | oops, now it looks like northrend is completely down |
| 17:55.51 | Duman | oh there it goes |
| 17:55.52 | Duman | weird |
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| 18:11.11 | DARKGuy | has anybody here played gears of war online? is it crappy, slow, and ... null ? |
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| 18:18.57 | kd3 | yay! the world server's been fixed |
| 18:19.01 | kd3 | finally, ported to theramore |
| 18:19.46 | Gnarfoz | nice |
| 18:19.47 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
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| 19:29.44 | Tem | Cairenn|afk, you pinged me? |
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| 19:32.39 | Duman | there is some serious gear stat issues in beta |
| 19:32.47 | Duman | my crit can fluctuate all over the place |
| 19:32.47 | Tem | Duman, like? |
| 19:32.51 | Tem | oh |
| 19:33.02 | Duman | well, the gear I'm wearing should be +275 crit rating |
| 19:33.15 | Duman | btu right now, the game claims I have 291 |
| 19:33.25 | Duman | and if I swap in/out my helm, i get 328 |
| 19:33.44 | Duman | if I swap a piec eof gear that DOES NOT have crit, it resets to 275 |
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| 19:47.22 | Tem | Duman, odd |
| 19:50.04 | ccox|sleep | OMG - I think I just broke the auction house on Lich King |
| 19:50.21 | DARKGuy | haha |
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| 19:51.03 | ccox | it just said I won an auction for.., well, everything in the AH |
| 19:51.12 | ccox | and I was posting, not buying! |
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| 19:55.53 | ccox | all that stuff it said I won -- is in my mailbox |
| 19:56.07 | End | so, are you rich item wise? |
| 19:56.09 | ccox | but it's only about 1/4 of the stuff that was in the AH |
| 19:56.13 | DARKGuy | oh ow. |
| 19:56.15 | DARKGuy | wow. |
| 19:57.07 | ccox | sigh, mostly low level crap - I was hoping for new stuff I could DE |
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| 19:58.41 | ccox | Why can't Blizzard's bugs shower me with high level gear!? |
| 19:58.51 | Jagannath | Lol. |
| 19:59.00 | End | because then they'd have to fix the bug |
| 19:59.07 | End | this way they can leave the bug in |
| 19:59.20 | ccox | hmm, maybe I should go post a few more auctions.... |
| 19:59.37 | Jagannath | Try some epic posts lol. |
| 20:00.45 | ccox | if I were on a normal server, I would be about 80g richer in enchant mats, plus 25g in stone and herbs |
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| 20:02.05 | ccox | but no, here eternal essence and nether essence are pretty much worthless |
| 20:04.19 | ccox | hmm, more disappeared from the AH than what I got |
| 20:04.38 | ccox | I wonder who else got rich? |
| 20:05.44 | ccox | I also wonder if they do some AH processing only when there is a transaction (to avoid timers), and my posting just cleared some internal log jam? |
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| 20:07.43 | Duman | hmm |
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| 20:10.10 | DARKGuy | load aud.pl |
| 20:10.12 | DARKGuy | oops. |
| 20:11.07 | ccox | AH is now 121 items / 3 pages |
| 20:11.16 | ccox | AH was closer to 9 pages earlier |
| 20:19.52 | Scale | What do you guys use to write addons? I ussually use crimson editor but it doesnt auto format which makes me forget end tags etc |
| 20:21.26 | Iriel | I use emacs, but i'm strange. |
| 20:21.28 | ccox | BBEdit/TextWrangler, CodeWarrior, or GnuEmacs |
| 20:21.34 | Iriel | I think lots of folks like scite |
| 20:24.20 | foxlit | textmate/notepad |
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| 20:35.35 | Fisker- | how can you get the current scale? |
| 20:35.38 | Fisker- | and how can you set it? |
| 20:35.56 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:39.59 | Pneumatus | confirming dis |
| 20:40.12 | Pneumatus | SetCVar("UIScale", 1) |
| 20:42.55 | Fisker- | damn my wow is screwed |
| 20:43.02 | Anaral | Oh? |
| 20:44.22 | Fisker- | http://i37.tinypic.com/sg2tsg.jpg |
| 20:44.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Reload |
| 20:45.04 | Fisker- | it keeps happening |
| 20:45.43 | Pneumatus | untick "use ui scale"? |
| 20:45.52 | Pneumatus | then drag the slider? |
| 20:46.06 | haste | Fisker-: delete skinner, and its solved! |
| 20:46.11 | Fisker- | oh u haste |
| 20:46.12 | Scale | mm has anybody ever had the problem that all borders of every addon dissear? |
| 20:46.16 | Fisker- | you got a 8800GTS haste ? |
| 20:46.21 | Fisker- | or 8800GT |
| 20:46.22 | Stanzilla | I blame skinner |
| 20:46.23 | haste | no, 7900GT |
| 20:46.23 | Fisker- | or similar? |
| 20:46.28 | Fisker- | giev me your config.wtf |
| 20:46.35 | haste | I run LINUX |
| 20:46.39 | Fisker- | fuck you |
| 20:46.40 | haste | you don't want it :p |
| 20:46.48 | haste | it's everything on low |
| 20:46.55 | haste | and opengl |
| 20:51.56 | DARKGuy | try UIFaster "2" |
| 20:51.57 | DARKGuy | or something |
| 20:52.04 | DARKGuy | there's something to disable UI hw accel |
| 20:52.06 | DARKGuy | or something |
| 20:52.09 | DARKGuy | it might help? |
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| 20:54.48 | Scale | mmm i disabled all addons except for 1 and all the borders are still gone (i even switched the 1 enabled to another to see it that was it but it isnt) |
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| 21:12.49 | Fisker- | is there an addon i can use to profile addon performance? |
| 21:13.13 | Anaral | (SL)DataText. |
| 21:15.10 | ccox | Fisker - there is a !Profiler, and KLHPerformanceMonitor2 |
| 21:15.55 | Fisker- | link the first one |
| 21:16.26 | ccox | Fisker - I don't remember where I got them from, just do a google search |
| 21:17.17 | Fisker- | since it ignores ! that's pretty hard |
| 21:18.52 | ccox | yep |
| 21:19.09 | Fisker- | i just hate when you're right haste |
| 21:19.20 | haste | :D:D:DD:DD:D |
| 21:19.24 | haste | skinner is aids |
| 21:19.33 | haste | and cancer, all at once! |
| 21:19.45 | Fisker- | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:19.52 | Fisker- | by disabling it |
| 21:20.00 | Fisker- | but something is up |
| 21:20.14 | Fisker- | WoW only has 2 cores as affinity |
| 21:20.16 | Kirov | The most awesome part about my quote in the topic is I actually don't have a blizzcon ticket |
| 21:20.22 | Fisker- | putting it to 4 gives it a 10 FPS upgrade |
| 21:20.40 | KautionTape | Still looking for !Profiler -> http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/7934/ |
| 21:20.40 | KautionTape | Dunno if it's up to date, though |
| 21:33.58 | Fisker- | anyone got a the TBC slim downloader for engb? |
| 21:40.02 | haste | it's on wirebrain |
| 21:40.27 | Fisker- | isn't that only the torrent? |
| 21:41.22 | haste | that and megaupload + rapidshare |
| 21:41.43 | Fisker- | yeah nothing like rapidshit |
| 21:41.43 | Fisker- | wee |
| 21:41.48 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 21:42.20 | haste | it's quite okey now that they don't have the FAIL captcha |
| 21:42.32 | haste | anyway, the torrent is fast |
| 21:42.34 | Fisker- | fuck you |
| 21:42.37 | Fisker- | the dog is awesome |
| 21:42.52 | Fisker- | Nothing like retrying several times just to be blocked from downloading |
| 21:43.10 | Fisker- | Especially when they have that "Upgrade to premium now!" just below |
| 21:44.22 | Fisker- | i'll destroy you if TBC isn't downloaded by tomorrow haste |
| 21:44.28 | Fisker- | irl btw |
| 21:45.05 | haste | I fetched 2.0 + TBC + pathes + beta + patches in one day |
| 21:45.14 | haste | you shouldn't have an issue :p |
| 21:45.25 | haste | read night |
| 21:46.19 | Fisker- | oh and btw haste |
| 21:46.23 | Fisker- | tomorrow is in 15 minutes |
| 21:46.39 | haste | fail Fisker- |
| 21:46.43 | haste | get a better connection |
| 21:46.46 | Fisker- | you're a dead man haste |
| 21:46.48 | Fisker- | DEAD |
| 21:46.59 | haste | lies |
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| 22:21.00 | Tem | Is there really not an addon to help with ZA timed event? |
| 22:22.17 | haste | how would it help? |
| 22:22.26 | haste | you already have a timer in-game |
| 22:23.11 | Matrix110 | Like a hmmm Arrow that shows you the way! |
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| 22:25.08 | Arrowmaster | once you attempt it a few times you know the pace you need to go at anyway |
| 22:25.54 | Tem | now, I mean to show you a more precise time |
| 22:26.03 | cbreak | I've attempted it many times, and some people never learn to get into melee range when the storm comes :( |
| 22:26.10 | Tem | s/now/no/ |
| 22:26.11 | haste | Matrix110: I'm sure that lots of people will enjoy that feature when 3.0 hits! |
| 22:26.24 | haste | do you really need that :p ? |
| 22:26.24 | Tem | we're very close to our bears |
| 22:26.32 | Tem | we were about a minute short last time |
| 22:26.58 | Tem | I just wanted a better timer |
| 22:27.22 | Arrowmaster | youd probably have to check the api to see if you even can get a more precise time |
| 22:27.40 | Matrix110 | You would still fail with a more precise time so whats the point ? :P |
| 22:27.49 | Tem | just to see |
| 22:28.09 | Arrowmaster | wish i still had a group to do ZA with |
| 22:28.18 | Arrowmaster | we were 10 minutes ahead of the timer last run |
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| 22:31.02 | Duman | hmm |
| 22:32.01 | |pez| | Oh, I hate this, I'm thinking about applying for school, and... well, the course I'm wanting to take is not approved by the people giving out studentloans and scholarships. :P |
| 22:33.21 | g0urra | Does it involve tentacle monsters? |
| 22:33.34 | |pez| | g0urra: No. :P |
| 22:33.40 | g0urra | =( |
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| 22:37.40 | Duman | ckknight: ping? |
| 22:40.07 | Duman | anyone else here using Carto3 (on beta)? |
| 22:40.25 | Kirov | I am |
| 22:40.37 | Duman | Whenever I 'discover' an area in Northrend, it is not revealed on the map unless I reload the UI |
| 22:41.25 | Anaral | I am Duman |
| 22:41.30 | Anaral | Aye |
| 22:41.32 | Duman | anyone else seeing that issue? :) |
| 22:41.33 | Neuro_Medivh | I thought you were Anarel? |
| 22:41.35 | Duman | ahh, k |
| 22:41.37 | Neuro_Medivh | er, Anaral |
| 22:41.40 | Duman | lol |
| 22:41.41 | Anaral | lol |
| 22:41.48 | Duman | no, *I* am Duman! |
| 22:41.49 | Neuro_Medivh | I am Spartacus! |
| 22:42.07 | Anaral | It's a known issue, I think. |
| 22:42.16 | Duman | ahh, kewl |
| 22:42.32 | Anaral | I just have it split between both the blizz map and cart. |
| 22:42.46 | Duman | heh |
| 22:42.52 | Duman | I jsut reload the ui every now and then ;-) |
| 22:43.10 | Duman | altho there is something wonky w/ the xperl placement of the player frame (at least, for DK), and it moves when I reload |
| 22:43.17 | Anaral | Can anyone please help me with a macro? |
| 22:43.35 | Duman | can't unless you say what the macro is :) |
| 22:44.01 | Anaral | I have the addon Blazing Saddles, which lets you create mount/critter macros. http://www.pastey.net/94039 I can get it to mount, but not dismount. |
| 22:44.23 | Duman | btw, you know you can use /cast again - at least for mounts |
| 22:44.28 | Duman | have you tested it for pets? :) |
| 22:44.48 | Duman | ie, change your /mount to /cast |
| 22:45.20 | g0urra | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:45.21 | Anaral | Cool, /cast works |
| 22:45.28 | Duman | yeah, i think you can ditch that addon |
| 22:45.29 | Anaral | But how do I dismount? |
| 22:45.37 | g0urra | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:45.42 | Duman | ^^ |
| 22:45.52 | Anaral | Lol |
| 22:46.01 | Anaral | The most obvious solution. ;) |
| 22:46.05 | Duman | altho, technically, it should dismount if you hit the macro again, since casting it if it's already cast will dismount you |
| 22:47.19 | Anaral | It doesn't |
| 22:47.29 | Anaral | But /dismount does work, so yeah. |
| 22:48.03 | Anaral | So for pets, to cast a random pet would it be /castrandom? |
| 22:48.11 | Iriel | yes |
| 22:48.12 | DARKGuy | this is hilarios and awesome at the same time, worth the watch -> http://alanbecker.deviantart.com/art/Animator-vs-Animation-34244097 |
| 22:48.15 | Duman | you'd have to list them all, tho |
| 22:48.15 | DARKGuy | :D |
| 22:48.17 | Duman | no? |
| 22:48.41 | Anaral | Well that's what you have to do anyways. |
| 22:48.59 | Duman | yeah, but that addon let you just do a random among all your pets ;) |
| 22:49.02 | Duman | at least, I think it did |
| 22:49.42 | Anaral | Not the latest version... or I am wrong, and I did the list because I don't want to display some of my pets. |
| 22:49.56 | jaxdahl | do /userandom to save one more letter :p |
| 22:50.04 | Anaral | Heh |
| 22:51.54 | Anaral | Okay, back to the mount macro. How would I show the flying machine in Outlands and Northrend? Currently I have '#showtooltip [flyable] Great Purple Elekk; Turbo-Charged Flying Machine' but doesn't work |
| 22:52.14 | jaxdahl | flip it around and use noflyable |
| 22:52.16 | Duman | I don't think you can do that with the showtooltip thing |
| 22:52.19 | Duman | can you? |
| 22:52.43 | [dRaCo] | Anaral: just use #showtooltip |
| 22:52.45 | Anaral | I know you can in 2.4 |
| 22:52.50 | Duman | I thought |
| 22:52.51 | Duman | yeah, that |
| 22:52.57 | [dRaCo] | it'll show the according icon |
| 22:53.02 | Duman | I thoguht it will show the tooltip of the ability that would work given the conditions |
| 22:53.09 | Duman | (automatically) |
| 22:53.11 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
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| 22:54.54 | Duman | jeez, necrosis + BCB = wow |
| 22:56.36 | Xuerian | BCB? |
| 22:56.38 | Anaral | Well now it's broke... |
| 22:56.50 | Duman | Blood-Caked Blade |
| 22:56.51 | Anaral | Wait, nm |
| 22:57.03 | Anaral | Forgot, major cities are broken |
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| 23:00.38 | Anaral | Okay, so macro works in Azeroth, but it does not show any icon at all.... |
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| 23:01.13 | Shirik | Anaral: What's the macro? |
| 23:01.44 | Anaral | http://www.pastey.net/94042 |
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| 23:02.17 | Duman | what happens if you take out the stopmacro |
| 23:02.19 | Duman | (as a test) |
| 23:02.41 | Anaral | Just did. Nothing, it's unneeded. |
| 23:02.59 | Duman | well, it would just prevent an error message ;) |
| 23:03.01 | Shirik | Just add #show [flyable, nomounted, button:1] Turbo-Charged Flying Machine; [nomounted, button:2] Great Purple Elekk |
| 23:03.28 | Duman | hmm, guess i was wrong... I thought it would pick the correct icon based on the condition already |
| 23:03.42 | Duman | anaral: did you set the macro to use the first icon? (the ? ) |
| 23:03.43 | Anaral | Shirik: No change... |
| 23:04.21 | Anaral | I set it to the ? which is what it is showing. ;) |
| 23:04.40 | Shirik | Anaral: Then you should consider looking for an updated bar mod |
| 23:04.49 | Shirik | There is no reason it shouldn't accept that override |
| 23:04.55 | Anaral | Um, I'm using the default blizz... |
| 23:05.07 | Shirik | then you should get a non-crappy blizzard bar :D |
| 23:05.18 | Duman | lol |
| 23:05.20 | Anaral | Heh |
| 23:07.52 | Shirik | Anaral: Are you sure you picked the ? icon? |
| 23:07.57 | Shirik | I can't see any good reason against that |
| 23:08.23 | Anaral | Yes. |
| 23:12.32 | Anaral | I think I may have figured it out and it's a whole lot shorter than what I have now. |
| 23:12.50 | Anaral | Woot, it worked. |
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| 23:13.44 | Anaral | Just LINE1 #showtooltip LINE2 /cast [flyable] <flyer>; <ground> |
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| 23:37.16 | Cairenn | sweet dreams Kirkburn|sleep |
| 23:37.49 | Kirkburn|sleep | Night! :) |
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| 23:59.45 | kd3 | c'mon fay! nail us! we need the rain |
