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| 00:15.07 | Hirsute | So, anyone had any luck using Riding Crops on their mounts in the Beta? |
| 00:15.11 | ccox | nope |
| 00:15.46 | ccox | but that could be because I can't mount in cities, and I spend my time at AH and banks |
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| 00:16.54 | Hirsute | Yeah, I'm heading out of IF right now to see if it can work. |
| 00:17.06 | Hirsute | I'm not incredibly happy about the change from trinket to enchant.... |
| 00:17.15 | Hirsute | I imagine LWers are, though. |
| 00:17.45 | sacarasc | means i'll have to buy another one, which i'm not too keen about |
| 00:18.00 | Corrodias | for some people, it means they'll need 4 or more |
| 00:18.01 | Hirsute | I'll have to buy a *lot* of them. |
| 00:18.13 | Hirsute | I'm going to need, so far, to buy 6 more. |
| 00:18.17 | Corrodias | i'm -very- surprised blizzard would do something like that |
| 00:18.22 | sacarasc | i only use 2 mounts, i have a bunch more just never use them |
| 00:19.21 | Corrodias | well, okay. i'm not too surprised, really. |
| 00:19.32 | Corrodias | i just don't approve ;P |
| 00:20.22 | Industrial | wee http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10390-idWarlockDeleteShards.html |
| 00:20.50 | Kaso | http://i33.tinypic.com/2hz4u3c.png |
| 00:20.56 | Kaso | UI design at its finest |
| 00:21.19 | Industrial | lol Kaso |
| 00:21.27 | cbreak | I ... am usure. |
| 00:21.47 | Mikk | That's a Yes/No prompt, turdburgler |
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| 00:22.04 | Mikk | Or "Stop"/"Cancel" |
| 00:22.10 | leethal | Kaso: I'd go with the X in the corner |
| 00:22.17 | cbreak | looks like Cancel/Cancel to me |
| 00:22.22 | Industrial | how about |
| 00:22.22 | Mikk | idd... |
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| 00:22.23 | Corrodias | Mikk: okay, so which is which? |
| 00:22.26 | leethal | or perhaps the weird green thingie in the top left corner |
| 00:22.27 | Industrial | No/Maybe |
| 00:22.28 | Industrial | :D |
| 00:22.33 | cbreak | maybe! |
| 00:22.43 | Mikk | Corrodias: Fuck if I know! Hence turdburglery! :P |
| 00:23.11 | Mikk | More addons should have UI via chat tbh. |
| 00:23.14 | Kaso | clearlys the standard gtk cancel/continue but someone was clever and thought! "AHA but by continuing we are cancelling so lets label the continue button cancel!" |
| 00:23.27 | Kaso | Genius! the other members of the dev team cried |
| 00:23.27 | Mikk | Like... "X happened. [Do Y] [Show Config]." |
| 00:24.04 | Mikk | idWarlockDeleteShards is such an addon imo! |
| 00:24.21 | Mikk | (Cause there really ARE times when you want more shards than your shardbag can hold!) |
| 00:24.30 | Mikk | But a full config UI is.. em.. ott! |
| 00:24.56 | cbreak | "Cancel all running transfers?" Cancel/Continue |
| 00:25.14 | cbreak | cancel would cancel the canceling, therefore continuing the transfers I guess :) |
| 00:25.30 | Mikk | ~shoot cbreak |
| 00:25.30 | purl | ACTION shoots cbreak in the ear with a phase pistol! |
| 00:25.47 | cbreak | I am phaser immune |
| 00:25.51 | Mikk | damnit |
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| 01:03.03 | Corrodias | well, this is odd. blizzard's flash video player on the d3 site doesn't actually -play- the video, now. it worked before i updated my browser, flash plugin, and stuff |
| 01:03.42 | Corrodias | the wonderful world of the web strikes again |
| 01:06.57 | Corrodias | well. it's just the little ones for the videos of the abilities. well, whatever. |
| 01:07.19 | ScytheBlade1 | I -hates- it |
| 01:08.30 | Industrial | the interface, the platform, actionscript 3? |
| 01:08.36 | Industrial | the shitty ads? |
| 01:08.54 | Industrial | funny video streams? |
| 01:09.28 | Xuerian | Oh for more divx streams |
| 01:09.34 | Kaso | Would you have an alternative web tech to replace it, or would you prefer the web without it? |
| 01:09.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Without. |
| 01:10.17 | Corrodias | i want everything to be flash. EVERYTHING. MUAHAHAHAHA |
| 01:10.20 | erikd | is there a version of fubar that works with beta? i've been looking for a good hour and can't find a definitive answer |
| 01:10.28 | ccox | divx? Why would you want somethign that buggy? |
| 01:10.31 | ScytheBlade1 | He's dead, we can safely ignore him from here on out |
| 01:10.36 | erikd | xvid! |
| 01:10.40 | ccox | buggier still |
| 01:10.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Meh. ogg video. -.- |
| 01:10.53 | Industrial | ogg \o/ |
| 01:11.04 | erikd | theora? |
| 01:11.08 | Xuerian | ccox: Because it compresses well, fits right inside my downstream, and doesn't use 100% cpu for something that should need about 5% |
| 01:11.20 | Industrial | firefox just needs to learn how to stream ogg and avi |
| 01:11.25 | Xuerian | I'd settle for theora or the likes, though |
| 01:11.28 | Industrial | obviously leave out smv |
| 01:11.42 | Industrial | not requiring you to use a video viewer |
| 01:11.52 | erikd | they were trying to build ogg/vorbis/theora into the html5 spec for media but MS whined |
| 01:11.53 | Industrial | ofcourse offer the alternative of handling it with someone else |
| 01:11.58 | Industrial | but wide spread access ftw? |
| 01:12.07 | Industrial | s/someone/something/ |
| 01:12.11 | erikd | i think adobe did as well |
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| 01:12.28 | Industrial | ofcourse, market share |
| 01:12.30 | Xuerian | Why wouldn't they? flv, flash, wma, silverlight |
| 01:12.33 | Industrial | MONEY |
| 01:12.37 | Gnarfoz | erikd: fubar is Rock-based. I don't see how it wouldn't work? haven't tried though |
| 01:12.41 | Xuerian | They shouldn't though, it was a asshole-ish move.. |
| 01:13.18 | Industrial | Xuerian: right back at ya move? l2open source |
| 01:13.20 | Industrial | :D |
| 01:13.24 | erikd | gnarfoz: it loads and everything but when i try to actually configure it the rock lib throws a settext error (forgot the exact message) |
| 01:13.39 | Xuerian | Industrial: Can't blame me for wanting stage6 back |
| 01:13.44 | erikd | silverlight is so bad |
| 01:13.49 | Industrial | no stage6 was cool actually |
| 01:14.07 | Industrial | but, why wouldnt it be possible to do it open source? |
| 01:14.19 | Xuerian | Possible and going to are two different things |
| 01:14.37 | Industrial | as in like, cooperating companies not pressing "interests" in projects? |
| 01:14.43 | Industrial | hm is that even possible? |
| 01:14.45 | Xuerian | Especially when it comes to corporations and companies that can get "leaned" on |
| 01:15.27 | Gnarfoz | erikd: blame ckknight ;p |
| 01:15.37 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 01:15.46 | Industrial | Xuerian: feathers, go! |
| 01:16.00 | Xuerian | Got em! |
| 01:16.10 | Industrial | ckknight: >:D hi. |
| 01:16.19 | Industrial | erikd: you were saying? |
| 01:16.30 | erikd | fubar blows up on me :P |
| 01:16.37 | Gnarfoz | blarg blargh blargh FUBAR SUCKS AND DOESN'T WORK ON BETA BLARGH BLARGH |
| 01:16.38 | erikd | lemme reinstall it and i'll tell you the exact error |
| 01:16.39 | Gnarfoz | or soemthing |
| 01:16.40 | Gnarfoz | :P |
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| 01:16.47 | ckknight | erikd: k |
| 01:16.53 | Industrial | Gnarfoz: lol |
| 01:17.02 | Lopeppeppy | I am not the pheasant plucker, I'm the pheasant plucker's son. I will sit here plucking feathers until the pheasant plucker comes. |
| 01:17.03 | Gnarfoz | what |
| 01:17.07 | Gnarfoz | ;P |
| 01:17.11 | erikd | well, first of all. what's the most recent version? i have 65601 |
| 01:17.18 | ckknight | that seems old |
| 01:17.24 | ckknight | I could be wrong, though |
| 01:17.39 | Gnarfoz | sounds... ok-ish? |
| 01:17.44 | Gnarfoz | checking ^^ |
| 01:17.57 | erikd | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4571-FuBar3.0.html |
| 01:17.58 | Arrowmaster | erikd: are you using embeded libs? |
| 01:18.04 | Arrowmaster | and yes thats old |
| 01:18.08 | Gnarfoz | no, that's current |
| 01:18.17 | Gnarfoz | http://fish.wowace.com/changelog/WowAce/trunk/FuBar/ ;) |
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| 01:18.27 | Arrowmaster | looks old to me |
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| 01:18.40 | Gnarfoz | a bit of dust here and there, but it's still the most recent version there is =) |
| 01:18.56 | erikd | i'll get the svn trunk one |
| 01:19.05 | erikd | make it easier to update anyway :) |
| 01:20.08 | erikd | as tortoise locks up on me =/ |
| 01:21.31 | Arrowmaster | so yeah im fucking giving up on this and switching over to my nix box just to compile something for windows |
| 01:21.55 | Gnarfoz | what'cha doing, darling? |
| 01:23.27 | Arrowmaster | trying to compile something in mingw that needs a lib that i also compiled in mingw but it cant find because i compiled it in mingw for windows |
| 01:24.17 | Gnarfoz | oh shi-... |
| 01:25.14 | erikd | ckknight: looks like that was an old version i had, the svn trunk one works fine |
| 01:25.24 | ckknight | great :-) |
| 01:25.24 | Arrowmaster | so im going to switch to my linux box, compile the lib normally then compile something else in mingw that im going to use to compile the original thing in mingw |
| 01:25.30 | erikd | :) |
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| 01:36.51 | JoshBorke | ~fail Arrowmaster |
| 01:36.52 | purl | Arrowmaster: FAIL! |
| 01:39.57 | Industrial | Is it possible to link items in custom chat channels? |
| 01:40.29 | Gnarfoz | not without mod help |
| 01:40.32 | Industrial | ok |
| 01:42.14 | Industrial | there we go, off my plate :P |
| 01:44.17 | Industrial | aaand I'm done =) |
| 01:47.41 | Industrial | sorry :< was just working on zipping up everything I had already placed on the svn and then all bugs and feature requests |
| 01:48.02 | Cairenn | lol, no one is upset, we're teasing you |
| 01:48.08 | Cairenn | "stick a fork in me, I'm done" |
| 01:48.35 | Industrial | oh, lol :p |
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| 01:56.34 | JoshBorke | ~emulate Josh_Borke |
| 01:56.35 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn |
| 01:56.52 | JoshBorke | ok, nn :D |
| 01:59.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Argh, where did that Shirik guy get off to? :P |
| 02:00.24 | ScytheBlade1 | I looked around too, he's not here :( |
| 02:00.30 | Lopeppeppy | Must be asleeping |
| 02:01.21 | NightHawkTheSane | sleep is for the week! |
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| 02:01.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Looks like you could use some |
| 02:01.29 | ScytheBlade1 | *weak |
| 02:01.32 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 02:01.34 | NightHawkTheSane | no. i meant what i said. ;) |
| 02:01.37 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:06.22 | erikd | how do i set key bindings in bartender4? i don't see it in the key binding in the options like usual |
| 02:07.10 | Industrial | can elementals be feared? |
| 02:07.12 | erikd | ignore me |
| 02:07.21 | erikd | <-- needs to read faq first |
| 02:07.44 | Industrial | <-- requires a button for that in the config panel |
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| 02:20.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Speak of the devil |
| 02:20.32 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Shirik |
| 02:20.39 | Shirik | I have determined |
| 02:20.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Wait, that'd possibly be a compliment |
| 02:20.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Crap |
| 02:20.47 | Shirik | being on a bus with 30 college students |
| 02:20.51 | Shirik | after open bar for 3 hours |
| 02:20.54 | Shirik | .... hilarious |
| 02:20.54 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:21.21 | Hirsute | Well, time for me to give up on the drunken stupor achievement. I don't think I can get it right now. |
| 02:22.05 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik. Love. What possessed you to do that? *winces* |
| 02:22.47 | Shirik | well I'm actually on a training |
| 02:22.55 | Shirik | and something like 17 schools are up here |
| 02:23.02 | Shirik | and they treat us VERY well (understatement) |
| 02:23.27 | Lopeppeppy | Okay. Well... um, wipe off your shoes, okay? |
| 02:23.34 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 02:24.09 | Shirik | I thin kthat went right over my head :/ |
| 02:24.23 | Lopeppeppy | Are you a wee bit pissed too? |
| 02:25.11 | Shirik | pissed as in drunk? Nah. I'm not really like that |
| 02:25.27 | Lopeppeppy | *nod* |
| 02:25.41 | Lopeppeppy | The shoes thing was in case you stepped in something vile on the bus. |
| 02:25.51 | Shirik | lol |
| 02:26.03 | Shirik | These guys from michigan though... lol |
| 02:26.13 | Shirik | They found one of those fountains that are on the ground and shoot up |
| 02:26.20 | Shirik | and you can like run through because it's level with the walkway |
| 02:26.35 | Shirik | never mind that it's raining and 9 o'clock at night |
| 02:26.49 | Shirik | but they felt the need to try to race the fountain around. The fountain won unfortunately |
| 02:27.00 | Lopeppeppy | Of course it did. It's smarter. :) |
| 02:27.11 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:29.49 | Lopeppeppy | Glad you had some interesting times, Shirik. |
| 02:29.55 | Shirik | oh |
| 02:29.57 | Lopeppeppy | I'm off for bed, see yas! |
| 02:29.59 | Shirik | it only gets better tomorrow |
| 02:30.00 | Shirik | night :) |
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| 02:46.18 | Industrial | wpl at 50 right? |
| 02:46.50 | cbreak | I'd say 51 or 52 |
| 02:47.04 | Industrial | then I can easily do it ;) |
| 02:47.51 | Industrial | I'm always kinda unsatisfied that the undead story stops at hillsbrad |
| 02:47.56 | Industrial | and then continues in wpl? |
| 02:47.58 | Industrial | :\ |
| 02:48.11 | Industrial | I'd like to play it 1-60 ^^ |
| 02:48.37 | Industrial | undead and bones and nasty world demons things hell BLRAARGh etc ftw. |
| 02:48.57 | Industrial | cartoony "jolly mate" areas ftl? |
| 02:49.12 | cbreak | I liked the worgen story line in Duskwood |
| 02:49.22 | Industrial | yes |
| 02:49.34 | Industrial | i dont feel much dor the tauren and their precious nature |
| 02:49.43 | Industrial | and the orc are ok. the demon part. |
| 02:51.06 | Industrial | blood elves are too colory. |
| 02:51.12 | Industrial | die a bit more. |
| 02:51.40 | Industrial | and yes, well, I'm not even considering the alliance story to be fun to play :P |
| 02:53.06 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.theonion.com/content/news/johnson_johnson_introduces_nothing |
| 02:56.56 | cbreak | I haven't played horde, but there are a few great quest lines on the alliance side |
| 02:56.59 | Cairenn | heh |
| 02:57.06 | cbreak | most of them in duskwood. |
| 02:58.09 | cbreak | the worgen quest line and the king of stormwind quest line play in several zones and were fun too. |
| 03:00.19 | Duman | argh I hate outlook |
| 03:01.45 | Industrial | clad|sleep: yes, duskwood would be my fav alliance area |
| 03:01.58 | Industrial | cbreak: * |
| 03:03.49 | Duman | oh wow, there was a patch |
| 03:03.54 | Duman | interesting |
| 03:04.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Duman: small battle.net.dll patch, no new build |
| 03:05.03 | cbreak | patch? |
| 03:05.06 | Industrial | http://www.theonion.com/content/news/johnson_johnson_introduces_nothing |
| 03:05.10 | cbreak | I didn't have to download anything |
| 03:05.14 | Industrial | ups mispaste |
| 03:05.22 | Industrial | good thing that wasnt porn! |
| 03:05.33 | Industrial | anyway, cbreak, yeah and Scarlet Monastery is fun too |
| 03:06.48 | cbreak | I didn't do many instances until 56. And I didn't particularly like scarlet stuff either. I liked the big story arc quest lines. |
| 03:07.50 | Industrial | i just like trampling everything in there cause they are my archenemy |
| 03:07.50 | Industrial | being undead |
| 03:08.30 | cbreak | http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=66 |
| 03:11.23 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=262677 toobs! |
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| 03:14.20 | Duman | yay world server |
| 03:15.00 | Duman | I was just about to say that the server was lagging, and I bet it was about to crash, heh |
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| 03:15.31 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1, you are nuts, that is all |
| 03:17.21 | Industrial | ok on secod notice |
| 03:17.30 | Industrial | wpl/epl will be hell for my warlock. |
| 03:18.13 | Industrial | o hi ungoro felwood searing gorge :P |
| 03:18.16 | Industrial | nn |
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| 03:20.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: why? |
| 03:20.15 | ScytheBlade1 | What'd I do? |
| 03:20.22 | Shirik | read the onion |
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| 03:20.31 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:20.36 | ScytheBlade1 | A friend linked me |
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| 03:23.07 | PProvost | So... quick question... other than checking the zone name, is there a way to tell if the player is in a BG? |
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| 03:24.43 | NightHawkTheSane | hah. geek sex. http://www.smithappens.com/picture/542/Leds-and-resistors-circuit-sex-positions.html |
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| 03:33.12 | kd3 | lol |
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| 03:46.34 | Thunder_Child | more like EE sex, should be just right for Shirik |
| 03:47.04 | ScytheBlade1 | So it looks like they killed private servers with WoW 3.0 |
| 03:47.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Well not killed, but it is not trivial anymore |
| 03:47.40 | Arrowmaster | PProvost: IsInInstance() |
| 03:51.09 | Aznamir | why not? |
| 03:51.24 | ScytheBlade1 | It more or less ignores realmlist.wtf now |
| 03:51.32 | ScytheBlade1 | You can't tell it where to connect to |
| 03:51.43 | Arrowmaster | eh? |
| 03:51.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Indeed |
| 03:51.51 | Arrowmaster | then how the hell do you switch realms? |
| 03:51.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Err |
| 03:52.01 | kd3 | by logging in and saying "choose this realm" |
| 03:52.05 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 03:52.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Different issue entirely |
| 03:52.13 | Arrowmaster | i ment like EU vs US |
| 03:52.22 | kd3 | use the EU client instead of the US one? |
| 03:52.22 | ScytheBlade1 | You install an EU client and a US client |
| 03:52.27 | NightHawkTheSane | what about.. SET realmList "..." in the config.wtf? |
| 03:52.29 | Arrowmaster | but theyre the same client |
| 03:52.45 | kd3 | not if the enGB realmlist that's hardcoded is different than the enUS one |
| 03:52.54 | ScytheBlade1 | NightHawkTheSane: I set it to 127.0.0.1 and it connected fine |
| 03:52.59 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: alright then.. |
| 03:53.00 | Stanzilla | I played an US account with my EU client |
| 03:53.14 | kd3 | stan; with your wrath client? |
| 03:53.15 | Arrowmaster | i bet its something else |
| 03:53.20 | Stanzilla | no Live |
| 03:53.23 | Stanzilla | *, |
| 03:53.28 | kd3 | [23:47:04] <ScytheBlade1> So it looks like they killed private servers with WoW 3.0 |
| 03:53.36 | Stanzilla | ah ok, sorry :P |
| 03:53.39 | ScytheBlade1 | 3.0, not 2.x |
| 03:53.44 | ScytheBlade1 | So "Soon" |
| 03:53.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Or rather wowwiki.com/Soon |
| 03:54.16 | NightHawkTheSane | could it maybe go by locale in config.wtf? >.> |
| 03:54.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Maybe |
| 03:54.31 | ScytheBlade1 | That's a pretty good idea |
| 03:54.32 | Arrowmaster | ScytheBlade1: try switching everything in your realmlist.wtf over to the eu beta |
| 03:54.37 | Arrowmaster | it wont use locale |
| 03:55.01 | Arrowmaster | ScytheBlade1: then try deleting that new battlenet dll and starting the launcher |
| 03:55.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, looks like Northrend is down |
| 03:55.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh there it goes |
| 03:55.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Just laggy |
| 03:56.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Looks like the realmList cvar is ignored entirely |
| 03:56.53 | Aznamir | you're using beta client, may it is hardcoded there? |
| 03:57.00 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm pretty sure at this point that it is |
| 03:57.16 | Arrowmaster | im 100% sure its not hardcoded |
| 03:57.29 | Arrowmaster | atleast not in the exe |
| 03:57.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Why wouldn't it ibe? |
| 03:57.42 | ScytheBlade1 | *be? |
| 03:57.52 | Arrowmaster | because the US and EU realms use the exact same exe |
| 03:58.02 | Kirov | http://davelozo.com/2008/07/30/a-story-that-will-make-you-well-shit-yourself/ |
| 03:58.05 | ScytheBlade1 | That's pretty good evidence :P |
| 03:58.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Same md5sum? |
| 03:58.15 | Kirov | Perhaps it's based on account |
| 03:58.32 | Kirov | log in, get list of servers from the, you know, server. |
| 03:58.49 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, that could be kirov. if it checks your l/p against eu/us, and grabs server from there. |
| 03:58.56 | Arrowmaster | doubt it |
| 03:59.01 | NightHawkTheSane | that seems like it might overly tax auth servers, though |
| 03:59.01 | ScytheBlade1 | No, that would -not- be it |
| 03:59.08 | ScytheBlade1 | They are entirely different auth servers |
| 03:59.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Plus that has collisions |
| 03:59.21 | NightHawkTheSane | does it? |
| 03:59.30 | ScytheBlade1 | You can reg the same account name on both US and EU |
| 03:59.33 | ScytheBlade1 | So yes |
| 03:59.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Different accounts, same name |
| 04:00.00 | NightHawkTheSane | er, if they're moving to the "blizzard" accounts, are those unique, or not? |
| 04:00.18 | ScytheBlade1 | That I do not know |
| 04:00.29 | NightHawkTheSane | I mean, if we're going to be logging in with an email address in 3.0, that's already globally unique |
| 04:00.38 | ScytheBlade1 | email also has problems |
| 04:00.47 | ScytheBlade1 | In that I have two accounts regged to the same e-mail :P |
| 04:01.03 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, that's occured to me. |
| 04:01.11 | NightHawkTheSane | how does that even work on beta? |
| 04:01.44 | ScytheBlade1 | You need multiple blizz accounts |
| 04:01.44 | NightHawkTheSane | what do you use to login with, then? |
| 04:01.52 | Kirov | Are the .mpq files for both clients the same? |
| 04:01.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Imoqie e-mail addresses |
| 04:01.52 | ScytheBlade1 | *Unique |
| 04:01.55 | Arrowmaster | actually i saw something on the beta site about linking multiple accounts to the same temp account |
| 04:02.03 | ScytheBlade1 | I did too |
| 04:02.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Further I have two accounts |
| 04:02.08 | Arrowmaster | Kirov: yes for every client in every locale |
| 04:02.11 | ScytheBlade1 | It requires unique e-mail addresses. |
| 04:02.29 | Kirov | Then why couldn't you just put the realms list file in that. |
| 04:02.34 | Aznamir | no, i linked my 2 wow accounts to one blizzard account |
| 04:02.37 | Kirov | And only obey that |
| 04:02.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Aznamir: how? |
| 04:02.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Kirov: er, wha? |
| 04:02.55 | Aznamir | on the beta page |
| 04:03.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Kirov: .. if the mpqs are the same for all locales.... |
| 04:03.24 | Aznamir | you upgrade your account, then it gives you an option to create a new temp account or log in into existing account |
| 04:03.31 | NightHawkTheSane | except for the localization mpqs, which i guess you could put it in there.. |
| 04:03.45 | Kirov | exactly. |
| 04:03.45 | Arrowmaster | you can use localization packs for any client |
| 04:03.54 | Kirov | So, swap them. |
| 04:03.56 | Arrowmaster | its just patching that becomes tricky |
| 04:03.58 | Kirov | See what happens. |
| 04:04.02 | NightHawkTheSane | even enUS? like, can I localize my enUS client into german? |
| 04:04.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Aznamir: right. I logged into my existing account. Then when I upgraded my second, I was told that I needed to create another temp one. |
| 04:04.06 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 04:04.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Interesting |
| 04:04.15 | Arrowmaster | you can even localize enUS into enGB |
| 04:04.26 | Arrowmaster | the launcher will give you the option to switch between them |
| 04:04.32 | Kirov | NightHawkTheSane - all wow servers have all possible localizations. |
| 04:04.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Kirov: well, localization is client-side, so server has nothing to do with it ;) |
| 04:04.56 | Arrowmaster | localization has nothing to do with server |
| 04:05.42 | ScytheBlade1 | In any case |
| 04:05.43 | Kirov | There was a spate of issues when gold farmers were more "obvious" were people were getting links to items that on US clients just showed as []. These links were item links in chinese, and the US client doesn't have a unicode font. |
| 04:05.56 | ScytheBlade1 | They send out an A query for beta.worldofwarcraft.com |
| 04:06.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Which is *not* in "strings" of any binary shipped with it |
| 04:06.30 | Arrowmaster | yes it does, its font just doesnt have asian glyphs |
| 04:06.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Nor is it contained within Config.wtf |
| 04:07.18 | Arrowmaster | when is that query sent? |
| 04:07.25 | ScytheBlade1 | When starting the client |
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| 04:07.35 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Guillotine] by ChanServ |
| 04:07.36 | Arrowmaster | client and not launcher? |
| 04:07.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Client |
| 04:08.01 | Guillotine | server |
| 04:08.30 | NightHawkTheSane | server? i hardly know her. |
| 04:08.39 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:08.43 | Guillotine | win |
| 04:08.50 | Yssaril | anyone know of a good read about how to use ... in functions? |
| 04:09.28 | Guillotine | no, but its fairly simple. ... is just a list. |
| 04:10.06 | Guillotine | for example, imagine that you did ... = a, b, c (though you actually can't, but its that concept) |
| 04:10.22 | Kirov | Yssaril - ... is part of 5.1, and most of the information on lua.org as far as tutorial-ie stuff is for 5.0. You can buy the book for 5.1 or just ask us about it. |
| 04:10.30 | Yssaril | easiest way to get at it and iterate over it is then to simply stick it in a table? {...}? |
| 04:10.43 | Kirov | easy, yes, wasteful too |
| 04:10.55 | kd3 | oh, random. a patch that didn't even involve running the downloader |
| 04:10.58 | Kirov | select() function |
| 04:11.05 | Guillotine | either that or for i=1, select("#", ...) do myvar = select(i,...) end |
| 04:11.13 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: battle.net.dll |
| 04:11.17 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: or so I'm told |
| 04:11.30 | Kirov | wait |
| 04:11.31 | kd3 | indeed it was... This patch upgrades Battle.net.dll from version 1.4.1.83 to version 1.0.0.9799. |
| 04:11.58 | Kirov | battle.net.dll ... anyone check if that's the same for both clients? |
| 04:12.10 | Yssaril | Guillotine: so that basically prevents it from creating a table ie garbage right? |
| 04:12.17 | Guillotine | yup |
| 04:12.22 | Guillotine | well, still some garbage |
| 04:12.24 | Guillotine | but not as much |
| 04:12.25 | Kirov | battle.net stuff is fairly encrypted. |
| 04:12.34 | Arrowmaster | it is encrypted |
| 04:12.44 | Arrowmaster | its signed with a verisign key too |
| 04:12.53 | Yssaril | thanks Guillotine and Kirov |
| 04:12.56 | Kirov | If they're different, that'd be a good spot to hide realm lists. |
| 04:12.57 | Arrowmaster | and has mention of SHA1 and RSA in it |
| 04:13.05 | ScytheBlade1 | The realm lists are not contained within them |
| 04:13.18 | Arrowmaster | how do you know? |
| 04:13.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Because I'm looking at them now, searching for the relevant strings and IPs |
| 04:13.35 | ScytheBlade1 | And they are not there |
| 04:13.37 | Kirov | If they're encrypted, there's no way to check, unless you're decrypting it. |
| 04:13.40 | Guillotine | Yssaril: take a look at any OnEvent in blizzard code from LK. You can see one way to do it in FrameXML files and another way in GlueXML files |
| 04:13.43 | Arrowmaster | most of it is binary |
| 04:13.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes, and? |
| 04:14.10 | Yssaril | Guillotine: sweet i will have a look |
| 04:18.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Whenever I start the client, I see DNS requests for beta.wow.com, us.scan.wow.com, and public-test.wow.com |
| 04:18.42 | kd3 | o_O; fark: "[Scary] Twenty sex lectures lasting 50 minutes each, and 34 lessons before the final test. It's not the MCAT, it's Japan's driver's license test" |
| 04:18.47 | ScytheBlade1 | The string "public-test" appears in the binaries once, without the .worldofwarcraft.com suffix |
| 04:20.41 | Arrowmaster | whats in the realmlist.wtf for eu clients? |
| 04:22.17 | kd3 | whee... I love well-connected xdcc bots |
| 04:22.41 | kd3 | my bandwidth meter looks like a square wave as xchat gets files |
| 04:23.16 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 04:29.18 | ScytheBlade1 | This is why I should leave trade/general... otherwise I get pissy at the stupid people :P |
| 04:30.18 | Arrowmaster | the launcher still uses the realmlist.wtf for version checking |
| 04:31.07 | ScytheBlade1 | The first thing I login to is [2. Trade] [Person]: man I love how mages don't respawn when you ask them for a port ro darlen |
| 04:31.57 | kd3 | gah |
| 04:32.02 | kd3 | glad I didn't log in today |
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| 04:32.31 | ScytheBlade1 | I kinda emo'd on the guy in trade :P |
| 04:33.27 | kd3 | lol |
| 04:34.25 | ScytheBlade1 | It ended with "We leveled; YOU CAN TOO!" |
| 04:34.35 | ScytheBlade1 | To which someone responded with "but but but EIGHTY PERCENT INCREASE" |
| 04:34.44 | ScytheBlade1 | And I continued not caring in the least |
| 04:35.04 | kd3 | "qq cry moar. try leveling, /suggest if it's too slow" |
| 04:35.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh hey |
| 04:35.30 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd take my whining and QQing from QQ --> helpful |
| 04:35.35 | ScytheBlade1 | I think I'll use that from now on, thanks! |
| 04:35.51 | Thelyna | what's the eighty percent in relation to? |
| 04:35.57 | kd3 | the last build |
| 04:35.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Needed exp per level |
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| 04:36.15 | kd3 | ~1.xM XP -> ~2.8ish M XP |
| 04:36.34 | Thelyna | oh |
| 04:36.54 | Thelyna | that'd be why it took more xp for my paladin to go 70-71 than my priest 71-71 |
| 04:36.58 | Thelyna | er, 71-72 |
| 04:37.06 | Thelyna | and I thought blizz just hated paladins |
| 04:37.10 | ScytheBlade1 | quite likely, yes, depending on when you did it |
| 04:37.11 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:37.24 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm going to ask if I can jack the guild bank for a day and copy over again |
| 04:37.32 | ScytheBlade1 | And dual-box my druid on the way up |
| 04:39.16 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm also debating making two macros |
| 04:39.20 | ScytheBlade1 | "/1 It's a bug." |
| 04:39.21 | ScytheBlade1 | and |
| 04:39.24 | ScytheBlade1 | "/2 It's a bug." |
| 04:39.33 | kd3 | lol |
| 04:39.53 | kd3 | I need to fix my dalaran macro. "/1 stfu and level to 74" |
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| 04:40.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Meh, I just "/dnd No ports. I don't want your money." every time I login now |
| 04:41.14 | Arrowmaster | i wonder what depot.battle.net is |
| 04:41.44 | kd3 | "you can do it! we can help!"? |
| 04:42.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha, this person in <Secure Templars> - their name pleases me |
| 04:42.20 | ScytheBlade1 | "Keylogger" |
| 04:42.35 | Mikk | Augh! Blizzard nerfd |T|t haxery in gmotd! |
| 04:42.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Mikk: they did :( |
| 04:42.47 | Kirov | hmm? |
| 04:42.57 | ScytheBlade1 | 2.4.1 I think? Might have been .2 |
| 04:43.02 | Mikk | Kirov: UBRS loading screen as gmotd? =) |
| 04:43.12 | Kirov | lol |
| 04:43.14 | kd3 | rofl |
| 04:43.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay that's a new trick |
| 04:43.30 | ScytheBlade1 | I kinda like that trick |
| 04:43.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Now I too am sad that they nerfed it |
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| 04:51.23 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work: I kinda love your beta-general rampage on starting new threads concerning the exp change |
| 04:53.55 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, your email forgot to mention the location of the search/filter area |
| 04:55.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: reply-all with that in detail |
| 04:56.10 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, L2be lazy |
| 04:56.19 | Thunder_Child | s/be lazy/belazy |
| 04:56.21 | ScytheBlade1 | no2 |
| 04:56.22 | Thunder_Child | s/be lazy/belazy/ |
| 04:56.23 | Thunder_Child | bah |
| 04:56.35 | ReAn | For those of you interested :) i just watched Tekkub /emo and jump off a cliff in beta :p |
| 04:56.57 | Thunder_Child | thats because Tekkub has no sense of drama |
| 04:57.02 | Tekkub | I had no choice, I couldn't /sadpanda |
| 05:08.26 | Thunder_Child | ~lart ScytheBlade1 |
| 05:08.26 | purl | takes out ScytheBlade1 with the trash |
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| 05:20.13 | abug | slash panda and order an eggroll instead |
| 05:23.55 | Kirov | pandaran express! |
| 05:25.08 | abug | glad someone else remembered that |
| 05:28.16 | Kirov | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/pandaren-xpress.html |
| 05:30.05 | Kirov | http://cyberartist.shackspace.com/etc/wowserverupgrade.jpg - in other news... |
| 05:31.30 | abug | heh |
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| 05:35.58 | |pez| | Hrm, I want a irc bot I can make say specific stuff... |
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| 05:41.26 | Mikk | lua> return "specific stuff" |
| 05:41.26 | lua_bot | Mikk: specific stuff |
| 05:42.09 | Kirov | ~emulate Kirov |
| 05:42.10 | purl | It's too early in the morning for me to be able to read moron. |
| 05:42.11 | Mikk | You might find it easier to just log in a second account and type in that window though! |
| 05:43.22 | |pez| | Mikk :P |
| 05:44.00 | |pez| | I'm thinkin more along the lines of saying like !rtfm and it'll give a link to a relevant manual. |
| 05:44.07 | |pez| | ~lua |
| 05:44.07 | purl | Lua is a powerful light-weight programming language designed for extending applications. It is often used as a configuration language. See http://www.lua.org/. Note: Lua is not an acronym. Its name is derived from the Latin word "Luna" which means "moon". |
| 05:44.12 | |pez| | like that |
| 05:46.21 | Kirov | ~rtfm |
| 05:46.22 | purl | somebody said rtfm was Read The F*cking Manual (TM). It is a suggestion to do your homework before posting a question. Sometimes used as RTFM $SPECIFIC_MANUAL to refer to a specific source of information. See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTFM |
| 05:46.47 | |pez| | .. hah :D |
| 05:47.19 | |pez| | but yes, that sort of thing is pretty much what I want. With the ability to add new stuff as I see fit. |
| 05:47.48 | Kirov | purl, pez is "Hrm, I want a irc bot I can make say specific stuff..." |
| 05:47.49 | purl | ...but pez is already something else... |
| 05:47.53 | Kirov | ~pez |
| 05:47.54 | purl | it has been said that pez is the worlds greatest candy |
| 05:48.10 | Kirov | purl, |pez| is "Hrm, I want a irc bot I can make say specific stuff..." |
| 05:48.11 | purl | Kirov: okay |
| 05:48.16 | Kirov | ~|pez| |
| 05:48.17 | purl | |pez| is, like, "Hrm, I want a irc bot I can make say specific stuff..." |
| 05:48.28 | |pez| | ~Kirov |
| 05:48.32 | Kirov | let the abuse begin |
| 05:48.51 | |pez| | purl, Kirov is a silly person |
| 05:48.51 | purl | |pez|: okay |
| 05:49.06 | |pez| | purl, forget Kirov |
| 05:49.06 | purl | |pez|: i forgot kirov |
| 05:49.22 | Kirov | purl, forget |pez| |
| 05:49.22 | purl | Kirov: i forgot |pez| |
| 05:49.28 | |pez| | Is purl based of infobot? |
| 05:50.22 | Kirov | no idea |
| 05:50.27 | haste | think purl was merged back into infobot |
| 05:50.53 | haste | "We've merged back into the main infobot project hosted on SourceForge. Please see The main infobot site for updates, news, etc." it was |
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| 05:51.26 | |pez| | I was reading about some bot thingies, and infobot and blootbot were the same thing |
| 05:52.31 | haste | blootbot is deaded! |
| 05:53.08 | |pez| | well, technically it's now infobot XD |
| 05:53.14 | Kirov | http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20080728.jpg lol |
| 05:55.36 | |pez| | haha |
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| 06:22.42 | abug | is there a way to use spell ids in place of spell names in secure action buttons |
| 06:22.52 | Corrodias | soul calibur: the game that gives you only part of the package, no matter which version you buy! |
| 06:22.56 | clad|sleep | Hjalte: it chooses them based on the function you've specified. Is it not even trying it on? |
| 06:23.37 | Hjalte | clad|sleep: Yeah, it is trying it on, but if the function I am using doesn't match any of the stats on the piece of equipment, which does it then choose? |
| 06:23.59 | clad|sleep | it would be random, basically |
| 06:24.03 | clad|sleep | if your weights don't handle it at all |
| 06:24.11 | clad|sleep | download the newest version |
| 06:24.18 | Hjalte | clad|sleep: Okay, I figured it might be. |
| 06:24.21 | clad|sleep | do /run DressToKill:SetDebug(true) |
| 06:24.23 | clad|sleep | and then see |
| 06:24.31 | batrick | I can't fathom why blizzaard hasn't fixed druids in 2v2 yet |
| 06:24.32 | clad|sleep | it'll tell you the scores for each item, so you can help figure things out. |
| 06:24.36 | clad|sleep | what function are you using? |
| 06:24.37 | batrick | So fucking mad |
| 06:25.36 | Corrodias | bat: because they consider the pvp to balance for in larger groups, 5v5 or higher |
| 06:25.43 | batrick | still |
| 06:25.50 | Corrodias | at least that's what they've said before |
| 06:25.56 | Hjalte | clad|sleep: It probably doesn't give either of the items any points and just picks one. I'm using the healing/int function, but the items were feral dps items. I just didnt have a healing neck at the time. |
| 06:25.59 | batrick | they recognized for wrath that lifebloom is wikedly overpowered, and they are fixing it |
| 06:26.14 | Corrodias | oh? what's the change? |
| 06:26.22 | batrick | I don't remember where I saw the blue post |
| 06:26.27 | clad|sleep | Hjalte: you can/should add health to the function, so at least it picks the one that gives you the most health |
| 06:26.40 | Hjalte | clad|sleep: You're right. |
| 06:28.12 | clad|sleep | with a very low weight so it doesn't throw things off :P |
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| 06:29.06 | batrick | Corrodias: it wouldn't be so bad either if they would just remove or balance the LOS in arenas |
| 06:29.15 | batrick | mages are completely fucking useless against druid/? teams |
| 06:30.38 | clad|sleep | rock, paper, scissors? |
| 06:31.10 | Corrodias | i never liked pvp so i can't get worked up enough about it, i guess |
| 06:31.10 | clad|sleep | you know as well as I do that there are classes that can simply shut a druid down as well |
| 06:32.05 | Corrodias | well... a rogue can maybe stunlock it but that goes for anybody except paladins |
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| 10:11.03 | matt1s | If I want to learn Ace, should I use Ace2 or Ace3? Or are there other libraries that are better? |
| 10:12.48 | haste | Ace3, totally depends on what you need |
| 10:13.44 | matt1s | For the moment I just want to play around with the WoW API and get familliar with a library |
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| 10:16.41 | Gnarfoz | since ace2 "does" more stuff for you, ace3 is probably more interesting |
| 10:17.36 | haste | is ace2 even maintained anymore? |
| 10:18.39 | Gnarfoz | yes? |
| 10:18.58 | matt1s | Ok thanks, I googled up a getting started with Ace3 wiki I'm going to follow |
| 10:19.53 | digmouse | ace2 and 3 both has lot's of docs, and ace2 is more pracitcal for now, ace3 is still a bit under dev |
| 10:20.15 | haste | maintained is really the wrong word, but isn't it made depricated by rock and ace2? |
| 10:20.30 | haste | deprecated* |
| 10:20.37 | Gnarfoz | you could probably say that |
| 10:20.43 | Gnarfoz | still, it's stable and works |
| 10:21.00 | digmouse | at least more stable than ace2 |
| 10:21.01 | Gnarfoz | Rock is both of those, too, I guess |
| 10:21.04 | digmouse | *ace3 |
| 10:21.34 | amro | matt1s: also /join #wowace |
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| 10:49.11 | Marios | hi any screenshots on Cosmos UI? |
| 10:51.43 | AnduinLothar | not in any one place. |
| 10:52.25 | AnduinLothar | it's a functionality compilation, not many fancy graphic changes. |
| 10:52.55 | Marios | does it change your charportait and stuff? |
| 10:53.20 | AnduinLothar | you can add features to the frame |
| 10:53.29 | AnduinLothar | doesn't replace it tho |
| 10:53.30 | Marios | I'm looking for new UI :S |
| 10:54.29 | AnduinLothar | all addons are UI |
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| 11:02.00 | Marios | because i dont know much staff about uis and addons |
| 11:02.29 | Marios | what addons are called the ones which can change casting bars, portaits, action bars |
| 11:02.32 | Marios | icons .. |
| 11:02.43 | Marios | thats what i'm looking about |
| 11:03.02 | haste | bloat? |
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| 11:06.50 | Marios | i rlly need a new interfaceeeeee |
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| 11:32.06 | digmouse | lots of them though, why not searching some in WoWI Categorys? |
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| 13:04.27 | matt1s | If I want to understand state headers and secure state headers (are these the same?) where would I begin? |
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| 13:05.03 | nevcairiel | the old, or the new in 3.0? |
| 13:05.57 | matt1s | Is the new one radically different? |
| 13:07.21 | nevcairiel | 100% |
| 13:07.57 | nevcairiel | They completly rewrote it |
| 13:08.28 | nevcairiel | And, there is only one type of state headers, so the "two" you think of, are probably the same |
| 13:12.50 | matt1s | hum so creating an addon largely focused on state headers is kind of waste |
| 13:13.05 | nevcairiel | What kind of addon would that be? |
| 13:13.22 | nevcairiel | I can probably tell you how much in that line would need change |
| 13:13.41 | matt1s | Changing keybindings for a buttonbar during combat is what I'm trying to solve |
| 13:13.52 | matt1s | I was told I had to manipulate state headers |
| 13:14.03 | nevcairiel | oh yeah that'll need a complete rework with 3.0 |
| 13:15.58 | matt1s | I need to learn how to write an addon anyway, so I think I'll just continue with the 2.0 API even though it's waste |
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| 13:37.22 | cladhaire | the best 2.0 description of the state header system is in the book, to be honest |
| 13:37.28 | cladhaire | Cogwheel did an amazing job on that chapter |
| 13:44.33 | Anaral | How much of the book will be obsolete once 3.0 comes out? |
| 13:45.09 | matt1s | ..book? :P |
| 13:46.14 | Anaral | http://astore.amazon.com/worofwarproag-20/detail/0470229810/105-0720423-4475656 |
| 13:46.50 | Anaral | http://www.wowprogramming.com/ also has a bunch of resources for addon authors. |
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| 13:49.50 | Xeross | Hey |
| 13:49.56 | Xeross | i need some help with oUF |
| 13:50.01 | Xeross | i want to change the castbar color |
| 13:50.04 | Xeross | how do i do that ? |
| 13:51.11 | haste | cb:SetVertexColor(r, g, b) cb.SetVertexColor = function() end -- if you use stable, no need for the dummy function on master however |
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| 14:26.10 | Xeross | guys i need an addon to move frames anyone know one that still works |
| 14:26.49 | Shirik | ChatFrame works well |
| 14:26.58 | Shirik | lets you type all these scripts to move frames |
| 14:26.59 | Shirik | beautiful |
| 14:27.23 | Shirik | /script PlayerFrame:SetPoint("CENTER", UIParent, "CENTER", 0,0) :D |
| 14:27.59 | Xeross | uh replace playerframe with the frame name ? |
| 14:28.02 | Mera | using FluidFrames me |
| 14:28.34 | Mera | u mouseover anyframe and saving positions |
| 14:29.13 | Nom- | hmm what's the change to UnitDebuff ? endTime is called something else right? |
| 14:29.21 | Nom- | oh it should be in the forum thread |
| 14:29.21 | Nom- | nvm |
| 14:31.03 | Xeross | mera just the one from curse ? |
| 14:33.05 | Nom- | ok maybe i'm blind, but i can't find the UI Changes thread :/ |
| 14:33.18 | Drundia | ./script frame:SetMovable(true); frame:StartMoving() and then later /script frame:StopMovingOrSizing() looks better ;) |
| 14:33.42 | Drundia | you don't have to calculate position... |
| 14:34.04 | Mera | nop i take it a cosmosui.org on addons page u have latest standalone version |
| 14:35.43 | Xeross | uh drundia what that does is make the frame stretch which looks weird on the capture bar |
| 14:35.54 | Xeross | and when i do the stop it goes back to original |
| 14:36.36 | Mera | take ff its nice no requirmeent |
| 14:36.41 | Mera | requirements* |
| 14:37.05 | Mera | just to bind a key to press when u mouseover the frame u wanna move |
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| 14:48.37 | Mera | arg Coldarra server full in queue 255 -_- |
| 14:49.22 | Mera | they are inviting more beta testers than the server can handle or what lol |
| 14:50.04 | Anaral | Wow |
| 14:50.47 | Xeross | i wanna join :( |
| 14:51.54 | Mera | almost unplayable the day for eu testers, server are in the us , busy + hing eu pingers at 400ms minimum |
| 14:52.00 | Mera | the night better |
| 14:52.09 | Mera | high* |
| 14:52.09 | foxlit | been on Coldarra lately? |
| 14:52.10 | Gnarfoz | and... there's lots of stupid imbeciles on beta |
| 14:52.11 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 14:52.40 | Xeross | well what can i say, its wotlk |
| 14:56.32 | Xeross | well more time to get to 70 before it comes out |
| 14:56.38 | Xeross | is released* |
| 14:56.41 | nevcairiel | Shirik: i see some people have a paypal donation button on their project page, i cant really find any docs how to add those .. halp! |
| 14:57.17 | Xeross | https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donate-intro-outside |
| 14:57.20 | Shirik | ~kill nevcairiel |
| 14:57.21 | purl | ACTION shoots a inverse pseudoquark gun at nevcairiel |
| 14:57.21 | foxlit | While "unplayable" is correct, what follows isn't really the proper explanation |
| 14:57.54 | nevcairiel | Xeross: cant add html code =P |
| 14:58.09 | Xeross | hmm |
| 14:58.21 | nevcairiel | Shirik: its not my fault people ask for a button, and who would i to say no.. :) |
| 14:58.42 | Xeross | cant help then |
| 15:00.15 | Anaral | So is it universal that the alliance suck at PvP, or just a Ruin Battle Group thing? |
| 15:00.16 | foxlit | Nev: why would you need to? |
| 15:00.34 | nevcairiel | need what? |
| 15:00.42 | Xeross | alliance sucks at PvP in general |
| 15:01.13 | Anaral | *sighs* I just want a gold medalion, is that too much to ask? |
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| 15:03.50 | Xeross | just wait till you can buy race change |
| 15:03.50 | foxlit | I mean, worst case scenario, it's a link and an image |
| 15:06.50 | foxlit | [url] and [img] |
| 15:08.45 | |pez| | in my battlegroun, it seems horde are the losers most of the time, in PvP |
| 15:12.45 | foxlit | (psst, accept life of poverty and deny donations!) |
| 15:13.13 | Anaral | What battlegroup is this Pez? |
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| 15:14.39 | |pez| | Vindication EU. :P |
| 15:19.28 | foxlit | http://store.theonion.com/the-sports-team-from-my-area-p-83.html |
| 15:22.45 | foxlit | translate that to WoW |
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| 15:27.59 | Xeross155 | wow having a character higher then level 70 sounds epic.... |
| 15:27.59 | foxlit | which faction do you play on? |
| 15:31.17 | Drundia | sigh... now you can't even move items around while casting... at least attempts to equip items while casting result in error instead of interruption |
| 15:52.46 | KautionTape | Anyone know of a good Border texture I can use with eePanels? |
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| 15:54.55 | Industrial | !seen Zariel |
| 15:55.00 | Industrial | ~seen Zariel |
| 15:55.04 | purl | zariel <n=chris@82-69-11-251.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5d 1h 39s ago, saying: 'Is LibButtonFacade still being developped, havent seen JJsheets anywhere'. |
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| 16:00.16 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: ping |
| 16:00.22 | Shadowed | Gnarfoz pong |
| 16:01.19 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: at least on WotLK, SBB has a small bug: when mousing over any debuff, it shows the tooltip for my first buff. (guess it's wotlk only since there were changes to how that works) |
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| 16:01.33 | Shadowed | mmm |
| 16:01.40 | Mery | nnn |
| 16:02.19 | Gnarfoz | oo |
| 16:02.19 | Gnarfoz | :X |
| 16:02.19 | Shadowed | oh |
| 16:02.19 | Gnarfoz | if( self.type == "buffs" or self.type == "debuffs" ) then |
| 16:02.19 | Gnarfoz | GameTooltip:SetUnitBuff("player", self.data.buffIndex) |
| 16:02.19 | Shadowed | yea |
| 16:02.22 | Shadowed | are you on beta now? |
| 16:02.24 | Gnarfoz | yep |
| 16:02.46 | Shadowed | if( self.type == "buffs" ) then GameTooltip:SetUnitBuff("player", self.data.buffIndex) elseif( self.type == "debuffs" ) then GameTooltip:SetUnitDebuff("player", self.data.buffIndex |
| 16:02.48 | Shadowed | Can you see if that fixes it? |
| 16:02.52 | Shadowed | Except it needs a ) at the end! |
| 16:03.02 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I'll test that |
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| 16:04.33 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: bingo ;) |
| 16:04.40 | Shadowed | kk thanks I'll get it fixed |
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| 16:13.33 | foxlit | Haha |
| 16:15.46 | foxlit | |t isn't scaled |
| 16:21.19 | foxlit | So if you say 16 pixels, you mean 16 pixels |
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| 16:25.47 | Xeross155 | can anyone help me with a oUF layout |
| 16:25.54 | Xeross155 | i want it to also show the player level |
| 16:25.54 | foxlit | http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9614/tscalexp5.png |
| 16:26.06 | Xeross155 | i already have the code from the target |
| 16:28.13 | Xeross155 | imageshack sais 403 - Forbidden |
| 16:29.13 | foxlit | Could someone post that somewhere relevant? |
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| 16:32.07 | Iriel | foxlit: which 'that' is that? |
| 16:34.24 | Fisker- | i think it's the 403 image |
| 16:34.30 | Fisker- | BUT 403 IMAGE IS 40000000000000033333333333333333333333333 |
| 16:36.31 | foxlit | [http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/6287/tscalefw3.png , changed wording] |
| 16:37.08 | Iriel | foxlit: Can you put together a .zip with a minimal example and email it to me? I'll pass it on. |
| 16:41.08 | Arrowmaster | i think thats a known thing |
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| 16:42.14 | Iriel | Known or not, it's still broken |
| 16:45.21 | foxlit | The top one should be 403ed by now, so only the bottom one is valid |
| 16:49.25 | foxlit | http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/6287/tscalefw3.png |
| 16:49.32 | Gnarfoz | http://www.sluggy.com/daily.php?date=060724 |
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| 16:58.54 | foxlit | Text summary is basically that textures embedded using |t escapes ignore scaling applied by the WoW client when its window is resized |
| 16:59.26 | Iriel | I fully understand the issue,the blizz folks find it MUCH easier if we can give them a tiny AddOn to demonstrate it |
| 17:00.03 | Iriel | something like asimple frame with text that's changing scaling on an OnUpdate or somesuch |
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| 17:07.53 | Industrial | hmm, it's not possible to resize the minimap? I want it 7 units wider and higher :( |
| 17:08.45 | Industrial | then it would match my actionbar perfectly |
| 17:08.46 | foxlit | So everything around the |Ticon:15|t shrinks or grows as you shrink or grow the wow window, but the icon always takes up the same amount of pixels. |
| 17:08.50 | Industrial | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/8f420d9729e0af5b123201e5f1f83c0e.jpg |
| 17:09.16 | leethal | <betakeyspam>Anyone between 592 and 672 got their key yet?</betakeyspam> |
| 17:10.26 | cbreak | how do those Ticon things work? are they like text? |
| 17:12.11 | Iriel | Industrial: You can rescale the minimap just fine |
| 17:12.41 | Industrial | yeah 1.05 seems just fine :3 |
| 17:13.07 | Industrial | hawt http://images.gammatester.com/pics/0f836a158d61ab1c595cc1aad5a91746.jpg |
| 17:13.17 | foxlit | It's probably doable in a few lines, so I can get a pastey up in a few minutes; otherwise, I need your email address :) |
| 17:14.15 | Iriel | iriel@iriel.org |
| 17:14.15 | foxlit | [and it's probably in the FrameXML somewhere!] |
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| 17:24.14 | foxlit | Also interesting: if |Ticon:width|t is bigger than the FontString container, it'll be rendered as text |
| 17:24.49 | Anaral | When I try to get the git of Cart3 I get the following error: "fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly" |
| 17:25.49 | foxlit | http://pastey.net/93954 |
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| 17:31.09 | Iriel | foxlit: thanks, i'll forward it on |
| 17:32.37 | foxlit | Iriel: so does that pastey link count as an emailed zip? :) |
| 17:33.00 | Iriel | we'll see if they reject the bug report as 'cannot reproduce' 8-) |
| 17:38.52 | foxlit | I can't resize the client window for them, unfortunately |
| 17:40.18 | Drundia | you can |
| 17:40.40 | Drundia | gxresolution does it perfectly in windowed mode |
| 17:45.38 | Drundia | well, icon scales properly on resize, but then reverts to absolute pixel size |
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| 17:49.08 | Shirik | !g zeno |
| 17:49.08 | foxlit | Iriel: sent |
| 17:49.09 | batbot | Shirik: Zeno Acne Treatment Device | The original hand-held acne treatment ... <http://www.myzeno.com/> |
| 17:49.12 | Shirik | ~dict zeno |
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| 17:49.24 | Shirik | sigh |
| 17:50.06 | Shirik | I keep getting this warning "This indicates your system is in Zeno" |
| 17:50.29 | Shirik | awesome message |
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| 17:56.15 | cog|away | is the login server down for anyone else? (live wow & forums) |
| 17:57.01 | KautionTape | I'm able to log into the forums |
| 17:58.02 | cog|away | hmm... i think it's time to reboot the router... |
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| 18:01.49 | Tem|afk | haha this week's ZP was awesome |
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| 18:03.15 | Iriel | which game? |
| 18:03.20 | Tem|afk | "This just goes to show: never put your dick in a pudding. It might still be good pudding, and you can spend all afternoon explaining that. But no one's going to eat it BECASE YOU STUCK YOUR DICK IN IT" |
| 18:03.38 | Tem|afk | Iriel, Prince of Persia retrospective |
| 18:09.28 | Thunder_Child | i never found PoP to be all that enjoyable anyway |
| 18:11.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Tem: yeah, I said that in here a day or two ago... it came out of NOWHERE and was just *awesome* |
| 18:14.50 | Tem | hehe yeah |
| 18:15.03 | Tem | Thunder_Child, I liked it |
| 18:15.09 | Tem | but I found it kind of repetative |
| 18:15.19 | Tem | after the first few levels I felt like I'd played the whole game |
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| 18:27.46 | Industrial | ScytheBlade1: demand? the only thing they can demand is my foot up their ass? |
| 18:28.03 | Industrial | but then i wouldnt give it to them ofc. |
| 18:28.19 | Industrial | that'd be kinda, too kinky for me o_O |
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| 19:22.18 | frop | dello |
| 19:22.26 | frop | got a question |
| 19:22.30 | Thunder_Child | btw ScytheBlade1, the email was respond to all |
| 19:22.42 | Lopeppeppy | Ask away, frop. If someone can help, we will |
| 19:22.44 | ScytheBlade1 | correct, it was |
| 19:23.02 | frop | is possible "force" wowCombatLog.txt to a new file, while beign logged in ? |
| 19:23.03 | Thunder_Child | but i still hate you |
| 19:23.07 | ScytheBlade1 | no |
| 19:23.08 | ScytheBlade1 | It is not |
| 19:23.19 | frop | combatlog is "locked" isnt? |
| 19:23.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Even if you rename the combat log, and then turn on logging |
| 19:23.31 | ScytheBlade1 | It won't write any changes |
| 19:23.49 | frop | mmmh |
| 19:23.51 | ScytheBlade1 | You must restart WoW any time you manually manipulate WoWCombatLog.txt or it simply won't write anything |
| 19:23.57 | frop | and write a "parallel" combatlog? |
| 19:23.59 | ScytheBlade1 | And further you can't tell it what to name the file :( |
| 19:24.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Explain a bit more? |
| 19:24.46 | frop | like having "classic" wowcombatlog.txt AND NagrandCombatLog.txt for example |
| 19:25.15 | ScytheBlade1 | As in having WoW write two combat logs at once? |
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| 19:25.33 | frop | yep...something like that |
| 19:25.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Not possible |
| 19:26.02 | frop | one untouched...and one custom (like copy what's written in the "original" one) :P |
| 19:26.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Let me see if I can sum it up |
| 19:26.30 | ScytheBlade1 | WoW will *only* write data to "Logs\WoWCombatLog.txt" - period |
| 19:26.47 | Thunder_Child | why not just copy what you want to SV and make it easly parsed |
| 19:27.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: because SVs are massive and only written to the disk on reload/logout, whereas the combatlog takes much much less memory and flushes every so often |
| 19:27.34 | frop | Thunder_Child was what i thought :P |
| 19:27.59 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, i thought you said the combat log only writes on a reload/log |
| 19:28.10 | frop | ohh...now it's crystal clear...i knew something about it...but was hoping for a solution...somehow |
| 19:28.11 | ScytheBlade1 | No, the combat log writes periodically |
| 19:28.13 | Thunder_Child | oh, manually, nvm |
| 19:28.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Same with the chat log |
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| 19:28.56 | Thunder_Child | can you change how it outputs it to the combat log? |
| 19:29.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope |
| 19:30.38 | frop | mmmh, and copy combatlog infos to a custom "chat channel"? |
| 19:30.48 | frop | i think wws addon did it somehow |
| 19:31.15 | frop | i remember a parallel combatlog, used to "parse" data for wws client |
| 19:33.02 | Drayeah | What is the actual goal of this extra combatlog? |
| 19:33.22 | frop | have combatlogs divided per zones |
| 19:33.48 | frop | like...make an archive of "instances" and "raids" |
| 19:33.53 | ScytheBlade1 | The only way to do that would be to log everything into a saved variable and write that to disk |
| 19:34.06 | Iriel | I would like it if it used a timestamped log file and changed log on zoning |
| 19:34.12 | frop | ScytheBlade1 :P write on logout i guess |
| 19:34.16 | Iriel | really that's a suggestions forum post 8-) |
| 19:34.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: yeah, I threw the timestamped up on the suggestions thread ;) |
| 19:34.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: if you want to add your +1 though.... =] |
| 19:35.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Although I'm not sure how to handle the "changed log on zoning" |
| 19:35.53 | ScytheBlade1 | See: wiping 20 times in a night, producing 40 combat logs |
| 19:36.04 | ScytheBlade1 | 1 per instance, 1 per run back to the instance |
| 19:36.11 | Jagannath | Good point. |
| 19:36.12 | frop | mmmh |
| 19:39.30 | ScytheBlade1 | An addon could easily toggle the on/off based on being dead or not though |
| 19:39.39 | frop | well...appending always to the same combatlog sucks...btw |
| 19:39.50 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd be fine with a simple timestamp on the file name of when it started, an addon could easily break it up from there |
| 19:39.56 | ScytheBlade1 | frop: suggestions thread with you |
| 19:39.57 | frop | ScytheBlade1 loggerhead is doingit....zone bases...thought |
| 19:40.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Loggerhead writes crap to the generic chat log |
| 19:40.38 | ScytheBlade1 | There is _always_ going to be extra bandwidth imposed on top of it |
| 19:40.40 | frop | talking of combatlog :P |
| 19:40.55 | ScytheBlade1 | What? |
| 19:41.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Ig |
| 19:41.08 | frop | well, it toggle /combatlog on zonein |
| 19:41.10 | ScytheBlade1 | *Oh |
| 19:41.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, exactly |
| 19:41.26 | ScytheBlade1 | But that does not seperate data based on zone |
| 19:41.33 | frop | nope |
| 19:41.47 | frop | just a toggle on the *crap* wowcombatlog |
| 19:42.02 | frop | it sucks sort combatlogs for wws :P |
| 19:42.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Loggerhead + logs saved w/ timestamp when it was enabled would be pretty close to perfect |
| 19:42.13 | frop | and it's my duty in my guild |
| 19:42.39 | frop | aye that would make more sence...and make it as i need ^^ |
| 19:42.52 | ScytheBlade1 | "suggestions thread with you!" |
| 19:42.59 | frop | link? :P |
| 19:42.59 | ScytheBlade1 | That'll actually go somewhere |
| 19:43.05 | ScytheBlade1 | google "wow ui suggestions" |
| 19:43.08 | ScytheBlade1 | !g wow ui suggestions |
| 19:43.09 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 19:43.09 | batbot | ScytheBlade1: Definitive answers to UI suggestions - WOW Insider <http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/12/definitive-answers-to-ui-suggestions/> |
| 19:43.12 | ScytheBlade1 | BOO |
| 19:43.14 | ScytheBlade1 | NOT YOU WOWINSIDER |
| 19:43.18 | ScytheBlade1 | !g wow ui suggestions -wowinsider |
| 19:43.19 | batbot | ScytheBlade1: WoW Forums -> UI Suggestions - Concise List <http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=B5258CC9666587FD435C19D9507D2C96.app09_08?topicId=101150523&postId=27201405085&sid=1> |
| 19:43.22 | ScytheBlade1 | There we are |
| 19:43.22 | frop | :) |
| 19:43.36 | Lopeppeppy | ~botsnack |
| 19:43.36 | purl | aw, gee, Lopeppeppy |
| 19:43.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Jump to page 1, cog has a link to the new thread |
| 19:44.21 | amro | Iriel: is there a way to get a reference to frames that show up as table: X in dtframestack? |
| 19:46.00 | frop | eheh |
| 19:46.19 | frop | in page one there's a suggestion: "Toggling combat logging off should dump the in memory bits of the logfile and close out the file." |
| 19:48.48 | frop | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5784275032&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 19:48.53 | frop | here's the new thread |
| 19:51.53 | frop | can't login there :P it's US forum :P |
| 19:54.32 | MentalPower | frop: I can tell you right away, denied |
| 19:54.42 | MentalPower | that would break the sandbox |
| 19:54.45 | Iriel | amro iterate over all frames with EnumerateFrames and look for a match? |
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| 20:10.31 | Jagannath | Hmm. So, not really possible for something to write logs to separate files? |
| 20:12.41 | Jagannath | What about addons like MobInfo2 and it's database thing. :o |
| 20:15.27 | Thunder_Child | DB is included in the addon and any new info is stored in the SV |
| 20:15.40 | Thunder_Child | thats what i figure anyways |
| 20:16.24 | Thunder_Child | in theory you could have a program parse the SV and insert the new data into the DB but i dunno if thats against the rules or not |
| 20:16.40 | Jagannath | I see. |
| 20:16.40 | Thunder_Child | (after you quit the game i mean) |
| 20:17.28 | Jagannath | So could you use the same database logic, however it works, to log a combatlog in there as well? |
| 20:18.26 | Thunder_Child | im not sure what you mean. can you send some or all of the combatlog data to the SV? i think so |
| 20:19.32 | Jagannath | Well since you guys said it's not possible to make WoW write a combatlog to separate files per zone etc. |
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| 20:19.59 | Jagannath | Maybe an addon could sort that out, not using the /combatlog command, but using it's own version of it? |
| 20:19.59 | Guillotine | you could do it in seperate tables and then have a program parse that |
| 20:20.14 | Jagannath | Like the same thing as the WoW log, maybe some extra stuff. |
| 20:20.15 | Guillotine | yah, you'd need to have an addon record the data itself |
| 20:20.37 | Vangual | Transcriptor? :) |
| 20:20.51 | Thunder_Child | it would be nice if you could insert events into the combat log, then you could use that to parse it more easily |
| 20:20.54 | Jagannath | Yea, something like MobInfo2 except it's "database" was a copy of the combatlog that WoW would normally write, just without the limits |
| 20:22.54 | Drayeah | For the combat log thing you could just write an addon that can store timestamps like "entered/left nagrand @ the time" and after you quit wow just run a script on the combat log that takes evetrything between those timestamps and put it in a seperate file |
| 20:25.25 | Jagannath | You mean an addon that added those lines about changing zones, into the WoWCombatLog file? |
| 20:25.48 | Iriel | No, he's saying add the timestamps into a saved variaabe |
| 20:25.51 | Iriel | variable |
| 20:25.53 | Drayeah | Nope, just in the saved variables |
| 20:26.03 | Iriel | and use a script outside of wow afterwards to chop up the monolithic WoW combat log |
| 20:26.14 | Iriel | that's actually quite a nice clean suggestion, I like it |
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| 20:28.11 | Drundia | wtb chat frame logging (like back) |
| 20:28.49 | Jagannath | That's awesome. |
| 20:28.49 | Jagannath | =p |
| 20:28.56 | Jagannath | Now, how do I make all of that? |
| 20:28.57 | Jagannath | Lol. |
| 20:36.51 | Anaral | I wonder... is the read books achievement retroactive? |
| 20:36.57 | ScytheBlade1 | No |
| 20:37.06 | ScytheBlade1 | They don't track it currently |
| 20:37.13 | Anaral | Otay |
| 20:37.19 | Anaral | Good to know |
| 20:37.22 | Lopeppeppy | 'cause I've read everything I came across. I loved the Scarlet Monastery Library. :) |
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| 20:53.18 | ccox | make sure you read all the books in the death knight area - some are entertaining |
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| 21:08.54 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 21:08.55 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=7A10A9CCAD05A7A5EBAB0A28503BD307.app05_06?topicId=9023724548&sid=1 |
| 21:09.37 | Jagannath | Wow lol. |
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| 21:14.32 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm. Take forever to download the best client from Blizz, or take forever to do the patching from my cd install.... |
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| 21:15.46 | Xuerian | ScytheBlade1: Fail, what was in it |
| 21:16.49 | Anaral | Is there a way to get an item's texture to show on the right side of the line, instead of the left? |
| 21:17.26 | Anaral | In a tooltip. |
| 21:17.27 | Iriel | Speaking of books, Bookworm is available for 3.0 (in the wowi beta section) |
| 21:17.55 | ScytheBlade1 | wtf? I search my local library for "High Performance MySQL" and "Doping", "Bull Fighting", "Stress", "Drug Abuse" and "Airplane" pulls up |
| 21:18.22 | Lopeppeppy | "performance", "high performance" |
| 21:19.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Apparently |
| 21:19.25 | ScytheBlade1 | They don't have WoW Programming in there either |
| 21:19.25 | ScytheBlade1 | :( |
| 21:20.25 | foxlit | MySQL is clearly not in index |
| 21:20.29 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 21:21.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Bleh, and it's $32 + S&H via amazon |
| 21:21.46 | foxlit | which leaves you with High Performance |
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| 21:24.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Which for whatever reason reminds me of e-mail spam |
| 21:24.27 | Thunder_Child | mysql books huh? |
| 21:24.56 | ScytheBlade1 | I really need to learn more about proper indexing :( |
| 21:25.13 | Thunder_Child | you and me both then |
| 21:25.38 | ScytheBlade1 | And the people who wrote that book are kind of demi-gods when it comes to MySQL in general |
| 21:41.17 | Gnarfoz | does anyone remember that quote about languages, that let english be the language that mugs other languages in dark alleys and searches their pockets for leftover grammar? ;D can't find it :( |
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| 21:45.07 | Gnarfoz | "English doesnât borrow from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar." |
| 21:45.13 | Gnarfoz | google prevails |
| 21:45.24 | Jagannath | Lol. |
| 21:50.10 | foxlit | nglish is the only language that beats up other languages in a dark alley and rummages around in their pockets for spare vocabulary |
| 21:51.39 | Gnarfoz | =) |
| 21:51.39 | foxlit | ~google english "dark alley" language grammar |
| 21:52.15 | Gnarfoz | I had english dark alley grammar loose mug pockets languages |
| 21:52.17 | Gnarfoz | I think |
| 21:52.18 | Gnarfoz | :D |
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| 21:58.24 | Iriel | that sounds like something from Bill Bryson |
| 22:00.52 | Iriel | But it's apparently not! http://goodcatmum.blogspot.com/2007/07/thrill-of-thesauruses.html |
| 22:12.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Mmm, going to see the Dark Knight in IMAX tonight |
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| 22:20.28 | Kirov | Dude, that movie sucked |
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| 22:32.53 | Sixen | I heard it was good, =o. |
| 22:34.18 | Kirov | s/sucked/best movie I've seen in years/ |
| 22:34.24 | Kirov | :) |
| 22:35.46 | |pez| | I thought it was awesome. :P |
| 22:41.42 | cbreak | I am still waiting for Wall-E to finally come into the cinema... |
| 22:46.02 | ccox | "waiting"? Wow, where are you that they haven't found you yet? |
| 22:48.14 | cbreak | what? |
| 22:48.40 | cbreak | the projected release date around here is 25th of september |
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| 22:49.20 | Guillotine | o.O where is that? |
| 22:49.32 | Guillotine | in the US its been out for months |
| 22:50.25 | cbreak | switzerland |
| 22:50.36 | cbreak | I heard it's already out in the french part |
| 22:50.57 | cbreak | maybe I should just download it... |
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| 22:51.15 | Guillotine | its really not the greatest movie |
| 22:52.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow |
| 22:52.22 | ScytheBlade1 | A guild on my server that rerolled entierely is 5/5 9/9 5/6 in just about a month |
| 22:52.40 | Jagannath | :o |
| 22:52.45 | selckin | it's about the experience of the players not gear |
| 22:53.08 | Pneumatus | a testament that skill ? gear |
| 22:53.14 | Pneumatus | s/?/>/ |
| 22:53.43 | ScytheBlade1 | They went from Gruul to Illidan in 19 days |
| 22:54.24 | erikd | with 3 tokens dropping now i'd believe it |
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| 22:54.32 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v Lopeppeppy] by ChanServ |
| 22:54.41 | Pneumatus | plus, you can pretty much gear with badge of justice also |
| 22:54.52 | Lopeppeppy | Staring at the download meter does not make it go faster. *nod* |
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| 22:55.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope, it sure doesn't! |
| 22:57.55 | ScytheBlade1 | ~hug Lopeppeppy |
| 22:57.55 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Lopeppeppy |
| 22:58.03 | Lopeppeppy | Aww, thanks. |
| 23:01.21 | Corrodias | sadly... |
| 23:19.30 | Gnarfoz | ScytheBlade1: you're not on blackrock by chance? :p |
| 23:19.59 | Gnarfoz | (the guild in question being DnT) |
| 23:20.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Gnarfoz: nope |
| 23:20.52 | Gnarfoz | zomg there's others that are soooo pro? do tell, I wanna be a fanboi! |
| 23:21.09 | Gnarfoz | actually no, but they just came to mind because they did almost exactly what you described |
| 23:21.12 | Gnarfoz | =) |
| 23:21.16 | |pez| | purl, I like you, can you bee my friend? |
| 23:21.17 | purl | You like you, can you bee my friend? |
| 23:21.26 | |pez| | ... |
| 23:21.36 | |pez| | be* |
| 23:24.05 | Anaral | Wow, random beta picks are hit and miss... A very annoying guy from my server who barely knows what an addon is, is here. |
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| 23:25.10 | |pez| | They need someone to pick out the flaws of blizzards own ui stuff ;P |
| 23:26.41 | |pez| | It makes me sad that everyone thinks that if you have a @ in a supportchannel, they can message you randomly with questions. |
| 23:27.55 | |pez| | And now I'm not talking about asking to PM first, nono. I'm talking about joining the channel and PMing me is the first thing they do. :P |
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| 23:35.48 | kd3 | so, deop yourself? there's a reason why I'm so rarely opped in #wowwiki |
| 23:36.09 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 23:36.48 | Tekkub | *cry* Wrath's crashing with an error involving a texture... and the repair tool refuses to run |
| 23:37.00 | ScytheBlade1 | The repair tool doesn't work with Wrath |
| 23:37.06 | ScytheBlade1 | You can either fix it or reinstall! |
| 23:37.07 | Tekkub | obviously |
| 23:42.13 | Duman | heh |
| 23:50.50 | Gnarfoz | Tekkub: seriously: try rebooting. |
| 23:51.07 | Gnarfoz | for some weird reason, it helps me in such cases. I have absolutely no clue why. |
| 23:51.38 | Tekkub | actually it hasn't happened yet this session |
| 23:51.43 | Tekkub | so we'll see |
| 23:51.50 | Tekkub | but it takes a LOT to get me to reboot |
| 23:52.08 | Tekkub | new windows updates usually aren't enough |
| 23:52.09 | Gnarfoz | uhm yeah, sounded differently from what you said |
| 23:52.14 | Gnarfoz | my cases are like |
| 23:52.20 | cncfanatics | anyone feel like estimating what the chances of success are for a pug on lady vashj ? :p |
| 23:52.27 | Gnarfoz | it crashes on login, reproducably, every time, until I reboot |
| 23:52.39 | Gnarfoz | cncfanatics: depending on gear: everything is possible |
| 23:52.52 | Gnarfoz | also, this only happens after standby. weeeeird. |
| 23:52.53 | cncfanatics | brains > gear for vashj |
| 23:52.53 | Tekkub | no this is like random when it's trying to load that texture for some other player |
| 23:52.58 | Gnarfoz | cncfanatics: absolutely not |
| 23:53.25 | Gnarfoz | cncfanatics: gear > brains for vashj, we just established that for ourselves recently. we were thinking the other way around, too |
| 23:53.41 | cbreak | you can fail to both... |
| 23:53.41 | Gnarfoz | but when you really drill it down, vashj is nothing but one big fucking DPS fight |
| 23:53.43 | cncfanatics | well, you can have full swp gear for vashk |
| 23:53.49 | cncfanatics | if u fail with the cores u wipe |
| 23:53.52 | Gnarfoz | no you don't |
| 23:53.59 | Gnarfoz | because you have enough dps to kill striders |
| 23:54.04 | Gnarfoz | and elites |
| 23:54.06 | Gnarfoz | indefinitely |
| 23:54.18 | Gnarfoz | I think we botched 5 cores or something |
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| 23:54.32 | Gnarfoz | and still had no trouble finishing p3 without deaths |
| 23:55.02 | Gnarfoz | and we're just farming illidan for 3-4 IDs now, so no swp gear involved |
| 23:55.21 | Gnarfoz | although we took our sweet time to progress through BT, so the average gear level is good =) |
| 23:56.53 | |pez| | kd3: The thing is, someone needs to actually stay as an OP and smile and be happy and helpfull, to give newcomers a cozy feeling ;P |
| 23:57.30 | |pez| | It's a rather small support channel, and we'd like to get people to stay, so we get more people who know a little about something. |
| 23:58.28 | cbreak | one word: AliceBot. :) |
| 23:58.48 | |pez| | :P |
