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| 00:04.18 | |Jelly| | You has moar freckles? Do tell. |
| 00:04.42 | Dimitri | XHTML Cookies! All for meee |
| 00:05.05 | Lopeppeppy | Too much sun, delicate redhead... my nose is all frecklesome now! |
| 00:05.43 | |Jelly| | Hmm |
| 00:08.43 | Dimitri | !pat |
| 00:09.28 | Lopeppeppy | Everyone says I'm cute now. *mournful sigh* |
| 00:09.47 | Lopeppeppy | WTB Freckle Juice, pst |
| 00:09.53 | |Jelly| | ~giggle |
| 00:09.54 | purl | teeheehee! |
| 00:12.07 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy, being cute is a bad thing? |
| 00:12.28 | Dimitri | Ask Mr.Arthas Menethil |
| 00:13.02 | Thunder_Child | ok, but that didnt exactly (or in any way) answer my question |
| 00:13.29 | Thunder_Child | Dimitri, does arthas have cute issues as well? |
| 00:13.51 | ScytheBlade1 | That's a good sign |
| 00:13.55 | ScytheBlade1 | World server died... on live! |
| 00:14.15 | Lopeppeppy | No one is serious about someone who is "cute". That's like I might as well be a kitten for all the good it will do me. Cute is like the black plague for a single girl. |
| 00:14.34 | Dimitri | True. |
| 00:15.18 | Dimitri | About arthas: He got a nice face and heirstyle as living, and undead. But as character its not anything special |
| 00:16.00 | Corrodias | what? when did arthas become a single girl? |
| 00:16.00 | Thunder_Child | cute is merely a word, the meaning behind it changes from person to person. |
| 00:16.03 | alestane | It has been asserted that the concept of "cute" is directly tied to the perception of helplessness. |
| 00:16.05 | Corrodias | or did i miss something |
| 00:16.11 | Lopeppeppy | What alestane said. |
| 00:16.27 | Thunder_Child | i never heard that |
| 00:16.35 | alestane | That's why "You're so cute when you're mad" is so disempowering. |
| 00:16.44 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm-hmm. |
| 00:16.45 | Codayus | On the other hand, helplessness can be attractive, although possibly only to the sort of people you wish wouldn't be. |
| 00:16.55 | Thunder_Child | but saying, your so hot when your mad is fine? |
| 00:16.58 | Lopeppeppy | What Codayus said. |
| 00:17.00 | Dimitri | The true cuteness is the one inside the soul. |
| 00:17.02 | Corrodias | *shrug* i like what i like |
| 00:17.30 | Lopeppeppy | Thunder_Child, I'd rather be ogre-ass ugly than brushed off as "cute" |
| 00:17.35 | alestane | My wife enjoys *acting* cute, but she wouldn't actually want to *be* cute. |
| 00:17.36 | Codayus | In my experience ANY comment about what a girl is like when she's mad is inappropriate when she's mad. The correct response is to nod, agree, and run. |
| 00:17.51 | Corrodias | Codayus: if you have no self-respect maybe |
| 00:18.19 | Lopeppeppy | Don't comment on what the person is like, just work out the issue. No need to diminish anyone with labels. |
| 00:18.21 | Corrodias | cowering... i hate to see that |
| 00:18.23 | g0urra | Yeah you could just slap her in the face |
| 00:18.26 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy. like i said it varies from person to person, i view cute as just another word for attractive. |
| 00:18.30 | g0urra | IM RICK JAMES BITCH |
| 00:18.43 | Dimitri | ... |
| 00:18.56 | Codayus | *shrug* Self-respect I have. An urge to play with fire I don't have. |
| 00:19.06 | Corrodias | okay, if Lopeppeppy feels cute is weak, and doesn't want to be cute... well, she canmake herself less cute |
| 00:19.07 | Dimitri | Why you have interrupted this intresting discussion? |
| 00:19.25 | Lopeppeppy | You can always work out relative vocabulary with your partner, Thunder_Child. If it means the same thing for both people, it's groovy. |
| 00:19.31 | Dimitri | *Talking to g0urra* |
| 00:20.12 | foxlit | hah, nice |
| 00:20.13 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy, right, which is why i was confused when you meantioned your feelings about cute |
| 00:20.22 | foxlit | finding two mining nodes in close proximity == free skill points |
| 00:21.11 | Lopeppeppy | I find it to be more of what alestane explained. Cute is a label for diminishing the recipient 9 times out of ten in my redneck upbringing experience. |
| 00:21.18 | Dimitri | Everyone got its own cute part. |
| 00:21.41 | Thunder_Child | meh @ generalizations |
| 00:21.44 | Lopeppeppy | "Aww, the little lady is so cute when she's mad. Now go fetch us some more beer sweet thing, and let the men talk." |
| 00:21.59 | Diao | It just depends on the culture.. girls from Asia tend to want to be perceived as cute. |
| 00:22.06 | Corrodias | yeah, well, i don't respect rednecks much either |
| 00:22.09 | Lopeppeppy | Very true, Diao. |
| 00:22.10 | Diao | And we Asian guys like it. :P |
| 00:22.25 | g0urra | KAWAII DESU NEE ^____^ |
| 00:22.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: that seems like less about the implications of 'cute' than it does the misogynistic tendencies of individuals. :P |
| 00:22.54 | Thunder_Child | are we sure g0urra isnt Fisker- hiding in another nick? |
| 00:23.00 | g0urra | >:3 |
| 00:23.02 | Diao | haha |
| 00:23.05 | Lopeppeppy | Attach them to a commonly used word, NightHawkTheSane... I'm sure you can think of some words that are used that way, dear. |
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| 00:24.43 | alestane | Anime also does recognize a rather warped sort of "cute power" that I might describe as "bitch cute". |
| 00:25.09 | Lopeppeppy | Care Bear Stare! |
| 00:26.56 | Corrodias | hm |
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| 00:30.47 | Tem | ~devtools |
| 00:30.47 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 00:31.08 | MusicMan | Iriel made that? damn. |
| 00:31.18 | MusicMan | I'm in the presence of a celebrity |
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| 00:31.56 | Kaso | http://kalleboo.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/6a/6a726422387c52eda3844ae8d633dea114a3ce6b.jpg (nws, but pretty awesome) |
| 00:32.04 | Kaso | Celebrity? |
| 00:32.34 | MusicMan | rofl |
| 00:32.36 | MusicMan | that's awesome |
| 00:33.28 | Thunder_Child | i assume there was some digital editing |
| 00:33.33 | Corrodias | i am impressed |
| 00:33.45 | Thunder_Child | or the lady on the left of the eye is very very pink |
| 00:33.58 | Kaso | she does seem abnormally pink |
| 00:34.19 | Corrodias | i think most of the others look a little.. unpink |
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| 00:36.09 | Thunder_Child | looks like it was part of a larger image http://www.advertka.ru/files/5959_1200850704.jpg |
| 00:36.20 | Kaso | Good googling |
| 00:36.24 | Kaso | thats awesome.. |
| 00:36.38 | Kaso | though no way they got that many people together in one go |
| 00:36.45 | Thunder_Child | didnt google actually, i TinEye'd it |
| 00:36.47 | Kaso | must have been stitched together |
| 00:36.56 | Corrodias | TinEye i am not familiar with |
| 00:36.58 | Thunder_Child | http://tineye.com/ |
| 00:37.06 | Thunder_Child | search the image, not the name |
| 00:37.10 | Kaso | thats awesome, never seen that before |
| 00:37.11 | Thunder_Child | searches* |
| 00:37.40 | Corrodias | impressive... oh, private beta |
| 00:38.06 | Thunder_Child | i got accepted within 2 days, i suspect most people do |
| 00:39.00 | Ackis | tinyeye boobies? :D |
| 00:39.08 | DARKGuy | HAHA |
| 00:39.12 | DARKGuy | that'd be awesome |
| 00:39.39 | Corrodias | i have mixed feeling about having to be "invited" or "accepted" into things |
| 00:39.50 | Corrodias | i think i'll just wait until they let anybody have it |
| 00:40.10 | Kaso | more companies should use the phrase "itsy bitsy teeny weeny" in their promotional videos |
| 00:40.18 | foxlit | grr, non-informative video |
| 00:40.23 | foxlit | fingerprint this, fingerprint that |
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| 00:42.24 | DARKGuy | Kirov!! |
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| 00:44.40 | Kirov | It wasn't me! |
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| 00:45.50 | DARKGuy | lol |
| 00:46.54 | DARKGuy | Kirov, hey, what do you think if I try to Ace3 your DiabloGlobes, make it some config gui, and do it some modifications? I recently made it so when you're dead, the both globes turn white instead of being empty o.o |
| 00:47.35 | Corrodias | white is for ghost |
| 00:47.35 | DARKGuy | yeah |
| 00:47.35 | Corrodias | SO THERE |
| 00:47.35 | DARKGuy | but it doesn't do that D: |
| 00:47.35 | DARKGuy | until I added it ¬¬ |
| 00:47.35 | Kirov | I think amro started doing some of that as well. |
| 00:47.42 | DARKGuy | really? |
| 00:47.51 | Kirov | well, the ace stuff, not sure how far he got |
| 00:48.10 | Kirov | I'm still working on cleaning up some animation stuff. |
| 00:48.29 | DARKGuy | still @.@ |
| 00:49.02 | Kirov | yeahs, some stuff I'm not happy with |
| 00:50.26 | DARKGuy | I see :/ ... ah well, if I Ace3 it and such, have you put it somewhere so I can check for your latest updates o.o? |
| 00:51.21 | Kirov | the last version was the 8.5 one |
| 00:51.36 | Kirov | if you have that, that's the most recent I've released. |
| 00:52.03 | DARKGuy | Lol, not really :( |
| 00:52.07 | DARKGuy | according to the toc I have 0.1 o.O |
| 00:53.03 | Thunder_Child | Your search - 1205739064_untitled - did not match any documents. |
| 00:53.03 | Thunder_Child | Results have been omitted at your request. If you'd like, you can repeat your search with the omitted results included. |
| 00:53.05 | DARKGuy | where do I get the latest one? |
| 00:53.10 | Thunder_Child | i dont get that |
| 00:53.42 | Thunder_Child | it didnt find anything to omit.... |
| 00:54.29 | Kirov | the toc revision is 0.1 |
| 00:54.48 | Kirov | It's pre-release, so I don't bother with toc revisions |
| 00:54.50 | Kirov | :P |
| 00:55.25 | DARKGuy | XD |
| 00:55.40 | DARKGuy | Kirov, whats the link then? <.< I'm very sure I'm using an outdated version :P |
| 00:56.00 | Kirov | If the version you have has the dark outside rings with the 1 pixel highlight, it's the most recent |
| 00:56.01 | Kirov | otherwise |
| 00:56.07 | Kirov | http://cyberartist.shackspace.com/wow/DiabloGlobes.8.5.zip |
| 00:56.28 | DARKGuy | No, it doesnt xD |
| 00:57.05 | DARKGuy | thanks ^^ |
| 00:58.07 | Ackis | so many games coming out... Spore, WAR, WotLK, SC2, D3... ahhhh /poof (PS: is there any bonus to pre-ordering SPORE?) |
| 00:58.44 | Gnarfoz | yeah, you don't have to buy the other ones. |
| 00:59.02 | Ackis | heh |
| 00:59.13 | Kirov | Ackis - I think you get a petri dish with some random bacteria in it from the mouth of Will Wright |
| 00:59.16 | Corrodias | WAR is warhammer online? why is it abbreviated "WAR" anyway? |
| 00:59.45 | Gnarfoz | because it's Warhammer: Age of Reckoning |
| 00:59.54 | Corrodias | ah |
| 01:00.05 | Corrodias | so they gave it a title at some point |
| 01:00.08 | Kirov | And W:AoR looks like something a hick would say |
| 01:00.28 | Gnarfoz | just say 'that other over-hyped mmo' |
| 01:00.35 | Kirov | heh |
| 01:02.22 | Gnarfoz | wtf |
| 01:02.30 | Corrodias | well, i've had my fill of MMORPG's |
| 01:02.34 | Gnarfoz | Defcon has a 20mbit internet uplink? |
| 01:02.43 | Gnarfoz | how lame is that |
| 01:02.43 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 01:02.56 | Thunder_Child | quite |
| 01:03.12 | Corrodias | my hope of enjoying Spore is fading, since it's a "sandbox" type of game and we never get along |
| 01:03.56 | Corrodias | SC2 is an RTS and i'm abysmally bad at those to the point that i can't enjoy it... so yeah, looking forward to diablo 3 :/ |
| 01:04.09 | Thunder_Child | where is the OC-768 connection for defcon? |
| 01:06.23 | Gnarfoz | how slow/fast is that? |
| 01:06.29 | Gnarfoz | those terms should be phased out >_> |
| 01:06.35 | Thunder_Child | ~40Gbit/s |
| 01:07.01 | Gnarfoz | I mean STS-blah, OC-n, T-, E- etc with that ^^ |
| 01:08.52 | MusicMan | it still says my addon is incompatible, even though I changed the interface number in the toc |
| 01:10.00 | Gnarfoz | live? beta? to what did you change it? |
| 01:10.17 | MusicMan | 20403 |
| 01:10.24 | MusicMan | or should it be 2040303 |
| 01:10.52 | Gnarfoz | live? beta? |
| 01:10.56 | MusicMan | what's live |
| 01:11.04 | Gnarfoz | that which is not beta. |
| 01:11.06 | cbreak | live is what you play |
| 01:11.08 | MusicMan | sure |
| 01:11.08 | Thunder_Child | the non-beta servers |
| 01:11.09 | MusicMan | live |
| 01:11.15 | Gnarfoz | 20400 is current, then |
| 01:11.16 | cbreak | beta is what you do when you want to fall out of cities into certain doom |
| 01:11.23 | MusicMan | lol |
| 01:11.37 | Thunder_Child | really? i always think of it as uncertian doom |
| 01:11.45 | Gnarfoz | and it shouldn't show "Incompatiable" unless something's very wrong with your TOC |
| 01:11.46 | MusicMan | I don't deserve you guys |
| 01:12.01 | cbreak | honestly, the only time when I died more to falling out of cities was when I leveled near stormwind, and got the blink spell. |
| 01:12.17 | Sixen | *waves* |
| 01:12.31 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Sixen |
| 01:12.31 | purl | pours gasoline all over Sixen, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze |
| 01:12.47 | Sixen | Hope that tasted good. |
| 01:12.48 | Thunder_Child | .... |
| 01:13.00 | Sixen | Marshmallows topped with Sixen Sauce. |
| 01:13.00 | Thunder_Child | i dont like marshmallows |
| 01:13.04 | Sixen | You do now. |
| 01:13.08 | Thunder_Child | do not |
| 01:13.13 | Sixen | :( |
| 01:13.16 | Thunder_Child | ~eat Sixen |
| 01:13.17 | purl | ACTION eats Sixen and falls over dead |
| 01:13.21 | Sixen | Do you like me? |
| 01:13.22 | Sixen | ;) |
| 01:13.56 | Thunder_Child | uhhh...that kinda a personal question with all of the voyers around here |
| 01:14.09 | Sixen | :P |
| 01:14.13 | Corrodias | >_> |
| 01:14.15 | Sixen | Lawl. <3 |
| 01:14.27 | Thunder_Child | ya Corrodias, with you on the /inside/ |
| 01:16.04 | MusicMan | still getting incompatible |
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| 01:16.48 | Thunder_Child | bah, 18 hours of not eating is starting to catch up to me |
| 01:17.07 | Thunder_Child | s/18/16/ |
| 01:17.56 | MusicMan | it's not incompatible anymore! |
| 01:19.01 | haste | always sucks when you typo Interfac in the toc |
| 01:19.10 | Lopeppeppy | Um-yeah |
| 01:19.15 | MusicMan | how come I can't move my frame in game >.> |
| 01:19.36 | haste | you should know that yourself if it's your frame :p |
| 01:19.47 | MusicMan | do I have to do something to it? |
| 01:19.49 | MusicMan | ugh |
| 01:22.02 | MusicMan | man do i love debug messages |
| 01:23.55 | haste | think there's a guide on wowwiki, I'm feeling lazy :p |
| 01:24.01 | cbreak | you have to set it as movable |
| 01:24.09 | cbreak | and maybe even register some handlers? |
| 01:24.22 | MusicMan | well, too lazy to do all that, I'll keep it the way it is |
| 01:24.23 | MusicMan | :P |
| 01:24.24 | cbreak | in my frames I have a click event that sets up movement and resize anchors. |
| 01:24.36 | cbreak | maybe there's an easier way :) |
| 01:24.59 | cbreak | but my addons are practically unchanged from version 1 of wow, and still work, so they use ancient coding practices |
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| 01:27.15 | Corrodias | well |
| 01:27.33 | Corrodias | they must use very simple ones, at least, if they didn't touch anything that has changed since then |
| 01:28.15 | cbreak | I had to change some things, but the frame code is not one of those. They are indeed simple, no casting or other protected stuff |
| 01:28.25 | cbreak | just analyzing data and displaying it in a frame. |
| 01:28.47 | cbreak | I had to change one of them at the big combat log change |
| 01:30.10 | MusicMan | my frame...dissapeared...O.O |
| 01:31.05 | cbreak | is it still there? :) |
| 01:31.14 | cbreak | maybe it's just transparent |
| 01:31.17 | cbreak | or it's hidden |
| 01:31.20 | cbreak | or it's not there |
| 01:31.34 | cbreak | if it's not there you should not be able to call it from lua |
| 01:31.54 | cbreak | if it's there but hidden or transparent, you can ask it with lua where it is and what parameters it has |
| 01:32.08 | MusicMan | xD |
| 01:32.16 | MusicMan | I have no idea |
| 01:32.28 | cbreak | that's a good start to learn something :) |
| 01:32.46 | MusicMan | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:32.53 | cbreak | every addon, yes |
| 01:32.57 | MusicMan | k |
| 01:33.01 | MusicMan | well |
| 01:33.02 | MusicMan | damn |
| 01:33.07 | cbreak | http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API has many pointers :) |
| 01:33.09 | MusicMan | I have no idea what I did wrong |
| 01:33.19 | MusicMan | it was there a second ago |
| 01:33.37 | cbreak | and then you got distracted, and when you looked back it was gone? :) |
| 01:33.42 | MusicMan | no |
| 01:33.47 | MusicMan | then I changed some code |
| 01:33.50 | MusicMan | then I reloaded |
| 01:33.51 | MusicMan | and it was gone |
| 01:33.57 | cbreak | undo! :) |
| 01:34.03 | MusicMan | I thought it was because I deleted the function OnInitialize, but then when I put it back it was there again |
| 01:34.06 | cbreak | (do you use a scm? if not, consider it) |
| 01:34.14 | MusicMan | what's scm |
| 01:34.26 | cbreak | a source code management system |
| 01:34.29 | End | MusicMan: are you sure it compiles properly? |
| 01:34.41 | MusicMan | I'm pretty sure? |
| 01:34.55 | cbreak | there's a log file you could try to look at |
| 01:34.59 | End | the xml has to be well-formed, and any syntax errors in your code will cause issues |
| 01:35.21 | End | yeah, check FrameXML.log |
| 01:36.27 | MusicMan | I just use the addon studio |
| 01:36.30 | MusicMan | so the xml was generated |
| 01:37.12 | cbreak | ... back in the days I wrote my xml files with a magnifying glass on a CD-R! |
| 01:37.24 | MusicMan | -.- |
| 01:37.29 | MusicMan | ugh |
| 01:37.36 | MusicMan | it was working like 2 seconds ago |
| 01:37.38 | MusicMan | and now it's not :( |
| 01:38.45 | MusicMan | alright |
| 01:38.50 | MusicMan | I reloaded the game |
| 01:38.52 | MusicMan | and it worked again |
| 01:38.54 | MusicMan | xd |
| 01:39.10 | cbreak | if you forget to feed it |
| 01:39.16 | cbreak | your frame will get unhappy and run away |
| 01:41.01 | MusicMan | now wowace doesn't seem to be working |
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| 01:41.50 | MusicMan | "attempt to call global 'AceLibrary' (a nil value)" |
| 01:43.15 | MusicMan | can anyone explain why auto-generated code is giving me an error? o.o |
| 01:43.37 | cbreak | maybe it's wrong :) or a dependency is wrong |
| 01:43.58 | cbreak | does the error message say what is wrong? |
| 01:44.19 | MusicMan | no |
| 01:44.41 | MusicMan | it's one line of code if you want to see it |
| 01:44.42 | MusicMan | QuestMod = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("AceConsole-2.0", "AceEvent-2.0") |
| 01:45.03 | cbreak | Hmm... I have never seen ace used. |
| 01:45.20 | cbreak | do you have ace loaded? |
| 01:45.39 | cbreak | is it loaded before this code is executed? (Is the ace library listed as required in the toc?) |
| 01:45.52 | cbreak | oh, and is this code correct? :) |
| 01:46.06 | Kirov | http://pics.livejournal.com/lanchid/pic/0000bg19 0 awesome |
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| 01:47.09 | MusicMan | I don't know, and no |
| 01:47.15 | MusicMan | so I guess no to the first two |
| 01:47.20 | MusicMan | and probably a no to the third question |
| 01:55.37 | MusicMan | now it's saying [string "Frame:OnLoad"]:1: attempt to call global 'Frame_OnLoad' (a nil value) |
| 01:57.07 | MusicMan | I don't understand :( |
| 01:57.13 | Shirik | what's your code look like? |
| 01:57.17 | Shirik | Better yet, what's your TOC look like |
| 01:57.20 | MusicMan | which part |
| 01:57.24 | Shirik | I'm willing to bet your TOC is out of order |
| 01:57.31 | MusicMan | it's highly possible |
| 01:57.45 | cbreak | do you have a global function with that name? if so, bad choice of naming |
| 01:57.49 | MusicMan | http://pastebin.com/m16bb1e4f\ |
| 01:57.51 | MusicMan | http://pastebin.com/m16bb1e4f |
| 01:57.58 | Shirik | ok, pastebin |
| 01:58.02 | Shirik | makes me want to stab my eyes out |
| 01:58.09 | MusicMan | -.- |
| 01:58.11 | Shirik | however your TOC looks ok |
| 01:58.21 | MusicMan | why does pastebin want to make you stab your eyes out |
| 01:58.30 | Shirik | because the choice of colors is worse than like neon green on black |
| 01:58.34 | cbreak | it's not poison green on black! |
| 01:58.46 | MusicMan | lol |
| 01:58.50 | MusicMan | alright |
| 01:58.51 | MusicMan | soooo |
| 01:58.56 | MusicMan | what's the next coarse of action? >.> |
| 01:58.56 | Shirik | Anyway, MusicMan, that being said, what's your Lua file look like |
| 01:59.15 | cbreak | you won't get around defining that function or not calling it |
| 01:59.21 | MusicMan | just that OnLoad part? |
| 01:59.33 | MusicMan | all it is is function QuestMod_OnLoad() and then end |
| 01:59.52 | Shirik | uh |
| 02:00.00 | MusicMan | I take it that's bad |
| 02:00.03 | Arrowmaster | ok step 1 |
| 02:00.07 | Shirik | and your <OnLoad> script says Frame_OnLoad()? |
| 02:00.13 | Arrowmaster | stop using AddOnStudio |
| 02:00.16 | MusicMan | rofl |
| 02:00.23 | lonk | anyone want to identify themselves as a Secure Templars officer? So I can pester for invite? :) |
| 02:00.37 | Shirik | lonk: Stop being evil and go horde |
| 02:00.38 | MusicMan | if you say so |
| 02:00.49 | Shirik | MusicMan: Your XML file has an <OnLoad> element. What does it say? |
| 02:00.55 | MusicMan | let me check |
| 02:01.11 | lonk | dang this client has my wrong nick! |
| 02:01.27 | cbreak | remember: names are holy. |
| 02:01.28 | Arrowmaster | it obviously says Frame_OnLoad because it was automaticly created by addonstudio |
| 02:01.38 | MusicMan | yea...that's it :D |
| 02:01.51 | cbreak | don't blame the tools... :) |
| 02:01.57 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: I've never used addonstudio |
| 02:01.59 | Shirik | so I don't know |
| 02:02.03 | cbreak | (you should have used a magnifying glass) |
| 02:02.07 | Shirik | if it says Frame_OnLoad() |
| 02:02.16 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: i only know that he was using it because of the TOC |
| 02:02.24 | Shirik | it needs to say QuestMod_OnLoad() |
| 02:03.22 | MusicMan | changed |
| 02:03.27 | MusicMan | more errors! |
| 02:03.45 | MusicMan | now it has a problem with self |
| 02:03.49 | MusicMan | is that a wowace thing? |
| 02:03.54 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 02:03.56 | Arrowmaster | its a lua thing |
| 02:03.58 | alestane | Night Gnomish guru. |
| 02:04.00 | MusicMan | interesting... |
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| 02:04.11 | cbreak | it's the default name for the first parameter in functions |
| 02:04.14 | MusicMan | attempt to index global 'self' (a nil value) |
| 02:04.14 | alestane | try changing it to QuestMod_OnLoad(self). |
| 02:04.16 | cbreak | if you define them as method |
| 02:04.35 | MusicMan | different place this time |
| 02:04.37 | Arrowmaster | with out the period |
| 02:05.46 | Arrowmaster | this is why i hate addonstudio |
| 02:05.52 | Arrowmaster | automagic is autofail |
| 02:05.59 | MusicMan | lol |
| 02:06.52 | cbreak | no chance to shoot yourself into the feet |
| 02:06.58 | cbreak | no feets are left to shoot at. |
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| 02:08.02 | cbreak | MusicMan: If you use a name for something, that something usually has to be defined somewhere |
| 02:08.23 | MusicMan | well renaming the Frame thing in the xml file fixed that problem |
| 02:08.24 | cbreak | self is in most cases in scope of a method, locally defined |
| 02:08.30 | MusicMan | but now I have a different one |
| 02:08.40 | MusicMan | oh you were explaining self |
| 02:08.43 | cbreak | if you call self and it doesn't find it, you did not define it in your method |
| 02:08.51 | MusicMan | k... |
| 02:09.19 | cbreak | instead of "myFunc = function () self:DoSomething() end" |
| 02:09.36 | cbreak | you have to do "myFunc = function (self) self:DoSomething() end" |
| 02:09.49 | cbreak | and of course when you call myFunction, you have to pass it as argument |
| 02:11.07 | MusicMan | brb |
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| 02:17.30 | cbreak | well, night :) |
| 02:17.35 | cbreak | and good luck with your addon |
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| 02:23.58 | Cralor` | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/93481 - anyone able to tell me how stupid i am for not figuring out why i am not getting the elseifs right? |
| 02:24.36 | Tekkub | you're ending the block |
| 02:24.51 | Cralor` | no end after the first if? |
| 02:25.03 | Tekkub | if ... then ... elseif ... then ... else ... end |
| 02:25.47 | Cralor` | what if i want more than 1 extra parameter? |
| 02:26.11 | Cralor` | (behavior of elseif) |
| 02:26.44 | Adys | Anyone know what the third value is in a playerLink? |
| 02:26.49 | Adys | player:Adys:1515 |
| 02:27.44 | Arrowmaster | guessing its not guid? |
| 02:27.52 | Adys | its not |
| 02:28.01 | Adys | it seems to be related to the number of lines said/recieved |
| 02:28.23 | Adys | eg it increases of 1 most of the time i say something |
| 02:28.33 | Shirik | Cralor`: Get rid of the "end"s |
| 02:28.35 | Shirik | nm... |
| 02:28.45 | Arrowmaster | Adys: thats interesting |
| 02:29.05 | Adys | also it doesnt reset after rebooting the game and deleting WTF/ |
| 02:29.10 | Adys | so its some serverside value |
| 02:29.21 | kd3 | it's for the spam reporting thing |
| 02:29.30 | Arrowmaster | Adys: check to see if its related to the counter arg in http://www.wowprogramming.com/docs/events/CHAT_MSG_SAY |
| 02:29.43 | Adys | kd3: would make sense |
| 02:29.58 | Arrowmaster | if it is, i can think of a very good use for it |
| 02:30.11 | Arrowmaster | chat filters =D |
| 02:30.24 | Adys | how would you make that work? |
| 02:30.56 | Arrowmaster | use it to only do processing once per filter and cache the result |
| 02:31.19 | Arrowmaster | instead of 7+number of addons using chatfilters per event |
| 02:32.16 | Yssaril | what does the __call metamethod do? |
| 02:32.32 | Arrowmaster | lets you invoke the table as a function |
| 02:32.35 | Tekkub | LibStub("Blah") |
| 02:32.41 | alestane | Yssaril: Defines what happens if you use the function syntax with something. |
| 02:33.24 | Shirik | lua> foo = setmetatable({}, {__call = print}); foo() |
| 02:33.24 | lua_bot | Shirik: table: 0x685f40 |
| 02:33.57 | Yssaril | ic |
| 02:34.05 | Shirik | lua> foo = setmetatable({}, {__call = setmetatable({}, {__call = print})}); foo() |
| 02:34.05 | lua_bot | Shirik: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'foo' (a table value) |
| 02:34.08 | Shirik | boo |
| 02:34.32 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 02:34.36 | Arrowmaster | not recurseive |
| 02:34.38 | Tekkub | self is passed as first arg |
| 02:34.46 | Arrowmaster | which could be good |
| 02:35.00 | alestane | lua> foo = setmetatable({'a', 'b', 'c'}, {__call = function (t) return table.concat(t, ' ') end}) foo() |
| 02:35.00 | lua_bot | alestane: No output |
| 02:35.09 | Tekkub | lua> foo = setmetatable({}, {__call = print}); foo("bar") |
| 02:35.09 | lua_bot | Tekkub: table: 0x685f40, bar |
| 02:35.11 | Shirik | return foo :) |
| 02:35.13 | alestane | lua> foo = setmetatable({'a', 'b', 'c'}, {__call = function (t) return table.concat(t, ' ') end}) print(foo()) |
| 02:35.13 | lua_bot | alestane: a b c |
| 02:35.53 | Arrowmaster | lua> setmetatable({'a', 'b', 'c'}, {__call = function (t) return table.concat(t, ' ') end})() |
| 02:35.54 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: a b c |
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| 02:42.03 | Cralor` | ok i fixed that issue. now i'm stumped. =( http://wowuidev.pastey.net/93483 |
| 02:44.12 | Kirov | what are you seeing? |
| 02:44.23 | Cralor` | when i typed the commands, nothing |
| 02:44.27 | Cralor` | type* |
| 02:49.13 | Cralor` | no ideas? |
| 02:51.26 | Shirik|Ecole | lua> 8^3 |
| 02:51.27 | lua_bot | Shirik|Ecole: 512 |
| 02:51.39 | Iriel | Cralor`: even when you type /runemover blah ? |
| 02:51.47 | Cralor` | yah =( |
| 02:51.49 | Iriel | Cralor`: You dont get your message in your **MAIN** chat frame? |
| 02:51.55 | Cralor` | nope |
| 02:52.04 | Cralor` | it's suppose to do something to the frame |
| 02:52.24 | Kirov | Cralor` - what happens if you use /script RuneMover_SlashHandler() |
| 02:52.33 | Cralor` | 1 sec |
| 02:53.12 | Kirov | That should produce an error, if you don't see anything, turn on UI errors in the interface options |
| 02:54.38 | Cralor` | bad argument #1 to 'find' (string expected, got nil) |
| 02:55.17 | ScytheBlade1 | haha, win |
| 02:55.21 | ScytheBlade1 | My server got GNOME BOMBED |
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| 02:55.59 | Kirov | Cralor` - ok, try again, but this time /script RuneMover_SlashHandler("") |
| 02:57.31 | Cralor` | ok that brings up my "help" stuff (under 'else') |
| 02:57.43 | Shirik|Ecole | ScytheBlade1? |
| 02:58.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Gold sellers |
| 02:58.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Totally just spawned hundreds of gnomes, and killed them in a pattern in IF |
| 02:58.24 | Kirov | Cralor` - ok, so are you putting this in to a lua file and reloading your UI each time you make a change? |
| 02:59.45 | Cralor` | Kirov: yep |
| 03:01.35 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 03:01.42 | ScytheBlade1 | I said in /s as they were just about done cleaning the bodies up |
| 03:01.46 | ScytheBlade1 | "Thanks whomever!" |
| 03:01.51 | ScytheBlade1 | And the GM whispered me back, haha |
| 03:07.01 | Cralor` | Kirov: if i type the wrong criteria, the "help" messages show up. but when i do the right ones, the actions do not "take action" |
| 03:07.27 | Kirov | Ah |
| 03:07.31 | Iriel | Did you remember to remove any OTHER anchors on your frames? |
| 03:07.37 | Iriel | I dont see any ClearAllPoints() |
| 03:08.04 | Kirov | Cralor` - you need to do that for every frame you're setting an anchor on |
| 03:08.49 | Kalroth | Is there a function to get the Group index of a player in a raid? Not the subgroup number, but the index in that group. Or is it on a first serve basis? |
| 03:10.05 | Cralor` | Iriel: ah. thank you i will try that!! i completely forgot |
| 03:10.55 | kd3 | la-de-da bored... soloing ST... just gotta do eranikus now |
| 03:11.36 | Kalroth | remember to clear ALL trash :p |
| 03:12.00 | kd3 | all the dragons, at least |
| 03:12.14 | Kalroth | Yeah, all the trash on the same floor as Eranikus |
| 03:13.51 | Kirov | Cralor` - also, I believe your SetPoint calls are missformed |
| 03:14.40 | |Jelly| | So I just finished the Ebon Hold quest. amg |
| 03:15.04 | alestane | Cralor`: Change 25, 0 to 0, -25 in lines 15-19. |
| 03:15.35 | Cralor` | isn't it (x ,y) |
| 03:15.36 | alestane | lines 9-13 rather. |
| 03:16.04 | alestane | Yes, but you're using an x offset for both horizontal and vertical. |
| 03:16.12 | Cralor` | ohh |
| 03:16.44 | alestane | So, it's changing which points are anchored, but not the offset. |
| 03:17.37 | Cralor` | yes that makes perfect sense |
| 03:18.10 | alestane | Also, aren't you supposed to say which point you're anchoring off of? i.e. RuneButtonIndividual2:SetPoint("BOTTOM", RuneButtonIndividual1, "BOTTOM", 25, 0) ? |
| 03:18.19 | Cralor` | i was so busy trying to find the wrong stuff, i forgot to even make it do "vertical" stuff! |
| 03:18.36 | alestane | !api SetPoint |
| 03:18.37 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'SetPoint'. |
| 03:18.47 | Cralor` | alestane: i have that |
| 03:18.47 | Iriel | !api Region:SetPoint |
| 03:18.47 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'Region:SetPoint'. |
| 03:18.50 | Iriel | hm.. odd. |
| 03:19.00 | Iriel | I guess I dont know the syntax |
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| 03:19.29 | End | !api LayoutRegion:SetPoint |
| 03:19.30 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'LayoutRegion:SetPoint'. |
| 03:19.32 | Cralor` | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/93483 |
| 03:19.35 | End | rabble rabble! |
| 03:19.36 | Cralor` | i have that |
| 03:20.29 | alestane | Apparently you can leave out the reference point in which case it's assumed to be the same as the point being anchored. |
| 03:20.53 | alestane | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Region/SetPoint |
| 03:21.04 | alestane | So the pastey'd code is right in that regard. |
| 03:21.38 | Cralor` | u mean relative point? |
| 03:22.32 | Kirov | Cralor` - http://wowuidev.pastey.net/93485 try that |
| 03:22.36 | Cralor` | anyway, i got it to work. thanks for all the help!! |
| 03:23.42 | Cralor` | Kirov: you think i should change it to that? |
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| 03:24.13 | Kirov | Easier to modify |
| 03:25.00 | Cralor` | looks it. thanks a lot |
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| 03:42.20 | Kaso | i hate that that Transmission can stop gnome going into hibernate if it has activity (which is ALL THE FREKING TIME) |
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| 03:50.20 | kd3 | yay, eranikus soloed. achievement ready for when I next copy my main |
| 03:51.01 | Sixen | kik |
| 03:51.03 | Sixen | lol* |
| 03:51.29 | kd3 | now I just need to finnagle a few people into running uld and mara with me |
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| 04:09.01 | MusicMan | back |
| 04:10.37 | Cairenn | front |
| 04:10.45 | |pez| | side! |
| 04:14.05 | MusicMan | that's from stranger in a strange land |
| 04:14.20 | MusicMan | jubal had 3 assistants, and he'd yell front and one of them would come to him and ask what he needed |
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| 04:35.58 | Cairenn | AddOns gone Crazy winners have been posted on the front page (community tab) of WoWI |
| 04:36.34 | Sargeras | le rawr |
| 04:36.50 | Cairenn | give yourself a big hug from me this weekend while you're at FanFaire |
| 04:36.51 | Sargeras | tickets go on sale tomorrow! |
| 04:36.56 | Cairenn | yes, yes they do! |
| 04:37.04 | Sargeras | hug myself? |
| 04:37.10 | Sargeras | can I hug dolby too? |
| 04:37.16 | Cairenn | sure, if he'll let you |
| 04:37.18 | Tekkub | anyone got a good addon that tweaks the default SCT? I don't really pay enough attention to the info to make MSBT worth it I think |
| 04:37.28 | Tekkub | but I'd like better layout |
| 04:44.30 | NightHawkTheSane | to be honest, y ou might just try msbt, the default config is fairly nice, and if you just want to tweak things like font/size/position, its not terribly difficult |
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| 04:50.21 | Thunder_Child | i think i used parrot before i stoped playing |
| 04:50.25 | Shirik|Ecole | Anyone here know matrix algebra? |
| 04:50.46 | Thunder_Child | give me a few years and i will |
| 04:50.52 | Thunder_Child | though you might want to try #math |
| 04:51.30 | Shirik|Ecole | probably going to |
| 04:51.42 | batrick | Shirik|Ecole: what do you need? |
| 04:53.09 | Shirik|Ecole | uh |
| 04:54.03 | Shirik|Ecole | I have the matrix [[2,2,3][0,2,0][2,1,3]] which has a determinant of zero. It should, because I know for a fact these equations should be linearly dependent. However I can't for the life of me figure out why they're dependent -- example: Row 1 - Row 3 is not Row 2 |
| 04:54.22 | Shirik|Ecole | nm I figured it out |
| 04:54.37 | Thunder_Child | wow batrick, you're awesome |
| 04:54.45 | batrick | ? |
| 04:54.50 | Thunder_Child | you figured it out with some mental mumbo jumbo stuff |
| 04:54.53 | Shirik|Ecole | Row 1 - Row 3 is 2xRow 2 >.> |
| 04:54.55 | Diao | lol |
| 04:55.00 | Diao | linear algebra? |
| 04:55.00 | Thunder_Child | beamed it directly into Shirik's brain |
| 04:55.15 | Shirik|Ecole | well, this is linear algebra yes; but it's for differential equations >.> |
| 04:55.18 | Diao | ah |
| 04:55.25 | Diao | i haven't done that in like 3 years D: |
| 04:55.32 | Diao | but i still remember it kind of, if you need help :p |
| 04:55.36 | Shirik|Ecole | turn a differential equation into matrix algebra to supposedly make it easy |
| 04:55.39 | Shirik|Ecole | no I got it now :) |
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| 04:56.12 | batrick | if you learn diff eq along with matrix algebra it becomes a lot easier |
| 04:56.29 | batrick | they are heavily related |
| 04:57.17 | Shirik|Ecole | I took matrix algebra like 3 years ago >< Just I think it's too late for this |
| 04:57.24 | batrick | I don't remember the rules for independence very well, but I think if the determinant is non-zero then they are dependent |
| 04:57.25 | Shirik|Ecole | I should probably go to sleep |
| 04:57.28 | batrick | you'll want to check that of course |
| 04:57.31 | Shirik|Ecole | backwards :) |
| 04:57.37 | Shirik|Ecole | They are linearly dependent if the determinant is zero |
| 04:57.42 | batrick | ah ok |
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| 05:00.25 | Xuerian | Does anyone ever get the feeling with their mods.. the urge... to just reach in and tear out every bit of unnecessary code, every option you don't use, every pointless pandering feature for people you don't know? |
| 05:00.56 | batrick | no |
| 05:00.59 | Iriel | I try not to include them to begin with 8-) |
| 05:01.03 | End | no, but I ...yeah |
| 05:01.06 | End | what Iriel said |
| 05:01.12 | Iriel | only accept a feature you're willing to stand behind |
| 05:01.21 | Diao | feature creep |
| 05:01.23 | Diao | is fail :( |
| 05:01.36 | Xuerian | Hm.. now I feel alone. >.> |
| 05:01.57 | End | You are alone. |
| 05:02.00 | |Jelly| | Just stop uploading your addons if you don't wanna support them for the masses imo. |
| 05:02.00 | End | You are also cold. |
| 05:02.02 | End | So very cold. |
| 05:02.12 | Diao | The End is near? |
| 05:02.18 | Diao | >.> |
| 05:02.23 | End | Depends on where here is. |
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| 05:02.45 | Xuerian | |Jelly|: But see, there's the problem. Hubris is fighting with minimalism and lazy. :P |
| 05:03.50 | Xuerian | Of course, I seem to be following the trajectory of quite a few authors once happily entrenched in Ace*.. |
| 05:04.15 | Shirik|Ecole | ~wiki stinky tofu |
| 05:04.22 | Shirik|Ecole | wtf it really exists |
| 05:04.41 | Shirik|Ecole | why would you name something like that |
| 05:04.50 | Xuerian | Shirik: That's like that rotted soybean dish thing |
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| 05:06.12 | Diao | because it's delicious :( |
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| 05:06.52 | Diao | talking about nattou i presume |
| 05:07.45 | Shirik|Ecole | I have determined eigenvectors suck |
| 05:07.55 | Shirik|Ecole | Mr. Eigen needs to die |
| 05:09.32 | End | uh |
| 05:09.33 | End | yeah |
| 05:09.34 | End | duh |
| 05:09.36 | End | :P |
| 05:10.28 | Iriel | heresy! Eigenvectors are cool! |
| 05:10.44 | End | They're useful. But I hate them. |
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| 05:13.00 | Kudane | evening everyone |
| 05:13.11 | Kudane | Ok, quick question, as I have never seen this before... :) |
| 05:13.19 | Ackis | I was taking set theory and I had a dream that p's and q's were attacking me |
| 05:13.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Ackis: o_0 |
| 05:13.41 | Cairenn | (on WotLK Beta, since he'll forget to mention it) |
| 05:13.55 | Ackis | Cairenn: Is there a pool on beta? |
| 05:14.02 | Kudane | anyone know why an addon would work fine, and then 2 hours later give "load on demand error"? |
| 05:14.03 | Cairenn | Ackis: no |
| 05:14.03 | End | is it a pool of water? |
| 05:14.07 | Thunder_Child | yes, olympic sized |
| 05:14.14 | Xuerian | Kudane: WotLK or not? |
| 05:14.22 | Cairenn | Xuerian: (on WotLK Beta, since he'll forget to mention it) |
| 05:14.28 | Kudane | sorry, LK |
| 05:14.40 | Thunder_Child | cuse LoD seems to have issues in beta...or so i have read |
| 05:14.43 | Cairenn | do I know him, or do I know him? ;) |
| 05:14.43 | End | Is it an OptDep? |
| 05:14.51 | Kudane | I copied fubar over, and some of the plugins... all worked fine, but now 75% are giving load on demand errors |
| 05:14.53 | Iriel | Yes, there's a bug of sorts |
| 05:14.57 | Thunder_Child | no Cairenn, you dont know him |
| 05:14.59 | Xuerian | Kudane: LoadAddOn can load addons that are trying to load currently... |
| 05:15.08 | Xuerian | mirrormirrormirrormirrormirrormirrormirroronthewall :) |
| 05:15.12 | Iriel | It's been reported to the folks in blue |
| 05:15.15 | Kudane | AHH |
| 05:15.15 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Xuerian |
| 05:15.15 | purl | hereby declares Xuerian a troll |
| 05:15.41 | Kudane | sooo, how hard is it to change from LOD to just "load" |
| 05:15.55 | End | call LoadAddOn() |
| 05:15.58 | Iriel | Generally not hard at all, just take out the load on demand from the header 8-) |
| 05:15.59 | Xuerian | Like the almighty Iriel says though, bug, already reported. For the time being, if you're using any Ace2/3 addons, make sure to use the WotLK branches of both Ace2 and Ace3 from the wowace svn |
| 05:15.59 | Thunder_Child | easy if you have someone do it for you |
| 05:18.08 | Kudane | Xuerian, thanks... is there a central link for the SVN for the Ace 2/3 addons? |
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| 05:18.12 | Kudane | for the LK |
| 05:18.35 | Xuerian | Ask in #wowace |
| 05:18.43 | Kudane | hehehe |
| 05:18.46 | Cairenn | don't believe so |
| 05:18.52 | Kudane | i am channel hopping like a cricket |
| 05:19.08 | Xuerian | But I don't think there is a direct download link |
| 05:19.48 | Kudane | Ok, soo color me noob, what does the load on demand in the header look like? |
| 05:20.04 | Iriel | LoadOnDemand: 1 |
| 05:20.05 | Iriel | IIRC |
| 05:20.36 | Iriel | In the .toc file |
| 05:21.08 | Kudane | so if not there... add it with "1" |
| 05:21.17 | Kudane | or 0 |
| 05:21.21 | End | if it's not there, then its not load on demand |
| 05:21.42 | Kudane | ok, i am looking at toc file of Fubar_Experiencefu, that JUST gave me "load on demand error" |
| 05:21.52 | End | try looking at its dependencies |
| 05:21.55 | Kudane | and it has no "loadondemand" |
| 05:22.04 | Kudane | oh, ok.. |
| 05:23.05 | Kudane | there it is |
| 05:24.20 | Kudane | just testing one file, i am guessing they will fix the LOD server side |
| 05:24.58 | Kudane | thanks Iriel for the info |
| 05:24.59 | Iriel | It'll be a client patch, but i would hope they fix it next patch |
| 05:25.01 | End | er, huh, GetActionInfo() does weird stuff on mini pets I think |
| 05:25.09 | Sargeras | hey I know you |
| 05:25.39 | Kudane | ok, sooo i removed the loadondemand, now no error.. but also no load |
| 05:25.52 | Kudane | i am guessing i missed something |
| 05:26.57 | End | could be |
| 05:27.02 | Iriel | Is ace trying to do something clever? or does the addon not exist in a self-contained way? |
| 05:27.12 | Iriel | i.e. is it deployed such that it **MUST** be loaded by something else |
| 05:27.56 | Shirik|Ecole | Is this on beta? |
| 05:28.06 | End | yeah |
| 05:28.07 | Shirik|Ecole | I remember someone commented earlie.... nm Iriel already mentioned this >.> |
| 05:30.47 | Xuerian | Iriel: I believe the issue was that Ace2 was checking if Dewdrop was loaded, which was loading dewdrop, which was loading ace2... |
| 05:31.00 | Xuerian | Iriel: Arrowmaster worked around this after figuring it out, iirc |
| 05:31.19 | Arrowmaster | it was a hack though |
| 05:31.47 | Arrowmaster | i just added an extra AceLibrary("Dewdrop-2.0") call above the AceDB-2.0 code |
| 05:31.58 | End | weird |
| 05:32.03 | Arrowmaster | so that it was loaded before the check that was failing instead of during |
| 05:32.52 | Iriel | Oh, I was thinking of a cuter hack like replacing LoadAddOn and IsAddOnLoaded in the Ace namespace |
| 05:33.07 | Sargeras | =D |
| 05:33.38 | Arrowmaster | Kudane: how do you know the error was from experiencefu? do you have a copy of the error? |
| 05:33.56 | Arrowmaster | Iriel: i wasnt about to do something complex just for a bug that will be fixed soon enough |
| 05:35.47 | Kudane | it was displayed in my chat window |
| 05:36.00 | Kudane | along with Bagfu, Durabiityfu, and a couple of others |
| 05:36.40 | Kudane | i can take a screenshot if it helps |
| 05:37.09 | Arrowmaster | that would help |
| 05:37.27 | Kudane | ok, where you want me to email |
| 05:38.22 | Arrowmaster | just imageshack it |
| 05:38.29 | Kudane | OMG |
| 05:38.38 | Kudane | i logged in to take pic, and all addons loaded this time. |
| 05:38.43 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 05:38.51 | Cairenn | you just suck Kudz :p |
| 05:38.56 | Kudane | trying different toon |
| 05:41.31 | Kudane | ok, now its fine... |
| 05:41.34 | Kudane | <sigh> |
| 05:43.24 | Kudane | well, thank you all for the help... |
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| 05:51.31 | Mery | Now that's a nice birthday present! |
| 05:51.54 | Mery | staff* |
| 05:54.10 | Cairenn | happy birthday Mery! |
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| 05:56.53 | Mery | thanks Cairenn and |
| 05:56.59 | Mery | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 05:56.59 | purl | acting on orders from an unspecified client drags Thunder_Child into court suing for $200 million |
| 05:57.42 | Cairenn | Mery: pm me back :p |
| 05:59.56 | Thunder_Child | ~dodge Mery |
| 05:59.57 | purl | at the last second thunder_child dodges out of the way of Mery's malicious and unprovoked attack. |
| 06:00.17 | Garoun|Loupana | we verified, if you raise and enemy via Raise Dead they do nto get to keep control :) |
| 06:01.14 | Thunder_Child | i thought t's if you raise an ally they get to controll it |
| 06:01.49 | Garoun|Loupana | yeah, allys do get to keep control |
| 06:01.53 | Garoun|Loupana | it prompts them before accepting |
| 06:02.17 | NightHawkTheSane | "if you raise an enemy |
| 06:02.18 | NightHawkTheSane | " |
| 06:02.20 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 06:02.22 | Garoun|Loupana | poor End, I let him kill my tauren DK to see how raise works on opponents :) |
| 06:02.37 | Garoun|Loupana | He got too close to the flight master in lights hope and got reamed by the guards :P |
| 06:02.38 | Thrae | Mmmmm, I need some WoTLK Lua beta fun. I need to see if I can report my computer specs to Blizzard... |
| 06:02.46 | Garoun|Loupana | since the ghouls are set to attack neutral and lower |
| 06:03.50 | End | it wasn't me |
| 06:03.52 | End | it was Duman |
| 06:03.58 | End | oh |
| 06:04.05 | End | you're talking -about- Duman to me? |
| 06:04.26 | Garoun|Loupana | yeah, Duman, it's late :P |
| 06:04.35 | Garoun|Loupana | I meant 'poor Duman' |
| 06:04.43 | End | ah, ok :P |
| 06:04.46 | Garoun|Loupana | brain not working at all lol |
| 06:04.55 | Garoun|Loupana | which is why I just said.. 2am must sleep for work |
| 06:04.57 | End | I'm trying to figure out why I can summon ghouls with no corpse and no corpse dust |
| 06:05.04 | Garoun|Loupana | it's a bug |
| 06:05.14 | Garoun|Loupana | wait until you summon 15 at once like I did last night |
| 06:05.25 | End | yes, well I think it only checks for dust if there is specifically a non-humanoid corpse around |
| 06:06.23 | Garoun|Loupana | I had it blow through an entire stack of dust on one of my summons |
| 06:06.40 | Garoun|Loupana | even with humanoid corpses around |
| 06:06.43 | End | weird |
| 06:06.57 | End | I'm still reporting what I've figured out though |
| 06:07.00 | End | :P |
| 06:09.38 | Duman | yeah taht was me |
| 06:09.44 | Duman | stupid ghoul |
| 06:09.48 | Duman | it's mad, I tell you! |
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| 06:28.30 | Aiiane | god... bloodworms is so broken |
| 06:34.54 | |Jelly| | eh? |
| 06:36.21 | Aiiane | the DK blood talent |
| 06:36.38 | Diao | Broken in a good way, right? |
| 06:36.57 | Aiiane | broken in a "I haven't seen myself below 95% health for the last 3 hours" way. |
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| 06:37.08 | Diao | Yep, thought so :p |
| 06:37.36 | Kalroth | Man, no listbox >< Time to hack then |
| 06:37.41 | Aiiane | broken in a "my bloodworms are doing over 200 dps on their own" way. |
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| 06:47.25 | Dashkal | Broken as in you can take on world five man boss types :p |
| 06:53.02 | Thunder_Child | still not as broken as a pally, since i know a pally that solo'd a fel reaver @ 69 or so |
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| 07:01.03 | Aiiane | http://aiiane.net/images/bloodworms1.jpg |
| 07:01.07 | Aiiane | also 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 |
| 07:02.37 | Thunder_Child | "00:00.00 Day changed to Monday, August 11th 2008." does that mean the tickets are on sale? |
| 07:05.26 | Thunder_Child | <whine>caiiiiiiiiiiiiiiirenn, make the tickets go on sale </whine> |
| 07:05.55 | Diao | i thought it was at 8am |
| 07:05.56 | Diao | or something |
| 07:06.25 | Thunder_Child | i dunno, i was just whining for fun |
| 07:07.29 | Ackis | 8am PDT |
| 07:07.37 | Diao | yeah, i'm pacific :p |
| 07:08.24 | Thunder_Child | last time was 1/2 in the first 24 hoursand all in 72 |
| 07:08.42 | Thunder_Child | though i will be sleeping @ 8 |
| 07:08.49 | Aiiane | Diao: http://aiiane.net/images/bloodworms3.jpg is a fairly good indication of how its broken :P |
| 07:09.02 | Aiiane | considering you can keep that going indefinitely :P |
| 07:09.04 | Ackis | you should all post your support of this idea: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8765609499&sid=2000 |
| 07:09.05 | Diao | lol |
| 07:09.17 | Diao | yeah I've been hearing lots of reports of how OP death knights are now |
| 07:10.45 | Ackis | what's the site to buy the tickets? |
| 07:11.37 | Thunder_Child | http://www.blizzard.com/blizzcon/index.xml |
| 07:11.48 | Ackis | key logger |
| 07:11.49 | Thunder_Child | the link will be there to get them |
| 07:12.02 | Thunder_Child | damn, Ackis found me out |
| 07:12.24 | Ackis | want to sent it to myself at work for tomorrow |
| 07:12.47 | Thunder_Child | i dunno if i want the "16" inflatable divine shield ball" |
| 07:12.57 | Thunder_Child | or the "48 inflatable Frostmourne" |
| 07:13.09 | Diao | there's a divine shield ball? o_O |
| 07:13.22 | Thunder_Child | "complete with a paladin inside in the midst of hearthing away. Half of the goody bags handed out will contain the bubble-hearth ball" |
| 07:13.29 | Diao | lol |
| 07:13.36 | Diao | im' gonna guess |
| 07:13.41 | Diao | most people are going to want the frostmourne |
| 07:14.30 | Thunder_Child | i really dont think they should hand out inflatable weapons to whats prolly a bunch of larpers |
| 07:15.33 | Thunder_Child | hopefully i can make it to the "World of Warcraft UI and Mods" this time |
| 07:16.00 | Thunder_Child | panel* |
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| 07:43.46 | |Jelly| | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99dpUrcg-V0 <-- Bloodworms are broken in a very good way imo. :P |
| 07:45.48 | Corrodias | so... it has been a while since i payed attention to WoW: bloodworms is what? |
| 07:46.19 | |Jelly| | Death Knight talent that spawns worms that heal you for 100% of the damage they deal. |
| 07:46.34 | |Jelly| | At 59, I spawn 5 worms generally and they all do >100 damage a pop. |
| 07:47.57 | Arrowmaster | actually they do more like 40 damage |
| 07:48.01 | Arrowmaster | but heal for 100 |
| 07:48.43 | |Jelly| | either way |
| 07:48.59 | |Jelly| | I went from 144hp to ... full in a matter of a few combat rounds. |
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| 07:52.04 | Corrodias | that is a bit much, yes |
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| 07:52.48 | Arrowmaster | a 69 soloed durn with bloodworms |
| 07:53.44 | |Jelly| | lulz |
| 07:54.03 | Aiiane | yeah, like I said |
| 07:54.14 | Aiiane | if I keep bloodworms spawned, I basically never go below 95% hp |
| 07:54.31 | Aiiane | and with enough worms up they actually do a fair amount of dps o_o |
| 07:54.35 | |Jelly| | So I'm still mounted inside Ramps. lol |
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| 07:56.05 | zenzio | I hate the name "deathknight", I can't picture a non-mounted knight |
| 07:56.36 | Aiiane | ...why not? o_o |
| 07:56.39 | zenzio | can imagine the new raids, deathknights charging first at a boss, mounted... Rivendare/Four Horsemen style |
| 07:56.51 | Corrodias | just think Elton John |
| 07:56.55 | Corrodias | with a sword |
| 08:01.46 | Kirov | That is a mental image that is going to haunt me. |
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| 08:25.45 | KarlKFI | Testing |
| 08:26.17 | Cairenn | fail |
| 08:26.55 | KarlKFI | Hmm I don't see anything |
| 08:27.36 | AnduinLothar | sad |
| 08:27.48 | AnduinLothar | found a beta iphone client |
| 08:27.58 | AnduinLothar | but it's very beta |
| 08:28.13 | AnduinLothar | meanign i can't read any msgs except my own >.< |
| 08:28.20 | KarlKFI | Boo |
| 08:35.22 | leethal | will there be moar Adddons Gone Crazy rounds? =) |
| 08:37.48 | Cairenn | not right now, but perhaps in the future ;) |
| 08:38.46 | zenzio | addons go crazy every major patch lulz |
| 08:39.46 | Thunder_Child | so do people |
| 08:40.30 | Cairenn | heheheh |
| 08:47.54 | Kirov | AnduinLothar - can't you use a web client, or does the iPhone not support java apps |
| 08:56.13 | batrick | I think, a contest where you make a _new_ addon that gets the most downloads in a week would be cool |
| 08:56.32 | Xinhuan | sounds dodgy |
| 08:56.42 | batrick | how so? |
| 08:56.43 | Kirov | batrick - BigBoobJiggle |
| 08:56.49 | Kirov | win! |
| 08:56.50 | Cairenn | batrick: only problem with that is then someone would just spam download |
| 08:57.03 | batrick | ah, well i dunno how you guys log downloads |
| 08:57.05 | Cairenn | we've had people bot download before |
| 08:57.10 | batrick | but ya i guess that's open to be exploited |
| 08:57.13 | Mery | you'd need to resitric it to unique download by previously created accounts |
| 08:57.28 | Mery | but even then it's a competition "who spams the forums more" |
| 08:57.36 | batrick | so? :) |
| 08:57.37 | Cairenn | where a mod goes from 0 to 200k downloads (or more) in like an hour |
| 08:57.57 | Kirov | You don't need an account to download. |
| 08:58.02 | Cairenn | precisely |
| 08:58.09 | Kirov | And it's easy to fake ips |
| 08:58.13 | Xinhuan | code obfuscation contest! |
| 08:58.22 | Kirov | Xinhuan - thot already won that one |
| 08:58.26 | Kirov | 3 years ago |
| 08:58.28 | Corrodias | isn't that a little... incredibly sad that they'd try to make their bad addon look popular? |
| 08:58.47 | Corrodias | it can't even gain them money |
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| 08:59.17 | Cairenn | Corrodias: it isn't even always the author that does it |
| 08:59.49 | Cairenn | which is really bizarre |
| 08:59.54 | Corrodias | but... who else? >_> |
| 09:00.07 | Kirov | that is odd |
| 09:00.11 | Cairenn | you can almost understand an author doing it, but why some random stranger will suddenly spam download is beyond me |
| 09:00.33 | Cairenn | other than wanting to send our costs skyrocketing |
| 09:01.35 | Corrodias | hm. i suppose that could be it. |
| 09:02.01 | Cairenn | &/or trying to DDoS us via it |
| 09:02.37 | Cairenn | and that one we know they've tried to do before, because it isn't even just one mod that's getting hit but a whole bunch of them |
| 09:04.49 | leethal | DDoS is lamer than ganking |
| 09:04.59 | leethal | takes real sites down, and requires no skills |
| 09:05.27 | Cairenn | yup, sucks |
| 09:05.54 | batrick | wut r u talkin about bein a script kiddie is hard work |
| 09:06.01 | Cairenn | heh |
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| 09:13.41 | Adys | Anyone on the wlk beta who could tell me why GetSpellLink(46917) returns nil ? |
| 09:13.53 | Adys | GetSpellInfo(46917) returns values fine |
| 09:14.18 | Cairenn | 'cause it's in ma belly? |
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| 09:15.28 | Adys | aw cair |
| 09:15.35 | Cairenn | not helpful? |
| 09:16.15 | Adys | no :( |
| 09:16.20 | Cairenn | sowwy |
| 09:17.18 | Kirov | I'm guessing that's a WotLK spell? |
| 09:18.17 | Adys | yes |
| 09:18.30 | Adys | Titan's Grip |
| 09:34.34 | Cairenn | "Why would you be willing to jump out of a perfectly good airplane?" "This is the airforce, there are no perfectly good airplanes" |
| 09:34.38 | Fisker- | http://i34.tinypic.com/2cmp0sk.jpg <-lolwhiners |
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| 09:45.56 | batrick | !ping |
| 09:45.56 | batbot | batrick: pong! |
| 09:49.10 | lua_bot | !ping |
| 09:49.10 | batbot | lua_bot: pong! |
| 09:49.11 | lua_bot | batbot: luabot:1: '=' expected near '!' |
| 09:49.13 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 09:49.44 | Cairenn | lol |
| 09:49.56 | Cairenn | geeks |
| 09:50.00 | jnwhiteh | so the new freenode is confusing me |
| 09:50.01 | Cairenn | gotta luv 'em |
| 09:50.03 | jnwhiteh | i'm not registered (I think) |
| 09:50.09 | jnwhiteh | or at least this nick isn't registered |
| 09:50.14 | jnwhiteh | so says nickserv |
| 09:50.21 | jnwhiteh | but i'm opped and i can send/receive messages |
| 09:50.22 | Kirov | yet you're an op |
| 09:50.25 | jnwhiteh | I NO |
| 09:50.37 | Kirov | actually, I was curious why you're using that nick |
| 09:50.46 | jnwhiteh | cause i'm at the office, all official and stuff |
| 09:50.50 | nevcairiel | (11:50:30) raw 320: jnwhiteh is signed on as account cladhaire |
| 09:50.51 | jnwhiteh | i've considered changing my nicks |
| 09:50.54 | jnwhiteh | just for consistency |
| 09:50.55 | nevcairiel | so dunno |
| 09:51.01 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: I know, but that's new since they changed the server |
| 09:51.25 | nevcairiel | apparently they have nick and account now :) |
| 09:52.12 | jnwhiteh | I have too many nicks registered alraedy |
| 09:53.59 | jnwhiteh | interesting |
| 09:58.18 | Stanzilla | http://blog.freenode.net/?p=81 < :) |
| 10:00.41 | Corrodias | well, that's cute |
| 10:01.34 | jnwhiteh | So basically we have accounts now, which we can change |
| 10:01.37 | jnwhiteh | and you can register nicks to them |
| 10:01.42 | jnwhiteh | and i can choose any nick i want and stay registered |
| 10:01.48 | poopface | zomg still opped. |
| 10:01.56 | poopface | but if i logout |
| 10:02.07 | poopface | i... stay.. opped. |
| 10:02.08 | poopface | lol |
| 10:02.28 | jnwhiteh | weird. |
| 10:02.29 | Corrodias | of course |
| 10:02.39 | Corrodias | your status in a channel is not related to your login status |
| 10:02.57 | jnwhiteh | it used to be |
| 10:02.59 | Corrodias | when you join, chanserv may automatically set your mode depending on whether you're idenfitied |
| 10:03.10 | Corrodias | but i've never heard of a network that changes it while you're already in |
| 10:03.14 | jnwhiteh | and chanserv would remove your ops if you stopped having that status, was my understanding |
| 10:03.18 | jnwhiteh | at least you can set it that way |
| 10:03.23 | jnwhiteh | its "new" that's all I'm saying :P |
| 10:03.33 | jnwhiteh | even if its expected behavior, the whole system is new for freenode |
| 10:03.34 | Corrodias | hmm.. well, i admit that i am not fully versed on freenode's specific features |
| 10:04.18 | Adys | So |
| 10:04.26 | Adys | when a NPC "becomes" another |
| 10:04.33 | Adys | the guid doesnt get updated :( |
| 10:04.35 | Cairenn | if I've identified, it doesn't matter what I change my nick to (as long as it doesn't belong to someone else), chanserv recognizes me |
| 10:04.40 | jnwhiteh | hrm, apparently +e gives me a ban exemption on this channel |
| 10:04.46 | *** join/#wowuidev Slakah (n=Slakah@5acd430b.bb.sky.com) |
| 10:04.48 | jnwhiteh | Cairenn: it did not used to be that way |
| 10:04.54 | jnwhiteh | Cairenn: that's specifically my point |
| 10:04.55 | Cairenn | always has been for me |
| 10:05.12 | jnwhiteh | *shrug* |
| 10:05.59 | Cairenn | then again, all of my nicks that I change to are linked, so probably not a good example ;) |
| 10:06.55 | jnwhiteh | Cairenn: then you cheat |
| 10:07.01 | jnwhiteh | of course when you change to a linked nick it carries you |
| 10:07.02 | Cairenn | well, yeah |
| 10:07.13 | Cairenn | you hadn't figured that out yet? *grin* |
| 10:07.14 | jnwhiteh | if you changed to a non-linked one.. you'd fall out and not be able to PM anymore |
| 10:07.14 | Corrodias | i'll link YOUR nick, if you know what i mean |
| 10:07.23 | jnwhiteh | but that's no longer teh case |
| 10:07.45 | unregisterednick | and now I can still communicate with lua_bot and anyone else via PMs |
| 10:07.52 | unregisterednick | it _NEVER_ used to do this |
| 10:08.03 | unregisterednick | but now in order to break out, you'd need to /msg nickserv loguot |
| 10:08.06 | unregisterednick | logout even |
| 10:08.18 | randomothername | did you see the PM I just sent you? |
| 10:08.30 | jnwhiteh | yep |
| 10:09.02 | jnwhiteh | at least I better understand it now |
| 10:09.17 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 10:09.39 | foomonkey | actually wow. |
| 10:09.45 | foomonkey | they removed that restriction entirely it seems |
| 10:10.03 | foomonkey | I can still converse via PMs even when I'm not logged in |
| 10:10.21 | Stanzilla | which is good.. |
| 10:10.28 | jnwhiteh | yes, but "different" |
| 10:10.30 | jnwhiteh | and potentially bad for spam |
| 10:10.32 | Corrodias | change is bad |
| 10:10.40 | Corrodias | it threatens my status quo |
| 10:10.56 | jnwhiteh | considering before they had to register, and now registration requires email confirmation (i think?) |
| 10:11.13 | jnwhiteh | either way i've removed my linked nicks, except for clad, jnwhiteh and cladhaire |
| 10:11.20 | jnwhiteh | so.. should I change my author name? |
| 10:11.33 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 10:11.36 | jnwhiteh | Cladhaire is cool and all, but no one knows how to say it, or what it means |
| 10:11.45 | Corrodias | actually, nickserv says i have no email on file |
| 10:11.48 | jnwhiteh | and I'm known everywhere else on the net as jnwhiteh |
| 10:11.54 | jnwhiteh | Corrodias: aye, we were grandfathered in |
| 10:11.55 | Corrodias | so apparently i was not required to supply one |
| 10:12.04 | jnwhiteh | dunno how a new registration works since they updated the servers |
| 10:12.10 | Corrodias | ah |
| 10:12.17 | Corrodias | Grandpa Freenode |
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| 10:12.42 | jnwhiteh | Cairenn: you'd object to me changing my name? |
| 10:12.49 | Cairenn | no |
| 10:12.52 | jnwhiteh | Also, it means "Rogue".. and I don't play my rogue anymore |
| 10:12.55 | jnwhiteh | about to cancel that account actually =( |
| 10:12.59 | Cairenn | completely up to you, obviously |
| 10:13.12 | Cairenn | just you're known in *this* community as Clad |
| 10:13.16 | jnwhiteh | aye |
| 10:13.25 | Cairenn | but people will get over it quick enough |
| 10:13.35 | Corrodias | i'll cry myself to sleep, don't you worry |
| 10:13.43 | jnwhiteh | I just cringe when I have to say "Clad-hair", since that's not how its pronounced so it sounds like a bastardization but no one would know what it means otherwise :P |
| 10:14.23 | Cairenn | well, for one thing, the "h" is silent :p |
| 10:14.37 | Corrodias | i'm not sure how you expect "jnwhiteh" to be better >_> |
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| 10:14.49 | Corrodias | jenwhitey? jay-en-whitta? |
| 10:15.04 | Cairenn | "Jim" |
| 10:15.25 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 10:15.31 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 10:15.42 | jnwhiteh | Corrodias: i'm known everywhere as jnwhiteh, have been since .. forever |
| 10:16.42 | jnwhiteh | wow |
| 10:16.48 | Corrodias | which prompts the question, why did you use a different name for addon development? |
| 10:16.50 | jnwhiteh | the first four pages on google are all me, so yeah :P |
| 10:16.59 | jnwhiteh | Corrodias: because it was the name of my wow character |
| 10:17.03 | Corrodias | i'm just curious; i certainly don't mind the name change |
| 10:17.08 | jnwhiteh | I didn't _plan_ to become an addon author |
| 10:17.09 | Corrodias | not that i could stop you |
| 10:17.31 | Corrodias | or COULD I |
| 10:17.38 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 10:19.25 | Cairenn | if you do want to, let me know, I'll fix everything up on WoWI |
| 10:19.35 | Corrodias | i am intimidated by my own power. i had better not try. |
| 10:21.54 | nevcairiel | that would be funny, if all addon authors suddenly start abandoning their nicks and use abrevations of their real name, man what a confusion! |
| 10:22.00 | jnwhiteh | "Ceithearnach coille" is going to be my new name |
| 10:22.42 | jnwhiteh | to be fair, "Cladhaire" is better than "Boss" was.. so I completely understand why ckknight changed :P |
| 10:22.54 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 10:22.56 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 10:23.00 | jnwhiteh | HAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 10:23.03 | jnwhiteh | umm |
| 10:23.05 | Corrodias | what language is all this coming out of, again? welsh? gaelic? |
| 10:23.09 | jnwhiteh | Corrodias: irish |
| 10:23.11 | sioraiocht | wow Cairenn, you have a nice ass |
| 10:23.18 | Cairenn | sioraiocht: ..... |
| 10:23.30 | Corrodias | did ckknight pick a different name? or is ck the new one? |
| 10:23.37 | sioraiocht | his original was "Boss" |
| 10:23.37 | Cairenn | ckk is the new one |
| 10:23.43 | jnwhiteh | it was "BossPanel" |
| 10:23.48 | sioraiocht | oh, sorry |
| 10:23.51 | sioraiocht | my mistake |
| 10:23.51 | Corrodias | amusement |
| 10:23.52 | sioraiocht | heh |
| 10:23.55 | Cairenn | which annoyed the ever living fuck out of some people |
| 10:24.09 | jnwhiteh | wow |
| 10:24.15 | Cairenn | so he switched to his real name & initials |
| 10:24.18 | jnwhiteh | i think i dyed my hair before blizzcon 07 |
| 10:24.33 | Corrodias | i can imagine it would be confusing when talking about addons, but hardly enough to be significantly annoying |
| 10:24.35 | jnwhiteh | cause this doesn't look normal, lol |
| 10:24.44 | sioraiocht | you did |
| 10:24.47 | Corrodias | although aren't window objects in wow called frames? |
| 10:25.00 | Corrodias | so... never mind |
| 10:25.05 | Cairenn | why do I think I'm confused now? |
| 10:25.14 | Cairenn | oh yeah, because I am |
| 10:25.15 | Cairenn | right |
| 10:25.16 | Corrodias | how could that name annoy anyone? |
| 10:25.22 | Cairenn | "Boss" |
| 10:25.32 | nevcairiel | thats not even a name |
| 10:25.34 | Corrodias | (i was thinking "boss frame" and how that could get confusing if you're talking about addons for bosses) |
| 10:25.36 | Cairenn | it's arrogant |
| 10:25.58 | sioraiocht | Cairenn: of course it is, but I think that was the POINT |
| 10:25.59 | sioraiocht | =p |
| 10:26.00 | jnwhiteh | it wasn't meant to be |
| 10:26.03 | jnwhiteh | I don't think, honestly |
| 10:26.08 | sioraiocht | oh, that's no fun |
| 10:26.09 | Cairenn | oh, neither do I |
| 10:26.23 | sioraiocht | if you're going to have a redic name like that you should OWN it |
| 10:26.30 | Cairenn | just saying that that was how a lot of people were taking it, and (I think) why he changed to his real name |
| 10:26.34 | Corrodias | arrogant? i suppose that depends on the context; i'd disagree here |
| 10:27.53 | jnwhiteh | if you want a good time, read through the fubar 3.0 comments on wowi |
| 10:28.03 | jnwhiteh | some good bits in there |
| 10:28.07 | jnwhiteh | HOLY SHIT |
| 10:28.09 | jnwhiteh | wowkon.com banned me. |
| 10:28.19 | Corrodias | i'm not familiar with that domain |
| 10:28.27 | jnwhiteh | its one of about a thousand that are ripping off addons |
| 10:29.01 | jnwhiteh | Now Im' going to have to take legal action |
| 10:29.03 | nevcairiel | i usually dont visit pages that already claim "Your #1 Source" in the header |
| 10:29.26 | Cairenn | jnwhiteh: they banned all of us |
| 10:29.36 | jnwhiteh | then i'm contacting their host. |
| 10:29.47 | Cairenn | we did, remember? they blew us off too |
| 10:29.52 | jnwhiteh | really? |
| 10:29.58 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 10:30.07 | Cairenn | ask Shirik about it when he's around again |
| 10:31.21 | nevcairiel | irresponsible hosts are ftw |
| 10:31.41 | Cairenn | they also deleted all of our posts (not surprising) |
| 10:31.58 | Cairenn | but golly gee, the mods are all still up on the site |
| 10:32.04 | jnwhiteh | this really really pisses me off |
| 10:32.04 | jnwhiteh | oh |
| 10:32.07 | jnwhiteh | they changed one of my posts |
| 10:32.10 | jnwhiteh | to say "LightHeaded sucks" |
| 10:32.13 | jnwhiteh | and thats the only one they left. |
| 10:32.18 | Cairenn | and they are still pulling news posts from the other sites |
| 10:34.10 | jnwhiteh | ah-ha |
| 10:34.11 | jnwhiteh | got it |
| 10:34.19 | jnwhiteh | they're hosting at theplanet.com |
| 10:34.22 | jnwhiteh | I know they'llr espond |
| 10:34.29 | Cairenn | they wouldn't to Shirik |
| 10:34.43 | jnwhiteh | really? |
| 10:35.15 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16534 (the rest of you won't be able to see it, it's in our staff forum) |
| 10:35.22 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 10:35.24 | zenzio | show-offs :-( |
| 10:35.25 | jnwhiteh | i should read up on it. |
| 10:36.32 | jnwhiteh | he contacted domainsbyproxy |
| 10:36.34 | jnwhiteh | not theplanet |
| 10:37.25 | jnwhiteh | I think |
| 10:37.32 | jnwhiteh | I dunno, its hard to see who he sent it to |
| 10:37.40 | Cairenn | he contacted ummm ... crap, hang on, lemme go digging through my log file from the channel |
| 10:38.10 | jnwhiteh | he could have contacted godaddy, domainsbyproxy themselves, or theplanet |
| 10:38.20 | jnwhiteh | not sure which he hit |
| 10:40.28 | Cairenn | we got all kinds of info on them, hang on, going through logs |
| 10:41.08 | Cairenn | ahhh, hostgator was one |
| 10:41.35 | Cairenn | (2008-06-02 20:34:50) Cairenn: hokay, so |
| 10:41.35 | Cairenn | (2008-06-02 20:35:12) Cairenn: what do we want to do about Wowkon? |
| 10:41.35 | Cairenn | (2008-06-02 20:38:36) Dolby: wonder if there are samples some where on the net |
| 10:41.35 | Cairenn | (2008-06-02 20:39:55) Dolby: then we could write a template and have each author email in a complaint |
| 10:41.49 | Cairenn | (2008-06-02 20:39:57) Cairenn: who is hostgator in relation to wowkon? (I know, you guys said all this already) |
| 10:41.50 | Cairenn | (2008-06-02 20:40:10) Dolby: hostgator is their shared host |
| 10:41.50 | Cairenn | (2008-06-02 20:40:26) Cairenn: but not the data center or isp? |
| 10:41.50 | Cairenn | (2008-06-02 20:40:30) Dolby: hostgator's servers are in theplanet datacenter |
| 10:41.50 | Cairenn | (2008-06-02 20:40:44) Dolby: so could go the planet and have their server pulled |
| 10:41.51 | Cairenn | (2008-06-02 20:40:48) Cairenn: so we could theoretically say screw hostgator and go straight to ... yeah |
| 10:42.01 | Cairenn | (2008-06-02 20:40:55) Dolby: and then they would have a ton of angery clients |
| 10:42.01 | Cairenn | (2008-06-02 20:41:36) Dolby: but we should write a DMCA take down template |
| 10:42.01 | Cairenn | (2008-06-02 20:41:44) Dolby: with fill in the blanks for the authors |
| 10:42.01 | Cairenn | (2008-06-02 20:42:00) Cairenn: okay |
| 10:42.03 | Cairenn | (2008-06-02 20:42:17) Dolby: that way we have something in the future for the authors to use |
| 10:42.18 | Cairenn | (2008-06-02 20:47:45) Dolby: http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-make-a-DMCA-Take-Down-notice/ |
| 10:42.30 | Cairenn | (2008-06-02 20:50:44) Dolby: DCMA template downloads.... http://www.tareeinternet.com/forum/seo/263-dmca-template.html |
| 10:42.43 | Cairenn | (2008-06-02 20:50:59) Dolby: err DMCA |
| 10:42.54 | Cairenn | (2008-06-02 20:52:54) Cairenn: so the ISP DMCA would be the one we'd need? |
| 10:43.05 | zenzio | I realize there's little traffic right now, but wouldn't it still have been better to pastey it? |
| 10:43.21 | Corrodias | good old DMCA notices. i remember an ESA representative and i had some back-and-forth during my years at college. and by that i mean he'd send me a notice, i'd respond with a rebuttal, he'd ignore it, and i'd put the file back up |
| 10:43.27 | Cairenn | yeah, it would, but it's 6:45 am and I have a migraine |
| 10:43.33 | Cairenn | not thinking right, sorry |
| 10:43.59 | zenzio | hey, you're the dominatrix in here, no need to apologize |
| 10:44.05 | nevcairiel | dont worry about it, not like it interrupted anyone know, just set a bad example for zenzio :D |
| 10:44.05 | Cairenn | yes there is |
| 10:44.37 | zenzio | I set bad examples all the time nevcairiel, but usually from home (as zenzelezz) |
| 10:44.58 | Corrodias | i wish i had something to snack on besides dried dates |
| 10:45.00 | zenzio | apparently I can't even read right now |
| 10:45.04 | Corrodias | and prunes, which don't get along with me |
| 10:45.19 | sioraiocht | prunes don't really get along iwth anyone, imo |
| 10:46.20 | Corrodias | for me, they start vaporizing upon reaching my stomach. they must just completely become gaseous. i really can't eat any or i will wish i hadn't. |
| 10:52.06 | Kirov | My fiancee had some baking milk chocolate in the pantry... I openned a bag earlier and started muching on it |
| 10:52.56 | Corrodias | -milk- chocolate? for baking? i didn't know that existed |
| 10:53.54 | Kirov | for things like cookies |
| 10:54.07 | |pez| | omnomnom |
| 10:54.07 | Kirov | chocolate chip cookies |
| 10:54.17 | |pez| | I should go find some chocolate. |
| 10:54.40 | Corrodias | wouldn't you just use sweetened chocolate chips or chunks for that? |
| 10:55.00 | Corrodias | sorry, maybe i'm confused about what "baking chocolate" is |
| 10:55.34 | Corrodias | i thought it was unsweetened powder, maybe blocks |
| 10:55.48 | Kirov | usually, yes |
| 10:56.06 | sioraiocht | :t xor |
| 10:56.11 | Kirov | these are chocolate chips |
| 10:56.17 | sioraiocht | wrong channel, sorrry |
| 10:56.29 | Fisker- | sup with sitedrama? |
| 10:58.20 | Cairenn | hang on |
| 10:58.47 | jnwhiteh | I'm submitting a DMCA takedown notification for wowkon.com for the materials of mine that have been posted there. |
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| 10:59.44 | zenzio | cool =) |
| 11:01.56 | Fisker- | wowkon is down here |
| 11:02.20 | nevcairiel | works for me |
| 11:03.29 | nevcairiel | hah they dont even host my addons |
| 11:04.12 | Corrodias | yours are not profitable enough |
| 11:04.19 | jnwhiteh | I can't make the claim for curse |
| 11:04.28 | jnwhiteh | hopefully mine is enough to shut them down |
| 11:04.37 | jnwhiteh | otherwise we'll have to have everyone submit one. |
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| 11:09.07 | Cairenn | okay, without spamming the shit out of you guys this time .... http://wowuidev.pastey.net/93496 |
| 11:09.33 | Cairenn | there's the whole deal (with the exception of the email Shirik sent) with Wowkon as discussed in the WoWI staff channel |
| 11:10.11 | jnwhiteh | Basically we posted nicely asking for our materialto be removed |
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| 11:10.16 | jnwhiteh | that included quite a number of the community |
| 11:10.23 | jnwhiteh | those posts have all been deleted or changed |
| 11:10.26 | Cairenn | yeah, wish we still had copies of our posts |
| 11:10.29 | jnwhiteh | and the materials persist |
| 11:11.00 | Cairenn | since there were "official" ones from me for WoWI, Kaelten for Ace, someone else for Curse (don't recall who atm), all of us quoting from our ToS's, etc |
| 11:11.17 | Cairenn | but they've deleted all of those posts |
| 11:11.44 | Cairenn | and banned all of us |
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| 11:12.19 | Cairenn | that log is over a period of days and weeks |
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| 11:22.14 | Cairenn | just a reminder guys, BlizzCon tickets go on sale in ~4 hrs, if they go on sale right when Blizz's offices open |
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| 11:31.32 | |pez| | I wanna go to BlizzCon |
| 11:31.43 | nevcairiel | me too |
| 11:31.50 | nevcairiel | but its too expensive from over the pond |
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| 11:32.33 | |pez| | nevcairiel: yeaah.. |
| 11:32.35 | |pez| | OH! |
| 11:32.42 | |pez| | We can get a rowing boat. ;P |
| 11:32.58 | zenzio | then you'd have to shell out on food |
| 11:33.08 | |pez| | fishing pole! |
| 11:33.12 | |pez| | do like the guy in waterworld. |
| 11:34.26 | batrick | is that goblin therapist mod as awesome as it looks? |
| 11:34.35 | batrick | i guess it must be... |
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| 11:48.59 | Cairenn | batrick: it was one of the ones that got the highest number of votes |
| 11:49.05 | Fisker- | l2scam nevcairiel |
| 11:49.23 | Cairenn | every one of the top 10 had 3 or more votes |
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| 11:51.19 | Vinay | hey can some one help me with a ? |
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| 11:51.59 | Vinay | hello is anyone in here that can help me out |
| 11:52.11 | Cairenn | ask |
| 11:53.02 | Rabbitbunny | Cairenn: wowi coverage of wowkon affair? |
| 11:53.04 | Vinay | i just downloaded cosmos addon for my wow game and it works great but when i go to a merchant and try to sell something my left click dose not work i cant drop the item i want to sell into their bag |
| 11:53.12 | Cairenn | Rabbitbunny: hmm? |
| 11:53.30 | Rabbitbunny | Cairenn: is there something of the forums yet? |
| 11:53.45 | Cairenn | what do you mean? |
| 11:53.57 | Rabbitbunny | err, on. something on the forums. |
| 11:54.17 | Cairenn | which forums, theirs? they deleted all of our posts and banned us |
| 11:54.36 | Rabbitbunny | No, not theirs, wowi's. |
| 11:54.43 | Cairenn | no, nothing on our forums |
| 11:54.51 | Rabbitbunny | kk, tyvm |
| 11:54.58 | Vinay | cairenn can you help me |
| 11:54.59 | Cairenn | just the pastey I linked |
| 11:55.16 | Cairenn | Vinay: unfortunately I'm not sure why it would be causing that problem for you |
| 11:55.22 | Cairenn | did you look on their forums? |
| 11:55.41 | Vinay | no how do i do that |
| 11:55.52 | Cairenn | go to the site you downloaded it from .... |
| 11:56.06 | Vinay | ok |
| 11:56.11 | Vinay | thanks |
| 11:56.37 | Cairenn | http://www.cosmosui.org/ |
| 11:56.59 | Cairenn | and check their forums, their FAQ, etc - may have something posted if others have had the same problem |
| 11:57.18 | Cairenn | if not, post a thread asking for help, give them as much detail as you can |
| 11:58.25 | Vinay | ok |
| 11:58.45 | Cairenn | good luck :) |
| 11:58.52 | Cairenn | Rabbitbunny: did you see my pastey? |
| 11:59.16 | Rabbitbunny | Cairenn: Yup. |
| 11:59.19 | Cairenn | k |
| 11:59.40 | Vinay | do you know how to disable and enable addon during the game |
| 11:59.45 | Rabbitbunny | Just wondering if there was a posting to direct authors into a singularorganized front. |
| 12:00.22 | Cairenn | Vinay: sorry, I don't recall how in Cosmos any more |
| 12:00.30 | Vinay | ok |
| 12:00.41 | Cairenn | Rabbitbunny: if authors want us to, we are certainly willing to have a thread about it |
| 12:01.27 | Cairenn | we will back you guys as much as we can, but if no one asks for our help ... /shrug |
| 12:01.35 | Punkie | How much is a blizzcon ticket? |
| 12:01.40 | Cairenn | $100 |
| 12:01.41 | Cairenn | US |
| 12:01.41 | Rabbitbunny | Mine has only been out in the wild for a number of hours, But I suspect other authors may lack the information on DMCA takedowns. |
| 12:01.54 | Punkie | I'm tempted :P |
| 12:02.00 | Punkie | its a weekend thing I guess? |
| 12:02.19 | Cairenn | friday/saturday |
| 12:02.42 | ckknight | jnwhiteh: yea, I was Boss before because my character in WoW was Boss. In hindsight, changing everything to ckknight was a good idea |
| 12:03.03 | Punkie | The biggest problem I think I'd have would be to get someone to come with me :P |
| 12:03.11 | |pez| | Oh, I'm gonna go see Hellboy 2 today ^__^ |
| 12:05.20 | Punkie | Cairenn: I guess you've been to a blizzcon before? |
| 12:05.27 | Cairenn | both of the previous ones |
| 12:05.55 | Punkie | I guess they have a lot of merchendise? |
| 12:06.01 | Cairenn | oh yes |
| 12:06.06 | Punkie | oh no :( |
| 12:06.14 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |
| 12:06.20 | Punkie | now i have to strongly consider not going :P |
| 12:06.28 | Punkie | i'm always a sucker for stuff like that :P |
| 12:07.05 | Cairenn | I was so proud of myself the first year - I managed to walk out of there without having bought a single thing (although I did pick up a couple souvenirs from Disney that year) |
| 12:07.12 | Cairenn | didn't do so well the second one ;) |
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| 12:08.16 | Punkie | Flight time is around 12 hours |
| 12:08.19 | Punkie | from england |
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| 12:11.03 | Punkie | £350 flight, man, tempted :( |
| 12:11.29 | nevcairiel | so was i, until i saw the prices |
| 12:11.31 | Cairenn | yeah, it's usually about 8 hrs travel from here |
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| 12:11.54 | nevcairiel | cant really afford about ~600 for a weekend o.O |
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| 12:12.30 | Punkie | but it's one of those things that will just be awesome |
| 12:12.48 | nevcairiel | I'll go when i start earning enough money |
| 12:13.05 | nevcairiel | university doesnt pay me for learning |
| 12:13.07 | nevcairiel | ..sadly |
| 12:13.08 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 12:13.22 | Punkie | ah fair enough |
| 12:13.56 | nevcairiel | maybe next blizzcon already |
| 12:13.57 | nevcairiel | who knows |
| 12:14.10 | Punkie | is it always on the same date? |
| 12:14.13 | Cairenn | no |
| 12:14.26 | nevcairiel | wtt coding skills for blizzcon ticket+travel! |
| 12:14.48 | Punkie | Fed-ex yourself to Cairenn's hotel room |
| 12:14.53 | Cairenn | lol |
| 12:16.40 | |pez|away | the away nick, it is just a lie. :P |
| 12:16.59 | nevcairiel | so you are here, really? |
| 12:17.08 | Cairenn | BlizzCon '05 28 & 29 Oct, BlizzCon '07 3 & 4 Aug, BlizzCon '08 10 & 11 Oct |
| 12:17.22 | |pez|away | nevcairiel: most of the time. |
| 12:17.31 | |pez|away | there's just a tard PMing me. :P |
| 12:17.31 | Punkie | Ok, so |
| 12:17.43 | Punkie | I've just e-mailed some of my friends to ask if they want to go :P |
| 12:20.01 | Punkie | who is allowed to the dinner and disney thingy btw? |
| 12:20.32 | Cairenn | anyone that wants to go |
| 12:21.05 | Cairenn | those aren't part of BlizzCon, just something the UI community likes to do in addition to the 'con |
| 12:21.20 | Punkie | that's nice |
| 12:21.39 | Cairenn | a chance for us all to hang out, since at the 'con itself everyone is going in 15 different directions ;) |
| 12:22.30 | Cairenn | but because we like to do it, it helps to have an estimate on numbers, especially for the supper, so we can make reservations somewhere |
| 12:22.54 | Cairenn | can't expect a restaurant to be able to host a huge group without some advance warning |
| 12:23.31 | Punkie | true |
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| 12:24.47 | Cairenn | last year we had 22+ for supper |
| 12:25.00 | Cairenn | and I figure it'll be even more this year |
| 12:25.35 | Punkie | well my work colleague is now tempted :P |
| 12:26.51 | nevcairiel | heh speaking of rushing restaurants, we used to do that after our LAN Partys, all the organisation staff (about 20 people) and just rushed into some restaurant, most of the time they even managed :) |
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| 12:28.52 | Punkie | are the tickets likey to get sold out today? |
| 12:28.54 | Cairenn | nevcairiel: yeah, but that's a lan party, not a convention when there are thousands of people all looking for food at the same time, plus disney on top of that |
| 12:29.00 | Cairenn | Punkie: very possibly |
| 12:29.10 | Cairenn | they were sold out in what, 3 days?, last time? |
| 12:29.11 | Punkie | oki, thanks for the info |
| 12:29.20 | nevcairiel | true, you wont be the only people trying to eat =P |
| 12:30.41 | jnwhiteh | Punkie: $535 USD from LHR to LAX |
| 12:30.54 | jnwhiteh | I cant go, so you need to |
| 12:30.56 | zenzio | hey now, don't assume LANs can't have big attendence: http://www.gathering.org/tg07/gallery/albums/participants-pirctures/DSC_0021.JPG |
| 12:31.03 | zenzio | they still need to eat |
| 12:31.15 | Cairenn | zenzio: didn't say that they can't be |
| 12:31.43 | nevcairiel | zenzio: well we went when anyone else was home already, after cleaning up etc, so that factor really fell out .) |
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| 12:32.09 | Bouvi | Morning :) |
| 12:32.11 | jnwhiteh | long time no see Bouvi :P |
| 12:32.19 | Cairenn | hey stranger |
| 12:32.26 | jnwhiteh | still on Stormrage? |
| 12:32.45 | Bouvi | I am back..... hmm feeling a little psycho. Yep still on SR. |
| 12:33.12 | jnwhiteh | I'm cancelling my US account so cladhaire, sagart, draoi, sealgaire, mallaithe, modothea and fyria are being retired =( |
| 12:33.22 | Bouvi | :( |
| 12:33.30 | Cairenn | :( |
| 12:34.03 | Bouvi | I play mostly on Fortunia now. I call her Bouvi on the WotLK beta thou. |
| 12:34.10 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 12:34.25 | Bouvi | Thanks again guys for all the work in getting the keys :) |
| 12:34.36 | Bouvi | Got my addon fixed now just testing everything lol |
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| 12:38.10 | Bouvi | How have you guys been? |
| 12:38.17 | jnwhiteh | busy, but well :P |
| 12:38.42 | Bouvi | Good to hear. Busy is good at times. :) |
| 12:39.58 | jnwhiteh | the book is done |
| 12:40.05 | jnwhiteh | not that the work for that ever stop |
| 12:40.14 | jnwhiteh | my PhD keeps me very busy |
| 12:40.22 | jnwhiteh | and I try to spend the rest of my time playing or doing addons :P |
| 12:40.26 | Bouvi | NICE. |
| 12:40.36 | jnwhiteh | I fail most of the tme, but its the thought that counts :P |
| 12:41.09 | Bouvi | I hear that. I have been so busy traveling lately. This weekend was the first I was not busy in a long time. |
| 12:41.34 | jnwhiteh | traveling good traveling? |
| 12:42.11 | Bouvi | Martial Arts related. Tournaments, Nationals, Conferences, etc. |
| 12:42.29 | Bouvi | You have Richard on the cover of your book!!!! |
| 12:43.23 | jnwhiteh | I do! |
| 12:43.28 | jnwhiteh | :P |
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| 12:44.18 | Cairenn | morning Lopeppeppy |
| 12:44.23 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Cairenn. |
| 12:44.27 | Bouvi | I am sooo going to buy it. |
| 12:44.45 | Cairenn | just a reminder, BlizzCon tickets go on sale ~2 hrs, if they go on sale right when the Blizz offices open |
| 12:45.06 | Bouvi | I want to be a better addon programmer and it has richard. That is a bonus lol. |
| 12:45.46 | Bouvi | Amazon a good place to buy or do you get more of a cut from somewhere else? |
| 12:45.48 | Cairenn | I want them to hurry up and go on sale so I can buy the one I need to buy then go sleep :p |
| 12:46.03 | Lopeppeppy | I'm opening up my browser window already, Cairenn. :) |
| 12:46.06 | jnwhiteh | Bouvi: http://wowprogramming.com/store |
| 12:46.18 | jnwhiteh | Bouvi: if you're gonna buy through amazon, do it through there and we get affiliate $$# |
| 12:46.23 | Cairenn | just wanted to remind :) |
| 12:46.27 | jnwhiteh | which helps keep the online reference site running :P |
| 12:46.38 | Bouvi | Consider it done |
| 12:47.08 | jnwhiteh | yay |
| 12:47.16 | jnwhiteh | DMCA takedown notices sent |
| 12:47.25 | Lopeppeppy | Yay? |
| 12:47.27 | Cairenn | good |
| 12:48.59 | jnwhiteh | If anyone wants a template I can provide one for the site |
| 12:50.05 | Bouvi | Ordered it :D |
| 12:50.24 | jnwhiteh | huzzah! |
| 12:51.53 | Punkie | jnwhiteh: link? |
| 12:52.09 | Bouvi | Template for what? |
| 12:52.40 | jnwhiteh | Punkie: for? |
| 12:52.46 | Punkie | flights :P |
| 12:52.50 | jnwhiteh | Bouvi: DMCA takedown for wowkon.com |
| 12:53.37 | jnwhiteh | Punkie: http://www.sidestep.com/s/flights.jsp?searchid=Re6D39atMpiDQ8n73doe5Q&completed=true |
| 12:53.42 | jnwhiteh | let me know if that doesn't work |
| 12:53.45 | Bouvi | Forgive my braindeadness but what is DMCA Takedown |
| 12:53.48 | Cairenn | Bouvi: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/93496 |
| 12:54.07 | Punkie | jnwhiteh: it didn't work :) |
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| 12:54.09 | jnwhiteh | but its LHR to LAX on Oct 10th (or 9th) returning Oxt 13th |
| 12:54.13 | jnwhiteh | Punkie: Go to sidestep.com |
| 12:54.16 | jnwhiteh | LHR to LAX |
| 12:54.21 | jnwhiteh | Can do either oct 9 or oct 10 |
| 12:54.24 | jnwhiteh | and return oct 13th |
| 12:54.45 | Vinay | can someone help me with a ? |
| 12:54.45 | jnwhiteh | its orbitz.com, taking Northwest on the way there, and Air France on the way back |
| 12:55.30 | jnwhiteh | Bouvi: Digitial Milennium Copyright Act. http://wowkon.com is infringing on my copyright by hosting their addons as if they were teh sole creators and distributors of them, in violation of my licensing. So I've requested that their ISP disable their site to remove the offending material. |
| 12:55.48 | jnwhiteh | Punkie: and it works out to be $535, which is ass-cheap! |
| 12:55.49 | Bouvi | Good for you! |
| 12:56.10 | Punkie | jnwhiteh: awesome thanks |
| 12:56.42 | Bouvi | I wish I could make Blizzcon but have no extra vacation time, etc |
| 13:02.52 | Arrowmaster | i wish i could make it to blizzcon, but have no money |
| 13:04.57 | Lopeppeppy | I'm going on a bread and water diet so I can make Blizzcon. :) |
| 13:06.47 | Arrowmaster | even if i did that i couldnt afford it |
| 13:06.51 | Arrowmaster | i have 0 income |
| 13:09.40 | Bouvi | I have income but debts > income. Go figure. |
| 13:10.20 | ckknight | I'd go if I had time to take off from work |
| 13:10.44 | Arrowmaster | pff get work to pay for you to go |
| 13:11.46 | ckknight | but I'm not a journalist-type or anything |
| 13:12.00 | ckknight | though I did play one on TV once... |
| 13:12.07 | Arrowmaster | learn quick |
| 13:12.11 | ckknight | no wait, that was Clark Kent |
| 13:12.17 | ckknight | same initials |
| 13:12.18 | ckknight | gets confusing |
| 13:12.51 | ckknight | what day is it, anyway? |
| 13:13.17 | Arrowmaster | monday i think, but im never sure |
| 13:13.18 | Lopeppeppy | Yellow |
| 13:13.37 | ckknight | October 10-11 |
| 13:13.42 | Arrowmaster | since it switches days half way through the period of time that im awake |
| 13:13.43 | ckknight | that's a week after my brother's wedding |
| 13:14.11 | ckknight | it's kind of one or the other, I only have so much time I can take off without seeming suspicious |
| 13:14.51 | Lopeppeppy | You is suspiciouis!! |
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| 13:15.48 | ckknight | this is the time when I'd rather work for myself, cause then I could take time off when I want and make it up on the weekends or whatever |
| 13:16.19 | Lopeppeppy | I hear ya. |
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| 13:22.49 | Bouvi | *sniff* Richard found a lost friend. |
| 13:23.07 | Lopeppeppy | Was he down the well, Lassie? |
| 13:24.20 | Bouvi | He was sitting on a rock after Richard returned from the other realm. Touching. |
| 13:24.38 | Bouvi | http://lfgcomic.com/ |
| 13:25.16 | kd3 | looks like blizzcon tickets are on sale |
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| 13:28.12 | jnwhiteh | zomg |
| 13:28.20 | jnwhiteh | Cairenn: ping, tickets on sale |
| 13:28.53 | Cairenn | thanks |
| 13:32.30 | Cairenn | it keeps telling me login failed |
| 13:33.23 | jnwhiteh | yeah dunno |
| 13:33.34 | Cairenn | you having same problem? |
| 13:33.43 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. |
| 13:33.50 | Cairenn | okay, so not just me |
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| 13:35.05 | Cairenn | I didn't expect them to be on sale for another 1.5 hr yet |
| 13:35.20 | Cairenn | their offices don't (normally) open until 8 pacific |
| 13:36.26 | Lopeppeppy | Grrrrr.... It tells me my email is in use. When I try to log in with it, it tells me it doesn't exist. Grrr. |
| 13:39.49 | Punkie | Lopeppeppy: me too |
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| 13:40.39 | Lopeppeppy | .... "already in use" |
| 13:40.58 | Cairenn | that's more than I'm getting :p |
| 13:41.03 | Lopeppeppy | But... it just sent the confirmation.... oh I'm so confused. |
| 13:41.18 | alestane | The auth server's probably getting psyched up for the meteor of traffic that will be hitting it in the next half hour or so. |
| 13:42.03 | Punkie | oh btw 2 friends responded to say they want to go soooo :D |
| 13:43.13 | Cairenn | oh great, now I"m getting "too many attempts" |
| 13:43.34 | krka | oh cool, iriel and guilliotine is on qdb |
| 13:43.45 | Cairenn | qdb? |
| 13:44.01 | kd3 | bash or one of the others? |
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| 13:45.50 | krka | qdb.us |
| 13:46.47 | cog|sleep | moo... i got through the entire process, was at the final order approval step and... "An error has occurred" |
| 13:46.55 | cog|sleep | and now i can't log in |
| 13:47.17 | Cairenn | I haven't gotten that far |
| 13:48.12 | Lopeppeppy | I got as far as my credit card info once. *frownies* |
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| 13:48.57 | Bouvi | Wish they had an East Coast Version like in Atlanta of Blizzcon |
| 13:49.23 | Maldivia | feels like me last monday at 10am, when tickets for The Final One were put on sale :) |
| 13:50.23 | Shirik|Ecole | :( |
| 13:51.35 | cog|sleep | of course, I suffered no illusions that it would be this way today :P |
| 13:51.48 | cog|sleep | wouldn't* |
| 13:51.53 | Lopeppeppy | :P Very true |
| 13:51.59 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah anyone with half a brain would know that :) |
| 13:52.07 | Cairenn | I figured it'd be nuts |
| 13:52.15 | Maldivia | hmm, if I were to go blizzcon, I'd would hope for a bag with a pally-bubble in it :) |
| 13:53.08 | Cairenn | (2008-08-11 09:45:20) Punkie: Cairenn: The hotel you posted is now fully booked :( |
| 13:53.37 | Punkie | only for the friday/saturday night i think btw |
| 13:53.45 | Punkie | but that's still useless :P |
| 13:53.55 | Lopeppeppy | I'm glad that they got themselves full up, honestly. Good for them! |
| 13:54.51 | Lopeppeppy | Means I was silly to wait until I had a ticket to book a room. Oopsies. :) |
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| 13:56.16 | Shirik|Ecole | :( Lopeppeppy |
| 13:56.43 | Shirik|Ecole | it's ok, you can sleep in my room *grins* |
| 13:56.55 | Lopeppeppy | On the roll away bed, right? *laugh* |
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| 13:57.52 | Cairenn | Seerah: tickets on sale, go go! |
| 13:57.59 | Shirik|Ecole | not that you can log in |
| 13:58.01 | Shirik|Ecole | but they're on sale anyway |
| 13:58.03 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 13:58.05 | Cairenn | but go go anyway |
| 13:58.33 | alestane | brb |
| 13:58.43 | Shirik|Ecole | this reminds me |
| 13:58.44 | kd3 | gah, I hit the confirm-order step and now it's all just the murloc |
| 13:58.49 | Shirik|Ecole | I should remember to book the plane ticket |
| 13:59.09 | Lopeppeppy | Me too, kd3. *hug* |
| 13:59.18 | Lopeppeppy | And yes, Shirik|Ecole, plane is next |
| 13:59.37 | Cairenn | I haven't even been able to get logged in ... |
| 13:59.58 | Shirik|Ecole | ok.... why is the fire alarm going off -_- |
| 14:00.06 | Cairenn | ugh, not good |
| 14:00.07 | Shirik|Ecole | FINALS WEEK = NO INTERRUPTIONS FFS |
| 14:00.12 | Cide | so that you can't buy tickets |
| 14:00.16 | kd3 | it's a conspiracy to get you out of your room so you can't buy tickets |
| 14:00.21 | kd3 | bah, too slow |
| 14:00.22 | Lopeppeppy | Yuppers |
| 14:00.25 | Cide | I win |
| 14:01.58 | Shirik|Ecole | rofl, the construction workers next door cut the line apparently, so it tripped as a fail-safe |
| 14:02.03 | Shirik|Ecole | they win |
| 14:02.10 | p3lim | coldarra northrend server dead again? |
| 14:02.13 | Cairenn | fun |
| 14:02.51 | p3lim | every time i try to kill the last boss in Utgarde something happens (he is bugged, server dies, my net dies) |
| 14:03.04 | p3lim | 7 times ive run the instance, never succeeded to kill him :/ |
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| 14:04.40 | Cairenn | lalala |
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| 14:04.59 | Seerah | Cairenn: hubby couldn't get logged in either, and neither can I |
| 14:05.05 | Cairenn | lalala |
| 14:05.10 | Cairenn | :) |
| 14:05.23 | Seerah | keeps saying "Login Failed" is that what you get? |
| 14:05.32 | Cairenn | that and "too many attempts" |
| 14:05.36 | Seerah | hehe |
| 14:05.37 | Cairenn | because I'm spamming it :p |
| 14:05.47 | Lopeppeppy | Bloody murlocs |
| 14:05.50 | Shirik|Ecole | ok well, good luck with tickets |
| 14:05.52 | cog|sleep | ooooh I got logged in again! but everything in the blizzard store says An error has occurred |
| 14:05.53 | Shirik|Ecole | time for test |
| 14:06.03 | Lopeppeppy | Good luck, Shirik|Ecole |
| 14:06.05 | Cairenn | good luck with exam Shirik :) |
| 14:06.14 | Seerah | yay shirik |
| 14:06.17 | Seerah | rah rah rah |
| 14:06.32 | Cairenn | sis boom bah! |
| 14:06.42 | Lopeppeppy | Get 'em, Tiger. |
| 14:07.25 | Cairenn | lol, the 'con isn't going to be the same after the three of us girls get together down there ;) |
| 14:07.35 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, for serious! |
| 14:07.50 | Cairenn | and get rislyn in on the act |
| 14:08.01 | Lopeppeppy | That I seriously look forward to. :) |
| 14:08.09 | alestane | Are you *trying* to make the world explode? |
| 14:08.15 | Cairenn | hell yes! |
| 14:08.27 | Lopeppeppy | With bells, baby! |
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| 14:09.47 | Lopeppeppy | I took a lesson while I was at Pennsic. |
| 14:10.05 | Cairenn | did you have fun? |
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| 14:10.21 | Lopeppeppy | It was a riot and a blast and I got more freckles and lots of people to love... so much fun! |
| 14:10.29 | Cairenn | :) |
| 14:11.22 | Lopeppeppy | We stayed maybe a day too long, 'cause I was out of things to do by Thursday afternoon. But still, just to see stars without city lights behind them is priceless. |
| 14:11.33 | Cairenn | yup |
| 14:11.38 | Cairenn | I adore Pennsic |
| 14:12.35 | Lopeppeppy | I think next year I'll limit it to 5 days though, not 7. Only so many times I can watch Wolgemut in a row. |
| 14:14.01 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: you'll [hopefully] appreciate this: http://www.cairenn-mmorpg.com/images/various/private/belly%20dance.gif |
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| 14:15.31 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, without doubt. *hug* |
| 14:15.39 | Cairenn | :) |
| 14:15.59 | Punkie | has anyone been able to log in to the blizzard store thingy? |
| 14:16.05 | Lopeppeppy | Not much, Punkie. |
| 14:16.07 | Cairenn | please tell me I didn't show that to you before, or I'll feel really dumb |
| 14:16.25 | Punkie | not much??! |
| 14:16.26 | Fisker- | i want to try out that Cairenn mmorpg |
| 14:16.34 | Fisker- | i put on my wizard hat |
| 14:16.41 | Lopeppeppy | No Cairenn, you haven't. *smile* |
| 14:20.24 | Cairenn | lalala |
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| 14:21.48 | Fisker- | damn |
| 14:21.54 | Fisker- | those Cairenn mmorpg fees are outrageous |
| 14:22.41 | kd3 | gah! "there was an error processing your request. go back and try again", then... "An error has occurred." |
| 14:22.51 | Lopeppeppy | Dumb murloc. |
| 14:23.22 | kd3 | but at least the back button keeps swapping between checkout and confirmorder now. |
| 14:23.47 | Punkie | kd3: Could you log in? Apparently when I try to sign up I've already registered although I can't log in with any password I've ever used |
| 14:23.53 | kd3 | I'm in |
| 14:24.00 | kd3 | I'm a few clicks from giving blizz $100 |
| 14:24.03 | Seerah | we're not :( |
| 14:24.24 | Fisker- | lololo fanbois, you're giving blizzard money, lol n00bs |
| 14:24.26 | Lopeppeppy | Punkie: I had to close my browser and re-open it when I had that issue. And then keep trying with the password I knew worked, 'cause it takes a lot of tries. |
| 14:25.07 | Fisker- | argh i must construct additional bridges for me to troll under |
| 14:25.21 | alestane | On a note actually related to UI creation, does anyone know if you can define an <Attribute> element with content rather than using the value="" attribute? |
| 14:25.30 | Lopeppeppy | Pretty much, the billy goats gruff here aren't impressed anymore, Fisker- |
| 14:25.45 | Fisker- | :( |
| 14:26.16 | Seerah | lalala |
| 14:26.49 | Cairenn | Seerah: hehehe |
| 14:28.34 | Cairenn | cog|away: tickets on sale, go go! |
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| 14:30.19 | AckisWork | hehe blizz site is getting hammered |
| 14:30.33 | Cairenn | yes >< |
| 14:30.47 | Cairenn | lemme buy ticket so I can go sleep! |
| 14:30.51 | AckisWork | lol |
| 14:30.57 | AckisWork | sleep is for the weak! |
| 14:31.08 | Cairenn | yes |
| 14:32.11 | Seerah | ouch |
| 14:32.23 | Punkie | it was a kickstart to your brain :o |
| 14:33.14 | AckisWork | login failed, login failed!! ahh |
| 14:33.37 | Seerah | did my brain need kickstarting?... |
| 14:33.50 | AckisWork | wasn't it obvious Seerah? |
| 14:33.58 | Seerah | no :P |
| 14:34.19 | Punkie | shh! |
| 14:34.25 | AckisWork | o |
| 14:34.31 | AckisWork | well it is to the rest of us ;) |
| 14:34.43 | Cairenn | omg omg omg! |
| 14:34.52 | Seerah | yay Cairenn |
| 14:34.54 | Cairenn | "login failed" |
| 14:34.58 | Seerah | oh :( |
| 14:35.08 | Seerah | ~lart Cairenn |
| 14:35.08 | purl | breaks out the Hoover and sucks up Cairenn |
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| 14:35.50 | Fisker- | i'm also trying to buy ticket |
| 14:35.52 | Fisker- | tickets |
| 14:35.56 | Fisker- | but only to overload the server |
| 14:35.58 | Fisker- | i won't actually buy any |
| 14:36.17 | AckisWork | oh Fisker- how I love you |
| 14:36.27 | Fisker- | F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5 etc. |
| 14:36.41 | Seerah | if you get in will you pick one up for me? ;) |
| 14:37.45 | Punkie | I'm still trying to register an account here :P |
| 14:38.32 | Fisker- | never Seerah |
| 14:38.54 | Cairenn | registering an account here is easy ... trying to register one on the Blizz Store site, however, might prove difficult today |
| 14:39.41 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 14:39.57 | Cairenn | I haven't slept in far too many hours, I'm easily amused atm |
| 14:40.03 | Punkie | quite :P |
| 14:40.27 | Punkie | it's 3.40pm here so I'm wide awake :P |
| 14:40.47 | krka | 16:40 here, but i am at work so i am not really wide awake :/ |
| 14:41.02 | Cairenn | 10:40, but haven't slept yet |
| 14:41.06 | Punkie | Know what would be awesome |
| 14:41.08 | Bouvi | I did not sleep enough last night. 10:40 am here and wish I was in bed. |
| 14:41.23 | Bouvi | But I am at work. :( |
| 14:41.26 | Punkie | if there was a Stargatecon going on right after blizzcon in the same hall |
| 14:41.55 | Fisker- | AckisWork my friend |
| 14:42.36 | AckisWork | omg Fisker- my love |
| 14:42.55 | AckisWork | so anyways today was the first time I woke up with my cat cuddled in my arms lol I guess he got cold last night |
| 14:43.24 | Fisker- | that's what i would've said as well if i were spooning a cat |
| 14:43.26 | Seerah | awww |
| 14:43.32 | Fisker- | sick bastard, etc. |
| 14:43.44 | Seerah | my kitty used to tunnel under the blankets and sleep by my feet |
| 14:44.29 | AckisWork | there was no spooing :P he curled himself up beside my arm lol |
| 14:44.57 | Fisker- | right |
| 14:45.13 | Fisker- | i heard kitty screams AckisWork |
| 14:45.21 | Fisker- | or moar like moans amirite? |
| 14:45.30 | AckisWork | that was you as I penetrated you :P |
| 14:45.35 | AckisWork | WITH MY FIST IN YOUR FACE |
| 14:45.36 | Fisker- | :( |
| 14:45.38 | AckisWork | AHAHHAHA |
| 14:45.39 | Cairenn | Esamynn: tickets on sale, go go! |
| 14:45.47 | Esamynn | yes, I know |
| 14:45.52 | Esamynn | I'm trying right now ;) |
| 14:45.54 | Cairenn | :p |
| 14:45.57 | Esamynn | it's.... slow going |
| 14:46.04 | Cairenn | tell me about it |
| 14:46.06 | Anaral | Is WUU a good way to update? |
| 14:46.51 | Seerah | oh, this is different.... Instead of the page loading and telling me "login failed", the loading progress bar is sitting @ 50% |
| 14:47.04 | AckisWork | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8765609499 if you support freedom, read that and agree to it |
| 14:47.08 | AckisWork | Seerah: ditto |
| 14:47.09 | Seerah | 80%.... |
| 14:47.41 | durcyn | AckisWork: i support my freedom to disagree with it, nyeh nyeh. |
| 14:47.57 | AckisWork | durcyn: don't you always disagree with me? |
| 14:48.40 | durcyn | no? |
| 14:48.41 | Seerah | ... and login failed |
| 14:48.45 | AckisWork | oh k |
| 14:48.51 | Punkie | ~lart Seerah |
| 14:48.51 | purl | whacks Seerah with the cluebat |
| 14:48.53 | AckisWork | http://ackis.myminicity.com/tra (maybe random people will click) |
| 14:48.55 | Esamynn | Seerah: trying the same thing I am, I take it? |
| 14:49.05 | Esamynn | ~fishslap AckisWork |
| 14:49.06 | purl | ACTION slaps AckisWork up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 14:49.07 | Punkie | AckisWork: oh no you didnt! |
| 14:49.08 | Seerah | quite a few are, esa :) |
| 14:49.31 | Esamynn | no surprise |
| 14:49.42 | AckisWork | I think everyone hates me just a LITTLE bit more when I paste that link hahah |
| 14:50.19 | Punkie | AckisWork: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65I0HNvTDH4 |
| 14:50.22 | Esamynn | that's because you are being completely annoying with it :P |
| 14:51.13 | AckisWork | no I'm not |
| 14:51.15 | Seerah | figured I'd click it just now out of curiosity, and HA!!! I have noscript :) |
| 14:51.44 | AckisWork | annoying would be linking it every few hours, at most I do it twice a day in different channels (and 90% of the time it's directed at DARKGuy because he's an OCD clicker) |
| 14:51.53 | AckisWork | Seerah: it still should've counted lol |
| 14:52.02 | Seerah | counted what? |
| 14:52.12 | AckisWork | this click |
| 14:52.25 | Seerah | what click? |
| 14:52.39 | AckisWork | it's like a lame version of sim city that you click the link and your city grows in some way |
| 14:52.46 | AckisWork | 8:51Seerahfigured I'd click it just now out of curiosity, and HA!!! I have noscript :) |
| 14:53.09 | Seerah | so I made your city grow? |
| 14:53.19 | AckisWork | yes! :D |
| 14:53.59 | Punkie | shoop da woop |
| 14:54.04 | Punkie | I just created an account! |
| 14:54.10 | Cairenn | heh |
| 14:54.40 | Cairenn | I just eated double chocolate pop tarts |
| 14:54.48 | Punkie | :( |
| 14:54.54 | Bouvi | I miss chocolate :( |
| 14:55.01 | Cairenn | I gots a flavur, and it tastes like sugar rush |
| 14:55.48 | Seerah | rofl |
| 14:55.51 | Bouvi | Describe more Cairenn, I needs to taste chocolate through your senses. |
| 14:55.56 | Punkie | i don't even think we have double chocolate pop tarts here :( |
| 14:56.02 | Seerah | I had a Chocolate Instant Breakfast |
| 14:56.04 | Cairenn | it was omnomnomnom |
| 14:56.24 | Seerah | I haven't had a chocolate poptart in ages |
| 14:56.29 | Seerah | we don't even have a toaster anymore |
| 14:56.51 | Bouvi | Ahhhh the memories lol. I think I will cheat and find a chocolate poptart. Just a little sugar won't keel me. |
| 14:57.30 | Cairenn | Bouvi: why are you not eating sugar any more? diagnosed with diabetes? |
| 14:57.38 | krka | poptart... must be some silly american thing |
| 14:57.42 | Bouvi | Yeah, sucks too. |
| 14:58.07 | Cairenn | Bouvi: then don't eat poptarts |
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| 14:58.31 | Cairenn | krka: not exclusively USofAmerican |
| 14:58.32 | Bouvi | Cairenn: Just one :) Maybe two. |
| 14:58.38 | Cairenn | bad |
| 14:58.59 | krka | but definitely not swedish :) |
| 14:59.35 | krka | wtf from wikipedia: In 2001, the United States' military dropped 2.4 million Pop-Tarts in Afghanistan during the United States War in Afghanistan.[9] |
| 14:59.46 | Cairenn | it's pastry with filling [fruit, chocolate, whatever] and icing, that you warm in the toaster |
| 15:00.12 | Cairenn | much sugar, little actual nutrition |
| 15:00.15 | Bouvi | Yeah the doc was trying to figure out why I could not control my weight. I am a 6th Dan Black Belt in TKD but could not lose. Now that I am on good meds I am dropping the weight normally. :) Oh I was going to take up scuba diving but need a Docs ok. Sigh |
| 15:00.25 | Lopeppeppy | Esamynn, I'd love you if you could. |
| 15:00.31 | zenzelezz | <krka> wtf from wikipedia: In 2001, the United States' military dropped 2.4 million Pop-Tarts in Afghanistan during the United States War in Afghanistan.[9] <-- better than the condoms the Germans dropped by mistake in the Soviet |
| 15:01.11 | krka | dropping condoms on your opponents civilians could be a good military strategy |
| 15:01.16 | Cairenn | lalala |
| 15:01.27 | Lopeppeppy | Cairenn, do you put yours in the toaster? I never do... just eat them cold, so that the sugar is better! |
| 15:01.28 | zenzelezz | well, IIRC they dropped it to the Germans trapped in Stalingrad |
| 15:01.37 | Cairenn | I like them a bit melty |
| 15:01.59 | Punkie | logged in! |
| 15:02.05 | Roblibob | krka: You can buy Poptarts in ICAs USA shelf, but i wouldnt recommend them :) |
| 15:02.09 | krka | sugar would be nice right about now |
| 15:02.20 | Cairenn | I've heard they are fantastic frozen, though |
| 15:02.25 | Cairenn | but I've never tried them that way |
| 15:02.37 | Lopeppeppy | I just rip them out of the bags and eat them. I eat grapes frozen though. |
| 15:03.15 | Cairenn | I'll eat them straight out of the bag when camping, car tripping, whatever |
| 15:03.24 | Cairenn | breakfast of champions at pennsic ;) |
| 15:03.36 | Cairenn | oh neat! check out this lovely error I just got |
| 15:03.43 | Cairenn | Error loading stylesheet: An unknown error has occurred (804b000d)https://www.blizzard.com/login/_layout/_output.xml |
| 15:03.54 | Punkie | b000d |
| 15:04.16 | Cairenn | and now I can't connect at all |
| 15:04.24 | Punkie | can you still buy lucky charms in the US? |
| 15:04.25 | Lopeppeppy | I had some strawberry poptarts for Pennsic, but I surprised myself and ate faire food a lot. |
| 15:04.37 | Lopeppeppy | Yes Punkie... Frosted Lucky Charms are magically delicious still. |
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| 15:04.44 | Punkie | frosted as well? |
| 15:04.48 | Bouvi | OMG all this food and sugar.... |
| 15:04.52 | Lopeppeppy | SUGAR! |
| 15:05.28 | Seerah | and now the BlizzStore site won't load at al |
| 15:05.29 | Seerah | *all |
| 15:05.32 | Cairenn | well, looks like the blizz servers have crashed under the load |
| 15:05.46 | Lopeppeppy | We killed it. |
| 15:05.53 | Seerah | go get a couple hours sleep at least, Cairenn |
| 15:05.58 | Cairenn | it's dead jim, you killed it! |
| 15:06.08 | Seerah | tickets aren't being bought up :) |
| 15:06.16 | Seerah | I have stuff I need to do today, too |
| 15:06.22 | Lopeppeppy | Or they sold out already and took down the servers. :| |
| 15:06.29 | Seerah | the whole store? :P |
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| 15:06.55 | Lopeppeppy | Ya. *nods wisely* So no one tries to sneak past the security guards. |
| 15:07.20 | Cairenn | if I don't keep trying and end up missing out on one I'll feel very bad, can't sleep until I get one |
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| 15:12.39 | Daedals | anyone having problems logging in to beta? |
| 15:13.04 | alestane | Anyone remember what the post length limit is? |
| 15:13.06 | Lopeppeppy | Bet all of their email auth servers are down. |
| 15:13.58 | Punkie | oh oh its back on |
| 15:15.54 | Tem|work | would anyone who knows VB like to explain to me WTF a "partial" class is? |
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| 15:17.05 | Punkie | The 'Place Order Now' button doesn't work :S |
| 15:17.11 | zenzelezz | "One of the language enhancements in .NET 2.0âavailable in both VB.NET 2005 and C# 2.0âis support for partial classes. In a nutshell, partial classes mean that your class definition can be split into multiple physical files. Logically, partial classes do not make any difference to the compiler. During compile time, it simply groups all the various partial classes and treats them as a single entity." |
| 15:17.39 | DARKGuy | that's... good? |
| 15:17.46 | Tem|work | ugh |
| 15:17.50 | zenzelezz | DARKGuy: was a response to Tem |
| 15:17.56 | DARKGuy | zenzelezz, oh ^^; |
| 15:18.00 | Tem|work | thanks, zenzelezz |
| 15:18.16 | Tem|work | I hope I never have to work in a MS shop again |
| 15:18.26 | Tem|work | I hate .net so much already |
| 15:19.09 | ckknight | why the hate? jw |
| 15:19.21 | DARKGuy | Ew, M$. Ew, .NET, ew, C# |
| 15:19.33 | cog|away | Tem|work: .net is 4tw if you learn the right way to do everything |
| 15:19.42 | cog|away | C# is actually a really nice language |
| 15:20.05 | Gnarfoz | m$ <- fail |
| 15:20.21 | Gnarfoz | that's older than chuck norris facts. and those are already old. >_> |
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| 15:23.27 | Cairenn | ah bugger, got that stupid error again, means site has died again |
| 15:23.38 | cog|away | i can't even get blizzcon.com to load |
| 15:23.54 | Seerah | re: blizzcon tickets: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8765632317&sid=1 |
| 15:24.11 | Punkie | thx Seerah |
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| 15:24.22 | Seerah | long thread here: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8765782561&sid=1 |
| 15:24.25 | Punkie | I got to the process payment part and it didn't work |
| 15:27.14 | Cairenn | lalala |
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| 15:28.37 | Esamynn | this is SOOO much fun |
| 15:29.21 | Cairenn | lalala |
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| 15:32.02 | alestane | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8765582019&sid=2000 enjoy. |
| 15:33.26 | AckisWork | I hate my job so much |
| 15:33.44 | AckisWork | boss: do this this way because we can't change it! me: ok!!! boss: wtf why did you do it that way!?!?!?!?!?! |
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| 15:34.53 | cog|work | alestane: also http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202271194&sid=1&pageNo=5#87 |
| 15:35.09 | Industrial | wtb bumpage http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=5383588622&postId=53829742918&sid=1#0 |
| 15:35.19 | Industrial | I giefs huggles |
| 15:37.08 | alestane | cog|work: Iriel's document is useful, but it's very much hardcore technical reference material. Although I should probably throw a link to it in there. |
| 15:37.26 | Punkie | hey peeps, does anyone know the car rental age for california? |
| 15:37.30 | Seerah | you do have enough overflow space... ;) |
| 15:37.35 | Punkie | as in how old you need to be to rent a car |
| 15:37.47 | Seerah | isn't it 25 everywhere? Or no? |
| 15:38.20 | Punkie | so not 20 then :P |
| 15:38.21 | cog|work | you can be less than 25 but you have to pay through the teeth |
| 15:38.32 | AckisWork | so has anyone actually got a blizzcon ticket? |
| 15:38.47 | Cairenn | not yet |
| 15:38.53 | cog|work | I had to fight with an insurance company because they were beeing asshats about paying for the extra fees |
| 15:39.25 | AckisWork | I got a rental car at 23 and paid $10 extra a day only, was 5 years ago however |
| 15:39.27 | Punkie | well in the UK car insurance gets reduced after 21 afaik |
| 15:39.43 | cog|work | AckisWork: in california? |
| 15:40.42 | AckisWork | no, AZ |
| 15:40.50 | AckisWork | but I went to nevada as well |
| 15:40.56 | Punkie | well Hertz is a pretty big car rental company i figure, and their website says 25 |
| 15:41.08 | Punkie | so thats a good answer as any i suppose :P |
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| 15:42.41 | laeg | what is the correct term instead of |
| 15:42.50 | Bouvi | In one way I am glad I am over 25... In another... I will be 40 in Oct :( |
| 15:42.56 | laeg | IsStealthIsAltKeyDown() then |
| 15:43.19 | cog|work | /comfort Bouvi |
| 15:43.49 | haste | p3lim|afk: why did you delete your comment? |
| 15:44.16 | Seerah | huh, laeg? |
| 15:46.04 | laeg | Seerah: "IsAltKeyDown() then" works find for alt as a condition |
| 15:46.19 | laeg | but can i add stealth as a second condition? |
| 15:46.23 | laeg | s/find/fine |
| 15:46.33 | cog|work | ... |
| 15:46.38 | Seerah | No. IsAltKeyDown() is an actual function defined by Blizzard |
| 15:47.06 | Punkie | is IsStealth even a func? |
| 15:47.18 | Seerah | don't think so, but could be wrong |
| 15:47.20 | Slakah | It's IsStealthed() |
| 15:47.23 | Arrowmaster | !api IsStealthed() |
| 15:47.24 | Seerah | ah |
| 15:47.24 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'IsStealthed' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/IsStealthed |
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| 15:47.46 | AckisWork | ~ismybossadouche |
| 15:47.47 | Seerah | you need if IsStealthed() and IsAltKeyDown() then blah end |
| 15:47.49 | AckisWork | :( |
| 15:48.03 | laeg | ty ty |
| 15:48.11 | laeg | :D |
| 15:50.01 | AckisWork | I got logged in to the blizz store |
| 15:50.12 | AckisWork | and then error roflz |
| 15:50.42 | Seerah | murloc? |
| 15:50.51 | Seerah | I haven't even seen this fabled murloc |
| 15:51.47 | AckisWork | I can order now |
| 15:51.54 | AckisWork | but ih ave 5 tickets in my cart |
| 15:53.49 | cog|work | i enter ticket details... it does one of: "An error has occurred", tosses me back to the agreement, or tosses me back to ticket info entry screen |
| 15:54.07 | Cairenn | I still haven't been able to even get logged in |
| 15:54.29 | cog|work | took me ~ 5 tries to get logged in |
| 15:54.41 | Cairenn | I hate you |
| 15:54.54 | AckisWork | I just entered CC info |
| 15:55.02 | Cairenn | I've been trying for 2.5 hr now and haven't gotten logged in yet |
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| 15:56.17 | zenzelezz | I don't understand "butterfly swimming"... first of all I've never seen a butterfly try to swim, and even if I did I can't picture them throwing around as much water as these swimmers are doing |
| 15:56.45 | Maldivia | Cairenn: this isn't the time to say, I went to the site, clicked sign in, entered my info, and vupti ? :) |
| 15:56.54 | Cairenn | heh |
| 15:57.05 | Cairenn | if you did, congrats :) |
| 15:57.31 | Maldivia | I did... but I'm not going to blizzcon :| |
| 15:59.12 | AckisWork | ~fail Blizzard |
| 15:59.13 | purl | You suck at everything in life, Blizzard. I hate you because you fail. |
| 15:59.50 | Bouvi | Roller suit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCCrpVB5bFc |
| 16:00.47 | Maldivia | that's just insane |
| 16:01.01 | Bouvi | That is what I said too. Looks fun but I would kill myself |
| 16:05.37 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:05.58 | laeg | Seerah: IsStealthed(1nil) = nostealth? |
| 16:06.01 | AckisWork | they're different |
| 16:06.10 | Cairenn | hrm |
| 16:06.14 | laeg | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/IsStealthed |
| 16:07.02 | Maldivia | Cairenn: they are different |
| 16:07.08 | Cairenn | okay |
| 16:07.42 | Maldivia | Cairenn: currently, there's no way to link blizzard account and wow accounts (except wotlk beta) |
| 16:07.53 | Cairenn | hrm |
| 16:08.09 | Cairenn | so does that mean my wotlk temp beta account is the same as my blizz account? |
| 16:08.28 | Maldivia | yeah would be a blizzard account yes |
| 16:08.32 | AckisWork | yes Cairenn |
| 16:08.50 | laeg | Seerah: nvm |
| 16:08.53 | Maldivia | don't know if temp blizz accounts for wotlk will work with the store though |
| 16:08.54 | nevcairiel | I thought the temporary blizzard accounts for beta where throw-aways just for the beta |
| 16:09.05 | nevcairiel | to test the wow integration |
| 16:09.10 | AckisWork | hah I got my CC info entered finally |
| 16:09.24 | AckisWork | but I can't complete the transaction: There has been an error processing your request. |
| 16:09.31 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: that was my understanding aswell, except you had the oppotunity to link with an actual blizzard account |
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| 16:10.32 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: btw, what's status of BT for wotlk? |
| 16:10.42 | nevcairiel | it works (tm) |
| 16:10.51 | Industrial | OH FFS |
| 16:10.52 | nevcairiel | most of it, anyway |
| 16:11.00 | Seerah | Bouvi: that was awesome :) |
| 16:11.01 | Industrial | i boat back to SW and it drops me as the boat leaves the area |
| 16:11.21 | Bouvi | There are more videos. Wow |
| 16:11.27 | Maldivia | nev: hmm, ok - because when I tried it, I didn't get anything, and couldn't configure, all slash commands gave errors :) |
| 16:11.34 | Duman | grr |
| 16:11.39 | nevcairiel | Maldivia: with the branch? |
| 16:11.41 | Duman | is the blizzard store working yet |
| 16:11.45 | Cairenn | no |
| 16:11.47 | Duman | need to buy tix @ now |
| 16:11.49 | Duman | sigh |
| 16:11.54 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: fetch from branches/Bartender4/wotlk |
| 16:11.59 | AckisWork | omg I had a green Place order now but it failed |
| 16:12.26 | nevcairiel | Hm i dunno, works now, though :) |
| 16:12.36 | nevcairiel | make sure to get the Ace3 wotlk branch too - or grab it with externals |
| 16:12.52 | Maldivia | hmm, might be svn fetching the wrong ace3 branch |
| 16:13.52 | nevcairiel | However i'm planning to rewrite the whole thing to make use of some new features and clean up the design that got kinda broken due to all the changes lately, but all in due time |
| 16:13.54 | nevcairiel | it works for now |
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| 16:15.00 | Maldivia | nev: hmm, looks like it's the ace3 I'm not getting wotlk branches of :) |
| 16:15.16 | nevcairiel | hm, and i thought i changed the externals |
| 16:16.02 | Wikwocket | I wanted to pop in to thank Cairenn and others for holding the "AddOns Gone Crazy" contest and judging it |
| 16:16.06 | Cairenn | :) |
| 16:16.18 | Cairenn | it was a riot |
| 16:16.27 | Wikwocket | I didn't win but it got me moving to release a fun mod, and I had a lot of fun checking out the other mods |
| 16:16.45 | Cairenn | it was bloody hard trying to pick ony 10 |
| 16:16.56 | Cairenn | there were a lot of really really good silly mods made |
| 16:17.24 | Arrowmaster | you should have picked my nonexistant addon i never made |
| 16:17.31 | Cairenn | lol |
| 16:17.43 | Arrowmaster | kites are expensive on ebay =( |
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| 16:18.15 | Wikwocket | I was glad to see that many of the best minigame addons won |
| 16:18.26 | Bouvi | Good choice the AGT addon is classic |
| 16:18.54 | Maldivia | nev: ok, did a fresh co, and seems I got the ace wotlk branches now :) |
| 16:19.04 | nevcairiel | good |
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| 16:20.41 | nevcairiel | i heard there are some issues with the micromenu, but nothing i could reproduce myself yet, well tbh i dont use the thing |
| 16:21.47 | Maldivia | hehe, same here :) |
| 16:21.57 | Maldivia | that's what hotkeys are for |
| 16:22.29 | nevcairiel | though i used my y key to sheath/unsheath weapons |
| 16:22.31 | nevcairiel | now its achievements |
| 16:22.36 | nevcairiel | was confusing me :) |
| 16:22.47 | Maldivia | I assigned achievements to J :) |
| 16:22.58 | AckisWork | s/ticket/creditcard/ ? |
| 16:23.25 | AckisWork | or did you not make it that far? |
| 16:23.51 | Seerah | from Aradek on CS forums: "To be clear, we believe that that account creation and login issues are related to the same issue that is causing ticket purchasing errors. With that being said, we're working as quickly as possible to address this. |
| 16:23.51 | Seerah | Should I hear anything different, I'll let you know." |
| 16:27.00 | Duman | gah |
| 16:27.17 | Duman | I wonder if my "temporary blizzard account" doesn't count as a real one |
| 16:27.27 | Duman | and I can't even create a real one: |
| 16:27.27 | Duman | HTTP Status 404 - /account/creation/tos.xml |
| 16:27.37 | Duman | le SIGH |
| 16:28.39 | Cairenn | oh ugh "this email address is already in use" |
| 16:29.28 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:30.43 | Seerah | yeah, it's been giving that error to lots of people (incl hubby) |
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| 16:33.17 | cog|work | hitting refresh on the error page a bunch of times seems to be working .< |
| 16:33.22 | cog|work | s/./>/ |
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| 16:46.10 | laeg | would you rather be better in arena with your rogue or better in battlegroudns? |
| 16:46.11 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v Malgayne] by ChanServ |
| 16:46.20 | laeg | re: perception versus escape artist |
| 16:46.46 | Seerah|away | just looked at my email about the temp Blizzard account and saw this: "You will need this Blizzard Account name and the password you created to log in to the Wrath of the Lich King beta test. You will not be able to manage Blizzard Entertainment products or make purchases from the Blizzard Store with this temporary Blizzard Account." |
| 16:47.29 | Seerah|away | unfortunately, I'm getting tons of site errors when trying to create a new account |
| 16:47.33 | Seerah|away | try again after shower |
| 16:48.01 | Cairenn | yeah, I had the same prob |
| 16:49.24 | End | I had issues because I forgot to click "Create Temporary Account" at the end :P |
| 16:49.27 | End | I R DUM |
| 16:49.47 | cog|work | Seerah|away: the temporary account would've been linked to a normal blizzard account |
| 16:49.52 | cog|work | they're not the same thing |
| 16:49.54 | cbreak | I didn't create any account |
| 16:50.35 | Wikwocket | so you log in to the wotlk client with your email address? huh |
| 16:50.49 | DARKGuy | I h4x ur emailz |
| 16:50.49 | cbreak | same login name as on life |
| 16:51.04 | Duman | eh? |
| 16:51.07 | cog|work | cbreak: no |
| 16:51.11 | cbreak | yes |
| 16:51.13 | Duman | no |
| 16:51.16 | cbreak | I do it |
| 16:51.16 | cog|work | no |
| 16:51.20 | Wikwocket | no u |
| 16:51.22 | cog|work | then your account is broken |
| 16:51.26 | cbreak | it's not |
| 16:51.29 | Duman | you have to log in w/ an email address (blizzard account) |
| 16:51.43 | cbreak | no, that temporary stuff was an error in the documentation |
| 16:51.52 | cbreak | it was removed after many people complained about it in the forums |
| 16:51.52 | cog|work | cbreak: is your login name the same as the first part of your e-mail address? |
| 16:51.57 | cbreak | no |
| 16:52.03 | Duman | maybe for EU |
| 16:52.06 | Duman | US still uses it |
| 16:52.15 | cbreak | hmm, yes |
| 16:52.16 | cog|work | ^ |
| 16:52.44 | Fisker- | EU should l2TemporaryBlizzardAccount :( |
| 16:52.47 | Fisker- | really want to try it out |
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| 16:53.21 | cbreak | what I want to try out is one of those RSA tokens |
| 16:53.42 | Fisker- | been there done that |
| 16:54.11 | Duman | cog: have you been able to get tix yet? |
| 16:54.12 | cbreak | are they sequential event based or time based? |
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| 16:54.44 | Duman | cbreak: based on an algorithm |
| 16:55.04 | cbreak | I know |
| 16:55.20 | cbreak | but I wonder if the keys are based on time or just a sequencial number |
| 16:55.40 | cbreak | I have a token that just generates a new code every 30 secs |
| 16:55.43 | Maldivia | nev: fade out doesn't work after a reload/logout-in- that's the only thing I've noticed so far |
| 16:55.46 | KarlKFI | if they're like my work rsa key they're time based |
| 16:55.53 | Duman | time based |
| 16:55.59 | cbreak | but I have also seen some that only generate new tokens when one presses a button |
| 16:56.06 | Duman | assuming they are like the securid ones |
| 16:56.10 | KarlKFI | which is also time based |
| 16:56.35 | KarlKFI | the buttons ones just round down to the last interval |
| 16:56.44 | KarlKFI | same as the auto-updat eones |
| 16:56.56 | cog|work | Duman: no |
| 16:57.36 | Duman | cog: :( |
| 16:59.03 | cog|work | definitely time based. if you press it twice within a certain time it'll give you the same code, and if you have multiple accounts linked to the same unit, the same code will work for all of them within a certain timeframe (from what i've heard anyway) |
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| 16:59.55 | cbreak | makes sense. |
| 17:00.28 | cbreak | that also implies that they require constant power supply. |
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| 17:00.40 | cbreak | The token I had ages ago only worked for two or three years |
| 17:00.51 | cbreak | but it was most likely a different model |
| 17:01.18 | Maldivia | grr... my old mount/form macro doesn't work anymore :| |
| 17:01.28 | Fisker- | yeeeees |
| 17:01.44 | Duman | maldivia: in wrath? |
| 17:01.48 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 17:01.50 | nevcairiel | I didnt find a easy way to use the mounts in macros either :| |
| 17:01.56 | Duman | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:01.56 | nevcairiel | you have to call them by index |
| 17:01.59 | cbreak | mine works again since last patch |
| 17:02.05 | nevcairiel | they fixed that? hm |
| 17:02.06 | Duman | you can /cast them |
| 17:02.07 | Kirkburn | Some has created an addon status page for WotLK: http://www.wowwiki.com/WotLK_AddOn_status :) |
| 17:02.08 | Duman | yeah |
| 17:02.29 | Fisker- | http://forums.3drealms.com/ <-lol... |
| 17:02.35 | Fisker- | how do i security? |
| 17:02.36 | Maldivia | well, it's more that it uses a fall through tactic, in case my mount fails, it casts travel form instead |
| 17:02.40 | cbreak | I use /use [nofliable] <blabla>; /castsequence [flyable] ... |
| 17:02.43 | Maldivia | that no longer works :| |
| 17:02.52 | nevcairiel | why would your mount fail? |
| 17:02.54 | ckknight | noflyable |
| 17:02.55 | Fisker- | fliable? |
| 17:02.56 | Maldivia | moving |
| 17:03.00 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 17:03.15 | Maldivia | it was a nice way yo have an all in one macro to speed up |
| 17:04.01 | cbreak | you can still use combat conditional |
| 17:04.15 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: did you see the note I mentioned about fade out not working after a relog? |
| 17:05.28 | Maldivia | cbreak: yeah, but sometimes you just want that extra 40% speed to run around, and don't want to mount up |
| 17:05.49 | cbreak | modifier keys maybe |
| 17:08.05 | Hirsute | I know my mount macro will break with Wrath, but that's just because I call them by bag slots, rather than names. |
| 17:08.27 | Hirsute | <--late to the party |
| 17:09.12 | Gnarfoz | very |
| 17:09.14 | durcyn | [no]flyable stuff is brokenish in the current beta build, but you can now /use or /cast on the mount summon name |
| 17:09.42 | cbreak | you can call mounts by bagslots to learn them :) |
| 17:09.58 | Gnarfoz | you can just /use them, too, for that purpose |
| 17:10.17 | Gnarfoz | anyway. [flyable] doesn't seem to recognize the flying quest, yet |
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| 17:10.29 | Gnarfoz | so it works in outland, but not in northrend |
| 17:10.31 | cog|work | also the mount apis are unprotected so you can use them by index |
| 17:10.42 | cbreak | for me it tries to fly in northrend even though I did not do the quest |
| 17:10.48 | cbreak | in some places |
| 17:10.54 | Shirik|Ecole | rawr |
| 17:10.59 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 17:11.27 | cog|work | is there an achievement for doing the flight quest? |
| 17:11.48 | cbreak | I hope not |
| 17:12.03 | cbreak | adding one for every non-trivial quest seems to devaluate achievements |
| 17:12.20 | Gnarfoz | cbreak: that's what I said, btw |
| 17:12.21 | cog|work | well, if there is you could use the status of the achievement to help with the [flyable] problem :P |
| 17:12.32 | Fisker- | it's also a spell |
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| 17:12.36 | Fisker- | so you could do the same there |
| 17:12.36 | Gnarfoz | ... or they could just fix [flyable] |
| 17:12.51 | nevcairiel | its beta, they will fix it, so shush! |
| 17:12.58 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 17:13.01 | Shirik|Ecole | ^\ |
| 17:13.07 | Duman | lol, the blizzard.com site is completely fubar now |
| 17:13.15 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: indeed |
| 17:13.21 | Fisker- | i just hope they put in some default ui supported stuff for the new ui |
| 17:13.24 | Hirsute | Is there a way to refer to something in your spellbook by tab/position in the book? |
| 17:13.28 | Hirsute | In a macro ^^ |
| 17:13.41 | Duman | (why would you do that?) |
| 17:13.42 | Fisker- | why make a macro if you could just drag an icon out on the hotbar and use it and it would intelligently use the most appropiate mount |
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| 17:14.05 | cbreak | I need a macro to randomize my mounts :) |
| 17:14.17 | Fisker- | That should be in as well |
| 17:14.21 | Hirsute | I have a macro that randomly selects an appropriate mount for me, because of the character limit I use bag-slots to refer to them, rather than the name of the mount. |
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| 17:14.36 | Hirsute | Wrath will break that unless I can do a similar thing with the spellbook |
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| 17:14.46 | Duman | hirsute: going to completely change in wrath |
| 17:14.47 | Fisker- | you should just have an icon you could drag to your bar |
| 17:14.50 | cbreak | mounts aren't in the normal spell book |
| 17:14.58 | Fisker- | and it would appropiately choose a random mount in your selection |
| 17:15.19 | Duman | you should be able to /castrandom mount1, mount2.. no? |
| 17:15.32 | Duman | oh the mount names are too long |
| 17:15.34 | cbreak | I guess it would be easily possible to write an addon that makes that choice Fisker- |
| 17:15.42 | Fisker- | i know |
| 17:15.50 | Fisker- | Still think it should be in the default ui |
| 17:15.51 | Hirsute | Duman: Yes, but you can only fit a couple of mounts in the macro if you use the names, I get around that by using bag slots now. |
| 17:15.55 | Fisker- | don't see a reason why they shouldn't |
| 17:16.05 | Hirsute | But it will break in Wrath, requiring an addon, I think, to accomplish the same thing. |
| 17:16.15 | Gnarfoz | those exist already, so don't worry |
| 17:16.22 | Duman | NOOOOOOO |
| 17:16.24 | Duman | "The site is down for maintenance." |
| 17:16.27 | Duman | http://www.blizzard.com/store/ |
| 17:16.31 | Hirsute | Yeah, just hoped to not have to add yet another addon. |
| 17:16.41 | cbreak | you can use item:<id> |
| 17:16.41 | Shirik|Ecole | Duman: That's pretty win |
| 17:16.46 | cbreak | maybe they add spell:<id> too |
| 17:17.39 | Fisker- | all in favor of a spell/ability/whatever on the mount ui that randomly selects the most appropiate mount? |
| 17:17.39 | Fisker- | :P |
| 17:17.50 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: no, just to spite you |
| 17:17.57 | cbreak | I want it not randomly, I want it in a sequence |
| 17:18.17 | cbreak | so I am guaranteed to show off without duplicate until I get back to my original |
| 17:18.43 | Fisker- | could be done as well |
| 17:18.44 | Shirik|Ecole | Isaac Hayes died |
| 17:18.52 | Fisker- | That's yesterdays news |
| 17:19.16 | Shirik|Ecole | hey |
| 17:19.18 | Fisker- | pretty odd that bernie mac dies, and the day after isaac hayes dies |
| 17:19.19 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't watch the news, ok? |
| 17:21.33 | Kirkburn | Fisker-, what, because they were both black? |
| 17:21.39 | Kirkburn | Sheesh |
| 17:21.54 | End | Ok, I wasn't gonna say that |
| 17:22.09 | Kirkburn | But you were thinking it :) |
| 17:22.18 | End | maybe |
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| 17:22.27 | Kirkburn | It's unfortunate, but there is nothing odd about it. |
| 17:22.38 | Lopeppeppy | Is right wing conspiracy? In Communist Hollywood conspiracy eats you? |
| 17:22.39 | ckknight | it's cause Isaac Hayes is a Scientologist |
| 17:23.16 | Kirkburn | (was) |
| 17:23.26 | ckknight | yea |
| 17:23.27 | ckknight | it's okay |
| 17:23.30 | ckknight | he's with Xenu now. |
| 17:23.40 | kamdis | Yay? |
| 17:25.06 | Fisker- | Kirkburn nah |
| 17:25.11 | Fisker- | 1. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1111948/ |
| 17:25.18 | Fisker- | 2. They're also both scientologists |
| 17:25.23 | Fisker- | 3. They're both pretty young i believe |
| 17:25.29 | Fisker- | well were pretty young |
| 17:25.42 | Kirkburn | Issac Hayes was 65 |
| 17:25.46 | Kirkburn | Bernie Mac was 50 |
| 17:26.27 | Kirkburn | And Bernie Mac was a Scientologist? Since when? |
| 17:26.38 | Fisker- | he wasn't? :o |
| 17:26.45 | AckisWork | still no tickets |
| 17:26.49 | End | I don't think he was |
| 17:26.51 | AckisWork | :( |
| 17:26.56 | Fisker- | aww |
| 17:27.29 | End | the closest I can come up with is some anti-scientology boards saying "RIP, he'll be missed" :P |
| 17:28.50 | Fisker- | i atleast found it interesting to see 2 known people for their comedy to pass away within 2 days |
| 17:29.28 | Fisker- | Not that i'm "OMG GOVERNMENT DID BERNIE MAC", just an odd occurance kinda thing |
| 17:29.53 | Lopeppeppy | Aliens are weeding your geraniums, better run right home now. |
| 17:30.11 | Fisker- | oh nos |
| 17:30.48 | kamdis | Coincidence is just human brains trying to make order of chaos. People die all the time. /shrug |
| 17:30.52 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. No one's window boxes are safe. |
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| 17:40.53 | Fisker- | reported |
| 17:41.28 | Seerah|away | as of 8 minutes ago: "This is top priority right now, and we are still actively looking into this issue. I can tell you that we have confirmed that no tickets have been purchased at this time, so no one should fear that they are going to be sold out while they are refreshing. " |
| 17:41.43 | Lopeppeppy | Yay! |
| 17:41.50 | Lopeppeppy | And boo, that it's borked that badly. |
| 17:41.51 | Thunder_Child | ~fail blizzard |
| 17:41.52 | purl | blizzard: FAIL! |
| 17:42.05 | Fisker- | ~epic fail Thunder_Child |
| 17:42.06 | purl | Thunder_Child, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you Thunder_Child, you are that epic failure. |
| 17:42.32 | Seerah|away | the long thread that I linked ( http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8765782561&sid=1&pageNo=68#1340 ) *not* the sticky is the one getting the updates |
| 17:42.49 | Fisker- | lol |
| 17:42.52 | Fisker- | 70 page thread already |
| 17:42.53 | Lopeppeppy | Hilarious. |
| 17:42.59 | Seerah|away | 71 |
| 17:43.28 | Fisker- | are you trolling me? |
| 17:43.51 | Thunder_Child | ~troll Fisker- |
| 17:43.52 | purl | ACTION hereby declares Fisker- a troll |
| 17:43.54 | Seerah|away | 6 pages of that were from a blue asking how many tickets people were tyring to buy |
| 17:44.19 | Seerah|away | he responded with "o.O I think that's enough to go on" |
| 17:44.22 | Fisker- | i r not troll Thunder_Child ;_; |
| 17:44.31 | Seerah|away | ~troll Fisker- |
| 17:44.32 | purl | ACTION hereby declares Fisker- a troll |
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| 17:44.41 | Fisker- | :( |
| 17:45.00 | Seerah|away | ~comfort Fisker- |
| 17:45.01 | purl | There, there, Fisker-. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 17:45.22 | Thunder_Child | dont feed teh troll Seerah|away |
| 17:45.47 | Fisker- | did they have to make it so you need to use 20 minutes on skilling from 349-350? |
| 17:47.40 | Kirkburn | Because it's *really important* to have 350 and 349? |
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| 17:48.31 | kneeki | If I've created a <Frame> in XML, do I need to do something in the lua to bring it up? I'm getting the error 'Couldn't find region named 'ClassButtonsAnchor1', and yes: I'm loading the XML file before the .lua |
| 17:48.55 | kneeki | Oh, I bet I need to use getglobal() |
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| 17:49.15 | Kirkburn | s/and/and not/ |
| 17:50.57 | kneeki | Ah, yup. :) |
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| 17:53.53 | Lopeppeppy | BRB |
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| 17:57.04 | Duman | gah |
| 17:57.17 | Duman | someone effing re-imaged this machine I was using |
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| 17:59.30 | Lunessa | station |
| 18:00.05 | Shirik | just because |
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| 18:04.55 | Arrowmaster | fucking hate my colleges website |
| 18:05.13 | Arrowmaster | fuckers make me change my login password like every fucking 4 months |
| 18:05.31 | Shirik | be happy you don't have mine, Arrowmaster |
| 18:05.32 | Shirik | seriously |
| 18:05.47 | Arrowmaster | and they seem to store all previous passwords so that you cant use any of them |
| 18:06.17 | Arrowmaster | i swear between breaks i have to try a dozen passwords because i dont know what it was |
| 18:06.22 | Shirik | I just convinced the head of the SE/CE department to purchase Crucible for the school, go me :D |
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| 18:07.43 | kneeki | When using 'getglobal("ClassButtonsAnchor1"):EnableMouse(0)' I get the error: Attempt to index a nil value. Any ideas why? =( |
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| 18:08.04 | Arrowmaster | ClassButtonsAnchor1 doesnt exist |
| 18:08.47 | kneeki | Arrowmaster: But right before that line, I'm calling it numerous times and placing buttons below it. But, when I try to EnableMouse() or Hide(), I get that error |
| 18:08.59 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 18:09.15 | Arrowmaster | then those methods dont exist |
| 18:09.37 | kneeki | O.o |
| 18:09.41 | Kirov | Also, if you're using getglobal("OneSingleString"), there's no reason to use getglobal since OneSingleString exises |
| 18:09.41 | kneeki | ~confused~ |
| 18:10.53 | kneeki | Well, if I remove getglobal(...) and just use ClassButtonsAnchor1 I get the error: Attempt to index global 'ClassButtonsAnchor1' (a nil value)' |
| 18:11.35 | Bouvi | Hows the ticket buying going? Any luck yet? |
| 18:12.11 | AckisWork | Bouvi: site down |
| 18:12.52 | Bouvi | Bummer. I was hoping it had worked out and everyone got it and Cairenn could sleep. |
| 18:13.31 | Bouvi | Toothpicks to prop open the eyes? |
| 18:13.42 | Cairenn | something like that, yeah |
| 18:15.03 | Cairenn | I'm already there |
| 18:15.14 | AckisWork | can we make you cluck like a chicken tho? |
| 18:15.25 | Cairenn | no |
| 18:15.34 | AckisWork | oh pity |
| 18:15.46 | Arrowmaster | somebody needs to buy me a blizcon ticket |
| 18:15.53 | Arrowmaster | and a plane ticket |
| 18:16.15 | AckisWork | Arrowmaster: just sell your body |
| 18:16.19 | Arrowmaster | that or just give me the code for the polar bear mount |
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| 18:16.55 | AckisWork | Arrowmaster: just sign up for the directTV thing? |
| 18:17.04 | Bouvi | Oh I will sell my body. Great idea. Lets see the going rate for my body, get a job every hour... OK I will have the money in 10 years. |
| 18:17.11 | Arrowmaster | does that get you a bear mount? |
| 18:17.18 | AckisWork | yes |
| 18:17.24 | Arrowmaster | srsly? |
| 18:17.29 | AckisWork | yes |
| 18:17.36 | Arrowmaster | link to details? |
| 18:17.43 | AckisWork | there were plenty of QQs on the forums about it |
| 18:17.48 | AckisWork | lol links won't work right now :( |
| 18:17.55 | Lunessa | I'd sell my body for the cash, but I couldn't handle all the returns. |
| 18:17.58 | Kirov | kneeki - then something in your code is causing an issue and that value is being niled out |
| 18:18.00 | Cralor` | http://www.blizzard.com/blizzcon/dtv/ |
| 18:18.19 | kneeki | Kirov: Hmmm. That's really weird. :( |
| 18:18.20 | Cralor` | i can access blizzard.com just fine |
| 18:18.58 | Bouvi | Now I wish I had DirecTV |
| 18:19.06 | kneeki | Kirov: Even tried putting hidden="false" in the <Frame> tag. Same result |
| 18:19.06 | Cralor` | lol same |
| 18:19.25 | Arrowmaster | i wonder how much its going to cost |
| 18:19.27 | Kirov | kneeki - can you pastey your code? (see the channel topic) |
| 18:19.34 | kneeki | Kirov: Doing that now |
| 18:19.47 | Arrowmaster | because ill fucking sign up for it then cancel it right away |
| 18:19.59 | Arrowmaster | or is there a contract? |
| 18:20.12 | Bouvi | I am sure there will be a contract of at least a year |
| 18:20.14 | kneeki | Kirov: http://www.wowi.pastey.net/93521 |
| 18:20.51 | kneeki | .... oh damnit |
| 18:20.52 | Arrowmaster | see that would make just purchasing a ticket and having somebody else pickup the goodie bag cheaper |
| 18:20.58 | kneeki | I think virtual="true" is messing me up |
| 18:21.07 | Arrowmaster | kneeki: it is |
| 18:21.08 | foxlit | (hidden="false" has no effect - frames are shown by default) |
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| 18:21.24 | kneeki | foxlit: Oh, thanks :) |
| 18:21.39 | kneeki | Yup! |
| 18:21.54 | kneeki | Virtual: Effect: If true element will not created, but used as template for other elements. Default false |
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| 18:21.56 | kneeki | =( |
| 18:22.00 | Bouvi | Yeah but I would not pay $100 for a mount |
| 18:22.10 | kneeki | That's what I get for copying my other code, heh. |
| 18:22.52 | Arrowmaster | its cheaper than a TCG mount |
| 18:23.09 | Anaral | Wow, no one wants manna biscuits on the beta realm. |
| 18:23.25 | AckisWork | Anaral: they just want mage portals lol |
| 18:23.36 | jaxdahl2 | how much is the ethereal trader going for? |
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| 18:23.58 | AckisWork | jaxdahl2: around 200ish, some a bit more, some a bit less |
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| 18:24.13 | jaxdahl2 | i think that is the most practical TCG item |
| 18:24.18 | Anaral | AckisWork: Bah! I say! |
| 18:24.22 | jaxdahl2 | since you can vendor stuff to it |
| 18:24.30 | kneeki | Dang! The self cast attribute for created buttons still does not work. :( |
| 18:24.42 | Arrowmaster | they are making it so not all vendors will purchase items |
| 18:24.46 | kneeki | And the FeedbackUI is owning my Tooltips. Heh |
| 18:24.48 | Arrowmaster | i bet thats one that gets changed |
| 18:24.49 | jaxdahl2 | Arrowmaster, source? |
| 18:24.52 | AckisWork | jaxdahl2: lol you can? |
| 18:25.01 | Lunessa | Epic Lawls - http://www.gucomics.com/comic/?cdate=20080811 |
| 18:25.02 | Arrowmaster | i saw it somewhere |
| 18:27.11 | AckisWork | omg something that's NOT a murloc on the blizz page hahah |
| 18:27.31 | jaxdahl2 | nvm, i guess you can't sell to it |
| 18:27.33 | AckisWork | Lunessa: lol did that actually happen? |
| 18:27.47 | Lunessa | Yes, read the links. |
| 18:30.49 | AckisWork | damn that makes me want to go back to play aoc |
| 18:33.39 | Lopeppeppy | "If I had a murloc.... pet!" |
| 18:34.30 | jaxdahl2 | UNIT_THREAT_LIST_UPDATE <-- any idea how often this gets triggered? |
| 18:35.56 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 18:36.01 | Fisker- | i'm guessing failcast will be failcast again |
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| 18:38.25 | Cairenn | rofl, love this that mikma just linked to me: http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/html_earrings.jpg |
| 18:39.47 | MentalPower | nice |
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| 18:40.25 | MentalPower | jaxdahl2: I believe that it starts out slowly and build up as you climb the threat list for a specific mob |
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| 18:40.37 | Gnarfoz | Cairenn: megaawesome. |
| 18:40.45 | Lopeppeppy | Do want. Bigtime |
| 18:40.55 | Gnarfoz | yeah. I've got several people who'd dig those |
| 18:40.55 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
| 18:41.22 | Anaral | What's the call for taxis, is it TAXI or is there more to it. |
| 18:41.25 | foxlit | Hm, so panicked saved variable dumps do exist |
| 18:41.48 | MentalPower | Anaral: usually waving frantically works too |
| 18:41.51 | jaxdahl2 | MentalPower, not talking about UNIT_THREAT_SITUATION_UPDATE if that wasn't clear.. i'll have to check it out when i get home |
| 18:41.55 | Gnarfoz | or whistling loudly, if you're able |
| 18:42.01 | Anaral | MentalPower: Harr! |
| 18:42.11 | Cairenn | I'd wear 'em |
| 18:42.14 | foxlit | Listen to my story: I retrieve SVs at ADDON_LOADED, placing them in a local, and replacing the global variable with nil. On PLAYER_LOGOUT, I place the table back into the global variable that gets saved. |
| 18:42.28 | MentalPower | gatherer does that too |
| 18:42.41 | foxlit | Now I've got 2 "zomg, it ate my saved variables when I disconnected from the server" bug reports |
| 18:42.43 | Gnarfoz | can anyone using linux and LVM riddle me this: does it affect performance directly? |
| 18:44.03 | MentalPower | http://www.blizzard.com/us/maintenance.htm?id=1100000202 |
| 18:44.05 | MentalPower | ouch |
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| 18:53.23 | Anaral | Tekkub: |
| 18:53.32 | Anaral | bah, scratch that |
| 18:53.50 | Tekkub | mut more mork? |
| 18:53.50 | Fisker- | wtf |
| 18:53.51 | Fisker- | http://eu.blizzard.com/blizzcast/_images/episode4/s17.jpg |
| 18:53.55 | Fisker- | flower encryption? |
| 18:53.55 | Tekkub | s/m/w/ |
| 18:55.04 | Industrial | YOUR MOTHER |
| 18:55.08 | Industrial | mr test server |
| 18:55.23 | Industrial | again it dumps me in the water while the boat leaves the zone |
| 18:57.08 | Lopeppeppy | Glyph of the Penguin!!! |
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| 18:58.30 | Seerah | yeah, I want one, peppy |
| 18:59.17 | Lopeppeppy | That and those earrings make a happy Peppy. |
| 19:00.10 | cog|work | argh@redirectors |
| 19:00.19 | Fisker- | cog|work my redirector |
| 19:01.11 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: I thought those were pretty funny, but I'll admit I thought other thoughts too... |
| 19:01.28 | Neo|Home | Tekkub: could you add Button Bin (Unreleased) linking to http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14542.0 on the LDB display addons wiki page? |
| 19:01.49 | Tekkub | it's a wiki... |
| 19:02.34 | Anaral | LOl |
| 19:02.43 | Fisker- | 1-0 |
| 19:02.51 | Fisker- | good job Tekkub |
| 19:03.05 | NightHawkTheSane | this is.. vaguely disturbing.. http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/the_mashup_everyones_been_waiting_for |
| 19:03.06 | Fisker- | You won the 2008 Nobel price for trolling :D |
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| 19:04.28 | Neo|Home | Tekkub: since all edits were by you I didn't know that it was an open wiki |
| 19:04.31 | Neo|Home | rather I didn't check |
| 19:04.49 | Tekkub | :P |
| 19:05.23 | Neo|Home | do you need to log in to edit I presume? |
| 19:05.56 | Gnarfoz | dude click the edit button and see what happens! :p |
| 19:06.12 | Neo|Home | maybe I'm blind but I don't see an edit button |
| 19:06.29 | Bouvi | I had to sign up for it |
| 19:06.36 | Gnarfoz | well, there you go :p |
| 19:07.15 | foxlit | I can't help but feel that could've been better edited |
| 19:08.33 | Anaral | Tekkub: I take it that Kennel for WotLK doesn't have any options at the moment, does it? |
| 19:08.51 | Tekkub | no, and I don't have any plans to add any |
| 19:09.01 | Neo|Home | there |
| 19:11.28 | Neo|Home | so I wish there was a way to have multiple categories for an addon |
| 19:11.43 | Neo|Home | or at least make it possible to tag it for both wotlk and 2.4 for when they work on both |
| 19:12.33 | Anaral | Well CargExplorer is a good idea. Hope the author gets it working. ATM it says I know 100% of the zone, and I clearly don't. |
| 19:12.54 | Lunessa | The thing I like most about Tekkub is his bluntness. "no, and I don't have any plans to add any." <3 |
| 19:13.31 | Tekkub | :P |
| 19:13.42 | Tekkub | why does it need options at all? |
| 19:14.04 | End | well, how else are you going to introduce feature creep? |
| 19:14.05 | Anaral | It doesn't, other than maybe an on/off toggle. |
| 19:14.05 | Lunessa | My point. And you're never shy about saying stuff like that. |
| 19:14.10 | Tekkub | PvP? fuck rogues they can turn the addon off |
| 19:15.45 | Tekkub | End, you want feature creep? use Minipet |
| 19:15.50 | Tekkub | it's only 10k LoC |
| 19:16.04 | schnoggo | waaaaay OT, but I have share with peeps with working brain cells: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt1Yo610lG0 Stay in school, kids! |
| 19:16.06 | End | I did try to use Minipet once, but it seemed broken |
| 19:16.06 | Tekkub | old kennel was like 120, new is like 70 |
| 19:16.14 | End | (didn't know about kennel though) |
| 19:16.37 | Neo|Home | what is kennel? |
| 19:16.44 | Neo|Home | other than being pet related |
| 19:16.52 | Neo|Home | thing that keeps a pet out? |
| 19:17.10 | Tekkub | in wrath, yes |
| 19:17.14 | Bouvi | Is there a way to tell how many pets are in your pet tab? Mounts too? To do a randomizer for pulling them out. |
| 19:17.19 | ccox | Tekkub must be an engineer IRL |
| 19:17.21 | Tekkub | before it just kept a random one in your bag for you |
| 19:17.34 | ckknight | ccox: Tekkub's a cub IRL |
| 19:17.36 | End | Bouvi: GetNumCompanions()? |
| 19:17.48 | Bouvi | End: Thanks |
| 19:18.01 | End | you pass it "CRITTER" or "MOUNT" |
| 19:18.10 | End | it's in the 3.0 consolidated changes thread |
| 19:18.18 | jaxdahl2 | yea i wrote a randomizer macro the other day |
| 19:18.23 | jaxdahl2 | don't have it handy though |
| 19:18.47 | cog|work | there's a thread on the beta forums about mount macros |
| 19:18.50 | End | for mounts, it could be tricky though :P |
| 19:18.56 | cog|work | just change it to critter |
| 19:19.04 | End | I mean, I can summon my level 40...er 30 mount :P |
| 19:19.06 | jaxdahl2 | it does get trickier with mounts with flyable/noflyable |
| 19:19.10 | jaxdahl2 | but it is doable |
| 19:19.13 | End | yeah, that too |
| 19:19.23 | Bouvi | Ahhh see I forgot about all that. |
| 19:19.30 | Bouvi | I will check it all out. |
| 19:19.32 | Bouvi | Thanks |
| 19:19.46 | Neo|Home | I remember back when Nefarian used to target companion pets for polymorph and we made sure before pull that everyone had theirs out |
| 19:19.54 | End | haha |
| 19:20.15 | jaxdahl2 | oh, looks like /cast is working correctly now though |
| 19:20.20 | Fisker- | err? |
| 19:20.26 | Fisker- | Don't you mean mages Neo|Home? |
| 19:20.31 | Fisker- | btw |
| 19:20.32 | jaxdahl2 | if you just want to use a fixed list of companion/mounts |
| 19:20.41 | Fisker- | <3 Chromaggus targetting totems |
| 19:20.47 | Neo|Home | Fisker-: whatever. nef mage call |
| 19:20.52 | AckisWork | !api GetNumCompanions |
| 19:20.53 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'GetNumCompanions'. |
| 19:20.53 | Fisker- | that was the ONLY notable horde advantage in raiding until TBC |
| 19:20.59 | AckisWork | ~api GetNumCompanions |
| 19:21.00 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetNumCompanions |
| 19:21.01 | jaxdahl2 | AckisWork, it's in the wiki |
| 19:21.05 | jaxdahl2 | there you go |
| 19:21.06 | AckisWork | (I know I added it) |
| 19:21.21 | End | ah yes, cool, /cast does work now |
| 19:22.17 | Bouvi | That is perfect. Thanks |
| 19:24.22 | foxlit | keeper, parent = CreateFrame("Frame"), frame:GetParent(); keeper:Hide(); frame:SetParent(keeper); frame:SetParent(parent); frame:IsVisible() == 0 and frame:IsShown() == 1 |
| 19:24.24 | foxlit | why? |
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| 19:25.49 | foxlit | That appears to be a bug :( |
| 19:27.28 | Maldivia | what is frame? |
| 19:27.46 | foxlit | ShapeshiftBarFrame in this particular case |
| 19:28.10 | foxlit | parent is MainMenuBar, which is visible |
| 19:28.16 | clad|away | beta authentication is sad =/ |
| 19:28.38 | Fisker- | _ |
| 19:28.39 | Fisker- | ? |
| 19:29.07 | clad|away | I can't get onto the EU beta |
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| 19:29.19 | End | beta does that :( |
| 19:29.25 | Neo|Home | so anyone have any idea why MouseIsOver(frame) doesn't work (returns nil, always) when the Blizz interface options screen is open? |
| 19:29.30 | foxlit | Yes |
| 19:29.32 | foxlit | That's intended |
| 19:29.46 | foxlit | It specifically does that in its definition |
| 19:29.49 | Neo|Home | what is.. the value/point of that? |
| 19:30.31 | Neo|Home | I wonder.. I should be able to utilize OnEnter/OnLeave for this purpose too, granted they work in that situation |
| 19:30.31 | foxlit | It blocks you from interacting with some of the default UI while you're configuring it |
| 19:30.48 | Maldivia | foxlit: so, the fact the a frame changes parent to a non-visible and then back to a visible, leave the frames visibility to false? |
| 19:30.50 | foxlit | You can also just steal the implementation code for MouseIsOver and implement it without the check |
| 19:31.01 | foxlit | Maldivia: that's what appears to happen, yes |
| 19:31.18 | Neo|Home | I could I suppose (I use it for drop and dragging the buttons to order them in Button Bin) |
| 19:31.18 | foxlit | Although both the frame in question and all of its parents think they're shown at the end of that. |
| 19:31.40 | Neo|Home | initially I had the toggle in the config UI but that wasn't very good :P |
| 19:32.10 | Maldivia | foxlit: but keeper is probably not visible |
| 19:32.14 | Fisker- | omg |
| 19:32.17 | Fisker- | please halp |
| 19:32.28 | Fisker- | "I can't upgrade my account to expansion" |
| 19:32.33 | Fisker- | well have you changed password? |
| 19:32.35 | Fisker- | "Yeah" |
| 19:32.38 | Fisker- | Then use your old one |
| 19:32.38 | foxlit | Maldivia: true; keeper also isn't a parent of anything at the end of that test case :) |
| 19:32.46 | Fisker- | "It still doesn't work" |
| 19:32.53 | Fisker- | Just how many times have you changed password? |
| 19:32.56 | Fisker- | "many times" |
| 19:32.57 | Fisker- | :/ |
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| 19:36.50 | Maldivia | ok, this dual wtf dir is starting to annoy me... |
| 19:39.00 | Bouvi | Maldivia: That is the truth!! |
| 19:39.18 | Neo|Home | so is it true in wotlk that any "OnClick" etc always has "this" (the frame) as the first parameter and any arg1 etc as additional parameters? |
| 19:39.30 | Neo|Home | and that is is new in WotLK? |
| 19:40.36 | foxlit | yes (... but), no. |
| 19:40.54 | Neo|Home | so it works in pre-wotlk also? |
| 19:40.58 | foxlit | Yes |
| 19:40.59 | ckknight | yes, it works pre-wotlk |
| 19:41.09 | Neo|Home | for all calls? Ok, guess I'll make sur eto use that method then |
| 19:41.12 | foxlit | The change to self/event closures was way early |
| 19:41.17 | ckknight | all frames now use that |
| 19:41.18 | End | yes, all calls |
| 19:41.18 | Neo|Home | no reason to write code that will be deprecated |
| 19:41.23 | ckknight | many Blizzard functions are being changed to be that way |
| 19:41.46 | Neo|Home | I always found the whole "arg1" etc to be .. odd |
| 19:41.56 | End | yeah, good indication they really do intend to remove the globals, even though they haven't quite yet |
| 19:42.15 | Neo|Home | "hmm where did this magical parameter come from?" |
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| 19:43.27 | foxlit | and I can't reparent in combat |
| 19:43.32 | foxlit | meep :( |
| 19:43.56 | Neo|Home | at all or using secure frames? |
| 19:44.04 | foxlit | It's secure in this question |
| 19:44.21 | foxlit | It's also entirely fair, just painful :( |
| 19:47.13 | kd3 | rofl. blizzcast ep 4 is out in europe, but not in the US |
| 19:47.33 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm not really surprised |
| 19:56.18 | kneeki | Using <Backdrop> How do I go about setting a color overlay? Say i want the background from a see through grey to a see through red. What tags would I use for that? |
| 19:57.51 | kneeki | I guess this:SetBackdropColor() would work... |
| 19:58.20 | foxlit | self, please |
| 19:58.45 | foxlit | But, really, this is when you get to use the joys of UI.xsd |
| 19:58.53 | foxlit | <xs:element name="Color" type="ColorType"/> |
| 19:59.09 | kneeki | UI.xsd? |
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| 19:59.19 | foxlit | Meaning you can do <Backdrop ...><Color r="1" g="0" b="0" a="0.5" /></Backdrop> to save yourself the function call |
| 19:59.51 | kneeki | Ah! Well, that's what I wanted to find. :) |
| 20:00.02 | foxlit | It's in the FrameXML directory extracted by the addon kit, and defines the schema WoW's XML uses. |
| 20:00.03 | kneeki | Couldn't find it in Wowwiki though |
| 20:00.12 | kneeki | Oh nice! |
| 20:00.30 | foxlit | If you find yourself a nice editor, it can also hint you based on that file |
| 20:00.49 | kneeki | Using Notepad++ atm |
| 20:01.34 | ScytheBlade1 | kneeki: you can also view the UI.xsd at wowcompares.com |
| 20:02.11 | kneeki | ! |
| 20:02.15 | kneeki | Wow, that's a handy site! |
| 20:02.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Very handy site |
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| 20:05.15 | Neo|Home | As Seen In Blizzard Code: "-- Hack to fix a symptom not the real issue" |
| 20:05.57 | Neo|Home | I have to wonder - why do they do "return 1" and "return nil" in the code vs true/false? |
| 20:06.07 | foxlit | ButtonFacade or CyCircled |
| 20:06.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Neo|Home: that's mostly how lua is done |
| 20:06.38 | foxlit | A long, long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, there were no booleans |
| 20:07.30 | foxlit | (on an odder level, nil doesn't take space to store in saved vars :)) |
| 20:08.05 | Neo|Home | yeah I use nil to avoid saving stuff/keeping it in memory |
| 20:08.18 | Neo|Home | still why "return nil"? Just don't return anything :P |
| 20:08.26 | Neo|Home | unless you need to break the flow. heh |
| 20:08.37 | krka | for clarity |
| 20:08.44 | foxlit | It makes explicit the fact that you're expecting a return elsewhere |
| 20:08.48 | krka | readability is important, you know |
| 20:08.50 | krka | this isn't perl |
| 20:09.05 | foxlit | Also, "return nil;" != "return;" |
| 20:09.18 | krka | indeed |
| 20:09.31 | krka | though it's rare to depend on the number of return values |
| 20:09.37 | Neo|Home | I prefer to use return <condition> vs if <condition> then return true else return false/nil end |
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| 20:10.02 | Neo|Home | unless condition is too long and hairy to neatly fit on a line |
| 20:10.03 | foxlit | You risk returning weirder stuff with that syntax |
| 20:10.48 | krka | if condition is complex, i prefer to split it up into several cases and document it slightly |
| 20:10.49 | Neo|Home | true I suppose. (currently) more used to java where it'll always be a boolean |
| 20:14.40 | Industrial | ButtonBin? |
| 20:14.50 | Industrial | Neo|Home: add it if you need it yourself |
| 20:14.52 | Industrial | :P |
| 20:15.13 | Neo|Home | I am adding it |
| 20:15.17 | Neo|Home | it's a fair request |
| 20:15.31 | Neo|Home | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14542.0 |
| 20:15.33 | foxlit | Thing is, I'm staring at this page, and it's a list of API calls :( |
| 20:15.52 | foxlit | "here, you have to use some of that. Good luck figuring out what without reading our code" |
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| 20:21.20 | Neo|Home | I can't complain. I've been needing to write a howto/usage guide for Magic Marker for a long time now |
| 20:21.25 | Neo|Home | it just isn't something I enjoy doing |
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| 20:24.43 | Lunessa | *heqaddesk* http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8765640061&sid=1 |
| 20:24.51 | durcyn | heqad. |
| 20:25.41 | cog|work | indeqed |
| 20:26.47 | ccox | wow, forums needs a LART |
| 20:27.16 | kamdis | Lunessa, you HELPED him? Why oh why? |
| 20:27.39 | Lunessa | Because it gave me a chance to call him a rude poopy-head. |
| 20:28.03 | kamdis | which you did quite eloquently |
| 20:28.49 | Lunessa | I like calling people rude poopy-heads. It shoudl be an art form. |
| 20:29.54 | Lunessa | Hell, it should be an Olympic Sport. |
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| 20:33.43 | Thunder_Child | hey, rude poop-head |
| 20:35.37 | Industrial | Thunder_Child: WHAT |
| 20:36.00 | Thunder_Child | i was talking to Lunessa, Industrial, but thanks for asking |
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| 20:36.20 | Weye1 | . |
| 20:36.27 | End | dot? |
| 20:36.29 | End | ... |
| 20:36.31 | End | dot dot dot? |
| 20:36.38 | Thunder_Child | elipses (sp?) |
| 20:36.38 | batbot | Thunder_Child, eclipses, elapses, ellipses. |
| 20:36.45 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* |
| 20:36.51 | Weye1 | o_O a mistell actually |
| 20:36.56 | Industrial | . |
| 20:37.00 | End | .. |
| 20:37.04 | Industrial | ... |
| 20:37.05 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: I'm totally a rude poopy head. :P |
| 20:37.12 | End | No |
| 20:37.17 | End | you're a nice poopy head |
| 20:37.19 | Industrial | Lunessa: HI POOPHEAD HAHAHA |
| 20:37.21 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa i said poop head actually |
| 20:38.08 | Lunessa | Yes, yes you did. Go forth and spread the word my disciples; Lunessa is a rude poophead and won't help you with ventrillo! |
| 20:38.26 | Thunder_Child | you should not NEEd help with vent |
| 20:38.29 | Thunder_Child | tiss easy |
| 20:38.33 | Thunder_Child | 'tis* |
| 20:38.59 | Thunder_Child | but will you help with mysql? :P |
| 20:39.08 | End | you need help with your spelling |
| 20:39.10 | End | :P |
| 20:39.20 | Thunder_Child | this we already know end |
| 20:39.24 | Lunessa | TC.... I'm working on it. |
| 20:39.30 | End | well, I like pointing out the obvious |
| 20:39.56 | Thunder_Child | ~whip Lunessa |
| 20:39.57 | purl | ACTION takes Lunessa outside to be thoroughly whipped by thunder_child |
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| 20:40.13 | Thunder_Child | ~obvious End |
| 20:40.17 | Lunessa | ... kinky. |
| 20:40.17 | Thunder_Child | boo |
| 20:40.42 | Thunder_Child | ok, i'm off to go be a bigger nerd than i usually am |
| 20:44.17 | Maldivia | trade links are weird... |
| 20:45.13 | Tem|work | trade links are awesome! |
| 20:45.18 | Maldivia | they are... |
| 20:45.20 | Tem|work | Maldivia: do you realize what they do? |
| 20:45.33 | Maldivia | I do, a base64 encoded list of all your trade skills |
| 20:45.47 | Maldivia | or well, not base64 in a traditional sense, but 64 chars |
| 20:45.58 | Tem|work | :) |
| 20:46.49 | Maldivia | anyone found the mapping from the encoded string to the actual skills? |
| 20:52.05 | Seerah | This just in 2 minutes ago! http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8765782561&sid=1&pageNo=124#2463 |
| 20:52.39 | Maldivia | Tem: what I don't understand is why the encoded string has to be so long, in theory 2 chars should be enough to reference it all by index (unless they add more than 4k patterns to a profession) |
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| 20:56.33 | Bouvi | Later all |
| 20:59.06 | foxlit | btndata.Cooldown = btndata.Cooldown or _G[button:GetName().."Cooldown"] |
| 20:59.06 | Saiket | Any luck with the BlizzCon tickets so far? |
| 20:59.17 | foxlit | and not once did they consider I may want anonymous buttons :( |
| 20:59.44 | Duman | gah |
| 20:59.54 | Duman | stupid blizzard account I use for beta doesn't work |
| 21:00.00 | Duman | and it's taking forever to create a new one |
| 21:00.08 | Duman | AND I just got the worst captcha in the world |
| 21:00.15 | Duman | green text on a teal background = wtffff |
| 21:01.05 | Duman | "Waiting for www.blizzard.com..." |
| 21:02.18 | Saiket | I finally got an account made, and now the store page won't show the little shopping card box. |
| 21:04.46 | Duman | AWEHGAHEjsdf |
| 21:04.54 | Duman | keeps reverting me to step 1 of acct creation! |
| 21:05.26 | Neo|Home | Blizzard needs to L2MakeWebsites |
| 21:05.29 | Duman | (ToU agreement) |
| 21:05.38 | Neo|Home | you'd think they would know how to make a scalable website by now |
| 21:05.38 | Duman | more like L2AddCapacity ;) |
| 21:05.39 | Maldivia | Tem: forget what I said, I should just go to bed instead :) |
| 21:09.00 | Duman | This e-mail address is already in use. |
| 21:09.02 | Duman | WTF? |
| 21:09.07 | Duman | lies |
| 21:09.11 | Maldivia | temp account email? |
| 21:09.17 | Duman | nope |
| 21:09.25 | Duman | unless I created a blizz account and forgot |
| 21:09.32 | Duman | err, tries |
| 21:09.46 | Saiket | It was giving me that error when it was broken before. |
| 21:10.07 | Duman | This e-mail/name combination doesn't exist. |
| 21:10.09 | Duman | ... wtf |
| 21:10.15 | Duman | ~fail Blizzard |
| 21:10.15 | purl | Blizzard: FAIL! |
| 21:11.40 | Duman | man wtf |
| 21:15.02 | Duman | uhm |
| 21:15.04 | Duman | This e-mail address is already in use. |
| 21:15.05 | Duman | again |
| 21:15.08 | Duman | 100% impossible |
| 21:15.10 | Duman | I just created it |
| 21:15.12 | Duman | wtf. |
| 21:15.59 | Duman | wait |
| 21:16.03 | Duman | N + 3509 Aug 11 Blizzard Entertainme ( 1.5K) Blizzard Account Email Verification - Action Required |
| 21:16.04 | Duman | LOL |
| 21:16.17 | Duman | man... wtf... |
| 21:16.34 | Saiket | An error has occurred. |
| 21:16.49 | Duman | heh |
| 21:17.01 | Maldivia | Wee, I can make trade links now, and determine what skills it links :) |
| 21:17.32 | Duman | btw, did item ids change a little? they seem to append your level |
| 21:17.41 | Duman | (so closetgnome freaked out when I leveled) |
| 21:17.53 | Duman | woot E-mail Verification Complete! |
| 21:18.13 | Maldivia | Duman: yeah, some items now change with your level and skills |
| 21:18.20 | Maldivia | probaby the reason for it |
| 21:18.28 | Duman | ahh, fair enough |
| 21:18.38 | Duman | Account Name / E-mail Address: |
| 21:18.38 | Duman | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:18.40 | Duman | wtf? haha |
| 21:20.40 | Maldivia | Duman: or well, the level thing is at least the reaons I've deducted, might be for other reasons |
| 21:22.55 | Duman | gah, store is fubar again, sigh |
| 21:22.56 | Duman | Error loading stylesheet: A network error occured loading an XSLT stylesheet: |
| 21:23.49 | Saiket | http://www.blizzard.com/store/_layout/_output.xml |
| 21:24.01 | Duman | yes, taht :) |
| 21:24.13 | Duman | oh, differet one this time |
| 21:24.14 | Duman | Error loading stylesheet: Parsing an XSLT stylesheet failed. |
| 21:24.16 | Saiket | Heheh, the error's gonna resolve and I'll have 50 tickets. :P |
| 21:24.21 | Duman | LOL! |
| 21:25.36 | Seerah | As of 20 mins ago: " We've informed the appropriate parties of the ongoing issues you've brought to our attention. We hope to hear back shortly. " |
| 21:25.45 | Duman | heh |
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| 21:27.16 | Duman | gah |
| 21:29.22 | Duman | well, I have tickets in my cart |
| 21:29.25 | Duman | but I can't check out |
| 21:29.26 | Duman | lol |
| 21:29.31 | Duman | *cry* |
| 21:29.35 | Duman | I should just buy 5 |
| 21:34.33 | Seerah | keep in mind that the FAQ said that when picking up your tickets/checking in, you need to have the credit card on you that they were purchased with |
| 21:34.48 | Seerah | (if anyone was thinking of buying some for other people) |
| 21:35.03 | ccox | could be worse - you could be trying to get ComicCon hotel rooms :-P |
| 21:35.20 | Seerah | heh |
| 21:36.45 | Duman | hah. |
| 21:36.48 | Duman | now I get a murloc |
| 21:36.48 | Duman | An error has occurred. |
| 21:37.36 | ccox | Let's see, what do I need more: a convention with thousands of underaged gamers, or a visit to Bliz headquarters with a baseball bat? Hmmm.... |
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| 21:39.49 | kneeki | underaged gamers? |
| 21:39.57 | kneeki | Sorry, triggered my pedobear alarm |
| 21:41.11 | ccox | that was a negative, not a positive mention of underaged gamers |
| 21:41.12 | Neo|Home | Maldivia: wait, what, example of items that change with level/skills? |
| 21:41.28 | Maldivia | Neo: DK flying mount |
| 21:41.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Sweet, WSG #3652 |
| 21:42.20 | Duman | yeah, it speeds up as you level |
| 21:42.54 | jaxdahl2 | well, its speed depends on your riding skill |
| 21:42.58 | AckisWork | anyone able to buy their tickets? |
| 21:43.00 | jaxdahl2 | not your level |
| 21:44.07 | Duman | ackis: not yet |
| 21:45.30 | Neo|Home | any normal items , like items you equip? |
| 21:47.47 | Duman | not that I've seen yet |
| 21:48.16 | Neo|Home | isn't the DK flying mount just an item that teaches a "mount companion"? |
| 21:48.49 | kd3 | ya |
| 21:48.54 | nevcairiel | all mounts are like that now |
| 21:49.01 | Neo|Home | right |
| 21:49.09 | Neo|Home | so I'm curious why it needs to hav esome "special" handling |
| 21:49.16 | Neo|Home | since it's not actually going to be an item that scales... |
| 21:49.23 | Neo|Home | just an item that teaches a skill that scales |
| 21:49.24 | kd3 | it's going to be a spell that scales |
| 21:49.46 | Arrowmaster | has anybody tried using a non epic flying mount on beta when they have epic flying skill? |
| 21:50.05 | Neo|Home | kd3: exactly my point yess |
| 21:50.17 | Neo|Home | so why would it have a different "level appended" item id? :P |
| 21:51.06 | Duman | easier to change that sort of things new (major rev) in case they want to add items that scale w/ level, later :) |
| 21:51.44 | Duman | will also allow things like RatingsBuster to display the rating for the person that is wearing the item, I guess |
| 21:53.21 | Duman | man, plz2makesiteworking, blizzard |
| 21:53.24 | Duman | I need my tickets |
| 21:54.43 | Saiket | I wish they could have just rescheduled the ticket sales... |
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| 21:55.57 | Pneumatus | Arrowmaster: just tried my 60% mount and its fine |
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| 21:56.55 | Tekkub | http://citizenx.cx/img/rock_paper_scissors_25_outcomes.jpg |
| 21:57.17 | cladhaire | sorry about that |
| 21:59.08 | Duman | tek: haha |
| 22:00.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub: I see your 25 outcomes and raise you 101.. http://www.umop.com/rps101.htm |
| 22:01.15 | Duman | LOL |
| 22:02.00 | Duman | GAH Blizzard "The site is down for maintenance." |
| 22:05.28 | Neo|Home | topsub: for when rock, paper and scissors aren't enough? |
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| 22:07.48 | selckin | there is no way paper beats rock anyway |
| 22:08.10 | kd3 | sigh |
| 22:08.17 | kd3 | damn it, blizz store. stop being down for maint |
| 22:09.10 | Duman | kd3: no kidding |
| 22:09.13 | Duman | wtb tix! |
| 22:11.40 | AckisWork | omg I got a ticket! |
| 22:11.46 | AckisWork | photoradar ticket that is :( |
| 22:12.16 | ccox | Sounds like it would be faster to drive to Blizz offices than to use their ticket site |
| 22:12.23 | ccox | Cairenn - up for a road trip? |
| 22:12.35 | Cairenn | ccox: hehehe |
| 22:13.28 | AckisWork | if you reversed those two words it'd make me giggle |
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| 22:16.36 | Sixen | Is it me or is the blizzcon site stilll down |
| 22:16.45 | selckin | its you |
| 22:16.46 | selckin | panic! |
| 22:16.51 | Sixen | =[ |
| 22:17.10 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 22:17.37 | Cairenn | I presume you guys have seen the t-shirt, right? |
| 22:17.42 | Cairenn | http://www.cafepress.com/Helias |
| 22:18.41 | Duman | haha |
| 22:18.55 | foxlit | quick, sue for copyright infringement! |
| 22:18.56 | Cairenn | betcha we see a ton of them at the 'con |
| 22:19.17 | Cairenn | foxlit: I'm surprised blizz hasn't already told cafepress to take them down |
| 22:19.32 | AckisWork | Cairenn: who says we're gonna get tickets? |
| 22:19.39 | Neuro_Medivh | wtb: Blizzcon in Texas |
| 22:19.52 | AckisWork | ewww brokebackblizzcon |
| 22:19.55 | Sixen | Rofl |
| 22:20.22 | Neuro_Medivh | they have a center in Austin, they could hold a Blizzcon there |
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| 22:22.01 | Anaral | Um, BrokeBack was set in S. Dakota |
| 22:22.09 | Esamynn | hahaha, that t-shirt is just WIN |
| 22:23.19 | AckisWork | Anaral: I'm Canadian, all your states blend into one on me :( |
| 22:23.25 | Anaral | Lol |
| 22:23.29 | Anaral | Harr |
| 22:24.01 | Anaral | That's okay, I thought BC was on the N. East side of CA until about 2 or 3 years ago. |
| 22:24.16 | AckisWork | lol |
| 22:24.32 | AckisWork | and your states are so small too which seems odd |
| 22:24.34 | Esamynn | ~fail Anaral |
| 22:24.35 | purl | Anaral, you Fail! |
| 22:24.54 | Anaral | :( |
| 22:25.03 | NightHawkTheSane | AckisWork: that's okay, you're entire country seems like just one more state to us. |
| 22:25.07 | NightHawkTheSane | your* |
| 22:25.24 | AckisWork | our country is bigger than all your states combined (second largest country in the world :P) |
| 22:25.52 | NightHawkTheSane | i fail to see your point? :P |
| 22:26.22 | AckisWork | we're too big and cold for you |
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| 22:28.11 | NightHawkTheSane | actually, i found it rather pleasant when i've been there in the past. |
| 22:28.39 | Duman | *shakefist* Blizzard Store |
| 22:28.55 | AckisWork | it's nice here |
| 22:29.00 | AckisWork | unless you lose your head |
| 22:29.16 | NightHawkTheSane | i try to keep my head in the same place, to avoid that. |
| 22:29.50 | Neo|Home | I admit |
| 22:30.02 | Neo|Home | I never lost my head. it's always right on top of my neck. easy to find |
| 22:30.12 | AckisWork | I was making a tasteless joke =/ |
| 22:30.16 | AckisWork | way to ruin it on me |
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| 22:39.35 | Duman | The system is down. |
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| 22:45.34 | Cairenn | do do do do |
| 22:45.53 | Garoun|Loupana | la la la |
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| 22:46.13 | Cairenn | light switch rave! |
| 22:46.14 | Tyler232 | hi |
| 22:46.20 | Cairenn | hi |
| 22:46.35 | Tyler232 | im having some trouble putting a button on my xml window |
| 22:46.35 | Esamynn | Tyler232: if you value your sanity, run now! |
| 22:47.16 | Tyler232 | http://pastebin.com/m39d271bb |
| 22:47.16 | Garoun|Loupana | take two lua's can call us in the morning |
| 22:47.21 | Garoun|Loupana | :) |
| 22:47.21 | Sixen | Is the BlizzCon ticket system even up? |
| 22:47.24 | Duman | haha |
| 22:47.27 | Cairenn | no |
| 22:47.28 | Duman | sixen: no :( |
| 22:47.35 | Duman | The system is down. |
| 22:47.41 | Duman | https://www.blizzard.com/store/ |
| 22:48.00 | Sixen | according to blizz it's up |
| 22:48.14 | Tyler232 | anyone know whats wrong with my .xml : http://pastebin.com/m39d271bb |
| 22:48.31 | Esamynn | Tyler232: patience |
| 22:48.51 | Garoun|Loupana | ok rapidSVN is being annoying |
| 22:49.01 | Garoun|Loupana | it's what I get for using a win64 machine :/ |
| 22:53.10 | Lunessa | Tyler232: Run your XML through this validator: http://dev.averageurl.com/wow/xml/ |
| 22:54.12 | Garoun|Loupana | I thought xml required a space for short form closing tags |
| 22:54.17 | Esamynn | nope |
| 22:54.41 | Tyler232 | how can <scripts> be invalid |
| 22:54.42 | Gnarfoz | ~seen foxlit |
| 22:54.44 | purl | foxlit <n=foxlit@0x573e6bae.alb2nxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 35m 49s ago, saying: 'quick, sue for copyright infringement!'. |
| 22:54.46 | Tyler232 | i got it from wowwiki |
| 22:54.56 | Gnarfoz | :\ |
| 22:55.01 | Tyler232 | and it works |
| 22:55.05 | Garoun|Loupana | hmm, maybe I've been doing w3c xhtml too much |
| 22:56.03 | Tyler232 | hmmm |
| 22:56.12 | Esamynn | I think that evaluator is busted |
| 22:56.23 | Tyler232 | yea |
| 22:56.44 | Tyler232 | definately |
| 22:56.59 | Tyler232 | now it says theres no such thing as 'button' |
| 22:57.22 | Esamynn | oh wait |
| 22:57.26 | Esamynn | I think I see the problem |
| 22:57.44 | Tyler232 | does it have to do with templates or somethin |
| 22:58.04 | Esamynn | the button creation has to be enclosed in <Frames> </Frames> tags |
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| 22:58.29 | Tyler232 | but isnt it inside it already |
| 22:58.36 | Esamynn | Tyler232: first thing you do when your xml doesn't load is check the FrameXML.log fiole |
| 22:58.38 | Esamynn | file* |
| 22:58.47 | Esamynn | Tyler232: it's inside a <Frame> tag, not a <Frames> tag |
| 22:59.01 | Duman | heh |
| 22:59.33 | Esamynn | Lunessa: who wrote that xml evaluator? |
| 22:59.41 | Esamynn | (assuming you know) |
| 22:59.49 | Lunessa | Scytheblade |
| 22:59.55 | Tyler232 | sweet it works now |
| 23:00.18 | Esamynn | we should tell him about that bug |
| 23:01.42 | Lunessa | You should. And there's even an e-mail address you can use right on the page. :) |
| 23:01.53 | Esamynn | :P |
| 23:01.56 | Duman | hehe |
| 23:04.21 | leethal | can you tell drop-downs to have certain options disabled? |
| 23:06.34 | Duman | Is there a good event to hook that fires every time I do damage (melee or spell)... or will I have to hook lots of events (which is fine, I guess) |
| 23:07.11 | leethal | COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED, I guess |
| 23:08.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Esamynn: I should probably just document the details about that validator in a bit more detail |
| 23:08.49 | leethal | and then, I think, look for SWING_DAMAGE, RANGE_DAMAGE and SPELL_DAMAGE in there |
| 23:09.02 | Esamynn | ScytheBlade1: I sent email :P |
| 23:09.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Esamynn: I read the e-mail ;) |
| 23:09.31 | Esamynn | ScytheBlade1: you can't document away a valid bug :P |
| 23:09.38 | Tyler232 | is there a way i can get my addon to tell when i click on an npc |
| 23:09.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Actually I can, simply because of the way the validator works/doesn't work as the case may be |
| 23:10.06 | Esamynn | ScytheBlade1: ok, maybe you can, but you shouldn't! :P |
| 23:10.09 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 23:10.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Fair enough |
| 23:10.24 | Duman | leethal, ahh yeah, probably better to watch the log, heh |
| 23:10.30 | Duman | brain is slow today for some reason |
| 23:10.32 | Esamynn | and if you do, you will be demoted to Initiate and LEFT THERE! :P |
| 23:10.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Truth be told it just saves the XML and passes it through xmllint |
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| 23:10.38 | ScytheBlade1 | And pretties up the output a bit |
| 23:12.00 | Esamynn | is XML really technically order specific? |
| 23:12.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Technicaly yes, but that's more along the lines of "every validator will yell at you but every app will parse it fine" |
| 23:13.01 | ScytheBlade1 | (I think) |
| 23:13.11 | Esamynn | O_o |
| 23:13.16 | cbreak | I think some things are ordered |
| 23:13.19 | cbreak | (elements) |
| 23:13.24 | cbreak | but arguments can have any order |
| 23:13.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, it's one of those "meh" kinda things |
| 23:13.34 | cbreak | and some elements can contain unordered subelements? |
| 23:13.37 | Esamynn | we're talking about elements here |
| 23:14.03 | Esamynn | at least, I think that is, my xml terminology is rusty |
| 23:14.10 | ScytheBlade1 | The .xsd also specifies that some elements are *required* when if you're just making a script frame, WoW waves that requirement |
| 23:14.18 | ScytheBlade1 | The .xsd could use a bit of touching up |
| 23:14.21 | Esamynn | does it? |
| 23:14.24 | Esamynn | hmm |
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| 23:15.33 | Esamynn | ScytheBlade1: got an example? |
| 23:15.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Sure. Your example. |
| 23:15.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Read the error it spits out |
| 23:15.58 | ScytheBlade1 | "Expected is one of ( {http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ui/}Size, {http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ui/}Anchors )." |
| 23:16.10 | Esamynn | I meant for the required thing |
| 23:16.14 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 23:16.19 | ScytheBlade1 | It's requiring either Size or Anchors |
| 23:16.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Which are not present |
| 23:16.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Throw an anchor in and it'll validate fine |
| 23:16.42 | Esamynn | ahh |
| 23:17.59 | Esamynn | only works if you specify and Anchors tag BEFORE the <scripts> tag |
| 23:18.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 23:18.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Order + presence |
| 23:18.48 | leethal | anyone else got weird BG ids? |
| 23:18.58 | ScytheBlade1 | leethal: everyone |
| 23:19.03 | leethal | aw ok |
| 23:19.17 | Esamynn | are you sure it's requiring them, my xsl knowledge is rough, but I thought that <xs:sequence minOccurs="0"> would make them optional |
| 23:19.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Note how it's requiring "Size" *or* "Anchors" |
| 23:19.52 | ScytheBlade1 | You'd have to check an earlier element |
| 23:20.22 | batrick | bleeter: you may want to make it so people on your friends list don't enter the waiting room |
| 23:20.27 | Tyler232 | >is there a way i can get my addon to tell when i click on an npc |
| 23:20.28 | batrick | or perhaps that's intended? lol? |
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| 23:21.35 | Esamynn | ScytheBlade1: me thinks my xsl knowledge is a little too rough to continue this discussion atm ;) |
| 23:21.43 | Pneumatus | Tyler232: PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED event perhaps |
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| 23:21.58 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 23:22.07 | Anaral | Can mages still learn to port to Dalaran at 71? If so, where do I get the quest? |
| 23:22.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Well just the same... that error is really validator specifics. WoW will parse it fine |
| 23:22.24 | Esamynn | soo |
| 23:22.26 | Esamynn | it's a bug |
| 23:22.28 | Esamynn | fix it :P |
| 23:22.36 | Esamynn | jeez |
| 23:22.52 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 23:23.01 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: feh, don't give in! :P |
| 23:23.08 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't have any desire to submit C patches to the libxml2 project |
| 23:23.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Sorry |
| 23:23.16 | Esamynn | haha |
| 23:23.32 | Esamynn | can say as I blame you |
| 23:24.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Well as long as we're clear ;) |
| 23:25.10 | Esamynn | oh, I see |
| 23:25.29 | Esamynn | the xs:choice tag needs a minOccurs="0" prop, right? |
| 23:25.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Probably |
| 23:26.14 | ScytheBlade1 | if you have a box with libxml2 on it, you can check it yourself with whatever XSD you make |
| 23:26.27 | ScytheBlade1 | The syntax is simple, `xmllint --schema blah.xsd file-to-check.xml` |
| 23:26.33 | Duman | OMG BLIZZARD STORE IS UP |
| 23:26.34 | Duman | GO! |
| 23:26.44 | Ackis | I had a green "confirm" |
| 23:26.47 | Ackis | then it was "error" |
| 23:26.48 | Ackis | FUCK |
| 23:27.04 | Duman | GAH |
| 23:27.06 | Duman | made me log in again |
| 23:27.18 | Esamynn | lol |
| 23:27.21 | Esamynn | big surprise |
| 23:27.28 | Duman | wtf |
| 23:27.37 | Duman | gah |
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| 23:28.18 | Mooninaut | so it wants elements to occur in order of the type they were defined in? |
| 23:28.25 | Mooninaut | for inherited types? |
| 23:28.52 | Esamynn | seems that way |
| 23:29.41 | Esamynn | not requiring those tags might fix that problem |
| 23:29.57 | Duman | oh, hmm.. need to fill in names when you order the tix? |
| 23:30.33 | Esamynn | Mooninaut: nope, I take that back |
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| 23:34.00 | Mooninaut | I suppose there's no way in XSD to specify that an element /or/ an attribute must appear |
| 23:34.23 | Esamynn | yah well, we we're even touching on that one ;) |
| 23:34.25 | Mooninaut | which is why it bothers me about Anchors when I have SetAllPoints=true |
| 23:34.30 | Esamynn | weren't* |
| 23:37.12 | DARKGuy | haha |
| 23:37.27 | DARKGuy | it's better than getting rickrolled |
| 23:37.30 | Duman | haha |
| 23:37.34 | Esamynn | true dat |
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| 23:38.00 | Aiiane | speaking of rickrolls |
| 23:38.02 | Aiiane | http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e216/duncan0/NGGYU.jpg :P |
| 23:38.42 | DARKGuy | LMAO |
| 23:38.43 | DARKGuy | nice |
| 23:38.43 | DARKGuy | xD |
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| 23:41.57 | cbreak | Is there a way to query the interface version of the running WOW? |
| 23:42.05 | cbreak | I would like to make my addon run with both life and beta talents |
| 23:42.07 | End | GetBuildInfo() |
| 23:42.18 | Xuerian | rofl, Aiiane |
| 23:42.31 | cbreak | thanks end |
| 23:42.39 | Aiiane | cbreak - 4th return argument of that function is the TOC version |
| 23:42.54 | Tyler232 | can anyone help me with "events" |
| 23:43.03 | Aiiane | version, build, date, tocversion = GetBuildInfo() |
| 23:43.15 | Aiiane | Tyler232: what about them |
| 23:43.37 | Duman | yay, "An error has occurred." |
| 23:45.18 | Sixen | Honestly.. |
| 23:46.03 | Sixen | An error has occurred.An error has occurred.An error has occurred.An error has occurred.An error has occurred.An error has occurred.An error has occurred. |
| 23:46.05 | Sixen | QQ. |
| 23:46.33 | |pez| | sweet |
| 23:46.37 | Duman | what angers me the most is having to re-enter my info every time :P |
| 23:47.05 | Saiket | An Oops! flag would be cool for the goody bags. |
| 23:47.08 | Sixen | Agreed, :( |
| 23:47.10 | Duman | haha! |
| 23:47.16 | Sixen | Saiket, that would be like a slap in the face. |
| 23:47.25 | Sixen | "We forgot Goody bags this year!" |
| 23:47.27 | Sixen | [OOPS!] |
| 23:47.32 | Duman | bwahahahahaha |
| 23:47.32 | Sixen | | |
| 23:47.33 | Sixen | :P |
| 23:47.46 | Saiket | Hahah, our goody bags are missing their XSLT mimetype! |
| 23:48.25 | Duman | I give up. |
| 23:48.28 | Neuro_Medivh | Duman, if you punch a murloc in the throat, does it make him sound normal? |
| 23:48.33 | Duman | They better not be sold out, I'll try again in like 4 hours |
| 23:48.38 | Duman | haha |
| 23:48.47 | Sixen | :( |
| 23:48.55 | Duman | if they sell out, I'm crashing it, anyway |
| 23:49.00 | Duman | they will need to call the cops |
| 23:49.05 | Sixen | Every time you punch a murloc in the throat, an angel gets its wings. |
| 23:49.11 | Sixen | True story. |
| 23:49.18 | Duman | ahaha |
| 23:49.59 | Sixen | =o |
| 23:50.03 | Sixen | I am the Murloc. |
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| 23:50.59 | Neuro_Medivh | koo koo ca gurgle? |
| 23:51.32 | DARKGuy | yeah |
| 23:51.32 | Duman | sigh |
| 23:51.54 | DARKGuy | o.o |
| 23:52.07 | Sixen | NOE WINGZ 4 U |
| 23:52.41 | Sixen | So, is the system designed to bring me to the Error page? |
| 23:52.44 | Sixen | Or is it supposed to do something? |
| 23:53.06 | Duman | heh |
| 23:53.10 | Duman | it's all a joke |
| 23:53.11 | Duman | TRICK |
| 23:53.30 | DARKGuy | :( |
| 23:53.54 | Lunessa | ~fail BlizzCon ticket site. |
| 23:53.55 | purl | BlizzCon ticket site., you Fail! |
| 23:53.58 | Sixen | agreed. |
| 23:54.21 | Duman | last attempt and then I bail from work early |
| 23:56.39 | Duman | I wonder if they have sold ANY tickets yet |
| 23:56.41 | Duman | this is silly |
| 23:56.45 | Sixen | =/ |
| 23:56.59 | Cide | no. this is SPARTA |
| 23:57.07 | DARKGuy | lol |
