| 00:03.13 | Lunessa | Heh, I didn't have much time to play, so I logged in this morning and got some exploration achievements. I found a place in Feralas that I didn't know was there, and I've been playing forver. |
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| 00:04.09 | Pneumatus | im saving all that for live, when it will actually count :> |
| 00:04.29 | Pneumatus | theres a guy on EU alliance that has the classic dungeonmaster achievement as he's had nothing better to do on beta |
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| 00:04.53 | Dashkal | imps will get the enhanced range from destructive reach |
| 00:05.07 | Pneumatus | oh, ignore that, he cant quite have the dungeonmaster |
| 00:05.19 | Pneumatus | as im sure he hasnt done c'thun, and possibly nef |
| 00:05.28 | Brimm | nef is retroactive |
| 00:05.31 | Brimm | as is C'thun |
| 00:05.43 | Brimm | Ring and Atiesh respectively |
| 00:05.43 | Pneumatus | are they actually retroactively counting on beta now? |
| 00:05.48 | Brimm | doubt it |
| 00:05.50 | kd3 | next build |
| 00:05.53 | Pneumatus | yeh, didnt think so |
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| 00:06.12 | Pneumatus | all the endbosses have had their loot tables added to the achievement triggers also |
| 00:06.28 | Brimm | Doubt many still have the drops around though |
| 00:06.28 | Pneumatus | or at least will have, by the next build |
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| 00:07.26 | Pneumatus | yeh, i DEd all my T2/T3 when wotlk came |
| 00:07.41 | Wobin | always a scary task |
| 00:07.50 | Pneumatus | we, BC even |
| 00:07.51 | Wobin | I prefer to give that task to my cat |
| 00:08.17 | foxlit | [02:05] Brimm: as is C'thun ...Atiesh |
| 00:08.22 | foxlit | C'Thun has a ring too, you know |
| 00:08.29 | Brimm | You're right |
| 00:08.31 | foxlit | Atiesh is more Kel'Thuzad |
| 00:08.31 | Brimm | :) |
| 00:08.36 | Brimm | Atiesh requires both |
| 00:08.36 | Pneumatus | i see the DK starting quest chains have been tweaked a little |
| 00:08.46 | kd3 | wiki's already got all the updates |
| 00:08.49 | Ackis | so hot here |
| 00:08.53 | Pneumatus | im still 1 bubble from 58 after completeing it tho :< |
| 00:08.59 | Ackis | 37C outside in my back yard |
| 00:09.01 | Wobin | argh |
| 00:09.09 | Wobin | I blame modern music |
| 00:09.12 | kd3 | there's more that's gonna happen in new ebon hold |
| 00:09.16 | foxlit | Ackis: do silithus |
| 00:09.38 | Wobin | for making me, mentally complete -any- reference to "it's hot in here" with "so why don't you take off your clothes" |
| 00:09.57 | Ackis | NO U |
| 00:10.03 | Wobin | no way |
| 00:10.08 | Wobin | It's freeezing here |
| 00:10.44 | Ackis | who says I'm wearing clothes? |
| 00:10.53 | Wobin | will the purchase of wotlk include bc? |
| 00:10.58 | Brimm | doubtful |
| 00:11.10 | Ackis | Wobin: i heard there was a combo dealy |
| 00:11.13 | Wobin | that would be strange |
| 00:11.28 | foxlit | I'm sure they'll pack some sort of battlechest |
| 00:11.28 | Wobin | how would one get from 60-70 then? |
| 00:11.35 | foxlit | with vanilla + bc + wotlk |
| 00:12.18 | Xuerian | Am I the only one that has extracted the wotlk music to listen to? >_> |
| 00:12.57 | Wobin | can you send it to me, X? |
| 00:13.30 | Pneumatus | i still think the DK chain should take you to 58 minimum :< |
| 00:13.32 | Xuerian | Wobin: Get MyWarcraftStudio from the model viewer site and just filter the lichking.mpq file to mp3s |
| 00:13.41 | Pneumatus | the fact you have to try and find like 2 quests to ding 58 is a pita |
| 00:13.43 | Wobin | well... |
| 00:13.51 | Wobin | I don't have the client =) |
| 00:13.58 | Xuerian | Why not? I'm not in the beta and I have it ready :p |
| 00:14.15 | Ackis | anyone here play on illidan US? |
| 00:23.33 | Xuerian | If anyone else was interested in the music, wotlkwiki has it up. http://wotlkwiki.info/index.php/Music |
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| 00:34.31 | Sixen | wotlkwiki? |
| 00:34.35 | Sixen | that's gay :( |
| 00:34.45 | Sixen | WoWWiki > WotLKWiki |
| 00:35.35 | Tekkub | welcome to like 2 months ago :P |
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| 00:47.15 | Sixen | lol |
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| 00:52.52 | Xuerian | Actually, I rather the ease of navigation on wotlkwiki. The massive wowwiki sidebars are really, really annoying. |
| 00:53.02 | Xuerian | Now, for API reference or anything else, wowwiki it is >_> |
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| 00:53.18 | Shirik|zZz | why not wowprogramming.com? |
| 00:53.26 | Kaso | wowprogramming is sorta the gold standard for api ref now |
| 00:53.38 | Xuerian | Shirik: Because I'm a finicky bastard? |
| 00:53.47 | Shirik|zZz | grrr |
| 00:53.55 | Shirik|zZz | I need some way to change my laptop's nick remotely |
| 00:54.07 | Xuerian | Just like you, mr pre-commit "omg no tabs" hook |
| 00:54.10 | Shirik|zZz | :D |
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| 00:56.07 | Xuerian | Oh, and because wowwiki is easier to read. |
| 00:57.39 | Xuerian | because forcing underlines on anchors = fail |
| 00:59.55 | Xuerian | Srsly, text-decoration is underlined by default in browsers, but can be turned off. Not if it's specified in css -_-; |
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| 01:03.38 | Yssaril | is there any way to track changes to a table other than polling or using a proxy with a metamethod? |
| 01:04.11 | cbreak | accessors |
| 01:05.28 | Yssaril | what do you mean? |
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| 01:06.05 | cbreak | disallow changes to the table and do everything over accessors |
| 01:06.20 | Tekkub | eew |
| 01:06.26 | Yssaril | hmmm sounds painfull |
| 01:06.32 | cbreak | yes :) |
| 01:06.38 | Tekkub | sounds wasteful :P |
| 01:06.47 | Xuerian | Why not just metamethod? |
| 01:07.03 | cbreak | he said without meta method :) |
| 01:07.23 | Yssaril | Xuerian: you have to use a proxy wich kinda ruinds pairs/ipairs |
| 01:07.31 | Yssaril | *ruins |
| 01:07.42 | Tekkub | it's not hard to provide iters |
| 01:08.16 | Yssaril | i guess i will have to do that |
| 01:09.26 | kd3 | whee at pulling half of lbrs |
| 01:10.23 | Yssaril | how wrong would it be to hook pairs/ipairs and if it detects my metatable use my iter instead of pairs/ipairs? |
| 01:10.39 | Xuerian | ... |
| 01:10.43 | Tekkub | very, provide your own iters |
| 01:10.53 | Yssaril | kk just checking :) |
| 01:11.15 | Tekkub | what is this for? |
| 01:11.47 | Yssaril | just an idea i am playing with nothing serious atm |
| 01:12.01 | Kaso | hooking pairs? that entire concept terrifies me |
| 01:12.13 | Tekkub | you realize LDB already does this shit for you... |
| 01:12.38 | Xuerian | Wondered how long it'd take for that to get suggested (Seeing as I opted not to, and see what would happen >.>) |
| 01:12.51 | Arrowmaster | and the hook would fail a lot since lots of people make upvalues to pairs and ipairs |
| 01:13.33 | Yssaril | Tekkub: has nothing to do with LDB |
| 01:13.41 | Tekkub | why? |
| 01:13.55 | Tekkub | that's EXACTLY what LDB does, callbacks for changes to a table |
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| 01:16.37 | Yssaril | am not worried about callbacks |
| 01:17.33 | Yssaril | just playing around with tables/metatables and trying to get my head around them :) |
| 01:17.51 | Xuerian | If you're not releasing this in a addon, feel free to fuck up anything you want |
| 01:18.09 | Xuerian | Otherwise, It'd save you time, effort, and headache to use LDB |
| 01:18.46 | Wobin | "Can't sleep? Up all night worried about callbacks? Just ask Yssaril about "Dr Yssaril, or How I learned to stop worrying and love the table" |
| 01:19.05 | Yssaril | rofl |
| 01:19.13 | Xuerian | lol |
| 01:19.48 | Wobin | hm, this keyboard is alright |
| 01:19.58 | Wobin | but I just can't get used to the halfsized rightshift key |
| 01:20.05 | Wobin | I keep hitting up arrow |
| 01:20.15 | Yssaril | laptop keyboard? |
| 01:20.24 | Wobin | new eeePC 1000H one |
| 01:20.54 | Xuerian | Wobin: Try having \ next to backspace, a half-sized right shift key, and a extra-large enter key. |
| 01:21.41 | Lunessa | Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room! |
| 01:21.58 | Wobin | http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/images/gallery/4/2008/05/medium_2531830583_e8d49e623c_o.jpg |
| 01:22.04 | Wobin | that's essentially what it looks like |
| 01:22.09 | Wobin | except this one is larger |
| 01:22.15 | Wobin | but that's where the up arrow key is |
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| 01:24.09 | Yssaril | yea that arrow key seams hard to miss |
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| 01:51.21 | schnoggo | just getting caught up on scrollback.... |
| 01:51.52 | schnoggo | worse than soldering in your underwear: soldering with polyester pants on... ah the horrible 70's |
| 01:57.51 | schnoggo | arrow keys: My favorite keyboard: http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/advantage.htm - but arrow keys are in-line. Hardest part about getting used to it. |
| 01:58.28 | Corrodias | in-line? |
| 01:58.42 | Corrodias | oh, like, in a single row? i remember one of those |
| 01:58.45 | Lunessa | I want one of those, but the lack of true touch-typing skill on my part makes it seem like an unhappy adjustment period. |
| 01:59.16 | Corrodias | here's a fun way to learn typing: just try typing on IRC without looking |
| 01:59.34 | Corrodias | although there's an adjusment period for anyone who is using a new layout of keyboard than they're used to |
| 01:59.36 | Kirov | schnoggo - I hate using that keyboard |
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| 02:00.10 | Wobin | I had one of those desktop keyboard trays that slide under the tabletop |
| 02:00.30 | Wobin | I kept it rolled in to teach myself how to touchtype |
| 02:00.40 | schnoggo | I was having issues with my pinkies - dang unix ctrl-chars and StarCraft unit selectors! The kinesis moves those under your thumbs which makes life much more pleasant |
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| 02:01.23 | Lunessa | I can't touch type correctly, but I do ok with my my bastardized system. |
| 02:01.55 | schnoggo | Yeah- this pretty much forces touch-typing - your hands cover everything up :) |
| 02:02.58 | Tekkub | I can touch type just fine, until I actively think abou tit |
| 02:03.30 | Wobin | schrodinger's keyboard skills? |
| 02:03.45 | Tekkub | basically |
| 02:03.57 | |pez| | I don't touch, I use the index and middle(?) mostly. |
| 02:04.06 | |pez| | which is weird and stuff |
| 02:04.09 | Tekkub | if I don't have the letters there in front of me my brain turns off and I can't type |
| 02:04.10 | |pez| | but works for me! |
| 02:04.40 | Tekkub | same in wow, I need the icons so I remember what spell is where |
| 02:04.42 | Wobin | I'm fine with touchtyping on my unicomp, but laptop keyboards slip me up cause of the responsiveness and cramping |
| 02:04.59 | schnoggo | heh - I can't WoW without my Nostromo |
| 02:05.13 | Tekkub | <3 n52 |
| 02:05.23 | |pez| | I WoW with my laptop keyboard. |
| 02:05.30 | Wobin | I used to |
| 02:05.35 | |pez| | Mine's a full qwerty keyboard though, so it's all good. |
| 02:05.42 | Wobin | then I got a desktop |
| 02:05.44 | |pez| | But I also use the mousepad, but that's not so cool. |
| 02:05.54 | Wobin | although I wouldn't mind seeing if wow actually runs on this eeepc |
| 02:06.16 | |pez| | Anyway, goodnight guys and gals. |
| 02:06.21 | Wobin | the touchpad on this is multitouch, so it's kinda cool =) |
| 02:06.44 | schnoggo | time to go home and play some wow! (and check mail repeatedly for author beta key) |
| 02:06.46 | Wobin | you can use two fingers to page up and down and stuff |
| 02:07.03 | schnoggo | MacBookPro? |
| 02:07.11 | Wobin | asus eee pc 1000h |
| 02:07.27 | schnoggo | oh - eeepc... with a multi-touch? cool |
| 02:08.27 | Tekkub | any good? been considering getting a laptop again |
| 02:08.36 | Tekkub | but size don't bother me |
| 02:08.40 | Lukian | Wobin, it does, badly, from what i've hear |
| 02:09.35 | Wobin | Lukian, hehe =) |
| 02:10.12 | Wobin | Tekkub, I quite like it, it's relatively cheap compared to the other netbook style ones, and it's powerful enough for me |
| 02:10.23 | Wobin | ie, I can run VS2008 on it with no problem |
| 02:10.44 | Tekkub | well there's lots of notebooks around that price |
| 02:10.45 | Wobin | and I hook it up to my mobile so I can type SMSs easily |
| 02:10.54 | Tekkub | any compelling reason to get it ove a normal one? |
| 02:11.22 | Wobin | size vs power really |
| 02:11.35 | Wobin | if size isn't an issue, you could go for something different |
| 02:11.45 | Wobin | I took this cause it's extremely portable |
| 02:11.56 | Wobin | and battery power is pretty good |
| 02:12.00 | Tekkub | ahso |
| 02:13.29 | Wobin | the linux one comes in some nice colours |
| 02:13.36 | Wobin | and has the 40gig SSD |
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| 02:16.16 | Wobin | /msg nickserv id womble |
| 02:16.35 | Tekkub | lawl |
| 02:16.50 | Wobin | pft |
| 02:16.56 | Wobin | damn that double slash |
| 02:17.00 | Wobin | /say test |
| 02:17.04 | Wobin | interesting |
| 02:17.14 | Wobin | anyway |
| 02:17.24 | Wobin | the windows version has an 80gig hdd |
| 02:17.29 | Wobin | the linux one has the 40g ssd |
| 02:17.39 | Wobin | so you might get better battery on the linux one |
| 02:17.47 | Wobin | and it comes in different colours too |
| 02:17.55 | Wobin | cause apparantly windows users are black and white |
| 02:18.01 | Wobin | while linux users are more colourful |
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| 02:20.19 | Nom- | still no blizzmail oh well... they've got a day still :D |
| 02:20.41 | haste | I got it just now |
| 02:21.46 | Cairenn | haste: got what just now? |
| 02:21.57 | haste | zhe key |
| 02:22.03 | Nom- | orly ? |
| 02:22.04 | Cairenn | serious? |
| 02:22.05 | haste | y |
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| 02:22.18 | Neo|Home | hmm |
| 02:22.19 | Nom- | opt in or does it say author beta |
| 02:22.28 | Cairenn | might you be getting it any other way? opt in? blizzcon or wwi? |
| 02:22.29 | Neo|Home | doesn't ever say does it? |
| 02:22.31 | haste | author, 100% ruse |
| 02:22.32 | p3lim | WOOT |
| 02:22.35 | Dashkal | My beta key just arrived |
| 02:22.36 | p3lim | just got my beta key |
| 02:22.37 | haste | I wasn't on opt-in |
| 02:22.54 | Cairenn | you guys aren't pulling my leg, right? |
| 02:22.56 | haste | <insert flood> |
| 02:22.59 | Cairenn | cause you'll hurt you |
| 02:23.02 | Cairenn | I'll* |
| 02:23.03 | p3lim | I just got it cai |
| 02:23.03 | Nom- | wooooooooooot |
| 02:23.14 | Dashkal | Cairenn: no bullshit, mine is sitting in my inbox |
| 02:23.14 | p3lim | gonna log in now, just copied my druid over |
| 02:23.15 | Nom- | were you guys in group 1 or group 2 |
| 02:23.21 | Nom- | week 1 or week 2? |
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| 02:23.35 | Dashkal | <--- week 1 |
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| 02:23.49 | haste | <-- week 1 |
| 02:24.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Dashkal: i may hurt you anyway, just cause i havn't gotten mine yet. :P |
| 02:24.08 | p3lim | < week 1 |
| 02:24.25 | p3lim | Btw, let me know if there is some EU PVE Guild up |
| 02:24.26 | Nom- | so if they're doing week 1 now... i'm hoping they'll do week 2 right after :D |
| 02:24.27 | Dashkal | NightHawkTheSane: one or two emails there for them to send :p |
| 02:24.36 | p3lim | Nom-: I waited two weeks |
| 02:24.46 | NightHawkTheSane | WOAH |
| 02:24.49 | p3lim | Dont get your hopes up, all I can say |
| 02:25.02 | NightHawkTheSane | dude, right as i was staring at Mail, the beta key popped in my inbox. :D |
| 02:25.11 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 02:25.17 | NeoTron | me too! |
| 02:25.20 | p3lim | ^_^ |
| 02:25.21 | NeoTron | just now |
| 02:25.30 | p3lim | cya'll there in a few min |
| 02:25.38 | p3lim | just gonna finish this AV and get my Olympics pet |
| 02:25.38 | |Yssaril| | woot got my key too |
| 02:25.40 | NightHawkTheSane | It seems odd, that it's show up at 7:30pm PST |
| 02:25.47 | NightHawkTheSane | but hell, I'm not complaining. |
| 02:25.48 | p3lim | 04:30 here |
| 02:25.57 | p3lim | that is paris time |
| 02:26.14 | NightHawkTheSane | p3lim: well, whoever is doing this on blizz's end is PROBABLY in Irvine, therefore PST. :P |
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| 02:26.25 | p3lim | ok.. :p |
| 02:26.32 | Nom- | shit i just got mine |
| 02:26.33 | Nom- | sweet |
| 02:26.38 | p3lim | I dont care who gave it to me really, all i care is that i finally got it ;D |
| 02:26.43 | Nom- | Aug 8 10:24:20 gateway postfix/qmgr[4642]: 6B8F2644FD: from=<WoWExpansionBeta@blizzard.com>, size=14213, nrcpt=1 (queue active) |
| 02:26.46 | Shirik|AFK | Nom-, it's possible they just went out |
| 02:26.46 | Nom- | :D |
| 02:26.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Got my key |
| 02:26.49 | NightHawkTheSane | p3lim: exactly :D |
| 02:27.05 | Nom- | argh |
| 02:27.09 | Nom- | can't find which mailbox it filtered into |
| 02:27.17 | Shirik|AFK | rofl |
| 02:27.20 | Nom- | this is a catastrophe |
| 02:27.21 | p3lim | its the one thats registered to your account |
| 02:27.22 | Shirik|AFK | owned by your mail client? |
| 02:27.27 | Nom- | there it is, found it :D |
| 02:27.38 | Nom- | it took a while to filter through procmail ^_^ |
| 02:27.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Nom-: hah, owned. |
| 02:28.12 | Nom- | I knew that tail on my mail logs would pay off :D |
| 02:28.49 | Dashkal | To anybody that is doubting: I just successfully created my beta acct. Unless we're all DNS poisioned, this is the real deal |
| 02:28.53 | p3lim | odd, i cant log in |
| 02:29.07 | Nom- | beta key accepted :D |
| 02:29.16 | Xuerian | Wooo key |
| 02:29.19 | p3lim | lol, it says mail address, but its really account name |
| 02:29.22 | Xuerian | awesomecakes |
| 02:29.23 | p3lim | (on the login) |
| 02:29.29 | NeoTron | chared queued to be copied |
| 02:29.38 | p3lim | but my char aint there :< |
| 02:29.43 | p3lim | how long would it take? |
| 02:29.48 | cog|away | start a dk ;) |
| 02:29.56 | p3lim | true.. |
| 02:29.58 | NightHawkTheSane | indeed cog., |
| 02:30.35 | Lunessa | Does this mean when I get home and can play there will be a lot more <Secure Templars>? |
| 02:30.40 | p3lim | cant choose hair/skin/color etc on DK |
| 02:30.45 | cog|away | Lunessa: i believe so |
| 02:30.46 | NightHawkTheSane | actually, for anyone who is already in beta.. is it worth my time to send cash around to the 2-3 characters i mgiht copy so they each copy over with most of my gold? or is it just not worth it? |
| 02:31.02 | NightHawkTheSane | p3lim: i think they said they were working on implementing those, so they may not be fully available yet |
| 02:31.07 | p3lim | ait |
| 02:31.13 | Lunessa | NightHawkAtWork: Depends on how much money you want to have to spend on nothing. |
| 02:31.15 | Dashkal | Crap, I didn't think of doing that before copying over savrine *sigh* |
| 02:31.23 | Dashkal | oh well, if I run short of cash I can always do it again |
| 02:31.30 | cog|away | NightHawkTheSane: send some for training |
| 02:31.46 | NightHawkTheSane | well, I'm copying over my pally right now, who |
| 02:31.49 | Xuerian | Do we have a us server/guild? >_> |
| 02:31.58 | cog|away | or just sell all your crap in your bank you don't need anymore ;P |
| 02:31.59 | NightHawkTheSane | who's got ~4.5k |
| 02:32.04 | Lunessa | I mean, FFS someone gave me 20K for some silly items for a quest. (I'm one of the few beta testers to have maxed out mining already). |
| 02:32.06 | p3lim | made a tauren DK for now, eu server |
| 02:32.06 | Cairenn | Xuerian: it's on the news post :p |
| 02:32.07 | cog|away | Xuerian: yes |
| 02:32.10 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm just wondering if it's worth sending that all to my shammy before copying her |
| 02:32.26 | Lunessa | Do it. :) |
| 02:32.27 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202651695&sid=1&pageNo=5 |
| 02:32.45 | cog|away | yeah... no reason not to imo |
| 02:32.58 | cog|away | (unless they're on different accounts and you have to wait an hour ;) ) |
| 02:33.02 | Xuerian | Awesomecakes. |
| 02:33.13 | Beladona | NightHawkTheSane: make sure if you send stuff, to wait a little while before copying |
| 02:33.13 | Nom- | Your Account is Ready! |
| 02:33.13 | Nom- | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:33.14 | Nom- | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:33.18 | Nom- | WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT |
| 02:33.23 | Beladona | it doesn't show up immediately on the char |
| 02:33.37 | NeoTron | wow copy is already done |
| 02:33.41 | cog|away | i'm online right now (guess the name) if you want a ginvite |
| 02:33.48 | Beladona | I learned that the hard way when I tried to bring all of the guild bank's epic gems with me into beta |
| 02:34.30 | NightHawkTheSane | no horde guild, though, eh? :\ |
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| 02:35.18 | kd3 | no whorde guild indeed |
| 02:35.24 | Lunessa | Not yet. We discussed <WTB API PST> |
| 02:35.56 | Cairenn | Tek is setting that up right now for US Horde |
| 02:35.58 | p3lim | Im 'pelimtest' on EU PVE |
| 02:36.01 | p3lim | (for now) |
| 02:36.16 | Cairenn | and Funkeh is setting up EU |
| 02:36.39 | p3lim | cool |
| 02:36.48 | Tekkub | need siggers for WTB API, at underschitty |
| 02:36.53 | Beladona | we need to get some real groups going |
| 02:36.59 | Nom- | my copy is already done too lol |
| 02:37.01 | Beladona | its been heavily lacking up until now |
| 02:37.04 | Nom- | so can't wait to get home now |
| 02:37.08 | Nom- | I'm totally not working late tonight! |
| 02:37.35 | Beladona | I wonder if this means a build will be released in the next day or two |
| 02:37.37 | Dashkal | Nom-: Now what kind of good company ethic is that? :p |
| 02:37.52 | p3lim | Tekkub: eu or us? |
| 02:37.55 | Nom- | Dashkal: I've been working 14 hour days all this week... I think I can get away with it :D |
| 02:38.02 | Tekkub | us |
| 02:38.02 | Dashkal | ow ow ow ow ow |
| 02:38.05 | Dashkal | Get your butt out of there :p |
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| 02:39.41 | Shirik|AFK | so, I have to admit I'm a bit confused about this whole "PC/Mac" thing now |
| 02:39.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub: still need sigs for us/pve/horde? |
| 02:39.45 | Shirik|AFK | Macs started using Intel, right? |
| 02:39.54 | cog|away | yeth |
| 02:39.56 | Shirik|AFK | so.... do they use the PC client? |
| 02:39.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: yes |
| 02:39.58 | Tekkub | yes, I"m still on my way to get the charter |
| 02:40.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: no |
| 02:40.09 | Shirik|AFK | How does the application work on both architectures? |
| 02:40.15 | Beladona | wow? |
| 02:40.21 | Shirik|AFK | I know it sounds like a stupid question |
| 02:40.22 | cogwheel | it uses a lot of the same architecture |
| 02:40.23 | Tekkub | majick |
| 02:40.30 | cogwheel | main difference is the BIOS |
| 02:40.35 | Xuerian | Horde guild going up on PvE server, right? |
| 02:40.35 | Shirik|AFK | the opcodes are the same? |
| 02:40.37 | Beladona | EFI |
| 02:40.38 | cbreak | Shirik: no |
| 02:40.46 | cogwheel | yes, it's the same instruction set |
| 02:40.47 | Beladona | among other things |
| 02:40.48 | Shirik|AFK | ok |
| 02:40.51 | cbreak | they do not use the pc client |
| 02:40.53 | Shirik|AFK | That's the part that was really bugging me |
| 02:40.57 | cbreak | different frameworks |
| 02:40.58 | Shirik|AFK | I didn't realize the instruction set was the same |
| 02:40.58 | Cairenn | Funkeh`: can I ask a favour, please? |
| 02:40.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik|AFK: they made a binary format which has both PPC and X86 binaries in the same file, pretty much. You build it for both archs |
| 02:41.08 | Shirik|AFK | ok then :) |
| 02:41.15 | Funkeh` | Cairenn, anything |
| 02:41.25 | cbreak | the main difference is the whole API |
| 02:41.29 | Icecold|Cookies | Cairenn, you are so ftw. |
| 02:41.33 | Shirik|AFK | Well I knew that cbreak |
| 02:41.36 | kd3 | tek, what's your whorde toon's name? |
| 02:41.38 | Shirik|AFK | the part that was bugging me is the instructions |
| 02:41.40 | Tekkub | Cub |
| 02:42.01 | cogwheel | poor ScytheBlade1 :P |
| 02:42.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: if you're talking about the basic hardware level instructions, i think those are the same.. |
| 02:42.03 | Cairenn | Funkeh`: would you please copy my post #84 from the US forum: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202651695&postId=87646504920&sid=1#84 to the EU thread: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=4965919787&sid=1 |
| 02:42.11 | Shirik|AFK | NightHawkAtWork: That's what I'm talking about |
| 02:42.15 | Cairenn | Funkeh`: and put in the EU guild names that you've set up? |
| 02:42.16 | cbreak | WoW is a universal binary, it's a mach-o binary containing PPC and i368 instructions |
| 02:42.19 | Beladona | CPU Instruction Sets are the same |
| 02:42.31 | Xinhuan | did someone just say 1 hour ago that blizz has sent out author keys? |
| 02:42.43 | Cairenn | yes, keys are arriving, watch your inbox |
| 02:42.43 | Beladona | well, keys |
| 02:42.49 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 02:42.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: they have indeed |
| 02:42.51 | Funkeh` | Cairenn, sure |
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| 02:42.56 | Cairenn | Funkeh`: thank you |
| 02:42.58 | Shirik|AFK | can't confirm that it's the author keys obviously, but it seems so |
| 02:42.59 | Xinhuan | ok i'll look |
| 02:43.01 | Beladona | author keys are probably part of it, but I have heard non-authors telling me they got theirs too |
| 02:43.45 | Xinhuan | WoW Expansion Beta Wrath of the Lich King Beta Invitation! 15 KB |
| 02:43.48 | Tekkub | anyone else coming to sign? |
| 02:43.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub: yeap |
| 02:43.56 | Xinhuan | apparently, it got filtered into my spam filter 1 hour ago |
| 02:43.59 | haste | Shirik|AFK: I didn't sign for the opt-in however |
| 02:44.01 | Beladona | ironically, I got an email asking me to test the SOE Station launcher via my old EQ account I stopped playing a long time ago |
| 02:44.05 | |Yssaril| | Tekkub: once installed and xfered :) |
| 02:44.06 | Shirik|AFK | ok haste :) |
| 02:44.07 | Xinhuan | no, less, 15 min ago |
| 02:44.12 | cogwheel | Cairenn: you going to do a news post on wowi? |
| 02:44.24 | Tekkub | you didn't have it installed? pure fail you're not allowed in the guild |
| 02:44.32 | Icecold|Cookies | What is the horde guild name on the US Servers? |
| 02:44.34 | Cairenn | yeah, I'll do a little one just to remind folks about stuff |
| 02:44.39 | Duman | heh |
| 02:44.43 | Xinhuan | thanks Cairenn :) |
| 02:44.44 | Tekkub | the horde guild is come to UC and sign |
| 02:44.53 | Cairenn | <WTB API PST>, talk to Tekkub |
| 02:45.03 | Xinhuan | the beta email was received 16 min ago by my email server |
| 02:45.06 | Icecold|Cookies | I can't come right now, we're busy wiping on archimonde for 30more minutes |
| 02:45.09 | NightHawkTheSane | tekkub, where are you in UC? |
| 02:45.21 | Duman | tek: northrend? |
| 02:45.31 | Tekkub | thrown up room, or /t for invite to group |
| 02:45.40 | Tekkub | Pve US Horde |
| 02:45.49 | Duman | I'll hop on my shaman |
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| 02:45.50 | Xinhuan | Cairenn can i also pester you to look at the ROFL mod i just uploaded? ^^ |
| 02:45.59 | Cairenn | I just approved it :p |
| 02:46.04 | Xinhuan | hehe |
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| 02:46.44 | Xinhuan | 2 player games are fun! |
| 02:46.47 | Xinhuan | (between wipes) |
| 02:46.50 | DARKGuy | O hai ^^ |
| 02:46.52 | DARKGuy | they are |
| 02:46.54 | DARKGuy | lol |
| 02:46.56 | kd3 | yay, sig #1 for <WTB API PST> |
| 02:47.01 | Shirik|AFK | I'll sign it in a second |
| 02:47.04 | Duman | so |
| 02:47.06 | Duman | I'm on my horde guy |
| 02:47.10 | Duman | who do I msg |
| 02:47.17 | Tekkub | Cub |
| 02:47.23 | Shirik|AFK | actually, I probably won't make it in time |
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| 02:47.29 | Shirik|AFK | earthwarden > beta |
| 02:47.43 | Tekkub | PvE US Horde, msg Cub, Underschitty throne room |
| 02:47.45 | Xuerian | Earthwarden? Just getting yours? |
| 02:47.46 | DARKGuy | hey, anybody knows how to edit BLP files? I've tried a few converters around but either they're lame, or don't convert a thing :/ |
| 02:47.48 | NightHawkTheSane | earthwarden? |
| 02:47.49 | NightHawkTheSane | the mace? |
| 02:47.52 | Shirik|AFK | stfu Xuerian! I just got to 70 :( |
| 02:48.12 | Xuerian | Heh, no, it's nice. I didn't get mine for a while |
| 02:48.15 | End | yay beta key |
| 02:48.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: good luck, pain in the ass grind, but well worth it. :) |
| 02:48.21 | End | <3 |
| 02:48.47 | Shirik|AFK | I gave up on the last 2k |
| 02:48.52 | Shirik|AFK | and just shelled out 600g |
| 02:49.00 | Aiiane | :O |
| 02:49.06 | Dashkal | Shirik|AFK: Sounds about what I did |
| 02:49.07 | Cairenn | there, I just edited the Reminders thread with a news post about the guilds and stuff |
| 02:49.08 | Aiiane | like... one heroic CE instance would have gotten you that |
| 02:49.15 | Dashkal | Started buying the damn things every time auctioneer had them yellow or below |
| 02:49.49 | Cairenn | Funkeh`: let me know when you've posted so I can add the EU guild names to my post, please |
| 02:50.22 | Funkeh` | Cairenn, I made the post, I'll let you know when he guilds are up |
| 02:50.29 | Cairenn | k |
| 02:50.30 | Cairenn | thanks |
| 02:51.20 | selckin | anyone know a really simple map addon(i need / cmd notes adding) that works with wotlk/beta? |
| 02:51.31 | Dashkal | And installed.... let the patching begin |
| 02:51.44 | NightHawkTheSane | you know, for having both live/beta running at the same time on the same machine, its pretty smooth |
| 02:51.47 | Xinhuan | selckin, does handynotes work? ;p |
| 02:51.48 | Dashkal | What's the current build? |
| 02:52.09 | Cairenn | don't forget guys, we've got the special beta download category and forum set up for you guys for getting your mods tested on the expansion - make use of them |
| 02:52.23 | Tekkub | need 5 more siggies |
| 02:52.23 | selckin | Xinhuan: i'll try em |
| 02:52.23 | Tekkub | PvE US Horde, msg Cub, Underschitty throne room |
| 02:54.27 | Tekkub | re: beta mods... if yours works with both live and wrath, cair said it's okey to make a placeholder in the wrath cat with big links to the live version |
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| 02:54.53 | Cairenn | aye |
| 02:56.07 | selckin | Xinhuan: can't add notes through slash command? |
| 02:56.21 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 02:56.25 | selckin | :( |
| 02:56.27 | Xinhuan | i didn't add such an ability |
| 02:56.31 | selckin | i just want a simple one that does that |
| 02:56.31 | Xinhuan | but ctrl-click on map should add a note |
| 02:56.52 | selckin | but then i gotta go select the box fr the coords and the box for the name |
| 02:56.54 | selckin | its slow |
| 02:58.24 | selckin | i just wanna do /note 40 40 quest objective is here! |
| 02:58.40 | Tekkub | come on guys, 5 more siggies :P |
| 02:58.52 | selckin | Tekkub: siggies for? |
| 02:59.01 | Tekkub | PvE US Horde, msg Cub, Underschitty throne room |
| 02:59.36 | selckin | eu :( |
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| 02:59.55 | Corrodias | pay $15 to open my account up and i'll think about updating and logging in |
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| 03:00.25 | ReAn | Cairenn: Was a Horde (PvE) guild formed? |
| 03:00.36 | Cairenn | yes, talk to Cub in game |
| 03:00.39 | End | Tekkub is forming it |
| 03:00.43 | Cairenn | UC throne room |
| 03:00.44 | End | or trying to :P |
| 03:00.47 | Tekkub | SIGGEIS!!!!!!!!!! |
| 03:01.11 | Duman | heh |
| 03:01.22 | Corrodias | sig.. oh, signatures for a charter |
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| 03:04.18 | Lunessa | He's totally pimping those siggies. Showing some leg and everything. |
| 03:04.58 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 03:06.16 | Lunessa | Writer's cramp from using a damned pen to make copious sketches/notes. Oy. |
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| 03:09.45 | Icecold|Cookies | I haven't decided if I want my horde or alliance toon to use my charcter name |
| 03:09.48 | Icecold|Cookies | hmmm.. /ponder |
| 03:11.18 | Seerah | does anyone know/recall what time BlizzCon tickets went on sale last year? |
| 03:14.16 | Seerah | nvm - hubby just found that it says business hours |
| 03:14.31 | Seerah | so no staying up late for him ;) |
| 03:15.26 | batrick | OMOMGOMGOMG |
| 03:15.30 | batrick | i got my beta invite |
| 03:15.34 | Cairenn | yay |
| 03:15.37 | Seerah | yeah, us too :) |
| 03:15.54 | Adys | grats :) |
| 03:16.08 | batrick | ah im an hour late |
| 03:16.09 | batrick | o well |
| 03:16.56 | Cairenn | it's all good batrick :) |
| 03:17.09 | Cairenn | I'm glad to see anyone saying they got their key, whatever the time |
| 03:17.37 | End | well, I was the second wave |
| 03:17.45 | End | and you sent that like...2 or 3 days ago |
| 03:17.47 | Cairenn | you got yours as well? |
| 03:17.50 | End | yeah |
| 03:17.50 | Cairenn | sent it Monday |
| 03:17.54 | Cairenn | excellent |
| 03:17.58 | End | most excellent |
| 03:18.03 | Seerah | sweet |
| 03:18.53 | cogwheel | ~seen Esamynn |
| 03:18.56 | purl | esamynn <n=chatzill@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Esamynn> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 6d 1h 55m 55s ago, saying: 'haha'. |
| 03:19.12 | End | of course |
| 03:19.20 | cogwheel | hmm... |
| 03:19.40 | End | I happen to raiding right now, and it doesn't seem to run at the same time very well, so all I've done is create an account and copy a character |
| 03:19.45 | End | since I installed a couple days ago |
| 03:20.05 | End | stupid raid! |
| 03:21.03 | Nechckn | cogwheel I believe Esamynn|Away is off this week |
| 03:21.09 | Nechckn | as in, on vacation |
| 03:21.27 | cogwheel | moo... he's the GM so we can't do any promoting or MOTD updates, etc >< |
| 03:21.59 | Nechckn | Ah, gotcha... sorry man |
| 03:22.47 | Lunessa | But hey, at least you get me in /g. |
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| 03:23.21 | p3lim | im stuck, 56 and no quests |
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| 03:25.36 | Nechckn | Hmm.. something new with which to barb Esamynn|Away /weeeee! |
| 03:26.22 | Anaral | Heh. |
| 03:26.25 | Lunessa | p3lim: As a DK in beta? |
| 03:26.32 | Anaral | 40mb of 1.88 gb. |
| 03:26.41 | Anaral | Hmm, don't think I'm playing tonight. |
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| 03:27.52 | p3lim | Lunessa: yep |
| 03:27.57 | Tekkub | 3 more sigs, COME ON PEOPLE |
| 03:27.58 | Guest89547 | \\\nick Shirik |
| 03:28.00 | Guest89547 | omg so much fail |
| 03:28.09 | haste | I couldn't do the orb quest, lulz |
| 03:28.11 | Lunessa | p3lim: The DK starter quests took me to well into 57. |
| 03:28.28 | Guest89547 | Quick question for everyone: Is Shirik online in this channel? |
| 03:28.31 | p3lim | there is one i cant take |
| 03:28.35 | p3lim | the one from the spirit |
| 03:28.39 | ReAn | Tekkub |
| 03:28.40 | p3lim | shes too high up from the ground |
| 03:28.47 | ReAn | installing client atm |
| 03:28.54 | Rabbitbunny | Shirik|AFK: Some guy wants to know about you. |
| 03:28.54 | Lunessa | Try mounting. :P |
| 03:28.55 | Tekkub | FASTER |
| 03:28.55 | haste | Guest89547: yes |
| 03:28.57 | Cairenn | Guest89547: yes |
| 03:29.01 | Guest89547 | (23:27:47) - Nickname 'Shirik' is already in use |
| 03:29.01 | Guest89547 | (23:27:51) - [notice from NickServ]: Shirik is not online. |
| 03:29.03 | Guest89547 | =/ |
| 03:29.04 | Guest89547 | wtf |
| 03:29.13 | ReAn | 18% |
| 03:29.14 | haste | :D |
| 03:29.16 | ReAn | then there's patches |
| 03:29.16 | Guest89547 | I can't ghost it... |
| 03:29.17 | ReAn | :p |
| 03:29.29 | End | maybe some weird netsplit |
| 03:29.38 | Guest89547 | I see him in the channel though |
| 03:29.40 | End | also, the Create Temporary Account button is an important button |
| 03:29.45 | Lunessa | Ok, I'm out for tonight. Need to drive home, get food, etc. |
| 03:29.49 | Anaral | ReAn feel lucky, I'm at 3% |
| 03:29.58 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shirik|Ghost] by ChanServ |
| 03:30.18 | ReAn | Anaral: i'd be done if my guild wasn't wiping on illidumb right now |
| 03:31.40 | Anaral | Well I guess I could just goto bed. I can get up with my husband in 6 hours, which is what the downloader's estimate is at right now. |
| 03:31.57 | Anaral | But I'm like a kid on Christmas, I'm not sure I'll be able to sleep. |
| 03:32.13 | ReAn | Cairenn: Are you taking bets on how long till the "thankyou's" subside and the whinefest from the 2nd batch kicks in? |
| 03:32.23 | Anaral | Lol |
| 03:32.28 | ReAn | i dont even wanna see the thread on thursday next week |
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| 03:32.42 | Duman | need moar sigs |
| 03:32.52 | Cairenn | ReAn: don't think there will be a whinefest from the second batch, since there have been reports of people from that batch having gotten their key today too |
| 03:33.04 | ReAn | ooh, cool |
| 03:33.07 | Anaral | I won't whine, it's beta. I'm there to see everything in it's "unpolished" beauty. |
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| 03:33.33 | Anaral | Ah you meant of those keyless. |
| 03:33.38 | Anaral | Nm |
| 03:33.41 | ReAn | lol |
| 03:33.50 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shirik|Ghost] by ChanServ |
| 03:34.00 | Shirik|Ghost | sigh |
| 03:34.05 | ReAn | hrm? |
| 03:34.12 | ReAn | what's wrong my pink haired gnome? |
| 03:34.20 | Shirik|Ghost | sigh is I can't get Shirik offline |
| 03:34.32 | Tekkub | everyone makes a gnome or tauren DK... |
| 03:34.34 | Anaral | All right, see everyone in the mornings. Shirik I hope you get yourself offline. |
| 03:34.49 | Adys | that wouldnt sound too friendly normally |
| 03:34.58 | ReAn | Tekkub: Mine will be a female orc |
| 03:35.08 | Anaral | I'm making a draenai dk. |
| 03:35.08 | *** join/#wowuidev Orukai (n=darkened@client-82-13-26-148.brhm.adsl.virgin.net) |
| 03:35.16 | ReAn | is the DK starting area flooded? |
| 03:35.42 | Tekkub | dunno but UC isn't NEED 3 MORE SIGS! |
| 03:35.52 | Orukai | ok so im a wow noob.. can i register for here??? =) |
| 03:35.54 | ReAn | 56% |
| 03:36.07 | Shirik|Ghost | Orukai, sorry? I didn't understand |
| 03:36.19 | Orukai | what chat server is this? |
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| 03:36.37 | Orukai | chatspace? |
| 03:36.55 | Anaral | No need to register, just to chat |
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| 03:37.04 | Anaral | ~wowuidev |
| 03:37.07 | Cairenn | Orukai: are you looking for private servers? if so, wrong place completely |
| 03:37.12 | Anaral | okay, thought that would work. |
| 03:37.12 | Orukai | if i register can i keep my name |
| 03:37.14 | Anaral | I fail. |
| 03:37.22 | Cairenn | yes, you can |
| 03:37.26 | Anaral | ~register |
| 03:37.27 | purl | from memory, register is http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration |
| 03:37.27 | ReAn | Orukai |
| 03:37.33 | ReAn | /msg nickserv help |
| 03:37.34 | Orukai | NO PRIVATE SERVERS!! ASSHOLES |
| 03:37.36 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:37.37 | End | yeah, freenode has nickserv |
| 03:38.10 | Rabbitbunny | ...there are children in the room. |
| 03:38.23 | Orukai | ahhhhhh, nickserv..... gimme a mo.. im a usual chatspace user.. |
| 03:38.34 | Orukai | sorry for swear =S |
| 03:38.45 | Cairenn | you were being teased, no worries |
| 03:39.09 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Seerah] by ChanServ |
| 03:39.27 | Tekkub | NO FICKING SMEARING! |
| 03:39.28 | Seerah | yay, all better |
| 03:39.34 | Duman | words |
| 03:39.42 | Tekkub | damnit... stupid qwerty made that finnier than I intended |
| 03:39.50 | Duman | heh |
| 03:39.51 | Tekkub | ... |
| 03:39.55 | Tekkub | fuckit |
| 03:39.56 | Duman | haha |
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| 03:40.22 | Shirik|Ghost2 | oh how I love routers |
| 03:40.35 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shirik|Ghost] by ChanServ |
| 03:40.44 | Orukai | cool..... registered! |
| 03:41.07 | Orukai | i gotta get winamp opened cos its mega late and noone is on TS =( |
| 03:41.54 | ReAn | ew |
| 03:41.58 | ReAn | 54mb |
| 03:41.58 | Orukai | ew? |
| 03:42.18 | ReAn | beta patch |
| 03:42.19 | Orukai | i LOVE winamp!! |
| 03:42.37 | Yssaril | ReAn: thats just the first one i belive |
| 03:42.49 | Orukai | im in taren mill if anyone wants to come on and do stuff? |
| 03:43.10 | ReAn | yea |
| 03:43.13 | Orukai | ask me which server and i will tell you "how do i find out"!! =) |
| 03:43.33 | haste | quodlibet is the only real media player! |
| 03:43.35 | Orukai | sorry for bein a noob... only been playin 3 days |
| 03:43.55 | haste | it's the only one who handles tags correctly at least :p |
| 03:43.59 | Orukai | BUT..... lvl 24 blood elf mage in that time |
| 03:44.25 | Orukai | hope thats ok |
| 03:44.28 | haste | s/media/audio/ :3 |
| 03:45.05 | ReAn | holy shit the beta patcher is violent |
| 03:45.10 | ReAn | VIOLENT |
| 03:45.17 | ReAn | it knocked me right off of wow |
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| 03:45.28 | ReAn | it's walled my connection O.o |
| 03:46.20 | Orukai | what i wanted to ask was... how do you get the stats from an item in the auctiion hous |
| 03:46.40 | Orukai | when i hover it shows nothing |
| 03:46.53 | Rabbitbunny | there are lots of statistics. they all reduce to 42. |
| 03:47.09 | Tekkub | 3 more siggies? /cry |
| 03:47.13 | End | blah |
| 03:47.17 | End | Disconnected from server. |
| 03:47.18 | durcyn | oh hello wowi beta invite |
| 03:47.19 | End | stupid beta! |
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| 03:47.55 | Orukai | im on euro auch.... blah blah something whatever |
| 03:48.07 | Orukai | mabe =S |
| 03:48.10 | Orukai | who knows |
| 03:49.10 | Kemayo | Now to work out how to extract the torrent from the beta downloader |
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| 03:49.36 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
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| 03:51.33 | ReAn | key |
| 03:51.35 | ReAn | it's been done |
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| 03:51.58 | cogwheel | vening Iriel |
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| 03:52.03 | cogwheel | s/v/ev/ |
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| 03:52.19 | Tekkub | Iriel, hop on US PvE and sign guild charter |
| 03:52.22 | Iriel | evening |
| 03:52.27 | Aznamir | WOWI dev beta keys are out |
| 03:52.33 | Shirik|Ghost2 | sigh, now my laptop and desktop are fighting over Shirik |
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| 03:52.39 | Tekkub | *horde |
| 03:52.49 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shirik|AFK] by ChanServ |
| 03:53.19 | ReAn | Kemayo: go to wotlkwiki, it's got the torrent extracted |
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| 03:53.48 | Iriel | Tekkub: Where, exactlly? |
| 03:54.01 | Tekkub | PvE US Horde, msg Cub, Underschitty throne room |
| 03:54.20 | End | well |
| 03:54.24 | End | I fail at creating account |
| 03:54.31 | NeoTron | man |
| 03:54.33 | NeoTron | raid tonight |
| 03:54.42 | ReAn | WOOT |
| 03:54.43 | NeoTron | first time I've really wished it was cancelled :P |
| 03:54.48 | ReAn | WARGLAIVE DROPPED |
| 03:54.52 | NeoTron | grats |
| 03:55.03 | End | NeoTron: haha yeah |
| 03:55.43 | ReAn | hah |
| 03:55.53 | ReAn | dope, that's the 1st Horde-side warglaive on my server |
| 03:55.56 | End | there we go |
| 03:56.51 | Amarande | hmm |
| 03:56.59 | Amarande | when did warlocks start becoming suck for 25-man? |
| 03:57.12 | End | what? |
| 03:57.14 | Amarande | I'm looking at the who list and seeing who's in sunwell on my server right now |
| 03:57.19 | Amarande | and they only bring two warlocks apparently |
| 03:57.30 | Amarande | also only one mage, one rogue and only two pallies |
| 03:58.18 | End | I dunno |
| 03:58.29 | End | you have to really stack classes though |
| 03:58.39 | kd3 | lol @ the ontion... http://www.theonion.com/content/news/citing_poor_conditions_china |
| 03:59.05 | sylvanaar | is there a mod author guild? |
| 03:59.06 | Duman | heh |
| 03:59.06 | Amarande | the only ones they have more than three of are shamans (four) and priests (five) |
| 03:59.08 | Duman | the onion is awesome |
| 03:59.09 | Amarande | the other classes have three each |
| 03:59.18 | Amarande | (yeah, somehow they only have 24 apparently LOL) |
| 03:59.39 | kd3 | sylv; yes. us pve alliance: <Secure Templars>, horde <WTB API PST> |
| 03:59.51 | sylvanaar | pve, kk |
| 04:05.02 | Aznamir | Any idea when the next beta build is going to happen? |
| 04:05.32 | kd3 | neg |
| 04:06.45 | Kirov | Well, that's curious |
| 04:06.48 | End | lol I have two fel armors on |
| 04:07.12 | Aznamir | old from the copy and a new one? they are different spells |
| 04:07.14 | Kirov | local pow = math.pow is twice as fast as local pow = pow |
| 04:07.16 | Aznamir | so it is possible |
| 04:08.11 | p3lim | hahahha |
| 04:08.29 | p3lim | "Heigan is probably performing maintenance on his slime and crap filled studio." |
| 04:08.44 | kd3 | yup. all of those quotes are on noth's article on the wiki |
| 04:09.31 | Kemayo | ReAn: Alas, before I saw your comment I had extracted it with a perl script I had lying around. :D |
| 04:13.32 | End | northrend is pve, right? |
| 04:13.36 | kd3 | yes |
| 04:14.37 | End | hm |
| 04:14.43 | Aznamir | pvt ftw |
| 04:14.43 | End | gnome deathknights lack hair |
| 04:14.48 | End | who can invite on alliance pve? |
| 04:14.51 | Aznamir | pvp is a gank fest |
| 04:14.59 | kd3 | anyone in <Secure Templars> |
| 04:15.09 | Cairenn | cog may be on |
| 04:15.17 | Aznamir | Cog was on 10 minutes ago |
| 04:15.20 | kd3 | I'm on |
| 04:15.30 | End | shoulda who'd you first |
| 04:17.15 | Shirik | any recommendations for easily obtainable (non-bop drop) shoulders for druid tank? |
| 04:19.08 | Aznamir | Shirik: Dragonhawk Shoulderguards of the Monkey ? |
| 04:19.10 | Diao | non-bop.. |
| 04:19.30 | Aznamir | BoE |
| 04:19.34 | End | HI Xinhuan! |
| 04:19.37 | Xinhuan | hi |
| 04:19.39 | End | hi |
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| 04:21.46 | Xuerian | Shirik: One of the best in slot pre-kara are the rep shoulders |
| 04:21.58 | Shirik | who rep? |
| 04:22.14 | Xuerian | Er... Duno? Check atlasloot if you've got it, or wowhead if you don't |
| 04:23.30 | Shirik | heh |
| 04:23.37 | Shirik | well "the rep shoulders" is very generic, but I'll see if I can find it |
| 04:23.53 | Xuerian | Outlands pvp rep shoulders (blue), honored with faction X. |
| 04:24.18 | Xuerian | If you have atlas/atlasloot, they're in the rep pvp set collection if not, greh give me a sec |
| 04:24.43 | Aznamir | KZ rep vendor offers a lether chestpiece |
| 04:24.47 | Aznamir | not shoulders |
| 04:24.59 | Aznamir | Pattern: Shadowprowler's Chestguard |
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| 04:26.42 | Xuerian | Shirik: Shatar - honored - shatar quartermaster |
| 04:27.16 | Shirik | I'll check it out |
| 04:27.23 | Aznamir | s0,5 pvp shoulders |
| 04:27.32 | Xuerian | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35359 |
| 04:28.38 | Shirik | hm |
| 04:28.42 | End | ok |
| 04:28.45 | Shirik | that would also mean I don't have to use +15 resil to chest anymore |
| 04:28.49 | End | I guess I should just worry about one addon at a time... |
| 04:28.56 | End | or find the updated trees |
| 04:30.00 | Shirik | that's very depressing Xuerian |
| 04:30.08 | Shirik | an item with +healing has better stats than what I'm using now |
| 04:30.38 | Xuerian | Shirik: Hey, helps me tank, I don't complain |
| 04:36.06 | cogwheel | hmm... if you define a frame within another frame's <Frames>, does parent= behave nicely? |
| 04:36.37 | Aznamir | worked for me |
| 04:38.47 | |Jelly| | You have been selected to participate in the beta test of World of Warcraft®: Wrath of the Lich Kingâ¢. Welcome! <33333 |
| 04:38.52 | End | hm |
| 04:39.28 | ReAn | Tekkub, you still need signiatures? |
| 04:39.35 | Tekkub | nope got it made |
| 04:40.18 | Duman | sweet |
| 04:40.24 | Duman | you still on horde? |
| 04:40.49 | Duman | grats jelly |
| 04:41.33 | p3lim | Tekkub: you playing on eu or us? |
| 04:41.33 | Tekkub | US |
| 04:41.33 | p3lim | ah ok |
| 04:41.33 | cogwheel | it's peanut butter and |Jelly| time! |
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| 04:46.16 | |Jelly| | What server is everyone on? |
| 04:46.49 | ScytheBlade1 | PvE for the most part |
| 04:47.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Alliance side |
| 04:47.47 | ReAn | Tekkub: What's your ingame name so i can get an invite. |
| 04:47.58 | |Jelly| | I guess I should ask what server is Kamdis' horde on? |
| 04:48.49 | |Jelly| | Eh. I can find that out tomorrow; I don't guess I /have/ to copy characters now? |
| 04:49.18 | sylvanaar | making a dk crashed my client |
| 04:49.30 | End | I'm stuck on logging in to game server! |
| 04:49.30 | ReAn | lol |
| 04:49.39 | ReAn | closing the calendar while hearthing == BAD |
| 04:49.43 | End | lol |
| 04:50.03 | sylvanaar | me too |
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| 04:50.45 | End | yay it works again |
| 04:50.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Whisper Sbo, Kaydeethree, or Dumandk for ginvites atm |
| 04:51.20 | Tekkub | <deep voice guy> A hero, that's what you once were... but now you're just a total noob |
| 04:51.58 | End | haha |
| 04:52.50 | Amarande | Say, did they get rid of the whole 'caster pet' problem with WOTLK? |
| 04:57.35 | ReAn | wow |
| 04:57.40 | ReAn | WOTLK crashed my computer |
| 04:57.48 | ReAn | admitedly it had a helping hand |
| 04:57.52 | ReAn | my computer is running vista |
| 04:57.53 | ReAn | but still |
| 04:57.56 | ReAn | that's impressive |
| 05:01.28 | Thelyna | Tekkub: do you have someone working on alliance-side tourguides for wotlk? |
| 05:01.57 | Tekkub | I will not be releasing wrath guides till some time after release |
| 05:02.35 | Tekkub | I have a recorder addon you can run and send me you savedvars if you like |
| 05:04.05 | ReAn | tekkub |
| 05:04.14 | ReAn | what's your ingame nick, i wanna snag an invite |
| 05:04.17 | Duman | ooh, crash |
| 05:04.32 | Duman | hmm |
| 05:04.33 | Duman | CMapChunk::CreateIndices() called with lod != CWorld::lodMax. |
| 05:04.34 | Tekkub | I'm not in game, just /who g-WTB |
| 05:04.35 | Duman | rad |
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| 05:04.44 | ReAn | ah, the guild is WTB? |
| 05:04.50 | Tekkub | WTB API PST |
| 05:04.54 | kagaro | anyone have a direct download to the beta client? |
| 05:04.55 | tuxeh- | Did you guys get your invites too? |
| 05:05.16 | kagaro | i got mine |
| 05:05.31 | kagaro | hotel wireless is ass tough and i dont have the beta on my lptop |
| 05:05.46 | tuxeh- | Seems Cairenn was right :> Thursdag night\Friday |
| 05:06.02 | Cairenn | funny that, huh? |
| 05:06.08 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 05:06.33 | ReAn | wow |
| 05:06.38 | ReAn | game crash every time :( |
| 05:06.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, it's kinda weird |
| 05:06.39 | ScytheBlade1 | o_0 |
| 05:07.24 | ReAn | i jsut got an odd error |
| 05:07.43 | ReAn | "Your account is authorized for Burning Crusade Expansion but it does not contain any Burning Crusade Data" |
| 05:08.00 | End | lol |
| 05:08.08 | End | submit a bug report :P |
| 05:08.13 | ReAn | i cant! |
| 05:08.17 | ReAn | i can't log in now! |
| 05:08.25 | End | beta forums? |
| 05:08.41 | Cairenn | yes you can: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?sid=2000&forumId=7573590 |
| 05:08.47 | Cairenn | as End suggested ;) |
| 05:08.48 | ReAn | it's prolly cuz im copy-pasta'ing to my laptop |
| 05:08.57 | ReAn | perhaps it cannot read expansion.mpq |
| 05:11.36 | ReAn | so yea, i uninstalled AoC to put the beta on my laptop :p |
| 05:11.48 | End | lol |
| 05:13.47 | ReAn | the new loading screens make me grin |
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| 05:14.51 | ReAn | HAHA |
| 05:14.52 | ReAn | yes! |
| 05:15.01 | ReAn | you right-click your mount and you "Learn" it |
| 05:15.06 | End | yeah |
| 05:15.13 | End | I probably free a TON of slots |
| 05:15.19 | End | with the new pet/mount stuff |
| 05:15.57 | ReAn | hrm |
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| 05:19.27 | Sixen | "You are not allowed to post in this station." |
| 05:19.27 | Sixen | QQ. |
| 05:20.17 | p3lim | hm im on the final event at Light's Hope Chapel |
| 05:20.20 | p3lim | but its bugged |
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| 05:21.46 | Tekkub | relog and you'll hopefully get an unstarted instance |
| 05:22.30 | Xinhuan | Cairenn, can i pester you to promote me (in pve alliance beta), so i can ginvite ;p |
| 05:22.41 | Cairenn | can't, not GL |
| 05:22.45 | Cairenn | sorry |
| 05:22.45 | Xinhuan | appears that everyone is PMing me for ginvites for some reason! |
| 05:22.57 | Xinhuan | aww dang |
| 05:22.59 | Cairenn | but I can hop on |
| 05:23.05 | Xinhuan | nah its fine |
| 05:23.10 | Xinhuan | i just end up relaying |
| 05:23.16 | Xinhuan | which is annoying |
| 05:23.37 | ReAn | tekkub just made everyone able to invite in the horde one |
| 05:23.41 | Cairenn | well, hopefully when they see my name on a /who g, they'll poke me, too |
| 05:23.45 | batrick | who is running horde pvp? |
| 05:23.47 | Tekkub | that's cause I'm better |
| 05:23.48 | batrick | or is anyone? |
| 05:23.52 | ReAn | Tekkub |
| 05:23.57 | ReAn | bat, you want an invite? |
| 05:24.11 | batrick | I will once i get beta done downloading |
| 05:24.17 | Cairenn | ReAn: the current GL on Alliance isn't avail atm, so ... |
| 05:24.20 | ReAn | ill be on all night |
| 05:24.23 | ReAn | ah |
| 05:24.33 | Xinhuan | oh its Esamynn|Away |
| 05:24.48 | Cairenn | yup |
| 05:24.48 | Xinhuan | just gotta stab him ;p |
| 05:24.55 | Kirov | ping Iriel |
| 05:24.55 | Cairenn | who is, we think, on vacation this week |
| 05:24.56 | ReAn | hrm, should i level elemental or enhance? |
| 05:25.02 | ReAn | this is mildly perplexing |
| 05:25.05 | Iriel | yessir? |
| 05:25.06 | Hey-WTF | enhance |
| 05:25.08 | Xinhuan | enhance |
| 05:25.08 | Beladona | enhance |
| 05:25.12 | Beladona | you wont regret it |
| 05:25.12 | ReAn | ive got a full epic set for all 3 |
| 05:25.16 | cogwheel | Sixen: yeah, it's annoying... |
| 05:25.16 | End | resto! |
| 05:25.17 | Hey-WTF | enhance |
| 05:25.18 | ReAn | really? |
| 05:25.21 | Kirov | Iriel - I came across an oddity when doing some performance tests |
| 05:25.24 | Hey-WTF | elemental is painful to level |
| 05:25.25 | Beladona | enhancement is fun |
| 05:25.27 | Beladona | truly fun |
| 05:25.27 | Xinhuan | ^ |
| 05:25.29 | Hey-WTF | pushback = ftl |
| 05:25.29 | Iriel | What would that be? |
| 05:25.39 | ReAn | Hey-WTF: How'd they break it? it was hella fun in |
| 05:25.40 | ReAn | TBC |
| 05:25.46 | Sixen | =/ |
| 05:25.54 | Sixen | cog: =/ |
| 05:25.55 | Kirov | Iriel - when making locals of math.pow vs. the global pow, I found the math.pow was 2x faster |
| 05:26.15 | Iriel | Kirov: Which client? |
| 05:26.19 | Kirov | 2.4 |
| 05:26.42 | Kirov | I'm not on the beta yet |
| 05:26.42 | Iriel | That's odd.. I dont see a global pow defined by the client |
| 05:26.49 | Iriel | Let me check |
| 05:26.59 | Iriel | In the meantime, can you string.dump the global one? |
| 05:26.59 | End | the suspence deepens! |
| 05:27.23 | Iriel | (firing up my 2.4 client) |
| 05:28.11 | Iriel | Yeah, pow isn't a standard global |
| 05:28.17 | Iriel | My guess is one of your AddOns defines it, in lua |
| 05:28.19 | Kirov | not actually logged in at the moment. |
| 05:28.52 | NeoTron | and.. we have to call SWP raid due to insufficient DPS for M'uru :( |
| 05:29.03 | NeoTron | two warlocks, 1 rogue, 2 enhance shammies missing today.. and 1 shadow priest |
| 05:29.27 | NeoTron | and our two DPS warriors are gone - one got hacked (and most likely with a bought account so can't get it back) ,the other just transferred off |
| 05:29.33 | Tekkub | okey, first batch of wrath updates for my shit pushed :) |
| 05:29.43 | ReAn | im 10 minutes into beta, already 16 bug reports and 4 suggestions O.o |
| 05:29.53 | p3lim | thanks for the tip Tekkub |
| 05:30.06 | p3lim | actually worked |
| 05:30.16 | Tekkub | p3lim, hopefully they fix that so you never join a started instance |
| 05:30.30 | Iriel | ReAn: In fairness it's a slightly old and rather wonky build 8-) |
| 05:30.30 | p3lim | :) |
| 05:30.37 | p3lim | Btw, do I need a party for that final quesT? |
| 05:31.30 | Iriel | no |
| 05:31.40 | Iriel | you just have to wait in the right place for the start |
| 05:31.46 | Iriel | (Unless they changed it since I last did it) |
| 05:31.59 | ReAn | Iriel: im just doing my job really |
| 05:32.01 | End | hm |
| 05:32.03 | p3lim | says '5 minutes until the battle for Light's Hope Chapel begins!' |
| 05:32.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Stand there |
| 05:32.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Wait 5 minutes ;) |
| 05:32.16 | p3lim | ok |
| 05:32.16 | End | bugs to report! |
| 05:32.35 | p3lim | tauren DK with 2nd shoulders looks sick :p |
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| 05:33.13 | p3lim | and I liked the new possessbar, it lets you really know (if youre using default ui that is) |
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| 05:35.21 | Lonny` | Just checked my mail and I got the beta key :) |
| 05:36.32 | Lonny` | Now I just need to know the names of the UI guilds for WoW-Eu :P |
| 05:36.50 | Lonny` | :( |
| 05:38.32 | ReAn | NO!!! |
| 05:38.36 | ReAn | THEY BROKE IT :( |
| 05:38.42 | ReAn | they broke my chain heal hax |
| 05:38.45 | ReAn | *sigh* |
| 05:42.44 | ReAn | woo |
| 05:42.46 | ReAn | flying spiders |
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| 05:46.24 | cladhaire | yay for beta invites going out finally, lol |
| 05:46.26 | cladhaire | :P |
| 05:47.23 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 05:47.57 | Lonny` | It's about time :) |
| 05:49.11 | Cairenn | :) |
| 05:49.20 | End | :) |
| 05:49.29 | End | sorry, had to be part of the moment. :) |
| 05:49.43 | Wobin | :) |
| 05:50.13 | Lonny` | Clad I seen you posting on the eu forums recently, and I wonder if you know anything about the UI guilds there (if any) ? |
| 05:50.54 | nevcairiel | now can we finally create a author guild on EU-Alliance? =P |
| 05:51.11 | Lonny` | Alliance :P |
| 05:51.45 | Lonny` | How about horde :D |
| 05:51.58 | nevcairiel | who cares about horde, srsly |
| 05:52.51 | nevcairiel | j/k .. anyway, we still need a guild =P |
| 05:52.51 | Kirov | Iriel - You're right, there's no global pow. I think it was math.abs that I was seeing being twice as fast, and they're the same tostring |
| 05:53.01 | Lonny` | Yeah :) |
| 05:53.07 | p3lim | when im done in the DK starting area, Im off to Outland, right? |
| 05:53.30 | Iriel | p3lim: you're probably only 56/57, so no.. EPL for you |
| 05:53.33 | Kirov | I was testing if math.abs( math.cos( math.asin( 0.5 ) ) ) was faster than math.sqrt( 1 - math.pow( 0.5, 2 ) ) |
| 05:53.52 | p3lim | im 58 |
| 05:53.58 | nevcairiel | oo Iriel is here, now i can bug him, Iriel is it with the current beta build possible at all for the childs of a new state header to know its headers state, or even inherit it? |
| 05:54.01 | Iriel | Have you tried ^ ? |
| 05:54.01 | End | unless you get the triple xp thing *wink* |
| 05:54.17 | End | granted, doesn't work on beta |
| 05:54.19 | p3lim | Iriel: Im 58, done all the quests etc |
| 05:54.23 | Iriel | nevcairiel: 'state' doesn't really exist in the old way anymore. |
| 05:54.29 | Iriel | p3lim: ah, they've improved it then. neat |
| 05:54.35 | p3lim | :) |
| 05:54.57 | Iriel | nevcairiel: are these children just regular protected frames or are they themselves state headers? |
| 05:55.12 | nevcairiel | secureactionbutton |
| 05:55.23 | nevcairiel | so regular protected |
| 05:55.26 | Iriel | ok, well any handlers which run on the children have access to the global state of the header |
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| 05:55.34 | Iriel | i.e. any _childupdate snippets |
| 05:55.46 | nevcairiel | so essentially i save that in a global var, and i can access it? |
| 05:56.02 | Iriel | the header sticks values into a 'global' variable, and yeah, you can access them |
| 05:56.17 | Iriel | (This gets progressively easier in future builds) |
| 05:57.05 | Lonny` | The weird thing is that I got the RA3 beta key at the same time hmm :P |
| 05:57.27 | NeoTron | hmm I should get some addons going in my beta |
| 05:58.20 | Xinhuan | if i just copy my WTF folder over |
| 05:58.25 | Xinhuan | do the macros get copied over? |
| 05:58.29 | Xinhuan | since they are supposedly server side now |
| 05:58.55 | Tekkub | if they are there at login they're copied over, yes |
| 05:59.05 | Tekkub | I think it renamed the file too |
| 05:59.40 | Xinhuan | ok, i'll poke around, it'll probably take a day or two to see what's working, and what's not |
| 06:00.29 | NeoTron | does xperl work on beta? |
| 06:01.10 | Xinhuan | no idea |
| 06:01.31 | Xinhuan | i'll probably be copying over 5 addons by 5 addons and seeing how they work, or not work |
| 06:02.12 | Tekkub | I've run into few issues |
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| 06:04.16 | Iriel | Anything that uses secure state headers needs to be updated, of course |
| 06:04.38 | Tekkub | Yea Iriel, WTB more examples :) |
| 06:04.43 | NeoTron | how about tinytip? |
| 06:04.44 | Tekkub | I still need to poke at that |
| 06:04.47 | Iriel | Tekkub: I'm working on a 'field guide' |
| 06:05.11 | Tekkub | I'll give you a kitten if you work hard faster deeper oh daddy |
| 06:05.23 | Tekkub | *harder |
| 06:06.18 | Iriel | Tekkub: I'm sorta waiting for the next beta patch before I can complete some parts of it (and even then it's subject to ongoing change).. but i'll add your note of support.. I'm all full up on kittens tho. |
| 06:06.35 | nevcairiel | mm |
| 06:06.45 | Tekkub | TAKE THE KITTEN |
| 06:06.46 | nevcairiel | I still fail to tell my child frames to update their state |
| 06:06.51 | Shirik | do mobs have a base chance to miss? |
| 06:06.52 | nevcairiel | apparently its not saving my data in _G |
| 06:06.53 | Shirik | Or is it only defense? |
| 06:07.03 | Iriel | nevcairiel: can you pastey your code? |
| 06:07.04 | nevcairiel | Shirik: they miss too |
| 06:07.08 | Shirik | know the chance? |
| 06:07.11 | Tekkub | actually, mind tossing out a draft of what you've got so far? |
| 06:07.21 | Tekkub | every little bit makes it easier on me |
| 06:07.41 | nevcairiel | Iriel: i tried to integrate it into BT4, but let me see if i can strip it out |
| 06:08.52 | Cairenn | :) |
| 06:09.31 | bleeter | I'll see you guys all Ally PvE, Horde PvP in a few hours |
| 06:09.38 | Cairenn | :) |
| 06:09.49 | bleeter | gotta get hold of Adys to give up my desired DK names (he reserved them for me) before I roll the DK tho |
| 06:10.02 | Iriel | ***IMPORTANT: This is all subject to change, and isn't finished *** http://www.cheeseplant.org/~daniel/doc/secheaders/SecureHeadersGuide%20-%20draft1.pdf |
| 06:10.05 | Cairenn | ummm, no idea if there is a horde pvp guild |
| 06:10.21 | Cairenn | the only guilds I know of are all pve |
| 06:10.37 | bleeter | Cairenn: fair enough, was just giving warning ;) |
| 06:11.09 | Cairenn | :) |
| 06:11.10 | Iriel | Specifically the 'frame handles' aren't in the current beta build, and the childupdate/childmessage/animate stuff is probably changing |
| 06:11.39 | nevcairiel | TODO describe the child update propagation and standard arguments here so |
| 06:11.39 | nevcairiel | I dont have to keep repeating it. |
| 06:11.41 | nevcairiel | damn you =P |
| 06:12.00 | Xinhuan | no bt4 for j00 nevcairiel! |
| 06:12.11 | Iriel | nevcairiel: I described them in the one above, a bit 8-) |
| 06:12.14 | Iriel | But only a bit |
| 06:12.36 | nevcairiel | Iriel: http://ace.pastey.net/93310 thats what i tried, and some other, all i need is the child to know the state that was set by the header <.< |
| 06:12.42 | Shirik | To: Me |
| 06:12.43 | Iriel | Basically today if you return a string as "childupdate", then it'll try and call _childupdate-<string> as a snippet on each child |
| 06:12.47 | Shirik | Subject: Blizzard Account Email Verification - Action Required |
| 06:13.03 | Shirik | it then proceeds to tell me nothing about the action which is required |
| 06:13.05 | Iriel | nevcairiel: ah, you're mising concepts a little |
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| 06:13.34 | Iriel | Plus you dont need to use _G, you can just do newBTState = newstate; |
| 06:13.38 | Iriel | unless you really LIKE _G |
| 06:13.50 | nevcairiel | yeah i tried it before, and figured i might try that too |
| 06:13.51 | Iriel | I mean, I wont stop you doing that, but it's slower that way (2 global references, instead of 1) |
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| 06:14.31 | AlexanderYoshi | hi |
| 06:14.38 | Xinhuan | hi |
| 06:14.48 | bleeter | FLEE |
| 06:14.49 | AlexanderYoshi | Hey xin |
| 06:14.55 | Xinhuan | been a long time since you showed up, buddy! |
| 06:14.59 | Iriel | I'm fairly sure that your metatable sets on the frames will break the secure header by tainting the frames |
| 06:15.14 | nevcairiel | oh noes :( |
| 06:15.33 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: so nice to ahve bartender. thanks :P |
| 06:15.39 | AlexanderYoshi | Yep |
| 06:15.41 | Iriel | I'm not sure there's an easy way around that |
| 06:15.43 | AlexanderYoshi | I dropped into guild chat recently |
| 06:15.46 | Iriel | at the moment |
| 06:15.48 | Xinhuan | u did? |
| 06:15.56 | Iriel | how necessary is Button_MT as a metatable? |
| 06:16.07 | Xinhuan | ah last online, 5 days |
| 06:16.13 | Iriel | Actually, you may be able to get away with it UNTIL the next build, but there's a trick later, so dont fret |
| 06:16.28 | nevcairiel | i would be happy if it works out of combat for now |
| 06:17.02 | Iriel | nevcairiel: yyour problem is that _adopt doesn't reparent |
| 06:17.11 | AlexanderYoshi | Hi Kaydeethree |
| 06:17.15 | Iriel | nevcairiel: make button's parent "bar" not "parent" |
| 06:17.24 | nevcairiel | parent is bar |
| 06:17.27 | NeoTron | any working one bad mod? |
| 06:17.35 | Iriel | you must have missed that bit off the code you pasted then |
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| 06:18.19 | Xinhuan | ok, so many things to do, so little time |
| 06:18.47 | Iriel | nevcairiel: is it setting the attribute correctly on the parent? |
| 06:19.09 | nevcairiel | Iriel: ya, :GetAttribute says its there |
| 06:19.26 | Iriel | And do you get an erro from the child, or does it just freak out and die? |
| 06:19.39 | nevcairiel | it doesnt do anything |
| 06:19.57 | nevcairiel | I wish i could add debug printing to ChatFrame1 to the loadstring code =P |
| 06:20.08 | AlexanderYoshi | yeah, I hear you |
| 06:20.14 | Iriel | Can you remove your setmetatables briefly? |
| 06:20.16 | AlexanderYoshi | i'm blitzing to get stuff done now |
| 06:20.19 | AlexanderYoshi | been in a lurch for a while |
| 06:20.26 | kd3 | 'lo |
| 06:20.26 | AlexanderYoshi | lots of talking; less doing |
| 06:20.29 | Iriel | nevcairiel: I added code for that but blizzard didn't keep up 8-( |
| 06:21.38 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 06:21.45 | nevcairiel | :IsProtected returns nil on my button |
| 06:21.48 | nevcairiel | thats why its never called |
| 06:22.28 | nevcairiel | still nil after removing my metatable |
| 06:22.33 | Iriel | How did you manage that!?!? |
| 06:23.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow. I've never seen Iriel use that much puctuation at the end of a line, _ever_ |
| 06:23.44 | ScytheBlade1 | ~praise nevcairiel |
| 06:23.45 | purl | All hail nevcairiel! |
| 06:23.45 | Aiiane | lua> nevcairiel:IsSane() |
| 06:23.45 | lua_bot | Aiiane: luabot:1: attempt to index global 'nevcairiel' (a nil value) |
| 06:23.46 | NeoTron | well buttonbin seems to work |
| 06:23.53 | Aiiane | ^ obviously, because nevcairiel is nil |
| 06:24.01 | NeoTron | but not fubar2broker so I don't see buggrabber |
| 06:24.05 | Ackis | Aiiane: you can say that again |
| 06:24.16 | Aiiane | ^ obviously, because nevcairiel is nil |
| 06:24.20 | Aiiane | that good, Ackis? |
| 06:24.21 | Ackis | win |
| 06:24.22 | Ackis | yes |
| 06:24.33 | nevcairiel | I'm trying to find out where it drops its protected state |
| 06:24.41 | NeoTron | ah might be bc I forgot ace2 >:-) |
| 06:24.48 | Iriel | That shouldn't even be possible |
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| 06:28.39 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 06:29.17 | nevcairiel | Its still protected, i got confused with my buttons |
| 06:29.30 | nevcairiel | its still not receiving its state, though |
| 06:30.27 | Iriel | Can yous tick a self:SetAtrribute("hello", "world") in there |
| 06:30.33 | Iriel | just to be sure that it's even firing |
| 06:31.33 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 06:31.49 | nevcairiel | ya its in there |
| 06:32.24 | Iriel | I'm not sure I understand how this is working then.. unless.. hm |
| 06:32.25 | nevcairiel | oh well i'll just wait for the next push, this seems like a hack anyway :) |
| 06:34.38 | NeoTron | Hmm button:SetTextFontObject changed? |
| 06:35.13 | nevcairiel | its now SetDefaultFontObject |
| 06:35.14 | nevcairiel | iirc |
| 06:35.40 | Tekkub | no, Normal |
| 06:35.43 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 06:35.45 | Duman | weird |
| 06:35.45 | nevcairiel | yeah normal |
| 06:35.54 | Duman | I jsut totally lost network route to at&t |
| 06:36.09 | NeoTron | cool cool |
| 06:36.20 | NeoTron | magic targets seems to work with that fix to libbars.. |
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| 07:22.15 | leethal | will wowinterface.com/beta.php give some sort of feedback when the "ticket" has been sent to blizz? |
| 07:24.03 | Cairenn | leethal: I have been posting that in the threads |
| 07:24.36 | leethal | oh, ok |
| 07:24.37 | Cairenn | everything up to 591 has been sent |
| 07:24.37 | ReAn | Cairenn |
| 07:24.46 | Cairenn | anything after that will go next week |
| 07:24.52 | Cairenn | ReAn: ? |
| 07:24.53 | ReAn | can you add my priestie to the guild on alliance? |
| 07:24.56 | Thunder_Child | but Cairenn, i'm 289748923189724291873148972 when will that go? |
| 07:26.02 | Cairenn | ReAn: I'm not in game right now, and actually having a bit of a problem with my installation so I'm actually re-downloading and re-installing |
| 07:26.25 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: in the year 25374 |
| 07:26.35 | ReAn | what's the guild name? |
| 07:26.36 | Thunder_Child | ouch |
| 07:26.41 | Thunder_Child | secure templars |
| 07:26.49 | Cairenn | ReAn: ^^ |
| 07:27.51 | Thunder_Child | ReAn, you in? |
| 07:29.22 | Xinhuan | the 8th person just pestered me for ginvites |
| 07:29.40 | Cairenn | sowwy |
| 07:29.48 | leethal | the most important thing: Do you have a tabard??? |
| 07:30.08 | Cairenn | actually, I don't think we've designed one |
| 07:30.15 | Cairenn | I haven't been in enough to know :p |
| 07:30.17 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, Xinhuan is being mean to me |
| 07:30.26 | Xinhuan | yes, bugger off ;p |
| 07:30.37 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 07:30.37 | Cairenn | boys, settle down back there - don't make me turn this beta around |
| 07:30.42 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 07:30.48 | ReAn | yea |
| 07:30.53 | ReAn | Unkle invited me |
| 07:30.55 | Xinhuan | now i just need to juggle 6 conversations hehe |
| 07:31.02 | Thunder_Child | i dare you Cairenn. |
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| 07:38.07 | Vilkku | thank you WoWInterface, and most of all Cairenn, for this opportunity ;) Sorry for being inpatient :D |
| 07:38.17 | Cairenn | you're welcome :) |
| 07:38.47 | Vilkku | the mail looks a bit dodgy tho :P |
| 07:38.56 | Vilkku | but sender, the url etc are all real |
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| 07:40.17 | Cairenn | as long as it sends you to beta.worldofwarcraft.com , it's legit |
| 07:40.33 | Cairenn | hell, type it in yourself |
| 07:40.40 | kd3 | ^ |
| 07:40.56 | Cairenn | :) |
| 07:41.05 | Kirov | beta.worldofwarcraft.keyloggers.r.us - probably not legit |
| 07:41.10 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 07:41.31 | cladhaire | I think we need an image from kd3 about what is and isn't legit :P |
| 07:41.33 | Thunder_Child | however beta.worldofwarcraft.kirovwantsyourkeys.com is fine |
| 07:41.47 | kd3 | lol, maybe when I wake up |
| 07:41.49 | cladhaire | since inevitably those who can't find the stickies will have this issue |
| 07:42.02 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 07:42.25 | Kirov | I've entered every bit of information I have, including credit card info, social security numbers, even faxed my birth certificate, and that site still won't let me in to the beta... so I'm starting to think there's something fishy |
| 07:42.38 | Cairenn | I'm just so glad to have everyone happy today, instead of the bitching moaning & griping that was going on over the last couple days |
| 07:42.59 | Tekkub | I was trying to say withing "whining" |
| 07:43.05 | Tekkub | *within |
| 07:43.05 | batrick | I admit to being a member of the bitching and moaning community |
| 07:43.21 | batrick | we did wait 3 weeks :) |
| 07:43.28 | Cairenn | no you didn't |
| 07:43.36 | cladhaire | lol |
| 07:43.37 | |Jelly| | I admit to being a member of the passive-aggressive towards Lunessa brigade. :P |
| 07:43.37 | batrick | or is ti 2? |
| 07:43.39 | cladhaire | hardly |
| 07:43.45 | zenzio | moaning is not necessarily a bad thing |
| 07:43.47 | Cairenn | not even 2 since I sent in the first batch of names |
| 07:43.53 | batrick | well |
| 07:43.54 | Kirov | batrick - I still haven't gotten my key, so you shouldn't complain! |
| 07:44.01 | Tekkub | there was the week before the batch was sent :P |
| 07:44.01 | Cairenn | next monday = 2 weeks since first batch |
| 07:44.03 | Kirov | granted, I didn't sign up for one ... |
| 07:44.06 | batrick | ... if you include time waiting for you to send the names ... :) |
| 07:44.12 | cladhaire | Kirov: but you're keylogged everyone elses, so |
| 07:44.13 | Cairenn | oh bite me :p |
| 07:44.32 | Kirov | cladhaire - shh! |
| 07:44.40 | batrick | plus |
| 07:44.41 | zenzio | Cairenn, you teaste |
| 07:44.47 | batrick | Cairenn eated our beta keys |
| 07:44.48 | zenzio | wow, spelling = fail |
| 07:44.50 | batrick | which made it take longer |
| 07:45.04 | cladhaire | tease, when have you known me to NOT put out? |
| 07:45.32 | Kirov | ooo! ooo! ask Cairenn for "the photo" |
| 07:45.37 | Cairenn | NO |
| 07:45.46 | batrick | yes! |
| 07:45.57 | leethal | "the photo", hmm. |
| 07:46.04 | Thunder_Child | oh yes, the photo |
| 07:46.05 | zenzio | the famous Blizzcon picture? |
| 07:46.30 | Cairenn | >< |
| 07:46.33 | Thunder_Child | i has it bookmarked for Cairenn's enjoyment |
| 07:46.44 | Cairenn | I hate you all |
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| 07:46.51 | zenzio | lol |
| 07:47.06 | zenzio | I guess someone will be trying to be careful around cameras this time around |
| 07:47.12 | Thunder_Child | not even |
| 07:47.20 | Thunder_Child | i'm tag teaming with iriel |
| 07:47.26 | kd3 | there's how many of us going? and we're probably all going to have cameras this time? |
| 07:47.30 | leethal | hey, this is the internet! You can't just mention something called "the photo" and not link to it. |
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| 07:47.39 | kd3 | >.> |
| 07:47.46 | Daedals | OMGASDASD! |
| 07:47.46 | Cairenn | really, truly, hate |
| 07:47.49 | zenzio | leethal: you really don't know what we're talking about? |
| 07:47.49 | Thunder_Child | kd3. a lot of us |
| 07:47.58 | leethal | zenzio: not a clue |
| 07:48.01 | zenzio | O_O |
| 07:48.06 | Daedals | :D |
| 07:48.06 | leethal | haven't been on this part of the internet for a while |
| 07:48.10 | Thunder_Child | here, Cairenn can hate me |
| 07:48.11 | Thunder_Child | http://www.flickr.com/photos/tierrie/1023663909/in/set-72157601245280162/ |
| 07:48.25 | Thunder_Child | hate me more* |
| 07:48.27 | |Jelly| | rofl ... you beat me by about 2 seconds |
| 07:48.49 | batrick | lolol |
| 07:49.00 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:49.34 | pb_ee1 | So much love this mornin... hey wait, I already said that on another channel |
| 07:49.55 | cladhaire | Cairenn: don't growl at him, its bound to turn him on. |
| 07:50.02 | Cairenn | tru dat |
| 07:50.09 | Thunder_Child | agreed cladhaire |
| 07:50.13 | Maldivia | *yawn* morning |
| 07:50.18 | cladhaire | hrm.. /auc getall at 1800 latency... bas idea |
| 07:50.28 | Kirov | Note for the viewers at home, also in that album is a photo of cladhaire and slouken |
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| 07:50.53 | zenzio | isn't there a picture there of just about everyone? |
| 07:50.59 | Cairenn | yes |
| 07:51.12 | kd3 | http://www.flickr.com/photos/tierrie/1023646461/in/set-72157601245280162/ |
| 07:51.14 | kd3 | that one |
| 07:51.34 | Thunder_Child | there is also http://blizzcon2007.norganna.org/main.php |
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| 07:51.49 | cladhaire | i'm so sad/mad that i'm missing blizzcon this year |
| 07:51.49 | kd3 | of course, that took a few people getting a certain someone out from behind that glass wall |
| 07:51.53 | cncfanatics | WÃ Ã Ã Ã Ã Ã |
| 07:52.04 | cncfanatics | beta inv !! |
| 07:52.15 | Cairenn | cncfanatics: yay |
| 07:52.26 | Tekkub | I want to go to BC, but doubt I'll ever mork it out |
| 07:52.27 | Kirov | Maybe someday I'll actually take the time to go to blizzcon. |
| 07:52.30 | cncfanatics | Cairenn: are those the authors key or did those not get sent yet ? |
| 07:52.30 | Tekkub | money sucks |
| 07:52.38 | Cairenn | they got sent :) |
| 07:52.39 | Tekkub | they is |
| 07:52.44 | Daedals | :) |
| 07:52.46 | cladhaire | you know.. sometimes you have to be willing to go into the women's bathroom to drag friends who are hiding out into th eopen. |
| 07:52.56 | Daedals | but it takes a day to copy a character :P bah |
| 07:53.03 | Tekkub | day my ass |
| 07:53.06 | cladhaire | who needs to copy a character |
| 07:53.12 | Daedals | me :D |
| 07:53.19 | Tekkub | anyone that wants to make a DK! :P |
| 07:53.21 | cladhaire | the first thinhg you should be doing is locking yourself in a room for 3 hours, and running through the DK quests |
| 07:53.26 | kd3 | ^ |
| 07:53.31 | cladhaire | that should be your absolute first priority |
| 07:53.35 | kd3 | oh very much that^ |
| 07:53.37 | Daedals | :) maybe :D |
| 07:53.55 | cladhaire | there is no "maybe", only "yes cladhaire" |
| 07:54.18 | Thunder_Child | it doesnt not take 3 hours to do the DK quest line |
| 07:54.32 | Thunder_Child | s/doesnt/does/ |
| 07:54.32 | cladhaire | double negatives much? |
| 07:54.36 | pb_ee1 | New wave of invites for the beta starting it seems |
| 07:54.38 | cladhaire | yes it does |
| 07:54.40 | Thunder_Child | hah, beat you |
| 07:54.42 | cladhaire | if you read them all |
| 07:54.44 | cladhaire | and enjoy the scenes |
| 07:54.51 | Thunder_Child | pfft read, i can do that for life |
| 07:54.54 | Thunder_Child | live* |
| 07:55.24 | Daedals | does it take a while for the account upgrade to be processed, or can I log in right away? |
| 07:55.31 | cladhaire | well thats the whole point of doing it, nublet |
| 07:55.39 | kd3 | as soon as your temp account gets created, use it to log in to the beta |
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| 07:55.49 | cladhaire | Daedals: you have to make a blizzard account |
| 07:55.49 | cladhaire | but you can do that immediately |
| 07:56.07 | Daedals | hmm? okay |
| 07:56.22 | cladhaire | i.e. read the instructions and follow them |
| 07:56.25 | cladhaire | or i'll RTFM your face. |
| 07:56.32 | Daedals | :) |
| 07:56.52 | cladhaire | aaw |
| 07:56.57 | cladhaire | I lost a bunch of my alpha videos |
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| 07:57.07 | Cairenn | cladhaire: awww |
| 07:57.14 | cladhaire | i.e. of how imba deathchill, hungering cold and howling blast was |
| 07:57.34 | cladhaire | I could one-shot a group of 20 level 62 mobs |
| 07:57.41 | cladhaire | once every minute |
| 07:57.58 | pb_ee1 | Never used, you mean :p |
| 07:58.03 | Cairenn | nope |
| 07:58.40 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: for both dinner & disney? |
| 07:58.54 | Elkano | first reaction of a guild mate when I told him I had my key: "put it on eBay... they are worth a bunch currently" :/ |
| 07:59.04 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, oh ya....just dinner, will edit |
| 07:59.13 | Cairenn | k |
| 08:00.18 | cncfanatics | copying me 4 70s over |
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| 08:00.48 | Elkano | ok, just checked ebay... they are going out for over 100â¬... do I have to tell I hate such people? |
| 08:01.40 | Mery | hmm somehow i could only find the blizzcon cards... |
| 08:01.56 | zenzio | Elkano: I know, it's worth at least â¬250 |
| 08:01.56 | zenzio | ;) |
| 08:02.25 | Cairenn | I've heard of them going for $1k+ US |
| 08:02.34 | Cairenn | I just don't understand that ... |
| 08:02.47 | Maldivia | insane that people want to pay that much for a beta key... |
| 08:02.59 | Daedals | and its insane that I don't get this |
| 08:03.08 | Cairenn | a CE or really special card or something, sure, maybe, because you've got something tangible ... but a beta key? |
| 08:03.12 | Daedals | you are talking about "Blizzard accoutn" |
| 08:03.29 | Daedals | and I can't find any directions about how to make one |
| 08:03.40 | Cairenn | Daedals: people are paying $1k+ for WotLK Beta keys on eBay is what we're talkinga bout |
| 08:03.46 | zenzio | Cairenn: maybe they come with a special "I ebayed into the beta" achievement |
| 08:03.49 | Maldivia | Daedals: follow the instructions on beta.worldofwarcraft.com - it's step 3 |
| 08:03.55 | Daedals | no I didnt mean that |
| 08:03.56 | cncfanatics | anyone extracted the torrent yet ? |
| 08:04.02 | cncfanatics | this downloader doesn't like wine much |
| 08:04.06 | Daedals | step 3: Download client |
| 08:04.15 | Cairenn | cncfanatics: look on the wiki |
| 08:04.18 | Daedals | im on EU |
| 08:04.21 | Cairenn | believe there are direct links |
| 08:04.28 | cncfanatics | Cairenn: wowwiki ? |
| 08:04.34 | Cairenn | think so, yeah |
| 08:05.08 | kd3 | meh, I got my copy from wirebrain... but he didn't post it on the site. lemme see if I can find the forum post |
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| 08:05.50 | Daedals | Madivia, step 3 is to download the client |
| 08:05.52 | cncfanatics | Cairenn: there don't seem to be |
| 08:05.55 | cncfanatics | and wotlkwiki only has US |
| 08:05.57 | Daedals | Maldivia* |
| 08:06.21 | Cairenn | ah, here it is: http://www.wotlkwiki.info/index.php/Main_Page |
| 08:06.36 | cncfanatics | Cairenn: only links to the US torrent |
| 08:06.36 | Daedals | 1. Upgrade Account 2. Copy Character 3. Download Client |
| 08:06.45 | cncfanatics | http://wotlkwiki.info/index.php/Client_and_Patches |
| 08:06.49 | Cairenn | no it doesn't |
| 08:06.52 | Daedals | nothing points to "blizzard account" |
| 08:07.09 | Cairenn | cncfanatics: Full (~2GB) Client Downloads: |
| 08:07.09 | Cairenn | enUS - deDE - frFR - enGB |
| 08:07.16 | Cairenn | that's what I see right on the front page |
| 08:07.22 | Cairenn | how is that only US? |
| 08:07.33 | kd3 | dae; https://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/account/creation/start.xml |
| 08:07.38 | cncfanatics | :o there on the main page |
| 08:07.41 | Daedals | im on EU |
| 08:08.01 | Cairenn | it's wotlkwiki |
| 08:08.11 | cncfanatics | yay for shitspeed |
| 08:08.21 | Daedals | and I didnt get a link for that |
| 08:08.23 | Daedals | :P |
| 08:08.25 | Daedals | but ill try |
| 08:08.41 | cncfanatics | Daedals: didn't get any blizz account crap on EU here either |
| 08:08.56 | Daedals | ok |
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| 08:08.59 | Cairenn | yeah, hearing that the EU don't need to make the temp account |
| 08:09.01 | Daedals | and you can log in? |
| 08:09.05 | Daedals | ok good |
| 08:09.07 | Cairenn | lot of people have said that on the threads on WoWI |
| 08:09.23 | cncfanatics | Cairenn: is there also a link to the EU torrent somewhere ? |
| 08:09.24 | cladhair_ | interesting |
| 08:09.26 | Daedals | so I can log in only after my char has been copied? |
| 08:09.27 | cncfanatics | would prolly go faster with the torrent |
| 08:09.47 | Cairenn | cncfanatics: if you want to use the torrent, just use Blizz's :p |
| 08:09.53 | cncfanatics | that won't do |
| 08:09.57 | cladhair_ | cncfanatics: as always, you can get the torrent from within blizzard's downloader |
| 08:09.57 | cncfanatics | wine doesn't like it |
| 08:09.58 | cladhair_ | yes it will |
| 08:10.04 | cladhair_ | the torrent is in there |
| 08:10.08 | cladhair_ | just extract it |
| 08:10.14 | cncfanatics | how do you do that again ? :p |
| 08:10.15 | cladhair_ | or download the mac one, and cd to the downloader directory |
| 08:10.21 | cladhair_ | you use google |
| 08:10.28 | batrick | clad's e fell face forward |
| 08:10.30 | batrick | or backward |
| 08:10.31 | batrick | can't tell |
| 08:10.33 | batrick | damn 2d |
| 08:10.34 | durcyn | ~google blizzard downloader extract torrent |
| 08:10.40 | durcyn | cnc |
| 08:10.55 | batrick | that was a pretty terrible joke |
| 08:11.00 | Shirik | !g blizzard downloader extract torrent |
| 08:11.01 | batbot | Shirik: Craftymind » Blog Archive » Web app to extract torrent files out ... <http://www.craftymind.com/2008/06/28/web-app-to-extract-torrent-files-out-of-blizzard-downloader/> |
| 08:11.08 | batrick | hey look shirik is still awake |
| 08:11.15 | Shirik | of course, batbot.... grrr |
| 08:11.19 | Shirik | fails at making links clickable |
| 08:11.34 | batrick | dude that's is clickable in every irc client but yours |
| 08:11.43 | batrick | because... you have a mssively shitty irc client |
| 08:11.46 | Daedals | lol |
| 08:11.47 | zenzio | yeah, it's your client's fault |
| 08:11.47 | cladhair_ | its clickable for me |
| 08:11.56 | Daedals | Blizzard is trying to fool me! |
| 08:12.08 | Daedals | it says "e-mail address" on the log in |
| 08:12.18 | Daedals | but I can only log in with my account name |
| 08:12.21 | Daedals | omg |
| 08:12.27 | durcyn | Daedals: you have to tie your live account to a beta account |
| 08:12.36 | durcyn | Daedals: beta accounts are identified by email address |
| 08:14.05 | nevcairiel | Daedals: thats because EU doesnt use the blizzard account thingy yet |
| 08:14.30 | durcyn | oh, right, EU. |
| 08:16.50 | Daedals | woot my own DK ! |
| 08:18.20 | batrick | anyone had a problem with the installer freezing right after u give it admin privledges in vista? |
| 08:18.24 | batrick | (beta) |
| 08:19.10 | cncfanatics | bleh, I'm not at hom |
| 08:19.16 | cncfanatics | gonna have to wait to dl the client till then |
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| 08:46.17 | Cairenn | ReAn: ping? |
| 08:47.00 | Cairenn | ~seen ReAn |
| 08:47.04 | purl | rean is currently on #wowhead (1d 15h 39m 25s) #wowuidev (1d 15h 39m 25s) #wowace (1d 15h 39m 25s). Has said a total of 129 messages. Is idling for 1h 16m 11s, last said: 'Unkle invited me'. |
| 08:50.22 | ReAn | sup |
| 08:50.30 | Cairenn | what's your nick on WoWI? |
| 08:50.36 | ReAn | Voorije |
| 08:50.41 | Cairenn | okay |
| 08:50.45 | ReAn | why? |
| 08:50.47 | Cairenn | thanks |
| 08:50.58 | Cairenn | no worries, was just checking on something |
| 08:51.03 | ReAn | O.o |
| 08:51.44 | Cairenn | wasn't sure if maybe you were someone else, just trying to track down ownership of a mod |
| 08:52.01 | ReAn | which one? |
| 08:52.10 | Cairenn | doesn't matter, it isn't you :) |
| 08:53.19 | Cairenn | night TC-Away, sweet dreams |
| 08:53.59 | zenzio | uhm, what sort of sleep are you thinking of having if you're planning to "come home" to "lord"? Indefinite sleep? |
| 08:55.08 | p3lim | any Beta PVE Ally/Horde guild up yet? |
| 08:56.12 | Xinhuan | Maldivia, pester Unkle |
| 08:56.18 | Xinhuan | i can't invite |
| 08:56.24 | Xinhuan | and you're the 11th person to whisper me in 4 hours ;p |
| 08:57.10 | ReAn | p3lim: Yes |
| 08:57.16 | ReAn | <Secure Templars> alli |
| 08:57.23 | ReAn | <WTB API PST> Horde |
| 08:57.34 | Xuerian | Make sure to pst Xinhuan. |
| 08:57.38 | p3lim | sorry, I meant EU |
| 08:57.38 | Xuerian | He'll get you in. |
| 08:57.39 | nevcairiel | is that EU or US? |
| 08:57.40 | Mery | but i think p3lim is EU |
| 08:57.45 | Xuerian | pst him anyway. |
| 08:57.53 | Xuerian | <_< |
| 08:58.16 | Xuerian | p3lim: I think Fisker- was working on EU guilds. |
| 08:58.24 | p3lim | Ok, ill ask him later |
| 08:58.32 | p3lim | Its still kinda early here in europe |
| 08:58.38 | p3lim | (11:00) |
| 08:59.20 | batrick | ReAn: what char are you in beta? (for pvp horde guild?) |
| 08:59.40 | Maldivia | Xinhuan: hehe, picked the first name on the list I knew :9 |
| 08:59.52 | Maldivia | Xinhuan: and the the client disconnceted 15 seconds later :) |
| 08:59.54 | Xinhuan | everyone does that |
| 09:00.01 | Xuerian | <3 |
| 09:00.31 | Xuerian | Hard to deny. Filthy rich little gnome with a long name that starts with X. |
| 09:00.33 | Cairenn | not Fisker-, Funkeh` |
| 09:00.42 | Xuerian | Little bastard with his legendary mount.. |
| 09:00.58 | Xuerian | Cairenn: I always get the F* twins mixed up |
| 09:01.02 | Cairenn | :) |
| 09:01.18 | Xuerian | Must've been separated at birth; two syllables starts with F ends with misfit character for no specific reason |
| 09:01.28 | Cairenn | lol |
| 09:02.06 | Xuerian | Try to tell either one of them that... lol. |
| 09:02.18 | Cairenn | sweet dreams Xuerian |
| 09:02.37 | Xuerian | Told ya >.> |
| 09:02.37 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 09:03.04 | Xuerian | Cairenn: Thanks for pushing for the keys =) |
| 09:03.12 | Cairenn | you're welcome :) |
| 09:03.30 | Tekkub | CATS FOR EVERYONE! |
| 09:03.43 | Funkeh` | 99% |
| 09:06.10 | Ycarene | Anyone have problems with xloot crashing wow? |
| 09:06.39 | Mikk | No. |
| 09:06.51 | Mikk | I've run it for ages. |
| 09:06.58 | Mikk | Possibly xloot in combination with something else? |
| 09:07.38 | Mikk | How are you arriving at it being xloot? |
| 09:07.43 | Mikk | And what do you mean by crash? |
| 09:08.24 | Ycarene | Could a issue deleting the widget, but it only happens when I loot the last item with xloot installed. |
| 09:08.40 | Ycarene | And by crash, I mean, the whole wow application dies. |
| 09:09.17 | Mikk | Hangs and become unresponsive, or gives you a "CRASH!" windows dialog? |
| 09:10.02 | Mikk | Also, unfortunately, you're wrong about deleting widgets. It's not possible to delete widgets in wow. You create a bunch, and hide the ones you don't need. |
| 09:10.08 | Ycarene | Well, its the blizzard dialog with the "send" and "done" button. |
| 09:10.12 | Mikk | Ok |
| 09:10.29 | Ycarene | Well, you know what I mean, when the widget goes away. |
| 09:10.46 | Mikk | So.. something barfs when you've looted the last item... |
| 09:10.59 | batrick | so who can get me an invite to the pvp horde guild? |
| 09:11.01 | Mikk | I take it you've tried running without xloot for a bit? |
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| 09:11.29 | Ycarene | Yep, doesn't crash |
| 09:12.28 | Ycarene | just had it happen without looting everything. |
| 09:12.39 | Ycarene | Just escaped out of it and it crashed wow again. |
| 09:12.41 | Mikk | You're solo? |
| 09:12.54 | Ycarene | Yeah |
| 09:13.04 | Ycarene | I'm actually think it might be a vid driver... |
| 09:13.06 | Mikk | Okay... so.. something barfs when LOOT_CLOSED is sent then |
| 09:13.08 | Ycarene | or wine |
| 09:13.18 | Fisker- | stop hating |
| 09:13.31 | Ycarene | ? |
| 09:13.36 | Mikk | stop listening to fisker |
| 09:14.14 | Fisker- | i have done nothings Mikk |
| 09:14.25 | Mikk | you spoke! again! :P |
| 09:14.39 | Ycarene | Heh |
| 09:14.48 | Ycarene | Hating on what? Wine? or my drivers? |
| 09:15.06 | ReAn | Alright! |
| 09:15.14 | ReAn | Utgrade Keep Achievment Completed! |
| 09:16.47 | Mikk | Well.. turn the situation around maybe? |
| 09:16.53 | Mikk | Disable everything except Xloot? |
| 09:17.48 | Mikk | Also, sticking a copy+paste of the crashdump text up on pastey.net might tell us something |
| 09:22.36 | batrick | ReAn: !!! what's your beta char? |
| 09:23.34 | ReAn | i've got several |
| 09:23.43 | ReAn | 2 70s on horde, 1 on alliance and 1 dk |
| 09:23.44 | batrick | well who r u on now? I need guild invite |
| 09:23.52 | ReAn | horde or alliance? |
| 09:23.56 | batrick | horde |
| 09:23.58 | batrick | pvp |
| 09:24.07 | ReAn | Voorije, give me 1 minute to log on her |
| 09:24.24 | ReAn | oh |
| 09:24.27 | ReAn | not on pvp server |
| 09:24.31 | ReAn | we're all on the pve one |
| 09:25.32 | batrick | wow... |
| 09:25.35 | batrick | casuals! |
| 09:26.08 | ReAn | hrm |
| 09:26.13 | Cairenn | it's so people can have chars on both sides for testing purposes |
| 09:26.57 | Funkeh` | Cairenn, http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10113-Cellular.html I don't think thats the real author |
| 09:27.07 | Funkeh` | maybe using a different username, not sure |
| 09:28.27 | Cairenn | Funkeh`: http://wowace.com/wiki/Cellular |
| 09:28.35 | Cairenn | according to that, same author name |
| 09:28.35 | leethal | forgotten_lords is mentioned on http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Cellular too |
| 09:28.46 | leethal | rawr! |
| 09:28.50 | Cairenn | we check :p |
| 09:29.19 | Funkeh` | under credits not author though ;p |
| 09:29.54 | ReAn | any horde wanna run nexus? i feel like tanking something |
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| 09:30.58 | Cairenn | Funkeh`: if you can prove he isn't the author, give me the info and we'll pull it |
| 09:31.09 | Cairenn | but a good faith search shows it belonging to him |
| 09:31.21 | batrick | can you cast the speed increase on a mount once oyu've already "learned" it? |
| 09:31.33 | Funkeh` | Ive never seen a single commit by him on wowace |
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| 09:34.53 | Cairenn | well, ya know what? the latest revision http://files.wowace.com/Cellular/ r24956 has his name in it as well |
| 09:35.13 | Cairenn | there's only so much I can do when everything I can find says it is his .... |
| 09:36.11 | Tekkub | http://files.wowace.com/Cellular/changelogs/Cellular-r74346.txt |
| 09:36.26 | Tekkub | totalpackage is the only one touching it |
| 09:37.02 | Tekkub | the wiki page liste totalpackage as author, with credits to Forgotten_Lords (credit usually means "I stole the idea from") |
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| 09:38.34 | Tekkub | I say ask totalpackage :P |
| 09:38.40 | Mikk | Or maybe he's the original author, and keeping it up to date on wowi |
| 09:38.47 | Cairenn | now, see, that's proof I can work with |
| 09:40.01 | Mikk | Er then again it just popped up on wowi and was never there before |
| 09:40.38 | [dRaCo] | done. |
| 09:40.41 | Cairenn | PM sent to totalpackage |
| 09:41.36 | Funkeh` | Cairenn, just fyi, that page reads the x-credits |
| 09:41.41 | Funkeh` | so it's the same as the wiki |
| 09:42.24 | Tekkub | yea totalpackage is the ONLY one that's ever touched the mod as far as the changelogs at http://files.wowace.com/Cellular/changelogs/ show |
| 09:42.28 | cncfanatics | check svn history |
| 09:42.30 | cncfanatics | and see if it ever changed |
| 09:42.33 | cncfanatics | if it did, he changed it |
| 09:43.11 | Tekkub | " Cellular is an instant messenger mod based on the functionality of an old version of ForgottenChat" I think that's the reason for the credits listing |
| 09:43.43 | Cairenn | as I said .... pm sent to totalpackage, I'll hash it out with him |
| 09:43.50 | Tekkub | ya :) |
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| 09:49.58 | cncfanatics | if totalpackage was the only one changing anything |
| 09:50.03 | cncfanatics | and he set the author field too |
| 09:50.07 | cncfanatics | doesn't that make it ok ? |
| 09:54.19 | Ycarene | Would it be possible to implement gtk+ in wow lua? |
| 09:55.04 | cncfanatics | Ycarene: probably |
| 09:55.15 | Ycarene | Would probably be slow as hell though. |
| 09:55.23 | zenzio | huh? GTK+ from within WoW? |
| 09:55.52 | cncfanatics | Ycarene: there are already GUI implementations handyer then GTK for WoW though |
| 09:56.00 | Ycarene | Yeah |
| 09:56.16 | zenzio | such as? |
| 09:56.55 | cncfanatics | such as http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace3/AceGUI-3.0/ |
| 09:57.30 | zenzio | now I'm puzzled. You mean you think you could recode all of GTK+ within WoW's sandboxed lua? |
| 09:57.57 | cncfanatics | ofc you could |
| 09:58.04 | cncfanatics | I don't have the time for it though :p |
| 09:58.21 | cncfanatics | and i have no idea how performant it would be |
| 09:58.22 | zenzio | doesn't GTK offer all sorts of things like file system access, sockets, other things? |
| 09:58.59 | cncfanatics | you wouldn't be able to code those ofc |
| 09:59.08 | cncfanatics | but everything that makes sense for WoW could be coded |
| 09:59.47 | zenzio | ah, fair enough, that I could understand |
| 10:00.25 | Ycarene | You COULD create a filesystem within the user's variable space... |
| 10:00.48 | Ycarene | and sockets between other wow users. |
| 10:01.15 | zenzio | the question is why you'd bother with those |
| 10:01.56 | amro | the real question would be why waste time on GTK+ :P |
| 10:02.35 | zenzio | hehe |
| 10:03.09 | Ycarene | What about coding a different scripting language? |
| 10:04.34 | amro | shirik was working on a lolcode interpreter a while back |
| 10:11.06 | p3lim | just did Ramparts with 4 other DKs, 1st boss just went down in 13 sec :p |
| 10:12.15 | p3lim | not even that |
| 10:12.44 | zenzio | find 24 other DKs and go pwn up Sunwell |
| 10:13.36 | p3lim | omg :p |
| 10:13.41 | p3lim | that would be sick |
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| 10:14.11 | p3lim | 23, could use a healer for the MT dk |
| 10:14.29 | p3lim | unless all DKs are Blood specced except the tank :p |
| 10:14.41 | p3lim | Imp Blood Aura is neat for this kinda stuff |
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| 10:16.51 | zenzio | true, bring 20 DKs and 5 holy paladins |
| 10:19.08 | zenzio | I still remember one of the more important questions posted after DKs were unveiled... "will you be giving Nefarian a DK shout?" |
| 10:19.38 | p3lim | that one is very important indeed |
| 10:19.57 | [dRaCo] | It'd totally break the fight if they dont |
| 10:20.00 | [dRaCo] | ! |
| 10:20.14 | haste | how many US beta servers are there? |
| 10:20.19 | nevcairiel | 2 |
| 10:20.26 | haste | thanks |
| 10:20.28 | Maldivia | 2 - Northrend and Lich King |
| 10:20.38 | nevcairiel | EU only has one :( |
| 10:22.12 | Cairenn | one PvE, one PvP |
| 10:22.25 | nevcairiel | at least they made the one EU realm a PvE |
| 10:24.23 | haste | yep |
| 10:24.33 | haste | which means I can code anywhere! |
| 10:24.35 | Elkano | no ganking my fellow coders from the other faction :( |
| 10:24.57 | haste | I have both factions now D: |
| 10:24.59 | zenzio | haste: lies. Try coding in the Dire Maul arena |
| 10:25.04 | haste | that's also nice with PvE |
| 10:27.48 | haste | Also! I didn't know the launcher could download pacthes :p |
| 10:28.19 | zenzio | doesn't it only do small ones or something like that? |
| 10:28.59 | nevcairiel | the launcher can download all patches |
| 10:29.14 | nevcairiel | it just downloads the downloader, anyway :) |
| 10:29.15 | zenzio | really? That's neat, didn't know that |
| 10:29.40 | haste | I've never used the launcher before :p |
| 10:30.12 | nevcairiel | I started to use it always, it doesnt hurt me if its set to not show and directly forward to wow |
| 10:30.15 | zenzio | occasionally there's an interesting link or something there, so I accept having to press "Launch" (or is it "Play"?) |
| 10:30.16 | nevcairiel | except if a patch is there |
| 10:30.52 | haste | it's just a PITA on my tiling window manager |
| 10:32.09 | zenzio | tiling window manager? |
| 10:32.37 | haste | I use linux mainly |
| 10:32.46 | haste | first time I'm playing WoW on windows! |
| 10:32.49 | haste | or installing :D |
| 10:34.06 | zenzio | it's what the "tiling" part meant I was curious about =) |
| 10:34.35 | haste | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wmii |
| 10:35.26 | zenzio | oh, I see |
| 10:40.07 | starlon | heh I remember ratpoison. was too spoiled on Gnome |
| 10:40.33 | haste | I went from: fluxbox -> stripped gnome -> wmii |
| 10:40.44 | haste | used gnome for about a year |
| 10:41.10 | haste | but I had to use devil's pie and such to make it really 'work' for me |
| 10:41.14 | Elkano | you strip gnomes? sick wirdo... |
| 10:41.19 | zenzio | think I used Gnome (or KDE?) for four months or so, otherwise just been bouncing back and forth between Enlightenment and Xfce |
| 10:41.42 | haste | my wmii is controlled by a lua script however, so it's really easy to automate things :p |
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| 10:50.27 | nevcairiel | Did anyone figure out yet what happend to optional dependancies in 3.0? It seems like the game doesnt load LoD addons anymore if they are listed in OptDep |
| 10:55.03 | leethal | haste: http://modeemi.fi/~tuomov/ion/ \o/ |
| 10:55.11 | leethal | (apropos tiling window manager) |
| 10:56.08 | haste | leethal: the author is way to unreliable |
| 10:56.33 | haste | awesome3 would be a better choice |
| 10:56.38 | leethal | you seem to know more than me about ion, then ; ) |
| 10:58.39 | haste | well, the author pulled stuff like: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2007-December/045494.html |
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| 11:06.28 | orionshock | ok, dare i ask for a invite to the Litch king guild? |
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| 11:07.28 | orionshock | name is Aleiah - alliance side |
| 11:09.21 | zenzio | may wnat to specify if you're on EU or US |
| 11:09.28 | orionshock | US sorry |
| 11:09.33 | zenzio | :) |
| 11:09.58 | zenzio | not sure if any of the people who can invite are awake right now, but if they aren't then stick around and you'll run into one |
| 11:11.44 | hipjipp | man, i thought this day would be dull and crappy due to the rain and lack of things to do, but i just recieved a WOTLK beta invite <3<3 Blizz knows how to cheer me up.. :P |
| 11:12.28 | *** topic/#WoWUIDev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 2.4.x ToC: 20400 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | BlizzCon Tickets on-sale 11 Aug http://www.blizzcon.com/ |BlizzCon UI Community Tentative Schedule, and Group Hotel Rates: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17443 | Proof of water on Mars: http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0504/WaterOnMars2_gcc.jpg |
| 11:13.04 | hipjipp | lol Cairenn.. :P |
| 11:13.10 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 11:13.21 | orionshock | grr, i got my damn pony but how do i turn it in :( |
| 11:13.21 | amro | good one |
| 11:14.21 | orionshock | :\ nmd, pet action bar... |
| 11:15.02 | Maldivia | orionshock: took me a while aswell to figure out - and remember it, a lot of quests that require your to mount something has a pet-spell to complete |
| 11:15.53 | orionshock | ok now how do i find this guy to kill? |
| 11:16.15 | leethal | is there a list of spell ids somewhere? |
| 11:16.21 | leethal | hmm, perhaps they match the id on sites such as wowhead? |
| 11:16.31 | amro | they do |
| 11:16.33 | Slakah2 | leethal: the url of wowhead |
| 11:16.35 | leethal | nice =) |
| 11:16.39 | amro | but there is a list somwhere |
| 11:16.51 | orionshock | has anyone here done the DK opening quests? |
| 11:17.26 | Maldivia | orionshock: the one in the shadow land? |
| 11:17.41 | orionshock | ya my screen is pitch black almost |
| 11:18.01 | Maldivia | orionshock: ride down the slope to the right, towards the town (not the slope with the mine next to it) |
| 11:18.59 | orionshock | is the screen suposed to be black? |
| 11:19.07 | Maldivia | it's supposed to be very dark |
| 11:19.20 | Maldivia | but not black |
| 11:19.26 | orionshock | where u able to see anything? |
| 11:19.30 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 11:19.44 | Maldivia | try disabling full screen glow effect in the video options? |
| 11:19.47 | orionshock | must be a video thing |
| 11:21.38 | orionshock | have to disable open GL rendering :( |
| 11:22.03 | Maldivia | works in DX rendering, but not GL? |
| 11:23.56 | orionshock | yes |
| 11:24.43 | leethal | anyone using git and devs on os x here, btw? What's the most sane way to create a zip file without a __MACOSX and a .git folder for uploading on wowi.com etc.? |
| 11:25.24 | Maldivia | orionshock: /bug it then |
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| 11:26.26 | frop | lo |
| 11:26.58 | frop | is there any place where i could get some kgpanel art packs? |
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| 11:29.27 | mark105 | hi |
| 11:30.16 | Cairenn | hi |
| 11:31.08 | zenzio | hi |
| 11:31.14 | mark105 | im using cosmos but i wanted to manually add some add ons but when i open cosmos it says they are not part of cosmos so they dont get updated, anyway to fix? |
| 11:31.51 | Mery | well they don't need to be updated by the cosmos updater, just like you added them manually you need to update them manually |
| 11:32.01 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 11:33.34 | Pneumatus | author keys ftw, hope to see moar addons updated now :> |
| 11:33.53 | Cairenn | yay keys :) |
| 11:34.22 | mark105 | even if they are cosmos ones? theres no way to get them so cosmos updates them? i tryed the "install addon" option in manage addons but it just give me a warning box say unhandled exeption and doesnt install it |
| 11:35.55 | Mery | but the question is why did you add them manually in first place if they are FCosmos addons? |
| 11:36.05 | Cairenn | okay, you're confusing us - first you said you wanted to manually add some ... now you're saying they're cosmos mods |
| 11:36.27 | Mery | s/FC/C |
| 11:36.58 | mark105 | they are cosmos mods but i manually added them as i chose the begginer distribution and it didnt have those mods so i wanted to add them |
| 11:37.36 | mark105 | so i went to the addons page on the cosmos site and downloaded them |
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| 11:38.15 | mark105 | and complete distribution just has way to much stuff in it for me |
| 11:38.45 | foxlit | hey, look, a beta key |
| 11:40.34 | frop | are there differences between "StatBlock" and "StatBlocks" ? |
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| 11:43.00 | foxlit | now what am I to do with it. |
| 11:43.12 | Cairenn | foxlit: :) |
| 11:43.37 | Maldivia | foxlit: follow the instructions in the mail, or feel the wrath of the UI Mistress of Doom.... |
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| 11:44.30 | foxlit | Maldivia: that's not quite the dilemma; what makes it interesting is that I've already got a key from wwi :) |
| 11:44.42 | Pneumatus | give it to a friend |
| 11:45.38 | Elkano | frop, the one without s is newer I think |
| 11:46.53 | Maldivia | foxlit: give it to your husband/wife/boyfriend/girlfriend/partner/friend or your evil alter ego :) |
| 11:47.07 | foxlit | that evil alter ego option sounds fascinating! |
| 11:47.18 | Cairenn | just for god's sake please don't sell it on eBay |
| 11:47.49 | zenzio | yeah, there are better auction sites around |
| 11:47.52 | Cairenn | all it will take is for one author to sell their key on eBay and we're screwed of ever getting them again |
| 11:48.15 | Funkeh` | frop, (s) is the old version |
| 11:48.19 | foxlit | I assume they're relatively traceable anyway |
| 11:48.53 | Maldivia | lets see, unique key and the email it was mailed too... yeah, I'd say that's traceable :) |
| 11:48.58 | Pneumatus | id imagine so, yes :) |
| 11:50.12 | Cairenn | not saying that any of you guys would :p |
| 11:50.23 | leethal | how awesome is the beta? Very? |
| 11:50.46 | Mera | very boring at dlding :p |
| 11:50.53 | foxlit | Maldivia: email/key give you virtually nothing; but if you know you've sent them to WoWI authors, you can easily track the key to a name for Cairenn to murder :) |
| 11:51.08 | Cairenn | and don't think I won't! |
| 11:52.01 | Maldivia | leethal: complete the introduction quest for the death knight as the first thing (while waiting for chars to transfer)... and you'll get a feeling of just HOW awesome the beta is |
| 11:52.21 | foxlit | Maldivia: my chars transferred instantly :( |
| 11:52.29 | foxlit | [but yes, the DK quest line is awesome] |
| 11:52.31 | Maldivia | foxlit: well, do it anyway :) |
| 11:52.41 | leethal | rawr rawr gief next week nao! |
| 11:52.56 | p3lim | current beta lvl cap is 77? |
| 11:53.02 | foxlit | yes |
| 11:53.19 | leethal | the beta invites has many sides: It did for instance cause me to start codin' addons again, wohoo |
| 11:53.23 | Maldivia | the DK quest line is one of the most fun and awesome experiences in the game |
| 11:53.59 | foxlit | leethal: I take it that's _before_ you got a key :) |
| 11:54.24 | zenzio | I can't see myself bothering to unlock my DK... they don't interest me much ;-| |
| 11:54.32 | leethal | foxlit: ; ) |
| 11:54.40 | Maldivia | zenzio: unlock is just level past level 55 on any char |
| 11:54.52 | zenzio | unlock, create, whatever you want to call it |
| 11:55.13 | Maldivia | zenzio: the starting area for DKs is around 3 hours... you owe yourself to experience it at some point |
| 11:56.00 | zenzio | meh, I can get by without it. I just can't think of them as heroic in any way when everyone can easily get one |
| 11:56.09 | Arrowmaster | 3 hours if you rush it maybe... |
| 11:56.18 | foxlit | They're not supposed to be heroic, really |
| 11:56.22 | foxlit | They're supposed to be fun :) |
| 11:56.27 | orionshock | omg |
| 11:56.33 | zenzio | then why are they calling it a "hero class"? |
| 11:56.37 | Funkeh` | foxlit, yeah? |
| 11:56.41 | orionshock | "Massacre at lights point" that is a fun ass quest |
| 11:56.42 | Maldivia | zenzio: because they start at level 55 |
| 11:56.47 | foxlit | How are the EU guilds coming along? |
| 11:56.58 | orionshock | wow, beats the hell out of the bombing runs in outland |
| 11:56.59 | Cairenn | talk to Funkeh` |
| 11:56.59 | foxlit | Gameplay ends up as a weird combination of rogue/warrior styles anyway |
| 11:57.09 | Funkeh` | my character copy is taking longer than expected |
| 11:57.13 | zenzio | Maldivia: what a silly reason to call them a hero, but fair enough |
| 11:57.16 | p3lim | where is the haircut guy in UD? |
| 11:57.21 | foxlit | Cairenn: scroll up three lines :) |
| 11:57.21 | Funkeh` | leveling a DK and will make it, it's probably faster |
| 11:57.31 | Stanzilla | *pings his DK* |
| 11:57.48 | p3lim | Funkeh`: took me ~2 hours to finish dk qline |
| 11:57.49 | Maldivia | Arrowmaster: took me 3-3½ hours to complete the starting area, and I didn't rush it, read all quest logs etc |
| 11:57.50 | leethal | awesomeawesomeawesome |
| 11:57.56 | p3lim | and you get most FPs with it |
| 11:57.59 | leethal | blizz <3 |
| 11:58.01 | foxlit | What's in a name? |
| 11:58.02 | orionshock | Cairenn: is anyone online in the US-PvP-Alliance guild? |
| 11:58.13 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:58.20 | Arrowmaster | theres a pvp guild? |
| 11:58.33 | Cairenn | there are no pvp guilds |
| 11:58.35 | Cairenn | pve |
| 11:58.39 | orionshock | eh? |
| 11:58.40 | orionshock | no |
| 11:58.55 | orionshock | awww, eh well, |
| 11:59.15 | leethal | is there a limit to how many characters you can transfer? |
| 11:59.17 | Mera | had only a pve server in my dropdown menu for eu |
| 11:59.32 | leethal | ya eu only has one pve server, apparently |
| 11:59.35 | Maldivia | there's only one EU server |
| 11:59.43 | Mera | realm: Coldarra |
| 11:59.47 | Mera | ok |
| 12:00.35 | leethal | hmm, when monitoring the combat log for psycic scream, do you also have to listen for the spell ids to Improved Psycic scream? |
| 12:00.55 | leethal | psychic* |
| 12:01.24 | leethal | meh nvm, I'll check myself when I have wow around =P |
| 12:07.14 | Cairenn | have the US beta servers dropped? can't connect atm |
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| 12:11.51 | leethal | GM cybersex in AoC: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm?BHCP=1&THREAD=192300&bhcp=1 >< |
| 12:13.20 | foxlit | Funkeh`: mind if I beat you to the charter vendor, horde side? |
| 12:13.50 | foxlit | (could also wait, but hey, impatience :) ) |
| 12:14.11 | Funkeh` | go tell blizz to speed up my horde copy :) |
| 12:15.27 | foxlit | Hah, one thing I cannot do :) |
| 12:18.27 | nevcairiel | I should beat him on the alliance charter |
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| 12:20.07 | Cairenn | just let me know what the guild names are when you guys have them set up, so I can add the info to my posts |
| 12:24.47 | Pneumatus | i know its a stab in the dark, but are any of you both herbalists that have played in Zul'Drak? |
| 12:25.03 | cncfanatics | hmmm, any easy way to popup a textbox ? |
| 12:26.00 | Anaral | Do I want to regen 12% of int in mana or reduce the mana cost of my spells by 9%? |
| 12:26.28 | Pneumatus | both! |
| 12:26.47 | cncfanatics | Anaral: balance ftw |
| 12:26.48 | Anaral | I only have three pts left. |
| 12:26.54 | Anaral | Aye! |
| 12:27.21 | Pneumatus | was gonna say, cant be priest :) |
| 12:27.34 | Anaral | I'm currently going to be 59/0/2 in LK. Well once I figure out which is better. |
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| 12:29.09 | Kirkburn | Cairenn, I also set up http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:WotLK_beta_contacts ... I can add the guild names there too. |
| 12:29.20 | Cairenn | great |
| 12:29.24 | Pneumatus | 14 in disc, 3 in shadow and the rest in holy for levelling :> |
| 12:29.39 | Cairenn | well, the US ones are already posted - community tab on wowi to see them |
| 12:29.56 | foxlit | <wtb name> :/ |
| 12:30.04 | Kirkburn | Ah, okay, taking a look |
| 12:30.13 | Anaral | Okay, starfall rocks! |
| 12:30.19 | foxlit | psst |
| 12:30.22 | foxlit | Hurricane rocks |
| 12:30.32 | foxlit | starfall is... a talent point I didn't invest in :) |
| 12:30.37 | Kirkburn | Rocks rock. |
| 12:33.17 | Pneumatus | opening the feedback UI should put a pally bubble around you or something :> |
| 12:33.28 | Anaral | lol |
| 12:33.40 | Pneumatus | i get ganked so often reporting bugs |
| 12:33.50 | Maldivia | Pneumatus: I've been ganked so many times on the pvp server, while writing in the feedback ui :) |
| 12:33.53 | Kirkburn | Funkeh`, what's status on Alliance? |
| 12:34.01 | nevcairiel | Funkeh` is slacking |
| 12:34.24 | Kirkburn | Funkeh`, stop slacking. |
| 12:35.20 | Funkeh` | :< |
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| 12:35.35 | Funkeh` | I'm leveling a DK whilst waiting for transfers will be setting it up once I'm out of here |
| 12:35.46 | nevcairiel | just run to if? =P |
| 12:36.19 | Funkeh` | heh |
| 12:36.24 | Funkeh` | it's over in 10-20min |
| 12:36.33 | Anaral | Is there an inn in Valiance Keep? |
| 12:36.34 | Funkeh` | well I'm going 57 in a sec and close to LHC |
| 12:37.05 | nevcairiel | Anaral: ya |
| 12:37.24 | Pneumatus | Anaral: yes, to the right if you're coming off of the docks |
| 12:37.52 | Funkeh` | omg dinged |
| 12:38.15 | Kirkburn | People keep saying it doesn't give rest, but I've not seen that happen |
| 12:38.39 | Kirkburn | Are the dk frostwyrms fixed? |
| 12:38.47 | Pneumatus | Kirkburn: fixed how? |
| 12:38.50 | Pneumatus | they have loads of mana now |
| 12:39.02 | Kirkburn | True, but they did no damage whatsoever last time I tried :P |
| 12:39.07 | Pneumatus | their flying animation is still tempremental |
| 12:39.10 | Pneumatus | but they do damage, yes |
| 12:39.11 | foxlit | ~fail Kirkburn |
| 12:39.12 | purl | Kirkburn, you Fail! |
| 12:39.41 | Pneumatus | i did the full DK chain again last night, and aside from one of the quest npcs floating too high to accept his quest, it works fine |
| 12:39.56 | Pneumatus | and the cannon quest on the boat being tempramental also |
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| 12:44.12 | Anaral | Well I'll be back later, need to go play mom. |
| 12:44.35 | Kirkburn | Pneumatus, yeah, I had bit of trouble on that too |
| 12:44.45 | Kirkburn | Glad to hear wyrm is feeling better :) |
| 12:44.46 | foxlit | LFM EU Horde signatures :) |
| 12:45.00 | Kirkburn | foxlit, poke g0urra |
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| 12:45.07 | Kirkburn | oh lol |
| 12:45.14 | Kirkburn | Yeah, er .. nvm :) /me is blind |
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| 12:45.30 | Pneumatus | i can roll an alt if you're desparate :P |
| 12:46.45 | foxlit | 0/10, go me :) |
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| 13:03.29 | Fisker- | hai foxlit |
| 13:03.33 | Funkeh` | last stand :) |
| 13:03.39 | foxlit | hai fisker-troll :) |
| 13:03.47 | foxlit | gief signature in blood? |
| 13:04.23 | Cairenn | so do we have EU guilds yet? |
| 13:04.38 | Fisker- | sure |
| 13:04.49 | Fisker- | where you at_ |
| 13:04.50 | Fisker- | ? |
| 13:05.27 | foxlit | Cairenn: I'm hunting for signatures for <Restricted Crusade> on Coldarra-Horde |
| 13:05.33 | foxlit | Light's Hope, Fisker-. |
| 13:05.34 | Fisker- | stupid ;_; |
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| 13:05.47 | Fisker- | server keeps disconnecting me ;_; |
| 13:06.37 | Fisker- | "¤!¤"! |
| 13:06.56 | Fisker- | noone else has this issue_ |
| 13:06.58 | Fisker- | ? |
| 13:07.19 | Fisker- | like 75% of the time i get disconnected after retrieving the character list |
| 13:07.44 | Fisker- | if i'm lucky i'm able to login before it disconnects me, but sometimes it still disconnects me when beginning to enter the world |
| 13:07.45 | Fisker- | ;_; |
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| 13:08.59 | Cairenn | alliance side EU not set up yet? |
| 13:10.08 | haste | it's completly empty at LHC :p |
| 13:10.09 | foxlit | neither is horde, I still need to find ~7 other people :) |
| 13:10.33 | Fisker- | imma chargin my zeppelin foxlit |
| 13:10.52 | foxlit | No death gate? :) |
| 13:11.01 | Fisker- | :o? |
| 13:11.07 | p3lim | Funkeh`: any news on the EU PVE guild(s)? |
| 13:11.16 | haste | awesome, there's two EPL now :D ? |
| 13:11.28 | p3lim | one normal, one instanced |
| 13:11.43 | p3lim | foxlit: where are you? |
| 13:11.57 | haste | and how would you leave? |
| 13:12.07 | foxlit | went on a noxious glade detour; Light's Hope in a bit |
| 13:12.12 | p3lim | finish all the DK quests |
| 13:12.20 | Cairenn | p3lim: there's a horde side |
| 13:12.24 | haste | gwah, I can't do that |
| 13:12.32 | p3lim | gname? |
| 13:12.34 | Cairenn | p3lim: seems the ally side isn't set up yet though |
| 13:12.56 | Cairenn | <Restricted Crusade> - talk to foxlit, he's still looking for sigs |
| 13:12.58 | haste | guess I have to wait for the transfers then |
| 13:13.05 | p3lim | foxlit: ingame nick please |
| 13:13.09 | foxlit | That'd be Korrow |
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| 13:19.05 | Funkeh` | I'm on the last quest now waiting for the event to start, then the alliance guild will go up |
| 13:19.54 | orionshock | aight, so im on nearly the last links of the DK opener, where are the Ballistas?? anyone? |
| 13:20.34 | Funkeh` | on the dragon? |
| 13:20.39 | Funkeh` | they are up on the walls |
| 13:22.56 | orionshock | true, im a bit unfamiliar with the map |
| 13:23.15 | Fisker- | http://www.todaysbigthing.com/2008/08/04 <-hax |
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| 13:25.27 | Kaso | lol Fisker- |
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| 13:30.10 | Slakah2 | lol |
| 13:30.37 | Funkeh` | we lost against LHC :< |
| 13:30.45 | Funkeh` | there go my world domination plans |
| 13:31.01 | Slakah2 | reminds me of this http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7489457.stm |
| 13:33.06 | p3lim | I could start the Ally side guild, but need to come up with a good name |
| 13:33.24 | haste | characters transfered :p ? |
| 13:33.33 | p3lim | nah not quite yet |
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| 13:33.58 | p3lim | said it could take a day |
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| 13:34.44 | Fisker- | dqwtf Slakah2 |
| 13:34.53 | haste | I've never trusted the ETA thing |
| 13:34.59 | Fisker- | how is saying "What is your emergency" rather than "How can i help" going to change anything? |
| 13:35.54 | Kraps | is it possible to make an addon that counts the swings to a proc? |
| 13:36.11 | Kaso | sure |
| 13:37.09 | Slakah2 | Fisker-: not a clue |
| 13:37.12 | Funkeh` | people making the ally guild |
| 13:37.15 | Funkeh` | meet me in IF please |
| 13:37.15 | leethal | what's a 999 call? |
| 13:37.17 | Funkeh` | on EU |
| 13:37.22 | Slakah2 | 999 = 911 |
| 13:37.25 | Cairenn | Funkeh`: name you're going with? |
| 13:37.29 | leethal | hm, it's 112 here |
| 13:37.34 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:37.43 | Kaso | 112 is europe wide number |
| 13:37.44 | Pneumatus | 999 is UK, 112 in most (if not all) of europe |
| 13:37.47 | Kraps | Kaso: is there one now? |
| 13:37.53 | Pneumatus | 112 also works in the UK tho |
| 13:37.55 | leethal | meh, UK. |
| 13:37.56 | Funkeh` | Cairenn, <if Carlsberg made addons> |
| 13:38.04 | leethal | driving at the silly side of the road, not using 112. |
| 13:38.05 | Cairenn | are you serious? |
| 13:38.08 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 13:38.15 | Funkeh` | yes :) |
| 13:38.16 | Slakah2 | With 112 they have translators |
| 13:38.22 | leethal | Funkeh`: with a uncapitalized "if"? =P |
| 13:38.25 | haste | carlsberg is a awesome beer however, I approve! |
| 13:38.25 | Kaso | Kraps, procwatch does that doesnt it? |
| 13:38.30 | Kraps | it would really help such threads http://www.wowhead.com/?item=9651#comments |
| 13:38.46 | Funkeh` | :< |
| 13:38.54 | Cairenn | so we've got ... <Secure Templars>, <WTB API PST>, <Restricted Crusade> and <if Carlsberg made addons> ? |
| 13:38.59 | Cairenn | O.o |
| 13:39.11 | haste | needs more cuddle vendor |
| 13:39.20 | Pneumatus | needs moar reloadui |
| 13:39.22 | Funkeh` | I'll capitalize the I |
| 13:39.34 | leethal | Funkeh`: phew |
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| 13:39.55 | Maldivia | Carlsberg.... making adding... well, I hope they stick to beverages :) |
| 13:40.05 | Cairenn | lol, I like <needs moar reloadui> :p |
| 13:40.41 | Anaral | Harr |
| 13:41.02 | Josh_Borke | ~emulate Josh_Borke |
| 13:41.03 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn |
| 13:41.08 | Funkeh` | Wel I guess it's only really funny if you've seen the ads ;p |
| 13:41.11 | Anaral | <WTB API PST> is still my favorite. |
| 13:41.38 | leethal | <Frame /> heh |
| 13:41.43 | leethal | a shame they don't allow symbols |
| 13:41.45 | Cairenn | lol |
| 13:42.05 | Funkeh` | I'm like " " away from 58 >> |
| 13:42.12 | Anaral | Heh |
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| 13:42.56 | Pneumatus | Funkeh`: after doing the DK chain? |
| 13:43.04 | Funkeh` | yeah |
| 13:43.09 | Pneumatus | i was a whole bubble off last night :< |
| 13:43.14 | Pneumatus | go smack some undeads :) |
| 13:43.17 | Funkeh` | I saw some people dinged |
| 13:43.22 | Funkeh` | guess they grinded more mobs |
| 13:43.58 | Kraps | <Knights of the Square Table> |
| 13:44.12 | Kraps | just thought that up |
| 13:44.19 | leethal | I'm thinking I don't want to play beta, it ruins the whole "OMFG WHAT WILL I GET!!" experience at release |
| 13:44.22 | leethal | but meh.. |
| 13:44.26 | Pneumatus | yeh, in fairness i basically only killed the mobs i needed to complete quests |
| 13:44.39 | Cairenn | are you sticking with your choice Funkeh`? |
| 13:45.52 | Funkeh` | I'm checking to see if it fits now ;p |
| 13:45.55 | Funkeh` | I don't think it does |
| 13:46.05 | nevcairiel | it sounds silly too |
| 13:46.09 | Cairenn | <needs moar reloadui> |
| 13:46.11 | Cairenn | :p |
| 13:46.30 | Funkeh` | mhh |
| 13:46.33 | foxlit | [LFM Coldarra-Horde, still :) ] |
| 13:46.50 | Pneumatus | foxlit: you want me to roll an alt? :P |
| 13:46.54 | Cairenn | foxlit, char name in game? |
| 13:47.00 | leethal | I should create a guild, on live servers, called <addon toon>. So that it makes sense to stand looking at a wall in orgrimmar for 3 hours, not moving at all. |
| 13:47.03 | foxlit | Pneumatus: you could :) |
| 13:47.08 | foxlit | Cairenn: Korrow. |
| 13:47.13 | nevcairiel | whats with the leveling speed anyway, i can totally skip one of the two 70-72 zones o.O |
| 13:47.26 | foxlit | nev: that's very much the intention, I think |
| 13:47.32 | Kraps | as a warrior, i thought <Need More Rage> was pretty funny |
| 13:47.34 | Pneumatus | you gonna be able to come to org if i dump an alt in there? |
| 13:47.37 | Cairenn | foxlit: added that you are still looking for sigs |
| 13:47.43 | leethal | I love zone skippage. I hate leveling in BeM, for instance, good thing it's skippable |
| 13:47.54 | foxlit | Pneumatus: sure :) |
| 13:48.05 | nevcairiel | tundra sucks anyway |
| 13:48.08 | nevcairiel | howling fjord was much cooler |
| 13:48.31 | foxlit | I can't compare... that much |
| 13:48.36 | Funkeh` | need more ideas! |
| 13:48.39 | Pneumatus | running an orc to org then :) |
| 13:48.43 | foxlit | Fjord failed at connecting quest hubs |
| 13:48.54 | foxlit | I didn't have that problem in the tundra. |
| 13:48.54 | Cairenn | the one Pneumatus suggested didn't fit? |
| 13:48.56 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: horde or alliance? |
| 13:49.00 | nevcairiel | alliance |
| 13:49.19 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: I had the opposite feeling for horde, where I would much rather do BT than HF |
| 13:49.27 | nevcairiel | good thing then |
| 13:49.28 | foxlit | watching forsaken fail with their blind is hilarious, though |
| 13:49.30 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 13:49.35 | Funkeh` | not sure if it's "addony" enough :P |
| 13:49.40 | foxlit | s/blind/blight/ |
| 13:49.58 | Cairenn | what's not "addony" enough about <needs moar reloadui> ? |
| 13:50.03 | nevcairiel | i did a handful of quests in BT to ding 73 |
| 13:50.06 | Funkeh` | you guys want <needs more reloadui>? |
| 13:50.08 | nevcairiel | and skip the other shit |
| 13:50.27 | foxlit | By the looks of it, you can easily skip one zone for every level bracket |
| 13:50.28 | Cairenn | it's almost 10am, I need sleep soon |
| 13:50.32 | Maldivia | Cairenn: <IM IN YOUR CODE RELOADING YOUR UI> ? |
| 13:50.39 | nevcairiel | too long, hehe |
| 13:51.03 | Funkeh` | mm |
| 13:51.06 | nevcairiel | bah |
| 13:51.08 | Cairenn | and Funkeh`, what's your char name in game, so I can tell people to send tells to you for char signing |
| 13:51.08 | foxlit | <Who's your UIParent?> |
| 13:51.15 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 13:51.16 | Funkeh` | Funkeh |
| 13:51.18 | Maldivia | lol |
| 13:51.25 | Funkeh` | foxlit, lol... |
| 13:51.29 | nevcairiel | i hate those quests that place you on a gryphon without confirmation or telling you |
| 13:51.31 | Maldivia | <I'm the king of the WorldFrame> ? |
| 13:52.17 | Funkeh` | it's not that bad to be honest |
| 13:52.20 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: especially those, that you have to abort to be placed on the bird, if you were already mounted when accepting the quest |
| 13:52.32 | Stanzilla | I like <Who's your UIParent?> ^^ |
| 13:52.37 | Funkeh` | yeah |
| 13:52.54 | nevcairiel | now i have to fly back from grizzli hills <.< |
| 13:53.15 | Pneumatus | ive got guildless alts on coldarra alliance if anyone wants sigs there also |
| 13:53.18 | foxlit | Stanzilla: of course, the problem is that neither ' nor ? are allowed characters, I think |
| 13:53.25 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 13:54.09 | foxlit | Pneumatus: got a name of that horde orc/troll I'm meeting? :) |
| 13:54.17 | Pneumatus | Signed |
| 13:54.18 | nevcairiel | blind date, eh? |
| 13:54.25 | Pneumatus | just about to arrive in org |
| 13:54.38 | Stanzilla | <is the King of the WorldFrame> |
| 13:55.27 | nevcairiel | nah that one sucks |
| 13:55.29 | p3lim | I guess Im starting the Alliance EU Guild, as noone else seems to have done it |
| 13:55.43 | nevcairiel | pay attention :P |
| 13:55.44 | Funkeh` | p3lim, we're discussing names |
| 13:55.48 | p3lim | neat |
| 13:55.49 | Cairenn | p3lim: that's what we're talking about right now |
| 13:55.56 | p3lim | Havent been watching |
| 13:56.02 | p3lim | hm.. |
| 13:56.03 | Cairenn | obviously |
| 13:56.07 | p3lim | <Kings of WorldFrame> |
| 13:56.07 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 13:56.08 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 13:56.30 | p3lim | Masters, Lords etc |
| 13:56.51 | p3lim | Let me know when youve decided |
| 13:56.53 | leethal | <We have a tabard> |
| 13:56.56 | Funkeh` | Hooked to ChatFrame? |
| 13:56.56 | foxlit | <Hello Kitteh Total Conversion> |
| 13:57.06 | leethal | <Tainted and Secure> |
| 13:57.08 | ReAn | For the record |
| 13:57.16 | Funkeh` | hahaha |
| 13:57.21 | Josh_Borke | <ReloadThis> |
| 13:57.22 | ReAn | As im digging through FrameXML for 3.x |
| 13:57.24 | Stanzilla | woah nice, leethal |
| 13:57.30 | nevcairiel | Tainted and Secure imho |
| 13:57.31 | p3lim | ill be online more or less the next... 8-9 hours to come |
| 13:57.34 | Stanzilla | + |
| 13:57.37 | ReAn | im adding information i can get about new functions/events/api to WoWWiki |
| 13:57.39 | Funkeh` | Tainted and Secure it is |
| 13:57.42 | leethal | woot =) |
| 13:58.13 | p3lim | <Tainet and Secure> then? |
| 13:58.18 | p3lim | Tainted* |
| 13:58.30 | nevcairiel | Funkeh` where are you at for sigs? |
| 13:58.56 | Funkeh` | IF bank |
| 13:58.58 | Funkeh` | outside it |
| 13:59.46 | p3lim | Main not moved over yet |
| 14:00.26 | leethal | *poof* |
| 14:01.50 | Pneumatus | flying there now. |
| 14:02.08 | nevcairiel | only port i had left was black temple amulett |
| 14:02.13 | nevcairiel | so gimme one min =P |
| 14:02.24 | Pneumatus | teleport: moonglade? :P |
| 14:03.01 | Pneumatus | granted, thats the complete other side of the world |
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| 14:07.40 | Funkeh` | hahha |
| 14:07.45 | Funkeh` | they fixed the duel next to bank |
| 14:07.51 | Funkeh` | no more dueling in IF |
| 14:09.01 | Pneumatus | feel free to throw the charter at Bashful |
| 14:10.08 | Cairenn | Funkeh`: could you edit your post in this thread: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=4965919787&sid=1 to reflect the fact we've sorted out the guild names http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202651695&postId=87646504920&sid=1#84 (#84), please? |
| 14:11.10 | Mery | Funkeh`: bah always was so much fun :P |
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| 14:19.54 | p3lim | im gonna log for about an hour |
| 14:19.56 | p3lim | cya later on |
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| 14:26.27 | Funkeh` | Cairenn, done |
| 14:26.36 | Cairenn | thanks Funkeh` :) |
| 14:27.07 | foxlit | <Your UIParent> |
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| 14:33.10 | Nom- | heh DK is fun XD |
| 14:33.32 | Nom- | i'm not sure about my pally yet tho |
| 14:34.14 | Anaral | Okay, where do my WTF files go. in my account name folder or email account folder... |
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| 14:34.37 | Pneumatus | huh o.O |
| 14:34.51 | |Jelly| | account name |
| 14:35.03 | |Jelly| | confused me at first too |
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| 14:35.33 | Anaral | Well okay... |
| 14:36.54 | Anaral | Odd that Cart3 shows up as red, but is one of the few addons that still works. |
| 14:38.03 | Daedals | Cairenn you on US or EU? |
| 14:38.09 | Cairenn | US |
| 14:38.15 | Daedals | kk |
| 14:38.21 | Cairenn | although you wouldn't know it by my sleep schedule these days :p |
| 14:38.26 | Daedals | anyone from EU-horde? |
| 14:38.30 | Anaral | Cairenn you on alliance right now? |
| 14:38.44 | Cairenn | Anaral: not atm, but I can be if there is no one else on |
| 14:38.53 | Daedals | any good guilds on EU-horde? |
| 14:38.59 | Anaral | Can anyone invite? |
| 14:38.59 | Kirkburn | Red addons in Wrath mean LoD |
| 14:39.09 | Kirkburn | (as well as dependency misisng) |
| 14:39.12 | Cairenn | Daedals: there's an author guild |
| 14:39.18 | Daedals | oh :o |
| 14:39.24 | Daedals | name? |
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| 14:39.40 | Cairenn | <Restricted Crusade> (still looking for sigs, send tell to Korrow) |
| 14:39.49 | Kirkburn | Funkeh`, still looking for Alliance sigs? I can log in now |
| 14:40.11 | Cairenn | Anaral: <Secure Templars> see if anyone is on to invite |
| 14:40.24 | Cairenn | if not, I'll hop on long enough to invite before I go try to get some sleep |
| 14:40.35 | Anaral | With the <> or without? |
| 14:40.36 | |pez| | sleep is overrated! |
| 14:40.44 | |pez| | without I'm sure. |
| 14:40.48 | Cairenn | Kirkburn: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17282 to get the 4 guild names for your page |
| 14:40.54 | |pez| | <> is used like " and " in most cases XD |
| 14:41.08 | Kirkburn | Cairenn, already up on http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:WotLK_beta_contacts :) |
| 14:41.10 | Seerah | http://video.yahoo.com/watch/3122885/8871996 |
| 14:41.13 | Kraps | is it hard to level a resto druid? |
| 14:41.16 | Kirkburn | I is speedy :P |
| 14:41.22 | Cairenn | Kirkburn: u is |
| 14:41.24 | Cairenn | :) |
| 14:41.30 | Anaral | One person is on. Neuroshaman. |
| 14:41.39 | foxlit | psst, Kirk, sign on horde :) |
| 14:41.41 | Cairenn | send a tell, see if he can invite |
| 14:41.52 | Pneumatus | if you lot havnt done it already, you might want to set all ranks to allow invites :) |
| 14:41.53 | Anaral | Did, waiting for response |
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| 14:42.04 | Kirkburn | foxlit, will do in a sec |
| 14:42.04 | Pneumatus | those that hold GM positions that is :) |
| 14:42.35 | Anaral | It says he's afk |
| 14:42.50 | zenzelezz | http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php -- it's sad that I could picture myself in this scenario |
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| 14:43.16 | Cairenn | Pneumatus: the GL of ally on US is on vacation |
| 14:43.23 | Pneumatus | ah :< |
| 14:43.33 | Seerah | ~lart Esamynn |
| 14:43.33 | purl | send killer squirrels to attack Esamynn |
| 14:43.37 | Shirik | Cairenn, why are you still awake |
| 14:43.58 | Seerah | yeah, that is weird that she's on and I'm eating my breakfast.... |
| 14:44.17 | AckisWork | what's for breakfast? |
| 14:44.23 | Seerah | coco puffs! |
| 14:44.34 | Cairenn | when it was just a few of us back in F&FA, didn't matter that there were only a few that could invite |
| 14:44.43 | AckisWork | yummy! |
| 14:44.49 | Cairenn | Shirik, Seerah: because I'm not asleep yet? |
| 14:44.58 | Shirik | this is bad! |
| 14:45.31 | laeg | i just transferred by character to another realm and he doesn't have my mod settings and macros etc - is there any reason i shouldn't copy a backup of my old saved variables into the new realm saved variables? |
| 14:45.31 | Seerah | .... |
| 14:45.34 | Seerah | did it work? |
| 14:45.37 | AckisWork | s/out/up/ ? |
| 14:46.20 | Seerah | laeg: take your character's folder from one realm folder and put it in the new realm folder |
| 14:46.30 | laeg | ya that's what i mean |
| 14:46.38 | Seerah | some mods store your settings in the global file, though, under realm-character |
| 14:46.39 | laeg | i'm just wondering if there'll be any conflicts |
| 14:46.49 | Cairenn | Anaral: char name? |
| 14:46.50 | Seerah | so if you really want those, you'll have to open up the sv files and find/replace |
| 14:46.51 | Anaral | Cairenn, Neuro doesn't have the ability. But since you need sleep, I'll catch you or someone else tonight. |
| 14:46.54 | Anaral | Anaral |
| 14:46.57 | Seerah | laeg: no |
| 14:47.04 | laeg | Seerah: ok thanks, appreciate it ;) |
| 14:47.51 | Cairenn | every time I get ready to go sleep, something else happens that needs my attention |
| 14:48.14 | laeg | seerah i changed his name from shyster to shysterlol |
| 14:48.24 | Seerah | then change the name of the folder |
| 14:48.25 | laeg | Seerah: will this matter? |
| 14:48.29 | Shirik|Ecole | Nom-: ping? |
| 14:48.30 | laeg | ya i know lol |
| 14:48.33 | laeg | i mean apart form that :) |
| 14:48.35 | End | Cairenn: go sleep! |
| 14:48.48 | End | ;-) |
| 14:48.55 | laeg | will any of the files be bound to the name shyster? |
| 14:49.03 | laeg | i have changed the name i'm just wondering if there's anything else |
| 14:49.05 | Seerah | laeg: what did I say above? :) |
| 14:49.08 | laeg | lol |
| 14:49.10 | laeg | ok ok :) |
| 14:49.18 | laeg | ty |
| 14:49.35 | Seerah | Ack! there's 2 shiriks again!!!!! |
| 14:49.56 | Shirik | that's because I actually got out of bed |
| 14:50.15 | |pez| | I want to go to bed. |
| 14:50.48 | Seerah | you haven't slept yet either, |pez|? |
| 14:51.00 | Seerah | :( |
| 14:51.05 | |pez| | Oh, I slept lots today actually. But I'm kinda drowsy. |
| 14:51.13 | |pez| | Been forgetting my meds for the last 1.5 weeks. |
| 14:51.18 | Shirik | WOW! |
| 14:51.20 | Seerah | I got woken up at 7:30 by workers outside my window taking a chunk of the sidewalk out :( |
| 14:51.24 | Shirik | I already broke beta, and I haven't even installed it yet |
| 14:51.26 | Shirik | that's awesome |
| 14:51.33 | AckisWork | grats shirik |
| 14:51.36 | Seerah | lol |
| 14:51.42 | |pez| | good job. |
| 14:52.13 | Shirik | Apparently accidentally clicking the CD drive instead of the drive you want to install it to locks up the installer >.> |
| 14:52.18 | Kirkburn | lol, 170g for a Hair Trigger |
| 14:52.35 | Kirkburn | I bought it, of course |
| 14:52.54 | |pez| | Hair Trigger? 0.o |
| 14:53.03 | Kirkburn | It's needed for a Borean Tundra quest |
| 14:53.04 | Cairenn | is that anything like a rabbit switch? |
| 14:53.13 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 14:53.15 | Funkeh` | more people should log off in IF |
| 14:53.17 | Kirkburn | Absolutely |
| 14:53.27 | Kirkburn | Uh, why? |
| 14:53.30 | Funkeh` | got like 5 whispers of people in the most random azeroth places |
| 14:53.35 | Pneumatus | more people should go to dalaran and visit Abracadabra |
| 14:53.39 | doow | IF is so far from everything right now |
| 14:53.39 | Pneumatus | i love standing here watching people |
| 14:54.09 | AckisWork | my 70 is parked in dalaran by trainers lol |
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| 14:54.49 | foxlit | Funkeh`: make them all come to Light's Hope, clearly :) |
| 14:55.13 | foxlit | Where are you now, btw? |
| 14:55.17 | Funkeh` | IF |
| 14:55.33 | Kirkburn | dancing the night away |
| 14:55.48 | doow | how many more signs do you need Funkeh` ? |
| 14:56.00 | Kirkburn | Pneumatus, that's mean! |
| 14:56.09 | Funkeh` | 6/9 |
| 14:56.11 | erikd | are you guys on the pve or pvp server? |
| 14:56.22 | Funkeh` | eu only has pve |
| 14:56.27 | erikd | ah |
| 14:56.33 | Kirkburn | Also, coding on PvP is probably not so much fun |
| 14:56.37 | erikd | i'm still waiting for them to fix the blizzcon debacle >< |
| 14:56.40 | Kirkburn | Being dead 90% of the time ... |
| 14:57.04 | AckisWork | Kirkburn: you have no idea how many times I've died while doing code changes hehe |
| 14:57.06 | Kirkburn | foxlit, you are Korrow? |
| 14:57.07 | foxlit | stay in cities! |
| 14:57.45 | Nom- | hmm is there not a 'next' statement in lua ? |
| 14:57.48 | Funkeh` | 7/9 |
| 14:57.48 | foxlit | Kirkburn: yes, although that's intentionally missing from the wiki :) |
| 14:57.58 | erikd | i logged on my druid on a pve realm that my friend finished leveling to 70 for me (after i abandoned him at 50 a month after wow came out) and it was so weird in the open world |
| 14:58.00 | Nom- | ie. for ... do ... if something then next end end |
| 14:58.07 | erikd | i'd see horde and all i could do was wave |
| 14:58.13 | doow | Funkeh`: yeah, that was me =) |
| 14:58.33 | Funkeh` | 8/9 |
| 14:58.40 | Funkeh` | ;p |
| 14:58.58 | doow | =) |
| 14:58.59 | foxlit | Funkeh`: signed mine yet? :) |
| 14:59.20 | Funkeh` | my horde isn't copied yet |
| 14:59.28 | Pneumatus | i wonder how much haste i need to get instacast flash heal |
| 14:59.32 | foxlit | gogo level 1 troll :) |
| 14:59.38 | foxlit | Pneumatus: inf |
| 14:59.40 | Funkeh` | no thanks ;p |
| 14:59.57 | Pneumatus | 0.1sec then |
| 15:00.41 | foxlit | You still have a 1s gcd |
| 15:01.17 | Pneumatus | oh yeh :< |
| 15:01.31 | Pneumatus | i get 0.6 sec from clearcast procs |
| 15:01.51 | selckin | heroism +drum = 1 scond holy light |
| 15:01.59 | Cairenn | okay, that's it |
| 15:02.21 | Seerah | delayed reaction from my whack |
| 15:02.22 | Stanzilla | 8/9 gogo! :D |
| 15:02.26 | Kirkburn | Night Cairenn|afk |
| 15:02.32 | zenzelezz | only Illidan left then zomg |
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| 15:13.50 | cog|sleep | is there any way to get windows (vista) to only swap RAM to disk only if it absolutely must? It's really annoying to see it load a large program into ram (e.g. an installer), then swap the thing to disk, only to have to re-read it into RAM while doing the installation... |
| 15:14.14 | AckisWork | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AzpByR3MvI&feature=related |
| 15:14.27 | Maldivia | disable swap ?:) |
| 15:14.30 | foxlit | Why would an installer be a large problem? :) |
| 15:14.43 | foxlit | s/blem/gram/ |
| 15:15.00 | Kirkburn | foxlit, well, the WoW patches are massive installers :P |
| 15:15.13 | foxlit | That's because they mostly contain data |
| 15:15.19 | cog|sleep | exactly |
| 15:15.24 | Kirkburn | cog|sleep, how much ram do you have? |
| 15:15.27 | foxlit | The actual executable is probably small, and that's what's loaded to ram |
| 15:15.28 | cog|sleep | 6gb |
| 15:16.07 | Kirkburn | Hmm, then it could probably cope without a swap, but no guarantees from me :P |
| 15:16.12 | cog|sleep | foxlit: I was installing the directx sdk. It loaded it all into ram at first then started swapping most of it out to disk. perhaps it was just extracting files to the temp folder? |
| 15:16.34 | foxlit | To be honest, I don't have a clue :) |
| 15:17.56 | Kirkburn | My PC has two pagefiles, go me :P |
| 15:18.12 | foxlit | You'd think the OS would be able to separate the executable part of the executable from the appended data chunk, but I don't know whether it does that |
| 15:18.34 | foxlit | Everything else is really up to the installer itself - does it want to load the entire file into memory and only then process it, or is it somewhat sane? :) |
| 15:18.37 | cog|sleep | Shirik might |
| 15:18.49 | Funkeh` | still need 1 more signature on alliance |
| 15:18.55 | Funkeh` | wu |
| 15:19.00 | Funkeh` | arg |
| 15:19.01 | Funkeh` | eu |
| 15:19.37 | Shirik | cogwheel: I don't really have a good answer for that |
| 15:19.37 | foxlit | About the same on Horde |
| 15:19.40 | Shirik | you can turn off swap |
| 15:19.43 | Shirik | that's the only real answer I have for you |
| 15:19.50 | foxlit | I thought there was a registry setting |
| 15:20.04 | Kirkburn | C'mon, get Funkeh his sig! |
| 15:20.21 | cogwheel | i meant maybe you knew whether the whole program was loaded into ram or just the executable bits and necessary data |
| 15:20.49 | foxlit | If I make a .exe file by appending a gigabyte of junk to the end of an existing .exe, would it load the junk? |
| 15:22.28 | cogwheel | what I saw occurring was an immediate spike in memory usage, followed by slow decrease, then when the installer started running 4rl, page faults skyrocketed |
| 15:22.51 | cogwheel | slow decrease was accompanied by HD churn |
| 15:23.10 | cogwheel | looks like a duck to me |
| 15:25.58 | Shirik | so, who's going to invite me to beta guilds |
| 15:26.07 | foxlit | Shirik: continent, faction |
| 15:26.16 | Shirik | US, yes |
| 15:26.41 | cogwheel | Shirik: name on alliance? |
| 15:26.45 | Shirik | Shirik |
| 15:27.32 | Funkeh` | been sitting here 2 hours, can I have 1 more sig so I can go level? ;p |
| 15:28.16 | selckin | ask some radom person that walks by :( |
| 15:28.33 | Pneumatus | yeh just spam click it on random unguilded people |
| 15:28.36 | Pneumatus | someone is bound to sign it |
| 15:28.46 | selckin | how rude |
| 15:30.07 | Stanzilla | we has guild nau :D |
| 15:30.17 | nevcairiel | \o/ |
| 15:30.25 | Fisker- | i heart you Shirik |
| 15:32.05 | zenzelezz | I think your misspelt "hurt" |
| 15:32.14 | zenzelezz | oh, the irony of typoing that sentence |
| 15:32.25 | zenzelezz | I always fail when it counts |
| 15:33.43 | Shirik | Time for study |
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| 15:35.56 | Maldivia | Cairenn: that wasn't much sleep you got? |
| 15:36.06 | Maldivia | hmm, nevermind |
| 15:36.17 | End | maybe she's actually sleeping now |
| 15:36.20 | End | don't wake her! |
| 15:36.29 | foxlit | ping some more and find out |
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| 15:36.33 | Maldivia | yeah, had hit some key, so was at the top of my backlog :) |
| 15:38.29 | Anaral | Has anyone been gracious enough to post a mats list for leveling inscription yet? |
| 15:38.48 | Pneumatus | you can only get it to 130ish at the moment |
| 15:38.52 | Fisker- | you can't level inscription yet |
| 15:39.00 | Pneumatus | due to a lack of early patterns |
| 15:39.02 | Fisker- | well to the 130ish :P |
| 15:39.16 | Fisker- | hopefully some new will come in the next patch |
| 15:39.49 | Pneumatus | add some new stuff for ocd Ackis to play with |
| 15:42.43 | Fisker- | aka your mom, etc. |
| 15:43.06 | Fisker- | argh |
| 15:43.09 | Fisker- | my shadow has no animation |
| 15:43.31 | Pneumatus | shadows are a bit of a mess atm |
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| 15:49.36 | Kirkburn | Funkeh`, Alliance guild made yet? |
| 15:49.50 | Kirkburn | foxlit needs just one more :P |
| 15:50.50 | foxlit | I think I'll get that in a bit, just going to involve some flying |
| 15:51.33 | Anaral | Kirkburn: Aye, for addon devs alliance pve is <Secure Templars> |
| 15:51.55 | foxlit | Kirk is on EU, though |
| 15:52.00 | Anaral | Ah |
| 15:52.01 | Lonny`zZz | That's for the US isn't ? |
| 15:52.09 | Anaral | Aye |
| 15:52.15 | foxlit | so that's <Tainted and Secure> according to Cairenn |
| 15:52.21 | Anaral | Thought you euros would be at work. :p |
| 15:52.52 | cogwheel | foxlit: "It's important to note that PE files are not just mapped into memory as a single memory-mapped file. Instead, the Windows loader looks at the PE file and decides what portions of the file to map in." |
| 15:53.10 | foxlit | so it's essentially what I thought it was? :) |
| 15:53.29 | cogwheel | yep... but i haven't found out how it decides what portions to map in... |
| 15:53.33 | cogwheel | so it could still be loading it all |
| 15:54.12 | zenzelezz | what is this in relation to, cogwheel? |
| 15:55.06 | cogwheel | zenzelezz: a few msgs above your "I think you misspelt 'hurt'" |
| 15:57.56 | zenzelezz | aha. I don't know enough details to say much about that |
| 16:03.40 | Funkeh` | Kirkburn, it's amde aye |
| 16:03.44 | Funkeh` | made |
| 16:03.47 | Funkeh` | I'm leveling at last |
| 16:03.49 | Kirkburn | woo |
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| 16:10.11 | ReAn | Woot! Pushed my WotLK Mod Live! |
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| 16:10.19 | ReAn | Just gotta wait for it to be approved |
| 16:10.23 | ReAn | *sits patiently* |
| 16:12.38 | Shirik|Ecole | RuneWatch? |
| 16:13.15 | ReAn | yes |
| 16:14.25 | Shirik|Ecole | I have no idea what it does, but there you go :P I don't know enough about DKs (and probably don't want to know) |
| 16:14.39 | ReAn | screenshot sais it all |
| 16:14.42 | ReAn | but thanks! |
| 16:14.48 | Shirik|Ecole | screenshot has a bunch of numbers that mean nothing to me :P |
| 16:15.09 | ReAn | essentially it's an improved combo-points (runes) display for DK's |
| 16:15.21 | Shirik|Ecole | ok |
| 16:15.26 | ReAn | cuz the blizzard one is made of fail |
| 16:15.40 | erikd | wow, it's not just full of fail but it's MADE of it :) |
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| 16:23.37 | Industrial | anyone done that persuasion quest? how do i do it? |
| 16:24.10 | foxlit | Hit people. |
| 16:24.13 | foxlit | End of quest :) |
| 16:24.36 | foxlit | equip his swords, and keep meleeing until something talks. |
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| 16:27.16 | Iriel | Random lua observation of the day -- if you're inserting 3 entries into the middle of an array it's faster to do the 'shift' with a for loop rather than calling table.insert 3 times. |
| 16:27.29 | Jesusfreak77 | anyone know of any add on working for LK? |
| 16:27.38 | Iriel | DevTools works |
| 16:27.54 | Iriel | Well, bits of it do |
| 16:28.03 | cogwheel | Jesusfreak77: there's a whole thread on working addons in the ui & macros forum |
| 16:28.03 | Anaral | Cart3 works. |
| 16:28.11 | ReAn | Jesusfreak77: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=10133 <--- does ~_^ (*wink*wink*) |
| 16:28.19 | Jesusfreak77 | rhats what I am finding is part works of a few |
| 16:28.25 | Anaral | As does Xparky, SLDataText, and a few other small mods. |
| 16:28.59 | ReAn | Bartender4 works |
| 16:30.20 | Jesusfreak77 | cool I use BartrndAR |
| 16:33.45 | Jesusfreak77 | Thanks for the thread Anaral |
| 16:34.06 | Jesusfreak77 | good stuff |
| 16:34.24 | Anaral | ReAn gave it to you... not me. ;) |
| 16:36.19 | Anaral | Is Baggins the only bag addon that will work? |
| 16:36.51 | Jesusfreak77 | hah eys going bad |
| 16:36.58 | Jesusfreak77 | eyes |
| 16:37.50 | Jesusfreak77 | I think Im getting to old to run resolution at 1680by 1050 |
| 16:38.16 | Iriel | That's meaningless without a monitor size 8-) |
| 16:38.38 | Jesusfreak77 | ha wow how did you know my screen size |
| 16:38.40 | Iriel | Though TBH a higher resolution is always better, it's the size of the fonts you pick that generally determines how readable it is |
| 16:39.14 | Iriel | 1920 x 1200 on a 17" laptop screen is lovely, with suitably sized fonts |
| 16:39.15 | ReAn | Anaral: Combuctor works |
| 16:39.16 | Jesusfreak77 | well if you run it at a lower res txt is larger |
| 16:39.24 | Iriel | larger but rougher |
| 16:39.35 | Iriel | (and with today's LCD's, you're silly to run at any resolution other than the native) |
| 16:40.05 | Iriel | (unless you're using an ancient app with no scaling) |
| 16:40.25 | Jesusfreak77 | I have 2 22in wide screen so txt is small |
| 16:40.35 | NightHawkAtWork | that's what font sizes are for. ;) |
| 16:41.10 | Jesusfreak77 | yah it to normaly a problem .. yet |
| 16:42.18 | Jesusfreak77 | not |
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| 16:42.19 | Jesusfreak77 | its prb just not having my coffee yet |
| 16:42.24 | Anaral | Why would Combuctor but not Bagnon work in LK? |
| 16:43.22 | ReAn | cuz combuctor was updated? |
| 16:43.32 | p3lim | Funkeh`: stop killing me! :< |
| 16:43.52 | schnoggo | uh... I'm failing at forum... Alliance dev guild on pve server? |
| 16:43.52 | Funkeh` | hahaha |
| 16:43.54 | Anaral | Nvm, it actually was user error... I had all the bagnon folders in a separate folder. |
| 16:44.25 | p3lim | im more or less forced to play horde until my char arrives |
| 16:44.39 | Pneumatus | go do the DK starting area |
| 16:44.42 | Pneumatus | for the lols |
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| 16:47.29 | p3lim | Cant |
| 16:47.36 | p3lim | and yeah, i know about te bugged npc |
| 16:47.43 | p3lim | I know how to reach him :) |
| 16:48.13 | p3lim | lamers |
| 16:48.29 | p3lim | give me a 1 on 1 funkeh |
| 16:48.48 | Funkeh` | haha |
| 16:48.51 | Funkeh` | at 58/ :P |
| 16:48.58 | p3lim | well you are two |
| 16:49.03 | p3lim | and i have low skill with polearms |
| 16:49.12 | p3lim | kinda unfair |
| 16:49.39 | Funkeh` | oh wow |
| 16:49.42 | Funkeh` | pvp has a timer |
| 16:49.44 | Funkeh` | nice |
| 16:50.00 | Pneumatus | yeh, its handy |
| 16:50.16 | p3lim | and lol, youre pvp specced even |
| 16:50.19 | Pneumatus | only on pve realms tho i believe, not that it would make sense on pvp realms |
| 16:51.14 | Aella | It'd make sense in faction-controlled zones |
| 16:52.10 | Pneumatus | yeh, i guess actually |
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| 16:56.33 | Dashkal | remember the I am rich iPhone app? *facepalm* http://entertainment.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/08/08/1347212 |
| 16:57.30 | Iriel | I image the probability those purchases were made with stolen credit cards is rather high |
| 16:57.36 | Iriel | so likely the developer walks away with nothing |
| 16:58.34 | Fisker- | nah |
| 16:58.49 | Fisker- | You seem to forget just who buys that sort of crap |
| 16:59.15 | Iriel | People who really have an iPhone and $1,000 to spare are unlikely THAT stupid |
| 16:59.24 | Fisker- | I disagree |
| 16:59.56 | Dashkal | Unlikely, certainly. 8 people in the hordes of iPhone owners... lots of die rolls there |
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| 17:04.23 | p3lim | lol 3vs1+mob |
| 17:04.31 | p3lim | mob+3vs1 actually |
| 17:04.56 | p3lim | play fair atleast |
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| 17:16.24 | cncfanatics | hmmm, I'm trying a new coding style |
| 17:16.36 | Anaral | How so? |
| 17:16.39 | cncfanatics | anything wrong with using locals for most stuff instead of storing stuff in an addon table ? |
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| 17:17.49 | Anaral | dont think so |
| 17:20.27 | Kaso | Better hope noone else wants to interface with your addon |
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| 17:22.48 | Aella | Or just provide a public interface for those locals |
| 17:23.22 | cncfanatics | Kaso: its a raid tracker for my guild |
| 17:23.27 | cncfanatics | so I doubt anything ever has to interface with it :p |
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| 17:23.58 | DonQuestion | Hi folks! |
| 17:24.01 | Aella | Hi |
| 17:25.14 | Neo|Home | cncfanatics: the main benefit of stuff in an addon table is that you don't have to worry about the order you place the items in the file |
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| 17:25.51 | DonQuestion | If i want to acces a xml-defined frame from a lua script, is it sufficient do call: frame = getglobal ("FrameNameAsInXmlFile"); frame:Show(); ? |
| 17:26.09 | Aella | Just do FrameNameAsInXmlFile:Show() |
| 17:26.17 | Aella | They're in the same environment. |
| 17:26.21 | DonQuestion | Tried but doesnt work |
| 17:26.31 | Aella | Then your lua file is probably loading before your xml file. |
| 17:26.44 | cncfanatics | or the frame in question is a template |
| 17:26.47 | cncfanatics | and not an actual frame |
| 17:27.13 | DonQuestion | ok, just a secon! do i have to restart wow or just reload the gui? |
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| 17:27.20 | Aella | just reload. |
| 17:27.24 | DonQuestion | k thx |
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| 17:29.11 | DonQuestion | Hmm, doesnt change a Thing! i looked already for a typo, but cant find one! ? im a bit confused! |
| 17:29.23 | Aella | What order are the things listed in your .toc? |
| 17:29.25 | Kaso | Reload is sufficent solong as you haven't added a new file since last time |
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| 17:29.53 | DonQuestion | first the ace2 libs, then xml then lua |
| 17:30.09 | Aella | ...actually, I'd bet you'd have to restart the game if you changed the order in your ToC. |
| 17:30.17 | DonQuestion | ok ... |
| 17:31.21 | DonQuestion | same problem |
| 17:31.40 | Aella | Is there an error message? Could it be that your frame is simply invisible? |
| 17:31.58 | DonQuestion | No error, the getglobal delivers a nil value |
| 17:32.35 | DonQuestion | must be an error in my script, but it seems im blind |
| 17:32.42 | Kaso | using getglobal is silly (though it shouldnt be returning nil either) |
| 17:32.45 | Aella | Upload it to pastey |
| 17:32.52 | Kaso | perhaps if you pastey your toc and lua/xml we can take a look |
| 17:32.58 | Kaso | oh ello ^ |
| 17:34.04 | DonQuestion | ok - but dont laugh ^^ |
| 17:34.27 | Anaral | Does mail work in beta? |
| 17:34.28 | Kirov | hahahahahahaha .. oh, wait, "don't" |
| 17:34.56 | Kirov | DonQuestion - A lot of us have rediculously ugly code. :P |
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| 17:35.58 | DonQuestion | tox-file: http://www.pastey.net/93331 |
| 17:38.02 | Wikwocket | There are some cool and clever mods in the ROFL category of WoWI now |
| 17:38.13 | Wikwocket | I am impressed with some of the contest entries |
| 17:38.19 | Kaso | DonQuestion any more coming? |
| 17:38.43 | Aella | Like what, Wikwocket? |
| 17:38.46 | DonQuestion | sry, spamcheck Oo : xml : http://www.pastey.net/93332 |
| 17:39.06 | Kaso | the spamcheck is rather frustrating.. |
| 17:39.40 | Wikwocket | Aella: my favorite is the one that blanks your screen when you lose character control, I think it's hilarious |
| 17:39.46 | Aella | I agree =D |
| 17:39.55 | Wikwocket | but in general there are some cute ones, like critter talk and last words |
| 17:40.06 | Kirov | Wikwocket - that's a really old addon too |
| 17:40.10 | Wikwocket | and of course the arcade panel is amazing |
| 17:40.11 | DonQuestion | and finaly lua: http://www.pastey.net/93333 |
| 17:40.13 | Kirov | or at least the original idea |
| 17:40.38 | Wikwocket | I think the arcade panel was on curse back before TBC, good to see it reborn |
| 17:41.17 | DonQuestion | kirov: but no one has just this few lines with such a showtopper ;-) |
| 17:41.22 | Aella | DonQuestion: Looks like the frame doesn't have anchors, unless I'm missing something |
| 17:41.32 | Aella | But it's nil... hmm |
| 17:41.33 | DonQuestion | oh? thts it? |
| 17:41.56 | Kaso | it still shouldnt be nil |
| 17:42.09 | Kirov | the template is anchored to center |
| 17:42.13 | Aella | Check framexml.log, DonQuestion |
| 17:42.20 | DonQuestion | Should hav an anchor because the mainframe ist inherited from the template above |
| 17:42.27 | Aella | You might have a syntax error in your XML |
| 17:42.39 | Kirov | but I don't remember if parent is intrinsicly UIParent or not for XML |
| 17:44.06 | DonQuestion | maybe your right - just checked with q&d method firefox ^^ |
| 17:44.10 | Dashkal | hrm, if the olympic pet is a dragon this year... I'm afraid of what it'll be for the winter games. |
| 17:44.12 | DonQuestion | @Aella |
| 17:44.15 | Wikwocket | haha, from the screen blanker: "More protective than ever! Remember where you binded your PvP-trinket!" |
| 17:44.22 | Neo|Home | Dashkal: where is the winter games? |
| 17:44.31 | Dashkal | Right here in Vancouver, BC, Canada :p |
| 17:44.37 | Neo|Home | so.. a polar bear |
| 17:44.42 | Dashkal | Here's hoping for a beaver :p |
| 17:44.44 | Neo|Home | I'm sure you have them all over just like in Sweden |
| 17:44.56 | Neo|Home | walking the streets |
| 17:45.15 | Dashkal | Neo|Home: No, those are black bears, and they eat people (not kidding, bear attack two days ago) |
| 17:45.48 | Neo|Home | Black bares are just polar bares in disguise. Painted brown or black to fool you! |
| 17:45.58 | Dashkal | I believe it :p |
| 17:45.59 | Wikwocket | The implementation of ELIZA in an addon is clever too, you wonder how long it'd take an average pug to figure out they're talking to an addon... |
| 17:46.20 | Dashkal | Turing test ftw? |
| 17:47.20 | DonQuestion | Thans @all (esp. Aalla) missed a closing tag! Was so sure the error has to be in my lua code ;-) |
| 17:47.51 | Kaso | errors in xml are the worst, theres almost no visible signs |
| 17:48.56 | Dashkal | Having a tool check for well-formmedness helps, but I don't know of any such tools that aren't command-line offhand |
| 17:49.08 | Kaso | in xml? |
| 17:49.22 | Kaso | firefox works well enough to check the validity of youre xml |
| 17:49.26 | Kaso | your |
| 17:50.33 | Daedals | :O |
| 17:50.40 | Daedals | how to do that with ff? |
| 17:50.58 | Kirov | http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw16247.jpg - nice |
| 17:51.05 | Aella | Haha |
| 17:51.28 | Kaso | just drag the xml file into firefox |
| 17:52.03 | Daedals | Kirov what is that? :o |
| 17:52.23 | Kirov | Daedals - a 3d maze game ala wolfenstien 3d for WoW |
| 17:52.33 | Daedals | linklink? |
| 17:52.35 | Aella | Gah, what's happened to the Anywise Jabber-MSN gateway? /mourn |
| 17:52.43 | Kirov | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10018-Labyrinth3DMazeGame.html |
| 17:54.33 | Wikwocket | Yeah the 3D maze is amazing... you can do surprising things with graphics in wow addons |
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| 17:54.56 | Daedals | :) |
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| 17:55.31 | Wikwocket | I know everquest has a ccg minigame, maybe wow will be the first rpg with a FPS minigame hehe |
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| 17:56.09 | Kirov | the only problem with a wow fps would be tracking the mouse |
| 17:56.50 | Wikwocket | technically my mp3 player can run doom but yeah it has control input issues ;) |
| 17:56.54 | Kirov | if it's "hidden" ( right click ) you can't track it from the UI, and when it's not hidden it can get stuck at the sides. |
| 17:56.57 | Daedals | can you track mouse anchor somehow? |
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| 17:57.12 | cogwheel | why does waking up late (alarm clock malfunction) always make your day suck? |
| 17:57.26 | Wikwocket | TGIF cogwheel |
| 17:57.31 | cogwheel | srsly |
| 17:57.47 | Neo|Home | cogwheel: for me it's usuually "alarm clock function" that messes up my days |
| 17:57.56 | Neo|Home | it like wakes me up and stuff |
| 17:58.32 | cogwheel | Neo|Home: that's why I'm confused... I slept an hour longer than normal, but I feel worse than i do when i'm up at the normal time :P |
| 18:01.06 | ReAn | whoever is approving mod submissions, im sorry... and thankyou for not flogging me u.u |
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| 18:01.44 | Neo|Home | cogwheel: problably woke up during a deeper sleep than usual |
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| 18:03.46 | Neo|Home | nevcairiel: so Bartender 4 have a few issues. one of them is that the bars seems to drift (when I change scale/resolution at least) :P |
| 18:04.12 | nevcairiel | how often do you change scale? |
| 18:04.28 | Bouvi | That is weird. Bartender 4 has been working like a charm for me :) Does it work in LK? |
| 18:04.40 | Neo|Home | nevcairiel: every time I switch from fullscreen to windowed mode |
| 18:04.50 | Neo|Home | (OS X seems to do that) |
| 18:05.15 | Neo|Home | but mainly I guess it's lack of "snapping" together |
| 18:05.36 | Aella | Yeah, I notice that UI scale for me on OS X seems to fluctuate |
| 18:06.08 | Neo|Home | and I have to swap to windowed mode to move to another window, say my editor |
| 18:06.51 | Bouvi | Any reason not to stay in windowed mode? I always have it on with 2 monitors so that I can freely work in other things. |
| 18:07.42 | Wikwocket | When I keep wow in windowed mode, it tends to crash on alt-tab more frequently, but that's on XP |
| 18:07.56 | KarlKFI | maximized windowed mode ftw |
| 18:08.13 | Bouvi | I run it in windowed mode here on OS X and at home on XP. Never had an issue. |
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| 18:08.18 | Lunessa | STATION |
| 18:08.41 | Bouvi | But I have two monitors so I never alt tab. I just keep everything else on the 2nd. |
| 18:09.00 | Wikwocket | I am trying to steal someone's old flat panel so I can do the same :) |
| 18:11.28 | Neo|Home | Bouvi: well non-fullscreen window mode is annoying since, well, it' not fullscreen |
| 18:11.45 | Neo|Home | maximized windowed mode, on the mac, I still get the application mneu if I move to the top of the screen |
| 18:12.08 | Bouvi | Guess I never noticed it on my Mac lol. |
| 18:12.13 | Neo|Home | which annoys me primarily because I keep my fubar^H^H^H^H^HStatBlocks/ButtonBin on top |
| 18:12.30 | Neo|Home | every time i move the mouse up to click I get the app menu |
| 18:12.32 | Bouvi | Ahhh all my stuff is at the bottom |
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| 18:16.14 | KarlKFI | tip: make a 2nd fubar bar ont he top and put everything in the 2nd one |
| 18:16.30 | KarlKFI | then the mac menu only covers the top one |
| 18:17.09 | Lunessa | Others must have their brain cell counts reduced - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c6HsiixFS8 |
| 18:17.44 | Fisker- | oooooooooooold |
| 18:18.51 | Dashkal | oh god, stupid overload *kills window dead* |
| 18:19.03 | Lunessa | yes, but it's been linked to me three times today. I must share the stupid. |
| 18:19.56 | Bouvi | Lunessa: Check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c6HsiixFS8 |
| 18:20.12 | Aella | Well, woot, my add-on works now. Eating time. |
| 18:20.21 | Lunessa | hate you so much right now... |
| 18:20.33 | Bouvi | Most do, then they realize the hate is love. LOL |
| 18:20.54 | KarlKFI | H8<3 |
| 18:21.10 | Neo|Home | KarlKFI: that's sort of ... weird advice. :O I think I'll run fullscreen insted. heh |
| 18:21.36 | KarlKFI | fullscreen is full of fail when you have 2 monitors |
| 18:21.38 | Industrial | get a pc LOL |
| 18:21.42 | cncfanatics | hmmmm |
| 18:21.48 | cncfanatics | anyone installed wotlk on linux yet ? |
| 18:21.51 | cncfanatics | I can't get past the license agreement |
| 18:21.57 | cncfanatics | the accept button never lights up |
| 18:22.10 | KarlKFI | scroll to the bottom? |
| 18:22.13 | haste | hm? |
| 18:22.15 | Industrial | KarlKFI: lol. |
| 18:22.27 | Industrial | hm someone needs to make an addon quick for rune timers |
| 18:22.35 | haste | cncfanatics: there's a workaround for that, sec |
| 18:23.05 | Maldivia | Industrial: whats wrong with omnicc etc? |
| 18:23.05 | cncfanatics | KarlKFI: do you seriously think I'm that stupid :s |
| 18:23.10 | haste | cncfanatics: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=A71DAB5A71BD2CCF2B857CA96EC8D6DA.app11_07?topicId=8202277569&sid=2000 8. there |
| 18:23.16 | KarlKFI | >.> |
| 18:23.19 | KarlKFI | <.< |
| 18:23.29 | nevcairiel | haste the evil session id! |
| 18:23.32 | KarlKFI | you're using linux... |
| 18:23.34 | Industrial | hmm, I guess nothing Maldivia. I haven't tried any addons yet. |
| 18:23.48 | Maldivia | Industrial: but you'll get the feel for rune refresh very fast :) |
| 18:24.07 | Maldivia | except when death runes proc, and a wrong rune is used, and it totally fucks up your rotation :) |
| 18:24.15 | Anaral | Hmm, how do I fix my mount macro? |
| 18:24.32 | Dashkal | I found any sense of rotation went right out the window when death runes started proccing |
| 18:24.45 | Dashkal | Cause once they came up I"d just hammer on blood for the extra damage |
| 18:24.56 | haste | nevcairiel: blame google |
| 18:25.36 | cncfanatics | haste: so: WINEPREFIX=~/.ies4linux/ie6 wine Installer.exe |
| 18:25.38 | cncfanatics | will do ? |
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| 18:26.03 | haste | you need to start TBC once to get the paths into the registry |
| 18:26.05 | haste | then do that |
| 18:26.24 | haste | and you'll have to install ies4linux before all that |
| 18:26.33 | cncfanatics | I did ofc :p |
| 18:26.41 | KarlKFI | Anaral: for LK? |
| 18:26.43 | cncfanatics | not gonna use a wineprefix to a thing that doesn't exist |
| 18:26.46 | Anaral | Aye |
| 18:26.48 | Fisker- | cncfanatics my friend |
| 18:26.56 | KarlKFI | can't they're broken till next patch |
| 18:26.57 | cncfanatics | it works |
| 18:26.58 | cncfanatics | good |
| 18:27.05 | Anaral | bah |
| 18:27.09 | Fisker- | haste my friend? |
| 18:27.24 | ScytheBlade1 | haha, so, a few days ago I made a map of dalaran and threw a link on the general forums |
| 18:27.28 | KarlKFI | you can make a /script macro if oyu want, but you cant use those nice macro conditionals |
| 18:27.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Didn't get a lot of hits out of that, maybe 200 |
| 18:27.42 | Fisker- | sauce? |
| 18:28.05 | Aella|Consuming | Cogwheel has an addon to add a /mount that works with conditionals |
| 18:28.05 | ScytheBlade1 | But what I did get.. was the image hotlink on wotlkwiki |
| 18:28.07 | ScytheBlade1 | http://wotlkwiki.info/index.php/Images#tab=Maps |
| 18:28.11 | Anaral | okay, so what would be the script to change stance and mount? |
| 18:28.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Second image there on the Maps tab |
| 18:28.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Anaral: that macro changeed entirely for mounts, you're better off just hard-coding a land mount and a flying mount for now until bugs are fixed |
| 18:28.43 | Anaral | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.51 | |pez| | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaAX4adkMBk&NR=1 |
| 18:28.51 | ScytheBlade1 | (If you're talking about beta) |
| 18:28.53 | |pez| | :P |
| 18:29.04 | Anaral | ScytheBlade1: I am. :) |
| 18:29.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Anaral: the zones are incorrectly 'labeled' for flying/no flying, so if you're 70 and in the starting zone (without Cold Weather Flying....) it still reads your flying mount as usable, and then fails to use it. Just hard-code a land mount |
| 18:30.03 | Fisker- | http://www.blizzard.com/blizzcon/ <-omg Tyrael i think they'll announce D3 soon! |
| 18:30.30 | Aella | Anaral: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9869-BlazingSaddles.html |
| 18:30.33 | Aella | It's not Cogwheel, it' |
| 18:30.41 | Dashkal | |pez|: I hate you... |
| 18:30.42 | Aella | It's Alestane, my bad |
| 18:31.05 | cncfanatics | whats the easyest way to loop through all members currently in the raid ? |
| 18:31.05 | Anaral | I'm more concerned about my land mount. Casting Swift Flight Form auto changes the stance. So I just need a script to go from boomkin to summoning mount. |
| 18:32.01 | KarlKFI | with your cursor |
| 18:32.10 | Kirov | Fisker - they're actually going to announce the archangel class they're adding in the expansion after WotLK |
| 18:32.19 | Kemayo | Crap -- the wotlk installer doesn't quite work under Wine. |
| 18:32.26 | Anaral | Aella: Thank you for the link. It's exactly what I want. :D |
| 18:32.39 | Kirov | cncfanatics - for i=1, GetNumRaidMembers() do |
| 18:32.55 | Kemayo | It doesn't notice the terms and condition has been scrolled to the bottom, so you can't progress. |
| 18:33.29 | Kemayo | Aha, spoken of a mere 10 minutes ago. |
| 18:33.33 | cncfanatics | Kirov: if some people are in group 8 |
| 18:33.37 | cncfanatics | and the rest are in group 1 |
| 18:33.39 | Fisker- | awesum Kirov |
| 18:33.42 | cncfanatics | how would I figure all their names ? |
| 18:33.44 | Fisker- | Do want patch today ;_; |
| 18:34.10 | Aella | for i = 1, NUM_RAID_MEMBERS do if UnitExists("raid"..i) then ... end end |
| 18:35.17 | Kirov | cncfanatics - raid unitids for all members of the raid are sequentially 1 - the number of players in the group. |
| 18:35.40 | Aella | s/NUM_RAID_MEMBERS/MAX_RAID_MEMBERS/ |
| 18:35.40 | Kirov | Their subgroup in the raid is not encoded in their raidid |
| 18:36.00 | cncfanatics | so, raid1 can be someone in group 8 ? :o |
| 18:36.09 | Aella | Kirov: isn't it possible for three people to join and the middle one to leave, so that we've got raid1 and raid3? |
| 18:36.12 | Kirov | cncfanatics - yes |
| 18:36.18 | cncfanatics | Aella: they'd probably get reordered |
| 18:36.28 | Aella | At one point they didn't |
| 18:36.36 | Kirov | Aella - yes, they are reordered every time they leave. |
| 18:36.48 | Aella | Interesting, sounds good |
| 18:37.05 | Kirov | The raid leader is raid1, you are always raidn (the last member in the raid list) unless you're the leader. |
| 18:37.24 | Kirov | The raid ids are completely different for every player. |
| 18:37.42 | Kirov | (raid4 for one person is not raid4 for another) |
| 18:37.50 | Kirov | apart from raid1 |
| 18:38.10 | cncfanatics | I see |
| 18:38.11 | cncfanatics | tnx |
| 18:38.15 | Kirov | subgroup information is obtained through GetRaidRosterInfo(i) |
| 18:38.44 | Kirov | "raid"..i and GetRaidRosterInfo(i) refer to the same unit |
| 18:42.27 | Lunessa | Heh.. which one of you is "defaultui"? |
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| 18:44.37 | cncfanatics | so, basicly |
| 18:44.39 | cncfanatics | if I want to figure who left |
| 18:44.42 | cncfanatics | or who joined |
| 18:44.45 | cncfanatics | I have to parse the chatlog ? |
| 18:45.37 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd be one way, doesn't the event that fires tell you who left though? |
| 18:46.02 | Pneumatus | or maybe store a list of the raid on every RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE |
| 18:46.11 | Pneumatus | and compare |
| 18:46.12 | Lunessa | this ^^ |
| 18:46.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup. If I'm wrong on that then that is what you get to do. |
| 18:46.59 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd consider checking out how the UI displays "X has left the raid" though - they have it in a simple manner.. |
| 18:47.00 | Anaral | Is GetItemSellValue a user defined function or blizz? I don't have my browser open at the moment. |
| 18:47.06 | Aella | Well, you get a system message, but you'd have to parse that |
| 18:47.14 | cncfanatics | Pneumatus: wouldn't that be more memory intensive and error prone then the chat parsing ? |
| 18:47.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Anaral: no, it's a community defined standard |
| 18:47.40 | Anaral | Thank ye |
| 18:47.47 | Pneumatus | i can't see how it would be error prone, but possibly more memory intensive |
| 18:48.04 | Aella | ERR_RAID_MEMBER_ADDED_S and ERR_RAID_MEMBER_REMOVED_S are the messages the game sends |
| 18:48.05 | cncfanatics | bugs in the code :) |
| 18:48.11 | Pneumatus | raid_roster_update fires on raid creation, loot rule change and join/leave |
| 18:48.13 | cncfanatics | more code to make, so more room for errors |
| 18:48.26 | Lunessa | omg free cinnebon... |
| 18:48.56 | Wikwocket | ! |
| 18:49.09 | Anaral | SHARE! |
| 18:49.53 | Lunessa | so good. |
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| 18:51.13 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm totally with the "SHARE!" |
| 18:51.18 | Aella | chatMessage:match(ERR_RAID_MEMBER_REMOVED_S:gsub("%%s", "(%w+)")) should get the name of the leaving member |
| 18:51.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Also see: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2005/03/23/ (re: Cinnabon) |
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| 18:55.28 | Tekkub | Cairenn|afk, http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_FBXGhy-QmVw/SJwvFZ1HJLI/AAAAAAAAB8w/jFRU5xF81BU/s320/card1703.JPG |
| 18:56.13 | Arrowmaster | Aella: no it wont |
| 18:56.28 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 18:56.32 | ScytheBlade1 | @ Tekkub's image |
| 18:56.33 | ScytheBlade1 | hahahaha |
| 18:58.23 | Aella | Arrowmaster: you're right, I forgot to escape a % |
| 18:58.50 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 18:59.09 | Arrowmaster | you should use "(.-)" instead of "(%w+)" |
| 18:59.52 | Aella | Yeah, that would probably be more locale-friendly |
| 19:00.04 | Arrowmaster | %w will make it fail there |
| 19:00.15 | Tekkub | Cairenn|afk, also, http://blog.craigslist.org/2008/08/couch-for-sale/ |
| 19:01.06 | Fisker- | Tekkub no you are a couch for sale |
| 19:02.17 | Anaral | What would be the call for the line----> frame:AddLine( "Value: ".. ) ----I'm using Tekkub's wowwiki code. |
| 19:02.28 | Fisker- | no news on if we're going to get a new beta patch today? |
| 19:06.18 | Thunder_Child | no noose is good noose |
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| 19:16.50 | cncfanatics | what CHAT_MSG event gets triggered with the X has left the raid. message ? |
| 19:16.53 | cncfanatics | can't find it on wowwiki |
| 19:17.18 | cncfanatics | CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM ? |
| 19:18.09 | Aella | Think it's SYSTEM, yeah |
| 19:18.22 | Aella | It certainly uses ChatTypeInfo["SYSTEM"] |
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| 19:24.54 | haste | /r/ guild invite on horde eu -Ivarto |
| 19:26.01 | AckisWork | has anyone tested on beta if the mob death event passes the name of the mob? |
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| 19:29.28 | cogwheel | foxlit: i figured it out... When you compile an exe, everything there is part of the image. this includes all the code, static data, and resources for the program itself. if you store the installer files in the resource section, it does indeed get loaded and that seems to be the case with most MS installers |
| 19:29.48 | cogwheel | another way to add data is just to append it to teh end of the file |
| 19:30.04 | cogwheel | in that case, only the original exe is loaded into memory at the start of execution |
| 19:30.50 | cogwheel | to get at the data, you would load the exe file from disk and navigate to the beginning of your appended data |
| 19:31.02 | Kalroth | yeah, that's called overlays, can make up to MAXINT executeables that way :) |
| 19:31.15 | Kalroth | sized* |
| 19:33.10 | cogwheel | Kalroth: this topic came up 'cause i was frustrated by Windows swapping an installer to disk when it wasn't necessary. I still had about 3 gigs of ram to spare. So it loaded the whole file, swapped a bunch to disk, then had to unswap in order to do the installation. |
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| 19:33.31 | Kalroth | Ahh |
| 19:33.52 | devXero | hey, has anyone gotten their addons to load in beta? |
| 19:34.04 | Pneumatus | yes, thanks |
| 19:34.21 | devXero | hmmm... I wonder what I'm doing wrong |
| 19:34.35 | Kalroth | devXero: http://elitistjerks.com/f32/t29033-wotlk_beta_-_working_addons/ |
| 19:34.38 | KarlKFI | http://blog.craigslist.org/images/dirt.jpg |
| 19:34.38 | cogwheel | devXero: by "their addons" what do you mean? |
| 19:34.42 | AckisWork | click out of date addons? |
| 19:34.47 | cogwheel | the ones they wrote or the ones they use? |
| 19:34.58 | Anaral | It doesn't like some of the user defined functions, so they don't work. |
| 19:35.03 | devXero | cogwheel: any addons that anyone here may have developed |
| 19:35.13 | devXero | AckisWork: I did make sure out of date was selected |
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| 19:36.42 | cogwheel | I got BuyEmAll working after a bit of tweaking... haven't bothered to upload it anywhere yet though |
| 19:38.48 | devXero | hmm... still red even after load out of date addons is checked... |
| 19:39.05 | devXero | dependancy maybe |
| 19:39.10 | Shirik | Can anyone good with regexes confirm for me real quick that this will match any dot file? \/\..+ |
| 19:39.16 | Shirik | It just looks... odd |
| 19:39.32 | Pneumatus | looks right to me |
| 19:39.42 | devXero | Shirik: looks ok to me as well |
| 19:39.54 | Shirik | thanks |
| 19:40.02 | Shirik | let's see if fisheye agrees then |
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| 19:41.36 | devXero | ah, TalentUI dependency |
| 19:41.38 | devXero | meh |
| 19:46.54 | Anaral | Blazing Saddles doesn't work for me. :( |
| 19:47.07 | Anaral | Do I need to put the mount name or something? |
| 19:47.18 | Pneumatus | that sounds like a mount addon, so its not liable to work unless its been updated |
| 19:47.37 | Anaral | It was made for LK. :p |
| 19:47.51 | Pneumatus | nfi then lol |
| 19:48.10 | Aella | It was /mount <name>, I thought |
| 19:48.15 | Pneumatus | im waiting for AckisRecipiePetAndMountAndProbablyTabbardList |
| 19:48.36 | Anaral | I'm wanting a working ARL first. ;) |
| 19:48.57 | Pneumatus | i thought i saw him say ARL was working |
| 19:50.45 | Anaral | It throws up a bunch of lib errors and won't open. |
| 19:50.57 | Aella | The WotLK version? |
| 19:51.15 | Anaral | Aye |
| 19:52.11 | Shirik | hrm, fisheye does not agree with that pattern :( |
| 19:52.17 | Shirik | I must be using it wrong |
| 19:52.37 | Kalroth | ~failrik |
| 19:52.38 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 19:52.41 | devXero | Shirik: what are you going to be using that pattern with? command line? |
| 19:52.49 | Shirik | fisheye admin panel |
| 19:52.52 | Shirik | for "excludes" |
| 19:52.52 | devXero | ah |
| 19:52.53 | frop | mmmh, could someone help me? how could i intercept the Omen "show" event in kgpanel? |
| 19:53.10 | Shirik | I don't want it to be indexing all the internal project files |
| 19:53.14 | Shirik | it's pointless, they're auto-generated |
| 19:53.30 | Shirik | and it keeps making the crucible reviews with those files and I'm like gtfo and have to manually remove them from the review >< |
| 19:53.56 | Lonny` | Hmm, anyone knows something about the character features on the character selection screen ? as far as it seems you can't change anything whenever a DK is selected ? |
| 19:54.27 | Dashkal | Lonny`: It appears that appearance features aren't yet implemented for DKs |
| 19:54.31 | Neo|Home | Lonny`: that seems to be correct |
| 19:54.38 | Lonny` | Ah ok, thanks :) |
| 19:54.39 | Neo|Home | can't change it in the barber shop either |
| 19:54.40 | Anaral | Geez, even sell fish won't work. |
| 19:54.42 | Dashkal | Dashkal is fugly :( |
| 19:54.45 | Pneumatus | DK creation is bugged at the moment |
| 19:54.49 | Pneumatus | since the last build |
| 19:55.16 | Neo|Home | so i found it very amusing that I stood waiting to invade lights hope and slay the forces of light |
| 19:55.23 | Lonny` | Is there any compilation of bugs available ? :) |
| 19:55.29 | Neo|Home | and did a /charge charge that mentioned "for the light and the naaru" or whatever it is :P |
| 19:55.39 | devXero | WOW........ I just now noticed the new zepplin tower in front of UC |
| 19:55.53 | Pneumatus | not that i know of Lonny` |
| 19:55.55 | Neo|Home | does it come with elevators and peaceful music while you wait? :P |
| 19:56.12 | AckisWork | Anaral: ARL is working on WotLK, it doesn't have all the recipes but it won't blow up and you can do scans |
| 19:57.11 | AckisWork | at least it was working like 2 days ago |
| 19:57.52 | Neo|Home | so |
| 19:57.54 | Neo|Home | I'm at work |
| 19:57.56 | Neo|Home | it sucks. |
| 19:57.57 | Anaral | But how do I get it to open. A /arl or going into the craft window doesn't work. |
| 19:57.57 | Neo|Home | kthxbye |
| 19:58.23 | AckisWork | Anaral: if it's throwing errors something is wrong |
| 19:59.01 | Anaral | It's wanting access to all the libbabbles. |
| 19:59.34 | AckisWork | oh really? |
| 19:59.51 | AckisWork | I'll look at it tonight, it wasn't throwing that error at all... latest off of wowace svn? |
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| 20:01.09 | kagaro | Ackis: im working on a core mining project this weekend, ill get it up on curseforge soon to base a new miner for your stuff |
| 20:01.36 | AckisWork | kagaro: ohh sweet |
| 20:01.53 | Fisker- | Shirik my friend |
| 20:02.08 | Neo|Home | so my favorite DK quest is where an NPC "recognizes" you and tries to convince you not to be evil etc.. and then you kill him. |
| 20:02.12 | kagaro | trying to figure out of I got enough time to write a script to extract data from dbc files atm |
| 20:04.20 | Pneumatus | the quest sends you to a different npc depending on your race also |
| 20:04.31 | Neo|Home | yeah |
| 20:04.34 | Neo|Home | I figured |
| 20:04.54 | Neo|Home | My preferred DK race would be male Draenei.. but I'll probably end up with a human |
| 20:05.05 | Neo|Home | expertise bonus is so valuable |
| 20:05.50 | Pneumatus | and perception, and diplomacy |
| 20:06.05 | Pneumatus | humans are loaded with win |
| 20:06.05 | Neo|Home | perception I don't care about but extra rep is hot |
| 20:06.26 | Neo|Home | my current chars are female human, female human and female draenei |
| 20:07.04 | Neo|Home | lock => picked for rep bonus, paladin => picked for no good reason at all (my first retail character, didn't know much then in terms of end game) and hunter picked because I wanted to play a draenei |
| 20:07.19 | Pneumatus | my priest is human, for the abobr reasons +spi |
| 20:07.25 | Pneumatus | *above |
| 20:07.26 | devXero | horde ftw! |
| 20:07.51 | Neo|Home | for horde I'd pick tauren (extra HP win) or troll (because they are cool, no other reason >:-) |
| 20:07.53 | Pneumatus | yeh, everyones loving that +herbalism racial from taurens zzz |
| 20:08.09 | Neo|Home | not so much that, but the 5% extra HP |
| 20:08.30 | Kirov | ground stomp is nice too |
| 20:08.37 | Pneumatus | granted its more useful than +engineering from gnomes |
| 20:08.37 | Shirik | ah crap, foudn out why fisheye doesn't like that pattern |
| 20:08.40 | durcyn | horde dps classes should be orcs where possible, the racial is rather huge |
| 20:08.43 | Shirik | it doesn't use regexes, it uses antglob :( |
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| 20:08.55 | Yssaril | undead == win |
| 20:09.01 | Kirov | draenei mage == win |
| 20:09.09 | Kirov | 1% hit is nice |
| 20:09.15 | Xuerian | durcyn: Their racial. In the ass. DO IT. |
| 20:09.16 | devXero | shutting off the game to go to the bar == win |
| 20:09.18 | Neo|Home | durcyn: I'd likely be tank |
| 20:09.22 | Pneumatus | gnome mages for the +int |
| 20:09.40 | Xuerian | durcyn: Srsly, trolls look better with axes wtf. >_> |
| 20:09.46 | durcyn | psh |
| 20:09.56 | durcyn | it's like a free third trinket |
| 20:10.14 | Xuerian | Ohh, THAT gimped racial. psh indeed |
| 20:13.49 | cncfanatics | hmm, I'm seeing some weird behaviour |
| 20:14.09 | cncfanatics | if you try to reshow a StaticPopup the frame that it got clicked on, you seem to get issues |
| 20:14.10 | Kirov | cncfanatics - explain |
| 20:14.10 | cncfanatics | anoying |
| 20:14.15 | cncfanatics | Kirov: I just did :D |
| 20:14.30 | Kirov | why are you trying to reshow it? |
| 20:14.38 | Lunessa | Xuerian: Did you just advocate hitting ass +1% of the time? |
| 20:14.41 | Kirov | And what "isues" |
| 20:14.47 | cncfanatics | well, I'm asking if loot has to get sharded or looted |
| 20:14.49 | cncfanatics | with a popup |
| 20:14.52 | cncfanatics | if multiple items got looted |
| 20:14.57 | cncfanatics | I have to ask multiple times |
| 20:15.01 | Xuerian | Lunessa: Indeed I did |
| 20:15.11 | cncfanatics | so after the person clicked for the first item I try to reshow it |
| 20:15.24 | cncfanatics | but the popup doesn't show again, and just gets treated as if it was answered the same way as the first |
| 20:15.27 | Lunessa | Dude, +1% is insufficient for that. |
| 20:15.35 | Xuerian | Lunessa: It stacks. |
| 20:16.10 | Xuerian | It's like the FAIL fontstring replacement. (%d+%%) (.+), $$1 in the ass. |
| 20:16.12 | cncfanatics | Kirov: I'll pastey my code |
| 20:16.13 | cncfanatics | sec |
| 20:16.13 | devXero | ugh... I can't play this alliancw toon |
| 20:16.18 | Lunessa | Tag Body spray = +2% to Hit Ass, 20 Min duration. |
| 20:16.43 | cncfanatics | Kirov: http://pastebin.com/d5b94edf0 |
| 20:16.45 | Xuerian | devXero: I know the feeling -.- |
| 20:17.13 | cncfanatics | in ProcessLoot or ProcessShard |
| 20:17.18 | cncfanatics | when doing PopupDialog again |
| 20:17.21 | devXero | I created a Draene DK, it just ... feels... wrong |
| 20:17.29 | cncfanatics | it gets the same answer for the next item as for the item it just processed |
| 20:17.30 | Neo|Home | devXero: imho it felt just right |
| 20:17.32 | cncfanatics | without popup |
| 20:17.38 | Neo|Home | gnome DK, that'd feel ... wrong |
| 20:17.57 | devXero | alliance just feels wrong |
| 20:18.01 | Aella | I still think that a Tauren death knight is the weirdest. |
| 20:18.05 | devXero | correction.. IS wrongm |
| 20:18.31 | Xuerian | cnc: It's not the issue, but timeout: 0 is no timeout |
| 20:18.34 | Diao | it should really only be orcs and humans |
| 20:19.03 | Aella | I like it being all the races, but that doesn't make it less weird |
| 20:19.05 | cncfanatics | Xuerian: where do I do timeout 0 ? |
| 20:19.14 | cncfanatics | I set the timeout at infinite :p |
| 20:19.25 | Xuerian | timeout = math.huge, -- Don't ever time out (timeout set to infinite), timeout = 0 is the same thing |
| 20:19.35 | cncfanatics | oh, same thing |
| 20:19.44 | cncfanatics | has the same effect anyway |
| 20:20.13 | cncfanatics | Xuerian: can you spot any errors in my code ? :s I'm thinking its blizz' |
| 20:20.16 | Xuerian | Don't know why I bother suggesting things to you, lol.. |
| 20:20.31 | Xuerian | You always say "same thing" or "don't need to" or "not going to", little bastard :p |
| 20:20.51 | Neo|Home | so do alliance and horde DK's shar the same ebon hold once you're done with the initial quests? |
| 20:20.56 | Neo|Home | or is it somehow invisibly instanced? |
| 20:21.09 | Pneumatus | they share it after the starting zone |
| 20:21.20 | Neo|Home | hopefully non-pvp enabled :P |
| 20:21.23 | Pneumatus | and its flagged as sanctuary |
| 20:21.28 | Neo|Home | not that I play on a PvP server |
| 20:21.40 | Xuerian | It's like shatt |
| 20:21.44 | cncfanatics | Xuerian: I did change it :p |
| 20:21.53 | Xuerian | Or Dalaran I assume |
| 20:22.22 | Xuerian | cncfanatics: I didn't spot any errors right off, but then again I didn't read it thoroughly, I have to afk for a bit |
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| 20:23.05 | cncfanatics | this is so anoying |
| 20:24.23 | Kirov | cncfanatics - where is current coming from? |
| 20:25.02 | cncfanatics | local current = processingQueue[1]; |
| 20:25.19 | cncfanatics | if thats the one you mean |
| 20:25.33 | Josh_Borke | cncfanatics: "timeout - After this many seconds, the dialog will go away. If the entry has an OnCancel function, it will be called with "timeout" as the reason. Dialogs which do not expire should set this to zero. " |
| 20:25.36 | Kirov | doh, missed that somehow |
| 20:25.37 | Kirov | Also, though not a bug fix, you can set text to "%s has received %s" and pass current[1] and current[2] as the 2nd and 3rd args of _Show |
| 20:25.51 | cncfanatics | neat |
| 20:26.05 | Kirov | _Show will do the format for you |
| 20:26.36 | cncfanatics | changed that |
| 20:26.36 | Kirov | >2 format args will require you do it the way you are doing it though |
| 20:27.02 | cncfanatics | oki |
| 20:27.04 | cncfanatics | will remember that |
| 20:27.11 | cncfanatics | any idea why its bugging like that though ? |
| 20:27.43 | Kirov | still looking, been a while since I delt with static popups |
| 20:27.48 | Kirov | Usually it's a case issue |
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| 20:28.27 | cncfanatics | well PopupLootDialog works the first time |
| 20:28.33 | cncfanatics | but if I do it more then once a frame, it bugs out |
| 20:28.39 | cncfanatics | (even if its after the first one got processed) |
| 20:28.57 | cncfanatics | well I mean, if I do it the frame that OnAccept or OnCancel got triggered it bugs out |
| 20:30.08 | Josh_Borke | cncfanatics: the functions get called a first time, correct? |
| 20:30.14 | cncfanatics | yea |
| 20:30.24 | cncfanatics | then nothing happens untill either the loot or shard buttons are clicked |
| 20:30.35 | cncfanatics | then, when it gets clicked, Processloot or processShard get triggered |
| 20:30.46 | cncfanatics | if either of those try to create a new staticpopup, it bugs out |
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| 20:31.04 | cncfanatics | and will instead of showing a new popup just trigger processLoot or ProcessShard again |
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| 20:31.17 | Josh_Borke | don't do the functions in OnAccept or OnCancel |
| 20:31.22 | Kirov | cncfanatics - I'd actually suggest this. Add this line to both your shard and loot functions |
| 20:31.22 | Kirov | ChatFrame1:AddMessage(debugstack()) |
| 20:31.30 | Josh_Borke | i think what is happening is you are trying to show the popup before it hides |
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| 20:31.57 | Josh_Borke | cncfanatics: "The OnHide function will always be called after OnAccept or OnCancel have finished their execution. " |
| 20:32.05 | cncfanatics | okay, so I have to register OnHide |
| 20:32.10 | cncfanatics | and trigger it again there |
| 20:32.15 | Josh_Borke | yes, try that |
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| 20:33.15 | cncfanatics | there's 4 static popup frames |
| 20:33.20 | cncfanatics | which is it >.< |
| 20:33.33 | Kirov | Who cares? |
| 20:34.07 | Josh_Borke | you don't have to hook the OnHide |
| 20:34.13 | Josh_Borke | just add OnHide = function() stuff end |
| 20:34.17 | Kirov | in your StaticPopupDialogs entry add OnHide = AveRaidTracker.ProcessNext or something |
| 20:34.20 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 20:34.22 | cncfanatics | oki I get it |
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| 20:35.16 | cncfanatics | this actualy simplifies the code too |
| 20:35.17 | cncfanatics | good stuff |
| 20:36.11 | Anaral | Okay this whole having to open/close the video settings just to get to see my ui is for the birds. |
| 20:36.17 | cncfanatics | nearly correct |
| 20:36.49 | cncfanatics | just need to tremove(tbl, 1); |
| 20:36.53 | cncfanatics | to get stuff from the start |
| 20:37.18 | Kirov | cncfanatics - actually, why don't you pass the data to the popup? |
| 20:37.51 | Kirov | I think before you were thinking "ew" because it created extra tables, but you're just passing a reference around, the table is already created. |
| 20:38.10 | cncfanatics | Kirov: you can pass data to the popup ? |
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| 20:38.13 | cncfanatics | what field you use for that ? :) |
| 20:38.24 | Kirov | StaticPopup_Show(which, text_arg1, text_arg2, data) |
| 20:38.38 | cncfanatics | the data will be passed to my ProcessLoot functions ? |
| 20:38.42 | Kirov | the On___ functions first param will be data |
| 20:38.47 | cncfanatics | great |
| 20:38.56 | Kirov | (including Hide and Show, if you want) |
| 20:38.57 | cladhaire | evening all |
| 20:39.04 | Kirov | evening clad |
| 20:39.09 | cncfanatics | hmmm, actualy |
| 20:39.20 | cncfanatics | I need to tremove from the processingqueue anyway |
| 20:39.23 | cncfanatics | might as well use that one |
| 20:39.23 | Neo|Home | evening and welcome to today's episode of "as the beta turns" |
| 20:39.35 | Josh_Borke | kirov: are you sure? |
| 20:40.29 | Kirov | Josh_Borke - for 2.0 it is, for 3.0 they change it to self, data, method |
| 20:40.31 | cncfanatics | Kirov, Josh_Borke, Xuerian: It works, love you all |
| 20:40.43 | Kirov | (method being clicked or forced) |
| 20:40.59 | Josh_Borke | kirov: that it passes data, that is |
| 20:42.25 | Kirov | Josh_Borke - to OnAccept, OnAlt, OnCancel, OnShow and OnHide, yes |
| 20:42.26 | Kirov | OnAccept also passes data2, but never defines it |
| 20:42.26 | Neo|Home | OnAlt? |
| 20:42.26 | Neo|Home | what is OnAlt for? |
| 20:42.46 | Kirov | OnAccept == button1, OnCancel == button2, OnAlt == button3 |
| 20:42.54 | Kirov | ie: 3 option popup dialogs |
| 20:42.55 | Josh_Borke | help me find the line in the code where StaticPopup_Show puts data somewhere where it passes it |
| 20:43.05 | Josh_Borke | :( |
| 20:43.16 | Josh_Borke | i'm reading the code from tekkub's wow-ui-source, it could be old |
| 20:44.07 | Kirov | checking 2.4 source... I could of sworn. |
| 20:44.39 | cncfanatics | now all I need is a textframe to export the data on in xml |
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| 20:46.02 | Kirov | damn, you're right Josh |
| 20:46.07 | Anaral | Aww, shutdown in 15 minutes |
| 20:46.13 | Industrial | [SERVER] Shutdown in 15:00 |
| 20:46.13 | Industrial | noooo |
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| 20:46.15 | Industrial | :p |
| 20:46.19 | Neo|Home | patch day I wonder |
| 20:46.35 | Kirov | cncfanatics - you'll need to set the data on the frame to pass it. |
| 20:46.52 | cncfanatics | Kirov: I'll just do it the way i do now |
| 20:46.55 | cncfanatics | just pop it from the queue |
| 20:47.07 | Xuerian | Kirov: I already tried to get him to do it that way >_> |
| 20:47.19 | Kirov | cncfanatics - There is one issue with your method though. |
| 20:47.35 | Kirov | cncfanatics - You can have more than one of those dialogs at a time. |
| 20:47.47 | cncfanatics | hmmm, how so ? |
| 20:47.56 | cncfanatics | I carefully check so that shldnt happen |
| 20:48.53 | Kirov | opp, never mind |
| 20:48.57 | Kirov | no data == no data |
| 20:49.18 | Kirov | Though, technically you could change it to let you have multiple... but that's getting evil. |
| 20:49.32 | cncfanatics | I rather not |
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| 20:56.02 | Anaral | The Farshire Grain is bugged. It glitters, but I can't pick it up... |
| 20:56.13 | Anaral | nm |
| 20:56.15 | Xuerian | Report it then, Anaral. |
| 20:56.27 | Anaral | Nope |
| 20:56.36 | Anaral | I'm supposed to burn them, not pick it up. |
| 21:01.06 | Anaral | Woot! I made it to the inn just as we got kicked. |
| 21:02.54 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 21:02.59 | cncfanatics | didn't even patch up wotlk yet |
| 21:03.16 | Icecold|Cookies | We finished a the nexus boss like 10seconds before the server shut down. :p |
| 21:03.26 | Fisker- | OMG OMGOMGOMOGMOGMG |
| 21:03.27 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8765609466&sid=2000 |
| 21:03.28 | Fisker- | NEW BUILD |
| 21:03.44 | Pneumatus | winnar |
| 21:03.59 | Icecold|Cookies | Hopefully the shaman changes that have been talked about more than enough. :P |
| 21:04.04 | Lonny` | Nice :) |
| 21:04.37 | Pneumatus | id like a new zone, and a raised level cap pls mr beta patch fairy |
| 21:05.08 | Anaral | I'd like addons to work. And then I want the game to break around them. :p |
| 21:05.22 | cncfanatics | how do you make a read only textbox ? |
| 21:05.26 | cncfanatics | s/text/edit/ |
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| 21:06.14 | Kirov | cncfanatics - you don't |
| 21:07.17 | cncfanatics | Kirov: how would I make something that shows text then ? :p |
| 21:07.45 | Kirov | cncfanatics - the "best" method is to set an OnChanged method for the edit box to reset the text to what you want |
| 21:07.47 | Nargiddley | cncfanatics, :ClearFocus :EnableMouse(false) |
| 21:07.54 | Nargiddley | cant focus it, can't type into it |
| 21:08.05 | Kirov | Also can't select text to copy it |
| 21:08.18 | cncfanatics | ah well, fuck non editable then |
| 21:08.19 | Kirov | so, what's the point of making it an edit box? |
| 21:08.41 | Nargiddley | just saying, thats what I do for disabled options in AceGUI |
| 21:09.51 | Kirov | cncfanatics - some implementations I've seen they place a button on top of an existing text string that when clicked shows an edit box pre-selected that any change, click, etc results in it hiding the edit box |
| 21:10.53 | Josh_Borke | cncfanatics: what are you trying to do exactly? |
| 21:11.27 | cncfanatics | I have a raid tracker |
| 21:11.37 | cncfanatics | just trying to show output that can be copy pasted into a web app |
| 21:11.39 | Josh_Borke | editbox:EnableKeyboard(false), why wouldn't that work? |
| 21:12.10 | cncfanatics | AveRaidTracker:SetScript("OnEscapePressed", function() AveRaidTracker:ClearFocus() end); shouldn't that clear the focus when escape is pressed ? (it doesnt) |
| 21:12.41 | Kirov | it should, yes |
| 21:13.10 | Kirov | Josh_Borke - I guess if you don't want escape / enter it'd work |
| 21:13.22 | cncfanatics | it doesn't :p |
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| 21:14.25 | Josh_Borke | (05:06:16 PM) Kirov: cncfanatics - you don't <-- liar :-P |
| 21:14.32 | Josh_Borke | (make a read-only textbox that is) |
| 21:14.46 | Josh_Borke | cncfanatics: if it doesn't work then you are doing it wrong |
| 21:15.06 | Kirov | Josh_Borke - that you also want to be able to select + use "OnEnter" in ... |
| 21:15.29 | Kirov | OnEnterPressed that is |
| 21:15.38 | Josh_Borke | ah, you are 100% correct :-D |
| 21:15.50 | cncfanatics | http://pastebin.com/d3c5c07db the focus doesn't clear here |
| 21:15.59 | cncfanatics | but the debug code does trigger |
| 21:16.14 | cncfanatics | guess I need to disable autofocus to prevent it from regrabbing focus every time ? |
| 21:16.18 | Lunessa | ScytheBlade1: I just looked at your screenies, and they look pretty good considering that crappy card you use... :P |
| 21:16.24 | Josh_Borke | cncfanatics: correct |
| 21:16.36 | AckisWork | ~seen ratri |
| 21:16.38 | purl | AckisWork: i haven't seen 'ratri' |
| 21:17.20 | Kirov | cncfanatics - is there a reason you don't define the frame's name in CreateFrame? |
| 21:17.20 | Lunessa | ratari = Kamdis |
| 21:17.31 | cncfanatics | Kirov: not really |
| 21:17.39 | cncfanatics | I guess I should |
| 21:17.58 | Kirov | It'll make the global for you, as well as allow GetName() to work |
| 21:17.59 | Josh_Borke | kirov: gief name mean global frame |
| 21:18.07 | Lunessa | ~seen kamdis |
| 21:18.08 | purl | kamdis <i=405f8902@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ee1a5e0cf6722616> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 8d 22h 55m 21s ago, saying: 'i r grammar Nazi (there i godwined - sorta - happy now?)'. |
| 21:18.12 | Josh_Borke | GetName is over-rated imo |
| 21:18.14 | Kirov | Josh_Borke - he's already making it a global |
| 21:18.30 | Josh_Borke | as if i can be bothered to actually read, psh |
| 21:18.33 | Josh_Borke | :-P |
| 21:18.42 | AckisWork | Lunessa: ahh they replied to a post I made and I wanted to <3 them here heheh :P |
| 21:18.44 | cncfanatics | ~lart Josh_Borke |
| 21:18.44 | purl | moos at Josh_Borke |
| 21:18.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: indeed, and that's on wine --> tga --> jpg |
| 21:18.52 | Kirov | I guess the real solution would be to change the OnEscapePressed function to |
| 21:18.52 | Kirov | function(self) self:ClearFocus() end |
| 21:19.10 | Josh_Borke | that would be a better implementation |
| 21:19.13 | Lunessa | She reads the forums a lot, she'll be happy to be thanked there. :) |
| 21:19.47 | Kirov | http://pastebin.com/m58fb9b52 |
| 21:20.33 | Kirov | If you want to use the frame elsewhere I usually do something like "myMod.NormallyGlobalFrameName = frame" |
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| 21:25.24 | cncfanatics | hmmm, how do you figure the current time ? |
| 21:25.39 | cncfanatics | s/time/date/ |
| 21:25.55 | Kirov | server or client? |
| 21:26.04 | cncfanatics | doesn't matter |
| 21:26.12 | cncfanatics | preferably server |
| 21:26.26 | Kirov | Well, you can get the moon's current time use os.LaLuna |
| 21:26.37 | Kirov | (i kid, i kid) |
| 21:26.47 | cncfanatics | ~lart Kirov |
| 21:26.47 | purl | follow's Kirov with a gauntlet and ... scratch ... HUMILIATION |
| 21:26.48 | cncfanatics | :p |
| 21:27.01 | Neo|Home | so if wotlk requires a lone line to be changed (LibBars setting font), it seems to make sense just to make the change on trunk (if bar.OldText use bar.OldText() etc) |
| 21:27.01 | cncfanatics | haven't done this kind of coding for way too longh |
| 21:27.13 | Shirik | cncfanatics: There isn't really a way to get the server date |
| 21:27.13 | Neo|Home | basically it's just the function that sets the text of the "handle" |
| 21:27.15 | Shirik | only the server time |
| 21:27.28 | cncfanatics | Shirik: I'll just ignore it then |
| 21:27.31 | cncfanatics | and let it be filled in on the website |
| 21:27.34 | Shirik | You can get the current date using time() |
| 21:27.34 | Kirov | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetGameTime |
| 21:27.48 | Shirik | time() returns a UNIX timestamp |
| 21:28.10 | Kirov | date() also works |
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| 21:28.36 | Kirov | lua> date() |
| 21:28.36 | lua_bot | Kirov: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'date' (a nil value) |
| 21:28.42 | Kirov | lua> time() |
| 21:28.43 | lua_bot | Kirov: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'time' (a nil value) |
| 21:28.45 | Kirov | bah |
| 21:28.50 | Shirik | os.time in Lua |
| 21:28.52 | Kirov | lua> os.time() |
| 21:28.52 | lua_bot | Kirov: 1218230932 |
| 21:28.55 | cncfanatics | mmm,gonna replace all my GetTime() by time() then |
| 21:29.01 | Kirov | lua> os.date() |
| 21:29.01 | lua_bot | Kirov: Fri Aug 8 22:29:01 2008 |
| 21:29.21 | Kirov | cncfanatics - yeah, GetTime is generally bad for data storage |
| 21:29.31 | Kirov | time() is good because you can use it to get a real date |
| 21:29.46 | Kirov | lua> os.date(1218230932) |
| 21:29.46 | lua_bot | Kirov: 1218230932 |
| 21:29.51 | cncfanatics | wouldn't it be possible to figure the server time() |
| 21:29.57 | cncfanatics | by adding the difference in time between client & server ? |
| 21:30.08 | Shirik | if you assume that the client's clock is correct |
| 21:30.10 | foxlit | But are you ahead or behind? |
| 21:30.19 | cncfanatics | well, the default UI knows server time |
| 21:30.20 | Shirik | What if my clock is a year back? |
| 21:30.27 | Shirik | It only knows time, cncfanatics |
| 21:30.28 | Shirik | not date |
| 21:30.35 | Kirov | lua> os.date("%m/%d/%y %H:%M:%S",1218230932) |
| 21:30.35 | lua_bot | Kirov: 08/08/08 22:28:52 |
| 21:30.39 | Kirov | there we go |
| 21:30.43 | cncfanatics | 11:59, 00:01 issues indeed |
| 21:30.44 | cncfanatics | nv |
| 21:30.45 | cncfanatics | nvm |
| 21:31.30 | Kirov | one new trick is you might be able to decode the combat log time |
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| 21:31.50 | cncfanatics | not gonna use hacks for such a simple thing |
| 21:32.01 | Kirov | I'm pretty sure that's a real unix time code, just like os.time() |
| 21:32.11 | Kirov | You could use that to determine the date on the server |
| 21:32.38 | Kirov | That, of course, assumes that blizzard's servers are the correct time too. :P |
| 21:33.09 | Kirov | cncfanatics - are you wanting to share the encoded time between players? |
| 21:33.14 | devXero | is there a max coin that a toon can carry? something like 9,999,999? |
| 21:33.15 | cncfanatics | nop |
| 21:33.27 | Kirov | cncfanatics - then yeah, just use os.time() |
| 21:33.29 | cncfanatics | devXero: there is |
| 21:33.34 | cncfanatics | its not a round number though |
| 21:33.42 | Mooninaut | it's 2^something copper |
| 21:33.42 | cncfanatics | its the upper limit of a 64 bit integer iirc |
| 21:33.44 | Kirov | cncfanatics - in wow lua I believe it's just time(), I don't know if os.time() exists |
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| 21:33.50 | cncfanatics | its time() yep |
| 21:33.54 | cncfanatics | the os table is nil |
| 21:34.39 | Kirov | 214,748 gold, 36 silver, 48 copper |
| 21:34.47 | Icecold|Cookies | ^ |
| 21:35.29 | cncfanatics | Kirov: would that be with a signed or unsigned integer ? |
| 21:35.46 | Kirov | cncfanatics - for gold? |
| 21:35.50 | AckisWork | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8765609499&sid=2000 |
| 21:35.57 | Mooninaut | it's 2 to the 31st copper |
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| 21:38.26 | Kirov | AckisWork - no |
| 21:39.42 | AckisWork | do you know if that's going to be changed at all? or is a no, never? |
| 21:40.10 | Mooninaut | sounds like a topic for the suggestions forum |
| 21:40.11 | Kirov | I would say it's not high on Blizzards list of things to change. |
| 21:40.22 | Kirov | But I wouldn't say "no, never" |
| 21:41.06 | AckisWork | that was more about if blizz responded to it before |
| 21:41.39 | AckisWork | and on a side note I can log into the beta forums but when I go to the normal I get " * * You are not allowed to post in this station" heheh damn bans :P |
| 21:41.40 | Neo|Home | why would it need to be changed? |
| 21:41.59 | Duman | yay |
| 21:41.59 | Neo|Home | if you have more than 214k gold on each character on the server you need a life :P |
| 21:42.01 | Duman | new build |
| 21:43.41 | cncfanatics | the gold limit already got changed once iirc |
| 21:43.44 | cncfanatics | used to be a 32 bit integer |
| 21:44.55 | Neo|Home | "used to be"? isn't it still? |
| 21:45.00 | Neo|Home | 2^31 |
| 21:45.26 | foxlit | quick, get me 2^31-1 gold and check! |
| 21:45.31 | Duman | hehe |
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| 21:46.05 | cncfanatics | foxlit: copper |
| 21:46.05 | Duman | well, it's probably 2^31, divided by 10000, since it's likely represented as copper |
| 21:46.16 | Neo|Home | it is |
| 21:46.18 | foxlit | cnc: but I want gold! |
| 21:46.21 | cncfanatics | foxlit: dia |
| 21:46.26 | cncfanatics | s/a/e/ |
| 21:46.43 | Duman | 214748 gold |
| 21:46.46 | Duman | men |
| 21:46.48 | Duman | err, meh |
| 21:46.49 | Duman | lol |
| 21:47.04 | Mooninaut | freudian |
| 21:47.09 | Duman | quiet! |
| 21:48.11 | Maldivia | wee... patch :) |
| 21:48.15 | Duman | yep yep |
| 21:49.34 | Mooninaut | on the one hand, yay new things, on the other hand, darn it I was in the middle of refactoring my addon |
| 21:50.47 | |pez| | dear body, please don't cramp my hips like that ever again. Love Pez. |
| 21:51.20 | Neo|Home | I suppose each patch is a surprise |
| 21:51.27 | Dashkal | |pez|: ouch? |
| 21:51.28 | Neo|Home | except stuff on the official talent calculator |
| 21:51.38 | |pez| | Dashkal: Yes. |
| 21:52.03 | Mooninaut | Neo|Home: like a can of peanut brittle with plastic snakes inside |
| 21:52.10 | Maldivia | downloading right now... lets see what it contains :) |
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| 21:53.11 | Neo|Home | Mooninaut: like that but in secret |
| 21:57.42 | kd3 | bah. wtb game letting me log in to get the damn patch |
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| 21:58.39 | Neo|Home | kd3: start the launcher? |
| 21:58.46 | kd3 | it's just sitting there |
| 21:58.49 | Mooninaut | I'm not getting it from the launcher either |
| 21:59.32 | Garoun|Loupana | yep, no update going through yet to me in the US |
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| 21:59.55 | Garoun|Loupana | it'll take you all the way to log in screen, authenticate you then decon |
| 22:05.04 | Garoun|Loupana | There is a post up on the beta boards about the patch |
| 22:05.19 | Garoun|Loupana | went down at 4 pst, expected downtime 6-8 hours |
| 22:05.41 | Lunessa | ... hate people who call @5 to ask if someone will be here until 10:30 |
| 22:05.57 | Lunessa | Damn it we close at 5!!! |
| 22:06.22 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 22:06.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Stab them? |
| 22:07.11 | Garoun|Loupana | or just tell them you aren't sure and they should ride to the office and check :P |
| 22:07.34 | Lunessa | Haha... no, this professor needs the computer in question. |
| 22:07.59 | foxlit | grr, some comics have annoying rss feeds |
| 22:11.20 | AckisWork | ahahahhahahahaha Cortona Inn and Suites Your reservation confirmation (decided to actually book finally :P) |
| 22:13.03 | leethal | grr taunt never resists =P |
| 22:13.34 | leethal | is there a good place for > 70 none elite mobs? |
| 22:14.09 | |pez| | everyone knows what to do with .zip files these days... riiight? |
| 22:14.48 | Kirov | |pez| - it seems foreign to most mac users still. |
| 22:15.33 | leethal | zip files behaves just like tar.gz etc. on os x |
| 22:15.39 | leethal | 'tleast on leopard |
| 22:15.57 | foxlit | tiger, too. |
| 22:15.58 | Kirov | leethal - you asume mac users understand those too |
| 22:16.11 | |pez| | but generally, people understand? I'm writing a guide, and i'd like to leave out that stupid little part. |
| 22:16.28 | Wikwocket | Sure just don't throw a .rar at the general public o_O |
| 22:16.34 | Kirov | |pez| - include a wikipedia link or something. |
| 22:16.44 | |pez| | Kirov: good plan! |
| 22:16.44 | Maldivia | hmm... seems like we're getting a new zone with the patch.. |
| 22:16.52 | Kirov | Wikwocket - or 7z |
| 22:17.41 | leethal | Kirov: I think any mac user understands archived files just as good as a pc user |
| 22:18.25 | Kirov | leethal - ie: they don't |
| 22:18.58 | Lunessa | Honestly most fucking pc users don't get it either. |
| 22:19.21 | Lunessa | Which is what you were saying.. nm |
| 22:19.47 | Neo|Home | Garoun|Loupana: it went down at 14 PST, 2 PM. It's only 15:19/3:19PM PST atm ;-) |
| 22:21.03 | Neo|Home | |pez|: most people on a mac wouldn't see the zip since it's decompressed by stuffit expander so easily :P |
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| 22:21.37 | foxlit | meh, stuffit is oooold! |
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| 22:22.25 | foxlit | I'm not sure what's the default handler for zips on later OSX releases, but I don't think it's stuffit |
| 22:22.48 | Neo|Home | it is on mine.. but mine isn't necessarily "default os x"... (considering it runs on an AMD pc) |
| 22:23.48 | foxlit | Grats on missing out on the best part of apple's computers :) |
| 22:23.53 | Neo|Home | the cost? |
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| 22:23.59 | |pez| | Waaaah! |
| 22:24.08 | foxlit | the hardware, really |
| 22:24.11 | Neo|Home | seriously though, I am strongly considering a mac pro as my next computer |
| 22:24.21 | |pez| | this, this contest is not in my country! - http://www.snapvillage.com/Promo.aspx?id=wacomcintiq |
| 22:24.27 | ckknight | just buy your own ram, NeoTron |
| 22:24.27 | Neo|Home | but what Apple is completely missing is something between an imac and a mac pro |
| 22:24.30 | Neo|Home | a normal desktop |
| 22:24.40 | Neo|Home | ckknight: omg yes |
| 22:24.44 | NightHawkAtWork | foxlit: the default zip hanlder is a built in utility |
| 22:24.55 | Neo|Home | I checked that out and even though they use expensive ECC ram, their prices are astronomical |
| 22:25.14 | NightHawkAtWork | Neo|Home: get a mac pro with min spcs except for processor, then get everything else elsewhere |
| 22:25.20 | Neo|Home | yep |
| 22:25.28 | Neo|Home | I get some 10% off the cost via work too |
| 22:25.42 | NightHawkAtWork | thats what i did with mine |
| 22:25.45 | Neo|Home | but it's still not cheap. I'm hoping for an update of specs before I buy |
| 22:26.03 | Neo|Home | like. I really don't need xeon processors but ah well |
| 22:26.17 | Lunessa | Get The Unarchiver to replace the built-in. it's full of sexy goodness. |
| 22:26.18 | Neo|Home | I guess if you want anything else, you have to get a computer-in-a-montor (and still not necessarily pay less) |
| 22:26.24 | Neo|Home | since the monitor is in the price.. |
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| 22:27.03 | Kirov | Someone compared a mac pro and a hp with as near identical specs as possible, as well as a "build your own" price. The mac pro fully configured was around $4k, the hp was around $2.5k, and the build your own was $800 |
| 22:27.06 | NightHawkAtWork | Lunessa: indeed, the unarchiver is nice |
| 22:27.25 | NightHawkAtWork | Kirov: those types of comparisons often miss part quality, though |
| 22:27.39 | NightHawkAtWork | and usually don't really make accurate comparisons to begin with |
| 22:27.42 | Neo|Home | Kirov: not quite fair comparision most likely |
| 22:27.43 | Lunessa | And "Out of box" expereince. |
| 22:27.48 | cladhaire | Kirov: actually, the exact opposite was just done by Tom's Hardware. |
| 22:27.51 | cladhaire | timely enough |
| 22:27.58 | Neo|Home | Mac Pro is a workstation not a desktop |
| 22:28.07 | leethal | isn't "arg(1)" the proper way of getting the first argument in a '...'? |
| 22:28.10 | Neo|Home | it can have 32 GB memory for crying out loud |
| 22:28.18 | cladhaire | http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/apple-mac-leopard-windows-vista,1985-2.html |
| 22:28.19 | leethal | it some times complains arg isn't around (I think) |
| 22:28.20 | schnoggo | Download finally finished - anyone else having issues logging into beta? |
| 22:28.29 | Kirov | This was one I saw a few years back, when Mac Pros first came in their new cheese grater box |
| 22:28.39 | Lunessa | 6-8 hour downtime. |
| 22:28.41 | cladhaire | The above is essentially a baseline Mac Pro replicated using the cheapest minimum required components to build. The difference? A negligible $5.67. Those who claim that they can build "the same" PC for half the price are at this point baseless. |
| 22:28.42 | schnoggo | don't forget the 8 processors :p |
| 22:28.43 | schnoggo | ah |
| 22:29.00 | Neo|Home | the CPU's alone cost $1100? |
| 22:29.03 | NightHawkAtWork | leethal: if no one answered you, sunwell isle may have non-elite 71+ mobs for the dailies there |
| 22:29.04 | kd3 | if any of you beta testers need the downloader mirror... http://62.61.142.129:20080/WoW-3.0.1.8714-to-3.0.1.8770-enUS-downloader.exe |
| 22:29.08 | schnoggo | they should put that in the Breaking News :) |
| 22:29.12 | Neo|Home | see I'd be ok with CPU's costing like $200-400 probably :P |
| 22:29.16 | leethal | NightHawkAtWork: ah, good idea |
| 22:29.30 | NightHawkAtWork | kd3: got one for osx? ;) |
| 22:29.49 | NightHawkAtWork | cladhaire: the irony is, that's been the case for a very long time, and is not at all news. :P |
| 22:29.55 | cladhaire | I'm aware :P |
| 22:29.56 | Neo|Home | now I do like this: Memory cost for 2GB: $134... |
| 22:30.01 | Neo|Home | and apple charges 500 for 2 GB more |
| 22:30.05 | kd3 | nope, that's the only mirror I've seen |
| 22:30.10 | cladhaire | Neo|Home: why would you buy from apple, thats just silly |
| 22:30.15 | Neo|Home | right |
| 22:30.16 | NightHawkAtWork | yeah, everyone knows apple massively overcharges on ram/hdds |
| 22:30.18 | cladhaire | same as buying extra ram from HP or whoever else |
| 22:30.22 | Neo|Home | I understand. it's just weird :P |
| 22:30.43 | NightHawkAtWork | but, lunessa had it, out of box experience really. some people are willing to pay to not have to deal with that |
| 22:31.01 | Neo|Home | it's somewhat annoying having to still buy from newegg |
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| 22:31.23 | Neo|Home | but most likely I'd get a baseline (w/ whatever CPU) from apple and then buy more disks/memory (maybe gfx card) from newegg |
| 22:31.41 | leethal | so, umm, how do you get the first argument of a passed '...' (don't remember what those are called)? |
| 22:31.45 | schnoggo | I place my order with Crucial, then go down to the Apple store :) |
| 22:32.35 | Neo|Home | schnoggo: I guess that would be doable, forget they have retail precense |
| 22:32.47 | foxlit | leethal: local firstargument = ...; |
| 22:32.51 | Neo|Home | but do they have "mac pro" in stock? |
| 22:32.55 | NightHawkAtWork | leethal: try unpack() |
| 22:33.01 | schnoggo | They do! |
| 22:33.04 | NightHawkAtWork | possibly with selet() |
| 22:33.07 | NightHawkAtWork | select() |
| 22:33.13 | |pez| | Oh, man, I want one of these, anyone have a spare one? - http://www.wacom-shop.net/cgi-bin/wacom.storefront/489cc9070002853627404ddcef260612/Product/View/DTZ&2D2100D |
| 22:33.34 | foxlit | unpack extracts an array into a list |
| 22:33.52 | foxlit | select(1, ...) is pointless |
| 22:36.25 | Lunessa | ok, they picked up the machine and I can go. Later all. |
| 22:36.30 | leethal | foxlit, NightHawkAtWork: ah, of course. local first, second, third, etc = ... |
| 22:38.57 | Maldivia | kd3: next time, please ask my permission before you post downloaders hosted on my site (even if you got it from Jayde) |
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| 22:39.34 | Xuerian | leethal: Indeed, you don't need select/whatnot, just local first = ... |
| 22:40.24 | cncfanatics | damn, too much patches for wotlk |
| 22:40.26 | Maldivia | NightHawkAtWork: you need OSX downloader? US or GB? |
| 22:41.18 | Xuerian | The build getting pushed now require a client-side update? |
| 22:41.41 | Maldivia | yeah, build 8770 |
| 22:41.50 | Neo|Home | is the download big? |
| 22:41.52 | Maldivia | 489mb for us, 511 for eu |
| 22:41.56 | cncfanatics | 512 mb |
| 22:42.04 | Xuerian | Good lord, whar |
| 22:42.16 | Xuerian | launcher isn't picking it up >.> |
| 22:42.31 | cncfanatics | indeed |
| 22:42.31 | cncfanatics | need to login |
| 22:42.38 | amro | Xuerian: http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/torrent/WoW-3.0.1.8714-to-3.0.1.8770-enGB-patch.torrent |
| 22:42.51 | Xuerian | enUS, you crazy brit |
| 22:43.03 | cncfanatics | amro: I love you |
| 22:43.04 | amro | im not a brit, and you can change the URL :) |
| 22:43.04 | Maldivia | Xuerian: http://files.filefront.com/WoW+3018714+to+3018rexe/;11417837;/fileinfo.html for US |
| 22:43.08 | cncfanatics | crappy blizz dl'er |
| 22:43.10 | leethal | I must say, the new combat log system is quite a lot easier to handle than having to parse strings all the time. |
| 22:43.18 | Xuerian | lol, lazy XD |
| 22:43.25 | Xuerian | awesome, thanks Maldivia |
| 22:43.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Wait, a new beta patch is up? I don't have it through the launcher OR the in-game login |
| 22:43.40 | nevcairiel | I got it from ingame |
| 22:43.55 | Xuerian | leethal: It's great, now if only they'd do it for all events |
| 22:44.04 | ScytheBlade1 | "Disconnected from server" |
| 22:44.08 | Sixen | :( |
| 22:44.10 | leethal | hah, I wonder if there is such a thing as a perfect API |
| 22:44.13 | Sixen | Breaking up with people is no fun. |
| 22:44.14 | nevcairiel | just grab one of teh torrent |
| 22:44.22 | Xuerian | Sixen: Especially when they don't take no for a answer |
| 22:44.32 | Sixen | :( |
| 22:44.35 | Sixen | Agreed. |
| 22:44.44 | Sixen | Hell, I didn't think i'd feel bad.. But.. I feel bad.. |
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| 22:44.49 | Maldivia | wow... chain heal +1 target glyph!!!! |
| 22:44.53 | Dashkal | ouch, not fun at all |
| 22:44.54 | Xuerian | It's like shooting a kitten -.-; |
| 22:45.01 | Xuerian | not that... i've.. done that... |
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| 22:45.21 | Sixen | lol |
| 22:45.32 | Sixen | =[ |
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| 22:47.13 | Neo|Home | Maldivia: that's pretty hot |
| 22:47.20 | Neo|Home | Maldivia: how do you see that? digging through the data? |
| 22:47.39 | Neo|Home | ah mmo champion has it |
| 22:47.41 | Neo|Home | that was quick |
| 22:47.45 | Xuerian | Good lord, needs moar seeds |
| 22:47.56 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm working on it! |
| 22:47.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, my server is |
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| 22:48.12 | Maldivia | Neo|Home: well, I was digging :) |
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| 22:48.44 | Maldivia | Neo|Home: not that I have better things to do, until servers are back up... heh e:) |
| 22:48.44 | Dashkal | She's here! Flee! |
| 22:49.00 | Dashkal | or was chanserv being a pain, conference mode ftl |
| 22:49.17 | Xuerian | Mmmm those glyphs are tasty |
| 22:49.19 | nevcairiel | Maldivia: beat kd3 to the UI Diff ;) |
| 22:49.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow, yeah, they really need more seeds... 130kB/sec down ftl |
| 22:49.46 | cncfanatics | bedtime, g'night |
| 22:49.50 | NightHawkAtWork | Maldivia: US, but it's not a huge deal, I usually don't have an issue getting patches normally. |
| 22:50.00 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: hehe :) |
| 22:50.04 | cncfanatics | I'm at 35 kb/s ScytheBlade1 :( |
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| 22:50.13 | Xuerian | ScytheBlade1: 20-30kb/s >_> |
| 22:50.17 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 22:50.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Add 64.22.125.133:6897 to your peers (if you can) |
| 22:50.40 | Xuerian | holy shit, pool-71-164-2-10.sttlwa.fios.verizon.net:48292 is doing 500kB/s |
| 22:50.45 | Xuerian | I hate that person. |
| 22:50.47 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 22:50.55 | ReAn | Next Beta Patch is 500mb btw |
| 22:50.56 | ScytheBlade1 | If you add that IP/Port you'll get at least a meg/sec ;) |
| 22:51.02 | ScytheBlade1 | (That's my server) |
| 22:51.06 | ReAn | it's hueg |
| 22:51.12 | cncfanatics | how to add a peer in rtorrent :o |
| 22:51.17 | Arrowmaster | its fios |
| 22:51.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Hey, speeding up.. up to 200kB/sec down |
| 22:51.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Not sure |
| 22:51.31 | ScytheBlade1 | 250kB/sec! |
| 22:51.39 | Dashkal | is there a quick tool for tipping the .torrent out that I don't know about? |
| 22:51.43 | Dashkal | ripping* |
| 22:51.47 | Arrowmaster | wowtorrentex |
| 22:51.49 | leethal | oh the wonders of randomness. Spamsheeping for 5 mins, no resists >< |
| 22:51.55 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm guessing we'll be capped in speeds in a few minutes |
| 22:51.56 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: well, he stole my patcher link, so guess I should beat him to it... |
| 22:52.19 | Dashkal | Arrowmaster: ooo, ty |
| 22:52.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Maldivia: where did he steal it? |
| 22:52.30 | cncfanatics | bah |
| 22:52.34 | cncfanatics | I'm at 50kb/s |
| 22:52.35 | Maldivia | ScytheBlade1: he got it from Jayde :) |
| 22:52.39 | Icecoldcoke | ReAn? 500MB O.O Lies |
| 22:52.46 | Xuerian | 60kB/s, HAH cnc! |
| 22:52.49 | cncfanatics | ScytheBlade1: could you connect to me ? :p |
| 22:52.53 | Xuerian | oh 70 >.> |
| 22:52.55 | ScytheBlade1 | 200kB/sec ;) |
| 22:53.00 | ScytheBlade1 | cncfanatics: I'm using rtorrent too, no idea |
| 22:53.11 | foxlit | 800kb/s while downloading that |
| 22:53.25 | foxlit | And that's my downstream limit rather than swarm upstream :) |
| 22:53.26 | cncfanatics | speeding up too |
| 22:53.28 | cncfanatics | at 70kb/s now |
| 22:53.55 | Icecoldcoke | Servers wont be back up until 10PM PST? :/ |
| 22:54.03 | Arrowmaster | ScytheBlade1: us or eu? |
| 22:54.06 | ScytheBlade1 | US |
| 22:54.25 | Arrowmaster | i cant peer inject your server |
| 22:54.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Weird, you should be able to |
| 22:54.40 | Fisker- | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.42 | ScytheBlade1 | 64.22.125.133:6897 |
| 22:54.42 | Fisker- | /headdesk |
| 22:54.44 | cncfanatics | fuck |
| 22:54.48 | Icecoldcoke | My launcher isnt downloading the patch |
| 22:54.49 | cncfanatics | back down to 35kb/s |
| 22:54.50 | cncfanatics | sigh |
| 22:54.56 | cncfanatics | Icecoldcoke: thats normal, log in |
| 22:55.02 | Fisker- | btw they still haven't fixed the authenticator login :D |
| 22:55.03 | Xuerian | ScytheBlade1: stmp.mail? :P |
| 22:55.10 | Arrowmaster | ROFL |
| 22:55.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Xuerian: that's the proper reverse DNS, yes |
| 22:55.13 | Arrowmaster | i caped my downstream |
| 22:55.22 | cncfanatics | WTB |
| 22:55.27 | Xuerian | Arrowmaster: Yeah, I had peers capped, too |
| 22:55.27 | Arrowmaster | im getting like 150kb/s from a bunch of different blizzard downloaders |
| 22:55.40 | cncfanatics | thats nice |
| 22:55.40 | Icecoldcoke | cncfanatics: It just instantly disconnects from the server |
| 22:55.46 | Xuerian | Arrowmaster: Is that you getting 1mb/s now? |
| 22:55.58 | Arrowmaster | from? |
| 22:55.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Where do we find the list of Wrath torrent links on wirebrain? |
| 22:55.58 | Xuerian | (asswholee..) |
| 22:56.04 | Xuerian | Total |
| 22:56.09 | Arrowmaster | my cap is 835 |
| 22:56.18 | cncfanatics | ah well |
| 22:56.21 | cncfanatics | I'll just leave it running |
| 22:56.23 | cncfanatics | g'night ppl |
| 22:56.27 | Xuerian | 'night cnc |
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| 22:56.38 | Arrowmaster | oh wait i spiked to 850kb/s wtf |
| 22:57.03 | Icecoldcoke | laksdhkljashasjkdas |
| 22:57.08 | Icecoldcoke | They removed the frost shock root.. |
| 22:57.13 | Xuerian | wtf? :( |
| 22:57.18 | |pez| | Arrowmaster: Not too unnormal... |
| 22:57.34 | Arrowmaster | yeah i know |
| 22:57.48 | Arrowmaster | just seemed weird since it spiked and stayed there for a few |
| 22:57.58 | NightHawkAtWork | frost shock root? |
| 22:58.01 | Arrowmaster | but now its back to 835kb/s average |
| 22:58.02 | NightHawkAtWork | when did it have a root? |
| 22:58.04 | |pez| | Hehe, good conditions between you and the central then ;P |
| 22:58.08 | Icecoldcoke | It had a 25% chance to root as a talent |
| 22:58.11 | Xuerian | It's had it in beta for a while, NightHawkAtWork |
| 22:58.17 | NightHawkAtWork | hm, i must have missed that. |
| 22:58.42 | Arrowmaster | ScytheBlade1: i have more than your server now |
| 22:58.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah I have no idea what is going on... it's only connected to non-blizzard-downloader peers |
| 22:59.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I suspect blizzard downloader trickery |
| 22:59.16 | Arrowmaster | yeah i bet |
| 22:59.24 | Arrowmaster | im connected to a lot of blizzard downloaders |
| 22:59.30 | Xuerian | Icecoldcoke: Nice... they just removed frostshock from talents period |
| 22:59.49 | Sixen | World of Warcraft UI and Mods |
| 22:59.49 | Sixen | The World of Warcraft Game Systems Team returns to BlizzCon 2008 to discuss what makes the World of Warcraft user interface (UI) such a flexible, innovative, and integral part of the game |
| 22:59.55 | Sixen | Panel at BlizzCon =) |
| 23:00.04 | Arrowmaster | using 'vuze' |
| 23:00.21 | nevcairiel | but not the http peers? |
| 23:00.44 | Arrowmaster | cant connect to the http peers with anything except the blizzard downloader afaik |
| 23:00.53 | Arrowmaster | and i think they cap it at 128kb/s per peer |
| 23:01.07 | Icecoldcoke | Xuerian: If you look they removed paralysis or w/e it was.. instead of lightning bolt gaining an additional 10% in gains an additional 25% of spell damage |
| 23:01.30 | Icecoldcoke | They added it to what used to be the improved frostshock part of Storm earth and fire |
| 23:01.30 | Arrowmaster | wait a sec |
| 23:01.41 | leethal | I apologize if I'm asking silly and obvious questions here, but - http://img.skitch.com/20080808-jfdau89ck8694e9yyqea4x4q3s.png - how can I get the 'CONTROL' and 'TYPE' attributes on the sourceFlags and destFlags arguments? |
| 23:02.09 | Xuerian | Icecoldcoke: yeah... |
| 23:02.20 | Icecoldcoke | Xuerian: But they also removed the chain lightning part.. |
| 23:02.44 | Xuerian | Icecoldcoke: =\ |
| 23:02.44 | Kirov | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&sid=1&pageNo=1#9 |
| 23:02.57 | Arrowmaster | im connected to a bunch of blizzard peers |
| 23:03.01 | Arrowmaster | using the blizzard downloader |
| 23:03.04 | leethal | Kirov: ah nice, thanks |
| 23:03.16 | Pneumatus | the EU patches at least get seeded by their german office at least |
| 23:03.17 | Arrowmaster | confirmed by looking up the netblock of the ip addresses |
| 23:03.21 | Josh_Borke | i only see like 2 priest glyphs i'd want as shadow |
| 23:03.24 | Arrowmaster | owned by Blizzard Entertainment |
| 23:03.26 | Kirov | leetal - bit.band(___Flags, COMBATLOG_OBJECT_CONTROL_PLAYER) == COMBATLOG_OBJECT_CONTROL_PLAYER |
| 23:04.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm still not getting the patch from either the launcher or the in-game, and I have no idea where to find the .torrents on wirebrain for my desktop (want to try peer injection) |
| 23:04.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Anyone know where to find the wrath .torrents on wirebrain? (Not just a direct link to it, prefreably a page with a link to it) |
| 23:05.21 | Arrowmaster | http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/torrent/ |
| 23:06.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Thanks |
| 23:06.41 | Arrowmaster | ScytheBlade1: here have my full 40kb/s upstream |
| 23:06.47 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 23:06.57 | ScytheBlade1 | 71.64.143.75? |
| 23:07.01 | Arrowmaster | maybe |
| 23:07.05 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 23:07.13 | Icecoldcoke | Sigh.. I wish the patch would download for me. If it's 500mbs that will take forever |
| 23:07.15 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: holy... they changed a lot! |
| 23:07.21 | ScytheBlade1 | And my utorrent is getting a full 500kB/sec down... wtf |
| 23:07.23 | nevcairiel | i was hoping |
| 23:07.23 | Arrowmaster | disabled incomming connections and getting peers from tracker, then kicked everybody else |
| 23:07.24 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 23:07.32 | Dashkal | Icecoldcoke: use that link and nab the torrent. |
| 23:07.52 | Arrowmaster | ScytheBlade1: try a different torrent program on your server? |
| 23:07.54 | foxlit | 52520.20%http://code.google.com/codejam/contest/dashboard Win! |
| 23:08.07 | foxlit | (5. 252 0.20%) |
| 23:08.08 | ScytheBlade1 | It's rtorrent... never failed me before |
| 23:08.17 | Arrowmaster | i know |
| 23:08.21 | Arrowmaster | rtorrent is perty damn good |
| 23:08.30 | Arrowmaster | but it seems the blizzard downloader doesnt like it |
| 23:08.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Which is why I'm wonderinf wtf :/ |
| 23:08.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Well see |
| 23:08.38 | ScytheBlade1 | *wondering |
| 23:08.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Last time, my uTorrent refused to work with it |
| 23:08.49 | foxlit | arrow: you can brush against the tracker until you get some good seeds |
| 23:08.49 | ScytheBlade1 | This time, rtorrent is hating on me |
| 23:09.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I was able to peer inject my server just fine, though |
| 23:09.14 | Arrowmaster | foxlit: using vuse and i got a bunch of blizzard seeds right away |
| 23:09.38 | Arrowmaster | ScytheBlade1: yeah i was too, just took a while for it to connect |
| 23:10.03 | ScytheBlade1 | You using Azureus? |
| 23:10.07 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 23:10.09 | ScytheBlade1 | 3.1.1.0? |
| 23:10.13 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 23:10.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Gonna see if I can priortize you |
| 23:10.20 | Arrowmaster | ive already got it |
| 23:10.25 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, never mind |
| 23:10.25 | Arrowmaster | in 10m28s |
| 23:10.34 | Arrowmaster | because of all the blizzard seeds |
| 23:10.42 | ScytheBlade1 | This is really beginning to agitate me |
| 23:10.45 | Icecoldcoke | Im using Opera web browser torrent feature. :p |
| 23:10.53 | Icecoldcoke | It |
| 23:10.58 | Icecoldcoke | 's at 400kb/s right now |
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| 23:11.48 | Neo|Home | Maldivia: details! >:-) |
| 23:12.52 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 23:13.05 | Maldivia | was trying to pastey it, but I fail at counting apparently |
| 23:13.14 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 23:13.43 | nevcairiel | that spam protection in pastey is mighty annoying |
| 23:13.49 | nevcairiel | they should just use a captcha or so |
| 23:14.33 | NightHawkAtWork | :o "Glyph - Chain Heal 01 (Shaman) (Class: Shaman) - Your Chain Heal heals 1 additional target." |
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| 23:14.37 | foxlit | It's fascinating how it's actually easier for a malicious script to pass than for a human, nev |
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| 23:15.19 | Icecoldcoke | NightHawkAtWork - There is also one for Chain Lightning. |
| 23:15.26 | NightHawkAtWork | Icecoldcoke: yeah, but meh. :P |
| 23:15.33 | NightHawkAtWork | thats really less impressive than the CH one |
| 23:15.35 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: http://nerdheaven.dk/~the_real/8714-8770.diff |
| 23:15.42 | Icecoldcoke | It's so we can break 2 CC instead of 1 |
| 23:15.42 | Xuerian | NightHawkAtWork: Needs glyph for frostshock root >:( |
| 23:15.49 | NightHawkAtWork | Icecoldcoke: zing. :P |
| 23:16.04 | NightHawkAtWork | I also like the +3 charges on WS glyph |
| 23:16.29 | Aella | What's (a) the base URL for the patch downloaders, or (b) the link to the downloader for the next beta Mac patch? |
| 23:16.29 | nevcairiel | thanks Maldivia |
| 23:16.42 | Icecoldcoke | That's a good one since WS goes away quickly with the LHW and HW talent.. plus the damage you take all the time in dungeons |
| 23:16.46 | hipjipp | Can anyone help me with writing a new WotLK addon that shows how many active runes you got of each kind? like "ShieldsUp" shows active shields |
| 23:17.33 | nevcairiel | alot of calendar and achievement changes |
| 23:17.48 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 23:18.10 | NightHawkAtWork | hipjipp: in the beta UI forums there's a couple mods for DK runes, might check those to see what they're doing |
| 23:18.17 | NightHawkAtWork | and with that, i'm out. later guys |
| 23:18.24 | Xuerian | No kidding, 1/4 the file or more is calendar changes |
| 23:18.29 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: its a diff og the GB version, but shouldn't matter :) |
| 23:18.42 | nevcairiel | GB is fine with me anyway |
| 23:19.22 | Icecoldcoke | Druids and Shaman can now use items while shapeshifted. Because shamans fight so often while in ghostwolf lolol |
| 23:19.28 | Maldivia | and now, back to naxx :) |
| 23:19.40 | Aella | Anyone have a link to the downloader for 8770? |
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| 23:19.53 | Icecoldcoke | http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/torrent/ |
| 23:19.58 | Neo|Home | I wonder if Blizzard has a ui builder tool that they use to edit all the XML files |
| 23:20.15 | Icecoldcoke | They have professional XML people, I highly doubt that |
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| 23:20.32 | ScytheBl1de1 | Yeah so |
| 23:20.47 | ScytheBl1de1 | The server decided to do something crazy like 50MB/sec down |
| 23:20.49 | Aznamir | is there a really good UI editor for wow? |
| 23:20.52 | ScytheBl1de1 | And promptly ran out of RAM |
| 23:21.01 | foxlit | Aznamir: I'm really fond of notepad, myself. |
| 23:21.10 | foxlit | It's got rich text editing features |
| 23:21.13 | foxlit | Like Find & Replace |
| 23:21.15 | |pez| | Aella: uTorrent! |
| 23:21.18 | |Jelly| | Scite |
| 23:21.23 | foxlit | and maybe even Soft Wrap on demand! |
| 23:21.29 | Aznamir | notepad is cool, but not like it can check syntax and properly closing tags |
| 23:21.36 | foxlit | Meh |
| 23:21.41 | foxlit | Real programmers don't close tags. |
| 23:21.45 | Aznamir | I use wordpad to edit WoW .XMLs |
| 23:21.47 | Aella | Which is why I can't use the filefront download |
| 23:22.25 | Aella | I just want to know what URL they got the downloader/torrent from in the first place |
| 23:22.41 | foxlit | You can extract the torrent from the downloader |
| 23:22.48 | ScytheBl1de1 | ^ |
| 23:22.51 | Aella | Trying to go the other direction ATM |
| 23:22.51 | foxlit | And you can get the downloader from the client |
| 23:23.17 | Aella | The 8770 downloader? |
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| 23:23.36 | Neo|Home | I just don't edit XML at all, but do all my xml needs programatically |
| 23:23.40 | Neo|Home | except embeds.xml |
| 23:23.48 | foxlit | yes |
| 23:24.02 | cbreak | right click, chose "Show Package COntent" in there you find a torrent file. |
| 23:24.03 | Aella | Not from the launcher |
| 23:24.15 | foxlit | Client, not launcher :) |
| 23:24.15 | cbreak | WoW-3.0.1.8714-to-3.0.1.8770-enGB-downloader.app |
| 23:24.26 | Aella | I can figure out that name, but I don't know the base url |
| 23:24.39 | ScytheBlade1 | There is no base URL |
| 23:24.42 | Aella | The client disconnects me |
| 23:24.46 | ScytheBlade1 | You get the download from the WoW client/launcher |
| 23:24.52 | foxlit | Then you're mwhahaha-stuck. |
| 23:24.54 | ScytheBlade1 | If that isn't working, then you get to wait for it to work |
| 23:25.03 | Aella | I don't *have* to =P |
| 23:25.14 | cbreak | you don't have this program? |
| 23:25.38 | Aella | Nope, because PatchSequenceFile.txt hasn't been updated, and the client doesn't let me get far enough to check build number |
| 23:26.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, same here. Hence why I grabbed the torrent. |
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| 23:26.09 | Xuerian | Question is, why do you want the downloader anyway? |
| 23:26.13 | ScytheBlade1 | It's pretty hard to worry about it being a "bad" torrent when it's using the blizzard trackers. |
| 23:26.26 | cbreak | weird. |
| 23:26.30 | Xuerian | It's going to be doing the exact same thing as utorrent will |
| 23:26.41 | Aella | I know. I'm not worried about the torrent. Just trying to avoid adding yet another program to my boxâhaven't needed a torrenter yet, won't for a while after this |
| 23:26.47 | cbreak | I didn't have any problem here. |
| 23:27.15 | Xuerian | You don't even have to install a handful of torrent programs, what's the problem? Download, run, download, delete |
| 23:28.02 | Aella | There isn't a problem. That's merely why I'm asking this question even after I've got a link to the torrent |
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| 23:28.24 | Xuerian | Oh, and technically, the downloader IS another program >_> |
| 23:28.28 | Aella | I know. |
| 23:29.49 | Anaral | *sighs* AddonStudio 2.0 Beta doesn't wants to throw up errors. |
| 23:30.34 | Aella | Hmm, that torrent is definitely a link to the Windows patch |
| 23:30.43 | Anaral | ~doesn't/does |
| 23:32.19 | cbreak | if you want I can give you the torrent out of the mac downloader |
| 23:32.32 | cbreak | but I didn't test it with an other app |
| 23:32.36 | cbreak | so it might not work |
| 23:32.36 | Aella | You have the enGB one, don't you? |
| 23:32.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Druids and Shaman can now use items while shapeshifted. |
| 23:32.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Nerf |
| 23:33.00 | cbreak | yes |
| 23:33.17 | ScytheBlade1 | # |
| 23:33.17 | ScytheBlade1 | # Quests can be shared with party members at any distance. |
| 23:33.18 | ScytheBlade1 | # Quests can be shared with party members by linking the quest into party chat. |
| 23:33.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Win |
| 23:33.30 | ScytheBlade1 | A 5 minute timer will appear over the player?s unit frame showing the countdown until your PvP flag is cleared. |
| 23:33.33 | ScytheBlade1 | More win |
| 23:33.34 | |pez| | that's very win. |
| 23:33.57 | Aella | The launcher does a HTTP request to get the downloader, and no one knows the path? =P |
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| 23:34.11 | cbreak | water elemental gives mana. I am very happy with the with the frost tree |
| 23:34.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Why do you want this path so very badly? |
| 23:34.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Just curious |
| 23:34.23 | cbreak | the request isn't done in the browser aella :) |
| 23:34.31 | Aella | Doesn't mean you can't find the path =P |
| 23:34.36 | cbreak | it downloads the downloader itself |
| 23:34.47 | cbreak | I don't run a packet sniffer... |
| 23:35.01 | Aella | Nothing in Launcher-warnings.log? |
| 23:35.16 | Anaral | so how did wotlkwiki get the patch? |
| 23:35.28 | ScytheBlade1 | The same way everyone else got it? |
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| 23:35.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Look |
| 23:35.43 | ScytheBlade1 | The paths are standard, you can sniff any one of the previous ones to find the current |
| 23:35.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Then you just hit the current until it doesn't 404 |
| 23:35.59 | Aella | I don't know any of the previous ones, that's basically my question |
| 23:36.03 | Anaral | Ah |
| 23:36.09 | ScytheBlade1 | And as you can tell, no one here does offhand either |
| 23:36.10 | Anaral | Right, I don't either. |
| 23:36.15 | Anaral | Heh |
| 23:36.50 | cbreak | http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=468827 (No guarantee that it works) |
| 23:36.56 | cbreak | it's just the torrent file for the patch |
| 23:37.02 | ScytheBlade1 | If you want to find it, feel free to fire up the sniffer yourself once your launcher picks it up |
| 23:37.17 | Aella | The launcher won't even request that if it doesn't think a patch is available |
| 23:37.26 | ScytheBlade1 | "once your launcher picks it up" |
| 23:37.30 | ScytheBlade1 | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 23:37.31 | cbreak | well, one is available :) |
| 23:37.39 | Aella | Once it does, I won't have an problems =) |
| 23:38.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Then quit asking? lol |
| 23:38.24 | cbreak | downloading is slow as molasse anyway. |
| 23:38.41 | Aella | Which is why I want to get a start on it, since I won't be around tonight. |
| 23:38.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Then use the .torrents already |
| 23:39.01 | Aella | The linked torrent is the Windows patch |
| 23:39.05 | cbreak | no |
| 23:39.13 | Aella | Is there a difference between enUS/enGB patches? |
| 23:39.16 | cbreak | why should I download the windows patch? :) |
| 23:39.19 | Aella | (I know yours isn't, cbreak.) |
| 23:39.36 | Maldivia | Aella: yes, the language |
| 23:39.43 | Lonny` | Aella, I assume so due to the localization. |
| 23:39.44 | cbreak | The US patch has common spelling mistakes :) |
| 23:39.46 | Kirkburn|afk | enGB is normally a bit larger |
| 23:39.48 | Maldivia | Aella: also, the enGB patch contains deDE, frFR and esES patches |
| 23:40.00 | Aella | Then I'm guessing I can't use it. |
| 23:40.02 | cbreak | it does? |
| 23:40.20 | Kirkburn|afk | New patch has an awesome frostwyrm surprise :P |
| 23:40.20 | cbreak | enGB is 512mb, how big is the US one? |
| 23:40.27 | ScytheBlade1 | 498 |
| 23:41.09 | Aella | cbreak: your Launcher-warnings.log has no useful information, I'm guessing? |
| 23:41.23 | cbreak | useful for what? |
| 23:41.28 | Aella | The URL it downloaded. |
| 23:41.35 | cbreak | no |
| 23:43.43 | Slix | Hmm |
| 23:43.52 | Slix | I think one of my addons is causing fps lag |
| 23:43.56 | Slix | How can I find out which one? |
| 23:44.26 | cbreak | disable some of them |
| 23:44.42 | Slix | o_o;; |
| 23:44.48 | Slix | Thats a lot of addons to disable |
| 23:44.56 | Slix | Isn't there some sort of performance monitor? |
| 23:45.01 | cbreak | it should work in O(log(n)) |
| 23:45.06 | Slix | o_O |
| 23:45.11 | Arrowmaster | enable cpu profiling |
| 23:45.23 | cbreak | I think I saw an addon that did it once |
| 23:45.30 | Slix | o_PO |
| 23:45.36 | Slix | Where is cpu profiling? |
| 23:45.45 | Kaso| | you need an addon |
| 23:45.46 | Shirik | profiles cpu time |
| 23:45.49 | Shirik | oh |
| 23:45.50 | Shirik | where |
| 23:45.54 | Kaso| | performancefu is an example of one iirc |
| 23:45.59 | Shirik | you need an addon unless you like typing a million scripts |
| 23:46.16 | Anaral | sldatatext is what I use |
| 23:46.27 | Slix | Ok.. |
| 23:46.29 | Slix | performancefu.. |
| 23:46.39 | Slix | but i have fubar disabled.. |
| 23:46.45 | cbreak | remember to turn off cpu profiling afterwards |
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| 23:47.27 | Kaso| | well enable fubar ? |
| 23:47.30 | Slix | Ok.. |
| 23:47.31 | Slix | Thanks |
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| 23:48.28 | Kaso| | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7175-ResourceTools.html |
| 23:48.31 | Kaso| | works too |
| 23:48.47 | Slix | Thankis |
| 23:48.49 | Slix | Thanks* |
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| 23:53.49 | batrick | Cairenn|afk: ping |
| 23:55.05 | Aella | Yay, it's been published. *stores the url for later reference* |
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| 23:56.43 | cbreak | funny. In the changelog the priest changes are a subsection in the Paladin changes |
| 23:57.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoa, there is some fun debug messages from the WoW launcher |
| 23:57.30 | ScytheBlade1 | No version for 'SC2-Program'. |
| 23:57.30 | ScytheBlade1 | SC2-Launcher version is '1.6.3.316'. |
| 23:57.38 | Aella | Haha |
| 23:57.48 | Aella | Are all of Blizz's games gonna have launchers now? >.< |
| 23:58.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Would it be a bad thing? |
| 23:58.08 | Aella | Not really. |
| 23:58.11 | Aella | It just interests me. |
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| 23:59.46 | Cairenn|afk | batrick: pong |
| 23:59.47 | Kirkburn|afk | Aella, wouldn't surprise me |
