| 00:00.37 | cbreak | what mac os x special? |
| 00:01.45 | Rabbitbunny | shiny plastic. |
| 00:02.44 | Kirov | hipjipp - special mac formatting, the lua code is replaced with a single, untitled button |
| 00:03.11 | Kirov | You just click it. If it doesn't do what you want, you want the wrong thing. |
| 00:03.21 | hipjipp | kirov: got an example or know where i can find one? |
| 00:03.30 | hipjipp | ah.. :P |
| 00:04.05 | Kirov | hipjipp - the __MACOSX folder can be safely ignored and deleted. It's similar to the desktop.ini file on Windows OS |
| 00:04.38 | Kirov | (it's settings to define the visual look of a folder and it's contents) |
| 00:05.03 | cbreak | that's in .DS_Store |
| 00:05.08 | hipjipp | kirov: i was just wondering since i recently switched to a macbook and wondered if i could optimize my addons for myself anyhow.. :P |
| 00:05.23 | cbreak | __MACOSX is for resource forks and other stuff that can't be stored in flat file systems or zip archives |
| 00:05.27 | cbreak | but it has nothing to do with lua |
| 00:06.14 | cbreak | lua is the same on all operating systems |
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| 00:12.29 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, good thread in CSF |
| 00:12.29 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8557068623&sid=1 |
| 00:13.06 | Tem | oh god lol |
| 00:13.17 | Tem | taken from guild chat |
| 00:13.33 | Tem | "A: B's a girl IRL" |
| 00:13.40 | Tem | "B: True story." |
| 00:13.54 | Tem | "C: Yeah, I heard the operation was a success" |
| 00:14.15 | Tem | "D: Almost... there's still that funny-looking nub" |
| 00:14.22 | ScytheBlade1 | 0_0 |
| 00:14.41 | Tem | "A: No, D, that's called the Clitoris" |
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| 00:15.02 | Kalroth | lol |
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| 00:22.00 | Codex| | is there an easy ay to ignore an entire guild? |
| 00:22.08 | Dashkal | oh I so wish |
| 00:22.32 | Nechckn | Anyone speak Italian?? |
| 00:22.53 | Tem | zomg, it's Felicia Day! |
| 00:23.25 | Tem | Codex|, get rid of your gnome warlock problem yet? |
| 00:23.36 | Tem | (/me hopes -someone- gets the reference) |
| 00:24.54 | hipjipp | Enjoy the rest of the night people, i'm off to sleep |
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| 00:26.12 | Thunder_Child | Nechckn, lots of people speak italian |
| 00:26.16 | |pez| | now this, this is neat. http://silverbackapp.com/ |
| 00:26.26 | |pez| | look at the wines at the top |
| 00:26.28 | |pez| | vines? |
| 00:26.40 | Codex| | lol tem |
| 00:26.42 | |pez| | then resize your window, while looking at the vines. |
| 00:27.29 | |pez| | do it slowly though |
| 00:27.51 | Nechckn | Thunder_Child trying to help a person in our help channel who speaks Italian |
| 00:28.22 | Thunder_Child | i know Nechckn, i'm just being an ass as usual |
| 00:28.25 | Nechckn | their English is not so good... |
| 00:28.31 | Nechckn | Ok, ok.. gotcha |
| 00:28.38 | alestane | |pez|: Those would be vines, yes. |
| 00:29.05 | Thunder_Child | ~thunder_child |
| 00:29.06 | purl | Thunder_Child is an asshole |
| 00:29.16 | alestane | Interesting parallax depth effect. I hope it's not abusing all hell out of CSS. |
| 00:29.39 | |pez| | http://www.thinkvitamin.com/features/design/how-to-recreate-silverbacks-parallax |
| 00:29.59 | |pez| | same effect, damned cute - http://dromaeo.com/ |
| 00:30.29 | Lunessa | *sigh* The Law of Unintended Consequences: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8557368268&sid=1 |
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| 00:34.19 | Drundia | Lunessa, it should also trigger 1.5 sec GCD so he can't start next spell instantly after doing that |
| 00:35.03 | Codex| | it wouldnt be hard to make an addon that when ur whispered, it /whse, and if its the guold u want ignored, filter their cat and send them a message saying they are ignore |
| 00:35.06 | Lunessa | It should indeed. If he's willing to eay a GCD to get "mana conserve" shit back... |
| 00:35.12 | Codex| | ./who's |
| 00:35.38 | alestane | From what I understand, healers right now consider GCDs a far more valuable and limited resource than mana. |
| 00:35.45 | cbreak | fun :) |
| 00:37.21 | Drundia | i think if they don't want it to work, they rather adjust item swapping mechanics a bit. instead of cancelling spells on item swap, prevent swapping items while casting. |
| 00:38.13 | Drundia | because more things protected is bad :( |
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| 00:40.21 | alestane | "Another action is in progress." |
| 00:40.37 | Codex| | yea, id love that guild ignore mod |
| 00:41.54 | alestane | Although, they probably could protect equipping now, at least during combat, without any serious repercussions...that was the only major application for insecure equipping that I'm aware of, of than various item-rack things which could still work out of combat. |
| 00:42.42 | Rabbitbunny | I did something wrong. It's forgetting my nested table thing on logout. |
| 00:44.05 | alestane | Are you saving that table in a variable named as a SavedVariable in your addon's .toc? |
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| 00:44.53 | Rabbitbunny | ...I don't know what you're talking about, so no. Thanks for the keywords though. |
| 00:46.15 | Drundia | alestane, maybe not the only major, but more likely the only explotive. there is no real reason, why equipping an item should be considered priority action so it auto-cancels spells, like movement. |
| 00:46.35 | Tem | If we're lucky, blizzard will add their own itemrack |
| 00:47.12 | Tem | and it'll be good enough that itemrack addons can be just graphical frontends for blizzard's thing |
| 00:47.22 | cbreak | it will suck as much as blizzard's raid frames. |
| 00:47.52 | selckin | as long as it has seprate bags for gear! |
| 00:47.54 | Esamynn | |pez|: oh crap! |
| 00:49.25 | Drundia | with those few equippable items that cast non-instant spells, i've managed to fail a few times, and would rather see there "another action is in progress", than interrupting spell and waiting 30 sec for equip-cooldown again. speaking of equip-cooldown, i think it serves no purpose for items that can't be equipped in combat (bless goblin jumper cables that stopped being trinket) |
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| 00:50.59 | Codex| | anyone else getting a blank raid tab half the time? |
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| 00:52.10 | Arrowmaster | yeah the spell canceling needs to only happen in combat, just like the normal gcd from swaping weapons thats only incombat |
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| 01:11.04 | Esamynn | anyone in here speak Italian? |
| 01:11.35 | JoshBorke | well actually |
| 01:11.37 | JoshBorke | no, no i don't |
| 01:12.23 | Esamynn | :P |
| 01:12.30 | JoshBorke | <3 |
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| 01:15.29 | Shirik | purl speaks italian, Esamynn |
| 01:15.32 | Shirik | ~x en it hello |
| 01:15.42 | Esamynn | ~lart Shirik |
| 01:15.42 | purl | puts Shirik through a wood chipper |
| 01:16.04 | Lopeppeppy | purl also has an identity crisis again, I see. |
| 01:16.08 | Lopeppeppy | ~botsnack |
| 01:16.08 | purl | Lopeppeppy: aw, gee |
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| 01:38.43 | Codex| | ../run local u,c,n,r=UnitIsUnit,UnitExists("raid1") and "raid" or "party";for i=1,c=="raid" and 40 or 4 do if not u(c..i,"player") and u(c..i.."target","focus") then n,r=UnitName(c..i)SendChatMessage("Auto-test","WHISPER",nil,r and n.."-"..r or n) end end |
| 01:38.52 | Codex| | any reason why the macro isnt doin crap? |
| 01:44.20 | Arrowmaster | UnitExists("raid1") |
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| 01:44.27 | Drundia | is it a riddle? do i get a cookie if i find out answer? |
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| 01:44.30 | Arrowmaster | you can be in a raid but raid1 not exist i think |
| 01:46.12 | Arrowmaster | UnitName(c..i)SendChatMessage("Auto-test","WHISPER",nil,r and n.."-"..r or n) |
| 01:46.20 | Arrowmaster | add a ; between those just to be safe |
| 01:46.34 | Drundia | hmmm, is it supposed to whisper a person that targets your focus? |
| 01:46.40 | Arrowmaster | thats one of the rare times you need a ; |
| 01:47.47 | Drundia | well, maybe no one targets your focus? |
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| 01:52.10 | Codex| | if i change focus to target |
| 01:52.16 | Codex| | and someones targetting my target |
| 01:52.17 | Codex| | nothing happens |
| 01:53.17 | Codex| | wait got it |
| 01:55.19 | Codex| | thanks :) |
| 01:56.35 | p3lim | is there some feature to get mail warnings as a new bug report or feature request is added to my portal? |
| 01:57.15 | Kirov | ~seen Dolby |
| 01:57.16 | purl | dolby is currently on #wowuidev, last said: 'normally I'm not'. |
| 01:57.52 | Dolby | not at the moment p3lim |
| 01:58.06 | Dolby | its been requested and on my list |
| 01:58.08 | p3lim | Dolby: Any chance there could be? |
| 01:58.08 | haste | Dolby: not sentence you made purl_ write there :3 |
| 01:58.17 | haste | s/n/h/ |
| 01:58.52 | p3lim | Dolby: Ok :) |
| 01:58.57 | Dolby | :) |
| 01:59.19 | Kraps | how do i get rid of questhelper completely? |
| 01:59.32 | Kirov | Kraps - delete it? |
| 01:59.53 | Kraps | the quest log is still different |
| 02:00.11 | Arrowmaster | it shouldnt be |
| 02:00.16 | Kirov | questhelper doesn't modify the quest log |
| 02:00.19 | Arrowmaster | and if it is then it wasnt questhelper doing it |
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| 02:05.58 | *** kick/#WoWUIDev [Thunder_Child!n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn|afk (nice new sig you've got there :p) |
| 02:07.26 | Zeksie | anyone been having problems with wotlk just exiting when loading addons? found it's the ## RequiredDeps: definition that's kicking mine out.. |
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| 02:09.16 | Thunder_Child | how did you JUST see it Cairenn|afk? |
| 02:09.26 | Thunder_Child | we even talked about it yesterday |
| 02:09.34 | Cairenn|afk | I normally gloss over sigs |
| 02:09.41 | Cairenn|afk | and I don't remember talking about it |
| 02:09.43 | Zeksie | ahh. and just found the problem. had a cyclic reference in one dependancy, that referenced the one it just came from. never been an issue until now. |
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| 02:09.54 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn|afk, ya, when i found that site about the bot you kicked |
| 02:10.07 | Thunder_Child | box something or other |
| 02:10.12 | Cairenn|afk | oh, I remember the quote itself |
| 02:10.21 | Cairenn|afk | I just didn't know you'd put it in your sig :p |
| 02:10.25 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Guillotine] by ChanServ |
| 02:10.28 | Thunder_Child | yep, i win |
| 02:10.37 | Lopeppeppy | Brick? |
| 02:10.47 | Cairenn|afk | ~win Thunder_Child |
| 02:10.48 | purl | Congratulations, Thunder_Child! You have won the US presidency! |
| 02:11.00 | Thunder_Child | cant, i wasnt born in the US |
| 02:11.03 | Cairenn|afk | ~win Thunder_Child |
| 02:11.03 | purl | Congratulations, Thunder_Child! You have won a one way ticket to baghdad! |
| 02:11.06 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy, ya sounds right |
| 02:11.50 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: You're going to have to wait for the Schwartzenegger Amendment... |
| 02:11.59 | Thunder_Child | lol Lunessa |
| 02:12.17 | Thunder_Child | the only way i will ever want to become pres is if i take it over by force |
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| 02:13.44 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: Don't make me take up arms against you. |
| 02:14.01 | Kraps | best early pet? |
| 02:14.55 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, sorry, but i'm not afraid of gun toating (sp?) drunkards |
| 02:14.55 | batbot | Thunder_Child, boating, coating, moating, toasting, tooting, toting, totting, touting. |
| 02:15.07 | Thunder_Child | toting? |
| 02:15.08 | Thunder_Child | w/e |
| 02:15.29 | Lunessa | toting. |
| 02:15.57 | Lunessa | And I'm a so-shall drinker. Any time someone says "I think I'll have a drink" I say, "So shall I." |
| 02:17.00 | Lopeppeppy | How about now? |
| 02:17.21 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, i'll have a drink |
| 02:17.24 | Thunder_Child | of water |
| 02:17.28 | Lunessa | So shall I. |
| 02:17.53 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, i'll have a drink |
| 02:17.57 | Thunder_Child | of cat piss |
| 02:18.08 | Lunessa | I'll have a whiskey. |
| 02:18.14 | Corrodias | same thing. |
| 02:18.24 | Thunder_Child | lol, Corrodias, beat me to it |
| 02:20.58 | p3lim | snap |
| 02:21.26 | p3lim | didnt know that externals would be unproperly downloaded using \ instead of / for linux/unix users |
| 02:22.49 | Amarande | yay ... apparently, Ramps with a PuG is somewhat like trying to do one's first learning run of Naxxramas |
| 02:23.02 | Lopeppeppy | I'm having a mojito. |
| 02:23.31 | kaiden | mmm mojito |
| 02:23.33 | Corrodias | i want something with spiced rum right now, but i don't know what i can do with it |
| 02:23.40 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, do we know enough lua to do the site in it? |
| 02:24.01 | Lunessa | I don't, but it's not like it's hard to learn. |
| 02:24.07 | Amarande | also, apparently blues from Scholo and Strat are hopelessly inadequate to tank Ramps at the speed that PuG players want to go usually |
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| 02:24.37 | Cairenn|afk | Thunder_Child, Lunessa: you still talking about the meta-site? |
| 02:24.44 | Thunder_Child | yes Cairenn|afk |
| 02:24.44 | alestane | That's their problem...is the tank actually dying? |
| 02:24.52 | Lunessa | Yes. The AddOn Almanac. |
| 02:24.54 | Cairenn|afk | two things |
| 02:25.01 | Thunder_Child | still going with that Lunessa? |
| 02:25.07 | Lunessa | So far TC |
| 02:25.08 | Corrodias | i never saw the inside of stratholme before the expansion, and i was raiding ZG and all |
| 02:25.21 | Corrodias | bastards just wouldn't PUG in my realm |
| 02:25.34 | Cairenn|afk | a) make sure that the links are links to the pages on the sites themselves, not direct to the download, that way no one gets pissed off at you |
| 02:25.43 | Cairenn|afk | b) yes, we will be happy to host it for you |
| 02:25.46 | Thunder_Child | yes mother :P |
| 02:25.51 | Cairenn|afk | just saying :p |
| 02:26.18 | Thunder_Child | ok, thanks for the update |
| 02:26.27 | Cairenn|afk | :) |
| 02:26.41 | Dashkal | Corrodias: I'm not sorry :p I refuse to PUG on account of my 33% success ratio |
| 02:26.54 | Lunessa | Cairenn|afk: Then we can haz hosting plz? |
| 02:27.00 | Dashkal | when more fail than succeed, you begin to lose faith in pubbies |
| 02:27.00 | Amarande | alestane: I'm the tank, and I seem to die 3-4 times on a *good* Ramps run |
| 02:27.06 | Cairenn|afk | Lunessa: just said that :p |
| 02:27.20 | Lunessa | <3 I was just being silly. |
| 02:27.20 | Corrodias | in my own way, by quitting the game, i also refuse to pug |
| 02:27.23 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn|afk, it's easier on the blood preasure if you ignore him |
| 02:27.27 | Cairenn|afk | hehehe |
| 02:27.34 | Amarande | however, there seems nothing else I can do unless I abandon my plan to rep up optimally for Thrallmar |
| 02:27.54 | Lunessa | And yes, the plan was always to link to the site with the hosted AddOn, not directly to the AddOn. |
| 02:28.04 | Amarande | quests = bad. quests = taking up rep that should be reserved for -after- I'm done with repping up in BF/Ramps, so I won't have to run SH as much to get exalted. |
| 02:28.12 | Thunder_Child | otherwise we skirt that adds and thats bad |
| 02:28.14 | Lunessa | "We Don't Host Files" |
| 02:28.35 | Amarande | quests also = relatively difficult to do solo, since with low DPS you don't get to kill things fast enough before you have to scoot because a Fel Reaver is coming. |
| 02:28.37 | Thunder_Child | well linking to the DL directly wouldnt be hosting it... |
| 02:28.47 | Thunder_Child | just crappy |
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| 02:29.08 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: Totally. Sites need eyeballs to earn revenue. |
| 02:29.26 | Cairenn|afk | yup |
| 02:29.44 | Thunder_Child | indeed....hmm..speaking of which, Cairenn|afk, besides the hosted plaque from you guys is adds needed? |
| 02:30.06 | Cairenn|afk | need to talk to Dolby on that |
| 02:30.12 | Thunder_Child | ok |
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| 02:31.35 | Lunessa | Gah, going to need an artist, 'cause I'm not so good at making with the pretty pixels. |
| 02:31.47 | Rabbitbunny | Hmm. there's probably not an easy way for a Unit call to return DPS eh? |
| 02:32.06 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, i know one, i will talk to him |
| 02:32.24 | Thunder_Child | at the moment he ows me enough favors to qualify for me owning his first born |
| 02:32.36 | Lunessa | ok. Going to need to decide on site policies soon enough too. |
| 02:34.55 | Lunessa | Oh man. 1 hour to go, starving. Sort of pointless to go to lunch now... |
| 02:35.16 | Cairenn|afk | what sort of policies |
| 02:35.35 | Thunder_Child | site policies? |
| 02:35.46 | Thunder_Child | submission policies |
| 02:35.48 | Thunder_Child | etc. |
| 02:35.50 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr |
| 02:35.56 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 02:36.16 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: yes. Those. |
| 02:36.37 | Lopeppeppy | ~hug Gryphen |
| 02:36.37 | purl | ACTION jumps into Gryphen's lap and huggles and *hugs* Gryphen |
| 02:37.11 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn|afk, any policies that being hosted by you guys would necetate (sp?) ? |
| 02:37.11 | batbot | Thunder_Child, nothing found. |
| 02:37.13 | Cairenn|afk | http://www.wowinterface.com/survivalguide.php is probably a good general idea of what you should be considering doing |
| 02:37.16 | Thunder_Child | bah i fail |
| 02:37.20 | Cairenn|afk | just add screenshots |
| 02:37.43 | Thunder_Child | necessitate* |
| 02:37.45 | Cairenn|afk | Thunder_Child: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=158 |
| 02:38.30 | Cairenn|afk | keep everything PG13 |
| 02:38.37 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn|afk, and ty nor the non-rp version after |
| 02:38.41 | Thunder_Child | for* |
| 02:38.45 | Cairenn|afk | no linking to those nude-mods |
| 02:39.02 | Thunder_Child | lol, wasnt going to be nude mods, just pictures |
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| 02:39.05 | Cairenn|afk | no linking to anything that'll piss off blizz |
| 02:39.10 | Cairenn|afk | Thunder_Child: lol |
| 02:39.34 | Thunder_Child | well crap, there goes our section on glider XD |
| 02:39.35 | Cairenn|afk | you aren't planning on forums or anything, so that won't be a problem |
| 02:40.50 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn|afk, thats under discussion atm |
| 02:40.58 | p3lim | Oh and thanks Dolby for looking at my archive feature request :) |
| 02:41.22 | Lunessa | Cairenn|afk: Between that, http://www.vranx.com/, and the fin.instinct.org thing you linked yesterday is the general way we're looking at it. |
| 02:41.56 | Cairenn|afk | *nod* |
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| 02:43.19 | duaiwe | This is awesome, http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/jul/23/mediamonkey |
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| 02:47.59 | Lunessa | Warning - potentially disturbing: http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=692762 - I had to say, "There can be only one!" |
| 02:49.21 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, pfft, old |
| 02:49.34 | Thunder_Child | :) |
| 02:51.20 | Lunessa | that letter was... entertaining. |
| 02:52.04 | Lopeppeppy | Yuk |
| 02:52.36 | Thunder_Child | brb, need drinks |
| 02:53.26 | Lunessa | so shall I. |
| 02:53.41 | NightHawkTheSane | heh, hancock meets the dark night. http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/pdx_knows_how_to_sell_movie_tickets |
| 02:56.21 | Lunessa | ... More like LOL the Pussycat Theater. |
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| 03:01.22 | Hjalte | p3lim: Hi there. I use pMinimap but after being logged in for some time, I usually find my minimap round (with a black square border) instead of all square like it's supposed to. Do you have a clue what is happening? |
| 03:02.57 | Lunessa | Cairenn|afk: I totally want to steal your link icons... |
| 03:03.09 | Cairenn|afk | Lunessa: permission granted |
| 03:03.13 | Lunessa | thanks. |
| 03:03.17 | Cairenn|afk | you're welcome |
| 03:03.22 | p3lim | Hjalte: I need some more information on that |
| 03:03.37 | p3lim | You doing anything specific as this changes? |
| 03:03.43 | Hjalte | p3lim: I can link you to a screenshot of it. Let me find it. |
| 03:04.18 | Hjalte | p3lim: Nothing that I can think of, no. But it is very consistent, it always happens to me at some point. Even after just afking in shattrah, maybe after a reload ui or something. |
| 03:04.19 | Lopeppeppy | Night, everypeople. |
| 03:04.20 | p3lim | Issue is probably that wow changes the mask |
| 03:04.23 | *** part/#wowuidev Lopeppeppy (n=Lopeppep@cpe-68-172-80-6.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 03:05.20 | Hjalte | p3lim: http://www.hjalte.com/WoWScrnShot_072808_222149.jpg |
| 03:05.24 | p3lim | Anyone know how to search for a line of text in lua in windows btw? |
| 03:05.28 | p3lim | Windows Search is crap |
| 03:05.57 | Cairenn|afk | Lunessa: we have an alternate icon for Ace if you are using a light background |
| 03:06.19 | Cairenn|afk | just switch to WoWI's light background and then go to the survival guide if you want to snag it too |
| 03:06.39 | Lunessa | Cairenn|afk: I'll scam the details from you via e-mail. I haven't sketched it yet. I just liked the icons. |
| 03:06.45 | Cairenn|afk | :) |
| 03:07.03 | Cairenn|afk | Dolby did a good job with them, as usual :) |
| 03:07.09 | Lunessa | Right now, I'm too fsking hungry to be creative. |
| 03:07.43 | Lunessa | yeah, ever since I saw his large .sig files on EQUI back in the day, I envied his artistic ability. |
| 03:07.52 | Cairenn|afk | :) |
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| 03:10.21 | p3lim | Hjalte: I can fix it if i get a proper tool to scan through multiple lua files, as said above, windows search is utter crap |
| 03:10.48 | Lunessa | p3lim: Heh, I think you can get grep for windows... |
| 03:10.50 | NightHawkTheSane | p3lim: gnu tools for windows, or wingrep |
| 03:11.07 | Lunessa | http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/grep.htm |
| 03:11.09 | Hjalte | p3lim: That sounds awesome, I'm looking forward to that. |
| 03:11.46 | p3lim | Lunessa: Ill take a look, thanks |
| 03:12.19 | p3lim | Though I dont know how to use grep |
| 03:12.33 | NightHawkTheSane | google it |
| 03:12.58 | NightHawkTheSane | wingrep has a fairly straightforward interface, too |
| 03:12.59 | p3lim | Lunessa: Which of those zip files should I download? |
| 03:13.03 | Lunessa | grep is a *nix tool that does searching through files for matching lines. |
| 03:13.38 | Lunessa | Grab the binaires since I doubt you want to compile it. |
| 03:13.56 | Lunessa | http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/install.html |
| 03:14.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: aww, you mean your help doesn't come with a visual studio tutorial? |
| 03:14.02 | NightHawkTheSane | being able to grep is a basic property all programmers should ldearn :P |
| 03:14.04 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:14.48 | Lunessa | ScytheBlade1: I don't mind helping, I just refuse to always do it for someone. I mean, you know... there's only so much of me to go around. |
| 03:15.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah that was supposed to be incredibly sarcastic |
| 03:16.27 | Lunessa | I know. And I totally popped your balloon. :P |
| 03:16.51 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:17.13 | p3lim | "This application has failed to start because libntl3.dll was not found." |
| 03:17.34 | Lunessa | Dependancies - get those too. :P |
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| 03:19.29 | p3lim | hm |
| 03:19.40 | p3lim | and how exactly do I use this with cmd? |
| 03:21.45 | p3lim | like, "grep for dummies" guide or somewhat :p |
| 03:21.58 | Lunessa | See the link I pasted above. It explains use. Also, Google will give you eleventy-billion articles on the beauty and the Dao of GREP. |
| 03:22.02 | NightHawkTheSane | well, you need to make sure the exe is in your path |
| 03:22.14 | NightHawkTheSane | so you can just call it with `grep`, but beyond that, google for a grep man page |
| 03:22.52 | Lunessa | It's a feature that really should be built into every fsking o/s. |
| 03:23.07 | NightHawkTheSane | it's built into all major os's except windows, really |
| 03:23.08 | NightHawkTheSane | >.> |
| 03:23.09 | Amarande | Lunessa: you mean the *Tao*? |
| 03:23.24 | Lunessa | No, I mean Dao. |
| 03:23.46 | Lunessa | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tao |
| 03:24.07 | Thunder_Child | lol |
| 03:24.15 | p3lim | "Most programs are command-line programs, and so should be run from a command prompt (DOS-box: command.com or cmd.exe). In the Windows Explorer, you may also associate a program or a batch file that calls the program, with a file extension. The length of the command-line is limited; see MSDN. " |
| 03:24.25 | p3lim | doesnt say a frigging thing about what to write in cmd |
| 03:24.26 | p3lim | :/ |
| 03:24.55 | NightHawkTheSane | !g man grep |
| 03:24.56 | batbot | NightHawkTheSane: UNIX man pages : grep () <http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?grep> |
| 03:24.57 | Lunessa | http://www.gnu.org/software/grep/doc/ |
| 03:25.02 | NightHawkTheSane | p3lim: l2google. |
| 03:25.34 | Thunder_Child | ~hurry Lunessa |
| 03:25.44 | Thunder_Child | oh for cryin out loud |
| 03:25.59 | Thunder_Child | do you have /nothing/ anymore purl |
| 03:26.01 | Lunessa | ~flame Thunder_Child |
| 03:26.01 | purl | Thunder_Child, YOU SUCK. And you know it. |
| 03:26.10 | Thunder_Child | ~troll Lunessa |
| 03:26.11 | purl | ACTION hereby declares Lunessa a troll |
| 03:27.48 | p3lim | when I try using grep in cmd it says its not a valid function or something |
| 03:29.21 | Arrowmaster | on windows? |
| 03:30.27 | Soulsbane | it needs to be in your path. type path from console and see if where you installed it is listed(assuming windows) |
| 03:31.27 | p3lim | yeah I kinda need a "grep for dummies" guide on how/where to install and then use it |
| 03:31.42 | p3lim | i rarely use any *nix utilites whatsoever |
| 03:32.28 | sylvanaar | oh, i have it for you |
| 03:32.39 | sylvanaar | well, grep for windows |
| 03:33.03 | p3lim | yeah I got that |
| 03:33.09 | p3lim | not quite sure where to put it tho |
| 03:33.15 | p3lim | downloaded bin and deps |
| 03:33.17 | sylvanaar | its a commerical product |
| 03:34.14 | Lunessa | damnit... I should be walking out the door right now, but noooooo... a major system has to crash. |
| 03:34.23 | Thunder_Child | ~lol Lunessa |
| 03:34.24 | purl | ACTION Laughs out Loud at Lunessa |
| 03:34.58 | sylvanaar | www.jgsoft.com - best regex capable tools for windows (or anywhere i have seen). |
| 03:35.15 | sylvanaar | you can use regexbuddy for simple grep |
| 03:35.37 | |Yssaril| | p3lim: http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/grep.htm use the first setup link there |
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| 03:35.53 | sylvanaar | nothing compares to regexbuddy |
| 03:36.01 | Shirik | regexbuddy is <3 <3 <3 |
| 03:36.08 | Shirik | used it for years |
| 03:36.09 | sylvanaar | thank you Shirik |
| 03:36.20 | Shirik | also works on Linux btw |
| 03:36.29 | sylvanaar | do you use my lua source hilighting and folding? |
| 03:36.33 | sylvanaar | Shirik |
| 03:36.42 | Shirik | no :( |
| 03:36.53 | sylvanaar | thats for epp, sorry |
| 03:37.02 | sylvanaar | do you use editpadpro? |
| 03:37.09 | sylvanaar | same company |
| 03:37.18 | |Yssaril| | grep = $0 though :P regex budy is $40 |
| 03:37.20 | Shirik | nah, just regexbuddy |
| 03:37.30 | Nargiddley | editpadpro owns |
| 03:37.35 | Shirik | yeah but regexbuddy is so much <3 for debugging regexes |
| 03:37.35 | Shirik | omg |
| 03:37.37 | sylvanaar | um, regexbuddy is worth every fracking penny |
| 03:37.47 | p3lim | |Yssaril|: Installed it |
| 03:37.52 | Shirik | here, let me take a screenshot of it in action |
| 03:37.58 | Shirik | oh wait |
| 03:38.00 | Shirik | I already have some |
| 03:38.04 | |Yssaril| | lol |
| 03:38.22 | sylvanaar | do you use my lua syntax and code folding stuff for epp Nargiddley |
| 03:38.24 | Shirik | this may be an older version, fyi |
| 03:38.54 | Nargiddley | sylvanaar, yeah. the folding stuff I heavily edited tho |
| 03:39.00 | Shirik | Regexbuddy explaining a regex: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/8a930132a4ad22a3aeed9ad834757f00.jpg |
| 03:39.06 | sylvanaar | yeah, i never finished it |
| 03:39.17 | Nargiddley | so it can fold on most control structures |
| 03:39.36 | Shirik | regexbuddy debugging a regex: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/a47ee295af4993a9aaae81f4e7c5eb58.jpg |
| 03:39.54 | sylvanaar | nothing can compete with regexbuddy - worth the money |
| 03:40.01 | Amarande | besides, using regexes unaided is a good way to go mad |
| 03:40.05 | Amarande | surely your sanity is worth $40 |
| 03:40.27 | NightHawkTheSane | sadly no, my sanity is pretty cheap |
| 03:40.30 | sylvanaar | it has built in grep, and code generation for like 10 languages |
| 03:40.36 | |Yssaril| | Shirik: thats hawt |
| 03:40.55 | Shirik | regexbuddy offering code samples: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/70963394cd346588070ba3b9e1e9e223.jpg |
| 03:41.04 | Shirik | or not, wtf is that |
| 03:41.10 | |Yssaril| | rofl |
| 03:41.12 | sylvanaar | it has a demo |
| 03:41.27 | Shirik | regexbuddy really offering code samples: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/e820bb93d9c5c930bd08ef668198bcca.jpg |
| 03:41.56 | |Yssaril| | Shirik: supports lua i assume? |
| 03:42.09 | Shirik | I don't believe so, mostly because Lua does not support regexes |
| 03:42.10 | Arrowmaster | why would it? |
| 03:42.16 | Tekkub | stupid metatable question time (yea I still don't totally understand them) |
| 03:42.22 | Shirik | ~lart Tekkub |
| 03:42.22 | purl | executes killall -HUP Tekkub |
| 03:42.31 | Tekkub | I got a proxy metatable (in LDB) |
| 03:42.51 | Tekkub | how can I make pairs() iter over the table it is proxying? |
| 03:42.57 | Lunessa | Ahh... and the db admin get the system running again. I can go home. |
| 03:42.58 | |Yssaril| | Tekkub: http://www.lua.org/pil/13.html |
| 03:43.03 | Shirik | oi |
| 03:43.07 | Shirik | that could be a little difficult |
| 03:43.33 | |Yssaril| | dosn't pairs do rawget? |
| 03:43.38 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 03:43.48 | Arrowmaster | or atleast something like it |
| 03:43.56 | Shirik | I believe you can define something like __next |
| 03:44.04 | Arrowmaster | really? |
| 03:44.08 | Tekkub | orly? |
| 03:44.41 | Tekkub | __next = function(t, k) return next(priv, k) end |
| 03:44.47 | Tekkub | that has potential |
| 03:44.52 | Shirik | lua> t = {1,2,3, iter = 2}; setmetatable(t, {__next = function() return iter+1; end}); for k,v in pairs(t) do print(k,v) end |
| 03:44.52 | lua_bot | Shirik: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, iter, 2 |
| 03:44.58 | Shirik | hm |
| 03:44.59 | Shirik | no |
| 03:45.00 | Shirik | sec |
| 03:45.27 | |Yssaril| | lua> t = {1,2,3, iter = 2}; setmetatable(t, {__next = function() return iter; end}); for k,v in pairs(t) do print(k,v) end |
| 03:45.28 | lua_bot | |Yssaril|: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, iter, 2 |
| 03:45.46 | sylvanaar | did they ever test that wau build from this am |
| 03:46.05 | Shirik | I think the best idea is to hook pairs, Tekkub |
| 03:46.08 | Shirik | to use that |
| 03:46.22 | Tekkub | I don't like that idea at all Shirik |
| 03:46.30 | Arrowmaster | i think the best idea is to provide your own iter |
| 03:46.32 | Lunessa | Ok... I'm out. |
| 03:46.34 | Shirik | That too |
| 03:46.35 | Tekkub | I'm thinking just a custom iterator in LDB |
| 03:46.41 | Shirik | but I was assuming Tekkub wanted to use pairs() |
| 03:46.42 | sylvanaar | coroutines |
| 03:46.51 | Tekkub | it doesn't HAVE to be pairs |
| 03:46.52 | Shirik | I would far more recommend using a custom iterator |
| 03:46.56 | Shirik | ok then use a custom iterator :D |
| 03:47.01 | Tekkub | just same general behaviour |
| 03:47.09 | Tekkub | righto |
| 03:47.29 | |Yssaril| | Tekkub: what do you use the proxy for? |
| 03:47.37 | Arrowmaster | remember to make it efficient and hard to read by having the itterator return next, t, nil instead of pairs(t) |
| 03:47.48 | Tekkub | detecting changes to trigger callbacks |
| 03:48.00 | Yssaril | ahh |
| 03:48.19 | Shirik | lol Arrowmaster |
| 03:48.29 | Tekkub | so the table you're writing/reading is always empty |
| 03:48.29 | Arrowmaster | what |
| 03:48.42 | Shirik | I'm going to go through all my code and change every pairs() call to "next, t, nil" |
| 03:48.43 | Dashkal | __next? |
| 03:48.53 | Tekkub | __next isn't real... |
| 03:48.57 | Tekkub | http://lua-users.org/wiki/GeneralizedPairsAndIpairs |
| 03:49.01 | Dashkal | damn, that... would have been handy |
| 03:49.07 | Shirik | Yeah I found that Tekkub |
| 03:49.08 | Arrowmaster | it wuld |
| 03:49.09 | Tekkub | it's just a hackjob with hooking next() |
| 03:49.33 | Duman | zomg |
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| 03:54.43 | Rabbitbunny | are trial account limited to level 20? |
| 03:54.50 | Dashkal | hmm, I may have to play with this some |
| 03:55.18 | Dashkal | local next, pairs, ipairs = metaawarenext, metaawarepairs, metaawareipairs could be nice in a few places |
| 03:56.11 | sylvanaar | couldnt you wrap each value separately, and treat them as objects. |
| 03:57.14 | Dashkal | eh, most likely I'd just use my own iterators as required if I wanted to iterate and be aware of the metatable at the same time |
| 03:57.20 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: wine: Unhandled page fault on write access to 0xdf216770 at address 0xf7d2d294 (thread 0009), starting debugger... |
| 03:57.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Never ding again |
| 03:57.32 | Dashkal | Only case I can see that happening is if I want to serialize something I've 'tinkered' with |
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| 03:58.39 | Thunder_Child | "your baby is brilliant, why she could already teach at florida state" |
| 04:02.06 | Arrowmaster | Tekkub: lib.domt is your proxy table right? |
| 04:02.33 | Tekkub | that's the proxy table's mt |
| 04:02.45 | Arrowmaster | er yeah |
| 04:02.59 | Arrowmaster | but every do is a proxy table right? |
| 04:03.43 | Tekkub | the DO itself is a proxy to another table,yes |
| 04:03.54 | Tekkub | via that mt |
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| 04:11.22 | Arrowmaster | Tekkub: well you can either create an iter func that you have people use and pass in the do as the arg, or the more fun method would be to set a __call on all your do's and tell people they can just 'for k,v in do() do ... end' |
| 04:12.01 | Tekkub | what if they want ipair instead of pairs? |
| 04:12.52 | Tekkub | __call is a nice idea, if I only had pairs to worry about |
| 04:13.05 | p3lim | im giving up this grep |
| 04:13.13 | Arrowmaster | 'for k,v in do(true) do ... end'? |
| 04:13.39 | p3lim | read through lots of guides but it wont work |
| 04:13.58 | Tekkub | hrm... |
| 04:14.04 | Tekkub | could work |
| 04:14.17 | Arrowmaster | Tekkub: the __call is a fun idea but yeah just making two iter funcs might be more natural for people to use |
| 04:14.41 | Tekkub | yea plus with iters I can accept a DO or DO name |
| 04:14.53 | Arrowmaster | true |
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| 04:16.51 | Arrowmaster | ok well then all i have to add is to remember its 'next, t, nil' and 'ipairs, t, 0' as your returns if you want to save that one function call each =D |
| 04:17.35 | Tekkub | pair returns next ... what does ipairs return? |
| 04:17.46 | Arrowmaster | ipairs apparently |
| 04:18.11 | Arrowmaster | er wait |
| 04:18.51 | Arrowmaster | lua> ipairs |
| 04:18.51 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: function: 0x629040 |
| 04:18.58 | Arrowmaster | lua> ipairs({}) |
| 04:18.59 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: function: 0x629010, table: 0x666a30, 0 |
| 04:19.56 | Tekkub | I know, I can cheat |
| 04:20.16 | Tekkub | local iter = ipairs(sometableIalreadyhave) |
| 04:20.41 | Arrowmaster | lua> local f = ipairs{}; for k,v in pairs(getfenv(0)) do if v == f then return k end end |
| 04:20.41 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: No output |
| 04:20.46 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
| 04:20.53 | Arrowmaster | its hidden |
| 04:21.24 | Arrowmaster | lua> local f = pairs{}; for k,v in pairs(getfenv(0)) do if v == f then return k end end |
| 04:21.25 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: No output |
| 04:21.39 | Arrowmaster | lua> pairs({}) |
| 04:21.39 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: function: 0x6290b0, table: 0x666a30, nil |
| 04:21.43 | Arrowmaster | lua> next |
| 04:21.44 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: function: 0x6295a0 |
| 04:21.46 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 04:21.59 | Tekkub | next isn't ipairs |
| 04:22.04 | Arrowmaster | i know |
| 04:22.08 | Arrowmaster | that was pairs |
| 04:22.16 | Tekkub | oh, heh |
| 04:22.24 | Drundia | pairs is supposed to return next,table,nil |
| 04:22.30 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 04:22.33 | Drundia | but it's different next |
| 04:23.01 | Thunder_Child | you people are boring |
| 04:23.05 | Thunder_Child | bring on the nudity |
| 04:23.15 | Arrowmaster | --> next |
| 04:23.16 | batbot | Arrowmaster: > function: 0x813f3c8 |
| 04:23.22 | Arrowmaster | --> pairs({}) |
| 04:23.22 | batbot | Arrowmaster: > function: 0x813f3c8, table: 0x81372a8, nil |
| 04:24.03 | Arrowmaster | --> local f = pairs{}; for k,v in pairs(getfenv(0)) do if v == f then return k end end |
| 04:24.03 | batbot | Arrowmaster: > next |
| 04:24.09 | Arrowmaster | --> local f = ipairs{}; for k,v in pairs(getfenv(0)) do if v == f then return k end end |
| 04:24.29 | Drundia | batbot has them the same |
| 04:24.43 | Drundia | (next from pairs, and real next) |
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| 04:24.55 | Drundia | wow has them different, just like lua_bot |
| 04:25.02 | Arrowmaster | yeah did batrick overwrite pairs? |
| 04:25.10 | Tekkub | okey my idea worked :) |
| 04:25.21 | Tekkub | local ipairs_iter = ipairs(attributestorage) |
| 04:25.22 | Tekkub | return ipairs_iter, attributestorage[dataobj], 0 |
| 04:26.45 | Arrowmaster | going to do the same with pairs and next? or just use next? |
| 04:26.59 | Tekkub | JUST USING NEXT THERE |
| 04:27.01 | Tekkub | GAH |
| 04:27.15 | Tekkub | I wrote next first :) |
| 04:27.28 | Arrowmaster | global next or upvalued next? |
| 04:27.29 | Tekkub | *pairs |
| 04:27.39 | Tekkub | global |
| 04:27.52 | Tekkub | think I should save a local instead? |
| 04:28.33 | Drundia | is next returned by pairs better than standard next? |
| 04:28.42 | Arrowmaster | maybe, but thats probably just because i hate the idea of people fucking with global functions and changing expected behavior of my stuff |
| 04:28.46 | Tekkub | it's likely the same... |
| 04:29.00 | Tekkub | lua> print(next, pairs{}) |
| 04:29.00 | lua_bot | Tekkub: function: 0x6295a0, function: 0x6290b0, table: 0x666a30, nil |
| 04:29.11 | Tekkub | duuuuuuuuuuude |
| 04:29.40 | Drundia | as you can see in lua_bot and wow they are at the very least different closures |
| 04:29.58 | Tekkub | same in game, not the same... guess I'll go with a stolen local for consistancy's sake |
| 04:30.26 | Arrowmaster | thats the spirit |
| 04:30.40 | Arrowmaster | making small code harder to read for minor preformance gains and fun |
| 04:30.41 | Tekkub | it's not stealing if you don't get taint |
| 04:31.27 | Tekkub | well this is iters we're taking about, they're always a minor brainfuck at first no matter what |
| 04:32.10 | Tekkub | kd3, I don't see the problem, though I'm certainly not motivated by that |
| 04:32.45 | Tekkub | I spent most of my AP English class doing a rubic's cube over and over just to piss off the "smart jock" in the class |
| 04:33.08 | Tekkub | he thought the longer he spent shuffling it the more random he could make it |
| 04:33.16 | Yssaril | lol |
| 04:34.01 | p3lim | wtb proper search tools for windows that noobs like me can use |
| 04:34.02 | Drundia | he's right. after one shuffle it's not really random at all |
| 04:34.38 | Kalroth | p3lim: Search tools? |
| 04:34.44 | p3lim | yeah |
| 04:35.07 | p3lim | I want/need to search for a line of text inside of alot of lua files (default UI files) |
| 04:35.17 | Kalroth | Total Commander |
| 04:35.18 | p3lim | windows search is utter crap and doesnt want to open those kinda files |
| 04:35.24 | Tekkub | I just use grep on the extremely rare occation I need to search inside files |
| 04:35.46 | Kalroth | You've been screwing yourself if you haven't discovered Total Commander yet |
| 04:35.49 | p3lim | Tekkub: Ive just spent over an hour trying to get grep to work, with no success |
| 04:35.51 | Tekkub | I *never* have to search for files... I totally disable indexing :) |
| 04:36.06 | Kalroth | Tekkub: So do I |
| 04:36.37 | Tekkub | p3lim, well then it sounds like you need some quality time in linux first before you come back to winders |
| 04:37.02 | Kalroth | TC got a super search utility and an even better syncronize/compare utility |
| 04:37.04 | p3lim | Tekkub: I cant swap over to linux at this moment |
| 04:37.08 | Kalroth | fully supports ftp too |
| 04:37.17 | p3lim | Barely used any *nix os before |
| 04:37.20 | Tekkub | $200 laptop time! |
| 04:37.34 | p3lim | gief $200, im broke :F |
| 04:37.54 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 04:37.56 | Shirik | C:/Users/mpdelbuono/Documents/Code/sec09/serlib/SercomPacket.cpp:18: `NULL' undeclared (first use this function) |
| 04:38.17 | p3lim | cute username |
| 04:38.29 | Kalroth | Shirik: You have to declare null being null, duh! |
| 04:39.07 | p3lim | Kalroth: Shareware file manager? |
| 04:39.12 | Kalroth | yes |
| 04:39.23 | Kalroth | http://www.ghisler.com/ |
| 04:39.25 | p3lim | oh god... |
| 04:39.29 | Shirik | p3lim: Just my name :P |
| 04:39.40 | Kalroth | It's well worth the purchase once you've learned to use it |
| 04:39.42 | p3lim | Shirik: i did say it was cute, didnt I ?:) |
| 04:39.50 | Shirik | you're calling me cute? >< |
| 04:39.53 | Kalroth | We've bought licenses for all the computers at work |
| 04:40.49 | p3lim | Tekkub: I just spent like 3-4 weeks learning svn |
| 04:41.15 | p3lim | that was using a well documented client with interface :p |
| 04:41.18 | Tekkub | it took you that long? |
| 04:41.22 | p3lim | Yeah |
| 04:41.33 | p3lim | I know jack shit when it comes to stuff like that |
| 04:41.34 | Tekkub | no linux for you, buy a mac |
| 04:41.38 | Kalroth | lol |
| 04:41.41 | p3lim | lol |
| 04:41.56 | Shirik | ~wtf svn |
| 04:42.01 | p3lim | I did try using macs... Too.. how do you put this... child-friendly |
| 04:42.02 | Shirik | Everything right there! |
| 04:42.04 | Shirik | man ftw |
| 04:42.06 | batrick | Arrowmaster: I had to change pairs to return my version of next :P |
| 04:42.07 | Shirik | ~man svn |
| 04:42.08 | purl | No manual entry for svn |
| 04:42.11 | Shirik | ... |
| 04:42.25 | Kalroth | ~man man |
| 04:42.26 | purl | No manual entry for man |
| 04:42.30 | Kalroth | :( |
| 04:43.07 | Shirik | ~literal man |
| 04:43.08 | purl | "man" is "<reply> Tem and Tain are the man." |
| 04:43.11 | p3lim | What would be a good starter *nix for me? :) |
| 04:43.16 | Kalroth | Ubuntu |
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| 04:43.46 | Shirik | ~literal cmd: man (.*?) |
| 04:43.47 | purl | "cmd: man (.*?)" is "($foo): <reply> No manual entry for $foo" |
| 04:43.49 | Shirik | ..... |
| 04:43.51 | p3lim | Funny, I actually have that one on my network server :F |
| 04:46.07 | p3lim | Whats the name of those new baby computers from asus? |
| 04:46.14 | p3lim | Atleast I think it was asus |
| 04:46.33 | Kalroth | EEEPC? |
| 04:46.42 | Kalroth | http://eeepc.asus.com/global/ |
| 04:46.42 | sylvanaar | it was, the $100 ones |
| 04:53.11 | Shirik | hmmmm |
| 04:53.13 | Shirik | this probably isnt' good |
| 04:53.24 | Shirik | Error: Commit failed (details follow): |
| 04:53.24 | Shirik | Error: 'pre-commit' hook failed with error output: |
| 04:53.24 | Shirik | Error: svnlook: error while loading shared libraries: libexpat.so.0: cannot open |
| 04:53.25 | Shirik | Error: shared object file: No such file or directory |
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| 04:56.53 | Shirik | <3 revdep-rebuild |
| 04:58.42 | p3lim | whats the recommended computer specs for ubuntu |
| 04:58.56 | p3lim | (not the ones listed but a personal recommend) |
| 04:59.58 | Shirik | oh this is awesome! |
| 05:00.00 | Rabbitbunny | I'm pushing a 773mhz/320mb slimline and a 450mhz/256mb tower. It doesn't take much. |
| 05:00.02 | Shirik | !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "=sys-devel/gettext-0.16.1" have been masked. |
| 05:00.02 | Shirik | !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: |
| 05:00.02 | Shirik | - sys-devel/gettext-0.16.1 (masked by: ) |
| 05:00.06 | Shirik | masked by: nothing.... |
| 05:00.09 | Shirik | that's brilliant |
| 05:00.12 | Thunder_Child | can anyone confirm that toughness and bladed armor do not stack? |
| 05:00.55 | Arrowmaster | p3lim: entirely depends on what you run |
| 05:04.21 | p3lim | Arrowmaster: im not gonna run any games or anything |
| 05:04.29 | p3lim | gonna use it to learn *nix |
| 05:04.57 | kd3 | then a pentium 1 with 128MB of ram should be enough |
| 05:05.18 | p3lim | if it doesnt require much I might have a 850mhz/512mb in some box out in the shred |
| 05:05.34 | Rabbitbunny | That'll run xubuntu nicely. |
| 05:05.39 | p3lim | neat :) |
| 05:05.46 | p3lim | anyways, getting late (early) |
| 05:05.47 | p3lim | gnite |
| 05:06.13 | Rabbitbunny | I'm only doing xterm/screen/irssi, ff3, claws, xcalc this box is ~halfway to maxxed out. |
| 05:08.03 | Rabbitbunny | ofc, switching between my xterm and ff3 takes a full four seconds... |
| 05:09.07 | Thunder_Child | $20 headphones if anyone needs http://www.woot.com/ |
| 05:10.01 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: ping |
| 05:10.34 | Thunder_Child | lol, my DK is still bound to the top of ebbon hold even though everything moved downstairs |
| 05:10.59 | Thunder_Child | and it seems i can fall off.... |
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| 05:11.41 | Thunder_Child | and now i am back in the battle for lights hope.... |
| 05:13.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: pong |
| 05:13.10 | Shirik | halp |
| 05:13.15 | ScytheBlade1 | NOU |
| 05:13.17 | Shirik | what does it mean when a package says (masked by: ) |
| 05:13.22 | Shirik | as in, it doesn't say anything |
| 05:13.24 | Shirik | except that |
| 05:13.31 | ScytheBlade1 | That you've got a bug somewhere |
| 05:13.35 | Shirik | http://gentoo.pastey.net/92873 |
| 05:13.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Try updating portage/your local cache |
| 05:13.59 | Shirik | hm, ok |
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| 05:42.52 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: Friend of mine was able to duplicate the problem, seems like a bug in portage. But emerge =sys-devel/gettext-0.17 fixed it so |
| 05:42.56 | Shirik | I'm not quite sure what was going on |
| 05:48.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: called it ;) |
| 05:48.36 | ScytheBlade1 | but yeah, good to know |
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| 06:06.43 | Thunder_Child | wtb good tv show to watch |
| 06:07.58 | Thunder_Child | that i have not seen |
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| 06:43.45 | Thunder_Child | ~burp |
| 06:43.46 | purl | ACTION burps loudly |
| 06:49.52 | |stefan|_ | heh i get some strange behaviour when setting arenaregistrarframe moveable |
| 06:49.59 | |stefan|_ | it only moves the frame and not the content. |
| 06:50.18 | Thunder_Child | In fact, when we asked about World of Warcraft's unshakable hold on the massively multiplayer biz, game director Jeffrey Kaplan was humble. |
| 06:50.18 | Thunder_Child | "I don't believe that WoW is untouchable," he said. "I completely believe that a game could come out and be more successful than WoW. I'm hoping that we're working on it right now." |
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| 06:50.53 | Tenchworks | but |
| 06:50.58 | Tenchworks | I like wow |
| 06:51.07 | Tenchworks | I don't want WoW to die.... |
| 06:51.10 | Tenchworks | :( |
| 06:51.29 | |stefan|_ | talking about diablo3 ? ;) |
| 06:51.30 | End | if there's something better, does it matter? |
| 06:51.39 | Tenchworks | hehe I can already see a few of my guildies responding like that to what you just quoted |
| 06:51.44 | Thunder_Child | http://kotaku.com/5031742/blizzards-next-game-could-be-more-successful-than-wow |
| 06:51.49 | Zeksie | meh... Cooldown objects need SetDrawEdge/GetDrawEdge functions.. can only set that option in xml :| |
| 06:52.22 | Tenchworks | so I got bored of farming |
| 06:52.45 | Tenchworks | and found myself installing something I forgot i bought |
| 06:53.16 | Thunder_Child | SC2 i think will get bigger than wow tbh |
| 06:53.41 | |stefan|_ | sc2 won't be a online game in that sense ? |
| 06:54.06 | Thunder_Child | http://www.filehurricane.com/photos/529200843439PM_Hope.jpg |
| 06:54.07 | Tenchworks | started cleaning my desk and found my copy of collectors copy of unreal 3 with the UT anthology, i installed UT3 made sure it worked and then had a raging need to play the original |
| 06:54.24 | Thunder_Child | |stefan|, it doesnt say that, it just says wider reach tna wow currently has |
| 06:54.32 | Thunder_Child | then* |
| 06:56.54 | |stefan|_ | hmm |
| 06:58.26 | Cairenn|afk | abug: ping? |
| 07:00.55 | Elkano | iirc besides WotLK, SC2 and D3 Blizzard is also developing another yet unannounced MMORPG |
| 07:01.08 | Elkano | so that's most likely what he ment |
| 07:02.22 | Thunder_Child | Elkano, only thing i heard about that was that they were looking for mobile browser based mmo coders |
| 07:02.29 | Thunder_Child | or something along those lines |
| 07:04.18 | Codayus | I did hear that they were hiring for an as yet unannounced MMO. It didn't say anything about mobile at the time... |
| 07:05.17 | Thunder_Child | as i read again, ya |
| 07:05.19 | Codayus | In fact, I think they still are. |
| 07:05.21 | Codayus | Job Update 06/16/08 |
| 07:05.21 | Codayus | New Position . Senior Software Engineer, Tools - Next-Gen MMO |
| 07:05.22 | Codayus | Blizzard Entertainment is currently seeking a highly experienced senior software engineer to work on an exciting project for our next-generation MMO. |
| 07:05.35 | Thunder_Child | ob Update 07/10/08 |
| 07:05.35 | Thunder_Child | New Position - Lead Software Engineer Unannounced Title |
| 07:08.48 | Mery | even if they are woring on one, it will be coming soon⢠- probably after d3 which would suprise me if it was released in 2009 |
| 07:09.57 | gramg | How do I get an addon moved from the beta version addons category? |
| 07:10.09 | Mery | msg cairenn |
| 07:10.13 | gramg | kk |
| 07:10.22 | Cairenn|afk | hi |
| 07:10.25 | gramg | thx |
| 07:10.35 | Cairenn|afk | gramg: link to your mod, please? |
| 07:10.51 | gramg | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9385-NazScrooge.html |
| 07:10.55 | gramg | your nick lies hehe |
| 07:11.02 | Cairenn|afk | yup |
| 07:11.15 | Cairenn|afk | where would you like it moved to |
| 07:11.27 | Cairenn|afk | name of cat |
| 07:11.42 | End | Mittens |
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| 07:11.47 | Cairenn|afk | lol |
| 07:11.48 | End | Fluffy? |
| 07:11.50 | gramg | guess that would have been good to know first eh? sec |
| 07:11.58 | Cairenn|afk | gramg: heh |
| 07:13.16 | gramg | Ace: Inventory/Item Enhancement (incl. bags/bank) works . . . or Misc category |
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| 07:13.41 | Cairenn|afk | moved |
| 07:14.01 | gramg | ths Cairenn |
| 07:14.03 | gramg | *thx |
| 07:14.08 | abug | poking me? |
| 07:14.08 | Cairenn|afk | you're welcome :) |
| 07:14.12 | Cairenn|afk | abug: that I am |
| 07:14.19 | Cairenn|afk | Ienen == you? |
| 07:14.22 | abug | yes |
| 07:14.27 | Cairenn|afk | just confirming |
| 07:14.43 | Cairenn|afk | I know, I've probably asked before, but couldn't recall |
| 07:14.54 | abug | I wouldn't expect you to remember |
| 07:15.02 | abug | you have a ton of users |
| 07:15.10 | Xinhuan | is that addon for ppl who can't control their spending? |
| 07:15.11 | Xinhuan | hehe |
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| 07:15.18 | gramg | pretty much hehe |
| 07:15.23 | Cairenn|afk | I try, but it does get a little difficult after a while |
| 07:15.33 | gramg | tired of saying "quit spending money and you can afford your own darn mount" |
| 07:15.52 | Cairenn|afk | especially when you multiply it by 6 sites |
| 07:15.52 | Xinhuan | the most effective way i've found |
| 07:15.58 | Xinhuan | is to mail most of your gold to an alt |
| 07:16.01 | Xinhuan | so you always feel poor on your main |
| 07:16.03 | abug | heh true |
| 07:16.33 | Xinhuan | "shit, 20g repair! i've only got 80g!" |
| 07:16.37 | gramg | agreed, what I do, this is mainly for noob guildies who can't keep thier hands away from the AH . . .and a good way to say "go to hell" w/o being a dick |
| 07:16.50 | End | How much gold do you have Xinhuan? |
| 07:16.56 | |stefan|_ | is it psosible to modify UIPanelWindow["name"]["pushable"] if you want the windows not to be pushed around when opening more windows at once ? |
| 07:17.00 | Xinhuan | 120k |
| 07:17.07 | End | And you were saying? |
| 07:17.10 | Xinhuan | |stefan|, yes and no |
| 07:17.20 | |stefan|_ | Xinhuan: define =) |
| 07:17.23 | Xinhuan | it depends on whether that window has ever been opened before |
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| 07:17.42 | |stefan|_ | ah yea well i'm forceopening and closing the windows at init anyway |
| 07:17.47 | End | although |
| 07:17.48 | Xinhuan | UIPanelWindow[] contains a list of attributes for blizzard frames, such as "name" |
| 07:18.03 | End | last time I think I saw how much money Xinhuan had...it was like 20k less than it is now |
| 07:18.21 | Xinhuan | when you open a frame "name", the ShowUIPanel() function checks to see if UI-layout-defined attribute is set or not |
| 07:18.25 | abug | that's kinda neat that the svn make zip doesn't require you to add a screenshot |
| 07:18.39 | Xinhuan | if it isn't, it copies everything in UIPanelWindow["name"] over to the frame attributes |
| 07:18.53 | Xinhuan | then sets UI-layout-enabled and UI-layout-defined both to true |
| 07:19.12 | Cairenn|afk | abug: :) |
| 07:19.15 | Xinhuan | thereafter you can disable it by setting UI-layout-enabled to false |
| 07:19.36 | Xinhuan | but UI-layout-defined must remain true, or the UI just recopies the data from the UIPanelWindow[] table |
| 07:19.36 | |stefan|_ | ah yea that's the method i'm using now i guess. |
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| 07:19.47 | Xinhuan | now if the window hasn't ever been opened before |
| 07:19.51 | Xinhuan | then nothing has been copied |
| 07:20.01 | Xinhuan | if so, then modifying UIPanelWindow[] directly would work |
| 07:20.11 | |stefan|_ | nice |
| 07:20.16 | Xinhuan | since when it later copies, it copies the modified stuff |
| 07:20.17 | |stefan|_ | that would save me some code actually |
| 07:20.34 | |stefan|_ | i'll have a look at it when i get back. need to give gf a ride to work =) |
| 07:20.38 | |stefan|_ | thanks for explaining =) |
| 07:20.39 | Xinhuan | thing is, you won't know if the window has been ever opened before |
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| 07:20.51 | Xinhuan | could have been opened/closed by another addon for all u know |
| 07:20.51 | |stefan|_ | i will know since i force open it. |
| 07:21.03 | Xinhuan | so always check the UI-layout-defined attribute |
| 07:21.08 | |stefan|_ | ok |
| 07:21.18 | |stefan|_ | brb otherwise my gf will get mad ;) |
| 07:21.26 | Xinhuan | also this might change in wotlk |
| 07:21.31 | Xinhuan | so don't put your hopes up ;p |
| 07:21.37 | |stefan|_ | bah =) |
| 07:21.56 | Xinhuan | they rewrote a lot of the secure stuff, and frame positioning might be affected |
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| 07:37.11 | Orionshock | any news on wowi beta keys? |
| 07:38.13 | batrick | dont think so |
| 07:38.22 | Orionshock | :( |
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| 07:39.23 | Cairenn|afk | don't expect them before tomorrow (Friday) at the absolute earliest |
| 07:39.45 | Orionshock | hehe, but.. it is friday :D |
| 07:39.59 | amro | ^ |
| 07:40.12 | Orionshock | granted it's 40 after midnight |
| 07:40.14 | Orionshock | lol |
| 07:40.21 | amro | it's 40 after 8am :P |
| 07:40.23 | End | regular business hours might help you |
| 07:40.23 | Cairenn|afk | and it's 5 hrs until the main blizz offices open for the day |
| 07:40.37 | Orionshock | this is true... |
| 07:43.18 | Rabbitbunny | what bums... who opens at 8? |
| 07:43.41 | zenzio | yay for development servers that can't be upgraded because of custom patches, and that keep running out of space because your harddisk is from 2000 or something |
| 07:43.44 | Cairenn|afk | 5 hrs plus where I am = 9am |
| 07:44.04 | Rabbitbunny | It's 2:40am CST. |
| 07:44.45 | Rabbitbunny | Where is Home Office? |
| 07:45.27 | Cairenn|afk | Iriving CA |
| 07:46.05 | MentalPower | Irvine* |
| 07:46.34 | Cairenn|afk | errr, yeah, that |
| 07:46.52 | MentalPower | friggin ISP hasn't fixed the DNS vulnerability yet >:( |
| 07:47.02 | MentalPower | time to change to OpenDNS |
| 07:47.10 | zenzio | are people exploiting it? |
| 07:47.36 | MentalPower | haven't read any reports yet, but its only a matter of time now |
| 07:47.50 | Orionshock | eww, I hope that they don't use AT&T Local service for their ISP, that would be sad... |
| 07:48.15 | MentalPower | Blizz's ISP is indeed AT&T |
| 07:48.56 | Orionshock | MentalPower: yes, but it's AT&T's Teir1 Service, not their T3 service thank god |
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| 07:49.25 | MentalPower | :) |
| 07:49.56 | Orionshock | att local service in irvine has never worked properly... >.> |
| 07:52.10 | MentalPower | gnight all |
| 07:52.20 | Cairenn|afk | night MentalPower|ZZzz, sweet dreams |
| 07:52.23 | |stefan|_ | anyone got any clue on how to move the arenaregistrarframe with it's contents ? |
| 07:52.32 | |stefan|_ | it's separating itself to it's contents atm. |
| 07:53.33 | Orionshock | ok.. any details on what "ANCHOR_CURSOR" does? for tooltip anchoring? |
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| 08:20.20 | Tekkub | o/~ duh duh dumber than the duh duh dirt on the ground o/~ |
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| 08:31.56 | cladhaire | Orionshock: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/GameTooltip/SetOwner |
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| 08:35.13 | Orionshock | ... that's what i thought... |
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| 08:36.02 | Orionshock | i've got to be doing something else weird to the frame that's making it not show... |
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| 09:27.28 | Rabbitbunny | heh, Have to remember to make tictactoe when I go to learn about the addon channel. |
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| 09:48.54 | Orionshock | good point - how does one get access to the blizzard games? special toc file? |
| 09:55.25 | cladhaire | Orionshock: you just look in the FrameXMl? |
| 09:55.52 | Orionshock | no, i've known about them for a while, figured i'd ask.. :D |
| 09:56.07 | cladhaire | I'm just saying, that's how you get access to them :P |
| 09:56.09 | cladhaire | wow |
| 09:56.16 | cladhaire | speed on flight paths is so damn irregular |
| 09:56.50 | Rabbitbunny | if you're making a speddometer... |
| 09:57.41 | |stefan|_ | is there a way to attach a frame to another frame so if i move it they move together ? |
| 09:57.51 | cladhaire | yep, they're called anchors. |
| 09:58.17 | |stefan|_ | relatievto ? |
| 09:58.23 | cladhaire | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Region/SetPoint |
| 09:58.30 | cladhaire | that includes some example code. |
| 09:58.35 | zenzio | this is well covered both on that site and the wiki |
| 09:58.41 | cladhaire | indeed |
| 09:59.48 | Arrowmaster | and probably in this too |
| 09:59.52 | Arrowmaster | ~wowprogramming |
| 09:59.52 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons (http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob) a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 09:59.58 | cladhaire | yep, quite extensively |
| 10:00.21 | cladhaire | anyoen know of a way to travel faster than 45 yards/second in WoW? |
| 10:01.00 | zenzio | including actually travelling a full 45 yards, or just at that speed? |
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| 10:01.36 | cladhaire | huh? |
| 10:01.52 | cladhaire | the only speed we can measure is distance on a x/y axis.. so you'd actually have to move more than 45 yards in a second |
| 10:02.16 | zenzio | I'm guessing the warrior charges could be considered very fast speed, but they're limited in range well below 45 yards |
| 10:02.26 | cladhaire | aye |
| 10:02.40 | cladhaire | even blink has limits. |
| 10:03.11 | krka | blink is instantious, so you could say it's infinitely fast speed for 0 seconds |
| 10:03.28 | |stefan|_ | this is annoying. i'm trying to make ArenaRegistrarGreetingFrame follow ArenaRegistrarFrame when moved. |
| 10:03.31 | Rabbitbunny | get some buddies on the opposite faction... mount + charge... |
| 10:03.37 | krka | cladhaire: who are you talking to btw? |
| 10:03.41 | |stefan|_ | i either is doing something wrong or it's not possible. |
| 10:03.47 | cladhaire | What do you mean? |
| 10:03.53 | cladhaire | I was responding to zenzio? |
| 10:04.26 | krka | ok |
| 10:05.01 | krka | anyway, you could probably move faster than 45 y/s on a taxi |
| 10:05.11 | krka | especially when it's diving |
| 10:05.15 | cladhaire | yeah that's what I'm testing now |
| 10:05.23 | cladhaire | well diving actually makes the mount move slower :P |
| 10:05.30 | Nargiddley | how fast is the darkmoon cannon ? |
| 10:05.38 | krka | how fast is the train between IF and SW? |
| 10:05.39 | cladhaire | it's fastest when its level |
| 10:05.48 | cladhaire | that's in an instance, we can't measure it imo |
| 10:05.54 | krka | cladhaire: only if you measure the x/y-plane |
| 10:06.02 | cladhaire | krka: well, we don't have a z plane, so we can't measure it |
| 10:06.04 | krka | the diving probably has a larger z-vector |
| 10:06.07 | cladhaire | yes |
| 10:06.09 | cladhaire | but we don't have that :P |
| 10:06.14 | cladhaire | so I have to conveniently ignore it |
| 10:06.48 | cladhaire | thats why i like this addon, its nothing that hasn't been done before, i just like the way its displayed :P |
| 10:06.53 | krka | i'm sure some mobs knockback effect could be fast too |
| 10:07.02 | krka | what addon? |
| 10:07.11 | cladhaire | a Speedometer/Odometer |
| 10:07.32 | cladhaire | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/08983d82afd44ed50b6c6c7b7084c810.png |
| 10:07.41 | zenzio | most knockbacks seem somewhat "slow" compared to the taxi |
| 10:07.45 | krka | i think AT was first to have a proper speedometer of yards/s :P |
| 10:08.06 | cladhaire | aye, this isn't novel at all |
| 10:08.08 | cladhaire | i just think its cute :P |
| 10:08.12 | krka | looks pretty |
| 10:08.13 | cladhaire | the dials roll like you'd expect :P |
| 10:08.27 | krka | you're wondering what you need to set the max to? |
| 10:08.32 | cladhaire | basically |
| 10:08.34 | cladhaire | but i like it being at 45 |
| 10:08.37 | cladhaire | when it goes over |
| 10:08.41 | cladhaire | the needle goes nuts :P |
| 10:08.44 | krka | I suggest 88 mph |
| 10:08.45 | Rabbitbunny | digital guage option? |
| 10:09.06 | cladhaire | Rabbitbunny: there are tons of addons that already do that |
| 10:09.55 | Rabbitbunny | faux LED style? ala early 90's lincoln mark 8? |
| 10:10.08 | cladhaire | neh :P |
| 10:10.15 | cladhaire | its all about the analog! |
| 10:10.22 | Rabbitbunny | lol |
| 10:10.43 | krka | 88 mph = 43.0222222 yards per second |
| 10:10.43 | cladhaire | the calculations take nothing, there's 90,000 ways to do em |
| 10:10.48 | krka | that's fairly close then! |
| 10:10.52 | cladhaire | hahah |
| 10:10.54 | cladhaire | that's so win! |
| 10:11.14 | krka | use 43 as a limit! |
| 10:11.50 | krka | and popup a TimeTravel warning when you reach it |
| 10:11.55 | Rabbitbunny | lol |
| 10:12.18 | cladhaire | now i need a flux capaciter graphic |
| 10:12.18 | krka | better yet, take over the full screen with a screenshot from BTTF |
| 10:12.27 | cladhaire | capacitor |
| 10:12.34 | krka | and doc brown yelling in the background |
| 10:12.40 | cladhaire | ooh |
| 10:12.48 | cladhaire | i need mp to show me how to make a movie in wow |
| 10:12.48 | cladhaire | win! |
| 10:14.21 | cladhaire | I love playing the auction house during the week |
| 10:14.25 | cladhaire | just sold my ore/cloth |
| 10:14.26 | cladhaire | 200g |
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| 10:52.25 | |stefan|_ | sigh. arenaregistrarframe doesn't make sense. |
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| 12:03.11 | hipjipp_ | anyone awake in here? :< |
| 12:03.21 | Rabbitbunny | Yes. And I am evil. |
| 12:03.22 | batrick | hi |
| 12:03.41 | cbreak | awake. |
| 12:04.18 | Rabbitbunny | I wasn't thinking about it, but a monent ago whilst getting the FuBar button for my addon to work I added gold/hour. |
| 12:04.38 | Rabbitbunny | I have just addicted a million people to farming. |
| 12:05.25 | cbreak | LichKing has gold farming statistics in the default UI |
| 12:05.34 | cbreak | in the same pannel it has Achievements |
| 12:05.40 | Rabbitbunny | What?!?! |
| 12:06.02 | cbreak | I think I saw something like that. |
| 12:06.28 | cbreak | it also has longest fall tracking, and some other stuff |
| 12:07.26 | Rabbitbunny | do you remember where you saw it? anything with WoW and gold in the same search in't useful. |
| 12:07.44 | cbreak | let me check |
| 12:08.18 | cbreak | I can make you a screenshot if you want |
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| 12:08.33 | Rabbitbunny | Yes, Please. |
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| 12:09.21 | Rabbitbunny | Hopefully it has the same problem MoneyFu does. Absence of inventory/bag tracking. |
| 12:09.43 | cbreak | it tracks income and stuff |
| 12:09.45 | Rabbitbunny | I'm hitting AucAdvanced.GetMarketPrice(). |
| 12:10.40 | Rabbitbunny | API.Util and all, but anyway, I got very tired of trackers that only did GetMoney(). |
| 12:11.12 | Rabbitbunny | I go out to get Silk, I wanna track the value of Silk i'm getting. |
| 12:11.24 | cbreak | http://img355.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wealthlc5.jpg |
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| 12:12.37 | Rabbitbunny | Oh good, THat's not what mine does. |
| 12:13.26 | Rabbitbunny | That's more like AuditorFu, Very cool. |
| 12:13.55 | Rabbitbunny | Lemme kill some stuff and get a ss |
| 12:19.53 | Rabbitbunny | http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee146/Rabbitbunnyrndtan/WoWScrnShot_080108_071449.jpg |
| 12:20.28 | Rabbitbunny | ^bad link |
| 12:20.34 | Rabbitbunny | http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee146/Rabbitbunnyrandtan/WoWScrnShot_080108_071449.jpg |
| 12:21.28 | Rabbitbunny | "11s 12.../hour" <-- addictive |
| 12:21.59 | cbreak | so it's a drop/drop value tracker? |
| 12:22.05 | Rabbitbunny | http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee146/Rabbitbunnyrandtan/WoWScrnShot_080108_071522.jpg |
| 12:22.28 | Rabbitbunny | Yes. It loops your bags/inventory and GetMoney(). |
| 12:22.52 | Rabbitbunny | it also tracks time/gold per zone |
| 12:23.22 | Rabbitbunny | Deadmines is worth something like 45g/h to a 53fury war |
| 12:23.47 | cbreak | daily quests are worth about 44 gold for four quests. |
| 12:24.08 | cbreak | a level 53 better spends his time leveling than farming I think :) |
| 12:24.50 | Rabbitbunny | I hate levelling... But once I convince enough people to use this, They'll go levell with it turned on and tell me the best gold+xp/hr places. |
| 12:25.13 | cbreak | like, quests? :) |
| 12:25.23 | Rabbitbunny | no, i hate those too... |
| 12:25.32 | cbreak | ... |
| 12:27.56 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: i have svn://svn.wowinterface.com/LootTracker-171, and a svn dump file, what i do with svn dump file? |
| 12:28.03 | JoshBorke | it's 3.3M |
| 12:28.19 | cladhaire | gzipped? |
| 12:28.25 | cladhaire | just make it available for me somewhere. |
| 12:28.35 | JoshBorke | 157K tbz2 |
| 12:28.43 | JoshBorke | may i just email it? |
| 12:29.05 | cladhaire | that's not very convenient for me. |
| 12:29.13 | JoshBorke | ok, i put somewhere you can wget then |
| 12:29.20 | cladhaire | tbhanks. |
| 12:31.19 | JoshBorke | http://joshborke.is-a-geek.org/j/lt.svn.tar.bz2 |
| 12:32.43 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: thanks :-) |
| 12:36.19 | cladhaire | i'll look in a few |
| 12:36.55 | JoshBorke | np, appreciate the help |
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| 12:46.34 | batrick | zzz |
| 12:59.43 | cladhaire | ding 60 |
| 12:59.58 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: grats |
| 13:00.02 | JoshBorke | as a dk? |
| 13:00.12 | cladhaire | nah |
| 13:00.13 | cladhaire | i was 68 on my dk |
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| 13:00.19 | JoshBorke | ... |
| 13:00.24 | cladhaire | and then rolled new to see the starter quests when they deleted that one |
| 13:00.32 | cladhaire | but i won't be leveling to 68 agfain |
| 13:00.37 | JoshBorke | ah, ok |
| 13:00.48 | cladhaire | this is my drood eu |
| 13:00.59 | cladhaire | which i stopped to level my dk |
| 13:01.00 | JoshBorke | so, does anyone know if you have to buy TBC to get WotLK? |
| 13:01.28 | cladhaire | yes you do |
| 13:01.30 | cladhaire | the box says so |
| 13:01.35 | JoshBorke | ok |
| 13:03.09 | Elkano | well, makes sense... how to become 80 if you can't become 70? ^^ |
| 13:03.54 | JoshBorke | maybe you can go past 70 just can't go to outlands? |
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| 13:04.14 | Rabbitbunny | how would you level? |
| 13:04.25 | cladhaire | JB what spec shoudl I use for 60-70 |
| 13:04.27 | JoshBorke | run old world stuff lots and lots of times |
| 13:04.32 | cbreak | it's probably hard after 65 when mobs stop giving xp :) |
| 13:04.34 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: as a drood? i hate droods |
| 13:05.11 | JoshBorke | but obviously the answer is ferlol |
| 13:05.11 | cladhaire | who was my drood friend |
| 13:05.18 | cladhaire | well duh ferlol |
| 13:05.48 | cladhaire | i love this stupid little mod |
| 13:05.54 | JoshBorke | odometer? |
| 13:05.56 | cladhaire | its fun seeing how much flight path speed varies |
| 13:05.56 | cladhaire | yeah |
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| 13:05.57 | cladhaire | heh |
| 13:06.03 | cladhaire | i'm easily amused. |
| 13:06.12 | JoshBorke | you should have it loop around to negative numbers |
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| 13:06.29 | JoshBorke | though, that wouldn't really be realistic :-/ |
| 13:06.39 | cladhaire | it loops in on itself |
| 13:06.50 | cladhaire | if you travel more than 9999999 yards, it goes back to 0 |
| 13:06.51 | hipjipp | JoshBorke: since when is wow realistic? :P |
| 13:07.20 | cladhaire | i need to level mining from 240 -> 300 |
| 13:07.22 | cladhaire | gief plevel guide |
| 13:08.20 | hipjipp | cladhaire: there's some good pleveling guides on the us wow forums for all proffessions |
| 13:08.29 | cladhaire | http://www.blizzardguides.com/wow_mining_guide.html :P |
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| 13:12.30 | JoshBorke | time to pick up key to new apartment, woot! |
| 13:12.49 | cladhaire | grats! |
| 13:12.51 | Lopeppeppy | Yay! |
| 13:13.15 | hipjipp | gz josh |
| 13:16.05 | cbreak | why did you chose a wrapping boundary of 9999999? |
| 13:16.35 | Rabbitbunny | service interval for the mounts. |
| 13:16.54 | hipjipp | hehe |
| 13:18.02 | cbreak | lua's number type should support much bigger numbers, since it uses doubles |
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| 13:19.37 | cladhaire | cbreak: because of the graphics? |
| 13:20.00 | cladhaire | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/08983d82afd44ed50b6c6c7b7084c810.png |
| 13:20.26 | Lopeppeppy | Oil change. |
| 13:20.28 | cbreak | eew! analog... |
| 13:20.34 | cladhaire | eew your face |
| 13:20.36 | cladhaire | its so much cooler |
| 13:20.42 | cladhaire | there's already 18,000 that just do it in text |
| 13:20.43 | cladhaire | fuck that |
| 13:20.51 | cladhaire | so i got an orb of deception |
| 13:20.53 | cladhaire | sell or keep? |
| 13:22.03 | Rabbitbunny | just do what I do. 'if not nailedDown() then sell() else disenchant() end' |
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| 13:30.51 | Nom- | did keys arrive today as expected? |
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| 13:36.09 | Daedals | at least I havent got one |
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| 13:37.36 | Rabbitbunny | I wonder if you could draw aggro/charge/cast circles around mobs... |
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| 13:42.11 | Rabbitbunny | lua> if nil == nil local a == 1 end print(a) |
| 13:42.11 | lua_bot | Rabbitbunny: luabot:1: 'then' expected near 'local' |
| 13:42.19 | Rabbitbunny | lua> if nil == nil then local a == 1 end print(a) |
| 13:42.19 | lua_bot | Rabbitbunny: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '==' |
| 13:42.31 | Rabbitbunny | lua> if nil = nil then local a == 1 end print(a) |
| 13:42.32 | lua_bot | Rabbitbunny: luabot:1: 'then' expected near '=' |
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| 13:42.50 | batrick | faiiil |
| 13:42.52 | Daedals | omg when I change the anchor of my button it doesnt move anywhere! |
| 13:43.07 | Rabbitbunny | lua> if nil == nil then local a = 1 end print(a) |
| 13:43.07 | lua_bot | Rabbitbunny: nil |
| 13:43.14 | cbreak | you can't draw into the 3d world |
| 13:43.20 | Rabbitbunny | hmm. odd. |
| 13:43.22 | cbreak | not from an addon |
| 13:43.36 | Rabbitbunny | cbreak: Dang. That would make it easy mode. |
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| 13:43.42 | cbreak | not odd. local a is only in the then ... end |
| 13:43.48 | cbreak | locals are quite local :) |
| 13:43.59 | Rabbitbunny | Yeah, I was noticing that. |
| 13:44.02 | Daedals | btw, this:IsUserplaced(true) <-- Correct capital letters? |
| 13:44.23 | Rabbitbunny | i normallyDoThis() |
| 13:44.54 | cbreak | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Frame_IsUserPlaced |
| 13:44.56 | Daedals | oh sry I meant SetUserPlaced |
| 13:45.09 | Tem|Work | Rabbitbunny: you fail at lua |
| 13:45.16 | Tem|Work | lua> nil == nil |
| 13:45.16 | lua_bot | Tem|Work: true |
| 13:45.34 | Tem|Work | lua> local a if nil == nil a = 1 end print(a) |
| 13:45.34 | lua_bot | Tem|Work: luabot:1: 'then' expected near 'a' |
| 13:45.40 | Tem|Work | lua> local a if nil == nil then a = 1 end print(a) |
| 13:45.41 | lua_bot | Tem|Work: 1 |
| 13:45.44 | Rabbitbunny | :D |
| 13:46.49 | cladhaire | Daedals: should never use this: |
| 13:46.59 | cladhaire | but hopefully you know that |
| 13:47.09 | Daedals | yeah but I still do that |
| 13:47.18 | Tem|Work | so quit it |
| 13:47.21 | cladhaire | don't |
| 13:47.24 | cladhaire | your addons will break in 3.0 |
| 13:47.26 | Tem|Work | seriously, quit using 'this' |
| 13:47.28 | cladhaire | so don't :P |
| 13:47.45 | Daedals | well its easy to do with "Replace All" in my editor :P |
| 13:47.49 | cbreak | local this = self; |
| 13:47.49 | Tem|Work | you people have had 18 months to change from using 'this' |
| 13:47.58 | Tem|Work | ... |
| 13:48.28 | cladhaire | Daedals: replace all won't fix it |
| 13:48.29 | cladhaire | this is global |
| 13:48.38 | cladhaire | and your functions are almost certainly not methods |
| 13:48.54 | cladhaire | that's why we've been pounding it into everyone's heads since 2.0 came out and it was deprecated |
| 13:49.11 | Tem|Work | since BEFORE 2.0 came out |
| 13:49.16 | cladhaire | aye |
| 13:49.18 | Daedals | well I made "Replace all" and it seems to work |
| 13:49.23 | Tem|Work | ... |
| 13:49.30 | Daedals | but it doesnt lol |
| 13:49.44 | Tem|Work | it's too early for this this |
| 13:49.51 | Tem|Work | s/s this/shit/ |
| 13:49.57 | Daedals | :D |
| 13:50.32 | cbreak | s/;/; -- :)/ |
| 13:50.45 | Daedals | someone should guide through this |
| 13:50.48 | Daedals | self* |
| 13:50.49 | Daedals | :D lol |
| 13:51.46 | Hirsute | Stupid question: If I need to use quotes inside a quoted string (like "Cook "Cookie" McWeaksauce"), how do I escape them, with a \? |
| 13:51.54 | Hirsute | In lua |
| 13:52.05 | cladhaire | lua> "\"Cookie\" McWeaksauce" |
| 13:52.05 | lua_bot | cladhaire: "Cookie" McWeaksauce |
| 13:52.10 | cbreak | think so. you can also use octal notation. |
| 13:52.12 | cladhaire | lua> [["Cookie" McWeaksauce]] |
| 13:52.13 | lua_bot | cladhaire: "Cookie" McWeaksauce |
| 13:52.21 | cladhaire | both will work |
| 13:52.29 | cladhaire | [[]] lets you use anything inside without issues |
| 13:52.34 | Hirsute | Great, thanks! |
| 13:52.35 | cladhaire | so it ends up looking cleaner sometimes |
| 13:53.11 | Tem|Work | lua> '"Cookie" MecWeaksauce' |
| 13:53.12 | lua_bot | Tem|Work: "Cookie" MecWeaksauce |
| 13:53.27 | Tem|Work | Dear Diary |
| 13:53.40 | Tem|Work | 8 am is way to fucking early in the morning |
| 13:53.46 | Tem|Work | s/to/too/ |
| 13:53.55 | Rabbitbunny | It's too late at night. |
| 13:53.56 | cladhaire | 242 Mining! |
| 13:54.06 | cbreak | lua> "octal test\042" |
| 13:54.06 | lua_bot | cbreak: octal test* |
| 13:54.16 | cbreak | hmm... different charset :) |
| 13:54.26 | Tem|Work | also, my coffee's getting cold |
| 13:56.21 | Daedals | so, how do I replace this.isMoving = false; with self? |
| 13:56.24 | Lopeppeppy | Coffee is the suck. Eat more sugar. |
| 13:56.40 | wereHamster | self.isMoving = false; |
| 13:56.58 | Daedals | gives error |
| 13:57.09 | wereHamster | can I see your pastey? |
| 13:57.12 | cbreak | you have to find a place to get what formerly was in this. |
| 13:57.20 | Daedals | kk |
| 13:58.03 | Daedals | wereHamster its just in the frame's <OnLoad> |
| 13:58.16 | Daedals | and it doesnt work if I call it from the lua file |
| 13:58.25 | wereHamster | then you can't use self. You can use self only if you set the function using :SetScript() |
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| 13:58.52 | Daedals | ok |
| 13:59.00 | Tem|Work | wereHamster: not true |
| 13:59.03 | Tem|Work | not true at all |
| 13:59.04 | cbreak | if you use SetScript you can also use this |
| 13:59.12 | cbreak | if you name your function arguments accordingly |
| 13:59.13 | wereHamster | or, well, maybe 'local self = select(1, ...)' will work inside <OnLoad>, but I'm not sure |
| 13:59.17 | Tem|Work | Daedals: post the relevant XML |
| 13:59.19 | Tem|Work | wereHamster: no |
| 13:59.26 | Daedals | hmm wait |
| 13:59.29 | Daedals | its not that |
| 13:59.35 | Daedals | its the other one |
| 13:59.36 | Tem|Work | Daedals: post the XML |
| 13:59.45 | Daedals | sec ill check something |
| 13:59.47 | Tem|Work | POST THE FUCKING CODE SO I CAN HELP YOU |
| 13:59.52 | Daedals | :D |
| 13:59.55 | Tem|Work | MORNINGTEM IS ANGRY |
| 13:59.59 | Daedals | I looked at the wrong line wait |
| 14:00.11 | Tem|Work | MORNINGTEM SMASH |
| 14:00.19 | wereHamster | Tem|Work: '...' is not available inside the xml script handlers? |
| 14:00.39 | Tem|Work | wereHamster: ... is available in the <OnEvent> handler |
| 14:00.47 | Tem|Work | all the others name their arguments |
| 14:01.22 | Tem|Work | OnEvent gets self,event,... |
| 14:01.27 | Tem|Work | OnLoad gets self |
| 14:01.54 | Tem|Work | there's a list on the wiki telling you the naming scheme |
| 14:02.21 | cbreak | http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_Handlers |
| 14:02.23 | Daedals | okays http://pastebin.com/m155b4fda |
| 14:02.44 | Daedals | it doesnt work like this I know but I need to know how |
| 14:02.48 | Daedals | its from the lua |
| 14:03.18 | Daedals | the self.isLocked gives the error |
| 14:03.18 | cladhaire | I don't have an overall listing for scripts, I should remember to make one |
| 14:03.18 | cladhaire | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Frame |
| 14:03.27 | cladhaire | Daedals: function function DPSmeter_MouseDown(self, button, motion) |
| 14:03.30 | cladhaire | err |
| 14:03.42 | cladhaire | function DPSmeter_MouseDown(self, button) |
| 14:03.44 | cladhaire | no motion on that one. |
| 14:03.48 | Daedals | ok |
| 14:03.50 | Daedals | thanks |
| 14:04.08 | cladhaire | ALL of your event handlers function should match the signature that WoW provides. |
| 14:04.17 | Daedals | I havent cared to change things that are deprecated :/ |
| 14:04.24 | Daedals | I should I know |
| 14:04.30 | JoshBorke | i wonder if clad helped me out yet |
| 14:04.33 | Daedals | Im just lazy :P |
| 14:04.41 | cbreak | why do you compare the frame name and not the frame? do you register your function in several frames? |
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| 14:06.45 | Daedals | huh? |
| 14:06.46 | Stefanos | Hi |
| 14:06.48 | Stefanos | I need some help |
| 14:06.58 | Stefanos | im a total noob ive tryed 10000 tuts but i still dont get it |
| 14:06.58 | Daedals | Im using XML to make frames |
| 14:07.01 | Lopeppeppy | Go ahead and ask your question, or pastey your code for us. |
| 14:07.03 | Stefanos | how do i make my addon show ingame? |
| 14:07.13 | Stefanos | I want to make a ingame webbrowser addon |
| 14:07.20 | cog|away | that's impossible |
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| 14:07.22 | Hirsute | Stefanos: No possible |
| 14:07.23 | Stefanos | huh |
| 14:07.25 | Stefanos | Easyhtml? |
| 14:07.28 | Stefanos | no wait |
| 14:07.32 | Stefanos | whats |
| 14:07.33 | Daedals | you cant open files |
| 14:07.34 | JoshBorke | Stefanos: you know that you cannot view websites outside of wow |
| 14:07.35 | Stefanos | that simpleHTML thing? |
| 14:07.38 | Hirsute | Stefanos: Blizz doesn't let addons access anything outside of the game |
| 14:07.42 | cog|away | SimpleHTML is for formatting paragraphs of text |
| 14:07.48 | Stefanos | oh.. |
| 14:07.53 | Stefanos | ok nvm then lol |
| 14:08.26 | cbreak | only way to make an ingame web browser is to either exploit some hole in the api |
| 14:08.35 | cbreak | or download the whole web you want to browse before you log in. |
| 14:08.37 | Daedals | woot now it works |
| 14:08.46 | Daedals | and not a single "this" in code :) |
| 14:09.22 | Daedals | but still my button doesnt move |
| 14:09.28 | Stefanos | ok i am going to make a gm addon then i guess |
| 14:09.33 | Stefanos | shouldnt be to hard. |
| 14:09.50 | cbreak | gold mine addon? |
| 14:09.54 | cbreak | guild master addon? |
| 14:10.33 | Stefanos | gamemaster |
| 14:10.41 | Stefanos | but like with preset classes armors |
| 14:10.48 | Stefanos | like brutal gladiator for priest added with priest button |
| 14:10.54 | Stefanos | that would save me allot of time searching ids. |
| 14:11.19 | cbreak | like LootLink? |
| 14:11.27 | Stefanos | Nope |
| 14:11.32 | Stefanos | like buttons for priest warrior e.g |
| 14:11.40 | Stefanos | and it gives u itemset that at the time is best for ur char |
| 14:11.46 | Lopeppeppy | Like Item Rack, Closet Gnome, etc. |
| 14:11.46 | Stefanos | ( ill just update it if new T comes) |
| 14:11.52 | Stefanos | yeah exactly |
| 14:11.53 | cladhaire | so |
| 14:11.54 | Stefanos | and swimming gear |
| 14:11.58 | Stefanos | like a equipment closet |
| 14:12.00 | cladhaire | you want to work on stuff for a private server? |
| 14:12.04 | cladhaire | cause |
| 14:12.08 | cbreak | you might not know it stefanos |
| 14:12.11 | cladhaire | if that's the case, you should leave this channel |
| 14:12.17 | cbreak | but you can not do more with addons than you can dowithout |
| 14:12.17 | Stefanos | hmm? |
| 14:12.21 | Daedals | http://pastebin.com/m28468218 why doesn't this do a damn thing? |
| 14:12.29 | cog|away | no sounds more like an auto dressing room |
| 14:12.35 | Daedals | the button is stuck at the corner |
| 14:12.39 | Stefanos | ill stick with real wow then i guess. |
| 14:12.41 | End | ranch dressing? |
| 14:13.06 | cladhaire | Daedals: read FrameXML.log, you're missing an <Offset>and </Offset> imo |
| 14:13.13 | Daedals | oh |
| 14:13.28 | Daedals | omg Im making fool of myself here :D |
| 14:13.41 | cladhaire | no you're not |
| 14:13.44 | cladhaire | but you should read the book :P |
| 14:13.48 | cladhaire | XML validation |
| 14:13.50 | cladhaire | i <3 that chapter |
| 14:14.15 | cbreak | I have my doubts that xml is intended to be human readable. |
| 14:14.19 | Stefanos | How do i make 2 buttons with same size |
| 14:14.29 | Stefanos | CTRL-C / manual right click copy wotn work |
| 14:14.30 | Stefanos | lol |
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| 14:14.35 | cladhaire | Stefanos: you have to start with making butons |
| 14:14.45 | cladhaire | then you give them the same height and width |
| 14:14.47 | cladhaire | quite literally |
| 14:15.31 | JoshBorke | quite literally my foot in your ass! |
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| 14:26.22 | Stefanos | SendChatMessage(".additem " [,"chatType" [,"language" [,"channel"]]]); |
| 14:26.32 | Stefanos | what do they mean with language? |
| 14:26.33 | Stefanos | like common? |
| 14:26.53 | Rabbitbunny | yup |
| 14:27.00 | cbreak | like nil :) |
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| 14:27.15 | foxlit | 3.0: GetPlayerMapPosition("player") works in instances |
| 14:27.36 | Daedals | :o nice |
| 14:27.40 | Stefanos | and chattype should be like "say" or "yell" ? |
| 14:27.48 | cbreak | caps |
| 14:27.48 | Daedals | GetNormalTexture(); returns table? |
| 14:28.03 | foxlit | a Texture object, technically |
| 14:28.09 | Daedals | ok |
| 14:28.14 | Daedals | oh yes of course |
| 14:28.15 | foxlit | :GetTexture() on it if you want the string |
| 14:28.25 | Mery | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SendChatMessage |
| 14:28.26 | Daedals | yes I realized that thanks :) |
| 14:28.42 | Stefanos | yeah i used that |
| 14:28.43 | Stefanos | but still |
| 14:28.49 | Stefanos | oh lol |
| 14:28.51 | Stefanos | i never read |
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| 14:28.51 | Stefanos | nvm |
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| 14:30.11 | Stefanos | Channel part isnt understanded though |
| 14:30.15 | Stefanos | i dont want to use a channe |
| 14:30.16 | Stefanos | l |
| 14:30.19 | Stefanos | i want to use normal chat |
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| 14:31.14 | Rabbitbunny | what would you type in-game to chat in the place you want to? |
| 14:31.36 | Stefanos | eh /s |
| 14:32.14 | cbreak | for SAY you don't have to add a channel. Leave it empty or pass nil. |
| 14:36.42 | Stefanos | SendChatMessage("Hello! ", "SAY", "Common", ""); so that syntax would be correct?(if yes im done:P ) |
| 14:36.58 | JoshBorke | Stefanos: why not try it in wow? |
| 14:37.12 | Nom- | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:37.16 | Stefanos | cause my addon isnt showing in wow.. |
| 14:37.18 | Nom- | you'll know instantly if it works or not |
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| 14:40.45 | cbreak | why do you want to use Common? |
| 14:40.51 | Stefanos | yeah |
| 14:40.53 | Stefanos | like normal chat |
| 14:40.58 | Stefanos | idk witch 1 else |
| 14:41.01 | Stefanos | doesnt really matter |
| 14:41.04 | cbreak | use nil |
| 14:41.07 | cbreak | if it doesn't matter |
| 14:41.14 | cbreak | horde can't use Common. |
| 14:41.20 | cbreak | (as far as my sources know) |
| 14:41.30 | Stefanos | o.O |
| 14:41.31 | cbreak | also, you don't need to pass the fourth argument if you don't care about it |
| 14:41.38 | End | I can speak orcish quite fluently though |
| 14:41.56 | malreth | you can whisper to yourself in any language that exists in the game |
| 14:42.03 | Stefanos | hmm ok |
| 14:42.10 | Arrowmaster | malreth: no you cant |
| 14:42.22 | cbreak | whispering with yourself is a sign of mental breakdown. |
| 14:42.22 | Arrowmaster | 1) whispers dont have a language |
| 14:42.32 | malreth | Arrowmaster: did they change it? |
| 14:42.32 | Arrowmaster | 2) they nerfed that a long time ago |
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| 14:42.59 | Arrowmaster | used to be able to do it in party/raid/guild and maybe custom channels |
| 14:43.11 | malreth | i used to do that all the time... |
| 14:43.50 | cbreak | [Orcish] Uga buga bur bur! |
| 14:43.53 | Arrowmaster | i used it to tell the other races to shut the fuck up when 2 of them would start talking to each other in something other than orcish |
| 14:44.14 | Rabbitbunny | ?! 'to malreth: Go north!' 'from malreth: no, it's over here!' |
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| 14:52.03 | Kirkburn | Brought up on #wowwiki ... the most insane "newbie" compilation I ever did saw: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/13253/ |
| 14:52.39 | Kirkburn | Let me point out I have been unzipping the download for almost 5 minutes now |
| 14:52.53 | Lopeppeppy | Owch. |
| 14:53.04 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah. Noobs can install that and configure it and keep it updated. Sure. |
| 14:53.05 | cbreak | newbies need 0 addons. |
| 14:53.26 | Kirkburn | Still waiting on the final filesize |
| 14:53.48 | Kirkburn | cbreak, damn right |
| 14:54.03 | Kirkburn | The /zipped/ download is 100MB |
| 14:54.08 | Lopeppeppy | Meh. WoW can be played vanilla, but it's so much squishier when it's not. :) |
| 14:54.12 | Lopeppeppy | Jeebus crackers. |
| 14:54.20 | cladhaire | Kirkburn: should be there Mon or Tuesday |
| 14:54.32 | Kirkburn | cladhaire, awesome, thanks |
| 14:54.44 | Kirkburn | I think this addon compilation might arrive by then too |
| 14:55.15 | Kirkburn | It's still going... |
| 14:55.48 | Kirkburn | Poor guy on #wowwiki actualy tried the damn thing |
| 14:56.05 | Kirkburn | Yay! It's finished! |
| 14:56.11 | Lopeppeppy | Awww. *comfort* Tell him he got robbed, there are better/easier out there. |
| 14:56.15 | Kirkburn | And it's a lovely .... 328MB of addons |
| 14:56.41 | Kirkburn | 455 addon folders |
| 14:57.03 | cbreak | does it contain useless stuff like omen or bigwigs? |
| 14:57.08 | Kirkburn | It sure does |
| 14:57.11 | cbreak | (as if a newbie wouldneed that during leveling...) |
| 14:57.16 | Kirkburn | And boss mods |
| 14:57.18 | Kirkburn | For Naxx |
| 14:57.24 | Kirkburn | FOR NAXX |
| 14:57.24 | cbreak | fun. |
| 14:58.03 | Lopeppeppy | Littlewigs is nice, and baby wigs is cool for leveling. Not Naxx. *sigh* |
| 14:58.05 | Kirkburn | Cartographer and Atlas. Because who doesn't need just one map mod |
| 14:58.35 | cbreak | class specific addons? |
| 14:58.42 | Kirkburn | But of course |
| 14:58.56 | Kirkburn | I see totems, I see poisons |
| 14:59.10 | Kirkburn | I see half of Cosmos, I see half of the WoWAce SVN |
| 14:59.34 | cbreak | hmm... maybe the collection is not FOR newbies, but BY newbies. |
| 14:59.39 | Kirkburn | I don't wish to sound obsessed, but this is just ... well, I have no word for it really. Not in polite company. |
| 14:59.43 | alestane | London and France trhown in for good measure, sounds like. |
| 14:59.52 | Lopeppeppy | Or obsessive compulsive collectors of any addon that was ever useful for anyone at any time. |
| 15:01.04 | Stefanos | i need help i made a frame with functioning buttons how do i make it appear and dissapear? |
| 15:01.21 | Stefanos | like with /myaddonopen orsomething |
| 15:03.00 | cbreak | with :Show() and :Hide() |
| 15:03.08 | Stefanos | k |
| 15:03.11 | Stefanos | and that works on the fram |
| 15:03.12 | Stefanos | e |
| 15:03.15 | Stefanos | or all the buttons |
| 15:03.27 | cbreak | StefAddonFrame.Show(StefAddonFrame) for example. |
| 15:03.29 | Stefanos | i can do just the frame or i have to do it for all components i ment |
| 15:03.33 | alestane | The frame and all its children. |
| 15:03.42 | Stefanos | oh ok |
| 15:03.48 | alestane | Or StefAddonFrame:Show() |
| 15:04.32 | cbreak | you told him the easy way :/ |
| 15:04.44 | Stefanos | lol? :P |
| 15:05.24 | zenzelezz | depends what you mean. From his /myaddonopen sentence I guess he also wants a slash command |
| 15:05.36 | Stefanos | SlashCmdList["thott"] = WowAddon8_SlashCommand; |
| 15:05.39 | Stefanos | something like that? |
| 15:05.44 | Stefanos | i found some snipper of it |
| 15:06.02 | zenzelezz | can't recall, but I think there's some change in 3.0? |
| 15:06.25 | alestane | zenzelezz: The change in 3.0 is being reverted, or at least made backward-compatible. |
| 15:06.30 | Stefanos | SLASH_WowAddon81= "/thott"; this:RegisterEvent("VARIABLES_LOADED") |
| 15:06.45 | zenzelezz | alestane: I see |
| 15:06.57 | alestane | Stefanos: I declare slash commands thusly: |
| 15:07.00 | cbreak | you probably should watch your usage of "this" |
| 15:07.37 | alestane | function SlashCmdList.WowAddon8 (msg) WowAddon8Frame:Show() end |
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| 15:07.51 | alestane | SLASH_WowAddon81 = "/thott" |
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| 15:08.34 | Legorol | morning folks |
| 15:08.45 | zenzelezz | ahoy |
| 15:08.51 | Stefanos | Where should i declare the slash? |
| 15:08.53 | Stefanos | bellow the end? |
| 15:09.30 | alestane | Yes. |
| 15:09.51 | cbreak | I usually do it in my addon's OnLoad |
| 15:10.17 | Legorol | is that ok for me to break into the discussion with a separate (possibly involved) coding question? |
| 15:10.22 | Legorol | or are you guys busy focusing on the current one |
| 15:10.33 | Legorol | heck, i'll just ask away |
| 15:10.46 | alestane | That's the usual policy. |
| 15:10.52 | alestane | SOmeone will start answering it. |
| 15:11.08 | Legorol | what's an efficient way to try and match multiple patterns against a single string, especially when i have to do it lots |
| 15:11.16 | Legorol | i'm doing something that's like combat log parsing basically |
| 15:11.22 | Legorol | and i've never written log parsing code |
| 15:11.31 | alestane | Stefanos: More info here: http://www.wowwiki.com/Creating_a_slash_command |
| 15:11.42 | Stefanos | k thq |
| 15:12.07 | cbreak | Legorol: the combat log events changed in a recent patch. you sure you still need pattern matching? |
| 15:12.22 | Stefanos | Bah doesnt show in addon list 100% positive it is in the right place. |
| 15:12.44 | cbreak | if it doesn't show you did something wrong :) |
| 15:13.02 | Legorol | yes cbreak, as i said i'm not doing combat log parsing, i'm doing something that is *like* combat log parsing |
| 15:13.02 | cbreak | maybe forgot a TOC file, wrong file name or something similar. |
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| 15:13.28 | cbreak | you could check all patterns one after each other, starting with that which you expect most |
| 15:13.35 | cbreak | and stop parsing after you found a match |
| 15:13.53 | cbreak | or you could try to categorize your string first if that's possible with your patterns. |
| 15:14.14 | Stefanos | arg |
| 15:14.16 | Stefanos | my toc file |
| 15:14.18 | Stefanos | ## X-AutoGenerated: true |
| 15:14.18 | cbreak | if possible, use ^ and $ in your patterns to speed up matching. |
| 15:14.19 | cbreak | I think |
| 15:14.24 | Stefanos | ## X-GeneratorComment: Basic project properties and project files will be automatically added during deployment. Properties added by the user will be copied without changes. |
| 15:14.26 | Stefanos | thats all it says |
| 15:14.37 | cbreak | incomplete. |
| 15:14.44 | cbreak | add the correct data Stef. |
| 15:14.44 | Stefanos | uhu |
| 15:14.50 | Stefanos | k |
| 15:15.16 | cbreak | http://www.wowwiki.com/TOC_format |
| 15:15.20 | Legorol | cbreak: i was thinking of doing something like this: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/92905 |
| 15:15.26 | Legorol | is that the most efficient way, or is there a better way |
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| 15:15.39 | Arrowmaster | somebody is obviously using AddOn Studio |
| 15:16.17 | Stefanos | yeah i am |
| 15:16.29 | Atriace | AddOn Studio doesn't do code indentation? |
| 15:16.38 | Arrowmaster | yeah dont expect much to work |
| 15:16.41 | Legorol | also, a noobie question: string.match is the same as string.find in all respects, except for not returning the start and end locations, right? |
| 15:16.53 | Arrowmaster | Legorol: sorta but no |
| 15:17.11 | cbreak | Legorol: You could make a parse tree I think. Depending on your patterns |
| 15:17.13 | Arrowmaster | Legorol: if you are using lua pattern matching then yeah |
| 15:17.41 | Arrowmaster | string.find has an extra feature that string.match doesnt |
| 15:17.57 | Legorol | oh? |
| 15:18.01 | Stefanos | fixed the toc still something wrong :S |
| 15:18.01 | Legorol | which one is that Arrowmaster |
| 15:18.17 | Arrowmaster | the ability to not use pattern matching |
| 15:18.19 | Legorol | you mean the plain flag? |
| 15:18.20 | Legorol | right |
| 15:18.23 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 15:18.25 | cbreak | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html has the exact docs |
| 15:18.27 | Legorol | doesn't concern me right now |
| 15:18.30 | Legorol | cbreak: i know :) |
| 15:18.35 | cbreak | it also returns the position of the find |
| 15:18.40 | Legorol | i read them, and i thought i understood them, i'm just checking i understood right |
| 15:18.47 | Legorol | cbreak, that i already said |
| 15:18.51 | Legorol | so what's a parse tree? |
| 15:19.22 | Legorol | What I'm doing: I'm parsing a log file, line by line, where each line was computer generated and therefore has strict structure |
| 15:19.22 | cladhaire | thats a rather complex question |
| 15:19.38 | Legorol | but each line can look quite different |
| 15:19.44 | Legorol | for example: Bob eats an apple |
| 15:19.45 | cbreak | if you have several patterns that start with "^Foo", you can first match "^Foo" and if it matches try the patterns that start with it |
| 15:19.51 | Legorol | Joe forgets the umbrella |
| 15:19.53 | Stefanos | http://www.pastebin.ca/1089796 can u do a quick peak to real dumb mistake i make? |
| 15:19.58 | Legorol | so i will be using something along 10-15 patterns |
| 15:20.09 | Stefanos | the dir is named GMSEt my files are all named GMSET (GMSET.LOC GMSET.LUA GMSET.XML |
| 15:20.24 | malreth | Stefanos: your .toc doesn't mention any of the files that have to be loaded |
| 15:20.31 | Legorol | cbreak: ok i see |
| 15:20.40 | Stefanos | The tutorial didnt say it had to |
| 15:20.45 | Legorol | what's the most efficient way to code something like that? just a cascade of if-s? |
| 15:20.49 | Stefanos | omg |
| 15:20.55 | Stefanos | i didnt update the fuckin toc.. |
| 15:21.01 | Stefanos | its in my documents .. |
| 15:21.03 | cbreak | Legorol: I was bad in compiler design class, but I am sure it was around there where parsing came to topic :) |
| 15:21.19 | Legorol | i never took any formal computer science education :( |
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| 15:21.31 | malreth | Stefanos: the TOC format page on wowwiki.com has an example TOC file at the end |
| 15:21.37 | Legorol | ok if i can't make a parse tree, can anyone think of anything more efficient than http://wowuidev.pastey.net/92905? |
| 15:21.39 | p3lim | hm... |
| 15:21.48 | p3lim | I cant change the state of a bug report |
| 15:22.12 | Industrial | random talk ftw |
| 15:22.20 | cladhaire | Legorol: do you only have two tokens? |
| 15:22.30 | JoshBorke | arrays are fun! |
| 15:22.30 | cbreak | you can try to sort your patterns according to their expected occurence probability |
| 15:22.39 | malreth | Stefanos: http://www.wowwiki.com/Getting_started_with_writing_addons |
| 15:22.43 | Legorol | cladhaire: no i think i usually have 3 |
| 15:22.44 | malreth | actually |
| 15:22.47 | cladhaire | and its probably best to automate it |
| 15:22.51 | Legorol | but i think it's always a fixed number |
| 15:22.52 | cladhaire | i.e. have a table of patterns, and handlers. |
| 15:22.57 | cbreak | you can also put your patterns in a table so that you only have a loop iterating over the patterns on each input string |
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| 15:23.05 | cbreak | which would make the code a bit more readable |
| 15:23.06 | Legorol | cladhaire: i thought of that, but i htought it'd be less efficient |
| 15:23.13 | malreth | just read it all, Stefanos: http://www.wowwiki.com/Portal:Interface_customization |
| 15:23.21 | Legorol | i will have around 10 patterns |
| 15:23.21 | cladhaire | don't optimize first :P |
| 15:23.25 | Legorol | ok |
| 15:23.30 | Legorol | i'll go with readable code first :) |
| 15:23.34 | cladhaire | do what makes sense, is readable, and maintainable |
| 15:23.37 | cladhaire | lua will suprise you :P |
| 15:23.39 | malreth | Stefanos: or buy the book... wowprogramming.com |
| 15:23.40 | Legorol | so table of patterns and handlers, cool |
| 15:23.40 | JoshBorke | yea man |
| 15:23.53 | Legorol | here is a second question following up from it: |
| 15:23.56 | Atriace | lua> for for v = 1, 10, 3 do print("choo" end |
| 15:23.56 | lua_bot | Atriace: luabot:1: '<name>' expected near 'for' |
| 15:23.59 | JoshBorke | what the guy who said he'd help me out (even though he hasn't yet) says |
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| 15:24.09 | Stefanos | seems to be working but the slash command nope |
| 15:24.11 | Atriace | lua> for for v = 1, 10, 3 do print("choo") end |
| 15:24.11 | lua_bot | Atriace: luabot:1: '<name>' expected near 'for' |
| 15:24.15 | Legorol | most of the time the processing involves changing some small part of the line, and returning the line |
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| 15:24.24 | Atriace | lua> for v = 1, 10, 3 do print("choo") end |
| 15:24.24 | lua_bot | Atriace: choo, choo, choo, choo |
| 15:24.26 | Legorol | so most of the time i'll have to do two things: |
| 15:24.36 | Legorol | extract the tokens, and then change the line slightly based on the tokens |
| 15:24.47 | Legorol | is there a good way to optimize that? |
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| 15:24.57 | Legorol | example would be: |
| 15:24.58 | cladhaire | you're changing things in the line that aren't the tokens? |
| 15:25.05 | Legorol | nope |
| 15:25.09 | krka | i missed the beginning :( |
| 15:25.10 | Legorol | line says: Bob eats apple |
| 15:25.22 | Legorol | i need to extract the apple, but i also want to change it to Bob eats big apple |
| 15:25.28 | cladhaire | ah |
| 15:25.33 | cladhaire | use a gsub with a table/function |
| 15:25.36 | Legorol | i need the token later |
| 15:25.44 | Legorol | but i also want to do the replacement efficiently |
| 15:25.45 | krka | let the function save it |
| 15:25.51 | cladhaire | that way you only construct ONE string |
| 15:25.56 | cladhaire | rather than having to replace token1 then token2 |
| 15:26.00 | cbreak | you could use two tables, one for patterns, one for handlers, or a single table for both. |
| 15:26.01 | Legorol | krka: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/92905 |
| 15:26.26 | Legorol | cladhaire: i can do the replacement in one go, that's fine |
| 15:26.27 | Drundia | i think it's new generation of addons: giving people bigger apples ;) |
| 15:26.34 | Drundia | can i get bigger one too? |
| 15:26.38 | Legorol | what i was worreid about is this, if i first do a pattern match to get the tokens, |
| 15:26.46 | Legorol | and then i do a second match to replace the tokens |
| 15:26.52 | Legorol | that's two steps, any way to combine them? |
| 15:27.00 | krka | i think so |
| 15:27.43 | krka | or.. hm |
| 15:27.44 | Legorol | Example: pattern is "(%w+) eats (%w+)" |
| 15:27.50 | cladhaire | not if you need to use the token later |
| 15:27.53 | Legorol | i need to extract the name and object, and store them for later |
| 15:28.02 | Drundia | not really |
| 15:28.10 | Legorol | but i also want to replace it with "Smart <name> eats big <object>" |
| 15:28.15 | Drundia | if it's table replacement it will be keyed by first match |
| 15:28.24 | Drundia | if it's function it will receive all matches as arguments |
| 15:28.39 | cladhaire | aye, you can store it in the gsub |
| 15:28.40 | Drundia | so you will know that it's "Bob" and "apple" |
| 15:28.46 | cladhaire | so you're correct |
| 15:29.00 | cladhaire | not that you didn't know that :P |
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| 15:29.39 | Legorol | Drundia: i know that part, that's fine |
| 15:29.52 | Legorol | so on a rudimentary level, will i get away with: |
| 15:29.56 | Kirkburn | It was never Alice and Bob, it was Apple and Bob. And Candy. |
| 15:30.02 | Legorol | - iterate my table of patterns, find a match (and save the tokens) |
| 15:30.05 | JoshBorke | ~poke cladhaire |
| 15:30.06 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind cladhaire, pokes cladhaire repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 15:30.20 | Legorol | - call processing function, and do a pattern match again on the line with gsub this time |
| 15:30.54 | Legorol | i guess i can do the (save the tokens) part in the processing function |
| 15:31.02 | cladhaire | or what we're saying is, you can just do a series of gsubs on your string and never have to do the find |
| 15:31.18 | Legorol | but gsub doesn't return the captures |
| 15:31.22 | Legorol | so i can't store them for later |
| 15:31.26 | cladhaire | you can store them in the processing function |
| 15:31.28 | Legorol | i need those tokens after the current line |
| 15:31.28 | cladhaire | we already said that :P |
| 15:31.33 | cladhaire | yes |
| 15:31.34 | Legorol | oh, i see |
| 15:31.36 | cladhaire | we know! |
| 15:31.37 | Legorol | then i'm just being slow |
| 15:31.41 | Stefanos | http://www.pastebin.ca/1089805 can some1 find uot whats wrong why it isnt listening when i type /gmst1 ? |
| 15:31.43 | cladhaire | for example |
| 15:31.52 | Legorol | ok, i think i'm finally getting what you are getting at |
| 15:32.28 | cbreak | I'd make a table with key=pattern and value=function |
| 15:32.32 | krka | Legorol: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/92907 |
| 15:32.33 | cbreak | if you don't care about the ordering |
| 15:32.41 | cbreak | so you can just iterate with pairs over the table |
| 15:32.41 | krka | does that help you at all or did i misunderstand the problem? |
| 15:32.52 | Atriace | lua> for v = 3, 10, 3 do print("la") end |
| 15:32.52 | lua_bot | Atriace: la, la, la |
| 15:33.17 | Legorol | krka, going to read |
| 15:33.19 | Mery | Stefanos: you probably need to at least replace "FunctionToCall" with the actual function you want to call |
| 15:33.25 | cbreak | try to match each key like local a, b, cap1, cap2 = string.find(line, pattern) |
| 15:33.33 | cbreak | and then if it matches pass the results to the handler function |
| 15:33.42 | cladhaire | lua>tokens = {}; sub = setmetatable({Alice = "Smart Alice", apple = "Big apple"}, {__index = function(t,k) return k end); print(("Alice has an apple"):gsub("^(%w+) has (%w+) (%w+)", function(token) table.insert(tokens, token); return sub[token] end)) |
| 15:33.42 | lua_bot | cladhaire: luabot:1: '}' expected near ')' |
| 15:33.43 | Stefanos | and that function would be GMSET_SlashCmdHandler() ? |
| 15:33.44 | cladhaire | boo |
| 15:33.55 | Mery | without the () yes |
| 15:34.00 | cladhaire | lua>tokens = {}; sub = setmetatable({Alice = "Smart Alice", apple = "Big apple"}, {__index = function(t,k) return k end}); print(("Alice has an apple"):gsub("^(%w+) has (%w+) (%w+)", function(token) table.insert(tokens, token); return sub[token] end)) |
| 15:34.00 | lua_bot | cladhaire: Smart Alice, 1 |
| 15:34.15 | cbreak | meta table trickery doesn't make code more readable :) |
| 15:34.17 | krka | l2test in your own lua terminal |
| 15:34.35 | malreth | Stefanos: SlashCmdList["GMSET"] = FunctionToCall; <-- You actually need to fill that in with the function that is to be called |
| 15:34.36 | cladhaire | it was a one-liner.. it shouldn't have been necessary |
| 15:34.39 | cladhaire | thanks tho! |
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| 15:34.55 | malreth | Stefanos: also, GMSETFrame.Show(GMSET) <-- is doing it wrong |
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| 15:35.07 | Legorol | cladhaire: i get what you are trying to do, won't quite work for what i'm doing here |
| 15:35.10 | Legorol | but krka's solution works |
| 15:35.21 | Stefanos | nope |
| 15:35.23 | Legorol | cbreak: your suggestion is what i was trying to optimise a little more |
| 15:35.24 | Stefanos | oh ok |
| 15:35.37 | malreth | Stefanos: what is the name of the frame you're making? |
| 15:35.46 | krka | not sure how i'd generalize it per pattern though |
| 15:35.53 | cladhaire | i'm not sure how they're really different, but okay |
| 15:35.55 | malreth | or, to put it another way, what do *you* think you named it? |
| 15:36.01 | krka | maybe use string format instead |
| 15:36.05 | Stefanos | Frame.lua or Frame1 ? |
| 15:36.10 | Legorol | cladhaire: yours relies on me wanting to do the same thing with each token |
| 15:36.14 | Stefanos | Frame1 i think |
| 15:36.18 | cladhaire | the second one did |
| 15:36.21 | Legorol | i have to use each token in slightly different ways |
| 15:36.21 | Stefanos | cause it says in xml Frame1_OnLoad |
| 15:36.27 | cladhaire | yes, I'm aware |
| 15:36.31 | malreth | Stefanos: correct... you named it Frame1 |
| 15:36.31 | cladhaire | nevermind, it doesn't matter you have your solution |
| 15:36.31 | Legorol | right |
| 15:36.48 | Stefanos | GMSETFrame1.Show(GMSET).. ? |
| 15:36.56 | malreth | Stefanos: so when you try to show it by calling GMSETFrame.Show(GMSET) it's *obviously* not going to show Frame1 |
| 15:36.58 | Legorol | thanks a lot guys, i knew i can count on you to make it smarter :) |
| 15:37.30 | malreth | Stefanos: no... you never named your frame GMSETFrame1 |
| 15:37.36 | malreth | you named it Frame1 |
| 15:37.41 | Stefanos | oh |
| 15:37.45 | cbreak | lua> {string.find("fischers fritz fischt frische fische", "(%w+)")} |
| 15:37.45 | lua_bot | cbreak: table: 0x666a30 |
| 15:37.58 | Stefanos | Frame1.Show(GMSET) would do |
| 15:38.02 | malreth | no |
| 15:38.06 | Stefanos | omg |
| 15:38.17 | malreth | Frame1:Show() |
| 15:38.28 | cbreak | Frame1 is a very bad name. |
| 15:38.34 | malreth | ^ that too |
| 15:38.37 | Stefanos | Should i remae it go GMSET? |
| 15:38.40 | Stefanos | to * |
| 15:38.48 | Stefanos | or like mainFrame ? |
| 15:38.49 | cbreak | if you use globals, ALWAYS use prefixes |
| 15:39.04 | cbreak | StefGMSET_Frame1 |
| 15:39.22 | cbreak | something like that |
| 15:39.23 | Stefanos | *confused*. So i have to rename it to that |
| 15:39.24 | Stefanos | ? |
| 15:39.30 | malreth | yeah, GMSET_Frame1 would be good... something like that is not likely to be used by anyone else |
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| 15:39.44 | malreth | you need to change the name everywhere in your code... in the .lua and .xml files |
| 15:40.03 | Stefanos | yup |
| 15:40.05 | Stefanos | did imma test. |
| 15:41.07 | Stefanos | nope |
| 15:41.17 | Stefanos | somehow the slashcommand doesnt recognize |
| 15:41.25 | Stefanos | in normal chat /gmst1 says its not a valid ocmmand |
| 15:41.33 | Stefanos | and with macro it doesnt give a message it just says nothin g |
| 15:41.40 | malreth | re-paste what you have now in your Lua |
| 15:43.04 | Stefanos | http://www.pastebin.ca/1089813 |
| 15:43.41 | malreth | <OnLoad>GMSET_Frame1_OnLoad();</OnLoad> |
| 15:43.57 | Stefanos | hmm? |
| 15:43.59 | malreth | function GMSET_OnLoad( |
| 15:44.10 | malreth | your onload function will never be called |
| 15:44.17 | malreth | actually, you should have gotten an error |
| 15:44.30 | malreth | if you didn't, you have errors turned off... change that |
| 15:44.34 | Stefanos | function GMSET_Frame1_OnLoad() that ok? |
| 15:44.37 | cbreak | GMSET_Frame1_OnLoad(), attempt to call a nil value |
| 15:44.44 | Stefanos | eh where errors turn on? |
| 15:44.51 | malreth | Stefanos: interface options |
| 15:44.57 | p3lim | Is there some archive on "Pick of the week"? |
| 15:45.00 | Stefanos | oh ok |
| 15:45.09 | malreth | or install an addon like BugSack or Swatter |
| 15:45.24 | cbreak | you want to use GMSET_OnLoad |
| 15:45.41 | Stefanos | for the slashcommand part? |
| 15:45.51 | cbreak | for the XML part |
| 15:45.58 | malreth | Stefanos: both names must be the same |
| 15:46.01 | cbreak | the function you use there does not exist |
| 15:46.12 | p3lim | anyone? |
| 15:46.15 | Stefanos | function GMSET_Frame1_OnLoad() in the slashcommand part isnt right either |
| 15:46.17 | malreth | this is programming, not hand grenades... you must specify everything exactly |
| 15:46.23 | cbreak | what's pick of the week? |
| 15:46.29 | Stefanos | function GMSET_SlashCmdHandler() does the show command o.O |
| 15:46.45 | malreth | Stefanos: no |
| 15:46.57 | malreth | in your .xml you specify a function to be called on load |
| 15:47.06 | malreth | that on load function creates your slash commands |
| 15:47.48 | p3lim | cbreak: http://www.wowinterface.com/pickofweek.php |
| 15:48.26 | malreth | Stefanos: follow me here for a bit... in your .xml you have this: <OnLoad>GMSET_Frame1_OnLoad();</OnLoad> |
| 15:48.41 | Stefanos | ye |
| 15:48.45 | malreth | change that to be the *actual* name of the function that you made in your .lua |
| 15:49.00 | Stefanos | ok so GMSET_OnLoad? |
| 15:49.03 | malreth | good |
| 15:49.21 | Stefanos | right |
| 15:49.37 | malreth | Stefanos: have you ever done any programming before? |
| 15:49.49 | cbreak | p3lim: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/search.php?searchid=1171099 |
| 15:49.52 | Stefanos | yeah |
| 15:49.53 | cbreak | (this is a hack) |
| 15:50.03 | Stefanos | VB6, a little C# |
| 15:50.13 | p3lim | cbreak: says no matches |
| 15:50.18 | Stefanos | Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms. on that forum link |
| 15:50.19 | Stefanos | ye |
| 15:50.32 | malreth | in school? any formal training? or just messing around on your own? |
| 15:50.34 | cbreak | hmm... click on Seerah on the pick of the week page |
| 15:50.40 | Stefanos | eh yeah on my own |
| 15:50.46 | cbreak | and select threads started by her |
| 15:50.53 | Seerah | that tickles! |
| 15:50.55 | Stefanos | VB isnt to hard so. if i had a problem with VB i just find a snipper on googl. |
| 15:51.09 | cbreak | oh, there's even http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=79 :) |
| 15:51.16 | Stefanos | lol im in middleschool no real "IT" / programming education there |
| 15:51.16 | malreth | ok... here's a tip while you get your feet wet... make one change at a time |
| 15:51.18 | Seerah | There is a whole PotW forum, guys |
| 15:51.20 | malreth | only one |
| 15:51.26 | Anaral | Aye |
| 15:51.29 | Stefanos | and whys that? |
| 15:51.34 | Anaral | Much easier to track issues |
| 15:51.35 | Stefanos | cause its easy to remember waht u did? |
| 15:51.48 | Stefanos | eh ok |
| 15:52.08 | cbreak | tip: Use git or a similar SCM |
| 15:52.09 | malreth | so you can make a change, observe the result, and then think about what you did |
| 15:52.13 | Anaral | Because each key click can either make or break your addon. ;) |
| 15:52.23 | malreth | the important part is the thinking |
| 15:52.45 | malreth | if you just make change after change after change but never think about what's happening in your code |
| 15:52.55 | malreth | you will just keep getting more and more in over your head |
| 15:53.37 | malreth | eventually, after weeks/months/years of this, you will reach a point where you literally run the code in your head |
| 15:54.23 | Stefanos | :P |
| 15:54.27 | Stefanos | U know second life? |
| 15:54.35 | Stefanos | theres this scripting language to make objects do stuff e.g |
| 15:54.44 | Stefanos | costed me 4 fuckin years of my life to learn that o.O |
| 15:54.56 | Stefanos | anyway Display LUA errors was toggled on so.. |
| 15:55.01 | krka | Stefanos: You shouldn't capitalize Lua like that :( |
| 15:55.04 | Stefanos | no error.. but its not reacting on command. |
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| 15:55.23 | Mery | paste it again please |
| 15:55.23 | malreth | well, i've been programming for 23 years... :) |
| 15:55.35 | p3lim | cbreak: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=79 |
| 15:55.37 | Stefanos | o.O i havent even lived half that long.. |
| 15:55.37 | p3lim | found it |
| 15:56.19 | JoshBorke | geebus malreth |
| 15:56.25 | JoshBorke | i was 1 when you started programming |
| 15:56.47 | Stefanos | http://www.pastebin.ca/1089832 ive reuploaded |
| 15:56.49 | Stefanos | omg lol Josh |
| 15:56.49 | Stefanos | xd |
| 15:56.51 | malreth | yeah... it's not all songbirds and roses, tho |
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| 15:57.28 | malreth | aaaaah.... |
| 15:57.44 | malreth | so... what error did you get, Stefanos? |
| 15:57.50 | Stefanos | none |
| 15:58.05 | Stefanos | just no reaction if i use /gmst1 ( the command defined ) |
| 15:58.16 | Stefanos | well it says type /help bla bla bla |
| 15:58.18 | malreth | what's the name of the on load function in your .xml? what's the name of the on load function in your .lua? |
| 15:58.25 | Stefanos | and if i do ti with macro it says nothin |
| 15:58.29 | JoshBorke | look at FrameXML.log |
| 15:59.03 | Mery | that happens when multiple people help - lol |
| 15:59.08 | Stefanos | xml = <OnLoad>GMSET_OnLoad();</OnLoad> GMSET_Frame1_OnLoad() is for the declaration of the slashcommand |
| 15:59.18 | malreth | not the same, are they? |
| 15:59.34 | malreth | hint: they need to be the same name |
| 15:59.36 | Stefanos | nope |
| 15:59.41 | Stefanos | but witch 1 should they be |
| 15:59.45 | malreth | doesn't matter |
| 15:59.49 | malreth | as long as they're the same |
| 16:00.11 | Aznamir | so, has anyone got their dev key yet? |
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| 16:01.01 | malreth | this is the part where you start thinking about *why* they have to be the same |
| 16:01.30 | Stefanos | otherwise 1 calls to some1 that doesnt exist |
| 16:01.32 | cbreak | oh my... you exchanged the names? |
| 16:01.33 | Stefanos | but still doesnt work o.O |
| 16:01.53 | cbreak | btw: make sure that you load your lua code before the xml code that contains the OnLoad |
| 16:01.57 | cbreak | or it won't be declared |
| 16:02.00 | malreth | Stefanos: bingo... |
| 16:02.06 | malreth | cbreak: not correct |
| 16:02.08 | Stefanos | And how do i prevent that? |
| 16:02.19 | cbreak | I had problems with that |
| 16:02.26 | malreth | Stefanos: that's not the issue |
| 16:02.44 | malreth | but let's find out what is the issue |
| 16:02.55 | malreth | Stefanos: what is the name of your .lua file? |
| 16:03.23 | Stefanos | GMSET.lua |
| 16:03.28 | Stefanos | all same |
| 16:03.33 | Stefanos | GMSET.XML GMSET.LOC |
| 16:03.39 | malreth | in your .xml file you have this <Script file="Frame.lua" /> |
| 16:03.47 | malreth | that tells wow the name of your lua file to load |
| 16:04.02 | malreth | hint: they need to be the same |
| 16:04.07 | cbreak | yes, you should load your lua file before the frame xml stuff, not something else :) |
| 16:04.07 | Stefanos | eh lol ok |
| 16:04.12 | Stefanos | i changed it to GMSET.LUA |
| 16:04.24 | malreth | so... |
| 16:04.34 | malreth | now we *think* |
| 16:04.42 | malreth | because they weren't the same, WoW never loaded your .lua file |
| 16:04.52 | malreth | which is why you never got any error messages |
| 16:05.12 | cbreak | he should have gotten error messages about the nil function call in his OnLoad |
| 16:05.13 | malreth | we can now identify the symptoms and the causes |
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| 16:05.23 | Stefanos | eh still nothin worked xd |
| 16:05.50 | malreth | cbreak: actually, i think the xml parsing should have died when it couldn't find the script file to load |
| 16:06.11 | cbreak | hmm... or that |
| 16:07.06 | cbreak | I don't see the point of that addon anyway. All it does is say meaningless stuff |
| 16:07.21 | Stefanos | ye well its just a test o.O |
| 16:07.34 | Zeksie | someone help me out here... action buttons, when the cooldown is up, they have this kind of fade in/fade out flash over them... where is that done? Can't find it for looking :| |
| 16:07.37 | Stefanos | anyway it doesnt show my frame with macro and says typeh elp when i type /gmst1 o.O its weired. |
| 16:08.26 | malreth | no errors? |
| 16:08.29 | Mery | Stefanos: can you paste your "World of Warcaft\logs\FrameXML.log" ? |
| 16:08.31 | cbreak | Zeksie: It's probably one of those: http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API#Cooldown |
| 16:08.34 | Stefanos | k |
| 16:08.35 | cbreak | or maybe not |
| 16:09.19 | Stefanos | I checked the log |
| 16:09.24 | Stefanos | it says NOTHING about my addon |
| 16:09.27 | malreth | yeah |
| 16:09.31 | Stefanos | i am sure its enabled though |
| 16:09.39 | malreth | so, remember when i told you file names need to be the same |
| 16:09.40 | Zeksie | nah. it's not that. that just does the pie progress thing |
| 16:09.41 | Mery | then show us your toc please |
| 16:09.58 | Zeksie | looked all thru the ActionButton templates, their OnUpdates... bleh |
| 16:10.06 | malreth | Stefanos: make sure you've got the name of the xml file correct in your .toc file |
| 16:10.11 | Stefanos | ## Interface: 20400 ## Title: GMSETadd ## Notes: Easy GM set add |
| 16:10.13 | Stefanos | omg lol |
| 16:10.18 | malreth | you got it |
| 16:10.23 | Stefanos | the tut on wowwiki sayed the name didnt matter though |
| 16:10.31 | malreth | no... |
| 16:10.39 | Zeksie | ahhh. found it... in UIParent... ofc.. |
| 16:10.40 | cbreak | it should be one line per option. |
| 16:10.40 | malreth | your .toc file never mentions the name of the file to load |
| 16:11.27 | malreth | at the end of your .toc file |
| 16:11.38 | malreth | you need to list the file that WoW needs to load |
| 16:11.48 | malreth | that's where you put the name of your .xml file |
| 16:11.56 | malreth | your .xml file lists the name of the .lua file to load |
| 16:11.58 | Stefanos | GMSET.lua GMSET.XML added |
| 16:12.03 | cbreak | I mention my lua files there too, but you already do that in your xml file, so that's not needed |
| 16:12.04 | Stefanos | both seperate lines |
| 16:12.11 | malreth | ok... |
| 16:12.15 | malreth | Stefanos: however |
| 16:12.41 | malreth | if you specify your .lua file in your .toc file, you need to remove the <Script> line from your .xml |
| 16:12.49 | malreth | otherwise, you're going to load the .lua file twice |
| 16:13.11 | malreth | makes sense? |
| 16:14.17 | cbreak | in your case that should not matter, since the second load would just overwrite the first. But it can do bad things in some cases. |
| 16:14.28 | cbreak | (and it's a waste of time to load the file twice) |
| 16:19.10 | Stefanos | worked bro |
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| 16:20.50 | malreth | well done |
| 16:21.05 | malreth | i have someplace to be... so off i go |
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| 16:22.06 | Daedals | could someone help me? http://pastebin.com/m3833b9a5 |
| 16:22.23 | Daedals | I need to get the text (fontstring) on top of the statusbar |
| 16:23.36 | Legorol | Whoever helped with the parsing, thanks a lot, working beautifully |
| 16:24.02 | Legorol | went with krka 's LUA solution |
| 16:24.08 | Legorol | :( no bot response |
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| 16:24.20 | cbreak | good :) |
| 16:24.51 | Legorol | so now i can finally tell which of my officers deleted a raid in our calendar :) |
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| 16:25.55 | Daedals | nobody has any idea? |
| 16:27.03 | Legorol | Daedals: the very first line with the CreateFrame seems to have the wrong syntax |
| 16:27.06 | Legorol | oh nvm, my bad |
| 16:27.08 | cbreak | sorry Daedals, don't use GUI stuff much |
| 16:27.15 | Mery | Daedals: http://www.wowwiki.com/FrameStrata is differnt from the http://www.wowwiki.com/Layer a texture is set to |
| 16:27.27 | Legorol | is there such a frame type as StatusBar? |
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| 16:27.40 | Daedals | the both are showing correctly in game, so yes |
| 16:27.46 | Stefanos | Question on that declaration of those slash commands. Should i use GMSET_Frame1_OnLoad or just GMSET_Onload? |
| 16:28.10 | Daedals | I only need the text to show on top of the bar, not under it as it is now |
| 16:28.16 | Legorol | !api StatusBar |
| 16:28.16 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'StatusBar'. |
| 16:28.28 | Aznamir | Stefanos, I think anything, as long as it is the same in XML and LUA |
| 16:28.34 | krka | Aznamir: Lua is not an acronym. |
| 16:28.39 | Stefanos | ok i guess thats the frame? |
| 16:28.39 | Daedals | http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API#StatusBar |
| 16:28.41 | Stefanos | on frame load. |
| 16:29.39 | Daedals | I have no ide how I could set the text to be "higher" |
| 16:29.44 | Daedals | idea* |
| 16:29.48 | Mery | bar:SetStatusBarTexture("Interface\\TargetingFrame\\UI-StatusBar", "BACKGROUND"); maybe? |
| 16:30.03 | cbreak | Stefanos: the point of the name is to identify something. You can chose any name, but a good name is descriptive and unique. |
| 16:30.18 | Daedals | oh :D |
| 16:30.27 | Daedals | thanks Mery I didnt notice that argument |
| 16:30.59 | Stefanos | but its a something it should declare when frame is loaded |
| 16:31.04 | Stefanos | so it should be named to the frame right |
| 16:32.15 | Aznamir | no |
| 16:32.20 | Aznamir | not necessary |
| 16:32.40 | Stefanos | but if i name it just GMSET_OnLoad it wont start when the frame is loaded |
| 16:32.42 | Stefanos | will it? |
| 16:33.05 | alestane | It will if you call it in your frame's <OnLoad> script element. |
| 16:33.06 | cbreak | the name is just a name |
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| 16:33.13 | Aznamir | in the .xml you tell what function will be called when a frame loads using <onload> |
| 16:33.15 | cbreak | you could call it DFPOIJAQPOIFJQPFOIJQP and it would work just as well |
| 16:33.22 | Aznamir | and you can call any function there |
| 16:33.28 | Shirik | please don't |
| 16:33.45 | Shirik | I prefer not to read code where I can't even read the function name much less pronounce it :P |
| 16:34.08 | foxlit | okay, new evil plan to upset Shirik |
| 16:34.14 | Shirik | no |
| 16:34.22 | foxlit | From now all, all my functions will be case-variations of HighlyPronouncableFunctionName |
| 16:34.27 | Shirik | hahaha |
| 16:35.11 | cbreak | you could use uuidgen to generate function names that are unique |
| 16:36.05 | Stefanos | arg, im fuckin confused. |
| 16:36.10 | Stefanos | lol xd |
| 16:36.13 | Daedals | http://pastebin.com/d70f6ca3a its still on top of it :P |
| 16:36.55 | Aznamir | Stefanos, your function names must be unique across all mods, that's why people usually name them MODNAME_FunctionName |
| 16:36.59 | zenzelezz | Shirik only writes code like "function lolwut(orly, yarly) epicfail(); end" |
| 16:37.14 | Aznamir | and FunctionName is entirely up to you |
| 16:37.40 | Daedals | woot works now nvm |
| 16:38.02 | Fisker- | i love you Shirik |
| 16:38.06 | Stefanos | http://www.pastebin.ca/1089877 cn u tell me why uit doesnt notice th slash command and i cna use the /gms1 i configured /gmst1 doesnt work neither |
| 16:38.47 | Aznamir | Anyway, who can help me with SecureStateHeaderTemplate replacement for WotLK? ;) |
| 16:39.56 | cbreak | Stefanos: post your xml and toc file too. |
| 16:40.07 | Stefanos | ok |
| 16:40.10 | cbreak | Stefanos: you also define two functions with the same name |
| 16:40.13 | foxlit | Tremble, Aznamir, and despair, for RestrictedEnvironment has come to your world. |
| 16:40.16 | cbreak | what do you expect lua to do with them? |
| 16:40.39 | Aznamir | *trembles8 |
| 16:40.52 | foxlit | Annoying |
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| 16:40.56 | alestane | Aznamir: What's up? |
| 16:41.03 | foxlit | I really should be looking at code jam solutions, yet I actually want to play Wrath |
| 16:41.06 | Aznamir | Wel, that's for my PallyPower |
| 16:41.41 | foxlit | You know, you could probably axe some functionality from PallyPower and have it work flawlessly in 3.0 |
| 16:41.56 | Aznamir | I had a header frame, X child frames that changed state on mouseover and X*Y child frames that used to show depending on what state is set. |
| 16:41.58 | foxlit | The actual complex stuff hasn't changed, it's just that we abuse SecureStateHeader to make things hidable while in combat |
| 16:41.59 | Stefanos | I want it to show and hide my addon |
| 16:42.10 | Stefanos | with /gms1 = show /gmst1 = hide |
| 16:42.14 | cbreak | so? |
| 16:42.16 | Stefanos | thats just exmaple might have been other way around in lua |
| 16:42.21 | cbreak | you can't define two functions with the same way... |
| 16:42.24 | Stefanos | So its not working the /gms1 arent found |
| 16:42.28 | Stefanos | eh lol? ok ? |
| 16:42.43 | cbreak | lol? it's sort of obvious |
| 16:43.01 | Stefanos | not rly to me |
| 16:43.11 | cbreak | myFunc = function () do something end; |
| 16:43.16 | Aznamir | Well, I guess I can remove all show/hide stuff, but then PallyPower would take the entire screen.. not what I want it to do |
| 16:43.23 | cbreak | myFunc = function () do something else end |
| 16:43.29 | cbreak | what does myFunc() do? |
| 16:43.38 | Stefanos | eh not sure :P |
| 16:43.58 | cbreak | hint? the second function definition overwrote the first. |
| 16:44.09 | alestane | Aznamir: You should be able to maintain that functionality. |
| 16:45.03 | alestane | You'll be using SecureHandlerEnterLeaveTemplate in all likelihood. |
| 16:45.05 | Aznamir | Here's the picture http://media.curse.com/adjust_images/resize/750x500/105/766.jpg of the casting frames |
| 16:46.25 | Aznamir | Yes, I used Secured AnchorEnterTemplate on X buttons, yeah.. |
| 16:46.26 | foxlit | "You should be able to maintain that functionality" |
| 16:46.34 | foxlit | alestane: what functionality won't someone be able to maintain? |
| 16:46.45 | Stefanos | What way u recommend of doing a show / hide thing? |
| 16:46.58 | Stefanos | u think buttons are to late cause i cant load the proj in addon studio anymore |
| 16:47.23 | alestane | I'm not aware of anything that's actually being sacrificed; the whole point of the rewrite was to expand what secure handlers are capable of doing. |
| 16:47.30 | Aznamir | alestane: is there anything I can read to figure out what I need to change? |
| 16:47.52 | alestane | Aznamir: Sadly, the one thing we've been slowest on is documentation. |
| 16:48.03 | cbreak | Stefanos: you should learn to program first. You can NOT define two functions with the same name and expect it to work |
| 16:48.12 | cbreak | you probably have lots of that kind of bugs in your code |
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| 16:48.38 | cbreak | what's addon studio? |
| 16:48.50 | alestane | The mechanisms were evolving very rapidly for a while, and we're finally stabilizing the interface to the point where we can document things without expecting that they'll be completely different in a week. |
| 16:48.50 | cbreak | vim should be enough for everybody :D |
| 16:48.58 | Stefanos | lol |
| 16:49.40 | alestane | Aznamir: Do I understand that each child frame reveals a number of other buttons when you mouse over it? |
| 16:49.47 | Aznamir | yes |
| 16:50.09 | Aznamir | used cButton:SetAttribute("newstate", tostring(cbNum)) on X buttons and |
| 16:50.17 | alestane | Does it change any of the other children or their menus, or is each one independent? |
| 16:50.37 | Stefanos | http://www.pastebin.ca/1089900 should work though owuldnt it? |
| 16:50.46 | Gnarfoz | http://thebogles.com/blog/2007/09/content-aware-image-sizing/ < wow :D |
| 16:50.50 | cbreak | Stefanos: also, read the slash command guide again, you're doing not the right thing |
| 16:51.23 | Aznamir | No, mouse over on X1 shows Y1 childs for X1, mouse over on X2 shows Y2 childs for X2 |
| 16:51.31 | cbreak | here: http://www.wowwiki.com/Creating_a_slash_command |
| 16:51.35 | alestane | So they're independent of each other. |
| 16:51.43 | Aznamir | and childs used to collapse after few seconds |
| 16:51.54 | alestane | You won't even need a master state header any more then. |
| 16:52.15 | cbreak | and please, also read the API documentation of the functions you use, you don't call Hide correctly |
| 16:52.21 | alestane | I do something like that in Demonomicon, which I just updated for 3.0. |
| 16:52.32 | Aznamir | so I can just get rid of that header frame... yeah, I expected that |
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| 16:52.47 | alestane | Do the X buttons do anything when clicked? |
| 16:52.49 | Aznamir | well, PallyPower is much similar to Autobar with all the popup buttons |
| 16:53.00 | alestane | Or are they just revealers? |
| 16:53.21 | Aznamir | X button used to call a function to determine a spell on _PreClick event and used to set a spell name and target |
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| 16:53.33 | Aznamir | Y buttons always had the same target and spell |
| 16:53.47 | Stefanos | cbreak thats how some1 here sayed i was supposed to do so though |
| 16:53.52 | cbreak | no |
| 16:53.58 | cbreak | you don't read what people write :/ |
| 16:54.23 | cbreak | f:Hide() is the same thing as f.Hide(f), which is the same thing as f["Hide"](f) |
| 16:54.41 | Stefanos | GMSET_Frame1:Hide() |
| 16:54.45 | Stefanos | should work says Api |
| 16:54.49 | cbreak | yes |
| 16:55.02 | cbreak | you use GMSET_Frame1:Hide(SLS_GMSET), which is wrong. |
| 16:55.14 | cbreak | (not that it matters, you have many more problems) |
| 16:55.38 | alestane | Aznamir: The X buttons will probably want to co-inherit then, from SecureActionButtonTemplate (which is changing very little), and SecureHandlerEnterLeaveTemplate. |
| 16:55.41 | Aznamir | both X and Y buttons used to cast spells, X buttons had some automation for out of combat buffing |
| 16:56.15 | alestane | You'll still provide that with your own preclick script then. |
| 16:56.54 | Aznamir | all right, i'm gonna try that tonight |
| 16:57.11 | Stefanos | 1 last question http://www.pastebin.ca/1089907 is that a solution for the 2 same function thingy? |
| 16:58.09 | alestane | Basically, you'll make a button with the SecureHandlerEnterLeaveTemplate, and an "_onenter" attribute. |
| 16:58.11 | cbreak | no! |
| 16:58.25 | Stefanos | o.O |
| 16:58.31 | cbreak | that's not even valid code |
| 16:58.36 | cbreak | and the names are totally wrong |
| 16:59.04 | Stefanos | thats like stupid cuz i took it from the wiki.. its like it should be acoording to them |
| 16:59.10 | cbreak | no... |
| 16:59.19 | cbreak | read the wiki, don't copy it :) |
| 16:59.44 | alestane | Aznamir: The "_onenter" attribute will be a string of function body code, which will say something like [[return "Open"]]. |
| 16:59.48 | Stefanos | o.O omfg, if that is how they tell me to do it.. |
| 17:00.21 | |pez| | You're supposed to use the wikistuff as an example, not blatantly copy from it. |
| 17:00.38 | Stefanos | Well if thats supposed how to do it |
| 17:00.39 | cbreak | Stefanos, how do you think Lua is supposed to know that ADDONNAME is meant to be GMSET? |
| 17:00.42 | Stefanos | then why aint it workin? |
| 17:00.52 | Stefanos | no i wanst done editting yet |
| 17:00.58 | Stefanos | but thats why i asked u |
| 17:01.03 | Seerah | the wiki has no clue what your addon is or what you want to do with it |
| 17:01.04 | alestane | Aznamir: Then each of the Y buttons will have a "_childupdate-Open" attribute, which will say something like [[self:Show()]] |
| 17:01.05 | Stefanos | if its not oging to work no need to make it right |
| 17:01.43 | |pez| | I'm assuming more stuff needs to be edited before we'll know if it works. :P |
| 17:02.05 | cbreak | you need to understand scoping and naming. |
| 17:02.23 | cbreak | you write two different things to SLASH_ADDONNAME1, so the second time will overwrite the first |
| 17:02.59 | Aznamir | alestane: how do I link child buttons to parent button? |
| 17:03.18 | alestane | Aznamir: Make them children. |
| 17:03.48 | Aznamir | X:SetAttribute("addchild", Y) ? |
| 17:03.56 | cbreak | Stefanos: It's not working because your code is wrong. It won't work as long as there is anything wrong with it. |
| 17:04.24 | alestane | Aznamir: Y:SetParent(X). |
| 17:05.11 | alestane | If you also want the header to react to a child being clicked, then X:SetAttribute("_adopt", Y) |
| 17:05.22 | Kirov | cbreak - bigger issue is understanding what SLASH_ variables actually are. |
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| 17:05.49 | cbreak | It should work without understanding that, as long as they are used correctly. |
| 17:05.58 | Aznamir | all right |
| 17:06.05 | alestane | Stefanos: Here's an example with some corrections: http://www.pastebin.ca/1089913 |
| 17:06.11 | Stefanos | thx |
| 17:07.30 | cbreak | I wonder if blizzard's shash handler iterate over the whole global space to find the commands... |
| 17:07.44 | alestane | cbreak: no. |
| 17:08.13 | Aznamir | alestane: Thank you. I may come back to haunt you if that does not work :) |
| 17:08.17 | alestane | It iterates over SlashCmdList. |
| 17:08.28 | cbreak | ... I guess that's a bit better |
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| 17:08.35 | alestane | Aznamir: It's changing some next week, and I'm afraid I'll be out of town. |
| 17:09.24 | Stefanos | eh ok |
| 17:09.33 | cbreak | I would have made a table like { ["/slashcommand"] = function (msg) --[[blabla]] end;} |
| 17:10.08 | alestane | cbreak: It builds a hashtable like that as it finds commands. |
| 17:10.16 | Kirov | http://wowcompares.com/2438606/FrameXML/ChatFrame.lua - search for "SLASH_" |
| 17:10.36 | Kirov | It's slow, but it works. |
| 17:10.55 | alestane | And it only looks the long way the first time you use a given command. |
| 17:11.26 | cbreak | hmm... Why not store the commands like that to begin with? |
| 17:11.31 | cbreak | ah well.. .) |
| 17:11.38 | Stefanos | im so confused im quitting it up i need to reinstall vista cause i dont have any fucking sound |
| 17:11.40 | alestane | cbreak: localization. |
| 17:11.44 | Stefanos | thx for help all! |
| 17:11.56 | cbreak | vista... :/ good luck :) |
| 17:12.00 | Stefanos | yeah i know |
| 17:12.02 | Stefanos | fucked up drivers |
| 17:12.09 | Stefanos | and it fucked up my erecovery program |
| 17:12.10 | cbreak | slash commands should not be localized imho. |
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| 17:12.12 | alestane | It's easier to translate the /commands for users who want different languages when they're stored in this format. |
| 17:12.14 | Stefanos | with that program it costed me 5 minutes |
| 17:12.16 | Stefanos | now it costs me 5 hours |
| 17:12.20 | Stefanos | to burn my system to dvd |
| 17:12.24 | Stefanos | Cya all |
| 17:13.23 | Aznamir | alestane: forgot to ask, how can I hide child frames after few seconds |
| 17:13.55 | alestane | When you type in a /command, first the system checks hash_SlashCmdList["/command"] to see if there's a function there. |
| 17:14.00 | alestane | Aznamir: One sec. |
| 17:14.26 | Aznamir | I need to reset a timer if someone clicks on a frame that belongs to the same parent and hide them when another parent opens their child frames |
| 17:14.56 | alestane | If it doesn't find it, it looks through the keys in SlashCmdList, and checks SLASH_key1, SLASH_key2, until it nfids a nil or a match, then it goes on to the next key. |
| 17:16.19 | alestane | If it goes through the whole list without finding one, you get the "type help" message. But if it does find one, it stores hash_SlashCmdList["/command"] = SlashCmdList["Found_key"] and executes it, so it won't have to do the whole lookup next time you type it. |
| 17:16.52 | cbreak | I still don't think that localisation is a good idea |
| 17:17.05 | alestane | Aznamir: In that case, your "_onenter" attribute should [[return "Open", true]] (the second argument requests being updated on the next frame. |
| 17:17.32 | cbreak | commands should be the same no matter what language is used. |
| 17:17.41 | alestane | cbreak: So french players should "/cast" everything, because the game programmers spoke English? |
| 17:17.50 | cbreak | yes. |
| 17:17.56 | alestane | ~fail cbreak |
| 17:17.56 | purl | cbreak: FAIL! |
| 17:18.04 | cbreak | ? |
| 17:18.29 | alestane | WoW would not have the worldwide audience it does if it required all interactions to be in English. |
| 17:18.39 | cbreak | not interactions, commands |
| 17:18.47 | alestane | Same deal. |
| 17:19.13 | Drundia | aren't all english commands present in all locales? |
| 17:19.24 | alestane | Drundia: They might be. |
| 17:19.34 | cbreak | frame:Verstecken() looks stupid. |
| 17:19.38 | alestane | But localized aliases don't hurt anything. |
| 17:19.45 | alestane | cbreak: They don't localize the Lua. |
| 17:19.49 | cbreak | exactly |
| 17:19.55 | Drundia | because in english each slack command appears to be present twice in SLASH_key# vars |
| 17:19.58 | alestane | But macros are localizable. |
| 17:20.12 | Drundia | s/slack/slash |
| 17:20.12 | cbreak | it's bad for portability |
| 17:20.18 | Drundia | meh, ending /... |
| 17:21.00 | cladhaire | so can i say, that I think one of the coolest things in the world is the props they make up for movie. For example, the notebook and diaries that they make so the characters can flip through them. Such a cool job, because they're so well done! |
| 17:21.29 | alestane | Right, add-on authors get to write everything in English. But a french user can type /assiste into the chat line, and it might list the help info, or it might target your target's target. |
| 17:21.57 | alestane | Depending on what was considered the better trranslation. |
| 17:22.31 | cbreak | probably /aidé or something like that |
| 17:22.44 | cbreak | (maybe with more accents :) |
| 17:22.58 | Vilkku | wtf. |
| 17:23.06 | cbreak | I still don't think that a programming language should be translated |
| 17:23.11 | alestane | The variable names inside the Lua implementation are still in English (SLASH_CAST1), but they can contain localized commands. |
| 17:23.30 | Vilkku | now when I open firefox it's just blank (as opposed to going to my home page) and all my bookmarks are gone - I can't restore them from html file either, nothing happens when I do that |
| 17:23.33 | Vilkku | what gives? |
| 17:23.37 | cbreak | the macro language is a type of programming language |
| 17:23.52 | cbreak | Vilkku: different profile? deleted profile? |
| 17:23.53 | Drundia | the worst case is russian excel (and similar stuff) with most functions translated, switching between keyboard layouts all the time ftl |
| 17:24.02 | cbreak | did you start a second firefox instance while the first was already lockd? |
| 17:24.12 | Vilkku | cbreak: it froze, shut it down, opened again and problem is there |
| 17:24.35 | cbreak | [Gates Voice] Reboot might fix it |
| 17:24.53 | cbreak | (probably not) |
| 17:25.13 | cbreak | you can look in your profile if the data is still there |
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| 17:25.22 | Vilkku | it is |
| 17:25.43 | Vilkku | when I press the home button it goes to the correct page, but it doesn't load it at startup |
| 17:25.54 | cbreak | maybe the settings are corrupt? |
| 17:26.15 | Aznamir | Drundia: Russian WoW localization is funny :) |
| 17:26.19 | cbreak | beta isn't that great. Frost talents are still bugged :( |
| 17:26.30 | devXero | hey, anyone know how to get the merchant item cost, if the cost is an item? for example "Badge of Justice", the price just returns 0 w/ GetMerchantItemInfo() |
| 17:26.40 | Daedals | maybe, but I have nothing else to do atm |
| 17:26.54 | devXero | beta is ok... cbreak that's why they call it beta :P |
| 17:27.03 | cbreak | it's worse than alpha |
| 17:27.09 | Daedals | good |
| 17:27.11 | cbreak | at least back then the talents worked :) |
| 17:27.12 | devXero | still lots of time before it's released |
| 17:27.20 | Daedals | but it's still wotlk |
| 17:27.35 | cbreak | devXero: I think merchant price is only available if you have a merchant window open |
| 17:27.36 | Daedals | if it crashes I don't care, I still crash in Northrend |
| 17:28.07 | Daedals | omg blizz is slooooooooow on these things |
| 17:28.17 | cbreak | A few days ago I fought a horde of Cubes with blue Checkerboard pattern texture. |
| 17:28.24 | Lopeppeppy | That's why it's beta, Daedals |
| 17:28.25 | Daedals | nice |
| 17:28.28 | Drundia | russian globalstrings.lua, linebreaks removed on purpose, theory confirmed: SLASH_CAST1 = "/закл"; SLASH_CAST2 = "/заклинание"; SLASH_CAST3 = "/cast"; SLASH_CAST4 = "/spell"; |
| 17:28.34 | devXero | cbreak: the merchant window is open |
| 17:28.53 | Drundia | Aznamir, too bad they don't let russian client to english realms :( |
| 17:29.13 | Daedals | Lopeppeppy I meant slow with beta kays |
| 17:29.24 | Daedals | keys* |
| 17:29.47 | Lopeppeppy | It's still beta, Daedals. Whether you're talking about graphics still in progress, quest ines not finished, or an extended invite period. Beta. |
| 17:30.02 | Daedals | wtf I didnt talk about anything like that |
| 17:30.03 | Aznamir | Is Gadget still translated as ÐÑибамбаÑÑк ? |
| 17:30.29 | Vilkku | speaking of bete, wtf is taking blizz so long with the author keys :P |
| 17:30.29 | cbreak | that doesn't look pronouncable. |
| 17:30.38 | Drundia | i'd tell you if they let me log into english realms with russian client... |
| 17:30.45 | Daedals | I just said that WoWinterface sent the email batch to blizz on monday I think, and I still havent got one |
| 17:31.29 | Vilkku | I'm at a lan party atm, for 2 more days, would be great if I could showoff some wotlk |
| 17:31.32 | Vilkku | sk gaming is here |
| 17:31.36 | Vilkku | and showing it |
| 17:31.52 | Daedals | :D |
| 17:31.57 | alestane | Aznamir: There's some code I wrote that closes itself after a few minutes: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/92916 |
| 17:31.59 | Daedals | I think I've lost mine |
| 17:32.00 | Dashkal | Lopeppeppy: I forgot it at home :p |
| 17:32.01 | alestane | er, seconds. |
| 17:32.07 | devXero | so, no other ideas on how to record the item cost when the currency is another item? |
| 17:32.11 | Vilkku | from one thing to another, I googled my firefox problem and it actually seems like rebooting could fix something |
| 17:33.22 | foxlit | global environment is local, in that case? |
| 17:33.28 | Drundia | devXero, do the same as MerchantFrame while it is open maybe? |
| 17:33.38 | devXero | hmm |
| 17:35.00 | alestane | foxlit: Yes, that funciton will run in a private persistent environment. |
| 17:35.27 | Aznamir | alestane: thanks |
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| 17:36.11 | alestane | SecureHandlers.lua is the file that indicates what attributes might be called and what parameters they'll get. |
| 17:36.20 | Daedals | woot now I have a working damage meter :) |
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| 17:36.55 | malreth | what is this shit? http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB121755336096303089-lMyQjAxMDI4MTA3MTUwNTEzWj.html |
| 17:38.10 | alestane | The wonderful world of public perception. |
| 17:38.56 | Dashkal | malreth: Yeah... that was on the radio this morning... I'm in Canada. *blinks* why do I care about this? |
| 17:39.20 | cbreak | are americans that dumb? or only the vocal ones? |
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| 17:40.05 | Shirik | ""I won't vote for any beanpole guy," another Clinton supporter wrote last week on a Yahoo politics message board." |
| 17:40.07 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 17:40.11 | Vilkku | reboot helped |
| 17:40.11 | Shirik | cbreak: Hopefully not |
| 17:40.28 | Shirik | granted, i'm about 6'3" 120 or so, so.... I don't have much say in this argument |
| 17:40.46 | malreth | "I don't think Brad Pitt should be making movies. He's too fit and handsome for normal people to relate to." |
| 17:40.53 | Dashkal | 6'3" / 120? |
| 17:40.55 | malreth | it's a bullshit piece |
| 17:40.56 | alestane | Some people regard body weight as a moral indicator of sorts. |
| 17:40.59 | Dashkal | I'm... scared |
| 17:41.47 | malreth | Shirik's awesome, Dashkal. he's a mean machine that fights until he's burger. |
| 17:42.00 | Dashkal | I'm 6'0" / 190 and am considered to be of light/medium build... at 150 I was downright unhealthy. |
| 17:42.09 | Shirik | Dashkal: I'm very much underweight |
| 17:42.20 | Shirik | I'm also hyperthyroid, which is the majority of the reason for that |
| 17:42.28 | Dashkal | *nods* that would explain it |
| 17:42.47 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: |
| 17:43.00 | Shirik | (13:41:38) (nobin) that bug that we found was a portage design flaw |
| 17:43.00 | Shirik | (13:42:09) (Shirik) yey |
| 17:43.00 | Shirik | (13:42:09) (nobin) it is fixed in version 2.1.5 of portage |
| 17:43.00 | Shirik | (13:42:23) (nobin) which is the first masked version of portage right now |
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| 17:44.47 | Lunessa | station! |
| 17:44.58 | Lunessa | Hello to you my excellent friends! |
| 17:45.25 | Shirik | no hello 4u |
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| 17:50.05 | Esamynn | wow, talk about unholy black magic, I haven't seen a case of thread necromancy like that in a long time |
| 17:50.22 | alestane | Esamynn: The "Which Addons are getting banned" thread? |
| 17:50.33 | Lunessa | oh my lord... http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/ GENIUS! |
| 17:50.46 | Esamynn | haha, yup |
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| 17:51.20 | Shirik | lol |
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| 17:52.41 | Kaso | Without getting my hands dirty with coroutines its not possible to use os.execute in a asynchronous way is it? |
| 17:52.59 | Daedals | sneak peak: http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/1731/damagemeterai5.jpg |
| 17:53.21 | cbreak | Kaso: you can use os.execute("command &") |
| 17:53.33 | cbreak | but does WoW load the os library? |
| 17:53.49 | Slakah | no |
| 17:54.51 | Kaso | oh of course cbreak |
| 17:55.03 | Kaso | im using stand alone lua |
| 17:55.19 | Shirik | Kaso: You could use io.popen |
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| 17:55.45 | Kaso | ah yeah, that only blocks when you try to read the handle doesnt it |
| 17:55.54 | Shirik | read and nothing available, yeah |
| 17:55.59 | malreth | the ampersand makes the assumption that the os shell is unixy, yeah? |
| 17:56.02 | Shirik | os.execute("command &") would break portability |
| 17:56.19 | cbreak | yes |
| 17:56.19 | Kaso | that seems like the best idea, thanks |
| 17:56.40 | Shirik | keep in mind Lua does not define io.popen() for all OSes |
| 17:56.51 | Shirik | however I have not yet found an OS for which it does not define io.popen |
| 17:56.52 | cbreak | I use it for os.execute("say -v Victoria "..voiceText.." &"), so portability isn't there either :) |
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| 17:57.02 | Shirik | It just has the capability to not generate it in code :P |
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| 18:25.21 | Thunder_Child | gratz Lopeppeppy |
| 18:25.26 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 18:25.29 | cncfanatics | Lopeppeppy: gz :p |
| 18:25.34 | Lopeppeppy | Well, first one from being full time at least. :) |
| 18:26.54 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: Are you working for the same people as before? |
| 18:27.54 | Shirik | So Comcast is being penalized by the FCC for blocking the right to "open internet traffic" |
| 18:29.06 | Lopeppeppy | alestane: Yes, just as an official person now. |
| 18:29.07 | Esamynn | O Rly? |
| 18:29.17 | Lopeppeppy | And I'm totally withholding a ton to help pay for contractor taxes, ugh. |
| 18:30.05 | Shirik | "Tests by the Associated Press and others showed that Comcast blocked users legal peer-to-peer transmissions by sending fake signals that cut off the connection between file-sharers. Todays decision follows a months-long FCC investigation, launched in response to a complaint from Free Press and Public Knowledge urging the federal agency to stop Comcasts blocking." |
| 18:30.53 | Esamynn | ok, yah, that's going a tad far |
| 18:31.13 | Esamynn | well, more than a little |
| 18:32.44 | durcyn | TCP RST is serious business. |
| 18:32.44 | Thunder_Child | FCC cant do shit other that suggest though |
| 18:33.00 | Thunder_Child | than* |
| 18:33.02 | alestane | That's a case where Comcast might be able to make a case for their actions being legal, it being their network, but they can't really claim to be acting in good faith. |
| 18:33.43 | Shirik | they already tried that :P |
| 18:33.54 | alestane | Although there's probably some clause in their terms of service about not operating a server or file sharing setup using "the Service". |
| 18:33.56 | Shirik | they said it was to block "excessive traffic" for the purposes of "network management" |
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| 18:34.28 | Shirik | I'm not entirely sure what this means, it doesn't go into detail, but here's what the FCC is doing: "In a landmark decision, FCC Chairman Kevin Martin and Commissioners Michael Copps and Jonathan Adelstein approved a bipartisan enforcement order that would require Comcast to stop blocking and publicly disclose its methods for manipulating Internet traffic." |
| 18:35.42 | Shirik | this was decided literally an hour ago so I don't see many news articles about it yet :/ |
| 18:36.04 | Gnarfoz | why is premiere not capable of compressing video as xvid >:( |
| 18:36.26 | Esamynn | wow, today's wow comic contest honorable mention is.... HORRIBLE! |
| 18:36.30 | malreth | because only hippies use xvid. premier is for special people. |
| 18:36.36 | Esamynn | Gnarfoz: because it hates you |
| 18:36.57 | Gnarfoz | malreth: hippies would use quicktime? >_> |
| 18:37.22 | malreth | no... artsies use quicktime. they spit on xvid. |
| 18:38.20 | Gnarfoz | malreth is an artsy |
| 18:38.26 | Lunessa | QT is love. |
| 18:38.37 | Gnarfoz | (no, it sucks quite a bit :p) |
| 18:38.40 | malreth | no, i just salivate excessively. |
| 18:39.15 | Gnarfoz | anyway, gimme widespread deployment of high-level mpeg4 decoders :( like, x264 or something |
| 18:39.42 | Lunessa | QT, XVid, WMF - I don't much fucking care actually - just as long as my internet pr0n plays. |
| 18:39.47 | malreth | Hi, Lopeppeppy! *a mouthful of saliva spills out* |
| 18:40.31 | Gnarfoz | Lunessa: flash players take care of codec issues for you in that department anyway |
| 18:40.46 | Lunessa | Gnarfoz: Indeed - mostly. :) |
| 18:41.16 | Gnarfoz | I gotta read up on how those work... vimeo's quality for one is awesome, but they recently disallowed gaming videos |
| 18:42.02 | hipjipp | Can anyone help me with if it's possible to trunkate some fixed text? please pm me |
| 18:42.10 | Daedals | omg someone sold his beta key for $1021 in ebay :o |
| 18:42.41 | cladhaire | did it include his tyrael key? |
| 18:43.04 | Daedals | and usually for $300-600 omg |
| 18:43.12 | malreth | hipjipp: did you read the lua manual? |
| 18:43.23 | Daedals | but only for blizzcon keys |
| 18:43.35 | Daedals | because the keys addon authors get cant be sold |
| 18:43.40 | Gnarfoz | if I was assured an amount like that, I'd do that too, if I had a spare key ;D |
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| 18:43.53 | Gnarfoz | Daedals: how do you figure that? |
| 18:43.54 | Daedals | blizzcon & WWI * |
| 18:44.02 | Daedals | http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=200548 |
| 18:44.03 | Shirik | AH! |
| 18:44.04 | Shirik | CNN has it up |
| 18:44.10 | Shirik | http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/biztech/08/01/fcc.comcast.ap/index.html |
| 18:44.26 | hipjipp | malreth: i know you can trunkate text into a specific ammount, but im not sure if it's possible in my mod ( http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9132-1.2.html ). |
| 18:44.29 | Gnarfoz | haha funny how those $1k are ~650⬠|
| 18:44.59 | Daedals | yea the dollar is low against euro nowadays |
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| 18:46.02 | malreth | hipjipp: you have a string, you call string.sub(). how is there a problem? |
| 18:48.26 | hipjipp | malreth: so i do "track_text:SetText(string.sub(12)text)"? i'm not very good, but i'm trying |
| 18:48.44 | malreth | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-string.sub |
| 18:49.04 | malreth | almost correct |
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| 18:52.16 | Lunessa | Wow, and I gave away extra keys. |
| 18:52.39 | malreth | Lunessa: BROTHER! |
| 18:53.04 | Lunessa | malreth: I iz all out, but I haz a list if I getz maor |
| 18:53.05 | malreth | hipjipp: figure it out yet? |
| 18:53.18 | hipjipp | malreth: care to help me a little more than the manual? i couldn't figure it out |
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| 18:53.30 | hipjipp | might just be me though.. :< |
| 18:54.00 | malreth | string.sub(s, i, j) s is the string, i is where you want to start, j is where you want to end |
| 18:54.13 | alestane | Or s:(i,j) |
| 18:54.32 | alestane | rather, s:sub(i,j) |
| 18:54.32 | malreth | lua> string.sub("bill clinton", 3, 8) |
| 18:54.32 | lua_bot | malreth: ll cli |
| 18:54.55 | hipjipp | malreth: so i could do "track_text:SetText(string.sub(text, 12))"? |
| 18:54.59 | malreth | see how that snipped out a chunk of the string? |
| 18:55.02 | Industrial | Anyone got their key yet |
| 18:55.16 | Industrial | didnt take this long with tbc |
| 18:55.22 | Industrial | <_<\ |
| 18:55.32 | Thunder_Child | ok |
| 18:55.35 | Thunder_Child | mt |
| 18:55.43 | hipjipp | lua> string.sub("Class Trainer", 12) |
| 18:55.44 | lua_bot | hipjipp: er |
| 18:55.44 | Dashkal | Nope |
| 18:55.59 | malreth | hipjipp: you're starting to understand |
| 18:56.14 | malreth | see how it's *starting* on the 12th character? |
| 18:56.36 | hipjipp | hm.. yes.. so i should do it like this.. |
| 18:56.49 | hipjipp | lua> string.sub("Class Trainer", 1, 12) |
| 18:56.50 | lua_bot | hipjipp: Class Traine |
| 18:57.12 | hipjipp | lua> string.sub("Proffessions Trainer", 1, 12) |
| 18:57.12 | lua_bot | hipjipp: Proffessions |
| 18:57.15 | malreth | well butter your ass and call you a biscuit! |
| 18:57.23 | Shirik|AFK | please don't |
| 18:57.33 | hipjipp | hehe.. thanks alot malreth! |
| 18:57.34 | Shirik|AFK | okay malreth! Now teach him metatables! |
| 18:57.45 | Shirik|AFK | ("Proffessions Trainer"):sub(1,12) |
| 18:57.48 | Shirik|AFK | lua> ("Proffessions Trainer"):sub(1,12) |
| 18:57.48 | lua_bot | Shirik|AFK: Proffessions |
| 18:57.49 | Shirik|AFK | gogo |
| 18:57.49 | malreth | Shirik|AFK: oh fuck no |
| 18:57.52 | Shirik|AFK | gogogo |
| 18:58.03 | Shirik|AFK | even better |
| 18:58.09 | ckknight | how heavy are coroutines in wow? |
| 18:58.11 | Shirik|AFK | lua> ("Proffessions Trainer").sub("Class Trainer", 1,12) |
| 18:58.12 | lua_bot | Shirik|AFK: Class Traine |
| 18:58.23 | Shirik|AFK | ^ just to mess with someone's brain |
| 18:58.24 | cladhaire | ckknight: they're extremely light, but heavier than tables or functions |
| 18:58.32 | ckknight | hrm... |
| 18:58.39 | cladhaire | lua> for i=1,1e5 do _G[1] = {}; print(gcinfo()) |
| 18:58.39 | lua_bot | cladhaire: luabot:1: 'end' expected near '<eof>' |
| 18:58.44 | malreth | lua> ("Professions Trainer"):sub(1,11).."â¦" |
| 18:58.44 | lua_bot | malreth: Professions⦠|
| 18:58.51 | cladhaire | lua> for i=1,1e5 do _G[1] = {}; end print(collectgarbage("count")) |
| 18:58.52 | lua_bot | cladhaire: 382.65234375 |
| 18:58.56 | cladhaire | lua> for i=1,1e5 do _G[1] = function() end; end print(collectgarbage("count")) |
| 18:58.56 | lua_bot | cladhaire: 327.4921875 |
| 18:59.03 | cladhaire | lua> for i=1,1e5 do _G[1] = coroutine.create(function() end)); end print(collectgarbage("count")) |
| 18:59.04 | lua_bot | cladhaire: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near ')' |
| 18:59.06 | cladhaire | lua> for i=1,1e5 do _G[1] = coroutine.create(function() end); end print(collectgarbage("count")) |
| 18:59.07 | lua_bot | cladhaire: 335.892578125 |
| 18:59.14 | cladhaire | lighter than I thought :P |
| 18:59.25 | Shirik|AFK | that's also creating a new function on each one too :/ |
| 18:59.27 | ckknight | lighter than tables, heavier than functions? |
| 18:59.34 | cladhaire | seems that way |
| 18:59.48 | ckknight | cladhaire: wait, should you turn off the gc beforehand, to make sure that it doesn't gc? |
| 18:59.58 | cladhaire | its a new process each time |
| 19:00.03 | cladhaire | so its fresh |
| 19:00.06 | cladhaire | but yes |
| 19:00.07 | ckknight | okay |
| 19:00.12 | cladhaire | well, i'm storing references to each |
| 19:00.17 | Shirik|AFK | lua> function quotize(...) return '"'.......'"' end return quotize("foo") |
| 19:00.17 | lua_bot | Shirik|AFK: luabot:1: 'end' expected near '...' |
| 19:00.23 | cladhaire | so they can't be collected |
| 19:00.23 | Shirik|AFK | aww |
| 19:00.23 | Shirik|AFK | can't do that |
| 19:00.29 | Shirik|AFK | lua> function quotize(...) return '"'.. ... ..'"' end return quotize("foo") |
| 19:00.29 | lua_bot | Shirik|AFK: "foo" |
| 19:00.43 | lua_bot | Shirik shirik == nub |
| 19:01.08 | Shirik|AFK | If you could do ....... I totally would put that somewhere in my code |
| 19:01.25 | ckknight | cladhaire: actually, you did _G[1], not _G[i] |
| 19:01.27 | cladhaire | as in really really really vararg? |
| 19:01.33 | Shirik|AFK | no |
| 19:01.35 | cladhaire | oh then fix it |
| 19:01.37 | Shirik|AFK | concat vararg |
| 19:01.39 | ckknight | lua> for i=1,1e5 do _G[i] = coroutine.create(function() end); end print(collectgarbage("count")) |
| 19:01.40 | lua_bot | ckknight: not enough memory |
| 19:01.42 | Shirik|AFK | ".. ... .." without spaces |
| 19:01.44 | ckknight | yea... |
| 19:01.47 | ckknight | it gc'd |
| 19:01.51 | cladhaire | you're right, typo :P |
| 19:02.05 | ckknight | lua> for i=1,1e5 do _G[i] = function() end; end print(collectgarbage("count")) |
| 19:02.05 | lua_bot | ckknight: not enough memory |
| 19:02.09 | ckknight | bah |
| 19:02.15 | cladhaire | lol |
| 19:02.17 | cladhaire | much heavier :P |
| 19:02.38 | ckknight | okay, yea, a lot heavier |
| 19:02.40 | cladhaire | to be fair, part of that is the function itself |
| 19:03.04 | hipjipp | lua> track_text:SetText("Proffessions Trainer"):sub(1, 12)) |
| 19:03.04 | lua_bot | hipjipp: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near ')' |
| 19:03.12 | hipjipp | lua> track_text:SetText("Proffessions Trainer"):sub(1, 12) |
| 19:03.13 | lua_bot | hipjipp: luabot:1: attempt to index global 'track_text' (a nil value) |
| 19:03.16 | ckknight | locally tested, 3513.3916015625 vs. 85544.688476562 |
| 19:03.30 | Shirik|AFK | coroutine.create(function() end) isn't really fair though |
| 19:03.32 | hipjipp | simple mistakes |
| 19:03.41 | Shirik|AFK | will you really be making a new function every time you create the coroutine? |
| 19:03.55 | malreth | hipjipp: the lua bot doesn't know about track_text or SetText |
| 19:04.14 | cladhaire | probably not no |
| 19:04.20 | cladhaire | shoudl test using the same function |
| 19:04.35 | hipjipp | malreth: the first one is a local, but why doesn't it know about SetText? |
| 19:04.45 | Shirik|AFK | because SetText does not exist in Lua |
| 19:04.53 | Shirik|AFK | it exists in WoW |
| 19:05.06 | hipjipp | Shirik: ah, that helps :P |
| 19:06.20 | malreth | lua> text="Ronald Regan" print(text:sub(1, 6)) |
| 19:06.21 | lua_bot | malreth: Ronald |
| 19:07.00 | Gnarfoz | don't you know your presidents? :> |
| 19:07.29 | malreth | Gnarfoz: only the cool ones |
| 19:07.45 | Gnarfoz | hah pff ;p |
| 19:08.00 | Gnarfoz | rsizr.com is awesometastic |
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| 19:15.22 | Daedals | must go and get the client lulz |
| 19:15.27 | malreth | Gnarfoz: ah. i read about that algorithm... the web interface is pretty slick |
| 19:15.37 | malreth | Gnarfoz: http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?image=05e2120dc4us4.jpg |
| 19:15.50 | Pneumatus | can't wait for the level cap to be raised :> |
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| 19:16.30 | Gnarfoz | malreth: too bad rsizr can't do what they do at the end of the SIGGRAPH video :\ http://www.faculty.idc.ac.il/arik/IMRet-All.mov |
| 19:16.30 | Guest193 | Why arn't the addons working? |
| 19:16.47 | malreth | Guest193: my addons work |
| 19:16.52 | Lopeppeppy | What addons, where, and how? |
| 19:17.05 | Thunder_Child | Guest193, are you refering to cosmos perchance? |
| 19:17.09 | Guest193 | i had to reinstall wow and then this web didnt work so i had to wait and now it does |
| 19:17.13 | Guest193 | but under add ons there none |
| 19:17.25 | Guest193 | and under download there not the file to download them all |
| 19:17.58 | malreth | the cosmos site is fubared |
| 19:17.59 | Lopeppeppy | If you re-installed wow you have to properly download and install addons. New computer? Vista? |
| 19:18.16 | Guest193 | yes |
| 19:18.17 | Guest193 | but |
| 19:18.22 | Guest193 | i had these addons from here on it |
| 19:18.26 | Guest193 | and had toreinstall |
| 19:18.32 | Guest193 | so took all my wow stuff off |
| 19:18.37 | Pneumatus | you had some addons from an irc channel? |
| 19:18.48 | malreth | yeah... until they fix the website, you won't be able to get the cosmos addons. |
| 19:18.58 | Guest193 | oh kk |
| 19:19.02 | malreth | Pneumatus: the cosmos people use our channel for their support, for some reason |
| 19:19.03 | Guest193 | when gonna be fixed? |
| 19:19.09 | Lopeppeppy | Ah. Thank you for the interpretation, malreth. |
| 19:19.12 | malreth | we don't know. we're not the cosmos people |
| 19:19.29 | malreth | you're welcome, punk |
| 19:19.31 | Lopeppeppy | Guest193, .... okay, I won't help you out, toodles. |
| 19:19.43 | Thunder_Child | yo laye Lopeppeppy |
| 19:19.49 | Thunder_Child | late* |
| 19:19.57 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. Oh wel. |
| 19:19.59 | Thunder_Child | to* |
| 19:20.01 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* |
| 19:20.03 | Pneumatus | i'm gonna make a wild stab in the dark that no comsmos people bother frequenting here either |
| 19:20.21 | malreth | well... there's that one guy |
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| 19:20.24 | malreth | ... |
| 19:20.28 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. |
| 19:20.29 | malreth | uh... what's his name |
| 19:20.39 | Lopeppeppy | Which is who told me the other day that the site was borked, so I did know, just from being here. |
| 19:21.02 | malreth | Cide... yeah, that guy. He does Cosmos. |
| 19:21.12 | Pneumatus | are cosmos addons hacked together to work, or are they just some generic collection of addons? |
| 19:21.15 | Lunessa | AnduinLothar; but no one else. |
| 19:21.43 | Pneumatus | i've gotta say, i've never been fond of the idea of a ui pack... im much happier picking my addons depending on what i need :) |
| 19:21.55 | malreth | Pneumatus: neither, really |
| 19:21.57 | Daedals | woot 1% downloaded |
| 19:22.24 | malreth | at least initially... i don't know if that's still the case |
| 19:22.27 | cladhaire | only 7 more mining points |
| 19:23.01 | malreth | but originally, it was a bunch of addons that the Cosmos team wrote that were meant to work together |
| 19:24.00 | malreth | most other compilations are done by no talent ass hacks that can't tell cheese apart from a rabbit |
| 19:25.11 | Pneumatus | iirc, they made a few really ancient libraries didnt they, back in the days of like 1.4, Sea and the suchlike |
| 19:25.45 | malreth | yeah |
| 19:25.53 | ckknight | I wish lua had continue |
| 19:26.01 | Pneumatus | me too, ckknight |
| 19:26.17 | Pneumatus | the amount of un-neccesary conditionals ive got because of it :< |
| 19:26.32 | ckknight | now I need an out-of-place if statement in a for loop |
| 19:26.37 | ckknight | that'd be a lot cleaner without it |
| 19:27.09 | malreth | ckknight: what have you got? |
| 19:27.13 | cladhaire | yes master |
| 19:27.23 | Pneumatus | loads of saronite in sholazar |
| 19:27.40 | ckknight | malreth: if frame.guid == currentGUID then continue end |
| 19:27.51 | Pneumatus | loads of everthing there on EU at least, due to there only being about a dozen people in the zone |
| 19:28.06 | Gnarfoz | btw |
| 19:28.18 | Gnarfoz | anyone in beta who can say for sure where you get Crystallized Fire? |
| 19:28.27 | malreth | what's the for-loop? |
| 19:28.47 | ckknight | malreth: frame.guid = currentGUID; frame:Update() |
| 19:29.44 | Pneumatus | Gnarfoz: Titanium nodes |
| 19:30.00 | Pneumatus | thats the only place ive ever heard/seen them drop |
| 19:30.03 | malreth | ckknight: i'm sorry. i'm not able to put 2 and 2 together here... and for some strange reason i'm trying to be extra helpful today |
| 19:30.08 | Pneumatus | ive had other crystallised stuff from elementals, but never fire |
| 19:30.14 | Gnarfoz | Pneumatus: hm, someone said that Titanium gives you Crystallised Life |
| 19:30.17 | malreth | gods, what's wrong with me? |
| 19:30.25 | malreth | am i still hung over? |
| 19:30.28 | Pneumatus | Titanium gives all the different crystalized motes |
| 19:30.40 | ckknight | malreth: http://wowi.pastey.net/92924 |
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| 19:32.44 | Islandir | hi |
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| 19:33.03 | malreth | ckknight: i think i gotcha now... |
| 19:33.31 | malreth | i did get plowed last night... friend and i were testing wine for the wedding |
| 19:34.33 | malreth | 1, 2, 3, 4... 5, 6 bottles of wine (several glasses from each, didn't finish any of those bottles) and 1 entire bottle of bubbly |
| 19:34.33 | Islandir | I am trying to do a mod for pvp and when I do hPoints = GetHonorCurrency() and local msg = string.format("Honor: %d", hPoints), the string has got 0 so it seems GetHonorCurrency() is returning 0 when the char I test it on has got 1049 honor points |
| 19:34.44 | Islandir | any idea ? |
| 19:35.12 | Pneumatus | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=37837 |
| 19:35.13 | Thunder_Child | malreth. you fail at wine tasting |
| 19:35.14 | Pneumatus | hahaha ^^ |
| 19:35.50 | malreth | you taste, you enjoy. how can you fail? |
| 19:36.09 | Thunder_Child | you get drunk |
| 19:36.12 | cladhaire | http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/08/01/ricole-nichie-lurks-in-the-worlds-end-tavern/ |
| 19:36.14 | cladhaire | that is too fun |
| 19:36.47 | malreth | it was a lot of wine... |
| 19:37.09 | Fisker- | eye of divinity is pretty easy to get |
| 19:37.11 | Lukian | Pneumatus, awww cute a cute icon :D |
| 19:37.17 | Islandir | so no idea on my pb ? |
| 19:37.43 | malreth | when are you calling GetHonorCurrency() |
| 19:37.53 | Pneumatus | same icon as the Hula Girl Doll |
| 19:38.03 | malreth | !api GetHonorCurrency |
| 19:38.03 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'GetHonorCurrency' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetHonorCurrency |
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| 19:40.01 | Pneumatus | jesus, wowinsider was a bit slow on the uptake about Ricole Nichie |
| 19:40.15 | Pneumatus | she's been known about for months o.O |
| 19:40.45 | cladhaire | s/Ricole Nichie/Everything/ |
| 19:40.46 | Islandir | I do it the first time a OnLoad time. This is my first mod so hehe. is OnLoad to early ? |
| 19:41.03 | Thunder_Child | s/everything/cladhaire/ |
| 19:41.09 | Islandir | I also do it at OnEvent based on the HONOR_CURRENCY_UPDATE |
| 19:41.19 | Islandir | but I have had not honor update so |
| 19:41.38 | malreth | Islandir: OnLoad may indeed be too early |
| 19:42.32 | cladhaire | PLAYER_LOGIN is the best time to do it, typically, if its not available when loading |
| 19:42.37 | Pneumatus | is wowprogramming.com complete, or as sketchy as wowwiki? |
| 19:42.40 | Islandir | ic |
| 19:42.53 | cladhaire | Pneumatus: its more complete than you'll find anywhere else. |
| 19:43.00 | Islandir | so that would be OnEvent with the event being PLAYER_LOGIN ? |
| 19:43.01 | cladhaire | as far as API goes |
| 19:43.07 | malreth | PLAYER_LOGIN or PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD? |
| 19:43.19 | Pneumatus | cool, i'm sick of wowwiki being either miles out of date, or missing stuff |
| 19:43.22 | cladhaire | malreth: PLAYER_LOGIN is the same as P_E_W, but only happens once when the player logs in |
| 19:43.33 | malreth | ah... kk |
| 19:43.41 | cladhaire | Pneumatus: well if you see any problems, let me know.. thats the same reference that appears in the book, so we keep it up to date |
| 19:44.04 | malreth | Pneumatus: if you see something miles out of date, fix it |
| 19:44.04 | Lunessa | Hahaha... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8557017150&sid=1 |
| 19:44.09 | malreth | it's a wiki, after all |
| 19:44.21 | cladhaire | indeed |
| 19:44.26 | cladhaire | if you were referring to wp |
| 19:44.29 | cladhaire | which is a wiki :P |
| 19:44.29 | Islandir | woot works like a charm |
| 19:44.37 | Islandir | Thanks cladhaire and malreth |
| 19:44.40 | cladhaire | np |
| 19:45.21 | Pneumatus | Lunessa: that thread is fail upon fail :> |
| 19:45.32 | Lunessa | And when I point it out... |
| 19:46.28 | malreth | it's you... the rocket man is you |
| 19:52.33 | Lunessa | And all the science I don't understand. It's just my job five days a week. |
| 19:53.02 | Thunder_Child | and the sixth day is for drunken revelry |
| 19:53.30 | malreth | I think it's gonna be a long long time.. |
| 19:54.01 | Lunessa | 'til touch-down brings me 'round a gain to find.. |
| 19:54.31 | Thunder_Child | didnt william shatner sing/say rocket man? |
| 19:54.49 | Thunder_Child | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVbv6r_tKnE ya |
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| 19:58.46 | Lunessa | Now the damned song is stuck in my head. |
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| 19:59.09 | p3lim | haste: ping |
| 19:59.20 | Lopeppeppy | Personal Jesus by Johnny Cash. |
| 19:59.30 | malreth | I prescribe the Girl Talk album as a fix for song-stuck-in-headness |
| 20:00.04 | Fisker- | malreth |
| 20:00.05 | Fisker- | iKill |
| 20:00.19 | malreth | no you don't |
| 20:00.25 | Lunessa | i'm sitting here in my office singing Rocket Man. This is not a pretty or inspirational sight. You will pay! YOU WILL PAY! |
| 20:01.09 | Thunder_Child | "Diablo health and mana stress balls" look we all get our own balls |
| 20:01.46 | Pneumatus | ooh, another beta patch tonight :> |
| 20:01.53 | ScytheBlade1 | http://virtuallyblind.com/2008/07/29/blizzard-seeks-permanent-injunction/ |
| 20:02.04 | ScytheBlade1 | "Asks Court to Prohibit Making Glider Open Source" |
| 20:02.16 | Thunder_Child | that would be bad |
| 20:02.27 | Thunder_Child | not because of glider, but because of the ramifications |
| 20:02.36 | Thunder_Child | for other software |
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| 20:02.58 | ScytheBlade1 | I've gotta admit though, looking at the glider source would be all sorts of entertaining. |
| 20:03.19 | Duman | hmm |
| 20:03.21 | Duman | new build |
| 20:03.33 | Duman | The beta realms will be going down at 1:00 PM PDT to apply an update. We anticipate approximately six hours of downtime. |
| 20:04.44 | cbreak|wow | what's the UTC offset of PDT? |
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| 20:05.06 | Thunder_Child | -8 |
| 20:05.25 | cbreak | thanks |
| 20:05.28 | Thunder_Child | err..or +8 maybe then |
| 20:05.38 | Thunder_Child | from UTC -> PDT it's -8 |
| 20:05.43 | Esamynn | wrong |
| 20:05.44 | Esamynn | -7 |
| 20:05.52 | Esamynn | PST is -8 |
| 20:05.54 | Thunder_Child | for pacific it's 8 |
| 20:06.02 | Esamynn | PST ~= PDT |
| 20:06.11 | Thunder_Child | standard / daylight? |
| 20:06.14 | Esamynn | aye |
| 20:06.23 | Thunder_Child | well it cant be 7 all the time |
| 20:06.29 | Thunder_Child | it chamges |
| 20:06.32 | Esamynn | it does |
| 20:06.36 | foxlit | oh yes it can :) |
| 20:06.46 | foxlit | UTC doesn't respect DST |
| 20:07.11 | Fisker- | It is 7 all the time Thunder_Child |
| 20:07.12 | Fisker- | duh |
| 20:07.17 | foxlit | PDT just has to be stable with respect to whether it follows DST or not |
| 20:07.19 | Esamynn | oh, yes, PDT is 7 all the time |
| 20:07.24 | Esamynn | PDT = PST + 1 |
| 20:07.34 | Esamynn | ALL THE TIME |
| 20:07.35 | foxlit | It's 1:07 now |
| 20:07.46 | Pneumatus | no timezone changes, ever, regions just observe different timezones for daylight savings |
| 20:07.46 | Fisker- | But who cares |
| 20:07.49 | Fisker- | it's on the EU forums |
| 20:07.53 | cladhaire | esamynn is gonna assplode |
| 20:07.57 | Esamynn | foxlit: lies, lies and deceit! |
| 20:08.01 | cbreak | it's 20:07 UTC now |
| 20:08.10 | Fisker- | moar like 20:08 |
| 20:08.11 | Fisker- | :D |
| 20:08.15 | Fisker- | bah |
| 20:08.18 | Fisker- | [22:07:59] <cbreak> it's 20:07 UTC now |
| 20:08.20 | Fisker- | close enough :D |
| 20:08.22 | cladhaire | lua> os.date() |
| 20:08.22 | lua_bot | cladhaire: Fri Aug 1 21:08:22 2008 |
| 20:08.31 | cladhaire | aaw sad face |
| 20:08.42 | Duman | /bin/sh: date;date -u: command not found |
| 20:08.46 | Duman | err I fail |
| 20:08.48 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8557299338&sid=2003 |
| 20:09.04 | Duman | Fri Aug 1 13:09:00 PDT 2008 |
| 20:09.04 | Duman | Fri Aug 1 20:09:00 UTC 2008 |
| 20:09.15 | Esamynn | how about this, the post is saying the realms will be back up in approx 350 minutes from NOW |
| 20:09.34 | foxlit | Nooooooooo! |
| 20:09.35 | Pneumatus | the EU realm would have to be up before 10pm cest to go down though, surely |
| 20:09.38 | Fisker- | moar like 351 minutes |
| 20:09.38 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 20:09.49 | Fisker- | Pneumatus it's 10 minutes past |
| 20:09.53 | Esamynn | Fisker-: note the word "approx" :P |
| 20:09.54 | Fisker- | well 9 minutes and 55 seconds |
| 20:09.55 | Fisker- | :D |
| 20:10.07 | Pneumatus | Fisker-: the realm has been down for like the last half hour tho :) |
| 20:10.11 | foxlit | I demand more timezone confusion |
| 20:10.14 | Esamynn | ~lart Fisker- |
| 20:10.14 | purl | raises middle finger to Fisker- |
| 20:10.14 | foxlit | And a freeze ray |
| 20:10.17 | Fisker- | ok foxlit |
| 20:10.20 | Fisker- | UTC = GMT |
| 20:10.21 | Esamynn | ~gag foxlit |
| 20:10.22 | purl | ACTION takes away the voice of foxlit and, as an additional precaution, sews foxlit's mouth shut permanently... |
| 20:10.23 | cbreak | beta realms are all in the US |
| 20:10.30 | cbreak | even the EU beta realms |
| 20:10.32 | Duman | heh |
| 20:10.35 | Esamynn | ~bzfrag Fisker- |
| 20:10.36 | purl | ACTION destroys Fisker- with a guided missile |
| 20:10.39 | foxlit | http://code.google.com/codejam/contest is in 19 hours, and I need to do something about it :( |
| 20:10.40 | cbreak | (I am not even sure if there are specific EU beta realms) |
| 20:10.52 | cladhaire | foxlit: you're doing well :P |
| 20:10.52 | Pneumatus | cbreak: that doesnt stop our EU CSMs giving times in CEST tho :) |
| 20:11.05 | Pneumatus | and there is, it was linked just now |
| 20:11.06 | cbreak | we have CSMs in the eu? |
| 20:11.08 | foxlit | cladhaire: it's mainly that everyone else is doing poorly |
| 20:11.23 | cladhaire | hehe :P |
| 20:11.23 | cbreak | I think they are bots. |
| 20:11.38 | Pneumatus | Slorkuz and Wryxian are CSM bots :> |
| 20:11.41 | Esamynn | ~bonk cbreak |
| 20:11.41 | purl | ACTION bonks cbreak over the head |
| 20:11.44 | foxlit | Was fine in the qualification round |
| 20:12.21 | foxlit | But OR1 problems have a habit of reminding me I'm not going to get the free lunches :( |
| 20:12.36 | Pneumatus | but yeh, beta patch... wonder what they are gonna break this time |
| 20:12.41 | Gnarfoz | cbreak: there are specific eu beta realms (and the other part was correct, too, them being on the far side of the world) |
| 20:12.42 | Pneumatus | fingers crossed for raised level cap :> |
| 20:12.42 | Fisker- | your mom |
| 20:13.03 | cbreak | I hope they fix the frost talents... :) |
| 20:13.08 | Esamynn | ~whaleslap Fisker- |
| 20:13.09 | purl | ACTION beats Fisker- upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 20:13.10 | Duman | raised level cap? hmm... not sure they're gonna do that yet |
| 20:13.19 | Duman | new DK trees tho, I hope -- well, shoudl be |
| 20:13.29 | Pneumatus | well, im assuming a level cap raise will come at the same time as they open the final 2 zones |
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| 20:13.43 | Pneumatus | im also hoping to see some priest love |
| 20:13.45 | Esamynn | there are 3 zones closed atm :P |
| 20:13.47 | Esamynn | not 2 |
| 20:14.02 | Fisker- | the last is pvp only |
| 20:14.08 | Pneumatus | wintergrasp doesnt count though |
| 20:14.12 | Esamynn | it's still a zone |
| 20:14.18 | ScytheBlade1 | It's still a zone. |
| 20:14.27 | Pneumatus | IT DOESNT COUNT, OK? |
| 20:14.29 | Esamynn | despite it being listed in Eastern Kingdoms on the map |
| 20:14.33 | Fisker- | Well |
| 20:14.34 | Esamynn | ~lart Pneumatus |
| 20:14.34 | purl | takes a big bite out of Pneumatus's jugular vein |
| 20:14.39 | Fisker- | I was actually in icecrown |
| 20:14.45 | Esamynn | so was I |
| 20:14.48 | Esamynn | when the server was lagging once |
| 20:14.53 | Fisker- | i was without the lag |
| 20:14.59 | Esamynn | O Rly? |
| 20:15.07 | Fisker- | if you approach from the right angle it removes the buff before it's teleports you |
| 20:15.12 | Fisker- | for some odd reason |
| 20:15.22 | Esamynn | what? |
| 20:15.25 | Gnarfoz | yep |
| 20:15.26 | Fisker- | Well not odd, but a part of the zone in there is considered crystalsong forest |
| 20:15.33 | Esamynn | I was sure those "teleport" zone were zone wide |
| 20:15.45 | Fisker- | it is |
| 20:15.52 | Gnarfoz | yeah, thus him saying that part of icecrown is marked as Crystalsong |
| 20:16.01 | Gnarfoz | it goes the other way, too, part of crystalsong is marked as storm peaks >_> |
| 20:16.04 | Esamynn | ahh |
| 20:16.21 | Gnarfoz | whoops No Man's Land boom Valgarde =[ |
| 20:16.33 | Esamynn | but seriously, I hope they fix the zone listings for the world map this patch |
| 20:16.49 | Pneumatus | i seriously hope they fix flying in subzones. |
| 20:16.57 | Esamynn | haha |
| 20:17.03 | foxlit | I seriously do not care :) |
| 20:17.03 | Pneumatus | the amount of light feathers ive burned through |
| 20:17.05 | Pneumatus | its getting silly |
| 20:17.12 | foxlit | Maps are evil, anyway |
| 20:17.20 | Esamynn | I hope they fix the [flyable] macro param |
| 20:17.20 | foxlit | I use WoW as a complex lost-in-the-woods simulator :) |
| 20:17.37 | Pneumatus | Esamynn: so it doesnt flag as flyable when you dont have cold-weather in northrend? |
| 20:17.37 | Fisker- | i hope they open up more dungeons |
| 20:17.42 | Fisker- | especially level 76 ones |
| 20:17.43 | Esamynn | Pneumatus: exactly1 |
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| 20:17.52 | alestane | Esamynn: Have you noticed a problem with that condition in Northrend? |
| 20:18.00 | Esamynn | Pneumatus: I wish Flight Form was still bugged to not require the cold weather skill though :) |
| 20:18.05 | foxlit | [which made the Borean Tundra exodus evil, since it's non-obvious which NPC they expect you to return to, and Grizzly Hills, while being directly adjacent, is one level bracket above] |
| 20:18.05 | Pneumatus | hehe |
| 20:18.16 | Esamynn | alestane: yes, see what Pneumatus said |
| 20:18.34 | alestane | That explains some issues I was having with BlazingSaddles. |
| 20:18.57 | Pneumatus | alt+click and feedback that the quest text sucks balls then foxlit :) |
| 20:19.00 | alestane | And that my users were reporting. |
| 20:19.09 | Fisker- | new build is 8719 apparently |
| 20:19.09 | foxlit | Pneumatus: that wasn't the issue |
| 20:19.22 | foxlit | I spent a few gold flying around the zone looking for the NPC that's supposed to give the exit quest |
| 20:19.47 | Esamynn | what I don't understand is why they restricted Dalaran to 74+ in the last build |
| 20:19.51 | Esamynn | talk about silly |
| 20:20.09 | foxlit | The "Where's Dalaran?" in /1 annoys me |
| 20:20.15 | ScytheBlade1 | That's a lesson they learned from Shatt, I'd imagine |
| 20:20.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Expansion is out --> level 60s ran right to Shatt and *then* started questing |
| 20:20.32 | cbreak | how did they restrict it? |
| 20:20.33 | Esamynn | ScytheBlade1: yah, but are they gonna restrict mage portals and warlock summons too? |
| 20:20.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Esamynn: no, for the same reason that they won't restrict level 1 banks. |
| 20:20.47 | foxlit | The design trick is that they clearly do not want people to run to the "northerend capital" |
| 20:20.52 | Esamynn | cbreak: can't use the teleport up without having done a 74 quest chain |
| 20:21.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Exactly |
| 20:21.08 | cbreak | I did the quest chain at 75 and could still not use that |
| 20:21.08 | Esamynn | ScytheBlade1: then the restriction is pointless |
| 20:21.12 | cbreak | it's simply bugged |
| 20:21.13 | Esamynn | oh? |
| 20:21.15 | ScytheBlade1 | No it isn't |
| 20:21.16 | Esamynn | ahh |
| 20:21.20 | ckknight | Esamynn: frankly, that seems okay to me |
| 20:21.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Name one person who is willing to sit in Dalaran and summon people all day |
| 20:21.41 | foxlit | fat golds? |
| 20:21.48 | Esamynn | mage portals |
| 20:21.50 | foxlit | 50g/head might make it worthwhile :) |
| 20:21.56 | Esamynn | mages will make a killing |
| 20:21.58 | foxlit | Esamynn: level-req them to 74, np |
| 20:22.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Name one mage who runs around asking people if they need a port :P |
| 20:22.10 | Esamynn | ScytheBlade1: they would |
| 20:22.11 | ScytheBlade1 | (Hint: if you find one, I'll kill them myself) |
| 20:22.21 | Pneumatus | i just dont understand why anyone who's below level 74 would want to base themselves in dalaran anyway |
| 20:22.27 | Esamynn | the portals |
| 20:22.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Esamynn: okay, let's try this from another angle. Why do you want to be in Dalaran so badly? |
| 20:22.38 | Esamynn | ScytheBlade1: ^^ |
| 20:22.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Uhh |
| 20:22.47 | ScytheBlade1 | You're leveling, and Shatt has all of the portals anyway |
| 20:22.50 | Pneumatus | Esamynn: they can continue to use shatt then |
| 20:22.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Further you have access to Shatt |
| 20:22.53 | ScytheBlade1 | ??? |
| 20:22.55 | foxlit | I'm biased, having played a druid, a death knight, and a mage. |
| 20:23.03 | foxlit | See where the trick is there? :) |
| 20:23.06 | Esamynn | shatt portals don't give me easy access to Northrend |
| 20:23.14 | Pneumatus | shatt->sw->boat |
| 20:23.15 | ScytheBlade1 | And Dalaran does? |
| 20:23.19 | Esamynn | yup |
| 20:23.23 | Esamynn | Flight paths |
| 20:23.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Err |
| 20:23.29 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 20:23.38 | ScytheBlade1 | You make no sense to be, haha |
| 20:23.58 | ScytheBlade1 | *me |
| 20:24.01 | foxlit | [All three classes have an off-hearthstone teleport to class trainers] |
| 20:24.05 | Pneumatus | flying from dalaran to valguarde takes longer than portalling to IF, flying to menithil and taking the boat though, im sure |
| 20:24.16 | Esamynn | foxlit: yes, my main is a Druid |
| 20:24.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Pneumatus: no no, not really |
| 20:24.21 | Dashkal | Pneumatus: I hearth my bank alt to shattrath because that's where everybody is for direct trading |
| 20:24.21 | foxlit | Making level transition easy: death gate, hearth, done |
| 20:24.38 | Esamynn | Pneumatus: but I don't have to pay any attention to use the flight path |
| 20:24.54 | Dashkal | And my leveling alts _always_ hearth there since it's basically a ghetto-mage-port |
| 20:25.07 | Esamynn | as do I |
| 20:25.33 | Dashkal | But for that I could stick with shattrath and not miss it. The former point is more important to me. If it's possible, my bank alt will get ported to darlaran and hearth there |
| 20:25.34 | malreth | sweet jesus! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DipAaBcrkx8 |
| 20:25.34 | Pneumatus | im sure you'll be able to bodge people into dalaran through portals and summons though, same as you can with shatt |
| 20:25.51 | foxlit | I've been levelling alts without shattrah |
| 20:25.58 | foxlit | I can't say it's something I regret |
| 20:25.59 | Shirik | same |
| 20:26.09 | Shirik | but I also was leveling a druid |
| 20:26.13 | Shirik | so moonglade port is kinda easy |
| 20:26.16 | Pneumatus | and yeh, none of my alts get shatt until i pick aldor/scryer on them |
| 20:26.31 | foxlit | Warrior/Shaman were the latest for me |
| 20:26.42 | Cairenn|afk | so what's the good word guys, anyone see a key yet? |
| 20:26.56 | Pneumatus | shaman especially is much more useful to have your hearth set in the quest hub |
| 20:27.01 | Dashkal | Cairenn|afk: *tear* |
| 20:27.03 | Pneumatus | 5 hearths an hour |
| 20:27.06 | Cairenn|afk | =/ |
| 20:27.08 | Fisker- | i got lots of keys on my keyboard |
| 20:27.12 | malreth | Cairenn|afk: i didn't get a key |
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| 20:27.26 | Esamynn | Pneumatus: so, if you can by pass it with other means, why the restriction? |
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| 20:27.59 | malreth | nevermind that i haven't updated an addon in the past two years or something... |
| 20:28.02 | Pneumatus | no idea, but it could possibly be an oversight of using the crystal while they are still developing the zones |
| 20:28.36 | Esamynn | actually my char on beta is still 70, but CAN use the crystal |
| 20:28.49 | ScytheBlade1 | If you use it down, you can then use it going up |
| 20:28.52 | Esamynn | because I did the end of the chain in the first beta build |
| 20:29.01 | Pneumatus | they should tuck the crystal amongst level 82 elite giants ub storm peaks |
| 20:29.07 | Esamynn | HAHA |
| 20:29.14 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd be hot, actually |
| 20:29.14 | Esamynn | that would work better imo |
| 20:29.18 | ScytheBlade1 | With a quest to make them neutral |
| 20:29.24 | Esamynn | rather than a stupid hard level restriction |
| 20:29.53 | malreth | purl rules! |
| 20:29.53 | purl | ACTION makes the rules. now stfu and code more addons. |
| 20:29.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Make them hard enough that general will still be filled with "not until 74" |
| 20:30.03 | Esamynn | ~botsnack |
| 20:30.03 | purl | thanks, Esamynn |
| 20:30.12 | Pneumatus | and while they are at it, they should put all 225-300 profession trainers inside instances |
| 20:30.23 | Pneumatus | so other professions can feel the pain of enchanters |
| 20:30.23 | malreth | ok.. forget that last video i posted... that thing was scary |
| 20:30.32 | malreth | watch this... watch this now... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBM854BTGL0 |
| 20:30.34 | Esamynn | Pneumatus: yes, YES!!!! |
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| 20:35.06 | Islandir | I just want to find out the itemids and then I will use those items ids to use in the item functions so that I am not dependent on owning or specific languages |
| 20:35.13 | Pneumatus | or you can probably pass the itemstring to GetItemInfo() |
| 20:35.56 | Pneumatus | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetItemInfo |
| 20:36.20 | Islandir | item ids are unique for each type of items right ? so for example for everyone in ther world the Marks for WSG have the same ids ? |
| 20:36.42 | Pneumatus | uhuh |
| 20:37.20 | Islandir | I take that as a yes :D |
| 20:37.24 | Pneumatus | yes :> |
| 20:38.04 | Islandir | good good. I just need to find out the ids of the four currently existing marks then :D if someone knows them ... tell me :D |
| 20:38.29 | malreth | search for them on wowhead.com |
| 20:38.34 | Duman | hmm |
| 20:38.46 | malreth | the url for the item will have the itemid |
| 20:38.58 | Pneumatus | this ^^ |
| 20:39.07 | Islandir | ooo never thought it was the real in-game ids on wowhead |
| 20:39.08 | Islandir | lol |
| 20:39.09 | malreth | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=20558 |
| 20:39.20 | Duman | yep.. that's why thottbot and wowhead have the same numbers ;-) |
| 20:39.24 | Duman | (and others) |
| 20:39.30 | Islandir | never did pay much attention lol |
| 20:39.31 | Pneumatus | infact pretty much all, if not all of the databasing sites index by itemid |
| 20:39.31 | Aznamir | You have been selected to participate in the beta test of World of Warcraft®: Wrath of the Lich Kingâ¢. Welcome! |
| 20:39.40 | Duman | and it's the same "item ID" that you can see fot a given item, while in-game |
| 20:39.50 | Aznamir | Bummer that I used that key for another account. |
| 20:39.51 | Duman | Aznamir: grats |
| 20:39.58 | Duman | oh |
| 20:40.14 | Aznamir | waiting for the author give away |
| 20:40.42 | Duman | *nod* |
| 20:40.48 | Islandir | grats Az |
| 20:41.37 | Pneumatus | am i the only one that thinks the first comment here is a bit retarded: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29195 |
| 20:41.48 | Aznamir | So painfull to play beta with a default UI. |
| 20:42.01 | Pneumatus | Aznamir: install addons then |
| 20:42.17 | Aznamir | Can't imagine i played the game without any... |
| 20:42.29 | Aznamir | I wish the ones I used on live would work. |
| 20:42.58 | Aznamir | Pitbull semi-works, but can't see debuff icons on targets and some mod disabled my cast bar |
| 20:43.10 | Duman | nothing buff-related will work |
| 20:43.18 | Aznamir | anyone know a bar mod that works?\ |
| 20:43.18 | Duman | until the authors update their addons |
| 20:43.29 | Aznamir | Yeah, I understand that. |
| 20:43.51 | Duman | bar mod... dunno yet |
| 20:44.11 | Pneumatus | Grid works showing buffs if you fiddle about with SEAura :> |
| 20:44.13 | Duman | I was gonna take a look at Dominos, but was semi-waiting until Tuller was in so I could pass him some diffs/etc :) |
| 20:44.33 | Pneumatus | infact anything that uses SEAura will work showing buffs if you fiddle with it |
| 20:47.27 | Aznamir | what's the diference between UnitAura and UnitBuff? |
| 20:48.23 | Pneumatus | id imagine UnitAura only covers true auras |
| 20:48.41 | Pneumatus | paladin auras, DK presences & draenai racial auras |
| 20:48.50 | Pneumatus | and totems |
| 20:49.18 | Pneumatus | and lock pet auras |
| 20:49.27 | Aznamir | I see, so to display all I need to iterate all both UnitAura, UnitBuff, UnitDebuff? |
| 20:49.53 | Pneumatus | don't quote me on it, but i would have thought so, yes |
| 20:50.14 | Pneumatus | auras are a special kind of buff in that they have no time on them |
| 20:50.25 | Pneumatus | i'd have thought |
| 20:51.35 | Pneumatus | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202271194&postId=82016032556&sid=1#7 |
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| 20:53.24 | alestane | UnitAura includes both buffs and debuffs in one seqeunce. |
| 20:53.51 | Pneumatus | so its not auras at all? that makes sense :> |
| 20:54.33 | Pneumatus | granted i've only fiddled with a couple of addons to strip GetPlayerBuff out |
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| 20:55.24 | alestane | Or another way, UnitBuff and UnitDebuff call UnitAura with specific filters. |
| 20:55.29 | Lunessa | http://icanhascheezburger.wordpress.com/files/2008/07/funny-pictures-kitten-will-catch-his-own-fish.jpg |
| 20:57.10 | Kirov | Has anyone decerned the difference between UnitBuff and UnitAura? |
| 20:57.36 | Pneumatus | http://www.roflcat.com/images/cats/270916538_37c1904290.jpg |
| 20:57.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Four letters? |
| 20:57.46 | Kirov | heh |
| 20:57.58 | ScytheBlade1 | (It was worth a shot) |
| 20:58.16 | Pneumatus | 3 letters, actually |
| 20:58.31 | Aznamir | fail |
| 20:58.36 | Kirov | ah ... read the pirate's post more |
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| 20:59.19 | Kirov | UnitBuff == UnitAura "HELPFULL", UnitDebuff == UnitAura "HARMFULL" |
| 20:59.27 | Kirov | You only have to iterate over UnitAura |
| 21:00.06 | Pneumatus | UnitAura will implicitly set "HELPFUL" as part of its filter value, unless you specify "HARMFUL" as part of its filter. |
| 21:00.07 | wereHamster | ah now I know why blizz won't release a linux client. They are totally against opensource and fight it with all possible means. |
| 21:00.26 | ckknight | no, wereHamster |
| 21:00.32 | ckknight | just no. |
| 21:00.48 | Pneumatus | that must mean UnitAura() == UnitBuff() |
| 21:00.53 | ckknight | the reason is support costs, obviously. Their beef against Glider is that they don't want people to use it widespread |
| 21:01.00 | cladhaire | wereHamster: thats probably the most absurd reaction I've ever seen |
| 21:01.31 | Kirov | wereHamster - Yeah, it's a good thing too because if they didn't we'd have access to the game's lua and xml code. You can imagine how disasterous it'd be if we could actually edit it. |
| 21:01.33 | Kirov | wait .... |
| 21:01.38 | Kirov | Pneumatus - sorta |
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| 21:01.54 | Vilkku | no author keys for anyone yet I guess? |
| 21:02.01 | Pneumatus | cant you run wow with whine anyway? |
| 21:02.05 | Pneumatus | or cedega |
| 21:02.07 | cladhaire | yep |
| 21:02.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Pneumatus: wine is great. wine is also imperfect. |
| 21:02.56 | kd3 | ick at fsck freaking out |
| 21:03.04 | Pneumatus | creating a native linux client that ran over every possible distro/build combination would be absolutely hideous |
| 21:03.05 | ScytheBlade1 | uh-oh |
| 21:03.24 | kd3 | meh, all they'd have to do is what ut2k4 did... write for opengl and sdl |
| 21:03.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Uhh people do that all the time |
| 21:03.58 | malreth | how did girlmeetswow find me on twitter, why is she following me, and is she hot? |
| 21:04.01 | Pneumatus | remind me of a few other games of an equal level to WoW that are doing that ScytheBlade1 |
| 21:04.08 | ScytheBlade1 | UT...? |
| 21:04.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Flash? |
| 21:04.13 | Pneumatus | so just 1 then? |
| 21:04.34 | ScytheBlade1 | How much do you use linux by chance? |
| 21:04.40 | Pneumatus | plenty, thanks |
| 21:04.46 | ScytheBlade1 | In what areas? |
| 21:05.00 | wereHamster | exactly, don't target distributions but libraries. Eg. don't make software that runs on 'Ubuntu 8.04' but write software that runs on 'libGL' and 'libSDL' |
| 21:05.23 | Kirov | You know, blizzard should hire the guy who wrote SDL! |
| 21:05.23 | Pneumatus | my development box is linux, my home-server is linux, my work desktop is linux |
| 21:05.28 | Kirov | That'll help tons! |
| 21:05.36 | cladhaire | Kirov: I NO! |
| 21:05.41 | ScytheBlade1 | So you know that you don't need to build a binary on a per-distro basis then.. |
| 21:05.43 | Dashkal | UT, Quake |
| 21:06.05 | kd3 | and hopefully LSB4 will actually stick this time |
| 21:06.22 | Dashkal | aren't redhat and canocial on board with lsb4? |
| 21:06.27 | cladhaire | or they could continue working with cedega and not having to worry about it |
| 21:06.43 | Kirov | (for people who don't get that joke, slouken's real name is Sam Lantinga, aka the guy who wrote SDL) |
| 21:06.51 | Pneumatus | which is exactly what the likes of EVE have done |
| 21:06.54 | wereHamster | I _hate_ the LSB directory naming. /lib are 32bit libs, /lib64 are 64bit. That's stupid. /lib should be whatever is native |
| 21:07.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Kirov: yeah, I caught it ;) |
| 21:07.23 | kd3 | meh, I like it. that way I can install 32 and 64-bit libraries if necessary |
| 21:07.32 | Vilkku | arrrh where be the keysss? *rips hair* |
| 21:07.47 | wereHamster | sure, so can gentoo. /lib are native libs, and on 64bit you have /lib32 |
| 21:08.13 | cladhaire | aye i hate /lib64 /lib32 its dumb |
| 21:08.23 | cladhaire | native in /lib ftw :P |
| 21:08.41 | wereHamster | but when /lib is for 32bits only, you can't just make;make install; on a 64bit system, because that will install the 64bit libs into /lib |
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| 21:08.57 | kd3 | unless the toolchain knows to check lib64 first |
| 21:09.25 | wereHamster | also, I _have_ autotools. With a passion |
| 21:09.37 | ScytheBlade1 | You have autotools... with a passion? |
| 21:09.38 | cladhaire | i have it too! |
| 21:09.41 | ScytheBlade1 | That's kinda broken, like |
| 21:09.46 | ScytheBlade1 | I mean |
| 21:09.50 | ScytheBlade1 | No words for that |
| 21:10.02 | Lunessa | malreth: Whoever "she" is, I bet she's a man, n]baby, yeah. |
| 21:10.02 | Pneumatus | gentoo: http://funroll-loops.info/ |
| 21:10.03 | Pneumatus | :> |
| 21:11.07 | cladhaire | http://foldl.com/ |
| 21:11.34 | ScytheBlade1 | lol that's a classy website |
| 21:12.05 | cladhaire | malreth: ? |
| 21:12.08 | Duman | pahaha |
| 21:12.08 | Ackis | question: flying into john wayne or lax international, would I need to rent a car either way? |
| 21:12.12 | malreth | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8557368268&sid=1 |
| 21:12.13 | cladhaire | and by ? i mean link |
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| 21:12.24 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8557368268&sid=1 |
| 21:12.25 | kd3 | you'd need to rent a car/hire a taxi/take the disney shuttle |
| 21:12.27 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm guessing |
| 21:12.29 | kd3 | either airport |
| 21:12.35 | Duman | forums are crawling |
| 21:12.47 | kd3 | disney shuttle's cheapest, but I was in a hurry when I got there on day one so I shelled out for a cab |
| 21:12.57 | kd3 | everything's close, no need for a car unless you have to |
| 21:13.04 | Ackis | well I'm fat and lazy |
| 21:13.15 | Duman | I'm actually saying at a hotel across from the disney entrance |
| 21:13.24 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 21:13.26 | Duman | since the gf and her friends are going to disneyland while I'm at blizzcon ;) |
| 21:13.28 | ScytheBlade1 | That thread IS pretty good now |
| 21:13.32 | Kirov | Taxis in LA are cheap, only like maybe $100-$200 to get from the airport to disneyland! |
| 21:13.39 | Duman | altho I'm actually driving down |
| 21:13.48 | kd3 | it didn't cost me that much to take a cab from john wayne |
| 21:13.57 | Ackis | was thinking to fly into john wayne, cabbing to the hotel, cabbing to the convention (hotel recommneded was Cortona) |
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| 21:14.29 | Kirov | Where is blizzcon this year? |
| 21:14.41 | kd3 | same place as last |
| 21:15.19 | Ackis | "The hotel is less than 3 minutes away from the convention center, so it's very convenient. |
| 21:15.23 | Ackis | 3 mins walking or cab? |
| 21:15.30 | Kirov | Walking |
| 21:15.41 | Kirov | (maybe) |
| 21:15.51 | kd3 | ^. there's about 38 hotels within walking distance of the convention center |
| 21:15.53 | Kirov | There are hotels 3 minutes from the convention center. |
| 21:16.04 | Kirov | There are some half an hour from it too |
| 21:16.06 | Kirov | (walking) |
| 21:16.09 | Kirov | (or driving) |
| 21:16.10 | Kirov | heh |
| 21:16.13 | Ackis | :P |
| 21:16.14 | Lunessa | I plan to go, and I will probably road-trip and have my vehicle. If people are friendly, I have room for 5. |
| 21:16.25 | Cairenn|afk | the one I arranged the group rate with is not even 3 minutes walking |
| 21:16.26 | Duman | lunessa where are you coming from? |
| 21:16.27 | Kirov | There are basically three things in anaheim, hotels, fast food, and disneyland. |
| 21:16.35 | Lunessa | Texas. |
| 21:16.36 | cladhaire | we drove from NY to CA last year, and no one wants a ride |
| 21:16.38 | cladhaire | bastages |
| 21:16.38 | Duman | ahh |
| 21:16.39 | Ackis | Cairenn|afk yah it's the one you arranged |
| 21:16.54 | Cairenn|afk | the only ones that are closer are the Hilton and .... ummm ... phooey, can't remember name of other but yeah |
| 21:17.05 | Ackis | any westin's? |
| 21:17.30 | Lunessa | But yeah, since I plan to have my vehicle, I'll happily carpool people while I'm there. |
| 21:17.52 | Lunessa | Assuming I can get a ticket to the event when they go on sale. |
| 21:18.11 | kd3 | same. I'm not making reservations until I know I've got a ticket |
| 21:18.36 | Kirov | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=hotel&sll=33.805611,-117.914758&sspn=0.014656,0.027895&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=16 - the white circle thing near the bottom left is the convention center. Everything across the street from it is disneyland / california adventure. |
| 21:18.41 | malreth | holy shit! when did they get my photo?!? http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03trolls-t.html?_r=1&oref=slogin |
| 21:18.41 | Kirov | Everything else is hotels. |
| 21:18.57 | |Jelly| | Lunessa: Keep me in the know. Perhaps it would be cheaper than a plane ticket? |
| 21:19.03 | Ackis | disney is next door? |
| 21:19.23 | kd3 | yes |
| 21:19.58 | Lunessa | Jelly - Maybe not. I flew Southwest to LA in April round trip for $200. Gas will be higher. But this time I don't want to bum rides everywhere from local friends. So driving will be cheaper than flight + rental. |
| 21:20.20 | |Jelly| | Gas split between people shouldn't be too bad? |
| 21:20.22 | Lunessa | And if someone wants to ride along and split gas costs ... well, then that might be cheaper. |
| 21:20.46 | Duman | southwest is still cheap because they locked in their fuel prices a few years ago |
| 21:20.49 | Duman | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:20.55 | |Jelly| | I just dont' wanna wake up tied to a tree with you telling me how purdy my mouth it. |
| 21:21.03 | Kirov | Driving from the east / midwest to LA will be around $400 in gas total |
| 21:21.19 | Kirov | Just remember the gas prices in LA are like $6 |
| 21:21.33 | Lunessa | Yeah. I couldn't believe the cost to fly. But when I went out in April I was carless and car rental was WAY to fsking high. |
| 21:21.36 | Kirov | ESPECIALLY around disneyland |
| 21:22.06 | Lunessa | But TX - CA drive = 1.5/2 days each way. |
| 21:22.15 | Lunessa | Good thing I like to drive. |
| 21:22.20 | Duman | I'm driving down from the bay area... |
| 21:22.30 | Duman | I'll see if Cog wants to caravan or something, I dunno |
| 21:22.32 | cladhaire | NY - CA is only 4 days :P |
| 21:22.33 | |Jelly| | http://www.orangecountygasprices.com/ !!! |
| 21:22.37 | cladhaire | done that twice |
| 21:22.38 | Duman | not sure when he's planning to leave/head down |
| 21:22.39 | cladhaire | =( |
| 21:22.52 | |Jelly| | Don't know if I'll be able to drive time-wise though. :-\ |
| 21:23.41 | Lunessa | It's a good trip. I'm planing to make a vacation out of it, and spend some time enjoying the trip. |
| 21:24.59 | Cairenn|afk | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1806&d=1217625840 <== Cortona in relation to Convention Center |
| 21:25.05 | Kirov | http://www.orangecountygasprices.com/Anaheim/index.aspx - Harbor and Katella are the streets around that area w/ gas, and they're at the top of the list between $4.19 and $4.25 |
| 21:25.42 | Lunessa | And, if the math works out cheaper, I might just fly anyway. |
| 21:25.55 | Kirov | I stayed at Cortona once. |
| 21:26.06 | Kirov | Not a bad place. |
| 21:26.27 | Kirov | I've stayed at probably every hotel in that area except for the Hilton and the Grand Californian. |
| 21:27.17 | Kirov | Almost all of them have been renovated in the last 5 years too |
| 21:27.57 | Lunessa | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8557249456&sid=1 am I wrong to think the problem is that his button is a local and therefore unavailable outside the scope of his /run line? (at the risk of looking stupid) |
| 21:28.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: no, that wouldn't be his problem - the button has a name, and hence accessible in _G |
| 21:28.49 | Lunessa | Thanks. |
| 21:29.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Note how he's calling it with /click tb1, but the local declaration is "b" |
| 21:29.29 | Lunessa | Yes, I saw that aftyer I pressed "enter" |
| 21:29.34 | ScytheBlade1 | hehe |
| 21:30.01 | foxlit | Can only do that out of combat, really |
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| 21:41.02 | cladhaire | I need ONE More point to get to 300 mining and what pops up? |
| 21:41.04 | cladhaire | Mithril =( |
| 21:41.28 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 21:41.28 | ScytheBlade1 | ouch |
| 21:42.34 | cladhaire | been a long night |
| 21:42.39 | cladhaire | i hate winterspring now. |
| 21:44.08 | clad|sleep | and ANOTHER mithril |
| 21:44.20 | Dashkal | clad|sleep: are you in the west arm? |
| 21:44.24 | clad|sleep | next will be a STV |
| 21:44.43 | Lunessa | clad|sleep: oh man, I did 295-335-ish mostly in EPL and Un'Goro |
| 21:44.44 | clad|sleep | what just popped up, an STV |
| 21:44.50 | Dashkal | lol |
| 21:44.52 | clad|sleep | huzzah! |
| 21:44.54 | clad|sleep | skilled on it |
| 21:45.00 | Lunessa | SCORE |
| 21:45.03 | clad|sleep | DONE AND DONE BITCHEZ |
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| 21:45.47 | clad|sleep | sold my [Orb of Deception] for 583 |
| 21:45.48 | Lunessa | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8557209348&sid=1 - I'm thinking hanging is too good for them. |
| 21:45.50 | clad|sleep | probably should have put it higher |
| 21:45.50 | clad|sleep | oh well |
| 21:46.45 | clad|sleep | Sell the Ore or smelt it? |
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| 21:46.57 | Lunessa | Thorium? Sell. |
| 21:48.03 | Dashkal | Lunessa: I thought you were taking a forum break to get away from those posts :p |
| 21:48.09 | Aznamir | is the beta server down? |
| 21:48.31 | kd3 | yes |
| 21:48.39 | kd3 | they're patching as per the sticky in general |
| 21:48.45 | kd3 | ScytheBlade1, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8557248730&sid=2000 |
| 21:52.14 | Aznamir | dang, just as I was about to test my changes |
| 21:52.29 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: yeah I saw that earlier, hehe |
| 21:52.32 | |Jelly| | What does a fire mage need for +hit? |
| 21:53.02 | kd3 | +12%? |
| 21:53.04 | kd3 | ~140ish iirc |
| 21:53.08 | |Jelly| | kk |
| 21:53.09 | ScytheBlade1 | 164 |
| 21:53.18 | ScytheBlade1 | 164 hit rating to hit cap with 3/3 ele precision |
| 21:53.29 | |Jelly| | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Burning+Legion&n=Reeaper <-- rip into him for me |
| 21:53.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Arcane needs something like 89 and frost needs 3% less than fire due to a talent spec bug |
| 21:53.41 | |Jelly| | I don't know anything about mages but he's a friend apping to the guild. I want to give him a heads up. |
| 21:53.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Give me a sec |
| 21:53.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Helping a guildie out with his mage ;) |
| 21:55.38 | Vilkku | patching and sending out keys, if I would have anything to say on the matter |
| 21:56.02 | Mery | is there a guide on how to add an addon to the blizzard interface options frame? - or where should i look? |
| 21:56.19 | kd3 | ~framexml |
| 21:56.20 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/ |
| 21:56.24 | kd3 | it's documented in blizz's code |
| 21:57.53 | Mery | kd3: thanks - I only looked into optionsframe not into uioptionsframe |
| 21:59.11 | haste | p3lim: pong |
| 21:59.49 | p3lim | haste: not sure, but I think theres an issue with oBindings and multiple profiles on 1 class |
| 21:59.54 | Lunessa | Ok, I'm out. See you guys later. |
| 22:00.57 | p3lim | I have one combat and one sub keybinding layout under ROGUE on my oB layout, I cant hotswap or even change between the two |
| 22:02.06 | haste | p3lim: possilbly fixed |
| 22:02.43 | p3lim | ill try |
| 22:04.05 | haste | I'm amazed if it is :D |
| 22:04.15 | haste | took two logins to do the push :P |
| 22:06.03 | ScytheBlade1 | |Jelly|: what tier guild is he apping to? |
| 22:06.12 | |Jelly| | Mine -- 5/6 |
| 22:06.39 | ScytheBlade1 | And BT? |
| 22:06.57 | |Jelly| | BT/Hyjal every week as progression raids. T5 on off nights. |
| 22:07.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Err, 5/6 Sunwell? |
| 22:07.31 | haste | let me know if it doestn't w'rk, gues I should revert if it doestn'p :D |
| 22:07.53 | |Jelly| | We only do SW trash and it's not progression. |
| 22:08.11 | ScytheBlade1 | So what's 5/6 then? |
| 22:08.25 | |Jelly| | T5 / T6 |
| 22:08.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh hahaha |
| 22:08.40 | ScytheBlade1 | I thought that you meant that was a zone progression marker |
| 22:08.58 | ScytheBlade1 | I was like, "your friend with just over 900 spell damage (975 fire) is apping to a guild that's 5/6 Sunwell?" |
| 22:09.24 | Esamynn | lol |
| 22:09.36 | Esamynn | isn't 900 spell dmg good? ;) |
| 22:09.42 | Kirov | Not for sunwell |
| 22:09.43 | Esamynn | seems like a high number! |
| 22:09.50 | ScytheBlade1 | It's a bit low for BT/Hyjal, it could be a fair bit higher |
| 22:09.52 | |Jelly| | I honestly know next to /nothing/ about caster DPS. |
| 22:10.06 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm 4/5 and 6/9 BT with 1084 +dmg and +1135 fire |
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| 22:10.08 | Kirov | I have 1200 spell damage on my mage, and I'm like entry level sunwell. |
| 22:10.10 | Esamynn | hahaha, 2 bites in a matter of seconds, nice |
| 22:10.12 | |Jelly| | Could he improve it with easily obtainable things? (Badge gear, crafted stuff) |
| 22:10.16 | ScytheBlade1 | 903 is pretty low truth be told |
| 22:10.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes |
| 22:10.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes he could |
| 22:10.19 | p3lim | haste: o snap, it worked, thanks |
| 22:10.37 | haste | awesome :D |
| 22:10.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Badge... almost everything would help |
| 22:10.48 | Esamynn | Kirov, ScytheBlade1: my question was very tongue in cheek :P |
| 22:11.04 | ScytheBlade1 | He needs an Icon in a trinket slot, like wtf |
| 22:11.07 | p3lim | two rogues, two specs, 1 addon :p |
| 22:11.19 | haste | drunk coding +1 :3 |
| 22:11.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Esamynn: yeah sorry, heh, doing like three things at once ;) |
| 22:11.23 | p3lim | :D |
| 22:11.26 | Kirov | I actually had over 1000 spell damage and 28% crit before I entered BT / Hyjal |
| 22:11.33 | Kirov | go go badge gear |
| 22:11.42 | ScytheBlade1 | |Jelly|: badge chest legs weapon, Icon of the Silver Crescent (weapon) |
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| 22:11.48 | Esamynn | I not actually up to date on what a "good" spell dmg (or healing) + is |
| 22:11.58 | Esamynn | I remember what was good back pre-TBC! ;) |
| 22:12.03 | Esamynn | I think... |
| 22:12.16 | p3lim | (1 spec) |
| 22:12.27 | zenzelezz | boomkin? |
| 22:12.30 | p3lim | feral |
| 22:12.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Given those he'd be pretty well off |
| 22:12.45 | Esamynn | p3lim: only 500? |
| 22:13.08 | Esamynn | I've completely lost track of how many i've spent |
| 22:13.09 | p3lim | Esamynn: Didnt say anything about beeing done though |
| 22:13.18 | Esamynn | heh |
| 22:13.28 | p3lim | Esamynn: And its excluded all the gems |
| 22:13.45 | Esamynn | heh, I goto my guild bank for gems =D |
| 22:13.59 | p3lim | I left my guild a few days ago so.. |
| 22:14.25 | p3lim | And my guild were doing kara/za/ssc, Im geared for BT+ |
| 22:14.53 | p3lim | They had no access to epic gems except the badges |
| 22:15.12 | Kirov | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Echo+Isles&n=Kerova - replace the pvp trinket w/ http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29132 |
| 22:15.38 | ScytheBlade1 | |Jelly|: pick up badge weapon chest legs, consider putting +dmg on the gloves instead of +hit, belt of blasting, new gem in the wand (+12 dmg or +10 haste) |
| 22:15.42 | Kirov | I have 104 haste |
| 22:15.48 | ScytheBlade1 | |Jelly|: I'd add "get a helm with a meta gem" but I have yet to manage that myself :( |
| 22:15.51 | Kirov | (which the amory doens't show) |
| 22:16.27 | haste | I hate you all |
| 22:16.36 | |Jelly| | That's. I'll let him know. |
| 22:16.51 | Stanzilla | lol haste :P |
| 22:16.51 | selckin | haste: lol. |
| 22:17.04 | Stanzilla | needs more highlights! |
| 22:17.04 | |Jelly| | ~hug haste |
| 22:17.05 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on haste and suddenly hugs haste tightly |
| 22:17.13 | haste | *gasps* |
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| 22:17.51 | haste | I got a complain today btw,becaus I said *gasp* irl :D |
| 22:18.01 | p3lim | lol |
| 22:18.17 | ScytheBlade1 | |Jelly|: in sum, "more damage" sums it up nicely. 903/975 is low but not low enough to be told "no" on the app assuming he's competent |
| 22:18.54 | p3lim | haste: I found another issue with oB actually |
| 22:19.05 | haste | :( |
| 22:19.11 | haste | what now? |
| 22:19.13 | Esamynn | haste: that's not a good sign at all |
| 22:19.20 | p3lim | It doesnt properly print out all registered layouts, only the last one in the table |
| 22:19.28 | haste | Esamynn: I know :( |
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| 22:19.35 | Rabbitbunny | Do you guys know of an addon that would let me put my action bars just outside the ()'s of IceHUD? |
| 22:19.36 | Esamynn | haste: next you'll be saying "lawl" |
| 22:19.38 | p3lim | say i have a combat and sub, only prints the sub one (even tho both works) |
| 22:19.43 | haste | p3lim: meh |
| 22:19.48 | Esamynn | or l-o-l |
| 22:19.52 | haste | Esamynn: that won't happen :p |
| 22:19.53 | Kirov | Rabbitbunny - Yeah ... any of them. |
| 22:20.01 | p3lim | I can still select a diffrent layout, but the print doesnt show it |
| 22:20.04 | Kirov | (any of the action bar addons) |
| 22:20.13 | Esamynn | haste: I've seen it before |
| 22:20.14 | haste | Esamynn: she was just annoyd with me saying *gasp* when I met her :D |
| 22:20.16 | Esamynn | be careful |
| 22:20.29 | haste | It surely won't happen! |
| 22:20.55 | Kirov | Rabbitbunny - http://www.vranx.com/ good, though not really complete, list. |
| 22:21.33 | haste | p3lim: I'll have a look in 12h :p |
| 22:21.44 | p3lim | haste: deal ;P |
| 22:22.19 | haste | let's make that 12h earliest |
| 22:22.35 | haste | I have more work tomrrow |
| 22:23.00 | p3lim | Gotta paint the house tomorrow :/ |
| 22:24.01 | haste | been there, done tnatt |
| 22:24.35 | Dashkal | haste: don't turn into me. I use internet memes in my daily speech |
| 22:24.54 | haste | Dashkal: too late :( |
| 22:24.59 | Dashkal | *cackles* |
| 22:25.01 | Esamynn | Dashkal: oh dear, you poor, poor soul |
| 22:25.11 | haste | Dashkal: worst parrt.... I know people who get them |
| 22:25.17 | Dashkal | I can has? old meme is old. lawl. Normal conversation |
| 22:25.29 | Esamynn | ... |
| 22:25.35 | Esamynn | ~gag Dashkal |
| 22:25.35 | purl | ACTION takes away the voice of Dashkal and, as an additional precaution, sews Dashkal's mouth shut permanently... |
| 22:25.43 | Dashkal | :p |
| 22:25.53 | Esamynn | Dashkal: your right to speak has been revoked for crimes against the English language |
| 22:26.08 | Esamynn | oh wait, are you American? |
| 22:26.23 | Dashkal | Nope, Canadian :p |
| 22:26.29 | Dashkal | I don't even get that excuse |
| 22:26.36 | Esamynn | ~fail Dashkal |
| 22:26.36 | purl | Dashkal, you Fail! |
| 22:26.48 | haste | which makes memes worse :p |
| 22:26.59 | Dashkal | The irony is I use them more in speech than online |
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| 22:27.05 | Esamynn | I don't even know what "memes" means |
| 22:27.13 | Kirov | Esamynn - keep it that way |
| 22:27.15 | haste | google it |
| 22:27.17 | Dashkal | ~dict meme |
| 22:27.27 | Esamynn | Kirov: I intend to |
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| 22:28.00 | haste | time to watcn tv, btb! |
| 22:28.10 | p3lim | Dashkal: Thank god I dont speak english irl |
| 22:28.15 | p3lim | Else id be like that too |
| 22:28.29 | p3lim | BAER DURID SAZ NO MEWMEW etc |
| 22:28.34 | Dashkal | heh. I don't know exactly when I got into that habit |
| 22:28.47 | Dashkal | It's a bad one I admit, but my friends are more or less used to it |
| 22:28.51 | p3lim | hehe |
| 22:29.02 | p3lim | neat thing i have, half my friends are gamers too |
| 22:29.16 | p3lim | so they dont care, the rest is used to me using geeky expressions |
| 22:29.38 | Esamynn | Dashkal: you can stop, really, you can! |
| 22:29.40 | Dashkal | Yep, pretty much why I get away with it |
| 22:29.53 | Dashkal | Esamynn: Certainly. I can stop anytime I want to. |
| 22:30.01 | Esamynn | ... |
| 22:30.06 | Esamynn | oh that's a really bad sign |
| 22:30.19 | Esamynn | total denial of the problem |
| 22:30.29 | cog|away | Duman: we're going down a day early and staying with my uncle |
| 22:30.42 | Dashkal | No denial at all |
| 22:30.51 | Dashkal | "anytime I /want/ to." |
| 22:31.45 | Esamynn | ~epic fail Dashkal |
| 22:31.46 | purl | Dashkal, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you Dashkal, you are that epic failure. |
| 22:31.56 | Dashkal | :p |
| 22:32.27 | Dashkal | Well, it shouldn't be too surprising since ICHC is one of my favorite sites |
| 22:33.05 | Esamynn | that's it, you're beyond hope, I'm going back to work before I become infected |
| 22:33.31 | Dashkal | Might be safer :) |
| 22:33.49 | Dashkal | That said, it's too late. You understood ICHC |
| 22:36.01 | Esamynn | it took me a good 10-15 seconds |
| 22:36.51 | Dashkal | There may be hope then |
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| 22:46.24 | Kirov | ICHC? |
| 22:47.00 | Mal|afk | www.icanhascheezburger.com |
| 22:48.00 | Kirov | ah |
| 22:50.32 | Dashkal | spread the infection! :p |
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| 22:50.42 | cbreak | pizza > burger. |
| 22:51.43 | cog|away | cheeseburger pizza? |
| 22:51.56 | cbreak | no. |
| 22:52.24 | Dashkal | I could go for a cheese and beef pizza :p |
| 22:52.27 | cbreak | salami pizza. no stupid pizza hawai, no stupid pizza with eggs, just a plain pizza with salami. |
| 22:52.37 | cbreak | beef?! |
| 22:52.40 | cog|away | salami's too strong for pizza imo |
| 22:52.43 | Dashkal | yes, beef |
| 22:53.03 | cbreak | a steak pizza? |
| 22:53.37 | Dashkal | not kidding. I had a philli cheesesteak pizza a couple weeks ago |
| 22:58.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh good, only a 21.8MB patch |
| 22:59.07 | Dashkal | !api RawHook |
| 22:59.07 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'RawHook'. |
| 22:59.19 | Dashkal | nevermind, wires crossed |
| 23:01.44 | cbreak | 22.8MH here |
| 23:01.58 | Pneumatus | 22.5mb according to my downloader.. |
| 23:02.11 | cbreak | now it shows 22.2 |
| 23:02.12 | Pneumatus | 8681 to 8714 |
| 23:02.14 | ScytheBlade1 | I have 21.8... |
| 23:02.17 | cbreak | I wonder if it's deterministic :) |
| 23:02.22 | ScytheBlade1 | 8681 --> 8741 |
| 23:02.38 | Pneumatus | enGB for mine as well, if that makes a difference |
| 23:02.43 | ScytheBlade1 | ah |
| 23:02.44 | ScytheBlade1 | enUS |
| 23:02.52 | cbreak | 8681->8714 |
| 23:03.34 | Pneumatus | 8681 to 8714 enGB = 22.5MB, and its just finished downloading :> |
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| 23:04.40 | cbreak | disapointing patch notes. |
| 23:05.01 | Pneumatus | build change patchnotes fail repeatedly :< |
| 23:05.35 | Pneumatus | will just go to bed and read about the changes on mmochamp in the morning |
| 23:06.51 | Pneumatus | i really think the only thing im bothered about is flying in all zones |
| 23:07.14 | cbreak | I don't want to see any content in LichKing |
| 23:07.29 | cbreak | I only want to see the mage talents and maybe the API changes |
| 23:07.41 | cbreak | or I'd spoil my own leveling in life realms |
| 23:08.40 | Pneumatus | for me, it is gonna enhance my levelling fun on live |
| 23:08.44 | Pneumatus | as im going to be racing 80 |
| 23:08.57 | cbreak | and then wait for the rest of your guild? :) |
| 23:09.25 | Pneumatus | waiting for a guild is the best time to rep-grind for something sexy |
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| 23:09.26 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v Kody-] by ChanServ |
| 23:09.28 | Pneumatus | like a talbuk |
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| 23:10.00 | Arrowmaster | i still need one of those |
| 23:10.02 | Pneumatus | i hit 70 and had the first talbuk on my realm before the majority were even in nagrand |
| 23:10.15 | Cide | your guild is slow |
| 23:10.17 | cbreak | rep grinding is so boring |
| 23:10.21 | cbreak | like all kinds of grinding |
| 23:10.35 | cbreak | don't need to play wow to be bored :) |
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| 23:11.07 | Pneumatus | but as it happened, a few of my friends hit 70 the following day, which is when we went hitting the instances hard |
| 23:11.21 | Pneumatus | getting all the instance keys and kara attuned and whatnot |
| 23:11.36 | Pneumatus | we were in kara within a fortnight of release |
| 23:12.07 | cbreak | what's a forthnight? |
| 23:12.12 | Pneumatus | 2 weeks |
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| 23:13.32 | Pneumatus | geared in dungeon blues and whatever heroic gear we could get from the seriously over-difficultly tuned heroics :< |
| 23:14.10 | cbreak | I found heroics amusing. Much more fun than the boring normal dungeons |
| 23:14.29 | Pneumatus | some of them were insanely hard at the start though, like mana tombs |
| 23:14.34 | cbreak | the first time I was in one the tank commented that the trash mobs hit like bossmobs |
| 23:14.49 | Pneumatus | where pandemonius was ripping through tanks with 350 shadow res like they were naked |
| 23:15.07 | Kirov | I've done heroics w/ blue & green geared people. |
| 23:15.23 | Pneumatus | before they were nerfed Kirov? |
| 23:15.29 | Kirov | Pneumatus - yes |
| 23:15.44 | Kirov | With in 2 weeks of the expansion being released |
| 23:15.44 | Pneumatus | even the hard ones? |
| 23:15.58 | Kirov | yep |
| 23:16.18 | Arrowmaster | i was in one of the first groups to do most of the different instances on heroic on my realm |
| 23:16.28 | Kirov | Never really had a big problem with them, apart from Shattered Halls timed runs. |
| 23:16.52 | Arrowmaster | shattered halls timed run was easy |
| 23:16.55 | Pneumatus | shattered halls centurion packs on heroic, they were nasty as hell |
| 23:16.56 | Arrowmaster | korgath was not |
| 23:17.44 | Kirov | korgath? |
| 23:17.55 | Gnarfoz | kargath |
| 23:17.59 | Arrowmaster | kargath |
| 23:18.20 | Gnarfoz | last boss of shattered halls |
| 23:18.40 | Arrowmaster | he was fucking hard prenerf without any raid gear |
| 23:18.43 | Kirov | Ah, I actually had less problems with Kargath when I was running with the blues team vs. the later epixed out teams. |
| 23:19.03 | Kirov | But that's because I ran with a group of hardcore raiders. |
| 23:19.16 | Arrowmaster | so did i |
| 23:19.17 | Kirov | About 10 of us who always grouped up for the 5 mans. |
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| 23:19.38 | cbreak | you're good at stacking :) |
| 23:20.01 | Arrowmaster | i had a MT from another guild that kept inviting me to his heroics |
| 23:20.16 | Kirov | By the time I had epic raid level gear, many of those guys had stopped playing or transfered servers. The "hardcore" players we played with who had only started playing during BC we had tons of problems with. |
| 23:20.41 | Arrowmaster | we were the first to clean underbog, arch and a bunch of other heroics |
| 23:22.28 | Kirov | I quit wow for a while, used to do Karazhan up to around Curator but never had the DPS to down him (blue + green 65-70 geared players). When I got back I was laughing at how easy they'd made some of the trash. |
| 23:23.41 | Kirov | Skeletal Ushers were probably the biggest nerf. |
| 23:23.45 | kd3 | yay, only a 22MB patch |
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| 23:24.13 | Kirov | We used to do that with one warrior, a druid, and two rogues. |
| 23:26.53 | Duman | hmm |
| 23:31.10 | cbreak | hmm... new fire talents. |
| 23:34.14 | Duman | orly |
| 23:34.19 | Duman | new talent calcs up? |
| 23:36.53 | cbreak | orly what? |
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| 23:37.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Where are these talents? |
| 23:37.44 | cbreak | in the patched version |
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| 23:38.05 | Duman | hmm |
| 23:38.14 | Duman | hope they update the calc soon, won't be online until later tonight :) |
| 23:38.23 | Duman | did they chance DK stuff ? |
| 23:38.28 | cbreak | burnout only costs 1% spell cost |
| 23:38.29 | Duman | I guess mmo-champ will get updated soon enough |
| 23:38.47 | cbreak | don't play a DK |
| 23:39.34 | cbreak | there's a new talent (I think) firestarter, gives 15% chance for instant flamestrike when casting dragon's breath |
| 23:40.26 | kd3 | servers are up. huh |
| 23:40.31 | batrick | anybody get their author key yet? |
| 23:41.11 | kd3 | bah, blazing saddles broke |
| 23:41.24 | Duman | noooooo |
| 23:41.46 | kd3 | and the token ui is still broken! |
| 23:41.49 | Duman | 204.69.232.0/24 *[BGP/170] 6w3d 18:10:28, MED 101, localpref 101, from 204.15.21.20 |
| 23:41.49 | Duman | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:41.49 | Duman | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:41.51 | Duman | ack oops |
| 23:41.54 | Duman | damn mouse |
| 23:42.40 | foxlit | It's somewhat comforting to be making all sorts of breaking changes to live sites when you know nobody will actually see past the cache |
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| 23:43.16 | kd3 | interface diffs going out. anyone not on my list want a copy? |
| 23:44.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Duman: heh, middle click much? ;) |
| 23:45.14 | ckknight | krka: there's a patch if you didn't know already |
| 23:45.39 | kd3 | and the email's been sent |
| 23:45.47 | kd3 | ...wtf? "WaterPoop02.blp"? |
| 23:45.57 | ScytheBlade1 | WHOA |
| 23:46.07 | ScytheBlade1 | THREAT IMPLIMENTATIONS ON THE FLOATING COMBAT TEXT |
| 23:46.08 | ScytheBlade1 | WTF |
| 23:46.32 | ckknight | ...yea |
| 23:47.30 | Duman | WHOAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 23:48.12 | Duman | sbo: what does it look like? |
| 23:48.23 | Duman | dammit I should go home! ;-) |
| 23:48.53 | ScytheBlade1 | screenshots in 10 when they auto-upload |
| 23:49.22 | ScytheBlade1 | "90% Threat" and "72% threat" are the only ones I've seen, something tells me taht we have full threat values in game |
| 23:49.30 | ScytheBlade1 | -local pulloutHealthBar, pulloutManaBar; |
| 23:49.31 | ScytheBlade1 | +local pulloutHealthBar, pulloutManaBar, pulloutThreatIndicator; |
| 23:49.37 | ScytheBlade1 | +securecall("UnitFrameThreatIndicator_Initialize", unit, pulloutButton); |
| 23:49.45 | Duman | hooooly shit |
| 23:50.25 | ScytheBlade1 | +self.threatIndicator = getglobal(prefix.."ThreatIndicator"); |
| 23:50.41 | Duman | upload faster! |
| 23:50.42 | Duman | ;) |
| 23:50.46 | ScytheBlade1 | +UnitFrameThreatIndicator_Initialize(unit, self, threatRelativeTo); |
| 23:50.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Upload starting |
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| 23:51.14 | Duman | hot diggity |
| 23:51.46 | Duman | LOL @ <04:45PM kd3> ...wtf? "WaterPoop02.blp"? |
| 23:52.08 | cbreak | still no way to mount in a macro? |
| 23:52.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Duman: http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Wrath/ |
| 23:52.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Last four |
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| 23:52.40 | kd3 | -NUM_PET_STABLE_SLOTS = 2; |
| 23:52.40 | kd3 | +NUM_PET_STABLE_SLOTS = 4; |
| 23:52.43 | kd3 | hunters rejoice |
| 23:52.52 | Antiarc | .?AUUnitThreat@@ |
| 23:52.53 | Antiarc | HELL |
| 23:52.54 | Antiarc | YES |
| 23:53.38 | kd3 | there's a targetframethreatindicator texture on the TargetFrame |
| 23:53.50 | kd3 | this... is going to rock |
| 23:53.59 | Duman | woot |
| 23:55.17 | cbreak | frost talents still bugged :( |
| 23:55.25 | kd3 | mage or dk? |
| 23:55.45 | cbreak | mage of course. |
| 23:55.52 | cbreak | dk frost talents were bugged? |
| 23:55.58 | kd3 | iunno, possibly |
| 23:56.15 | Duman | they were changing them around |
| 23:56.18 | ScytheBlade1 | It looks like every time you hit something, it shows your threat relative to whatever you hit |
| 23:56.20 | Duman | at least, ghostcrawler said they were |
| 23:56.26 | ScytheBlade1 | And yeah, going to find the unitframe stuff now |
| 23:56.40 | Tuller | so you're saying |
| 23:56.50 | Tuller | whenever you ride something, you can: |
| 23:56.52 | Tuller | blow up things |
| 23:56.57 | Tuller | and the mainbar art changes |
| 23:57.02 | kd3 | yah |
| 23:57.12 | kd3 | it was broken in the last build, ui was looking for textures that didn't exist |
| 23:57.22 | kd3 | a whole sea of green at the bottom of the screen whenever we got in a vehicle |
| 23:57.38 | Antiarc | Is there a framexml diff yet? |
| 23:57.40 | Tuller | where be my beta key :P |
| 23:57.45 | kd3 | I've already emailed it out |
| 23:57.47 | kd3 | you not on my list? |
| 23:57.52 | Antiarc | I'm not |
| 23:57.54 | Tuller | http://wowcompares.com/3018681 |
| 23:57.56 | Tuller | that? :P |
| 23:57.56 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:57.57 | Antiarc | cheald at gmail |
| 23:58.58 | kd3 | it's in your inbox |
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| 23:59.00 | Duman | hehe |
| 23:59.02 | ckknight | UnitThreatSituation("unit") and UnitThreatSituation("relUnit", "unit") |
| 23:59.29 | Duman | interesting |
| 23:59.39 | Duman | relative threat numbers.. |
| 23:59.43 | Duman | well, percentages probably? |
