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| 00:01.21 | bleeter | quick question for the longtime WoW players... which Blizz staff warped sense of humour figured that Taurens have the most careful hands to pick dainty flowers for a +15 racial? |
| 00:02.26 | Esamynn | they worship the Earth Mother, the flowers help pick themselves! |
| 00:02.49 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, well when you're used to eating flowers and such, you learn the mast way to aquire them |
| 00:03.01 | Thunder_Child | s/mast/best/ |
| 00:03.25 | amro | Thunder_Child: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jb8CH0rTcY4 |
| 00:05.01 | Duman | bombadida |
| 00:05.17 | Thunder_Child | amro, he is good, though i am not a fan of that song |
| 00:05.40 | amro | I don't like the song, but its funny |
| 00:15.29 | Kaso | youve gotta muck up pretty bad to make both operands nil |
| 00:15.37 | Kaso | i cant say ive seen that before either |
| 00:15.52 | selckin | should have said they're equal imo |
| 00:15.55 | selckin | :( |
| 00:16.56 | Kirov | !lua nil > nil |
| 00:16.57 | batbot | Kirov: @ [string "return nil > nil"]:1: attempt to compare two nil values |
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| 00:18.00 | selckin | !lua nil == nil |
| 00:18.00 | batbot | selckin: > true |
| 00:18.11 | Kirov | !lua nil >= nil |
| 00:18.11 | batbot | Kirov: @ [string "return nil >= nil"]:1: attempt to compare two nil values |
| 00:19.39 | amro|afk | makes sense |
| 00:19.46 | amro|afk | off to bed, night all |
| 00:19.56 | Shirik | --> local s = nil; debug.setmetatable(s, {__gt = function() return true; end}); |
| 00:20.11 | Thunder_Child | night amro|afk |
| 00:20.16 | Shirik | --> local s,t = nil, nil; debug.setmetatable(s, {__gt = function() return true; end}); debug.setmetatable(t, {__gt = function() return true; end}); return s>t, s, t |
| 00:20.16 | batbot | Shirik: @ [string "local s,t = nil, nil; debug.setmetatable(s,..."]:1: attempt to compare two nil values |
| 00:20.20 | Shirik | hm |
| 00:20.58 | Kirov | Cairenn - what happens if a mod gets created w/ multiple authors for the ROFL contest? |
| 00:21.00 | Shirik | --> local s,t = nil, nil; debug.setmetatable(s, {__lt = function() return true; end}); debug.setmetatable(t, {__lt = function() return true; end}); return s<t, s, t |
| 00:21.00 | batbot | Shirik: > true, nil, nil |
| 00:21.03 | Shirik | there we go |
| 00:21.06 | Shirik | forgot there was no __gt |
| 00:21.18 | Cairenn | the mod "owner" on the site sends me a PM |
| 00:21.42 | Kirov | Cairenn - rather, one specific project w/ multiple authors contributing |
| 00:21.50 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 00:21.58 | Kirov | More a curious "what if" |
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| 00:22.28 | Kirov | (contributing to the same project, cooperatively) |
| 00:22.48 | Cairenn | I just need confirmation that they are contributing authors, then send me a PM with their user id # on the site and whether they are US or EU |
| 00:22.58 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, watch out for "someone's" name suddenly apearing on an addon |
| 00:23.00 | Cairenn | already set up the Auctioneer/Gatherer folks |
| 00:23.16 | Cairenn | ohhh ,.... sorry |
| 00:23.22 | Cairenn | duh, nm me |
| 00:23.35 | Cairenn | you said "rofl contest", I saw "beta keys" |
| 00:23.47 | Thunder_Child | ~sigh Cairenn |
| 00:23.48 | purl | ACTION sighs, rolls its eyes and shakes its head, "Cairenn!" |
| 00:23.59 | Kirov | I figured it'd click eventually |
| 00:24.06 | Cairenn | we award the code to the project lead then they can fight it out between themselves :p |
| 00:24.17 | Kirov | hehe, ok |
| 00:24.27 | Thunder_Child | fight! fight! fight! fight! |
| 00:25.13 | Lunessa | In other news, hobbyist programmers found dead in 6 countries today. |
| 00:25.25 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 00:25.53 | ScytheBlade1 | hahaha |
| 00:25.53 | Thunder_Child | no known link exists between them with the exception that they all play wow. |
| 00:26.26 | Thunder_Child | please be on the lookout for a serial code killer. |
| 00:26.34 | Thunder_Child | (no pun intended) |
| 00:26.54 | Drundia | all 6 of them were me |
| 00:27.10 | Drundia | i was just soulstoned |
| 00:27.27 | Industrial | How do I check if an item is a shield or weapon? |
| 00:27.53 | Kirov | Industrial - using GetItemInfo? |
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| 00:28.53 | Industrial | Kirov: how do I get the item id of an item im wearing :p |
| 00:29.02 | Industrial | i know im bad for asking but ive never done anything with items before ^^ |
| 00:29.07 | Industrial | looking at the docs tho :< |
| 00:29.20 | Industrial | og i can pass GetItemLink() ? |
| 00:29.23 | Kirov | ~lart Industrial |
| 00:29.23 | purl | stabs Industrial |
| 00:29.24 | Industrial | *tries* |
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| 00:35.09 | batrick | Shirik: ping |
| 00:35.23 | Shirik | batrick: semi-pong |
| 00:35.40 | batrick | You good with matlab any? |
| 00:35.51 | Shirik | if by good you mean awful, then yes |
| 00:35.54 | batrick | rather, everytime you reference a matrix/vector, you get a copy yes? |
| 00:35.54 | Shirik | but I might know the answer |
| 00:36.04 | Shirik | I'm 99% sure that's true, yes |
| 00:36.40 | Shirik | since they're the primary value in matlab, I don't see how they could not do that |
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| 00:41.35 | Kirov | Anyone here have a druid w/ flight form & can log on to non-beta? |
| 00:42.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | no, but what do you need? :O |
| 00:42.44 | Kirov | heh |
| 00:42.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i had one for a significant time but i stopped playing forever ago |
| 00:43.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Kirov: you mean "live", yes, what do you need? |
| 00:43.43 | Kirov | NightHawkTheSane - do you have the flight form trinket + whip? |
| 00:43.53 | NightHawkTheSane | no, only the trinket. :\ |
| 00:44.03 | Kirov | carrot? |
| 00:44.16 | NightHawkTheSane | nope, no carrot either |
| 00:44.19 | Kirov | oy |
| 00:44.23 | NightHawkTheSane | sorry :\ |
| 00:44.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i had both |
| 00:44.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 00:45.03 | Kirov | trying to test a bug were if you go from mounted to flight form my auto mount speed addon fucks up and saves your mounted gear to swap back to. |
| 00:45.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah |
| 00:45.26 | Kirov | but it's only an issue if you have both trinkets |
| 00:45.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i heard a buttload of those broke in 2.4.3 |
| 00:45.42 | NightHawkTheSane | dismounting and mining broke. fuckers. >< |
| 00:45.45 | Kirov | Yeah, this is an old bug with my version, I fixed the other one. |
| 00:45.53 | Esamynn | NightHawkTheSane: huh? |
| 00:46.02 | Kirov | Was going to see if I could fix that before I released. |
| 00:46.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | ask in the druid forums, kirov |
| 00:46.29 | Kirov | Mr_Rabies2 - but but ... that takes too long! |
| 00:46.29 | Esamynn | Kirov: from the looks of things, you won't have to maintain that addon much longer ;) |
| 00:46.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Esamynn: if you use a mod to swap whip/crop/carrot/flight form trinket, if you dismount by clicking on a mine/herb/skinning thing, changing the gear breaks the cast and you have to reclick |
| 00:46.38 | NightHawkTheSane | it's annoying |
| 00:46.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | druids are usually pretty adept at addon usage, especially if you're offering to help them :O |
| 00:46.47 | Kirov | Esamynn - Yeah, I know. thinking of a "fuck it" might be in order. |
| 00:46.49 | Esamynn | NightHawkTheSane: ahh |
| 00:46.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | :effort: |
| 00:47.07 | Esamynn | NightHawkTheSane: blame the exploiters |
| 00:47.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Esamynn: sadly, that part annoys me more than spellsurge swap addons breaking. :P |
| 00:47.43 | Esamynn | lol |
| 00:48.13 | Esamynn | Kirov: I'd be on the side of "screw it, let them suffer", but then I have Swift Flight Form ;) |
| 00:48.31 | Esamynn | wait |
| 00:48.40 | Esamynn | if you ahve the flight trinket, you ahve swfit flight form |
| 00:48.48 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 00:48.55 | Esamynn | why the hell would anyone be mounted where they could use swift flight form |
| 00:48.57 | Esamynn | ??? |
| 00:49.01 | NightHawkTheSane | azeroth |
| 00:49.07 | Industrial | f=CreateFrame('Frame') f:Show() f:SetScript('OnUpdate', function(f, e) print(e) end) |
| 00:49.10 | Esamynn | ~fail NightHawkTheSane |
| 00:49.11 | purl | NightHawkTheSane, you Fail! |
| 00:49.11 | Industrial | how can e be nil |
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| 00:49.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Esamynn: you're just mad you forgot an entire two continents. :P |
| 00:49.47 | Industrial | oh, NM |
| 00:49.51 | Esamynn | NightHawkTheSane: uuhh, no |
| 00:49.59 | Esamynn | NightHawkTheSane: "where they could use swift flight form" |
| 00:50.07 | Esamynn | Learn2Read |
| 00:50.10 | NightHawkTheSane | oh. pfft |
| 00:50.11 | NightHawkTheSane | reading is overrated. |
| 00:50.19 | Esamynn | ~fail NightHawkTheSane |
| 00:50.20 | purl | NightHawkTheSane: FAIL! |
| 00:50.25 | NightHawkTheSane | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:51.31 | Esamynn | Industrial: umm, I agree, e being nil shouldn't be possible |
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| 00:53.12 | Esamynn | Kirov: so anyways, yah, I'd say screw it, it's not worth the special handling |
| 00:54.44 | Industrial | Esamynn: I was calling it manually without args for a first update :p *doh*\ |
| 00:54.58 | Esamynn | hahaha |
| 00:55.03 | Esamynn | ~fail Industrial |
| 00:55.03 | purl | Industrial: FAIL! |
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| 01:05.08 | kd3 | huzzah |
| 01:05.09 | kd3 | new build |
| 01:05.35 | alestane | Is it patching? I just logged in not three minutes ago and all I got was offline realms. |
| 01:05.37 | tuxeh | Any idea on how I'm supposed to get a random number output? The floor is 1, the roof is 4 .. I keep getting 3 if I use GetTime() as my seed |
| 01:05.59 | kd3 | gen forums http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8430246636&pageNo=1&sid=2000#6 |
| 01:06.53 | Legorol | tuxeh: could you be a bit more specific, like what functions you are using to get the random numbers, or maybe pastey a code snippet? |
| 01:07.08 | Legorol | kd3: I bet that's a rickroll |
| 01:07.12 | Legorol | i ain't clicking it |
| 01:07.12 | tuxeh | sure Legorol |
| 01:07.14 | tuxeh | hold on |
| 01:07.19 | alestane | Well, I was there for the server shutdown and I gathered it was likely to be a new build, but it doesn't seem to be available just yet. |
| 01:07.19 | Legorol | general forum is usually not worth clicking, is it? |
| 01:07.25 | kd3 | beta general, though |
| 01:07.48 | Legorol | it's getting worse day-by-day :( |
| 01:07.52 | kd3 | ya |
| 01:08.04 | kd3 | hopefully they'll make good on their threat to ban the idiots |
| 01:09.21 | tuxeh | http://lua.pastebin.com/d60a8f7b8 - GetTime() isn't static is it ? |
| 01:10.54 | Legorol | it shouldn't be |
| 01:11.34 | tuxeh | So in theory, the seed should be different every single time? When I call that function (content shown in the pastebin) I keep getting 3 |
| 01:12.35 | Legorol | that's odd idd |
| 01:12.42 | Legorol | i don't see anything obvious outright |
| 01:13.49 | Duman | feh |
| 01:14.06 | Duman | I like how he replied to the "any1" post, and not my nice PSA post |
| 01:14.16 | Duman | oh well :P |
| 01:14.22 | Kaso | tuxeh are you using a stand alone lua client? |
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| 01:15.06 | tuxeh | I'm only executing it as a wow addon, not doing anything else |
| 01:15.18 | Legorol | Kaso: GetTime() is WoW specific, isn't it? |
| 01:15.49 | tuxeh | GetTime() is equal to os.time() innit? |
| 01:16.03 | MentalPower | nop |
| 01:16.04 | malreth | !api GetTime() |
| 01:16.04 | lua_bot | Found 3 possible results for 'GetTime()': MovieRecording_GetTime, GetTime, GetTimeToWellRested |
| 01:16.04 | Kaso | yah, but it could be that a stand alone client was using os.clock() or something for gettime |
| 01:16.09 | malreth | !api GetTime |
| 01:16.10 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'GetTime' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetTime |
| 01:16.21 | MentalPower | os.time() is seconds since epoch |
| 01:16.44 | MentalPower | GetTime() is time since OS startup |
| 01:17.08 | Kaso | tuxeh, are you resetting randomseed each time you call your function? |
| 01:17.32 | tuxeh | That might be it, i thought I only had to call the method again to get a new seed |
| 01:17.39 | tuxeh | err, to set the new seed* |
| 01:18.16 | Kaso | you should only really set the seed once, really infact you shouldnt need to set it at all in the wow enviroment, given that lots of other sutff will be using random function as well as you |
| 01:18.40 | Kaso | but setting randomseed each call will reduce randomness of the resulted numbers |
| 01:19.29 | malreth | if you're not careful, it'll even *eliminate* randomness |
| 01:20.03 | Legorol | tuxeh is right |
| 01:20.09 | Legorol | I just did this in WoW: |
| 01:20.10 | Legorol | math.randomseed(GetTime()); |
| 01:20.10 | Legorol | ChatFrame1:AddMessage(math.random(4)) |
| 01:20.20 | Legorol | for me, spamming that results in 4 over a period of 15 seconds |
| 01:20.27 | Legorol | i spammed it around 15-20 times |
| 01:20.51 | Legorol | instead simply spamming ChatFrame1:AddMessage(math.random(4)) resulted in a random sequence as expected |
| 01:21.16 | Legorol | the one with the seed is still resulting in 4 |
| 01:21.44 | Legorol | tuxeh: i think it has to do with the specifics of how randomseed interacts with its argument |
| 01:21.45 | malreth | yeah... don't reseed every time you retrieve a random number |
| 01:21.48 | Legorol | GetTime is a large number |
| 01:21.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Who had the screenshot of the shadows? |
| 01:22.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Or any screenshot demonstrating shadows that would be fine if I linked to people I know? |
| 01:22.42 | Legorol | it may be that when called with a large number as argument, of which only the least significant digits are changing, randomseed truncates/ceils/floors/cuts/whatever and always results in the same seed |
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| 01:23.07 | malreth | wouldn't surprise me |
| 01:23.17 | Legorol | usually seeds are in the 0-1 rane |
| 01:23.18 | tuxeh | thanks though, it's all sorted now :) |
| 01:23.20 | Legorol | *range |
| 01:25.45 | Legorol | yup GetTime isn't changing rapidly enough to affect the seed |
| 01:26.27 | Legorol | over the past few minutes, math.randomseed(GetTime()) followed by math.random() resulted in the same number every time |
| 01:26.58 | Legorol | so randomseed is using the top 2, maybe 3 significant digits only |
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| 01:28.40 | malreth | actually, it probably takes the first 32 bits |
| 01:28.53 | malreth | or whatever it is you kids uses as an int these days |
| 01:29.39 | foxlit | That "top 2, maybe 3 sig digits" is just pure junk |
| 01:30.04 | Kaso | Didnt someone write code to output pngs in lua? |
| 01:30.22 | Drundia | seed is likely 32-bit and the evil wow has RAND_MAX as low as 32767 |
| 01:30.22 | p3lim | lol! |
| 01:30.37 | Kirov | select2(math.modf(GetTime()) * 1000 |
| 01:30.38 | p3lim | im looking at 300+ downloads in 5 hours, cause of 1 change in the addon |
| 01:30.39 | foxlit | Quite a lot of the value is used, it's just that close values result in close first returns |
| 01:30.43 | Kirov | that should be a good seed |
| 01:30.51 | Kirov | good-er |
| 01:31.10 | Shirik | randomseed() should just take an int, since it uses the POSIX call |
| 01:31.12 | Kirov | select(2, |
| 01:31.14 | Kirov | rather |
| 01:31.14 | Shirik | at least it does in the default system |
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| 01:31.27 | Kaso | foxlit, you didnt do png in lua did you? |
| 01:31.29 | Drundia | random generated number is function of random seed |
| 01:31.45 | Drundia | and then it takes only high or low bits of it |
| 01:31.46 | foxlit | Kaso: yes, I did |
| 01:32.02 | Kaso | i dont suppose that code is around for borrowing for personal use? |
| 01:32.08 | Drundia | so it's likely that seeds that differ so little produce equal numbers especially when you limit it to 4 outcomes |
| 01:32.08 | foxlit | Drundia: first sentence is obvious, second is unsubstantiated |
| 01:32.31 | Shirik | agree with foxlit |
| 01:32.43 | Shirik | hell, mersenne twister has a huge waterfall effect from just incrementing the seed by 1 |
| 01:32.46 | foxlit | Kaso: sure, but :) |
| 01:32.56 | Drundia | well, most of random number generators i saw either and it, or shift to right |
| 01:33.15 | foxlit | Kaso: it's probably a better idea to use http://lua-gd.luaforge.net/ if you've got control over execution environment |
| 01:33.22 | foxlit | Let me see if I can post my code up somewhere |
| 01:33.34 | Shirik | after writing a mersenne twister implementation for a 8 bit microcontroller... omg |
| 01:33.42 | Shirik | my head exploded on that one |
| 01:33.47 | Shirik | all assembly :( |
| 01:33.52 | Drundia | on windows it's usually (seed & 0x7FFF) or (seed >> 17) or something like that, which is exactly taking either low or high bits |
| 01:34.16 | foxlit | "on windows" is just an awesome generalization |
| 01:34.24 | Shirik | how can you say that |
| 01:34.27 | Drundia | yes |
| 01:34.32 | Shirik | Windows has nothing to do with the random number generator |
| 01:34.37 | Drundia | it's very good generalization |
| 01:34.44 | Drundia | it's system c library that has it |
| 01:34.45 | Shirik | it's implemented in the libraries you link with |
| 01:35.02 | Drundia | and php manual (hehe) refers to it, in part... |
| 01:35.38 | Drundia | i don't think it is something complicated because it has to be fast |
| 01:35.44 | malreth | mersenne twister sounds like a fun game... Left hand on head! <spin> right foot on left! <spin> Blue ear on Q! |
| 01:36.00 | foxlit | frankly, math.randomseed(hash(os.time())) :) |
| 01:36.12 | foxlit | Kaso: http://www.spirit-dreams.net/ui/notepad/7 |
| 01:36.23 | Shirik | funny thing is, MSDN argues that srand() has no definition for any seed value other than 1 |
| 01:37.08 | foxlit | you probably want bxor, crc32, adler32, deflate, genPNGChunk and writePNG |
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| 01:37.42 | foxlit | [I really should've split those up a bit better] |
| 01:38.05 | foxlit | [heh, 2007-09-16] |
| 01:38.06 | Shirik | Drundia: Depends on your definition of complicated |
| 01:38.20 | Shirik | Computers can do math extremely fast, especially when it's implemented correctly |
| 01:38.29 | Shirik | just because it's not a simple operation doesn't mean it's not a fast operation |
| 01:39.02 | Shirik | to be quite frank, most modern processors can do several math operations in one effective cycle |
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| 01:39.11 | Kaso | thats lovely foxlit, thanks |
| 01:39.25 | Shirik | that does, however, rely on correct knowledge of the use of the processor |
| 01:39.51 | NightHawkTheSane | hm... how would i determine how many items are a stack I'm currently mousing over? |
| 01:40.14 | foxlit | Kaso: I should also warn you that the PNGs it generates are generally as uncompressed as they go - they'll be valid, but they'll be larger than they would be if saved by a more competent library :) |
| 01:40.39 | Drundia | modern processors should just get assembly instruction for random |
| 01:41.06 | foxlit | ... because that's a good idea. |
| 01:41.35 | foxlit | If you just need "random", you can easily make do with the c library |
| 01:41.51 | Kaso | NightHawkTheSane probally easiest to check the FontString of the button that has mouse focus? |
| 01:41.55 | foxlit | If you have to get cryptographically secure random numbers, you can get a better, open documentation. |
| 01:42.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaso: hm, thanks. |
| 01:42.07 | Kaso | or pick up the stack, use GetCursorInfo and drop it down again |
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| 01:42.13 | foxlit | If you're really paranoid, you can get special hardware to focus on generating random numbers through noise. |
| 01:42.23 | foxlit | Implementing it on a CPU, though, seems strange. |
| 01:42.31 | tuxeh | lets say I want to toggle a flag .. like in c you've got flag != flag .. i tried flag ~= flag as I thought that was the not equivalent, but that didn't really work :-P |
| 01:42.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaso: eh, i'd rather not pick up the stack. what i want to do is be able to mouseover, say, Sunfury Signets, and see how much rep the stack is worth, without reaching for my calculator :p |
| 01:42.52 | Shirik | foxlit, generally they just implement a (not cryptographically secure) standard random generator on a CPU if they do at all |
| 01:42.59 | Kaso | flag = not flag |
| 01:43.07 | Shirik | but moreover, foxlit, they tend to give you operations that LET you implement the function quickly |
| 01:43.17 | Shirik | for example, an instruction that does add, mul, not |
| 01:43.23 | Shirik | all at once |
| 01:43.30 | Kaso | NightHawkTheSane it seems like there should be a better way of doing that, but off the top of my head... |
| 01:43.32 | malreth | ~= is a logical operation, not assignment |
| 01:43.33 | purl | malreth: what are you talking about? |
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| 01:43.40 | malreth | purl, shut up |
| 01:43.41 | purl | yes, master malreth |
| 01:43.42 | Kaso | hah purl |
| 01:43.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaso: heh, yeah. :) |
| 01:44.04 | Drundia | purl, talk again |
| 01:44.04 | purl | ACTION chatters endlessly to again |
| 01:44.48 | Drundia | purl, malreth needs attention |
| 01:44.57 | Drundia | :( |
| 01:44.58 | tuxeh | thanks Kaso -- though, the equivalent of if(!flag) is if(not flag) ? Or can it not be used that way |
| 01:45.01 | Shirik | purl, tend malreth |
| 01:45.05 | Shirik | :( |
| 01:45.11 | Kaso | it sure can |
| 01:45.25 | tuxeh | great, thanks :) |
| 01:45.37 | malreth | read you some lua manual |
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| 01:46.08 | malreth | ~luamanual |
| 01:46.09 | purl | Please read http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/ for the answer to your questions |
| 01:46.30 | Shirik | oh wow, foxlit, I just found out actually IA-32 has a pseudo-random offset instruction |
| 01:46.37 | Kaso | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#2.5.3 |
| 01:46.41 | Kaso | thats the part you want |
| 01:46.54 | MentalPower | Shirik: oh? |
| 01:46.55 | Drundia | Shirik, tell me more |
| 01:47.00 | Shirik | so you build a table of numbers (probably sequentially) and then get a pseudo-random offset from the top of the table |
| 01:47.07 | Shirik | and you've got a pseudo-random number |
| 01:47.59 | Drundia | where did you find it? let me see it and.... hmmm.... i'll think what should come after that "and" |
| 01:48.05 | malreth | pesudo-random offset? when's that get useful? |
| 01:48.14 | Shirik | I just told you |
| 01:48.34 | Shirik | Build a table of sequential numbers, find a pseudo-random offset from the top of the table, bam you have a pseudo-random number |
| 01:48.48 | Shirik | Drundia, trying to figure out exactly what the instruction is, sec |
| 01:49.00 | malreth | yeah, but the practicality of doing that in assembly... |
| 01:49.12 | Shirik | it has to be bytecode at some point... |
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| 01:51.03 | malreth | i keep seeing this image of some engineers standing around saying, "hey, we got some extra transistors here." "yeah, let's throw in a pseudo-random offset thingie." "sounds good!" *high fives all around* |
| 01:51.34 | Kaso | lol |
| 01:51.48 | Drundia | i think you have similar images for at least 50% of assembly intructions.... |
| 01:53.19 | Shirik | honestly, malreth, a lot of instructions sound incredibly stupid |
| 01:53.21 | Shirik | I'll admit it |
| 01:53.30 | Shirik | but one thing I've learned is that Intel is very intelligent when they come up with their instructions |
| 01:53.44 | Shirik | Their "incredibly stupid" instructions have a very useful purpose and improve performance dramatically |
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| 01:54.27 | Shirik | Take SHUFPS for example |
| 01:54.33 | Shirik | incredibly complex instruction, but very useful |
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| 01:55.19 | malreth | i think it was the 'rlwinm' instruction on the ppc 601 chip that gave me pause... rotate left word immediate then and with mask... "so much for RISC!" i said to myself |
| 01:55.42 | Shirik | ^ very useful instruction as well tbh |
| 01:55.51 | malreth | why do in two instructions what you can do in one? |
| 01:56.06 | malreth | i know it's useful... it's just not very... RISCy |
| 01:56.25 | Shirik | em, I'll agree with that I guess |
| 01:56.26 | Legorol | Shirik: what's SHUFPS? You piqued the good old curiousitee |
| 01:56.31 | Shirik | !g SHUFPS |
| 01:56.31 | batbot | Shirik: SHUFPS--Shuffle Single-Precision Floating-Point Values <http://www.ews.uiuc.edu/~cjiang/reference/vc293.htm> |
| 01:56.38 | Shirik | it um... |
| 01:56.43 | Shirik | well, it shuffles values |
| 01:56.47 | Shirik | it's hard to explain |
| 01:56.47 | Legorol | :) ok |
| 01:56.52 | Shirik | go check out that page it has a decent diagram |
| 01:56.53 | |Jelly| | Can't you repair near Shadow Labs? |
| 01:56.54 | Shirik | from the white papers |
| 01:57.07 | Legorol | |Jelly|: you can if you have done the necessary questline |
| 01:57.13 | malreth | i think it stands for SHUt the Fuck up Please Sir |
| 01:57.14 | Legorol | then the ghost guy in front of crypts can repair you |
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| 01:59.31 | |Jelly| | woot. thanks |
| 02:01.17 | Legorol | Shirik: that does appear to be incredibly complex.. and maybe useful :) |
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| 02:02.14 | Shirik | it is very useful in many algorithms, thus why it was one of the first SSE instructions |
| 02:03.26 | tuxeh | Quick question: I've seen people using multiple colours in a normal chatframe message .. What's the syntax? I've seen someone do specify multiple colours in a text string in hex |
| 02:04.46 | ckknight | |cffrrggbbtext|r |
| 02:05.12 | tuxeh | thanks :) |
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| 02:10.18 | Lunessa | Don't try to do that in gukild MotD or notes. You'll get diconnected. |
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| 02:12.07 | Industrial | FUCK |
| 02:12.13 | Industrial | 1980 us 2000 them |
| 02:13.30 | malreth | the 1980s sucked... hooray for the new millennium! |
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| 02:13.32 | |Jelly| | :( |
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| 02:15.39 | kd3 | if any of you have beta keys and want to chime in on "stop storing user prefs in C:\Program Files", now's your chance |
| 02:15.45 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8537703741&sid=2000 |
| 02:17.14 | NightHawkTheSane | chime in for me and make the same argument for osx storage. wts ~/Library/Application Support/... |
| 02:17.45 | malreth | i don't think %userprofile%\Documents is the right place, tho |
| 02:18.44 | Industrial | I think %WOW_DIRECTORY/WTF is the right folder. |
| 02:18.58 | malreth | but %userprofile%\AppData is too hard to find since it's hidden |
| 02:19.06 | Industrial | haha i used directory and folder in the same sentence |
| 02:19.32 | malreth | i use them interchangeably, too |
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| 02:20.25 | Industrial | cabinet :D |
| 02:20.49 | malreth | portfolio |
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| 02:20.58 | Industrial | library |
| 02:21.13 | Industrial | shelf |
| 02:21.29 | Industrial | <insert collection holder> |
| 02:21.30 | starlon | cookie jar |
| 02:21.33 | malreth | binder |
| 02:22.21 | NightHawkTheSane | your mom. |
| 02:22.37 | malreth | ~lart NightHawkTheSane |
| 02:22.37 | purl | gives NightHawkTheSane a "free" copy of Windows and then charges double for "Upgrades" |
| 02:22.39 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: thanks for that link, I'm totally chiming in... and I might yell at that guy in the same thread.. |
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| 02:23.14 | p3lim | Shirik: Very nice program youve made (the updater) |
| 02:23.19 | Shirik | not really |
| 02:23.29 | Shirik | it's got so many problems I don't know where to start |
| 02:23.40 | p3lim | had no problems for me atleast |
| 02:23.55 | |Jelly| | you had a favorites list, i'm sure |
| 02:24.05 | p3lim | 3 buttons and it installed all of the addons on my fav list |
| 02:24.29 | p3lim | now i never have to manually download zips anymore :D |
| 02:24.39 | p3lim | (except for the addons not on wowi) |
| 02:24.54 | malreth | i kinda see the argument about having a portable WoW folder, though |
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| 02:34.14 | |Jelly| | All you jerks with Beta keys :( |
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| 02:39.44 | Lunessa | kd3: I'm torn. I hate how much I have to do to help end users fix things. I totally love self-contained apps and portability. |
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| 02:45.07 | |Jelly| | :( |
| 02:45.56 | TecnoBrat | Except, I can only play with the key |
| 02:46.01 | TecnoBrat | Since beta servers are down |
| 02:46.56 | Lunessa | zomg... I can has cheeseburger? |
| 02:47.27 | |Jelly| | Only if I can has Beta Key :P |
| 02:49.33 | Lunessa | :P |
| 02:53.49 | ScytheBlade1 | |Jelly|: you can always follow along here! http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Wrath/ |
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| 02:59.20 | |Jelly| | I hate you. |
| 03:00.00 | ScytheBlade1 | I wrote a script that runs every 15 minutes, finds any new screenshots, converts and uploads them |
| 03:00.11 | ScytheBlade1 | So once the beta is back up, I'm sure there will be several more in short order |
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| 03:06.55 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, is there a post about the beta down time? |
| 03:07.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8430146522&sid=2000 |
| 03:07.41 | Thunder_Child | thanks ScytheBlade1 |
| 03:07.55 | ScytheBlade1 | sure |
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| 03:25.14 | Shirik | lua> assert(true, "foo"..nil); |
| 03:25.14 | lua_bot | Shirik: luabot:1: attempt to concatenate a nil value |
| 03:25.32 | Shirik | bleh |
| 03:25.35 | Shirik | This is why macros are good for you |
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| 03:34.37 | Industrial | hi. |
| 03:34.42 | Industrial | im yelling at you, Shirik . |
| 03:34.52 | Industrial | I want to know who has my addon favorited. |
| 03:34.56 | Industrial | Shirik: make it so. |
| 03:35.06 | Shirik | I could delete your addon so we can verify that nobody has it favorited |
| 03:35.07 | Shirik | is that ok? |
| 03:35.13 | Industrial | ;D |
| 03:38.41 | Industrial | Shirik: yeah well then im telling cair. :p |
| 03:38.45 | Industrial | im telling on you! >:O |
| 03:38.56 | Shirik | kk |
| 03:38.57 | Shirik | pz |
| 03:39.04 | Industrial | nn |
| 03:48.15 | p3lim | Shirik: Youre an WOWI admin of some sort, right? |
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| 03:48.26 | Shirik | moderator |
| 03:48.30 | DARKGuy | o/ |
| 03:48.33 | Shirik | but I can do the majority of things they can |
| 03:48.37 | DARKGuy | new WotLK item addition :D -> http://pakten.org/upload/uploads/1210839842856.jpg |
| 03:48.57 | p3lim | Mind changing categories of one of my addons? |
| 03:49.18 | p3lim | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/editfile.php?id=8961 |
| 03:49.22 | p3lim | to Unit Mods |
| 03:49.31 | DARKGuy | o.o Shirik = WoWI mod? :O |
| 03:49.33 | DARKGuy | sweet |
| 03:53.35 | p3lim | Shirik: Let me know when youve done it :) |
| 03:54.23 | kd3 | whee, 235MB patch for enUS |
| 03:55.59 | |Jelly| | wtb patch notes? :) |
| 03:56.04 | Rabbitbunny | ... '/reloadui' keeps dcing me. other options? |
| 03:56.44 | Shirik | uh |
| 03:56.47 | Shirik | someone else did it p3lim |
| 03:56.48 | Shirik | sorry |
| 03:56.58 | kd3 | jelly; check mmo-c |
| 03:57.09 | kd3 | there's about 5 lines of changes compared to current build |
| 03:57.27 | Shirik | I blame Seerah |
| 03:57.37 | Shirik | DARKGuy, why do you think I've been an op here >.> |
| 03:57.59 | DARKGuy | Shirik: I didn't know WoWI mods get OP also in IRC :P |
| 03:58.04 | DARKGuy | there are places where it doesn't happen ^^ |
| 03:58.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Ugh, 235MB |
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| 03:58.29 | p3lim | Shirik: Yap, you were too slow :p |
| 03:58.44 | Thunder_Child | hey, after the 1.8 GB of the client in the first place 235 should be nothing |
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| 03:58.56 | ScytheBlade1 | It is when I'm raiding >< |
| 03:59.08 | kd3 | disable p2p? |
| 03:59.13 | ScytheBlade1 | I did |
| 03:59.16 | kd3 | still wtb upload limits in the blizz downloader |
| 03:59.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Hence the gripe about the size |
| 03:59.44 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, get a better connection |
| 04:00.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: tell that to comcast |
| 04:00.34 | Thunder_Child | "Glyph of the Penguin - Empowers a Minor Glyph to cause your Polymorph: Sheep spell to turn the target into a baby penguin." |
| 04:00.46 | ScytheBlade1 | ... and my city council, who denied $1.1 million to give every house fiber to the doorstep giving me 50/15 for $40/month |
| 04:00.47 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, i would but time warner bought them out around here |
| 04:01.07 | ScytheBlade1 | And then turned around and gave a golf course $700k for a large LED scrolling sign |
| 04:01.10 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:02.53 | Thunder_Child | ~whine ScytheBlade1 |
| 04:02.53 | purl | ACTION whines about ScytheBlade1's whining |
| 04:06.32 | Seerah | I blame Shirik |
| 04:07.07 | p3lim | Thunder_Child: "Glyph of the Penguin" is a fact? |
| 04:07.16 | p3lim | or just a wish? :p |
| 04:07.33 | Thunder_Child | http://www.mmo-champion.com/3 |
| 04:07.35 | Thunder_Child | http://www.mmo-champion.com/ |
| 04:07.38 | Thunder_Child | it's there |
| 04:07.49 | p3lim | holy crap! xD |
| 04:08.07 | p3lim | thats amazing lol |
| 04:09.34 | p3lim | how does the glyphs work? |
| 04:09.37 | p3lim | 1 per char? |
| 04:09.51 | kd3 | we don't really know, it's not all that implemented yet |
| 04:10.00 | p3lim | and inscribers gets two? (as seen by Glyph Mastery) |
| 04:10.08 | p3lim | ah ok, those are my guesses |
| 04:10.30 | p3lim | neat that they show many of the druid ones, as I play a druid :p |
| 04:10.49 | Thunder_Child | 5 gliphs |
| 04:10.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Those are just the ones that they've added so far |
| 04:10.54 | Thunder_Child | 3 major 2 minor |
| 04:11.00 | Thunder_Child | 1 for inscribers only |
| 04:11.27 | p3lim | as I see there are 3 types, Lesser, Minor and Greater |
| 04:11.37 | haste | oh wow, I could switch keyboart |
| 04:11.50 | haste | gwah :( |
| 04:12.04 | haste | damn laptop keys |
| 04:12.17 | p3lim | 1hour Motw, 1.5 hour GotW |
| 04:12.30 | Codayus | Yeah, I like the idea of minor glyphs. |
| 04:12.30 | p3lim | and it is a minor one :o |
| 04:12.39 | Codayus | Or the ones I've seen so far.... |
| 04:12.42 | Shirik | standing outside the fire |
| 04:12.45 | Shirik | standing outside the fire |
| 04:12.53 | Shirik | life is not tried it is merely survived if you're standing outside the fire |
| 04:12.56 | p3lim | YEEEEHA! |
| 04:12.59 | p3lim | *Glyph of the White Bear - Changes the appearance of your bear and dire bear forms to that of a polar bear. |
| 04:13.00 | haste | anyway, I could install a new keyboard layout and swicth to it without rebooting on vista! |
| 04:13.35 | haste | needed a regfix to remap the damn caps-lock key tho' |
| 04:13.39 | p3lim | Im so gonna get that glyph lol :D |
| 04:13.50 | Shirik | me too |
| 04:14.10 | p3lim | haste: http://www.randyrants.com/sharpkeys/ |
| 04:14.17 | p3lim | haste: I think it works with vista |
| 04:14.43 | Thunder_Child | FLUFF!! |
| 04:14.56 | p3lim | I use it to remap my mac keyboard to windows |
| 04:15.17 | Codayus | Some of the druid glyphs are surprising powerful. I can't wait to see other classes. |
| 04:15.24 | haste | p3lim: why would I need that? |
| 04:15.42 | p3lim | haste: makes the reg fixes to keyboard easier |
| 04:15.57 | p3lim | might just be me beeing lazy tho |
| 04:16.04 | haste | but it wasn't any problem without |
| 04:16.38 | haste | now... I need to figure out how to get sound on this thing |
| 04:16.45 | p3lim | not saying that its any problem, just makes it easier |
| 04:16.47 | Rabbitbunny | seriously. reloadui is bugged. I'm not getting anything done by logging in consantly. Hints? |
| 04:16.59 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:17.00 | p3lim | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:17.17 | Rabbitbunny | I've never heard of that one. |
| 04:17.18 | haste | /run ReloadUI() -- !!! |
| 04:17.25 | Rabbitbunny | I've been doing '/reloadui' |
| 04:17.32 | p3lim | that requires an addon |
| 04:17.37 | haste | how is it bugged btw? |
| 04:17.43 | Rabbitbunny | it logs me out. |
| 04:17.57 | Rabbitbunny | like, after it reloads the ui, it freezes and logs me out. |
| 04:17.57 | p3lim | Rabbitbunny: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9181-Reload.html |
| 04:17.58 | haste | sounds like you have a bugged addon |
| 04:18.13 | haste | Rabbitbunny: that's a bugged addons doing |
| 04:18.20 | haste | it loops forever |
| 04:18.27 | Rabbitbunny | Probably. Note that I'm reloading because my addon isn't working like I expect... |
| 04:19.11 | haste | using any while, untill or such? |
| 04:19.27 | p3lim | wow... Glyph of Rake - Your Rake ability prevents targets from fleeing. |
| 04:19.36 | p3lim | now that is powerful for leveling |
| 04:20.23 | Rabbitbunny | haste: No. math and an echo. |
| 04:21.16 | Rabbitbunny | ...now it works perfectly. |
| 04:21.18 | haste | anyway... how do I switch where vista sends the sound? it's using some bluetooth thingy atm |
| 04:21.47 | malreth | haste: right click on the volume icon in the task bar, choose playback devices |
| 04:21.52 | Thunder_Child | haste, rclick the volume icon bottom right -> playback devices |
| 04:22.03 | haste | I did that, still ho sound :p |
| 04:22.05 | Thunder_Child | you know what malreth, screw you |
| 04:22.05 | malreth | I WINN! |
| 04:22.15 | malreth | ~rub Thunder_Child |
| 04:22.16 | purl | ACTION rubs Thunder_Child raw. Ooh... That smarts! |
| 04:22.42 | Thunder_Child | ~seeth malreth |
| 04:22.53 | haste | It still sends to the bluetooth |
| 04:23.00 | haste | which I don't have :D |
| 04:23.08 | malreth | ~whaleslap Thunder_Child |
| 04:23.09 | purl | ACTION beats Thunder_Child upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 04:23.11 | Thunder_Child | uninstall the BT drivers? |
| 04:23.17 | Thunder_Child | ~whaleparry malreth |
| 04:23.18 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry malreth's attacks. |
| 04:23.19 | haste | no can do |
| 04:23.23 | haste | not my laptop |
| 04:23.34 | p3lim | im loving the new changes: * Challenging Roar now has a 3 minute cooldown, reduced from 10 minutes. |
| 04:23.51 | malreth | ~whalestab Thunder_Child |
| 04:23.52 | purl | ACTION stabs Thunder_Child with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 04:24.02 | Thunder_Child | ~whaleslap malreth |
| 04:24.03 | purl | ACTION beats malreth upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 04:24.15 | Thunder_Child | ~whalekiss malreth |
| 04:24.16 | purl | ACTION makes hugh the formerly male whale give malreth a kiss |
| 04:24.20 | malreth | ~mdk Thunder_Child |
| 04:24.20 | purl | ACTION slices and dices Thunder_Child and throws him in the trash |
| 04:24.34 | Thunder_Child | ~cheeseslap malreth |
| 04:24.35 | purl | ACTION slaps malreth around with a slice of edam |
| 04:24.35 | haste | fuck me backwards |
| 04:24.37 | p3lim | poor purl |
| 04:24.42 | haste | had to restart everything using sound |
| 04:24.45 | malreth | ~deus ex machina me |
| 04:24.45 | purl | Improbably at the last moment, malreth is rescued by, oh, let's say... reqol. |
| 04:24.45 | Thunder_Child | no thanks haste |
| 04:24.55 | haste | Thunder_Child: |
| 04:25.00 | haste | damn it |
| 04:25.12 | haste | never going to get used to using backspacke |
| 04:25.23 | Thunder_Child | backspake huh? |
| 04:25.27 | Thunder_Child | me either |
| 04:25.56 | haste | I blame the laptop keys |
| 04:26.11 | malreth | the bluetooth panel doesn't show up on this computer |
| 04:26.34 | DARKGuy | Doesn't blizz provide a .torrent file for patches? |
| 04:26.46 | malreth | i don't know how to disassociate a bluetooth device profile from vista |
| 04:26.50 | malreth | DARKGuy: no |
| 04:26.55 | DARKGuy | damn :( |
| 04:26.55 | malreth | not directly |
| 04:27.00 | DARKGuy | it would greatly solve things ¬¬ |
| 04:27.01 | p3lim | you can |
| 04:27.04 | malreth | but you can extract it from the blizzard downloader |
| 04:27.10 | p3lim | but they use their own client |
| 04:27.29 | DARKGuy | :| too much h4x0r involved |
| 04:27.34 | malreth | i usually just to to wowwiki and download it from a mirror site |
| 04:27.45 | DARKGuy | yeah me too :p |
| 04:27.59 | Seerah | fileplanet |
| 04:28.02 | malreth | http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors |
| 04:28.02 | DARKGuy | ew |
| 04:28.16 | malreth | there's usually a .torrent link there |
| 04:28.20 | Seerah | (hubby has paid subscription, so no wait and fast download) |
| 04:29.15 | Thunder_Child | it used to ask me, now i have to go bitch at blizz |
| 04:30.09 | DARKGuy | oh well, flashget will keep being my patch downloader :p |
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| 04:37.56 | Kraps | hey, what site do i use to paste walls of text? |
| 04:38.11 | haste | topic |
| 04:38.12 | Shirik | see /topic |
| 04:38.40 | kd3 | hate... wtb faster net |
| 04:38.53 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, " TOPIC Not enough parameters" |
| 04:39.39 | haste | you have a irc client that requires you to write /topic #WoWUIDev ? |
| 04:39.54 | Thunder_Child | mirc? |
| 04:39.58 | Kraps | i get this fatal error when load wsg http://wowuidev.pastey.net/92656 |
| 04:40.18 | Shirik | I would advise running the repair tool |
| 04:40.27 | Kraps | wheres that? |
| 04:40.29 | Shirik | it is likely one of your MPQ files got corrupted |
| 04:40.39 | Kraps | how? |
| 04:40.55 | Kraps | addons? |
| 04:41.02 | Shirik | addons don't adjust that |
| 04:41.06 | Shirik | and I don't have an answer for you |
| 04:41.14 | Shirik | It is very possible a butterfly caused your problem |
| 04:41.31 | Kraps | butterfly? |
| 04:41.32 | Thunder_Child | Kraps, the repair tool is in your wow folder |
| 04:41.33 | malreth | or neutrinos |
| 04:42.07 | Shirik | Yes, a butterfly flaps its wings causing a slight ripple in the air which forms a form of a lens, focusing cosmic rays onto your hard drive inverting a particular bit that was necessary |
| 04:42.24 | ScytheBlade1 | uTorrent go! |
| 04:42.27 | haste | Kraps: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory |
| 04:42.28 | malreth | no one ever suspects the butterfly |
| 04:42.39 | Kraps | a digtal butterfly? |
| 04:42.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Kraps: they're saying that it could have been caused by /anything/ |
| 04:43.10 | Kraps | ok... |
| 04:43.11 | Shirik | or more direct: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect |
| 04:43.13 | haste | don't be so direct now |
| 04:43.26 | Shirik | But yes, Kraps, the repair tool should be in your wow folder |
| 04:44.07 | Kraps | im running a check now |
| 04:48.06 | Kraps | yeah, by this MPQ file i get "World of warcraft is seriously damaged and will need to be reverted to an earlier version." |
| 04:48.26 | Shirik | yeah |
| 04:48.31 | Shirik | have it do whatever it wants to do |
| 04:48.46 | Kraps | :( |
| 05:01.29 | bleeter | which, typically, at that stage is the equiv of a complete reinstall of 2.0 and repatch from scratch |
| 05:02.46 | bleeter | Kraps: from my understanding, corrupt mpq's result more from folks Alt+F4 quitting than exiting 'normally' |
| 05:04.08 | Kraps | ah, but in my case its the red x |
| 05:04.30 | Kraps | i play windowed most of the time |
| 05:04.47 | Shirik | I do that all the time, haven't really had an issue |
| 05:04.47 | DARKGuy_ | Man, I just watched Dragon Wars T_T!! |
| 05:04.53 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* why are there no patch notes :( |
| 05:04.55 | Shirik | but really, there's no way for any of us to tell you what caused it |
| 05:05.17 | Shirik | honestly, it shouldn't matter how you quit; the MPQ should not be touched by WoW |
| 05:05.18 | Shirik | only read |
| 05:06.07 | DARKGuy_ | T_T |
| 05:06.08 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:06.17 | ScytheBlade1 | If you're in beta and your download is sucking |
| 05:06.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Like mine is now |
| 05:06.27 | Kraps | theres no official blizz info about this issue? |
| 05:06.28 | Thunder_Child | blizz has GOT to stop taking so many liberties with my computer |
| 05:06.46 | DARKGuy | why? |
| 05:07.04 | Thunder_Child | because it auto launches everything, and decides where it wants to put stuff |
| 05:07.10 | Thunder_Child | pissing me off |
| 05:07.16 | DARKGuy | Yay. |
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| 05:09.51 | Thunder_Child | great...patch comes down, errors spring up |
| 05:10.34 | ScytheBlade1 | That's generally what happens, yes |
| 05:10.36 | Thunder_Child | pets/companion/mounts tab is broken |
| 05:11.14 | kd3 | 4m... c'mon wget! |
| 05:11.15 | kd3 | faster, faster! |
| 05:11.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Let me kill the torrent |
| 05:11.34 | DARKGuy | lol you're wgetting it |
| 05:11.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Speeds should jump |
| 05:11.38 | DARKGuy | d4x ftw |
| 05:11.57 | kd3 | meh, whoever runs wirebrain posted a codeen'ed mirror. <3 |
| 05:12.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
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| 05:15.46 | kd3 | yay download done... c'mon patcher |
| 05:16.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah I'm patching my linux box now |
| 05:16.06 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm curious just how broken mounts are |
| 05:16.39 | Thunder_Child | well according to cog|away, there is no way to get a mount you cant buy atm |
| 05:16.55 | kd3 | which, considering it's beta, doesn't bother me too much |
| 05:17.00 | kd3 | both of my reg mounts are buyable |
| 05:17.11 | ScytheBlade1 | My flyer is 1600g... |
| 05:17.12 | kd3 | just a quick jaunt to smv and nagrand |
| 05:17.13 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 05:17.20 | Thunder_Child | still, having to go buy my mount is iritating |
| 05:17.27 | kd3 | it's... beta? |
| 05:18.06 | Thunder_Child | well, doesnt mean they have to make the items in our inven useless |
| 05:18.21 | kd3 | it's a bug, it'll be getting fixed |
| 05:18.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Broke stuff is broke in a beta. News at 11. |
| 05:18.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Logging in now |
| 05:18.51 | Thunder_Child | hey hey hey, i'm gonna whine when i want to |
| 05:18.59 | Thunder_Child | betas should be perfect |
| 05:19.08 | ScytheBlade1 | As should all software. |
| 05:19.10 | Guillotine | wait, whats happening? |
| 05:19.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Guillotine: tell you in a sec! |
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| 05:19.20 | Thunder_Child | Guillotine, issues with teh patch |
| 05:19.30 | Fisker- | mounts are broken apparently |
| 05:19.37 | Guillotine | how so? |
| 05:19.38 | Thunder_Child | no, you just have to go buy them |
| 05:19.46 | Thunder_Child | the ones in your inven are "out of charges" |
| 05:19.46 | ScytheBlade1 | WHOA |
| 05:19.49 | kd3 | the mounts we had in our inventory before this patch can't be used |
| 05:19.53 | ScytheBlade1 | MANA REGENNING MORE THAN ONCE PER TICK |
| 05:19.57 | Guillotine | o.O |
| 05:20.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Ticks now happen multiple times per second |
| 05:20.04 | Thunder_Child | also i get random FrameXML issues |
| 05:20.08 | Guillotine | Scythe: try logging on a rogue :) |
| 05:20.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Guillotine: hahaha that's going to be win |
| 05:20.36 | kd3 | lmao, talk about op |
| 05:20.41 | kd3 | wonder what happens for warriors? |
| 05:21.02 | ScytheBlade1 | My mount is broke |
| 05:21.04 | batrick | so anyway, if anyone hasn't said yet: hurray: mage changes |
| 05:21.07 | ScytheBlade1 | I use it, "No charges remain" |
| 05:21.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Guillotine: ^ |
| 05:21.17 | batrick | those fixes to the arcane tree were a LONG TIME IN COMING |
| 05:21.19 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, go buy it |
| 05:21.21 | Keias | batrick, I'm sad with the Arcane Blast changes :( |
| 05:21.34 | batrick | I dunno I was never that into arcane |
| 05:21.41 | batrick | but the first couple teirs have always blowed |
| 05:21.41 | ScytheBlade1 | It's my black battlestrider :( |
| 05:21.42 | Thunder_Child | what i want to know is why the patcher didnt come with patch notes |
| 05:21.49 | batrick | 3 years apparently it takes blizzard to realize that : / |
| 05:21.52 | Keias | I'm one of the 40/0/21 suckers that's gunna cry when my set bonus gets nerfed |
| 05:21.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Because they didn't write any |
| 05:22.32 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, disturbingly sad and factual |
| 05:22.38 | batrick | So is it correct now that blastwave is the only player ability (across all characters and items) that knocks someone back? |
| 05:22.41 | ScytheBlade1 | ! |
| 05:22.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Ironforge is dark at night now! |
| 05:23.00 | Thunder_Child | batrick, bad breath |
| 05:23.06 | batrick | huh? |
| 05:23.11 | kd3 | lol |
| 05:23.13 | Shirik | batbot, does batrick have bad breath? |
| 05:23.14 | batbot | Shirik, Yes. |
| 05:23.16 | Thunder_Child | ~sigh batrick |
| 05:23.17 | purl | ACTION sighs, rolls its eyes and shakes its head, "batrick!" |
| 05:23.17 | batrick | ... |
| 05:23.33 | batrick | no one answered my question QQ |
| 05:23.40 | batrick | imma go emo ! |
| 05:23.52 | Thunder_Child | i ididnt even know there was knockback |
| 05:23.52 | kd3 | interface diffs up in a sec |
| 05:23.54 | Thunder_Child | so shoo |
| 05:23.59 | Shirik | batrick|emo: What question? |
| 05:23.59 | kd3 | anyone not on my list want a copy? |
| 05:24.02 | Sixen | <3 |
| 05:24.08 | batrick|emo | 23:22:38 < batrick> So is it correct now that blastwave is the only player ability (across all characters and items) that knocks someone back? |
| 05:24.08 | Sixen | What am I missing, dee3. |
| 05:24.09 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, "batrick: So is it correct now that blastwave is the only player ability (across all characters and items) that knocks someone back?" |
| 05:24.29 | Thunder_Child | kd3, how is it read? |
| 05:24.30 | Sixen | Kd3, new patch? |
| 05:24.39 | Shirik | I can't think of any others |
| 05:24.45 | kd3 | beta, ya |
| 05:24.54 | Guillotine | Theres the new shammy ability |
| 05:24.58 | Guillotine | and new druid ability |
| 05:24.59 | Guillotine | typhoon |
| 05:25.10 | kd3 | tc; I generate them with diff. if you can read .diff output, you can read what I'm about to send |
| 05:25.34 | Thunder_Child | cant read .diff :( |
| 05:25.47 | kd3 | notepad works |
| 05:25.48 | batrick|emo | kd3 do you have a mage on beta? Can you confirm that Brainfreeze is instant fireball and not frostbolt? |
| 05:25.59 | kd3 | bat; sec. pulling stuff out of the mpqs atm |
| 05:26.03 | batrick|emo | ok thx :) |
| 05:26.21 | p3lim | anyone here that can help me a bit with LibButtonFacade? |
| 05:26.23 | Thunder_Child | batrick|emo, yes |
| 05:26.26 | Thunder_Child | http://www.mmo-champion.com/talent/?mage |
| 05:26.29 | Thunder_Child | new talents |
| 05:26.31 | Thunder_Child | already |
| 05:26.33 | batrick|emo | I was hoping that was a typo |
| 05:26.40 | batrick|emo | sorta |
| 05:26.42 | Duman | kd3: thx |
| 05:26.52 | batrick|emo | It felt kinda random |
| 05:26.58 | Thunder_Child | ya kd3, i'll take a copy then please |
| 05:27.04 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:27.19 | batrick|emo | but jeeze isnt' that high? ALL frost dmg spells give 15% chance to proc instant fireball? |
| 05:27.22 | batrick|emo | that's so nice |
| 05:27.57 | batrick|emo | I'm going to have to put fireball on my bars again lol! |
| 05:28.09 | Duman | whoa |
| 05:28.50 | ScytheBlade1 | wow fire changes |
| 05:28.50 | ScytheBlade1 | WOW |
| 05:28.55 | batrick|emo | they did some pretty random shit in the frost tree |
| 05:29.05 | batrick|emo | like imp water elemental heals your raid ... what ? |
| 05:29.10 | ScytheBlade1 | blastwave DOES knock people back |
| 05:29.18 | Thunder_Child | wow, living bomb is even better, and it STILL has no cooldown |
| 05:29.18 | kd3 | o_O; |
| 05:29.25 | kd3 | I have a new favorite skill up at the mill in AB |
| 05:29.47 | ScytheBlade1 | So much truth |
| 05:29.54 | batrick|emo | what skill up? |
| 05:30.22 | Guillotine | wow, imp fire elemental is crazy |
| 05:30.29 | Guillotine | water elemental* |
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| 05:30.56 | ScytheBlade1 | :o |
| 05:31.08 | Duman | wow, so is 'http://www.mmo-champion.com/talent/' up to date w/ the latest beta push? |
| 05:31.18 | Duman | (still DLing) |
| 05:31.37 | Duman | <10:29PM ScytheBlade1> blastwave DOES knock people back |
| 05:31.38 | Thunder_Child | Duman, afaik yes |
| 05:31.39 | Duman | oh, snap |
| 05:31.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Duman: 01:06 < ScytheBlade1> http://files.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Patches/Beta/PC/WoW-3.0.1.8634-to-3.0.1.8681-enUS-patch.exe |
| 05:31.50 | ScytheBlade1 | If that's faster than whatever you have |
| 05:31.56 | NightHawkTheSane | huh, those are some pretty neat druid glyphs. |
| 05:32.01 | Duman | sbo: actually it's just finishing... time to patch now :) |
| 05:32.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 05:32.18 | Duman | thx tho |
| 05:32.27 | ScytheBlade1 | asdfasdaskldfjasdkfh |
| 05:32.30 | ScytheBlade1 | I have NO IDEA HOW TO SPEC NOW |
| 05:32.36 | kd3 | rofl |
| 05:32.53 | ScytheBlade1 | This is a first in /years/ that they've made this many changes to mages |
| 05:32.53 | batrick|emo | ScytheBlade1: ya I bet |
| 05:33.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Every tier of fire has been entirely reworked |
| 05:33.03 | batrick|emo | mage talent trees are awesome now |
| 05:33.06 | batrick|emo | for the first time ever |
| 05:33.14 | batrick|emo | are all awesome* |
| 05:33.22 | NightHawkTheSane | i wonder if this will make me want to not gouge my eyes out when playing my mage |
| 05:33.50 | batrick|emo | Mage |
| 05:33.52 | batrick|emo | * Glyph of the Penguin - Empowers a Minor Glyph to cause your Polymorph: Sheep spell to turn the target into a baby penguin. |
| 05:34.07 | Duman | haha |
| 05:34.12 | kd3 | lmao, I logged in with a breath bar standing at fizzcrank |
| 05:34.15 | batrick|emo | What's the deal with that? Is that like a "fluff" Glyph (minor) that you spend on stuff? |
| 05:34.29 | Guillotine | yup |
| 05:34.31 | Thunder_Child | ya |
| 05:34.33 | Duman | wait, so we can see the glyphs now? |
| 05:34.36 | Duman | or are you reading notes |
| 05:34.39 | batrick|emo | I don't get why we don't just get a new spell |
| 05:34.45 | NightHawkTheSane | reading mmo-champion i assume |
| 05:34.48 | Duman | ahh |
| 05:34.49 | batrick|emo | look at mmo-champion |
| 05:34.51 | Thunder_Child | are all minor glyphs fluff? |
| 05:34.58 | Bibi | you know I've got a highlight on "mmo-champion" right ? |
| 05:35.02 | Bibi | you just love toying with me |
| 05:35.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: more or less, i think that's the intention |
| 05:35.02 | Bibi | :( |
| 05:35.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Bibi: really? that's odd, taht you'd have a mmo-champion highlight |
| 05:35.21 | Bibi | I hate you. |
| 05:35.26 | Thunder_Child | Bibi, really? didnt know that, now i will have to start posting it more |
| 05:35.26 | NightHawkTheSane | cause, i mean, people could say mmo-champion a lot. |
| 05:35.29 | Bibi | .... :( |
| 05:35.33 | NightHawkTheSane | and not really be referring (mmo-champion) to you. |
| 05:35.37 | Thunder_Child | mmo-champion is a lovely thing to say |
| 05:35.38 | NightHawkTheSane | ;) |
| 05:35.58 | Duman | wow |
| 05:36.18 | Duman | whoa, interesting ret pally ability - remove stuns w/ HoFreedom |
| 05:36.22 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane, for ease of use |
| 05:36.24 | Duman | that is hradcore |
| 05:36.24 | Thunder_Child | ~mmoc |
| 05:36.25 | purl | http://www.mmo-champion.com |
| 05:36.39 | bleeter | Glyph of the Penguin.. lawl |
| 05:36.41 | NightHawkTheSane | you're my hero, Thunder_Child |
| 05:36.50 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane, damn right |
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| 05:41.45 | bleeter | waaaaa no more baby seal cub club :'( |
| 05:42.06 | |Jelly| | ?? |
| 05:42.16 | kd3 | scroll up/check beta general |
| 05:42.20 | kd3 | mounts broke this build |
| 05:42.29 | bleeter | oO |
| 05:43.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Nerf AoE knockback |
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| 05:44.36 | Fisker- | that was your fault kd3 |
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| 05:46.36 | Fisker- | OH U kd3 |
| 05:46.42 | Fisker- | skeletal gryphon rawr |
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| 05:48.33 | Fisker- | oh |
| 05:48.37 | Fisker- | can't even use it i see |
| 05:48.38 | Fisker- | ;_; |
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| 05:52.20 | ScytheBlade1 | That is one EPIC potion nerf |
| 05:52.28 | Thunder_Child | lol kd3, i had a diff viewer and didnt even know |
| 05:52.40 | kd3 | heh |
| 05:52.43 | Fisker- | what epic potions did they nerf? |
| 05:52.49 | kd3 | all of em? |
| 05:52.52 | Thunder_Child | thanks again |
| 05:52.56 | kd3 | can only use one pot in combat iirc |
| 05:52.58 | Fisker- | kd3 didn't see what i did there |
| 05:53.03 | Fisker- | xD? |
| 05:53.06 | Keias | one pot in combat? |
| 05:53.09 | NightHawkTheSane | what? one pot in combat? |
| 05:53.33 | kd3 | that's what I've been hearing. no word if it's true or not |
| 05:53.36 | Keias | Regardless of how long you're in combat? |
| 05:53.43 | kd3 | soon as I land I'll whack some mob and see what happens |
| 05:53.47 | Diao | lol |
| 05:53.51 | Diao | that'll nerf tanks severely |
| 05:53.58 | Keias | Everyone :/ |
| 05:53.58 | NightHawkTheSane | and healers. |
| 05:54.02 | Keias | I chain chug pots on my mage |
| 05:54.04 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got a screenshot that I'm trying to upload |
| 05:54.05 | kd3 | and mages |
| 05:54.11 | NightHawkTheSane | and, well, anyone that uses mana. |
| 05:54.15 | Keias | :P |
| 05:54.20 | Diao | except locks |
| 05:54.21 | Diao | they cheat |
| 05:54.41 | NightHawkTheSane | fuck locks, no one likes them anyway |
| 05:54.49 | Keias | lol |
| 05:55.08 | Diao | agreed |
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| 05:55.32 | |Jelly| | Is blackmail against the rules? |
| 05:55.47 | Thunder_Child | |Jelly|, not as long as it is ingame |
| 05:55.53 | DARKGuy | lmao |
| 05:55.54 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Wrath/WoWScrnShot_072808_235654.jpg |
| 05:55.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Potion nerf |
| 05:56.14 | DARKGuy | That's retarded |
| 05:56.23 | haste | selecting urls with touchpad... is impossibl! |
| 05:56.35 | DARKGuy | buy a new touchpad! :D |
| 05:56.37 | kd3 | it can't stay. that breaks everything |
| 05:56.44 | Thunder_Child | so is typeing it seems haste |
| 05:57.16 | kd3 | ooh, the new acherus is nice |
| 05:57.18 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: what's taht you have 4-5 stacks of in that one primal mooncloth bag? |
| 05:57.30 | kd3 | the northrend cloth |
| 05:57.30 | haste | Thunder_Child: I miss my IBM keyboard :( |
| 05:57.32 | ScytheBlade1 | NightHawkTheSane: Frostweave Cloth |
| 05:57.33 | bleeter | wth.... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8537704078&sid=1 |
| 05:57.34 | ScytheBlade1 | what kd3 said |
| 05:57.35 | NightHawkTheSane | ah. neat |
| 05:57.39 | bleeter | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:57.40 | batrick|emo | anyone know how to make a regexp (not Lua) to match both a sole word and only when it's not surrounded by other characters? |
| 05:57.45 | bleeter | Unfortunately our supervisor has no idea as the merger is fairly new, and isn't of any help. |
| 05:57.50 | Thunder_Child | haste, I Buy Mac keyboard? |
| 05:57.52 | bleeter | Yah most of our higher ups make fun of us that do play -_- |
| 05:57.59 | bleeter | ^^^ wth lol @ activision |
| 05:58.07 | haste | Thunder_Child: :'( |
| 05:58.09 | bleeter | 'make fun of activision staff who play WoW' |
| 05:58.24 | batrick|emo | that is, "dog" matches "dog" and "this dog" but not "doggard" |
| 05:58.34 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Wrath/WoWScrnShot_072808_235836.jpg <-- mounts |
| 05:59.22 | DARKGuy | "I didn't know Blizzard thought Activision employees were as special as they think they are." <- lmao |
| 06:00.31 | NightHawkTheSane | bleeter: /\bdog\b/ |
| 06:00.34 | NightHawkTheSane | er, woops |
| 06:00.44 | NightHawkTheSane | s/bleeter/batrick|emo/ |
| 06:00.47 | NightHawkTheSane | bah. |
| 06:01.38 | bleeter | aww thread deleted :( |
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| 06:04.01 | Fisker- | damnit |
| 06:04.07 | Fisker- | bugged shit, etc. |
| 06:04.21 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8537884122&postId=85368160258&sid=2000#1 |
| 06:04.28 | batrick|emo | Is it me or should Poly Penguin be a spell and not a glyph replacing poly: sheep? |
| 06:04.31 | batrick|emo | seems kinda lame :S |
| 06:05.02 | Arrowmaster | it says minor glyph |
| 06:05.09 | NightHawkTheSane | it's just you |
| 06:05.11 | Arrowmaster | guessing thats like the lowest one |
| 06:05.12 | batrick|emo | still, it's REPLACING poly: sheep |
| 06:05.52 | bleeter | yeah, not happy about replacing |
| 06:06.03 | Arrowmaster | atleast its not turtle |
| 06:06.18 | bleeter | turtle's prolly soloable @ 80 =)) |
| 06:06.33 | Arrowmaster | lol it almost is at 70 |
| 06:06.44 | bleeter | so hmm maybe that is the 'free' poly spell.. kinda |
| 06:06.46 | Arrowmaster | one of my guild members 2boxed it |
| 06:06.50 | Arrowmaster | warrior and pally |
| 06:06.57 | ScytheBlade1 | You can now see HP values on ALL UNITS. |
| 06:07.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Friendly, hostile, whatever. |
| 06:07.07 | kd3 | goodbye mobhealth! |
| 06:07.10 | kd3 | zOMG |
| 06:07.15 | Arrowmaster | wow |
| 06:07.29 | NightHawkTheSane | neat. |
| 06:07.43 | NightHawkTheSane | no more guessing how much health the boss had on that 1% wipe, i guess. ;) |
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| 06:08.09 | Duman | wow |
| 06:08.11 | bleeter | i dunno, i don't like knowing buffs and health on first encounter, kinda takes a lot of the mystery away |
| 06:08.12 | Duman | client just crashed |
| 06:08.13 | Arrowmaster | yeah since all % are rounded down |
| 06:08.21 | Arrowmaster | so 1% is really 2% |
| 06:08.27 | bleeter | which is really 3% |
| 06:08.33 | bleeter | which rounds up to 5% |
| 06:08.37 | bleeter | ;) |
| 06:08.54 | NightHawkTheSane | of course, people were just exaggerating anyway, so it was really 15%, but who's counting |
| 06:09.22 | Guillotine | and the boss started at 30%, so it was really 50% |
| 06:09.34 | bleeter | which is really 100% |
| 06:09.43 | bleeter | just scaled to 50% so it doesn't look at nasty |
| 06:09.50 | bleeter | er s/at/as/ |
| 06:10.10 | Diao | hmm |
| 06:10.28 | Diao | why not just remove tanking from warriors now that pallies have all their abilities + shield wall every 5 min? |
| 06:10.29 | Diao | :p |
| 06:10.51 | Guillotine | WTB a dual-wielding shields ability for warrs |
| 06:11.10 | bleeter | haha yeah id level that |
| 06:11.58 | kd3 | bah. wtb a "down" portal in ebon hold |
| 06:12.07 | kd3 | can get between floors 1 and 2, but can't get to the ground or fly out |
| 06:12.34 | Arrowmaster | because of mount issue? |
| 06:13.02 | kd3 | just walking around |
| 06:13.08 | kd3 | I've already bought new mounts |
| 06:13.18 | kd3 | they've redone ebon hold |
| 06:14.00 | Fisker- | SICK SICK SICK |
| 06:14.41 | Fisker- | man |
| 06:14.47 | Fisker- | i'm doing like double damage on my dk :D |
| 06:14.52 | p3lim | haste: you gonna play beta? |
| 06:14.57 | Fisker- | found out if you can learn flying skill yet kd3 ? |
| 06:15.14 | kd3 | my mage already rebought his nether drake |
| 06:15.19 | kd3 | dks are still broken |
| 06:15.52 | p3lim | ScytheBlade1: where did you read that about HP values? |
| 06:16.06 | kd3 | p3; we're in-game |
| 06:16.11 | kd3 | looking at hostile mobs. ;) |
| 06:16.34 | nevcairiel | who knows if its a permanent change |
| 06:16.38 | Duman | yeah it works |
| 06:16.48 | ScytheBlade1 | p3lim: it's in-game |
| 06:16.57 | p3lim | beta? |
| 06:17.06 | Duman | yes, beta |
| 06:17.07 | p3lim | as in, newest build? |
| 06:17.11 | Duman | yes |
| 06:17.15 | p3lim | neat |
| 06:17.16 | Duman | mana regen also no longer "ticks" |
| 06:17.18 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Wrath/WoWScrnShot_072908_000911.jpg |
| 06:17.20 | p3lim | byebye MobHealth indead |
| 06:17.21 | ScytheBlade1 | HP values |
| 06:17.22 | Duman | it's a smooth upcount |
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| 06:18.11 | p3lim | ScytheBlade1: your mage? |
| 06:18.14 | Rabbitbunny | Where would I find the manuals for a the dewdrop library? |
| 06:18.23 | Fisker- | this damage is sick kd3 |
| 06:18.39 | ScytheBlade1 | p3lim: look at my target |
| 06:18.51 | p3lim | yea, i see, but is it your mage? |
| 06:19.00 | ScytheBlade1 | That is my mage yes |
| 06:19.11 | p3lim | whats that spell on 1 |
| 06:19.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Living Bomb |
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| 06:19.39 | p3lim | ah cool |
| 06:19.49 | p3lim | thats a talent, innit? |
| 06:19.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes |
| 06:20.09 | p3lim | cant wait for my beta key :F |
| 06:20.14 | haste | p3lim: not much playing most likely |
| 06:20.21 | p3lim | what shall I play, druid or rogue? |
| 06:20.24 | p3lim | haste: ok :) |
| 06:20.34 | haste | will probably be like the TBC alpha |
| 06:20.58 | batrick|emo | 00:06:18 < bleeter> turtle's prolly soloable @ 80 =)) |
| 06:20.58 | batrick|emo | 00:06:33 < Arrowmaster> lol it almost is at 70 |
| 06:21.02 | batrick|emo | uhm, what? |
| 06:21.07 | haste | I did level to 67 eventually tho' |
| 06:21.18 | batrick|emo | you can't even come close to soloing fish boss in ZG at 70 |
| 06:21.25 | batrick|emo | you might do... 5% dmg before dying |
| 06:21.31 | p3lim | at release i remember i went 60-70 on my rogue in 4 days |
| 06:21.46 | p3lim | lvled with 3 other guys, one of them beeing a healer :p |
| 06:22.02 | p3lim | good times |
| 06:22.14 | haste | I was so sick of leveling when TBC came, so I did it pretty slow |
| 06:22.14 | Arrowmaster | batrick|emo: warrior in my guild 2boxed it with a pally, and said he didnt heal that much |
| 06:22.23 | batrick|emo | ya a war and healer |
| 06:22.27 | Corrodias | yeah, those 20m raid bosses are a bit much, i think |
| 06:22.27 | p3lim | haste: yeah I noticed that :) |
| 06:22.32 | batrick|emo | I'm talking about a mage (the only class with reason to solo it) |
| 06:22.57 | haste | how did you notice that :P ? |
| 06:23.05 | NightHawkTheSane | batrick|emo: the book is not bop... |
| 06:23.09 | Arrowmaster | oh hell no a mage will never be able to solo it |
| 06:23.17 | NightHawkTheSane | so really, it doesn't matter what class solos it.. |
| 06:23.19 | batrick|emo | NightHawkTheSane: other than financial gains |
| 06:23.29 | p3lim | you not beeing 70 on ui screenshots :) |
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| 06:23.58 | batrick|emo | I was hoping I could duo fish boss on my fully decked pvp mage (tank it) with a healer friend |
| 06:23.59 | p3lim | and having just-hit-70 gear for a long while |
| 06:24.10 | batrick|emo | he'd do half my health in under 5 seconds |
| 06:24.29 | p3lim | seen warriors solo panther boss |
| 06:24.30 | haste | when did TBC get released? |
| 06:24.38 | Fisker- | btw |
| 06:24.39 | p3lim | uhm feb i think |
| 06:24.41 | Fisker- | inbuilt mobhealth now? |
| 06:24.42 | Arrowmaster | seen warriors solo garr |
| 06:24.43 | p3lim | last year |
| 06:24.47 | p3lim | Fisker-: yup :) |
| 06:24.48 | haste | I was 67 at jan 25 |
| 06:24.51 | batrick|emo | It'd be nice if they just make a quest for poly turtle |
| 06:24.56 | haste | so it can't have been feb |
| 06:24.58 | batrick|emo | having us go back and kill ZG boss is pretty lame |
| 06:25.01 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 06:25.05 | ScytheBlade1 | me: Man this build is -awesome- |
| 06:25.06 | p3lim | i dont remember |
| 06:25.07 | Fisker- | thank god p3lim |
| 06:25.07 | ScytheBlade1 | *server dies* |
| 06:25.10 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:25.13 | Duman | world server assplodes |
| 06:25.15 | p3lim | Fisker-: indeed, no more guessing ;D |
| 06:25.16 | NightHawkTheSane | batrick|emo: it's hardly a required thing :P |
| 06:25.18 | Duman | hopefully hotfixing ;) |
| 06:25.27 | p3lim | Fisker-: you saw the pic? |
| 06:25.29 | Thunder_Child | see ScytheBlade1, it IS you |
| 06:25.32 | batrick|emo | NightHawkTheSane: what does that have to do with anything -_- |
| 06:25.38 | nevcairiel | haste: 16 jan or so |
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| 06:25.51 | haste | then I wasn't so slow |
| 06:25.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: so it is |
| 06:25.52 | ScytheBlade1 | :( |
| 06:26.08 | p3lim | but you did take it easy for a while, i remember that |
| 06:26.39 | p3lim | dont know how you are doing now tho |
| 06:26.47 | haste | I hate leveling, so no wonder |
| 06:26.53 | p3lim | leveling is fun |
| 06:26.55 | p3lim | :D |
| 06:27.05 | haste | I did 1 to 70 on the priest pretty fast tho |
| 06:27.20 | p3lim | that i did notice :) |
| 06:27.25 | p3lim | used TourGuide or something on it? |
| 06:27.26 | Arrowmaster | i never level my alts, i cant stand it |
| 06:27.29 | Diao | so uh |
| 06:27.39 | haste | nothing |
| 06:27.46 | Diao | now that paladins get 2 minute seal durations.. can warriors get their shout durations increased to 5 minutes base? :P |
| 06:27.46 | p3lim | i leveled my druid once you hit 40 or something on your priest |
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| 06:28.22 | haste | ten days to 60, with lots of stuff happening as it was just after x-mas |
| 06:28.31 | Arrowmaster | slow |
| 06:28.33 | cncfanatics | g'morning |
| 06:28.41 | Arrowmaster | unless you mean 10 irl days |
| 06:28.44 | p3lim | bout same as me |
| 06:28.47 | haste | ten irl days |
| 06:28.53 | Guillotine | I actually kind of like IF darker. Seems more like night time |
| 06:28.54 | Arrowmaster | ingame days? |
| 06:29.03 | haste | no idea |
| 06:29.23 | haste | don't have WoW here |
| 06:29.40 | Thunder_Child | ~fail haste |
| 06:29.41 | purl | haste: FAIL! |
| 06:29.45 | kd3 | rofl at the [Friend of Fowl?] achievement |
| 06:29.48 | kd3 | slay 15 turkeys in 3m |
| 06:30.05 | Arrowmaster | turkeys? |
| 06:30.08 | p3lim | i wish Census+ was more accurate |
| 06:30.11 | haste | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 06:30.11 | purl | pries Thunder_Child's back open with a screwdriver and flashes a new bootldr to Thunder_Child |
| 06:30.23 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Fjord_Turkey |
| 06:30.24 | ScytheBlade1 | fyi: my /WoW/Wrath/ directory is automatically updated and uploaded every 15 minutes... |
| 06:30.42 | ScytheBlade1 | And I've screenshotted a bunch of stuff |
| 06:32.18 | p3lim | kd3: lol, nice find |
| 06:33.54 | p3lim | ScytheBlade1: url? |
| 06:34.18 | ScytheBlade1 | p3lim: http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Wrath/ |
| 06:35.06 | p3lim | oh god, did the DK's get skeleton birdies? UNFAIR! |
| 06:35.42 | NightHawkTheSane | looks like a 60% flying mount anyway. |
| 06:35.42 | p3lim | hm the new calendar looks awesome, but its huge! |
| 06:35.58 | ScytheBlade1 | They'll have an epic version of it |
| 06:36.00 | ScytheBlade1 | You know they will |
| 06:36.26 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 06:36.29 | ScytheBlade1 | read the tooltip |
| 06:36.33 | NightHawkTheSane | if it's like druid swift form, i'd be cool with it. :P |
| 06:36.34 | ScytheBlade1 | "Speed scales to riding skill." |
| 06:36.37 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 06:36.38 | p3lim | ScytheBlade1: you able to get a picture of that mount in action? |
| 06:36.52 | ScytheBlade1 | p3lim: in a bit maybe |
| 06:36.56 | p3lim | cool :) |
| 06:37.04 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: heh, nice. |
| 06:37.14 | p3lim | ScytheBlade1: playing on us? |
| 06:37.45 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 06:37.47 | p3lim | ok |
| 06:38.04 | p3lim | hm is it just me, or did they remove the Lag thingie on the MainMenuBar? |
| 06:38.26 | kd3 | it'll be part of the main menu button now. monitor changes colors... green/yellow/red |
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| 06:39.09 | cncfanatics | does anyone know if setfenv is expensive ? |
| 06:39.25 | ScytheBlade1 | ha, and I now have 950 achievement points |
| 06:39.33 | kd3 | I'm in the 1100s... |
| 06:39.35 | kd3 | >.> |
| 06:39.37 | Thunder_Child | p3lim, yes, i saw that as well |
| 06:39.37 | p3lim | kd3: the Computer-iconed button? |
| 06:39.40 | kd3 | yes |
| 06:39.43 | p3lim | ah neat |
| 06:39.57 | Fisker- | they need to buff death knights |
| 06:40.00 | p3lim | explains how they were able to fit all the buttons down there |
| 06:40.04 | cncfanatics | Fisker-: no ? |
| 06:40.08 | Fisker- | yes! |
| 06:40.15 | Fisker- | i can barely oneshot mobs |
| 06:40.18 | kd3 | the pvp icon's new too, isn't it? |
| 06:40.20 | cncfanatics | Fisker-: paladins own them anyway |
| 06:40.26 | cncfanatics | its liek, diseases lol |
| 06:40.42 | Fisker- | :( |
| 06:41.14 | cncfanatics | !!!!!! |
| 06:41.15 | cncfanatics | Glyph of the White Bear |
| 06:41.17 | cncfanatics | guess what it does |
| 06:41.24 | ckknight | turns your bear white? |
| 06:41.35 | NightHawkTheSane | turns YOU white. |
| 06:41.37 | ScytheBlade1 | It turns the druid into a polar bear |
| 06:41.39 | cncfanatics | makes your shapeshift dire bear ability turn you into a polar bear |
| 06:41.40 | NightHawkTheSane | (in bear0 |
| 06:41.41 | cncfanatics | W0000T |
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| 06:41.52 | ckknight | that is cool |
| 06:41.56 | Thunder_Child | Glyph of the White Bear - Changes the appearance of your bear and dire bear forms to that of a polar bear. " |
| 06:42.23 | cncfanatics | that rocks |
| 06:42.28 | cncfanatics | I hope they make some decent one for tree form |
| 06:42.34 | p3lim | I like the "pets" tab alot |
| 06:42.40 | ckknight | awesomesauce |
| 06:42.46 | ckknight | now I won't feel bad about having a pet |
| 06:42.54 | ckknight | I always hated that I had to lose a bag slot |
| 06:43.01 | Thunder_Child | FLUFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 06:43.16 | cncfanatics | Thunder_Child: NICE FLUFF |
| 06:43.19 | zenzio | I will have so much more space when mounts and vanity pets don't take bag space |
| 06:43.25 | Arrowmaster | same |
| 06:43.38 | Arrowmaster | i might even end up going and buying tons of mounts i dont have |
| 06:43.48 | zenzio | now if I could only convince myself to stop lugging around my fishing hat |
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| 06:43.52 | p3lim | anyone checked old dalran lot in the new build yet? |
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| 06:44.46 | cncfanatics | p3lim: is the new dalaran up yet ? |
| 06:44.47 | p3lim | ScytheBlade1: what instance is this?: http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Wrath/WoWScrnShot_072708_211044.jpg |
| 06:44.54 | p3lim | cncfanatics: seems so, yes |
| 06:45.08 | p3lim | cncfanatics: http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Wrath/WoWScrnShot_072708_232820.jpg |
| 06:45.23 | cncfanatics | I WANT TO SEE IT |
| 06:46.15 | cncfanatics | I wanted to see it since my first char ever hit 40 |
| 06:46.53 | kd3 | p3lim, that's drak'tharon |
| 06:46.58 | Arrowmaster | wait token tab on char frame? |
| 06:47.05 | Arrowmaster | whats that for? |
| 06:47.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got more screenshots being converted and uploaded now |
| 06:47.10 | p3lim | kd3: oh.. ok |
| 06:47.12 | cncfanatics | heroci tokes, BG tokens, etc |
| 06:47.13 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster: |
| 06:47.14 | NightHawkTheSane | pvp tokens etc |
| 06:47.18 | Arrowmaster | FUCK YES |
| 06:47.27 | Arrowmaster | ive always hated those damn things |
| 06:47.27 | cncfanatics | they're adding lots of nice fluff |
| 06:47.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Apparently a ton of them because I'm at 4 minutes of CPU time on the convert... |
| 06:47.49 | p3lim | kd3: all i know about Dalaran is that its controlled by mages and is floating in the air.. i saw a flying city and i though "oh, dalaran" |
| 06:47.58 | Arrowmaster | between tokens mounts and pets i might free up a whole 20slot bag |
| 06:48.03 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:48.19 | p3lim | ScytheBlade1: convert? |
| 06:48.38 | Thunder_Child | p3lim, read wowwiki |
| 06:48.43 | Thunder_Child | it has teh storyline |
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| 06:48.51 | cncfanatics | lua> meta = {}; function test() end; time = os.time(); for i = 1, 10000 do setfenv(test, meta); end print(os.time() -time); |
| 06:48.51 | lua_bot | cncfanatics: 0 |
| 06:48.55 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 06:49.00 | cncfanatics | zero ? |
| 06:49.15 | p3lim | Arrowmaster: PvP tokens, Intance tokens (badges etc), Pets and Mounts are gone from inventory now :) |
| 06:49.33 | cncfanatics | well, nearly no extra slots for me |
| 06:49.34 | Arrowmaster | cncfanatics: os.time() might not be the best for that |
| 06:49.38 | cncfanatics | just one mount in my inv & no pets :p |
| 06:49.40 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster: which one to use ? |
| 06:49.49 | Arrowmaster | try ingame with GetTime() |
| 06:49.50 | p3lim | And Im betting 24slots to be added to the game in not too long |
| 06:50.09 | cncfanatics | I'm at work |
| 06:50.11 | cncfanatics | can't do shit ingame |
| 06:50.15 | p3lim | I already have 20 slots x13, almost empty all of them |
| 06:50.22 | cncfanatics | lua> print(os.time()); |
| 06:50.22 | lua_bot | cncfanatics: 1217314222 |
| 06:50.26 | Arrowmaster | try with a standalone lua then |
| 06:50.27 | cncfanatics | seems to be quite precise |
| 06:50.31 | Arrowmaster | its not |
| 06:50.34 | Arrowmaster | its 1sec |
| 06:50.42 | p3lim | lua> print(os.time()) |
| 06:50.42 | lua_bot | p3lim: 1217314242 |
| 06:50.47 | p3lim | what time is that? |
| 06:50.52 | Arrowmaster | epoch |
| 06:50.56 | cncfanatics | seconds since unix epoch ? |
| 06:50.58 | nevcairiel | yup, unix epoch |
| 06:51.00 | Arrowmaster | seconds since epoch |
| 06:51.02 | p3lim | ok |
| 06:51.19 | cncfanatics | anything in miliseconds in lua ? |
| 06:51.25 | cncfanatics | I supose os.tim() is in secs everywhere |
| 06:51.40 | Arrowmaster | i dont think so |
| 06:51.43 | p3lim | os.time() / 10 |
| 06:51.44 | p3lim | ? |
| 06:51.46 | nevcairiel | isnt GetTime() ins ms? |
| 06:51.50 | Arrowmaster | it is |
| 06:51.59 | Arrowmaster | or its seconds with ms too |
| 06:52.04 | cncfanatics | lua> print(GetTime); |
| 06:52.05 | lua_bot | cncfanatics: nil |
| 06:52.25 | nevcairiel | its a WoW API |
| 06:52.30 | cncfanatics | p3lim: if you divide second precision by 10 you still have second precision |
| 06:52.36 | nevcairiel | seconds with ms as decimal |
| 06:52.45 | cncfanatics | WTB the same in lua :p |
| 06:53.05 | p3lim | blizzards GetTime() aint that server time? |
| 06:53.14 | Arrowmaster | >Exit code: 0 Time: 0.442 |
| 06:53.25 | Arrowmaster | cncfanatics: there 0.442 |
| 06:53.37 | cncfanatics | p3lim: its system uptime in miliseconds |
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| 06:53.53 | cncfanatics | in seconds* |
| 06:53.53 | nevcairiel | i doubt lua contains a direct ms API, because its not guaranteed to be available on all embeded systems it runs on |
| 06:53.56 | cncfanatics | with ms precision |
| 06:54.17 | Arrowmaster | cncfanatics: actually i removed the os.time() stuff and its 0.2 |
| 06:54.27 | cncfanatics | 0.2 ? |
| 06:54.30 | cncfanatics | oki, means its quite cheap |
| 06:54.32 | cncfanatics | so I can abuse it |
| 06:55.09 | Arrowmaster | i abuse it for loadstring()'ing saved vars |
| 06:55.30 | cncfanatics | gonna change the quickhealth modules slightly |
| 06:55.31 | p3lim | cncfanatics: System uptime or wow uptime? |
| 06:55.37 | cncfanatics | p3lim: systelm |
| 06:55.43 | cncfanatics | it just takes windows' value of it |
| 06:55.44 | p3lim | really? |
| 06:55.46 | p3lim | ah |
| 06:55.59 | cncfanatics | windows already keeps that var and its available, so why not use it ? :p |
| 06:57.11 | syrae|slackin | quick question from a UI noob... I'm using /script ChatFrame1:AddMessage("foo") to print out the return code of things like GetNumCompanions() and the like. Some functions have multiple return values, is there any way that I can select the return value I want to print out in line? |
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| 06:58.24 | p3lim | select(#, func) |
| 06:58.37 | cncfanatics | select("#", func); eve |
| 06:58.37 | syrae|slackin | thank you :) |
| 06:58.42 | cncfanatics | s/eve/even/ |
| 06:59.03 | p3lim | # is not a string |
| 06:59.08 | syrae|slackin | yeah |
| 06:59.18 | syrae|slackin | it's not a zero index |
| 06:59.19 | syrae|slackin | interesting |
| 06:59.35 | haste | cncfanatics: remeber that I changed oUF.objects the other day, so it's an array now |
| 06:59.51 | ScytheBlade1 | stupid .tga was broke |
| 06:59.56 | ScytheBlade1 | More coming now |
| 07:00.03 | cncfanatics | haste: didn't make the module yet |
| 07:00.14 | cncfanatics | will work on it after I finished tweaking grid, sraidframes & pitbull one |
| 07:00.55 | haste | :p |
| 07:01.31 | cncfanatics | currently some weird things can occure |
| 07:01.52 | cncfanatics | if when UNIT_HEALTH triggers they try to call the UnitHealth from quickhealth before it updated |
| 07:01.56 | cncfanatics | then they'll get old dat |
| 07:01.57 | cncfanatics | data* |
| 07:01.59 | cncfanatics | which is anoying |
| 07:03.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, more are up |
| 07:04.16 | haste | cncfanatics: oUFs health code is tagged for a rewrite, so let me know if you need any changes |
| 07:04.50 | cncfanatics | well, what i basicly do in the module |
| 07:04.57 | cncfanatics | is change the environment if all the funcs that use UnitHealth |
| 07:05.37 | cncfanatics | so they use mine instead |
| 07:05.37 | cncfanatics | so, just tell me what funcs call UnitHealth :) |
| 07:05.37 | cncfanatics | ckknight: same question, what funcs in PitBull's health module call UnitHealth ? |
| 07:05.37 | haste | oUF.UNIT_HEALTH |
| 07:05.50 | haste | people can have per fame overrieds however |
| 07:06.16 | haste | as the frames just have the oUF table as a metatable index |
| 07:06.18 | cncfanatics | well, what I plan to do is to change its env, call it, and then put it back to normal |
| 07:06.43 | cncfanatics | any better way ? |
| 07:06.59 | haste | that will probably work just fine |
| 07:07.05 | haste | at least with oUF :p |
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| 07:07.37 | cncfanatics | also, hmmm, anyone know by heart what funcs in grid call UNIT_HEALTH ? |
| 07:07.43 | cncfanatics | UnitHealth* |
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| 07:07.52 | nevcairiel | grep the files? |
| 07:07.52 | haste | just grep for it? |
| 07:08.32 | p3lim | anyone know how to change the time in GMail? |
| 07:08.38 | cncfanatics | on a windows box atm :( |
| 07:08.58 | kd3 | whee, ported to fizzcrank, walked outside and crashed |
| 07:09.05 | NightHawkTheSane | cncfanatics: wingrep |
| 07:09.12 | NightHawkTheSane | or, gnu utilities for windows |
| 07:09.22 | cncfanatics | wouldn't the windows thing search in files do ? |
| 07:09.26 | cncfanatics | or is that hopelessly bugged |
| 07:09.40 | nevcairiel | it only works correctly on indexed files |
| 07:09.40 | p3lim | ScytheBlade1: why are you converting wow screenshots? |
| 07:09.42 | NightHawkTheSane | i barely trust windows to not crash. |
| 07:09.47 | p3lim | you can set the default to JPG |
| 07:09.50 | NightHawkTheSane | i wouldn't trust it to do something intelligent like search. |
| 07:09.57 | cncfanatics | no results in grid :D |
| 07:10.01 | cncfanatics | ok, so it sucks |
| 07:10.13 | NightHawkTheSane | http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/ |
| 07:10.33 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.wingrep.com/ |
| 07:10.58 | nevcairiel | I generally just use the version that was installed with cygwin |
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| 07:11.19 | NightHawkTheSane | well, if you dont have cygwin |
| 07:11.41 | cncfanatics | actualy, I do |
| 07:11.44 | cncfanatics | thanks for remember me that |
| 07:12.37 | Thunder_Child | Come on, ride the train, hey, ride it, woo woo |
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| 07:14.19 | laeg | for pvp player frame mid bottom, target right, focus left? |
| 07:15.28 | Arrowmaster | so achievements arent retroactive right? |
| 07:15.41 | Arrowmaster | if so thats retarded |
| 07:15.46 | Arrowmaster | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Wrath/WoWScrnShot_072908_004234.jpg |
| 07:16.03 | Arrowmaster | since they put one in for the booty bay fishing contest |
| 07:16.09 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster: ofc they aren't |
| 07:16.10 | Arrowmaster | which ive won twice |
| 07:16.22 | cncfanatics | figuring all that stuff from logs wld taken silly amounts of time |
| 07:16.27 | cncfanatics | just get them when 3.0 hit |
| 07:16.29 | Arrowmaster | and winning a 3rd time is going to be hard and piss tons of people off |
| 07:16.29 | cncfanatics | hits* |
| 07:16.32 | cncfanatics | before the actual wotlk |
| 07:16.40 | cncfanatics | is fishing contest that hard ? :o |
| 07:16.52 | Arrowmaster | only 1 person can win it a week |
| 07:17.17 | p3lim | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Wrath/WoWScrnShot_072908_010449.jpg |
| 07:17.20 | Arrowmaster | and im on a pvp realm |
| 07:17.21 | p3lim | love those colors of the nature |
| 07:17.41 | Arrowmaster | just having to even enter combat with another player means youll probably lose |
| 07:17.54 | NightHawkTheSane | "Drinking don't fix things... what am I saying? I run a pub! Of course i'll fix things!" |
| 07:17.58 | NightHawkTheSane | it'll* |
| 07:19.01 | Thunder_Child | is teh hotfix going to fix such fubars as http://wowuidev.pastey.net/92667 ? |
| 07:19.34 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if GMs will be able to manually trigger achievements |
| 07:19.36 | p3lim | ScytheBlade1: what were you doing in the sewers? lol |
| 07:19.47 | ScytheBlade1 | jumping out of them |
| 07:19.51 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster: ofc they will |
| 07:19.54 | cncfanatics | but why wld they do that ? :p |
| 07:19.55 | p3lim | why? :p |
| 07:20.00 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm a mage? |
| 07:20.22 | Arrowmaster | because ill be creating a new ticket everytime they close it until i get the fishing contest one if its not retroactive |
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| 07:20.38 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster: if everyone does that they'll be swarmed |
| 07:20.43 | cncfanatics | which means they won't do it :p |
| 07:20.50 | cncfanatics | and bad things cld happen to your account |
| 07:21.16 | Arrowmaster | its only 1 per week per realm, and most of those wont even do it i bet |
| 07:24.17 | Diao | change to lay on hands? |
| 07:24.36 | Diao | i'm confused at that ss p3lim |
| 07:24.45 | zenzio | I haven't been reading anything about achievements, but I would think that *some* of them could be retroactive, like the fishing contest, where all you need to do is check for certain items or similar |
| 07:25.21 | Arrowmaster | yeah some of them should be retroactive |
| 07:25.34 | cncfanatics | might be |
| 07:25.39 | cncfanatics | if the achievment just checks for the item |
| 07:25.40 | cncfanatics | they it will be |
| 07:26.18 | Arrowmaster | well im perty sure they can check other ways if youve done a quest than looking for the item |
| 07:26.27 | Arrowmaster | but its a repeatable quest |
| 07:26.33 | Vangual | yea they changed the fishing one to check for rope and/or trinket recently |
| 07:27.09 | Arrowmaster | so people in beta do have it without winning the contest in beta? |
| 07:27.13 | zenzio | aren't repeatable quests always yellow exclamations the first time around, then blue question mark? |
| 07:27.36 | Arrowmaster | its a quest from before repeatable quests were blue |
| 07:27.38 | cncfanatics | no zenzio |
| 07:27.40 | cncfanatics | only old ones |
| 07:27.45 | zenzio | ah |
| 07:27.53 | cncfanatics | all the sso ones aren't like that for example |
| 07:28.15 | zenzio | pity, then it would have been easy to check |
| 07:28.34 | Thunder_Child | crash :( i blame you kd3 |
| 07:28.52 | Thunder_Child | you and that oversized mount |
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| 07:29.07 | Vangual | so is there a an author guild on the eu beta realm yet? |
| 07:29.48 | zenzio | don't really know; I'd guess they'd go by the name "Neglected" if there is |
| 07:29.57 | cncfanatics | they would ? :o |
| 07:29.59 | Vangual | hehe |
| 07:30.00 | Thunder_Child | ~lart zenzio |
| 07:30.00 | purl | hooks into a hydrant and hoses zenzio down |
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| 07:36.19 | Thunder_Child | wow....because DC'ing in the middle of combat is so kool |
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| 07:44.44 | DARKGuy | It is! |
| 07:44.50 | DARKGuy | It rises the tension |
| 07:44.59 | DARKGuy | So you don't know if you're dead - or alive - when you're back! |
| 07:45.09 | DARKGuy | And you're impatient to know! |
| 07:45.19 | DARKGuy | ... even though 70% of the times you'll be dead :P |
| 07:45.43 | DARKGuy | It's also better if you logout near a mob spawn |
| 07:45.49 | DARKGuy | :) |
| 07:48.16 | Vangual | hrm, all mounts disabled in yesterdays push :/ |
| 07:48.46 | Thunder_Child | no, you need to go buy en |
| 07:48.48 | Thunder_Child | em* |
| 07:48.50 | Thunder_Child | again |
| 07:49.00 | kd3 | mount issues? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8537884122&sid=2000 |
| 07:49.30 | Vangual | thanks |
| 07:49.41 | Vangual | where do i buy amani bears again? ;> |
| 07:49.59 | cncfanatics | from your local raiding guild |
| 07:55.05 | Fisker- | GM's should fix my riding skill |
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| 07:55.11 | Fisker- | so i can look cool |
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| 08:03.12 | ScytheBlade1 | You heard me, AnduinLothar, broken! |
| 08:03.30 | AnduinLothar | you said the magic word and broke the server |
| 08:03.58 | ScytheBlade1 | It's true |
| 08:04.05 | ScytheBlade1 | This is not the first time I've done that either :/ |
| 08:05.07 | AnduinLothar | 32â 1366Ã768 native resolution LCD on woot.com (woot-off) for $460 |
| 08:05.16 | AnduinLothar | i'm tempted |
| 08:05.37 | Thunder_Child | crud, it's a wootoff |
| 08:05.42 | Thunder_Child | no time for sleep |
| 08:09.15 | nevcairiel | thats a low resolution for that big LCD o.O |
| 08:09.32 | AnduinLothar | not a monitor. it's a tv |
| 08:09.45 | nevcairiel | shouldve said that :P |
| 08:09.59 | nevcairiel | its still not Full-HD compat! :) |
| 08:10.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: you broke it this time |
| 08:10.13 | Thunder_Child | ya |
| 08:10.15 | Thunder_Child | my bad |
| 08:10.28 | Thunder_Child | try this as an interesting pvp build http://www.mmo-champion.com/talent/?mage=2304232510020331253122031301000000000000000000000000000023032013010200000000000000000 |
| 08:10.33 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1 ^ |
| 08:10.59 | ScytheBlade1 | seriously |
| 08:11.00 | ScytheBlade1 | like |
| 08:11.07 | ScytheBlade1 | everything and everything mage as it was |
| 08:11.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Is not 100% gone and worthless |
| 08:11.22 | Thunder_Child | s/not/now/ |
| 08:11.36 | ScytheBlade1 | s/not/now/ |
| 08:12.07 | AnduinLothar | wow wtf i missed the lazer mouse for $30 |
| 08:12.14 | AnduinLothar | QQ |
| 08:12.23 | ScytheBlade1 | The great thing is, now I can start reading the EJ mage thread from this page on and now worry :) |
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| 08:13.00 | Thunder_Child | AnduinLothar, it had a 1 1/2 min time frame |
| 08:17.29 | Thunder_Child | ok, thats enough crashing for me tonight |
| 08:17.42 | Thunder_Child | AnduinLothar, http://woot.kishk.org:8080/ |
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| 08:19.51 | AnduinLothar | thx |
| 08:24.05 | AnduinLothar | the lvl 75 greens are starting to shape up |
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| 08:29.46 | Keias | ScytheBlade1, what spec is your mage currently in the beta? |
| 08:32.44 | Thunder_Child | fail spec Keias |
| 08:33.02 | Keias | lol |
| 08:33.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Keias: full fure... I'm not sure |
| 08:33.30 | ScytheBlade1 | The other trees are looking awfully pretty now though, I'm really not sure if that'll last |
| 08:33.38 | ScytheBlade1 | *fire |
| 08:33.46 | Keias | Has Living Bomb been really as bad as people keep saying? |
| 08:34.03 | ScytheBlade1 | The thing that people ignore is that (1) it isn't channeled and (2) it doesn't invoke the GCD |
| 08:34.11 | ScytheBlade1 | You can activate it and reactive it while spamming AE |
| 08:34.19 | ScytheBlade1 | And now it burns mana too |
| 08:34.23 | Thunder_Child | ya, i have it |
| 08:34.38 | Thunder_Child | i took down 2 69's @ 70 with an aoe pvp spec |
| 08:35.14 | ScytheBlade1 | It still needs work, though, I'm... I need a moment when I'm awake to look over all the talents |
| 08:35.20 | ScytheBlade1 | I mean the EJ people are still in disarray, haha |
| 08:35.52 | Thunder_Child | EJ? |
| 08:35.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Elitist Jerks |
| 08:38.17 | ScytheBlade1 | sleep! |
| 08:40.06 | Thunder_Child | nooooooooooooooooooooo ScytheBlade1! |
| 08:43.34 | Cairenn | sleep? what is this word you speak? |
| 08:43.57 | starlon | ScytheBlade1: Why disarray? |
| 08:46.12 | |Jelly| | Cairenn: WTB Beta key. I know you're holding out. :P |
| 08:46.21 | Cairenn | names went in today |
| 08:46.27 | Cairenn | hopefully you'll get them within the week |
| 08:49.09 | Kirkburn|afk | The current beta build is somewhat messed up anyway :P |
| 08:50.01 | Thunder_Child | this is way disgusting http://www.bloggerheads.com/images/alienkitten.jpg |
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| 09:02.09 | Kirkburn|afk | Thunder_Child, why'd you bloody link it then! gah >_< |
| 09:05.36 | cladhaire | PatchDiff from last beta build to the current one: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/ref/patchdiff/8634/8681 |
| 09:05.48 | cladhaire | PatchDiff from 2.4.3 to current beta build: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/ref/patchdiff/8606/8681 |
| 09:06.02 | nevcairiel | you're late |
| 09:06.07 | nevcairiel | was in my inbox when i woke up! |
| 09:06.07 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 09:06.11 | cladhaire | how is that? |
| 09:06.16 | cladhaire | this isn't a framexml compare |
| 09:07.01 | nevcairiel | ah a strings compare, but nothing interesting in, imho |
| 09:07.05 | cladhaire | ... |
| 09:07.07 | cladhaire | its not a strings compare |
| 09:07.08 | cladhaire | wtf. |
| 09:07.14 | Kirkburn|afk | My string is longer than your string |
| 09:07.29 | cncfanatics | thats a function compare isn't it ? :p |
| 09:07.32 | cladhaire | yes |
| 09:07.47 | cladhaire | it shows any differences in events, widgets, functions and cvars |
| 09:07.48 | nevcairiel | functions and cvars probably stripped with strings |
| 09:07.49 | nevcairiel | =P |
| 09:07.55 | cladhaire | wow, you're a twat |
| 09:08.59 | Kirkburn|afk | I see you're adjusting well to the UK language :) |
| 09:09.10 | cladhaire | heh |
| 09:09.13 | Cairenn | lol, twat isn't UK exclusive :p |
| 09:09.37 | Kirkburn|afk | Can I at least lay claims to bollocks? (Metaphorically) |
| 09:09.42 | Cairenn | nope |
| 09:09.48 | Kirkburn|afk | *cry* |
| 09:09.57 | Cairenn | although I will give you "Hairy Coo" |
| 09:10.05 | Kirkburn|afk | I, er ... what? |
| 09:10.11 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 09:10.17 | amro | that's neat cladhaire, thanks |
| 09:10.26 | Cairenn | Scottish Highlands Cow |
| 09:10.33 | cladhaire | I post em every patch, thats why I was confused why nevcairiel was twatting |
| 09:10.37 | Cairenn | "hairy coos" |
| 09:11.09 | Kirkburn|afk | Ooh, I know! "Bobby dazzler" |
| 09:11.22 | Cairenn | okay, that one I don't recognize off the top of my head |
| 09:11.34 | Cairenn | bobby grips, though, I know |
| 09:12.06 | Kirkburn|afk | Apparently Bobby Dazzler was an Aussie sitcom, but we stole the name for an expression |
| 09:12.19 | Cairenn | ah - and what does the expression mean? |
| 09:12.41 | Kirkburn|afk | You would describe a girl all dressed up for going out as looking like a bobby dazzler |
| 09:12.46 | Cairenn | ah |
| 09:12.51 | Kirkburn|afk | Generally northern England |
| 09:12.59 | Kirkburn|afk | The more you know... :) |
| 09:13.12 | Cairenn | errr, "kirby grips", you confuzzled me |
| 09:14.11 | Kirkburn|afk | Hah, that reminds me - I was editing the kirby wiki a few days back, I could not stop typing "kirkby", to the point that I actually typed it as the site name on the main page. :P |
| 09:14.21 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 09:14.51 | Thunder_Child | "Kirkburn|afk: Thunder_Child, why'd you bloody link it then! gah >_<" because i could |
| 09:14.56 | Kirkburn|afk | Srsly, see http://kirby.wikia.com/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=9595 |
| 09:15.40 | Cairenn | ummm ... rofl @ typo in name :p |
| 09:15.45 | Kirkburn|afk | Bet it looked good, me running in and trying to name the site after myself :P |
| 09:15.58 | Cairenn | no "trying" to ... you did |
| 09:16.02 | Kirkburn|afk | Thunder_Child, bah. Still want kitteh though. Not that one, obviously. |
| 09:16.10 | Kirkburn|afk | Uh ... yeah. :P |
| 09:16.22 | Thunder_Child | Kirkburn|afk, http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj40/peppersagooddog/funny-pictures-cat-scared-sink-wate.jpg |
| 09:16.31 | cncfanatics | rofl Kirkburn|afk |
| 09:16.36 | Kirkburn|afk | hehe |
| 09:17.15 | Kirkburn|afk | Three days that typo was there :( |
| 09:17.32 | Cairenn | lol |
| 09:17.35 | cncfanatics | ~epic fail Kirkburn |
| 09:17.37 | purl | Kirkburn, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you Kirkburn, you are that epic failure. |
| 09:17.51 | Kirkburn|afk | yay! |
| 09:17.53 | cncfanatics | ;:p |
| 09:19.09 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm all giggled out now - time for a film |
| 09:19.56 | Cairenn | Kirkburn|afk: if you want to giggle, ask the USA-ians what a chesterfield is :p |
| 09:20.27 | Thunder_Child | are we supposed to know? |
| 09:20.52 | Cairenn | thank you for proving my point |
| 09:21.10 | Thunder_Child | ~dict chesterfield |
| 09:21.32 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:21.35 | Cairenn | it's a couch |
| 09:21.54 | Kirkburn|afk | Yeah, i was gonna say the next question would have been "what's a davenport" :P |
| 09:21.54 | Thunder_Child | seems it's more than a couch |
| 09:22.04 | Tekkub | naming couches is stupid |
| 09:22.14 | Kirkburn|afk | you're stupid |
| 09:22.20 | Thunder_Child | Tekkub, but my couch is called jane..... |
| 09:22.31 | Tekkub | I just call em cloth, fake swede, swede, leatheradherestomysweatyass |
| 09:22.56 | Kirkburn|afk | Do the swedes complain? |
| 09:23.00 | Tekkub | but then, I prefer poofy chairs |
| 09:23.02 | Tekkub | :) |
| 09:23.03 | Thunder_Child | at least it's not plastic wrapped |
| 09:23.07 | Kirkburn|afk | Tekkub, oh you |
| 09:23.25 | Tekkub | right I think I have to go to bed now, screw you all |
| 09:23.30 | Kirkburn|afk | This is in the "real" Chesterfield: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Crooked_Spire.jpg |
| 09:23.36 | Kirkburn|afk | Tekkub, screw you too |
| 09:23.39 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Tekkub |
| 09:23.40 | purl | Tekkub, you Fail! |
| 09:23.51 | Thunder_Child | careful Kirkburn|afk, he might take you up on that offer |
| 09:24.06 | Kirkburn|afk | :) |
| 09:24.30 | Kirkburn|afk | Only if I can use the swede, and maybe the fake swede. |
| 09:26.28 | Thunder_Child | heh "Conjures 8 strudels, providing the mage and his or her allies with something to eat." strudels |
| 09:27.05 | Kirkburn|afk | No specific flavour? |
| 09:27.27 | Thunder_Child | yes, whatever you want, they are magic strudels ofc |
| 09:27.32 | Kirkburn|afk | You should be able to choose apfelstrudel imo :( |
| 09:28.15 | Thunder_Child | huh...you cant get to dalaran till you're 74, however the dalaran teleport spell is lvl 71....go figure |
| 09:28.25 | Kirkburn|afk | If an apfelstrudle tastes of ... apfels, does a magic strudel taste of magic? |
| 09:28.28 | cncfanatics | do you need 74 to enter dala ? :( |
| 09:28.31 | cncfanatics | I wanted to go there at 70 |
| 09:28.35 | Kirkburn|afk | cncfanatics, apparently now |
| 09:28.40 | cncfanatics | that sucks |
| 09:28.44 | Thunder_Child | ya, so sayith kd3 |
| 09:28.46 | Kirkburn|afk | There's an "attunement" style quest at 74 |
| 09:28.47 | cncfanatics | hard level resctriction on zoning or a quest ? |
| 09:28.59 | Kirkburn|afk | Which allows you to use the teleport |
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| 09:29.18 | Thunder_Child | so then why is the mage spell 71!?!?!?!? |
| 09:29.25 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* you win again blizz |
| 09:29.26 | Kirkburn|afk | Don't ask me!?!?! |
| 09:29.38 | cncfanatics | who cares the mage spell is 71 ? |
| 09:29.42 | cncfanatics | they have to learn it INSIDE dalaran |
| 09:29.47 | Thunder_Child | it wasnt you in specific....just the general channel |
| 09:29.52 | cncfanatics | hint * level 74 entrance only* |
| 09:29.53 | Thunder_Child | i know cncfanatics, thats my point |
| 09:29.59 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm just glad I ran to Dalaran yesterday :P |
| 09:29.59 | cncfanatics | it doesn't matter |
| 09:30.02 | Thunder_Child | why not make it a lvl 74 spell? |
| 09:30.02 | cncfanatics | it could have been level 1 really |
| 09:30.10 | cncfanatics | it doesn't matter anyway |
| 09:30.29 | cncfanatics | can u get summoned in dalaran btw ? even if ur not attuned ? |
| 09:30.35 | Thunder_Child | does to, if dalaran is anything like shat where you can be TP'd in |
| 09:30.42 | Thunder_Child | dunno |
| 09:30.49 | Thunder_Child | kd3, any ideas? |
| 09:30.56 | Cairenn | holy mother of god, did *that* commercial ever make me feel old - a special on Madonna (the music "artist", not the mother of the Christian god) to celebrate her 50th birthday |
| 09:31.16 | Kirkburn|afk | What I found really odd was arriving in Dalaran and having a quest to port down, and then back. I thought it was kind of obvious that I understood the concept, since I just used the port. |
| 09:31.18 | Thunder_Child | are you 50 Cairenn? |
| 09:31.21 | Cairenn | no |
| 09:31.26 | Thunder_Child | then..... |
| 09:31.39 | Cairenn | the fact I listened to her as a teen |
| 09:31.48 | Kirkburn|afk | I don't think Madonna made singles when she was 2 years old, Thunder_Child |
| 09:32.02 | Thunder_Child | Kirkburn|afk, LIES! |
| 09:32.06 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, so did i |
| 09:32.47 | zenzio | unless you mean you listened to her when she was a teen then you don't need to worry |
| 09:33.01 | Cairenn | heh |
| 09:35.27 | Kirkburn|afk | mmm, 8000g for a Signet of the Kirin Tor |
| 09:35.51 | Thunder_Child | i thought it was 7599g |
| 09:35.54 | Codayus | And cheap at a hundredth the price... |
| 09:36.06 | Kirkburn|afk | Thunder_Child, shaddup, don't question my reading abilities |
| 09:36.25 | Thunder_Child | Kirkburn|afk, i didnt question it, i flat out told you you were wrong |
| 09:36.28 | zenzio | he wasn't questioning, he was mocking |
| 09:37.03 | Kirkburn|afk | Both of you missed the hidden "and add 400g for those who know", sheesh |
| 09:37.44 | Kirkburn|afk | I'd tell you where to look, but then I'd have to kill you |
| 09:37.54 | zenzio | this is beta talk, I'm intentionally ignorant about most of what goes on there |
| 09:38.25 | Kirkburn|afk | Mostly hot babes, hot tubs and beer |
| 09:39.02 | zenzio | see, nothing I'd care about then. I prefer beautiful women and Cola |
| 09:39.10 | Kirkburn|afk | hot cola? |
| 09:39.27 | zenzio | depends on the alternatives |
| 09:39.48 | Kirkburn|afk | Well, it's probably better than hot beer |
| 09:40.02 | Kirkburn|afk | But we also have hot monopoly |
| 09:43.40 | Kirkburn|afk | Yeeah, so I'm going back to my film now... |
| 09:43.59 | Thunder_Child | and i'm going back to my bed, night all |
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| 10:57.57 | batrick|1mo | how the hell is Troodi not an MVP yet lol |
| 11:00.06 | Fisker- | btw |
| 11:00.08 | Fisker- | is it me |
| 11:00.15 | Fisker- | or did they add another button to the minimenu_ |
| 11:00.15 | zenzio | yes |
| 11:00.22 | Fisker- | bag slots seem to be smaller now |
| 11:01.42 | batrick | is the backpack > 20 slots at 80? |
| 11:01.49 | cladhaire | they added Achievements and Pvp info |
| 11:02.01 | cladhaire | batrick: backpack never changes |
| 11:02.13 | batrick | i thought they said somewhere they were going to make it upgrade by level |
| 11:02.22 | Fisker- | beep beep i'm a jeep |
| 11:02.37 | Fisker- | haven't seen any upgrade to my backpack atleast |
| 11:02.43 | batrick | I'm exciting to try out the mage changes in beta |
| 11:02.48 | batrick | whenever I get my key |
| 11:03.04 | cladhaire | wow |
| 11:03.05 | cladhaire | this is effed. |
| 11:03.58 | cladhaire | so |
| 11:04.05 | cladhaire | batrick: I can string.dump AbandonQuest now |
| 11:04.08 | cladhaire | that means its a lua function? |
| 11:04.43 | batrick | yes |
| 11:04.59 | cladhaire | wow thats fucked. |
| 11:05.06 | batrick | assuming they didn't change string.dump lol |
| 11:05.49 | batrick | why is that fucked? |
| 11:05.49 | cladhaire | because i don't see an implementation of it anywhere. |
| 11:06.06 | batrick | too bad the unpack bug is gone |
| 11:06.09 | cladhaire | heh |
| 11:06.11 | batrick | all sorts of fun things you could find out |
| 11:06.12 | cladhaire | it is? |
| 11:06.13 | Fisker- | i r lvl 75 |
| 11:06.19 | cladhaire | they patched it out in wow? |
| 11:06.20 | batrick | when I finally started playing wow again they had it fixed |
| 11:06.26 | batrick | they made some hackish patch |
| 11:06.43 | batrick | it's not a correct fix but it prevents you from accessing stack values below the current function |
| 11:07.00 | batrick | doing unpack({}, 2^31-1, 2^31-1) still crashes wow |
| 11:07.07 | batrick | at least last time i tried a week or so ago |
| 11:10.54 | batrick | I wonder if living bomb means all casters r screwed against fire mages |
| 11:11.11 | cladhaire | yeah something has definitely changed |
| 11:11.16 | cladhaire | this isn't normal |
| 11:11.19 | batrick | despite the bitching, the mana burn may be good |
| 11:12.30 | batrick | Perhaps they implemented it in Lua but have the code in WoW's executable? |
| 11:12.42 | batrick | doesn't make much sense why they would do that though |
| 11:13.23 | cladhaire | nope |
| 11:13.28 | cladhaire | yeah tahts all i could come up with |
| 11:14.01 | batrick | does AbandonQuest take any args? |
| 11:14.14 | batrick | if you can get it to error in a coroutine you may be able to find out somthing interesting from a traceback |
| 11:14.24 | batrick | well, dont need a coroutine, just traceback |
| 11:14.29 | batrick | and xpcall |
| 11:14.42 | cladhaire | it doesn't take any args |
| 11:14.46 | cladhaire | but might die if it gets one |
| 11:14.51 | cladhaire | i have to find what other funcs this happened to |
| 11:14.59 | zenzio | xpcall is so out, use vistacall |
| 11:15.11 | cncfanatics | what did they do to AbandonQuest ? :o |
| 11:15.21 | foxlit | hey |
| 11:15.32 | cncfanatics | ~lart zenz |
| 11:15.32 | purl | teaches zenz the basics, including how to RTM |
| 11:15.34 | foxlit | UnitHealth("target") returns actual values for NPCs in the latest 3.0 build |
| 11:15.43 | krka | cladhaire: can you get the opcodes for AbandonQuest then? |
| 11:15.52 | batrick | cladhaire: for k,v in pairs(_G) if type(v) == "function" then if pcall(string.dump, v) then print(k) end end end |
| 11:16.00 | batrick | of course... that'll be a bit messy lol |
| 11:16.02 | cladhaire | ... |
| 11:16.14 | cladhaire | i know fully well how to test if a function is in C |
| 11:16.14 | batrick | I forgot how many Lua functions there were :) |
| 11:16.17 | cladhaire | that's how I found this out. |
| 11:16.32 | batrick | ya I know, I'm just being stupid |
| 11:16.58 | cncfanatics | little question, why does it matter if a func was implemented in C or in lua ? |
| 11:17.05 | batrick | I'd make a SV table in reg WoW then compare it to a table made in beta |
| 11:17.11 | cladhaire | ... |
| 11:17.12 | cladhaire | i already ahve |
| 11:17.16 | batrick | ok fine! |
| 11:17.18 | cladhaire | lol |
| 11:17.21 | batrick | just trying to be helpful! |
| 11:17.26 | wereHamster | foxlit: is that intended or a 'bug' that will be fixed? |
| 11:17.28 | cladhaire | well you're telling me things I've already done |
| 11:17.35 | cladhaire | I'm trying to figure out how it was changed, and what is different |
| 11:17.40 | cladhaire | with that function |
| 11:17.44 | foxlit | wereHamster: I'm not an oracle |
| 11:17.46 | cladhaire | and looking for the others that may have the same "problem" |
| 11:17.46 | krka | cladhaire: is the output from string.dump gibberish or actual lua opcodes? |
| 11:17.55 | wereHamster | also, does it return the actual values for hostile players? |
| 11:17.55 | foxlit | It even works for hostiles |
| 11:18.00 | wereHamster | neat |
| 11:18.05 | foxlit | well, hostile NPCs. |
| 11:18.09 | foxlit | I've yet to see a hostile player |
| 11:18.13 | cncfanatics | foxlit: /love |
| 11:18.19 | cncfanatics | thats gonna give quickhealth a boost ^^ |
| 11:18.22 | batrick | cladhaire: if it was implemented in C and luaL_loadstring was used, you may be able to look at hte source code by changing the code returned by string.dump to lose all its control chars |
| 11:18.32 | wereHamster | foxlit: why are you not an oracle?? You disappoint me |
| 11:18.36 | batrick | code compiled with *loadstring keeps its source |
| 11:18.48 | cladhaire | krka: all I get in my chatframe addmessage is LuaQ: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/47e7c9da3ea740c1f461b18c07f2208f.png |
| 11:18.51 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 11:18.54 | cladhaire | that's what 8i'm trying to figure out. |
| 11:19.01 | krka | cladhaire: dump the hex values instead |
| 11:19.02 | foxlit | That just threw out the code I wrote yesterday :P |
| 11:19.47 | foxlit | ("%q"):format(...) |
| 11:20.03 | batrick | what I usually use is string.gsub(str, "%c", function(a) return "\\"..string.byte(a) end) |
| 11:20.54 | cladhaire | ah ha! |
| 11:20.56 | cladhaire | i figured it out |
| 11:20.59 | cladhaire | thank god, that's much better |
| 11:21.18 | cladhaire | it was the fargging feedbackUI again |
| 11:21.31 | cladhaire | i forgot i can't disable that on beta, so my scans will be off until its gone |
| 11:21.46 | batrick | feedbackUI changed abandonQuest? |
| 11:21.48 | cladhaire | okay, I feel much better now |
| 11:21.52 | cladhaire | feedbackUI changes everything |
| 11:24.27 | cladhaire | it just blew my mind cause it was secure, yet implemented in Lua... but I couldn't find it anywhere :P |
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| 11:25.50 | batrick | night |
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| 11:28.35 | Gnarfoz | <@cladhaire> i forgot i can't disable that on beta, so my scans will be off until its gone <-- does that mean: feedbackUI was optional on alpha, or there's a way to get it on live? |
| 11:30.32 | cladhaire | well feedback UI isn't on live |
| 11:30.36 | cladhaire | you could unpack it |
| 11:30.37 | cladhaire | and run it |
| 11:30.42 | cladhaire | but it would taint your UI to holy hell |
| 11:31.02 | foxlit | hey, calendars. |
| 11:31.09 | cladhaire | in some builds of PTR in particular you can disable it |
| 11:31.13 | cladhaire | foxlit: indeed :P |
| 11:31.20 | foxlit | server side arbitrary data storage for the masses, really |
| 11:32.16 | cladhaire | well, its better than the N to N communication some addons have now :P |
| 11:32.21 | cladhaire | its done REALLY well |
| 11:32.22 | cladhaire | in my opinion |
| 11:33.22 | foxlit | I haven't looked at how it works |
| 11:33.26 | foxlit | The UI is massive, however |
| 11:33.52 | cncfanatics | foxlit: it looks cool |
| 11:33.59 | cladhaire | well you can create events, people can join, you can mass invite, etc. |
| 11:34.12 | cncfanatics | yea, and its all stored serverside |
| 11:34.14 | cncfanatics | which is win |
| 11:37.18 | cladhaire | WooHoo.. CalDAV for Google Calendars |
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| 11:44.22 | Cairenn | have I mentioned lately that I hate people some days? :p |
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| 11:45.45 | zenzio | only some days? |
| 11:45.49 | Cairenn | (2008-07-29 07:39:04) Cairenn: oh for the love of .... how the fuck am I supposed to sort this one out? "Mangler" - uploaded on WoWI by verotat - uploaded on Curse by ammoch - uploaded on Ace by Charon - .toc says (c) Thomas Rast - says it's distributed under GNU so redistribution is fine ... |
| 11:45.49 | Cairenn | (2008-07-29 07:39:23) ***Cairenn sobs |
| 11:46.12 | haste | lol |
| 11:46.54 | Cairenn | honest to pete, it's a bloody wonder I'm not bald yet from tearing my hair out some days |
| 11:48.51 | foxlit | So, who has figured out how many shamans you need in a raid to have perpetual heroism? |
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| 11:52.39 | Gnarfoz | Cairenn: /whois charon (he is == Thomas Rast) |
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| 11:53.06 | Cairenn | Gnarfoz: yeah, I rather had that one figured out |
| 11:53.15 | Cairenn | but my point still remains |
| 11:53.22 | Cairenn | people make me insane! |
| 11:53.36 | Cairenn | oh, hey, look, that rhymed! |
| 11:54.05 | cncfanatics | Cairenn is going insane ! |
| 11:54.19 | foxlit | she certainly is; that didn't rhyme :) |
| 11:54.35 | Cairenn | remain, insane? yes it does! |
| 11:54.36 | Rabbitbunny | Can I make my addon do things when you change maps? |
| 11:54.48 | zenzio | remainS, not remain |
| 11:54.54 | zenzio | so no, it didn't quite rhyme |
| 11:54.58 | Cairenn | details details :p |
| 11:55.45 | foxlit | Not like ain and ane are perfect matches, either |
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| 11:56.33 | ShamHealz | Hey every1 |
| 11:56.52 | Cairenn | hi |
| 11:57.22 | ShamHealz | Wats every1 up 2 |
| 11:58.00 | zenzio | Cairenn: wut? u no liek? |
| 11:58.03 | foxlit | stealing number keys off keyboards. |
| 11:59.21 | ShamHealz | haha |
| 11:59.45 | ShamHealz | Ya wish stupid maintaince wasnt today |
| 12:00.00 | ShamHealz | But im trying to find me a new good Shaman UI |
| 12:00.13 | foxlit | Cairenn: got any spare punctuation marks? |
| 12:00.35 | Cairenn | foxlit: I was about to hand over some of those as well, but my computer froze up for a sec |
| 12:00.57 | |pez| | Maybe I should get WoW installed on this thing and play some, and decide what to do with my guildthing and money that's been in the guild vault forever. |
| 12:01.21 | Cairenn | |pez|: ! |
| 12:01.34 | Cairenn | foreign concepts! |
| 12:01.37 | ShamHealz | Pez: which server you on |
| 12:01.39 | |pez| | You think newbies would appreciate a guild, with a two tabbed guild vault? :P |
| 12:01.55 | ShamHealz | They prob wouldnt know wat to do with it |
| 12:02.05 | |pez| | ShamHealz: Sporeggar EU |
| 12:02.13 | ShamHealz | Ohh |
| 12:02.26 | |pez| | not played since february or so though. |
| 12:02.30 | ShamHealz | Did you quit wow? |
| 12:02.46 | |pez| | My computer didn't like me playing WoW, and regurarly tried to burn my hands. :P |
| 12:02.53 | ShamHealz | Haha |
| 12:02.54 | |pez| | (my laptop overheated) |
| 12:03.03 | ShamHealz | Well if I was a EU id take it =P |
| 12:03.31 | |pez| | I was thinking of doing some AH whoring, and make it a full tabbed Guild Vault... and THEN give it away. |
| 12:04.10 | ShamHealz | Yay i think they will like that |
| 12:04.51 | |pez| | Maybe fill it up with some materials for crafters. Some nice gear for lower levels... |
| 12:05.16 | ShamHealz | Yep yep, how much gold is already in Vault |
| 12:05.21 | |pez| | Not much :D |
| 12:05.22 | |pez| | 200g |
| 12:05.26 | |pez| | ish |
| 12:05.29 | |pez| | last time I checked. |
| 12:05.29 | ShamHealz | Ohh |
| 12:05.55 | |pez| | But it's possibly a good starting point if I'm going to make the money grow. :P |
| 12:06.13 | ShamHealz | Ya, what did you play when you did play WoW? |
| 12:06.32 | |pez| | I played a BE Hunter this last time. |
| 12:06.38 | |pez| | Started on that around summer 07 |
| 12:07.03 | ShamHealz | Oh nice, are you one of those godly EUs that break records =P us US to break no records |
| 12:07.25 | |pez| | I can't say I've broken any records... |
| 12:07.31 | ShamHealz | We break the records of the longest 1-70 you guys break em 1-70 in like 2 days.. |
| 12:08.00 | |pez| | I played for a long time, and my BE Hunter is 61. :P |
| 12:08.11 | ShamHealz | =P |
| 12:08.35 | ShamHealz | If you dont play no-more why not just give ur Hunter away? Or you gonna keep just in case you play again |
| 12:08.37 | |pez| | my computer starting acting stupid around... lv 40ish |
| 12:08.47 | |pez| | I wanna keep it incase I start again. |
| 12:09.00 | |pez| | Which is something I occasionally do. |
| 12:09.14 | Pneumatus | the new turkey killing achievement is funny :> |
| 12:09.15 | ShamHealz | Ya laptops arnt very good gaming comps, inless u have like a 4k laptop |
| 12:09.32 | |pez| | my laptop runs WoW great. |
| 12:09.40 | |pez| | and my new laptop should do an even better job. :P |
| 12:09.58 | |pez| | it cost me like... 1k USD |
| 12:10.02 | ShamHealz | my friends laptop keeps over heating on him, so he is buying a alienware desktop now =P |
| 12:10.32 | |pez| | I don't want any desktop computer. |
| 12:10.46 | ShamHealz | Ya i wanna buy a laptop, i hate desktop |
| 12:10.58 | ShamHealz | That way I could bring my laptop anywhere n play wow |
| 12:11.00 | ShamHealz | =P\ |
| 12:11.23 | |pez| | I'm more concerned with my work. |
| 12:11.29 | cladhaire | ZOMG |
| 12:11.32 | cladhaire | Polar Bear form |
| 12:11.35 | cladhaire | such win! |
| 12:11.50 | ShamHealz | lawlz r u serious |
| 12:11.55 | cladhaire | yes, its a glyph |
| 12:11.55 | |pez| | I'm starting up a webdevelopment business, and it's good to be able to be mobile. :P |
| 12:12.10 | ShamHealz | ya deff |
| 12:12.13 | cladhaire | Glyph of the White Bear - Changes the appearance of your bear and dire bear forms to that of a polar bear. |
| 12:12.26 | |pez| | ... neat? :P |
| 12:12.30 | ShamHealz | omg that is beast |
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| 12:12.46 | |pez| | Any new cool hunter stuff in WotLK, anyone know? |
| 12:12.55 | ShamHealz | So does any1 have a good UI Setup? |
| 12:13.07 | ShamHealz | u can tame exotic pets |
| 12:13.18 | |pez| | also, Cairenn! what'd you |pez|! me for? :P |
| 12:13.20 | Pneumatus | ShamHealz, a load of addons have stopped working in the latest build, so unlikely |
| 12:13.29 | |pez| | exotic pets? :o |
| 12:13.40 | ShamHealz | ya like kodos |
| 12:13.46 | ShamHealz | zebra |
| 12:13.47 | Cairenn | just being silly, teasing you about actually doing something as radical as logging in |
| 12:13.58 | |pez| | Cairenn: Aha! |
| 12:14.13 | |pez| | ShamHealz: seriously? Always wanted a zebra... |
| 12:14.23 | ShamHealz | Ya Pneumatus i figure so, i need to get a new one mine is so crowed |
| 12:14.40 | ShamHealz | ya |
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| 12:28.34 | Nom- | hunters are getting uber overhaul |
| 12:28.48 | Nom- | pets now now all trainable spells and they auto rank up |
| 12:29.01 | Nom- | and the whole training points has been replaced with talent trees |
| 12:29.05 | alestane | Anyone know which .MPQ is going to have the current interface files in it? |
| 12:29.30 | |pez| | Sounds like it's worth giving WotLK a shot when it's released. |
| 12:29.36 | Nom- | Absolutely |
| 12:29.49 | cncfanatics | well, I was first considering going WAR |
| 12:29.59 | cncfanatics | but with what i heard about WAR & wotlk i'll stick to wotlk after all :p |
| 12:30.00 | Nom- | I hope to get into the beta sometime in the next month... doesn't seem likely to me tho :P |
| 12:30.17 | zenzio | I hate reading patch notes. Druids, Hunters, Mages, xxx have like 10+ changes in every patch, and warriors maybe get one or two changes every second one |
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| 12:30.48 | Nom- | Warriors are getting uber buffed |
| 12:30.53 | Nom- | dual wield 2-handers |
| 12:30.56 | Nom- | *drool* |
| 12:31.15 | zenzio | I only care about tanking changes |
| 12:31.26 | zenzio | but it does sound pwn |
| 12:31.32 | Nom- | Well there's not really much to change for tanking |
| 12:31.50 | zenzio | that's what I'm saying ;) Warriors feel too balanced |
| 12:31.59 | Nom- | apart from fixing the tree a bit... prot is a bit over the place |
| 12:33.09 | Nom- | altho interestingly shield slam has been dropped in favor of a new skill |
| 12:33.28 | zenzio | yeah, I'm not sure what to think of that yet |
| 12:33.39 | alestane | Why do no charges remain in my mount? |
| 12:33.49 | Cairenn | alestane: on Beta? |
| 12:33.53 | Nom- | well it's fine as long as there aren't too many taunt immune mobs |
| 12:33.54 | alestane | Yah. |
| 12:33.55 | Cairenn | bug in the patch |
| 12:34.07 | Nom- | heh can't use mounts in current build ? |
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| 12:34.13 | Cairenn | affects non-com pets too |
| 12:34.24 | Nom- | lol i'm surprised that got past QA |
| 12:34.42 | Cairenn | Nom-: if you can't summon (ala Pally, Necro), then yeah, no mounts atm |
| 12:34.57 | Nom- | ouchies |
| 12:35.03 | Cairenn | heh, yeah |
| 12:35.13 | alestane | Well, I try to use my mount, in order to teach me how to summon it, and there are no charges left. |
| 12:35.33 | Cairenn | alestane: ^^ :p |
| 12:35.39 | Nom- | yeah, so they obviously have to add charges to all existing mounts |
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| 12:35.47 | alestane | As in, read where people said they think it's a bug. |
| 12:35.47 | Nom- | sounds like not so much of a code problem as a data problem |
| 12:36.00 | Cairenn | Nom-: not as bad as one of the patches during F&FA - female characters couldn't walk up stairs :p |
| 12:36.08 | Vangual | yea it's a problem with their sql queries they used to switch the items to itemlearners |
| 12:36.11 | Nom- | haha |
| 12:36.44 | Nom- | out of interest, did the beta keys thing all go smoothly ? |
| 12:36.56 | Cairenn | we'll see, won't we :) |
| 12:37.04 | Nom- | ah so no reply yet? |
| 12:37.22 | Cairenn | I got a "yes, we got your lists" response |
| 12:37.24 | Cairenn | nothing more |
| 12:37.40 | Nom- | fair enough... hopefully all goes smoothly... it's nice to have addons when a new patch comes out :D |
| 12:38.34 | zenzio | so for someone who hasn't been paying attention, are they doing like with 2.0, releasing 3.0 before the expansion? |
| 12:38.48 | Nom- | I'd bet money on it |
| 12:38.50 | Cairenn | they haven't said yet |
| 12:39.05 | Cairenn | it wouldn't surprise me though, but I don't know for sure either way |
| 12:39.05 | alestane | Probably...get the kinks out on live before everyone's logging in with their shiny new toy. |
| 12:39.08 | Nom- | Gives them a chance to roll out 3.0 and make sure it's stable before patch |
| 12:39.14 | Nom- | before release i mean |
| 12:40.01 | Nom- | I'll gladly put my name down as addon tester btw, if there's slots ^_^ |
| 12:40.53 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/cat110.html to find them, http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=82 to report on them |
| 12:40.59 | Cairenn | :) |
| 12:41.01 | Vangual | i'm surprised at how many addons work without changes |
| 12:41.11 | Fisker- | inbuilt mobhealth = win |
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| 12:43.27 | Vangual | and the questguys outdid themselves |
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| 12:44.47 | Nom- | Cairenn: smart*** :D |
| 12:45.05 | Cairenn | whaa? |
| 12:45.22 | Cairenn | Ize jest orga - organ - sorted out! |
| 12:45.33 | Nom- | no login yet ^_^ |
| 12:46.25 | Nom- | oh bugger |
| 12:46.29 | Nom- | all live realms are offline |
| 12:46.30 | Nom- | *sigh* |
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| 12:46.51 | Nom- | whatever will i do with myself |
| 12:47.42 | zenzio | "Stun your lady into submission"... spam mail have all the interesting subjects |
| 12:47.56 | Cairenn | yeah .... |
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| 12:48.53 | Cairenn | I love how they keep trying to "improve your manlihood!" |
| 12:49.09 | |pez| | I love it when I get penisenlargement ads. |
| 12:49.14 | Cairenn | ummm, hi, I'd really rather you didn't thanks, I actually rather like being female |
| 12:49.21 | Cairenn | |pez|: yeah, exactly |
| 12:49.22 | Nom- | I can do that. It's called a 6-pack of stubbies |
| 12:49.34 | alestane | Calendar's implemented. |
| 12:49.37 | |pez| | I get weirded out though, when the occasional boobenlargement mail pops in. |
| 12:49.44 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 12:49.53 | Nom- | I saw that in the patch notes, alestane ... looks pretty damn nice |
| 12:49.59 | alestane | It has "Create announcement" and "Create Guild Event" buttons. |
| 12:50.10 | Nom- | Goodbye GroupCalendar |
| 12:50.25 | alestane | Pretty much. |
| 12:51.30 | |pez| | I had ideas for a awesome guild addon once. |
| 12:51.42 | bleeter | no offence to the guy who wrote GC, but... yerk, must've been sucking way too much time for him. i applaud blizz for putting it in by deafault, let ol' thingamie get back to doing stuff he wants :) |
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| 12:52.04 | bleeter | also, prolly one of the hardest things to write for WoW, without any server side storage... yerk |
| 12:52.07 | Nom- | GroupCalendar was a nice idea... great addon too, IF you can get everyone to use it |
| 12:52.13 | Nom- | Now that it's stock standard... MUCH better |
| 12:52.22 | bleeter | distributed client side only DB... ugh |
| 12:52.26 | bleeter | Nom-: so totally true |
| 12:52.39 | bleeter | hell, I might relog on my 'main' realm and thank the guy for all his past work =)) |
| 12:52.51 | bleeter | same guy does outfitter, iirc |
| 12:53.03 | Nom- | so the only thing missing now is ItemRack type setup |
| 12:53.08 | Nom- | from what I can think of |
| 12:53.19 | |pez| | wait, we're storing things server side? |
| 12:53.24 | Nom- | I wouldn't mind a few UI bits getting an overhaul tho.. quest one for instance |
| 12:53.28 | |pez| | have I missed something the last few months? |
| 12:53.30 | Nom- | |pez|: New Calendar in dfefault UI |
| 12:53.35 | bleeter | |pez|: macros, keybindings, calendar events (wotlk) |
| 12:53.36 | Nom- | as part of 3.0 |
| 12:54.05 | bleeter | Nom-: I wouldn't be surprised if we see itemrack/outfitter at some stage, if not release. they did talk about it way back when. |
| 12:54.18 | |pez| | you know, I'd love some way for 3rd party addons to get some server side storage too. :PØ |
| 12:54.22 | bleeter | *if not at release, patch soon after |
| 12:54.28 | Nom- | oh, and the other thing i want to see is popup buttons... so you can stack several spells on top of one another |
| 12:54.34 | bleeter | though if it's soon after, a few folks will try and code stuff.. would hate to see wasted work |
| 12:55.28 | Nom- | So spell groups... things like judgemnt... if i could right-click on it in the middle of a fight and change between light/wisdom/justice that would rock |
| 12:55.47 | bleeter | Nom-: try Opie |
| 12:55.52 | Nom- | Unless i'm mistaken, can't do it without having privileged UI ? |
| 12:56.12 | alestane | Nom-: I'm pushing for the change that will make that possible. |
| 12:56.35 | Nom- | alestane: Excellent! :D |
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| 12:56.54 | alestane | It's a fairly small one. |
| 12:57.06 | Nom- | I'm sure Paladin isn't alone here... maybe they are... but i have judgement as my 'Q' key, so being able to change between the 3 new judgements would help SO much |
| 12:57.35 | alestane | You can _almost_ do it now. |
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| 12:57.50 | bleeter | ooh baybee |
| 12:57.50 | Nom- | Except not in combat |
| 13:00.37 | Nom- | ooo is there a new API for the calendar ingame ? |
| 13:00.42 | Nom- | I just had an idea for an addon :D |
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| 13:01.04 | alestane | There's supposed to be a quest or something to get to Dalaran now? |
| 13:01.05 | krka | could be useful for loot distribution systems |
| 13:01.09 | krka | alestane: yes |
| 13:01.19 | bleeter | krka: I was just thinking that |
| 13:01.20 | krka | i found one in valgard |
| 13:01.27 | alestane | Good thing I still have the flight path. |
| 13:01.36 | bleeter | as in.. wonder if there's a hole in the API so I can make every day my birthday and ppl automatically give me gold |
| 13:01.39 | Nom- | Export ingame events to an LUA dump... read the LUA dump into a Java desktop app which will give you warnings when ingame events are gonna happen! |
| 13:01.45 | bleeter | ie, loot distribution |
| 13:01.55 | krka | Nom-: If you are referring to the programming language, you should write Lua instead of LUA |
| 13:02.20 | krka | a google calendar syncer would be nice too |
| 13:02.27 | Nom- | Indeed |
| 13:02.31 | Nom- | And Outlook |
| 13:02.47 | krka | or, just log into the freaking game to look :P |
| 13:02.59 | wereHamster | sync with iPhone :) |
| 13:03.01 | Nom- | Can anyone do me a favor and see if the game already stores a cached calendar data copy? :) |
| 13:03.06 | bleeter | so no baby cub seal club, no poly penguin (without glyph).. better be a freaken decent Towel in wrath or it can go DIAF |
| 13:03.35 | Nom- | krka: I'm thinking more like ... I add an ingame event for a raid i want to attent (Kara pug for instance), and that can be exported to my phone to remind me in case i'm not ingame at the time |
| 13:03.51 | alestane | I don't see a dedicated calendar cache. |
| 13:03.57 | alestane | bleeter: penguin? |
| 13:04.15 | bleeter | well, just need some kinda parser to export to iCal (whatever the RFC is)... ie, addon duplicates the calendar, saves the .lua, external parser converts to iCal (RFC thing)... done |
| 13:04.22 | Nom- | Ok, so i'll have to try and find the UI for it in the interface code... hopefully it's easy enough to pull the data out and save it |
| 13:04.32 | bleeter | alestane: mage poly penguin is a minor glyph to replace poly sheep, so not a new poly spell... :( |
| 13:04.52 | Nom- | bleeter: Exactly... just need to get a copy of the data from someone so I can get to work ^_^ |
| 13:04.58 | alestane | That will still be hilarious. |
| 13:05.17 | Nom- | wow epic... |
| 13:05.25 | Nom- | poly penguin = epic |
| 13:05.55 | bleeter | losing the baby seal club tho |
| 13:06.00 | bleeter | big game breaker |
| 13:06.27 | alestane | Why exactly would you spend several months slaughtering civilians for one of the wrongest items in the game? |
| 13:06.29 | krka | penguin should be considered a buff |
| 13:08.02 | zenzio | WoW needs Anarchy Online's "Pronouncement of Greatness" buff, which transforms a friendly target into a Leet |
| 13:11.09 | bleeter | alestane: Why would anyone spend several months sluaghtering any particular set of pixels? Passes the time, gives entertainment. |
| 13:12.45 | Nom- | What's a good mpq browser ? |
| 13:14.44 | cncfanatics | mpqfs |
| 13:14.45 | cncfanatics | iirc |
| 13:15.39 | Nom- | looks like that's for MacOS ? |
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| 13:16.24 | amro | tried mpqedit? |
| 13:17.10 | Nom- | ahah! that was the one i found the other day |
| 13:17.10 | Nom- | cheers |
| 13:18.31 | Nom- | hmm i can't find an interface directory in any of the MPQ's with that (except for one which has FeedbackUI |
| 13:19.04 | Nom- | oh never mind... there is |
| 13:19.12 | Nom- | 'twas in the enUS folder :P |
| 13:19.49 | amro | ~seen kirov |
| 13:19.55 | purl | kirov <n=Kirov@209-234-175-114.static.twtelecom.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 11h 48m 41s ago, saying: 'rather'. |
| 13:24.50 | alestane | There...at least I can replace my mount with one that works. |
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| 13:30.16 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 13:30.22 | cladhaire | the smooth mana bars are weird |
| 13:32.55 | cladhaire | mana/health |
| 13:33.09 | zenzio | smooth how? |
| 13:33.21 | cladhaire | you're constantly gaining mana |
| 13:33.25 | cladhaire | like every second |
| 13:33.37 | cladhaire | the UNIT_MANA event only fires in ticks, but you actually gain mana constagntly |
| 13:34.56 | MentalPower | anyone know how I can find the UID of the currently logged in session in Windows? |
| 13:36.57 | zenzio | user ID? |
| 13:37.42 | MentalPower | yeah, the rather long ID string |
| 13:37.43 | cncfanatics | cladhaire: its actualy every frame |
| 13:38.08 | MentalPower | I think its actually called an SID in Windows but w/e |
| 13:38.10 | cladhaire | i dont think it can always be |
| 13:38.16 | cladhaire | but i didn't mean a literal second |
| 13:38.53 | Codayus | What language or context? |
| 13:39.21 | Cairenn | Zeksie: denied! |
| 13:39.49 | Drundia | why not? server sends regeneration rate together with UNIT_MANA and your client happily calculates mana for you all the time |
| 13:39.51 | Nom- | anyone able to get me a dump from beta of the args from CALENDAR_EVENT_UPDATE ? |
| 13:39.59 | Nom- | CALENDAR_UPDATE_EVENT sorry |
| 13:40.10 | cladhaire | Drundia: yes, but that doesn't mean you would have a different mana value every single frame |
| 13:40.14 | cladhaire | consider a level 1 |
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| 13:40.21 | cladhaire | consider the variance in frame rate |
| 13:40.23 | frop | hello |
| 13:40.28 | cladhaire | i simply said that it does not update every single frame |
| 13:40.29 | Cairenn | hi |
| 13:40.33 | cladhaire | although in many situations it will appear to |
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| 13:41.27 | Codayus | MentalPower: The answer for SOME variations of your question is: WindowsIdentity.GetCurrent() |
| 13:41.28 | zenzio | speaking of denial, here's malreth |
| 13:41.45 | MentalPower | Codayus: meaning? |
| 13:41.59 | Codayus | http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/sfs49sw0.aspx |
| 13:42.21 | Zeksie | Cairenn ? |
| 13:42.22 | Codayus | If you're writing something in perl, probably not helpful. You didn't specify. :-) |
| 13:42.33 | Cairenn | Zeksie: was just joking around :) |
| 13:42.38 | Cairenn | ignore me |
| 13:42.38 | Zeksie | i r crai |
| 13:43.24 | Zeksie | busy making goldz.. sshh |
| 13:44.01 | Codayus | But I *think* it does what you want. Probably. |
| 13:44.15 | MentalPower | Codayus: I found a script to retrieve the list of SIDs on my machine (http://windowsxp.mvps.org/userpath.htm). I'm trying to finish repairing my profile |
| 13:44.46 | Codayus | Oooh, ugly. |
| 13:47.46 | MentalPower | yeah, I know |
| 13:48.24 | Nom- | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:49.54 | cladhaire | Nom-: huh? I don't understand what you're asking |
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| 13:50.39 | Nom- | i'm trying to work out the API for getting calendar stuff from 3.0 ... without having access to it lol |
| 13:51.27 | Nom- | Stabbing in the dark would be an understatement |
| 13:53.06 | cladhaire | it seems pretty straightforward |
| 13:54.01 | Nom- | just trying to work out what monthOffset is |
| 13:54.01 | Nom- | as in: local pendingInviteIndex, calendarType, eventType, dayTexture = CalendarGetDay(monthOffset, day); |
| 13:54.56 | cladhaire | i'd suspect rather than specifying a month/day pair, you specify a month offset and day |
| 13:54.58 | cladhaire | i.e. 0 is this month, |
| 13:55.00 | cladhaire | 1 is next month |
| 13:55.14 | cncfanatics | why a month offset & a day ? |
| 13:55.19 | cncfanatics | instead of a month offset & a day offset |
| 13:55.24 | Nom- | month and day offset would have been easier lol |
| 13:55.27 | Nom- | i was just thinking that :D |
| 13:55.27 | cladhaire | huh? |
| 13:55.31 | cladhaire | the day is the day offset.. |
| 13:55.38 | cncfanatics | oh, its an offset too |
| 13:55.40 | cncfanatics | good then :) |
| 13:55.41 | cladhaire | naturally |
| 13:55.43 | cladhaire | just on a different base |
| 13:55.45 | Nom- | hmm ok |
| 13:55.45 | cladhaire | by default |
| 13:55.52 | cladhaire | you could do a day offset, like 90 days |
| 13:55.53 | cladhaire | but thats stupid |
| 13:56.00 | cncfanatics | not rly |
| 13:56.03 | Nom- | well actuall |
| 13:56.05 | cladhaire | so instead you specify the month using offsets (which get rid of all the nastiness with negative dates) |
| 13:56.12 | Nom- | for what i'm doing, going from 1 - 90 would be useful |
| 13:56.13 | cladhaire | and then the day of that month you want |
| 13:56.16 | cladhaire | well |
| 13:56.31 | cladhaire | i dunno, i'm just speculating |
| 13:56.34 | Nom- | or whatever the max is (will probably make it configurable later) |
| 13:56.37 | cladhaire | it should be clear from the addon tho |
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| 14:02.11 | Nom- | *sigh* why couldn't blizz be normal and build a method which returns year, month AND day? :P |
| 14:02.37 | MentalPower | date? |
| 14:02.54 | MentalPower | oh calendar, nm |
| 14:02.56 | Nom- | nah it's from their new calendar API |
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| 14:03.46 | malreth | new calendar api |
| 14:05.55 | Nom- | oh they did... thank sanity |
| 14:06.46 | Nom- | or maybe not... can someone on beta try running CalendarGetDate( 0, 5 ) |
| 14:06.47 | Lopeppeppy | What is sanity? |
| 14:06.58 | Nom- | should return a list of args indicating a date 5 days from now |
| 14:07.01 | Nom- | i hope |
| 14:07.15 | malreth | Lopeppeppy: it's what you have that customers suck out of you |
| 14:07.24 | zenzio | oh, sorry Lopeppeppy, I had that destroyed... it threatened my existence |
| 14:08.25 | malreth | SparkleFrame.lua??? "-- YAY FOR SPARKLES~!" |
| 14:09.14 | alestane | malreth: I think that's for the "Acheivement Unlocked!" swoosh effect. |
| 14:09.39 | malreth | the style is different from most of the other stuff in FrameXML |
| 14:10.00 | malreth | just a single global is created |
| 14:11.08 | Pneumatus | Nom-: still need that testing? |
| 14:11.35 | Pneumatus | Nom-: 3, 7, 29, 2008 |
| 14:11.40 | Lopeppeppy | zenzio, scrape up the atoms and give it back, I neeeeeeeed it. |
| 14:12.21 | malreth | There's a problem with the SparkleFrame:New() method, tho |
| 14:12.45 | malreth | the second instantiation of a SparkleFrame with any particular parent causes a name collision |
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| 14:14.24 | malreth | it seems that it should take a second optional argument to be used as the frame name, otherwise it should create an anonymous frame just like if you create a new SparkleFrame with no parent |
| 14:15.01 | Nom- | damn... so it dosn't take offset :( |
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| 14:15.58 | Pneumatus | Nom-: you were hoping for it to return the date in 5 days time? |
| 14:16.13 | Nom- | Yes |
| 14:16.22 | Gnarfoz | did anything regarding :SetHighlightColor() get changed recently? |
| 14:16.33 | Gnarfoz | err SetHighlightTextColor |
| 14:16.36 | Pneumatus | it doesnt appear to take any args |
| 14:17.50 | Nom- | oh ... the events themselves might have a suitable format day |
| 14:17.50 | Nom- | if i'm lucky |
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| 14:23.10 | alestane | Anyone ever consider making a droplet application where you drop a .lua file on it and it build an add-on for you? (.toc, correct folder, etc.?) |
| 14:23.59 | Quezacolt | WoW UI Designer and AddOn Studio for World of Warcraft sound like what you're looking for |
| 14:24.51 | alestane | I'm thinking something VERY simple. |
| 14:25.12 | Gnarfoz | it's SO simple, you could do that yourself, really ;p |
| 14:25.16 | amro | I had a python script... ./mkaddon name and it generates a skelly |
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| 14:25.34 | Gnarfoz | woohoo Bagnon working |
| 14:25.40 | alestane | I probably could, at least for Mac. Heck, I could probably do it in Automator. |
| 14:26.09 | alestane | I'm just thinking it would be nice to have something people could download if they just want to build a quick-fix addon. |
| 14:26.52 | Shirik | wow |
| 14:26.57 | Shirik | improved holy concentration is very OP |
| 14:27.02 | Shirik | not that I'm complaining.... |
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| 14:28.33 | Nom- | Is there a file (or set of files) which define all the blizzard functions/ |
| 14:28.41 | Nom- | Like CalendarGetMonth |
| 14:28.58 | Shirik | any priest like classes want to look at my wotlk spec to see if it's intelligent? |
| 14:29.13 | Shirik | I know it's only theorycrafting at this point |
| 14:29.13 | Shirik | but still |
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| 14:32.12 | amro | Nom-: http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API |
| 14:32.35 | Nom- | ya it doesn't have the new ones, amro :( |
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| 14:47.00 | Kraps | Shirik: can i just see it? |
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| 14:50.22 | Nom- | Nesting tables is valid, right? |
| 14:50.29 | Nom- | foo[bar][baz] etc |
| 14:50.41 | malreth | sure |
| 14:50.54 | Gnarfoz | very much so |
| 14:51.25 | alestane | Shirik: Given Cairenn is AFK, could you approve a little mod called "Blazing Saddles" that just got queued for me? |
| 14:51.27 | malreth | lua> foo={ bar = { baz = { "clinton"} } } print(foo.bar.baz) |
| 14:51.27 | lua_bot | malreth: table: 0x6695a0 |
| 14:51.39 | malreth | lua> foo={ bar = { baz = { "clinton"} } } print(foo.bar.baz[1]) |
| 14:51.39 | Shirik | I dunno |
| 14:51.39 | lua_bot | malreth: clinton |
| 14:51.43 | Shirik | can I really trust you? |
| 14:51.52 | Shirik | Kraps, sure, http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=bAh0zhZfhxcf0qVhVIst |
| 14:51.55 | alestane | You can look at it if you want to... |
| 14:51.57 | Shirik | I'll tell you what I posted on my guild forums too |
| 14:52.17 | Shirik | Guardian spirit is... interesting. It definitely is a talent that could have some uses at very specific points, but it's one of those things that I think might go underused if the need for it doesn't arise. I'm really worried about lacking Mental Agility with COH, but it's the only way I could fit everything in. I also ditched healing prayers, which I have now, mostly because I have found myself not using those spells as much as of late. |
| 14:52.19 | clad|away | anyone have any experience with the MSI Wind, or Advent 4211? |
| 14:52.24 | Shirik | P.S. Is it just me, or is improved holy concentration incredibly OP? I mean, hell, it already procs a ton... |
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| 14:53.04 | clad|away | it really procs that often for you? |
| 14:53.10 | clad|away | i haven't priested in so long |
| 14:53.14 | Shirik | It does |
| 14:53.18 | Shirik | and alestane, I should kill you |
| 14:53.23 | alestane | Why? |
| 14:53.30 | Shirik | not only are you a mac user, you left the __MACOSX folders in :P |
| 14:53.34 | Shirik | but it's ok |
| 14:53.40 | clad|away | EEW |
| 14:53.43 | clad|away | h8 |
| 14:53.45 | alestane | I can't strip them on my end...I would if I knew how. |
| 14:53.59 | Shirik | you get a better os |
| 14:54.00 | Matrix110 | rather approve my Countdown mods its pure awesomeness! |
| 14:54.00 | Shirik | imo :P |
| 14:54.02 | clad|away | use a compression system that doesn't zip resource forks |
| 14:54.04 | Matrix110 | *mod |
| 14:54.55 | Matrix110 | thanks:D |
| 14:54.56 | Shirik | why is your raid warning green |
| 14:54.59 | Shirik | silly man |
| 14:55.18 | Matrix110 | New char |
| 14:55.22 | clad|away | wow |
| 14:55.22 | alestane | Shirik: I have few issues with Vista (or I won't once it gets better supported) but I have a LONG history of Mac OS and a lot of software for it. Not switching anytime soon. |
| 14:55.28 | clad|away | Pain and Suffering is ridiculous |
| 14:55.31 | Nom- | this code feels evil lol |
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| 14:55.44 | Matrix110 | I tested without anything so I know embeds work |
| 14:55.45 | clad|away | alestane: there are plenty of ways to get rid of the resource forks, you should look into it at some point |
| 14:55.56 | Shirik | clad|away, and even still, if I have a 16% proc rate like holy concentration is boasting now |
| 14:56.00 | Shirik | I'll never run out of mana |
| 14:56.09 | alestane | Using a better zip util would probably be a start. |
| 14:56.19 | Shirik | Correct use of holy concentration yields about 2k mana every time it procs |
| 14:56.37 | Shirik | not to mention if it chain procs |
| 14:56.47 | Shirik | lua> 0.16^2 |
| 14:56.47 | lua_bot | Shirik: 0.0256 |
| 14:56.53 | Shirik | 2.5% to have two in a row |
| 14:56.56 | alestane | Shirik: Thank you. |
| 14:57.00 | |Jelly| | Malreth: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3547662746&sid=1#8 -- You're my hero |
| 14:57.06 | Shirik | assuming my spirit and intellect will increase in wotlk |
| 14:57.16 | Shirik | That means I'll be well over 1100 mp5 which I have now |
| 14:57.20 | Nom- | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/92691 <-- can someone sanity check that, and if you're feeling generous, try it in beta to see if it works? XD |
| 14:57.28 | malreth | |Jelly|: that guy was a brat... |
| 14:57.56 | Matrix110 | I like the fact that they reduce consumeable usage even more somehow |
| 14:58.16 | Matrix110 | No excuse for not having enough stuff then! |
| 14:59.33 | |Jelly| | GRR @ Shirik for having T6 Shoulders! :( |
| 14:59.36 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:59.46 | Shirik | the 2 piece T6 bonus is crap |
| 14:59.50 | Shirik | I need the 4 piece bonus... |
| 14:59.54 | Shirik | but the T6 pants are crap tooo |
| 15:00.04 | Shirik | so I'm not quite sure how I'm going to get the 4 piece bonus |
| 15:00.05 | |Jelly| | Don't care about either; I just want the shoulder graphic. |
| 15:00.12 | Shirik | Get the ones from RoS then |
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| 15:00.16 | Shirik | same graphic, just different color |
| 15:00.18 | alestane | clad|away: looks like I can just zip it from the command line to leave out the metadata? |
| 15:00.24 | Shirik | And I hate the graphic tbh |
| 15:00.31 | |Jelly| | You would. |
| 15:00.32 | clad|away | aye, unix zip isn't resource fork aware |
| 15:01.01 | Shirik | the biggest issue I have with the mac os "resource forks," no offense alestane, is that they're practically impossible to unzip on windows |
| 15:01.14 | Shirik | because windows unzips the "file" first, and then complains because the folder can't be made because the file is already there |
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| 15:01.40 | Shirik | and it stops on the first problem, so you do it once, fix one, then do the next, fix that, until you're done |
| 15:01.57 | Nom- | Case sensitivity never helps when it comes to windows :) |
| 15:02.03 | Nom- | or rather, insensitvity |
| 15:02.10 | Shirik | tbh they're the same case anyway |
| 15:02.29 | Shirik | I think this is similar to Windows' ADS |
| 15:02.53 | Duman | hmm |
| 15:03.01 | Shirik | rofl |
| 15:03.10 | Shirik | ADS redirects to Fork on wikipedia |
| 15:03.17 | Shirik | So it's the same as Windows' ADS :P |
| 15:04.29 | |Jelly| | Aside from WhoDrop, I need an addon that tells you where an item is from in the tooltip. GOGO! :) |
| 15:04.33 | Nom- | hmmm |
| 15:05.04 | alestane | Shirik: Even Apple doesn't really like resource forks anymore, but they're a holdover from earlier days of the operating system. If one is conscientious about the software one installs, one can run Mac OS X from a UFS drive and not deal with them. |
| 15:05.22 | malreth | alestane: what text editor do you use? |
| 15:06.14 | alestane | malreth: Smultron. |
| 15:06.14 | clad|away | i haven't had resource forks hanging around for so long |
| 15:06.14 | clad|away | but thats what you get when you use vim :P |
| 15:06.15 | malreth | i disable "saved state" info in text wrangler which prevents resource forks from being generated |
| 15:06.22 | Lopeppeppy | |Jelly|, the only one I've seen is WhoDrop, but I wonder if anything in the Auctioneer package does? |
| 15:06.51 | alestane | I had that issue when I used BBEdit. |
| 15:07.07 | malreth | Text Wrangler == BBEdit Lite |
| 15:08.18 | Nom- | bleh... kinda hard to test an addon without access to the client lol... *ponder* |
| 15:10.01 | Duman | jelly, mendeleev - but that's probably overkill |
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| 15:11.07 | Duman | ( http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Mendeleev ) |
| 15:11.31 | clad|away | alestane: I use MacVim, it's actively supported, pretty, and works :P |
| 15:11.44 | alestane | What does it do? |
| 15:12.06 | alestane | Archiving software? |
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| 15:12.24 | alestane | Oh, text editor. |
| 15:13.31 | clad|away | its vim, the editor |
| 15:13.37 | Duman | yay, vim! |
| 15:13.49 | Duman | j/k :) |
| 15:15.10 | amro | yeah, since emacs lost :P |
| 15:15.59 | Dark_Elf | ~seen Ag |
| 15:16.02 | purl | ag is currently on #gnu-kbsd (2d 6h 23m 49s), last said: 'tarzeau: i didn't check yet, i was eager to hear about your progress (like the moocher i am) :]'. |
| 15:17.29 | Nom- | oh sweet... google calendar understands iCalendar format too ? |
| 15:17.51 | Nom- | That's legendary... so all I have to do it convert to iCalendar, and it can be read by Outlook, Google, Entourage (probably), iCal |
| 15:17.56 | Nom- | That's so awesome |
| 15:18.04 | Ackis | cog|away: I hate you and your murky :P :( /emoslit |
| 15:18.17 | nevcairiel | There is also a Sync tool that can do a 2way sync of your native outlook calendar |
| 15:18.29 | nevcairiel | works like a charm |
| 15:18.39 | clad|away | that he hasn't redeemed yet |
| 15:18.39 | clad|away | . |
| 15:19.02 | Ackis | clad|away: I have one of those, just need a CE upgrade ticket and a murky pet and my OCDness will be sated |
| 15:19.11 | clad|away | :P |
| 15:19.12 | Nom- | That may be slightly harder... I'll certainly look into it tho |
| 15:19.20 | Ackis | so uhh hook me up? :P |
| 15:19.26 | Nom- | I'll concentrate on taking the data export and making an iCalendar file |
| 15:19.37 | Nom- | iCal4j fw |
| 15:19.38 | Nom- | ftw |
| 15:22.29 | Shirik | krka: ping |
| 15:24.57 | Ackis | cogwheel: I h8 u http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8540544284&sid=2000 GIMME UR MURKY |
| 15:25.13 | cogwheel | NO U |
| 15:25.23 | Ackis | your mom! ahaha |
| 15:30.49 | Nom- | hmm do addons made for 3.0 count in the key giveaway? heh |
| 15:33.02 | cogwheel | gl! |
| 15:33.08 | cogwheel | (not on the murky bit :P ) |
| 15:33.12 | Ackis | on getting the pet or the job? |
| 15:33.12 | Ackis | ahahah |
| 15:33.14 | Ackis | <3 cogwheel |
| 15:33.16 | Nom- | hehehe |
| 15:33.52 | Nom- | bah... someone want to post a feature request? wtb a new Calendar date function which takes month/day offset and returns the year/month/day/dayofweek |
| 15:34.23 | Nom- | Just so I can get rid of my evil, evil function |
| 15:34.34 | cogwheel | Nom-: perhaps it's part of the new calendar UI? |
| 15:34.52 | Nom- | Nope... at least not currently in use in the blizzcode |
| 15:35.14 | Nom- | They have one which takes the month, day offset and gives you the year, month, dayofweek |
| 15:35.18 | Nom- | but not the fricken day :( |
| 15:35.51 | Nom- | I don't get that... in fact, that can't be right... *goes back to re-examine blizzcode* |
| 15:36.56 | Nom- | local nextMonth, nextYear, nextNumDays = CalendarGetMonth(1); |
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| 15:37.14 | Nom- | local pendingInviteIndex, calendarType, eventType, dayTexture = CalendarGetDay(monthOffset, day); |
| 15:37.46 | Nom- | err not that one |
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| 15:38.10 | Nom- | but those are the only two methods I can see which use month/day offsets |
| 15:39.01 | Nom- | at least i have number of days in month.. so i've written some evil code to do the manipulation myself |
| 15:39.52 | Nom- | so excited now lol.. want to try this out XD |
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| 15:42.36 | Atriace | ~seen beladona |
| 15:42.38 | purl | beladona <n=sluster@24.129.136.26> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 3d 18h 42m 38s ago, saying: 'bbl'. |
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| 15:43.40 | Atriace | Dolby: I've setup an account on CIA.vc, added my user (matching username info from wowinterface) and added my project to the account. |
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| 15:44.32 | Atriace | Under the Repository options for the project, I checked the box for "Connect to public Subversion repository" and put in the link given to me by wowinterface, but I'm getting the error "callback_get_login required". What am I doing wrong? |
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| 15:44.57 | clad|away | if your project on wowinterface? |
| 15:45.01 | clad|away | then its simple |
| 15:45.02 | Atriace | Should I be pointing to svn://svn.wowinterface.com/ instead of the project repository? I don't see a field for entering a password. |
| 15:45.05 | clad|away | you don't need to configure anything in via |
| 15:45.23 | clad|away | go to miscellaneous options on your project: http://www.wowinterface.com/svn.php |
| 15:45.25 | Atriace | Sorry to interrupt. |
| 15:45.31 | clad|away | and put in the CIA project name |
| 15:45.32 | clad|away | and click save |
| 15:45.34 | clad|away | and it's done |
| 15:45.40 | Atriace | orly? |
| 15:45.55 | Fisker- | ...with a poisonous dagger |
| 15:46.45 | clad|away | Atriace: the post-commit hook uses RPC to ping cia and let them know there's been an update |
| 15:46.54 | Atriace | clad|away: are spaces not allowed in that project name? Because I've had that box entered on wowinterface for the past month |
| 15:47.06 | clad|away | you don't have to connect to anything, just make the project name, and set it to announce |
| 15:47.19 | clad|away | Atriace: probably not, hold on a sec |
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| 15:48.39 | Atriace | also, "set it to announce"? |
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| 15:48.57 | Atriace | I can't find an option for that, unless you're refering to the "Commit Email" |
| 15:49.05 | clad|away | no |
| 15:49.11 | clad|away | you have to add the IRC bot, etc. |
| 15:49.20 | clad|away | you don't do ANY svn/commit email configuration on cia |
| 15:49.27 | clad|away | it was probably the space in the project name |
| 15:49.29 | Daedals | :P still no beta key |
| 15:49.36 | clad|away | i altered the script |
| 15:49.50 | clad|away | what is the project name? |
| 15:50.03 | Atriace | Alright, well I made the changes to the project name. I'll try a commit to see if it responds. |
| 15:50.10 | Atriace | clad: SpartanUI |
| 15:50.11 | clad|away | let me test first |
| 15:50.13 | clad|away | don't blow a commit |
| 15:50.14 | clad|away | hol don |
| 15:51.03 | clad|away | has CIA ever gotten any of your commits? |
| 15:51.09 | Atriace | Nope |
| 15:51.11 | clad|away | k |
| 15:51.12 | clad|away | one moment |
| 15:52.03 | clad|away | http://cia.vc/stats/project/SpartanUI |
| 15:52.04 | clad|away | okay that worked |
| 15:52.09 | clad|away | you can change the name back to having a space |
| 15:52.12 | clad|away | so we can test it that way too |
| 15:52.13 | clad|away | on rev 2 |
| 15:52.27 | clad|away | obviously the irc bot still isn't happy tho |
| 15:52.31 | Atriace | Alright, one sec... |
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| 15:52.51 | Atriace | does it need a botsnack? ;) |
| 15:52.58 | clad|away | heh |
| 15:53.01 | Atriace | Space added. |
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| 15:53.49 | clad|away | do you have a link to the CIA project page for that one? |
| 15:54.07 | Atriace | um... I'm going to say no. |
| 15:54.13 | Atriace | I'm not sure what you mean. |
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| 15:54.34 | clad|away | I need the web address |
| 15:54.37 | clad|away | to the project page |
| 15:54.43 | clad|away | I'm having difficulty looking it up |
| 15:54.48 | Atriace | on CIA.vc or wowinterface? |
| 15:54.56 | clad|away | i just found it |
| 15:54.58 | clad|away | on cia |
| 15:55.02 | clad|away | the search wasn't finding it |
| 15:55.06 | Atriace | http://cia.vc/stats/project/SpartanUI |
| 15:55.07 | clad|away | okay |
| 15:55.09 | clad|away | both of those work now. |
| 15:55.16 | clad|away | you should haev gotten commit emails if you had that set up |
| 15:55.19 | clad|away | pick which of the two you want |
| 15:55.22 | clad|away | and i'll do the commits in between |
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| 15:55.25 | clad|away | and we'll get the bot configured. |
| 15:55.35 | clad|away | I can edit the one with the space to get the bot working |
| 15:55.48 | Atriace | If it makes it easier lets just not do the space. |
| 15:55.56 | clad|away | it really doesn't matter |
| 15:55.59 | clad|away | so just pick one :P |
| 15:56.02 | clad|away | either is fine with me |
| 15:56.06 | Atriace | And the thing with CIA.vc just got officially setup today, so... |
| 15:56.11 | clad|away | without a space starts at rev 1 so it appeals to my sense of sexyness |
| 15:56.20 | Atriace | SpartanUI will do fine then. |
| 15:56.30 | clad|away | all you had to do was make the project |
| 15:56.35 | clad|away | and then you needed to find our IRC bot. |
| 15:56.37 | clad|away | http://cia.vc/account/bots/7232/ |
| 15:56.42 | clad|away | i'm adding your project to the filter |
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| 15:56.46 | Atriace | Danka |
| 15:57.02 | clad|away | did you change the wowi project name back to without a space? |
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| 15:57.11 | Atriace | Just did. |
| 15:57.26 | Atriace | haha |
| 15:57.32 | Atriace | Looky that, it's working. |
| 15:57.58 | clad|away | 16:57 CIA-21: SpartanUI: Ansu-58968 * r2 / (development/ trunk/): Renamed for SUI development |
| 15:58.03 | clad|away | inc spam in that channel :P |
| 15:58.04 | Atriace | Yeah I saw it. |
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| 15:59.00 | clad|away | enjoy the emails :P |
| 15:59.03 | Stan_ | which channel? :P |
| 15:59.21 | clad|away | #wowuidev-commits |
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| 16:04.18 | clad|away | alright, i'm off and will be back later |
| 16:04.21 | clad|away | PTFO BITCHEZ |
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| 16:27.39 | Duman | boo, forums |
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| 16:34.28 | Kraps | ya |
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| 16:52.22 | krka | Shirik: yes? |
| 16:52.30 | Shirik | ummm |
| 16:52.37 | nevcairiel | now he forgot |
| 16:52.41 | Shirik | :( |
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| 16:53.30 | Shirik | but yeah, I'm trying to implement this, krka :) |
| 16:53.32 | Shirik | It's going ok |
| 16:53.40 | Shirik | I forgot what I was going to ask, which probably means I resolved it |
| 16:54.11 | krka | right |
| 16:54.33 | krka | you're making a virtual machine that handles the output from string.byte, i presume? |
| 16:54.44 | Shirik | string.byte? |
| 16:54.55 | krka | err, string.dump |
| 16:55.27 | Shirik | I'm still debating on that actually. I want to be able to handle any code, and I don't want to rely on libraries too much (however I think the string library will be required) |
| 16:56.17 | Shirik | So I want to be able to load multiple chunks |
| 16:56.49 | Shirik | though now that I actually think about it, string.dump should be fine... |
| 16:56.58 | krka | that's how i'd do it atleast |
| 16:57.00 | Shirik | I haven't actually gotten to that part yet :) One step at a time |
| 16:57.19 | Shirik | I'm still working out how I'm going to store a state, closure, etc. |
| 16:57.22 | krka | you'd have to implement your own closure structure too |
| 16:57.39 | Shirik | I think I have a decent idea for how to work with closures |
| 16:59.09 | Shirik | Oh I do have a question though; does bytecode ever have a positive stack index? Or does it always refer backwards? That is to say, do I need to keep an eye on where a function started on the stack? I notice you don't, I think |
| 16:59.27 | Shirik | I need to research the opcodes a little bit more I think |
| 17:00.08 | wereHamster | you're making a VM to execute Lua written in Lua itself? |
| 17:00.13 | Shirik | yes |
| 17:00.18 | Shirik | long story :) |
| 17:00.39 | wereHamster | make it short then :) |
| 17:00.43 | Shirik | obviously it would be more than assert(loadstring(...))(...) |
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| 17:01.28 | Shirik | wereHamster: My eventual goal is the fact that by doing this, I'll have more control over Lua while remaining in WoW sandbox. In particular, this would enable the ability to debug code much like we are all familiar with in gdb |
| 17:01.48 | wereHamster | is it to exploit parts of WoW or get out of the sandbox? |
| 17:01.59 | Shirik | it isn't really possible to get out of the sandbox |
| 17:02.08 | Shirik | in fact, by doing this, you're essentially putting yourself in a sandbox inside the sandbox |
| 17:02.26 | Shirik | However, it would enable me to set debug hooks, etc., which thus allows me to set up breakpoints |
| 17:02.43 | wereHamster | Neat. Good luck then |
| 17:02.59 | Shirik | I plan to put this out further than wow, but that was what triggered me to do it :P |
| 17:03.40 | Kirov | Shirik - wait wait, full lua debugging in wow? |
| 17:03.46 | Shirik | yup |
| 17:03.52 | Shirik | it could potentially be very slow |
| 17:03.56 | Shirik | but we won't know until we try |
| 17:04.17 | Kirov | slower than print("ZOMG! I RUN") |
| 17:04.20 | Kirov | I think not |
| 17:04.26 | Shirik | lol |
| 17:04.40 | Shirik | The biggest problem I'm facing is bitwise operations |
| 17:04.44 | Shirik | I REALLY don't want to rely on bitlib |
| 17:04.51 | Shirik | but I might have to |
| 17:04.58 | Gnarfoz | does tuller ever come here? |
| 17:05.02 | Gnarfoz | ~seen tuller |
| 17:05.05 | purl | tuller <n=muffins@c-76-27-160-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 18h 35m 10s ago, saying: 'science would happen'. |
| 17:05.05 | Shirik | from time to time, yes |
| 17:05.11 | Gnarfoz | seems so |
| 17:05.37 | amro | oh Kirov, the globes look awesome |
| 17:05.54 | amro | a bit too glossy, but other than that I love em |
| 17:06.09 | Kirov | they don't move too fast? |
| 17:08.56 | Kirov | (as far as the animation |
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| 17:14.27 | Fisker- | i'm dying kd3 |
| 17:14.29 | Fisker- | halp me |
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| 17:17.04 | Fisker- | servers are down :( |
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| 17:18.13 | laeg_ | does pitbull not come with avatars? |
| 17:18.23 | laeg_ | i installed adept and it works with the default frames but not pitbull |
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| 17:18.28 | Fisker- | i hate you Shirik :( |
| 17:21.01 | Kirov | I'm pretty sure pitbull has 3d model frames |
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| 17:24.14 | Vangual | yes it does |
| 17:24.52 | Vangual | but i think it doesn't enable portraits or at least the 3d setting by default |
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| 17:25.32 | Vangual | and yea, don't need adept for pitbull |
| 17:26.15 | laeg_ | Kirov, Vangual: ty |
| 17:30.14 | Shirik | you know, in undertaking this project, I have determined that there are some very strange things the Lua compiler does |
| 17:30.20 | ScytheBlade1 | I love how all of the beta changes totally nuked the forum servers into oblivion |
| 17:30.25 | Shirik | krka: Do you happen to have any documentation on the opcodes at all? |
| 17:30.47 | Shirik | For example, "a,b = nil" does not compile the same as "a,b = nil, nil" |
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| 17:33.16 | Fisker- | i cannot live with you Shirik |
| 17:33.44 | Dashkal | Anybody who has installed wow on linux from the cds about? Um... how do you manage to swap them when linux is "helpfully" keeping me from ejecting the disc while mounted? |
| 17:33.44 | Gnarfoz | then don't move in |
| 17:34.11 | Shirik | Dashkal: I've always installed to another partition and then just copied over in Linux tbh |
| 17:34.16 | Shirik | s/partition/os/ |
| 17:34.22 | Dashkal | Damn, this computer is pure-linux |
| 17:34.27 | Shirik | umount --force ? |
| 17:34.30 | Shirik | I dunno if that'll work |
| 17:34.41 | Gnarfoz | I've never seen umount --force work better than umount ;D |
| 17:34.41 | kd3 | dash; if you've got the disk space, just rip the CDs, put all of the .mpqs in one folder and run the installer from the HDD |
| 17:34.55 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 17:35.12 | Dashkal | ooo, I'll try that if this force umount doesn't work |
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| 17:35.40 | Shirik | servers starting to come back up, btw |
| 17:35.52 | Shirik | of course, my server is always last |
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| 17:36.40 | Dashkal | Is mobhealth really default UI now? |
| 17:36.45 | wereHamster | Dashkal: copy all cds into a directory and then install wow from there |
| 17:36.47 | kd3 | atm, yes |
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| 17:37.08 | kd3 | I honestly expect it'll last as long as the potion nerf and the minlevel-74 dalaran |
| 17:37.11 | Kirov | real numbers for mob health? |
| 17:37.12 | Dashkal | wereHamster: Yeah, that'/ll be my fallback if this blows up in my face. But a force umount seems to have worked |
| 17:37.13 | Kirov | hmm |
| 17:37.16 | kd3 | kitob; urd |
| 17:37.26 | kd3 | bah, home row please kd... |
| 17:37.28 | kd3 | kirov; yes |
| 17:37.42 | Dashkal | minlevel 74 dalaran? I take it they didn't like lowbies hearthing to shatt? |
| 17:38.03 | Vangual | dalaran mages are such elitists |
| 17:38.08 | Kirov | kf4= moce! |
| 17:38.36 | kd3 | anyone can get there if they bum a portal from a mage or a summon from a lock, but otherwise you can't get in unless you complete http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:The_Magical_Kingdom_of_Dalaran |
| 17:38.38 | Gnarfoz | Dashkal: um, I've not tried, but you could be summoned and set your HS there, I guess? it's just that dalaran is floating above a higher level zone... |
| 17:38.39 | Hirsute | Wait, what? You can't enter Dalaran at lower than 74? |
| 17:38.59 | Dashkal | Gnarfoz: that's how I always got my lowbies to shatt. |
| 17:39.03 | Hirsute | Aaah, okay. I was wondering if they instanced it. |
| 17:39.03 | Vangual | yea can't get there easily. to get there officially you need a lv74 quest |
| 17:39.27 | Hirsute | But you could still pick up a summon from a lock or a port from a mage, I assume. |
| 17:39.41 | Dashkal | I'd get a mage to port me in and promptly bind in shattrath. Kinda-sorta-weak mage ports |
| 17:39.45 | Vangual | most likely |
| 17:39.48 | Hirsute | <--Will shut up now. |
| 17:40.05 | Kirov | "You've just beaten the Lich King and saved the entire world, what are you going to do next?!" "We're going to Dalaran World!" |
| 17:40.49 | Pneumatus | Dalaran is a pita at the moment, unless they finally allowed mounts in the last build |
| 17:40.57 | Kirov | (magic kingdom == disneyland / disney world ... no?) |
| 17:41.15 | kd3 | no, no mounts yet |
| 17:41.16 | Hirsute | Aye |
| 17:41.20 | kd3 | yes, magic kingdom = disney |
| 17:41.24 | kd3 | and that trivia's going poof |
| 17:41.28 | alestane | No old mounts anyway. |
| 17:42.24 | Dashkal | potion sickness? How many pots until you get that debuff? |
| 17:42.27 | Kirov | So ... anyone else having problems with the forums? |
| 17:42.33 | kd3 | 1 |
| 17:42.39 | Dashkal | ... |
| 17:42.41 | kd3 | yes, blame liveside maintenance |
| 17:42.43 | alestane | Dashkal: 1, until you've been out of combat. |
| 17:42.44 | Dashkal | that's one hell of a change |
| 17:43.17 | Pneumatus | yeh, stops pot spamming on every cooldown |
| 17:43.22 | Dashkal | I can think of the odd solo-fight I've done where I've needed to pot twice |
| 17:43.32 | Duman | whee |
| 17:44.02 | NightHawkTheSane | look at the bright side: you'll stop spending so much money on pots? >.>> |
| 17:44.17 | Gnarfoz | who spends money on pots |
| 17:44.24 | Lopeppeppy | Um, me. |
| 17:44.25 | Gnarfoz | oh right, non-alchemists! |
| 17:44.29 | Gnarfoz | those exist? |
| 17:44.32 | Dashkal | ok, the DK mount looks like they killed and raised big bird... |
| 17:44.37 | Gnarfoz | anyway, that's the end of boss abilities that drain mana, then |
| 17:44.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Gnarfoz: nah, not even, everyone has an herbalist and an alchy friend i figure. :P |
| 17:44.48 | nevcairiel | not necessarily Gnarfoz |
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| 17:45.12 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: sure, do kaz'rogal without mana pots then. or kazzak. ;> |
| 17:45.20 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: no problem |
| 17:45.23 | nevcairiel | at all |
| 17:45.25 | Kirov | Yeah, most of the people in my guild are alchohalics. |
| 17:45.27 | nevcairiel | i never used pots on those |
| 17:45.28 | nevcairiel | o.O |
| 17:45.28 | Gnarfoz | uhm for all classes? |
| 17:45.57 | Gnarfoz | not just priests with 700+ mp5 oO |
| 17:46.02 | nevcairiel | Kazzak is like short enough to only drink one potion |
| 17:46.14 | nevcairiel | kazrogal, get shadow resistance imho |
| 17:46.19 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 17:46.27 | NightHawkTheSane | I've done that fight only needing 1-2 pots. |
| 17:46.44 | nevcairiel | I never drank one potion on either |
| 17:46.51 | nevcairiel | ok i can cheat anyway |
| 17:47.01 | nevcairiel | i can shift to bear and evade the mana drain on kazrogal |
| 17:47.19 | NightHawkTheSane | i have to use at least one typically as a resto shaman. |
| 17:47.33 | nevcairiel | so one, thats fine with the debuff ;) |
| 17:47.40 | ScytheBlade1 | heh. I /was/ going to say that they fixed the Dalaran FP so that you no longer get No Man's Land, but it would seem that it was just lag preventing that. |
| 17:48.07 | NightHawkTheSane | on the other hand, if i get unlucky with resists. >.> |
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| 17:48.59 | Kirov | iceblock = win |
| 17:49.25 | Kirov | except I'm not ice, so I only get it once |
| 17:49.31 | Pneumatus | the EU server still doesnt appear to be up :< |
| 17:49.44 | Kirov | I'm actually the only fire mage in my guild. |
| 17:49.55 | Kirov | Every damn mage on the server I'm on is ice. |
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| 17:53.33 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32yrv9iAod4 |
| 17:53.40 | Shirik | ^ promise it's not garth brooks |
| 17:54.30 | ScytheBlade1 | That doesn't mean much |
| 17:54.34 | Kirov | Heh, an article about Sony having a bad fiscal year so far notes how "not even increased sales of the PS3" is helping... of course not! Each PS3 costs Sony ~$500! |
| 17:55.12 | Kirov | Sony LOOSES money on hardware sales, so better PS3 sales means a net loss. |
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| 17:55.38 | Shirik | that's because it's a basket item |
| 17:55.43 | Shirik | you don't just buy a PS3 |
| 17:55.49 | Shirik | so they can do that |
| 17:55.59 | alestane | "loss leader". |
| 17:56.03 | Shirik | that too |
| 17:56.12 | Shirik | That's what my aunt calls it, but I'm not a marketing guy |
| 17:56.30 | Shirik | common marketing strategy, though, actually. Take the computers best buy sells. Best buy only makes about $10 on each computer they sell |
| 17:56.50 | Shirik | Which is why when I worked there, I would never buy them at employee price because it would be more expensive (I didn't buy them anyway, but that's not the point) |
| 17:57.11 | Shirik | On the other hand, the USB cables that you have to buy with every printer costs you about $35 and costs them about $0.50 |
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| 17:58.19 | Kraps | in order for an addon to take effect, do i have to exit the game, or is it enough to logout to the main screen? |
| 17:58.27 | Kirov | Still, they have to buy a lot to offset the $500 hit |
| 17:58.33 | ScytheBlade1 | "take effect"? |
| 17:58.33 | Shirik | if it's a new addon, you have to fully quit |
| 17:58.44 | nevcairiel | Kraps: if you add new files, you need to completly restart |
| 17:58.45 | Shirik | if there are any new files at all, or changes to the toc, you have to fully quit |
| 17:58.49 | Kraps | dammit |
| 17:59.27 | Kirov | Kraps - Any file that exists in the addons folder when you first start the game will work, any new file (by name, overwriting existing files is fine) will require a full restart to desktop. |
| 18:00.40 | Kraps | how do i skip the launcher? |
| 18:00.46 | Shirik | run wow.exe? |
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| 18:00.52 | Lunessa | STATION |
| 18:01.05 | Kraps | ok |
| 18:01.08 | nevcairiel | or just untick the "Show Launcher" checkbox when your game started? :) |
| 18:01.16 | Kirov | ^^^ that too |
| 18:01.18 | Shirik | oh |
| 18:01.21 | Shirik | I didn't know you could do that |
| 18:01.28 | Pneumatus | the latter means if there is a patch pushed the launcher will show up |
| 18:01.28 | Shirik | I run wow.exe because I want to run with -console |
| 18:01.47 | nevcairiel | its always better to use the launcher with the checkbox off for getting updates |
| 18:01.49 | Kirov | Shirik - hax! |
| 18:02.03 | sylvanaar | what is -console? |
| 18:02.07 | Shirik | enable console |
| 18:02.13 | nevcairiel | for some reason the hotkey for showing the console doesnt work for me |
| 18:02.16 | Shirik | really? |
| 18:02.18 | Shirik | that's odd |
| 18:02.30 | nevcairiel | i rebound it for some spell =P |
| 18:02.31 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa-dear. |
| 18:02.33 | Shirik | haha |
| 18:02.37 | sylvanaar | is it just a command console? |
| 18:02.59 | Shirik | so when you push `, the console shows up, yes sylvanaar. Nice thing about it is (a) you get to see output from console, and (b) it has tab completion |
| 18:03.15 | Lunessa | The hotkey is typically the tilde "~" |
| 18:03.23 | ScytheBlade1 | The console output is quite revealing at times |
| 18:03.35 | cog|away | \o/ at already having DIRECTV |
| 18:03.35 | sylvanaar | Shirik i never knew it was there |
| 18:03.48 | cogwheel | must. DVR. BlizzCon. |
| 18:04.02 | Kraps | and youtube it |
| 18:04.04 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:04.43 | ScytheBlade1 | oh sdklfjsdklfj |
| 18:04.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Quest mob at 5% |
| 18:04.54 | Kraps | really, it sucks not having decent vids of the wwi |
| 18:04.55 | ScytheBlade1 | --> disconnect, world server down |
| 18:04.55 | batbot | ScytheBlade1: @ [string "disconnect, world server down"]:1: '=' expected near 'server' |
| 18:05.01 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, whoops |
| 18:05.06 | cogwheel | haha |
| 18:05.14 | cogwheel | even you telling us about it failed |
| 18:05.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I know :( |
| 18:05.22 | Shirik | sylvanaar: console: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/ec43a8cc6e5daf87190875c11d435b0f.jpg |
| 18:05.25 | cogwheel | /comfort |
| 18:05.36 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:06.02 | Duman | LOL |
| 18:06.55 | sylvanaar | the console is neat, can you make it bigger? |
| 18:07.05 | Nom- | ooo perdy |
| 18:07.16 | ReAn | Console? |
| 18:07.22 | ReAn | this a ui mod or part of wow itself? |
| 18:07.24 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: another DC? |
| 18:07.27 | Nom- | ui mod |
| 18:07.42 | Lopeppeppy | Cogwheel, I'll totally pay to see that dvr. |
| 18:07.46 | sylvanaar | i cant believe i havent ever seen that- it has so much useful stuff |
| 18:08.06 | kamdis | one of the beta threads on the barber shop is hilarious. "where's my fauxhoawk option?" "NE Mohawk LFG Heroic MrT" |
| 18:08.18 | Lopeppeppy | Yay! |
| 18:08.33 | kd3 | me? nah. I've got errands to run |
| 18:09.12 | ReAn | maybe someone here can help me cuz #LUA is dead |
| 18:09.36 | ReAn | Just can't remember if LUA Supports Function Overloading or if you have to detect which params were used in the actual function |
| 18:09.48 | |pez| | FINALLY! |
| 18:09.51 | krka | ReAn: If you are referring to the programming language, you should write Lua instead of LUA |
| 18:09.53 | |pez| | ... I found my bikini |
| 18:10.08 | nevcairiel | How long did you search? ;) |
| 18:10.24 | |pez| | oh, 30 minutes. |
| 18:10.36 | cogwheel | ReAn: vararg is the way to go |
| 18:10.54 | |pez| | I knew where it was, there was just tidying having to be done to get to it. |
| 18:10.55 | cogwheel | using the ... syntax |
| 18:11.32 | cogwheel | ReAn: unfortunately, the online version of Programming in LUA (sry krka :P ) doesn't cover it. |
| 18:11.49 | cogwheel | since it didn't exist until 5.1 |
| 18:11.54 | ReAn | :( |
| 18:11.58 | Fisker- | cogwheel |
| 18:12.00 | Fisker- | halp |
| 18:12.03 | cogwheel | you can read about it in the manual though |
| 18:12.05 | Fisker- | i'm bad at handshaking |
| 18:12.26 | Fisker- | that or the beta server is bad at handshaking |
| 18:12.36 | Fisker- | by now i could've been halfway to level 77 :( |
| 18:13.14 | Shirik | Nom-: Not a mod |
| 18:13.16 | Shirik | it's part of wowo |
| 18:13.18 | Shirik | wow* |
| 18:13.37 | Bouvi | Hey all, just returned to WoW and thinking of getting back into some mods. Will work on updating my Autoloot FU and play with some UIs. What is new and great in the UI world now? |
| 18:13.50 | Nom- | Shirik: Really? New in 3.0? Never seen it before... |
| 18:13.54 | Shirik | uh |
| 18:13.58 | Shirik | no, new in like 1.0 |
| 18:14.05 | Nom- | hmmm |
| 18:14.06 | Shirik | just it's disabled |
| 18:14.06 | cogwheel | lua> function foo(param1, ...) print(param1); print(select("#", ...)); local x, y, z = ...; print(x, y, z); print(...); print(select(2, ...)); end foo("hi", "bye", "whazza") |
| 18:14.07 | lua_bot | cogwheel: hi, 2, bye, whazza, nil, bye, whazza, whazza |
| 18:14.10 | Nom- | ok then lol |
| 18:14.11 | Shirik | you have to start up wow with -console as an argument |
| 18:14.14 | Shirik | wow.exe -console |
| 18:14.16 | cogwheel | ReAn: ^ |
| 18:14.17 | Nom- | o nice |
| 18:14.26 | ReAn | thanks cogwheel |
| 18:14.27 | Pneumatus | Fisker-: was hoping to ding 77 before my raid tonight, but the EU server crapout has put pay to that :< |
| 18:14.48 | alestane | |pez|: sounds like fun, if your taste in swimwear is anything like your taste in shoes. |
| 18:15.03 | cogwheel | woops ... meant for 4 params... |
| 18:15.08 | cogwheel | lua> function foo(param1, ...) print(param1); print(select("#", ...)); local x, y, z = ...; print(x, y, z); print(...); print(select(2, ...)); end foo("hi", "bye", "whazza", "adios") |
| 18:15.08 | lua_bot | cogwheel: hi, 3, bye, whazza, adios, bye, whazza, adios, whazza, adios |
| 18:15.49 | cogwheel | notice how select doesn't just return the 2nd element, but all subsequent elements as well. makes for some pretty nifty constructs |
| 18:16.15 | |pez| | alestane: this is a simple black bikinithing. :P |
| 18:16.28 | |pez| | or, actually, it's darkbluish black. So nothing horribly exciting. |
| 18:16.49 | alestane | Actually, my wife now wants that set of shoes you loved so much. |
| 18:17.04 | |pez| | alestane: you happy about that? XD |
| 18:17.35 | alestane | Her wanting the shoes? Depends how much they are, but they're hawt, whatever the price. |
| 18:17.53 | |pez| | I bought new clothes a while ago btw XD - http://cuddlebutt.com/2008/07/11/hjemme-fra-feire-shopping-o/ |
| 18:18.11 | Fisker- | indeed Pneumatus |
| 18:18.16 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8557365706&postId=85561656122&sid=2003#0 <-i win btw |
| 18:18.19 | ReAn | http://pastebin.com/m30ebe3b6 <---- What am i doing wrong here? my frame won't move when i click it |
| 18:18.45 | Pneumatus | Danishdkofdk = worst name ever |
| 18:19.09 | ReAn | it's something stupid, i guarantee |
| 18:19.16 | Fisker- | what makes you say that Pneumatus? |
| 18:19.21 | |pez| | alestane: more shoes I can make your wife lust for? - http://cuddlebutt.com/2008/06/17/jeg-har-en-hemmelighet/ |
| 18:19.38 | amro | ReAn: tFrame:EnableMouse(true) |
| 18:19.41 | Pneumatus | well, i cant think of a worse name, so it must be! |
| 18:19.48 | ReAn | THANKS! |
| 18:19.54 | ReAn | i knew it was something stupid like that |
| 18:19.57 | Pneumatus | except possibly a nelf hunter called Legiolases |
| 18:20.15 | |pez| | I'd just call my nelf Lego |
| 18:20.23 | Pneumatus | Legoz |
| 18:20.27 | |pez| | and sing songs about building bricks. :P |
| 18:20.41 | sylvanaar | actually i have seen it before, hence /console reloadui |
| 18:20.45 | alestane | |pez|: I don't know about the clothes; she likes corsets, but I don't know if that style is quite hers. The first pair of shoes on that page, she might like. |
| 18:21.25 | |pez| | Oh, man, i tried on a corset while I was in the store where I bought those clothes... it was AWESOME! |
| 18:21.38 | Pneumatus | i was also hoping to find the cause of AceAddon-2.0 being borked as well, but it looks like that's gonna have to wait until my raid is over too |
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| 18:23.00 | |pez| | feh, silly boyfriend doesn't want to accompany me to the beachthing. :\ |
| 18:23.17 | Lunessa | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/07/28/funny-pictures-we-has-cheezburgerz/ |
| 18:24.13 | |pez| | now that is one freaky awesome cat |
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| 18:24.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Duman: the CS on GCD change was reverted... a long time ago |
| 18:25.00 | Lunessa | alestane: If your wife will wear those shoes, I must say I /envy you. :P |
| 18:25.24 | Lopeppeppy | I want those shoes. A lot. |
| 18:26.12 | |pez| | I need a new outfit, and those shoes, and I have a awesome outfit for WebMistress clientmeetings XD |
| 18:26.29 | Lunessa | Peppy... Mmmmm |
| 18:26.53 | Lopeppeppy | Mmmm indeed, Lunessa. All part of my plot to take over the world. |
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| 18:33.16 | alestane | What IS that, some kind of Abyssinian? |
| 18:34.05 | NightHawkTheSane | hah, http://www.overheardinnewyork.com/archives/015594.html |
| 18:34.12 | alestane | |pez|: s that like the Professor in 9 Chickweed Lane who wears leopard-print undergarments for trustee meetings as an assertiveness booster? |
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| 18:35.45 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: O. M. G. |
| 18:35.52 | Lunessa | Kill me now. |
| 18:36.16 | Lunessa | alestane: I suspect the image of the cat has been seriously photoshopped. |
| 18:37.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Sweet |
| 18:37.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Beta mounts have been fixed |
| 18:38.35 | Pneumatus | after i spent all morning (well, about 20 mins) running around getting new mounts :< |
| 18:38.38 | |pez| | alestane: 9 Chickweed lane? :P |
| 18:39.00 | |pez| | what new mounts is WotLK getting? |
| 18:39.11 | Pneumatus | none, they are just fixing the ones people had already |
| 18:39.26 | |pez| | Oh |
| 18:39.28 | |pez| | boring. :\ |
| 18:39.42 | Pneumatus | in the last build they made them learnable, but forgot to set the flag to give them a charge |
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| 18:40.27 | alestane | Lunessa: I think I told you last time, that my wife is actually curious about getting one of those pairs or patent leather pointe shoes. |
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| 18:41.55 | alestane | |pez|: It's a comic strip: http://www.comics.com/comics/chickweed/ fairly well drawn. Unfortunately, only two weeks of archives are usually available, and there hasn't been anything recently about Juliette Burber and the trustees. |
| 18:42.45 | Pneumatus | keylogger |
| 18:43.09 | Thunder_Child | hmm...earthquacke just moved through here |
| 18:43.22 | Shirik | huh |
| 18:43.26 | Shirik | someone in guild just said that too |
| 18:43.33 | Thunder_Child | socal |
| 18:43.52 | Shirik | north of LA? |
| 18:43.59 | Thunder_Child | i'm in lA |
| 18:44.02 | Thunder_Child | LA* |
| 18:44.03 | Shirik | ah |
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| 18:44.50 | Pneumatus | i wish blizz would implement spirit tap firing off the killing blow from any party/raid member :> |
| 18:45.16 | Kraps | http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/7/23/ishmaibarmid128613512858682567.jpg |
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| 18:47.22 | Lunessa | alestane: I'm still /envious. ;) |
| 18:47.26 | Nom- | nite all... need some sleep :/ |
| 18:47.55 | alestane | Lunessa: suffering from a shortage of amorous women with fetishy tastes in your life? |
| 18:48.23 | Thunder_Child | wow, seems it was a 5.8mag |
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| 18:48.31 | Lunessa | Suffering from a shortage of amorous women in my life period. |
| 18:48.45 | kamdis | earthquake was a 5.8 |
| 18:48.49 | Thunder_Child | ya |
| 18:48.51 | Lunessa | Ok, off to teach mail-merge for the next 2 hours. |
| 18:48.53 | Thunder_Child | http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsus/Quakes/ci14383980.php |
| 18:49.06 | Lunessa | Hope all you CA folks are OK. :) |
| 18:49.17 | Thunder_Child | 29 miles ESE of us |
| 18:49.23 | kamdis | I instantly got about 4 IMs from guildmates in San Diego |
| 18:49.26 | kamdis | heh |
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| 18:51.05 | kamdis | and there's already a Beta forums post |
| 18:51.06 | kamdis | rofl |
| 18:51.13 | kamdis | the internet is an amazing thing |
| 18:52.11 | Thunder_Child | about the quake? |
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| 19:12.35 | Malgayne | I felt it in San Diego |
| 19:12.41 | Malgayne | I thought it was a little local earthquake |
| 19:12.48 | Malgayne | Turns out it was a big one 100 miles away >.< |
| 19:18.42 | cncfanatics | anyone know if ubrs door is lockpickable ? |
| 19:19.09 | Arrowmaster | its not |
| 19:19.10 | Nom- | it's not even a door |
| 19:19.22 | cncfanatics | god damn |
| 19:19.23 | Nom- | well it is, but it doesn't appear to be a door... it looks like a solid wall until you approach it |
| 19:19.25 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 19:19.26 | cncfanatics | ace of beasts is gonna be a pain to get |
| 19:19.31 | Lopeppeppy | Yup |
| 19:19.35 | ScytheBlade1 | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert |
| 19:19.42 | Arrowmaster | cncfanatics: the gems are 100% drop rate now |
| 19:19.57 | Arrowmaster | you can solo the bosses for the key |
| 19:20.01 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 19:20.02 | cncfanatics | cool |
| 19:20.37 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster: how to start the key quest again ? |
| 19:20.48 | Arrowmaster | lbrs |
| 19:20.59 | Arrowmaster | the guy hiding up on that ledge |
| 19:22.15 | cncfanatics | details ? :p |
| 19:22.21 | Arrowmaster | umm |
| 19:22.26 | Arrowmaster | ok you go into brs |
| 19:22.43 | Arrowmaster | first room go right to head into lbrs |
| 19:22.46 | Arrowmaster | 1 group there |
| 19:22.47 | Lopeppeppy | Go into LBRS, hug the left wall, look up and behind you for a half-stealthed retarded NPC. |
| 19:22.50 | Arrowmaster | turn left |
| 19:22.59 | Arrowmaster | huge that wall |
| 19:23.12 | cncfanatics | friendly npc ? |
| 19:23.12 | cncfanatics | k |
| 19:23.17 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 19:23.21 | Arrowmaster | hes red atfirst |
| 19:23.25 | Arrowmaster | but hes kneeling down |
| 19:23.46 | Arrowmaster | you have to go up a sloped wall to get to him |
| 19:25.04 | Arrowmaster | when you come out of the doorway and have ogres directly on your right across a large gap |
| 19:25.12 | Arrowmaster | you should be able to see him on the left up high |
| 19:25.16 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 19:25.17 | cncfanatics | I do wonder |
| 19:25.24 | cncfanatics | why didn't blizz nerf the trink to oblivion when tbc hit ? |
| 19:25.32 | cncfanatics | its the only one they didn't change to a static effect instead of % |
| 19:25.50 | Arrowmaster | because it wasnt good until they buffed the fuck out of spirit |
| 19:26.03 | cncfanatics | true |
| 19:26.43 | cncfanatics | I hope they leave it as is for wotlk |
| 19:26.46 | cncfanatics | but it'll prolly get nerfed |
| 19:34.00 | |pez| | Oh man, why have I not gone swimming in this water before. |
| 19:34.43 | |pez| | wonderfully refreshing |
| 19:35.19 | Thunder_Child | your're on IRC while swimming? |
| 19:35.39 | |pez| | Werll, no |
| 19:35.51 | Thunder_Child | LIES! |
| 19:35.52 | |pez| | this water = water that's like... 100m away from my appartment. |
| 19:36.19 | Thunder_Child | ah |
| 19:36.27 | Esamynn | cncfanatics: which trinket? |
| 19:36.35 | Thunder_Child | wtb working worls derver |
| 19:36.39 | Thunder_Child | world* |
| 19:36.42 | Thunder_Child | server* |
| 19:36.46 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Thunder_Child |
| 19:36.47 | purl | Thunder_Child: FAIL! |
| 19:36.54 | Thunder_Child | ha, beat you to it |
| 19:36.58 | Esamynn | ROFL |
| 19:37.02 | |pez| | aww, can't you be failed twice? |
| 19:37.11 | Thunder_Child | purl has a repeat limiter |
| 19:37.25 | Esamynn | ~botsnack |
| 19:37.25 | purl | :), Esamynn |
| 19:37.28 | Thunder_Child | 6 second minimum or something |
| 19:37.30 | Lopeppeppy | purl is too smart to spam |
| 19:38.14 | |pez| | there should be an exception on fail |
| 19:38.19 | |pez| | and just upgrade the fail level. |
| 19:38.29 | Esamynn | haha |
| 19:38.46 | Thunder_Child | ~fail |pez| |
| 19:38.47 | purl | |pez|: FAIL! |
| 19:38.56 | Esamynn | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 19:38.56 | purl | puts on a hockey mask and jumps out at Thunder_Child |
| 19:39.08 | Thunder_Child | ~swat Esamynn |
| 19:39.09 | purl | ACTION swats Esamynn with a Esamynn swatter |
| 19:39.24 | Esamynn | ~cheeseslap Thunder_Child |
| 19:39.24 | purl | ACTION slaps Thunder_Child around with a wheel of swiss |
| 19:39.32 | Thunder_Child | ~whalekiss Esamynn |
| 19:39.33 | purl | ACTION makes hugh the formerly male whale give Esamynn a kiss |
| 19:39.48 | Esamynn | ~whaleslap Thunder_Child |
| 19:39.49 | purl | ACTION beats Thunder_Child upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 19:39.58 | Thunder_Child | ~whaleparry Esamynn |
| 19:39.58 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Esamynn's attacks. |
| 19:40.13 | Esamynn | ~whalenuke Thunder_Child |
| 19:40.14 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Thunder_Child with his mind powers. |
| 19:40.20 | Thunder_Child | ~whaleshield |
| 19:40.21 | purl | ACTION summons a rather dense leaden whale named Billy Bob to shield thunder_child from the blast. |
| 19:40.27 | |pez| | ... |
| 19:40.34 | Esamynn | ~bzfrag Thunder_Child |
| 19:40.35 | purl | ACTION fries Thunder_Child with a laser |
| 19:40.41 | Thunder_Child | ~dodge Esamynn |
| 19:40.51 | Thunder_Child | bah, Esamynn wins |
| 19:41.10 | Esamynn | ~botsnack |
| 19:41.10 | purl | aw, gee, Esamynn |
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| 19:50.20 | Thunder_Child | ~dodge Esamynn |
| 19:50.20 | purl | at the last second thunder_child dodges out of the way of Esamynn's malicious and unprovoked attack. |
| 19:50.26 | Thunder_Child | there we go |
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| 19:55.32 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1 cogwheel, either of you 2 able to stay on the server? |
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| 19:58.58 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, who has the ability to make guild calendar events? |
| 19:59.59 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: heh, beat me to it |
| 20:00.29 | kd3 | the hell? directv blizzcon coverage as a ppv event? |
| 20:00.43 | cogwheel | kd3: in HD |
| 20:00.54 | cogwheel | :P |
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| 20:02.34 | Thunder_Child | whats the command line to reload ui? |
| 20:02.40 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:02.43 | Thunder_Child | ty |
| 20:07.03 | kd3 | gah, what's up with northrend? |
| 20:07.16 | kd3 | ooh, new glue screen for DKs |
| 20:07.42 | ScytheBlade1 | yup |
| 20:09.17 | alestane | Yeah, I was liking that. |
| 20:09.41 | Kraps | who do i contact about changing my contact name? |
| 20:10.13 | ScytheBlade1 | contact name? |
| 20:10.16 | Pneumatus | nrg, Coldarra realm is _still_ down |
| 20:10.26 | Pneumatus | another sign blizzard hates EU :< |
| 20:10.35 | Kraps | yeah, in contact info |
| 20:10.45 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't think anyone here has any idea what you're talking about |
| 20:10.54 | Kraps | gah |
| 20:11.02 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: I think everyone |
| 20:11.50 | Kraps | Contact Information: |
| 20:11.52 | Kraps | name |
| 20:11.54 | kd3 | so I'm blind... anyone know how to get out of ebon hold? |
| 20:11.54 | Kraps | address |
| 20:11.56 | Kraps | city |
| 20:11.58 | Kraps | state |
| 20:11.59 | Kraps | zip |
| 20:12.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes, no kidding |
| 20:12.01 | Kraps | right? |
| 20:12.07 | ScytheBlade1 | And that applies to every website and every THING anywhere |
| 20:12.08 | Lopeppeppy | Contact information for what, Kraps? Your swiss bank account? |
| 20:12.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Exactly |
| 20:12.15 | Kraps | geez |
| 20:12.35 | Kraps | this is WOWuidev, right? |
| 20:12.42 | Lopeppeppy | we're not trying to be difficult, we just don't know what you're specificially talking about. |
| 20:12.56 | ScytheBlade1 | This is also generally considered a social channel with a technical orientation. |
| 20:13.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Billing. |
| 20:13.41 | Fisker- | kd3 |
| 20:13.51 | Fisker- | can you help me make the taste of cardboard more appealing? |
| 20:14.04 | kd3 | boil it down, add some sugar? |
| 20:14.15 | Fisker- | my hero |
| 20:15.16 | ReAn | lua> arr = {}; arr[0] = true; arr[1] = true; arr[2] = true; print #arr; |
| 20:15.17 | lua_bot | ReAn: luabot:1: '=' expected near '#' |
| 20:15.25 | ReAn | hrm |
| 20:15.30 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: the Calendar event creation priv was there in the previous build, so I think I just gave it to all the non-initiate ranks so people could play with it |
| 20:15.32 | Kraps | oh cool, an 800 number |
| 20:16.14 | Atriace | Kraps, are you referring to your Blizzard account? |
| 20:16.22 | Kraps | yes |
| 20:16.25 | Atriace | It's online |
| 20:16.37 | Atriace | Go to worldofwarcraft.com and login from the panel on the left |
| 20:16.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Atriace: not all of that can be changed online |
| 20:16.55 | Atriace | You can change your contact info there, but you cannot change your name or email address (IIRC) |
| 20:16.58 | Kraps | i know, just you cant chang your name |
| 20:17.11 | Kraps | exactly |
| 20:17.13 | Atriace | You can't change that anywhere else. |
| 20:17.19 | Atriace | Blizzard doesn't allow it. |
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| 20:17.32 | Daede | hi |
| 20:17.38 | Atriace | hihi |
| 20:17.40 | Esamynn | hai 2 u |
| 20:17.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Esamynn: I can't create an event... but if that's permissions or "other" I couldn't tell you :) |
| 20:17.43 | Kraps | its not me real name :/ |
| 20:17.54 | Kraps | *my |
| 20:17.55 | Esamynn | ScytheBlade1: I'll try to get on to check tonight |
| 20:17.57 | Atriace | Too bad. |
| 20:18.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Kraps: well then, that's a serious problem if you ever get compromised. |
| 20:18.13 | Kraps | gah |
| 20:18.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Esamynn: I've got that dirty "Clicker" rank >_> |
| 20:18.26 | Esamynn | =D |
| 20:18.29 | Atriace | I'd sell the account back to the guy who gave it to you, Kraps. |
| 20:18.31 | Esamynn | ScytheBlade1: /roll 1 3 :P |
| 20:18.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Kraps: in any case, to see if they'd even allow you to given the circumstances, you'd need to call billing |
| 20:18.38 | Esamynn | I guess you have bad luck ;) |
| 20:18.43 | ScytheBlade1 | :( |
| 20:18.48 | Daede | What's a good online resource for ace2/3 library/command/function references? the information ive found on their site has been kinda lacking.. or is that as good as it's gonna get for me and i just need to wing it? |
| 20:18.55 | ScytheBlade1 | #wowace |
| 20:19.02 | Daede | u rock :) |
| 20:19.09 | Daede | ~emulate Daede |
| 20:19.09 | purl | ACTION farted.. |
| 20:19.13 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 20:19.13 | Daede | purl say excuse me |
| 20:19.14 | purl | excuse me |
| 20:19.17 | Daede | ~botsnack |
| 20:19.17 | purl | Daede: :) |
| 20:19.21 | Daede | l8r ppl |
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| 20:19.31 | Kraps | lol i did not buy that account, or get it from anywhere |
| 20:19.36 | laeg_ | female night elves have a bitchy laugh |
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| 20:19.40 | Esamynn | ScytheBlade1: maybe I should take guild bank donations for a re-roll on your rank? ;) |
| 20:19.43 | Esamynn | 1000g per? :) |
| 20:19.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Kraps: blizzard doesn't know that. Check out the name on the account. |
| 20:20.08 | Kraps | Check out the name?... |
| 20:20.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Esamynn: hey now I deposited a good 40 Destruction Potions and once I get my bank moved over, I'll have at least 1,000 super mana pots to share ;) |
| 20:20.18 | Esamynn | laeg_: not as bitchy as BE females |
| 20:20.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Kraps: on your account. It isn't your name, how do they know it's your account? (That's why they don't allow you to change it.) |
| 20:20.34 | Esamynn | ScytheBlade1: I suppose that's worth a re roll :) |
| 20:20.43 | Esamynn | remind me next time you see me on ;) |
| 20:20.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Esamynn: it's hopeless, I'll get clicker again anyway |
| 20:20.57 | Esamynn | lol |
| 20:21.06 | Kraps | damn |
| 20:21.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Kraps: that's also why you have to call billing to even see if there is any possibility to change it, but all of the rules and policies say "uh, no. not happening. ever." |
| 20:21.40 | ScytheBlade1 | "Good luck, you'll need it." |
| 20:21.49 | Kraps | O_o |
| 20:21.51 | Atriace | Sad but true. |
| 20:25.39 | Kraps | hot teenage sex on right now |
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| 20:25.59 | Kraps | i should shut up more |
| 20:26.09 | Kraps | but 21 is a good movie |
| 20:26.15 | MusicMan | yea it is |
| 20:26.22 | MusicMan | >.> |
| 20:26.28 | alestane | BlizzCon tickets sale date announced. |
| 20:26.43 | cogwheel | oldnews :P |
| 20:27.39 | Lopeppeppy | Not to me! When is it? |
| 20:27.46 | alestane | 8/11 |
| 20:27.52 | Fisker- | cogwheel OLD |
| 20:27.57 | Lopeppeppy | .... am I back from vaction then? |
| 20:28.34 | Lopeppeppy | Yes I am, just barely. |
| 20:29.57 | alestane | Unfortunatey, While I have money aside from the ticket, it' looks very unlikely ATM that I'll have the money to get out there. |
| 20:30.16 | Lopeppeppy | Awww! *huggle* I wish we could drive it, but I'm not that insane. |
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| 20:31.00 | malreth | hot teenage sex? |
| 20:32.24 | cogwheel | ~poke malreth |
| 20:32.25 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind malreth, pokes malreth repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 20:32.34 | Kraps | now theres teenage angst |
| 20:33.23 | malreth | i'm over 30... there is no chance of teenage angst for me. ever. |
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| 20:33.55 | Thunder_Child | uhhh.... |
| 20:35.14 | Thunder_Child | "Back by popular demand, and now with 50% more hall space for your convention- going enjoyment" i dont remember there being enough more space for 50% more, though i do remeber they didnt really fill up the space they had last year |
| 20:37.09 | Thunder_Child | "Blizzard Entertainment, Inc. (www.blizzard.com), a division of Vivendi Games" huh...no mention of activision |
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| 20:37.26 | nevcairiel | old probably =P |
| 20:37.48 | zenzelezz | isn't Vivendi also just a part of Activision? |
| 20:38.00 | Thunder_Child | merger i think, not butout |
| 20:38.04 | Thunder_Child | buyout* |
| 20:38.16 | |pez| | okok, say it with me people "awwwwww" - http://m0thyyku.deviantart.com/art/the-cat-with-boots-93131408 |
| 20:38.22 | Thunder_Child | sicne it is now activision blizzard |
| 20:38.26 | Thunder_Child | since* |
| 20:38.51 | Fisker- | Technically Vivendi has the majority stock |
| 20:38.57 | Fisker- | so they own the new company |
| 20:39.10 | nevcairiel | they still dont use their name anymore |
| 20:39.16 | nevcairiel | because they have a bad reputation =P |
| 20:39.28 | Thunder_Child | bad< or just not much of one? |
| 20:39.34 | Thunder_Child | s/</?/ |
| 20:39.41 | Fisker- | bad |
| 20:39.45 | Diao | vivendi is a parent company |
| 20:39.55 | nevcairiel | Activision-Blizzard is the name that sells |
| 20:39.55 | Fisker- | it really has some pretty bad stories behind some of it's games |
| 20:39.58 | Diao | they just do the corporate stuff |
| 20:39.59 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 20:40.03 | nevcairiel | even though blizzard itself has no part in it |
| 20:40.53 | Fisker- | Especially Half-Life and Tribes were treated like shit by VUG |
| 20:41.04 | Fisker- | good thing neither of them have anything to do with them anymore |
| 20:41.14 | nevcairiel | yeah back in the half-life days Vivendi did some bad shit |
| 20:41.16 | Diao | valve was owned by vug? |
| 20:41.38 | Fisker- | Sierra was the Half-Life distributor |
| 20:41.48 | Fisker- | Vivendi bought Sierra and thus became the new publisher |
| 20:41.51 | Diao | oh |
| 20:42.21 | nevcairiel | but valve split from that ;) |
| 20:42.41 | Fisker- | Vivendi tried to take over the IP because they were too incompetent to create a "proper" publishing contract |
| 20:43.02 | Fisker- | They didn't secure publishing with cyber cafés and online distribution |
| 20:43.11 | Fisker- | And they sued when Valve wanted to launch Steam |
| 20:44.25 | nevcairiel | You know whats funny, my half-life 2 box still carrys a Sierra logo |
| 20:44.40 | |pez| | Oh, ffs. boyfriend is being stupid. |
| 20:45.06 | Shirik | ~dict buzzkill |
| 20:45.17 | |pez| | he's publishing convos we have on his blog. >__> |
| 20:45.22 | |pez| | or random things I say and do. |
| 20:45.43 | Fisker- | i just want to level to level 76 |
| 20:45.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Do we have a working version of DevTools for beta anywhere? |
| 20:46.01 | Vilkku | anyone here with powers to see what realm I set on WoWInterface? |
| 20:46.10 | nevcairiel | I thought the version on wowi was actually working ScytheBlade1 |
| 20:46.19 | ScytheBlade1 | nevcairiel: I'll give it a shot then, thanks |
| 20:46.46 | nevcairiel | If they didnt reverse the slash-handler thing in yesterdays push, you'll need to change that |
| 20:46.58 | Vilkku | also, key-giveaway related question, of the names submitted, will blizzard take a look and pick, randomly choose or give everyone a key (or do we simply have no idea)? =D |
| 20:47.11 | nevcairiel | Vilkku: everyone |
| 20:47.13 | Thunder_Child | give everyone a key |
| 20:47.21 | Vilkku | ooh |
| 20:47.25 | Vilkku | I'll get a key then :D |
| 20:52.09 | ZealotOnAStick | Vilkku: WoWI/CF do their own filtering before the names are submitted. |
| 20:52.18 | ZealotOnAStick | and it's paced, so it's not a ton at once. |
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| 20:52.56 | Vilkku | ZealotOnAStick: on WoWInterface, Cairenn posted that "Okay guys, I've sent in the first batch of names. If your ticket is: US 000001 - 000475 or EU 000013 - 000474, your information has been sent to Blizzard." My ticket was 00300. Seems simple enough to me =P |
| 20:53.38 | Vilkku | Source: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=96876&postcount=63 |
| 20:53.59 | Vilkku | 000300* ticket ofc |
| 20:54.00 | Cairenn | Vilkku: you signed up for EU |
| 20:54.06 | Vilkku | Cairenn: great |
| 20:54.36 | Iriel | ScytheBlade1: I didn't post a new one because it works when they flip the args back |
| 20:54.53 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, they didnt do it with the last patch? |
| 20:54.55 | Cairenn | and, if you meet our rules - you get a key. |
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| 20:55.03 | ZealotOnAStick | now, that said . . . I want my beta key gorrammit! |
| 20:55.16 | Cairenn | heh |
| 20:55.19 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: I'm not sure I didn't patch up until very late, let me look.... |
| 20:55.36 | ZealotOnAStick | Vilkku/Cairenn: I hadn't read the key list thing from WoWI. |
| 20:55.43 | Fisker- | hey Cairenn i signed up with "*" can you change one or more records for me? |
| 20:55.45 | Fisker- | >:D |
| 20:55.51 | Cairenn | lol |
| 20:56.01 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: Yesterday's patch is still (self, msg) |
| 20:56.32 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: I think there's a fairly hefty review/release pipeline in blizzard, so stuff emerges slowly |
| 20:57.52 | Kraps | lol cool main screen message |
| 20:57.53 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, poke em to put i in the hotfix today |
| 20:58.14 | Thunder_Child | it* |
| 20:58.22 | Yssaril | so with blizzard adding a calendar function do can we actually querry the server for its date now? |
| 20:58.41 | Esamynn | Iriel: sometimes I think it's a good thing they QA beta releases to much, other times it annoys me because I just want them to get the promised changes out, it's just beta after all! ;) |
| 20:58.53 | Esamynn | s/to much/so much/ |
| 21:01.22 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: bring my EU realm back online already |
| 21:01.27 | Fisker- | no u |
| 21:01.36 | Fisker- | I WOULD'VE BEEN LEVEL 77 |
| 21:01.46 | Fisker- | whinepost go |
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| 21:03.38 | ZealotOnAStick | a Fisker whinepost? |
| 21:03.51 | ZealotOnAStick | don't go warping universal constants of space-time now. |
| 21:04.05 | Thunder_Child | oh...they have 2 pve servers up now |
| 21:05.14 | ScytheBlade1 | haha... |
| 21:05.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I think I just "signed" an e-mail with ~~~~ |
| 21:05.28 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 21:06.06 | Thunder_Child | and your response will be: |
| 21:06.07 | Thunder_Child | ~~~~ |
| 21:06.08 | purl | ARGH!!! STOP IT thunder_child!!! |
| 21:06.26 | Thunder_Child | s/thunder_child/ScytheBlade1/ |
| 21:07.36 | ScytheBlade1 | ... and that's depressing, I'm not seeing git in the CentOS repo :/ |
| 21:08.39 | Vangual | ScytheBlade1: dag/rf has it, not sure how recent tho |
| 21:09.40 | ScytheBlade1 | ah, it's in the epel |
| 21:10.43 | amro | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fffjLWRwybQ wins |
| 21:15.30 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: up! |
| 21:16.37 | malreth | !api GetTalentTabInfo |
| 21:16.37 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'GetTalentTabInfo' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetTalentTabInfo |
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| 21:26.45 | Iriel | <Total random aside> Hm, not counting my G15 keyboard or the display on my phone or camera, I figure I've got 8.8 million pixels of displays on and open right now (spread across 2 desktop computers and a laptop mind you) |
| 21:27.19 | MentalPower | lol |
| 21:27.21 | MentalPower | interesting tidbit :) |
| 21:29.07 | Thunder_Child | 5 monitors @ 1680x1050 Iriel? |
| 21:29.12 | bleeter | hahha starbucks is closing shops over here 'coz we're too cultured for them! =)) |
| 21:29.20 | Lunessa | Iriel: Mmmm... bask in the radiation. Soon you will be bald like me... from exposure! |
| 21:29.25 | bleeter | (apols to any employee who lost their job, not lol'ing at you) |
| 21:29.42 | Thunder_Child | ywa Lunessa, if he keeps exposing himself like you he will be bald...and in jail |
| 21:29.49 | Thunder_Child | s/ywa/yes/ |
| 21:30.32 | Thunder_Child | dunno how /you/ manage to stay out of jail |
| 21:31.06 | Lunessa | hutzpah. |
| 21:31.14 | Thunder_Child | chutzpah* |
| 21:31.22 | Lunessa | that too. |
| 21:31.47 | Thunder_Child | "if your throat doesnt hurt after saying it, you are not doing it right |
| 21:31.49 | Thunder_Child | " |
| 21:32.22 | alestane | It's just a palatal ch. |
| 21:32.35 | Thunder_Child | gutteral |
| 21:32.50 | malreth | hey hey... none of that linguistics talk 'round here |
| 21:33.31 | Thunder_Child | why? out of you league? |
| 21:33.34 | Thunder_Child | your* |
| 21:33.42 | malreth | i minored in linguistics |
| 21:34.45 | Thunder_Child | like i said.... |
| 21:36.06 | Shirik | What's wrong with this statement? |
| 21:36.06 | Shirik | [#] 17:34:45 [1] <70:Thairon>: can somoen at RFC plz rez me |
| 21:36.29 | malreth | maybe... |
| 21:36.30 | Thunder_Child | lol |
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| 21:36.53 | malreth | yeah, i just don't know what to say to that |
| 21:36.59 | Thunder_Child | why a 70 needs help at RFC |
| 21:37.09 | Shirik | ^ |
| 21:37.20 | malreth | maybe he tripped |
| 21:37.42 | cogwheel | warlock? |
| 21:37.48 | Shirik | druid |
| 21:38.01 | Thunder_Child | just wow |
| 21:42.05 | Fisker- | halp Shirik |
| 21:42.08 | Fisker- | i'm stuck in sholozaar |
| 21:42.39 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: 3 x 1920 x 1200, 1 x 1600 x 1200 |
| 21:42.53 | Fisker- | sholazar that is |
| 21:43.15 | Iriel | bleeter: the starbucks problems here have largely been oversaturation and cannibalization |
| 21:44.03 | Iriel | i.e. 2 starbucks across the street from one another unsurprisingly doesn't get 2 x the customers of one on one side of the street |
| 21:44.32 | Shirik | lol |
| 21:44.41 | malreth | a new locally owned coffee shop just opened up here on campus, thankfully |
| 21:44.47 | Shirik | I would actually like to see some statistics on whether or not business is improved by putting one across the street from the other |
| 21:47.14 | bleeter | Iriel: their problem here was typified by their opening in my home town. opened practically next door to 6 other cafes. all of who have been around for 10+ years. it's not easy to break that kinda loyalty. |
| 21:48.15 | malreth | seems like the most logical place to open a coffee shop |
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| 21:49.07 | malreth | clearly, your town has a cafe district |
| 21:49.14 | bleeter | nah, the marketplace had evened out ages ago, each shop already had their niche, etc. no room for any other competitors, even massive international chains. |
| 21:49.44 | Shirik | honestly, McDonalds had a good strategy for that around us |
| 21:49.53 | Shirik | they opened up two mcdonalds right next to each other, then a third |
| 21:50.00 | bleeter | no, we just have lots of cafes. the post ww2 european immigration brought the culture over. you're looking at trying to fight 50+ years of established business/custom. |
| 21:50.03 | Shirik | because they found out burger king wanted to take a stake in the area |
| 21:50.16 | Shirik | something like that |
| 21:50.16 | Shirik | maybe wendys |
| 21:50.17 | Shirik | but someone |
| 21:51.25 | bleeter | we have that issue with cinemas, when a new one wanted to open in one regional centre, the major national chain built 5 mini-cineplexes around the state. |
| 21:51.48 | Shirik | lol |
| 21:52.07 | Thunder_Child | someone make me an addon that keeps my filter selections in the default guild panel from session to session |
| 21:52.17 | Shirik | and it'll really work for cinemas |
| 21:52.28 | Shirik | I mean, some people justify driving further to go to burger king over mcdonalds because they like it better |
| 21:52.37 | Shirik | you can't justify going to another movie theater, they don't have "better movies" |
| 21:53.09 | Iriel | I'm lazy - did anyone create an addon that just adds 'me and my group' to the combat log filter options? |
| 21:53.09 | malreth | i drive further to the highland 10 because they have DLPs |
| 21:53.11 | bleeter | they do kinda, like the capital. 3 cinemas. some of the smaller ones will only show at 1 or maybe 2, but not in the 'biggest' one |
| 21:53.35 | malreth | i drive further to the Alamo because they serve beer, pizza, and nachos right to your seat |
| 21:53.35 | bleeter | well, yeah. no digital projectors down where I am, so I cbf going anymore anyways |
| 21:54.28 | malreth | i drive even further to a specific Alamo theater because they actually do show "better movies" |
| 21:54.35 | Shirik | I've never seen a "small cinema" heh |
| 21:54.40 | Shirik | "mini-cineplex" |
| 21:54.55 | bleeter | 4 screens, iirc |
| 21:54.59 | Shirik | I think around the US, we're too addicted to movies to have "mini-cineplexes" |
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| 22:00.18 | ReAn | hey, anyone know if the "Class" return value of GetBattlefieldScore(...) is localized or not? |
| 22:00.56 | kd3 | rofl... "Remember this day, <name>, for it is the day that you will be thoroughly owned." |
| 22:01.27 | Thunder_Child | interesting, when did mana gems stop being "summoned" items? |
| 22:01.35 | kd3 | a build or two ago? |
| 22:01.48 | Thunder_Child | ah, i havent played in a while |
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| 22:06.25 | bleeter | kd3: I meant to ask you, is the patcher leaking like a sieve? or just the original installer? |
| 22:06.48 | bleeter | kd3: still haven't got a key yet, so haven't investigated... just curious on the offchance I do get a key, I'll take a look then ;) |
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| 22:07.46 | kd3 | if it has been, I haven't noticed... |
| 22:12.43 | ZealotOnAStick | http://mydeadsoul666.deviantart.com/art/Little-Furball-93169536 |
| 22:13.02 | ReAn | anyone know any good Debugging Ui-Mod / Library? |
| 22:13.17 | Iriel | ReAn: DevTools is pretty handy |
| 22:13.25 | ReAn | lemmie take a look |
| 22:14.11 | Thunder_Child | if Iriel does say so himself XD |
| 22:14.11 | ReAn | does /dump print formatted tables? |
| 22:14.18 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 22:14.24 | ReAn | awesome! |
| 22:14.31 | cogwheel | Iriel: we won't hold it against you if you s/handy/awesome/ |
| 22:15.01 | cogwheel | well... tekkub might |
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| 22:16.48 | Lunessa | I'll say it. DevTools is AWESOME Baby, yeah! |
| 22:17.09 | ReAn | man, i keep forgetting this isn't C++ |
| 22:17.23 | ReAn | i don't know how many times i get syntax errors from != or || or && |
| 22:17.58 | Kirov | ReAn - just wait till you start hitting |
| 22:17.58 | Kirov | foo = 0; |
| 22:17.58 | Kirov | if foo then |
| 22:17.58 | Kirov | ... wtf? |
| 22:18.21 | ReAn | you see |
| 22:18.30 | ReAn | i program more C# than C++ |
| 22:18.40 | ReAn | so it's programmed me to be more carefull around my booleans |
| 22:18.45 | Kirov | ReAn - hehe |
| 22:18.46 | ReAn | or rather |
| 22:18.58 | ReAn | i dont use 0 / 1 for false / true |
| 22:19.02 | ReAn | :D |
| 22:19.08 | Kirov | ReAn - I just try to remember Lua's numbers are floats, not ints. that helps |
| 22:19.17 | ReAn | yus |
| 22:19.22 | ReAn | i know :D |
| 22:19.25 | ReAn | however |
| 22:19.29 | ReAn | i believe you can go |
| 22:19.33 | ReAn | foo = nil; |
| 22:19.35 | ReAn | if foo then |
| 22:19.38 | Kirov | yes |
| 22:19.41 | cogwheel | also watch out for off-by-one errors |
| 22:19.50 | ReAn | off by one? |
| 22:19.55 | Kirov | tables start at 1 |
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| 22:19.57 | Iriel | doubles, not floats 8-) |
| 22:19.59 | cogwheel | lua arrays start at 1 |
| 22:20.00 | ReAn | ah yes |
| 22:20.03 | ReAn | well |
| 22:20.13 | ReAn | yes and no >_> i can define myArray[0] = asdasd |
| 22:20.14 | Kirov | Iriel - shush |
| 22:20.16 | ReAn | if i want |
| 22:20.17 | cogwheel | and most functions like math.random follow suit |
| 22:20.17 | ReAn | >_> |
| 22:20.38 | cogwheel | e.g. |
| 22:20.46 | cogwheel | lua> math.random(15) |
| 22:20.47 | lua_bot | cogwheel: 13 |
| 22:20.48 | Kirov | ReAn - t = {}; table.insert(t, 1) == t[1] = 1 |
| 22:20.51 | cogwheel | will always be 1-13 |
| 22:21.00 | cogwheel | s/3/5/ |
| 22:21.03 | Kirov | math.random(1) |
| 22:21.08 | Kirov | lua> math.random(1) |
| 22:21.08 | lua_bot | Kirov: 1 |
| 22:21.22 | cogwheel | lua> math.random(0) |
| 22:21.22 | lua_bot | cogwheel: luabot:1: bad argument #1 to 'random' (interval is empty) |
| 22:21.26 | Kirov | lua> math.random() |
| 22:21.27 | lua_bot | Kirov: 0.84018771715471 |
| 22:21.38 | cogwheel | lua> math.random(0, 1) |
| 22:21.38 | lua_bot | cogwheel: 1 |
| 22:21.42 | cogwheel | lua> math.random(0, 1) |
| 22:21.42 | lua_bot | cogwheel: 1 |
| 22:21.47 | Kirov | heh |
| 22:21.52 | cogwheel | hmm... wtb seeded random :P |
| 22:22.12 | Kaso | lua> t={[0]="a",[1]="b"}; for i,v in ipairs(t) do print("["..i.."] = "..v) end |
| 22:22.13 | lua_bot | Kaso: [1] = b |
| 22:22.15 | Kirov | We're experiencing some Rosencrants and Gildenstern are Dead situations here |
| 22:22.19 | Kaso | 1 index crew for life |
| 22:22.56 | Shirik | lua> t = {}; for x = 1,500000 do local k = math.random(0,1); t[k] = t[k]+1; end; pp(t) |
| 22:22.56 | lua_bot | Shirik: luabot:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on field '?' (a nil value) |
| 22:22.57 | Kaso | cogwheel, isnt each luabot request a seperate runtime, so without reseeding itll always be the same? |
| 22:22.58 | Kirov | custom iterators can go from anything to anything |
| 22:23.11 | Shirik | lua> t = {}; for x = 1,500000 do local k = math.random(0,1); t[k] = (t[k] or 0)+1; end; pp(t) |
| 22:23.12 | lua_bot | Shirik: { 250379, [0] = 249621 } (#1) |
| 22:23.14 | Shirik | lua> t = {}; for x = 1,500000 do local k = math.random(0,1); t[k] = (t[k] or 0)+1; end; pp(t) |
| 22:23.15 | lua_bot | Shirik: { 250379, [0] = 249621 } (#1) |
| 22:23.20 | Shirik | heh, you're right cogwheel :) |
| 22:23.26 | Kirov | !lua math.random(0,1) |
| 22:23.26 | batbot | Kirov: > 0 |
| 22:23.30 | Kirov | there |
| 22:23.42 | Shirik | --> t = {}; for x = 1,500000 do local k = math.random(0,1); t[k] = (t[k] or 0)+1; end; pp(t) |
| 22:23.42 | batbot | Shirik: @ [string "t = {}; for x = 1,500000 do local k = math...."]:1: attempt to call global 'pp' (a nil value) |
| 22:23.45 | Shirik | grr |
| 22:23.53 | Kirov | I think batbot is the same instance |
| 22:23.57 | Shirik | --> t = {}; for x = 1,500000 do local k = math.random(0,1); t[k] = (t[k] or 0)+1; end; print(t[0], " ", t[1]) |
| 22:23.58 | batbot | Shirik: 249679 250321 |
| 22:24.00 | Shirik | --> t = {}; for x = 1,500000 do local k = math.random(0,1); t[k] = (t[k] or 0)+1; end; print(t[0], " ", t[1]) |
| 22:24.01 | batbot | Shirik: 250491 249509 |
| 22:24.03 | Shirik | it is |
| 22:24.09 | Shirik | It never shuts down unless you force it to |
| 22:24.13 | Shirik | and when you force it to, you get things like |
| 22:24.30 | Shirik | --> function foo() local s, e = pcall(foo) if not s then print(e) end end foo() |
| 22:24.30 | batbot | Shirik: ead shirik |
| 22:24.35 | Shirik | :P |
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| 22:24.50 | cogwheel | ~poke extra tem |
| 22:24.51 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind extra tem, pokes extra tem repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 22:24.57 | Shirik | wow |
| 22:25.00 | Shirik | powerful poke |
| 22:25.13 | Tem | I bluescreened :( |
| 22:25.21 | Tem | first time ever since switching to vista |
| 22:25.29 | Thunder_Child | lucky person |
| 22:25.41 | Shirik | I can help you make it happen a second time if you want |
| 22:25.46 | Tem | (switched in jan 07 before the official release) |
| 22:25.54 | Thunder_Child | i has done it over 15 times |
| 22:25.57 | cogwheel | i got BSOD the first time I booted into vista during installation... |
| 22:26.00 | Shirik | but yeah, honestly, I've never had a blue screen on vista that I haven't forced |
| 22:26.18 | Shirik | My aunt had it once, but that was due to a failing hard drive |
| 22:26.33 | cogwheel | it doesn't like 4 DIMMs for some reason so i had to install with three, get a hotfix, and then put the fourth in |
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| 22:32.05 | Thunder_Child | i get IRQ errors all the time |
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| 22:35.03 | cogwheel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8557295882&sid=2000 |
| 22:36.24 | ReAn | lolwut |
| 22:36.40 | ScytheBlade1 | 0_0 |
| 22:37.20 | ReAn | looks like the male skin on the female body |
| 22:37.57 | ReAn | danmit, i get so used to typing /rl that when im not paying attention i type it because it's usually the "logical" next step |
| 22:38.32 | Ackis | <-- destroyed the job interview |
| 22:38.46 | Kalroth | Did you moon them? |
| 22:38.55 | Kalroth | Or was it the weed? I bet it was the weed. |
| 22:39.38 | Ackis | no u? |
| 22:39.47 | Ackis | no Murky :( |
| 22:40.04 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: told you. |
| 22:40.12 | cogwheel | ScytheBlade1: at least now i'm near the boat |
| 22:40.31 | Thunder_Child | hahaha, someone had just asked how the server was doing and i was just typing "hasent crashed in ~30+" then it crashed |
| 22:40.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Fair enough |
| 22:41.19 | ReAn | any class trainers in northrend? |
| 22:41.30 | ReAn | or same shit w/ having to go back to azeroth? |
| 22:41.43 | Thunder_Child | cogwheel, feel like doing the new instance? me and ScytheBlade1 want to go |
| 22:41.52 | cogwheel | Thunder_Child: i'm at work... |
| 22:42.24 | Thunder_Child | cogwheel, not atm |
| 22:42.34 | Thunder_Child | since we cant even get there w/o the server crashing |
| 22:44.07 | cogwheel | actually, i probably won't be able to do anything until next week... beta's already made me procrastinate on too many things >< |
| 22:44.39 | Thunder_Child | ok, i'll go bug guill for a tank then |
| 22:44.46 | Thunder_Child | ~fail cogwheel |
| 22:44.47 | purl | You suck at everything in life, cogwheel. I hate you because you fail. |
| 22:45.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: if he's going to tank it, I'd be nice if I were you :P |
| 22:45.25 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, he just said he couldnt do it |
| 22:45.30 | Thunder_Child | fo a week or so |
| 22:45.32 | Thunder_Child | for* |
| 22:45.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, this week |
| 22:45.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Burther I said "if" :P |
| 22:45.43 | ScytheBlade1 | *Further |
| 22:46.04 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, besides, that IS my being nice |
| 22:46.13 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 22:46.38 | Thunder_Child | ~cry cogwheel |
| 22:46.49 | Thunder_Child | what...really purl? |
| 22:47.02 | Thunder_Child | again nothing.... |
| 22:47.29 | wereHamster | ~botsnack |
| 22:47.29 | purl | wereHamster: aw, gee |
| 22:47.55 | wereHamster | see, you need to give her a snack, otherwise she won't listen to you |
| 22:47.56 | Thunder_Child | ~cry cogwheel |
| 22:47.57 | purl | You want to cry cogwheel? I'll give you something to cry about. |
| 22:48.54 | cogwheel | purl: you already did |
| 22:48.55 | cogwheel | :'( |
| 22:49.06 | Gnarfoz | Ackis: what' you do? ^^ |
| 22:49.34 | cogwheel | Gnarfoz: for some reason he seems to think poking me will get him a murky... |
| 22:49.37 | Ackis | what'd I do? |
| 22:49.39 | Ackis | haha |
| 22:49.44 | Ackis | I was hoping one would fall from the sky |
| 22:49.46 | Ackis | :D |
| 22:49.53 | Gnarfoz | in regards to your job interview, I meant ;) |
| 22:49.57 | Ackis | I destroyed it |
| 22:50.05 | Ackis | talked for about an hour with them |
| 22:50.07 | Ackis | talked a lot |
| 22:50.08 | cogwheel | ~dict destroy |
| 22:50.17 | Ackis | went pretty well... probably a 5k a year raise only though |
| 22:50.38 | Ackis | I wonder if they have a murky? :D |
| 22:51.35 | cogwheel | the only way to get a murky is to travel back in time and go to blizzcon '05... or ebay, but i haven't seen any there for at least a year |
| 22:52.10 | Thunder_Child | 05? |
| 22:52.35 | Thunder_Child | oh..is this a pet? |
| 22:52.55 | bleeter | murloc pet, yeah |
| 22:53.07 | Thunder_Child | thought it was the suit, nvm then |
| 22:53.29 | Ackis | I have the suit, it'd be better if I could cast while wearing it, but it's still fun |
| 22:53.39 | Ackis | only murloc suit in KJ kill shot? |
| 22:53.55 | Ackis | http://www.teamice.org/images/news/2008.July.01/KJSMALL.jpg |
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| 22:54.40 | Kirov | I turn myself in to a blood elf in every kill shot for my guild. heh |
| 22:54.52 | Ackis | I turned myself into an ogre for m'uru :D |
| 22:55.11 | Ackis | http://www.teamice.org/images/news/2008.May.27/muru_sm.jpg |
| 22:55.28 | Thunder_Child | nevcairiel, i'd like to thank you for getting me addicted to that damn browser game... |
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| 23:01.13 | ZealotOnAStick | which browser game? |
| 23:02.37 | cogwheel | http://ikariam.com i assume? |
| 23:02.37 | Thunder_Child | http://www.ikariam.com/index.php |
| 23:02.41 | Cairenn | heh |
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| 23:03.48 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, whens the "wowi @ blizzcon" post going up? |
| 23:03.54 | ZealotOnAStick | lots of people I know play that. |
| 23:03.58 | ZealotOnAStick | I've resisted thus far. |
| 23:04.00 | Dashkal | following the giveaway discussion thread... is it bad that I hunted down a web brainfuck interp just to see what that program did? |
| 23:04.13 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: which wowi@blizzcon post? |
| 23:04.26 | ZealotOnAStick | Dashkal: huh? |
| 23:04.32 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, like the one last year for activities |
| 23:04.37 | Cairenn | oh |
| 23:04.40 | Cairenn | ummm, yeah |
| 23:04.43 | cogwheel | Dashkal: that's not bad at all |
| 23:05.04 | ReAn | Cairenn == Cairenn from WoWI ? |
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| 23:05.13 | bleeter | nah |
| 23:05.13 | Cairenn | yes |
| 23:05.14 | Malgayne | That is correct. :) |
| 23:05.16 | Thunder_Child | this is the wowi channel |
| 23:05.17 | ReAn | <3 |
| 23:05.17 | cogwheel | Dashkal: this is worse imo http://home.comcast.net/~m_orlando/bfsig.html (NSFW if you have people reading over your shoulders) |
| 23:05.19 | Thunder_Child | ish |
| 23:05.19 | bleeter | Cairenn lies |
| 23:05.22 | Dashkal | I should have guessed what the output was |
| 23:05.24 | bleeter | so does Malgayne and Thunder_Child |
| 23:05.32 | Malgayne | I always lie |
| 23:05.39 | Malgayne | FIGURE THAT ONE OUT |
| 23:06.25 | ReAn | <Thunder_Child> this is the wowi channel <--- just assumed it was a generic wow development chan |
| 23:06.25 | bleeter | Cairenn, here on irc, is way cooler than wowi fake Cairenn |
| 23:06.25 | Dashkal | cogwheel: very nice :D |
| 23:06.25 | Cairenn | :) |
| 23:06.25 | Thunder_Child | well it WAS called wowi-lounge |
| 23:06.25 | Thunder_Child | dunno why the name change |
| 23:06.25 | cogwheel | they wanted to be site-agnostic |
| 23:06.25 | Cairenn | because certain people decided that the name wasn't "inclusive" enough |
| 23:06.42 | bleeter | a not totally unreasonable observation, if I may be so bold as to state |
| 23:06.45 | Xuerian | Thunder_Child: Ew, looks like a game I'd get addicted to too |
| 23:07.02 | Cairenn | except the channel was never site specific |
| 23:07.04 | ZealotOnAStick | Cairenn: . . . who got all uppity about it? |
| 23:07.09 | Thunder_Child | inclusive for whom? it was always for woi people |
| 23:07.13 | Thunder_Child | wowi* |
| 23:07.15 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: no |
| 23:07.25 | Cairenn | it's always been site-agnostic |
| 23:07.27 | bleeter | Cairenn: aye, but perceptions are... etc. |
| 23:07.35 | Cairenn | bleeter: yeah, I know |
| 23:07.59 | bleeter | hell, gaim prolly had more legal right to the whole 'aim' part... but still changed |
| 23:08.02 | Cairenn | just pissed me off that certain people basically brow beat me into changing the channel name, then never held up their side of things |
| 23:08.11 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, oh...never seemed like that to me....i mean i knew it was open to everyone but i didnt know it was supposed to be what it is called now |
| 23:09.06 | Cairenn | anyway, it's irrelevant |
| 23:09.09 | bleeter | a Cairenn by any other name would ... aw heck, just contradicted my whole 'fake' bs above :( |
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| 23:09.19 | cogwheel | So... Mazzle... |
| 23:09.24 | *** kick/#WoWUIDev [cogwheel!n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn (Cairenn) |
| 23:09.29 | Thunder_Child | lolz |
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| 23:09.41 | cogwheel | rofl |
| 23:09.53 | bleeter | nevah sore taht comin |
| 23:09.56 | Thunder_Child | cogwheel, what is morlando? |
| 23:09.56 | Dashkal | cogwheel: aww, it didn't work. echo "<lots of BF>" | bf didn't give me the output |
| 23:10.04 | Cairenn | his last name? |
| 23:10.08 | cogwheel | Thunder_Child: flastname |
| 23:10.20 | Thunder_Child | oh |
| 23:11.03 | cogwheel | Dashkal: link me the code? |
| 23:11.17 | cogwheel | some BF implementations deal with certain things differently |
| 23:11.22 | Dashkal | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=95972&postcount=73 |
| 23:11.40 | cogwheel | oh it reads files |
| 23:11.49 | cogwheel | doesn't use stdin |
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| 23:12.49 | Dashkal | aha! |
| 23:13.15 | Dashkal | yeah, I see it right near the end of the sig now. |
| 23:16.04 | ZealotOnAStick | so, I just wiki'd Brainfuck. |
| 23:16.11 | ZealotOnAStick | Someone was REAAALLY bored. |
| 23:16.23 | Thunder_Child | ~wiki brainfuck |
| 23:16.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Sixen: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8557245987&sid=2000 |
| 23:17.39 | Sixen | *looks* |
| 23:18.10 | Sixen | Oh dude! |
| 23:18.12 | Sixen | That's sexy as hell!! |
| 23:18.22 | Duman | hahah nice! |
| 23:18.24 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 23:18.27 | Duman | immortalized! |
| 23:18.34 | ScytheBlade1 | figured you'd enjoy that |
| 23:18.45 | Sixen | =)D |
| 23:18.51 | Sixen | I have to go check that out now.. |
| 23:18.58 | Duman | sixen: you been playing at all? :-P |
| 23:19.00 | Dashkal | very very cool |
| 23:19.03 | Sixen | And T, I sent him a message, waiting for him to reply. Probably won't get a reply until tonight. |
| 23:19.06 | Dashkal | want to see it for myself :S |
| 23:19.10 | Duman | sixen: np, thx |
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| 23:19.52 | Lunessa | That's a pretty nice bone for them to throw Alpha testers. |
| 23:20.06 | Sixen | Agreed... |
| 23:20.10 | Sixen | Brianni is a Pet Vendor, I laughed at that. |
| 23:20.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Well deserved from what I gather, though |
| 23:21.05 | Rabbitbunny | Is there something like message("");, but with multiply lines? |
| 23:21.13 | Lunessa | The guys who suffered through 20 levels of talents resetting at random and re-doing EPL over and over earned it. |
| 23:21.13 | Rabbitbunny | s/ly/le/ |
| 23:21.30 | Sixen | Yeah, she's been an awesome pet... person. |
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| 23:21.39 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 23:21.50 | bleeter | cogwheel: http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Hello_world_program_in_esoteric_languages |
| 23:23.03 | Duman | heh |
| 23:23.06 | Sixen | Has anyone received any e-mail about the Blizz Friends List yet? |
| 23:23.18 | MentalPower | Rabbitbunny: message("foo\nbar\nbaz") |
| 23:23.26 | MentalPower | Sixen: nop |
| 23:23.43 | Lunessa | "What I do is I get my friends and have our own conversation in the trade channel to flood out those Anal Spammers. when I say my friends, I mean i talk to myself. " LOL |
| 23:23.45 | Sixen | Mmmm, didn't think so. |
| 23:23.52 | Rabbitbunny | MentalPower: Thanks. |
| 23:25.08 | Kirov | Ook! is the most awesome esoteric programing language evar |
| 23:25.33 | bleeter | Kirov++ |
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| 23:26.41 | Kirov | APL needs to be on that list. It wasn't considered esoteric when they created it, but it certain is now. |
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| 23:39.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Sixen: chatty, are we? |
| 23:46.18 | Thunder_Child | ~fail EA |
| 23:46.19 | purl | EA: FAIL! |
| 23:46.56 | Dashkal | Thunder_Child: Not that they don't deserve it on general principal, but what did EA do this time? |
| 23:47.37 | Thunder_Child | Dashkal, my account doesnt tell me if i have already entering in a particular key |
| 23:47.44 | Thunder_Child | entered* |
| 23:48.15 | Dashkal | cute |
| 23:48.51 | Thunder_Child | ya, and regardless if i have entered it or not (i think i have) it sends me to the "enter your key" page |
| 23:49.26 | Sixen | Sorry, had the urge to purge... ;). |
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| 23:56.42 | Sixen | So where's this book that i'm in? |
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