| 00:00.07 | Shirik | it's not |
| 00:00.13 | Shirik | based on my typing japanese characters becoming ???????????? |
| 00:00.25 | Arrowmaster | no thats because of the font |
| 00:00.46 | Drundia | i remember war3 used to cut and paste actual utf-8 bytes, which allowed some weird cutting and pasting by doing some encoding and decoding outside, but wow isn't like that |
| 00:01.32 | Drundia | speaking of font, right now it doesn't advance x position when typing missing characters so you would see all question marks in the same place like one |
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| 00:01.54 | Drundia | or they actually fixed it now |
| 00:02.16 | Shirik | Arrowmaster? |
| 00:02.32 | Shirik | They literally become question marks |
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| 00:02.33 | Arrowmaster | wow displays ? if the font doesnt support that character |
| 00:02.43 | Shirik | not just display as question marks |
| 00:02.52 | NightHawkAtWork | Some days, I do like my job: "And we all know php would be an abusive father." |
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| 00:03.32 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: droping arial unicode into your wow Fonts dir named as arialn |
| 00:03.37 | Arrowmaster | try that |
| 00:03.47 | Lunessa | Why do people insist on having a macro to target a grounding totem? I mean... shoot the fucking thing and be done, it's going to eat the spell, so why worry? |
| 00:03.54 | Shirik | Arrowmaster, will in a bit |
| 00:03.59 | bleeter | kd3: hahaha, the 'default' mugshot addon's incompatible with the update =)) silly silly redhat/fedora |
| 00:04.07 | bleeter | kd3: *with FF3 |
| 00:04.15 | kd3 | rofl |
| 00:04.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: because people are stupid. |
| 00:04.52 | NightHawkAtWork | Lunessa: because people get all whiny when it eats their "important" spells, so are willing to make all the effort and use all the time to make sure it eats a rank 1 moonfire. :P |
| 00:05.19 | NightHawkAtWork | or, what ScytheBlade1 said. |
| 00:05.22 | foxlit | Lunessa: there's a point |
| 00:05.33 | foxlit | It will eat some spells and survive, unfortunately |
| 00:05.52 | foxlit | Plus it has a nasty cooldown property - you can't just lob spells at the shaman in hopes that the first one will kill the grounding totem |
| 00:05.55 | Lunessa | People are stupid. :P But still. |
| 00:06.52 | foxlit | If you don't kill it directly, it may end up eating multiple spells and still coming back to haunt you :) |
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| 00:07.17 | Lunessa | The damned totem has like, 5 health. |
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| 00:09.20 | foxlit | And yet it survives being counterspelled, polymorphed, feared and cycloned |
| 00:09.36 | rufus | yeah if grounding totem is down, and you cast a bolt spell and athen an instant spell while the bolt is in the air, the totem will eat both |
| 00:09.45 | foxlit | And don't forget that it doesn't die until after your projectile spell hits the shaman |
| 00:09.54 | foxlit | If you're casting at long distance, it may eat multiple nukes, too |
| 00:10.43 | Lunessa | Which is all well and good, but don't ask me for a macro which will cast you ice lance if a grounding totem is down. |
| 00:11.07 | foxlit | Anything we can ask you for? :) |
| 00:11.14 | JoshBorke | pie |
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| 00:12.04 | rufus | people were asking for you to write them a macro to do that? |
| 00:12.12 | Lopeppeppy | Bliz took out decision macros a while back, NightHawkAtWork. *comfort* |
| 00:12.37 | NightHawkAtWork | Lopeppeppy: i know. :( it put a huge damper on my burnination-over-wow plans. |
| 00:12.55 | bleeter | TROGDOR!!!!! |
| 00:13.15 | NightHawkAtWork | but, i've got high hopes for my fire-over-ip project, so.. |
| 00:13.20 | Lunessa | Trogdor was a man, er, he was a Dragon Man. |
| 00:13.55 | rufus | while(WorldofWarcraft) burninate(WorldofWarcraft); |
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| 00:14.38 | Lunessa | do Burninante until CripstCritter |
| 00:15.06 | Shirik | trogdor? |
| 00:15.09 | Lunessa | Cairenn: Hockey fan? |
| 00:15.19 | Shirik | he was a dragon Lunessa |
| 00:15.20 | Shirik | not ad ragon man |
| 00:15.31 | bleeter | 10:15 <@Shirik> trogdor??? <<< wtf!!!! |
| 00:15.34 | bleeter | ~lart Shirik |
| 00:15.35 | purl | takes a big bite out of Shirik's jugular vein |
| 00:15.35 | Shirik | get the whole song! |
| 00:15.39 | Shirik | I KNOW WHO TROGDOR IS OMG |
| 00:15.47 | Lunessa | Shirik: Watch the beginning of the bit again. :P |
| 00:15.51 | Shirik | "Trogdor was a man, er, he was a dragon man. Okay, maybe he was just a dragon" |
| 00:15.57 | Shirik | that's how it goes! |
| 00:16.03 | kd3 | TROGDOR~~~~~~! |
| 00:16.03 | Shirik | or something like that |
| 00:16.08 | Lunessa | So, see.. I was right. |
| 00:16.16 | Shirik | You skipped the last part! |
| 00:16.27 | rufus | \m/ TROGDOR! \m/ |
| 00:16.52 | Shirik | ~trogdor |
| 00:16.53 | purl | somebody said trogdor was trogdor, from the 'dragon' email by Strongbad of Homestar Runner fame |
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| 00:17.03 | Shirik | ... |
| 00:17.05 | Cairenn | Lunessa: ? |
| 00:17.06 | Shirik | boring |
| 00:17.28 | Drundia | oh when will they once again make spells determine their result on hit and not on cast... |
| 00:17.58 | Lunessa | Cairenn: You keep saying "hip check" on your bumps, and that's totally a hockey thing. |
| 00:18.10 | Lopeppeppy | No, it's a chick thing Lunessa, hello! |
| 00:18.13 | Cairenn | ahhh .. yep, that's precisely why :) |
| 00:18.25 | kd3 | a chick thing? |
| 00:18.28 | Cairenn | hockey |
| 00:18.41 | Lunessa | Hey, she can hip check me anytime. For that matter so can Peppy. |
| 00:18.42 | Cairenn | but girls do them best, because we've actually got hips to do it with |
| 00:18.50 | JoshBorke | Cairenn: nice ones at that ;-) |
| 00:18.56 | bleeter | Cairenn: if you had to choose between us lot/wowi and hockey.. who'd win? |
| 00:19.06 | Cairenn | oh dear |
| 00:19.20 | Cairenn | you guys, but I'd be sad |
| 00:19.43 | bleeter | why do I get the feeling if a hocket player asked the same Q, you'd have given a diff answer ;) :P |
| 00:19.54 | Lopeppeppy | Why thank you, Lunessa! *blush* |
| 00:20.08 | Cairenn | bleeter: nope |
| 00:20.48 | Lopeppeppy | Cairenn, it's lucky you don't have to choose. We all understand your obession and cheerfully wish you joy when the season is on. *hug* |
| 00:21.49 | bleeter | Cairenn: I guess someone should thank you for choosing us... so.. uh.. thanks.. I guess :) |
| 00:22.00 | Cairenn | :) |
| 00:22.10 | Lunessa | <-- Former Caps season ticket holder. |
| 00:22.18 | JoshBorke | ~emulate Josh_Borke |
| 00:22.18 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn |
| 00:22.39 | Lunessa | Tx only has the Stars, and that's a 6 hour drive so I don't get to many NHL games anymore. |
| 00:23.01 | Shirik | caps... |
| 00:23.04 | Shirik | I used to like the caps |
| 00:23.10 | Shirik | they were the only damn team we had that could play |
| 00:23.17 | Shirik | then they turned into suck too |
| 00:23.21 | Shirik | and now we have nothing |
| 00:23.34 | Lopeppeppy | We'll always have each other! |
| 00:23.38 | Shirik | haha |
| 00:24.02 | Lopeppeppy | The only sport I take seriously is football. Y'all should come watch football with me sometime, I'm totally berzerk. |
| 00:24.12 | Cide | football? soccer, that is? |
| 00:24.16 | Lunessa | Shirik: MCI Center is nice. I used to get to watch games from the AOL Skybox - it was ... awesome. |
| 00:24.41 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy, I remember you and football |
| 00:24.45 | Shirik | based on the IRC conversations |
| 00:24.54 | Lopeppeppy | Cide. Football. Real football, American style. |
| 00:25.05 | Cide | the one where you mostly use your hands? |
| 00:25.08 | Lopeppeppy | You remember? Oops, I guess I really WAS rabid last year, huh? *grin* |
| 00:25.08 | Drundia | no, american style is fake one |
| 00:25.15 | Shirik | don't go there Drundia |
| 00:25.32 | Lopeppeppy | Cide, they don't use their hands. They use their shoulders and their heads, their hands are just for holding Gatorade bottles for endorsements. |
| 00:25.46 | Shirik | At least our football players don't spend half the game crying on the ground playing like in a theater more than they play the game |
| 00:26.05 | Drundia | good sport is always called football, regardless of what it is... |
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| 00:26.57 | Lunessa | No, Hockey. Not football. Real sport has ice, skates, weapons (sticks) and a puck that shatters glass. |
| 00:27.09 | Shirik | baseball. |
| 00:27.10 | Lunessa | Oh, and the blood BOUNCES. |
| 00:27.15 | Lopeppeppy | I love football. I watch it via IM or Vent with people when I can't get local friends to come see the freaky chick. |
| 00:27.45 | Drundia | hockey is same football.... almost.... almost almost.... not quite but almost, a tiny bit of almost. |
| 00:27.54 | Cairenn|afk | supper break, and I'm going to actually go afk for it |
| 00:28.03 | Cairenn|afk | back in a bit |
| 00:28.26 | Thunder_Child | ~enjoy Cairenn|afk |
| 00:28.31 | Thunder_Child | damit purl |
| 00:30.41 | bleeter | oO more missing mail bug |
| 00:30.53 | Drundia | again? |
| 00:31.17 | Lopeppeppy | I'll watch hockey with you if you'll watch football with me, Lunessa. |
| 00:31.21 | bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202618333&sid=1 |
| 00:31.23 | Lunessa | deal |
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| 00:52.20 | Kirkburn|afk | What does it mean when an addon name comes up in red on the addons list in 3.0? |
| 00:52.41 | Antiarc | ~seen Iriel |
| 00:53.01 | purl | iriel <n=Iriel@adsl-71-158-244-138.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 1d 20h 55m 25s ago, saying: 'Tekkub: I'd go with that, or posting a stand-alone request thread showing what you want and what research you've done so far. I tend to have more success with something that shows I at least tried myself 8-)'. |
| 00:53.01 | Dark_Elf | its missing a dependency probably |
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| 00:53.08 | Kirkburn|afk | Nah, has a different message |
| 00:53.30 | Kirkburn|afk | Tried running Bartender4 and it's asking for Lib-KeyBound, which is ticked, but red |
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| 00:54.33 | malreth | blizzard banned LibKeyBound? |
| 00:54.46 | Xinhuan | what? |
| 00:55.02 | Gnarfoz | out of date + checkbox not checked? ;) |
| 00:55.30 | Kirkburn|afk | Gnarfoz, no |
| 00:55.45 | Kirkburn|afk | It's all set up fine, but the names of most of the libs are red, and don't load |
| 00:56.21 | Kirkburn|afk | malreth, red addons are disallowed? |
| 01:00.08 | Gnarfoz | arghhh |
| 01:00.21 | Gnarfoz | how do I get something to be the same size, regardless of resolution |
| 01:00.28 | Gnarfoz | i.e. the same relative size of the screen >_> |
| 01:01.11 | Gnarfoz | I'm already using: f1:SetHeight(WorldFrame:GetHeight()*0,33333334657881) --f1:SetHeight(256) at 1680x1050 |
| 01:01.33 | Gnarfoz | but if I do the same for both directions, then it'll end up squished if the res in question doesn't have the same aspect ratio |
| 01:01.44 | malreth | Kirkburn|afk: |
| 01:01.46 | Gnarfoz | i.e. at 1280x1024 this doesn't look the same >_> |
| 01:01.47 | malreth | ~malreth |
| 01:01.48 | purl | never take malreth seriously |
| 01:02.07 | Kirkburn|afk | heh |
| 01:02.16 | Kirkburn|afk | But still, what on earth is this red highlighting about |
| 01:03.13 | Xinhuan | red names is when the TOC has a interface number that is incompatible? |
| 01:03.15 | Xinhuan | not sure |
| 01:03.29 | Xinhuan | like 1xxxx interface wouldn't work on tbc onwards |
| 01:03.58 | Kirkburn|afk | Hmm, locationfu is red, but the toc is 20400 |
| 01:04.41 | Kirkburn|afk | Guildfu is also 20400, but yellow |
| 01:06.20 | Gnarfoz | oO nothing but 30000 should work? |
| 01:07.05 | Kirkburn|afk | I would have thought, but no |
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| 01:12.03 | Kirkburn|afk | Updated LibKeyBound to 30000 - still red |
| 01:13.38 | Shirik | dependencies? |
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| 01:17.32 | Kirkburn|afk | All libs are (were) ticked |
| 01:17.52 | Kirkburn|afk | And I can't imagine 90% of my libs have dependencies |
| 01:18.25 | Kirkburn|afk | oooh, cowtip works :) |
| 01:19.45 | Dark_Elf | it'll graze your pastor! |
| 01:19.55 | Kirkburn|afk | eww |
| 01:20.05 | Dark_Elf | i cant spell |
| 01:21.28 | Thunder_Child | this is text from an add at the bottom of wotlkwiki: |
| 01:21.30 | Thunder_Child | You're such a noob |
| 01:21.30 | Thunder_Child | Tired of hearing this? Find out how the pro's own, and you can too! |
| 01:21.30 | Thunder_Child | www.DestroyWoW.com |
| 01:21.51 | Thunder_Child | i feel dirty just reading that |
| 01:22.04 | malreth | ~kick Thunder_Child |
| 01:22.05 | purl | ACTION kicks Thunder_Child |
| 01:22.17 | Thunder_Child | ~spike malreth |
| 01:22.26 | Thunder_Child | DAMIT PURL! |
| 01:22.28 | malreth | ~rub Thunder_Child |
| 01:22.29 | purl | ACTION massages Thunder_Child's shoulders. |
| 01:22.34 | malreth | NOOOO!!!! |
| 01:22.37 | Xuerian | o_0 |
| 01:22.43 | Xuerian | I think it's backfiring... |
| 01:22.48 | Thunder_Child | not on me |
| 01:22.58 | Xuerian | Indeed :p |
| 01:23.18 | malreth | i think all ~attacks should have a small chance of backfiring |
| 01:23.42 | malreth | ~rub Xuerian |
| 01:23.43 | purl | ACTION rubs Xuerian's face with a cheese grater. |
| 01:23.54 | Xuerian | .. |
| 01:23.58 | Xuerian | Didn't need my lips anyway |
| 01:25.10 | Lopeppeppy | .... |
| 01:27.45 | Shirik | hi Lopeppeppy! |
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| 01:28.49 | Gnarfoz | o_O |
| 01:29.14 | Gnarfoz | why is the UI "jumping" to a different size once I first click "ok" in the video options? oO |
| 01:29.48 | Lopeppeppy | Hateful! |
| 01:29.58 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, you missed me! Awww. |
| 01:30.02 | Shirik | <3 |
| 01:30.12 | Kirkburn|afk | Holy crap, quartz works without problem |
| 01:30.12 | Shirik | We all miss you |
| 01:30.30 | Lopeppeppy | Oh gods, Shirik, don't give a girl a swelled ego. |
| 01:30.39 | Shirik | lol, why not? |
| 01:30.45 | Kirkburn|afk | Pitbull seems to just have an aura problem |
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| 01:31.13 | Lopeppeppy | ... I don't even have a rational answer for that, Shirik, so I'll just have to blush and accept. |
| 01:31.20 | Shirik | :) |
| 01:34.44 | Xuerian | Tisk tisk tisk |
| 01:34.47 | Thunder_Child | ~women |
| 01:34.54 | Thunder_Child | really? |
| 01:35.01 | Xuerian | Thunder_Child: What did you expect? |
| 01:35.17 | Thunder_Child | an insult tbh, it IS the internet |
| 01:35.21 | Xuerian | true, true |
| 01:38.04 | Lopeppeppy | purl is a girl, she would not insult her gender. Duh |
| 01:38.10 | bleeter_ | qft |
| 01:38.44 | malreth | ~yuri Lopeppeppy |
| 01:38.45 | purl | ACTION and Lopeppeppy exchange sweet, long glances at each other amidst a background of pastel flowers and that's all that ever happens. Ever. |
| 01:38.46 | Thunder_Child | unlike most people, purl is an equal oportunity (sp?) person |
| 01:38.46 | batbot | Thunder_Child, opportunity. |
| 01:38.54 | Sixen | ~seen duman |
| 01:38.56 | purl | duman is currently on #wowuidev (3d 6h 25m 52s). Has said a total of 14 messages. Is idling for 3h 3m 42s, last said: 'hmm... donde esta sixen'. |
| 01:38.56 | Thunder_Child | what batbot said |
| 01:39.16 | Sixen | =[ |
| 01:39.27 | bleeter_ | Sixen: told ya! :P |
| 01:39.49 | Sixen | =p |
| 01:42.30 | Kirkburn|afk | So a level 68 dk just ran past me |
| 01:43.02 | bleeter_ | killeeet |
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| 01:44.17 | Gnarfoz | if an addon is loaded and it has SavedVariables |
| 01:44.23 | Gnarfoz | what scope are those available in? |
| 01:44.25 | Gnarfoz | global? |
| 01:44.29 | Thunder_Child | Antiarc, Ping |
| 01:45.55 | malreth | Gnarfoz: correct. global. |
| 01:46.04 | Gnarfoz | even though ~malreth? |
| 01:46.20 | Lopeppeppy | Sometimes malreth is nice.... |
| 01:46.31 | malreth | i'm only lying unless i speak the truth |
| 01:46.41 | Shirik | ~malreth |
| 01:46.42 | purl | never take malreth seriously |
| 01:46.47 | malreth | except now |
| 01:46.55 | Shirik | how do we know to take you seriously right there? |
| 01:47.15 | kd3 | lua>5*24 |
| 01:47.16 | lua_bot | kd3: 120 |
| 01:47.50 | malreth | saved variables are global |
| 01:48.02 | bleeter | kd3: erm... 5*24 = 10*12... I'm shocked ;) |
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| 01:48.24 | malreth | http://www.wowwiki.com/Saving_variables_between_game_sessions |
| 01:48.25 | Shirik | ok random serious question |
| 01:48.30 | haste | no |
| 01:48.38 | Shirik | ok nm |
| 01:48.46 | haste | :D |
| 01:48.50 | malreth | i'll give you a random serious answer |
| 01:48.53 | Antiarc | Thunder_Child: Pyongyang |
| 01:48.55 | bleeter | ~comfort kd3 |
| 01:48.56 | purl | There, there, kd3. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 01:48.56 | malreth | or a seriously random answer |
| 01:49.11 | bleeter | Ougadougou |
| 01:50.08 | Thunder_Child | Antiarc, how do i go about moving the chat frame with chatter, i dont see an option for it and i no longer have rclick functionality |
| 01:50.17 | Antiarc | That's a bug :( |
| 01:50.26 | Antiarc | You may have to turn chatter off, unlock it, then turn it back on |
| 01:50.27 | Antiarc | I should fix that. |
| 01:50.40 | Thunder_Child | ok, thanks |
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| 01:51.19 | malreth | Lunessa and Lopeppeppy both left the room... i think they're going to have the sex |
| 01:53.26 | JoshBorke | so we should give them some privacy |
| 01:53.27 | JoshBorke | sheesh |
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| 01:59.01 | Thunder_Child | lol @ all the new spoofs blizz is doing |
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| 02:04.30 | Antiarc | Thunder_Child: http://wow.tachyonsix.com/beta/Chatter-r79024-wotlk.zip |
| 02:04.32 | Xuerian | Thunder_Child: ? |
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| 02:06.26 | Thunder_Child | ok Antiarc |
| 02:06.39 | Thunder_Child | Xuerian, i have to kill Mayor Quimby |
| 02:06.47 | Xuerian | Thunder_Child: I'm lost >_> |
| 02:07.17 | Thunder_Child | Xuerian, well you '?' me |
| 02:07.34 | Xuerian | Thunder_Child: "lol@spoofs" what spoofs |
| 02:07.39 | Xuerian | ir clueless. |
| 02:07.46 | Thunder_Child | "Thunder_Child: Xuerian, i have to kill Mayor Quimby" |
| 02:08.41 | Thunder_Child | mayor quimby is the name of the mayor in the simpson |
| 02:08.42 | Thunder_Child | s |
| 02:09.11 | Xuerian | I knew it sounded familiar :p |
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| 02:14.36 | Tem | damn lol |
| 02:14.46 | Tem | Pepe's Should of Pacification drops a lot for my guild |
| 02:14.52 | Tem | it just dropped twice on the same pull |
| 02:18.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Tem: same |
| 02:18.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Tem: we've seen it drop 16 times to date or so |
| 02:19.06 | Tem | lol |
| 02:19.19 | duaiwe | the shadow damage cloak was like that for us |
| 02:19.38 | |Jelly| | Is there a way to set a Dogtag so that on my PARTY frame, it shows their target's name/raid icon? |
| 02:20.02 | ScytheBlade1 | We |
| 02:20.09 | ScytheBlade1 | 've had the shadow cloak drop 4 times so far this run |
| 02:20.10 | NightHawkTheSane | |Jelly|: i -think- so. but i couldn't tell you off the top of my head. let me poke around some |
| 02:20.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Just /this run/ |
| 02:20.30 | |Jelly| | I've played with a couple things to no avail and it's just frustrating me. |
| 02:22.36 | Thunder_Child | :( server restart |
| 02:22.58 | Xuerian | jelly: Seems like you should be able to so long as you can... eh... is there a unit for the "self" frame? |
| 02:25.21 | NightHawkTheSane | |Jelly|: hmm. It looks like the problem is there's no way to specify "partyNTarget" in a way that changes depending on which party frame it is. |
| 02:25.53 | NightHawkTheSane | I mean, you could probably do [Name(unit="party1target")], but that would, well, only be party1target |
| 02:27.31 | Thunder_Child | i like how the server select screen unselects my selection just as i get to the confirm button |
| 02:27.58 | Thunder_Child | works Antiarc |
| 02:28.16 | Antiarc | woot |
| 02:30.05 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Exactly what I was thinking. I don't see a clause for "this unit's target" |
| 02:30.13 | Xuerian | Kindof need a "thisunit", on that note... |
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| 02:30.48 | Xuerian | oh hay |
| 02:30.49 | Xuerian | nevermind |
| 02:30.52 | Xuerian | Target() |
| 02:31.04 | NightHawkTheSane | eh? |
| 02:31.04 | Xuerian | Return unit id of unit's target |
| 02:31.17 | Xuerian | oh crap :( |
| 02:31.28 | Xuerian | default unit is player. |
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| 02:48.04 | Tem | Riddle me this |
| 02:48.08 | Tem | shaman healing |
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| 02:48.27 | Tem | not just spamming chain heal |
| 02:48.29 | Tem | good thing? |
| 02:48.31 | Tem | bad thing? |
| 02:49.04 | NightHawkTheSane | what do you mean? |
| 02:49.16 | NightHawkTheSane | do you mean, is it a good thing that blizzard is trying to move it away from JUST that? |
| 02:49.32 | NightHawkTheSane | (the answer is yes, by the way. spamming CH is fucking boring as all sin) |
| 02:49.52 | Tem | no, I mean in terms of being an effective healer |
| 02:49.57 | NightHawkTheSane | oh |
| 02:49.58 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* |
| 02:50.05 | Tem | (to the point where lesser healing wave has done more healing than CH) |
| 02:50.23 | NightHawkTheSane | no.. not really. any shaman who has those kind of numbers has got to have -horrid- mana efficiancy |
| 02:50.44 | NightHawkTheSane | with enough +heal, various ranks of CH can basically replace LHW/HW |
| 02:50.57 | Tem | that's what I thought |
| 02:51.22 | |Jelly| | chain heal needs a cooldown |
| 02:51.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Really, any less than ~85% chain heals from a shaman is basically inefficiant, in general |
| 02:51.32 | Thunder_Child | you know, having a trainer for each tree is fail |
| 02:53.39 | Amarande | where is there a trainer for each tree? DKs? |
| 02:53.45 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 02:53.54 | Thunder_Child | ya :( |
| 02:54.16 | NightHawkTheSane | i like the idea in concept, but it seems prone to confusion |
| 02:54.26 | Thunder_Child | and time wasting |
| 02:54.48 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, the extra 1 minutes you spend talking to 2 extra guys and spam clicking "train" isnt much |
| 02:55.08 | Thunder_Child | true, but why do it when you dont have to |
| 02:55.22 | Tem | meh, you have dominion buff |
| 02:55.25 | Tem | so it totally doesn't matter |
| 02:55.57 | NightHawkTheSane | well, it provides a nice flavor |
| 02:55.57 | Thunder_Child | flavor at the cost of effency doesnt seem worth it to me |
| 02:55.57 | Thunder_Child | but w/e |
| 02:56.16 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm skeptical of how much efficiancy is ACTUALLY lost, versus the perception of it, but not having experienced it myself, I really couldn't say |
| 02:56.57 | kd3 | anyone know what the cvar to disable screen shaking is |
| 02:56.59 | kd3 | ? |
| 02:57.27 | Thunder_Child | well you have to go to 3 vs. 1 and even if they were right next to eachother (which they are not) it would still be more work |
| 02:58.23 | Thunder_Child | well, it seems like guardian spirit is going to be big with tanks |
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| 03:04.48 | |Jelly| | It's funny how I judge wisdom on the mob that I'm tanking and yet the spriest is ALWAYS out of mana. /cough |
| 03:05.19 | NightHawkTheSane | |Jelly|: you're obviously tanking the wrong mob . |
| 03:05.46 | Kaso | But think how much dps he must be doing if hes burning all that mana |
| 03:05.47 | |Jelly| | obviously :P |
| 03:05.48 | Kaso | !! |
| 03:05.55 | |Jelly| | less than me :P |
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| 03:06.32 | |Jelly| | http://i34.tinypic.com/2e1et6v.jpg |
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| 03:07.38 | Duman | hmm |
| 03:08.58 | |Jelly| | well, i guess technically he's out DPSing me but I'm beating him overall. |
| 03:10.14 | Kaso | aoe cheats imo |
| 03:10.24 | |Jelly| | <3 |
| 03:11.27 | |Jelly| | WTB the shaman dropping WF |
| 03:11.46 | NightHawkTheSane | wf? |
| 03:11.58 | Kaso | pff, then he'd loose on his already low dps man! he cant do that! |
| 03:12.00 | NightHawkTheSane | wrath of air would be nicer |
| 03:12.07 | |Jelly| | he's not 64 |
| 03:12.15 | NightHawkTheSane | ah, well then |
| 03:12.34 | Hjalte | Can you apply for a beta key if your addon is a ButtonFacade skin? |
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| 03:13.43 | Kaso | woops |
| 03:13.48 | Kaso | "This is not a contest! Whether using US or EU client, if you are a mod author that hosts with us and you have been keeping your mods current, you are eligible for a key!" |
| 03:13.48 | Amarande | hmm, is it reasonable to do both [60D] Mother's Milk and [60D] Urok Doomhowl in the same LBRS go? |
| 03:13.56 | Kaso | Amarande not really |
| 03:14.16 | NightHawkTheSane | it's pretty unreasonable to do any lbrs. |
| 03:14.19 | Amarande | it's irritating that apparently you have to pass the spiders -before- you get to Urok :| |
| 03:14.32 | Kaso | Mother's Milk requires you to keep the poison on you till you leave |
| 03:14.34 | Amarande | which means ... well, I'm probably one of the very few classes that can reasonably do both in one run LOL |
| 03:14.40 | Kaso | and playing the rest of the isntance with the poison sucks |
| 03:14.46 | Amarande | as a Paladin, I should be able to keep casting BoF |
| 03:15.12 | Amarande | how far in do you go to get to Omokk? can't be that far, if he was killed before I even got added to the group I was in last run |
| 03:15.23 | Kaso | yah, just worry about the rest of your party Amarande |
| 03:15.48 | Amarande | yeah, I probably wouldn't want to bring melee dps for such a run |
| 03:16.23 | Kaso | omokk is about 5min after spiders |
| 03:16.31 | Kaso | iirc |
| 03:17.15 | Kaso | or.. |
| 03:17.21 | Kaso | i think he is yeah |
| 03:17.37 | Kaso | he's underneath the horrible room full of orcs at the end isnt he? |
| 03:18.00 | Amarande | and apparently the place you put the thing to get the Mojo is -right- after the spiders |
| 03:18.06 | Amarande | I'm a bit fuzzy on where you get the pike |
| 03:18.19 | NightHawkTheSane | the pike is in the beginning |
| 03:18.23 | NightHawkTheSane | i think |
| 03:18.42 | Amarande | hmm, so as long as one avoids bringing a rogue, it might be possible to do both quests in one run |
| 03:18.52 | Amarande | a rogue would probably want to Gouge my eyes out if I brought one though |
| 03:18.52 | Kaso | that place horrible i agree. BRD is better than it even |
| 03:19.21 | Kaso | Amarande even without melee class, its still frecking annoying |
| 03:19.24 | NightHawkTheSane | brd was a great instance, it was just long and somewhat labyrinthine |
| 03:19.42 | Kaso | brd really is two instances like BRS is in my mind |
| 03:19.53 | Kaso | if you do the lava run, and hte end bosses, or the earlier bosses |
| 03:19.54 | NightHawkTheSane | its like 3. >< |
| 03:20.01 | Amarande | Kaso: as a tank, if there's no melee in the party, I should be able to keep enough distance from the party to only have to worry about me |
| 03:20.11 | Amarande | casting BoF every time the cooldown is up may get irritating, though |
| 03:20.21 | Amarande | then again, there are way more irritating things in LBRS than that LOL |
| 03:20.37 | Kaso | theres things to consider like running around trying to avoid mobs and getting webbed in their patrol paths etc as well |
| 03:21.33 | Amarande | however, there's only three things left for me to do in LBRS that I know of |
| 03:21.45 | Amarande | and dealing with the poison, at least, means only having to deal with the damned spider room *once* |
| 03:22.01 | Amarande | tidbit I learned from a 70 pally who was with us the first time through LBRS: the spider room sucks. Bad. |
| 03:22.34 | Amarande | which means ... which is worse, dealing with the poison for the few minutes it takes from spiders to Omokk, or having to do the entire spider room 2x |
| 03:22.54 | Amarande | er, make that 3x, since I went through that room the past run too lol |
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| 03:22.57 | Kaso | On the Beta key thing, it says about having an active wow account. If i were to unfreeze my account would i be ellgiable, or does it have to be already active as of x deadline sorta thing |
| 03:23.29 | Kaso | Not going to the end? well thats more plausable then |
| 03:24.36 | NightHawkTheSane | i imagine it would just have to be active by whenever blizz gets around to looking at your account :P |
| 03:25.06 | Amarande | Kaso: not going to the end |
| 03:25.10 | Amarande | I already did the other quests there |
| 03:25.20 | NightHawkTheSane | get your ubrs key? :P |
| 03:25.22 | Amarande | all I have left to do is Mother's Milk, Urok Doomhowl, and to get the last UBRS attunement gem |
| 03:25.25 | Kaso | perhaps ill be reactivating my account tommorrow then |
| 03:25.37 | Amarande | I have the unadorned seal and the two gems that don't come from Omokk |
| 03:25.49 | Amarande | they let me need on them since apparently no one else in the group cared about UBRS |
| 03:26.06 | NightHawkTheSane | who really does at this point? :P |
| 03:26.34 | Kaso | oh wtf they made the gems 100%?! |
| 03:26.44 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 03:26.51 | Kaso | When i was a lad, we had to walk up hill both ways 10 times to omokk to get that damn gem |
| 03:26.53 | Kaso | IN THE SNOW! |
| 03:26.57 | NightHawkTheSane | i know, right! |
| 03:27.02 | Xuerian | Amen |
| 03:27.04 | ScytheBlade1 | They made them what? |
| 03:27.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh the heroic gems? wtf |
| 03:27.09 | Xuerian | you were LUCKY if you ever finished that damn key |
| 03:27.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow |
| 03:27.13 | NightHawkTheSane | no ScytheBlade1 |
| 03:27.16 | NightHawkTheSane | the ubrs key gems |
| 03:27.28 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:27.45 | ScytheBlade1 | I am actually ubrs keyed |
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| 03:28.54 | Amarande | UBRS key gems are 100%, but only ONE drops from each boss each run |
| 03:29.05 | Legorol | Kaso: afaik, your account would have had to be active when they updated the beta realms' account database |
| 03:29.09 | Legorol | just like with the PTRs |
| 03:29.16 | Legorol | so if you activate it now, you are probably out of luck |
| 03:29.17 | Amarande | so you still have to do a full run's worth of killing for each member who wants a key |
| 03:29.24 | Kaso | hmm ;/ |
| 03:29.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Legorol: ooh, thats a smarter answer than mine. |
| 03:29.36 | Amarande | Kaso: I believe [Beta Key] is crafted by Engineers with skill 525 |
| 03:30.42 | Corrodias | Amarande: ah, they changed it to 100% did they? it wasn't, in the past |
| 03:30.44 | Amarande | I'm trying to get keyed for all the 60 raids that have keys |
| 03:30.48 | Corrodias | (most ridiculous thing i've ever heard of...) |
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| 03:31.04 | Amarande | Corrodias: did any other raid attunement depend on random drops though? |
| 03:31.06 | Legorol | Amarande: 60?? |
| 03:31.15 | Amarande | Legorol: well, none of the 70 raids NEED keys lol |
| 03:31.18 | Legorol | Amarande: sure, Ony quest chain |
| 03:31.24 | Legorol | damned crumpled note, sometimes would never drop |
| 03:31.36 | Corrodias | i'm sorry, i have no idea |
| 03:31.52 | Amarande | say, is the BWL key quest in UBRS or LBRS? |
| 03:32.00 | Legorol | UBRS |
| 03:32.00 | Amarande | It just occurred to me I never found Blackhand's Command yet |
| 03:32.01 | NightHawkTheSane | it finishes in urbs |
| 03:32.03 | digmouse | UBRS |
| 03:32.04 | NightHawkTheSane | ubrs* |
| 03:32.19 | NightHawkTheSane | but the item that starts the quest is dropped outside the instance |
| 03:32.35 | digmouse | to the right of the instance door |
| 03:32.37 | Amarande | I know, I've seen it on other characters |
| 03:32.55 | Amarande | haven't got one on this one yet though |
| 03:32.57 | Legorol | BWL is probably the easiest raid attunement they've ever done |
| 03:32.58 | digmouse | a mob marked as "rare" but spawns in 1 minute.... |
| 03:33.02 | Amarande | Legorol: not really |
| 03:33.05 | Legorol | can't think of an easier one |
| 03:33.07 | Amarande | seeing as you have to get attuned for UBRS first lol |
| 03:33.20 | Legorol | nope you don't, you just have to be let in |
| 03:33.21 | NightHawkTheSane | nah, just find some schmuck with akey |
| 03:33.23 | Amarande | Legorol: Naxxramas |
| 03:33.32 | Amarande | you just have to grind out honored with AD and buy some expensive mats on AH |
| 03:33.33 | Legorol | you need exalted AD rep or tons of gold |
| 03:33.39 | Legorol | i wouldn't consider either of them easy |
| 03:33.46 | Legorol | it definitely wasn't at 60 |
| 03:33.47 | Amarande | Legorol: maybe not then, but in these days of IQD dailies |
| 03:34.00 | Amarande | I think you can probably easily afford it on most servers within a week of dailies, if not a couple days? |
| 03:34.14 | Legorol | that still takes hell of a lot more than a UBRS run |
| 03:34.14 | digmouse | but now if you level, you'll find it's so easy to get exalted |
| 03:34.18 | Legorol | and that's all you need for BWL |
| 03:34.24 | NightHawkTheSane | it's not really fair to compare that to now, though |
| 03:34.36 | Amarande | on the other hand, getting attuned for UBRS isn't so easy, is it? |
| 03:34.42 | Amarande | I forget what I need to do after I get the third gem |
| 03:34.43 | NightHawkTheSane | at 70? sure it is |
| 03:34.45 | Amarande | or if I need to level to 60 first |
| 03:34.48 | Legorol | Ok I'll correct myself: |
| 03:34.56 | Legorol | at level 70, the *easiest* attunement to complete is MC |
| 03:35.00 | Legorol | the 2nd easiest is BWL |
| 03:35.15 | Amarande | Legorol: your 70 must be different than mine |
| 03:35.18 | Legorol | MC attune takes 10 mins or less of lava hopping |
| 03:35.22 | Amarande | my 70 can't even make it past the Ring of Law apparently :| |
| 03:35.29 | Amarande | or maybe I was unlucky |
| 03:35.31 | Legorol | that's because you are not lava hopping ;-) |
| 03:35.36 | NightHawkTheSane | you're doing it wrong, Amarande |
| 03:35.38 | Amarande | I'm a lock, and got that big gorilla guy that enrages |
| 03:35.44 | Legorol | i often do casual MC runs, and there is always a schmuck who isn't attuned |
| 03:35.53 | Legorol | i usually get it done in less than 10 minutes for the few that needs it |
| 03:35.56 | Amarande | couldn't even solo him down past 25% or so and he's EIGHTEEN levels below me |
| 03:36.02 | Amarande | how can a +52 be stronger than a 70? |
| 03:36.13 | Legorol | Amarande: to get MC attuned, you basically skip almost every mob in BRD, and swim through lava |
| 03:36.15 | Legorol | every 70 can do it |
| 03:36.23 | Legorol | the only challenge is the 6 fire elementals at the end |
| 03:36.32 | Amarande | ahh yes, and I did learn how to make a greater fire protection potion tonight, too :) |
| 03:36.35 | Legorol | but i think with a timely fear you might be able to loot the item needed without killing any |
| 03:37.23 | Yssaril | ama is a lock so banish one and nucke down the other 2 :) |
| 03:37.36 | Legorol | whatever, they are not that tough |
| 03:37.45 | Legorol | put a vw on them or something |
| 03:38.32 | Xuerian | Uhhhhhh |
| 03:38.58 | Xuerian | Interface\Glues\CharacterCreate\UI-CharacterCreate-races2.blp |
| 03:39.02 | Xuerian | go look. |
| 03:42.27 | clad|sleep | hahaha |
| 03:42.53 | Xuerian | XD |
| 03:42.55 | Tenchworks | Tekkub: ping |
| 03:42.56 | clad|sleep | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/0533a536dc0e0514d40c093131df9b52.png is what Xuerian is referring to |
| 03:42.59 | Xuerian | I play one -_- |
| 03:43.00 | Tekkub | ow |
| 03:43.36 | Amarande | hmm, I wonder if there are servers where there never will be a 60Naxx Kel'Thuzad kill even once |
| 03:43.57 | Tenchworks | I managed to break tourguide, where would you like me to post the bug report? |
| 03:44.00 | Xuerian | The old Naxx is going away at WotLK release, right? |
| 03:44.15 | Xuerian | Tenchworks: Dump it's broken corpse at Tekkub's feet and run like hell. |
| 03:44.21 | Tenchworks | lol |
| 03:44.41 | Tekkub | googlecode |
| 03:44.56 | Tenchworks | and Xuerian, that is correct |
| 03:45.03 | Xuerian | Hmm... |
| 03:45.10 | Xuerian | I wonder if they're going to use those item models again in wotlk |
| 03:45.17 | Xuerian | If not I might have some raiding to do |
| 03:45.20 | kd3 | they've said they plan to |
| 03:45.35 | Xuerian | Ah good... They looked great |
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| 04:03.27 | cog|sleep | nn |
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| 04:23.05 | bstone1 | anyone here? |
| 04:23.29 | |Jelly| | ..yeah |
| 04:23.33 | bstone1 | having a problem with "party quests" addon |
| 04:23.44 | |Jelly| | don't know anything about it |
| 04:23.53 | bstone1 | i can see it in AddOns, but it's now showing up under "Quests" |
| 04:24.07 | bstone1 | just curious how i can get it to show up. seems like it might be disabled. |
| 04:25.26 | Thunder_Child | bstone1, do slash commands work on it? |
| 04:26.03 | bstone1 | Thunder_Child, yes, i can do /console reloadui |
| 04:26.15 | Thunder_Child | thats not quite what i meant |
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| 04:27.31 | bstone1 | can you explain? |
| 04:27.53 | Thunder_Child | something having to do with party quests, eg. /partyquests |
| 04:28.07 | Thunder_Child | though now i see it's cosmos and i am not sure how they work their stuff |
| 04:28.58 | bstone1 | i just dumped WTF and Interface and reloading |
| 04:29.04 | bstone1 | i think it's just a bad cosmos install |
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| 04:50.05 | Thunder_Child | ~epic |
| 04:50.06 | purl | hmm... epic is an opensource Perl IDE for the Eclipse platform. |
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| 04:55.36 | Thunder_Child | ~ping Fisker- |
| 04:55.37 | purl | pong Fisker- |
| 04:56.01 | Tekkub | dong fister- |
| 04:56.20 | Thunder_Child | thanks for sharing what you read Tekkub |
| 04:57.43 | Amarande | hmm, useless cooldowns: |
| 04:57.50 | Amarande | [55] Melding of Influences, the Encased Corrupt Ooze |
| 04:58.19 | Amarande | 3 min ... when it is absolutely and 100% impossible to get another ooze and get back to Un'Goro within 3 minutes of failing to have it work, anyway? lol |
| 04:59.05 | Amarande | actually, what *is* the shortest possible amount of time to go round trip between Un'Goro and Undercity, anyway? :) |
| 04:59.07 | Tekkub | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?achievement=16 |
| 04:59.07 | Tekkub | hehe |
| 04:59.35 | Gnarfoz | gah |
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| 05:00.18 | Gnarfoz | why aren't my savedvariables working |
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| 05:02.29 | Seerah | did you remember to put them in your toc? |
| 05:02.55 | ScytheBlade1 | 1) Put it in your .toc 2) Don't declare them local |
| 05:03.14 | Xuerian | Oh lord now they've given people a reason to be first to 80 |
| 05:03.17 | Seerah | 3) be fully exited out of the game when you added them to your toc |
| 05:03.20 | Xuerian | It's going to be scary to see the times |
| 05:03.23 | Gnarfoz | did all 3 |
| 05:03.23 | Seerah | ? |
| 05:03.51 | Gnarfoz | and they *are* working in that sense, but I try to act on them and it simply doesn't happen |
| 05:04.05 | Xuerian | Gnarfoz: Define "Working" |
| 05:04.13 | Gnarfoz | they are restored on login |
| 05:04.34 | Xuerian | Gnarfoz: Your own system, or Ace3? |
| 05:04.42 | Gnarfoz | yet, if I do something as simple as if savedvar then DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("ok, it works") end, nothing happens |
| 05:05.02 | Gnarfoz | my own system (i.e. just the basic "declare in toc") |
| 05:05.16 | Xuerian | Ah. /shrug o_0 |
| 05:05.39 | Seerah | can you print them from within the game? |
| 05:06.05 | Gnarfoz | yeah, /dump savedvar returns true |
| 05:06.28 | Seerah | where are you putting your ok it works debug message? |
| 05:06.53 | Gnarfoz | where, in regards of nesting? |
| 05:07.08 | Seerah | like in OnEnable, etc |
| 05:07.36 | Gnarfoz | uhm, no OnEnable? ^^ |
| 05:07.55 | Seerah | is it after sv's are loaded? |
| 05:08.14 | Gnarfoz | edible is good |
| 05:08.46 | Cairenn|afk | oh fiddle, did I forget to change my tag when I got back from supper? |
| 05:08.49 | Seerah | yes |
| 05:08.52 | Gnarfoz | Seerah: uhm, I think I might now what's wrong (i.e. why it's working with one of the two saved vars): pure luck |
| 05:08.59 | Seerah | lol |
| 05:09.19 | Gnarfoz | should probably register for V_L etc |
| 05:09.20 | Seerah | if you still have problems, these guys are smarter then me. :) I'm going to bed :) |
| 05:09.26 | Seerah | yeah :) |
| 05:09.27 | Cairenn | sweet dreams Seerah |
| 05:09.33 | Seerah | night night Cairenn :) |
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| 05:13.19 | ScytheBlade1 | If you login with bad information to the beta, it'll still get any relevant updates, right? |
| 05:13.35 | Gnarfoz | if an update is available from "patchlist" then login info is ignored |
| 05:13.47 | Gnarfoz | i.e. you could enter blah / blah ^^ |
| 05:13.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, but iirc that isn't always kept up to date (namely for the beta) |
| 05:14.01 | ScytheBlade1 | (I may be wrong) |
| 05:14.13 | Gnarfoz | uhm, I wouldn't know how else your client would know there's an update |
| 05:14.26 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, my patch downloaded even before i launched the game |
| 05:14.45 | Gnarfoz | that's because the installer tries to start the launcher right after finishing the installation |
| 05:15.06 | Gnarfoz | hrm |
| 05:15.14 | Thunder_Child | well regardless, i still didnt have to enter any info |
| 05:15.18 | Gnarfoz | how do I do OnEnable in a pure-lua addon? oO |
| 05:15.20 | Gnarfoz | I'm confused |
| 05:20.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Gnarfoz: Err, a what? |
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| 05:22.35 | Gnarfoz | nevermind ^^ |
| 05:22.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah :) |
| 05:22.43 | Gnarfoz | hidden frames don't receive events, right? |
| 05:22.55 | Gnarfoz | hm, or do they |
| 05:23.01 | Gnarfoz | gah tiredness doesn't help ^^ |
| 05:29.54 | |Jelly| | Don't believe they do. |
| 05:32.54 | haste | Gnarfoz: they do |
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| 05:40.13 | Thunder_Child | an AoC review that is pure win http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/138-Age-of-Conan |
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| 05:41.36 | Adys | ~whalehug Cairenn |
| 05:41.37 | purl | ACTION Persuades a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh to hug Cairenn |
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| 05:47.00 | Recompense | Hey everyone, I've got an unusual question regarding WoWLua if anyone's really familiar with it |
| 05:49.18 | Cairenn | ask |
| 05:49.30 | Xuerian | Nothing to loose, the author is currently conked out. |
| 05:50.08 | Recompense | I've got a small amount of code in my Lua file that doesn't seem to be loading properly when I start the game up - but if I paste it into WoWLua and run it, there are no errors returned and the code works as I'd expect it to |
| 05:50.24 | Cairenn | http://wowuidev.pastey.net |
| 05:50.31 | Cairenn | pastey it, give us the link |
| 05:51.13 | Recompense | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/92313 |
| 05:51.29 | Recompense | (checked the .toc already, too) |
| 05:52.17 | Gnarfoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:52.21 | Tenchworks | what's this WoWLua you are reffering to? |
| 05:52.21 | Gnarfoz | missing space? ;) |
| 05:52.53 | Recompense | oh I pasted a working version in there, hang on >< |
| 05:53.46 | Recompense | ok - http://wowuidev.pastey.net/92313 |
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| 05:55.27 | Gnarfoz | you're missing an 'end' |
| 05:55.32 | Recompense | Yeah I just caught that too |
| 05:55.44 | Recompense | Updated again -_- I had it right then I started tinkering with it when I came in the channel |
| 05:56.10 | Gnarfoz | so, what's not working? :D |
| 05:56.24 | Recompense | Tench, WowLua is an addon that lets you run Lua scripts in game pretty efficiently |
| 05:56.50 | Gnarfoz | oh, also Recompense, your OnEvent function doesn't take any parameters. |
| 05:57.05 | Gnarfoz | or arguments, whatchamacallit |
| 05:57.16 | Gnarfoz | function blah(self, event, arg1, etc) |
| 05:57.28 | Tenchworks | in game? cool |
| 05:57.28 | Gnarfoz | thus: event is always nonexistant |
| 05:57.44 | Recompense | But it works if I run it though WoWLua - hmmm let me see, Gnarfoz |
| 05:57.50 | Tenchworks | gonna have to look it up then |
| 05:58.03 | Gnarfoz | it can't do what it's supposed to do, even if it's free from syntax errors ;) |
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| 05:59.21 | MentalPower | Gnarfoz: why so you say that? |
| 05:59.28 | Gnarfoz | what |
| 05:59.41 | Recompense | I didn't think it mattered, I thought events had global parameters |
| 06:00.03 | MentalPower | "it can't do what it's supposed to do, even if it's free from syntax errors ;)" <-- or do you mean the event var |
| 06:00.08 | Gnarfoz | huh?! |
| 06:00.12 | Gnarfoz | I mean his *code* |
| 06:00.23 | MentalPower | hide the menubar? |
| 06:00.25 | Gnarfoz | "event" is not defined at the time his function checks for it :) |
| 06:00.35 | MentalPower | event is a global |
| 06:00.36 | Recompense | Event should be defined when the registered event fires |
| 06:00.54 | Gnarfoz | hrm |
| 06:01.00 | Recompense | Yeah event arguments are global |
| 06:01.04 | MentalPower | although, you should not use the globals |
| 06:01.12 | MentalPower | they're deprecated and might be going away |
| 06:01.14 | Recompense | Yeah, they're taking them out aren't they |
| 06:01.24 | Gnarfoz | wonder why every example I've seen defines them explicitly, then... |
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| 06:01.31 | Recompense | Because it's better practice |
| 06:01.35 | Recompense | I'm just mucking around atm |
| 06:01.37 | MentalPower | Gnarfoz: cause its good practice |
| 06:01.43 | MentalPower | and faster |
| 06:01.56 | Gnarfoz | poitn is |
| 06:01.58 | Gnarfoz | *point is |
| 06:02.13 | Gnarfoz | the event systems seems to always have done it that way |
| 06:02.20 | Gnarfoz | why are the global vars even there? |
| 06:02.21 | MentalPower | nop |
| 06:02.40 | MentalPower | the *globals* have always been there, the params were added with 2.0 |
| 06:02.55 | Gnarfoz | huh...? |
| 06:03.02 | Recompense | Anyway, the code is fine when I run it in WoWLua, but it won't load through my .toc (yes, it's checked, yes the .toc points to the .lua) |
| 06:03.12 | Gnarfoz | you keep saying "won't load" |
| 06:03.14 | MentalPower | Recompense: restarted WoW? |
| 06:03.17 | Recompense | Yup |
| 06:03.18 | Gnarfoz | I already asked: what's not working |
| 06:03.35 | Recompense | what's not working is the code doesn't appear to run at all |
| 06:03.53 | Recompense | there's still a leftover debug chatmessage sent in the pastey from when I was trying to figure out what is and isn't working |
| 06:03.55 | MentalPower | Recompense: add a ChatFrame1:AddMessage("I Loaded!") to the end of that file |
| 06:03.57 | Gnarfoz | all of it is event based right now, how are you checking if it's been run? |
| 06:04.04 | Recompense | there's a chatmessage |
| 06:04.30 | MentalPower | I don't see one |
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| 06:04.52 | MentalPower | 92314? |
| 06:04.54 | Gnarfoz | also, are you sure you're looking at ChatFrame1 ingame? |
| 06:04.59 | Recompense | My bad, misinterpreted something you said - it showed "I Loaded!" |
| 06:05.08 | Recompense | Yup, it's a dummy toon I have parked somewhere quiet for addon testing |
| 06:05.27 | Recompense | So it's loading but the events aren't registered somehow? |
| 06:05.28 | MentalPower | so the code is loading? |
| 06:05.47 | Recompense | Yeah from the .toc and .lua so that's not the problem |
| 06:06.21 | MentalPower | add an AddMessage(type(event)) to the start of your OnEvent() |
| 06:06.31 | Recompense | But even still, why would copying the code from the .lua into WoWlua and running it produce different behavior than loading from the .lua itself? |
| 06:06.33 | Recompense | K let's see |
| 06:07.26 | Recompense | returns string |
| 06:07.32 | Recompense | only after i load it through WoWLua |
| 06:07.47 | MentalPower | forget about WoWLua for now |
| 06:08.11 | Recompense | Consider it done |
| 06:08.53 | MentalPower | so it prints string when you added that line and say something in area chat |
| 06:09.02 | Recompense | yup |
| 06:09.17 | Recompense | also displays say so i know it was the CHAT_MSG_SAY event that fired |
| 06:09.18 | MentalPower | k, change the AddMessage to AddMessage(event) |
| 06:09.35 | MentalPower | it should print CHAT_MSG_SAY now |
| 06:09.39 | MentalPower | ah, nm that then |
| 06:09.44 | Recompense | Doesn't do anything |
| 06:09.53 | MentalPower | ? |
| 06:10.03 | Recompense | It doesn't return anything if I don't paste the code into WoWLua |
| 06:10.14 | Recompense | It says it loaded |
| 06:10.20 | MentalPower | do you have swatter installed? |
| 06:10.23 | Recompense | But it doesn't seem to register chat events |
| 06:10.25 | Recompense | No |
| 06:10.33 | MentalPower | or another error catcher? |
| 06:10.41 | Recompense | Lua Errors are on too |
| 06:10.43 | Recompense | Nope |
| 06:11.29 | MentalPower | http://zip.norganna.org/libs/!Swatter/!Swatter-latest.zip <--Install |
| 06:11.45 | Thunder_Child | ~swat MentalPower |
| 06:11.58 | Thunder_Child | purl, you're really letting me down today |
| 06:12.11 | MentalPower | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 06:12.11 | purl | beats Thunder_Child severely about the head and shoulders with a rubber chicken |
| 06:12.23 | Recompense | Restarting WoW now |
| 06:12.24 | MentalPower | rubber chickens have many uses :) |
| 06:12.42 | Thunder_Child | ~swat MentalPower |
| 06:12.43 | purl | ACTION swats MentalPower |
| 06:13.01 | MentalPower | why the swat? |
| 06:13.12 | Thunder_Child | swatter... |
| 06:13.16 | Recompense | Reloaded, entered world, "I loaded" string showed successfully |
| 06:14.16 | Thunder_Child | ~swat MentalPower |
| 06:14.16 | purl | ACTION swats MentalPower with a MentalPower swatter |
| 06:14.20 | Thunder_Child | much better |
| 06:14.26 | MentalPower | ~swat Thunder_Child |
| 06:14.26 | purl | ACTION swats Thunder_Child with a Thunder_Child swatter |
| 06:14.30 | MentalPower | lol |
| 06:14.32 | MentalPower | nice |
| 06:14.35 | Recompense | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/92315 is the code that I'm using, cleaned out the errors from the other pastey |
| 06:15.59 | Recompense | Still doesn't behave properly on load, behaves fine if I paste the code in WoWLua |
| 06:16.29 | Recompense | I must be missing something incredibly basic |
| 06:18.05 | MentalPower | change the event addmessage to print arg1 instead |
| 06:18.15 | MentalPower | also, what are you sending exactly |
| 06:18.26 | MentalPower | cause currently your string comparison is case sensitive |
| 06:18.50 | Recompense | I'm sending the exact case match |
| 06:19.51 | Recompense | Loading from resetting the UI: no return on arg1 |
| 06:20.01 | Recompense | Loading from resetting the UI: it returns whatever I type into /say |
| 06:20.08 | Recompense | Errr loading from WoWLua* on the second one |
| 06:20.14 | reqol | could someone help me optimize this table? http://wowi.pastey.net/92316 |
| 06:20.28 | reqol | as you can see, there are plenty of spellIDs with otherwise duplicate entries |
| 06:21.08 | reqol | yeah, I realize it's kind of a mess >_>. be gentle, please. |
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| 06:21.55 | MentalPower | Recompense: if you load from the .lua, does it still display the I'm Loaded message? |
| 06:21.58 | Recompense | Yup |
| 06:22.10 | Recompense | But it doesn't do any of the other behavior |
| 06:22.42 | MentalPower | reqol: this is a file generated out of game right? |
| 06:23.18 | MentalPower | anyways, your answer doesn't change mine |
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| 06:24.04 | Recompense | MentalPower: which is what, again? |
| 06:24.32 | reqol | MentalPower: yes, it's inside of a file outside of any blocks |
| 06:24.39 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202465166&sid=1&pageNo=2#37 I lol'd |
| 06:24.46 | MentalPower | reqol: your only choice if you want to eliminate dupes is to have local table with tokens at the top like dur6true = { Duration = 6, Combo = true } and then use those local tables when you write out the main table like SpellDB = {[1943] = dur6true} |
| 06:25.46 | reqol | good enough for me, thanks : ) |
| 06:25.46 | Elessdy | good old wow drama |
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| 06:27.46 | MentalPower | Recompense: sorry was answering reqol, back to you now |
| 06:28.00 | MentalPower | change the addmessage to just print "OnEvent Called" or somesuch |
| 06:28.21 | Recompense | In the function called during OnEvent? |
| 06:29.28 | Recompense | Doesn't display if I load from .lua, displays fine if I load from WowLua |
| 06:31.30 | MentalPower | you're saving the file and reloading the UI right? |
| 06:31.34 | Recompense | Yup |
| 06:31.44 | MentalPower | just trying to get the obvious out of the way |
| 06:32.31 | MentalPower | the exact same code is running on both the .lua and wowlua right? |
| 06:32.32 | Recompense | Yeah no worries |
| 06:32.45 | Recompense | I am a code newbie but this is simple enough that I didn't think it'd be problematic |
| 06:32.51 | Recompense | Yeah I'm directly copying and pasting |
| 06:34.03 | MentalPower | ok, reload the UI, do not run or load wowlua at all (so its code copy is not loaded) and type /run Lolwut_OnEvent(nil, "CHAT_MSG_SAY", "Spells, begone!", "Recompense") |
| 06:34.53 | Recompense | Outputs OnEvent called to ChatFram1 |
| 06:34.55 | Recompense | e* |
| 06:36.06 | Recompense | Since Lolwut_OnEvent does't have any arguments specified, would that even produce anything relating to its arguments? |
| 06:36.38 | MentalPower | but it does have args specified |
| 06:36.47 | MentalPower | function Lolwut_OnEvent(self,event,arg1,arg2) |
| 06:37.39 | MentalPower | anyways, gotta go to bed, sorry I can't help more |
| 06:37.46 | Recompense | Gah my bad, I commented out that definition - with that back it behaves exactly as I want it to do, it hides the frame, generates the ChatMessage in red, and throws the additional debug things out |
| 06:37.55 | Recompense | Aight that gave me some clue - thanks! |
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| 06:38.27 | reqol | damn, I missed him; http://wowi.pastey.net/92318 |
| 06:38.28 | reqol | ah well. |
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| 06:39.06 | bleeter | ok, QA seems to think addons messing with the mailbox MIGHT have something to do with missing mails, according to GMs. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202618333&sid=17 |
| 06:39.42 | cncfanatics | bleeter: sounds weird |
| 06:39.48 | cncfanatics | at worst they could delete the mail before u read it |
| 06:39.49 | MentalPower|ZZzz | reqol: looks good, just make sure you don't edit that table at runtime, since a change to one spell will change all spells that use that same subtable |
| 06:39.58 | cncfanatics | but they shouldn't prevent you from getting it |
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| 06:46.05 | Recompense | OK I solved the issue |
| 06:47.28 | Gnarfoz | can someone tell me why: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/92319 works (2 messages per addon) while http://wowuidev.pastey.net/92320 doesn't (1 message per addon)? o_O |
| 06:47.58 | Gnarfoz | lua manual says: if exp then block elseif exp then block end :\ |
| 06:48.21 | Recompense | That's the syntax, Gnarfoz, let's see |
| 06:49.04 | Recompense | how do you mean 2 messages per addon |
| 06:49.20 | Recompense | oh |
| 06:49.23 | Recompense | in the chat frame |
| 06:49.25 | Gnarfoz | yep. |
| 06:49.36 | Fisker- | :O Gnarfoz |
| 06:49.39 | Fisker- | i almost got owned |
| 06:49.48 | Gnarfoz | I've dumbed it down pretty much already now, but I still can't figure out what's wrong |
| 06:49.53 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: *almost*! |
| 06:50.05 | Fisker- | aoe pulled 7 mobs or so |
| 06:50.10 | Recompense | when are you intending that it display two? |
| 06:50.13 | Fisker- | but some of them had hex |
| 06:50.30 | Fisker- | so almost got killed by that |
| 06:51.20 | Gnarfoz | Recompense: the point is, why is the elseif construct doing something other than another if construct :< |
| 06:51.47 | Recompense | because elseif won't be reached if the initial if conditions aren't met |
| 06:51.54 | Gnarfoz | huh? |
| 06:51.59 | Gnarfoz | that's exactly when it should be reached |
| 06:52.51 | Recompense | yeah sorry, fingers aren't filtering my brain garbage tonight |
| 06:52.57 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 06:53.01 | Gnarfoz | damn |
| 06:53.03 | Gnarfoz | >_> |
| 06:53.09 | Gnarfoz | lua> "asdf" |
| 06:53.10 | lua_bot | Gnarfoz: asdf |
| 06:53.14 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 06:53.15 | Recompense | looks like http://wowuidev.pastey.net/92320 needs another end |
| 06:53.36 | Gnarfoz | huh? no, it's syntax error free |
| 06:54.06 | Gnarfoz | lua> if "asdf" then return "foo" end |
| 06:54.07 | lua_bot | Gnarfoz: foo |
| 06:54.11 | Gnarfoz | >_< ok |
| 06:54.13 | Gnarfoz | problem solved |
| 06:54.32 | Gnarfoz | it needs to be if event == "foo" or event == "bar" or event == "baz" |
| 06:54.43 | Recompense | ... yes |
| 06:54.46 | Gnarfoz | instead of just event == "foo" or "bar" or "baz" |
| 06:55.02 | Recompense | yeah i should have caught that but i'm clearly not making much sense tonight anyway! |
| 06:55.13 | Gnarfoz | any existing string evaluates to "true" on its own ^^ yay solved |
| 06:55.21 | Recompense | yup |
| 06:55.25 | Recompense | congrats |
| 06:56.00 | Recompense | Aight thanks for your input earlier though too |
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| 07:18.28 | Cairenn | net split! |
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| 07:22.50 | cncfanatics | Cairenn: I blame you |
| 07:22.56 | Cairenn | well duh |
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| 07:25.02 | Thunder_Child | ~burn Fisker- |
| 07:25.02 | purl | ACTION pours gasoline all over Fisker-, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze |
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| 07:36.03 | Fisker- | ~kiss Thunder_Child |
| 07:36.03 | purl | ACTION forces Thunder_Child to give ncopystrig a big kiss on the lips |
| 07:37.11 | Thunder_Child | carefull Fisker-, i made something just for you |
| 07:37.45 | Thunder_Child | at some point i shall have to whip it out |
| 07:41.05 | Fisker- | ~kiss Thunder_Child |
| 07:41.05 | purl | ACTION forces Thunder_Child to give |pez| a big kiss on the hand |
| 07:41.49 | Fisker- | try and stop me |
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| 07:42.52 | Thunder_Child | ~swat Fisker- |
| 07:42.53 | purl | ACTION swats Fisker- with a Fisker- swatter |
| 07:43.04 | Fisker- | try and stop me |
| 07:43.05 | Fisker- | ~kiss Thunder_Child |
| 07:43.06 | purl | ACTION forces Thunder_Child to give Dotted a big kiss on the ear |
| 07:43.15 | Thunder_Child | ~smoke Fisker- |
| 07:43.15 | purl | ACTION rolls up Fisker-, lights a match, kicks back and enjoys the noxious fumes |
| 07:43.43 | Fisker- | ~kiss Thunder_Child |
| 07:43.44 | purl | ACTION forces Thunder_Child to give haste a big kiss on the hand |
| 07:44.26 | Thunder_Child | ~sweep Fisker- |
| 07:44.27 | purl | ACTION grabs a giant broom and sweeps Fisker- into a hole and covers it with thunder_child 's rock |
| 07:45.12 | Fisker- | ~kiss Thunder_Child |
| 07:45.13 | purl | ACTION forces Thunder_Child to give Tenchworks a big kiss on the neck |
| 07:45.41 | Thunder_Child | ~epic fail Fisker- |
| 07:45.41 | purl | Fisker-, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you Fisker-, you are that epic failure. |
| 07:45.54 | Kalroth | Geez, take it to private, lovers! |
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| 07:46.06 | Kalroth | Like Cairenn and I do! |
| 07:49.13 | cncfanatics | Thunder_Child: nice one :o |
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| 07:51.10 | Thunder_Child | cncfanatics, ty |
| 07:51.20 | Fisker- | ~epic fail Thunder_Child |
| 07:51.21 | purl | Thunder_Child, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you Thunder_Child, you are that epic failure. |
| 07:51.26 | Fisker- | OMG IT WORKS FOR ME AS WELL |
| 07:51.34 | Fisker- | You are not the superbeing you claim to be |
| 07:51.42 | Thunder_Child | i am in all things fair |
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| 08:12.33 | Gnarfoz | is there a way to mark an addon as an "addon" to another addon (...needs more "addon") on WoWI? |
| 08:13.02 | Gnarfoz | to make the "this file is an addon for XYZ" text show up |
| 08:13.18 | Cairenn | go to the main one, choose upload plugin |
| 08:13.48 | Cairenn | on the optional files tab |
| 08:13.49 | Thunder_Child | lol, the chicken is good...but i think it needs a bit more addon |
| 08:13.55 | Gnarfoz | erm I forgot the "for an already uploaded addon" part |
| 08:14.29 | Gnarfoz | I originally created it from projects -> svn |
| 08:14.39 | Cairenn | you give me the link of the one you need changed to a plugin and you give me the link to the one you want it to plugin to |
| 08:15.07 | Gnarfoz | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9162-FuBar_ItemRackFu.html is a plugin for http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4571-FuBar3.0.html |
| 08:16.13 | Cairenn | fixed :) |
| 08:17.35 | Gnarfoz | <3 |
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| 08:17.53 | Wraanger | heya |
| 08:17.57 | Cairenn | hi |
| 08:19.00 | Wraanger | question - I am atm trying to alter an appearance of QuestWatchFrame a bit ... moving is no problem ... BUT... how can I change the font used ? can't find anything on that in WoWWiki =( |
| 08:19.32 | batrick | I think you have to change the fonts of all its FontString children, but I could be wrong |
| 08:22.17 | Wraanger | umm ...tbh, dunno what I should do for that ... I am not that good with all those string thingies =( |
| 08:22.44 | batrick | is QuestWatchFrame part of teh default UI? |
| 08:23.03 | Wraanger | yep |
| 08:23.47 | batrick | well, you'll want to recursively change the font of its children |
| 08:26.18 | batrick | something like: function setfont(frame) for i,frame in ipairs({frame:GetChildren()}) do if frame:IsObjectType("FontInstance") then frame:SetFont(...) end if frame:IsObjectType("Frame") then setfont(frame) end end end |
| 08:28.55 | Wraanger | mm..lemme try |
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| 08:29.54 | batrick | Wraanger: you will obviously need to change the arguments to SetFont() to what you want. And you execute the above function by running that code and then doing setfont(QuestWatchFrame) |
| 08:30.10 | Wraanger | yeah ... that I understand |
| 08:30.21 | batrick | ok cool :) |
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| 08:35.44 | bleeter | damn, tekkub left. had been looking to give thanks for the TG changes |
| 08:35.50 | bleeter | must remember next time |
| 08:35.56 | Gngsk | what kinda changes were those? |
| 08:36.20 | cncfanatics | bleeter: what changes ? |
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| 08:56.40 | foxlit | Hm, I wonder |
| 08:57.15 | foxlit | Someone should implement SecureStateHeader using the new RetrictedEnvironment framework, and cheer for compatibility |
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| 09:00.59 | cncfanatics | foxlit: the securestateheader is a huge pain in the arse |
| 09:01.07 | cncfanatics | I think most people will be very happy to be able to move away from it |
| 09:01.09 | cncfanatics | (at least I will) |
| 09:01.39 | foxlit | You're missing one critical thing: it _works_ |
| 09:01.56 | cncfanatics | kinda |
| 09:02.22 | cncfanatics | ever tried to setup rotating groups or popup groups with it ? |
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| 09:02.53 | foxlit | I haven't had the need to :) |
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| 09:04.20 | laeg | i configured perl unit frames, trinket menu, necb, gonffbar and cooldowntogo yesterday but when i logged on today they were all restored to default |
| 09:05.04 | laeg | how can i prevent this from happening? i did doa a /reloadui last night before having to reset them again also because i got a beql error and i thought the command would just refresh the ui and clear the error, but instead it reset everything to default |
| 09:07.00 | Cairenn | laeg: what OS are you using? did you check to make sure that the WTF folder hasn't been set to read-only? |
| 09:08.44 | laeg | Cairenn: i'm on ubuntu linux and i didn't lose any of my auctioneer data |
| 09:09.42 | Cairenn | did you have to type in your account name as well as password the next time you logged in? |
| 09:09.47 | Cairenn | or did it hold that? |
| 09:10.09 | laeg | had to type in |
| 09:10.13 | laeg | sorry |
| 09:10.18 | laeg | had accountname, had to type password |
| 09:10.28 | Cairenn | ah, okay, not that then |
| 09:10.40 | Cairenn | not sure |
| 09:11.14 | laeg | :) |
| 09:11.15 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7475663614 |
| 09:11.27 | laeg | i need to update outfitter so i'll have to risk it |
| 09:11.31 | Cairenn | most of what you've said rules out the stuff in that thread |
| 09:11.42 | laeg | i'll have a read |
| 09:11.43 | Cairenn | but might be something there for you to look at |
| 09:12.00 | laeg | btw do you know a mod for group avatars |
| 09:12.06 | laeg | erm group frames and avatars more like |
| 09:12.22 | laeg | i can resize them with perl unit frames but is there a way to keep them tidy and small |
| 09:13.06 | laeg | i want to be able to see who's in my group in bgs but i'd rather the frames very very small and tidy and out of the way |
| 09:13.27 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/cat21.html |
| 09:13.31 | laeg | tyvm :) |
| 09:14.07 | laeg | Cairenn: which one their are many? |
| 09:14.08 | Cairenn | best bet is just to look around, try different ones out until you find one you like |
| 09:14.13 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 09:14.29 | laeg | kk :P |
| 09:16.23 | Cairenn | Trinity Bars, Perl Classic, Bongos2, Bartender3, X-Perl are all very popular unit frames |
| 09:16.59 | Wraanger | batrik: have tried to use that func .. font not changing ((( |
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| 09:22.22 | batrick | !api GetRegions |
| 09:22.22 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'GetRegions'. |
| 09:22.26 | batrick | !api Frame:GetRegions |
| 09:22.27 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'Frame:GetRegions'. |
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| 09:26.40 | Kelfarr | is jelly still alive? |
| 09:27.09 | Kelfarr | yeah I just saw |
| 09:27.20 | Cairenn | :) |
| 09:28.15 | Kelfarr | I think I am going to start playing WoW again :S |
| 09:39.35 | Fisker- | o hey |
| 09:39.45 | pb_ee1 | Yo Fisker- |
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| 10:04.40 | Cairenn | Vilkkuu: moved |
| 10:04.49 | Vilkkuu | Cairenn: thanks a bunch |
| 10:04.57 | Cairenn | you're welcome :) |
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| 10:10.52 | frop | hello |
| 10:11.11 | frop | anyone know an "Expose Weakness Uptime" mod? |
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| 10:22.51 | laeg | does anybody know a mod that will autofire escape artist when rooted like hudini used to? |
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| 10:23.30 | laeg | http://wowui.worldofwar.net/?p=mod&m=996 |
| 10:23.46 | laeg | it says it makes the next movement keystroke fire escape artist |
| 10:23.53 | cncfanatics | laeg: none |
| 10:23.55 | cncfanatics | not possible anymore |
| 10:23.57 | laeg | :( |
| 10:23.59 | laeg | noes! |
| 10:24.15 | laeg | i guess it's kind of cheating |
| 10:24.20 | cncfanatics | you should know that, all "smart" (stupid rly) casting based on conditions got scrapped |
| 10:24.28 | laeg | kk |
| 10:24.54 | laeg | what about a mod that makes it blatantly obvious that i've been slowed |
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| 10:25.11 | laeg | i know it's obvious when rooted and frost mage ccd |
| 10:25.12 | cncfanatics | easy enough |
| 10:25.22 | laeg | but in a big mill up it's not so obvious when slowed |
| 10:25.47 | cncfanatics | I have a mod that lights my screen green when miss more mana then innervate restores |
| 10:25.56 | cncfanatics | should be able to do the same for whenthere is a slowing effect on yourself |
| 10:25.58 | laeg | is there some mod that will make escape flash on the screen or play a sound |
| 10:26.01 | [dRaCo] | powerauras |
| 10:26.10 | [dRaCo] | any poweraura-like mod |
| 10:26.23 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: it restores 100% for me =P |
| 10:26.40 | laeg | cncfanatics: is it power aura like? |
| 10:26.43 | laeg | [dRaCo]: ty |
| 10:27.13 | laeg | [dRaCo]: do you have a facourite version? |
| 10:27.25 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: I'm mostly in blues |
| 10:27.27 | cncfanatics | so it doesn't yet for me :p |
| 10:28.50 | [dRaCo] | laeg: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6444-PowerAuras.html here's a download, looks like it doesnt work for 2.4, though |
| 10:29.10 | [dRaCo] | but I'm sure there are other addons capable of doing the same |
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| 10:32.20 | laeg | [dRaCo]: found a continued version on curse, screenshots look impressive |
| 10:32.31 | laeg | http://media.curse.com/adjust_images/resize/750x500/100/425.jpg |
| 10:32.48 | [dRaCo] | nice |
| 10:32.53 | laeg | ROOT SLOW STUN in big capital letters thanks ;) |
| 10:33.03 | laeg | cnc|food: link |
| 10:56.39 | cnc|food | laeg: ? |
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| 11:30.40 | p3lim | anyone know where i can find the chat spam for rolls? |
| 11:30.49 | p3lim | like, in which part of blizzard's code |
| 11:41.10 | Maldivia | it's the chat_msg_system event, iirc |
| 11:41.17 | Maldivia | so that would be chatframe.lua |
| 11:43.05 | Maldivia | chat_msg_loot aswell |
| 11:43.47 | Maldivia | depending on which kind of rolls you're refering to |
| 11:57.02 | frop | anyone using Cheeky's sheet for hunters dps? |
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| 12:19.27 | p3lim | Maldivia: Player rolls x (x-100) |
| 12:19.34 | p3lim | the chat msg output |
| 12:19.46 | p3lim | trying to add something to that line |
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| 12:19.52 | Maldivia | p3lim: a need/greed roll, or a /random roll? |
| 12:19.58 | p3lim | random |
| 12:20.04 | Maldivia | then it's chat_msg_system |
| 12:20.09 | p3lim | ill take a look |
| 12:21.55 | Maldivia | might want to take a look atteh global variable: RANDOM_ROLL_RESULT |
| 12:22.15 | Maldivia | it contains the format string used to generate the message |
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| 12:23.34 | Maldivia | (note: the message is not generated in the lua code, the event contains the generated message) |
| 12:25.52 | p3lim | yeah |
| 12:26.24 | p3lim | taking a look at teknicolor atm, it grabs the 'Unit has gone offline.' to change it |
| 12:26.38 | p3lim | need the proper string.match |
| 12:27.13 | p3lim | string.match("^(%S+) rolls %d+ (%d+ - %d+).") |
| 12:27.22 | p3lim | something among those lines i think |
| 12:29.01 | Maldivia | there is no whitespaces next to the hyphen in the parenthesis, and you need to escape the parenthesis aswell |
| 12:29.22 | p3lim | hyphen = ? |
| 12:29.28 | Maldivia | - |
| 12:29.39 | p3lim | ah |
| 12:29.40 | Maldivia | dash, minus |
| 12:29.51 | p3lim | unfamiliar word :p |
| 12:32.11 | Maldivia | well, in the above case it's an "en dash" apparently :) |
| 12:34.57 | p3lim | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/92342 |
| 12:35.07 | p3lim | something like that would work? |
| 12:36.25 | p3lim | what im trying to do is to add the guild rank name of the player that rolled to the same line, if possible ofcourse |
| 12:36.31 | Maldivia | you cna't use the random_roll_result directly |
| 12:37.02 | foxlit | "AddMEssage" |
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| 12:38.34 | Maldivia | hmm, relying on event and arg2 being available in a non event-handler is not very nice :) |
| 12:40.03 | p3lim | tell that to tekkub, im doing this after a part of teknicolor |
| 12:43.49 | p3lim | probably quite wrong, but here is the idea: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/92343 |
| 12:44.24 | Maldivia | yeah - somewhat :) |
| 12:44.47 | Slakah | arn't they removing the global "event"? |
| 12:45.08 | Josh_Borke | when was the last time teknicolor was updated? |
| 12:45.08 | p3lim | in wotlk i think |
| 12:45.17 | p3lim | Josh_Borke: uhm 8 days ago |
| 12:45.47 | Josh_Borke | well then tek is just an idiot |
| 12:45.50 | p3lim | lol |
| 12:46.01 | p3lim | know a better way of doing what I want? |
| 12:46.53 | Maldivia | pre-hook ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler, and handle it yourself |
| 12:49.02 | Josh_Borke | hm, that's quite a predicament |
| 12:50.03 | p3lim | Maldivia: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/92344 |
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| 12:50.19 | p3lim | right? |
| 12:50.49 | Maldivia | something like that, yeah |
| 12:51.04 | p3lim | just gotta get some proper "stuff" to put in heh |
| 12:51.13 | Maldivia | although, add event to the function decleration, so you use the local variable |
| 12:51.17 | p3lim | never hooked a chat message like this before |
| 12:51.37 | Maldivia | function ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler(event, ...) --- for 3.0: (self, event, ...) |
| 12:52.17 | p3lim | yeah |
| 12:52.23 | p3lim | 3.0? |
| 12:52.26 | Maldivia | wotlk |
| 12:53.42 | Maldivia | to convert RANDOM_ROLL_RESULT to a parse string, you ca do something like: |
| 12:53.57 | Maldivia | local parseString = RANDOM_ROLL_RESULT:gsub("%(", "%%("):gsub("%)", "%%)"):gsub("%%d", "%%d+"):gsub("%%s", "(%%S+)"); |
| 12:54.03 | p3lim | ah havent looked much at the diff for 3.0 yet |
| 12:54.35 | Maldivia | then you should be able to do: local name = parseString:match(text); if name then --[[ it matched, do something with name ]] end |
| 12:56.45 | p3lim | hm |
| 12:59.03 | p3lim | text beeing? |
| 12:59.08 | p3lim | global? |
| 12:59.36 | Maldivia | no, that would be local text = select(1, ...) |
| 13:00.17 | cncfanatics | select 1 does nothing |
| 13:00.19 | cncfanatics | nothing at all |
| 13:00.21 | cncfanatics | use (...) |
| 13:01.24 | Maldivia | hehe, yeah |
| 13:01.31 | Kaso | hell if your just assigning one variable local text = ... will do |
| 13:01.51 | cncfanatics | if you're using it directly (...):gsub or will do |
| 13:02.19 | Maldivia | p3lim: something like http://wowuidev.pastey.net/92346 |
| 13:02.41 | Maldivia | p3lim: using your previously pasted code as template |
| 13:04.51 | p3lim | Maldivia: 6: bad argument #1 to 'match' (string expected, got nil) |
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| 13:05.58 | cncfanatics | p3lim: no params are passed it seems |
| 13:06.43 | Maldivia | argh, args are not passed in 2.4.3 |
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| 13:07.59 | Drundia | they still often rely on globals in 2.4.3 |
| 13:08.16 | Maldivia | yeah, was looking at 3.0 code :) |
| 13:08.43 | Maldivia | p3lim: try this then: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/92347 -- it's not pretty, it modifies arg1 :) |
| 13:10.24 | Maldivia | also, you might want to add some sanity checks for name, to check that it's legal as unit-id. If the person doing the roll is not in your party/raid you'll get an error message |
| 13:11.05 | Maldivia | if name and pcall(UnitExists, name) then -- should take care of that |
| 13:11.35 | p3lim | but rolls doesnt show from others than me and the people outside of the party/raid, do they? |
| 13:11.40 | cncfanatics | Maldivia: why a pcall ? |
| 13:11.48 | cncfanatics | if name and UnitExists(name) will do just fine |
| 13:12.01 | Maldivia | because UnitExists("cnc") will popup an error box, unless you're in my party |
| 13:12.18 | Maldivia | unless they changed that recently |
| 13:12.36 | p3lim | atm this piece of code doesnt change anything tho |
| 13:12.47 | Drundia | Maldivia, that changed around 2.3 or sometime |
| 13:12.49 | p3lim | still says 'Me rolled 6 (6-100)' |
| 13:13.15 | Maldivia | does it say "You rolled 6..." or "p3lim rolled 6..." ? |
| 13:13.25 | nevcairiel | You |
| 13:13.27 | cncfanatics | lol, how silly |
| 13:13.30 | p3lim | no |
| 13:13.32 | p3lim | p3lim |
| 13:13.36 | cncfanatics | why would a function to check if a unit exists pop up an error box ? |
| 13:13.43 | p3lim | (if my nick was that in that case) |
| 13:13.55 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: because it only accepts valid unit tokens |
| 13:13.55 | Maldivia | cnc: it complains that "cnc" is not a valid unit token |
| 13:14.04 | Drundia | cncfanatics, it used to pop error when supplying a unit name because they weren't valid tokens |
| 13:14.04 | cncfanatics | oh |
| 13:14.10 | p3lim | Unitname rolled 6 (1-100), not You rolled 6 (1-100) |
| 13:14.11 | cncfanatics | I see |
| 13:14.30 | Drundia | well, it doesn't any more... |
| 13:14.32 | cncfanatics | Drundia: does it just accept unitnames now ? |
| 13:14.35 | cncfanatics | or just always return nil ? |
| 13:14.54 | Maldivia | p3lim: hmm, any error messages, or just nothing changed? |
| 13:15.01 | p3lim | nothing changed, no errors |
| 13:15.02 | Drundia | it silently fails for unit names that aren't party/raid members |
| 13:15.13 | cncfanatics | kay |
| 13:15.34 | Maldivia | hey... when did they add chatFilters? |
| 13:15.50 | cncfanatics | 2.4 |
| 13:16.05 | Maldivia | ok, that's a lot nicer than pre-hooking |
| 13:17.43 | Maldivia | p3lim: I'll just add a new version that use filters instead of a hook :9 |
| 13:17.55 | p3lim | ok :p |
| 13:18.06 | p3lim | 3 diffrent approaches to this now heh |
| 13:18.50 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 13:20.07 | Maldivia | p3lim: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/92349 instead of the hook |
| 13:20.25 | p3lim | ill try |
| 13:22.19 | p3lim | you forgot the parseString, but used the one from earlier.. anyways still no diffrence in the output, no error |
| 13:24.12 | Maldivia | hmm |
| 13:24.46 | wereHamster | wow, at some point my cpu was 108% idle, http://dbservice.com/ftpdir/tom/cpu-idle.png |
| 13:25.29 | Maldivia | p3lim: just a sec :) |
| 13:25.36 | p3lim | sure :) |
| 13:25.50 | p3lim | thanks for helping btw :) |
| 13:25.58 | Maldivia | p3lim: ok, change function(event) to function(arg1) :9 |
| 13:27.04 | p3lim | nope, nothing |
| 13:27.16 | Maldivia | hmm |
| 13:28.18 | p3lim | tried changing text to arg1 too |
| 13:28.56 | Maldivia | text? where |
| 13:32.50 | Maldivia | doh... found the problem :) |
| 13:33.08 | cncfanatics | anyone able to test some code for me for fb2 ? |
| 13:33.46 | Maldivia | p3lim: it should be arg1:match(parseString), not the other way around :) |
| 13:34.15 | Josh_Borke | Maldivia: are you sure the AddMessageEventFilter doesn't pass arguments? |
| 13:34.30 | Josh_Borke | hm, i guess i should read the convo before commenting |
| 13:34.31 | p3lim | works! |
| 13:34.55 | Maldivia | Josh_Borke: it pass arg1 |
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| 13:37.04 | Maldivia | Josh_Borke: imo, they should pass ... to the filter function instead of just arg1 :) |
| 13:37.31 | Josh_Borke | agreed |
| 13:37.39 | Josh_Borke | though, you could accept ... |
| 13:37.44 | Josh_Borke | and then assign your own names ;-D |
| 13:38.06 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 13:38.07 | p3lim | Thanks alot Maldivia :D |
| 13:38.28 | Maldivia | p3lim: took a bit longer than expected, because of that stupid error :) |
| 13:38.41 | p3lim | Challenges are fun tho :p |
| 13:39.41 | Maldivia | well, I found out Blizzard added chat filters, a really nice feature actually |
| 13:41.27 | Maldivia | should install wow in this machine, would make this easier ::) |
| 13:42.23 | p3lim | hehe |
| 13:46.50 | malreth | the forums won't let me log in... boo |
| 13:47.17 | Maldivia | the forums have been busy the last 5 hours or so |
| 13:47.53 | malreth | boo, i say. boo |
| 13:50.20 | Josh_Borke | ~lart malreth |
| 13:50.20 | purl | --purges malreth |
| 13:50.52 | malreth | my bowels feel lighter, but my pants heavier |
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| 13:55.12 | malreth | lua> print(string.gsub("abcde", {a="n",b="o",c="p",d="q",e="r"})) |
| 13:55.13 | lua_bot | malreth: luabot:1: bad argument #2 to 'gsub' (string expected, got table) |
| 13:55.29 | malreth | lua> print(string.gsub("abcde", ".", {a="n",b="o",c="p",d="q",e="r"})) |
| 13:55.29 | lua_bot | malreth: nopqr, 5 |
| 13:55.47 | malreth | lua> print(string.gsub("abc de", ".", {a="n",b="o",c="p",d="q",e="r"})) |
| 13:55.47 | lua_bot | malreth: nop qr, 6 |
| 13:56.54 | Maldivia | lazy man's encryption ? :) |
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| 13:57.32 | cncfanatics | one time pad !! |
| 13:57.40 | cncfanatics | thats the best encryption in the world if your pad is different each time :D |
| 13:57.46 | Maldivia | true |
| 13:58.10 | Maldivia | problem is if you want to exchange several gb of data |
| 13:58.24 | Cide | if it wouldn't be different it wouldn't be a one time pad |
| 13:58.25 | Maldivia | burn the key in a dvd and fedex it ? |
| 13:58.39 | Cide | the key length matters more :P |
| 13:59.10 | Maldivia | one time pad key lenght == length of message to encode |
| 13:59.32 | Cide | oh, I suppose |
| 13:59.38 | Cide | screw you. |
| 14:00.20 | malreth | lua>print("\0250 |
| 14:00.20 | lua_bot | malreth: luabot:1: unfinished string near '<eof>' |
| 14:00.25 | malreth | lua>print("\0250") |
| 14:00.25 | lua_bot | malreth: 0 |
| 14:00.37 | Cide | works a lot better here |
| 14:00.38 | malreth | lua>print("\250") |
| 14:00.38 | lua_bot | malreth: ú |
| 14:00.48 | Cide | >>> "\250" |
| 14:00.48 | Cide | Cide: "\250" |
| 14:01.20 | malreth | trying to figure out how to squeeze a utf8 encoded string in there... |
| 14:01.46 | Maldivia | \xxx\yyy\zzz for a 3-char utf8 |
| 14:02.41 | malreth | i need to convert the octet sequence into utf8... |
| 14:03.31 | Maldivia | the reverse questionmark ? |
| 14:04.49 | malreth | basically, the equivalent in lua of \x2144 |
| 14:05.00 | malreth | for the upside down Y thing |
| 14:05.19 | malreth | lua>"\x2144" |
| 14:05.20 | lua_bot | malreth: x2144 |
| 14:05.25 | Kalroth | lol |
| 14:05.30 | malreth | lua>"\x144" |
| 14:05.30 | lua_bot | malreth: x144 |
| 14:05.33 | malreth | lua>"\144" |
| 14:05.33 | lua_bot | malreth: |
| 14:06.15 | Kalroth | lua>"\2144" |
| 14:06.16 | lua_bot | Kalroth: Ö4 |
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| 14:06.24 | Maldivia | \033\068 ? |
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| 14:08.55 | malreth | lua>"\033\068" |
| 14:08.55 | lua_bot | malreth: !D |
| 14:09.33 | Maldivia | lua>"\226\133\132" |
| 14:09.34 | lua_bot | Maldivia: â
|
| 14:10.50 | malreth | u a winn! |
| 14:11.58 | malreth | is there an easier way for me to get those results without having to ask you for each one? |
| 14:12.13 | Maldivia | http://www.eki.ee/letter/chardata.cgi?ucode=2144 -- lower left corner you'll see the utf8 sequence |
| 14:12.21 | Maldivia | convert from hex to decimal |
| 14:12.44 | Maldivia | add backslashed, vupti :) |
| 14:13.13 | malreth | yom |
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| 14:18.00 | malreth | print(string.gsub("abc de", ".", {a="\201\144",b="q",c="\201\148",d="q",e="\199\157"})) |
| 14:18.20 | malreth | lua> print(string.gsub("abc de", ".", {a="\201\144",b="q",c="\201\148",d="q",e="\199\157"})) |
| 14:18.21 | lua_bot | malreth: ÉqÉ qÇ, 6 |
| 14:18.33 | malreth | close enough to work with for now |
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| 14:19.43 | malreth | lua> print(string.gsub(string.reverse("abc de"), ".", {a="\201\144",b="q",c="\201\148",d="q",e="\199\157"})) |
| 14:19.43 | lua_bot | malreth: Çq ÉqÉ, 6 |
| 14:20.03 | cncfanatics | malreth: wtf are you doing ? |
| 14:20.27 | malreth | lua> print(string.gsub(string.reverse("abc de"), ".", {a="\201\144",b="q",c="\201\148",d="p",e="\199\157"})) |
| 14:20.28 | lua_bot | malreth: Çp ÉqÉ, 6 |
| 14:20.37 | malreth | it prints the string upside down using unicode |
| 14:20.52 | malreth | see? |
| 14:20.59 | clad|away | ~upsidedown monkey butt! |
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| 14:21.12 | malreth | yes... but this does it in lua |
| 14:21.14 | clad|away | :P |
| 14:21.22 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 14:21.24 | clad|away | i know, was just playin |
| 14:21.25 | malreth | can't run silly perl scripts in WoW |
| 14:21.32 | cncfanatics | didn't even know there were reverse chars in unicod |
| 14:21.37 | cncfanatics | why do you even want that ? |
| 14:21.58 | wereHamster | purl cheats, she prints a b as a q |
| 14:22.03 | malreth | why do men climb mountains |
| 14:22.12 | cncfanatics | malreth: cuz they're bored |
| 14:22.16 | malreth | bingo |
| 14:22.56 | malreth | ~upsidedown lloyd |
| 14:23.17 | cncfanatics | ~upsidedown why made this damn ~upsidedown command ? |
| 14:23.51 | malreth | the disappointing thing? |
| 14:23.57 | malreth | ~upsidedown puÉɯɯoÉ uÊopÇpı̣sdnâ¼ uɯÉp sÄ±Ì£É¥Ê ÇpÉɯ ÊÉ¥Ê |
| 14:24.02 | malreth | heh |
| 14:24.11 | cncfanatics | okay, it sucks |
| 14:24.15 | cncfanatics | ~fail purl |
| 14:24.15 | purl | purl, you Fail! |
| 14:24.15 | malreth | lol |
| 14:24.18 | cncfanatics | at LEAST do the real thing |
| 14:24.55 | cncfanatics | ~upsidedown ?Ê¥É? ?É?d?? ?ʥɣ̱?s d?ɯ?n ???ups?̱?d??do??n ??o?ɯÉ?nd |
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| 14:25.59 | Atriace | ~ping |
| 14:26.00 | purl | pong |
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| 14:30.44 | pb_ee1 | ~pong |
| 14:30.45 | purl | ping |
| 14:30.48 | pb_ee1 | :D |
| 14:31.24 | Drundia | ~ping pong |
| 14:31.25 | purl | pong pong |
| 14:31.30 | pb_ee1 | ~ping ping |
| 14:31.31 | purl | pong ping |
| 14:31.37 | pb_ee1 | ~pong pong |
| 14:31.38 | purl | pong: PONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 14:31.41 | pb_ee1 | omg |
| 14:32.01 | pb_ee1 | purl is so awesome. :'( |
| 14:32.04 | Drundia | ~pong q |
| 14:32.05 | purl | q: PONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 14:32.09 | Drundia | ~ping q |
| 14:32.09 | purl | pong q |
| 14:32.17 | pb_ee1 | :( |
| 14:32.28 | pb_ee1 | ~Drundia |
| 14:33.20 | Drundia | ~purl |
| 14:33.21 | purl | ACTION purrs. |
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| 14:47.22 | malreth | lua>print(string.byte("â
")) |
| 14:47.22 | lua_bot | malreth: 226 |
| 14:47.54 | malreth | lua>print(string.byte("â
"), 1, 2) |
| 14:47.54 | lua_bot | malreth: 226, 1, 2 |
| 14:48.09 | malreth | lua>print(string.byte("â
", 1, 2)) |
| 14:48.10 | lua_bot | malreth: 226, 133 |
| 14:48.48 | AckisWork | Ã |
| 14:49.15 | Slakah | Is there any reason why an tga created in gimp wouldn't work in wow? |
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| 14:52.45 | Atriace | Slakah: are you getting a simple green box? |
| 14:52.45 | malreth | numerous reasons |
| 14:52.52 | malreth | none of them limited to just Gimp |
| 14:53.21 | Slakah | Atriace: nope |
| 14:53.36 | Atriace | Then define "not work" |
| 14:53.49 | Slakah | I've tried with a different tga and the frame is visible |
| 14:54.08 | Slakah | when I change the path to my tga it fails to show but no error |
| 14:54.47 | Atriace | If you're not getting a green box, and your able to show another image under the same object-space, then WoW is finding the image. |
| 14:54.59 | Atriace | My guess is your alpha channel is all black. |
| 14:55.11 | Atriace | Ergo the image shows, but the image is invisible defacto. |
| 14:55.29 | Slakah | ah ok |
| 14:57.33 | AckisWork | say that sentence 10x fast... nice word usage Atriace |
| 14:57.42 | Drundia | did you restart wow after putting new file? |
| 14:58.17 | Atriace | Drundia is wise. Drundia would also be right. |
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| 15:01.23 | pb_ee1 | Slakah: the tga should be a specified size, shouldn't be? |
| 15:01.35 | pb_ee1 | something like a multiple of 2 for height & width |
| 15:01.50 | Beladona | power of 2, yes |
| 15:01.53 | pb_ee1 | +it for first sentence, -specified, specific |
| 15:01.58 | pb_ee1 | argh |
| 15:03.28 | Drundia | yes power of 2 and width:height ratio should be between 1:8 and 8:1 (or was it 16?) |
| 15:04.26 | Slakah | Ahh I didn't do the power of 2 thing |
| 15:04.31 | Slakah | Thanks |
| 15:05.41 | Atriace | Slakah: you can't go beyond 512 though. |
| 15:05.47 | Slakah | ok |
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| 15:27.35 | |Jelly| | Anyone know the respawn time on ... the auctioneers? |
| 15:27.49 | Slakah | fast |
| 15:27.58 | |Jelly| | good |
| 15:28.19 | Lopeppeppy | Bastiches having fun in your cities, |Jelly|? |
| 15:28.37 | |Jelly| | *shrug* We killed him but still. |
| 15:28.52 | |Jelly| | What did he think was gonna happen? You kill the whole reason we came to Org. |
| 15:38.51 | cogwheel | ~tickle the channle |
| 15:38.51 | purl | ACTION jumps on the channle, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!" |
| 15:39.00 | cogwheel | ~lart my spelling |
| 15:39.00 | purl | DoSes my spelling |
| 15:41.13 | |Jelly| | ~hug cogwheel |
| 15:41.13 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on cogwheel and suddenly hugs cogwheel tightly |
| 15:42.40 | Lopeppeppy | ~tickle cogwheel |
| 15:42.41 | purl | ACTION jumps on cogwheel, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!" |
| 15:42.56 | Atriace | purl never gets old. |
| 15:43.13 | Lopeppeppy | I do love purl, she's a good girlfriend. |
| 15:43.19 | Atriace | she? |
| 15:43.26 | Atriace | purl = her? |
| 15:43.43 | Lopeppeppy | Purl has various adaptabilities, but is generally accepted as being female. |
| 15:43.44 | purl | Lopeppeppy: what are you talking about? |
| 15:43.59 | Lopeppeppy | If you ask her, sometimes she's a she, sometimes she's a whale... adaptable. |
| 15:46.59 | cogwheel | ~purl |
| 15:47.00 | purl | ACTION purrs. |
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| 15:47.55 | Cralor` | what do yall use for FTP client? |
| 15:48.16 | cogwheel | ssh -> screen -> irssi |
| 15:48.23 | cogwheel | (ssh being putty on windows) |
| 15:48.56 | Cralor` | irssi being the best? |
| 15:49.13 | cogwheel | some would say so |
| 15:49.14 | Diskmaster | filezilla here |
| 15:49.20 | cogwheel | i also like chatzilla |
| 15:49.27 | Diskmaster | only because I'm shell-newb |
| 15:49.46 | cogwheel | Diskmaster: i am too... took me about a week to finally get this all working the way i wanted >< |
| 15:49.57 | Diskmaster | cog: What distro are you using? |
| 15:50.02 | cogwheel | ubuntu |
| 15:50.08 | Diskmaster | os[Linux 2.6.26-zenmini x86_64] distro[Gentoo Linux "~amd64"] cpu[2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6850 @ 3.00GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 3.00GHz] mem[Physical: 3.9GB, 69.4% free] disk[Total: 454.5GB, 55.3% free] video[nVidia Corporation GeForce 8400 GS] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia] |
| 15:50.10 | cogwheel | i have it running on a cheapo server box |
| 15:51.28 | cogwheel | i have too many "cant live without"s that don't run under wine |
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| 16:21.10 | cogwheel | forums just die? |
| 16:21.32 | nevcairiel | jup |
| 16:21.41 | nevcairiel | service unavail |
| 16:21.42 | Wikwocket | I didn't do it! |
| 16:22.44 | TecnoBrat | I did! |
| 16:22.45 | cogwheel | denial = confession |
| 16:22.50 | TecnoBrat | errr uhhh wait .... |
| 16:23.09 | cogwheel | i keel joo both |
| 16:23.13 | Kalroth | I'd blame nev to be honest |
| 16:23.28 | nevcairiel | me too |
| 16:26.39 | Cralor` | wow forums? |
| 16:26.47 | cogwheel | seem to be back up now |
| 16:27.11 | TecnoBrat | cogwheel, did you just tell someone what IRC client you used when they asked what FTP client? |
| 16:27.20 | cogwheel | slow and "server busy" |
| 16:27.24 | Cralor` | i think he did |
| 16:27.30 | TecnoBrat | I think he did too |
| 16:27.34 | TecnoBrat | cogwheel is crazy! |
| 16:27.42 | cogwheel | TecnoBrat: caffeine hadn't kicked in |
| 16:27.47 | TecnoBrat | AHHHHHH |
| 16:27.55 | TecnoBrat | Too much blood in your caffeine stream |
| 16:27.57 | cogwheel | filezilla ftw |
| 16:28.01 | TecnoBrat | I have that problem often |
| 16:28.02 | cogwheel | TecnoBrat: agreed |
| 16:28.17 | Cralor` | filezilla? ok |
| 16:28.29 | Cralor` | i used smartftp (awesome) but they switched to paid =( |
| 16:30.52 | Cide | all ftp clients suck unless they have a cached tree view of both local and remote files |
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| 16:31.50 | Cide | and they also suck if said tree view doesn't start at the home folder (i.e. if they start at volume root, FAIL) |
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| 16:39.25 | Wikwocket | I see a binch of new addons in the ROFL category for the contest |
| 16:39.39 | Wikwocket | *bunch, even |
| 16:40.49 | Wikwocket | Been trying to think of a good ROFL addon to write myself |
| 16:41.02 | [Ammo] | I just wrote mine |
| 16:41.10 | [Ammo] | but I need a photoshop guru to improve it :) |
| 16:41.29 | ckknight | rofl kartoffle. |
| 16:41.32 | [Ammo] | wanted to have blood splatters slowly making the screen go red http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9653-TheHurting.html |
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| 16:43.20 | ckknight | lol, [Ammo] |
| 16:43.29 | ckknight | does it pulse or just stay a constant color? |
| 16:43.46 | ckknight | I'd have it pulse faster and faster until you die, that'd be cooler, imo |
| 16:43.56 | ckknight | like a heartbeat |
| 16:44.32 | ag` | haha, seizure attack |
| 16:44.53 | ag` | so when your character dies you go into a coma yourself |
| 16:45.15 | Duman | damn, how long have the forums been kaput? |
| 16:45.42 | Seerah | which forums? |
| 16:45.46 | Duman | wow forums |
| 16:46.45 | Duman | I see a flurry of posts at 8-8:30, but nothing before that until like 3am |
| 16:46.45 | Duman | and nothing after 8:30 |
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| 17:29.17 | malreth | some guy on this one blog post is convinced that Myst was originally a DOS game and was ported to the Mac OS... o_o |
| 17:29.26 | malreth | that's some crazy shit there |
| 17:29.45 | Duman | my friend worked on Myst |
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| 17:30.15 | Josh_Borke | isn't myst that really awesome puzzle game? |
| 17:30.22 | ckknight | yep |
| 17:30.25 | Duman | yeah |
| 17:30.27 | malreth | best selling game of all time until The Sims came out |
| 17:30.28 | ckknight | you walk around and solve puzzles |
| 17:30.29 | Duman | '93 |
| 17:31.12 | Shirik | So on my guild's website we list raid slots that are open |
| 17:31.15 | Shirik | currently we have listed |
| 17:31.34 | Shirik | shaman - 1 (resto), priest - 1 (shadow) |
| 17:31.39 | Shirik | immediately under that is |
| 17:31.45 | Shirik | mage - 2 (dps) |
| 17:31.51 | Shirik | As opposed to the other kinds of mages.... |
| 17:31.56 | Duman | haha, that's what I was thinking |
| 17:31.58 | Lopeppeppy | But my mage is resto! *pouts* |
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| 17:32.07 | Duman | I know some prot mages |
| 17:32.10 | Duman | well, they try to tank, anyway |
| 17:32.16 | Duman | doesn't work out so well |
| 17:32.21 | Josh_Borke | i make a great prot priest |
| 17:32.30 | Josh_Borke | i got the whole, TPS thing down pat |
| 17:32.47 | malreth | mages can tank... for 10 seconds... and only if no one else generates any threat and generally stays a good distance away |
| 17:33.00 | malreth | like... completely outside the instance |
| 17:33.03 | Duman | haha |
| 17:33.09 | Josh_Borke | won't they just die then? |
| 17:33.28 | malreth | notice i didn't say they would tank "well" |
| 17:34.27 | Shirik | anyone know a good tool to generate UML diagrams or other similar constructs? |
| 17:34.32 | Shirik | preferably free |
| 17:34.45 | nevcairiel | good luck finding one |
| 17:34.47 | Dashkal | Shirik: ARgoUML |
| 17:34.48 | nevcairiel | i didnt yet |
| 17:34.53 | nevcairiel | ArgoUML sucks |
| 17:35.02 | Dashkal | He said free. That's about it |
| 17:35.06 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 17:35.23 | Shirik | I said good too! |
| 17:35.26 | Dashkal | Eclipse has a few plugins along those lines, but YMMV |
| 17:35.43 | Shirik | After my experiences trying to get Subclipse to work, I'm not installing more eclipse plugins |
| 17:35.48 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 17:35.59 | Dashkal | Well, if such a tool does exist, do share :p |
| 17:36.09 | Shirik | also, why is pandora sucking |
| 17:36.19 | Dashkal | Damn pandora cutting off canada |
| 17:36.29 | Duman | wtb working wow forums so I have a way to procrastinate |
| 17:36.36 | Duman | otherwise I am in danger of doing work |
| 17:36.45 | Dashkal | Duman: refresh :p |
| 17:37.16 | Shirik | I thought visual studio had some system to help draw class diagrams |
| 17:37.18 | Duman | refresh what? the page? it's still broken :) |
| 17:37.25 | Duman | I mean, it loads |
| 17:37.31 | Duman | can't log in / post |
| 17:37.50 | malreth | when was Warcraft 1 ported to Mac OS or was it a simultaneous release? |
| 17:37.51 | Dashkal | oh |
| 17:37.59 | Dashkal | dunno then. it was giving me a 503 for awhile |
| 17:38.07 | Shirik | Maybe I should just go to school and use rhapsody there |
| 17:38.13 | Shirik | rhapsody is kinda <3 |
| 17:38.31 | Duman | malreth looks like a port |
| 17:38.49 | Duman | DOS version is '94, Mac is '95 |
| 17:38.56 | malreth | ah... source? |
| 17:39.01 | Duman | mobygames |
| 17:39.13 | Duman | http://www.mobygames.com/search/quick?q=warcraft%3A+orcs&p=-1&search=Go |
| 17:40.00 | nevcairiel | anyone having login issues on EU? |
| 17:40.32 | malreth | ok... WCIII was the first game of the series to have a simultaneous release |
| 17:41.57 | Fisker- | ~kiss Shirik |
| 17:41.57 | purl | ACTION forces Shirik to give _Xoc a big kiss on the hand |
| 17:42.03 | Duman | not again |
| 17:42.04 | Shirik | I got an email from the head of my department |
| 17:42.09 | Shirik | All it consists of is: |
| 17:42.10 | Shirik | Behi |
| 17:42.12 | Shirik | er |
| 17:42.17 | Shirik | yay for crappy copy-paste |
| 17:42.21 | Duman | hah |
| 17:42.28 | Shirik | Behi |
| 17:42.30 | Shirik | wtf |
| 17:42.35 | Duman | phail |
| 17:42.39 | Shirik | Anyway, it says "66654 Behi" |
| 17:42.42 | Duman | ~fail Shirik |
| 17:42.43 | purl | Shirik, you Fail! |
| 17:42.44 | Shirik | Behi being his name |
| 17:43.01 | Duman | weird |
| 17:43.54 | Shirik | The subject says "See me" |
| 17:43.58 | Shirik | so.... I guess I'll go see him |
| 17:44.07 | Shirik | I just find his emails odd :P |
| 17:44.07 | p3lim | Cairenn|afk: There? |
| 17:44.09 | Shirik | bbl! |
| 17:44.17 | Shirik|AFK | p3lim: She's asleep, can I do something for you? |
| 17:46.43 | Duman | that's not his extension or soemthing, is it? |
| 17:47.22 | Shirik|AFK | uh |
| 17:47.28 | Shirik|AFK | our extensions are 4 digits so shouldn't be :P |
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| 17:50.49 | kd3 | live-action bebop? |
| 17:50.59 | Duman | o.O |
| 17:52.35 | kd3 | http://www.ifmagazine.com/new.asp?article=6571 |
| 17:52.56 | Thunder_Child | kd3, better than the live action akria with DiCaprio? |
| 17:53.21 | kd3 | I uh... I really dunno |
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| 17:53.27 | Thunder_Child | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1134795/ |
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| 17:59.00 | Thunder_Child | does rapture work when you cast the PW:S on someone else? |
| 18:00.14 | Cide | ... |
| 18:00.18 | Cide | that's the whole point |
| 18:05.09 | ckknight | completely off-topic poll: http://www.curseforge.com/polls/favorite-supervillain/ |
| 18:06.54 | NightHawkAtWork | Dr Horrible clearly needs more votes. |
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| 18:10.38 | laeg | can a script do everything a macro can? |
| 18:10.44 | Shirik | no |
| 18:10.53 | Shirik | unless it were a secure script, which you can't make |
| 18:11.10 | laeg | somebody was talking about using a script to break the 255 character limit |
| 18:11.35 | Shirik | it may be possible depending on what you're trying to do; on another note, it's very possible to make macros that are longer than 255 characters |
| 18:11.41 | Shirik | just not in the built-in UI |
| 18:12.10 | laeg | Shirik: i tried supermacro which all the forums suggest in outdated posts |
| 18:12.16 | laeg | it's no longer being maintained and it doesn't work |
| 18:12.46 | laeg | trinity bars was also mentioned which i'm about to try but i'm hoping i can only use the macro element of it and keep my bars the way they are for the moment |
| 18:12.55 | laeg | Shirik: please elaborate on very possible |
| 18:13.08 | Shirik | The idea is that you need to make a secure frame that has a "macro" attribute |
| 18:13.16 | Shirik | having done that, you can inject a macro of any size |
| 18:13.26 | laeg | could you take me through it? |
| 18:13.42 | Shirik | that's not a simple concept at all :P First, I suggest you review secure frames and how to make them |
| 18:13.50 | laeg | ok |
| 18:13.52 | laeg | :) |
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| 18:14.13 | Shirik | Take alook at http://www.wowwiki.com/Secure_frames_overview |
| 18:14.29 | Shirik | If you can make a secure frame, it's a simple matter of setting its macro attribute |
| 18:14.45 | Shirik | (and setting its type to "macro") |
| 18:14.46 | laeg | Shirik: beat you to that page :P |
| 18:15.16 | laeg | Shirik: ty, i'm on it |
| 18:16.00 | Drundia | i failed to save macros longer than 255 characters by hacking macro frame, macrotext limit is 1023 bytes. notice characters vs bytes... |
| 18:16.07 | Drundia | evil blizzard |
| 18:16.34 | Shirik | I'd be very careful modifying the macro frame |
| 18:16.40 | Shirik | that sounds like asking for taint |
| 18:16.53 | laeg | is taint where they think you're trying to cheat? |
| 18:17.35 | Drundia | you can save macros out of combat with any amount of taint anyway |
| 18:18.02 | Shirik | svn://li123-154.members.linode.com/sec09/trunk |
| 18:18.06 | Shirik | wrong window... |
| 18:18.49 | Shirik | Drundia: Sure, but how far does it spread :) |
| 18:18.56 | Shirik | if it spreads permanently, that's bad |
| 18:20.14 | malreth | as always, you should avoid spreading your taint |
| 18:20.19 | laeg | "These templates, found in FrameXML/SecureTemplates.xml" |
| 18:20.25 | laeg | i don't have either of those files |
| 18:20.30 | Shirik | ~framexml |
| 18:20.31 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/ |
| 18:20.31 | laeg | i do have a framexml.log in my wow dir? |
| 18:20.45 | laeg | ty |
| 18:20.53 | laeg | i can do this :) |
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| 18:21.05 | Lunessa | station. |
| 18:21.33 | laeg | downloading editingui.zip |
| 18:21.45 | Maldivia | that would be the wrong file |
| 18:22.24 | laeg | my bad i got it |
| 18:26.06 | cogwheel | was there some major announcement today or something? Why are the forums so phail today? |
| 18:26.24 | Thunder_Child | cogwheel, full moon? |
| 18:26.36 | Lunessa | because software/hardware fall down go boom? |
| 18:27.12 | Lunessa | Heh, nothing like hearing a voice in your office and turning around to see the had of HR looking at you. |
| 18:27.22 | Shirik | anyone here use rhapsody in c++? |
| 18:28.16 | TecnoBrat | had of HR? |
| 18:28.28 | Thunder_Child | s/had/head/ |
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| 18:30.11 | Lunessa | gah... Head of HR |
| 18:34.18 | laeg | the addon kit's interface art installer keeps freezing at 98% on WorldStateScoreFrame-TopRight.blp |
| 18:34.32 | laeg | nvm |
| 18:34.48 | Shirik | pop quiz for SVN gurus |
| 18:34.53 | Shirik | svn:needs-lock |
| 18:35.00 | Shirik | =true? or what am I supposed to set it to? |
| 18:35.32 | cogwheel | does it just need to be present? |
| 18:35.48 | Shirik | Didn't know it could "just be present" I though all props had to have a value :/ |
| 18:36.14 | Shirik | ah |
| 18:36.17 | Shirik | "The mechanism is a special property, svn:needs-lock. If the property is attached to a file (the value is irrelevant), " |
| 18:36.19 | Lunessa | Don't look at me, I only know CVS |
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| 18:36.50 | Shirik | ok then, I shall return! |
| 18:37.29 | Shirik | grr |
| 18:37.42 | Shirik | Error: 'pre-commit' hook failed with error output: Error: File 'trunk/sercom/sercomLayout.pro' is not of a permitted type |
| 18:37.46 | Shirik | I have outsmarted myself... |
| 18:39.34 | p3lim | anyone got a few min to help me with a piece of code regarding durability? |
| 18:41.44 | p3lim | just wanna track if any items drop to yellor or red durability, i have the slot ids, events etc all sorted out so far |
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| 18:55.01 | Lunessa | http://xkcd.com/453/ |
| 18:55.17 | malreth | http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/07/24/authenticator-fails-removed-from-account-without-users-permiss/ |
| 18:55.35 | malreth | proof yet again that people are the weak link in any chain of security |
| 18:56.17 | Duman | social engineering is strong |
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| 18:57.22 | malreth | p3lim: go on |
| 18:58.39 | p3lim | malreth: the addon? |
| 18:58.47 | malreth | yeah |
| 18:59.10 | malreth | sounds like you got all your ducks in a row |
| 18:59.20 | p3lim | what you mean by that? :p |
| 19:00.00 | p3lim | i wanna recolor the backdrop of my minimap addon by durability |
| 19:00.22 | p3lim | red when something is broken, yellow when something is near-broken and default color when everything is just fine |
| 19:00.51 | malreth | sounds good |
| 19:01.48 | p3lim | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/92376 |
| 19:02.07 | p3lim | this is what I have so far, but i cant get the last piece of code to fit to that, ive tried several aproaches |
| 19:02.48 | p3lim | self:SetBackdropColor(r, g, b) is what im gonna use to recolor btw |
| 19:04.27 | malreth | so all you really want is the item with the lowest current durability with respect to its max durability |
| 19:04.34 | malreth | and then color the minimap based on that |
| 19:04.46 | p3lim | yap |
| 19:05.15 | p3lim | in my mind that would be the best and cleanest way to replace the DurabilityFrame |
| 19:05.21 | p3lim | (armor man) |
| 19:06.40 | p3lim | but I gotta run now, please dont hesitate helping by adding comments or something to that pastey on how I should go forward with the code :) |
| 19:06.44 | p3lim | cyall later tonight |
| 19:13.12 | cncfanatics | how would I make a macro that would mouseover cast on a normal click, self cast on shiftclick, targetcast on ctrl click and focuscast on alt click ? |
| 19:13.22 | cncfanatics | can't rememer the macro syntax --. |
| 19:16.07 | Dashkal | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:16.10 | Thunder_Child | anyone know if the bug/feedback form takes a snapshot of the active addons? |
| 19:16.12 | Dashkal | I think... |
| 19:17.14 | Dashkal | add target=self to the mod:shift |
| 19:21.14 | cncfanatics | finished it, tnx :) |
| 19:21.24 | cncfanatics | 244 chars out of 255 taken |
| 19:21.24 | cncfanatics | close |
| 19:22.14 | Dashkal | heh |
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| 19:37.20 | Kirov | hmm... forum fun |
| 19:38.23 | malreth | http://www.flickr.com/photos/andycarvin/130437233/ |
| 19:38.27 | malreth | T_T |
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| 19:39.19 | Dashkal | O.o |
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| 19:40.47 | cogwheel | is it just me or does http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Re-Cursive seem to be a metaphor for the 2.0 addon lockdown? |
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| 19:41.15 | kamdis | cncfanatics: /cast [mod:shift, target=player][mod:ctrl][mod:alt, target=focus][target=mouseover, exists][] Spell |
| 19:41.23 | kamdis | not target=self |
| 19:41.26 | kamdis | player |
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| 19:42.04 | Dashkal | oops |
| 19:42.14 | kamdis | ;-) |
| 19:42.28 | kamdis | and the non-mod:blah ones have to come last |
| 19:42.28 | Dashkal | Teach me to attempt to write a macro from work |
| 19:42.34 | kamdis | hehehe |
| 19:42.54 | Dashkal | Though I was unaware that order was at all significant |
| 19:43.11 | kamdis | it might not be with mouseover being the default |
| 19:43.22 | kamdis | but it will check in order for conditions |
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| 19:44.23 | kamdis | actually it will in that case. if you had a mouseover and hit it with a modifier, it wouldn't get to the modifier bit. |
| 19:44.27 | kamdis | anyway |
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| 19:46.13 | NightHawkAtWork | I love our qa department. I get a bug because after a 10% discount on a $88.88 purchase ends up with a $79.99 balance, instead of $80. I link them to banker's rounding in the jira issue and mark it as "by design". |
| 19:46.34 | Dashkal | wait a tick, I thought that stuff inside of a single [ ] bracket was ANDed, so they'll always get evaluated until one is false |
| 19:47.03 | kamdis | right |
| 19:47.41 | kamdis | but if you have [target=mouseover, exists][mod:shift, target=player] and you hit shift+key when you have a mouseover target, you won't cast on yourself |
| 19:47.51 | kamdis | you have to put them in reverse order |
| 19:47.52 | Dashkal | ahh, gotcha |
| 19:48.14 | kamdis | inside the [ ] you're right, no matter |
| 19:48.18 | NightHawkAtWork | [ stuff AND stuff] OR [stuff AND stuff] basically, so you'd have to place the []'s in the priority you want |
| 19:48.20 | Dashkal | could solve that either by reordering or by putting nomod after exists |
| 19:48.29 | kamdis | correct |
| 19:48.30 | kamdis | :) |
| 19:48.37 | Dashkal | kk good, not as confused as I feared |
| 19:49.00 | Shirik | NightHawkAtWork? |
| 19:49.07 | NightHawkAtWork | Shirik? |
| 19:49.09 | Shirik | banker's rounding should not go to $79.99... |
| 19:49.34 | NightHawkAtWork | how does 8.888 not round to 8.89? |
| 19:50.24 | Shirik | banker's rounding would take that to the nearest even number tbh :P |
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| 19:50.35 | NightHawkAtWork | er, no? |
| 19:50.37 | Shirik | however I do agree with your analysis of $79.99 being correct |
| 19:51.03 | Shirik | Banker's rounding applies to a .5 value |
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| 19:51.19 | Shirik | it normalizes the fact that .5 would always be rounded "up" by standard, by having .5 round to the nearest even number instead |
| 19:51.31 | Shirik | always rounding .5 up results in a disparity in probability |
| 19:51.36 | NightHawkAtWork | er |
| 19:52.04 | NightHawkAtWork | banker's rounding basically just has a specific way of handling when the digit next to the one being rounded to is a 5. not specifically .5 |
| 19:52.29 | Shirik | ok, not specifically .5, but the digit being rounded, yes |
| 19:52.38 | Shirik | I still don't see how this applies to your case though :P |
| 19:52.40 | NightHawkAtWork | like if it was 8.885, it would round to 8.88, 8.8852, though, would round to 8.89 |
| 19:53.08 | NightHawkAtWork | in the specific case i mentioend, the specific quirk of banker's rounding is relatively meaningless |
| 19:53.15 | Shirik | that's why I asked :P |
| 19:53.25 | NightHawkAtWork | But I linked to that to be precisely clear about the full type of rounding we're using |
| 19:53.29 | Shirik | ah |
| 19:53.32 | Shirik | ok then |
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| 20:08.29 | Lunessa | http://icanhascheezburger.wordpress.com/files/2008/07/funny-pictures-cat-toy-has-a-first-name.jpg |
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| 20:10.14 | malreth | i love watching feminist/PETA fights |
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| 20:23.29 | malreth | ~redenbacher |
| 20:23.44 | malreth | purl, redenbacher is a man who dates younger women. |
| 20:23.44 | purl | malreth: okay |
| 20:23.52 | nevcairiel | Since 2.4.3 i have some weird gfx issue that seems to be UI related |
| 20:24.09 | nevcairiel | I get heavy lag spikes if an addon does alot of :SetVertexColor in a frame |
| 20:24.26 | nevcairiel | like updating 40 frames in an OnUpdate every time |
| 20:24.31 | nevcairiel | worked fine before 2.4.3 :/ |
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| 20:25.04 | nevcairiel | Did anyone else encounter this? |
| 20:25.13 | malreth | i donno |
| 20:25.29 | malreth | i might kinda see why... maybe |
| 20:26.43 | nevcairiel | It never happend before 2.4.3, thats what puzzles me |
| 20:27.36 | nevcairiel | And its _really_ annoying |
| 20:27.43 | nevcairiel | tried plaing with UIFaster setting, but no dice |
| 20:29.07 | malreth | probably some change to how the engine builds its scene graph... if... it even builds one at all... o_O |
| 20:29.11 | malreth | my head's wobbling |
| 20:29.37 | malreth | shit... i'm talking about something that i know nothing about again, aren't i? |
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| 20:32.06 | nevcairiel | but why only me =( |
| 20:32.09 | malreth | actually, no... that doesn't sound right |
| 20:32.11 | malreth | yeah |
| 20:32.23 | Thunder_Child | damit, i hate sented detergent |
| 20:32.39 | malreth | cuz otherwise i'd be getting choppy graphics when in AV with all my pitbull frames up |
| 20:32.40 | nevcairiel | i wanted to check US forums for reports |
| 20:32.43 | nevcairiel | but its down again |
| 20:33.11 | malreth | upgrade to the newest video card drivers |
| 20:33.21 | nevcairiel | did |
| 20:33.25 | nevcairiel | (nvidia) |
| 20:33.42 | malreth | throw away your old busted computer and get a hot new rig |
| 20:34.02 | Thunder_Child | nevcairiel, i assume your talking about system lag spikes and not net ones |
| 20:34.11 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 20:34.17 | nevcairiel | fps go way down |
| 20:34.54 | Thunder_Child | i thought the addons use more ram than cpu cycles |
| 20:35.17 | nevcairiel | I had it happen with Mapster, which changes the color of all raid unit icons on the worldmap |
| 20:35.24 | nevcairiel | and everytime it updates all 40 in one frame |
| 20:35.33 | nevcairiel | i get a lag spike |
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| 20:35.44 | nevcairiel | opening map in av = bad |
| 20:35.54 | Thunder_Child | have you looked at the code? |
| 20:35.58 | nevcairiel | i wrote it |
| 20:35.58 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 20:36.09 | nevcairiel | i even stripped it down |
| 20:36.13 | nevcairiel | to figure out what it is |
| 20:36.30 | nevcairiel | a one-time change of all frames at the same time |
| 20:36.32 | nevcairiel | = lag |
| 20:36.33 | Thunder_Child | is there another option besides :SetVertexColor? |
| 20:36.55 | nevcairiel | Not that i know of |
| 20:36.57 | Thunder_Child | or try doing it in 2 passes |
| 20:37.16 | nevcairiel | Well i would rather figure out why its only happening to me |
| 20:37.20 | nevcairiel | and not other people using mapster |
| 20:37.24 | nevcairiel | so i can fix it |
| 20:38.11 | malreth | to preserve my sanity, i've stopped following @chockenberry on twitter... let the drama commence. |
| 20:38.20 | malreth | oh yeah... no one cares |
| 20:38.26 | Thunder_Child | is there a quick script that can be run that mimics it so others can test? |
| 20:38.45 | nevcairiel | I'll try to create one |
| 20:38.48 | nevcairiel | after raid |
| 20:39.20 | malreth | nevcairiel: write a little script that just randomly changes 40 random textures like that |
| 20:39.32 | nevcairiel | yeah i'll do one |
| 20:39.48 | malreth | you'll help replicate the problem but even better, you'll have a contest entry for the wowinterface.com contest |
| 20:39.55 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 20:40.50 | nevcairiel | i'll just create a 6x6 texture grid and randomly change the colors |
| 20:40.53 | nevcairiel | see what happens |
| 20:44.06 | Kirov | nevcairiel - sounds like you guys are making a new version of Decursive |
| 20:44.21 | nevcairiel | o.O |
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| 20:46.19 | Kirov | http://www.vranx.com/screens/decursive.jpg |
| 20:46.32 | Kirov | "randomly" color changing grid |
| 20:48.12 | selckin | forbidden |
| 20:49.25 | Kirov | http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw6895.jpg |
| 20:51.06 | Shirik | Forbidden |
| 20:51.07 | Shirik | You don't have permission to access /screens/decursive.jpg on this server. |
| 20:51.07 | Shirik | Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. |
| 20:51.10 | Shirik | :< |
| 20:51.17 | Shirik | ~fail Kirov |
| 20:51.17 | purl | Kirov, you Fail! |
| 20:51.24 | Shirik | for having a poorly configured server :P |
| 20:51.30 | Kirov | Works for me, don't know whats wrong with your machines |
| 20:51.42 | Kirov | http://www.vranx.com/combat.htm |
| 20:52.21 | Shirik | oh it's probably the referrer header |
| 20:52.24 | Shirik | that was missing |
| 20:52.35 | Shirik | I can't stand people that rely on the referrer header to provide content.... |
| 20:55.58 | malreth | you |
| 20:56.13 | malreth | you're just lucky they didn't swap the image with that of a penis |
| 20:56.59 | Kirov | or worse |
| 20:57.06 | Kirov | redirect to lemon party |
| 20:57.08 | malreth | bloody nipples? |
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| 20:57.38 | malreth | that would be worse |
| 20:57.47 | malreth | http://duocenti.blogspot.com/2008/07/murlocs-family.html |
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| 21:00.03 | Shirik | seriously, what is the __MACOSX folder I keep seeing |
| 21:00.12 | Shirik | is it invisible to users? |
| 21:00.42 | Kirov | Shirik - when zipping content from a Mac? Yeah, seems to be. |
| 21:01.02 | Shirik | that is incredibly annoying |
| 21:01.22 | Kirov | yeah |
| 21:01.27 | Shirik | Is there any valid reason OSX decides to make every folder also have a file with an identical name? |
| 21:01.33 | Dashkal | malreth: that actually would have been pretty cool if they had kept in character for the PCs |
| 21:01.40 | Shirik | so that foo/bar could both be a directory and a file? |
| 21:02.08 | Shirik | I mean, seriously, that's breaking standards more than Microsoft |
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| 21:02.22 | malreth | Shirik: the Finder makes them |
| 21:02.32 | malreth | it stores metadata in them |
| 21:02.40 | malreth | icon placement, window settings, etc. |
| 21:03.00 | malreth | they're like the desktop.ini files in Windows |
| 21:03.29 | malreth | the finder only makes them on non-hfs file systems |
| 21:04.01 | malreth | there's a way to turn that off for remote filesystems |
| 21:04.20 | nevcairiel | Hm |
| 21:04.25 | malreth | since most people don't like their SMB mounts being littered with .DS_Store droppings |
| 21:04.31 | nevcairiel | the lag doesnt happen if i do it on some blank frames |
| 21:04.35 | nevcairiel | weird |
| 21:05.16 | malreth | nevcairiel: set a texture to the frame and change the vertex colors on that |
| 21:05.32 | nevcairiel | on the frame, you mean? |
| 21:06.46 | malreth | sorry, on the 36 individual frames |
| 21:07.28 | Duman | good lord, forums are still fubar? |
| 21:07.33 | Duman | (wow forums) |
| 21:07.51 | Duman | oh, wait.. guess it's only beta |
| 21:09.04 | Kirov | ui forums are back up |
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| 21:11.41 | Wikwocket | Any dropdown menu gurus available to answer a question? |
| 21:12.16 | Duman | yeah, got in now... must have tested at the "wrong time" ;-) |
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| 21:15.04 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 21:15.05 | cncfanatics | magtheridon is weird |
| 21:15.06 | cncfanatics | I just cut an RED for 100g |
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| 21:19.12 | fridgid | yeah well, if you are able to use vanilla kernel you can prob get away with most software updates without too much work |
| 21:19.19 | fridgid | erm.....wrong window |
| 21:19.49 | Wikwocket | Anyone know a way to assign a function that will run for each item in a dropdown menu, when that item is moused over? |
| 21:24.20 | Duman | hmm |
| 21:24.29 | Duman | can you hook mouseover or whatever? |
| 21:24.46 | Duman | I know you can explicitly call MouseIsOver()... at least per the wiki |
| 21:24.52 | ScytheBlade1 | On what exactly? |
| 21:25.11 | fridgid | i belive you can set each menu items mouseover function to point to the function you want to call |
| 21:25.25 | Wikwocket | you can set the .tooltipText |
| 21:25.36 | Wikwocket | but I was wondering if there was a function you can set too/instead |
| 21:25.38 | ScytheBlade1 | function = frame:GetScript("OnEnter") |
| 21:25.47 | ScytheBlade1 | frame:SetScript("OnEnter", function) |
| 21:26.13 | Wikwocket | is each item in the dropdown menu a frame though? |
| 21:29.00 | Anaral | The curse client beta on curseforge can't find image files (dots and arrows) the error appears every frame (tab, expand catagories, etc) |
| 21:29.22 | Thunder_Child | ~remedial malreth |
| 21:29.22 | purl | ACTION sends malreth back to remedial Sex Ed |
| 21:29.41 | malreth | O_o |
| 21:29.50 | Thunder_Child | of all the random ones....figures |
| 21:30.05 | malreth | ~scone Thunder_Child |
| 21:30.06 | purl | Thunder_Child is not a scone. |
| 21:30.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Huh, according to WoWInsider, someone has been hacked despite having the authenticator bound to the account |
| 21:31.05 | malreth | yep |
| 21:31.18 | Thunder_Child | btw malreth, looks like purl doesnt care about whitespaces so scone can be shortened a bit |
| 21:31.21 | Lunessa | Social Engineering. True hacking of the machine. |
| 21:31.30 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 21:31.47 | malreth | either a Blizzard CS rep was social engineered or the victim was owned by a family member/close friend |
| 21:32.02 | malreth | Thunder_Child: o rly? |
| 21:32.13 | Thunder_Child | malreth, mine isnt |
| 21:32.46 | Thunder_Child | malreth, as far as inside () i mean |
| 21:33.35 | Duman | social engineering is very powerful and dangerous :) |
| 21:33.59 | malreth | the problem is scone needs to choose between 5 "not"s and 1 nothing |
| 21:34.20 | Lunessa | Heh, in the 90s there was a book called "Secrets of a Super Hacker" and 90% of the book is about social engineering. Basically, about how to lie your way past security systems. |
| 21:34.27 | malreth | ~literal cmd: scone (.*?) |
| 21:34.28 | purl | "cmd: scone (.*?)" is "($1): <reply>$1 is( not | not | not | not | not | )a scone." |
| 21:34.35 | Duman | yeah |
| 21:34.41 | Thunder_Child | so (not|not|not|not|not|) |
| 21:34.49 | Thunder_Child | so (not|not|not|not|not| ) maybe |
| 21:35.28 | Wikwocket | The book "The Art of Deception" by "hacker" Kevin Mitnick is mostly about social engineering |
| 21:35.31 | Thunder_Child | oh i see why, you dont have spaces between is( and )a |
| 21:35.36 | Kirov | Most of the time if there's a major hack in to a computer system it's usually because you got your way to some secretary and bullied her until she gave you password information, "damn it, girl, do you know who I am?!" |
| 21:35.43 | malreth | Thunder_Child: you got it |
| 21:36.01 | malreth | otherwise you end up with one too many or no spaces |
| 21:36.11 | Thunder_Child | malreth, wouldnt it be eaiser to make 2 spaces than 6? |
| 21:36.28 | Thunder_Child | oh |
| 21:36.47 | Wikwocket | he made the point that the best security software in the world can be made moot if you don't train people to be security-minded |
| 21:37.15 | Thunder_Child | malreth, i got it... |
| 21:37.56 | malreth | Wikwocket: Bruce Schneier makes that point, too, in his speeches, writing, presentations, etc. |
| 21:38.47 | Wikwocket | yeah it's an interesting way of viewing things, although I can't recommend Mitnick as a good writer |
| 21:38.47 | Kirov | it's almost as if people were trying to make a point ... |
| 21:39.14 | malreth | i wonder if you can nest random choices... |
| 21:39.20 | Kirov | meh, they're probably just morally deprived scoundrals, we should just ignore them. |
| 21:39.24 | Thunder_Child | malreth, yes |
| 21:39.45 | Thunder_Child | ~literal Thunder_Child |
| 21:39.46 | purl | "thunder_child" is "<reply>Thunder_Child is an asshole" |
| 21:39.52 | Thunder_Child | err...wrong one |
| 21:39.59 | Thunder_Child | ~literal emulate Thunder_Child |
| 21:40.00 | purl | "emulate thunder_child" is "<reply>(see emulate1 Thunder_Child|see emulate2 Thunder_Child)" |
| 21:40.05 | Thunder_Child | there |
| 21:40.30 | malreth | ~emulate Thunder_Child |
| 21:40.31 | purl | my parients said i could be come ANYTHING, so i became an asshole |
| 21:41.00 | malreth | ~literal emulate1 Thunder_Child |
| 21:41.00 | purl | "emulate1 thunder_child" is ""(<reply>Let me guess... Your parients are cousins|<reply>Save your breath ...you'll need it to blow up your date|<reply>People like you are the reason people like me need medication)" |
| 21:42.43 | Kirov | ~literal Kirov |
| 21:42.44 | malreth | so something like: <action>(flips a coin and gets (heads|tails)|rolls a die and gets (one|two|three|four|five|six)) doesn't work... |
| 21:43.04 | Thunder_Child | might |
| 21:43.20 | Thunder_Child | give it a try then |
| 21:43.41 | malreth | cogwheel: give that a try for me, would ya? |
| 21:44.30 | cogwheel | rawr? |
| 21:44.34 | amro | malreth: it works |
| 21:44.36 | Shirik | >>> local mt = {}; mt.__gc = function() getmetatable(newproxy(true)).__gc = mt.__gc; error("Lulz u has trojanz"); end getmetatable(newproxy(true)).__gc = mt.__gc; |
| 21:44.37 | Cide | Shirik: nil |
| 21:44.46 | nevcairiel | Does anyone know what "gxFixLag" really does? |
| 21:44.50 | nevcairiel | it costs alot of FPS for me |
| 21:44.59 | nevcairiel | (cvar) |
| 21:45.00 | Shirik | nevcairiel: It fixes lag |
| 21:45.05 | Shirik | i.e., makes lag work properly |
| 21:45.06 | nevcairiel | ~lart Shirik |
| 21:45.06 | purl | executes killall -KILL Shirik |
| 21:45.10 | Shirik | :D |
| 21:45.18 | Kirov | nevcairiel - mainly it makes your computer so slow you don't notice the lag. |
| 21:45.42 | Kirov | aparently |
| 21:45.43 | Shirik | I personally still want to know exactly what violenceLevel does |
| 21:45.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I told you |
| 21:46.01 | Shirik | you told me it has to do with DE |
| 21:46.03 | malreth | ~violence Shirik |
| 21:46.03 | ScytheBlade1 | It's used in Germany to reduce violence levelz |
| 21:46.06 | ScytheBlade1 | *levels |
| 21:46.07 | Shirik | what exactly does it DO |
| 21:46.13 | Shirik | less blood? |
| 21:46.17 | ScytheBlade1 | A value of one turns it to green blood (aka "this isn't a humanoid") |
| 21:46.23 | ScytheBlade1 | A value of two removes blood entirely |
| 21:46.23 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 21:46.27 | nevcairiel | stupid german rules |
| 21:46.29 | Shirik | ah |
| 21:46.35 | malreth | just like Mortal Kombat on the Genesis! |
| 21:46.42 | Shirik | it doesn't do anything to US clients though, yeah? |
| 21:46.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Nothing |
| 21:46.50 | Shirik | boo |
| 21:46.52 | Shirik | I want green blood |
| 21:47.22 | Kirov | Actually, here's a fun rule that's even in the US. |
| 21:47.22 | Kirov | You can set a human on fire, as long as it's not too long, and they don't scream too much. |
| 21:47.35 | Kirov | How fucking nebulous is that. |
| 21:47.39 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 21:47.40 | Thunder_Child | cogwheel, use swat |
| 21:49.01 | nevcairiel | I actually re-did my Config.wtf. hoping something i had in there would cause my lags |
| 21:49.35 | nevcairiel | Do you guys have "Reduce Input Lag" (gxFixLag) on? |
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| 21:50.10 | amro | nope |
| 21:50.14 | Shirik|AFK | oh, input lag? |
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| 21:50.31 | nevcairiel | I dont know what that option does |
| 21:50.35 | nevcairiel | but cuts me down 20 fps |
| 21:51.02 | amro | when on or off/ |
| 21:51.06 | nevcairiel | on |
| 21:51.18 | amro | just turned it on, ill see if I take a hit as well |
| 21:52.01 | Shirik|AFK | nevcairiel: What that does is fixes where the mouse "is" |
| 21:52.12 | Shirik|AFK | and yes, it could probably reduce your framerate |
| 21:52.18 | Wikwocket | Make sure you have the magic switch turned on: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/magic-story.html |
| 21:52.48 | Shirik|AFK | turning off gxFixLag can result in your cursor being behind where your mouse actually is |
| 21:52.49 | amro | SET moreMagic "1" |
| 21:53.01 | Shirik|AFK | however if you have a good computer, it probably won't be noticed |
| 21:53.05 | nevcairiel | good |
| 21:53.07 | nevcairiel | then its off |
| 21:53.22 | nevcairiel | now i have to join AV to test my lag with my textures |
| 21:53.30 | malreth | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJJL5dxgVaM |
| 21:54.44 | Thunder_Child | nevcairiel, no script yet or you want to try this stuff first |
| 21:54.57 | nevcairiel | i tried a script, but it didnt reproduce the lag |
| 21:55.01 | nevcairiel | for some reason |
| 21:55.06 | nevcairiel | so going to test if its still there |
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| 22:00.31 | Lunessa | Can I get another set of eyes on this to make sure I got it right? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202657245&sid=1 |
| 22:02.56 | TecnoBrat | currently mounts are still items on beta |
| 22:03.48 | Lunessa | I know that, I meant about the index of spells. :P |
| 22:04.35 | TecnoBrat | I know I'm just saying that cause we don't really even know how blizzard plans to do it .. if it will be a real spell or what |
| 22:05.01 | Kirov | I think you can do /cast spell:1234 right now |
| 22:05.15 | Kirov | but that just makes the size larger |
| 22:06.05 | Kirov | hmm |
| 22:06.35 | Kirov | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:06.54 | nevcairiel | Thunder_Child: i dunno, seems to be gone after my Config.wtf reset, oh well, i'm happy =) |
| 22:07.03 | Thunder_Child | nevcairiel, gratz |
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| 22:08.55 | Lunessa | Kirov: /use and /cast are the same function, different aliases. |
| 22:09.17 | Xuerian | Lunessa: Holy frack that's a lot of mounts |
| 22:09.28 | Lunessa | Yeah, I thought I was bad. |
| 22:10.31 | Thunder_Child | Xuerian, well Lunessa does like the ladies... |
| 22:10.56 | Lunessa | yes, but I never refer to them as "mounts" |
| 22:11.06 | Thunder_Child | not to their faces at least |
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| 22:15.11 | Xuerian | Or unless they're into wow. >_> |
| 22:16.13 | reqol | I have "PLAYER_COMBO_POINTS" registered to update a local variable containing the # of combo points the user has. I use this to track kidney shot/rupture's duration. however, if ruthlessness procs, it sets the combo points to 1 before i can get an accurate duration. anyone know how to circumvent this/another method? |
| 22:18.21 | Kirov | I'm not terribly familiar with the workings of a rogue. Why does knowing the number of combo points help with keeping track of the duration of kidney shot?? |
| 22:18.53 | reqol | kidney shot's duration is modified by the # of combo points |
| 22:19.20 | reqol | for rank 2, it starts with 2 seconds for 1 combo points, and increases by 1 for each combo point |
| 22:19.21 | Kirov | For when you cast it, right. |
| 22:19.24 | reqol | yes |
| 22:19.55 | Kirov | Can't you just get the time from the debuff itself? |
| 22:20.37 | reqol | I could, but I wasn't sure how accurate that would be compared to SPELL_AURA_APPLIED. |
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| 22:22.27 | Kirov | Any accuracy difference should be equally bad for either method. |
| 22:23.05 | Kirov | kidney shot / rupture doesn't stack with other rogues' |
| 22:23.10 | Kirov | ? |
| 22:23.15 | Kirov | Does it? |
| 22:23.19 | reqol | kidney doesn't, rupture does |
| 22:23.33 | reqol | which is another reason I was reluctant to use that method |
| 22:23.43 | Kirov | yeah, that's a good reason |
| 22:23.59 | reqol | and if I could fix this issue, it should work perfectly fine otherwise |
| 22:24.11 | reqol | accuracy is important because this is for timer addon |
| 22:24.43 | Kirov | I would store the number of combo points at the time you cast rupture / kidney shot, rather than on the PLAYER_COMBO_POINTS event, or a combat log event. |
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| 22:24.58 | reqol | the combo points are gone by the time SPELL_AURA_APPLIED fires |
| 22:25.04 | reqol | that's what I was doing originally |
| 22:25.07 | Kirov | Right, you don't want it then. |
| 22:25.15 | reqol | same goes for SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS |
| 22:25.16 | Kirov | You want it when you cast, before it's even gone to the server. |
| 22:25.21 | reqol | I see |
| 22:26.00 | reqol | what should I use for that? |
| 22:26.20 | Kirov | how though becomes an issue ... in the past you'd just hook UseAction, CastSpell and CastSpellByName... not sure if that's still valid. |
| 22:29.50 | reqol | would http://www.wowwiki.com/API_hooksecurefunc work? |
| 22:30.19 | Drundia | yes |
| 22:30.22 | Drundia | it should |
| 22:30.26 | Kirov | It would, but the problem is if those three are the only methods the game has to cast spells. |
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| 22:30.43 | Kirov | I'm not sure what happens when a macro does /use Rupture |
| 22:31.19 | Drundia | ./use is same as /cast |
| 22:31.37 | ckknight | has anyone made anything with the new restricted system yet? |
| 22:31.50 | Drundia | what is new restricted system? :O |
| 22:32.40 | Kirov | Drundia - it's more if /use or /cast still map back to CastSpell or if it just handles it internally |
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| 22:33.58 | Drundia | http://wowcompares.com/2438606/FrameXML/ChatFrame.lua: SecureCmdList["USE"] = SecureCmdList["CAST"]; |
| 22:35.00 | Drundia | so it's all the same CastSpellByName |
| 22:35.01 | ckknight | Drundia: RestrictedExecution.lua and the like |
| 22:35.02 | Kirov | CastSpellByName it is |
| 22:35.07 | ckknight | in WotLK's FrameXML |
| 22:35.31 | ckknight | I'm trying to figure out how to create a proper working environment so that CallRestrictedClosure could work |
| 22:36.13 | ckknight | ah, rtable.newtable() |
| 22:38.23 | Drundia | is it supposed to give us more privileges? |
| 22:38.43 | ckknight | yep |
| 22:38.51 | ckknight | in a restricted context, only so many functions available |
| 22:38.53 | ckknight | etc. |
| 22:44.14 | ckknight | well, I found a bug in the restricted system |
| 22:44.39 | ScytheBlade1 | ckknight: bug alestane/Iriel |
| 22:45.01 | ckknight | neither are online :-( |
| 22:45.06 | ckknight | le sigh |
| 22:45.28 | ckknight | ~seen Iriel |
| 22:45.41 | purl | iriel <n=Iriel@adsl-71-158-244-138.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 2d 18h 48m 5s ago, saying: 'Tekkub: I'd go with that, or posting a stand-alone request thread showing what you want and what research you've done so far. I tend to have more success with something that shows I at least tried myself 8-)'. |
| 22:45.51 | ScytheBlade1 | You know, actually, it's beta and not live code... post it on the beta UI forums |
| 22:46.11 | ckknight | that works |
| 22:46.28 | Tekkub | there's a 3.0 thread on the UI forum |
| 22:46.28 | p3lim | is there a CVAR called "WINDOWED_MAXIMIZED" ? |
| 22:46.35 | ckknight | what's the link to that? |
| 22:46.45 | ScytheBlade1 | forums.worldofwarcraft.com/?sid=2000 |
| 22:46.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Click UI |
| 22:46.55 | Tekkub | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=10B01B3D48CA44E4D0C7683DA04C90A2.app05_08?topicId=8202271194&sid=1 |
| 22:47.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Or the live forums |
| 22:47.05 | p3lim | Anyone knows? |
| 22:48.42 | Esamynn | p3lim: you mean a c var for the option that maximizes the client when it is in windowed mode? |
| 22:48.50 | Thunder_Child | "gxMaximize - When using windowed mode, maximize the window " ? |
| 22:48.53 | p3lim | yeah |
| 22:48.55 | p3lim | hm |
| 22:49.42 | Esamynn | OptionsFrameCheckButtons["WINDOWED_MAXIMIZED"] = { index = 17, cvar = "gxMaximize", dependency = "WINDOWED_MODE", tooltipText = OPTION_TOOLTIP_WINDOWED_MAXIMIZED, gxRestart = 1}; |
| 22:49.56 | p3lim | thanks Esamynn |
| 22:49.59 | Esamynn | more specifically cvar = "gxMaximize" |
| 22:50.53 | p3lim | Is it even possible that the minimap mask changes can be affected by that cvar changing? |
| 22:51.09 | Esamynn | anything is possible ;) |
| 22:51.19 | p3lim | hm.. |
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| 22:54.04 | foxlit | clap or the securestateheader dies! :) |
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| 22:55.43 | Thunder_Child | cla...eh, not worth it |
| 22:57.28 | foxlit | http://cgi.ebay.com/Dr-Horrible-Super-Villain-Mad-Scientist-Goggles_W0QQitemZ200241436959QQihZ010QQcategoryZ19255QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 22:57.28 | foxlit | sigh, wrong ones! |
| 22:57.28 | Kirov | http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3462502400/tt0071230 |
| 22:58.20 | Kirov | (that's a response to foxlit's "or the ___ dies" comment) |
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| 23:00.21 | reqol | how am I supposed to get the spell ID or name from UseAction? it gives you an action slot, but what if they're using a bar addon? |
| 23:01.50 | Kirov | reqol - a bar addon will be directly mapped to a spell or a macro, in which case the other two functions will catch it. |
| 23:02.18 | Kirov | ie: UseAction is only called if it's actually an action being used. |
| 23:02.27 | Lunessa | Kirov: "I'll blow this _____'s head all over this town!" "Listen to him men! He's just crazy enough to do it!" |
| 23:02.55 | reqol | it doesn't trigger when I cast a spell via the action bar (I'm using dominos) |
| 23:04.41 | reqol | ah, I see |
| 23:04.55 | reqol | it's because tuller reuses the action bars, and since he does, they have the same IDs as the blizzard ones |
| 23:07.19 | Esamynn | foxlit: and why exactly do we want the old version to live? |
| 23:07.32 | reqol | actually no, they don't have the same IDs |
| 23:07.43 | foxlit | Esamynn: less code to rewrite. |
| 23:07.52 | Esamynn | QQ more |
| 23:08.32 | foxlit | removed PieButton, too |
| 23:08.48 | foxlit | I'm guessing I can now have the pleasure of doing all that math in my own code |
| 23:09.02 | Esamynn | PieButton was removed? |
| 23:09.28 | Thunder_Child | ~qq Esamynn |
| 23:09.28 | purl | CRY MOAR Esamynn |
| 23:09.33 | reqol | well, he reuses the action bars, but using GetActionText() returns nil, and it also doesn't trigger either CastSpell function |
| 23:09.43 | Esamynn | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 23:09.43 | purl | DoSes Thunder_Child |
| 23:09.52 | Dashkal | Especially in light of that going, what would be a good thing to use to create a circular button for mouseover/leave purposes? |
| 23:09.59 | Thunder_Child | ~squish Esamynn |
| 23:10.00 | purl | ACTION squishes Esamynn like a bug |
| 23:10.03 | foxlit | It's not in SecureTemplates.xml anymroe |
| 23:10.07 | Esamynn | ~bzfrag Thunder_Child |
| 23:10.07 | purl | ACTION fries Thunder_Child with a laser |
| 23:10.15 | Thunder_Child | ~swat Esamynn |
| 23:10.16 | purl | ACTION swats Esamynn with a Esamynn swatter |
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| 23:10.21 | foxlit | need more Dr.Horrible0related purl emotes. |
| 23:10.22 | Thunder_Child | ~smoke Esamynn |
| 23:10.23 | purl | ACTION rolls up Esamynn, lights a match, kicks back and enjoys the noxious fumes |
| 23:10.32 | Esamynn | ~cheeseslap Thunder_Child |
| 23:10.33 | purl | ACTION slaps Thunder_Child around with a piece of edam |
| 23:10.46 | Esamynn | ~kill Thunder_Child |
| 23:10.47 | purl | ACTION shoots a hyper-charged quark gun at Thunder_Child |
| 23:10.47 | Thunder_Child | ~whalekiss Esamynn |
| 23:10.56 | Thunder_Child | huh...i thought that was one |
| 23:10.57 | Esamynn | ~fail Thunder_Child |
| 23:10.58 | purl | Thunder_Child, you Fail! |
| 23:11.04 | Thunder_Child | ~epic fail Esamynn |
| 23:11.05 | purl | Esamynn, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you Esamynn, you are that epic failure. |
| 23:11.07 | Esamynn | ~botsnack |
| 23:11.07 | purl | thanks, Esamynn |
| 23:11.18 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: face it, you lose that bot war :P |
| 23:11.45 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, not even...though i am getting tired of having to write half the things i ~ |
| 23:11.47 | Esamynn | s/lose/lost/ |
| 23:12.56 | Esamynn | and I was just getting warmed up too! :P |
| 23:14.35 | Thunder_Child | ~whalekiss Esamynn |
| 23:14.36 | purl | ACTION makes hugh the formerly male whale give Esamynn a kiss |
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| 23:15.18 | Esamynn | ~factinfo cmd: whalekiss (.*?) |
| 23:15.18 | purl | cmd: whalekiss (.*?) -- created by Thunder_Child <n=TC@cpe-76-171-31-114.socal.res.rr.com> 48s ago; it has been requested once, last by Thunder_Child, 42s ago. |
| 23:15.34 | Esamynn | ~literal cmd: whalekiss (.*?) |
| 23:15.35 | purl | "cmd: whalekiss (.*?)" is "($1): <action> makes hugh the formerly male whale give $1 a kiss" |
| 23:19.47 | Thunder_Child | is it just me or did they go all out WC3 in WotLK? |
| 23:19.53 | Thunder_Child | as far as the talents go |
| 23:20.14 | foxlit | kd3: so... pale... |
| 23:20.21 | kd3 | ? |
| 23:20.30 | foxlit | That screenshot. |
| 23:20.53 | foxlit | Should be way more vivid - needs more bloom. |
| 23:21.29 | kd3 | ya, need to see if I can get a better version of that |
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| 23:24.27 | Lunessa | *headdesk* http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202277686&sid=1 |
| 23:28.50 | Lunessa | I really, really, really can't believe that he's telling me that my attitude is preventing me from helping him. |
| 23:31.11 | Thunder_Child | "i really hate to be blunt but i cant think of any other way to phrase this, so im sorry " what a load of crap, if people are really sorry, they wouldnt say it in the first place |
| 23:33.35 | p3lim | Anyone knows if PLAYER_DEAD has any args? wowwiki's event page is screwed over atm |
| 23:35.00 | ckknight | gah, Lunessa, don't be such a dick by trying to help people, jeez |
| 23:35.12 | Lunessa | Totally. |
| 23:35.31 | selckin | p3lim: unit_died? |
| 23:36.24 | p3lim | the event |
| 23:38.59 | Kirov | p3lim - PLAYER_DEAD does not |
| 23:39.11 | p3lim | ok |
| 23:39.24 | kamdis | Lunessa, I had to reply to that thread. |
| 23:39.34 | kamdis | Not with anything macro-related of course. |
| 23:39.42 | Lunessa | Heh, I'm replying in-depth. |
| 23:39.44 | laeg | as a part of a larger macro is there anything wrong with the following line: |
| 23:39.45 | kamdis | because he's an "expert" and all. |
| 23:39.51 | laeg | ./use [nocombat,noequipped:item:xxxxx] 13 |
| 23:40.02 | kamdis | with his auto-insult dead enemy crap |
| 23:40.19 | kamdis | equipped doesn't take specific items |
| 23:40.23 | kamdis | jsut item types |
| 23:40.24 | laeg | shit |
| 23:40.57 | laeg | there are 2 heroism/ferocity trinkets i have queued for slot 13 but i only want them used when insignia of the alliance isn't there |
| 23:41.06 | p3lim | does UPDATE_INVENTORY_ALERTS have any args? |
| 23:41.31 | laeg | i know i can use two separate lines /use [nocombat] trinket name |
| 23:41.52 | laeg | and they will then only fire off when equipped but i just don't have the space until i create a secure macro frame |
| 23:42.07 | laeg | that is i don't have the space to name them by name or by item number |
| 23:42.46 | Esamynn | Lunessa: you are WAAAAAY more patient that I am ;) |
| 23:42.53 | kamdis | Thunder_Child: :-( I haven't eaten yet today. |
| 23:42.58 | laeg | i'm working towards 60 consecutive seconds of the heroism/ferocity buff with 4 separate macros :) |
| 23:42.59 | Esamynn | at this point, I'd tell him to stuff it, (or maybe remain silent) |
| 23:43.06 | Lunessa | Yeah? Fix my G-Bank permissions nub? I want to deposirt. :P |
| 23:43.32 | Esamynn | you just join the guild today Lunessa ? |
| 23:43.56 | Lunessa | No. But I couldn't deposit yesterday on Unkle. I don't want to take out, I want to put IN. |
| 23:44.02 | Esamynn | odd |
| 23:44.07 | Thunder_Child | kamdis, i have been up for 5+ hours sofar and i still havent had anything to eat |
| 23:44.19 | Esamynn | you should be able to deposit and withdraw if you're anything but an initiate |
| 23:44.23 | Esamynn | I'll look when I get home |
| 23:44.37 | kamdis | 10 hours and counting |
| 23:44.55 | kamdis | 2 lattes and a diet coke though |
| 23:44.57 | kamdis | heh |
| 23:45.15 | Lunessa | Esamynn: Ok. :) Or maybe we found a bug. :P |
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| 23:45.26 | Esamynn | maybe! |
| 23:45.28 | Thunder_Child | got me beat then...but i was thinking of the bread... |
| 23:45.33 | Thunder_Child | mmmmm |
| 23:46.00 | Lunessa | Oh man... now I'm hungry. |
| 23:49.09 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Kirov |
| 23:49.09 | purl | raises middle finger to Kirov |
| 23:49.38 | Lunessa | Oh man... I have 4 hours left in this shift. |
| 23:50.14 | Thunder_Child | i could go get food, but it would require moving |
| 23:50.14 | Kirov | Lunessa - you at least have access to water, yes? |
| 23:50.17 | Kirov | water is good |
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| 23:50.41 | Lunessa | Or, if I would get my overly-large martian ass up out of the chair, I could go get food off-campus. |
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