| 00:01.56 | Kaelten | malreth: hey |
| 00:05.31 | malreth | yes |
| 00:05.49 | malreth | stop selling yourself out to Curse. :p |
| 00:06.00 | durcyn | sellout! |
| 00:07.09 | Xuerian | malreth: Agreed on the ending. |
| 00:07.29 | malreth | "dur dur... i made an account just to tell you *snort* that i don't like you" |
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| 00:13.33 | Shirik | malreth? |
| 00:13.36 | Xuerian | Owch >_> |
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| 00:19.40 | Cairenn | heh |
| 00:20.04 | Nechckn | "It's okay, as long as we remember...." |
| 00:20.04 | Nechckn | ;-) |
| 00:20.17 | Cairenn | is all good :) |
| 00:20.42 | Cairenn | 180 signed up so far :) |
| 00:20.58 | Nechckn | wow, nice |
| 00:21.00 | Thrae | WoWUI Premium? |
| 00:21.04 | Cairenn | no |
| 00:21.13 | Cairenn | premium doesn't matter |
| 00:21.26 | Nechckn | Cairenn's Fan Club? |
| 00:21.29 | Thrae | I just came in on the conversation. |
| 00:21.32 | Cairenn | lol, no |
| 00:21.36 | Nechckn | Oh wait... Shirik won't let me in |
| 00:21.38 | Cairenn | the author key giveaway |
| 00:21.45 | Cairenn | same as last time |
| 00:21.46 | Shirik | the Cairenn Fan Club is a very elite and restrictive society |
| 00:21.54 | Cairenn | bah |
| 00:21.58 | Thrae | And I think "20:21 <@Cairenn> premium doesn't matter" could be taken out of context |
| 00:22.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Thrae: 110% agreed |
| 00:22.15 | Cairenn | lol |
| 00:22.34 | ScytheBlade1 | I glanced over just now and saw that |
| 00:22.36 | Thrae | Cairenn: So WoWUI is doing the same as Curse? |
| 00:22.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Went 0_0 |
| 00:22.44 | |Yssaril| | Cairenn: any idea when we can accept to hear from blizz/get our key? |
| 00:22.47 | Cairenn | Thrae: WoWI, not WoWUI |
| 00:22.56 | Shirik | |Yssaril|: No idea, but the names won't be sent until the 28th |
| 00:23.00 | Cairenn | Thrae: and no |
| 00:23.02 | Shirik | the keys will be available sometime after that |
| 00:23.10 | Shirik | ~soon |
| 00:23.13 | purl | soon is, like, well before heat death, or http://www.wowwiki.com/Soon |
| 00:23.18 | Yssaril | ahh |
| 00:23.22 | Thrae | Now I'm confused. |
| 00:23.33 | Thrae | Is this something in conjuction with Curse? |
| 00:23.37 | Cairenn | noi |
| 00:23.40 | Cairenn | no* |
| 00:24.15 | Thrae | So this has nothing to do with Curseforge's key giveaway to addon authors? |
| 00:24.56 | sancus | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/cat110.html |
| 00:24.58 | sancus | er |
| 00:25.01 | sancus | wrong channel |
| 00:25.19 | Cairenn | Thrae: a) we did this first, last expansion; b) curse is curse, wowi is wowi |
| 00:25.47 | Thrae | So it's not a giveaway to addon authors. OK. |
| 00:25.56 | Shirik | huh? |
| 00:27.19 | Cairenn | Thrae: c) curseforge: Authors **chosen** for the giveaway; wowi: This is not a contest! Whether using US or EU client, if you are a mod author that hosts with us and you have been keeping your mods current, you are eligible for a key! |
| 00:27.49 | Thrae | Right. |
| 00:28.05 | malreth | here u go, Cairenn |
| 00:28.08 | Cairenn | Thrae: when did your brains drain out of your ear? you've been around long enough you were involved with it last time |
| 00:28.12 | Shirik | if you can make an addon produce ice cream sundaes |
| 00:28.19 | Shirik | I will be more than happy to give you a key. But it has to be real |
| 00:28.20 | Shirik | and cold |
| 00:28.24 | Shirik | and with a cherry |
| 00:28.31 | Cairenn | Thrae: I'm really confused as to what you are saying |
| 00:28.32 | |Jelly| | fudge? |
| 00:28.34 | Thrae | Cairenn: I was absent for a few months while TBC was in beta and after. |
| 00:28.41 | Shirik | optional; some people don't like it |
| 00:28.56 | malreth | it can be a slash option |
| 00:29.05 | Cairenn | Shirik: and some people don't like maraschino cherries |
| 00:29.14 | |Jelly| | This needs a GUI imo. |
| 00:29.15 | Cairenn | but you didn't have that as optional |
| 00:29.20 | Shirik | yeah but they don't deserve the sundae |
| 00:29.25 | Shirik | if you don't like the cherry |
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| 00:29.29 | Shirik | :D |
| 00:29.31 | malreth | lol |
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| 00:29.32 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-ob Cairenn Shirik!*@*] by Shirik |
| 00:29.32 | *** kick/#WoWUIDev [Cairenn!i=skullsho@conspiracy/developer/Shirik] by Shirik (Don't even think about it!) |
| 00:29.37 | Shirik | haha |
| 00:29.38 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 00:29.39 | Thrae | But, if there are a limited number of keys, wouldn't the contest be if there are more authors, there is less chance of winning the key? |
| 00:29.40 | Shirik | she should know better than that |
| 00:29.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Thrae: as far as I can tell, WoWI is guaranteed, and the Curse one is... 'not.' I may be wrong on that last point. With that said, they're two entirely different things |
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| 00:29.50 | Shirik | um |
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| 00:29.58 | Cairenn | heh |
| 00:30.01 | |Jelly| | lol |
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| 00:30.18 | ScytheBlade1 | And play nice you two, you're spamming my screen with kicks/joins/mode changes :( |
| 00:30.31 | Shirik | That was totally her fault! |
| 00:30.37 | Shirik | I didn't kick her |
| 00:30.40 | Shirik | my client did |
| 00:30.43 | |Jelly| | SPAMMERS!!! |
| 00:30.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: blame the boss lady. That's always a GREAT idea. |
| 00:30.49 | Cairenn | Thrae: explain, I really don't understand what you were saying |
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| 00:30.57 | Cairenn | Shirik: |
| 00:31.08 | Cairenn | <== doesn't like maraschino cherries |
| 00:31.40 | Shirik | well you probably deserved that kick then |
| 00:31.49 | Cairenn | >< |
| 00:32.25 | Shirik | :< |
| 00:32.27 | malreth | i was screaming, "OP fight OP fight" |
| 00:32.34 | Shirik | wait, does that mean I don't have to approve mods for another week? |
| 00:32.46 | Cairenn | hah, good luck! |
| 00:33.36 | Shirik | best client ever |
| 00:33.39 | Shirik | even if it IS running on mirc |
| 00:33.47 | batrick | ya uh |
| 00:33.55 | batrick | you could do that with a simple perl scrip ~~ |
| 00:34.06 | Shirik | yes, but perl is ugl |
| 00:34.07 | Shirik | ugly |
| 00:34.12 | batrick | meh |
| 00:34.22 | Shirik | seriously, who in their right mind makes a lessthan-or-greaterthan-or-equalto operator |
| 00:34.48 | |Jelly| | I want a 70 warrior. :( |
| 00:35.12 | Shirik | while(<=>) |
| 00:35.17 | Shirik | whoever made that syntax should be shot |
| 00:35.18 | Thrae | Shirik: Someone who's strict about sticking to their mathmatical notations! |
| 00:35.42 | Shirik | hi cladhaire |
| 00:35.48 | cladhaire | ohai |
| 00:35.55 | Shirik | you missed epic op war |
| 00:36.02 | Shirik | oh, quick question |
| 00:36.06 | Shirik | do you like cherries on your sundae? |
| 00:36.20 | batrick | shirikfase |
| 00:36.24 | batrick | u see dark knight yet |
| 00:36.25 | Cairenn | cherries are fine, it's maraschino cherries that suck |
| 00:36.38 | Shirik | dark knight? |
| 00:36.43 | batrick | my god |
| 00:36.47 | batrick | someone ban shirik pls |
| 00:36.51 | Shirik | are you referring to wow? |
| 00:37.02 | Shirik | "have you seen" makes me think movie |
| 00:37.03 | batrick | !g dark knight |
| 00:37.05 | batbot | batrick: The Dark Knight <http://thedarkknight.warnerbros.com/> |
| 00:37.29 | malreth | hmm... |
| 00:37.36 | Shirik | batman? |
| 00:37.37 | Shirik | screw that |
| 00:37.45 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 00:37.47 | batrick | wow |
| 00:37.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Someone kickban Shirik |
| 00:37.53 | malreth | !g maraschino cherry |
| 00:37.54 | batbot | malreth: Maraschino cherry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maraschino_cherry> |
| 00:38.30 | malreth | aooooh... |
| 00:38.33 | Xuerian | batrick: Your sarcasm sense is fail |
| 00:38.51 | batrick | shirik doesn't have sarcasm silly |
| 00:38.55 | batrick | he's an engineer |
| 00:38.58 | Shirik | oh no I was totally serious |
| 00:38.59 | Xuerian | He has shirkism. |
| 00:39.01 | ScytheBlade1 | ~win batrick |
| 00:39.02 | purl | Congratulations, batrick! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 00:39.07 | Shirik | I have no intent of seeing that |
| 00:39.08 | Xuerian | Alright then |
| 00:39.13 | Xuerian | I agree with the kickban |
| 00:39.14 | Shirik | unless you give me a good reason |
| 00:39.27 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-b Shirik!*@*] by Cairenn |
| 00:39.27 | Shirik | I wish someone would come up with something NEW for a change |
| 00:39.41 | batrick | I hate you. |
| 00:39.43 | malreth | !g nakadashi |
| 00:39.45 | batbot | malreth: Urban Dictionary: nakadashi <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nakadashi> |
| 00:39.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: they did: drhorrible.com |
| 00:39.48 | malreth | :D |
| 00:39.49 | batrick | I'm revoking your filum svn privledges |
| 00:39.50 | Shirik | I wasn't banned hun, but thanks any Cairenn :) |
| 00:40.00 | Shirik | oh it's ok batrick, you don't give me permission to use batbot either |
| 00:40.01 | Shirik | lol |
| 00:40.04 | Xuerian | ScytheBlade1: Was going to link that >_. |
| 00:40.20 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: That might be an ok reason to see it |
| 00:40.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: actually my reason for you to go see the Dark Knight is this: |
| 00:40.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: if you don't, I'll fly over there and stab you to death myself. |
| 00:40.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: or you can watch it. Your choice. |
| 00:40.55 | Shirik | lol |
| 00:41.02 | Shirik | coming to blizzcon? |
| 00:41.10 | ScytheBlade1 | No :( |
| 00:41.15 | Shirik | failure |
| 00:41.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Most places won't give a hotel room to anyone who isn't 21, no matter how close you may be at the time |
| 00:41.34 | batrick | Shirik: only person with permission to restart batbot is me :P |
| 00:41.35 | |Jelly| | I plan on it. :P |
| 00:41.45 | Shirik | oh I can start batbot |
| 00:41.52 | Shirik | it just crashes on the first command issued |
| 00:42.05 | Shirik | wanna see? It's pretty cool |
| 00:42.10 | batrick | not rly |
| 00:42.34 | Nechckn | ScytheBlade1 so find some chump with whom to room... perhaps. |
| 00:42.54 | malreth | Nechckn: also, ScytheBlade1 has an irrational fear of anal rape |
| 00:42.56 | Nechckn | or simply to reserve and checkin |
| 00:43.03 | ScytheBlade1 | malreth: irrational? |
| 00:43.08 | malreth | irrational, yes |
| 00:43.42 | Cairenn | Thrae: ? |
| 00:43.43 | Nechckn | what, you've never heard the "It's all good" phrase =) |
| 00:44.32 | Nechckn | or something like that, anyway. |
| 00:46.48 | Seerah | Thrae: wowi has an *unlimited* number of keys to give away. |
| 00:46.54 | Seerah | it's not a contest |
| 00:47.12 | kd3 | can I reserve 38485 keys then? ;) |
| 00:47.12 | Thrae | Seerah: Ah, neato. |
| 00:47.19 | Shirik | kd3: 1 per author :P |
| 00:47.26 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: I'd be content with 2 but noooooo |
| 00:47.33 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 00:47.35 | Thrae | Can I sell my key? :D |
| 00:47.52 | Thrae | Wait, sorry, that was being too much of a smart-ass, even for me. |
| 00:47.57 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 00:48.38 | kd3 | my gods it's weird accepting quests from bosses I've had on farm status before |
| 00:48.46 | Shirik | wait |
| 00:48.48 | Shirik | you killed him |
| 00:48.51 | Shirik | and now he gives you a quest? |
| 00:48.58 | Seerah | it was a test |
| 00:49.05 | kd3 | we're "in the past" as death knights |
| 00:49.12 | Shirik | ah |
| 00:49.20 | kd3 | much like how the draenei starting areas are in the past compared to places like stormwind |
| 00:49.52 | Seerah | kd3: the woltk beta discussion thread is full of suggestions for the author guild names |
| 00:49.52 | Shirik | oh that's how it's supposed to fit in |
| 00:49.55 | Shirik | that has always bothered me |
| 00:49.56 | Seerah | if you haven't seen it yet |
| 00:49.56 | [dRaCo] | WoW's timeline is pretty screwed |
| 00:50.13 | Xuerian | [dRaCo]: Timeline? Just the timeline? |
| 00:50.28 | [dRaCo] | not just, no. |
| 00:50.43 | Xuerian | "Draenei" fin |
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| 00:51.56 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: kinda like the inn in OHB? Yeah it's a bit creepy |
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| 00:55.08 | Sixen | Have you guys seen Breanni's NPC? |
| 00:55.37 | kd3 | I saw her post, haven't seen the npc itself |
| 00:55.43 | kd3 | one of my copies is in dalaran right now |
| 00:56.48 | Sixen | Ah |
| 00:57.03 | Sixen | That'd be so awesome, =D |
| 00:57.42 | kd3 | indeed. I'm mildly curious to see if there's a grammar nazi npc lying in wait somewhere |
| 00:58.01 | Sixen | That would be epic. |
| 00:58.44 | Sixen | Heh, Kaydeethree <Dead Poet Society> |
| 01:01.32 | Seerah | hmm... is there any way I can increase the frame level of a font string? |
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| 01:04.40 | Industrial | watching crest of the stars |
| 01:04.58 | Seerah | what are you watching, Indie? |
| 01:04.58 | Industrial | totally into alternate sci fi worlds with technology and big ships and AMGNERDGASM |
| 01:05.22 | Industrial | Seerah: http://www.animenfo.com/animetitle,376,xzudnt,seikai_no_monsh.html |
| 01:05.44 | Seerah | ohh |
| 01:05.51 | Industrial | dont forget cute elfish aliens :O |
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| 01:06.05 | Seerah | see? you're just a teddy bear that likes cute things! |
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| 01:06.17 | Industrial | I _love_ cute things :D |
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| 01:13.45 | cladhaire | sorry about the part/join spam |
| 01:13.49 | cladhaire | had some connection issues |
| 01:14.15 | Xuerian | Event filters ftw? |
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| 01:22.29 | Stanzilla | Shirik: is there an option in your wowi updater that lets it delete the zips after updating? |
| 01:23.05 | Shirik | not presently, no |
| 01:23.14 | Shirik | it's undergoing a massive transformation atm |
| 01:23.20 | Shirik | I can include that in the next version |
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| 01:23.32 | Stanzilla | cool :) |
| 01:23.43 | Shirik | On another note, I have identified something that is better than wendy's triple cheeseburgers |
| 01:23.50 | Shirik | wendy's chocolate frosty shakes |
| 01:24.00 | Lopeppeppy | Ah. Chocolate > anything else. |
| 01:24.12 | Xuerian | White chocolate > Normal chocolate. |
| 01:24.36 | Xuerian | It's a shame they don't have a white chocolate frosty =| |
| 01:25.03 | Lopeppeppy | White chocolate isn't. :( |
| 01:26.21 | kd3 | lmfao: Ghouplosion: Instant: Instantly kills a disobedient ghoul. That includes ghouls that think it's acceptable to talk back to Gothik. |
| 01:26.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: blasphemer! |
| 01:26.47 | Lopeppeppy | ScytheBlade1, troof. |
| 01:26.52 | malreth | Shirik: you haven't tried their chocolate frosty shakes before? |
| 01:27.08 | Shirik | nope |
| 01:27.08 | ScytheBlade1 | "No definitions were found for troof." |
| 01:27.09 | malreth | do you know what's even better than the choco frosty shake? |
| 01:27.22 | malreth | chocolate frosty root beer float |
| 01:27.27 | Shirik | I hate root beer |
| 01:27.35 | malreth | then coke, meh |
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| 01:33.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Blueberries are amazing though |
| 01:33.55 | Shirik | you'll turn into veronica salt! |
| 01:33.59 | Shirik | or whatever her name was |
| 01:34.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Who? |
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| 01:34.48 | malreth | veruca salt |
| 01:35.09 | Shirik | whatever |
| 01:35.15 | Shirik | it's been way too long |
| 01:35.38 | malreth | apparently pressing esc in mibbit closes your connection |
| 01:35.51 | Lopeppeppy | Same with some other clients. |
| 01:36.11 | malreth | in colloquy, it deletes the current line that you were typing |
| 01:36.31 | Shirik | in nbs-irc it does nothing :P |
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| 01:38.01 | malreth | yes, there was also a 90s band named Veruca Salt |
| 01:38.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Anyone have the details of the drum nerf in the expansion by chance? |
| 01:39.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Is it the group-wide debuff that was leaked quite a while ago? |
| 01:39.35 | Stanzilla | ScytheBlade1: http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=51120 |
| 01:40.17 | ScytheBlade1 | That's what I thought |
| 01:42.12 | malreth | i don't get it... does it get applied after the effect of the drums fade? |
| 01:42.34 | ScytheBlade1 | When you hit the drums |
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| 01:43.19 | malreth | o_O |
| 01:43.46 | malreth | so... you drop the drums... and then your group doesn't get any benefit from the drums |
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| 01:45.01 | malreth | unless i'm wrong... and i'm never wrong... that sounds pretty stupid |
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| 01:47.22 | Seerah | gah! okay... I have a bg frame, with a statusbar parented to it (and above/in front of it). I also created a fontstring on the OVERLAY layer. Why is it that my fontstring *insists* on appearing between the bg frame and the statusbar no matter what I change??? |
| 01:51.42 | cladhaire | Seerah: what frame owns the fontstrings? |
| 01:51.45 | cladhaire | fontstring rather |
| 01:51.55 | cladhaire | the bg frame or the statusbar? |
| 01:52.27 | Seerah | the bg. thought it could only be a frame that it can be associated with. I was just looking in the Quartz code and saw it associated to the statusbar - was about to test it |
| 01:52.37 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 01:52.40 | cladhaire | you have to understand layering |
| 01:52.55 | cladhaire | Chapter 10 :P |
| 01:52.58 | Seerah | :P |
| 01:53.04 | Seerah | hehe |
| 01:53.05 | cladhaire | page 138 |
| 01:53.11 | cladhaire | just in case :P |
| 01:53.11 | Seerah | it's open to the widget reference atm ;) |
| 01:53.23 | cladhaire | zomg use the website :P |
| 01:55.23 | Seerah | clad: I think my problem was mainly that I was under the assumption that a fontstring had to be associated to a frame. But I was forgetting that statusbar inherited that |
| 01:57.01 | cladhaire | Seerah: ah, makes sense :P |
| 01:57.10 | cladhaire | StatusBar is just a special case of Frame |
| 01:57.33 | Seerah | now I need to figure out why 2 of my sliders are having a hissy fit and the rest are perfect :P |
| 01:57.40 | Seerah | only difference is a negative min |
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| 02:06.34 | batrick | !lua points(1625) |
| 02:06.34 | batbot | batrick: > 499, 5v5 |
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| 02:07.42 | malreth | ~clap Lopeppeppy |
| 02:07.43 | JerekDain | where can i see info on how to set up my mod to use the new addons tab on the interface options screen? |
| 02:07.55 | JerekDain | having trouble finding info... |
| 02:07.57 | kd3 | the 2.4 changes sticky in the UI forum |
| 02:08.06 | malreth | JerekDain: i believe there's comments in the FrameXML file |
| 02:08.10 | malreth | files |
| 02:08.10 | JerekDain | ah, duh, thanks :P |
| 02:08.13 | JerekDain | mk |
| 02:12.48 | Lopeppeppy | malreth, this Grid is driving me bonkers! Send chocolate by fedex!! |
| 02:13.34 | Seerah | what's wrong, peppy? |
| 02:14.26 | Xuerian | arg freaking internet |
| 02:14.54 | malreth | trying to config Grid? |
| 02:15.07 | malreth | there's a lot to it... and it doesn't make the most sense |
| 02:15.20 | malreth | once you have it figured out, tho... it's pretty nice |
| 02:15.44 | malreth | also, i dumped Grid for Pitbull... i needed a greater challenge |
| 02:15.59 | Lopeppeppy | malreth, it's the sense-making that I have issues with. |
| 02:16.16 | Lopeppeppy | But all of the good healers in my raid group use it except for me, so I pledged that I would try it. I just.... hate it. *sigh* |
| 02:16.25 | malreth | what are you trying to do? |
| 02:16.27 | Shirik | In most guilds, you would think fighting Illidan is a big deal |
| 02:16.38 | Shirik | in my guild, we don't really care about Illidan. We have these arguments instead: |
| 02:16.56 | pastamancer | malreth: lol |
| 02:16.59 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/91877 |
| 02:17.59 | Seerah | hehe shirik |
| 02:18.29 | Lopeppeppy | malreth, I'm just messing with basic setup. Like.... my border was too small so I didn't have anything to drag the units around the screen with. How counter-intuitive is it, that I can't drag the unit, only the border? |
| 02:18.45 | Lopeppeppy | I stayed away from Pitbull and Grid 'cause all those options drove me insane. I use PerfectRaid happily! |
| 02:20.17 | malreth | often what i find with a lot of complicated addons like Grid, Pitbull, Healbot, etc. is that the best way to start using them is to turn everything off |
| 02:20.25 | malreth | disable all the features, all the extras |
| 02:20.38 | malreth | then only turn on the things as you find that you need them |
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| 02:23.12 | Industrial | malreth: mmm really enjoying crest of the stars :O very good dialogues and im loving this dinner talk etiquette in ep 5 with the princess and a baron :-) |
| 02:23.41 | kd3 | cots <3 |
| 02:24.57 | Industrial | its good when its a whole world that can justify itself by jut being :P like star wars or star trek (there, in one sentence.) :D |
| 02:25.11 | Industrial | MOAR :O |
| 02:25.14 | malreth | the anime is based on a series of novels |
| 02:25.39 | malreth | i don't know if there are any plans to translate and release them over here |
| 02:25.54 | malreth | it's pretty indepth, from what i've heard |
| 02:26.03 | Industrial | hmm |
| 02:26.15 | Industrial | i'd read and buy them if I could get them as books |
| 02:26.37 | Industrial | books are rally the only things I buy to consume for enjoyment, besides my hardware :p |
| 02:27.14 | malreth | they released the Vampire Hunter D and Twelve Kingdoms novels here... there's always hope they'll release Crest of the Stars |
| 02:28.23 | malreth | i was glued to that series... kept watching it hoping the guy and that space elf chick would finally get it on |
| 02:28.43 | malreth | it turns out it isn't that kind of show |
| 02:32.25 | Seerah | lol |
| 02:33.35 | malreth | oh... Duh... |
| 02:33.47 | malreth | Tokyopop translated and released the novels |
| 02:34.33 | malreth | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crest_of_the_Stars#Novels |
| 02:36.40 | Arrowmaster | i need to get that anime |
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| 02:44.42 | Anaral | How do people play in first person view in WoW? It's just ugly |
| 02:45.37 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, yes it is. |
| 02:45.54 | Lopeppeppy | I play pulled as far back as physically allowed by code, and it's still scary. |
| 02:46.05 | Anaral | Heh |
| 02:46.13 | Anaral | I continually readjust |
| 02:47.12 | malreth | Anaral: same here |
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| 02:50.15 | Lopeppeppy | purl, malreth doesn't mean anything by it. |
| 02:50.15 | Lopeppeppy | ~comfort malreth |
| 02:50.16 | purl | There, there, malreth. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
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| 03:26.27 | Anaral | Okay, note to self. The Query Server button for Atlas Loot doesn't like the SWP Patterns and Plans page. |
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| 03:33.40 | Nechckn | Of all things to get poked by... |
| 03:34.07 | Sargeras | omg eeee~! |
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| 03:40.04 | Cairenn | :) |
| 03:43.16 | Seerah | okay, I'm about to go insane and pull out my hair and cry :P 2 of the sliders in my addon's config work perfectly. The other 3 wig out and stay glued to the left side of the slider. Two of these three have negative min values, the third just has a large max. Anyone have any idea why they would not be behaving? (I'm using Ace3-Config, and they're set up identically) |
| 03:44.58 | Shirik | you're sure the bounds on them are correct |
| 03:45.08 | Shirik | and what about the default values - are they in range? |
| 03:46.44 | Seerah | default values are in range. what do you mean by bounds? |
| 03:46.51 | Shirik | like the max is not less than the min |
| 03:46.52 | Shirik | etc. |
| 03:46.58 | Seerah | yeah. |
| 03:47.42 | Shirik | got codes? |
| 03:47.52 | Shirik | maybe you could send me the whole thing and I could test it >.> |
| 03:48.12 | Seerah | yeah. gonna put it back to what it originally was after toying with it |
| 03:51.35 | Seerah | shirik: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/91907-1irs |
| 03:51.57 | Seerah | shirik: I highlighted the defaults for the sliders and where their entries are in the options table |
| 03:52.14 | Shirik | :( I have to be a mage |
| 03:52.54 | Nechckn | Shirik why are you not in the channel of your making |
| 03:53.04 | Seerah | if you just want to view options, you can just remove that at the top |
| 03:53.08 | Seerah | it uses Ace3 |
| 03:53.17 | Seerah | do you want the whole folder? |
| 03:53.26 | Shirik | I guess :P |
| 03:56.12 | Seerah | shirik: http://www.box.net/shared/jd2wg458g8 |
| 03:56.31 | Adys | Has anyone played with scrollbars in wotlk? |
| 03:56.43 | Adys | having some problems with FauxScrollFrame_OnVerticalScroll |
| 03:57.03 | Shirik | you're making me make a mage... |
| 03:57.07 | Shirik | do you know how much this hurts? |
| 03:57.38 | Shirik | Adys: |
| 03:57.41 | Shirik | ~FauxScrollFrame |
| 03:57.42 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, fauxscrollframe is one of the first Lua/XML systems written by Blizzard for the WoW user interface. Its learning curve resembles an inverted L, and Zootfizzle hates it. Along with cogs, it is in the top five on his "dead to me" list. |
| 03:57.58 | Adys | ~bothug |
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| 03:58.03 | Adys | ~botsnack |
| 03:58.03 | purl | :), Adys |
| 03:58.46 | Adys | Shirik: Is there an alternative to it? :P |
| 03:59.12 | Shirik | depends on what you're doing :) |
| 03:59.22 | Adys | something i can scroll |
| 03:59.26 | Adys | Yeah, I love being accurate |
| 03:59.33 | Seerah | shirik, I said that you don't need to make a mage :) |
| 03:59.59 | Adys | Shirik: It's a simple list of clickable elements with pretty colors and images |
| 04:00.17 | Seerah | but I love you anyway, shirik :D |
| 04:00.34 | Shirik | if select(2, UnitClass("player")) ~= "MAGE" then |
| 04:00.35 | Shirik | return |
| 04:00.35 | Shirik | end |
| 04:00.44 | Seerah | I said just delete that |
| 04:00.47 | Shirik | oh |
| 04:00.49 | Shirik | missed that |
| 04:00.52 | Seerah | lol |
| 04:01.22 | Seerah | that's just so that the code doesn't get run/frames created if someone leaves it enabled on a non-mage :) |
| 04:01.56 | Shirik | uh, how do I get it to show up? |
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| 04:02.52 | Seerah | options? /frozen config or interface options |
| 04:03.14 | Shirik | frozen is not a registered slash command, and interface options has nothing about "Frozen" |
| 04:03.29 | Seerah | did you delete the mage part? |
| 04:03.37 | Shirik | I made a mage |
| 04:03.42 | Seerah | ..... |
| 04:03.44 | Shirik | And I kinda have to agree, there is no SlashCmdList in your code |
| 04:04.30 | Shirik | oh |
| 04:04.32 | Shirik | Message: ..\AddOns\Frozen\Frozen.lua line 27: |
| 04:04.32 | Shirik | Cannot find a library instance of "LibSharedMedia-3.0". |
| 04:04.32 | Shirik | D |
| 04:04.38 | Seerah | doh |
| 04:04.44 | Seerah | forgot to put that in the folder |
| 04:04.56 | Seerah | I also forgot to change one other thing in the code that I was toying with |
| 04:05.00 | Seerah | let me do a new zip for you |
| 04:05.02 | Shirik | ok |
| 04:07.07 | Shirik | why am I not getting xp for killing cats |
| 04:07.09 | Shirik | they're yellow to me |
| 04:07.25 | Thrae | Shirik: ASPCA demanded. |
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| 04:10.47 | Seerah | same link, shirik |
| 04:14.00 | |Jelly| | (I've looked and can't find one so I'm asking) Is there a statblock for tanking stats (avoidance) |
| 04:15.02 | Shirik | 7/21 00:12:03.573 ** Loading table of contents Interface\AddOns\Frozen\Frozen.toc |
| 04:15.02 | Shirik | 7/21 00:12:03.573 Couldn't parse XML in Interface\AddOns\Frozen\embeds.xml |
| 04:15.13 | Shirik | hell even IE gets pissed when I try to view it |
| 04:15.22 | Seerah | god bless it |
| 04:15.38 | Shirik | <Include file="Libs\AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets\widget.xml" /> |
| 04:15.38 | Shirik | <Include file="Libs\LibSharedMedia-3.0\lib.xml |
| 04:15.38 | Shirik | </Ui> |
| 04:15.40 | Shirik | hmmm |
| 04:15.44 | Shirik | :D |
| 04:16.01 | Seerah | ? |
| 04:16.09 | Shirik | missing a few characters at the end there :) |
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| 04:16.26 | Seerah | oh. that's the one I added in a hurry a couple mins ago -.- |
| 04:16.31 | Shirik | :) |
| 04:16.33 | Shirik | I fixed it |
| 04:16.50 | Shirik | oh wow |
| 04:16.51 | Seerah | I'm sorry |
| 04:16.56 | Seerah | now what? |
| 04:16.57 | Shirik | your config screen dances |
| 04:17.04 | Seerah | dances? |
| 04:17.18 | Shirik | yeah, I chagned something |
| 04:17.23 | Shirik | and then all the widgets moved |
| 04:17.49 | Seerah | was it the window's width? |
| 04:17.52 | Shirik | I see what you mean by locked to the left though |
| 04:17.55 | Shirik | I don't know what I was playing with |
| 04:18.06 | Seerah | the bar height and font size are okay |
| 04:18.20 | Seerah | bar width is *somtimes* okay |
| 04:18.32 | Seerah | xpos and ypos, though... |
| 04:19.00 | Shirik | Is there any way to get frBarBG from outside code? |
| 04:19.23 | Seerah | make it not loca |
| 04:19.25 | Seerah | *local |
| 04:19.33 | Shirik | I meant without changing anything, heh :) |
| 04:19.36 | Seerah | no :) |
| 04:19.37 | Shirik | so it's not globally accessible somehow |
| 04:19.38 | Shirik | ok |
| 04:19.58 | Seerah | the test button shows the bar though |
| 04:20.06 | Shirik | not to me, heh |
| 04:20.13 | Shirik | may just be off the screen or something |
| 04:20.14 | Seerah | no? |
| 04:20.27 | Seerah | by default it's center |
| 04:20.38 | Seerah | oh, maybe the stuck sliders, though |
| 04:20.40 | |Jelly| | http://i35.tinypic.com/2d1p9ud.jpg WTB translation. |
| 04:21.20 | Seerah | lol |
| 04:21.31 | Adys | i think he's trying to tell you how koool u r |
| 04:21.39 | |Jelly| | Well, I know that. |
| 04:21.44 | Seerah | cuz ur in teh guild |
| 04:22.05 | |Jelly| | (I'm an officer of the guild) I'm still confused as to what in the hell he wants and he keeps repeating himself. lol |
| 04:22.11 | |Jelly| | I hope he's drunk |
| 04:22.18 | Shirik | yo sup |Jelly|, wut be kickin in da houz |
| 04:22.28 | |Jelly| | Yeah Shirik. |
| 04:22.39 | |Jelly| | So who wants to split a hotel room at Blizzcon? :P |
| 04:22.55 | Shirik | was that a serious question? |
| 04:23.01 | |Jelly| | Yes |
| 04:23.16 | Adys | and if it is, are you a blonde girl in her twenties? |
| 04:23.21 | Shirik | rofl |
| 04:23.27 | |Jelly| | Hmm. |
| 04:23.31 | |Jelly| | Yes? |
| 04:23.38 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:23.48 | Shirik | I might be able to do that, actually. I need to double check first, but currently I'm alone :P |
| 04:23.58 | Shirik | I might have restrictions on my room though, I have to check them |
| 04:24.07 | |Jelly| | Such as? |
| 04:24.12 | |Jelly| | Cause I don't smoke or any of that shit. |
| 04:24.18 | Shirik | that's not what I meant :) |
| 04:24.34 | |Jelly| | OR did you mean you can't bunk with people?!?!?! CAUSE MY FEELINGS WILL BE HURT! |
| 04:25.10 | Seerah | I think he means that he already got a room |
| 04:25.33 | |Jelly| | I think he means ... he's afraid of SURPRISE BUTT SECKS! |
| 04:25.50 | Adys | so you're not really a blonde in her twenties? |
| 04:25.51 | Adys | well shit |
| 04:25.53 | Seerah | that's his restriction :) |
| 04:25.54 | Cairenn | no, I know what he's talking about |
| 04:26.28 | Seerah | wtb Blizzcon tickets |
| 04:27.02 | Shirik | well Seerah, your set function is never being called |
| 04:27.08 | Shirik | with a large number |
| 04:27.45 | Shirik | unfortuantely, I don't know enough about Ace to go any further -- I can give you that much; the problem appears to be within the GUI framework itself |
| 04:27.57 | |Jelly| | ACE RDX! |
| 04:28.01 | Shirik | omg no |
| 04:28.34 | Seerah | so you're saying it's a problem with the library? |
| 04:28.40 | Shirik | well |
| 04:28.46 | Shirik | either a problem with the library or you're using it wrong :) |
| 04:29.00 | Shirik | I can tell you with absolute certainty that your set() function is not being called as you expect it to be |
| 04:29.22 | Shirik | specifically, when I drag the width slider up beyond its midpoint, it jumps back to 50, and that's what set() is actually being called with |
| 04:29.53 | Seerah | but 2 of them are working fine... is it cause of the smaller numbers? |
| 04:37.11 | Shirik | maybe |
| 04:37.17 | Shirik | I can't really tell without going deep into the library |
| 04:37.36 | Shirik | I thought maybe the lack of a step would be the problem? |
| 04:38.27 | Shirik | actually Seerah |
| 04:38.31 | Shirik | I added step=10 to your width |
| 04:38.34 | Shirik | and it works well |
| 04:38.38 | Shirik | I think that's probably it |
| 04:38.46 | Shirik | it's trying to do too big of a range with a very tiny step |
| 04:39.03 | Seerah | I had tried step = 1 and it was still moving with decimals... |
| 04:39.07 | Seerah | so I gave up on that |
| 04:39.16 | Seerah | I'll try it :) |
| 04:44.39 | Shirik | time for bed, nite nite |
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| 04:55.30 | Adys | http://lua.pastebin.com/m2efabc55 |
| 04:55.38 | Adys | where does this arg1 come from? oO |
| 04:56.48 | Iriel | its an old-school style argument global |
| 04:57.19 | Adys | um |
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| 05:12.11 | AlexanderYoshi | Can anyone point me to an MPQ extractor? |
| 05:12.21 | kd3 | sec |
| 05:12.24 | AlexanderYoshi | I need to extract some interface art |
| 05:12.26 | ScytheBlade1 | google "mpqedit" |
| 05:12.28 | AlexanderYoshi | from the beta |
| 05:12.34 | kd3 | http://www.zezula.net/en/mpq/download.html |
| 05:12.37 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 05:12.53 | ScytheBlade1 | That's Ladik's stuff, should support everything that the WoW MPQs support |
| 05:17.44 | AlexanderYoshi | k |
| 05:17.51 | AlexanderYoshi | Wow, I can't find the interface folder art |
| 05:17.52 | AlexanderYoshi | wtf |
| 05:18.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah the MPQs are a mess :) |
| 05:18.59 | Xuerian | Good luck digging around in those things |
| 05:19.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Which files are you looking for exactly? I was digging around in them the other day |
| 05:19.53 | kd3 | they're in data/enUS/locale-enus.mpq |
| 05:20.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah, yup, there they are |
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| 05:20.44 | AlexanderYoshi | ahhh |
| 05:20.48 | AlexanderYoshi | the rune backgrounds |
| 05:21.16 | AlexanderYoshi | does Antiarc still live? |
| 05:21.21 | Antiarc | I lives. |
| 05:21.30 | AlexanderYoshi | excellent |
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| 05:34.08 | Adys | What has SetText() been replaced by in wlk? |
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| 05:42.02 | Iriel | ? |
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| 05:53.24 | Adys | Iriel: SetText() has been renamed, we were talking about it earlier on with um I think Antiarc actually |
| 05:53.34 | Iriel | On what object? |
| 05:53.38 | Antiarc | Don't think it was me |
| 05:53.39 | Antiarc | Oh, buttons? |
| 05:53.43 | Adys | Yea |
| 05:53.50 | Antiarc | SetTextFontObject -> SetNormalFontObject |
| 05:54.01 | Adys | ah cheers |
| 05:54.12 | AlexanderYoshi | can someone point me to a BLP converted |
| 05:54.14 | AlexanderYoshi | converter |
| 05:54.29 | Antiarc | There's a Java one that I've used |
| 05:54.32 | Antiarc | Lemme see if I can find it |
| 05:54.39 | Iriel | Yes, SetText is exactly where it was supposed to be.. It's the Font ones that moved. |
| 05:54.48 | Antiarc | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/1436/ is it |
| 05:55.04 | nevcairiel | there is alos a onling blp2png --> http://www.wowprogramming.com/utils/blp2png |
| 05:55.08 | nevcairiel | *also |
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| 05:57.30 | AlexanderYoshi | hmm |
| 05:57.38 | AlexanderYoshi | looked like it mangled it |
| 05:57.39 | AlexanderYoshi | oh well |
| 06:00.16 | Antiarc | You can also use TGAs |
| 06:00.25 | Antiarc | Which I usually do because BLPs are just a pain |
| 06:00.39 | Antiarc | And uncompressed TGAs compress nicely in zips anyhow :P |
| 06:00.43 | nevcairiel | jup 32-bit TGAs are the win |
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| 06:28.00 | AlexanderYoshi | Is it possible to modify the FrameXML in beta? |
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| 06:28.47 | nevcairiel | I would hope not, but what do i know. :) |
| 06:29.20 | Fisker- | sure let me just check, just throw me a eu beta key |
| 06:29.21 | Fisker- | :D |
| 06:30.00 | nevcairiel | Not that it would help you registering your key on the page thats still not online :D |
| 06:30.00 | Antiarc | I'll have to check |
| 06:30.01 | Antiarc | FYI |
| 06:30.06 | Antiarc | Floating Chat Frame has issues in beta :P |
| 06:30.18 | Cairenn | Antiarc: I presume that you haven't changed your username on WoWI to "logo", have you? |
| 06:30.23 | Antiarc | Nope |
| 06:30.28 | Fisker- | nevcairiel the key still works |
| 06:30.30 | Antiarc | I'm antiarc |
| 06:30.39 | Cairenn | I know, I was being facetious |
| 06:30.41 | Fisker- | they just don't have their fancy page online or character copies online |
| 06:30.54 | Fisker- | But for some reason i already have 2 characters and i could always make a death knight :P |
| 06:30.56 | Cairenn | someone just uploaded hemlock as boison |
| 06:31.27 | nevcairiel | How do you know you have 2 chars if you cant even login? |
| 06:31.41 | Fisker- | On the 2.4.3 PTR |
| 06:31.50 | Antiarc | That wasn't me |
| 06:31.58 | Fisker- | when i saw my character history, it said i had 2 characters transferred to the alpha server |
| 06:32.05 | Fisker- | though i don't know if it's accurate |
| 06:32.05 | Cairenn | heh |
| 06:32.20 | Antiarc | I need to port Hemlock to Ace3 |
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| 06:32.38 | nevcairiel | and rename it to boison! |
| 06:33.11 | Fisker- | You could almost say that "new" authors don't count |
| 06:33.35 | nevcairiel | mmm need beta access, want to work on bartender *cry* |
| 06:33.49 | Fisker- | ditto on the beta access |
| 06:33.50 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 06:34.02 | nevcairiel | you have no real reason Fisker-, you dont count |
| 06:34.08 | Tekkub | anyone got a base64 decoder in lua handy? |
| 06:34.18 | Tekkub | I know at least one lib/addon out there used it |
| 06:34.19 | Fisker- | The EU realms are a sandbox anyways i don't need a reason |
| 06:34.24 | Antiarc | I don't think that's base64, Tekkub :P |
| 06:34.38 | Tekkub | then what you think it is? |
| 06:34.39 | Antiarc | Maybe it is, but it didn't look like it to me |
| 06:34.40 | Tekkub | *cry* |
| 06:34.54 | Antiarc | I dunno, something proprietary |
| 06:34.54 | Antiarc | Ask AlexanderYoshi :P |
| 06:35.01 | Tekkub | well what the hell is "%I64X" then? |
| 06:35.05 | Tekkub | YOSHI! |
| 06:35.10 | Antiarc | Google says hex for a longlong |
| 06:35.13 | Antiarc | But I dunno |
| 06:35.17 | Antiarc | That doesn't look like hex to me |
| 06:35.23 | Antiarc | Which is why I thought maybe bitshifted hex |
| 06:35.36 | Tekkub | longlongdong |
| 06:36.02 | AlexanderYoshi | what? |
| 06:36.10 | Tekkub | why would they bitshift? |
| 06:36.19 | Tekkub | Yosh, trying to decode the new trade links |
| 06:36.22 | AlexanderYoshi | oh |
| 06:36.32 | Tekkub | |cffffd000|Htrade:3273:270:300:5774C:m;7Pn?|h[First Aid]|h|r |
| 06:36.32 | AlexanderYoshi | good luck |
| 06:36.44 | AlexanderYoshi | its bits to indicate which spells yo know |
| 06:36.55 | AlexanderYoshi | the guy who did it probably had to encode it |
| 06:37.04 | Tekkub | I was kinda thinking that... |
| 06:37.26 | Tekkub | but we can't find the code to decode it anywhere, so we're thinking it's not done in lua-space |
| 06:37.41 | batrick | !lua 24*365 |
| 06:37.42 | batbot | batrick: > 8760 |
| 06:38.03 | Antiarc | If it's bits that's easy |
| 06:38.12 | Antiarc | 2 or 3 chars per spell ID |
| 06:38.26 | Antiarc | Probably base 64 or something |
| 06:38.43 | Tekkub | did I not say base64 earlier? |
| 06:38.49 | Antiarc | base 64, not base64 :P |
| 06:38.54 | Tekkub | and you were all like "bitshifted hex!" |
| 06:39.12 | Tekkub | whitespace is ignored! :P |
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| 06:40.26 | Fisker- | moar like bitshifted hax |
| 06:40.47 | Fisker- | shouldn't it be Spell btw? |
| 06:40.51 | Fisker- | instead of Trade? |
| 06:41.00 | Tekkub | no, it's trade |
| 06:41.10 | Tekkub | it's not a spell link |
| 06:41.16 | Antiarc | It's trade. It pops open a tradecraft window |
| 06:41.20 | Antiarc | With everything that person knows |
| 06:41.20 | Fisker- | >:O |
| 06:41.21 | Antiarc | It's hot. |
| 06:41.21 | Tekkub | it's a link to everything you know in that trade |
| 06:41.29 | Antiarc | I discovered it this morning. |
| 06:41.31 | Antiarc | It was all :O |
| 06:41.38 | Antiarc | And then I talked to my guildmate who writes for wowinsider |
| 06:41.40 | Antiarc | And he was all :O |
| 06:41.47 | Antiarc | And I was all SCREENSNOT |
| 06:41.52 | Antiarc | And he was all :O |
| 06:41.52 | Fisker- | everyone from wowinsider is all :O about everything :D |
| 06:41.52 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 06:41.54 | Tekkub | and I was all :O <====8 this morning |
| 06:43.16 | nevcairiel | now you killed the fun |
| 06:43.48 | Fisker- | TokenUI is boring btw |
| 06:44.44 | AlexanderYoshi | legal texture sizes are multiples of 32 right? |
| 06:45.14 | ScytheBlade1 | I thought it was just powers of 2 up to 512x512? |
| 06:45.21 | AlexanderYoshi | crap |
| 06:45.25 | ScytheBlade1 | ie no min limit |
| 06:45.26 | AlexanderYoshi | 512 is max? |
| 06:45.28 | Tekkub | what scyth said |
| 06:45.30 | ScytheBlade1 | iirc |
| 06:45.31 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 06:45.33 | AlexanderYoshi | crap |
| 06:45.34 | AlexanderYoshi | ok |
| 06:45.36 | AlexanderYoshi | resizing |
| 06:45.50 | Fisker- | it's 1024 now? |
| 06:46.00 | Fisker- | Atleast i know the loading screen are 1024x1024 now |
| 06:46.00 | Fisker- | :D |
| 06:46.07 | Fisker- | perhaps textures can have the same size |
| 06:46.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Loading screens are a bit different |
| 06:46.14 | Fisker- | aww |
| 06:46.14 | Fisker- | :( |
| 06:46.51 | Fisker- | nice with higher res loading screens btw |
| 06:47.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Did they add loading screens in aspect ratios other than 4:3 by chance? |
| 06:47.42 | AlexanderYoshi | I think there's just black banding |
| 06:47.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Because they look awesome at 1024x768 but no so awesome at 1440x900 with black boxes on the sides :P |
| 06:47.50 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah |
| 06:48.58 | ScytheBlade1 | " Format: .blp or .tga, only power-of-two dimensions (16, 32, 64, 128, 256, and 512) with 256 colors (8 BPP (bits per pixel)) max. " |
| 06:49.01 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Texture_SetTexture |
| 06:49.23 | ScytheBlade1 | So yeah, powers of 2 up to 512x512 max |
| 06:50.23 | AlexanderYoshi | your Game interface files are corrupt |
| 06:50.23 | AlexanderYoshi | lol |
| 06:50.34 | AlexanderYoshi | no kidding they're corrupt |
| 06:50.34 | AlexanderYoshi | lol |
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| 06:54.15 | Tekkub | the trade links taunt me |
| 06:54.46 | Antiarc | They taunted me too |
| 06:54.51 | Antiarc | Then I was all "lawls, just click it" |
| 06:54.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Haunts me too, because it totally demolished this addon idea I had :P |
| 06:54.54 | Antiarc | And forgot about them |
| 06:55.00 | Antiarc | But Chatter supports them now |
| 06:55.02 | Antiarc | So I'm happy |
| 06:55.32 | Lonny | Is there anyway I can contact the worldofwar.net admins ? I want to remove the addons I used to host there few years ago ? :) |
| 06:55.40 | Tekkub | it's not base64 |
| 06:55.40 | Antiarc | heh, good luck |
| 06:57.49 | Antiarc | The strings of "o"s intrigue me |
| 06:58.26 | Adys | I am not totally sure its the spell IDs in the trade links |
| 06:58.34 | Antiarc | It breaks down into groups of 4 nicely |
| 06:58.43 | Antiarc | It may just be flags |
| 06:58.43 | Tekkub | yea |
| 06:58.44 | Adys | it could be an unique id to the tradeskill itself |
| 06:58.46 | Antiarc | Yeah |
| 06:58.48 | Adys | or flags yes |
| 06:59.11 | Tekkub | also, the first aid one is 6 chars, and there's 11 recipies he'd know |
| 06:59.26 | Tekkub | 9 if he didn't know the poison ones |
| 06:59.58 | Tekkub | maybe 'o' is unknowns? |
| 07:00.02 | Adys | Im also pretty sure the encoding is different for each tradeskill |
| 07:00.09 | AlexanderYoshi | I feel like such a scrub asking these questions |
| 07:00.11 | Adys | since runeforging doesnt have one |
| 07:00.20 | Fisker- | well you are AlexanderYoshi :) |
| 07:00.21 | AlexanderYoshi | how do I set the Z stack level of a texture in XML? |
| 07:00.24 | AlexanderYoshi | Yep |
| 07:00.26 | AlexanderYoshi | I am now |
| 07:00.29 | AlexanderYoshi | once I was a master |
| 07:00.32 | AlexanderYoshi | now I am but a peon |
| 07:00.36 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 07:00.42 | Tekkub | ha ha , you're peedon |
| 07:00.43 | ScytheBlade1 | You've still got the +o :P |
| 07:00.50 | AlexanderYoshi | seriously |
| 07:00.56 | AlexanderYoshi | how do I make a texture go behind another layr |
| 07:00.58 | AlexanderYoshi | layer |
| 07:00.59 | Fisker- | Not working for Blizzard anymore? |
| 07:01.05 | Tekkub | I want two trade links with only one spell difference damnit |
| 07:01.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Don't you just set the -- why can't I think of the name now... |
| 07:01.22 | Adys | tekkub, grab a low level and get cooking |
| 07:01.31 | Adys | theres fishing recipes for like 25c |
| 07:01.37 | Tekkub | Adys, not in beta yet because CAIR won't send a batch early |
| 07:01.38 | Tekkub | :) |
| 07:01.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Would adjusting the strata work? |
| 07:01.45 | AlexanderYoshi | asdf |
| 07:01.47 | Adys | ah |
| 07:01.50 | Adys | ill do it for you |
| 07:02.04 | Tekkub | DO IT! CHUG! CHUG! CHUG! CHUG! CHUG! CHUG! |
| 07:02.09 | Antiarc | Tekkub: I was going to do that |
| 07:02.13 | Antiarc | But you have to be level 5 to learn tradeskills |
| 07:02.13 | Adys | Ill do anything for you you know it |
| 07:02.15 | Tekkub | you do it too |
| 07:02.16 | AlexanderYoshi | I used <Layer level="BACKGROUND"> |
| 07:02.19 | Antiarc | And then I said "level 5, screw that" |
| 07:02.19 | Tekkub | more data == better |
| 07:02.31 | Antiarc | AlexanderYoshi: Texture stacking has always been funky for me |
| 07:02.35 | Antiarc | USe multiple frames for best results |
| 07:02.38 | Tekkub | level 5? DK! |
| 07:02.39 | AlexanderYoshi | thats fine |
| 07:02.46 | AlexanderYoshi | how do I put a frame behind another frame then |
| 07:03.06 | Adys | Tekkub: Cant use DK for it they got 3 hours of quests until you can get them out of the startzone |
| 07:03.07 | Tekkub | frame:putbehind(otherframe); frame:hump() |
| 07:03.14 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 07:03.14 | AlexanderYoshi | I hate you, Tekkub |
| 07:03.16 | Adys | but luckily I levelled 3 dks :P |
| 07:03.17 | ScytheBlade1 | irl lol |
| 07:03.32 | Tekkub | really? you can't run out at all? |
| 07:03.42 | Adys | yeah |
| 07:03.42 | Adys | its an instance |
| 07:03.42 | Tekkub | let me guess, no mailbox either? |
| 07:03.45 | Adys | there are |
| 07:03.55 | Tekkub | I think you know my plan here :) |
| 07:04.05 | Adys | Im on EU my dear |
| 07:04.11 | Tekkub | newbie bag and cheap green armor fund! |
| 07:04.15 | Adys | I got lvl 57 dks :) |
| 07:04.30 | Adys | even got one in shatt, brb |
| 07:04.33 | Tekkub | make DK, sell armor, mail cash, delete DK |
| 07:04.42 | Adys | 1 copper armor >< |
| 07:04.47 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 07:04.54 | Tekkub | what about the quest rewards though? |
| 07:04.54 | Adys | actually |
| 07:04.56 | Fisker- | Tekkub thinks blizzard is stupid ;_; |
| 07:05.00 | Adys | one of the rings is like 1.37s |
| 07:05.07 | Fisker- | Tekkub you could do the same as a daily anyways |
| 07:05.08 | Antiarc | AlexanderYoshi: Parent one to the other is the easiest way |
| 07:05.31 | Tekkub | you couldn't do a daily when you don't have any toons leveled pu on that server/farction yet |
| 07:05.44 | Adys | Antiarc: Whats the script to grab a tradeskill link? /lazy |
| 07:05.56 | Fisker- | Then why sell your armor and mail cash? |
| 07:06.06 | Antiarc | GetTradeSkillListLink() |
| 07:06.18 | Tekkub | I don't think blizzy is stupid, but I do think Fister is |
| 07:06.24 | Fisker- | :< |
| 07:06.32 | Adys | Antiarc: What do I escape? backslashes? |
| 07:06.35 | Adys | er |
| 07:06.41 | Adys | or however they are called |
| 07:06.41 | Adys | pipes |
| 07:07.01 | Tekkub | Fisker-, I don't have a hordie. I want to start a non-DK hordie, and have a little cash.... |
| 07:07.15 | Tekkub | make a horde DK, get some cash, mail it to new alt, delete DK |
| 07:07.18 | Fisker- | ah |
| 07:07.42 | Tekkub | I'm not talking anything more than a few gold, you know, starter bag and cheap green gear money |
| 07:08.04 | Fisker- | I just thought you were thinking about in live to just make a DK, sell armor, make DK, sell armor, etc. |
| 07:08.04 | Tekkub | not think I'll "farm" DKs for money :P |
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| 07:08.28 | ScytheBlade1 | iirc all starting armor has an awesome value of 1c |
| 07:08.35 | Fisker- | yeah i know |
| 07:08.47 | Tekkub | someone said that :P |
| 07:08.52 | Adys | except a ring ScytheBlade1 ! |
| 07:08.52 | ScytheBlade1 | While that applies at level 1, I can see them sticking the same value on starting DK armor :P |
| 07:08.52 | Adys | 1s37 ! |
| 07:08.52 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 07:08.54 | Tekkub | but what about the quest rewards? |
| 07:09.00 | Adys | they arent cheap |
| 07:09.03 | Adys | like 1g piece |
| 07:09.09 | Tekkub | exactly :) |
| 07:09.18 | Antiarc | yeah, pipes |
| 07:09.24 | Tekkub | a small time investment for starter funding |
| 07:09.29 | Adys | shit |
| 07:09.32 | Adys | forget that Tekkub |
| 07:09.35 | Adys | must have dreamt |
| 07:09.38 | Adys | they are 1c :P |
| 07:09.54 | Adys | ooo trinket is 1g |
| 07:09.57 | Fisker- | F5F5F5F5F5 |
| 07:10.06 | Adys | well anyway got tons of money |
| 07:11.20 | Adys | okay so |
| 07:12.33 | Adys | |cffffd000|Htrade:2550:1:75:64BA7:700000104000000@000000000|h[Cooking]|h|r |
| 07:12.50 | Adys | thats the basic one, 1/75 herb Baked egg + roasted boar meat + charred wolf meat + spice bread |
| 07:13.03 | Tekkub | hrm.... |
| 07:13.09 | Adys | I learn Recipe: Brilliant Smallfish |
| 07:13.10 | Antiarc | 3 bits set |
| 07:13.16 | Tekkub | so it's probably not a bynamic length |
| 07:13.49 | Adys | |cffffd000|Htrade:2550:1:75:64BA7:7000@0104000000@000000000|h[Cooking]|h|r |
| 07:13.54 | Antiarc | Hey AlexanderYoshi |
| 07:13.55 | ScytheBlade1 | What of the earlier strings? Namely the 65BA7? |
| 07:14.10 | Antiarc | Suggest a ready check for arenas, so I can check ready and when everyone on both teams is ready, it counts down 5 sec and the match starts |
| 07:14.12 | Tekkub | not sure there |
| 07:14.18 | Antiarc | Waiting for arena matches to start is the worst thing ever :( |
| 07:14.26 | Adys | any other lvl 1 cooking recipe? |
| 07:14.27 | Tekkub | before that is spellid:skill:max skill |
| 07:14.53 | ScytheBlade1 | 64BA7 interests me for some reason :/ |
| 07:14.54 | Adys | 64BA7 might be a decryption key |
| 07:15.09 | Adys | maybe the unique id of the skill, one sec |
| 07:15.22 | Antiarc | I have 5544C for my cooking |
| 07:15.24 | Adys | first aid got 64BA7 |
| 07:15.27 | Adys | well fuck that |
| 07:15.28 | Adys | hmm |
| 07:15.41 | Adys | ooh, might be character related |
| 07:15.51 | Antiarc | To display the picture |
| 07:15.57 | Tekkub | your GUID or something? |
| 07:15.59 | Antiarc | When you open the tradeskill frame |
| 07:16.00 | Adys | Could be that |
| 07:16.05 | Adys | or your guid, yes |
| 07:16.09 | Antiarc | Get UnitGUID("player") |
| 07:16.13 | Antiarc | See what shows up there |
| 07:16.23 | Tekkub | and then hex it up :) |
| 07:16.28 | Adys | indeed |
| 07:16.32 | Adys | 0x00...64BA7 |
| 07:16.39 | AlexanderYoshi | lol |
| 07:16.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Isn't it already hexed? |
| 07:16.42 | Antiarc | Okay, so guid, mystery solved |
| 07:16.44 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 07:16.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Indeed |
| 07:16.46 | Tekkub | hehe |
| 07:17.36 | Tekkub | so we have |Htrade:<spell id>:<skill>:<max skill>:<GUID>:<???>|h[Profit]|h|r |
| 07:17.44 | Adys | haha |
| 07:17.50 | ScytheBlade1 | [Profit] ftw |
| 07:18.06 | Adys | my first aid is.. sec |
| 07:18.25 | Adys | 64BA7:m;7Pn?|h[First Aid]|h|r |
| 07:18.28 | Tekkub | kd3's was |cffffd000|Htrade:3273:270:300:5774C:m;7Pn?|h[First Aid]|h|r |
| 07:18.41 | Adys | dk starting first aid |
| 07:18.54 | Tekkub | you know the poison ones, or only bandaids? |
| 07:19.01 | Adys | checking |
| 07:19.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Maybe take a look at the API calls for when you click the link? |
| 07:19.16 | Tekkub | we couldn't find any ScytheBlade1 |
| 07:19.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 07:19.24 | Adys | antivenom, wool silk mageweave linen, heavy wool silk linen mageweave |
| 07:19.24 | ScytheBlade1 | That's awfully tricky :P |
| 07:19.25 | Adys | and runecloth |
| 07:19.32 | Fisker- | i see what you did there Tekkub |
| 07:19.49 | Tekkub | Fister's slow too |
| 07:20.32 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/beta/Blizzard Interface Data (enUS).zip |
| 07:20.34 | Antiarc | Forgive the spaces |
| 07:20.35 | AlexanderYoshi | where is the UI changelog? |
| 07:20.38 | Antiarc | But that's the wow UI |
| 07:20.41 | AlexanderYoshi | the blizzard ui changelog |
| 07:20.41 | Antiarc | For beta |
| 07:20.43 | AlexanderYoshi | yah |
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| 07:20.55 | AlexanderYoshi | sweet |
| 07:20.58 | AlexanderYoshi | great timing |
| 07:21.02 | Adys | Tekkub: Ill go learn fishing |
| 07:21.08 | Adys | fuck that nvm |
| 07:21.16 | ScytheBlade1 | AlexanderYoshi: what exactly are you doing? I'm all sorts of curious now :P |
| 07:22.04 | Adys | okay so blacksmithing |
| 07:22.47 | Tekkub | there's 18 spells in wrath first aid |
| 07:22.55 | Tekkub | and 6 chars... |
| 07:23.00 | Tekkub | 3 spells per char? |
| 07:23.13 | Adys | blacksmithing is 2018:1:75:64BA7:Gfucktonofzeroidontwannawritethat |
| 07:23.19 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 07:23.40 | Antiarc | Adys: Install Chatter |
| 07:23.43 | Antiarc | Use the CopyChat feature |
| 07:23.44 | Antiarc | Profit! |
| 07:23.52 | Adys | [Profit?!] |
| 07:23.52 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/beta/Chatter-78789-wotlk.zip |
| 07:23.56 | Adys | thanks :) |
| 07:25.44 | Adys | sweet |
| 07:25.58 | Tekkub | oh, a thought, when viewing someone else's trade list, does it show the grey-to-orange color scale? |
| 07:26.18 | Adys | No idea |
| 07:26.20 | Adys | but |
| 07:26.26 | Adys | I suppose that could be done with current skill no? |
| 07:26.38 | Tekkub | oh true |
| 07:27.14 | Tekkub | how big is an lua char, one byte? |
| 07:27.21 | *** join/#wowuidev cncfanatics (i=50c9b310@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c5770aad857f0770) |
| 07:27.40 | cncfanatics | anyone know wtf is up with eu realms ? |
| 07:27.43 | Adys | "|cffffd000|Htrade:2018:1:75:64BA7:G0000000000000000002000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000|h[Blacksmithing]|h|r" |
| 07:28.01 | Adys | rough sharpening stone + rough weightstone + copper bracers + rough copper vest |
| 07:28.16 | Adys | I learn copper chain pants |
| 07:28.30 | Tekkub | yea they get longer and longer, it must be some sort of bit flags for every available recipe |
| 07:28.48 | Adys | "|cffffd000|Htrade:2018:1:75:64BA7:G000000000000000000200000000000000000000000000000000000000000000@000|h[Blacksmithing]|h|r" |
| 07:29.21 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 07:29.31 | cncfanatics | so if someone links his prof we cld possibly know all the recipes he has ? |
| 07:29.33 | ScytheBlade1 | the spell behind copper chain pants is 2662 |
| 07:29.34 | cncfanatics | prevent scamming ftw ? |
| 07:29.40 | Adys | AYe cnc |
| 07:29.41 | ScytheBlade1 | cncfanatics: yes, we do |
| 07:29.53 | Adys | are there THAT many blacksmithing recipes ? |
| 07:29.56 | Tekkub | that's the whole point cnc |
| 07:29.59 | Adys | to make this string optimized |
| 07:30.16 | nevcairiel | probably yes |
| 07:30.20 | nevcairiel | there are alot |
| 07:30.21 | Tekkub | BS, 393 minus the rank "spells" |
| 07:30.30 | Adys | + wlk ones |
| 07:31.03 | Antiarc | |cffffd000|Htrade:51313:375:450:5544C:hooooooooookoooooooomGWRcoNoKlg<kgoOoEP6880000l11|h[Enchanting]|h|r is my enchanting |
| 07:31.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Much sharter than BS |
| 07:31.19 | Tekkub | 383 BS spells |
| 07:31.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Err |
| 07:31.27 | Tekkub | in wrath |
| 07:31.29 | ScytheBlade1 | ooooooooo not 000000000 |
| 07:31.38 | cncfanatics | can link my alchemy , jewelcrafting & leatherworking later |
| 07:31.45 | cncfanatics | got all those 3 max'd up on diff chars :p |
| 07:32.05 | *** join/#wowuidev quoin (n=quoin@219-90-200-45.static.adam.com.au) |
| 07:32.11 | Adys | "|cffffd000|Htrade:45357:1:75:64BA7:1900002|h[Inscription]|h|r" |
| 07:32.15 | Adys | default one |
| 07:32.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Inscription is a pretty tiny not nearly completed tradeskill though, right? |
| 07:33.03 | Adys | Indeed, it didnt have more than three spells in the alpha |
| 07:33.20 | *** join/#wowuidev QQngsk (n=Gngsk@c-68-55-245-105.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 07:33.23 | Tekkub | how is it you bastards were in alpha but not me? |
| 07:33.26 | Tekkub | noone loves me |
| 07:33.34 | Adys | and in there I can do scroll of stam, ivory ink and silver ink |
| 07:33.54 | Adys | hmm, a shot in the dark but .. |
| 07:34.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Tekkub: srsly, join the party (those without alpha that is) |
| 07:34.29 | Adys | nm |
| 07:34.36 | Tekkub | Adys, wut? |
| 07:34.46 | Adys | was thinking tools were affected |
| 07:34.50 | Adys | they are not |
| 07:34.56 | Adys | trying engi |
| 07:34.58 | Antiarc | I know a guy with connections! |
| 07:35.20 | nevcairiel | so get us beta keys! |
| 07:35.32 | cncfanatics | everyone is gonna get beta keys anyway ? :p |
| 07:35.34 | Antiarc | He was pushing it getting me in! |
| 07:35.48 | ScytheBlade1 | wtb connections |
| 07:36.05 | Adys | "|cffffd000|Htrade:4036:1:75:64BA7:i0000000000000000000000>003000000000000000080|h[Engineering]|h|r" |
| 07:36.22 | Adys | Engineering with crafted light shot, rought dynamite, rough blasting powder |
| 07:36.34 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17207 <== all the connection you need :) |
| 07:36.49 | nevcairiel | cant .. wait .. much .. longer |
| 07:36.50 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 07:36.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: I vote you send in ticket #4 right about.... |
| 07:37.00 | ScytheBlade1 | ... now |
| 07:37.01 | ScytheBlade1 | ;0 |
| 07:37.05 | ScytheBlade1 | * ;) |
| 07:37.07 | nevcairiel | 20 too, imho |
| 07:37.08 | Cairenn | heh |
| 07:37.10 | Tekkub | I vote you send the first batch |
| 07:37.16 | Tekkub | a week is just torture |
| 07:37.20 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 07:37.30 | Tekkub | I'll mail you kittens |
| 07:37.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Tekkub: that *may* end poorly |
| 07:38.06 | Tekkub | I'll make sure they're well padded in peanuts. cats love packing peanuts |
| 07:38.26 | Adys | What are the ascii offsets of i, h and G ? |
| 07:38.31 | ScytheBlade1 | They also like food and hate enclosed spaces like a box filled with packing peanuts |
| 07:38.33 | Adys | just curious |
| 07:38.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Adys: numbers much much too small for spellids |
| 07:38.48 | Adys | those arent spell ids |
| 07:38.49 | ScytheBlade1 | s/small/large/ |
| 07:38.51 | Tekkub | my cats love to be in boxes |
| 07:38.57 | ScytheBlade1 | I mean the spellids that the professions know |
| 07:39.01 | Adys | Yep |
| 07:39.08 | Adys | but im talking about skill ids atm |
| 07:39.11 | cncfanatics | they might hold two ? |
| 07:39.20 | Tekkub | but at the same time they seem to big to be simple bit flags |
| 07:39.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Do we have a list of skillids? |
| 07:39.25 | cncfanatics | or more then two (I don't know the exact size of those things) |
| 07:39.34 | ScytheBlade1 | I wasn't aware that we did |
| 07:39.34 | Adys | sure thottbot/wowhead/etc |
| 07:39.34 | *** join/#wowuidev bleeter_ (n=bleeter@guifications/developer/bleeter) |
| 07:39.49 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=27926 <-- ring enchant |
| 07:39.55 | Adys | http://www.wowhead.com/?spells=11.164 |
| 07:39.56 | Tekkub | skill id's are no shorter than item id's |
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| 07:39.56 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 07:39.59 | Adys | 164 is skill id |
| 07:40.06 | Adys | for blacksmithing |
| 07:40.25 | ScytheBlade1 | That's great, but we know it's blacksmithing :) |
| 07:40.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Take the Rough Copper Vest |
| 07:40.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Best we can tell is that it is 12260 |
| 07:40.58 | Adys | It could be anything |
| 07:41.08 | ScytheBlade1 | That's also the number that is sent in individual item (profession) links |
| 07:41.15 | Adys | the string has zeroes, etc |
| 07:41.34 | Tekkub | "Mightnight ink" someone teach that guy how to spell midnight :) |
| 07:41.59 | Antiarc | Have we looked at list of categories? |
| 07:42.10 | nevcairiel | Cant you check the UI that parses that Link on the client side? Or is that handled in C? |
| 07:42.17 | Antiarc | It's in C as far as I can tell |
| 07:42.20 | Antiarc | I can't find it in the UI code |
| 07:42.24 | Tekkub | oh shit, yea the category headers might be sent |
| 07:43.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Have we looked at any TradeskillUI changes from live? |
| 07:43.09 | Tekkub | we havn't been able to find any ref to the links in lua except the linking into chat from the spellbook |
| 07:43.22 | ScytheBlade1 | That's downright maddening |
| 07:43.33 | Tekkub | and a function to see if the trade was opened from a link, to hide the craft buttons |
| 07:44.02 | Adys | http://wow.pastebin.com/f440838ae |
| 07:44.04 | Adys | for future ref |
| 07:44.29 | cncfanatics | are the links only that way in wotlk ? |
| 07:44.30 | cncfanatics | or also live ? |
| 07:44.38 | Adys | they dont exist on live |
| 07:44.55 | ScytheBlade1 | new with wrath |
| 07:45.02 | Tekkub | okey the skills you learned took "0" to "@" |
| 07:45.13 | Tekkub | lua> string.char("@") |
| 07:45.13 | lua_bot | Tekkub: luabot:1: bad argument #1 to 'char' (number expected, got string) |
| 07:45.22 | Tekkub | lua> string.byte("@") |
| 07:45.22 | lua_bot | Tekkub: 64 |
| 07:45.26 | Tekkub | 64... |
| 07:45.31 | Adys | hah |
| 07:45.38 | Tekkub | good sign, single bit toggled |
| 07:45.38 | Antiarc | Hahahahah |
| 07:46.15 | cncfanatics | what about the i and such in the other links |
| 07:46.24 | cncfanatics | lua> string.byte("i"); |
| 07:46.25 | lua_bot | cncfanatics: 105 |
| 07:46.33 | Adys | I think it has to do with the skill id |
| 07:46.43 | Tekkub | it has to be some sort of bitflag >< |
| 07:46.45 | Adys | or the skill itself |
| 07:46.58 | cncfanatics | lua> string.byte(">"); |
| 07:47.03 | Adys | Maybe too |
| 07:47.04 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm thinking bitflag |
| 07:47.04 | lua_bot | cncfanatics: 62 |
| 07:47.08 | Adys | what else is there to learn? |
| 07:47.11 | nevcairiel | 105 is just 64 + 32 + 8 + 1 |
| 07:47.12 | nevcairiel | or so |
| 07:47.23 | ScytheBlade1 | o_o |
| 07:47.27 | *** join/#wowuidev Dekster__ (n=chatzill@netblock-68-183-40-143.dslextreme.com) |
| 07:47.28 | Fisker- | now they're thinking with binary |
| 07:47.32 | ScytheBlade1 | The entire thing might be... wow |
| 07:47.34 | Tekkub | which bits are which spells >< |
| 07:47.40 | ScytheBlade1 | That's one way to encode things |
| 07:47.43 | Antiarc | You think it's a mask? |
| 07:47.52 | nevcairiel | Tekkub: figuring that out will be nearly impossible |
| 07:47.55 | cncfanatics | Tekkub: wouldn't it be easyer to just ask Slouken how it works ? |
| 07:48.02 | Antiarc | What's the fun in that? |
| 07:48.03 | Tekkub | I think it's a client-side array of spellid's |
| 07:48.06 | cncfanatics | as nevcairiel said, figuring it all out is impossible |
| 07:48.11 | nevcairiel | I would bet its a bitflag |
| 07:48.14 | nevcairiel | one bit per spell |
| 07:48.16 | nevcairiel | in some internal order |
| 07:48.18 | ScytheBlade1 | That's kind of what I'm thinking, post our research on the forums :P |
| 07:48.22 | Tekkub | we can ask slow ken |
| 07:48.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, it's the internal order that gets to me |
| 07:48.30 | Tekkub | but I kinda don't expect an answer :( |
| 07:48.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Tekkub: we can wait and post em' on the wrath forums |
| 07:48.52 | ScytheBlade1 | (Or other can) |
| 07:48.54 | ScytheBlade1 | (Hint) |
| 07:49.05 | Tekkub | a simple query would kick so much ass.... TradeLinkContainsSpell(link, spellid) |
| 07:49.24 | Tekkub | then I could cache the links, and quickly tell the user who in their guild can make the item |
| 07:49.29 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm more interested in using those links to assemble a guild-wide database of who knows what |
| 07:49.35 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=4965919971&sid=1#2 <-wtf? |
| 07:49.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Which was an addon I was working on, until I saw this :P |
| 07:49.39 | cncfanatics | I'd rather have something that you pass it a link and it sells you all recipes it has |
| 07:49.47 | cncfanatics | so you can build a craftbook by just having a link |
| 07:49.59 | cncfanatics | someone just links his prof in trade and everyone can see all his recipes :p |
| 07:50.00 | Tekkub | that's what the default UI does |
| 07:50.05 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 07:50.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Fisker-: eh oh el |
| 07:50.10 | Tekkub | it's the whole point, someone links, you see what they can make |
| 07:50.14 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 07:50.18 | *** join/#wowuidev Slakah (n=Slakah@5ac6bde9.bb.sky.com) |
| 07:50.21 | cncfanatics | ~slap cncfanatics |
| 07:50.22 | purl | ACTION slaps cncfanatics, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 07:50.26 | ScytheBlade1 | cncfanatics: we're just trying to figure out how it's encoded in that string |
| 07:50.27 | Fisker- | You'd think he'd delete the post, or atleast remove the links |
| 07:50.30 | Tekkub | but so far as we can tell, the user MUST click that link |
| 07:50.38 | Antiarc | IsTradeSkillLinked() |
| 07:50.39 | Antiarc | Is valid |
| 07:50.42 | Antiarc | :O |
| 07:50.48 | Tekkub | yea that's in the trade frame |
| 07:50.58 | Tekkub | if it was opened from a link they have to hide the craft button |
| 07:51.01 | ScytheBlade1 | It disables the craft buffon |
| 07:51.02 | Adys | great |
| 07:51.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, that |
| 07:51.04 | Adys | wine segfaulting |
| 07:51.17 | Adys | Whats that Antiarc ? |
| 07:51.18 | Tekkub | oh yea, I need to finish my chokecherry wine |
| 07:51.19 | Kalroth | Adys: l2p! |
| 07:51.22 | Tekkub | balmer peak here I come |
| 07:51.35 | Antiarc | http://pastey.net/91971 |
| 07:51.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: h4x |
| 07:52.11 | Adys | %I64X ? |
| 07:52.15 | ScytheBlade1 | GetTradeSkillLinkList() eh |
| 07:52.15 | Antiarc | Yeah |
| 07:52.19 | Adys | thats base64 conversion no? |
| 07:52.23 | Antiarc | You'd think |
| 07:52.27 | Antiarc | But these strings aren't base 64 |
| 07:52.47 | Antiarc | Look at those slot constants |
| 07:52.50 | Antiarc | Those are suspicious |
| 07:53.31 | cncfanatics | Fisker-: nothing surprising, it's been posted on a forum with lots of blues |
| 07:53.44 | Fisker- | :o? |
| 07:53.57 | Adys | m;7Pn? |
| 07:54.02 | cncfanatics | ~phail Fisker- |
| 07:54.03 | Adys | thats first aid remember |
| 07:54.08 | Tekkub | lua> string.byte("G") |
| 07:54.08 | lua_bot | Tekkub: 71 |
| 07:54.11 | Tekkub | lua> string.byte("2") |
| 07:54.12 | lua_bot | Tekkub: 50 |
| 07:54.22 | Tekkub | that was with 4 spells known... |
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| 07:54.41 | Adys | How many spells in first aid? |
| 07:55.01 | Tekkub | wrath was 18 I think |
| 07:55.24 | nevcairiel | every char is in theory 8 spells, if the bit theory holds |
| 07:55.45 | Tekkub | yea, but the first aid string is 6 chars |
| 07:55.46 | Adys | well |
| 07:55.47 | nevcairiel | but that seems like a lot for 1st aid |
| 07:55.49 | Adys | a lot could be unused |
| 07:55.50 | Tekkub | for 18 spells? |
| 07:55.52 | cncfanatics | the bit theory is what makes most sense |
| 07:56.05 | cncfanatics | but, ain't blacksmithing WAY too huge ? |
| 07:56.10 | nevcairiel | well |
| 07:56.11 | cncfanatics | even with 300+ spells |
| 07:56.13 | Adys | It is yes |
| 07:56.19 | nevcairiel | a full bit mask would be 8 bit per char |
| 07:56.20 | Tekkub | BS, 68 chars for 383 spells |
| 07:56.24 | nevcairiel | but if they change it to base64 |
| 07:56.32 | nevcairiel | for chat purposes |
| 07:56.56 | nevcairiel | only 6 left |
| 07:57.02 | Tekkub | 68 char is 544 bits |
| 07:57.18 | nevcairiel | that sounds reasonable |
| 07:57.22 | Kalroth | There's most likely also a count in the first 4 bytes |
| 07:57.33 | Tekkub | a count of what? |
| 07:57.37 | Antiarc | I'M FAMOUS |
| 07:57.38 | Antiarc | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/ |
| 07:57.46 | Antiarc | AlexanderYoshi: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE have them put a "Win Omen" achievement in. |
| 07:57.53 | Kalroth | of the size of the string (or number of entries) |
| 07:57.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: WIN |
| 07:58.03 | cncfanatics | Antiarc: rofl |
| 07:58.04 | ScytheBlade1 | hahahahahah |
| 07:58.05 | cncfanatics | nice one |
| 07:58.08 | Fisker- | >:O Antiarc |
| 07:58.25 | Tekkub | I want addon achievements... lesat memory used, etc :) |
| 07:58.37 | Tekkub | longest infinate loop |
| 07:58.44 | cncfanatics | longest infinite loop ? |
| 07:58.49 | cncfanatics | lot of sense in that :p |
| 07:58.53 | ScytheBlade1 | "Win Omen" |
| 07:58.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow |
| 07:59.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Anywho it's 2:00 AM, time for the ambien :P |
| 08:00.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: new sig? ;) |
| 08:00.10 | Antiarc | I think I might have to. |
| 08:00.14 | Adys | Tekkub: think like a dev, you wouldnt want to have to update the entire array in C |
| 08:00.20 | Adys | those are stored in dbcs |
| 08:00.25 | ScytheBlade1 | That's 100% sig worthy |
| 08:00.33 | Tekkub | I don't know C |
| 08:00.40 | Tekkub | :) |
| 08:01.04 | Adys | dbcs are a bit easier to parse than compiled C code |
| 08:01.20 | Kalroth | lua> string.byte("i") |
| 08:01.20 | lua_bot | Kalroth: 105 |
| 08:02.29 | Fisker- | i can't win omen :( |
| 08:02.36 | Adys | Antiarc |
| 08:02.40 | Fisker- | also want servers and/or beta ;_; |
| 08:02.41 | Adys | how many enchants you got? |
| 08:02.43 | nevcairiel | Do tanks get that achievement if they never loose aggro in a fight? |
| 08:02.43 | Adys | and which |
| 08:02.51 | Antiarc | Uhh |
| 08:02.53 | Antiarc | Let me count |
| 08:03.17 | Adys | lua> string.byte("h") |
| 08:03.17 | lua_bot | Adys: 104 |
| 08:03.18 | Kalroth | I've won Oment quite a few times, but never with dots |
| 08:03.39 | ScytheBlade1 | I won it once with a DoT |
| 08:03.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Stupid 4k ignite ticks |
| 08:03.59 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 08:04.01 | cncfanatics | I also did that pretbc |
| 08:04.08 | cncfanatics | had so damn much fun with rolling ignites |
| 08:04.10 | Kalroth | Adys: I think the first character(s) in the string is an ID of some sort, I highly doubt it's a counter now |
| 08:04.19 | Adys | Its what I think, too |
| 08:04.55 | Adys | now if wine would stop segfaulting id verify that ... |
| 08:05.12 | Antiarc | 215 |
| 08:05.28 | Antiarc | You'll forgive me if I don't list them |
| 08:05.36 | Kalroth | Give us at least 100 of them! |
| 08:05.42 | Tekkub | http://www.ohloh.net/projects/dbw |
| 08:07.40 | AlexanderYoshi | haha |
| 08:07.42 | AlexanderYoshi | Win at Threat |
| 08:07.56 | ScytheBlade1 | DO IT |
| 08:07.58 | Antiarc | Achievement for pulling aggro and dying. |
| 08:08.04 | kd3 | yes, oh yes |
| 08:08.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Bonus points if the mob walks right back to the tank without ganking anyone else |
| 08:08.33 | Antiarc | Man |
| 08:08.36 | Antiarc | Boats + shadows = fail |
| 08:08.50 | ScytheBlade1 | "Ride the Line" "Pulled aggro and was the only one who died in a raid instance." |
| 08:08.54 | Adys | opengl + shadows Antiarc |
| 08:08.55 | nevcairiel | shadows seem to have some overall rendering issues |
| 08:08.56 | Adys | opengl |
| 08:09.02 | cncfanatics | ScytheBlade1: in theory, if noone else was doing the same as you were that should be the case ? |
| 08:09.02 | Antiarc | I'm running directx, I think |
| 08:09.13 | Adys | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202382461&sid=2003 |
| 08:09.16 | Adys | you'd know |
| 08:09.17 | ScytheBlade1 | cncfanatics: not if you're ranged, that can change |
| 08:09.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Or melee even |
| 08:09.30 | cncfanatics | well, if tank is second in threat |
| 08:09.43 | cncfanatics | hmmm, true |
| 08:09.49 | cncfanatics | messy 10%-30% thingy |
| 08:10.00 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah |
| 08:10.10 | Shadowed | Someone send me the achievements lua/xml |
| 08:10.25 | *** join/#wowuidev bleeter_ (n=bleeter@guifications/developer/bleeter) |
| 08:10.27 | cncfanatics | Shadowed: there's a framexml around somewhere from wotlk |
| 08:10.33 | nevcairiel | Shadowed: http://wowcompares.com/ |
| 08:10.33 | Shadowed | oh score bela posted it on wowcompare |
| 08:10.53 | Thunder_Child | ~boobies |
| 08:10.54 | purl | boobies are always fun to play with, or very big |
| 08:10.58 | Kalroth | :D |
| 08:11.05 | cncfanatics | its huge :o |
| 08:11.16 | Kalroth | that's what she said too last night |
| 08:11.26 | nevcairiel | she said that, eh? |
| 08:11.33 | Thunder_Child | she just wasnt talking to you |
| 08:11.36 | cncfanatics | wth ? |
| 08:11.41 | cncfanatics | lol at the achievments ui using xml |
| 08:11.42 | Kalroth | she was pointing at my belly |
| 08:11.49 | cncfanatics | instead of building that dynamicly using CreateFrame |
| 08:11.49 | Thunder_Child | ~bat |
| 08:11.50 | purl | ACTION takes his mighty clue bat and whacks thunder_child over the head many, many, many times |
| 08:11.53 | Adys | Get in mah belly Kalroth ! |
| 08:11.59 | Thunder_Child | err...*sigh* |
| 08:12.08 | Kalroth | Thunder_Child: Silly! |
| 08:12.15 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: did you miss the news that BlizzUI uses xml everywhere? :P |
| 08:12.23 | Thunder_Child | Kalroth, well i didnt know it was going to be self inflicted |
| 08:12.25 | Thunder_Child | ~batd |
| 08:12.26 | cncfanatics | I can understand that for old stuff |
| 08:12.36 | cncfanatics | but seriously, if you write new stuff, use lua already :p |
| 08:12.46 | nevcairiel | why? |
| 08:12.52 | nevcairiel | only because you would prefer it? |
| 08:12.54 | Kalroth | cncfanatics: it's called eating one's own dog food :) |
| 08:12.56 | nevcairiel | there is no reason to use lua |
| 08:13.07 | Shadowed | Anyway, it's not like it matters. |
| 08:13.14 | cncfanatics | judging from the size of it, they're building every single achievment thingy seperatly in xml |
| 08:13.17 | Shadowed | It's in Blizzard_*, so it's LoD. |
| 08:13.24 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: no they are not |
| 08:13.26 | Shadowed | Meaning it won't be loaded unless you're using it just like CreateFrame |
| 08:13.28 | cncfanatics | when they could loop it in lua and spare out lots of time and prevent copy/paste errors ? |
| 08:13.29 | nevcairiel | its just the parent frame and templates |
| 08:13.35 | Tekkub | it's not eating one's dog food... cause you'd realize how bad it tastes and start eating only the good part |
| 08:13.37 | cncfanatics | oh, my bad then |
| 08:13.41 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: get facts before rantign :P |
| 08:14.15 | Tekkub | IMMUNE |
| 08:14.26 | Adys | ~whaleslaughter Kalroth |
| 08:14.33 | Adys | No originality |
| 08:14.39 | Tekkub | DODGE |
| 08:14.46 | Kalroth | To say that a company "eats its own dog food" means that it uses the products that it makes. |
| 08:14.51 | Kalroth | "Dogfooding" is a means of conveying the company's confidence in its own products. |
| 08:14.53 | Kalroth | There! |
| 08:15.20 | Tekkub | dogfooding makes no sense though.... they're using the system they wrote for themselves |
| 08:15.21 | nevcairiel | ~wowalert |
| 08:15.22 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US), http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) |
| 08:15.29 | Tekkub | they're not using the system they wrote for us :P |
| 08:15.29 | cncfanatics | ~dogfooding |
| 08:15.30 | purl | from memory, dogfooding is Kalroth |
| 08:15.34 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202384253&sid=2003 <-lol n00b it's us servers ;_; |
| 08:15.46 | kd3 | which is in itself a reference to the old commercials of yore where they were live and they put a dog in front of food and it wouldn't eat |
| 08:15.51 | Kalroth | Tekkub: Oh, call it cat food then. |
| 08:15.56 | Kalroth | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eat_one's_own_dog_food |
| 08:16.13 | Tekkub | no :P the whole food thing is stupid |
| 08:16.29 | Kalroth | Tekkub: Well you have to eat -something-, dont you?! |
| 08:16.35 | Tekkub | I prefer to call it "using a dinldo cast from your own member" |
| 08:16.41 | Tekkub | *dlido |
| 08:16.43 | Adys | Kalroth: I'll eat your dog! |
| 08:16.45 | Tekkub | **dildo |
| 08:16.46 | Fisker- | ooh thanks Thunder_Child |
| 08:16.55 | Adys | ~whaledildo Tekkub |
| 08:17.00 | Fisker- | which was ME btw |
| 08:17.20 | Tekkub | ~inflatabledildo |
| 08:17.21 | Fisker- | :( |
| 08:17.25 | Fisker- | ~sexleg Tekkub |
| 08:17.26 | purl | Tekkub has sex leg |
| 08:17.31 | Tekkub | ~inflatabledildos |
| 08:17.41 | Tekkub | damnit I can never remember it |
| 08:18.14 | Tekkub | vista's fine, it's just the next step in the KP plan |
| 08:18.26 | Adys | I got a floppy ! aha! |
| 08:18.34 | Tekkub | XP == 2K uglied up, Vista == XP beaten until it's a bit transparent |
| 08:18.42 | Fisker- | XP > 2K |
| 08:19.01 | cncfanatics | they're all just as bad as eachother :p (or as good, as you prefer) |
| 08:19.13 | Kalroth | I'm going from XP to Server 2008, when I have to upgrade |
| 08:19.14 | nevcairiel | You're just a troll |
| 08:19.27 | Fisker- | I'll be waiting for Windows 7 or probably "Windows 8" |
| 08:19.31 | Kalroth | but it'll most likely not happen before W7 is out |
| 08:19.31 | Tekkub | you can't lump the 9x kernel with the NT kernel cnc |
| 08:19.37 | Tekkub | worlds of difference |
| 08:19.41 | Thunder_Child | at what point do you go from stating an opnion to being a troll? |
| 08:19.52 | Kalroth | Thunder_Child: Presentation |
| 08:19.56 | nevcairiel | exactly |
| 08:20.14 | Tekkub | when you try to defend the opinion without any facts whatsoever |
| 08:20.17 | Kalroth | Thunder_Child: eg. if your sentence starts with "<Fisker->" then it's trolling. |
| 08:20.24 | Adys | ffs Kalroth |
| 08:20.25 | Thunder_Child | heh Kalroth |
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| 08:20.30 | Adys | I was doing a nice graph and stuff |
| 08:20.34 | Adys | with virtual quotes |
| 08:20.35 | Kalroth | Adys: Sorry :( |
| 08:20.43 | Adys | well ASK before you do next time |
| 08:20.51 | Tekkub | "quotation fingers" >> vertical quotes |
| 08:20.51 | Fisker- | good thing my sentences don't start with <Fisker-> then Kalroth :) |
| 08:20.59 | Kalroth | "<Fisker-> good thing my sentences don't start with <Fisker-> then Kalroth :)" |
| 08:21.06 | Hapnintwo | Morning ... |
| 08:21.13 | Fisker- | That's my nickname Kalroth |
| 08:21.19 | Thunder_Child | hello Hapnintwo |
| 08:21.19 | Fisker- | surely you must be smart enough to figure that |
| 08:21.20 | Fisker- | :o |
| 08:21.31 | Kalroth | Stop trolling! |
| 08:21.56 | Fisker- | no u |
| 08:21.59 | Thunder_Child | nothing wrong with a good presintaion of trolling as well |
| 08:22.10 | Thunder_Child | s/as well/ every once in a while/ |
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| 08:22.30 | Kalroth | like nevcairiel, he's a weekend troll |
| 08:22.42 | nevcairiel | during weekdays i'm dead serious |
| 08:22.50 | Adys | "offtopic" but |
| 08:22.51 | Adys | "|cffffd000|Htrade:2550:1:75:64BA7:7000`0104000000@000000000|h[Cooking]|h|r" |
| 08:22.57 | Adys | slitherskin mackerel learned |
| 08:23.04 | Kalroth | Adys: from? |
| 08:23.17 | Kalroth | "|cffffd000|Htrade:2550:1:75:64BA7:7000@0104000000@000000000|h[Cooking]|h|r" ? |
| 08:23.26 | Adys | http://wow.pastebin.com/f529d9d8f |
| 08:23.32 | Kalroth | lua> string.byte("`") |
| 08:23.32 | lua_bot | Kalroth: 96 |
| 08:23.41 | nevcairiel | so thats 64+32 |
| 08:23.46 | nevcairiel | while @ was only 64 |
| 08:23.50 | nevcairiel | still makes sense |
| 08:23.52 | Kalroth | yup |
| 08:24.13 | Kalroth | I'm still sure the first 4 characters are reserved for an bit-array identifier of some sort |
| 08:24.21 | Thunder_Child | lol Adys, dont talk about wow lua stuff in wowuidev channel, stay on topic |
| 08:24.28 | Funkeh` | so is there a new version of wowcompares somewhere that doesn't suck ass? |
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| 08:24.32 | Tekkub | "@" >> "`"... |
| 08:24.48 | Tekkub | bitflags I tells ya! |
| 08:24.53 | Kalroth | Tekkub just made a bunch of asian smileys |
| 08:24.59 | Adys | lol |
| 08:25.07 | nevcairiel | yeah but you cannot use the full 1byte range |
| 08:25.11 | nevcairiel | because its used in chat |
| 08:25.19 | Adys | and um for some reason I dont believe the first 4 chars are reserved |
| 08:25.26 | nevcairiel | so somewhere has to be a wrap around |
| 08:25.26 | Adys | Look at inscription |
| 08:25.35 | Adys | :1900002|h[Inscription] |
| 08:25.36 | Cairenn | Funkeh`: perhaps mentioning to Bela|afk that there is some sort of problem instead of just bitching? |
| 08:25.44 | Kalroth | id = "1900" |
| 08:25.57 | Adys | eh? |
| 08:26.02 | Adys | No i seriously doubt that |
| 08:26.07 | Funkeh` | Cairenn, I've mentoned it like every day since the update but no one cared |
| 08:26.14 | Adys | lua> string.byte("1") |
| 08:26.14 | lua_bot | Adys: 49 |
| 08:26.23 | nevcairiel | wowcompares works fine for me |
| 08:26.26 | nevcairiel | dunno what your issue is |
| 08:26.38 | Funkeh` | it bugs me to download most of the files |
| 08:26.42 | Kalroth | Well we'd need to get more data, but I highly doubt that Blizzard would limit the amount of tradeskill arrays to 256 |
| 08:26.46 | Tekkub | why do I still read CAD? |
| 08:26.48 | Funkeh` | where as previously they were perfectly viewable |
| 08:26.57 | Cairenn | Funkeh`: have you actually pinged him directly, or sent him a PM? he may not have noticed if you didn't |
| 08:26.59 | Antiarc | Anyone on US PVE? |
| 08:27.05 | Antiarc | I needs guild sigs |
| 08:27.07 | nevcairiel | Funkeh`: i blame your browser, i can view lua and xml files just fine |
| 08:27.12 | Funkeh` | no, I don't know he's the author |
| 08:27.22 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, it has nothing to do with firefox, thanks |
| 08:27.25 | Cairenn | now you do |
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| 08:27.36 | nevcairiel | Funkeh`: then its your personal error, works fine here :P |
| 08:27.44 | Funkeh` | http://wowcompares.com/3018634/FrameXML/GlobalStrings.lua |
| 08:27.48 | Funkeh` | orly? |
| 08:28.08 | Adys | Kalroth: Um |
| 08:28.16 | Thunder_Child | and why is there a white download button on a white background? |
| 08:28.19 | nevcairiel | you pick the biggest file and expect that to proove anything? |
| 08:28.22 | Adys | Kalroth: 256 tradeskills is far enough |
| 08:28.25 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 08:28.32 | Funkeh` | since it was viewable I the past |
| 08:28.36 | Funkeh` | in* |
| 08:28.57 | nevcairiel | and downloading is hard, i know |
| 08:29.05 | Funkeh` | quit being a twat |
| 08:29.08 | nevcairiel | they probably just had to cut down the bandwidth |
| 08:29.15 | Thunder_Child | i really shouldnt read things that say "Please _____ it instead." i fill in the blank with bad bad things |
| 08:29.16 | Adys | Wait, who's being arrogant here? |
| 08:29.42 | Fisker- | nevcairiel then you're not saving some if everybody just downloads it instead |
| 08:29.49 | Funkeh` | exactly |
| 08:29.52 | Tekkub | Please cockvore it instead |
| 08:29.58 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: you download it once, not 20 times :P |
| 08:30.08 | nevcairiel | also it does syntax highlighting of the files |
| 08:30.11 | Fisker- | Why would i do that? |
| 08:30.14 | nevcairiel | which needs cpu |
| 08:30.14 | Funkeh` | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:30.17 | Fisker- | Then i could just as well extract them myself |
| 08:30.20 | Thunder_Child | "Remember, kids, always keep your copyright infringing software up-to-date!" |
| 08:30.47 | Fisker- | Just disable syntax highlighting on globalstrings then :P |
| 08:30.54 | Fisker- | It's not like it needs it anyways |
| 08:31.10 | Fisker- | "omg this is a string, oh and the next 1000 lines too" |
| 08:31.14 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 08:32.05 | nevcairiel | (10:26:30) (Funkeh`) it bugs me to download most of the files <--- one file = most .. win! :) |
| 08:32.33 | Adys | Fisker-: yeah because no one would come in the chan and say wowcompares suck because it disabled syntax hilight |
| 08:32.42 | Adys | and pick the biggest file to prove their point |
| 08:32.44 | Adys | *shrugs* |
| 08:32.57 | Funkeh` | I think you missed the point |
| 08:33.10 | Funkeh` | but ill leave it there since you will just make another smart ass remark |
| 08:33.38 | nevcairiel | Well you claimed that you have to download "most" of the files, which turns out to only be globalstrings.lua |
| 08:35.16 | Thunder_Child | someone get me a 10TB array, i need the space |
| 08:36.43 | Duman | will you settle for 1.1 petabytes? |
| 08:36.59 | Duman | # df -H /export/hdfs |
| 08:36.59 | Duman | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 08:36.59 | Duman | fuse 1.1P 561T 528T 52% /export/hdfs |
| 08:37.04 | nevcairiel | I could offer you a bowl of rice worth of space |
| 08:37.11 | AlexanderYoshi | arg |
| 08:37.22 | Fisker- | I have several bowls of rice of space at my disposal |
| 08:37.24 | AlexanderYoshi | what am I doing wrong in this line |
| 08:37.25 | AlexanderYoshi | Rune2Rune:SetTexCoord(0, 0, 0.25, 0.25) |
| 08:37.47 | Duman | "Tex" ? |
| 08:38.03 | nevcairiel | the call is correct |
| 08:38.11 | Thunder_Child | Duman, that would take me all of 2 months to fill |
| 08:38.14 | AlexanderYoshi | then why is my texture blank |
| 08:38.15 | AlexanderYoshi | lol |
| 08:38.25 | nevcairiel | Does it show without text coords? :D |
| 08:38.28 | AlexanderYoshi | yes |
| 08:38.32 | Fisker- | because you chose a blank texture! |
| 08:38.34 | nevcairiel | oh i see |
| 08:38.43 | nevcairiel | you mixed the paramters up |
| 08:38.50 | nevcairiel | try (0, 0.25, 0, 0.25) |
| 08:39.02 | nevcairiel | its (minX, maxX, minY, maxY) |
| 08:39.02 | AlexanderYoshi | k |
| 08:39.08 | Mikk | The liver is evil: http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00362/Tom_Moran_362519a.jpg |
| 08:39.22 | Fisker- | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Texture_SetTexCoord |
| 08:39.23 | Fisker- | ;_;? |
| 08:39.30 | Fisker- | obj:SetTexCoord(left,right,top,bottom); |
| 08:39.45 | Thunder_Child | ya, he had top bottim |
| 08:40.25 | AlexanderYoshi | WHO HOO |
| 08:40.27 | AlexanderYoshi | that worked |
| 08:40.28 | AlexanderYoshi | thanks! |
| 08:40.41 | Thunder_Child | s/bottim/bottom/ |
| 08:40.47 | Kalroth | You go, Aleckz! |
| 08:41.45 | Fisker- | you must be some kind of mastermind etc. |
| 08:42.02 | nevcairiel | we all are, except you |
| 08:42.06 | nevcairiel | and possibly Kalroth |
| 08:42.34 | Kalroth | I'm going to tell Cairenn that you're being mean to me. |
| 08:42.39 | Fisker- | ditto |
| 08:44.21 | Kalroth | http://wowcompares.com/3018634/FrameXML/DressUpFrame.lua haha, DressUpTexturePath() |
| 08:44.58 | cncfanatics | Kalroth: wtf ? :o |
| 08:45.06 | Fisker- | are the eu forums slow for you guys? |
| 08:45.13 | cncfanatics | Fisker-: yea |
| 08:45.23 | Fisker- | >:( |
| 08:45.33 | Fisker- | and here i was about to troll |
| 08:46.18 | cncfanatics | Fisker-: poor you |
| 08:47.57 | cncfanatics | Fisker-: they're down now |
| 08:49.38 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202384253&sid=2003#4 <-OMG n00b blue is n0000000000b |
| 08:50.24 | Thunder_Child | it's a good thing Fisker- is EU, we have enough trolls on the US side |
| 08:51.02 | Fisker- | he rly is n00b :( |
| 08:52.28 | cncfanatics | Thunder_Child: if we only had trolls like Fisker- I wouldn't mind |
| 08:52.33 | cncfanatics | its the idiot trolls that anoy me :p |
| 08:53.01 | nevcairiel | but fisker is one of those? |
| 08:53.20 | Thunder_Child | no, i give Fisker- credit, he is a smooth troll |
| 09:18.54 | Fisker- | Btw it's F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5 tiem for EU |
| 09:19.01 | Fisker- | apparently a new batch of keys is being sent now |
| 09:19.18 | Kalroth | lol |
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| 09:29.46 | Mikk | mmm even servers that aren't supposed to be affected are bouncing up and down |
| 09:33.02 | cncfanatics | Mikk: what happened anyway ? |
| 09:33.21 | Fisker- | They upgraded to 56k |
| 09:33.37 | Fisker- | Unfortunately they didn't know that their dedicated lines were already better than 56k |
| 09:34.58 | Fisker- | yay |
| 09:35.01 | Fisker- | forums went up again |
| 09:35.31 | cncfanatics | ty for that info dear troll |
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| 09:47.33 | klipeto | anyone knows an addon showing me bag/bank content of another characters on the realm? and allowing to search through the content? |
| 09:47.36 | zespri | Is there a way to find out from which frame OnTooltipSetItem was genreated from inside OnTooltipSetItem? |
| 09:47.50 | klipeto | I mean mine characters |
| 09:47.52 | klipeto | alts |
| 09:49.24 | zespri | klipeto when I used to play two years ago there was a boatload of such addons |
| 09:50.12 | klipeto | hmm, I should have check internet first :p |
| 09:52.06 | zespri | klipeto, this is one I used to use, not siure if it's still up to date http://cosmosui.com/addons.php?info=CharactersViewer |
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| 09:52.16 | zespri | naybe nowadays there is somthing fancier |
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| 10:07.29 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=5061886138&postId=50610806497&sid=1 <- :( |
| 10:07.31 | Fisker- | night Shirik|zZz |
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| 10:50.43 | klipeto | zespri: I found Bagnon ( http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/2090/ ) which has searching, but it also adjusts bag UI and I already have some bag UI and I'm used to it, so I'm going to use CharactersViewer, thanks :) |
| 10:55.58 | zespri | enjoy |
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| 13:32.15 | Lopeppeppy | Viking Kitties! |
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| 13:58.53 | alestane | Morning to everyone east of the Mississippi/Atlantic. |
| 13:59.38 | nevcairiel | To some degree of east, that hits everyone |
| 13:59.44 | Lopeppeppy | Morning to everyone else! |
| 14:00.30 | nevcairiel | Mornin' peppy! |
| 14:00.55 | Kalroth | Morning to everyone but nev! |
| 14:01.24 | nevcairiel | Thats fine with me |
| 14:01.31 | nevcairiel | its not morning here anyway |
| 14:01.46 | Kalroth | that and you have been active for quite some time now! |
| 14:02.21 | Lopeppeppy | Active is as active does. |
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| 14:04.55 | nevcairiel | Hm |
| 14:04.56 | nevcairiel | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/wotlk/items/rare/rareitem_058.jpg |
| 14:05.02 | nevcairiel | melee crit/hit now affects spells? |
| 14:05.20 | durcyn | there was talk of merging hit/crit/haste |
| 14:05.26 | Lopeppeppy | So I hear, it's all one stat. |
| 14:05.58 | durcyn | it makes sense, from a simplifying gem cuts perspective |
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| 14:07.06 | malreth | it's also good for hybrids |
| 14:08.02 | nevcairiel | I am not too sure how good the whole Spell Power dealy will be |
| 14:08.08 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, very yes malreth. |
| 14:08.19 | nevcairiel | I mean ok, it gives healers alot more dmg do to fun with |
| 14:08.30 | nevcairiel | but most of the items will still be very specific |
| 14:08.45 | nevcairiel | mp5/spi vs crit/hit |
| 14:08.55 | durcyn | they're trying to homogenize casters a bit much for my taste |
| 14:09.09 | durcyn | i play a warlock primarily, and they're trying to make me use spirit. fuck that, seriously. |
| 14:10.29 | malreth | oh, you'll take your spirit.... AND YOU'LL LIKE IT |
| 14:11.05 | durcyn | it's enough to make me want to mainswap to a rogue or something so i can have proper itemization |
| 14:11.26 | Lopeppeppy | They're changing a lot of rogue itemization too, so don't jump ship too fast. |
| 14:11.42 | durcyn | true, and it is beta yet |
| 14:11.55 | malreth | it could be worse |
| 14:11.58 | malreth | you could be a mage |
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| 14:24.32 | Drundia_ | i think change is merging ratings on items, like now for example most melee and ranged ratings are merged, and resilience is merged for everything. |
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| 14:38.05 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:47.39 | Lopeppeppy | 10:45am, Peppy is at work. |
| 14:47.59 | malreth | 9:45am, malreth is at work |
| 14:48.05 | |Jelly| | 9:45am :: Jelly just woke up |
| 14:48.15 | Cide | 4:48pm, Cide is at home, but ignores you. |
| 14:48.26 | haste | 4:48pm just woke up |
| 14:48.38 | hipjipp | 16:48/4:48pm, bored |
| 14:48.53 | Cide | crying is bad, peppy |
| 14:49.05 | Lopeppeppy | Especially for redheads, it makes us all blotchy |
| 14:50.04 | malreth | i'm a red head too! http://twitter.com/account/profile_image/fizzboy |
| 14:51.28 | Kalroth | hot |
| 14:51.46 | malreth | i have a face that can silence a crying child |
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| 14:53.42 | Lopeppeppy | And yes, it's red. :P |
| 14:54.03 | Lopeppeppy | Peppy. http://twitter.com/account/profile_image/jarien |
| 14:54.45 | malreth | i didn't know you were a kyuubi, Lopeppeppy |
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| 14:55.53 | malreth | it kinda tells you something about the world when the first three pages of google results for 'kyuubi' returns all Naruto fan pages |
| 14:56.44 | haste | its as rotten as naruto |
| 14:57.19 | Lopeppeppy | I call it kitsune, malreth. Are these different creatures from kyuubi. |
| 14:57.20 | Lopeppeppy | ? |
| 14:58.10 | malreth | ~x jp en kitsune |
| 14:58.19 | malreth | very good, purl |
| 14:58.27 | hipjipp | :P |
| 14:58.46 | malreth | ~x jp en ãã¤ã |
| 14:59.07 | Lopeppeppy | Garble! |
| 14:59.13 | Lopeppeppy | Someone give purl CPR! |
| 14:59.20 | malreth | ~x jp en ç |
| 14:59.30 | malreth | ~kick purl |
| 14:59.31 | purl | ACTION kicks purl |
| 14:59.32 | haste | Lopeppeppy: kitsune is fox |
| 14:59.36 | malreth | yes |
| 14:59.49 | malreth | a kyuubi is a specific kind of fox |
| 14:59.52 | malreth | with 9 tails |
| 15:00.35 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, I don't have that many tails yet! |
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| 15:19.23 | Fisker- | cog|work ! |
| 15:19.28 | Fisker- | you mustn't work |
| 15:19.35 | Fisker- | it is Fiskannuh |
| 15:19.40 | Fisker- | the holiest day on my calendar |
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| 15:24.09 | Fisker- | btw Adys does death knights start at 270 for other professions as well, or only secondary? |
| 15:24.31 | Adys | Only first aid |
| 15:24.36 | Fisker- | aww |
| 15:24.37 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 15:24.43 | Fisker- | they should change that |
| 15:25.21 | Cide | then everyone would just make death knights as profession alts |
| 15:25.46 | Fisker- | You're only allowed to have 1 death knight per faction per realm |
| 15:25.53 | Cide | that's still 2 free professions |
| 15:26.07 | Fisker- | Yeah but still |
| 15:33.02 | cncfanatics | well |
| 15:33.07 | cncfanatics | its gonna suck to grind all profs as dk |
| 15:33.29 | Lopeppeppy | Grinding professions just generally stinks. |
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| 15:41.38 | digmouse | ~seen cairenn |
| 15:41.41 | purl | cairenn <n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 7h 14m 16s ago, saying: 'now you do'. |
| 15:42.12 | Lopeppeppy | She's asleeping! |
| 15:42.25 | nevcairiel | 7 hours already, eh? |
| 15:42.30 | digmouse | right |
| 15:42.41 | nevcairiel | I bet she'll be here soonish |
| 15:43.27 | digmouse | it would be at noon in us right |
| 15:44.17 | Industrial | whee chainheal rank4 finally at 2k heals :P |
| 15:44.42 | Industrial | took me a whole week, finally starting to get some decent gear :P |
| 15:44.52 | Industrial | http://vashj-eu.warcrafter.net/xamth |
| 15:45.51 | Lopeppeppy | digmouse, you're correct. It's 11:45am in the timezone Cairenn and I share. |
| 15:48.19 | wereHamster | Industrial: looks horrible: http://dbservice.com/ftpdir/tom/Xamth.png |
| 15:48.49 | hipjipp | reduce the fontsize.. :P |
| 15:49.09 | Lopeppeppy | I see it fine, get a bigger screen! :P |
| 15:49.21 | wereHamster | no, properly coded websites look fine |
| 15:49.39 | Lopeppeppy | True, it should resize on it's own.... |
| 15:49.49 | Industrial | wereHamster: lol must be your browser |
| 15:50.06 | wereHamster | yes, it's because it uses absolute font sizes instead of relative |
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| 15:50.42 | Industrial | I've got ff with default font settings and it does just fine |
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| 15:51.20 | wereHamster | but that doesn't mean that the whole world should have to use the very same settings as you ... |
| 15:51.37 | wereHamster | I don't blame you though, WoW forums look just as shitty |
| 15:52.01 | nevcairiel | You cant expect everyone to run with the standard |
| 15:52.12 | digmouse | if I dont have a high level char on my us/eu account, would it cause that i may probably cant get my wotLK beta key? |
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| 15:52.26 | nevcairiel | so if you need perfect font settings for your display .. its at least partly your fault :P |
| 15:52.47 | hipjipp | digmouse: no, but it could help if you wish to level ahead of the others.. :P |
| 15:53.14 | digmouse | hipjipp: I dont want to level lol |
| 15:53.37 | wereHamster | nevcairiel: which standard are you refering to? |
| 15:54.06 | hipjipp | for the wowi key-giveaway, you just need to have written addons that works for 2.4, nothing else |
| 15:54.21 | hipjipp | apart from an active wow-acount etc etc.. :P |
| 15:54.35 | nevcairiel | I bet there is some sort of accessibility guideline that tells you to use relative font sizes |
| 15:54.38 | nevcairiel | but *shrug |
| 15:54.40 | Industrial | as a website designer you can't ever expect people not to use the standards |
| 15:54.45 | Industrial | because you design for the standards |
| 15:54.51 | Industrial | if you scre with the settings its your fault |
| 15:54.52 | Industrial | period. |
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| 15:55.30 | wereHamster | Technically speaking, I haven't screwed with my settings, it's just that I have hardware that designers don't expect to exist |
| 15:55.45 | nevcairiel | So its not their fault :D |
| 15:56.56 | digmouse | no premade character for wotlk beta? |
| 15:57.23 | cog|work | premade = transfer |
| 15:57.32 | cog|work | they want you testing all the content not just the raid dungeons |
| 15:57.51 | cog|work | cap's 77 anyway |
| 15:58.08 | digmouse | so, can just do it on a 50 or so hunter |
| 15:58.17 | digmouse | or start a dk |
| 15:58.33 | cog|work | yep |
| 15:58.45 | nevcairiel | you need a 55 char to start a dk |
| 15:58.48 | inviso | Industrial: As a website designer, your goal is to make your designs appear correct in the highest number of configs/browsers as well as "degrading" nicely. It's not terribly glamorous or interesting work, but it's necessary. |
| 15:58.57 | Fisker- | not on the beta servers |
| 15:59.23 | digmouse | meh, i remember that too |
| 15:59.29 | Industrial | inviso: yes, well, ctrl - |
| 15:59.31 | Industrial | :P |
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| 16:15.32 | wereHamster | Industrial: the website uses pt for font sizes. On a MS Windows this translates to 18.6 pixels. On my display this translates to 28.2 pixels. And this regardless of what font size the user has chosen in his webbrowser. |
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| 16:33.05 | Hjalte | Seerah: Hi there. Have you had any reports of PocketPlot making raid members dissappear on the minimap when inside instances? |
| 16:33.13 | Esamynn | ROFL at today's penny arcade comic |
| 16:33.42 | Seerah | Hjalte: no, I have not... It's just the default minimap blips with a different texture |
| 16:34.03 | Seerah | when does it happen? |
| 16:34.41 | cladhaire | Josh_Borke: nevcairiel: We're shifting alliances on Epsilon |
| 16:34.54 | cladhaire | I've being attacked hardcore by another alliance, so this is coming at a good time for me :P |
| 16:34.58 | Hjalte | Seerah: I've seen it happen in multiple raids. The dots dissappear but when I mouseover the minimap they are still "there", just invisible. They usually return if I reload my UI. |
| 16:35.06 | Josh_Borke | want me to ship you some troops? |
| 16:35.10 | Josh_Borke | i've got cash to spare |
| 16:35.12 | Josh_Borke | erm |
| 16:35.16 | cladhaire | not unless you have a metric asston |
| 16:35.17 | Josh_Borke | but i dont't have a military treaty yet... |
| 16:35.22 | cladhaire | he threw a good 300 ships at me |
| 16:35.24 | cladhaire | err |
| 16:35.26 | cladhaire | 300 troops |
| 16:35.29 | Josh_Borke | that's a lot of troops |
| 16:35.30 | cladhaire | but they were land troops |
| 16:35.32 | cladhaire | since they're on my island |
| 16:35.36 | cladhaire | and he hit all four towns at once |
| 16:35.41 | nevcairiel | I kinda stopped caring, did some bad choices and my economy sucks now |
| 16:35.45 | Josh_Borke | wow, that's impressive |
| 16:35.47 | cladhaire | but i killed my trading port |
| 16:35.55 | Josh_Borke | nevcairiel: what's wrong? i'll ship you stuff |
| 16:35.56 | cladhaire | so he's getting between 7k and 10k gold |
| 16:35.57 | cladhaire | and nothing else. |
| 16:36.02 | cladhaire | nevcairiel: yeah, we can help out |
| 16:36.04 | cladhaire | worse comes to worse |
| 16:36.06 | cladhaire | colonize ONCe |
| 16:36.09 | cladhaire | down near me |
| 16:36.12 | cladhaire | abandon your original town |
| 16:36.26 | cladhaire | and start over down there |
| 16:36.35 | nevcairiel | i've been thinking about dumping one or two of my original towns |
| 16:36.36 | Seerah | Hjalte: do you have anything else that touches your minimap? |
| 16:36.37 | Josh_Borke | i've got 4 towns all with lvl 3 GR =/ |
| 16:36.43 | malreth | lua> tostring(nil) |
| 16:36.44 | lua_bot | malreth: nil |
| 16:36.47 | cladhaire | you should colonize down by me |
| 16:36.50 | cladhaire | and we can regulate :P |
| 16:37.01 | nevcairiel | travel time is so damn high |
| 16:37.05 | Josh_Borke | i'll send my next colony to you clad |
| 16:37.11 | Josh_Borke | my next will be a sulfur town |
| 16:37.14 | cladhaire | nevcairiel: it isn't if you put your islands all next to each other |
| 16:37.22 | cladhaire | but you guys will need to join this new alliance once their home secretary responds to me |
| 16:37.28 | Josh_Borke | 40m travel time is <3 |
| 16:37.31 | Hjalte | Seerah: MinimapButtonFrame is the only addon, I think. And it shouldnt touch anything else than the buttons. |
| 16:37.47 | Josh_Borke | 2h travel is </34 |
| 16:37.58 | Wikwocket | What game is this with towns and troops and colonies you're playing? |
| 16:38.04 | cladhaire | Ikariam.com |
| 16:38.08 | Seerah | actually, I remember MinimapButtonBag used to have problems where it would grab anything on the minimap |
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| 16:38.18 | cladhaire | okay, heading off to run some errands |
| 16:38.33 | Wikwocket | Ah, thought maybe it was Travian |
| 16:38.37 | Seerah | run your next raid with MBF disabled and see if it still happens, Hjalte |
| 16:39.30 | Josh_Borke | clad|away: sure, i'm all for it i guess |
| 16:39.47 | Josh_Borke | nevcairiel: seriously, if you need any supplies, just let us know |
| 16:39.55 | cog|work | anyone know if they've started sending blizzcon beta invites? |
| 16:40.02 | Hjalte | Seerah: I'll try that. Thanks :) |
| 16:40.20 | Josh_Borke | nevcairiel: i've gotten all my towns to lvl 12 |
| 16:40.22 | Seerah | let me know on the download page if you still have that occur, please :) |
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| 16:40.30 | cog|work | hai kamdis |
| 16:40.38 | kamdis | Heya cog |
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| 16:40.51 | |Jelly| | HAI KAMDIS |
| 16:41.08 | kamdis | Hi |Jelly| <3 |
| 16:41.19 | Fisker- | ~kiss cog|work |
| 16:41.20 | purl | ACTION forces cog|work to give zespri a big kiss on the lips |
| 16:41.24 | nevcairiel | Josh_Borke: i need a metric fuckton of marble, and i cant really afford another colony, lvl 4 palace is pricy |
| 16:41.41 | nevcairiel | maybe i'll abandon my sulfur colony and do a second marble or so |
| 16:41.51 | Josh_Borke | nevcairiel: i would recommend downgrading and destroying your sulfur colony |
| 16:41.55 | clad|away | nevcairiel: just start abandoning shit |
| 16:42.02 | clad|away | buy whatever you need |
| 16:42.06 | clad|away | and move down towards me imo :P |
| 16:42.10 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 16:42.54 | Josh_Borke | i can't be assed to move |
| 16:42.59 | nevcairiel | moving sucks |
| 16:43.00 | Josh_Borke | that initial build up takes so much time |
| 16:43.05 | nevcairiel | i have 3 island close to each other |
| 16:43.08 | clad|away | your research is already done |
| 16:43.16 | clad|away | just build up your warehouse and you're good to go |
| 16:43.23 | nevcairiel | mm |
| 16:43.25 | nevcairiel | where you at? |
| 16:43.38 | clad|away | 38:59 (Diwios) |
| 16:43.40 | clad|away | is my main town |
| 16:43.43 | Hjalte | Seerah: I now have at least 20 buttons on my minimap :( |
| 16:43.44 | clad|away | and i can fund you like crazy from there |
| 16:43.49 | clad|away | 16 mill, 14 crystal mine |
| 16:44.05 | clad|away | I'm also on 37:59 and 40:60 |
| 16:44.07 | Josh_Borke | iriel loves that crystal, huh? |
| 16:44.16 | clad|away | and i've built up the mills like whoa :P |
| 16:44.17 | Wikwocket | Is Ikarium a web game or a flash game? The graphics are pretty cool |
| 16:44.26 | Cide | web |
| 16:44.48 | Seerah | Hjalte: 20?? I'm sure you could disable some of those |
| 16:44.51 | nevcairiel | that island looks pretty nice |
| 16:44.55 | clad|away | but WLE might be dickwads to you if you move down before we switch alliances |
| 16:45.11 | clad|away | im done with the marble stage |
| 16:45.15 | Josh_Borke | hm, what lvl wine? |
| 16:45.18 | clad|away | i need to focus on sulfur to build my armor back up |
| 16:45.20 | clad|away | err |
| 16:45.21 | clad|away | army |
| 16:45.26 | clad|away | 14 wine, 17 mill on that island |
| 16:45.34 | Josh_Borke | hm, i might move down |
| 16:45.37 | nevcairiel | it'll take some time for me to dismantle and ship all my resources down anyway |
| 16:46.18 | nevcairiel | but i'll do it |
| 16:46.20 | nevcairiel | i guess |
| 16:46.21 | Josh_Borke | hm, i guess i'll stockpile and move also |
| 16:46.23 | Yssaril | nevcairiel: start moving one at a time instead of all at once |
| 16:46.29 | nevcairiel | Yssaril: of course |
| 16:46.29 | Josh_Borke | nevcairiel: we'll do it together! |
| 16:46.55 | clad|away | :P |
| 16:47.02 | Josh_Borke | hm, only 8h away |
| 16:47.03 | clad|away | alright, i'll be back in a bit. |
| 16:47.27 | nevcairiel | damn 40 trade ships are really not alot if you start moving whole islands |
| 16:47.30 | Shirik | byes clad|away |
| 16:47.36 | Josh_Borke | nevcairiel: wow, you have 40? |
| 16:47.40 | Josh_Borke | i'm still at 22 |
| 16:47.40 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 16:47.51 | nevcairiel | i recently spent like all my gold on it |
| 16:47.53 | clad|away | I have 57 |
| 16:47.53 | nevcairiel | not like i need gold |
| 16:48.00 | clad|away | they get SO damn expensive |
| 16:48.01 | Josh_Borke | yea, gold isn't ever needed |
| 16:48.07 | clad|away | but I dont have any military upkeep now |
| 16:48.11 | clad|away | WLE destroyed all my troops |
| 16:48.16 | clad|away | i still have like 20 ships or so |
| 16:48.17 | clad|away | btu *shrug* |
| 16:48.23 | nevcairiel | i pay like 180k for the next ship |
| 16:48.24 | clad|away | BAI |
| 16:48.26 | nevcairiel | cant afford more now .P |
| 16:48.27 | nevcairiel | bye! |
| 16:48.36 | Josh_Borke | nevcairiel: when are you going to move? |
| 16:48.40 | clad|away | my next ship is over 600ik |
| 16:48.49 | nevcairiel | Josh_Borke: first island once i get my trade ships ready |
| 16:49.11 | nevcairiel | and a colony cleared of resources |
| 16:49.37 | nevcairiel | can be a while |
| 16:49.39 | nevcairiel | guess tomorrow |
| 16:49.40 | nevcairiel | or so |
| 16:50.13 | Cairenn|afk | my last ship cost 840-something just bought it, so don't remember exactly how much, but 840-something) |
| 16:50.22 | Josh_Borke | Cairenn|afk: which server are you on? |
| 16:50.26 | Cairenn | Delta |
| 16:51.08 | Josh_Borke | Cairenn: aw, i've pretty much abandoned my delta colonies |
| 16:51.21 | Cairenn | I'm pretty well done myself |
| 16:51.28 | Josh_Borke | you should come to epsilon :-D |
| 16:51.35 | Cairenn | naw, it's boring |
| 16:51.43 | Josh_Borke | heh, yea, i know what you mean |
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| 16:52.19 | Shirik | delta? epsilon? |
| 16:52.22 | Lopeppeppy | Delta rules |
| 16:52.25 | Josh_Borke | ~failrik |
| 16:52.26 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 16:52.28 | Shirik | :( |
| 16:52.32 | Josh_Borke | Shirik: epsilon.com |
| 16:52.35 | Kirkburn | What channel is this? |
| 16:52.37 | Kirkburn | Where am I? |
| 16:52.44 | Josh_Borke | Kirkburn: welcome to the twilight zone |
| 16:52.47 | Shirik | I thought I was told epsilon is boring |
| 16:52.57 | Josh_Borke | so, how about that instant HoT AoE for holy paladins? |
| 16:53.13 | Josh_Borke | or the 3% attack, cast, ?? speed increase for retribution aura |
| 16:53.26 | Kirkburn | Wait, epsilon.com? That's a marketing consultancy... |
| 16:53.36 | Josh_Borke | hm |
| 16:53.39 | Josh_Borke | i mean ikariam.com |
| 16:53.40 | Josh_Borke | oh well |
| 16:53.58 | Kirkburn | Phew, for a second I though we didn't have a wiki on it :P |
| 16:54.46 | Shirik | am I supposed to actually register? |
| 16:55.01 | Shirik | this looks very strange |
| 16:55.01 | Wikwocket | Josh_Borke: I thought the pally 51 holy talent had a cast time? |
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| 16:56.15 | Kirkburn | Which server are you on? "My server". Yes, what server is that? "My server". Srsly. |
| 16:56.31 | Kirkburn | I don't think "My" was a good choice for a server name... |
| 16:57.10 | inviso | probably better than "yor" |
| 16:57.16 | Kirkburn | heh |
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| 16:58.40 | Seerah | Who's on first? |
| 16:58.50 | Lopeppeppy | That's what I've been telling you! |
| 16:59.01 | Shirik | the guy who batted last? |
| 16:59.05 | Shirik | >.> |
| 16:59.34 | Shirik | well that was od |
| 16:59.35 | Shirik | odd* |
| 16:59.44 | Cide | http://www.hellokittyonline.com/us/ |
| 16:59.49 | Shirik | I hit the "close" button on firefox, it asks me if I want to close all tabs, I realize I don't so I hit cancel |
| 16:59.52 | Shirik | it locks up |
| 16:59.56 | Cide | is simply amazing |
| 17:00.03 | Shirik | so I right click it in the task bar, hit close, and it unlocks itself |
| 17:00.11 | Shirik | no shutdown, mind you, but it responds normally |
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| 17:00.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | oops |
| 17:00.53 | Kirkburn | Cide, ... |
| 17:04.46 | inviso | Cide: http://www.hellokittyonline.com/us/index.php?c=tutor&s=tutor_gameBrief /cry |
| 17:06.08 | kamdis | You guys are playing Ikariam? |
| 17:07.07 | Lopeppeppy | Love early stages of Ikariam. Late stages, more boring. |
| 17:07.30 | kamdis | My alliance got in a HUGE war. That was fun. |
| 17:07.37 | Wikwocket | It sounds a lot like Travian... in the late game does it take forever to build things, move troops, and so on? |
| 17:07.52 | Lopeppeppy | Ish, Wikwocket. |
| 17:08.20 | Wikwocket | So I probably don't have the spare time to play both then :) |
| 17:09.08 | Lopeppeppy | Yes you would, you can walk away from Ikariam and it keeps doing your stuff. Browser game, good for work goofing off. |
| 17:09.33 | Shirik | why have I not been told of this game sooner! |
| 17:09.35 | Fisker- | lol inviso |
| 17:09.37 | Shirik | Though that's probably a good thing |
| 17:09.45 | Fisker- | almost thought it said "Welcome to the first ever MMORPG" :D |
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| 17:13.28 | Kirkburn | We've even got a pretty wiki for it - http://ikariam.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page ... I totally have to go play it now |
| 17:13.46 | cog|work | be warned... |
| 17:14.03 | cog|work | if you get others into the game, don't interact with them if you play from the same ip address |
| 17:14.16 | Fisker- | >:3? |
| 17:14.25 | Lopeppeppy | They see that as botting and banstick you. |
| 17:14.41 | Fisker- | Ikariam? |
| 17:14.46 | cog|work | yeth |
| 17:14.56 | Kirkburn | ouch |
| 17:15.01 | Fisker- | i'd rather play wotlk |
| 17:15.10 | Kirkburn | You could ... play both! |
| 17:15.15 | Kirkburn | Since you can't play WotLK yet ;) |
| 17:15.34 | Fisker- | i could if i had a key :( |
| 17:15.36 | Kirkburn | As you so loudly keep reminding us :P |
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| 17:16.53 | kamdis | "she has sex leg" http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202654376 |
| 17:17.04 | kamdis | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:17.37 | Fisker- | people should have pre-activated authenticators sent and they pay all the costs |
| 17:17.37 | Fisker- | imo |
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| 17:17.44 | Fisker- | also let the authenticator be required for forum |
| 17:18.17 | foxlit | "Twice now my custom rings and keybinds all just disappeared. Both times, I had disconnected and Alt+F4'ed out of the client." |
| 17:18.44 | Kirkburn | .... |
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| 17:19.08 | Kirkburn | Cause and effect? I don't know the meaning of the term... |
| 17:19.15 | Industrial | stupidity |
| 17:19.36 | Kirkburn | Though WoW could do with a note somewhere saying "your changes will not be saved until you log out" |
| 17:20.15 | foxlit | I wonder, though |
| 17:20.40 | foxlit | How graceful the ALT+F4 kill actually is - does it attempt to save things, but not fire the relevant events? Does it not attempt to save things? |
| 17:20.48 | Shirik | it should attempt to save |
| 17:21.12 | Shirik | alt+f4 will just send a WM_QUIT event which should be processed by WoW just as if you had hit the red X button |
| 17:21.16 | Fisker- | mine has always saved properly with alt+f4 |
| 17:21.30 | Shirik | technically it doesn't send WM_QUIT but that's the end result |
| 17:21.38 | kamdis | that reminds me, foxlit, I now officially cannot play without OPie. You have done an amazing job with it. Thank you! |
| 17:22.53 | Lopeppeppy | Hmmm.... what does this amazing OPie offer to one, Kamdis? |
| 17:23.10 | [dRaCo] | a circle! |
| 17:23.10 | hipjipp | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:24.04 | Lopeppeppy | Perhaps when I'm done swearing at Grid, I can try that new one too. Neat. |
| 17:24.20 | cog|work | I don't think i've ever had a problem Alt-F4ing |
| 17:24.20 | wereHamster | Lopeppeppy: obviously a pie, and we all know very well that pie > cake |
| 17:24.24 | kamdis | Lopeppeppy, on my Warlock it's a godsend of space saving and ease of use. All the stone conjures on one ring, all the summons on another. One all characters I use it for pots/bandages, buffs. I have finally rid myself of Autobar. |
| 17:24.33 | kamdis | :-) |
| 17:24.46 | cog|work | afaik it does everything the Exit Now button does... |
| 17:24.50 | kamdis | I'm addicted to OPie! |
| 17:24.58 | Dashkal | A replacement for autobar? *clicks* ooooooo |
| 17:24.59 | kamdis | And now all my guildmates are too. |
| 17:25.10 | kamdis | it works differently, but imo better |
| 17:25.11 | Fisker- | i'm addicted to cog|work |
| 17:25.22 | kamdis | Aren't we all, Fisker-? |
| 17:25.25 | Dashkal | It definitely looks promising. That'll get a trial run after work |
| 17:25.33 | Fisker- | i hope not |
| 17:25.35 | Fisker- | cause he's mine |
| 17:25.42 | kamdis | hehe |
| 17:25.45 | Kirkburn | oh wow, OPie does look pretty cool |
| 17:26.30 | hipjipp | OPie is a place saver for most classes exept for perhaps priests and rogues.. <.< (thankfully, im not one of them) ^^ |
| 17:26.57 | Lopeppeppy | Autobar is getting a bit.... large for my usage, I admit. |
| 17:28.10 | hipjipp | for memory interested, OPie eats ~300kb or memory at long-term usage, and no visible cpu-impact |
| 17:28.50 | Lopeppeppy | Memory I'm good with, I have bukkits of that. Patience for configuration, I've run out of, between Autobar and Pitbull and Grid. |
| 17:29.52 | Dashkal | heh, the three of those together is quite the configuration |
| 17:30.03 | hipjipp | oUF, OPie and <your raidframes here> :P almost no config to ouf and OPie |
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| 17:35.11 | hipjipp | everyone who is looking for "worthy mods": http://vranx.com/ |
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| 17:36.04 | Seerah | peppy, why are you trying out Grid again? |
| 17:36.10 | Seerah | besides you're guildies told you to |
| 17:36.28 | alestane | >>> f = (function(...) return function () return ... end end)(1, 2, 3, 5, 8); print(f()) |
| 17:36.44 | Industrial | lua> f = (function(...) return function () return ... end end)(1, 2, 3, 5, 8); print(f()) |
| 17:36.45 | lua_bot | Industrial: luabot:1: cannot use '...' outside a vararg function near '...' |
| 17:36.46 | Seerah | you can set PitBull up to look just like it |
| 17:36.50 | Cide | hipjipp: who deems which mods are 'worthy'? |
| 17:36.59 | alestane | That answers that question. |
| 17:37.13 | Seerah | I do PotW - does that count? :P |
| 17:37.20 | Lopeppeppy | Seerah -- mostly to be a team player and give another fair shake to something they swear is better than sliced bread. |
| 17:38.27 | hipjipp | cide: i don't know.. vranx? it's just a handful of more or less useful mods that might interest the most ammount of users, but if you don't think so, don't use it.. :P *pats Cide* |
| 17:38.46 | Cide | why are you joining just to advertise for it then? |
| 17:39.00 | Cide | why not use, you know, a normal interface site, which is well-known, established and has *all* mods, and not just 'worthy' ones? |
| 17:40.20 | hipjipp | it mostly contains links to WowI or curse, if it's on files.wowace.com the it's just a download-link, and please.. i'm just trying to help people expand their sources |
| 17:40.48 | Gnarfoz | I think he was looking for the word 'useful', anyway ^^ |
| 17:40.54 | Cide | if it links to existing sites, how does it expand anyone's sources? |
| 17:41.02 | Seerah | vranx is pretty much a list of mods, reviews about them, pros/cons, etc |
| 17:41.19 | hipjipp | Seerah: Thanks! |
| 17:41.34 | Seerah | you can find a thread on wowace where he was taking suggestions of mods/categories to review |
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| 17:49.32 | foxlit | "Cide: why not use, you know, a normal interface site, which is well-known, established and has *all* mods, and not just 'worthy' ones?" |
| 17:49.39 | foxlit | That one is relatively easy |
| 17:50.06 | foxlit | Because current "normal" interface sucks fail when it comes to end-users |
| 17:50.16 | foxlit | s/ucks/ites/ |
| 17:50.30 | foxlit | they keys were like, SO close! |
| 17:50.34 | Cide | they fail when it comes to both end-users and developers mostly, but that's just me |
| 17:51.11 | foxlit | I'd be inclined to agree, but it's the end-user side that holds the answer to your question |
| 17:51.43 | Cide | perhaps |
| 17:51.47 | Cide | but that site is horrible as well |
| 17:51.52 | Lopeppeppy | Which is why WowMatrix exists, may it rot in the depths of computer virus hell. |
| 17:51.54 | foxlit | [Then again, I suck at scrolling back, so I'm interpreting that as "why should end users use a review-based site"] |
| 17:51.56 | Cide | like H-O-R-R-IBLE |
| 17:53.05 | foxlit | with two Rs? :) |
| 17:53.14 | Cide | yep |
| 17:53.24 | Cide | at least the mod listing is somewhat better |
| 17:53.41 | Cide | but I don't think I would continue browsing after seeing the index page normally |
| 17:56.31 | Shirik | hi hipjipp |
| 17:56.37 | Shirik | are you the owner of that site? |
| 17:56.53 | hipjipp | Shirik: Witch site? vranx? |
| 17:56.56 | Shirik | yup |
| 17:57.26 | hipjipp | Shirik: nope, vranx of WoWI is.. i just host my stuff at wowi and trying to learn lua |
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| 17:58.00 | Shirik | I find it.... interesting that the descriptions of mods on the site match WoWI's.... verbatim |
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| 17:58.49 | Shirik | oh I see now |
| 17:58.52 | Shirik | it's his UI |
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| 18:02.58 | Lopeppeppy | ... |
| 18:03.17 | Fisker- | Shirik gotten your authenticator yet? |
| 18:03.17 | Atriace | ... well, I'm online then. :) |
| 18:03.23 | Shirik | Fisker-: Haven't checked mail today |
| 18:03.34 | laeg | can anybody recommend an avatar mod to compliment adept? |
| 18:04.02 | laeg | *adapt |
| 18:04.05 | Fisker- | slacker |
| 18:04.07 | Lopeppeppy | Atriace, yes you are. |
| 18:04.20 | Atriace | Avatar mod, Laeg? |
| 18:04.29 | laeg | ya |
| 18:04.32 | Atriace | oh, as a replacement to Adapt? |
| 18:04.37 | laeg | naw i like what adapt does |
| 18:04.56 | Atriace | define "avatar mod" |
| 18:04.58 | laeg | sorry i should have set avatar frame/ |
| 18:05.07 | laeg | the part that shows the name and hp mana etc |
| 18:05.09 | laeg | target of target |
| 18:05.10 | Atriace | Unit Frames |
| 18:05.14 | laeg | i have necb for spells |
| 18:05.14 | laeg | ty |
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| 18:06.35 | Atriace | Personally, no I can't recommend any. I'd say mine, but it's not finished. |
| 18:07.55 | laeg | :D |
| 18:08.07 | laeg | unit frames looks nice in the curse screenie |
| 18:08.30 | laeg | Perl Classic Unit Frames 2.22 |
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| 18:09.28 | Lopeppeppy | Yik. |
| 18:09.51 | Lopeppeppy | I use Pitbull, it's a bear to configure but uber-configurable. Have loved ag_unitframes and Sage in the past. |
| 18:12.34 | Seerah | laeg: some unit frames have a 3-d portrait feature built in already |
| 18:12.43 | Seerah | ADAPT is for those that don't |
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| 18:23.40 | laeg | Seerah: cool thanks, i'm trying to work out how to make perl unit frames display the adept 3d avatar |
| 18:23.46 | laeg | perl unit frames is huge |
| 18:24.01 | Seerah | huge? |
| 18:24.14 | hipjipp | perl include their own movable avatars |
| 18:25.39 | hipjipp | if im not mistaking ofc |
| 18:28.06 | laeg | Seerah: many many options |
| 18:33.50 | malreth | watching Jadefury's Deathknight videos on WoWInsider gives me the feeling that I'd need a video card upgrade in order to even consider playing that class. o_o |
| 18:35.57 | Gnarfoz | regarding videos |
| 18:36.01 | Tekkub | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/community/comics/gallery.html#222 |
| 18:36.03 | Tekkub | I want one |
| 18:36.18 | Gnarfoz | I heard from someone on my TS that there's a ~4hr video showing the entire DK intro quest series |
| 18:36.24 | Gnarfoz | anyone know where I might find that? :\ |
| 18:37.44 | Gnarfoz | and yet again, the blizzard store denies me to buy anything. lol |
| 18:38.24 | Gnarfoz | some day soon, I'll receive 10 blizz authenticators or something because in reality, all orders have gone through |
| 18:38.43 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:38.49 | malreth | my sister is probably gonna lose her Swiss bank account... :p |
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| 18:42.40 | wereHamster | malreth: I live in switzerland, I could set up a secret bank account for you |
| 18:43.10 | malreth | ooh... money laundering |
| 18:44.32 | wereHamster | sure, as long as I get my cut |
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| 18:48.43 | malreth | arranges wereHamster's cut to be delivered as hookers and blow |
| 18:48.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Has anyone ever found anything against WoWMatrix other than (a) it says 'lawl IP lawls' and (2) has inline gold ads? |
| 18:49.21 | malreth | i heard they slap babies and infect puppies with AIDS |
| 18:49.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, it's gotten worse over time, has it |
| 18:49.51 | Lopeppeppy | Things usually do, ScytheBlade1. |
| 18:50.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: kinda like this guy on CSF who says that someone has compromised the blizzard patching servers and now blizzard is sending him keyloggerz. |
| 18:50.30 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:50.32 | malreth | http://girlyyy.com/go/206 |
| 18:51.14 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet. |
| 18:51.18 | Cairenn | ScytheBlade1: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=89833&postcount=9 |
| 18:51.25 | Lopeppeppy | I bet his firewall is going starkers due to the new patch numbe. Mine used to do that too. |
| 18:51.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: ha, good reference. thanks |
| 18:52.20 | Cairenn | it's theoretically about our patcher, but I'm actually talking about WoWMatrix (and its' ilk) |
| 18:52.30 | Cairenn | jUpdater, WUU, etc |
| 18:52.39 | Cairenn | WoWMatrix is the worst though |
| 18:52.57 | Cairenn | at least the others don't download from the other sites and upload to their own |
| 18:53.16 | Cairenn | but they do violate c |
| 18:53.57 | Cairenn | (all of them violate c, wowmatrix violates a & b) |
| 18:54.02 | Thunder_Child | lol, Dolby's post got me confused, it started with "I'm Shirik the author of the updater" |
| 18:54.11 | Cairenn | heh, yeah |
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| 19:28.24 | Lonny | Is it possible to remove some of the my older addons that I no longer maintain ? |
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| 19:29.03 | Lopeppeppy | From where, Lonny? |
| 19:29.18 | Lonny | WoWInterface |
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| 19:30.22 | Lonny | The thing is that I have two accounts there and these addons are old and exist on an account which I no longer use :/ |
| 19:30.51 | Lonny | Yeah good idea, I'll wait them to reply. :) |
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| 19:39.34 | laeg | does anybody know what the purpose of 'rogue ticks' is? |
| 19:39.52 | Wikwocket | Energy ticks? |
| 19:39.53 | Lonny | earn more energy :) |
| 19:40.46 | Wikwocket | I suppose the original purpose was, be a resource system that isn't mana or rage, that powers a combo-based system but with inherent limits |
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| 19:42.15 | nevcairiel | cladhaire: cant demolish town hall? |
| 19:42.26 | cladhaire | you just abandon the colony |
| 19:42.26 | nevcairiel | or not if too many people live in there? |
| 19:42.35 | nevcairiel | i want the resources back :( |
| 19:42.36 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 19:42.36 | cladhaire | i dont think you can ever demolish the town hall |
| 19:42.37 | cladhaire | well |
| 19:42.41 | cladhaire | you'd only get a bit back :P |
| 19:42.49 | nevcairiel | bit > 0 |
| 19:42.59 | nevcairiel | but yeah |
| 19:43.02 | nevcairiel | i'll just dump it then |
| 19:43.06 | nevcairiel | my 1000 poor people! |
| 19:43.23 | cladhaire | bitchez can collect unemployment |
| 19:43.47 | nevcairiel | about 1 hour until i cleared the colony, i guess |
| 19:44.06 | cladhaire | make sure to apply to WoM |
| 19:44.12 | cladhaire | I disbanded EPrev |
| 19:44.14 | cladhaire | Josh_Borke: U2 |
| 19:44.18 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 19:44.31 | nevcairiel | Do i need to write some fancy text or do they know wer're coming? |
| 19:44.38 | cladhaire | just say you're from EPrev |
| 19:44.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Did we ever figure out the tradeskill link format last night? |
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| 19:45.43 | Lonny | Cladhaire, is it possible to delete some of my older addons from WoWInterface ? |
| 19:45.51 | nevcairiel | cladhaire: that rank2 alliance there? |
| 19:45.54 | cladhaire | Lonny: yes, just contact one of the admins |
| 19:45.56 | cladhaire | nevcairiel: yes.. :P |
| 19:46.01 | Lonny | sure :) |
| 19:46.02 | nevcairiel | amazing |
| 19:46.02 | cladhaire | nevcairiel: thats part of why i figured it was a good idea |
| 19:49.43 | nevcairiel | ok applied |
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| 19:57.44 | Adys | We've revised the changes to slash commands so the msg argument is still first - they now work as follows: SlashCmdList["SLASHCMD"] = function (msg, editBox) end; This should allow everyone's slash command handlers to function without requiring rewriting! |
| 19:58.06 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 19:59.05 | cladhaire | lol |
| 19:59.40 | ScytheBlade1 | At least a search/replace should be fairly easy |
| 19:59.44 | Adys | yeah |
| 20:03.07 | foxlit | so why editBox in the first place? |
| 20:05.00 | Thunder_Child | chop chop Adys, no rest for the wicked |
| 20:05.45 | nevcairiel | cladhaire: you wouldnt happen to know how many resources a town hall without warehouse can hold? I dont want to overload my colonize ship :P |
| 20:06.08 | Cide | Adys: version control ftw ;) |
| 20:06.28 | Adys | ya true i can grab an old rev |
| 20:06.56 | Thunder_Child | nevcairiel, what game? |
| 20:07.02 | nevcairiel | ikariam.com |
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| 20:10.04 | Thunder_Child | nevcairiel, interesting, however i think i will stick with fate for the moment |
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| 20:10.29 | cladhaire | nevcairiel: I dont but lemme check |
| 20:11.06 | Lonny | Cairenn, is it possible to delete some of my older addons from WoWInterface ? |
| 20:11.08 | cladhaire | nevcairiel: 1,160 420 420 420 420 |
| 20:11.11 | nevcairiel | thanks |
| 20:11.12 | cladhaire | thats what the first level warehouse gets you |
| 20:11.16 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 20:11.23 | nevcairiel | oh well i'll just send that |
| 20:11.50 | Cairenn | Lonny: yes ... I got your PM, was just about to respond .... PM me again, with links to the ones you want deleted |
| 20:11.53 | nevcairiel | one hour something until my trade ships are free, anyway |
| 20:12.13 | Lonny | I actually want to delete the whole account, I no longer use it anyway ? :) |
| 20:12.33 | nevcairiel | on another note, i finally orderd a authenticator |
| 20:12.39 | nevcairiel | they are in stock again in the EU store |
| 20:12.45 | Cairenn | I know, but I either need to delete your mods, or transfer ownership of them to your new account, whichever you prefer |
| 20:13.09 | Cairenn | and for that, I need links, so I don't accidently delete/move incorrect ones |
| 20:13.11 | Lonny | delete it, I'm going to rewrite some of them for the WotlK anyway |
| 20:13.22 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 20:13.25 | Lonny | :) |
| 20:13.38 | Lonny | Feel free haha :P |
| 20:13.53 | Cairenn | just PM me with the links and I'll poof them, then I'll poof your old account |
| 20:13.58 | Lonny | sure |
| 20:14.39 | Fisker- | nevcairiel then i want a beta since i told you ;_; |
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| 20:19.01 | Adys | ~comfort purl |
| 20:19.01 | purl | There, there, purl. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 20:19.23 | Adys | That bot needs medical treatment |
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| 20:21.41 | Cairenn | Lonny: .... LINKS ... not names |
| 20:21.56 | Lonny | ah ok |
| 20:21.58 | Lonny | :D |
| 20:22.17 | TC-Away | www.lartcairenn.com |
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| 20:28.17 | Adys | Is there a working addon for wlk that improves error msgs? |
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| 20:35.19 | laeg | Lonny: more energy, how so? |
| 20:36.39 | Lonny | Well theortically, you can plan ahead and earn the next energy tick |
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| 20:36.47 | laeg | hmm |
| 20:37.05 | laeg | each time there's a tick it jumps up so if i use energy just as it is about to tick |
| 20:37.09 | laeg | kk ty |
| 20:37.17 | Lonny | np :) |
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| 20:52.22 | Hjalte | Seerah|away: Removing MinimapButtonFrame did not solve the problem. I'll try and raid without PocketPlot tommorow. |
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| 20:57.31 | Tem | hmm, it appears someone is trying to use my nick |
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| 21:00.23 | Mickael | hi |
| 21:00.44 | Mickael | hi anyone wanna make a WoW Server? |
| 21:01.00 | Thunder_Child | wow did you come to the wrong place |
| 21:01.05 | Mickael | .. |
| 21:01.07 | Mickael | What's? |
| 21:01.15 | Mickael | isnt this a WoW Irc.. |
| 21:01.15 | Thunder_Child | ~poke Cairenn |
| 21:01.16 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Cairenn, pokes Cairenn repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 21:01.30 | nevcairiel | or Shirik, he always has fun too |
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| 21:01.40 | nevcairiel | too late |
| 21:01.48 | nevcairiel | ~lart Fisker- |
| 21:01.48 | purl | takes a big bite out of Fisker-'s jugular vein |
| 21:01.57 | Fisker- | i require a beta :( |
| 21:02.04 | Thunder_Child | geez, all the admins missed out on the fun |
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| 21:02.06 | Fisker- | blargh i'm ded etc. |
| 21:02.08 | Lunessa | STATION! |
| 21:02.12 | nevcairiel | no you dont |
| 21:02.28 | Fisker- | BLARGH IM DED |
| 21:02.29 | Thunder_Child | ~poke Shirik |
| 21:02.30 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Shirik, pokes Shirik repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
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| 21:05.19 | Thunder_Child | to bad he didnt hang around to play |
| 21:09.08 | Josh_Borke | nevcairiel: first lvl town hall can hold 300/300/300/300 for lux goods |
| 21:09.10 | Josh_Borke | and 1k wood |
| 21:09.17 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 21:09.18 | nevcairiel | thanks |
| 21:09.55 | nevcairiel | the way is long down to clad, wanted to send as much as possible with the colony |
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| 21:10.34 | Josh_Borke | too much for me to demolish |
| 21:10.40 | Josh_Borke | i'm out of ships already :-( |
| 21:10.44 | nevcairiel | same |
| 21:10.52 | nevcairiel | i'm sending most stuff to my capital |
| 21:11.00 | nevcairiel | has alot of space to stack stuff |
| 21:11.05 | Josh_Borke | same |
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| 21:11.18 | cog|work | anyone know of a mirror for the beta client? don't want to clog up my work's net connection with p2p :P |
| 21:12.30 | Josh_Borke | hm, should have upgraded my trade port first |
| 21:13.03 | nevcairiel | screw that |
| 21:13.34 | Josh_Borke | bbl |
| 21:13.39 | Josh_Borke | takes time to ship stuff with lvl 1 |
| 21:17.24 | Xuerian | cog|work: Just set the number of peers to 3 or 4 :P |
| 21:18.00 | Lunessa | I'd link you my copy, but it's Mac OSX on this machine and I left my at home FTP server off. |
| 21:24.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Xuerian: how? |
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| 21:24.32 | Xuerian | ScytheBlade1: Use utorrent/transmission/whatever? |
| 21:25.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Xuerian: yeah I meant with the stock downloader ;) |
| 21:25.26 | Xuerian | ScytheBlade1: .. why use the stock downloader? |
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| 21:25.35 | cog|work | 'cause it has http direct |
| 21:25.39 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 21:26.13 | Xuerian | Then disable p2p or block the connections? |
| 21:26.32 | cog|work | the http is capped at 128KB/s |
| 21:26.58 | Xuerian | Damned either way then. >_> |
| 21:27.50 | cog|work | hence my question :P |
| 21:29.03 | Dashkal | ssh tunnel to a home box and proxy through it? |
| 21:29.31 | ScytheBlade1 | If it wasn't so massive I could mirror it |
| 21:29.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Just use the HTTP and let it sit overnight ;) |
| 21:29.44 | Lunessa | 1.9+gb is pretty freakign huge. |
| 21:29.47 | ScytheBlade1 | (or burn it and bring it in with you tomorrow) |
| 21:30.05 | cog|work | Dashkal: 1) i phail at getting a torrent to download on my linux box. 2) my upstream at home is slower than my downstream at work |
| 21:30.14 | Dashkal | mmm |
| 21:30.15 | cog|work | ScytheBlade1: that's what I've /intended/ to do... |
| 21:30.17 | cog|work | twice |
| 21:30.19 | cog|work | >< |
| 21:30.21 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 21:30.23 | ScytheBlade1 | "oops" |
| 21:30.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Just leave the HTTP going overnight |
| 21:30.48 | ScytheBlade1 | 100% guaranteed way that you'll remember to bring it in tomorrow, right there |
| 21:30.51 | Dashkal | Official (blizzard) WotLK talent calcs are up: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/talent-index/wrath.html |
| 21:30.56 | cog|work | /nod |
| 21:31.12 | Lunessa | cog|work: If you have still phailed later tonight, let me know, and I'll put it up somewhere for you. |
| 21:31.31 | cog|work | i think i'll go with ScytheBlade1's latest suggestion |
| 21:31.54 | cog|work | at this point, it'll take me longer than I'll be here even at full speed |
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| 21:45.48 | foxlit | Deathknight challenges: "levelling up to 80" |
| 21:46.05 | foxlit | ohnoes, how'll they ever live... unlive... whatever it is. |
| 21:46.12 | Seerah | Hjalte: hmm... okay |
| 21:48.16 | Lunessa | Mmmm... the language doesn't really lend itself to discussing your personal status once you're undead, you know? |
| 21:50.13 | Lunessa | OMG - Pure win: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/ |
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| 21:51.06 | Seerah | lol :) |
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| 21:52.39 | ScytheBlade1 | 03:57 < Antiarc> I'M FAMOUS |
| 21:52.39 | ScytheBlade1 | 03:57 < Antiarc> http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/ |
| 21:52.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Indeed he is |
| 21:52.57 | MBucari1 | hey, how do I increase the skill level of my professions? They're still at 1/75 |
| 21:53.10 | cog|work | MBucari1: by using them |
| 21:53.38 | MBucari1 | I have herbalism, but when I try to harvest a plant it says requires herbalism |
| 21:53.58 | zenzelezz | "Requires Herbalism 25"? |
| 21:54.01 | cog|work | does it say Requires Herbalism or does it say Requires Herbalism 25? |
| 21:54.27 | MBucari1 | don't remember |
| 21:54.35 | Dashkal | Go find peacebloom and silverleaf |
| 21:54.37 | cog|work | MBucari1: i'd suggest reading the game guide...http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/professions/ |
| 21:54.38 | zenzelezz | most likely it said a value |
| 21:54.50 | MBucari1 | ok, thanks |
| 21:54.57 | Kirov_ | The error message says the number, the tooltip does not |
| 21:55.53 | MBucari1 | thanks kirov_ |
| 21:57.38 | cog|work | gg for not reading the manual that came with your game... |
| 21:57.44 | cog|work | imo |
| 21:58.19 | zenzelezz | in this case I would have to agree |
| 21:58.34 | cog|work | and yet he had the wherewithall (sp?) to find this chat channel... |
| 21:58.35 | batbot | cog|work, wherewithal, wherewithal l, wherewithal-l, wherewith all, wherewith-all. |
| 22:00.19 | cog|work | wherewithal-l <-- that's the one... |
| 22:00.21 | cog|work | :> |
| 22:00.39 | bleeter | kog spelz gud |
| 22:00.46 | foxlit | "reading the manual that came with your game" |
| 22:00.53 | bleeter | "l2spelz wit teh kog" << want book |
| 22:00.57 | foxlit | What kind of a game comes with a manual? :) |
| 22:02.14 | amro | wow's manual was seriously outdated at release |
| 22:02.33 | zenzelezz | Microprose's games used to have some pretty big manuals |
| 22:02.35 | kamdis | I'll bet herbalism info was still correct though |
| 22:03.04 | cog|work | 1) the basic nature of the gathering professions has not changed |
| 22:03.08 | kamdis | How much does it take to understand a big red error that reads, "Requires Herbalism 25"? |
| 22:03.22 | cog|work | 2) the manual has URLs for the website |
| 22:03.23 | amro | I wasn't defending him :) |
| 22:03.30 | cog|work | 3) what kamdis said :P |
| 22:03.30 | amro | irssi fails, brb |
| 22:03.44 | kamdis | amro, i'm just joining the bashing to feel one of the crowd |
| 22:03.49 | foxlit | You know |
| 22:03.51 | kamdis | wasn't directed at you |
| 22:03.55 | foxlit | If the first herb you see requires herbalism 25 |
| 22:03.59 | foxlit | That's quite a connundrum |
| 22:04.11 | cog|work | foxlit: /1 imo |
| 22:04.11 | kamdis | point taken, foxlit |
| 22:04.30 | cog|work | he actuall found is way to a mod author IRC channel before finding his answer... |
| 22:04.35 | cog|work | s/ll/lly/ |
| 22:05.50 | cog|work | spent 10 minutes in general chat trying to figure it out... |
| 22:05.54 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 22:05.59 | ScytheBlade1 | I've done that with my wand once before :P |
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| 22:06.21 | cog|work | doesn't help that shoot & attack take on the icon of whatever weapon would do the shooting/attacking :P |
| 22:06.24 | kamdis | I've done that with my wand more than once, Cog. |
| 22:06.26 | kamdis | heh |
| 22:06.47 | amro | I used to buy gear from vendors. |
| 22:07.27 | foxlit | Frankly, blizzard failed there |
| 22:08.05 | foxlit | vendor-bought gear seems to serve no purpose whatsoever, except for the rare greens that mitigate your RNG luck at times |
| 22:08.28 | amro | there was little introductory material... today it's very different though, there are tons of guides |
| 22:08.32 | ScytheBlade1 | They should rename them from "Vendors" to "Junk Collectors" |
| 22:08.49 | bleeter | the only use for vendor gear is the moment, after account hacking and restore, you get your account back and you've got a week or so for the escalation to get the rest of your gear back |
| 22:08.58 | Tekkub | Billy Anygnome <Packrat> |
| 22:09.09 | bleeter | between that point, and going farming new drops to cover that week still |
| 22:09.15 | foxlit | bleeter: only for melee classes, really |
| 22:09.23 | foxlit | amro: the thing is, you've just bought a game |
| 22:09.40 | foxlit | Now you're going to read a guide on how to play it? Hardcore! |
| 22:09.40 | Iriel | There were the days before the extensive buy-back ability where it was handy in case you accidently equipped something grey and sold your good gear |
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| 22:10.08 | amro | lol foxlit. I usually read guides before playing games |
| 22:10.48 | cog|work | foxlit: my wife got FFXI about a week before I got WoW |
| 22:11.06 | cog|work | reading the manual before diving in was a must after that experience |
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| 22:11.42 | Tekkub | *sigh* I miss my galka's ass |
| 22:11.48 | Tekkub | *bounce bounce bounce* |
| 22:12.04 | foxlit | Generally, games I play seem to have a gentle habit of introducing themselves -- to a point where if that's missing, I imagine there's some game designer out there failing at their job |
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| 22:12.28 | foxlit | The new addon spotlight banner on WoWI makes me smile |
| 22:13.14 | cog|work | ? |
| 22:14.40 | foxlit | Has addon names / date on it. |
| 22:17.41 | Lunessa | Bah, I read maulas/guides for games. But I like strange games like CIV and GalCiv. |
| 22:18.52 | foxlit | CIV has great ingame help/interface, generally; GalCiv[2] manual sucked, I thought |
| 22:19.32 | cog|work | when a guide is more than 1/16" thick, i think it's usually worth at least a skim... |
| 22:20.05 | Lunessa | GalCiv manual and UI sucked so hard I thought it was trying to start a Harley. |
| 22:35.59 | Lunessa | Perhaps I should lay off the visually disturbing metaphors... |
| 22:36.15 | ScytheBlade1 | hwh |
| 22:36.17 | ScytheBlade1 | *heh |
| 22:37.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: you'll be somewhat happy to know... that I'm... still updating my gentoo desktop. :( |
| 22:38.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: 365/570 or so complete |
| 22:42.33 | Tenchworks | Shirik: ping |
| 22:44.21 | laeg | is there anyway i can put a grid on my screen so when aligning frame with perl unit frames i can see everything is square etc? |
| 22:44.48 | bleeter | pen and ruler |
| 22:44.59 | Tenchworks | laeg: there's a mod on wowI for that |
| 22:44.59 | bleeter | true hardcore would use oils |
| 22:45.04 | Tenchworks | called align |
| 22:45.18 | bleeter | oh, using an addon.. nm me then |
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| 23:00.45 | Gnarfoz | when did 2.4.3 go live again? last week? |
| 23:01.10 | amro | yes |
| 23:01.24 | Gnarfoz | thanks |
| 23:01.37 | zespri | cog|work, after all I turned otu to be |
| 23:01.46 | zespri | cog|work, after all I turned out to be right =) http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202600944&sid=1 |
| 23:02.40 | cog|work | no, you changed their minds about it :P |
| 23:02.43 | cog|work | mio |
| 23:02.46 | cog|work | s/mi/im/ |
| 23:02.48 | cog|work | ~fail me |
| 23:02.49 | purl | cog|work: FAIL! |
| 23:03.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Indeed they did |
| 23:03.23 | ScytheBlade1 | "IsAddOnLoaded has been changed" [...] |
| 23:03.51 | Thunder_Child | ~scream |
| 23:03.51 | purl | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!!! |
| 23:04.01 | foxlit | new mission: scour the internet for Dr. Horrible's headgear |
| 23:06.05 | Gnarfoz | ~_~ |
| 23:06.06 | purl | STOP DOING THAT! |
| 23:06.09 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 23:10.34 | Adys | We will be bringing down all beta realms at 4:00 PM PDT in order to implement an unlock on the previously locked Alpha characters. We expect this process to take one hour and anticipate having the realms available for play at 5:00 PM PDT. |
| 23:10.35 | haste | foxlit: let me know if you find it D: |
| 23:11.06 | |Jelly| | WTB beta access! /refreshedgmail |
| 23:11.09 | laeg | Tenchworks: ty dude |
| 23:11.35 | Tenchworks | np man |
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| 23:13.53 | kamdis | apparently the "people who use mods are cheaters" virus is affecting the forums again :( |
| 23:14.04 | ScytheBlade1 | kamdis: yeah I saw that |
| 23:14.11 | ScytheBlade1 | kamdis: died a little inside, moved on |
| 23:14.33 | kamdis | that's 2 so far |
| 23:14.40 | kamdis | and i've managed to keep from posting :) |
| 23:14.41 | foxlit | kamdis: retaliate with "people who use mods are smarter than you" :) |
| 23:14.51 | kamdis | ain't that the truth |
| 23:14.56 | Tekkub | no no no, it's "people who WRITE mods are cheater because they get beta keys" |
| 23:15.01 | kamdis | hahaha |
| 23:15.06 | kamdis | CHEATER! |
| 23:15.10 | kamdis | :-P |
| 23:15.32 | Cairenn | we've got another treat for you guys: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17261 |
| 23:16.01 | foxlit | "I'm against them except for Deadly Boss Mods" comedy! |
| 23:16.13 | Tekkub | "OMG PRIZES" that's great |
| 23:16.58 | Tekkub | *submits |
| 23:17.07 | ScytheBlade1 | ! |
| 23:17.12 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm already in that category! |
| 23:17.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Win! |
| 23:17.41 | kamdis | Neat, Cairenn. |
| 23:17.52 | *** topic/#WoWUIDev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 2.4.x ToC: 20400 | #WoWUIDev-commits : A place to watch active development of World of Warcraft addons. Multiple Sites' CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Beta opt-in: https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account/beta-opt-in.html || Author Key Give-Away! http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17207 | Dragon Kites for authors: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17261 |
| 23:18.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Hey people |
| 23:18.15 | ScytheBlade1 | No one add to that category |
| 23:18.26 | ScytheBlade1 | 10 addons = 10 prizes = 100% chance for me to win |
| 23:18.41 | ScytheBlade1 | =] |
| 23:19.21 | Xuerian | I agree with Kamdis :P |
| 23:19.29 | ScytheBlade1 | It's already there |
| 23:19.33 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/cat100.html |
| 23:20.49 | Tekkub | cair... http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5560 |
| 23:20.58 | Tekkub | morve to ROFL if that's where you want it :) |
| 23:21.58 | foxlit | two weeks, right? |
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| 23:23.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: that sounds oddly like an OSX error message |
| 23:24.18 | Lopeppeppy | XP, ScytheBlade1. |
| 23:24.33 | ScytheBlade1 | What'd you do to it? |
| 23:24.57 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 23:25.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Here's the related page but it won't make you happy: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555302 |
| 23:25.59 | Lopeppeppy | I think a power surge forked it, ScytheBlade1. We have wicked thunderstorms here in the summer. This would be the first computer I've lost to one in 10 years though. *sigh* |
| 23:26.05 | foxlit | It's a pity that you can't track camera position |
| 23:26.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 23:26.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Pop in the XP CD and do what it suggests you do |
| 23:27.03 | Lopeppeppy | Pretty much what my evening is going to be. IF I can find it. Having just moved, and not unpacked anything in this frellin' stupid room. GAAAAAH!!! |
| 23:27.14 | ScytheBlade1 | ~hug Lopeppeppy |
| 23:27.15 | purl | ACTION hugs Lopeppeppy |
| 23:27.46 | Xuerian | I usually just get ntldr errors:D |
| 23:27.48 | Lopeppeppy | I can has angst now, please? *sigh* I just, just, just got into this place, and it kills my computer in revenge? |
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| 23:28.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: the instructions are actually pretty easy. There's several other things that you can do with the CD too that may/may not help |
| 23:28.47 | Lopeppeppy | Can't hurt it much more than it already is at least, ScytheBlade1. |
| 23:29.39 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, blueberries! |
| 23:31.49 | Cairenn | foxlit: 3, Tekkub: moved |
| 23:31.52 | Lopeppeppy | Knock on wood, boyo. And thank you very much, Kamdis. |
| 23:31.59 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 23:37.10 | batrick | wow |
| 23:37.19 | batrick | I was admiring that pet just yesterday |
| 23:37.23 | batrick | Cairenn: u rock |
| 23:37.39 | Cairenn | :) |
| 23:38.17 | Lunessa | She does, indeed, rock. And she has red hair. BONUS. |
| 23:39.17 | Xuerian | I concur with Lunessa. Red hair > all. |
| 23:39.22 | batrick | now I gotta think of a crazy mod |
| 23:39.48 | ScytheBlade1 | batrick: no! quit dropping my chances! I was at 100%, now I'm just a bit below that! :( |
| 23:39.51 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 23:40.01 | Lunessa | Well, not all. I mean, like I'm really fond of it, but I think a few things might be more important to me. Like... an actual interest in me. :P |
| 23:40.38 | batrick | there was a funny addon someone put out earlier |
| 23:40.48 | batrick | would make your screen go black if you lost control of your character |
| 23:40.58 | batrick | that's a guaranteed win if they put the ROFL keyword lol |
| 23:41.01 | Lunessa | Peril sensitive sunglasses! |
| 23:41.08 | Lopeppeppy | Joojanta. |
| 23:41.35 | Gnarfoz | 200 |
| 23:41.38 | batrick | Cairenn: do we get bonus points if it is all self contained in a macro? |
| 23:41.57 | Cairenn | lol |
| 23:42.01 | Lopeppeppy | ScytheBlade1, it won't even acknowledge that there's a disk in the CD drive. I breaked it good. :) |
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| 23:42.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: you DID break it good. Check the BIOS? |
| 23:42.51 | Xuerian | 0.o |
| 23:42.58 | Xuerian | Finger goes in OTHER hole. |
| 23:43.15 | Lopeppeppy | ScytheBlade1, can't get to BIOS either. *grin* |
| 23:43.22 | Xuerian | Fried something >_o |
| 23:43.26 | Shirik | wait, there's racial /roar sounds? |
| 23:43.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: you, ma'am, are impressive |
| 23:43.31 | Xuerian | yes, shirik |
| 23:43.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: try F2/F10/F12 and tab |
| 23:43.39 | Shirik | now I have to see this... |
| 23:43.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Mash them all as you boot it |
| 23:43.55 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy: And F1, and delete |
| 23:43.59 | Shirik | and F5 |
| 23:44.05 | Shirik | you know what just mash all the buttons |
| 23:44.22 | Xuerian | Lopeppeppy: If that doesn't work, disconnect all cd/hard drives, remove all but one stick of ram, all add-in cards but video, and see what happens :) |
| 23:44.26 | Lopeppeppy | I'm mashing, I'm mashing. *grin* |
| 23:45.56 | bleeter | ooh, seems like random bounceback mails are still vanishing |
| 23:55.29 | Xinhuan | i just read the contest |
| 23:55.33 | Xinhuan | i'm intrigued ;p |
| 23:58.15 | foxlit | haste: http://www.mysafetygear.com/Welding-28550 |
| 23:59.56 | haste | awesome :D |
