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| 00:15.08 | alestane | Anyone know any library out there that maintains a database of rare mob sightings? |
| 00:16.52 | Nechckn | Check out SilverDragon |
| 00:17.11 | Nechckn | that has a set of relatively reliable info |
| 00:17.47 | Kaso | http://www.wowhead.com/?npcs&filter=cl=4:2 ? |
| 00:19.25 | alestane | Kaso: thanks, but I was actually looking for one in-game (I realize I didn't specify). |
| 00:19.30 | alestane | Nechckn: Thanks. |
| 00:19.35 | alestane | Later all. |
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| 00:50.05 | Shirik | oh my life, this computer hates me |
| 00:50.28 | Thunder_Child | missed an shi and a space |
| 00:50.38 | Thunder_Child | FFFFAAAAIIIILLLL |
| 00:52.52 | batrick | ~~ |
| 00:52.53 | purl | Every moment in which I'm called upon is torture. |
| 00:53.19 | Thunder_Child | thats not very nice batrick |
| 00:53.24 | batrick | So I have a vexing problem |
| 00:53.38 | batrick | I want to code (do work) while accomplishing stuff semi afk in wow |
| 00:53.58 | Thunder_Child | voice commands |
| 00:54.03 | batrick | While it's ez to do in AV, it's wsg weekend |
| 00:54.05 | batrick | so what do i do |
| 00:54.46 | Thunder_Child | since i doubt the voice commands work bassed off of window focus you can do voice commands to controll wow while you code |
| 00:56.05 | batrick | voice commands? |
| 00:56.19 | Thunder_Child | ya, for handicapped people |
| 00:56.26 | Thunder_Child | but it's still valid |
| 00:56.43 | Thunder_Child | it requires another program though i think |
| 00:56.59 | Shirik | batrick |
| 00:57.02 | Shirik | fix my linuxes |
| 00:57.12 | Thunder_Child | you has more than one Shirik? |
| 00:57.51 | Shirik | it's so wierd |
| 00:57.57 | Shirik | while it's starting up, it detects my wireless card |
| 00:58.02 | Shirik | but it refuses to use it |
| 00:59.10 | Shirik | I mean it doesn't help that I can't get to www.gentoo.org anyway |
| 00:59.17 | Shirik | though all the other sites work (bugs.gentoo.org, etc.) |
| 01:02.07 | batrick | iono |
| 01:13.27 | Shirik | yey |
| 01:13.30 | Shirik | authenticator shipped |
| 01:13.36 | Shirik | it'll probably get home before I do |
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| 01:15.33 | Thunder_Child | lolz@authenticator |
| 01:16.37 | batrick | ya well shirik needs one cuz he uses lolwindblows |
| 01:16.52 | Shirik | :< |
| 01:16.52 | Thunder_Child | i use windows and it's still silly to me |
| 01:17.03 | Shirik | I don't see a reason not to use it |
| 01:17.05 | batrick | here's an idea |
| 01:17.10 | batrick | don't surf the net on windows |
| 01:17.14 | Thunder_Child | cost moneys |
| 01:17.19 | Shirik | $6.... |
| 01:17.32 | Shirik | I paid for a fricking MSDN subscription, I think I can afford an authenticator :P |
| 01:17.45 | Thunder_Child | $6 is to much for something (for me) thats pointless |
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| 01:20.37 | batrick | Shirik: so what, your WoW acc doesn't get stolen |
| 01:20.42 | batrick | your comp can still be ridden with keyloggers |
| 01:21.29 | Shirik | yup yup |
| 01:21.35 | Shirik | what else are they going to do, break into my svn repo? |
| 01:22.08 | batrick | credit card numbers? |
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| 01:22.30 | Shirik | psh |
| 01:22.34 | Shirik | I don't use credit card numbers on this computer |
| 01:24.40 | Shirik | off to try again! PZ! |
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| 01:49.27 | Greta | How do I split a string on each space? :o |
| 01:50.20 | batrick | strsplit(str, " ") |
| 01:50.25 | batrick | does it i think |
| 01:50.41 | Greta | What does it return? A table? |
| 01:51.24 | Greta | Found it on wowwiki, thanks :) |
| 01:51.26 | batrick | no, each string |
| 01:51.35 | batrick | and it's strsplit(delimiter, string) |
| 01:51.41 | batrick | (apparently) |
| 01:51.44 | batrick | which is silly imo |
| 01:52.52 | Greta | Hmm, "test, ... = strsplit(" ", "test testing");" does not work |
| 01:52.58 | Greta | how am I supposed to do it? |
| 01:53.26 | Greta | local a, b, c = strsplit(" ", "a b c") i guess |
| 01:53.37 | Greta | local tbl = { strsplit(delimiter, subject) } |
| 01:53.38 | Greta | * |
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| 01:58.04 | |Jelly| | ~hug Peppy |
| 01:58.05 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Peppy |
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| 01:59.39 | Lopeppeppy | Ooof, |Jelly| ! |
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| 02:34.27 | |Jelly| | ~hug Shirik |
| 02:34.28 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Shirik |
| 02:35.45 | Lopeppeppy | Hi, Shirik. I was just looking for amusement, thank you for waking up. |
| 02:35.50 | Shirik | :( |
| 02:35.59 | Shirik | I didn't wake up, and I failed installing gentoo again |
| 02:36.02 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, did you get it working? |
| 02:36.04 | Thunder_Child | nvm then |
| 02:36.52 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, I'm so sorry Shirik. *hug* |
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| 02:37.02 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, alestane. |
| 02:37.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: careful what you ask for here..... :) |
| 02:37.12 | alestane | Oh heyo peppy. |
| 02:38.03 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, she said amusement not...oh...she would spend the whole time laughing at you anyway so never mind |
| 02:38.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: that's more or less what I'm here for, so mission accomplished |
| 02:39.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Err |
| 02:39.26 | ScytheBlade1 | haha, I just got that |
| 02:41.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: As in this? http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/chi/595498265.html (very NSFW, text only) |
| 02:42.20 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, close enough |
| 02:42.45 | Thunder_Child | glad you cought it though |
| 02:42.50 | Thunder_Child | caught* |
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| 02:43.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Only took me a good minute |
| 02:46.14 | Sixen_ | lol@sbo. |
| 02:46.51 | Thunder_Child | yes, emotions dont work to well through text |
| 02:47.15 | Thunder_Child | and i would rather not append my point at the end [sarcasim] |
| 02:47.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Nah, wasn't you, that was me |
| 02:47.46 | ScytheBlade1 | And my awesome reading comprehension skills while under the influence of lortab and caffiene |
| 02:47.58 | Thunder_Child | lortab? |
| 02:48.04 | Thunder_Child | i know the second one |
| 02:48.22 | ScytheBlade1 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lortab |
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| 02:48.30 | Shirik | oh purl_, how I hate you so much |
| 02:48.43 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, why not fix the onjoin |
| 02:48.52 | Shirik | mostly because I don't know how |
| 02:48.53 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 02:48.56 | ScytheBlade1 | hahahahah |
| 02:48.58 | ScytheBlade1 | I forgot about that |
| 02:49.03 | ScytheBlade1 | ~onjoin -Shirik |
| 02:49.03 | purl | ScytheBlade1: ok |
| 02:49.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: /cycle (or /hop, or whatever your rejoin command is on your funky client) |
| 02:50.12 | Shirik | hop ftw |
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| 02:50.28 | Shirik | though I agree that's a stupid command |
| 02:50.37 | Shirik | since there is a "hop" on some servers |
| 02:50.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 02:51.06 | ScytheBlade1 | One of my other servers there is a half-op status (hop) |
| 02:51.23 | Shirik | % |
| 02:51.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 02:54.41 | Shirik | damn it, I knew I forgot something |
| 02:54.44 | Shirik | I blame ScytheBlade1 |
| 02:54.47 | Shirik | distracting me |
| 02:55.28 | Shirik | random question: Is it wrong to say "raid array"? |
| 02:55.43 | Shirik | since the "a" stands for array |
| 02:56.50 | Thunder_Child | if not redundant then it just sounds weird |
| 02:57.12 | Thunder_Child | redundant array of independant drives array |
| 02:57.30 | Thunder_Child | or inexpensive, if your part of the new people |
| 02:58.09 | Shirik | inexpensive? |
| 02:58.12 | Shirik | screw that |
| 02:58.21 | Shirik | do a RAID0 of solid state drives |
| 02:58.43 | Shirik | see how expensive it is NOW |
| 02:59.30 | Thunder_Child | it will get cheaper, just like the platters did now |
| 02:59.36 | Shirik | pop quiz ScytheBlade1, how to mount a flash drive |
| 02:59.49 | Thunder_Child | well, first you take off your pants |
| 02:59.55 | Guillotine | step 1) get a saddle |
| 02:59.56 | Lopeppeppy | ... tsk tsk. |
| 03:00.00 | Shirik | omg |
| 03:00.03 | Shirik | all 3 of you |
| 03:00.08 | Thunder_Child | we win |
| 03:00.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: it not wrong if you ACTUALLY mean raid array, although i'm not sure how multidimensional drive arrays would work.. |
| 03:01.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: technically it is redundant. But no one cares. With that said, a non-redundant "RAID Array" is awesome and win. ;) |
| 03:01.12 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 03:01.12 | Thunder_Child | its the same word NightHawkTheSane |
| 03:01.13 | Lopeppeppy | I wasn't doing anything! |
| 03:01.14 | ScytheBlade1 | NightHawkTheSane beat me :P |
| 03:01.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, and Shirik, just like a normal drive |
| 03:01.57 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 03:02.02 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, ScytheBlade1 is coorect since some old school flash drives were detected as external HD's |
| 03:02.05 | ScytheBlade1 | I just read up, hahaha |
| 03:02.12 | Thunder_Child | correct* |
| 03:02.24 | ScytheBlade1 | If you can't tell where the drive is |
| 03:02.26 | ScytheBlade1 | dmesg | tail |
| 03:02.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Will usually tell you |
| 03:02.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Failing that you can always check /var/log/messages |
| 03:02.55 | Shirik | I'm on the live CD btw |
| 03:03.01 | Shirik | should it support it? |
| 03:03.19 | ScytheBlade1 | I once thought you knew what you were doing; NO MORE |
| 03:03.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah it should support it fine |
| 03:03.33 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 03:03.41 | Shirik | :( |
| 03:03.46 | Shirik | this laptop is giving me tons of trouble |
| 03:03.57 | Shirik | found it though, at /dev/sdc |
| 03:04.03 | Shirik | I think vista formatted it crazy though |
| 03:04.08 | ScytheBlade1 | tbh, gentoo has been dying for quite a while |
| 03:04.17 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm not sure if it is worth the hassle anymore |
| 03:04.19 | Shirik | no better choice :P |
| 03:04.29 | Shirik | don't you dare say ubuntu |
| 03:04.37 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm really not interested in ubuntu |
| 03:04.49 | ScytheBlade1 | I run debian centos openbsd XP vista embedded gentoo and gentoo :P |
| 03:04.57 | Lopeppeppy | That sounds contagious, dear. |
| 03:05.00 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 03:05.04 | ScytheBlade1 | It kind of is! |
| 03:07.00 | Nechckn | Shirik what about Sunday evening? |
| 03:07.07 | Shirik | works for me |
| 03:11.54 | Nechckn | Now... what to do, what to do... |
| 03:12.13 | Lopeppeppy | Rollerblading |
| 03:12.29 | Nechckn | eww |
| 03:12.37 | Lopeppeppy | Do for what? |
| 03:12.42 | Nechckn | thought not a horrid thing, not the best area to do so |
| 03:13.06 | NightHawkTheSane | heh, "What's the hardest part about rollerblading?" |
| 03:13.15 | Nechckn | Shirik is entertaining me =) |
| 03:13.16 | Lopeppeppy | The ground |
| 03:13.17 | NightHawkTheSane | "Telling your parents you're gay." |
| 03:13.24 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:13.26 | ScytheBlade1 | That took a second |
| 03:13.28 | Nechckn | lololo |
| 03:13.31 | Nechckn | not bad |
| 03:13.39 | Lopeppeppy | If Shirik is entertaining you, why are you thinking of what to do? *laugh* |
| 03:13.42 | NightHawkTheSane | no offense intended, of course. :D |
| 03:14.06 | Nechckn | Lopeppeppy Good point, I'll make him figure it out! |
| 03:14.09 | Nechckn | ./woof! |
| 03:14.48 | Lopeppeppy | It's his town, he knows what's around. I like to visit used book stores and game stores, myself. |
| 03:15.17 | Shirik | Nechckn, I have no idea >< |
| 03:15.40 | Nechckn | meh.. we could like... get dinner, hang around Adam's Morgan or something |
| 03:15.48 | Shirik | hang around who? |
| 03:15.54 | Nechckn | downtown is sorta dead Sunday after noonish |
| 03:16.26 | Nechckn | 17th Street, between like U and Rock Creek park |
| 03:16.54 | Nechckn | oh my.... are you sure you're from around here? =) |
| 03:17.27 | Nechckn | Ok... second thing... are you able to drive or Metro at least part of the way in? |
| 03:18.25 | Nechckn | bah.. I'm sure everyone is just ever so interested. Send me a pm thinger |
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| 03:18.45 | NightHawkTheSane | i dunno, it was vaguely entertaining.. |
| 03:20.07 | Lopeppeppy | I love to keep track of friends and events, I'm such a dragon. |
| 03:21.17 | Nechckn | Hmm... just noticed that Horde do not get Thrallmar, while all of my Alliance toons started with HH and the Portal Flight Points. What is a lowly hordie to do? run it? |
| 03:21.39 | Nechckn | since you sort of need to get there for a few profession trainers, this is. |
| 03:21.57 | Shirik | *stab stab stab stab stab* |
| 03:22.05 | Shirik | anyway |
| 03:22.11 | Shirik | Nechckn, not really "DC" per se |
| 03:22.13 | Lopeppeppy | *meep* |
| 03:22.15 | Shirik | northern virginia :P |
| 03:23.17 | Shirik | ifconfig -a: No devices |
| 03:23.26 | Shirik | rmmod iwl4965: Module iwl4965 is in use |
| 03:23.32 | Shirik | IF IT'S IN USE WHERE THE HELL IS IT |
| 03:24.02 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:24.04 | ScytheBlade1 | You need the firmware |
| 03:24.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Which may or may not be included by default |
| 03:24.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Check /var/log/messages for complains about it |
| 03:24.24 | Lopeppeppy | Oh bloody |
| 03:25.04 | Shirik | oh wow |
| 03:25.17 | Shirik | there's a nice big crash trace in my /var/log/messages from modprobe |
| 03:25.33 | NightHawkTheSane | heh http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoons/MarguJ/2008/MarguJ20080711A_low.jpg |
| 03:25.39 | Shirik | but it says it started ok :/ |
| 03:26.15 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm betting it didn't in all truth |
| 03:26.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Consider using a knoppix CD to boot it instead |
| 03:27.23 | ScytheBlade1 | .ap 1340 |
| 03:27.39 | Corrodias | ah yes, editorials. people paid to say their opinions. |
| 03:28.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Corrodias: all media is someone paid to say someone's opinion. |
| 03:28.17 | Lopeppeppy | It can be hard to have a marketable opinion. |
| 03:28.32 | Corrodias | okay, okay, paid not to pretend it's an unbiased report of the truth |
| 03:28.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Pretend it isn't? |
| 03:28.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Err |
| 03:28.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Sorry, I'm not nearly 100% right now :) |
| 03:29.23 | Lopeppeppy | I never am, ScytheBlade1, I understand totally. *hug* |
| 03:29.30 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 03:29.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Thanks, 'peppey |
| 03:33.49 | Shirik | ok, is it bad when you do "kill -s SIGKILL pid" and then "ps -A | grep pid" and it's still there? |
| 03:34.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Why not `killall -9 processname`? |
| 03:34.11 | Thunder_Child | ^^ |
| 03:34.24 | Thunder_Child | or pid |
| 03:34.45 | Shirik | same thing ScytheBlade1 |
| 03:34.49 | Shirik | it's still there |
| 03:34.54 | ScytheBlade1 | I go for simplicity ;) |
| 03:35.01 | ScytheBlade1 | What process/ |
| 03:35.10 | ScytheBlade1 | *? |
| 03:35.16 | Thunder_Child | prolly xwin |
| 03:35.24 | Shirik | uh |
| 03:35.26 | Shirik | please don't kill me |
| 03:35.30 | Shirik | modprobe >.> |
| 03:35.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Quit breaking your stuff |
| 03:35.44 | ScytheBlade1 | imo |
| 03:35.51 | Shirik | what's there to break |
| 03:35.54 | Shirik | I'm just on a live cd anyway |
| 03:35.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Apparently modprobe and your wifi |
| 03:36.08 | Shirik | I need to do something while waiting for knoppix to download |
| 03:36.10 | NightHawkTheSane | im pretty sure you could break a live cd, Shirik |
| 03:36.28 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane, physical doesnt count |
| 03:36.37 | Lopeppeppy | I'm pretty sure Shirik could break anything he wanted broken. |
| 03:36.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm pretty sure half the time he doesn't even /want/ them broken |
| 03:36.55 | Shirik | what if I just do something ilke |
| 03:37.10 | Shirik | killall -9 `ps -A` |
| 03:37.16 | Shirik | eh |
| 03:37.19 | Shirik | kill -9 `ps -A` |
| 03:37.22 | ScytheBlade1 | How about you just hit the reset button? |
| 03:37.23 | Thunder_Child | in 'nix class i held (and prolly still do) the record for most times breaking FC |
| 03:37.49 | Shirik | I blame my laptop |
| 03:37.52 | Shirik | it's too new imo |
| 03:37.55 | Shirik | totally not my fault |
| 03:38.05 | ScytheBlade1 | iwl4965 is not new |
| 03:38.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I have the same card in my laptop |
| 03:38.22 | ScytheBlade1 | It runs fine |
| 03:38.22 | ScytheBlade1 | ~failrik |
| 03:38.23 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 03:38.23 | ScytheBlade1 | purl_: fail |
| 03:39.04 | Shirik | hmmmm |
| 03:39.07 | Shirik | maybe I shouldn't have done that |
| 03:39.12 | Shirik | oh there we go |
| 03:39.14 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 03:39.16 | Lopeppeppy | Ya think, dear. |
| 03:39.27 | Shirik | !!! still in use |
| 03:39.29 | Shirik | so much fail |
| 03:39.40 | Shirik | I don't even have localhost anymore but apparently my wireless card is still in use |
| 03:39.52 | ScytheBlade1 | 23:37 < ScytheBlade1> How about you just hit the reset button? |
| 03:39.58 | Shirik | why :( |
| 03:40.03 | Shirik | all I did was init 1 |
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| 03:40.16 | ScytheBlade1 | It'd be faster, and you're on a livecd |
| 03:40.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Why not? |
| 03:40.26 | Shirik | why do I want to restart? |
| 03:40.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Because you're broken? |
| 03:40.40 | Shirik | I am? |
| 03:40.50 | Shirik | it's been this way the whole time :P |
| 03:40.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, we DO have a custom fail just for you |
| 03:40.59 | ScytheBlade1 | I think that's saying things ;) |
| 03:41.38 | Shirik | :( |
| 03:41.52 | Shirik | all I wants is my linux to work so I don't have to do 500 things just toget "nm" to work |
| 03:42.08 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 03:42.09 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:43.29 | ScytheBlade1 | can't help you there, sorry |
| 03:43.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: install osx. ;) |
| 03:43.47 | Shirik | hell. no. |
| 03:44.16 | ScytheBlade1 | There have been some fun OSX bugs that never got nearly enough publicity, imo |
| 03:45.30 | ScytheBlade1 | They compiled the PPC ruby libs on an Intel box, and broke them entirely as a result |
| 03:45.33 | Shirik | so I'm confused, ScytheBlade1, what did you mean about firmware? |
| 03:45.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Leaving the stock ruby install unable to resolve DNS names |
| 03:46.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: all of the intel drivers load firmware as part of their modprobe routine |
| 03:46.07 | Shirik | ah |
| 03:46.20 | ScytheBlade1 | http://intellinuxwireless.org/?n=Downloads |
| 03:46.25 | ScytheBlade1 | "Microcode Images" |
| 03:46.36 | ScytheBlade1 | If you don't have those on the system at the time of modprobe, it simply won't work |
| 03:46.52 | ScytheBlade1 | That's also how they managed to get the intel wifi driver into the kernel |
| 03:47.09 | ScytheBlade1 | The driver itself doesn't require and closed source software; but the firmware image is locked down nice and tight |
| 03:47.20 | ScytheBlade1 | The stock kernel also supports firmware loading |
| 03:49.16 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: It's sitting there in /lib/firmware :/ |
| 03:49.24 | Shirik | iwlwifi-4965-1.ucode |
| 03:49.31 | ScytheBlade1 | That isn't your problem then |
| 03:50.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Humor me |
| 03:50.37 | ScytheBlade1 | What does `iwconfig -a` show? |
| 03:51.28 | Shirik | uh |
| 03:51.35 | Shirik | -a No such device |
| 03:51.36 | Shirik | ? |
| 03:51.45 | Shirik | or did you mean ifconfig? |
| 03:51.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 03:51.59 | ScytheBlade1 | No I meant iwconfig |
| 03:52.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh right, iwconfig lists all by default |
| 03:52.11 | ScytheBlade1 | So just `iwconfig` |
| 03:52.22 | Shirik | lo no wireless extensions |
| 03:52.24 | Shirik | that's it |
| 03:52.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Then your driver is broken in new and sinister ways |
| 03:52.50 | ScytheBlade1 | s/driver/laptop/ |
| 03:52.53 | Shirik | does that mean I win? |
| 03:53.08 | Lopeppeppy | ~win shirik |
| 03:53.09 | purl | Congratulations, shirik! You have won the US presidency! |
| 03:53.09 | Lopeppeppy | Nope, guess not. |
| 03:53.17 | Shirik | yey, now I can be the next bush |
| 03:53.19 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, I totally guess not then! :) |
| 03:56.07 | ScytheBlade1 | purl is a bit slow tonight, it seems |
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| 03:56.42 | Shirik | oh well, let's try booting with noload=iwl4965 and see what happens :P |
| 03:57.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Boo, I need to go farm more consumables |
| 03:57.48 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah Shirik, try booting without the thingiewhatsis and see how it works. |
| 03:57.53 | Shirik | ~hug Lopeppeppy |
| 03:57.54 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on Lopeppeppy and suddenly hugs Lopeppeppy tightly |
| 03:57.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Though, I am pleased that the last time I made Wizard Oil was over five months ago |
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| 03:58.33 | Lopeppeppy | ~botsnack |
| 03:58.33 | purl | aw, gee, Lopeppeppy |
| 03:59.36 | Shirik | rofl |
| 03:59.38 | Shirik | it loaded anyway |
| 03:59.39 | Shirik | wtf |
| 03:59.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Did it work this time? |
| 03:59.56 | Shirik | probably not |
| 03:59.57 | Shirik | still loading |
| 04:00.24 | Shirik | nope |
| 04:02.11 | Lopeppeppy | Oops |
| 04:02.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Reboot, and check the F1-F6 screens of info for proper syntax? |
| 04:03.02 | ScytheBlade1 | And double-check the module name? |
| 04:03.21 | Shirik | yah already checked it |
| 04:03.28 | Shirik | that's where I got the idea :P |
| 04:03.30 | ScytheBlade1 | In that case |
| 04:03.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Use Knoppix. |
| 04:03.39 | Shirik | so much downloading! |
| 04:03.43 | Shirik | It's been downloading while I try all this |
| 04:03.57 | Shirik | 26.8% done |
| 04:04.01 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 04:04.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Fastest I've ever downloaded knoppix was 30m, full CD version |
| 04:04.34 | Shirik | oh, I'm downloading a dvd :/ |
| 04:04.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Back then I had the Comcast "turbo boost" or whatever that gives you the first 10 seconds at 10MB/sec |
| 04:04.38 | ScytheBlade1 | And saved it to a ramdisk |
| 04:04.44 | Shirik | I'm downloading at 700KB/sec |
| 04:04.45 | ScytheBlade1 | That thing _flew_ |
| 04:04.46 | Shirik | which is nice |
| 04:04.48 | Shirik | but still |
| 04:05.02 | batrick | nothing beats dorm connection speeds... |
| 04:05.12 | Shirik | woot! |
| 04:05.19 | Shirik | Ok, booted with "nodetect" |
| 04:05.21 | Shirik | and it's not loaded |
| 04:05.29 | ScytheBlade1 | That's also another way |
| 04:05.35 | Shirik | and now, we get somewhere |
| 04:05.39 | Shirik | modprobe iwl4965 |
| 04:05.49 | Shirik | iwl4965: iwlwifi-4965-1.ucode firmware file req failed: Reason 2 |
| 04:05.59 | Shirik | iwl4965: Could not read microcode: -2 |
| 04:06.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Totally called that forever ago |
| 04:06.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Where is it located right now? |
| 04:06.17 | Shirik | there's nothing in /lib/firmware.... |
| 04:06.18 | Shirik | wtf |
| 04:06.20 | Shirik | where did it go |
| 04:06.24 | ScytheBlade1 | ^^ |
| 04:06.27 | ScytheBlade1 | rmmod it and try again |
| 04:06.30 | Shirik | but.... it was there |
| 04:06.34 | ScytheBlade1 | After you download the firmware |
| 04:06.40 | Shirik | but... |
| 04:06.50 | Shirik | this computer is playing mind tricks with me |
| 04:06.52 | ScytheBlade1 | You also booted with nodetect |
| 04:07.19 | Shirik | downloading :( |
| 04:07.32 | Shirik | oh god |
| 04:07.36 | Shirik | my flash drive isn't going to work, is it |
| 04:10.39 | NightHawkTheSane | not without a priest, some holy water, and a few nuns. |
| 04:11.10 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr? |
| 04:12.29 | Shirik | Well I'm a priest |
| 04:13.41 | Lopeppeppy | I'm a paladin, will that do to substitute for a nun? |
| 04:16.03 | NightHawkTheSane | so, now all we need is varimathras, and a baR? |
| 04:16.07 | NightHawkTheSane | wait.. wrong joke.. |
| 04:16.14 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm-hmm |
| 04:19.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Cleaning out my bank/bags feels surprisingly good |
| 04:20.11 | ScytheBlade1 | On the flip side, I have a single slot open in my general consumables bag |
| 04:20.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Which is going to drive me outright insane |
| 04:23.10 | Shirik | I did find out what's causing my crash at startup though |
| 04:23.14 | Shirik | module r8169 |
| 04:31.29 | batrick | oi shirik |
| 04:32.17 | Lopeppeppy | And what does that do for you? |
| 04:33.47 | Shirik | my ethernet driver |
| 04:34.28 | Lopeppeppy | That does suck some. |
| 04:35.42 | Shirik | not too worried about it |
| 04:35.45 | Shirik | I can live without that driver |
| 04:35.53 | Shirik | if I can just convince it not to install |
| 04:36.13 | Lopeppeppy | Okay. That's a start. |
| 04:40.24 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got... Staff of Dark Mending, King's Defender, Terestian's Stranglestaff, The Sun Eater, and Quickening Blade of the Prince |
| 04:40.27 | ScytheBlade1 | On... my mage |
| 04:40.31 | ScytheBlade1 | All gemmed and enchanted |
| 04:40.41 | Lopeppeppy | Tsk tsk |
| 04:41.01 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy wants to see I think |
| 04:41.20 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr. Mages are hot. I guess. |
| 04:41.25 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:41.28 | ScytheBlade1 | "I guess." |
| 04:41.43 | ScytheBlade1 | So much enthauism! |
| 04:41.47 | ScytheBlade1 | (only spelled right) |
| 04:42.08 | Lopeppeppy | I know. It's past midnight, not much enthuses me. *hug* |
| 04:42.21 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 04:42.25 | Drundia | i need bigger collection of melee weapons on my warlock.... |
| 04:43.47 | Lopeppeppy | I need more dps for my healydin |
| 04:44.26 | Shirik | so close.... |
| 04:44.28 | Shirik | I was so close |
| 04:44.37 | Shirik | I thought I finally had it this time but NO |
| 04:44.48 | Lopeppeppy | What this time? |
| 04:45.21 | Shirik | it just does the same thing, sitting there oh it stopped |
| 04:45.25 | Shirik | could not read microcode |
| 04:45.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 04:45.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Try to strace the modprobe? |
| 04:45.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Dunno how well it'd work, if at all |
| 04:46.01 | ScytheBlade1 | But it's worth a shot |
| 04:46.06 | Shirik | strace? |
| 04:46.16 | ScytheBlade1 | sigh |
| 04:46.27 | ScytheBlade1 | try `strace ls` |
| 04:46.36 | ScytheBlade1 | For example |
| 04:47.27 | Shirik | strace: command not found |
| 04:47.29 | Shirik | are there two firmwares? |
| 04:47.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh right |
| 04:47.35 | ScytheBlade1 | livecd fail |
| 04:47.42 | Shirik | yes there are |
| 04:47.46 | Shirik | I think I need the other one :/ |
| 04:47.47 | Shirik | dododo |
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| 04:48.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: http://wowi.pastey.net/91233 |
| 04:48.34 | ScytheBlade1 | That's a truncated example of what strace does |
| 04:48.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Truncated and filtered |
| 04:49.01 | ScytheBlade1 | It launches a program and watches *every* system call it runs |
| 04:49.07 | ScytheBlade1 | And then prints them to you |
| 04:49.19 | Shirik | interesting |
| 04:49.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Amazingly useful to debug... a lot of things |
| 04:50.21 | Shirik | gotta admit though |
| 04:50.28 | Shirik | I've gotten a lot faster with linux commands today |
| 04:51.24 | dread | Shirik, what distro do you use? |
| 04:51.32 | Shirik | YES! |
| 04:51.34 | Shirik | I win |
| 04:51.42 | Shirik | also ScytheBlade1 gets some win for helping me out |
| 04:53.06 | Shirik | omg so happy right now except for one thing |
| 04:53.07 | ScytheBlade1 | He's trying to install gentoo |
| 04:53.10 | Shirik | it took me 30 minutes to finish that |
| 04:53.10 | ScytheBlade1 | But the livecd is broke |
| 04:53.20 | Shirik | and I am not taking 30 minutes to boot every time, lol |
| 04:53.24 | Shirik | I hope it remembers this after install |
| 04:54.54 | dread | Gentoo for me was the biggest pain in the ass to install, I spent 45~ mins trying to figure out *how* to get it to install |
| 04:55.39 | Shirik | oh I know the general idea of how to get it to install |
| 04:55.43 | Shirik | the problem was the wireless card |
| 04:55.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Gentoo taught me one thing and taught it well: RTFM |
| 04:55.53 | ScytheBlade1 | For that I thank it endlessly |
| 04:55.53 | Shirik | actually the problem wasn't the wireless card as much as it was the LAN driver |
| 04:56.05 | ScytheBlade1 | But it's really been going downhill lately (the overall quality) |
| 04:56.15 | Shirik | yeah |
| 04:56.17 | Shirik | it's still on Lua 5.1.1 |
| 04:56.21 | Shirik | silly portage |
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| 04:58.23 | dread | I'm on debian right now, trying to see if I can get more than .95 fps in WoW |
| 04:59.13 | Lopeppeppy | I'm for bed. Shirik, good luck dear. *hug* |
| 04:59.31 | Shirik | night Lopeppeppy |
| 04:59.36 | Shirik | it's all downhill from here |
| 04:59.37 | Shirik | I'm not worried |
| 04:59.39 | Lopeppeppy | Night, ScytheBlade1, night Shirik. |
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| 04:59.52 | Shirik | I just need to make sure to disable the damn r8169 module when configuring the kernel |
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| 05:23.53 | Shirik|Ecole | woot, the live cd has irssi |
| 05:25.11 | batrick | hell ya shirik is manning up |
| 05:25.18 | Shirik|Ecole | omg batrick |
| 05:25.25 | Shirik|Ecole | it took me so long to get this wireless card to work :( |
| 05:25.37 | Shirik|Ecole | and the worst part of it all is that the wireless driver was not to blame, it was my ethernet port screwing everything up |
| 05:27.14 | Shirik|Ecole | don't worry though batrick, I'll still use vista too |
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| 05:40.28 | Thunder_Child | Just a note to tell you that my mailbox is being flooded with mail concerning gas prices and illegal immigrants. To boycott oil companies or not; to provide amnesty to illegal immigrants or not, etc. Since I have become jaded to the various solutions proposed by the Republicans, Democrats, Sierra Club, ACLU, etc., I have elected to solve the problems as they affect me. |
| 05:40.38 | Thunder_Child | My response solves both my gas and illegal immigrant problems.. |
| 05:40.38 | Thunder_Child | I have hired illegal immigrants to push my car. They're plentiful and cheaper than buying gas!!! |
| 05:40.38 | Thunder_Child | Then I pay them in Pesos so they have to go home to spend it. |
| 05:41.02 | batrick | lol |
| 05:43.38 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |
| 05:43.41 | Shirik|Ecole | night clad|sleep |
| 05:43.51 | Shirik|Ecole | so strange that clad|sleep is going to bed around the same time as me >< |
| 05:44.00 | clad|sleep | :P |
| 05:44.13 | NightHawkTheSane | sounds kinky |
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| 06:21.23 | Cairenn | It's dead Jim, you killed it! |
| 06:33.59 | Cairenn | ! |
| 06:34.02 | Cairenn | there's life! |
| 06:34.29 | Cairenn | :) |
| 06:34.38 | Funkeh` | ^^ |
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| 07:14.56 | Thunder_Child | ~scream |
| 07:14.56 | purl | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!!! |
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| 11:10.08 | Greta | How do I make my function take an optional parameter? My attempt was unsuccessful "function test(optional = nil)", how do I do this in lua? |
| 11:10.57 | durcyn | function(optional) dostuffwithargs(optional or nil) end |
| 11:12.17 | Greta | I see, thanks! |
| 11:12.20 | nevcairiel | its usually "optional or default" |
| 11:12.25 | nevcairiel | or nil doesnt make sense |
| 11:12.31 | Greta | Would (optional + 1) or 0 work? |
| 11:12.53 | durcyn | fair enough, the point is that you want your handler code to do the or, not the function declaration |
| 11:13.33 | durcyn | and you can't define args there =P |
| 11:13.49 | durcyn | er variables, need more sleep |
| 11:14.14 | durcyn | Greta: (optional +1) or 0 would error if optional was nil, since you're trying to perform arithmetic on it |
| 11:15.33 | durcyn | something like: optional and optional+1 or 0 |
| 11:15.36 | Greta | ((optional or 0) + 1) |
| 11:15.37 | Greta | ? |
| 11:15.53 | durcyn | that's valid syntax, yes |
| 11:15.57 | Greta | great |
| 11:15.58 | Greta | thanks |
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| 11:33.45 | Greta | Can you do "Frame:SetAttribute("macrotext" ..." in combat? |
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| 11:35.41 | durcyn | no, that'd be cheating ;) |
| 11:36.25 | Greta | Really? Is there no way to change unit of a target frame in combat? |
| 11:37.50 | durcyn | arbitrary macrotext on a secure frame in combat is automation, that's the whole point of the combat lockdown |
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| 11:54.10 | Greta | Is it possible to add macro options? You know those /cast [harm] thingies |
| 11:56.23 | [dRaCo] | dont think so |
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| 13:11.33 | Fisker- | i has icecream |
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| 13:43.32 | Shirik|Ecole | ~date |
| 13:43.33 | purl | It is now 2008.07.13 13:43:33 GMT |
| 13:45.56 | amro | would be fun if date was a factoid |
| 13:46.44 | Gnarfoz | it is |
| 13:46.47 | Gnarfoz | ~date |
| 13:46.48 | purl | It is now 2008.07.13 13:46:48 GMT |
| 13:46.59 | Fisker- | ~stfu Gnarfoz |
| 13:47.00 | wereHamster | purl_, no, date is <reply> today |
| 13:47.01 | Fisker- | >:O |
| 13:47.17 | Gnarfoz | hm no, time is one |
| 13:47.24 | Gnarfoz | ~time |
| 13:47.24 | purl | You cannot understand nature's perfect time cube! (2008.07.13 13:47:24 GMT) |
| 13:47.34 | Fisker- | ~die |
| 13:47.35 | purl | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 13:47.41 | Fisker- | mwuhahha |
| 13:48.33 | Diskmaster | ~fenixdown |
| 13:49.03 | Diskmaster | ~cast Resurrection (Rank 99) |
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| 13:51.44 | Shirik|Ecole | phoenixdown? |
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| 14:08.56 | nevcairiel | Dont irc as root, imho |
| 14:09.01 | Shirik|Ecole | er |
| 14:09.03 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah I know |
| 14:09.07 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm compiling the kernel ... |
| 14:09.30 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 14:09.38 | Guest55698 | cool it works |
| 14:09.50 | nevcairiel | setup auto-nick recover? |
| 14:10.15 | Guest55698 | yeah I was just wondering what that message about "you must log in within 30 seconds or your nick will be forcibly changed" was |
| 14:10.21 | Guest55698 | so I started playing around |
| 14:11.05 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shirik|Ecole] by ChanServ |
| 14:11.20 | Shirik|Ecole | but yeah, I wouldn't irc as root but I'm kinda... well right now I'm installing grub |
| 14:11.32 | Shirik|Ecole | and I don't feel like trying to manage several different sessions at once |
| 14:11.48 | Shirik|Ecole | what's someone going to do, take over my disabled laptop? |
| 14:12.50 | amro | emerge gnome and give you hell |
| 14:14.13 | nevcairiel | you are irc'ing on a comp that you are actually only installing your bootloader on right now? |
| 14:14.15 | nevcairiel | thats sick |
| 14:14.53 | amro | gentoo + irssi |
| 14:15.44 | Shirik|Ecole | nevcairiel :P |
| 14:16.02 | Shirik|Ecole | emerge over wireless B is slow :( |
| 14:16.09 | Shirik|Ecole | I need something to waste my time |
| 14:28.14 | Shirik | well I broke something :P Surprised? |
| 14:29.13 | ckknight | is there an easy way to get someone's raid subgroup? |
| 14:30.08 | amro | Shirik: did it explode? |
| 14:31.20 | Shirik | no |
| 14:31.30 | Shirik | I think it was the splash screen I stuck on grub |
| 14:31.35 | Shirik | I'm going totake that off and see what happens |
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| 14:35.54 | foxlit | GetRaidRosterInfo would work if you have a raidx id |
| 14:36.06 | foxlit | anything else involves some UnitIsUnit iteration |
| 14:37.39 | ckknight | I have a raid id |
| 14:38.26 | foxlit | subgroup = select(3,GetRaidRosterInfo(tonumber(unitid:match("^raid(%d+)$")))) |
| 14:46.03 | ckknight | yep, that's what I'm basically doing now |
| 14:46.12 | ckknight | a little cleaner, mind you |
| 15:12.09 | wereHamster | I have set up Fx3 as the default browser in WinXP, but when I ctrl-click on a link in a Word document, it opens IE. Thanks MS, you did once again a great job |
| 15:19.11 | foxlit | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/community/comics/gallery.html#157 |
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| 15:43.53 | frop | yello |
| 15:44.08 | frop | anyone know a way to make an html page from some raid tracker? |
| 15:44.34 | frop | we're using epgp and would be nice to have a page with raids/loots/points |
| 15:46.03 | frop | using KA_raidtracker now...got some months history there |
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| 16:41.14 | Arrowmaster | use something that doesnt suck? |
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| 16:58.28 | Codex| | Ace2\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:49: in function `GetLibrary' |
| 16:58.28 | Codex| | BuffEnough-1.0\BuffEnough.lua:35: in main chunk |
| 16:58.40 | Codex| | latest version broke itself :( |
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| 17:07.50 | laeg | blizz should try to enforce a 1.0 alliance:horde ratio on servers some how |
| 17:09.20 | Lopeppeppy | Oh gods, that would be hideous, but fun to demand. |
| 17:10.10 | NightHawkTheSane | it'd be neat as a specific type of server, but you'd never be able to force it universally :P |
| 17:10.26 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. |
| 17:10.46 | Tenchworks | bank toons would screw up the number right off bat |
| 17:11.23 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah. if you wanted to do it "fairly", you'd say 1 toon/server/account |
| 17:11.54 | NightHawkTheSane | er, rather, 1 toon/account servers of that type, to be clearer |
| 17:12.33 | NightHawkTheSane | or, perhaps, the counting would only count characters above a certain level, say 20. |
| 17:14.13 | Lopeppeppy | I think you are, darlin'. Nightmares don't bear logical thinking. |
| 17:14.20 | frop | Arrowmaster using HeadCount too...but still, missing something to track epgp |
| 17:14.48 | laeg | i just don't appreciate having to immigrate again because i've discovered my faction is only 12% of the realm pop |
| 17:15.05 | frop | ...btw, there's a new Normal server in EU...it's Blade's Edge |
| 17:15.26 | Arrowmaster | frop: was more referring to why are you using KA_raidtracker instead of the mldkp version of ct_raidtracker |
| 17:15.47 | frop | eheh, don't know really... |
| 17:16.04 | frop | ...wasn't involved before in raid tracking in my guild... |
| 17:16.17 | frop | ...but now, we using epgp...and noone is tracking anything |
| 17:17.00 | frop | HeadCount works nicely...i can export every raid to our forum...but...these reports missing epgp... |
| 17:17.27 | frop | ...so, i'll need to export two things i guess...HeadCount report and epgp standing :P |
| 17:17.28 | laeg | i think i'm going to migrate to frostwolf because it's the fullest with the best choice of arena teams and guilds and it will be easiest to farm ah there |
| 17:17.43 | laeg | nice 50/50 ratio also |
| 17:17.51 | frop | mmmh |
| 17:18.04 | frop | it's not in Cyclone battlegroup :P |
| 17:18.17 | laeg | i don't really understand battlegroups |
| 17:18.20 | laeg | to the wiki! |
| 17:18.43 | Arrowmaster | frop: unless you find something written specificly for epgp youll probably always have to do two exports |
| 17:18.43 | frop | Cyclone should be the "elite" battlegroup for Arena/PvP |
| 17:19.02 | frop | Arrowmaster aye...was looking for something here :P |
| 17:19.16 | laeg | frop: is this because people in one battlegroup don't pvp against people in others? |
| 17:19.21 | frop | a HeadCount's plugin would be sweeet ^^ |
| 17:19.30 | frop | laeg exactly |
| 17:19.51 | frop | you'll face only opponents that are in your battlegroup |
| 17:19.54 | NightHawkTheSane | laeg: the point of a 'battlegroup' is a grouping of servers that pvp amongst themselves. |
| 17:20.03 | Arrowmaster | dkp mods are one of the areas that not many mods exist for since they all differ and its even harder to make everybody happy |
| 17:20.13 | laeg | why can't we all pvp against each other? |
| 17:20.17 | laeg | wouldn't that shorten queue times |
| 17:20.26 | NightHawkTheSane | laeg: probably network/infrastructure issues |
| 17:20.52 | NightHawkTheSane | but ultimately, its because blizzard says so. :P |
| 17:20.52 | laeg | kk |
| 17:20.56 | Arrowmaster | battlegroups are setup by server clusters |
| 17:20.59 | laeg | :D |
| 17:21.03 | frop | Arrowmaster: my problem with epgp is that it's not "transparent" enought imo :P |
| 17:21.17 | laeg | frop: to cyclone it is then |
| 17:21.42 | frop | there's no "track" feature to have an history of point awarded/discounted :P |
| 17:21.54 | frop | laeg :) my 2vs2 is 1500ish |
| 17:22.06 | Arrowmaster | frop: do you do any kinda coding? |
| 17:22.07 | frop | i guess that in another battlegroup i would be at 1700 or so |
| 17:22.24 | frop | Arrowmaster i know some ansi C :) |
| 17:22.31 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 17:22.44 | frop | never done a mod |
| 17:22.45 | laeg | i'm looking at blizzard's realm status page and the census data on warcraftrealms.com |
| 17:22.58 | laeg | how can i confirm a realm's battlegroup? |
| 17:23.35 | frop | http://wow.curse.com/wikia/Battlegroup |
| 17:23.39 | laeg | ty |
| 17:23.48 | Arrowmaster | well i was going to suggest if you really want better features for dkp tracking to write something yourself outside of wow and use the xml outputs from some of the mods |
| 17:24.23 | frop | mmmh |
| 17:24.38 | frop | i should "compare" two epgp snapshot i guess |
| 17:24.53 | frop | best way should be a ingame mod i guess |
| 17:25.45 | frop | http://www.wowwiki.com/Battlegroup |
| 17:25.47 | Arrowmaster | i think theres an epgp module for dkpmon/bidder but its a perty complex system |
| 17:25.50 | frop | better output :) |
| 17:26.01 | frop | Arrowmaster there's |
| 17:26.21 | frop | but i've not understand it rly |
| 17:26.30 | frop | <--- lazy |
| 17:26.48 | laeg | frop: turns out i'm in cyclone atm but the population ratio sux :) |
| 17:26.53 | laeg | (on my server) |
| 17:27.03 | frop | which one? |
| 17:27.29 | laeg | stormscale |
| 17:27.40 | laeg | frop: what are you basing the fact that cyclone is the best for pvp on? |
| 17:27.56 | frop | i've heard so...nothing more :) |
| 17:28.17 | laeg | ahh |
| 17:28.23 | laeg | i need more than hearsay :) |
| 17:29.23 | frop | btw, off to raid...i hope... |
| 17:29.32 | frop | ...always short on signs these days :P |
| 17:29.51 | laeg | hf |
| 17:30.22 | frop | only 25 signs so far :P |
| 17:31.06 | frop | 7 healers...not so bad...maybe ^^ |
| 17:31.12 | laeg | what's a sign? :) |
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| 17:31.39 | Lopeppeppy | People who signed up. |
| 17:32.07 | laeg | kk |
| 17:32.22 | Fisker- | IMPOSSIBLE |
| 17:32.32 | Fisker- | Sixen |
| 17:32.34 | Fisker- | that's madness |
| 17:32.39 | Fisker- | WoW-0.4.3.8568-to-0.4.3.8600-enUS-patch.exe |
| 17:32.44 | Fisker- | build 8600 already :o |
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| 17:39.11 | laeg | the forums are full of people QQing |
| 17:39.43 | Lopeppeppy | They always are. Why do you read them? |
| 17:40.07 | laeg | i'm looking for info in the pvp forum about which is the best battlegroup |
| 17:41.04 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, gods, they're all going to say they are. |
| 17:41.45 | laeg | yes obviously i won't give any weight to comments with no evidence |
| 17:42.11 | Lopeppeppy | There is no evidence, honestly. Statistics can say whatever you want them to say, and the grass is always greener. |
| 17:43.38 | laeg | surely a good place to start would be the battlegroup with most high ranking arena teams in s3 |
| 17:43.50 | laeg | www.realmhistory.net is fried atm |
| 17:44.09 | frop | best one is Cyclone!!! |
| 17:44.18 | frop | ...apart horde pugs in AV.... |
| 17:45.00 | Lopeppeppy | Just because there are high ranking teams doesn't mean any of them are recruiting. Or staying next season. |
| 17:45.50 | laeg | no but it's a good indiction that the best pvp players are on that battlegroup |
| 17:46.11 | frop | ehm, hi rated teams are everywhere i guess |
| 17:46.46 | laeg | there will be one battlegroup with more high rating teams than the rest |
| 17:47.51 | frop | http://www.sk-gaming.com/arena/ |
| 17:48.13 | Lopeppeppy | Just because they cleaned up in a particular battlegroup this season doesn't mean they won't transfer to another one next season. I hear that's commmon. |
| 17:48.42 | laeg | Lopeppeppy: yes it's possible but it's still the best indiction of the best battlegroup |
| 17:49.10 | laeg | frop: ty |
| 17:50.53 | Lopeppeppy | It's the best indication of the best battlegroup last season, no guarantees for this season. :) |
| 17:53.38 | laeg | that's why i won't base it on s4 because it's too early |
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| 18:35.02 | Shirik|Ecole | whee |
| 18:35.10 | Shirik|Ecole | did you all miss me? |
| 18:35.56 | Shirik|Ecole | I take that as a resounding "yes", thanks! |
| 18:38.08 | Fisker- | YES |
| 18:38.09 | Fisker- | I WANT YOU |
| 18:38.25 | Shirik|Ecole | oh my |
| 18:39.00 | Thunder_Child | wb Shirik|Ecole. wb |
| 18:39.50 | Shirik|Ecole | I have suceeded in getting my wireless card to work on this computer. Now I just have to compile x11.... |
| 18:40.12 | Shirik|Ecole | so I expect to be done sometime in the next 6 months |
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| 18:40.39 | Fisker- | good luck |
| 18:40.49 | Fisker- | especially if it's gentoo |
| 18:41.00 | Shirik|Ecole | ~date |
| 18:41.01 | purl | It is now 2008.07.13 18:41:01 GMT |
| 18:48.11 | Shirik | wow |
| 18:48.16 | Shirik | ati supports linux drivers? |
| 18:48.18 | Shirik | since when |
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| 18:48.50 | Guest445 | hello |
| 18:49.00 | Guest445 | is anyone there |
| 18:49.29 | Thunder_Child | canwe help you Guest445? |
| 18:49.36 | Thunder_Child | s/canwe/can we/ |
| 18:49.54 | Guest445 | yeah im playing arathi basin |
| 18:50.00 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, since they are losing so badly to nvidia that they have to extend everywhere |
| 18:50.00 | Guest445 | and theres this map that wont go away |
| 18:50.17 | Guest445 | and ive tried everything the map will not go away |
| 18:50.35 | Shirik | did you try /script WorldFrame:Hide() |
| 18:50.35 | Shirik | ? |
| 18:50.41 | Shirik | don't do that though |
| 18:50.53 | Thunder_Child | and what kind of map is it from? base wow or a mod? |
| 18:51.04 | Guest445 | im pretty sure a mod |
| 18:51.12 | Guest445 | i downloaded some kind of cosmos thing |
| 18:51.17 | Thunder_Child | wow....my sentence didnt make any sense |
| 18:51.29 | Guest445 | and it takes up most of the screen |
| 18:51.51 | Guest445 | its just a map of arathi basin |
| 18:52.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Hit shift+m |
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| 18:53.04 | Guest445 | ill try it brb |
| 18:54.08 | Codex| | if someone could make a mod that detects the word "yall" or "y'all" in gchat or raid, and prints "Yall is not a word", i would be very happy. |
| 18:54.49 | Guest445 | nope |
| 18:54.51 | Guest445 | didnt work |
| 18:55.02 | Guest445 | it brought up and down a mini map |
| 18:55.23 | Guest445 | i deactivated everything in the khaos option and its still there |
| 18:56.04 | Codex| | ~seen kaso |
| 18:56.25 | purl | kaso <n=Kaso@host217-44-68-17.range217-44.btcentralplus.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 18h 38m 38s ago, saying: 'http://www.wowhead.com/?npcs&filter=cl=4:2 ?'. |
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| 18:58.25 | Shirik|Ecole | Codex|: You should be able to do that with a script |
| 18:58.39 | Codex| | AND JUST CLICK IT EVERY SINGLE TIME I SEE YALL? |
| 18:58.41 | Codex| | sorry caps |
| 18:58.43 | Codex| | :O |
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| 18:59.01 | Codex| | cant an addon scan the chat channels for me? |
| 18:59.18 | Codex| | or put my script in a loop that ends when i log out? :O |
| 19:00.11 | Shirik|Ecole | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:00.15 | Shirik|Ecole | no idea if that fits or not |
| 19:00.19 | Shirik|Ecole | also not tested at all |
| 19:01.05 | Shirik|Ecole | you just have to run that when you log in |
| 19:01.07 | Shirik|Ecole | oh wait don't do that |
| 19:01.10 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |
| 19:01.18 | Shirik|Ecole | it'll go into an endless cycle |
| 19:01.23 | Shirik|Ecole | because it'll match your own "yall" |
| 19:01.50 | Shirik|Ecole | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:05.51 | Codex| | let me try that |
| 19:07.07 | Codex| | I run that on login? |
| 19:07.10 | Shirik|Ecole | yup |
| 19:07.21 | Shirik|Ecole | crap |
| 19:07.25 | Shirik|Ecole | put a "then" before SendChatMessage |
| 19:07.35 | Shirik|Ecole | without quotes |
| 19:08.22 | Shirik|Ecole | why is my computer installing voodoo.... |
| 19:08.23 | Shirik|Ecole | what is a voodoo |
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| 19:09.20 | batrick | hehe Shirik |
| 19:09.49 | batrick | I had this annoying kid in my guild everyone gave a hard time. I made one of those that would say "X is gay", everytime he talked in /g |
| 19:09.52 | batrick | he got so raged |
| 19:09.54 | batrick | lol! |
| 19:10.07 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |
| 19:11.04 | Shirik|Ecole | omg, emerging part 129 of 132.... |
| 19:11.12 | Shirik|Ecole | almost done... |
| 19:11.18 | sacarasc | crash! |
| 19:11.24 | Shirik|Ecole | no crash! |
| 19:11.37 | Thunder_Child | ~crash Shirik |
| 19:11.41 | purl | ACTION jams a stick in Shirik's spokes |
| 19:11.47 | Shirik|Ecole | part 132 is going to be like "oh now that we've installed all the dependencies, let's actually build xorg now" |
| 19:11.51 | Thunder_Child | damit, there should be only one Shirik|Ecole |
| 19:11.52 | Shirik|Ecole | and it'll still take another 2 years |
| 19:13.20 | Codex| | ok shirik im trying the script now |
| 19:13.43 | Codex| | nothing happened when i typed Yall into gchat |
| 19:13.44 | Codex| | :( |
| 19:14.15 | sacarasc | Shirik|Ecole: sure it's like that? and not all the different modular parts of xorg itself? |
| 19:14.27 | batrick | Codex|: he made it so it doesn't say anything when you trype it |
| 19:14.29 | batrick | type* |
| 19:14.34 | Codex| | oh |
| 19:14.54 | Codex| | .SendChatMessage("Yall is not a word", "GUILD") does do something tho |
| 19:14.54 | Shirik|Ecole | not a clue sacarasc :P Actually it's already done so |
| 19:15.09 | batrick | have someone else type it :P |
| 19:16.18 | Codex| | it is double spamming |
| 19:16.41 | Shirik|Ecole | then you ran the script twice imo |
| 19:16.42 | batrick | that's odd |
| 19:16.51 | batrick | ya, what shirik said lol |
| 19:16.58 | batrick | reload your UI Codex| |
| 19:17.08 | Codex| | oh lol |
| 19:17.09 | Codex| | :) |
| 19:17.12 | Codex| | works great thanks shirik |
| 19:17.33 | Shirik | :) |
| 19:17.36 | Codex| | whats the mod thjat runs slash commands on statup |
| 19:17.41 | Codex| | old mod called. startup, was it? |
| 19:20.48 | Codex| | shirik : is there an easy way to disable it? |
| 19:21.09 | Codex| | without /rling |
| 19:21.16 | Shirik | depends on if you define /script ReloadUI() easy |
| 19:21.47 | Codex| | takes me about 45 seconds due to too many mods :( |
| 19:21.59 | batrick | Codex|: give the frame a good name, instead of "f" |
| 19:22.00 | Shirik | if you're lucky |
| 19:22.04 | batrick | like, yall |
| 19:22.10 | Shirik | you can do /script f:UnregisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_GUILD") |
| 19:22.14 | batrick | and then you can do, yall:UnregisterAllEvents() |
| 19:22.15 | batrick | i think |
| 19:22.18 | Shirik | but yeah, what batrick said |
| 19:22.26 | wereHamster | Shirik: xorg isn't that big. I remember the days when xfree86 was one big package, and if the tiniest part changed, you'd have to rebuild _everything_: client-side libs, drivers, fonts, the xserver, all the tools etc |
| 19:22.31 | Codex| | all events or guild chat message? |
| 19:22.43 | batrick | well either, |
| 19:22.44 | Shirik | they're identical |
| 19:22.48 | Shirik | since that's the only event registered |
| 19:22.52 | batrick | you only use one event so it doesn't matter |
| 19:23.20 | batrick | any bike buffs around? |
| 19:23.44 | Shirik|Ecole | shimano ftw |
| 19:23.54 | Shirik|Ecole | wait, what kind of bike? |
| 19:23.55 | Codex| | thanks shir, bat |
| 19:24.06 | batrick | Codex|: do you still use spellcraft? |
| 19:24.13 | Shirik|Ecole | like motorcycle bike or mountain bike |
| 19:24.15 | batrick | Shirik|Ecole: I'm looking at some Giant bikes |
| 19:24.24 | batrick | mountain bike |
| 19:24.33 | Codex| | batrick nope |
| 19:24.58 | batrick | I remember you commented on one of my mods, guess it was something else |
| 19:25.20 | Codex| | hmm |
| 19:25.27 | Codex| | what are you the author of? |
| 19:25.29 | Codex| | :) |
| 19:25.48 | batrick | I don't remember what it was called. Right now I author Spellcraft |
| 19:25.49 | batrick | that's it |
| 19:26.01 | Codex| | batbot i just change GUILD in the macro to RAID, correct? |
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| 19:26.33 | batrick | I think RAID is a different event |
| 19:26.42 | batrick | but for SendChatMessage(), that would be correct |
| 19:27.22 | Codex| | what do you mean different event? |
| 19:27.29 | Shirik|Ecole | CHAT_MSG_GUILD -> CHAT_MSG_RAID |
| 19:27.39 | Codex| | so i can use the UnregisterAllEvents() correct? |
| 19:28.19 | batrick | Aluminum frames is better than Steel for bikes correct? |
| 19:28.22 | batrick | Codex|: yes |
| 19:28.49 | batrick | but make sure it's on that frame, doing "UnregisterAllEvents()" will basically render all your mods useless |
| 19:29.07 | Shirik|Ecole | I have no idea batrick :P It's been a long time since I road a bike |
| 19:29.11 | batrick | what I mean: "/run yall:UnregisterAllEvents()" |
| 19:29.12 | Shirik|Ecole | rode* |
| 19:29.48 | Codex| | lol bat |
| 19:29.50 | Codex| | thatd be grusesome |
| 19:29.52 | Codex| | oh batrick!!! |
| 19:29.57 | Codex| | ii remember what my comment was |
| 19:30.05 | Shirik|Ecole | no, gruesome is WorldFrame:Hide() |
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| 19:30.16 | Codex| | I want to be able to use spellcraft's invisibility feature, but without any of its other features |
| 19:30.23 | Codex| | like a standalone InvisibilityGetNaked mod |
| 19:30.36 | batrick | It does that |
| 19:30.42 | batrick | you just disable all the other sub addons |
| 19:30.45 | batrick | using /sc |
| 19:30.59 | Codex| | cool |
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| 19:34.39 | Shirik|Ecole | --> for k,v in pairs(debug) do print(k) end |
| 19:34.39 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole: getupvalueshareupvaluesethookgetmetatablegethooksetmetatablesetlocaltracebacksetfenvgetinfosetupvaluegetlocalgetfenv |
| 19:36.19 | nevcairiel | now thats readable |
| 19:36.21 | nevcairiel | really |
| 19:36.25 | _Yssaril_ | --> for k,v in pairs(debug) do print(k.." ") end |
| 19:36.25 | batbot | _Yssaril_: getupvalue shareupvalue sethook getmetatable gethook setmetatable setlocal traceback setfenv getinfo setupvalue getlocal getfenv |
| 19:36.31 | Shirik|Ecole | oh I could read it |
| 19:36.34 | Shirik|Ecole | you couldn't? |
| 19:36.50 | Shirik|Ecole | irssi put these strange characters before each one :) |
| 19:36.51 | nevcairiel | only because i knew most of the commands |
| 19:36.57 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 19:36.59 | Shirik|Ecole | so it split it up rather well |
| 19:37.15 | krka | --> print"\t" |
| 19:37.15 | batbot | krka: |
| 19:37.17 | batrick | irssi changes a tab into a highlighted capital I |
| 19:37.18 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah that one! |
| 19:37.25 | batrick | it's kinda annoying, i've yet to figure out how to change it |
| 19:37.54 | _Yssaril_ | bat u sure its a I and not a |? |
| 19:38.01 | Shirik|Ecole | it looks like an I to me |
| 19:42.18 | batrick | anyone know how to scroll in top |
| 19:42.25 | batrick | couldn't find it anywhere |
| 19:42.26 | Shirik|Ecole | in? |
| 19:42.33 | batrick | linux command "top" |
| 19:42.38 | Shirik|Ecole | oh |
| 19:42.54 | Shirik|Ecole | >< |
| 19:43.01 | Shirik|Ecole | i.e., shift+, and shift+. |
| 19:43.17 | Shirik|Ecole | omgz something I knew about Linux that batrick didn't know! |
| 19:44.10 | batrick | i don't think that works |
| 19:44.18 | Shirik|Ecole | I think it does |
| 19:44.19 | batrick | it does something |
| 19:44.22 | batrick | but I don't know what |
| 19:44.52 | Shirik|Ecole | oh wait that changes sorting |
| 19:45.01 | batrick | lol nice one! |
| 19:46.22 | batrick | man |
| 19:46.35 | batrick | I almost want to start playing my ally mage again so I can remember what it's like to always win AV |
| 19:50.36 | Fisker- | Shirik |
| 19:50.42 | Fisker- | i am your demise |
| 19:51.10 | Shirik|Ecole | I thought I was doomed to live forever |
| 19:51.21 | Shirik|Ecole | you know you really have to make up your mind here |
| 19:51.21 | Fisker- | oh yes |
| 19:51.24 | Fisker- | i was that black hole |
| 19:51.32 | Fisker- | :( |
| 19:51.49 | Shirik|Ecole | you can't both kill me and not kill me |
| 19:52.04 | Shirik|Ecole | they're mutually exclusive events, and we don't have POSIX recursive mutexes here |
| 19:52.53 | Fisker- | Well i can not kill you and then kill you |
| 19:53.07 | NightHawkTheSane | he could stick you in a poison trapped box. then you'd be both dead and not dead. |
| 19:53.12 | batrick | I don't believe posix mutexes are recursive shirik |
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| 19:54.00 | Codex| | hey shirik: how can i edit our previous script to work only for one character |
| 19:54.05 | Fisker- | oh yes NightHawkTheSane |
| 19:54.12 | Fisker- | You are Fisker's Cat Shirik |
| 19:54.13 | Fisker- | >:O |
| 19:55.39 | Codex| | the current one is /run yall=CreateFrame"FRAME"yall:SetScript("OnEvent",function (self,evt,a1,a2)if a2~=UnitName"PLAYER"and a1:match("[Yy]['`]*[Aa][Ll] [Ll]") then SendChatMessage("Yall is not a word", "PARTY"); end end); yall:RegisterEvent ("CHAT_MSG_PARTY") |
| 19:59.34 | batrick | Codex|: change UnitName"PLAYER" to "nameofplayer" |
| 20:00.14 | Codex| | isnt that unitname"player" the thing that makes sure it isnt me? |
| 20:00.25 | Codex| | or whats stopping my char from triggering it |
| 20:00.35 | batrick | that is |
| 20:00.37 | batrick | but |
| 20:00.50 | batrick | if you only want it to work for one player, then it will only work for one player |
| 20:00.56 | batrick | a2 == "John" |
| 20:01.05 | batrick | will only reply if the message came from John |
| 20:01.11 | batrick | so it excludes you naturally :P |
| 20:01.15 | Codex| | oh i need to change the ~ to a =? |
| 20:01.18 | Codex| | ok |
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| 20:05.24 | Codex| | bat you still there? |
| 20:06.21 | batrick | yes |
| 20:06.25 | batrick | that's what you need to do |
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| 20:12.14 | Shirik|Ecole | don't do that |
| 20:12.18 | Shirik|Ecole | you have to block yourself too |
| 20:13.15 | Shirik|Ecole | :( emerge sqlite failed |
| 20:14.25 | Fisker- | :) |
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| 20:17.50 | Thunder_Child | Shirik|Ecole, you seem to be having rather bad luck |
| 20:18.10 | Shirik|Ecole | actually I fixed that one |
| 20:18.21 | Shirik|Ecole | so back on track... |
| 20:18.26 | Shirik|Ecole | but yeah I kinda want to stab myself right now |
| 20:18.33 | Shirik|Ecole | When it works though! |
| 20:18.36 | Shirik|Ecole | I'll be very happy |
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| 20:44.38 | Codex| | how rare is the new fishing lure hat? |
| 20:44.53 | Codex| | its 1% right? |
| 20:45.05 | Codex| | statistically i should have it by now :( |
| 20:45.43 | Fisker- | got after a month or so |
| 20:45.56 | Fisker- | got it* |
| 20:46.06 | Fisker- | but that's random for you |
| 20:46.11 | Fisker- | you can never be certain :D |
| 20:46.21 | Artmi | What exactly does setAllPoints? |
| 20:46.25 | Fisker- | though Shirik's destruction is certain |
| 20:46.40 | Lopeppeppy | Nah, I have faith in Shirik |
| 20:47.16 | Fisker- | but your destruction is certain |
| 20:47.25 | Fisker- | so when it matters you will be dead |
| 20:47.30 | Shirik | I don't get it: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/community/comics/gallery.html#157 |
| 20:48.13 | Fisker- | why don't you get it? |
| 20:48.19 | Shirik | why can't he go? |
| 20:48.21 | Fisker- | you should've gotten it |
| 20:48.21 | Lopeppeppy | Looks like Hemet slipped a gasket there. |
| 20:48.42 | Fisker- | well he never goes? :o |
| 20:49.05 | Shirik | ah |
| 20:49.05 | Shirik | sorry |
| 20:49.07 | Shirik | wrong comic |
| 20:49.16 | Fisker- | http://kotaku.com/photogallery/firste3peek/1002749518?viewSize=thumb1280x1280 <-man i don't think anyone will miss a flatscreen or two :D |
| 20:49.17 | Lopeppeppy | Oh. Show me a different one then! |
| 20:49.27 | Shirik | I don't know how to get a link |
| 20:49.33 | Shirik | it's page 6, the bottom right one |
| 20:49.35 | Shirik | with the tauren |
| 20:49.44 | Shirik | ah |
| 20:49.44 | Shirik | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/community/comics/gallery.html#148 |
| 20:49.57 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 20:50.14 | foxlit|mac | what the heck is that, though? |
| 20:50.15 | Fisker- | it would appear to be some kind of fencing typical to farmland |
| 20:50.28 | foxlit|mac | and why am I ghosted? |
| 20:50.47 | Fisker- | because of fail |
| 20:50.58 | Fisker- | [21:04:10] * Quits: foxlit (n=foxlit@0x573e6bae.alb2nxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 20:51.02 | Fisker- | peer took your connection again |
| 20:51.09 | Yssaril | Shirik: its a cattle gate where cattle cant pass thru cause the ground consists of a seris of poles with gaps in between as such animals with hoves (taurens) cant pass over them |
| 20:51.18 | Shirik | ah |
| 20:51.49 | Lopeppeppy | Horizontal gate I hear them called. |
| 20:51.59 | foxlit | how does that work, though? |
| 20:52.08 | Corrodias | either they can't or they just won't |
| 20:52.20 | Corrodias | i'm not so sure they're incapable of it |
| 20:52.29 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle_grid |
| 20:52.35 | Lopeppeppy | I think it's a psych thing. they set hoof on it and it feels unstable and they just don't do it. |
| 20:52.37 | foxlit | It may be rather unpleasant due to pressure differences |
| 20:52.48 | Corrodias | it PSYCHES EM OUT MAN |
| 20:53.06 | Shirik | "A cattle grid will allow wheeled vehicles to pass through the entrance, but will contain animals within the enclosure because they will refuse to step on the grid." |
| 20:53.46 | foxlit | "he gaps between them are wide enough for animals legs to fall through, but narrow enough that a vehicle's wheels will not." |
| 20:54.14 | Shirik | ""Virtual" cattle grids can also be used. These look like cattle grids, but are only painted lines on the highway. The light-dark pattern of lines and pavement resembles a true cattle guard to animals. Animals see more intense contrasts of light and dark because their night vision is so much better than ours. Animals see the sharp contrast of the cattle guard on the ground as a false visual cliff; they act as if the dark spots are deeper than |
| 20:54.20 | Shirik | that's kinda cool |
| 20:54.31 | Lopeppeppy | Go ahead, lead a cow upstairs and see what happens. :) |
| 20:54.38 | foxlit | A rather crucial part that isn't immediately clear from that comic :) |
| 20:59.14 | Thunder_Child | somehow i suspect the ammount of wow players are indeed unaware of cattle grids |
| 21:01.29 | Lopeppeppy | A very localized joke. |
| 21:02.37 | Thunder_Child | uhh..wow Thunder_Child, good job...*sigh* "the large ammount*" |
| 21:04.41 | Codex| | batrick you there? |
| 21:04.58 | Fisker- | it appears that i am victorious |
| 21:05.14 | Codex| | Shirik|Ecole our yall script. does it compare EVERY word typed to the word yall? |
| 21:05.19 | Codex| | or how does it work? |
| 21:05.32 | Codex| | im unfamiliar with event driven programming in lua |
| 21:05.55 | Fisker- | matches a string for yall (or certain variations of it) |
| 21:09.09 | Shirik | it looks for a non-case sensitive version of "yall" with an optional version of any number of apostraphes in between y and a |
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| 21:09.49 | cncfanatics | aaah, its good to be back on my own machine |
| 21:09.50 | cncfanatics | hello flks |
| 21:11.20 | durcyn | your own machine needs a new 'o' key |
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| 21:13.32 | Codex| | Shirik|Ecole does it compare everything to it, tho? |
| 21:13.37 | Codex| | when you say "looks for" |
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| 21:14.51 | Shirik | yes, everything |
| 21:14.59 | Shirik | It's not really a regular expression, but it's close enough |
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| 21:15.02 | Shirik | ~wiki regular expression |
| 21:15.50 | Fisker- | good night mr. Shirik |
| 21:16.13 | Shirik | nite nite |
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| 21:19.30 | Codex| | Shirik|Ecole why any number of apostrophes? |
| 21:20.05 | Codex| | ['`]* means infinite amount of anything or only apostrophes? |
| 21:20.22 | Shirik | because it was easier than me looking up the matcher for 0-1 |
| 21:20.24 | wereHamster | which useragent string does googlebot use? I need to read some experts-exchange discussions |
| 21:20.34 | Shirik | wereHamster: (1) lol |
| 21:20.45 | Shirik | (2) I think it's "googlebot" or something like that |
| 21:21.04 | Shirik | Googlebot/1.0 (googlebot@googlebot.com http://googlebot.com/) |
| 21:21.48 | Codex| | ['`]* means infinite amount of anything or only apostrophes? |
| 21:22.06 | Shirik | it means 0 or more of any combination of ` and ' |
| 21:22.14 | durcyn | "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible: Googlebot/2.1: +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" |
| 21:24.04 | Kaso | people who use Grave accent instead of apostrophe character should be shot imo |
| 21:24.10 | Shirik | eh |
| 21:24.16 | Shirik | it was one extra thing for me to type :P |
| 21:24.20 | Shirik | no big deal |
| 21:24.20 | Kaso | heh |
| 21:24.46 | Kaso | also, cant we get over the Mozilla/ver thing nowadays, seriously? why is that still around >< |
| 21:26.42 | Shirik | I don't think IE uses it |
| 21:27.03 | Shirik | ah, yes it does |
| 21:27.03 | Shirik | wtf |
| 21:27.42 | Shirik | I just wish people would stop using useragent fields in general:P They're worthless |
| 21:27.43 | wereHamster | how do I get windows to remember login when mapping a network drive? Even if I check 'remember password', at the next login, I have to reenter it again |
| 21:27.51 | Shirik | people can easily change them, and it shouldn't MATTER what client you're on |
| 21:28.59 | Kaso | Shirik whats frustrating is that IE8 *still* uses mozilla compatible |
| 21:29.25 | Kaso | people are so scared they'll break some 10 year old website that they'll fuck standards |
| 21:29.41 | wereHamster | Shirik: They are useful to deliver specialied webpages to PDAs (like iPhone) |
| 21:30.08 | wereHamster | or is there another mechanism for that? |
| 21:31.03 | Shirik | sure |
| 21:31.07 | cncfanatics | iPhone can surf over the "real" internet |
| 21:31.14 | Shirik | well I mean, there can be |
| 21:31.16 | cncfanatics | and I do think PDAs use special .pda pages or something |
| 21:31.26 | Shirik | the useragent shouldn't matter, you should ask for specific content |
| 21:31.36 | Shirik | not have the website try to figure out wtf it's supposed to be serving |
| 21:32.10 | wereHamster | but sharing bookmarks will then be impossible |
| 21:32.28 | Shirik | sharing bookmarks? |
| 21:32.30 | wereHamster | because you'll have different ones depending on the device who made them |
| 21:32.48 | Corrodias | and no links would work because they don't point to the special pages |
| 21:33.26 | wereHamster | but how would the server decide which page to serve? |
| 21:33.28 | Shirik | no wereHamster, I'm saying there should be a new HTTP request field |
| 21:33.45 | Shirik | I don't disagree at the moment it's impossible, I'm just saying the way the standard is designed is ... well... stupid |
| 21:33.56 | Shirik | it wasn't stupid at the time it was made |
| 21:33.56 | wereHamster | isn't User-Agent a http filed? |
| 21:33.59 | wereHamster | field |
| 21:34.02 | Shirik | but it's not current |
| 21:34.03 | Shirik | yes |
| 21:34.27 | Shirik | I'm just saying that the User-Agent field shouldn't exist, and should be replaced with something more practical for current times. Or at least have a new one added |
| 21:34.46 | Corrodias | wait, what does the user-agent field do, specifically? >_> |
| 21:34.57 | Shirik | supposedly tells the server what client is being used |
| 21:35.03 | Shirik | in reality that's not really reliable |
| 21:35.05 | wereHamster | how would you name the field? |
| 21:35.07 | Corrodias | how is that unsuitable for what you're wanting? |
| 21:35.48 | Corrodias | maybe it's mired in years of convention that won't let it be used properly |
| 21:35.54 | Shirik | Corrodias: Because (1) servers need to know what user agent fields exist and update it for every new client that comes around, and (2) because it is essentially relying on correlation instead of what is actually desired |
| 21:36.07 | Shirik | what if I want pure text on IE instead of fanciness |
| 21:36.22 | Shirik | why can't a field exist that explicitly requests text-optimized pages, etc. |
| 21:37.01 | durcyn | it is, and it's called a url parameter, because you're living in fantasy land if you think web server code should exist to strip formatting out of content |
| 21:37.32 | Shirik | nah that's not what I meant |
| 21:37.43 | Shirik | all I'm saying is that the user-agent field shouldn't be used to determine what content is delivered |
| 21:37.51 | durcyn | why not, when it can be? |
| 21:38.04 | Shirik | hm? |
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| 21:38.30 | durcyn | sure it's arbitrary, but the conditions usually used for user-agent-specific replies rely on known-good user agents |
| 21:38.45 | durcyn | and you can fudge those if you care enough, so what breaks? |
| 21:39.13 | Shirik | you don't consider it a problem that, as a developer, I need to look at every new client that comes out if my site hosts special content? |
| 21:39.32 | Shirik | Instead of having a standard that requests, for example, "mobile"content |
| 21:39.35 | durcyn | uh, now you're getting into rendering quirks |
| 21:39.42 | wereHamster | I agree that the user-agent field is being misused, but that doesn't mean that the general idea is bad |
| 21:40.16 | Corrodias | i never want to have to work on web content |
| 21:40.19 | Corrodias | because of this |
| 21:40.25 | Shirik | there's honestly a lot I don't like about the HTTP protocol :P |
| 21:40.41 | Shirik | but it's one of those things, like ipv4,that no matter how much people try to change it it's going to be hard to break |
| 21:40.45 | durcyn | so, assuming said field is arbitrary, what's the functional difference between "agent-type mobile" and "user-agent safari something | mobile whatever else" |
| 21:40.50 | durcyn | emphasis on functional |
| 21:41.17 | Shirik | durcyn: The fact that the developer has to be aware of all the different user agents that exist, and as new clients come out, update the code as necessary |
| 21:41.35 | wereHamster | iPhone uses this: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/3B48b Safari/419.3 |
| 21:42.00 | Corrodias | what the hell does all that mean. |
| 21:42.01 | Shirik | does it really say "CPU like Mac OS X" |
| 21:42.02 | Shirik | ? |
| 21:42.21 | Codex| | rofl |
| 21:42.27 | Corrodias | Mozilla and Safari? |
| 21:42.27 | Kraps | you guys are familiar with damagemeters, right? twice already, the window got stuck on my mouse pointer. any ideas why? |
| 21:42.35 | wereHamster | Shirik: yes |
| 21:42.39 | durcyn | Kraps: you entered combat while you were dragging it, yes? |
| 21:42.41 | Shirik | that's awesome |
| 21:42.44 | Codex| | Kraps used to happen to me a lot |
| 21:42.48 | Codex| | hasnt happened in ages tho |
| 21:42.49 | Corrodias | Gecko, Mozilla, and Safari, all in the same reply |
| 21:43.05 | Kraps | durcyn: i dunno, could be |
| 21:43.19 | wereHamster | http://note19.com/2007/09/13/iphones-user-agent/ |
| 21:43.25 | durcyn | you either did or you didn't >_< |
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| 21:43.34 | Kraps | lol |
| 21:43.45 | Kraps | i disabled it |
| 21:45.07 | Corrodias | disabled combat? |
| 21:45.12 | Kraps | so it happens when you enter combat while dragging it? |
| 21:45.19 | durcyn | usually |
| 21:46.02 | Kraps | Corrodias: no, disabled damagemeters |
| 21:46.29 | Adys | Maldivia: you around? |
| 21:46.46 | Kraps | so is deep fury better than deep arms for soloing? |
| 21:47.08 | Corrodias | i think it depends on your gear |
| 21:47.50 | Kraps | i dont have any special gear |
| 21:48.47 | Corrodias | i also know little about warriors |
| 21:48.59 | Codex| | any way to get BigBrother to not spam when the MT breaks sheep? |
| 21:50.20 | Kraps | its pretty amazing that theres no threat meter by default |
| 21:50.50 | durcyn | Codex|: it doesn't make any bones about who actually did it, no. pro tip though: there's no combat log event when the break is a melee swing =( |
| 21:51.18 | Codex| | it says who broke it with what spell tho |
| 21:51.26 | Codex| | cant it detect if that who was the mt |
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| 21:51.40 | Kraps | the things that weaponsmiths make, are they better than regular drops? |
| 21:51.48 | durcyn | the cc break shit has no place in bb to start with in my not so humble opinion |
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| 21:52.21 | durcyn | but yes, if you wanted to write some crappy code to look at ora2/ctra mt list and/or blizzard mt unit, then it's possible |
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| 21:55.08 | Codex| | any way to detect when you go to delete an item and you move it over "empty" space but there is some sort of invisible frame there what it is? |
| 21:55.15 | Codex| | i seem to have very little open space |
| 21:56.45 | NightHawkTheSane | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:56.54 | Codex| | whats /dump print to? |
| 21:57.12 | kd3 | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME |
| 21:57.24 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, but it's provided by addons, not the default game |
| 21:57.34 | NightHawkTheSane | so you need something like DevTools, or probably some ace mod installed to use it |
| 21:58.11 | Codex| | its workin for me, but i dont have devtools on |
| 21:58.21 | Codex| | must be ace |
| 21:58.24 | NightHawkTheSane | I think some core ace libraries provide it |
| 21:58.32 | NightHawkTheSane | probably aceconsole, or whatever |
| 21:58.58 | durcyn | it's provided by DevTools and Rock only |
| 21:59.14 | Codex| | i dont have devtools, and never heard of rock, but /dump works :P |
| 21:59.26 | Codex| | what does rock do? |
| 21:59.32 | NightHawkTheSane | rock is a framework, like ace |
| 21:59.37 | durcyn | if you're using pitbull, cowtip, fubar, or chinchilla, you've got rock. |
| 21:59.45 | Codex| | fubar :) |
| 21:59.50 | durcyn | whether that's a good or a bad thing is left as an exercise for the reader |
| 21:59.54 | Codex| | oh rock doesnt have to be downloaded seperately? |
| 22:00.07 | durcyn | it's a set of libraries, so no. |
| 22:02.49 | kd3 | sixen; there weren't any UI changes in the last ptr patch |
| 22:06.04 | frop | mmmh, what's the hit cap for survival hunters? |
| 22:06.21 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Hit#Hunters |
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| 22:08.07 | frop | 95 :) |
| 22:08.15 | Codex| | Shirik|Ecole would slkfjdsjlfkjYALLslkdfjlkdslkf set off the macro? |
| 22:08.44 | batrick | yes |
| 22:08.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Codex|: one way to find out |
| 22:08.57 | Codex| | so i should add [ ] to the front and [ ] to the end? |
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| 22:11.10 | batrick | Codex|: use (" "..a.." "):find"%A[yY]['`]*[aA][lL]+%A" |
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| 22:11.39 | Codex| | eek what the heck does that do |
| 22:11.54 | batrick | only matches the "word" yall |
| 22:12.13 | batrick | !lua a = "lkjdfYaLLalkjdf" (" "..a.." "):find"%A[yY]['`]*[aA][lL]+%A" |
| 22:12.17 | batrick | !lua a = "lkjdfYaLLalkjdf" return (" "..a.." "):find"%A[yY]['`]*[aA][lL]+%A" |
| 22:12.18 | batbot | batrick: > nil |
| 22:12.23 | batrick | !lua a = "lkjdf YaLL alkjdf" return (" "..a.." "):find"%A[yY]['`]*[aA][lL]+%A" |
| 22:12.24 | batbot | batrick: > 7, 12 |
| 22:14.11 | amro | regexes make me want to work in arts |
| 22:14.18 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 22:18.29 | laeg | our gold mine has collapsed! |
| 22:18.58 | Codex| | zub zub |
| 22:19.25 | laeg | our forces are under attack! |
| 22:19.37 | laeg | war3 horde just pwned me |
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| 23:02.47 | Codex| | if a rank isnt provided, will the highest rank of a spell be chosen? |
| 23:02.57 | Codex| | trying to make a rightclick is self-buff, left click isnt |
| 23:03.33 | Codex| | what i have so far: |
| 23:03.36 | Codex| | ./cast [btn:2] [target=player] Arcane Intellect, [target=target] Arcane Intellect |
| 23:03.54 | Codex| | eek blizzard api blocked it |
| 23:04.40 | Codex| | oh i need the rank |
| 23:07.47 | Arrowmaster | no you dont |
| 23:08.13 | Arrowmaster | and its /cast [btn:2,target=player][] Arcane Intellect |
| 23:09.49 | Codex| | whats the empty [] for? |
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| 23:10.34 | Arrowmaster | its the same as [target=target] |
| 23:13.13 | Codex| | oh |
| 23:13.34 | Codex| | hey whats the old name of that mod, that if youve whispered someone in the who frame, their name turns blue so you dont whisper them again/? |
| 23:19.58 | Sixen | Did you guys hear of the kid that bought 1million WoW Gold for $40k? |
| 23:20.23 | Sixen | http://www.wowgold.net/2008/07/12/us-gamer-becomes-first-world-of-warcraft-millionaire/ |
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| 23:23.09 | JoshBorke | i thought that wasn't possible |
| 23:23.47 | kd3 | 5 players, sure |
| 23:23.54 | kd3 | 210k*5 > 1m |
| 23:24.21 | kd3 | and something tells me that account will be getting banned 3 seconds after the transaction takes place |
| 23:26.09 | JoshBorke | really? i never would have guessed that |
| 23:26.20 | Artmi | Sixen,that's just insane |
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| 23:29.18 | Sixen | Yeah :X |
| 23:29.33 | Sixen | I give the account until Tuesday to be banned. |
| 23:30.01 | Artmi | Sixen, banned or not, 40$k could have been used to something so much better |
| 23:30.10 | Sixen | Exactly... |
| 23:30.20 | Artmi | But yeah, he'll probably be banned real soon |
| 23:30.29 | Artmi | I mean, that amount of incoming gold , in such a short amount of time |
| 23:30.33 | Artmi | through trade or in-game mail |
| 23:30.36 | Sixen | My friends ask me, You could have bought a car, a boat or put down a deposit on a house - why waste all that money on a game?. I dont like cars, I get sea-sick and I already own a couple of properties of my own., Jake contends. I find less sense in blowing $40,000 on a BMW - at least WoW Gold retains its value. |
| 23:30.37 | Artmi | will be a huge record on their log file |
| 23:30.47 | Artmi | they probably also has some kind of filter, when higher gold gets transmitted betwen people |
| 23:30.56 | Sixen | There's not even a need to have that much gold. Ever. |
| 23:31.05 | Artmi | Nope, i mean, if he wants gear |
| 23:31.16 | Artmi | most guilds wills ell t6 parts for 500-1000g ap iece probably |
| 23:31.19 | Artmi | and those kind of gold is farmable |
| 23:31.33 | Codex| | "at least WoW Gold retains its value" |
| 23:31.36 | Codex| | errr... |
| 23:31.48 | Artmi | Codex|, haha yeah, noticed that comment, it doesn't really retain it's value |
| 23:31.52 | Artmi | when there are gold farming companies :P |
| 23:32.00 | Artmi | Gold actually gets waaay less value, because of them |
| 23:32.47 | Artmi | I can only imagine how he will feel when getting banned, having blown $40k on a game, then losing it close to intantly :P |
| 23:33.55 | Artmi | I mean, in sweden $40k divided on 12 months, is more then most peoples yearly income(with decent jobs) |
| 23:34.22 | Sixen | =O |
| 23:34.46 | Artmi | That's 20 000 SEK(per month), usual salary for a decent paying job is around 16 000 SEK (per month, after taxes) |
| 23:34.56 | Artmi | good paying jobs will get you 20-25 000 per month |
| 23:35.29 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7903865822 -- I really hope this gem has already been talked about and not over looked. <3 |
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| 23:36.43 | Artmi | haha |
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| 23:38.35 | Guest263 | can anyone tell me how to completely remove cosmos? |
| 23:38.43 | foxlit | http://eu.blizzard.com/store/browse.xml?f=c:2 is so disappointing |
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| 23:39.20 | |Jelly| | ~hug Peppy |
| 23:39.20 | purl | ACTION hugs Peppy |
| 23:39.22 | kd3 | guest; c:\program files\world of warcraft\interface\addons\ |
| 23:39.30 | kd3 | look for the cosmos folder (or folders) and delete them |
| 23:39.44 | Guest263 | thank you greatly |
| 23:40.28 | Artmi | Is cosmos still alive? haven't used it in many years :P |
| 23:40.56 | Artmi | Think it was the first ui i ever used actually |
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| 23:44.07 | foxlit | @#$@#$@# |
| 23:44.19 | foxlit | The blizzard downloader still spams console with its error messages |
| 23:46.35 | Arrowmaster | blizzard downloader? |
| 23:46.41 | Arrowmaster | oh osx? |
| 23:46.49 | foxlit | their BT/HTTP client |
| 23:48.10 | kd3 | hell, the windows client does it in wine. checking the net state every 10th of a second isn't all that necessary |
| 23:48.16 | kd3 | need to bitch at the TS guys some more about that |
| 23:49.34 | foxlit | http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/5931/activitymonitor001zv0.png |
| 23:50.05 | foxlit | gogo whine :) |
| 23:54.04 | Thunder_Child | |Jelly|, that link hurts my mind |
| 23:54.27 | |Jelly| | ~hug TC |
| 23:54.28 | purl | ACTION hugs TC |
| 23:54.56 | Thunder_Child | ty |Jelly| |
| 23:55.39 | Thunder_Child | i guess i should not be surprised at how few people understand what they are playing on. I mean, how many people really know the basics of their car? |
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| 23:57.58 | |Jelly| | I do! |
| 23:58.26 | foxlit | So someone used a wrong term for an essentially correct concept |
| 23:58.49 | foxlit | news at 11, drama at 12! |
| 23:59.36 | foxlit | Could someone bump http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=7611E9864C04F25393433B5BBFADD385.app11_07?topicId=5539956440&sid=1 with a message akin to "This is still the case."? |
