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| 01:23.17 | abug | is this a good place to ask a stupid question about the wowinterface svn repository |
| 01:25.09 | Corrodias | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 01:25.19 | Corrodias | actually yes |
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| 01:25.29 | abug | oh... |
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| 01:26.13 | abug | how do I add a revision string that gets updated each time I commit? |
| 01:26.43 | abug | doing manual updates is painful |
| 01:27.48 | abug | I've tried putting a string in the lua file I'm updatting: "$Revision: 11 $" |
| 01:27.50 | MentalPower | $Id$ or $Revision$ |
| 01:27.56 | abug | but it doesn't auto increment |
| 01:28.08 | MentalPower | and you need to add those to the svn:keywords property |
| 01:28.50 | abug | so it's done by the client prior to commiting? |
| 01:29.39 | MentalPower | also note that it will only auto-increase that specific changed file |
| 01:30.33 | abug | ah thank you |
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| 02:06.49 | kd3 | the forums being slow? |
| 02:07.14 | Tem | ~fear of complexity |
| 02:07.14 | purl | FEAR OF COMPLEXITY: That which causes you to implement as little as possible, as simplicity is easier to fix. As well, that which prevents feature creep due to the environmental damage it causes. Hence, the fourth great virtue of a programmer. |
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| 02:59.00 | [Liquidor] | Guys... I need this fast... What is the fastest way to send all /g messages to /s with [player] as prefix? |
| 03:00.55 | cogwheel | respond to chat event, sendchatmessage? |
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| 03:10.08 | Shirik | see, this is what I hate about my editor |
| 03:10.14 | Shirik | I hit the "compile" button and get this |
| 03:10.34 | Shirik | warning: and `size_t erau::PacketProcessor::tail'sercomPacketProcessor.hline 72 |
| 03:10.38 | Shirik | er |
| 03:10.42 | Shirik | stupid irc client.... |
| 03:11.05 | Shirik | warning: and `size_t erau::PacketProcessor::tail' sercom PacketProcessor.h line 72 |
| 03:11.09 | Shirik | what a great warning |
| 03:11.10 | Corrodias | it starts with and? jeez |
| 03:11.34 | Shirik | my editor has this awesome habit of reading the errors in a very strange order, so the other half of this warning message is actually 4 messages down |
| 03:12.00 | Shirik | here's what it says, in the order my editor gives: |
| 03:12.50 | Corrodias | haha |
| 03:13.08 | Shirik | warning: and `size_t erau::PacketProcessor::tail' will be reordered to match declaration order. <insert 2 other warnings here> member initializers for `size_t erau::PacketProcessor::procHead' |
| 03:14.33 | Shirik | here, a screenshot may describe it better |
| 03:15.00 | Shirik | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/0a8b8399f16bcf4136f7eefff04a3d1c.jpg |
| 03:15.03 | Shirik | ~stab eclipse |
| 03:15.04 | purl | ACTION runs at eclipse with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
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| 03:17.24 | Shirik | oh wow, I just figured out why it reorders them like that |
| 03:17.37 | |Jelly| | cause you took the purple pull? |
| 03:17.41 | |Jelly| | s/pull/pill/ |
| 03:17.44 | Shirik | it's in alphabetical order.... |
| 03:17.57 | Shirik | wtf editor orders errors in alphabetical order |
| 03:18.32 | kd3 | o_O; |
| 03:18.41 | |Jelly| | ~hug Shirik |
| 03:18.41 | purl | ACTION hugs Shirik |
| 03:23.37 | cogwheel | ~hug Cairenn |
| 03:23.38 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Cairenn |
| 03:27.42 | Shirik | sure |
| 03:27.49 | Shirik | cogwheel gets a hug, but all I get is a "=/" |
| 03:28.52 | Cairenn | :) |
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| 03:41.35 | breser | ~wowcompare |
| 03:41.48 | breser | Bahh what the heck is the link to that site. |
| 03:42.00 | Gnarfoz | www.wowcompares.com ? |
| 03:42.04 | Gnarfoz | it's quite simple, really |
| 03:42.15 | breser | I was trying the singular. :( |
| 03:42.28 | Gnarfoz | you only want one? :p |
| 03:42.50 | breser | Well it's a verb. You don't compares something. You compare something. |
| 03:43.11 | breser | comparisons would make sense for plural. |
| 03:43.15 | breser | Because that's the noun. |
| 03:43.46 | Gnarfoz | it's a noun, as you just said |
| 03:43.46 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 03:43.54 | Gnarfoz | you didn't want to compare wow :D |
| 03:45.21 | Corrodias | i did. |
| 03:45.31 | breser | It's a noun mostly. There are only a handful of times people use it as a noun. E.G. Her beauty is beyond compare. |
| 03:45.50 | breser | The noun with the exception of constructs like I just gave is always comparison. |
| 03:46.10 | Gnarfoz | O_O |
| 03:46.14 | Gnarfoz | what are you talking about xD |
| 03:46.26 | Gnarfoz | the page is named after the plural of 'comparisons' :D |
| 03:46.31 | Gnarfoz | err comparison :) |
| 03:46.39 | Gnarfoz | that's the only thing I said |
| 03:46.49 | Shirik | a "compare" is another name for a "difference" |
| 03:46.51 | Shirik | aka diff |
| 03:48.51 | Shirik | and as you can see, that site easily supports diffs: http://wowcompares.com/0428278/FrameXML/ActionButton.lua?diff=2418124 |
| 03:49.11 | breser | That's not the point. |
| 03:49.48 | Shirik | I kinda think it is the point |
| 03:49.53 | cog|away | ~hug Shirik |
| 03:49.54 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Shirik |
| 03:50.04 | Shirik | wowcompares. compares of wow |
| 03:50.08 | breser | compare = almost always a verb, with only a handful of cases where it's used as a noun. When it is used as a noun it's always singular. |
| 03:50.15 | breser | compares is not a ever a noun. |
| 03:50.16 | Shirik | I believe I just proved you wrong |
| 03:50.22 | Corrodias | i require some compares. |
| 03:50.23 | Shirik | (23:46:47) (@Shirik) a "compare" is another name for a "difference" |
| 03:50.23 | Shirik | (23:46:49) (@Shirik) aka diff |
| 03:50.37 | Shirik | I can ask for diffs of something |
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| 03:50.44 | Shirik | Likewise, I can ask for compares of something and I'm asking for the same thing |
| 03:50.54 | breser | The name of a website is using it as a noun not a verb. |
| 03:51.00 | Shirik | yes, it is |
| 03:51.09 | breser | compares = verb |
| 03:51.13 | Shirik | compares is also a noun |
| 03:51.15 | breser | Joe compares the two items. |
| 03:51.18 | Shirik | specifically, the plural of compare |
| 03:51.22 | breser | No it's not. |
| 03:51.26 | Shirik | yes... it is. |
| 03:51.28 | cog|away | yes it is |
| 03:51.50 | cog|away | words get their meaning from how people use them |
| 03:51.55 | cog|away | not the other way around |
| 03:51.56 | Shirik | a compare is a special type of file created for the purpose of providing an automated patch |
| 03:52.10 | Shirik | if I give you multiple patches, I have given you multiple compares |
| 03:52.17 | cog|away | and when it comes to jargon anything goes. eventually the jargon becomes accepted more generally |
| 03:52.19 | Shirik | or multiple diffs, which is my preferred term, but they're both valid |
| 03:52.41 | breser | That's a diff. I've worked on VCS for 7 years. I've never ever heard someone use the word compare to describe a diff. Delta, diff, patch, yes. Compare no. |
| 03:52.54 | Shirik | Whether or not you've heard of it makes it no less valid |
| 03:52.55 | cog|away | that you haven't heard it means nothing |
| 03:53.17 | Shirik | I had never heard of Lua before WoW |
| 03:53.21 | Shirik | does that mean it wasn't a language? |
| 03:53.43 | |Jelly| | pretty much |
| 03:53.47 | Shirik | Strangely enough Lua is now my preferred scripting language... |
| 03:53.50 | breser | Find me a single example of the use of the word compares as a noun besides the website wowcompares.com |
| 03:53.56 | cog|away | look up "compare" in the dictionary |
| 03:54.02 | cog|away | m-w.com for instance |
| 03:54.06 | cog|away | compare 1, verb |
| 03:54.09 | cog|away | compare 2, noun |
| 03:54.23 | breser | cog|away: The noun is ALWAYS singular. |
| 03:54.59 | breser | I'm not trolling. I just disagree. |
| 03:55.14 | cog|away | you can disagree all you want, doesn't make you right |
| 03:55.15 | cog|away | :P |
| 03:55.23 | breser | If I was trolling I'd be here deliberately trying to start an argument. I honestly had trouble finding the site because I looked for wowcompare.com and it wasn't there. |
| 03:55.33 | cog|away | people used to disagree that the world is round |
| 03:56.17 | breser | And m-w.com doesn't even list compare as a noun: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/compare |
| 03:56.34 | cog|away | ... |
| 03:56.39 | cog|away | it's in the list box on that page |
| 03:56.47 | cog|away | need screenie? |
| 03:57.02 | |Jelly| | Main Entry: |
| 03:57.04 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:57.05 | |Jelly| | Function: |
| 03:57.07 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:57.08 | |Jelly| | Date: |
| 03:57.10 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:57.13 | |Jelly| | : the possibility of comparing <beauty beyond compare>; also : something with which to be compared <a city without compare> |
| 03:57.21 | breser | Ahh ok I see it now. That's just a really odd design for that site. |
| 03:57.31 | |Jelly| | I DISAGREE |
| 03:57.41 | breser | Still it supports what I'm saying. The noun use is always signular. |
| 03:58.09 | cog|away | again, in this context it's more jargon than anything |
| 03:58.20 | Shirik | hm, even wikipedia has a page that uses the term "compares" |
| 03:58.35 | ScytheBlade1 | "wow, I have 19 health left, this seems like a bad idea" |
| 03:58.36 | Shirik | "Yes (File Compares: UTF8, UTF16, MBCS, SJIS, over 150 file encoding and character set formats," |
| 03:58.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Mmm, mage raid leads |
| 03:58.44 | Shirik | though that seems more of an advertisement than anything |
| 03:59.42 | Shirik | so Nechckn is trying to hit on me |
| 04:00.00 | cog|away | here's a non wowcompares example of usage as a noun |
| 04:00.01 | cog|away | http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_How_do_I_create_a_compare_editor%3F |
| 04:01.18 | breser | People use all sorts of language that isn't really correct. I just think the name is wrong. wowcompare.com or wowdiffs.com or wowcomparisions.com would all be more correct IMHO. I'll drop it but I stand by saying the name is wrong. |
| 04:02.02 | cog|away | "wrong" by whose definition though? |
| 04:02.47 | |Jelly| | From now on, "the" means "but" and "he" means "peanut butter"! |
| 04:02.47 | cog|away | obviously enough of us understand the given usage of the word, so saying it's "wrong" is meaningless |
| 04:04.49 | cog|away | when does a newly coined term become not wrong? how is a newly-coined term substantially different from a new use of an existing word? |
| 04:04.59 | cog|away | is it "wrong" to use google as a verb? |
| 04:05.14 | Shirik | so |Jelly|, how do you exclaim "But he needs the peanut butter!" |
| 04:05.56 | breser | Undresatnidng deeosn't iplmy croectenss thuogh. |
| 04:06.15 | breser | (deliberately typed wrong to make a point) |
| 04:06.25 | cog|away | but you still haven't defined correctness in the first place :P |
| 04:06.41 | |Jelly| | The peanut butter needs but he! |
| 04:06.44 | cog|away | by what measure do you determine the usage of a word to be correct? |
| 04:06.58 | breser | Well for a general purpose word like compare or comparision I'd say a dictionary. |
| 04:07.07 | breser | That's by no means a new word. |
| 04:07.23 | cog|away | no, it's a new meaning for an existing word used in a particular context |
| 04:07.25 | breser | And it's usage as a technical term doesn't divert from its long established meaning. |
| 04:07.32 | cog|away | no one says it does |
| 04:08.11 | cog|away | using at as a technical term in a technical context... seems like you just agreed it's not wrong :P |
| 04:08.30 | breser | No I'm saying the technical context doesn't make it right. :) |
| 04:08.40 | cog|away | but that's exactly what it does |
| 04:08.40 | breser | Because it's not a new usage at all. |
| 04:08.50 | cog|away | well if it's not a new usage then it's not wrong, is it? |
| 04:09.12 | Shirik | When we first made computers able to make decisions, we invented something called a "jump" to let us go to another section of code |
| 04:09.22 | Shirik | who said that was what it should be called? Obviously the computer isn't hopping around |
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| 04:10.19 | Shirik | It was just coined and people agreed to it |
| 04:10.25 | Shirik | and if people will use it, then it's valid language |
| 04:10.32 | cog|away | if presence in a dictionary is the measure of a word's correctness, then we'd never get new words. or are you saying we should invent brand new words for every single idea? |
| 04:10.41 | |Jelly| | Is there an asson that tracks like ... every monetary transaction you make and logs it? |
| 04:10.54 | |Jelly| | s/asson/addon/ |
| 04:10.55 | Shirik | that's the only definition of a language: a commonly agreed upon protocol to communicate ideas |
| 04:11.09 | ckknight | cog|away: I think jump is a perfectly cromulent word |
| 04:11.19 | Shirik | Then there's people like |Jelly| that break said protocol and confuse us when trying to figure out wtf an "asson" is |
| 04:11.38 | |Jelly| | I love you, Shirik. Come cuddle? |
| 04:11.51 | Shirik | and then there's people like ckknight that use the most esoteric portions of a protocol to confuse the lowbies like me |
| 04:11.55 | Shirik | ~dict cromulent |
| 04:12.01 | Shirik | and purl |
| 04:12.17 | Shirik | oh I get it now :( |
| 04:12.18 | Shirik | I'm slow |
| 04:12.20 | ckknight | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Cromulent |
| 04:13.31 | Shirik | that definition confused the hell out of me |
| 04:13.33 | cog|away | breser: http://www.guiffy.com/shots.html |
| 04:14.26 | breser | Not a single use of "compares" on that page. |
| 04:14.42 | cog|away | it uses "compare" as a noun |
| 04:15.06 | cog|away | there's no reason to exclude the possibility of a plural of the same meaning |
| 04:15.09 | Shirik | almost everywhere it uses it as a noun |
| 04:15.38 | Shirik | in fact, it even makes reference to "compare files" |
| 04:15.40 | Shirik | i.e., diff files |
| 04:15.58 | Shirik | "Merges can be be performed with the 2 compare files interactively, or as a 3-way auto merge with the 3rd (parent) file specified." |
| 04:16.45 | cog|away | compares is a logical shortening of compare files, just like diffs is a logical shortening of diff files |
| 04:17.09 | breser | I'm sure if I look hard enough I can find people misusing their, there, it's and its. I still think it's wrong. I don't think you guys are going to convince me so who's trolling who now? |
| 04:17.12 | cog|away | and it's more generic even |
| 04:17.37 | Shirik | So basically what you're saying is that because people make mistakes, this must be a mistake |
| 04:18.22 | breser | I think it's a mistake yes. I see your point, I still think it's wrong. You guys think it's fine. Good for you guys. We're going in circles now. I'm dropping it. |
| 04:20.21 | breser | purl, wowcompare is http://wowcompares.com |
| 04:20.21 | purl | okay, breser |
| 04:20.29 | breser | purl, wowcompares is http://wowcompares.com |
| 04:20.30 | purl | breser: okay |
| 04:22.31 | Thunder_Child | huh, they have a max payne movie trailer |
| 04:24.16 | Shirik | line 99: Error: At this point in file |
| 04:24.21 | Shirik | ... I hate this IDE so much T_T |
| 04:24.39 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, so use another? |
| 04:24.42 | Shirik | I can't! |
| 04:24.50 | Thunder_Child | :( |
| 04:25.01 | Shirik | QNX essentially forces you to use this while debugging because it's the only way to cleanly upload and run your program |
| 04:25.06 | Shirik | without actually being on the device itself |
| 04:25.28 | Thunder_Child | and nothing else has a plugin for it? |
| 04:25.56 | Shirik | I haven't really looked, but I doubt it |
| 04:26.22 | Shirik | because it seems everyone in the world loves eclipse, except me |
| 04:26.31 | Shirik | why write a plugin when they're already using god's IDE! |
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| 04:27.42 | Thunder_Child | i thought you only done like eclipse because of vista |
| 04:27.47 | Thunder_Child | s/done/dont/ |
| 04:30.27 | Shirik | oh no I always hated vista |
| 04:30.36 | Shirik | s/vista/eclipse/ |
| 04:30.44 | Shirik | I just hate it MORE now that I realize it fails miserably on vista |
| 04:31.06 | Thunder_Child | l2likeit |
| 04:40.40 | Shirik | am I reading this wrong, or does this say that the function name AND the structure name is "sigaction": http://www.qnx.com/developers/docs/6.3.0SP3/neutrino/lib_ref/s/sigaction.html |
| 04:42.56 | Corrodias | i think it does |
| 04:43.01 | Corrodias | which should be impossible |
| 04:43.36 | Shirik | I agree... |
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| 04:47.14 | Thunder_Child | nothing is impossible if enough stupidity is envolved |
| 04:47.43 | breser | Probably a typo he probably means sigaction_t |
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| 04:48.40 | breser | Yikes the libc man page is written like that too. |
| 04:48.54 | Shirik | nope, not a typo |
| 04:49.03 | Shirik | it compiles correctly when I explicitly write out "struct sigaction" for the variable |
| 04:49.44 | breser | int sigaction(int, const struct sigaction * __restrict, struct sigaction * __restrict); |
| 04:50.05 | breser | From the actual header file. Must be some obscure feature of C that I've forgotten. |
| 04:50.07 | Corrodias | -.- |
| 04:50.57 | breser | That's from the OSX /usr/include/signal.h wonder what the GNU one looks like. |
| 04:51.57 | breser | Similar: extern int sigaction (int __sig, __const struct sigaction *__restrict __act, struct sigaction *__restrict __oact) __THROW; |
| 04:53.38 | sylvanaar | what an odd thing to do to avoid decorating one of the symbol names |
| 04:54.08 | Shirik | ok, now I KNOW I'm going crazy.... |
| 04:54.33 | breser | Can I quote you on that and use it against you the next time we disagree? |
| 04:54.48 | Shirik | I should not be coding after spending 8 hours on flights.... |
| 04:55.41 | Shirik | Anyone see why I'd get "'max' undeclared" on the highlighted line? http://wowuidev.pastey.net/91185 |
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| 04:56.25 | breser | Becuase you didn't put int max = 0 before code. |
| 04:56.35 | Shirik | this is C++, that's legal |
| 04:56.35 | breser | int max = 0 should be before FD_ZERO(&set) |
| 04:56.44 | breser | Ohh well then. |
| 04:56.48 | breser | No clue. |
| 04:57.10 | breser | Didn't notice the std::cout stuff so I assumed C. |
| 04:57.19 | Shirik | :) |
| 04:57.30 | Shirik | it's very C |
| 04:57.33 | Shirik | but it's in C++ :P |
| 04:57.49 | Shirik | oh I know why |
| 04:57.58 | Shirik | it's that damn pthread cleanup routine |
| 04:58.08 | Shirik | I think those create their own scope |
| 04:59.12 | sylvanaar | what are they macros? |
| 04:59.39 | breser | I don't remember them doing anything like that. |
| 05:00.26 | breser | Ahh yup you're write. |
| 05:00.28 | breser | They're macros. |
| 05:00.41 | breser | push starts with a { and pop ends with } |
| 05:00.48 | sylvanaar | they add a bracket and a goto or something? |
| 05:00.55 | sylvanaar | or a label i mean |
| 05:00.56 | breser | So see I was right while being wrong. :P |
| 05:01.30 | breser | sylvanaar: Just brackets. |
| 05:01.34 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 05:02.02 | breser | They do that because pop has to run in the same scope. |
| 05:02.04 | sylvanaar | i suppose that would be useful in C |
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| 05:02.21 | breser | Only way to guarantee it would be to make their own brackets. |
| 05:02.56 | breser | And in C they have to since they want to define a variable. |
| 05:03.03 | sylvanaar | right |
| 05:03.33 | breser | Probably could get away without that in C++ but he's actually using C API's there. |
| 05:04.09 | Shirik | even if you could get away with it in C++, I wouldn't advise it just because of the asymmetry in creating and freeing your variables |
| 05:04.19 | Shirik | it makes sense |
| 05:04.22 | Shirik | I just didn't think about it |
| 05:04.38 | sylvanaar | what |
| 05:04.55 | Shirik | there we go, now how long do you think it's going to take to commit all these changes |
| 05:05.01 | Shirik | 8 hours of writing code on the plane |
| 05:06.15 | Shirik | Yet another reason I hate eclipse...... Visual studio would normalize this crap |
| 05:06.21 | Shirik | Error: While preparing 'C:\Users\mpdelbuono\Documents\Code\sec09\sercom\common.mk' for commit |
| 05:06.21 | Shirik | Error: Inconsistent line ending style |
| 05:06.30 | Shirik | I didn't even make that file, that's a wizard-created file! |
| 05:06.35 | Corrodias | hahaha |
| 05:06.36 | breser | I'll keep my vim. |
| 05:07.00 | sylvanaar | what scc are you using? |
| 05:07.05 | breser | But then I don't do Windows anymore... |
| 05:07.29 | Shirik | scc? |
| 05:07.50 | sylvanaar | source code control |
| 05:07.55 | Shirik | svn |
| 05:08.01 | sylvanaar | subversive? |
| 05:08.10 | Shirik | subclipse, kinda |
| 05:08.18 | Shirik | Really I don't use subclipse at all, I use tortoise |
| 05:08.26 | Shirik | subclipse is installed but mostly just for the little icons P |
| 05:08.27 | Shirik | :P |
| 05:08.56 | Shirik | failure #2, though this one's my fault |
| 05:08.58 | Shirik | Error: In trunk/sercom/PacketProcessor.cpp:67 |
| 05:08.58 | Shirik | Error: Line exceeds 80 columns wide |
| 05:09.45 | sylvanaar | why is that an error |
| 05:10.02 | Corrodias | IDE settings, you can turn a lot of things into an error |
| 05:10.12 | Corrodias | at least, that's my assumption as to why it's an error |
| 05:10.12 | Shirik | we added a pre-commit hook to our server with a few rules |
| 05:10.21 | Shirik | because of the way our printers work, etc. |
| 05:10.28 | sylvanaar | what are you doing anyways, serial over ip? |
| 05:10.34 | Shirik | No tabs allowed, all lines less than 80 characters long |
| 05:10.36 | Corrodias | via printer |
| 05:10.51 | Corrodias | carrier pigeon implementation |
| 05:11.02 | Shirik | just generic serial communications interface, sylvanaar |
| 05:11.33 | breser | I hate people that use lines over 80 chars long. |
| 05:11.45 | Shirik | it's for our robot |
| 05:12.08 | Shirik | well, at least I know the commit hook I wrote works |
| 05:12.09 | Shirik | Error: In trunk/sercom/PacketProcessor.h:91 |
| 05:12.10 | Shirik | Error: Tab character found. Replace with spaces. |
| 05:12.19 | breser | I also hate tabs in files. |
| 05:12.19 | sylvanaar | man, if you are limited to 80 chars, what do you display on your 24" panel? |
| 05:12.21 | ckknight | breser: *shrug* |
| 05:12.34 | Shirik | sylvanaar: lots of windows without code :) |
| 05:12.42 | breser | sylvanaar: Multiple editors. :) |
| 05:12.42 | Corrodias | porn. |
| 05:12.54 | breser | I fully endorse the porn option. |
| 05:13.12 | sylvanaar | vPorn |
| 05:15.33 | sylvanaar | anyone a whiz with xsl? |
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| 05:16.18 | Thunder_Child | whorever made xsl |
| 05:16.25 | Thunder_Child | err..whoever* |
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| 05:17.49 | sylvanaar | i dont use it enough to maintain competency |
| 05:27.32 | Shirik | 17 minutes later, commit successful. I think I need to make this hook a little less sensitive |
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| 05:27.42 | Shirik | i.e., tabs and spaces at the ends of lines shouldn't count |
| 05:28.01 | mascondante | hey there guys. |
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| 05:53.00 | Shirik | !g what time is it |
| 05:53.01 | batbot | Shirik: The official US time <http://www.time.gov/> |
| 05:53.03 | Shirik | grr |
| 05:53.12 | Shirik | wrong! |
| 05:54.37 | Shirik | ~time |
| 05:54.38 | purl | somebody said time was 1 dimensional, or everlasting, an illusion, or 2008.07.12 5:54:38 GMT |
| 06:00.28 | Thunder_Child | ~phd |
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| 06:01.05 | Thunder_Child | purl_, phd is Piled Higher and Deeper |
| 06:01.16 | Thunder_Child | bah |
| 06:16.27 | Thunder_Child | THE BEST ONE! |
| 06:17.47 | NightHawkTheSane | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 06:17.47 | purl | takes out Thunder_Child with the trash |
| 06:19.14 | Thunder_Child | besides NightHawkTheSane, you only know 2 |
| 06:22.00 | wereHamster | time.gov - I always suspected that time is controlled by the US government! |
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| 06:23.53 | Shaone | Is there any other way to get the arguments passed to a function through ... besides arg1, arg2, etc.? |
| 06:24.07 | Shaone | Like a table with all the args or something? |
| 06:24.18 | wereHamster | select(1, ...) == arg1 |
| 06:24.40 | wereHamster | if you want a table, you can do: local args = { ... } |
| 06:24.55 | Shaone | Excellent :D Thanks |
| 06:25.07 | wereHamster | but first, why do you need a table? |
| 06:25.24 | Shaone | To determine how many args were passed |
| 06:25.29 | wereHamster | no |
| 06:25.38 | Shaone | And to combine em all into one string |
| 06:25.42 | wereHamster | ~api select |
| 06:25.43 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_select |
| 06:25.48 | wereHamster | read that |
| 06:26.49 | Shaone | Right, but I also need to combine them into a concatenated string afterwards. Still use select? |
| 06:27.08 | wereHamster | yes |
| 06:28.34 | wereHamster | local s=""; for i=0,select("#",...) do s=s..select(i,...) done |
| 06:28.39 | Shaone | Yea gotcha |
| 06:28.44 | Shaone | Thank you |
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| 06:41.06 | Shaone | If I've got a function that's hooked to a secure one, how do I determine the name of the secure function that was called from inside my hooked function? |
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| 06:45.25 | Shaone | Did that question make any sense? |
| 06:50.43 | wereHamster | not for me |
| 06:50.49 | wereHamster | try again please :) |
| 06:51.02 | Shaone | Okay |
| 06:52.31 | Shaone | Say I'm using hooksecurefunc on FollowUnit, and I want to output the name of the function I've hooked (in this case FollowUnit) |
| 06:52.33 | Shaone | So like |
| 06:53.18 | wereHamster | hooksecurefunc(FollowUnit, function(...) myGenericHook("FollowUnit", ...) end) |
| 06:54.09 | Shaone | Okay hmm lemme try something |
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| 06:57.10 | Shaone | Alright, this is working now, wasn't the first time I tried... thanks |
| 07:00.54 | wereHamster | you probably did something wrong |
| 07:01.13 | Shaone | Yea |
| 07:02.31 | Shaone | This is odd, now my addon channel isn't working, hrm |
| 07:03.07 | Shaone | Ahh there we go, woohoo |
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| 07:18.00 | cncfanatics | g'"morning ppl |
| 07:23.14 | Cairenn | hey cncfanatics |
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| 07:35.26 | Thunder_Child | ~purl |
| 07:35.27 | purl | ACTION purrs. |
| 07:37.05 | Thunder_Child | ~phd |
| 07:37.05 | purl | Piled Higher and Deeper |
| 07:38.20 | Fisker- | ~gtfo |
| 07:38.20 | purl | Sorry sir, I won't bother you anymore. |
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| 07:44.52 | cncfanatics | ~~~~~~~ |
| 07:44.52 | purl | ACTION lets a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh eat cncfanatics. |
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| 07:51.08 | Fisker- | ~~~~~~~ |
| 07:51.09 | purl | ACTION lets a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh eat fisker-. |
| 07:51.14 | Fisker- | :O |
| 07:52.40 | Drundia | more tildes please |
| 07:55.11 | durcyn | purl_: tell Drundia about ~~~~~~ |
| 08:00.15 | Shaone | Would loadstring be the way to call a function whose name is stored in a variable, example: local func = "FollowUnit" loadstring(func.."()") |
| 08:00.19 | Shaone | Or is there another way? |
| 08:01.20 | Drundia | _F[func]() |
| 08:01.28 | Drundia | _G[func]() |
| 08:01.39 | Shaone | Mmk |
| 08:01.53 | Drundia | first one is typo |
| 08:02.11 | Shaone | Figured :) |
| 08:03.02 | Shaone | So if I had a string of arguments separated by a tab, would this be the way to call it? |
| 08:03.03 | Shaone | _G[func](strsplit("\t", args)) |
| 08:03.14 | wereHamster | yes |
| 08:03.21 | Shaone | Sweet |
| 08:03.45 | wereHamster | isn't FollowUnit a secure function? |
| 08:03.59 | Shaone | Nope |
| 08:04.35 | wereHamster | are you using the addon channel in your addon? Is that why you needed to serialize the function arguments into a string? |
| 08:04.50 | Shaone | Yea |
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| 08:05.02 | Shaone | Basically broadcasting certain function calls to the addon channel |
| 08:05.04 | wereHamster | you might want to use one of the existing libraries |
| 08:05.43 | wereHamster | AceCommChannel for example, but there are other, standalone libraries, too |
| 08:06.14 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/cat53.html |
| 08:06.35 | Shaone | Didn't really want to include libraries for this stuff, the functions/calls are not that complex. |
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| 08:06.42 | Shaone | But I'll take a look |
| 08:07.15 | wereHamster | what if you have a string "\"", you'll need to escape that. I bet you didn't think about such things |
| 08:07.48 | MentalPower | escapedString = string.format("%q", sourceString) |
| 08:08.00 | MentalPower | tho you'd need to loadstring at the other end |
| 08:08.15 | MentalPower | having said, that, libraries are a much better alternative |
| 08:08.25 | MentalPower | telepathy is rather good |
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| 13:49.39 | clad|away | Morning all |
| 13:49.59 | Yssaril | morning |
| 13:50.01 | wereHamster | morning |
| 13:53.34 | Lunessa | Morning. |
| 13:53.47 | foxlit | http://mathworld.wolfram.com/TuppersSelf-ReferentialFormula.html |
| 13:53.58 | Lunessa | Wait... Aren't you like on GMT? So isn't if early evening for you? |
| 13:54.39 | wereHamster | doesn't matter, it's always UGT |
| 13:55.00 | Lunessa | Don't confuse me with humor and standards! |
| 13:55.53 | wereHamster | really, that was exactly why UGT was invented. To not have these kinds of discussions everytime someone sais 'good morning' or 'good evening' |
| 13:55.56 | nevcairiel | its about 3pm for claddy, but UGT holds |
| 13:56.52 | Yssaril | Lunessa: when you join a channel its always morning when you leave it its always night dosnt matter how long you stay :P |
| 13:57.32 | Lunessa | Must make it hard to schedule a meeting. :P |
| 13:57.45 | nevcairiel | you can always use absolute time |
| 13:58.18 | nevcairiel | ugt is only for greeting |
| 14:00.35 | Lunessa | Universal Greeting Time. I get it. :) |
| 14:03.47 | Drundia | there is also swatch internet time for scheduling meetings... |
| 14:04.04 | nevcairiel | swatch internet time is stupid |
| 14:04.07 | nevcairiel | just use GMT :P |
| 14:04.21 | nevcairiel | so .. waffles or pancakes? |
| 14:04.41 | Stanzilla | waffles! |
| 14:05.16 | wereHamster | swatch, is that the 'each day has 1000 units' time? |
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| 14:11.38 | Drundia | yes |
| 14:12.54 | Drundia | it's also stupid like nevcairiel says, though some people don't know that GMT has no daylight savings... but those people likely don't know about swatch internet time either... |
| 14:14.05 | clad|away | Lunessa: I'm in DC |
| 14:14.13 | clad|away | so both UGT and EST say its morning :P |
| 14:14.25 | clad|away | have a wedding today, and prepping my talks for the lua workshop |
| 14:15.36 | Lunessa | clad|away: Ah! Caloo Calay! Oh frabulous joy! Enjoy both blessed events. And welcome to your native soil. |
| 14:18.48 | Gnarfoz | Drundia: GMT has DST, (it's called BST during that time) - UTC on the other hand, doesn't ;) |
| 14:20.05 | Drundia | but GMT itself doesn't change |
| 14:20.22 | Gnarfoz | that's right, but there's no country observing GMT during BST :D |
| 14:21.00 | Fisker- | You are pretty damn hot Gnarfoz |
| 14:21.29 | Gnarfoz | must be because of the temperature, Fisker- |
| 14:23.08 | Fisker- | i disagree |
| 14:24.09 | Drundia | people like to use both terms meaning same thing. |
| 14:24.47 | Drundia | or i just horribly fail at those terms.... |
| 14:25.03 | Lunessa | Meh, I use GMT mostly from reading lots of space opera. |
| 14:25.05 | Gnarfoz | they like to, yes |
| 14:25.27 | Gnarfoz | and while that's the way words get into dictionaries, it's still not entirely correct :D |
| 14:26.27 | Fisker- | Drundia people tend to get even more confused if you don't just call it GMT+1 instead of BST |
| 14:26.33 | Drundia | actually Algeria observes GMT during BST |
| 14:26.44 | Fisker- | GMT is an outdated term anyways |
| 14:27.26 | Drundia | i prefer saying UTC((+|-)X)? |
| 14:27.51 | foxlit | so, quiz |
| 14:28.00 | foxlit | What's the difference between UTC+1 and GMT+1? |
| 14:29.54 | wereHamster | two letters |
| 14:29.58 | Drundia | is there difference of a few seconds? |
| 14:32.11 | Gnarfoz | ~wiki UTC |
| 14:34.29 | Drundia | oh right, UTC is adjusted to match GMT |
| 15:01.56 | Lunessa | Meh, ove large enough distances, simultaneity is a meaningless concept anyway. |
| 15:08.50 | Industrial | clad|away: will there be a vid of the workshop/talks ? |
| 15:08.51 | Fisker- | http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/microsoft_announces_futuristiclooking_arc_mouse <-wtf |
| 15:09.45 | Industrial | Fisker-: erk far too much arc |
| 15:09.47 | Lunessa | Ugly, uncomfortable, and largely useless? |
| 15:11.22 | Industrial | I can never aim with those things :P |
| 15:12.44 | Lunessa | I use a trackball because a regular mouse cause me physical discomfort. But no on ever thinks that game-players use them so I get 3 buttons (cause the wheel is also a button). |
| 15:14.46 | Industrial | hm I wish git would do little nice icon-overlays on files and folders like svn does on windows |
| 15:16.24 | nevcairiel | get someone to write a TortoiseGit then |
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| 15:16.48 | Industrial | git does have a gui for windows, its just that it's made of less win then tortoise* :p |
| 15:17.14 | nevcairiel | the bultin git gui is pure fail |
| 15:17.41 | Industrial | its workable :p |
| 15:18.06 | Industrial | function unitHasBuff (sUnit, sBuff) for i = 1, 32 do if UnitBuff(sUnit, i) == sBuff then return true end end return false end |
| 15:18.12 | Industrial | there is no easier way to do this right? |
| 15:18.16 | Industrial | better* |
| 15:18.27 | nevcairiel | you could listen for UNIT_AURA and store it locally |
| 15:18.34 | nevcairiel | so you dont have to iterate |
| 15:18.40 | Industrial | but for which units is that |
| 15:18.44 | Industrial | all units in range? |
| 15:18.52 | nevcairiel | i suppose |
| 15:18.54 | Industrial | k |
| 15:19.27 | Industrial | but then it wont update if the unit goes out of the range where the event will be thrown |
| 15:19.38 | nevcairiel | true |
| 15:19.49 | nevcairiel | although if they are in your raid group |
| 15:19.54 | nevcairiel | it should always fire |
| 15:19.57 | Industrial | yeah |
| 15:22.35 | Maldivia | also, I would go to 40 instead of 32 :) |
| 15:22.57 | Gnarfoz | Industrial: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetPlayerBuffName <-- takes a name to verify if a buff is present |
| 15:23.12 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: only for Player |
| 15:23.13 | Gnarfoz | (apparently) |
| 15:23.18 | Gnarfoz | oh, right |
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| 15:30.39 | clad|away | Industrial: there will be audio + slides |
| 15:30.42 | clad|away | as far as I'ma ware |
| 15:30.55 | Industrial | k :) |
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| 15:44.58 | Shirik | oh how sweet |
| 15:45.02 | Shirik | wowkon sent me an email saying they miss me |
| 15:45.05 | clad|away | Shirik: you coming now? :P |
| 15:45.10 | clad|away | Shirik: yeah i got that one too, its my second |
| 15:45.17 | Shirik | I'm in VA :P |
| 15:45.23 | cladhaire | hawt, whereabouts? |
| 15:45.29 | cladhaire | we're at the embassy in alexandria |
| 15:45.58 | Shirik | clifton, which probably won't tell you much |
| 15:46.42 | cladhaire | it tells me that you're 22.3 miles away |
| 15:48.59 | Shirik | clifton's kinda big :P |
| 15:49.06 | Shirik | it doesn't have much in it |
| 15:49.07 | Shirik | but it's big |
| 15:49.08 | cladhaire | heh :P |
| 15:49.25 | Shirik | I actually don't know where the embassy is |
| 15:49.28 | Shirik | but why are you there? |
| 15:49.30 | Shirik | Did you get in trouble? |
| 15:49.34 | cladhaire | Embassy Suites |
| 15:49.34 | cladhaire | lol |
| 15:49.38 | Shirik | ooo |
| 15:49.53 | cladhaire | at King's Road station on the blue/yellow lines |
| 15:50.29 | Shirik | oh that might not be a bad idea, I think there's a metro stop near gwu |
| 15:50.45 | cladhaire | well the conference isn't that close to a metro stop |
| 15:50.51 | cladhaire | but you can go to foggy bottom and take a shuttle in |
| 15:51.00 | cladhaire | so i've been told |
| 15:51.29 | Shirik | nice |
| 15:52.19 | cladhaire | we'll be in Tenley Town tomorrow at a friend's place, where we're staying for the conference |
| 15:53.00 | Shirik | ah you have a friend that lives here? |
| 15:53.06 | cladhaire | yep, near American |
| 15:55.32 | wereHamster | isn't windows able to download the latest drivers from ms.com? |
| 15:55.47 | Shirik | if the vendor is registered with microsoft, yes |
| 15:56.00 | wereHamster | intel isn't? |
| 15:56.07 | Shirik | I'm fairly certain intel is |
| 15:56.53 | wereHamster | I just installed winxp on the intel atom mainboard. Windows isn't able to find any drivers for the audio chip |
| 15:57.18 | Shirik | no answer for you :P |
| 15:58.36 | Lunessa | Listening to you rattle off metro stops makes me miss living in No. VA. |
| 15:59.52 | nevcairiel | its probably not a intel audio chip, so the manufacturer of said chip would have to be regged with MS |
| 16:00.01 | nevcairiel | and not intel |
| 16:01.12 | wereHamster | oh, you're right: Realtek High Definition Audio |
| 16:02.10 | nevcairiel | HD Audio on XP is a bitch, make sure to install the service packs before |
| 16:02.19 | nevcairiel | i had some serious issues with that driver without SP3 |
| 16:02.34 | wereHamster | just updated to SP3 |
| 16:02.51 | Shirik | get vista imo |
| 16:03.13 | nevcairiel | for some reason the microsoft high definition audio patch has issues with SP2 |
| 16:03.21 | nevcairiel | at least for me |
| 16:03.30 | wereHamster | will it run reasonably fast on atom? |
| 16:04.21 | nevcairiel | How is the performance comparable to other cpu's? tbh i dont know much about them :) |
| 16:04.28 | wereHamster | also, buy me vista, 'coz I'm not throwing 300$ out for something my mother will use a few minutes a day |
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| 16:09.26 | Shirik | ~tackle Lopeppeppy |
| 16:09.27 | purl | ACTION tackles Lopeppeppy to the ground. |
| 16:09.47 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, Shirik, I didn't know you cared! *pretty blush* G'morning. |
| 16:10.51 | nevcairiel | morning |
| 16:11.12 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, nevcairiel. Happy Saturday. |
| 16:11.23 | Shirik | Is there a way to control what gets exported in an so file? |
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| 16:12.03 | wereHamster | Shirik: yes, make everythin you don't want to export static |
| 16:12.09 | Shirik | ah ok |
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| 16:12.45 | nevcairiel | Shirik needs to learn C basics :) |
| 16:12.54 | Shirik | yeah :( |
| 16:13.15 | wereHamster | or __attribute__ ((visibility("xxx")) |
| 16:13.29 | Shirik | I picked up C++ without first learning C, and never went over using so files. And this year even though none of us know how to use so files, we want to use them heavily :P |
| 16:13.34 | Shirik | so we're kinda... learning |
| 16:13.50 | Lopeppeppy | Kinda. *grin* |
| 16:14.25 | wereHamster | Shirik: http://accu.org/index.php/journals/1372 |
| 16:14.44 | Shirik | <3 |
| 16:15.10 | Shirik | yeah see I'm used to the Windows style, as is shown in that link |
| 16:15.15 | Shirik | __declspec(dllexport) |
| 16:15.22 | Lunessa | It's Caturday damnit. Post some cats! |
| 16:15.25 | Shirik | naturally I assumed that wouldn't work in gdb :P |
| 16:20.14 | Lunessa | That cat is POSTED! |
| 16:21.44 | Lopeppeppy | Yay me! |
| 16:25.54 | Lunessa | So... many... stupid ... people getting keylogged. |
| 16:26.14 | sacarasc | from what, this time? |
| 16:26.30 | Lopeppeppy | By definition, Lunessa-dear, 90% of people who are keylogged are stupid enough to have brought it onto themselves. 10% get the flash bug or something else random. |
| 16:27.05 | Lunessa | "I'm a girl, want to find boyfriend" posts. SO many DUMB suckers. |
| 16:27.06 | nevcairiel | at least now we can yell at them to buy a authenticator |
| 16:28.30 | Hexarobi | can i get 2 authenticators to share an account? ;) |
| 16:28.42 | nevcairiel | i even finally orderd my (free, but still) credit card to be able to buy one! |
| 16:28.44 | nevcairiel | Hexarobi: no |
| 16:28.51 | nevcairiel | you can have on authenticator on multiple accounts |
| 16:28.54 | nevcairiel | but only one per account |
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| 16:45.58 | Shirik | this is odd, -fvisibility=hidden doesn't seem to exist :( |
| 16:48.18 | nevcairiel | http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/Visibility |
| 16:48.24 | Shirik | yeah I'm looking at that page |
| 16:48.24 | nevcairiel | check that for a official page |
| 16:48.27 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 16:48.47 | nevcairiel | which gcc version? |
| 16:50.22 | Shirik | see that's the worst part |
| 16:50.33 | Shirik | it's not technically gcc |
| 16:50.46 | nevcairiel | so you expect to be able to use gcc specific commands? :) |
| 16:51.09 | Shirik | well it is gcc... |
| 16:51.23 | Shirik | it's just... not |
| 16:51.50 | Shirik | I mean, hell, I do "qcc -V" and it spits out a ton of gcc executables |
| 16:52.24 | nevcairiel | it probably doesnt have the visibility patch |
| 16:52.33 | Shirik | problem is __attribute__(visibility("default/hidden")) works, but -fvisibility doesn't :( |
| 16:53.02 | Shirik | tons of gccness: http://pastey.net/91206 |
| 16:54.06 | Fisker- | qq less |
| 16:58.48 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 16:58.48 | purl | pong |
| 17:02.36 | wereHamster | can I disable passwords only for certain users? I want Administrator to be protected by a password, for all other user accounts I don't want them to have to enter passwords when logging in |
| 17:03.07 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 17:03.27 | nevcairiel | just dont assign passwords |
| 17:03.45 | wereHamster | I did that, it still asks for a password when logging in |
| 17:04.41 | wereHamster | ah. Windows. requires a restart. I should've known that |
| 17:05.04 | Fisker- | not really |
| 17:11.08 | wereHamster | one gotta love windows. Now when I click the 'Administrator' icon in the login screen, the password entry box pops up, but I can't focus it. So Administrator can only login remotely, via rdp. |
| 17:15.13 | Fisker- | again, not windows |
| 17:15.14 | Fisker- | you fail |
| 17:15.55 | wereHamster | how is that my fault?? |
| 17:18.22 | Fisker- | How do you expect that an issue that only you experience is Windows' fault? |
| 17:19.18 | wereHamster | I freshly installed windows, added a new user, set it to have no password. Logged out and tried to login as Administrator. Where did I make the mistake? |
| 17:19.45 | Fisker- | I don't know |
| 17:24.02 | Lunessa | wereHamster: Have you learned nothing from the Lesson of Ed Gruberman? (This is just Fisker- being a dick, as usual.) |
| 17:24.16 | wereHamster | Who's Ed Gruberman? |
| 17:24.22 | Fisker- | Lunessa why am i being a dick? |
| 17:24.24 | Lunessa | ... |
| 17:24.36 | Lunessa | OMG - Let me find the audio... |
| 17:24.39 | Fisker- | Do you honestly believe that all Windows installations in the world are uncapable of logging in as administrator? |
| 17:24.51 | Fisker- | incapable* |
| 17:25.07 | wereHamster | no, not all. I didn't say that. |
| 17:25.08 | Lunessa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY4FbLo8Tck |
| 17:25.16 | Fisker- | I know you didn't |
| 17:25.21 | Fisker- | But you said it was Windows' fault |
| 17:25.24 | Fisker- | which is clearly is not |
| 17:25.28 | Fisker- | it* |
| 17:25.36 | wereHamster | it is, probably a bug, but still windows' fault |
| 17:25.50 | Fisker- | No |
| 17:26.03 | wereHamster | no not a bug or no not windows' fault? |
| 17:26.14 | Fisker- | Both |
| 17:26.40 | Lunessa | For WindowsXP - if you set no password, the user accounts will just login. However, if anything has a password, it will by default prompt for a password. |
| 17:27.07 | Lunessa | You can change this behavior, but I don't recall how. The Knowledge base will guide you. |
| 17:27.43 | wereHamster | Yep. You add a new user, and under certain circumstances it screws up the login window so that you can't login into accounts which require password. As usual a restart fixes it |
| 17:27.54 | wereHamster | Clearly WAI |
| 17:28.11 | wereHamster | (Working as intended) |
| 17:28.33 | Fisker- | How can you change behaviour to make it disregard passwords? |
| 17:28.43 | Fisker- | And what does it have to do with anything? |
| 17:29.08 | wereHamster | run 'control userpasswords2' and there is a checkbox for that |
| 17:30.03 | Fisker- | Bugs usually don't have checkboxes |
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| 18:15.38 | LOLZERCANNON | Hello? |
| 18:15.50 | Lopeppeppy | Morning. |
| 18:15.58 | LOLZERCANNON | Hey can u hlp me |
| 18:16.13 | Thunder_Child | ~asktoask |
| 18:16.13 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 18:16.34 | LOLZERCANNON | can i ask?? |
| 18:16.44 | LOLZERCANNON | lol |
| 18:16.47 | LOLZERCANNON | umm |
| 18:17.00 | LOLZERCANNON | Where do i extract gatherer Mod for WoW |
| 18:17.08 | Lopeppeppy | Ah. |
| 18:17.24 | Lopeppeppy | There are extensive directions for installing addons on the UI/Macro forums, in a sticky. :) |
| 18:17.28 | Lopeppeppy | Let me get you a link. |
| 18:17.33 | LOLZERCANNON | Ok ty |
| 18:18.02 | Lopeppeppy | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=4DDA0129F608E07E2E3FC29278C51036.app05_08?topicId=442927843&sid=1 |
| 18:18.11 | LOLZERCANNON | ty |
| 18:18.38 | Lopeppeppy | I believe they have instructions on their official site as well, http://www.gathereraddon.com/, and a channel here called #norganna |
| 18:18.54 | Lopeppeppy | Bah, Peppy is too slow today. That's what I get for not having a browser open. |
| 18:23.18 | Thunder_Child | ~slow Lopeppeppy |
| 18:23.19 | purl | ACTION attaches a ball and chain to Lopeppeppy |
| 18:23.30 | Lopeppeppy | How kinky |
| 18:25.09 | Thunder_Child | ~kinky Lopeppeppy |
| 18:25.20 | Thunder_Child | fail purl_ |
| 18:25.55 | Thunder_Child | ~kinky |
| 18:25.55 | purl | somebody said kinky was something that would typically include a cat-o-nine tails and maybe a llama, whip cream, and a picture of David Hasslehoff |
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| 18:26.25 | Lopeppeppy | Eeew, David Hasslehoff should change to PeeWee Herman or something. :) |
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| 18:31.37 | Lunessa | Kinky, not disgusting! |
| 18:32.06 | Lopeppeppy | Okay, you win the point. |
| 18:40.08 | |Yssaril| | why is purl purl_? |
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| 18:43.38 | Thunder_Child | purl_ reconnected but didnt rename |
| 18:44.38 | Lopeppeppy | At least she's here with us. |
| 18:46.10 | sacarasc | or is she? |
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| 18:46.45 | Lopeppeppy | Of course she is. |
| 18:47.31 | Kaso | purl is definitely she |
| 18:48.00 | Lopeppeppy | Very much so. That makes 6 shes in the channel, I believe. |
| 18:48.36 | wereHamster | ~irc |
| 18:48.37 | purl | "Welcome to IRC: where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents." |
| 18:49.16 | Maldivia | ~girls |
| 18:49.16 | purl | girls are sweet, wonderful and necessary :) |
| 18:49.17 | wereHamster | Lopeppeppy: how are you sure that there are six ladies in here? I bet 4 of them are FBI agents |
| 18:49.46 | Maldivia | and according to purl, sweet, wonderful and necessary :) |
| 18:49.50 | |Yssaril| | ~FBI |
| 18:49.51 | purl | rumour has it, fbi is http://media.putfile.com/Querido-FBI-video-cortesia-Los-Acheros |
| 18:50.38 | Kaso | FBI is Flowers By Irene |
| 18:51.07 | Lopeppeppy | FBI is Females Being Immoral. :) |
| 18:51.17 | Kaso | heh |
| 18:52.09 | ScytheBlade1 | !ap 1373 |
| 18:52.17 | ScytheBlade1 | .ap 1373 |
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| 18:57.15 | ScytheBlade1 | .ap 1340 |
| 18:57.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Sweet, 235 points for losing 10 games a week. |
| 18:57.58 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 18:57.59 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* |
| 18:58.00 | Gnarfoz | and 40g per person |
| 18:58.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Some of these people are outright TERRIBLE |
| 18:58.33 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm joining with my druid |
| 18:58.36 | ScytheBlade1 | LEAVING MY DRUID AFK |
| 18:58.44 | ScytheBlade1 | And nearly winning 2v1 as a page with 50 points in fire |
| 18:58.52 | ScytheBlade1 | And... S2 honor gear |
| 19:02.53 | NightHawkTheSane | "Two guns Aeryn, we only have two guns." "Well make it look like more!" "How?" "Well.. keep firing, run back and forth, pretend like you're an army." |
| 19:04.56 | Lunessa | "Always with the negative waves, Moriarity. Always with the negative waves!" |
| 19:05.14 | Kaso | Thats farscape ? |
| 19:06.49 | Lunessa | No. Much better. |
| 19:07.00 | Lunessa | Kelly's Heros. |
| 19:07.37 | Thunder_Child | is moriarty a play on death? |
| 19:08.03 | ScytheBlade1 | .ap 1200 |
| 19:08.16 | ScytheBlade1 | That's... still a fair amount of points if I keep the team |
| 19:08.17 | Lunessa | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065938/ |
| 19:14.42 | batrick | !ap 1700 |
| 19:15.01 | batrick | !lua points(1700, 3) |
| 19:15.02 | batbot | batrick: > 534, 3 |
| 19:16.28 | batrick | they haven't changed the way points are calculated recently have they? |
| 19:16.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Not /recently/ I don't think |
| 19:19.02 | Gnarfoz | last change is quite a while back, yeah |
| 19:19.49 | batrick | !lua rating(235,2) |
| 19:19.49 | batbot | batrick: > 1342, 2 |
| 19:19.59 | batrick | !lua rating(235,3) |
| 19:19.59 | batbot | batrick: > 1151, 3 |
| 19:20.11 | batrick | seems off |
| 19:20.32 | batrick | !g wow arena rating calculate |
| 19:20.32 | batbot | batrick: WoW Arena Calculator - Boxspherical Arena Calculator Season 4 <http://www.cheatcodesgalore.com/WoW-Arena-Calculator/> |
| 19:20.39 | batrick | !g wow arena rating calculate site:wowwiki.com |
| 19:20.40 | batbot | batrick: Arena PvP system - WoWWiki - Your guide to the World of Warcraft <http://www.wowwiki.com/Arena_PvP_System> |
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| 19:31.42 | Lunessa | LOL - http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7903584794&sid=1 |
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| 19:37.08 | Lopeppeppy | People are soooo sensitive!! |
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| 19:38.15 | Lunessa | He's prpbably the guy who asks for a manager at Baskin Robins if his cone isn't swirled properly. |
| 19:38.49 | Lopeppeppy | Or if they don't have triple fudge ripple raspberry swirl cones. What-ev-uh. Forums aren't customer service, they're by the grace of other users. |
| 19:39.20 | Lunessa | And he didn't bother to read before asking. :P |
| 19:41.47 | Lopeppeppy | Friggin' moron. Says the chicka who helped edit some of that good stickied stuff. *grump* |
| 19:41.57 | Thunder_Child | did i miss something here? |
| 19:41.58 | Thunder_Child | http://www.gogamer.com/Civilization-Chronicles-Front-Page_stcVVproductId46218738VVcatId444710VVviewprod.htm |
| 19:42.03 | Thunder_Child | http://www.gogamer.com/Sid-Meier-s-Civilization-Chronicles-Front-Page_stcVVproductId6471460VVcatId444710VVviewprod.htm |
| 19:42.18 | Thunder_Child | they seem to be the same product.... |
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| 19:47.08 | Lunessa | ARGH... MORE CIV PRODUCTS I DON'T OWN YET |
| 19:47.28 | Atriace | Don't worry, there's plenty more life to waste. |
| 19:47.39 | Thunder_Child | well i own it but i just thought it was weird |
| 19:48.06 | Thunder_Child | and since i had played all of the civ games but never owned one i figured it was time |
| 19:48.11 | Lunessa | .... I still lose entire weeks to CIV |
| 19:48.24 | Lopeppeppy | Never played |
| 19:48.29 | Atriace | http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=19380 |
| 19:48.36 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy, try it |
| 19:48.39 | Thunder_Child | good stuff |
| 19:48.46 | Lopeppeppy | So I hear. *grin* |
| 19:49.50 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: It's like WoW on crack for people who like to build things. |
| 19:50.02 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* Do I need crack in my life, dear? |
| 19:50.13 | Thunder_Child | yes, yes you do |
| 19:50.41 | Artmi | Just a quick question, if i wanted some kind of progress bar alike thing. Such as displaying the length of something, how would i go about that? |
| 19:51.26 | [dRaCo] | easiest way is probably using a lib that provides bars |
| 19:51.34 | Artmi | This is for learning purpose |
| 19:52.10 | Artmi | Caculating the progress, and the like is no problem, just wondering what kind of widget i would be using for it |
| 19:52.18 | Lunessa | Progress bars are not a good place to start learning. |
| 19:52.56 | Fisker- | hello Thunder_Child |
| 19:53.23 | Thunder_Child | hello Fisker- |
| 19:53.31 | Artmi | Lunessa, I'm not new to programming, just don't know about all World of warcraft widgets |
| 19:53.44 | Atriace | Artmi: simplest way would be to percentage of progress of your X object and use obj:SetWidth() to change the "progress bar" of your bar. |
| 19:53.59 | Artmi | So just a simple frame then atriace? |
| 19:54.18 | Atriace | Well, texture inside of frame, but yeah. |
| 19:54.27 | Artmi | Okey thanks, that's all i wanted to know :) |
| 19:55.03 | Artmi | Is it possible to just change the background color of the Frame widget? |
| 19:55.12 | Artmi | (don't feel like searching for textures to use whilst learning) |
| 19:55.25 | Atriace | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:55.56 | Gnarfoz | for that, and more |
| 19:55.56 | Atriace | Yes, Artmi. Just look at the create texture API for definition of setting color rather than image reference. |
| 19:56.07 | Lunessa | Artmi: You can re-use the blizzard ones as well. |
| 19:56.10 | Artmi | Atriace,Thanks. |
| 19:56.19 | Artmi | Lunessa, Good point |
| 19:56.34 | Atriace | Artmi: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Frame_CreateTexture |
| 19:58.12 | Atriace | I feel strangely quasi-present. |
| 19:59.01 | Artmi | Atriace,sweet, that link also showed me http://www.wowwiki.com/Layer :) |
| 19:59.07 | Artmi | Good to know in what order the layers are done |
| 19:59.52 | Atriace | :) |
| 20:01.52 | Lopeppeppy | Any of you tech geeks have a GPS unit you recommend? I got studiously lost last night, and I think I need a Jane to keep me company in the car. |
| 20:02.38 | Lunessa | TomTom. Or any of the Garmen products. |
| 20:03.21 | Thunder_Child | or the KITT one |
| 20:03.42 | Lopeppeppy | I've had a Garmen recommended already. *nod* Girlie being lost at midnight in downtown inner city with less than a third tank of gas... yeah, not being repeated ever. |
| 20:03.51 | Gnarfoz | it's Garmin btw oO |
| 20:04.51 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy: Garmen is very good |
| 20:04.58 | Shirik | nuvi 630 I believe is what I have |
| 20:04.58 | Lopeppeppy | Charmin, Charming, Garish... I'll find it, trust me! |
| 20:04.59 | Shirik | garmin |
| 20:05.00 | Shirik | that's it |
| 20:05.39 | Shirik | nuvi 650 |
| 20:05.39 | Shirik | that's it |
| 20:05.47 | Thunder_Child | ~fail shi |
| 20:05.47 | purl | shi, you Fail! |
| 20:05.51 | Thunder_Child | errrr... |
| 20:05.52 | Thunder_Child | damn |
| 20:05.57 | Lopeppeppy | Thanks, guys. That gives me something to look for when I go out next week. |
| 20:06.24 | Fisker- | you want to enlist? |
| 20:06.41 | Shirik | enlist in? |
| 20:06.50 | Fisker- | my army |
| 20:06.53 | Fisker- | of the dead |
| 20:07.00 | Shirik | (15:12:50) (KYYLLE) how do you get this addon tow rok? |
| 20:07.01 | Shirik | (15:13:00) (KYYLLE) it makes no sence? |
| 20:07.12 | Thunder_Child | more like damned than dead |
| 20:07.55 | Fisker- | moar like damned hot |
| 20:08.19 | Shirik | rawur |
| 20:08.29 | Shirik | why would I enlist in your army again? |
| 20:09.08 | Fisker- | because i am cool |
| 20:09.43 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, because you're bored |
| 20:11.43 | Lopeppeppy | Best reason to do something. Not. *rolls eyes* |
| 20:16.02 | Shirik | yeah I'm an idiot |
| 20:16.09 | Shirik | when I was complaining about -fvisibility=hidden not existing |
| 20:16.19 | Shirik | that was totally because I was using it as a compiler argument, not a linker argument |
| 20:16.26 | Sixen_ | *waves* |
| 20:19.07 | Lopeppeppy | Nice, Shirik. |
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| 20:25.17 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Seerah |
| 20:25.29 | Seerah | hola peppy :) |
| 20:25.33 | Shirik | so I really need to figure out how to get Linux on my laptop |
| 20:26.02 | Shirik | too much swapping between utilities driving me crazy |
| 20:26.41 | Lopeppeppy | Partitions? |
| 20:26.59 | Thunder_Child | wow, war just nuked 4 of it's classes and is using punkpuster for security |
| 20:27.29 | Thunder_Child | punkbuster* |
| 20:27.30 | Shirik | partitions isn't the issue |
| 20:27.35 | Atriace | come again. WoW is or another game starting with war? |
| 20:27.41 | Thunder_Child | warhammer online |
| 20:27.45 | Atriace | ah |
| 20:27.56 | nevcairiel | punkbuster in WAR? |
| 20:28.00 | Thunder_Child | http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm?FEATURE=2041&GAME=239&bhjs=0 |
| 20:28.03 | nevcairiel | haha EA is such a bunch of idiots :P |
| 20:28.04 | Shirik | issue is my laptop refuses to use the ethernet port and/or wireless card with gentoo's live cd |
| 20:29.51 | Lopeppeppy | Your laptop has an attitude and needs therapy, Shirik. |
| 20:30.25 | Sixen_ | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7903744382&sid=1 --- I love it when people are oh so specific about their problem. |
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| 20:44.04 | Atriace | Is there a better way of doing if then elseif then etc... ? |
| 20:45.34 | Shirik | main.cpp:83: warning: `visibility' attribute directive ignored |
| 20:45.35 | Shirik | :( |
| 20:45.42 | Shirik | Atriace: What do you mean "better" ? |
| 20:47.11 | Atriace | I see to remember in another language you could do some sort of do statement that would - oh blimey I don't remember how it worked. The point is I have a long list of elseif tests that are all testing one argument against a list of available arguments. Is there a faster/more-elegent way of testing if the argument is a valid one by some other means? |
| 20:47.40 | Shirik | switch? |
| 20:47.46 | Atriace | switch? |
| 20:47.48 | Shirik | or "select" in some languages |
| 20:48.14 | Shirik | switch(foo){ case 1: <instructions> break; case 2: <instructions> break; default: <instructions> break; } |
| 20:48.19 | Shirik | that doesn't exist in Lua |
| 20:48.30 | Atriace | ah! Case |
| 20:48.38 | Atriace | That was the statement I was looking for |
| 20:48.44 | Shirik | but it doesn't exist in Lua |
| 20:48.47 | Atriace | doh |
| 20:49.06 | Shirik | if...elseif...elseif... ... ... end is your only choice |
| 20:49.11 | Shirik | unless you do something like.... |
| 20:49.14 | Shirik | make a table |
| 20:50.04 | Shirik | foo = { [1] = function() ... end, [2] = function() ... end, [3] = function() ... end}; foo[bar]() |
| 20:50.36 | Atriace | Thanks for the direction, Shirik. |
| 20:50.41 | Fisker- | i'll blow you up Shirik |
| 20:50.42 | Fisker- | i swear |
| 20:50.47 | Shirik | with your army? |
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| 20:50.53 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 20:50.55 | Fisker- | wanna join? |
| 20:50.59 | Shirik | nah |
| 20:51.04 | Fisker- | meh |
| 20:51.07 | Fisker- | what about you kd3 ? |
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| 21:02.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh wow |
| 21:02.15 | ScytheBlade1 | That mmorph.com site absolutely refuses to load unless you have cookies turned on |
| 21:02.31 | ScytheBlade1 | *mmorpg.com |
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| 21:09.14 | Atriace | Here's an interesting read, emulated switch in Lua: http://lua-users.org/wiki/SwitchStatement |
| 21:10.06 | Shirik | that's what I just said Atriace :P |
| 21:10.13 | Atriace | I know. ;) |
| 21:10.48 | Atriace | But this guy is so much more verbose than a one-line solution. :p |
| 21:11.10 | Shirik | heh |
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| 21:14.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha |
| 21:14.53 | ScytheBlade1 | http://oss.digirati.com.br/mod_lua/2.0/ |
| 21:17.10 | wereHamster | "for example PHP and Perl use the C stack for interpret the script, and enable a stack overflow attack." |
| 21:17.20 | wereHamster | ... as does Lua |
| 21:18.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, read the FAQ |
| 21:18.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Why do you write in such a bad English? |
| 21:18.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Sorry, I don't know how to write in English. |
| 21:19.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Something tells me he just has no idea how to put what he's trying to say in regular english |
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| 21:23.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Not that it compiles anyway |
| 21:24.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Even though just regular CGI is pretty speedy |
| 21:25.17 | Atriace | Are you having a conversation with someone invisibly, ScytheBlade? |
| 21:25.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Sure am |
| 21:25.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Me and my headache |
| 21:25.41 | Atriace | Maybe I can help... |
| 21:25.46 | Atriace | LifE is SO mUcH eaSier wHEn you STop woRrYing aBoUT caPItaliZatIon. |
| 21:25.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Have a bat? |
| 21:25.50 | ScytheBlade1 | It you hit me a -- --- |
| 21:25.51 | ScytheBlade1 | I hate you |
| 21:25.54 | Atriace | lol |
| 21:26.58 | ScytheBlade1 | http://dev.averageurl.com/lua/test.lua |
| 21:27.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Easier than I expected |
| 21:27.28 | Atriace | Bah... it's saturday. I'm not going to program anymore today. Ciao fellas. |
| 21:32.15 | Shirik | can anyone go to gentoo.org and tell me if the site works? |
| 21:33.19 | ScytheBlade1 | yup |
| 21:33.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Works |
| 21:33.26 | Shirik | wtfhax |
| 21:33.31 | Shirik | ~dns gentoo.org |
| 21:33.49 | Shirik | oh my |
| 21:33.56 | Shirik | http://204.74.99.100 == very angry site |
| 21:35.26 | Shirik | sigh, why can't I go there ( |
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| 21:36.09 | Lopeppeppy | I can't either, darlin', it's not just you. |
| 21:36.39 | ScytheBlade1 | You have to hit it by hostname, not IP |
| 21:36.42 | ScytheBlade1 | It's vhosted |
| 21:36.48 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.gentoo.org/ |
| 21:36.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Loads fine |
| 21:38.30 | Fisker- | where we come from Shirik that is considered a beginners mistake |
| 21:39.04 | Lopeppeppy | Owies |
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| 21:39.59 | batrick | so much hate here |
| 21:40.27 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 21:41.05 | Fisker- | now i'm going to sleep mwuhahahha |
| 21:43.14 | ScytheBlade1 | http://dev.averageurl.com/lua/test.lua |
| 21:43.18 | ScytheBlade1 | That's a fun little page |
| 21:43.32 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: nothing loads for me :( |
| 21:43.39 | Shirik | The server at www.gentoo.org is taking too long to respond. |
| 21:43.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Flush your DNS |
| 21:43.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Or throw that IP into your HOSTS file |
| 21:44.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Or run a TCP traceroute to :80 |
| 21:44.37 | Shirik | already flushed DNS |
| 21:44.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Then call your ISP up and thank them for the quality service that they provide you |
| 21:45.16 | Shirik | honestly my parents' service is kinda amazing |
| 21:49.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: http://wowi.pastey.net/91221 |
| 21:49.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Works fine here, couldn't tell you |
| 21:49.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Can you telnet to it? |
| 21:50.17 | Shirik | I can't trace using my parent's router :( |
| 21:50.36 | Shirik | C:\Windows\system32>telnet www.gentoo.org 80 |
| 21:50.36 | Shirik | 'telnet' is not recognized as an internal or external command, |
| 21:50.36 | Shirik | operable program or batch file. |
| 21:50.38 | Shirik | so fail |
| 21:50.49 | ScytheBlade1 | putty! |
| 21:50.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I know you have putty! |
| 21:51.07 | Shirik | ah yes |
| 21:51.33 | Shirik | nothing |
| 21:51.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Then I'd take a close look at what is being blocked and where |
| 21:52.23 | Shirik | I'll just download the CD from my server |
| 21:52.28 | Shirik | my server can connect :( |
| 21:52.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Broken desktop is broken |
| 21:53.02 | Shirik | gentoo's site works very well on lynx |
| 21:54.08 | Shirik | why is my server downloading at 2KiB/sec.... |
| 21:54.21 | ScytheBlade1 | because your mirror sucks |
| 21:55.50 | Shirik | is there a way in lynx to see where a link goes to, instead of following it? |
| 21:57.51 | Shirik | woot, got it |
| 22:03.43 | amro | <3 lynx |
| 22:07.24 | wereHamster | beware when using lynx: http://www.boingboing.net/2005/01/27/jailed-for-using-a-n.html |
| 22:08.25 | Shirik | wow |
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| 22:08.55 | amro | :O |
| 22:09.25 | Shirik | but yeah seriously, gentoo's site looks like it identifies lynx and prepares for it :) |
| 22:09.35 | Shirik | because it looks very presentable :) |
| 22:09.53 | amro | as it had better, installing X can take awhile on gentoo :) |
| 22:10.02 | Shirik | yes |
| 22:10.25 | wereHamster | use binpkg's if you don't want to wait |
| 22:10.32 | Shirik | screw that |
| 22:10.45 | Shirik | build from stage 1 |
| 22:11.17 | wereHamster | total waste of time |
| 22:11.21 | Shirik | :P |
| 22:12.03 | amro | I spent more time trying to get video drivers to work :( </3 ati |
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| 22:18.25 | Artmi | Is there any function to determine whetever the class in question has mana or energy? |
| 22:18.53 | Corrodias | a specific class? you can figure that part out yourself |
| 22:19.07 | ecstasia | LOL |
| 22:19.19 | Corrodias | shaman, paladin, druid, hunter, etc: mana |
| 22:19.22 | Corrodias | druid, rogue: energy |
| 22:19.26 | Artmi | Well, i know which classes has it, but ... |
| 22:19.26 | Corrodias | druid, warrior: rage |
| 22:19.32 | ecstasia | quite |
| 22:19.35 | Artmi | Okey, well, let me rephrase myself. |
| 22:19.51 | Artmi | Is there a function, what class the targeted unit is? |
| 22:20.01 | ecstasia | okay that just made it worse |
| 22:20.07 | Artmi | How so? |
| 22:20.21 | Corrodias | it did? |
| 22:20.23 | ecstasia | where to begin... |
| 22:20.25 | ecstasia | no, artmi |
| 22:20.32 | Corrodias | from what i've seen in unitframe addons, it should be a yes |
| 22:20.58 | Artmi | ecstasia, You're just rude, if you don't want to lend a helping hand, you don't need to speak to me at all |
| 22:21.18 | ecstasia | wow, calm down |
| 22:21.25 | Corrodias | i just don't know what the function is, but wowwiki would |
| 22:21.34 | Artmi | aye i'm currently searching for it, just can't locate it |
| 22:21.44 | Artmi | aah found it! |
| 22:21.51 | Artmi | UnitPowerType |
| 22:21.55 | Artmi | does exactly what i need it to do |
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| 22:39.41 | amro | wow |
| 22:39.52 | amro | facebook has ads for a fraudulent organization |
| 22:45.00 | |Jelly| | ~hug Shirik |
| 22:45.00 | purl | ACTION jumps into Shirik's lap and huggles and *hugs* Shirik |
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| 23:24.41 | foxlit | "To quit, perchance to /afk" |
| 23:28.33 | durcyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:31.25 | foxlit | The original sounds better, as far as I can tell |
| 23:31.56 | foxlit | You'd have to do something crazy when pronouncing /away to make it fit the original rhytm |
| 23:32.04 | foxlit | s/tm/thm/ |
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