| 00:00.08 | NightHawkTheSane | or we could just stop bringing 7 shamans to raids. |
| 00:00.18 | Lopeppeppy | Or that. |
| 00:05.06 | NightHawkTheSane | "Paladin's short-term-blessings no longer overwrite long-term-blessings." *boggle* WTF? |
| 00:06.12 | Arrowmaster | wtf? |
| 00:06.39 | Arrowmaster | so i can get salv and kings from 1 pally? or salv kings and wisdom? |
| 00:06.52 | ScytheBlade1 | You can get one of those from one pally |
| 00:06.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: i dont think it means that |
| 00:07.15 | NightHawkTheSane | i think it means pallies cann't greater blessing a class, and overwrite that with a regular blessing for a specifi cperson |
| 00:07.45 | [dRaCo] | so that means less shamans and more paladins? great :/ |
| 00:07.45 | Arrowmaster | that would be retarded |
| 00:07.55 | Arrowmaster | since you coulded BoP then |
| 00:07.59 | Arrowmaster | couldnt |
| 00:08.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Wait, where did that come from? |
| 00:08.08 | NightHawkTheSane | mmo-champion.com |
| 00:08.30 | Tekkub | no "sort term" are like freedom that's only a few seconds |
| 00:08.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: i imagine bop/bosac would still overwrite as they're special case |
| 00:08.49 | Corrodias | guys? you can cancel buffs manually |
| 00:08.50 | NightHawkTheSane | or maybe it's what Tekkub means.. |
| 00:08.51 | Arrowmaster | that would make more sense |
| 00:09.01 | Tekkub | they're going to move them out so they're no longer blessings |
| 00:09.02 | Arrowmaster | that bop bosac and bof didnt remove other blessings |
| 00:09.16 | NightHawkTheSane | thats probably it |
| 00:09.27 | Corrodias | i bet what they MEAN is... that if paladin A buffs you for 30 minutes with Kings and paladin B casts the 5 minute version, it doesn't overwrite it |
| 00:09.48 | Arrowmaster | do they even do that now? |
| 00:09.50 | Tekkub | bop/bosac/bof are what they specifically said they didn't want overwriting the other blessings |
| 00:10.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Corrodias: that wont work currently |
| 00:10.05 | Corrodias | i don't remember |
| 00:10.09 | Corrodias | oh, never mind |
| 00:10.11 | NightHawkTheSane | you get a "more powerful spell is active" |
| 00:10.13 | Arrowmaster | yeah i think tekkubs right |
| 00:10.20 | Tekkub | don't think, know |
| 00:10.54 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i forgot about those, i was only thinking in terms of the 10/30m blessings |
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| 00:47.42 | Unregistered | I just reinstalled WoW and Cosmos, and now I'm having an issue where my questlog is all 1 window... like the quests and the description. How can I get it back to being the quests in 1 window and the description in the other? Thanks |
| 00:48.02 | AnduinLothar | enable all the addons |
| 00:48.12 | Corrodias | having them separate is like... an addon, what is it >:/ |
| 00:48.21 | Corrodias | shit, i don't remember. goes well with lightheaded |
| 00:48.31 | AnduinLothar | the Cosmos one is PartyQuests |
| 00:48.56 | Unregistered | ok i'll see if that works, when i checked the addons it said that one wasn't supposed to work or something, let me see if enabling them all works |
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| 00:50.33 | Unregistered | yeah that didn't work =/ it says for partyquest that the "dependency is missing" |
| 00:50.49 | AnduinLothar | so enable the dependancies |
| 00:51.13 | Unregistered | i have everything enabled, it's not there |
| 00:51.19 | Unregistered | i downloaded the complete |
| 00:52.09 | AnduinLothar | grab the patcher and use that, the zips have been having issues recently, not including all the files |
| 00:52.39 | Unregistered | ok i'll check it out, thanks |
| 00:52.47 | AnduinLothar | or redownload the zip |
| 00:52.59 | AnduinLothar | looks liek it says it's 8 MB right now which sounds right |
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| 00:58.05 | ckknight | ~seen Guillotine |
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| 01:02.13 | Shirik|zZz | Mikk: ping |
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| 01:02.23 | Shirik|zZz | ffs, what is with calkins tonight |
| 01:02.33 | AnduinLothar | how much defense value do 73 bosses have? |
| 01:04.06 | Shirik | How complex is it to integrate CTL with an addon? |
| 01:04.21 | Shirik | specifically, with an already-written addon |
| 01:04.25 | AnduinLothar | ctl? |
| 01:04.31 | Shirik | chat throttle lib |
| 01:04.45 | AnduinLothar | oh, it's pretty easy |
| 01:04.53 | AnduinLothar | the syntax is very similar |
| 01:05.12 | Shirik | is there a site for it or etc? |
| 01:05.19 | AnduinLothar | it's basicly a wrapper for the send function |
| 01:05.36 | AnduinLothar | http://www.wowwiki.com/ChatThrottleLib |
| 01:06.37 | Shirik | hm, ok |
| 01:06.48 | Shirik | I made a change to this addon I wrote to make it work outside the guild |
| 01:06.57 | Shirik | but that means it's possible to get like 100 requests in tells at once |
| 01:07.06 | Shirik | which would be bad :P |
| 01:08.35 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. That sounds bad. |
| 01:08.39 | Lopeppeppy | Hi Shirik! |
| 01:09.11 | Shirik | hi Lopeppeppy |
| 01:10.50 | MentalPower | Shirik: if its just addon messages, its a simple s/SendAddonMessage/ChatThrottleLib:SendAddonMessage/ |
| 01:11.01 | Shirik | don't I need to specify priority as well? |
| 01:11.09 | MentalPower | if its chat messages then you have to add a prefix param at the top |
| 01:11.11 | MentalPower | ah yeah |
| 01:11.25 | MentalPower | forgot bout that one :) |
| 01:11.45 | MentalPower | but yeah, theres no param order change or anything |
| 01:11.54 | Shirik | still that's fairly easy |
| 01:12.05 | MentalPower | it was pretty painless in my case, since I already had the comms abstracted out |
| 01:12.18 | MentalPower | and only had one place where send*message was called |
| 01:16.11 | Shirik | I only have like 3 calls so it's fine |
| 01:16.13 | Shirik | it's a 200 line addon |
| 01:16.38 | Sixen | The D3 forums make me /wrist. |
| 01:16.38 | ScytheBlade1 | What does it do? |
| 01:17.29 | Corrodias | i have suggestions for how blizzard do things in d3, but honestly i hope they just ignore everybody and do it their own way |
| 01:18.16 | Shirik | it actually does something that's already found all over the place, ScytheBlade1 |
| 01:18.29 | Shirik | It provides the capability to send item links in regular channels |
| 01:18.33 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:18.34 | Shirik | however, this has one caveat: |
| 01:18.34 | ScytheBlade1 | nice |
| 01:18.50 | Shirik | The current versions do something like replace your text with {somerandomcodeherethatsuglyandunreadable} |
| 01:18.56 | Shirik | which is ok if both people have the addon |
| 01:18.59 | Shirik | it's not ok if someone's missing it |
| 01:19.15 | Shirik | My version, if you don't have the addon, you just see [Item] |
| 01:19.21 | Shirik | Item being whatever it's called |
| 01:19.26 | Shirik | as if it was an unclickable, uncolored link |
| 01:19.57 | Shirik | the side effect is that, while those other versions don't allow you to use them in general/local defense, etc. for spam concerns, mine will |
| 01:21.06 | Shirik | I had it working for just guild before, but I want it to work everywhere :) Thus, gogo CTL |
| 01:21.48 | Cairenn|afk | hahahahhahaah |
| 01:21.48 | Cairenn|afk | http://www.tastelesschoice.com/gps.htm |
| 01:22.44 | Tekkub | tastes less more filling? |
| 01:25.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: what exactly is sent over the addon comm channel? |
| 01:26.03 | Shirik | item name & link data |
| 01:26.06 | Shirik | that's it |
| 01:26.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Via whisper? |
| 01:26.15 | Shirik | in some cases |
| 01:26.21 | Shirik | it depends, really |
| 01:26.27 | ScytheBlade1 | What would the exceptions be? |
| 01:26.59 | Shirik | I hook SendChatMessage so when it detects you trying to send a link, it pre-sends the info to guild (the justification being most channel members will often be guild members for private channels) |
| 01:27.26 | Shirik | after that, anyone who receives the link but doesn't know what the link is (i.e., they're not in guild) sends a request to the person via whisper asking what it was |
| 01:27.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Time for me to break things |
| 01:27.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Four of my six channels are non guild related :) |
| 01:27.37 | Shirik | I know what you're thinking, and I'm way ahead of you |
| 01:27.40 | Shirik | oh |
| 01:27.51 | Shirik | well if you're going to forge item links to send, I've got that covered :) |
| 01:28.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Time for me to break MORE things |
| 01:28.13 | ScytheBlade1 | There are different items with identical names in game |
| 01:28.14 | Shirik | however by all means |
| 01:28.16 | ScytheBlade1 | How do you handle that? |
| 01:28.29 | Shirik | yes that's a problem that I haven't worked out yet. It came across my mind but I consider that a low priority atm |
| 01:28.38 | Shirik | one thing at a time :) |
| 01:28.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Fair enough |
| 01:28.46 | ScytheBlade1 | There are only four of them total in game, iirc |
| 01:28.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Technically eight |
| 01:28.53 | Mikk | Shirik: pong |
| 01:29.06 | Shirik | by all means, feel free to break it. This was originally written for only my guild, but it worked so well I wanted to push it out further |
| 01:29.15 | Shirik | Mikk: I just had a question about CTL, but got it answered, thanks :) |
| 01:29.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Careful. I might. ;) |
| 01:31.45 | Rabbitbunny | Mail between accounts takes an hour now? |
| 01:31.52 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 01:31.53 | kd3 | has for a while |
| 01:31.56 | Shirik | it always has, hasn't it? |
| 01:31.56 | Tekkub | has for some time |
| 01:31.59 | Rabbitbunny | ugh |
| 01:32.08 | Tekkub | Shirik, yes and no |
| 01:32.18 | Shirik | ok, it has for as long as I've used mail :P |
| 01:32.20 | Tekkub | cash/text no, items yes |
| 01:32.24 | Shirik | ok, yes, for items |
| 01:32.27 | Shirik | sorry I was unclear :) |
| 01:32.35 | Rabbitbunny | I'm out in HH without the leather i need, it's coming via mail. |
| 01:32.39 | Tekkub | cash from AH used to be instant as well, now it's an hour |
| 01:32.47 | Rabbitbunny | Why? |
| 01:32.54 | Tekkub | goldsellers |
| 01:33.10 | Rabbitbunny | They're moving bits, just turn on logging. |
| 01:33.20 | Rabbitbunny | analyze the bits later, like when I have my leather. |
| 01:33.23 | ScytheBlade1 | All mail from one account to the same account is instant; otherwise it's one hour |
| 01:33.27 | Tekkub | point is to catch and stop before the bits move |
| 01:33.31 | ScytheBlade1 | That's the simplistic version |
| 01:33.45 | Rabbitbunny | dang. |
| 01:33.59 | Tekkub | ScytheBlade1, no, items from AH are instant |
| 01:34.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Tekkub: from people ;) |
| 01:34.28 | Tekkub | and from cancel/expire... |
| 01:34.40 | ScytheBlade1 | The AH cheats |
| 01:34.45 | ScytheBlade1 | We just accept this and move on |
| 01:34.54 | Tekkub | we accepted it long ago |
| 01:35.05 | Tekkub | I'm not the one bitching about the change fro 3 patches back |
| 01:35.17 | ScytheBlade1 | True |
| 01:35.25 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: so your delaying any displayed itemlinks from non guildies until you send a whisper and wait for a possible reply? |
| 01:35.36 | Shirik | right |
| 01:35.38 | Shirik | TTL right now is 2s |
| 01:35.45 | Arrowmaster | sounds nasty |
| 01:36.18 | Shirik | well when you think about it |
| 01:36.30 | Shirik | how many times do people link to non-trade? |
| 01:36.36 | ScytheBlade1 | All the time |
| 01:36.38 | Corrodias | many many many. |
| 01:36.42 | Shirik | o.O |
| 01:36.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Like |
| 01:36.58 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't sit in any, ANY of the standard channels |
| 01:37.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Channels 1-6 are all custom and I link/recieve links in there religiously |
| 01:37.14 | Shirik | oh one more thing |
| 01:37.21 | Shirik | it does ... crap starting council |
| 01:37.21 | Shirik | brb |
| 01:37.24 | Corrodias | when people talk about items, to say anything about them, they usually link them instead of just saying the name |
| 01:37.37 | Shirik | ok attempt over |
| 01:37.38 | Shirik | lol |
| 01:37.40 | Shirik | anyway! |
| 01:37.44 | ScytheBlade1 | hahaha |
| 01:37.47 | ScytheBlade1 | owned |
| 01:37.52 | Tekkub | that was fast |
| 01:37.59 | Arrowmaster | council is buggy |
| 01:38.01 | Arrowmaster | it happens |
| 01:38.11 | Tekkub | oh |
| 01:38.35 | Arrowmaster | its all the hunters fault |
| 01:38.44 | Tekkub | naturally |
| 01:38.53 | Arrowmaster | due to that damn patch that made pets want to attack from behind |
| 01:38.58 | Shirik | anyway |
| 01:39.23 | Shirik | before sending teh request, a cache is checked as well |
| 01:39.40 | Shirik | so best case scenario is that the same item is linked and you won't have to re-check it |
| 01:39.48 | Tekkub | simple solution, don't use pets on that boss (yes, I'm a BM huntard and I just said that) |
| 01:40.06 | Arrowmaster | what about items with the same name but different itemids |
| 01:40.06 | Shirik | that's actually how the guild part works, it just pre-loads the cache |
| 01:40.06 | Shirik | Arrowmaster, ScytheBlade1 already touched that :) |
| 01:40.11 | Arrowmaster | Tekkub: no the issue is that mobs like to do it too and run all the fuck around |
| 01:40.21 | Tekkub | oh |
| 01:40.23 | Shirik | (21:30:29) (@Shirik) yes that's a problem that I haven't worked out yet. It came across my mind but I consider that a low priority atm |
| 01:40.23 | Shirik | (21:30:38) (@Shirik) one thing at a time :) |
| 01:41.12 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: when somebody links an item using it, is it the same as a normal link to a channel or is it somehow different? |
| 01:41.24 | Shirik | like how would you use it? |
| 01:41.34 | Shirik | yeah you just link it like you would like to guild |
| 01:41.39 | Shirik | shift click the item into the box |
| 01:41.48 | Shirik | the magic is done with a SendChatMessage hook |
| 01:41.50 | Arrowmaster | yeah but the link, is it exactly the same as normal? |
| 01:42.05 | Shirik | no, it's just a bracketed version of the name |
| 01:42.13 | Shirik | for example, if you didn't have the addon, you would see [Hearthstone] |
| 01:42.18 | Shirik | no color, no clickable |
| 01:42.18 | Arrowmaster | ok |
| 01:42.30 | Shirik | that's the #1 reason I made this, is because I don't want it to look like crap to people without the addon |
| 01:44.40 | Arrowmaster | although i didnt think addon whispers were throttled |
| 01:45.24 | ScytheBlade1 | The item links themselves is another good point |
| 01:45.42 | ScytheBlade1 | What do you do when an item is linked with different gems and enchants from the cached entry? |
| 01:46.09 | Shirik | same problem as before |
| 01:46.20 | Shirik | maybe I should strip gems and enchants |
| 01:46.26 | Arrowmaster | nah |
| 01:46.34 | Arrowmaster | i think you should adjust the solution |
| 01:46.52 | Shirik | The #1 goal is to make it not look like crap to people |
| 01:46.55 | Shirik | so I don't want that to change |
| 01:47.00 | Arrowmaster | and make the link as readable as possible with as little extra crap |
| 01:47.12 | Arrowmaster | by encoding the extra data better |
| 01:47.44 | Arrowmaster | i have an idea ill try out later |
| 01:48.17 | Shirik | oh btw |
| 01:48.20 | Shirik | is there some bug with item links |
| 01:48.24 | Arrowmaster | the numbers in itemlinks are 32bit singed ints right? |
| 01:48.49 | Shirik | it seems when you link an item with "of the _____" enchant, trying to link from a link causes it to drop the enchant |
| 01:49.18 | Arrowmaster | never seen that before |
| 01:49.27 | kd3 | in the default UI? I've run in to that |
| 01:49.34 | kd3 | think slouken's talked about it on the boards once or twice |
| 01:49.37 | Shirik | ah ok |
| 01:49.51 | Arrowmaster | its not something at always happens right? |
| 01:49.58 | Shirik | I haven't really looked at it in detail |
| 01:50.02 | Shirik | just something that I came across |
| 01:50.07 | Arrowmaster | ok doing illidan now |
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| 01:51.49 | Arrowmaster | ok wiped |
| 01:53.05 | Shirik | not a good night for either of us |
| 01:53.05 | Shirik | lol |
| 01:53.22 | Shirik | granted, we've never downed council |
| 01:53.35 | Arrowmaster | mt lagged out during p1 |
| 01:53.39 | Shirik | yuck |
| 01:53.40 | Lopeppeppy | Lag kills. *nod* |
| 01:53.56 | Arrowmaster | then rogue tanked it for a long ass time |
| 01:54.20 | Arrowmaster | i think he vanished or something after cheatdeath went off |
| 01:59.54 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy and Arrowmaster are in the same guild? |
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| 02:03.09 | Shirik | but anyway Arrowmaster / ScytheBlade1, these are flaws I recognize, but they go against my #1 goal of making it look seamless to anyone that does not have the addon |
| 02:03.27 | Shirik | If you have any suggestions to maintain my goal while resolving those issues, I'm all ears |
| 02:03.34 | Tekkub | man, mage sucks ass when you've not gotten frost nova yet |
| 02:03.52 | kd3 | yes |
| 02:04.52 | NightHawkTheSane | even after getting it, i hate leveling my mage :\ |
| 02:05.17 | Tekkub | well I'm only doing this to finish testing my Bloodmyst guide |
| 02:05.21 | Tekkub | but ye gods |
| 02:05.32 | Tekkub | these murlocs are raping me one on one |
| 02:05.56 | Tekkub | unless my summer buffs both proc at the same time.. then I one hit the fuckers |
| 02:06.28 | Tekkub | <3 150 Fire dam + fireball crit |
| 02:09.24 | Tekkub | it's like 5 fireballs in one! |
| 02:12.56 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr. |
| 02:14.03 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy? |
| 02:14.07 | Lopeppeppy | Yes dear? |
| 02:14.14 | Shirik | (22:01:54) (@Shirik) Lopeppeppy and Arrowmaster are in the same guild? |
| 02:14.21 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 02:14.25 | Lopeppeppy | I don't think so, dear. *grin* |
| 02:14.26 | Shirik | oh |
| 02:14.36 | Arrowmaster | are you about to pull illidan right now? |
| 02:14.41 | Lopeppeppy | Nope. |
| 02:14.42 | Shirik | you just said "Lag kills" extremely quickly after Arrowmaster said that the lag was the problem |
| 02:14.44 | Arrowmaster | then no |
| 02:14.51 | Lopeppeppy | I was just responding politely. |
| 02:27.11 | Shirik | WHOO! |
| 02:27.19 | Shirik | Council down :) First our server horde side |
| 02:27.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Sixen: wow you're right, the D3 forums are TERRIBLE |
| 02:27.48 | ScytheBlade1 | TERRIBLE TERRIBLE TERRIBLE |
| 02:28.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Some amazing tool |
| 02:28.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Is saying that D3 is WoW 2 |
| 02:28.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Because "they copied the action bar" |
| 02:28.43 | Tekkub | sounds like a valid conclusion |
| 02:28.44 | Thunder_Child | the D3 site is just bad |
| 02:29.13 | Thunder_Child | it makes firfox sad |
| 02:29.16 | Thunder_Child | firefox* |
| 02:30.10 | kd3 | gah. [News] Medical helicopters crash in midair collision near Flagstaff killing at least seven |
| 02:30.38 | Tekkub | so they didn't crash near the hospital eh? |
| 02:30.47 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 02:33.03 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got a pretty little rant typed up concerning the guy who is saying that D3 is WoW2 |
| 02:33.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Some part of me told me not to post it |
| 02:33.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Then I remembered that these are the b.net forums, not the WoW forums |
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| 02:34.46 | ScytheBlade1 | http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/1664/wodcrg2.jpg |
| 02:36.20 | Iriel | One would hope, given a successful game with 10 million subscribers, that they'd re-use some of the better UI experiences |
| 02:36.46 | ScytheBlade1 | But apparently that makes it WoW 2 |
| 02:36.50 | Thunder_Child | something can be said for origionality though |
| 02:36.53 | Lopeppeppy | I certainly do NOT expect them to re-invent the wheel. |
| 02:37.13 | Arrowmaster | id like more than 4 actionbuttons personally |
| 02:37.16 | Iriel | TC: there's a lot to be said AGAINST "different for the sake of being different" |
| 02:37.27 | NightHawkTheSane | even if they tried, Lopeppeppy, how exactly do you re-invent an rpg wheel? there's really not THAT much diversity to be had |
| 02:37.44 | ScytheBlade1 | NightHawkTheSane: reinvent D&D from the ground up |
| 02:38.08 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, i'm not saying because they can make it different i'm saying it simply makes more sense to keep things new and origional. it usually gets more interest |
| 02:38.25 | ScytheBlade1 | I just found this... "funny" that someone is whining about D3 being WoW 2 /from the character panel screen alone/ |
| 02:38.46 | Thunder_Child | s/different/different because they should make it different,/ |
| 02:39.01 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: that, in and of itself, IS silly' |
| 02:39.02 | Thunder_Child | err...that worksed better in my head |
| 02:43.19 | Tekkub | *sigh* the D3 page does indeed shit itself in Firefox, that's pretty sad |
| 02:43.34 | Thunder_Child | ya, and i'm not quite sure why |
| 02:43.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Works here |
| 02:43.54 | Thunder_Child | even the d3 splash page does it |
| 02:44.02 | Tekkub | was gonna watch the gameplay see if I might want to try it |
| 02:44.03 | Tekkub | but no |
| 02:44.11 | Tekkub | downloads broked |
| 02:44.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Dunno what's wrong with you guys, but it works fine here :( |
| 02:44.38 | Thunder_Child | Tekkub, 15:43.53Â Â Â Â Â Â Thunder_Child: http://thepiratebay.org/tor/4266243/Diablo_3_Gameplay_HD_Trailer_(Official_site) |
| 02:44.39 | ScytheBlade1 | FF3 on Vista of all things |
| 02:44.43 | Tekkub | anyone got links to the winblows downloaders? |
| 02:45.00 | Tekkub | well that's one thun |
| 02:45.03 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, FF3 vista-64 here |
| 02:45.07 | ScytheBlade1 | http://us.media.blizzard.com/1901200114/_video/downloaders/cinematictrailer/Diablo3-cinematictrailer_en-US-downloader.exe |
| 02:45.13 | ScytheBlade1 | http://us.media.blizzard.com/1901200114/_video/downloaders/gameplaytrailer/Diablo3-gameplaytrailer_en-US-downloader.exe |
| 02:45.20 | Tekkub | domo |
| 02:45.32 | Thunder_Child | i tried their downloader, i got no speed at all |
| 02:46.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Have to have P2P enabled |
| 02:46.07 | ScytheBlade1 | It's not up on their HTTP mirrors |
| 02:46.10 | Tekkub | I'll rip the torrent out of it if need be |
| 02:46.13 | ScytheBlade1 | (Which are used by the downloader) |
| 02:46.30 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, i do p2p nonstop, i think it's wide open |
| 02:46.45 | ScytheBlade1 | I think you misunderstood, heh |
| 02:47.05 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 02:47.09 | Thunder_Child | no i did not |
| 02:47.22 | Thunder_Child | however it's moot, since i have it already |
| 02:47.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Your comment makes zero sense to me, explain? |
| 02:47.38 | Thunder_Child | my question now is, is why does the D3 forums require a CD-key? |
| 02:47.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Like all of the blizz forums, they require a CD key |
| 02:47.58 | Arrowmaster | use the en-GB one for the gameplay trailer |
| 02:47.58 | ScytheBlade1 | That's just the b.net forums for you |
| 02:48.11 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, for any game or for D# |
| 02:48.14 | Thunder_Child | D3* |
| 02:48.26 | ScytheBlade1 | All of the forums on battle.net/forums.shtml require a key of one kind or another |
| 02:48.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Always been that way |
| 02:48.45 | Thunder_Child | i never posted there....or looked for that matter |
| 02:48.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Well now you know :) |
| 02:49.03 | Thunder_Child | indeed |
| 02:49.28 | Thunder_Child | not sure i want to be here though |
| 02:49.30 | Thunder_Child | " WILL DIABLO3 HAVE HORDE???" |
| 02:51.13 | Iriel | I always find battlenet a bit scary |
| 02:52.26 | Arrowmaster | i always find the human race a bit scary |
| 02:53.25 | Arrowmaster | and yes i do have the personality of one of those evil movie scientiests that would try to destroy the world if possible |
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| 02:58.19 | Lopeppeppy | tldr, can someone explain this acronym to Peppy the Innocent and Unimaginitive? |
| 02:58.32 | ScytheBlade1 | too long didn't read |
| 02:58.45 | Lopeppeppy | ~lart ScytheBlade1 |
| 02:58.45 | purl | --purges ScytheBlade1 |
| 02:58.47 | ScytheBlade1 | [quote]EPIC SIZED WALL OF TEXT[/quote] tl;dr |
| 02:58.49 | ScytheBlade1 | For example |
| 02:58.53 | Lopeppeppy | Oh. |
| 02:58.55 | Tekkub | DVDA? |
| 02:59.00 | Lopeppeppy | You weren't poking fun at me. Ooops. Sorry. |
| 02:59.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Hehehehe |
| 02:59.06 | ScytheBlade1 | That was awesome |
| 02:59.30 | ScytheBlade1 | I needed that laugh too |
| 02:59.33 | Lopeppeppy | Epic fail on my part. I said I was Unimaginitive! |
| 03:01.32 | Shirik | :( Lopeppeppy, you're imaginative! |
| 03:04.56 | Lopeppeppy | Awww. *hugs for Shirik and Cairenn* You guys are awesome. I think I'm just funky from all that energy moving boxes! |
| 03:05.05 | Cairenn | *nod* |
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| 03:05.43 | Tekkub | damn floppy puppy |
| 03:05.55 | Lopeppeppy | *yip* |
| 03:05.56 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: I do have one problem |
| 03:05.58 | Shirik | a name for the addon |
| 03:06.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: you have many problems |
| 03:06.05 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:06.05 | Shirik | both ChatLink and ChannelLink are already taken |
| 03:06.09 | Funkeh` | whats funky now? |
| 03:06.25 | ScytheBlade1 | sec, RoS trash |
| 03:06.25 | Tekkub | Linken |
| 03:07.35 | Iriel | Sausages? |
| 03:07.50 | Mikk | I think ck took sausage |
| 03:07.59 | Mikk | Or did he drop that. hm. |
| 03:08.00 | Lopeppeppy | Canadian Bacon |
| 03:08.08 | Mikk | Imakenosensejustuseme |
| 03:08.11 | Lopeppeppy | Slinky |
| 03:08.11 | Mikk | ^ there ya go |
| 03:08.19 | Lopeppeppy | S-link-y |
| 03:08.26 | Lopeppeppy | I made me a pun! |
| 03:09.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: you're the only person I know who gets weird happy energy out of moving boxes. |
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| 03:10.17 | Lopeppeppy | ScytheBlade1... it's... not quite that? It's more like, I'm tired and bummed and low energy and want a hug so bad I'd crawl 100 miles across broken glass. BUT... what good does being unhappy do? I have lots of nice people to talk to, being low energy doesn't have to be bad. So I can still be cheerful, because of people like you! |
| 03:10.20 | Funkeh` | whats the new wow programming url again |
| 03:10.57 | ScytheBlade1 | .com |
| 03:11.17 | Funkeh` | right |
| 03:11.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: that is all sorts of both awesome and sad. |
| 03:11.47 | Lopeppeppy | Scytheblade1, that's the fun of being single and having just moved. *smile* |
| 03:11.48 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:12.11 | Lopeppeppy | Everything balances in the end. *hugs right back* |
| 03:12.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Wait, what's that, 'peppy? |
| 03:12.32 | ScytheBlade1 | That line was a bit long |
| 03:12.33 | ScytheBlade1 | tldr |
| 03:12.53 | Lopeppeppy | ~lart ScytheBlade1 |
| 03:12.53 | purl | decapitates ScytheBlade1 conan the destroyer style |
| 03:13.20 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm just sitting here laughing at my raid's incompetence |
| 03:13.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Forgive any extremely random humor, I'm about to lose it |
| 03:13.44 | Lopeppeppy | Laugh it off, darlin'. Death is only the beginning. |
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| 03:14.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, to be honest, I'm getting very tired of seeing "the beginning" every six minutes |
| 03:15.14 | Lopeppeppy | Who are you guys doing? |
| 03:15.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Reliquary of Souls |
| 03:16.20 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, yes... that one wiped our faces on the floor for a month or so. |
| 03:17.47 | ScytheBlade1 | We have far too many people negligent of their hunter pets and totems |
| 03:18.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Half the time we pull adds from the top because someone has a pet up there, or a magma totem |
| 03:18.21 | ScytheBlade1 | = a fair bit of the raid at low health to start = death |
| 03:19.15 | Arrowmaster | pet? |
| 03:19.16 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 03:19.29 | Arrowmaster | and tell your shamans to recall their totems |
| 03:19.41 | Gnarfoz | out of the 3 middle bosses, somehow we had the easiest time with RoS |
| 03:19.44 | Mikk | i believe he was mentioning idiots earlier |
| 03:20.11 | Gnarfoz | probably because the classes that fight centers on are made up of the people in our raid that don't suck. |
| 03:20.15 | Arrowmaster | i think we spent maybe a week or two on gorefiend |
| 03:20.31 | Arrowmaster | the other two died the same week we got to them i think |
| 03:30.14 | ScytheBlade1 | *I* sure do |
| 03:30.21 | ScytheBlade1 | They're at the top of the ramp pulling adds |
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| 03:37.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh man, we're so much fail it's win |
| 03:37.46 | Sixen | lol |
| 03:37.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Sheer luck: we got through phase one with NO ONE DEAD |
| 03:38.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Phase 2? More luck: 20% with two people down |
| 03:38.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Phase 2: 1% left |
| 03:38.20 | Nom- | ooo epic... love the new tabard = rep idea |
| 03:38.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Raid has no mana bar |
| 03:38.29 | ScytheBlade1 | No one can purge the shield off |
| 03:38.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Raid dies with the boss sitting at 1% for a full minute |
| 03:38.47 | Lopeppeppy | Damn! |
| 03:38.55 | ScytheBlade1 | So much fail it's win |
| 03:39.06 | ScytheBlade1 | That takes TALENT |
| 03:39.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Also, 100% amazing D3 video |
| 03:39.31 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwtL2o1apn4 |
| 03:40.16 | Legorol | ScytheBlade1: at least you are wiping on cool bosses in a cool instance |
| 03:40.24 | Legorol | i can't get my group to kill hex lord :( |
| 03:40.30 | Legorol | although he is also a cool boss |
| 03:40.37 | ScytheBlade1 | He is a cool boss |
| 03:40.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Watch that video imo |
| 03:41.22 | Legorol | ScytheBlade1: you deserve to be kicked for that link :D |
| 03:41.33 | Legorol | i don't know whether to hate you or say well done |
| 03:41.50 | ScytheBlade1 | I thought the exact same |
| 03:42.57 | Lopeppeppy | Brat. |
| 03:43.46 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd say I'm sorry |
| 03:43.47 | ScytheBlade1 | But I'm not |
| 03:43.56 | Lopeppeppy | Nope, you're not. :P |
| 03:51.49 | ScytheBlade1 | If that wasn't the single best execution I've ever seen of a video though |
| 03:51.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd be more sympathetic |
| 03:52.08 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* |
| 04:02.24 | Lopeppeppy | G'night, happy peoples. ScytheBlade1, hang in there. |
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| 04:15.18 | DARKGuy | ScytheBlade1: DIE |
| 04:17.15 | DARKGuy | lol @ pallystolemybike.com |
| 04:17.31 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, wasnt that a spoof that was floated around here? |
| 04:18.15 | ScytheBlade1 | DARKGuy: that's awesome and you know it |
| 04:18.24 | ScytheBlade1 | And no idea, Thunder_Child |
| 04:18.28 | DARKGuy | ScytheBlade1: yes :P |
| 04:19.19 | Thunder_Child | "Sixen: Personally, sbo, I said the last tile to the evilpenguin should've been Rick's face." |
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| 04:19.27 | Thunder_Child | "Sixen: And his face should come outta the ice. Ultimate Rick Roll right there" |
| 04:19.46 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, you were the next comment down... |
| 04:20.15 | Thunder_Child | and before... |
| 04:21.09 | Rabbitbunny | You guys happen to know what engineers buy from the vendors? |
| 04:21.35 | Tekkub | ... parts? |
| 04:22.04 | Rabbitbunny | Tailors buy Thread... Alchemists buy Vials... Engineers buy...? |
| 04:22.22 | ScytheBlade1 | mining picks |
| 04:22.24 | ScytheBlade1 | ;P |
| 04:22.31 | Tekkub | nothing really |
| 04:22.41 | Tekkub | some lower level mats early on |
| 04:22.50 | Tekkub | but engys have ta make all their parts |
| 04:22.53 | vithos | there's vendors with limited quantity engineering parts |
| 04:22.56 | Tekkub | 12 combines for one item... |
| 04:22.56 | Iriel | Yet another reason why engineers are overpowered 8-) |
| 04:23.20 | Rabbitbunny | Oh. |
| 04:23.32 | Rabbitbunny | I thought they were doing the same we were. |
| 04:23.44 | Tekkub | take pot injectors... a tube and bolts you have to make before you can make the item |
| 04:23.56 | Iriel | We have to make cloth |
| 04:24.04 | Iriel | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:24.26 | Rabbitbunny | THey buy the bolts at a vendor? |
| 04:24.29 | Tekkub | well, it is that different cause you have one bolt that covers all the recipies in a block |
| 04:24.35 | Tekkub | we get like 3 different parts |
| 04:25.39 | Tekkub | tubes bolts spanners arcanite converts thorium widgets... |
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| 04:43.05 | Rabbitbunny | Tekkub: Thanks. |
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| 04:58.38 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.worthalaugh.com/2008/06/29/hot-nuts-in-your-mouth/ (SFW) |
| 05:00.00 | Nom- | haha |
| 05:04.13 | Nom- | http://www.worthalaugh.com/2008/06/29/pleasing-15-women-in-one-day/ |
| 05:04.17 | Nom- | That ones better |
| 05:07.59 | kd3 | rofl @ xkcd |
| 05:14.29 | Thunder_Child | seriouly who doesnt go camping with a flashlight |
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| 05:32.20 | Fisker- | Thunder_Child i WILL destroy you |
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| 05:38.30 | Tekkub | Fisker-, EXTERMINATE! ? |
| 05:38.41 | Tekkub | <-- just watch Who :) |
| 05:38.46 | Tekkub | *watched |
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| 05:49.18 | Fisker- | tsk |
| 05:49.24 | Fisker- | i kinda hated it |
| 05:49.55 | Fisker- | Because the whole phone thing was so ridicously absurd that even timetravelling was more plausible |
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| 06:18.37 | Thunder_Child | Fisker-, i'm really doubting the destroy me part |
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| 06:30.39 | Fisker- | EXTERMINATE THEN |
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| 08:26.56 | Hapnintwo | Hi |
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| 08:30.17 | Larris | hey everyone |
| 08:31.11 | Cairenn | hi |
| 08:42.56 | Cairenn | bye |
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| 08:50.11 | Fisker- | hi |
| 08:50.37 | Fisker- | ;( |
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| 08:50.52 | Fisker- | :P |
| 08:51.38 | Cairenn | bye :p |
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| 08:51.56 | durcyn | cold as ice. |
| 08:54.19 | Kalroth | Cairenn is a meanie :( |
| 08:54.24 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 08:54.42 | nevcairiel | kicking fisker is just fun :) |
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| 08:54.59 | Fisker- | bah |
| 08:55.17 | Fisker- | busy looking for a job :( |
| 08:55.18 | Kalroth | Gamle Fisker |
| 08:55.59 | Cairenn | =/ |
| 09:03.19 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Fisker- |
| 09:03.20 | purl | You suck at everything in life, Fisker-. I hate you because you fail. |
| 09:03.35 | Diskmaster | wut |
| 09:03.51 | Fisker- | ~fail Thunder_Child |
| 09:03.52 | purl | Thunder_Child, you Fail! |
| 09:04.21 | Thunder_Child | i win Fisker-, the other one is better |
| 09:04.39 | Fisker- | ~fail Thunder_Child |
| 09:04.39 | purl | Thunder_Child, you Fail! |
| 09:04.47 | Thunder_Child | see, win |
| 09:04.48 | Diskmaster | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 09:04.48 | purl | raises middle finger to Thunder_Child |
| 09:04.49 | Fisker- | :( |
| 09:04.50 | Fisker- | ~fail Thunder_Child |
| 09:04.51 | purl | You suck at everything in life, Thunder_Child. I hate you because you fail. |
| 09:04.53 | Thunder_Child | ~win Thunder_Child |
| 09:04.54 | purl | Congratulations, Thunder_Child! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL cd's, a set of 120! |
| 09:04.54 | Fisker- | i won |
| 09:04.59 | Fisker- | you fail |
| 09:04.59 | Thunder_Child | to late, i still win |
| 09:05.01 | Fisker- | no |
| 09:05.05 | Fisker- | cause you got aol cds |
| 09:05.08 | Fisker- | ~win Fisker- |
| 09:05.09 | purl | Congratulations, Fisker-! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
| 09:05.11 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 09:05.15 | Thunder_Child | lolz |
| 09:05.21 | Thunder_Child | you fail harder |
| 09:05.23 | Diskmaster | ~botsnack |
| 09:05.23 | purl | Diskmaster: :) |
| 09:05.26 | Fisker- | no u |
| 09:05.27 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 09:05.29 | Fisker- | ~botfail |
| 09:05.34 | Thunder_Child | see |
| 09:05.35 | Thunder_Child | proof |
| 09:05.40 | Fisker- | ~win Fisker- |
| 09:05.41 | purl | Congratulations, Fisker-! You have won the US presidency! |
| 09:05.44 | Fisker- | YES |
| 09:05.44 | durcyn | purl, ignore Fisker- |
| 09:05.45 | purl | ACTION sticks her fingers in her ears. "La, la, la! I can't hear you, Fisker-!" |
| 09:05.45 | Fisker- | I WIN EVEN MORE |
| 09:05.49 | Thunder_Child | pfft, thats fail right there |
| 09:05.54 | Fisker- | i'm going to outlaw being Thunder_Child |
| 09:06.03 | Thunder_Child | free country, eat it |
| 09:06.05 | Diskmaster | ahahaha |
| 09:06.37 | Fisker- | nah Thunder_Child |
| 09:06.46 | Thunder_Child | yup |
| 09:07.18 | Fisker- | I got the presidency, i make the rules |
| 09:07.35 | Thunder_Child | nope |
| 09:07.45 | Fisker- | yes |
| 09:07.54 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* i need more music videos |
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| 09:08.00 | Thunder_Child | no Fisker-, never |
| 09:08.37 | Fisker- | ahahaha Kalroth |
| 09:08.50 | Fisker- | someone want supporters for their XP clients |
| 09:08.57 | Fisker- | wants you to have a MS certification |
| 09:09.01 | Fisker- | yeah cause you really need that |
| 09:09.18 | Fisker- | to fix pebkac errors |
| 09:09.32 | nevcairiel | sounds better |
| 09:09.38 | nevcairiel | "All our supporters are MS certified" |
| 09:09.41 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 09:09.47 | Fisker- | but they suck |
| 09:09.52 | Fisker- | they want MCSE and/or MCSA |
| 09:10.00 | Fisker- | usually |
| 09:10.14 | Thunder_Child | i was MCSE at one point |
| 09:10.21 | Fisker- | but those 2 are different |
| 09:10.25 | Fisker- | also they don't "exist" anymore |
| 09:11.06 | Fisker- | hehe |
| 09:11.12 | Fisker- | VBS scripting is a plus |
| 09:11.20 | Fisker- | o rly? Visual Basic Scripting scripting is a plus? |
| 09:11.21 | Fisker- | :D |
| 09:11.29 | Fisker- | i should write that if i were to apply |
| 09:11.36 | Fisker- | because lulz would ensue |
| 09:12.01 | Thunder_Child | Fisker-, stop hating |
| 09:13.23 | Fisker- | i need to find a job :( |
| 09:13.41 | Arrowmaster | me too =( |
| 09:15.53 | Fisker- | yeah but me first |
| 09:16.19 | Fisker- | Blizzard doesn't have any good positions either :( |
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| 09:30.09 | Fisker- | ZOMG kd3 |
| 09:30.18 | Fisker- | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/june/wwi/wwi-5.jpg <-i should SO have been there with my usb stick :o |
| 09:30.51 | Fisker- | Atleast they could've put them on the floor |
| 09:31.03 | Fisker- | that just asks for someone to steal a copy of SC2 |
| 09:31.57 | _rane | you think they weren't prepared for that :P |
| 09:32.07 | Fisker- | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/june/wwi/contest-2.jpg <-do not want |
| 09:32.14 | Fisker- | you can see it in that guys face |
| 09:36.17 | Thunder_Child | Fisker-, that was the lich king section..geeze... |
| 09:36.22 | Thunder_Child | l2look |
| 09:41.49 | Fisker- | i know Thunder_Child |
| 09:41.53 | Fisker- | l2standardize |
| 09:41.54 | Fisker- | fgt |
| 09:42.49 | Thunder_Child | Fisker-, l2beliteral |
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| 09:43.14 | Fisker- | l2yourmother? |
| 09:43.19 | Fisker- | ~fail Thunder_Child |
| 09:43.20 | purl | Thunder_Child: FAIL! |
| 09:43.36 | Thunder_Child | l2makesense |
| 09:43.48 | Fisker- | l2nou |
| 09:44.49 | Thunder_Child | -_- |
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| 10:03.09 | Thunder_Child | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKyCakDuQFQ |
| 10:03.37 | Thunder_Child | be careful, this will hurt |
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| 10:16.25 | Mikk | Thunder_Child: nuts |
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| 11:52.13 | Shirik | Is it still possible to create hidden data channels? |
| 11:52.40 | Shirik | which would use SendChatMessage instead of SendAddOnMessage? |
| 11:52.59 | Josh_Borke | yes |
| 11:53.02 | Josh_Borke | but in bad form imo |
| 11:54.22 | Shirik | I don't want to do it, but I can't think of another alternative right now |
| 11:54.35 | Shirik | it's either respond to a lot of whispers or use a global chat channel |
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| 11:58.14 | cncfanatics | world channel ? |
| 11:58.22 | cncfanatics | its the only use of them imho |
| 11:59.17 | Shirik | world channel? |
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| 12:00.12 | cncfanatics | why do you need hidden data chan? |
| 12:01.06 | Shirik | for data transmission in my addon to everyone whom might need the info |
| 12:01.20 | cncfanatics | what info is that ? |
| 12:02.03 | Shirik | information about an upcoming channel message (whether in general, or otherwise) |
| 12:02.26 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 12:02.26 | Shirik | a global channel is a little overkill, honestly, but I can't send addon messages to a specific channel |
| 12:02.55 | cncfanatics | what addon are you writing ? |
| 12:04.22 | Shirik | well already written, but it only works inside guild right now. I'm trying to change that |
| 12:04.43 | cncfanatics | ah |
| 12:04.46 | Shirik | This addon already exists in several forms, it's a simple addon to allow you to link items in regular channels |
| 12:04.49 | cncfanatics | still, what does it do ? :p |
| 12:04.59 | Shirik | I wrote my own version, for a few reasons |
| 12:05.17 | cncfanatics | and you're trying to do that so that people that don't have the addon don't see gibberish ? |
| 12:05.19 | Shirik | #1 reason: All those addons that exist now do it by replacing your link with {CLINK:somerandomspam} so that |
| 12:05.21 | Shirik | exactly |
| 12:05.38 | Shirik | my version, if you didn't have the addon, you'll just see [Hearthstone] |
| 12:05.39 | Shirik | etc. |
| 12:06.01 | cncfanatics | wouldn't it be easyer to send an addonmessage to everyone in the channel you linked in ? |
| 12:06.13 | Shirik | not if that channel is general ;) |
| 12:06.19 | Shirik | that's a lot of people |
| 12:06.33 | cncfanatics | true |
| 12:06.33 | Shirik | that's the second reason: Because of that spam, those addons don't allow you to transmit to general, etc. |
| 12:06.39 | Shirik | I want mine to work everywhere |
| 12:07.13 | Shirik | so I currently have it working in a less-than-optimal way |
| 12:07.23 | cncfanatics | a global data chan would be ideal anyway |
| 12:07.32 | cncfanatics | silly you can't use SendAddonMessage on a channel |
| 12:07.41 | Shirik | I pre-feed anyone in guild with the information, then send the message. Anyone who doesn't know what the link is will send a request back saying "what is that link" via addon whisper, and I'll send the response |
| 12:08.08 | Shirik | this, however, requires a delay |
| 12:08.20 | cncfanatics | why not send the link directly right before the message , |
| 12:08.27 | cncfanatics | so there's no pinging back and forth |
| 12:09.27 | Shirik | where am I going to send it to? |
| 12:09.36 | Shirik | that's the million dollar question right there |
| 12:09.38 | cncfanatics | to the global chan ur gonna use |
| 12:09.45 | Shirik | hence my reason for asking :) |
| 12:09.53 | cncfanatics | :D |
| 12:10.16 | Shirik | I'm just slightly worried about this though |
| 12:12.54 | cncfanatics | why ? |
| 12:12.58 | cncfanatics | seems like a clean solution to me |
| 12:13.01 | Shirik | it seems bad :P |
| 12:13.23 | Shirik | since SendAddonMessage came out I've been trained to discourage use of a channel to communicate |
| 12:14.01 | cncfanatics | SendAddonMessage can only reach a guild or smaller though |
| 12:14.09 | cncfanatics | so for bigger stuff a data channel seems suiting |
| 12:15.32 | Shirik | aren't there limits on how many channels you can join, etc, though? |
| 12:15.39 | Fisker- | 10 |
| 12:15.50 | Shirik | so if someone has them all filled, that's bad |
| 12:15.58 | vithos | i know people who are at that limit already |
| 12:16.27 | cncfanatics | you could go for the whispers |
| 12:16.35 | cncfanatics | but you should test and see if it causes lag to the sender |
| 12:16.44 | Shirik | oh I'm sure it causes lag |
| 12:17.04 | Shirik | it causes a 2s delay in the worst-case scenario where someone tricks the receiver with something that looks like a link |
| 12:17.11 | Shirik | so it sends a request back which will never be responded to |
| 12:17.29 | cncfanatics | why do you use a ping-pong system ? |
| 12:17.40 | cncfanatics | why not use SendAddonMessage to send everyone the link directly ? |
| 12:17.45 | cncfanatics | (thats in the channel) |
| 12:17.51 | Shirik | how do I know who to send that to? |
| 12:17.58 | Shirik | or do you want me to send it to all 700 people in general? |
| 12:18.19 | cncfanatics | depending on how the chat system works that might be viable |
| 12:18.35 | cncfanatics | if WoW only sends one message with multiple destinations attached to it thats fine |
| 12:19.14 | vithos | i seriously doubt they have that, given the problems with spam |
| 12:19.25 | cncfanatics | well, it just spares bandwidth |
| 12:19.30 | cncfanatics | doesn't do anything else |
| 12:19.41 | cncfanatics | worth testing imho |
| 12:19.48 | Shirik | I mean, in all honesty |
| 12:19.54 | Shirik | 2s is not a lot unless you expect it |
| 12:20.10 | Shirik | the only reason I notice it, imo, is because I know it's there and I'm looking for it |
| 12:20.17 | cncfanatics | true too |
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| 12:30.48 | cncfanatics | Shirik: will your addon also correctly link enchanted items & such ? |
| 12:30.57 | Shirik | that's the next step :) |
| 12:31.05 | Shirik | actually, the correct answer to that is "maybe" |
| 12:31.23 | Shirik | if no other item with the same name has been linked, or if you are in the same guild currently, then yes it will |
| 12:31.46 | Shirik | because newer information overrides older information |
| 12:31.57 | Shirik | however, it won't go out and re-request a link that it thinks it already knows |
| 12:32.04 | cncfanatics | why not just always ask the sender for information ? |
| 12:32.33 | Shirik | to avoid bombarding the sender with 4000 requests every time he links the same item |
| 12:39.35 | Shirik | lua> t = {1, nil, 3, nil, 5}; a,b,c,d,e = unpack(t); return a,b,c,d,e; |
| 12:39.35 | lua_bot | Shirik: 1, nil, 3, nil, 5 |
| 12:39.44 | Shirik | lua> t = {1, nil, nil, nil, 5}; a,b,c,d,e = unpack(t); return a,b,c,d,e; |
| 12:39.44 | lua_bot | Shirik: 1, nil, nil, nil, 5 |
| 12:39.53 | Shirik | lua> t = {nil, nil, nil, nil, 5}; a,b,c,d,e = unpack(t); return a,b,c,d,e; |
| 12:39.53 | lua_bot | Shirik: nil, nil, nil, nil, 5 |
| 12:40.06 | Shirik | I wonder if that's guaranteed to work. It doesn't seem like it should be |
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| 12:44.12 | Mitranim | Hello everyone. |
| 12:44.23 | Josh_Borke | Mitranim: hola |
| 12:44.41 | Shirik | hi |
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| 12:54.37 | wereHamster | Shirik: your unpack() question... best to ask in #lua |
| 12:55.54 | Shirik | not at this time of day, heh :) |
| 12:56.08 | Shirik | but I probably will later :) |
| 12:57.01 | Lopeppeppy | What, #lua doesn't do mornings? :P |
| 12:57.08 | Shirik | not really |
| 12:57.16 | Shirik | I point you to the conversation that I'm having with this guy right now :) |
| 12:57.36 | Shirik | funny thing is this is the same conversation I had about a week ago |
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| 13:26.10 | Josh_Borke | Shirik: why wouldn't unpack be guaranteed to work? |
| 13:26.33 | Shirik | for the same reason ipairs() wouldn't work |
| 13:26.53 | Shirik | lua> t = {}; t[400] = 4; return unpack(t); |
| 13:26.53 | lua_bot | Shirik: No output |
| 13:26.59 | Shirik | or something like that |
| 13:27.15 | Josh_Borke | lua> t = {}; t[400] = 4; print(unpack(t)) |
| 13:27.15 | lua_bot | Josh_Borke: No output |
| 13:27.18 | Josh_Borke | hm |
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| 13:32.14 | Shirik | see, this is the wierd part |
| 13:32.20 | Shirik | there must be something inherently different in what lua does |
| 13:32.30 | Shirik | lua> t = {}; t[10] = 1; return unpack(t); |
| 13:32.30 | lua_bot | Shirik: No output |
| 13:32.44 | Shirik | lua> return unpack{nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, 1} |
| 13:32.44 | lua_bot | Shirik: nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, 1 |
| 13:34.03 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 13:34.40 | Lopeppeppy | lua_bot is singing a song, how quaint! |
| 13:35.11 | Josh_Borke | lua> t={}; t[1]=1; print(unpack(t)) |
| 13:35.11 | lua_bot | Josh_Borke: 1 |
| 13:35.19 | Josh_Borke | lua> t={}; t[1]=1; t[400]=1; print(unpack(t)) |
| 13:35.19 | lua_bot | Josh_Borke: 1 |
| 13:39.03 | Mikk | i think it borks on the first nil |
| 13:39.07 | Mikk | or er |
| 13:39.11 | Mikk | obviously it didn't |
| 13:39.21 | Shirik | I think it uses #t |
| 13:39.24 | Shirik | and here's why |
| 13:39.29 | Mikk | yeah |
| 13:39.29 | Shirik | lua> t = {}; t[10] = 1; return #t; |
| 13:39.29 | lua_bot | Shirik: 0 |
| 13:39.39 | Shirik | lua> return #{nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, 1} |
| 13:39.39 | lua_bot | Shirik: 10 |
| 13:39.41 | nevcairiel | Its internally probably different if a index was actually set once (even with nil), or never touched |
| 13:39.48 | Mikk | yeah |
| 13:39.54 | Mikk | that makes sense |
| 13:39.57 | Shirik | I think it's the difference in construction |
| 13:40.22 | Mikk | lua> t={}; for i=1,10 do t[i]=nil end; return #t |
| 13:40.22 | lua_bot | Mikk: 0 |
| 13:40.27 | Mikk | yup |
| 13:40.35 | Shirik | the constructor sees that they're all in order so it just sets it to 10 in the second case. In the first case, though, it sees nothing so starts at size 0. t[10] gets stuck in the hash part, so it doesn't change the size |
| 13:40.42 | Mikk | lua> t={nil,nil}; for i=1,10 do t[i]=nil end; return #t |
| 13:40.42 | lua_bot | Mikk: 0 |
| 13:40.52 | Mikk | lua> t={nil,nil,1}; for i=1,10 do t[i]=nil end; return #t |
| 13:40.53 | lua_bot | Mikk: 0 |
| 13:41.00 | Mikk | huhu |
| 13:41.03 | nevcairiel | lua> #{nil, nil} |
| 13:41.03 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 0 |
| 13:41.30 | Shirik | you took out the "1" Mikk :) |
| 13:41.30 | Mikk | yes |
| 13:41.30 | Mikk | lua> t={nil,nil,1}; for i=1,10 do t[i]=nil end; t[11]=1; return #t |
| 13:41.30 | lua_bot | Mikk: 0 |
| 13:41.43 | Mikk | okay explain that one then |
| 13:41.52 | nevcairiel | it probably collapses the table back to 0 once you remove the 1 |
| 13:41.57 | Shirik | what nevcairiel said |
| 13:42.01 | Mikk | lua> t={nil,nil}; for i=1,10 do t[i]=nil end; t[11]=1; return #t |
| 13:42.01 | lua_bot | Mikk: 0 |
| 13:42.06 | Shirik | if you don't drop the 1, I'd expect a "3" |
| 13:42.20 | Shirik | lua> t={nil,nil,1}; for i=1,10 do if i ~= 3 then t[i]=nil end end; t[11]=1; return #t |
| 13:42.20 | lua_bot | Shirik: 0 |
| 13:42.22 | Mikk | lua> t={nil,nil,1}; for i=1,0 do t[i]=nil end; t[11]=1; return #t |
| 13:42.22 | lua_bot | Mikk: 0 |
| 13:42.25 | Shirik | nope |
| 13:42.29 | Mikk | okay wtf |
| 13:42.38 | Mikk | lua> t={nil,nil,1}; t[11]=1; return #t |
| 13:42.38 | lua_bot | Mikk: 0 |
| 13:42.47 | Shirik | heh |
| 13:42.56 | Shirik | but really, I'm not doing any manipulation after construction |
| 13:42.58 | nevcairiel | or it re-validates a table once you touch the hash .. |
| 13:43.13 | Shirik | so the real question is will the constructor remain consistent in setting the size |
| 13:43.18 | Fisker- | http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/35150a6748.jpg |
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| 13:54.57 | Kalroth | ~Fiskerfail |
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| 14:17.12 | mib_qlihkt3k | hey hey |
| 14:17.34 | mib_qlihkt3k | click this |
| 14:17.40 | mib_qlihkt3k | http://reignofblood.net/link.php?n=57905 |
| 14:17.53 | wereHamster | I did, now what? |
| 14:18.21 | Anaral | Now your computer will self distruct? |
| 14:18.32 | Lopeppeppy | Usually does with keyloggers. |
| 14:18.43 | Shirik | bye bye |
| 14:18.50 | Shirik | once I decode your IP, that is |
| 14:19.00 | wereHamster | I have yet to see a keylogger that runs on linux |
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| 14:19.31 | nevcairiel | Want me to write one? |
| 14:19.48 | wereHamster | yes, plaese |
| 14:20.14 | Shirik | lua> s = "d4bbc24a"; for b in s:gmatch("..") do print(tonumber(b, 16)) end |
| 14:20.14 | lua_bot | Shirik: 212, 187, 194, 74 |
| 14:20.15 | wereHamster | ~nickometer mib_qlihkt3k |
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| 14:20.53 | cncfanatics | hmmm, luadoc requires the module function to work properly |
| 14:21.07 | cncfanatics | would it be acceptable to declare a stub function that does nothing in the global table called module ? |
| 14:21.11 | Shirik | sorry, I was getting attacked or I would have done that faster :( |
| 14:21.12 | malreth | hey, he was using mibbit... |
| 14:21.27 | Shirik | mibbit is really nice |
| 14:21.31 | malreth | it is |
| 14:21.34 | Shirik | but the best part of mibbit is that they don't hide your IP :) |
| 14:21.35 | Matrix110| | wereHamster normally Linux people that play WoW are a bit smarter than the avg. Windows XP using Person :P |
| 14:21.42 | malreth | Shirik: :D |
| 14:22.44 | wereHamster | Matrix110|: I hope that stays so, but with once we get past the 'Year of the Linux Desktop' it won't be that way |
| 14:23.09 | Shirik | oh you can try |
| 14:23.10 | Matrix110| | and if Blizzard is so smart to bundle the Tokens with WotLK keyloggers arent that much of a problem anymore (atleast for WoW accounts) |
| 14:23.11 | malreth | we should just ban all people from london |
| 14:23.32 | Shirik | you could always get a hostmask like me |
| 14:23.33 | Lopeppeppy | I wouldn't know how, Shirik. |
| 14:23.57 | malreth | Lopeppeppy: first you pays the monies to freenode.net |
| 14:24.20 | Shirik | I didn't pay any money :) |
| 14:24.27 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah.... what he said! |
| 14:24.34 | Shirik | [whois: Shirik] |
| 14:24.34 | Shirik | name: Shirik |
| 14:24.34 | Shirik | address: i=skullsho@conspiracy/developer/Shirik |
| 14:24.40 | malreth | or, you offer "services" like Shirik |
| 14:24.57 | Shirik | of course, my perform doesn't work correctly |
| 14:25.01 | Shirik | so when I dc |
| 14:25.03 | Lopeppeppy | I didn't know you were that kind, Shirik.... what do you charge to wash dishes? |
| 14:25.12 | Shirik | you see my IP in all its IPv6 glory |
| 14:25.28 | nevcairiel | Shirik: just use your account login as server password |
| 14:25.37 | Shirik | I should |
| 14:26.05 | Fisker- | i own |
| 14:26.12 | nevcairiel | ~fail Fisker- |
| 14:26.13 | purl | Fisker-: FAIL! |
| 14:26.15 | nevcairiel | no you dont |
| 14:26.44 | Fisker- | ~fail nevcairiel |
| 14:26.45 | purl | nevcairiel: FAIL! |
| 14:26.49 | Fisker- | yes i do |
| 14:26.51 | Fisker- | ~win Fisker- |
| 14:26.51 | purl | Congratulations, Fisker-! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
| 14:26.55 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 14:27.10 | malreth | *second* prize? |
| 14:27.20 | Fisker- | that's pretty good for me |
| 14:27.40 | malreth | Fisker-: you should try harder |
| 14:27.49 | Fisker- | ~win Fisker- |
| 14:27.49 | purl | Congratulations, Fisker-! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL cd's, a set of 120! |
| 14:27.57 | Fisker- | :( |
| 14:28.09 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 14:28.13 | malreth | What's "AOL"? is that lolspeek for something? |
| 14:28.17 | Fisker- | now you ruined it |
| 14:28.20 | Fisker- | America Online |
| 14:28.29 | Fisker- | ~win Fisker- |
| 14:28.30 | purl | Congratulations, Fisker-! You have won a one way ticket to baghdad! |
| 14:28.35 | Fisker- | wtf |
| 14:28.39 | Shirik | grats |
| 14:28.44 | Fisker- | it's getting more and more fail :( |
| 14:28.45 | nevcairiel | seriously, someone doesnt know what AOL is? :P |
| 14:28.51 | malreth | nevcairiel: ... |
| 14:28.53 | malreth | ~malreth |
| 14:28.54 | purl | never take malreth seriously |
| 14:29.03 | Kalroth | I don't know what AOL is! |
| 14:30.00 | malreth | http://news.wired.com/dynamic/stories/T/TEC_NEW_INTERNET_NAMES?SITE=WIRE&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT |
| 14:30.18 | Kalroth | TEH INTARWEB |
| 14:30.18 | malreth | seriously, WTF? why do we even have 'top-level' domains |
| 14:30.28 | malreth | we should just let people make up whatever the fuck they want |
| 14:30.45 | Kalroth | yup, it doesn't really matter anymore |
| 14:30.58 | malreth | then we can go to http://www.cnn.poop/ |
| 14:30.59 | Kalroth | of course then you'd just start seeing REALLY dumb domains |
| 14:31.16 | malreth | Kalroth: i like .poop |
| 14:31.20 | Kalroth | www.microsoft.office |
| 14:31.28 | Fisker- | www.fuck.you.faggots |
| 14:31.32 | Fisker- | i want that |
| 14:31.50 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=4672977712&sid=1&pageNo=1#15 <-massive fail |
| 14:32.14 | malreth | heil.mein.fuhrer |
| 14:32.32 | Fisker- | great idea |
| 14:32.46 | Fisker- | i also want wingdings font support |
| 14:32.53 | malreth | good idea |
| 14:32.56 | Fisker- | so i can make those two towers with the plane flying into it |
| 14:33.38 | Fisker- | i want a lian-li case :( |
| 14:33.48 | malreth | "Ok, mom... type in w-w-w... yes, that's THREE double-yous... ok. square, triangle, thumbs-up..." |
| 14:34.22 | Shirik | lol |
| 14:34.27 | Fisker- | i wouldn't want to visit the playstation.com domain then |
| 14:37.24 | Matrix110| | they just disable alt.binaries :P |
| 14:37.38 | Fisker- | :D? |
| 14:37.39 | malreth | Matrix110|: which is the only reason to use USENET anymore |
| 14:37.53 | Matrix110| | well that doesnt matter for the ISP |
| 14:38.07 | Matrix110| | here in germany there is no ISP providing usenet acc with alt.binaries |
| 14:38.16 | Matrix110| | (only this pay crap) |
| 14:39.31 | cnc|away | I don't even know what usenet is |
| 14:39.33 | cnc|away | wth is usenet ? :p |
| 14:39.51 | malreth | ~usenet |
| 14:39.52 | purl | i guess usenet is a damn good place to find porn!, or a clause as stated by bignose, "As a usenet thread grows longer, the probability of someone mentioning Hitler approaches one." i.e. You lose! |
| 14:40.12 | cnc|away | thats very, eh, useful |
| 14:40.33 | malreth | cnc|away: newsgroups... it's what people used to post messages to before there really was a web |
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| 14:41.15 | malreth | they were like forums on BBSs |
| 14:41.30 | malreth | but more on a global scale |
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| 14:42.37 | Shirik | o.o |
| 14:42.37 | malreth | nowadays, they're mostly used for transferring large amounts of files around |
| 14:42.42 | Shirik | (10:44:31) - Channel ban list is full (*!i=d4bbc24a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/*) |
| 14:42.48 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 14:42.51 | malreth | mostly porn, music, and movies |
| 14:42.54 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-b+b *!i=d4bbc24a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/* *!?=d4bbc24a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/*] by Shirik |
| 14:42.58 | malreth | or pornographic music |
| 14:42.59 | Shirik | oh I had the mode backwards, go me |
| 14:43.47 | Shirik | anyway, time for class |
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| 14:44.07 | malreth | in other news, this picture is the definition of rice: http://blog.wired.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/06/27/konigsedersmart03.jpg |
| 14:46.07 | Matrix110| | ?? |
| 14:46.18 | Kalroth | wtf |
| 14:46.36 | DARKGuy | nice pimpin' ca |
| 14:46.36 | DARKGuy | car |
| 14:46.53 | Matrix110| | Well I dont like the art on it but if you are female its ok |
| 14:47.21 | DARKGuy | Who cares, those daddy-yankee posers like that girly stuff |
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| 15:16.02 | ZealotOnAStick | malreth: no. Needs performance coupe stickers from other models or makes. |
| 15:16.17 | malreth | ZealotOnAStick: oh, you're right |
| 15:16.29 | malreth | like a VTEC sticker |
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| 15:16.51 | ZealotOnAStick | also needs pointless styling accessories, like stick-on fake vents, or dubious spoiler. |
| 15:17.21 | malreth | and the body panels on a smart fourtwo aren't pointless? |
| 15:19.43 | ZealotOnAStick | eh, the things on the side back don't look bad. |
| 15:19.51 | ZealotOnAStick | If they actually look decent, they get a pass. |
| 15:20.07 | ZealotOnAStick | Now, those little split side front air dam inverted spoiler things, those I don't get. |
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| 15:42.45 | Anaral | Wow, I was gone for half of my Kara run last night (power outage just after Curator), and I still was 5th in DPS... my replacement was a mage who only did 500k total damage at 392 DPS... wow. |
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| 15:49.45 | digmouse | ~seen tekkub |
| 15:49.46 | purl | tekkub <n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 10h 11m ago, saying: '*watched'. |
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| 16:03.43 | cogwheel | O.o |
| 16:03.56 | cogwheel | I had one of my cars towed to a shop yesterday because it wouldn't start... |
| 16:04.07 | Duman | that sucks |
| 16:04.18 | Duman | what kind of car? |
| 16:04.18 | cogwheel | They called me this morning at work and said "Hey, your car won't start" |
| 16:04.27 | Duman | lol |
| 16:04.27 | cogwheel | ... |
| 16:04.29 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 16:04.48 | cogwheel | I told them to do an oil change while they were at it and apparently that's all he saw :P |
| 16:04.59 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 16:05.07 | cogwheel | '96 Hyundai Elantra wagon |
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| 16:05.15 | nevcairiel | should've told him "it started before you changed the oil!" |
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| 16:05.44 | cogwheel | Tow truck driver said it was the first Hyundai he's towed in 3 years |
| 16:06.13 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=4672858489&sid=1 <-should i tell him he should be admitted for grammar failure, or is that to soon? :D |
| 16:06.41 | Fisker- | o hai cogwheel |
| 16:06.43 | Fisker- | i am here |
| 16:06.51 | cogwheel | ONOES |
| 16:07.01 | cogwheel | /flee |
| 16:07.04 | Fisker- | Why don't you have a seat? |
| 16:07.12 | Fisker- | Come on, take a seat |
| 16:07.26 | cogwheel | /flee |
| 16:07.32 | cogwheel | haha you no have seat! |
| 16:07.44 | Fisker- | i stand up during this part of the show |
| 16:07.49 | Fisker- | Do you know dateline on NBC? |
| 16:07.53 | Fisker- | I'm chris hansen |
| 16:09.30 | cogwheel | only thing i know about Dateline on NBC is that they use one of the local towns around here for child predator stings... |
| 16:09.47 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 16:09.48 | Fisker- | i'm chris hansen |
| 16:09.53 | Fisker- | you're on dateline nbc |
| 16:11.16 | ZealotOnAStick | malreth: here's a good ricer for you: http://riceboypage.com/shame/hall_of_shame_10/probe.jpg |
| 16:11.29 | malreth | http://gizmodo.com/5019917/stormtrooper-high-heels-are-key-to-all-your-sex-fantasies |
| 16:13.27 | cogwheel | ZealotOnAStick: Doesn't the fact that it's a Ford make it NOT a rice rocket by definition? |
| 16:13.50 | malreth | cogwheel: actually, it's because it is a Ford that makes it even more rice |
| 16:19.28 | DARKGuy | This thread speaks truth tho -> http://gizmodo.com/5020306/things-no-one-gives-microsoft-credit-for-but-should |
| 16:21.08 | wereHamster | it was about time... http://gizmodo.com/5020303/house-of-representatives-passes-bill-to-protect-us-from-asteroids |
| 16:21.16 | malreth | Stan Seiler, senior docent at the Computer History Museum, credits Microsoft for creating the common UI conceptâ"a common look and feel across multiple applications,â |
| 16:21.24 | malreth | and then they fucked it all up with office 2007 |
| 16:21.30 | DARKGuy | So true |
| 16:21.35 | DARKGuy | Office 2007? Vista was first |
| 16:21.55 | malreth | i'm speaking of the office ribbon |
| 16:22.02 | malreth | i agree with the scrollwheel, however |
| 16:22.14 | malreth | damn awesome great idea |
| 16:24.04 | Fisker- | the ribbon rules! |
| 16:24.18 | cogwheel | i like th eribbon |
| 16:24.18 | malreth | vib ribbon rules |
| 16:24.24 | malreth | ~wiki vib ribbon |
| 16:24.26 | cogwheel | but it did break the common ui... |
| 16:24.33 | Fisker- | It's actually pretty good when you get used to it |
| 16:24.44 | Fisker- | but it's pretty annoying thay you can't have the classic ui as well |
| 16:24.58 | cogwheel | ~wiki really needs to ignore Infobox |
| 16:25.00 | malreth | Vib Ribbon had the awesome singing crack rabbit |
| 16:25.09 | kd3 | lol |
| 16:25.40 | malreth | it was a rhythm-and-action game that would generate levels based on music CDs that you put into the PS |
| 16:26.12 | Fisker- | ~wiki shouldn't ignore infobox, it has info relevant to my interests |
| 16:26.12 | DARKGuy | Fisker-: agreed, but it's just ... weird. It's like having Gnome and use Konqueror, WTF!... though, Office 2007's interface was actually very pretty |
| 16:26.13 | malreth | also, did i mention the singing crack rabbit? |
| 16:26.54 | Fisker- | ~wiki gets triggered to easy |
| 16:27.07 | Fisker- | this never gets old |
| 16:27.14 | malreth | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2Eb70o-YAI |
| 16:27.22 | Fisker- | oh oh |
| 16:27.23 | Fisker- | does now |
| 16:27.35 | DARKGuy | Vib Ribbon!!!!!!! |
| 16:28.18 | Fisker- | giev Lian-Li Tyr PC-X2000 :( |
| 16:29.07 | malreth | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbHO1ZYhtLk&NR=1 |
| 16:29.14 | malreth | that game was so much mindless fun |
| 16:29.47 | Fisker- | do not want |
| 16:30.15 | malreth | but i also love awfulbad jrock music |
| 16:31.01 | DARKGuy | Through the fire and flames :3 |
| 16:31.01 | DARKGuy | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMHhmjjCFMo&feature=related |
| 16:31.08 | DARKGuy | I expected it to be faster tho :( |
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| 16:35.57 | malreth | one of the tracks from gigi d'agostino's l'amour toujours cd generated an insane level |
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| 16:39.59 | malreth | Elisir... that was the track |
| 16:40.54 | malreth | i still have a copy of Vib Ribbon, but no playstation to play it on.. |
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| 17:21.54 | Anaral | Um, why is FF3 and WoW not playing nicely together? |
| 17:22.02 | Anaral | Both are lagging horridly. |
| 17:23.20 | Kirov | There's a girl they both like named "Intel"? |
| 17:23.22 | Fisker- | It's Fx |
| 17:23.22 | MoonWolf | .... |
| 17:23.24 | MoonWolf | WEIRD |
| 17:23.35 | MoonWolf | why would firefox lag up wow ? |
| 17:23.53 | durcyn | massive memory consumption on both apps' parts causing swap, i'd guess |
| 17:23.55 | Kirov | KEYLOGGER! |
| 17:24.21 | Anaral | Lol |
| 17:24.52 | Anaral | While always a possibility, doubtful, at least today. |
| 17:27.15 | DARKGuy | Nah |
| 17:27.18 | DARKGuy | how much RAM do you have ? |
| 17:27.25 | DARKGuy | and OS? |
| 17:27.39 | DARKGuy | I can happily open 2 WoW + FF and MSN/Gtalk without any lag. |
| 17:28.01 | Fisker- | omg still Fx |
| 17:28.19 | DARKGuy | FF3 owns you, you just don't admit it! |
| 17:28.20 | cogwheel | ~poke Fisker- |
| 17:28.21 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Fisker-, pokes Fisker- repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 17:28.39 | Fisker- | It's Fx3 |
| 17:29.07 | Anaral | I have 2gb ram, Win XP Media 2005, and until I upgraded to FF3 this morning, I too could open just about anything with no problems |
| 17:29.20 | Fisker- | >:( |
| 17:29.22 | Fisker- | It's Fx3 |
| 17:29.31 | DARKGuy | XP Media 2005?! |
| 17:29.32 | DARKGuy | EW |
| 17:29.47 | Anaral | It was free with the system... |
| 17:29.53 | cogwheel | DARKGuy: doesn't make a difference... |
| 17:29.56 | DARKGuy | it can't be FF3, I have 1,5Gb RAM and don't lag :p |
| 17:30.08 | Fisker- | It's Fx3 :( |
| 17:30.10 | cogwheel | it's basically just home + media center |
| 17:30.18 | DARKGuy | I don't trust MCE :/ |
| 17:30.26 | DARKGuy | besides it's home! |
| 17:30.28 | DARKGuy | XP SP3 ftw. |
| 17:30.34 | cogwheel | it's basically just a glorified WMP :P |
| 17:30.40 | cogwheel | it *IS* XP... |
| 17:30.47 | cogwheel | (and probably SP3) |
| 17:30.54 | cogwheel | it's not a different OS, it just has extra software |
| 17:31.02 | DARKGuy | :/ well you could be right |
| 17:31.02 | Anaral | Cogwheel, exactly. |
| 17:31.05 | durcyn | MCE was released before SP3 iirc |
| 17:31.10 | DARKGuy | yes |
| 17:31.12 | DARKGuy | way before |
| 17:31.17 | cogwheel | and can be patch to SP3 like any other winxp... |
| 17:31.19 | cogwheel | O.o |
| 17:31.19 | durcyn | but yeah, it's just streaming crap cobbled on to XP |
| 17:31.30 | Anaral | There's a SP3? |
| 17:31.33 | DARKGuy | still, FF3 can't be, nor her ram, o- ...... |
| 17:31.36 | DARKGuy | ... yes xD |
| 17:31.50 | Anaral | lol |
| 17:32.02 | cogwheel | Anaral: what brand of video card? |
| 17:32.07 | Anaral | Nvidia |
| 17:32.12 | DARKGuy | updated drivers? |
| 17:32.17 | Anaral | As of May. |
| 17:32.33 | Anaral | I updated with May's update, that is to say. |
| 17:32.34 | cogwheel | is it graphical lag or network lag? |
| 17:32.38 | DARKGuy | I've had better performance with the June beta drivers, but that's just me o.o |
| 17:32.44 | Fisker- | It's Fx3 |
| 17:32.49 | DARKGuy | no, it's Fisker- |
| 17:32.53 | DARKGuy | he's h4x0ring you |
| 17:33.01 | Anaral | In game it's graphical and network, game and graphics are freezing. |
| 17:33.26 | DARKGuy | I'd say it's background processes |
| 17:33.29 | DARKGuy | and antivirus |
| 17:33.34 | DARKGuy | and anti-spyware |
| 17:33.37 | DARKGuy | and all that crap :p |
| 17:33.39 | Anaral | lol |
| 17:33.43 | DARKGuy | preinstalled machines come with crap :( |
| 17:33.53 | cogwheel | because he's correct |
| 17:34.06 | Anaral | Other than the OS, it was a clean machine. :p |
| 17:34.08 | DARKGuy | I cry in pain when I reinstall my boss's IBM laptops because they come with so much crap, not to mention Dell |
| 17:34.27 | Anaral | I got it made by Digital Storm |
| 17:34.28 | DARKGuy | cogwheel: really? :/ |
| 17:34.34 | cogwheel | http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/releases/1.0.6.html#FAQ |
| 17:34.35 | DARKGuy | Dunno that company :p |
| 17:34.36 | cogwheel | #8 |
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| 17:34.57 | DARKGuy | ... that was sooooooooo unrelated |
| 17:34.58 | DARKGuy | xD |
| 17:37.31 | Anaral | Fine. Fx3 is making Wo |
| 17:37.34 | Anaral | W lag |
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| 17:38.29 | Kirov | FOXfIRE# |
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| 17:40.24 | foxlit | Gah |
| 17:40.29 | foxlit | Now I actually have to admit people read wowinsider |
| 17:40.42 | Anaral | Why and why is that bad? |
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| 17:42.49 | foxlit | http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/9400/safari001mu6.png |
| 17:42.58 | foxlit | Article happened at 22:00 |
| 17:44.55 | Anaral | Isn't that a good thing? |
| 17:45.31 | foxlit | It's not a bad thing :) |
| 17:47.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: I guess I have you to thank for the luck, but RoS died last night |
| 17:48.32 | ScytheBlade1 | foxlit: what article? |
| 17:48.45 | foxlit | http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/06/29/addon-spotlight-opie/ |
| 17:48.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah gotcha |
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| 17:59.18 | nevcairiel | foxlit: did Tekkub yell at you yet for the stuff in OPie he didnt like? =P |
| 17:59.37 | foxlit | No, I've been cut off from the internet during this whole WWI thing |
| 17:59.49 | foxlit | Bringing a laptop didn't seem worth it |
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| 18:05.28 | Tekkub | oh hey foxie |
| 18:05.39 | Tekkub | 3 things |
| 18:06.05 | Tekkub | 1) (thing keeping me from using OPie) Can't spawn off a unitframe and cast on that unit |
| 18:06.20 | Tekkub | 2) the config is not very intuitive, needs work |
| 18:06.36 | Tekkub | 3) it should obviously be named Cowpie |
| 18:07.05 | Josh_Borke | ~lart Tekkub |
| 18:07.05 | purl | takes a large goose feather pillow and swings it wildly in Tekkub's direction, hitting Tekkub and sending Tekkub flying into the closet |
| 18:07.27 | Kirov | Someone finally remade Sprocket |
| 18:07.55 | nevcairiel | its not really sprocket |
| 18:08.21 | malreth | sprocket is dead. long live opie |
| 18:08.42 | Kirov | not really in the fact it doesn't look like sprocket, and doesn't move the cursor's location. Otherwise functionally equivalent |
| 18:09.29 | Kirov | I like the color wheel idea, it's a nice idea |
| 18:10.01 | Tekkub | it's pretty, but needs work |
| 18:13.02 | Tekkub | foxlit, poke poke poke poke poke poke poke poke poke poke poke poke poke poke poke v |
| 18:13.09 | Tekkub | s/v// |
| 18:21.56 | cogwheel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=47298805&pageNo=2&sid=1#35 |
| 18:21.59 | cogwheel | /headdesk |
| 18:22.11 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:22.24 | cogwheel | /monitorwindow |
| 18:22.42 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:22.51 | cogwheel | /cry |
| 18:22.57 | cogwheel | that last one sorta happened to me onec |
| 18:23.13 | cogwheel | I was putting it "safely" out of the way of the cats... it fell... it broke |
| 18:23.32 | ScytheBlade1 | hahaha |
| 18:23.42 | ScytheBlade1 | I sincerly hope that poster is someone in this channel messing with us |
| 18:23.50 | cogwheel | that was my first instinct |
| 18:23.54 | Shirik | does anyone recognize the addon prefix "TL2" ? |
| 18:23.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Otherwise I'm going to have... personal issues for the rest of my life |
| 18:23.56 | alestane | Well, it does sometimes drive me nuts when some ignorant person wants to know if mods are legal, and someone sarcastically tells the person that they aren't, and the P never gets the joke. |
| 18:23.59 | cogwheel | then that second person from the same realm posted |
| 18:24.31 | Shirik | for addon messages that is |
| 18:24.42 | Kirov | Thomas Lassner II? |
| 18:25.21 | cogwheel | ~cookie malreth |
| 18:25.36 | cogwheel | ... |
| 18:26.05 | malreth | i had honestly forgot about the olsen twin porn one |
| 18:26.13 | alestane | For instance, does malreth realize that that that poor schumuck will probably take him seriously? |
| 18:26.25 | malreth | alestane: i certainly hope so |
| 18:26.39 | malreth | he'll believe me because i speak his language |
| 18:27.07 | malreth | the same way i'd believe another God worshipping American over a Frenchman |
| 18:27.57 | alestane | How about if I represented the American Oder of the Servants of Olympus? |
| 18:28.00 | alestane | Order* |
| 18:28.04 | Kirov | so... olsen twins are french worshipping gods? |
| 18:28.14 | malreth | Kirov: god i wish |
| 18:29.50 | Kirov | Hmm... I wonder if when gods curse they use their own name in vain. |
| 18:30.40 | Kirov | I think I'm going to start doing that, throw some people off. |
| 18:30.50 | Kirov | "Oh Ben Damn it! |
| 18:33.49 | Mitranim | I want to ask a question. Why register event "ADDON_LOADED" on OnLoad() and use it in OnEvent()? We can execute all needed functions on load instead. |
| 18:34.05 | malreth | Mitranim: correct |
| 18:34.31 | Mitranim | Then why? I saw it in a number of addons. |
| 18:34.37 | malreth | saved variables, IIRC |
| 18:34.54 | malreth | they're not available at load time |
| 18:35.11 | Kirov | OnLoad() runs when that frame is first loaded, but not necessarily when the entire addon has finished loading, or when the saved variables for that addon have been loaded. |
| 18:35.24 | malreth | hence why the event is called "ADDON_LOADED" and not "ADDON_LOADING" |
| 18:35.47 | Mitranim | Oh. Thanks, now I understand. :-) |
| 18:35.49 | Shirik | also OnLoad requires XML |
| 18:35.55 | Shirik | and XML is evil |
| 18:36.01 | Josh_Borke | ~failrik |
| 18:36.01 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 18:36.04 | Shirik | :P |
| 18:36.04 | Josh_Borke | XML is NOT evil |
| 18:36.11 | Mitranim | I avoid XML when possible. |
| 18:36.12 | Shirik | it ate my children! |
| 18:36.13 | Josh_Borke | just because your little brain doesn't like it doesn't make it evil |
| 18:36.34 | durcyn | no, i'm pretty sure XML is pure, concentrated, ghostbusters-two-style evil. |
| 18:36.39 | Shirik | yup |
| 18:36.45 | Josh_Borke | no, see, you're absolutely wrong |
| 18:36.47 | kd3 | huh, wow... the williams twins are playing doubles together |
| 18:36.59 | Mitranim | To me, XML seems too cumbersome. It weights too much. |
| 18:37.00 | |Jelly| | I think Shirik crossed the beams. |
| 18:37.15 | Shirik | Mitranim, all joking aside, it's really a matter of preference |
| 18:37.28 | Shirik | some people (myself included) dislike XML, some people love it |
| 18:37.29 | malreth | if you were a girl, i'd ravish your body with that of mine own |
| 18:37.49 | Shirik | there are only a few cases where one is either more powerful than the other or can accomplish something that the other cannot |
| 18:37.51 | Josh_Borke | pretty sure jelly is a girl... |
| 18:37.52 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 18:38.02 | cogwheel | hehe |
| 18:38.10 | cogwheel | pretty sure Josh_Borke is the FSM |
| 18:38.18 | malreth | shit, i can't remember |
| 18:38.21 | |Jelly| | Sexxes vent chatz imo. |
| 18:38.24 | malreth | ~gender |Jelly| |
| 18:38.24 | purl | I heard |Jelly| is pregnant. |
| 18:38.25 | Josh_Borke | huh? |
| 18:38.31 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 18:38.33 | malreth | oh noes! |
| 18:38.45 | Shirik | finite state machine? |
| 18:38.50 | kd3 | flying spaghetti monster |
| 18:38.56 | cogwheel | ^ |
| 18:38.57 | Josh_Borke | ~wtf fsm |
| 18:39.00 | Mitranim | Well, can anyone give an example of when either Lua or XML is obviously better in some case? |
| 18:39.07 | Josh_Borke | templates |
| 18:39.34 | Kirov | that's a 1 for XML |
| 18:39.35 | Shirik | Lua can create dynamic frames |
| 18:39.39 | Josh_Borke | also, you cannot have nameless frames with xml |
| 18:39.39 | Mitranim | Doesn't Lua provide a way to create and use templates? |
| 18:39.43 | Shirik | i.e., if you don't know how many or when you need it |
| 18:39.51 | |Jelly| | There was that time when Shirik wrote that addon to hack GOD! It was all in Lua. |
| 18:40.01 | malreth | you could make a function that creates frames according to a programmatic template |
| 18:40.07 | Mitranim | Ah-ha. |
| 18:40.25 | Shirik | but you wouldn't be able to use the "template" parameter in CreateFrame |
| 18:40.33 | malreth | but you make Shirik's brain hurt when you use XML which is reason enough to use it |
| 18:40.33 | Shirik | without xml |
| 18:40.40 | Shirik | ~kill malreth |
| 18:40.41 | purl | ACTION shoots a hyper-charged pseudopositrino gun at malreth |
| 18:40.44 | cogwheel | Mitranim: the XML/Lua combo is really there to help you separate form from function |
| 18:40.57 | Josh_Borke | it's so much fun to add lua to xml |
| 18:41.09 | cogwheel | XML is a lot more natural for UI layout since its layout is inherently hierarchical |
| 18:41.23 | cogwheel | and if you use an editor that does code completion based on the schema, it's a real breeze to write |
| 18:41.36 | durcyn | eh, as long as CreateFrame exists, and as long as that horrible Addon Workshop exists, i'll continue to be wary of xml |
| 18:41.41 | durcyn | at least in the context of wow, i mean |
| 18:41.47 | cogwheel | But there's really nothing you can do in XML that you can't do in Lua (whether directly or via alternative means) |
| 18:42.05 | |Jelly| | Except hacking GOD! |
| 18:42.18 | Mitranim | Yeah, and this is what forces me to Lua for frames. Code is simpler, cleaner. |
| 18:42.24 | cogwheel | For most people it's personal preference, and a lot of people are averse to learning the other language |
| 18:42.24 | |Jelly| | Sorry. I'll shut up until this sugar rush goes away. |
| 18:42.30 | Shirik | depends on what you consider "simple" and "clean" |
| 18:42.34 | cogwheel | ^ |
| 18:42.35 | Josh_Borke | ~comfort |Jelly| |
| 18:42.36 | purl | There, there, |Jelly|. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 18:42.36 | malreth | |Jelly|: i just noticed your current wow forums sig... |
| 18:42.44 | Shirik | I mean, hell, I agree with you |
| 18:42.46 | Josh_Borke | ~gender JoshBorke |
| 18:42.47 | purl | I heard JoshBorke is sexless. |
| 18:42.52 | Josh_Borke | :( |
| 18:42.52 | durcyn | it's possible to write shitty code in any language, is what it boils down to |
| 18:42.52 | |Jelly| | malreth: ? |
| 18:42.53 | Shirik | but I point at Josh_Borke when I say not everyone feels that way |
| 18:43.02 | malreth | |Jelly|: the cloverfield line |
| 18:43.10 | Josh_Borke | my point of view is to use the tool best suited for the job |
| 18:43.14 | Shirik | I've written assembly that is easier to read than Lua |
| 18:43.14 | Shirik | lol |
| 18:43.27 | Josh_Borke | for my mod BindingsReminder, it makes sense to write it in XML/lua |
| 18:43.32 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 18:43.37 | |Jelly| | Been there for a looooooong time |
| 18:43.43 | malreth | i've been... away |
| 18:43.59 | Josh_Borke | for something like my mod HealWatch, where I needed dynamic frames, I wrote it almost exclusively in LUA [; |
| 18:44.04 | krka | Josh_Borke: If you are referring to the programming language, you should write Lua instead of LUA |
| 18:44.24 | Josh_Borke | aw, that's not nearly as fun as before |
| 18:44.31 | malreth | LUA |
| 18:44.37 | cogwheel | malreth: he's throttled |
| 18:44.45 | Josh_Borke | malreth: he's smarter than you! |
| 18:44.48 | Josh_Borke | muwahaha |
| 18:45.04 | |Jelly| | SO KINKY! |
| 18:45.16 | Josh_Borke | ~restrain |Jelly| |
| 18:45.42 | |Jelly| | I bet he likes it dry too. |
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| 18:46.54 | malreth | |Jelly|: http://www.derrickcomedy.com/2007/08/21/blow-job-girl/ |
| 18:47.05 | malreth | video is worksafe... audio less so |
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| 18:48.51 | malreth | "how dry do you like it?" "No, that is the opposite of what is good." |
| 18:50.25 | Kirov | so terrible |
| 18:51.45 | malreth | his "self defense" video is good |
| 18:52.09 | foxlit | Tekkub: delayed pong |
| 18:52.35 | Tekkub | scroll up :) |
| 18:52.55 | foxlit | how far up? |
| 18:53.17 | foxlit | I see the double ping messages but stuff after them seems to be more noise than content |
| 18:54.22 | foxlit | ah, up from them rather than down |
| 18:56.10 | foxlit | 1 is technical, 2 is sketchy and 3 is "pretend it's cOwPie" |
| 18:56.35 | Tekkub | well 1's the biggie |
| 18:56.41 | durcyn | foxlit: maek keybinds not suck please |
| 18:56.42 | Tekkub | I'll help you fix up the config even |
| 18:57.47 | foxlit | A more detailed description of what isn't intuitive would work :) |
| 18:59.10 | Tekkub | well mainly, making a custom bar |
| 18:59.24 | Tekkub | it seems you want us to drag/drop spells and macros in? |
| 18:59.40 | Tekkub | make it have empty actionbar-ish slots to make that aparent |
| 18:59.53 | Tekkub | a blank window doesn't say to me "hey drop shit here" |
| 19:00.03 | foxlit | Text says "drop shit here" :) |
| 19:00.43 | foxlit | But I suppose reading qualifies as "non-intuitive", so adding some background textures would probably help |
| 19:00.46 | Tekkub | hrm... I didn't see that, when was it added? |
| 19:01.02 | foxlit | Been there as long as that config, actually |
| 19:01.15 | foxlit | Drop items, macros and spells into the area immediately below to add" |
| 19:01.16 | foxlit | ... |
| 19:01.56 | foxlit | (fix that punctuation, I ended up pressing return earlier than I should've) |
| 19:02.10 | malreth | is there a maximum number of buttons per ring? i ferget |
| 19:02.38 | Tekkub | hum |
| 19:02.49 | Tekkub | well I'll poke at it later, I need to do work now |
| 19:03.01 | Tekkub | but seriously, unitframe rings are a must! |
| 19:03.20 | foxlit | They're also problematic |
| 19:03.42 | foxlit | It's difficult to achieve any sort of memory of "hey, target that guy" |
| 19:04.14 | foxlit | Because you're moving the mouse to use the ring, "mouseover" seems to be out of the question |
| 19:05.06 | Tekkub | you'd have to attach the rings specifically to the frame |
| 19:05.21 | Tekkub | one ring per frame, targetted uniquely for each |
| 19:07.01 | foxlit | So create a ring instance for every unit frame? |
| 19:07.29 | foxlit | Or force you to create ring descriptions per every unit frame you want to use? |
| 19:09.15 | Tekkub | probably per frome |
| 19:09.31 | Tekkub | unless you can use one and have it pick up the parent's target? |
| 19:09.40 | Tekkub | I don't know the state headers all that well |
| 19:10.05 | cogwheel | Anaral: they should've put bliss behind the portal :P |
| 19:10.08 | Tekkub | but you might be able to use one ring that's shown by the clicked frame anchored to it, and use that parent's target |
| 19:10.29 | Tekkub | cogwheel, you know state heanders and shit, can that be done with one frame? |
| 19:10.30 | Anaral | Lol |
| 19:10.59 | cogwheel | Tekkub: cliff notes? |
| 19:11.54 | foxlit | cogweel: Copy one secure action button's unit attribute into another frame |
| 19:11.59 | Tekkub | a frame with actions (in this case a pie) that spawns when you click on a unitframe and then casts on that unit |
| 19:12.11 | Tekkub | using one frame for ALL unitframes instead of making one for each |
| 19:12.34 | cogwheel | Tekkub: i did most of that in ch 26 of wowprogramming :P |
| 19:12.36 | malreth | 'mouseover' unitid? |
| 19:12.40 | Tekkub | so a click would need to show/anchor/parent/whatever to the clicked UF, and then the cast would need to use the parent's target |
| 19:12.52 | cogwheel | that's exactly what the anchor frames are for |
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| 19:13.47 | cogwheel | just give the buttons useparent-unit attributes and their actions will follow suit whenever it's anchored to a new unit frame |
| 19:14.13 | cogwheel | don't think it'll propagate down to macros though... only direct spells/items |
| 19:14.35 | Tekkub | yea makes sense |
| 19:14.41 | Tekkub | but it'd work :) |
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| 19:19.58 | foxlit | Hm, bindings |
| 19:20.12 | |Jelly| | 1.3 speed is too fast for an enhancement shaman, right? |
| 19:20.25 | foxlit | If you bind something to some key combination, and press it, it'll send a "down" click; then an "up" click when you release the combination |
| 19:20.30 | Tekkub | yea I though I read someone saying bindings were breaking other bindings ore something? |
| 19:21.23 | foxlit | Currently released beta addresses that |
| 19:21.39 | foxlit | If you click a mouse button while holding the shortcut, it'll send "up" for the shortcut before sending "down" for the mouse :/ |
| 19:22.33 | malreth | is that why i can't bind opie rings to mouse5? |
| 19:22.55 | foxlit | You should be able to bind OPie rings to anything that isn't left or right mouse buttons |
| 19:23.07 | malreth | well, i can, but it immediately chooses an action and closes the menu before i release the button |
| 19:23.08 | foxlit | If you bind to a mouse button instead, it'll not send "up" for the bound mouse button when you click another mouse button -- inconsistency hurts :( |
| 19:23.55 | malreth | i'll play around with it more later. for now, i just have it bound to the keyboard |
| 19:24.04 | Tekkub | hrm... this raises one other issue then |
| 19:24.09 | Tekkub | I have no keys free |
| 19:24.15 | Tekkub | I was gonna bind to mouse |
| 19:24.20 | Fisker- | ~fail Tekkub |
| 19:24.21 | purl | Tekkub, you Fail! |
| 19:24.28 | foxlit | I bind things to mouse, works for me |
| 19:24.36 | Tekkub | I'll test it later then |
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| 19:25.03 | foxlit | [remap mouse5 to mouse3 through drivers, but that's more of a "my middle button sucks" than anything in particular] |
| 19:25.50 | malreth | it could be my mouse... i've got some third party ergonomic mouse |
| 19:26.42 | malreth | and buttons 4-5 won't work unless special software is installed... kinda sucks |
| 19:27.20 | Tekkub | yea that does suck |
| 19:27.32 | Tekkub | like keyboards that don't do media keys correctly |
| 19:27.55 | Tekkub | Fuck the standard! We'll write a driver to do it instead |
| 19:28.10 | malreth | the HID spec has media buttons defined? |
| 19:28.11 | kd3 | picked up my mx revolution just fine. wow sees buttons 4-5 |
| 19:29.04 | Fisker- | kd3 my lover |
| 19:29.07 | Fisker- | did you see teh win? |
| 19:29.20 | kd3 | spain's win? yar |
| 19:29.26 | Fisker- | nah |
| 19:29.29 | Fisker- | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/june/wwi/day2-4.jpg <-massive win |
| 19:29.36 | Tekkub | malreth, it must my mouse uses a HID driver |
| 19:29.37 | Fisker- | should've been there with my usb stick |
| 19:29.54 | kd3 | rofl |
| 19:29.55 | Bibi | Fisker- : deja vu. |
| 19:30.03 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 19:30.10 | Bibi | [11:30:20] <Fisker-> http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/june/wwi/wwi-5.jpg <-i should SO have been there with my usb stick :o |
| 19:30.11 | Bibi | :( |
| 19:30.13 | Fisker- | just commenting on the lack of security on those boxes :P |
| 19:30.28 | Fisker- | yeah but kd3 was all like "lolwut i'm not here" |
| 19:31.00 | malreth | huh... the HID spec defines which body part is mapped to which action... everything from thumbs, fingers, hands, eyelids, mouth, and ear |
| 19:31.03 | malreth | wtf, EAR? |
| 19:31.28 | Tekkub | ear is mapper to speaker, GUH |
| 19:31.33 | Tekkub | *mapped |
| 19:31.57 | Fisker- | I NEED TO PEE |
| 19:32.01 | malreth | customer support: "Sir, please right-lobe to open the context menu" |
| 19:32.18 | Tekkub | penis is mapped to both toilet and fleshlight |
| 19:32.49 | malreth | oh... |
| 19:33.07 | malreth | well, it looks like the mouse report descriptor only supports three buttons |
| 19:33.25 | foxlit | Fisker-: just commenting on the lack of security on those boxes :P |
| 19:33.34 | malreth | there are additional device specific bits, i guess, for other buttons |
| 19:33.38 | foxlit | Fisker-: it's the best kind of security |
| 19:34.01 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 19:34.09 | foxlit | There's one blizzard employee per every five people around there |
| 19:34.15 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 19:34.19 | Fisker- | i could've done it |
| 19:34.42 | malreth | oh, and fleshlight, please... http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en-us&q=meiki+no+hinkaku&btnG=Search |
| 19:34.49 | foxlit | wotlk demo was rather disappointing, too |
| 19:34.56 | Fisker- | I'm pretty much Snake from MGS |
| 19:34.59 | malreth | uh... |
| 19:35.02 | Fisker- | well i was thinking Starcraft 2 |
| 19:35.22 | foxlit | damn you, medium AI. Stop kicking my butt! |
| 19:35.31 | Fisker- | what game? |
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| 19:35.49 | malreth | you guys really don't want to know what goes on in my head... |
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| 19:35.49 | Fisker- | do want |
| 19:37.58 | ckknight | ~seen Guillotine |
| 19:38.04 | purl | guillotine <n=Guilloti@ip68-111-86-113.oc.oc.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 2d 9h 42s ago, saying: 'night all :)'. |
| 19:39.02 | cogwheel | Fisker-: http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/06/30/1845201 |
| 19:39.08 | cogwheel | u comment nao! |
| 19:39.14 | cogwheel | zomg "FF4" |
| 19:39.18 | Fisker- | slashdot = fail |
| 19:39.22 | Fisker- | lolwut |
| 19:39.26 | Fisker- | It's Fx4 |
| 19:41.09 | Fisker- | meh |
| 19:41.14 | Fisker- | i want to know what that 2 connection issue is |
| 19:41.19 | cogwheel | same |
| 19:41.26 | Fisker- | slow site is sloooooooooooow though |
| 19:41.27 | cogwheel | /.ed |
| 19:42.09 | cogwheel | jonferraiolo has already more than 'max_user_connections' active connections |
| 19:42.48 | Fisker- | jonferraiolo_ |
| 19:42.51 | Fisker- | ? |
| 19:42.59 | cogwheel | i assume the webmaster... |
| 19:43.24 | Fisker- | :o |
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| 19:47.05 | wereHamster | cogwheel: from the /. article: 'the next round of browsers (i.e., FF4, IE9, Safari4, and Opera10)' - they haven't read the firefox faq, it's Fx and not FF :) |
| 19:47.58 | cogwheel | wereHamster: that was my point :P |
| 19:48.09 | cogwheel | Fisker-: was whining about that earlier ;) |
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| 19:54.08 | Cairenn | hi Krysmas, welcome to the channel |
| 19:54.31 | Krysmas | Hello Cairenn. :) I am otherwise known as the elusive Kirov's fiance. :P |
| 19:54.40 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 19:54.50 | Krysmas | Ah, he told on me then? |
| 19:54.55 | Cairenn | heh, yeah ;) |
| 19:55.02 | Cairenn | that and the fact your IPs are the same ;) |
| 19:55.18 | Krysmas | That happens when one tends to work at the same location... |
| 19:55.31 | Krysmas | Ah well :P |
| 19:55.33 | Kirov | I figured Cairenn would find you. |
| 19:55.47 | Cairenn | :) |
| 19:56.09 | Lopeppeppy | She's good like that |
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| 19:58.11 | Lopeppeppy | Quick, talk about Shirik while he's gone! |
| 19:58.16 | Cairenn | hah |
| 19:58.30 | Cairenn | >< |
| 20:06.53 | ckknight | ~seen Thunder_child |
| 20:07.10 | purl | thunder_child <n=TC@cpe-76-171-31-114.socal.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 10h 3m 33s ago, saying: 'be careful, this will hurt'. |
| 20:07.38 | Thunder_Child | yes ckknight? |
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| 20:13.37 | ckknight | anybody have the know-how to make 3d models usable in WoW? |
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| 20:15.51 | foxlit | your own .m2 stuff? |
| 20:15.57 | OniOnXXL | hello |
| 20:16.29 | ckknight | yes, foxlit |
| 20:16.46 | Fisker- | you can't |
| 20:16.56 | ckknight | yes, you can, I already have a working prototype |
| 20:17.03 | Fisker- | Yeah but it's against the ToS |
| 20:17.12 | ckknight | I'm not replacing any in-game models |
| 20:17.15 | Thunder_Child | http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Silent-But-Deadly.aspx my computer would have incinerated |
| 20:17.17 | ckknight | so no, I'm not |
| 20:17.20 | foxlit | Fisker-'s racial bonus is "+50 trolling" |
| 20:17.43 | ckknight | I need a relatively simple task done and am willing to pay to have a simple model created for me |
| 20:18.16 | Fisker- | Well there i no known software to export to .m2 i believe |
| 20:18.23 | OniOnXXL | I've been looking into this most of the day; is it possible to catch the items of an Auction House search query and adjust them before they get displayed by the normal interface/adjusted interface? |
| 20:18.55 | cogwheel | you can adjust how they're displayed in any way you want |
| 20:19.26 | cogwheel | rather than intercepting the items as they come from the server you can hook the functions used to display the items in the list |
| 20:20.05 | cogwheel | pretty much any mod that changes the way auctions are displayed will give you insight into how it's done |
| 20:21.44 | OniOnXXL | thanks |
| 20:22.05 | ckknight | Fisker-: well, I have a model that someone else made that's in m2 format, I want something similar done |
| 20:23.15 | Fisker- | I don't doubt it's possible, just never seen anything for it :P |
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| 20:38.50 | Thunder_Child | if anyone owns a Garmin Nuvi you can get a GLaDOS voice pack |
| 20:39.17 | Tekkub | wut? |
| 20:39.30 | Tekkub | sadly I won't buy a GPS just for that bit of awesome |
| 20:39.30 | Thunder_Child | GLaDOS the creepy voice from the portal games |
| 20:39.54 | Tekkub | yea I know, I put the GLaDOS "weeeee" on my email notifier |
| 20:40.19 | cogwheel | period |
| 20:40.43 | Kirov | cogwheel - you get one of the ones with the dike truck driver voice? |
| 20:41.05 | cogwheel | i ... don't know i'd call it that... |
| 20:41.08 | cogwheel | :P |
| 20:41.15 | Thunder_Child | or the KITT one |
| 20:41.29 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/5018469/knight-rider-gps-with-kitts-voice |
| 20:41.30 | Kirov | I'm not sure which part bothers me more, the random phlemy cough, or the random insults when I miss a turn. |
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| 20:44.18 | Tekkub | I've never felt the need to buy a GPS |
| 20:44.32 | Tekkub | hubby wants one just for the sheer joy of spending money on one |
| 20:44.44 | Tekkub | but that's his motivation for everything, he wouldn't actually use it |
| 20:44.58 | cogwheel | i've thankfully found times to actually use it |
| 20:45.17 | cogwheel | like when our realtor got us lost going between showings... |
| 20:45.24 | cogwheel | >< |
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| 20:55.30 | kd3 | lol |
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| 21:04.45 | sioraiocht | hello all |
| 21:04.50 | cogwheel | hihi |
| 21:05.03 | cogwheel | back from paris? |
| 21:05.06 | sioraiocht | aye |
| 21:05.19 | sioraiocht | I had to coe back yesterday night, clad is still on his way back |
| 21:05.22 | sioraiocht | on the train from london |
| 21:05.32 | sioraiocht | european WoW players are fun |
| 21:05.38 | cogwheel | don't tell Fisker- |
| 21:05.39 | cogwheel | :P |
| 21:05.43 | sioraiocht | oh? |
| 21:08.39 | cncfanatics | s/smart// |
| 21:08.51 | cogwheel | cncfanatics: no... |
| 21:08.58 | cncfanatics | :p |
| 21:09.00 | cncfanatics | thats me tbh :) |
| 21:09.08 | cogwheel | s/ smart/n / |
| 21:09.41 | cogwheel | lern2... umm... what's it called when you change a to an? |
| 21:10.14 | kd3 | grammar? |
| 21:10.19 | cogwheel | works |
| 21:10.41 | cncfanatics | ~cry |
| 21:10.41 | purl | ACTION cries and sobs until she nearly drowns in her own tears. |
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| 21:21.15 | sioraiocht | cogwheel: depends on the context |
| 21:21.16 | sioraiocht | it's a clitic |
| 21:21.29 | Anaral | Okay, the WoW XP theme found on WoWs site is evil... |
| 21:22.02 | sioraiocht | a > an happens to prevent two vowels in hiatus, though |
| 21:23.29 | cogwheel | something tells me if i said lern2clitic it would've ended up taking the convo in whole new directions... |
| 21:26.36 | Thunder_Child | its really hard to make barney in the spore CC |
| 21:26.46 | Anaral | Good! |
| 21:27.03 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 21:27.26 | Thunder_Child | i only wanted to see it die |
| 21:28.02 | Thunder_Child | and dance |
| 21:31.03 | Kirov | In that order? You sick, twisted bastard! Why didn't I think of that?! |
| 21:31.36 | Thunder_Child | because you're not sick and twisted enough |
| 21:37.28 | foxlit | haha |
| 21:37.39 | foxlit | wow-europe.com splash reads "undefined" for both diablo taglines |
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| 21:38.20 | sioraiocht | cogwheel: oh, see, i need context ;) |
| 21:38.54 | Tekkub | me neither |
| 21:39.01 | Tekkub | might try D3 in a few years though |
| 21:40.29 | cogwheel | wife and i bought D2 a couple months ago to blow off steam while we were house hunting |
| 21:40.35 | cogwheel | WoW just isn't bloody enough :P |
| 21:43.32 | Thunder_Child | if you needed bloody you could have just found a house you like killed everyone in it then waited till it went on the market |
| 21:46.11 | cogwheel | anyone with a mac help plx http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7475684418&postId=74748435079&sid=1#3 |
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| 21:52.36 | kachna|lappy | hey guys,anyone rund wowmodelviewer on linux? :o |
| 21:53.01 | kd3 | works fine in wine |
| 21:54.26 | Tekkub | fine wine |
| 21:56.02 | Diskmaster | What is a man... but a miserable pile of secrets? |
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| 21:56.27 | Tekkub | to understand mankind we must first analyse the word |
| 21:56.30 | Lunessa | ... station. |
| 21:56.50 | Tekkub | it is made up of two words, "mank" and "ind", both of which are a mystery, as is mankind |
| 21:56.56 | cogwheel | hai Lunessa |
| 21:57.08 | Sixen | heh |
| 21:57.14 | Sixen | stations are ftl. |
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| 21:59.48 | Lunessa | all your station are belong to me. |
| 22:01.52 | Sixen | lulz. |
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| 22:05.39 | foxlit | Amazing |
| 22:06.02 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Lunessa |
| 22:06.03 | {RN}Terra | yes life is amazing |
| 22:06.05 | Lunessa | Yes, Yes I am. |
| 22:06.09 | foxlit | Out of my entire wwi shot collection, the videos are the only thing that there's nothing wrong with |
| 22:06.20 | {RN}Terra | ;( |
| 22:10.31 | kachna|lappy | oh sry...had to decline 100 people askin me to tank stuff :P so kd2/Tekkub, could ya help me with that a little? :p i start it ok,but the place where stuff renders is quite full of strange colors and stuff...:P |
| 22:10.54 | Tekkub | wut? |
| 22:11.28 | kachna|lappy | well..talking about that modelviewer on linux :P it'Ä somehow blinking at me... |
| 22:11.47 | Tekkub | I don't use either |
| 22:11.48 | {RN}Terra | your pc is trying to tell you something? |
| 22:11.57 | Tekkub | well I do use linux, just not currently |
| 22:12.15 | Lunessa | http://www.pvponline.com/2008/06/30/interlude-the-adventures-of-lolbat/ - epic .. something. |
| 22:12.17 | kachna|lappy | oh |
| 22:12.44 | Anaral | Cairenn: *in dopey voice* You so smart. :D (in ref to #blizzard) |
| 22:12.58 | Cairenn | :) |
| 22:14.14 | Anaral | And that guy is an idiot. |
| 22:14.33 | Cairenn | yeah |
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| 22:16.26 | Anaral | And wth is that last line about? transparent layer isn't transparent? |
| 22:16.48 | Lopeppeppy | No arfing clue. |
| 22:17.53 | Anaral | So now it's our fault that it's a .swf media file? |
| 22:18.52 | Anaral | cogwheel: He's guarenteed not to get haxored if he's only using a text based browser... that or he's doing the hacking. |
| 22:18.53 | Cairenn | oi |
| 22:19.48 | Anaral | Aww, can't we just give him a few crumbs? |
| 22:19.49 | Lopeppeppy | I'm still being nice! |
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| 22:21.08 | cogwheel | woot! |
| 22:21.10 | cogwheel | netflix caved |
| 22:21.16 | Lopeppeppy | Yay! |
| 22:21.17 | Lopeppeppy | On what? |
| 22:21.22 | cogwheel | getting rid of profiles |
| 22:21.26 | |Jelly| | ? |
| 22:21.33 | Lopeppeppy | Oh. *nod* |
| 22:22.16 | cogwheel | http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/06/30/2132248 |
| 22:22.25 | Lopeppeppy | Customer service barbie wins again! |
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| 22:24.42 | Lunessa | U can has viktoree |
| 22:25.11 | wereHamster | kachna|lappy: you asked about wowmodelviewer on linux, I managed to compile and run it. But I had to patch it a bit |
| 22:25.21 | Kraps | http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/worldofwarcraftwrathofthelichking/news.html?sid=6193142&tag=topslot;title;2&om_act=convert&om_clk=topslot |
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| 22:34.04 | Lunessa | Good grief... lots of posts in UI & Macros to catch up on. |
| 22:34.40 | Lopeppeppy | Yuppers. |
| 22:35.24 | Codexius | How can I modify /use [target=party1] item:34497 for target to be a randomly cycled friend unit? |
| 22:35.42 | Lunessa | You can't. |
| 22:36.07 | Lunessa | Targeting is either assigned, or clicked. |
| 22:36.23 | Codexius | Is there a way to seperate it onto 2 lines, like /targetfriend then /use item:# |
| 22:36.36 | Lunessa | Do //use [target=none] item:34497 and then click |
| 22:36.49 | Codexius | Its an item that requires a targe |
| 22:36.52 | Codexius | target* |
| 22:37.12 | Lunessa | There is no "target random" command. Sorry. |
| 22:37.58 | Codexius | would the /targetfriend and then /use item:# do the same thing as cycling through nearest player, and then use the item? |
| 22:38.34 | cogwheel | yep |
| 22:39.03 | cogwheel | /targetfriend works just like ctrl-tab |
| 22:39.12 | Lunessa | You'll end up getting whomever closest first. |
| 22:39.45 | Gnarfoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:39.50 | Codexius | i guess ill have to mash the button, because that particular item cannot be used on players too close, shucks |
| 22:40.17 | Hirsute | What's the item? |
| 22:40.28 | Hirsute | *curiosity piqued* |
| 22:40.28 | Codexius | is there an equivalent [target=raid1] and raid40, etc? |
| 22:40.37 | Codexius | Paper Flying Machine from the tcg |
| 22:40.40 | cogwheel | yes |
| 22:40.47 | cogwheel | target= can take any unit id |
| 22:41.06 | Codexius | So I can make like 5 macros and click em all and try and send my paper planes at them all, lol |
| 22:41.18 | Codexius | rad1 to raid40, or raid0 to raid 39? |
| 22:41.20 | Codexius | raid* |
| 22:41.30 | Gnarfoz | /targetraid targets random raid members, btw |
| 22:41.30 | Kirov | 1-40 |
| 22:41.39 | cogwheel | Gnarfoz: it's random not closest? |
| 22:41.44 | Gnarfoz | better than /targetfriend which will keep giving you closest |
| 22:41.44 | Codexius | gnar, from thje cloest to farthest right? |
| 22:41.52 | Gnarfoz | err |
| 22:42.08 | Gnarfoz | I remember that differently, but I'm not certain really |
| 22:42.09 | Codexius | ./targetraid doesnt use distance? |
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| 22:42.27 | Gnarfoz | that was my thought |
| 22:42.51 | Codexius | what else would it use? |
| 22:43.29 | Codexius | Gnarfoz, did you mean /targetfriend or /targetparty |
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| 22:45.08 | Gnarfoz | there's all three, I guess |
| 22:45.46 | Codexius | Anyone know how to get the "me" combat log filter back if youve deleted everything but "everything"? |
| 22:46.00 | Gnarfoz | /targetfriend which would exactly equal ctrl-tab, /targetraid & /targetparty, which at the least limit selection to your raid/party, if not also ignoring range (preferring closer targets to further away targets) |
| 22:47.28 | Tekkub | just use a mouseover target |
| 22:47.51 | Gnarfoz | which is not what he wants :\ |
| 22:48.41 | Codexius | Well my original macro targets party1, throws a plane at him, then 2, then 3, then 4. the whole point is it looks like im throwing planes everywhere quickly |
| 22:49.15 | Tekkub | WE WIN! |
| 22:49.23 | Tekkub | Netflix is keeping profiles |
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| 22:49.52 | cogwheel | Tekkub: old news |
| 22:49.58 | cogwheel | :P |
| 22:50.09 | cogwheel | 15:21 <+cogwheel> woot! |
| 22:50.09 | cogwheel | 15:21 <+cogwheel> netflix caved |
| 22:50.23 | Tekkub | hubby just got up and got the email |
| 22:50.30 | Tekkub | my acct is a profile, so no email for me |
| 22:50.32 | cogwheel | same for me s/hubby/wife/ |
| 22:50.42 | Hirsute | Can one macro use another macro? |
| 22:50.57 | cogwheel | Hirsute: see my macro guide under Simulating button clicks |
| 22:51.13 | Codexius | Anyone here use supermacro? |
| 22:51.17 | cogwheel | (sticky on the wow ui & macros forum) |
| 22:51.38 | cogwheel | Codexius: is that even still around? I seem to remember it dying a horrible death early in '07 |
| 22:51.52 | Hirsute | I was just wondering, by way of helping Codexius. If it could, he could make 5 different macros and then use a /userandom to randomly choose one of those. I'll look at your sticky, though, cog |
| 22:51.57 | cogwheel | (though it easily could've been resurrected) |
| 22:52.00 | Codexius | Hehe yea cogwheel it still is |
| 22:52.24 | Tekkub | simply put, Codexius needs an addon to do what he wants |
| 22:52.35 | Tekkub | or use a halfassed macro to kinda do it |
| 22:52.48 | wereHamster | what is netflix anyway? |
| 22:52.48 | cogwheel | or use MacroSequence to halfassed kinda do it :P |
| 22:52.52 | Codexius | hehe |
| 22:53.08 | Kirov | wereHamster - FAIL! |
| 22:53.11 | Codexius | Anyone check out the Entitled! mod by vagraesh? |
| 22:53.12 | Tekkub | someone kick wereHamster |
| 22:53.14 | cogwheel | ~google netflix |
| 22:53.39 | wereHamster | hah, netflix doesn't exist, google can't find it |
| 22:53.47 | NightHawkTheSane | wereHamster: i'd like to extend you an invitation to the 21st century. |
| 22:53.47 | cogwheel | ~wiki netflix |
| 22:53.52 | Tekkub | s/google/purl/ |
| 22:54.01 | cogwheel | ~lart infobox |
| 22:54.01 | purl | beats infobox severely about the head and shoulders with a rubber chicken |
| 22:54.11 | Tekkub | ~netflix |
| 22:54.20 | Codexius | ~whattheheckdoestildedo |
| 22:54.30 | Tekkub | ~nothing |
| 22:54.31 | purl | somebody said nothing was something |
| 22:54.33 | cogwheel | Codexius: it's a trigger for purl (a bot) |
| 22:55.29 | Codexius | oh :) |
| 22:55.29 | wereHamster | 'renting', my vocabulary doesn't know that word... |
| 22:55.44 | NightHawkTheSane | "My friend, one thing you have to learn. There is /always/ time for beer." (I love farscape) |
| 22:56.51 | cogwheel | Codexius: in all honesty, if you wanted to get your feet wet writing addons, that wouldn't be EXTREMELY difficult to pull off |
| 22:57.31 | Hirsute | He's right, I've jumped into the game, and I had no knowledge of lua at all before I started a couple of months ago. |
| 22:57.34 | Tekkub | no it wouldn't... a button with a pre-click script |
| 22:57.54 | Hirsute | Addons aren't allowed to target things, though, are they? |
| 22:58.07 | Tekkub | the addon would only work OOC |
| 22:58.33 | cogwheel | exactly |
| 22:58.36 | Hirsute | OOC? On your Own Computer? |
| 22:58.39 | Tekkub | you just rewrite the button's macrotext on preclick unless you're in combat |
| 22:58.39 | cogwheel | out of combat |
| 22:58.46 | NightHawkTheSane | out of character *nod* |
| 22:58.50 | NightHawkTheSane | omen of clarity! |
| 22:58.52 | Hirsute | Aaaah. *duh* |
| 22:59.04 | Tekkub | out of cock |
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| 23:13.30 | Prose | Hello all |
| 23:14.12 | Cairenn | hi |
| 23:14.47 | Prose | Just started getting my feet wet with UI coding, looking for some help with some specifics |
| 23:15.23 | Prose | more specifically, im looking for a "list" of the default frame names |
| 23:15.25 | Krysmas | I just got back into coding again lately, and it's safe to say - get out while you can! :P |
| 23:15.31 | Prose | hahah |
| 23:15.34 | Hirsute | Heh. Just read an article about firewall rules that can help you beat BitTorrent throttling like Comcast used to use. |
| 23:16.15 | Lunessa | ./tinfoilhat |
| 23:16.37 | Prose | is there any resource or tool i can use that will tell me what the frame names are for certain items in the default ui? |
| 23:16.38 | Prose | for instance, |
| 23:16.52 | Prose | the backgrounds of certain panels etc. |
| 23:17.19 | foxlit | ~framexml |
| 23:17.23 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/ |
| 23:17.46 | Prose | thanks thanks man |
| 23:18.00 | Lunessa | Prose: http://www.wowwiki.com/Useful_macros#Interface_.28How_to_find_hidden_program_information.29 |
| 23:18.17 | Hirsute | Funny that I never thought to just block Comcast's forged RST packets, seems to be a rather obvious solution to the problem. |
| 23:19.38 | Sixen | New War3 patch for anyone that plays. |
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| 23:20.40 | Sixen | =] |
| 23:20.48 | kd3 | and it goes "fail" |
| 23:20.53 | Sixen | @Kd3, You'll need to DL it from Lordaeron or Kalimdor |
| 23:21.08 | Sixen | Patches on Azeroth and Northrend are failing. |
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| 23:23.21 | kd3 | huh, wc3's getting it, wc3x didn't |
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| 23:23.35 | Thunder_Child | the internet |
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| 23:37.09 | Mike-N-Go | phyber: Hi there. |
| 23:37.29 | phyber | hello |
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| 23:38.54 | Lunessa | Today feels like a "Sting" day. |
| 23:39.09 | Mike-N-Go | You wrote NameToggleFu, yes? |
| 23:39.27 | phyber | I didn't write it, but I currently maintain it, yes. |
| 23:40.17 | Mike-N-Go | Maintain, ahh. |
| 23:40.51 | phyber | Tekkub is the original author, I took it off them some years ago though. |
| 23:41.16 | Tekkub | and mine was just a port of ye olde Titan version |
| 23:41.21 | Mike-N-Go | Well, I have a recremendation. |
| 23:41.28 | Mike-N-Go | KeyBindings. |
| 23:42.12 | Mike-N-Go | What do yah think of that? |
| 23:43.00 | phyber | sounds good, i'll give the keybinding system another shot sometime. |
| 23:43.26 | phyber | (i dislike it, it's shit. give AddKeyBinding(somefunction, "button"); or similar, plx) |
| 23:43.38 | phyber | mabe there is one, i didn't check in a long time. |
| 23:44.42 | Mike-N-Go | Or yah could just make one button, cut and paste it a dozen times or so, and change the called function in each one =] |
| 23:45.16 | Mike-N-Go | Or is there an Ace way to do it? |
| 23:45.54 | phyber | maybe. :) |
| 23:46.16 | foxlit | Bindings.xml for insecure function-calling stuff |
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| 23:46.48 | Prose | how would i go about making a simple script that hides me ui (minus radar and chat) unless im in combat or targeting something? |
| 23:46.48 | foxlit | setbinding* for secure click/spell/stuff stuff |
| 23:49.18 | Mike-N-Go | phyber: Let me know if yah update NameToggleFU. |
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| 23:55.33 | Lunessa | Prose - Go get Goose from WoWInterface.com. |
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| 23:58.03 | Prose | kk checking it out |
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| 23:58.33 | Corrodias | Arrowmaster: i'd lke your thoughts on the 2407wfp-hc |
| 23:58.41 | Arrowmaster | no clue |
| 23:58.59 | Arrowmaster | heard the first ones had bad inverse ghosting but i think they fixed it |
| 23:58.59 | Tekkub | fuckit.... |
| 23:59.36 | Corrodias | the 2407wfp had some big problems at first, but they did eventually work them out, and the 2407wfp-hc has a higher color gamut and seems to test out to good quality in the reviews |
| 23:59.46 | Corrodias | (that all was mostly what i based my decision to purchase the 2408 on) |
