IRC log for #wowuidev on 20080625

`00:00.06`	`Shirik`	`start->run ftp enter`
`00:00.17`	`Thunder_Child`	`i did say good`
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`00:04.29`	`Kaso`	`Personally i use WinSCP for all my FTP/SFTP needs, ive not tested it on vista 64 but it works fine on xp 64`
`00:05.45`	`MentalPower`	`Thunder_Child: filezilla`
`00:05.56`	`MentalPower`	`worked fine when I tried it in vista64`
`00:06.37`	`Shirik`	`but yeah`
`00:06.39`	`Shirik`	`I use filezilla`
`00:06.51`	`Thunder_Child`	`shows only for 32 bit`
`00:06.51`	`Shirik`	`however I don't think filezilla is UAC aware`
`00:06.53`	`Shirik`	`so be careful with it`
`00:06.57`	`Shirik`	`I definitely use it on 64 bit`
`00:07.04`	`Shirik`	`just because it's a 32 bit program doesn't mean it won't work`
`00:07.05`	`Thunder_Child`	`i dont have UAC enabled`
`00:07.14`	`Anaral`	`I love SmartFTP.`
`00:07.18`	`Anaral`	`It's easy peasy`
`00:07.44`	`Thunder_Child`	`except for the part where it failed for me`
`00:07.55`	`Anaral`	`Bah.`
`00:08.05`	`Anaral`	`Just because you looked at it funny.`
`00:08.11`	`Kaso`	`what failed for you, filezilla or smartftp?`
`00:08.16`	`Thunder_Child`	`and it costs monies`
`00:08.19`	`Thunder_Child`	`smartftp`
`00:09.06`	`MentalPower`	`Thunder_Child: just because theres no 64-bit native version does not mean it won't run`
`00:09.22`	`MentalPower`	`and Shirik said that 2mins ago`
`00:09.25`	`Kaso`	`seconding this ^ except if you're using IA-64 or something wierd ><`
`00:09.38`	`Thunder_Child`	`MentalPower, i know, but i tend to gravitate there due to the crap that i get every so often`
`00:09.49`	`Kaso`	`though only server comes in ia doesnt it?`
`00:11.21`	`MentalPower`	`I was under the impression that only XP was available in ia-64`
`00:12.33`	`Kaso`	`hmm thats correct yeah`
`00:12.44`	`Kaso`	`Windows XP 64-bit Edition for Itanium systems`
`00:13.04`	`MentalPower`	`aye`
`00:13.07`	`Kaso`	`as well as "Windows XP Professional x64 Edition" which is for x86-64`
`00:13.25`	`Anaral`	`Thunder_Child: I've yet to pay a dime to SmartFTP.`
`00:13.30`	`foxlit`	`SetAttributes(btn, "type", "ORLFunc"); btn.ORLFunc = OR_HandleClick;`
`00:13.34`	`foxlit`	`vs SetAttributes(btn, "type-use", "ORLFunc"); btn.ORLFunc = OR_HandleClick;`
`00:13.36`	`Kaso`	`But no IA-64 Vista version as far as i can see.`
`00:13.36`	`Anaral`	`And I do update it.`
`00:13.57`	`foxlit`	`I don't see why if the pressed button is actually "use" the HandleClick function is never called :(`
`00:14.24`	`Lunessa`	`heh, Open FTP Site as Remote Folder in IE. Sheesh.`
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`00:21.27`	`foxlit`	`Hm, makes no sense :/`
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`00:25.00`	`foxlit`	`or, rather it does.`
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`00:25.14`	`foxlit`	`It's a shame you have to break half the secure template system to get at what goes wrong :(`
`00:29.21`	Funkeh`	`I gotta dmire the math behind opie`
`00:29.23`	Funkeh`	`admire`
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`00:45.28`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Peeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy`
`00:45.35`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Heya, Jelly-dear! hug`
`00:45.59`	Funkeh`	`mkay`
`00:46.22`	`\|Jelly\|`	`ok`
`00:47.44`	`Lopeppeppy`	`I win.`
`00:48.59`	`Tekkub`	`o/~ this is a random feature o/~`
`00:49.06`	`\|Jelly\|`	`orly?`
`00:49.07`	`Tekkub`	`oh I should name an addon that... RandomFeature`
`00:49.41`	Funkeh`	`stolen`
`00:50.02`	`Tekkub`	`sadly I don't have an addon lacking a name I could use it on`
`00:50.13`	Funkeh`	`man I suck at names`
`00:50.20`	`foxlit`	`Easy`
`00:50.22`	`Tekkub`	`too many addon-less names, WTB more nameless addons!`
`00:50.26`	`foxlit`	`You make a keybinding`
`00:50.29`	Funkeh`	`10minutes on the addon 2 days on the name`
`00:50.43`	`foxlit`	`You make it click a random button in the player's interface`
`00:50.50`	`Tekkub`	Funkeh`, ThePillsWontHelpYouNow
`00:51.03`	Funkeh`	`Tekkub, TheCakeIsALie`
`00:51.07`	`foxlit`	`If they're lucky, it'll do something useful`
`00:51.10`	`Tekkub`	`too obvious`
`00:51.13`	`foxlit`	`If they're not, it'll diss all their epics`
`00:51.17`	`MentalPower`	Funkeh`: not lines, constants
`00:51.29`	`MentalPower`	"[20:38:17]<Funkeh`>is there a hard limit on the amount of lines of a saved variable file"
`00:51.32`	`Tekkub`	`WeightedCompanionPet`
`00:51.43`	Funkeh`	`which is? ;p`
`00:51.49`	`Lopeppeppy`	`FatCat`
`00:51.51`	`MentalPower`	`2^18-1`
`00:52.11`	`MentalPower`	`constants`
`00:52.15`	`MentalPower`	`as defined by Lua`
`00:52.24`	`Tekkub`	`my god, he's watching Xena`
`00:52.28`	`Tekkub`	`I MARRIED A FAG!`
`00:52.45`	Funkeh`	`hey`
`00:52.50`	Funkeh`	`nothing wrong with xena`
`00:53.00`	Funkeh`	`i find it quite amusing`
`00:53.04`	`Tekkub`	`if you're watching it for the breastplate`
`00:53.06`	`Tekkub`	`he's not`
`00:53.06`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Except ... everything.`
`00:53.15`	`dylanm`	`Tekkub are you... not male?`
`00:53.17`	`MentalPower`	`... I thought Tekkub was male :) ...`
`00:53.32`	Funkeh`	`he is`
`00:53.37`	`Tekkub`	`sigh`
`00:53.53`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Not all males are 1) pigs, 2) interested in breasts, 3) crass enough to discuss it all in public`
`00:53.53`	Funkeh`	`nothing wrong witha gay couple`
`00:53.59`	`Tekkub`	`Kiff! Unjam the missle tube! And stop sighing all the time!`
`00:54.03`	`dylanm`	`No, there's nothing wrong with it.`
`00:54.17`	`Tem`	Funkeh`, there's something wrong when tekkub is involved
`00:54.23`	`Tem`	`he's too detailed`
`00:54.39`	`Tekkub`	`you're just listeneing too closely`
`00:54.43`	`MentalPower`	`I agree with Tem :)`
`00:54.55`	`MentalPower`	`Tekkub: not when you're screaming the details :)`
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`00:55.08`	`dylanm`	`Where do you live Tek?`
`00:55.16`	`Tekkub`	`what details? I didn't mention that he's also cooking with no pants on`
`00:55.27`	`Tekkub`	`dylanm, CO`
`00:55.32`	`MentalPower`	`see what I mean?`
`00:55.45`	Funkeh`	`girls are so much trouble`
`00:55.48`	`Dashkal`	`that sounds like asking for trouble... hope he isn't frying anything...`
`00:55.54`	`MentalPower`	`so he's cooking and watching Xena with no pants on?`
`00:56.04`	Funkeh`	`lol`
`00:56.07`	`Tem`	`sounds pretty normal to me`
`00:56.11`	Funkeh`	`inded`
`00:56.18`	`Tem`	`except for the cooking and xena parts`
`00:56.20`	`Tekkub`	`well not at the same time, he pauses Xena when ho goes to check the food`
`00:56.51`	Funkeh`	`oh`
`00:56.55`	Funkeh`	`it's not streaming`
`00:56.58`	Funkeh`	`that's bad`
`00:57.03`	`Tekkub`	`it is, netflix`
`00:57.04`	`Dashkal`	`well that's no good. The TV should always in view of the kitchen :p`
`00:57.09`	Funkeh`	`i watch it casually when it's on, can't say i play dvds ;p`
`00:57.11`	Funkeh`	`ah`
`00:57.20`	`Dashkal`	`or monitor as the case may be`
`00:57.22`	`dylanm`	`Tekkub: Oh. So you didn't get married there then. I always assumed you were a Euro for some reason.`
`00:57.36`	`Tekkub`	`Euro? eeew`
`00:57.44`	`dylanm`	`I know right it's shameful`
`00:57.51`	`Tem`	`oh, wait`
`00:57.52`	`Tekkub`	`if I was gonna go somewhere besides Canada, it'd be Russia`
`00:58.06`	`MentalPower`	`Tem: nice :)`
`00:58.13`	Funkeh`	`i might move to belgium`
`00:58.18`	`Tem`	`sometimes the 4chan in me bubbles over`
`00:58.19`	Funkeh`	`from scotland`
`00:58.24`	Funkeh`	`wonderful place`
`00:58.54`	`Tem`	`If you want a linguistic experience, go drinking with a scottsman`
`00:59.04`	Funkeh`	`haha`
`00:59.05`	`Tem`	`'cause you can't understand them before`
`00:59.13`	Funkeh`	`we don't do much here but drink`
`00:59.21`	Funkeh`	`wierdly i dislike that ;p`
`00:59.25`	`Tekkub`	`I could probably stand Scotland`
`00:59.35`	`Tekkub`	`if I could decipher the accent`
`00:59.36`	`Tem`	`They are a people that can get so drunk, that they can wear a skirt`
`00:59.38`	`Tem`	`and not care`
`00:59.40`	Funkeh`	`too many drunk girls looking for 1 night stands`
`00:59.58`	`Tem`	`that sounds like college town usa`
`01:00.10`	`Tem`	`with one small addition, anyway`
`01:00.11`	Funkeh`	`mff`
`01:00.30`	`Tem`	`s/drunk/bitchy, drunk/`
`01:01.18`	`Mikk`	`okay just double checking.. US is still on 2.4.2 right`
`01:01.30`	`Tekkub`	`yes`
`01:01.31`	`Mikk`	`i have 14523512346 tards telling me we get 2.4.3 tonight`
`01:01.32`	`Mikk`	`thanks`
`01:01.45`	`Tekkub`	`we got s$, not a patch`
`01:01.49`	`Tekkub`	`S4`
`01:02.46`	`Mikk`	`Ok I can keep rubbing my smrts in peoples faces and call them stupid with impunity then`
`01:03.10`	`Tekkub`	`you can rub your "smrts" on my face any day`
`01:03.52`	`Tem`	`see!`
`01:03.53`	`Mikk`	`Oh, did I tell you the story about the female brain cell who decided to hop over and say hi to the guys one day?`
`01:04.06`	`Mikk`	`She hops over, and goes "Hellooo! Where is everyone?"`
`01:04.11`	`Mikk`	`just gets echoes back`
`01:04.18`	`Tekkub`	`I don't get it`
`01:04.24`	`Tem`	`is this a "guys don't have a brain" joke?`
`01:04.29`	`Mikk`	`So she screams at the top of her lungs "HELLO?!?!?! WHERE IS EVERYONE?!"`
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`01:04.42`	`Tekkub`	`downstairs`
`01:04.43`	`Mikk`	`Then, very weakly, she hears a voice ".... we're down here!"`
`01:05.01`	`Tem`	`ah, guys' brains in pants joke`
`01:05.05`	`Mikk`	`ba-dum tish`
`01:05.12`	`\|Jelly\|`	`~rimshot`
`01:05.12`	`purl`	`ba-dum CHH`
`01:05.25`	`Mikk`	`well tekkub wanted me to rub my smrts in his face`
`01:05.40`	`Tekkub`	`that wasn't smrts it was a dumb joke`
`01:05.46`	`Tem`	`you should have just said a bunch of big words`
`01:05.58`	`Tem`	`like antidisestablishmentarianism`
`01:06.07`	`Tekkub`	`testcicles`
`01:06.22`	`Mikk`	`I think "Furry Cockvores" would work better on tek`
`01:07.00`	`Tekkub`	`penile urethreal consumption`
`01:07.38`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Um, you guys are not nice.`
`01:07.48`	`Tekkub`	`why not?`
`01:07.55`	`\|Jelly\|`	`~hug Peppy`
`01:07.56`	`purl`	`ACTION jumps into Peppy's lap and huggles and hugs Peppy`
`01:08.05`	`Tekkub`	`because I call you "Floppy penny"?`
`01:08.25`	Funkeh`	`could this discussion get worse`
`01:08.30`	`Tem`	`yes`
`01:08.31`	`Tem`	`don't ask`
`01:08.39`	`Tekkub`	`too late, he did`
`01:08.40`	`Mikk`	`not really, things tend to get pretty retarded when tek & i start down that line`
`01:08.59`	`Mikk`	`well... a bit maybe`
`01:09.03`	`Tekkub`	`yea cockvore is usually the RESPONSE to "can this get any worse"`
`01:09.22`	Funkeh`	`:o`
`01:09.29`	`Mikk`	`we haven't mentioned orc porn yet though`
`01:09.32`	`Mikk`	`oh wait too late`
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`01:09.51`	Funkeh`	`orc porn?`
`01:09.51`	`Tekkub`	`"Thirteen inches!"`
`01:10.14`	Funkeh`	`I'd rather have some good gnome druid on gnome druid`
`01:10.33`	`Tem`	`gnomes make ugly druids`
`01:10.40`	`Tem`	`I tested with the drunk goggles`
`01:10.48`	`Mikk`	`playorc.com`
`01:10.53`	Funkeh`	`female gnomes with pink hair`
`01:11.11`	`Tekkub`	`I'd much rather have dorf druids`
`01:12.02`	Funkeh`	`you're so wrong on so many levels`
`01:12.09`	`Tekkub`	`what?`
`01:12.32`	`Tem`	`dworf druids would be pretty cool imo`
`01:12.43`	`Tekkub`	`lil stockey bears that can turn into bears`
`01:12.46`	`Tem`	`stoneform for tanking is pretty nice`
`01:12.52`	Funkeh`	`yes please give druids more ways of removing our poison with stoneform`
`01:13.41`	Funkeh`	`it's satisfactory enough killing night elves`
`01:13.48`	`Mikk`	`hey coggie`
`01:13.59`	Funkeh`	`knowing it took 30 min to do because because it's a damn resto ddruid ..`
`01:13.59`	`Mikk`	`seeing as how you're a right lua wizard now`
`01:14.14`	`Mikk`	`if you were to borrow the parameter passing from pcall and add that to xpcall`
`01:14.18`	`Mikk`	`and give that to slouken`
`01:14.24`	`Mikk`	`what are the chances it'd actually make it into the game? =)`
`01:15.07`	Funkeh`	`6.094/77.1+5`
`01:15.20`	`Mikk`	`as expressed on a scale of what?`
`01:15.31`	`cogwheel`	`Mikk: no greater than if you were to post a more detailed description of your suggestion here http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5784275032`
`01:15.35`	`cogwheel`	`;)`
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`01:15.57`	`Mikk`	`butbut that'd require me to dig around in the lua sources and i havent done that before! :P`
`01:16.23`	`cogwheel`	`well, you don't have to detail code, but something a bit more specific :P`
`01:16.44`	`Mikk`	`well yeah, but the benefit of you doing it would be that you could then very easily have it in your lua ;)`
`01:16.58`	`Tekkub`	`<Not in the FACE> <--- best guild name evar`
`01:17.08`	`cogwheel`	`hehe`
`01:17.25`	Funkeh`	`actually <Too Big To Fit In Here>`
`01:17.34`	Funkeh`	`female blood elf guild...`
`01:17.48`	`cogwheel`	`tbh, i don't know how keen they are on changes to standard lua functionality`
`01:17.55`	`Tekkub`	`I was in a tauren guild named <Two Percent>`
`01:18.04`	`Tekkub`	`I was the only "fully homogonized" member`
`01:18.05`	`Mikk`	`yeah i thought they didn't like it either`
`01:18.22`	`cogwheel`	`really the only changes they've made are to format (argument selection) and the introduction of taint`
`01:18.30`	`Tekkub`	`we had a troll that was "Non-dairy creamer" also`
`01:18.39`	Funkeh`	`lol`
`01:18.42`	`cogwheel`	`everything else is either an addition or "cosmetic" (like ignoring the UTF-8 byte order mark)`
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`01:19.04`	`Mikk`	`well i wouldnt mind an xxpcall either =))`
`01:19.28`	Funkeh`	`xxxpcall clearly`
`01:19.29`	`Tekkub`	`vistacall?`
`01:19.51`	`cogwheel`	`Mikk: you could always create a closure`
`01:20.00`	Funkeh`	`if tonumber(msg) <18 then return "no" end`
`01:20.05`	`cogwheel`	`it wouldn't add THAT much overhead unless it's a performance critical section`
`01:20.14`	`Mikk`	`well.. in this case, assume that it is`
`01:20.15`	`cogwheel`	`(and even then, you can keep a hash of the parameters)`
`01:20.22`	`Mikk`	`it's the ace3 event dispatcher i'm thinking of mainly`
`01:20.50`	`Mikk`	`someone (i forget who) came up with a really smart way of using loadstring()d code to handle different numbers of parameters`
`01:20.57`	`Mikk`	`but .. well.. an xxpcall would be so sexy :S`
`01:21.18`	`Mikk`	`i mean.. pcall ALMOST does what i want.. ALMOST`
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`01:22.34`	`Wargtass`	`hi yeall...`
`01:22.59`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Heyo.`
`01:23.08`	`Wargtass`	`is there any info on the gatherer and auctioneer addon sites... i cant reach em :(`
`01:23.10`	`cogwheel`	`actually... you wouldn't even need closures... you could just make a wrapper that uses pcall and then calls your own error function after it returns`
`01:23.18`	`Anaral`	`Egads. Someone on my server has a lvl 6 druid named, Ihzhtzfru.`
`01:23.31`	`Mikk`	`cogwheel: except that ruins the callstack and makes debugging hard`
`01:23.48`	`Mikk`	`we had that... but .. yeah...`
`01:23.51`	`Anaral`	`Wargtass: They are currently down, we hope to have them up sometime tomorrow.`
`01:24.18`	`Wargtass`	`anaral: Tanks :) was fearing it was gone ...`
`01:24.29`	`Mikk`	`regular old server horkage`
`01:24.45`	`Anaral`	`Nope. If you IRC often, then check #norganna's topic often`
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`01:28.23`	`Anaral`	`Welcome back again, everyone.`
`01:28.38`	`Tekkub`	`holy shit, a rogue I actually like...`
`01:29.00`	`Tekkub`	`he logs on, asks the guild "anything new with the maint today?" "Season 4..." "is that it?"`
`01:30.12`	`dylanm`	`Tekkub you don't like PvP?`
`01:30.12`	`Tekkub`	`no`
`01:30.15`	`Tekkub`	`it just ruins everything`
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`01:30.34`	`Tekkub`	`all in the name of "balance"`
`01:30.36`	`dylanm`	`I don't like PvP balancing, no.`
`01:30.45`	`dylanm`	`It's in the name of making WoW an e-sport.`
`01:30.48`	`Wargtass`	`1amL0st!`
`01:31.02`	`Tekkub`	`the word "e-sport" is so retarded...`
`01:31.13`	`dylanm`	`MLGGGGGGG`
`01:31.14`	`Tekkub`	`it embodies my hatred of pvp`
`01:31.31`	`dylanm`	`I'M A GET SPONSORED BY MOUNTAIN DEW`
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`01:32.02`	`dylanm`	`But I like running around and zapping bads.`
`01:32.22`	`Tekkub`	`"Sure, it tastes like piss when it's warm, but it gives me all the fucking energy I need to be a total prick in the arenassssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"`
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`01:35.48`	`Tekkub`	`quick everyone gossip!`
`01:35.48`	`Tekkub`	`I hear cair likes to lick cats`
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`01:36.55`	`Thunder_Child`	`lope, i dont think thats going to work quite the way you want it to`
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`01:37.52`	Funkeh`	`lolwut`
`01:37.52`	`Tekkub`	`this is too much fun`
`01:37.52`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Jelly love, some other different day when my back isn't sore, okay?`
`01:38.06`	`Tekkub`	`maybe if you weren't so damn floppy`
`01:38.35`	`Tekkub`	`I've run out of stupid things to say`
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`01:39.05`	Funkeh`	`talk in base64`
`01:39.05`	`Tekkub`	`really? me too!`
`01:39.58`	`Shirik`	`~kill calkins`
`01:39.59`	`purl`	`ACTION shoots a excited anti-neutrino gun at calkins`
`01:40.22`	Funkeh`	`bx v thrff ebg13 vf whfg nf tbbq`
`01:41.29`	`cogwheel`	`~lart freenode`
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`01:41.33`	`cogwheel`	`~botsmack`
`01:41.33`	`purl`	`OWW!`
`01:41.33`	`Tekkub`	You're right Funkeh`, Lopeppeppy does sound like a freak
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`01:42.31`	`cogwheel`	`can't stand that malreth guy`
`01:43.13`	`Shirik`	`freenode dying stuff should be over now :P`
`01:43.23`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Oh really, Shirik dear?`
`01:43.27`	`Shirik`	`for those of you that don't watch wallops`
`01:43.44`	`Tekkub`	`freenode's having issues?`
`01:43.47`	Funkeh`	`Tekkub, ÈÅ½Ù@Â¤Ã@ÂÂÄ£`
`01:43.57`	`Shirik`	`(21:44:58) !dmwaters! Hi all, the routing was a bit more disruptive then expected but we're all settled now i think. Thank you all for your patience`
`01:44.10`	Funkeh`	`k maybe too hard`
`01:44.37`	Funkeh`	`Tekkub, lbh'er fhpu n fyhg`
`01:44.41`	`cogwheel`	`hai2u`
`01:45.17`	`malreth`	`cogwheel: i'm a changed man`
`01:45.39`	`cogwheel`	`malreth: gain weight?`
`01:45.42`	`cogwheel`	`<.<`
`01:45.43`	`cogwheel`	`>.>`
`01:45.44`	`malreth`	`ever since i've accepted Jesus Christ into my heart as my lord and savior`
`01:45.56`	`cogwheel`	`/darthvadernoooooooooooo`
`01:46.01`	Funkeh`	`lol...`
`01:46.22`	Funkeh`	`eat drink and be merry?`
`01:47.00`	Funkeh`	`man i'm still pulling out chop from between my teeth from 7 hours ago`
`01:47.21`	`malreth`	`sounds like a good meal`
`01:47.27`	Funkeh`	`damn right`
`01:51.26`	`Shirik`	`~netsplit`
`01:51.26`	`purl`	`netsplit is probably something that happens when two IRC servers lose their link, thus isolating the users on every side from each other. a normal part of ALL irc networks, despite what some people bitching about larger networks may seem to think, or an orchestra of poips and thwoops, or something which occurs frequently on OPN`
`01:51.40`	`Shirik`	`:(`
`01:52.02`	`Tekkub`	`HAHA`
`01:52.02`	`Tekkub`	`THEY LIED`
`01:52.02`	`Shirik`	`there we go`
`01:52.02`	`Shirik`	`Tekkub: (21:53:49) !dmwaters! Erm, so i forgot to move one server, 1 more split incoming then we're done, i promise:)`
`01:52.02`	`Shirik`	`why do you think I knew that netsplit was incoming :)`
`01:52.10`	`Tekkub`	`because you're psychotic`
`01:52.24`	`Shirik`	`well this is true`
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`01:52.46`	`Shirik`	`I wonder what they're doing though`
`01:52.52`	`Shirik`	`some big move`
`01:55.14`	Funkeh`	`astrolabe like to call GetMinimapShape Often :(`
`01:55.59`	`MentalPower`	Funkeh`: thats allowed as per GetMinimapShape's spec
`01:56.01`	`Corrodias`	`astrolube`
`01:56.10`	`MentalPower`	`~lart Corrodias`
`01:56.10`	`purl`	`holds Corrodias to the floor and spanks him with a cat-o-nine-tails`
`01:56.28`	`Lopeppeppy`	`...`
`01:57.15`	Funkeh`	`MentalPower, less of a matter of allowed and more of a matter of needed`
`01:57.37`	`MentalPower`	Funkeh`: specifically "It is possible this function will be called once a frame, so it is recommended not to do anything CPU-intensive in calculating the shape. "
`01:58.20`	`Tekkub`	`well crap, I have to derive pi in Squeenix`
`01:58.20`	Funkeh`	`well "return SHAPE" still seems to suck a lot of cpu, at least my minimap addon gets quite a shitload of blame`
`01:59.05`	`MentalPower`	`it shouldn't, if it really is just "return 'some-shape-goes-here'"`
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`02:16.38`	`Sargeras`	`Dooooollllllllbbbbyyy`
`02:16.39`	`Sargeras`	`sir wake up`
`02:16.46`	`Sargeras`	`who's been idle for one minute`
`02:21.21`	`Tem`	`you could try pinging him properly?`
`02:22.20`	`MentalPower`	`Dolby: ping! ^^^^`
`02:25.00`	`Shirik`	`what do you need Sargeras?`
`02:25.23`	Funkeh`	`sexual favours obviously`
`02:27.41`	`Mikk`	`in other news, don't shadowstep nightbane while he's flying`
`02:27.44`	`Mikk`	`hilarity ensues`
`02:28.22`	`MentalPower`	`lol`
`02:28.30`	Funkeh`	`lol`
`02:28.43`	`Sargeras`	`nothing really`
`02:28.48`	`Sargeras`	`just wanted to talk to him about Vegas`
`02:29.15`	`Mikk`	`the rogue plops down on the ground. nightbane summons half the raid down on the ground and leaves the other half up there, and then proceeds with evading for a bit, and then firebolt volleys everyone til dead`
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`02:33.40`	`Tem`	`rofl`
`02:33.53`	Funkeh`	`hehe`
`02:40.37`	`Mikk`	`right.. 20k worth of LPS up on the AH... bring on S4`
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`02:44.49`	`MentalPower`	`the hell`
`02:44.57`	`cogwheel`	`seriously...`
`02:45.06`	`cogwheel`	`it's supposed to be all caps with an !, not a .`
`02:46.01`	`Lopeppeppy`	`urk.`
`02:46.09`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Evening, Lunessa-dear.`
`02:46.15`	`Lunessa`	`Evening.`
`02:47.31`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Lunessa: tar and feathers`
`02:48.07`	`Lunessa`	`ScytheBlade1: You waited like 2+ hours to make that joke? ~Fishslap`
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`02:51.20`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Lunessa: no, I just have a weird memory`
`02:51.41`	`Lunessa`	`chuckle And you write combat log parsing code while raiding.`
`02:51.47`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Also true`
`02:57.02`	`Lunessa`	`~onjoin Lunessa ... STATION!`
`02:57.03`	`purl`	`ok, Lunessa`
`02:57.24`	`Lunessa`	`Fixt`
`02:57.52`	`Lunessa`	`Scytheblade1 set it up originally. I just laughed and let it go.`
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`03:00.04`	`Lopeppeppy`	`I think that purl script will get old quickly`
`03:00.12`	`dylanm`	`Most of them do.`
`03:00.24`	`Lunessa`	`You'll see it about as often as I used to do it manually.`
`03:01.08`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Yes, but you did it manually, dear.`
`03:01.35`	`Lunessa`	`~onjoin Lunessa`
`03:01.35`	`purl`	`onjoin for lunessa set by lunessa on Tue Jun 24 20:57:03 2008: ... STATION!`
`03:01.50`	`Lunessa`	`I guess blank doesn't remove it.`
`03:02.07`	`ScytheBlade1`	`~onjoin -lunessa`
`03:02.07`	`purl`	`ok, ScytheBlade1`
`03:02.36`	`ScytheBlade1`	`~onjoin Lunessa`
`03:03.00`	`Lunessa`	`I was just reading the help... but I did it privately.`
`03:03.08`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Ah. heh`
`03:03.47`	`Lunessa`	`It loves me, it does.`
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`03:10.15`	`Shirik`	`MTWTHF 11:00AM 01:00PM DB`
`03:10.21`	`Shirik`	`who put that class at that time`
`03:11.15`	`Lopeppeppy`	`I sure hope the professor is flexible about snackage.`
`03:11.17`	`Anaral`	`Someone that likes students for lunch`
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`04:09.16`	`Cadwgawn`	`So, I'm trying to get into ui dev, can anyone tell me some good resources to learn from?`
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`04:11.09`	`Iriel`	`Online there are the many sticky threads in the wow UI and Macros forum`
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`04:11.22`	`Iriel`	`In paper form, there's "World of Warcraft Programming"`
`04:12.06`	`Iriel`	`Plus community forums on wowinterface.com, wowace and various other addon sites`
`04:12.16`	`Cadwgawn`	`K, thank you very much ^_^`
`04:13.18`	`Iriel`	`no problem 8-)`
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`04:14.14`	`Iriel`	`Iriel Speaks - IRC Netsplits`
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`04:20.24`	`Shirik`	`Iriel has power`
`04:20.28`	`Shirik`	`anyway, night time`
`04:26.16`	`MentalPower`	`geesh`
`04:26.22`	`MentalPower`	`whats with the netsplits today`
`04:26.45`	`batrick`	`19:21:52 Freenode/- dmwaters!i=dmwaters@freenode/staff/gentoo.dmwaters - {global notice} Good day all, I need to do a bunch of rerouting to prep for an outage tomorrow. If all goes well, this should not take long. Any further messages about this will be given in wallops, '/mode your_nick w' to see them. Thank you for your patience, and thank you for using freenode!`
`04:26.56`	`batrick`	`l2read notices!`
`04:27.48`	`MentalPower`	`I read the wallops, but completely missed the notice`
`04:27.56`	`batrick`	`or get a real irc client =)`
`04:28.01`	`MentalPower`	`:P`
`04:28.34`	`MentalPower`	`I don't think I'm ready for irssi or any other commandline IRC client`
`04:28.44`	`batrick`	`it's ez`
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`04:32.01`	`Thunder_Child`	`http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/24/uniden-introduces-19-inch-hello-kitty-lcd-tv-parents-weep/`
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`04:46.03`	`Thunder_Child`	`anyone remember what the name for the I in a typing program is?`
`04:46.20`	`MentalPower`	`pipe`
`04:46.30`	`Thunder_Child`	`i thought that was \|`
`04:46.45`	`MentalPower`	`what is that a lowercase L ?`
`04:46.49`	`MentalPower`	`l`
`04:46.54`	`MentalPower`	`elle`
`04:47.01`	`Thunder_Child`	`no, the '\' button has \|`
`04:47.08`	`Thunder_Child`	`what i did was a caps i`
`04:47.12`	`MentalPower`	`I`
`04:47.20`	`MentalPower`	`ok...`
`04:47.38`	`MentalPower`	`I = eye, l = elle, \| = pipe/bar`
`04:48.13`	`Thunder_Child`	`ok, thanks....though i thik there is a technical name for that in writing programs`
`04:48.24`	`MentalPower`	`writing programs?`
`04:48.38`	`Thunder_Child`	`like word`
`04:48.53`	`Iriel`	`Uppercase latin I ?`
`04:49.01`	`MentalPower`	`I still don't know what you're looking for`
`04:49.31`	`Thunder_Child`	`no, it had a name like "inster point" or something like that`
`04:49.35`	`Thunder_Child`	`insert*`
`04:50.00`	`Iriel`	`You mean the cursor, that's like a pipe with sprouts on the top and bottom`
`04:50.06`	`Iriel`	`it's NOT an uppercase I`
`04:50.35`	`Thunder_Child`	`actually i mean the flashing thing`
`04:50.40`	`MentalPower`	`cursor`
`04:50.50`	`Thunder_Child`	`no, it had a specific name`
`04:50.56`	`MentalPower`	`caret?`
`04:51.09`	`Thunder_Child`	`that might be it...`
`04:51.30`	`Iriel`	`^ is a caret`
`04:51.37`	`Thunder_Child`	`ya, just got that`
`04:52.13`	`MentalPower`	`I've always called ^ a hat, but I'm weird so w/e :)`
`04:52.57`	`Tekkub`	`http://xkcd.com/441/`
`04:53.02`	`Thunder_Child`	`i guess it doesnt have a name`
`04:53.02`	`Tekkub`	`WTB tshirt!`
`04:53.03`	`Thunder_Child`	`"In most command line interfaces, the cursor is an underscore, a solid rectangle, or a vertical line, which may be flashing or steady, indicating where text will be placed when entered (the insertion point)."`
`04:54.09`	`Sixen`	`~seen duman`
`04:54.10`	`purl`	`duman is currently on #wowuidev, last said: 'or ipfw might do it'.`
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`05:05.50`	`Sixen`	`I'd recommend the World of Warcraft Programming book, =o.`
`05:06.05`	`Sixen`	`Oh damn. That was a while ago. /fail`
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`05:26.28`	`duaiwe`	`Is it possible to buy gamecards entirely online? & get the number online and everything? Or is there any other easy way to essentially buy wow time for someone else?`
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`05:35.02`	`Sixen`	`~seen duman`
`05:35.04`	`purl`	`duman is currently on #wowuidev, last said: 'or ipfw might do it'.`
`05:35.08`	`Sixen`	`=X`
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`05:56.12`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`... anyone?`
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`05:56.20`	`Thunder_Child`	`no`
`05:58.10`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`...`
`05:59.46`	`Thunder_Child`	`what? all you said was ... anyone?`
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`06:01.41`	`Tem`	`wow`
`06:01.48`	`Tem`	`that was the most epic pug I've ever been in`
`06:01.53`	`Tem`	`we just cleared all of kara`
`06:02.01`	`Tem`	`with most of the raid being completely undergeared for it`
`06:02.05`	`Tem`	`(including both tanks)`
`06:02.06`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Thunder_Child: i asked a question a little bit ago, was hoping for SOME kind of answer. ;)`
`06:02.11`	`Tem`	`in a pug!`
`06:02.22`	`Tem`	`neither of the tanks had ever been to kara either`
`06:02.48`	`Tekkub`	`Tem's bored, he has to make shit up`
`06:02.57`	`Tem`	`nope`
`06:02.59`	`Gnarfoz`	`NightHawkTheSane: err when? :p`
`06:03.05`	`Thunder_Child`	`NightHawkTheSane, over 2 hours ago?`
`06:03.13`	`Tem`	`I just healed a blue-geared tank through kara in my okay-ish healing gear`
`06:03.15`	`Thunder_Child`	`cuse i looked that far back and didnt see anything`
`06:04.18`	`Gnarfoz`	`as long as he's crit immune and knows where his shield block key is, he's bound to be fine`
`06:04.36`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Thunder_Child, Gnarfoz like 20 minutes ago, i was on a different nick, though`
`06:04.43`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`didn't notice i'd d/c'd and reconnected`
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`06:05.02`	`Gnarfoz`	`ah, there. and: no idea.`
`06:05.04`	`Gnarfoz`	`:>`
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`06:10.36`	`Thunder_Child`	`NightHawkTheSane, i doubt it, to much ability to abuse it`
`06:11.23`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`><`
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`06:23.34`	`zethe`	`lol`
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`07:47.28`	`Nechckn`	`Howdy, what's up?`
`07:49.33`	`clad\|sleep`	`if we know anyone who is going to WWI, send them my way`
`07:49.37`	`clad\|sleep`	`I want to try to meet up if possible`
`07:50.02`	`Thunder_Child`	`your a few years to late clad`
`07:50.19`	`cladhaire`	`hasn't that joke gotten old yet?`
`07:50.32`	`Thunder_Child`	`it's not my fault people uesd WWI for whatever your talking about`
`07:50.43`	`cladhaire`	`World Wide Invitational 2008`
`07:50.59`	`Thunder_Child`	`sure, that. blame blizz, not me`
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`08:08.58`	`batrick`	`cladhaire: as long as it leaves you disgruntled, people will continue using it :)`
`08:09.13`	`cladhaire`	`indeed :P`
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`08:53.28`	`Sixen`	`~seen cog`
`08:53.30`	`purl`	`i haven't seen 'cog', Sixen`
`08:56.42`	`Cairenn`	`~seen cogwheel`
`08:56.43`	`purl`	`cogwheel <n=cogwheel@WoWUIDev/WoWProgramming/morlando/cogwheel> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 6h 11m 37s ago, saying: 'it's supposed to be all caps with an !, not a .'.`
`08:56.56`	`Sixen`	`=[`
`08:59.33`	`Zurik`	`hi Sixen .. looks like you miss your buddy :)`
`08:59.43`	`Sixen`	`=/`
`08:59.48`	`Zurik`	`hehe.`
`08:59.56`	`Zurik`	`6hs isn't much lol`
`09:00.02`	`Zurik`	`hrs*`
`09:00.27`	`Zurik`	`what time is it where you live?`
`09:01.05`	`Sixen`	`2AM -- Arizona`
`09:01.34`	`wereHamster`	`is that same timezone as california?`
`09:01.39`	`Sixen`	`Yepp`
`09:01.47`	`Sixen`	`Well, i'm in -7, CA is -8, but the time is the same.`
`09:01.52`	`Zurik`	`yep.. cool so we all a bunch of late freights`
`09:02.02`	`Zurik`	`lol`
`09:02.29`	`Zurik`	`were it's about 2 states over from cali`
`09:04.39`	`Sixen`	`It's next to CA`
`09:05.04`	`Zurik`	`well there is navada between us a little.`
`09:05.31`	`Sixen`	`Truth.`
`09:05.34`	`Sixen`	`=P`
`09:05.37`	`Sixen`	`Well, I need to head to sleep.`
`09:05.43`	`Sixen`	`Gotta get up for work. I hate work.`
`09:06.02`	`Zurik`	`i don't.. I love it.. i work from home on my wow project :P`
`09:06.08`	`Zurik`	`http://wowcorefive.com check it out.`
`09:06.28`	`Sixen`	`=o`
`09:06.36`	`Sixen`	`You're working on that?`
`09:06.42`	`Zurik`	`yep.. :D`
`09:06.46`	`Zurik`	`proudly`
`09:06.58`	`Sixen`	`Saw that link yesterday or so... Thought it was an awesome idea, =p.`
`09:07.18`	`Zurik`	`you should see the addon protion of it.. it really comin together nicely :)`
`09:07.32`	`Cairenn`	`interesting looking Zurik`
`09:07.56`	`Zurik`	`thankya .. i think.. i'm not the best "Designer" i'm more of a programmer.`
`09:08.10`	`Zurik`	`but once were off n running.. it will get a face lift probably :)`
`09:08.38`	`Sixen`	`Well, night Cair and Zurik.`
`09:08.45`	`Zurik`	`night sixen :)`
`09:08.58`	`Cairenn`	`night Sixen, sweet dreams`
`09:09.00`	`Zurik`	`if you get a chance signup to mailing list or beta.. and i'll keep ya posted on progress n stuff`
`09:09.14`	`Sixen`	`I actually was going to do it now Zurik, figured it can wait until morning though.`
`09:10.09`	`Zurik`	`night`
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`11:18.59`	`Zurik`	`anyone still up in this channel?`
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`11:28.57`	`Drundia`	`people in this channel never go down`
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`11:32.06`	`zenzio`	`I think sylvanaar wants to prove you wrong too`
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`11:36.34`	`zenzio`	`I blame you for this, Drundia`
`11:36.36`	`Roblibob`	`spammage`
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`11:38.39`	`Drundia`	`this is interesting`
`11:39.01`	`zenzio`	`Cairenn\|afk, cladhaire, Dolby, Shirik?`
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`11:39.59`	`cncfanatics`	`w000t I PASSED`
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`11:40.05`	`zenzio`	`grats`
`11:40.18`	`Drundia`	`"Xalag Pummel interrupted Your Shadowfury.", "Your Shadowfury hit Xalag <amount>" - so interrupted or not :O`
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`11:41.02`	`cncfanatics`	`Drundia: that happens when something is interrupted as it was castr`
`11:41.03`	`zenzio`	`Drundia: yeah, race condition or something... I've seen it several times (except the other way around, me interrupting yet still getting hit)`
`11:41.52`	`Drundia`	`interrupt reports to combat log fail`
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`11:42.04`	`Drundia`	`sometimes there is no message, but interrupt happens`
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`11:43.24`	`zenzio`	`come on, some operator wake up already`
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`11:43.29`	`Drundia`	`i remember "Name cast Earth Shock You", "You begain to cast something", "Name Earth Shock hit You amount" - spell is interrupted`
`11:45.52`	`cncfanatics`	`whats up zenzio ?`
`11:46.46`	`zenzio`	`sylvan was still showing no sign of his connection stabilizing... but apparently it did`
`11:46.54`	`zenzio`	`or not..?`
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`11:47.05`	`Drundia`	`From what I see "interrupt" message is generated together with "cast" message, but interrupt actually occurs with a slight delay. I'd call it a bug.`
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`11:47.45`	`zenzio`	`I think it might actually be some sort of grace period, to allow for latency or something... like when you and an opponent both kill each other with melee swings`
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`11:48.33`	`zenzio`	`but that's very much speculation on my part`
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`11:48.48`	`Drundia`	`interrupt message should match the actual interrupted spell, because i believe if you chain one spell after another, there may be interrupt message for one, while other would be interrupted`
`11:49.09`	`zenzio`	`good point`
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`12:37.55`	`Shirik`	`zenzio?`
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`12:40.21`	`zenzio`	`much too late, his connection settled :-p`
`12:40.31`	`zenzio`	`but scroll up and you'll see what I was aiming at`
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`12:41.41`	`Shirik`	`oh that sucks :P`
`12:44.40`	`Kaso`	`http://stupidinter.net/his-iclear.jpg`
`12:44.53`	`Kaso`	`(an actual product)`
`12:45.23`	`Shirik`	`not that far-fetched tbh`
`12:45.27`	`cncfanatics`	`lol ?`
`12:45.28`	`cncfanatics`	`wtf ?`
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`12:46.10`	`Shirik`	`That's probably cheaper than cutting it down`
`12:46.26`	`Shirik`	`PCB manufacturing is very strange`
`12:46.28`	`Kaso`	`wait till you hear what it does`
`12:46.47`	`Kaso`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:46.50`	`Shirik`	`well it's just a bunch of caps from what I can tell`
`12:46.52`	`Shirik`	`it looks like a filter`
`12:47.10`	`Shirik`	`hey I was right`
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`12:47.58`	`Kaso`	`Because i know i spend every moment i play games thinking, wow the signal to noise ratio on this is so poor the distortion is driving me mad!!!`
`12:48.04`	`Kaso`	`oh and its $79.99 ><`
`12:48.12`	`Shirik`	`are you serious?`
`12:48.17`	`Kaso`	`http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16800997026`
`12:48.19`	`Shirik`	`if you really want one I can build you one for less than a dollar`
`12:48.32`	`Shirik`	`it's just a bunch of caps and a few SMT resistors`
`12:48.46`	`Shirik`	`they aren't even all filled`
`12:48.52`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Shirik-dear, YOU can build one. :)`
`12:49.00`	`Shirik`	`I can build it and send it to him :P`
`12:49.12`	`Kaso`	`who'd want one of those`
`12:49.29`	`Shirik`	`Well it sounds like one of those epeen++ things`
`12:49.46`	`Shirik`	`maybe I'll make one with some neon lights on it`
`12:50.01`	`Kaso`	`i do like the 6 empty cap slots. its like they thought, yah know, i dont think we can afford these 6 extra capacitors in our profit magin, better loose them.`
`12:50.36`	`haste`	`it costs 80$, how can they not afford it :p ?`
`12:50.42`	`cncfanatics`	`sad :s`
`12:50.45`	`cncfanatics`	`can homebuild that crap`
`12:50.45`	`Shirik`	`I mean, I'll be honest Kaso, the theory behind it makes sense. It really is a filter (I can't tell what kind without seeing the traces, which are likely on the other side of the card). Will it increase performance? I don't think so`
`12:50.46`	`cncfanatics`	`easely`
`12:51.12`	`Shirik`	`wait wait hold up`
`12:51.15`	`Shirik`	`I found the other side of the card`
`12:51.20`	`Kaso`	`http://img.waffleimages.com/b7ac0cad8c88a168fb3d806e1bb253ce46fad156/00-997-026-05.jpg (the back)`
`12:51.23`	`Kaso`	`yah`
`12:51.40`	`Shirik`	`unless they're using a third layer (which is VERY expensive)..... this card does nothing`
`12:51.40`	`Kaso`	`couldnt it be like multi-layed though with the traces in the center?`
`12:51.47`	`Shirik`	`it could be, but it's expensive to do that`
`12:51.52`	`Shirik`	`nobody does that unless you absolutely have to`
`12:51.57`	`Kaso`	`hmm thats odd..`
`12:52.11`	`Shirik`	`I want to buy one just to test it now`
`12:52.28`	`Kaso`	`http://www.digit-life.com/articles3/monitor/his-iclear.html`
`12:52.48`	`Kaso`	`check out those graphs with almost identical traces`
`12:54.38`	`Shirik`	`any deviation I would attribute to either statistical variation or crosstalk right now :P`
`12:54.47`	`Shirik`	`until I see that it's actually connected`
`12:56.09`	`Shirik`	`funny thing is`
`12:56.20`	`Shirik`	`you CAN increase performance if you put that card inbetween a graphics card and sound card for example`
`12:56.29`	`Kalroth`	`I don't see any boobies though`
`12:56.39`	`Shirik`	`but you can achieve the same effect by putting an insulated aluminum plate in between them too`
`12:57.44`	`Kaso`	`I'm putting this device in the same box as Monster cables`
`12:58.59`	`Shirik`	`the "theoretically could make a difference but totally not worth it" box?`
`12:59.13`	`Lopeppeppy`	`The "why waste money and materials" box. :)`
`12:59.24`	`Kalroth`	`no, the "you're a dumbass if you waste money on this" box`
`12:59.27`	`Kaso`	`*and is marketed to people who have more money than sense`
`12:59.34`	`Shirik`	`you know, when I worked for Best Buy, we had these cables that were better than monster cables, I forget what they're called. They cost hundreds of dollars`
`12:59.37`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Like so many things, Kaso.`
`12:59.43`	`Shirik`	`while I worked there, I could buy them for something like $10`
`13:00.07`	`Shirik`	`some of the things capitalists do is sad :P`
`13:00.29`	`Kaso`	`http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/3429.asp`
`13:01.41`	`Kaso`	`i hope that is a price typo`
`13:01.44`	`haste`	`:<`
`13:02.20`	`Kalroth`	`what the flying fuck`
`13:02.25`	`Kalroth`	`$500 ethernet cables`
`13:02.49`	`Shirik`	`1.5 meters?`
`13:03.16`	`Shirik`	`signal direction markings?`
`13:03.17`	`Shirik`	`wtf`
`13:03.32`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Signal.... direction.....`
`13:03.56`	`Shirik`	`I need to go into the cable business`
`13:04.02`	`Shirik`	`tons of money there`
`13:05.19`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Lots of stupid people out there.`
`13:05.52`	`Kaso`	`it says "DENON LINK is a proprietary high-grade digital audio interface from DENON." But thats cllearly just a 8P8C+S/STP`
`13:06.10`	`Lopeppeppy`	`I amused my salesperson the other day by knowing exactly what I wanted - 100 feet of cat5 cable. He was trying to get me to buy several 25 lengths instead....`
`13:08.55`	`Kaso`	`buying network cables from highstreet stores is always a rip of`
`13:09.22`	`Kaso`	`Â£10 for a 15m length?! ive got the parts at home to make one of these for like 20p`
`13:09.24`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Yes, but my helpful IT connection is on vacation and I needed my home network.`
`13:10.12`	`Kaso`	`Crimping network cables is fun`
`13:12.30`	`Shirik`	`it is`
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`13:13.22`	`Kaso`	`though last time i did a bunch i had to re-make like 15% of them or something, i really wasnt paying attention properlly`
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`13:14.41`	`Shirik`	`it's more fun rewiring a serial cable`
`13:14.58`	`Shirik`	`figuring out which tx is actually tx, which rx is actually rx`
`13:15.09`	`Shirik`	`which side is pin 1`
`13:15.19`	`Kaso`	`arent they color coded for ease of use?`
`13:15.37`	`Shirik`	`oh they are, but thing is`
`13:15.42`	`Shirik`	`on one side, you use tx to transmit`
`13:15.45`	`Shirik`	`on the other side, you use rx to transmit`
`13:15.50`	`Kaso`	`oh i see ofc`
`13:16.01`	`Shirik`	`and the color scheme is stupid`
`13:16.09`	`Shirik`	`EVERYONE knows ground is green or black`
`13:16.15`	`Shirik`	`both of which exist in the cable`
`13:16.18`	`Shirik`	`neither of which are ground`
`13:16.23`	`Shirik`	`ground is yellow iirc`
`13:16.27`	`Shirik`	`YELLOW IS POWER NOT GROUND`
`13:16.43`	`Shirik`	`sorry </rant>`
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`13:27.44`	`Shirik`	`the what?`
`13:28.16`	`Kalroth`	`poor Shirik :(`
`13:28.35`	`Kalroth`	`here, have this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCAjmuA1HDk`
`13:28.54`	`Shirik`	`oh crap, I was supposed to upload WWS last night`
`13:28.56`	`Shirik`	`dododo`
`13:29.24`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Thank you Kalroth. Both for knowing what I meant, and finding it. I assume that's what you found...`
`13:29.50`	`Kalroth`	`Weeell`
`13:29.53`	`Kalroth`	`Not really :P`
`13:30.16`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Darn.`
`13:30.35`	`Kalroth`	`I remember the movie, I'm not sure what scene though`
`13:32.28`	`Shirik`	`yes!`
`13:32.38`	`Shirik`	`I beat the resto shaman on najentus last night`
`13:32.40`	`Shirik`	`I'm satisfied`
`13:33.15`	`Shirik`	`ooh, beat him on akama too`
`13:34.28`	`Shirik`	`71% overheal with greater heal >.>`
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`14:01.11`	`cncfanatics`	`anyone can remember me what the new processors of intel were called ?`
`14:01.14`	`cncfanatics`	`2G or something ?`
`14:02.12`	`Elkano`	`atom?`
`14:03.06`	`cncfanatics`	`ty`
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`14:03.46`	`Shirik`	`my friend lied to me`
`14:03.50`	`Shirik`	`I knew I was a day early!`
`14:03.59`	`Shirik`	`Classes start tomorrow not today`
`14:04.07`	`Elkano`	`haha`
`14:04.22`	`Shirik`	`it's good, that means I have all day today just to relax`
`14:04.32`	`Legorol`	`what a nice friend`
`14:04.40`	`Shirik`	`but I could have slept in :(`
`14:05.00`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Um.... kill your friend a little for me?`
`14:05.20`	`Shirik`	`nah he's a good guy`
`14:05.32`	`Shirik`	`besides, he's the only one I understand when we're talking programming nonsense`
`14:05.36`	`Lopeppeppy`	`He deprive you of sleeps!`
`14:05.42`	`Lopeppeppy`	`But... common language is nice.`
`14:05.42`	`Shirik`	`er, the only one that understands me*`
`14:05.51`	`Shirik`	`common language is boring :P`
`14:06.00`	`Shirik`	`I like to use thallasian myself`
`14:06.21`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Rawr?`
`14:06.25`	`Shirik`	`rawr.`
`14:08.50`	`cncfanatics`	`thaurahe > al`
`14:08.54`	`cncfanatics`	`s/al/all/`
`14:09.21`	`Lopeppeppy`	`I prefer French but I'm not THAT overloaded with options to be choosy.`
`14:10.00`	`cncfanatics`	`french people know so much languages :p`
`14:10.06`	`cncfanatics`	`french, french, french, french and french`
`14:10.16`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Yes, yes indeed.`
`14:14.06`	`Shirik`	`you can use barkskin while stunned/feared/asleep?`
`14:14.16`	`Shirik`	`didn't know that`
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`14:15.58`	`Hapnintwo`	`Hi`
`14:20.29`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Morning`
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`14:28.15`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Query: good kinds of pie?`
`14:29.20`	`Shirik`	`cherry, oreo`
`14:29.31`	`Shirik`	`smores`
`14:29.53`	`Shirik`	`those hershey pies from burger king`
`14:30.52`	`Lopeppeppy`	`warm apple with a few cherries thrown in for pizzazz.`
`14:31.14`	`Lopeppeppy`	`strawberry rhubarb but only if the rhubarb is actually like, ripe.`
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`14:32.27`	`Legorol`	`rhubarb, brrr`
`14:32.32`	`Legorol`	`how can you eat that thing`
`14:32.49`	`AckisWork`	`Legorol: open mouth, put it in, chew, swallow`
`14:32.56`	`AckisWork`	`standard steps to eating anything`
`14:33.08`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Yup.`
`14:33.51`	`Legorol`	`I have tried to run the Digest program on rhubarb, but I tend to get a Fatal Exception in the Chew component.`
`14:34.21`	`Legorol`	`I think Taste Buds are throwing the exception, but I'd need to analyze the whole Mouth block more carefully.`
`14:37.01`	`AckisWork`	`we used to have plants by the garage when I was younger... I'd pee on them because I thought it was funny (no we never ate them)`
`14:37.35`	`Shirik`	`~lart Legorol`
`14:37.35`	`purl`	`eats Legorol and falls over dead`
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`15:06.09`	`cncfanatics`	`what CPU/amount of memory/gfx card would people recommend for a laptop ?`
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`15:22.37`	`Shirik`	`cncfanatics: My laptop handles wow very well`
`15:23.11`	`Shirik`	`it's 4GB RAM, 2.8GHz, I forget what graphics card but it's not very good`
`15:23.53`	`zenzelezz`	`and it has a battery time of 15 minutes`
`15:25.32`	`cncfanatics`	`Shirik: what processor ?`
`15:25.38`	`cncfanatics`	`I mean, exactly, not just the clock`
`15:25.43`	`cncfanatics`	`I need at least 3hr of batery though`
`15:25.46`	`cncfanatics`	`for train trajects`
`15:25.53`	`Shirik`	`it hits that easily`
`15:26.04`	`Shirik`	`it's a pentium M I believe`
`15:26.10`	`Shirik`	`I don't have it with me atm so I can't really check`
`15:26.15`	`cncfanatics`	`kay`
`15:26.17`	`cncfanatics`	`dual core ?`
`15:26.34`	`Shirik`	`yes`
`15:26.44`	`Shirik`	`make sure to get the centrino technology`
`15:26.48`	`Shirik`	`it will get you good battery life`
`15:27.20`	`Mikk`	`yes, guys running around in white hazmat suits = win`
`15:27.29`	`Shirik`	`o.o`
`15:27.38`	`Lukian`	`cncfanatics, 2-4gb ram, any nvidia/ati mobile graphics scard`
`15:27.52`	`Mikk`	`oh come on... i suck at watching tv and even _I_ saw those commercials`
`15:27.54`	`cncfanatics`	`ati ? no thanks`
`15:28.01`	`cncfanatics`	`gimme nvidia for my linux :p`
`15:28.01`	`Mikk`	`granted i prolly saw them a long time ago :o)`
`15:28.32`	`Shirik`	`I'm 99% sure this is the laptop I have: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8770582&type=product&id=1203815723071`
`15:28.34`	`cncfanatics`	`Mikk: I never, ever, ever, watch TV`
`15:28.47`	`Lukian`	`cncfanatics, indeed ;)`
`15:29.08`	`cncfanatics`	`Shirik: I'm mainly looking for something with a decent processor`
`15:29.16`	`cncfanatics`	`planning to wire it up to a docking station to play good games`
`15:29.23`	`cncfanatics`	`so gfx card doesn't matter but mem & cpu does a lot :p`
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`15:31.33`	Funkeh`	`is anyone doing a diff for the new ptr update`
`15:31.45`	`Lukian`	`yeah cpu is your roll bottleneck, especially under linux gaming :D`
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`15:32.39`	Funkeh`	`damn slackers`
`15:36.13`	Funkeh`	`can i blame Shirik ?`
`15:38.45`	`cncfanatics`	`~failrik`
`15:38.46`	`purl`	`FAIL, Shirik, FAIL!`
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`15:42.49`	`cog\|work`	`this is depressing... http://www.fire.ca.gov/index_incidents.php`
`15:43.20`	`AckisWork`	`cog: you're canadian eh?`
`15:43.38`	`cog\|work`	`not last i checked...`
`15:43.40`	`Matrix110`	`ca.gov = california`
`15:43.43`	`AckisWork`	`hehe`
`15:43.51`	`AckisWork`	`didn't see the .gov`
`15:44.21`	`cog\|work`	`i am a subject of teh terminatz00r`
`15:44.46`	`AckisWork`	`lol`
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`15:54.38`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`So.`
`15:54.49`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`What's the latest on speculation about the blizzard splash page?`
`15:55.18`	`zenzelezz`	`I think it's Warcraft 4: The Thawing Throne`
`15:56.47`	`cncfanatics`	`I think its diablo 504`
`15:56.52`	`cncfanatics`	`and world of starcraft 25`
`15:57.16`	`durcyn`	`the runes behind the ice are from frostmourne`
`15:57.21`	`durcyn`	`qed`
`16:01.12`	`Hapnintwo`	`And Starcraft Ghost: Novas corpse`
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`16:08.11`	`Fisker-`	`diablo 3`
`16:10.07`	`AckisWork`	`imagine if the diabloe, starcraft and warcraft universes... were all the same?!?!`
`16:10.35`	`ckknight`	`...no`
`16:10.38`	`cog\|work`	`wow... all these blizzard fansites are crawling this morning`
`16:10.39`	`Fisker-`	`Who says they aren't?`
`16:10.46`	`Fisker-`	`cog\|work`
`16:10.48`	`Fisker-`	`you are my world`
`16:10.57`	`Snago`	`Draenei is the new race in SC2 :P`
`16:10.59`	`cog\|work`	`You wanted me to say NO U, didn't you?`
`16:11.07`	`cog\|work`	`almost worked too`
`16:11.08`	`AckisWork`	`ckknight: we have zerglings and diablo's in WoW :P`
`16:11.13`	`Fisker-`	`unfortunately i'm also a polluting coal power plant`
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`16:16.51`	`cog\|work`	`hai peppy`
`16:16.53`	`\|Jelly\|`	`PEPPY! /hug`
`16:16.53`	`cog\|work`	`& MentalPower`
`16:17.04`	`MentalPower`	`hai`
`16:17.11`	`cog\|work`	`& \|Jelly\|`
`16:17.12`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Heya, guys.`
`16:17.32`	`\|Jelly\|`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:18.34`	`cog\|work`	`/wipe`
`16:18.57`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Yik!`
`16:18.59`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Hey everyone, look at me! I'm referencing the Macro guide instead of making a post asking how to do something!`
`16:19.07`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Yay, \|Jelly\| !`
`16:19.12`	`ckknight`	`grats, \|Jelly\|`
`16:19.37`	`cog\|work`	`ONOES U R BAD TROLLZ`
`16:20.03`	`AckisWork`	`why not just ask in the channel how to make a random mount macro?`
`16:20.32`	`\|Jelly\|`	`The irony there is endless, considering what I was looking up.`
`16:20.34`	`Lopeppeppy`	`... giggle`
`16:20.54`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Couldn't remember the exact syntax of the [flyable] condition`
`16:21.14`	`\|Jelly\|`	`I was typing [flying] ... which I knew wasn't right but I just couldn't remember.`
`16:21.22`	`Lopeppeppy`	`I like handy gnomish reference guides. All of the best stickies in the forum were done by gnomes. preens`
`16:21.31`	`AckisWork`	`lol \|Jelly\|`
`16:21.45`	`\|Jelly\|`	`I'm AWESOME! SHH!`
`16:21.51`	`AckisWork`	`actually a macro question: target=foo works only when foo is a unitid or a player in your group/raid? can foo be a mob name? (I've tried without success)`
`16:22.03`	`durcyn`	`AckisWork: No, never.`
`16:22.52`	`durcyn`	`[flyable] has a certain... je ne sais quois`
`16:23.00`	`cog\|work`	`[nocanfly] has more`
`16:23.01`	`zenzelezz`	`gnomes are such a paradox. So little mass, so great ego`
`16:23.13`	`AckisWork`	`zenzelezz: great for punting however`
`16:23.13`	`cog\|work`	`imo`
`16:23.52`	`Lopeppeppy`	`[canzfall] is better.`
`16:24.36`	`Fisker-`	`o hai cog\|work`
`16:29.24`	`Fisker-`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFKscf1AOXM&feature=related <-HOLY SHIT`
`16:33.03`	`wereHamster`	`hm.. [canfly], why not also [icanhazmount] ?`
`16:33.05`	`Kaso`	`That is a rather odd format...`
`16:33.21`	`\|Jelly\|`	`wereHamster: DOWANT`
`16:33.44`	`wereHamster`	`custom condition strings :)`
`16:34.58`	`ckknight`	`wereHamster: how?`
`16:36.14`	`wereHamster`	`[hai], [visible], [kthxbye], [gimmeh], [yarly] etc.`
`16:36.27`	`wereHamster`	`was just a suggestion`
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`16:43.15`	`Drundia`	`[cansigncodeassecure]`
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`16:46.18`	`wereHamster`	`is wow-europe.com down?`
`16:47.21`	`Anaral`	`Yay, more splits incoming, "-dmwaters-: {global notice} Good day all, In a few minutes I'm going to be rebooting one of our main us hubs. This will mean some splitting, but things should come back together rather quickly. Thank you for your patience, and thank you for using freenode!"`
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`16:48.50`	`Lunessa`	`STATION!`
`16:49.36`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Morning, Lunessa-dear. hug`
`16:53.11`	`cog\|work`	`NO U`
`16:54.26`	`Anaral`	`To get links to open in Firefox when I click on them here, the handler would be, "!firefox -remote 'openURL(%s)'" right?`
`16:55.21`	`Fisker-`	`cog\|work`
`16:55.30`	`Fisker-`	`Diablo 2 sucks because it's graphics are oudated!`
`16:55.41`	`Fisker-`	`brilliant observations some people do`
`16:56.52`	`ScytheBlade1`	`cog\|work: you stole my reply!`
`16:57.04`	`ScytheBlade1`	`(meta-discussion!)`
`16:57.10`	`foxlit`	`Bear in mind that you may be reading that wrong :)`
`16:57.54`	`foxlit`	`The statement could also be a positive comment on the quality of gameplay in diablo ii :)`
`16:58.04`	`DBE-Kinj`	`For priests, what is the ratio Stamina to HP?`
`16:58.08`	`durcyn`	`xyzzy`
`16:58.13`	`durcyn`	`man, good times.`
`16:58.23`	`foxlit`	`I was under impression it's 1:10 for everyone`
`16:58.36`	`Lunessa`	`indeed 1:10 for everyone.`
`16:58.40`	`DBE-Kinj`	`thanks`
`16:58.43`	`durcyn`	`foxlit: taurens, warlocks, combat rogues...`
`16:59.04`	`Mikk`	`prot paladins`
`16:59.07`	`foxlit`	`If you've got talents that alter it`
`16:59.08`	`Mikk`	`bearform druids`
`16:59.10`	`foxlit`	`You're aware of them`
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`16:59.31`	`foxlit`	`Without talents and active spells, the ratio is contanst, yeah?`
`16:59.35`	`foxlit`	`constant.`
`16:59.44`	`durcyn`	`oh, true.`
`16:59.48`	`cog\|work`	`ScytheBlade1: sue me`
`16:59.50`	`cog\|work`	`:P`
`16:59.57`	`ScytheBlade1`	`lol`
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`17:17.24`	`ScytheBlade1`	`ha, Vista's "energy saving" totally owned me`
`17:17.46`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Left a download going overnight, sit back down to see it wake back up from sleep.`
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`17:18.35`	`malreth`	`nonsense`
`17:18.41`	`malreth`	`it did exactly what you told it to`
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`17:18.59`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Yup`
`17:19.10`	`ScytheBlade1`	`And what I told it to do in the future has now changed :P`
`17:19.37`	`malreth`	`i remember when i saw my first demo of the BeOS`
`17:19.52`	`malreth`	`one of the engineers let me play with the dual processor bebox`
`17:20.11`	`malreth`	`i opened up the CPU application and promptly clicked the button to disable the first cpu`
`17:20.21`	`ScytheBlade1`	`lol`
`17:20.31`	`malreth`	`machine kept running`
`17:20.36`	`Kaso`	`what was your aim in that?`
`17:20.43`	`malreth`	`then i clicked the second button and the machine promptly froze`
`17:20.50`	`ScytheBlade1`	`hehe`
`17:20.51`	`Kaso`	`Hah`
`17:20.51`	`Josh_Borke`	`lol`
`17:20.57`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I can totally see myself doing that exact same thing`
`17:20.58`	`malreth`	`the engineer proudly explained that the computer did exactly what i told it to`
`17:21.03`	`Kaso`	`They let you disable both cpus thats great`
`17:21.16`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I have no problems with software doing that`
`17:21.33`	`ScytheBlade1`	`You pushed something you shouldn't have? Quit pushing that then!`
`17:21.46`	`malreth`	`sadly, they removed the ability to disable the last available cpu in BeOS R1. :(`
`17:21.58`	`malreth`	`but i still loved that demo`
`17:22.17`	`ScytheBlade1`	`lol I would have loved that too`
`17:23.36`	`malreth`	`that OS did stuff on 1998 era hardware that you still can't do now`
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`17:23.57`	`AbsoRayne`	`Oh hi, I upgraded ur Rayne`
`17:24.00`	`AbsoRayne`	`O_o`
`17:24.16`	`malreth`	`my favorite demo for friends was to play 30 MP3s backwards simultaneously`
`17:24.26`	`malreth`	`it was loud and noisy`
`17:24.35`	`malreth`	`and awful sounding`
`17:24.42`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Well, yeah`
`17:24.44`	`ScytheBlade1`	`They're mp3s`
`17:24.48`	`ScytheBlade1`	`What'd you expect?`
`17:24.51`	`malreth`	`:p`
`17:25.05`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Sorry, but that really /was/ just too easy to pass up`
`17:25.05`	`Tekkub`	`that's a wonderful feature... I can see why they were so successful`
`17:25.17`	`malreth`	`it wasn't a feature, persay`
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`17:25.39`	`malreth`	`just a demonstration of the sound kit`
`17:26.00`	`malreth`	`low latency and speedy`
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`17:26.27`	`AbsoRayne`	`Sooooo`
`17:26.45`	`AbsoRayne`	`I need my account paid for for a month...anyone want to hook me up, and in 2 weeks I can return the favor? O_o`
`17:26.56`	`malreth`	`but their HW support sucked and their business plan was stupid... that's why they were so "successful"`
`17:26.57`	`AbsoRayne`	`Willing to sign in blood / soul`
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`17:32.08`	`malreth`	`i has little monies this month, Rayne`
`17:32.41`	`malreth`	`but you can have this button i found`
`17:33.05`	`AbsoRayne`	`O-o`
`17:33.28`	`AbsoRayne`	`wassitdo?`
`17:33.45`	`Cide`	`now, you must choose`
`17:34.09`	`AbsoRayne`	`That cant be good`
`17:34.35`	`Cide`	`You take the blue button and the story ends. You wake in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe.`
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`17:34.53`	`Cide`	`You take the red button and you stay in World of Warcraft and I show you deep the instance goes.`
`17:35.09`	`Kirov`	`I'm fairly positive the red pill mixed with the blue pill makes LSD`
`17:35.10`	`malreth`	`taking them both turns you into Eugene Levy`
`17:35.18`	`AbsoRayne`	`Cide: Oh oh! Red!`
`17:35.35`	`\|Jelly\|`	`The purple pills keep you from screaming at night.`
`17:35.47`	`Dashkal`	`May I have another black one please?`
`17:35.53`	`malreth`	`i thought the purple pill keeps her screaming all night`
`17:36.18`	`Cide`	`Remember -- all I am offering is the instance reset, nothing more.`
`17:36.26`	`AbsoRayne`	`malreth: Actually I think that is the blue pill`
`17:36.32`	`malreth`	`oh, you're right`
`17:36.45`	`Cide`	`I need no blue pill`
`17:36.46`	`malreth`	`well shit, what do these purple pills do then`
`17:36.59`	`Cide`	`they're for when you want to stop`
`17:37.04`	`AbsoRayne`	`I think they make you crap gummi bears.`
`17:37.31`	`Kirov`	`mystery flavored dumdums`
`17:37.50`	`Kirov`	`Only the flavor isn't such a mystery if you're crapping them out.`
`17:37.52`	`AbsoRayne`	`Try one, I wont stop you`
`17:38.11`	`Kirov`	`Obviously they'd be dragonfruit flavored.`
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`17:38.34`	`AbsoRayne`	`http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/WoWScrnShot_050408_041159.jpg Too minimal, guys?`
`17:38.58`	`Cide`	`I can't tell because of all the clutter`
`17:39.00`	`Cide`	`alt+z please?`
`17:39.06`	`AbsoRayne`	`:\|`
`17:39.11`	`malreth`	`AbsoRayne: OMG UR SEXX!`
`17:39.12`	`ScytheBlade1`	`rofl`
`17:39.23`	`Cide`	`what's with people and ugly fonts though?`
`17:39.25`	`Kirov`	`AbsoRayne - the only real comment I could make is I find reading the chat log w/o a background a huge pain.`
`17:39.27`	`AbsoRayne`	`malreth: my place or yours?`
`17:39.36`	`malreth`	`funny... i started using pixel fonts in my UI layout too`
`17:39.37`	`Cide`	`I have yet to find a better-looking font than the standard`
`17:39.38`	`Lukian`	`AbsoRayne, I like it, but you need a better chatlog font`
`17:39.53`	`AbsoRayne`	`WHY ARE GAMECARDS 30$`
`17:39.54`	`AbsoRayne`	`WTF`
`17:39.55`	`AbsoRayne`	`:\|`
`17:39.55`	`Tekkub`	`Calibri is nice`
`17:39.58`	`Josh_Borke`	`AbsoRayne: still working on your UI?`
`17:39.59`	`Cide`	`also`
`17:40.08`	`Cide`	`just hide all the icons without cooldowns imo`
`17:40.17`	`AbsoRayne`	`Josh_Borke: Not since I came home. I have that version of lite, and a have a new version of Boxes`
`17:40.19`	`Lunessa`	`... HATE pixel fonts.`
`17:40.21`	`AbsoRayne`	`w/o a Screenshot.`
`17:40.25`	`Lukian`	`AbsoRayne, why wouldn't they be? :P`
`17:40.38`	`AbsoRayne`	`Lukian: God forbid people are happy, eh?`
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`17:40.59`	`Lunessa`	`But the layout isn't bad. I think too many pieces of line-art, but in general it's nice.`
`17:41.23`	`AbsoRayne`	`Lunessa: You should have seen it when there was Lineart around the party frames :X`
`17:41.29`	`Cide`	`where are your raid frames?`
`17:41.39`	`AbsoRayne`	`Top left, vertical, under the minimap`
`17:41.44`	`Cide`	`ugh`
`17:41.47`	`Cide`	`do you play a healer?`
`17:41.51`	`Cide`	`or do you play a minimalist?`
`17:42.08`	`AbsoRayne`	`That character in the SS will be my first healer, if and when shes 70, and I know its not a good layou`
`17:42.09`	`AbsoRayne`	`t`
`17:42.11`	`AbsoRayne`	`for a healer`
`17:42.12`	`Kirov`	`Cide - He's obviously a feral druid, I mean check out all those attacks on his bar`
`17:42.14`	`AbsoRayne`	`gd fat fingers`
`17:42.26`	`Cide`	`terrible healing layout sadly`
`17:42.27`	`Kirov`	`regrowth, regrowth regroth...`
`17:42.31`	`Cide`	`but it's good looking`
`17:42.35`	`Cide`	`Kirov: I figured as much`
`17:42.42`	`Lukian`	`Healers click buttons?`
`17:42.43`	`Cide`	`regrowth crits me all the fucking time`
`17:42.49`	`Lukian`	`I use my mouse XD`
`17:42.50`	`Cide`	`and I just fall over`
`17:42.57`	`Lukian`	`and click cast ^_^`
`17:42.59`	`Cide`	`sorry`
`17:43.00`	`Cide`	`but`
`17:43.02`	`Cide`	`epic fucking fail`
`17:43.04`	`AbsoRayne`	`http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/WoWScrnShot_041808_004156.jpg Will be how my healing UI will be based`
`17:43.15`	`Kirov`	`I play a healer too. I have a draenai mage.`
`17:43.19`	`Cide`	`target above raid frames imo`
`17:43.37`	`AbsoRayne`	`Actually, that IS cherry healer`
`17:43.59`	`AbsoRayne`	`Which I used to tanking Illidan...cause hes a bitch...........and I hate him.`
`17:44.14`	`Cide`	`dazzling argument`
`17:44.28`	`AbsoRayne`	`I could have said he was a total jacked up crazy pants`
`17:44.42`	`Kirov`	`hmm...`
`17:44.45`	`Cide`	`that would've made it oh so much better`
`17:44.48`	`AbsoRayne`	`and thrown in freaky deaky somewhere`
`17:45.08`	`AbsoRayne`	`I hate tanking the flames`
`17:45.10`	`AbsoRayne`	`fucking. nightmare.`
`17:45.14`	`Kirov`	`"FUCKING CHRIST IM ABOUT TO TANK ILLIADAN" "YOUR GOING TO DIE" "I KNOW" "DIE DIE DIE DIE"`
`17:45.18`	`Kirov`	`So poetic.`
`17:45.20`	`Cide`	`then blame the flames`
`17:45.28`	`Cide`	`illidan hasn't done anything wrong`
`17:45.34`	`AbsoRayne`	`Ive tanked them both`
`17:45.35`	`Cide`	`he's a nice guy`
`17:45.37`	`Tekkub`	`ILLIBEANS!`
`17:45.42`	`AbsoRayne`	`personally, tanking illidan is way easier. :/`
`17:45.43`	`Cide`	`we sat down for tea the other day`
`17:45.51`	`Josh_Borke`	`seriously?`
`17:45.53`	`Josh_Borke`	`~whalenuke`
`17:45.54`	`Kirov`	`The improper use of "your" just adds another level to it too`
`17:46.10`	`AbsoRayne`	`Hey`
`17:46.13`	`AbsoRayne`	`Banes a cool guy`
`17:46.22`	`AbsoRayne`	`Stabs people in Ironforge...or anywhere for that matter.`
`17:46.44`	`AbsoRayne`	`Some people say it takes alot of guts to stab someone, I say it takes a pointy object.`
`17:48.34`	`AbsoRayne`	`http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=69291 Wait, wat`
`17:48.39`	`Josh_Borke`	`the obvious solution is to make her use the same password as you`
`17:49.10`	`dylanm`	`You are not prepared... for two cubes of sugar.`
`17:51.14`	`AbsoRayne`	`Sigh`
`17:51.57`	`Tekkub`	`Two scoops Executus! TWO SCOOPS!`
`17:53.32`	`AbsoRayne`	`I just realized my speakers dont work.`
`17:53.33`	`AbsoRayne`	`Cool.`
`17:55.53`	`AbsoRayne`	`Hey`
`17:56.03`	`AbsoRayne`	`You can pay for your sub with Paypal now? O_o`
`17:56.47`	`ScytheBlade1`	`been able to for a while`
`17:56.52`	`AbsoRayne`	`Really?`
`17:57.02`	`ScytheBlade1`	`several months`
`17:57.14`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Get with the teimz!`
`17:57.20`	`Gryphen`	`i have always paid with paypal using the debit card`
`17:57.35`	`foxlit`	`Is here anything nice for unfolding recursive definitions of functions?`
`17:57.41`	`Tekkub`	`I need to bitch at PP to get my addy fixed so I can get a new card`
`17:57.45`	`foxlit`	`f(0) = 0, f(n) = 2*f(n-1)+1`
`17:57.57`	`AbsoRayne`	`PayPal is too scitz for me, tbh.`
`17:58.07`	`AbsoRayne`	`If they spot something they dont like, your email gets flooded.`
`17:58.11`	`AbsoRayne`	`At least, it has for me...`
`17:59.17`	`Gryphen`	`ive had an account since 2001 without issue`
`17:59.28`	`AbsoRayne`	`Ive had 2, ones locked`
`18:00.36`	`ScytheBlade1`	`<obligatory> What'd you do?`
`18:00.49`	`AbsoRayne`	`A deal went sour with someone over ebay`
`18:01.09`	`AbsoRayne`	`He tried to double charge for an item I bought one of, said he shipped two, I only recieved one...big mess`
`18:01.16`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I would say "like most" but I honestly have no idea`
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`18:05.39`	`AbsoRayne`	`brb, have to run home`
`18:05.53`	`foxlit`	`f(n) = 2^n-1`
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`18:06.31`	`Mikk`	`bloody hell`
`18:06.42`	`Mikk`	`my guildies have learned how to remote-LART me`
`18:07.01`	`ScytheBlade1`	`?`
`18:07.04`	`Mikk`	`they tell my gf i'm being nasty & she hits me :S`
`18:07.12`	`ScytheBlade1`	`haha`
`18:07.43`	`Dashkal`	`rofl`
`18:09.47`	`Shirik`	`how would I go about looking up the description of a buff (what shows in a tooltip)? I guess that question becomes "how do I make a tooltip for a buff"?`
`18:10.42`	`Shirik`	`oh SetUnitBuff`
`18:10.43`	`Shirik`	`nm >.>`
`18:12.07`	`Zurik`	`question: is there a way to query the who list on a timer? so that if i have 5 guys i want to lookup that i can do it ever 10 seconds or something?`
`18:12.25`	`Shirik`	`OnUpdate`
`18:12.54`	`Fisker-`	`Shirik`
`18:12.54`	`Fisker-`	`i win`
`18:12.56`	`Fisker-`	`you lose`
`18:12.57`	`dylanm`	`Zurik: I think WhoLib does something like that.`
`18:12.59`	`AbsoRayne`	`Bak`
`18:13.03`	`Fisker-`	`rematch? i win again lolol`
`18:13.03`	`*** kick/#wowuidev [Fisker-!i=skullsho@conspiracy/developer/Shirik] by Shirik (no, I win)`
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`18:13.11`	`Zurik`	`hrm.`
`18:13.17`	`dylanm`	`I don't know how good of a library it is but if you're looking for ideas...`
`18:13.22`	`Fisker-`	`we had the coolest test Shirik`
`18:13.27`	`Zurik`	`thanks dylanm: thanks i'm trying to not use any 3rd party libs.`
`18:13.27`	`Fisker-`	`There was a question`
`18:13.31`	`Thunder_Child`	`~lose Fisker-`
`18:13.32`	`purl`	`Fisker-: You Lose.`
`18:13.41`	`Fisker-`	`"When an asp.net webpage is loaded, the Page_Load() method is called"`
`18:13.47`	`Fisker-`	`(yeah it wasn't a question)`
`18:13.50`	`Fisker-`	`But gave points`
`18:13.54`	`Fisker-`	`munch munch`
`18:14.11`	`cog\|work`	`~wiki Not Invented Here`
`18:14.22`	`Zurik`	`OnUpdate should work.. tho thanks Shirik.`
`18:14.23`	`dylanm`	`Zurik: It's just nice to look at how someone else has done it. Like Shirik said, you'll want to start a timer after every query and collect requests throughout.`
`18:15.33`	`AbsoRayne`	`WTB a month of WoW, PST? D:`
`18:15.55`	`Lukian`	`500g plz`
`18:16.05`	`AbsoRayne`	`Ill give you it`
`18:16.07`	`cog\|work`	`in Eve, that would be a legal trade :P`
`18:16.09`	`AbsoRayne`	`I have like 2K`
`18:16.11`	`AbsoRayne`	`lol`
`18:16.18`	`cog\|work`	`in WoW... not so much :P`
`18:16.59`	`Lukian`	`cog\|work, indeed :(`
`18:17.35`	`cog\|work`	`not to mention the extremely low likelihood (sp?) that any two people would be on the same realm`
`18:17.35`	`batbot`	`cog\|work, likelihood is correct.`
`18:17.55`	`AbsoRayne`	`Can trade over BGs if I remember`
`18:17.59`	`AbsoRayne`	`:D`
`18:18.02`	`AbsoRayne`	`BG9?`
`18:18.35`	`cog\|work`	`and faction ...`
`18:18.58`	`Dashkal`	`If I remember correctly, BGs block you from trading anything non-conjured`
`18:19.15`	`AbsoRayne`	`not sure`
`18:19.29`	`Dashkal`	`Need to be sure the water coolers didn't lose their jobs...`
`18:19.40`	`AbsoRayne`	`rofl`
`18:19.50`	`AbsoRayne`	`Vending Machines <_<`
`18:20.00`	`Zurik`	`ok to query players in the who .. what function do i use?`
`18:20.03`	`Dashkal`	`You mean you actually pay your water cooler?`
`18:20.16`	`Zurik`	`i'm looking in http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API and can't find it.`
`18:20.34`	`AbsoRayne`	`I do tip for water and food, actually`
`18:20.37`	`AbsoRayne`	`usually 2g`
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`18:20.46`	`cog\|work`	`Zurik: blizzard's code is there for the examining`
`18:20.58`	`Dashkal`	`Heh, so do I when it comes up, but that's very rare. I go through so little food+water I generally just buy the stuff from SSO.`
`18:21.05`	`cog\|work`	`reading the who frame's code is the best way to figure that out`
`18:21.19`	`cog\|work`	`either use the ui extractor at http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/`
`18:21.28`	`cog\|work`	`or browse on http://wowcompares.com`
`18:21.52`	`dylanm`	`Zurik: It's something like SendWho().`
`18:22.29`	`Dashkal`	`wowcompares.com.... cog, I love you... (I never knew about that site before just now)`
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`18:22.44`	`cog\|work`	`Be aware that WoW's UI system is event driven. You often don't have APIs to do things like that. There's one API that triggers the who and then you have to wait for the response event from the server`
`18:23.05`	`cog\|work`	`Dashkal: was wdn.wowinterface.com, if that makes any difference :P`
`18:23.30`	`Dashkal`	`I think I might have seen that link once upon a time, but that was before I actually started coding anything :p`
`18:23.36`	`Zurik`	`gotcha thanks`
`18:24.07`	`Tekkub`	`addons using /who always comes out bad`
`18:24.38`	`Zurik`	`Tekkub, I'm doing int on a very limited basis.`
`18:24.49`	`Zurik`	`Nothing extensive`
`18:25.53`	`Zurik`	`is there a limit as to how many who records are returned?`
`18:26.17`	`Zurik`	`does it return a who for the entire server?`
`18:26.23`	`Zurik`	`or just a zone?`
`18:26.25`	`Tekkub`	`49 max`
`18:26.37`	`Zurik`	`really? omg that is poop.`
`18:26.41`	`AckisWork`	`isn't there a wholib?`
`18:26.42`	`Tekkub`	`if there's less than like 3 it goes to chat instead of the window`
`18:27.17`	`Tekkub`	`"the entire server" doesn't sound like a "very limited basis" to me :P`
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`18:27.51`	`Dashkal`	`You trying to do something like wracraftrealms' census mod?`
`18:33.56`	`Mikk`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:34.00`	`Mikk`	`like -zDarnassus`
`18:34.05`	`Mikk`	`-l10-25`
`18:34.19`	`Mikk`	`-cWarrior`
`18:34.52`	`Mikk`	`but yeah you really want to use one of the "who" queueing libs...`
`18:34.57`	`Tekkub`	`http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/99-Metal-Gear-Solid-4`
`18:35.00`	`Tekkub`	`hehe`
`18:35.30`	`zenzelezz`	`Mikk: do you need the "-X" parts? I've usually just done what you said without them, and it works`
`18:35.54`	`Mikk`	`no it can figure it out usually`
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`18:36.09`	`Mikk`	`but when you get someone named "darnawarrior" .... :P`
`18:36.17`	`zenzelezz`	`yeah, run into that sometimes`
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`18:41.26`	`Thunder_Child`	`sigh this is the link that was in gamspots email http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/starcraft2/.html`
`18:41.34`	`Thunder_Child`	`l2proofread`
`18:44.27`	`AbsoRayne`	`O_o`
`18:44.54`	`Anaral`	`smirk`
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`18:51.53`	`Fisker-`	`what about it Thunder_Child _`
`18:51.54`	`Fisker-`	`?`
`18:52.35`	`Thunder_Child`	`l2read Fisker-, and you will see it is improperly formatted`
`18:52.48`	`Lunessa`	`fisker /.html is invalid URL formation.`
`18:53.01`	`Fisker-`	`HOLY SHIT RLY?`
`18:53.06`	`Fisker-`	`I was thinking about the email`
`18:53.07`	`Fisker-`	`failures`
`18:53.27`	`Lunessa`	`~fail fisker`
`18:53.28`	`purl`	`fisker: FAIL!`
`18:54.36`	`Fisker-`	`no u actually`
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`18:54.47`	`AbsoRayne`	`gaaaaah`
`18:55.05`	`AbsoRayne`	`Someone pay for a month of gametime for me and ill pay for a month of yours in 2 weeks`
`18:55.56`	`Fisker-`	`i'd do it`
`18:56.05`	`Fisker-`	`So i could do a chargeback and lol @ you`
`18:57.10`	`Thunder_Child`	`heh, wish they would let you sell time, i'm payed up through september but i dont play anymore`
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`18:59.21`	`AbsoRayne`	`:<`
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`19:12.10`	`Shirik`	`I like this line`
`19:12.12`	`Shirik`	`DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("\|c"..form..(...).."\|r");`
`19:12.14`	`Shirik`	`that's a lot of dots`
`19:12.26`	`Tekkub`	`.............................(............)............`
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`19:12.39`	`Fisker-`	`hey`
`19:13.00`	`Thunder_Child`	`is for horses`
`19:13.46`	`Lunessa`	`oh jesus... why the fuck does everyone on the internet eventually resort to just saying "NO U!" or "I can't hear you! LALALALALALA"? Fuckers.`
`19:13.57`	`\|Jelly\|`	`NOUJ`
`19:14.03`	`Tekkub`	`quiet you`
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`19:14.33`	`cog\|work`	`silenia makes me want to gouge my eyes out`
`19:15.14`	`Lunessa`	`\|Jelly\|: I can't hear you! lalalalala`
`19:15.18`	`Thunder_Child`	`Lunessa, because you cant see the look of utter derision on the other persons face, so it's ok`
`19:15.44`	`Lunessa`	`XKCD had a good comic for it.`
`19:16.32`	`Thunder_Child`	`i thought that one was about hitler`
`19:16.43`	`Tekkub`	`I want today's comic on a shirt`
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`19:18.45`	`Shirik`	`Lunessa:`
`19:18.49`	`Shirik`	`NO U`
`19:18.58`	`\|Jelly\|`	`What's the hit cap for an elemental shaman with totem of lulz up?`
`19:19.02`	`Thunder_Child`	`a little late Shirik`
`19:19.06`	`Shirik`	`:(`
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`19:19.39`	`Lunessa`	`~comfort Shirik`
`19:19.39`	`purl`	`There, there, Shirik. It's OK. I'm here for you.`
`19:20.32`	`AbsoRayne`	`Jelllllllyyyyyy`
`19:20.42`	`AbsoRayne`	`I wanna work on my UIIIIIII`
`19:20.43`	`Thunder_Child`	`Lunessa, spare the rod, spoil the child`
`19:21.28`	`Lunessa`	`Thunder_Child: Days like today make me wonder why I bother chewing through my restraints...`
`19:21.47`	`cog\|work`	`~hug Lopeppeppy`
`19:21.48`	`purl`	`ACTION hugs Lopeppeppy tightly until Lopeppeppy turns slightly blue`
`19:21.55`	`Thunder_Child`	`Lunessa, days like today wonder why you HAVE restraints....`
`19:21.55`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Wish I had something better to tell ya. Hooker yourself?`
`19:22.06`	`AbsoRayne`	`Im not worth anything.`
`19:22.08`	`Thunder_Child`	`s/today/ today make me/`
`19:22.10`	`AbsoRayne`	`Im married too`
`19:22.36`	`Lopeppeppy`	`AbsoRayne, you are worth millions. hug The rest I leave up to you!`
`19:22.51`	`AbsoRayne`	`That was like the most tacky thing ive ever heard`
`19:22.51`	`AbsoRayne`	`lol`
`19:22.57`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Ouch.`
`19:23.07`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Peppy-cheerleading-power denied.`
`19:23.26`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Guess that explains it.`
`19:23.30`	`AbsoRayne`	`:>`
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`19:23.44`	`Lunessa`	`Thunder_Child: I have restraints for the protection of the general populace, and viewers like you. This bag is not a toy. Batteries not included. Your results may vary. While rare, erections lasting more than four hours require immediate medical attention.`
`19:24.31`	`Thunder_Child`	`Lunessa, in your case the attenions of a hot nurse`
`19:24.42`	`Lunessa`	`grin`
`19:25.55`	`Thunder_Child`	`besides, 'vary' is good, it makes for interesting days`
`19:26.31`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Oh dear.`
`19:26.44`	`AbsoRayne`	`o_o`
`19:26.48`	`Esamynn`	`this conversation is very... strange`
`19:27.00`	`AbsoRayne`	`Esamynn: Agreed`
`19:27.33`	`AbsoRayne`	`Got DirecTV?`
`19:27.47`	`cog\|work`	`directv > *`
`19:27.52`	`Lunessa`	`Cable on my PC + Windows Media Center.`
`19:27.58`	`AbsoRayne`	`Ah`
`19:27.58`	`Keias`	`Turkey vs Germany soccer is on!`
`19:28.05`	`AbsoRayne`	`Im watching Spiderman 3`
`19:28.09`	`AbsoRayne`	`cause nothing else is on`
`19:28.25`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Why aren't you out hookering yourself?`
`19:28.39`	`dylanm`	`Keias: Germany is looking very shaky.`
`19:28.46`	`AbsoRayne`	`Its raining`
`19:28.50`	`Lunessa`	`Law and Order: Criminal Intent reruns.`
`19:28.52`	`AbsoRayne`	`and I dont own any white shirts`
`19:30.35`	`AbsoRayne`	`Theres really very few good UIs nowadays...`
`19:31.34`	`Thunder_Child`	`even gates bitches at windows http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/archives/141821.asp`
`19:31.44`	`Thunder_Child`	`(xp though)`
`19:33.34`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Okay. Random rant. Company puts out Software 5.0 around Xmas. Comes out with Software 5.1 in April. In June announces will no longer support 5.0 version. At all. In any way. WTF? One incremental version a few months old is unsupported? Do you know how long it takes an academic institution to test and install even a new pencil sharpener?`
`19:33.53`	`Thunder_Child`	`5 min?`
`19:34.09`	`Lopeppeppy`	`You wish.`
`19:35.08`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Getting proper permissions during summer vacation is totally impossible. sigh And we won't have it scheduled until August, with the restructuring of schedules during summer flex hours, and getting someone competent to cover the shift.... sigh`
`19:35.11`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Unsupported.`
`19:36.25`	`Shirik`	`I've never actually parsed a tooltip before. How do I get the text from the tooltip? I don't see any kind of function to let me view that text except for GameTooltip:NumLines()`
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`19:39.47`	`cladhaire`	`Shirik: GameTooltipTextLeft1:GetText()`
`19:39.59`	`Esamynn`	`Lopeppeppy: well, lets see, approximated 52.3532563 years`
`19:40.02`	`AckisWork`	`so last week I was able to get a sath boss name from a kill on kalecgos, this week I didn't get a single thing. Anyone know of a consistent way to get a boss name from kalecgos' death?`
`19:40.04`	`Shirik`	`ooh, so I have to use the built-in GameTooltip?`
`19:40.08`	`Shirik`	`I can't make my own?`
`19:40.23`	`Esamynn`	`s/approximated/approximately/`
`19:40.38`	`Esamynn`	`give or take, 6 months`
`19:41.33`	`Esamynn`	`and that's just for the regular type, ask for an electric pencil sharpener and you'll have to wait until pencils no longer exist! ;)`
`19:41.43`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Uh-oh`
`19:41.49`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Possible epic amounts of QQ incoming`
`19:41.51`	`ScytheBlade1`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7475458518&sid=1`
`19:42.24`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Pretty much, Esamynn. In the meantime I can't get any help on issues from their help desk, because my school is in Summer Slowdown (TM)`
`19:42.40`	`Esamynn`	`morons`
`19:42.52`	`Esamynn`	`the software company I mean`
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`19:43.22`	`Esamynn`	`ScytheBlade1: that HAS to be a bug`
`19:43.29`	`AbsoRayne`	`ScytheBlade1: Oh yeah, im watchin this one`
`19:43.29`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Yeah. I'm not a happy tech support person for my school right now. Any answer I get is "upgrade to 5.1 and then call us"`
`19:43.35`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Esamynn: I sure hope not, and I say that as a mage.`
`19:43.40`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I'd totally join battlegrounds, drop a table`
`19:43.44`	`ScytheBlade1`	`And afk a minute into gameplay`
`19:43.54`	`Esamynn`	`~lart ScytheBlade1`
`19:43.54`	`purl`	`raises middle finger to ScytheBlade1`
`19:43.59`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I'd go from dropping tables 0% of the time to 100% of the time`
`19:44.06`	`Esamynn`	`wow, that is PERFECT purl`
`19:44.08`	`Esamynn`	`~botsnack`
`19:44.08`	`purl`	`:), Esamynn`
`19:44.41`	`ScytheBlade1`	`There are no words to describe how amazingly happy the malicious side of is right now`
`19:44.46`	`Zurik`	`i need an opinion: is it bad to make your addon dependant on another addon such as ACE2.0 ?`
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`19:45.20`	`Thunder_Child`	`and any of you all beat http://img.thedailywtf.com/images/200806/errord/infinitywow.jpg ?`
`19:45.34`	`Esamynn`	`hahaha`
`19:45.40`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Zurik: Well, Ace is designd to be embedded, or at least, not to have a hard dependancy on an addon labeled "Ace-2.0"`
`19:45.54`	`Thunder_Child`	`s/and/can/`
`19:46.19`	`AbsoRayne`	`Sadly no :(`
`19:46.23`	`AbsoRayne`	`There was a time`
`19:46.25`	`AbsoRayne`	`but not now`
`19:46.36`	`Zurik`	`so how do I make sure they have ace? do i package my addon with it?`
`19:46.49`	`Esamynn`	`ScytheBlade1: you are just a mean person`
`19:46.52`	`Thunder_Child`	`http://img.thedailywtf.com/images/200806/errord/resharpererror.jpg`
`19:46.59`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I'd really recommend asking in #wowace, Zurik`
`19:47.05`	`ScytheBlade1`	`As that is... you know, their place :)`
`19:47.12`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Esamynn: at heart I'm terrible.`
`19:47.20`	`Zurik`	`thanks.. i'll pop that channel.`
`19:47.31`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Esamynn: from 0% to 100%. 120% more entertainment.`
`19:47.47`	`Esamynn`	`~slap ScytheBlade1`
`19:47.48`	`purl`	`ACTION slaps ScytheBlade1, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!`
`19:48.07`	`Esamynn`	`~bzfrag ScytheBlade1`
`19:48.08`	`purl`	`ACTION blindsides ScytheBlade1 with an invisible bullet`
`19:48.15`	`Esamynn`	`that's better`
`19:48.23`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Keep it coming. I'll just keep laughing. =]`
`19:48.29`	`Esamynn`	`haha`
`19:49.29`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I'll drop a table if I'm preforming with friends, that's really about it`
`19:50.02`	`Esamynn`	`whatever, I'm sure it's a bug`
`19:50.10`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Yeah, probably without a doubt`
`19:50.15`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Makes me kinda sad, but oh well.`
`19:50.19`	`Esamynn`	`:P`
`19:50.37`	`Esamynn`	`QQ more`
`19:50.37`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Oh trust me`
`19:50.37`	`ScytheBlade1`	`The amount of QQ I'd create would be legendary`
`19:50.50`	`Esamynn`	`you know that's not what I meant :P`
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`19:54.24`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Store. Xchat is forever.`
`19:54.33`	`Anaral`	`Lol`
`19:55.05`	`Anaral`	`Yeah, I suppose. Stupid EyeCandy not wanting to work.`
`19:56.00`	`Thunder_Child`	`is it just me or are tv shows getting stupider... case: "Wipeout" and "I survived a japanese game show"`
`19:56.45`	`Zurik`	`can anyone explain what externals are?`
`19:57.24`	`Anaral`	`Libs`
`19:57.48`	`Zurik`	`yeah, but how does it work?`
`19:57.49`	`Anaral`	`And other outside addons.`
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`19:58.25`	`Zurik`	`ugh, this is over my head.. i'm going to 86 use of Anything Ace. lol`
`19:58.28`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Libraries that are not embedded are external.`
`19:58.47`	`Thunder_Child`	`eg. multiple addons can pull from one set of librarys`
`19:59.00`	`Thunder_Child`	`so they stay seperate in the addons folder`
`19:59.15`	`Zurik`	`ok.. that makes sense.`
`19:59.27`	`Thunder_Child`	`i assume your talking about the acu updater?`
`19:59.29`	`Zurik`	`but that means i still need to package the Ace lib with my addon then ?`
`19:59.30`	`Thunder_Child`	`ace*`
`19:59.52`	`Lunessa`	`Yes.`
`19:59.57`	`cog\|work`	`BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA`
`20:00.05`	`cog\|work`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6962916601&sid=1&pageNo=11#204`
`20:00.09`	`Zurik`	`no, honestly i jsut want to use the WhoLib, and the guys in the wowace channel just confuse the hell outa me with links about SVN and externals.`
`20:00.12`	`Lunessa`	`Anytime you release an Ace2 or Ace3 addon, you should embed the libs.`
`20:00.19`	`cog\|work`	`/boggle`
`20:00.52`	`dylanm`	`You can just download it and include it if you're only going to release on wowi and the like. Who cares?`
`20:01.01`	`Dashkal`	`cog\|work: blinks`
`20:03.36`	`Lunessa`	`cog\|work: that was... totally cognitive dissonance. Hell, schizophrenia.`
`20:04.10`	`Lopeppeppy`	`I love Undercut`
`20:05.47`	`cog\|work`	`He seems to say everything I want to but can't`
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`20:06.10`	`cog\|work`	`and i'm already pushing the limits of green text imo :P`
`20:06.52`	`Fisker-`	`cog\|work`
`20:07.00`	`Fisker-`	`a cogwheel saved my life today :O`
`20:07.11`	`malreth_`	`just a small town girl`
`20:07.15`	`malreth_`	`livin in a lonely world`
`20:07.31`	`malreth_`	`she took the midnight train goin aaaaaaaanyyyyyyyywheeeeeeereeeeeee`
`20:07.41`	`Fisker-`	`Just a small town cog`
`20:07.49`	`Fisker-`	`livin in a metric world`
`20:08.07`	`Fisker-`	`he took the the midnight wrench goin aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanyyyyyyyyyyyyywheeeeeeeereeeeeeeeeeee`
`20:08.18`	`Fisker-`	`BONK`
`20:08.27`	`Fisker-`	`(That means it's TF2 tiems)`
`20:10.17`	`cog\|work`	`aww... malreth_ got circumcised`
`20:10.48`	`ScytheBlade1`	`0_0`
`20:11.21`	`malreth`	`it's cleaner this way`
`20:11.25`	`Esamynn`	`cog\|work: that response is just...`
`20:11.27`	`Esamynn`	`mind boggling`
`20:11.41`	`cog\|work`	`malreth: liez!`
`20:11.44`	`AbsoRayne`	`http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/ktens.jpg Kittens! To brighten your day!`
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`20:12.00`	`cog\|work`	`eyes don't get cleaner when you remove their eyelids :P`
`20:12.04`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I /tried/ to be as simple as I could about it. And yet, nothing.`
`20:12.08`	`ScytheBlade1`	`heh`
`20:12.41`	`Dashkal`	`Random kittens rule`
`20:13.13`	`Esamynn`	`Dogs >> Cats`
`20:13.32`	`cog\|work`	`ckknight_ too... what's this world coming to?!`
`20:15.19`	`Dashkal`	`You're right, Esamynn. Dogs are very easily bit shifted to zero by cats`
`20:15.40`	`Esamynn`	`ROFL`
`20:15.48`	`Esamynn`	`also`
`20:15.51`	`Lopeppeppy`	`I love the eyes in the second photo, AbsoRayne.`
`20:15.52`	`Esamynn`	`~lart Dashkal`
`20:15.52`	`purl`	`steals Dashkal's mojo`
`20:16.26`	`AbsoRayne`	`Lopeppeppy: I miss my kittens. :(`
`20:17.33`	`AbsoRayne`	`Had to gives them away. :(`
`20:18.17`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Awww.`
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`20:20.14`	`Kirov`	`One of my coworkers was telling a story about how her next door neighbor just had a litter kittens. Aparently her cat went next door and stole one of them and brought it back to the house, then had no idea what to do with it.`
`20:20.26`	`Kirov`	`Her male cat.`
`20:21.16`	`Esamynn`	`I don't actually have a problem with Cats, it's just that they make me sneeze, and my eyes run, and it's not pleasant for me to be around them`
`20:21.44`	`Dashkal`	`ouch, that sucks. In that case I'll agree with you, Esamynn. Alergies suck more than cute helps`
`20:22.57`	`Kirov`	`My fiancee is alergic to cats, but we got one anyways.`
`20:23.00`	`Kirov`	`cute won`
`20:23.11`	`Dashkal`	`:D`
`20:23.27`	`Esamynn`	`Kirov: must not be a very serious allergy`
`20:24.08`	`Dashkal`	`I'm mildly alergic, but so mildly she can even sleep next to me without any real issues. I just wake up as though I have a cold.`
`20:25.21`	`AbsoRayne`	`My wife had 2 cats`
`20:25.28`	`AbsoRayne`	`And now were down to one.`
`20:25.43`	`AbsoRayne`	`The female, after it had her kittens, found my wife to be a threat or something and would just attack her.`
`20:25.50`	`Kirov`	`She used to have problems when we first got the cat, but being exposed to him on a daily basis and she doesn't have problems any more.`
`20:25.51`	`AbsoRayne`	`We had to get rid of her once the kittens were weened.`
`20:25.58`	`Kirov`	`Other cats still cause problems.`
`20:26.32`	`Esamynn`	`Kirov: interesting, that wouldn't be an option for me, I have to be on a steady dose of strong antihistamine`
`20:27.58`	`Fisker-`	`time to fly cog\|work`
`20:29.15`	`Lopeppeppy`	`[canhasparachute] variable?`
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`20:31.05`	`Kirov`	`Fisker- - You're doing it wrong, the plane needs to be off the ground for that to actually elicit fear.`
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`20:31.37`	`devXer0`	`hey,is a players guid unique across servers? I would think not, but figured I would ask more knowledgable folks`
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`20:31.50`	`Esamynn`	`cog\|work: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/community/comics/gallery.html#40`
`20:32.05`	`Esamynn`	`Fisker-: ^^`
`20:32.45`	`Kirov`	`devXer0 - a player's guid is unique across servers, possibly across regions.`
`20:33.01`	`devXer0`	`interesting, thanks Kirov`
`20:33.09`	`Kirov`	`actually, I take that back. It is not unique across regions.`
`20:33.18`	`Kirov`	`However, it is unique across servers.`
`20:33.20`	`dylanm`	`For battlegrounds and such it should be.`
`20:33.24`	`Esamynn`	`http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/community/comics/gallery.html#139 <-- I still think this is the BEST comic of the bunch, of all the comic contest ones they have on display`
`20:33.38`	`Kirov`	`(by regions I mean us vs. eu vs. asia)`
`20:33.59`	`cog\|work`	`never bothered trying to strip though`
`20:34.22`	`cog\|work`	`(nor would i tell you if i had :P)`
`20:34.37`	`dylanm`	`GERMANS`
`20:34.37`	`Esamynn`	`devXer0: definately unique across a battlegroup, probably accross a region`
`20:37.32`	`Kirov`	`Esamynn - I had a paladin arguing that the carrot and the riding crop should both be enabled w/ his riding boots, along with his aura.`
`20:38.20`	`Kirov`	`Esamynn - He was absolutely convinced it made him go faster.`
`20:38.20`	`cncfanatics`	`Shirik: So, I'm buying my laptop saterday, can you help me a bit installing gentoo from stage 1 then ?`
`20:38.20`	`dylanm`	`Paladins don't have to be smart.`
`20:38.23`	`Esamynn`	`the 3 pre-TBC riding things, carrot, spurs, and glove enchant all DID stack actually`
`20:38.26`	`Fisker-`	`o rly cog\|work?`
`20:38.29`	`Esamynn`	`and still do`
`20:38.33`	`Esamynn`	`afaik`
`20:38.39`	`Shirik`	`you should do stage3 cncfanatics :)`
`20:38.46`	`cncfanatics`	`why ? :p`
`20:38.49`	`cncfanatics`	`stage1 sounds like fun`
`20:38.51`	`Kirov`	`Esamynn - oh, no doubt, because they added up to a 10% increase.`
`20:38.53`	`Esamynn`	`Kirov: but yah, reading of patch notes, is good`
`20:38.55`	`Shirik`	`cncfanatics: question, is cnc for command & conquer?`
`20:39.03`	`Kirov`	`which is what the riding crop does`
`20:39.15`	`cncfanatics`	`Shirik: yes`
`20:39.16`	`Kirov`	`Which happens to be the hard cap w/o the aura`
`20:39.28`	`Shirik`	`somehow my friend over here recognized that instantly >.>`
`20:39.30`	`Esamynn`	`not cap, exactly`
`20:39.44`	`cncfanatics`	`Shirik: ofc he did`
`20:39.49`	`cncfanatics`	`everyone who plays command & conquer does :p`
`20:39.50`	`Esamynn`	`just the highest available`
`20:40.13`	`cog\|work`	`can someone please tell me how to get irssi to highlight "cog" only when it's at the beginning of a word?`
`20:40.41`	`Esamynn`	`cncfanatics: Command & Conquer sucks !!!`
`20:40.55`	`dylanm`	`11111`
`20:40.58`	`Dashkal`	`cognitive processes may be bad for you as well...`
`20:41.15`	`cncfanatics`	`Esamynn: command & conquer ain't a game`
`20:41.20`	`cncfanatics`	`its a series of games`
`20:41.27`	`Esamynn`	`yah well, they all suck! :P`
`20:41.31`	`cncfanatics`	`and tbh, all the red alert ones are nice`
`20:41.39`	`Esamynn`	`meh`
`20:41.46`	`cog\|work`	`Dashkal: good thing noone ever says that word except when i complain about this :P`
`20:41.49`	`Pizik_afk`	`C&C was the 1st game,, and it rocked`
`20:41.55`	`Dashkal`	`cnc red alert + unit editor has to be some of the most fun I've ever had with a game...`
`20:42.02`	`Dashkal`	`True`
`20:42.28`	`cncfanatics`	`cnc red alert & cnc red alert 2 are the best imo`
`20:42.33`	`cncfanatics`	`2 was especialy fun`
`20:42.40`	`Esamynn`	`I've not actually played the original C&C, but I've yet to be really impressed by a game in the C&C series`
`20:42.48`	`Lunessa`	`All your base are belong to us. Someone set us up the bomb.`
`20:42.50`	`cncfanatics`	`oh the joy of tesla towers`
`20:43.01`	`cncfanatics`	`generals wasn't too bad either`
`20:43.04`	`cncfanatics`	`though it didn't fit in the series at all`
`20:43.07`	`foxlit`	`3 is awesome`
`20:43.07`	`cncfanatics`	`(EA fuckup :p)`
`20:43.12`	`foxlit`	`generals was... a separate game`
`20:43.22`	`foxlit`	`(though damn, zero hours FMVs were awesome)`
`20:43.27`	`cncfanatics`	`agree`
`20:43.29`	`Esamynn`	`EA is good at "upgrading" their games`
`20:43.32`	`cncfanatics`	`and also agree that 3 is ok`
`20:43.34`	`Esamynn`	`innovation, not so much`
`20:43.43`	`Esamynn`	`imo`
`20:43.54`	`cncfanatics`	`totaly new storyline in a same universe`
`20:43.56`	`foxlit`	`battlecast is new`
`20:43.59`	`cncfanatics`	`as much inovation as warcraft`
`20:44.56`	`Dashkal`	`insert "innovation is the art of hiding sources" here?`
`20:45.15`	`Esamynn`	`~gag Dashkal`
`20:45.15`	`purl`	`ACTION takes away the voice of Dashkal and, as an additional precaution, sews Dashkal's mouth shut permanently...`
`20:45.16`	`Esamynn`	`quiet you`
`20:45.34`	`foxlit`	`at some level, sources had to innovate`
`20:46.27`	`Thunder_Child`	`its a good thing your on IRC and dont talk anyways....`
`20:46.55`	`Dashkal`	`yes!`
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`20:47.30`	`Dashkal`	`But that would be bringing logic into this conversation. I think there's a rule against that somewhere...`
`20:47.40`	`Thunder_Child`	`point`
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`20:48.45`	`Esamynn`	`oh god no, we can't have logic here`
`20:49.10`	`Thunder_Child`	`right, sorry, wont happen again`
`20:49.16`	`wereHamster`	`~logic`
`20:49.16`	`purl`	`methinks logic is your friend`
`20:49.22`	`Dashkal`	`Lies!`
`20:49.27`	`Esamynn`	`I should hope not Thunder_Child`
`20:49.30`	`cncfanatics`	`having logic here would be like saying Shirik doesn't fail`
`20:49.31`	`cncfanatics`	`can't have that`
`20:49.41`	`Dashkal`	`Logic betrays you the moment you start feeling clever!`
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`20:53.25`	`Lopeppeppy`	`What am logics?`
`20:54.15`	`Thunder_Child`	`~logic`
`20:54.16`	`purl`	`Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with confidence.`
`20:54.26`	`cog\|work`	`Logics: that which Silenia will never achieve`
`20:55.46`	`Thunder_Child`	`lol "If the world were a logical place, men would ride side saddle."`
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`21:05.36`	`Lunessa`	`Your conclusion is highly illogical, captain.`
`21:06.05`	`malreth`	`Capt. Kirk: Fuck you, Spock!`
`21:06.13`	`zenzelezz`	`Against logic there is no armor like ignorance.`
`21:06.41`	`cog\|work`	`stupidity > ignorance imo`
`21:06.45`	`Kirov`	`cog\|work - There are two type of people ... those who ask questions to get answers, and those who ask questions to reaffirm what they already know to be correct (regardless of the reality)`
`21:07.04`	`malreth`	`Kirov: There is a God, right?`
`21:07.29`	`Kirov`	`malreth - yes, and his noodly apendage will touch you soon.`
`21:07.37`	`cog\|work`	`malreth: http://www.venganza.org/`
`21:08.48`	`Kirov`	`I'm fairly certain middle america is fucked`
`21:09.00`	`cog\|work`	`I read somwhere that enough people put "Jedi Knight" as their religion on a recent UK census, that they had to recognize it as an official religion`
`21:09.01`	`ckknight`	`woo, America!`
`21:09.08`	`cog\|work`	`emphasis on "I read somewhere"`
`21:09.20`	`ckknight`	`cog\|work: I thought that was Australia`
`21:09.28`	`cog\|work`	`would love verification`
`21:09.50`	`Thunder_Child`	`ckknight, one island is the same as another`
`21:09.53`	`Kirov`	`Middle america states keep apointing people who have officially gone on the record as saying "science is evil" to head the boards of their education.`
`21:10.17`	`cog\|work`	`ah there it is http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1589133.stm`
`21:11.09`	`cog\|work`	`misleading summary then ... poo`
`21:11.33`	`cog\|work`	`[O]fficials from the Office of National Statistics are keen to point out that just because Jedi Knight has been given its own code, that does not confer on it the status of official recognition.`
`21:11.56`	`zenzelezz`	`"I find your lack of faith disturbing"`
`21:12.16`	`Lopeppeppy`	`What am faith?`
`21:12.48`	`zenzelezz`	`- Faith: not wanting to know what is true. (Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche)`
`21:12.50`	`ckknight`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qvxpe8ili0c`
`21:12.52`	`cog\|work`	`faith is the thing people who are incapable of accepting there are things they will not understand use to substitute for knowledge`
`21:14.18`	`Thunder_Child`	`http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/june/splashscreen3.jpg interesting`
`21:14.20`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Cog, that was confuseling.`
`21:14.34`	`cog\|work`	`hmm... yes it was... wtb lojban`
`21:14.50`	`Lopeppeppy`	`ahem`
`21:14.53`	`Lopeppeppy`	`I read that verywrong.`
`21:15.00`	`zenzelezz`	`I bet you did`
`21:15.10`	`Lopeppeppy`	`He typed it, don't look at me!`
`21:15.16`	`cog\|work`	`faith is the thing people use to substitute for knowledge when they are incapable of accepting the fact that there are things in this world they will never fully understand`
`21:15.23`	`zenzelezz`	`Lopeppeppy: I never take my eyes off you`
`21:15.30`	`Kirov`	`Thunder_Child - People are just reading too much in to it. It's just a teaser for blizzcon w/ runs for WotLK and SC2`
`21:15.30`	`malreth`	`Thunder_Child: by day 7, the picture will have added two hands -- each slowly stretching the hole in the ice larger and larger`
`21:15.31`	`Lopeppeppy`	`awww. preen`
`21:15.54`	`Thunder_Child`	`malreth, thanks for that mental image....i hate you`
`21:16.10`	`malreth`	`i open dark corners in minds`
`21:16.13`	`Thunder_Child`	`Kirov, na, just interesting what they are doing is my point`
`21:16.45`	`foxlit`	`malreth: then it'll become the london olympic logo :)`
`21:16.51`	`Kirov`	`All of the Diablo 3 musings are likely bogus`
`21:17.04`	`Thunder_Child`	`Kirov, sadly`
`21:17.04`	`cog\|work`	`malreth: i'm surprised no one has done a gag like that yet...`
`21:18.01`	`cog\|work`	`leave my damned url alone!`
`21:18.07`	`Esamynn`	`lol`
`21:19.29`	`foxlit`	`I'll 302 you!`
`21:19.55`	`Thunder_Child`	`i'll 409 you`
`21:19.56`	`ScytheBlade1`	`lol @ 302 you`
`21:19.57`	`ScytheBlade1`	`hahaha`
`21:20.30`	`foxlit`	`TC: That's 406!`
`21:20.33`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I'm pretty sure the more terrible thing is that I'm laughing about it though`
`21:21.01`	`cog\|work`	`malreth: http://home.comcast.net/~m_orlando/jack-o-lanterns/jack-o-lanterns.html (scroll down to #7)`
`21:21.12`	`cog\|work`	`this came in an e-mail from my mom`
`21:22.26`	`malreth`	`my favorite extreme pumpkin that i remember is one that looked like it was drowning in a plastic bag`
`21:22.41`	`malreth`	`the one in the plastic container just doesn't have the same shock feel`
`21:24.24`	`cog\|work`	`Lunessa: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7475658759&sid=1`
`21:25.18`	`ScytheBlade1`	`(unrelated to that thread, heh)`
`21:25.36`	`malreth`	`vista ain't so bad`
`21:26.11`	`Mikk`	`yeah drm in the kernel is <3333`
`21:26.18`	`malreth`	`it's kinda like a really putrid fart. it really stinks at first, but after a while you get used to it and it's fine.`
`21:26.27`	`ScytheBlade1`	`DRM I'm not using is entirely irrelevant also`
`21:26.31`	`Kirov`	`ScytheBlade1 - because it's not XP/Mac OSX/Ubunto/Eee/Sugar`
`21:26.36`	`Mikk`	`"oh soz your projector manufacturer hasn't licensed the i-r-safe bit technology... so i wont play your movie on it!"`
`21:26.46`	`Kirov`	`there for == evil`
`21:27.07`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Kirov: well, as long as it is just stupid people being stupid, fair enough`
`21:27.21`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Mikk: that's great, none of my media will ever trigger that either ;)`
`21:27.28`	`Lunessa`	`Meh, Vista is Vista. Windows 7 probably going to be better.`
`21:27.43`	`malreth`	`s/better/irrelevant/`
`21:27.46`	`malreth`	`fixed that for you`
`21:28.18`	`Lunessa`	`It doesn't matter to me. Vista seems to be pretty sold for home use.`
`21:28.20`	`Kirov`	`Vista has two evils. Security that does more harm than good. Poor hardware / driver support.`
`21:28.29`	`Matrix110`	`aha`
`21:28.55`	`Mikk`	`imnsho windows stopped being better after xp. and even 2k-xp wasn't much of a change.`
`21:28.56`	`Matrix110`	`Driver support is WAY superior to XP in the start`
`21:29.01`	`Lunessa`	`The same was said of XP when it shipped. And Mac OS X when it shipped.`
`21:29.02`	`Mikk`	`yeah, new drivers that 2k never received. woop de doo.`
`21:30.22`	`Kirov`	`The problem I have with Vista's security is requires users to care about pop up messages.`
`21:30.45`	`Matrix110`	`UAC is a nice idea but the way it was implemented isnt that great`
`21:30.45`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Kirov: the problem with that, is that the other option is to let the programs fail with cryptic error messages.`
`21:30.59`	`Kirov`	`If spam / trojans / etc have proved anything in the last several years is that if something pops up on their screen people blindly click OK every damn time.`
`21:31.03`	`Lunessa`	`Most of the security systems use that.`
`21:31.06`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Kirov: the users will never get any better. The amount of complaining to the software vendors will make the software vendors get better though, which is the real problem.`
`21:31.45`	`cog\|work`	`ScytheBlade1: the problem there being that the users blame Vista because it doesn't do that in XP`
`21:31.52`	`cog\|work`	`so they complain to the wrong people`
`21:31.52`	`ScytheBlade1`	`cog\|work: yup!`
`21:31.55`	`ScytheBlade1`	`People are stupid.`
`21:32.18`	`Kirov`	`Even my fiancee, who understands computers quite well... if something pops up on her screen she clicks ok.`
`21:32.53`	`Matrix110`	`I still remember some friend calling and I needed to explain him on the phone how to Download DIVX Codec`
`21:32.59`	`cog\|work`	`i'm sure Cairenn\|afk wouldn't mind the reduced responsibility ;)`
`21:33.09`	`Lunessa`	`I recently worked on the laptop of a police officer. Between him, his son, and his wife they had installed EVERY fake security program under the sun.`
`21:33.14`	`Matrix110`	`so I navigated him over the phone via google to some DL site`
`21:33.17`	`Matrix110`	`then suddenly`
`21:33.35`	`Matrix110`	`"NOOOO MY FIREWALL GOT BYPASSED"`
`21:33.36`	`Kirov`	`If something is wrong with her computer and I'm trying to figure out why, I have to basically steal her mouse so she doesn't click past error messages instantly. She doesn't even see them, but her hand jumps out and clicks ok before I can even read a single word.`
`21:33.38`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Lunessa: awesome`
`21:33.45`	`Matrix110`	`I asked him wtf he means`
`21:34.00`	`Matrix110`	`in the end it was a Popup saying: "You system is not safe Download Virus shit here"`
`21:34.00`	`Matrix110`	`:D`
`21:34.05`	`ScytheBlade1`	`hahaha`
`21:34.33`	`Matrix110`	`Took a bit to convince him to not install it`
`21:34.45`	`ScytheBlade1`	`In one sense I'm not sure what hurts computing in general more`
`21:34.58`	`Lunessa`	`Matrix110: That's exactly what had happened to this guy's laptop. Well, that and the kid downloading everything that said "it's totally KEWL!"`
`21:35.00`	`ScytheBlade1`	`The stupid people using computers, or the ninteen billion "security" vendors`
`21:35.20`	`Kirov`	`ScytheBlade1 - the users.`
`21:35.25`	`Matrix110`	`Users :P`
`21:35.30`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Kirov: "install this product and you'll be safe!"`
`21:35.32`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Bzzt, wrong.`
`21:35.33`	`Thunder_Child`	`PEBKAC!!!`
`21:35.41`	`Kirov`	`ScytheBlade1 - the "security" vendors only exist because of the users.`
`21:35.42`	`ScytheBlade1`	`The two problems feed off of each other`
`21:35.46`	`Thunder_Child`	`~pebkac`
`21:35.47`	`purl`	`Sounds like the Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair`
`21:35.51`	`Thunder_Child`	`....`
`21:36.00`	`Matrix110`	`Just think about WHY spam exists`
`21:36.03`	`Matrix110`	`because of users`
`21:36.06`	`Matrix110`	`no other reason`
`21:36.18`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Becase apparently there are a lot of males concerned about their penis size`
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`21:36.39`	`Lopeppeppy`	`...`
`21:36.45`	`malreth`	`ScytheBlade1: seriously! and no matter how much i buy, my cock is still the same-- oh... wait`
`21:36.47`	`Lunessa`	`You send out 10,000,000 responses and get 1% response... it's worthwhile.`
`21:37.05`	`Thunder_Child`	`~pebkac`
`21:37.06`	`purl`	`PEBKAC: Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair.`
`21:37.17`	`Kirov`	`If only it was only 10 million, and only 1%`
`21:37.22`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Lopeppeppy: I'll forward you my junk mail folder if you want. 90%+ of it is male enhancement spam.`
`21:37.41`	`Lopeppeppy`	`I get enough male enhancement spam of my own, ScytheBlade1, thanks anyway.`
`21:37.45`	`malreth`	`either penis pills or watches...`
`21:37.48`	`Thunder_Child`	`really? most of my spam is drugs or fake watches`
`21:37.52`	`Matrix110`	`everything`
`21:38.15`	`Matrix110`	`Poker spam is annoying`
`21:38.19`	`Matrix110`	`and Casino spam`
`21:38.22`	`malreth`	`it's almost like an editorial on the state of America`
`21:38.32`	`AckisWork`	`america has a small penis size?`
`21:38.34`	`Lunessa`	`I certainly don't want any pills made from penis.`
`21:38.52`	`Matrix110`	`well there are always these numbers from Google what was the top search word etc.`
`21:39.08`	`Matrix110`	`but they dont show the "dirty" words`
`21:39.13`	`Matrix110`	`which prolly would be on 1-50 :P`
`21:39.37`	`AckisWork`	`usually search engines are navigation tools... ie: yahoo search = google so you can go to googles page`
`21:39.49`	`Kirov`	`AckisWork - Americans obsess about the size of that certain part of the male anatomy.`
`21:40.10`	`Lunessa`	`The WORLD obsesses about it.`
`21:40.33`	`Matrix110`	`well I would say it has reasons in the prudity`
`21:41.18`	`Matrix110`	`Only being able to see them oversized in porn without knowing the avg. size leads to buying such pills :P`
`21:43.51`	`Lunessa`	`The US maybe prudish, but that doesn't mean the rest of the world isn't also obsessing about the size or other factors of their wangs.`
`21:44.00`	`Matrix110`	`not saying hat`
`21:44.02`	`Matrix110`	`*that`
`21:44.04`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Lopeppeppy: (delayed response) .... well, do you need any?`
`21:44.22`	`Matrix110`	`there are lots of idiots everywhere else :P`
`21:44.33`	`Kirov`	`the us just makes an easy target`
`21:44.47`	`Kirov`	`There's a lot of us, and we tend to be loud.`
`21:45.01`	`Lunessa`	`... that's what /she/ said! Badda-boom badda-bing!`
`21:45.23`	`Kirov`	`Lunessa - as long as it's not "is it in yet", I'm fine.`
`21:45.38`	`Lunessa`	`nod`
`21:46.26`	`cog\|work`	`makes you wonder why the US is the only country that routinely cuts off pieces of ... pieces ... without any medical/religious reasons...`
`21:46.44`	`Lopeppeppy`	`ScytheBlade1, no thank you. I've already got one, it's very nice.`
`21:46.48`	`cog\|work`	`either that or that answers the curiosity about our obsession`
`21:46.58`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Lopeppeppy: 0_0`
`21:47.06`	`Lopeppeppy`	`wink`
`21:48.19`	`AckisWork`	`cog\|work: talking about circumcising?`
`21:48.40`	`cog\|work`	`AckisWork: aye... http://nocirc.org <-- my grandma's organization`
`21:48.54`	`Kirov`	`Did the Magelo dev ever pop in here?`
`21:49.12`	`AbsoRayne`	`@_@`
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`21:49.15`	`cog\|work`	`Kirov: not that i've seen`
`21:49.17`	`AbsoRayne`	`God im doing back tonight`
`21:49.25`	`AckisWork`	`cog\|work: well some state cleanliness as a reason /shrug (not going to that link because I'm at work sorry)`
`21:50.17`	`cog\|work`	`AckisWork: that reason falls apart horribly when you look at both the history behind its espousal as well as the plain medical truths`
`21:50.30`	`AbsoRayne`	`bad**`
`21:50.41`	`cog\|work`	`most major medical establishments (e.g. the American Academy of Pediatrics) recommend against it`
`21:51.04`	`ScytheBlade1`	`http://qdb.us/31211`
`21:52.38`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`anyone have any contact info for StrifeCUK, the current maintainer of Healbot Continued?`
`21:55.38`	`ckknight`	`cog\|work: down with circumcision!`
`21:55.55`	`ckknight`	`cog\|work: I consider it a grievous and brutal act`
`21:56.15`	`AckisWork`	`ckknight changes his name to circumcisionknight :P`
`21:56.33`	`cog\|work`	`thanks to my grandmother, rates have dropped from >80% to <35% in california over the last 30 yrs`
`21:56.51`	`cog\|work`	`with similar though less drastic stats across the country`
`21:57.36`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Whee power outage`
`21:57.59`	`cog\|work`	`how much time do you have?`
`21:58.00`	`cog\|work`	`:P`
`21:58.31`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Several hours, I switched to my laptop and left my ~5 watt wifi router plugged in`
`21:59.05`	`ScytheBlade1`	`The UPS in question can power my desktops + monitors going full blast for just under 30 minutes, so I'd imagine that just the router would last possibly a day`
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`22:02.05`	`ScytheBlade1`	`http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=BR1500`
`22:02.28`	`cog\|work`	`that's what i've got powering my desktop & server`
`22:02.42`	`cog\|work`	`wife has a BR900 for her desktop and our router`
`22:02.52`	`ScytheBlade1`	`It's a very very nice UPS`
`22:04.37`	`Lunessa`	`I need to get one.`
`22:04.56`	`Lunessa`	`UPS, not the other topic.`
`22:05.24`	`ScytheBlade1`	`haha`
`22:06.30`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I'm trying to come up with a terrible pun, but nothing is coming :(`
`22:06.58`	`cog\|work`	`I'm trying to come up with one about what you just said but ... same deal...`
`22:07.10`	`Lunessa`	`... oy.`
`22:10.22`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Ha, PTR forums got a new sticky`
`22:10.23`	`ScytheBlade1`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7475717708&sid=1`
`22:10.46`	`Lopeppeppy`	`... I have a pun. It's so X rated I'm not going there.`
`22:11.09`	`cog\|work`	`hortus++`
`22:11.40`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Gnomes rule the world.`
`22:13.04`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Hortus also got a complaint via CS forums today`
`22:13.05`	`ScytheBlade1`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7475658534&sid=1`
`22:13.12`	`AbsoRayne`	`http://i27.tinypic.com/28tac7.jpg Make me hate it, kthnx`
`22:13.40`	`AckisWork`	`CS forums are 100% crap`
`22:14.12`	`foxlit`	`Rayne: turn on multisampling or perish!`
`22:14.30`	`AbsoRayne`	`foxlit 24 24 1`
`22:14.46`	`foxlit`	`see, that 1 is "no multisampling"`
`22:14.52`	`AbsoRayne`	`When my new card comes in ill turn it on`
`22:18.07`	`Kirov`	`You're only running 24 24 1?! Dude, you gotta turn it up to at least 256 256 1024`
`22:18.47`	`Kirov`	`I hear the GT280++ XO can do like 5000 fps at 9000x5000 resolution!`
`22:18.57`	`\|Jelly\|`	`ZOMG`
`22:19.08`	`AbsoRayne`	`...`
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`22:36.04`	`Milenko`	`any one here good with shareing data between addon users?`
`22:36.19`	`Milenko`	`im sure ill get flamed for that question now that i asked it.`
`22:36.31`	`tlund`	`Milenko: indeed.`
`22:36.41`	`tlund`	`Milenko: just ask your question. dont ask if you can ask.`
`22:36.44`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Sharing in what way?`
`22:37.13`	`Milenko`	`like how GroupCalendar shares the calendar data between its users.`
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`22:41.52`	`ckknight`	`Milenko: I've done a lot of comm stuff, and some distributed database work, but nothing along the lines you're talking about`
`22:42.06`	`Milenko`	`hrmm bummer`
`22:42.19`	`Milenko`	`i just want to add a shared database functionality to our loot system`
`22:47.43`	`cog\|work`	`is ddj.com not responding for anyone else?`
`22:47.59`	`Sixen`	`Works for me`
`22:48.04`	`wereHamster`	`cog\|work: works for me, too`
`22:48.06`	`cog\|work`	`hrm`
`22:48.06`	`Sixen`	`www.ddj.com ; right?`
`22:48.09`	`cog\|work`	`aye`
`22:48.15`	`Sixen`	`Yup, works.`
`22:48.31`	`cog\|work`	`O.o`
`22:48.43`	`cog\|work`	`why would only opera be unable to access it?`
`22:50.10`	`cog\|work`	`restarting it worked... odd`
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`22:55.20`	`Sixen`	`Cog, you still here?`
`22:56.18`	`cog\|work`	`mostly :P`
`23:02.15`	`Sixen`	`~seen duman`
`23:02.17`	`purl`	`duman is currently on #wowuidev (5h 49m 35s), last said: 'or ipfw might do it'.`
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`23:03.46`	`Anaral`	`:)`
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`23:21.14`	`clad\|away`	`whoever was asking for the Blizzard Interface Art in PNG format: http://wowprogramming.com/downloads for the full kit, and you can use http://wowprogramming.com/utils/blpviewer to view the files one at a time in a file-explorer type interface (still in progress)`
`23:21.55`	`Anaral`	`Is there a place I can get the hexi codes for GTK+ without just spamming all kabillion of them in a channel?`
`23:23.59`	`Thunder_Child`	`kabillion huh`
`23:24.39`	`Anaral`	`Well how ever many combos you can make from E000-Ewhatever.`
`23:24.49`	`Anaral`	`I can't remember the value.`
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`23:38.16`	`foxlit`	`http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=595431&cid=23942073`
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`23:47.57`	`Zurik`	`what is the SetScript event that i'm looking for for a CheckBoxTemplate?`
`23:48.10`	`Zurik`	`is it OnClick? or OnUpdate?`
`23:52.37`	`wereHamster`	`only you know...`
`23:53.11`	`Zurik`	`?`
`23:53.48`	`wereHamster`	`which event are you looking for? when someone clicks the check box?`
`23:53.51`	`Zurik`	`I am trying to figure out how to check if a checkbox is checked.. and fire a function if it changes state.`
`23:53.55`	`Zurik`	`yeah.`
`23:54.06`	`wereHamster`	`didn't wowwiki help?`
`23:54.15`	`Zurik`	`i couldn't find it on wow wiki`
`23:54.19`	`Zurik`	`searched for UICheckButtonTemplate`
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`23:54.35`	`Zurik`	`found nada`
`23:54.56`	`Zurik`	`if you got the link handy.. i'd gladly take a look at it :)`
`23:54.59`	`wereHamster`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_handlers`
`23:55.58`	`Zurik`	`ok cool. so it's OnUpdate .. that's what i'm looking for.`
`23:56.07`	`Zurik`	`now how do i get the status of a checkboxes state?`
`23:56.11`	`wereHamster`	`I first went here: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Frame_SetScript then saw the link under Parameters -> Arguments -> handler`
`23:56.15`	`Zurik`	`to know if it's checked or unchecked?`
`23:56.43`	`wereHamster`	`oh come on..`
`23:56.44`	`Zurik`	`cool thanks, yeah i'm not that great at finding what i need yet.`
`23:56.55`	`wereHamster`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/API_CheckButton_GetChecked`
`23:57.17`	`Zurik`	`how do you find that stuff so fast man? i've bene looking for this for 30 mins?`
`23:57.23`	`wereHamster`	`when you need to find out something about the wigdets, look here: http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API`
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`23:58.05`	`Zurik`	`ok.`
`23:58.25`	`Zurik`	`thank you, appreciate your patients with me were. :)`
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`23:59.35`	`wereHamster`	`Use google (along with site:wowwiki.com) or the wowwiki builtin search. And also check out this webpage: http://www.wowwiki.com/Portal:Interface_customization`

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