| 00:00.19 | Corrodias | Lunessa: true, and WoW has failed. |
| 00:00.53 | Lunessa | Yes. As has nearly every other game. |
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| 00:04.36 | Corrodias | no argument there |
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| 00:16.36 | Legorol | I think the fundamental problem with trying to engage players in group activity is that, ultimately, this is supposed to be a game and entertainment to many folks. |
| 00:17.09 | Legorol | People are fundamentally selfish, and don't want to put effort into doing it in a group when it's supposed to be for fun. |
| 00:17.13 | Legorol | Am I too cynical? |
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| 00:22.09 | Anaral | Okay in WoW's additional grave yard placement, why the heck was not a second one put in the burning steppes? |
| 00:22.21 | Nechckn | perhaps a bit Legorol |
| 00:22.31 | Nechckn | I wouldn't quite say all people are that way |
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| 00:22.56 | Nechckn | Anaral yeah.. some of the graveyards are just crazily placed |
| 00:23.12 | Nechckn | at least they added a few semi-recently |
| 00:24.20 | Nechckn | one reason I like my NE druid |
| 00:26.18 | Anaral | Ugh... My 38 hunter was able to get the undercity and wpl flames with no dieing, in burning steppes, I've been here for almost an hour. |
| 00:31.09 | ScytheBlade1 | haha, I picked up all of the seasonal "for looks" gear on my druid |
| 00:31.21 | ScytheBlade1 | fyi: you can /use the chest and boots in tree form, and dance in flames |
| 00:34.39 | Anaral | That is awesome! |
| 00:34.50 | Lunessa | Burning Steppes - like getting herpes - it's with you forever. |
| 00:35.23 | Dashkal | wow... ok, seems I need to log in and do those... |
| 00:35.41 | Dashkal | dancing fire tree sounds awesome :p |
| 00:35.47 | Anaral | Lunessa: Harr! |
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| 00:42.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Dashkal: it IS awesome |
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| 00:44.03 | Dashkal | Suddenly I'm reminded of the druid comic where the feral says they should just get along... |
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| 01:17.08 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/misc/fire.jpg |
| 01:17.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Do note the burning tree in the corner |
| 01:18.07 | Anaral | Heh, that is just awesome |
| 01:18.16 | Cairenn | ScytheBlade1: what is that from? |
| 01:18.21 | Cairenn | photoshopped? |
| 01:18.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: the gear you get from the Midsummer event |
| 01:18.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Not photoshopped |
| 01:18.33 | Cairenn | ahhhh |
| 01:18.44 | ScytheBlade1 | That's my mage (not that you can see) in the very middle and my druid in the top right |
| 01:18.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I sent that off to the ssotd people. With any luck, we'll see |
| 01:19.00 | Cairenn | :) |
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| 01:24.57 | Legorol | has US received 2.4.3? |
| 01:25.09 | ScytheBlade1 | No |
| 01:25.17 | ScytheBlade1 | They just pushed Brewfest to the PTR |
| 01:25.19 | ScytheBlade1 | So +1mo |
| 01:27.49 | Anaral | ScytheBlade1: By that logic, midsummer fest should have been 2 months ago. ;) |
| 01:29.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Anaral: +1mo until we see 2.4.3, not until Brewfest ;) |
| 01:35.21 | Cairenn | Seerah: ROFL |
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| 01:48.40 | Lunessa | Nerf weapons are srs bsns. |
| 01:50.17 | Tem | nerf weapons |
| 01:50.43 | Lunessa | http://www.hasbro.com/nerf/default.cfm?page=browse&pg=1&viewall=yes&&http_accept_language=en-us,en;q=0.5&sort=display_priority,displayname&remote_addr=129.7.93.207&subbrand=99&legacylocaleswitch=false&reinit=false&style=pictures - DO WANT |
| 01:51.32 | Lunessa | http://host.exemplum.com/hasbro/nerf_nstrike/demo.html |
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| 02:10.09 | Anaral | Evening Ackis |
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| 02:15.59 | ScytheBlade1 | For the SWING_MISSED event (where arg1 == "PARRY"), srcName is the person who swung the weapon and dstName is the person who parried |
| 02:16.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Does that check logically? |
| 02:16.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Or would I switch src and dst? |
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| 02:18.19 | MentalPower | can anyone explain to me why WinHttp is so friggin hard? |
| 02:18.51 | MentalPower | I mean seriously, *three* calls to three diff functions just to open the damn socket? |
| 02:20.43 | Legorol | Someone just informed me of something: apparently with S4 start, you lose any arena points above 5k, is that true? |
| 02:21.07 | Mikk | MentalPower: that's not winhttp, it's the bsd socket standard |
| 02:21.09 | Legorol | I'd love a blue link on that. |
| 02:21.25 | Mikk | you'll find out tomorrow! |
| 02:21.43 | Mikk | MentalPower: ignore me, i read winsock |
| 02:21.49 | Legorol | lol Mikk, that's not what i was looking for |
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| 02:33.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh man, I am an awesome coder |
| 02:33.14 | ScytheBlade1 | frame:RegisterEvent("frame") |
| 02:34.01 | ScytheBlade1 | CLOSE BUT NO CIGAR |
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| 02:38.26 | ScytheBlade1 | http://wowi.pastey.net/89953 |
| 02:38.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Can anyone see the problem by chance? |
| 02:38.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Just supposed to say something in a channel whenever a parry happens |
| 02:39.33 | Lunessa | I don't know. I'm still pre-occupied with 19...19... 1985 |
| 02:39.37 | ScytheBlade1 | It has to be something stupid |
| 02:40.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Err, 84 by chance? |
| 02:42.46 | Lunessa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dMmNcT3 |
| 02:42.52 | Lunessa | And I'm looking at your code now. |
| 02:43.19 | ScytheBlade1 | It has to be something so simple and stupid.. |
| 02:43.34 | ScytheBlade1 | It used to filter friendly/hostile (hence the locals) but no output |
| 02:43.58 | ScytheBlade1 | So I removed that, and still no output |
| 02:44.28 | Lunessa | Ummm... PARRY_ENABLED is always = 1. |
| 02:45.10 | ScytheBlade1 | I toggle that at runtime when I want to turn it off |
| 02:45.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Or rather, once I get it working, I can shut it off |
| 02:45.30 | Lunessa | Ok. |
| 02:46.33 | Lunessa | Are you sure you have the right arg as PARRY? |
| 02:47.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Check the combat log excerpts (commented out) |
| 02:48.16 | ScytheBlade1 | They look right to me |
| 02:50.15 | Lunessa | I see no obvious flaw - perhaps though you're missing an arg and so arg1 and arg 4 never get set to parry. Check their values? |
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| 02:50.34 | Jbspeyer | hey gusy i was wondering... |
| 02:50.42 | Jbspeyer | is cosmos the best Warcraft addon UI platform? |
| 02:50.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: that's probably next |
| 02:50.47 | Jbspeyer | or should i use wowmatrix |
| 02:51.35 | Lunessa | ScytheBlade1: All I can guess is that you're testing for a value of PARRY and you never see it. |
| 02:52.09 | Lunessa | Which makes me think that either a) you're not parrying, or b) you've got the value wrong because you're grabbing the wrong variable. |
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| 02:54.36 | Lunessa | .. reading the forums shows you routinely which WoW players are the biggest 'tards about personal computing security. |
| 02:54.46 | Sixen | agreed. |
| 02:55.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: yeah, you're right, I was just hoping for something blindly obvious that I was doing wrong. Thanks though |
| 02:55.29 | kd3 | meh, the population in general doesn't know anything about computer security... |
| 02:55.37 | kd3 | maybe the next gen of kids will be better about it |
| 02:55.58 | ScytheBlade1 | "I post my cell phone number on myspace and I'm 12 years old!" |
| 02:56.08 | Sixen | Lawlz |
| 02:56.11 | Lunessa | kd3: Hell, I'm lazy about it in some cases, but the number of posts from people auto-posting keylogger links is amusing. |
| 02:56.36 | Sixen | It's even worse now that we get to copy/paste the keyloggers ourselves. |
| 02:57.00 | kd3 | lmao, yah |
| 02:57.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, here's one way to do it |
| 02:57.14 | ScytheBlade1 | DevTools_Dump(...) |
| 02:57.58 | ScytheBlade1 | .... hahahaha I AM a tard |
| 02:58.07 | Lunessa | Arooo? Share? |
| 02:58.08 | ScytheBlade1 | I forgot the date and timestamp. |
| 02:58.16 | Lunessa | *chuckle* |
| 02:58.51 | ScytheBlade1 | local timestamp, cevent = ... -- right! |
| 02:58.56 | ScytheBlade1 | local cevent = ... -- wrong! |
| 02:59.35 | Lunessa | Excellent. A small fix and it should work! |
| 02:59.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup, reloading now |
| 02:59.50 | MentalPower | nice :) |
| 02:59.53 | Sixen | What're we doing? |
| 02:59.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Laughing at me |
| 02:59.59 | ScytheBlade1 | That's about it |
| 03:00.02 | Sixen | <3 |
| 03:00.32 | Lunessa | This moment brought to you by 20+ years of looking at other people's code. |
| 03:00.42 | Sixen | hahah |
| 03:01.28 | ScytheBlade1 | If all else fails, there is always tinsert(tempTable, ...) |
| 03:01.58 | kd3 | bleh. if only there was an api call where we could point it to a unit and have it return 'dragonspawn', 'fel orc', etc instead of 'dragonkin', 'humanoid' |
| 03:02.20 | Gnarfoz | ~seen kyahx |
| 03:02.23 | purl | kyahx <n=Kyahx@74-47-88-208.dr01.cnfl.mn.frontiernet.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 2d 3h 41m 15s ago, saying: 'meaning the biggest border I could have is 64*512'. |
| 03:02.23 | Sixen | What are CIA & JIRA bots? |
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| 03:02.49 | Lunessa | kd3 - nod - be pretty handy for you and other Wiki data gatherers. |
| 03:02.49 | kd3 | bots that spam the channel every time someone does an svn commit |
| 03:02.54 | ScytheBlade1 | And it still fails |
| 03:03.07 | Sixen | Ah |
| 03:03.15 | Sixen | And kd3, who would I report a Wiki error to? |
| 03:03.22 | Lunessa | ScytheBlade1: Did you dump the variable? |
| 03:03.27 | kd3 | me, or use the 'report a problem' link at the bottom of the page |
| 03:03.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: not yet |
| 03:03.41 | Sixen | Oh well, care to hear? |
| 03:03.45 | kd3 | shoot |
| 03:03.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: trying to AE Hyjal trash at the same time |
| 03:03.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: makes for strained development time ;) |
| 03:04.08 | Sixen | The PosterID is bugged. It only works if the user is on a forum that is sid=1 |
| 03:04.17 | Lunessa | ... I don't know if I want to slap you more for coding during a raid, or for getting to raid where I've never been... |
| 03:04.29 | Sixen | The US-Latin forums are &sid=2, same with French/German/spanish on the European forums. |
| 03:04.36 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 03:04.43 | Sixen | The ID automatically assumes it's &sid=1. |
| 03:04.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Either is fine, as you at least looked it over. :) |
| 03:04.45 | kd3 | ah. yah, that's not normally a problem we'd run in to. I'll see if I can poke one of the template gurus |
| 03:05.05 | Sixen | get what i'm saying though? =P. |
| 03:05.17 | kd3 | yah, looking at the code of the template now |
| 03:05.24 | Sixen | <3 |
| 03:06.06 | ScytheBlade1 | http://wowi.pastey.net/89955-3bbr:89953-27cz |
| 03:06.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Have some cheap debugging! |
| 03:09.06 | kd3 | ok. the template now supports the sid tag, 1 by default, do sid=2 for esMX posters, for example |
| 03:09.14 | Lunessa | lol parry |
| 03:09.19 | ScytheBlade1 | lol parry |
| 03:09.42 | Sixen | I see |
| 03:09.52 | Sixen | So it's just |
| 03:09.57 | Sixen | ID and then under it put sid=2? |
| 03:10.11 | kd3 | yah |
| 03:10.28 | kd3 | rofl |
| 03:10.49 | Sixen | =P |
| 03:11.43 | kd3 | like this: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Luumht&diff=1423047&oldid=1317013 |
| 03:11.49 | Sixen | lol what the hell? |
| 03:11.59 | Sixen | I found a forum? |
| 03:12.03 | Sixen | http://forums.wow-europe.com/maintenance.html?sid=5 |
| 03:12.05 | Sixen | Is that Arabian...? |
| 03:12.14 | kd3 | russian |
| 03:12.20 | Sixen | Oh fo sho |
| 03:12.28 | Sixen | They have a forum but it's not official I guess? |
| 03:12.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm. |
| 03:12.43 | ScytheBlade1 | it appears that my function isn't firing. Ever. |
| 03:12.46 | kd3 | they've been trying to translate the game into russian for a while. I remember seeing posts about it |
| 03:12.58 | kd3 | there's UI stuff handling russian-specific stuff like declensions too |
| 03:13.30 | Sixen | Ah |
| 03:14.52 | Sixen | hmmmm Is it be or is it bugging out? |
| 03:16.33 | Sixen | hmmmm~ |
| 03:20.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: see anything in that which would cause the function to never fire at all? |
| 03:23.32 | Lunessa | ScytheBlade1: I see you register for COMBAT_LOG_OBJECT_UNFILTERED... Don't you mean COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED ? |
| 03:24.42 | Lunessa | Hey, I had to read it like 5 times before I noticed. |
| 03:25.17 | ScytheBlade1 | This is why coding while raiding is a bad idea |
| 03:25.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Notably when you're a mage and expected to run oom every minute or you're doing something wrong |
| 03:25.58 | ScytheBlade1 | (Like not paying attention) |
| 03:26.28 | batrick | aye : / |
| 03:26.39 | batrick | shoulda rolled a rogue lol! |
| 03:26.52 | ScytheBlade1 | lolrogue |
| 03:27.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Now to reload between waves! |
| 03:29.20 | ScytheBlade1 | IT WORKS |
| 03:29.21 | ScytheBlade1 | WIN |
| 03:29.39 | Sixen | winnrar iz u |
| 03:29.52 | Tem | what the shit |
| 03:29.56 | Tem | I just got spam from blizzard |
| 03:30.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Tem: the TCG stuff? |
| 03:30.04 | kd3 | o_O;? |
| 03:30.04 | Sixen | ? |
| 03:30.23 | Tem | "pay us 20 bucks to lose at arena in a highly stressful environment" |
| 03:30.36 | Sixen | o_O |
| 03:30.58 | Tem | Arena Tournament spam |
| 03:31.02 | Sixen | Nothin' for me. |
| 03:31.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: thanks |
| 03:31.41 | Lunessa | ScytheBlade1: Prego. |
| 03:33.22 | Lunessa | And I'm out. Time to go home. |
| 03:33.28 | kd3 | lol. they're finally bringing out the banhammer for forming losing premades |
| 03:33.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Good |
| 03:34.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Sbo has slain Anetheron! |
| 03:35.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Nothing quite like Fireblast ninja kills |
| 03:35.25 | kd3 | har |
| 03:35.57 | Sixen | lol |
| 03:39.01 | Sixen | Where the hell are people coming up with this "Universe of Starcraft"... |
| 03:39.27 | ScytheBlade1 | s/Universe/World/ and it makes sense |
| 03:39.35 | kd3 | it's an open secret that blizz is developing a second mmo... the question is... diablo or starcraft? |
| 03:39.47 | ScytheBlade1 | diablo |
| 03:39.49 | ScytheBlade1 | PLEASE DIABLE |
| 03:39.54 | ScytheBlade1 | *DIABLO |
| 03:39.58 | Sixen | Yeah, where are people getting these pictures? |
| 03:40.07 | Sixen | http://www.pixelserver06.de/bilder/scmmo/universe.jpg |
| 03:40.08 | Sixen | http://www.pixelserver06.de/bilder/scmmo/universe_2.jpg |
| 03:40.11 | Sixen | http://www.pixelserver06.de/bilder/scmmo/universe_3.jpg |
| 03:41.17 | kd3 | right now I'm going to say "poorly done photoshop". the text doesn't look right |
| 03:41.31 | ScytheBlade1 | The background is off of blizzard.com (_2) |
| 03:41.37 | Sixen | Yeah |
| 03:41.43 | Sixen | But the picture looks like it goes that way =o |
| 03:41.43 | kd3 | and the icons in universe_1/3 aren't in the same spot |
| 03:41.49 | Sixen | And where'd the 3rd one come from? |
| 03:42.53 | Anaral|Away | Photoshop of the Blizz splash screen |
| 03:43.12 | Sixen | It looks pretty good though, o_O |
| 03:43.33 | Anaral|Away | Not that I'm here. I'm away... but if I had to guess while being away... I'd say definitely ps. |
| 03:43.50 | Sixen | Hehe |
| 03:44.04 | kd3 | the art guys wouldn't do that bad of a job on the text... the aliasing is pretty horrible |
| 03:44.33 | Sixen | True |
| 03:44.59 | Sixen | http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/retard-rickshaw/77618d1214259813-possible-teaser-diablo-iii-ice11ti3.jpg |
| 03:45.00 | Sixen | Oh god. |
| 03:45.01 | Anaral|Away | And Blizz wouldn't make the pics 1024x768, they'd be larger. |
| 03:45.22 | kd3 | lmfao @ foh's version |
| 03:45.32 | Sixen | Yeah lawl |
| 03:45.55 | kd3 | the background is that size, though... http://us.media.blizzard.com/232309/_images/ice1.jpg |
| 03:46.24 | kd3 | er, roughly that size |
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| 04:05.10 | Shirik | he deserved it :P |
| 04:05.22 | Shirik | MentalPower will agree with me |
| 04:05.24 | NightHawkTheSane | I dont doubt it. :P |
| 04:05.25 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 04:07.25 | MentalPower | :) |
| 04:11.37 | Tekkub | I love how, even though they could do it with a 12yo mac, Stephen Hawking always does his "voice" for cameos |
| 04:11.43 | Tekkub | <3 futurama |
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| 04:23.22 | zespri_work | I think Cairenn is a bot. She just says "rofl" from time to time and not much else... =) |
| 04:25.45 | ScytheBlade1 | She's been accused of worse |
| 04:26.49 | Cairenn | :p |
| 04:26.54 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 04:29.22 | MentalPower | bbl |
| 04:29.33 | Cairenn | bye |
| 04:29.57 | MentalPower | friggin ISP |
| 04:30.07 | kd3 | supposed to be getting up to go on vacation til sunday in 7 hours |
| 04:38.47 | Sixen | =o |
| 04:39.04 | Sixen | Where's vacation? |
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| 04:40.46 | kd3 | florida |
| 04:40.52 | kd3 | panama cityish |
| 04:41.23 | Sixen | Nice |
| 04:43.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Finally, T6 gloves |
| 04:43.34 | ScytheBlade1 | It's only been... twoish months since they've been dropping |
| 04:55.43 | Legorol | damn, someone was wrong in the interwebz, i staid up too late |
| 04:55.49 | Legorol | or as in this case, he may have been right |
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| 05:05.04 | Mikk | Shocker @ 6: Legorol may have been wrong about someone being wrong in teh interweb! |
| 05:05.23 | Legorol | lol |
| 05:05.40 | Legorol | If there are any raiders around, here is a question about your opinion on flasks. |
| 05:05.53 | Legorol | I understand that most raid groups like to use flasks, but are flasks an absolute necessity? |
| 05:06.02 | Legorol | In other words, how are raid bosses tuned? |
| 05:06.19 | Legorol | Should they be reasonably doable (with gear available up to that boss) without flasks? |
| 05:06.25 | Legorol | or should they be insanely hard without them |
| 05:09.18 | zethe | if sunwell bosses were "reasonably doable" without flasks, using flasks would make it too easy |
| 05:10.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Nothing in BT requires a flask |
| 05:10.17 | ScytheBlade1 | BT and below, nothing requires it, anywhere |
| 05:10.26 | zethe | yeah def |
| 05:10.37 | Tekkub | I'm a harrible raider, I rarely even use food |
| 05:11.18 | ScytheBlade1 | I brought nine flasks, 60 destro potions, 36 food, and 10 hours of wizard oil tonight |
| 05:11.21 | ScytheBlade1 | =[ |
| 05:11.23 | zethe | i'd be fine with flasks/elixirs not existing, but encounters are tuned with the expectation that they will be used, so it's a necessity in sunwell |
| 05:12.49 | Tekkub | yea but the price of flask hasn't changed by too much, whereas the inflow of cash has gone up a lot |
| 05:13.07 | Tekkub | not that I've EVER bought a flask... |
| 05:13.11 | ScytheBlade1 | same |
| 05:13.16 | ScytheBlade1 | herbalism ftw ^^ |
| 05:13.20 | Tekkub | elixirs sure, flask, nope |
| 05:15.11 | Tekkub | ReverseEngineering still around, or it break long ago? hrm... |
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| 05:16.36 | Tekkub | still around, and de-aced... sweeeeet |
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| 05:17.59 | Mikk | Legorol: for most guilds, you really do need to be buffed silly when starting out on an encounter |
| 05:18.10 | Mikk | of course, when you've progressed passed it and geared up more, you can skip it |
| 05:18.29 | Mikk | this obviously does not apply to pushover bosses >.< |
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| 05:19.04 | Mikk | (think 1st boss in MH, which was a freebie kill for guilds that had just managed to get a full raid attuned to MH) |
| 05:19.21 | Tekkub | Mikk, got all-scan working in tekauc |
| 05:19.31 | Mikk | And yeah some asshole classes like healers like to cheat |
| 05:19.32 | Tekkub | Where do you want your buttbabies? |
| 05:19.51 | Legorol | Mikk: you have unfortunately not answered my question, perhaps because i didn't phrase it well enough. |
| 05:20.04 | Legorol | Of course once you are geared past a boss, consumable requirements decrease. |
| 05:20.09 | Mikk | "I didn't oom, hence I didn't need more buffs. We wiped? Not my fault!" |
| 05:20.32 | Legorol | My question was: what is the consumable requirement on a boss where you are fully geared up, but not beyond, that boss. |
| 05:20.38 | Tekkub | well, if you were gonna down a pot that gave you mana, sure |
| 05:20.50 | Legorol | And by requirement I mean not what your guild makes you do, but what is necessary by design to succeed. |
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| 05:21.24 | Tekkub | it's designed around people having the consumable frequetly available |
| 05:21.33 | Legorol | but is it doable without? |
| 05:21.38 | Legorol | for example, the tuning of the enrage timers. |
| 05:21.52 | Mikk | enrage timers TEND to be much longer than you actually need |
| 05:21.53 | Tekkub | it might be, it all depends on SKILL |
| 05:22.04 | Legorol | and we specifically argued about flasks |
| 05:22.06 | Legorol | not potions |
| 05:22.10 | Legorol | potions are a necessary tool |
| 05:22.15 | dylanm | Tekkub: What'd you do? |
| 05:22.20 | Tekkub | flasks and elixirs are what they're tuned around |
| 05:22.26 | Legorol | basically i had an argument with someone, and i claimed that assuming you have all the gear up to that point (and no cheating with badge gear), you should be able to take the boss without flasks |
| 05:22.29 | Mikk | yeah but there's leeway for skill too |
| 05:22.32 | Tekkub | that's why you can have two elixirs OR one flask |
| 05:22.50 | Mikk | i mean, they don't tune it so the 1% most skilled players in the world need to be fully buffed |
| 05:22.51 | Tekkub | "all the gear" well hell yes |
| 05:23.09 | Legorol | example: |
| 05:23.10 | Tekkub | but how do you gear out a full raid with everything they need up to the boss, but nothing beyond? |
| 05:23.23 | Mikk | lots of farming :) |
| 05:23.27 | Legorol | if you had all the gear from T4 level, so everything from kara/gruul/maggy/original heroic badge loot, |
| 05:23.29 | Mikk | (which in practice never happens) |
| 05:23.33 | Legorol | could you do hydross without flasks? |
| 05:23.39 | Mikk | hell yes |
| 05:23.45 | Tekkub | everyone's gonna be a partial mish of this tier's gear and the last's unless the zone is on farm for a while |
| 05:23.50 | Legorol | ofc it doesn't happen in practice |
| 05:23.51 | Tekkub | and then you don't need flasks |
| 05:23.59 | Legorol | Tekkub: sure, i understand that |
| 05:24.17 | Legorol | someone claimed bosses are tuned so you must have flasks, even if you have the gear up to that point |
| 05:24.25 | Mikk | that's false |
| 05:24.27 | Legorol | that is mish-mash gear |
| 05:24.29 | Legorol | not all gear |
| 05:24.34 | Legorol | bleh, i'm incoherent |
| 05:24.35 | Tekkub | think of it differently... |
| 05:24.36 | Legorol | what i meant is: |
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| 05:24.43 | Tekkub | bosses are tuned around the gear they drop |
| 05:24.53 | Legorol | someone claimed that you must have flasks to progress, you can't progress without, as bosses are tuned that way |
| 05:24.54 | Tekkub | consumables plug the holes in older gear |
| 05:25.21 | Tekkub | I'm sure you could progress without flasks... you could progress with an all-druid raid... |
| 05:25.24 | Tekkub | it's just easier |
| 05:25.24 | Legorol | how much older? |
| 05:25.26 | Mikk | enough skill lets you get away with piss-poor gear and no buffs, really |
| 05:25.32 | Legorol | what level of gear do you need to succeed without flasks? |
| 05:25.33 | Tekkub | older = one tier below |
| 05:25.35 | Nechckn | hmm.. what about enchants? |
| 05:25.39 | Nechckn | same idea? |
| 05:25.57 | Tekkub | what exuse is there for NOT enchanting your gear? |
| 05:26.03 | Legorol | it's costly |
| 05:26.08 | Legorol | that's one excuse :) |
| 05:26.11 | Tekkub | aside from "I don't want to spend money" |
| 05:26.21 | Mikk | the same could arguably be said about buffs |
| 05:26.22 | Legorol | also, it takes time, and understanding of what enchantments are available |
| 05:26.25 | Legorol | so it takes research |
| 05:26.29 | Nechckn | Well.. I'm just asking is all |
| 05:26.30 | Legorol | and knowledge of class mechanics |
| 05:26.36 | Legorol | Nechckn has a good point |
| 05:26.37 | Tekkub | no it doesn't! be.imba.hu ! |
| 05:26.47 | Mikk | if you don't know those, you're not really gonna progress to begin with |
| 05:26.49 | Legorol | good point, Tekkub |
| 05:26.50 | Mikk | not in tbc |
| 05:26.54 | Tekkub | 10 sec, you get a nice list of what you've chanted wrong |
| 05:27.02 | Legorol | Mikk: actually i disagree |
| 05:27.03 | Tekkub | or not at all |
| 05:27.08 | Legorol | i have a peculiar example in my guild |
| 05:27.24 | Legorol | We have an imba druid healer, amazing skills, but basically no time to play. |
| 05:27.32 | Legorol | He barely has time to repair for a raid and get mana pots. |
| 05:27.45 | Legorol | He shows up once a week for a 25-man, and blows everyone else out of the water. |
| 05:28.00 | Legorol | But (and this is the funny part) he is clueless about enchants. |
| 05:28.06 | Tekkub | I need to get back to being a once or twice a week raider |
| 05:28.07 | Mikk | Healing is a role where skill >>>>>>>>>> gear |
| 05:28.09 | Tekkub | *sigh* |
| 05:28.18 | Tekkub | all I do is level with Tef and write addons |
| 05:28.18 | Nechckn | if you say that consumables plug the holes.. do you consider the enchants on all of the gear to be "needed" or "nice to have"? |
| 05:28.21 | Tekkub | and abuse the AH |
| 05:28.26 | Mikk | But if you don't understand how to get crit immune as a tank -- bai |
| 05:28.30 | Legorol | He never read up on them, doesn't know who makes them, what's needed for them, and which ones are available. |
| 05:28.31 | Nechckn | I'm just curious as to your thoughts is all |
| 05:28.36 | Tekkub | but thanks to the AH I'll be getting me a bear mount :) |
| 05:28.39 | Mikk | If all your DPSers are clueless on how to spec and enchant to max dps -- stuff doesnt die fast enough |
| 05:28.50 | Legorol | Nechckn: that's something i was also going to ask |
| 05:28.55 | Tekkub | Mikk, it's not hard to be crit-immune before you ever raid :) |
| 05:28.57 | Legorol | Are enchants part of the tuning? |
| 05:28.58 | Tekkub | so I agree |
| 05:29.25 | Mikk | Tekkub: didnt say it was hard... but if you like strength because it makes you block more, and stamina because you get big hitpoints, and that's all you gear for....? |
| 05:29.49 | Tekkub | Mikk, then you have a DPS alt that's not hitcapped |
| 05:29.53 | Tekkub | what's your point? |
| 05:29.57 | Tekkub | :) |
| 05:30.28 | Mikk | I'm saying that basic understanding of class mechanics is pretty much a requirement to progress. |
| 05:30.45 | Mikk | With partial exceptions for healers. |
| 05:30.55 | Legorol | sure, i expect people to understand class mechanics |
| 05:31.10 | Legorol | this discussion wasn't about that though |
| 05:31.10 | Legorol | it was about how bosses are tuned |
| 05:31.12 | Legorol | whether that tuning requires flasks and/or enchants |
| 05:31.37 | Legorol | You see, it's hard to judge because thanks to badge gear, people are attempting encounters they already partly outgear. |
| 05:31.46 | Legorol | You can no longer have a pure test of what Hydross would be like. |
| 05:32.06 | Tekkub | bosses are tuned around people of that level using as much of the resources they have available to them at that point |
| 05:32.10 | Tekkub | it's that simple |
| 05:32.21 | Legorol | so without flaks+enchant, you fail? |
| 05:32.23 | Mikk | yeah but with enough skill you dont really need, specifically, flasks |
| 05:32.43 | Tekkub | it's not a hard requirement that you HAVE every chant and buff, it just makes the boss that much easier and give you more fuckup room |
| 05:32.45 | Mikk | because really hydross is a piece of piss once people get through their heads that they need to move and/or stop generating aggro on the switch |
| 05:33.19 | Legorol | Mikk: i wish that were true :) |
| 05:33.29 | Legorol | there are many other aspects of that fight that give plenty of chance for messups |
| 05:33.34 | Legorol | tanking the adds for example |
| 05:33.38 | Tekkub | that's really about the best way to put it, flasks and such give you more room to fuck up and recover |
| 05:33.54 | Legorol | AoE starting too soon, OTs dieing due to lack of healing etc. |
| 05:34.06 | Mikk | ^ lack of skill, again :P |
| 05:34.19 | Legorol | yah that's skill issue |
| 05:34.23 | Tekkub | Legorol was the OT healer |
| 05:34.27 | Mikk | ah |
| 05:34.27 | Legorol | but you said it's piece of piss, i'm saying it's not |
| 05:34.34 | Legorol | lol Tekkub, what? |
| 05:34.39 | Mikk | hehe |
| 05:34.43 | Legorol | i don't have a healer |
| 05:34.50 | Legorol | well i do but not in SSC |
| 05:34.50 | Mikk | that explains it then! |
| 05:35.04 | Tekkub | "piece of piss" is a bad phrase anyway... unless the piss is frozen... now "big ugly sack of piss" would work well |
| 05:35.10 | Legorol | lol |
| 05:35.10 | Mikk | ok i'll rephrase... hydross is much more of a skillcheck than it is a gearcheck |
| 05:35.16 | Mikk | if you want gearcheck, go poke brutallus |
| 05:35.29 | Legorol | hydross was a gearcheck for us when we first did him :( |
| 05:35.41 | Mikk | yeah tanks need their resists |
| 05:35.43 | Legorol | we got the mechanics right and ran out of enrage |
| 05:35.47 | Mikk | yoink |
| 05:35.48 | Legorol | we had resists :) |
| 05:35.52 | Tekkub | you know what would be cool? A PURE skillcheck boss that made everyone's gear useless |
| 05:36.08 | Legorol | the tanks are dedicated, they had every piece of gear available up to that point (yes they really did), and had resist gear |
| 05:36.09 | Tekkub | you need the gear to get to him, but then that one fight is pure nekkid skill |
| 05:36.30 | Legorol | Tekkub: oh god, please no |
| 05:36.34 | Legorol | my guild would never kill him |
| 05:36.36 | Mikk | were people actually aliev for most of the fight? |
| 05:36.39 | Nechckn | Well.. I was asking about such a thing earlier and got shot down... you know where a boss, every so often did something, well, different |
| 05:36.39 | Legorol | yes |
| 05:36.43 | Legorol | as i said, mechanics were fine |
| 05:36.48 | Legorol | we just were too low on dps |
| 05:36.51 | Mikk | buy new dpsers >.< |
| 05:36.56 | Legorol | sell some! |
| 05:36.58 | Tekkub | what is there different to do? |
| 05:37.13 | Mikk | if you've got most of the kara gear and a full raid, there's virtually no way to not kill him before enrage :S |
| 05:37.22 | Tekkub | a boss that you don't actually do battle with, instead you have a danceoff? |
| 05:37.23 | Mikk | we went into ssc on sunday just to reminisce |
| 05:37.25 | Legorol | not everyone had most of kara gear |
| 05:37.28 | Legorol | especially not dps |
| 05:37.28 | Tekkub | group 3 dance! |
| 05:37.30 | Mikk | had like 21 people when we hit hydross |
| 05:37.34 | Mikk | alts and nonraiders |
| 05:37.36 | Tekkub | group 2 dance group 3 sit! |
| 05:37.44 | Mikk | think we killed him with nearly half the enrage timer left :S |
| 05:38.01 | Nechckn | well... rather than everyone having addons saying uh oh in 20 seconds he's going to XXXX... where one time out of the boss would do something unexpected |
| 05:38.17 | Nechckn | charge the healers because he hates 'em... or the NEs or whatever |
| 05:38.26 | Nechckn | I just think it would add to the game overall |
| 05:38.44 | Tekkub | so make a boss that doesn't run on timers |
| 05:38.54 | Tekkub | just cooldowns and random triggers of the abilities |
| 05:38.57 | Nechckn | no.. I mean all bosses |
| 05:39.04 | Nechckn | or heroic, at least |
| 05:39.13 | Legorol | Tekkub: then you get malchezaar, and your raids will hate you |
| 05:39.14 | Tekkub | they're not going to go remake every boss |
| 05:39.20 | Nechckn | you know, just add some random ability or whatever is all |
| 05:39.33 | Nechckn | Not to go through and redo the entire game mechanics or anything |
| 05:39.41 | Mikk | malcheezar requires vent & being light on your toes yes :) |
| 05:39.44 | Legorol | I'm pretty said about Malchezaar actually. |
| 05:39.52 | Mikk | but yeah he can be an asshole from time to time |
| 05:39.56 | Tekkub | people hate "random" that's why they make up things like "DKP" |
| 05:39.57 | Legorol | Because we used to do it the hard way |
| 05:40.08 | Legorol | But nowadays every group i'm in just wants to do it by standing at sweet spots. |
| 05:40.22 | Legorol | Tekkub: indeed |
| 05:40.25 | Legorol | i hate dkp |
| 05:40.25 | Mikk | there's sweet spots? oO |
| 05:40.35 | Nechckn | Tekkub lol... yeah.. apparently so. It's just sort of unexciting... you see what I mean, at least |
| 05:40.39 | Legorol | that's why i'm our dkp admin, and in charge of refining it to be as fair as possible. |
| 05:40.44 | Legorol | Because I hate it, I do a very good job. |
| 05:40.50 | Tekkub | and ironically the whole game is driven by random nubmer generators... |
| 05:41.02 | Legorol | Nechckn: unfortunately, people like unexciting |
| 05:41.03 | Nechckn | that is the saddest part |
| 05:41.09 | Mikk | srsly there's sweetspots @ prince? |
| 05:41.11 | Legorol | because then they can watch the football during the raid |
| 05:41.22 | Nechckn | lol.. yeah |
| 05:41.25 | Legorol | Mikk: yeah the most popular one at the moment is this arrangement: |
| 05:41.45 | Legorol | all ranged stand at the door, tank is on the wall that goes out from the ride side of the door |
| 05:41.54 | Legorol | he stands just beyond that little crevace in that wall |
| 05:42.11 | Mikk | (not that i really care since we kill him the old fashioned way with our 2nd generation alts...) |
| 05:42.12 | Legorol | with that arrangement, there is only a single infernal landing spot between the tank and the ranged group |
| 05:42.28 | Legorol | the rest of the infernals are irrelevant |
| 05:42.40 | Legorol | you have to get very unlucky to get that particular one, and even then it only hurts the melee |
| 05:42.51 | Legorol | the tank can just stand in it and be outhealed, the ranged still doesn't have to move |
| 05:43.08 | Mikk | dur. i didn't realize there were fixed landing spots. |
| 05:43.10 | Mikk | how silly |
| 05:43.13 | Legorol | you didn't? |
| 05:43.16 | Mikk | no |
| 05:43.17 | Legorol | there is a fixed mesh |
| 05:43.27 | Legorol | We learnt that quite quickly when learning the fight |
| 05:43.28 | Mikk | we just cam up, see where it's headed, and move :P |
| 05:43.39 | Legorol | That part I like actually |
| 05:43.50 | Legorol | that there is a fixed mesh, it's slightly less random, and learning gives you a benefit |
| 05:43.55 | Legorol | but the sweet spot i don't like |
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| 05:44.09 | Mikk | or hell to make it more exciting, don't cam up, and leg it like headless chicken when an inferal lands mid-raid :o) |
| 05:44.24 | Legorol | sure, whatever |
| 05:44.33 | Legorol | i usually tank there, and i love to do my own movement |
| 05:44.41 | Legorol | it's veyr hard for the tank, that's why i find it exciting |
| 05:44.56 | Mikk | what the hell kinda race do you play that actually see anything useful there? =P |
| 05:45.02 | Legorol | gnome :) |
| 05:45.06 | Legorol | i can see between his legs |
| 05:45.07 | Mikk | hahaha |
| 05:45.08 | Legorol | i'm not kidding |
| 05:45.19 | Legorol | i position myself so i can look through the gap in his legs |
| 05:45.25 | Mikk | hahahaha nice |
| 05:45.32 | Nechckn | oh my |
| 05:45.45 | Legorol | don't get the wrong idea :P |
| 05:46.55 | Tekkub | I want to be a tank just for all that crotch action |
| 05:47.10 | Nechckn | rofl |
| 05:47.27 | Mikk | tanking raid bosses is kinda boring most times :S |
| 05:47.38 | Mikk | stand in position, hunter MD pulls, mash keys |
| 05:47.48 | Mikk | it's not like you're ever out of rage |
| 05:48.35 | Mikk | 07:47:27 [2. Trade] <DND>[Alldrin]: Yes, the most profitable job in this game is not saving kingdoms and slaying legendary heroes |
| 05:48.35 | Mikk | 07:47:31 [2. Trade] <DND>[Alldrin]: its peeing at bon fires |
| 05:49.57 | Mikk | 07:48:54 [2. Trade] [Mikk]: Lies. It's owning half the AH. |
| 05:52.11 | zespri_work | this is about 277G a day. not bad |
| 05:52.35 | Mikk | Yeah I know it's roughly the same as 25xdaily quests |
| 05:52.39 | Mikk | But dailies got old :P |
| 05:53.25 | Tekkub | profitable? |
| 05:53.25 | zespri_work | how much time do you spend in AH daily? =) |
| 05:53.35 | Tekkub | what am I missing about the fires? |
| 05:53.40 | Mikk | i dunno |
| 05:53.56 | Tekkub | all I saw was food that expires and a pet I already have |
| 05:53.58 | Mikk | gotta be something though considering there's was people with gear that costs 150 tokens the first day of the festival |
| 05:54.27 | Tekkub | yea white gear :P |
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| 05:55.43 | zespri_work | I think I'd settle for 50G a day =) I'm not greedy |
| 05:56.11 | Tekkub | I'm being greedy right now because of tomorrow |
| 05:56.12 | Tekkub | :) |
| 05:56.29 | Tekkub | I want to make assloads of cash so that I still have some after I buy my bear at the end of the week |
| 05:56.37 | zespri_work | do you know what tommorow is preparing for us? =) |
| 05:59.09 | Tekkub | if you're a gemcutter or DEer, you can make assloads tomorrow |
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| 06:02.07 | zespri_work | are you refering to the upcoming expansion, or is there is something that I'm missing in a closer patch? |
| 06:05.12 | Tekkub | Arena Season 4 |
| 06:05.21 | zespri_work | right |
| 06:05.29 | Tekkub | all the pvptard replace their gear on the same day |
| 06:05.38 | Tekkub | and they all want gems and enchants |
| 06:06.30 | zespri_work | have a good day, everyone! time to go home... |
| 06:10.14 | Tekkub | I need to get that arcanoweave pattern so I can make my dust into shards |
| 06:10.16 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:10.35 | Tekkub | but hey, I'll keep a close eye on the AH all day and DE every cheap item I can get |
| 06:10.52 | Tekkub | and keep gems stocked as long as I have ones to cut |
| 06:16.02 | batrick | Would there happen to be anybody in here familiar with Nmap's Script Engine (NSE) and with some familiarity of its internals? |
| 06:26.40 | Thunder_Child | if it was anyone but you batrick we all would be |
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| 06:29.10 | batrick | I'm not sure I get that |
| 06:30.30 | *** topic/#WoWUIDev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 2.4.x ToC: 20400 | #WoWUIDev-commits : A place to watch active development of World of Warcraft addons. Multiple Sites' CIA & JIRA bots reporting | "and left for cheap & dirty!!" - Nechckn |
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| 06:31.46 | batrick | cairenn is |_|_||2|<||\|6 |
| 06:31.53 | batrick | batbot: amirite? |
| 06:31.54 | batbot | batrick, Keep dreaming. |
| 06:31.56 | batrick | sif |
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| 06:34.36 | zenzio | wrking? |
| 06:36.43 | Tekkub | wryyyyyyyyyyyyyyy |
| 06:36.59 | wereHamster | cat on keyboard? |
| 06:37.10 | Tekkub | no, I meant what I said |
| 06:37.37 | wereHamster | wow, that is an intelligent cat, can write english 0.o |
| 06:37.53 | Tekkub | *sigh* |
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| 06:38.26 | Tekkub | Kiff! Unjam the missile! And stop sighing all the time! |
| 06:39.03 | Thunder_Child | stop posting porn Cairenn! |
| 06:39.31 | Cairenn | heh |
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| 06:50.34 | Elkano | Cairenn: ping? |
| 06:56.36 | Cairenn | Elkano: pong |
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| 07:00.11 | Elkano | Cairenn, there seems to be a bug in wowi's post handling |
| 07:00.18 | Cairenn | hmmm? |
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| 07:00.47 | Elkano | when you try to create a paypal button via BB codes the encriptet string will have some extra spaces inserted resulting in a nonfunctional button |
| 07:01.00 | Cairenn | Dolby: ping? ^^ |
| 07:01.42 | Elkano | don't know why that happens, maybe it's trying to wrap long words |
| 07:02.00 | cncfanatics | Elkano: I'd suggest linking to a page on a webspace you control |
| 07:02.06 | cncfanatics | and making that page redirect to your paypal |
| 07:02.49 | Cairenn | so why not just take out the extra spaces? :p |
| 07:03.11 | Cairenn | enough other people have gotten it working |
| 07:04.40 | Elkano | Cairenn, I have it working on my page, too. but it seems to happen nowadays after you post. |
| 07:04.49 | Cairenn | odd |
| 07:04.58 | Elkano | the reason I noticed it was because someone else had asked me how I did it since he didn't succede |
| 07:05.38 | wereHamster | ~fail 'someone else' |
| 07:05.39 | purl | 'someone else', you Fail! |
| 07:05.42 | Cairenn | lol |
| 07:06.00 | Elkano | you can have a look at his page's code here: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=7879 |
| 07:06.09 | Cairenn | well, dolby has been pinged, hopefully he can figure out why it isn't working now, when it did before |
| 07:06.20 | Mikk | Tekkub: now what _I_ want most of all is something sane that turns dusts into essences |
| 07:06.47 | Tekkub | Mikk, *sigh* yes ess seems to sell instantly on my server |
| 07:06.57 | Tekkub | shards go in a day, dust sometimes doesn't move |
| 07:07.13 | Tekkub | but ess is like sold within 15min |
| 07:07.48 | Elkano | hmm... strange... just checked the code on my page and it has spaces, too... but it is working... |
| 07:08.25 | Elkano | no idea what nechck is doing wrong then :/ |
| 07:09.20 | Mikk | Tekkub: i'm BPE for 15g now oO |
| 07:09.23 | Mikk | GPE* |
| 07:09.35 | Elkano | GPE? |
| 07:09.40 | Mikk | greater planar essences |
| 07:09.45 | Tekkub | 10g on my server currently |
| 07:09.53 | Tekkub | watch it go to like 30g tomorrow |
| 07:10.05 | Mikk | mhm |
| 07:10.38 | Mikk | i've been looking at engineering to make guns to DE... but cant turn a profit |
| 07:10.41 | Cairenn | Elkano: not dismissing you, just not sure what the problem is, but hoping that Dolby will |
| 07:11.13 | Elkano | yeah, maybe I should simply relay nechckn to Dolby directly |
| 07:11.22 | Tekkub | engy guns have never been profitable |
| 07:12.50 | Mikk | having said that there's plenty of turds that put their skillup guns up on the AH for tuppence |
| 07:12.56 | Mikk | *snarf* *de* |
| 07:13.35 | Mikk | (why they skillup on guns i do not know but hey...) |
| 07:14.22 | Tekkub | If I remember right, there's a lovely spot near 365 wher ethey're the cheapest leveling option... at like 24g a pop |
| 07:14.23 | zenzio | what do you mean "never profitable"? What about all the 8G Deadly Blunderbusses? |
| 07:14.25 | Tekkub | *cry* |
| 07:14.55 | Tekkub | zenzio, I mean "quiet you" |
| 07:15.55 | Nechckn | Elkano yeah, no idea.. my devilish plan is to hit up the Dolby next =) |
| 07:16.17 | Nechckn | I do appreciate your trying and all.. the darn thing just won't quite get there. |
| 07:16.41 | Elkano | oh, you're online ^^ should have checked voice, too ^^ so ignore the PM |
| 07:17.13 | Nechckn | ah.. okey dokey |
| 07:17.28 | Nechckn | yeah.. running in and out and saw the note above |
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| 07:20.50 | Thunder_Child | http://wowi.pastey.net/89965 |
| 07:21.07 | Thunder_Child | what i want to know, is who keeps their dead sister's remains in a carboard box |
| 07:23.02 | Nechckn | Good lord... especially for 3 years |
| 07:23.06 | Nechckn | the cheap jerk! |
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| 07:23.33 | Thunder_Child | no kidding, you can get a shitty vase for $5 or so |
| 07:25.45 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 07:27.32 | Nechckn | I swear there is like an extra full moon tonight... there are some crazy, super nasty conversations in various channels today. |
| 07:27.41 | Nechckn | **not this one, per se |
| 07:27.51 | Thunder_Child | i know...it's sad it's not in here |
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| 09:08.57 | wereHamster | WebKit/JavaScriptCore/wtf/Threading.h |
| 09:09.14 | wereHamster | wtf |
| 09:10.17 | Elkano | webkit threading files? |
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| 09:28.39 | [Ammo] | you can use threading in javascript with iframe usage, since every iframe runs in its own thread :) |
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| 09:37.56 | cncfanatics | [Ammo]: how would you comunicate reliably between threads ? |
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| 11:23.55 | zenzio | I really wish my coworkers weren't such framework whores. Deciding to build something in Zend Framework 1.0.x that is meant to be part of a page which is already running on Zend 0.9.1 is causing so much grief |
| 11:24.35 | zenzio | "hey, let's go ahead and make this thing, then later we can tell the guy who has to integrate it into the website" |
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| 11:34.06 | kd3 | oh happy day... |
| 11:34.16 | kd3 | "Frost Armor, Ice Armor, Mage Armor, and Molten Armor are no longer Magic effects and cannot be dispelled." |
| 11:34.33 | Kalroth | QQQQQQQQQQQQQQ |
| 11:34.51 | zenzio | what are they then? Self-curse? |
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| 11:35.03 | kd3 | physical I guess |
| 11:35.06 | Kalroth | kd3 hacked them to be physical |
| 11:35.36 | zenzio | I thought buffs were either magic or typeless? |
| 11:36.06 | Kalroth | I'm sure Blizzard can make buffs whatever they want :) |
| 11:36.28 | zenzio | yeah, naturally, but I mean what they display as in the default UI |
| 11:36.52 | zenzio | basically what their tooltip says |
| 11:37.19 | Kalroth | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=44097 |
| 11:38.01 | zenzio | I think you just proved both of our points |
| 11:38.08 | Kalroth | :p |
| 11:38.40 | Kalroth | there's all kinds of schools though |
| 11:38.43 | Kalroth | also physical |
| 11:39.19 | zenzio | aye |
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| 12:05.38 | Drundia | i believe there was a buff or two classified as "curse" |
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| 12:47.42 | zenzio | morning, ms. Peppy |
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| 12:48.10 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, zenzio. Why did the daystar wake up so early today? |
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| 12:48.46 | zenzio | no idea. It doesn't get very dark here this time of year, but I choose not to meddle in its business |
| 12:50.04 | Lopeppeppy | I'm very angry and feel that I was cheated. We've already had the longest day of the year. Give me more dark-time, please k thx. |
| 12:50.17 | Kalroth | Put a bag over your head |
| 12:50.29 | zenzio | I'll be happy to provide you with more dark-time ;-o |
| 12:51.06 | krka | sunlight ftw! |
| 12:51.40 | Kalroth | You're my favorite astronaut, krka |
| 12:54.41 | Lopeppeppy | zenzio, can you ship that north? |
| 12:56.01 | zenzio | I think you're further south than me actually... not quite sure about the latitude |
| 12:56.38 | Lopeppeppy | Me either. Um. Saratoga Springs NY. Go! |
| 13:00.47 | zenzio | I'm at about 58.1538, you're at about 43.0668; so yeah... you're further south |
| 13:01.13 | Lopeppeppy | Damn. Um. I'll ship YOU the sunlights then. |
| 13:01.21 | zenzio | no plix |
| 13:01.23 | Lopeppeppy | I don't want them. They wake the birds up. |
| 13:01.27 | Lopeppeppy | I hate the birds. |
| 13:01.28 | zenzio | come here instead, we can share the darkness |
| 13:01.37 | Lopeppeppy | Awww, that's sweet, but I'm afraid of the dark. |
| 13:01.54 | zenzio | don't worry, I'll never leave your side |
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| 13:04.47 | Lopeppeppy | That could be both good and bad. Hrm. |
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| 13:12.59 | cncfanatics | is it true blizz started to send beta emails ? |
| 13:13.06 | Lopeppeppy | Huh. That would be neat. I love rumors. |
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| 13:17.17 | Dark_Elf | its true |
| 13:17.45 | Lopeppeppy | Neat. |
| 13:19.02 | foxlit | It's true, now enter your password at http://totallyblizzardbetasite.com |
| 13:19.25 | Lopeppeppy | Um. Yeah. |
| 13:20.30 | Elkano | I can neither confirm nor deny the existence of a beta program for WotLK. |
| 13:20.45 | foxlit | motd on most realms denies it at the moment |
| 13:20.57 | Lopeppeppy | Yay, Elkano wins the prize. |
| 13:21.04 | foxlit | Although realms is the wrong word :) |
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| 13:23.04 | Dark_Elf | shoot blizzard is doing a good job with the splash screens hinting at wotlk |
| 13:24.05 | foxlit | In four days, they'll be like "It's WWI, you fools" and we'll be like "qq where's my diablo :( " |
| 13:24.21 | cncfanatics | it's prolly WWI countdown indeed |
| 13:25.01 | Dark_Elf | im actually surprised they patched diablo 2 |
| 13:25.22 | foxlit | When diablo 2 reaches end-of-life |
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| 13:25.42 | Shirik | WWI? |
| 13:25.43 | dylanm | "Glad that's over with huh guys" |
| 13:25.53 | dylanm | Shirik: World Wide Invitational |
| 13:25.56 | foxlit | They should open-source the non-graphical client portion and sell it as "code your own bot, compete with other bots" |
| 13:25.57 | Shirik | ah |
| 13:26.06 | Shirik | lol foxlit |
| 13:26.09 | dylanm | http://eu.blizzard.com/wwi08/ |
| 13:26.24 | Shirik | they should do it without open sourcing |
| 13:26.40 | Shirik | it would give me a reason to play with disassembling again |
| 13:26.43 | foxlit | Wouldn't mind some official protocol/interface spec :) |
| 13:26.49 | foxlit | boo, hiss, that sounds like work |
| 13:26.53 | Shirik | exactly! |
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| 13:27.29 | Jinivus | :O |
| 13:28.06 | cncfanatics | sigh, I'm really behind on wow news |
| 13:28.31 | Shirik | loooool, oops |
| 13:28.54 | Shirik | so I said earlier in the week that payroll gave me my 10 hours overtime but 0 hours regular on my last paycheck and was complaining |
| 13:29.07 | Shirik | they finally got back to it about me, apparently that's what I wrote in the "grand total" column >.> |
| 13:29.14 | Shirik | I win |
| 13:30.15 | foxlit | "Please remember that for security reasons attendees may not bring their own bottled water or liquid." |
| 13:30.28 | foxlit | them terrorists will bring liquid explosives to our convention, oh noes. |
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| 13:39.17 | zenzio | don't dismiss liquids so easily, they're handy for airborne attacks |
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| 13:51.34 | Shirik | time to drive again, pz! |
| 13:53.20 | Lopeppeppy | No driving. No! |
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| 15:41.19 | foxlit | :HookScript mechanic is interesting |
| 15:41.42 | foxlit | Actually wraps the function that's currently in the handler, rather than the handler construction itself |
| 15:41.59 | Fisker- | you cannot stop me |
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| 15:47.55 | AckisWork | ~lart Fisker- |
| 15:47.55 | purl | stamps Fisker- on the forehead with the official Troll marker |
| 15:48.19 | Anaral | Oh my... what did Fisker- do now? |
| 15:48.25 | AckisWork | what didn't he do? |
| 15:48.30 | Anaral | True |
| 15:50.26 | cog|work | my mom |
| 15:54.37 | Fisker- | your mom indeed cog|work |
| 15:55.30 | AckisWork | the last 10 comments from Fisker- in wowace have involved "your mom" in one way or another |
| 15:58.07 | Fisker- | your mother Ackis |
| 15:58.08 | Fisker- | oh wait |
| 15:58.10 | Fisker- | :( |
| 16:00.57 | AckisWork | lol |
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| 16:45.14 | cog|work | anyone know how to get Excel NOT to hide the cell selection when the window is inactive? |
| 16:46.29 | Anaral | I believe it's in tools... let me look. |
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| 16:46.37 | cog|work | 2007 :( |
| 16:47.16 | Anaral | Oh. nm, I am using 2002... I'm in the stoneage. |
| 16:47.35 | cog|work | if you find it i might be able to figure it out though |
| 16:50.18 | wereHamster | cog|work: have you already tried asking clippy? |
| 16:50.28 | cog|work | wereHamster: 2007 |
| 16:50.34 | wereHamster | no clippy? |
| 16:50.37 | cog|work | no clippy |
| 16:54.18 | Anaral | Bah, I can't find it... |
| 16:56.05 | Anaral | A temp solution until you have time to find the right answer, you could highlight the selected cells and then just undo, after you're done... |
| 16:57.04 | cog|work | yeah |
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| 17:01.04 | Anaral | Is it just me or are many wow related sites just not wanting to load today? |
| 17:02.16 | ScytheBlade1 | S4 |
| 17:02.21 | ScytheBlade1 | server load +++++++++++++ |
| 17:05.17 | Anaral | What race is best for Shammies? |
| 17:05.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Draeni |
| 17:05.49 | ScytheBlade1 | =] |
| 17:06.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Only spelled right |
| 17:06.53 | Anaral | Heh |
| 17:06.58 | Kirov | It's nice for mages too |
| 17:07.04 | Kirov | go go +1% hit |
| 17:07.23 | Anaral | Silly WoW is only giving out PvP premades. Bah. |
| 17:09.42 | Anaral | I am amazed I was able to create two premades, no lag, no fuss. And I could probably create the other two now, but really there isn't anything I'd want to test on other classes. |
| 17:11.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Anaral: because the people who want premades are all people who have never played the classes before, and go along thinking "Well I think class X is INCREDIBLY OVERPOWERED, so I'll roll one for free and GET SOME REVENGE" |
| 17:11.06 | ScytheBlade1 | See: most people are retarded |
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| 17:11.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Likewise all they care about is PvP, not PvE. |
| 17:12.18 | Anaral | You'd think for the test realm, Blizz would want to test both PvE and PvP. But meh. |
| 17:12.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Those who want to test the PvE already have characters suitable for doing so |
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| 17:14.05 | foxlit | Suppose I want a purely virtual button for use with bindings |
| 17:14.12 | foxlit | So I'd do something along the lines of |
| 17:14.27 | foxlit | SetBindingClick("ButtonName", "FictionalButton") |
| 17:14.59 | foxlit | And that'd send a "FictionalButton" click to ButtonName when hotkey is pressed |
| 17:15.56 | foxlit | But apparently, I still need a RegisterForClicks on the button, and that only takes real buttons :( |
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| 17:17.28 | durcyn | use a macro |
| 17:17.52 | foxlit | which would do what for me, exactly? |
| 17:18.06 | durcyn | not require a button |
| 17:18.44 | foxlit | as in, widget button or keyboard button? |
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| 17:18.52 | durcyn | widget |
| 17:19.36 | foxlit | Yes, well, the object of the game is to use a widget in the end, so you're disqualified :( |
| 17:19.51 | Kirov | foxlit - RegisterForClicks("AnyUp") ? |
| 17:20.20 | Kirov | button:RegisterForClicks("AnyUp","AnyDown") |
| 17:20.39 | foxlit | As long as there's some Up and some Down, it can receive custom clicks |
| 17:21.00 | foxlit | The trick is that I don't want the click handler to trigger if someone actually really clicks on the button, rather than triggering it using the hotkey |
| 17:21.28 | Kirov | Then have it be a different, and non-shown widget |
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| 17:22.38 | drexhex | Howdy |
| 17:22.40 | cog|work | aye... it doesn't have to be a visible button to work |
| 17:22.43 | foxlit | Can't; original handler checks if it is visible |
| 17:22.59 | cog|work | visible ~= shown |
| 17:23.19 | cog|work | remove all its points, give it a zero size, etc. |
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| 17:23.32 | foxlit | All of those would break behavior |
| 17:23.49 | drexhex | I'm working on adding features to an addon called GankList, which adds the name of a player on the opposing faction to a list if they gank you, and shares it with your guild |
| 17:24.10 | Kirov | foxlit - what exactly are you trying to accomplish? |
| 17:24.12 | foxlit | (it's a pie button - it has to be visible, and you have to have clicked over it's GetRect for it to work) |
| 17:24.35 | cog|work | foxlit: why not just bind to the child button? |
| 17:24.39 | drexhex | I'm trying to get it to add to the array it uses the name of the guild members the player has ganked before, and where the guild member was |
| 17:25.37 | drexhex | Never used lua before, but I have some experience in programming (IT major)... |
| 17:25.43 | foxlit | child of what, exactly? |
| 17:26.01 | cog|work | the pie button doesn't handle its clicks directly... it delegates them to a child secure button that you specify |
| 17:26.12 | cog|work | bind to that/those child(ren) |
| 17:26.13 | drexhex | If someone wants to help me out a little, feel free to pm me |
| 17:26.27 | cog|work | drexhex: http://lua.org/pil |
| 17:26.32 | cog|work | or |
| 17:26.42 | cog|work | ~wowprogramming |
| 17:26.43 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons (http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob) a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 17:26.53 | drexhex | thanks |
| 17:26.53 | foxlit | cog|work: that does not make sense. |
| 17:27.11 | cog|work | foxlit: NO U |
| 17:27.12 | cog|work | :P |
| 17:27.14 | foxlit | You can't bind directly to children without defeating the purpose of using a pie button |
| 17:27.32 | foxlit | It literary picks which one of its children was the one you meant to click based on cursor position |
| 17:27.34 | cog|work | then you still haven't adequately described what you're trying to do |
| 17:27.45 | foxlit | If you bound things directly to child buttons, you'd have to use a binding each |
| 17:27.57 | foxlit | which doesn't preserve any functionality, really |
| 17:29.07 | foxlit | It's relatively simple |
| 17:29.13 | foxlit | To use a pie button, you have to show a pie button |
| 17:29.23 | foxlit | That is typically done when the user holds down some binding |
| 17:29.40 | foxlit | When that binding is released, the pie button handles the click, calling whichever child you selected |
| 17:29.46 | AckisWork | cog|work: will you be at blizzcon to sign copies? :P |
| 17:29.57 | cog|work | AckisWork: barring unforseen circumstances :) |
| 17:30.08 | AckisWork | will you sign it "with love"? |
| 17:30.21 | foxlit | Here's the neat part: you can configure the bindings to use purely virtual buttons, which cannot be replicated by the user in any way |
| 17:30.25 | cog|work | foxlit: no, the binding that shows/hides it doesn't cause the clicking. The mouse click on it while its shown does |
| 17:30.26 | foxlit | So you can limit input to the physical binding |
| 17:31.24 | cog|work | AckisWork: depends on my mood at the time :P |
| 17:31.31 | AckisWork | rofl |
| 17:31.35 | foxlit | cog|work: In my case, it does. |
| 17:31.44 | AckisWork | I guess if I go, I'll have to bring some lipstick :P |
| 17:31.59 | cog|work | as well as the proximity of my wife ;) |
| 17:32.08 | Dashkal | Why am I suddenly scared to go to blizzcon? |
| 17:32.19 | AckisWork | rofl |
| 17:32.25 | AckisWork | she'll understand |
| 17:32.25 | cog|work | Dashkal: not sure... should've happened a long time ago :P |
| 17:32.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Dashkal: because cog is a downright frightening individual. |
| 17:32.39 | AckisWork | "he's a weird guy from irc dear" |
| 17:32.41 | Dashkal | *cackles* |
| 17:32.52 | ScytheBlade1 | haha, truth |
| 17:33.02 | Dashkal | Well, this is the first one I've actually had interest in attending. The previous two I was content to just watch what leaked out |
| 17:33.05 | ScytheBlade1 | I imagine that his wife would be more scared of us than we would be of him |
| 17:33.12 | AckisWork | lol |
| 17:33.22 | Dashkal | But abushing the three of you authors does sound like fun :p |
| 17:33.24 | AckisWork | I'm thinking of attending myself... quite a hefty trip however |
| 17:33.28 | Dashkal | ambushing* |
| 17:33.38 | cog|work | cladhaire won't be there :( |
| 17:33.45 | cladhaire | this is true |
| 17:33.48 | Dashkal | ok, two out of three ain't bad :p |
| 17:33.49 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm one year shy of being able to get a hotel room. So, I don't go. |
| 17:34.18 | foxlit | Wouldn't it come down to tickets by now, AckisWork? |
| 17:34.28 | AckisWork | well it requires me booking a flight, making sure my passport is up to date, etc |
| 17:34.59 | IceGuest_7 | Can we register for blizzcon now? |
| 17:35.07 | cog|work | nope |
| 17:35.10 | Dashkal | any hint on when the date is going to be announced? Hoping not to long after the wwi thing |
| 17:35.28 | foxlit | Hm, Hold down some hotkey combination, click a button while holding it, and the "up" event isn't generated when it is released. |
| 17:36.02 | IceGuest_7 | I was checking almost everyday :p |
| 17:38.10 | Cide | so |
| 17:38.12 | Cide | diablo 3! |
| 17:38.18 | cladhaire | lol |
| 17:38.50 | cog|work | which will be mmo imo |
| 17:39.04 | AckisWork | say mmo imo 10x fast |
| 17:39.07 | AckisWork | I bet you'll giggle |
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| 17:39.30 | cog|work | it's actually a lot easier than you might first think :P |
| 17:39.40 | cog|work | esp if you turn the o i into a dipthong |
| 17:39.51 | Cide | that's cheating though |
| 17:39.56 | Cide | you damned cog |
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| 17:40.23 | Cide | speaking of machine |
| 17:40.27 | Cide | Crazy Machines 2 is awesome |
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| 17:41.01 | Cide | it's basically The Incredible Machine, but more awesome and with better physics (although less nostalgia) |
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| 17:42.20 | Cide | someone ban IceGuest_7 if he dc's again please |
| 17:42.30 | Cide | cog|work: haha, too bad :) |
| 17:42.56 | IceGuest_7 | sorry. has problems with my irc |
| 17:43.07 | IceGuest_7 | was trying to change my nick. |
| 17:43.16 | Cide | try /nick instead of /quit |
| 17:43.55 | Kowski | ty cide |
| 17:44.05 | Cide | amazing what a small part of logic can do huh |
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| 17:44.14 | Cide | s/part/bit/ |
| 17:44.45 | cncfanatics | fuck this |
| 17:44.48 | cncfanatics | going crazy :p |
| 17:45.07 | Cide | go kill yourself |
| 17:45.19 | cog|work | now Cide, everyone was an irc noob once :P |
| 17:45.28 | Cide | I wasn't |
| 17:45.42 | cog|work | i still consider myself one in many respects... ;) |
| 17:45.48 | Cide | I'm just messing around btw :P |
| 17:45.51 | cncfanatics | school calls between 7pm & 8pm if you failed your year |
| 17:45.52 | cncfanatics | I hate it |
| 17:46.08 | Cide | "go kill yourself" was a test of how crazy cncfanatics is/was |
| 17:46.20 | Cide | if you have to worry, you probably did |
| 17:46.21 | cncfanatics | Cide: btw, thanks a lot for helping me with my app |
| 17:46.22 | cncfanatics | I got in :) |
| 17:46.31 | Cide | cool, congrats :) |
| 17:46.47 | AckisWork | i read about some dude killing himself by drowning in a bucket |
| 17:47.19 | Cide | I knew a guy |
| 17:47.23 | Cide | who stole my cloudsong |
| 17:47.26 | Cide | now he's an ex-guy |
| 17:47.47 | AckisWork | lol |
| 17:50.24 | Tekkub | oh sweet server's up |
| 17:50.28 | Tekkub | time to rape the AH |
| 17:51.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Time to throw shards up on the AH at 80g/each |
| 17:51.21 | haste | new season or something? |
| 17:51.28 | Tekkub | something |
| 17:51.36 | ScytheBlade1 | S4 hit US today |
| 17:53.41 | Tekkub | only adaman on AH is 55g/stk... yup the dicks |
| 17:53.52 | Tekkub | well at least I stocked up on gems |
| 17:54.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, I could probably sell a few 500g crimson spinels |
| 17:54.42 | Anaral | Does anyone use BLPConverter 8? |
| 17:55.20 | Tekkub | hrm... think I should buy out all the shards <25g? |
| 17:55.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes. |
| 17:56.24 | Anaral | In the readme it says to add " /p /? " to the end of the target link to properly open it... But I keep being told that it's invalid. |
| 17:56.55 | malreth | good news, i got e-mail from a domain buyer spammer! |
| 17:56.57 | Anaral | I know I can convert by just dropping the blps onto the .exe, but I wouldn't mind seeing options. |
| 17:57.18 | malreth | bad news, he offered me $50 less than he usually does based on forum postings i've read |
| 17:57.30 | malreth | i feel inadequate now |
| 17:57.47 | Sixen | Forums are still down though :( |
| 17:58.18 | End | hmm, according to the LoadOnDemand gmotd, Lua 5.1 is in the expansion! |
| 17:58.22 | End | wow, that's old :P |
| 17:58.42 | End | last person to log on was Iriel, 28 days ago |
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| 17:58.57 | malreth | Lunessa: brother! |
| 17:58.59 | Lunessa | ~thank you. |
| 17:59.00 | purl | bitte, Lunessa |
| 17:59.20 | Lunessa | Malreth my strange, and somewhat photographically inclined brother! |
| 17:59.48 | ScytheBlade1 | ~onjoin #wowuidev Lunessa |
| 17:59.48 | purl | onjoin for lunessa set by scytheblade1 on Fri Jun 20 11:50:00 2008: ... station. |
| 17:59.54 | ScytheBlade1 | You're welcome ;) |
| 18:00.04 | Lunessa | *chuckle* |
| 18:00.09 | zenzelezz | "<malreth> Lunessa: brother!" -- somehow this reminds me of walking towards the Clan recruiter in the starting area of Anarchy Online... "Hello, brother!" |
| 18:00.14 | Lunessa | I didn't know the onjoin commmand. |
| 18:00.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Now you do! |
| 18:00.36 | zenzelezz | ScytheBlade1: you've just opened the gates of onjoin hell |
| 18:00.45 | ScytheBlade1 | zenzelezz: yeah oh well |
| 18:02.40 | malreth | respectfully, i'll refrain from setting onjoins for everyone |
| 18:03.14 | zenzelezz | yeah, only set them for people who don't like them and don't know how to remove them! |
| 18:03.17 | wereHamster | just never leave, problem solved |
| 18:03.58 | malreth | i'm gonna buy some soup now |
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| 18:07.05 | Lunessa | Pho? |
| 18:08.06 | ckknight | Phó |
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| 18:08.16 | Lunessa | so tasty |
| 18:08.53 | Tekkub | Choose Your User ID: |
| 18:08.54 | Tekkub | (Enter a 8-20 letter and number combination, no special characters or spaces.) |
| 18:08.56 | Tekkub | FUCK YOU |
| 18:09.02 | Tekkub | *mumble* |
| 18:09.11 | ckknight | what site? |
| 18:09.19 | Tekkub | a bank |
| 18:09.21 | ckknight | ah |
| 18:09.24 | zenzelezz | "<Tekkub> FUCK YOU" <-- they said "no spaces" |
| 18:09.25 | ckknight | okay |
| 18:09.30 | Tekkub | still, that's on the USERNAME |
| 18:09.36 | ckknight | yea |
| 18:09.39 | ckknight | password I can understand |
| 18:09.47 | ckknight | but username should allow for 3 characters or more, imo |
| 18:09.47 | Tekkub | exactly |
| 18:09.49 | ckknight | for Tem. |
| 18:09.54 | ckknight | cause he's specil |
| 18:09.56 | ckknight | special* |
| 18:10.03 | wereHamster | Tekkub01 |
| 18:10.11 | Tekkub | yea, there's no real need for restrictions on username |
| 18:10.14 | ckknight | Tekkub2000! |
| 18:10.18 | Tekkub | wereHamster, close |
| 18:10.24 | Tekkub | 1701 ^^ |
| 18:10.25 | wereHamster | 0tekkub1 |
| 18:10.29 | wereHamster | 1tekkub1 |
| 18:10.45 | wereHamster | 1tekket1 |
| 18:11.26 | zenzelezz | Anarchy Online let you use numbers at the end of your name, provided you had at least four characters first... so "John1984" was a valid character name o_O |
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| 18:12.41 | evilsin | wow bring back the past... good ol ao |
| 18:14.51 | wereHamster | Tekkub: hey, USERNAME has eight characters :P |
| 18:15.01 | Tekkub | and no numbers |
| 18:15.12 | Cide | TekkubN0U |
| 18:15.35 | wereHamster | US3RNAM3 - I fail at leetspeak |
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| 18:16.12 | [dRaCo] | U53RN4M3 |
| 18:16.23 | malreth | WTF? |
| 18:16.27 | Cide | you win the fail award |
| 18:16.30 | Tekkub | USSRNAM3 |
| 18:16.31 | End | ~nickometer U53RN4M3 |
| 18:16.41 | [dRaCo] | great! |
| 18:16.50 | Cide | ~nickometer [dRaCo] |
| 18:16.54 | Cide | what? |
| 18:16.57 | Kaso | ~nickometer {}+_{@~:?>)(*&*&^%$£"! |
| 18:16.59 | ScytheBlade1 | And there's a good 60 LPS up on the AH |
| 18:17.01 | End | square brackets are lame :P |
| 18:17.11 | ScytheBlade1 | With me buying out an entire set of lower priced ones |
| 18:17.17 | End | ~nickometer [Blah] |
| 18:17.18 | wereHamster | is higher lameness percent better or worse? |
| 18:17.20 | Cide | alternating case + square brackets should give you 10^18 % |
| 18:17.24 | End | maybe the mixed case |
| 18:17.25 | End | yeah |
| 18:17.29 | [dRaCo] | :> |
| 18:17.51 | Kaso | i must admit i never understood the need to surround your nick with square brackets |
| 18:17.59 | End | Could be nick is already taken |
| 18:18.01 | Cide | think inside the box. |
| 18:18.07 | malreth | Kaso: security |
| 18:18.09 | Kaso | lol Cide |
| 18:18.09 | Tekkub | [{>>>Tekkub<<<}] |
| 18:18.10 | Kirov | U53R|\|4M3 |
| 18:18.11 | End | lol |
| 18:18.15 | [dRaCo] | make the guy using draco w/o disappear |
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| 18:18.27 | [dRaCo] | and I'll get rid of the brackets in a second |
| 18:18.27 | Cide | no u |
| 18:18.31 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 18:18.38 | wereHamster | Kirov: 'no special characters or spaces' |
| 18:18.59 | Lunessa | cide NO U!!!11 |
| 18:19.06 | Kirov | wereHamster - bah |
| 18:19.24 | Kirov | the best password in the world |
| 18:19.24 | Kirov | qwerty123 |
| 18:19.26 | Cide | |_|53R|\|4|V|3 |
| 18:19.36 | zenzelezz | you could go with U5UXX0R5 |
| 18:19.52 | malreth | am i in the right channel? |
| 18:19.56 | Cide | no |
| 18:20.03 | malreth | oh, ok |
| 18:20.04 | malreth | sorry |
| 18:20.06 | Cide | this is #childrensplayground |
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| 18:20.08 | wereHamster | [dRaCo]: what about choosing an entirely different nick? |
| 18:20.14 | Cide | you could go for |
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| 18:20.18 | Cide | PHAZORKILLER |
| 18:20.20 | Cide | for example |
| 18:20.25 | Cide | he got scared, see? |
| 18:20.28 | Cide | it's intimidating |
| 18:20.32 | [dRaCo] | wereHamster: yeah. only not. |
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| 18:20.37 | malreth | hey! |
| 18:20.40 | Cide | PHAZORKILLER |
| 18:20.42 | Cide | for example |
| 18:20.43 | malreth | Cide lied to me! |
| 18:20.51 | Cide | malreth |
| 18:20.53 | Cide | you're dead to me |
| 18:20.54 | wereHamster | Kirov: querty only if you have such keyboard, here it would be qwfpgj |
| 18:21.07 | Cide | qwerty |
| 18:21.09 | malreth | Cide: :) |
| 18:21.09 | Cide | you fail at qwerty |
| 18:21.45 | wereHamster | I just happen to use a different keyboard layout, one that actually doesn't slow you down... |
| 18:22.32 | Lunessa | mmmm... keyboard layouyts, phone pads, and other devices designed to make humans go slower... mmmmm. |
| 18:22.56 | wereHamster | qwerty was designed so that no two keys are near each other |
| 18:23.02 | malreth | uh |
| 18:23.13 | malreth | on my qwerty keyboard, q and w are near each other |
| 18:23.21 | wereHamster | it has to do with how the ancient typing machines worked, mechanically |
| 18:23.22 | malreth | along with a and s |
| 18:23.36 | malreth | actually, there are lots of keys near each other |
| 18:24.39 | wereHamster | I mean, no two keys that you'd likely use after each other |
| 18:25.04 | Lunessa | the problem with keyboards on typewriters and telex machines is that the operator could go faster than the physical mechanical parts could move. Operators would cause the machines parts to jam. |
| 18:26.11 | Lunessa | Users who could do 100+ WPM routinely caused the swing arms to lock together. So much fun. |
| 18:27.26 | Anaral | Can XnView convert and display blp files? It's not on their list, but a google search has both blp and conversion highlighted. |
| 18:27.45 | evilsin | Tekkub: why are you lookin for a new username? |
| 18:28.13 | Tekkub | because this retard bank has rules on the username |
| 18:28.36 | Tekkub | "but but... it's more secure!" |
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| 18:29.21 | evilsin | hehe... what suxs with one of my creditcards... the login is linked to card.. so when i had fraud and got a new number i couldnt use my old login |
| 18:30.01 | malreth | none of my banks allow spaces in the password and limit the max length to 20 chars. no special chars allowed either; alphanumeric only |
| 18:30.15 | Tekkub | my normal bank just uses the 4-number PIN you use for the phone teller for online |
| 18:31.09 | Kaso | malreth, why oh god why |
| 18:31.22 | Kirov | Anaral - to my knowledge, XnView by default does not view .blp files, if it does it's probably the older Warcraft 3 spec for blp and not the newer WoW:BC version |
| 18:31.28 | Tekkub | and they do the retarded "enter you username, submit... here's a picture you picked that in some way proves we're the actual site, now enter you password" shit |
| 18:31.48 | Tekkub | which is in no way a protection against someone spoofing their site |
| 18:34.45 | Anaral | Kirov: You wouldn't happen to know how to get winxp to allow the " /p /?" at the end of the target in properties of BLPConverter.exe would you? |
| 18:35.10 | Anaral | Or some other way to access the command line for blpconverter? |
| 18:39.26 | Lunessa | Start Menu > Run > CMD --- CD to directory for BLPConveter.exe then BLPConverter /p ? |
| 18:43.40 | cog|work | ~lart the forums |
| 18:43.40 | purl | beats the forums to within 2.54cm of his life |
| 18:44.25 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 18:44.36 | ScytheBlade1 | My guild master totally just goatse'd our guild forums |
| 18:46.25 | sacarasc | heh |
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| 18:49.11 | Anaral | Lunessa: Do I use '_' for spaces in the directory? |
| 18:49.28 | cog|work | surround with quotes |
| 18:49.29 | Lunessa | No - On XP you can just use the space |
| 18:50.35 | Lunessa | Unless you need a space that isn't to be part of the directory name, or you're using an old app written pre-XP - then you surround the path in " ". |
| 18:51.06 | Anaral | It says C:\Documents' is not recognized... |
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| 18:51.24 | Anaral | Which is why I asked the space question |
| 18:51.26 | cncfanatics | put quotes between ur path |
| 18:51.33 | Anaral | I've tried it with and without quotes. |
| 18:51.43 | Anaral | "C:\Documents and Settings\Sarah\My Documents\Wow Stuff\BLPConverter_8_0\BLPConverter\BLPConverter.exe /p" |
| 18:51.57 | cog|work | the /p shouldn't be in the quotes |
| 18:52.03 | Lunessa | right |
| 18:52.23 | Anaral | Gah, the readme with blpconverter said it was supposed to be... |
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| 18:54.00 | ckknight | Anaral: wrap in quotes |
| 18:55.23 | Anaral | It is wrapped in quotes... Or should it be ""path/.exp"/p" |
| 18:55.44 | cog|work | what's /p supposed to do? |
| 18:55.53 | ScytheBlade1 | "path.exe" /p "file.whatever" |
| 18:55.54 | cog|work | operate on everything in the current directory? |
| 18:55.55 | Anaral | Pause the command line |
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| 18:56.11 | cog|work | otherwise you didn't tell it what files to convert |
| 18:56.12 | Anaral | Otherwise the window just closes. |
| 18:56.33 | cog|work | it's not telepathic ;) |
| 18:59.03 | Lunessa | Neither am I. |
| 18:59.18 | Lunessa | But I'm pretty good a clues. :P |
| 18:59.22 | Anaral | Okay, but the directions that came with the converter say to run this command first so that a window will open when I drag a .blp to the exe to be converted. |
| 19:02.09 | Duman | stupid forums |
| 19:02.38 | Sixen | Srsly |
| 19:02.38 | Sixen | :( |
| 19:02.39 | Anaral | Eureka! I got it! |
| 19:02.56 | cog|work | it's not just the forums :| |
| 19:03.07 | Sixen | Servers are up AFAIK. |
| 19:03.20 | ckknight | wow servers? |
| 19:03.22 | cog|work | the rest of their web servers seem to be having problems too |
| 19:03.31 | Sixen | whole website's down |
| 19:03.31 | Sixen | yeah |
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| 19:03.35 | Sixen | But the blizzard site is up. |
| 19:03.46 | cog|work | intermittently |
| 19:04.32 | Sixen | I've been reading the EU English forums =/ |
| 19:05.04 | zenzelezz | where did peppy go? :-/ |
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| 19:05.19 | cog|work | ~seen lopeppeppy |
| 19:05.22 | purl | lopeppeppy <n=Lopeppep@141.222.29.3> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 5h 12m 2s ago, saying: 'No driving. No!'. |
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| 19:11.06 | Anaral | And of course, now that I can get the command line to open, all the images I try to convert won't... |
| 19:12.39 | Anaral | I keep getting 'incorrect file name. |
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| 19:13.11 | Anaral | nm, found the problem |
| 19:15.07 | cladhaire | so |
| 19:15.09 | cladhaire | my ISP |
| 19:15.15 | cladhaire | chokes my downstream bandwidth |
| 19:15.22 | cladhaire | when i cap my upstream |
| 19:15.25 | cladhaire | which is a whopping 40 KiB |
| 19:17.03 | zenzelezz | what kind of connection? |
| 19:17.38 | Esamynn | cladhaire: that may not be your ISP |
| 19:17.51 | cladhaire | who would it be? |
| 19:17.54 | Esamynn | that could be lack of bandwidth for ACK packets, or are you accounting for that |
| 19:18.05 | cladhaire | well lets put it this way |
| 19:18.15 | cladhaire | I can download at 400 KiB a second without any issues |
| 19:18.22 | cladhaire | but if i upload a file somewhere |
| 19:18.26 | cladhaire | getting 40 KiB upstream |
| 19:18.32 | cladhaire | I get 50 KiB downstream max |
| 19:18.46 | Esamynn | yah, that's probably lack of bandwidth for ACK packets |
| 19:19.09 | cladhaire | i'm suitably network retarded in this aspect |
| 19:19.12 | cladhaire | mind explaining to me? |
| 19:19.48 | Esamynn | for each TCP data packet you receive, you have to acknowledge that you received said packet, with an ACK packet |
| 19:19.53 | cladhaire | aye |
| 19:20.09 | Esamynn | which requires upload bandwidth |
| 19:20.16 | cladhaire | ah |
| 19:22.04 | zenzelezz | our old 4000/400 kbit ADSL would get horrible download speed if I maxed out the upload; but our new cable can handle it just fine |
| 19:22.18 | cladhaire | the issue is really the 40 kb/s upstream limit |
| 19:22.22 | cladhaire | no doubt to stop torrenting |
| 19:22.30 | cladhaire | which i'm sure it does a terrible job at |
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| 19:23.32 | Esamynn | Slackwise: is this ADSL? |
| 19:23.40 | Esamynn | oops, sorry Slackwise typo on my part |
| 19:23.45 | Esamynn | cladhaire: is this ADSL? |
| 19:23.49 | cladhaire | nope |
| 19:23.49 | cladhaire | cable |
| 19:23.56 | Esamynn | interesting |
| 19:24.13 | Esamynn | yah, that's probably what they are attempting, and yah, I'm sure it fails miserably |
| 19:24.39 | cladhaire | and of course i couldn't get the right version wrt54g here |
| 19:24.43 | cladhaire | so i'm stuck with the stock firmware |
| 19:24.46 | cladhaire | where i can't prioritize acks |
| 19:25.13 | cladhaire | i'll make my roommates buy me a 54GL |
| 19:25.16 | cladhaire | and i'll leave them this one |
| 19:25.21 | Esamynn | lol |
| 19:25.56 | Esamynn | you would think that prioitizing of ACKs would be a standard default, but it's not |
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| 19:28.35 | Duman | run some traffic shaping that gives ack packets higher QoS :) |
| 19:29.10 | cladhaire | that's what i'm workign on |
| 19:29.17 | cladhaire | trying to find something that works on mac |
| 19:29.20 | Duman | ahh |
| 19:29.54 | Duman | well, you can probably use some variant of 'tc' -- which is from linux anyway |
| 19:30.00 | Duman | or ipfw might do it |
| 19:30.57 | cladhaire | yeah checking now. |
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| 19:32.29 | cladhaire | any ipfw gurus feel free to chime in :P |
| 19:32.50 | Tekkub | I pee freely what? |
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| 19:33.02 | cladhaire | this is me hating you |
| 19:33.36 | Tekkub | ow stop it |
| 19:36.31 | Anaral | How come some blp files don't have any data once converted? |
| 19:37.24 | cladhaire | such as? |
| 19:37.33 | ZealotOnAStick | ~seen smariot |
| 19:37.33 | purl | smariot <n=smariot@bas3-sudbury98-1168049106.dsl.bell.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #curseforge, 23d 19h 25m ago, saying: 'Zyuu: http://halshop.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/phpw9jvl0pm.jpg'. |
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| 19:39.39 | Anaral | Such as the gossip.blp files. |
| 19:40.08 | Sixen | Forums are still down, QQ. |
| 19:41.38 | Anaral | And the Ability-'abilityname'.blps are only showing half the icon... |
| 19:41.46 | foxlit | Anaral: path to that .blp? |
| 19:41.52 | cladhaire | Anaral: does http://wowprogramming.com/utils/blp2png convert it? |
| 19:41.54 | cladhaire | yeah what he said |
| 19:42.21 | Anaral | C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\Blizzard Interface Art (enUS)\Icons |
| 19:42.25 | foxlit | Shances are it does |
| 19:42.27 | cladhaire | just converted Ability-Backstab without any issue. |
| 19:42.30 | Lunessa | She's using BLPConverter.exe - so I don't know what it's doing. |
| 19:42.32 | cladhaire | as expected |
| 19:42.36 | cladhaire | oh |
| 19:42.39 | cladhaire | use the web version :P |
| 19:42.59 | cladhaire | but i'm in the process of converting and hosting the entire interface data as well |
| 19:43.03 | foxlit | Use http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9011-BLPLook.html tbh |
| 19:43.18 | foxlit | Of course, I like imposing obscure OS requirements on people :) |
| 19:43.30 | cladhaire | hah |
| 19:43.34 | Anaral | lol |
| 19:43.35 | cladhaire | <3 |
| 19:43.39 | cladhaire | i didn't know you had released that |
| 19:43.56 | foxlit | My usernames on most addon sites don't match |
| 19:43.59 | ckknight | <3 foxlit |
| 19:44.03 | foxlit | I really should pester people to rename, but meh :) |
| 19:44.10 | Anaral | Okay only problem with web, I want to convert all of the icons... internet will slow that way down. :( |
| 19:44.46 | cladhaire | Anaral: how about i host the .tgz of all the converted icons for you in a second :P |
| 19:45.25 | Anaral | Lol |
| 19:45.39 | Anaral | No need, I'll use Foxlit's link |
| 19:45.46 | Anaral | Thank you for the offer though. :) |
| 19:45.47 | cladhaire | that just does quicklook |
| 19:45.52 | foxlit | Keep in mind it doesn't actually convert things :) |
| 19:45.55 | cladhaire | so |
| 19:45.56 | cladhaire | :P |
| 19:46.10 | Anaral | Aye, and then I can get the ones i want from the link you gave me, Cladhaire. ;) |
| 19:46.20 | foxlit | I've found that usually you just want to view them |
| 19:46.21 | cladhaire | good enough :P |
| 19:46.51 | Anaral | Aye. And I want to be able to see more than just one on a page at a time. ;) |
| 19:47.14 | cladhaire | i still want someone to write an xml layout -> html converter |
| 19:47.30 | cladhaire | so we can show the frame layous :P |
| 19:47.45 | ScytheBlade1 | That would be excessively painful |
| 19:47.53 | cladhaire | would it really? |
| 19:47.57 | cladhaire | i dont think so |
| 19:47.58 | cladhaire | :P |
| 19:48.01 | ScytheBlade1 | You mean HTML rendering, right? |
| 19:48.19 | cladhaire | yep |
| 19:48.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Forget that |
| 19:48.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Just write a XSL |
| 19:48.40 | cladhaire | no, you write it :P |
| 19:48.49 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm feeling pretty lazy right now |
| 19:49.11 | Anaral | Ugh.. no quicklook for pc? *shakes fist at mac* |
| 19:49.18 | cladhaire | lol |
| 19:49.19 | cladhaire | quicklook is teh win |
| 19:49.59 | ZealotOnAStick | I remember when there was something like that in a version of PC Tools way way back when. |
| 19:50.16 | Anaral | Yeah well, now there isn't. |
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| 19:55.12 | Shirik | ah, so nice to be home |
| 19:56.04 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Shirik |
| 19:56.04 | purl | dumps 42 tons of dirt, manure, and fish heads on Shirik |
| 19:56.08 | Shirik | :( |
| 19:57.04 | Thunder_Child | i cant believe you like the 80+ deg you have |
| 19:57.51 | Shirik | it's amazing |
| 19:57.54 | Shirik | ~weather kdab |
| 19:57.56 | Shirik | storming though atm |
| 19:58.11 | Shirik | 84 = <3 <3 <3 |
| 19:58.14 | Thunder_Child | bah |
| 19:58.25 | Shirik | Weather: A trace; |
| 19:58.28 | Shirik | wtf is that supposed to mean |
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| 20:05.07 | Esamynn | ~weather |
| 20:05.17 | foxlit | ~~ |
| 20:05.18 | purl | Every moment in which I'm called upon is torture. |
| 20:05.18 | Anaral | Oooh, MpqViewer is nice, both blp and wav files. :) |
| 20:05.32 | ScytheBlade1 | ~~~' |
| 20:05.34 | ScytheBlade1 | ~~~ |
| 20:05.35 | purl | I HATE YOU, scytheblade1!!! |
| 20:05.40 | ScytheBlade1 | ~~~~ |
| 20:05.41 | purl | ARGH!!! STOP IT scytheblade1!!! |
| 20:05.54 | ScytheBlade1 | ~~~~~ |
| 20:05.55 | purl | grrrr |
| 20:06.02 | malreth | bot abuse |
| 20:06.02 | ScytheBlade1 | I think that's as far as it goes |
| 20:06.04 | zenzelezz | ~emulate zenzelezz |
| 20:06.05 | purl | OMG STOP TALKIN TO TEH BOT! |
| 20:06.09 | Esamynn | ~~~~~~ |
| 20:06.10 | purl | ACTION takes out a revolver and shoots esamynn in the head three times. |
| 20:06.10 | foxlit | There's actually some API to do previews for arbitrary formats on windows |
| 20:06.13 | foxlit | It's microsoft, though |
| 20:06.18 | Esamynn | ~~~~~~~ |
| 20:06.19 | purl | ACTION lets a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh eat esamynn. |
| 20:06.22 | foxlit | So I'm unlikely to ever find out what they are |
| 20:06.27 | Esamynn | ~~~~~~~~ |
| 20:06.27 | purl | You know, this got old a long time ago. |
| 20:06.35 | zenzelezz | purl is right |
| 20:06.46 | Esamynn | ~~~~~~~~~ |
| 20:06.47 | purl | I'm ignoring you now. |
| 20:07.01 | Esamynn | ~botsnack |
| 20:07.01 | purl | Esamynn: :) |
| 20:07.18 | ANTRat | ~~~~~~~~~~ |
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| 20:08.52 | Esamynn | ~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 20:08.53 | purl | No, really, STOP! |
| 20:08.57 | Anaral | foxlit: I haven't found it either. |
| 20:09.54 | Esamynn | there is one more, who wants to brave purl's wrath? |
| 20:10.05 | Shirik | ~roulette |
| 20:10.06 | purl | ACTION watches shirik pull the trigger: Click! |
| 20:10.26 | ANTRat | ~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 20:10.27 | purl | ~~~~~~~~~~~ are YOU READY?????????? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 20:10.37 | ANTRat | lol |
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| 20:11.06 | Esamynn | ~roulette |
| 20:11.07 | purl | ACTION watches esamynn pull the trigger: BANG! |
| 20:13.07 | foxlit | ~roulette |
| 20:13.08 | purl | ACTION watches foxlit pull the trigger: Click! |
| 20:15.39 | wereHamster | ~roulette |
| 20:15.42 | purl | ACTION watches werehamster pull the trigger: Click! |
| 20:19.26 | foxlit | purl has one interestinng revolver |
| 20:22.00 | Esamynn | it's called Russian Roulette |
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| 20:25.35 | *** topic/#wowuidev is http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 2.4.x ToC: 20400 | #WoWUIDev-commits : A place to watch active development of World of Warcraft addons. Multiple Sites' CIA & JIRA bots reporting | "and left for cheap & dirty!!" - Nechckn |
| 20:25.41 | AckisWork | yay purl! |
| 20:25.43 | ckknight | ~~~~ |
| 20:25.43 | purl | ARGH!!! STOP IT ckknight!!! |
| 20:25.45 | Esamynn | yay purl |
| 20:26.48 | zenzelezz | ~literal roulette |
| 20:26.49 | purl | "roulette" is "<action> watches $who pull the trigger: ( Click! | Click! | Click! | Click! | Click! | BANG!)" |
| 20:27.25 | Esamynn | ~botsnack |
| 20:27.25 | purl | :), Esamynn |
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| 20:34.08 | erikd | does anyone know of a utility that will let me type what to send over a network (and receive what's sent) at a bit or byte level? |
| 20:34.29 | ScytheBlade1 | C? |
| 20:34.33 | Hirsute | heh |
| 20:34.56 | foxlit | telnet? |
| 20:35.13 | erikd | telnet doesn't work so well when you're not using ascii characters |
| 20:35.48 | erikd | maybe something like a network stream hex editor type thing? |
| 20:36.03 | malreth | or a telegraph |
| 20:37.25 | Lunessa | ... http://www.crn.com/software/208800567 - XP support until 2014. |
| 20:37.30 | erikd | you guys have never messed with a new protocol and had to test different send/responses? |
| 20:38.03 | malreth | *snort* no... who would want to do something like that? |
| 20:38.04 | Shirik | I use C to do that |
| 20:38.07 | AckisWork | I wrote a protocol to have a chat client between a PC and itself using system interupts :P |
| 20:38.08 | Shirik | C++ actually |
| 20:38.21 | Shirik | or a scope |
| 20:38.25 | Shirik | logic analyzer to be specific |
| 20:38.34 | ZealotOnAStick | wireshark will work for a packet sniffer/logger, but I'm not sure what to recommend for a raw terminal |
| 20:40.11 | erikd | shirik: yeah, i was hoping to find something so i wouldn't have to write code before i figured it out :) |
| 20:40.22 | Shirik | get a logic analyzer then :) |
| 20:40.28 | Shirik | the new Tektronix one is amazing |
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| 20:48.12 | foxlit | Should get a git plug-in for textmate |
| 20:48.22 | foxlit | commit way too rarely :( |
| 20:48.41 | erikd | eep, that's a little out of my price range for a hobby project :) |
| 20:49.37 | Shirik | erikd :) |
| 20:50.03 | erikd | maybe i'll just finish this doing code as i go and then write that utility for my next project |
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| 21:00.29 | ckknight | foxlit: I use the git plugin for textmate, it's handy |
| 21:00.37 | foxlit | Yeah, I googled |
| 21:00.42 | foxlit | It exists! |
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| 21:01.05 | Falkman|AB | Hey everyone, i have a simple question, how do i make a macro that simply does math |
| 21:01.27 | Falkman|AB | i want to make a 'ding' button and it will show how high leveled my char is opposed to my highest level char |
| 21:01.30 | Lunessa | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/06/24/funny-pictures-yuz-so-fired/ |
| 21:02.05 | Kaso | Falkman|AB, basically you need to use the /script then some lua code |
| 21:02.28 | Lunessa | Falkman|AB: You can do math in Lua in a macro, but you have to supply it the values. |
| 21:02.29 | Falkman|AB | know what the code is? |
| 21:02.45 | Falkman|AB | damn, i program in C, but lua is way different lol |
| 21:02.49 | Kaso | what do you want to say exactly? |
| 21:03.10 | Falkman|AB | Ding! (Now x levels higher then my 2nd highest char) |
| 21:03.17 | Falkman|AB | cause i just passed up my main with another char |
| 21:03.53 | Falkman|AB | so it would simply have to subtract my old level from my new one |
| 21:04.01 | Kaso | its not programatically possible to get the level of other chars on your account (well easily) so you'd have to statically define the level |
| 21:04.05 | Falkman|AB | and my old char's level isnt going to change |
| 21:04.11 | Falkman|AB | so i wont have to have it get the old chars level |
| 21:04.23 | Falkman|AB | i would have a static variable for it |
| 21:04.44 | Falkman|AB | so it would always subtract 46 |
| 21:05.05 | Kaso | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:06.04 | Falkman|AB | sweet |
| 21:06.20 | Falkman|AB | so its like the printf() of c xD using %d and stuff |
| 21:07.20 | Kaso | well string.format is like sprintf(), but im using it as a litteral |
| 21:07.49 | Kaso | you could use "Ding now "..(UnitLevel("player")-46).." etc etc etc" using the conatonation operator |
| 21:09.45 | Kaso | concatenation |
| 21:09.49 | Kaso | i can never spell that |
| 21:11.17 | Falkman|AB | yeh |
| 21:11.18 | Kaso | But yes Falkman|AB, lua is written in pure-c so you see alot of things transfer over. for example opening files is like fileHandle = io.open("filename","a+b"); |
| 21:11.26 | Falkman|AB | ah |
| 21:11.30 | Kaso | well opening a file for ammendment in binary |
| 21:11.37 | Falkman|AB | so its like C vs C++, same code, just different names of functions |
| 21:11.48 | Kaso | hmm no |
| 21:11.51 | Falkman|AB | ofc c++ has more stuff |
| 21:11.57 | Falkman|AB | eh nvm |
| 21:12.01 | Falkman|AB | i get how to do it |
| 21:12.01 | Kaso | but sort of |
| 21:12.04 | Falkman|AB | thats enough to get me started |
| 21:12.11 | Kaso | its like an overlay on C. so the low level stuff sorta pokes through |
| 21:12.12 | Falkman|AB | http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API <--- all i need |
| 21:12.16 | Falkman|AB | it kinda speaks for itself |
| 21:12.25 | Kaso | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html also kinda helps :p |
| 21:12.29 | Falkman|AB | now that i know super basic syntax, it will be fine for me |
| 21:12.29 | Falkman|AB | lol |
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| 21:13.14 | Falkman|AB | thanks Kaso :) |
| 21:13.36 | Kaso | np |
| 21:15.55 | bleeter | damnit I need a stick that I can send down the intatoobs to poke people with 'hey s4 is out where's my lvl 30 mount??!!!11!!11!' :/ |
| 21:18.41 | Shirik | they didn't add that in? |
| 21:19.46 | ScytheBlade1 | We don't have 2.4.3 |
| 21:19.56 | ScytheBlade1 | S4 went in with 2.4.2, but was turned off until maint last night |
| 21:22.15 | Shirik | li23-154 localhost # ./pushwindow.php |
| 21:22.15 | Shirik | bash: ./pushwindow.php: Permission denied |
| 21:22.19 | Shirik | how does this happen when I'm root? |
| 21:22.27 | Lunessa | the BLPLook package for Quicklook = nice. |
| 21:22.29 | ScytheBlade1 | chmod a+x pushwindow.php |
| 21:22.37 | Shirik | the other file doesn't have +x |
| 21:22.44 | ScytheBlade1 | it has +x somewhere |
| 21:22.55 | Shirik | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2639 Jun 24 16:54 dodecline.php |
| 21:23.08 | Shirik | also, ~fail for using letters instead of numbers |
| 21:23.19 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 21:23.20 | ScytheBlade1 | ~failrix |
| 21:23.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Er |
| 21:23.24 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
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| 21:23.31 | Shirik | chmod 744 imo |
| 21:23.31 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm stopping before I get too far behind |
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| 21:29.17 | foxlit | Is anything prefixed with # in a macro an automatic comment? |
| 21:29.46 | ScytheBlade1 | No |
| 21:29.47 | ScytheBlade1 | But -- is |
| 21:29.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Standard lua comment |
| 21:29.55 | foxlit | macro, not lua |
| 21:30.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Indeed |
| 21:30.08 | ScytheBlade1 | -- |
| 21:30.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Works in macros |
| 21:30.48 | foxlit | How would you test? |
| 21:30.54 | ScytheBlade1 | -- /s test |
| 21:30.56 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:31.04 | ScytheBlade1 | It'll just say "test 2" |
| 21:31.59 | foxlit | So you're saying that |
| 21:32.01 | foxlit | # /s test |
| 21:32.05 | foxlit | would have you say "test"? |
| 21:32.11 | ScytheBlade1 | It'd probably error |
| 21:32.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Or rather fail silently |
| 21:32.36 | foxlit | So how do you know -- isn't failing silently? |
| 21:32.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Good point :P |
| 21:33.07 | ScytheBlade1 | I just tried -- in my own macros, and it worked as I wanted it to |
| 21:33.10 | Lunessa | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9027-Spelling.html --- interesting. |
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| 21:34.06 | Shirik | foxlit: In C? |
| 21:34.13 | Shirik | # is the token pasting operator |
| 21:34.21 | Shirik | no wait, # is the stringizing operator |
| 21:34.26 | Shirik | oh, WoW |
| 21:34.26 | foxlit | In wow macros |
| 21:34.27 | Shirik | I fail |
| 21:34.40 | Shirik | yes :P though some comments have special meaning |
| 21:35.11 | Shirik | specifically the #showtooltip comment |
| 21:35.52 | Shirik | also it's not "failing silently" because anything that isn't a command ends up going to the current chat :) |
| 21:36.11 | cog|away | foxlit: the answer to your original question is "yes" |
| 21:36.12 | Shirik | I didn't know that -- works though, that's interesting |
| 21:36.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Works for me |
| 21:36.25 | ScytheBlade1 | It's what I've always used anyway :P |
| 21:36.26 | cog|away | except for the #show___ directives |
| 21:37.31 | Shirik | ~time 1207022400 |
| 21:37.36 | Shirik | hm |
| 21:37.40 | Shirik | that needs to be a feature |
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| 21:45.37 | foxlit | looks like this is going to be a feature-less bugfix release :( |
| 21:49.14 | Lunessa | What were you doing? I was slee[ing. |
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| 21:58.24 | Shirik | wow |
| 21:58.28 | Shirik | pizza hut's new site is horrible |
| 21:58.41 | Shirik | it won't let you order a cheese pizza because "You must select a topping if you want to build your own" |
| 21:59.17 | Tekkub | extra chz |
| 21:59.40 | Tekkub | papa murphy's >> the hut |
| 21:59.48 | Shirik | who? |
| 22:00.06 | Tekkub | that "take and bake" guys |
| 22:00.15 | Tekkub | it's well worth cooking it yourself |
| 22:01.02 | cog|away | Round Table > all chains |
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| 22:05.20 | Funkeh` | anyone got any ideas why calling ReloadUI() would end up in an addon blocked mesage |
| 22:05.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 22:05.31 | ScytheBlade1 | It requires a hardware event |
| 22:05.36 | Lunessa | cog|away: Sadly, only in California. |
| 22:05.44 | cog|away | yeah :( |
| 22:05.44 | foxlit | Something can taint text input |
| 22:05.48 | Shirik | holy crap, you can order pizza by text message now? |
| 22:07.06 | Nechckn | Shirik that is total crap re:ordering like that |
| 22:07.12 | Shirik | ? |
| 22:07.19 | Shirik | I always order the same thing |
| 22:07.29 | Shirik | oh |
| 22:07.32 | Shirik | yeah but get this |
| 22:07.41 | Shirik | now that I forced it to take my cheese pizza by using the old site |
| 22:07.51 | Shirik | I can just text "STD" to pizza hut and they know my order exactly |
| 22:08.06 | Shirik | pizza mia w/cheese, 10x wingstreet wings, 2 liter pepsi |
| 22:08.10 | Shirik | deliver to home |
| 22:08.14 | Nechckn | STD?? |
| 22:08.18 | Shirik | well it's what I named it |
| 22:08.20 | Shirik | standard :P |
| 22:08.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Standard |
| 22:08.23 | Nechckn | Ohhhh |
| 22:08.23 | cog|away | I wouldn't doubt you could get an STD from pizza hut |
| 22:08.26 | Nechckn | hahahha |
| 22:08.26 | Shirik | .... |
| 22:08.28 | Shirik | you guys are sick |
| 22:08.28 | ckknight | Sexually Transmitted Disease ftw? |
| 22:08.41 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 got it :( |
| 22:08.53 | cog|away | i got it too |
| 22:08.54 | Nechckn | it's funny cause I knew that you meant Standard |
| 22:08.56 | cog|away | but it wasn't as funny |
| 22:09.02 | ScytheBlade1 | We all knew what you meant |
| 22:09.07 | ScytheBlade1 | There was never any confusion |
| 22:09.13 | Nechckn | but think what non-geeks would say |
| 22:09.20 | Nechckn | or use instead |
| 22:09.27 | ScytheBlade1 | "usual" |
| 22:09.42 | Nechckn | that was my thought, too |
| 22:10.11 | Nechckn | meh.. never mind.. I thought it was funny... |
| 22:10.22 | Nechckn | what is this Round Table? |
| 22:10.41 | cog|away | except now i can't afford it >< |
| 22:10.51 | Shirik | we're the knights of the round table, we dance whene'r we're able |
| 22:11.00 | Shirik | we do routines and chorus scenes and footwork impeccable |
| 22:11.23 | cog|away | http://roundtablepizza.com imo |
| 22:11.25 | Shirik | we dine well here in camelot we eat ham and jam and spamalot // or something ilke that |
| 22:11.32 | cog|away | it's a "local chain" |
| 22:12.14 | Tekkub | OMG a site that has a non-flash alternative! |
| 22:12.27 | Shirik | unpossible |
| 22:12.30 | Shirik | can lynx view it? |
| 22:12.34 | Tekkub | no |
| 22:12.37 | Shirik | aw |
| 22:13.00 | Nechckn | That looks pretty cool |
| 22:13.34 | cog|away | gourmet veggie with pesto sauce is secks on a crust |
| 22:14.56 | cog|away | the most shocking moment was when a birthday party full of 5- to 10-year-olds passed up cheese & peperoni for it... |
| 22:15.22 | MentalPower | srsly? |
| 22:15.27 | cog|away | no liez |
| 22:15.33 | MentalPower | that *would* be shocking |
| 22:16.04 | cog|away | i'm sure being in california had SOMETHING to do with it, but still... we've got plenty of pizza huts and chuck e cheeses... |
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| 22:22.01 | Lunessa | shouldn't a frame refer to itself as "self" instead of "this" now? |
| 22:22.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Usually, yes |
| 22:22.49 | Shirik | any mysqli buffs: is it legal to bind params/results multiple times on the same query? (Only executed the query once) |
| 22:22.58 | Shirik | actually wait, I execute it several times, sorry |
| 22:23.35 | cog|away | Today's xkcd reaffirms my want for an LED marquee for my rear window... Who needs bumper stickers? |
| 22:23.40 | Thunder_Child | cog|away, not surprised, more than 50% of my cousins 10th grade is vegi's |
| 22:23.46 | cog|away | s/Today's/The most recent/ |
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| 22:27.12 | Sixen | So |
| 22:27.21 | Sixen | Almost positive the splash screen is for WotLK now. |
| 22:27.46 | Sixen | Isn't there a purple mob in WotLK? |
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| 22:28.53 | cog|away | in spite of the Hell Runes? |
| 22:29.04 | Sixen | Well... look at this. |
| 22:29.21 | Sixen | Let me upload it, one sec. |
| 22:29.24 | cog|away | though i have to admit the tiles look a bit like a tuskarr or w/e |
| 22:29.49 | Sixen | yeah! |
| 22:29.52 | Sixen | That's what i'm syaing! |
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| 22:30.28 | Sixen | I put them together. I'm almost positive i've seen it on the WotLK website before, but I can't find it.. |
| 22:30.43 | cog|away | new playable race perhaps? |
| 22:30.50 | ckknight | lol |
| 22:30.53 | ckknight | seriously doubt it |
| 22:31.00 | cog|away | i mean, what's left to announce? |
| 22:31.03 | ckknight | maybe for the next expansion |
| 22:31.07 | Sixen | http://www.sixen.org/splash.bmp |
| 22:31.08 | ckknight | runes on weapons? |
| 22:31.20 | cog|away | =inscription |
| 22:31.21 | Sixen | Those are the 2 tiles that were given. |
| 22:31.30 | cog|away | http://www.sclegacy.com/showthread.php?t=151&goto=newpost |
| 22:31.32 | Sixen | That almost looks exactly like whatever the purple mob from WotLK was that I can't find. |
| 22:32.04 | Sixen | oh what the hell. |
| 22:32.05 | ckknight | http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/2010/puzzleqf5.jpg |
| 22:32.07 | Sixen | They beat me to it :X |
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| 22:32.47 | Sixen | Does 15 = D? |
| 22:32.52 | Sixen | asnd 04 = O? |
| 22:33.25 | cog|away | not by any character set i've heard of... |
| 22:33.31 | ckknight | 15 = O, 04 = D |
| 22:33.45 | cog|work | there we go... |
| 22:34.08 | Sixen | I've got it backwards, yeah. |
| 22:34.10 | Sixen | Roflz. |
| 22:34.38 | Kaso | Seen this hillarous new card to increase signal to noise ratio of your graphics card! http://stupidinter.net/his-iclear.jpg |
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| 22:47.55 | Sixen | w00t, WoWProgramming book just came, =] |
| 22:48.14 | ZealotOnAStick | Mundocani ever hang out in IRC? |
| 22:48.32 | cog|work | ~seen Mundocani |
| 22:48.33 | purl | cog|work: i haven't seen 'mundocani' |
| 22:48.51 | cog|work | Sixen: woot! |
| 22:48.59 | Anaral | ~raffle |
| 22:49.04 | Anaral | bah |
| 22:49.26 | cog|work | Anaral: read every post Cairenn has made about it... |
| 22:49.31 | cog|work | it tells you when it happens :P |
| 22:49.36 | Anaral | Ah |
| 22:49.59 | foxlit | Can I make a <div> size itself (horizontally) based on its contents rather than its container? |
| 22:50.06 | Anaral | But that means I'd have to read WoWI's forums... which currently aren't on my round trip of daily forums yet. |
| 22:50.09 | Cairenn | I draw every Sunday night |
| 22:50.18 | Cairenn | no, just the front page :p |
| 22:50.24 | foxlit | What's the average number of entries, Cairenn? |
| 22:50.54 | Cairenn | we've had 750-ish sign up |
| 22:51.25 | foxlit | Amazing :) |
| 22:52.49 | Anaral | So I take it you keep the 'tickets' for the following week's drawing? |
| 22:52.59 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 22:53.09 | Cairenn | sign up once, your name is in until the end |
| 22:54.03 | Sixen | Damn, the book is huge. |
| 22:54.07 | Anaral | I should have made an account under my gnome's name, she always gets the good drops... Anaral is very unlucky druid. |
| 22:54.08 | Cairenn | yeah, it is |
| 22:54.23 | Sixen | Seems like the "Reference section" is 75% of the book. |
| 22:54.35 | ZealotOnAStick | I'd enter the raffle, because they're fun and all, but Kaelten gave me a copy. |
| 22:55.12 | Sixen | ~lastseen duman |
| 22:55.29 | ZealotOnAStick | my luck I'd win (and then have to do the right thing and let someone else get it) and have blown my winning luck on something pointless. |
| 22:55.29 | Sixen | ~last duman |
| 22:55.31 | Sixen | QQ |
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| 22:55.46 | cog|work | ~seen duman |
| 22:55.47 | purl | duman is currently on #wowuidev (1d 11h 41m 59s). Has said a total of 15 messages. Is idling for 3h 25m 47s, last said: 'or ipfw might do it'. |
| 22:55.51 | Sixen | Rofl. |
| 22:55.54 | Sixen | ~seen sixen |
| 22:55.54 | purl | sixen is currently on #wowuidev (2h 44m 59s). Has said a total of 25 messages. Is idling for 0s, last said: '~seen sixen'. |
| 22:56.00 | Sixen | :X |
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| 22:59.13 | Shirik | poor lady downstairs :( |
| 22:59.27 | Shirik | Before I left for vacation my dishwasher wasn't draining, so I asked them to fix it |
| 22:59.38 | Shirik | I came back and there's a maintenance slip on my desk saying they fixed it, so I wash my dishes |
| 22:59.45 | Shirik | It drains now.... into the apartment downstairs |
| 22:59.55 | cog|work | :\ |
| 22:59.58 | Lunessa | Shirik: On SNAP! |
| 23:00.06 | Anaral | Aww |
| 23:00.14 | Lunessa | ~comfort Shirik |
| 23:00.15 | purl | There, there, Shirik. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 23:00.21 | Sixen | ~commands |
| 23:00.26 | Shirik | hey I don't really care |
| 23:00.31 | Shirik | the lady downstairs isn't too happy though |
| 23:00.34 | Sixen | heh |
| 23:00.44 | Tem | ckknight, one syllable names > * |
| 23:00.48 | Shirik | this is pretty sad though. It started with my dishwasher not working |
| 23:00.50 | Shirik | er |
| 23:00.53 | Shirik | my disposal not working |
| 23:00.53 | ckknight | hehe, Tem |
| 23:01.01 | Shirik | so they replace the disposal and then my dishwasher doesn't drain anymore |
| 23:01.05 | Shirik | so they fix that and now it leaks |
| 23:01.15 | Tem | If you could be just "Cam" you probabl would |
| 23:04.26 | ckknight | Tem: yea, there's issues with people taking my name, it's not unique enough, thus, I settle on ckknight, which has shown itself to be relatively unique |
| 23:04.51 | Tekkub | you just aren't creative enough to be unique |
| 23:05.34 | ckknight | I blame that on my lack of drug use |
| 23:05.57 | Tekkub | or maybe it's too much drug use? hard to tell the diffenece sometimes |
| 23:06.15 | ckknight | truth |
| 23:06.16 | Anaral | Increase your sugar and caffine in take. |
| 23:06.25 | zespri_work | Tekkub, so did you get rich? |
| 23:06.41 | Tekkub | zespri_work, almost all sold out of my gems |
| 23:06.55 | Tekkub | enchanting market's being a bitch though |
| 23:07.21 | zespri_work | why, |
| 23:07.50 | Tekkub | *shrug* not hitting that demand >> supply point the last seasons did |
| 23:08.07 | Tekkub | I'll blame the shatter --> 3 LPS recipe |
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| 23:09.40 | Lunessa | Heh, I should have cranked out a ton of gems on my 'lock last night, but didn't think of it. |
| 23:11.33 | Mikk | 2 lps |
| 23:11.36 | Mikk | not 3 |
| 23:11.44 | Tekkub | still I blame that |
| 23:11.47 | Mikk | but yeah |
| 23:12.05 | Tekkub | cause my ess is all gone |
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| 23:17.35 | Shirik | ?? |
| 23:17.39 | Shirik | Fatal error: Call to undefined method mysqli::bind_param() in /var/www/localhost/pushwindow.php on line 138 |
| 23:17.42 | Shirik | php.net lies! |
| 23:18.02 | Shirik | wait wait, no |
| 23:18.04 | Shirik | ~failrik |
| 23:18.04 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
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| 23:37.37 | foxlit | just another "self-centered-mod" with a developer that thinks it's the only thing you'll ever need or "the best thing since sliced bread" |
| 23:37.41 | foxlit | oh yes, feel the love! |
| 23:37.58 | Kaso | hmm? |
| 23:38.38 | Anaral | foxlit: And this mod would be? |
| 23:39.06 | foxlit | One of mine, that comment is just special :) |
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| 23:39.34 | Kaso | Someone commented that about your mod? |
| 23:39.59 | foxlit | Yes, it's a slightly cut quote. |
| 23:40.47 | Kaso | Which mod, im curious? |
| 23:41.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Is it named "SlicedBread" by chance? |
| 23:41.20 | foxlit | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=9094 |
| 23:41.33 | foxlit | ScytheBlade1: no, but I should do that! :) |
| 23:42.40 | Shirik | in #conspiracy: |
| 23:42.43 | Shirik | (19:33:51) - Join: barney (n=barney@150-172-165-209.unisea.static.gci.net) |
| 23:42.43 | Shirik | (19:34:33) (barney) I'm from the .gov, and I'm here to help... |
| 23:42.43 | Shirik | (19:35:48) (barney) Later dudes... |
| 23:42.43 | Shirik | (19:35:51) - Part: barney (n=barney@150-172-165-209.unisea.static.gci.net) |
| 23:42.47 | Shirik | we get some really strange people.... |
| 23:42.49 | Anaral | Grr, the link doesn't want to open. |
| 23:43.25 | Kaso | what's #conspiracy ? |
| 23:43.32 | foxlit | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9094-OPie.html ? |
| 23:43.35 | Shirik | addon that Cidan and I are (kinda) working on |
| 23:43.42 | foxlit | It's where Shirik plans to take over the world |
| 23:43.45 | Shirik | actually it's currently suspended while we work our lives out :P |
| 23:43.48 | Anaral | Nope |
| 23:43.50 | foxlit | That addon thing is just a cover, look at their release schdule! |
| 23:43.59 | Kaso | Not a channel about conspiricy theories then? |
| 23:44.01 | Kaso | shame |
| 23:44.02 | foxlit | s/hd/hed/ |
| 23:44.04 | ScytheBlade1 | No :) |
| 23:44.25 | Drundia | theories? they are making a conspiracy there, they don't need theories |
| 23:45.48 | Anaral | lol |
| 23:45.58 | Kaso | So, from lua-wow i guess its possible to create a lua binary with libs already embedded within it. How would i start looking about seeing howto do that? |
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| 23:53.17 | Mikk | Kaso: learn C |
| 23:53.26 | Mikk | not being an ass here |
| 23:53.49 | Kaso | Well i sorta know C, ive done small little command line app projects before. But the idea of taking lua is way out of my scope |
| 23:54.03 | Mikk | well.. look at how cog did it |
| 23:54.12 | Mikk | he distributes source with his lua |
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| 23:54.42 | Kaso | the source wasnt with the copy i have, but he's on sourceforge isnt he? i guess itll be on there |
| 23:55.03 | Mikk | hm.. last time i downloaded from wowinterface it had source |
| 23:55.25 | Mikk | but maybe he realized that most people just found the source tree structure confusing and caused him headaches =) |
| 23:55.38 | Kaso | Hah, perhaps indeed |
| 23:55.50 | Kaso | all i have in the zip is the two binaries a few dlls and some txts |
| 23:56.14 | Kaso | ah hes up on luaforge |
| 23:56.16 | Kaso | ofc |
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| 23:59.01 | Thunder_Child | anyone know a good ftp program that works on 64? |
| 23:59.11 | Thunder_Child | vista-64* |
| 23:59.32 | Thunder_Child | thats also free |
| 23:59.52 | Shirik | ftp |
