| 00:00.43 | Cide | that's very interesting |
| 00:01.26 | Gnarfoz | share? |
| 00:02.42 | bleeter | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_evolution&num=1 |
| 00:03.21 | bleeter | tldr: ATI now shipping linux drivers same day as new windows drivers, including drivers on CD in box with the hardware |
| 00:04.32 | Kirov | sweet! Gello updated ItemRack 2 |
| 00:04.32 | Kirov | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6818-ItemRack2.16.html |
| 00:05.11 | bleeter | Gnarfoz: add to that their whole move to open source stuff, and yeah v interesting inveed. wonder what nVidia will do ;) |
| 00:05.44 | Arrowmaster | my itemrack still says 2.12 ingame but i swear i updated it recently |
| 00:05.50 | Arrowmaster | its even got a blank events tab |
| 00:06.58 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: that's probably because gello copied over the same XML for the layout ;p |
| 00:16.17 | Lunessa | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7116600593&sid=1 - feel free to read and laugh at my bad code, then come back and tell me what I did wrong. :P |
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| 00:27.58 | bleeter | oooh, iced tea passed JTCK |
| 00:28.30 | bleeter | man, first time I've looked at /. in ages, and it's got TWO interesting stories lol |
| 00:30.06 | Thunder_Child | sun sure is know for it's free software |
| 00:30.36 | Thunder_Child | known |
| 00:32.58 | Thunder_Child | i wonder what ever happened to it's 3D desktop |
| 00:34.53 | kd3 | o_O; [Scary] From todays "Are we dead yet?" file: Killer electric stingrays are going to invade England because of Global Warming |
| 00:36.35 | kd3 | and changing topics... from the phoenix lander twitter feed: MarsPhoenix: Are you ready to celebrate? Well, get ready: We have ICE!!!!! Yes, ICE, *WATER ICE* on Mars! w00t!!! Best day ever!! |
| 00:37.28 | Dashkal | They confirmed the shiny patch? very cool |
| 00:37.33 | kd3 | http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/ |
| 00:39.10 | memeyou | but does mars water taste better? |
| 00:39.49 | Drundia | once it will be too hot on earth we can move to mars |
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| 00:42.14 | Thunder_Child | if you think water is expensive /now/ just think of how much it will be when it's imported from mars. |
| 00:42.20 | Kaso | Proper water on mars? thats awesome |
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| 00:42.42 | Lunessa | kd3 - YAHOO! |
| 00:42.58 | memeyou | i bet it was really cheese |
| 00:43.12 | Corrodias | it's just such a shame |
| 00:43.24 | memeyou | they dont' show the frames w/ the mice eating it |
| 00:43.25 | Corrodias | they spend millions on a probe, yet they can't afford to equip it with a color camera |
| 00:43.55 | Corrodias | all they had to do was ask. i have this old Olympus camera they could borrow. |
| 00:44.00 | kd3 | that was intentional. there's filters so they can make it stereoscopic color |
| 00:44.25 | Corrodias | "stereoscopic color"? does that even make sense? :o |
| 00:44.36 | kd3 | sure, just like stereoscopic black&white images |
| 00:45.14 | Corrodias | as i recall, stereoscopic means that it's a pair of images from different angles |
| 00:45.24 | MentalPower | aye |
| 00:45.26 | kd3 | there's two cameras on the mast head |
| 00:45.31 | Corrodias | having a lack of color doesn't help you make a color photograph. |
| 00:45.37 | Corrodias | even if you have two of them |
| 00:45.41 | kd3 | 3 shots, r+g+b filters |
| 00:45.51 | Corrodias | then why can't they show us those shots? |
| 00:45.52 | kd3 | or something like that, it's in the twitter feed somewhere |
| 00:46.06 | Corrodias | unless mars -is- completely grey. it could be, i guess. |
| 00:46.11 | kd3 | because b+w takes one shot and gets here faster... |
| 00:46.16 | MentalPower | aye |
| 00:46.17 | Dashkal | that isn't a black and white image. It's a mono-channel image |
| 00:46.27 | MentalPower | they don't do color unless necessary |
| 00:46.30 | Corrodias | and what is mono-channel? |
| 00:46.32 | kd3 | http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/imageCategories_lander.php |
| 00:46.36 | MentalPower | one channel |
| 00:46.37 | Dashkal | only red, only green, or only blue |
| 00:46.47 | MentalPower | aka r or g or b or in this case l (luminance) |
| 00:46.55 | Dashkal | fire up photoshop, load a jpeg, and play with the channel settings and you'll get the idea |
| 00:47.09 | Corrodias | you do realize that a single channel, if that channel is "white", is a greyscale image, don't you? |
| 00:47.10 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:47.32 | Tekkub | I swear, if fries are just a transmission medium for ketchup |
| 00:47.42 | Tekkub | artichokes are butter's version |
| 00:47.55 | Kaso | http://www.survivalring.org/nuclearsurvival/states/nd.jpg |
| 00:47.56 | Dashkal | damnit, you just made me hungry... |
| 00:48.02 | Kaso | Sucks to be North Dakota in a nuclear war |
| 00:48.27 | Tekkub | s/ in a nuclear war// |
| 00:48.39 | Kaso | heh |
| 00:49.49 | Dashkal | Corrodias: Don't be confused that all the images are shown in greyscale. If it really was, say, a red filtered image after taking the other two they can just combine them into full color anyway |
| 00:50.33 | Dashkal | I dunno about you but I find a grayscale image a lot easier on the eyes than one left black->red |
| 00:50.42 | Corrodias | it must be pretty frustrating, working with a probe like that. if a human could look in the trench, and touch it, they could identify within seconds whether there's water. these people have to examine a pair of single-channel images taken days apart. or wait for actual "investigators" to examine them. :( |
| 00:50.57 | MentalPower | your point? |
| 00:51.17 | Dashkal | that would be why they're working on how to get people over there :p |
| 00:51.51 | Corrodias | my point? is that i think it would be frustrating |
| 00:52.09 | MentalPower | nah, you're looking at it from the wrong point of view |
| 00:52.31 | MentalPower | we don't have anything else, this is as close as we can get for now |
| 00:52.36 | Tekkub | and I now discover the drawbacks of having a beard when eating artichokes |
| 00:52.43 | MentalPower | if we had humans in mars, then a probe would be frustrating |
| 00:52.44 | Tekkub | it's like a hairy sponge of butter |
| 00:52.59 | Corrodias | ew |
| 00:53.02 | MentalPower | Tekkub: I did *not* need that mental image, thanks |
| 00:53.03 | Dashkal | and with that mental image, I think I'm gonna go home now :p |
| 00:53.14 | Tekkub | noone hungry anymore? |
| 00:53.19 | MentalPower | nop |
| 00:54.36 | MentalPower | well, not to leave Tekkub with a mental image monopoly... not until my BF gets here :) |
| 00:55.10 | Tekkub | butter's a good lube though, I could put this to good use |
| 00:55.45 | MentalPower | and Tekkub wins again! |
| 00:55.48 | MentalPower | I give up |
| 00:56.31 | kd3 | how about horror stories that mom loves telling me in the line of her work as a nurse midwife? |
| 00:56.40 | kd3 | like how absolutely fucking stupid some teens can be? |
| 00:56.41 | Corrodias | i'd love to hear them! |
| 00:56.46 | MentalPower | that might work |
| 00:57.03 | Tekkub | I don't know if you can top the butterbeard |
| 00:57.23 | kd3 | I'll start off with one that's not all that scary... kids using saran wrap as condoms because they don't want their parents to find out that they've had need to use condoms |
| 00:57.30 | MentalPower | Tekkub: be precise, butterbread artichoke + using butter as lube |
| 00:57.46 | Corrodias | i take it that doesn't work |
| 00:57.50 | kd3 | said girls usually show up a few months later |
| 00:57.50 | MentalPower | I don't think that works |
| 00:57.59 | Tekkub | true, you need the transition from making people hungry, to unhugry, to wanting sex |
| 00:58.34 | MentalPower | plastic wrap is too thin |
| 00:58.37 | Thunder_Child | "17:57.35 +MentalPower: Tekkub: be precise, butterbread artichoke + using butter as lube" i'm sorry i started that sentance from the end |
| 00:59.06 | MentalPower | kd3: next? |
| 00:59.16 | MentalPower | Thunder_Child: you're not helping :P |
| 00:59.26 | Tekkub | Thunder_Child, you have to pick the direction you insert, cause it's gonna hurt either going in or coming out |
| 00:59.29 | Thunder_Child | MentalPower, helping what? |
| 00:59.35 | Tekkub | those lil pointy leaves.. |
| 00:59.55 | Thunder_Child | Tekkub, thanks for the info, and i hope i never know |
| 01:00.01 | kd3 | I'll keep the stupidity line going for a sec, because I agree with mom's desire to strangle these parents... this time from the parental angle. parents going "oh, my girl hasn't had sex" with the girl in the room |
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| 01:00.20 | Tekkub | kd3, you're boring |
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| 01:00.26 | kd3 | now, some of the horror stories |
| 01:00.31 | Tekkub | get to the projectile birthing already |
| 01:00.41 | MentalPower | kd3: its even more stupid when the doctor asks the teen if s/he's had sex with the parent in the room |
| 01:00.54 | Corrodias | well |
| 01:01.02 | kd3 | lol, that was the first one I was going to bring up. she's delivered a few kids where they've bounced coming out |
| 01:01.03 | Corrodias | when they're pregnant, the lie is hard to perpetuate |
| 01:01.18 | MentalPower | Corrodias: point |
| 01:01.39 | Corrodias | but then it's kind of a stupid question to ask, if that's the case, so maybe it's not the case. |
| 01:01.59 | MentalPower | Corrodias: now consider the parents response "oh, my girl hasn't had sex" |
| 01:02.06 | Tekkub | no not dropped kids, I mean the ones that knock over a vase over in the corner |
| 01:02.08 | kd3 | one of the weird ones that sticks out in my mind is getting two for the price of one deliveries when it's a patient she's never seen before |
| 01:02.34 | kd3 | tek; that's what I meant. they came out so fast they bounced off the bed once |
| 01:02.36 | Corrodias | twins are weird? |
| 01:02.42 | kd3 | not if the mom's expecting one |
| 01:02.47 | kd3 | s/not// |
| 01:03.30 | MentalPower | so mom was expecting twins, but midwife was not? |
| 01:03.38 | Lunessa | if I do /run CastigBarFrame:UnregisterAllEvents(); how much trouble am I asking for? |
| 01:03.42 | MentalPower | or neither mom nor midwife were expecting twins? |
| 01:03.46 | kd3 | the latter |
| 01:03.52 | MentalPower | kd3: priceless |
| 01:04.03 | Tekkub | what about the ones that get stuck halfway and the woman has to walk around with a baby head hanging out for a few days until it works itself free? |
| 01:04.05 | MentalPower | Lunessa: castingbar won't work is all |
| 01:04.15 | kd3 | nah, then they just bring out the forceps |
| 01:04.19 | Lunessa | MentalPower: Exactly what I'm looking for. |
| 01:04.21 | Lunessa | Thanks. |
| 01:04.21 | MentalPower | Tekkub: that seems unlikely |
| 01:04.30 | Tekkub | like I said, these stories are boring |
| 01:04.44 | kd3 | there's a bunch of STD horror stories, but those gross me out so I'm trying to not remember them |
| 01:04.56 | MentalPower | Lunessa: you could also do "function CastigBarFrame.Show() end" |
| 01:05.09 | Tekkub | push too hard and your herpes blsters all pop? |
| 01:05.16 | MentalPower | eww... |
| 01:05.22 | Lunessa | I'm lookingfor a no-AddOn way to eliminate it. |
| 01:05.28 | MentalPower | ~lart Tekkub |
| 01:05.28 | purl | takes out a seltzer bottle and sprays Tekkub in the face. You know, one of those old-school seltzer bottles clowns have? Yeah those. Anyway, consider yourself spritzed |
| 01:05.48 | Lunessa | I don't think it's a good idea, I'm just looking for a means to do it. |
| 01:06.10 | Tekkub | looney, I've heard good things about Valtrex, it's no-addon |
| 01:07.13 | Arrowmaster | Lunessa: unregistering the events should be good then |
| 01:07.33 | Lunessa | Tekkub: When I get herpes, I'll call you. |
| 01:07.51 | Tekkub | no, you should call your doctor |
| 01:08.08 | Tekkub | I'll just put butter on it and cover it in suran wrap |
| 01:08.25 | Lunessa | ... kinky. |
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| 01:10.53 | NightHawkTheSane | silly question.. lets say I have a laptop running windows.. assuming i can't see the screen.. is there any easy way to force it to switch to an external monitor? >.> |
| 01:11.57 | Corrodias | possibly. depends on the laptop. |
| 01:11.59 | DARKGuy | hmmm move mouse to upper-right corner, then slightly down to the right, right click -> up arrow -> enter -> control and tab 5 times (assuming its XP) then ... I cant remember xD |
| 01:12.14 | Corrodias | they sometimes have key combinations |
| 01:12.16 | DARKGuy | I think it should be 2-3 tabs then space and enter |
| 01:12.23 | DARKGuy | Ah, that too |
| 01:12.32 | DARKGuy | some have an "Fn" key for function, and some F-key |
| 01:12.32 | NightHawkTheSane | it's a del latitude if that helps >.> |
| 01:12.48 | Corrodias | mine had it clearly marked. something like function+f7. |
| 01:12.56 | Corrodias | the symbol was of a couple of rectangles. |
| 01:12.57 | NightHawkTheSane | wait |
| 01:13.01 | DARKGuy | look at the keyboard, there must be something with a blocky image below some F key |
| 01:13.06 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i just saw that >.> |
| 01:13.09 | DARKGuy | colored with the same colour as some special key |
| 01:13.09 | DARKGuy | hehe |
| 01:13.10 | Thunder_Child | When you start the computer with an external device (such as an external monitor or projector) attached and turned on, the image may appear on either the computer display or the external device. |
| 01:13.10 | Thunder_Child | Press <Fn><F8> to switch the video image between the display only, the external device only, or the display and the external device simultaneously. |
| 01:13.15 | NightHawkTheSane | fn-f7 is crt/lcd. >< |
| 01:13.25 | DARKGuy | its always that key... |
| 01:13.32 | DARKGuy | Is that standard or what |
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| 01:13.40 | NightHawkTheSane | (and i meant f8, not f7) |
| 01:13.44 | DARKGuy | hey Lopeppeppy, feel free to mock NightHawkTheSane :D |
| 01:13.55 | DARKGuy | Oh. |
| 01:14.01 | DARKGuy | oO dunno, it's always some F key |
| 01:14.17 | DARKGuy | Damn, I wish it was that easy for desktop PCs |
| 01:14.35 | Lopeppeppy | I will mock no Sanepeople before their time. |
| 01:14.39 | DARKGuy | Two keys and voilá, PC on your HDTV |
| 01:14.46 | DARKGuy | xD |
| 01:14.59 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: Dell also publishes the key combo for various laptop models on their web page. |
| 01:15.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: i was not aware of that, thanks for the tip. |
| 01:15.10 | DARKGuy | HP too :D |
| 01:15.10 | Lunessa | I get this question often... |
| 01:15.25 | DARKGuy | Me too, at work. |
| 01:15.27 | DARKGuy | This reminds me |
| 01:15.39 | NightHawkTheSane | also, on an.. uh.. related matter.. i hope work doesn't get -TOO- pissed at me for busting this laptop screen. >< |
| 01:15.39 | Lunessa | Usually from people who use their laptops to do presentations all the time, but can't remember... |
| 01:16.08 | DARKGuy | NightHawkTheSane: ouch. |
| 01:16.56 | DARKGuy | You know, there's this currency administrator guy at the company who is like, 50-60 years old, and he's been using Excel for years (at least from a year ago since I arrived to the company) and he comes today and asks how to copy some files from a CD he bought to his computer, and I told him to just copy & paste... |
| 01:17.00 | DARKGuy | "How do I copy paste?" |
| 01:17.04 | DARKGuy | ... WTF!!!!!!! |
| 01:17.17 | Lopeppeppy | I get that all the time, DARKGuy. |
| 01:17.26 | DARKGuy | Lopeppeppy: yeah, me too, so much times it's not even funny xD |
| 01:17.30 | Lopeppeppy | "How do I attach files? How do I take screenshots." |
| 01:17.35 | DARKGuy | <.< it's the third time he's asked me that : |
| 01:17.43 | DARKGuy | lol |
| 01:18.18 | DARKGuy | Yeah but you teach them, and they learn... well, maybe once or twice, but hey, asking it almost everytime you have to do that.... -.-" |
| 01:18.22 | Lopeppeppy | I go over to Blair's office once a month to remind her how to publish a webpage. |
| 01:18.34 | DARKGuy | XD |
| 01:18.40 | DARKGuy | <.< well thats tricky for some |
| 01:18.57 | DARKGuy | I'd ask you on purpose :D |
| 01:19.23 | Lopeppeppy | Blair's a girl who likes boys, she's not just doing it for my company. :) |
| 01:20.15 | Lunessa | Interestingly enough... I'm a boy who likes girls... but girls aren't asking me for tech support because they want a peek at my junk. |
| 01:20.27 | DARKGuy | XD |
| 01:20.43 | DARKGuy | Oh, the sad life for us techies. |
| 01:20.45 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, how do you walk through dorways with such a swealled head |
| 01:21.51 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: Either you missed my joke, or your sense of subtle sarcasm is so well developed that it passes for missing the point. |
| 01:21.54 | Lopeppeppy | I pay for my tech support, fair and square. |
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| 01:23.29 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, suttle...what? |
| 01:24.12 | DARKGuy | lol Thunder_Child |
| 01:24.17 | Lunessa | ~whaleslap Thunder_Child |
| 01:24.20 | purl | ACTION beats Thunder_Child upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 01:24.46 | Thunder_Child | sorry, playing games and typing correctly do not go well together |
| 01:25.14 | DARKGuy | What'cha playin' :D |
| 01:25.19 | Thunder_Child | CSS |
| 01:26.07 | MentalPower | In a WPA/WPA2 encrypted setting, can one authed person snoop on someone else's (also authed) traffic? |
| 01:26.45 | Thunder_Child | they can get the data stream but i assume it's encrypted |
| 01:26.51 | Thunder_Child | oh, wait |
| 01:26.55 | Thunder_Child | i see what you mean |
| 01:27.31 | Corrodias | i really have no idea |
| 01:27.39 | Thunder_Child | i think so |
| 01:27.53 | Lunessa | MentalPower: As in both on the same hub? |
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| 01:27.59 | MentalPower | Lunessa: aye |
| 01:28.09 | MentalPower | same hub, same SSID |
| 01:28.25 | DARKGuy | same password? |
| 01:28.33 | Lunessa | Mmm.. the encryption should be happening at the machine, not the router. |
| 01:28.50 | Thunder_Child | it depends where the snooping is happening |
| 01:28.52 | MentalPower | same passphrase to get into the wireless yes |
| 01:28.53 | Corrodias | the router has to encrypt traffic going back, too |
| 01:28.53 | DARKGuy | Why not? the router would pass the information |
| 01:28.57 | Thunder_Child | the data stream r the router |
| 01:29.00 | Thunder_Child | or* |
| 01:29.07 | DARKGuy | the computers would just decrypt the info. |
| 01:29.38 | DARKGuy | unless the router encrypts the data itself (some can) |
| 01:30.08 | DARKGuy | the connected computers need to have such encryption supported by their network card though |
| 01:30.50 | MentalPower | DARKGuy: both computers are already connected to the router's wireless |
| 01:31.04 | MentalPower | I'm just wondering if computerA can see what computerB is doing |
| 01:31.16 | Lunessa | I seem to recall that machines on the same hub (mmm... in 98,'99) could read each others data streams but tech is much improved now. |
| 01:31.57 | MentalPower | ie, if its the same encryption key used for all clients, or if in the auth phase a diff encryption key is negotiated between each client and the router |
| 01:32.23 | MentalPower | Lunessa: on a switch and an unencrypted wireless that is still true |
| 01:32.26 | DARKGuy | I think they can read the data stream. |
| 01:32.48 | MentalPower | encrypted or not tho? |
| 01:32.52 | DARKGuy | Well, at least I can read my mom and sister's data stream if I try to use Ethereal, since we're all on a wired hub - not wireless, but I assume it could be possible o_o |
| 01:32.53 | Thunder_Child | MentalPower, depends on the type |
| 01:33.17 | MentalPower | cause even if I'm not authed, I can read the datastream of a wireless system (with the proper card) |
| 01:33.25 | Thunder_Child | do you have an auth server? |
| 01:33.34 | MentalPower | no, just personal WPA2 |
| 01:33.36 | DARKGuy | Ah, dunno about what Thunder_Child says - I haven't tinkered with wireless that much, but I'd assume that if all the clients have same encryption or auth data, they can read each other's data stream |
| 01:34.32 | MentalPower | Thunder_Child: but does it actually matter? |
| 01:34.40 | Thunder_Child | if i had 2 wireless devices here iw ould try it out |
| 01:34.46 | MentalPower | me too :P |
| 01:34.50 | MentalPower | but alas only one |
| 01:34.51 | Thunder_Child | "There are two flavors of this protocol: enterprise and personal. Enterprise is meant for use with an IEEE 802.1X authentication server, which distributes different keys to each user. Personal WPA utilizes less scalable "pre-shared key" (PSK) mode, where every allowed computer is given the same passphrase." |
| 01:35.12 | MentalPower | aye |
| 01:35.30 | Thunder_Child | see, i dont know if the keys are chnged up per encryption even if the pw to access the wifi is the same |
| 01:35.40 | MentalPower | still doesn't answer the question, since a diff encryption key could be negotiated even in the personal WPA setting |
| 01:35.42 | nobbe | Has an official date for 2.4.3 been announced? |
| 01:35.59 | Thunder_Child | ya, but if you had an auth server than for sure not |
| 01:36.25 | Anaral | When has Blizz ever announced an official date for any release, aside from BC. |
| 01:36.27 | Legorol | nobbe: they almost never announce official dates for minor patches far in advance |
| 01:36.32 | Legorol | in fact they never really announce any |
| 01:36.59 | MentalPower | nobbe: Soon(tm) |
| 01:37.36 | nobbe | Was considering the possibilty of it comming with s4. |
| 01:37.44 | Thunder_Child | MentalPower, got it |
| 01:37.49 | nobbe | The rogue nerf is nice ;p |
| 01:37.52 | Thunder_Child | "The last, and most important, piece that is mixed into the TKIP key is the base key. Without a way to generate unique base keys, TKIP would solve many of WEP's problems, but not its worst one: the constant reuse of a well-known key by everyone on the wireless LAN. To deal with this, TKIP generates the base key that is mixed into the per-packet key. Each time a wireless station associates to an access point, a new base key is create |
| 01:38.25 | MentalPower | aha! |
| 01:38.30 | MentalPower | so the answer is no |
| 01:38.34 | Anaral | nobbe: Doubtful, since the PTR only went up yesterday and S4 opens on Tuesday. |
| 01:38.36 | Thunder_Child | btw TKIP was renamed WPA |
| 01:38.53 | Thunder_Child | ish |
| 01:39.18 | Tekkub | http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s49/uaronkid/Animated%20Gifs/bjorkdiddy.gif |
| 01:39.24 | MentalPower | nah, TKIP is one of two encryption types used in WPA/WPA2 |
| 01:39.37 | nobbe | Anaral, Yeah i figured it'd be a bit too soon to test stuff even though it'd be nice to start off s4 with some of the changes |
| 01:39.42 | Thunder_Child | "On October 31, 2002, the Wi-Fi Alliance endorsed TKIP under the name Wi-Fi Protected Access (WPA).[1" close enough |
| 01:39.44 | MentalPower | Thunder_Child: link? |
| 01:39.49 | Thunder_Child | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporal_Key_Integrity_Protocol |
| 01:40.02 | MentalPower | the other being AES |
| 01:41.14 | Legorol | Is the PTR up in US? Or was it up at any point in time? |
| 01:41.18 | Legorol | EU one doesn't seem to be up. |
| 01:41.30 | nobbe | http://www.worldofraids.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=174 |
| 01:42.56 | DARKGuy | Yay |
| 01:42.59 | DARKGuy | We can mount druids now |
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| 01:43.15 | Thunder_Child | i dont even want to know |
| 01:43.18 | DARKGuy | haha |
| 01:43.19 | Lopeppeppy | ..... |
| 01:43.50 | DARKGuy | Looks funky, it was about time ally got some nice mount |
| 01:44.03 | DARKGuy | since horde has wolves :( |
| 01:46.22 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-b *!*@217.153.240.27.pentex.pl] by Shirik |
| 01:46.24 | *** topic/#WoWUIDev by Shirik -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 2.4.x ToC: 20400 | #WoWUIDev-commits : A place to watch active development of World of Warcraft addons. Multiple Sites' CIA & JIRA bots reporting | WoW Programming book raffle: http://www.wowinterface.com/raffle.php |
| 01:46.28 | Shirik | uh |
| 01:46.31 | Shirik | what? |
| 01:46.46 | kd3 | your irc client is posessed! |
| 01:46.59 | Shirik | the unban I did |
| 01:47.09 | Shirik | I don't know why it sent the topic command though |
| 01:47.36 | Thunder_Child | that what you get for using the IRC mod of yours |
| 01:47.49 | Shirik | it's awesome |
| 01:48.03 | ScytheBlade1 | If by "awesome" you mean "fail" |
| 01:48.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Sure |
| 01:48.19 | Shirik | any mod that auto-bans zoot is automatically awesome |
| 01:48.20 | ScytheBlade1 | ... but if and only if |
| 01:48.21 | Thunder_Child | i found better |
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| 02:07.19 | Lunessa | brb... installing a new version of Growl |
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| 02:17.09 | Legorol | Can anyone confirm for me whether the US PTR is up, or has ever been up at all? |
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| 02:17.13 | Legorol | Same for EU PTRs. |
| 02:17.23 | Anaral | It has |
| 02:17.30 | Anaral | I played on it this morning. |
| 02:17.38 | Anaral | On US server |
| 02:17.42 | Anaral | pve |
| 02:17.45 | Legorol | Is it currently up? |
| 02:18.25 | Legorol | thanks |
| 02:18.44 | Anaral | Affirmitive |
| 02:19.37 | Tekkub | I'm so pissed they put that bear on the loot cards |
| 02:19.51 | Tekkub | I don't like being forced into paying real world money |
| 02:20.01 | Corrodias | i don't like where WoW is going sometimes |
| 02:20.09 | Tekkub | I wanted a netherdrake-style grind |
| 02:20.14 | Corrodias | loot cards is definitely a part of that |
| 02:20.20 | sacarasc | bear loot card? |
| 02:20.29 | Tekkub | well the retarded useless loot cards I don't care about... |
| 02:20.44 | Tekkub | but when the ONLY way to get a bear mount will be the loots? |
| 02:21.04 | Tekkub | why not put a "really cool" bear on loots and a "boring" one everyone could get |
| 02:21.12 | Corrodias | if it was just $5 for a mount? maybe i would have gone for that, back in the day. when i was not thinking clearly |
| 02:22.39 | nobbe | How does that card stuff work? |
| 02:22.49 | nobbe | ie "how do i get the bear" ;p |
| 02:24.34 | nobbe | It's just random shit you get one in a million from buying those cards? |
| 02:24.35 | Thunder_Child | code, it's all about the codes |
| 02:24.35 | Legorol | Anaral: thanks for checking |
| 02:24.37 | Tekkub | you buy assloads of trading card xpacks to get one |
| 02:24.41 | Anaral | Pay an insane amount of real money on a TCG trading site for a 'loot card' hope the site is legit and the code hasn't been used yet (scratched off), then goto BB and enter the code that hopefully you have scratched. |
| 02:24.43 | Tekkub | or buy one off ebay |
| 02:24.56 | nobbe | Yeah, i guess ebay is the way to go then. ;p |
| 02:25.16 | Anaral | You will probably pay more on Ebay. :p |
| 02:25.27 | Tekkub | the roket mount's like $250, the spectral tiger's out of print so they're like $1500 now |
| 02:26.08 | nobbe | Pretty sure the bear is gonna be rare as hell. |
| 02:27.30 | Anaral | There needs to be a way to figure out what addons use a lib... |
| 02:27.40 | Tekkub | like I said, I don't care much about the cards, I just think it's shitty of them to not have a "normal" version you can get in game, and make the rare loot cards "OMG COOL" versions |
| 02:27.46 | Anaral | Well an easier way then checking the tocs of all my addons. |
| 02:27.49 | Tekkub | Anaral, grep |
| 02:28.07 | Anaral | grep? |
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| 02:28.26 | Tekkub | grep |
| 02:28.50 | Anaral | And what is this grep you type of? |
| 02:29.08 | nobbe | Tekkub, Well if you're lucky you can still get the other bearmount |
| 02:29.14 | nobbe | From ZA |
| 02:29.18 | Tekkub | ZA? no |
| 02:29.44 | nobbe | I know the feeling, not a huge fan of raiding |
| 02:29.51 | Tekkub | I've offered to fuck anyone in my guild, even a female... they're nowhere near getting bear mounts |
| 02:30.24 | Anaral | Heh. |
| 02:30.43 | Thunder_Child | http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/06/19/2054252 |
| 02:30.48 | nobbe | Even a female? ;p Wouldn't be that big a sacrifice imo. |
| 02:31.13 | Anaral | Tekkub: You could pay the top raiding guild on your server to run you through. |
| 02:31.33 | Anaral | Our top guild offers ZA runs for I think 5k. |
| 02:31.44 | Tekkub | hrm.... tempting actually... |
| 02:32.09 | nobbe | What server are you on anyways Tekkub? |
| 02:32.11 | Tekkub | 5k including guarenteed bear mount though? |
| 02:32.16 | Tekkub | Area 52 US |
| 02:32.29 | nobbe | It's not a guaranteed drop |
| 02:32.42 | Anaral | Yes it is |
| 02:32.53 | Tekkub | yes it is |
| 02:32.54 | Anaral | It's the prize for winning the gauntlet |
| 02:33.13 | Anaral | For killing the first four bosses in under 45 minutes. |
| 02:33.15 | nobbe | Oh, thought it just was one outta the items from chest |
| 02:33.25 | Tekkub | it is, last chest |
| 02:33.29 | nobbe | My guild never managed to do it in time :/ |
| 02:33.34 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Zul'Aman_timed_event |
| 02:33.39 | nobbe | Disbanded a few days ago |
| 02:34.05 | Corrodias | ah, my sympathy, nobbe |
| 02:34.17 | nobbe | No big deal |
| 02:34.22 | Anaral | nobbe what server are you on? |
| 02:34.25 | Corrodias | mine didn't disband, but pretty much died within a week, half of the raiders leaving for other guilds |
| 02:34.30 | nobbe | Hard environment for guilds on Sunstrider atm |
| 02:34.38 | nobbe | Sunstrider EU PVP |
| 02:35.06 | nobbe | Think people are taking a break from wow during the summer on all realms |
| 02:35.07 | Corrodias | even thinking about WoW and guilds makes me nauseous. cool! |
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| 02:35.50 | nobbe | Just that realms with lower population will have a harder time filling the gaps and smaller guilds will have their move active players filling the gaps in bigger guilds |
| 02:36.20 | nobbe | And yeah, guilds and guilddrama gets old really fast. |
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| 02:40.00 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm... http://www.fda.gov/oc/opacom/hottopics/tomatoes.html#retailers |
| 02:42.16 | Lunessa | So I can finally get a god-damned tomato on my burger! |
| 02:42.54 | Lopeppeppy | Yuppers! |
| 02:43.15 | Corrodias | now if only i didn't dislike tomatoes mixed with anything else |
| 02:44.31 | NightHawkTheSane | so..you dont like tomato & basil salads? |
| 02:45.34 | Lunessa | Oh man... 45 minutes until I leave for the night... and you guys want to talk about food. /hate/ |
| 02:46.08 | NightHawkTheSane | so.. I shouldn't mention the honey mustard chicken sub I just got at quiznos? |
| 02:46.16 | nobbe | Got 3hours on my nightshift still and getting hungry now >_< |
| 02:46.27 | Corrodias | i don't think i've had those, NightHawkTheSane |
| 02:46.32 | Corrodias | but i bet i'd prefer them without tomatoes |
| 02:46.42 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: I'm going to have to cast Curse of Doom on you. |
| 02:47.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Corrodias: .. which, tomato & basil salad, or the sub? because the former without tomatoes is rather lackluster, honestly. |
| 02:47.26 | NightHawkTheSane | the latter is still quite good. as the quiznos near me is not using tomatoes, due to aforementioned issue. >< |
| 02:47.50 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: <3 |
| 02:48.16 | Lunessa | ... so hungry. |
| 02:48.53 | Corrodias | both, i guess |
| 02:49.01 | nobbe | Hopefully the bakery will be open on my way home, nothing beats fresly baked buns ^_^ |
| 02:49.10 | Lopeppeppy | Sweetheart, you should bring lunch, you know. |
| 02:49.18 | Corrodias | i like tomatoes on their own, at least :/ |
| 02:49.27 | Corrodias | okay, back to my replay of the Wind Waker. take that! |
| 02:49.39 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Dearest, I was distracted by parental units and forgot to pack one. |
| 02:49.55 | NightHawkTheSane | nobbe: I do like freshly baked buns. |
| 02:50.07 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, right, 'rents. *nod* |
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| 02:50.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: if it makes you feel better, i usually only get about one meal a day: dinner. so i know your pain. |
| 02:51.08 | Lunessa | Luckily the 'rents made breakfast, and the mother-unit ironed all my shirts while I was at work yesterday... |
| 02:51.34 | Lopeppeppy | Damn! She was a busy lady. |
| 02:52.47 | Lunessa | She said she was bored. Fine by me if she wants to iron. |
| 02:53.12 | Anaral | The Wow official test realm pages are booched. |
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| 02:53.49 | kd3 | because world+dog wants their free epix |
| 02:54.14 | Lunessa | kd3: I can has free epixx? |
| 02:54.26 | kd3 | if they open up premades, sure |
| 02:54.45 | Lunessa | Yay! Fires are done! Yaaaaaaay! |
| 03:01.06 | nobbe | Phew, thought the poker database died on me but it was just a false alarm... |
| 03:01.22 | nobbe | Not really what i want at this hour |
| 03:01.55 | Lunessa | nobbe: you work for a poker site? |
| 03:02.08 | nobbe | Not really a site, more like a network |
| 03:02.11 | Lunessa | Texas Hold'em and 5-Card draw? |
| 03:02.35 | nobbe | Think it's mainly texas hold'em |
| 03:02.52 | nobbe | We got casinos aswell |
| 03:02.56 | NightHawkTheSane | the macalope amuses me. |
| 03:02.57 | NightHawkTheSane | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13509_3-9973384-20.html |
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| 03:12.29 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: I want the iPhone 3G hardware... but not AT&T. |
| 03:12.55 | Tem | What in the hell? |
| 03:13.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: im sure many do. |
| 03:13.17 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, so do it |
| 03:13.25 | Tem | We just got every spectral patron on us in the middle of fighting BBW |
| 03:13.53 | DARKGuy | Haha |
| 03:13.54 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, it will be $375 for the 8gb and $475 for the 16bg |
| 03:14.01 | Lunessa | AT&T is the devil when it comes to rates and data plans. But... they won't sell you the phone without activation on AT&T right now. I have to find some that fell off the truck. |
| 03:14.12 | Thunder_Child | thats base price + the cost of breaking the contract |
| 03:14.32 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: Yeah. Still too much. |
| 03:14.42 | NightHawkTheSane | I find it hard to imagine they'll only charge 175 for breaking the contract? |
| 03:14.51 | Thunder_Child | yep |
| 03:15.00 | Thunder_Child | thats att wide, not just the iphone |
| 03:17.46 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, or you can get it from another country where it isnt locked in |
| 03:18.13 | Lunessa | Yeah, a buddy of mine moved to Spain recently for a job... I'll probably get him to hook me up. |
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| 03:18.56 | nobbe | They are locked here in Sweden aswell. :-/ |
| 03:21.55 | nobbe | I really hate some of the companys partners, they are such lazy bums... We're supplied the tools for em to handler their customers but still they forward some shit cases to us technicians. |
| 03:24.27 | nobbe | Guess i'm getting abit grumpy at the end of my shift. ;p |
| 03:27.00 | Lopeppeppy | Soon you'll go home and think aggressive thoughts of mint jelly. |
| 03:27.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Note to self: dropping all traffic to and from 127.0.0.1 |
| 03:27.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Is a bad idea |
| 03:27.09 | |Jelly| | don't ping me :P |
| 03:27.27 | Thunder_Child | ~ping |Jelly| |
| 03:27.27 | purl | pong |Jelly| |
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| 03:37.05 | Lunessa | Ok, I'm out of here. Later all. |
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| 03:49.57 | Shirik | are the 2.4.3 notes posted yet? |
| 03:50.03 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 03:50.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Have been for a while |
| 03:52.33 | nobbe | worldofraids has both official and unofficial changes listed i think. |
| 03:52.43 | kd3 | and the wiki |
| 03:53.06 | nobbe | Damn, does those wiki-contribuators never sleep? ;) |
| 03:53.14 | Lopeppeppy | No, kd3 never sleeps. |
| 03:53.21 | kd3 | indeed |
| 03:53.25 | nobbe | What's the secret? |
| 03:53.31 | Lopeppeppy | Rice cakes |
| 03:53.36 | kd3 | there's more caffeine than blood in my veins |
| 03:53.37 | nobbe | I seem to develope a resistance to caffeine |
| 03:54.30 | kd3 | which is why you just drink more. >.>; |
| 03:55.06 | nobbe | Haha! Fair 'nuff. Getting another cup then. :) |
| 03:57.03 | NightHawkTheSane | kd3 has actually moved on to direct caffiene IVs. |
| 03:57.13 | bleeter | i've already filed on bitch about 2.4.3 re: mount changes. Aspect Of the Pack should have the level it's trained at reduced to match |
| 03:57.16 | Lopeppeppy | True story. |
| 03:57.17 | nobbe | Hahaha ;D |
| 03:57.29 | nobbe | Travelform aswell. |
| 03:57.50 | bleeter | travelform ... maybe. 'coz you can instant cast it, it's a li'l different than a mount, methinks |
| 03:57.53 | NightHawkTheSane | bleeter: reduced to what, level 10? |
| 03:58.10 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, pack, not hunter. |
| 03:58.14 | NightHawkTheSane | er, cheetah |
| 03:58.15 | bleeter | NightHawkTheSane: to 30, as per the mount level. currently, it's 40 |
| 03:58.31 | NightHawkTheSane | nevermind me, i was mixing up my aspects :) |
| 03:58.33 | nobbe | True but still bleeter. |
| 03:58.40 | Shirik | kd3: the wiki is rather failing at showing me that |
| 03:58.41 | nobbe | Not that it really matters to me though |
| 03:58.44 | Shirik | which is why I asked the question |
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| 04:00.36 | Shirik | http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_Notes no 2.4.3, http://www.wowwiki.com/Coming_Soon no 2.4.3, http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Coming_Soon no 2.4.3 |
| 04:00.39 | Shirik | at that point I gave up |
| 04:01.07 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 04:01.18 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.google.com/search?q=wow+ptr+patch+notes&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a |
| 04:01.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Bam. |
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| 04:04.54 | kd3 | www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.4.3 |
| 04:05.23 | nobbe | Haris Pilton <3 |
| 04:05.43 | nobbe | I need to start grinding golds again so i can get a few bags |
| 04:06.14 | Dark_Elf | hehe does the seller look like Paris Hilton too? |
| 04:06.26 | kd3 | she's been in game since 2.0 |
| 04:06.44 | Dark_Elf | thats hot! |
| 04:06.52 | nobbe | lol ^.^ |
| 04:08.36 | nobbe | Ah nice, new keybinds for targeting enemy players |
| 04:08.56 | Dark_Elf | im surprised its just 2.4.3 |
| 04:09.22 | Dark_Elf | with all that stuff it should of been 2.5 lol |
| 04:09.45 | nobbe | Nah |
| 04:09.46 | durcyn | i'd imagine it was moved up due to the ChatFrame.lua bugfix |
| 04:09.49 | nobbe | It's not really any big changes |
| 04:09.53 | nobbe | Just alot of small |
| 04:10.32 | Dark_Elf | i would consider level 30 mounts a big change |
| 04:10.44 | nobbe | I wouldn't |
| 04:11.15 | Shirik | too hard ScytheBlade1 |
| 04:12.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: clearly |
| 04:14.35 | Thunder_Child | wtb ~65º weather |
| 04:15.28 | Shirik | ~weather kabe |
| 04:15.39 | Shirik | ah, I was close |
| 04:16.39 | Lopeppeppy | Get a little closer to me I think |
| 04:17.07 | Thunder_Child | ~weather KVTX |
| 04:17.30 | Thunder_Child | ...i'm looking at the page |
| 04:17.48 | Thunder_Child | ~weather kcqt |
| 04:18.04 | Thunder_Child | 78 my ass, it's more like 88 in my room |
| 04:18.33 | Thunder_Child | and 110 in my comp |
| 04:19.49 | Thunder_Child | ~weather bvrc1 |
| 04:19.56 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* |
| 04:20.24 | bleeter | ~weather ymhb |
| 04:20.44 | bleeter | not bad for middle of winter :) |
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| 04:23.51 | limrac | anyone know why I can't get the pather to work correctly it says it can't communicate with server when trying to download patches |
| 04:24.19 | Thunder_Child | firewall? |
| 04:25.19 | limrac | I don't think so because it is able to check for outdated files |
| 04:25.58 | Thunder_Child | is it server side? i always thought not |
| 04:25.59 | Lopeppeppy | What do you mean, check for outdated files? |
| 04:26.13 | Thunder_Child | i think he means the fixer |
| 04:26.31 | Thunder_Child | err..repair |
| 04:27.45 | limrac | when I use the cosmos patcher, I get the list of files that need updated, click continue and then it says requesting changed files, then says error communicating with server |
| 04:28.09 | Thunder_Child | ah, when you say patcher, we think you mean blizzard patcher |
| 04:28.09 | bleeter | oh, cosmos... sounds like a firewall issue. from memory, they use some weird port. |
| 04:28.34 | bleeter | yeah, for a moment there i was all 'only reason patcher won't patch that I can think of is by being naughty with realmlist.wtf' |
| 04:28.42 | bleeter | but cosmos, yeah I think prolly firewall |
| 04:29.03 | limrac | hmm never had issues with it before but I'll check that :D |
| 04:29.06 | Thunder_Child | something got naughty with the realmlist? |
| 04:29.52 | bleeter | limrac: check http://www.wowwiki.com/Cosmos_Patcher#Firewall_Issues |
| 04:35.38 | limrac | no luck :( aww well maybe tomorrow |
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| 04:44.34 | Sargeras | For my first action in this channel, I would just like to say "Dolby is THE MAN!" |
| 04:47.22 | Cairenn | heh, he's on vacation |
| 04:47.35 | Cairenn | which is why Sargeras is feeling brave |
| 04:47.48 | Sargeras | he is? |
| 04:47.52 | Cairenn | yep |
| 04:48.11 | Sargeras | he better bring me something |
| 04:48.29 | Sargeras | He's going to FF with the guild |
| 04:48.39 | Sargeras | and I'm driving up to surprise everyone |
| 04:49.07 | Cairenn | mosquito bites |
| 04:49.21 | Cairenn | he's up at the cabin with his family, on the lake |
| 04:49.24 | Cairenn | so ^^ |
| 04:49.33 | Sargeras | ahhh |
| 04:49.45 | Sargeras | I know FF was the weekend as one of his family yearly excusions |
| 04:49.50 | Sargeras | excursions* |
| 04:49.54 | Cairenn | *nod* |
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| 04:54.37 | Thunder_Child | FF...firefox? |
| 04:54.44 | Cairenn | fan faire |
| 04:54.49 | Cairenn | SOE |
| 04:54.56 | Thunder_Child | ah, thanks |
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| 04:57.21 | Thunder_Child | and why would "Dolby is THE MAN!" result in kicking? |
| 04:57.35 | Sargeras | old old old joke |
| 04:57.36 | Cairenn | long standing inside joke |
| 04:57.40 | Thunder_Child | ok |
| 04:57.51 | Thunder_Child | seemed kinda odd, but now it makes sense |
| 04:57.53 | Sargeras | I've known Dolby almost 10 years now ;p |
| 04:58.10 | Tekkub | Dolby isn't really a man you see... |
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| 04:59.20 | Thunder_Child | no, i dont see...this is IRC |
| 05:03.11 | nobbe | Just one friggin hour left |
| 05:05.28 | nobbe | Btw guys, im getting internal error when trying to install Stancebind pvp edition with the UI manager |
| 05:05.55 | nobbe | Any thoughts? |
| 05:06.25 | Sargeras | Do a barrel roll? |
| 05:06.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Suck less? |
| 05:06.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Kidding, but yh |
| 05:06.59 | ScytheBlade1 | *uh |
| 05:06.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Your description is vauge :) |
| 05:06.59 | Tekkub | no, sucking less in always good advice |
| 05:07.04 | Tekkub | no wait, that's suck harder |
| 05:07.19 | nobbe | Well, i'm using the wowinterface ui manager for linux |
| 05:07.33 | Tekkub | well there's your error |
| 05:07.36 | nobbe | And when i try to install that addon from the favorite-list |
| 05:07.52 | Tekkub | it only works on linux on tuesdays during maint |
| 05:08.02 | ScytheBlade1 | nobbe: you can ignore Tekkub :P |
| 05:08.08 | Cairenn | you need to talk to Shirik, who isn't in channel atm |
| 05:08.18 | Tekkub | you can try, but I might whip out the butterbeard |
| 05:08.59 | nobbe | I'm used to kids Scythe, after all i play wow. |
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| 07:22.06 | batrick | anyone know of how (if possible) I add extra information to a revision's message? |
| 07:22.09 | batrick | (svn) |
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| 07:25.44 | [Ammo] | batrick: you could use the Id keyword |
| 07:25.56 | [Ammo] | batrick: that gives you last edit date time author and revision |
| 07:29.53 | NightHawkTheSane | batrick: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ |
| 07:29.57 | NightHawkTheSane | read the part about svn keywords |
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| 08:06.13 | sylvanaar | can you have sucure public svns? i was trying to grab his code, and it looks like my password isnt recognized - for the read-only SVN. |
| 08:06.53 | sylvanaar | oops |
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| 08:21.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | awesome |
| 08:21.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | a bug in firefox 3 that seems to devour cookies |
| 08:28.10 | Sixen | =o |
| 08:30.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | could be one of my extensions, hrm |
| 08:31.29 | Drundia | cookies are tasty and lovely, every(thing|one) loves to devour them! |
| 08:33.10 | Cairenn | I made you a cookie, but FF eated it |
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| 08:37.17 | Arrowmaster | sure its not the keep until setting? i have mine set to only keep cookies for the session by default |
| 08:43.26 | Sixen | So, did you guys know the WoWProgramming book is on Lua.org as a resource? |
| 08:46.42 | Cairenn | excellent |
| 08:46.50 | Sixen | Agreed. |
| 08:47.10 | Sixen | http://www.lua.org/docs.html - Ctrl+F "Other Books" |
| 08:48.09 | Cairenn | that's great |
| 08:49.42 | Cairenn | and well deserved |
| 08:50.01 | Sixen | Agreed. |
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| 09:08.06 | Hapnintwo | Hi |
| 09:09.07 | Cairenn | hi |
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| 09:57.48 | cncfanatics | yo peeps |
| 10:06.04 | Cairenn | hi cnc |
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| 13:45.05 | Nom- | muaahhaha |
| 13:45.56 | Nom- | Atlassian Fisheye just indexed 42,730 revisions of our code base |
| 13:45.59 | Nom- | took 2 days |
| 13:46.33 | Nom- | well actually, not quite... it's generating search indexes now after gathering all diffs and stuff |
| 13:47.04 | foxlit | Meh, why do people bother encoding addon code |
| 13:48.29 | Pizik | Is that how Carbonites Lua files are unreadable? |
| 13:48.53 | Pizik | (I know thaat is a different case becauuse it is proprietary code) |
| 13:49.17 | foxlit | They're scrambled, but you can get the original back rather easily |
| 13:50.18 | Pizik | ahhh, kk, I was quite suprised when I looked. Didnt expect to be unable to read them ;oS |
| 13:59.01 | clad|away | foxlit: never underestimate the power of the human mind to be capable of utter stuidity |
| 13:59.14 | Lopeppeppy | Seriously, clad|away. |
| 13:59.16 | foxlit | Nx.untilnot=1.251 Nx.elseifor=.000 Nx.whileif=96 Nx.VERSION=Nx.untilnot+Nx.elseifor/1000 |
| 13:59.17 | clad|away | wow, thats a terrible sentence |
| 13:59.17 | foxlit | humor, that |
| 14:13.49 | Dark_Elf | they are locked so they can keep making money |
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| 14:15.18 | Dark_Elf | not sure if Carbonite is even legal to sell considering blizzards eula |
| 14:15.40 | foxlit | There's no point in attempting to secure the distribution that you make freely available |
| 14:15.56 | foxlit | You simply can't, that code has to run somehow. |
| 14:16.08 | Mikk | It's legal to sell addons |
| 14:16.28 | Mikk | Unfortunately for sellers, business is lousy because there's so much free stuff out there |
| 14:16.28 | Dark_Elf | not according to blizzard |
| 14:16.36 | Mikk | Point me to where it says that please |
| 14:16.41 | Dark_Elf | they own the code to wow |
| 14:16.45 | Mikk | Yes they do |
| 14:16.56 | Mikk | They don't own my intellectual property though |
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| 14:17.08 | Dark_Elf | carbonite uses blizzard code so they are selling blizzard code which is illegal |
| 14:17.21 | foxlit | API != code |
| 14:17.25 | Mikk | Indeed |
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| 14:17.28 | Lopeppeppy | What foxlit said |
| 14:17.29 | Mikk | We've been over this maaaaany times before |
| 14:17.43 | Mikk | And what it boils down to is that blizzard doesn't own other people's addons |
| 14:17.51 | Mikk | The same way microsoft doesn't own WoW |
| 14:17.56 | Mikk | Or Intel doesn't own Windows |
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| 14:18.24 | Elkano | what are you talking about? |
| 14:18.46 | Mikk | The common misconception that blizzard owns addons and therefore addons cannot be sold |
| 14:19.01 | Dark_Elf | its missing alot of quests too |
| 14:19.01 | Mikk | Which you'd only claim if you don't know copyright law :o) |
| 14:19.21 | nevcairiel | Blizzard could easily make addons that are being sold illegal |
| 14:19.44 | Mikk | Erm how? |
| 14:19.52 | foxlit | Considering they can't make Glider illegal, it seems rather silly. |
| 14:20.09 | Dark_Elf | the first rogue quest for the nightelves not in the database, the recipe for spider leg cooking not in database |
| 14:20.16 | Mikk | They can invent some bogus clause so that they can terminate accounts of people using X or Y addon, sure |
| 14:20.19 | Mikk | But illegal? Er no |
| 14:20.49 | Mikk | Either way they'd be stupid if they did... for addons, that is. Glider is another matter >.< |
| 14:22.22 | nevcairiel | I guess US copyright laws are silly, its all different here |
| 14:22.58 | ckknight | how is it silly in that regard? |
| 14:23.25 | nevcairiel | not being able to outlaw 3rd party software that essentially hooks into the game |
| 14:24.11 | ckknight | seems like it'd be better to attack from a technical rather than a legal standpoint |
| 14:24.35 | nevcairiel | no technical solution will permanently block stuff like that |
| 14:24.43 | cncfanatics | why would blizz even care if addons are being sold ? |
| 14:24.46 | cncfanatics | its not their problem rly |
| 14:26.37 | ckknight | http://www.newamerica.net/publications/articles/2006/the_return_of_patriarchy <-- interesting |
| 14:27.00 | Mikk | exactly... addons beind sold is in no way a problem for blizzard |
| 14:27.11 | nevcairiel | I would have to look up the specific law here, but i am certain that one of the laws says, that you are not allowed to modify software in any way, to function in a way not intended by the developer |
| 14:28.19 | nevcairiel | maybe thats not part of the big international copyright laws |
| 14:28.20 | nevcairiel | dunno |
| 14:28.25 | Mikk | it certainly is not |
| 14:28.29 | Mikk | in sweden it's even your right to do so |
| 14:28.35 | Mikk | the same way it's your right to tinker with your car |
| 14:28.41 | bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7116601082&sid=1#6 as Aredek says, people don't listen to GMs when asked to remove their interface to fix an issue. If a commercial addon causes GM problems, do Blizz charge support fees to the AddOn authors? (as a vague eg) |
| 14:28.46 | Mikk | or add a porch to your house |
| 14:28.53 | Mikk | you buy it, you do what you want with it |
| 14:29.06 | nevcairiel | you dont buy software |
| 14:29.11 | ckknight | hrm, what would be the maximum possible rep one could get off a quest turnin? |
| 14:29.13 | nevcairiel | you buy the media its on |
| 14:29.17 | nevcairiel | and you buy the right to use it |
| 14:29.35 | nevcairiel | ckknight: some quests give 8k and more |
| 14:29.41 | nevcairiel | ckknight: caverns of time, for example |
| 14:29.44 | Mikk | it's no different from music |
| 14:29.48 | ckknight | I see one with 42k, nevcairiel |
| 14:29.53 | ckknight | that seems to be an egregious amount |
| 14:29.53 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 14:30.05 | nevcairiel | oh yeah |
| 14:30.07 | nevcairiel | netherwing |
| 14:30.09 | nevcairiel | hated to neutral |
| 14:30.12 | ckknight | hrm |
| 14:30.25 | Mikk | i.e. i have the right to make a copy of my music so i can listen to it in the house and in the car... and i have the right to remix it to my hearts' liking (for my own listening) |
| 14:30.47 | nevcairiel | i even have the right to give copys to my personal friends |
| 14:30.51 | Mikk | same |
| 14:30.55 | nevcairiel | as long as i dont break a copy protection doing so |
| 14:31.29 | nevcairiel | but software is certainly different, i doubt anyone ever tried to challenge the EULA in court |
| 14:31.32 | Mikk | "oh, i just took the audio output from my cd and plugged it into my tape recorder and pressed Rec..." |
| 14:31.47 | nevcairiel | its a grey zone still |
| 14:31.51 | Mikk | actually, no software company has ever tried to DEFEND an eula in court |
| 14:31.56 | nevcairiel | or that :P |
| 14:31.56 | Mikk | they don't really want to |
| 14:32.10 | bleeter | music copying varies depending on jurisdiction... .au used to have private copying as legal, but not anymore |
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| 14:33.05 | nevcairiel | same |
| 14:33.12 | bleeter | they removed that in .au in the early 80's |
| 14:33.18 | nevcairiel | on media, on hardware to copy stuff |
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| 14:34.30 | Mikk | either way.... an EULA is one thing |
| 14:34.37 | Mikk | TOS for a service is another thing entirely |
| 14:34.42 | nevcairiel | In theory i even have to pay taxes on _every_ tv or radio i own, but certainly no one pays for all =P |
| 14:34.46 | Mikk | blizzard can put forth whatever ridiculous terms they like in the TOS |
| 14:34.53 | bleeter | that was the same time they allowed aussie s/w authors to do stuff like totatlly reverse engineer and decompile product to get their program to work with it and the publisher wouldn't have a hope of getting back at them |
| 14:34.54 | Mikk | and terminate accounts right and left |
| 14:35.19 | Mikk | bleeter: which is 100% right, imnsho |
| 14:35.29 | nevcairiel | bleeter: thats allowed here too, but only for that same cause. for every other intend its illegal |
| 14:36.23 | bleeter | on the subject of reverse engineering code and making $$ from it, did Blizz make a ruling yet on Magelo Sync? |
| 14:36.58 | nevcairiel | I didnt see one |
| 14:37.10 | nevcairiel | And i still wonder what magelo offers, that a ingame profiler doesnt get you |
| 14:37.12 | nevcairiel | *shrug |
| 14:37.24 | foxlit | convenience, probably |
| 14:37.42 | foxlit | that whole log-out alt-tab click-save process is nasty :) |
| 14:37.58 | nevcairiel | a tool could easily be notified if wow closes |
| 14:38.00 | nevcairiel | and update |
| 14:38.22 | foxlit | You may want to update at other times than wow closing |
| 14:38.44 | bleeter | meh, just /console reloadui when in a safe position, check the mtime of files in WTF, done |
| 14:38.59 | nevcairiel | what do you care about your online profile while you are playing o.O |
| 14:39.03 | foxlit | which is harder than "click" :) |
| 14:39.07 | amro | exactly nevcairiel |
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| 14:39.26 | foxlit | I don't subscribe to the philosophy of telling users "hey, you shouldn't want to do that" |
| 14:39.42 | nevcairiel | I do |
| 14:39.43 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 14:39.55 | bleeter | i don't at all, just find it intriguing what their 'ruling' will be on that their code can be reverse engineered, their models used, etc., in a $$ |
| 14:40.14 | foxlit | wait for it to get popular |
| 14:40.17 | foxlit | sue for $$$ later |
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| 14:40.47 | Kraps | hey everyone, which one is better? DamageMeters or DPSMeter |
| 14:41.10 | [Ammo] | depends on what you're looking for |
| 14:41.16 | [Ammo] | DPSMeter is probably only recording dps |
| 14:41.21 | [Ammo] | damagemeter can record just about anything |
| 14:42.56 | Kraps | ok thanks |
| 14:43.17 | amro | foxlit: I don't either, but I don't understand what they're really offering. is it just a profile? |
| 14:43.37 | foxlit | amro: I'm in the same boat, really, so can't help you there |
| 14:44.45 | Lukian | If you want a lightweight "damagemeter" try violation, damagemeters, swstats and recount are bulkier but offer more err.. coverage. |
| 14:44.48 | foxlit | Nor would I want to run a third-party binary application alongside WoW, even if it was free :/ |
| 14:45.21 | bleeter | foxlit: I'd only do that if it were open source and I could compile it myself. I'd still be real hesitant even in that situation. |
| 14:46.29 | amro | bleeter: yes it would be tricky, with all the ingenious entries in the underhanded c contest |
| 14:47.13 | bleeter | tbh, I can think of only one thing I'd like to do with intercepting the game's network - and out of world realm monitor. hate leaving a realm to go check on another only to discover it's been down for 20 mins, or has a 30 min queue |
| 14:47.19 | bleeter | *and out of.. |
| 14:48.02 | bleeter | but it's such a minor inconvenience.. meh, who'd be bothered hehe |
| 14:48.07 | Funkeh` | any non afk wowi mods around? |
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| 14:52.50 | Seerah | funky: ? |
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| 14:54.20 | alestane | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7116418205&sid=1 Do you think this guy actually figured something out, or is he pretending he did to jerk peoples' chains? |
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| 14:55.07 | Shirik | hi Funkeh` |
| 14:55.22 | Shirik | sorry, had a meeting this morning :) |
| 14:55.25 | Funkeh` | Shirik, you're too slow ! thanks anyway |
| 14:55.32 | Shirik | :( |
| 14:56.12 | Seerah | sorry, shirik |
| 14:56.18 | Seerah | funky's mine |
| 14:56.18 | Lopeppeppy | Jerking chains, or it doesn't work like he thinks it does. |
| 14:56.39 | Funkeh` | :o |
| 14:56.54 | Shirik | at least I spell his name right :P |
| 14:56.57 | Shirik | ` and everything |
| 14:57.10 | durcyn | you cheated, tab completion doesn't count! |
| 14:57.20 | Shirik | how do you know I tab complete? |
| 14:57.59 | bleeter | 'sif |
| 14:58.14 | amro | is it still tab completion if you bind it to another key? |
| 14:58.23 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 14:58.38 | Pizik | Thats almost zen ;o) |
| 14:58.41 | Funkeh` | it's one of those unwritten rules |
| 14:58.54 | Seerah | Maybe it's a pet name? Like Indie |
| 14:58.54 | Seerah | where is Indie anyway?... |
| 14:58.54 | Seerah | ~seen Industrial |
| 14:59.05 | purl | industrial <n=Industri@194.145.194.227> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 8d 22h 56m 21s ago, saying: 'Amirite Ellipsis '. |
| 14:59.06 | Funkeh` | you just stick to it and never question it |
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| 14:59.10 | Seerah | *gasp!* |
| 14:59.15 | Seerah | where's purl?!?!? |
| 14:59.28 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 15:00.02 | Shirik | Seerah? |
| 15:00.21 | Seerah | ty purl |
| 15:00.30 | Seerah | yes, Shirik? |
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| 15:01.14 | Shirik | 10:59 <@Seerah> where's purl?!?!? |
| 15:01.37 | Seerah | yeah, I saw her. She's being slow today.... Haven't gotten my "you're welcome" yet either |
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| 15:01.50 | Seerah | I think she recognizes ty..... |
| 15:02.06 | Shirik | uh |
| 15:02.10 | Funkeh` | i'm feeling that seerah has some latency |
| 15:02.13 | Funkeh` | or I'm confused |
| 15:02.19 | Shirik | yeah |
| 15:02.25 | Seerah | oh |
| 15:03.16 | Shirik | boo, Seerah's client doesn't respond to CTCP/PING |
| 15:03.50 | Funkeh` | it does |
| 15:03.53 | Funkeh` | just takes 30min |
| 15:03.56 | Funkeh` | :D |
| 15:03.56 | Shirik | lol |
| 15:04.04 | Shirik | nah, she responded to VERSION |
| 15:04.13 | Seerah | everyone's pinging me now :P |
| 15:04.16 | Shirik | lol |
| 15:04.17 | MentalPower|ZzZz | [11:02:54][INFO]Ping reply from Seerah in 0.8 seconds. |
| 15:04.19 | MentalPower|ZzZz | [11:03:02]===CTCP version reply âPurple IRCâ from Seerah |
| 15:04.26 | Shirik | hm |
| 15:04.26 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 15:04.28 | bleeter | VERSION me then! :P |
| 15:04.29 | Shirik | maybe it's irssi screwing up then |
| 15:04.34 | bleeter | bah, Purple.. what a PoS |
| 15:05.02 | MentalPower | eww... CTCP version reply âmIRC on C= Vic20â from bleeter |
| 15:05.13 | Funkeh` | wtf? |
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| 15:06.37 | Shirik | 11:06 CTCP VERSION reply from Shirik: irssi v0.8.12 - running on Linux i686 |
| 15:06.38 | Shirik | rawr |
| 15:06.41 | MentalPower | theres a purl command that will ctcp version the channel, but I think only timriker (or at the most a channel op) can do it |
| 15:08.24 | Funkeh` | ouch? |
| 15:08.29 | clad|away | lol |
| 15:08.30 | Funkeh` | i feel violated |
| 15:08.34 | clad|away | you should :P |
| 15:09.02 | bleeter | Shirik: put this in yer settings section of yer ~/.irssi/config -> "irc/core" = { ctcp_version_reply = "mIRC on ENIAC"; }; |
| 15:09.19 | ZealotOnAStick | No. |
| 15:09.25 | ZealotOnAStick | Put an MD5 of that in. |
| 15:09.30 | Funkeh` | full stop DEMANDS respect |
| 15:10.25 | Shirik | lmao bleeter |
| 15:10.37 | clad|away | purl never responded to me with the results like she was supposed to =/ |
| 15:10.46 | Shirik | haha |
| 15:10.54 | bleeter | cuz u smell funny |
| 15:11.56 | Funkeh` | haha my auto replace file is 325 lines long |
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| 15:12.21 | Funkeh` | NAME since CMD since |
| 15:12.24 | Funkeh` | must spell right ! |
| 15:12.39 | Funkeh` | NAME since actually |
| 15:12.47 | Funkeh` | oh f off it's replacing it |
| 15:12.55 | Funkeh` | sin c |
| 15:13.02 | bleeter | hur hur |
| 15:13.32 | Shirik | sinc? |
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| 15:13.40 | Shirik | sinc functions are fun |
| 15:13.49 | Shirik | and by fun I mean THE ONLY REASON I DIDN'T HIT HONOR ROLL LAST SEMESTER |
| 15:14.11 | Seerah | lol |
| 15:14.16 | Funkeh` | my shoulders is availabe if you're feeling sad |
| 15:14.26 | Funkeh` | um, available |
| 15:15.25 | Lopeppeppy | Mine are softer! /preens |
| 15:15.40 | Funkeh` | soft bones? |
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| 15:15.43 | clad|away | ƮɹoM |
| 15:15.49 | Funkeh` | thanks clad|away |
| 15:15.52 | clad|away | yw! |
| 15:16.03 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 15:16.09 | lua_bot | zomg boobs! |
| 15:16.31 | bleeter | gnight all |
| 15:16.44 | Funkeh` | nn |
| 15:16.55 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah. Soft bones. Sure. |
| 15:17.06 | Seerah | ladies have extra padding |
| 15:18.01 | Funkeh` | lol |
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| 15:18.31 | Funkeh` | yeah that's why they are so sensitive, all that padding covering up their emotions n all |
| 15:18.41 | Lopeppeppy | You wish. |
| 15:19.07 | Funkeh` | not really, maybe a little so they don't get hysteric over silly things |
| 15:19.56 | Lopeppeppy | Wow, this stereotype box just got small. |
| 15:19.56 | Seerah | issues with the gf? :P |
| 15:20.02 | Lopeppeppy | Ya think? |
| 15:21.21 | Lopeppeppy | TTFN! |
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| 15:21.35 | Funkeh` | no i just lost count of how many times i see seerah looking in the mirror and have to tell her shes beautiful as she is |
| 15:22.04 | Seerah | *sniff* |
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| 15:23.57 | cog|work | conversation reminds me of http://wowuidev.pastey.net/89775 |
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| 15:25.37 | Funkeh` | oh thats briliant |
| 15:26.05 | cog|work | and s/sports/wow/ if it'll fit better for you :P |
| 15:26.47 | Cide | 6 is hilarious |
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| 15:28.06 | Seerah | hehe, cog |
| 15:31.45 | Funkeh` | # 23. If we ask what is wrong and you say "nothing," we will act like nothing's wrong. |
| 15:31.45 | Funkeh` | 80 We know you are lying, but it is just not worth the hassle. |
| 15:31.47 | Funkeh` | ^ |
| 15:32.36 | Seerah | hubby asks about 3-5 times (depending on his patience) |
| 15:32.44 | Seerah | even when nothing really is wrong :P |
| 15:33.21 | cog|work | that's cause we can't tell when you're lying |
| 15:33.28 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 15:33.36 | cog|work | it's more of a training thing than actually being able to tell |
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| 15:34.13 | cog|work | my fav's #16 i think |
| 15:34.19 | Funkeh` | # 16. If something we said can be interpreted two ways, |
| 15:34.20 | Funkeh` | 57 and one of the ways makes you sad or angry, |
| 15:34.20 | Funkeh` | 58 we meant the other one. |
| 15:34.22 | Funkeh` | yep |
| 15:34.32 | Funkeh` | too many times ! too many ! |
| 15:34.37 | Seerah | hehe |
| 15:35.45 | Hirsute | Anyone in here using Chatzilla with Firefox 3? |
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| 15:36.11 | cog|work | Hirsute: i use chatzilla with xulrunner... prevents all cinds of problems |
| 15:36.16 | cog|work | s/cin/kin/ |
| 15:36.26 | cog|work | FF crash? no problem :) |
| 15:36.44 | Hirsute | I'll look into it! Thanks cog|work |
| 15:36.49 | cog|work | http://chatzilla.rdmsoft.com/xulrunner/ |
| 15:36.53 | Funkeh` | i hane no problems with crashes |
| 15:37.08 | Funkeh` | probably since i dont use chatzilla |
| 15:37.45 | Funkeh` | but thats a story for a rany day |
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| 15:38.28 | Hirsute | Thanks! |
| 15:41.13 | MentalPower | I use Chatzilla on XULRunner, but not because of FF crashes, more due to the fact that since both CZ and FF are memory hogs, I like to keep them separate |
| 15:42.51 | Funkeh` | you can't deny that logic |
| 15:44.14 | Seerah | speaking of FF being a memory hog... FF2 used to use about 30-35k for me. Now, FF3 (with all of it's supposed performance upgrades) uses 120-150k according to Task Manager. what the beep? |
| 15:44.44 | Funkeh` | Oo |
| 15:44.45 | MentalPower | its actually lower, much lower for me |
| 15:44.50 | Funkeh` | me too |
| 15:44.54 | Seerah | oh yeah... I did install a new addon... maybe that's it then.... |
| 15:45.02 | Seerah | not using it though |
| 15:45.06 | wereHamster | 30k what? bytes of memory? and virtual or physical? |
| 15:45.08 | MentalPower | 250MB in FF2 down to 150MB in FF3 |
| 15:45.18 | Funkeh` | I'm using 70k with 5 tabs open |
| 15:45.20 | MentalPower | (Commit Size in Vista be my metric) |
| 15:46.04 | MentalPower | 11tabs, including gmail, facebook, myspace and ikariam, and a veritable crapton of addons |
| 15:46.39 | Funkeh` | meh |
| 15:46.42 | Funkeh` | who needs addons |
| 15:46.46 | Seerah | disabled the new plugin and restarting |
| 15:46.53 | Funkeh` | all i have are noscript and keyscrambler |
| 15:47.18 | wereHamster | what's keyscarmbler for? |
| 15:47.35 | Funkeh` | encrypting key strokes |
| 15:48.06 | MentalPower | ABP, PicLens(Best addon evar), Greasemonkey, GMail, DownThemAll, FoxyTunes, Zotero and a quite a few others |
| 15:48.10 | Tain | I don't go too addon crazy but I couldn't live without ABP, a mouse gesture addon (using FireGestures), and NoScript. |
| 15:48.14 | Funkeh` | http://qfxsoftware.com/Download.htm |
| 15:48.20 | Seerah | 117k still... I'll try without any plugins enabled |
| 15:48.38 | Tain | Oh and IE View, I get annoyed when I don't have that. |
| 15:48.55 | Seerah | oh yeah.. and I guess I can uninstall cZ :P |
| 15:49.39 | MentalPower | Seerah: cache and cookies? |
| 15:50.10 | Seerah | should be same options as in FF2, no? if not, then FF3 defaults |
| 15:51.31 | Seerah | 54k with no addons and 2 tabs open |
| 15:52.05 | Seerah | still more than FF2 was with addons |
| 15:53.13 | nevcairiel | FF3 uses a new system to track and index your history for searching in it, in a SQLlite DB iirc, that takes some more memory ;) |
| 15:53.37 | nevcairiel | Its alot faster then FF2 though, i would trade some mem usage vs speedup anyday :) |
| 15:54.18 | cog|work | having 4g ram helps ;) |
| 15:54.46 | nevcairiel | yea |
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| 15:55.06 | nevcairiel | and ram is damn cheap |
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| 15:56.50 | cog|work | thank goodness... |
| 15:57.40 | cog|work | anyone remember the memory shortage of the late '90s? >< |
| 15:58.50 | Hirsute | I do |
| 15:59.33 | cog|work | and of course there was RDRAM /barf |
| 15:59.41 | nevcairiel | RDRAM was such a failure |
| 15:59.46 | nevcairiel | good that i never had board for it |
| 16:00.12 | nevcairiel | s/board/a board/ |
| 16:00.18 | Kaso | rdram was a masive blunder, good thing intel didnt try to continue on with it |
| 16:01.32 | cog|work | we still had some Dells using RDRAM when i started at my current job... finally got rid of the last one when we upgraded to Core 2s |
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| 17:09.17 | Kaso | Does freenode ever publish client version surveys like some other networks do? |
| 17:09.39 | Kaso | i remeber seeing one for quakenet that was like 99% mIRC, i bet freenode would have a lot more variation |
| 17:10.31 | MentalPower | I've never seen one, but I guess it would not hurt to ask |
| 17:11.24 | Kaso | this is what im thinking about, from 2004 http://www.quakenet.org/news.php?item=190 |
| 17:11.30 | Kaso | mIRC (93.71%) |
| 17:11.50 | nevcairiel | doesnt freenode event query your client on connect? |
| 17:11.56 | nevcairiel | *even |
| 17:12.27 | Kaso | im not sure it does it ever connect, but ive def seen a ctcp version from freenode.net a few times before |
| 17:12.36 | Kaso | * Received a CTCP VERSION from freenode-connect |
| 17:12.42 | Kaso | oh yeah, every connect then |
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| 17:13.02 | durcyn | oh, i guess i should set my VERSION reply to something other than 'go away', then. |
| 17:13.32 | Josh_Borke | i've seen it every connect |
| 17:13.33 | nevcairiel | somehow i dont believe that only 42 eggdrop bots answered on quakenet |
| 17:14.02 | Kaso | i quite like version i wish it was more standardised, same with user-agents for browsers, those are in an awful mess due to bad standardisation |
| 17:14.24 | Kaso | what is Eggdrop? |
| 17:14.52 | Kaso | (learn to google kaso) oh i seee |
| 17:14.55 | Josh_Borke | !google eggdrop |
| 17:14.56 | batbot | Josh_Borke: Eggheads.org - Main Index <http://www.eggheads.org/> |
| 17:16.51 | Kaso | http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#freenodeconnect |
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| 17:17.07 | Kaso | Says there they may publish in statisical form, but i cant see anywhere on the website |
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| 17:21.37 | klip | you know any addon telling me time estimate for selected faction based on my progress? I would like to know estimate time of getting Conqueror title :p |
| 17:23.14 | Anaral | Have you looked on WoWInterface? I know they have a couple of rep helper addons. I don't know if they project time... but they might help in other ways. |
| 17:24.01 | klip | Im checking curse.com atm but I dont see any notice about estimate time |
| 17:24.12 | klip | Ill check wowinterface too |
| 17:24.38 | Anaral | WoWAce might also have something. |
| 17:24.59 | durcyn | Rep2 is the cloest I can think of, but it only shows repetitions, not time |
| 17:25.51 | wereHamster | klip: sparky |
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| 17:27.42 | klip | wereHamster: sparky is an addon? |
| 17:27.49 | durcyn | Xparky |
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| 17:28.35 | klip | oh, nice, thanks a lot |
| 17:29.04 | wereHamster | ~fail wereHamster |
| 17:29.05 | purl | wereHamster, you Fail! |
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| 17:32.30 | klip | well, actually thanks to wereHamster I found LilSparky's Workshop addon which worths a try :) |
| 17:33.03 | Anaral | It's outdated and is a tad buggy. |
| 17:33.22 | klip | hmm, it's a pity |
| 17:33.41 | Anaral | The basics should still work, I was just warning you. |
| 17:34.00 | klip | ok :) |
| 17:35.27 | Anaral | Note to Self: When doing a google search, it helps to spell the term correctly. |
| 17:36.00 | Lopeppeppy | Yup |
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| 17:42.02 | Thunder_Child | Anaral, why? thats what googles "You're an idiot, is this the word your enfeebled mind was trying to spell correctly?" is for. I use it all the time |
| 17:43.40 | Seerah | hehe |
| 17:43.43 | wereHamster | it didn't correct my 'sparky' to 'xparky', to that feature isn't useful at all times |
| 17:44.38 | Thunder_Child | wereHamster, there you need to spell it wrong in the correct way...do you expect it to do *everything* for you? |
| 17:44.57 | Thunder_Child | s/there/then/ |
| 17:45.34 | Anaral | Except when you're searching for one word, and miss spell it by a vowel and the other vowel also makes up a true word. |
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| 17:48.02 | klip | I read something about how it works and it works so that if you search something and you dont click on any result and you search again with little different word, it makes connection between these two words |
| 17:48.05 | cog|work | ... STATION! |
| 17:48.13 | Lunessa | No U |
| 17:48.14 | cog|work | Lunessa r teh sloooo |
| 17:48.14 | ScytheBlade1 | ha, cog wins |
| 17:48.36 | Lunessa | Victory Lap! FINISH HIM! |
| 17:48.48 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr. |
| 17:48.52 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa. |
| 17:49.07 | Lunessa | 'sup peeps? |
| 17:49.15 | cog|work | Rawr |
| 17:49.21 | cog|work | ~poke Gryphen |
| 17:49.21 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Gryphen, pokes Gryphen repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 17:49.21 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 17:49.29 | Lunessa | I'm surrounded by Dinosaurs. |
| 17:49.44 | cog|work | ~hug Gryphen |
| 17:49.45 | purl | ACTION hugs Gryphen tightly until Gryphen turns slightly blue |
| 17:49.57 | Lopeppeppy | Gryphen. Dear. If you're afraid of me, be terrified of purl. She's tougher. |
| 17:51.23 | wereHamster | ~station |
| 17:52.05 | Lunessa | purl is like the psycho ex girlfriend that stalked you to your weekly D&D group and then accused you of sleeping with the DM. |
| 17:56.59 | Lunessa | Anyone with a fuller understanding of combat log and parsing for pet/totem/trap ownership (as in making calculated guesses) want to comment in http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7116550767&sid=1 ? |
| 17:57.20 | ScytheBlade1 | You have to watch the creation event |
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| 17:57.40 | hi11ie | hey, is there actually a WoW client for Linux or does it somehow know it's not running on Windows? (Wine) .. i'm asking because of the existance of IsLinuxClient() |
| 17:57.54 | ScytheBlade1 | hi11ie: used to be, back in beta |
| 17:57.54 | ScytheBlade1 | it died |
| 17:57.55 | ScytheBlade1 | =[ |
| 17:57.59 | wereHamster | it does not know that it's not running on linux |
| 17:58.03 | hi11ie | :( |
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| 17:58.37 | Lunessa | yeah, it was a dream, but three platforms of development were too much. |
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| 17:59.05 | Seerah | hi moon :) |
| 17:59.11 | Seerah | hey.... what happened to that nap? |
| 17:59.18 | MoonWitch | oh yes |
| 17:59.22 | MoonWitch | the prekara nap |
| 17:59.24 | MoonWitch | meh |
| 17:59.53 | Lunessa | I can has nap? And a cheesevurger? |
| 18:00.08 | ScytheBlade1 | I can has haircut |
| 18:00.09 | ScytheBlade1 | afk |
| 18:00.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: I replied to that thread though. If I'm horribly wrong in the end, feel free to verbally abuse me |
| 18:00.42 | MoonWitch | I can has no nap |
| 18:01.00 | MoonWitch | oooh verbal abuse requested? |
| 18:01.00 | Seerah | what's a cheesevurger, lunessa? ;) |
| 18:01.09 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr. |
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| 18:01.21 | MoonWitch | that screenie Seerah, happened to me too many times >< |
| 18:01.40 | Lunessa | ScytheBlade1: No, you're right. I don't know a better way to get it since they're not explicitly tagged. Ad least I don't see ownership for those items in the log. |
| 18:01.51 | Seerah | that was one of the comics for the wow comic contest |
| 18:01.57 | MoonWitch | yeah |
| 18:02.00 | MoonWitch | i love it |
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| 18:02.19 | Lunessa | Seerah: a cheesevurger is what you get when Lunessa hasn't had lunch yet. |
| 18:02.25 | Seerah | ohh |
| 18:02.35 | Seerah | I just had a nice big turkey and provolone sandwich :) |
| 18:03.51 | MoonWitch | hey Tek |
| 18:03.58 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:04.03 | Tekkub | * /moan |
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| 18:08.32 | Lunessa | Tekkub: Get the butter out? |
| 18:08.42 | Tekkub | meh |
| 18:09.28 | Lunessa | Well, oil is good for the facial hair. |
| 18:09.43 | cog|work | can anyone with a G15 verify that the default WoW profile still blocks "illegal" macro functionality? |
| 18:10.09 | nevcairiel | it has a wow profile? |
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| 18:10.24 | cog|work | afaik |
| 18:12.11 | Shirik | cog|work: I can verify that a year ago it didn't :) |
| 18:12.15 | Shirik | I don't know if that has changed |
| 18:12.58 | cog|work | i know there were ways around it |
| 18:13.06 | nevcairiel | Oh i remember, i deleted the profile because i dont use the keys ingame |
| 18:13.12 | nevcairiel | and want my bindings everywhere the same |
| 18:13.25 | nevcairiel | (only using for voice talk and muting etc) |
| 18:13.56 | Lunessa | If they made an ergo version of that keyboard, I'd buy one. |
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| 18:22.18 | Anaral | Anyone here use AHSearch? It's an addon that lets you save searchs. |
| 18:22.53 | Lunessa | cog|work: ping - http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7116281121&postId=72828562708&sid=1#2 |
| 18:23.01 | Shirik | ~dict matriculated |
| 18:23.08 | hi11ie | i would just use auctioneer |
| 18:23.23 | Shirik | why couldn't they just say "currently enrolled" or something... |
| 18:23.34 | Shirik | "A student is defined as full and part-time matriculated students of a higher education institution defined as a public or private, vocational school, correspondence school, junior college, college, university, or scientific or technical institution" |
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| 18:23.38 | Lunessa | Shirik: Because matriculated means a very specific thing. |
| 18:23.42 | cog|work | Lunessa: i was just reading a different thread on that and thought the same thing :P |
| 18:23.54 | wereHamster | Shirik: it just the academic way of saying it :) |
| 18:24.25 | Shirik | don't matter |
| 18:24.30 | Lunessa | It doesn't always mean enrolled; many universities will accept you, but don't count you as enrolled until you register for a class - thus, matriculated. |
| 18:24.34 | Thunder_Child | it does to them |
| 18:24.36 | Shirik | I won't complain when I can get software for $125 that normally sells for $2800 |
| 18:24.57 | Lunessa | cog|work: ;) |
| 18:27.29 | Lunessa | *headdesk* *pounds until he looks like Andrew WK in a concert poster* http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7116421228&sid=1&pageNo=2 |
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| 18:33.58 | Thunder_Child | "A team of researchers have created the shortest-ever flash of light. Weighing in at just 80 attoseconds, this flash has already been used to capture an image of a laser pulse and could possibly be used in the future to capture the electron movement around large atoms." though the flash is still too long to catch britneys sane moments. |
| 18:34.37 | hi11ie | heh |
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| 18:36.48 | Shirik | wtf is an attosecond |
| 18:37.09 | Shirik | An attosecond is one billionth of one billionth of a second. (One attosecond is to one second what one second is to the age of the universe.) See also times of other orders of magnitude. |
| 18:37.11 | Tekkub | lern to SI |
| 18:37.13 | Shirik | wow. |
| 18:37.17 | cog|work | milli, micro, nano, etc |
| 18:37.22 | Shirik | I know my SI as much as I need to |
| 18:37.23 | wereHamster | micro, nano, femto, atto |
| 18:37.35 | Shirik | you forgot pico |
| 18:37.36 | wereHamster | nano, pico, femto |
| 18:37.46 | wereHamster | sry, been too long :P |
| 18:37.48 | Shirik | I know up to pico, because that's all I need to know :) |
| 18:37.53 | Shirik | capacitors don't go any further |
| 18:38.07 | Shirik | well they might, but it's meaningless to me |
| 18:38.10 | Tekkub | apparently you now need to know more |
| 18:38.19 | Shirik | I have no reason to know about attoseconds :P |
| 18:40.35 | Cide | Shirik: 10^-18 |
| 18:40.44 | Cide | you fail |
| 18:40.58 | Shirik | well I can see that by now at the top of wikipedia too |
| 18:41.03 | Shirik | :P |
| 18:41.05 | Cide | I didn't look |
| 18:42.13 | Cide | yocta? |
| 18:42.23 | Cide | 10^-24 I believe |
| 18:42.38 | Cide | yup! |
| 18:42.52 | Cide | don't know any past that though |
| 18:42.54 | Tekkub | captcha? |
| 18:43.08 | Cide | doesn't matter what it is, as long as you type it correctly |
| 18:43.10 | Cide | :P |
| 18:44.14 | Shirik | how convenient Cide |
| 18:44.20 | Shirik | 10^-24 is as far as wikipedia goes too :P |
| 18:44.45 | Cide | I'm honest :P |
| 18:44.52 | Cide | I don't know 10^-21 however |
| 18:44.59 | Cide | I haven't opened that page either |
| 18:45.05 | Cide | I verified yocta at http://freefactfinder.com/definition/Yocta-.html |
| 18:45.36 | Tekkub | Gotcha? |
| 18:45.50 | Shirik | gotchasecond? |
| 18:47.07 | cog|work | wiki says yocto |
| 18:47.50 | cog|work | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SI_prefix#List_of_SI_prefixes |
| 18:48.13 | Fisker- | set sail for fail Tekkub |
| 18:50.10 | wereHamster | funny how 'One' (10^0) has 'NA' in the Since column |
| 18:51.10 | cog|work | NA means not applicable |
| 18:51.29 | Tekkub | NAsecond |
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| 18:53.10 | Fisker- | stay a while and listen |
| 18:55.01 | Fisker- | off* |
| 18:55.14 | cog|work | /cast Escape Artist |
| 18:56.03 | Fisker- | only works on roots |
| 18:56.08 | Fisker- | not getting your legs cut |
| 18:56.19 | cog|work | removes movement impairing effects |
| 18:56.32 | cog|work | lack of legs is a movement impoiring effect imo :P |
| 18:56.38 | Dashkal | NS/Cyclone? |
| 19:02.09 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7116639730&pageNo=1&sid=1 <-omg nda |
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| 19:18.04 | ZealotOnAStick | Cairenn|afk: ping |
| 19:18.13 | Cairenn|afk | ZealotOnAStick: pong |
| 19:18.53 | ZealotOnAStick | Can I big you for an id string similar to Zyuu's? |
| 19:18.58 | ZealotOnAStick | s/big/bug/ |
| 19:19.05 | Cairenn | ? |
| 19:19.10 | Cairenn | not sure what you mean |
| 19:19.12 | ZealotOnAStick | Zyuu is n=zyuu@WoWUIDev/CurseStaff/CurseForge/WOWDB/AionSource/Zyuu (Zyuu) |
| 19:19.21 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm probably using entirely wrong term. |
| 19:19.28 | Cairenn | ooooh |
| 19:19.32 | ScytheBlade1 | hostmask |
| 19:19.32 | Cairenn | you want a cloak |
| 19:19.34 | Cairenn | sure |
| 19:19.49 | Cairenn | what do you want? it MUST start @WoWUIDev |
| 19:19.59 | Cairenn | but you can put whatever sort of affiliation you want after that |
| 19:20.22 | durcyn | oh, who do we have to bribe to get an affiliation, anyway >_> |
| 19:20.44 | ScytheBlade1 | there's always just "WoWUIDev/name" |
| 19:20.52 | Cairenn | no one - you decide where you want to pay homage to, if anywhere |
| 19:20.53 | ScytheBlade1 | affiliation isn't required, the masks are free-form |
| 19:20.58 | Cairenn | yep |
| 19:21.08 | Cairenn | except for the WoWUIDev portion |
| 19:21.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, yeah, hehe |
| 19:21.31 | ZealotOnAStick | hmm, something like WoWUIDev/CurseStaff/CurseForge/WOWDB/ConanArmory/ZealotOnAStick |
| 19:21.42 | Cairenn | you work on all of that? |
| 19:21.54 | ZealotOnAStick | And more, I'm QA. :/ |
| 19:22.00 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 19:22.09 | Cairenn | why not just say CurseStaff then? |
| 19:22.12 | Dashkal | Oh so it's you I should be harassing? :p |
| 19:22.31 | ZealotOnAStick | Ok. |
| 19:22.45 | ZealotOnAStick | Dashkal: possibly. |
| 19:23.02 | Drundia | just make it say QA :D |
| 19:23.09 | Cairenn | yep |
| 19:23.11 | Drundia | so everyone knows whom to harass |
| 19:23.15 | ZealotOnAStick | CurseStaff/CurseQA ? |
| 19:23.43 | Cairenn | it can be whatever you want, but (imo) kinda silly to list so many different things when they're all Curse |
| 19:23.54 | Cairenn | not sure why Zyuu put so much |
| 19:23.55 | ZealotOnAStick | though I'm beginning to wonder if leaving the QA bit off would be in my best interests. |
| 19:24.00 | Cairenn | I mean, look at mine |
| 19:24.19 | Cairenn | or Clad's, or Mental's, or |
| 19:24.26 | ZealotOnAStick | Let's go with non-silly then. I looked at Zyuu's, vhaar's, kaelten's, ck's . . . |
| 19:24.58 | Cairenn | kael's is a perfect example of showing different affiliations, because he's member of more than one |
| 19:24.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Or mine! |
| 19:25.01 | ScytheBlade1 | (I cheat) |
| 19:25.12 | Cairenn | zyuu's (imo, again) is rather silly, since it's all the same place |
| 19:25.14 | ZealotOnAStick | simpler is fine. |
| 19:25.23 | wereHamster | what's WoWIFA? |
| 19:25.29 | Cairenn | Featured Artist |
| 19:25.40 | wereHamster | green font in the forums? |
| 19:25.46 | Cairenn | no |
| 19:25.49 | wereHamster | or is that MVP.. |
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| 19:25.52 | foxlit | Or you could look at mine! |
| 19:25.58 | foxlit | Which is "I don't care!" |
| 19:26.00 | Cairenn | that's MVP, on blizz forums |
| 19:26.08 | foxlit | :) |
| 19:26.12 | wereHamster | IFA is in what forums? |
| 19:26.17 | foxlit | WoWI |
| 19:26.22 | foxlit | that prefix is a bit of a hint |
| 19:26.29 | Cairenn | WoWI FA == Featured Artist at WoWI :p |
| 19:26.31 | wereHamster | ah -.- it's WoWI FA, not WoW IFA |
| 19:26.59 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:27.08 | Cairenn | well, kinda silly ;) |
| 19:27.14 | Drundia | everyone knows who is boss...... |
| 19:27.45 | foxlit | why does Rend work on everything? |
| 19:27.48 | ZealotOnAStick | Ok, the FedEx truck that's been parked on the grass across the road for hours just left. |
| 19:28.00 | ZealotOnAStick | I think it's government spies. |
| 19:28.14 | ZealotOnAStick | Though we DO have a FedEx office in this building. |
| 19:28.18 | foxlit | psst, they're spying on your wrath alpha access! |
| 19:28.39 | Cairenn | Dave2: ping? |
| 19:30.10 | Cairenn | if you want a cloak, figure out what you want it to be, remember that it MUST start @WoWUIDev/whatever, and IM me |
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| 19:45.50 | Cairenn | I'm talking to a freenode staff member right now, the three that asked for cloaks are getting them right now - if anyone else wants one, now is a good time to pm me with it |
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| 19:47.39 | Cairenn | grrrr, stupid pidgin crashing on me :p |
| 19:47.51 | cncfanatics | go go console irc from remote |
| 19:47.54 | Shirik | well this is fun |
| 19:47.57 | Shirik | error C2440: 'reinterpret_cast' : cannot convert from 'DWORD' to 'DWORD' |
| 19:48.10 | cncfanatics | huh ? |
| 19:48.14 | cncfanatics | why are you casting there ? :p |
| 19:48.44 | Shirik | well I screwed up the cast |
| 19:48.51 | Shirik | but I didn't expect it to say I'm not allowed to do that |
| 19:49.05 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 19:49.07 | cncfanatics | quite logical |
| 19:49.14 | cncfanatics | casting from a type to the same type makes no sense |
| 19:49.22 | Shirik | yeah but it should be legal imo :P |
| 19:49.30 | cncfanatics | why ? |
| 19:49.36 | Shirik | I can do (int)(int)(int)(int)4 can't I? |
| 19:49.46 | cncfanatics | you shouldn't be able to imho :p |
| 19:50.04 | cncfanatics | your compile should enforce that if you can't reintrepret cast a DWORD to DWORD |
| 19:51.01 | foxlit | "No evil casting stuff in you, Java. Oh who's a good language?" |
| 19:51.46 | foxlit | first is legal, second isn't, I think |
| 19:51.55 | foxlit | Neither is evil, though :) |
| 19:51.55 | cncfanatics | eh |
| 19:52.05 | cncfanatics | Integer.parseInteger("string here"); |
| 19:52.11 | cncfanatics | thats casting tbh |
| 19:52.19 | foxlit | No, that's a library call |
| 19:52.20 | Shirik | Java has C casting too |
| 19:52.41 | Drundia | (int)(int)(int)(int)4 is like good C/C++. you can do anything there. |
| 19:52.54 | foxlit | I don't think it blocks same-type casting, though |
| 19:53.02 | foxlit | Hence it's not evil in that respect :) |
| 19:53.22 | Dashkal | union { struct { int a, int b }, double d } |
| 19:53.30 | Dashkal | I did something like that once just to see how doubles worked... |
| 19:53.43 | Drundia | doubles are cool |
| 19:54.24 | Shirik | it doesn't foxlit |
| 19:54.30 | cncfanatics | IEEE stuff right, Drundia? |
| 19:54.38 | Drundia | yes |
| 19:54.40 | Shirik | I know this because my IDE yells at me all the time "redundant cast" |
| 19:54.43 | Shirik | in warnings |
| 19:55.34 | Dashkal | I wanna know why java refuses to implicitly cast from short to int... |
| 19:55.39 | Shirik | that's dangerous Dashkal :) |
| 19:55.47 | Dashkal | erm? short is smaller, both are signed... |
| 19:55.49 | Shirik | that union won't always work like you want it to, at least it's not guaranteed to |
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| 19:56.00 | Dashkal | oh, the union, I know that now, but at the time I was learning c |
| 19:56.14 | Drundia | unions are good, structs may be word-aligned |
| 19:56.17 | Shirik | since the compiler doesn't have to necessarily align the ints |
| 19:56.20 | Dashkal | it did work perfectly in borland c 3.1 :p |
| 19:56.27 | Drundia | implementation-dependant word |
| 19:56.50 | Dashkal | it wasn't until much later that I learned that compiliers didn't have to do that the way I expected |
| 19:57.05 | Cide | compilers don't have to do shit |
| 19:57.11 | Shirik | with all the SSE work I've done in the last week data misalignment is like second nature to me now >< |
| 19:57.14 | Cide | they're free-thinking individuals whose sole job is to piss you off |
| 19:57.17 | Dashkal | But by then I was beginning to learn to do UI programming in (I cringe to admit this) visual basic 4 |
| 19:57.24 | Shirik | s/data/seeing data/ |
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| 20:03.51 | Lunessa | Cide: That's YOUR job, not the compilers. |
| 20:04.00 | Cide | I know |
| 20:04.27 | Cide | fuckers are stealing mah job! |
| 20:04.50 | Lunessa | Those Evil Robot Us' are doing terrible things! |
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| 20:05.24 | Cide | http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=22060 |
| 20:05.36 | Cide | those images (scroll down past the ugly red/blue tiles) are pretty awesome |
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| 20:10.13 | Lunessa | They remind me of neurological pathway tracings... |
| 20:10.37 | Dashkal | Cide: very very cool find there |
| 20:11.23 | Cide | someone should create a program to do that |
| 20:11.45 | Cide | and make it so that it's easy to change the actual algorithm for the particles' behavior |
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| 20:11.49 | Cide | and then release it to the rest of us |
| 20:11.54 | Cide | so I can play around with it |
| 20:12.25 | Cide | Shirik: go |
| 20:12.42 | Shirik | ? |
| 20:13.23 | Cide | read above! |
| 20:13.36 | Shirik | I didn't understand any of that |
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| 20:16.17 | Sixen | lol |
| 20:18.41 | Cide | <Cide> http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=22060 |
| 20:18.42 | Cide | <Cide> those images (scroll down past the ugly red/blue tiles) are pretty awesome |
| 20:19.44 | Shirik | meh, at work right now |
| 20:19.51 | Shirik | trying to clean up as it's my last day |
| 20:20.04 | Cide | plenty of time to do that tomorrow then |
| 20:20.29 | Shirik | I'll be driving 5 hours tomorrow... |
| 20:20.38 | nevcairiel | 19 hours left |
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| 20:28.49 | malreth | RAWR!@#!# |
| 20:29.02 | Cairenn | hi malreth :) |
| 20:29.10 | cog|work | /cower |
| 20:29.17 | malreth | i maked a new lab |
| 20:30.52 | malreth | and now i'm reading about Sex Radiation |
| 20:31.26 | malreth | i can tell by your silence that you're impressed |
| 20:31.57 | cog|work | clearly |
| 20:32.09 | cog|work | :P |
| 20:36.32 | Tekkub | Sex Radiation? need lead-enriched condoms? |
| 20:38.13 | Drundia | that sounds like interesting reading |
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| 20:38.57 | malreth | Drundia: Warren Ellis is a god |
| 20:39.03 | malreth | A sex ray god |
| 20:39.31 | Tekkub | on second thought, that doesn't sound like a great idea... like mixing lead-based painta nd latex-based paint |
| 20:39.44 | Tekkub | and then sticking your dick in it... |
| 20:40.11 | Lunessa | holy <bleep> It's Malreth |
| 20:40.30 | malreth | Lunessa: hey... watch your fucking mouth! |
| 20:40.37 | Lunessa | No U |
| 20:40.49 | Lunessa | I might be going to Austin tomorrow night. |
| 20:40.53 | malreth | srsly? |
| 20:41.17 | malreth | i'm gonna be busy, tho |
| 20:41.37 | malreth | our wedding planner is coming over for the weekend |
| 20:41.57 | malreth | since the wedding is imminent |
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| 20:44.21 | Lunessa | A friend's b-day party, and my 'rents are visiting sibs in Austin. So I kinda gotta go. |
| 20:44.24 | Tekkub | I wish the AH had a "I don't give a shit about bids" mode that made them go away |
| 20:44.30 | Tekkub | everything was just buyouts |
| 20:44.33 | foxlit | Hm, I wonder |
| 20:44.48 | foxlit | People are reporting issues with drag and drop mechanics that are handled by having an OnMouseDown handler on a frame |
| 20:44.51 | Anaral | How do you get a window in XP to move when the bar is hidden and right clicking the program to move it doesn't work? |
| 20:45.07 | foxlit | I don't suppose they could be expecting things to work without clicking to "drop" whatever it is they're dragging? |
| 20:45.24 | malreth | Anaral: alt, space, m |
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| 20:46.13 | Anaral | That's what doesn't work |
| 20:46.41 | Tekkub | changing screen res will usually pull everything back in |
| 20:46.58 | Anaral | Duh. Thank you. |
| 20:47.07 | Dreagar | anyone know where i can find a list, that has the zone names, in all the locales, along with their place in each locales zonelist? |
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| 20:52.17 | Shirik | Anaral: right click taskbar and hit move |
| 20:52.23 | Shirik | oh nm |
| 20:52.45 | Anaral | Sorry, forgot to say that Tekkub's suggestion fixed it. :D |
| 20:54.31 | Anaral | Though I'm still not pleased with the program. I'm trying different IM clients that support IRC. I tried ICE earlier, and didn't like it... now I'm on Pidgin (formerly GAIM). |
| 20:54.44 | Anaral | It's better than Ice, but needs more options. :p |
| 20:54.56 | klip | I like IRC client that support other IM's :p |
| 20:55.07 | klip | irssi+bitlbee is my option |
| 20:57.10 | Tekkub | agreed, bitlbee |
| 20:57.18 | Tekkub | and xchat in my case :) |
| 20:57.52 | Anaral | Isn't Bitlbee and Irssi both for linux? |
| 20:58.05 | Tekkub | you can use bitlbee's server |
| 20:58.13 | Tekkub | then all you need is an IRC client |
| 20:58.22 | foxlit | Any clever ideas on how I can effectively throttle FPS? |
| 20:58.43 | Dreagar | so, i got this mod, that has a database, it takes a zone name, translates it (or attempts to) into the number it is in the blizzard zonelist file. and then sends that to TomTom to make a waypoint come up. in german and spanish (and prolly most other locales cept EN) it puts the waypoints in the wrong zone. i'm assuming it's because the number isn't the same for each zone list in each locale. |
| 20:58.44 | kd3 | use a speedup loop? 'for i=1,100000000 do end'? |
| 20:58.47 | foxlit | Want to see whether some things are unbearable at low frame rates :( |
| 20:58.49 | Anaral | The same way you throttle a pixel? |
| 20:58.58 | klip | irssi runs on win also, but yes, natively is for posix platforms |
| 20:59.11 | Lunessa | Colloquy + Adium on my iMac, Chatzilla + Trillian (free) on my XP box. |
| 20:59.17 | foxlit | Preferably something more finely grained than that :) |
| 20:59.41 | foxlit | Hah, that RSA code is going to come in useful for something after all |
| 20:59.44 | Dreagar | I'm attempting to fix it by makin a DB that holds the names in english, and a list of the locations of each zonename in whatever locale it is and just send the number to tomtom depending on thelocale.. but i cna't find a list of all zonenames and table locations for each locale. at least not one that's been updated since BC. any ideas. |
| 20:59.49 | Drundia | ./console maxfps x |
| 20:59.57 | foxlit | Throttles math to achieve a target framerate, it's awesome |
| 21:00.01 | Lunessa | kd3: lawl. |
| 21:00.02 | foxlit | I'd need to run wow on a mac |
| 21:00.13 | Drundia | works on windows |
| 21:00.32 | Anaral | Lunessa: I've used Trillian in the past, a few times... and while it does it's job, I always end up stop using it... |
| 21:00.38 | Drundia | at least for me.... |
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| 21:01.13 | foxlit | you're right, it does |
| 21:01.21 | Tekkub | if the only feature you want to to exchange plain text, bitlbee all the way |
| 21:01.39 | Tekkub | every single client out there tries to add more and more stupid "features" |
| 21:01.42 | Lunessa | Anaral: *shrug* I was an AOL Instant Messenger developer. Now I use Trillian because I'm too lazy to worry about which IM client my friends want to use. And I'm cheap, so I don't pay for the full version. |
| 21:02.01 | malreth | Dreagar: Babble-Zone-2.2 lib has translations |
| 21:02.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | Lunessa, digsby |
| 21:02.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | doit |
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| 21:02.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's awesome :D |
| 21:02.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | especially if you use social networking sites at all |
| 21:03.01 | Anaral | Lunessa: I'll try chatzilla. Worst comes to worse I'll install trillian free once again. :) |
| 21:03.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.digsby.com/screenshots.php |
| 21:03.25 | Lunessa | Mr_Rabies2: that looks kind of cool. |
| 21:03.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | it uses a decent amount of resources, but it's still in beta, and despite using more ram, runs like 10x smoother and looks 100x better than pidgin in windows |
| 21:04.20 | Dreagar | awesome thanks mal. |
| 21:04.45 | Dreagar | that on ace page? |
| 21:04.58 | malreth | yah |
| 21:05.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've never figured out how it uses more resources yet runs more smooth/cleanly than anything else |
| 21:05.26 | Anaral | Mr_Rabies: Thank ye. I'll try it |
| 21:05.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not sure it works with irc |
| 21:05.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i don't use IM clients' irc anyway |
| 21:05.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | they tend to be lacking 99% of the time |
| 21:06.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | chatzilla only on computers i can't install mirc onto |
| 21:06.38 | Anaral | *nods* And no, Digsby doesn't support IRC |
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| 21:12.39 | Lunessa | Most IM clients don't and do do it well if they do. |
| 21:13.20 | Fisker- | YOU |
| 21:13.30 | Lunessa | IT WAS ME! |
| 21:13.35 | Anaral | lol |
| 21:13.36 | Fisker- | NO |
| 21:13.37 | Fisker- | U |
| 21:14.48 | malreth | WTF? |
| 21:15.13 | DARKGuy | WTF, LOL |
| 21:17.42 | Anaral | Brb, trying Chatzilla. |
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| 21:18.47 | malreth | Lunessa: we still don't have the lab refit approved. i don't think it's gonna happen this year. |
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| 21:19.01 | malreth | it's so stupid, too |
| 21:19.37 | malreth | but my employer did buy me a new macbook pro so at least i'm happy about that |
| 21:20.07 | Lunessa | malreth: bummer. I've pitched a similar idea here, but I'm not in a position to do more than offer it as an idea. I don't have anything to do with the labs, and I would have to beat down an anti-mac bias from the man who controls the budget. |
| 21:20.44 | DARKGuy | Mac sucks! |
| 21:20.58 | malreth | we're gonna go subversive on the management on this one |
| 21:21.27 | malreth | we're setting up dual-boot labs elsewhere for our contracted clients |
| 21:21.41 | malreth | they're much easier to convince |
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| 21:23.35 | malreth | my newest lab is really nice |
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| 21:24.00 | malreth | 10 8-core mac pros with 4 GB RAM and dual 24-inch monitors each |
| 21:24.15 | Lunessa | next time your school hosts, I'll come up and visit |
| 21:24.49 | malreth | that one's a private departmental lab in a secured room |
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| 21:25.24 | malreth | the Psychology department uses it for neuroscience imaging |
| 21:25.37 | malreth | they keep kid's brains in those computers |
| 21:25.42 | DARKGuy | @.@ |
| 21:25.54 | DARKGuy | that's bad :( |
| 21:25.54 | Lunessa | mmmmm.... brains. |
| 21:25.56 | DARKGuy | poor kids |
| 21:25.57 | DARKGuy | :( |
| 21:26.13 | DARKGuy | :( :( :(! |
| 21:26.26 | Lunessa | All we want to do is model your brains. We're not unreasonable; I mean no one's gonna model your wang. |
| 21:26.41 | DARKGuy | XD |
| 21:26.46 | Tuller | you get paid for that! |
| 21:26.51 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 21:26.52 | DARKGuy | :D |
| 21:27.13 | Tuller | in that I knew a person who posed nude for art classes |
| 21:27.25 | malreth | "You've been had." "And more often than you know!" |
| 21:28.36 | Lunessa | malreth: Coupling reference for the win. |
| 21:29.15 | malreth | i wonder if male life study models pop a viagra before their appointments |
| 21:29.24 | malreth | you know |
| 21:29.34 | malreth | for "assistance" |
| 21:30.40 | foxlit | #malenudemodels beckons |
| 21:30.46 | Lunessa | ... malreth - I could tell you stories about models, performers, actors, etc. who do unhealthy things for those sorts of reasons... |
| 21:31.16 | ZealotOnAStick | I dunno . . . |
| 21:31.33 | ZealotOnAStick | I'd sort of be creeped out a bit if I was drawing a model who seemed turned on the entire time. |
| 21:31.45 | malreth | chicks have it easy... their parts always look good |
| 21:32.03 | ZealotOnAStick | I can see all the females (and some of the guys) going "ewww, he's getting all stiff over me" |
| 21:32.15 | DARKGuy | XD |
| 21:32.27 | Lunessa | ... as long as they are acquainted with hygiene and a razor. :P |
| 21:32.29 | DARKGuy | if it's a hot guy they don't mind :P |
| 21:32.34 | DARKGuy | see XD |
| 21:32.57 | Anaral | Is there a way to change or even eliminate the coding thats on the nickname panel when people emote, change, or leave/enter through chatzilla? |
| 21:33.14 | malreth | do male models then practice mental control to keep a floppy? |
| 21:34.00 | Anaral | % |
| 21:34.09 | Anaral | bah |
| 21:34.36 | ZealotOnAStick | I imagine it's like the one episode of Family Guy where Quagmire's trying to keep from getting excited. |
| 21:34.48 | ZealotOnAStick | "Anne Heche, Anne Heche!" |
| 21:35.03 | JoshBorke | why is it that malreth is always at the center of bizarre conversations? |
| 21:35.22 | malreth | JoshBorke: i do it on purpose to whore for attention |
| 21:35.51 | malreth | and since it's been over a month since i last logged in, i have lots of catching up to do |
| 21:36.16 | JoshBorke | no one pays attention to when you're hear and when you're not :-P |
| 21:37.34 | malreth | I pay attention to when you're here... |
| 21:37.41 | JoshBorke | aw, that's sweet |
| 21:37.50 | JoshBorke | ~emulate Josh_Borke |
| 21:37.51 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn |
| 21:38.21 | Lunessa | Anaral: It's not in the options, so I don't know of a way to do what you ask. |
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| 21:38.54 | erikd | hmm, that would explain why nobody has talked in this channel since 7:15am |
| 21:39.11 | JoshBorke | heh |
| 21:39.15 | erikd | thought it seemed kinda dead :P |
| 21:39.21 | foxlit | /ignore everyone |
| 21:39.22 | foxlit | :) |
| 21:39.34 | DARKGuy | XD |
| 21:39.57 | erikd | i wish irssi had a way of telling you that you've been dc'ed other than just not showing a channel |
| 21:40.24 | DARKGuy | KERNEL PANIC!!!!!!! |
| 21:40.56 | malreth | wb, erikd |
| 21:41.30 | Anaral | Anyone know if the formatted links are broken in preview pane on the main WoW forums? |
| 21:41.46 | wereHamster | erikd: doesn't window 1 tell you that? |
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| 21:44.58 | Anaral | Actually the formatted links appear to be broken all around. :( |
| 21:45.46 | kd3 | that's deliberate after the 0-day flash vuln info got loose |
| 21:45.52 | kd3 | only blues can make clickable links right now |
| 21:46.11 | Anaral | Lunessa: What about getting messges sent on enter instead of ctrl+enter? |
| 21:46.28 | erikd | werehamster: yeah but i usually just leave it on 2 :) |
| 21:46.39 | Lunessa | Anaral: When I use ChatZilla, enter works. |
| 21:46.40 | erikd | i get dc'ed so rarely i don't bother |
| 21:47.00 | Dashkal | Anaral: is your chat box extended? Shrink it again (icon in the lower-right corner) |
| 21:47.26 | Anaral | *sighs* |
| 21:47.35 | Anaral | But I like two lines. |
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| 21:55.39 | Anaral | Oooh, http://www.kvirc.net/ looks shiney |
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| 21:56.54 | malreth | hooray! |
| 21:58.40 | malreth | don't forget about http://www.mibbit.com/ |
| 21:58.48 | Lunessa | now is the time for the pandas and the kung fu. |
| 21:58.51 | foxlit | "You cannot raid target enemy players" |
| 21:59.06 | Lunessa | And the eating of calories and the drinking of caffeine. |
| 21:59.18 | Lunessa | Ciao. |
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| 22:00.53 | Anaral | malreth: I don't want to use a web-based client since I'm always closing my browser before logging into wow. |
| 22:01.33 | durcyn | foxlit: er, what? |
| 22:01.55 | foxlit | It's an interesting error message |
| 22:02.28 | nevcairiel | also, the message describes a totally different error |
| 22:02.31 | foxlit | appears when you attempt to set a raid target marker on your non-existing target outside a raid |
| 22:04.16 | wereHamster | wow, that's genious: Try entering "350ml in cups" into Google. |
| 22:04.44 | MentalPower | yeah, its converts it |
| 22:06.34 | Tuller | cubits! |
| 22:06.47 | wereHamster | however it fails at: 100GB in truckloads |
| 22:07.02 | Anaral | lol |
| 22:07.12 | JoshBorke | well, what is a truckload? |
| 22:07.13 | foxlit | That's because the standard unit is Libraries of Congress |
| 22:07.16 | foxlit | not truckloads! |
| 22:07.29 | wereHamster | nada |
| 22:07.56 | Tuller | so many cars I need to test drive soon, bah |
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| 22:15.54 | |Anaral| | Test? |
| 22:15.59 | |Anaral| | Woo hoo! |
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| 22:16.17 | Cairenn | hi |
| 22:16.23 | wereHamster | there's #test in case you need to test something |
| 22:16.44 | |Anaral| | I'm in love! KVIRC is my new best friend. |
| 22:17.47 | Yssaril | join the club |Anaral| :) |
| 22:36.13 | Cide | does KVIRC let you align nicknames like in xchat? |
| 22:36.42 | Cide | also, does it allow nicknames to be hash-colored? |
| 22:37.01 | |Anaral| | I didn't try xchat |
| 22:37.33 | Cide | http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/28010/xchat.JPG |
| 22:38.12 | Cide | that displays the two best features of xchat |
| 22:38.15 | foxlit | Wonder why people insist on fixed-width fonts for IRC |
| 22:38.21 | |Anaral| | Heh |
| 22:38.22 | foxlit | It's not like they're nice to read |
| 22:38.31 | Cide | meh, they're not bad to read |
| 22:38.39 | Cide | if you're a programmer it's second-nature :P |
| 22:38.48 | |Anaral| | It does the hashes. |
| 22:39.00 | foxlit | You're all orange to me :) |
| 22:39.04 | |Anaral| | But so far I haven't made it to screen appearance yet. |
| 22:39.09 | Cide | and since every channel but 1 that I frequent are programming-based, I can't complain |
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| 22:39.40 | Cide | do note how my two questions lined up perfectly |
| 22:39.41 | Cide | http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/28010/xchat.JPG |
| 22:39.47 | Cide | lines 2 and 3 from the bottom |
| 22:40.48 | Josh_Borke | notice my foot in your ass?! |
| 22:40.51 | Josh_Borke | j/k :-D |
| 22:41.08 | |Anaral| | Cide on mine they're alligned perfectly too. |
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| 22:43.20 | Stanzilla | kvirc owns :) |
| 22:43.33 | Cide | it doesn't own if it doesn't align nicknames |
| 22:44.10 | |Anaral| | As I said, I haven't gotten there yet. It might. :p |
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| 22:44.55 | Cide | that doesn't help |
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| 22:48.32 | foxlit | Nastiest issues get reported just after you've package the last release of things :) |
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| 22:51.07 | |Cide| | ok |
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| 22:51.21 | |Cide| | wow, why'd it put pipes around my name |
| 22:51.39 | |Anaral| | Lol, I don't know |
| 22:51.57 | |Anaral| | You're font is now orange too. And I didn't do that. |
| 22:52.42 | NightHawkTheSane | I really hate pipes, brackets, or other useless characters around nicks. >< |
| 22:53.09 | |Anaral| | I don't mind the <> but the || is a little urksome. |
| 22:54.22 | NightHawkTheSane | well, the <> are t ypically added by irc programs itself, that doesnt bother me, as its NOT part of the nick, and usually adjustable |
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| 22:54.41 | kd3 | damn it! missed a bag o' crap on woot |
| 22:56.42 | |Cide| | bah |
| 22:56.45 | |Cide| | this font isn't monospaced |
| 22:59.07 | |Cide| | no |
| 22:59.19 | Hirsute | No? |
| 22:59.27 | |Cide| | this doesn't have nick alignment |
| 22:59.31 | Hirsute | Aaah. |
| 22:59.32 | |Cide| | worthless |
| 22:59.47 | |Cide| | someone else type something |
| 22:59.52 | Hirsute | What? |
| 22:59.54 | kd3 | something |
| 22:59.57 | |Cide| | ok |
| 22:59.59 | Hirsute | anything? |
| 23:00.06 | |Cide| | this hash-coloring is subpar too :P |
| 23:00.25 | |Cide| | or maybe I'm just picky |
| 23:00.31 | NightHawkTheSane | probably both |
| 23:00.52 | |Cide| | newp |
| 23:00.53 | |Cide| | back to xchat |
| 23:00.59 | Cide | hi |
| 23:01.12 | Cide | now I can gladly say kvirc sucks |
| 23:01.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | any linux nerds in the house at the moment? :o |
| 23:01.51 | kd3 | hm? |
| 23:01.53 | Cide | yes and no |
| 23:02.00 | foxlit | rm -fr / |
| 23:02.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | my screen resolution thing in ubuntu is broked :( |
| 23:02.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's stuck on some weird 576x384 resolution or something |
| 23:02.28 | Cide | -fr? you always type it -rf! |
| 23:02.53 | Dashkal | Cide: and here I thought I was the only one thinking that... |
| 23:02.57 | kd3 | <ctrl>+<alt>+<numpad +> should change if you're on single resolution and those keybinds still work |
| 23:03.09 | Cide | Dashkal: lol |
| 23:03.47 | Cide | "great minds think alike" comes to mind |
| 23:03.50 | kd3 | s/resolution/monitor/ |
| 23:04.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | kd3 it seems as though my xorg file decided it only liked that one resolution |
| 23:04.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | then again this is on a ps3 |
| 23:04.17 | Cide | but if you look around, it's easy to see that idiots think alike as well |
| 23:04.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | so you know |
| 23:04.31 | Cide | so if you think alike, there's really nothing separating you from the idiots |
| 23:04.43 | Dashkal | not really :p |
| 23:04.59 | kd3 | oh, ps3? dunno there. native tv resolution is 640x480 iirc. you'll want to mess with the xorg.conf file to get a better resolution then |
| 23:05.11 | Dashkal | wait, if "great minds think alike" and "fools seldom differ"... does that mean the average are the only unique ones? |
| 23:05.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | kd3, any tips? |
| 23:05.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | how would i add, say, 1920x1080 |
| 23:06.04 | kd3 | are you plugged in to a tv or to a monitor? |
| 23:06.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | 1080p projector :p |
| 23:06.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | so closer to a monitor |
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| 23:07.16 | kd3 | open up xorg.conf, look for the resolution line in a <display> section, change it to something that works for you |
| 23:07.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay |
| 23:07.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | also |
| 23:07.30 | kd3 | if you're actually in X right now, try using whatever ubuntu uses to mess with the gui? |
| 23:07.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have |
| 23:07.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | it seems crashy |
| 23:07.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | also what's the comand for getting libraries and stuff again |
| 23:07.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm new to this stuff :[ |
| 23:08.08 | kd3 | getting libraries and stuff? what are you looking for? |
| 23:08.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | because this isn't installing through ubuntu's gui |
| 23:08.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 23:08.20 | kd3 | apt-get install <program> |
| 23:08.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i uninstalled the screens and graphics program because it was crashing |
| 23:08.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | thanks |
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| 23:08.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i forgot the install part |
| 23:10.02 | |Anaral| | It lies, I'm here |
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| 23:10.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not seeing a display section, kd3 |
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| 23:13.27 | kd3 | bah, "Screen" |
| 23:14.03 | Cide | see, this is why I want to run windows :P |
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| 23:15.02 | Dashkal | uh huh, cause comparing windows on a PC to linux on a console is fair :p |
| 23:15.19 | Cide | linux is linux, is it not? |
| 23:15.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | not ps3ubuntu |
| 23:15.33 | Dashkal | ^^ |
| 23:15.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's very hacked together and is barely ubuntu |
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| 23:15.37 | Cide | ah |
| 23:15.46 | Dashkal | Real Ubuntu Hardy Heron ran out of the box for me |
| 23:15.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's very beta and against what ubuntu is about honestly |
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| 23:15.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it's fun to mess with |
| 23:16.07 | Cide | the real question is "why" :P |
| 23:16.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | kd3: can you give me an example line with resolutions in it? |
| 23:16.18 | Dashkal | "Because I can" |
| 23:16.23 | Pizik | whhy clcimb a mountain ;o) |
| 23:16.28 | Pizik | *climb |
| 23:16.33 | Cide | yep |
| 23:16.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | Cide: 80gb hard drive that i can stow away 10 to fuck around with |
| 23:16.36 | Cide | I'd never do that |
| 23:16.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | and not have to worry about corrupting windows partitions or anything |
| 23:16.54 | Cide | Mr_Rabies2: if you're bored, go for it :) |
| 23:17.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | mine just has Generic Monitor Video Card Screen, etc |
| 23:17.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | nothing about resolutions under screen |
| 23:17.45 | Pizik | f you dont want to corrupt windows partitions the simple answer is just not to use ubuntu |
| 23:18.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | well i'm using it on a ps3 on its own little hidden partition |
| 23:18.11 | kd3 | nah, I've got the nvidia drivers messing with that. here's an early result for 'xorg.conf ubuntu ps3', though: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=530184 |
| 23:19.58 | foxlit | vanishing eu forums, qq |
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| 23:23.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | wee |
| 23:23.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i messed with kboot |
| 23:23.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | lets see if i bricked it |
| 23:23.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wonder if i did it right |
| 23:24.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | it told me not enough permissions to edit the .conf so i went into terminal and did sudo gedit /etc/kboot.conf |
| 23:24.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've got no clue what i'm doing |
| 23:24.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | but hey, it seems to be working |
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| 23:26.34 | Dashkal | sudo + no clue... |
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| 23:28.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | thanks kd3, seems to be working perfectly |
| 23:29.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | i couldn't run the installer in the right resolution so i ran it in 480p |
| 23:29.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | it choked the ps2's available resources up |
| 23:29.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 23:29.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | ps3 |
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| 23:54.18 | Cide | hm? |
| 23:54.37 | foxlit | I may be composing a great work of fiction, wanted a slight confirmation |
| 23:54.49 | DARKGuy | ? |
| 23:54.55 | foxlit | CTRA protocols are still used by virtually everything? |
| 23:55.07 | Cide | no idea |
| 23:55.08 | Cide | maybe? |
| 23:55.32 | Cide | unless ora2 or 3 or whatever changed them, probably |
| 23:56.30 | DARKGuy | haha, boomkins are for lulz -> http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1663/wowscrnshot062008171031dm7.jpg |
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