| 00:01.18 | Thunder_Child | stargat3sg1 |
| 00:01.30 | Thunder_Child | stupid focus |
| 00:01.30 | sacarasc | O_o |
| 00:01.48 | sacarasc | think we got Thunder_Child's password for something... |
| 00:02.00 | Thunder_Child | ya, good luck figureing out what |
| 00:02.11 | Thunder_Child | and no it's not irc |
| 00:02.19 | sacarasc | no, it's not |
| 00:02.19 | Thunder_Child | though i have done that before to |
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| 00:19.50 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: nice pw, though. ;) |
| 00:20.57 | Thunder_Child | ty |
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| 00:32.40 | Shirik | (20:32:32) - [notice from NickServ]: Invalid password for Thunder_Child. |
| 00:32.41 | Shirik | :( |
| 00:32.57 | Thunder_Child | we already went over this Shirik |
| 00:33.02 | Shirik | I know |
| 00:33.05 | Shirik | but I thought you lied |
| 00:33.25 | Thunder_Child | besides, i have already typed my IRC pw in here before |
| 00:33.40 | NightHawkTheSane | ...to the logs! |
| 00:33.50 | Thunder_Child | go back...~1 year |
| 00:33.59 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe, feh, i'm far to lazy to care. |
| 00:33.59 | Thunder_Child | oh, and it's been changed |
| 00:34.52 | Shirik | not as bad as the big problem nobody ever found |
| 00:35.03 | Shirik | the wowi updater? |
| 00:35.08 | Shirik | I accidentally included the .svn folder with it |
| 00:35.15 | NightHawkTheSane | hah |
| 00:35.17 | kd3 | lol |
| 00:35.18 | Shirik | in which is stored my svn and ssh password |
| 00:35.27 | Shirik | I changed that a few weeks later when I realized it >.> |
| 00:37.32 | JoshBorke | heh |
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| 00:49.20 | Tuller | Funkeh`: smash! :) |
| 00:49.36 | Funkeh` | users piss me off |
| 00:50.07 | Funkeh` | It was fun before tbc and everyone used discord for it's features and just stfu |
| 00:51.07 | Tuller | damn ace people :P |
| 00:51.26 | Funkeh` | It's all memory this and cpu that now like they know what they're talking about, and maybe some people are in the mood, but I'm not in the mod to teach every user >> |
| 00:51.31 | Funkeh` | yeah i blame ace! |
| 00:51.57 | Funkeh` | actually i blame loz's lazyness |
| 00:52.08 | Dashkal | Don't let your addons use more than 3 megs of standing memory or your framzes might fall below 80 fps on your shiny lcd monitor! |
| 00:53.16 | Kaso | i love the screenshot i have somewhere of an addon using 100 and something meg of ram and my fps still over 100 |
| 00:53.27 | Funkeh` | i partially blame devs also though |
| 00:53.40 | starlon | or addons lowering your latency? |
| 00:53.56 | Funkeh` | for putting things in feature lists like: better for it's low memory |
| 00:54.09 | Kaso | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/lntkaos/memory.jpg |
| 00:54.11 | Kaso | there we go |
| 00:54.15 | Funkeh` | then users start thinking that's what makes addons good etc |
| 00:54.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Kaso: EIGHT FPS LOST. FAIL. |
| 00:54.56 | Funkeh` | i doubt that's from the memory usage |
| 00:54.57 | Tuller | I did advertise bongos as being lower on resources initially :P |
| 00:54.58 | Kaso | it was jittering like +/- 10fps |
| 00:55.01 | Funkeh` | probably the function calls |
| 00:55.22 | hi11ie | is there any way to programmatically tell that ~ is SHIFT-` in lua or wow? |
| 00:55.41 | Tuller | yep, still in the main description for 2 |
| 00:55.41 | Dashkal | Serious question: I've heard it suggested that using large amounts of static ram does slow things down due to slowing down GC cycles. Any truth to that or is the lua GC able to cope with that? |
| 00:55.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes, but you have to change a nonstandard key binding to do so |
| 00:55.59 | Tuller | I switched to "lightweight" with 3 |
| 00:56.02 | Funkeh` | Dashkal, depends how mch of it is garbage |
| 00:56.02 | hi11ie | ScytheBlade1: nonstandard? |
| 00:56.14 | Funkeh` | if there is tons of garbage = more to collect |
| 00:56.20 | ScytheBlade1 | hi11ie: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetConsoleKey |
| 00:56.30 | Dashkal | Funkeh`: the suggestion was that it would take longer to clean out the same ammount of garbage if there was more memory used and all else equal |
| 00:57.01 | Dashkal | so to contrive an example, it would take longer to clean out 100 empty tables if you already had 100 megs of static memory used |
| 00:57.50 | Funkeh` | i don't think you could really notice that on a human side |
| 00:58.14 | Funkeh` | <5 seconds i'd say to process 100mb |
| 00:58.48 | Funkeh` | but logically there is truth in that |
| 00:58.55 | Funkeh` | since you're basically searching more data |
| 00:59.12 | Dashkal | *nods* |
| 00:59.20 | hi11ie | ScytheBlade1: i basically have a function that happens when you press `/~ when the editbox is open.. but i want to set the keybinding for that (which is configurable by the user) but i can't set the binding to ~, it has to be SHIFT-`, but the only thing you can grab with the editbox is OnChar, and it won't detect any modifiers (i've tried OnKeyDown, OnKeyUp, PrayToGod, pretty much everything :D doesn't work) |
| 00:59.25 | Dashkal | Some GC algorithms can cope better with this situation than others, so I was curious about how wow handled it |
| 01:00.10 | ScytheBlade1 | hi11ie: you need to change the default console key before it'll work properly (iirc) |
| 01:00.13 | hi11ie | so say the user sets it to !, i need to be able to convert ! to SHIFT-1 .. somehow, or maybe find another way |
| 01:00.36 | hi11ie | ScytheBlade1: the binding works, that's not the problem |
| 01:01.03 | hi11ie | i don't have -console enabled either. but.. i guess that's somethin else i gotta do, altho how many ppl use the console? |
| 01:01.36 | ScytheBlade1 | very very few if any, but iirc it still breaks the stock bindings |
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| 01:06.15 | hi11ie | i have basically char1 which is set to `, and char2 which is set to ~.. but can be changed by the user, when i set the key binding it sees ` and ~ as the same char. the user can change char2 to whatever he wants, and i have to be able to use SetBinding() to set it to the right thing (ie. SHIFT-1 in the case of !, SHIFT-` in case of ~) |
| 01:10.28 | Tekkub | okey, PvPtards, need a lil help |
| 01:10.41 | Tekkub | what gear is currently available with what points? |
| 01:10.49 | Tekkub | S3 and S2 with arena, S1 with honor? |
| 01:11.02 | Tekkub | (ignoring items bought with PvE tokens) |
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| 01:12.29 | Lukian | Tekkub, that's right for 7 more days |
| 01:12.48 | Tekkub | there's nothing else you can buy? what are these non-set pieces? |
| 01:13.13 | Lukian | the non-set epics are bracers, belt and boots |
| 01:13.24 | Lukian | vindicator's / veteran's atm (until S4) |
| 01:13.37 | Tekkub | and those are S1 since they're honor? |
| 01:13.56 | Lukian | they are pvp non-set epics, they aren't really tied to a season |
| 01:14.25 | Tekkub | but they'll change with S4 or not? |
| 01:14.55 | Lukian | vindicator's (assuming that's the higher priced one) will become cheaper and guardian's will be added |
| 01:15.12 | Lukian | they will be purchased with honour, but some pieces will have a team rating requirement |
| 01:15.15 | Tekkub | so they are tied to a season, they're just not part of the set bonus? |
| 01:15.17 | Lukian | (and personal) |
| 01:15.50 | Lukian | Guardian's is, I'm unsure about the previous two (or was there 3?) |
| 01:15.53 | Tekkub | I'm trying to get the labels right on these, I can get the prices just fine |
| 01:16.01 | Tekkub | or should I net even label the non-set pieces? |
| 01:16.23 | Lukian | What are you doing exactly? :) |
| 01:16.31 | Tekkub | The vendor in Orgy has Vindicator's boots/belt/bracers... |
| 01:16.39 | Tekkub | Vind neck |
| 01:16.53 | Lukian | oh yeah, there's neck and rings too |
| 01:16.56 | Tekkub | vetran ring, battlemaster trinkets |
| 01:17.09 | Lukian | trinkets are fixed, they don't belong to any season |
| 01:17.14 | Tekkub | I'm labeling items in Engravings |
| 01:17.23 | Tekkub | like "Season 3" "Tier 5" |
| 01:17.42 | Tekkub | and I don't know what to do about the non-set honor rewards |
| 01:17.45 | Lukian | atlasloot just labels them as "pvp non-set epics" if that's any help XD |
| 01:17.55 | Tekkub | I don't PvP so this whole system is like, overly complex |
| 01:18.09 | Gngsk | it's pretty simple |
| 01:18.16 | Tekkub | but if they change with the seasons, should I not label them with a season? |
| 01:18.20 | Gngsk | the s1 non set stuff is rare with no name |
| 01:18.31 | Gngsk | then they added veteran's for s2, vindicator's for s3 |
| 01:18.48 | Tekkub | I mean, you can buy em with PvE tokens... and those lay out in distinct sets |
| 01:19.16 | Tekkub | okey, so Vet's == "S2 Non-set", Vind = "S3 Non-set"? |
| 01:19.34 | Lukian | that'd probably be ok :) |
| 01:19.35 | Tekkub | the S1 Non-set items are not obtainable at all, right, even with PvE tokens? |
| 01:19.44 | Gngsk | pretty sure, i can double check though |
| 01:19.56 | Tekkub | what was that set's name? |
| 01:20.01 | Lukian | Tekkub, yeah they are removed from the game |
| 01:20.25 | Gngsk | tekkub, http://www.wowhead.com/?search=band+of+dominance#items:0-2+1 |
| 01:20.26 | Tekkub | well, not removed just not obtainable.. someone out there probably still has the items... right? |
| 01:20.33 | Gngsk | sorted by ilvl so you can tell which season they're from |
| 01:20.47 | Lukian | General's and Marshal's (horde/alliance) |
| 01:20.50 | Gngsk | ignore the sin'dorei one of course it's a pve item |
| 01:20.51 | Lukian | is that right? |
| 01:20.52 | Tekkub | oh they had no title at all, Icee |
| 01:21.50 | Tekkub | Band of Dominance is still on the PvP vendor here |
| 01:22.55 | kd3 | tek; http://www.wowwiki.com/Cost_of_Arena_rewards_by_season#See_also |
| 01:23.09 | Tekkub | PvP breaks my brain... |
| 01:23.51 | Tekkub | that wiki page doesn't list the extras at all in S1 |
| 01:24.00 | kd3 | click on the s1 link then? |
| 01:24.27 | Tekkub | same, only lists the proper sets |
| 01:24.43 | Tekkub | should I just say fuck S1? |
| 01:24.53 | kd3 | "The neck, wrist, waist, feet, finger armor and trinkets from arena season 1 are no longer available for purchase" |
| 01:25.06 | Tekkub | ah, then yes, I should |
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| 01:26.08 | Tekkub | okey, that cost-by-season page makes it rather clear what's what |
| 01:26.17 | Tekkub | I'll run with that |
| 01:26.31 | kd3 | hey, my handiwork has found a use |
| 01:26.48 | Lopeppeppy | kd3 rulesw |
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| 01:27.18 | Tekkub | lopsided penny: :P |
| 01:37.52 | Tekkub | okey, what about these "Battlemaster's" trinkets, those come in with a season? |
| 01:38.11 | NightHawkTheSane | no, they're just trinkets. |
| 01:38.26 | Tekkub | so they won't change with S4? |
| 01:38.35 | NightHawkTheSane | unlikely |
| 01:38.39 | Tekkub | kk |
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| 01:39.24 | Tekkub | this whole thing gives me brainpain |
| 01:43.05 | Fisker- | omg pyro update |
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| 02:24.03 | Legorol | I have a question about the Arena rewards to those who have more experience than me: |
| 02:24.34 | Legorol | When S4 starts and S2 items get moved to honor points, isn't it going to present a problem in terms of there being no shoulder items for arena points without rating requirement? |
| 02:25.04 | Legorol | In other words, if someone just plays Arena and doesn't farm BGs, and is bad at it, they won't be able to get any kind of shoulders. Is that correct? |
| 02:25.18 | kd3 | I'd say: "if you suck, no shoulders for j00" is the stance blizz intends to take |
| 02:27.22 | Legorol | So that breaks backwards compatibility. |
| 02:27.40 | Legorol | Or to put it another way: someone who intends to enter Arenas now (like me), has no way to get shoulders anymore? |
| 02:27.45 | Legorol | That's pretty disheartenit |
| 02:29.04 | Legorol | It doesn't have to be good, I had only realised this today, but if I'd known I'd have made a suggestion to keep Season 2 items available for Arena points as well. |
| 02:29.25 | Legorol | They can keep it expensive, they can do whatever they want, as long as you can get shoulders, from Arena only, as a bad player. |
| 02:29.48 | Thunder_Child | rewards for good players? |
| 02:29.54 | Legorol | Those can be uber |
| 02:29.59 | Legorol | I don't mind if the shoulders you can get are crap. |
| 02:30.16 | Thunder_Child | then get badge's |
| 02:30.23 | Thunder_Child | ~slay Fisker- |
| 02:30.23 | purl | ACTION brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, Fisker-!" apt lops off Fisker-'s head. |
| 02:30.25 | Legorol | those are not pvp shoulders. |
| 02:30.33 | Legorol | and you don't gain them via the Arena. |
| 02:30.41 | Thunder_Child | this i know |
| 02:30.49 | Legorol | What I'm trying to point out is that: you can no longer fill the shoulder slot with just Arena games, if you are bad at it. |
| 02:30.59 | Thunder_Child | but there you have shoulders |
| 02:31.14 | Legorol | Not from S4. |
| 02:31.40 | Legorol | S3 items get reduced in point cost and rating requirement, but they will still have a rating requirement. |
| 02:31.43 | Legorol | S2 is moving to honor. |
| 02:31.56 | Legorol | So there is no more rating requirement-less, arena points only shoulder item. |
| 02:32.25 | Fisker- | Thunder_Child i could just snap you in half |
| 02:32.32 | Thunder_Child | you wish Fisker- |
| 02:32.52 | Legorol | It's a real shame I didn't learn about this earlier. |
| 02:33.06 | Legorol | They could just set S2 items to have same price as S3 for all I care. |
| 02:33.16 | Legorol | As long as there is a (theoretically possible) option. |
| 02:33.24 | Fisker- | ok Thunder_Child :( |
| 02:34.12 | Legorol | Is there any other item in S3 other than shoulders that needs rating requirement? |
| 02:40.46 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7116417391&sid=1&pageNo=2#20 ITS Fx!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111 |
| 02:41.02 | Fisker- | i may just have to create a us account for that |
| 02:41.02 | Fisker- | :O |
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| 02:45.19 | Fisker- | it's some kind of Shirik |
| 02:45.31 | Lopeppeppy | The best kind |
| 02:45.49 | Fisker- | magelo |
| 02:46.42 | Lopeppeppy | Whatever |
| 02:46.47 | Fisker- | i did it! |
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| 02:54.00 | NightHawkTheSane | HAH.. google streetview car gets a ticket.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/damianspain/2584019149/sizes/l/in/set-72157605643949010/ |
| 02:58.48 | Yssaril | rofl |
| 03:02.35 | Fisker- | should've been a real joker and put it on the lens |
| 03:02.53 | Fisker- | what did he get a ticket for? :o |
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| 03:29.31 | Thunder_Child | ~whip Fisker- |
| 03:29.35 | purl | ACTION takes Fisker- outside to be thoroughly whipped by thunder_child |
| 03:30.03 | Fisker- | i disagree Thunder_Child |
| 03:30.14 | Thunder_Child | you cant, i win Fisker- |
| 03:30.21 | Fisker- | oh |
| 03:30.21 | Fisker- | ok |
| 03:30.25 | Fisker- | then i'll go to work :( |
| 03:30.28 | Fisker- | VICTORIOUS |
| 03:30.29 | Thunder_Child | have fun |
| 03:31.01 | Fisker- | and bai |
| 03:31.22 | Thunder_Child | ~bzfrag Fisker- |
| 03:31.23 | purl | ACTION destroys Fisker- with a guided missile |
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| 03:42.17 | NightHawkTheSane | heh. http://omoshiroipix.elblogdecarlos.com/pix-morph-ball-adquirida.html |
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| 04:34.09 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/5017025/notes-eat-honey-bee-vanilla-hagen-dazs-save-the-bees-from-your-cellphones |
| 04:35.49 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/5017016/kensington-sharecentral-spreads-usb-love-between-two-computers |
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| 04:38.20 | NightHawkTheSane | :o hmm.. i may have to get htat.. |
| 04:42.12 | Thunder_Child | i am assuming you mean the usb hub and not the icecream |
| 04:42.53 | NightHawkTheSane | ... >.> both, actually? |
| 04:43.04 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 04:43.08 | NightHawkTheSane | i meant the hub. ;) but I've had the ice cream, and it is QUITE good |
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| 04:57.38 | cog|away | must...resist... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7116277327&sid=1 |
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| 05:02.32 | cogwheel | hai |Jelly| |
| 05:02.32 | |Jelly| | Do it Cog! |
| 05:03.35 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5282318044&sid=1&pageNo=5#91 <<I wish I had seen this sooner... |
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| 05:31.31 | Thunder_Child | |Jelly|, that thread is so retarded it hurts my head to read it |
| 05:31.55 | Arrowmaster | yeah theres a reason i never goto the burning legion realm forums |
| 05:32.02 | Arrowmaster | my realm is fully of morons |
| 05:32.13 | Arrowmaster | s/fully/full/ |
| 05:33.27 | NightHawkTheSane | s/my realm/all realms/ |
| 05:33.40 | Arrowmaster | no burning legion is worst than most |
| 05:34.18 | Drundia | maybe you should try all realms? |
| 05:36.13 | |Jelly| | ~agree Arrowmaster |
| 05:36.14 | purl | ACTION forces Arrowmaster to agree with |jelly|. "Its no matter, |jelly| is always right Arrowmaster" |
| 05:36.20 | |Jelly| | Well ... you get the idea. lol |
| 05:37.24 | Arrowmaster | luckly nobody from my guild posts on the realm forums |
| 05:37.35 | |Jelly| | I hate when my guild does. |
| 05:37.59 | Arrowmaster | but were having attendance issues and recruitment sucks |
| 05:38.20 | |Jelly| | Everyone wants to pee vee pee. |
| 05:38.36 | Arrowmaster | i cant remember the last time we had a real pally in a raid and not an alt pally for hyjal |
| 05:40.38 | |Jelly| | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Burning+Legion&n=Paladinow and http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Burning+Legion&n=Ryleex are our two main paladins. |
| 05:40.47 | |Jelly| | The rest, for all intents and purposes are alts |
| 05:41.03 | Arrowmaster | we dont have any |
| 05:41.25 | |Jelly| | :-\ |
| 05:41.30 | Arrowmaster | and the recruits never fucking show up |
| 05:42.10 | |Jelly| | Idiotic question but any idea why? |
| 05:42.31 | Arrowmaster | because the server sucks |
| 05:42.32 | |Jelly| | I mean ... you're giving them the opportunity to do something that they probably wouldn't be able to otherwise. |
| 05:42.52 | |Jelly| | Truthfully, I want to transfer off pvp and onto a pve, but I've made so many friends here. |
| 05:42.55 | Arrowmaster | actually we had a pally recruit in bt this week |
| 05:43.14 | |Jelly| | I just *HATE* doing dailies and the like. I almost feel like I have to respec to do /anything/ aside from raid. |
| 05:43.15 | Arrowmaster | gave him t6 shoulders and either pants or chest on first night |
| 05:43.34 | |Jelly| | Nice |
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| 06:00.07 | CroX | Is it possible to have a cast sequence with multiple commands in one "instance"? |
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| 06:01.25 | CroX | As a hunter, I wish to mark/attack/petattack on one click. And then, if clicked again, I wish to do intimidation, then bestial wrath and then rapid fire. For example. |
| 06:05.12 | Corrodias | hmm |
| 06:05.24 | Corrodias | i have never tried |
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| 06:12.27 | Drundia | CroX, it is possible to create such behavior. |
| 06:12.48 | CroX | Drundia: Not with standard macros, no? |
| 06:15.44 | CroX | Drundia: Or what do you mean with "such behavior"? |
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| 06:16.41 | Drundia | i'm not sure about standard macros |
| 06:16.48 | Drundia | but in general it is possible |
| 06:17.31 | cogwheel | CroX: check out my addon, MacroSequence |
| 06:17.47 | cogwheel | that's exactly what it was designed to do :) |
| 06:17.50 | CroX | cogwheel: Thanks! I'll do that. Got an URL for it? |
| 06:17.59 | cogwheel | no but it's on wowinterface.com |
| 06:18.11 | cogwheel | (i could get one, but no faster than you :P ) |
| 06:18.27 | CroX | Heh. Righto, I'll check it out. :) |
| 06:19.01 | cogwheel | Take a look at the comments on the page if you need help with the syntax... /me needs sleep |
| 06:19.13 | CroX | Trying to keep the UI minimalistic, uncluttered and unobtrusive doesn't allow for much actionbars. |
| 06:19.50 | cog|sleep | a lot of people bind keys directly to macros/spells/items which bypasses the action bars entirely |
| 06:20.03 | Thunder_Child | meh, it isnt a UI unless you cant see any part of the 3D world |
| 06:20.20 | cog|sleep | the 3d world is part of the UI imo |
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| 06:20.34 | cog|sleep | you need at least a pixel so you can click on npcs and such ;) |
| 06:20.35 | Thunder_Child | no, you cant affect the 3D world |
| 06:21.02 | Drundia | you can do anything you want with WorldFrame |
| 06:21.11 | cog|sleep | 4rl |
| 06:21.14 | Thunder_Child | ~wake cog|sleep |
| 06:21.16 | purl | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on cog|sleep and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 06:21.22 | cog|sleep | NO U! |
| 06:21.25 | Thunder_Child | ok |
| 06:21.28 | cog|sleep | ~lart purl |
| 06:21.28 | purl | does a little 'dpkg -P cog|sleep' action |
| 06:21.41 | Thunder_Child | purl got smart |
| 06:23.06 | cog|sleep | but... in a sense, isn't that exactly what i've wanted? |
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| 07:32.58 | Thunder_Child | i thought firefox was being released today |
| 07:33.26 | zenzio | the day is still young |
| 07:33.27 | Thunder_Child | oh...10 am...damit |
| 07:33.53 | Thunder_Child | heh, there is a pledge |
| 07:36.30 | Thunder_Child | uh, whats a wobble board? |
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| 08:05.05 | batrick | WoW patched that Lua unpack bug I found, but in some odd way |
| 08:05.18 | batrick | I can't figure out what they did |
| 08:05.25 | Elkano | hmm? |
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| 08:31.36 | Hapnintwo | Hi |
| 08:32.54 | Cairenn | hi |
| 08:34.24 | Drundia | yo |
| 08:35.00 | Elkano | morning Cairenn :) |
| 08:35.58 | Cairenn | how goes Elkano? |
| 08:36.06 | Thunder_Child | morning requires sleep Elkano |
| 08:36.10 | Thunder_Child | ish |
| 08:36.29 | Cairenn | sleep? what is this thing you speak of? |
| 08:37.13 | Thunder_Child | ~wiki sleep |
| 08:37.35 | Thunder_Child | geeze purl, take longer why dont you |
| 08:37.48 | nevcairiel | she was demontrating sleep |
| 08:38.04 | nevcairiel | *demonstrating |
| 08:38.07 | Thunder_Child | she? purl? |
| 08:38.21 | nevcairiel | yeah, purl is a she :P |
| 08:38.35 | Cairenn | purl tends to be confused about her gender, but yes, she's female |
| 08:38.48 | Drundia | how do you know it? |
| 08:39.04 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn was at purls birth |
| 08:39.10 | Cairenn | not |
| 08:39.25 | Cairenn | because tim said she's a girl :p |
| 08:39.29 | Drundia | purl, are you female? |
| 08:39.32 | Drundia | ha |
| 08:39.36 | Drundia | she doesn't answer :( |
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| 08:39.51 | Drundia | ~gender |
| 08:39.52 | purl | I'm sexless |
| 08:39.56 | Drundia | ha! |
| 08:39.57 | Thunder_Child | girl or woman? cuse some of the this she knows is...uhhh...iffy |
| 08:40.01 | Drundia | sexless! |
| 08:40.07 | Thunder_Child | ~sex |
| 08:40.08 | purl | updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep, or super extractor, http://sf.net/projects/sex/ |
| 08:40.10 | Cairenn | do it again :p |
| 08:40.34 | Cairenn | Drundia: ^^ |
| 08:40.42 | Elkano | ~asl |
| 08:40.42 | purl | Old enough, yes please, my place. |
| 08:40.52 | Thunder_Child | ~gender |
| 08:40.53 | purl | I'm not sure |
| 08:41.16 | Thunder_Child | sorry Drundia, you were taking a while and i was curious |
| 08:41.31 | Drundia | "Someone already said that 7 seconds ago" :( |
| 08:41.42 | Cairenn | ~gender |
| 08:41.43 | purl | I'm gay |
| 08:41.46 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 08:41.48 | Cairenn | see? |
| 08:41.50 | Cairenn | confused |
| 08:41.55 | Thunder_Child | ~literal gender |
| 08:41.56 | purl | "gender" is "<reply> I'm (gay|lesbian|female|sexless|male|hermaphroditic|pregnant|not sure)" |
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| 08:42.06 | Thunder_Child | oh my |
| 08:42.13 | nevcairiel | pregnant is a gender? |
| 08:42.27 | Thunder_Child | any more than sexless is |
| 08:42.41 | Drundia | ~literal sex |
| 08:42.42 | purl | "sex" is "<reply> updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep, or super extractor, http://sf.net/projects/sex/" |
| 08:43.48 | Drundia | super extractor... |
| 08:45.23 | Kalroth | hot |
| 08:45.49 | Drundia | i like |
| 08:45.53 | Drundia | ~literal age |
| 08:45.54 | purl | "age" is "<reply> I'm ((1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|)(0|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9) years old|immortal|just born)." |
| 08:46.54 | Kalroth | ~age |
| 08:46.54 | purl | I'm just born. |
| 08:48.45 | Thunder_Child | ~crazy |
| 08:48.46 | purl | you so cuhraaazy, thunder_child |
| 08:51.13 | Diskmaster | ~explodeworld |
| 08:51.24 | Cairenn | I think I'm going to go try that sleep thing you guys were talking about |
| 08:51.40 | Thunder_Child | good joke Cairenn|afk |
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| 08:51.48 | Thunder_Child | keep em coming |
| 08:52.57 | Thunder_Child | ~explode |
| 08:52.58 | purl | BOOOM |
| 08:53.23 | Elkano | ~42 |
| 08:53.23 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, 42 is the answer to life the universe and everything, see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/the_answer_to_life,_the_universe,_and_everything |
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| 08:59.44 | Thunder_Child | ~earth |
| 08:59.45 | purl | it has been said that earth is mostly harmless, or the 3rd rock from the sun |
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| 09:14.08 | Thunder_Child | ~sky |
| 09:14.09 | purl | well, sky is blue because hash likes it that way |
| 09:14.17 | Thunder_Child | ~factinfo sky |
| 09:14.17 | purl | sky -- it has been requested 4 times, last by Thunder_Child, 8s ago. |
| 09:14.58 | Thunder_Child | ~Thunder_Child |
| 09:14.58 | purl | Thunder_Child is an asshole |
| 09:16.46 | Drundia | ha |
| 09:20.43 | Drundia | ~sun |
| 09:20.44 | purl | well, sun is starting to "sneak" it's way towards the horizon... a mass of incandescent gas, a gigantic nuclear furnace |
| 09:21.09 | Thunder_Child | mmm...tmbg |
| 09:21.12 | Drundia | ~moon |
| 09:21.26 | MoonWolf | no entry |
| 09:22.34 | Thunder_Child | ~MoonWolf |
| 09:22.38 | Thunder_Child | bah |
| 09:22.47 | MoonWolf | ~emulate moonwolf |
| 09:22.47 | purl | I hate you, I hate you, I hate you, Call me! |
| 09:22.54 | MoonWolf | still there |
| 09:22.57 | Thunder_Child | ~emulate Thunder_Child |
| 09:22.58 | purl | People likeyou are the reason people like me needmedication |
| 09:23.10 | Thunder_Child | stupid lack of space |
| 09:23.40 | Drundia | ~mars |
| 09:23.40 | purl | Java-based network services status monitor. URL: http://www.altara.org/mars.html |
| 09:23.47 | Drundia | ~venus |
| 09:24.52 | Thunder_Child | ah, all fixed |
| 09:24.56 | Thunder_Child | ~emulate Thunder_Child |
| 09:24.56 | purl | to save time, let's just assume i know everything |
| 09:25.41 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* well that got randomed out of the park |
| 09:31.14 | Drundia | i like 5th one |
| 09:36.06 | Thunder_Child | 5th what? |
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| 09:52.18 | Drundia | the one where you could become anything |
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| 10:40.51 | cladhaire | Anyone here going to WWI? |
| 10:40.58 | cladhaire | or am i going to be there by my lonesone =( |
| 10:41.08 | Kalroth | world war 1? |
| 10:41.25 | cladhaire | Blizzard's WorldWide Invitational 2008 in Paris |
| 10:41.34 | Kalroth | But that's in France :( |
| 10:41.43 | Kalroth | So there'll be frenchies there |
| 10:41.51 | cladhaire | i know, i've had to overlook that |
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| 10:44.26 | Elkano | was thinking about heading there but a look on my balance told me to not investigate further |
| 10:46.41 | cladhaire | I think it'll be fun |
| 10:46.44 | cladhaire | but absurdly UI light |
| 10:46.47 | cladhaire | compared to BlizzCon |
| 10:46.49 | cladhaire | but i definitely can't make that |
| 10:50.52 | nevcairiel | the money thing kinda blocked me too |
| 10:52.09 | nevcairiel | guess i'll have to go back to youtube video streams of it :p |
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| 11:05.45 | Wraanger | heyaz all |
| 11:11.09 | nevcairiel | cladhaire: how much does creating a colony cost exactly? I only read "several resources including 12000 gold" everywhere .. i try to figure out how many people i can set to money-duty to make that faster .. but dont want to sit there with not enough building material left =P |
| 11:13.05 | cladhaire | 40 people |
| 11:13.07 | cladhaire | 12,000 gold |
| 11:13.10 | cladhaire | 1250 wood |
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| 11:13.16 | cladhaire | and a palace |
| 11:13.23 | cladhaire | when you do, you'll need to build a governors mansion |
| 11:13.23 | nevcairiel | yeah i got that palace part |
| 11:15.43 | nevcairiel | still a few hours of research left until i can setup my palace |
| 11:15.49 | nevcairiel | and hopefully get my first colony then :) |
| 11:17.33 | cladhaire | nice |
| 11:17.37 | cladhaire | feel free to colonize down by me :P |
| 11:17.48 | cladhaire | or you can stay where you are :P |
| 11:18.09 | nevcairiel | maybe later, first i just need some wine island, and there is one next to me including the wine wonder |
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| 11:38.55 | zenzio | can't use mysqli, must use pdo_mysql; running MySQL 4.0.20, PHP 5.1.2 (cause they can't upgrade glibc) |
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| 11:41.21 | Drundia | cladhaire, nevcairiel, what were you talking about? it sounds so interesting... |
| 11:41.32 | nevcairiel | ikariam.com |
| 11:43.40 | hiflyer | was fun for 2 weeks and then got sooo bored |
| 11:45.07 | Drundia | another gameforge game that gets progressively more boring? |
| 11:45.16 | hiflyer | for the UNIT_COMBAT event, what values can action and descriptor have? |
| 11:45.40 | Drundia | i played ogame for like 2 years |
| 11:46.29 | cladhaire | lol |
| 11:47.29 | Drundia | yes, that was long and boring |
| 11:48.32 | Drundia | anyone who could say if ikariam by some chance less boring? :) |
| 11:49.22 | nevcairiel | i dunno, i only started a week ago |
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| 12:24.42 | Shirik | lol |
| 12:24.55 | Shirik | I installed Microsoft's "Genuine Validation" plugin for Firefox |
| 12:24.59 | Shirik | since they make you do it to download stuff |
| 12:25.09 | Shirik | so I continue on and try to validate, and Firefox crashes |
| 12:25.11 | Shirik | intentional? |
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| 12:32.15 | zenzio | nope, the validation plugin has worked fine for me for ages in Firefox |
| 12:38.10 | nevcairiel | i just use IE if i need something from a validated ms page |
| 12:39.02 | Shirik | zenzio: I think it's our proxy :) |
| 12:39.12 | Shirik | it doesn't crash now but it refuses to do anything |
| 12:47.02 | Funkeh` | omg? |
| 12:47.15 | Funkeh` | microsoft allowing somethig other than IE to use windows update? |
| 12:47.21 | Funkeh` | :o |
| 12:47.46 | Shirik | not windows update |
| 12:47.51 | Shirik | download.microsoft.com |
| 12:48.43 | nevcairiel | they would, if Firefox would support ActiveX |
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| 12:49.46 | Funkeh` | Shirik, oh right |
| 12:50.48 | nevcairiel | for 5 days no update for the windows defender definitions |
| 12:50.51 | nevcairiel | did MS burn down? |
| 12:50.51 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 12:55.51 | Drundia | hopefully yes |
| 12:56.13 | Drundia | but everyone who knows it is celebrating so didn't tell anyone yet |
| 13:01.17 | Funkeh` | Shirik, wtb file approval ;p |
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| 13:01.51 | Shirik | fail |
| 13:01.54 | Shirik | while I'm at work too |
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| 13:03.49 | Shirik | Funkeh`: done |
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| 13:03.51 | Funkeh` | thanks :) |
| 13:04.03 | Shirik | I love addons that have like 3 files in them |
| 13:04.06 | Shirik | makes it so much easier to review |
| 13:04.12 | Shirik | instead of 50 million |
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| 13:05.23 | Funkeh` | lol |
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| 14:16.18 | cncfanatics | hello ppl |
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| 15:25.35 | Shirik | well this is odd |
| 15:25.40 | Shirik | warning C4731: '`anonymous namespace'::buildPointList' : frame pointer register 'ebx' modified by inline assembly code |
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| 15:25.47 | Shirik | I wonder why the compiler's using ebx as the frame pointer... |
| 15:26.34 | zenzelezz | "ebx is used by the compiler to keep track of aligned variables (stack aligned to 8 or 16 bytes). |
| 15:26.34 | zenzelezz | This is commonly used when declaring local variables with __declspec(align) and/or _m64/_m128 data types." |
| 15:27.10 | Shirik | I fail |
| 15:27.18 | Shirik | I knew that ^ but it shouldn't be true for static variables |
| 15:27.29 | Shirik | but I used my macro "RELEASESTATIC" which isn't static in debug builds >.> |
| 15:27.59 | Shirik | but thanks zenzelezz |
| 15:28.15 | zenzelezz | your answers are usually within the top 5 results on Google :-o |
| 15:28.30 | Shirik | yeah but I just kinda think out loud before going to google :P |
| 15:29.00 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 15:29.14 | zenzelezz | isn't the standard VS08 cheap anyway? |
| 15:29.15 | Shirik | convince your boss to get you an MSDN subscription |
| 15:29.27 | Fisker- | Shirik |
| 15:29.33 | Fisker- | touched team system's unittesting? |
| 15:29.40 | cog|work | zenzelezz: nothing's cheap now that i own a house :( |
| 15:29.47 | cog|work | plus i want pro :P |
| 15:29.47 | Shirik | nope, but I want to see it |
| 15:29.49 | Shirik | is it good? |
| 15:29.54 | Fisker- | it's set sail for fail |
| 15:30.02 | Shirik | Pro is like $700 or so, MSDN pro is $1200 |
| 15:30.04 | Shirik | something like that |
| 15:30.05 | zenzelezz | cog|work: I meant if your boss is buying it. Why do you need pro? |
| 15:30.05 | Fisker- | i wanted to check if 2 objects are the same ;_; |
| 15:30.12 | Fisker- | and it wouldn't d oit |
| 15:30.15 | Fisker- | do it* |
| 15:30.15 | zenzelezz | the standard has the optimizing compiler anyway IIRC |
| 15:30.23 | Shirik | that was my justification for getting MSDN, since I was already paying $700 |
| 15:30.30 | zenzelezz | cog|work: true |
| 15:30.33 | Fisker- | so then i went like if (obj1 == obj2) and then the same assert, and it worked |
| 15:30.34 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 15:30.36 | zenzelezz | but still, what extras does Pro have? |
| 15:31.12 | Fisker- | got visual studio team system for free hoho |
| 15:31.33 | cog|work | zenzelezz: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/products/cc149003.aspx |
| 15:32.12 | Shirik | lol |
| 15:32.23 | Shirik | also, screw the optimizer! |
| 15:32.37 | zenzelezz | Shirik: right... |
| 15:32.39 | cog|work | The office integration would be particularly handy here |
| 15:32.45 | Shirik | it missed two big things :( |
| 15:32.48 | zenzelezz | cog|work: I see |
| 15:32.49 | Shirik | Obviously I don't expect it to hit them |
| 15:32.52 | cog|work | since we're (sadly) heavily entrenched in MS |
| 15:32.55 | Shirik | but still :P |
| 15:33.06 | Shirik | It's a pretty complex thing to optimize |
| 15:33.59 | Fisker- | what office integration? |
| 15:34.00 | cog|work | remote debugging too |
| 15:34.14 | cog|work | Fisker-: pro comes with tools for writing office plugins |
| 15:34.18 | cog|work | etc. |
| 15:34.20 | Fisker- | ah |
| 15:34.22 | Shirik | remote debugging is huge to me |
| 15:34.24 | Fisker- | i was stupid btw |
| 15:34.34 | Shirik | considering a lot of what I do is embedded (though I haven't touched that yet) |
| 15:34.35 | zenzelezz | yeah, seems to be mostly a few debugging aspects that are of interest to me in Pro vs. Standard, but none of them are important for a hobby basis (as I code) |
| 15:34.38 | Fisker- | They apparently added auto-formating of source code to office 2007 |
| 15:34.44 | nevcairiel | I has pro! but i cannot write commercial software with it =P |
| 15:34.57 | Fisker- | I've been looking for a plugin that does that for some days now |
| 15:34.58 | Fisker- | :o |
| 15:34.59 | zenzelezz | I hate auto-formatting, they never have my coding style |
| 15:35.12 | Fisker- | i mean for putting in documents :P |
| 15:35.14 | cog|work | pro also has a lot more database features |
| 15:35.24 | Shirik | you know what visual studio needs |
| 15:35.28 | Shirik | assembly syntax highlighting |
| 15:35.34 | Shirik | my wall of black text is hurting my eyes :( |
| 15:35.41 | zenzelezz | cog|work: oh, Pro has a lot of extras, just not much that is relevant to my interests :) That said, I'd still take Pro |
| 15:35.59 | cog|work | SQL highlighting too... It only seems to do it in the stored procedure editor |
| 15:36.47 | cog|work | zenzelezz: yep. I've been using 05 std for eveything i've done for myself |
| 15:37.03 | cog|work | But these are all things that will help convince the boss ;) |
| 15:37.13 | zenzelezz | =) |
| 15:37.20 | cog|work | (not that he's hard to convince...) |
| 15:38.00 | cog|work | I foresee the conversation going something like "Hey, I've been using the trial version for a while. Could I get buy the full version?" "Hmm... Sure" |
| 15:39.28 | Fisker- | i'm gonna go end myself |
| 15:39.28 | Fisker- | because EA sucks |
| 15:39.28 | Fisker- | releasing the creature creator to everyone but their own customers |
| 15:39.28 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 15:39.30 | zenzelezz | wish we used C++ at work... can't go asking for VS when we do PHP :-| |
| 15:40.05 | cog|work | Switch to ruby then you can ;) |
| 15:40.09 | cog|work | at least in a few months |
| 15:40.37 | zenzelezz | I don't have a say in the choice of language |
| 15:40.42 | Fisker- | don't you be all cheery |
| 15:40.48 | zenzelezz | maybe if I did .NET, but I don't want to touch that |
| 15:41.12 | cog|work | laaa la lala la la, la lala la laaaaa |
| 15:41.24 | cog|work | (name that tune, have a cookie) |
| 15:41.42 | zenzelezz | Sunday People |
| 15:41.51 | cog|work | bzzt |
| 15:41.57 | cog|work | hint: theme song |
| 15:42.02 | Shirik | I still don't like .NET, but I've been using it lately and it's ok |
| 15:42.10 | Shirik | mostly only using it out of necessity |
| 15:42.23 | Shirik | and .NET REALLY hates my inline assembly |
| 15:42.25 | Shirik | but it works |
| 15:42.47 | nevcairiel | .NET is nice if you want to build GUIs |
| 15:42.49 | cog|work | I like .NET for what it is. Definitely has its limitations though |
| 15:43.04 | cog|work | yeah, C# gui projects are horribly sexy |
| 15:43.20 | nevcairiel | yeah C# was written for that : |
| 15:43.24 | nevcairiel | but its nice in C++ too |
| 15:43.34 | nevcairiel | way better than crappy MFC |
| 15:43.53 | zenzelezz | while I haven't actually looked into it, C#/.NET to me seems like VB done better |
| 15:44.07 | cncfanatics | it also seems like "won't work on linux (tm)" ? |
| 15:44.20 | zenzelezz | how's that any different from VB? |
| 15:44.25 | zenzelezz | or other Windows programs? |
| 15:44.31 | nevcairiel | only .net 1.1 "works" reliably on mono |
| 15:44.37 | nevcairiel | 2.0 partially |
| 15:44.41 | nevcairiel | 3.0 not at all |
| 15:44.54 | nevcairiel | dont even speak of 3.5 :P |
| 15:45.26 | nevcairiel | Anyway, what i was wondering |
| 15:45.34 | nevcairiel | can i for example create .NET 2.0 apps with VS 08 ? |
| 15:45.41 | nevcairiel | or am i limited to .net 3.5? |
| 15:45.55 | nevcairiel | I dont want to enforce .net 3.5 on that app (yet) |
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| 15:48.13 | Shirik | is 3.5 released yet? |
| 15:48.25 | nevcairiel | dunno |
| 15:48.31 | nevcairiel | comes with VS 08 |
| 15:48.45 | cog|work | 3.5's been out for a while |
| 15:49.01 | cncfanatics | zenzelezz: a lot of windows programs (most opensource ones) work on both linux & windows |
| 15:49.14 | cncfanatics | s/most/mostly/ |
| 15:49.42 | zenzelezz | cncfanatics: yes, but they're built to do that. If you use something like .NET or MFC, you're pretty much saying you don't care, in which case whether it runs on Linux or not is a moot point |
| 15:49.47 | hi11ie | cncfanatics: operative words "mostly open source" which includes about 5% of windows apps |
| 15:50.04 | Shirik | I don't see any configuration in VS, nevcairiel |
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| 15:50.24 | cncfanatics | hi11ie: that depends on who you are |
| 15:50.25 | Shirik | so I guess it compiles for 3.5 |
| 15:50.29 | cncfanatics | most of my system is opensource software |
| 15:50.54 | hi11ie | cncfanatics: i meant in terms of all software available for windows, not an individual's installed software :) |
| 15:51.10 | nevcairiel | Shirik: somehow it must be possible, i see it everywhere <.< |
| 15:51.24 | Shirik | oh no |
| 15:51.32 | Shirik | my command line says 2.0 |
| 15:51.39 | cncfanatics | hi11ie: you would be amazed at how much small os projects there are :p |
| 15:51.59 | nevcairiel | Shirik: oh lol i am blind, go to new project .. top right is a drop down <.< |
| 15:52.16 | hi11ie | cncfanatics: what do you mean "small os projects" ? |
| 15:52.19 | Shirik | oh I just looked at the command line configuration |
| 15:52.23 | Shirik | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:52.28 | cncfanatics | small opensource projects |
| 15:52.32 | cncfanatics | there's a lot of them around |
| 15:52.34 | hi11ie | ah |
| 15:54.46 | hi11ie | c# looks cool for buildiong GUI apps. I'd rather build two versions of the same app in C# (for win) and Cocoa (for mac) than use ie. java |
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| 15:55.42 | Shirik | Java's GUI is pretty decent |
| 15:55.49 | nevcairiel | Isnt Cocoa a C++ API? |
| 15:55.54 | hi11ie | it's pretty decent but Cocoa is soo much better |
| 15:56.00 | Shirik | how is it better? |
| 15:56.05 | hi11ie | so much faster, so much easier |
| 15:56.11 | Shirik | have you tried netbeans at all? |
| 15:56.13 | hi11ie | Shirik: it just is :P |
| 15:56.19 | Shirik | I don't accept "it just is" |
| 15:56.20 | hi11ie | Shirik: Of course. |
| 15:56.28 | nevcairiel | The question is, have you tried Cocoa Shirik? =P |
| 15:56.39 | Shirik | I dislike Java as well, but I find it the easiest language to develop a GUI in. No I haven't nevcairiel, but I have no intention of using a Mac either :) |
| 15:56.54 | hi11ie | Shirik: well it's just everything about it. chalk it up to another "mac > anything else" point of view |
| 15:56.56 | hi11ie | i gotta run to class |
| 15:57.04 | nevcairiel | I dont like the java design of Action Listeners |
| 15:57.08 | nevcairiel | it feels so crazy |
| 15:57.21 | hi11ie | java isn't bad.. it's just like i said.. i never used c# but hear great things |
| 15:57.28 | Shirik | that's why you make anonymous instances :) |
| 15:57.31 | Shirik | it makes it so much easier |
| 15:58.40 | Shirik | this whole "24 bits per pixel" is killing me :( |
| 15:58.58 | Shirik | nothing fits right... |
| 16:00.11 | Josh_Borke | ~failrik |
| 16:00.15 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 16:00.56 | Drundia | 24? is it still used in some situations? |
| 16:01.10 | zenzelezz | often |
| 16:01.12 | zenzelezz | R G B |
| 16:01.19 | nevcairiel | isnt 24-bit all you need most of the time? |
| 16:01.25 | Shirik | oh it's all I need |
| 16:01.28 | Shirik | it's just horribly aligned |
| 16:01.29 | zenzelezz | add Alpha and you have 32 bits |
| 16:02.23 | nevcairiel | I actually wrote a small assembler proc last week to change the saturation of a .bmp |
| 16:02.27 | Shirik | since 24 does not divide into 128 evenly, bad things happen :P |
| 16:02.39 | nevcairiel | with 24-bit color depth |
| 16:05.49 | cog|work | umm... http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=84713&src=vidAd1 |
| 16:06.31 | nevcairiel | oh my, thats just wrong |
| 16:06.34 | Drundia | grrr, image files, right, they often have no use for 32 bits... |
| 16:06.52 | cog|work | convert to 32-bit for processing imo |
| 16:07.11 | Shirik | too hard |
| 16:07.23 | Shirik | it comes in as 24BPP and I don't have time to convert it to 32-bits |
| 16:07.47 | Shirik | I have 30ms max to process :) |
| 16:07.54 | nevcairiel | cog|work: whats even more troubling, the video i got after that one finished |
| 16:07.54 | cog|work | ah |
| 16:08.05 | cog|work | nevcairiel: the custard fight? |
| 16:08.08 | nevcairiel | yea |
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| 16:08.41 | erikd | i love the internet connection we have at work. i can't even stream that video |
| 16:08.41 | nevcairiel | people are crazy |
| 16:13.13 | MentalPower | interesting, spreadfirefox.com is dying |
| 16:13.26 | MentalPower | "The MySQL error was: Too many connections." |
| 16:13.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Anyone know of an addon that checks raid consumabled? Not items in bags, but rather buffs on people |
| 16:13.42 | ScytheBlade1 | *consumables |
| 16:13.49 | kd3 | BigBrother |
| 16:14.16 | nevcairiel | MentalPower: guess they lack some proper caching, hehe |
| 16:14.32 | nevcairiel | what was the time, 45minutes to go, right? |
| 16:14.42 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: thanks |
| 16:14.47 | MentalPower | nevcairiel: aye |
| 16:14.50 | MentalPower | 10am PST |
| 16:14.59 | MentalPower | and its currently 9:14am PST |
| 16:15.15 | nevcairiel | i looked it up in my timezone earlier |
| 16:15.18 | nevcairiel | wasnt sure anymore :) |
| 16:18.18 | Fisker- | i was thinking of ddos'ing the sites |
| 16:18.24 | Fisker- | so they don't get the record |
| 16:18.24 | nevcairiel | you dont have to |
| 16:18.31 | nevcairiel | the users will do it |
| 16:18.37 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 16:18.40 | Fisker- | but they'll also download it |
| 16:18.56 | MentalPower | spreadfirefox is not the one doing the tallies |
| 16:19.00 | MentalPower | mozilla.org is |
| 16:19.18 | MentalPower | I'm sure mozilla.org can handle the stress |
| 16:19.47 | Fisker- | you don't know the size of my botnet |
| 16:20.06 | nevcairiel | please, take it away! |
| 16:20.30 | Fisker- | thank EA for releasing the creature creator later for their own customers |
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| 16:20.56 | ScytheBlade1 | curious: who here reads slashdot? |
| 16:21.12 | MentalPower | only when linked |
| 16:21.16 | nevcairiel | same |
| 16:21.47 | Fisker- | thar be dragons |
| 16:21.55 | Tain | I browse the headlines daily, but only actually read a few a week. And never the user comments. |
| 16:22.16 | Fisker- | DWAGONS |
| 16:22.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, if that's what most people do, that explains how something from LAST YEAR made news as "just happening" |
| 16:22.49 | ScytheBlade1 | But mostly I was just curious |
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| 16:23.53 | erikd | i read it but i rarely post |
| 16:28.05 | Wikwocket | I just updated a mod on WoWI and it posted it right away instead of saying a mod will review the submission... |
| 16:28.09 | Wikwocket | Is that a recent change? |
| 16:28.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Wikwocket: no, they just queue camp. =] |
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| 16:37.36 | Drundia | they employ very special monkeys which are able to review mods faster than new page is generated |
| 16:40.06 | cncfanatics | those monkeys are called mods :) |
| 16:41.12 | nevcairiel | Shirik is one of those monkeys |
| 16:41.14 | nevcairiel | :) |
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| 16:41.37 | Funkeh` | why in the name of god does vista save all thumbnails to c |
| 16:41.59 | nevcairiel | it does? where to? |
| 16:42.22 | Funkeh` | not sur exactly where, but i seem to be regenerating thumbnails all the time for external drives |
| 16:42.53 | nevcairiel | maybe it just doesnt save them at all for external drives |
| 16:43.26 | Funkeh` | it does, since the size grows |
| 16:43.30 | Funkeh` | in the disk cleanup |
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| 16:44.01 | Funkeh` | i think it just fails at referencing them to the correct drive |
| 16:44.13 | Funkeh` | for ons that you unplug, anyway |
| 16:44.47 | Drundia | ha, you really believe it's done by real people? there are special monkeys for all possible purposes. |
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| 16:45.17 | Funkeh` | Should I be confused? |
| 16:45.29 | Funkeh` | No, I'll scroll up |
| 16:45.43 | cncfanatics | <Drundia>they employ very special monkeys which are able to review mods faster than new page is generated |
| 16:45.52 | Drundia | you should employ some monkeys to scroll for you too |
| 16:45.52 | cncfanatics | <cncfanatics>those monkeys are called mods :) |
| 16:46.11 | Shirik | Wikwocket: What mod is that? |
| 16:46.58 | Drundia | some properly trained monkeys can figure out who talks to who on IRC if they don't tell who they are talking to. |
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| 16:50.01 | Wikwocket | Shirik: I just updated AnnoyingBuffReminder |
| 16:50.31 | Shirik | it says you updated it two days ago :/ |
| 16:50.37 | Shirik | are you sure you changed the zip file? |
| 16:50.47 | Shirik | or did you just change the description? |
| 16:51.05 | Wikwocket | I know I selected the right zip... and I haven't updated it before then for months |
| 16:51.25 | Wikwocket | hmmm |
| 16:51.44 | Drundia | only monkeys can review and put an addon earlier than you upload it. |
| 16:51.48 | Shirik | you also have one archived from the 16th |
| 16:51.52 | Shirik | even though you last updated it the 15th |
| 16:51.56 | Shirik | that's kinda impressive |
| 16:52.15 | Wikwocket | hrm not sure what happened, updating again now |
| 16:52.19 | Wikwocket | Thanks for pointing it out :) |
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| 16:53.50 | Drundia | monkeys interfered! that's the only logical explanation |
| 16:54.08 | Wikwocket | Now if I could just figure out how to upload my file to Curse :( |
| 16:55.38 | Drundia | yay, people ask for 25 silver to send a mail |
| 16:55.51 | cog|work | <insert some shakespearean comment about the torment Magelo is causing> |
| 16:56.25 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work: did I tell the wrong guy off, or did he shape up magically in less than a page? |
| 16:56.25 | Seerah | ? |
| 16:56.33 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work: or am I just trolling again? =[ |
| 16:56.42 | dylanm | cog|work: Magelo? |
| 16:57.23 | ScytheBlade1 | My question was meta discussion! |
| 16:57.24 | Shirik | Wikwocket: not quite sure how that happened, try re-uploading and if it persists I'll poke the man |
| 16:57.39 | cog|work | ScytheBlade1: a little of all three? ;) |
| 16:57.49 | Wikwocket | Shirik: Thanks |
| 16:57.54 | Shirik | ah you already did |
| 16:58.07 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work: okay. I'm cool with that. ;) |
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| 17:02.13 | ScytheBlade1 | 0_0 |
| 17:02.14 | ScytheBlade1 | http://banderasnews.com/0804/nw-penistheft.htm |
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| 17:26.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Whee, Wine 1.0 |
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| 17:36.04 | Lunessa | By fire be purged! |
| 17:36.41 | zenzelezz | I always loved that one |
| 17:36.51 | zenzelezz | "Taste the flames of Sulfuron" wasn't bad either |
| 17:37.11 | durcyn | "Welcome to Flavor Country".. oh, wait |
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| 17:38.19 | Gnarfoz | I got those as sms sounds on my mobile ;D |
| 17:38.33 | Gnarfoz | though I'm using murloc aggro sound currently |
| 17:38.43 | zenzelezz | I have quite a few boss emote sounds on my mobile |
| 17:39.44 | zenzelezz | but I should change my actual ring tone... still using the Lotus Turbo Challenge II theme |
| 17:40.42 | Lunessa | I'm just old school at heart. |
| 17:46.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: "BY FIBER BE PURGED!" |
| 17:47.16 | Lunessa | ... Taste the fiber of Fiber*Con! |
| 17:47.25 | ScytheBlade1 | That was actually the first addon I ever wrote, and I wrote it before I saw Ragnaros. Whenever he would yell "By fire" I'd yell "BY FIBER" |
| 17:47.28 | ScytheBlade1 | I forgot about it for months |
| 17:47.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Then I attacked Rag and died of laughter |
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| 17:53.46 | kd3 | lol |
| 17:53.49 | Lunessa | I wonder if he'll be a soloable at 80... |
| 17:54.15 | Wikwocket | He probably us now but who wants to kill all the prereq bosses |
| 17:54.45 | Lunessa | Not I. It's a lot of damned work. |
| 17:55.03 | zenzelezz | didn't someone do MC with a ridiculously low number of people some time ago? |
| 17:55.10 | durcyn | 3, iirc. |
| 17:55.23 | zenzelezz | yeah, that's the number I was thinking, but couldn't quite recall |
| 17:55.40 | durcyn | i believe they had to swap a character or two around for certain bosses though |
| 17:55.51 | zenzelezz | probably |
| 17:55.59 | Lunessa | We tried BWL as a 5-man when we were newly minted 70s in quest greens/blues. Bad idea. |
| 17:56.08 | zenzelezz | hehe |
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| 17:56.14 | zenzelezz | get past Razorgore? |
| 17:57.42 | zenzelezz | there we go, http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/12/27/3-man-group-conquers-molten-core/ |
| 17:58.10 | Lunessa | No, we wiped in the first encounter. It was silly funn. |
| 17:59.39 | duaiwe | epic. http://deathwombat.livejournal.com/35187.html |
| 18:01.19 | Mikk | huhu razorgore with 5 nub 70s |
| 18:02.12 | Mikk | then again if one of them happened to be a prot pally... |
| 18:03.23 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: ping |
| 18:03.44 | Lunessa | 2 Ret pallies, an enchancement shaman, a shadow priest and a warrior. |
| 18:06.54 | Gngsk | 2 ret pallies, kinda redundant |
| 18:07.00 | cog|work | poor mozilla.com |
| 18:07.02 | ScytheBlade1 | s/2// |
| 18:07.23 | cog|work | et al |
| 18:07.26 | zenzelezz | cog|work: 3 final hit? |
| 18:07.30 | ScytheBlade1 | haha wow |
| 18:07.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Not often than the home page errors |
| 18:07.56 | cog|work | zenzelezz: supposedly... site is >slashdotted atm |
| 18:08.01 | zenzelezz | haha |
| 18:08.10 | Lunessa | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/06/14/funny-pictures-oh-wow-the-dog-looks-pissed/ |
| 18:08.19 | ScytheBlade1 | I still have v2 listed on .com |
| 18:08.24 | Esamynn | they setup a "download day" for v3 |
| 18:08.32 | Esamynn | me thinks they weren't ready |
| 18:08.41 | Esamynn | ScytheBlade1: so do I :( |
| 18:09.14 | Gngsk | i got the latest RC yesterday, first time i've tried ff3, it's pretty nice once you get all your addons updated |
| 18:09.42 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 18:09.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Looks like they outright shut down .org |
| 18:09.49 | zenzelezz | I like FF3, but still hate the new address bar |
| 18:10.09 | zenzelezz | stop showing me all the stupid sites whose titles match and just give me the damn address matche |
| 18:10.10 | zenzelezz | +s |
| 18:10.23 | Esamynn | http://tech.slashdot.org/tech/08/06/17/1250229.shtml |
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| 18:13.29 | cog|work | Esamynn: ty |
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| 18:14.28 | Lunessa | Meh, I themed it pretty quickly. |
| 18:15.04 | Lunessa | I'm using the BlackX 2 theme and it looks pretty sweet on my iMac. |
| 18:16.14 | zenzelezz | themed what, Firefox? |
| 18:18.49 | Gngsk | i think he means the address bar |
| 18:19.17 | zenzelezz | changing the appearance of the address bar isn't enough, it's the results it displays that bother me |
| 18:19.39 | zenzelezz | if I type "sla", I expect "slashdot.org" to pop up, not "www.funky.com" with title "Slaughterhouse" |
| 18:20.29 | Gngsk | is there still no way to individually remove entries in the address bar history? |
| 18:20.41 | zenzelezz | shift-delete? |
| 18:20.51 | Kyrin | just hit delete button when it's highlighted |
| 18:21.06 | Gngsk | ahh, nice |
| 18:21.21 | Kyrin | zenzelezz: I believe you can turn off that new address look up feature |
| 18:24.09 | zenzelezz | Kyrin: any idea where/how? |
| 18:24.17 | Kyrin | I'll check |
| 18:24.29 | Gngsk | prolly a bool in about:config |
| 18:25.26 | zenzelezz | been poking around there before, but hopefully I just missed something |
| 18:25.40 | Esamynn | about:config is your friend |
| 18:25.57 | zenzelezz | I'm all over about:config, some of the setting values just aren't obvious |
| 18:26.39 | zenzelezz | there's an integer "browser.urlbar.matchBehavior", but changing it doesn't have an effect that I can seem to notice (which is not to say it doesn't have an effect) |
| 18:27.40 | Gngsk | http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.urlbar.matchBehavior |
| 18:28.28 | Esamynn | poor mozilla.com/etc. |
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| 18:31.07 | zenzelezz | Gngsk: doesn't seem to do all I want, although it is an improvement. Still matches page titles |
| 18:32.29 | Kyrin | Windows: http://snurl.com/2jxqw | OS X: http://snurl.com/2jxv2 | Linux: http://snurl.com/2jxqv |
| 18:32.34 | Kyrin | in case anyone doesn't have it yet |
| 18:33.19 | zenzelezz | Kyrin: cheers |
| 18:33.29 | Kyrin | zenzelezz: browser.urlbar.maxRichResults |
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| 18:33.31 | Kyrin | set to 0 |
| 18:34.13 | zenzelezz | tried that, it gives me 0 matches if I type more than one letter in the address bar :-| |
| 18:34.36 | Kyrin | oh, in your example 'sla' does bring up slashdot.org for me |
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| 18:35.10 | Keias | wow |
| 18:35.19 | Keias | When I get to the mozilla site, I just get a link to 2.0.0.14 |
| 18:35.35 | Keias | They were not prepared |
| 18:35.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Firefox Download Day: Crashing the intertubes since 10:00 am PST. |
| 18:35.54 | Keias | lol |
| 18:35.56 | Kyrin | Keias: getfirefox.com doesn't goto the right page |
| 18:36.07 | Keias | Yeah, I've noticed :( |
| 18:36.09 | Kyrin | Windows: http://snurl.com/2jxqw | OS X: http://snurl.com/2jxv2 | Linux: http://snurl.com/2jxqv <-- Official redirect links from #Firefox |
| 18:36.30 | Snago | Keyloggers |
| 18:36.35 | Kyrin | lol |
| 18:36.38 | Gngsk | same difference |
| 18:36.57 | Keias | tyty |
| 18:37.43 | Kyrin | I would expect you to think keyloggers if I linked to my unofficial mirror on my forums, even though I also have the .asc signatures with the files |
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| 18:46.33 | Lunessa | I am the logger of the keys |
| 18:47.25 | Esamynn | http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/download.html?product=firefox-3.0&os=win&lang=en-US |
| 18:47.32 | Esamynn | it's up |
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| 18:54.05 | Esamynn | ~poke zenzelezz |
| 18:54.06 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind zenzelezz, pokes zenzelezz repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
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| 19:04.49 | Josh_Borke | ~emulate Josh_Borke |
| 19:04.49 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn |
| 19:07.16 | Cairenn | ~emulate cairenn |
| 19:07.17 | purl | ACTION purrs |
| 19:13.17 | zenzelezz | "(Let's say your mom surfs much pron and every time you type the letter E her favorite pron site pops up in the so called awesomebar........kinda annoying if you ask me)" -- interesting example |
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| 19:19.14 | Lunessa | I wouldn't be worried that it was my mom surfing too much pr0n. |
| 19:20.09 | Lunessa | cog|work: I'm going to answer some forum postings Soon. |
| 19:20.25 | cog|work | ! |
| 19:20.53 | Lunessa | Just don't hold your breath. |
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| 19:21.34 | oreth| | good afternoon |
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| 19:24.59 | oreth| | Do you enjoy bacon? |
| 19:25.07 | oreth| | Do you wish to converse with other who also enjoy bacon? |
| 19:27.54 | cog|work | IT'S A TRAP! |
| 19:31.25 | oreth| | bacon is never a trap |
| 19:31.25 | Lunessa | We'll last longer against that battle station than we will against those Star Destroyers. We've got to give him more time! |
| 19:32.02 | cog|work | oreth|: except for people without will power |
| 19:32.12 | nevcairiel | whats the version string on the final ff3? |
| 19:32.41 | oreth| | 3.0.1 |
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| 19:32.54 | oreth| | if you're working on addons.. just put 3.* |
| 19:33.00 | nevcairiel | i was more wondering for the gecko tag |
| 19:33.04 | nevcairiel | in the info screen |
| 19:33.11 | cog|work | Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9) Gecko/2008052906 Firefox/3.0 |
| 19:33.29 | oreth| | FF3: about:robots |
| 19:33.51 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 19:33.54 | nevcairiel | cool |
| 19:34.42 | cog|work | Please don't press this button again |
| 19:34.51 | nevcairiel | i did :( |
| 19:36.00 | oreth| | about: mozilla |
| 19:36.06 | MentalPower | Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9) Gecko/2008052906 Firefox/3.0 |
| 19:36.33 | Lunessa | Look at me, brain the size of a planet. "Hey Marivn, go fetch the alines from air lock two. Won't that be exiting?" Call that job satisfaction, 'cause I sure don't. |
| 19:36.41 | MentalPower | I wonder if theres a listing of all the about:* pages |
| 19:36.57 | nevcairiel | i saw someone with a 0613 tag, was confused that i only got a 05* |
| 19:37.05 | Stanzilla | Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1a1pre) Gecko/2008061406 Minefield/3.1a1pre ID:2008061406 ^^ |
| 19:37.52 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 19:38.01 | nevcairiel | anything worth mentioning in 3.1 planned? |
| 19:38.09 | oreth| | ... |
| 19:38.13 | Stanzilla | a better vista skin... |
| 19:38.27 | oreth| | thanks for letting the developers rest a bit |
| 19:38.31 | oreth| | i'm sure they appreciate it :P |
| 19:38.40 | nevcairiel | developers dont rest! |
| 19:38.42 | Kyrin | cog|work: the best part about the button is the xml namespace for it: http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul |
| 19:38.48 | Stanzilla | oh and I think the new JS engine is planned for 3.1 |
| 19:39.07 | Cide | that's awesome |
| 19:39.13 | Cide | zuul ftw |
| 19:39.33 | Kyrin | yes |
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| 19:40.01 | Kyrin | thing is, jokes like that, only devs would even see that stuff, makes it feel good to see it :P |
| 19:40.02 | Fisker- | set sail for fail as they say |
| 19:47.03 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:47.23 | ScytheBlade1 | http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/download.html?product=firefox-3.0&os=win&lang=en-US |
| 19:47.32 | ScytheBlade1 | They have the pictures for steps 1 and 2 reversed |
| 19:48.17 | Lunessa | there is only xul. |
| 19:48.20 | Lunessa | lawl |
| 19:48.39 | Esamynn | ScytheBlade1: I remember the pictures being correct for me |
| 19:48.54 | Esamynn | although, when I did the dl for one of my comps, with FF2, they gave me pics for IE |
| 19:49.48 | oreth| | Mozilla = Geek Goodness |
| 19:52.00 | MentalPower | http://www.mozilla.org/docs/web-developer/samples/kitchensink.xml |
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| 19:53.01 | Maldivia | ups... |
| 19:53.06 | Adys__ | ah hey Maldivia |
| 19:53.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I love how you can turn the water on and off |
| 19:53.15 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: quick question! |
| 19:53.20 | MentalPower | shoot |
| 19:53.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Do you do Informant at all? |
| 19:53.35 | MentalPower | aye |
| 19:53.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Informant.GetItem(itemid) - right? |
| 19:54.09 | ScytheBlade1 | If I just want the sell price, just grab the returned table["sell"] - nothing special to it? |
| 19:54.14 | MentalPower | well, aye as in "yes informant is part of the auctioneer family of addons and as such I'm the lead developer", but you didn't need to know all that :) |
| 19:54.19 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 19:54.20 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: GetSellValue() IMO |
| 19:54.42 | MentalPower | much faster if you want *just* the item's sell value |
| 19:54.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Informant.GetSellValue() is nil here, I just used /dump Informant to see what I could use |
| 19:54.55 | MentalPower | nop |
| 19:54.59 | MentalPower | just GetSellValue() |
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| 19:55.07 | MentalPower | as in _G.GetSellValue() |
| 19:55.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha, that explains it |
| 19:55.11 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah |
| 19:55.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Also takes an itemID? |
| 19:55.24 | MentalPower | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetSellValue |
| 19:55.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Err |
| 19:55.37 | MentalPower | it takes anything GetItemInfo() takes |
| 19:56.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, lol, okay it is provided by addons |
| 19:56.16 | MentalPower | aye |
| 19:56.20 | ScytheBlade1 | The API_ prefix threw me off, thought we suddenly got sell values in the stock API |
| 19:56.23 | MentalPower | its a community created standard |
| 19:57.43 | foxlit | It's moved, btw |
| 19:57.52 | foxlit | So if link without API_ and avoid confusion :) |
| 19:57.53 | oreth| | protosocial is the word, fellas |
| 19:58.39 | oreth| | perhaps |
| 19:58.40 | oreth| | metasocial |
| 19:58.50 | oreth| | "community created standard" |
| 19:58.57 | oreth| | "protosocial standard" ? |
| 19:59.01 | Gnarfoz | Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.14; .NET CLR 3.0; ffco7) Gecko/20080404 Firefox/2.0.0.14 <-- o_O why is mozilla serving outdated builds? |
| 19:59.41 | ScytheBlade1 | ha, switching this addon from Informant.GetItem and supporting code to just GetSellValue() |
| 19:59.41 | oreth| | perhaps "metasocial standard" is a betterword |
| 19:59.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Moved the addon .zip to 1024 bytes exactly |
| 20:01.05 | MentalPower | what addon BTW? |
| 20:02.07 | ScytheBlade1 | I posted on my guild forums, a list of three ideas that I wanted to make a reality and asked what they thought would be nice to have |
| 20:02.28 | ScytheBlade1 | One of my guildies bugged me in game, asked how hard it would be to make one that only loots items worth X to vendors |
| 20:02.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Turns out it is pretty easy to do ;) |
| 20:03.30 | MentalPower | also, you might've realized this already, but if you're using just GetSellValue() you can make Informant an OptDep (alongside the other AddOns that provide GetSellValue()) |
| 20:03.39 | ScytheBlade1 | I did |
| 20:03.46 | ScytheBlade1 | That and the other addons listed on that page |
| 20:04.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Just a simple if (GetSellValue) then -- do stuff end |
| 20:04.15 | ScytheBlade1 | In the code, with an OptDep on the addons that would provide it |
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| 20:10.42 | Lunessa | *headdesk* http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7116548201&sid=1 |
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| 20:13.44 | Wikwocket | Lunessa: C'mon, all the guy wants is a macro that will kill every mob with one click while he watches Futurama reruns, is that too much to ask? |
| 20:15.01 | Lunessa | Well, I also want one that causes Jessica Alba to do me special favors while I play WoW, pwning Illidan solo with one-button push... |
| 20:16.27 | oreth| | haha |
| 20:16.29 | oreth| | jessica alba |
| 20:16.32 | Esamynn | cool, FF3 download day is going well |
| 20:16.41 | Esamynn | 1.73 million downloads already |
| 20:16.46 | ckknight | Esamynn: mozilla.org is horribly slow, though |
| 20:16.47 | ckknight | :-P |
| 20:16.53 | Esamynn | yes, it is |
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| 20:17.29 | nevcairiel | the extension site is unreachable |
| 20:17.32 | nevcairiel | i need extension =( |
| 20:17.42 | Esamynn | Lunessa: that's quite a dream ;) |
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| 20:17.59 | Lunessa | Hey, a man's got to have dreams. |
| 20:18.01 | zenzelezz | I can totally see Jessica Alba pwning Illidan |
| 20:18.49 | Esamynn | Lunessa: yes, yes, and I must say, I totally agree with your taste in women 8) |
| 20:19.09 | Lunessa | That's because she has "Incite Drooling" a Movie-Star Only spell that WTFBBQPWNS all geeky things. |
| 20:19.32 | Esamynn | Movie-Star only? |
| 20:19.52 | Lunessa | Well, No. I should say "HAWT Woman Only" |
| 20:20.35 | cog|work | Jessica Alba pisses me off... She gets all frustrated at people seeing her as a sex symbol and then ... plays the roles she does... |
| 20:20.47 | Slakah | Is there anyway to get the text currently in a chat frame other than hooking AddMessage? |
| 20:21.19 | Lunessa | cog|work: I try to imagine that she never has much to say... |
| 20:21.29 | Duman | heh |
| 20:22.30 | Esamynn | lol |
| 20:22.51 | zenzelezz | just make sure she can't speak |
| 20:24.14 | Lunessa | ... beyond "Oh God!" and "Don't stop!" and "YES! YES! YES!" |
| 20:24.33 | cog|work | tmi? |
| 20:24.44 | cog|work | ;) |
| 20:24.45 | Lunessa | No, not really. |
| 20:24.55 | Fisker- | you are special :o |
| 20:25.03 | Fisker- | also |
| 20:25.03 | cog|work | .< |
| 20:25.06 | Fisker- | madness |
| 20:25.13 | Fisker- | Blizzard haven't put D2 up for download yet |
| 20:25.38 | Esamynn | cog|work: so don't :P |
| 20:25.46 | Lunessa | Actually... I'm pretty sure no one wants to picture that cog|work - /especially/ Jessica Alba. |
| 20:25.53 | cog|work | Slakah: the method list for ScrollingMessageFrame would probably be the place to start... http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/ScrollingMessageFrame |
| 20:25.55 | Esamynn | ROFL |
| 20:26.27 | cog|work | (not knowing the direct answer to your question) |
| 20:28.30 | Slakah | ok |
| 20:28.47 | Lunessa | The number of people vetching about NECB is staggering. |
| 20:29.13 | cog|work | it may involve manually scrolling the window and enumerating font strings if there isn't anything more direct... not exactly trivial |
| 20:29.29 | cog|work | though you shouldn't be too put off by hooking :AddMessage as long as you do it safely |
| 20:32.57 | Wikwocket | Well, over the months NECB gathered tons of features, relevant to pve and pvp, it was used for a lot of things |
| 20:33.11 | Wikwocket | It was kinf of the catch-all mod for everything involving a time |
| 20:33.36 | Drundia | visible tecxt of SMF should always be catchable as its fontstrings (retrievable using :GetRegions()) |
| 20:34.40 | Lunessa | my point is this... The original author dropped it, someone else works on it (slowly, when life allows) and people want to yell about. L2Code n00bz. |
| 20:35.49 | Wikwocket | It's rude, but I think to be expected when a mod becomes so incorporated to so many people, and then falls off the earth |
| 20:36.03 | Wikwocket | It's why I'm glad my mods have not become exactly mainstream :) |
| 20:36.19 | Drundia | that's why it's best to code your own mods for yourself :) |
| 20:39.19 | Lunessa | This is largely why I don't release my (lol)code. |
| 20:40.10 | Thunder_Child | well i know what mmo I'm playing next. http://www.hellokittyonline.com/us/ |
| 20:40.20 | oreth| | man |
| 20:40.25 | oreth| | that mod i was writing was HUGE |
| 20:40.39 | oreth| | and just not feasible on a large scale distribution |
| 20:41.12 | oreth| | it worked, but i tanked it |
| 20:41.37 | zenzelezz | who healed it? |
| 20:41.43 | oreth| | ... |
| 20:41.45 | oreth| | i hate you... |
| 20:41.47 | oreth| | i don't even know you |
| 20:41.51 | oreth| | but I hate you |
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| 20:42.23 | Wikwocket | What mod? |
| 20:42.37 | oreth| | well, it was a conglomeration of ingame and out of game code |
| 20:43.20 | oreth| | it would scan your wow directory, get characters/realms for all accounts, then hit the armory and download armory details for everyone in every guild your characters were a part of |
| 20:43.55 | oreth| | then, you could mouse over them/look them up in game and get their talent spec, professions, and other vital statistics |
| 20:44.00 | oreth| | you could also add other people to the list |
| 20:44.16 | oreth| | so you could grab information for, say, your PvP Nemesis (whether horde or alliance) |
| 20:44.26 | erikd | i made an armory crawler that'd go good with that |
| 20:45.03 | erikd | buuuut... the db ended up being 13GB or so and i only did a small subsection of the armory |
| 20:45.14 | oreth| | my "armory crawler" was written in python.. got allt he vital information, then wrote the LUA code that created the "flat database" that the game used |
| 20:45.29 | oreth| | python that wrote LUA |
| 20:45.33 | oreth| | it was pretty pimp |
| 20:45.37 | kd3 | s/LUA/lua/ |
| 20:45.46 | Thunder_Child | krka_ failed |
| 20:46.13 | oreth| | problem is... |
| 20:46.36 | oreth| | if you hit the armory more than 10 times in as many seconds... it began to kick back an error page |
| 20:46.43 | oreth| | and that threw off the info |
| 20:46.54 | kd3 | which is why you rate-limit your armory scraping |
| 20:46.59 | Drundia | yes, it's temp ban they have when you dos armory |
| 20:47.18 | oreth| | i had plans to have it use PIL to create abit of a chart library |
| 20:47.38 | oreth| | but then I remember antiarc's armory tools and was like "screw writing my own" |
| 20:48.23 | oreth| | but i never got that far with it |
| 20:48.36 | oreth| | i'm a dev for my day job |
| 20:48.37 | erikd | how long ago were you doing that? i don't remember running into that problem when i was crawling it |
| 20:48.49 | oreth| | very rarely do I decide i want to code at home when I leave work |
| 20:48.53 | oreth| | let's see.... |
| 20:49.02 | oreth| | Feb - March? |
| 20:49.15 | erikd | i have every intention of coding when i get home from work but end up raiding or farming instead |
| 20:49.26 | oreth| | as I understand it, they added the "flood protection" with 2.1, i think. |
| 20:49.48 | oreth| | also: i don't think I have that code anymore |
| 20:49.54 | oreth| | i wiped my pc without backing up |
| 20:50.05 | erikd | i had 150g in repairs from my raid last night =/ |
| 20:50.09 | erikd | ahh |
| 20:50.22 | erikd | i set up a perforce server on my file server |
| 20:50.35 | ScytheBlade1 | How did you pull that off? Chain spirit res? |
| 20:50.47 | erikd | lots and lots and lots of wipes |
| 20:51.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I can pull 20 archimonde wipes a night and be under 50g |
| 20:52.42 | nevcairiel | thats because a death in doomfire doesnt dmg your gear :) |
| 20:52.45 | erikd | it's about 5g per death |
| 20:53.34 | oreth| | any official date for WotLK? |
| 20:53.36 | erikd | doesn't look like we have a wws or i'd be able to tell you how many times we wiped :P |
| 20:53.39 | Drundia | as soon as people find out that doomfires don't damage durability they start dying in them more.... |
| 20:54.54 | foxlit | 5g / death? |
| 20:55.03 | foxlit | Expensive, my full repairs are around 30 :( |
| 20:55.35 | nevcairiel | plate gear does that to you |
| 20:55.39 | ScytheBlade1 | None of my deaths were due to doomfire |
| 20:55.45 | erikd | i'm in leather =/ |
| 20:55.50 | ScytheBlade1 | They were all to finger of death or soul charges :P |
| 20:56.08 | nevcairiel | never had one of those "ok its a wipe, jump into fire" |
| 20:56.09 | nevcairiel | ? |
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| 20:56.25 | Lunessa | As yet, there is no official release date for WotLK. |
| 20:57.17 | erikd | doomfires are so annoying. i'd try to go jump in them on a wipe and i'd be running right on top of them for the entire wipe and not get the debuff |
| 20:57.17 | erikd | but when i DON'T want it i get it standing 5 yds away |
| 20:57.18 | oreth| | I'll probably go back to pla ying when it comes out |
| 20:57.20 | oreth| | but I haven't played since... well.. since early march, i guess |
| 20:57.40 | erikd | raiding is really the only reason i play any more |
| 20:57.41 | oreth| | and previous to that 2 week playing stint, i hadn't played since late last year |
| 20:57.44 | oreth| | i hate raiding |
| 20:58.58 | erikd | i like doing strats and stuff with the people i raid with (most of the time) |
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| 20:59.26 | oreth| | i like pvp |
| 20:59.34 | oreth| | i do like raiding, but leisurely |
| 20:59.38 | oreth| | but I really like leveling |
| 20:59.50 | oreth| | but I can't stand leveling an alt past.... 29 or so |
| 20:59.53 | oreth| | i get bored |
| 21:00.01 | erikd | yeah, i'm the same |
| 21:00.17 | erikd | it's fun playing a new class but i have trouble sticking with it unless i'm really bored doing anything else |
| 21:00.38 | erikd | i don't do arenas because i don't like paying for respecs between raids |
| 21:00.43 | oreth| | i love my 360, anymore |
| 21:00.55 | oreth| | Gamefly is the best thing ever |
| 21:01.06 | oreth| | i own like.. 4 360 games |
| 21:01.23 | oreth| | masseffect, skate, GTA IV and Rock band |
| 21:01.28 | erikd | i had to buy a new 360 this last weekend, red ring of death =/ |
| 21:01.30 | Shirik | maintainence (sp?) |
| 21:01.30 | batbot | Shirik, nothing found. |
| 21:01.34 | Shirik | ~fail batbot |
| 21:01.37 | purl | batbot, you Fail! |
| 21:01.41 | oreth| | Shirik: maintenance |
| 21:01.44 | Shirik | thanks |
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| 21:14.25 | Cide | hi (sp?) Shirik |
| 21:14.25 | batbot | Cide, hi is correct. |
| 21:14.32 | Cide | thanks batbot |
| 21:15.37 | cog|work | Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis (sp?) |
| 21:15.37 | batbot | cog|work, nothing found. |
| 21:16.09 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 21:16.51 | cog|work | ~wiki Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis |
| 21:17.21 | Thunder_Child | wow...it even has a second spelling...cuse the first isnt hard enough |
| 21:17.23 | cog|work | "alleged to mean" |
| 21:17.29 | Cide | causing infinity! DISASTRUOUS |
| 21:17.37 | Cide | I fail |
| 21:17.45 | Thunder_Child | inflamitory* |
| 21:17.52 | Thunder_Child | or inflamation |
| 21:17.54 | Cide | epic fail |
| 21:17.57 | Cide | inflammatory? |
| 21:18.05 | Thunder_Child | what? |
| 21:18.06 | oreth| | ~wiki Soup Nazi |
| 21:18.12 | nevcairiel | ..causing inflammation in the lungs |
| 21:18.16 | nevcairiel | just open the article :P |
| 21:18.20 | Thunder_Child | to lazy |
| 21:18.35 | cog|work | i think i can spell it out loud faster than i can type it |
| 21:18.57 | Lunessa | cog|work: That used to be a favorite trivia question. |
| 21:19.18 | nevcairiel | there even is a voice recording of it spellt out |
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| 21:21.34 | cog|work | /asplode |
| 21:21.36 | cog|work | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateapokaiwhenuakitanatahu |
| 21:21.58 | nevcairiel | that needs a voice recording |
| 21:22.11 | nevcairiel | i have no idea where to start in saying that word |
| 21:22.20 | cog|work | The summit where Tamatea, the man with the big knees, the climber of mountains, the land-swallower who travelled about, played his nose flute to his loved one |
| 21:22.35 | nevcairiel | reading that word makes the text go all blurry |
| 21:23.08 | cog|work | huh... that landscape looks remarkably like northern california |
| 21:23.33 | nevcairiel | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:New_Zealand_0577.jpg |
| 21:23.34 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 21:23.38 | nevcairiel | thats amazing |
| 21:23.55 | cog|work | yeah that one :P |
| 21:24.10 | nevcairiel | that sign is great :P |
| 21:25.52 | Zyuu | hey guys |
| 21:25.58 | Zyuu | thoughts on this? |
| 21:25.58 | Zyuu | outdated addon development |
| 21:25.59 | Zyuu | Sent by RaelSpark to You about 1 hour, 48 minutes ago |
| 21:25.59 | Zyuu | Tank buddy: this addon hasnt been updated in 14months, and unable to get in contact with the author. Most of this addon's announce functionality is broken since patch 2.4 |
| 21:25.59 | Zyuu | I have a fan update available, fixes all the announcements broken by patch 2.4, also added Paladin tank support. |
| 21:26.01 | Zyuu | I know fan updates are generally frowned upon, would it be any different in a case like this? |
| 21:26.18 | ScytheBlade1 | What addon? |
| 21:26.30 | Zyuu | says in the text, tankbuddy |
| 21:26.59 | Thunder_Child | heh, thought that was the person talking |
| 21:26.59 | Thunder_Child | to much IRC |
| 21:27.03 | ScytheBlade1 | oh ha |
| 21:27.04 | Zyuu | hehe |
| 21:27.10 | ScytheBlade1 | I missed that four times until you said that |
| 21:27.38 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd suggest "Tank Buddy Enhanced" or something |
| 21:27.46 | ScytheBlade1 | + a comment in the existing addon |
| 21:28.11 | nevcairiel | i hate those cloned addons with Enhanced or Continued added |
| 21:28.23 | nevcairiel | just give him the original addon if it really hasnt been touched for 14 month |
| 21:28.35 | nevcairiel | (and the author didnt login recently either) |
| 21:28.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay then, just prefix it with "Functional" ;) |
| 21:29.22 | Zyuu | I agree with giving the project over |
| 21:29.27 | Zyuu | and if the original author returns |
| 21:29.29 | Zyuu | he can havei t back |
| 21:29.32 | Zyuu | thoughts on this? |
| 21:29.33 | Zyuu | wrong? |
| 21:29.35 | Zyuu | right? |
| 21:29.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Sure, just make sure the new author makes a note of that on the addon page |
| 21:30.12 | nevcairiel | wrong from the license side of things, right from all other sides :P |
| 21:30.27 | ScytheBlade1 | more or less |
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| 21:32.12 | Zyuu | alright, thanks |
| 21:36.04 | ZealotOnAStick | http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=402160 |
| 21:36.17 | Lunessa | cog|work: - this is for you... http://www.sadkermit.com/ |
| 21:38.06 | oreth| | guys... GUYS |
| 21:38.12 | oreth| | Daikatana |
| 21:38.35 | oreth| | just sayin'... |
| 21:40.09 | zenzelezz | the thing I dislike about torrents is when there's only one seeder on a big torrent; so it takes forever before someone else gets a full download... then suddenly the availability skyrockets |
| 21:41.59 | ScytheBlade1 | There is something wrong with that sad kermit |
| 21:43.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoa okay, REALLY wrong |
| 21:44.51 | nevcairiel | emo kermit |
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| 21:47.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Reminds me of Shirik |
| 21:47.00 | nevcairiel | man UNIT_AURA needs some useful arguments |
| 21:54.14 | Lunessa | Sad Kermit is the funniest shit I've seen in a long time. Even though it's WRONG on so many fronts. |
| 21:54.20 | kd3 | ^ |
| 21:54.31 | ScytheBlade1 | The Hurt video scared me |
| 21:54.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Like |
| 21:54.37 | ScytheBlade1 | .... /flee |
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| 21:55.32 | Lunessa | The circle is now complete. When I left you I was but the learner; now I am the Master. |
| 21:56.46 | zenzelezz | only a master of evil, Lunessa |
| 21:57.07 | Lunessa | I shall strike you down, and I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine. |
| 21:57.08 | Lunessa | :P |
| 21:57.58 | Thunder_Child | i can imagine a lot of power |
| 21:58.24 | Lunessa | I have a power level of over NINE THOUSAND (and now I feel dirty and need to wash). |
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| 21:59.01 | Shirik | hi ScytheBlade1 |
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| 21:59.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: http://www.sadkermit.com/ |
| 21:59.39 | ScytheBlade1 | For reference |
| 22:00.17 | Shirik | that's me? |
| 22:01.09 | Lunessa | I can see I've created a monster. |
| 22:03.07 | ScytheBlade1 | I have a sudden urge to play C&C in some form |
| 22:03.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Why I'm not sure |
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| 22:10.29 | kd3 | wth? fark: [Obvious] Oil rises over $2 a barrel on news that Saudi Arabia has increased production by 200,000 barrels a day and that it's opposite day |
| 22:10.44 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 22:11.03 | Lunessa | ... why the hell does this crap persist? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7116418462&sid=1 |
| 22:11.32 | kd3 | and good god... fx3 is already over 1.5m downloads |
| 22:11.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: why do people need macros that play for them? |
| 22:11.55 | Kirov | kd3 - heh |
| 22:11.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Because they're tards. |
| 22:11.59 | ckknight | kd3: only? |
| 22:12.02 | ScytheBlade1 | (Answer to both questions, yours and mine) |
| 22:12.08 | Kirov | I downloaded it this morning at 8kbps |
| 22:12.13 | kd3 | http://downloadcounter.sj.mozilla.com/ |
| 22:12.55 | ScytheBlade1 | 7.8k downloads a minute |
| 22:13.19 | Kirov | It'd probably be faster if the mozilla servers weren't completely hammered right now |
| 22:13.28 | kd3 | all hail the mirrors |
| 22:13.37 | kd3 | and moz.com's back to normal, or at least loading again |
| 22:13.54 | ScytheBlade1 | They're pushing out 55692MB a minute |
| 22:13.55 | nevcairiel | addons page worky too? |
| 22:14.09 | nevcairiel | yay it works again |
| 22:14.19 | Kirov | self inflicted DOS |
| 22:14.21 | cog|work | the mirror it picked for my download this morning was in korea |
| 22:14.45 | ScytheBlade1 | heh, whoops. |
| 22:15.07 | cog|work | i bet it was faster than any of the us sites at the time :P |
| 22:15.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Also, there's 1.6 million |
| 22:15.17 | cog|work | i got ~500KB/s |
| 22:15.18 | kd3 | lol, someone's spamming the download counter in the UK |
| 22:15.28 | ScytheBlade1 | I got it in under a minute so eh |
| 22:15.51 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: I think that's a live update that only does one country at a time |
| 22:15.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Mine was doing the UK, now it's on Canada |
| 22:16.23 | foxlit | If they weren't out to purposefully push out terabytes of data, they should've used a torrent :/ |
| 22:16.39 | nevcairiel | torrent for a 7mb file? |
| 22:16.45 | foxlit | Why not? |
| 22:16.48 | erikd | i'd be curious to see the bandwidth bill at the end of the day |
| 22:17.12 | foxlit | I doubt it matters at that side of the scale - they're likely to be paying for throughput, not traffic |
| 22:17.34 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: there we go, now all of the numbers are updating in real time |
| 22:18.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Also, there's 10k downloads/minute |
| 22:18.47 | nevcairiel | i must be doing something wrong, mine doesnt update :P |
| 22:19.13 | erikd | mine just started |
| 22:19.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Let it sit for a minute |
| 22:19.40 | ScytheBlade1 | 11k/minute |
| 22:21.27 | nevcairiel | whats the record to break/set? |
| 22:22.05 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got no clue what the record is |
| 22:22.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Looks like the per second is dropping though |
| 22:22.20 | ScytheBlade1 | And now it's rising again |
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| 22:22.29 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 22:22.40 | nevcairiel | mine started updating \o/ |
| 22:22.46 | erikd | mine only has it around 7.3k/m |
| 22:22.53 | ScytheBlade1 | 7.6k now |
| 22:23.00 | ScytheBlade1 | 7.8 |
| 22:23.05 | erikd | 7.3 still |
| 22:23.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Weird |
| 22:23.11 | nevcairiel | 8 |
| 22:23.12 | erikd | it's broken! |
| 22:23.24 | ScytheBlade1 | 8 |
| 22:23.24 | erikd | mine is going down, hmmm |
| 22:23.25 | nevcairiel | 8.2 |
| 22:23.26 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah |
| 22:23.27 | nevcairiel | its rising |
| 22:23.35 | ScytheBlade1 | 8.2 |
| 22:23.40 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah we're pretty close |
| 22:23.40 | nevcairiel | 8.4 |
| 22:23.46 | erikd | 7.25 |
| 22:23.54 | nevcairiel | erikd is broken |
| 22:23.57 | nevcairiel | try F5 :P |
| 22:24.03 | nevcairiel | 8.7 |
| 22:24.06 | nevcairiel | rising fast |
| 22:24.16 | erikd | i shouldn't have to, i looked at the code and it's using jquery ajax calls |
| 22:24.20 | erikd | it refreshes itself :) |
| 22:24.58 | erikd | uh oh, i really broke it now |
| 22:24.58 | nevcairiel | wonder what you have to do to actually get it going |
| 22:25.10 | nevcairiel | i refreshed the page and nothing happens .P |
| 22:25.26 | nevcairiel | ah there it is again |
| 22:25.35 | nevcairiel | only 6.8 now o.O |
| 22:25.41 | erikd | i bet it takes a bit for the ajax request to go through |
| 22:25.52 | erikd | AHA. it was you guys who were wrong |
| 22:25.54 | nevcairiel | but after the first request you see constant updates |
| 22:28.00 | erikd | hmm |
| 22:28.05 | erikd | maybe they turned it off |
| 22:28.38 | nevcairiel | 1.7mil |
| 22:29.24 | foxlit | Hm |
| 22:29.53 | foxlit | I want to get rid of the non-actionbutton portion of the main action bar, keeping the art |
| 22:30.09 | foxlit | There must be some addon to do that :) |
| 22:30.38 | foxlit | However, I can't find anything in wowi's action bar mods category |
| 22:31.28 | Kirov | There used to be an addon that did that. |
| 22:31.32 | Kirov | Discord |
| 22:32.20 | nevcairiel | thats like 10 lines of lua foxlit :p |
| 22:32.38 | foxlit | Yeah, but that's 10 lines of lua I don't have to figure out :) |
| 22:33.01 | erikd | i used to use discord but i'm pretty happy with bartender3 now |
| 22:33.04 | foxlit | It's entirely doable, but you'd think in 3 years someone would've done it already :) |
| 22:33.28 | cog|work | though they may not think to release it given the triviality ;) |
| 22:33.36 | erikd | though i do miss being able to bind keys to my spellbook |
| 22:33.48 | cog|work | erikd: spellbinder |
| 22:33.56 | erikd | well there 'ya go |
| 22:33.57 | erikd | :P |
| 22:34.02 | foxlit | That's a one-liner, tbh |
| 22:34.08 | foxlit | SetOverrideBindingSpell :) |
| 22:34.09 | cog|work | or /run SetBindingSpell("KEY", "Spell Name") SaveBindings(GetCurrentBindingSet()) |
| 22:34.19 | cog|work | why Override? |
| 22:34.27 | nevcairiel | overrides are evil |
| 22:34.38 | cog|work | people overuse override bindings imo |
| 22:34.41 | erikd | i know 0 about lua or ui development, to be honest |
| 22:34.48 | erikd | i'm here for combat log parsing ;) |
| 22:34.49 | foxlit | Because nobody clearly documented the difference :/ |
| 22:35.11 | foxlit | They seemed to work at the time I needed a bindings API, and I haven't run into any sort of issues since. |
| 22:36.13 | cog|work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=64187212&sid=1&pageNo=1#5 imo :P |
| 22:36.25 | wereHamster | http://img.thedailywtf.com/images/200806/errord/wow-eula.jpg |
| 22:36.56 | kd3 | lol |
| 22:36.57 | cog|work | foxlit: SetBinding____ bindings are stored so you never have to touch them again except to change them |
| 22:37.09 | cog|work | overrides are meant to be transient |
| 22:37.35 | foxlit | "Set (or clear) an override key binding. " |
| 22:37.50 | foxlit | The entire override docs :) |
| 22:38.13 | cog|work | plus all the occurrences in SecureTemplates/whatever state header files were around at the time :P |
| 22:38.31 | foxlit | Code != Documentation :) |
| 22:38.41 | cog|work | and with NEW SetBindingSpell("KEY", "Spell Name") -- Set a key binding directly to a spell, uses the same spell name syntax as /cast, why would you go for the more obscure? |
| 22:38.47 | cog|work | ;) |
| 22:38.49 | nevcairiel | Code is the programmers documentation! |
| 22:39.01 | nevcairiel | also, the Secure* stuff has good inline docs |
| 22:39.41 | foxlit | I'm pretty sure they describe what Secure* stuff is doing, not SetOverride* stuff |
| 22:40.04 | foxlit | so in the case of those calls, your docs are that single description line and any use of the function call in code you may find :) |
| 22:40.21 | cog|work | The docs for the secure stuff would've implied it, though admittedly your first instinct wouldn't be to look there... |
| 22:41.07 | cog|work | i still say, with SetBindingSpell staring you in the face, it was silly to use SetOverrideBinding which, as you just explained, had limited documentation ;) |
| 22:41.31 | foxlit | Nobody said binding spells was my original intent :) |
| 22:41.34 | cog|work | (collective "you") |
| 22:42.02 | cog|work | all the SetBinding____s are in that list before SetOverrideBinding____ ;) |
| 22:42.17 | nevcairiel | smart people read from bottom up! |
| 22:42.27 | nevcairiel | because the cool stuff is hidden at the end, you know :) |
| 22:42.37 | erikd | i agree with nev |
| 22:42.48 | foxlit | Actually needed a transient binding, so meh at what's written first :) |
| 22:43.07 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 22:43.18 | erikd | obviously there aren't any that are written correctly |
| 22:44.07 | cog|work | like i said, "collective you"... you're definitely not the only person i've seen using override bindings when normal bindings would do (better) |
| 22:44.38 | foxlit | quick, fix the "i've seen" implication |
| 22:45.11 | foxlit | Unless of course you've been reading my code? [Doubt it, you still appear to be breathing] |
| 22:45.15 | cog|work | s/seen using/witnessed using or suggesting use of/ |
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| 22:47.05 | cog|work | hai Lopeppeppy |
| 22:47.25 | foxlit | hm, actually, it doesn't appear to be trivial |
| 22:47.36 | foxlit | texture slicing and lack of parenting makes for a rather nasty removal :( |
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| 22:50.19 | cog|work | cleartype should use standard antialiasing in the vertical direction... Large characters look silly with smooth sides and jaggy tops/bottoms |
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| 22:51.25 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Cogwheel. |
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| 22:53.59 | bleeter | is it my imagination, or does photobucket look like it's gone got hacked? |
| 22:54.10 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet. I dunno. |
| 22:55.36 | erikd | does anyone happen to know of a utility like lsof for windows? |
| 22:56.22 | oreth| | erikd: hit windows + r |
| 22:56.24 | oreth| | cmd |
| 22:56.40 | oreth| | and then type |
| 22:56.55 | oreth| | ia -madu -mbass |
| 22:57.24 | erikd | right... |
| 22:57.33 | erikd | do i hit alt + f4 after that? |
| 22:57.50 | oreth| | type /join #2,000 and i'll tell you |
| 22:58.06 | erikd | if only i used mirc :) |
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| 22:58.19 | oreth| | so many people fall for that |
| 22:58.24 | oreth| | props to you |
| 22:58.33 | erikd | i'm no newbie |
| 22:58.34 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 22:58.51 | Shirik | fall for what? |
| 22:58.53 | Shirik | I probably will |
| 22:59.00 | erikd | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.03 | pastamancer | erikd: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx |
| 22:59.12 | erikd | thanks :) |
| 22:59.35 | erikd | i didn't know that displayed files as well |
| 22:59.46 | nevcairiel | process explorer is the win |
| 22:59.59 | pastamancer | that it is |
| 23:00.36 | bleeter | oO PTR forum's up |
| 23:00.44 | nevcairiel | 2.4.3 inc? |
| 23:00.48 | cog|work | think so |
| 23:01.01 | cog|work | slouken mentioned that http exploit's fixed in 243 |
| 23:01.11 | MentalPower | http exploit? |
| 23:01.19 | ScytheBlade1 | No real details here |
| 23:01.20 | nevcairiel | better you dont know :P |
| 23:01.27 | ScytheBlade1 | But access any site you please |
| 23:01.32 | cog|work | allowed access to external sites |
| 23:01.35 | wereHamster | pastamancer, not only can't microsoft create a consistent UI, they can't even consistently spell their company name. The screenshot on that webpage contains 'Microsoft Corporation' and 'Microsoft (R) Corporation' |
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| 23:03.33 | bleeter | wonder if they'll update Launcher with some new trojan detection ;) |
| 23:11.35 | foxlit | capped farclip makes baby foxes cry :( |
| 23:11.57 | oreth| | ... |
| 23:11.58 | bleeter | someone else is saying they're seeing photobucket as hacked, but others aren't. most odd. |
| 23:12.07 | oreth| | your words are most certainly english, yet they make no sense. |
| 23:12.21 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 23:13.03 | foxlit | I'm trying to get a scenic shot in nagrand |
| 23:13.09 | foxlit | The purple fog is spoiling everything |
| 23:13.18 | Dashkal | bleeter: I've been getting DNS failures for it all day |
| 23:13.20 | oreth| | Purple Haze? |
| 23:13.43 | foxlit | anyway, rendering distance is controllable in WoW |
| 23:14.15 | foxlit | There's a console variable called farclip that allows you to change how close scenery has to be to you for it to render |
| 23:14.21 | Shirik | Anyone know what "Vista N" is? |
| 23:14.41 | foxlit | Unfortunately, there's a maximum value that variable can take, and it's still not far enough |
| 23:15.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Far enough for what? |
| 23:15.32 | foxlit | Far enough for happiness. |
| 23:15.58 | oreth| | ... |
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| 23:17.15 | nevcairiel | Shirik: i know some versions of Vista have been marked with a capital N (Vista BUSINESSN for example) to mark a special EU version to conform to EU laws, not including internet explorer and media player |
| 23:17.24 | foxlit | Shirik: without media player et al to statisfyEU? |
| 23:17.28 | Shirik | ah |
| 23:17.38 | Shirik | I just saw it here and I was wondering what it was |
| 23:17.43 | Shirik | no IE?! |
| 23:17.46 | Shirik | unpossible |
| 23:17.49 | foxlit | Doubt that |
| 23:17.58 | foxlit | no WMP, though |
| 23:17.58 | nevcairiel | those versions of windows supposedly dont work right |
| 23:18.03 | MentalPower | theres IE |
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| 23:18.09 | MentalPower | just no WMP or WMM |
| 23:18.41 | foxlit | http://www.google.com/search?q=%22vista%20n%22 turns up results just fine, it seems |
| 23:18.55 | nevcairiel | yeah shirik abuses us for googling |
| 23:19.04 | Shirik | the google results didn't make sense to me :P |
| 23:19.25 | Lunessa | http://kotaku.com/5017287/meet-the-sniper |
| 23:19.26 | Shirik | all I got was guy complaining "lol vista n sucks" and some comment with "no it doesnt u sux" |
| 23:19.29 | nevcairiel | I wonder why the EU was so bitchy about WMP |
| 23:19.41 | MentalPower | "Windows Vista N Editions--Vista Home Basic N and Vista Business N--will mirror the Vista Home Basic and Vista Business versions, respectively, but will not include Windows Media Player and other media-related functionality." |
| 23:19.51 | Lunessa | Wheeee! |
| 23:19.55 | nevcairiel | you can easily configure another media player to associate itself with the files |
| 23:20.26 | MentalPower | (or install WMP) |
| 23:20.29 | Shirik | supposedly it's for anti-trust reasons |
| 23:20.38 | MentalPower | they're still available, just not built-in |
| 23:21.01 | MentalPower | Shirik is correct, it was for anti-trust issues |
| 23:21.17 | foxlit | accomplished nothing, ultimately |
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| 23:22.33 | Shirik | that's interesting though |
| 23:23.44 | Shirik | hm, someone says you can't install WMP on Vista N |
| 23:24.08 | foxlit | That'd be even more pointless |
| 23:24.17 | Shirik | but this is from random Joe's blog and the guy can't write worth a damn |
| 23:24.20 | Shirik | so I don't exactly trust it |
| 23:24.28 | MentalPower | I don't think thats true |
| 23:24.40 | ScytheBlade1 | And there is 2 million firefox downloads |
| 23:24.45 | kd3 | rofl, fark: [Cool] Armed and permitted gun owner stops a bank robbery, forces robber to sit in time-out chair until police arrive |
| 23:25.12 | bleeter | wine's gone final 1.0 |
| 23:25.12 | Shirik | firefox 3 is released finally? |
| 23:25.16 | bleeter | yup |
| 23:25.17 | kd3 | yes t oboth |
| 23:25.23 | Shirik | fine |
| 23:25.24 | Shirik | fun* |
| 23:25.29 | Shirik | fun + wine = fine >.> |
| 23:27.09 | kd3 | even farkier... [Amusing] Mom has six-year-old son fill out application for credit card and sign it himself just as a test. Since you're reading about this on Fark, you can guess what happened next |
| 23:27.23 | Shirik | :( auto-update doesn't work on my version of firefox |
| 23:27.25 | Shirik | "AUS: Update XML File Malformed (200)" |
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| 23:27.41 | ScytheBlade1 | DDoS |
| 23:27.51 | Shirik | huh? |
| 23:27.54 | Sixen | So.. Anyone running FireFox atm? |
| 23:28.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Everyone and then some downloading it :P |
| 23:28.07 | Sixen | Mmm |
| 23:28.07 | Shirik | oh, fair enough |
| 23:28.11 | Shirik | I thought I was late |
| 23:28.15 | ScytheBlade1 | nah |
| 23:28.15 | Sixen | Can you do me a favor and go to Help -> Check for updates and tell me what happens |
| 23:28.23 | Shirik | Sixen: Look up like 10 lines |
| 23:28.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Sixen: same thing Shirik said |
| 23:28.32 | nevcairiel | (01:27:19) (@Shirik) "AUS: Update XML File Malformed (200)" |
| 23:28.42 | nevcairiel | (sixen came in after that line) |
| 23:28.43 | Sixen | I just came back :( |
| 23:28.44 | Sixen | Ah ok1 |
| 23:28.45 | Shirik | oh |
| 23:28.47 | Shirik | sorry :) |
| 23:28.51 | kd3 | hm... since I've got nothing to do, I think I'm going to install f9 |
| 23:28.52 | Sixen | I've been getting that and going crazy because I couldn't fix it,; ). |
| 23:28.57 | Sixen | Oh and Kd3, WINE 1.0 came out. |
| 23:29.02 | nevcairiel | download a installer |
| 23:29.04 | kd3 | saw. happy camper |
| 23:29.05 | Sixen | And... PTR Forums are back up. |
| 23:29.08 | kd3 | o_O; |
| 23:29.16 | Sixen | Mmm, came on not long ago. |
| 23:29.35 | Sixen | People made a bunch of posts and hortus cleaned it out except for the thread I made.. Meaning the PTR is coming soon. |
| 23:29.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Up here |
| 23:30.04 | kd3 | 2.4.3 next tuesday, prolly |
| 23:30.11 | Sixen | For sure. |
| 23:31.31 | kd3 | good grief, 4 pages already |
| 23:31.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoa |
| 23:32.01 | ScytheBlade1 | If the linked screenshot is real |
| 23:32.01 | ScytheBlade1 | http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg211/Fersinji/LOL/WoWScrnShot_021008_164056.jpg |
| 23:32.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Good times ahead |
| 23:32.32 | kd3 | I see no ss |
| 23:32.40 | ScytheBlade1 | page 3 |
| 23:32.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Quoted in the top of page 3 |
| 23:33.25 | Sixen | Yeah :/ |
| 23:33.31 | nevcairiel | didnt they do some vote concerning tokens etc? a looong while back? |
| 23:33.34 | kd3 | photobucket's being stupid then |
| 23:33.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Let me save it and upload it |
| 23:34.04 | bleeter | phtobucket's been hacked or something, bad dns records aybe |
| 23:34.06 | bleeter | maybe |
| 23:34.19 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/misc/token.jpg |
| 23:34.37 | kd3 | k3b |
| 23:34.38 | kd3 | bah |
| 23:34.41 | Sixen | Mmmm, anyone know what the Security Token is about? |
| 23:34.45 | Sixen | Someone fill me in ;/ |
| 23:34.49 | ScytheBlade1 | RSA Secure Tokens I'd imagine |
| 23:35.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Used by banks largely, to ensure secure access to websites |
| 23:35.52 | Sixen | Ah, true. That's where i've seen that, ^_^ |
| 23:35.52 | kd3 | work too. |
| 23:35.58 | Sixen | My bank uses that. |
| 23:36.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Same thing, yeah |
| 23:36.40 | Sixen | :P |
| 23:36.57 | Shirik | I remember someone showing me once that wine had a list of "compatibile" programs and they were listed like "gold" "silver" etc |
| 23:37.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Good decision in the long run |
| 23:37.02 | Shirik | does anyone know wtf I'm talking about? |
| 23:37.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: appdb.winehq.org |
| 23:37.07 | kd3 | Shirik, http://appdb.winehq.org |
| 23:37.10 | Shirik | <3 |
| 23:37.38 | kd3 | wow's entry: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=11329 |
| 23:38.48 | ckknight | hrm, is there a brief intro to Blizzard's config menu? |
| 23:39.14 | ScytheBlade1 | ckknight: the addon ones? page 19 of the 2.4 thread iirc |
| 23:39.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Either that or 11 |
| 23:39.20 | ckknight | ugh |
| 23:39.29 | cladhaire | you just add a panel using the API functions |
| 23:39.46 | Sixen | What's up with those ratings ? Lawl. |
| 23:40.03 | kd3 | gack... |
| 23:40.05 | ckknight | I'm more wondering if they're sanely documented somewhere like wowwiki or wowprogramming |
| 23:40.06 | kd3 | azureus is no more |
| 23:40.15 | cladhaire | ckknight: there's only the two functions, so there's not much to document |
| 23:40.28 | cladhaire | but i'll be doing a writeup on them at wowprogramming |
| 23:40.32 | ScytheBlade1 | ckknight: sec |
| 23:41.02 | ScytheBlade1 | ckknight: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&sid=1&pageNo=15#294 |
| 23:41.32 | ckknight | thank you, ScytheBlade1 |
| 23:41.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Was page 15 =[ |
| 23:41.59 | foxlit | UIOptionsFrame.lua |
| 23:42.04 | foxlit | -- HOWTO: Add new categories of options |
| 23:42.33 | ckknight | thank you, foxlit |
| 23:43.46 | Gnarfoz | what was that circular menu thingy called someone from in here made? |
| 23:44.54 | kd3 | la-de-da... c'mon k3b... finish verifying the media |
| 23:45.13 | Sixen | kd3 <3's k3b? |
| 23:45.17 | kd3 | yes |
| 23:45.17 | Sixen | ./confuse |
| 23:45.43 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3 <3's k3b which is a kde app |
| 23:45.50 | ScytheBlade1 | I wonder how much more confusing we could make that |
| 23:45.55 | Sixen | Rofl |
| 23:46.08 | Gnarfoz | no one? :| |
| 23:46.18 | Sixen | PhD kd3 <3's k3b which is a kde app that can be found on his USB. |
| 23:46.19 | Sixen | :o |
| 23:46.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Gnarfoz: secure pie template |
| 23:46.30 | Gnarfoz | ScytheBlade1: yeah, it uses that. |
| 23:46.37 | kd3 | wai for pie? |
| 23:46.44 | Sixen | fake 4 cake |
| 23:47.34 | Gnarfoz | ~logs |
| 23:47.34 | purl | it has been said that logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 23:49.11 | foxlit | Because I lack imagination, it's called OPie |
| 23:49.17 | Lunessa | renewing user accounts... DULL |
| 23:50.03 | foxlit | Feel free to take your pick pronouncing it as "Oh, pie [mmm!]", "Oh, Pie! [as in: Oh, @#$@!]", "O Ï", or most other variations |
| 23:50.50 | Gnarfoz | I'd much rather remember the link to it than deciding on pronounciations |
| 23:50.51 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
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| 23:51.41 | Lunessa | foxlit: I prefer to think of it as a little redhead brat from Mayberry... |
| 23:52.15 | foxlit | http://www.spirit-dreams.net/or/ , though that's a bit out of date and is moving soon |
| 23:53.03 | Gnarfoz | yay! |
| 23:53.36 | foxlit | And it's going to have to be in WSG :/ |
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