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| 00:01.18 | Hjalte | DARKGuy: What exactly are you looking for? Something to help you sort your searches, or something that scans the auction house etc. for you? |
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| 00:02.23 | DARKGuy | Hjalte, Why should it scan the auction house for me? :P I only type what I need and it shows it :P ... sorting would be good, but more importantly, there's only a few items shown by page (thinner list items would rock) and the buyout confirmation dialog sometimes annoys me too :P |
| 00:02.44 | DARKGuy | Let's just say the interface is just clunky x.x |
| 00:02.59 | DARKGuy | you can't move or even enlarge it :( |
| 00:03.11 | Hjalte | DARKGuy: Try out BaudAuction, I like it at least. It doesn't have any scan features, but it sorts stuff nicely and makes it more compact. It's on Curse. |
| 00:04.47 | DARKGuy | Hm, looks pretty nice for my taste, guess I'll try it soon, thanks Hjalte ^_^ |
| 00:08.09 | DARKGuy | Hm, I wonder if I could actually modify the auction frame, just like BaudAuction does... |
| 00:08.20 | DARKGuy | like, hook into it, or modify it just like any frame... |
| 00:08.22 | DARKGuy | make it resizable :D |
| 00:10.37 | bleeter | doesn't fluidframes allow you to resize any frame, not just AH? |
| 00:11.03 | DARKGuy | now that you mention it, I haven't tested it yet |
| 00:12.23 | bleeter | 6to be brutally honest, I've not used it, just have the impression that's one of the things that addon's meant to do |
| 00:12.42 | DARKGuy | And it does :P |
| 00:19.02 | bleeter | god, I hope they fix the 'too many in instance' somehow for heroics in WotLK. EG, group of 5 go in to do the druid quest, one member DC's inside instance, can't get back in. Group subs in someone else after chatting to dc'd person on 'phone, instance server see 6 inside instance, can't complete. have to come back tomorrow. |
| 00:19.46 | DARKGuy | ouch. |
| 00:19.51 | DARKGuy | I learnt that Fluid != Liquid. |
| 00:20.14 | DARKGuy | If FluidFrames is Fluid, then it must have been a solidified fluid, like cement. |
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| 00:20.19 | DARKGuy | It's clunky, buggy, horrible. |
| 00:20.24 | DARKGuy | Damn blizzard. |
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| 00:21.19 | DARKGuy | MoveAnything was so nice :'(, boo-hoo |
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| 00:30.55 | bleeter | â |
| 00:31.19 | Lunessa | MoveAnything? That AddOn was like stuffing broken glass into an open wound and trying to walk. |
| 00:32.23 | DARKGuy | yeah, like FluidFrames was to me a few moments ago |
| 00:33.01 | DARKGuy | Difference is, I couldn't even walk XD |
| 00:37.14 | Drundia | what so bad could FluidFrames do to you? |
| 00:37.38 | NightHawkTheSane | FluidFrames at his children. |
| 00:42.05 | DARKGuy | Well, it killed my character frame x.x |
| 00:43.54 | DARKGuy | yay I got it back. Deleting specific savedvariables ftw |
| 00:44.06 | Nechckn | what character frames are you using? |
| 00:44.34 | bleeter | yeah, I doubt that it specifically killed it, given it's in wide distribution... but... who knows |
| 00:45.01 | DARKGuy | Nechckn, well, the default blizz one, where you change gear and all |
| 00:45.11 | DARKGuy | turns out I tried to move the frame, like any human would |
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| 00:45.24 | DARKGuy | but it didn't move, instead I grabbed something else, dunno, the frame just looked weird |
| 00:45.32 | DARKGuy | I started clicking around with both buttons everywhere |
| 00:45.50 | DARKGuy | and then all of a sudden I was getting a "ghosted" untextured character frame tab |
| 00:46.20 | DARKGuy | I said, F it, and deleted the addon, then I couldn't get my character frame back, it wasn't appearing anymore - but other tabs were working correctly |
| 00:46.38 | DARKGuy | so it turns out that there was a stray FluidFrames.lua specifying some zeroed coordinates for such tab -.-" |
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| 00:47.31 | DARKGuy | So I just installed MoveAnything, and it's working like the old one, awesome ^_^ |
| 00:49.12 | kd3 | wtf... fark: [Scary] Today's crane accident brought to you by Dallas, TX. EVERYBODY PANIC |
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| 00:54.26 | bleeter | haha http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7116412102&sid=1&pageNo=8#141 |
| 00:58.28 | bleeter | omg it's AlexanderYoshi ... everyone flee!! |
| 00:58.34 | bleeter | s/flee/say hai/ |
| 00:58.41 | bleeter | easy mistake to make |
| 00:58.51 | bleeter | :P |
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| 01:13.19 | Drundia | i think it should be "say hai and begin to flee before he realizes that you are fleeing" |
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| 01:15.11 | AlexanderYoshi | I should kick bleeter for his insufferable supplication |
| 01:15.51 | bleeter | meh, I've been kicked around enough this week ingame, an IRC kick won't hurt at all |
| 01:15.54 | bleeter | ;) :P |
| 01:16.04 | bleeter | reminds me, though, I should set up a timer on the autorejoin |
| 01:17.40 | Lukian | <DARKGuy> So I just installed MoveAnything, and it's working like the old one, awesome ^_^ <- how exactly is a terrible addon, awesome? |
| 01:17.44 | Lopeppeppy | Why hello, AlexanderYoshi!! |
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| 01:27.31 | AlexanderYoshi | Hello Lopeppeppy. |
| 01:27.45 | AlexanderYoshi | You enjoying beating down the souls of the poor, young innocents at your college? |
| 01:31.09 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, yes I am. And in Hyjal, tonight. |
| 01:34.12 | AlexanderYoshi | In your Hyj... ah, nevermind. |
| 01:34.30 | AlexanderYoshi | You are truely evil. |
| 01:36.05 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, yes I am! Bwah-ha-ha |
| 01:36.54 | Drundia | truely evil people will soon rule the world! |
| 01:37.27 | Lopeppeppy | We already knew I ruled. *preens* |
| 01:38.32 | Drundia | pffff |
| 01:38.37 | Drundia | again i'm the last to be informed |
| 01:38.59 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, just ask around here in channel. |
| 01:39.04 | DARKGuy | Lukian, well, FluidFrames was terrible imho. MoveAnything just plain works |
| 01:39.17 | DARKGuy | I don't see what's horrible about it o, |
| 01:39.18 | DARKGuy | o,o |
| 01:39.22 | Lukian | DARKGuy, tried logging in combat? |
| 01:39.31 | Lukian | in in* |
| 01:41.49 | hi11ie | I try to stay away from stuff called "MoveAnything" |
| 01:42.03 | hi11ie | last time I used something with a name like that I had a minimap covering my entire screen |
| 01:42.20 | Drundia | at what point do you get PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED if you log in in combat? |
| 01:46.35 | JoshBorke | Drundia: after PEW, i'm pretty sure |
| 01:49.31 | Drundia | starting combat after pew sounds logical for many different meanings of pew :) |
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| 01:51.24 | Kaso | i seem to remeber them saying if you log in in combat then you get a peroid of un-locked downness of the secure frames to do your stuff before you get thrown into combat |
| 01:52.26 | Kaso | so that carries on the "after pew" thing people have been saying |
| 01:54.59 | Drundia | i know that at vars_loaded it's still unlocked, but some addons seem to fail do some stuff during login process... |
| 02:00.29 | hi11ie | can you do friends searches in PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD? i'm getting occasional errors that GetFriendInfo(x) is nil but the code also runs on the friends update event and works fine |
| 02:10.08 | JoshBorke | hi11ie: the result from GetFriendInfo is probably nil until a proper request is sent for the information |
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| 02:12.26 | DARKGuy | o_O I haven't gotten any of those weird combat stuff. In fact, I just did all of ZA with MoveAnything enabled and nothing happened :P |
| 02:13.30 | DARKGuy | I didn't try to move any frame in combat though o,o |
| 02:13.34 | DARKGuy | Addon page said not to |
| 02:14.04 | DARKGuy | And it's ok since I can't move the character/spellbook/similar frames in combat |
| 02:14.22 | DARKGuy | Not with a keybinding at least |
| 02:19.40 | Drundia | you can StartMoving() and StopMovingOrSizing() all frames any time |
| 02:20.47 | Lukian | DARKGuy, with NDragIt I can move those easily (in combat) |
| 02:23.42 | DARKGuy | Lukian, but they reset when you close them |
| 02:23.53 | [Liquidor] | http://upload.wowhead.com/images/screenshots/24424.jpg |
| 02:23.55 | Lukian | DARKGuy, I like that :) |
| 02:24.09 | DARKGuy | I don't xD |
| 02:24.15 | DARKGuy | lol [Liquidor] |
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| 02:32.10 | Drundia | grrr, how do they manage to screw precision as it comes to saving and loading numbers? (SV) |
| 02:34.54 | Drundia | saved number should be 40, in previous version of SV it was 40.00010639443306, in new one it's 40.00010669245708 when it shouldn't really have any rounding errors around integers and cool 0.8888888888888888 and 0.8 stay the way they are... |
| 02:35.46 | Drundia | that is provided that i didn't mess up something somewhere..... |
| 02:35.50 | Drundia | grrrr |
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| 02:51.17 | Lopeppeppy | Archi fight. Ug-leeee |
| 03:06.42 | Lopeppeppy | Thanks. There's this big headache with Noobie written all over it... |
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| 03:11.30 | Kaso | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Target+near+MA+02149&ie=UTF8&ll=42.39909,-71.07076&spn=0.006235,0.009398&t=h&z=17&iwloc=A |
| 03:11.42 | Kaso | Hah, Target store has a giant target painted on the roof |
| 03:12.04 | kd3 | meh, the one right by hartsfield in atlanta does to |
| 03:13.11 | kd3 | too* http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Target+near+MA+02149&ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=33.658942,-84.50218&spn=0.010591,0.019505&z=16&iwloc=A |
| 03:17.37 | Kaso | Thats cool i think |
| 03:21.52 | |Jelly| | The one by my house doesn't :( |
| 03:22.20 | Lopeppeppy | The one closest to me had a fire a few months back, I bet their target is charred!! |
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| 03:26.19 | Thunder_Child | what you dont know is that target is secretly owned by china and each store is equiped with a homing signal in case of nuclear war...the large target painted on top is just insult on injury. |
| 03:26.28 | Lopeppeppy | sweet |
| 03:26.40 | Lunessa | It's like a biblical ending or something... |
| 03:27.35 | Lunessa | And on that note, I'm closing up the shop and heading home. Ciao tutti. |
| 03:28.25 | Kaso | lol Thunder_Child :d |
| 03:30.31 | kd3 | wth? a rollercoaster with a 97 degree drop? |
| 03:30.37 | kd3 | falling back towards the lift hill? |
| 03:30.50 | sacarasc | that sounds awesome |
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| 03:39.28 | Thunder_Child | kd3, it's only for a few seconds but the end G force is ~6 iirc |
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| 04:31.29 | Tekkub | someone explain to me the point of Second Life |
| 04:31.41 | Tekkub | WoW I understand.. there are clear objectives and rewards... |
| 04:31.42 | Thunder_Child | to make money |
| 04:31.45 | Najwa | Free time. People had too much of it. |
| 04:32.11 | Thunder_Child | s/money/money for the creating company/ |
| 04:32.33 | Najwa | But, Tekkub, those objectives and rewards are so "close-ended". |
| 04:32.56 | Tekkub | so? it's something to do, a reason to play |
| 04:33.08 | Tekkub | SL just seems like... one big 3D whiteboard |
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| 04:33.47 | Thunder_Child | Tekkub, same reason you have to play WoW i assume others have to play second life |
| 04:33.55 | Thunder_Child | reason(s)* |
| 04:33.59 | Najwa | Surely a thousand, thousand monkeys sitting at keyboards with an open-ended environment to futz around in could come up with their own amorphous, adaptive system of rewards and objectives superiour to *any* game with 'rules'. |
| 04:34.10 | Najwa | ... or at least that might have been the thinking. |
| 04:34.14 | Arrowmaster | hmm has anybody ever taken a really good look at ChatFrame.lua and noticed that somebody at blizzard really fails at lua pattern matching? |
| 04:34.38 | Tekkub | So the thought was... we'll make us an MMO where we don't have to do anything but create the engine |
| 04:34.46 | Tekkub | let the players make their own game? |
| 04:34.54 | Najwa | Mm, yeah, more or less. |
| 04:35.05 | Arrowmaster | local team, name = strmatch(msg, "^(%d+)[%w+%d+]*%s+(.*)"); |
| 04:35.05 | Tekkub | well that's dumb, then you know how it ends |
| 04:35.14 | Tekkub | if you know the ending, why play? |
| 04:35.22 | Najwa | And I'm sure that for isolated groups for a time it works. We practically had to do that in Shadowbane. |
| 04:35.38 | Drundia | Arrowmaster, what a weird pattern |
| 04:35.51 | Arrowmaster | local channel, player = strmatch(msg, "%s*([^%s]+)%s*(.*)"); |
| 04:36.21 | Drundia | [%w+%d+] is awesome especially |
| 04:36.26 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 04:36.40 | Najwa | It's all geek to me, but, yes, I'm impressed. |
| 04:36.42 | Thunder_Child | Tekkub, it is not about the destination, young grasshopper, it is about the journy |
| 04:37.04 | Tekkub | but there is no journey if you don't have a destination |
| 04:37.13 | Tekkub | it's just meandering! |
| 04:37.23 | Najwa | And, Tekkub, while I have a small fragment of your attention, I recognise your name and thank you. <3 |
| 04:37.31 | Thunder_Child | nope, your wandering aimlessly...but your still have a journy |
| 04:37.32 | Tekkub | :P |
| 04:37.44 | Thunder_Child | s/your/you/ |
| 04:37.57 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 04:38.01 | Thunder_Child | ~lart purl |
| 04:38.01 | purl | resizes thunder_child's terminal to 40x24 |
| 04:38.08 | Thunder_Child | damit |
| 04:38.15 | Dashkal | ewwww, that's an evil one |
| 04:38.20 | Drundia | "%s*([^%s]+)%s*(.*)" is better but should likely be a bit simplier: "%s*(%S+)%s*(.*)", or even "(%S+)%s*(.*)" |
| 04:38.51 | Najwa | Destinations aren't necessarily reached, but sometimes being sidetracked is fun or interesting-- there's a word for it: Serendipity. |
| 04:38.59 | Arrowmaster | the 'local team, name = strmatch(msg, "^(%d+)[%w+%d+]*%s+(.*)");' seems to be an attempt at matching '2 name' or '2v2 name' kinda stuff when they could have used 'local team, name = strmatch(msg, "^(%d+)%S*%s+(.*)");' |
| 04:39.10 | Tekkub | no, the word is tangent |
| 04:39.42 | Najwa | Tangents can lead nowhere fun or interesting, though. Serendipity is finding something *good* you weren't looking for. |
| 04:40.04 | Najwa | (Can, or cannot. Grrr, can't express myself fer shite.) |
| 04:40.05 | Drundia | Arrowmaster, or 2vghj235khgkj name |
| 04:40.10 | Tekkub | so what you're saying is, if you discover you're a furry from playing second life... you won? |
| 04:40.17 | Tekkub | but I already know I'm a furry |
| 04:40.20 | Najwa | ... |
| 04:40.47 | Arrowmaster | TMI |
| 04:41.00 | Drundia | it matches numbers follwed by letters or numbers or plus signs until space |
| 04:41.04 | Najwa | "Oh, I could stand to hear a little more." -- Jayne |
| 04:42.20 | Arrowmaster | Drundia: now i want to reinstall one of the asian clients to see if they use the same patterns in them |
| 04:43.36 | Tekkub | Arrowmaster, how is that TMI? Don't make me all cockvore on you |
| 04:45.42 | Drundia | but [%w+%d+] fails especially because + has no special meaning inside [] and serves no real purpose there, unless i missed something again.... |
| 04:45.47 | Najwa | I, too, used to laugh at the idea of furries. Then I found myself around a guy at a convention who was actually dressed *up* as something... furry... and the urge to pet him was irresistible. I blush at the recollection. |
| 04:46.01 | Tekkub | [%w%d]+ |
| 04:46.03 | Najwa | ...or, at anything that reminds me of the recollection. |
| 04:46.20 | Drundia | lua> print(("2qwe34+ada qwerty"):match(^(%d+)[%w+%d+]*%s+(.*))) |
| 04:46.21 | lua_bot | Drundia: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '^' |
| 04:46.32 | Drundia | lua> print(("2qwe34+ada qwerty"):match("^(%d+)[%w+%d+]*%s+(.*)")) |
| 04:46.32 | lua_bot | Drundia: 2, qwerty |
| 04:46.52 | Tekkub | lua> print(("2qwe34+ada qwerty"):match("^(%d+)[%w%d]*%s+(.*)")) |
| 04:46.52 | lua_bot | Tekkub: nil |
| 04:46.53 | Drundia | lua> print(("2qwe34-ada qwerty"):match("^(%d+)[%w+%d+]*%s+(.*)")) |
| 04:46.54 | lua_bot | Drundia: nil |
| 04:47.15 | Tekkub | what exactly do you want? |
| 04:47.28 | Thunder_Child | "Cockvore is a fetish and paraphilia where arousal occurs from the idea of being eaten, eating another, or watching this process." no Tekkub, i dont want you to do that at all |
| 04:47.46 | Drundia | i want proper patterns in blizzard code apparently |
| 04:47.52 | Najwa | I don't want to hear "Mein Teil", either. |
| 04:47.54 | Tekkub | ah the fun of people looking it up |
| 04:47.59 | Drundia | just like Arrowmaster it seems |
| 04:48.02 | Thunder_Child | not fun for us |
| 04:48.06 | Tekkub | lua doesn't do full regex |
| 04:48.15 | Tekkub | what do you want to get from the string? |
| 04:48.36 | ScytheBlade1 | lua does "lua pattern matching" |
| 04:48.55 | ScytheBlade1 | It does /not/ do "standard regex" |
| 04:48.56 | Arrowmaster | first number from the first word and the full second word |
| 04:49.23 | Arrowmaster | i already posted a better pattern |
| 04:49.24 | Tekkub | (%d)%d+(%w+)%d |
| 04:49.35 | Arrowmaster | bad |
| 04:49.49 | Tekkub | yea doesn't need the end %d does it |
| 04:49.56 | Arrowmaster | dont use %w especially in bliz code |
| 04:50.06 | Arrowmaster | "^(%d+)%S*%s+(.*)" |
| 04:50.06 | Tekkub | true |
| 04:50.22 | Tekkub | (%d+)(%D+) |
| 04:51.14 | Arrowmaster | i wont even begin to go into how that one fails |
| 04:51.20 | Drundia | (%d+).-%s(.*) |
| 04:51.26 | Tekkub | good cause I don't care :P |
| 04:51.55 | Arrowmaster | i dont know why they used %d+ though |
| 04:52.03 | Drundia | wasn't %w including numbers? |
| 04:52.23 | Drundia | lua> print(("1"):match("%w")) |
| 04:52.23 | lua_bot | Drundia: 1 |
| 04:52.35 | Tekkub | yea I think %w is [a-zA-z0--9] |
| 04:52.39 | Drundia | now "%d%w" seems even worse |
| 04:52.50 | Drundia | [%d%w] even |
| 04:53.03 | Arrowmaster | [%w+%d+]* is what it is |
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| 04:53.21 | Drundia | lua> print(("_"):match("%w")) |
| 04:53.21 | lua_bot | Drundia: nil |
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| 04:54.43 | Arrowmaster | %w is actually perty bad to use for wow unless your sure that its what you want |
| 04:55.00 | Arrowmaster | lua> print(("Ã "):match("%w")) |
| 04:55.01 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: nil |
| 04:55.53 | Drundia | i used [%w\128-\255] when i needed to match names |
| 04:56.13 | Tekkub | lua> t = ""; for i=1,255 do if string.match(string.char(i), "%w") then t = t .. string.char(i) end end print(t) |
| 04:56.13 | lua_bot | Tekkub: 0123456789ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz |
| 04:56.17 | Tekkub | there you are |
| 04:56.29 | Tekkub | [0-9a-zA-Z] |
| 04:57.38 | Drundia | "The definitions of letter, space, and other character groups depend on the current locale. In particular, the class [a-z] may not be equivalent to %l." |
| 04:58.09 | Tekkub | pfft, Engrish is the only REAL locale |
| 04:58.31 | Arrowmaster | wow is unicode so so doesnt get effected by the systems locale |
| 04:58.54 | Drundia | i know that upper() and lower() deal properly with most utf-8 characters in wow |
| 04:59.05 | Arrowmaster | no they dont |
| 04:59.14 | Drundia | they actually did for me |
| 04:59.34 | Drundia | i used some random acuted and cyrillica characters |
| 04:59.42 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
| 04:59.48 | Tekkub | I have an acuted ass |
| 04:59.51 | Drundia | but there are exceptions |
| 05:00.13 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.upper("Ã ") |
| 05:00.13 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: Ã |
| 05:00.26 | Drundia | and now the same in wow |
| 05:00.39 | Arrowmaster | i dont want to spend time starting wow |
| 05:00.44 | Tekkub | lua> string.upper("ø") |
| 05:00.44 | lua_bot | Tekkub: ø |
| 05:01.02 | Drundia | in my wow it works |
| 05:01.10 | Tekkub | yea it works in wow |
| 05:01.22 | Tekkub | lua bot is just DEFFECTIVE |
| 05:01.47 | Arrowmaster | wish slouken would tell us all the wow specific changes theyve made to lua |
| 05:02.11 | Tekkub | maybe if you rub his beard just right? |
| 05:02.31 | Iriel | AFAIK it's taint, profiling, some string functions, and that's more or less it. |
| 05:03.11 | Arrowmaster | well i know he fixed some bug in the bitlib they use |
| 05:03.14 | Tekkub | the GC tweaks are just done by calling collectgarbage() aren't they? |
| 05:03.29 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 05:03.39 | Arrowmaster | or changing the defaults before compiling |
| 05:04.01 | Tekkub | ah yea, I forget about the "my code is compiling" excuse |
| 05:04.12 | Tekkub | damn my living in a world of only lua and ruby |
| 05:04.23 | Iriel | well, I had to fix bugs in bitlib to get it to work on OSX too |
| 05:04.25 | Drundia | it fails to upper() all ukrainian letters, but it doesn't fail at russian Ñ despite it being in the same situation as poor pure ukrainian ÑÑÑÒ.... wtb fix.... |
| 05:12.05 | Drundia | Iriel, can we get all cyrillic characters lower()'able and upper()'able? :) |
| 05:13.03 | Drundia | and of course the game should once learn to copy and paste characters not from current locale..... |
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| 05:14.29 | Arrowmaster | try /run local tmp=""; for l,u in pairs(utf8_lc_uc) do if l:upper() ~= u then tmp=tmp..l end end DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(tmp) |
| 05:14.40 | Arrowmaster | assuming you have UTF8 lib installed |
| 05:17.37 | Drundia | U+401 is uppercase for U+451 (works), but also U+402 to U+40F are uppercase for U+452 to U+452 (0x50 difference between unicode positions), then there are U+490 to U+4E9 which are uppercase at even positions immediately followed by their lowercase counterparts. |
| 05:17.53 | Drundia | shouldn't be hard to implement really |
| 05:18.28 | Drundia | U+410 to U+44F are all correct apparently |
| 05:18.30 | Arrowmaster | what client are you on that the font supports cyrillic? |
| 05:18.49 | Drundia | arialn.ttf should have it |
| 05:19.00 | Drundia | so you should see it in chat frames |
| 05:19.19 | Arrowmaster | arialn.ttf is weird, i swear ive input stuff that the font has only to get a ? showing up |
| 05:20.31 | Arrowmaster | like ââââââââ |
| 05:20.36 | Arrowmaster | i swear that doesnt work |
| 05:22.43 | Drundia | then put a different font somewhere... they are the weirdest thing you can put them nearly anywhere around wow.exe and they work..... |
| 05:24.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: ping |
| 05:24.52 | Iriel | ? |
| 05:25.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Mind if I PM you? |
| 05:25.05 | Drundia | and Arrowmaster, pasting characters that aren't in your system locale won't work in wow |
| 05:25.11 | Iriel | depends what you say, doesn't it? 8-) |
| 05:25.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Hehe, true :) |
| 05:25.27 | Drundia | because system doesn't treat it as unicode app it seems |
| 05:25.40 | Arrowmaster | Drundia: huh |
| 05:25.41 | Arrowmaster | thats weird |
| 05:27.10 | Arrowmaster | ive been tempted to replace arialn.ttf with arialuni.ttf |
| 05:27.16 | Drundia | that was even supposed to be fixed in some patch according to patch notes |
| 05:27.55 | Arrowmaster | ah ha |
| 05:28.15 | Arrowmaster | arialn.ttf from wow isnt the same as the arialn.ttf in my C:\Windows\Fonts |
| 05:29.03 | Arrowmaster | wow one is from 1998 |
| 05:29.05 | Drundia | i'm sure i saw it once in patch notes, first keywords i thought of yield no results.... |
| 05:29.19 | Arrowmaster | windows one is from 2006 |
| 05:29.22 | Drundia | arialn.ttf could be different based on region... maybe it's more complete in EU |
| 05:30.23 | Drundia | aaa crap |
| 05:30.28 | Drundia | 1.11, but only for mac |
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| 05:30.58 | Arrowmaster | my windows arialn has box drawing characters but the wow one doesnt |
| 05:31.10 | Drundia | then replace wow one with windows one :) |
| 05:31.25 | Arrowmaster | but then nobody but me would see it |
| 05:32.04 | sylvanaar | most fonts work with a particular codepage |
| 05:32.35 | Arrowmaster | usually ISO 10646-2 |
| 05:32.47 | Drundia | you are a bit late, it's 2008 now, unicode everywhere! |
| 05:32.57 | sylvanaar | no, not really |
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| 05:33.34 | sylvanaar | that would be nice if it were true |
| 05:33.35 | Drundia | a lot of good fonts have some basic unicode support, it was called something like WCS |
| 05:33.46 | sylvanaar | yeah, "some" |
| 05:33.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | there we go |
| 05:33.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | password was set incorrectly |
| 05:34.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | laffo |
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| 06:20.58 | Najwa | Will these help me stay awake? |
| 06:21.11 | Thunder_Child | no, no they will not |
| 06:22.02 | Thunder_Child | a better alternative to drugs is sleep |
| 06:22.18 | Najwa | I've heard of that. |
| 06:22.41 | Najwa | But once you start sleeping every night, they say it's nearly impossible to quit. |
| 06:22.42 | Thunder_Child | ~wiki sleep |
| 06:22.57 | Thunder_Child | damit purl |
| 06:23.18 | Najwa | ~wiki purl |
| 06:23.44 | Najwa | Knit: 1 | Purl: 2 |
| 06:23.48 | Thunder_Child | lol @ the description |
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| 06:32.17 | NightHawkTheSane | "Real women don't knit -- they perl script." |
| 06:32.31 | Najwa | What about men who knit? |
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| 06:44.10 | Thunder_Child | oh, well thats ok. it's only discriminating against women |
| 06:45.37 | Najwa | So Real Men may knit but Real Women may not? Can we get this to apply to doing laundry, dishes and housecleaning? |
| 06:48.03 | Thunder_Child | no. (see discrimination rules) |
| 06:48.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Najwa: i already do dishes, laundry, AND housecleaning, what more do you want? P:P |
| 06:48.28 | Najwa | You. At my house. Tomorrow morning. |
| 06:48.29 | Thunder_Child | to do what everyone else wants |
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| 06:49.09 | Thunder_Child | i do dishes and laundry but i could never get the cleaning thing down |
| 06:49.35 | Najwa | Someone once said, if you quit cleaning for three years it never gets any worse after that. |
| 06:49.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: cleaning is easy, i just really hate the bathroom. >< |
| 06:50.18 | Najwa | ... but that's the easiest room to clean. |
| 06:50.44 | NightHawkTheSane | arguably, but the most disgusting |
| 06:50.57 | NightHawkTheSane | That reminds me, i need to buy a new vacuum cleaner. >.> |
| 06:51.11 | Thunder_Child | eh, i have a housekeeper anyway |
| 06:51.23 | NightHawkTheSane | real men do their own housecleaning. |
| 06:51.43 | Najwa | But it's so easy, it never has to get ineradicably disgusting. I mean, sure, disgusting, but *anything* can be cleaned in like three minutes or less with paper towels. |
| 06:51.46 | Thunder_Child | ok, i'm easy with not being a real man then |
| 06:52.26 | Najwa | ...if you clean it *right away*. |
| 06:52.34 | NightHawkTheSane | well, thats my problem. :P |
| 06:52.53 | Najwa | I prefer to think of it as your Special Challenge. |
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| 06:56.17 | Guillotine | Thunder_Child: ping |
| 06:57.21 | Thunder_Child | Guillotine: pong |
| 06:57.26 | Guillotine | TC: Still need a AA battery? |
| 06:57.47 | Thunder_Child | I H A T E Y O U |
| 06:58.20 | Thunder_Child | ~whalestab Guillotine |
| 06:58.22 | purl | ACTION stabs Guillotine with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 06:58.29 | Guillotine | ~whaleparry |
| 06:58.46 | Thunder_Child | i think it needs a target |
| 06:58.56 | Guillotine | ~whaleparry AA battery |
| 06:58.57 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry AA battery's attacks. |
| 06:59.12 | Thunder_Child | ~whalenuke Guillotine |
| 06:59.13 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Guillotine with his mind powers. |
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| 07:16.13 | NightHawkTheSane | 3 hours raiding to down akama and gorefiend, and they want to try bb. >< this can only end badly |
| 07:17.40 | Najwa | ... did we learn *nothing* from those nine-hour-long raids (six hours of which was corpse recovery) in the Plane of Fear, in Everquest? Is *this* what we've come to? |
| 07:17.53 | zenzio | my guild was all "zomg lets try Sunwell" when we were still stuck on RoS |
| 07:18.35 | Thunder_Child | you have to play EQ to learn something from it |
| 07:19.39 | Najwa | Please tell me I never have to *again*. |
| 07:21.03 | zenzio | I briefly tried EQ2... the whole unit classification confused the heck out of me |
| 07:21.45 | Thunder_Child | Najwa, you never have to again* (*Note: This statement is not enforced by...well....anything) |
| 07:22.03 | Najwa | Nevertheless I shall cling to it with a childlike faith. |
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| 07:22.29 | Thunder_Child | it's easier if your a child |
| 07:22.44 | Najwa | For one thing, I could never, ever again bring myself to send *that company* any more money after what they did to SWG. |
| 07:23.46 | Thunder_Child | i never played anything other than EQ and WoW |
| 07:24.06 | Thunder_Child | err...i suppse i did play the beta of most MMO's out though...nvm then |
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| 07:25.18 | Najwa | Hours of standing around in my virtual underwear... (For bonus points, tell me what MMO I am talking about when I say that)... |
| 07:25.26 | zenzio | had about two or three weeks in EQ2, same in SWG. Year and a half in AO... just over two and a half in WoW |
| 07:25.43 | Thunder_Child | Najwa, second life? |
| 07:25.47 | Kalroth | Najwa: Playboy Online?! |
| 07:25.57 | Thunder_Child | Kalroth, that would be no underwear |
| 07:25.59 | Najwa | EverQuest. Naked corpse runs. |
| 07:26.31 | Najwa | WoW: *Dancing* for hours in my underwear. |
| 07:26.33 | Thunder_Child | i never did see that as underwear really |
| 07:26.44 | Kalroth | Oh, I thought it was something hot. Like a secret keypress combination for WoW or even Age of Conan |
| 07:27.15 | Najwa | SWG: Dancing for hours in a succession of costume changes, and making a living at it. |
| 07:27.48 | Thunder_Child | Kalroth, the secret keypress is Ctrl+Alt+Del ...multiple times repeatedly |
| 07:28.12 | Najwa | Shadowbane: Being able to set off the /dance emote *while in battle*. |
| 07:29.17 | Thunder_Child | i never did care about all the "filler" aspects of MMO's like that |
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| 07:29.19 | Najwa | There's no simulated experience like getting down with something you're stabbing to death. |
| 07:29.56 | Najwa | Tell me your focus, then. |
| 07:30.26 | Thunder_Child | enjoyment...whatever that happens to be |
| 07:30.35 | Thunder_Child | it varries from game to game |
| 07:31.41 | Thunder_Child | wow..the UK charges room and board to the falsly accused... |
| 07:31.58 | Najwa | And from person to person, and from stage to stage for the individual. Good games just seem to make enjoyment possible for the greatest common denominator. |
| 07:32.37 | Thunder_Child | true, thats why i was talking about me |
| 07:32.45 | Najwa | The UK keeps people in custody 'at Her Majesty's pleasure', meaning indefinitely, right? |
| 07:32.51 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 07:32.58 | Thunder_Child | it's just been upped to 42 days |
| 07:33.24 | Thunder_Child | "Prime Minister Gordon Brown has narrowly won a House of Commons vote on extending the maximum time police can hold terror suspects to 42 days. There is talk of compensation packages available for the falsely accused. The chances of you getting that money however are slim to none, lets not forget, this is the same country that charges prisoners who have been falsely accused for bed and boarding costs." |
| 07:34.14 | Thunder_Child | oh..terror...still, i would imagine that it is easier for citizens |
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| 07:36.34 | Najwa | ... there are plenty of 'terror suspects' in Northern Ireland, I'd think, who are citizens. |
| 07:38.36 | Thunder_Child | mmmm.....IRA |
| 07:39.15 | Najwa | Well, 'suspects', including some people who unfortunately just cannot prove they're not. |
| 07:50.21 | Najwa | I was so, so nearly asleep... |
| 07:50.57 | Thunder_Child | dont tell me my dancing and singing disturbed you |
| 07:51.28 | Najwa | Ah, no. |
| 07:55.28 | krka | hello hiflyer! |
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| 08:04.40 | Thunder_Child | enjoying GRID Kirkburn? |
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| 08:07.56 | Kirkburn | RAWR |
| 08:07.59 | Kirkburn | No, I am not |
| 08:08.14 | Kirkburn | I've troubleshooting a menu problem :( |
| 08:08.29 | Kirkburn | Apparently it doesn't like shadows, of all things |
| 08:08.47 | Thunder_Child | wait what? |
| 08:09.10 | Kirkburn | Some weird incompatability, hopefully the patch will help |
| 08:09.23 | Thunder_Child | GL |
| 08:09.28 | Kirkburn | I'm editing the settings file manually, narrowed it to that |
| 08:09.41 | Thunder_Child | though the first Le Mans race is pissing me off |
| 08:14.31 | Kirkburn | There we go, postprocessing and shadows make is go crazy. :( |
| 08:15.46 | Thunder_Child | gratz |
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| 08:23.30 | hiflyer | krka: hi, sucks with work...I can't code fun stuff :/ |
| 08:25.22 | Najwa | I forgot to eat dinner. Now it's too late. Darn. |
| 08:25.32 | Najwa | And on that note, goodnight, everyone. |
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| 08:30.58 | Hapnintwo | Hello |
| 08:31.35 | zenzio | heya |
| 08:32.54 | Drundia | yo |
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| 08:41.42 | Kirkburn | Thunder_Child, grah, need patch |
| 08:42.15 | Kirkburn | Want my reflections, post-processing and shadows. And no insta-crashes ... |
| 08:42.54 | Kirkburn | Hopefully the supposed 7-10 delay on the Steam patch is just a miscommunication |
| 08:43.03 | Kirkburn | *7-10 day |
| 08:43.23 | Thunder_Child | insta-crashes? |
| 08:44.24 | Kirkburn | Aye, being dropped straight out of the game |
| 08:44.39 | Kirkburn | Just tried multiplayer, first map ... crash. |
| 08:44.45 | Thunder_Child | hah, i thought you mean in the car... |
| 08:44.57 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 08:44.57 | Thunder_Child | s/mean/meant/ |
| 08:45.13 | Kirkburn | I at least managed to finish one race, the first one |
| 08:45.21 | Thunder_Child | this game would be more fun with a steering wheel |
| 08:45.50 | Kirkburn | Will probably have to agree there |
| 08:47.13 | Thunder_Child | though seeing as how i wont paly this game again and prolly wont even finish it...it's not worth it |
| 08:47.22 | Kirkburn | :( |
| 08:47.43 | Kirkburn | I'm sure it'll lure you back :P |
| 08:47.58 | Thunder_Child | i doubt it, i was never a big fan of pure racing games |
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| 12:13.23 | Shirik | This seems like such a simple tool it should already exist; is there a utility for Linux where when I log in, it tells me how many login failures have occurred since my last login? |
| 12:15.45 | krka | auth.log? |
| 12:16.04 | Shirik | well I know it's in log files, but I'd like it so like |
| 12:16.05 | Shirik | when I log in |
| 12:18.05 | Shirik | like |
| 12:18.11 | krka | like, totally |
| 12:18.22 | Shirik | when I log in it would go "5 login failures since last login" |
| 12:18.28 | Shirik | sorry, talking to people at work >.> |
| 12:18.57 | krka | you could probably make a .bash_rc for it |
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| 12:29.21 | Shirik | faillog |
| 12:29.23 | Shirik | mt |
| 12:29.28 | Shirik | apparently this is not ssh |
| 12:30.10 | zenzio | nonsense, now enter your root password here so I can log you in: |
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| 12:58.11 | hi11ie | on here that info appears in /var/log/messages |
| 13:01.53 | Shirik | same ^ |
| 13:02.00 | Shirik | gentoo? |
| 13:02.11 | Shirik | but again, I'm not trying to look at a log |
| 13:02.16 | Shirik | I'm trying to see it reported every time I log in |
| 13:02.47 | hi11ie | Shirik: you could create a script and pipe tail -f into it, counting how many times the auth failture happens for your user and save it somewhere and reset the count upon login (with .bash_profile) |
| 13:03.22 | Shirik | tail would do nothing |
| 13:03.35 | Shirik | I mean, I can specify the number of lines |
| 13:03.46 | hi11ie | tail -f | grep "some regex here" | wc -l > somefile |
| 13:04.13 | Shirik | tail does 10 lines by itself without any additional parameters |
| 13:04.16 | Shirik | my log file is huge |
| 13:04.21 | Shirik | 10 lines wouldn't do anything :) |
| 13:04.28 | hi11ie | tail -f follows the file indefinitely |
| 13:05.13 | wereHamster | but he wants to know *right now* how many failed logins there were, not how many failed logins there might be in the future |
| 13:06.02 | Shirik | it shouldn't be a big deal to just grep the entire file |
| 13:06.17 | Shirik | just not exactly what I wanted to do |
| 13:06.37 | wereHamster | until the file grows several GB, then it'll take long |
| 13:06.39 | hi11ie | oh |
| 13:06.49 | Shirik | true, wereHamster |
| 13:07.11 | Shirik | I wonder how big it is right now |
| 13:07.26 | hi11ie | i would just grep the file then |
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| 13:08.21 | Shirik | not bad, 20MB |
| 13:08.49 | hi11ie | Shirik: btw, yea, gentoo :) |
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| 13:09.41 | wereHamster | I once had my kernel spit out lengthy backtraces several times a second, which then quickly filed my /var/log partition... |
| 13:10.11 | Shirik | lol |
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| 14:01.50 | Josh_Borke | morning |
| 14:02.04 | Lopeppeppy | Heya. |
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| 14:31.20 | Fisker- | btw Ackis |
| 14:31.23 | Fisker- | did it work? |
| 14:32.45 | Zurik | is there a website that has an extractable list of players & statistics for them? |
| 14:33.02 | Fisker- | wowarmory |
| 14:33.03 | Fisker- | :P |
| 14:33.16 | Zurik | yeah but wowarmory, i have to look up player by player |
| 14:33.32 | Fisker- | you'll have to do that regardless |
| 14:33.51 | Zurik | so the answer to my question is no. haha |
| 14:34.24 | Fisker- | well wowjutsu have some raid/gear related statistics |
| 14:34.41 | Zurik | yeah, is it extractable? |
| 14:34.45 | Zurik | like xml n stuff? |
| 14:34.59 | Fisker- | dunno |
| 14:35.44 | AckisWork | Fisker-: Downloading now actually |
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| 14:48.46 | Cide | so I'm debating to take the ui & macros forum off my home tabs |
| 14:48.52 | Cide | it's pretty much useless now |
| 14:49.32 | Cide | "need help with a pally macro", "post your ui", "stealth macro", "looking for an addon", "looking for a good ui", "Macro-Delay!!!!" |
| 14:50.49 | AckisWork | are there anymore about how to create a random mount macro? |
| 14:51.00 | Cide | probably |
| 14:51.05 | Cide | look for yourself |
| 14:51.37 | AckisWork | forum account was banned so I don't bother going there anymore |
| 14:51.39 | AckisWork | :P |
| 14:53.45 | AckisWork | Fisker-: It kinda works, I need to create a trial account to log in... a "full retail account is not compatible with the trial version" |
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| 14:54.32 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 14:54.34 | Fisker- | told you that |
| 14:54.35 | Fisker- | baww |
| 14:55.13 | AckisWork | but but but... |
| 14:58.19 | AckisWork | "If you are playing using the TryWOW streaming client, you will need to install the full game from the purchased CDs or DVD in order to continue playing. You cannot use the TryWOW client with a retail access key." |
| 14:58.29 | AckisWork | well at least I can test changes out then |
| 15:00.41 | Fisker- | I don't get it though |
| 15:00.51 | Fisker- | Why not just make it the new client instead? |
| 15:01.07 | Fisker- | instead of a special trial client |
| 15:02.33 | AckisWork | yah that makes no sense to me |
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| 15:12.01 | DARKGuy | mornin' :D |
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| 15:28.37 | AckisWork | any way to anticipate an add-on link when you've just uploaded it? |
| 15:29.09 | cog|away | AckisWork: to wowinterface? |
| 15:29.41 | foxlit | yes |
| 15:29.47 | foxlit | or not :) |
| 15:29.52 | foxlit | It may show up in my addons |
| 15:29.53 | AckisWork | yes to wowinterface |
| 15:30.03 | cog|away | go to the My AddOns screen |
| 15:30.03 | foxlit | But I don't think the URL is actually generated before it's approved for the first time |
| 15:30.13 | cog|away | and hover over the Edit button |
| 15:30.21 | cog|away | it'll show you the id number |
| 15:30.27 | AckisWork | ahh ok ty cog |
| 15:30.53 | cog|away | np :) |
| 15:31.43 | DARKGuy | you uploading querier? :O |
| 15:32.22 | AckisWork | yah |
| 15:33.35 | AckisWork | would like to UL alttabber and bwkh as well but no screenies for them |
| 15:34.20 | DARKGuy | :( |
| 15:36.52 | Gnarfoz | anyone using PSPad? |
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| 15:49.59 | Gnarfoz | obviously not :D |
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| 17:30.45 | zenzelezz | anyone familiar with WWS - specifically whether it's possible to download the raw logs that a report has been generated from? I'm guessing not |
| 17:30.55 | nevcairiel | no its not |
| 17:31.01 | Lopeppeppy | Nope. One way loading |
| 17:31.01 | zenzelezz | bugger :-/ |
| 17:31.27 | zenzelezz | unsurprising, but means I'll have to pester more friends for their logs |
| 17:31.35 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 17:31.42 | Arrowmaster | what do you need logs of |
| 17:31.43 | nevcairiel | need anything in particular? |
| 17:31.51 | Arrowmaster | i have an ftp full |
| 17:32.19 | zenzelezz | nope, just any logs. Writing a custom parser thing just for kicks, but my logs are pretty one-sided (all from myself) |
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| 17:33.08 | Arrowmaster | http://www.oczombies.net/proguild/ |
| 17:33.20 | Arrowmaster | theres even logs of MC from 4-30 |
| 17:33.34 | Arrowmaster | err 20080430 |
| 17:33.35 | zenzelezz | heh, sweet - thanks :) |
| 17:33.43 | Arrowmaster | some of those are old format |
| 17:34.04 | Arrowmaster | actually maybe not |
| 17:34.12 | Arrowmaster | the old ones should be in the archive |
| 17:35.35 | zenzelezz | there's one marked 20070413, the rest seem post-2.4 I guess |
| 17:36.58 | zenzelezz | and thanks again, these should be quite sufficient for my needs :) |
| 17:37.17 | nevcairiel | 20070413 ? that sounds damn old =P |
| 17:38.02 | Arrowmaster | you should have seen the archive dir before somebody fucked up and changed the quota on the server to 1gig forcing us to pull tons of stuff off of it just so we could get our email |
| 17:38.16 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 17:38.25 | Arrowmaster | we got logs from when we first started using WWS over a year ago |
| 17:39.03 | Arrowmaster | that guild doesnt even exist anymore we just having changed the login name |
| 17:40.09 | zenzelezz | changed guild name? |
| 17:40.15 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 17:40.47 | Arrowmaster | the old leaders gquit and transfered servers back when we were working on al'ar because they felt the progression was too slow |
| 17:40.53 | zenzelezz | I was quite fond of my last guild, but could never get over the apparent typo in the name... "Winters Heart" |
| 17:41.04 | Arrowmaster | and they wouldnt transfer the domain name so we reformed |
| 17:41.11 | zenzelezz | there also used to be a guild on my realm called "Wind Is Raising"... |
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| 17:41.28 | frop | yello |
| 17:41.45 | zenzelezz | Arrowmaster: I see... pity when such things happen |
| 17:42.24 | Arrowmaster | its kinda funny though |
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| 17:44.22 | Arrowmaster | there used to be a guild on the server named < Pro > way back when that got stuck on Nef and broke up, and then they formed <Pro> which my old guild merged with and we basicly ended up taking over because of people quiting and now theres some lameass pvp guild on the server named <Prø> |
| 17:45.05 | Arrowmaster | the name is destined for failure on my realm |
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| 17:45.15 | zenzelezz | hehe |
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| 17:48.11 | frop | mmmh, is RBM supposed to splash bars for MH waves? |
| 17:48.53 | zenzelezz | RBM? |
| 17:49.18 | frop | aye |
| 17:49.38 | frop | RsomethingBarManager if i'm not wrong |
| 17:52.52 | Arrowmaster | it has no name afaik |
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| 18:08.34 | Lunessa | ... skidoosh |
| 18:09.06 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, thank you, I'd like some. |
| 18:09.10 | zenzelezz | I must admit "station" has a better ring to it |
| 18:09.18 | Najwa | Skidoo + douche? Or, er, what's that mean? |
| 18:09.28 | cog|work | anyone without a vested interest in the book want to handle this one? http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16726 ;) |
| 18:09.53 | alestane | The first time I met my love was on a Monday morning; and the second time I saw ehr was a Tuesday afternoon. |
| 18:12.00 | alestane | When she kissed me on a Wednesday, I couldn't wait for Thursday; But I can tell you now, me boys, that Thursday never came. |
| 18:12.11 | Sixen | Awwww. |
| 18:12.16 | Sixen | Good thing today isThursday, right? |
| 18:12.19 | Sixen | lawl. |
| 18:12.39 | Najwa | This really deserves... the world's smallest violin accompaniment. |
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| 18:13.49 | alestane | cog|work: dropped in a good word for the site. Didn't actually mention the book. |
| 18:14.26 | zenzelezz | "as per cogwheel's request, I am recommending this book:" |
| 18:14.39 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:14.40 | cog|work | ~lart zenzelezz |
| 18:14.40 | purl | takes out a seltzer bottle and sprays zenzelezz in the face. You know, one of those old-school seltzer bottles clowns have? Yeah those. Anyway, consider yourself spritzed |
| 18:15.00 | cog|work | when did ~lart start sucking? |
| 18:15.12 | nevcairiel | ~lart ~lart |
| 18:15.12 | purl | shoots ~lart in the head |
| 18:16.10 | Lopeppeppy | cog|work: Covered. |
| 18:16.23 | cog|work | =) |
| 18:16.34 | Lopeppeppy | By lots of us. |
| 18:16.40 | nevcairiel | heh yea |
| 18:16.44 | Lunessa | Sorry... I saw a TV add for "Kung Fu Panda" and the word "skidoosh" has been stuck in my head all week. |
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| 18:17.20 | cog|work | Will there be Kung Fu Panda II: Sexual Harrassment? |
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| 18:18.48 | Najwa | I'm afraid that by definition, making a joke out of sexual harrassment constitutes sexual harrassment. |
| 18:19.24 | cog|work | i'm already going to hell so meh :P |
| 18:19.33 | nevcairiel | arent we all |
| 18:19.34 | nevcairiel | *shrug |
| 18:19.47 | Najwa | I have a Get Out Of Hell Free card. |
| 18:19.55 | nevcairiel | those expired |
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| 18:21.26 | Lunessa | cog|work: I'm irc-ing /from/ Hell. I have a small condo overlooking the Lake of Fire, just a short drive from the Pit of Despair and a day trip to the Sea of Damnation. |
| 18:22.18 | Najwa | How's the weather? |
| 18:22.30 | nevcairiel | sulfur'ish? |
| 18:22.50 | Lopeppeppy | It's all good. |
| 18:24.15 | cog|work | http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/tersumus/ |
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| 18:25.30 | nevcairiel | lol nice idea |
| 18:25.59 | Lunessa | nevcairiel: It's hot as hell. :P |
| 18:26.21 | Fisker- | i'd hit it |
| 18:26.27 | Fisker- | if it didn't cost 10⬠|
| 18:26.44 | nevcairiel | what currency is that 350? |
| 18:27.12 | Matrix110 | Rubel? |
| 18:27.17 | nevcairiel | is it? |
| 18:27.20 | Matrix110 | dunno |
| 18:27.21 | cog|work | i think so |
| 18:27.23 | Matrix110 | they are from russia |
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| 18:27.25 | cog|work | they're based in russio |
| 18:27.29 | cog|work | s/o/a/ |
| 18:28.12 | Lunessa | Yeah, damned ruskies. |
| 18:28.32 | cog|work | sorry Fisker- |
| 18:28.33 | Fisker- | wat? |
| 18:28.38 | Fisker- | but it said fatality :( |
| 18:28.46 | cog|work | bug? |
| 18:29.09 | Fisker- | :/ |
| 18:29.12 | Fisker- | http://store.artlebedev.com/computer_add-ons/rozetkus/ <-lol |
| 18:29.20 | Fisker- | a shame there's a thing called ground these days |
| 18:29.24 | Fisker- | may not have it in russia though |
| 18:29.31 | Fisker- | they live in a post-apocalyptic rpg |
| 18:29.37 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:29.40 | nevcairiel | nice design =P |
| 18:29.54 | cog|work | that's pretty awesome if you don't need polarity... |
| 18:29.56 | nevcairiel | best comment |
| 18:29.59 | nevcairiel | "Wont fit diagonally" |
| 18:30.31 | nevcairiel | direction doesnt matter for euro-plugs |
| 18:30.39 | nevcairiel | so if they just do ABABABAB all the time |
| 18:30.42 | nevcairiel | it works^^ |
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| 18:31.15 | Fisker- | well it wouldn't fit diagonally |
| 18:31.21 | Fisker- | i guess |
| 18:31.26 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 18:31.34 | nevcairiel | that would break it |
| 18:31.35 | nevcairiel | ;) |
| 18:33.17 | Seerah | I still want this: http://store.artlebedev.com/computer_add-ons/optimus/ |
| 18:33.34 | nevcairiel | pricy |
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| 18:33.48 | DARKGuy | Damn. |
| 18:33.49 | DARKGuy | <3 |
| 18:33.50 | Fisker- | meh |
| 18:34.05 | Fisker- | seeing it action kinda makes me not want it all |
| 18:34.38 | Arrowmaster | i dont like the small display area on the space bar |
| 18:34.43 | DARKGuy | it's the sleekest thing ever |
| 18:34.45 | DARKGuy | yeah. |
| 18:35.04 | Dashkal | I want its flat cousin as an alternative. |
| 18:35.11 | NightHawkTheSane | http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/when_candy_design_goes_wrong |
| 18:35.15 | Fisker- | not to mention the like 20 second boot up sequence |
| 18:35.25 | Fisker- | actually make it 30 |
| 18:35.28 | Fisker- | and |
| 18:35.33 | Fisker- | flat return key |
| 18:35.43 | nevcairiel | lol NightHawkTheSane |
| 18:35.51 | Arrowmaster | flat return key? |
| 18:35.59 | Fisker- | instead of l-shaped |
| 18:36.12 | Fisker- | or the other shape it has |
| 18:36.26 | Arrowmaster | oh i dislike the l-shaped one, but i know its the standard for some language layouts |
| 18:36.37 | DARKGuy | I have l-shaped enter key |
| 18:36.39 | DARKGuy | it's cool |
| 18:36.44 | zenzelezz | most European I think. I certainly hate any flat return keys |
| 18:36.47 | DARKGuy | I don't have to aim it with my pink finger :D |
| 18:36.48 | Fisker- | i can't hit enter if it's rectangular |
| 18:36.51 | Fisker- | nomatter what |
| 18:36.57 | DARKGuy | me too |
| 18:37.17 | Seerah | my keyboard's return (enter) key is the same shape as on the Optimus |
| 18:38.04 | foxlit | the question is where your \ key is |
| 18:38.22 | Seerah | directly above it |
| 18:38.28 | Seerah | next to ] |
| 18:39.05 | zenzelezz | I basically can't work an American keyboard layout. Special keeys in all the wrong places |
| 18:39.28 | nevcairiel | you can re-assign those =P |
| 18:39.47 | foxlit | you mean all the right spaces! |
| 18:39.59 | foxlit | Some of the european keyboards, on the other hand... urgh! |
| 18:40.01 | Arrowmaster | hmm that layout is a bit weird |
| 18:40.07 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: but why would I want to? That would just turn it into a Norwegian layout, so why not just use one in the first place? |
| 18:40.27 | nevcairiel | i think thats the whole point |
| 18:40.32 | Arrowmaster | its missing a key between the right ctrl and right alt |
| 18:40.37 | nevcairiel | why not change it to the layout you want it |
| 18:40.41 | DARKGuy | It isn't missing a key |
| 18:40.45 | DARKGuy | M$ added it |
| 18:40.49 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: because the Norwegian one IS the one I want |
| 18:40.50 | DARKGuy | and it shouldn't had to :P |
| 18:41.09 | foxlit | that's right, the apple key should be after the option key, not before it! :) |
| 18:41.14 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:41.18 | DARKGuy | lol |
| 18:41.37 | Arrowmaster | you mean the meta key? |
| 18:41.50 | zenzelezz | Ctrl-Amiga-Del |
| 18:42.08 | Atriace | wait a sec.... someone here actually prefers the L shaped return key? |
| 18:42.10 | foxlit | we banish you from this earth, solaris! |
| 18:42.22 | Arrowmaster | Atriace: most of europe |
| 18:42.25 | zenzelezz | Atriace: it's common on many layouts |
| 18:42.38 | Najwa | I'd like an extra return key underneath my spacebar. |
| 18:42.46 | foxlit | Meh, doesn't make a difference to me |
| 18:42.59 | foxlit | Laptop has an upside down L, desktop has a flat rectangular block |
| 18:43.04 | Atriace | That would explain the Roccat keyboard |
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| 18:43.50 | cog|work | \o/ ac fixed! |
| 18:44.04 | nevcairiel | working ac = win |
| 18:44.26 | Atriace | I was fascinated by it with the singular drawback being the L-return. It forces the \ button to share space with the delete key which in turn becomes micro-sized. |
| 18:44.38 | Atriace | er.... it being the Roccat Valo: http://www.roccat.org/Products/Products/ROCCAT-Valo/ |
| 18:45.30 | foxlit | eh, it so doesn't |
| 18:45.32 | nevcairiel | i actually like the german G15 layout, big return button, big backspace |
| 18:45.41 | foxlit | Or, well, it depends |
| 18:45.48 | foxlit | Somewhat like apple keyboards at the moment |
| 18:45.53 | Atriace | foxlit: wha? |
| 18:45.54 | foxlit | \ is left of ' |
| 18:46.08 | Atriace | Apple keyboards have \ |
| 18:46.12 | nevcairiel | that layout --> http://carbon.cudenver.edu/~tphillip/german-keyboard-a.jpg |
| 18:46.13 | nevcairiel | == win |
| 18:47.09 | Arrowmaster | it has 3 more keys than my layout i think |
| 18:47.29 | Arrowmaster | oh wait nvm |
| 18:47.41 | zenzelezz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:KB_Norway.svg -- I can never get used to any other, nor do I have a desire to |
| 18:47.47 | Arrowmaster | i was thinking it was one of the ones with the extra key in the top row but its not |
| 18:47.54 | cog|work | http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/pckeyboards_2003_7082 best. layout. evar. (imo.) |
| 18:49.12 | nevcairiel | qwertz > qwerty |
| 18:49.30 | sacarasc | enGB > enUS |
| 18:50.28 | Arrowmaster | does enGB actually use a different layout than enUS other than $ replaced by £ |
| 18:51.04 | Atriace | well... the ? is currently > $ at the moment.... so it makes sense... |
| 18:51.37 | Arrowmaster | id like to see you program without a $ key |
| 18:51.50 | nevcairiel | especially php! |
| 18:52.09 | nevcairiel | (what do i need $ in like lua for?) |
| 18:54.46 | Shirik | Java uses $ |
| 18:54.56 | nevcairiel | for? |
| 18:55.00 | Shirik | variable names |
| 18:55.04 | nevcairiel | eh? |
| 18:55.08 | Shirik | specifically anonymous classes |
| 18:55.38 | Shirik | I believe any variable can have a $ in it |
| 18:55.47 | Shirik | but Java automatically names anonymous classes with <parent>$n |
| 18:55.49 | zenzelezz | yeah, but why would we want to touch Java? |
| 18:55.52 | Shirik | where n is some number that keeps incrementing |
| 18:56.06 | Atriace | sounds like a costly variable name. |
| 18:56.17 | Shirik | it can be if you have lots of anonymous classes |
| 18:56.19 | nevcairiel | you usually dont access anonymous classes by that $ name |
| 18:56.19 | Shirik | I had $32 before |
| 18:56.30 | Shirik | nevcairiel: In particular, you aren't allowed to :) |
| 18:56.33 | Shirik | that's just an internal thing |
| 18:56.39 | nevcairiel | so |
| 18:56.42 | Shirik | but you can still use $ in variable names |
| 18:56.45 | nevcairiel | what do i need that $ key again? |
| 18:56.46 | Shirik | and what if you need to access it through JNI! |
| 18:56.51 | nevcairiel | but i dont _have_ to =P |
| 18:57.03 | Shirik | what if you had random joe's java code |
| 18:57.08 | Shirik | and you needed to write a DLL to interface with it |
| 18:57.15 | Shirik | and he had 30 anonymous classes inside |
| 18:57.19 | Shirik | and you were writing in C++ |
| 18:57.25 | Shirik | You need that $ key! |
| 18:57.31 | foxlit | fs |
| 18:57.33 | nevcairiel | i dont want to write interfaces for java :( |
| 18:57.35 | foxlit | the number of times you said it |
| 18:57.41 | foxlit | I could just copy+paste it into code! |
| 18:57.57 | Lopeppeppy | Copy/paste is the work of the devil! DEBBIL!! |
| 18:58.21 | Shirik | ^ |
| 18:58.21 | nevcairiel | wait, foxlit is the devil? |
| 18:58.23 | Atriace | If only we had copy/paste for real life... goodbye economy. |
| 18:58.28 | zenzelezz | just use ¤ and do macro a ¤ -> $ search and replace |
| 18:58.42 | Shirik | I have always been told if you need to copy and paste code, you're doing something wrong :) |
| 18:58.44 | foxlit | Talk to me about real estate opportunities in your future. |
| 18:58.48 | Shirik | I pretty much agree with that philosophy |
| 18:59.05 | Najwa | If only we could survive by eating paste... |
| 18:59.06 | nevcairiel | i copy paste when i'm lazy |
| 18:59.19 | NightHawkTheSane | i copy/paste when i have code in one file that needs to be in an entirely different file. |
| 18:59.21 | Lopeppeppy | I copy sleepions when I'm lazy |
| 18:59.29 | nevcairiel | "hey i wrote this macro in a old application already .. " |
| 18:59.46 | Shirik | unfortunately that leads to my crazy macros sometimes |
| 18:59.48 | Shirik | but they work! |
| 19:00.16 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/89483 ftw |
| 19:00.19 | Atriace | I feel like less of a man when I copy/paste, as if I've denounced a portion of me doing real work. |
| 19:01.26 | zenzelezz | you know what they say about men who use long variable names |
| 19:01.28 | Lopeppeppy | Yes Shirik, but what does it DO? |
| 19:01.30 | Atriace | Just to verify, there is no other debuff API for other units other than UnitDebuff, correct? |
| 19:01.46 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy: draws a cross :) |
| 19:01.47 | Atriace | zenzelezz: I'd actually like to hear it. |
| 19:01.58 | Shirik | so I didn't have to copy/paste those 4 lines over and over |
| 19:01.58 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, Shirik! *shivers* How naughty! |
| 19:02.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Atriace: they get carpal tunnel faster. |
| 19:02.11 | zenzelezz | Atriace: they use IDEs that auto-complete |
| 19:02.16 | foxlit | they're paid per kilobyte? |
| 19:02.35 | zenzelezz | what were you thinking you pervert |
| 19:02.58 | Najwa | I was thinking, "The bigger they are, the nicer they are". |
| 19:03.36 | foxlit | what did you think I was thinking, you insensitive clod? |
| 19:03.41 | kd3 | ok... think I've got as much info as I can stuff in to my NPC infodump macro... http://wowi.pastey.net/89484 anyone haev any suggestions? |
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| 19:11.58 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, I'm just yanking your chain. Too much sugar for lunch, that's all. *hug* |
| 19:18.30 | Lunessa | Shirik: Copy & Paste code is not evil! Careless Copy/Paste is bad. |
| 19:22.39 | DARKGuy | Haha |
| 19:22.52 | DARKGuy | Careless copy & paste is da best :P |
| 19:23.22 | Lunessa | kd3: I'm totally stealing those. |
| 19:23.49 | kd3 | by all means... the quest rewards one needs some work, but I'm rather pleased with the npc infodump |
| 19:25.01 | Lunessa | You probably also want a map coorods dump. |
| 19:25.16 | Lunessa | And possibly a camera angle dump. |
| 19:25.26 | kd3 | that's next on my list. I've been banging my head against the wall trying to stuff it into the npcdump, but I don't think it's doable |
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| 19:25.37 | foxlit | why do you want to, though :) |
| 19:25.49 | kd3 | just to make things easier when new content comes along |
| 19:26.10 | foxlit | define:things |
| 19:27.40 | Lunessa | kd3 > Me when it comes to recording infos. |
| 19:27.56 | foxlit | But if you're contributing content to wiki... |
| 19:28.06 | foxlit | That sounds like a really weird way of doing that :) |
| 19:30.35 | foxlit | on google tomorrow, you know :) |
| 19:31.03 | kd3 | death and destruction will rain down upon all you know. ;) |
| 19:31.22 | foxlit | Channel is logged and indexed, it's evil! |
| 19:31.36 | zenzelezz | aha, so we're getting a Death and Destruction spell in WotLK |
| 19:31.56 | Lunessa | It's the Infocalypse! |
| 19:31.56 | kd3 | .... I'm going to hell |
| 19:32.03 | foxlit | I bet it hits "your chlildren, your children's children and your children's children's children" just like Archi's! |
| 19:32.14 | Lunessa | Drop by the condo, we'll have a few beers and smoke a stofie. |
| 19:32.27 | kd3 | thankfully purl dooesn't log emotes |
| 19:32.28 | Lunessa | stogie even |
| 19:32.30 | foxlit | I don't really see an exit point in that code, though |
| 19:33.00 | foxlit | Unless ChatFrame1 is logged rather brutally, it doesn't bring you closer to data in file form :) |
| 19:33.00 | kd3 | ~logs |
| 19:33.01 | purl | it has been said that logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 19:33.45 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: prefix the line with a space, purl won't log it |
| 19:33.54 | ScytheBlade1 | (as yuo can see in that ~logs line right there) |
| 19:34.04 | ScytheBlade1 | *you |
| 19:34.12 | kd3 | even then, I know purl doesn't log emotes because I've searched them before |
| 19:34.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 19:34.54 | nevcairiel | my stupid irc client removes prefixed spaces |
| 19:34.56 | nevcairiel | qq me |
| 19:35.01 | foxlit | Doing it with an addon makes more sense :) |
| 19:35.02 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:35.03 | ScytheBlade1 | sucker! |
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| 19:35.14 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:36.09 | kd3 | ugh. I feel sick |
| 19:36.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Boo. The "DBM should be illegal" thread isn't a necro, that's really two pages of people whining :/ |
| 19:37.09 | foxlit | I vote we ban it and ALL OTHER DEVICES CAPABLE OF RECORDING TIME SINCE EVENTS |
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| 19:38.04 | Arrowmaster | ScytheBlade1: where? |
| 19:38.08 | Arrowmaster | i want to see |
| 19:38.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Big nasty link inc |
| 19:38.15 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=93E448978BC63196080AA77CE927B83B.app11_07?topicId=7116572940&sid=1 |
| 19:38.26 | foxlit | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7116572940 |
| 19:38.34 | foxlit | ^ shorter, prettier link |
| 19:38.53 | nevcairiel | It is pretty much impossible to do Aran in Kara and avoid blizzard or flamewrath if you don't have deadly boss mods. |
| 19:38.54 | nevcairiel | hahahahaa |
| 19:39.02 | nevcairiel | sorry. |
| 19:39.07 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 |
| 19:39.08 | ScytheBlade1 | No need to be sorry |
| 19:39.10 | ScytheBlade1 | I lol'd |
| 19:39.11 | kd3 | ya, no kidding |
| 19:39.14 | kd3 | rofl |
| 19:39.17 | Duman | lol |
| 19:39.35 | ScytheBlade1 | His reasoning later on |
| 19:39.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Is that he is a deaf healer who won't hear the emotes or be able to read the screen because he's healing |
| 19:40.24 | zenzelezz | now now, be kind, there's only nine other people there; that's surely not enough to warn him |
| 19:40.26 | foxlit | Personally, I think DBM should be "banned" because it's just so damn spammy |
| 19:40.27 | nevcairiel | tunnel vision is a serious issue |
| 19:40.40 | foxlit | But that's just me being lazy and not writing anything to filter it |
| 19:40.50 | ScytheBlade1 | zenzelezz: he's deaf, he won't hear them |
| 19:41.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Leaving his only other option being chat, which he can't read |
| 19:41.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Because he's busy healing |
| 19:41.25 | NightHawkTheSane | i guess the giant spikes of ice raining from the sky, or the giant rings of fire just aren't obvious enough. |
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| 19:41.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Apparently not, because after all, he's busy healing. |
| 19:41.43 | nevcairiel | its funny though, he says its imposible to kill aran without, but he wants them banned |
| 19:41.48 | nevcairiel | why doesnt he just install it? |
| 19:41.52 | foxlit | Keep in mind that some people may play with spell effects turned down :) |
| 19:41.55 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm pretty sure he's just a troll |
| 19:42.05 | foxlit | In which case, it can be a real nightmare to keep track of some AoE spells |
| 19:42.08 | Najwa | ... did he say impossible to kill without, or impossible to avoid such-and-such without? |
| 19:42.15 | nevcairiel | foxlit: and i laugh at them if they die due to that, turn everything down, but keep spell effects up |
| 19:42.23 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: admittedly, blizzard is difficult with spell effects turned down, but flame wreath isn't. |
| 19:42.55 | foxlit | anyway, I liked the shouts on that fight |
| 19:42.56 | NightHawkTheSane | but really, if you're playing with spell effects down, you should learn what to look for, its not that hard if you're not an idiot. |
| 19:43.18 | foxlit | It stinks of "Pika-CHUUUUUU!", but they do the job |
| 19:45.25 | Lunessa | ... There are places where having spell effects at less than maximum is bad, like Nightbane's scorched earth effect. But really DBM or Big Wigs or any of those are only good for reminders. |
| 19:46.06 | zenzelezz | "what? Move from the Doomfire? No way, DBM didn't tell me to!" |
| 19:46.08 | foxlit | any ground-based aoe that isn't fire is generally hard to see without spell effects |
| 19:46.14 | Duman | NO U |
| 19:46.15 | Lunessa | Oh, and I r teh suk 'cause I've never raided past kara. |
| 19:46.24 | foxlit | Illidan's flames, on the other hand, are way too graphic |
| 19:46.33 | Najwa | Traps don't show up well without SE turned up all the way. |
| 19:46.33 | foxlit | Can't see anything _but_ them |
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| 19:46.50 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: feh, i've done nightbane with min spell effects, slightly trickier to see the scorched earth, but far from impossible |
| 19:47.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: that you did. I'm pretty sure that you'll be the only post that answers the OP in that entire thread. |
| 19:47.37 | Lunessa | " |
| 19:47.37 | Lopeppeppy | I think so too, ScytheBlade1. |
| 19:48.17 | Lunessa | When I had spell-effects turned to mid-level my only indication for scorched earth was "@!#$!! I'm taking damage!" |
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| 19:49.25 | cog|work | /want http://novelquest.com/emperor.html |
| 19:50.33 | foxlit | That looks like something our robotic overlords will use to murder us while we're sleeping |
| 19:51.32 | Lunessa | ... DO WANT |
| 19:51.38 | cog|work | http://gizmodo.com/5015730/emperor-workstation-belongs-in-the-death-star-my-office |
| 19:52.11 | Arrowmaster | but those are fullscreen and not widescreen lcds =( |
| 19:52.35 | cog|work | if they're not user replaceable then /unwant imo |
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| 19:52.58 | Lunessa | "One of the most important questions for the nerd: Does it flush? " |
| 19:53.10 | Arrowmaster | rofl |
| 19:53.11 | Lopeppeppy | Does it FLOSS! |
| 19:53.51 | erikd | foxlit: the annoying thing about illidan's flames is how bad the fireball blasts in demon phase lag |
| 19:54.04 | Kaso | that workstation is freaking awesome |
| 19:54.12 | foxlit | that too |
| 19:54.18 | Kaso | though it'd be nice if they could get the bevels between screens smaller |
| 19:54.50 | Kaso | im sure i read about bevelless lcd screen technology the other year |
| 19:55.04 | Kaso | so lcds could be stitched together seamlessly |
| 19:55.25 | wereHamster | cog|work: why not use lolcode? |
| 19:55.53 | Lunessa | Back to the cold dark with you! |
| 19:56.27 | Lopeppeppy | I'll show you this old dog still has some teeth! |
| 19:56.57 | zenzelezz | my mobile phone "new message" sound is Aran's "I'm not finished yet! No... I have a few more tricks up my sleeve" |
| 19:57.03 | zenzelezz | people look at me funny when they hear it |
| 19:57.19 | foxlit | hm |
| 19:57.24 | foxlit | replace with Kael's last speech! |
| 19:57.36 | zenzelezz | and I wake up to Illidan's "Behold the power... of the DEMON within!" |
| 19:58.55 | zenzelezz | was a tough choice between that and Akama's "The time has come... the moment is at hand", but Illidan's is louder |
| 19:59.23 | nevcairiel | i need a new phone that does mp3 |
| 19:59.37 | Lopeppeppy | I need to figure out how to get new ring tones/sounds. I need a few choice items.... |
| 19:59.39 | Sixen | iPhone :D |
| 19:59.53 | Sixen | nev, I have an LG Voyager and I love it. |
| 20:00.05 | Sixen | You could also get an LG Venus... Samsung Glide.. all newer phones right there. |
| 20:00.06 | zenzelezz | I transferred mine to the mobile using BlueTooth |
| 20:00.11 | nevcairiel | i was actually looking at the new cheaper iPhones |
| 20:00.12 | nevcairiel | ;) |
| 20:00.17 | Sixen | =P. |
| 20:00.21 | kd3 | meh, I need to get a cable for my phone or a bluetooth card for my computer |
| 20:00.31 | foxlit | Sane development environment on iPhone = best bonus ever |
| 20:00.32 | nevcairiel | i got a bluetooth usb thingy once |
| 20:00.39 | nevcairiel | works fine |
| 20:00.49 | zenzelezz | most laptops have BlueTooth these days, just find someone who has one |
| 20:01.33 | Lopeppeppy | I just got a Crackberry, promptly lost the earbud and accessories. Moving sucks. |
| 20:01.58 | nevcairiel | i lost my usb cable |
| 20:02.44 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Yoh has a Perl? |
| 20:03.20 | Lunessa | Bah, You have the BlackBerry Pearl? |
| 20:03.37 | Sixen | How do you like it kd3? |
| 20:04.34 | Lopeppeppy | I do, Lunessa! |
| 20:04.46 | Lunessa | With the pearl, I just copied MP3 or .WAV files to the memory card and assigned them as custom ringers. |
| 20:05.01 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: the new "cheaper" iphones arn't, strictly, "cheaper" >< |
| 20:05.04 | Lopeppeppy | She's very pretty. I think I can do exactly what you say I can do, once I find the cord to connect it to my computer. |
| 20:05.10 | kd3 | I'm enjoying it. nice having a qwerty keyboard... the phone going "Verizon Wireless" before starting ringing is really getting annoying. trying to figure out how to purge that |
| 20:05.24 | Sixen | Ahahaha |
| 20:05.34 | Sixen | I got the Voyager, definitely <3 QWERTY Keyboards. |
| 20:05.38 | nevcairiel | NightHawkTheSane: why not? $199 sounds cheap :P |
| 20:05.44 | Lunessa | Yes, you could. Or if you have bluetooth on your PC you can use that. |
| 20:06.10 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: it's subsidised by at&t, and as a result the voice/data plan isn't included, AND is increasing in cost |
| 20:06.34 | Lopeppeppy | I don't have blue-computer-teeth. But I did find the cord in the original box in the box of electronics that I'm keeping separate. |
| 20:06.35 | nevcairiel | i dont care about your US cell contracts |
| 20:06.38 | Lopeppeppy | Now I just need a new earbud! |
| 20:06.39 | nevcairiel | since, i am not US =P |
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| 20:06.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Makes exactly zero sense to me. Light doesn't come on, no call, no text |
| 20:06.45 | Lunessa | I have the Murloc gurgle assinged as my brother's ring tone. |
| 20:06.47 | ScytheBlade1 | It just says "Verizon Wireless" every so often. |
| 20:06.56 | Lopeppeppy | Oh... my... god. Lunessa, do not give me ideas for TKFT |
| 20:07.09 | Lunessa | Mururuguguglelel |
| 20:07.13 | Lopeppeppy | ScytheBlade1, could it be checking wireless range/signal every so often? |
| 20:07.16 | kd3 | sbo; I think I've narrowed it down to it losing/regaining cell service |
| 20:07.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm possible |
| 20:07.40 | kd3 | because I know where the dead cells are when I drive, I usually hear my phone go off driving threw them |
| 20:07.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Although I have two bars here, where it commonly occurs |
| 20:07.47 | kd3 | through* |
| 20:07.56 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: fair enough, but its quite likely that the cost is still subsidized by whatever provider apple has contracted with, and they may impose costs above and beyond that that may not have occured with the more expensive model, the same way at&t did |
| 20:08.15 | MentalPower | so the iPhone is subsidized now? |
| 20:08.37 | MentalPower | s/is/will be/ |
| 20:08.37 | Lunessa | I just want an iPhone because it's cool. But it is SO not in the budget. |
| 20:09.03 | NightHawkTheSane | MentalPower: in the us, the price of the new 3G iphone is subsidized by at&t, yes. |
| 20:09.34 | kd3 | ya, and they pretty much single-handedly killed the unlock market by making you sign up for a plan before getting the phone |
| 20:09.56 | MentalPower | NightHawkTheSane: whats the unsubsidized price then? |
| 20:10.24 | NightHawkTheSane | don't think there is one available in the US. ;) |
| 20:10.42 | NightHawkTheSane | kd3: precisely |
| 20:10.42 | foxlit | can't you back out before the plan expires naturally? |
| 20:11.03 | kd3 | with an exorbitant early-cancel penalty, sure |
| 20:11.04 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: probably, and pay a exorbinant fee for ending your contact early. |
| 20:11.09 | foxlit | so? |
| 20:11.14 | NightHawkTheSane | exorbitant*, meh. |
| 20:11.21 | foxlit | That fee will probably cancel the subsidy, and not much else |
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| 20:13.12 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/06/09/iphone-3g-the-details-you-never-wanted-to-know/ |
| 20:15.29 | alestane | "the level of excitement felt was commensurate with peeling corn husks. There's probably a listserv for people who do find that exciting, but I'm not a subscriber." |
| 20:16.43 | kd3 | whee PA commentary |
| 20:17.25 | Lunessa | Husking corn. How ... thrilling. |
| 20:18.12 | zenzelezz | hey baby; what do you say we go back to my place and husk some corn? |
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| 20:20.11 | Kirov | I'm sure there are a lot of chicks out there who find husking corn a peeling. |
| 20:20.28 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 20:20.30 | Josh_Borke | ... |
| 20:20.31 | alestane | ~whalenuke Kirov |
| 20:20.32 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Kirov with his mind powers. |
| 20:21.41 | Kirov | sorry, that was just too easy to pass up |
| 20:22.45 | zenzelezz | no problem, in here we all enjoy a good pun |
| 20:23.12 | NightHawkTheSane | zenzelezz: well, we would, if there WERE such a thing as a good pun. |
| 20:23.25 | zenzelezz | NightHawkTheSane: I find your lack of faith disturbing |
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| 20:24.22 | Lunessa | And now for something completely different, a man with three buttocks. |
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| 20:24.31 | Najwa | For the record, I don't husk corn; I just skin the husk back, pull the silk off, and rewrap it in the husk before putting it on the grill. |
| 20:25.57 | Kirov | I'm not sure that needed to be on the record. |
| 20:26.20 | Najwa | I'm pretty sure it didn't. |
| 20:26.37 | NightHawkTheSane | but thats the best way to cook corn >.> |
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| 20:29.05 | Kirov | That's a maze ing. |
| 20:30.00 | Lopeppeppy | Kirov, you're bad. |
| 20:30.13 | NightHawkTheSane | i hope you know, you're both going to pun hell. |
| 20:30.36 | Najwa | You'll be there in my handbasket. |
| 20:33.45 | NightHawkTheSane | well, of course. |
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| 20:35.27 | Cide | Kirov: wow |
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| 20:36.17 | Cide | you win the daily pun award |
| 20:36.34 | Cide | actually, I think that's the best I've heard this month |
| 20:37.05 | Najwa | We don't call the winning pun 'the best'. It's 'the worst'. |
| 20:37.16 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 20:37.19 | Cide | no u |
| 20:38.45 | Lunessa | this is pun-ishing to read. really. |
| 20:39.53 | Cide | Lunessa: punnily enough, you're right |
| 20:40.27 | Lunessa | No need to become a pun-dit, just let it die already. |
| 20:42.00 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy doesn't like puns? |
| 20:42.21 | Lopeppeppy | The ex was a serious punster, they hurt my little Peppy brain right now! |
| 20:43.07 | Shirik | oi |
| 20:43.15 | Shirik | I just lost 5 million brain cells from reading the backlog... |
| 20:43.16 | Kirov | My fiancee loves puns |
| 20:43.49 | Sixen | Cause puns are lots of pun. |
| 20:44.42 | Shirik | I'll kill you |
| 20:44.51 | Cide | I'll pun-t you |
| 20:45.04 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Cide!n=mpdelbuo@conspiracy/developer/Shirik] by Shirik (punted) |
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| 20:45.20 | Cide | haha, that was great |
| 20:45.35 | zenzelezz | I have to say, that's just stupid Shirik |
| 20:45.40 | zenzelezz | Cide's not even been close to being worst |
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| 20:45.50 | Shirik | I know |
| 20:45.58 | Shirik | but Cide will take it in jest :) |
| 20:47.47 | Cide | aye |
| 20:47.57 | AckisWork | at least you haven't branched out to tree puns |
| 20:48.13 | Cide | I like to in-gest things |
| 20:48.18 | Cide | (too subtle?) |
| 20:48.55 | NightHawkTheSane | AckisWork: eh,the problem with tree puns is that they're all bark, no bite. |
| 20:49.08 | Cide | AckisWork: don't worry, wel get just need log2 n steps to get there |
| 20:49.19 | Cide | err |
| 20:49.27 | Cide | AckisWork: don't worry, we'll just need log2 n steps to get there |
| 20:49.44 | AckisWork | you just would've leaf it alone? |
| 20:50.15 | AckisWork | well don't spend too much time pining over them |
| 20:50.41 | Cide | Shirik and Lopeppeppy must be /groaning |
| 20:50.48 | Najwa | Oak-kay. That's enough. |
| 20:52.16 | Najwa | You mentioned an 'ex' who punned, Lopepeppy? Was it a breakup, or justifiable homicide? |
| 20:53.11 | AckisWork | it may have just been punnishment |
| 20:53.17 | zenzelezz | in this case it might be best left alone |
| 20:53.58 | ScytheBlade1 | 16:43 <@Shirik> I just lost 5 million brain cells from reading the backlog... |
| 20:54.02 | ScytheBlade1 | That. |
| 20:54.08 | ScytheBlade1 | You people are terrible. |
| 20:54.14 | Cide | Shirik must've lost billions by now |
| 20:54.38 | Kirov | AckisWork - that pun was already made, it is no longer punny |
| 20:54.38 | Najwa | Poor thinky-meats... |
| 20:54.50 | AckisWork | puns are always funny! |
| 20:55.47 | Najwa | No, they're not. People don't laugh at them. They groan. |
| 20:55.47 | NightHawkTheSane | s/always/never/ |
| 20:55.47 | Cide | it has been expunged from the eligible puns |
| 21:02.44 | Najwa | Ah, so nice and quiet. |
| 21:03.17 | durcyn | ex-punned, Cide? |
| 21:03.54 | Cide | aye, it is now an ex-pun |
| 21:08.36 | Lunessa | Since we're branching out to puns of a floral nature, let me be the first to offer to nip it in the bud. |
| 21:09.36 | Lunessa | *headdesk* http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7116572937&sid=1 |
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| 21:10.08 | Lunessa | Did I not just point the man at everything he needed to know, including an example? |
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| 21:21.57 | AckisWork | Lunessa: how do you create a button with an image in it? |
| 21:22.22 | Lunessa | ~lart AckisWork |
| 21:22.22 | purl | eats AckisWork's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti |
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| 21:58.15 | DARKGuy | rofl |
| 21:58.16 | DARKGuy | http://youtube.com/watch?v=3dWGJ2epdbs |
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| 22:14.34 | CroX | Anyone know VanasKoS addon? I thought I'd rip it up and see if I could add something to it - class detection. But I have no idea where to begin.. |
| 22:14.58 | CroX | Experienced Lua coder but I've never touched WoW addons, so maybe someone could point me in a direction for this particular project? |
| 22:15.31 | Lunessa | CroX: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11381244&sid=1 |
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| 22:16.23 | CroX | Lunessa: Checking. |
| 22:17.17 | CroX | Lunessa: Ahh. RTFM. :> Thanks though, that'll come in handy! |
| 22:17.41 | Lunessa | Seriously, the links in there will give you the tools you need. |
| 22:17.51 | ScytheBlade1 | It's pretty hard to give you the bulk of TFM over IRC :) |
| 22:19.11 | alestane | To be frank, I don't even know that that add-on does, so it's hard for me to point you in any direction at all. |
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| 22:21.00 | alestane | Someone refresh my memory. Does ANSI C allow variable initialization at the time of declaration? |
| 22:21.48 | alestane | I.e. can I say "HFSUnitStr255 kDataFork = FSGetDataForkName();" or do I have to say "HFSUnitStr255 kDataFork; kDataFork = FSGetDataForkName();"? |
| 22:22.29 | Lunessa | alestane: I always did the later. |
| 22:22.39 | Shirik | yes you can, and sometimes it's required |
| 22:23.04 | alestane | Because that's the only way you can use int const j = 0; , for instance. |
| 22:23.11 | Shirik | right |
| 22:23.31 | Shirik | that's also the only way you can use a local static int foo = 0; |
| 22:23.48 | Shirik | the only way you can initialize* |
| 22:24.10 | alestane | Sadly, C++ added a few very useful syntactical shortcuts that have nothing to do with OOP, and have gotten hard for me to distinguish from ANSI C. |
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| 22:24.43 | Shirik | that's because C is ugly in several spots |
| 22:24.45 | Shirik | C++ fixed that |
| 22:25.50 | alestane | For instance, I'm pretty sure C requires that you put all variable declarations in a function before any code that was not a variable declaration, where C++ lets you declare a variable at the point you need to initialize it. |
| 22:26.55 | JoshBorke | alestane: afaicr, C requires you to define variables declarations before any code in a block |
| 22:27.11 | JoshBorke | meaning you can declare variables throughout your function, just at different scopes |
| 22:28.03 | JoshBorke | do tell bleeter! |
| 22:28.04 | alestane | And IIRC the local declaration for (int i = bounds; ; i--) {} is C++ as well. |
| 22:28.30 | JoshBorke | i actually have no idea what is being talked about, tbh |
| 22:28.38 | foxlit | [C99] |
| 22:28.46 | alestane | (Assuming that it wasn't supposed to be "for (int i = bounds; i--; ) {}" ) |
| 22:28.48 | bleeter | JoshBorke: my usage was bad enough at the time, that my code's still with several Linux distros stuns me ;) |
| 22:29.03 | JoshBorke | bleeter: lol |
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| 22:31.31 | alestane | Are there rolling restarts or something? |
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| 22:31.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Ugh, for the love of god, if you're going to ask me about a fix i may or may not have made, BE SPECIFIC. >< |
| 22:32.12 | Shirik | alestane: That's because you can't declare a variable in the middle of scope |
| 22:32.27 | Shirik | however, initializing a variable at declaration time is ok because it's necessary in some places |
| 22:32.59 | alestane | Even from a function? (My memory says yes but I'm so rusty I need to follow up). |
| 22:33.08 | Shirik | you have to be able to |
| 22:33.16 | alestane | That's what I thought. |
| 22:33.17 | Shirik | think about static variables that are local to a function |
| 22:33.24 | Shirik | how do you initialize those? |
| 22:33.28 | Lopeppeppy | NightHawkTheSane, did you or did you not fix that bug where the button was acting funny? |
| 22:33.39 | Shirik | anyway, time to eat |
| 22:33.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: scarily, that is actually FAR more specific than my coworkers have been today. |
| 22:33.54 | Lopeppeppy | Oh jeez. |
| 22:35.26 | NightHawkTheSane | two exact quotes from coworkers, completely out of the blue, without prior context: "what changes are you making for the fix?" and "have you already made a fix in <some stored procedure>?" |
| 22:40.51 | erikd | and i bet you had no idea that you were the one responsible for the fix, right? i seem to get that a lot =/ |
| 22:41.08 | erikd | "did you fix/do <BLAH> yet?" "uhh... did I do what?" |
| 22:42.10 | NightHawkTheSane | well, once i figured out WHAT they were talking about, it wasn't so bad, and most of the time it was actually something i was supposed to do (and already did, to be sure) |
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| 22:46.13 | Shirik | hi! |
| 22:46.20 | Shirik | you all missed me didn't you |
| 22:46.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Hi Dr. Nick! |
| 22:46.25 | Lopeppeppy | I did, Shirik. |
| 22:46.30 | Shirik | <3 |
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| 22:48.18 | JoshBorke | ~failrik |
| 22:48.19 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 22:48.43 | JoshBorke | Shirik: sure did |
| 22:50.45 | NightHawkTheSane | this is clever.. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-TImFizyhfo |
| 22:52.16 | Kaso| | wtf someone else litterally just linked me that in another chat |
| 22:52.25 | Kaso| | where'd you get it from |
| 22:55.20 | NightHawkTheSane | reddit |
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| 22:57.38 | Lunessa | That is one of the oddest things I've ever seen. Amusing. |
| 23:08.28 | Dashkal | that was pretty cool |
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| 23:18.54 | Esamynn | ~fail Tem |
| 23:18.54 | purl | Tem, you Fail! |
| 23:19.32 | bleeter | ~win bleeter |
| 23:19.32 | purl | Congratulations, bleeter! You have won a one way ticket to baghdad! |
| 23:19.37 | bleeter | wootz |
| 23:19.44 | bleeter | tis just up the road |
| 23:19.52 | bleeter | just across the river jordan |
| 23:20.14 | bleeter | south of the walls of jerusalem, iirc |
| 23:20.33 | bleeter | good trout fishing nearby too, i think |
| 23:22.28 | Thunder_Child | and free ammo everywhere you look |
| 23:24.08 | NightHawkTheSane | heh http://photoshopdisasters.blogspot.com/2008/06/washington-post-unlikely.html |
| 23:24.15 | NightHawkTheSane | MC Escher is doing Washington post photos these days i guess.. |
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| 23:25.27 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: At least there's a neighbourhood watch program in place for that ;) http://www.panoramio.com/photo/1124410 |
| 23:27.40 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, what, they watch for free ammo? |
| 23:28.14 | bleeter | strangely enough, yeah... they get all kinds of crazies sending stuff in the mail to the local store |
| 23:29.13 | bleeter | then there was Mr Hussein from Iraq who ran a chocolate shop in one of the major cities here were I live, he basically got closed down by morons from overseas ringing him up all the time... locals had no prob with him 'coz it was a damn fine shop lol :'( miss him |
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| 23:36.04 | NightHawkTheSane | "memo to myself: do the dumb things i gotta do. touch the puppet head." |
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| 23:43.16 | Lunessa | ... You make a memo to yourself to remind you to touch the puppet head? You'll go blind! |
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| 23:44.50 | Thunder_Child | that sir, is a fallacy |
| 23:45.19 | Thunder_Child | you only get mild optical problems |
| 23:45.24 | NightHawkTheSane | There needs to be a "not a bug -- tester incompetent" resolution type in our jira >< |
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| 23:46.02 | Lunessa | never heard of it. |
| 23:46.27 | Thunder_Child | They might be giants |
| 23:46.58 | Lunessa | Oh, yes. Sorry. Didn't connect the tmbg to them. |
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| 23:47.29 | JoshBorke | whistling in teh dark! |
| 23:48.42 | Lunessa | Lunessa is a freak and listens to too much talk-radio. |
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| 23:48.57 | JoshBorke | lunessa also talks in the third person |
| 23:49.30 | Thunder_Child | and doesnt use /me like a normal crazy person talking in the third person |
| 23:49.32 | Lunessa | Lunessa has no clue what you mean. Lunessa is mentally stable and only refers to himself as Lunessa. |
| 23:50.04 | JoshBorke | indeed |
| 23:50.07 | JoshBorke | to TC that is |
| 23:51.06 | NightHawkTheSane | eh |
| 23:51.09 | NightHawkTheSane | it could be worse |
| 23:51.19 | NightHawkTheSane | He could talk about himself in only the 2nd person. |
| 23:51.22 | NightHawkTheSane | that's just CRAZY. |
| 23:51.41 | JoshBorke | that would be quite a skill |
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