| 00:00.57 | Nechckn | indeed... who is this dude name Wine, bleeter? |
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| 00:06.56 | Zurik | i'm having a bit of trouble understanding how SetTexCoord works. |
| 00:07.12 | Zurik | i need to grab a specific area of an image. |
| 00:07.29 | Zurik | is this like a trial and error thing? |
| 00:09.38 | Kaso | sorta, if its one of the default ui images you can prob pull the coords from the framexml |
| 00:09.46 | Kaso | otherwise you gotta calculate / work it out yourself |
| 00:10.23 | Zurik | yeah, i'm trying to get individual race icons .. but it's a pic with all of them in the same image |
| 00:11.29 | Kirov | it's a 4x4 image, right? |
| 00:12.00 | Zurik | um.. pretty sure yeah. |
| 00:12.04 | Kirov | SetTexCoords is a 0-1 from the bottom left. |
| 00:12.09 | Zurik | like 512x256 |
| 00:12.22 | Zurik | that what you ment? |
| 00:12.30 | Kirov | how many icons |
| 00:12.38 | Kirov | resolution doesn't matter |
| 00:12.42 | Kirov | only how many divisions |
| 00:12.48 | Zurik | 20 |
| 00:13.15 | Kirov | how many width wise and how many height wise |
| 00:13.41 | Kirov | I'm assuming it's 8x4 with a lot of empty space |
| 00:14.12 | Zurik | it might be.. |
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| 00:14.29 | Kirov | That's important information |
| 00:14.31 | Zurik | but the dimentions in xnView says 512x256x32 |
| 00:14.39 | Zurik | i am not sure what the 32 is. |
| 00:14.46 | Kaso | color depth |
| 00:14.54 | Zurik | oh.. so that is useless lol |
| 00:14.55 | Kaso | what is the image name, ill look myself >.< |
| 00:15.06 | Kirov | 8 bits for red, blue, green, and opacity |
| 00:15.06 | Zurik | interface |
| 00:15.09 | Zurik | oops |
| 00:16.27 | Zurik | interface\\glues\\CharacterCreate\\UI-CharacterCreate-Races |
| 00:17.16 | Kaso | 5x4 Kirov |
| 00:18.00 | Zurik | did you find it Kaso? |
| 00:18.03 | Kaso | mmhm |
| 00:18.03 | Kirov | It's 8x4 |
| 00:18.10 | Zurik | oh ok. |
| 00:18.14 | Kirov | only 5x4 are shown |
| 00:18.24 | Kirov | but if the icons filled the space it'd be 8x4 |
| 00:18.41 | Kaso | i see, i found a cropped version i guess |
| 00:19.02 | Kaso | dont have the interact extracted atm >< |
| 00:19.28 | Kirov | Zurik - ok, so SetTexCoords is actually very easy to use |
| 00:19.35 | Zurik | ok.. |
| 00:19.46 | Kaso | just a bit of math once you know how the image is divided up |
| 00:19.46 | Zurik | i'm thinking for this we have to use the 8 args |
| 00:20.00 | Kirov | no |
| 00:20.01 | Kirov | only 4 |
| 00:20.07 | Zurik | oh cool |
| 00:20.09 | Kirov | 8 is for if you want to rotate the image, which you don't |
| 00:20.21 | Zurik | oh |
| 00:20.23 | Zurik | ok. |
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| 00:20.56 | [Liquidor] | wtf I've never had more than 25fps pre-tbc and 60tbc now check this :S http://usera.imagecave.com/Liquidor/Screenshots/WoWScrnShot_061008_021016.jpg |
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| 00:21.44 | Zurik | ok Kirov .. lay it on me.. i'm paying attention :D |
| 00:22.06 | Kaso | looking at the floor, of course you;re gonna get a decent fps, its just a single texture to render on a couple polygons |
| 00:22.15 | Kirov | Zurik - the image is broken up in to 8x4, of which the left 20 are used. That means the SetTexCoords for the top left icon would be :SetTexCoord(0,0.125,0.75,1) |
| 00:23.07 | Kirov | (try it if you want) |
| 00:23.11 | Zurik | yeah doing that now |
| 00:23.12 | [Liquidor] | Kaso, it's still compared to before where I also looked at the floor |
| 00:23.19 | [Liquidor] | i thought top fps was 99 |
| 00:23.46 | Kaso | being capped at 99 might be you having a 100hz monitor with vsync on? |
| 00:23.50 | Zurik | that's the bottom left icon? |
| 00:24.01 | Zurik | does it matter the img height i have set? |
| 00:24.07 | Kirov | 0,0.125,0,0.25 |
| 00:24.09 | Kirov | nope |
| 00:24.13 | Zurik | or does that scale? |
| 00:24.16 | Kirov | nope |
| 00:24.19 | Zurik | oh ok.. |
| 00:24.37 | Kirov | resolution of the image, scale of the texture, or size of the texture have zero impact on it |
| 00:24.46 | [Liquidor] | Kaso, i went from 60 to 120 tho without vsync |
| 00:25.00 | Kirov | It's a 0-1 percentage across the texture starting from the bottom left. |
| 00:25.04 | [Liquidor] | Does it eve change anything anyway? |
| 00:25.27 | Zurik | ok.. one sec. |
| 00:25.49 | Kirov | Each icon uses 0.125 (or 12.5%) of the horizontal space of the image, and 0.25 (25%) of the vertical |
| 00:26.02 | Kaso | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/lntkaos/memory.jpg i got that screenshot ages ago, so im not sure |
| 00:26.22 | Sixen | How do you display FPS again? |
| 00:26.29 | kd3 | <ctrl+r> |
| 00:26.38 | Sixen | w00t |
| 00:26.40 | Sixen | averaging 10 |
| 00:26.42 | Sixen | lol |
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| 00:35.13 | Gnarfoz | why would you even disable vsync |
| 00:35.50 | Kirov | Gnarfoz - so you can epeen about your 300 fps in wow |
| 00:35.59 | Gnarfoz | ... profit! |
| 00:36.00 | Dashkal | Because higher FPS is always better.... *sighs* |
| 00:36.19 | Dashkal | I can't help but laugh when I see people who say "I'll never let my FPS drop below 80"... |
| 00:38.05 | Kirov | $600 video card, $1000 CPU, $300 MB, $500 HD, $300 RAM, $50 Case w/ free PS, $100 LCD with a max res of 1024x768 and a 40ms refresh.... but the screen says 400 fps!!! |
| 00:39.47 | Kirov | I have fond memories of rich kids and their 22" CRTs running at 640x480@60hz |
| 00:39.50 | Gnarfoz | either that's overpriced or I'd think a $50 w/-the-case-psu wouldn't be able to run a $600 video card ^^ |
| 00:40.38 | Kirov | Gnarfoz - fine, $50 case w/ $120 PS |
| 00:40.49 | Kirov | Genarik brand |
| 00:41.08 | Kirov | (So chinese they couldn't even spell generic right) |
| 00:41.59 | Kirov | Equipped with a miniature leaf blower, because louder is more awesomer |
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| 00:43.47 | Kirov | There was an awesome tutorial on modding your PC for faster framerates a while back. Basically making fun of ricers. They added a new paint job, spinners, fat exaust pipes, a tail fin, and window stickers. Equated each to extra mhz to the CPU (each sticker was worth 50mhz) |
| 00:48.50 | Diskmaster | --funroll-all --fexplode-code --fDAMMITRUNFASTER |
| 00:54.13 | Zurik | wow.. when it clicks .. it just really clicks doesn't it. |
| 00:54.30 | Zurik | Kirov: i wasn't getting it.. and then all the sudden.. i totally got it. |
| 00:54.36 | Zurik | and your right.. it's uber easy :D |
| 00:55.05 | Kirov | Zurik - Glad to be of help. |
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| 01:10.15 | Zurik | Kirov: so if it's a 4x4 image then what does each icon use? is it the same amount? |
| 01:10.58 | Kirov | what's 1 / 4? |
| 01:11.18 | Kirov | 0.25 |
| 01:11.21 | Zurik | oh wow.. Zurik needs to learn to free think. |
| 01:11.34 | Zurik | ../slapself.. |
| 01:11.48 | Zurik | lol |
| 01:12.01 | Zurik | thanks again. |
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| 01:48.51 | Kaso | http://englishrussia.com/?p=1945#more-1945 |
| 01:48.56 | Kaso | stalker for real. |
| 01:49.03 | Kaso | thats awesome |
| 01:49.35 | [Liquidor] | Kaso, http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll318/Synical01_bucket/10000fps.jpg then? |
| 01:49.49 | Kaso | cheats! |
| 01:50.01 | Drundia | they lie, there is no "high dose of radiation in the soil" anywhere any more really |
| 01:51.20 | [Liquidor] | Kaso, he actually managed 1033 but then it kinda bugged and froze at 1000 |
| 01:51.38 | Kaso | how? |
| 01:51.40 | Drundia | hmm, fps starts from like 1000 when you log in |
| 01:52.03 | [Liquidor] | he's uploading another pic where he doesn't look down in the floor |
| 01:52.10 | DARKGuy | Kaso, that has better graphics than COD4, do you know when it's gonna be released? ;P |
| 01:52.13 | [Liquidor] | on |
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| 01:55.37 | DARKGuy | Teh Shiz though! -> http://englishrussia.com/?p=1966 :D |
| 01:56.05 | Kaso | Thats clearly not a dragon though |
| 01:56.10 | Kaso | its an alien from aliens |
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| 01:57.47 | DARKGuy | Nice dueling -> http://englishrussia.com/?p=1963 |
| 01:57.50 | DARKGuy | yeah :( |
| 01:57.51 | DARKGuy | but still cool |
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| 02:01.42 | Kaso | They actually sell fiber audio cables with gold plated connectors >.< |
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| 02:01.59 | kd3 | hai2u monster |
| 02:03.23 | kd3 | heyo |
| 02:03.35 | Sixen | So, what distro of Linux do you use? |
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| 02:04.03 | kd3 | fedora |
| 02:04.14 | Sixen | Ah, I see. That's free too, right? |
| 02:04.19 | kd3 | of course |
| 02:04.25 | Sixen | Mmmm, =p. |
| 02:04.29 | Sixen | I've been using Ubuntu, =o. |
| 02:04.29 | kd3 | the only non-free software on this box is the games... |
| 02:04.37 | Sixen | haha |
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| 02:09.00 | Diskmaster | s/Gentoo/Gentoo Unstable+-zenpatchset+semi-ricer cflags (read: -mtune=core2) |
| 02:09.29 | WobWork | you missed the trailing / |
| 02:09.30 | Diskmaster | I don't mind it that much once ccache is up and running |
| 02:09.35 | Diskmaster | ... whoops |
| 02:09.57 | kd3 | bah. screw the compilefest. I've got a quadcore. precomp stuff works just fine |
| 02:11.04 | Sixen | :P |
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| 02:11.59 | DARKGuy | damn your quadcore |
| 02:12.00 | DARKGuy | I want one D: |
| 02:12.06 | Diskmaster | os[Linux 2.6.26-rc5-zen2 x86_64] distro[Gentoo Linux "~amd64"] cpu[2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6850 @ 3.00GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 3.00GHz] mem[Physical: 3.9GB, 84.4% free] disk[Total: 454.4GB, 59.5% free] video[10de:0422] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia] |
| 02:12.22 | DARKGuy | D: |
| 02:12.37 | Diskmaster | There's no real point to having a quadcore, as far as I've seen |
| 02:13.01 | kd3 | meh. once things start getting more multithreaded, they will. wow takes advantage of all 4 |
| 02:13.25 | Diskmaster | Last time I checked, it didn't. It takes advantage of two. |
| 02:13.41 | Diskmaster | Lest that got changed recently, anyway. |
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| 02:27.03 | starlon | WoW uses 2 of my 4 cores |
| 02:27.19 | DARKGuy | a waste |
| 02:27.23 | starlon | It knows I have 4 cores though. |
| 02:27.25 | kd3 | meh, I'm seeing 50-60% usage of all 4 of mine. guess it is only using 2 |
| 02:27.41 | kd3 | though it's probably limited by my 8600gt |
| 02:34.24 | kd3 | whee, power blinks |
| 02:35.19 | Lopeppeppy | Heya. |
| 02:35.34 | Lopeppeppy | When I have brownouts the first thing that drops is my IRC, I have the devil's own time getting it back. |
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| 02:39.38 | bleeter_ | kd3: fwiw, I've just set up wireless on F9 with a crappy old broadcom based device. had to get firmware from elsewhere to get it happening, but the somewhere else was referenced in dmesg. apart from that, wireless worked outta the box. |
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| 02:39.52 | bleeter_ | lol |
| 02:39.58 | bleeter_ | kd3|hate`net: fwiw, I've just set up wireless on F9 with a crappy old broadcom based device. had to get firmware from elsewhere to get it happening, but the somewhere else was referenced in dmesg. apart from that, wireless worked outta the box. |
| 02:40.09 | bleeter_ | I sent that about 30 seconds before you rejoined |
| 02:40.55 | kd3 | heh. how far times have come... I resorted to some cheapass off-brand wireless nic back in '03 because the linksys I bought was broadcom and there were no drivers for it back then |
| 02:42.03 | bleeter | still gotta use the broadcom firmware, but the extraction tool's installed by default now, and a d/l location for the f/w is shown in dmesg. aye, a heck of a lot easier now. almost usable ;) |
| 02:42.17 | kd3 | lol |
| 02:45.29 | Duman | hmm |
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| 02:55.13 | Sixen | Hmm~ |
| 02:57.33 | kd3 | ye gods I love the local power grid |
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| 03:16.07 | hi11ie | does anyone know if it's at all possible to grab keypresses from pageup/pagedown while the editbox is in focus? |
| 03:16.31 | hi11ie | or make it so they still scroll the chat frame? |
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| 03:38.54 | Kirov | hi11ie - you can watch the OnKeyDown script handler for the EditBox to see when PageUp and PageDown have been pressed |
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| 04:08.02 | hi11ie | Kirov: thx |
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| 05:07.50 | hi11ie | Kirov: listen to which OnKeyUp? nothing happens when I listen to the OnKeyUp of the editbox or the chat frame.. setting the OnKeyUp of "this" breaks everything |
| 05:08.23 | hi11ie | (i -am- using EnableKeyboard(true)) |
| 05:13.36 | Kirov | EditBox |
| 05:15.20 | Kirov | http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_handlers#EditBox |
| 05:15.44 | Kirov | OnKeyUp / OnKeyDown say the frameStrata of the editbox needs to be Dialog |
| 05:16.27 | hi11ie | it is |
| 05:16.32 | hi11ie | i looked in ChatFrame.xml |
| 05:17.20 | hi11ie | <EditBox name="ChatFrameEditBoxTemplate" ignoreArrows="true" frameStrata="DIALOG" toplevel="true" historyLines="32" letters="255" hidden="true" virtual="true"> |
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| 05:49.18 | Kirov | Not really sure then. |
| 05:49.55 | Kirov | I think you can still catch it via OnChar |
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| 06:04.09 | hi11ie | i will try it later. for now im off to sleep.. thx again |
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| 06:37.30 | kd3 | lmfao... Koraa posted in the "Now to Ollie for the Shaman Report" thread |
| 06:37.50 | Corrodias | hmmm? link? |
| 06:37.56 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6440896153&pageNo=23&sid=1#443 |
| 06:38.26 | Corrodias | thanks |
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| 06:50.59 | Arrowmaster | lol |
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| 08:40.56 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 08:41.34 | Fisker- | hope that Windows figured out to use my ethernet connection :o |
| 08:41.45 | Fisker- | net was down so got my mobile running as a modem |
| 08:41.56 | Fisker- | then i found out that my isp had fixed the connection |
| 08:41.57 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 08:44.48 | Fisker- | Sid Meier's Civilization IV: Colonization >:O |
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| 12:59.16 | Shirik | well this is pretty awesome |
| 12:59.19 | Shirik | my package went back in time |
| 12:59.27 | Shirik | US 06/09/2008 5:51 P.M. BILLING INFORMATION RECEIVED |
| 12:59.35 | Shirik | THIEF RIVER FALLS, |
| 12:59.41 | Shirik | MN, US 06/09/2008 4:47 P.M. ORIGIN SCAN |
| 12:59.52 | Shirik | how did they pick it up before it was tagged... |
| 13:02.36 | Fisker- | it's the matrix |
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| 13:26.33 | foxlit | meh, tracking websites need predictive functionality |
| 13:26.50 | foxlit | Presumably someone knows how your package is going to be routed; why not display that as well :) |
| 13:29.05 | Shirik | grr, where's Cide |
| 13:29.09 | Shirik | I need his matrix guruness |
| 13:29.16 | zenzio | when my friend in New Mexico decided to get me hooked on WoW he sent it to me by FedEx. I found their tracking pretty impressive, I could watch it update very fast all the way through somewhere in Texas (Fort something?), across the pond, Paris, Oslo... then it stopped when they had to shift to a different company |
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| 13:40.43 | Fisker- | http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7723298&posted=1#post7723298 <-this guy deserves a medal |
| 13:40.46 | Fisker- | the one i'm quoting of course |
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| 13:53.05 | Lopeppeppy | ..... |
| 13:53.13 | Lopeppeppy | The things I see first thing in the morning. |
| 13:54.54 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 13:55.01 | Fisker- | Shirik didn't realize it was a trap though |
| 13:55.06 | zenzio | don't worry peppy, I'll protect you |
| 13:55.21 | zenzio | I was about to say "from the freak", but that would be a bit ironic |
| 13:56.35 | Lopeppeppy | Yes it would, considering who we all are here. |
| 13:57.12 | Fisker- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMZUq9P0uwg <-appropiate timing for stealing camera space :D |
| 13:57.14 | zenzio | anyway, going home! |
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| 14:52.17 | Kaso | I like this image; http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/lntkaos/ms.png |
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| 14:52.22 | Kaso | Make your mind up microsoft |
| 14:52.35 | Kaso | purl, lolwut? |
| 14:52.51 | Ackis | i hate you purl :P |
| 14:53.21 | Ackis | purl talks to me when I join the channel... I do a lot of coding at work so things are dry-coded and followed up w/ a "typo" fix |
| 14:53.22 | purl | Ackis: that's too long |
| 14:53.45 | Kaso | heh |
| 14:54.37 | Ackis | and i can't install wow at work... was going to copy it over but it's 8 gigs now =/ |
| 14:55.30 | Lopeppeppy | Portable drive FTW? |
| 14:55.36 | Fisker- | heck |
| 14:55.42 | Fisker- | my usb stick is even 8GB |
| 14:55.57 | Ackis | i only have a 2 gig and 512 meg one |
| 14:55.59 | Fisker- | even my phone could cary it |
| 14:56.01 | Fisker- | carry* |
| 14:56.08 | Fisker- | And my mp3 player |
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| 14:56.14 | Fisker- | and my portable harddrive |
| 14:56.30 | Fisker- | I don't even have a piece of tranportable storage that cannot carry it :( |
| 14:56.37 | Ackis | there's files for wow > 2 gigs that I didn't feel like splitting |
| 14:57.02 | Fisker- | shouldn't be playing at work anyways |
| 14:57.08 | Fisker- | and they probably block you anyways |
| 14:57.15 | Ackis | I have downtime |
| 14:57.17 | Ackis | :P |
| 14:57.23 | Ackis | I was able to get eve working |
| 15:00.05 | Fisker- | just download it online :P |
| 15:00.11 | Fisker- | or use the streamer |
| 15:00.23 | Ackis | streamer doesn't work, it just dls the entire thing |
| 15:00.28 | Fisker- | :o? |
| 15:00.30 | Ackis | aye |
| 15:00.38 | Ackis | and I can't run the install program |
| 15:01.30 | Fisker- | can't run how? |
| 15:01.41 | Ackis | needs admin privs |
| 15:01.55 | Fisker- | oooooooowned |
| 15:02.35 | Fisker- | the wowstreamer doesn't download anything here |
| 15:02.47 | Fisker- | other than the initial files and a patch |
| 15:02.48 | Ackis | it downloaded like 4 gigs of data |
| 15:02.53 | Ackis | link? |
| 15:04.15 | Fisker- | and i can login |
| 15:04.15 | Fisker- | to the part where it says i have a full version :P |
| 15:04.15 | Fisker- | http://www.wow-europe.com/shared/wow-com/downloads/files/wow-trial/enGB/TryWoW.exe |
| 15:04.16 | Fisker- | from the official site |
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| 15:04.23 | Fisker- | it starts the installer, downloads for a minute or so, starts a patcher that downloads a 4MB patch and then starts up |
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| 15:04.26 | Ackis | ahh enUS here :P |
| 15:04.55 | Ackis | and for tne enGB version it doesn't work past a certain point |
| 15:04.55 | Fisker- | it's based on the same tech |
| 15:05.13 | Fisker- | what do you mean? |
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| 15:05.51 | Ackis | the enUS downloads everything not sure why... the enGB gets to about 80% and then crashes because it's trying to write into a directory I don't have permissions for |
| 15:06.09 | Fisker- | have you launched the game at the point? |
| 15:06.18 | Ackis | no, I'm still in the installer |
| 15:06.43 | Fisker- | mine just installs |
| 15:07.24 | Fisker- | i has idea |
| 15:07.35 | Ackis | my computer is locked up tighter than a nuns vagoo at work |
| 15:07.50 | Fisker- | nah |
| 15:08.05 | Ackis | but the question is how do I get the enUS streamer? |
| 15:08.57 | wereHamster | < Fisker-> even my phone could cary it - since quake3 works on an iphone, why not port wow to it? |
| 15:08.58 | Fisker- | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/files/pc/TryWoW.exe |
| 15:09.04 | Fisker- | iphones suck |
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| 15:09.42 | Ackis | yah that link dls the entire think |
| 15:09.49 | Fisker- | not here |
| 15:09.53 | Fisker- | but i has idea |
| 15:10.00 | Ackis | and that is? |
| 15:10.05 | Fisker- | yo momma |
| 15:10.06 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 15:10.11 | Ackis | lawls |
| 15:11.13 | Fisker- | do you have winrar? |
| 15:11.19 | Ackis | not at work |
| 15:11.29 | Ackis | only winzip |
| 15:11.32 | Fisker- | you fail |
| 15:11.34 | Fisker- | massively |
| 15:12.14 | Ackis | heh |
| 15:12.22 | Fisker- | there's nothing to heh about :( |
| 15:15.55 | Fisker- | in 8 minutes i'll reveal my devious scheme |
| 15:16.17 | Ackis | :O |
| 15:16.21 | Ackis | I'm not at work right now btw :P |
| 15:17.26 | kd3 | huh? fark: [Weird] "The road was closed while the Hartford Police Department's bomb squad came and blew up the chicken" |
| 15:17.42 | Lopeppeppy | Huzzah for the Hartford bomb squad! |
| 15:18.09 | foxlit | exploding cows, next |
| 15:19.04 | Fisker- | oh |
| 15:19.07 | Fisker- | then screw you Ackis :( |
| 15:19.55 | Ackis | :( |
| 15:25.25 | Josh_Borke | Cairenn: kaelten is a meany head |
| 15:25.32 | Josh_Borke | i had purl comfort him and he larted em! |
| 15:25.37 | Josh_Borke | s/em/me/ |
| 15:25.43 | Kaelten | ~lart Josh_Borke |
| 15:25.43 | purl | takes out a cattle prod and gives Josh_Borke a good jolt |
| 15:25.48 | Kaelten | I always lart josh |
| 15:25.51 | Josh_Borke | ~comfort Kaelten |
| 15:25.52 | purl | There, there, Kaelten. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 15:25.58 | Kaelten | its how I show him affection |
| 15:26.13 | Josh_Borke | how's the new place? |
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| 16:04.23 | [Liquidor] | This post wins the interwebz: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=4357487802&sid=1 |
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| 16:30.15 | zenzelezz | anyone remember that horrible old bike-police TV-series "Pacific Blue"? |
| 16:30.55 | zenzelezz | years and years ago they showed it on TV here in the summer, and since then it has been a tradition to show it. Last year they didn't, and they got flooded with complaints |
| 16:31.02 | zenzelezz | despite how no-one will admit to liking it |
| 16:31.13 | Nechckn | wow... I remember that, barely |
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| 16:31.31 | zenzelezz | (and yes, they're showing it again this year) |
| 16:32.19 | Lopeppeppy | I almost vaguely know of a show like that, but I get it confused in my mind with Hill Street Blues and Baywatch. *sigh* |
| 16:33.43 | Nechckn | I loves me some HSB!! |
| 16:34.00 | Nechckn | Baywatch... meh, not so much |
| 16:34.06 | Nechckn | I was not sorry to see it go |
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| 16:34.22 | Nechckn | Internet porn is so much more interesting |
| 16:36.19 | cog|work | http://www.theonion.com/content/video/warcraft_sequel_lets_gamers_play |
| 16:36.21 | zenzelezz | and your friends are less likely to find out you watch it |
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| 16:41.34 | Shirik | anyone familiar with performing perspective correction mathematically? (wtb Cide...) |
| 16:41.38 | Shirik | ~seen Cide |
| 16:41.43 | purl | cide <n=Cide@hus110a.bobbnet.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 18h 56m 7s ago, saying: '/bow'. |
| 16:43.04 | zenzelezz | see, your "zomg no OGL ogo GDI!!" is coming back to haunt you |
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| 16:44.12 | Shirik | :( zenzelezz |
| 16:44.22 | Shirik | Does OpenGL have something like that? |
| 16:44.45 | Shirik | While I realize that this is technically a 3D transform, it's coming from a 2D image (digital camera). Can I still use OpenGL? |
| 16:44.46 | MentalPower | as in blurring? |
| 16:44.47 | zenzelezz | believe both OpenGL and DX do it automatically unless you tell them not to |
| 16:45.10 | Shirik | no MentalPower, the problem is I have a camera taking a picture of a rectangular object |
| 16:45.20 | Shirik | but because the camera isn't in front of the object, it's not a rectangle |
| 16:45.23 | Shirik | it's more of a trapesoid |
| 16:45.31 | zenzelezz | I assume you're using GDI for a reason, so I'm just teasing |
| 16:45.33 | Shirik | I need to correct that rectangle (and everything inside it) |
| 16:45.34 | MentalPower | oh, photoshop will do that |
| 16:45.42 | zenzelezz | but I imagine you could put the texture on a polygon and rotate it |
| 16:45.54 | zenzelezz | or transform in some other way |
| 16:45.56 | Shirik | well yes MentalPower, but I need to do it in code :P |
| 16:46.01 | MentalPower | or do you want to do it realtime |
| 16:46.05 | MentalPower | ah, nm :) |
| 16:46.09 | MentalPower | 3d transform |
| 16:46.17 | Shirik | I know there's a correction matrix to do it |
| 16:46.19 | Shirik | I just don't know it |
| 16:46.32 | MentalPower | assign the picture to a polygon... what zenzelezz said |
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| 16:47.49 | Shirik | I think that's backwards |
| 16:47.57 | Shirik | maybe I'm just confused though |
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| 16:48.27 | zenzelezz | I don't fully understand what you're trying to do; so take what I said with a grain of salt :-p |
| 16:48.48 | zenzelezz | I'm not that familiar with advanced graphics coding |
| 16:50.04 | Shirik | this explains it well http://www.iiit.ac.in/techreports/2007_107.pdf |
| 16:50.20 | Shirik | look at the license plate picture, I want what I'm getting (A) to become flat (B) |
| 16:50.32 | zenzelezz | looks like the Google result I got. Didn't bother opening the PDF since it sounded above my knowledge anyway |
| 16:50.59 | Shirik | the picture is fairly simple to understand the problem :) |
| 16:52.11 | Shirik | the solution, on the other hand... |
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| 16:55.07 | Shirik | ! |
| 16:55.14 | Shirik | D3D has a perspective transform matrix |
| 16:55.32 | Shirik | and since I'm already using directshow... |
| 16:57.46 | Lopeppeppy | Well then. |
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| 17:38.49 | Cide | Shirik: you were looking for me? |
| 17:39.03 | [Ammo] | he wanted your matrix power :) |
| 17:39.15 | Cide | my matrix fu is pretty weak |
| 17:39.46 | [Ammo] | [18:41] <@Shirik> anyone familiar with performing perspective correction mathematically? (wtb Cide...) |
| 17:40.10 | Cide | I don't think I'd be very useful |
| 17:40.15 | Cide | Shirik: you should ask iriel |
| 17:40.16 | [Ammo] | last time I did the math for that was 10 years ago |
| 17:40.46 | [Ammo] | scratch the 10 make it 15 |
| 17:40.47 | [Ammo] | urgh |
| 17:40.48 | Fisker- | Cide is more of an asp.net controls guy |
| 17:40.54 | Cide | clearly :P |
| 17:41.47 | [Ammo] | all I remember is sin and cos being used :) |
| 17:42.30 | Cide | the 2x2 rotation matrix is [ cos v, -sin v ] \n [ sin v, cos v ] |
| 17:43.30 | [Ammo] | I used to know this stuff in high school |
| 17:43.32 | Fisker- | AH |
| 17:43.33 | Fisker- | STUPID ME |
| 17:44.08 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 17:44.42 | Fisker- | couldn't figure out why SelectedNode.Text was causing a crash |
| 17:44.56 | Fisker- | obviously it was because i ran it in page_load instead of selectednodeindex_changed |
| 17:44.58 | Fisker- | ;_;_ |
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| 17:54.05 | Cide | what's I got to do with it? :/ |
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| 18:01.40 | Lunessa | ... skidoosh! |
| 18:01.57 | Lopeppeppy | Hello, dear. *hug* |
| 18:02.46 | Lunessa | How is everyone? |
| 18:02.57 | Lopeppeppy | Grrr, cranky Peppy. Rwar. |
| 18:08.47 | Fisker- | Cide :( |
| 18:08.52 | Fisker- | how do i shot treeviews? :( |
| 18:09.10 | Fisker- | i'm loading an xml file for the treeview but the stupid shit is using the tags rather than their values for displaying it |
| 18:13.33 | kd3 | anyone got any more suggestions for infodump macros? http://wowi.pastey.net/89286 |
| 18:16.30 | Lunessa | enchating/crafting links? |
| 18:16.49 | kd3 | oofh |
| 18:16.52 | kd3 | *ooh |
| 18:19.53 | Shirik | Cide: ping |
| 18:21.58 | Cide | pong |
| 18:22.37 | Shirik | omg where have you been today :( I needed your matrix expertise! |
| 18:22.55 | Cide | Cide> my matrix fu is pretty weak |
| 18:22.56 | Cide | :P |
| 18:22.57 | Lopeppeppy | [13:40] Cide: I don't think I'd be very useful |
| 18:22.57 | Lopeppeppy | [13:40] Cide: Shirik: you should ask iriel |
| 18:23.07 | Shirik | :( |
| 18:23.23 | Shirik | but you know all this matrix transformation stuff! |
| 18:23.35 | Cide | I know the 2x2 rotation matrix :P |
| 18:23.40 | Cide | and some transformation stuff |
| 18:23.45 | Cide | like translation |
| 18:23.47 | Shirik | how about perspective transformation >.> |
| 18:23.56 | Cide | nope :P |
| 18:23.59 | Shirik | T_T |
| 18:24.39 | Cide | sorry honey |
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| 18:25.55 | Cide | back later, sweden vs greece! |
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| 18:34.40 | Lunessa | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/06/08/funny-pictures-awesome-ninja-skills-i-has-dem/ |
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| 18:42.29 | Nechckn | Lunessa I love those... the neighborhood squirrel's have had a baby or two so they are just now learning to forage and muck about... too fun to watch. |
| 18:43.16 | Nechckn | I know one is a ninja.. you only see a shadow then -boom- nuts left out on deck are gone |
| 18:47.15 | Lunessa | We have a lot of squirrels here on campus; we're on a wildlife refuge. They do tear things up. |
| 18:51.29 | Lopeppeppy | Squirrels are very destructive. |
| 18:51.59 | Sixen | Agreed. |
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| 18:53.36 | Nechckn | they are.. but they are so cute |
| 18:53.44 | Nechckn | and crazy!! |
| 18:53.51 | Lopeppeppy | Good eatin', too |
| 18:55.55 | Dashkal | O.o how would you find enough meat? |
| 18:56.10 | Lopeppeppy | Um, bring home a whole bag full? |
| 18:56.33 | Dashkal | Sounds like too much prep work :p |
| 18:56.49 | Lopeppeppy | Nah, boil 'em up, meat floats right off. |
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| 18:57.43 | Lunessa | Pardon me, captain, but um... them's good eatin. |
| 18:57.51 | Dashkal | ooo, that sounds like it would work wonderfully :p |
| 18:58.08 | Lopeppeppy | I'm a redneck geek girl, I know these things! |
| 18:59.21 | Dashkal | Duly noted |
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| 20:24.38 | [Liquidor] | Gnome Paladin: http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/3332/wowscrnshot061008185845ze1.jpg |
| 20:29.47 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet |
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| 20:36.32 | Lunessa | http://www.theonion.com/content/node/80992 |
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| 20:39.06 | foxlit | Lunessa is spying on my browser! |
| 20:39.18 | Lopeppeppy | *gasp* |
| 20:39.24 | Dashkal | rofl |
| 20:39.33 | Lunessa | Yeah... how else am I going to get access to all your pay-for-porn sites? |
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| 20:43.35 | foxlit | onion videos are awesome, http://www.theonion.com/content/video/in_the_know_are_we_giving_the too |
| 20:43.48 | zenzelezz | http://www.gucomics.com/comic/?cdate= \o/ |
| 20:49.03 | Duman | forums ate their face again |
| 20:49.12 | Lopeppeppy | Pretty normal for a Tuesday |
| 20:49.15 | Duman | hehe yeah |
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| 20:53.49 | hi11ie | anyone ever gotten OnKeyDown working with the editbox? |
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| 20:54.22 | Snago | wowi down? |
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| 20:56.05 | Shirik | Snago: The DNS servers are moving is my understanding |
| 20:56.10 | Shirik | I don't really know the details |
| 20:56.18 | Shirik | they're already up, but they have to propogate I assume |
| 20:56.42 | Shirik | actually I see it up now >.> |
| 20:56.56 | Shirik | my dns > yours |
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| 20:57.49 | Snago | wtb better dns :'( |
| 20:58.52 | Shirik | I can give you the IP to see if it helps |
| 20:58.56 | Shirik | might not get you far though |
| 20:59.14 | Shirik | Non-authoritative answer: |
| 20:59.14 | Shirik | Name: wowinterface.com |
| 20:59.15 | Shirik | Address: 67.228.49.65 |
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| 21:30.01 | Lunessa | This... this is just EVIL: http://www.imdb.com/news/ni0246336/ |
| 21:30.38 | Lopeppeppy | *cries* |
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| 21:33.52 | Tenchworks | ... |
| 21:34.10 | Tenchworks | i just can't see that one happening |
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| 21:35.31 | Shirik | lol |
| 21:35.32 | zenzelezz | ah, smurfs... now that brings back memories from Anarchy Online |
| 21:35.37 | Shirik | action? drama? |
| 21:35.52 | Shirik | what kind of movie will it be? |
| 21:36.03 | Lopeppeppy | Lollerskate party |
| 21:44.02 | kd3 | har at looting 6s66c |
| 21:46.32 | foxlit | gnolls + human keeps == qqq |
| 21:47.31 | zenzelezz | I once knew a christian with pretty strong belief; he stopped playing some MMO (SWG or AO or something, don't remember exactly) because his character kept doing 666 points of damage |
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| 21:52.21 | alestane | Some sort of Jehovah's Witness or other Revelationist, most likely. |
| 21:53.52 | zenzelezz | not sure what he was, he was... hard to talk to. He stormed out of IRC 2 year, 284 days ago stating "I hate any and all religions that lead people away from God (the false religions)" in response to one of the resident channel (not this channel) troll |
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| 22:14.55 | alestane | Well, for all that it's fairly well known that 666 is the number of the Devil, the only reference to that in the Bible of which I'm aware is in the book of Revelation, by John the Divine, which is one of the more controversial books of the Bible. I was once told by a divinity scholar that it was included in early compilations of the Bible only because the early Christian theologians couldn't agree on what it meant and therefore couldn |
| 22:15.19 | alestane | So the left it in for future generations to consider and decide, because they couldn't be sure it wasn't important. |
| 22:16.48 | Kaso | 616 is the number of the beast |
| 22:16.57 | Lunessa | It does make for pretty entertaining reading. |
| 22:17.29 | alestane | It seems fairly clear to me that John was on /something/, even if it was only some hardcore meditation. |
| 22:20.03 | Lunessa | Hey, they didn't understand water cleanliness or food safety. My money is on wheat ergot - from whence we have derived LSD. |
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| 22:21.08 | cladhaire | http://www.mega64.com/assassinscreed.htm |
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| 22:26.30 | alestane | Kaso: "Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six." |
| 22:27.06 | zenzelezz | there's been heavy discussion about that for ages |
| 22:27.16 | zenzelezz | even people saying it's a referrence to Nero |
| 22:28.07 | Kaso | In May 2005, it was reported that scholars at Oxford University using advanced imaging techniques had been able to read previously illegible portions of the earliest known record of the Book of Revelation, from the Oxyrhynchus site, Papyrus 115, dating to the mid to late third century. The fragment gives the Number of the Beast as 616 (chi, iota, stigma), rather than the majority text 666 (chi, xi, stigma). |
| 22:28.12 | Kaso | wikipedia quote |
| 22:28.33 | Kaso | but stephen fry said it was 616 too, and i trust fry with my life |
| 22:29.38 | foxlit | I think the issue here is why would the beast reserve only one number to begin with |
| 22:29.38 | alestane | The actor? |
| 22:30.18 | foxlit | Should so have claimed pi |
| 22:30.23 | Kaso | heh |
| 22:30.43 | kd3 | not that anyone knew of pi 2k years ago... |
| 22:30.50 | zenzelezz | I'm more inclined to believe the Nero theorists than the satan theorists |
| 22:31.02 | Kaso | they did, it was 3, with the cubits and stuff kd3 |
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| 22:31.24 | Kaso | alestane Stephen fry? actor comedian, etc |
| 22:32.27 | alestane | Actually, the Greek mathematicians were familiar with pi, and found it quite confounding. It bothered them because they were convinced that all numbers should be expressible as ratios, especially numbers as fundamentally determinable as pi. |
| 22:33.39 | Kaso | I do recall the 256/81 aproximation |
| 22:34.04 | Kaso | but of course i couldt go without mentioning the "ten cubits from the one brim to the other [...]and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about" |
| 22:34.25 | alestane | Numbers that defied rational expression (pi, the golden ratio; I don't believe they knew about e) had a rather mystical quality. |
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| 22:37.01 | Zurik | what is the default UI checkbox template? |
| 22:37.18 | Zurik | i mean the name of it? |
| 22:37.30 | Zurik | equiv of GameMenuButtonTemplate for checkboxes |
| 22:38.28 | alestane | For appearance? |
| 22:38.31 | Zurik | yes |
| 22:38.32 | clad|sleep | UICheckButtonTemplate |
| 22:38.49 | Zurik | thanks :) |
| 22:39.57 | cog|work | clad|sleep: liar |
| 22:39.59 | cog|work | ;) |
| 22:40.07 | cog|work | (re: |sleep) |
| 22:41.08 | alestane | I was confounded because I used to look that up from the UI Options code and walk backwards through the inheritances, but when they revamped the interface options system a couple patches ago, they apparently copied the definition of UICheckButtonTemplate into InterfaceOptionsBaseCheckButtonTemplate rather then inheriting it. |
| 22:42.22 | alestane | Probably because they wanted a couple different types of text characteristics. |
| 22:43.06 | Zurik | so which one is better to use? |
| 22:43.14 | Zurik | or does it not really matter? |
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| 22:43.38 | frop | hello |
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| 22:43.45 | frop | anyone raiding RoS? |
| 22:44.03 | alestane | UICheckButtonTemplate is sort of the "base" and provides a good basic check button. There's no behavior or anything attached to it, so except for appearance it's a blank slate. |
| 22:44.40 | Zurik | right .. but i do a SetScript( for all that stuff right? |
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| 23:08.15 | alestane | Or define it in XML with a <Scripts></Scripts> block. |
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| 23:13.24 | zenzelezz | I should roll alts more often, so I don't keep forgetting how painful it is to level one |
| 23:13.54 | Lunessa | zomg cog|work You told the guy the answer he was being a dick about... |
| 23:22.04 | Kaso | http://img.waffleimages.com/3a0d73b1036cbd56e17e4d42f3b2e38b0070c8b2/cheese.jpg |
| 23:22.04 | cog|work | Lunessa: you do know who undercut is, right? |
| 23:22.07 | Kaso | Mmmm Cheese |
| 23:22.15 | Lunessa | negative cog|work |
| 23:27.54 | cog|work | bbl |
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