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| 00:33.25 | Duman | hmm |
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| 00:39.51 | Duman | hrm |
| 00:42.41 | alestane | hrm? |
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| 00:54.29 | Shirik | how would one go about disabling hardware sound if they can't get into wow? |
| 00:54.48 | Lopeppeppy | Edit the config file? |
| 00:55.01 | Shirik | is it in there? |
| 00:56.13 | Lopeppeppy | Dunno, go see! *hug* |
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| 01:04.37 | Shirik | bleeter: God knows Lopeppeppy already does it |
| 01:05.11 | Lopeppeppy | I do what? Huh? |
| 01:05.34 | Shirik | ping me randomly >.> |
| 01:05.41 | bleeter | mwhahaha |
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| 01:07.46 | JoshBorke | hola |
| 01:07.51 | JoshBorke | ~failrik |
| 01:07.51 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 01:07.58 | DARKGuy | lol |
| 01:07.59 | DARKGuy | hola :P |
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| 01:09.44 | Shirik | it's ok |
| 01:09.48 | Shirik | I'm going to do it to bleeter anyway |
| 01:09.54 | Shirik | like that ^ |
| 01:10.22 | DARKGuy | you're a blit |
| 01:10.31 | DARKGuy | :D |
| 01:10.42 | Shirik | ~dict blit |
| 01:10.55 | DARKGuy | Incorrect! |
| 01:10.56 | Shirik | ... |
| 01:11.06 | DARKGuy | purl, go watch Inventing Swear Words 1 to 4 |
| 01:11.15 | DARKGuy | on youtube. |
| 01:11.23 | Shirik | oh right |
| 01:11.30 | DARKGuy | haha XD |
| 01:14.20 | Cide | you know |
| 01:14.25 | Shirik | yes, yes I do |
| 01:14.26 | Cide | a python bot would be awesome |
| 01:14.27 | Shirik | I know everything |
| 01:14.39 | Cide | sadly, sandboxing it would be like 10x more difficult |
| 01:14.48 | Shirik | python is an awesome language |
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| 01:14.50 | Shirik | do you know why? |
| 01:14.52 | Cide | unless you __import__ = None |
| 01:14.56 | Cide | yes |
| 01:14.59 | Shirik | because it knows the correct response to sqrt(-1) |
| 01:15.02 | Cide | but not because it has j |
| 01:15.08 | Cide | I knew you were gonna say that :P |
| 01:15.10 | Shirik | it is totally because of j |
| 01:15.22 | Cide | the 'jmaginary unit'? |
| 01:15.23 | Cide | epic fail |
| 01:15.39 | Shirik | oh yeah because 2.717 totally looks like an "e" |
| 01:16.04 | DARKGuy | haha |
| 01:16.06 | Shirik | and let's not forget, a really really huge number is just a sideways 8 |
| 01:16.09 | JoshBorke | there's nothing wrong with pinging shirik |
| 01:16.17 | Cide | no, but 'e' doesn't have another name :P |
| 01:16.17 | JoshBorke | don't talk about j like that! |
| 01:16.26 | Shirik | sure it does |
| 01:16.35 | Cide | the natural number? |
| 01:16.41 | Shirik | the summation of 1/n! as n moves through 1 to infinity |
| 01:16.46 | JoshBorke | it's the transcendental number! |
| 01:16.50 | Cide | oh |
| 01:16.53 | Cide | I'm stupid |
| 01:17.04 | Cide | I'm tired |
| 01:17.39 | Shirik | it's also the base of the natural logarithm Cide |
| 01:17.41 | Cide | Shirik: that's not a name, that's the description of the taylor series for e^1 :P |
| 01:18.08 | Cide | Lopeppeppy: thanks, but I can't go to sleep yet :/ |
| 01:18.17 | Lopeppeppy | Why not, Cide-dear? |
| 01:18.23 | ScytheBlade1 | I've heard about this before, but hadn't seen screenshots of it in action: http://www.net-security.org/malware_news.php?id=945 |
| 01:18.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Viruses encrypting your files and making you buy a piece of software to decrypt it with |
| 01:18.53 | Shirik | lol |
| 01:18.57 | Shirik | "To recovery your files..." |
| 01:19.01 | Cide | Lopeppeppy: my girlfriend needs to come home first |
| 01:19.13 | Cide | not that I can do much from here, since she's in another city, but still |
| 01:19.24 | ScytheBlade1 | They don't need good grammar, just a proper private key ;) |
| 01:19.29 | Cide | Shirik: anyway, we should look up what was in use first -- i or j |
| 01:19.35 | Shirik | I'm sure "i" was |
| 01:19.36 | Lopeppeppy | Cide: *much comforts* |
| 01:19.41 | Shirik | but "i" is stupid |
| 01:19.42 | Cide | me too! |
| 01:19.47 | Cide | why is it stupid? |
| 01:19.50 | Shirik | because |
| 01:19.53 | Shirik | then I start writing things like |
| 01:19.59 | Shirik | i(t) = e^i*theta |
| 01:20.02 | Shirik | wtf |
| 01:20.09 | Cide | not my fault you picked i for current |
| 01:20.20 | Shirik | it's not like there's 25 other letters |
| 01:20.36 | Shirik | all the other ones were taken |
| 01:20.43 | Cide | use I then :) |
| 01:20.52 | Shirik | I is instantaneous current |
| 01:20.54 | Cide | granted, that's commonly used for values that don't vary over time |
| 01:20.58 | Cide | ya |
| 01:21.25 | Shirik | plus |
| 01:21.32 | Cide | Shirik: if all the other ones were taken, then 'j' is also taken! |
| 01:21.33 | Shirik | what if I started writing z = 1/iRC |
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| 01:21.39 | Shirik | wtf is that supposed to mean |
| 01:21.52 | Shirik | impedence depends on current? no.... |
| 01:22.04 | Cide | z is the inverse of internet relay chat? I dunno! |
| 01:22.10 | Shirik | omg no >< |
| 01:22.15 | Shirik | that's impedence of a capacitor >< |
| 01:22.41 | Cide | what's it currently? z = 1/jRC? |
| 01:23.00 | Shirik | sory, z = 1/jwC |
| 01:23.06 | Shirik | thinking too hard |
| 01:24.10 | Cide | meh, not mathematics' fault that physics picked bad symbols :P |
| 01:24.55 | Shirik | not my fault either |
| 01:24.58 | Shirik | but I ain't gonna change it :P |
| 01:25.13 | Shirik | besides, python agrees with it, it must obviously be right |
| 01:25.52 | Cide | only because it's not real mathematics.. if it would be, it would use the real symbol! |
| 01:26.05 | Shirik | no, it's imaginary |
| 01:26.07 | Shirik | duh |
| 01:26.10 | Cide | lol |
| 01:26.11 | Cide | my bad :) |
| 01:26.23 | Cide | that would be nice |
| 01:26.34 | Cide | all numbers in computers are represented as a matrix of bits |
| 01:26.39 | Shirik | matlab supports both |
| 01:26.47 | Cide | 'i' and 'j'? |
| 01:26.51 | Shirik | yup |
| 01:26.58 | Cide | /shrug |
| 01:27.08 | Shirik | and something else too |
| 01:27.11 | Cide | python is a great language regardless |
| 01:28.16 | Cide | but hard to sandbox through software |
| 01:28.16 | chewsocks | is there any addon that lets me move stuff around and keep it there, like the quest frame? |
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| 01:29.05 | bleeter | quite a few, fluidframes is one that springs to my mind |
| 01:29.06 | DARKGuy | there was, now there isn't |
| 01:29.07 | DARKGuy | :( |
| 01:29.30 | Cide | In electrical engineering and related fields, the imaginary unit is often written as j\, to avoid confusion with electrical current as a function of time, traditionally denoted by i(t)\, or just i.\, The Python programming language also uses j to denote the imaginary unit, while in Matlab, both notations i and j are associated with the imaginary unit. |
| 01:29.37 | Cide | says wikipedia |
| 01:30.54 | DARKGuy | haha |
| 01:31.10 | Cide | Shirik: you clearly DO know everything |
| 01:31.34 | Shirik | For the record, I really didn't read that from wikipedia, lol. I just knew that because we use matlab a lot because it does some strange plots well :) |
| 01:31.40 | Shirik | like pole-zero plots |
| 01:31.57 | Cide | but since 'j' is stupid, we can conclude that electrical engineering is stupid, and by extension that Shirik is stupid |
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| 01:32.20 | Cide | bastard! |
| 01:32.24 | Shirik | <3 |
| 01:32.26 | Cide | <3 |
| 01:32.55 | JoshBorke | cide: you aer a bastard! |
| 01:33.05 | JoshBorke | oh wait, i'm not EE |
| 01:33.23 | Shirik | that's ok, I'm the owner of a $600 multimeter, and I'm proud of it |
| 01:34.03 | Cide | yeah |
| 01:34.10 | Cide | that's pretty sad |
| 01:34.34 | Shirik | next step is to buy a scope |
| 01:34.40 | |Jelly| | [20:33]<Cide>that's pretty sad <<< |
| 01:34.42 | Shirik | after that, I don't know what |
| 01:35.02 | Cide | Shirik: I'm so good, I don't need a multimeter |
| 01:35.10 | Shirik | yeah you just stick a fork into the outlet |
| 01:35.11 | Shirik | yeah? |
| 01:35.15 | Shirik | if you're alive, it's not working |
| 01:35.19 | Cide | nope |
| 01:35.31 | Cide | your voltage is 0, for instance |
| 01:35.39 | Shirik | though it should be pointed out that a correctly wired house shouldn't have an issue with you sticking a fork in the outlet |
| 01:35.40 | bleeter | why waste a fork? use yer tongue |
| 01:36.14 | Shirik | Cide: That's probably not true :) |
| 01:36.24 | Cide | it is -- [your] resistance is futile |
| 01:36.28 | Shirik | besides, saying something has X voltage doesn't really have much meaning unless you have a reference point |
| 01:36.41 | Cide | is it bad that I laughed out loud? I'm pretty tired |
| 01:36.55 | Shirik | I have a shirt like that :) |
| 01:36.58 | Shirik | two actually |
| 01:37.01 | Cide | yeah, it's not really a new joke :/ |
| 01:37.06 | Shirik | <3 Cide |
| 01:37.21 | Cide | we need a ~failcide of some kind |
| 01:37.32 | Shirik | this is where JoshBorke goes ~failrik |
| 01:37.38 | Cide | ~factinfo failrik |
| 01:37.39 | purl | failrik -- created by Cide <n=Cide@hus110a.bobbnet.com> at Mon Mar 17 17:36:58 2008 (80 days); it has been requested 63 times, last by JoshBorke, 29m 48s ago. |
| 01:37.48 | JoshBorke | ~failrik |
| 01:37.49 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 01:37.51 | Shirik | is it sad that that's been used as much as ~asktoask? |
| 01:37.55 | Shirik | ~factinfo asktoask |
| 01:37.55 | purl | asktoask -- created by Shirik <i=nospam@24.229.63.42.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net> at Wed Jul 18 00:33:40 2007 (324 days); it has been requested 337 times, last by pastamancer, 1d 11h 25m 25s ago. |
| 01:37.57 | JoshBorke | sorry, not paying attention |
| 01:38.00 | Shirik | eh, not quite as much |
| 01:38.29 | Shirik | but if we go by daily rate |
| 01:38.34 | Shirik | >>> 337 / 324 |
| 01:38.40 | Cide | I disabled my bot |
| 01:38.45 | Shirik | --> 337 / 324 |
| 01:38.45 | batbot | Shirik: > 1.0401234567901 |
| 01:38.45 | Cide | temporarily |
| 01:38.48 | Shirik | --> 63 / 80 |
| 01:38.49 | batbot | Shirik: > 0.7875 |
| 01:38.52 | Shirik | that's pretty close |
| 01:39.02 | Cide | clearly we need to lower our fail threshold |
| 01:50.54 | bleeter | hmmm, anyone here use Godaddy for bulk emailing and the like? Just curious if anyone knows if they operate greylisting |
| 01:51.38 | bleeter | there is a wow related question to this, and that is some people don't receive emails from blizz, some receive account admin mails but not gm mails, and the like, and i'm trying to conceive of reasons why (beyond the usual spam filters programs have built in) |
| 01:52.07 | bleeter | seems a number of these 'problematic' folks use godaddy, and I seem to recall some folks in here used them for their websites... hence my question |
| 01:57.52 | Lopeppeppy | When in doubt, don't use them. |
| 01:58.34 | |Jelly| | When in doubt, unload the magazine! |
| 01:58.50 | bleeter | I'm not using them, trying to diagnose stuff that's 'beaten' anyone else who's ever looked into it ;) |
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| 02:02.17 | MentalPower | bleeter: all I use godaddy for is just as a registrar |
| 02:03.03 | ScytheBlade1 | I was on godaddy. Then I realized that there are other places who will give me a domain without trying to force 2093489 'features' down my throat every time I add one. |
| 02:07.08 | Shirik | linode + dyndns is nice |
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| 03:04.41 | Shirik | you know what's the best part about being paid tomorrow |
| 03:04.53 | Shirik | the knowledge that you just put the check you got two weeks ago in the bank two days ago |
| 03:04.59 | Shirik | so you're going to have a ton of money ^_^ |
| 03:05.03 | kd3 | lol |
| 03:05.05 | Nom- | Talk about blacklisting gone crazy... some blacklist called rfc-ignorant.org has blacklisted the entire .au 2LD |
| 03:05.08 | kd3 | direct deposit++ |
| 03:05.14 | Nom- | The stupid part is, it's listed because the whois records don't return addresses etc... something they're not allowed to due to Australian legislation changes |
| 03:05.24 | Shirik | I didn't feel like setting that up because it would take 2 pay periods anyway, and I'm only working there for 3 |
| 03:05.24 | Shirik | lol |
| 03:05.28 | bleeter | Nom-: hahaha |
| 03:06.16 | Nom- | So damned if they do, damned if they don't |
| 03:07.40 | bleeter | Nom-: should we set up 'not-ignorant-of-au-laws-rfc-ignorant.org' and just mirror their stuff without the .au block hehe |
| 03:08.10 | bleeter | Shirik: best bit of your pay day is when you give me all your stuffs |
| 03:08.28 | Nom- | It's tempting... lol |
| 03:08.37 | Nom- | Thankfully not many places seem to use that blacklist |
| 03:08.49 | Nom- | But there's one site which came up .. all mail is being bounced from said domain |
| 03:09.00 | Nom- | From *all* .au email addresses |
| 03:09.13 | Nom- | So we can't even contact the domain admins to tell them their domain is broken |
| 03:18.39 | MentalPower | Nom-: use gmail? |
| 03:19.07 | MentalPower | or some non-.au email really |
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| 03:48.08 | Duman | *grumble* |
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| 03:53.50 | bleeter | Shirik: who do I bribe to get +v here? :P |
| 03:53.57 | Shirik | ChanServ |
| 03:54.06 | bleeter | ewww dirty |
| 03:55.42 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: be on 'staff' of a related site |
| 03:55.55 | bleeter | ... |
| 03:56.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Or a forum MVP |
| 03:56.19 | ScytheBlade1 | (They cheat) |
| 03:56.32 | bleeter | only reason i ain't changed my mask yet is 'coz... it's the original # I got ops in here on |
| 03:56.51 | bleeter | not that it worries me, just amuses me |
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| 04:11.52 | Duman | blargh |
| 04:11.58 | bleeter | rarargh |
| 04:12.24 | Duman | wtf is sixen when I need him |
| 04:15.59 | Wobin | Is sixen not sixen when you need him? |
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| 04:24.37 | bleeter | Wobin: we shouldn't have said anything, should we (re: convo in other #) |
| 04:24.49 | Wobin | probably not |
| 04:27.39 | Seerah | don't worry about it. we wouldn't let him talk about it in here the other day, either :) |
| 04:29.58 | bleeter | haha |
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| 04:32.50 | Wobin | woo! |
| 04:32.56 | Wobin | My new keyboard has been delivered at home! |
| 04:33.01 | DARKGuy | yay |
| 04:33.21 | Dashkal | Grats :) |
| 04:33.34 | Wobin | go go clicky keyboard =) |
| 04:33.42 | DARKGuy | which model :o? |
| 04:33.54 | Wobin | http://store.yahoo.com/pckeyboards/customizer.html |
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| 04:35.07 | DARKGuy | It's... generic :p |
| 04:36.28 | Wobin | yes. |
| 04:36.33 | Wobin | but it has buckling spring keys |
| 04:36.39 | Wobin | which is why I want it |
| 04:36.54 | Wobin | I don't need the whole G14 etc junk |
| 04:36.59 | Wobin | or G15? |
| 04:37.04 | Wobin | "Stuff" |
| 04:37.06 | DARKGuy | G15 is pretty |
| 04:37.14 | DARKGuy | Though I'd use a wireless keyboard more |
| 04:37.24 | Wobin | Nah, wireless leads to trouble |
| 04:37.42 | Wobin | it will -always- run out of battery when you least need it |
| 04:37.43 | DARKGuy | why? |
| 04:37.47 | DARKGuy | heh xD |
| 04:37.49 | Wobin | to |
| 04:38.04 | Wobin | although that wireless mouse with the inductive charging mousepad is kinda cool |
| 04:38.20 | Wobin | probably as long as you don't wear a digital watch on your mouse hand =P |
| 04:38.35 | DARKGuy | haha XD |
| 04:39.08 | DARKGuy | I need one with long range, batteries won't be a problem for me o_o |
| 04:39.20 | DARKGuy | if they can work when I replace the batteries, cool |
| 04:39.26 | DARKGuy | s/when/after/ |
| 04:39.58 | DARKGuy | I mean, with the PC on |
| 04:40.03 | Thunder_Child | i want to try saiteks cyborg keyboard |
| 04:40.32 | Thunder_Child | i have a g15, but..meh |
| 04:40.58 | DARKGuy | who needs keyboard when you can have the brain mouse o_o |
| 04:41.00 | Dashkal | I really need to start making use of the g keys to bring up straings addon dialogs and such |
| 04:41.49 | Thunder_Child | ya, i'm to lazy to program my g keys |
| 04:41.59 | Dashkal | same :p |
| 04:42.54 | bleeter | I'm just using the it'sg15binder addon from wowinterface, nothing fancy programming keys there |
| 04:43.04 | bleeter | real neat stuff that addon is |
| 04:43.06 | Thunder_Child | i could prolly make a good keyboard for lazy gamers |
| 04:43.19 | Wobin | I'd like to try that brainmouse |
| 04:43.28 | DARKGuy | me too, it's da new shiz |
| 04:43.57 | DARKGuy | finally it won't matter if you have a ballmouse or an IR one |
| 04:44.16 | DARKGuy | it'd suck if you're drunk tho xD |
| 04:44.44 | Thunder_Child | no way...i could just see you trying to play an fps or something, jerking your head to the side/front/etc. you look like a retard |
| 04:44.49 | Wobin | not as if you could precision mouse while drunk though =P |
| 04:45.18 | DARKGuy | hahaha |
| 04:45.18 | DARKGuy | true =p |
| 04:45.26 | DARKGuy | we had a guildmate playing while drunk, he totally left when we were killing levi... it was ovbiously a wipe, he was the best priest of the group :P |
| 04:45.37 | Thunder_Child | watch people play with controllers...they move them even though it does nothing (wii not included) |
| 04:45.54 | DARKGuy | Yeah, that's retarded o_o |
| 04:46.23 | DARKGuy | but it's more retarded than moving your head :P |
| 04:47.06 | Dashkal | heh, I always physically dodge when stuff comes at me unexpectedly :p |
| 04:47.09 | Thunder_Child | maybe....you never saw someone looking like a death metal reject with a controller |
| 04:48.51 | DARKGuy | XD |
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| 05:09.18 | Tekkub | http://www.digital-digest.com/news-61173.html |
| 05:09.20 | Tekkub | lawl |
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| 05:10.37 | DARKGuy | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:10.57 | widgertick | =O |
| 05:11.29 | DARKGuy | PC with über videocard ftw |
| 05:17.26 | Tekkub | http://denver.craigslist.org/eng/709288016.html |
| 05:17.32 | Tekkub | what the hell are they talking about |
| 05:17.54 | Tekkub | all I got out of that was "we want to make a myspace clone" |
| 05:19.24 | DARKGuy | YouOS as internet technology? |
| 05:19.25 | DARKGuy | wtf |
| 05:19.33 | DARKGuy | LAMP has MySQL already |
| 05:19.50 | DARKGuy | who needs SQLite when you have MySQL |
| 05:19.53 | DARKGuy | that dude is insane |
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| 05:20.28 | widgertick | Dude, his e-mail address is at gmail.com. If you have millions of dollars worth of investment, you can afford a domain. |
| 05:21.55 | DARKGuy | haha that too |
| 05:22.53 | widgertick | I mean, if you live in your mom's basement, you can probably afford a domain. |
| 05:23.22 | Thunder_Child | which domain is yours then widgertick? |
| 05:24.04 | widgertick | deathtocogs.com :P |
| 05:24.25 | DARKGuy | haha |
| 05:24.31 | Thunder_Child | nice |
| 05:24.32 | DARKGuy | you sure love cog :P |
| 05:24.44 | Thunder_Child | love to kill them that is |
| 05:24.52 | widgertick | Survival of the fittest IMHO |
| 05:24.56 | DARKGuy | xD |
| 05:25.19 | Wobin | as for that PS3 article |
| 05:25.23 | Wobin | I saw that yesterday |
| 05:25.28 | Wobin | but it has no corroboration |
| 05:25.34 | Wobin | I wanted to post "CITATION NEEED" |
| 05:25.40 | Tekkub | yea that site never links their source |
| 05:25.57 | Tekkub | it's really shitty, but the good bits like that are why I keep reading it |
| 05:26.00 | Wobin | And 'reality' series? |
| 05:26.08 | Tekkub | yea I know, WTF? |
| 05:26.18 | Wobin | advertising on CRAIGSLIST?" |
| 05:26.18 | Tekkub | infomercials aren't reality! |
| 05:26.56 | Wobin | 'tremendous potential' |
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| 05:27.04 | Wobin | read: I hope we don't crash |
| 05:28.43 | Thunder_Child | do any iphone apps actually install on the phone or are they all web based? |
| 05:31.29 | Guillotine | Anybody played with the user-created google apps thing? Can't figure out how to get it to run a script on GET instead of POST |
| 05:32.42 | Tekkub | iphones don't do 3rd party apps... yet |
| 05:33.00 | Thunder_Child | Tekkub, even jailbroken? |
| 05:33.16 | Tekkub | you can get them to, yes, but not officially |
| 05:33.26 | Tekkub | tho they claim you can soon |
| 05:33.33 | Thunder_Child | ok, so any official app is all web based? |
| 05:33.36 | Wobin | yeah |
| 05:33.41 | Tekkub | like, when google becomes competition probably |
| 05:33.50 | Wobin | all apps that are run on the phone itself are only for jailbroken ones |
| 05:33.51 | Thunder_Child | ok, thanks |
| 05:34.11 | Wobin | I haven't bothered jailbreaking my iTouch for ages now |
| 05:34.13 | Tekkub | there's lots of iPhone-styled webpages |
| 05:34.21 | Tekkub | they work wonderfully in Firefox's sidebar |
| 05:34.38 | Tekkub | unless they work only off the browser useragent, like fucking gmail |
| 05:34.47 | bleeter | MOAR KOFFEEEEE |
| 05:35.11 | Tekkub | hey wodbin, does the itouch do random-by-album like the iPuds? |
| 05:35.15 | Thunder_Child | if AT&T eats half the iphone v2 i'll prolly pick it up |
| 05:35.29 | Wobin | in which you play a random album in it's entirety? |
| 05:35.32 | Thunder_Child | s/v2/v2 price/ |
| 05:37.19 | Wobin | appears not |
| 05:37.24 | Wobin | you can random 'All songs' |
| 05:37.29 | Tekkub | bah |
| 05:37.30 | Wobin | but not on an album level |
| 05:37.45 | Tekkub | I'd rather get the 80 GB normal at that price anyway |
| 05:38.11 | Tekkub | but then, I don't know why I keep thinking I should get one, I already have all my music stored on the server |
| 05:38.13 | Wobin | Most of my iTouch is all video now |
| 05:39.01 | Wobin | I have 80 podcast videos =P |
| 05:39.06 | Wobin | most of which is AskAninja |
| 05:39.19 | Thunder_Child | Guillotine? |
| 05:39.47 | Wobin | Guillotine is a ninja? |
| 05:39.52 | Guillotine | of course |
| 05:39.55 | DARKGuy | haha |
| 05:40.08 | Thunder_Child | PM |
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| 05:41.00 | Tekkub | I heard Guillotine runs a glider bot that kills kittens |
| 05:41.16 | DARKGuy | Fun |
| 05:41.21 | Tekkub | noone ever told him the crazy cat lady's cats in Elwynn don't give EXP |
| 05:41.27 | DARKGuy | WoW has more rabbits and squirrels than kittens though |
| 05:41.30 | Guillotine | not just kittens |
| 05:41.32 | DARKGuy | XD |
| 05:41.35 | Guillotine | it grinds critters |
| 05:41.37 | Guillotine | and skins them |
| 05:41.48 | Tekkub | Guill poly's sheep |
| 05:41.49 | Guillotine | thats how I get my mats for LW |
| 05:42.19 | Sixen_ | ~lastseen duman |
| 05:42.21 | DARKGuy | lol |
| 05:42.30 | Thunder_Child | try ~seen |
| 05:42.36 | Sixen_ | =[ |
| 05:42.38 | Sixen_ | ~seen duman |
| 05:42.40 | purl | duman is currently on #wowuidev (5d 12h 39m 56s). Has said a total of 21 messages. Is idling for 1h 30m 16s, last said: 'wtf is sixen when I need him'. |
| 05:42.48 | Sixen_ | lol! |
| 05:42.51 | Tekkub | ~seen dick |
| 05:42.52 | purl | dick <n=dick@74-129-222-12.dhcp.insightbb.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 106d 4h 41m 39s ago, saying: 'I hate this name.'. |
| 05:43.04 | Thunder_Child | 106 days huh |
| 05:43.05 | Tekkub | oh that's classic |
| 05:43.15 | Thunder_Child | ~seen god |
| 05:43.15 | purl | god <n=rawsonat@c-71-56-134-63.hsd1.or.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 335d 9h 38m 33s ago, saying: 'Damnit, another dropped call. I really need to switch to HeavenServe.'. |
| 05:43.18 | |Jelly| | ~seen jelly |
| 05:43.19 | purl | jelly is currently on #debian (1d 3m 58s). Has said a total of 34 messages. Is idling for 12h 59m 55s, last said: 'mot_: uswsusp'. |
| 05:53.11 | Wobin | http://www.gskinner.com/blog/archives/2008/05/cut_by_the_wind.html |
| 05:54.42 | Thunder_Child | huh...cpu intensive but only ~5kb, not bad |
| 05:55.17 | Wobin | as concept art, it's pretty impressive |
| 06:07.24 | bleeter | haha my brother's just wiped 40 HD's at his new job, and the boss is apparently all 'meh, our previous backups were pretty poor and they were general scratch disks for the students anyway... so.. don't fret' |
| 06:07.35 | bleeter | and all the students are running around 'wtf my essay aargh' |
| 06:08.04 | bleeter | *accidentally wiped due to a syntax error |
| 06:08.21 | DARKGuy | haha |
| 06:10.18 | bleeter | best bit's my brother's all 'teach you to keep personal backups of your own personal important files, moron' and his boss is backing him |
| 06:10.46 | bleeter | they're currently discussing better backup/cleaning procedures when the drives are all back online hehe |
| 06:11.45 | nevcairiel | haha awesome |
| 06:12.39 | DARKGuy | XD |
| 06:12.47 | DARKGuy | fun haha, I had to pass through that |
| 06:12.49 | DARKGuy | damn backup schedules |
| 06:16.11 | Sixen_ | Oh, hahaha. |
| 06:16.14 | Sixen_ | Duman, you still here? |
| 06:17.00 | Wobin | I bet he isn't |
| 06:17.06 | Wobin | he'll only come around when you're afk |
| 06:17.07 | Sixen_ | Of course, :(. |
| 06:17.09 | Sixen_ | Yeah, lol. |
| 06:18.48 | Wobin | mmm |
| 06:18.51 | Wobin | apple raspberry crumble |
| 06:18.54 | Wobin | with custard base |
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| 06:23.35 | bleeter | Wobin: gief |
| 06:24.44 | Wobin | I made you an apple raspberry crumble with custard base |
| 06:24.48 | Wobin | but I ated it |
| 06:24.53 | Wobin | =( |
| 06:27.16 | bleeter | bastage |
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| 06:32.13 | Sixen_ | Kd3 |
| 06:32.16 | Sixen_ | ~summon kd3 |
| 06:32.17 | purl | apt takes out 20 clean, identical-looking phones, some extra hands, and pretends to be a telemarketer for a large corporation, so he gets delivered a phonelist containing kd3's coordinates |
| 06:32.17 | Sixen_ | ;) |
| 06:32.26 | Sixen_ | Rofl. I didn't know that would work. |
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| 06:36.39 | Thunder_Child | is that a pun on GET? |
| 06:39.17 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Fisker- |
| 06:39.17 | purl | takes out a cattle prod and gives Fisker- a good jolt |
| 06:39.23 | Thunder_Child | what, that was a valid question |
| 06:40.22 | Thunder_Child | *cough* your repeating yourself |
| 06:42.27 | nevcairiel | not that he cares about anything you say, he just slaps you =P |
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| 06:46.32 | Thunder_Child | true nevcairiel, but the net is NOT supposed to be old and boring |
| 06:46.37 | Thunder_Child | like Fisker- |
| 06:47.03 | Wobin | psst |
| 06:47.05 | Wobin | "You're" |
| 06:47.31 | Thunder_Child | ty cogwh...err...wobin |
| 06:47.44 | nevcairiel | how did that happen? |
| 06:48.10 | Wobin | why is it, all my friends who play gnomes are always over 6'? |
| 06:48.23 | Fisker- | they like cp |
| 06:48.26 | Thunder_Child | because cog always corrected my "You're" |
| 06:48.36 | Fisker- | your mother Thunder_Child |
| 06:48.37 | Wobin | Fisker-: get in the van =P |
| 06:48.50 | Thunder_Child | not really Fisker- |
| 06:48.53 | nevcairiel | i'm 6'5 and i play a nightelf =P |
| 06:48.58 | Wobin | freak |
| 06:49.02 | Wobin | clearly =P |
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| 06:50.12 | Fisker- | i want you Wobin |
| 06:50.59 | Wobin | You'll have to get in line like everyone else |
| 06:51.12 | Thunder_Child | you have a queue? |
| 06:51.30 | Wobin | Well I didn't get this popular without -some- organisation |
| 06:51.56 | nevcairiel | wob is our favorite aussie, of course he needs a queue |
| 06:52.08 | Thunder_Child | your right, the organisation of money |
| 06:55.11 | Fisker- | oh well |
| 06:55.14 | Fisker- | i'll settle for nevcairiel |
| 06:55.26 | nevcairiel | bring it on! |
| 06:55.40 | nevcairiel | but actually, i have to leave for assembler class, wait here |
| 06:55.48 | Fisker- | your knife is no match for my hax |
| 06:55.51 | Thunder_Child | lets not comment on what you would actually settle for Fisker- |
| 06:56.00 | nevcairiel | anything, imho |
| 07:07.18 | Fisker- | you can't stop me Thunder_Child |
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| 07:12.45 | Fisker- | I AM THE GREETEST |
| 07:16.12 | Thunder_Child | yes Fisker-, i can stop you |
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| 07:19.00 | Fisker- | how? :( |
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| 07:25.48 | Thunder_Child | have Cairenn do it and have her say it came from me |
| 07:25.55 | Cairenn | hmmm? |
| 07:26.06 | Cairenn | ah |
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| 07:26.10 | Thunder_Child | SMITE THEE FISKER!!! |
| 07:26.27 | Cairenn | where's my tribute? |
| 07:26.52 | Thunder_Child | ok, i can go with that, what would you like? |
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| 07:27.57 | Cairenn | that would have been a lot more impressive if I'd done it right :p |
| 07:28.07 | Thunder_Child | what went wrong? |
| 07:28.19 | Cairenn | heh, nothing |
| 07:28.24 | Cairenn | just laughing at myself :) |
| 07:28.33 | Thunder_Child | share the joke so we all can |
| 07:28.42 | Cairenn | naw, it's okay |
| 07:28.46 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 07:28.47 | Thunder_Child | party pooper |
| 07:29.15 | Thunder_Child | and Fisker-, you had nothing to do with it |
| 07:31.08 | Fisker- | ? |
| 07:32.35 | Thunder_Child | "00:28.15 Fisker- destroys Thunder_Child" |
| 07:33.08 | Fisker- | i disagree |
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| 07:52.03 | bleeter | foarumz gowz boom agun? |
| 07:52.08 | bleeter | *blizz |
| 07:52.10 | bleeter | bah |
| 07:52.20 | bleeter | ... I've been spending too much time talking stupid in RP |
| 07:52.25 | bleeter | have the blizz forums exploded again? |
| 07:54.03 | Cairenn | they (and in fact the entire site) have been more down than up today |
| 07:56.34 | bleeter | ooh, hai Cairenn |
| 07:56.38 | bleeter | yeah |
| 07:56.43 | Cairenn | hai 2 u 2! |
| 07:57.08 | bleeter | some parts of account admin work, others don't and stuff... kinda makes me think this was completely unscheduled downtime |
| 07:57.17 | Cairenn | so sad, it took longer for me to type that than if I had typed it out properly |
| 07:57.26 | bleeter | lol |
| 07:57.36 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 07:57.39 | bleeter | as well as comfort |
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| 07:59.10 | Cairenn | heh |
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| 08:03.03 | zespri | is there a way to search in ah for an exact term? |
| 08:03.46 | zespri | so when you search for healing potion you don't get minor an major and all other kinds of healing potion? |
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| 08:10.59 | bleeter | not that I'm aware of from the default UI, you could use Auctioneer Advanced's search for an exact match |
| 08:17.08 | Duman | sigh |
| 08:18.17 | Sixen_ | =] |
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| 08:19.56 | bleeter | hmmm |
| 08:22.43 | zespri | cheers |
| 09:23.58 | bleeter | oO anyone else able to /inspect yerself, and notice anything odd on the talent page (might just be a local error here) |
| 09:25.14 | bleeter | hmm, not seing pvp info here either, just char stuff |
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| 09:35.13 | Guillotine | Just spent an hour developing stuff on the local development server for google's "appspot", but now it won't work on google's servers |
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| 09:37.51 | Wobin | hurrah |
| 09:37.53 | Wobin | long weekend |
| 09:37.57 | Wobin | hm |
| 09:38.04 | Wobin | this keyboard is actually helping me type faster |
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| 09:38.09 | Wobin | it's really really weird |
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| 09:38.14 | Wobin | in that it shouldn't but it actually is |
| 09:38.23 | Wobin | I'm typing a whole lot more accurately too |
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| 09:45.00 | bleeter | aargh he's multiplying!!! FLEEE! |
| 09:45.58 | _rane | is there an addon that shows party members' debuff durations? |
| 09:53.57 | durcyn | not really, _rane, and you'd have to sync due to talents and item bonuses affecting durations |
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| 10:43.32 | _rane | durcyn: yeah but if i wanted to only track certain debuffs |
| 10:43.41 | _rane | durcyn: like hamstring, which i believe has constant duration |
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| 10:46.41 | [dRaCo] | it's constant if it wasn't for the talents |
| 10:47.01 | [dRaCo] | e.g. shamans got a talent that reduces snare duration by x% |
| 10:55.24 | _rane | :/ |
| 10:55.37 | _rane | so i would probably have to do it individually |
| 10:56.32 | _rane | i'd just like to see hamstring and mortal strike durations of my arena teammate |
| 10:57.28 | [dRaCo] | if you want it to be precise that'd require syncing |
| 10:57.54 | _rane | tracking AURA_APPLIED events wouldn't be enough? |
| 10:58.12 | [dRaCo] | since you don't know the modifiers, no |
| 10:58.27 | [dRaCo] | should work for classes without such talents, though |
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| 12:59.07 | Lunessa | ... station! |
| 12:59.53 | bleeter | oO |
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| 13:02.10 | Wobin | ...station? |
| 13:02.35 | Kalroth | mastur...? |
| 13:03.03 | bleeter | yes boss! |
| 13:03.45 | bleeter | Wobin: you been stealing blizz's intarwebz again? :( |
| 13:04.09 | Lunessa | http://xkcd.com/ - |
| 13:04.57 | Lunessa | Kalroth: For the origin of "station" see: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101452/ |
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| 13:21.13 | chewsocks | I installed questhelper but I can't get it to show anything |
| 13:26.00 | chewsocks | I tried checking hidden and filter but the quests aren't hidden |
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| 13:32.00 | DARKGuy | mornin' :D |
| 13:33.05 | chewsocks | does anyone know how to work questhelper? |
| 13:33.27 | bleeter | chewsocks: not I, sorry |
| 13:33.36 | bleeter | DARKGuy: g'day |
| 13:33.46 | DARKGuy | hey bleeter :) |
| 13:33.49 | DARKGuy | chewsocks: what about it? |
| 13:33.58 | Fisker- | i'll destroy you bleeter |
| 13:34.02 | DARKGuy | haha |
| 13:34.26 | bleeter | kd3: I bit the bullet, installing F9 atm |
| 13:34.36 | chewsocks | DARKGuy: i installed it but it shows nothing at all, /qh works /qh hidden doesn't show anything |
| 13:35.04 | DARKGuy | chewsocks: it shouldn't show anything. I've never used the slash commands, I just install it and it automatically shows quest paths and info on te world map |
| 13:35.20 | DARKGuy | *the |
| 13:36.07 | chewsocks | yea I dont see any of that |
| 13:36.19 | DARKGuy | try deleting and downloading it from wowinterface.com |
| 13:36.30 | DARKGuy | at least a guildmate had tha problem and I told him to reinstall it and it worked |
| 13:36.42 | DARKGuy | try having the "Load Out of date AddOns" checkbox enabled |
| 13:38.17 | bleeter | if I read someone else's comment correctly earlier today, QH uses some out of date library from elsewhere that (as it's out of date) interacts badly (although it shouldn't) with Gatherer. If you have Gatherer, you may like to try disabling it |
| 13:38.18 | chewsocks | its loaded cause /qh and /qh hidden works |
| 13:38.25 | chewsocks | it just isn't showing anything on the map or waypoints |
| 13:38.28 | bleeter | that's the only thing I can think of, now I think of it |
| 13:38.48 | chewsocks | i use gathermate is that the same? |
| 13:41.28 | chewsocks | ok this works just the 2 versions i tried from curse don't work |
| 13:41.31 | bleeter | not that i'm aware of |
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| 13:51.59 | DARKGuy | chewsocks: you gotta have active quests going on, AFAIK |
| 13:52.26 | DARKGuy | or maybe you're in a zone with no nearby quests nearby |
| 13:52.46 | nevcairiel | recursive recursion is recursive? |
| 13:53.25 | SunTiger | to understand recursion one must first understand recursion. |
| 13:53.59 | Fisker- | i see what you did there |
| 13:54.04 | Fisker- | (actually i didn't oh nos :() |
| 13:55.19 | Shirik | this is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=2617687&SiteID=1 |
| 13:55.33 | Shirik | I have to modify the SDK to get it to work -_- |
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| 13:58.53 | Lunessa | "Recursive programming sucks." ~Bill Gates |
| 14:01.10 | Lunessa | .. facebook is evil |
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| 14:27.21 | Lunessa | Still no forums. This is going to be a long-ass day... |
| 14:28.11 | bleeter | they've been terribly intermittent |
| 14:28.30 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa. I'll keep you amused! |
| 14:28.31 | bleeter | read: occasionally up for long enough to get half a page |
| 14:28.48 | Lunessa | Schweeeet! |
| 14:29.57 | kd3 | damn it, wow.com! work |
| 14:30.57 | Lopeppeppy | at least the game is working, even if that doesn't help those stuck at work. |
| 14:35.23 | Lunessa | True dat. |
| 14:35.42 | bleeter | oddly enough, I seem to have no probs retrieving http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/new-hp/layout/layout.xsl |
| 14:36.21 | bleeter | oh hey, main site's kind of working for me.. ignore my last comment |
| 14:36.28 | bleeter | looks like shite tho |
| 14:36.54 | bleeter | oO eventually sorted itself out when all elements were downloaded, looks OK now |
| 14:39.54 | bleeter | raaar! managed to make a post to the forums hehe |
| 14:40.20 | Lopeppeppy | brat |
| 14:41.00 | bleeter | I got a 'in before connection timed out' post to the CSF OT thread hehe |
| 14:41.13 | kd3 | o_O; |
| 14:41.19 | kd3 | [Stupid] Not News: Woman upset over high gas prices News: So she lights a gas station on fire Fark: And a Starbucks, just for good measure |
| 14:42.02 | Lunessa | When the aliens land, they're going to be pissed because Starbuks is already here. |
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| 15:16.26 | Lopeppeppy | Rub it in, short stuff! |
| 15:17.09 | zenzelezz | you shouldn't start your sentences like that |
| 15:18.35 | Thunder_Child | why? thats not the correct phrase |
| 15:18.59 | zenzelezz | have you been away for too long or what? I always find a way to make things sound dirty |
| 15:19.22 | Thunder_Child | well, i remember you doing a better job |
| 15:19.30 | Thunder_Child | your getting sloppy |
| 15:19.37 | Thunder_Child | You're* |
| 15:19.42 | zenzelezz | yup |
| 15:19.52 | zenzelezz | but I think peppy still understood what I was aiming at |
| 15:20.03 | Thunder_Child | so did i, but thats not the point |
| 15:20.28 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz may also have been being gentle, I think my before-noon mood is well known. |
| 15:21.16 | bleeter | mmmm sloppy... rubbing stuff in... pointy stuff... all before noon |
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| 15:23.11 | Lopeppeppy | Bad bleeter. |
| 15:23.34 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy, your heart just doesnt seem to be in it. |
| 15:24.21 | zenzelezz | be kind, it must be tiring to have half of the non-lurkers trying to chat her up all the time |
| 15:24.30 | Lopeppeppy | Thunder_Child, it's before noon. My heart doesn't wake up until 1pm EST. |
| 15:25.10 | bleeter | you're just jealous 'coz I managed to post to the forums AND make an edit as well :P |
| 15:25.42 | Lopeppeppy | You're just jealous because I like zenzelezz better! |
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| 15:25.57 | Lunessa | .. station! |
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| 15:28.57 | bleeter | seriously, though... |
| 15:29.13 | bleeter | who the hell needs forums when you've got Maelstrom to pass the time with woohoo! |
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| 15:29.49 | Thunder_Child | isnt Maelstrom an arcade game? |
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| 15:31.53 | Fisker- | and slouken made it!111 |
| 15:32.38 | bleeter | well, ported by him at least |
| 15:33.42 | bleeter | it's the first thing I try to use to make sure my Linux's accellerated X is set up properly |
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| 15:36.59 | Valaron|Work | tgif |
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| 15:39.42 | cog|away | srsly |
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| 15:41.53 | bleeter | nowai |
| 15:42.16 | cog|away | ya rly |
| 15:42.40 | cog|away | so now i get to do even more packing... They're moving my desk up to the attic while some construction is going on.... |
| 15:43.31 | bleeter | Saturday |
| 15:43.33 | bleeter | nowai |
| 15:44.32 | cog|work | ha! i just found my paypal receipt for sending Cairenn to blizzcon last year >< |
| 15:44.48 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 15:44.54 | Fisker- | does your wife know about this? |
| 15:45.28 | bleeter | DA FOARUMZ R WERKZ! |
| 15:46.12 | bleeter | 'cept I broke it again by declaring they were working ;) |
| 15:46.27 | cog|work | Fisker-: she knows about *you*... |
| 15:46.47 | bleeter | whoa tmi |
| 15:46.52 | Fisker- | oh noes |
| 15:46.58 | Fisker- | does she approve? |
| 15:47.10 | Lunessa | ... zomg, Mrs. Cog is dangerously fun. |
| 15:47.25 | Lunessa | Unless she's on about butterflys. |
| 15:47.55 | Lunessa | And now for something completely different - http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/06/isp-spying-made.html |
| 15:48.34 | Cide | oh no, spy code! |
| 15:48.34 | cog|work | Fisker-: to the extent I do ;) |
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| 15:50.09 | Cide | haha, that's actually pretty funny |
| 15:50.12 | Cide | and clever |
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| 15:52.29 | Fisker- | man Lunessa |
| 15:52.34 | Fisker- | i hope there's some law here against it |
| 15:52.48 | AckisWork | where is here? |
| 15:52.57 | Fisker- | denmark |
| 15:53.34 | foxlit | Don't count on it |
| 15:53.45 | Thunder_Child | i wonder if noscript would block it |
| 15:53.52 | foxlit | TDC actually inserts tracking javascript for "anonymous statistics purposes" |
| 15:54.55 | Lunessa | This is one of those things (at least in the US of A) where the company is completely within their rights to invade your privacy. ISPs aren't exactly "common carriers" like telcos are. And the cable and telco industries have lobbied hard for years to basically keep laws from being made which restrict their access to potential revenue streams. |
| 15:54.55 | foxlit | Time to tunnel everything through SSL, really |
| 15:55.04 | Fisker- | we must destroy them |
| 15:55.35 | AckisWork | I wonder how this will be handled here in Canada |
| 15:56.48 | zenzelezz | hrm, this laptop came with "TwinLoad", XP and Vista... and five XP CDs o_O (apprently five different languages) |
| 15:57.44 | Lunessa | And to LAWL at Alltel considering the ads they run on TV in the US... http://news.wired.com/dynamic/stories/V/VERIZON_WIRELESS_ALLTEL?SITE=WIRE&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2008-06-05-07-43-05 |
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| 16:11.17 | Cide | so I was coding |
| 16:11.42 | Cide | and I just noticed this: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/28010/lines.JPG |
| 16:12.05 | Cide | the lengths match up completely! |
| 16:12.22 | zenzelezz | zomg |
| 16:12.24 | Thunder_Child | kinda odd...the captcha word i have to type in is "cumstances" |
| 16:13.21 | Thunder_Child | oh...nvm, on a refresh the workd is "Climax" so i guess it all fits in |
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| 16:20.37 | Lunessa | surfin' teh pr0n? *tisk* |
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| 16:27.25 | Lunessa | Got a PS3? Want Linux on it? http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/how_to/4263321.html |
| 16:27.46 | foxlit | why would anyone? |
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| 16:32.24 | kd3 | why not? |
| 16:32.52 | foxlit | Takes effort. |
| 16:33.09 | zenzelezz | oh, I thought you meant "why would anyone have a PS3" |
| 16:33.22 | foxlit | And you can't really call it a PS3 with that amount of processors turned off |
| 16:34.34 | Lunessa | Why code AddOns? Takes effort. Why not just stay home, surf porn, get high and eat junkfood? :P Mods and hacks are FUN! |
| 16:35.11 | Fisker- | both of your mothers |
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| 16:35.27 | zenzelezz | he has two mothers? |
| 16:35.36 | foxlit | Lunessa: there's a certain benefit associated with addons; there isn't with linux on a ps3 |
| 16:36.13 | zenzelezz | well there's no great benefit to having Apache on every device with a microchip, but that doesn't stop people from porting it to everything ;) |
| 16:36.20 | Lunessa | foxlit: My sarcastically delivered point was that someone did it for fun. And a PS3 is still pretty cheep for a blue-ray computer, even a slow one. |
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| 16:44.34 | Cide | is (?!foo) negative lookahead? |
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| 16:45.13 | Gnarfoz | do Shadow Weaving and Improved Shadow Bolt stack additively or multiplicatevly |
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| 16:46.35 | erikd | hey guys, i was hoping to find someone familiar with parsing the new combat log format. i was wondering if there was a way to determine a player's current hp without having to roughly calculate it? |
| 16:46.46 | Cide | from the combat log? |
| 16:46.50 | Gnarfoz | ...what has the combat log to do with that? |
| 16:46.55 | Gnarfoz | UnitHealth("player") |
| 16:47.03 | Cide | you could, theoretically |
| 16:47.07 | erikd | well, i mean out of game parsing. not a ui mod |
| 16:47.13 | Cide | then no |
| 16:47.17 | Gnarfoz | it's what InstantHealth does, but no, not out of game |
| 16:47.23 | Cide | unless you make an assumption of the current hp at some point in time |
| 16:47.26 | Cide | say, before combat takes place |
| 16:47.40 | Cide | but you need both current and max hp at one point to figure it out |
| 16:48.14 | Gnarfoz | you could, with the help of an ingame addon, do it |
| 16:48.22 | Gnarfoz | it'd have to dump everyone's HP into chat |
| 16:48.27 | Gnarfoz | and turn /chatlog on |
| 16:48.38 | erikd | hmm |
| 16:48.41 | Gnarfoz | merge that with the combatlog (same timestamp format) and you could calculate hp from then on |
| 16:49.26 | erikd | would it work if i did a first pass over the log and estimated the hp based on the heals and damage taken before deaths? |
| 16:49.41 | erikd | i realize it wouldn't be perfect but i'm looking for a general idea of the hp |
| 16:49.44 | Cide | you can only get a minimum bound |
| 16:49.53 | Cide | and only on people taking a lot of damage |
| 16:49.57 | Gnarfoz | you couldn't estimate health for people who don't die in the log |
| 16:50.02 | Cide | yes you could |
| 16:50.10 | Cide | but you can only get a minimum bound |
| 16:50.16 | Gnarfoz | right, you could estimate, heh |
| 16:50.21 | Cide | 'this guy has --at least-- X health" |
| 16:50.32 | Cide | s/'/"/ |
| 16:50.51 | erikd | hah, nice bot |
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| 16:51.16 | Gnarfoz | it's purl~ :) |
| 16:52.31 | erikd | well, i guess i'll have to figure out a way to fudge it to the best of my abilities |
| 16:52.47 | erikd | i'm trying to stay away from any required mods and just the standard combat log |
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| 16:53.09 | erikd | thanks for the answers :) |
| 16:53.09 | Cide | you could just go with |
| 16:53.21 | Cide | an estimate based on average health for players of a specific class for the specific encounter |
| 16:53.36 | Cide | say, if you face Lurker, priests probably won't have a ton of health |
| 16:53.49 | Gnarfoz | erikd: only you yourself would need to have the addon to dump the health values, or is that not good enough? :) |
| 16:53.50 | Cide | but if you're up there fighting Brutallus, people will have better gear, and priests will on average have more health |
| 16:54.14 | erikd | it's funny you mention brutallus... :P |
| 16:54.20 | erikd | that's how this whole project came about |
| 16:54.37 | Cide | that's not funny |
| 16:54.38 | Cide | I'm psychic |
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| 16:55.00 | erikd | we're having yet another internal debate on sta tanks vs avoidance tanks and i want a better way to prove my point |
| 16:55.09 | erikd | and it came from a bad night on brut |
| 16:55.24 | Cide | don't need parsing for that |
| 16:55.27 | Cide | you need mathematics |
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| 16:55.56 | Wikwocket | erikd: what is the point you want to prove? |
| 16:56.01 | Cide | I just mention mathematics, and peppy leaves :/ |
| 16:56.05 | erikd | haha |
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| 16:56.16 | Cide | Lopeppeppy: you broke my heart :( |
| 16:56.29 | erikd | i want to prove that avoidance isn't the end of the world on certain fights |
| 16:56.51 | Lopeppeppy | What did I do, Cide? *hugs* |
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| 16:56.57 | Cide | <Cide> you need mathematics |
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| 16:56.59 | Cide | Cide> I just mention mathematics, and peppy leaves :/ |
| 16:57.12 | Lopeppeppy | Darlin', you knew that about me! *laugh* |
| 16:57.21 | erikd | somehow the other officers think that our MT using some avoidance gear caused the problems we had that night and not the healers being bad |
| 16:57.37 | Wikwocket | May I ask what he problems were? |
| 16:57.39 | Lopeppeppy | But we're having a lot of brownouts today, I keep being dropped from my various connections. Annoying. |
| 16:57.43 | Cide | it's a fact that avoidance causes more spiky damage |
| 16:57.47 | Lunessa | when in doubt, blame the healers. |
| 16:57.58 | Cide | but the healers suck if that alone causes the tank to die |
| 16:58.22 | Lopeppeppy | Tank sucks if he dies. |
| 16:58.29 | erikd | there were a lot of random things that i think even the best healers in the world couldn't deal with |
| 16:58.44 | erikd | like one attempt where the tank got hit for 33k damage in the same millisecond |
| 16:58.48 | erikd | or another for 40k |
| 16:58.55 | erikd | avoidance won't cause that :P |
| 16:59.00 | Wikwocket | Hrm well yes that would be hard to heal through |
| 16:59.03 | Wikwocket | Boss parries? |
| 16:59.03 | Cide | no, avoidance saves you there |
| 16:59.05 | Lopeppeppy | Is that a crit, erikd? |
| 16:59.14 | erikd | the 33k wasn't |
| 16:59.23 | erikd | the 40k was but i don't know how that's possible |
| 16:59.31 | erikd | cide: and that's the point i'm trying to make |
| 17:00.01 | Lunessa | Anyone know any tank that can take a 40,000 point hit and not die? |
| 17:00.07 | erikd | i figured if i made a "raid replay" tool where you could watch the encounter happen again it'd prove my point |
| 17:00.09 | Cide | sure |
| 17:00.14 | Cide | shield wall! |
| 17:00.15 | Lopeppeppy | If he's getting crits/crushes, it's time to look at avoidance, ya. No tank can take that. |
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| 17:00.35 | Lunessa | brb, need bagel for this. |
| 17:00.39 | Lopeppeppy | There will always be an unlucky something, don't let the raid leaders forget luck. |
| 17:00.40 | zenzelezz | if he's getting crits it's time to look at defense |
| 17:00.49 | erikd | the crit is the weird thing, though. there's no way he'd be taking crits |
| 17:00.54 | bleeter | ok, so I've managed to ascertain that if you want to reply to a post on the forums, it'll take you about 2 hours.. 1 hour to load the post you need to read first (can't reply to nothing) and another hour to get the reply in |
| 17:01.26 | Lopeppeppy | erikd, if he took a crit, then there's a way he's taking them. :) Defense, avoidance... what's he low on? |
| 17:01.26 | Wikwocket | I think WWS lets you review the combat log, and apply filters |
| 17:01.36 | Wikwocket | That may be sufficient to prove some points |
| 17:01.37 | bleeter | i'm glad I wasted 6 hours all up just talking crap haha |
| 17:02.06 | kd3 | "waste"? |
| 17:02.23 | erikd | peppy: nothing, tbh. he said on that one he might accidentally sat down :P |
| 17:02.30 | erikd | BUT |
| 17:02.40 | erikd | the 33k noncrit one... |
| 17:03.24 | bleeter | kd3: ugh, I'm off to bed. just got an assembler failure while trying to build wine git on f9... gnight ;) |
| 17:04.01 | bleeter | kd3: yeah, had been smacking reload and repost while doing the installs on this other machine hehe, lotsa spare time ;) |
| 17:04.11 | Lopeppeppy | .... accidentally sat down? Um... PEBKAC is a critical failure in avoidance. |
| 17:04.12 | Wikwocket | Was the 33k a single hit or a series of blows? A special ability? |
| 17:04.31 | erikd | the 33k was a "standard" brut hit with MH and OH |
| 17:04.47 | erikd | peppy: yeah, i'm willing to ignore that one |
| 17:04.59 | Wikwocket | Okay, so not the result of a bad parry... we always look for those in my guild |
| 17:05.16 | erikd | i don't think brut can parry |
| 17:05.34 | Wikwocket | Ah, my bad |
| 17:05.44 | erikd | but yeah, i've had my doubts on that too |
| 17:06.06 | erikd | there are some really random tank deaths that i can't explain that i'd love to blame on parry |
| 17:06.59 | Wikwocket | The WWS filters are great for that, you can easily see all boss parries |
| 17:07.06 | erikd | oh, and on WWS. we did spend some time doing that last night |
| 17:08.01 | erikd | you can't see the player's current hp in that log parse, though, so i was hoping to do that on the one i was doing. something like that xperl one |
| 17:08.12 | erikd | ugh, brain fart. i can't remember the name |
| 17:09.33 | Lunessa | Theory-crafting encounters I'm unlikely to ever see requires bagels + strawberry cream cheese. |
| 17:09.49 | erikd | oooh, good stuff |
| 17:10.56 | Wikwocket | It seems like you are looking for a pre-death log, to see the events leading up to a death |
| 17:10.59 | Cide | note that it won't ever be accurate |
| 17:11.08 | Cide | because combat log events aren't necessarily in order |
| 17:11.09 | erikd | wik: yeah |
| 17:11.12 | Wikwocket | For that, Recount (detah tracker) and Grim Reaper are good mods |
| 17:11.16 | Wikwocket | *death |
| 17:11.17 | Cide | I don't know if the timestamps *ARE* in order |
| 17:11.21 | erikd | GRIM REAPER |
| 17:11.23 | erikd | that's the name |
| 17:11.23 | Cide | if they are, it could be accurate |
| 17:11.37 | Wikwocket | Grim Reaper, used to be part of xPerl IIRC |
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| 17:11.51 | Lunessa | It's available as a stand-alone mod. |
| 17:12.07 | Lopeppeppy | Part of a disclaimer by WWS is that if timestamps are too wildly divergent, it throws out the report that's most wildly off. So it acknowledges that events can be out of order based on your system time clock. |
| 17:12.13 | erikd | i always turned it off because it annoyed me when i moused over someone |
| 17:13.01 | erikd | yeah, i don't think the timestamps are in order because i noticed times on the WWS parsed logs last night that the tank gained rage from shield spec after he died |
| 17:13.06 | Lopeppeppy | Well, if it's going to help you solve this mystery, it might be a good tool. |
| 17:13.37 | erikd | i wonder if it's possible to get the merged log from WWS |
| 17:13.45 | erikd | so i don't have to do it myself :P |
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| 17:26.20 | foxlit | "tank gained rage from shield spec after he died"... may not be an indication of anything |
| 17:26.29 | foxlit | Suppose KB was blocked |
| 17:27.03 | foxlit | It's entirely imaginable that HP would update first, sending (dead), and rage would be added afterwards. |
| 17:28.35 | erikd | hmm, that's true |
| 17:28.54 | erikd | i like this channel, i think i'm going to have to stick around |
| 17:30.55 | Lunessa | I told you guys we shouldn't feed strays... |
| 17:31.08 | erikd | >< |
| 17:31.20 | Gnarfoz | I'd tell him to unbind 'sit' |
| 17:31.36 | Lunessa | Or move it . |
| 17:31.51 | Gnarfoz | to something he's unlikely to hit, yeah |
| 17:32.19 | Gnarfoz | http://www.evilempireguild.org/guides/critcrush.php |
| 17:32.24 | erikd | well, that was one case out of way too many in a bad night. i'm willing to bet he's going to be extra careful |
| 17:33.13 | erikd | hmm, apparently firefox 3 doesn't like that link or something |
| 17:33.38 | erikd | "This web site at www.evilempireguild.org has been reported as an attack site and has been blocked based on your security preferences." |
| 17:33.43 | erikd | evil indeed! |
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| 17:34.28 | foxlit | http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw9070.jpg |
| 17:37.11 | Lunessa | blocked for good reasons too. |
| 17:37.36 | Shirik | Sleep(INFINITE); // TODO: Get rid of ugly hack |
| 17:37.43 | Shirik | ^ suspends the thread for 49 days o.o |
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| 17:43.02 | bleeter | mmmm fish |
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| 17:48.23 | Fisker- | i will hurt you bleeter |
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| 17:58.34 | MentalPower | --> print(1) |
| 17:58.34 | batbot | MentalPower: 1 |
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| 18:01.36 | Fisker- | and this time it's personal bleeter |
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| 18:23.39 | Tekkub | http://www.theonion.com/content/amvo/barbie_suing_bratz?utm_source=onion_rss_daily |
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| 18:49.29 | Shirik | ow, just ow |
| 18:49.46 | Shirik | doing vision processing on 1.3 megapixels, and forgot to add the one line that frees the memory allocated each frame |
| 18:49.51 | Shirik | ran out of memory pretty quickly >.> |
| 18:53.06 | cog|work | ow |
| 18:54.13 | Wikwocket | not so much a memory leak as a memory Niagara Falls? |
| 18:54.34 | cog|work | memory geyser? |
| 18:55.03 | Wikwocket | memory maelstrom? |
| 18:56.40 | Lunessa | Memory great flood. |
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| 19:03.12 | cog|work | memory space shuttle challenger O-ring |
| 19:03.17 | Lunessa | lol |
| 19:03.50 | durcyn | if we can't joke about senseless death and destruction, what CAN we joke about? |
| 19:03.54 | Lunessa | You can visit. I have a condo overlooking the Lake of Fire on the 7th circle. |
| 19:04.19 | cog|work | durcyn: if hell is where all the drug dealers and prostitutes go, then count me in, imo |
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| 19:04.45 | Lunessa | I'll be all, "Hey Mary Magadline, 'sup?" |
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| 19:07.04 | Sixen_ | Rofl? |
| 19:07.04 | Sixen_ | My homie Mary M. |
| 19:09.09 | cog|work | http://sites.gizoogle.com/index2.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.prayerguide.org.uk%2Flordsprayer.htm |
| 19:10.23 | Sixen_ | Cogwheel has his own item in WoW!? |
| 19:10.55 | cog|work | "Cogwheel" isn't exactly obscure ;) |
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| 19:11.19 | Sixen_ | http://www.wowwiki.com/Cogspinner_Goggles |
| 19:11.26 | Sixen_ | Yes, but I would definitely tell people I had my own item. |
| 19:11.28 | Thunder_Child | "Hello, you eitha have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Macromizzles Flash Gangsta so jus' chill." lolz |
| 19:11.45 | Sixen_ | afk changing my name to Fang so I get my own set. |
| 19:11.47 | cog|work | hah |
| 19:11.55 | Sixen_ | I kid, I kid |
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| 19:19.24 | Thunder_Child | "World of Warcraft is an online role-play'n experience set in tha award-winn'n Warcraft universe . Nigga get shut up or get wet up. Motherfucka assume tha roles of Warcraft heroes as they explore, adventure, n quest across a vizzle world. World of Warcraft is a "Massively Multiplaya Online Role Play'n Game" whizzich allows thousands of brotha ta interact witin tha same world where the sun be shinin and I be rhymin'. Whetha adventur' |
| 19:20.01 | Thunder_Child | sorry about the slur, didnt see it |
| 19:20.17 | Sixen_ | Lawl~ |
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| 19:22.44 | Lunessa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q0EWaI2cwQ - NSFW |
| 19:26.07 | zenzelezz | so, overnight Light Leather prices seem to have jumped from ~75s/stack to 20-30g/stack o_O This realm is crazy |
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| 19:41.32 | zenzelezz | not sure if this was already linked: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7015081577&pageNo=3&sid=1#40 |
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| 19:46.46 | Fisker- | it's probably that post by eyonix |
| 19:46.50 | Fisker- | which means it's old |
| 19:47.05 | zenzelezz | quite right =) |
| 19:47.21 | zenzelezz | I don't visit the US forum myself so I only relay what I'm linked |
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| 19:49.48 | Lopeppeppy | Links suck!!! |
| 19:50.20 | Thunder_Child | uhh..is anyone else getting an error @ http://www.amazon.com/ ? |
| 19:50.23 | zenzelezz | I'm sure we could make some linking fun peppy |
| 19:50.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Here, 'peppy. Have one. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7015081577&pageNo=3&sid=1#40 |
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| 19:50.37 | zenzelezz | Thunder_Child: Slashdot said it was down, but that HTTPS should work |
| 19:50.48 | Lopeppeppy | Eyonix can be hot sometimes. |
| 19:50.54 | Thunder_Child | ah, ty zenzelezz |
| 19:51.01 | Cide | works fine for me |
| 19:51.11 | Lopeppeppy | Thunder_Child, that link works fine for me too. Clear your cache. |
| 19:51.36 | Thunder_Child | but i like my cache... |
| 19:53.05 | Lopeppeppy | It apparently has a fight with Amazon. Discipline it better, time out corner IMO? |
| 19:53.39 | zenzelezz | so you like discipline? |
| 19:54.36 | Lopeppeppy | I see a use for it when called for, yes. |
| 19:54.57 | zenzelezz | I always pictures you more as someone into shadow |
| 19:55.04 | zenzelezz | *pictured |
| 19:55.21 | Lunessa | Eyonix issued the SMACK down |
| 19:56.06 | Lopeppeppy | Shadow, zenzelezz? |
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| 19:56.13 | zenzelezz | priest spec |
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| 19:59.39 | Lunessa | 14 month thread-necro for the lose. |
| 20:00.02 | zenzelezz | think that's bad? I remember three-year old necros on the AO forums |
| 20:00.37 | zenzelezz | the forums should auto-lock threads after six months inactivity |
| 20:00.41 | Lunessa | AO - brought to you by FunCom. |
| 20:00.49 | zenzelezz | yup, that's the one |
| 20:01.07 | Lunessa | I've been trying out Age of Conan. |
| 20:01.33 | zenzelezz | I tried it briefly. Technically impressive, but as I though beforehand the setting just isn't my kind |
| 20:02.47 | zenzelezz | for all its numerous flaws, there are a lot of things I miss about AO |
| 20:03.59 | Lunessa | I'm not really excited about AoC. It's.. well, not much fun. I want more FUN from a company named FunCom. |
| 20:04.18 | Wikwocket | Thunder_Child: is the Amazon error you saw something about, "We think you are a robot"? |
| 20:05.17 | zenzelezz | Lunessa: while I disagree about judging from the company name, I do agree about the fun. That's one of the things I loved about AO, the humor |
| 20:05.36 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: It was a joke. |
| 20:05.51 | Lunessa | You know, funny ha-ha. |
| 20:05.53 | zenzelezz | having a class called "bureaucrat" with debuff auras called things like "Demotivational Speech: That is not on the agenda" and so on |
| 20:06.03 | zenzelezz | sorry, I only understand Norwegian/British jokes |
| 20:06.25 | durcyn | that's okay, it wasn't funny |
| 20:07.09 | Thunder_Child | Wikwocket, err...no |
| 20:07.20 | Wikwocket | oh, ok, I got that error :) |
| 20:07.28 | Thunder_Child | impressive |
| 20:07.39 | Wikwocket | although now it's saying "An error occurred when we tried to process your request. Rest assured, we're already working...." |
| 20:09.46 | zenzelezz | ... so I'm going through Barrens quests, and I have this one to retrieve "Barak's head". I can't help thinking of Obama |
| 20:10.14 | zenzelezz | foxlit: how come? |
| 20:10.21 | foxlit | It's silly, displaying the "select line" inverted mouse arrow for collapse blocks |
| 20:11.03 | zenzelezz | in which editor? Or are you coding something on your own that's using it? |
| 20:11.23 | foxlit | notepad++ in this case |
| 20:11.32 | foxlit | Think scite has the same issue |
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| 20:28.35 | Wikwocket | Thunder_Child: apparently Amazon changed some hardware last night, customers are seeing weird error messages |
| 20:31.18 | Thunder_Child | poo @ amazon |
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| 20:38.41 | Lunessa | *headdesk* I write a helpful article on troubleshooting AddOns under Vista, and dorks want to turn it into a discussion on why you don't need computer security. |
| 20:39.08 | foxlit | report them all |
| 20:39.13 | foxlit | Although |
| 20:39.18 | foxlit | Posting helpful stuff on forums? |
| 20:39.27 | foxlit | What were you thinking?! :) |
| 20:39.37 | Shirik | Lunessa: Anyone willing to say you don't need computer security is a fool |
| 20:39.44 | Lunessa | I know, I should get a scrip for Paxil or something. |
| 20:39.50 | Shirik | especially if they think it's because they know computers well enough that they don't need security |
| 20:40.20 | Shirik | Personally, I run with UAC enabled |
| 20:40.55 | Lunessa | Yeah. I know. And hey, did you guys see the article about the new trojan that encrypts your files and demands you buy a decryption key? |
| 20:41.28 | Shirik | lmao |
| 20:41.31 | foxlit | That's not new |
| 20:41.34 | Shirik | yes I did, and I still think it's hilarious |
| 20:41.40 | foxlit | Who installs games in Program Files, anyway? |
| 20:41.47 | Shirik | I do! |
| 20:41.54 | Shirik | D:\Program Files (x86)\ |
| 20:41.55 | Lunessa | Lots of people. |
| 20:41.59 | Shirik | :D |
| 20:42.01 | Shirik | I cheat |
| 20:42.04 | Lunessa | :P |
| 20:42.04 | foxlit | meh, why? |
| 20:42.06 | Shirik | I made a fake program files folder |
| 20:42.24 | durcyn | the correct location for game installs is \games\foo |
| 20:42.31 | durcyn | spaces can fornicate themselves with a rusty pitchfork |
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| 20:42.44 | p3lim | still getting errors with this line: |
| 20:42.45 | Shirik | I'll put a space in your pitchfork |
| 20:42.45 | p3lim | message:gsub("%%s", spell):gsub("%%t", target) |
| 20:42.52 | p3lim | spell and target are locals |
| 20:42.57 | Lunessa | I use D:\Games myself. |
| 20:43.07 | durcyn | that's the most romantic thing you've ever said to me, Shirik. |
| 20:43.28 | Shirik | p3lim: Do spell and target actually have a value? |
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| 20:43.36 | zenzelezz | partitions, baby. C: = Windows, D: = games, E: = apps, F: = misc |
| 20:43.48 | Shirik | I have tons of partitions |
| 20:43.51 | Shirik | windows just doesn't recognize them |
| 20:44.03 | p3lim | yeah both does |
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| 20:44.28 | p3lim | well, if my tooltip scan works they do |
| 20:44.43 | p3lim | spell always has a value no matter what |
| 20:45.05 | Shirik | --> local spell, target = "foo", "bar"; message = "this %s is %t a message"; return message:gsub("%%s",spell):gsub("%%t",target) |
| 20:45.05 | batbot | Shirik: > this foo is bar a message, 1 |
| 20:45.13 | Shirik | obviously you are leaving out important information |
| 20:45.17 | Shirik | because what you have said works |
| 20:45.35 | Lunessa | Heh, I'm considering stripping my AMD 3700 box of XP and installing Linux. |
| 20:45.38 | p3lim | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/AnnounceDruid/AnnounceDruid.lua |
| 20:46.19 | Shirik | I can't go there right now |
| 20:46.19 | p3lim | ok |
| 20:46.19 | Shirik | but my point still stands - the code you have said in this channel works, you have a faulty assumption somewhere |
| 20:46.19 | p3lim | might be that the local target is faulty |
| 20:46.19 | Shirik | I'm still on the side that either 'message' 'target' or 'spell' is not what you think it is |
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| 20:46.30 | p3lim | message aint, spell aint, target can be |
| 20:46.43 | p3lim | its my tooltip scan |
| 20:46.53 | p3lim | think its faulty |
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| 20:50.16 | p3lim | its a tooltip scan hooked with AceHook-3.0, but i might have done it wrong, not sure |
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| 21:12.20 | Shirik | well that's impressive |
| 21:12.29 | Kirov | ? |
| 21:13.14 | zenzelezz | you did the memory mistake again? |
| 21:13.21 | Shirik | I just caused an access violation in msvcr90d.dll (the debug run-time library) and my debugger catches it and says "ok, where's the source for SDK\crt\src\dbgheap.c so I can show you the problem" |
| 21:13.32 | Shirik | dbgheap.c being one of Microsoft's files >.> |
| 21:13.55 | zenzelezz | IIRC you get the CRT code with VS, don't you? |
| 21:14.12 | Shirik | not with express I believe |
| 21:14.24 | Shirik | I should try running this on my laptop (has pro) |
| 21:14.27 | zenzelezz | ah, don't know about the light version |
| 21:14.30 | Shirik | But um.... it segfaulted in malloc? |
| 21:14.33 | Shirik | wtf |
| 21:14.47 | Shirik | 0>0x00003650Worker ThreadWin32 Thread_heap_alloc_dbg_implNormal0 |
| 21:14.50 | Shirik | oops |
| 21:14.51 | Shirik | sorry |
| 21:15.30 | Shirik | stupid right click auto-paste >.> |
| 21:15.53 | Shirik | oh well I think this is the sign that I need to go home for the week |
| 21:16.00 | Shirik | byes |
| 21:16.06 | Funkeh` | bb |
| 21:16.08 | Cide | byes |
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| 21:24.14 | Dashkal | I'm confused. Bornakk _might_ have just told us that we will get an extra char slot: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7015312189&pageNo=1&sid=1#0 |
| 21:24.21 | Dashkal | I'm thinking it was just a poorly worded response |
| 21:24.42 | Dashkal | Specifically comments 12, 13, and 14 |
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| 21:35.13 | Tenchworks | the vaugeness really makes that questionable. That's a fairly thin ice that he just threw that subject on |
| 21:35.18 | Tenchworks | >.< |
| 21:35.43 | Tenchworks | just realized how late I am on responded there |
| 21:39.21 | zenzelezz | 11 minutes? That's nothing on IRC |
| 21:40.30 | Tenchworks | hehe |
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| 21:47.21 | Shirik | psh |
| 21:47.29 | Shirik | I've responded to things hours later, and that's nothing |
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| 21:52.35 | Dashkal | lol |
| 21:52.54 | Dashkal | Given how off-and-on active this channel is, I wouldn't consider it ignored until it scrolls off :p |
| 21:53.11 | Dashkal | And agrreed, it's so vague I'm taking it with a grain of salt. Hoping he'll follow up |
| 21:53.52 | Lunessa | I read it. Twice. His only real point is that they've only coded for 1 heroic 'slot' per server. |
| 21:54.38 | Dashkal | If there's a specific heroic "slot" that would imply an extra character slot. DK is really just another class that happens to start at 55 |
| 21:56.20 | Lunessa | Slot is a misnomer anyway. |
| 21:56.22 | Lunessa | They' |
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| 21:57.25 | Lunessa | They're only allowing one heroic character per server - " The character screen can handle only so many heroic classes at once. But it does help to not have players continuously making them as their alts just because they start at a higher level. " Makes me think the reason is the last bit. |
| 21:58.15 | Dashkal | "The character screen can handle only so many heroic classes at once." Struck me as bornakk humor. Vague as always :p |
| 21:58.29 | durcyn | yeah, i don't think they've fully considered the consequences to professions and the like |
| 21:58.48 | durcyn | new account with multiple deathknights = free cloth/whatever cooldowns without levelling to 40 |
| 21:58.52 | Dashkal | *nods* They're aware of the professions issue, but haven't solved it yet (was mentioned in an interview) |
| 21:59.14 | Lopeppeppy | *laughs* I get crap for being the lowest healing paladin in last night's raid. Turns out that I was the only one cleansing. Hmmm... correlation much? |
| 21:59.26 | Dashkal | But you'd still have to level the DK to the req for 376+ of the profession to matter |
| 21:59.32 | Tenchworks | well as it seems, they have it already so you can have one of everyclass and the 10th character slot is now intended for DK. I'd expect if they add a new class after the WOTLK expansion then we can expect an to have an extra character slot |
| 22:00.53 | durcyn | i still wish they were doing it as a specialization instead of a new class. abandoning a character i've spent 3 years on is garbage. |
| 22:02.01 | Dashkal | a) You'd have to be a warrior or a pali to "Specialize" into DK, heavily restricting who can do it, and (b) I don't want to give up an existing character to play a new form of character |
| 22:02.23 | Tenchworks | I'd think they have a much larger workload on thier hands if they did it as a specialization |
| 22:02.34 | durcyn | or hell, do it both ways. |
| 22:03.04 | Tenchworks | if they did that way there'd be issues of class balancing right offbat |
| 22:03.20 | Dashkal | Besides, why would have have to abandon a 3 year character? One or the other just becomes an alt... If you like the orig more then keep playing the orig. If you like the DK more it doesn't matter than you dropped the orig. |
| 22:03.32 | Dashkal | that you dropped* |
| 22:04.21 | Tenchworks | the only issue i'd have with dropping my main is losing all that time spent on rep grinds |
| 22:04.44 | Dashkal | Well, you have a "rep wipe" with WotLK anyway |
| 22:05.03 | Dashkal | as in the old reputations have their value demoted due to lack of use in 71-80 content |
| 22:06.34 | Tenchworks | is there anyword on how Argent Dawn will be presented. If i heaerd right it's about the only old world group that is going up to northrend without a new name |
| 22:06.55 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:07.00 | kd3 | much like how the CC turned in to the CE |
| 22:07.12 | Dashkal | That one I'm wondering about myself... It would strike me as odd if they let me keep that one alone at revered... yeah, I'd expect that |
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| 22:08.31 | Tenchworks | hmm now that you mention it, they'd probally only be there to introduce us to their new force/ally group that's up there like how it was with the CC/CE |
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| 22:13.10 | Zyuu | Lopeppeppy |
| 22:13.15 | Zyuu | jumping into the discussion a bit late, but |
| 22:13.30 | Zyuu | it's very annoying to see healers ignore their specific task, because they are so afraid of not being high enough on the meters |
| 22:13.45 | Shirik | I tell my healers constantly that meters mean nothing :) |
| 22:13.52 | Zyuu | We use to have mages like that on Sapphiron, they wanted to ensure maximum damage, so they "forgot" to cure curse |
| 22:13.54 | Shirik | well, except when they get out-healed by the tank |
| 22:13.59 | Shirik | then it means something |
| 22:14.06 | Shirik | but if you have to think about that, then you're getting kicked anyway |
| 22:14.17 | Zyuu | Yeah, that's not possible unless you really have no idea what you're doing, heh |
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| 22:14.24 | Shirik | I've seen it happen |
| 22:14.27 | Zyuu | me too |
| 22:14.33 | Zyuu | It's pretty sad |
| 22:14.37 | Shirik | I've also seen one of my healers manage to do more damage to the raid in shatters than he healed |
| 22:14.42 | Zyuu | But yeah, it's the same with assignments on essence |
| 22:14.46 | Zyuu | and other encounters |
| 22:14.48 | AckisWork | I was out healed by a shadow priest on a muru attempt this week :P |
| 22:15.54 | Zyuu | Paladins don't shine as much in Sunwell I hear! |
| 22:16.02 | Zyuu | I had to heal like mad to keep up with our shamans in bt |
| 22:16.10 | Zyuu | and I outgeared them all too :/ |
| 22:16.13 | Zyuu | ah well, times change |
| 22:16.41 | Lunessa | Shirik: Getting "out-healed by the tank" means Prayer of Mending and or Lifebloom are doing their jobs. :P |
| 22:16.59 | Shirik | pom has a 10 second cooldown.... |
| 22:17.33 | Lunessa | Yes, but PoM from multiple priests will still credit the tank. :P |
| 22:17.57 | Lunessa | I'm just nit-picking your argument, 'cause you already know everything. :P |
| 22:18.03 | Shirik | I do |
| 22:18.05 | Shirik | thank you :) |
| 22:18.36 | Lunessa | And on that note, I think I'm going home. I have to be here in the morning to work. FEH |
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| 23:21.11 | foxlit | # Mandelbrot's in heaven, at least he will be when he's dead |
| 23:24.38 | Dashkal | Right now he's still alive and teaching math at Yale... |
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| 23:47.07 | DARKGuy | :) |
| 23:49.40 | Dashkal | Is it bad I know that one from memory? :p |
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| 23:58.14 | Hapnintwo | everybody here sleeps? :-( |
| 23:59.02 | MentalPower | I *think* we're all human, so yeah |
