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| 00:07.16 | Mikk | Kaso: are you sure it's wdn that hangs and not your browser that borks up? |
| 00:09.59 | Mikk | cause it downloads in ~15-20 seconds for me |
| 00:10.07 | Mikk | and the displaying starts right off the bat |
| 00:11.31 | Kaso | 1min was a bit of hyperbole, but it takes a good 12 seconds to http ok on globalstrings |
| 00:12.06 | Mikk | it takes ~1 second for me to see the top of it |
| 00:12.22 | Mikk | diffing 2.4.2 to 2.4.1 |
| 00:13.02 | Mikk | i wouldn't mind it if it was gz compressed mind you |
| 00:13.22 | Kaso | diffing works much faster it has no syntax highlighting |
| 00:13.29 | Kaso | but a straight file view like; http://wowcompares.com/2428278/FrameXML/GlobalStrings.lua |
| 00:13.36 | Kaso | seems to render before they start to return |
| 00:14.01 | Mikk | ah yeah there we go |
| 00:14.03 | Mikk | that takes a while |
| 00:14.45 | Kaso | i presume the store the files a plaintext and pass it through the highlighting engine each request |
| 00:15.06 | Mikk | yup |
| 00:15.12 | Mikk | that'd be my guess aswell |
| 00:15.37 | Mikk | and it doesn't allow local caching either it seems |
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| 00:30.28 | Drundia | they should just generate highlighted version and store it next to plaintext files |
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| 00:31.47 | Drundia | hmm, i feel that it took a while to start output, but highlighted file appeared instantly |
| 00:32.39 | Kaso | yah, it stalls on the other end until the entire rendering is complete, then transfers over to you realtively fast as its just a text file |
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| 00:33.36 | GhostfromTexas | is tehre anyway to have lua load another lua file? |
| 00:33.41 | GhostfromTexas | that's not listed in the toc ? |
| 00:33.45 | Drundia | in wow no |
| 00:33.47 | GhostfromTexas | so it can just be on call |
| 00:33.50 | GhostfromTexas | ah ok |
| 00:33.54 | GhostfromTexas | damn thakns |
| 00:34.23 | Drundia | grrrr, spammers bypass badboy again.... |
| 00:34.43 | Funkeh` | Drundia, pm me the entire line |
| 00:35.50 | Drundia | let me see if it might be in newest version |
| 00:36.08 | Funkeh` | well pm me and i'll tell ya :P |
| 00:36.56 | Drundia | i would sign it as "k4gold com" |
| 00:38.56 | GhostfromTexas | can you do embeded functions with lua? functions inside other functions? |
| 00:39.15 | zenzelezz | nice, the Chinese also killed Kil'jaeden too |
| 00:39.32 | Kaso | sure, in lua functions are treated as just variables |
| 00:39.37 | GhostfromTexas | k |
| 00:39.50 | Funkeh` | Drundia, yes, that's covered in the latest version |
| 00:39.56 | Funkeh` | 1.7.5 if i remember right |
| 00:40.16 | Kaso | you can define then on the fly, pass them around, use them as array indexes, its all good |
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| 00:50.05 | Funkeh` | Dolby, you know I hate you for forcing us to need images for certain categories |
| 00:50.09 | Funkeh` | :< |
| 00:50.29 | Tekkub | *evil grin* my category doesn't require screenies |
| 00:50.38 | Drundia | what is your category? |
| 00:50.51 | Tekkub | the one with my name in it :P |
| 00:50.57 | Funkeh` | buffs/debuffs |
| 00:51.06 | Funkeh` | oh, nvm |
| 00:51.10 | Drundia | ah, that... |
| 00:51.12 | Tekkub | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/cat37.html |
| 00:51.18 | Drundia | everyone needs such category! |
| 00:59.40 | zenzelezz | staying up all night always seems like such a good idea; until around three to four in the morning... |
| 01:00.57 | Corrodias | tek has been busy... |
| 01:01.04 | Tekkub | oreo? |
| 01:01.22 | Tekkub | all I did was localize GreedBacon for deDE |
| 01:01.43 | Tekkub | and sweat |
| 01:01.48 | Tekkub | lots of sweating today |
| 01:01.53 | Tekkub | I hate "summer" |
| 01:02.30 | Tekkub | oh and I installed this on my server... http://qttabbar.wikidot.com/qtaddressbar |
| 01:02.53 | Tekkub | throw in a good "vista-style start menu" program... and I honestly don't have reason to stay using vista |
| 01:03.08 | Tekkub | aside from the usual "I don't want to reinstall" excuse |
| 01:03.24 | Corrodias | they also produce a tabbed explorer thing, though i think i would prefer it without tabs |
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| 01:03.50 | Tekkub | yea I saw that, don't know if I'd like it or not |
| 01:04.13 | Tekkub | I mean, I love tabbed browsing with Firefox... oh and I heard IE finally noticed it was neat too... |
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| 01:04.50 | Corrodias | indeed. as for vista, the one and only single good thing i've heard about it is that it allows dx10. 0 other things. :( |
| 01:05.20 | Tekkub | and I don't give a flying fuck about DX10, all I care is WoW is playable |
| 01:13.39 | Funkeh` | Tekkub, know of a way around translations for friends/class coloring? |
| 01:13.56 | Funkeh` | friends/guild class |
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| 01:14.35 | Tekkub | "around"? |
| 01:15.03 | Tekkub | repharse that... what do you want to do? |
| 01:15.06 | zenzelezz | woot, the peppy is back |
| 01:15.29 | Funkeh` | Tekkub, color classes without the damn translations! |
| 01:15.29 | Tekkub | loppybunny? |
| 01:15.53 | Tekkub | Funkeh`, *points at teknicolor* that's how I know how to do it... |
| 01:16.08 | Funkeh` | yeah, I think you use transaltions in that? |
| 01:16.14 | Tekkub | yes |
| 01:16.21 | Funkeh` | oh well |
| 01:16.31 | JoshBorke | Tekkub: did you see, i made BindingsReminder dvorak friendly :-P |
| 01:16.35 | Tekkub | some things only return localized class names |
| 01:16.51 | Tekkub | and I know of no table in the game with localized-to-engrish translations |
| 01:17.01 | Tekkub | JoshBorke, kew! |
| 01:18.03 | zenzelezz | I can't stand Dvorak... pretentious bastard |
| 01:18.20 | JoshBorke | takes one to know one ;-P |
| 01:18.57 | Tekkub | I like him better than Qwerty... I mean what is that, Swedish? |
| 01:19.04 | Tekkub | what a stupid name |
| 01:19.30 | Tekkub | Qwerty U. Iop |
| 01:19.37 | Tekkub | Dr.? |
| 01:20.32 | Funkeh` | so my dog came into my room and knocked over the external hd on the floor, could easily hapen, yet now the hd isn't being recognised at all |
| 01:20.49 | Funkeh` | there's no way in hell you're telling me a simple knock over has just cost me all my data |
| 01:21.00 | Lopeppeppy | Check the connections, Funkeh` |
| 01:21.05 | Funkeh` | i did! |
| 01:21.11 | Tekkub | lawl |
| 01:21.13 | Funkeh` | restarted both |
| 01:21.18 | Lopeppeppy | Did you restart..... hmm. |
| 01:21.28 | Tekkub | serever stashed away in the closet FTFW! |
| 01:21.49 | Funkeh` | i just can't believe the piece of shit could be that fragile |
| 01:21.50 | Tekkub | everything "important" on my desktop backs up to the server nightly |
| 01:22.25 | Funkeh` | next time i'll be buying one that is usb powered |
| 01:22.28 | Tekkub | hard drives aren't designed to take jarring when running... just because you put it in an external enclosure doesn't change that... |
| 01:23.16 | Funkeh` | well i'm hoping i can rip it apart and use it's sata connection in a desktop and recover something |
| 01:23.22 | Funkeh` | but it's sealed good |
| 01:23.35 | Funkeh` | fucking seagate |
| 01:24.19 | kd3 | so very glad my hdds are mounted in a very, very heavy case, hidden between my two monitors and the wall behind it up on top of a desk |
| 01:24.48 | Funkeh` | http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-ST302504FDA1E1-RK-FreeAgent-Desktop-External/dp/B000NDBRJC/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1212369857&sr=8-2 |
| 01:24.51 | Tekkub | poor funk |
| 01:24.52 | Funkeh` | not recommeneded! |
| 01:25.06 | Tekkub | that'll learn you that external drives kinda suck |
| 01:25.39 | Tekkub | only good for moving mass amounts of data from place to place, when a USB key or DVD-R won't suffice |
| 01:25.57 | Funkeh` | omfg |
| 01:26.01 | Funkeh` | this is good |
| 01:26.08 | Funkeh` | After about six weeks of use (just sitting on my desk, not moved from computer to computer or handled), I got messages saying the device had malfunctioned and my computer no longer recognized the drive. I went through all of the troubleshooting procedures on Seagate's website and nothing worked; finally, when I called the vendor about it they offered me an immediate replacement. The tech support rep I spoke to had seen the same issue |
| 01:26.08 | Funkeh` | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:26.12 | Funkeh` | i should read reviews |
| 01:26.46 | Tekkub | lawl |
| 01:27.04 | Tekkub | I'm telling you funk, external drives should be a last resort |
| 01:27.28 | Funkeh` | it's for playing my downloaded *stuff* on the laptop :/ |
| 01:27.29 | Tekkub | only HDD I've ever had fail was a lil laptop drive we put in an enclosure and the hubby took to work |
| 01:27.54 | Tekkub | downloaded stuff goes on the file server so everyone in the house can use it! |
| 01:28.04 | Tekkub | how else are your kids supposed to watch your porn? |
| 01:28.14 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 01:28.14 | kd3 | I've lost something like 3 drives to old age and one to not hitting the bottom of the bathtub curve |
| 01:28.23 | Funkeh` | i don't have a server or porn :/ |
| 01:28.33 | kd3 | har. my computer is the file server... good terabyte of stuff on it right now |
| 01:28.42 | Funkeh` | i'm way too lazy to set up a proper network |
| 01:29.00 | Tekkub | get yourself a simple fileserver, even if it's just a stupid prebuilt Window Home Server (winhoser) |
| 01:29.49 | Mikk | or one of those network drives |
| 01:29.59 | Tekkub | hell, get one of those shitty drive-less NAS's, you already have an external drive to plug into it *snicker* |
| 01:30.15 | DARKGuy | http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/258/1201298424526uh7.jpg <- this picture is epic :D |
| 01:30.20 | Funkeh` | was thinking of http://www.amazon.co.uk/Freecom-250GB-Toughdrive-Inch-Drive/dp/B000RAEFYU/ref=sr_1_22?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1212370205&sr=8-22 |
| 01:30.23 | Tekkub | I just could never justify almost $100 for something that didn't even have a drive |
| 01:30.25 | Funkeh` | SHOCK PROOF |
| 01:30.47 | JoshBorke | DARKGuy: the caption should really say "EPIC FAIL", "When one palm just isn't enough" |
| 01:30.56 | Tekkub | shock proof WHEN RUNNING? |
| 01:30.57 | DARKGuy | :( |
| 01:31.00 | DARKGuy | it's still funny |
| 01:31.03 | Funkeh` | Internal anti-shock mechanism insulating the hard drive from shock; USB-bus powered, no power adapter needed* |
| 01:31.20 | Funkeh` | funilly i can't find the asterix explanation |
| 01:31.23 | Tekkub | a "falling" drive would be unpowered and parked |
| 01:31.42 | JoshBorke | you'd hope |
| 01:31.58 | Tekkub | * Can withstand falling from 2 metres on a flat surface |
| 01:32.03 | Funkeh` | review : Oh, and the day after I started to use it my 3 year old droppped it down the stairs, thought it would fly I suppose, IT STILL WORKS! Use it to beat off muggers and you'll be charged with using an offensive weapon, BUT IT WILL STILL WORK! |
| 01:32.05 | Tekkub | * comes with 3 meter cable |
| 01:32.26 | kd3 | lol |
| 01:33.29 | Funkeh` | Tekkub, where does it say that? :o |
| 01:33.42 | Tekkub | that was me being funny :P |
| 01:33.49 | Funkeh` | oh :P |
| 01:33.54 | DARKGuy | lol Tekkub |
| 01:34.01 | Tekkub | shock resistant: Operating 300G, non-operating 1000G |
| 01:34.15 | Tekkub | okey lets find a "normal" drive |
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| 01:35.46 | Tekkub | hrm... maxtor doesn't list shock, the asses |
| 01:35.56 | Funkeh` | lol |
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| 01:40.35 | Tekkub | http://www.plextor.com/english/products/PX-SP08.htm |
| 01:40.42 | Tekkub | doesn't list shock rating either |
| 01:40.55 | Tekkub | prolly a normal drive in a rubber suit |
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| 01:41.33 | Tekkub | "Shock ratings are 200-400 Gs for normal hard drives and 800-1200 Gs for 2.5" hard drives." from mp3car.com |
| 01:42.22 | Tekkub | sounds like non-running though... |
| 01:42.32 | Tekkub | IBM 120GB 7200RPM DESKSTAR: "Shock Tolerance : 55 g @ 2ms half-sine pulse (operating) / 350 g @ 2ms half-sine pulse (non-operating)" |
| 01:49.07 | Tekkub | Funkeh`, Hitachi Travelstar E7K200: 350G Op, 1000G non-op |
| 01:49.23 | Funkeh` | got a link? |
| 01:49.32 | Tekkub | I think that "shock resistant" one is just bullshit |
| 01:49.40 | Tekkub | http://www.hitachigst.com/portal/site/en/menuitem.40040bf2845b7d75797ecae2eac4f0a0/ |
| 01:51.27 | Tekkub | 7K200 is the same rating... $170 on newegg |
| 01:51.41 | Tekkub | 200GB, 2.5" drive |
| 01:53.06 | Tekkub | desktop drives don't list shock at all on thier site... your external a 3.5" one? (assuming so since it's not USB-powered) |
| 01:54.11 | Funkeh` | the broken one? |
| 01:54.15 | Tekkub | yes |
| 01:54.52 | Funkeh` | 11 x 5 x 10 inches |
| 01:55.12 | Tekkub | the drive inside it :P |
| 01:55.23 | Funkeh` | 7.5 x 1.6 x 6.4-inches |
| 01:57.09 | Tekkub | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148233 |
| 01:57.15 | Tekkub | yes, it's a 3.5" drive |
| 01:58.07 | Tekkub | in short, if you insist on getting another external, get a 2.5" one and for the love of god set it as close to the floor as you can |
| 01:58.36 | Tekkub | it's likely cheaper to just buy a bare 2.5" drive and an enclosure, the enclosures are like $20 |
| 01:58.54 | Funkeh` | well seagate is of the menu |
| 01:59.08 | Tekkub | external drives are always horribly overpriced compared to a bare drive the same size |
| 01:59.21 | Funkeh` | so i see :/ |
| 02:00.17 | Tekkub | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817794002 $14 |
| 02:01.01 | Funkeh` | jesus that's sexy |
| 02:01.42 | Tekkub | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822149069 $96 |
| 02:01.52 | Tekkub | so $110 for a self-made 250GB |
| 02:01.54 | Tekkub | or... |
| 02:01.58 | JoshBorke | Cons: Doesnt' work at all. We bought two of these, neither one works with multiple known good drives. Not worth the cost to return them. |
| 02:02.30 | Tekkub | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136247 |
| 02:02.38 | Tekkub | hrm... bout $110 there as well |
| 02:03.52 | JoshBorke | my fiancee just asked me about these |
| 02:04.09 | Tekkub | you know what's funny, as I say all this I have a hack-job external on my desk right now... |
| 02:04.09 | Tekkub | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812119152 |
| 02:04.24 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 02:04.49 | Tekkub | only 30GB tho :) |
| 02:05.05 | Tekkub | handiest little tool I ever bought |
| 02:05.29 | Tekkub | someone comes over with HDD problems, rip it out and plug it into mine without having to jack around inside |
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| 02:12.58 | Tekkub | http://www.netflix.com/Movie/The_Andromeda_Strain/70070309?&mqso=70002140&trkid=129129 |
| 02:13.10 | Tekkub | I'm happy they remade that, and sad they fucked it up |
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| 02:13.16 | Tekkub | the first review is great though |
| 02:13.43 | Tekkub | "and the inevitable threat of TERRORISTS!--which actually goes nowhere and was just dropped into the movie to make it more relevant to the year 2008. I mean, we have to make sure everyone knows it could possibly have been done by TERRORISTS! right?" |
| 02:13.44 | Lopeppeppy | It had both good points and bad points. I did enjoy it. |
| 02:14.05 | Tekkub | you seen the old one? |
| 02:14.15 | Lopeppeppy | Yuppers. |
| 02:14.24 | Tekkub | okey maybe I'll queue it up |
| 02:15.06 | Kaso | Theres a new andromeda strain? how did i not notice about this |
| 02:15.12 | Lopeppeppy | TV miniseries. |
| 02:15.17 | Kaso | ooh |
| 02:15.38 | Tekkub | A&E, so you would think they wouldn't jack it up beyond recognition |
| 02:15.38 | Kaso | the film's a classic i hope they treated it well |
| 02:15.57 | Lopeppeppy | They did okay, good points and bad points. It's hard to modernize without ruining some of the old. |
| 02:16.03 | Tekkub | from the reviews, they added useless sub/sideplots to extend the playtime |
| 02:17.25 | Lopeppeppy | It's been too long since I read the book, but there were some extraneous things in there, yes. |
| 02:18.04 | Tekkub | I'll queue it up, and if it's an utter pile of shit I'll hunt you down and poke you in the eye loppybunny |
| 02:18.13 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr. |
| 02:18.15 | Cairenn | I didn't think it was too terrible |
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| 02:18.31 | Lopeppeppy | Just be prepared to give it some latitude due to it being a remake. |
| 02:18.33 | Tekkub | this has limitless potential though: http://www.netflix.com/Movie/The_Onion_Movie/70096931?&mqso=70002140&trkid=129129 |
| 02:18.35 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 02:18.57 | Cairenn | it isn't the same as the original, obviously, but it wasn't terrible |
| 02:19.10 | Tekkub | remakes should improve on the old one though, like Dune did |
| 02:19.33 | Seerah | oh yeah, I saw there was an Onion movie... |
| 02:20.19 | Tekkub | "When a spate of peculiar activities begins to occur in the Arizona desert, scientists Ernest Hubbs (Nigel Davenport) and James Lesko (Michael Murphy) investigate and discover a colony of highly intelligent ants bent on expanding their terrain -- and on conquering humanity." |
| 02:20.32 | Tekkub | sounds like a Sci-fi channel original... |
| 02:20.52 | Lopeppeppy | ... ants? |
| 02:21.04 | Seerah | video clip at imdb: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0392878/ |
| 02:27.16 | Tekkub | and the hubby's box just powered itsself off |
| 02:27.23 | Tekkub | powesupply is fucking hot |
| 02:27.36 | Tekkub | why is it always HIS computer that breaks? |
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| 02:28.33 | GhostfromTexas | ok need some help... let me type it up |
| 02:29.21 | GhostfromTexas | I have right click registerd to click on the AuctionsFrame.. and the addon works just fine for what it's supposed to do... so I am looking to add modifier keys.. such as "shift+right-click" etc |
| 02:29.52 | GhostfromTexas | doing the modifiers work fine on the browse frame.. but when I hold down shift.. it seems to not make the right click button work the way it's supposed to on the auctionsframe |
| 02:30.12 | Lopeppeppy | Pastey your code for people to look at? |
| 02:30.16 | GhostfromTexas | any reason why holding down shift/alt would make right click unregister why it's held down |
| 02:30.27 | GhostfromTexas | k hold on |
| 02:30.56 | GhostfromTexas | god damnit.. right as I was loading all of this up my raid wants me in for archie cuz they are having probs with the punk |
| 02:30.57 | GhostfromTexas | bah |
| 02:30.58 | GhostfromTexas | bbiab |
| 02:35.18 | Tekkub | We suggest "The Life of Birds" because you enjoyed "Red Dwarf" |
| 02:35.22 | Tekkub | stupid netflix |
| 02:42.26 | Corrodias | i take it "the life of birds" is not british comedy? |
| 02:43.16 | NightHawkTheSane | http://softwarcraft.com/2008/05/26/ask-calvins-dad/ |
| 02:46.59 | NightHawkTheSane | and also.. http://www.bunnyhero.org/2008/05/10/scaring-people-with-fullscreen/ |
| 02:47.53 | DARKGuy | omg |
| 02:47.55 | Cairenn | that sucks about the fire at Universal, hey? |
| 02:48.08 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, a lot of damage and scary |
| 02:51.03 | Tekkub | yea! fiiiiirrrrre fiiiiiiirrrrreeeeee |
| 02:51.40 | Tekkub | </beavis> |
| 02:52.05 | DARKGuy | has anybody been getting those "Cannot find an instance of LibSharedMedia-2.0" when using CooldownTimers or Hourglass ? |
| 02:52.09 | Corrodias | am i to assume the fullscreen thing is a bsod? |
| 02:52.41 | NightHawkTheSane | if by "is a bsod" you mean "sticks the image of one on your screen", sure. |
| 02:52.59 | Seerah | no, it's the real thing! |
| 02:53.02 | Tekkub | FLASH BAD! BEER GOOD! |
| 02:53.22 | Seerah | I actually was slightly confused for a split second upon seeing it though :P |
| 02:53.43 | Lopeppeppy | DARKGuy, if you're getting that errror... go download the library? |
| 02:54.01 | DARKGuy | Lopeppeppy, I did, it has no use. I also have 3.0 installed, SharedMedia and SharedMediaAdditionalFonts |
| 02:55.25 | Seerah | Check the TOC of CooldownTimers and Hourglass. Do they have LSM-2.0 listed as an opt dep? |
| 02:55.36 | Seerah | (first I should ask if you use embedded or not) |
| 02:55.47 | DARKGuy | Seerah, no, no embedded/externals |
| 02:56.04 | Seerah | so you use standalones? |
| 02:56.06 | Seerah | check the TOC |
| 02:56.06 | DARKGuy | ya |
| 02:56.28 | DARKGuy | Seerah, ## OptionalDeps: Ace2, PaintChipsLib, DewDropLib, TabletLib, CandyBar, SharedMediaLib, Deformat, FuBarPlugin-2.0, Waterfall-1.0, LibSharedMedia-2.0 :/ |
| 02:56.55 | DARKGuy | that's on CDT2 |
| 02:57.35 | DARKGuy | and what I have left to install for SharedMedia is LibSharedMedia-2.0 and SharedMedia-Blizzard |
| 02:57.46 | DARKGuy | I install LSM-2.0 and the error keeps going |
| 02:58.25 | Seerah | wait, you said that you had already installed LSM-2.0 |
| 02:58.28 | Seerah | ah |
| 02:58.41 | DARKGuy | :P I install it but the error keeps appearing |
| 02:58.42 | DARKGuy | :/ |
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| 03:00.36 | Lopeppeppy | Have you tried deleting the addons and downloading them *with* externals? |
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| 03:01.34 | DARKGuy | Lopeppeppy, no, I don't like my loading time to be longer than it already is :( |
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| 03:01.43 | DARKGuy | ... duh I'm dumb. |
| 03:02.05 | DARKGuy | it works now, stupid me :D |
| 03:02.21 | DARKGuy | I had it disabled for some strange reason. go me :( |
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| 03:04.18 | Lopeppeppy | DARKguy, the test of downloading with externals need not be permanent. You could have deleted the extra libraries afterward -- it was more to make sure that you had a chance at non-corrupted somethings or anothers. But now it's working, all is good. |
| 03:05.01 | DARKGuy | Lopeppeppy, well you're right on that, I guess I'll try that if I get a similar error someday ^_^ |
| 03:05.13 | DARKGuy | Hourglass is being stupid tho D: |
| 03:08.10 | DARKGuy | Yay I fixed it :D |
| 03:08.27 | DARKGuy | I wonder if the author would mind if I do a commit on his addon? :X |
| 03:09.44 | DARKGuy | Meh, it's broken anyways, I can't set a custom texture and the cooldown stays in the whole middle of the screen |
| 03:10.21 | Lopeppeppy | I had some issues with Hourglass post 2.4. I never did replace it with much of anything. |
| 03:10.52 | DARKGuy | So you still use it ? |
| 03:11.06 | Lopeppeppy | Nope |
| 03:11.20 | DARKGuy | What do you use then? |
| 03:11.40 | Lopeppeppy | Nothing. |
| 03:11.48 | DARKGuy | Oh... I see o.o |
| 03:12.15 | Lopeppeppy | I hear good things about the various class timers, but honestly, I don't PvP and my few cooldowns aren't hard to keep track of. |
| 03:12.29 | DARKGuy | Well that's a reason ^_^ |
| 03:12.47 | DARKGuy | I do PvP and I need to know the cooldown of my stun abilities (warrior) ^^ |
| 03:13.27 | DARKGuy | and since macros don't show multiple cooldowns using CoolDownCount, then I have to find a way to see it :P |
| 03:13.40 | DARKGuy | Gotta die with CDT2 tho :( |
| 03:27.07 | GhostfromTexas | ok let me paste my function hold on and re-explain my problem |
| 03:28.15 | GhostfromTexas | http://pastebin.com/m16d11a67 |
| 03:28.33 | GhostfromTexas | ok let me explain.. this is an easy way to cancel auctions |
| 03:28.43 | GhostfromTexas | it works perfectly fine in performing that function |
| 03:28.54 | GhostfromTexas | except wheN i want to do a modifier key to my options |
| 03:28.59 | GhostfromTexas | like shift+right-click etc |
| 03:29.03 | GhostfromTexas | default is just right-click |
| 03:29.38 | GhostfromTexas | apparently holding down shift or alt (the keys I want to use) make it where i can't register the right click button while it's held down |
| 03:29.54 | GhostfromTexas | the same modifier scenario works fine on the browseframe |
| 03:30.03 | GhostfromTexas | but apparently something on the auctions frame is causing it to be blocked |
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| 03:38.26 | GhostfromTexas | guess not :D |
| 03:38.37 | kaiden | Heya, is there an easy way to find an addon on wowi if all i have is the id # (8113) |
| 03:39.26 | kaiden | i have this addon listed in my auto-updater but i have the wrong name down for it and can't figure out what it is :P |
| 03:39.31 | |Jelly| | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=8113 |
| 03:39.38 | Seerah | GhostfromTexas: yes |
| 03:39.47 | kaiden | ah thanks Jelly! |
| 03:39.51 | Seerah | thanks, |Jelly| |
| 03:39.55 | Seerah | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7032 that works, too |
| 03:40.05 | GhostfromTexas | sup seerah |
| 03:40.40 | Seerah | ^^^ (well, replace 7032 with 8113) |
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| 04:03.11 | Seerah | do you still have to be lvl 58+ to go through the dark portal? |
| 04:03.22 | Lopeppeppy | Unless summoned, I believe so. |
| 04:03.52 | Lopeppeppy | G'night every people. |
| 04:04.07 | Seerah | I just remember arguing with someone who thought you had to be 57. Now I'm almost there with my alt >< |
| 04:04.32 | NightHawkTheSane | its 58 to physically step through the portal |
| 04:05.30 | Seerah | *nod* |
| 04:05.40 | Seerah | thanks, nhts |
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| 04:26.31 | kd3 | whee power blinks |
| 04:28.10 | ccox | UPS FTW |
| 04:28.51 | kd3 | doesn't help much if the uplink goes down for a few |
| 04:29.26 | ccox | true, UPS can't help your net connection |
| 04:29.47 | ccox | fortunately my phone and cable companies have their own power systems - so they stay up when the power blinks |
| 04:30.13 | ccox | and a couple of 1100VA UPS's handle my computers and displays |
| 04:30.34 | Thrae | When you get FiOS, you get a battery for the ONT for local power outages. |
| 04:31.04 | Thrae | I just ordered a 1100VA UPS for my router, VoIP, etc. Only $200. |
| 04:31.10 | Arrowmaster | perty sure you get something similar with cable if your cable company does voip too |
| 04:31.27 | Tekkub | FiOS... *pout* |
| 04:31.41 | kd3 | ^ |
| 04:32.07 | Thrae | I've only got 15mbit/2mbit |
| 04:32.13 | ccox | I picked mine up at Fry's for US$100 each |
| 04:32.13 | Arrowmaster | although it doesnt help that almost everybody uses wireless phones for their home phones and if the basestation doesnt have power it wont work |
| 04:32.36 | Thrae | ccox: What brand? |
| 04:32.45 | ccox | Thrae - Belkin |
| 04:32.51 | Tekkub | how much that cost Thrae? |
| 04:33.07 | Tekkub | $33/mo for cable here... think we get 8m/768 |
| 04:33.15 | ccox | http://shop2.frys.com/search?search_type=regular&sqxts=1&query_string=belkin+UPS&cat=&submit.x=0&submit.y=0 |
| 04:33.46 | kd3 | ah, to live in a big city... $33/mo in statesboro's ~2/256 |
| 04:33.50 | ccox | either the price has gone up a little, or I got them on sale and forgot about it... |
| 04:34.18 | Tekkub | kd3, DSL? |
| 04:34.23 | kd3 | cable |
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| 04:34.31 | kd3 | dsl's more expensive for that |
| 04:34.35 | Tekkub | that's odd, I've never seen cable that low |
| 04:34.48 | kd3 | you ever hear of a provider called "northland"? |
| 04:34.52 | Tekkub | nope :) |
| 04:34.54 | kd3 | that's why |
| 04:36.41 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: Which is why my basestation is connected to the UPS. My basestation can also connect to bluetooth-capable cell phones, allowing you to dial out on your cell phone using the base station. Makes things easier if the Internet's out. |
| 04:37.04 | Arrowmaster | wow hightech |
| 04:37.16 | Tekkub | WTB FiOS or DOCSIS3.0 PST! |
| 04:37.25 | Thrae | Errr, using any wireless phone paired to the base station I mean |
| 04:37.31 | Arrowmaster | considering i dont even have a wireless phone in this house besides cell phones |
| 04:37.36 | ccox | ...until your cell tower generator runs out of gas. |
| 04:37.47 | DARKGuy | haha |
| 04:38.02 | Thrae | Tekkub: 15mbit/2mbit costs $50/month here in MD |
| 04:38.09 | Tekkub | we have VoIP, sometimes I wonder why |
| 04:38.30 | Thrae | That's the 2nd tier, the lowest tier is 5mbit/1mbit or 8mbit/1mbit I believe |
| 04:38.32 | Tekkub | at least it's only $10/mo |
| 04:39.02 | Tekkub | Thrae, that only net or other services too? |
| 04:39.18 | Thrae | Only net, you save if you get all their services of course. |
| 04:39.46 | Tekkub | well right now we're at $43/mo for net and voip... and of course we don't have TV at all |
| 04:39.51 | Thrae | But I just use BroadVoice for ~$18/month (VoIP Provider). They also let me run my own Asterisk server if you want |
| 04:40.00 | Tekkub | not that fios will ever be here :P |
| 04:40.05 | Thrae | Well I think the lowest tier is like $33/month |
| 04:40.33 | Tekkub | yea we could go second tier on the cable but we have no need |
| 04:40.56 | Thrae | I do a lot of torrenting instead of paying for cable. Mostly anime. |
| 04:41.03 | Thrae | My grandfather has only basic cable. |
| 04:41.19 | Tekkub | our TV shows download within a day of release and reach 110% ratio within 2 normally |
| 04:41.33 | Tekkub | that's exactly what we do |
| 04:41.46 | Tekkub | uTorrent + RSS == better than TiVo |
| 04:43.07 | ccox | Tekk - nope, guess you haven't owned a TiVO |
| 04:43.34 | ccox | Tekkub - recording or downloading shows is only about 20% of it's value |
| 04:43.48 | Thrae | Damn, I wanted to see how much FiOS was in my area, but apparently it's not available in my area...and I have it? |
| 04:43.57 | Tekkub | I've built my own... what's the other 80% |
| 04:44.17 | NightHawkTheSane | being uppity about owning a tivo? |
| 04:44.18 | Tekkub | cause that 20% is crap when you consider that only 1/3 of the shows we download even AIR in the US |
| 04:44.18 | |Jelly| | porn |
| 04:44.18 | ccox | Hey, even in Silicon Valley you can't get fiber service without going commercial rates |
| 04:44.49 | Thrae | Oh wait, wrong area code |
| 04:44.51 | Tekkub | so that's what 6.66% of the advantage is recording shows... |
| 04:45.04 | Thrae | Now the page is just unable to determine if it's available |
| 04:45.20 | ccox | Tekkub - the rest of the service: tracking shows (including updating when they change schedules), finding shows that you might like, etc. |
| 04:45.34 | Tekkub | tracking shows, my PVR did that |
| 04:45.35 | |Jelly| | BIG BROTHER! |
| 04:45.47 | Thrae | I work like 10 hours per day and sometimes weekends, I barely have time to watch the TV I download |
| 04:45.49 | Tekkub | finding new shows... requires good shows to actually be produced |
| 04:45.52 | ccox | Tekkub - if you haven't seen how well the TiVO does it, you won't get it |
| 04:46.10 | Tekkub | Snapstream.... same EPG data |
| 04:46.12 | Tekkub | :P |
| 04:46.19 | ccox | Tekkub - after people have used a TiVO for a while, they usually hate other DVRs |
| 04:46.52 | Thrae | I like my PVR more then TiVO. |
| 04:46.55 | ccox | Tekkub - that's where TiVO shines, finding stuff on odd cable channels (including channels I never heard of) |
| 04:47.00 | Tekkub | see here's the thing you're not hearing... I only have about 6 shows that AIR IN THE US |
| 04:47.18 | Thrae | Sice it's a HTPC. |
| 04:47.47 | Tekkub | Thrae, I liked mine, but I like RSS'd torrents more enough that I dropped recoding the shows altogether |
| 04:47.48 | ccox | Tekkub - yeah, and? I get most of my shows from BBC, Japan, etc. |
| 04:48.15 | Tekkub | and? and I can't record shit that doesn't air here |
| 04:48.16 | ccox | Tekkub - if they're not on cable at all, well, then torrents are your only choice |
| 04:48.30 | NightHawkTheSane | I think that's his point.. |
| 04:48.40 | Tekkub | *ding* *ding* *ding* *ding* *ding* *ding* *ding* *ding* |
| 04:48.42 | ccox | um, apparently you mean "air == shows on cable" |
| 04:48.46 | |Jelly| | TAKE THAT YOU DEAD HORSE! |
| 04:48.57 | ccox | I mean "air = broadcast over the air", like it's meant for the past 70 yearsr |
| 04:49.01 | Tekkub | and for bonus: the torrents are better quality and ads are cut out so I don't have to try to fastforward |
| 04:49.27 | Tekkub | "shows that are aired in the US" == I can make my TV tune them somehow |
| 04:49.44 | Tekkub | cable, OTA, sat, whatever |
| 04:50.10 | Seerah | nn all :) |
| 04:50.10 | Thrae | Mmmm, 1080P torrents |
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| 04:50.39 | Thrae | Too bad they're so rare =/ I usually get 480P or 720P |
| 04:50.56 | Tekkub | Find me Robin Hood, Dr Who, Torchwood (not aired a season behind) and any anime in JP that a tivo in Denver could record, and your arguement might have some weight :P |
| 04:51.12 | Tekkub | Thrae, 480p >> 320i |
| 04:51.23 | ccox | Tekkub - you must have really crap cable in Denver |
| 04:51.24 | Thrae | Lost Seasons 1-4 are on my raid5 in 1080P! |
| 04:51.49 | Tekkub | ccox, same crap we had in AR |
| 04:52.00 | Tekkub | US TV is just shit |
| 04:52.02 | Tekkub | taht's all |
| 04:52.04 | ccox | Tekkub - BBC America is half to a full season behind (sometimes more if another network licenses it as well) |
| 04:52.13 | Thrae | I'm ready for IPTV. |
| 04:52.15 | ccox | Tekkub - cox? OMG they suck |
| 04:52.28 | Tekkub | yup, ccox, you suck |
| 04:52.35 | ccox | No relation :-) |
| 04:52.38 | Tekkub | and yes, I loved saying "We have Cox at home" |
| 04:52.49 | Thrae | ccox: No no, wrong order |
| 04:53.08 | Thrae | "Tekkub: OMG, you suck cox" |
| 04:53.22 | Tekkub | and anything beyond "the day after it aired" is totally unacceptable in this day and age :P |
| 04:53.25 | ccox | Tekkub - and I'm glad to hear that you escaped from Arkansas |
| 04:53.40 | Tekkub | yea, even summer in CO is too much for me |
| 04:53.54 | Tekkub | in AR I got a job at an ice cream store so I could hide in the milk room all day |
| 04:53.57 | ccox | Tekkub - I hope the culture shock wasn't that hard on you once you crossed the border |
| 04:54.08 | Thrae | I heard there was less pig squeeling when Tekkub left. |
| 04:54.11 | Tekkub | into AR? I made fun of everyone |
| 04:54.24 | ccox | Tekkub - yeah, but in AR, they didn't get it |
| 04:54.28 | Tekkub | all the school busses said "Fort Smith Special School Dist" |
| 04:54.36 | Tekkub | I snickered every time I saw one |
| 04:55.04 | ccox | (My parents are in Bentonville --- visiting can be painful) |
| 04:55.44 | Tekkub | heh, that was the one thing we never did while we were there, Bentonville and Rogers for Wally #001 |
| 04:55.48 | ccox | Tekkub- the culture shock when leaving has to be worse |
| 04:55.58 | Tekkub | what shock? |
| 04:56.04 | ccox | Tekkub - at least when you go into AR you recognize that it's just 50 years backwards |
| 04:56.23 | ccox | Tekkub - but when someone from AR leaves, imagine their shock at what's happened to the rest of the world |
| 04:56.34 | Tekkub | right... |
| 04:57.09 | ccox | Tekkub - you should see the mainframe exhibit at walmart's IT department |
| 04:57.23 | ccox | oh, wait - that's not a museum, they're actually still using them! |
| 04:57.32 | ccox | (really, no lie) |
| 04:58.16 | Tekkub | I'm sure, I knew a bear that programmed for em, and I've used their system before |
| 04:58.19 | Tekkub | scary shit |
| 04:59.13 | Tekkub | we'll run XP embedded on a thin client that runs a terminal emulator to connect to the early 70's unix system! |
| 04:59.30 | Tekkub | that's fucking state of the art to run something that old on something so new |
| 04:59.30 | ccox | Tekk - yep |
| 05:00.08 | ccox | Tekk - and they wanted to run Excel and Access without local disks (give everyone the thinnest client possible - makes it easier to support!) |
| 05:00.15 | Tekkub | we hear that banks have some big network they use to talk to each other, we'le trying to get that to work with our stores |
| 05:00.44 | ccox | Tekk - supposedly they are improving, now that they can't hire any more dinosaurs |
| 05:00.59 | Tekkub | that way we can control the heat in a store in CO to make sure it never gets colder than the current outside temp in AR |
| 05:01.47 | ccox | Tekk - those youngsters have new ideas about blades, and load balancing, and databases that don't need programmers to operate them... |
| 05:01.56 | ccox | Sigh. |
| 05:02.03 | ccox | It would be funny if it weren't real. |
| 05:02.42 | ccox | Of course, the lecture I got on how black people were ruining the postal service (from a lady working at the post office) was also real |
| 05:02.48 | ccox | real scary |
| 05:02.52 | Tekkub | lol |
| 05:03.17 | ccox | I'm like "just give me my stamps and let me run away NOW" |
| 05:04.07 | _rane | with what addon can you change the player names floating above people? |
| 05:04.21 | Thunder_Child | aloft |
| 05:04.54 | _rane | i'm not talking about nameplates |
| 05:05.07 | _rane | *sigh* :D |
| 05:05.08 | Arrowmaster | then no |
| 05:05.19 | _rane | no? |
| 05:05.20 | Thunder_Child | thats part of the 3D enviornment then isnt it? |
| 05:05.32 | _rane | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/may/7kj_if.jpg |
| 05:05.52 | Tekkub | okey, for a woot, woot's crap today... but as for pool tech, that's actually pretty damn cool |
| 05:06.01 | Thunder_Child | font changer then? |
| 05:06.02 | Arrowmaster | _rane: what about it? |
| 05:06.06 | Tekkub | keeping up chlorine levels can be a pain in the ass |
| 05:06.19 | Thunder_Child | Tekkub, but not a $700 |
| 05:06.27 | _rane | Arrowmaster: different font? |
| 05:06.37 | Arrowmaster | clearfont2 |
| 05:06.46 | Arrowmaster | you cant change the text content though |
| 05:06.58 | Tekkub | Thunder_Child, you know how much chlorine costs? Granted you probably spend similar on the salt... |
| 05:07.01 | Thunder_Child | s/a/at/ |
| 05:07.18 | Thunder_Child | Tekkub, nope not a clue |
| 05:07.53 | Tekkub | pool I maintained... small apt complx pool... Cl tablets were $50 a bucket, lasted ~ a week and a half |
| 05:08.10 | Tekkub | shok was I think $35 a bucket, used one a week easily |
| 05:08.14 | Tekkub | *shock |
| 05:09.02 | Tekkub | so for 4 months of operation... $1000? |
| 05:09.36 | Tekkub | granted that was AR and outdoors, I bet the pool here goes thru a lot less since it's indoors |
| 05:11.23 | Thunder_Child | hmm...i dunno then, though the odds of the Cl breaking down is prolly lower than the complex electronic instrument |
| 05:11.59 | Tekkub | Cl breaks down in sunlight quite quickly, that's why we went thru so much :) |
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| 05:34.02 | _rane | Arrowmaster: it doesn't seem to have effect on that specific font |
| 05:34.35 | _rane | but damn this Francophil Sans is a nice font |
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| 06:21.41 | Arrowmaster | _rane: oh i think you have to used the advanced method for changing that font |
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| 07:46.03 | DARKGuy | you guys like my UI? :D -> http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/5472/wowscrnshot060208031019po4.jpg |
| 07:48.30 | Sixen | Nice. |
| 07:51.36 | DARKGuy | ^_^ ty |
| 07:53.50 | Elkano | I like at least some parts of it ;) |
| 07:54.39 | DARKGuy | lol Elkano, you rule :P |
| 07:55.35 | Elkano | ^^ |
| 07:57.17 | DARKGuy | hey Elkano, is there any way to make the time appear also right after the name & rank? |
| 07:57.41 | Elkano | besides hacking it in, no |
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| 07:59.29 | DARKGuy | Aww |
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| 08:01.20 | Elkano | besides that, I don't see why someone would want it there since you would either have nonaligned times or names jumping around |
| 08:02.53 | DARKGuy | it could be a fixed space |
| 08:03.09 | DARKGuy | say, text like in my screenshot, then a small 20-30px space where time will fit in, then icon |
| 08:03.24 | DARKGuy | like |
| 08:03.42 | DARKGuy | [ omg buff][ 22m][^_^] |
| 08:04.58 | Elkano | the problem is that time isn't fixed width so the name would be jumping around |
| 08:06.08 | DARKGuy | Hm, I don't really know how EBB is made. Is that just a bar with text over it... right? so it isn't like a frame (bar) with two+ frames on top where text is shown? |
| 08:06.46 | DARKGuy | kinda like quartz. I'd imagine two texts, right-justified, but the name text have a 5-10 space trail at the right |
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| 08:07.58 | DARKGuy | so it's like, name: "Prayer of Fortitude II " and the time will be "8m". If both text are placed in the same spot, right-justified, the effect will work :D |
| 08:15.09 | wereHamster | DARKGuy: fixed-width font and string.format("% 2d", timeleft) |
| 08:15.20 | wereHamster | or even "% 2.2f" |
| 08:15.48 | wereHamster | then it won't jump around |
| 08:15.59 | Elkano | no, it's a 2x2 text matrix where each text is anchored to one corner and text in the same line are anchored to eachother and will be resized in width according to the amount of text |
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| 08:18.15 | DARKGuy | wereHamster, yeah fixed width could work with that... I think o.o |
| 08:18.15 | DARKGuy | mm |
| 08:18.15 | DARKGuy | *tries something* |
| 08:19.29 | wereHamster | the only problem I see is the h/m/s suffix, that makes the alignment somewhat hard, but maybe not impossible. Does wow allow to get the text/fontstring extents? |
| 08:19.57 | DARKGuy | Well text top-right and bottom-right work, however top-right doesn't seem to resize to leave space for bottom-right to be shown, so they're overlapped |
| 08:21.52 | DARKGuy | wereHamster, I don't think so, well, not that I know of |
| 08:21.58 | DARKGuy | I'm very novice at text stuff @ wow |
| 08:24.56 | wereHamster | I once did such alignment for a gtk app, see the 'time left' column in this screenshot, the numbers are aligned, and the variable-length suffix after that. http://dbservice.com/ftpdir/tom/Transmission-transparency-3.png |
| 08:27.24 | Elkano | wereHamster, there is a function :GetTextWidth which (at least for untouched strings) returns the width... but a fs:SetWidth(fs:GetTextWidth()) forces wrapping for me so it seems to be too small |
| 08:28.12 | Elkano | DARKGuy, top and bottom aren't anchored to eachother since fonts are fixedheight |
| 08:33.14 | DARKGuy | Elkano, well, but there could be an option to add extra spaces (called as offset maybe?) to the left or right of such text :D |
| 08:33.55 | DARKGuy | wereHamster, hey, that's sexy :O |
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| 08:53.36 | Elkano | DARKGuy, I'm in the process of revising the whole font system for the next version anyways |
| 08:55.39 | DARKGuy | Elkano, oh, there's gonna be a new version too? sweet :D |
| 08:58.50 | Corrodias | all fonts will be... REVISED |
| 08:59.45 | Elkano | DARKGuy, it's almost done :) ...in my head :/ |
| 09:00.40 | DARKGuy | lol Elkano |
| 09:01.21 | DARKGuy | Sometimes it's good to put stuff on paper and then do it on code |
| 09:01.24 | DARKGuy | it helps ^_^ |
| 09:01.27 | DARKGuy | I'm off to bed though :D |
| 09:01.35 | DARKGuy | wb cladhaire |
| 09:01.41 | DARKGuy | Nighty! :D |
| 09:01.42 | cladhaire | tx? |
| 09:01.45 | DARKGuy | :P |
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| 11:01.16 | Wobin | pft |
| 11:01.24 | Wobin | It's so difficult to change nicks if you're not registered |
| 11:01.28 | Wobin | and you can't register unless you're using the right nick |
| 11:04.00 | Kaso | really? why cant you just /nick ? |
| 11:04.12 | Wobin | It tells me I can't send to the channel therefore I cannot change nick |
| 11:04.33 | Kaso | quit channels , nick change, register, done# |
| 11:04.45 | Wobin | so complicated |
| 11:05.02 | Kaso | problem is because we're +R here :< |
| 11:05.17 | Wobin | as is every other channel I'm on =) |
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| 11:11.07 | Nom- | meh i think thaurissan just fell over... right in the middle of an awesome AV too :( |
| 11:24.18 | Nom- | hmm did the blizz datacentre just go kaputski ? |
| 11:24.32 | Nom- | Can't even get to the forums, but everything else is workign (net wise) |
| 11:25.30 | Nom- | ah damnit, our battlegroup died i think.. the forums too... some servers are working, all in my battlegroup are not |
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| 11:37.27 | Drundia | Wobin, just register all your nicks and you can do it while in +R channel |
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| 11:38.44 | Wobin | Drundia, I've got most of them |
| 11:38.46 | Wobin | except wobster |
| 11:38.59 | nevcairiel | you know what to do, then? :) |
| 11:39.13 | Wobin | eat cake? |
| 11:39.20 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 11:39.27 | nevcairiel | but only if you share |
| 11:39.34 | Wobin | It's a very small cake |
| 11:39.38 | Wobin | a ca even |
| 11:56.00 | Snago | lol @ visa card scammers spelling "you" with "u" :P |
| 12:06.23 | Kaso | Snago seriously? thats rediculous |
| 12:08.55 | Elkano | giev card detailz! must do confirmationz on your accountz!!1! Hurry! |
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| 12:27.59 | Nom- | Anyone seen any forum posts about the connectivity loss ? |
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| 12:35.01 | Lunessa | station |
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| 13:39.24 | Shirik | mode Shirik +w |
| 13:39.30 | Shirik | >.> |
| 13:44.16 | wereHamster | what's +w? |
| 13:49.31 | Shirik | show wallops |
| 13:49.55 | Shirik | occasionally freenode staff put out semi-important messages there just to let us know what's going on, and I'm curious :) |
| 13:51.23 | Shirik | so I convinced the guys at my work to let me embed Lua in this application I'm writing :D they don't know C++ at all and they need a configurable means of collecting data. What better to write collection callbacks than in Lua |
| 13:51.49 | Kalroth | You go, girl! |
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| 13:56.35 | durcyn | pfth. /umode |
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| 14:07.20 | Josh_Borke | ~emulate Josh_Borke |
| 14:07.20 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn |
| 14:16.49 | Lunessa | shouldn't that command be ~brown-nose? |
| 14:17.00 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, frosty. |
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| 14:18.09 | Lunessa | I'm feeling my cheerios this morning. |
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| 14:20.00 | Lopeppeppy | I had.... cheerios too! OMG, we're twins or something! *fake Valley Girl cheers* |
| 14:20.42 | Lunessa | like totally fer sure fer sure. |
| 14:22.17 | Lunessa | I mean, like, I'm from like, a really good part of like, Encino. |
| 14:23.37 | Lopeppeppy | Wow... you're so cool! |
| 14:24.40 | Lunessa | Moonunit Zappa... her one hit. |
| 14:24.58 | Lopeppeppy | I'll raise you a Flock of Seagulls |
| 14:25.40 | Lunessa | ... Don't make me break out Thomson Twins |
| 14:25.55 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, no, please! I always wanted their hair! |
| 14:26.28 | Lunessa | I'll get all INXS up in here. |
| 14:27.29 | Lopeppeppy | How about Madness? Talk about your one-hit-who-knows-them! |
| 14:27.43 | Lunessa | Our House.. In the middle of our street. |
| 14:28.35 | sacarasc | madness were quite big in the uk |
| 14:29.20 | Lopeppeppy | Us US people weren't so lucky, or were more picky, or were high on hair spray fumes... |
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| 14:33.36 | Lunessa | Madness, Midnight Oil, INXS, ... ah... the 80s. |
| 14:34.40 | Lopeppeppy | It was great to be alive back then. |
| 14:34.48 | Lopeppeppy | Sadly I'm dead now, music doesn't effect me so much anymore. |
| 14:35.56 | Lunessa | Music, code and games are all I have left. |
| 14:36.57 | Lopeppeppy | I have some candied brains, excellent vintage in 1986! |
| 14:37.36 | Lunessa | ... do you still hear the lambs, Clarice? |
| 14:38.04 | Lopeppeppy | No foolin', I was quoting that movie in my LJ this weekend. :) |
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| 14:39.34 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Seerah |
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| 15:11.28 | Lopeppeppy | Hey, what about Zyuu? Tackle his fish-wielding happy self! |
| 15:12.12 | Lopeppeppy | Dog pile on Zyuu! |
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| 15:13.56 | Seerah | watch the elbows! ;) |
| 15:14.35 | Lopeppeppy | Oops, sorry lady-dear! |
| 15:16.26 | zenzelezz | oh, the thought of peppy and Seerah piling up... |
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| 15:16.39 | Seerah | ~lart zenzelezz |
| 15:16.39 | purl | shoots zenzelezz in the head |
| 15:16.48 | Seerah | ~lart Lunessa |
| 15:16.48 | purl | plops Lunessa into a giant vat of herring |
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| 15:16.57 | zenzelezz | see peppy? This is why I don't include them by default |
| 15:17.12 | Seerah | ? |
| 15:17.22 | Lunessa | herring. blech. |
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| 15:20.07 | Lopeppeppy | Include what, zenzelezz? |
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| 15:21.36 | Seerah | ~failrah |
| 15:21.37 | purl | FAIL, Seerah FAIL! |
| 15:21.43 | Seerah | sorry, peppy |
| 15:22.05 | Lopeppeppy | That's okay, Seerah. |Jelly| could be fun to cuddle for a while. But you'll always be in my heart! |
| 15:22.15 | Seerah | yay |
| 15:22.40 | |Jelly| | ownt imo |
| 15:23.54 | Lopeppeppy | Nah. Here's a secret... I prefer boys to girls, but don't tell Seerah, I don't want to hurt her feelings. |
| 15:24.17 | Seerah | that's okay, peppy... I'm married |
| 15:24.30 | zenzelezz | that's just because we're so easy to manipulate |
| 15:24.51 | |Jelly| | Peppy likes to party. |
| 15:25.22 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz, the best partners are the ones that are hardest to manipulate. I like someone who knows their own minds. And who likes to party, as Jelly says. |
| 15:25.55 | Lunessa | So who brings the stick of butter? |
| 15:26.12 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: then I can't see why you like guys |
| 15:27.16 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz, it's all about Tab A and Slot A. |
| 15:27.44 | Lunessa | Insert Tab A into Slot B. Repeat. |
| 15:28.52 | zenzelezz | that's a different kind of "like" |
| 15:29.40 | Lopeppeppy | It's a whole different cuddle style between boys and girls, zenzelezz. I can cuddle my girlfriends, but it doesn't satisfy the deeper affection needs the same way. *grin* |
| 15:30.51 | cog|work | Lopeppeppy: can i watch though? |
| 15:31.26 | Lopeppeppy | If you want to watch me cuddle Jelly, ask him. |
| 15:31.42 | Lopeppeppy | I don't mind, but he might be shy. |
| 15:32.26 | cog|work | no the "girlfriends" ;) |
| 15:32.59 | Lopeppeppy | Talk to Lunessa. He can hook you up. |
| 15:33.23 | Lopeppeppy | And thanks guys, I needed a lot of silly after my weekend, this was awesome. |
| 15:33.58 | cog|work | i need some muscle relaxants as well... we just moved every large thing out of our house yesterday |
| 15:34.21 | Lunessa | oooo... into the new place. |
| 15:34.28 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, darlin'. *gentle hugs* That's me in 3 weeks. |
| 15:34.33 | cog|work | no... just to the PODS |
| 15:34.33 | Lunessa | Fat Tire beer = muscle relaxant. |
| 15:34.43 | cog|work | don't get keys until today or tomorrow |
| 15:34.54 | Lunessa | Been to closing? |
| 15:34.55 | Lopeppeppy | So how did you move things into it without keys? *is confuzled* |
| 15:35.07 | cog|work | Lunessa: yep. had our signingasm on Friday |
| 15:35.18 | Lunessa | rawk. |
| 15:35.22 | cog|work | Lopeppeppy: 08:34 <+cog|work> no... just to the PODS |
| 15:36.00 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, the POD-thing. *nod* |
| 15:36.13 | cog|work | They'll be moving it to the house tomorrow |
| 15:36.26 | cog|work | (that reminds me i need to check the eta) |
| 15:37.55 | Lopeppeppy | Always good to know, Cogwheel. |
| 15:38.06 | Lopeppeppy | I'm thinking of renting a storage unit to start moving some of my boxes out, I'm that damned impatient.... |
| 15:40.03 | Seerah | grats on the new place, finally, cog :) |
| 15:41.06 | Seerah | man, I keep wanting a house.... hubby's too scared of the economy (he was an economics major -.- ), isn't sure how long he'll be in this area for work, etc. :( |
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| 15:41.51 | Seerah | my puppy needs a yard and room to have a puppy brother or sister, and I need a yard to not have to take him on walks, and a guest bedroom, and maybe a future nursery or something.... /sigh |
| 15:42.38 | Lopeppeppy | I'm terrified of buying/owning a house. Just terrified. |
| 15:44.23 | Seerah | I'm starting to get restless about settling down, if that makes sense |
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| 15:45.03 | Seerah | the parents of some of the kids I teach are younger than me now |
| 15:45.20 | Seerah | and I'm not used to that |
| 15:45.34 | cog|work | heh |
| 15:45.43 | Lopeppeppy | I'd like to be more settled, but buying a house is a nightmare, from everyone I've watched do it, it sucks major. |
| 15:45.50 | cog|work | nah |
| 15:46.00 | cog|work | it's only a nightmare for a couple months |
| 15:46.17 | cog|work | definitely worth not throwing your money away into someone else's pockets |
| 15:46.20 | cog|work | (entirely) |
| 15:47.27 | Lopeppeppy | I'm a scared little rabbit, I'll rent a while longer. Besides, I'm half-certain I'm going to move somewhere radical at the end of my current lease. |
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| 15:50.50 | Lunessa | I've owned 4 houses. I want to do it again. Just can't on my current budget and credit. |
| 15:51.17 | Lopeppeppy | House owning sucks. Someone else must mow my lawns! Rawr! |
| 15:51.36 | cog|work | Lopeppeppy: condo imo |
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| 15:51.52 | Lunessa | Townhouse + lawn service. |
| 15:52.02 | Seerah | or house + lawn service |
| 15:52.07 | Seerah | tons of people do that around here |
| 15:52.15 | Lopeppeppy | Apartment and they take care of it all! |
| 15:52.38 | Seerah | my apartment complex hires the same lawn service that lots of people hire for their houses :P |
| 15:53.09 | cog|work | condo associations usually take care of landscaping |
| 15:53.34 | Lunessa | So do some housing associations. |
| 15:53.40 | cog|work | true |
| 15:53.50 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, that might be something to look into after I figure out where I want to be in a year and a month. Likely not here, that's for sure. |
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| 16:16.44 | Lunessa | LOL... <A Guild Named Slickback> |
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| 16:20.46 | Lunessa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2m1QvLYVOA |
| 16:22.04 | Lunessa | ... language |
| 16:23.31 | Lopeppeppy | oooh, grampa is a bad one. |
| 16:25.00 | Lunessa | I am "A Priestess Named Lunessa", you say the whole thing like "A Tribe Called Quest" |
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| 16:26.48 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* I knew a girl like that once, she always introduced herself as "Anne Savage" like it was one word. |
| 16:27.53 | Lunessa | I knew a guy in college who spoke about himself in the third person. Got old f-a-s-t. |
| 16:28.24 | Lopeppeppy | Elmo thinks Elmo should nip out back and shoot himself in the head. |
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| 16:29.31 | Lopeppeppy | Or Peppy will just help him along a bit.... |
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| 16:54.23 | DARKGuy | mornin' :) |
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| 17:11.25 | Lunessa | I'm learning to fly... but I ain't got wings.. |
| 17:11.54 | Lopeppeppy | Coming down is the hardest thing. |
| 17:12.36 | Shirik | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:12.54 | DARKGuy | ... rofl |
| 17:13.21 | Shirik | ok so I come back, and I have 10 emails in my mailbox |
| 17:13.31 | Shirik | so I'm like "wtf" and open up each one of them and all it says is "Aye" |
| 17:13.36 | Lunessa | Tom Petty FTW |
| 17:13.37 | DARKGuy | haha |
| 17:13.42 | Shirik | apparently we had a vote and everyone decided to reply to all... |
| 17:14.35 | Lopeppeppy | Wonder what you voted on? |
| 17:15.07 | Shirik | bowling, lol |
| 17:15.28 | Shirik | we went bowling last friday and someone wanted a rematch |
| 17:15.29 | cog|work | poor overclock3d.net |
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| 17:15.51 | cog|work | http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/06/02/1446222 |
| 17:16.31 | DARKGuy | haha, unintentional DDoS |
| 17:17.22 | Lunessa | So, last night I tried out Vista's "Improve your performance" feature, and it turns out I was running the WoW torrent client in the background at Windows Start. Amazing how much that little checkbox on the launcher affected performance on my entire machine. |
| 17:17.47 | DARKGuy | No! |
| 17:17.52 | DARKGuy | Vista is lying! |
| 17:17.54 | DARKGuy | it always lies! |
| 17:17.57 | DARKGuy | come on! |
| 17:18.16 | Adys | http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2008-06-02-n49.html thats awesome |
| 17:18.18 | DARKGuy | ... wait, where is that "Improve your performance" feature? :O |
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| 17:19.10 | Lunessa | Basically it evaluate what's running and offers config suggestions for improving performance. |
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| 17:19.47 | DARKGuy | Well, duh, but where can you find it o_o |
| 17:19.58 | DARKGuy | I've had Vista for like 3 months and haven't found it yet oO |
| 17:20.15 | Lunessa | The same control panel that gives you the Experience number. |
| 17:20.15 | cog|work | i'd assume the control panel |
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| 17:20.24 | Lunessa | I forget the name of it. |
| 17:20.31 | DARKGuy | Oh... |
| 17:20.42 | DARKGuy | I think I've seen it, I thought it'd take me to some M$ spam site |
| 17:20.55 | cog|work | ahh prejudice |
| 17:21.03 | cog|work | the old standby |
| 17:21.14 | Lunessa | It pointed out a couple of handy things, like turn off window transparency and stop apps that were running needlessly at start up. |
| 17:21.28 | DARKGuy | hey, Vista is not Vista without Aero :( |
| 17:21.46 | Shirik | I like Aero :( |
| 17:21.53 | cog|work | I like aero too |
| 17:21.56 | Shirik | just because it looks fun |
| 17:21.58 | Shirik | and not boring |
| 17:22.01 | Lunessa | I am doing Aero. Just without the transparent realtime morphing for window frames. |
| 17:22.10 | cog|work | i hate where they put the close/maximize buttons in the basic theme |
| 17:22.13 | Shirik | that's the best part! |
| 17:22.13 | Lunessa | And I like the graphite look better. |
| 17:22.23 | DARKGuy | Aero doesn't slow the system anyways. I tried WoW with and without Aero, windowed, fullscreen and windowed+fullscreen and the FPS is the same |
| 17:22.32 | Shirik | DARKGuy: 60fps? |
| 17:22.34 | cog|work | DARKGuy: you're probably vsyncing then |
| 17:22.35 | Lunessa | I liked it for a week or so Shirik but after that, I didn't really care. |
| 17:22.38 | Shirik | ~cookie cog|work |
| 17:22.46 | DARKGuy | Shirik: no, my PC is always 20-30 constant anywhere :( |
| 17:22.52 | cog|work | same |
| 17:22.56 | DARKGuy | it goes like 15 sometimes when in heavy graphic work |
| 17:23.00 | cog|work | it's being throttled by vsync most likely |
| 17:23.09 | cog|work | it's always going to be some factor of 60 |
| 17:23.09 | Shirik | I agree with cog|work (hence the reason for me asking if it was 60fps) |
| 17:23.23 | DARKGuy | Well yeah |
| 17:23.24 | Lunessa | Yeah. Under vista with a solid GPU you can turn of VSync unless you're getting aritfacts. |
| 17:23.26 | zenzelezz | if your monitor has 30 Hz refresh rate, I pity you |
| 17:23.26 | cog|work | if you uncheck vertical sync, you'll see how it's actually rendering |
| 17:23.37 | DARKGuy | zenzelezz: I have a TV which has a 30hz refresh rate :D |
| 17:24.00 | DARKGuy | I use it for MCE <.<... >.>... |
| 17:24.21 | DARKGuy | cog|work: well I have it enabled because I use triple buffering, seems to speed up my FPS a lot |
| 17:25.00 | cog|work | try it without either |
| 17:25.16 | DARKGuy | does it help? :O |
| 17:25.18 | cog|work | i can't use triple buffering because my monitor already has about 50ms of input lag :( |
| 17:25.40 | DARKGuy | LCD? o.o |
| 17:25.59 | cog|work | yeah :( it's kinda sad |
| 17:26.12 | DARKGuy | ouch |
| 17:26.12 | cog|work | if i move a window around on both monitors at once, you can see the big one lagging behind |
| 17:26.15 | DARKGuy | I have CRT :P |
| 17:26.16 | DARKGuy | oww |
| 17:26.26 | cog|work | it's not because of being lcd |
| 17:26.30 | cog|work | it's the monitor itself |
| 17:26.32 | cog|work | the other one works fine |
| 17:27.42 | DARKGuy | Ohh... wonder what it might be :/ |
| 17:27.51 | DARKGuy | I'll AFK for 30 mins tho, lunch :P |
| 17:28.09 | Shirik | so I have a question for you guys - I have a coworker that needs to use my code when I'm gone. He knows PIC assembly but doesn't know C++. Am I justified in using Lua to allow him to script new components? (Do you think it would be easier for him?) |
| 17:28.47 | Shirik | because he doesn't know Lua either so he would have to learn a new language |
| 17:28.51 | cog|work | it would surely be easier for him to pick up than C++ imo |
| 17:29.59 | cog|work | but picking up C++ isn't exactly a bad idea |
| 17:30.12 | Shirik | my idea is that he can make all the Lua files he wants, so long as they're in a specific folder they'll be detected automatically. He has to create a table with at least two functions and return that from file scope to register it |
| 17:30.15 | Lunessa | Lua syntax is much simpler to learn quickly than C++ |
| 17:30.49 | Shirik | and with Lua he can't (horribly) break anything |
| 17:31.06 | zenzelezz | yes it can |
| 17:31.13 | Shirik | cog|work: Thing is, he's an EE, not software, so I don't think he will, though I do advocate him picking it up :) |
| 17:31.19 | zenzelezz | it can break your preconceptions and misconceptions about interpreted languages |
| 17:32.14 | zenzelezz | I hate rolling new chars... running around for 10 levels with the starter weapon |
| 17:34.13 | cog|work | Shirik: i find that somewhat ironic after reading http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/05/29/2242205 |
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| 17:42.02 | Shirik | cog|work: I don't disagree; at my school, all engineers have to take at least an entry-level CS course (beginning C) |
| 17:42.42 | Lunessa | Bah, I should go back to school and get a paper to cover the work I've been doing for 25 years... |
| 17:44.08 | Shirik | however, convincing the engineers that they actually need that, on the other hand, is another story |
| 17:50.37 | Lunessa | Don't /most/ universities (US based) require some sort of computer programming course for engineering? |
| 17:51.37 | cog|work | probably yes for engineering. But probably no for many other "hard" sciences. |
| 17:53.35 | Lopeppeppy | Don't need no ninnervate. *grump* |
| 17:54.20 | Lunessa | Gah. Cosmologists and physicist should know at least 1 real programming language. How the hell else are you going to manage data and or control your instruments? |
| 17:54.42 | Lopeppeppy | Hire someone else. *sigh* |
| 17:55.42 | cog|work | Lunessa: exactly the point of the article |
| 17:56.37 | Lunessa | I keep forgetting that people don't want to learn anything. I mean, I work at a university where a slogan for a department was "Putting U in Technology" |
| 17:59.13 | Lopeppeppy | Magic Shell is the winnar. |
| 18:00.31 | Shirik | lua> t = {}; t.and = 4; print(t.and); |
| 18:00.32 | lua_bot | Shirik: luabot:1: '<name>' expected near 'and' |
| 18:02.18 | wereHamster | since when is 'and' a reserved word? |
| 18:03.05 | haste | :D |
| 18:03.41 | cog|work | since forever? |
| 18:04.02 | Seerah | just like or |
| 18:04.46 | Shirik | it's a keyword, not a function, so it makes sense |
| 18:04.49 | Shirik | imo |
| 18:05.08 | Shirik | I was just double checking because I just realized I named all my functions "or" and "and" etc |
| 18:05.15 | Josh_Borke | lua> t = { ['and'] = 4 }; print(t.and) |
| 18:05.16 | lua_bot | Josh_Borke: luabot:1: '<name>' expected near 'and' |
| 18:05.23 | Josh_Borke | lua> t = { ['and'] = 4 }; print(t['and']) |
| 18:05.23 | lua_bot | Josh_Borke: 4 |
| 18:05.33 | Shirik | because apparently notepad++'s syntax highlighting is fail :P |
| 18:09.59 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:10.10 | nevcairiel | you can use t["and"] |
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| 18:11.15 | nevcairiel | i had that with "end" |
| 18:12.26 | Seerah | with lua, shirik? I <3 Notepad++ and syntax highlighting works fine for me with "or" and "and". Unless I'm misunderstanding you? |
| 18:13.42 | Lopeppeppy | Anyone have thoughts/opinons on this mod? http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/12837/ |
| 18:15.25 | Seerah | it looks like it takes UnitHealth() and then adds/subtracts from there based on the combat log instead of always querying UnitHealth().... That's my take based on the description |
| 18:16.24 | Seerah | not sure how accurate it would be... |
| 18:16.26 | Lopeppeppy | Do you think that the claim to process health changes faster than the query is a true statement? |
| 18:16.31 | Lopeppeppy | And of course accuracy.... |
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| 18:17.08 | zenzelezz | probably could be faster, but I think I've heard that the combat log is not reliably accurate |
| 18:17.09 | Seerah | it depends on how you run your query. If it's OnUpdate or based on events |
| 18:18.20 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm. Thinks I'm sticking with what I've got. *hugs* |
| 18:18.24 | Seerah | I wouldn't bother with it.... |
| 18:18.25 | Seerah | yeah |
| 18:18.46 | Seerah | it only works for player/pet/party/raid |
| 18:19.09 | cladhaire | anyone have any account with domaintools.com |
| 18:19.16 | cladhaire | or able to look up archived whois information? |
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| 18:19.31 | Seerah | I personally think it might be more efficient to rely on an OnUpdate handler to ask for UnitHealth() every .5 seconds or whatever instead of catching every single combat log event and doing the math |
| 18:19.53 | Seerah | wow... I feel smarter as a coder after reading what I wrote ^^^ That is... if it's accurate :P |
| 18:19.56 | zenzelezz | I thought that was the addon's point, updating faster than 0.3 seconds |
| 18:20.17 | Seerah | but what if you're in a big raid with 25-40 people getting damaged and healed? |
| 18:20.22 | Lopeppeppy | It may be "faster" zenzelezz, but the point about the combat log not always being accurate/in range/etc. makes a difference for me. |
| 18:20.22 | cog|work | Seerah: the point is that UnitHealth doesn't update faster than the .3 seconds mentioned in the description |
| 18:20.29 | cog|work | the goal isn't framerate |
| 18:20.35 | Seerah | ah, I admit that I didn't read the whole thing >< |
| 18:20.36 | cog|work | it's finer-grained reporting of health values |
| 18:20.39 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: I said nothing about that aspect of things |
| 18:21.07 | Lopeppeppy | Those are the aspects that make me wary. I'm not sure faster is better in this case. |
| 18:21.24 | zenzelezz | let me rephrase then |
| 18:21.29 | zenzelezz | I said nothing about what's BETTER |
| 18:21.53 | zenzelezz | if my health depends on someone's display updating faster than every 0.3 seconds, then I have bigger problems |
| 18:23.02 | Wikwocket | regeardless, as a healer, faster HP updates is better |
| 18:23.18 | Wikwocket | as long as they are *correct* ;) |
| 18:24.28 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah... *correct* makes me wjncce |
| 18:24.47 | zenzelezz | "[2. Trade] [...]: check ure english teacher" |
| 18:24.59 | Lopeppeppy | Swedish Chef also rocks my world. |
| 18:25.08 | Lunessa | I'd rather not bother. 0.3 seconds is usually not so long that I have people dying on me. |
| 18:25.38 | Seerah | there was a link in the comments to this post about it http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6921.msg221459#msg221459 |
| 18:26.14 | Wikwocket | I dunno, granted you should have a healing spell started sooner than 0.3 seconds before someone dies, but every little bit helps |
| 18:26.24 | Lopeppeppy | *loves on Seerah* |
| 18:26.27 | Wikwocket | It's kind of like having 0.3 seconds of spell haste perhaps |
| 18:27.16 | DARKGuy | lol zenzelezz |
| 18:27.17 | Seerah | so, I'd still stay away from it (at least for now) peppy :) |
| 18:27.39 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, it seems like it would transmt scurvy and stuff. I don't need rickets in my healing gears! |
| 18:28.21 | Wikwocket | It is probably rather risky now, but I find the idea interesting |
| 18:28.57 | Lopeppeppy | i'm always looking for a good time, a new addon to make healing happier and easier for myself and my raid group. I'm just also nasty and suspicious and bring them back here to be vetted first! |
| 18:32.35 | Wikwocket | Maybe the idea of that mod could be used, you could make a Grid indicator for "true HP" or something |
| 18:32.58 | Wikwocket | That way it wouldn't interfere with other mods, and just be a piece of info you could use in addition to standard HP updates etc |
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| 18:33.41 | Lopeppeppy | I have not the coding experience to do any sort of thing... I'm the customer service dinosaur of the flock! |
| 18:34.04 | Wikwocket | It's beyond my scope as well ;) |
| 18:34.25 | Lunessa | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/6/2/ |
| 18:34.43 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa. I love you. *hug* |
| 18:36.50 | Lopeppeppy | .... *laugh* |
| 18:38.21 | Lunessa | http://icanhascheezburger.wordpress.com/files/2008/05/funny-pictures-melvin-cat-wants-stapler.jpg |
| 18:41.20 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah. I'm just going to need you to go ahead and come in on Saturday. |
| 18:41.45 | Lunessa | It looks like someone has a case of the Mondays! |
| 18:42.08 | Lopeppeppy | Hell yes, love. Every day. |
| 18:43.06 | Seerah | DARKGuy, I don't think you have enough flair. |
| 18:43.24 | Seerah | ;) |
| 18:43.29 | Lunessa | DARKGuy: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0151804/ |
| 18:43.34 | DARKGuy | lol Seerah |
| 18:43.35 | DARKGuy | xD |
| 18:43.40 | Lunessa | PC Load Letter? |
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| 18:45.23 | Lopeppeppy | TPS Reports!! |
| 18:46.36 | Lunessa | I think you have my stapler. |
| 18:47.12 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr. I'll show you a stapler. |
| 18:48.44 | DARKGuy | cruel, cruel girls :P |
| 18:49.05 | Lunessa | ... Yeah, that what be great. |
| 18:52.51 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy broke Lunessa's grammar |
| 18:53.48 | zenzelezz | that's what they all say |
| 18:53.51 | Lopeppeppy | I liked thinking that I broked your grammar. :P |
| 18:56.07 | zenzelezz | I never thought I'd miss the Barrens |
| 18:56.34 | Kirov | zenzelezz - thousand needles? |
| 18:56.41 | zenzelezz | Mulgore |
| 18:57.04 | DARKGuy | Mulgore :/ |
| 18:57.05 | zenzelezz | but I do believe that when I reach Thousand Needles I'll also reminisce about the Barrens |
| 18:57.07 | DARKGuy | I miss crossroads :( |
| 18:58.29 | Kirov | There are very few zones in Kalimdor I like |
| 18:58.49 | zenzelezz | I love Feralas and Winterspring. The rest vary. |
| 18:59.00 | DARKGuy | Feralas = <3 |
| 18:59.18 | Kirov | They're all huge, desolate areas with quests that require you run from one extreme end to the other and back over and over. |
| 18:59.55 | Kirov | Granted, that could be said about most of the areas in WoW, it just felt especially worse in Kalimdor |
| 19:00.12 | Tekkub | despite the running, I love Winterspring |
| 19:00.18 | Lopeppeppy | Kalimdor always felt the worst for distances |
| 19:00.25 | zenzelezz | Wetlands, now that feels likea lot of running to me |
| 19:00.36 | DARKGuy | nah, Un'Goro Crater |
| 19:00.38 | Tekkub | I hope Wrath is all Winterspring (I know, it's not) with more streamlined design |
| 19:00.38 | Lunessa | Blizzard learned a lot about designing to be a game and not a "setting" with TBC. |
| 19:01.16 | zenzelezz | Redridge I hate... because of the stupid condor meat quest |
| 19:01.21 | Wikwocket | I think TBC has a lot of zones that really inspire you with their immersion, yet are also very functional |
| 19:02.21 | Kirov | Yeah, TBC's zones are a lot better about just basic localizing |
| 19:02.45 | DARKGuy | what, the new races islands? |
| 19:02.58 | Tekkub | and logical flow from one hub to another |
| 19:03.22 | Tekkub | compare to Elwynn, which is quite obviously the first zone they made |
| 19:03.50 | Tekkub | every single quest chain is "run out to the lumber camp then back to the farm west of goldshire" |
| 19:04.03 | Wikwocket | Elwunn has charm, it just needs a flight point :) |
| 19:04.05 | Kirov | Ganklethorn Vale is actually one of the better designed zones as far as distances, the maze-like layout mucks it up though. |
| 19:04.07 | Tekkub | do one thing, traverse the zone |
| 19:04.15 | zenzelezz | Elwynn isn't all that... Duskwood I like |
| 19:05.14 | zenzelezz | Durotar... my first char was an orc, and my eyes are somewhat sensitive to light... the zone nearly made me quit before level 10 |
| 19:05.38 | Tekkub | durotar? try tanaris :P |
| 19:06.18 | zenzelezz | yeah, that's bad too, but that's not a starter zone :) |
| 19:06.47 | Lunessa | Duskewood wins the "Consistent Theme and Creepy Factor" zone. |
| 19:07.03 | DARKGuy | rofl Kirov, Ganklethorn vale |
| 19:07.15 | Lopeppeppy | Must now go find some excellent boxes for storing crap under my bed... See yas! |
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| 19:07.25 | Tekkub | duskwood doesn't creep me out... sillythis hives do |
| 19:07.31 | Tekkub | I fucking hate those things |
| 19:07.56 | Lunessa | mmmm... Silithid. |
| 19:08.59 | zenzelezz | AQ was fun in that way, running around inside a giant hive |
| 19:09.06 | zenzelezz | and the bug tunnel :-o |
| 19:09.13 | Lunessa | You know what I want to know? With all those races packed into a total land mass of less than the size of Rhode Island - why the hell hasn't one race just gone on a purely genocial binge and gotten themselves some room? |
| 19:10.20 | zenzelezz | one of the things I find odd about WoW is that you can't understand your fellow faction's languages, but you speak fluent gnoll |
| 19:10.38 | Tekkub | how big is rhode island? I once sat down and toyed with the math... the continents are about 12 miles long |
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| 19:11.04 | Lunessa | Rhode Island is pretty small. You can drive across it in under an hour. |
| 19:11.07 | Tekkub | assuming toons "run" at a steady jog |
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| 19:12.07 | Lunessa | 37 x 48 miles |
| 19:12.19 | Atriace | I'm confused. The Lua manual states that table.insert (t, [pos,] x) inserts "x" at "pos" of "t", but table.insert(t,x) also inserts "x" at n+1 of t (end of table). What happens when your value is a numeric (ie, table.insert(t,10)). Does it assume pos=nil and pos arg == x if only 2 arguments are given? |
| 19:12.31 | Lunessa | 1,545 sq miles in area. |
| 19:13.08 | Shirik | Atriace: Exactly |
| 19:13.10 | Tekkub | if you pass two arg it doesn't consider pos at all |
| 19:13.31 | Shirik | The C api can determine how many parameters were passed and thus checks that to determine whether or not you gave it pos |
| 19:13.37 | Atriace | Wow, it's been a while... thanks. And "hi" Shirik. :) |
| 19:13.43 | Shirik | hi :) |
| 19:14.18 | Shirik | I actually don't think you can set pos to nil, but I might be wrong |
| 19:14.28 | Shirik | lua> t = {}; table.insert(t, nil, 4}; pp(t) |
| 19:14.28 | lua_bot | Shirik: luabot:1: ')' expected near '}' |
| 19:14.38 | Lunessa | Tekkub: Basically, there's not enough room in all of the WoW land masses to support the story population. No wonder the farm in AV is hotly contested. |
| 19:14.38 | Shirik | lua> t = {}; table.insert(t, nil, 4); pp(t) |
| 19:14.38 | lua_bot | Shirik: luabot:1: bad argument #2 to 'insert' (number expected, got nil) |
| 19:14.42 | Shirik | yeah ^ |
| 19:14.49 | Atriace | ^_^ |
| 19:14.50 | Shirik | you have to skip pos, not give it nil :) |
| 19:15.13 | Tekkub | Lunessa, well yea, you seen ANY crop farming anywhere? |
| 19:15.34 | Lunessa | Well, they fake it pretty well in Westfall |
| 19:15.53 | Tekkub | nothing in WoW can survive without being a carnivore and killing anything that moves till it respawns |
| 19:16.01 | zenzelezz | they would farm crop in Westfall if people would stop running all over their fields all the time |
| 19:16.27 | Tekkub | westfall is like what, 5 farms... only 1 or 2 of which haven't been taken over |
| 19:16.27 | Lunessa | And flapping their arms at the chickens on Saldin's farm? |
| 19:16.58 | Tekkub | oh and 2 farms in elwynn |
| 19:17.46 | Tekkub | maybe teldy puts out fruit for the nelves... and orcs/trolls got the cactus apples |
| 19:18.20 | Lunessa | And there's no lack of mutton. |
| 19:18.30 | Tekkub | undead don't need food... that leaves hunting bears/wolves/cats for dorfs/gnomes |
| 19:19.19 | Wikwocket | Here's another thread on that immediate health update mod: http://elitistjerks.com/f32/t26517-instant_health_updates/#post766078 |
| 19:19.43 | Tekkub | I guess when you throw in that meat can majickally materialize, fully grown, out of nothing... there really isn't a lack of food or a need to farm, unless you're a vegetarian |
| 19:20.02 | Tekkub | also means there's no veal :) |
| 19:21.09 | Lunessa | Well, there are pieces of 30 year old and 100 year old mutton... and all kinds of meat/fish/eggs out there. And more mold and fungus than you can wok up... |
| 19:21.09 | zenzelezz | reminds me of "Vealastrasz" |
| 19:22.04 | zenzelezz | I don't know, I can wok up a lot |
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| 19:23.01 | Lunessa | And there is all kinds of bread stuffs that magically appear because some mage got peckish. |
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| 20:01.11 | Shirik | since when do unions have constructors... |
| 20:01.23 | Shirik | warning C4510: 'CLuaHandler::DataElement::<unnamed-tag>' : default constructor could not be generated |
| 20:02.48 | zenzelezz | C++? |
| 20:03.10 | Shirik | yes |
| 20:03.28 | Shirik | LOL |
| 20:03.32 | Shirik | I just read this great tutorial |
| 20:03.42 | Shirik | In Red Hat Linux versions 7.x one could omit the "using namespace std;" statement. Use of this statement is good programming practice. |
| 20:03.52 | Shirik | .... no, use of "using namespace std;" is horrible programming practice... |
| 20:04.08 | Shirik | you should qualify std -_- |
| 20:04.22 | kergoth | heh, in general i'd say explicit is better than implicit, in most things |
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| 20:19.25 | Lunessa | Every day I want to answer postings in UI & Macros forum with "PEBKAC" |
| 20:21.12 | Valaron|Work | Most excellent. |
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| 20:35.36 | Keias | Whassat mean? |
| 20:37.56 | Lunessa | Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair |
| 20:39.58 | Wikwocket | hmmm having some ID = 10T errors? :) |
| 20:40.45 | Lunessa | Just the usual. I'm finding my will to assist with various UI/macro issues has been worn down to a small nub. |
| 20:43.46 | Lunessa | off to get fudz. |
| 20:45.28 | Shirik | :( I think I started an argument in ##c++ |
| 20:45.50 | Cairenn | Okay guys - if you haven't already gotten a copy of the WoW Programming book, or if you want another - we've got 10 that we are raffling off at WoWInterface: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16560 |
| 20:46.01 | Shirik | I asked a question and the response was "That's not standard" "yes it is" from all sides >.> |
| 20:46.15 | Shirik | also /yay Cairenn |
| 20:46.20 | Wikwocket | Cairenn: woot! |
| 21:06.41 | Kaso | I wonder if there has ever been any studies on the number of glasses wearers within say physics maths and computer science compared with the population at large |
| 21:06.54 | Kirov | Kaso - I believe there was |
| 21:07.55 | Kirov | Kaso - I seem to remember one not specifically about glasses, but "those who require vision correction" |
| 21:08.25 | Kaso | Do you recall the conclusion? |
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| 21:09.51 | Kirov | Yeah, basically a wash, though people who were not in science / math were more likely to not wear any glasses / contacts / get lasered when they actually needed them than those who were. |
| 21:10.43 | Kirov | A lot of jocks especially if I remember actually had very bad vision, but refused to wear anything. |
| 21:11.38 | Kaso | Hmm, thats interesting |
| 21:11.50 | Shirik | Kaso: If it's anything to go off of, my eye doctor is convinced that my vision would be great if it wasn't for the computers |
| 21:12.03 | Kirov | I actually have a lot of respect for those guys in basketball who wear basically prescription swimming goggles. |
| 21:12.15 | Shirik | lol, prescription swimming goggles |
| 21:12.28 | Kaso | I was just having a drink with some fellow compsci students today and it just sorta dawned on me that all but one of us wore glasses or contacts |
| 21:13.31 | Kirov | Shirik - for those prone to bad eye sight, not being in comp sci is better for you. |
| 21:13.39 | Kirov | but your eyes will go bad |
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| 21:13.54 | Kirov | different curves leading to the same result. |
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| 21:16.15 | Kirov | reading a lot, regardless of what you're looking at (monitor, paper, etc.) will mean your eye doesn't have to focus between multiple planes often, keeping the muscles in your eye strong and the flexibility of the lense up. |
| 21:16.57 | Kaso | According to a quick study i found on pubmed, although "operators of screen based equipment" (lol) do report visual uncomfort, this is mirrored in any sort of work that requires close visual consentration without screens. "A review of the literature shows: SBE does not emit radiation in sufficient quantity to be harmful and there is no credible epidemiological evidence that work with SBE will damage the eye" |
| 21:17.25 | Kaso | Do video display units cause visual problems? - a bedside story about the processes of public health decision-making. (Cole BL. 2003) |
| 21:18.13 | Kaso | "screen based equipment" is a phrase i've never heard before |
| 21:18.15 | Kirov | "SBE visual uncomfort" has another name. It's called "60hz CRT" |
| 21:19.15 | Kirov | There's a second name for it too, "walking out of a dark room in to the bright sun" |
| 21:20.18 | Kirov | actually, there's a third one "you need reading glasses, f__ker" |
| 21:21.17 | Shirik | Kirov: I don't have bad eyesight, I rarely wear my glasses (and I'm not now) |
| 21:21.30 | Shirik | plus I'm not giving up my computer, sorry :P |
| 21:22.10 | Shirik | I have maybe 20/40 vision. Just bad enough to be noticable. I can do just about anything without them. |
| 21:22.25 | Kirov | My optometrist as a kid was actually convinced that bad eye sight was caused by people not wearing prescriptive glasses soon enough. Specifically not wearing bifocals at an early enough age. |
| 21:22.25 | Thunder_Child | then you do have bad eyesight |
| 21:22.34 | Shirik | I can see :P |
| 21:22.46 | Thunder_Child | bad is less than 20/20 |
| 21:22.53 | Kirov | My sister and I both have bifocal glasses when we were younger ... and we're not legally blind with out our contacts / glasses. |
| 21:22.55 | Kirov | heh |
| 21:23.03 | Shirik | you're bad! |
| 21:23.03 | Kirov | er, "we're now" |
| 21:23.11 | Shirik | besides, who gets to decide what 20/20 is... |
| 21:23.12 | kd3 | meh, my eyesight was better than 20/20 as a kid... the years of staring into monitors is starting to show signs |
| 21:23.17 | Thunder_Child | yes i know, but we were not talking about me |
| 21:23.54 | Thunder_Child | not you Shirik |
| 21:25.39 | Shirik | I demand that 20/100 be the new 20/20 |
| 21:25.55 | Thunder_Child | your demands fall on deaf ears and blind eyes |
| 21:25.57 | Kaso | bifs on children? Its an awfuly rare situation that calls for that really. |
| 21:27.15 | Kirov | Kaso - yeah. My mom wears glasses, but her eye sight isn't really that bad and she can do with out. My dad wears glasses as well, but he can drive and read with out glasses on. |
| 21:27.21 | Kirov | My sister and I ... blind |
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| 21:28.08 | Kirov | We're probably poster childs for anti-reading |
| 21:28.16 | Kaso | i used to work at an opticians, not sure i ever saw a case that bad in children |
| 21:28.37 | Kirov | Kaso - We didn't need them either. |
| 21:29.07 | Kirov | At least not before wearing them. |
| 21:29.08 | Kirov | heh |
| 21:30.50 | Kirov | My contacts are power 6.25 and 6.5. My sister wears 8.0 and 10.0 |
| 21:31.26 | Kirov | Hers are also weighted due to really bad astigmatism |
| 21:31.46 | Kirov | (for those who don't know, most contact brands max out at around 5-6) |
| 21:32.25 | Kaso | she's got contacts at that powers? thats pretty impressive, bet they arent the most comfortable |
| 21:32.40 | Kirov | Kaso - yeah |
| 21:33.00 | Kirov | Kaso - they're custom 1 a year jobs |
| 21:33.46 | Kirov | She's been wearing contacts for a long long time, so she's used to them. |
| 21:33.48 | zenzelezz | I'm used to gold/power leveling spam in-game... but hacks? o_O |
| 21:34.24 | zenzelezz | "Walk through Walls! Change your character stats to whatever you want. Solo entire instances - Kill foes with ONE HIT!!" |
| 21:34.28 | Kirov | zenzelezz - heh, not any more legal than the power leveling, so I'm not really surprised. |
| 21:35.09 | Thunder_Child | sounds more like a private server than a hack |
| 21:35.26 | Kirov | Thunder_Child - was just thinking that too |
| 21:38.30 | Drundia | i believe they are stealing passwords |
| 21:38.42 | Drundia | from some silly enough peopel |
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| 21:38.55 | zenzelezz | wouldn't surprise me at all |
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| 21:46.52 | Shirik | I agree with Drundia in that it's likely a scam more than anything |
| 21:47.33 | zenzelezz | it was too free of spelling mistakes to be a "genuine" spammer |
| 21:47.39 | Shirik | heh |
| 21:49.33 | Kaso | function UnitStat(unitName, statIndex); if unitName=="player" then return 9999 end end |
| 21:49.38 | Kaso | ^^ sell an addon doing that |
| 21:49.55 | Drundia | haha |
| 21:50.06 | Drundia | "why do i die so fast? i have 999999 health" |
| 21:50.13 | Kaso | well with an else i guess, to stop it breaking everything. |
| 21:53.26 | Drundia | _UnitStat = UnitStat; function UnitStat(...); if (...)=="player" then return 9999 else return _UnitStat(...) end |
| 21:53.41 | Drundia | without one of semi-colons too.... |
| 21:53.52 | Drundia | copied without checking |
| 21:54.11 | Drundia | sounds as a cool set of functions for some 1st april addon |
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| 22:02.05 | Lunessa | ur fudz, gib me dem. |
| 22:04.02 | Lunessa | Anyone else unable to login to the forums? |
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| 22:15.06 | Shirik | time to go home, pz |
| 22:16.27 | Lunessa | I wish. Stupid "Maymester" hours. I'm stuck here until 7pm GMT-6 |
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| 22:19.59 | Lunessa | *sigh* http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6948874960&sid=1 |
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| 22:31.47 | *** topic/#WoWUIDev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 2.4.x ToC: 20400 | #WoWUIDev-commits : A place to watch active development of World of Warcraft addons. Multiple Sites' CIA & JIRA bots reporting | WoW Programming book raffle: http://www.wowinterface.com/raffle.php |
| 22:31.59 | zenzelezz | :-o |
| 22:32.13 | zenzelezz | shake, raffle and roll |
| 22:32.24 | Thunder_Child | ~lart zenzelezz |
| 22:32.24 | purl | gives zenzelezz a good seeing to |
| 22:32.46 | zenzelezz | don't start it again TC, I've been kind to you for some time |
| 22:32.55 | Thunder_Child | thats because i havent been here |
| 22:33.02 | zenzelezz | details |
| 22:33.11 | Thunder_Child | important detailes |
| 22:33.16 | Thunder_Child | details* |
| 22:36.53 | Adys_ | anyone around running safari? |
| 22:37.16 | haste | I'm using midori, if that helps |
| 22:37.27 | Shirik | midori? |
| 22:37.27 | Adys_ | Nah want a check on native safari |
| 22:37.33 | Shirik | she's cute |
| 22:37.36 | Adys_ | btw haste check arora out :) |
| 22:37.44 | Adys_ | loads better than safari |
| 22:37.45 | haste | that's the QT browser, right? |
| 22:37.50 | Adys_ | s/safari/arora/ |
| 22:37.50 | Adys_ | yea |
| 22:37.56 | Adys_ | oh fail |
| 22:37.59 | haste | major |
| 22:38.00 | Adys_ | tired :( |
| 22:38.06 | haste | Shirik: and so green |
| 22:38.16 | haste | Shirik: it's however a very in dev web browser also |
| 22:38.30 | haste | Shirik: http://software.twotoasts.de/?page=midori |
| 22:38.32 | Shirik | never heard of it, might have to check it out just for the name |
| 22:38.33 | Shirik | thanks |
| 22:38.37 | Adys_ | http://code.google.com/p/arora/ |
| 22:38.57 | haste | I didn't like arora much |
| 22:39.14 | Adys_ | actually haste, midori doesnt use qtwebkit does it |
| 22:39.16 | Kaso | Ive got MobileSafari on my ipod which is pretty much the same |
| 22:39.23 | haste | Adys_: it uses webkitgtk |
| 22:39.57 | Adys_ | haste: can you go to http://addsanddishes.blogspot.com/2008/05/15-open-source-alternatives-to-windows.html and hover the "Goosh.org - Google command line interface" link |
| 22:40.15 | Adys_ | if it's a two-liner |
| 22:40.18 | haste | Shirik: the lua stuff isn't in yet, it's still pretty new :p |
| 22:40.43 | Adys_ | I'm getting first line dotted underline and second line solid underline :/ |
| 22:41.14 | Gnarfoz | dang |
| 22:41.14 | haste | it has a solid underline |
| 22:41.24 | Gnarfoz | all editors I have fail at coping with a 850mb wow combatlog :< |
| 22:41.39 | Adys_ | haste: two lines, right? |
| 22:41.43 | haste | yes, over two lines |
| 22:41.46 | Adys_ | ok |
| 22:41.53 | Adys_ | cheers |
| 22:41.55 | schnoggo | bbedit ftw |
| 22:42.32 | Gnarfoz | lol mega fail @ notepad++ page with js disabled |
| 22:42.43 | Gnarfoz | actually? it doesn't even use js, it just fails |
| 22:42.56 | Dotted | thats fail |
| 22:43.07 | schnoggo | can eclipse open it? |
| 22:44.18 | Wikwocket | Gnarfoz: EditPad (version 6+) should be able to open it |
| 22:45.00 | Wikwocket | there is a free demo version of EditPad available at http://www.editpadpro.com/editpadlite.html |
| 22:45.38 | haste | so should vim |
| 22:46.53 | Gnarfoz | quite certain vim could, but gvim is not vim aaaand I want to split the file (because I was slacking and not updating WWS), which I don't have a clue of how to do with native vim voodoo^^ |
| 22:47.03 | Gnarfoz | (yes, windows :P) |
| 22:47.19 | Gnarfoz | I'll try any of the suggestions though, until one works ;) |
| 22:48.25 | Gnarfoz | np++: failed |
| 22:49.19 | Wikwocket | there are several combat log splitter programs, but I bet they would choke on the file |
| 22:50.14 | Gnarfoz | there are? |
| 22:50.18 | Gnarfoz | hm. |
| 22:50.34 | Gnarfoz | wow |
| 22:50.36 | Wikwocket | the one I used to use is Java, lemme dig it up |
| 22:50.42 | Gnarfoz | Wikwocket: EditPad works :) |
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| 22:51.27 | Wikwocket | Gnarfoz: in version 6, the author made some specific changes to handle extra-large files |
| 22:51.27 | Gnarfoz | instantly opened the file, seems it only reads in as much as it needs (which... I would think any editor would do, but still, I've got more than enough RAM to handle even 2gig files in memory - I wonder why they're dying like flies on this one) |
| 22:52.22 | Gnarfoz | yeah, keeps adjusting the scroll bar ;) anyway, this is fine, I just need to split it into parts |
| 22:52.36 | Wikwocket | here is the log splitter I used: http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/7460/ |
| 22:52.46 | Wikwocket | But it splits each fight, like each boss pull |
| 22:52.53 | Wikwocket | so not quite what you need likely |
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| 22:55.41 | Gnarfoz | indeed not, wws does that server-side, but thanks anyway =) |
| 23:00.33 | Wikwocket | Yeah, I used to use it to manually split boss attempts when WWS had a client-side report generator that didn't split by pull |
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| 23:03.43 | Adys__ | haste: https://bugs.webkit.org/attachment.cgi?id=21471 this is what i was getting, in case you were wondering |
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| 23:35.41 | bleeter | stoopid forumz |
| 23:35.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Bah |
| 23:35.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Crap |
| 23:36.05 | bleeter | i had a mild heart attack thinking I'd been hacked on both accounts :( |
| 23:36.06 | ScytheBlade1 | So I wasn't authed to nickserv apparently |
| 23:36.16 | ScytheBlade1 | I finally check my status channel |
| 23:36.21 | ScytheBlade1 | 11:34 [Freenode] -!- #WoWUIDev Please register with services and use the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channel |
| 23:36.26 | ScytheBlade1 | * 40 or so |
| 23:36.33 | ScytheBlade1 | That's embarassing |
| 23:36.54 | bleeter | u r embarrazing |
| 23:37.01 | Drundia | yes we had some evil spammers here again |
| 23:39.04 | Shirik | nobody reads the entrmysg ( |
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| 23:44.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Not everyone rejoins the channel daily ;) |
| 23:45.00 | Drundia | those people shouldn't get unauthed really |
| 23:46.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Also |
| 23:46.05 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23791992-5001021,00.html |
| 23:46.07 | ScytheBlade1 | what |
| 23:46.51 | Kirov | ... |
| 23:48.02 | *** join/#wowuidev DARKGuy (i=DARKGuy@201.242.99.96) |
| 23:48.27 | DARKGuy | ^_^ |
| 23:49.15 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, at first i thought it meant from inside |
| 23:49.20 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 23:49.23 | ScytheBlade1 | I uh |
| 23:49.25 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 23:49.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Not sure how to even respond to that |
| 23:49.41 | Thunder_Child | well it seemed more realistic then from the outside |
| 23:49.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Arr |
| 23:49.47 | ScytheBlade1 | *Err |
| 23:50.45 | Shirik | wtf |
| 23:50.49 | Shirik | how did they get on... |
| 23:51.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Now read Thunder_Child's comment |
| 23:51.07 | Thunder_Child | stupid comments "did they take the nuts off, as well?" |
| 23:51.24 | Shirik | rofl |
| 23:52.17 | DARKGuy | hey what happened :O |
| 23:52.22 | ScytheBlade1 | 19:46 < ScytheBlade1> http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23791992-5001021,00.html |
| 23:52.23 | Thunder_Child | http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23791992-5001021,00.html |
| 23:53.25 | DARKGuy | rofl |
