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| 01:04.47 | Thezanke | ckknight, was cart3 released? |
| 01:05.41 | ckknight | yea |
| 01:05.48 | ckknight | well, as a beta |
| 01:06.26 | Thezanke | my friend just came over and was like "dude I got this awesome map addon, you can like zoom all the way in and see the ground and stuff" |
| 01:06.28 | Thezanke | i laughed |
| 01:07.11 | ckknight | lol |
| 01:07.34 | Thezanke | can you set people as waypoints?? |
| 01:07.50 | ckknight | it has a very limited featureset |
| 01:08.00 | ckknight | notes/waypoints don't exist yet |
| 01:08.21 | Thezanke | awe |
| 01:08.29 | Thezanke | and i cant download from curseforge... |
| 01:08.33 | Thezanke | i just tried |
| 01:08.36 | Thezanke | it did nothing |
| 01:09.19 | ckknight | should work fine |
| 01:09.34 | Thezanke | maybe it was just user error lol |
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| 01:09.58 | Hjalte | Thezanke: http://static.curseforge.net/uploads/18/82/538/cartographer3-v0.1.1-4-g87286c8.zip doesn't work? |
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| 01:11.12 | Thezanke | ckknight, project actions -> download wasnt working |
| 01:11.21 | Thezanke | but i just clicked filename and it worked |
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| 01:23.45 | Kaso | its pretty freaky developing for my ipod touch. I write some code, press build, my script runs then wirelessly flies off to the ipod in my hand and i just relanuch the program and its updated |
| 01:23.52 | Kaso | this wifi stuff is magic i tells you |
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| 01:29.49 | cloudwolf | >.< |
| 01:30.23 | cloudwolf | any one know a good tutorial website? |
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| 01:34.55 | Tyled | Cloudwolf what sort of tutorial do you need |
| 01:35.17 | cloudwolf | Sry was going in and out uhm good begginer tutorials that explain what does what and why it does it |
| 01:35.57 | cloudwolf | although im trying to aprantly do things iwth Ipairs now (trying to get info set from numbers making a basic text based calculator) |
| 01:36.51 | Tyled | This is the first tutorial I read when I started writing mods http://fara.webeddie.com/frames/ |
| 01:36.58 | Tyled | It isn't perfect but it helped me a fair amount |
| 01:37.09 | Tyled | It is very old as well |
| 01:38.04 | cloudwolf | not somuch focues on xml yet |
| 01:38.09 | cloudwolf | *focused |
| 01:38.17 | cloudwolf | man I can't spell today. |
| 01:38.40 | cloudwolf | Tyled would you mind walking me through some stuff? |
| 01:39.13 | Tyled | I can try to help, sure |
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| 01:42.05 | cloudwolf | tyled i sent you a query thingy |
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| 02:19.18 | cloudwolf | can any one find a problem i have plz? |
| 02:20.25 | Lopeppeppy | Can you be more specific, cloudwolf? |
| 02:21.07 | cloudwolf | It wount register thatm y slash command is a slash command says type '/help' for a list of commands like ify ou type a wrong emote |
| 02:21.14 | cloudwolf | i myself see nothing wrong with it |
| 02:21.26 | cloudwolf | SLASH_MATH1 = "/math"; |
| 02:21.26 | cloudwolf | SlashCmdList["MATH"] = Math_Command; |
| 02:22.05 | cloudwolf | its specified after a function |
| 02:22.26 | Lopeppeppy | You may need to paste more complete code up on the pastey listed on the forum topic, cloudwolf. I can't help you myself, but perhaps someone else can take a look. |
| 02:22.26 | Seerah | post it here http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ |
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| 02:24.07 | cloudwolf | its pasted |
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| 02:25.33 | cloudwolf | ask me for link if you want |
| 02:25.44 | Guillotine | Anybody know the penalty for dual wielding? Is it -50% damage with offhand? |
| 02:25.55 | Seerah | just post the link, cloudwolf |
| 02:26.22 | cloudwolf | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/88419 |
| 02:26.41 | cloudwolf | Guillotine im not sure the dmg is defenantly reduced and accuracy might be too |
| 02:26.51 | Guillotine | ok |
| 02:27.01 | cloudwolf | again im not sure |
| 02:27.58 | Seerah | is this your whole code, cloudwolf? |
| 02:29.22 | cloudwolf | yes at the moment |
| 02:29.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Guillotine: 24% miss chance with both weapons, and 50% oh damage. |
| 02:29.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Guillotine: (assuming completely untalented) |
| 02:29.44 | Guillotine | thanks |
| 02:30.23 | cloudwolf | i got help with this much and im a begginer at this stuff so i do expect it to be flawed |
| 02:31.16 | WobWork | anyone know where I can replace an Ubuntu windowmanager startup with a firefox instance? |
| 02:31.24 | WobWork | as in which script to modify |
| 02:31.43 | WobWork | response on #ubuntu is high latency =P |
| 02:31.55 | Kaso | pfft! multitouch my arse! iPhones only support 2 fingered gestures (lol) that sucks! |
| 02:32.06 | WobWork | Kaso: aye |
| 02:32.12 | WobWork | where multi = 2 |
| 02:32.37 | cloudwolf | seerah do you see the problem in the code? |
| 02:33.13 | Seerah | try putting it in an OnLoad function. http://www.wowwiki.com/Creating_a_slash_command |
| 02:33.14 | Kaso | im calling 2 multi is a stretch |
| 02:33.29 | cloudwolf | >.< |
| 02:33.33 | cloudwolf | not familiar wiht onload functions |
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| 02:33.44 | Kaso | I wonder if thats a limitation of the hardware, or if they didnt bother programming it to use more because its such a small display they didnt expect anyone to be use more than 2 fingers |
| 02:34.09 | cloudwolf | kaso its so small lol 3 fingers? |
| 02:34.16 | WobWork | "I'm sorry, your fingers are too fat to use our interface. Please mash the keypad to order our special dialling wand..." |
| 02:34.31 | Kaso | lol |
| 02:36.09 | Seerah | cloudwolf: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/88420-1vbo <-- try that |
| 02:36.57 | cloudwolf | uhm heh tutorial says otherwize |
| 02:36.58 | cloudwolf | says |
| 02:37.05 | cloudwolf | SlashCmdList["ADDONNAME"] = FunctionToCall; |
| 02:37.06 | cloudwolf | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:37.12 | cloudwolf | diff order >.> |
| 02:37.22 | cloudwolf | ile try tutorial than yours if it doesnt work |
| 02:38.24 | cloudwolf | tutorial didnt work lol |
| 02:39.24 | Seerah | cloudwolf: the wiki page I linked you has examples with it in *both* orders |
| 02:39.42 | cloudwolf | i guess i lacked in paying that close attention ^^ |
| 02:40.22 | cloudwolf | only thing ih ave to say is maybe it doesnt like math as the word |
| 02:41.08 | cloudwolf | well hmm why does it hate me so |
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| 02:43.33 | cloudwolf | the on load didn't fix it |
| 02:44.29 | cloudwolf | could it be a problem in the Math_Command function? |
| 02:46.58 | DARKGuy | wtf is HealComm ? |
| 02:47.57 | Seerah | HealComm is a library that sends heal info |
| 02:49.00 | Lopeppeppy | Yummy library. Yummy healing info. |
| 02:51.46 | Seerah | *mind control wears off Seerah* |
| 02:51.47 | Seerah | /me casts Slow Fall |
| 02:52.17 | Fisker- | also the cliff was the edge of outland |
| 02:52.18 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 02:52.34 | Seerah | then why bother dispelling? |
| 02:52.34 | Seerah | hrmm? |
| 02:52.40 | Fisker- | i'm impatient |
| 02:52.41 | Seerah | ~fail Fisker |
| 02:52.42 | purl | Fisker, you Fail! |
| 02:52.55 | Fisker- | ~failrik |
| 02:52.56 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 02:53.05 | Seerah | wrong one |
| 02:53.12 | Seerah | ~fail Fisker- |
| 02:53.13 | purl | Fisker-: FAIL! |
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| 02:53.24 | Shirik | uh |
| 02:53.27 | Shirik | have I been able to talk? |
| 02:53.44 | Seerah | dunno |
| 02:53.44 | Shirik | Ironically, Fisker- did ~failrik right as I said |
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| 02:53.53 | Shirik | (22:51:52) (Shirik) I officially fail miserably at the kael fight |
| 02:53.59 | Seerah | lol |
| 02:54.04 | Shirik | followed by #wowuidev Please register with services and use the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channel |
| 02:54.05 | Seerah | he meant Failrah |
| 02:54.30 | Seerah | the channel's +r atm |
| 02:54.33 | Fisker- | i can feel the fail |
| 02:54.33 | Seerah | (still) |
| 02:54.35 | Seerah | I think... |
| 02:54.40 | Fisker- | +R! |
| 02:54.42 | Shirik | +R |
| 02:54.44 | Shirik | not +r |
| 02:54.49 | Seerah | you know what?... |
| 02:54.57 | Seerah | ~lart Shirik |
| 02:54.57 | purl | acting on orders from an unspecified client drags Shirik into court suing for $200 million |
| 02:55.04 | Seerah | ~lart Fisker- |
| 02:55.04 | purl | squishes Fisker- like a bug |
| 02:55.11 | Shirik | there's a difference! |
| 02:55.15 | Fisker- | ;_; |
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| 03:20.23 | Tem | Anyone know offhand if Prayer of Mending triggers from Environmental damage (falling, lava, ect)? |
| 03:20.45 | Tem | Shirik, ping |
| 03:20.49 | Tem | you play a priest right? |
| 03:20.50 | Shirik | que pasa |
| 03:20.53 | Shirik | yes, and I can check right now |
| 03:20.57 | Tem | thanks :) |
| 03:21.17 | Shirik | no it does not |
| 03:21.47 | Tem | k, thanks |
| 03:22.08 | Tem | Shirik, how does it work when you are at full health? |
| 03:22.15 | Shirik | what do you mean? |
| 03:22.19 | Tem | does it heal before the damage hits? |
| 03:22.23 | Shirik | nope |
| 03:22.24 | Tem | so then is useless? |
| 03:22.33 | Tem | so also, it can't save you from death? |
| 03:22.35 | Shirik | right |
| 03:22.45 | Shirik | you take the hit, death is checked. If you didn't die, the heal procs and it jumps |
| 03:22.50 | Tem | k |
| 03:22.51 | Tem | thanks |
| 03:22.53 | Shirik | also, if you died, it doesn't jump |
| 03:23.02 | Tem | they should make it smarter |
| 03:23.14 | Fisker- | omg Shirik has the sourcecode, buuuuuurn him |
| 03:23.18 | Tem | so it heals before the damage if the damage would kill you |
| 03:23.28 | Tem | so it can at least try to save you |
| 03:23.42 | Tem | (and potentially live on to heal other players) |
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| 03:28.20 | DARKGuy | Seerah, is it normal for it to send its comm messagesw on the guild channel & whispers, visible for me? :( |
| 03:28.34 | DARKGuy | s/messagesw/messages/ |
| 03:28.36 | Seerah | you rang? |
| 03:28.42 | Seerah | healcomm? |
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| 03:28.55 | Seerah | no. you probably have a different addon messing with it or something.... |
| 03:29.00 | DARKGuy | yeah I keep seeing random HealComm messages on guild or whisper |
| 03:29.01 | DARKGuy | ah |
| 03:29.03 | DARKGuy | crazy :P |
| 03:29.13 | dylanm | Can't Prat do that? |
| 03:29.29 | Seerah | it's supposed to use the hidden addon channel |
| 03:29.39 | Seerah | s/addon/data |
| 03:29.41 | DARKGuy | nah I use chatter |
| 03:29.48 | DARKGuy | oh well |
| 03:29.53 | dylanm | Hmm. |
| 03:29.56 | Seerah | bah, forgot a / :P |
| 03:29.56 | DARKGuy | I don't blame the addon :P |
| 03:30.10 | DARKGuy | I can't play retail, stupid parents :( |
| 03:30.22 | Seerah | ahh... no retail wow, then no support :P |
| 03:30.28 | DARKGuy | yeah :P |
| 03:30.35 | DARKGuy | hey I still can make addons :D |
| 03:30.43 | DARKGuy | and they work on retail XD |
| 03:30.59 | Seerah | you can, but you can't guarantee that, can you? |
| 03:31.02 | Cairenn|afk | but we won't talk about non-retail in here .... |
| 03:31.20 | DARKGuy | yeah |
| 03:31.21 | DARKGuy | :( |
| 03:52.18 | DARKGuy | I find it interesting though, the communication method/parameters seem to be different since not all addons have that behaviour |
| 03:52.51 | DARKGuy | Fun heh ^^. |
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| 04:23.30 | Kajas | What was that program called that I could check my XML file for errors |
| 04:24.05 | Kajas | Almost positive that there's a missing close somewhere.. but I really don't want to look line-by-line for a typo.. lol *lazy* |
| 04:35.56 | Tekkub | idea: don't use XML |
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| 04:39.30 | Seerah | kajas: could just open with your web browser |
| 04:39.46 | Kajas | That works too, ok. |
| 04:39.59 | Kajas | Tekkub: Haven't gotten to the point where I can code in the frames (yet) |
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| 04:48.50 | Seerah | rofl: http://angryflashlight.deviantart.com/art/Lobster-Knife-Fight-86363724 |
| 04:50.02 | Lopeppeppy | Yummy, Seerah! |
| 04:52.22 | Cairenn|afk | rofl |
| 04:54.05 | DARKGuy | haha |
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| 05:02.34 | dylanm | Kajas: xmllint? |
| 05:05.33 | dylanm | Kajas: http://xmlsoft.org/xmllint.html the --schema option is probably relevant here. I don't think it picks that up automatically. |
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| 05:07.22 | Kajas | Awesome, thanks a ton Dylanm |
| 05:07.59 | dylanm | Also not sure if it comes precompiled on whatever OS you're using. On OS X it certainly does. |
| 05:09.46 | Kajas | *cry* Vista |
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| 05:10.33 | Kajas | When I declare a function for the <OnClick> event.. can I pass custom arguments.. such as OnClick(DoThis(myVar)) etc? |
| 05:11.04 | dylanm | Declare...? |
| 05:11.15 | Kajas | Yes, declared and set elsewhere in the code |
| 05:11.29 | Kajas | or even OnClick(DoThis(self:GetName())) etc |
| 05:11.44 | dylanm | That's what a lot of people do, sure. |
| 05:11.53 | Kajas | Cool :) |
| 05:12.02 | dylanm | Do that inside your <OnClick> body. It's just code that gets run. |
| 05:12.27 | Kajas | Ahh, got it. Thank you so much |
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| 05:17.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Kajas: something I whipped up to valid the WoW XML files against the blizz XSD... http://dev.averageurl.com/wow/xml/ |
| 05:18.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Should be self explanatory. Paste the XML in there, and it'll tell you if anything is wrong. |
| 05:18.07 | dylanm | Nice! |
| 05:18.19 | ScytheBlade1 | That's the idea :) |
| 05:19.33 | ScytheBlade1 | ~wowxsd |
| 05:19.40 | ScytheBlade1 | purl, wowxsd is http://dev.averageurl.com/wow/xml/ |
| 05:19.40 | purl | okay, ScytheBlade1 |
| 05:19.52 | ScytheBlade1 | ~wowxsd |
| 05:19.53 | purl | i guess wowxsd is http://dev.averageurl.com/wow/xml/ |
| 05:20.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Stupid anti-spam prevention |
| 05:27.25 | Kajas | Thanks for the link Scythe. Took me a sec to figure out the error messages (as in.. what part to ignore) but very nice :) |
| 05:27.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, the error messages I can't do much about |
| 05:27.44 | ScytheBlade1 | I didn't write the program that does the validation :) |
| 05:28.01 | ScytheBlade1 | I'll eventually make it prettier, but for now, it should work |
| 05:29.14 | Kajas | hmm.. can't use tokens in FontString tags for the "text=" assignment? darn |
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| 05:39.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Hey, as long as it is of use to you. ;) |
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| 05:55.33 | Kajas | I'm still not completely sure about the 'not' keyword.. is it a way of checking for false/nil by reversing all true's to false.. so if something is false/nil/doesn't exist then the 'not Value' would return true... right? |
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| 06:09.05 | Nom- | grr bloody irssi |
| 06:12.25 | ScytheBlade1 | There, I cleaned up the output a bit. Nothing quite like str_replace |
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| 06:15.36 | Arrowmaster | Kajas: correct |
| 06:15.45 | Kajas | Thanks |
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| 07:25.02 | DARKGuy | Night ^^ |
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| 07:34.32 | Kajas | Is anyone on that could possibly help me, or point me in the direction to, understand how to save/use variables between game sessions? I have the tables marked in the ##Saved Variables construct.... but I don't understand how to pull/populate the data saved.. |
| 07:35.36 | Arrowmaster | you dont, the game does it for you |
| 07:36.02 | Arrowmaster | it saves the contents of those variables when you exit the game and load them when you start |
| 07:36.32 | Kajas | Doesn't seem to be working.. the default data in the tables that are set in the LUA file are being used, instead of what it was at when i /rl .. didn't see the file for my addon in the variables folder either |
| 07:36.32 | krka | Kajas: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon. |
| 07:36.46 | Kajas | .. *note to self: don't use lua in all caps* |
| 07:37.05 | Arrowmaster | yeah thats an autoresponce |
| 07:37.27 | Arrowmaster | ok so in your wtf folder in the savedvariables folder there isnt a folder of your addons name? |
| 07:37.34 | Kajas | nope |
| 07:37.55 | Kajas | ## SavedVariables: LS_Whisper LS_Mail LS_Entry LS_Info LS_Player LS_Winners << Line from the .TOC |
| 07:37.55 | Arrowmaster | did you restart the game after changing the toc file? |
| 07:37.58 | Kajas | yep |
| 07:38.01 | Kajas | twice |
| 07:38.08 | Arrowmaster | oh seperate them with commas |
| 07:38.10 | Kajas | all of those are tables |
| 07:38.11 | Kajas | k |
| 07:38.27 | Kajas | testing |
| 07:38.38 | Arrowmaster | besure to restart wow |
| 07:38.40 | Drundia | buying automagic message: LUA |
| 07:38.50 | Arrowmaster | its got an antispam |
| 07:38.53 | Drundia | where is it? |
| 07:38.54 | Drundia | :( |
| 07:41.01 | Kajas | Added the comma's.. changed values.. /rl .. and when it came back..all default data was populated |
| 07:41.44 | Kajas | WTF/Account/User/ << Doesn't contain a file for my addon |
| 07:41.44 | Arrowmaster | is it creating the file though? |
| 07:42.29 | Kajas | WTF/Account/User/Relm/Char << Doesn't contain a file for my addon either |
| 07:42.36 | Arrowmaster | ## SavedVariables: LS_Whisper, LS_Mail, LS_Entry, LS_Info, LS_Player, LS_Winners |
| 07:42.40 | Arrowmaster | is what you have? |
| 07:42.49 | Kajas | ## SavedVariables: LS_Whisper, LS_Mail, LS_Entry, LS_Info, LS_Player, LS_Winners |
| 07:42.51 | Kajas | yep |
| 07:43.05 | Arrowmaster | check framexml log in Logs folder |
| 07:43.43 | Kajas | No entry for it in the framexml file |
| 07:44.39 | Kajas | 1 sec and I'll post both the Code file and the TOC file on pastey |
| 07:46.41 | Kajas | Code: http://www.pastey.net/88435 | TOC: http://www.pastey.net/88436 |
| 07:47.44 | Drundia | Kajas did addon even load? |
| 07:47.49 | Kajas | Yep |
| 07:48.10 | Kajas | Runs as expected otherwise.. just the stuff I want to save aren't working how I expected |
| 07:50.58 | Kajas | Anything I missed or didn't do properly? |
| 07:52.14 | Drundia | it should work |
| 07:52.27 | Kajas | I was reading where I had to subscribe to VARIABLES_LOADED event.. but I really didn't understand how that works or now to pull the loaded data into the var's |
| 07:53.03 | Kajas | But.. even so.. the file isn't being made so whether I had the event wouldn't make much diff |
| 07:53.20 | Drundia | there is no real need to listen to that event unless you need to do something based on saved settings immediately |
| 07:54.14 | Kajas | hmmm.... quite odd |
| 07:54.37 | Drundia | it should make that file already |
| 07:54.45 | Drundia | some write-protection? |
| 07:55.02 | Nargiddley | restarted wow since changing the toc last ? |
| 07:55.19 | Kajas | Yep, fresh restart when I changed the TOC to add the commas |
| 07:56.58 | Drundia | did you log out or reload ui after restarting? |
| 07:57.03 | Kajas | Yep |
| 07:57.23 | Drundia | so any possibility of having some write-protection there? |
| 07:57.40 | Kajas | Not that I can think of.. wouldn't that affect all the other addons as well? |
| 07:58.07 | Kajas | I'll check though.. even though it's in the Virtual Store area of Vista [have I mentioned how much I hate Vista?] |
| 07:58.27 | Drundia | i don't know. i think permissions to create files and modify existing ones are separate |
| 07:58.34 | Drundia | oh, Vista |
| 07:58.40 | Drundia | that's an explanation |
| 07:58.41 | Kajas | Nope.. the WTF folder and all directories have full access permissions for all users |
| 07:59.04 | Kajas | Even tried running WoW "As Administrator" |
| 07:59.22 | Drundia | WOW fails to write some files when running Vista on some computers.... |
| 08:00.26 | Elkano | could be related to wether you installed under program files... I'm not having any isues but I installed to a different directory |
| 08:03.00 | Drundia | that's interesting, try to move your WOW elsewhere, it normally has nothing against it... |
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| 13:23.02 | foxlit | # There's no Peter Pan, so what can you do? |
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| 14:06.50 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Jelly-dear! |
| 14:07.13 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 14:10.13 | Lopeppeppy | cladhaire! *gasp* |
| 14:10.23 | Lopeppeppy | You made my Peep bigger and glossy, thank you! |
| 14:10.40 | cladhaire | yw! |
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| 15:13.55 | Kaso | Can you do full bash scripting in a makefile? |
| 15:15.00 | Cide | can YOU do full bash scripting in a makefile? |
| 15:15.29 | Kaso | ^_- whut? |
| 15:15.43 | Kaso | is that a sly tias reference? |
| 15:16.00 | Cide | I don't know, is it? |
| 15:16.08 | Kaso | im very confused :< |
| 15:16.10 | foxlit | caN you dO full bash scripting in a makefile? |
| 15:16.38 | foxlit | s/you/I/ |
| 15:16.54 | Kaso | this is an odd conversation |
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| 15:36.55 | Kaso | woot i can do makefiles me |
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| 15:37.21 | Kaso | now i can do "make package push" rather than fuzzing around manually, yay |
| 15:40.05 | foxlit | There should be more professors that show up at your end-of-course exam to exclaim "You are not prepared!" at you. |
| 15:40.17 | Shirik | rofl |
| 15:40.23 | Shirik | I should do that next semester! |
| 15:40.37 | Shirik | for the lab final |
| 15:41.07 | Lopeppeppy | They'll piss in their beakers in fear, Shirik. |
| 15:41.15 | foxlit | You may be running out of time, who knows what the new catchphrase will be? |
| 15:41.15 | Shirik | good |
| 15:41.29 | Shirik | between me and behi, they will never make it through the class |
| 15:41.30 | Shirik | muahaha |
| 15:41.52 | Shirik | Behi (the professor for the class) is commonly known as darth vader |
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| 15:45.53 | cncfanatics | hello peeps |
| 15:46.39 | Shirik | hiya |
| 15:47.26 | cncfanatics | anyone feels like playing Tetris ? |
| 15:47.36 | cncfanatics | I got a tetris game I need tested a little |
| 15:47.42 | Shirik | heh, sure |
| 15:47.48 | foxlit | write a tetris simulation, np |
| 15:47.55 | foxlit | probably more fun than the actual game |
| 15:47.58 | Shirik | how big is it |
| 15:48.02 | cncfanatics | 17 kb |
| 15:48.09 | cncfanatics | http://cncfanatic.free.fr/Tetris.jar |
| 15:48.10 | Shirik | platform dependent? |
| 15:48.13 | Shirik | ooh java |
| 15:48.13 | cncfanatics | its java |
| 15:48.14 | cncfanatics | so nope |
| 15:48.20 | cncfanatics | source code in the jar file too |
| 15:48.44 | Lopeppeppy | Huh. Holy crap, someone took over Benecast. I never knew. |
| 15:48.47 | foxlit | 1 serving of fail, cnc |
| 15:48.57 | foxlit | java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError |
| 15:49.01 | cncfanatics | how so, foxlit ? |
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| 15:49.08 | Shirik | there should be a way to drop it down all the way, cncfanatics |
| 15:49.14 | Shirik | i.e., space bar :P |
| 15:49.21 | cncfanatics | mmmm |
| 15:49.27 | Kaso | yah seconding that |
| 15:49.40 | Kaso | or downwards should accelerate the longer you hold it |
| 15:49.50 | Shirik | yeah |
| 15:49.53 | Shirik | one of the two |
| 15:49.59 | cncfanatics | well, spacebar is already pause |
| 15:50.12 | schnoggo | ah... the Apple ||| - dual-speed arrow keys... |
| 15:50.22 | cncfanatics | ctrl + down arrow will make it go all the way down |
| 15:50.25 | cncfanatics | lemme code that |
| 15:50.35 | Shirik | should the S and Z pieces be different colors? |
| 15:50.49 | cncfanatics | I ran out of colors |
| 15:50.52 | cncfanatics | which is why they're the same |
| 15:51.00 | Shirik | oh, they are different colors |
| 15:51.02 | Shirik | just barely |
| 15:51.22 | cncfanatics | its yellow & orange I think ? |
| 15:51.33 | Kaso | how are the blocks picked completely randomly? cos ive gone like a whole game with only one each of the L peices >.< |
| 15:51.37 | Shirik | to me it's like yellow and mildly dark yellow |
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| 15:52.09 | cncfanatics | damn ajax client |
| 15:52.17 | Shirik | another tiny thing cncfanatics, and you could ignore thsi if you want |
| 15:52.19 | cncfanatics | hit back by accident, killed it |
| 15:52.20 | foxlit | int blockID = (int) (Math.random() * 7); |
| 15:52.21 | foxlit | BlockType newBlockType = BlockType.values()[blockID]; |
| 15:52.23 | foxlit | random :) |
| 15:52.25 | Kaso | ok i just found a bug cncfanatics |
| 15:52.44 | Kaso | im not sure how i did it but ive manage to stop a block from falling |
| 15:52.49 | Shirik | certain pieces (specifically, the straight up piece) if you turn it immediately, it goes away |
| 15:52.53 | Shirik | Kaso, did you hit space bar? lol |
| 15:52.59 | Kaso | no the game is still running |
| 15:53.04 | Kaso | i can move and flip the peice |
| 15:53.07 | Kaso | its just not falling |
| 15:53.21 | cncfanatics | Kaso: you probably got an exception which stopped the logic thread from running |
| 15:53.32 | cncfanatics | could you try to reproduce in a console ? |
| 15:53.39 | cncfanatics | Shirik: what you mean ? |
| 15:53.46 | cncfanatics | it rotates offscreen at the very start ? |
| 15:54.05 | Shirik | aye |
| 15:54.10 | Shirik | because it becomes horizontal off screen |
| 15:54.26 | cncfanatics | is that a big issue ? :p takes less then a sec for it to come back |
| 15:54.37 | Shirik | no, but it catches me off-guard occasionally P |
| 15:54.41 | Shirik | I said it was tiny :) |
| 15:54.48 | Shirik | (11:52:12) (@Shirik) another tiny thing cncfanatics, and you could ignore thsi if you want |
| 15:55.19 | Kaso | isnt htere some way to get access to the java console even though you're running a jar app, im sure there was |
| 15:55.27 | cncfanatics | no idea Kaso |
| 15:55.27 | Shirik | yes |
| 15:55.29 | cncfanatics | there might be |
| 15:55.54 | Kaso | how exactly? |
| 15:56.39 | Kaso | ah ha |
| 15:56.42 | Kaso | think ive found it |
| 15:56.58 | cncfanatics | Shirik: I might ctrl + down arrow make the block go all the way down |
| 15:57.02 | cncfanatics | was the easyest way |
| 15:57.04 | cncfanatics | just an if clause to add |
| 15:57.15 | foxlit | if key == space then gowaydown? |
| 15:57.22 | cncfanatics | space pauses the game |
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| 15:57.35 | cncfanatics | if(e.isControlDown()) while(GameLogic.mobileBlock.canGoDown()) GameLogic.mobileBlock.goDown(); |
| 15:57.47 | foxlit | Swap that to P or something :) |
| 15:57.48 | Cide | no way |
| 15:57.53 | Cide | aye |
| 15:57.57 | cncfanatics | k k |
| 15:57.58 | Cide | space bar should always be all the way down |
| 15:58.02 | Cide | LEARN TO TETRIS, GOD |
| 15:58.12 | cncfanatics | : |
| 15:58.12 | cncfanatics | :( |
| 15:58.22 | Cide | I think we need ~failatics |
| 15:58.36 | nevcairiel | cncfailatics? |
| 15:58.41 | Cide | doesn't sound as good :/ |
| 15:59.03 | Cide | doesn't get any better than 'failrik' though (sorry shirik, you're a victim in this case) |
| 15:59.46 | Kaso | got it cncfanatics |
| 16:00.11 | cncfanatics | shirifail sounds quite decent |
| 16:00.26 | cncfanatics | ok, from now on, both ctrl + down and spacebar make the block go way down :p |
| 16:00.28 | Kaso | http://pastey.net/88447 |
| 16:00.40 | cncfanatics | array out of bounds ? :o |
| 16:00.41 | cncfanatics | weird |
| 16:00.45 | cncfanatics | how did you manage to get that ? |
| 16:01.05 | Kaso | i had a T block on the first row, up against the wall, tried to rotate in a way so that some of it would go outside the wall if it worked, exception |
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| 16:01.27 | foxlit | T is a square, though? |
| 16:01.31 | cncfanatics | should just have refused |
| 16:01.36 | foxlit | So you can't really get out of bounds on rotation? |
| 16:01.50 | Kaso | T? how is that a square? |
| 16:01.58 | foxlit | XXX |
| 16:02.00 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:02.10 | Kaso | -| i had it liek that agaist the wall |
| 16:02.16 | Kaso | rotated it to __ |
| 16:02.19 | Kaso | | |
| 16:02.21 | foxlit | So it should've rotated in place :/ |
| 16:02.32 | Kaso | the T is only four blocks |
| 16:02.34 | Kaso | not five |
| 16:02.34 | Shirik | I just got an exception too :( |
| 16:02.40 | nevcairiel | all blocks are 4 blocks :P |
| 16:02.41 | foxlit | so 3x2 rather than 3x3 |
| 16:02.41 | Seerah | XXX |
| 16:02.41 | Seerah | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:02.47 | Shirik | not actually sure what I did |
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| 16:02.55 | cncfanatics | back again |
| 16:02.55 | Cide | ~winrik |
| 16:02.56 | Shirik | I was trying to reproduce Kaso's bug and found something completely different lol |
| 16:03.01 | Kaso | heh |
| 16:03.04 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 16:03.06 | Cide | do we need a ~winrik as well? |
| 16:03.09 | cncfanatics | Kaso: line 127 has a comment |
| 16:03.13 | Shirik | Kaso, how did you get that? |
| 16:03.17 | cncfanatics | /System.out.println("row " + y + " going down"); |
| 16:03.17 | Shirik | refresh my memory |
| 16:03.18 | nevcairiel | Cide: for the rare occasion? |
| 16:03.22 | Cide | yeah |
| 16:03.32 | Cide | Shirik: btw, did you ever figure out your loop bug? |
| 16:03.35 | cncfanatics | Shirik: what happened for you ? |
| 16:03.41 | Seerah | purl, winrik is Shirik is teh win. |
| 16:03.42 | purl | Seerah: okay |
| 16:03.49 | Shirik | cncfanatics: I really don't know |
| 16:04.01 | Shirik | one of the blocks finished dropping down and the next block never came |
| 16:04.23 | cncfanatics | exception too I supose ? |
| 16:04.24 | Kaso | when a block is on the first row, and its not fully on the screen yet it appears limitations to rotation dont apply properlly |
| 16:04.27 | Shirik | Kaso: How did you get the window up there? |
| 16:04.48 | Kaso | you mean java console? |
| 16:04.50 | Shirik | yes |
| 16:05.03 | Shirik | I can't remember how to do it |
| 16:05.08 | Kaso | turns out its only for web applets, so i just java -jar'd it from command line |
| 16:05.09 | cncfanatics | managed to reproduce it |
| 16:05.10 | Cide | Shirik: btw, did you ever figure out your loop bug? |
| 16:05.14 | Shirik | oh that makes sense |
| 16:05.20 | Shirik | because jars typically run from javaw |
| 16:05.25 | Kaso | mm |
| 16:05.33 | Shirik | so they don't have a console |
| 16:05.34 | Cide | Shirik totally has me on ignore |
| 16:05.40 | Kaso | heh |
| 16:05.41 | Shirik | I said I did! |
| 16:05.51 | Cide | you didn't prepend "Cide: "! |
| 16:05.54 | Shirik | It was in one of the for loops actually |
| 16:06.04 | Cide | ah, what was it? |
| 16:06.09 | Shirik | there was an extremely rare case where the step could be zero |
| 16:06.12 | Shirik | which ended up being this: |
| 16:06.14 | Cide | ah |
| 16:06.20 | Cide | delta = 0? |
| 16:06.25 | Shirik | --> for x = 0, 0, 0 do end print"OK" |
| 16:06.31 | batbot | Shirik: @ maximum execution time/memory exceeded |
| 16:06.39 | Cide | heh :P |
| 16:07.49 | Shirik | wow, I just found a bug in command prompt |
| 16:07.52 | Shirik | what the hell |
| 16:07.56 | Cide | haha, what? |
| 16:08.41 | Shirik | I screwed something up and tried to tab complete, hit tab and I couldn't complete the first half, so went back to put in quotes and try again, and then I had random characters off to the right side of my screen |
| 16:08.44 | foxlit | I found a bug between my chair and monitor :/ |
| 16:08.45 | Shirik | that Icouldn't get to |
| 16:08.56 | Cide | nice |
| 16:09.03 | Cide | I've had some weird bugs too |
| 16:09.17 | Cide | issuing django's "python manage.py dbshell" |
| 16:09.26 | Cide | which launches pgsql in my case |
| 16:09.46 | Cide | anyway, doing that from cmd properly launches pgsql, but all input goes to cmd |
| 16:10.09 | Cide | so I get stuff like "'select' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file." |
| 16:10.11 | Cide | really strange |
| 16:10.57 | Shirik | hey cool! |
| 16:11.04 | Shirik | Kaso's bug is more fun on my screen |
| 16:11.27 | Kaso | more fun on your screen? |
| 16:12.48 | Shirik | please don't judge my tetris skills on this screenshot |
| 16:12.50 | Shirik | I wasn't playing :P |
| 16:13.29 | Shirik | I got the block off the field: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/4e2159e5228f75c24d66db309c94a3ad.jpg |
| 16:13.40 | Cide | hahaha |
| 16:13.46 | Cide | worst tetris field ever |
| 16:14.34 | Shirik | actually, cncfanatics |
| 16:14.39 | Shirik | that may be a good indication of where the bug is |
| 16:14.43 | Shirik | it's not where the exception occurred |
| 16:14.44 | Seerah | wow, that's a lot of windows you have open, shirik! |
| 16:14.49 | Shirik | it's in the rotation handling |
| 16:14.56 | Shirik | the timer is just a side effect |
| 16:15.06 | Shirik | (at least, that's my analysis |
| 16:15.13 | Seerah | does it need a "clamp to screen" type dealie? |
| 16:15.23 | Shirik | well he already has it, but it doesn't appear to work atthe top |
| 16:15.33 | Seerah | ahh |
| 16:15.43 | Shirik | hey hey, cncfanatics, you know what's the best way to fix this? |
| 16:15.54 | Shirik | make it so blocks don't go off screen if you rotate them at start! |
| 16:15.56 | Shirik | :D |
| 16:16.07 | cncfanatics | my rotation code is allowing some rotations it shouldn't |
| 16:16.10 | cncfanatics | pissing me off :p |
| 16:16.41 | Shirik | Seerah: Honestly, this is not a lot of windows |
| 16:16.48 | Shirik | I only have 3 calculators open |
| 16:16.50 | Shirik | at work I tend to have 15 |
| 16:16.53 | nevcairiel | i would just calculate the new position after the rotation and check if its in the field cncfanatics |
| 16:16.57 | Seerah | 3 calculators? |
| 16:17.01 | Seerah | calculators? |
| 16:17.04 | Seerah | 3? |
| 16:17.09 | Seerah | .... 15? |
| 16:17.11 | Shirik | well, I don't think |
| 16:17.16 | Shirik | I just do windows+r calc enter |
| 16:17.21 | Shirik | when I need to do a calculation |
| 16:17.27 | Shirik | then I go back to what I was doing without closing it |
| 16:17.36 | Seerah | ~failrik |
| 16:17.37 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 16:17.41 | Shirik | :( |
| 16:18.02 | cncfanatics | found why it fails |
| 16:18.05 | cncfanatics | now, on to check the fix |
| 16:18.11 | Seerah | I have a handy-dandy button on my keyboard to open the calculator ;) |
| 16:18.38 | Shirik | ok time for food, I'll be back |
| 16:18.46 | nevcairiel | Shirik: good that windows groups the same process in one taskbar entry eh? |
| 16:19.16 | Seerah | I hate that feature - I always disable it |
| 16:20.27 | foxlit | Double-size the task bar |
| 16:20.38 | foxlit | And you'll always never run into situations when it actually uses it |
| 16:20.54 | zenzelezz | always never? |
| 16:21.12 | foxlit | s/ways/most/ |
| 16:22.00 | Seerah | I also hate double task bars ;) |
| 16:22.05 | Seerah | <-- picky |
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| 16:27.09 | cncfanatics | I think I fixed my check :) |
| 16:27.45 | Seerah | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:28.20 | cncfanatics | mind checking again, anyone ? |
| 16:28.39 | cncfanatics | http://cncfanatic.free.fr/Tetris.jar got updated :p |
| 16:30.03 | Nechckn | cncfanatics looks to be working A-Okay |
| 16:30.17 | cncfanatics | why only A- ? |
| 16:32.01 | Nechckn | that was "A"hyphenOkay =) |
| 16:32.20 | cncfanatics | oh |
| 16:32.28 | cncfanatics | I thought A-, okay :p |
| 16:32.49 | cncfanatics | my bad, sorry :p |
| 16:33.10 | Nechckn | it's all good... usage misunderstanding |
| 16:34.58 | Nechckn | cncfanatics is there a way to mod the settings.. speed and such? |
| 16:35.06 | cncfanatics | currently not |
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| 16:35.45 | Nechckn | no problem- it's decent for me, but the young'uns like it a bit slower |
| 16:35.57 | cncfanatics | its not really the point of being played |
| 16:36.02 | cncfanatics | its just really a school project :p |
| 16:36.08 | Nechckn | sure it is! |
| 16:36.17 | Nechckn | what good is a game if you cannot play it, eh? |
| 16:36.19 | Nechckn | heheheh |
| 16:36.39 | cncfanatics | gets me notes |
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| 16:42.06 | chewsocks | what would i put in a .lua to do MainMenuBarArtFrame:Hide() ? |
| 16:42.25 | Kaso | i'd start by putting MainMenuBarArtFrame:Hide() in it |
| 16:42.45 | chewsocks | I tried but it was still there when i logged in |
| 16:43.04 | cncfanatics | you need to do it after PLAYER_LOGIN prolly |
| 16:43.38 | Kaso | might as well do it on pew to be safe |
| 16:46.03 | chewsocks | how would one do that |
| 16:46.30 | dylanm | chewsocks: You could try setting its .Show method to a dummy function. |
| 16:46.33 | Kaso | http://pastey.net/88450 |
| 16:46.37 | Kaso | try that for show |
| 16:46.48 | dylanm | Or that. |
| 16:47.06 | Kaso | setting its .Show method is throw some taint around isnt it? |
| 16:47.14 | dylanm | Most likely :p |
| 16:48.35 | haste | not really |
| 16:48.38 | chewsocks | that worked thanks |
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| 16:49.22 | dylanm | It would definitely cause some stuff to not work. |
| 16:49.48 | dylanm | I think you can just move it offscreen. Isn't that what you did, haste? |
| 16:49.56 | dylanm | Until the coming of oBindings. |
| 16:50.15 | haste | a dummy func wouldn't taint much at all |
| 16:50.26 | haste | and I still move it out of the screen D: |
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| 16:53.17 | cncfanatics | couldn't you securehook the :Show() with a :Hide(); ? |
| 16:53.19 | cncfanatics | wouldn't taint at all |
| 16:53.42 | cog|away | anyone know if "chance to cast ____ when struck" effects in diablo 2 stack if you have more than one piece with the same effect? |
| 16:54.06 | cncfanatics | they do |
| 16:54.12 | cncfanatics | but each triggers independantly |
| 16:54.12 | dylanm | theoryablo |
| 16:54.19 | cncfanatics | so 50% + 50% won't be 100% |
| 16:54.19 | Kaso | cncfanatics check out the code i posted in the pastey ;) |
| 16:54.32 | cog|away | cncfanatics: that's what i was hoping :) |
| 16:54.44 | haste | just do .Show = function() end -- no taint, no overhead of securehook |
| 16:54.54 | cncfanatics | that should taint some code ? |
| 16:55.07 | haste | no |
| 16:55.16 | haste | but I'm going to make dinner now :3 |
| 16:55.17 | cncfanatics | secure code calling .Show() would get tained wouldn't it ? |
| 16:55.28 | cncfanatics | or am I horribly mistaking somewhere |
| 16:55.36 | haste | I don't believe so, it |
| 16:55.42 | haste | 's easy to test tho' |
| 16:56.09 | haste | I don't have either |
| 16:56.49 | cncfanatics | cog|away is playing diablo 2, traitor ! |
| 16:56.59 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 16:57.45 | wereHamster | cncfanatics: I really wish Intangir would implement the 'WoW-over-webbrowser'. It's not that hard to do actually.. :P |
| 16:57.59 | cncfanatics | how would you go doing that ? |
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| 16:58.06 | cncfanatics | recode WoW in java & opengl ? :p |
| 16:58.23 | cncfanatics | the opengl part is already done, would just need the java port |
| 16:59.08 | wereHamster | encode the video to mjpeg and display that in the browser. That should be enough for battlegrond leeching and addon testing |
| 16:59.57 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 17:00.08 | wereHamster | ... have to catch a train. bbl |
| 17:04.35 | foxlit | cncfanatics: couldn't you securehook the :Show() with a :Hide(); ? |
| 17:04.44 | foxlit | haste: just do .Show = function() end -- no taint, no overhead of securehook |
| 17:04.46 | foxlit | Both will taint |
| 17:04.52 | foxlit | Well, rather |
| 17:04.59 | cncfanatics | securehook wouldn't taint at all I think |
| 17:05.00 | foxlit | securehook would not work if the frame is protected |
| 17:05.02 | cncfanatics | secure hooks are made to not taint |
| 17:05.15 | foxlit | You won't taint it, but it wouldn't be able to hide the protected frame |
| 17:05.27 | cncfanatics | why ? |
| 17:05.37 | foxlit | Because any user code is insecure |
| 17:05.40 | cncfanatics | nvm, silly question |
| 17:05.55 | foxlit | Any hooks you make are thus insecure when executed :) |
| 17:06.02 | foxlit | overwriting Show taints the execution of whoever calls it, so you better hope that's the last thing they do. |
| 17:06.02 | cncfanatics | I think the cleanest way is just SetPointing it out of screen then :p |
| 17:06.07 | cncfanatics | or making it too tiny to see |
| 17:06.34 | foxlit | Is it just the gryphons? |
| 17:06.49 | foxlit | :SetAlpha(0) is probably the easiest and most resilient |
| 17:06.56 | cncfanatics | no idea, it wasn't me who wanted to do something |
| 17:07.00 | cncfanatics | was someone else asking |
| 17:07.30 | foxlit | ah, no, it acts as a container for the other bars |
| 17:07.51 | Kaso | ake: Warning: File `helloworld.app' has modification time 0.0055 s in the future |
| 17:07.56 | Kaso | ^^ whats with that >.< |
| 17:08.50 | cncfanatics | easy |
| 17:08.52 | cncfanatics | you saved |
| 17:08.58 | cncfanatics | then your clock used its NTP server to sync |
| 17:09.07 | cncfanatics | and your clock got rewinded back a few secs |
| 17:09.15 | cncfanatics | resulting in a file saved in the future |
| 17:09.34 | cncfanatics | most likely at least |
| 17:09.50 | Kaso | but its happening like 50% of the time when im making, it cant be ntp'ing that much |
| 17:09.59 | Kaso | plus im not sure ntp works behind my firewall |
| 17:09.59 | cncfanatics | I dunno then |
| 17:10.06 | cncfanatics | works behind mine at least |
| 17:12.04 | Kaso | Ive never investigated it but windows always comes up "an error occurred while windows was synchronizing with time.nist.gov", and they are often quiet tight with the firewall rules here at uni |
| 17:12.13 | cncfanatics | well, windows fails for a reason |
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| 17:14.53 | batrick | Shirik: ping |
| 17:14.58 | Shirik | batrick: pong |
| 17:15.06 | batrick | what do you want to do with filum |
| 17:15.08 | batrick | lol |
| 17:15.13 | batrick | we've sorta both forgotten about it |
| 17:15.19 | Shirik | we need to finish it! |
| 17:15.30 | batrick | ya... |
| 17:15.48 | Shirik | but it's ok if it takes some time imo |
| 17:15.52 | Shirik | we're both a bit busy |
| 17:16.39 | batrick | what've u been up to |
| 17:17.44 | Shirik | trying to manage to work 300 hours in 7 weeks for school |
| 17:18.01 | Shirik | and I just recently found out today is a holiday, so I have to now work 10 hour days this week to make up for it |
| 17:18.14 | batrick | =( |
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| 17:19.31 | Kaso | Anyone good with linux scripting know how i'd quickly kill a process given its name |
| 17:19.40 | batrick | killall <name> |
| 17:20.18 | Kaso | oh thats alot easier |
| 17:20.30 | Kaso | i was envisioning some ps-lA piped into kill crazyness |
| 17:20.49 | Shirik | QNX doesn't have killall :( |
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| 17:42.34 | TecnoBrat | Kaso, sometimes you still need "ps-lA piped into kill crazyness" :P |
| 17:43.49 | Kaso | another random question; how would i get a "block" charater to appear in html? |
| 17:44.02 | TecnoBrat | unless there is some magical thing I don't know about killall and killing processes like "ruby /home/whatever/whatever/dispatch.fcgi" :P |
| 17:45.42 | Kaso | █ i think it is >.< |
| 17:46.27 | Kaso | woot that works |
| 17:46.56 | Kaso | though mobile safari doesnt render them perfect, some have thin gaps between them |
| 17:46.58 | Kaso | oh well |
| 17:47.02 | Kaso | close enough |
| 17:47.17 | TecnoBrat | thats a font issue then probably :P |
| 17:48.08 | Kaso | im just making some faux bar graphs, its close enough for me. |
| 17:51.29 | foxlit | <div>! |
| 17:52.03 | foxlit | width, height, background, done |
| 17:52.26 | batrick | Kaso: could use something like this too: http://wowi.pastey.net/88452 |
| 17:52.50 | Kaso | killall works fine, but yeh thats the sorta thing i was imagening orginally |
| 17:53.36 | Kaso | foxlit, you talking about using that to make the bargraph? that'd be cool but in the mode i have it, theres no css support |
| 17:54.03 | foxlit | <table bgcolor="" width=""> |
| 17:54.09 | foxlit | poor man's div, right there :) |
| 17:54.26 | Kaso | hmm, that'd work |
| 17:54.40 | Kaso | it was supposed to be quick and dirty, but i might just do that :> |
| 18:04.22 | foxlit | Any particular favorites for transferring tables across players using addon manages? |
| 18:06.48 | wereHamster | 'using addon manages'? |
| 18:07.35 | foxlit | messages |
| 18:07.36 | Hirsute | foxlit: Maybe be a "poor man's div", but it renders far more consistently across browsers in a lot of situations than div's do. |
| 18:07.48 | foxlit | Typing seems to have a turn for the worse |
| 18:08.28 | wereHamster | foxlit: I'm sure ace has a library that automatically serializes and deserializes tables for you. |
| 18:08.54 | foxlit | I'm sure it'll also be larger than my entire addon :) |
| 18:08.58 | wereHamster | and I wrote such library for one of my addons, it's not that hard |
| 18:09.16 | Kaso | just dont use loadstring |
| 18:09.19 | foxlit | And I'm also under the impression that it's not going to take very long to write |
| 18:09.35 | wereHamster | foxlit: feel free to copy out whatever you want: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/CommChannel/Lib/CommChannel.lua |
| 18:09.45 | wereHamster | Kaso: why? |
| 18:10.03 | foxlit | Remote code execution, go! |
| 18:10.04 | Kaso | remote code execution exploits are possible if you're not very carful |
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| 18:10.36 | wereHamster | I use pcall() and setfenv() |
| 18:10.44 | Kaso | i like the prefix used in that |
| 18:11.14 | foxlit | wereHamster: likely still liable to ("pants"):repeat(1024*1024); |
| 18:13.18 | wereHamster | sure, but then there's the tradeoff between code complexity and security. If you have people in your raid misusing the addon in such way, you have much bigger problems anyway |
| 18:15.41 | foxlit | I don't really subscribe to "bigger problems" in that scenario :) |
| 18:16.36 | Shirik | lua> 1/2 * (1/4 + 9/4) |
| 18:16.37 | lua_bot | Shirik: 1.25 |
| 18:17.14 | foxlit | And aren't you listening on BATTLEGROUND? :) |
| 18:17.29 | wereHamster | 1/4+9/4 ? did you really need the bot for that? |
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| 18:18.15 | Shirik | poor bots |
| 18:18.21 | Shirik | they seem so lonely now |
| 18:18.37 | Shirik | oh crap, I didn't even notice they were the same denominator wereHamster |
| 18:18.38 | Shirik | lol |
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| 18:23.16 | Seerah|away | lol |
| 18:25.09 | Drundia | R > bots |
| 18:25.38 | Drundia | meaning spam bots of course |
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| 18:27.15 | foxlit | How long until they l2register? |
| 18:27.33 | foxlit | And then we'll be responsible for creating a new generation of +r-resistant bots :( |
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| 18:30.07 | Shirik | heh foxlit |
| 18:30.10 | Shirik | don't give him ideas! |
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| 18:34.16 | Drundia | or someone will make such bots and sell them to spammers |
| 18:34.32 | Drundia | oops, i didn't want to give him another idea |
| 18:34.34 | foxlit | It's naive to assume they haven't, or are unable to think of that themselves :) |
| 18:34.51 | Drundia | spam bots? doubt they can think... |
| 18:35.07 | nevcairiel | the creators can |
| 18:35.09 | nevcairiel | ~wowalert |
| 18:35.10 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US), http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) |
| 18:35.16 | wereHamster | purl, can you think? |
| 18:35.41 | wereHamster | ugh, she can't even speak |
| 18:35.49 | foxlit | # EnlaRge YouR THes1s! |
| 18:36.15 | nevcairiel | purl, ping |
| 18:36.16 | purl | pong |
| 18:36.32 | Drundia | ~_~ |
| 18:36.33 | purl | :/ |
| 18:36.42 | nevcairiel | ~~~ |
| 18:36.42 | purl | I HATE YOU, nevcairiel!!! |
| 18:36.56 | Drundia | ~-~ |
| 18:37.02 | Drundia | ~o~ |
| 18:37.11 | Drundia | ~:( |
| 18:37.12 | purl | awwwww, whats the matter?? |
| 18:37.23 | Drundia | ~botsnack |
| 18:37.23 | purl | :), Drundia |
| 18:37.31 | Drundia | ~:) |
| 18:37.32 | purl | somebody said :) was honeypea |
| 18:37.39 | nevcairiel | wonder if thats still on |
| 18:37.40 | nevcairiel | thanks |
| 18:37.45 | nevcairiel | oh its off :) |
| 18:40.39 | Seerah | <3 purl |
| 18:44.20 | Drundia | ~:D |
| 18:44.21 | purl | :D!!! |
| 18:44.34 | Drundia | ~:p |
| 18:44.35 | purl | hmm... :p is it implies the last thing i said was a dumb joke, but directly represents me sticking out my tongue |
| 18:45.00 | Drundia | ~:pd: |
| 18:57.27 | Kaso | thats retarded, apple wont let me install itunes on windows xp x64, yet all the drivers that i require are available in x64 mode, and with some msi editing it installs fine |
| 19:02.52 | amro | the joys of proprietary software |
| 19:03.35 | nevcairiel | anyone know a good and easy to use UML design tool? |
| 19:04.37 | cladhaire | don't use argouml |
| 19:04.41 | cladhaire | its absolute shit |
| 19:04.44 | cladhaire | that is all :P |
| 19:04.52 | foxlit | Personal experience: they all suck |
| 19:04.56 | nevcairiel | why is that the tool that i tried? =( |
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| 19:06.06 | cladhaire | lol |
| 19:07.07 | nevcairiel | I suppose i could do it with Visio |
| 19:07.14 | nevcairiel | not sure how good the support is |
| 19:10.28 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/05/25/funny-pictures-best-watur-slide-evar1/ |
| 19:17.46 | norgs | So... How many people here have an OpenID? |
| 19:20.32 | foxlit | It's a somewhat interesting concept |
| 19:20.40 | foxlit | I hear Yahoo accounts are openIDs by nature |
| 19:21.00 | foxlit | But meh, never bothered to implement, and I'd prefer something directly under my control rather than something by proxy under my control |
| 19:21.19 | foxlit | Losing hosting == losing identity == qq! |
| 19:21.38 | norgs | i've just added openid support into pastey. |
| 19:22.13 | norgs | if you authenticate, it won't pop up the spam check if you post urls |
| 19:22.57 | foxlit | Wonder if bugmenot has openid by now! :) |
| 19:23.35 | Mikk | i almost have an openid |
| 19:23.47 | Mikk | :o) |
| 19:24.13 | norgs | i have an openid on http://norganna.org |
| 19:24.35 | Fisker- | your captcha is probably the most sadistic one ever norgs |
| 19:24.36 | norgs | http://norganna.org/id/norganna/ |
| 19:24.54 | norgs | Fisker- it's terrible |
| 19:25.15 | Shirik | is that the pastey one? |
| 19:25.17 | Fisker- | infact i just dispatched a deathsquad |
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| 19:27.01 | norgs | Shirik: huh? |
| 19:27.16 | Shirik | uh, never mind |
| 19:27.18 | Shirik | ignore me :) |
| 19:27.33 | norgs | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:27.37 | Shirik | :( |
| 19:28.00 | norgs | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:34.10 | Fisker- | ~failrik |
| 19:34.11 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 19:34.35 | Drundia | lua> debug.failrik() |
| 19:34.36 | lua_bot | Drundia: luabot:1: attempt to index global 'debug' (a nil value) |
| 19:34.41 | Drundia | gah |
| 19:34.45 | Fisker- | ~debug.failrik |
| 19:34.50 | Fisker- | ~debug.failrik() |
| 19:34.51 | purl | error("FAIL, Shirik, FAIL!"); |
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| 19:35.25 | Drundia | lua> debug=debug or {}; function debug.failrik() error("FAIL, Shirik, FAIL!"); end; debug.failrik() |
| 19:35.26 | lua_bot | Drundia: luabot:1: FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 19:35.42 | Kirov | ~kirov |
| 19:35.54 | Kirov | bah |
| 19:36.07 | Kirov | ~emulate |
| 19:37.47 | Industrial | ~emulate Industrial |
| 19:37.47 | purl | and now I'm high o/ |
| 19:37.52 | Industrial | lmao xD |
| 19:38.38 | Industrial | ~emulate Industrial |
| 19:38.38 | purl | Woo, first day at school. Stoned! |
| 19:38.38 | Kirov | ~emulate kirov |
| 19:38.39 | purl | personally I'd use blow fish |
| 19:38.52 | Industrial | ~emulate Industrial |
| 19:38.52 | purl | DIY! |
| 19:39.08 | Industrial | do it yourself :p |
| 19:39.16 | Kirov | ~emulate kirov |
| 19:39.17 | purl | personally I'd use blow fish |
| 19:39.23 | Kirov | damn it |
| 19:39.28 | Kirov | ~emulate kirov |
| 19:39.28 | purl | It's too early in the morning for me to be able to read moron. |
| 19:39.32 | Kirov | there we are |
| 19:39.39 | Industrial | ~emulate Industrial |
| 19:39.39 | purl | Woo, first day at school. Stoned! |
| 19:39.45 | Kirov | ~emulate cide |
| 19:39.45 | purl | Please remove this discussion from your consciousness. |
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| 19:40.47 | Industrial | ~literal emulate Industrial |
| 19:40.48 | purl | "emulate industrial" is "<reply> (Ogm teh tpyoas! Mroe ceffein pls!|and now I'm high o/|omgz wat uf in dat ui?!?!1123|Woo, first day at school. Stoned!|It doesnt matter if you win or lose, until you lose.|Mikma says I CBA, guess hes right.|Addon users are addicts.|DIY!|I had camsex with ckknight.)" |
| 19:41.18 | Industrial | .... who put that last one in... |
| 19:41.34 | Fisker- | seems awesome |
| 19:41.37 | Fisker- | ~emulate Fisker- |
| 19:41.38 | purl | emulate fisker- is, like, DISCLAIMER - The views of Fisker- do not necessarily represent this channel or its inhabitents. The Fisker- regularly browses 4chan looking for CP, or at least JB, and tries to convert more followers to his cause everyday. He says he's just a fan of "Captain Picard" and "Joe Bishop", but we know better, right? We think he's just here to try and get more CP, so watch out! - END DISCLAIMER |
| 19:41.40 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 19:41.45 | Industrial | lol. |
| 19:42.28 | Industrial | yuo shud ask haste, he does the 4chan thing. maybe hes into CP too Fisker-. |
| 19:43.23 | haste | lol |
| 19:48.17 | Fisker- | <-tired |
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| 19:50.49 | DARKGuy | mornin' ^_^ |
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| 21:21.48 | Industrial | blizzard |
| 21:21.55 | Industrial | what the FOOK is up with eu.wowarmory.com ? |
| 21:22.00 | Industrial | its been down for me for WEEKS |
| 21:22.03 | Industrial | DAMNIT >_< |
| 21:22.06 | Industrial | anyone else too? |
| 21:22.48 | Tenchworks | your not the only not able to access it |
| 21:23.35 | Industrial | its just down. but why? US is up ... |
| 21:24.16 | zenzelezz | speaking of being down, I'm surprised Kil'jaeden died so fast, considering how hard people say he is |
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| 21:29.18 | chewsocks | how do you make a frame moveable and lockable? |
| 21:30.16 | Iriel | Movable is a combination of SetMovable(true) and making sure StartMoving() and StopMovingOrSizing() are called at the right times |
| 21:31.01 | Iriel | lockable is generally just a matter of not calling frame:StartMoving() when you normally would |
| 21:31.03 | Kemayo | Generally in the "OnDragStart" handler, I think. |
| 21:32.33 | chewsocks | thanks |
| 21:36.28 | chewsocks | do i need a registerfordrag? |
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| 21:58.59 | chewsocks | I guess I do |
| 21:59.42 | dylanm | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Make_a_Frame_Draggable |
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| 22:30.20 | chewsocks | dylanm: i saw that site too but it's xml and doesn't tell me how to use that xml |
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| 22:32.45 | Funkeh` | yo |
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| 22:33.37 | foxlit | Can anyone recall offhand the template for a pretty left/right arrow button? |
| 22:35.47 | foxlit | I was thinking of GuildFrameGuildListToggleButton, but that's apparently defined in full |
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| 23:06.01 | Kajas | I have a Q about Saved Variables.. I've verified that the file is in fact being saved.. but when the ui loads.. the values from the save file aren't replaceing the default values set in the lua.. Code: http://www.pastey.net/88435 | TOC: http://www.pastey.net/88436 |
| 23:07.36 | Kirov | When are you checking? |
| 23:07.48 | Kirov | And what does the .lua in sv look like? |
| 23:10.37 | Kajas | sv? |
| 23:10.46 | Kirov | Kajas - if you run code at the moment that the .lua or the .xml are loaded, the values from the saved variables folder will not be in effect. The soonest you can be sure that they've been loaded is waiting for the "ADDON_LOADED" event |
| 23:10.52 | Kirov | sv == Saved Variables |
| 23:11.38 | Kajas | the sv file reflects the changes that I made to the table entries when I /rl but when the ui loads back up all the default values are in place.. I don't know how to read in the saved data |
| 23:11.57 | zenzelezz | you don't, the game does |
| 23:12.00 | Kajas | It's a config screen, so no codes are ran at launch |
| 23:12.15 | Kajas | ... |
| 23:12.43 | Kajas | I set all config options to false [no checkboxes ticked], I /rl, check the sv file and all options are false, when ui comes back up all checboxes are now ticked as true |
| 23:12.44 | Kirov | sv still saves nils, right? Or did we finally overturn that? |
| 23:12.56 | Kajas | Nope, that one was fixed :) |
| 23:13.12 | Kajas | THere's now a file in my SV folder with all the proper info |
| 23:13.43 | Kajas | I was looking in the wrong spot.. found out the global sv's are saved in the WoW root directory.. the per-char sv's are saved in Virtual Store |
| 23:14.18 | Kirov | Kajas - vista ... |
| 23:14.19 | zenzelezz | Vista funkiness? |
| 23:14.20 | Kirov | ew |
| 23:14.37 | Kajas | yep |
| 23:14.39 | Kirov | That could be the problem right there. |
| 23:15.15 | Kirov | It's generally advised that you install World of Warcraft someplace other than the Program Files directory if you're running Vista. |
| 23:15.26 | Kajas | I've been looking at some other codes, and they all utilized ADDON_LOADED call.. but I have yet to see where any of them first create the vars |
| 23:15.28 | Kirov | It causes all sorts of issues with addons. |
| 23:16.06 | Kirov | Kajas - the way that the game saves / loads addon saved variables is fairly straight forward. |
| 23:17.18 | Kirov | Each addon is loaded in it's entirety from the .toc file, then it looks to see if there are any .lua files with the same name in the account-wide saved variables folder, then the per-character saved variables folder, and loads each one in that order. |
| 23:18.15 | Kirov | the .lua files from the saved variable folders are basically read as-is, identical to if you just took that .lua file, made a copy of it in your addon's folder, and added it to the end of your .toc list |
| 23:18.59 | Kirov | On log out / reload of the game it just saves the .lua files in those folders based on what's currently in memory. |
| 23:20.10 | Kirov | Now, generally defaults for addons are set at the ADDON_LOADED event checking if the variables themselves are nil or not, or via a function so users can reset back to default. |
| 23:20.41 | Kirov | ADDON_LOADED is just an event that you can look for that says a particular addon has finished loading |
| 23:28.31 | Kajas | Any thought as to what would cause this addon to save the file, but not set the values? All other addons that I've installed, looked at, etc work fine.. just mine doesn't load the values as written in the saved lua file |
| 23:29.35 | Kajas | hmm.. |
| 23:30.32 | Kajas | I opened up WoWLua in the game and "print (LS_Whisper.Enabled)" shows a return of 'false'.. which is what it was when I /rl.. but the UI shows it as true (checked).. as though the var was loaded after the gui was made and the CheckState of that checkbutton set |
| 23:31.08 | Kajas | So in this case I would use the "ADDON_LOADED" event to set the check state.. yes? |
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| 23:32.29 | Kirov | Kajas - You're making the gui from the XML, and setting the values at creation time? |
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| 23:33.37 | Kirov | Usually you create the gui, set it to hidden, and setup the gui's values OnShow |
| 23:34.28 | Kirov | Then you don't care when values change, only what they are when showing the gui (assuming the gui isn't shown at all times, or the values are going to change while the gui is shown by something other than the gui itself) |
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| 23:51.07 | Kajas | Yeah.. the gui will be hidden at start |
| 23:52.02 | Kajas | It'll be accessed by clicking the main window's 'setup' button |
| 23:52.04 | |Jelly| | ~rimshot |
| 23:52.05 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
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| 23:57.08 | Kajas | Kirov: The Values are set in the LUA, when the vars are declared, all function calls just replace that data based on user response |
| 23:57.08 | krka | Kajas: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon. |
| 23:57.12 | Kajas | oops |
| 23:57.34 | Kemayo | krka is so annoyed by this that LUA is a trigger for that. |
| 23:57.48 | Kajas | ? |
| 23:57.49 | Osagasu | It is? |
| 23:57.59 | Osagasu | Then why didn't you trigger it? |
| 23:58.02 | Osagasu | :D |
| 23:58.04 | Kajas | Anti-Spam |
| 23:58.10 | Osagasu | LUA |
| 23:58.14 | Osagasu | mh |
| 23:58.18 | Kajas | probably a 30 second delay |
| 23:58.29 | Kajas | or 3 mins.. at least averagely speaking |
| 23:58.37 | Kemayo | Well, I saw it said in response to the spammer a while ago, and I was assuming that no-one would *actually* waste time responding deliberately... |
| 23:59.19 | Kirov | Kajas - when are you setting up the gui to show the values? |
