| 00:01.50 | mikma | so, why does COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED -> SPELL_AURA_APPLIED tell me my GUID is 0x0000000000000000? |
| 00:02.08 | Antiarc | Because buff/debuff applications don't have a source GUID/flags. |
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| 00:03.03 | mikma | so i had to do: 'if argX == "0x0000000000000000" then' to know it was applied to me :O |
| 00:03.42 | mikma | other than that, i could have used UnitGUID("player") but nooooo |
| 00:04.16 | NightHawkTheSane | if you want to know if it was applied TO you, you could just compare destination GUID, yeah? |
| 00:05.01 | ScytheBlade1 | mikma: you can look for the "Player X casts spell Y at Z" event |
| 00:08.32 | mikma | i'm creating a small addon for a guildie that wants people to know he has gained the buff from http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34473 |
| 00:18.10 | p3lim | the unpack function, is that ace or just lua? |
| 00:18.17 | Drundia | lua |
| 00:18.20 | p3lim | thanks |
| 00:18.29 | ScytheBlade1 | mikma: find the spell ID that the trinket adds, watch for the combat event where COMBATLOG_OBJECT_PLAYER is set and look for the spell ID of that trinket |
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| 00:36.57 | DARKGuy | ~seen kemayo |
| 00:37.15 | purl | kemayo is currently on #wowuidev (7d 13h 40m 8s) #wowace (7d 13h 40m 8s) #curseforge (7d 13h 40m 8s). Has said a total of 14 messages. Is idling for 58m 6s, last said: 'Hjalte: Okay, that could work.'. |
| 00:37.15 | DARKGuy | oops |
| 00:38.18 | batrick | 16:46:15 <@widgertick> Maybe it's too big? :P |
| 00:38.18 | batrick | 16:46:29 <@Shirik> that's what she said |
| 00:38.24 | batrick | I thought the same thing! |
| 00:38.29 | Lopeppeppy | Batrick! |
| 00:38.34 | batrick | lol! |
| 00:46.05 | Drundia | Really, maybe it's too big? |
| 00:55.55 | AlexanderYoshi | That's what he said! |
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| 00:58.59 | Shirik | cladhaire, ping |
| 01:00.29 | Adys | http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/09/safari-search-plugin-inquisitor-acquired-by-yahoo/ |
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| 01:35.55 | p3lim | what font is used in Grid? (the one with gradients) |
| 01:36.00 | p3lim | texture* sorry |
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| 01:50.54 | Footrot | Does anyone have any 2.4 combat logs floating around that show resists to taunt, growl or anything like that, that they wouldn't mind e-mailing me at all please? |
| 01:56.06 | p3lim | there are filters (libs) to show this |
| 01:56.16 | p3lim | cant remember where i found it tho, was some private svn |
| 01:56.48 | p3lim | btw, anyone knows what size the GameFontNormal has? (the height) |
| 01:58.11 | AlexanderYoshi | probably 12 or 14 |
| 02:00.02 | Shirik | hi AlexanderYoshi |
| 02:01.54 | Industrial | hi Shirik |
| 02:01.57 | AlexanderYoshi | hi Shirik |
| 02:02.01 | Cide | hi Shirik |
| 02:02.01 | Shirik | o.o! |
| 02:02.10 | Shirik | Cide, Industrial, and AlexanderYoshi are all the same person! |
| 02:02.15 | Shirik | :( |
| 02:02.39 | Shirik | don't you dare Cide |
| 02:02.46 | Cide | I won't! |
| 02:02.46 | Industrial | (xD) |
| 02:02.49 | Cide | I know who Shirik is |
| 02:02.55 | Shirik | <3 |
| 02:02.56 | Industrial | C-C-C-COMBOBREAKER |
| 02:02.59 | Industrial | anyway nn |
| 02:05.41 | p3lim | found out, was 12 |
| 02:06.10 | Lopeppeppy | Cide is 12? |
| 02:06.17 | Cide | yep |
| 02:06.21 | p3lim | that too |
| 02:10.08 | batrick | who is shirik? |
| 02:10.11 | batrick | :O |
| 02:10.30 | Shirik | Cide and Lopeppeppy know who I am ( |
| 02:10.31 | Shirik | :( |
| 02:10.56 | AlexanderYoshi | Lopeppeppy is not a real person |
| 02:10.59 | AlexanderYoshi | She is a robot |
| 02:11.17 | Shirik | possible, she refuses to wear socks |
| 02:11.19 | Lopeppeppy | Am not! |
| 02:11.20 | batrick | oi shirik |
| 02:11.26 | batrick | u do nething new with filum |
| 02:11.28 | batrick | i haven't looked |
| 02:11.29 | Lopeppeppy | Robots wouldn't care if they wore socks or not. |
| 02:11.35 | batrick | ive been really busy with nmap |
| 02:11.36 | Shirik | I have but not committed |
| 02:11.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Depends on the robot |
| 02:11.40 | AlexanderYoshi | You wear socks? |
| 02:11.42 | Shirik | and I've been driving all over the place |
| 02:11.47 | Shirik | no she doesn't AlexanderYoshi |
| 02:11.48 | Lopeppeppy | Me? Nope. |
| 02:11.51 | batrick | where to? |
| 02:11.54 | batrick | Shirik: ^ |
| 02:11.56 | Lopeppeppy | My toes wiggle fierce and free. |
| 02:12.00 | AlexanderYoshi | Then you must be a robot |
| 02:12.04 | Shirik | batrick, virginia, pennsylvania, from florida |
| 02:12.12 | Shirik | finally settled now |
| 02:12.21 | Lopeppeppy | Bah, AlexanderYoshi. Sockness does not imply robotness, nor vice versaness. |
| 02:12.40 | Shirik | you have a fallacy in your argument |
| 02:13.04 | Shirik | the statement was that lack of socks implies robotness, not the presence of socks |
| 02:13.12 | ScytheBlade1 | ... I think AlexanderYoshi may be on to something. I've not ever seen a robot with socks on before. |
| 02:13.14 | Lopeppeppy | Correlation does not imply causality, although it does indicate areas in which you can profit from additonal research. |
| 02:13.58 | Shirik | still Lopeppeppy is <3 |
| 02:14.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Not that I'll disagree with Shirik's statment there |
| 02:14.23 | Shirik | because she forgives me for my ill-witted comment earlier |
| 02:14.32 | ScytheBlade1 | ... haha |
| 02:14.40 | AlexanderYoshi | lol |
| 02:14.41 | Lopeppeppy | Was that a hint, Shirik? |
| 02:14.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: there's always a way you could prove your not a robot, but I'd probably be kicked for asking :D |
| 02:14.58 | *** kick/#wowuidev [ScytheBlade1!i=nospam@conspiracy/developer/Shirik] by Shirik (bye) |
| 02:15.02 | Lopeppeppy | I'd find a way to kick you myself, ScytheBlade1. Have respect too. |
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| 02:15.10 | ScytheBlade1 | So I was close |
| 02:15.10 | Shirik | :) |
| 02:15.58 | Lopeppeppy | Now you're totally forgiven, Shirik. |
| 02:16.02 | Shirik | <3 |
| 02:16.13 | ScytheBlade1 | And in turn it's been transfered to me? |
| 02:16.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Drat. More Lopeppeppy rep grinding. |
| 02:20.26 | Shirik | hi Cairenn |
| 02:20.29 | Shirik | socks or no socks? |
| 02:20.39 | Cairenn | depends on the situation |
| 02:22.00 | Keias | All glory to the cotton socks! |
| 02:22.36 | Lopeppeppy | Noooo. No socks. No Socks. |
| 02:22.38 | Cairenn | well yes, if you're going to wear socks, either cotton or silk |
| 02:22.48 | Lopeppeppy | Let your toes play free and wild! |
| 02:22.55 | Cairenn | (or for those that can wear it, wool) |
| 02:23.20 | Shirik | silk socks? |
| 02:23.21 | Cairenn | none of those yucky man-made materials |
| 02:23.37 | Shirik | I think I've only ever worn cotton socks |
| 02:23.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm. I just noticed that I'm not wearing any socks |
| 02:23.51 | Shirik | rep++, ScytheBlade1? |
| 02:24.01 | Shirik | For the record I'm not wearing socks either :) but it's also 10:30 PM |
| 02:24.17 | ScytheBlade1 | 8:30 here, but I've got my feet up |
| 02:24.32 | Lopeppeppy | No socks, no socks! |
| 02:24.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Debating shutting off the monitors for a few hours and just enjoying some music |
| 02:25.15 | kd3 | sigh at being off the net for nearly 2 weeks |
| 02:25.15 | kd3 | so much to catch up with |
| 02:25.15 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: :( |
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| 02:25.58 | Cairenn | welcome back kd3, you've been missed |
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| 02:26.13 | kd3 | why thank you |
| 02:27.06 | Keias | I don't like dress socks though |
| 02:27.08 | Keias | They're too thin :( |
| 02:28.14 | Lopeppeppy | Heyo, kd3! |
| 02:28.18 | kd3 | 'lo |
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| 02:38.19 | Keias | Was it Shirik that was talking about the Gold samples? |
| 02:38.29 | Shirik | lol yes |
| 02:38.31 | Lopeppeppy | Samples? |
| 02:38.47 | ckknight | anyone have any comments for this list: http://curseforge.com/licenses/ ? |
| 02:39.23 | AlexanderYoshi | Serve the hive |
| 02:40.20 | kd3 | what about the WTFPL? |
| 02:40.33 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 02:40.49 | Keias | http://i28.tinypic.com/2unztps.jpg |
| 02:40.52 | Keias | Got another today |
| 02:40.53 | Keias | lol |
| 02:41.22 | Lopeppeppy | Nice, holiday themed! |
| 02:41.32 | ckknight | kd3: frankly, I'd consider that better covered by the Public Domain |
| 02:41.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Refuses to load for me :/ |
| 02:47.45 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6417422443&sid=1 |
| 02:48.29 | Cide | what's with the interface? |
| 02:48.49 | Cide | a black/grey inbox frame totally doesn't look good with the default texture for the mail icons |
| 02:50.51 | Tem | but cide |
| 02:50.54 | Tem | it's minimal |
| 02:51.16 | Cide | oh, right |
| 03:06.41 | Shirik | so I found something very strange in the closet |
| 03:06.54 | Shirik | "Oreo Special Edition: Strawberry Milkshake Cream" |
| 03:07.02 | kd3 | o_O; |
| 03:07.42 | Shirik | hm, interesting flavor |
| 03:07.51 | Shirik | ok time for a vote |
| 03:08.23 | Shirik | Dolby and I are having an intense argument, and need a resolution. Is bbq good? |
| 03:08.34 | Shirik | BBQ! Is it good?! (vote with !yes or !no) |
| 03:08.48 | kd3 | !yes |
| 03:08.55 | Shirik | :( |
| 03:08.58 | ckknight | !yes |
| 03:09.12 | Shirik | :( :( |
| 03:09.16 | ckknight | wait, is that not yes? |
| 03:09.17 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy help me out here! |
| 03:09.18 | ckknight | oh noes |
| 03:09.20 | Shirik | it is |
| 03:09.30 | ckknight | BBQ is good |
| 03:09.52 | kd3 | indeed |
| 03:09.54 | Shirik | so messy and the flavor is so strange |
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| 03:10.03 | Shirik | and you never get to eat enough because it isn't filling |
| 03:11.51 | Shirik | bleh, nobody voted no :( |
| 03:11.51 | Dolby | Babyback ribs are good! |
| 03:12.00 | Shirik | result: BBQ! Is it good?! (yes: 2 - no: 0) |
| 03:12.00 | Shirik | voted: kd3 (y) ckknight (y) |
| 03:12.27 | Shirik | ribs aren't filling |
| 03:12.31 | Shirik | they give you this huge plate of it |
| 03:12.42 | Shirik | and then you realize after eating that 80% of what they gave you isn't edable |
| 03:12.44 | Shirik | edible |
| 03:12.55 | Lopeppeppy | BBQ is okay, but Fried Green Tomatoes sort of turned me off it. |
| 03:13.02 | Dolby | I'm talking about ribs |
| 03:13.07 | Dolby | not bbq |
| 03:13.10 | Shirik | fried green tomatoes? |
| 03:13.22 | Shirik | ribs are too messy |
| 03:13.26 | Dolby | get a full rack of baby back ribs |
| 03:13.32 | Shirik | like, we had this place, Damons |
| 03:13.33 | Dolby | nah |
| 03:13.39 | Shirik | they had good food, don't get me wrong |
| 03:13.39 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, watch the movie. You'll never eat BBQ the same way again. |
| 03:13.51 | Lopeppeppy | Messy is fun, Shirik. *slow grin* |
| 03:13.55 | Shirik | but seriously, when they brought you ribs, they didn't even bring you napkins |
| 03:14.08 | Shirik | they brought you a paper towel roll on a little dispenser thingy |
| 03:14.32 | Dolby | the place i linked you, when you order out they have a bucket full of wetnaps and nappkins |
| 03:14.34 | Shirik | and you'd use the whole roll |
| 03:14.49 | Shirik | haha Lopeppeppy |
| 03:14.49 | Lopeppeppy | A box of baby wipes and you're good to go. |
| 03:14.54 | Dolby | lol |
| 03:18.10 | Shirik | btw |
| 03:18.21 | Shirik | Dolby has moved out of the country and no longer exists |
| 03:18.26 | Shirik | as a result, I am taking over wowinterface |
| 03:18.32 | Shirik | thanks for your time |
| 03:18.50 | Cairenn | going to take over my stuff as well? |
| 03:18.53 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm. Yeah. Sure. |
| 03:18.57 | Shirik | he told me so! |
| 03:19.00 | Dolby | finally that idiot dolby is gone |
| 03:19.20 | Shirik | no Cairenn, I know how much you love the community, we need to keep you here :) |
| 03:20.12 | Lopeppeppy | Seriously, you almost suckered him. |
| 03:20.16 | Dolby | omg Cairenn with a mustache |
| 03:20.22 | Cairenn | heh, I tried ;) |
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| 04:49.28 | batrick | http://www.unm.edu/~batrick/files/epic_fail.jpg |
| 04:49.37 | batrick | look at the look on all their faces |
| 04:49.40 | Sixen | pwnt |
| 04:49.41 | batrick | picture is priceless |
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| 05:03.33 | Wizardling | Well, I've come to a couple conclusions over the past week trying to sort out a decent collection of addons for WoW |
| 05:03.56 | Wizardling | firstly that current intergration sucks |
| 05:04.13 | Wizardling | addons should play much nicer with each other |
| 05:04.27 | Wizardling | I blame Blizzard, so don't get huffy, ok? |
| 05:05.38 | Wizardling | secondly it seems almost pointless trying to assemble a decent collection of addons unless you do it slowly, one addon added after another, or it's damn near impossible to work out what's changing what |
| 05:07.11 | Wizardling | Where does that leave me? Well currently I'm looking at http://www.curse.com/downloads/compilations/browse/?s=4:1 |
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| 05:08.33 | Wizardling | User made compilations may not be perfect, and have a lot of the same limitations COSMOS (what I was mainly using till a week ago) does, but at least you can be fairly certain they'll work together. Config's still a bitch though. |
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| 05:16.05 | dylanm | I think everyone should assemble their own collection in the manner you described. |
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| 05:19.35 | Wizardling | dylanm - you mean my process of trial and error, or my newfound interest in user compilations? |
| 05:21.37 | batrick | wut!? |
| 05:22.07 | Fisker- | i slapped you |
| 05:23.16 | batrick | batbot is fisker terribad? |
| 05:23.16 | batbot | batrick, As I see it, yes. |
| 05:23.23 | batrick | wut wut |
| 05:24.06 | Fisker- | batbot is batrick terribad? |
| 05:24.07 | batbot | Fisker-, Very doubtful. |
| 05:24.10 | Fisker- | i hate you |
| 05:24.22 | DARKGuy | So much hating :o |
| 05:24.30 | Fisker- | ewwww |
| 05:24.41 | Fisker- | incgamers have a massive section of links on the official forums ;_; |
| 05:27.59 | Fisker- | batbot is incgamers terribad? |
| 05:28.00 | batbot | Fisker-, Are you kidding? |
| 05:28.03 | Fisker- | batrick |
| 05:28.05 | Fisker- | your bot is broken |
| 05:28.07 | Fisker- | fix it |
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| 05:34.55 | DARKGuy | Hm, anybody knows how do I get the arg1 from an event? say to know the argument returned in GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE which is 1 if there has been any change? |
| 05:37.09 | dylanm | DARKGuy: Your OnEvent function gets sent self, the name of the event, and then arg1, arg2, arg3, ... |
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| 05:39.40 | DARKGuy | dylanm, oh okay, yeah I noticed what you meant in wowwiki/Events but I wanted to be sure since there were a lot of approaches |
| 05:39.58 | dylanm | I mean, there's also a global called arg1. |
| 05:40.13 | dylanm | But that sucks. |
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| 05:43.11 | DARKGuy | yeah :/ |
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| 05:59.10 | Kyahx | ok, odd problem. I'm hijacking the default blizz buttons (ActionButton1, ActionButton2, etc...) to make them state-swappable. They will visually change when I hold shift...and clicking on them works as expected. But I can't use my keybinds. ??? |
| 06:00.40 | Kyahx | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/87623 :( |
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| 06:25.17 | Fisker- | nothing like doing "Blast the gateway" several times |
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| 06:29.56 | Fisker- | omg i completed it |
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| 06:47.10 | cladhaire | lol |
| 06:47.12 | cladhaire | http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/wonkette/full/~3/287282556/god-sends-his-only-severe-thunderstorm-to-jenna-bushs-wedding |
| 06:47.24 | Gngsk | Kyahx, did you add states for shift-...? |
| 06:48.10 | Kyahx | yea |
| 06:48.30 | Kyahx | Gngsk: it pages fine, and I can click on them and they work. Just won't use the keybinds correctly |
| 06:49.13 | Gngsk | ok, yah, you don't have keybinds for those combos already, right? |
| 06:49.39 | Kyahx | well, I shouldnt need keybinds for the combos :P it should be paging the actual bar |
| 06:50.14 | Gngsk | oh, i misunderstood, sry |
| 06:50.28 | Kyahx | manually re-setting the keybinds during OnEnable seems to fix the problem, but that feels hackish |
| 06:50.34 | Kyahx | to hardcore keybinds >.> |
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| 06:59.14 | DARKGuy | Anybody here uses AceComm? I'm having a little issue here, it seems to send the message but I never receive it: http://ace.pastey.net/87624 |
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| 07:48.24 | dakduvel | hi |
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| 08:53.20 | DARKGuy | Hey, anybody knows how would I go about hooking a function to SendChatMessage? (using Ace, but it can be without it too) |
| 08:55.57 | batrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:56.00 | batrick | ? |
| 08:57.22 | DARKGuy | Hm I guess that could work o.O |
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| 08:58.59 | DARKGuy | batrick, it works! thanks a lot :D |
| 08:59.43 | Mikk | don't hook sendchatmessage |
| 09:00.11 | DARKGuy | why not? |
| 09:00.27 | Mikk | because you taint framexml |
| 09:00.33 | DARKGuy | :/ |
| 09:00.39 | batrick | really? |
| 09:00.46 | DARKGuy | How would I receive the chat messages instead, then? |
| 09:00.52 | batrick | DARKGuy: use securehook() then I guess |
| 09:00.52 | Mikk | .... receive? |
| 09:00.57 | Mikk | sendchatmessage is for sending out |
| 09:00.59 | Mikk | not receiving |
| 09:01.01 | DARKGuy | yes |
| 09:01.15 | DARKGuy | I want to get what I send to the guild channel - but I guess it could work too if I -get- what is being sent through it |
| 09:01.47 | Mikk | acecomm3 does i know. dno about 2 |
| 09:02.38 | DARKGuy | Ace3 is a mess to use right now, there's too much lack of documentation for my learning experience so I'm staying with Ace2 |
| 09:02.51 | DARKGuy | so the WoW API has no way for me to get what is received through the guild channel no? |
| 09:03.19 | batrick | FFS |
| 09:03.31 | batrick | who the fuck decided it was a good idea to reformat wowwiki |
| 09:03.38 | batrick | can't find fucking shit |
| 09:03.44 | batrick | !g securehook site:wowwiki.com |
| 09:03.45 | batbot | batrick: no results |
| 09:03.49 | batrick | perfect |
| 09:04.05 | DARKGuy | lol :/ |
| 09:04.10 | DARKGuy | yeah the change was kinda harsh |
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| 09:04.55 | batrick | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_hooksecurefunc |
| 09:04.57 | batrick | you want that |
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| 09:06.01 | batrick | so instead it would be: hooksecurefunc("SendChatMessage", function(...) ... end) |
| 09:06.07 | batrick | (pretty easy) |
| 09:06.25 | DARKGuy | batrick, yeah that could work too :o |
| 09:06.38 | batrick | Only use that if you have to because it's kinda expensive so I hear |
| 09:07.03 | DARKGuy | On a second thought, that'll only work for those who have the addon though :( I need it to work for those who don't, so the ones having the addon can "relay" the messages sent by the ones who don't have the addon instead |
| 09:07.17 | DARKGuy | *sent to the ones |
| 09:07.31 | batrick | What are you trying to do exactly? |
| 09:07.51 | DARKGuy | an inter-guild chat communication addon |
| 09:09.10 | DARKGuy | in short, for the moment, I need to know how do I get the messages that have been sent to the Guild channel, so the addon can relay it to another member in party/raid/bg group to its guild channel |
| 09:09.28 | batrick | ah |
| 09:09.50 | batrick | In that case, you want to just read what comes in through the message events |
| 09:09.57 | DARKGuy | exactlt! :D |
| 09:10.01 | batrick | and send it to some guy who also has the addon to relay via SendChatMessage |
| 09:10.02 | DARKGuy | *exactly :P |
| 09:10.08 | DARKGuy | yup :D |
| 09:10.09 | batrick | you don't need to be doing hooks :P |
| 09:10.16 | DARKGuy | yeah I realized right now x) |
| 09:11.08 | batrick | so set your addon up for "CHAT_MSG_GUILD" |
| 09:11.31 | DARKGuy | say, guy1 from guildA has the addon and guy2 from guildB too. They join a 25-man raid group but the whole guild want to chat to each other, not only the raid group. So, when a guild message arrives on guildA, guy1 will send it to any in the raid group who has the addon, in this case guy2, which will send the message received to its guildB channel :) |
| 09:11.53 | DARKGuy | Ah, I'm looking for events then |
| 09:12.26 | batrick | and have it broadcast the message via http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SendAddonMessage |
| 09:12.52 | DARKGuy | yes I have that part already set :D |
| 09:13.05 | batrick | ok well then you should be good :P |
| 09:14.06 | DARKGuy | I think so, let me try ^_^ |
| 09:14.17 | DARKGuy | yeaaaaaah |
| 09:14.18 | DARKGuy | it works |
| 09:14.21 | DARKGuy | :D :D :D |
| 09:15.44 | DARKGuy | batrick, thanks a lot :) |
| 09:16.16 | batrick | np |
| 09:18.12 | Fisker- | it's a bag |
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| 09:23.43 | batrick | night |
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| 10:31.02 | Shot | anyone know where I might submit a bug for daviesh's atlasloot? |
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| 10:56.52 | Fisker- | heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey |
| 10:56.56 | Fisker- | i just thought of a thing |
| 10:57.12 | Fisker- | Blizzard was talking about these "Legacy" (Account-wide) items |
| 10:57.25 | Fisker- | They should let all the fun-items be legacy |
| 10:58.25 | DARKGuy | such as snowballs! |
| 10:58.29 | DARKGuy | and toy dragons! |
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| 11:21.39 | mikma | minipets! |
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| 11:29.14 | Fisker- | and your mother |
| 11:29.15 | Fisker- | :) |
| 11:29.32 | DARKGuy | lol |
| 11:29.40 | DARKGuy | its mothers day |
| 11:29.42 | DARKGuy | no insulting mom today |
| 11:29.43 | DARKGuy | k? |
| 11:29.57 | Fisker- | i already gave your mom her present |
| 11:29.58 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 11:30.06 | DARKGuy | you rat |
| 11:30.06 | DARKGuy | lol |
| 11:30.11 | zenzelezz | and what a tiny present it was |
| 11:30.12 | Drundia | was it bomb? |
| 11:30.17 | DARKGuy | rofl |
| 11:30.24 | Fisker- | oh snap zenzelezz |
| 11:30.52 | Fisker- | it's not the size, but the jizz that matters |
| 11:30.56 | Fisker- | etc. |
| 11:31.01 | DARKGuy | that's what they say |
| 11:31.12 | DARKGuy | but, lies |
| 11:31.13 | DARKGuy | :P |
| 11:32.52 | DARKGuy | wowwiki is so hard sometimes ><... |
| 11:32.57 | DARKGuy | anybody knows how do I know if a player is online? oO |
| 11:33.59 | Tem | do you have a unitid? |
| 11:34.04 | Tem | or just a name? |
| 11:34.29 | DARKGuy | the name |
| 11:35.17 | Tem | are they in your party or raid? |
| 11:35.25 | DARKGuy | they can be in both :P |
| 11:35.36 | DARKGuy | I'm checking for party & raid |
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| 11:35.42 | Tem | not what I'm asking |
| 11:35.54 | Tem | is it guaranteed that they'll be in your pary/raid? |
| 11:35.59 | DARKGuy | Oh, yes |
| 11:37.06 | Tem | UnitIsConnected |
| 11:38.39 | DARKGuy | Tem|AFK, hey thanks :) ... blizzard has such an inconsistent function naming convention sometimes x_X |
| 11:39.34 | Tem|AFK | l2wowwiki |
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| 13:25.54 | Crysli | Is it possible to run a /console command through an addon? |
| 13:29.13 | Drundia | ConsoleExec() |
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| 13:53.11 | Polarin1 | I sang to my parents for 25 minutes the "100 bottles hanging on the wall" song and I failed to get on their nerves. :( |
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| 13:55.59 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 13:56.00 | purl | pong |
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| 13:56.52 | Cide | hi Shirik |
| 13:56.56 | Kalroth | ~pong |
| 13:56.56 | purl | ping |
| 13:57.01 | Shirik | hi Cide |
| 13:57.52 | Shirik | Polarin1, did you sing the entire song? |
| 13:59.20 | Polarin1 | Shirik: Yes, the entire song. |
| 14:00.27 | Cide | nice. well played |
| 14:00.44 | Snago | Polarin1: Your parents are obviusly defect.. You should send them back to have them replaced... |
| 14:01.50 | Polarin1 | Snago: They wanted to know how the song ended as they've never heard the end before. :P |
| 14:03.07 | Snago | Is it just me or is it only instant spells that get a combat log SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS? |
| 14:03.46 | Shirik | that's in the combat log? |
| 14:04.45 | Shirik | ?? |
| 14:04.50 | Shirik | when did they change the food pyramid? |
| 14:05.00 | Snago | yes. Works fine for instant spells, but I get nothing for longer casts |
| 14:05.05 | Drundia | Snago, pretty much yes |
| 14:05.19 | Drundia | non-instants only get cast start one |
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| 14:06.13 | Shirik | in any case |
| 14:06.20 | Shirik | is UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED not good enough for you? |
| 14:06.32 | Drundia | it doesn't have target |
| 14:06.39 | Snago | oh, and a failed if they fail? so I have to track when they start, wait out the cast time and if I got no SPELL_CAST_FAILED it was successful? |
| 14:06.53 | Shirik | UNIT_SPELLCAST_INTERRUPTED |
| 14:07.03 | Shirik | or FAILED |
| 14:07.15 | Shirik | Drundia, does he need the target? |
| 14:07.18 | Shirik | he didn't say this |
| 14:07.42 | Snago | I don't need a target. But since I already needed CLEU for something else i thought I could use it for both.. Bah, I guess I'll use good old UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED |
| 14:08.21 | Drundia | If you don't need target, UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED is likely to be good enough for you :) |
| 14:08.40 | Snago | Is it working as intended or it it a bug? |
| 14:10.17 | Drundia | Until 2.4 most spells never had cast success events, and non-instants had cast start except for nearby party party members (pet and you included) |
| 14:10.31 | Drundia | I believe it is working as intended. |
| 14:10.56 | Drundia | If I'm not mistaken cast successes were added to instants to help track aura sources |
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| 14:27.30 | frop | hello |
| 14:27.50 | Shirik | hi |
| 14:28.03 | frop | anyone know an addon similar to accountant? |
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| 14:29.30 | Shirik | frop broke my irc :( |
| 14:29.34 | Shirik | now what were you asking? |
| 14:29.39 | frop | anyone know an addon similar to accountant? |
| 14:29.42 | frop | ^^ |
| 14:29.47 | Shirik | hm, what's it do? |
| 14:29.53 | Cide | those questions always boggle me |
| 14:30.04 | Cide | why do you want an addon that is similar to one you already know of? |
| 14:30.06 | frop | expenditure and incoming golds log |
| 14:30.14 | Shirik | there's a fubar module to do that |
| 14:30.18 | Shirik | but I have to ask Cide's question as well |
| 14:30.21 | frop | Cide cause it's outdated and it bugs sometimes |
| 14:30.35 | frop | Shirik MoneyFU? |
| 14:30.51 | Shirik | that sounds right |
| 14:31.21 | frop | got it, but this accountant is more "modular"...i mean, it has diffent incoming/outgoing money sources |
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| 14:31.35 | frop | like, AH/vendors/quests/raids |
| 14:31.40 | Shirik | please don't say that word >< |
| 14:31.49 | dylanm | There was something that sounded similar on the forums recently. |
| 14:31.49 | frop | ehehe |
| 14:32.35 | dylanm | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10889.0 |
| 14:33.16 | dylanm | Looks kind of promising actually. |
| 14:33.42 | frop | looking at it :) |
| 14:34.44 | frop | aye...sound like what i'm looking for ^^ thank you |
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| 14:53.11 | Sami | anyone who would mind giving me some help with an addon? |
| 14:53.49 | Lopeppeppy | Which addon, and please describe your problem? |
| 14:58.11 | Shirik | ~asktoask |
| 14:58.13 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 14:59.49 | Sami | took it to pm shirik, thanks |
| 14:59.59 | Shirik | that's generally a bad idea, but ok |
| 15:00.24 | zenzelezz | if he wants to limit the number of people who can help him, that's his choice |
| 15:00.45 | Shirik | that it is :) |
| 15:01.18 | Sami | ok well I dont think Lopeppeppy could help so I'll put my question out there :P |
| 15:01.57 | Sami | Ref this lua script - http://rafb.net/p/fwkO4840.html |
| 15:02.14 | Shirik | I already see your problem |
| 15:02.14 | Sami | line 1201 calls function to make player in raid /say |
| 15:02.16 | Shirik | or at least A problem |
| 15:02.30 | Shirik | But you shouldn't use that pastebin anyway |
| 15:02.47 | Shirik | line 29 needs to have AddOn capitalized |
| 15:03.12 | Shirik | or I take it back |
| 15:03.29 | Lopeppeppy | It's nice to be known as the One Who Cannot Help. Huh. |
| 15:03.32 | Shirik | keep going, sorry :) |
| 15:03.39 | Shirik | aww, Lopeppeppy :( <3 |
| 15:03.49 | Sami | well, I am just a client user of this addon |
| 15:03.53 | Lopeppeppy | That's why I keep you around, Shirik, you shore up my weak spots. :) |
| 15:04.27 | Sami | but I'd like to know the CHAT_MSG_Addon event that calls the clients to call that function |
| 15:04.36 | Sami | but I suck at addon coding :P |
| 15:04.54 | dylanm | Well, look for ISCore_SayWarning_Trigger. |
| 15:05.18 | Sami | 23-40 basically confuses me |
| 15:05.23 | Shirik | it's surely CHAT_MSG_ADDON, but I would strongly discourage the use of this addon as a means of learning how to do something |
| 15:05.28 | dylanm | Looks like "ISC_S_Warn". |
| 15:05.34 | Sami | I know enough to know thats the answer but I fail at actually interpreting it |
| 15:06.01 | Shirik | the call is in the block with if event == "CHAT_MSG_ADDON" then |
| 15:06.10 | dylanm | Yup. |
| 15:06.36 | Sami | so what do I type in my ui to make ppl /say :D |
| 15:07.13 | Shirik | hm |
| 15:07.16 | dylanm | He's using arg1 for... the type? How bizarre. |
| 15:07.19 | Sami | line 29 confuses me :P |
| 15:07.29 | Shirik | I don't think I can in good conscience answer that question |
| 15:07.52 | Sami | damn, you made tonight's raid less fun :( |
| 15:07.55 | dylanm | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:08.59 | Sami | pls :P |
| 15:10.08 | dylanm | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:10.27 | Sami | ha, nice |
| 15:10.36 | dylanm | Shirik: Yeah the inconsistent capitalization is maddening. |
| 15:11.23 | Shirik | you know Sami I would like to point something out |
| 15:11.29 | Sami | oh? |
| 15:11.30 | Shirik | when you "took it to PM" |
| 15:11.33 | Shirik | you actually didn't |
| 15:11.41 | Shirik | you aren't identified, so you can't send PMs |
| 15:11.48 | Lopeppeppy | ^^ |
| 15:11.52 | Sami | ah right, apologies to Lopeppeppy |
| 15:12.18 | Lopeppeppy | I was wondering how I'd been so unhelpful so fast. That 'splains it. Shirik does a better job devolving code than I ever could. |
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| 15:14.01 | Sami | btw dylanm, that was to trigger a raid warning, what was it to make raid members /say |
| 15:15.03 | Lopeppeppy | Um.... doesn't that sort of count as spoofing them, and just might be something the GM's would take exception to? |
| 15:15.54 | dylanm | Sami: Are you sure? Have you tried it? |
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| 15:16.28 | Sami | nope :s |
| 15:16.59 | dylanm | Oooh there's a SecurityCheck. What does that do |
| 15:17.25 | Shirik | heh |
| 15:17.29 | Sami | probably screws me |
| 15:17.29 | Shirik | must be officer or leader |
| 15:17.39 | dylanm | Only if they have that turned on though. |
| 15:18.41 | dylanm | Lopeppeppy is right though this is not the best idea unless you're sure everyone will take it well. |
| 15:19.04 | Sami | aye im sure |
| 15:19.13 | Sami | doubt it will work tho due to security check |
| 15:19.23 | Sami | as im not officer |
| 15:19.28 | Sami | or class leader |
| 15:19.35 | Lopeppeppy | Spoofing another characters is... more than a grey area. Not a place I'd mess with personally. What one person thinks is funny, another person files a GM ticket over. |
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| 15:20.30 | Sami | well everyone in raid runs this guild addon |
| 15:20.47 | zenzelezz | that doesn't mean they'll find it funny |
| 15:20.48 | Sami | being spoofed everytime a boss uses x ability |
| 15:20.52 | zenzelezz | I'd disable the addon right away |
| 15:21.42 | Sami | all the raid addons spoof people dont they |
| 15:21.50 | Sami | bigwigs, deadly boss mobs etc.. |
| 15:21.50 | zenzelezz | no |
| 15:21.56 | Lopeppeppy | No. |
| 15:21.57 | Sami | not with /say but in some form or another |
| 15:22.01 | Shirik | not necessarily, but that's also not the point |
| 15:22.17 | zenzelezz | Sami: when they do, it's a client-side setting, not something someone else triggers |
| 15:22.17 | Lopeppeppy | They share a warning through the raid warnings, they never make it appear someone is saying something they are not. There is a difference. :) |
| 15:22.41 | Sami | true i guess |
| 15:22.48 | Shirik | There's a difference between having a raid addon say something because that's what it was designed to do and spoofing packets to make someone say something that they never expected |
| 15:24.14 | Kaso | Our old guild addon had a bug which basically allowed you to execute arbitary lua code on anyone's client, that was amusing. |
| 15:24.25 | Kaso | Luckly only me and the author really knew enough to understand it |
| 15:24.28 | Shirik | but I'm not going to tell you what to do and what not to do, Sami |
| 15:24.39 | Shirik | That's up to you |
| 15:25.22 | Sami | another thing I've been wondering that you guys most likely know the answer to |
| 15:25.37 | Sami | is it possible to view addon channels |
| 15:25.46 | Shirik | not directly |
| 15:25.57 | Kaso | The author tried to write a de/serialisation method to allow him to send aribtary tables of data around quickly, but ofc course he decided to use "loadstring" for this aim, and you can guess from that point. |
| 15:26.11 | Shirik | you have two easy solutions: Write code to print out the addon channels or use devtools |
| 15:26.25 | Shirik | Kaso, I almost did that. Then I decided to write my own serialization system for that reason :) |
| 15:26.46 | zenzelezz | I thought there already was at least one addon that showed what goes on in the addon channel? |
| 15:26.54 | Shirik | devtools can |
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| 15:26.59 | Shirik | with /dteventtrace |
| 15:27.02 | Sami | you should have emptied the raids gold into your own kaso :P |
| 15:27.23 | Shirik | see Sami that's the difference between you and Kaso :) |
| 15:27.28 | Kaso | hehe |
| 15:27.41 | Kaso | I just made the guild leader yell out how silly he was |
| 15:28.16 | Sami | Shirik: It'd get the security hole plugged pretty quick :P |
| 15:28.30 | Shirik | is destructive attacks, even if temporary, the right way to get that done? |
| 15:28.38 | Shirik | Now there's a question with no right answer |
| 15:28.53 | Sami | depends on your point of view |
| 15:29.12 | Kaso | depends entirely on the situation, theres no general anwser possible |
| 15:29.59 | Shirik | Kaso I should also point out that was one of my uses of foxlit's RSA system |
| 15:30.13 | Sami | I'm sure there are plenty of similar situations (not limited to code) of things that people know should be fixed but they lack incentive |
| 15:30.20 | Kaso | Shirik signing the tables? |
| 15:30.21 | Shirik | I was going to distribute patches over the addon channel, so I was going to sign all patches before they're sent out because it's arbitrary code |
| 15:30.35 | Kaso | ah cool |
| 15:30.42 | Kaso | Isnt it kinda slow though? |
| 15:30.47 | Shirik | really only the signing part |
| 15:30.55 | Shirik | verification was rather quick |
| 15:33.36 | Shirik | stick it in a coroutine that only runs a tiny portion every frame (practically unnoticable and it was only a couple of seconds |
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| 15:33.48 | sami2 | that web client was getting annoying |
| 15:33.52 | Shirik | since it's a background task anyway, the user would never know |
| 15:34.03 | Shirik | for all they know it happened instantly |
| 15:34.14 | Kaso | I wish coroutines spawned real threads :< |
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| 15:34.50 | Shirik | lua> return type(coroutine.create(function() end)) |
| 15:34.51 | lua_bot | Shirik: thread |
| 15:34.53 | Shirik | :D |
| 15:35.07 | Kaso | yah but i cant run four at the same time :< |
| 15:35.26 | Shirik | Kaso, I really grow nervous over what would happen if we had access to spawn new threads |
| 15:35.30 | cladhaire | well technically you're not running four threads at the same time. |
| 15:35.35 | cladhaire | its not really any different. |
| 15:35.42 | Shirik | how much of the UI community, do you think, knows how to deal with race conditions? |
| 15:35.44 | cladhaire | you just can't preempt coroutines |
| 15:36.02 | ckknight | Shirik: race conditions are fun for the whole family |
| 15:36.32 | Shirik | you know, Kaso, you just gave me a fun idea to play with over the next few weeks |
| 15:36.38 | Kaso | oh really? |
| 15:36.45 | Fisker- | kd3! |
| 15:36.47 | Fisker- | you are back |
| 15:36.59 | kd3 | yes... 2 weeks of no net access was painful |
| 15:37.23 | haste | at least your ISP didn't null route you for a month |
| 15:37.29 | Shirik | ?! |
| 15:37.33 | cladhaire | your mom is a null route |
| 15:37.35 | Shirik | why did they do that? |
| 15:37.37 | Fisker- | i once null routed your mother haste |
| 15:37.38 | Fisker- | damnit cladhaire |
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| 15:37.52 | cladhaire | <3 |
| 15:38.00 | haste | Shirik: some shit kid DoS-ed me |
| 15:38.17 | haste | and my old ISP sucked hard on everything technical, so they null routed the wrong IP |
| 15:38.24 | kd3 | ouch |
| 15:38.28 | haste | then they didn't manage to restore routing afterwards |
| 15:39.04 | haste | at least I got free net and phone for 4 months |
| 15:39.07 | cladhaire | :P |
| 15:39.10 | haste | too bad I moved 2 months later |
| 15:44.11 | Sami | shirik what was that dev tool you mentioned earlier? |
| 15:45.42 | Kaso | ~devtools |
| 15:45.43 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 15:46.05 | Sami | thanks |
| 15:46.14 | Kaso | No author should be without it |
| 15:46.50 | Shirik | hm, just got a call from a friend |
| 15:46.56 | Shirik | apparently one of my neighbors was arrested for murder o.o |
| 15:47.12 | Shirik | fortunately I don't live there anymore, but still |
| 15:47.36 | _rane | technically it's not your neighbor then? |
| 15:47.45 | _rane | ! |
| 15:47.47 | Shirik | well it's my legal residence :P |
| 15:47.55 | Sami | not his for much longer |
| 15:52.45 | Kaso | murder thats pretty crazy |
| 15:52.50 | Kaso | did you know the person? |
| 15:53.02 | Shirik | I always knew he wasn't one to hang around with |
| 15:53.08 | Shirik | didn't think he was that messed up though |
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| 15:57.00 | _Sami | So how was it I can use DevTools to listen to a certain addon channel? |
| 15:57.39 | Shirik | use /dteventtrace and enable only CHAT_MSG_ADDON |
| 15:57.52 | Shirik | click the little ? button to change the events being shown |
| 15:59.06 | _Sami | think I might buy the book in the topic, I'm too ignorant to all this :P |
| 15:59.25 | Cide | not a bad idea |
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| 16:05.04 | _Sami | prior to 1.12 how did the guild tab update information relating to zone etc.. |
| 16:06.55 | _Sami | nm |
| 16:17.37 | Shirik | it doesn't |
| 16:17.45 | Shirik | it updates each time it is opened or somehow changed |
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| 17:00.46 | Furl | ...I liked 'lounge' better |
| 17:01.07 | Shirik | so /join #wowi-lounge :) |
| 17:01.15 | Furl | Got redir-d here somehow |
| 17:01.20 | Cide | that's the point |
| 17:01.23 | Shirik | :) |
| 17:01.28 | Furl | . . |
| 17:02.32 | Kaso | im in the crew of people who still adamantly join wowi-lounge |
| 17:03.02 | Fisker- | can't be bothered to change the autojoin when you get redirected anyways |
| 17:04.53 | Furl | Aye |
| 17:08.17 | Industrial | I have a http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28584, should I get http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=27972 on it |
| 17:08.30 | Industrial | or wait til i get http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28305 |
| 17:08.36 | Industrial | as offhand later today, and put it on that? |
| 17:09.05 | Furl | Do the bots still work though? ... |
| 17:09.06 | Furl | lua> os.date("%x, %X"); |
| 17:09.06 | lua_bot | Furl: 05/11/08, 18:09:06 |
| 17:09.13 | Furl | Yay |
| 17:09.43 | [dRaCo] | Industrial: why potency? |
| 17:10.20 | _Sami | executioner and mongoose are better |
| 17:10.30 | [dRaCo] | even crusader is better |
| 17:10.56 | [dRaCo] | if you're not a rogue, that is |
| 17:11.10 | Industrial | I am shaman |
| 17:11.18 | [dRaCo] | but since potency sucks for rogues, I assume... yeah |
| 17:11.22 | mikma | http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/12037/ |
| 17:11.36 | [dRaCo] | get crusader, it's prolly cheaper and better |
| 17:11.45 | Industrial | two potencies is 40 str is 80 AP |
| 17:11.52 | [dRaCo] | nice math skills |
| 17:12.20 | Industrial | well you arent telling me why its better, why shoild I just go and get it |
| 17:12.33 | Industrial | this is for PVP |
| 17:12.45 | Kaso | why doesnt os.date format the date in ISO8601 ? |
| 17:12.53 | Furl | mikma: Could just packet sniff >.> |
| 17:13.09 | Shirik | lua> os.date() |
| 17:13.10 | lua_bot | Shirik: Sun May 11 18:13:10 2008 |
| 17:13.11 | mikma | sniffffff |
| 17:13.26 | Fisker- | lua> os.info() |
| 17:13.26 | lua_bot | Fisker-: luabot:1: attempt to call field 'info' (a nil value) |
| 17:13.28 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 17:13.32 | haste | lua_bot lives in the past! |
| 17:13.33 | Fisker- | lua> os.uptime() |
| 17:13.34 | lua_bot | Fisker-: luabot:1: attempt to call field 'uptime' (a nil value) |
| 17:13.36 | Fisker- | noes |
| 17:13.38 | Fisker- | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:13.40 | Fisker- | screw you |
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| 17:13.45 | Industrial | [dRaCo]: ? |
| 17:13.46 | Shirik | seems right to me haste :P |
| 17:13.48 | Shirik | it's UTC |
| 17:13.51 | [dRaCo] | Industrial: crusader's got 60 Str per proc |
| 17:13.57 | Fisker- | nah Shirik |
| 17:14.01 | Industrial | 100 |
| 17:14.04 | [dRaCo] | nope |
| 17:14.08 | [dRaCo] | not @ 70 |
| 17:14.23 | Industrial | okay well whats the procrate |
| 17:14.37 | Industrial | and the chance i'd kill someone with it in pvp, versus 40 always |
| 17:15.23 | Industrial | also, mongoose is too expensive for me :p |
| 17:16.02 | [dRaCo] | yeah... for PvP I'd go for executioner anyway |
| 17:16.10 | [dRaCo] | but lemme check the crusader stuff |
| 17:16.17 | Duman | what class are you? |
| 17:16.51 | Duman | (and what spec) |
| 17:17.25 | [dRaCo] | enhancement shaman, if I got that right |
| 17:18.06 | [dRaCo] | seems like the procrate is something like weapon speed * 1.82 |
| 17:18.47 | Furl | lua> os.date("Y-%m-%dT%H:%M");//Think this is 8601? |
| 17:18.47 | lua_bot | Furl: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '/' |
| 17:18.53 | Furl | lua> os.date("Y-%m-%dT%H:%M"); |
| 17:18.54 | lua_bot | Furl: Y-05-11T18:18 |
| 17:19.03 | Furl | Beh, leading %, but ya |
| 17:19.50 | Furl | also, forgot LUA X( |
| 17:19.50 | krka | Furl: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon. |
| 17:20.07 | Furl | YOU STOLE MY PURL |
| 17:20.10 | Furl | ~nuke krka |
| 17:20.10 | purl | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at krka ... B☢☢M! |
| 17:20.47 | Drundia | hmmm did we also have |
| 17:20.48 | Drundia | ~lua |
| 17:20.49 | purl | Lua is a powerful light-weight programming language designed for extending applications. It is often used as a configuration language. See http://www.lua.org/. Note: Lua is not an acronym its a word in Portuguese that means "moon". |
| 17:20.52 | Drundia | oh yes! |
| 17:21.08 | Drundia | If purl agrees with krka then krka is right! |
| 17:21.12 | Furl | ~canada |
| 17:21.13 | purl | We're sorry we called your president a moron, I mean he IS a moron but it wasn't nice of us to point it out. besides it's not like you voted him into office. |
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| 17:24.39 | Furl | lua> os.date("!%c") |
| 17:24.40 | lua_bot | Furl: Sun May 11 17:24:39 2008 |
| 17:25.51 | Polarin1 | You need ISO compliant dates. Like 2008-05-11 17:23:44 |
| 17:26.06 | Kaso | mmm, gogo iso8601 ! |
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| 17:26.25 | Industrial | Duman: enh sham |
| 17:26.56 | Furl | lua> os.getenv("HOME"); |
| 17:26.57 | lua_bot | Furl: luabot:1: attempt to call field 'getenv' (a nil value) |
| 17:27.14 | Furl | =( |
| 17:27.32 | Polarin1 | lua> getmetatable(_G) |
| 17:27.33 | lua_bot | Polarin1: table: 0x631000 |
| 17:27.37 | Polarin1 | o.O |
| 17:28.33 | Furl | lua> getfend(0) |
| 17:28.34 | lua_bot | Furl: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'getfend' (a nil value) |
| 17:28.38 | Furl | lua> getfenv(0) |
| 17:28.39 | lua_bot | Furl: table: 0x6286b0 |
| 17:29.12 | Drundia | lua> getmetatable(_G).__index |
| 17:29.13 | lua_bot | Drundia: nil |
| 17:29.35 | Drundia | lua> getmetatable(_G).__newindex |
| 17:29.35 | lua_bot | Drundia: nil |
| 17:29.37 | durcyn | hey, you know the bot answers privmsg too |
| 17:29.47 | Furl | Hey, this is #wowuidev |
| 17:29.58 | durcyn | exactly, not #botspam |
| 17:30.20 | Drundia | Hey, do you have some problem? Are we interfering with some serious important discussion? |
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| 17:31.16 | Drundia | morning, Shirik (like 10th morning this day for you eh?) |
| 17:31.28 | Shirik | :) |
| 17:31.50 | Furl | ~shirik |
| 17:31.50 | purl | it has been said that shirik is "If I had to sum up my life, I'd have to say, the one thing I hate doing is nothing." --Shirik |
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| 18:06.27 | Sixen | Morning Shirik. Sorry, I had to join the "Morning to Shirik" party. |
| 18:07.10 | Kyahx | what's the online mirror of the current Blizz UI code? |
| 18:07.22 | Snago | ~framexml |
| 18:07.23 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/ |
| 18:07.35 | Kyahx | thanks |
| 18:07.44 | Iriel | There's also wdn |
| 18:07.53 | haste | it's wowcompares.com now |
| 18:07.58 | Iriel | http://wowcompares.com/ |
| 18:09.36 | Sixen | Hey, that's a pretty cool website, =p. |
| 18:09.44 | zenzelezz | purl beat you to it Iriel |
| 18:09.45 | purl | ACTION beats you to it Iriel with a dripping-wet & less-than-fresh fish |
| 18:09.50 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 18:09.58 | Iriel | yes, I didn't know it'd changed names AGAIN |
| 18:10.08 | Sixen | What was it before? =o. |
| 18:10.10 | zenzelezz | now that trigger was interesting |
| 18:10.27 | Iriel | it used to be wdn.wowinterface, then it had an interim name I forget, and now this |
| 18:10.35 | Sixen | Ah |
| 18:10.50 | Iriel | wdnaddons.com, in the middle |
| 18:11.53 | Sixen | Ah. wowCompares makes more sense. They just need a button to go back to the homepge once you're somewhere within the website, ;/. |
| 18:12.34 | haste | firefox 3 fails horribly at XSL here :< |
| 18:12.42 | Sixen | And they're missing some of the really early patches. Not that it matters, just some historic reading, ;) |
| 18:13.15 | haste | not like anything pre-2.0 is needed |
| 18:13.35 | Sixen | Yeah, but anyone that wants the info, why not? :P |
| 18:13.50 | haste | then have fun extracting it, 'cause that will be a real PITA :) |
| 18:14.09 | Sixen | :P |
| 18:14.15 | haste | there's 1.6 or so and up on the wowace svn if you are really interested |
| 18:15.05 | haste | 1.2.1 to 1.11 actually |
| 18:15.25 | haste | 1.1.2* |
| 18:15.38 | Sixen | Mmmm, WoWCompares starts at 1.1.2.4115 |
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| 18:35.41 | Shirik | lol, ok, listening to police radio is awesome (my grandfather has one because he works for the town somehow, not really sure) but anyway |
| 18:35.54 | Sixen | Rofl. |
| 18:36.02 | Shirik | dispatch to some car: "<address>, man says wife stole his glasses and he needs them to drive" |
| 18:36.14 | kd3 | lmao |
| 18:36.42 | Sixen | Roflmao |
| 18:43.19 | Sixen | Hai2u Kd3. |
| 18:43.46 | kd3 | 'lo |
| 18:44.06 | Sixen | How've you been? |
| 18:44.27 | kd3 | recovering from 2 weeks without net access, but otherwise ok |
| 18:44.39 | Sixen | Ah that's right.. I heard about that, ;/. What happened/ |
| 18:45.02 | kd3 | lots |
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| 18:45.50 | Sixen | =p |
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| 18:49.10 | Shirik | Esamynn|Away, ping |
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| 19:11.43 | nevcairiel | Shirik: i needz your help .. how do i return a multi-dimension array in a C func? i failz |
| 19:12.05 | Shirik | heh |
| 19:12.20 | Shirik | you'll need to return a pointer |
| 19:12.26 | Iriel | nevcairiel: is it fixed or dynamic sized? |
| 19:12.32 | Iriel | nevcairiel: i.e. how was it declared? |
| 19:12.32 | Shirik | if it's a 2 dimensional array of ints, int**, ex. |
| 19:12.33 | nevcairiel | fixed size |
| 19:12.43 | nevcairiel | static CGGameField g_startField[4][4]; |
| 19:12.53 | Iriel | You should be able to return CGGameField[4][4] from the function, I think |
| 19:12.57 | Iriel | my C is a bit rusty |
| 19:13.05 | nevcairiel | i tried doing CGGameField ** |
| 19:13.07 | nevcairiel | but that failed |
| 19:13.13 | Shirik | really? |
| 19:13.25 | Shirik | That should work |
| 19:13.32 | nevcairiel | warning C4047: 'return' : 'CGGameField **' differs in levels of indirection from 'CGGameField [4][4]' |
| 19:13.42 | Iriel | Arent fixed sized 2d arrays handled differently than arbitrary ones? |
| 19:13.51 | Shirik | Oh you know what |
| 19:13.54 | Shirik | I think it's CGGameField* |
| 19:14.00 | Iriel | Yes |
| 19:14.07 | Iriel | because it's implemented as a single block of 16 cells |
| 19:14.10 | Shirik | yeah |
| 19:14.14 | nevcairiel | same error though |
| 19:14.26 | Shirik | hm, let me pull up vs real quick |
| 19:14.29 | Fisker- | try making fun of it's mother nevcairiel |
| 19:15.00 | zenzelezz | Fisker-: your mother differs in levels of indirection |
| 19:15.01 | Iriel | nevcairiel: and you couldn't declare the function to return CGGameField[4][4] ? |
| 19:15.10 | nevcairiel | let me try that |
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| 19:15.35 | nevcairiel | error C2059: syntax error : '[' |
| 19:15.36 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 19:16.04 | Shirik | Microsoft Visual Studio is configuring the environment for first use. >.> |
| 19:16.14 | Iriel | Ah well,. it's b een a while, as I said.. rusty 8-) |
| 19:16.29 | nevcairiel | i thought doing ** or * would work |
| 19:16.32 | nevcairiel | but it doesnt <.< |
| 19:16.54 | zenzelezz | couldn't you take a pointer to an existing CGGameField[4][4] as parameter and just copy? |
| 19:17.06 | Drundia | shouldn't function be defined like CGGameField *func[4](args) |
| 19:17.15 | Iriel | nevcairiel: how about GCGameField[][4] ? |
| 19:17.27 | nevcairiel | Iriel: nah it doesnt like [] there |
| 19:18.17 | nevcairiel | with my one dimension array "CGGameField *func()" works fine |
| 19:18.44 | Shirik | you know what, nevcairiel, you have to be careful here |
| 19:19.03 | Drundia | or do typedef CGGameField CGGameField44[4][4] |
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| 19:19.50 | [dRaCo] | CGGameField getCGGameField() { return &g_startField; } |
| 19:20.26 | [dRaCo] | CGGameField * getCGGameField() { return &g_startField; }, sorry |
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| 19:20.50 | nevcairiel | [dRaCo]: 'CGGameField *' differs in levels of indirection from 'CGGameField (*)[4][4]' :P |
| 19:20.52 | nevcairiel | tried that before |
| 19:21.07 | Shirik | hey, that's a cool error message |
| 19:21.09 | Shirik | error C2617: 'foo' : inconsistent return statement |
| 19:21.11 | Shirik | I've never seen that before |
| 19:21.23 | nevcairiel | Shirik: i know i have to be careful, but i'll always be sure to only use valid indexes |
| 19:21.40 | zenzelezz | Shirik: if you want cool errors, browse the documentation - there's all kinds of crazy shit there |
| 19:21.46 | zenzelezz | "more than 16000 errors in file" |
| 19:22.07 | nevcairiel | But i cannot do global variables due to restrictions on that task |
| 19:22.11 | nevcairiel | and i need a multi-dim array |
| 19:22.14 | Shirik | anyway, nevcairiel, there are a few things I'm worried about |
| 19:22.26 | Shirik | but this is why I tend to use pointers :P |
| 19:22.33 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: could you make a struct { CGGameField[4][4]; } and return such a struct? |
| 19:22.35 | [dRaCo] | CGGameField ** getCGGameField() { return &g_startField; }? |
| 19:22.41 | Shirik | you have some of the problems alleviated by making it static |
| 19:23.04 | Drundia | int (*foo())[4] is like good for returning int[4][4] |
| 19:23.22 | Shirik | ooh got it |
| 19:23.26 | Shirik | I knew it was something like that |
| 19:23.30 | Shirik | it requires a C-style cast |
| 19:23.45 | nevcairiel | I can only do ANSI C, i hope thats in :P |
| 19:23.50 | Iriel | declare c as function returning pointer to array 4 of array 4 of int |
| 19:23.51 | Iriel | int (*c())[4][4] |
| 19:24.41 | Shirik | nevcairiel: you already tried CGGameField* right? |
| 19:24.47 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 19:24.50 | Shirik | ok |
| 19:24.51 | Shirik | that was right |
| 19:25.02 | Shirik | your return needs to be "return (CGGameField*)foo;" |
| 19:25.35 | Drundia | since it says there "CGGameField (*)[4][4]" it should be defined as "CGGameField (*func(args))[4][4]" |
| 19:25.38 | Shirik | as Iriel and I already pointed out, this is ok because it's implemented as a one-dimensional array |
| 19:28.04 | Drundia | but i think C has typedef exactly for this kind of complicated stuff |
| 19:28.34 | Shirik | hm, oops |
| 19:28.35 | Shirik | Unhandled exception at 0x008837d4 in Test.exe: 0xC0000005: Access violation reading location 0x00000000. |
| 19:28.37 | Shirik | give me a second >.> |
| 19:30.22 | Shirik | there we go |
| 19:30.29 | Shirik | I was right the first time |
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| 19:30.55 | Shirik | nevcairiel, http://rafb.net/p/sn87hB82.html |
| 19:31.23 | Shirik | wait, wtf |
| 19:31.25 | Shirik | why does that work |
| 19:31.25 | nevcairiel | can i cast it to ** to allow [a][b] indexing? |
| 19:31.29 | Shirik | my printf should crash the program |
| 19:32.54 | nevcairiel | its not really working <.< |
| 19:32.55 | Shirik | I'm working on that one nevcairiel :) |
| 19:33.02 | Shirik | yeah, add a getA() function |
| 19:34.27 | nevcairiel | i'm just adding a freaking parameter to get my the second dim of the array with the parameter providing the first dim |
| 19:35.31 | Drundia | look http://rafb.net/p/tJ4A0H44.html |
| 19:35.39 | Drundia | that works |
| 19:36.09 | Drundia | we really get 2-dimensional array returned by foo() |
| 19:36.58 | Shirik | it's also not really a function :P There has to be a way |
| 19:37.16 | Drundia | hehe |
| 19:37.30 | nevcairiel | i'll go with passing a parameter for now :P |
| 19:37.43 | Shirik | this error message provides a hint |
| 19:37.44 | Shirik | 1>c:\users\mpdelbuono\documents\visual studio 2008\projects\test\test\test.cpp(31) : error C2440: 'reinterpret_cast' : cannot convert from 'CTest *' to 'CTest [4][4]' |
| 19:37.44 | Shirik | 1> There are no conversions to array types, although there are conversions to references or pointers to arrays |
| 19:38.09 | nevcairiel | you tried to reinterpret cast it, and it failed? |
| 19:38.18 | nevcairiel | i thought reinterpret works on everything =P |
| 19:38.36 | Shirik | only if it makes sense :) |
| 19:38.41 | Shirik | makes sense as in it's feasible |
| 19:39.32 | Iriel | Can you convert to CTest[][4] ? |
| 19:39.47 | Drundia | do you like this new function more? http://rafb.net/p/98WGi291.html |
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| 19:44.26 | Shirik | 1>c:\users\mpdelbuono\documents\visual studio 2008\projects\test\test\test.cpp(31) : error C2440: 'reinterpret_cast' : cannot convert from 'CTest *' to 'CTest [][4]' |
| 19:44.27 | Shirik | 1> There are no conversions to array types, although there are conversions to references or pointers to arrays |
| 19:44.30 | Shirik | I see why it's complaining |
| 19:44.56 | bleeter | hmmm, looks like Blizz spent the weekend passing around the ban hammer to spammers, win traders and afk'ers /cheer |
| 19:45.03 | Shirik | I just don't know the right syntax to fix it :( |
| 19:45.07 | Shirik | This is why I like pointers |
| 19:45.15 | Shirik | let the programmer figure out the details |
| 19:45.22 | Drundia | win traders? do they get banned now too? |
| 19:46.00 | Drundia | (CTest(*)[4])? |
| 19:46.38 | Shirik | Drundia, that's still not a function :P |
| 19:46.47 | Drundia | then what is it? |
| 19:47.11 | Shirik | it's an inline assignment of a pointer to a function |
| 19:47.27 | Drundia | you are wrong |
| 19:47.51 | Drundia | pointer to function is (*foo)(args) |
| 19:48.02 | Drundia | not (*foo(args)) |
| 19:48.19 | Drundia | (*foo(args)) is function returning a pointer |
| 19:49.06 | Shirik | er, why would you do that? |
| 19:49.19 | Drundia | if i want to make is a pointer to array |
| 19:49.24 | Drundia | because [] precedes * |
| 19:49.40 | Shirik | ah I missed the [4] at the end |
| 19:49.46 | Drundia | "int (*foo())[4]" reads as foo is a function returning pointer to 4 ints |
| 19:50.36 | Drundia | http://rafb.net/p/Zk9yz023.html |
| 19:50.44 | Drundia | now i convert to it too |
| 19:50.50 | Drundia | return (int(*)[4])a; |
| 19:50.55 | Shirik | yes I got that now |
| 19:51.37 | Shirik | we still have another issue |
| 19:51.42 | Shirik | how do we capture the return value? |
| 19:52.00 | nevcairiel | i didnt get that part working with Drundia's method, so i added my parameter |
| 19:52.16 | Shirik | eh, I got it |
| 19:52.20 | Shirik | static_cast it to an int** |
| 19:52.39 | Shirik | sorry, C cast it |
| 19:53.03 | Shirik | hm, nm |
| 19:53.09 | Shirik | that has the same problem I had with my method |
| 19:53.16 | nevcairiel | I would rather avoid casting, if possible |
| 19:53.39 | Shirik | well, ok |
| 19:53.42 | Shirik | I have a solution |
| 19:53.44 | Shirik | I really don't like it |
| 19:54.03 | zenzelezz | sounds to me like nev has had a solution for a long time now, you've just been too busy to listen |
| 19:54.20 | nevcairiel | its a work around, though, zenzelezz |
| 19:54.29 | Drundia | casting to multidimensional static-sized array is like (type(*)[s1][s2][s3]...[sn]) |
| 19:54.42 | zenzelezz | if it's a workaround that works, it's a solution |
| 19:54.48 | Drundia | with (*) being in place of [s0] |
| 19:55.01 | zenzelezz | I don't see anything wrong with using parameters for such a purpose |
| 19:55.42 | Shirik | here nevcairiel |
| 19:55.43 | Shirik | http://rafb.net/p/3Eg4cT27.html |
| 19:56.05 | Shirik | zenzelezz, I've been listening. nevcairiel doesn't like it, there are issues |
| 19:56.06 | bleeter | Drundia: from reading the customer support forum, it sure seems that way |
| 19:56.35 | zenzelezz | what issues? If it's fixed size like he says |
| 19:56.46 | Shirik | the reason it can't become a pointer to a pointer, nevcairiel, is because the first level of indirection is not a pointer |
| 19:56.57 | Shirik | zenzelezz, you can't store away Drundia's return value |
| 19:57.13 | Shirik | meaning you keep calling it over and over again |
| 19:57.14 | zenzelezz | I've never been talking about yours or Drundia's suggestions |
| 19:57.19 | Shirik | oh, you mean nevcairiel |
| 19:57.22 | Drundia | Shirik, yes you can |
| 19:57.34 | Shirik | because it's a workaround, like nevcairiel said ) |
| 19:57.38 | zenzelezz | sorry if I was uncelar about who I meant |
| 19:57.43 | nevcairiel | Well not sure how costly function calls in C are, but this is in a OpenGL re-draw function, so i would like to keep it optimized, but not with totally crazy hack code :P |
| 19:57.45 | Drundia | into int (*var)[4] |
| 19:58.30 | Drundia | http://rafb.net/p/MPB6u440.html |
| 19:58.51 | Shirik | ok Drundia, you should have said that a while ago :) |
| 19:58.56 | Drundia | should probably initialize right next to declaration |
| 19:58.57 | nevcairiel | so i was more like wondering if i there is a easy way to return a two-dim array ;) |
| 19:58.57 | Shirik | when I first probed you about it |
| 19:59.08 | Drundia | maybe i didn't notice it |
| 19:59.16 | Shirik | Anyway, nevcairiel, this is why you shouldn't be afraid of pointers! |
| 19:59.38 | nevcairiel | I'm not, not really anyway |
| 19:59.47 | Shirik | Unfortunately, because I love pointers so much, I know less about arrays |
| 20:00.05 | nevcairiel | But if i want a static 4x4 storage, i use a array :P |
| 20:00.32 | Shirik | you can do that, but keep in mind that it's actually a 1-dimensional array of 16 slots :) |
| 20:01.00 | nevcairiel | yeah but i can index it with [a][b] |
| 20:01.03 | nevcairiel | thats all i want |
| 20:01.04 | Shirik | anyway, I learned something new today, thanks Drundia |
| 20:01.19 | Shirik | I'll probably never use it |
| 20:01.21 | Shirik | but now I know it |
| 20:01.34 | Drundia | C declarations are nasty ones |
| 20:01.42 | Shirik | C is bleh anyway :P |
| 20:01.51 | Shirik | C++ is fun |
| 20:01.58 | Shirik | C lets you get away with way too much |
| 20:02.04 | Furl | Heh. |
| 20:02.06 | Shirik | including something it warned nevcairiel about :P |
| 20:02.08 | nevcairiel | I cant choose the language they make me write this opengl stuff in |
| 20:02.19 | Fisker- | i just peed my pants Shirik |
| 20:02.21 | Shirik | notice that it compiled, even though it wasn't what you wanted, nevcairiel :) |
| 20:02.38 | nevcairiel | actually, the indirection warnings worked fine |
| 20:02.44 | nevcairiel | i just cannot accept warnings |
| 20:02.50 | Shirik | it returned it, but you wouldn't have been able to access it |
| 20:02.56 | Shirik | at least I wasn't able to |
| 20:02.58 | nevcairiel | sure, the app ran fine |
| 20:03.01 | Shirik | I segfaulted when I did :/ |
| 20:03.12 | mikma | rip |
| 20:03.24 | Furl | My approach to C++ is copying everything 4 times, working with it, then seeing what we can scale back. |
| 20:03.39 | Shirik | :( |
| 20:03.45 | Shirik | Don't get me wrong, I hate the standard C++ library |
| 20:03.49 | Shirik | but I like the improvements to the language |
| 20:03.56 | nevcairiel | Shirik: anyway with your pointer-fu, how would you create a 4x4 storage thats easy return-able and usable? :P |
| 20:04.03 | Shirik | sure |
| 20:04.19 | Shirik | int ** foo = new int*[4]; |
| 20:04.25 | Shirik | foo[0] = new int[4], etc |
| 20:04.44 | nevcairiel | cant i just malloc sizeof(int) * 16 ? :P |
| 20:05.03 | mikma | no, noob |
| 20:05.04 | Shirik | not directly, or you get an int* again :) |
| 20:05.10 | Shirik | back to your original problem |
| 20:05.24 | Shirik | there's a slight difference in what I'm doing |
| 20:05.30 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt mind casting that, if it works |
| 20:05.35 | Shirik | you're making an array of 16 slots. I'm making 4 arrays of 4 slots |
| 20:05.41 | nevcairiel | i just dont want to cast in my get'er |
| 20:05.52 | Shirik | the difference is that my first level of indirection gives you a pointer. |
| 20:06.00 | Drundia | then you can cast it to (int(*)[4]) |
| 20:06.58 | Shirik | really I think I overuse pointers though |
| 20:06.59 | nevcairiel | I even added asserts in my own code, i think i am getting sick |
| 20:07.17 | Shirik | It comes from my experience coding microcontrollers, I think |
| 20:07.23 | Shirik | where I'm used to indirect addressing modes, etc. |
| 20:07.38 | nevcairiel | I use too many pointer-less languages <.< |
| 20:07.53 | nevcairiel | having fun with java when i dont write my opengl shit |
| 20:07.56 | nevcairiel | thats really confusing me |
| 20:08.07 | Shirik | microcontrollers are fun. One of my coworkers came to me confused about why his interrupt code wasn't working |
| 20:08.14 | Shirik | he simply didn't put the code in the right place |
| 20:08.21 | Shirik | that's how much knowledge of the memory map you have to know :) |
| 20:08.29 | zenzelezz | who are "they" who's forcing you to do OpenGL in C? |
| 20:08.38 | nevcairiel | zenzelezz: university :P |
| 20:08.50 | Shirik | I wish my university would do that |
| 20:08.54 | Shirik | we don't have enough courses teaching C |
| 20:08.56 | nevcairiel | Plus i get graded by functionality AND code style |
| 20:09.15 | Shirik | and it's sad because a lot of them really don't know it very well |
| 20:09.20 | Drundia | i actually like int **foo = new int*[4]; foo[0] = new int[16]; for (int i=1; i<4; i++) foo[i] = foo[0]+4 |
| 20:09.32 | Drundia | to get a 4x4 thing |
| 20:09.43 | Shirik | that's another valid solution |
| 20:09.56 | Shirik | only difference is where you're allocating the memory, really |
| 20:10.01 | nevcairiel | I think my parameterized get function is better for now |
| 20:10.05 | zenzelezz | C doesn't have new, does it? |
| 20:10.09 | Shirik | no, that's C++ |
| 20:10.10 | Drundia | even foo[0]+4*i |
| 20:10.12 | nevcairiel | no it doesnt |
| 20:11.03 | nevcairiel | Shirik: i hope you hate on MS for not providing C99 in VS08 or the Feature Pack :P |
| 20:11.25 | zenzelezz | I use Visual C++, not Visual C |
| 20:11.31 | Shirik | eh, they do |
| 20:11.38 | Shirik | you just need to turn it on |
| 20:11.53 | nevcairiel | no they dont |
| 20:12.09 | nevcairiel | the VC9 compiler does not fully support C99 |
| 20:12.47 | Shirik | eh, well since when has microsoft been fully standards compliant |
| 20:12.48 | Shirik | it's close |
| 20:12.56 | Shirik | it's a hell of a lot better than VC6 |
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| 20:13.41 | nevcairiel | they dont even support the new math.h functions <.< |
| 20:14.00 | Shirik | oh |
| 20:14.05 | Shirik | really? |
| 20:14.28 | nevcairiel | they added soem stuff they thought is "useful", like long long |
| 20:14.31 | nevcairiel | but not all |
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| 20:15.00 | Shirik | I haven't had an issue :D |
| 20:15.05 | Shirik | brb, critical battery |
| 20:16.02 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 20:16.03 | purl | pong |
| 20:16.05 | Shirik | ok then |
| 20:16.29 | nevcairiel | there was actually a article in one magazine i read about a comparison of the VC9 compiler and the new Intel compiler |
| 20:16.43 | Shirik | you have to understand |
| 20:16.48 | Shirik | VS is written for microsoft programs |
| 20:17.06 | Shirik | that which isn't implemented there's probably a windows version to do it with |
| 20:17.15 | Shirik | snprintf is a good example |
| 20:17.31 | nevcairiel | "Note: This feature pack does not include C99 compatibility or support for special math functions." - from the VS08 Feature Pack |
| 20:17.46 | nevcairiel | but they add stuff from C++0x |
| 20:18.08 | nevcairiel | crazy MS people |
| 20:18.30 | Shirik | you get used to it :) |
| 20:19.04 | nevcairiel | if you want to write apps that are easily portable, you dont want to include a windows-hacks.h in every project to #define a few functions that MS was too lazy to implement |
| 20:19.52 | nevcairiel | I guess thats why i actually started to like Java again |
| 20:20.36 | nevcairiel | meh must refrain from chatting, more game coding |
| 20:20.38 | Shirik | can't say I've really had an issue |
| 20:20.46 | Shirik | but I guess I'm used to the MS paradigm by now |
| 20:21.04 | nevcairiel | i've been mostly writing linux console or server tools until now |
| 20:21.15 | Shirik | oh well, good luck :) |
| 20:21.26 | Shirik | hopefully I'll be more fruitful in future questions :P |
| 20:21.50 | Shirik | why do I still have -7 dkp... |
| 20:21.54 | nevcairiel | I'm really glad there is GLUT to interface with the windows API for creating widnows and such |
| 20:22.00 | nevcairiel | so i dont have to worry about that |
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| 20:23.17 | Shirik | C++! |
| 20:23.28 | Shirik | C++ is your friend. It protects you from evil. |
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| 20:23.30 | nevcairiel | I'm kinda torn between C++, Java, or maybe even C# |
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| 20:24.07 | Shirik | java has two pretty good things: concurrent programming and simplicity |
| 20:24.15 | Shirik | aside from the obvious OS independence |
| 20:24.27 | Shirik | but you do lose some functionality at the same time |
| 20:24.32 | Shirik | the biggest one being direct access to memory |
| 20:24.41 | nevcairiel | I wonder if i can use a full blown .net thing or if our professor would hurt me if he has to install .net 3.5 for my app =P |
| 20:25.13 | Shirik | I made him install .NET for my java app |
| 20:25.15 | Shirik | he was like "wtf" |
| 20:25.41 | Shirik | And then I was all "no this is hardcore, we have a DLL file that java loads to do its stuff" |
| 20:25.41 | nevcairiel | is .net 3.5 even distributed by Windows Update yet? |
| 20:25.47 | Shirik | I think so |
| 20:25.53 | Shirik | wouldn't know, I've had it for a while :) |
| 20:26.14 | mikma | Shirik: u suxx, and http://kuvaton.com/bshit/pokemon.jpg |
| 20:26.17 | nevcairiel | I wonder if i can compile a app against .net 2.0 with VS 08 |
| 20:26.42 | nevcairiel | knowing MS, probably not |
| 20:27.29 | Shirik | <3 mikma |
| 20:28.25 | nevcairiel | mmm animated dice in opengl .. /me starts hacking some animation logic |
| 20:28.44 | Shirik | ah crap I was supposed to read the bloodboil fight before tonight |
| 20:28.53 | zenzelezz | anyone here used HDMI (computer -> TV)? |
| 20:29.10 | nevcairiel | Shirik: want a quick overview? :P |
| 20:29.18 | Shirik | pew pew, his hp goes to 0 before ours? |
| 20:29.24 | nevcairiel | well yeah |
| 20:29.32 | zenzelezz | Shirik: keep the tanks alive, keep the Fel Raged person alive (spam heal constantly), stay alive |
| 20:29.55 | nevcairiel | and depending on your strat, move to the soak position if assigned |
| 20:30.03 | Shirik | .... |
| 20:30.08 | Shirik | ok, reading the notes on the guild page |
| 20:30.09 | Kaso | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeK2g4Glglk |
| 20:30.12 | Kaso | This makes me laugh |
| 20:30.16 | [dRaCo] | and, if you're new to pve, don't stand in the fire! :P |
| 20:30.18 | Shirik | not what I want to see at the top: |
| 20:30.22 | Shirik | The 3 key points of this fight: |
| 20:30.22 | Shirik | - Healer coordination + keeping Fel Raged person alive (there will be a LOT of damage going around, fun!) |
| 20:30.25 | Shirik | :( |
| 20:30.33 | Shirik | why does it have to be me gets the hard job |
| 20:30.45 | nevcairiel | full BT is a healing instance, imho |
| 20:30.50 | zenzelezz | like I said, you have to keep the fel raged person alive, AND the tanks who will be taking big DoTs |
| 20:31.26 | nevcairiel | ah finally a 720p of BSG |
| 20:31.30 | Shirik | Acidic Wound: Reduces armor by 500, ticks for 300 every 3 seconds for each stack. Stacks up to 60 times. |
| 20:31.33 | Shirik | 60 times, is that really necessary? |
| 20:31.38 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 20:31.46 | nevcairiel | it probably wont get that high |
| 20:31.53 | nevcairiel | tank switch should occur aroudn 10 |
| 20:31.57 | zenzelezz | let's just say that at ~15 it ticks for 2000 |
| 20:32.09 | zenzelezz | which is why you HAVE to keep all three tanks up so they can rotate |
| 20:32.40 | Tenchworks | `ping |
| 20:32.45 | zenzelezz | and if you fail to keep the Fel Raged person alive, your tank will get two-shotted |
| 20:33.10 | nevcairiel | shieldwall or death! |
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| 20:33.22 | nevcairiel | i guess we managed with last-stand too |
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| 20:33.43 | zenzelezz | yeah, it's possible, but your healers are usually not prepared |
| 20:34.51 | zenzelezz | I had a tank in my guild who was an avoidance freak; yet he'd always complain about having no rage |
| 20:35.14 | nevcairiel | that will always go together =P |
| 20:35.32 | zenzelezz | exactly |
| 20:35.37 | zenzelezz | he didn't seem to comprehend that |
| 20:36.24 | Fisker- | we pwned our maintank |
| 20:36.31 | Fisker- | he told tanks to stand infront of bloodboil |
| 20:36.42 | Fisker- | i told him that the cleave he does reapplies the dot |
| 20:36.45 | Fisker- | and he said it didn't |
| 20:36.58 | Fisker- | so when the tanks kept getting acidic wound they went out |
| 20:37.02 | Fisker- | and then he got mad :D |
| 20:37.05 | Fisker- | and then he owned himself |
| 20:37.08 | Fisker- | and then i lol'd |
| 20:37.23 | zenzelezz | hehe |
| 20:37.55 | Fisker- | sleep tiem |
| 20:42.51 | Industrial | taaanaaa naaanaa taaananana FIGHT taaanaaa naanaaa nanaanaaanaaa |
| 20:43.32 | cladhaire | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=7017#comments read the last four comments |
| 20:43.32 | Shirik | wtf |
| 20:43.35 | cladhaire | what the FUCK is wrong with people/. |
| 20:43.37 | Shirik | tanana? |
| 20:44.14 | Industrial | Shirik: imagine wicked metal theme music yeah brothers of metal they are going to die etcetc |
| 20:44.19 | Industrial | you dont know manowar? |
| 20:45.19 | Industrial | cladhaire: does LH have to do with questhelper at all? |
| 20:45.38 | cladhaire | QH calls SelectQuestLogEntry on every quest log entry OnUpdate |
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| 20:45.53 | cladhaire | LH uses SelectQuestLogEntry to change what quest it displays |
| 20:45.58 | cladhaire | so it changes to another page. |
| 20:46.10 | cladhaire | i.e. you're on page 3 |
| 20:46.14 | cladhaire | it 'll keep flipping back to page 1 |
| 20:46.44 | Industrial | ah k |
| 20:46.45 | Shirik | cladhaire |
| 20:46.53 | Shirik | obviously you are supposed to fix everyone else's mistakes |
| 20:47.16 | nevcairiel | ignorant people that claim to be the best developers in the world because they assume everyone stinks are fun :P |
| 20:47.47 | nevcairiel | cladhaire: QH really scans the questlog every OnUpdate? o.O |
| 20:48.04 | cladhaire | it certainly appears so based on the code |
| 20:48.18 | cladhaire | ScanQuestLog() |
| 20:48.21 | cladhaire | gets called int he ONUpdate handler |
| 20:48.24 | cladhaire | i didn't see if it gets hidden at all |
| 20:48.28 | cladhaire | but it gets done |
| 20:48.51 | Kemayo | Ouch |
| 20:48.54 | nevcairiel | maybe i could pester the QH author to get into here if that helps ;) |
| 20:49.25 | Shirik | there's a little reply for you cladhaire, in case he does happen to come back |
| 20:49.30 | cladhaire | it should be reasonably easy to fix |
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| 20:51.59 | [Liquidor] | Hi everyone :-) |
| 20:53.06 | Shirik | hi |
| 20:54.23 | Tenchworks | <-slow reader, just read the coments.... man I didn't think people could get that bad |
| 20:55.25 | cladhaire | I just don't understand =() |
| 20:55.49 | nevcairiel | Dont try to understand those people |
| 20:55.55 | cladhaire | I have to |
| 20:55.59 | cladhaire | its someone being wrong on the internet |
| 20:56.21 | Shirik | oh noes |
| 20:56.35 | zenzelezz | they're not wrong, they have just implemented correctness differently |
| 20:56.55 | cladhaire | no, that guy is wrong :P |
| 20:57.01 | cladhaire | i wasn't referring to the QH author |
| 20:58.24 | Shirik | <3 cladhaire |
| 20:58.31 | Tenchworks | people tend to read what they want to hear, seems to me that he wants to start trouble |
| 20:58.53 | cladhaire | indeed |
| 21:00.02 | mdavis93 | Good afternoon folks, just bought that book linked in the room's greeting. I'm an avid C# coder and just started in the LUA/WoW Arena.. any good placed to go while I wait for the book to be delivered on the 13th? |
| 21:00.35 | Kyahx | mdavis93: everyone seems to write a Clean minimap / chat frame mod at first :P |
| 21:00.40 | cladhaire | mdavis93: you can go to http://wowprogramming.com and join the #wowprogramming irc channel |
| 21:00.43 | cladhaire | if you're so inclined |
| 21:00.56 | mdavis93 | Thanks for the link, I'll go there now |
| 21:00.57 | cladhaire | for general discussion :P |
| 21:01.27 | Tenchworks | oh hehe I just picked up that book |
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| 21:03.48 | mdavis93 | I'm curious.. is it possible to convert a guildie obtained by the GetGuildMembers() function into a unit to gather other data on that unit.. |
| 21:03.57 | mdavis93 | or are you stuck with the variables that function returns |
| 21:04.16 | Shirik | really you would just iterate over the raid to find him |
| 21:04.18 | mdavis93 | i.e. ConverToUnit('name') [I know.. that's not an actual code] |
| 21:04.36 | _Sami | muru down woot |
| 21:04.37 | Shirik | it's not very slow to search through 40 people |
| 21:04.41 | Shirik | grats _Sami |
| 21:05.03 | _Sami | that fight sucks |
| 21:06.38 | Drundia | raid members name are valid unit identifiers |
| 21:06.48 | Drundia | raid members' names are valid unit identifiers |
| 21:07.06 | Drundia | (who needs purl's s/search/replace/) |
| 21:08.52 | cladhaire | Drundia: not for all functions, there are still some minor exceptions, but as a rule you're correct |
| 21:10.06 | mdavis93 | My next question is this.. is there a developed IDE made for 'WoW LUA' designing? What do you guys prefer to use |
| 21:11.21 | Shirik | ah I forgot about that actually |
| 21:11.26 | Shirik | I'm still on old-school practices |
| 21:12.00 | Shirik | mdavis93: I use SciTE, but you'll probably get as many answers as there are developers |
| 21:13.02 | mdavis93 | Downloaded Blua a few weeks ago, but have since found out that it's been on ice for a few years |
| 21:13.30 | nevcairiel | I just use notepad++ .. syntax highlighting is all i need *shrug |
| 21:13.47 | Shirik | scite doesn't offer much more than syntax highlighting either :D |
| 21:14.22 | mdavis93 | Just wish the in-game error's were a bit more helpful.. such as what line did the error occur at |
| 21:14.32 | Shirik | that's shown |
| 21:14.36 | mdavis93 | ..... |
| 21:14.40 | Shirik | lua> aofwj |
| 21:14.40 | lua_bot | Shirik: nil |
| 21:14.42 | Shirik | .. |
| 21:14.46 | Shirik | lua> error("Foo" |
| 21:14.47 | lua_bot | Shirik: luabot:1: ')' expected near '<eof>' |
| 21:14.54 | Shirik | that says the error occurred at line 1 |
| 21:15.00 | mdavis93 | Ahh |
| 21:15.26 | Shirik | lua> foo() |
| 21:15.27 | lua_bot | Shirik: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'foo' (a nil value) |
| 21:15.38 | Shirik | whether the error is in compile or run, you should get that info |
| 21:15.53 | cladhaire | !api getiteminfo |
| 21:15.53 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'getiteminfo': http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetTradeTargetItemInfo, http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetItemInfo |
| 21:15.58 | mdavis93 | so the number right after the name would be the error line |
| 21:16.02 | Shirik | with a more detailed error handler, you should also get some extra information |
| 21:16.11 | Shirik | such as a traceback |
| 21:17.50 | mdavis93 | That wowprogramming site has a link for AddOn Studio.. has anyone used it? |
| 21:18.20 | cladhaire | we did when we decided to put the chapter in |
| 21:18.33 | cladhaire | it can be good for some things like designing a GUI |
| 21:18.45 | cladhaire | and the text editor is pretty nice if you like the visual studio type of editor |
| 21:19.25 | mdavis93 | is it up to date, or is it a dustball? |
| 21:19.53 | cladhaire | its up to date |
| 21:21.15 | Shirik | I should try it tbh |
| 21:22.59 | nevcairiel | i tried it once, wasnt really breath-taking |
| 21:23.10 | Shirik | is it a VS2008 plugin? |
| 21:23.19 | nevcairiel | i think originally VS05 |
| 21:23.30 | Shirik | bleh, I don't want to download 50MB |
| 21:23.44 | Tenchworks | it's not a plugin runs on it's own |
| 21:24.13 | Shirik | too much to download |
| 21:24.39 | Tenchworks | and if i remember right it needs .net installed to run, but don't quote me there |
| 21:24.51 | Shirik | I have .NET 3.5 so not a big deal there |
| 21:25.43 | cladhaire | yeah its just nice if you like visual studio |
| 21:25.45 | cladhaire | since its familiar |
| 21:27.57 | Tenchworks | speaking of .net 3.5, is that availabe on the MS Update page yet? |
| 21:28.24 | nevcairiel | I wouldnt know, i installed it with VS08 |
| 21:28.47 | Shirik | could always just install VS08 to get it :) |
| 21:28.55 | Tenchworks | well about find out, been neglecting updates on this machine |
| 21:29.07 | Tenchworks | hehe I don't have VS yet |
| 21:29.16 | Tenchworks | always been using notepad |
| 21:29.37 | nevcairiel | intelllisense for developing is really useful ;) |
| 21:29.38 | Shirik | http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=333325fd-ae52-4e35-b531-508d977d32a6&DisplayLang=en |
| 21:29.41 | Shirik | .NET 3.5 |
| 21:30.24 | Tenchworks | well that save me trouble of waiting for the other windows updates to install thanks Shirik |
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| 21:39.28 | Tenchworks | o.O windows SP3 is out now on the update page |
| 21:42.08 | Shirik | Cairenn :( |
| 21:42.14 | Shirik | I don't like the north |
| 21:42.20 | Shirik | it's going to be 48 high tomorrow.... |
| 21:42.26 | Shirik | (Farenheit) |
| 21:42.59 | Cairenn | Shirik: cry me a river |
| 21:43.16 | Shirik | :( |
| 21:43.35 | Shirik | <3 |
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| 22:47.42 | bleeter | someone needs to tell zoot that the noob blue on csf is answering to the name 'sprocket' |
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| 22:51.47 | Shot | Oh how I hate Priestess Bringmoreccnexttime |
| 22:52.07 | Polarina | bleeter: Noob blue? csf? |
| 22:52.45 | cladhaire | customer service forum |
| 22:52.52 | cladhaire | imo |
| 22:53.01 | nust | imo your right |
| 22:53.12 | Drundia | and what's so special about sprocket? |
| 22:53.12 | Shirik | imo there are a lot of new names here lately |
| 22:53.21 | cladhaire | imo indeed |
| 22:53.38 | Drundia | imo can i get more details? |
| 22:53.42 | Polarina | bleeter: widgertick has a strong connection with zoot. You might want to ask him to deliver the message. |
| 22:54.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Polarina: neither are here ;) |
| 22:54.15 | Polarina | Aww... |
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| 23:00.35 | Lopeppeppy | Another Sprocket! *cheers* |
| 23:02.04 | zenzelezz | the addon? |
| 23:03.01 | Lopeppeppy | No. The CSF rep. I'm a Sprocket too. |
| 23:03.24 | zenzelezz | :-/ |
| 23:03.27 | zenzelezz | you got my hopes up |
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| 23:05.02 | Gngsk | zenzelezz, ever heard of Poppins? |
| 23:05.18 | zenzelezz | only some woman with an umbrella |
| 23:06.44 | dylanm | The addon? |
| 23:06.46 | dylanm | Looked interesting. |
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| 23:14.33 | Gngsk | dylanm, Yah it seems like a better Geist, which reminded me of Sprocket. |
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| 23:33.42 | Kaso | ^^ ^_- |
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| 23:36.59 | zenzelezz | what was it this time? |
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| 23:53.11 | Shirik | lol, so we're killing doomwalker |
| 23:53.17 | Shirik | [1. General] Can I get an invite on doomwalker? |
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| 23:56.49 | batrick | o ya |
| 23:57.53 | batrick | lol |
