| 00:14.32 | *** join/#wowuidev Shirik (i=nospam@71.sub-75-197-122.myvzw.com) |
| 00:14.38 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 00:19.15 | *** join/#wowuidev Superdumb (n=dumda@c-98-198-114-20.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 00:19.27 | Superdumb | is this the Glider chat? |
| 00:19.40 | Shirik | wowglider? |
| 00:20.40 | Superdumb | mmoglider |
| 00:20.44 | Kaso | :facepalm: |
| 00:20.53 | ckknight | no, Superdumb |
| 00:21.08 | Shirik | you can talk about it if you want |
| 00:21.18 | Shirik | I can also +b you if I want |
| 00:21.20 | Shirik | funny how that works out |
| 00:21.24 | NightHawkTheSane | tjere |
| 00:21.36 | NightHawkTheSane | there's an ironic appropriateness to that nick. |
| 00:21.48 | ckknight | agreed |
| 00:22.27 | Shirik | ~dnslookup google.com |
| 00:23.17 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/learn_chinese.jpg |
| 00:23.20 | Shirik | I found this conversation amusing |
| 00:23.25 | Shirik | (20:21:37) (Superdumb) lol are you a user? |
| 00:23.25 | Shirik | (20:21:57) (Shirik) no, I prefer to actually leave some enjoyment in my games |
| 00:23.25 | Shirik | (20:22:50) (Superdumb) oh ok |
| 00:24.10 | mikma | i thought you were user of heavt drugs |
| 00:24.45 | Shirik | :( |
| 00:24.56 | foxlit | It's clearly recreational drugs, he spends way too much time here to be hardcore! |
| 00:24.56 | mikma | and i can tpyo |
| 00:25.08 | mikma | foxlit: multitasking |
| 00:25.38 | mikma | i would be surprised if he wouldn't use drugs when watching us chat |
| 00:26.13 | Drundia | where in blizzard ui can i find ready to use class icons textures? |
| 00:26.29 | mikma | Drundia: nowhere actually, they are all settexcoord :P |
| 00:26.29 | foxlit | in GLUES somewhere |
| 00:26.41 | Drundia | is Interface\Glues\CharacterCreate\UI-CharacterCreate-Classes containing them all my best bet? |
| 00:26.59 | mikma | aye. blizz uses settexcoord to get the correct classes from that |
| 00:26.59 | Superdumb | mmoglider.com GLIDE OR DIE!!!!! |
| 00:27.09 | mikma | superbot |
| 00:27.10 | foxlit | s/or/and/ |
| 00:27.10 | Kaso | ban or die? |
| 00:27.11 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-o+b Superdumb *!*n=dumda@c-98-198-114-20.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] by Shirik |
| 00:27.11 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Superdumb!i=nospam@conspiracy/developer/Shirik] by Shirik (Have a nice day) |
| 00:27.25 | Shirik | wtf did I -o him for? |
| 00:27.27 | Shirik | stupid script |
| 00:27.34 | Drundia | haha |
| 00:27.40 | mikma | Shirik: it's quite smart script actually |
| 00:27.48 | Shirik | yeah it protects me from.... me |
| 00:27.56 | Shirik | like that time I owned zoot :D |
| 00:28.03 | mikma | Shirik: usually if you just +b, the other client (which has ops) can have script that can unban him |
| 00:28.14 | Shirik | I have a similar script :) |
| 00:28.23 | mikma | so it's just +b -> -b -> kick |
| 00:28.30 | Shirik | If someone +b's me, I -o-b,+o,kick |
| 00:28.38 | mikma | then he can come back.. but if you do -o -> +b -> kick :D |
| 00:28.52 | Shirik | let me see if I can trigger it |
| 00:29.06 | mikma | ban yourself ^^ |
| 00:29.08 | foxlit | Then someone talks to ChanServ |
| 00:29.19 | foxlit | And you're both out of here :) |
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| 00:29.25 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shirik|Ecole] by ChanServ |
| 00:29.29 | mikma | there still are irc-servers that don't have chanserv :P |
| 00:29.40 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+b Shirik!*@*] by Shirik|Ecole |
| 00:29.41 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-ob Shirik|Ecole Shirik!*@*] by Shirik |
| 00:29.41 | *** kick/#WoWUIDev [Shirik|Ecole!i=nospam@conspiracy/developer/Shirik] by Shirik (Don't even think about it!) |
| 00:29.46 | mikma | so getting the best protection is.. good |
| 00:29.50 | Drundia | :D |
| 00:30.10 | foxlit | Moral of the story: start with -o |
| 00:30.25 | Shirik | yeah, I was just saying stupid because he wasn't already +o |
| 00:30.28 | mikma | yeah, or have a script that does it |
| 00:30.32 | Shirik | it could detect that with an extra flag |
| 00:30.32 | foxlit | In fact, start with a kick? |
| 00:30.42 | mikma | Shirik: the script can't know if he has +o, that's why it first deops him |
| 00:30.51 | Shirik | sure it can |
| 00:30.57 | Shirik | at least mirc can |
| 00:31.07 | mikma | foxlit: no that wont do. the autojoin scripts are too damn fast and they can join back before the ban |
| 00:31.16 | Shirik | aye, then you get into latency issues |
| 00:31.17 | Drundia | then script should be able to as well... in theory |
| 00:31.23 | Shirik | whomever has shorter latency wins |
| 00:31.24 | foxlit | mikma: so? :) |
| 00:31.32 | Drundia | erhm |
| 00:31.33 | foxlit | You can send both simultaniously |
| 00:31.34 | MentalPower | Shirik: ghost? |
| 00:31.38 | Shirik | ? |
| 00:31.39 | mikma | foxlit: so then you would have to kick him again ^^ |
| 00:31.42 | Drundia | if you do kick and ban nearly simultaneously |
| 00:31.43 | foxlit | You're one round-trip shorter |
| 00:31.47 | MentalPower | |Ecole |
| 00:31.54 | Shirik | that's my school nick |
| 00:31.56 | Drundia | the victim can get back only after ping amount of time |
| 00:31.58 | Drundia | and that's too late |
| 00:31.59 | foxlit | And, once he rejoins, there's no o |
| 00:32.00 | mikma | Drundia: trust me, the scripts are that fast |
| 00:32.16 | Shirik | it was just a second account I was using to demonstrate my autoprotect script |
| 00:32.17 | Drundia | they don't predict future! |
| 00:32.31 | mikma | he might get em if he's an op in a bot or so (this is for the other servers obviously) |
| 00:32.43 | MentalPower | oh, right nm |
| 00:32.45 | Shirik | anyway, now to fix this ban |
| 00:33.00 | mikma | Shirik: fix what and why? |
| 00:33.04 | Shirik | eh actually it's ok |
| 00:33.11 | Shirik | I thought it had his nick in it, I didn't read it right |
| 00:33.26 | mikma | there we go ;) |
| 00:33.31 | Shirik | how did sag get banned again... |
| 00:33.38 | Drundia | it has "n=dumda" |
| 00:33.42 | mikma | banned? WHEEEEE! |
| 00:33.44 | Shirik | ah that's right |
| 00:33.46 | Drundia | can't it be workarounded? |
| 00:33.46 | Shirik | I knew there was something in it |
| 00:33.52 | Drundia | or what was the correct word.... |
| 00:34.10 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-b+b *!*n=dumda@c-98-198-114-20.hsd1.tx.comcast.net *!*@c-98-198-114-20.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] by Shirik |
| 00:34.17 | Shirik | anyway |
| 00:34.35 | mikma | Shirik: /mode * +b *!*@*.comcast.net ;DDDD |
| 00:34.41 | Shirik | ha |
| 00:35.07 | mikma | it's like: *!*@* and masskick go go |
| 00:35.23 | Shirik | I did that once actually |
| 00:35.32 | Shirik | I hit a strange combination of buttons I'm not quite sure what I hit |
| 00:35.35 | mikma | good bots can prevent that |
| 00:35.37 | Shirik | but I selected everyone and kicked |
| 00:35.45 | Shirik | fortunately when I kicked myself, it stopped P |
| 00:35.52 | Shirik | so I only ended up kicking like 3 people |
| 00:36.10 | mikma | quite cool |
| 00:36.31 | Shirik | lua_bot got kicked, though |
| 00:36.42 | mikma | serves him right |
| 00:37.45 | Shirik | haha mikma |
| 00:37.55 | Shirik | that learn chinese thing is awesome |
| 00:38.01 | mikma | :D |
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| 00:42.01 | Shirik | sad thing is, my boss sounds exactly like that |
| 00:42.24 | mikma | Fa Kin Su Pah |
| 00:42.29 | Shirik | ok not that >< |
| 00:42.38 | mikma | Dum Fuk |
| 00:42.46 | Drundia | hehe |
| 00:42.53 | zenzelezz | it's sofa king great |
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| 00:43.35 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v MentalPower] by ChanServ |
| 00:43.36 | Shirik | wow, so out of desire for amusement, I went to glider's site |
| 00:43.40 | Shirik | and they have a FAQ page |
| 00:43.50 | Shirik | "Is using Glider call for suspension/ban" |
| 00:43.53 | Shirik | Yes, Glider is against the Terms of Service as provided by Blizzard for World of Warcraft. If you are detected using Glider, your account will be suspended for 72 hours and very likely banned completely. While Glider does not violate any of the terms listed under Blizzard's "Client/Server Manipulation Policy", it is still a third-party program and their Terms of Service are very open in what falls under that definition, meaning they can find |
| 00:43.54 | Shirik | Glider provides a number of features to help lower the risk of detection - for more information, see the next topic. |
| 00:43.57 | Shirik | Bottom line: use at your own risk. |
| 00:44.15 | Lopeppeppy | FAQ's? "This is a hack and a cheat, get over it." |
| 00:44.18 | Shirik | I would have at least thought they'd find a way to manipulate people into thinking it's ok |
| 00:44.43 | DARKGuy | they throw dirt at themselves :P |
| 00:45.10 | mikma | gliderbots at the opposite faction in AV rules |
| 00:45.18 | mikma | they just run circles |
| 00:45.24 | DARKGuy | XD |
| 00:45.29 | DARKGuy | must be fun to watch |
| 00:45.46 | mikma | usually i don't, i'll just get the hk from them and find them again :D |
| 00:46.12 | Shirik | wait, didn't glider get sued? |
| 00:46.13 | mikma | (previously they were running circles in front of the old horde entrance) |
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| 00:51.54 | Drundia | f(t[1],t[2],t[3],t[4]) or f(unpack(t))? |
| 00:54.08 | tlund | funbags() |
| 00:54.21 | MentalPower | unpack() |
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| 00:58.06 | dfaweax | hello |
| 00:58.51 | MentalPower | hi |
| 01:00.23 | dfaweax | how's it going |
| 01:01.45 | Shirik | not bad, yourself? |
| 01:02.08 | dfaweax | pretty good |
| 01:02.30 | dfaweax | how's WoW..haven't played in a while |
| 01:02.54 | Lopeppeppy | It rumbles on, same as it ever was. |
| 01:03.02 | Shirik | same as it ever was? |
| 01:03.15 | dfaweax | there's gotta be new stuff |
| 01:03.24 | DARKGuy | new noobs :P? |
| 01:03.32 | Shirik | there's sunwell |
| 01:03.36 | Shirik | not that many go there |
| 01:03.43 | Shirik | there's lots of free gold |
| 01:03.55 | Shirik | and apparently the gold spammers are giving out samples now |
| 01:04.04 | dfaweax | ooo |
| 01:04.18 | dfaweax | always wanted an epic flying mount |
| 01:08.12 | Drundia | they give out some free now? |
| 01:08.23 | Drundia | not here not yet :( |
| 01:08.38 | Drundia | but one site offers the most expensive gold.... |
| 01:10.44 | Shirik | I dunno if they really give out some free |
| 01:10.50 | Shirik | my guild was trying to convince me of this yesterday |
| 01:11.16 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah. I'll sell you a bridge too, dear. |
| 01:12.07 | Shirik | I don't need a bridge though |
| 01:13.09 | Lopeppeppy | You don't need gold from gold farmers to get yourself banned with, either. |
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| 01:15.19 | Shirik | I wouldn't take it |
| 01:15.27 | Shirik | I don't take gold from my guildies |
| 01:15.36 | Shirik | what makes you think I'd take it from a gold spammer :P |
| 01:16.43 | zenzelezz | I had the trade window open for 30 minutes waiting for the other guy to accept it when I wanted to give him 10k |
| 01:16.52 | zenzelezz | people always insist on being troublesome |
| 01:17.01 | dfaweax | aw |
| 01:18.00 | Shirik | heh |
| 01:18.04 | Shirik | one guy constantly tried to give me money |
| 01:18.12 | Shirik | one day he mailed me 4k, so I held onto it for a while |
| 01:18.17 | Shirik | just to see what he'd say |
| 01:18.29 | Shirik | then he complained about how he was saving up for his epic mount and wanted it back |
| 01:18.54 | dfaweax | can anyone help me out w/ a scroll of ressurection? |
| 01:19.02 | zenzelezz | Mail from [Shirik]: sux2bu |
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| 01:19.09 | Shirik | nah I gave it back of course |
| 01:19.12 | Shirik | scroll of ressurection? |
| 01:19.21 | dfaweax | that 10 day trial thing |
| 01:19.29 | Shirik | what do you need help with? |
| 01:19.36 | dfaweax | i need 1 |
| 01:19.49 | dfaweax | well i dont need it |
| 01:19.53 | zenzelezz | none of my chars ever had epic flying mount... didn't even get my main char an epic riding mount until after BC |
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| 01:20.38 | Cide | fuck that shit |
| 01:20.50 | Cide | one of my isp's dns servers have been down for like 5 hrs |
| 01:21.15 | Cide | apparently that means the whole internet connection is down.. or at least I couldn't find any other issues |
| 01:21.24 | Lopeppeppy | That sucks. |
| 01:21.44 | Cide | yep, works now though! |
| 01:21.55 | Cide | hi honey |
| 01:22.01 | Cide | did you miss me? :) |
| 01:22.30 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, every day. And stuff. |
| 01:22.37 | Shirik | of course :) |
| 01:22.56 | Cide | that warms my heart |
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| 02:46.41 | Guest407 | is there a quicker way to surface for breath when swimming other than space bar? |
| 02:47.21 | Lopeppeppy | That one really does the trick for me. Unless I'm driving with my mouse, but space bar takes you straight up. |
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| 02:48.26 | Guest910 | any one here? |
| 02:49.03 | dylanm | What an odd question. |
| 02:49.05 | Guest910 | is there a quicker way to surface when swimming other than space bar |
| 02:49.16 | MentalPower | you already asked that |
| 02:49.23 | Guest910 | sorry - which one was odd? |
| 02:49.24 | Lopeppeppy | [22:47] Lopeppeppy: That one really does the trick for me. Unless I'm driving with my mouse, but space bar takes you straight up. |
| 02:49.24 | dylanm | Well, he left before it was answered. |
| 02:49.38 | dylanm | "Driving with the mouse" is pro though. |
| 02:50.17 | dylanm | (Hold down the left and right mousebuttons.) |
| 02:50.18 | Guest910 | sorry - can you explain driving with the mouse? |
| 02:50.29 | Guest910 | im on a mac :( |
| 02:50.47 | dylanm | Ah, I am too :) |
| 02:50.58 | dylanm | Go to key bindings and look for "move and steer." |
| 02:51.20 | Guest910 | ok |
| 02:51.57 | Guest910 | got it ! thank you so much :) |
| 02:52.51 | dylanm | No problem. |
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| 03:09.07 | Keias | A wild Lopeppeppy appears! |
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| 03:25.35 | JoshBorke | Keias: is there any other kind? |
| 03:25.58 | Keias | The sock wearing ones are very tame. |
| 03:26.30 | Lopeppeppy | There are no sock wearing Peppys, therefore there is no other kind but the wild. *wicked grin* |
| 03:29.47 | Keias | After we capture a Peppy, can we put socks on them then? |
| 03:32.43 | Lopeppeppy | Noooo! |
| 03:32.52 | Lopeppeppy | I wear slippers sometimes? |
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| 03:34.20 | Keias | I suppose Slippers are ok |
| 03:34.30 | Keias | Wait, they're not the ones with like big animals on them are they? |
| 03:34.37 | Lopeppeppy | Um... no. |
| 03:34.43 | Keias | ok good |
| 03:34.45 | Lopeppeppy | I have taste. |
| 03:34.48 | Keias | Those are horrid. |
| 03:34.54 | Keias | IF YOU HAD TASTE YOU'D WEAR SOCKS |
| 03:36.46 | Lopeppeppy | Keias. *slow smile* |
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| 03:50.02 | Keias | Don't you give me those evil looks. I know better! |
| 03:50.34 | Lopeppeppy | I'm sure you do. :) |
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| 04:39.44 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ capturing the wild Lopeppeppy and putting socks on her |
| 04:40.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Sounds pretty mean to me |
| 04:42.46 | Lopeppeppy | Seriously. |
| 04:43.00 | ScytheBlade1 | On the flip side |
| 04:43.11 | ScytheBlade1 | When that's all you really have to worry about, sounds like a pretty good life to me :) |
| 04:43.44 | Lopeppeppy | If life were so simple, I'd sell myself in one of those magazines as a mail order bride. But it aint. |
| 04:44.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha, true that |
| 04:59.18 | Corrodias | wait, what? |
| 04:59.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Corrodias: |
| 04:59.32 | ScytheBlade1 | 23:29 < Keias> After we capture a Peppy, can we put socks on them then? |
| 05:00.14 | Lopeppeppy | Nooooo. |
| 05:00.17 | Lopeppeppy | No no no. |
| 05:00.42 | ScytheBlade1 | (Clearly she is against the idea, as you can plainly see) |
| 05:05.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh @ general forums topic |
| 05:05.10 | ScytheBlade1 | "looking for high poop server" |
| 05:09.44 | Lopeppeppy | Nice. |
| 05:09.49 | Lopeppeppy | They all have poop in the outlands. |
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| 05:14.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I really wonder (read: hope) that they have a similar quest in Wrath. |
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| 05:24.57 | ScytheBlade1 | I also need to figure out a way to get the buttons on my phone to do stuff on my computer via bluetooth. Namely, the playpause/next/forward buttons. |
| 05:25.30 | Tem | virtual joystick maybe? |
| 05:25.54 | ScytheBlade1 | The bigger problem is getting the phone to do anything, especially bluetooth related, when I hit the button ;) |
| 05:26.22 | kergoth | Cairenn: mind moving kEnergy (id 6422) from Combat Mods to Outdated Mods? |
| 05:27.09 | Cairenn | done |
| 05:27.31 | kergoth | thanks :) |
| 05:27.37 | Cairenn | you're welcome :) |
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| 05:48.24 | Keias | Anyone happen to know if theres any website that shows talents at Vanilla WoW's release? |
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| 06:08.54 | NightHawkTheSane | there is, in fact. |
| 06:08.58 | NightHawkTheSane | search me if i know what it is, though |
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| 07:20.41 | cncfanatics | hello ppl |
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| 08:59.18 | MentalPower | gnight all |
| 08:59.47 | Cairenn | night MentalPower|ZzZz, sweet dreams |
| 08:59.54 | MentalPower|ZzZz | night Cairenn |
| 09:01.48 | cncfanatics | damn US ppl |
| 09:01.57 | cncfanatics | you go to bed way too early :p |
| 09:03.36 | Cairenn | a) not US :p |
| 09:03.36 | Cairenn | b) early? late? depends on how you look at it - is 5am here :p |
| 09:05.28 | cncfanatics | 11am here |
| 09:08.16 | widgertick | What're you up to on this wonderful Saturday morning? |
| 09:10.04 | cncfanatics | is mother's day today or tomorrow ? :o |
| 09:10.17 | widgertick | Tomorrow. |
| 09:10.56 | widgertick | It's always on a Sunday |
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| 09:24.04 | Cairenn | night guys |
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| 10:08.28 | Zyuu | There's a neat little addon called "Roguespam" that kills some of the messages that get spammed during combat, ie, "Not enough rage," "Another action is in progress," and so on. Is there a way to just disable ALL of these things? |
| 10:20.15 | haste | UIErrorsFrame:UnregisterAllEvents() |
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| 10:23.15 | Zyuu | :) thanks, I'm told ErrorMonster is sexy too |
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| 10:28.03 | zenzelezz | I've never understood why they don't just delete entire threads on the WoW forums when they delete the 0th post... the rest of the thread usually doesn't make sense without that post |
| 10:30.28 | Zyuu | probably a policy |
| 10:30.34 | Zyuu | ive noticed it a lot as well |
| 10:30.46 | Zyuu | "only allowed to delete X and Y type of threads" |
| 10:32.01 | MoonWolf | if i was blizzard there would be a forum reset and a lot stricter rules |
| 10:32.11 | MoonWolf | one of them would be CM'S are always right. |
| 10:32.32 | MoonWolf | the forums are ruled by idiots and trolls |
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| 10:33.49 | AlexanderYoshi | Hey |
| 10:33.56 | AlexanderYoshi | Grats Guillotine |
| 10:34.06 | AlexanderYoshi | Does anyone here have the EJ IRC channel info? |
| 10:34.16 | AlexanderYoshi | I lost it while swapping to a new computer |
| 10:34.43 | AlexanderYoshi | Antiarc? :) |
| 10:34.52 | AlexanderYoshi | Xinhuan? :) |
| 10:35.02 | Xinhuan | gamesurge, #elitistjerks |
| 10:35.29 | AlexanderYoshi | ty |
| 10:36.37 | AlexanderYoshi | now, for the hard part: |
| 10:36.49 | AlexanderYoshi | How do I get mIRC to connect to two different servers! :) |
| 10:37.05 | Xinhuan | file --> recent servers --> new server window |
| 10:37.16 | Xinhuan | or alt+o, anc make sure the "new connection" box is ticked |
| 10:37.18 | AlexanderYoshi | Then how do I change the server? |
| 10:38.18 | AlexanderYoshi | ty |
| 10:39.57 | Diskmaster | O_o |
| 10:40.39 | MoonWolf | whyyyy do people keep using that stupidly designed piece of crap oudated irc client. |
| 10:40.51 | AlexanderYoshi | Because Trillian 3.1 is missing IRC |
| 10:40.58 | AlexanderYoshi | and i'm quite pissed about it |
| 10:41.17 | AlexanderYoshi | Also, mIRC seems reasonably updated, it's just not my preferred UI |
| 10:42.57 | MoonWolf | i likes my xchat |
| 10:43.12 | MoonWolf | but there are other clients that are not xchat that are still a lot better and friendlier than mirc |
| 10:44.11 | Fisker- | det er slet ikke overskueligt nok |
| 10:44.35 | Fisker- | HydraIRC |
| 10:44.36 | Fisker- | !11 |
| 10:45.20 | MoonWolf | riiight Fisker- i totally agree. what did you say ? |
| 10:45.24 | AlexanderYoshi | doitsugo wo hanasenain desu kedo... |
| 10:45.47 | Diskmaster | lib64/parselang_detect.so: Unable to translate. Parser broken! |
| 10:46.09 | AlexanderYoshi | Diskmasters fails to speak moon tongue! |
| 10:47.13 | Fisker- | MoonWolf something along the lines "It's not adequately forseeable" |
| 10:47.49 | MoonWolf | ah |
| 10:48.13 | AlexanderYoshi | augh |
| 10:48.16 | AlexanderYoshi | where are my timestamps |
| 10:48.24 | Fisker- | <- |
| 10:48.31 | MoonWolf | gone |
| 10:48.37 | MoonWolf | wait |
| 10:48.40 | MoonWolf | found them |
| 10:48.41 | MoonWolf | [12:48] <AlexanderYoshi> augh |
| 10:48.41 | MoonWolf | [12:48] <AlexanderYoshi> where are my timestamps |
| 10:48.46 | MoonWolf | there they are. |
| 10:48.53 | AlexanderYoshi | excellent |
| 10:48.56 | AlexanderYoshi | thanks for returning them |
| 10:49.03 | AlexanderYoshi | They are now back, safely on my screen |
| 10:49.47 | AlexanderYoshi | So how's the LK buzz now that we fed the rabid PR wolves? |
| 10:49.57 | Fisker- | not enough |
| 10:50.26 | Fisker- | also you apparently let incgamers in on the premises |
| 10:50.32 | Fisker- | which is a disappointment :( |
| 10:50.35 | AlexanderYoshi | Who? |
| 10:50.46 | Fisker- | www.worldofwar.net |
| 10:50.47 | Fisker- | those guys |
| 10:51.32 | AlexanderYoshi | Oh, that's funny, I thought we required that your web designers graduate kindergarten before doing an interview at Blizzard. |
| 10:52.14 | Fisker- | not my site :) |
| 10:52.17 | Fisker- | (luckily) |
| 10:52.19 | Fisker- | "With the implementation of giving players knockback abilities we are aiming to make teleportation abilities more realistic. As an example, Blink will now pull other players towards the area a Mage just blinked away from to represent the air filling in this formerly empty spot very abruptly, while at the Mage's appearance point after a Blink everyone will be pushed away. The effect will be less strong on Gnome Mages due to thei |
| 10:52.20 | Fisker- | hax |
| 10:52.36 | cladhaire | does anyone have access to a mac with Tiger on it? |
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| 10:53.11 | Fisker- | i hope the above also translate into "Divine Shield will also now harm the area around it" |
| 10:53.11 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 10:53.43 | Fisker- | so if i run through a player all that's left is going to be a couple of boots |
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| 11:13.23 | Fisker- | Zyuu |
| 11:13.25 | Fisker- | you there? |
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| 11:14.50 | iNerd | Ahoyhoy |
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| 11:59.23 | cncfanatics | hello ppl !! |
| 11:59.29 | AlexanderYoshi | hilo |
| 11:59.43 | cncfanatics | my sister just told me she was pregnant -.- |
| 12:00.09 | AlexanderYoshi | good job! |
| 12:00.18 | cncfanatics | I was kinda , eh, surprised |
| 12:00.21 | zenzelezz | was, or is? |
| 12:00.36 | AlexanderYoshi | How old is she? |
| 12:00.53 | cncfanatics | is, zenzelezz |
| 12:00.57 | cncfanatics | she's 26 |
| 12:01.03 | AlexanderYoshi | That's pretty normal |
| 12:01.11 | AlexanderYoshi | Congrats on being an uncle! |
| 12:01.18 | cncfanatics | heh, thanks I guess :p |
| 12:01.52 | Polarina | Anyone a good session cookie cracker? http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/game/character-copy.html |
| 12:02.13 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 12:02.41 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/kissa215.jpg |
| 12:03.06 | cncfanatics | nice pic |
| 12:03.30 | mikma | i think i have failed you guys and girls only once |
| 12:03.39 | mikma | and that was with gunther-site |
| 12:04.00 | mikma | but then again, others thought it was funny and usa-holes feared they'll be fired |
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| 12:18.14 | Polarina | Doesn't the 2.4.2 combat-log show overhealing now? |
| 12:19.18 | AlexanderYoshi | 2.4.2 hasn't released yet, has it? |
| 12:20.05 | Polarina | s/2.4.2/0.4.2/ |
| 12:20.10 | Polarina | AlexanderYoshi: Better? |
| 12:22.46 | AlexanderYoshi | Better |
| 12:23.48 | Drundia | SetTexCoord doesn't like rotating portraits :( |
| 12:24.10 | Drundia | some weird artifacts appear |
| 12:24.12 | AlexanderYoshi | TexCoord can't be used for rotation, right? |
| 12:24.19 | AlexanderYoshi | only shearing |
| 12:24.21 | cncfanatics | it sure can |
| 12:24.32 | AlexanderYoshi | how? |
| 12:24.51 | Drundia | with 8 args syntax |
| 12:25.28 | Drundia | one moment, i'll hide in some bunker... |
| 12:29.08 | Matrix110 | woot? |
| 12:29.25 | Fisker- | i was slapping Polarina not you |
| 12:29.46 | Fisker- | What do you mean by a good session cookie cracker? :O |
| 12:30.25 | Polarina | Fisker-: So I can get past the "Forbidden" page. |
| 12:30.50 | Fisker- | so you're telling me the site is active? :o |
| 12:31.07 | zenzelezz | I'm sure if they wanted you to be able to access it you wouldn't have to try to force your way |
| 12:31.36 | Polarina | Fisker-: Yes. |
| 12:31.41 | cladhaire | wlel |
| 12:31.46 | cladhaire | that page doesn't request any cookies |
| 12:31.46 | cladhaire | so |
| 12:31.50 | cladhaire | not as far as i can tell |
| 12:31.58 | cladhaire | so session cracking wouldn't .. help. |
| 12:32.09 | cladhaire | sometimes "Forbidden" is just.. "Forbidden" |
| 12:32.17 | mikma | like, forbidden fruit? |
| 12:32.36 | mikma | you can look, but you can't touch |
| 12:33.01 | Fisker- | but eve cracked the session and ate the fruit |
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| 12:33.53 | Wraanger | heyaz |
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| 12:36.32 | Drundia | page doesn't have to request cookies, it's browser's choice to send them |
| 12:37.01 | cladhaire | good point :P |
| 12:37.04 | cladhaire | i knew someone would know better |
| 12:39.37 | Fisker- | Well it would have to set a cookie first |
| 12:42.35 | cncfanatic1 | you can send fake cookies |
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| 12:44.45 | Fisker- | obviously |
| 12:45.19 | Wraanger | clad: question to you ... atm, Lightheaded loads up parts based on alphabet , yes ? previously it used level-based division ... |
| 12:46.01 | Industrial | DFUCKsdk;fjglsdkjf;g'ejk |
| 12:46.06 | Industrial | how does the queldanas bombing work |
| 12:46.12 | Industrial | i "Use" the bomb |
| 12:46.17 | Industrial | but it says i have no target |
| 12:46.24 | Industrial | ... :S its an AoE attack... |
| 12:46.44 | Industrial | even if I select the pit overlord/wrath enforcer |
| 12:47.38 | Drundia | maybe you got some weird bug? |
| 12:47.59 | Drundia | most likely the one that breaks escape key |
| 12:49.03 | Industrial | oh lmao i was using the flaming oil *facepalm* |
| 12:52.18 | Wraanger | when you use it ....you should have green targeting circle as usual AoE things works... |
| 12:52.52 | Wraanger | install yourself IHML ... andthose dailies will become FAR less mind-numbing +) |
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| 13:50.20 | Fisker- | Mike-N-Go |
| 13:50.22 | Fisker- | damnit |
| 13:50.23 | Fisker- | mikma |
| 13:50.27 | Fisker- | i cracked your session |
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| 14:02.20 | mikma | Fisker-: what session? |
| 14:03.11 | Fisker- | the one that makes your rear return 403 forbidden |
| 14:03.45 | zenzelezz | looked more like a 401 to me |
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| 14:28.35 | mikma | .. what session? |
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| 15:14.48 | Fisker- | damnit |
| 15:14.51 | Fisker- | poor Mike-N-Go |
| 15:15.18 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, not funny. |
| 15:15.41 | Fisker- | http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=259k5eqma5.png <-ooh new captcha |
| 15:16.07 | Fisker- | Lopeppeppy please elaborate as to where i suggested it would be funny |
| 15:16.18 | dylanm | Fisker-: Haaaahahahaha. |
| 15:16.26 | dylanm | I thought it was going to be the cats. |
| 15:16.52 | dylanm | I'm going to pass this around the department. I hope they've used Rapidshare or it won't make sense. |
| 15:18.11 | dylanm | But if there's one thing I've learned it's that math people laugh too easily. Especially if a joke involves math. |
| 15:18.46 | Industrial | Anyone have experience with XML in wow? |
| 15:18.48 | Industrial | http://pastebin.com/m9f9dec1 |
| 15:18.53 | Industrial | My gradient won't show :D? |
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| 15:19.33 | Industrial | Wraanger: IHML? |
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| 15:21.58 | Shirik | this is so much fun, in the car on irc |
| 15:22.00 | Shirik | muahaha |
| 15:23.09 | dylanm | Industrial: Why in the balls did you capitalize the attributes at the bottom |
| 15:23.32 | Industrial | Shirik: irc on phone :D? |
| 15:23.56 | dylanm | So far that's the only thing that sticks out. |
| 15:24.05 | Shirik | verizon evdo card |
| 15:24.18 | Industrial | cuz thats how the book teaches me dylanm ! xD |
| 15:24.52 | Industrial | creates a frame and shows it fine tho, just not with a gradient, only the <Color/> shows. |
| 15:25.22 | dylanm | Mention the specifics earlier :p that's odd though... |
| 15:26.56 | Industrial | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/b0327444599da2116ea28b7b567d9172.jpg |
| 15:27.07 | dylanm | I can't imagine setting the alphaMode would help... |
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| 15:28.25 | dylanm | Why do you have to set the color anyway.. |
| 15:28.54 | Industrial | dunno |
| 15:30.34 | Industrial | http://pastebin.com/m2315c38d |
| 15:31.10 | Industrial | man, this reminds me of FaraFrames. |
| 15:31.22 | dylanm | Haha. |
| 15:37.50 | Wraanger | Indy - IHML = IHaveMacroLol ...very good addon ) |
| 15:38.30 | Industrial | i will not install that just because it has that name |
| 15:38.40 | Wraanger | +) |
| 15:39.46 | Wraanger | I give almost no value to names - function is what matters +) |
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| 15:51.11 | Industrial | fine. skipskipskip; Chap16: Writing an Addon Without XML |
| 15:51.13 | Industrial | =:P\ |
| 15:51.16 | Industrial | >:P* |
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| 15:53.11 | Mike-N-Go | Fisker-: What need you? |
| 15:55.15 | mikma | Industrial: what'cha codin? |
| 15:57.04 | Industrial | nothing >:P |
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| 16:30.46 | SpiderBK | hi |
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| 16:38.36 | SpiderBK | if i want to copy table1 in table={table1={}} to table={table1={},table2={}}; can i do this with table.table2=CopyTable(table.table1)? |
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| 16:45.22 | Drundia | as long as it doesn't contain references to itself it should be fine |
| 16:45.40 | Drundia | so if i understand you yes you can |
| 16:45.43 | Jobob | I am having an odd problem, can someone help? |
| 16:46.04 | SpiderBK | what do you mean with references to itself? |
| 16:46.37 | Drundia | t={}; t.t=t; CopyTable(t) => stack overflow |
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| 16:46.46 | Drundia | that's what someone told a few days ago |
| 16:47.25 | SpiderBK | ah ok |
| 16:48.13 | Lopeppeppy | Jobob, explain your problem to us, and we might. :) |
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| 16:59.27 | Fisker- | Mike-N-Go i just suck at tab-completing stuff |
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| 17:22.01 | SpiderBK | how do i create a fontstring in lua? |
| 17:23.06 | MentalPower|ZzZz | Frame:CreateFontString(...) |
| 17:23.07 | Polarina | SpiderBK: local font_string = new "FontString" -- Be more specific. |
| 17:23.54 | SpiderBK | hmm strange i thought i tried CreateFontStringe once and got an error, lets see |
| 17:24.03 | SpiderBK | -e |
| 17:24.59 | Drundia | it's Frame:CreateFontString(["name"[,"layer"[,"inheritsFrom"]]]) |
| 17:25.07 | Drundia | that should work |
| 17:25.10 | SpiderBK | ok |
| 17:25.24 | Drundia | it's also a method, so the "Frame:" part is important |
| 17:25.41 | Drundia | of course it should be your frame |
| 17:25.44 | Drundia | not literal Frame |
| 17:27.18 | MentalPower | unless your frame is called Frame, which is bad :P |
| 17:27.30 | SpiderBK | ^^ |
| 17:27.39 | Mikk | UIParent.CreateFontString(myFrameHere, ....) |
| 17:27.41 | Mikk | ^ Max confusion! |
| 17:28.55 | Drundia | That's what I used for hooked methods to get real one, though later twisted methods were getmetatable(self).__index.Method |
| 17:29.29 | MentalPower | ... |
| 17:29.48 | Iriel | getmetatable followed by __index is the 'cleaner' way, I prefer that one myself. |
| 17:30.46 | Drundia | Though I would just make a table for that having <Type>Metatable = getmetatable(<FrameOfTypeType>) |
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| 17:30.55 | Drundia | I believe it may be faster |
| 17:31.03 | Drundia | even with .__index after |
| 17:31.21 | Drundia | as long as we know expected type.... |
| 17:32.29 | Iriel | I think getmetatable is faster than :GetObjectType() |
| 17:32.43 | Iriel | but I would hope nobody was doing tricks like that in tight loops where it matters 8-) |
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| 17:37.34 | Drundia | of course there can be cases with hooked metatable entries, but that can be bypassed only if we know where the real thing resides. |
| 17:38.24 | Polarina | Iriel: Will you take over that information for me? Please... *beg* |
| 17:39.39 | Drundia | debugprofilestart(); for i=1,1e6 do local a=getmetatable(UIParent) end; print(debugprofilestop()) |
| 17:39.39 | Drundia | debugprofilestart(); for i=1,1e6 do local a=UIParent:GetObjectType() end; print(debugprofilestop()) |
| 17:39.42 | Drundia | almost same results! |
| 17:40.01 | Polarina | Drundia: Try 4e7 |
| 17:40.10 | Drundia | haha |
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| 17:41.33 | Iriel | Interesting, they've improved the performnce of method calls it would seem 8-) |
| 17:41.42 | Iriel | that's nice to know |
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| 17:44.25 | Drundia | could it happen around 2.0 where objects of different type stopped sharing metatables? |
| 17:44.46 | Iriel | The reason for the use-frame-__index was all about eprformance |
| 17:44.59 | Iriel | but I could have sworn that the lua->C++ jump was still relatively expensive. |
| 17:45.38 | Iriel | What the comparison like if you bind getmetatable to a local before the loop? |
| 17:46.35 | Drundia | around 5-6% difference |
| 17:47.38 | Polarina | Drundia: Now make UIParent.GetObjectType a local named 'GetObjectType' and do GetObjectType(GetObjectType) |
| 17:48.58 | Drundia | that's better |
| 17:49.20 | Polarina | Drundia: Which performs better? |
| 17:50.11 | Drundia | local GetObjectType=UIParent.GetObjectType; debugprofilestart(); for i=1,1e6 do local a=GetObjectType(UIParent) end; print(debugprofilestop()); |
| 17:50.16 | Drundia | this one |
| 17:50.38 | Polarina | Drundia: Make UIParent a local too. |
| 17:52.45 | Drundia | they are equal in both cases |
| 17:52.49 | Drundia | one lookup |
| 17:53.02 | Polarina | Drundia: I want you to do zero lookups. |
| 17:53.07 | Drundia | pfff |
| 17:53.11 | Iriel | Yes, but in reality you can't cache UIParent.GetObjectType |
| 17:53.19 | Drundia | i can |
| 17:53.21 | Iriel | At least, not "safely" (even if you really CAN) |
| 17:53.29 | Iriel | It's a stupid comparison at that point |
| 17:53.31 | Drundia | how safely? |
| 17:53.46 | Iriel | Well, the point of the method call is you dont know the frame type to begin with |
| 17:54.05 | Drundia | a small test showed that it will work on all types |
| 17:54.08 | Iriel | and there's no GUARANTEE that you can use a Frame's GetObjectType on say, a Texture (even though, today, you really can get away with that kind of thing) |
| 17:54.11 | Drundia | and have proper returns |
| 17:54.12 | Iriel | Yes, but you're missing my point |
| 17:54.16 | Drundia | oh texture |
| 17:54.19 | Drundia | one moment |
| 17:54.26 | Iriel | it still works, at least used to |
| 17:54.35 | Iriel | but the point is, there is only *ONE* getmetatable function |
| 17:54.36 | Drundia | yes it does |
| 17:54.45 | Iriel | whereas there are potentially N different GetObjectType methods |
| 17:55.03 | Iriel | slouken could change it next patch for all we know, put a constant lua function into each frame metatable |
| 17:55.16 | Iriel | so that frame's GetObjectType was return "Frame"; |
| 17:55.21 | Iriel | (Yes, I know he wont) |
| 17:55.34 | Polarina | Iriel: Zootfizzle will? |
| 17:55.36 | Drundia | aaaa they are different |
| 17:55.46 | Iriel | they're different functions, they just all behave the same way |
| 17:55.58 | Drundia | they could be just different closures |
| 18:01.59 | Drundia | I don't think there is many functions of the same name that behave differently. |
| 18:02.54 | zenzelezz | all GetObjectTypes are equal, but some GetObjectTypes are more equal than others |
| 18:03.01 | Iriel | there are none in an inheritance path |
| 18:03.48 | Iriel | i.e. if there exists A.Xyz() and B.Xyz() and A:IsObjectType(B:GetObjectType()) then the methods behave identically |
| 18:04.03 | Iriel | that may change, of course, but for the time being it's true |
| 18:04.19 | Iriel | it's not true if you remove the inheritance relationship |
| 18:04.34 | Iriel | SimpleHTML is a good counterexample in that case |
| 18:04.51 | Iriel | But it is 'usually true' 8-) |
| 18:05.49 | Drundia | what does SimpleHTML do different and how? |
| 18:07.01 | Iriel | the font methods take an extra parameter at the start saying WHICH font to change |
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| 18:26.44 | kergoth | ugh, didnt realize you have to manually save the pages in wowlua |
| 18:27.03 | cladhaire | reloaded without saving one |
| 18:27.07 | cladhaire | we're adding auto-save in |
| 18:27.11 | cladhaire | just haven't had an opportunity to do it yet. |
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| 18:33.59 | kergoth | figured, not a huge deal now that i realize :P |
| 18:37.12 | cladhaire | i sowwy |
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| 18:54.08 | NightHawkTheSane | "You can't be serious." "Yes I can. I just choose not to be." |
| 18:55.23 | zenzelezz | sounds like the line from Airplane |
| 18:55.44 | zenzelezz | "Surely you can't be serious." "I am serious, and don't call me Shirley" |
| 18:59.36 | bleeter | and another one gets hit by the guild info bug |
| 18:59.56 | zenzelezz | ..? |
| 19:00.27 | bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6417381967&sid=1 |
| 19:01.02 | bleeter | i believe guillotine sent off the info (prolly to slouken or zoot) on what specifically causes it |
| 19:01.56 | zenzelezz | hadn't heard of that issue |
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| 19:07.12 | foxlit | "0 errors, 109 warnings, 0 infos" |
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| 19:14.29 | Kaso | Keias, there is such a website, i just cant remeber what it is... |
| 19:15.08 | Kaso | oh wait |
| 19:15.23 | Kaso | i think i just replied to a question 14 hours ago |
| 19:15.33 | NightHawkTheSane | zenzelezz: sg-1, to be sure. :P |
| 19:16.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaso: you did, and you even made the same reply as me.. :P |
| 19:16.37 | Kaso | that'll teach me to suspend my computer! |
| 19:16.38 | Kaso | http://wowvault.ign.com/View.php?category_select_id=10&category_show_all=0&view=Talents.View.Beta |
| 19:16.43 | Kaso | that was the website i was thinking of |
| 19:18.27 | NightHawkTheSane | probably the same one i was as well |
| 19:24.24 | Industrial | Question: Can I raid kara only once every week? I can't go every day :P? |
| 19:25.38 | Drundia | of course you can if you don't clear it or with different characters |
| 19:27.00 | Drundia | actually i know what freezes client! |
| 19:27.02 | Drundia | |4 does |
| 19:27.04 | Drundia | or wait |
| 19:27.05 | Drundia | |3 |
| 19:27.36 | Drundia | was it known? |
| 19:31.45 | Industrial | "|4" ? |
| 19:32.31 | Industrial | oh so if you go in and kill everything cept say prince machelzaar and then go out and reset and go in and kill the prince and go out and reset, you can do it again? |
| 19:32.40 | cladhaire | any HTML/CSS folks chilling |
| 19:32.49 | Industrial | hai (not pro) |
| 19:32.51 | cladhaire | I need to figure out how to make sure the page can't be smaller than this image: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets_hierarchy |
| 19:33.00 | cladhaire | i know there's something stupid, i just dunno what it is :P |
| 19:33.25 | haste | min-width :p ? |
| 19:33.30 | Kaso | when i got back to campus today there was some people doing this race for cancer research or something, mostly amusing was the the person who'd just finished and lighted up a fag |
| 19:33.44 | Industrial | lol |
| 19:33.49 | cladhaire | haste: i dont want to have to specify the min-width of the body element |
| 19:33.52 | cladhaire | but if thats the only way |
| 19:33.53 | Kaso | (cigarette) for non english people) |
| 19:33.53 | bleeter | good stuff |
| 19:34.01 | haste | cladhaire: that or do something with JS |
| 19:34.45 | nevcairiel | You want to force the brother width above a certain value? |
| 19:34.50 | nevcairiel | i guess that needs JS magic |
| 19:34.50 | Industrial | lighting up a fag; giving a new meaning to flaming homosexuals :-P |
| 19:35.01 | nevcairiel | brother=browser |
| 19:35.14 | haste | brother works :p |
| 19:36.41 | Industrial | hm, can I give a statusbar no texture but only a color like SetTexture(1, 0, 0) ? |
| 19:36.57 | Industrial | or would I need to make a flat texture :p |
| 19:37.16 | nevcairiel | I think that needs a flat texture, iirc |
| 19:37.28 | Industrial | k |
| 19:37.50 | haste | if it does, you could always do: sb:GetTexture():SetTexture(1, 0, 0) |
| 19:38.11 | Industrial | hmm :D |
| 19:38.36 | haste | :GetStatusBarTexture* |
| 19:42.03 | Industrial | haste: magic :D |
| 19:45.42 | Industrial | haste: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/3d4ca1439335c90e67e769d63bdc0bba.jpg |
| 19:45.53 | Industrial | (I know the air is ugly there but i have my settings low) |
| 19:46.17 | Industrial | and jpg makes it worse. |
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| 19:47.31 | kergoth | is there a way to determine if you've been given an item? (i.e. master looted), other than the CHAT_MSG_LOOT? |
| 19:51.12 | Drundia | "BAG_UPDATE" maybe |
| 19:51.41 | Drundia | could also be "UNIT_INVENTORY_CHANGED" |
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| 20:05.00 | kergoth | The item being crafted/given/looted sometimes hits the bags before the loot event, sometimes after. i have code that tracks pending loot state by watching bag update and the loot messages, but i'm hoping to avoid having to watch BAG_UPDATE all the time. for loot, i can scan the loot window and watch for those, and stop scanning bags when they hit the bags.. and tradeskill i'm sure i can watch the spellcasts, but for _pushed, i dont think i |
| 20:05.00 | kergoth | have any other option :\ |
| 20:05.04 | kergoth | heh |
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| 20:28.23 | bleeter | gah, where's guillotine when ya dead him |
| 20:28.25 | bleeter | *need |
| 20:28.31 | bleeter | wtf I say dead... /shrug |
| 20:31.27 | Drundia | that's an omen! |
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| 20:48.04 | Kaso | http://www.cloudane.com/stuff/6999.jpg |
| 20:48.09 | Kaso | this is rediculous |
| 20:52.00 | bleeter | oh god, it's a different issue |
| 20:52.03 | bleeter | it'd seem |
| 20:52.42 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=4010131511&sid=1 <-please don't hurt me anymore |
| 20:52.54 | Fisker- | wait your turn bleeter |
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| 20:58.38 | bleeter | :( |
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| 21:02.14 | cladhaire | http://drama.pastey.net/75426 |
| 21:02.50 | Kaso | lol at drama.pastey |
| 21:02.59 | cladhaire | :P |
| 21:03.28 | nevcairiel | how come you just post that now? :P |
| 21:04.14 | Kaso | i do recall Intangir |
| 21:04.29 | nevcairiel | yeah he always was drama |
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| 21:05.54 | cladhaire | just cuz |
| 21:05.56 | cladhaire | i happened upon it |
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| 21:06.56 | bleeter | ugh yup |
| 21:07.07 | bleeter | looks like there's two issues still with guild notes/motd etc. :/ |
| 21:07.23 | zenzelezz | oh my, the "this is not china" conversation... I remember that =D |
| 21:07.45 | bleeter | if anyone sees him connect, please ask him to urgently ping me, or msg syndri via the CSF or prolly even Zoot |
| 21:08.00 | nevcairiel | i fail to reproduce that guild thing |
| 21:08.23 | bleeter | nevcairiel: guillotine told me he had, and syndri's now saying she's seeing something else causing the same result |
| 21:08.31 | bleeter | although still related to guild foo |
| 21:09.11 | bleeter | we're both dodging around the specifics, so without zoot/guil, it's hard to actually confirm much hehe |
| 21:09.22 | nevcairiel | hehe |
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| 21:09.42 | [Liquidor] | Hi everyone :-) |
| 21:09.57 | bleeter | which probably of itself is good, 'coz then no other bastard knows precisely how to do it (apart from those who've been 'touched' by it) |
| 21:10.39 | bleeter | nevcairiel: yeah, earlier reports had a DoS against the entire guild, this appears to be a DoS against individual guild toons |
| 21:11.22 | nevcairiel | I suppose its good that i cant find out more about it on the forums ;) |
| 21:11.31 | bleeter | haha yup :D |
| 21:11.51 | nevcairiel | As long as its true that Guill notified zoot or slouken |
| 21:12.11 | bleeter | he didn't say who he passed his code along to that achieved the result |
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| 21:12.52 | Shirik | bleeter: You can use the mail service here to do that |
| 21:12.54 | bleeter | i just wanna give him a heads up that there's something else that both Syndri and I suspected had the same cause, and she's of the opinion it doesn't look like it, although similar |
| 21:12.54 | fackingshitter | gasolina!~!!!!! |
| 21:13.02 | bleeter | Shirik: yea, I know ;) :P |
| 21:13.14 | bleeter | Shirik: just as much as people can ignore the mail service :P |
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| 21:14.02 | Shirik | I dunno |
| 21:14.07 | Shirik | when I got mail I was like "wtf is that" |
| 21:14.13 | Shirik | caught my attention very well |
| 21:14.50 | nevcairiel | ~botmail you mean? |
| 21:14.53 | Shirik | no |
| 21:15.17 | nevcairiel | memoserve? |
| 21:15.23 | Shirik | that's it |
| 21:15.24 | nevcairiel | or what its caleld |
| 21:15.37 | nevcairiel | I only leave botmail's |
| 21:15.43 | nevcairiel | ~botmail for Shirik: hi! |
| 21:15.47 | Shirik | -_- |
| 21:15.53 | Shirik | ~botmail delete |
| 21:16.00 | nevcairiel | did it instantly notify you? :D |
| 21:16.09 | Shirik | no actually |
| 21:16.12 | Shirik | I expected it to |
| 21:16.33 | zenzelezz | I would think it just listens for joins |
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| 21:19.49 | Adys | http://digg.com/microsoft/MSN_messenger_blocking_youtube_links |
| 21:20.16 | Kaso | wtf ^_- |
| 21:21.31 | Adys | just tested here it works on my secondary account but is blocked on my first one |
| 21:21.33 | Adys | go figure |
| 21:22.24 | bleeter | msn dropds a whole shitload of URLs |
| 21:22.39 | bleeter | try something with a .php ending, last time I 'tested' it wouldn't go through, as an EG |
| 21:22.55 | bleeter | there are others, can't recall the precise bits tho |
| 21:22.58 | Adys | download.php doesnt go through |
| 21:23.07 | Shirik | wtf |
| 21:23.08 | Adys | yea had it discussed on the mercury forums a while back |
| 21:23.20 | Adys | but domain blocking is something they didnt do before |
| 21:23.22 | Shirik | This is as bad as outlook's "Sorry you can't download that attachment" |
| 21:23.33 | Shirik | stuff like this should be OPTIONAL |
| 21:23.37 | Shirik | and can be turned off |
| 21:23.43 | bleeter | Adys: hmm, think they might've. it's been 4 or 5 years since it was discussed in #pidgin |
| 21:23.45 | Shirik | not "We're microsoft, we control the world, and this is how you must do it" |
| 21:23.51 | Adys | more like stuff like this should be clientside, let their client suck as much as they want |
| 21:24.03 | Adys | as long as it goes through in alternative clients |
| 21:24.12 | bleeter | MSN *IS* one of the big two crappy IM protocols |
| 21:24.24 | Shirik | the other being... skype? |
| 21:24.28 | bleeter | YIM |
| 21:24.32 | Shirik | oh yeah |
| 21:24.33 | Shirik | ha |
| 21:24.39 | Shirik | I forgot about that |
| 21:24.41 | bleeter | don't think anyone's rev eng'd skype yet |
| 21:24.44 | bleeter | so hard to say ;) |
| 21:24.51 | Adys | one of the three |
| 21:24.54 | Adys | xfire :) |
| 21:25.08 | Shirik | skype has too much "stuff" going on |
| 21:25.30 | Shirik | we used to use skype as a chat for one of the jobs I worked at, and I constantly accidentally called people instead of sending them private messages |
| 21:25.34 | Adys | actually im pretty sure there are more particularly with the trend to, instead of giving your IM address, creating your own network |
| 21:25.41 | zenzelezz | MSN Messenger already sucked ass. Like allowing you to download an MP3, then removing all traces of the file if you click the link in the message window because it "could be dangerous" |
| 21:25.45 | Shirik | because, you know, in a chat program, double clicking someone's name should totally call them |
| 21:25.48 | Shirik | not open a private chat |
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| 21:27.32 | Drundia | Shirik, you need to touch some settings, but that's indeed stupid |
| 21:27.36 | Kaso | Shirik, well you know skype is a voip program not a chat program... |
| 21:27.51 | Shirik | true |
| 21:27.58 | Shirik | but when you're in a CHAT ROOM |
| 21:28.05 | Shirik | and you double click the person's name in a CHAT ROOM |
| 21:28.05 | Kaso | perhaps then |
| 21:28.08 | Shirik | come on |
| 21:29.33 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Seerah. |
| 21:30.00 | Seerah | not morning, but just got home from work :) /hi2peppy |
| 21:30.11 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, evening, noon, midnight... Rawr. Heya. |
| 21:30.15 | Seerah | :D |
| 21:30.17 | nevcairiel | its always morning when you enter irc :) |
| 21:30.25 | Seerah | yep |
| 21:30.35 | Seerah | GOOD MORNING! now I want to go back to sleep :P |
| 21:30.45 | Seerah | but making dinner and have to sing in our last concert tonight |
| 21:31.28 | Shirik | Seerah |
| 21:31.30 | Shirik | ~ugt |
| 21:31.30 | purl | [ugt] Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 21:31.33 | Seerah | Shirik |
| 21:32.54 | zenzelezz | "You see, movie tie in games tend to⦠well thereâs no easy way to say this, they suck harder than Paris Hilton." -- lol |
| 21:33.09 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 21:34.48 | Adys | Kaso, bleeter, heard deviantart and googlepages urls don't go through either |
| 21:35.04 | Adys | googlepages doesnt work here on either accts, dA works on both *shrugs* |
| 21:35.46 | bleeter | Adys: MSN is shit, understand that and there's no need to go working out what passes and what doesn't ;) |
| 21:36.07 | Adys | never said the opposite :P |
| 21:36.09 | zenzelezz | I just wish I could convince all my friends to jump from MSN to a real protocol |
| 21:36.26 | bleeter | zenzelezz: if they have a gmail address.... |
| 21:37.15 | Adys | yeah what bleeter said |
| 21:37.25 | bleeter | I'm getting to the point where I'll only have contacts on IRC and XMPP |
| 21:37.27 | Adys | i managed to convert over three quarters of mine |
| 21:37.33 | zenzelezz | bleeter: like I said, if I could convince them |
| 21:37.43 | bleeter | zenzelezz: get smarter friends |
| 21:37.52 | zenzelezz | I have few enough as it is |
| 21:37.53 | bleeter | zenzelezz: yuo'll thank me in the long run |
| 21:37.58 | bleeter | oh :( |
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| 21:40.38 | Adys | i use both, ill stop using msn when the couple of contacts i still want on my list who are too damn thickheaded will use gtalk |
| 21:41.38 | bleeter | Adys: you want them on your list.. see here's the problem. you need to engineer the position so that they want you on their list ;) :P |
| 21:41.56 | Adys | yeah |
| 21:42.01 | Adys | Bibi, drop msn you sucker |
| 21:42.10 | bleeter | Bibi: yeah, sucker |
| 21:42.19 | bleeter | ;) :P |
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| 22:08.35 | SpiderBK | isnt it possible to change the x/y coordinates of frames which were created in lua? o_O |
| 22:08.51 | kergoth | yes... |
| 22:08.58 | kergoth | read the wowwiki page on SetPoint |
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| 22:12.02 | SpiderBK | and what should i read there? there hasnt changed anything in the last 3 years |
| 22:13.33 | Kaso | all of it? |
| 22:15.22 | kergoth | if you can't be bothered to read the documentation, you aren't going to get anywhere. nobody's going to do it for you. |
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| 22:15.44 | Drundia | omg math.name trigonometric functions are in radians, but name ones are in degrees.... |
| 22:16.05 | SpiderBK | i always take a look at the wiki before using something.... |
| 22:16.05 | mikma | poop |
| 22:16.05 | Shirik | ? |
| 22:16.12 | mikma | Shirik: poop! |
| 22:16.20 | Drundia | and i was wondering why it doesn't work... |
| 22:16.24 | Shirik | that's interesting |
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| 22:16.51 | Kaso | Drundia thats why i never use the global binds |
| 22:17.32 | kergoth | SpiderBK: apparently you didn't look close enough. http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetPoint is accurate. |
| 22:17.42 | Drundia | of course only i could fail like that, grabbing local cos and sin from math table, but using global atan2 |
| 22:17.50 | Footrot | Hey everyone. What's the best way to detect that you've just started an Arena match? Key off ZONE_CHANGED and look for 'Ruins of Lordaeron' from GetRealZoneText() etc, or is there a better way? |
| 22:18.30 | Drundia | IsInInstance() |
| 22:18.41 | kergoth | Footrot: local instance, instancetype = IsIninstance() if instance and instancetype == "arena" then... end |
| 22:18.42 | SpiderBK | kergoth: thats exactly where i looked.... |
| 22:18.50 | kergoth | SpiderBK: so try reading it. |
| 22:18.54 | kergoth | it helps |
| 22:19.16 | NightHawkTheSane | reading is overrated. |
| 22:19.29 | Footrot | <3 - Thanks very much. I was hoping there'd be something future proof and that didn't need localization! Much appreciated. |
| 22:19.34 | Shirik | reading is as useful as commenting code |
| 22:19.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: haha.. so appropriate, and so ironic. |
| 22:19.54 | Shirik | you never do it until you realize that you actually need to |
| 22:20.25 | [Liquidor] | Why did the chicken cross the road to go to the toilet? |
| 22:21.13 | [Liquidor] | Because that's where all the cocks hang out. |
| 22:21.30 | SpiderBK | my frame is at position 0,0 and if i do frame:ClearAllPoints();frame:SetPoint(point,parent,relativepoint, 200, 200); the frame stays at 0,0. i cant find any documentation about what im missing. |
| 22:21.56 | Kaso | are you actually using "parent relativepoint" etc? |
| 22:22.48 | SpiderBK | yes |
| 22:23.05 | Kaso | well theres your issue |
| 22:23.19 | kergoth | read the examples on the wiki page. |
| 22:23.21 | SpiderBK | why? the parent of frame isnt UIParent |
| 22:23.22 | Kaso | i suggest you look at the examples in |
| 22:23.43 | Footrot | Now are only your spell cooldowns reset when entering an arena, or equipped trinkets, and bag items (potions etc, regardless of whether they can be used or not) reset as well? |
| 22:25.16 | Kaso | SpiderBK unless you asssign point parent and relativepoint variables to the correct values that line of code wont work |
| 22:25.16 | Kaso | and if you do, please show us what you set them too |
| 22:25.26 | SpiderBK | Kaso: you dont really think im using point, rpoint do you? because i dont |
| 22:25.56 | Kaso | well then what perhaps if you actually told us what you are passing to the function we might be able to troubleshoot better.. |
| 22:26.04 | kergoth | i dont see how you expect us to help if you dont give any information. showing what functions you run dont tell us anythin gwihtou ttelling us what you're passing |
| 22:26.12 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:26.14 | Drundia | <Kaso> are you actually using "parent relativepoint" etc? <SpiderBK> yes <SpiderBK> Kaso: you dont really think im using point, rpoint do you? because i dont |
| 22:26.16 | Drundia | that's nice |
| 22:27.25 | SpiderBK | i use them as locals in the function so i use them but they are variables so i dont:D |
| 22:27.39 | Footrot | Are only your spell cooldowns reset when entering an arena, or equipped trinkets, and bag items (potions etc, regardless of whether they can be used or not) reset as well? |
| 22:27.53 | Drundia | Footrot, I think everything is reset |
| 22:28.01 | Footrot | Thanks muchly. |
| 22:28.21 | Drundia | But that's only what I think... |
| 22:28.49 | kergoth | SpiderBK: for the 4th time, tell us what those variables are set to when you pass them to setpoint. |
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| 22:29.31 | SpiderBK | myframe:ClearAllPoints();myframe:SetPoint("CENTER","UIParent","CENTER", 200, 200); |
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| 22:30.20 | Shirik | .... |
| 22:30.22 | Shirik | (18:29:48) (purl) You have 1 messages awaiting, from: nevcairiel (botmail read) |
| 22:30.30 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 22:30.31 | Shirik | spammed 3 times as I join all the channels purl's in >.> |
| 22:31.00 | Drundia | SpiderBK, somehow I believe that should work... |
| 22:31.01 | SpiderBK | so why wont the frame move from 0,0 to 200, 200 when i do that? |
| 22:31.18 | foxlit | moo |
| 22:31.26 | Drundia | maybe it's too big? |
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| 22:31.29 | foxlit | SetPoint takes frame names, now? |
| 22:31.32 | foxlit | since when? |
| 22:31.38 | Drundia | it does for second parameter |
| 22:31.41 | Drundia | as an option |
| 22:31.58 | SpiderBK | maybe i should relog and see if it works after that... |
| 22:32.14 | Drundia | maybe you should try to use it as /script |
| 22:32.15 | foxlit | Drundia: you base that on? |
| 22:32.24 | Drundia | I think I did it... |
| 22:32.29 | foxlit | Error text says [, region or nil] |
| 22:37.14 | Footrot | Thanks for your help guys. Have a good day. :) |
| 22:37.17 | Drundia | That can only mean that I have hooked SetPoint(), but issecurevariable() seems to say that all possible SetPoint entries are secure |
| 22:37.33 | Drundia | which means that having it hooked is highly unlikely to be the case |
| 22:38.27 | Drundia | foxlit, what exactly did you do to get that error? |
| 22:39.31 | Drundia | even http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API says it can take name or object there: Region:SetPoint("point","relativeFrame" or relativeObject,"relativePoint"[, xOfs, yOfs]) |
| 22:43.42 | SpiderBK | if i save the point, parent, and relative point and move the frame i need to get the new point, parent and relpoint after moving the frame, is that right? |
| 22:45.00 | Drundia | Yes they should be new if frame moves |
| 22:46.09 | widgertick | O_o |
| 22:46.15 | widgertick | Maybe it's too big? :P |
| 22:46.29 | Shirik | that's what she said |
| 22:46.39 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik! |
| 22:46.44 | SpiderBK | what is too big? o_O |
| 22:46.45 | Shirik | sorry!! |
| 22:46.57 | Shirik | long day, my head is not with it |
| 22:46.59 | Lopeppeppy | And I called you reasonable. *shakes head gently* |
| 22:47.04 | Shirik | :( |
| 22:47.56 | Shirik | time for food though |
| 22:48.01 | Shirik | sorry Lopeppeppy! |
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| 23:34.00 | Crysli | Hiya |
| 23:34.08 | Cide | y helo dar |
| 23:40.21 | nevcairiel | isnt it "tar"? |
| 23:40.34 | nevcairiel | or thar even |
| 23:40.59 | Cide | I prefer dar since I'm swedish |
