| 00:00.23 | batrick | lol |
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| 00:10.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Sixen: yeah |
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| 00:32.22 | michael40 | I have an issue, I can't sell any items to vendors, does any know how to do this after installing cosmos? |
| 00:33.20 | Yssaril | what was the lua command to dump a function to a string? (and yes i know id doesn't work in WoW) |
| 00:33.26 | KarlKFI | try searching the forums |
| 00:34.22 | michael40 | KarlKFI, was that answer for me |
| 00:34.29 | KarlKFI | yes |
| 00:34.36 | michael40 | thanks |
| 00:35.11 | Gotai | Yssaril: string.dump? |
| 00:35.40 | Yssaril | ty gotai i must have overlooked that like 3 times |
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| 00:38.16 | MentalPower | Yssaril: it works fine in WoW |
| 00:38.25 | MentalPower | you just can't loadstring() the result |
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| 01:12.12 | bleeter | goddamn isps aargh |
| 01:15.13 | |pez| | I'm more annoyed at my horribly slow computer. |
| 01:16.09 | MentalPower | |pez|: format? |
| 01:16.15 | MentalPower | or is it a hardware issue? |
| 01:18.23 | |pez| | MentalPower: Old laptop |
| 01:20.49 | |pez| | My other laptop sort of died at The Gathering. |
| 01:21.14 | |pez| | And I crashed my car on my way home from the gathering. -__-' |
| 01:21.31 | MentalPower | eek! |
| 01:21.50 | |pez| | Damned old people shouldn't be allowed behind the wheel. -__-' |
| 01:22.26 | SinePi | pez: so you crashed your car or someone crashed it? :) |
| 01:23.22 | MentalPower | SinePi: subtle :P |
| 01:23.54 | |pez| | SinePi: Ok, imagine this, you're on a where the others are supposed to stop for you, and not drive into the road. |
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| 01:24.00 | SinePi | MentalPower: the only third option would be that pez is old and shouldn't be allowed behind the wheel :> |
| 01:24.01 | |pez| | I don't know what that's called in English. |
| 01:24.11 | SinePi | pez: right of way? |
| 01:24.17 | |pez| | Probably? |
| 01:24.24 | |pez| | Anyway, I'm on one of those roads. |
| 01:24.32 | |pez| | Driving in a whole of 50km/hour |
| 01:24.51 | |pez| | There's a car wanting to get out in the road, like... faar faar ahead. |
| 01:25.23 | |pez| | And it's standing there... until I get like 10metres away. |
| 01:25.28 | |pez| | and then the old woman drives into the road. |
| 01:25.31 | SinePi | so if it's their fault, then they crashed your car, not you crashed it. :) |
| 01:25.32 | |pez| | sees me, and stops. |
| 01:26.07 | |pez| | if she had just... continues driving, it most likely wouldn't have been a crash. |
| 01:26.23 | |pez| | continued* |
| 01:26.25 | SinePi | Her insurance should cover it, however, right? |
| 01:26.34 | |pez| | I certainly hope so. :P |
| 01:26.57 | SinePi | Positive thinking: SHE crashed YOUR car, damned old fart. Not you crashed it. ;P |
| 01:27.10 | |pez| | My car will probably be condemned though. |
| 01:27.19 | |pez| | Since it's old. :P |
| 01:28.06 | |pez| | And doesn't have much value except bringing me from A to B on a daily basis. |
| 01:30.00 | JoshBorke | isn't that all that cars are useful for? |
| 01:31.19 | |pez| | Well, sure, but that's not what the insurancepeople think about. :P |
| 01:31.27 | |pez| | They'd fix a newer car I could e.g sell. |
| 01:34.57 | |pez| | But it will probably end up with my car being condemned, and they give me a wee bit of money to buy a new one. |
| 01:37.29 | JoshBorke | oh, did you get into an accident? |
| 01:37.39 | |pez| | read up ^^ |
| 01:38.23 | JoshBorke | i just did |
| 01:38.26 | JoshBorke | i'm sorry to hear that pez |
| 01:38.44 | |pez| | I've been carless for one and a half month. ;___; |
| 01:38.49 | JoshBorke | wow |
| 01:38.55 | |pez| | my mobility, it is gone. :P |
| 01:40.11 | |pez| | So my car and my computer all died on the same week. |
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| 01:42.38 | Shirik | YES! |
| 01:42.41 | Shirik | RoS down! |
| 01:42.42 | Shirik | finally! |
| 01:44.38 | bleeter | grats |
| 01:44.58 | bleeter | Cairenn: btw, a little birdy just told me that someone's reported the DesignatedDriver addon from WoWI to hacks@ |
| 01:45.19 | bleeter | Cairenn: just thought I'd give you, and the general authorship community, a heads up ;) |
| 01:45.34 | bleeter | no, the little birdy wasn't me... someone from Customer Service Forum |
| 01:45.56 | Cairenn | thanks |
| 01:46.27 | Elessdy | hacks@? haven't heard of that one before |
| 01:46.58 | Cairenn | hacks@blizzard.com |
| 01:47.16 | Elessdy | ah |
| 01:48.42 | SinePi | it's likely they'll just block addon access to FollowUnit... which could actually be consistent with their "no addon-initiated movement" policy. |
| 01:49.10 | Cairenn | link to the thread, bleeter? |
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| 01:49.46 | bleeter | Cairenn: was in a IRC PM on another network |
| 01:49.53 | Cairenn | ah |
| 01:50.22 | Cairenn | (2008-05-08 21:47:31) bleeter: no, the little birdy wasn't me... someone from Customer Service Forum <== made me think there was a thread |
| 01:50.38 | bleeter | just briefly, personally I think it's fine for multiboxers, but there's a line that is possible to cross using it. just my uneducated 2c ;) |
| 01:50.45 | bleeter | Cairenn: yeah, soz about that... I should've clarified |
| 01:51.00 | bleeter | I've been trying to get the CSF guys to drop quacknet and move to here, all to no avail so far |
| 01:53.39 | Cairenn | are there actual Blizz folks there? |
| 01:56.13 | Guillotine | in the CSF channel? no |
| 01:57.14 | Guillotine | bleeter: Its been known for QUITE a while that you could use follow without a keypress. afaik, its intended |
| 01:58.04 | bleeter | Cairenn: we've been trying to get them to drop by. Had even used Zoot and Slouken's occasional visit here as a precedent. No banana so far :( |
| 01:58.34 | Cairenn | *nod* |
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| 01:59.20 | Cairenn | well, having Zoot and Slouken in here is *not* a requirement of their job, they are extremely generous of their free time to do so, hence why some of us get so protective of them, when everyone is hassling them |
| 01:59.58 | SinePi | CSF. Comma-Separated Fraggles. |
| 02:00.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow typing fail |
| 02:00.33 | ScytheBlade1 | *coughs |
| 02:00.38 | bleeter | man I totally failed in my Apr 1st email to slouken; due to his work exploding he completely missed the joke that I was asking for my Nin DS back to play the Blizz Molten COre console game |
| 02:01.05 | bleeter | kinda feel bad that I 'hassled' him, I had tried to give him a giggle. I missed by several parsecs. |
| 02:01.24 | SinePi | what'd he respond with? |
| 02:05.12 | Shirik | :( I wiped my archimonde raid because I put the sunwell bombs on the hotbar instead of the tears |
| 02:05.46 | ScytheBlade1 | PROFESSIONAL. |
| 02:05.48 | ScytheBlade1 | :) |
| 02:06.03 | ScytheBlade1 | (I'm also a mage, I cheat_ |
| 02:06.05 | ScytheBlade1 | *) |
| 02:06.21 | bleeter | SinePi: Here's the expurgated version of the email exchange (removed some personal chitchat) http://bleeter.pastey.net/87485 |
| 02:06.33 | SinePi | (which reminds me... Why do I always hear of Slouken when the conversation heads to Blizz coders..? Do they have, like, one coder for the whole game..? Seeing some situations it wouldn't surprise me much, but, well... |
| 02:07.12 | ScytheBlade1 | He's one of the more senior people in terms of coding |
| 02:07.20 | ScytheBlade1 | By... a lot |
| 02:07.26 | bleeter | 'coz he's the senior engineer in charge of game development |
| 02:07.34 | bleeter | ie, the head honcho coder |
| 02:08.15 | bleeter | he 'started', for want of a better term, in the open source world, so he's always had a fairly open profile. I suspect that plays a lot to it, as well. |
| 02:08.50 | bleeter | (ok, diidnt really start... well.. maybe.. ugh... too old to remember this stuff haha) |
| 02:09.00 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: google his resume ;) |
| 02:09.12 | SinePi | I'd assume a company with millions of customers would have more than one outspoken "insider". |
| 02:09.38 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: I've been following his career since his Mac emulator days |
| 02:09.53 | SinePi | But then again, assuming does everyone knows what. |
| 02:10.09 | Guillotine | SinePi: He's our favoritest pirate |
| 02:10.37 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: so you're his offical fanclub? ;) |
| 02:10.42 | bleeter | Guillotine: he may be a pirate to you, but to me he'll always be Sexy Sambo from the Maelstrom hiscore table ;) |
| 02:11.21 | SinePi | ScytheBlade1: s/fanclub/cheerleader team/ |
| 02:12.09 | bleeter | I suspect anyone who's spent more than 10 mins using any of his ports, or looking at SDL, would be a fan ;) |
| 02:12.26 | Guillotine | bleeter: pfft. You obviously have not seen the picture of Slouken dressed up as a pirate. He will ALWAYS be a pirate |
| 02:12.46 | bleeter | Guillotine: did he look sexy? |
| 02:12.59 | Guillotine | obviously |
| 02:13.17 | bleeter | QED. Sexy Sambo > Pirate |
| 02:13.18 | Guillotine | Actually, I haven't seen that picture around since around a month after release. /me wonders where it went |
| 02:13.20 | bleeter | :P |
| 02:17.05 | bleeter | wow, the 'nightly lagout/crashes' thread on CSF is out to 1439 posts |
| 02:18.01 | bleeter | must be driving Blizz guys crazy trying to nail and fix the cause |
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| 02:59.04 | Seerah | beep you GuildPortal /sigh |
| 02:59.27 | Seerah | hopefully when it comes up after this time it'll be functional again |
| 03:01.40 | dylanm | So is this 5-10 minute thing I see here a lie? |
| 03:02.28 | Shirik | night all |
| 03:08.13 | Seerah | guild portal is up again now |
| 03:08.57 | Seerah | yay - and the edit box for writing posts is correct again :) |
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| 03:36.50 | MentalPower | any C/C++/Visual Studio buffs around? I'm getting a "undeclared identifier" when trying to import a variable declared in assembler |
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| 03:42.58 | MentalPower | nm, I'm an idiot |
| 03:43.31 | MentalPower | _someVar in asm becomes someVar in C/C++ |
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| 03:50.35 | batrick | ugh MentalPower don't say assembler like that ! |
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| 03:50.42 | batrick | assembler assembles assembly! |
| 03:51.05 | MentalPower | asm is shorter tho :P |
| 03:51.19 | Unregistered | help! how do you get to the darkmoon faire in the outlands if you are level 44 |
| 03:51.22 | batrick | that's fine, just don't say things like "I wrote it in assembler" |
| 03:51.30 | batrick | that shit annoys me to no end :P |
| 03:52.00 | bleeter | Unregistered: very carefully |
| 03:52.13 | batrick | ^ lol |
| 03:52.23 | bleeter | Unregistered: actually, all you realy need is a port to shat, a summon to shat, or some other level appropriate folks to queue you for a BG in shat |
| 03:52.54 | Unregistered | tried the dark portal but it said i needed to be a level 58 |
| 03:52.56 | bleeter | Unregistered: the faire's out the southen exit, can't imagine going out that gate would aggro anything |
| 03:53.09 | bleeter | yeah, gotta be 58 to go through the portal, but not to be in outlands |
| 03:53.21 | bleeter | stupid mechanic that should've been removed somewhere near 2.0.10, imo |
| 03:53.35 | MentalPower | batrick: k, in reality I don't know asm yet, just c/p'ed some code to have auto-incrementing build numbers in Visual Studio |
| 03:53.44 | bleeter | in fact |
| 03:53.50 | bleeter | i'm gunna post a Suggestion that they remove it |
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| 03:53.57 | Unregistered | any suggestions on how to get there then? |
| 03:54.18 | batrick | Unregistered: have a mage port you there and pay him to guard you from the wildlife =) |
| 03:54.24 | Unregistered | im sorry if i am in the wrong room for this ! |
| 03:55.09 | Legorol | Unregistered: you can also have a warlock summon you. |
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| 03:55.36 | Unregistered | dumb question #2 - how do i find a mage or a warlock |
| 03:55.47 | batrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:56.11 | Iriel | You do still run the risk of death from the local wildlife |
| 03:56.23 | Iriel | at 44 you are... aromatic... to the local beasts |
| 03:56.31 | ScytheBlade1 | You also run the risk of that mage harassing you endlessly for asking him |
| 03:56.34 | ScytheBlade1 | (And I say that as a mage) |
| 03:56.40 | Unregistered | so is there any point in going to the faire? |
| 03:56.45 | batrick | not if you pay well :) |
| 03:56.56 | ScytheBlade1 | batrick: 100g kthx |
| 03:57.06 | Iriel | The faire is fun, but you may be better off wiating for it to be more local |
| 03:57.06 | batrick | lol |
| 03:57.12 | batrick | ScytheBlade1: I'd port myself :P |
| 03:57.15 | Iriel | Mind you, you can set your home to shattrath |
| 03:57.18 | Iriel | which is always good |
| 03:57.23 | ScytheBlade1 | batrick: for 100g? Sounds like a winning plan to me |
| 03:57.43 | Iriel | but that has nothing to do with the faire, and everything to do with shattrath |
| 03:57.46 | batrick | i'm a mage too is what i'm sayin |
| 03:57.52 | Legorol | My level 1 bank alts are stationed in Shatt |
| 03:58.25 | Unregistered | thank you ! one other question - waht does lvel ?? mean? |
| 03:58.38 | ScytheBlade1 | It means that the mob is more than 9 (10?) levels above you |
| 03:58.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Or you're targeting a raid boss of sorts |
| 03:58.58 | MentalPower | Unregistered: also note that you need to have the expansion to go to outland, but I'm guessing you already have it |
| 03:59.25 | Unregistered | thank you !!! i have been trying to figure out the ?? thing forever |
| 03:59.35 | Unregistered | i think ill wait on the faire |
| 03:59.45 | ScytheBlade1 | In pretty much every single case where you see a ?? mob |
| 03:59.52 | ScytheBlade1 | It means you are seconds away from death |
| 04:00.22 | Unregistered | waht about a ?? player |
| 04:00.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Then the play is simply that much higher than you |
| 04:00.47 | Unregistered | higher than a 70? |
| 04:01.01 | Iriel | if you're 44 then they're 54 or higher |
| 04:01.07 | Unregistered | ive seen levels up to 70 and then also the ?? |
| 04:01.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Same as the mob scale |
| 04:01.20 | ScytheBlade1 | You'll only see ?? on a player of the opposite faction |
| 04:01.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Not the same faction |
| 04:01.54 | Unregistered | cool - thanks ! |
| 04:02.35 | art3mis | scythe |
| 04:02.37 | ScytheBlade1 | ? |
| 04:02.42 | art3mis | go buy me a BlueGene/L |
| 04:02.52 | ScytheBlade1 | NO U |
| 04:03.01 | art3mis | if you cant find one i'll settle for a Cray XT4 ;P |
| 04:03.09 | Unregistered | can you train your pet to rise it as a mount? or do you give up your pet to get a mount? |
| 04:03.20 | Unregistered | *ride |
| 04:03.23 | Iriel | Mount and pet are entirely different |
| 04:03.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Your pet simply runs as fast as you do in all situations |
| 04:03.41 | art3mis | am i really that much of a nerd that i'm happy Cray is making super computers again and is back in the top ten |
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| 04:04.42 | Unregistered | so you dont give him up with a mount? |
| 04:05.33 | Iriel | right, you still have your pet (not when ON the mount) |
| 04:05.51 | Unregistered | last question if you see something interesting in mid flight can you dismount? |
| 04:06.08 | Iriel | Not from a taxi, but you can from a mount, mounts are entirely under your control |
| 04:06.44 | Legorol | expect a long fall though if you dismount too high ;-) |
| 04:06.59 | Legorol | art3mis: they are? awesome |
| 04:07.03 | Unregistered | but you can dismount from gryphon |
| 04:07.15 | Legorol | not from the flight path gryphons, no |
| 04:07.16 | Unregistered | and if so = how? |
| 04:07.19 | Legorol | you can dismount from your own |
| 04:07.28 | Unregistered | ok thanks again ! |
| 04:07.41 | Unregistered | questions i can not find answers to anywhere!!! |
| 04:08.05 | Legorol | feel free to ask them here, although this channel isn't exactly for this, there is often nothing much going on and folks are helpful and friendly :) |
| 04:08.20 | Legorol | there are way more offtopic things discussed all the time |
| 04:08.27 | Legorol | in fact, most of the time isn't even spent discussing WoW |
| 04:08.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Speaking of changing the topic |
| 04:08.37 | ScytheBlade1 | During this raid I've recieved four gold spam tells |
| 04:08.50 | ScytheBlade1 | The website in question happens to have a "live chat" function |
| 04:08.55 | ScytheBlade1 | ... I'm totally about to abuse that |
| 04:10.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow. The dailies have really inflated the gold spammers |
| 04:10.19 | ScytheBlade1 | 10k gold for $250 |
| 04:11.17 | Legorol | ScytheBlade1: I'm worried that, due to the increased income of players who eventually sell their account/get hacked by gold sellers, it will eventually come down again. |
| 04:11.30 | Legorol | However, I'll be happy if the inflation of the IRL market > inflation of WoW market due to the dailies |
| 04:11.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Err I said that wrong |
| 04:11.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Gold is _dirt cheap_ now |
| 04:13.45 | art3mis | Legorol: yeah they're in the top teen at 85tflops as of oct 2007 |
| 04:13.52 | art3mis | but Cray is the god of super computers |
| 04:14.16 | art3mis | i expect them to do a GREAT showing soon now that the univertisty in brazil is basically giving them dev funding in exchange for the computer |
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| 04:18.12 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 04:18.29 | ScytheBlade1 | This gold selling site has three MSN, three AIM, a live chat, and a phone number listed |
| 04:18.43 | art3mis | http://www.xkcd.com/ <- win |
| 04:18.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Err, rather, "plug in your phone number and we'll tall you" |
| 04:19.14 | ScytheBlade1 | *call |
| 04:20.07 | Legorol | awesome, abuse it! |
| 04:21.02 | art3mis | 1800666DUCK |
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| 04:29.20 | art3mis | oh scythe you missed the fun today |
| 04:29.42 | ScytheBlade1 | ? |
| 04:29.42 | art3mis | i was trolling on my work account and i made peppy leave and cide and cog get all pissy |
| 04:29.47 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 04:29.59 | art3mis | appearantly everyone doesnt understand the /whois command ;P |
| 04:30.19 | art3mis | it was asuming for a while |
| 04:30.26 | art3mis | amusing |
| 04:30.32 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm somewhat surprised you didn't get a ban :P |
| 04:30.54 | art3mis | i had to point out who Saint-N was ;P |
| 04:31.06 | art3mis | and then the easy trolling stopped ;) |
| 04:31.43 | art3mis | im special |
| 04:31.49 | art3mis | something like a nessessary evil |
| 04:31.57 | art3mis | spelt correctly |
| 04:32.11 | art3mis | that and i never troll with personal info ;) |
| 04:32.22 | art3mis | i just usually take devils advocate roles |
| 04:32.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik, using mIRC-for-script-kiddies, actually has a clonebot scanner |
| 04:32.43 | art3mis | im more surprised at how easy it was to drag in people that know better |
| 04:32.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Kinda surprised that he didn't use it |
| 04:32.58 | art3mis | its not a clone |
| 04:33.04 | art3mis | ones from home ones from work ;P |
| 04:33.10 | ScytheBlade1 | ah |
| 04:33.18 | art3mis | they both have the same ident and "real name" though |
| 04:33.32 | art3mis | not to mention im authed on both |
| 04:33.36 | art3mis | for my "domain" |
| 04:33.39 | Legorol | art3mis: uhm, you mean you are DARKguy? |
| 04:33.46 | art3mis | no im Saint-N |
| 04:33.52 | Legorol | ah ok |
| 04:33.57 | art3mis | DARKguy though does know the channels rules of engagement |
| 04:34.09 | art3mis | i explained it too him when cairenn came back |
| 04:34.15 | art3mis | he shuold behave a bit better |
| 04:34.49 | Cairenn | he got a +q instead |
| 04:34.58 | art3mis | wassat? |
| 04:35.00 | ScytheBlade1 | That explains it |
| 04:35.21 | Cairenn | when I muted you |
| 04:35.23 | art3mis | funny thign is my client didnt even notice |
| 04:35.33 | art3mis | this client says :"cannot send to channel |
| 04:35.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah I enjoy trolling people who insist on being pricks who don't listen... on the forums |
| 04:35.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Not people I know here :P |
| 04:35.38 | art3mis | my work client didnt |
| 04:35.56 | art3mis | theres a slight difference in trolling on irc vs forums |
| 04:35.59 | Cairenn | ScytheBlade1: and it's appreciated |
| 04:36.12 | Cairenn | art3mis: not really, it's still annoying as hell when you do it in here |
| 04:36.18 | art3mis | trolling on channels where yuo hang out is more or elss hearing an arguement and arguing the oppisite regardless fo belief |
| 04:36.33 | Cairenn | the fact that you actually managed to make lopeppeppy leave isn't something I'd brag about if I were you |
| 04:36.40 | art3mis | why? |
| 04:36.45 | art3mis | its funny to me |
| 04:37.06 | art3mis | that something on irc would so easily effect someone in that regard |
| 04:37.10 | art3mis | stupid enter key |
| 04:37.43 | Cairenn | art3mis: don't make me slap the +q back on you, I thought we got that sorted out earlier today |
| 04:37.48 | art3mis | and as always if yu want to remove me feel free |
| 04:38.18 | ScytheBlade1 | That's the thing |
| 04:38.25 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm pretty sure she would rather /not/ remove you |
| 04:38.34 | art3mis | +q == remove |
| 04:38.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Same still applies :P |
| 04:38.43 | MentalPower | no +q is mute |
| 04:38.49 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 04:38.53 | art3mis | no |
| 04:38.57 | art3mis | if i get muted i leave |
| 04:38.58 | MentalPower | yes |
| 04:39.03 | Guillotine | ~lart3mis |
| 04:39.04 | purl | ACTION smacks art3mis upside the head just cuz |
| 04:39.05 | art3mis | see how it =='s ;) |
| 04:39.07 | Guillotine | Just be quiet :P |
| 04:39.20 | art3mis | quiet intern! |
| 04:39.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | +q is mute here? |
| 04:39.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | weird |
| 04:39.23 | art3mis | yaeh |
| 04:39.27 | Cairenn | yes it is |
| 04:39.27 | Keias | I always read the chat at the worst times. |
| 04:39.28 | art3mis | appearantly |
| 04:39.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | on other networks it's channnel admin |
| 04:39.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | @_@ |
| 04:39.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | +oq = founder privledges |
| 04:39.42 | Guillotine | art3mis: Join #CSFIRC on quakenet. They like trolling/arguing there :) |
| 04:39.43 | ScytheBlade1 | We had this conversation earlier too ;) |
| 04:39.43 | art3mis | its also that +b#name ? |
| 04:39.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Freenode is different ;) |
| 04:39.53 | ScytheBlade1 | *Very* different |
| 04:40.00 | Guillotine | Geeze, I can just imagine the mistake |
| 04:40.06 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:40.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, different ircd i imagine |
| 04:40.09 | Guillotine | Someone new to quakenet from freenode sets someone +q |
| 04:40.10 | art3mis | laugh thats the funny part for guill |
| 04:40.23 | art3mis | trolling people that know better is way more amusing |
| 04:40.38 | art3mis | its like fishing in a lake with 1 fish |
| 04:40.44 | art3mis | that you catch over and over and over and over |
| 04:41.14 | art3mis | i asked someone a while back on a mud i used to play how he kept falling for the bait |
| 04:41.24 | art3mis | apperantly its a compulsion or something |
| 04:41.43 | art3mis | nooooooooooooooooooo |
| 04:41.47 | art3mis | bukket come back! |
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| 04:41.52 | art3mis | yay! |
| 04:42.25 | art3mis | and lets face it, im the channel asshole ;) |
| 04:42.32 | Guillotine | (Really, you know the best place to troll? #xkcd is amazingly fun to troll. The people there are awesome. And bucket is <3 ) |
| 04:42.39 | art3mis | if its not me itll be someone you dont know ;) |
| 04:42.56 | art3mis | thats opn freenode isnt it |
| 04:43.01 | art3mis | i keep forgetting that |
| 04:43.14 | art3mis | speaking of which go read |
| 04:43.23 | Guillotine | no, think its foonetic |
| 04:43.33 | art3mis | oh |
| 04:43.47 | art3mis | so i need a preoject for work |
| 04:43.55 | art3mis | what would be fun to do |
| 04:44.05 | art3mis | going with the server/networking/hardware stuff |
| 04:44.17 | art3mis | ive made nix email web toaster boxes |
| 04:44.21 | art3mis | im made media machine |
| 04:44.21 | art3mis | s |
| 04:44.50 | art3mis | i could prolly make a wow large flightless bird but that doesnt have the attraction one would think |
| 04:45.31 | art3mis | im actually considering installing server 2k8 and exchange 2k7 communication server on some box just to play with |
| 04:45.45 | art3mis | but im guessing the fun of that would dwindle rapidly once i finished |
| 04:46.09 | art3mis | hrm |
| 04:46.46 | art3mis | didnt today start cuz keias is a girl? |
| 04:46.54 | Keias | wait |
| 04:46.57 | Keias | I'm not a girl |
| 04:47.00 | Keias | I mean |
| 04:47.04 | Keias | yes, I'm a girl teehee |
| 04:47.08 | Keias | Give me money plz :D |
| 04:47.21 | art3mis | you should try that while kneeling |
| 04:47.27 | art3mis | might have beter results ;) |
| 04:47.40 | art3mis | bleeter results ;) |
| 04:47.41 | Keias | I have very strong jaws and very sharp teeth |
| 04:47.42 | Cairenn | ... |
| 04:47.49 | art3mis | you're a canine? |
| 04:47.55 | art3mis | or a piranaha? |
| 04:48.01 | art3mis | NEAT! |
| 04:48.08 | Keias | Both rolled into one |
| 04:48.11 | art3mis | woah |
| 04:48.12 | Keias | Without the furry nonsense of a dog |
| 04:48.23 | art3mis | thats like almost as awesome as a land shark |
| 04:48.35 | Keias | Street Sharks was pretty awesome though |
| 04:48.40 | art3mis | you lose a few cool points cuz you're not a ashark |
| 04:48.51 | art3mis | what was that show about the sharks |
| 04:48.58 | art3mis | that walked and talked like people |
| 04:49.05 | art3mis | and wrestled |
| 04:49.09 | Keias | Yes |
| 04:49.12 | Keias | it was jawsome |
| 04:49.16 | art3mis | ~rimshot |
| 04:49.17 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 04:49.34 | art3mis | welp my koolaid is done |
| 04:49.38 | art3mis | night night kiddies |
| 04:52.04 | art3mis | cept shes all pissy ;P |
| 04:52.14 | art3mis | so bi bi seeya in a month or something |
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| 04:52.43 | Seerah | I was about to /kick |
| 04:53.08 | Cairenn | it's better to just ignore him |
| 04:57.35 | Keias | I've never been called a girl before. This is a surreal experience for me. |
| 05:04.18 | dylanm | Well, that was dumb as hell. |
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| 05:16.14 | clad|sleep | so... someone bought Accelerated VB 2008 from the amazon store for wowprogramming |
| 05:16.16 | clad|sleep | O.o |
| 05:16.30 | dylanm | You get a cut, right? |
| 05:17.27 | clad|sleep | yes, actually |
| 05:17.45 | clad|sleep | amazon's affiliate program is actually really good |
| 05:18.09 | clad|sleep | i'm planning on putting a small ad from amazon on wowprogramming.com just purely because I really like knowing what deals and such they have available |
| 05:18.37 | clad|sleep | and being a tech-ey site.. if we can sustain the cost of hosting via something that's actually positive like tech book rather than having to resort to bullshit advertising, I'll be really happy |
| 05:19.04 | clad|sleep | LOL |
| 05:19.11 | clad|sleep | someone bought a Nintendo Wii wheel |
| 05:19.25 | clad|sleep | and (yay) I helped sell a PiL |
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| 05:37.54 | enum | is it possible to combine source flags? for example for affiliation ( mine, party, raid would be 0x0000007 ) |
| 05:37.54 | enum | I am assuming it can be, but I thought I'd double check |
| 05:39.02 | MentalPower | I believe you can |
| 05:39.11 | MentalPower | ~tias |
| 05:39.12 | purl | Try it and see! |
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| 06:01.25 | enum | MentalPower: so it would appear that you cannot use that as a "broad spectrum"... basically I wanted to check the source flag without having to write out multiple conditionals for hex values |
| 06:01.43 | Iriel | Hang on, what are you trying to do? |
| 06:01.46 | Iriel | Do it in your own code? |
| 06:02.01 | Iriel | if bit.band(sFlg, 7) == 7 then stuff end |
| 06:02.45 | Iriel | or if you want ANY then bit.band(sFlag, 7) ~= 0 then stuff end i |
| 06:03.35 | enum | Iriel: I was trying to include multiple affiliations in a single hex value to check against the srouce flag |
| 06:03.42 | enum | s/srouce/source/ |
| 06:04.07 | Iriel | Yes, but how are you checking? Doing your own math in an addon against COMBAT_LOG_MESSAGE_UNFILTERED? |
| 06:04.57 | enum | using COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED check basically is if srcFlag == bit.band(0x00000517) then foo; end |
| 06:05.07 | enum | then, had a party member attack something |
| 06:05.20 | enum | src flag came back 1298 which is actually 0x0512 |
| 06:05.40 | Iriel | that would check that *ALL* of those flags were set |
| 06:06.13 | Iriel | If you're using a single bit.band & comparison then you can check if *ALL* or *ANY* of a set of flags are set, but nothing more complex than that |
| 06:06.16 | enum | right, in my original thought. I could just throw it in there and magically it would match.. bad thought process on my part |
| 06:06.40 | enum | by *ANY* you mean, 1 at a time right? |
| 06:07.13 | enum | right now i'm doing a single conditional for each scenario |
| 06:07.18 | Iriel | if you do bit.band(sFlg, 0x517) ~= 0 then if any of 0x500, 0x10, 0x01, 0x02, 0x04 are set (or any combination) then it'll be true |
| 06:07.56 | enum | hmm |
| 06:07.58 | enum | thanks |
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| 06:26.20 | enum | nice, so if it matches it returns the actual srcFlag |
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| 06:31.55 | bleeter | oO new WotLK stuff out tonight at midnight? (from gamespy.com) |
| 06:32.26 | nevcairiel | will be later tonight or last midnight? |
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| 06:33.07 | nevcairiel | But blizz mostly releases their own information =p |
| 06:37.20 | Mike-N-Go | I missed my rat, I forgot to pick up the Azerhoth children's week quest =[ |
| 06:38.23 | nevcairiel | over already? |
| 06:38.27 | nevcairiel | i was too lazy to do it |
| 06:38.54 | Guillotine | Hey guys, a preview of the new format for UI coding in Litch King http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=8889 |
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| 06:39.31 | nevcairiel | you wrote a lua brainfuck parser? hah thats amazing |
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| 06:40.01 | nevcairiel | but it overloads the /bf command for me :( |
| 06:40.10 | Guillotine | Yah. The entire default UI in litch king is going to be programmed in BF |
| 06:40.23 | Guillotine | oh, I'll make another name for it if /bf is used |
| 06:41.49 | enum | Guillotine: so no more lua? |
| 06:41.54 | enum | and what is bf? |
| 06:42.10 | Guillotine | enum: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck |
| 06:42.12 | MentalPower | BrainFuck |
| 06:47.32 | enum | you have got to be kidding me |
| 06:47.54 | Tem | no |
| 06:48.03 | Tem | clearly he's 100% serious |
| 06:48.53 | nevcairiel | Guillotine: can you extend it to suppoert http://esolangs.org/wiki/Ook! too? |
| 06:49.00 | Guillotine | VERY easily |
| 06:49.16 | enum | first, I didn't scroll up... second, I didn't really know what's up.. then I read the wiki... call me gullible if you want :P |
| 06:49.55 | Tem | Guillotine, make a proper tokenizer |
| 06:49.58 | Tem | then it's easy |
| 06:50.01 | Guillotine | Yup |
| 06:50.10 | Tem | return token types rather than the actual character |
| 06:50.23 | Guillotine | Then again, that one is so simple, a gsub or two will do it |
| 06:50.40 | Tem | I'd still rather do it right |
| 06:50.43 | nevcairiel | yeah its just substitution of the BF commands |
| 06:51.14 | Tem | s/right/"right"/ |
| 06:51.23 | nevcairiel | Oh well, off to assembler class, laters |
| 06:53.03 | bleeter | Guillotine: lua bf parser for wow? lol! I still want a lolcode parser tho ;) |
| 06:53.38 | enum | so I'm curious as to what the _MASK values are for with the src and dst flags when using COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED |
| 06:54.32 | Guillotine | Read up a bit on the way bits are handled |
| 06:54.41 | Guillotine | hold on, let me see if I can find an easy explanation |
| 06:54.57 | Guillotine | well, that was easy |
| 06:54.58 | Guillotine | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mask_(computing) |
| 06:55.16 | enum | I was just trying to get the info from wowwiki |
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| 06:55.58 | bleeter | oO guild motd bugging folks out still? I thought that was supposedly fixed |
| 06:56.10 | Guillotine | how is it bugging out? |
| 06:56.22 | bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6377688633&sid=1 |
| 06:57.10 | bleeter | (stopping people from entering world style of bugging out) |
| 06:57.48 | Guillotine | Hah |
| 06:57.57 | Elkano | wow, almost half a year since I last released a stable version on wowi/curse... was time to release sth again ^^ |
| 06:57.58 | Guillotine | I told Zoot and Slouken to sanitize that stuff |
| 06:58.05 | Guillotine | but nooo |
| 06:58.24 | Cairenn | Elkano: concept! |
| 06:58.29 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 06:58.59 | bleeter | Guillotine: wonder if it's still there on current 2.4.2 |
| 06:59.28 | Guillotine | If whats still there? |
| 06:59.39 | bleeter | non-sanitized |
| 06:59.44 | Guillotine | The post was just made today. It is |
| 07:00.12 | Elkano | Cairenn, wowace got me lazy like hell ;) |
| 07:00.24 | bleeter | oh, you asked them again today to sanitize? hang on, I'm confused! |
| 07:00.28 | bleeter | ok, more confused than usual lol |
| 07:00.54 | Cairenn | Elkano: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7633-WoWIModUploader.html |
| 07:01.23 | Elkano | I know, but I still prefere doing it by hand from time to time |
| 07:01.45 | Cairenn | just pointing it out to you :) |
| 07:02.49 | Guillotine | bleeter: the thread you linked was today |
| 07:03.07 | bleeter | Guillotine: I was meaning, time to hop on the PTR to see if it's sanitized for 2.4.2 |
| 07:03.11 | Guillotine | oh, I see |
| 07:03.25 | bleeter | once this DoS vector gets 'out', I can see... issues |
| 07:05.09 | Tem | that's pretty hillarious |
| 07:05.14 | Guillotine | bleeter: If you have access to the PTR atm, just type /script GuildSetMOTD("\124cffffffff\124Hitem:5632:0:0:0:0:0:0:0\124h[Cowardly Flight Potion]\124h\124r") and see if it works. Then try adding in a random letter to the name and let me know. |
| 07:05.21 | Tem | but, Guillotine, they _did_ sanitize the GMOTD |
| 07:05.23 | Tem | at least a little |
| 07:05.25 | bleeter | Guillotine: okies |
| 07:05.33 | Guillotine | Tem: how? |
| 07:05.33 | bleeter | Guillotine: I have 10-15 mins, so no probs |
| 07:05.33 | Tem | I can't put icons or hyperlinks in it anymore |
| 07:05.43 | Guillotine | Err, since when? o.O |
| 07:05.45 | Guillotine | hold on, I have to test |
| 07:05.49 | Tem | since after 2.4 |
| 07:05.55 | Tem | like, you could do it at 2.4 |
| 07:05.57 | Guillotine | It was definitely working after 2.4 for me |
| 07:06.00 | Tem | then a couple weeks later you couldn't |
| 07:06.08 | Tem | yeah, I had a spell link in it for a while |
| 07:06.12 | Tem | then one day it was gone |
| 07:06.16 | bleeter | did .1 revert it? |
| 07:06.16 | Tem | and they wouldn't stick anymore |
| 07:06.32 | Tem | I didn't notice if it came with .1 |
| 07:06.36 | Tem | it could have |
| 07:06.40 | Elkano | btw, Cairenn, what happend to Potw? |
| 07:06.51 | Cairenn | click the link, they're there |
| 07:06.57 | Guillotine | hmm, you're right Tem |
| 07:07.07 | Guillotine | then someone must have figured a way around it |
| 07:07.10 | Elkano | oh, just not in the news |
| 07:07.25 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 07:07.27 | Guillotine | Perhaps it is sanitized client-side and they used an external program to bypass those protections? |
| 07:09.10 | bleeter | Guillotine: bah, 'not in a guild' on PTR :P |
| 07:09.16 | Guillotine | ah |
| 07:09.21 | Guillotine | guild notes are still not sanitized |
| 07:09.27 | Guillotine | so it may have been a guild note instead of a MOTD |
| 07:09.31 | bleeter | ahhhh |
| 07:12.20 | bleeter | Guillotine: I posted that info to Aredek behind my edits at the end of the thread. I figure any tech info for GMs that can be passed on, is good info (particularly if it appears to be the first time they've seen the problem ;) |
| 07:12.39 | bleeter | where 'they' = the forum GMs |
| 07:12.48 | Guillotine | bleeter: best not to post it. More people will learn how. Better we get it to Blizz discretely :) |
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| 07:28.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Holy crap @ new wrath info |
| 07:28.51 | ScytheBlade1 | All 10 and 25 man dugeons will be the same dunegon, just scaled and itemized differently |
| 07:28.59 | ScytheBlade1 | So you can complete all of the 25s in a 10 man setting also |
| 07:30.26 | Kalroth | uhm |
| 07:30.31 | Kalroth | where did you read that? |
| 07:30.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Everywhere |
| 07:30.43 | ScytheBlade1 | gamespot.com and the general forums |
| 07:30.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Blue posters are saying "yup" to it |
| 07:32.52 | Kalroth | I can't find anything on gamespot, but it's a shitty site anyways |
| 07:32.57 | Kalroth | might be on 1up I guess |
| 07:33.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Err |
| 07:33.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Gamespy |
| 07:33.17 | ScytheBlade1 | http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/world-of-warcraft-wrath-of-the-lich-king/872185p1.html |
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| 07:36.09 | Keias | ok, I have an odd question that deals with CD Keys |
| 07:36.28 | Keias | My friend bought me BC for xmas, and I registered it in my name under my account |
| 07:36.40 | Keias | Now due to Real Life drama, he's trying to tell Blizz I stole it from him. |
| 07:36.47 | Keias | Now is there any crazy shit that could happen from this? |
| 07:37.31 | ScytheBlade1 | The most blizz could do is refer him to your local police department |
| 07:37.36 | Keias | lol |
| 07:37.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Seriously |
| 07:38.13 | Keias | Thats good new for me then. |
| 07:43.06 | bleeter | Keias: one method blizz uses, if the account owner fields are in dispute, is who has the account activation key. |
| 07:43.28 | Keias | we both have the key |
| 07:43.55 | bleeter | ok, payments made from a CC in your name? |
| 07:44.56 | Tem | "Coldara is a three-wing dungeon ... and a short Onyxia-style raid against Malygos himself. " WHAT? |
| 07:45.00 | Tem | we fight an aspect? |
| 07:45.02 | Tem | unpossible |
| 07:45.12 | bleeter | yeah, generally, though... if the account is in your name, you ahve the key, and you've got proof of identity, there's not much that your 'friend' could do. |
| 07:45.38 | bleeter | Keias: it's quite plausible that at some point you had a falling out, and he decided to steal the key from you. I'm sure Blizz understand this as a possibility. |
| 07:46.09 | MentalPower | Tem: we've known that since LK's announcement |
| 07:46.26 | bleeter | Keias: summary: it's probably going to get painful with having to prove who you are, but by and large you should be in the clear eventually |
| 07:46.27 | Tem | I never heard anything about fighting malygos himself |
| 07:46.32 | Tem | I knew he was pissed at mages and what not |
| 07:46.57 | Tem | but fighting an aspect and not expecting to get the snot kicked out of us seems a bit... far fetched to me |
| 07:47.50 | Tem | even if we are a 25 man "mob" of level 80s, one of the dragon aspects shouldn't have trouble dispersing us |
| 07:48.05 | bleeter | Tem: we might get help from others ;) |
| 07:48.11 | Tem | bah |
| 07:48.12 | Tem | lame |
| 07:48.22 | bleeter | indeed, blizz have done it before, so easy to do again =)) |
| 07:48.25 | Tem | whatever, I'm still excited about it |
| 07:48.34 | bleeter | yeah, I'm excited by what you just said |
| 07:48.38 | bleeter | and a brief glance |
| 07:48.48 | bleeter | i gtg now though, will read later. thanks for the heads up :) |
| 07:49.02 | Tem | but I have to say that as a mage, I'm a little offended that my "patron saint" so to speak is mad at me :( |
| 07:49.15 | MentalPower | I think we would get alextraza's help |
| 07:49.22 | Tem | <3 Alextraza |
| 07:49.40 | Tem | The entire storyline of Vael in BWL was awesome |
| 07:49.59 | Tem | I also think the trinket "Neltharion's Tear" is really nice touch |
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| 07:51.59 | Tem | I need a new keyboard |
| 07:52.05 | Tem | it's missing some keypresses |
| 07:52.28 | Tem | making me appear to typo in really strange ways when I don't notice the letter missin at first |
| 07:52.59 | Tem | oh wow |
| 07:53.09 | Tem | the Death Knight requirement is a lot easier than I expected |
| 07:53.23 | Tem | "All that's required is for the player to have a character reach 55 on one server. After that, the Death Knight option becomes available, though players will be restricted to one per server." |
| 07:54.09 | Corrodias | one per server? interesting |
| 07:55.00 | Tem | I'm going to suggest that players be allowed to have more than one per server if and only if they have one at 80 |
| 07:55.11 | Tem | for each DK at 80, they can make another |
| 07:55.24 | Tem | er no |
| 07:55.37 | Tem | just that DKs at 80 stop counting towards your "one per server" |
| 07:55.49 | Corrodias | or maybe we shouldn't care, and just let people make what they want >_> |
| 07:55.52 | Tem | I know people that have 2-3 characters of the same class on the same server |
| 07:56.33 | Tem | because they like the class a lot and want to play them in different specs without frequent respecs |
| 07:56.44 | Tem | it's most common with the hybrids |
| 07:56.52 | Tem | but I know a mage who has both fire and frost amges |
| 08:00.39 | MentalPower | night all |
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| 08:47.03 | Tem | oh badass |
| 08:47.12 | Tem | it looks like Dragonblight is seperated into 5 subzones |
| 08:47.16 | Tem | one for each Aspect |
| 08:47.34 | Tem | and the environment of each is unique with characteristics of the flight |
| 08:51.01 | batrick | where is this? |
| 08:51.12 | batrick | wotlk? |
| 08:52.56 | Tem | Dragonblight is where dragons go to die |
| 08:53.05 | Tem | it's a zone on Northrend |
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| 08:56.15 | Tem | it's also where they are born, aparently |
| 08:56.46 | widgertick | And I thought people who had their kids in pools were crazy. |
| 08:56.58 | Tem | hah |
| 08:58.58 | Cairenn|afk | night guys |
| 08:59.05 | Keias | see ya Cairenn |
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| 09:08.47 | Tem | widgertick, it's okay, though, because they aren't sentient at that point yet |
| 09:15.04 | Zyuu | http://news.curse.com/details/9634/ from our visit to Blizzard |
| 09:15.17 | Zyuu | 10 new screenies, http://www.curse.com/articles/details/9635/ |
| 09:17.18 | Zyuu | and an interview http://wow.curse.com/articles/details/9636/ |
| 09:17.23 | Zyuu | lots of stuff hehe |
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| 10:08.46 | Fisker- | man Zyuu |
| 10:08.58 | Fisker- | if they don't start improving the paladin soon i might just reroll |
| 10:09.00 | Fisker- | :o |
| 10:09.30 | Fisker- | btw |
| 10:09.52 | Fisker- | i thought pressence would be like an aura |
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| 11:03.25 | fridgid | com |
| 11:05.05 | Kalroth | that was a pretty shitty spammer |
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| 12:18.13 | Zyuu | fisker- |
| 12:18.14 | Zyuu | http://videos.curse.com/details/1537/ |
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| 12:34.09 | Fisker- | nah |
| 12:34.15 | Fisker- | i don't care about the enviroment :P |
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| 13:28.28 | [Liquidor] | Hi everyone :-) |
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| 13:36.04 | Snago | At what point in the login sequence can I expect UnitGUID("player") to behave correctly? |
| 13:37.53 | Kaso | after PEW is usually the best bet |
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| 13:38.16 | Kaso | Some things are hardcoded to work earlier but i wouldnt expect GUID being one |
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| 13:46.09 | Drundia | test it and share your results |
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| 14:41.12 | Unregistered | wow do i get both numbers and % written ión my xp-bar in WoW? with these addons? anyone who can help? |
| 14:41.28 | Unregistered | how* |
| 14:42.34 | Unregistered | anybody here? |
| 14:42.59 | Beladona | you do the % yourself |
| 14:43.05 | Beladona | simple math |
| 14:43.33 | Unregistered | pff |
| 14:44.34 | Beladona | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitXP |
| 14:44.40 | Beladona | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitXPMax |
| 14:45.48 | Beladona | (UnitXP("player") \ UnitXPMax("player")) * 100 = your percent |
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| 14:46.32 | Beladona | lol, you missed it |
| 14:46.43 | Unregistered | ? |
| 14:46.45 | Beladona | (UnitXP("player") \ UnitXPMax("player")) * 100 = your percent |
| 14:49.32 | Beladona | anyone know if they changed the order of the returns in COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED in 2.4.2 |
| 14:49.38 | Beladona | ? |
| 14:49.47 | Drundia | order of what returns? |
| 14:49.58 | Beladona | ... |
| 14:50.06 | Beladona | the event? |
| 14:50.25 | Drundia | but what exactly returns? |
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| 14:50.38 | Beladona | you really want me to list them out? |
| 14:51.06 | Drundia | so all ... in (self, event, ...)? |
| 14:51.08 | Seera1 | event, source, dest, GUIDs, spells, etc |
| 14:51.12 | Beladona | timestamp, event, srcGUID, srcNAME, srcFLAG, destGUID, destNAME, destFLAG |
| 14:51.18 | Kyahx | Odd problem: The Blizzard AddOn Kit won't extract for my on OSX. Claims that "WoW is not installed at this location" but its sitting in the root of my game folder |
| 14:51.21 | Kyahx | any insights? |
| 14:51.39 | Beladona | that was the old order |
| 14:51.44 | Beladona | seems like now it is coming as |
| 14:52.23 | Beladona | event, srcNAME, srcGUID, srcFLAG, destNAME, destGUID, destFLAG |
| 14:52.24 | Drundia | hmm, last time i saw diff for some stuff i thought no changes |
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| 14:57.22 | Seerah | Bela: got disconnected for a sec, but... did you try printing out all of the args? Or is that how you got the possible new order? |
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| 14:58.52 | Beladona | thats how I got the order |
| 14:58.55 | Beladona | what I don't understand |
| 14:59.01 | Beladona | is that when I output to a savedvar |
| 14:59.04 | Beladona | they are in the expected order |
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| 15:08.14 | Seerah | hrmmm |
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| 15:17.42 | Beladona | figured it out |
| 15:25.10 | Industrial | so, haste doesnt affect cooldowns? |
| 15:25.17 | Industrial | isnt that shitty for windfury procs? |
| 15:25.23 | Industrial | and roatations in general |
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| 15:31.50 | Seerah | what was the deal, Beladona? |
| 15:37.10 | Beladona | I was using CallbackHandler and it was returning extra data |
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| 15:44.34 | cncfanatics | hello peeps |
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| 15:44.45 | |pez | hey cncfanatics |
| 15:45.39 | |pez | I wish my damned boyfriend could make up his mind, so we can get on with our lives. -___- |
| 15:46.48 | cncfanatics | whats up |pez ? |
| 15:47.10 | |pez | the boyfriend is unsure about his feelings for me. |
| 15:47.19 | |pez | And has been for a good month, and then some. |
| 15:47.40 | |pez | you can read http://ispinne.livejournal.com (which he doesn't know I know about) |
| 15:47.49 | |pez | and look at the date on the post. |
| 15:48.29 | |pez | And he's still not breaken up with me, nor are things getting much better. |
| 15:48.34 | DARKGuy | he can't decide about his feelings? |
| 15:48.34 | DARKGuy | wtf. |
| 15:48.48 | cncfanatics | thats his journal ? |
| 15:49.19 | |pez | cncfanatics: Well, one of his older things, which he posts in when he feels life is crap. Apparently. |
| 15:49.46 | |pez | So pretty much, yes, that's his journal. |
| 15:50.05 | DARKGuy | 14th april's post says a lot |
| 15:50.18 | |pez | Yes, but nothing has happened since then. |
| 15:50.20 | |pez | at all. |
| 15:50.20 | cncfanatics | I don't understand that kind of people, but well, thats probably just me |
| 15:50.24 | |pez | either direction. |
| 15:50.45 | Seerah | perhaps you should just tell him that you know about his journal |
| 15:51.00 | cncfanatics | that depends if you want him to rush things or not I supose |
| 15:51.03 | |pez | Oh, he's told me he's not sure, so it's not really that. |
| 15:51.16 | |pez | the journal is just a help for me to explain the situation. :P |
| 15:51.52 | cncfanatics | if I was in your situation I'd personaly break it up myself |
| 15:51.56 | Seerah | I've been there |pez - it sucks |
| 15:52.09 | |pez | He has pretty much told me what says in the journal. Except for the "most likely break up" part. |
| 15:52.42 | DARKGuy | e.e I hate when people get like that, 'cept I've had that happen to me with 3 ex-gfs already |
| 15:52.54 | DARKGuy | they're always undecided! |
| 15:52.55 | DARKGuy | :( |
| 15:52.55 | |pez | But it's... like a month and more since he told me. |
| 15:53.03 | DARKGuy | maybe he gave up for that idea |
| 15:53.25 | |pez | What, breaking up? No |
| 15:53.28 | |pez | it's still on his mind. |
| 15:53.48 | DARKGuy | :/ |
| 15:54.00 | DARKGuy | You don't know what you have 'till you lose it |
| 15:54.03 | cncfanatics | |pez: do you both live together ? |
| 15:54.04 | Seerah | What do *you* want? |
| 15:54.28 | |pez | cncfanatics: We do, and have been for the last year or so. |
| 15:54.40 | cncfanatics | then I can understand he doesn't want to rush things |
| 15:54.47 | DARKGuy | yeah |
| 15:55.09 | DARKGuy | if two people in a relationship don't feel comfortable with each other, they should talk it out and find a solution, imho. |
| 15:55.22 | |pez | rushing things is making the decision in a few days, taking his bloody time is a month and then a bit. |
| 15:55.26 | DARKGuy | it's no use waiting a ton, it'll just make it harder |
| 15:56.11 | |pez | When I think about it, it's 1.5 months since he first told me about this. |
| 15:56.18 | cncfanatics | |pez: you should go for talking with him I think |
| 15:56.45 | |pez | I will, when I get home. Which isn't until next week sometime. |
| 15:56.56 | cncfanatics | huh, how come ? |
| 15:57.05 | |pez | Cause I'm off visiting friends? |
| 15:57.25 | cncfanatics | oh |
| 15:57.27 | DARKGuy | the thing isn't if you break up, the thing is, what will you do after? will you keep going on, or kill yourself? my sister kinda had a suicidal attempt yesterday ( and she's only 13 ffs! ) so yeah, it would be a waste to kill yourself for somebody who doesn't appreciate you enough >< |
| 15:57.28 | DARKGuy | ah |
| 15:58.32 | |pez | That is one of the things that annoy me, he's wanting me to do a better job at finding a job and stuff, since MAYBE that will help. |
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| 15:58.45 | |pez | But if there is a breakup, I won't stay in the city anymore at all, most likely. |
| 15:58.59 | DARKGuy | where will you go? |
| 15:59.11 | |pez | Probably closer to other friends and family. |
| 15:59.16 | |pez | I moved 500km because of him. |
| 15:59.26 | DARKGuy | :/ |
| 15:59.42 | |pez | it's on the other side of the freaking country from the rest of my friends and family. |
| 15:59.43 | DARKGuy | we can't decide on your relationship thouh |
| 15:59.45 | DARKGuy | *though |
| 15:59.55 | |pez | I know, it just helps ranting. -__- |
| 16:00.04 | DARKGuy | :P |
| 16:00.08 | |pez | Makes me feel less like curling up in a corner and crying. :P |
| 16:00.15 | DARKGuy | Aww |
| 16:00.18 | cog|work | |pez: you might want to call the Joy Brown radio show... She's probably going to be a lot more helpful than all of us random irc n00bs ;) |
| 16:00.22 | Seerah | So, how is your relationship being on the rocks going to help you find a better job?.... I guess it just comes back to what you want. If you want to fight or give up and move on |
| 16:00.36 | Seerah | I'm not a n00b :P |
| 16:00.39 | Seerah | I'm a nub |
| 16:00.51 | Gnarfoz | synonyms |
| 16:00.55 | cncfanatics | not at all |
| 16:00.56 | cog|work | nub's shorter |
| 16:00.59 | DARKGuy | When you're depressed, it helps A LOT to distract yourself a lot |
| 16:01.05 | DARKGuy | I've been there :P |
| 16:01.13 | |pez | Seerah: I've been unemployed for... a while now, and for a while he had to support me economically. |
| 16:01.21 | |pez | and I don't really have that many friends. |
| 16:01.30 | |pez | so whenever he's at home, he sees me. |
| 16:01.46 | |pez | I'm always there. |
| 16:01.47 | DARKGuy | make a CV and upload it somewhere on the net? there are lots of employment sites on the net that can help you |
| 16:01.57 | Seerah | I've been there, too. Hubby was starting to get sick of me |
| 16:02.11 | Seerah | Because I've been following him everywhere for his work |
| 16:02.26 | |pez | brb, need to go to bathroom |
| 16:02.56 | Seerah | space is good |
| 16:03.08 | cncfanatics | |pez: where do you live and what kind of job do you seek ? |
| 16:03.09 | DARKGuy | really |
| 16:03.39 | Seerah | Reminds me of my explanation to a student yesterday about how rests/silence are good in music |
| 16:05.36 | DARKGuy | my heavy metal songs have no rests |
| 16:05.42 | DARKGuy | >:D |
| 16:07.33 | |pez | cncfanatics: I live in Norway, and I'd like to avoid kiosk/petrolstation/foodserving jobs. |
| 16:08.09 | Seerah | DARKGuy: and sometimes they're just noise :P |
| 16:08.19 | DARKGuy | Seerah: some of them xD |
| 16:08.46 | |pez | The jobs I've applied to, I haven't gotten, obviously. |
| 16:08.56 | Seerah | you always need a balance. Yin and yang. |
| 16:09.50 | |pez | I really have no idea what I'm gonna do when/if there's a breakup between me and the boyfriend... |
| 16:09.56 | |pez | And that fact is getting to me. |
| 16:09.58 | DARKGuy | Seerah: really, it feels good to listen to some calm songs after listening to a few Sonata Arctica / Metallica / Symphony X / Dream Theater CDs :P |
| 16:10.18 | Seerah | go home |
| 16:10.30 | DARKGuy | yup |
| 16:10.31 | zenzelezz | |pez: do you have cause to worry about a break up or is that just a hypothetical situation? |
| 16:10.44 | cog|work | |pez: you need to take action then. You'll always feel imminent doom until you take control of your own future |
| 16:10.51 | |pez | zenzelezz: read up, or go to http://ispinne.livejournal.com |
| 16:10.56 | Seerah | zenz: read up |
| 16:11.10 | zenzelezz | too much random stuff in the conversation |
| 16:12.16 | alestane | |pez: I agree with cog|work ...it's pretty critical at these times to have some sense of where you want to go/what you want to do. Something that's meaningful to you whether your boyfriend is with you or not. |
| 16:12.45 | DARKGuy | yeah, you can't stand there doing nothing |
| 16:12.51 | DARKGuy | thinking won't get you anywhere |
| 16:12.59 | |pez | I know. :\ |
| 16:13.25 | alestane | If it's a place you'd like to have him with you, that gives you incentive to make it work...but even if it doesn't, you'll know where you're going. |
| 16:13.28 | |pez | I've been thinking about starting a real education, but the stuff I want to do is expensive shit. -__-' |
| 16:13.29 | cog|work | |pez: take baby steps... I know my wife tries to solve everything at once and it makes her unable to solve anything in similar situations |
| 16:13.49 | alestane | What makes you feel happy in an energetic way? |
| 16:14.55 | |pez | I.. don't know. |
| 16:15.15 | alestane | That's the really tough part for a lot of people. |
| 16:15.28 | zenzelezz | happy, I remember that word... faintly |
| 16:16.36 | Seerah | |pez: do you enjoy singing/playing an instrument? |
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| 16:17.51 | alestane | Take a moment to imagine that you're getting up...you're well-rested, content and ready to take on the day. You don't have to tell us any of this, but take a moment to imagine whether anyone is there with you and who they are. Imagine how your morning routine goes. Just pay attention to what comes to mind. Do you leave the house? Work at home? What are you going to be spending your day doing? Don't worry about choosing anything...just |
| 16:17.52 | |pez | Seerah: Nope. |
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| 16:18.47 | Seerah | If you were 10, and we asked you what you would like to be when you grew up, what would you say? |
| 16:19.24 | |pez | veterenarian I think it was at the age of 10. :P |
| 16:19.37 | alestane | Does that still appeal to you? |
| 16:19.58 | |pez | Not really. I do enjoy being around animals though. |
| 16:20.28 | DARKGuy | *lp=|pez |
| 16:20.34 | |pez | Hihi |
| 16:20.36 | DARKGuy | ^_^ |
| 16:20.41 | |pez | I want a dog. :P |
| 16:20.48 | DARKGuy | Oh xD |
| 16:20.56 | |pez | Kitties are cute too! |
| 16:21.01 | Seerah | Have you thought about working at a Vet's office? Or animal shelter? or dog park? or anything like that? |
| 16:21.10 | alestane | Pet store. |
| 16:21.16 | |pez | but they climb high and push down things from my cupboard. :P |
| 16:21.20 | alestane | Pet care services. |
| 16:21.22 | DARKGuy | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:21.31 | |pez | Seerah: Applied for vet's office, didn't get areply. |
| 16:21.40 | Seerah | then keep applying |
| 16:21.45 | DARKGuy | their cuteness and cuddling can overcome that |pez :P |
| 16:21.50 | Seerah | well... not hounding the same one... :P |
| 16:21.52 | DARKGuy | yeah |
| 16:22.00 | |pez | animal shelter where we live doesn't really have a shelter anymore. :P |
| 16:22.05 | DARKGuy | I'd bet that might be really fun for you |
| 16:22.36 | |pez | I've worked in a petstore once actually. |
| 16:22.56 | |pez | Lots of scared animals which ran to the otherside of the cages when I cleaned in the room. :\ |
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| 16:23.14 | DARKGuy | :/ |
| 16:23.23 | alestane | See if there are any others...one thing that's important to remember is that if there's something you enjoy and are good at, you should never balk at the lack of a posted opening. Stop by or telephone, let them know about you, ask if there's any way you can help them, maybe offer to volunteer for a while. |
| 16:23.41 | |pez | yeah. |
| 16:24.05 | |pez | I think I sort of want to concentrate on animals and game related stuff, since those are the two only interests I really have at the moment. |
| 16:24.24 | DARKGuy | farm wow gold! |
| 16:24.25 | DARKGuy | I mean |
| 16:24.42 | |pez | And then get my mind straight, it's not been working properly for years. (This is why I lack a education) |
| 16:24.50 | alestane | Sometimes it takes a little while to make doing what you want pay the bills, and you get stuck taking a basic, easy-to-get job or going on the dole for a little while. Don't let that discourage you as long as you're still moving toward your goal. |
| 16:25.17 | |pez | I think AGC will win over WoW in my world. |
| 16:25.26 | |pez | I get a war mammoth! raawr |
| 16:25.31 | DARKGuy | AGC? |
| 16:25.36 | |pez | wait |
| 16:25.37 | alestane | If there's something that gives you real satisfaction, start by doing it whether it pays the bills or not. |
| 16:25.38 | |pez | AOC |
| 16:25.40 | |pez | WEaha :D |
| 16:25.42 | DARKGuy | Ah |
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| 16:27.03 | |pez | alestane: yeah. I was thinking about doing some talks with governmentpeople who help people like me to get jobs, and give me money until it happens. |
| 16:27.10 | |pez | About what sort of stuff I'd like to do. |
| 16:27.16 | |pez | And see if they can help me find something. |
| 16:27.41 | cog|work | don't take handouts |
| 16:28.01 | alestane | I know at this point that basically what I am is a programmer and fantasy game designer. In the meantime, I'm doing freelance audiovisual setup and operation, and other temp work. |
| 16:28.01 | |pez | handouts? |
| 16:28.10 | cog|work | "and give me money until it happens" |
| 16:28.19 | DARKGuy | alestane: you're my idol |
| 16:28.31 | cog|work | trust me, it's a lot less rewarding than you might think |
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| 16:29.05 | |pez | cog|work: I need something to pay the bills. :P |
| 16:29.07 | DARKGuy | alestane: I love programming and designing fantasy games, but my country sucks for the game industry :P |
| 16:29.20 | cog|work | |pez: which will give you more motivation to do the things you need to do :P |
| 16:29.25 | DARKGuy | I don't think they'll give you enough to pay them all |
| 16:29.54 | alestane | I'm introducing myself to game studios in the area, working on mods, self-publishing tabletop RP material online, and working on a couple of game programming projects. |
| 16:30.41 | DARKGuy | Pretty good :O |
| 16:30.45 | |pez | cog|work: I didn't get money until the beginning of this year. And I've been uneployed since august. |
| 16:30.50 | |pez | didn't help with the motivation. :P |
| 16:31.06 | cog|work | yes, but you had a different crutch at the time |
| 16:31.08 | alestane | What do you have to offer the world in general and the people around you in particular? (I promise you there is something.) |
| 16:31.16 | cog|work | (Mr. LiveJournal) |
| 16:31.43 | cog|work | What you need to do is wean yourself off of others |
| 16:31.45 | DARKGuy | alestane: LOVE :D !!!! |
| 16:31.47 | DARKGuy | ... right? |
| 16:32.00 | cog|work | Sounds harsh, but it's true (i've dealt with it myself and with lots of family members) |
| 16:32.07 | alestane | Don't knock it, but there's usually more than that. |
| 16:32.12 | cncfanatics | talking of work, can anyone tell me the differences in job between someone who studied informatica, industrial engineer: computer science and civil engineer: computer science |
| 16:32.17 | |pez | cog|work: and it made me feel like shit, leeching of his money! |
| 16:32.20 | cncfanatics | because I'm puzzled atm |
| 16:32.28 | cog|work | |pez: exactly =) |
| 16:32.56 | cog|work | Haipeppy ;) |
| 16:33.08 | Lopeppeppy | Heyo, darlin'. Happy Friday. |
| 16:34.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Holy crap it's friday |
| 16:34.06 | ScytheBlade1 | .. !!! |
| 16:34.09 | DARKGuy | yeah |
| 16:34.10 | ScytheBlade1 | THAT MEANS I EAT RIBS TONIGHT |
| 16:34.11 | DARKGuy | it's FRIDAY |
| 16:34.12 | ScytheBlade1 | YES |
| 16:34.18 | DARKGuy | ... and I get to instance ALL NIGHT |
| 16:34.19 | DARKGuy | ^^ |
| 16:34.31 | DARKGuy | ribs ftw tho |
| 16:34.33 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm blowing off WoW all together in exchange for ribs |
| 16:34.42 | |pez | Anyway guys, I'll... be back later! |
| 16:34.44 | |pez | thanks for the talk! |
| 16:34.47 | cog|work | |pez: humans do an amazing job staying with what's comfortable regardless of how beneficial it is. You're going to have to make yourself uncomfortable |
| 16:34.47 | DARKGuy | :) |
| 16:34.54 | DARKGuy | feel better will ya |
| 16:34.55 | DARKGuy | :D |
| 16:35.01 | cog|work | *hug* |
| 16:35.23 | DARKGuy | ScytheBlade1: you're a sold out for ribs |
| 16:35.25 | DARKGuy | :P! |
| 16:35.31 | ScytheBlade1 | DARKGuy: sure am |
| 16:35.38 | DARKGuy | hehe |
| 16:35.47 | cog|work | DARKGuy: at least he's not sold out for Ikariam |
| 16:35.49 | cog|work | *cough* |
| 16:35.59 | DARKGuy | XD |
| 16:36.03 | ScytheBlade1 | 9"x3" pork ribs, slow cooked for days on end, six at a time |
| 16:36.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Err not 3" lol |
| 16:36.12 | ScytheBlade1 | But 2" |
| 16:36.16 | alestane | Being willing to stretch yourself and accepting responsibility for moving forward are two things you pretty much have to able to do, and they both take work...but at least, like everything else, the more you make yourself do them, the easier they get. |
| 16:36.32 | DARKGuy | alestane: true |
| 16:36.47 | Lopeppeppy | If they're ever too easy, alestane, we're on the wrong path. |
| 16:37.08 | DARKGuy | I've been broken up three times already (and the girls have been the ones who have broke it up) .... you can say I'm immune now |
| 16:37.09 | DARKGuy | :P |
| 16:37.56 | alestane | And as you do them, you understand how rewarding they are...they're tough, but when you know where you're going and you're working to get there, it's a very satisfying feeling. |
| 16:38.22 | Lopeppeppy | I bet you do a lot of situps, dont' you alestane? *smile* |
| 16:38.54 | alestane | Situps? No, but I badly need to find the money to get back into aikido. |
| 16:39.57 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh. |
| 16:40.28 | Lopeppeppy | Check out Guard Up, they have some excellent awesome classes..... |
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| 16:43.30 | DARKGuy | See, I'm a nice guy after all ^_^ |
| 16:45.04 | Cide | filthy lies |
| 16:45.25 | DARKGuy | lol |
| 16:45.47 | Cide | what're we talking about? :P |
| 16:46.35 | cog|work | srsbsns |
| 16:46.44 | Cide | srsbsns4realz? |
| 16:46.52 | cncfanatics | whats faster, table[#table + 1] = X or tinsert(table, X); ? |
| 16:47.28 | Cide | I would guess the former, myself |
| 16:47.59 | cog|work | cncfanatics: don't bother with the first unless you REALLY need increased performance |
| 16:48.05 | Cide | what cog|work said |
| 16:48.12 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: Someone actually founded a Woburn Aikikai a few blocks away several months ago...I just need the $80/month. |
| 16:48.23 | cog|work | it just becomes an unnecessary hurdle to readability |
| 16:48.45 | cncfanatics | I'm considering it for code thats can run several times a second |
| 16:49.27 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, new place. Nice, alestane. |
| 16:49.32 | cog|work | several? or several thousand? |
| 16:49.49 | cncfanatics | once per frame per active button |
| 16:50.01 | cncfanatics | so, pottentialy 100 times per frame with 100 buttons created |
| 16:50.14 | cog|work | yeah... that'll gain you like a couple milliseconds |
| 16:50.18 | cncfanatics | though I'll end up throttling it to one per second, thats still 100 per sec |
| 16:50.34 | Snago | table[#table + 1] isn't exactly greek.. I see no advantage of using tinsert(table, X) :S |
| 16:50.36 | cog|work | yeah... you're way too worried |
| 16:50.47 | cncfanatics | no function call |
| 16:50.52 | cncfanatics | you spare out a function call prolly |
| 16:51.00 | cncfanatics | as tinsert prolly does exactly that if no position is passed |
| 16:51.07 | Drundia | why don't you just test it now? |
| 16:51.14 | cncfanatics | can do |
| 16:51.15 | cog|work | lua> time() |
| 16:51.15 | lua_bot | cog|work: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'time' (a nil value) |
| 16:51.20 | cog|work | lua> os.time() |
| 16:51.20 | lua_bot | cog|work: 1210351880 |
| 16:51.21 | cncfanatics | lua> os.clock(); |
| 16:51.21 | lua_bot | cncfanatics: 0 |
| 16:51.28 | cncfanatics | ok, its os.time |
| 16:51.31 | Drundia | yes use os.clock() at start and end |
| 16:51.37 | Cide | Snago: it's more convoluted |
| 16:51.40 | cog|work | --> os.clock() |
| 16:51.40 | batbot | cog|work: > 1.18 |
| 16:51.43 | Drundia | it has higher precision |
| 16:52.06 | Snago | Cide: "convoluted" however isn't very readable :P |
| 16:52.13 | Snago | ~dict convoluted |
| 16:52.18 | cncfanatics | lua> local start = os.clock(); local TestTable = {}; for i = 1, 100 do TestTable[#TestTable + 1] = true; end print(os.clock()-start); |
| 16:52.38 | cncfanatics | well, luabot ? :o |
| 16:52.41 | Cide | Snago: think 'ugly' |
| 16:52.44 | Drundia | hmm |
| 16:52.50 | Drundia | i see some weird 3 bytes at start |
| 16:52.54 | Drundia | utf-8 signature? |
| 16:52.56 | cncfanatics | damn pidgin |
| 16:52.58 | Cide | >>> local start = os.clock(); local TestTable = {}; for i = 1, 100 do TestTable[#TestTable + 1] = true; end print(os.clock()-start); |
| 16:52.59 | Cide | Cide: 0 |
| 16:53.06 | cncfanatics | time too low |
| 16:53.15 | Cide | >>> local start = os.clock(); local TestTable = {}; for i = 1, 1e7 do TestTable[#TestTable + 1] = true; end print(os.clock()-start); |
| 16:53.18 | cncfanatics | >>> os.clock(); |
| 16:53.20 | Cide | Cide: maximum execution time (5s) exceeded |
| 16:53.21 | cog|work | cncfanatics: exactly |
| 16:53.21 | Cide | cncfanatics: 0.002 |
| 16:53.28 | Cide | >>> local start = os.clock(); local TestTable = {}; for i = 1, 1e5 do TestTable[#TestTable + 1] = true; end print(os.clock()-start); |
| 16:53.28 | Cide | Cide: 0.085 |
| 16:53.32 | Cide | there |
| 16:53.33 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 16:53.35 | cncfanatics | and with tinsert ? |
| 16:53.46 | Drundia | >>> local start = os.clock(); local TestTable = {}; for i = 1, 1000000 do TestTable[#TestTable + 1] = true; end print(os.clock()-start); |
| 16:53.47 | Cide | Drundia: 0.915 |
| 16:53.52 | Drundia | 0.915 is better |
| 16:53.53 | cncfanatics | its WAY higher with tinsert |
| 16:53.56 | Cide | >>> local start, tinsert = os.clock(), tinsert; local TestTable = {}; for i = 1, 1e5 do tinsert(TestTable, = true); end print(os.clock()-start); |
| 16:54.01 | Cide | >>> local start, tinsert = os.clock(), tinsert; local TestTable = {}; for i = 1, 1e5 do tinsert(TestTable, true); end print(os.clock()-start); |
| 16:54.01 | Cide | Cide: 0.092 |
| 16:54.21 | Drundia | don't see way higher |
| 16:54.25 | cncfanatics | why is it returning all kinds of different times ? |
| 16:54.26 | Drundia | about the same |
| 16:54.30 | Cide | those are just two runs |
| 16:54.32 | cncfanatics | about the same yes, not worth the switch |
| 16:54.43 | Cide | cncfanatics: scientific measuring :P |
| 16:54.48 | Cide | or lack thereof, in this case |
| 16:55.01 | Kaso | basically the same, some minor penality for calling global function but not woth crying about |
| 16:55.07 | cncfanatics | why would using 1000000 instead of 1e5 make the loop take 10 times longer to run ? |
| 16:55.08 | cog|work | >>> http://wowi.pastey.net/87515 |
| 16:55.09 | Cide | cog|work: 0, 0 |
| 16:55.43 | cog|work | >>> http://wowi.pastey.net/87516 |
| 16:55.44 | Cide | cog|work: 0.139, 0.135 |
| 16:56.02 | Drundia | omg this bot is too imba |
| 16:56.06 | cncfanatics | agree |
| 16:56.10 | Drundia | can other do it? |
| 16:56.25 | cncfanatics | what if you take a local tinsert ? |
| 16:56.29 | cncfanatics | so there's no global lookup |
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| 16:56.46 | cncfanatics | >>> http://wowi.pastey.net/87518 |
| 16:56.50 | Cide | cncfanatics: 0.137, 0.132 |
| 16:56.57 | cncfanatics | heh, tinsert taking less long now |
| 16:57.03 | cncfanatics | oh wait, tinsert is first |
| 16:57.04 | cncfanatics | my bad |
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| 16:57.51 | DARKGuy | lmao |
| 16:58.06 | alestane | table.insert should run entirely in C++. |
| 16:58.27 | Drundia | t[#t+1] takes t two times |
| 16:58.30 | cncfanatics | it prolly does, but there's the overhead of a function call and a function lookup |
| 16:59.05 | cncfanatics | not worth the sacrifice in readability though |
| 16:59.17 | Drundia | and how is it less readable really? |
| 16:59.38 | cncfanatics | tinsert looks a bit prettyer imo |
| 16:59.41 | cog|work | Drundia: "tinsert" tells you exactly what's going on even if you don't know what #t means |
| 16:59.43 | Kaso | well tinsert says what it does on the tin, to a beginner t[#t+1] is more cryptic |
| 16:59.59 | Kaso | ^^ great minds think alike! |
| 17:00.07 | Drundia | or tinsert might be unknown to beginner at all |
| 17:00.18 | Kaso | but its easy to guess what it does |
| 17:00.21 | cog|work | Drundia: ind which case t[#t+1] will be even worse... |
| 17:00.22 | Kaso | if you're aware of tables |
| 17:00.27 | cog|work | stupid argument |
| 17:00.29 | Drundia | who knows... |
| 17:00.38 | cog|work | umm... we do? |
| 17:00.42 | Drundia | ok |
| 17:00.56 | Drundia | i pledge myself to all-knowing You |
| 17:00.58 | Drundia | :) |
| 17:01.38 | Drundia | I have to agree that "#" is a weird thing |
| 17:01.38 | dylanm | I mean you shouldn't stop using # because a novice will have to look something up. What is this argument about again? |
| 17:01.54 | cncfanatics | its not like fb code is understandable to beginnes anyway |
| 17:02.01 | cncfanatics | s/beginnes/beginners/ |
| 17:02.40 | Drundia | at least we found out that tinsert isn't that evil when we add new element at the end |
| 17:03.09 | cog|work | "found out"... |
| 17:03.10 | cncfanatics | Its probably faster then t[#t + 1] |
| 17:03.17 | cncfanatics | but the overhead of a function call and a lookup kill that |
| 17:03.31 | mikma | so. rumors about epicflyingmount cost getting chopped by 50%. true or false? |
| 17:03.45 | cog|work | mikma: nil |
| 17:03.48 | Drundia | isn't that rumor already like 1 year old |
| 17:03.51 | Drundia | ? |
| 17:03.53 | cncfanatics | it is |
| 17:04.05 | cncfanatics | people would ask for a refund if it was true, so its most likely nil as cog|work said |
| 17:04.08 | mikma | everyone says it's coming with 2.4.2... and i laugh at them |
| 17:04.35 | cog|work | Yes... they're going to implement major game mechanics in a bugfix patch... |
| 17:04.47 | cog|work | keep laughing imo :P |
| 17:04.55 | Drundia | but seeing that we have so many dailies, 5k now should be about the same as 1k a year ago |
| 17:05.20 | cncfanatics | you can get 5k in a day |
| 17:05.23 | cncfanatics | if you know how to AH |
| 17:06.09 | Drundia | hehe |
| 17:06.16 | Drundia | AH was always best farming place |
| 17:06.50 | cncfanatics | also the best spending place |
| 17:07.07 | Drundia | but prices are already so high thanks to dailies. everyone ie earning money, but no one grinds stuff to spend that money on. |
| 17:07.18 | Drundia | reminds me ussr... |
| 17:10.46 | IceGuest_7_ | Wow... how to get 5k a day? |
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| 17:11.23 | cncfanatics | JC'ing |
| 17:11.31 | cncfanatics | metagems earn well, so do epic gems |
| 17:11.42 | IceGuest_7_ | they do sell for a lot |
| 17:11.55 | cncfanatics | badges -> gems -> CASH |
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| 17:13.00 | IceGuest_7_ | they sell really well whenever there is an update and there are new equipments |
| 17:13.20 | dylanm | Talk to Xinhuan he gets mad paper. |
| 17:13.48 | cncfanatics | IceGuest_7: I get 200g from a meta that costed me 50g to produce in those cases |
| 17:13.49 | cncfanatics | its lovely |
| 17:13.55 | cncfanatics | new arena season is crazy |
| 17:14.07 | Xinhuan | nah ppl hoarding badges for epic gems now |
| 17:14.07 | IceGuest_7_ | make me wanted to turn jc |
| 17:14.15 | cncfanatics | that too |
| 17:14.29 | IceGuest_7_ | tat has to get from raid |
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| 17:18.20 | Adys | ~seen guillotine |
| 17:18.22 | purl | guillotine <n=Guilloti@cpe-76-167-203-65.socal.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 10h 5m 34s ago, saying: 'bleeter: best not to post it. More people will learn how. Better we get it to Blizz discretely :)'. |
| 17:18.48 | alestane | Gotta go do errands. |
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| 17:19.48 | cog|work | O.o |
| 17:20.03 | cog|work | economic stimulus 4tw |
| 17:21.15 | Valaron|Work | Did you get the stimulus check already? |
| 17:21.20 | cog|work | direct deposit |
| 17:21.21 | Valaron|Work | Or.. auto deposited. |
| 17:22.01 | Valaron|Work | Ooh, I got mine, too! |
| 17:22.10 | cog|work | \o/ |
| 17:22.10 | Valaron|Work | 2 days ago! |
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| 17:39.49 | DARKGuy | o.O |
| 17:39.51 | DARKGuy | wb |pez ^^ |
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| 18:14.16 | foxlit | Oh wow |
| 18:14.30 | foxlit | WoW really does not like semi-transparent textures with non-transparent borders |
| 18:14.46 | Kaso | what happens? |
| 18:15.54 | Lopeppeppy | Ugly, IIRC |
| 18:16.10 | foxlit | Yeah, it gets a bit weird |
| 18:16.52 | foxlit | chunks of the picture that were actually transparent lose their transparency for some reason; it more or less garbles most of it |
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| 18:17.44 | MentalPower | I believe that WoW merges many small textures into a bigger one to lower overhead |
| 18:19.31 | foxlit | MP: doesn't quite explain it |
| 18:19.44 | MentalPower | SS? |
| 18:21.45 | foxlit | perhaps in a bit |
| 18:21.58 | Drundia | WoW does it? |
| 18:21.58 | foxlit | I got rid of it by increasing the texture size |
| 18:22.11 | Drundia | what would that win really? |
| 18:23.15 | foxlit | I'd stop garbling textures. |
| 18:23.15 | foxlit | s/I'/It'/ |
| 18:23.15 | Drundia | and how can such merging screw transparency anyway? in fact how can it be screwed at all? |
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| 18:24.13 | Drundia | so can you show SS? |
| 18:25.59 | foxlit | It'd take work. |
| 18:28.38 | foxlit | http://spirit-dreams.net/box/glow.png |
| 18:29.41 | Kaso | how odd |
| 18:33.29 | Drundia | some size issue? |
| 18:33.39 | Drundia | maybe it's not all that transparent? |
| 18:37.06 | foxlit | The actual texture is shown above. |
| 18:37.16 | foxlit | It seems transparent to me |
| 18:39.23 | foxlit | Though I do need a better PNG editor on windows |
| 18:39.45 | Kaso | macromedia fireworks is the best for pngs imo |
| 18:39.54 | Kaso | well its adobe now but i have old version |
| 18:45.19 | durcyn | foxlit: does paint.net do png? |
| 18:46.43 | DARKGuy | gimp ftw. |
| 18:46.55 | cog|work | png's just a file format... |
| 18:47.19 | cog|work | but yes, Paint.net & Gimp both handle them just fine |
| 18:47.36 | Drundia | gimp gimp gimp. something gnuish? |
| 18:47.49 | foxlit | I've never felt desperate enough to actually attempt to use GIMP with its UI |
| 18:48.09 | cog|work | foxlit: there's a gimp distro that emulates photoshop |
| 18:48.19 | durcyn | gimpshop ^ |
| 18:48.20 | cog|work | gimpshop |
| 18:48.40 | Kaso | it really isnt the same though |
| 18:48.53 | Kaso | i mean its closer than plain gimp |
| 18:49.18 | DARKGuy | same gimp, different naming conventions |
| 18:49.23 | DARKGuy | at least it's free and it does a lot |
| 18:49.36 | DARKGuy | the interface SUCKS compared to PS... but it does the job if you learn how to work with it |
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| 18:52.53 | Industrial | I have an XP install with the Administrator account being used as a user |
| 18:53.00 | Industrial | a new acvcount was made who is also an administrator |
| 18:53.16 | Industrial | cant seem to remove that account although I am logged in as Adminstrator :| |
| 18:57.44 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 18:57.59 | ScytheBlade1 | I must have an amazingly low level character on one of the realms that got playtime compensation |
| 18:58.28 | ScytheBlade1 | As I got credited a day for a realm that has (for the most part) been up 100% of the time |
| 18:59.30 | foxlit | Pixelmator to the rescue |
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| 19:00.47 | stew_a | does anyone know of a good savedvariables php parser? |
| 19:00.51 | foxlit | (problem: wanted to apply gaussian blur to a texture and adjust transparency) |
| 19:01.09 | foxlit | That left me with an image that was more or less invisible against a white/gray grid :( |
| 19:02.08 | Drundia | stew_a, add like $ when line starts with \w, change most of "=" to "=>" and eval() |
| 19:03.25 | stew_a | not entirely sure thats going to work but i'll give it a try thanks |
| 19:04.28 | Drundia | right, also change nils to nulls and -- to // |
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| 19:05.20 | stew_a | { to Array( as well |
| 19:05.42 | Drundia | oh yes |
| 19:06.18 | cog|work | stew_a: depending on what you're doing you may have more luck using Lua itself |
| 19:06.41 | cog|work | then all you need to do is dofile("MyAddon.lua") and all the saved variables will be immediately accessible. |
| 19:07.21 | stew_a | well i'm trying to take a couple of mb of savedvariables from someone else's addon and store it in a mysql database, i found 2 parsers on curse but they couldnt handle it |
| 19:07.27 | Drundia | oh yes, i had one |
| 19:07.39 | Drundia | it was before they changed the way numerical tables are stored |
| 19:08.02 | cog|work | You might try a combination then... |
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| 19:08.17 | cog|work | use Lua to load the file (since there's no chance of a parser error) and then spit out a PHP file from it |
| 19:08.35 | cog|work | You can probably find Lua->MySQL bindings to |
| 19:08.35 | stew_a | good idea |
| 19:08.40 | Kaso | that seems the best plan really |
| 19:08.48 | cog|work | too* |
| 19:09.47 | Drundia | http://wowi.pastey.net/87527-3feo with some evil looks for what used to be chr(128) and chr(255) literally typed... |
| 19:10.36 | Drundia | though it has a bunch of issues, but it was designed for some particular purpose so... |
| 19:11.30 | Drundia | but cog|work talks real stuff tbh |
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| 19:19.40 | Mikk | yes, there's lua bindings for all major DBs |
| 19:22.24 | cladhaire | luasql drives wowprogramming.com |
| 19:22.25 | cladhaire | :P |
| 19:22.26 | cladhaire | wlel |
| 19:22.28 | cladhaire | parts of it |
| 19:23.39 | cncfanatics | wowprogramming.com is in lua ? :o |
| 19:23.45 | cladhaire | all of it, yep |
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| 19:24.11 | cladhaire | luasocket, luaaql, lfs and lpeg are the only real binary modules |
| 19:24.21 | cncfanatics | <3 |
| 19:24.25 | cncfanatics | is it fast ? |
| 19:24.28 | cncfanatics | and would it support heavy load , |
| 19:24.29 | cncfanatics | ? |
| 19:24.31 | cladhaire | i'm benchmarking it now |
| 19:24.35 | cladhaire | as a matter of fact |
| 19:25.10 | DARKGuy | it's pretty fast imo |
| 19:25.14 | cladhaire | my web configuration right now peaks around 45 concurrent requests |
| 19:25.21 | cladhaire | but thats sustained 45 concurrent :P |
| 19:26.32 | Drundia | among all other things lua tables are faster than php arrays |
| 19:26.33 | cncfanatics | supose the site would be under as heavy load as curse, would lua crash ? :p |
| 19:26.49 | cladhaire | no? |
| 19:26.59 | cladhaire | tho i'm not entirely sure _what_ you're asking |
| 19:27.02 | cladhaire | i just know the answer is no |
| 19:27.07 | Kaso | hah |
| 19:27.12 | Kaso | whatever you're asking no! |
| 19:27.17 | cladhaire | i fully expect to get reviewed on slashdot at some point |
| 19:27.22 | cladhaire | and fully expect the site to handle a slashdotting |
| 19:27.26 | cladhaire | reasonable well |
| 19:27.33 | cladhaire | without taking the server down |
| 19:27.45 | nevcairiel | have you ever been slashdoted? |
| 19:27.52 | nevcairiel | people that have, dont talk that way! |
| 19:27.53 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 19:27.59 | cladhaire | a site i was responsible for was, yes |
| 19:28.00 | cladhaire | :P |
| 19:28.16 | DARKGuy | slashdot = unintentional ddos |
| 19:29.00 | DARKGuy | what do you guys think about the AddOn Studio for WoW ? |
| 19:29.08 | nevcairiel | the visual studio thing? |
| 19:29.12 | DARKGuy | yes |
| 19:29.18 | durcyn | utter, complete, total, unforgivable garbage. |
| 19:29.32 | stew_a | its not bad for a Wysiwyg but no substitute for notepad |
| 19:29.46 | Drundia | just use good old notepad :) |
| 19:30.04 | DARKGuy | do you guys think it'll harm the addon community with garbage addonstudio-made code? |
| 19:30.07 | Mikk | shrug. free editor with lua syntax innit |
| 19:30.17 | DARKGuy | notepad++ ftw imho |
| 19:30.22 | Mikk | i'd agree |
| 19:30.26 | nevcairiel | its not too bad for creating XML frames |
| 19:30.30 | nevcairiel | addon studio, i mean |
| 19:30.30 | DARKGuy | really? |
| 19:30.42 | cncfanatics | nothing beats creating frames in lua :p |
| 19:30.54 | nevcairiel | if you have no idea about frames and such |
| 19:31.01 | nevcairiel | addon studio makes it easy for you |
| 19:31.05 | DARKGuy | like me :P |
| 19:31.05 | DARKGuy | cool |
| 19:31.10 | cncfanatics | true, but it won't make you learn it, which is bad |
| 19:31.19 | cncfanatics | if you know nothing about frames you should learn it :p |
| 19:31.23 | DARKGuy | I always thought frames were made in XML.. when I noticed the code in LUA, it made it harder for me =p |
| 19:31.24 | krka | DARKGuy: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon. |
| 19:31.27 | DARKGuy | I was like WTF :( |
| 19:31.34 | DARKGuy | yeah yeah sorry *Lua :P |
| 19:32.30 | cncfanatics | DARKGuy: frames used to be XML only |
| 19:32.37 | cncfanatics | but then blizzard blessed us with CreateFrame |
| 19:32.40 | DARKGuy | cncfanatics: yes, they used to be |
| 19:32.41 | DARKGuy | oh :O |
| 19:32.42 | cncfanatics | and everyone was happy |
| 19:32.48 | DARKGuy | I thought it was an Ace feature |
| 19:33.02 | cncfanatics | Ace doesn't do shit that you can't do without it :p |
| 19:33.08 | DARKGuy | I still don't know how do you handle coordinates, anchoring and such with it |
| 19:33.13 | foxlit | cncfanatics: zomg, blasphemy! |
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| 19:33.21 | foxlit | You should know that WoW is written in Ace! |
| 19:33.26 | cncfanatics | DARKGuy: like you would when you move XML based frames |
| 19:33.27 | DARKGuy | lmao |
| 19:33.29 | cncfanatics | Frame:SetPoint(); |
| 19:33.51 | DARKGuy | cncfanatics: from where do you get that info? I haven't found any Lua wow frames tutorial around :( |
| 19:33.54 | Drundia | krka, was that message automatic? |
| 19:34.04 | DARKGuy | looks like krka is a bot |
| 19:34.05 | foxlit | more than likely |
| 19:34.11 | cncfanatics | DARKGuy: been using that API since it was out |
| 19:34.16 | foxlit | just a throttled macro |
| 19:34.24 | cncfanatics | the only thing blizzard added was CreateFrame |
| 19:34.26 | cncfanatics | all the rest ain't old |
| 19:34.37 | DARKGuy | Ah.. I think I get it now |
| 19:34.40 | cncfanatics | s/ain't/is/ |
| 19:34.45 | Drundia | :CreateTexture and :CreateFontstring are new too |
| 19:35.04 | cncfanatics | all the CreateSomething funcs are new |
| 19:35.06 | cncfanatics | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widget |
| 19:35.13 | cncfanatics | has all the possible things you can do on widgets |
| 19:35.18 | Drundia | "new" |
| 19:35.30 | Drundia | isn't all that correct word |
| 19:35.42 | Drundia | They are all like 2 year old |
| 19:36.02 | cncfanatics | true |
| 19:36.04 | cncfanatics | but in my context |
| 19:36.10 | cncfanatics | they're new to DARKGuy :) |
| 19:36.45 | DARKGuy | yeah, I haven't made much addon development since I started playing wow back in 1.9.2 |
| 19:36.57 | DARKGuy | so this is a new ground for me :P |
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| 19:38.49 | Cide | 1.9 feels like yesterday |
| 19:39.41 | Kaso | <3 the good old days, when you could do like anything automatically |
| 19:39.53 | Kaso | autotravel, fine! casting spells fine! |
| 19:39.55 | zenzelezz | I think I started playing WoW just when 1.8.4 went live |
| 19:40.08 | foxlit | wtb lua bot realms, Kaso? |
| 19:40.24 | Kaso | lua bot realms? |
| 19:40.49 | DARKGuy | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:41.06 | foxlit | submit your autotravel/autocast script for automated play, compete against other scripts, win fabilous nothings :) |
| 19:41.43 | Kaso | hah, that'd be cool, botwars! |
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| 19:42.17 | DARKGuy | bot BGs :P |
| 19:42.24 | Drundia | perfect to test addons! |
| 19:42.31 | Drundia | and even possible updates to secure templates |
| 19:43.30 | foxlit | won't quite work - you need the taint system to test secure templates; you need the version if WoW you're coding against to test addons. |
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| 19:44.13 | DARKGuy | the taint system is overly complicated, I never got around to make a simple CastSpellByName work :( |
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| 19:44.32 | DARKGuy | I needed it for my 1-button DPS warrior |
| 19:44.52 | Guest135 | does anyone know why when you kill certain mobs a head appears in the air above them? |
| 19:45.12 | foxlit | one-button anythings aren't very exciting, though :( |
| 19:45.21 | cncfanatics | CastSpellByName is suposed to never work |
| 19:45.25 | Lopeppeppy | Guest135, what certain mobs? |
| 19:45.25 | cncfanatics | except when called by blizz code |
| 19:45.33 | DARKGuy | what would work in its place then? |
| 19:45.39 | foxlit | secure code, dammit :) |
| 19:45.45 | alestane | A secure button. |
| 19:45.47 | Kaso | Head as in skull? |
| 19:45.48 | foxlit | Lopeppeppy: rogues with cheat death, probably |
| 19:45.48 | DARKGuy | well yeah duh :P |
| 19:45.49 | Guest135 | a grimtotem sharman |
| 19:46.04 | Guest135 | its a head with long dark hair that pops up above him |
| 19:46.09 | cncfanatics | DARKGuy: you'd create a secure button |
| 19:46.14 | alestane | DARKGuy: What do you need to call CastSpellByName() for? |
| 19:46.19 | Lopeppeppy | Probably a specific ability or spell they or you are using? Or a notice from one of your quest addons? |
| 19:46.21 | cncfanatics | and set its attributes (only outside of combat mind you) so it calls CastSpellByName for you |
| 19:46.26 | DARKGuy | but I dunno how to make one alestane, I spent an entire night in the wowwiki site and the example of the 3 functions with weird names |
| 19:46.40 | DARKGuy | cncfanatics: huh, I need it in combat :( |
| 19:46.40 | cncfanatics | :o, want a simple example ? |
| 19:46.44 | cncfanatics | not possible |
| 19:46.46 | cncfanatics | at all |
| 19:46.51 | DARKGuy | sucks D: |
| 19:46.54 | cncfanatics | except for remaps that were declared outside combat |
| 19:47.00 | cncfanatics | and which follow the same limitations as macros have |
| 19:47.07 | cncfanatics | if a macro can't do it, an addon can't either |
| 19:47.19 | DARKGuy | I wanted it so: If MobHealth < 20% then cast Execute, else, Heroic - BUT if rage >= needed for MS, then MS instead. |
| 19:47.30 | MentalPower | nop |
| 19:47.30 | alestane | DARKGuy: Nope, absolutely not. |
| 19:47.33 | MentalPower | not possible |
| 19:47.34 | kergoth | you cant do that |
| 19:47.40 | DARKGuy | ya, I got pretty dissapointed :( |
| 19:47.45 | alestane | That's exactly the kind of thing Blizzard wanted to kill. |
| 19:47.50 | kergoth | thats the sort of thing they implemented this for |
| 19:47.51 | kergoth | yea |
| 19:47.54 | DARKGuy | I wonder why though. |
| 19:48.00 | cncfanatics | you wonder why ? |
| 19:48.03 | kergoth | .. |
| 19:48.05 | Lopeppeppy | Botting? |
| 19:48.05 | cncfanatics | OH LOOK MY SCRIPT CAN KILL KELL'THUZAD |
| 19:48.08 | foxlit | /cast Execute /cast Heroic Strike |
| 19:48.10 | Guest135 | thanks |
| 19:48.12 | foxlit | zomgexploits |
| 19:48.18 | DARKGuy | nah come on |
| 19:48.22 | cncfanatics | I'm serious :po |
| 19:48.23 | DARKGuy | you'd have to keep bashing the button anyways |
| 19:48.25 | alestane | Because it reached the point where your UI killed the boss and you watched. |
| 19:48.29 | cncfanatics | people started developping remote control addons |
| 19:48.32 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. |
| 19:48.34 | Lopeppeppy | It was lame. |
| 19:48.35 | Drundia | omg |
| 19:48.38 | DARKGuy | Ah |
| 19:48.44 | Drundia | script can solo kel'thuzad |
| 19:48.45 | DARKGuy | I didn't meant it to do it automatically XD |
| 19:48.55 | cncfanatics | oh, they didn't either |
| 19:48.57 | foxlit | with all the the respect, hardware interaction killed "you just watched" |
| 19:49.04 | cncfanatics | the only thing the player had to do is push your keyboard |
| 19:49.06 | Drundia | indeed |
| 19:49.10 | Lopeppeppy | So therefore the doorway was closed so it ain't that way anymore. |
| 19:49.12 | cncfanatics | because you needed hardware events |
| 19:49.14 | foxlit | If anything, it made it into "you spammed a button" |
| 19:49.20 | Drundia | but i would find it hard to choose one target out of 40 for decursing |
| 19:49.28 | cncfanatics | so, you rolled your head over the keyboard, and that did the job |
| 19:49.32 | DARKGuy | XD |
| 19:49.36 | foxlit | As for the execute/heroic strike choice, it's entirely possible now |
| 19:49.42 | DARKGuy | really? |
| 19:49.48 | DARKGuy | I'm so needing to do that :| |
| 19:49.55 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:50.00 | Drundia | foxlit, it isn't really |
| 19:50.03 | cncfanatics | wouldn't that do execute if possible and heroic strike if not ? |
| 19:50.16 | Drundia | or is execute failing server-side only? |
| 19:50.29 | cncfanatics | the client checks for enough range and correct hp range |
| 19:50.39 | Drundia | that would do both really... except that execute eats all rage |
| 19:50.39 | cncfanatics | so the heroic strike should succeed if the execute did not |
| 19:50.43 | alestane | It will try to Execute, and try to Heroic Strike. It only works because HS isn't on the global cooldown. |
| 19:50.53 | Drundia | failing /casts prevent further /casts in macro |
| 19:51.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: sorry, I broke. My feet are cold. Socks are going on. |
| 19:51.01 | cncfanatics | oh, lame |
| 19:51.04 | cncfanatics | they limited that too ? :o |
| 19:51.07 | Drundia | yes |
| 19:51.09 | DARKGuy | yeah |
| 19:51.10 | DARKGuy | :( |
| 19:51.15 | Lopeppeppy | Awww, sorry ScytheBlade1. |
| 19:51.26 | Drundia | but you can try castsequence or good secure state header and spam button even faster |
| 19:51.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Normally it'd be pretty warm now, but we've got a massive rainstorm headed our way |
| 19:51.43 | ScytheBlade1 | And it's getting cool very quickly |
| 19:51.59 | kergoth | Drundia: macrosequence lets you do sequences that dont halt on cast fail |
| 19:52.04 | kergoth | cog's addon |
| 19:52.12 | Drundia | omg |
| 19:52.16 | Drundia | really? |
| 19:52.17 | ScytheBlade1 | macrosequence = epic win |
| 19:52.19 | kergoth | yep |
| 19:52.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup. |
| 19:52.24 | Drundia | last time i checked my /clicks failed |
| 19:52.26 | foxlit | It depends on how your spell fails, Drundia |
| 19:52.35 | Drundia | well if it fails client side |
| 19:52.46 | Drundia | client checks are evil |
| 19:53.13 | Drundia | so what do you say? macrosequence? already checking! |
| 19:53.32 | alestane | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:54.02 | DARKGuy | mm right, it isn't GC |
| 19:54.34 | DARKGuy | So I can have 1=execute/heroic and 2=ms? :D |
| 19:55.33 | alestane | But /cast or /use causes the rest of the macro to be resolved as if it had succeeded, including blocking anything else on the same cooldown. |
| 19:56.01 | alestane | But yes, or you could have execute/HS on one and MS + HS on another. |
| 19:57.16 | DARKGuy | that sounds even more 1337 |
| 19:57.24 | DARKGuy | >:) |
| 19:59.19 | DARKGuy | I'll try when I get back home, I wanna kill some horde tonight :D |
| 20:00.40 | cncfanatics | DARKGuy: what server you on ? |
| 20:00.45 | cncfanatics | I'll so rape you with my rogue if I ever see you |
| 20:01.53 | DARKGuy | XD |
| 20:02.44 | DARKGuy | I used to have a char on Archimonde :P now I only play on private 'til WoTLK gets out and lvl up to 80 ^^ |
| 20:03.05 | cncfanatics | mmmm |
| 20:03.09 | cncfanatics | I'm not into privates |
| 20:03.12 | DARKGuy | parents were paying my wow :P |
| 20:03.13 | cncfanatics | and wotlk is quite far away |
| 20:03.19 | DARKGuy | then I got into a big arguement with them and I die |
| 20:03.20 | DARKGuy | :P |
| 20:03.35 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 20:03.36 | DARKGuy | I see it for this year |
| 20:03.42 | cncfanatics | maybe, maybe not :p |
| 20:03.48 | DARKGuy | I'd say yes xD |
| 20:04.18 | DARKGuy | eh, privates aren't that bad, but nothing compares to true wow |
| 20:04.24 | DARKGuy | warriors are too nerfed |
| 20:04.31 | DARKGuy | you can charge an enemy, and fall on the ground |
| 20:04.35 | DARKGuy | to the abyss |
| 20:04.36 | DARKGuy | xD |
| 20:04.43 | DARKGuy | *on=through |
| 20:05.06 | DARKGuy | so I just raid, pvp, and make addons |
| 20:05.07 | DARKGuy | XD |
| 20:05.12 | cncfanatics | I just make addons atm |
| 20:05.14 | cncfanatics | as I can't raid |
| 20:05.20 | DARKGuy | why not? |
| 20:06.40 | cncfanatics | idiot parents |
| 20:07.09 | DARKGuy | gwah |
| 20:07.11 | DARKGuy | always them |
| 20:07.11 | DARKGuy | :( |
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| 20:09.03 | DARKGuy | how can you make addons without wow though ? |
| 20:09.29 | cncfanatics | I can play WoW |
| 20:09.31 | cncfanatics | just not raid |
| 20:09.39 | DARKGuy | that's messed up oO |
| 20:09.40 | Industrial | ~seen Tuller |
| 20:09.46 | purl | tuller <n=muffins@c-76-27-160-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #curseforge, 21h 51m 20s ago, saying: 'yeah, I don't disable those due to tainting reasons'. |
| 20:10.40 | cncfanatics | DARKGuy: yep, it irritates me :p |
| 20:14.06 | Drundia | privates are like 10-man any boss by auto-attacking |
| 20:15.11 | nevcairiel | You really shouldnt be discussing private servers here |
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| 20:17.34 | Cide | nope |
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| 20:17.57 | Guest998 | Hey |
| 20:18.01 | Guest998 | Anyone here? |
| 20:18.01 | Cide | hi guest |
| 20:18.05 | Cide | no |
| 20:18.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope |
| 20:18.07 | Guest998 | Hello :) |
| 20:18.13 | Cide | you should pick a better name |
| 20:18.23 | Guest998 | Okay |
| 20:18.33 | Guest998 | Hummmmmmmm |
| 20:18.37 | durcyn | Yeah, something like /nick Guest999 |
| 20:18.41 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 20:18.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Or not |
| 20:18.49 | Guest998 | ./nick wasn't working :( |
| 20:18.51 | Cide | 1000 is superior to 999 |
| 20:18.57 | Guest999 | Thre |
| 20:19.00 | Guest999 | Much better |
| 20:19.01 | Guest999 | ! |
| 20:19.04 | Cide | clearly. |
| 20:19.18 | Guest999 | I'm in search of a nice chat addon for my wow ui :P |
| 20:19.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Prat is the one that comes to mind. |
| 20:19.40 | Cide | CT_Core |
| 20:19.40 | Guest999 | I'm looking for 2 things in it. |
| 20:19.40 | ScytheBlade1 | There's another one out there, but I've never used it and can't even remember the name |
| 20:19.50 | nevcairiel | Chatter is nice too |
| 20:19.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: LOL |
| 20:19.50 | durcyn | I find antiarc's Chatter to be superior to all other chat addons |
| 20:19.54 | Cide | ScytheBlade1: what? |
| 20:19.55 | ScytheBlade1 | That's it, Chatter |
| 20:19.57 | Guest999 | 1. Timestamp, 2. I want the text box that I type in to pop up above my chat, rather than below. |
| 20:20.02 | Cide | CT_Core |
| 20:20.04 | Cide | does both of those |
| 20:20.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: wait, was that serious? It has been forever since I used it.. |
| 20:20.11 | Cide | and is... lightweight |
| 20:20.16 | Cide | ScytheBlade1: sure. |
| 20:20.19 | Guest999 | I have ct core |
| 20:20.22 | nevcairiel | doesnt CT_Core add like all those other features too? |
| 20:20.30 | Cide | nevcairiel: yep, all 5 other features. on demand. |
| 20:20.36 | Cide | Guest999: so what's the problem? |
| 20:20.50 | Guest999 | Wow |
| 20:20.54 | Guest999 | I had it the whole time |
| 20:20.58 | Guest999 | And didn't even notice what it did. |
| 20:21.04 | Cide | CT_Core is awesome. |
| 20:21.09 | Guest999 | Yup, it is. |
| 20:21.15 | Cide | I'd kiss the developer if I knew him |
| 20:21.47 | nevcairiel | Self-kissing? You do that alot already |
| 20:21.58 | durcyn | i believe the term is masturbation, nev |
| 20:21.59 | Cide | I would if I had a time machine, xkcd style |
| 20:22.05 | Cide | nah, I'm not that agile |
| 20:22.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah so, CT has changed a lot since I've used it, apparently |
| 20:22.48 | Guest999 | Ct is bsically the best thing EVER |
| 20:22.51 | Cide | when did you use it? |
| 20:22.53 | Cide | agreed |
| 20:23.01 | ScytheBlade1 | _long_ time ago |
| 20:23.11 | Cide | pre- or post-2.0? |
| 20:23.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Both |
| 20:23.23 | Guest999 | I have my entire UI setup perfect with Perl + CT mods. |
| 20:23.23 | ScytheBlade1 | I stopped using it around 2.0 |
| 20:23.25 | Cide | CT_Core hasn't changed much at all since 2.0 |
| 20:24.11 | ScytheBlade1 | I just remember it breaking the raid tab in horrible ways, leading my raid leader to believe that blizz had locked it down so you couldn't switch groups in combat anymore |
| 20:24.20 | cncfanatics | how much CPU/mem does hookscript take ? |
| 20:24.20 | Cide | try ctra, nub |
| 20:24.26 | Cide | cncfanatics: stop. |
| 20:24.38 | Cide | it's irrelevant unless you're hooking ActionButton_OnUpdate |
| 20:24.44 | Guest999 | So out of curiosity, this thotbott addon does, what exactly? |
| 20:24.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: that's a good point. I should probably just shut up about now ;) |
| 20:25.05 | Cide | yes |
| 20:25.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Guest999: records data. Lots of it. (last I checked) |
| 20:25.18 | cncfanatics | I'm not Cide :) |
| 20:25.28 | cncfanatics | just WorldFrame's OnClick |
| 20:25.29 | Guest999 | Ah, okay. :) |
| 20:25.36 | Cide | cncfanatics: so stop caring about cpu and memory ffs |
| 20:25.54 | cncfanatics | its a method I dont know, so I rather inform myself :p |
| 20:26.37 | Cide | slightly more than a normal hook, that's all |
| 20:26.56 | cncfanatics | k, tnx :) |
| 20:26.59 | Drundia | WorldFrame doesn't have OnClick |
| 20:27.44 | mikma | is there a cap for Resilience? |
| 20:27.48 | Cide | yes |
| 20:27.57 | mikma | what's the cap then? :) |
| 20:28.01 | Cide | ~10% crit reduction afaik |
| 20:28.07 | mikma | thank you :) |
| 20:28.14 | Cide | may be slightly off |
| 20:28.58 | Guest999 | So, anyone on here play Gurubashi? ;) |
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| 20:30.42 | Drundia | 25% is cap afaik |
| 20:30.59 | Drundia | and also people say that it's 25% for each, so some components cap two times earlier than other |
| 20:31.19 | foxlit | trig <3 |
| 20:32.14 | Cide | Drundia: the cap is resilience rating-based |
| 20:32.30 | Cide | and as such it's x% crit damage reduction and x/2% crit reduction |
| 20:32.43 | Cide | so if so it's 25% crit damage reduction and 12.5% crit reduction |
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| 20:33.49 | Drundia | i heard that (some tests probably were conducted) that 12.5% crit chance reduction isn't really cap, it can be further stacked and will work |
| 20:34.09 | Drundia | 25% crit damage reduction is a known cap however and same I think was tested for mana drains |
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| 20:34.29 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Resilience |
| 20:34.34 | Cide | mana drain reductions are based off crit chance reduction |
| 20:34.56 | Cide | oh |
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| 20:34.59 | Cide | I'm wrong |
| 20:35.04 | Cide | you're right |
| 20:35.27 | Drundia | "However, there is currently no cap on DoT reduction or critical strike chance reduction." |
| 20:35.38 | Drundia | or it just wasn't observed :) |
| 20:35.38 | Cide | that's what I said |
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| 20:40.16 | foxlit | Can I test if a macro should be grayed out? |
| 20:40.26 | foxlit | Without actually having it as an action somewhere |
| 20:41.04 | cog|work | foxlit: i don't think there's anything turnkey to help with that |
| 20:41.26 | alestane | I believe there's a GetMacroSpell() function (and GetMacroItem())...then you can use the info fo rhtat spell to determine if it's usable. |
| 20:42.08 | Drundia | GetMacroAction()? |
| 20:42.09 | cog|work | yep. you'd have to code all the logic about usability yourself based on those things |
| 20:42.11 | foxlit | If all else fails, I suppose it's matching /cast, /use in macro text, passing it through SecureCmdOptionParse |
| 20:42.45 | Drundia | no, there isn't such :( |
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| 20:57.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow, keylogger threads are much more involved now |
| 20:58.00 | ScytheBlade1 | This one has a "catch all" directory that discards the file you requested, and then feeds you an image relevant to the keylogger you just clicked, one out of a random pool |
| 20:58.34 | ScytheBlade1 | So they make a bunch of "screenshot" links with random names, and every one the user clicks, they get a different (but thread relevant) image |
| 21:01.06 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, even with alt text customized to the screenshot |
| 21:05.12 | foxlit | Anyone wrote anyting to make gxResolution/RestartGx()/Video options dialog painless? |
| 21:06.23 | Polarina | foxlit: gxResolution, RestartGx = function()end, function()end |
| 21:07.34 | foxlit | I don't think that qualifies :) |
| 21:12.14 | foxlit | IsPlayerMoving()? |
| 21:12.23 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:13.27 | foxlit | Want to determine whether to try casting a mount or travel form in combat |
| 21:14.30 | Kaso | wait whats that got to do with sgreen resolution? |
| 21:14.36 | foxlit | They're not quite related |
| 21:14.55 | foxlit | Though it's the same addon I'm working on that caused both questions |
| 21:15.11 | Kaso | ah |
| 21:16.43 | Kaso | rosetta_beta_5.96_windows_x86_64.exe *32 |
| 21:16.50 | Kaso | This line on my task manager confuses me |
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| 21:32.20 | Industrial | when can you get the shield from quel'danas again? exalted? |
| 21:32.23 | Industrial | im only friendly >_> |
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| 21:34.44 | NightHawkTheSane | the epic one? exalted. |
| 21:41.51 | Shirik | So, I'm resetting my password at work today |
| 21:42.00 | Shirik | and you have to go through all the 5 million rules, right? |
| 21:42.15 | Shirik | Actually this was a few days ago but same difference. Anyway... I saw a rule I've never seen before |
| 21:42.29 | Shirik | "Password is too long. Must be no longer than 8 characters." |
| 21:42.36 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 21:42.42 | Shirik | does this give me permission to shoot my IT guys? |
| 21:43.01 | nevcairiel | maybe the idiots at your school kept forgetting longer passwords? |
| 21:43.12 | DARKGuy | rofl |
| 21:43.24 | Shirik | work, but maybe :P |
| 21:43.25 | DARKGuy | that'd be very lamez0r |
| 21:43.28 | Shirik | but I would hope they're intelligent |
| 21:43.39 | Shirik | The errors I received |
| 21:43.47 | Shirik | - Password is too long |
| 21:43.51 | Shirik | - Password is too short |
| 21:43.58 | Shirik | - Password must not contain repeating characters |
| 21:44.04 | Shirik | - Password must not contain a dictionary word |
| 21:44.04 | nevcairiel | too short? |
| 21:44.04 | DARKGuy | Use a human password! |
| 21:44.07 | nevcairiel | must be exactly 8 ? :P |
| 21:44.09 | DARKGuy | ... wtf. |
| 21:44.16 | Shirik | - Password must not contain a dictionary word with the letters rearranged |
| 21:44.21 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 21:44.22 | DARKGuy | that's worse than the rapidshare cats captcha |
| 21:44.29 | Shirik | hm, what else |
| 21:44.47 | Shirik | yeah, it has to be 6-8 characters |
| 21:45.07 | nevcairiel | i just randomly press keys when i generate a new password, more like memorizing the key-clock-order rather then the password itself |
| 21:45.14 | nevcairiel | i probably couldnt write it on a piece of paper |
| 21:45.22 | nevcairiel | clock=click |
| 21:45.34 | Shirik | heh |
| 21:46.03 | nevcairiel | seriously, i wanted to send one of my passwords to some guy in a short text message |
| 21:46.12 | nevcairiel | and phone keyboards are not pc keyboards |
| 21:46.16 | nevcairiel | i couldnt remember the last char |
| 21:46.24 | Shirik | lol |
| 21:46.28 | DARKGuy | omg xD |
| 21:46.36 | nevcairiel | give me a keyboard, no problem :P |
| 21:46.47 | Shirik | My passwords are not words, but at least they have meaning :P |
| 21:46.59 | DARKGuy | iddqd ? |
| 21:47.01 | Shirik | Though according to psync it has a word in it |
| 21:47.19 | Shirik | I think it caught the "plus" in there, which is actually an accident |
| 21:48.46 | foxlit | http://wowi.pastey.net/87535 |
| 21:48.59 | foxlit | I wonder if there's a better way |
| 21:49.59 | Drundia | foxlit, you can also hook metatable so that otherframe.Show(ShapeshiftBarFrame) doesn't work! |
| 21:50.12 | Drundia | that's even more evil :D |
| 21:51.07 | Shirik | lol foxlit, |
| 21:51.10 | Shirik | I love that comment |
| 21:51.20 | Shirik | shouldn't OnShow be enough though? |
| 21:51.43 | Drundia | i guess function() end; runs faster |
| 21:52.04 | Shirik | worth it? |
| 21:52.22 | foxlit | It's very likely to be protected |
| 21:52.33 | Drundia | depends on how evil we are |
| 21:52.38 | foxlit | so :Hide() on OnShow might not do things |
| 21:53.08 | Drundia | i think Hide() in OnShow works fine |
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| 21:56.31 | foxlit | Suppose something makes you show the frame while in combat |
| 21:56.47 | foxlit | Shapeshift frame contains the shapeshift buttons |
| 21:56.54 | foxlit | Shapeshift buttons use abilities, so hence are protected |
| 21:57.14 | Drundia | yes you are right |
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| 21:57.46 | Drundia | but do we need OnShow then? |
| 21:57.54 | foxlit | It depends :) |
| 21:58.39 | foxlit | I withdraw my objection now that I took a second look at that code |
| 21:58.44 | foxlit | It might actually be secure |
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| 21:59.24 | Drundia | SetScript done by insecure code taints execution of that SetScript I think |
| 22:00.09 | MentalPower | that is true |
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| 22:02.36 | Drundia | Of course in pure theory there could be exception since OnShow itself can only be triggered in secure way. |
| 22:03.02 | Drundia | thogh I doubt it |
| 22:05.02 | MentalPower | in combat on a secure frame, that is true |
| 22:05.25 | MentalPower | talk like Yoda, I do :P |
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| 22:17.20 | Drundia | Am I the only one getting dancing letters in fontstrings with embedded textures? |
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| 22:19.55 | cog|work | Drundia: i had some weird glitches like that on the PTR |
| 22:20.09 | cog|work | Maybe try one of the lower UIFaster settings? |
| 22:20.16 | cog|work | /console uifaster 2 |
| 22:20.21 | cog|work | or 0 |
| 22:23.16 | Drundia | do i need to reload something after? |
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| 22:29.45 | Drundia | that doesn't seem to help :( |
| 22:30.00 | Drundia | and from what i noticed happens mostly if texture is higher than certain value |
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| 22:30.38 | cog|work | probably best to post on the bug reports forum then |
| 22:31.16 | Drundia | only you lucky guys from beyond ocean got one :( |
| 22:32.10 | cog|work | if you write something up i'll post it for you |
| 22:32.20 | cog|work | link to SS would help too i'm sure |
| 22:32.33 | cog|work | (system specs, gpu, etc.) |
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| 22:39.02 | foxlit | http://forums.wow-europe.com/board.html?forumId=11079&sid=1 unified EU forum, I think |
| 22:40.23 | Drundia | so it seems to start at height of 20 |
| 22:40.49 | Drundia | and has something to do with ui scale |
| 22:44.33 | Drundia | forget about ui scale it's pretty much effective font size that matters. |
| 22:44.39 | Drundia | time to prepare some post and screenshots |
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| 23:25.23 | Sixen | foxlit: Nope, there's a tech support for all EU regions. |
| 23:25.59 | foxlit | yeah, but I'm contending that in the absence of bug report / mac tech support forums, those issues should go there |
| 23:27.25 | foxlit | At least technical issues with the client - world issues are probably GM material |
| 23:31.22 | Sixen | Ah |
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